| 00:00.06 | gravity | Who doesn't remember that song? |
| 00:00.08 | thingfish | two hits, then back to obscurity - but they were a good couple of songs. |
| 00:00.12 | abrotman | thingfish: yes .. remember the song .. remember all the lyrics .. no |
| 00:00.21 | thingfish | gravity: younger types. |
| 00:00.29 | gravity | thingfish: Retro is in man |
| 00:00.32 | abrotman | thingfish: i'm older that you! |
| 00:00.34 | abrotman | than you |
| 00:00.40 | Kovecses | i remember that song from the movie the wedding singer |
| 00:00.41 | thingfish | well I don't remember the lyrics either - just the hair! |
| 00:00.42 | simonrvn | people who weren't even born yet |
| 00:00.47 | abrotman | i'm like .. 67 |
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| 00:00.50 | thingfish | abrotman: I'm 48. |
| 00:00.54 | gravity | 67thousand! |
| 00:00.57 | gnufan | blipp: regards wireless -- I think you could increase bandwidth with two wireless links, if you use separate channels... |
| 00:00.57 | simonrvn | i'm 122 |
| 00:01.02 | abrotman | in dog years! |
| 00:01.05 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:01.15 | beardy | blakkino: Stop /msg:ing me, it's considered very rude to /msg someone without asking, and the answer if you can do it is No. |
| 00:01.22 | dvs | !smack simonrvn |
| 00:01.37 | simonrvn | !mansmite dvs |
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| 00:01.54 | simonrvn | !tell roo9 -about root |
| 00:01.57 | beardy | !tell root__ -about root__ |
| 00:01.58 | simonrvn | ... |
| 00:02.03 | beardy | bah.. |
| 00:02.09 | simonrvn | fucking x-chat completion ... |
| 00:02.10 | blakkino | beardy, i know some people consider this rude.. still i'm not one of these |
| 00:02.11 | beardy | !tell root__ -about root |
| 00:02.18 | simonrvn | roo9: sorry |
| 00:02.24 | Ronin | blakkino: but we are :) |
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| 00:02.37 | blakkino | sad :) |
| 00:02.42 | blakkino | anyway |
| 00:03.04 | simonrvn | blakkino: dealing with people means having to deal with them respectfully |
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| 00:03.22 | Ronin | or trying to at least :) |
| 00:03.44 | assfadf | what tcl do i need to compile? |
| 00:03.55 | thingfish | simonrvn: those were excellent guidelines you showed me. |
| 00:03.58 | blakkino | simonrvn, don't know the exact meaning of that beautifull word.. (respectfully) |
| 00:04.13 | simonrvn | thingfish: i try to live by them |
| 00:04.19 | blakkino | if you can explain me (in query) i'm more than happy ;) |
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| 00:04.28 | simonrvn | sec |
| 00:04.28 | chealer | blakkino: $ apropos initrd |
| 00:04.33 | UncleSkunk | so if I put a cd in.. where would I find the cd ? I need to get a file (php.ini) from it |
| 00:04.45 | assfadf | what tcl do i need to eggdrop, etc, all that stuff? |
| 00:04.49 | beardy | blakkino: There would be chaos if everyone that asks a question would msg the ones that answer. I didn't mean to offend you, but that's the way it works here, would be (more) chaos otherwise. |
| 00:04.49 | Kovecses | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:04.50 | thingfish | simonrvn: may you succeed in that. |
| 00:05.09 | abrotman | Kovecses: compared to what? the insane asylum ? |
| 00:05.12 | liable | Kovecses: never! |
| 00:05.15 | Kovecses | lol |
| 00:05.16 | thingfish | it does, doesn't it? soon martha stewart would feel comfortable here. :) |
| 00:05.27 | simonrvn | http://simonraven.nuit.ca/bin/view/Know/SevenTeachings # thingfish: i moved it |
| 00:05.36 | thingfish | thanks, simonrvn |
| 00:05.37 | simonrvn | thingfish: thanks |
| 00:05.39 | blakkino | beardy, mm.. basically i'm not interested in that.. i have to fix this initrd |
| 00:06.04 | blakkino | (not interesting in the discussion.. not in respecting/violating your rules) |
| 00:06.05 | beardy | blakkino: Not interested in behaving according to the rules? Bye then. |
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| 00:06.11 | UncleSkunk | apt-get php5.ini |
| 00:06.17 | simonrvn | install |
| 00:06.23 | simonrvn | php5 |
| 00:06.27 | UncleSkunk | lol oops |
| 00:06.33 | blakkino | my poor eng.. |
| 00:06.35 | simonrvn | doesn't work the way you think |
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| 00:06.35 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@cpe-72-129-22-138.socal.res.rr.com] by dondelelcaro |
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| 00:06.54 | thingfish | gosh, I wish I had a box of chocolates for dondelelcaro. |
| 00:07.04 | abrotman | thingfish: yay fedex? |
| 00:07.05 | UncleSkunk | well I need to get the php.ini file I put her on a cd but I dunno how to get it from there |
| 00:07.08 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:07.08 | blakkino | <blakkino> not interesting in the discussion.. not interested in not respecting/violating your rules <- fixed.. |
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| 00:07.50 | Kovecses | any good poker linux apps? or sites? |
| 00:08.02 | beardy | blakkino: What kind of initrd is that anyway, if it's encrypted, or requires some passphrase? Is it from a Debian stock kernel that you have installed with apt-get or aptitude? |
| 00:08.04 | abrotman | Kovecses: apt-cache search poker ? |
| 00:08.23 | thingfish | Kovecses: boy, you're goin' down the wrong road. stay away from those games. |
| 00:08.30 | Kovecses | why |
| 00:08.35 | thingfish | poker and blackjack are evil. |
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| 00:08.52 | Kovecses | naw |
| 00:08.57 | beardy | Kovecses: sillypoker ;) |
| 00:09.10 | thingfish | <sigh> |
| 00:09.35 | abrotman | i like blackjack .. too many different kinds of poker to be worth the effort :) |
| 00:09.40 | thingfish | poker among friends, I guess is ok. |
| 00:09.45 | Kovecses | well i like texas hold em |
| 00:09.57 | abrotman | Kovecses: moment |
| 00:10.01 | simonrvn | hint #1: don't keep going when you've won. guaranteed to lose it |
| 00:10.08 | blakkino | beardy. i don't remember the syntax of dpkg for finding the package.. anyway it is easy to suppose that it come from the kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8) |
| 00:10.11 | thingfish | Kovecses: sure, it's fun - but do you win? |
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| 00:10.25 | Kovecses | i win on partypoker all the time |
| 00:10.47 | abrotman | Kovecses: poker2d ? |
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| 00:10.54 | Kovecses | whats that |
| 00:11.04 | blakkino | the "strange" stuff is that on another identical machine everythings works.. the initd content is different (no bad script) |
| 00:11.06 | Kovecses | it needs to be online |
| 00:11.07 | abrotman | apt-cache show poker2d |
| 00:11.10 | thingfish | so go pro, win a ton of money, buy a condo in the bahamas, and invite us all for a big boozefest. |
| 00:11.21 | abrotman | Kovecses: http://happypenguin.org/list?search=texas |
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| 00:12.20 | blakkino | (exactly identical.. the same fstab, crypttab.. the only difference is the installation order of packages, maybe) |
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| 00:18.41 | BillyBob | hey anybody know why when i up my screen res my screen twaks out? or how i should change my display driver? |
| 00:19.11 | beardy | !drxx BillyBob |
| 00:19.11 | dpkg | BillyBob: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:19.31 | beardy | Answer to the second question. ^^^ |
| 00:19.35 | lzhang | is there anywhere I can see an example of a dialplan configuration to take a phone number as input? |
| 00:20.49 | Jiv001 | !cairo jiv001 |
| 00:20.52 | BillyBob | dpkg: thanks i'll give that a shot |
| 00:20.53 | dpkg | BillyBob: de nada |
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| 00:22.13 | assfadf | hey, how come when type "ifconfig" it doesn't show anything, but when i type "man ifconfig", it shows the manual |
| 00:22.16 | assfadf | ? |
| 00:22.22 | blakkino | mm |
| 00:22.23 | blakkino | bye |
| 00:22.23 | blakkino | :> |
| 00:22.30 | unstable | !ifconfig |
| 00:22.30 | dpkg | [ifconfig] the tool you use in Debian to setup how your machine decides how to process "if" conditional statements. if you type `ifconfig all-true` everything will be true. someone also told me it has to viewing and configuring your networking interfaces... |
| 00:22.32 | Xenguy | assfadf: hrm do you need to be root? |
| 00:22.33 | dondelelcaro | assfadf: ifconfig is the command; if you don't have any interfaces up, it won't show anything. |
| 00:22.36 | blakkino | anyway it seem a bug of the kernel-image package |
| 00:22.38 | beardy | assfadf: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 00:22.47 | blakkino | maybe i'l post a bug report.. if i find the exact bug. |
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| 00:22.54 | beardy | assfadf: and the manual "comes up" because that is what it should do :) |
| 00:22.58 | assfadf | oh yeah |
| 00:23.05 | assfadf | i always forgot about the /sbin |
| 00:23.20 | assfadf | what is /sbin anyway? |
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| 00:23.40 | Xenguy | assfadf: a directory of 'system binaries' |
| 00:23.42 | simonrvn | a directory |
| 00:24.08 | beardy | assfadf: The directory in which ifconfig resides. "Superuser-binary storage" may perhaps be an explanation. Run 'man hier'. |
| 00:24.10 | grover | uh oh, gallery2 update in testing isn't working with my passwd... |
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| 00:24.57 | assfadf | !gentoo |
| 00:24.57 | dpkg | [gentoo] a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 00:24.59 | assfadf | lol |
| 00:25.09 | assfadf | what was the joke about gentoo again |
| 00:25.32 | simonrvn | see funroll-loops.org |
| 00:25.35 | abrotman | funrollloops? |
| 00:25.51 | Xenguy | heh |
| 00:25.58 | simonrvn | -funroll-loops ;p |
| 00:26.03 | assfadf | oh yeah |
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| 00:26.18 | simonrvn | fun-loops |
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| 00:32.40 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:32.40 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 00:32.56 | cipo | hello? im upgrading from sarge to etch. how to assign nic 0 to eth0 and nic 1 to eth1? (sorry, poor english) |
| 00:34.13 | abrotman | ifrename is one way .. another is to use module rules and make sure they get loaded in the order you want |
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| 00:36.25 | cipo | hmm |
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| 00:37.22 | assfadf | is there any way to synchronize my time? |
| 00:37.23 | cipo | im trying to rename the device in udev: KERNEL="eth*", SYSFS{address}="my mac address", NAME="eth0" -- still no luck |
| 00:37.30 | abrotman | !tell assfadf about ntp |
| 00:37.30 | dvs | assfadf: ntpdate |
| 00:37.37 | assfadf | i tried that |
| 00:37.41 | abrotman | bah .. udev .. |
| 00:37.51 | assfadf | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.57 | assfadf | i always get that error |
| 00:38.02 | dvs | assfadf: Then pick a good server |
| 00:38.18 | gnufan | assfadf: fix your firewall ;) "ntpdate clock.redhat.com" |
| 00:38.32 | abrotman | no .. use pool.ntp.org |
| 00:38.45 | metaperl | what nice programs are there for composing music on linux besides Rosegarden? |
| 00:39.05 | abrotman | we go through this once a week .. i should make a factoid :) |
| 00:39.19 | assfadf | got it |
| 00:39.20 | assfadf | :) |
| 00:39.26 | abrotman | metaperl: compose how ? |
| 00:39.40 | abrotman | !info songwrite sarge |
| 00:39.44 | metaperl | like build midi tracks . all software |
| 00:39.46 | dpkg | songwrite: (guitar tablature editor and player), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.12b-4 (sarge), Packaged size: 280 kB, Installed size: 792 kB |
| 00:39.48 | metaperl | like Cakewalk or something |
| 00:39.52 | assfadf | wtf? its an hour late |
| 00:39.54 | gnufan | abrotman: I think if it isn't working -- use redhat clock -- use the pool when it is. I know the pool should always be working... but... |
| 00:39.59 | rorr | metaperl: ardour... |
| 00:40.11 | rorr | and beast |
| 00:40.12 | abrotman | gnufan: i've never had it fail |
| 00:40.27 | abrotman | metaperl: you want music editing or composing(sheet music etc) |
| 00:40.29 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:40.37 | gnufan | assfadf: did you say your timezone was wrong ? ;) |
| 00:40.42 | assfadf | no |
| 00:40.52 | assfadf | im EST, which is America/Chicago |
| 00:40.56 | abrotman | hahaha |
| 00:40.57 | metaperl | abrotman: something like a graphical front end to csound or something |
| 00:41.03 | abrotman | chicago is NOT EST or EDT |
| 00:41.06 | metaperl | something close to Rosegarden but easier to use |
| 00:41.13 | dvs | assfadf: no America/New York ;-) |
| 00:41.15 | metaperl | like Fruityloops if you've heard of that |
| 00:41.16 | simonrvn | pool.n.o is always up |
| 00:41.39 | simonrvn | they're ntpd servers on rotation ... |
| 00:41.44 | assfadf | dvs, got it |
| 00:41.45 | assfadf | :) |
| 00:41.50 | simonrvn | ntp* |
| 00:42.37 | Azar | :) there should be a command like "whoami" only to be "whereami" |
| 00:42.40 | rorr | metaperl: no software for real sound and music "production" is "easy" under linux |
| 00:42.51 | assfadf | Azar, pwd ? |
| 00:42.56 | abrotman | metaperl: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/08/04/2014227&tid=75 |
| 00:42.59 | metaperl | abrotman: I think Beast is the closest thing to what I am looking for |
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| 00:43.16 | Azar | assfadf: no the geographical location one sets when installs |
| 00:43.48 | Azar | ..this way you never forget you know.. |
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| 00:44.06 | metaperl | abrotman: and rorr: http://beast.gtk.org/ |
| 00:44.25 | rorr | metaperl: as I told you upper yep/ |
| 00:44.38 | abrotman | metaperl: i've seen beast |
| 00:44.44 | abrotman | metaperl: i wish i could get wired compiled |
| 00:44.52 | rorr | :-) |
| 00:45.00 | metaperl | abrotman: what is wired? |
| 00:45.08 | rorr | :-D |
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| 00:45.55 | RobBarton | I need to create my debian box into a printserv. The printer is an Epson Stylus C86 (which I know is supported). Only problem is the printserv doesn't have X. |
| 00:45.57 | paolob | Hi guys! After today's testing dist-upgrade, OOo crashes on starting: segmentation fault. Any ¡dea of the reason? thank you! |
| 00:46.12 | rorr | metaperl: you 'll get abrotman'joke when first using beast.. |
| 00:46.20 | abrotman | metaperl: i think it's at http://wired.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:46.31 | abrotman | rorr: joke ? |
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| 00:47.11 | abrotman | metaperl: it's a mixing app |
| 00:47.28 | metaperl | oh is that all? |
| 00:47.31 | rorr | abrotman: Oh I thought you were talking about beast and its "wires" |
| 00:47.32 | abrotman | i think ... |
| 00:47.36 | metaperl | no creating melodies? |
| 00:47.39 | abrotman | rorr: i thought that's what you were getting at |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | metaperl: http://wired.sourceforge.net/img/screenshots/wired_shot-03.jpg |
| 00:47.55 | RobBarton | So, printconf is out. Any other suggestions? |
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| 00:48.59 | rorr | metaperl: ardour is much more advanced than wired I guess |
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| 00:49.52 | abrotman | rorr: i don't think they do the same thing at all |
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| 00:50.54 | rorr | abrotman: mix, post-prod and midi for ardour, on jackd for real-time |
| 00:51.16 | abrotman | rorr: i was wrong .. sorry .. i got it confused with rosegarden :) |
| 00:51.24 | rorr | abrotman: metaperl: fear the pain at http://ardour.org/files/main-screenshot-big.png |
| 00:51.35 | abrotman | rorr: but wired looks way cooler :) |
| 00:52.06 | rorr | abrotman: "cooler" ./.. definitly :-) |
| 00:52.38 | abrotman | metaperl: that newsforge article may help |
| 00:53.22 | rorr | metaperl: and look at demudi's packages, it's a debian for multimedia.. |
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| 00:54.42 | foo | Hmm, I have a system here that has a bad hard drive I think. It's a windows box. I tried mounting it in knoppix and I got a mount: "wrong fs type" ... I am running a badblocks on the drive now. It is making a ton of weird noises. I am trying to recover the data. What's the best way to go about this? I typically grab the data off the driver with knoppix... but if knoppix can't mount it. hmm, any other ideas? I am doing a badblocks right now, looks like it's free |
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| 00:56.32 | bbrazil | foo: first, get a copt of the entire disk |
| 00:56.36 | bbrazil | foo: *copy |
| 00:56.54 | foo | bbrazil: ok, so the badblocks can make this problem worse? |
| 00:56.59 | bbrazil | foo: yes |
| 00:57.21 | bbrazil | foo: make sure you use a tool that can ignore errors (dd can be told to) |
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| 00:59.52 | plasmoduck | how do I make wvdial auto redial? |
| 01:00.01 | abrotman | man pppd probably |
| 01:00.12 | plasmoduck | nah |
| 01:01.28 | abrotman | yeah |
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| 01:02.16 | liable | plasmoduck: man wvdial.conf? |
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| 01:02.37 | Naz_ | hey |
| 01:02.53 | unstable | !pppd |
| 01:02.54 | dpkg | well, pppd is the Point-to-Point Protocol daemon. It is a program, generally for Unix and similar operating systems (e.g., Linux), that serves as interface between software and hardware: transmitting datagrams over serial links, an extensible Link Control Protocol (LCP), and a famillly of Network Control Protocols/Program (NCP). It is also supported through the kernel, generally. Although, pppd provides more advanced functions, e.g., authentication or in |
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| 01:03.08 | liable | plasmoduck: Auto Redial = Yes |
| 01:03.12 | Naz_ | exim is dead so I need to ask this: |
| 01:03.20 | magyar | it might be a retorical question but, if logtail hasnt change in one hour, will logcheck send a report? |
| 01:03.26 | abrotman | plasmoduck: man pppd .. search for persist |
| 01:03.30 | Naz_ | Exim sends to all Email providers except hotmail for some reason |
| 01:03.42 | Naz_ | in the logs it said it completed without any retys |
| 01:03.43 | silverblade | is there a way to make the debian bootup a bit "prettier"? every time i boot up i get loads of text flood past about failing to load stuff, but the system always works fine |
| 01:03.51 | Naz_ | I don't receive it at hotmail though |
| 01:03.58 | Naz_ | can anyone help? |
| 01:04.47 | xaiki | Naz_: maybe hotmail is dropping your mails ? |
| 01:04.55 | foo | Naz_: Junk? |
| 01:05.04 | Naz_ | checked the junk |
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| 01:05.06 | Naz_ | not there |
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| 01:05.19 | Naz_ | I don't know what to do if it drops it |
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| 01:05.39 | Kovecses | does anyone else have problems with java running slow and freezing with firefox in etch? |
| 01:05.42 | liable | silverblade: so find out what the errors are for starters |
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| 01:05.54 | unstable | Naz_: hotmail is horrible. Do you need a gmail invite? |
| 01:06.00 | Naz_ | no no no |
| 01:06.03 | Azar | silverblade: that flood of text is, (for me) very pretty: tells me which modules are loaded and which fail |
| 01:06.05 | Naz_ | this is for my website |
| 01:06.07 | unstable | Naz_: You sure? |
| 01:06.11 | StuckMojo | how can i load my gtk theme now that gnome-theme-manager is gone? |
| 01:06.15 | StuckMojo | in sid |
| 01:06.15 | Naz_ | I have a gamil account :P |
| 01:06.19 | unstable | Naz_: It doesn't matter what it's for...hotmail should never be used. |
| 01:06.25 | Naz_ | I never use hotmail |
| 01:06.32 | pipeline | hotmail has better remote access options |
| 01:06.32 | Kovecses | StuckMojo: i use switch2 |
| 01:06.36 | Naz_ | its my users that sometimes do |
| 01:06.38 | pipeline | and hosted hotmail beats the pants off hosted gmail |
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| 01:07.04 | pipeline | Kovecses: Have you tried downgrading to a java 1.4 ? |
| 01:07.04 | Naz_ | I just gotta get it working |
| 01:07.16 | StuckMojo | Kovecses thx |
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| 01:07.26 | jakk | Q: Anyone know much about forum software? |
| 01:07.39 | pipeline | jakk: I know enough to say that all of the options are equally terrible. |
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| 01:07.49 | debiankid | hello to everybody |
| 01:07.51 | Kovecses | pipeline: no.... ive used 1.5 many times with no problems in firefox... also it works great in konqueror |
| 01:07.53 | pipeline | jakk: If you can afford it, use a hosted forum. (i.e. offload the trouble to someone else) |
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| 01:08.21 | pipeline | Kovecses: Well, since hardly any java applets require something higher than Java 1.1, install an older java alongside java 5 and use that for firefox, perhaps? |
| 01:08.33 | Kovecses | pipeline: AA player? yeah i will try that |
| 01:08.34 | jakk | pupeline: haha, i know, what if i want to get a simple forum that does what it needs to do for non tech-savvy people, i'm willing to pay a bit if need be |
| 01:08.43 | jakk | pipeline: hosted forum? |
| 01:08.51 | Naz_ | anyone? |
| 01:08.55 | pipeline | jakk: There are several companies that will host your forums for you |
| 01:08.55 | Naz_ | I really need this? |
| 01:09.03 | Kovecses | Naz_: whats the prob |
| 01:09.04 | pipeline | jakk: And given how much trouble administering a forum is, that's the best route to go :\ |
| 01:09.11 | Naz_ | I set up Exim |
| 01:09.14 | jakk | pipeline: I have a server and all, it's just choosing the forum software that's the pain :( |
| 01:09.14 | Ronin | Kovecses: they cant sent to hotmail |
| 01:09.25 | Naz_ | and it sends to all online mail places except Hotmail |
| 01:09.32 | Naz_ | I checked the logs |
| 01:09.33 | Exodus3 | anyone know of a Scsi ultra 320 card that has native support with one of the stock kernels? |
| 01:09.36 | pipeline | jakk: Yes, it is a pain. Seriously, if you can afford it, get someone else to host it for you. |
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| 01:09.38 | Naz_ | and It says it was completed |
| 01:09.42 | pipeline | Exodus3: Just about any LSI logic card will be. |
| 01:09.49 | Naz_ | but I've checked everywhere, and get nothing |
| 01:10.00 | jakk | pipeline: any suggestion of software though? Any hosting company in specific? |
| 01:10.01 | jakk | ^_^ |
| 01:10.03 | pipeline | jakk: If you absolutely, positively, must host your own forum, I'd go with punbb. |
| 01:10.21 | Naz_ | can you help? |
| 01:10.26 | pipeline | jakk: punbb has so few features, it's rather less likely to be hacked. Still a pain in the ass, though. |
| 01:10.33 | jakk | pipeline: ^_^ Thanks, do you have any other suggestions, btw I really appreciate the help |
| 01:10.37 | pipeline | jakk: phpbb, invision, and infopop are all common companies that host forums. |
| 01:10.43 | pipeline | jakk: I think you can get a forum for like, 10$ a month |
| 01:10.49 | jakk | pipeline: thansk, kewl |
| 01:10.57 | pipeline | jakk: err, phpbb is not what I was thinking of |
| 01:10.59 | unstable | invision is free(libre)? |
| 01:11.07 | jakk | pipeline: ick phpbb :( |
| 01:11.18 | pipeline | jakk: phpbb is a knockoff of Ubb, which is the company that will host for you. |
| 01:11.35 | pipeline | jakk: At any rate, hosting a forum seriously sucks :( |
| 01:11.43 | jakk | pipeline: I looked into Ubb not to long ago :) but hmmh, true lol |
| 01:11.45 | Exodus3 | pipeline are u sure any lsi logic card will? |
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| 01:11.46 | unstable | phpbb is fine...just get updates on time and you're set. |
| 01:12.00 | jakk | pipeline: I had a friend who hosted a decent sized forum, and yeah it sucks you down |
| 01:12.04 | pipeline | Exodus3: *almost* any LSI logic. |
| 01:12.15 | pipeline | Exodus3: Let's put it this way: Most cards cheap enough for ordinary human beings to afford are going to work fine ootb. |
| 01:12.28 | Naz_ | If anyone can help, I'll be on #hotmailhelp |
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| 01:12.45 | sparr | help? Reading package lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 01:12.54 | Naz_ | It's too off-topic here |
| 01:13.03 | jakk | pipeline: thanks, I'll look into punbb, and also the other one erm... can't remember, but thanks! |
| 01:13.06 | bbrazil | !mmap |
| 01:13.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, dynamic mmap is "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ The release notes tell you to use Aptitude, not apt-get, for Sarge upgrades. see <release notes> |
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| 01:13.10 | plasmoduck | how can I watch wmv files? |
| 01:13.12 | Exodus3 | anyone have an opinion in a raid disk array hp versus promise? |
| 01:13.17 | plasmoduck | xine doesn't support it |
| 01:13.19 | abrotman | !w32codecs |
| 01:13.19 | dpkg | from memory, w32codecs is a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 01:13.42 | pipeline | Exodus3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816118034 should "just work" with no tomfoolery |
| 01:13.42 | plasmoduck | !marillat |
| 01:13.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
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| 01:14.06 | plasmoduck | I need the source for slackware! |
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| 01:14.25 | Kovecses | what source |
| 01:14.27 | liable | eh? |
| 01:14.46 | plasmoduck | for the win32 codecs |
| 01:14.53 | Kovecses | there is a package |
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| 01:15.13 | Kovecses | or grab the dlls from mplayers web site |
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| 01:15.23 | sparr | thanks bbrazil... youd think it might spit that out in the error message |
| 01:15.30 | debiankid | !iptables |
| 01:15.31 | dpkg | hmm... iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 01:15.38 | Xenguy | !sdl |
| 01:15.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sdl is the Simple DirectMedia Layer at http://libsdl.org/, or see esd-sdl |
| 01:16.21 | bbrazil | sparr: actually that's not too bad an idea. You should file a bug with that suggestion |
| 01:16.49 | sparr | bbrazil: i had to increase the value. i just put 22222222 |
| 01:17.31 | debiankid | can any1 tell me what is wrong there ????????? iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -s 10.30.142.12 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 10.30.143.1:80 |
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| 01:18.24 | Exodus3 | pipeline thanks :) |
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| 01:19.01 | unstable | !iptables |
| 01:19.01 | dpkg | i heard iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 01:19.58 | AppleCore | it works... but is very crashy |
| 01:20.03 | pipeline | AppleCore: You don't have to mess around with it at all. Just add "radeon" to /etc/modules, reboot, and it should work fine. |
| 01:20.16 | unstable | AppleCore: You need to use "ati" driver. |
| 01:20.18 | Kovecses | AppleCore: did you install fglrx? |
| 01:20.24 | debiankid | unstable on the channel iptables is mutted no1 answer :( |
| 01:20.25 | AppleCore | yes, i used the ati driver |
| 01:20.29 | unstable | Kovecses: He shouldn't install fglrx |
| 01:20.30 | pipeline | unstable, Kovecses : He shouldn't use "ati" *or* "fglrx" |
| 01:20.39 | AppleCore | no this is testing |
| 01:20.40 | pipeline | AppleCore: Use the "radeon" driver. |
| 01:20.52 | unstable | Use the "ati" driver. |
| 01:20.55 | Kovecses | pipeline: did i tell him to use either of those? |
| 01:21.15 | unstable | The radeon driver doesn't exit does it? |
| 01:21.18 | unstable | Is that xfree86? |
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| 01:22.28 | AppleCore | radeon is loaded |
| 01:22.39 | debiankid | im back |
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| 01:22.54 | Perdignus | Anyone well versed in xmame.SDL on the Linux framebuffer/vesa console? |
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| 01:26.00 | mikefoo | works frin when its local dir to local dir - anyone have an idea? |
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| 01:30.07 | DAaaMan64 | anybody know where I can find a list of commands that can be given to grub on boot? I have something I need it to do. |
| 01:30.18 | DAaaMan64 | or rather that I need xorg to do. |
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| 01:31.24 | liable | DAaaMan64: you mean kernel options? |
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| 01:32.07 | DAaaMan64 | liable: yeah I guess, I want to be able to adjust the xorg.conf file in the grub line. So then I can switch between xorg.conf files. |
| 01:32.09 | litage | when i ssh into boxA or boxB and then exit the ssh session, i'm put back on the cli. but when i ssh into boxC and then exit the ssh session, before being put back at the cli, the screen is cleared. how do i prevent the screen from being cleared? |
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| 01:33.31 | Kovecses | DAaaMan64: can you do that? |
| 01:33.36 | liable | DAaaMan64: i dont know if thats possible. |
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| 01:34.02 | DAaaMan64 | liable: I was told that maybe I could... Hmmmm |
| 01:34.26 | DAaaMan64 | liable: is that line even interface with xorg at all? |
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| 01:35.20 | liable | DAaaMan64: xorg is called from init, not grub. grub deals with kernel paramaters |
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| 01:37.31 | DAaaMan64 | liable: I see, do you have any suggestions for me? Are there infinite init levels? Like maybe set init level 5 to one xorg and init 6 to another, then specify the init on grub. Make sense? I know I can specify the init level in grub. |
| 01:37.45 | Saint-Takeshi | init 6 is reboot |
| 01:37.56 | Perdignus | DAaaMan64 : just setup two grub entries, each going to a different init level, maybe 3 and 4 and put a script in each level that places the correct xorg.conf into /etc/X11 |
| 01:38.22 | DAaaMan64 | Perdignus: so I can have a front-end over levels 3 and 4? |
| 01:38.30 | liable | DAaaMan64: that should be possible, just a matter of telling xorg to look at a different conf file when x is started. |
| 01:38.34 | Perdignus | DAaaMan64 you can pretty much monkey with levels 234 & 5 |
| 01:38.47 | Saint-Takeshi | init 2-5 are configurable, init 1 is single-user mode, init 0 is shut down and init 6 is reboot |
| 01:38.55 | Saint-Takeshi | i think? |
| 01:39.34 | Perdignus | DAaaMan64 : each init level ( /etc/rc3.d /etc/rc4.d ...) just have symlinks to the init scripts in /etc/init.d |
| 01:39.40 | DAaaMan64 | WOW, thanks, anyone know where I can learn to affect the init scripts to do this? |
| 01:40.09 | dvs | DAaaMan64: man update-rc.d |
| 01:40.23 | DAaaMan64 | Perdignus: I see I will look around, this make linux very portable! Something windows can never do because of liscensing! |
| 01:40.32 | DAaaMan64 | dvs: what does "man" do, sorry. |
| 01:40.39 | dvs | !man |
| 01:40.39 | dpkg | well, man is a little guy that knows everything about linux... just do man <commandname> and he will teach you all about <commandname>, or http://man.mirrorlynx.com to get online manpages, or mannotincluded.com, or a Municipal Area Network (city), or check ASD @ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/asd/ |
| 01:40.45 | dvs | ha |
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| 01:41.41 | Perdignus | What do people see in grub that makes them use it instead of lilo? |
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| 01:42.08 | amphi | Perdignus: a shell ;) |
| 01:42.15 | DAaaMan64 | Perdignus: I dont' know would this be smarter with lilo? |
| 01:42.23 | abrotman | Perdignus: there are advantages to each |
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| 01:42.43 | DAaaMan64 | dvs: COOL! |
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| 01:43.24 | dvs | DAaaMan64: really? |
| 01:43.33 | dvs | DAaaMan64: i'm just used to it. |
| 01:43.33 | Azar | Perdignus: less configuration |
| 01:43.33 | DAaaMan64 | dvs: man is cool I mean. :p |
| 01:44.08 | dvs | DAaaMan64: So I'm a cool man? Thanks! ;-) |
| 01:44.20 | DAaaMan64 | dvs: very very :p |
| 01:44.24 | Azar | I tried to install grub, but I was so horrified, I quit and stayed with lilo |
| 01:44.54 | Kovecses | isnt grub standard? like it installs itself? |
| 01:45.09 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 01:45.17 | Azar | Kovecses: so I heard: only I installed woody which does not come with grub |
| 01:45.27 | Kovecses | ahh woody |
| 01:45.31 | Kovecses | old school |
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| 01:45.45 | Perdignus | Grub is standard, but I always switch back to lilo |
| 01:46.09 | dvs | Perdignus: you're insane! ;-) |
| 01:46.10 | abrotman | grub isn't standard |
| 01:46.25 | Azar | maybe if I knew what is made of, where it is installed , how behaves and how to configure, I won't be so horrified |
| 01:46.50 | Kovecses | it installs itself and sets itself up if you do even the base install... i would call that pretty standard |
| 01:47.03 | liable | default is prolly a better word :) |
| 01:47.13 | Kovecses | yeah prob |
| 01:47.17 | Azar | Kovecses: I tend to be suspicious of such "self-whatever" packages |
| 01:47.22 | Perdignus | dvs: sorry, I only ever install sid, I thought it was standard in sid |
| 01:47.26 | DAaaMan64 | I am sorry, but all the files in rc(initlevel).d, are they services, that are to start up when you run that level? And which one should I edit for my xorg? |
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| 01:47.51 | dvs | Perdignus: I thought it was standard in sarge but I haven't reinstalled from scratch in years. |
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| 01:48.19 | tsukihime | how can i know my drives BUS ID?? o.o |
| 01:48.24 | Perdignus | DAaaMan64: don't edit any of them, just create a new one that does what you want it to do |
| 01:48.29 | Azar | the main idea is: I quit using windows so I can get an OS I know about, how to install, configure and maintain.. as much as I can. I do not want "leave it to the beaver" stuff |
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| 01:50.17 | Kovecses | Azar: i think most people know how to configure grub.... but when it does it auto... its pretty nice |
| 01:50.35 | Kovecses | Azar: and you can always edit it later |
| 01:50.49 | DAaaMan64 | Perdignus: where can I learn to do this :p, I do not know how to do this, can I copy the right one out of 5 and edit it in 4? |
| 01:51.43 | DAaaMan64 | Perdignus: or maybe, what should I link it to? I can't link directly to my xorg.conf right? |
| 01:51.49 | dvs | DAaaMan64: If you haven't changed anything, then 2 to 5 are IDENTICAL |
| 01:52.12 | Perdignus | DAaaMan64: do some research on bash scripts |
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| 01:53.19 | Perdignus | DAaaMan64 all you really need is a super basic bash script (equivilant to dos batch script) with some copy move or rename commands to place the right xorg.conf into place |
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| 01:53.47 | concept10 | What does linux use the /lib/firmware directory for? Is this for loading modules or drivers at runtime or compile time? |
| 01:53.51 | DAaaMan64 | Perdignus, makes sense. |
| 01:55.47 | DAaaMan64 | This could be pretty fun :) |
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| 01:57.42 | Azar | Kovecses: I was not even able to install it :) |
| 01:58.29 | Azar | my installation, kernel upgrade, configuration work perfect why should I change |
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| 01:58.49 | concept10 | damn, i forgot what is the cmd for listing info on a drivers version? |
| 02:00.54 | liable | DAaaMan64: actually, you should be able to run two instances of xorg on the same box with different config options. |
| 02:00.55 | liable | concept10: modinfo? |
| 02:00.55 | concept10 | liable, oh yes, thanks |
| 02:00.55 | Kovecses | Azar: i never said to change? |
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| 02:01.44 | concept10 | liable, thats how long its been since I have fooled around with drivers |
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| 02:02.19 | liable | concept10: heh, no real need unless you add new stuff :) |
| 02:02.47 | concept10 | liable, or if people switch drivers on you |
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| 02:03.30 | liable | DAaaMan64: man Xorg and /etc/X11/Xservers are where you might find some info. |
| 02:03.46 | DAaaMan64 | liable: thank you! |
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| 02:04.39 | liable | DAaaMan64: you might want to learn how to use a cli editor for when you break x :) |
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| 02:09.44 | abrotman | farkin' sox |
| 02:10.02 | dvs | abrotman: What the fark? |
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| 02:10.55 | dvs | abrotman: Cheer for a real team like the Jays |
| 02:10.57 | dvs | !pal dvs |
| 02:10.58 | abrotman | dvs: don't you have some hamilton tigers to watch ? |
| 02:11.16 | abrotman | dvs: yeah .. how's it feel to have 55million sitting on the bench? :) |
| 02:12.00 | DAaaMan64 | So if I write "rm /home/DAaaMan64/asdf/" in bash, what am I doing wrong when it can't remove that directory? I made it there. |
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| 02:12.15 | abrotman | rmdir ? |
| 02:12.48 | DAaaMan64 | abrotman, is that all there is to it? What if I have a file named asdf? |
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| 02:13.07 | dvs | DAaaMan64: if it's a file, leave off the last slash |
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| 02:13.37 | De_Mon | DAaaMan64 rm -r if it's directory |
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| 02:14.38 | DAaaMan64 | wow this is really cool, thanks all! What is the equivalent of paste in bash? |
| 02:14.55 | abrotman | huh? |
| 02:14.57 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 02:14.58 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
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| 02:15.34 | DAaaMan64 | abrotman, ok :p |
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| 02:18.26 | Perdignus | When I run "aumix -L" I get this "vol set to 85, 85, ¿" |
| 02:18.38 | Perdignus | What is the "¿" ? |
| 02:18.39 | DAaaMan64 | wow, so cool :) |
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| 02:19.04 | abrotman | Perdignus: an upsidedown question mark |
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| 02:19.11 | daeos | i need to know of a good ftp server to use, ftpd ? or something else? |
| 02:19.22 | abrotman | daeos: vsftpd or proftpd |
| 02:19.25 | dvs | !info proftp sarge |
| 02:19.31 | Perdignus | abrotman : that's Spanish isn't it? but why do I get it? |
| 02:19.32 | abrotman | dvs: proftpd |
| 02:19.32 | dvs | doh |
| 02:19.45 | DAaaMan64 | thank you. I love this. |
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| 02:19.54 | abrotman | Perdignus: mine doesn't do that .. no clue |
| 02:20.03 | daeos | abrotman: whats the different |
| 02:20.07 | daeos | difference* |
| 02:20.17 | abrotman | daeos: different code .. they're both fine .. just pick one |
| 02:20.26 | Perdignus | abrotman: maybe there's an extra space in my .aumixrc |
| 02:20.47 | daeos | abrotman: which is faster to configure? |
| 02:21.32 | dvs | daeos: I'd be more concerned about security |
| 02:21.39 | Perdignus | abrotman: oops, there was no "P" on the end of my line |
| 02:21.48 | daeos | dvs: that was my second question i was going to ask |
| 02:22.02 | abrotman | daeos: probably depends what you want to configure it for |
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| 02:22.17 | daeos | abrotman: simple uploads to the /var/www folder |
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| 02:22.23 | abrotman | either should be fine |
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| 02:22.48 | liable | daeos: use scp then. |
| 02:23.05 | daeos | scp...... why |
| 02:23.16 | daeos | tell me now or i'll hold you liable |
| 02:23.27 | dvs | ewwwwwwwwww |
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| 02:23.42 | daeos | no pun intended |
| 02:24.09 | daeos | but seriously, whats the reason for scp vs the others? |
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| 02:25.13 | scam | i cant turm my snd up and down in vlc or any other player but i cant with the one one the gnome dock |
| 02:25.23 | scam | i can turm my snd up and down in vlc or any other player but i cant with the one one the gnome dock |
| 02:25.28 | abrotman | gstreamer-alsa |
| 02:25.33 | dvs | we heard you the first time ;-) |
| 02:25.46 | scam | dvs i said cant twice |
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| 02:26.26 | jair | !eth |
| 02:26.29 | Perdignus | Is the "speaker" in the mixer, the "beep" speaker or actually "speakers" hooked up to the sound card? |
| 02:26.38 | jair | !etch |
| 02:26.39 | dpkg | i guess etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 02:26.47 | dvs | Perdignus: The beep-beep speaker |
| 02:26.52 | abrotman | Perdignus: BEEEEEEEEEEP |
| 02:26.58 | daeos | as in beep code speaker |
| 02:27.03 | jair | !sid |
| 02:27.03 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 02:27.06 | Perdignus | Thanks, sorry for the dumb question, but I really never knew |
| 02:27.31 | daeos | its a itty bitty tweeter that sux for sound :) |
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| 02:28.36 | daeos | scp..... |
| 02:28.38 | daeos | i'll go read up on it |
| 02:28.44 | jair | so I heard that in order for me to upgrade to SID or ETCH from SARGE I need to change something on the source.lst and then run the command apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 02:29.21 | scam | Perdignus, its sparc60 |
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| 02:29.32 | scam | im using the internal speaker at the moment |
| 02:29.42 | scam | ultra60 |
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| 02:30.23 | daeos | so.... i look up scp and its a client it seems, i need a ftp server thats why i asked about ftpd, abrotman, what did you say were those 2 to look into? |
| 02:30.30 | jair | abrotman, so I am sorry if I want to upgrade from sarge or stable I need to??? |
| 02:30.41 | abrotman | daeos: vsftpd or proftpd |
| 02:30.47 | abrotman | jair: upgrade to waht ? |
| 02:31.01 | dvs | jair: sarge is stable |
| 02:31.17 | jair | abrotman, to the version of Etch or sid from my sarge version. |
| 02:31.20 | daeos | vsftpd: The Very SEcure FTP Daemon ...... |
| 02:31.22 | g3brown | I have about 18GB of jpgs I want to backup on a weekly basis. It is going from one drive to another drive in the same computer. What would be fastest? tar rsync rsnapshot ?? |
| 02:31.30 | dvs | jair: Why do you need etch? |
| 02:31.33 | emss | daeos: sftp, vsftpd, pure-ftpd all nice |
| 02:31.40 | jair | dvs, ok maybe sid |
| 02:31.45 | daeos | ok good |
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| 02:31.53 | abrotman | !tell jair about sarge->etch |
| 02:32.09 | jair | dvs, I just want to test newer packages and applications on a testing lab |
| 02:32.32 | jair | abrotman, I think is dpkg actually :) |
| 02:32.44 | abrotman | huh? |
| 02:32.52 | jair | abr4h4m, I got it :) |
| 02:32.59 | g3brown | daeos: I've found vsftpd to be faster for lan. proftpd integrates with mysql better for users. my 2 cents |
| 02:33.01 | jair | abrotman, I got it never mind |
| 02:33.16 | jair | abrotman, you gave it to me. |
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| 02:35.36 | jair | !tell jair about testing security |
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| 02:36.40 | jair | !tell jair secure-testing-master apt-key |
| 02:37.00 | jair | !tell abrotman secure-testing-master apt-key |
| 02:37.04 | abrotman | dude |
| 02:37.12 | jair | haha |
| 02:37.13 | jair | sorry |
| 02:37.23 | jair | I can not get the answer from the bot |
| 02:37.35 | jair | !secure-testing-master apt-key |
| 02:37.36 | dpkg | [secure-testing-master apt-key] a way for you to get apt-get to stop whining about gpg key warnings. check http://secure-testing-master.debian.net for the latest key, or "wget http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ziyi-2005-7.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -" |
| 02:37.37 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 02:37.41 | jair | I got it |
| 02:37.42 | jair | :) |
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| 02:41.05 | UncleSkunk | yarrr I dont get that |
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| 02:41.25 | dvs | UncleSkunk: arrr! What ye don't get? |
| 02:41.36 | pinkmermaid | Woohoo, I'm on a shiny new Debian installation. |
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| 02:41.53 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:42.00 | UncleSkunk | I couldn't use this name cause I was already on it? .. |
| 02:42.13 | dvs | !beer pinkmermaid |
| 02:42.17 | Ronin | UncleSkunk: msg nickserv help then |
| 02:42.25 | Perdignus | Anyone know why I suddenly can't use my arrow keys to play tint? I tried kbd-config |
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| 02:42.36 | pinkmermaid | :D Thanks. |
| 02:42.57 | pinkmermaid | So far, my only complaint is that I was a ditz and didn't go into package selection in the install and now I have all this kde stuff I don't want. |
| 02:43.40 | UncleSkunk | so seeing as Im talking.. anyone in here know if blackbox has a terminal window? they don't seem to be responding in there channel |
| 02:44.03 | gravity | UncleSkunk: Not its own. You can use whatever term you want |
| 02:44.06 | gravity | xterm is popular |
| 02:44.07 | jair | abrotman, what about if I want to install sid? |
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| 02:44.14 | abrotman | !iyhtays |
| 02:44.14 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 02:44.26 | liable | !tell pinkmermaid about remove kde |
| 02:44.42 | UncleSkunk | thanks again folks |
| 02:44.49 | jair | abrotman,it is a keyword to ask for sid to the bot? |
| 02:44.54 | abrotman | no |
| 02:44.57 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 02:44.57 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
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| 02:45.43 | UncleSkunk | but but if things work then its no fun |
| 02:45.50 | dvs | ha! |
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| 02:46.05 | jair | abrotman, ok regardless I would like to install sid... :( |
| 02:46.29 | abrotman | jair: i'm not going to help you with that .. it is NOT something most people should be doing |
| 02:46.48 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 02:46.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 02:46.51 | abrotman | read that |
| 02:46.54 | gravity | jair: Time to learn how to do research on your own |
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| 02:47.03 | jair | thank you |
| 02:47.08 | jair | abrotman, thank you |
| 02:47.21 | abrotman | jair: it doesn't tell you how to upgrade .. it tells you what a bad idea it is |
| 02:47.29 | jair | abrotman, hahaha |
| 02:47.30 | jair | ok |
| 02:47.33 | abrotman | well .. it does |
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| 02:47.43 | abrotman | jair: but PLEASE DON'T DO IT |
| 02:47.43 | jair | I will research about how to install it then |
| 02:47.58 | dvs | abrotman: Yes, it says so |
| 02:48.02 | washo_pelao | chaaa |
| 02:48.04 | Perdignus | Would someone install and try tint for me please? I'd like to know if your arrow keys still work |
| 02:48.09 | jair | abrotman, why I promess I will try to came out from the problems on my own |
| 02:48.09 | washo_pelao | cualquier wn la cago loco |
| 02:48.10 | washo_pelao | xDDD |
| 02:48.15 | abrotman | jair: no you won't |
| 02:48.20 | jair | abrotman, hahaha |
| 02:48.23 | abrotman | jair: you don't even fix sarge on your own |
| 02:48.31 | dvs | jair: No, you'll be back here, guaranteed |
| 02:48.47 | gravity | Let him do it |
| 02:48.52 | UncleSkunk | :( i come here... |
| 02:48.54 | jair | abrotman, it is true, haha but what is the problem with that I am willing to test and to learn |
| 02:49.02 | abrotman | jair: so LEARN ON ETCH |
| 02:49.05 | gravity | It's fine if he wants to learn. We all start somewhere |
| 02:49.22 | abrotman | most of us start at the easy level .. ground floor .. work up .. |
| 02:49.25 | jair | abrotman, dvs gravity I use debian sarge in all my servers (serious working servers) and I am learning about it. |
| 02:49.54 | jair | abrotman, interesting, I have a guy that is willing to mentor me from another channel call #kanotix |
| 02:50.02 | gravity | ugh |
| 02:50.04 | jair | he is really a developer |
| 02:50.12 | dvs | abrotman: Yeah, I agree. I didn't have to ask questions like that. I learned it on my own. |
| 02:50.33 | gravity | Don't get me started on kanotix |
| 02:50.53 | jair | gravity, ok, I do not want to be off the topic :) |
| 02:50.56 | jair | sorry |
| 02:51.00 | abrotman | jair: is it wwallace? |
| 02:51.03 | jair | thank you abrotman I will check |
| 02:51.17 | jair | the sid installation and ask my friend from #kanotix :) |
| 02:51.19 | gravity | That name is somehow familiar... did he hang around here? |
| 02:51.30 | abrotman | gravity: yes .. i keep asking for him to be banned |
| 02:51.30 | jair | abrotman, nope |
| 02:51.34 | gravity | Cute |
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| 02:51.50 | abrotman | gravity: he comes in here . and harrasses a few of us .. pastes shit and leaves |
| 02:51.53 | jair | the guys is really a master "German Guy" |
| 02:51.56 | gravity | Oh fun |
| 02:52.12 | jair | ok thank you very much for your help guys |
| 02:52.23 | gravity | Hero worship is kinda scary |
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| 02:53.05 | plasmoduck | where can I get the script that dpkg uses for info about debian? |
| 02:53.11 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:53.12 | g3brown | I get a _long_ pause "Starting AppleTalk services". On another box months ago, I added an entry to a config that had something to do with a local ip, so it could lookup faster (maybe sendmail) and that fixed it. That ring a bell with anyone? |
| 02:53.29 | gravity | jair: Hope you have fun. In all honesty though, don't lean on other people while you learn too much. There's a reason why we tell you to learn how to do research yourself, especially if you want to run a development environment. |
| 02:53.33 | plasmoduck | tcl script |
| 02:53.45 | gravity | plasmoduck: What are you talking about? dpkg the bot? |
| 02:53.56 | plasmoduck | yes |
| 02:54.07 | jair | gravity, honestly thank you and Gracias |
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| 02:54.19 | plasmoduck | I want to add the search commands to my bot |
| 02:54.27 | gravity | plasmoduck: I don't think there' |
| 02:54.28 | pinkmermaid | Mmmkay, stupid question... How do I edit the applications menu and launchers? Everything's grayed out. |
| 02:54.33 | gravity | s anything special, but ask dondelelcaro |
| 02:54.35 | rutski89 | Does debian host .tar.gz source files through apt? |
| 02:54.41 | gravity | rutski89: Yes |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | !blootbot |
| 02:54.47 | dpkg | i heard blootbot is a severely mutiliated infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
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| 02:54.52 | rutski89 | The website of this one program, "celestia", went down, but it's in debian; can i get the source like that? |
| 02:54.58 | rutski89 | gravity: cool, how would i fetch it? |
| 02:55.19 | plasmoduck | thanks |
| 02:55.20 | rutski89 | (btw, it's the site that's down http://shatters.net/celestia ) |
| 02:55.24 | gravity | rutski89: Make sure you have deb-src entries in your sources.list, then run apt-get source yourpackage |
| 02:55.27 | rutski89 | s/the/this/ |
| 02:55.36 | gravity | rutski89: It'll pull down the whole thing, including the .orig.tar.gz |
| 02:55.43 | rutski89 | awesome |
| 02:55.49 | duxbarak | where should i look or what should i do to make samba work? |
| 02:56.09 | rutski89 | gravity: all i have is deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free, do i just copy that line and make it deb-src instead? |
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| 02:56.36 | gravity | rutski89: Right. Make sure you have both deb and deb-src lines though :-) |
| 02:56.45 | rutski89 | gravity: yup :) |
| 02:56.52 | gravity | (hoping I interpretted correctly and you weren't going to do that, but just being safe) |
| 02:57.05 | rutski89 | gravity: xebian:~# apt-cache update |
| 02:57.06 | rutski89 | E: Invalid operation update |
| 02:57.13 | gravity | rutski89: apt-get update |
| 02:57.16 | gravity | Not apt-cache |
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| 02:57.32 | rutski89 | ahh, hehe; ty. Haven't used debian in a while :-/ |
| 02:57.40 | gravity | apt-cache is all local operations, like searching apt's database |
| 02:57.44 | gravity | No problem |
| 02:58.02 | rutski89 | ahh, yea; like apt-cache search |
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| 02:59.49 | tyler | where or what can i go to tag all my mp3's with info.. like album/song name/artiste which will appear on the lcd of my mp3 player? |
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| 03:00.25 | duxbarak | i'm on a modem for internet, and networked on an isolated LAN with one winXP box, how do i get my linux box to have an IP address and such? it querries DHCP with no result at startup |
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| 03:00.58 | Daedalus_ | duxbarak: set up a dhcp server, or assign it a static IP |
| 03:01.22 | Daedalus_ | duxbarak: man interfaces |
| 03:01.45 | Felipskt | ola |
| 03:01.49 | Felipskt | alguem ai? |
| 03:01.58 | Daedalus_ | tyler: there are many id3 taggers out there. You might try searching for ID3 in synaptic |
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| 03:02.06 | duxbarak | Daedalus_: i tried both, static IP disables dialup, and dhcp didn't seem to work, which package should i be using for the dhcp server? |
| 03:02.09 | Daedalus_ | !es |
| 03:02.10 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:02.23 | tyler | Daedalus_, u mean its called id3 tagging? |
| 03:02.33 | duxbarak | tyler: i like kid3 |
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| 03:02.54 | Daedalus_ | duxbarak: oh, you've got the modem on the linux machine? |
| 03:03.04 | Daedalus_ | tyler: yep |
| 03:03.13 | duxbarak | yeah |
| 03:03.32 | nse | !br |
| 03:03.32 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 03:03.38 | duxbarak | Daedalus_: i'm using a win-modem in a linux box, succesfully :D |
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| 03:03.47 | Daedalus_ | nse: thanks. I can never tell |
| 03:04.29 | Daedalus_ | duxbarak: congrats. So I guess I'm curious who is not getting an IP? the network card on your linux box, or your winxp box? |
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| 03:04.57 | nse | dpkg's br factoid is without the proper portuguese accentuation |
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| 03:05.50 | duxbarak | Daedalus_: linux has no IP on the LAN, only while connected to internet, which the windows box can't see |
| 03:05.59 | Felipskt | algum BR? |
| 03:06.20 | nse | !tell Felipskt about br |
| 03:07.31 | Daedalus_ | duxbarak: if you set your local ethernet interface to static (I assume it would be eth0) in /etc/network/interfaces, it should do the trick. (give it an IP and all that sort of thing too) |
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| 03:08.11 | duxbarak | ok, i'll try that |
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| 03:10.10 | duxbarak | Daedalus_: on this line -> iface eth0 inet dhcp ? change dhcp to static? |
| 03:10.39 | duxbarak | or change -> auto lo eth0 <- auto to static? |
| 03:10.59 | Daedalus_ | duxbarak: the first. you'll have to add some more info too |
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| 03:11.25 | Daedalus_ | duxbarak: man interfaces for all the details |
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| 03:12.25 | duxbarak | ok, will do |
| 03:12.29 | duxbarak | thanks |
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| 03:12.36 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Get a job!!! You slacking bum! |
| 03:13.16 | abrotman | yeah! |
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| 03:15.07 | tsukihime | how can i unzip a .exe zip file?? o.o |
| 03:15.27 | scarynetworkguy | unzip. |
| 03:15.47 | scarynetworkguy | And/or rare earth magnets. |
| 03:16.01 | Daedalus_ | scarynetworkguy: will unzip self extracting executables? |
| 03:16.32 | scarynetworkguy | Daedalus_: I'm pretty sure it will. |
| 03:16.48 | Daedalus_ | scarynetworkguy: err that wasn't a sentence, but it seems you got my meaning |
| 03:17.08 | scarynetworkguy | That's cause I'm smart like that. |
| 03:17.21 | Daedalus_ | !beer scarynetworkguy |
| 03:17.49 | scarynetworkguy | YAY! IPA!! |
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| 03:18.23 | abrotman | !beer me |
| 03:18.27 | abrotman | yay! |
| 03:19.06 | abrotman | it's locked now |
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| 03:21.10 | CompWizrd | winzip will, i presume unzip would know what to do with it too |
| 03:21.29 | Daedalus_ | CompWizrd: winzip for linux?? |
| 03:21.33 | DAaaMan64 | is there a command to tell me what init level I am in? |
| 03:21.52 | Daedalus_ | Now there's a contradiction... |
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| 03:22.17 | CompWizrd | Daedalus_: haven't tried unzip with a self extractor, oddly enough.. but i know winzip does |
| 03:22.23 | DAaaMan64 | why? |
| 03:22.27 | endeavormac | I have all these packages related to KDE, but I have already apt-get remove kde. How can I remove the rest of these packages? |
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| 03:23.25 | liable | !tell endeavormac about remove kde |
| 03:23.40 | endeavormac | thanks |
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| 03:23.50 | Daedalus_ | DAaaMan64: oh, that was unrelated to you. echo $RUNLEVEL |
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| 03:24.48 | UncleSkunk | bye-bye |
| 03:25.13 | crm | how do i set up a pcmcia network card under debian stable |
| 03:25.22 | DAaaMan64 | Daedalus_: thanks! |
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| 03:26.21 | abrotman | crm: which kernel ? |
| 03:26.36 | crm | abrotman, 2.4.27 |
| 03:26.44 | abrotman | look for pcmcia module packages |
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| 03:27.06 | DAaaMan64 | Daedalus_: are you sure it is $RUNLEVEL? I am not getting anything back. |
| 03:27.13 | Daedalus_ | DAaaMan64: if that doesn't work for you, /sbin/runlevel will tell you |
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| 03:27.22 | Daedalus_ | DAaaMan64 |
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| 03:27.47 | Daedalus_ | DAaaMan64: yeah, I didn't get anything here when I tried it. Did try runlevel though, so that works |
| 03:27.59 | DAaaMan64 | ok, that worked, thanks. have to restart now. |
| 03:28.03 | alkoma | hi all - is there a debian irc channel for powerpc-debian ? |
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| 03:28.10 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 03:28.11 | dpkg | i heard ppc is is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc and/or #debian-ppc |
| 03:28.21 | crm | abrotman, they diddnt get installed somehow not i got to put the drive in a diffrent box again (no cdrom) |
| 03:28.40 | alkoma | thanks! |
| 03:28.55 | Daedalus_ | crm: you can get them over the network |
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| 03:29.47 | crm | Daedalus_, i could if they wasnt neded for the network card |
| 03:29.59 | Daedalus_ | crm: Heh. Forgot about that. |
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| 03:30.14 | Daedalus_ | crm: can you do a USB key transfer? |
| 03:30.37 | crm | Daedalus_, nope old 486 = no usb |
| 03:30.54 | Daedalus_ | crm: wow. that's a beast of a laptop |
| 03:31.13 | crm | Daedalus_, yep 486/75 16mb ram lol |
| 03:31.45 | Daedalus_ | crm: I suppose you could set up a serial link, but it might be faster to just move the hd. Fun fun |
| 03:32.12 | CompWizrd | i had to install debian on my 486 without a cdrom or network card.. great fun.. luckily i had dos on the system |
| 03:32.49 | abrotman | use floppies |
| 03:33.11 | CompWizrd | yeah, the boot floppy way is easy, i still use that even on modern machines |
| 03:33.21 | crm | floppy drive is dead hehe |
| 03:33.22 | CompWizrd | one floppy, recycle it when it asks for the root image |
| 03:33.34 | CompWizrd | crm: ah yes, the word you're looking for is fornicated. |
| 03:33.55 | CompWizrd | what's the current OS on it/ |
| 03:34.20 | casidgcoi | how to make autologin using mingetty? |
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| 03:34.27 | abrotman | crm: the most useful device you'll ever own :) |
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| 03:35.27 | casidgcoi | how to make autologin? |
| 03:35.37 | emss | haven't used a floppy drive in years :D |
| 03:35.57 | Daedalus_ | casidgcoi: autologin? |
| 03:36.15 | casidgcoi | Daedalus_ login automatic |
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| 03:37.17 | Daedalus_ | casidgcoi: that seems like an undesirable thing. You can set the password to nothing, so just a username is needed, but I can't think of an application where you don't want any prompt at all |
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| 03:38.38 | casidgcoi | Daedalus_ ok |
| 03:40.05 | emss | are there any other KDE applets like the adept notifier for apt? maybe one not dependent upon adept... |
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| 03:48.52 | jair | abrotman, this package does not exist of the debian distribution? glibc6? |
| 03:48.58 | jair | hello guys |
| 03:49.19 | jair | I am trying to fing out if sarge use the package "glibc6"? |
| 03:49.26 | jair | I do not think it use it |
| 03:50.15 | gravity | Weren't you supposed to be looking for answers yourself? |
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| 03:51.56 | bucky | it uses libc6 which contains glibc |
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| 03:54.49 | jair | gravity, I am talking about sarge, and yes I check on the sarge package web site and it is unavailable at the moment |
| 03:55.31 | jair | gravity, but I am trying to see if I can install the radio station in a sarge server, but it needs that package "glibc6" which comes for sure in unstable |
| 03:55.54 | jair | bucky, that is interesting |
| 03:55.57 | jair | thank you |
| 03:56.02 | jair | I need to leave now |
| 03:56.07 | jair | take care and good night |
| 03:56.45 | deadcat | is this a good way to get the filesize in MB? $filesize=sprintf("%1.1f", filesize($game) / (1024 * 1024)); |
| 03:56.48 | deadcat | php ^^ |
| 03:56.51 | gravity | talk about missing the point |
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| 03:58.37 | nnod | i recently lost the ability to switch to VTs from X after a recent experimental dist-upgrade, anyone else? |
| 03:59.27 | bucky | nnod: have you rebooted since the upgrade ? |
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| 03:59.39 | linkss | I want to fuck my girlfriend from back, not in ass.. but in back.. like a monkey! Therefore, my dick isn't so big, something like 0,14m. What can I do? I'm having problems to put my dick in her pussy! Someone can help me? |
| 03:59.59 | nnod | bucky: yep |
| 04:00.27 | streuner_ | linkss: did you see the /topic? |
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| 04:00.48 | bucky | linkss: sounds like a ubuntu question to me |
| 04:00.53 | streuner_ | haha |
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| 04:02.08 | Liquid_Ic | how can i disable the 'flash' when I take a screenshot? |
| 04:02.14 | linkss | streuner_, no! I hate to read stupid topics |
| 04:02.15 | Liquid_Ic | nm |
| 04:02.33 | linkss | bucky, serios man! This is important to me! |
| 04:02.45 | bucky | ever notice how many lost brazilians are around since mandrake bought connectiva |
| 04:03.04 | UdontKnow | bucky: heh. thanks for the prejudice :/ |
| 04:03.10 | streuner_ | linkss: #debian-offtopic |
| 04:03.15 | pinkmermaid | Mmmkay, so far liking my Debian experience... Generally pleased... Woohoo. |
| 04:03.22 | UdontKnow | bucky: I am brazilian too, I am not like that though... |
| 04:03.38 | bucky | UdontKnow: you're probably linkss's neighbor |
| 04:03.46 | UdontKnow | bucky: I hope not |
| 04:04.02 | streuner_ | in this case he would help him? |
| 04:04.11 | bucky | linkss: UdontKnow lives down the street from you.. he can help |
| 04:04.25 | UdontKnow | bucky: what did he ask? /msg me that |
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| 04:04.29 | streuner_ | linkss: come to #debian-offtopic |
| 04:04.49 | streuner_ | we will discuss those things usually there ;-) |
| 04:04.52 | bucky | and bring your pecker stretcher |
| 04:05.03 | linkss | all right |
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| 04:10.16 | linkss | So, once my last question was not apropriate, I should ask: What I need to register a program as OpenSource? |
| 04:10.32 | gravity | Register it? |
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| 04:10.37 | gravity | What does that mean? |
| 04:10.50 | ifup | can someone help me? I am trying to build linux-wlan-ng with module-assistant and it fails. I am using sid with kernel 2.6.16-1-686 |
| 04:11.35 | linkss | yes. I wrote a great program. Now, I want to register it's patents. I want to make it opensource. |
| 04:11.42 | linkss | What the first step? |
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| 04:11.57 | gravity | Teach me to actually get work done and then try and join a discussion without reading scrollback |
| 04:12.15 | gejo_deb | I am getting a lot of this error on dmesg output on all of my debian sarge production servers |
| 04:12.19 | gejo_deb | http://pastebin.com/641460 |
| 04:12.41 | gejo_deb | Is anybosy ia having any idea about this error |
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| 04:14.17 | gejo_deb | is it a kernel upgrading problem? |
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| 04:16.33 | themusicgod1 | Using gnome, after logging in from screensaver, my pointer has dissapeared. How does one get a pointer back in gnome/xorg? |
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| 04:25.05 | magyar | i am trying to get the build deps for cyrus-sasl2 but keep getting "E: Build-dependencies for cyrus-sasl2 could not be satisfied." |
| 04:25.07 | magyar | why? |
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| 04:27.44 | unstable | magyar: apt-get install cyrus-dev-2.2 |
| 04:27.49 | ifup | can someone help me? I am trying to build linux-wlan-ng with module-assistant and it fails. I am using sid with kernel 2.6.16-1-686 |
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| 04:28.13 | unstable | themusicgod1: as root "rmmod psmouse; modprobe psmouse;"?(this might not work) |
| 04:28.26 | unstable | ifup: What nic do you have? |
| 04:28.33 | mhall | My girlfriend got tired of algebraic, so I flipped her over, gave her a little reverse Polish, and overflowed her stack. |
| 04:28.35 | themusicgod1 | psmouse ~= ps/2 mouse? |
| 04:28.38 | themusicgod1 | i'm using usb |
| 04:28.39 | magyar | unstable: thank you |
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| 04:29.10 | unstable | themusicgod1: can't hurt to try |
| 04:29.24 | themusicgod1 | no luck...although mozilla firefox is suspiciously using 99% of my cpu time |
| 04:29.26 | ifup | I have microsoft mn-510 usb |
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| 04:30.24 | themusicgod1 | I can maneuver throughout the desktops by using shift+ctr+alt+arrow |
| 04:30.42 | unstable | themusicgod1: yea, I don't use a mouse at all. |
| 04:31.02 | unstable | themusicgod1: I use fluxbox and have hotkeys setup and do everything with a keyboard and no mouse. |
| 04:31.06 | magyar | unstable: http://pastebin.com/641473 |
| 04:31.11 | mhall | 21:30 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian was synced in 73 secs |
| 04:31.21 | mhall | brown.freenode.net is seriously messed |
| 04:31.27 | unstable | I find that it increases my productivity quiet a bit. People don't realize how much time they waste moving their hand back and forth from the keyboard. |
| 04:31.33 | unstable | And having to find a little x and click on it. |
| 04:31.41 | streuner_ | mhall: i hate the same issue some days ago |
| 04:31.59 | streuner_ | mhall: after a short while it was gone |
| 04:32.14 | unstable | magyar: What did you do you broke it. |
| 04:32.27 | magyar | bahh |
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| 04:32.42 | streuner_ | mhall: s/hate/had/ |
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| 04:32.52 | mhall | streuner_: yeah i figured |
| 04:33.30 | magyar | unstable: any clue as to how i can undo? |
| 04:33.41 | unstable | magyar: show me "dpkg -al|grep -i cyr" |
| 04:33.46 | unstable | magyar: on pastebin, not here. |
| 04:33.53 | mhall | what got busted? |
| 04:33.54 | magyar | unstable: roger |
| 04:34.07 | streuner_ | mhall: just try to switch to another one |
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| 04:34.27 | mhall | streuner_: yeah it's not as bad, but it's not good either |
| 04:34.39 | themusicgod1 | unstable: actually I just had a CS project where I designed the system to really rely heavily on hotkeys as opposed to my classmates reliance on non-hotkey using flashy GUI's; preach'n to the converted here ;) |
| 04:34.50 | mhall | streuner_: perhaps somebody's having trouble finding bandwidth donations :-D |
| 04:35.03 | magyar | unstable: nothing to show, "new line" thats all |
| 04:35.12 | mhall | themusicgod1: did you wtfpwn them? |
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| 04:36.19 | magyar | unstable: http://pastebin.com/641476 |
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| 04:36.33 | PowerPC | YAY! i found a working debian 2.2 mirror for apt XD |
| 04:36.48 | themusicgod1 | but still there was something broken in the way gnome was handling the hotkeys; something was stuck, I restarted gnome and it's fixed(But lost some windows&their content). mhall nah. our group was nothing compared to group MM, who had 3x the amount of lines of code than the rest of the class put together, and will be releasing their iTunesish media player to sourceforge any day now |
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| 04:37.22 | themusicgod1 | our project merely worked good, it didn't actually really do anything useful. theirs on the other hand could even improve debian, once ported. |
| 04:37.41 | mhall | themusicgod1: how did that happen |
| 04:37.44 | themusicgod1 | PowerPC: lol |
| 04:38.00 | jayrfink | blah. every night at midnight my WAN connection resets |
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| 04:38.25 | themusicgod1 | mhall: logged in from the screensaver, and my pointer was gone, and the hotkeys didn't work(?) |
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| 04:38.53 | PowerPC | themusicgod1: sorry i had to, old mirrors are scarce :P |
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| 04:39.30 | PowerPC | XD |
| 04:40.06 | themusicgod1 | PowerPC: no kidding. any idea how big the mirror is, in full? and does it have the src? |
| 04:40.33 | PowerPC | themusicgod: no clue but i got the addy :P, ill check for the src |
| 04:41.02 | PowerPC | themusicgod1: http://debian.ethz.ch/mirror/ |
| 04:41.22 | PowerPC | its got the backports and debian-security mirror |
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| 04:42.42 | unstable | themusicgod1: the whole thing is roughly 170 GB |
| 04:42.50 | unstable | sources are 18.5G |
| 04:42.53 | magyar | i am using sarge with "debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/" as my source, but when i do a search for "cyrus-dev-2.2" or any cyrus packages it reports "E: Couldn't find package" is my mirror broken? |
| 04:42.54 | PowerPC | unstable: o.O |
| 04:43.19 | unstable | architecture independent packages are 9 gigs each |
| 04:43.35 | unstable | It's really not that big. |
| 04:43.36 | unstable | one hdd |
| 04:43.39 | PowerPC | unstable: but still mirrors such as that are hard as hell to find, even if they dont have the sources |
| 04:43.52 | unstable | PowerPC: What do you mean? |
| 04:44.00 | unstable | I didn't read anything anyone said. |
| 04:44.01 | unstable | heh |
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| 04:44.10 | unstable | ahh, You want old crap. |
| 04:44.27 | PowerPC | unstable: yeah, im just playing around with old debian releases |
| 04:44.33 | unstable | hamm slink or potato? |
| 04:44.37 | PowerPC | potato |
| 04:44.57 | unstable | What arch? |
| 04:45.13 | PowerPC | i386 |
| 04:45.42 | unstable | deb http://archive.debian.org potato main contrib non-free |
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| 04:46.00 | PowerPC | humm apt didnt seem to like that mirror |
| 04:46.31 | PowerPC | i'll try it |
| 04:46.48 | unstable | What version of apt? |
| 04:47.29 | PowerPC | 0.3.19 :P |
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| 04:47.59 | unstable | PowerPC: What version of debian is it? |
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| 04:48.28 | PowerPC | unstable: 2.2 r7 |
| 04:48.31 | magyar | where can i find a list of repositories in US? |
| 04:48.31 | unstable | Are you mixing/matching between buzz/rex/bo/hamm/slink/potato? |
| 04:48.37 | PowerPC | no |
| 04:48.43 | PowerPC | unstable: i know why |
| 04:48.44 | unstable | !mirrors |
| 04:48.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 04:48.49 | PowerPC | i messed up the link |
| 04:48.51 | unstable | !netselect |
| 04:48.52 | dpkg | netselect takes a bunch of servers and uses multiple pings + traceroute to figure out which one has the best connectivity relative to you (choose the best mirror), or see http://students.washington.edu/eeyem/software/netsel.pl for a quickie perl script to pick the best debian mirror, or netselect-apt will find the fastest debian mirror and write a sources.list file for you! |
| 04:48.58 | themusicgod1 | ai 170gb. that'd take me like a year to download :s |
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| 04:49.24 | PowerPC | 170GB is like half my server's first HDD |
| 04:49.34 | PowerPC | then again i have 2 other 250GBs in it :P |
| 04:49.37 | gejo_deb | I am getting a lot of this error on dmesg output on all of my debian sarge production servers |
| 04:49.41 | gejo_deb | http://pastebin.com/641460 |
| 04:49.44 | gejo_deb | is it a kernel upgrading problem? |
| 04:49.58 | PowerPC | old distros are fun |
| 04:49.59 | PowerPC | lol |
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| 04:51.40 | PowerPC | i need to build another older system to install potato on :P |
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| 04:52.05 | vinboy | hi |
| 04:52.09 | CompWizrd | wouldn't expect any trouble, vmware server runs X just fine on sarge, and it's free as in beer |
| 04:52.19 | vinboy | is there any KConfigEditor compiled for debian?? |
| 04:52.23 | unstable | gejo_deb: Is your nic a rhine? |
| 04:52.39 | unstable | vinboy: What are you trying to do? |
| 04:52.49 | vinboy | unstable: install kconfigeditor |
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| 04:53.29 | unstable | vinboy: What version of debian? Do you have the latest from apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 04:53.48 | vinboy | unstable: i'm using Kubuntu |
| 04:54.00 | vinboy | unstable: i can't find kconfigeditor in the apt-get |
| 04:54.09 | unstable | !kubuntu |
| 04:54.09 | dpkg | [kubuntu] ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, or #Kubuntu, or another debian ripoff |
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| 04:54.17 | unstable | !ubuntu |
| 04:54.17 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 04:54.27 | unstable | vinboy: Please /join #kubuntu or #ubuntu for support. |
| 04:54.32 | vinboy | ok |
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| 04:54.37 | vinboy | thanks unstable :D |
| 04:54.48 | PowerPC | debian sid > * |
| 04:54.49 | PowerPC | lol |
| 04:55.04 | cshaman | does anyone know where the apache2 default cgi-bin dir is? |
| 04:55.41 | sativas | hello. i´m doing little program in C and would want to know if there is a quick and simple way to encrypt/decrypt a string. any thoughts? |
| 04:55.52 | cshaman | i enabled user-based web dirs so ~cshaman/www points to localhost/~cshaman but i wrote a cgi application and i'm not having any luck with the permissions |
| 04:56.02 | liable | sativas: try ##C? |
| 04:56.07 | unstable | cshaman: /var/www |
| 04:56.11 | streuner_ | cshaman: not in the same dir which uses apache usually? |
| 04:56.13 | sativas | liable, thx |
| 04:56.31 | cshaman | unstable: /var/www does not contain a cgi-bin dir |
| 04:56.38 | TheBest | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2299 help |
| 04:56.39 | TheBest | gcc -ggdb -Wall sendtest.c -o sendtest |
| 04:56.39 | TheBest | sendtest.c:3:19: stdio.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:56.49 | liable | normallu /usr/lib/cgi-bin? |
| 04:56.59 | streuner_ | yeah |
| 04:57.05 | streuner_ | for apache |
| 04:57.07 | liable | TheBest: install build-essential |
| 04:57.15 | Azar | wow nice manner class dpkg |
| 04:57.16 | unstable | sativas: http://www.codecomments.com/archive286-2006-1-782967.html |
| 04:57.26 | TheBest | apt-get install build-essential ??? liable |
| 04:57.27 | unstable | cshaman: mine does |
| 04:57.34 | liable | TheBest: yep |
| 04:57.40 | TheBest | ok thanks |
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| 04:59.29 | cshaman | hmm.. |
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| 05:00.07 | leo_ | Hi guys!! |
| 05:00.11 | cshaman | i don't understand. i copied the .cgi file to /var/www/apache2-default/cgi-bin, /usr/lib/cgi-bin, ~/www/ and ~/www/cgi-bin |
| 05:00.13 | cshaman | no dice |
| 05:00.27 | cshaman | i get a "forbidden" message from my browser |
| 05:00.28 | Azar | hi leo_ |
| 05:00.36 | leo_ | what considerations should I take to successfully compile programs in debian? |
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| 05:00.42 | leo_ | hi Azar |
| 05:00.42 | cshaman | apparently i don't have permission, but the file has +x on ugo |
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| 05:00.52 | Azar | leo_ C? PhP? |
| 05:00.56 | streuner_ | cshaman: permissions |
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| 05:01.14 | unstable | !tell leo_ about ask |
| 05:01.24 | cshaman | streuner_: they are ugo+rx |
| 05:01.27 | streuner_ | cshaman: forbidden message caused by permissions |
| 05:01.31 | cshaman | should be fine |
| 05:01.44 | TheBest | !tell unstable about ask |
| 05:01.52 | streuner_ | cshaman: and the folder itself? |
| 05:01.52 | cshaman | do i need to chmod the cgi-bin directory as well? |
| 05:02.37 | TheBest | remove --purge condom :> |
| 05:02.38 | liable | cshaman: is cgi-bin set to allow in apache config? |
| 05:03.05 | cshaman | liable: should be, yes |
| 05:03.06 | unstable | !factinfo ask |
| 05:03.06 | dpkg | ask -- last modified at Wed Jul 27 21:39:43 2005 by dondelelcaro!~don@archimedes.ucr.edu; it has been requested 578 times, last by beardy at Fri Dec 2 18:06:53 2005. |
| 05:03.17 | cshaman | streuner_: the cgi-bin dir is ugo+rx |
| 05:03.45 | streuner_ | cshaman: everythink enabled, only o+g not w |
| 05:03.59 | Azar | leo_: your answer: many considerations |
| 05:04.23 | streuner_ | cshaman: s/everythink/everything/ |
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| 05:05.04 | cshaman | streuner_: u=rwx, g=rx, o=rx |
| 05:05.11 | streuner_ | yep |
| 05:06.15 | cshaman | it doesn't seem like it's a problem with apache...i am not being asked to download the file anymore, but i don't have permission to run the cgi file |
| 05:06.19 | cshaman | via the browser |
| 05:06.21 | cshaman | so odd |
| 05:07.40 | TheBest | help please http://channels.debian.net/paste/2300. sendtest.c:171: warning: unsigned int format, __time_t arg (arg 2) |
| 05:08.23 | leo_ | build-essential |
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| 05:08.26 | leo_ | GCC |
| 05:08.32 | leo_ | GTK |
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| 05:08.38 | leo_ | TCL |
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| 05:08.53 | leo_ | Azar, |
| 05:09.09 | TheBest | i install build-essential |
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| 05:10.23 | TheBest | setsockopt, ill ignore it: Permission denied |
| 05:10.41 | dos000 | anyone can help with a litle patch file i created .. its at http://pastebin.ca/48193. |
| 05:10.47 | streuner_ | cshaman: if you running apache instead of apache2, you get the same error? |
| 05:10.56 | dos000 | am getting errors executing it |
| 05:11.08 | cshaman | don't have apache on here |
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| 05:11.56 | Azar | leo_ yes you can try Debian |
| 05:12.34 | leo_ | I compile a program on my PC fine |
| 05:12.51 | leo_ | then I went to my friend house and try it there |
| 05:12.55 | JoshTriplett | dos000: The patch itself looks fine. Most likely, the file and patch don't match. |
| 05:13.01 | Azar | leo_ I started learning C long ago on a win machine, but I like to do my study better on Debian |
| 05:13.03 | leo_ | and get a lot of errors from the compiler |
| 05:13.19 | leo_ | GCC reported |
| 05:13.32 | leo_ | undeclared function and stuff |
| 05:13.40 | leo_ | I did not get on mine |
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| 05:13.50 | Azar | leo_ the only errors I get are the one I make and the compiler spits them on my face |
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| 05:13.54 | Bips | errors while compiling lvm2 version 2.01.10 with device-mapper 1.01.05.. throwing errors when creating lvm.static |
| 05:13.54 | leo_ | could it be the conpiler version? |
| 05:14.45 | leo_ | uhmmm I get the source from somewhere I didn't code anything my self |
| 05:14.47 | Azar | on the win machine I used borland... on Debian I use gcc |
| 05:14.55 | dos000 | anyone see errors in the litle patch file i created at http://pastebin.ca/48193. i also put the erro i am getting in there |
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| 05:15.13 | leo_ | in theory it should compile in my frends PC as well as it did on mine |
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| 05:15.31 | Azar | leo_ define "PC" |
| 05:15.43 | leo_ | Personal Computer lol |
| 05:15.48 | netdaemon | yet another question from netdaemon, i run btdownloadgui (bittornado-gui btw..) and get a No module named BitTornado error... |
| 05:15.58 | Azar | leo_ everyone uses a PC ofcourse |
| 05:16.15 | Azar | leo_ Operating System, and compiler name |
| 05:16.23 | leo_ | I mean my friend's computer |
| 05:16.29 | Azar | ok |
| 05:16.30 | leo_ | debian |
| 05:16.37 | leo_ | gcc 3.3 |
| 05:17.10 | Azar | you should know then what the compiler tells you.. what the error mean |
| 05:17.50 | leo_ | if it tell that a lot of unctions are undeclared |
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| 05:18.05 | Azar | uh maybe they are not |
| 05:18.17 | leo_ | I suspect there's something worng with the os configuration instead of the source code itself |
| 05:18.18 | netdaemon | eh...nm solved it...it wanted python2.3 >_> |
| 05:18.21 | Azar | some people write C with their feet nowadays |
| 05:18.34 | roby | xvinfo says i have no adapters present, how do I get overlay on? This is a onboard video card, via chipset |
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| 05:19.05 | leo_ | I used gcc 4 to compile the driver spca5xx |
| 05:19.12 | leo_ | on mi box |
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| 05:19.25 | Azar | there is C, C++ C# now I do know that gcc compiles C, do not know about C++ or C# |
| 05:19.29 | leo_ | and gcc 3.3 on my friends |
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| 05:19.42 | leo_ | but I think they should be backward compatible |
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| 05:19.56 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:19.56 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:20.07 | Azar | ummm I doubt, tarzeau what do you think? |
| 05:20.23 | tarzeau | Azar: doubt what? |
| 05:20.27 | Azar | isn't C# a devious microsoftian invention? |
| 05:20.32 | tarzeau | Azar: there's also Objective-C |
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| 05:20.40 | Azar | ah right! |
| 05:20.42 | tarzeau | Azar: i have no idea, i don't need C# nor C++ |
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| 05:21.03 | tarzeau | C# is probably just a hip language like java |
| 05:21.09 | tarzeau | commercially pushed, nowhere used |
| 05:21.13 | Azar | right, a quickie |
| 05:21.18 | leo_ | ok see ya guys i'm going to bed now! |
| 05:21.19 | tarzeau | a rather bad one, too |
| 05:21.26 | leo_ | thanks!! |
| 05:21.27 | Azar | yes! :) |
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| 05:21.34 | tarzeau | damn i need GNU_Style |
| 05:21.35 | Azar | good night leo_ |
| 05:21.42 | leo_ | u2 |
| 05:21.47 | zamolxes | tarzeau: eh, every "erpcrmetc" company uses c# these days |
| 05:22.00 | Azar | zamolxes: because they love quickies |
| 05:22.11 | liable | every what? |
| 05:22.15 | Azar | C for me is art |
| 05:22.40 | zamolxes | C for me is eye-candy assembler |
| 05:22.43 | Azar | C# is like a $0.99 Jack-In-The-Box drive thru |
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| 05:22.51 | unstable | I code in binary. fuck c |
| 05:23.07 | zamolxes | i prefer qubits myself |
| 05:23.11 | Azar | unstable: your head be big by now |
| 05:23.15 | streuner_ | tarzeau: did you read Zugschlus's posting in debian-security? |
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| 05:24.33 | jair | hello guys... |
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| 05:25.35 | Zugschlus | streuner_: what do you mean |
| 05:25.36 | unstable | !greet jair |
| 05:25.37 | dpkg | Bonjour, jair |
| 05:25.56 | streuner_ | Zugschlus: we (tarzeau) spoke about SSL... |
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| 05:26.04 | jair | I am having little bit of struggles with rsync, I am trying to copy a whole directory and everything inside of it to a remote machine but It is taking all of them out and copying them. |
| 05:26.13 | jair | streuner_, how are you today? |
| 05:26.19 | jair | unstable, heyy master? |
| 05:26.25 | streuner_ | jair: fine, thanks. |
| 05:26.36 | jair | unstable, Bnjour |
| 05:26.50 | jair | people here greet in French haha oiii |
| 05:26.54 | jair | ouiii |
| 05:26.56 | Zugschlus | streuner_: ah |
| 05:27.04 | jair | streuner_, did you check my lines |
| 05:27.05 | Zugschlus | streuner_: noone seems to care about GnuTLS |
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| 05:27.12 | streuner_ | Zugschlus: tarzeau made SSL into links2, but he hasn't a sponsor |
| 05:27.13 | jair | streuner_, can you clarify this for me: |
| 05:28.04 | streuner_ | Zugschlus: i need something in sarge on cli using SSL, elinks w3m and lynx doesn't work for me |
| 05:28.04 | jair | rsync -avPo /home/steve/mauroStuff/ ssh jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/ |
| 05:28.56 | Kinks | is there a way to use xterm -e without the window closing after the command is executed? I'm trying to execute a command from an x app and read the output when it's done.. |
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| 05:29.05 | jair | streuner_, when I do this rsync -avPo /home/steve/mauroStuff/ ssh jair@192.168.10.205:/home/jair/ the files and directories of "mauroStuff" get transfered successfully but all out of the directory do you understand? |
| 05:29.06 | jm_ | Kinks: yes |
| 05:29.28 | Kinks | jm_: how can I do that then? |
| 05:29.41 | jm_ | Kinks: xterm -e 'mycmd1 ; read' -- it will wait for you to press enter |
| 05:29.45 | jair | streuner_, and I would like to know if I can rsync the whole "/mauroStuff" directory to the remote machine as it is |
| 05:30.03 | streuner_ | jair: ask in channel, i have no idea about rsync, sorry. |
| 05:30.14 | Kinks | alright, thanks |
| 05:30.21 | jair | instead get all that is inside "/mauroStuff" and copy it out. |
| 05:30.33 | jair | anyone here with rsync knowledge?? |
| 05:31.12 | assfadf | what tcl do i need to install an eggdrop? |
| 05:31.16 | jair | streuner_, thank you anyway |
| 05:31.35 | JoshTriplett | jair: Drop the trailing slash. |
| 05:31.38 | jm_ | jair: remove the trailing / |
| 05:31.46 | jm_ | that's explained in the man page |
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| 05:31.48 | streuner_ | assfadf: in general, read README |
| 05:31.52 | assfadf | i have tcl8.4 installed, but eggdrop says i don't have tcl installed |
| 05:32.07 | streuner_ | assfadf: -dev |
| 05:32.15 | JoshTriplett | assfadf: Just apt-get install eggdrop? |
| 05:32.17 | jm_ | Debian's eggdrop package will install the right tcl package along with it |
| 05:32.36 | assfadf | oh ok |
| 05:32.40 | assfadf | ill get the package then |
| 05:32.40 | jair | JoshTriplett, perfect let me try that |
| 05:32.44 | streuner_ | assfadf: or just look at the depends, jm_ mentioned it already |
| 05:33.32 | jair | JoshTriplett, you mean: rsync -avPo /home/steve/mauroStuff ssh jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/ like this? |
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| 05:34.13 | jair | JoshTriplett, I eleiminate the trailing slash from the "/home/steve/mauroStuff" |
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| 05:35.04 | jair | jm_, /home/steve/mauroStuff like this? |
| 05:35.10 | JoshTriplett | jair: Yes, that's correct. |
| 05:35.33 | JoshTriplett | Looks correct anyway. |
| 05:35.37 | jair | JoshTriplett, let me try :) thank you guys and I will be reading the man page to see where is that stated |
| 05:36.05 | jair | JoshTriplett, I mean it works but i do not want all the stuff out of the directory in the remote host |
| 05:36.12 | JoshTriplett | jair: Right. |
| 05:36.30 | JoshTriplett | jair: The presence or absence of the trailing slash most definitely changes that. |
| 05:36.31 | jair | JoshTriplett, I want to try this one that you gave to see if rsync all the directory like it is in the local. |
| 05:36.42 | jair | JoshTriplett, perfect :) |
| 05:36.53 | jair | JoshTriplett, let me try that |
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| 05:37.25 | JoshTriplett | jair: Also, AFAIK you don't need to explicitly tell it to use SSH. |
| 05:37.46 | jair | JoshTriplett, I really want to learn a lot of stuff about rsync, also learn how to use it with cron and ssh |
| 05:37.55 | jair | ohh really |
| 05:38.08 | jair | JoshTriplett, really so I can even remove the "ssh" |
| 05:38.11 | JoshTriplett | jair: Should default to that. |
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| 05:38.20 | jair | JoshTriplett, sounds nice to me |
| 05:38.45 | jm_ | that looks like he wants to copy file/dir ssh to destination anyway |
| 05:38.53 | jair | JoshTriplett, jair@enigma:~$ ls |
| 05:38.53 | jair | mauroStuff |
| 05:38.53 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:39.10 | jair | JoshTriplett, it works that is a very nice difference |
| 05:39.32 | jair | JoshTriplett, jm_ I want to really thank you for this help guys :) |
| 05:39.34 | JoshTriplett | jair: Also, -a implies -o. |
| 05:39.41 | JoshTriplett | jair: And -P makes -v redundant. |
| 05:39.49 | JoshTriplett | jair: So you could just use -aP. |
| 05:39.56 | jair | JoshTriplett, ohhh |
| 05:40.30 | jair | like this: rsync -aP /home/steve/mauroStuff ssh jair@192.168.10.205:/home/jair/ |
| 05:41.15 | jair | JoshTriplett, jm_ I am trying to get a very good book or tutorial on the internet about creating backups using "rsync, cron and ssh" |
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| 05:41.35 | jair | JoshTriplett, rsync -aP /home/steve/mauroStuff ssh jair@192.168.10.205:/home/jair/ this should make it then :) |
| 05:42.05 | JoshTriplett | jair: If you want one more simplification, ssh defaults to the same user account and to that user's home directory, so if your local user is also "jair" then I think you could just use "192.168.10.205:" as the last argument. |
| 05:42.06 | Bay | Anyone know how to get postfix to use a smtp server with sendmail rather than sending itself? |
| 05:42.12 | jair | JoshH, now what about if I need to do the back up but I want to close the console because I am running that from a putty command in an remote laptop :) |
| 05:42.40 | jair | JoshTriplett, that sounds great |
| 05:42.59 | JoshTriplett | jair: Prefix the command with "nohup". |
| 05:43.04 | JoshTriplett | jair: man nohup |
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| 05:43.56 | jair | JoshTriplett, perfect I will check that, that will allow me to run the command and then get disconnected but leave the process runing |
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| 05:44.01 | jair | right :) |
| 05:44.02 | JoshTriplett | jair: If you want backups, BTW, you might just want to use one of the existing pieces of backup software in Debian. |
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| 05:44.20 | jair | JoshTriplett, like which ones? |
| 05:45.00 | JoshTriplett | jair: "apt-cache search backup"? |
| 05:45.03 | jbrouhard | Debian Sarge is installing on my DellPoweredge 4200... |
| 05:45.12 | jbrouhard | when all my other distros never installed, except for Gentoo |
| 05:45.32 | Azar | I am using an app written for Debian proshield, it has a backup feature |
| 05:45.45 | jbrouhard | Anyone here ever use ISPConfig ? |
| 05:45.48 | JoshTriplett | jair: I personally use backup-manager, though I don't think it does rsync so it might not work for you. |
| 05:45.55 | JoshTriplett | jair: I don't know about the numerous others. |
| 05:46.30 | jair | JoshTriplett, and what distro do you use? |
| 05:47.05 | JoshTriplett | jair: Hmmm. I'm in #debian, take a guess. :) |
| 05:47.08 | jair | JoshTriplett, Linux stevie 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Tue Aug 16 13:22:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 05:47.12 | jair | hahaha |
| 05:47.16 | jair | JoshTriplett, good |
| 05:47.23 | jair | JoshTriplett, but you use stable? |
| 05:47.28 | JoshTriplett | jair: Ah, I notice that you mentioned putty; are you backing up a Windows machine? |
| 05:47.43 | JoshTriplett | jair: I run stable on some machines and unstable on others. |
| 05:47.54 | jair | nope I am backing up a Linux Debian stable to another Debian stable |
| 05:47.59 | JoshTriplett | jair: So why putty? |
| 05:48.16 | JoshTriplett | jair: Ah, logging into it via puty. |
| 05:48.19 | JoshTriplett | *putty |
| 05:48.19 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 05:48.32 | quik_ | how can I list the users that exist on my debian machine? |
| 05:48.36 | jair | JoshTriplett, nice guess |
| 05:48.40 | JoshTriplett | quik_: Check /etc/passwd |
| 05:48.50 | ouznext | jair: for backups I use dump/restore. |
| 05:48.57 | jair | JoshTriplett, so that back up is automated? |
| 05:49.04 | ouznext | quik_: cat /etc/passwd |
| 05:49.14 | jair | ouznext, interesting?? I will have to check that |
| 05:49.43 | quik_ | thanks |
| 05:50.40 | ouznext | jair: dump can do full/incremental (several levels), and restore can be interactive or non-interactive. You can use dump to automate backup. |
| 05:50.43 | Azar | jair there is also amanda |
| 05:50.54 | JoshTriplett | Azar: I know several systems which use that. |
| 05:51.00 | Azar | http://small.dropbear.id.au/docs/amanda.html |
| 05:51.22 | Azar | it looks popular |
| 05:51.22 | jair | Azar, thanks |
| 05:52.12 | jair | Azar, ouznext JoshTriplett jm_ one sec I am taking my notes guys i will be ready in acouple of seconds |
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| 05:54.23 | Azar | jair: here are more ways of backup http://deb.riseup.net/backup/ |
| 05:54.35 | jair | Azar, you rocks |
| 05:54.42 | jair | I mean rock |
| 05:55.07 | streuner_ | whats the difference? |
| 05:55.12 | Azar | jair: no, not me... google rocks |
| 05:55.35 | Azar | I just sit here, then when an interesting topics come, I google |
| 05:55.36 | jair | ok guys I guess I will check the nohub man page to do the time my backups from a remote computer but until I master the automated back up |
| 05:55.49 | JoshTriplett | jair: s/nohub/nohup/ |
| 05:55.52 | jair | Azar, that is interesting |
| 05:56.01 | jair | JoshTriplett, nohup ok |
| 05:56.02 | Azar | just a newbie learning... |
| 05:56.16 | Azar | plust I got lots of good reads |
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| 05:56.46 | Azar | write there please also: Azar googles and reads |
| 05:57.00 | jair | JoshTriplett, but then those applications you use to back up linux, they do not do incremental backups? |
| 05:57.35 | JoshTriplett | jair: Several of them do. |
| 05:57.36 | jair | Azar, I will need to do like you |
| 05:57.36 | tarzeau | streuner_: i do. i do, but there's some libdirectfb transition |
| 05:57.36 | tarzeau | streuner_: i didn't read Zugschlus's posting though, url? |
| 05:57.36 | JoshTriplett | jair: If it helps, nohup stands for "no hangup", since it prevents a process from terminating when it receives the hangup signal, sent when its controlling terminal closes. |
| 05:57.53 | jair | JoshTriplett, but the one you use "backup-manager" |
| 05:58.04 | streuner_ | tarzeau: go into debian ML archive (debian-security) and look for his posting 2 days ago |
| 05:58.22 | JoshTriplett | jair: Yes, it will. |
| 05:58.38 | tarzeau | streuner_: subject? |
| 05:58.42 | jbrouhard | Anyone ever seen this on a SCSI Setup: Grub error 18 |
| 05:58.43 | litage | OT: can you guys think of an antonym for "allocate"? apparently "de-allocate" isn't a real word.. |
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| 05:58.58 | JoshTriplett | litage: "free". |
| 05:59.06 | peterS | never mind whether it's supposed to be a word, litage, we use 'deallocate' all the time |
| 05:59.10 | JoshTriplett | litage: And "deallocate" tends to be accepted. |
| 05:59.17 | streuner_ | tarzeau: e-xim GnuTLS |
| 05:59.18 | JoshTriplett | litage: What peterS said. |
| 05:59.22 | litage | heh |
| 05:59.25 | litage | thanks guys |
| 05:59.41 | tarzeau | streuner_: google groups can't find it |
| 05:59.48 | tarzeau | streuner_: and the web interface of debian mailinglist is BULLSHIT |
| 05:59.51 | jair | JoshTriplett, ok thank you very much |
| 05:59.53 | streuner_ | tarzeau: no |
| 05:59.58 | peterS | the one I'm unhappy with is the verb form for administrator |
| 06:00.00 | tarzeau | streuner_: if it's not easily findable,it's not important |
| 06:00.06 | jair | JoshTriplett, I never see you here? |
| 06:00.12 | tarzeau | streuner_: yes of course the debian mailinglist webpages are crap |
| 06:00.12 | peterS | 'administer' is not really what an administrator does |
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| 06:00.20 | jair | JoshTriplett, I mean in #debian? |
| 06:00.21 | streuner_ | tarzeau: its damn easy via debian ML archive, what did you smoke this morning? |
| 06:00.22 | tarzeau | they are fucking shit for webbrowsing |
| 06:00.29 | JoshTriplett | peterS: adminstrate? |
| 06:00.33 | tarzeau | streuner_: i've always hated the debian mailinglist webpages |
| 06:00.34 | peterS | JoshTriplett: yeah but that sounds funny too |
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| 06:00.45 | tarzeau | streuner_: is the subject really right ? |
| 06:00.46 | JoshTriplett | peterS: Sounds better to me than "administer". |
| 06:00.55 | jair | JoshTriplett, can we exchange emails? |
| 06:00.56 | streuner_ | tarzeau: one sec. |
| 06:01.02 | peterS | JoshTriplett: of course in technical fora I just use 'admin' as both verb and noun, neatly sidestepping the question (: |
| 06:01.08 | tarzeau | streuner_: i don't see any relation between https/links2(openssl) and exim/gnutls |
| 06:01.10 | jair | JoshTriplett, just for future info |
| 06:01.10 | JoshTriplett | peterS: As do I. |
| 06:01.12 | tarzeau | streuner_: gnutls is some buggy shit |
| 06:01.18 | tarzeau | nobody ever should use gnutls |
| 06:01.19 | JoshTriplett | jair: I suggest mailing debian-user for questions. |
| 06:01.35 | JoshTriplett | jair: It scales better for questions than I do, and you would probably get a faster response. :) |
| 06:01.58 | JoshTriplett | jair: Or ask here. |
| 06:02.12 | jair | Azar, ouznext JoshTriplett jm_ Thank you very much for your help guys, you really help another debian user to become better to help other as well. |
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| 06:02.23 | PPC|Sempron2800 | wow |
| 06:02.26 | PPC|Sempron2800 | thats funny |
| 06:02.31 | PPC|Sempron2800 | i tried installing debian woody |
| 06:02.35 | tarzeau | streuner_: oh and the mailinglist search of debian is bullshit too |
| 06:02.36 | PPC|Sempron2800 | and it upgraded itself to sarge |
| 06:02.46 | jair | JoshTriplett, good night |
| 06:02.46 | peterS | what's funny, that you can't decide between two different CPU platforms to advertise in your nick? |
| 06:02.51 | PPC|Sempron2800 | and its running on kernel 2.2.20 :P |
| 06:02.53 | jair | good night everybosy |
| 06:02.57 | jair | everybody |
| 06:02.59 | jair | :) |
| 06:03.02 | PPC|Sempron2800 | peterS |
| 06:03.06 | PPC|Sempron2800 | CPU: AMD Sempron 2800+, 1.60 GHz, 256 KB (28% Load) |
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| 06:03.25 | streuner_ | tarzeau: OpenSSL vs. GnuTLS in Exim |
| 06:03.28 | streuner_ | fuck |
| 06:03.28 | JoshTriplett | PPC|Sempron2800: I think you're proving his point. :) |
| 06:03.34 | tarzeau | streuner_: really gnutls is crap |
| 06:03.42 | tarzeau | streuner_: i need to catch the train, have a nice morning |
| 06:03.49 | streuner_ | tarzeau: have fun |
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| 06:03.49 | PPC|Sempron2800 | PowerPC is my nickname and im on a Sempron 2800+ |
| 06:03.52 | PPC|Sempron2800 | i cant help it |
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| 06:04.03 | peterS | he must have a POWERful sempron |
| 06:04.12 | PPC|Sempron2800 | lool |
| 06:04.29 | PPC|Sempron2800 | will debian sarge actually run on kernel 2.2.20? |
| 06:04.34 | JoshTriplett | PPC|Sempron2800: In any case, note that upgrading distributions generally will not change your kernel. |
| 06:04.44 | JoshTriplett | PPC|Sempron2800: So you need to install a newer kernel yourself if you want one. |
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| 06:04.48 | PPC|Sempron2800 | i know |
| 06:04.57 | PPC|Sempron2800 | just it used apt to download the packages |
| 06:05.00 | peterS | PPC|Sempron2800: most of it probably will. certain packages may assume 2.4 kernels by now, and I know a few packages only work on 2.6 kernels |
| 06:05.09 | PPC|Sempron2800 | i see |
| 06:05.21 | JoshTriplett | peterS: I don't remember if libc6 still supports 2.2 in sarge. |
| 06:05.33 | PPC|Sempron2800 | it installed it |
| 06:05.34 | PPC|Sempron2800 | lol |
| 06:05.51 | peterS | JoshTriplett: hmmm, don't know why it wouldn't, 2.2 -> 2.4 did not change much that libc should care about (other than adding syscalls), that I can recall |
| 06:06.08 | JoshTriplett | peterS: Perhaps I'm thinking of 2.0. |
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| 06:06.28 | peterS | JoshTriplett: quite possibly. and 2.6 was big because of TLS / NPTL |
| 06:07.52 | PPC|Sempron2800 | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-386 |
| 06:08.11 | JoshTriplett | PPC|Sempron2800: You might consider "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386" |
| 06:08.19 | JoshTriplett | PPC|Sempron2800: That should get you newer point releases automatically. |
| 06:08.21 | peterS | PPC|Sempron2800: if you really have a sempron I'd suggest kernel-image-2.6.8-686 instead, or whatever it is called (it's something like that) |
| 06:08.29 | PPC|Sempron2800 | peterS: VM |
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| 06:08.31 | JoshTriplett | That too. :) |
| 06:08.38 | eleftherios | I am trying to figure out if my systems sees my wireless card (an nx8220 laptop), is there an app that lists all the detected hardware? |
| 06:08.41 | streuner_ | sempron is k7 |
| 06:08.45 | streuner_ | !k7 |
| 06:08.46 | dpkg | i heard k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 06:08.46 | PPC|Sempron2800 | i know |
| 06:08.55 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: Try "lspci". |
| 06:09.04 | peterS | oh true |
| 06:09.04 | PPC|Sempron2800 | i know K7 is better for the sempron, but its a VM, so really i dont care |
| 06:09.05 | PPC|Sempron2800 | lol |
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| 06:09.27 | streuner_ | use libc6-686 |
| 06:09.44 | streuner_ | if the CPU cannot handle it, it just use libc6 then... |
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| 06:09.57 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, 0000:02:04.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05), that's the one, thank you :-) |
| 06:10.04 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: ipw2200-source |
| 06:10.05 | peterS | so, semper / sempre mean forever in latin / italian. does the sempron therefore take forever to get work done? |
| 06:10.18 | PPC|Sempron2800 | lol |
| 06:10.19 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: apt-get install module-assistant && m-a a-i ipw2200 |
| 06:10.24 | streuner_ | hehe |
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| 06:10.48 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, what is the ipw2200 source? |
| 06:10.56 | peterS | OTOH, they also mean "always". maybe this signifies that you buy sempron chips at Wal-Mart (their slogan is "Always") |
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| 06:11.06 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: The driver Intel provides for the card. |
| 06:11.28 | streuner_ | Sempron is a cheap version of Athlon |
| 06:11.28 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: If you run the command line I suggested, it should install the driver for the card. |
| 06:11.41 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, let's see... |
| 06:11.45 | streuner_ | not more and not less |
| 06:12.06 | ouznext | I love lshw to see what hw has the box (only if installed, apt-get install lshw). lshw --short is a king of hp-ux's ioscan. |
| 06:12.17 | streuner_ | like the celeron chip (Pentium) |
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| 06:12.51 | ouznext | s/king/kind/ |
| 06:12.51 | PPC|Sempron2800 | fucking... |
| 06:12.52 | PPC|Sempron2800 | http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/521/12lu.png |
| 06:13.02 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, it can't find the source and it can't find the kernel headers |
| 06:13.18 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: You may need contrib in your sources.list. |
| 06:13.27 | linux_user400354 | i need help getting vnc to work with java, so my desktop can be viewed using java through a web browser. i have got that to work in windows, but ive had lots of trouble trying to set it up in debian. the vino server that comes with debian doesnt support java. i installed vnc4server and vnc-java from synaptic. when i had vncserver 3.3.7-7, people could connect using java in a web browser, but the screen was all grey. now i am gettin |
| 06:13.27 | linux_user400354 | g these errors when i use version 4 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11509 |
| 06:13.35 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: The drivers depend on non-free firmware, so they can't go in Debian main. |
| 06:13.54 | streuner_ | linux_user400354: #ubuntu |
| 06:13.55 | peterS | PPC|Sempron2800: 3,2 is /dev/hda2. I assume that's what you meant for it to be? then the correct IDE driver is probably not being loaded by the initrd |
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| 06:14.19 | linux_user400354 | streuner, i dont use ubuntu, and those ppl are idiots |
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| 06:14.34 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, damn non-free software |
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| 06:14.43 | De_Mon | "those people" |
| 06:14.44 | streuner_ | linux_user400354: which don't you stop using there pastebin |
| 06:14.45 | De_Mon | nice |
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| 06:15.55 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: As for the headers, if module-assistant can't find them, you can install them manually; just install the kernel-headers- package which corresponds to your kernel-image- package. |
| 06:16.35 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, yes I am in the process of downloading them :-) |
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| 06:17.13 | superlinux | hi all |
| 06:17.13 | PPC|Sempron2800 | would kernel 2.6.15 work on debian sarge if i compiled it? |
| 06:17.15 | Jacobo221 | what was the env variable to set the GCC binnary to use withoput having to change the /usr/bin/gcc symlink ? |
| 06:17.27 | Azar | linux_user400354: why this line in your paste? xsetroot: unable to open display 'ubuntu:1' |
| 06:17.36 | jm_ | PPC|Sempron2800: yes, if you compile it with the right options |
| 06:17.39 | streuner_ | PPC|Sempron2800: why do you want to? |
| 06:17.43 | PPC|Sempron2800 | wondering |
| 06:17.45 | htrp | !w32codecs |
| 06:17.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 06:17.46 | peterS | PPC|Sempron2800: easier than compiling it is getting one from www.backports.org |
| 06:17.51 | streuner_ | PPC|Sempron2800: there is a backport for |
| 06:18.00 | PPC|Sempron2800 | meh, i didnt know |
| 06:18.00 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, so is there a package called ipw2200-source? I can't seem to find it... |
| 06:18.01 | PPC|Sempron2800 | lol |
| 06:18.05 | htrp | !marillat |
| 06:18.06 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 06:18.24 | streuner_ | htrp: use /msg dpkg factoid , please |
| 06:18.37 | htrp | oh my bad |
| 06:18.48 | htrp | how do you install w32codecs then? |
| 06:18.55 | streuner_ | via marillat |
| 06:19.05 | superlinux | they say in the pppoe-server manual that this server is not for production but for testing purposes. how many users should at least be there to consider it for production? |
| 06:19.06 | streuner_ | they are non-free |
| 06:19.35 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: It exists in stable, testing, and unstable. |
| 06:19.35 | eleftherios | htrp, to install the win32 codecs you just unpack them in a directory which I can't remember right now.. |
| 06:19.45 | liable | yay, found a cheap blutooth card for my lappie. :) |
| 06:19.59 | streuner_ | or you just got the package from mplayer's website (essential) |
| 06:20.05 | Azar | liable: what is blutooth? |
| 06:20.10 | jm_ | !tell eleftherios -about contrib |
| 06:20.19 | liable | Azar: are you serious? |
| 06:20.20 | JoshTriplett | jm_: I already suggested that. |
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| 06:20.28 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, weird, I am on stable and I have added contrib & non-free to my sources.list... |
| 06:20.32 | Azar | liable: yes, I live in a cave |
| 06:20.32 | jm_ | JoshTriplett: once might not have been enough ;) |
| 06:20.36 | JoshTriplett | Azar: Considering that you just previously said you google things... |
| 06:20.41 | liable | Azar: short range wireless |
| 06:20.52 | peterS | JoshTriplett: he's being sarcastic about the misspelling, I suspect. very funny, very original. |
| 06:20.54 | Azar | liable: ah I never used wireless that why |
| 06:21.01 | liable | Azar: you got cable in that cave? :) |
| 06:21.11 | Azar | :) dsl |
| 06:21.28 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: apt-get update? |
| 06:21.32 | peterS | Azar: the correct spelling is Bluetooth, it's short-range, intended for small devices like keyboards, mice, cell phones, laptop-sized printers, etc. |
| 06:21.33 | liable | Azar: you know, wirless mouses and shit, talk to your mobile phone and stuff.. |
| 06:21.36 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, done that too |
| 06:21.40 | Azar | but I was never tempted for wireless, don't trust performance |
| 06:22.03 | liable | peterS: yes, i am a bad typer. :) |
| 06:22.18 | Azar | liable: my cordless phone dies every few months, and generally has a weak signal |
| 06:22.33 | liable | Azar: yeah, most cordless phones suck ass. |
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| 06:22.48 | peterS | Azar: think of bluetooth as USB without the cable. more for peripherals rather than regular networking |
| 06:22.55 | liable | *typist* |
| 06:23.03 | eleftherios | JoshH, I had only added contrib to deb-src |
| 06:23.06 | eleftherios | er |
| 06:23.08 | JoshTriplett | peterS: As really slow USB without the cable and with more compatibility problems. |
| 06:23.16 | peterS | well, yes |
| 06:23.16 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, I had only added contrib to deb-src |
| 06:23.18 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: That won't work. |
| 06:23.22 | Azar | peterS: sounds fancy, and tempting |
| 06:23.36 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: Despite the name, ipw2200-source does not reside in the deb-src repositories. :) |
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| 06:24.04 | liable | i really only want it for headset for voip |
| 06:24.24 | Azar | so voip got a real deal... nice |
| 06:24.34 | JoshTriplett | liable: Yeah, because I really want *another* battery to change, and a much heavier headset. :) |
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| 06:25.14 | liable | JoshTriplett: erm, i wasnt talking about you. :P |
| 06:25.38 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, thanks for all the help, I've built it now :-) Thank you! |
| 06:26.06 | jm_ | liable: cheaper than USB Bluetooth dongle? |
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| 06:26.47 | liable | jm_: i doubt it, but i wanted it built in seeing as my laptop has the support for it, one less thing to carry in the bag. |
| 06:27.47 | liable | i cant help but upgrading this "getting old" thinkpad :) |
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| 06:29.24 | liable | jm_: actually, only $20au more including postage. |
| 06:30.16 | PPC|Sempron2800 | after 3 years of using debian i just realized something |
| 06:30.19 | PPC|Sempron2800 | all the codenames |
| 06:30.24 | PPC|Sempron2800 | are named after toy story o.O |
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| 06:31.06 | edward__ | hi |
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| 06:31.47 | rohan | has debian patched kde to solve this bug ? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807 |
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| 06:34.19 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, what do I need to restart for the driver to be loaded? |
| 06:34.42 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: You can just modprobe ipw2200. |
| 06:34.44 | rohan | how and where do i see what all patches has debian applied to kdebase ? |
| 06:35.20 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, ok, that returns silent |
| 06:35.24 | JoshTriplett | rohan: apt-get source kdebase, and look at the .diff.gz, generally. |
| 06:35.35 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: Check dmesg to confirm that the driver loaded. |
| 06:35.46 | rohan | ah .. knew that |
| 06:35.49 | jm_ | rohan: has KDE patched it? |
| 06:35.57 | rohan | wish debian has svn or cvs databse ;) |
| 06:36.11 | rohan | jm_: seems so, becuase a debian user told me that debian solves this bug |
| 06:36.11 | JoshTriplett | rohan: The Debian KDE team probably does. |
| 06:36.16 | rohan | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807 |
| 06:36.25 | rohan | JoshTriplett: i want to see debians patches |
| 06:36.29 | jm_ | rohan: that page tells me it's in state NEW, not resolved |
| 06:36.33 | rohan | to see whether really it has patched http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807 |
| 06:36.38 | rohan | jm_: so ? |
| 06:37.06 | jm_ | rohan: so how could Debian possibly fix it if KDE hasn't fixed it? |
| 06:37.17 | JoshTriplett | rohan: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde |
| 06:37.28 | JoshTriplett | jm_: Uh, Debian does that all the time. :) |
| 06:37.29 | rohan | jm_: because debian can patch it ?! |
| 06:37.44 | JoshTriplett | jm_: Debian often includes patches before upstream does. |
| 06:37.56 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, yes it is loaded :-) Do you know what this is all about: 'ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:', 'Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.'? |
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| 06:38.17 | jm_ | JoshTriplett: FSVO often |
| 06:38.22 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: Hmmm; your laptop might have a switch to turn it off? |
| 06:38.29 | jm_ | rohan: of course, so can you and send a patch |
| 06:38.30 | JoshTriplett | jm_: For a fairly large value of often. |
| 06:38.58 | JoshTriplett | jm_: I think the vast majority of non -1 packages don't just fix Debian packaging issues. :) |
| 06:39.04 | rohan | jm_: i dont know how to fix that problem |
| 06:39.09 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, oh a button that turns it on/off. I think there is one somewhere, heh :-) |
| 06:39.16 | rohan | jm_: had i known, i wouldve have posted the patch on bugs.kde.org |
| 06:40.05 | jm_ | rohan: then wait until it's patched |
| 06:40.21 | rohan | jm_: didnt i just say that i think that debian has already patched it ? |
| 06:40.30 | JoshTriplett | rohan: So check Debian KDE SVN. |
| 06:40.35 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, do I configure the device in a similar manner to eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 06:40.35 | rohan | JoshTriplett: yes. |
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| 06:41.07 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: You can do that, yes. You can use "wireless-essid" and (if you use keys) "wireless-enc" in that file. |
| 06:41.25 | Trent- | can i downgrade to sarge once ive updated to unstable? |
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| 06:41.42 | jm_ | rohan: I fail to see how that changes anything I said |
| 06:42.07 | JoshTriplett | jm_: I think he wants to see if Debian has a patch and submit said patch to KDE. |
| 06:42.18 | rohan | exactly, JoshTriplett |
| 06:42.34 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: If you want something more automatic, consider waproamd or network-manager. |
| 06:42.42 | jm_ | JoshTriplett: I am pretty certain that has already been done if it is really fixed in Debian |
| 06:42.48 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: (Though waproamd can be a bit flaky.) |
| 06:42.53 | JoshTriplett | jm_: I tend to agree. |
| 06:43.00 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, I will try network-manager |
| 06:43.11 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: Note that it only exists in unstable at the moment. |
| 06:43.21 | JoshTriplett | eleftherios: ISTR you run stable? |
| 06:43.28 | Trent- | whats a decent desktop manger for testing? |
| 06:43.32 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, hm, yes I am on stable |
| 06:43.41 | brownie17 | Hey everyone, someone told me you can just download a cd or two that is just the base system, with all the basics but it's much smaller. what is this called and where can i get it? |
| 06:43.42 | JoshTriplett | Trent-: "desktop manager"? gdm, kdm, sdm? |
| 06:43.54 | eleftherios | JoshTriplett, the gnome network config app doesn't find any wireless adapters |
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| 06:44.05 | Trent- | joshtripplett: kdm |
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| 06:44.30 | JoshTriplett | brownie17: You can just download the standard CD1. For that matter, you can get the businesscard or netinst CDs. |
| 06:44.35 | lwizardl | hi |
| 06:44.49 | lwizardl | what is this called ? I'm wanting to setup a backend server to serv as the main information host and have two or three terminals pulling the information and updating as needed. is that called terminal servers ? |
| 06:45.00 | rohan | so, can someone tell me whether debian solves this bug or no ? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124807 |
| 06:45.03 | JoshTriplett | brownie17: Those have even less on them, so they give you a smaller download, and they fit on business-card CDs or mini-CDs respectively. |
| 06:45.12 | jm_ | rohan: try #debian-kde |
| 06:45.12 | JoshTriplett | rohan: Again, check Debian KDE SVN. |
| 06:45.17 | JoshTriplett | Or that. :) |
| 06:45.20 | Azar | interesting description of "geek porn": finding the component manufacturers, ogling the circuit board layout, running your fingers along the silky smooth wiring connector.. |
| 06:45.31 | rohan | ok, jm_ and JoshTriplett |
| 06:45.51 | brownie17 | JoshTriplett, so do they have the ability to upgrade? do they come with a browser? |
| 06:45.56 | eleftherios | Azar, that's porn for hardware geeks |
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| 06:46.01 | PPC|Sempron2800 | ahttp://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
| 06:46.05 | PPC|Sempron2800 | argh which one do i download |
| 06:46.09 | PPC|Sempron2800 | http* |
| 06:46.24 | Azar | eleftherios: yes I guess so, very lyric description, inspirational |
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| 06:47.02 | eleftherios | :-) |
| 06:48.33 | brownie17 | JoshTriplett, so do they have the ability to upgrade? do they come with a browser? |
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| 06:49.03 | jm_ | brownie17: you have a web page that lists contents of each CD |
| 06:49.09 | jm_ | !tell brownie17 -about cd contents |
| 06:49.27 | Edward_TLS | how can I enable NPTL on a debian etch machine (just for tomcat) ? |
| 06:49.35 | Edward_TLS | NTPL i mean |
| 06:49.42 | jm_ | edwards: Etch should have NPTL enabled |
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| 06:49.49 | jm_ | Edward_TLS ^^^^^ |
| 06:49.52 | Edward_TLS | hehe\ |
| 06:49.59 | brownie17 | jm_, is Sarge 3.1 r1 |
| 06:50.09 | jm_ | brownie17: yes |
| 06:50.12 | Edward_TLS | jm_, true... only how can I use it... ? |
| 06:50.21 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: see what? |
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| 06:50.36 | jm_ | if it's enabled? |
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| 06:51.00 | Edward_TLS | tomcat/java needs to use nptl now it only forks one jafa child |
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| 06:51.59 | david___ | does anyone have a suggestion for backing up windows clients (2 laptops) to a linux server? |
| 06:52.03 | brownie17 | jm_, if i just install the first cd, is there an automated procces i can do that will add the contents of the other cd's? like apt-get dits-upgrade or something |
| 06:52.04 | jm_ | libc6 changelog will tell you when it was enabled, it was long time ago |
| 06:52.05 | Edward_TLS | getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION |
| 06:52.14 | mixter | hi! i have a little problem then changing kernel. i got a new p4 dual core machine. if i choose a kernel that is optimized for a p4 cpu (from a debian package or home-made) the server hangs at boot-time. it seems like i have to use a kernel that is made for a 386 cpu. is there any known problems with this? |
| 06:52.19 | Edward_TLS | show that it's avalible... |
| 06:52.19 | jm_ | david___: try backup-pc |
| 06:52.30 | jm_ | yes, it is available ... |
| 06:52.45 | jm_ | mixter: try using updated kernel version |
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| 06:53.11 | david___ | jm_: cool.... I see it's a debian package. jm_ - do you have any experience in using it? |
| 06:53.27 | jm_ | david___: no, I use something simpler because I don't have the need to backup Windows machines |
| 06:53.54 | david___ | jm_: what do you use for your purpose? |
| 06:54.00 | jm_ | david___: dobackup.pl |
| 06:54.01 | mixter | jm_: i'd like to use some of the kernels that is shipped with debian so that i don't have to stay up to date with all the patches. it that impossible to me? do i need to download the source from kernel.org myself? |
| 06:54.02 | brownie17 | jm_, if i just install the first cd, is there an automated procces i can do that will add the contents of the other cd's? like apt-get dist-upgrade or something |
| 06:54.28 | jm_ | mixter: which version of Debian is it? |
| 06:54.42 | jm_ | brownie17: yes, man apt-cdrom |
| 06:54.45 | mixter | jm_: sarge, 3.1 r1 |
| 06:54.56 | jm_ | mixter: ok, you have newer kernels on backports |
| 06:55.18 | Edward_TLS | jm_, so you know how to enable it for tomcat/java ?on suse i need to use LD_ASSUME_KERNEL |
| 06:55.31 | mixter | jm_: ok! do you know if they will be updated if some really bad bug is found? |
| 06:55.40 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: you only need LD_ASSUME_KERNEL for old applications, which makes it not use NPTL |
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| 06:56.09 | jm_ | mixter: yeah, they should update them for security purposes, and they will most likely provide 2.6.16 too some day |
| 06:56.53 | mixter | jm_: that sounds great! i'll look into that... didn't know that backports supplied kernels too. i've only used a few packages from them before! thanks! |
| 06:56.59 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: or was that make it not use TLS? I forgot the details |
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| 06:57.32 | jm_ | edwards: but either way, you should not need to use LD_ASSUME_KERNEL for "proper" applications |
| 06:57.35 | jm_ | gah |
| 06:57.40 | Edward_TLS | jm_, it was to use NPTL normaly it's not using it.. that's on suse... |
| 06:58.12 | PPC|Sempron2800 | kernel 2.6.15 on sarge hung at "2 usb ports found" |
| 06:58.19 | PPC|Sempron2800 | humm |
| 06:58.20 | Edward_TLS | jm_, ok so how can I enable it for debian.. :( |
| 06:58.21 | PPC|Sempron2800 | nvm |
| 06:58.43 | Edward_TLS | jm_, it can't find lots of libs if I use the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL settings |
| 06:58.45 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: try the same LD_ASSUME_KERNEL shit, but I am telling you, it should normally use it, and LD_ASSUME would only disable it |
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| 06:59.19 | Edward_TLS | export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1 thst's what I'll use |
| 06:59.22 | PPC|Sempron2800 | eek problem |
| 06:59.22 | PPC|Sempron2800 | http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6596/tty8gp.png |
| 06:59.35 | Edward_TLS | jmg, the error i get: ls: error while loading shared libraries: librt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 06:59.57 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: I was right, read aobut it here http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT6753699732.html |
| 07:00.33 | PPC|Sempron2800 | jm_:http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6596/tty8gp.png |
| 07:00.46 | PPC|Sempron2800 | after i booted into 2.6.15 |
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| 07:01.08 | Edward_TLS | jm_, i'll read into it thanks |
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| 07:02.20 | PPC|Sempron2800 | hum |
| 07:02.23 | PPC|Sempron2800 | anyone help me? |
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| 07:04.02 | jm_ | PPC|Sempron2800: that's the same as earlier and peterS told you what is wrong |
| 07:04.11 | PPC|Sempron2800 | oh... |
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| 07:04.46 | jm_ | you need to make sure that your initrd/initramfs/whatever image loads relevant modules to have hda1 available - alternatively, your root device might have changed |
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| 07:06.52 | PPC|Sempron2800 | jm_: how would i go about doing that? |
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| 07:08.05 | JoshTriplett | mixter: If you install the package without a minor version number (2.6-686 rather than 2.6.NN-686) it will automatically update for new point releases. |
| 07:08.27 | jm_ | PPC|Sempron2800: it depends on which ramdisk image generation tool you are using |
| 07:08.43 | PPC|Sempron2800 | o.o |
| 07:09.54 | benley | heh. Everybody loves variety. |
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| 07:11.32 | joeblowmoe | Does anyone here know what "likbeschis" or "likebeschis" means in German? |
| 07:12.07 | benley | that doesn't seem to be a real word |
| 07:12.08 | ice_1963 | you got me |
| 07:12.37 | joeblowmoe | benley: what about beschis? |
| 07:13.09 | menko | Hi people, having a problem setting up a printer. I installed foomatic stuff, but when I went through the foomatic gui setup, it gave an error. I noticed it was trying to use guten drivers. So I installed that, but now it gives the error: Unable to read printer database. *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08174f58 *** |
| 07:13.09 | menko | Unable to read printer database. Please ensure the "foomatic-db" package is |
| 07:13.09 | menko | installed properly. |
| 07:13.14 | benley | joeblowmoe: no idea, unfortunately |
| 07:13.22 | menko | any ideas to get it going? |
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| 07:13.51 | benley | joeblowmoe: and it doesn't even show up on the web very much. Is it misspelled? |
| 07:14.19 | joeblowmoe | benley: I don't know, I tried the web, too. Honestly, it's totally off-topic for #debian, I just asked here cuz #german and #deutsch were empty. |
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| 07:15.27 | jm_ | menko: what foomatic GUI setup? |
| 07:15.55 | menko | jm_: err nvm, I got it working with the cups webbrowser setup thing |
| 07:16.14 | menko | jm_: foomatic-gui |
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| 07:17.34 | jm_ | menko: right, was going to suggest to use CUPS |
| 07:17.50 | menko | jm_: :) |
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| 07:18.21 | Capkirk | does this crontab means run every hour at 1.50 2.50 etc -> 50 */1 * * * |
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| 07:18.56 | jm_ | */1 is reduntant ;) |
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| 07:19.44 | Capkirk | jm_: ok so 50 * * * * means every hour at .50 ? |
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| 07:19.54 | jm_ | Capkirk: yes, man 5 crontab |
| 07:20.05 | blafd | hey |
| 07:20.17 | blafd | what package do i need to get libXinerama? |
| 07:20.25 | jm_ | Capkirk: you can also use special string @hourly |
| 07:20.29 | Capkirk | jm_: im reading im reading :) but its abit hard to understand |
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| 07:21.53 | wizzomafizzo | Is a default install of Apache2 secure? |
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| 07:21.58 | usn_work | hi folx |
| 07:22.14 | xcow | hi usn_work |
| 07:22.21 | dondelelcaro | wizzomafizzo: at this moment in time, yes. |
| 07:22.31 | wizzomafizzo | Ok, thanks. Good to know. |
| 07:22.33 | blafd | hmmm |
| 07:22.36 | blafd | backports eh |
| 07:22.37 | sep | wizzomafizzo, until you put in one of your insecure dynamic pages yes.. |
| 07:22.50 | wizzomafizzo | :P |
| 07:23.17 | wizzomafizzo | Is there any security risk in people being able to view the directory contents? |
| 07:23.26 | mixter | are there any difference between the kernel-image* and linux-image* on backports? are both kernel packages? why the difference in name? |
| 07:23.36 | jm_ | wizzomafizzo: they might see your private porn movies! |
| 07:23.48 | wizzomafizzo | SWEET JESUS NO! |
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| 07:24.26 | wizzomafizzo | I'll assume everything is fine then, thanks again. |
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| 07:27.53 | JoshTriplett | biafd: On stable, xlibs-dev. On unstable, libxinerama-dev. |
| 07:28.46 | JoshTriplett | blafd: ^ |
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| 07:30.46 | tarzeau | ERROR: Your kernel was configured to include rivafb support! <- which linux kernel option is that? |
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| 07:31.36 | Azar | uh uh what is port 21 again? |
| 07:31.39 | Azar | ftp? |
| 07:31.42 | tarzeau | Azar: yes |
| 07:32.01 | Azar | thanks tarzeau |
| 07:32.34 | htrp | how do you downgrade something? like tcl8.4 my curreny version is unstable which is 9.12 |
| 07:32.57 | jm_ | tarzeau: rivafb ;) |
| 07:33.01 | nvz | o.O |
| 07:33.05 | JoshTriplett | Azar: "getent services 21" |
| 07:33.06 | tarzeau | jm_: but grepping for RIVA doesn't show anything |
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| 07:33.29 | Azar | ok phew, I know the IP so is ok |
| 07:33.29 | jm_ | tarzeau: FB_RIVA, menuconfig has search facilty |
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| 07:33.45 | tarzeau | jm_: but why when i grep /proc/config.gz i can't find FB nor RIVA |
| 07:34.03 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: AIUI (since I don't use the nVidia driver), that message generally means one of two things: you have riva enabled or the nvidia source package or kernel package has broken horribly. |
| 07:34.07 | jm_ | tarzeau: perhaps that something is looking elsewhere |
| 07:34.19 | tarzeau | FB_RIVA is n |
| 07:34.24 | jm_ | or is generally broken, like JoshTriplett said |
| 07:34.33 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: Look through the script which outputs that message. |
| 07:34.38 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: See what it checks. |
| 07:34.43 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: great. and which script is that? |
| 07:34.47 | tarzeau | I HATE NVIDIA |
| 07:35.03 | Azar | riva is soooooo stone age... |
| 07:35.11 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: Presumably zgrep, BTW? |
| 07:35.16 | tarzeau | Azar: i don't have/want/use it |
| 07:35.25 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: ? |
| 07:35.33 | Azar | woody would do it, but I doubt etc or sid would go for that |
| 07:35.35 | tarzeau | of course i know how to grep gz and non gz files, i'm not an idiot |
| 07:35.46 | JoshTriplett | Just a sanity check. :) |
| 07:35.50 | tarzeau | you should know by now |
| 07:35.50 | blafd | hmm bloody hell the hamachi gui has got some horrid dependacys |
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| 07:36.17 | Azar | tarzeau is my hero he has that cool game |
| 07:36.21 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: In any case, I suggest doing dpkg -L on nvidia-kernel-source. |
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| 07:36.48 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: dpkg -L nvidia-kernel-source | xargs grep -i 'your kernel was configured' |
| 07:36.52 | tarzeau | Azar: which? |
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| 07:37.08 | Azar | the one you will send me with a dedication |
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| 07:37.25 | Azar | birquolo |
| 07:37.54 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: interesting |
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| 07:38.42 | tarzeau | TEH CRAP WORKS HILARIOUS SHIT |
| 07:38.48 | tarzeau | almost |
| 07:38.48 | htrp | how do you downgrade something? like tcl8.4 my curreny version is unstable which is 9.12 |
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| 07:39.18 | plutonas | I have downloaded some .deb files and put them on a folder. Now I want to install them but they have some dependancies that are not in the folder. How do I do this? |
| 07:39.24 | Azar | c'mon tarzeau ofcourse you can do any shit you want |
| 07:39.37 | tarzeau | Azar: i so hate NVIDIA AND ATI |
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| 07:39.45 | tarzeau | Azar: we should all get rid of graphics mode and play nethack |
| 07:39.46 | JoshTriplett | htrp: 1) use package priorities via /etc/apt/preferences or manually dpkg -i an older .deb or give apt-get an explicit version which still exists in the archive; 2) why? |
| 07:39.54 | tarzeau | Azar: and we'd also have no more gnome/kde problems |
| 07:40.06 | Azar | tarzeau: anytime here, I'm not like dying without graphics |
| 07:40.10 | htrp | i see |
| 07:40.29 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: But then how would we play glHack? :) |
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| 07:40.47 | Azar | plutonas: you do NOT download stuff and install: you use apt-get install <package> that will download, install and deal with dependencies |
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| 07:41.27 | plutonas | Azar, yes but I don't have internet on the pc where I tell you. So I downloaded the stuff here |
| 07:41.37 | Azar | plutonas: if you use anything else besides Debian (not Debian-based) forget about what I just said |
| 07:41.39 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: nethack is the only. real. one. besides Nethack.app |
| 07:41.49 | tarzeau | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/nethack.png |
| 07:41.51 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: Oh, I agree; just poking fun. :) |
| 07:41.54 | plutonas | Azar, I have brand new sarge |
| 07:42.01 | Azar | plutonas: sorry, you cannot just download like that |
| 07:42.08 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: tried noegnu3d? |
| 07:42.14 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: Huh; strange. Just looks like YANHFE. |
| 07:42.19 | plutonas | And what do I do if I don't have internet |
| 07:42.23 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: (referring to nethack.app I mean) |
| 07:42.28 | Azar | plutonas: then order the Debian CDs and install from the CDs if you do not have internet connection |
| 07:42.29 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: I've looked at noegnud, yes. |
| 07:42.38 | JoshTriplett | Azar: Other options exist. |
| 07:42.39 | plutonas | is debian only for computers with an internet connection? |
| 07:42.44 | JoshTriplett | plutonas: You could try apt-move or apt-zip. |
| 07:42.48 | JoshTriplett | plutonas: No, not at all. |
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| 07:42.51 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: pity i couldn't find the sources of it, or it'd gotten ported to mac os x and gnustep |
| 07:42.54 | Azar | JoshTriplett: ok that is all I know at the moment |
| 07:42.54 | tarzeau | (and windows) |
| 07:43.06 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: i like the 3d characters mode :) |
| 07:43.12 | plutonas | Azar, I have all the disks but mplayer is not included |
| 07:43.19 | JoshTriplett | plutonas: apt-zip sohuld help. |
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| 07:43.37 | tarzeau | plutonas: yes |
| 07:43.44 | JoshTriplett | plutonas: Debian does not include mplayer. (Hopefully "yet".) |
| 07:43.46 | tarzeau | plutonas: no sane person wants to use debian without internet |
| 07:43.57 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: you don't want it to ship mplayer? |
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| 07:44.08 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: No, I *do* want it to ship mplayer. |
| 07:44.09 | Azar | ;) indeed, get internet if you want gooders |
| 07:44.13 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: so do i. and lame too |
| 07:44.20 | plutonas | tarzeau, why? |
| 07:44.23 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: Particularly considering we ship ffmpeg. |
| 07:44.30 | tarzeau | plutonas: no |
| 07:44.43 | tarzeau | JoshTriplett: it's good we have ffmpeg at least |
| 07:44.52 | plutonas | I mean why this: no sane person wants to use debian without internet |
| 07:44.59 | JoshTriplett | tarzeau: I dunno about that; if you don't have an internet connection, why not use a distro like Debian which has a long stable period with just security updates, so you don't need to update often. |
| 07:45.09 | Azar | plutonas: if you do not know how to fix dependencies do not install stuff offline. get internet connection and use apt-get |
| 07:45.14 | tarzeau | plutonas: because |
| 07:45.17 | JoshTriplett | Azar: Again, no. |
| 07:45.23 | JoshTriplett | plutonas: You have several options here. |
| 07:45.33 | JoshTriplett | plutonas: One would be to use an automatic solution, such as apt-zip. |
| 07:45.38 | Azar | JoshTriplett: then you help him fix dependencies with mplayer |
| 07:45.40 | tarzeau | plutonas: because there's always a package you're missing. or a bug you don't want to fix yourself or work around |
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| 07:45.52 | tarzeau | plutonas: and #debian is such a friendly place where all your problems are solved |
| 07:45.59 | plutonas | :) |
| 07:46.00 | tarzeau | PPC|Sempron2800: you don't need to tell us |
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| 07:46.07 | PPC|Sempron2800 | im just bored |
| 07:46.14 | tarzeau | PPC|Sempron2800: play #nethack |
| 07:46.20 | plutonas | I have internet on my desktop, but don't want to add on my laptop |
| 07:46.20 | PPC|Sempron2800 | hmm.... |
| 07:46.22 | tarzeau | PPC|Sempron2800: no need to bore 700 people as well |
| 07:46.23 | Azar | ..get mplayer without an internet connection |
| 07:46.23 | JoshTriplett | plutonas: Another would be to use apt-get --print-uris. |
| 07:46.28 | tarzeau | PPC|Sempron2800: try www.thehun.net |
| 07:46.33 | PPC|Sempron2800 | 758 :P |
| 07:46.40 | tarzeau | PPC|Sempron2800: nitpicker |
| 07:46.52 | PPC|Sempron2800 | :P |
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| 07:48.52 | Azar | tarzeau: speaking of gnome/kde you seen the news? unified interface |
| 07:49.04 | JoshTriplett | Azar: You're four days late. |
| 07:49.14 | plutonas | unified interface? Do you have a link? |
| 07:49.27 | Azar | JoshTriplett: yes, is my first day off... just got to read the "old" news |
| 07:49.47 | Azar | plutonas: not yet, is just on the works, I guess in May will come out |
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| 07:50.12 | plutonas | I mean a link to the "news" WHere did you hear it? |
| 07:50.14 | JoshTriplett | Azar: I mean, you're four days late, April 1st was four days ago. |
| 07:50.23 | Azar | plutonas: ok holdon |
| 07:50.39 | bigmanalpha | I just did this "sudo apt-get install education..." how do i run the downloaded games? |
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| 07:51.07 | Azar | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39261429,00.htm |
| 07:51.21 | JoshTriplett | bigmanalpha: They should end up in the menu. Or from a command line you can run them by name; ls /usr/games to see all of them. |
| 07:51.40 | plutonas | thx Azar |
| 07:51.46 | bigmanalpha | JoshTriplett: What menu? |
| 07:52.14 | JoshTriplett | bigmanalpha: The menu of most of the graphical environments in Debian. |
| 07:52.23 | tarzeau | Azar: hahahah don't make me crack up laughing |
| 07:52.32 | Azar | :) |
| 07:52.36 | tarzeau | Azar: unified interface? do you believe even a word or letter of that? |
| 07:52.45 | tarzeau | Azar: crap stays crap |
| 07:53.03 | tarzeau | they don't even have a usable file selector |
| 07:53.09 | tarzeau | after so many years |
| 07:53.12 | tarzeau | haha |
| 07:53.23 | Azar | well in front of the terrible vista coming I guess the linux world tries to accomodate future refugees somehow |
| 07:53.34 | tarzeau | Azar: crap following crap |
| 07:54.00 | Azar | yep but you know what the good thing is? I get to stay gnome/kde-free at no cost |
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| 07:54.31 | tarzeau | Azar: you but i will as well |
| 07:54.40 | tarzeau | Azar: but i'd rather to see them go bankrupt and stop the shit |
| 07:54.49 | tarzeau | Azar: i'd have much less hassle supporting all that crap software |
| 07:54.53 | Azar | are they commercial ? |
| 07:54.54 | jenipapo2 | hi all |
| 07:55.01 | tarzeau | Azar: no |
| 07:55.33 | tarzeau | Azar: ok i hope they get married and have no more time for gnome/kde |
| 07:55.35 | Azar | tarzeau: I got to the conclusion that gui sucks generally speaking |
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| 07:56.18 | jenipapo2 | I try to use growisofs to save windows data on a DVD. even using -R -J growisofs says thats there something wrong about the filenames :( |
| 07:56.35 | jenipapo2 | is there a solution to fix that? |
| 07:56.38 | Fujoor | hey guys, ia simple question what do i have to type if i want to copy all, say, .doc files on the entire harddrive to the current directory im in? |
| 07:56.40 | jm_ | jenipapo: what exactly does it say? |
| 07:56.53 | Edward_TLS | jm_, how can I check if a pid uses nptl ? |
| 07:57.22 | Azar | all I got on my HD is occupying only 2% of its size: 80GB total |
| 07:57.39 | Azar | I think I could fit all in that $100 laptop |
| 07:58.11 | SonnyBurnett | is there any app like acdsee for winbugs besides gthumb? |
| 07:58.12 | jenipapo2 | jm_: :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=21h/ACQ=02h]: Invalid argument |
| 07:58.12 | jenipapo2 | :-( write failed: Invalid argument |
| 07:58.59 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: I don't think that's very easy to check |
| 07:59.10 | jm_ | jenipapo2: that's got nothing to do with files |
| 07:59.25 | Edward_TLS | jm_, it's not that if I use ps that it should show more childs... ? |
| 07:59.34 | tarzeau | Azar: i disagree |
| 07:59.41 | tarzeau | Azar: have you ever worked with OPENSTEP? |
| 07:59.41 | jenipapo2 | I supposed because the same command on a different directory works |
| 07:59.56 | Azar | tarzeau: no, /me googles |
| 08:00.00 | tarzeau | Azar: the consistency and power is very important |
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| 08:00.17 | tarzeau | Azar: check the links on openstep/next at livecd.gnustep.org |
| 08:00.39 | tarzeau | Azar: http://www120.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/intro.htmld/ that's a good one |
| 08:01.02 | Azar | wiki.. |
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| 08:01.20 | tarzeau | Azar: no wiki is not so good |
| 08:01.48 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: ps -L (or -T) shows threads |
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| 08:02.14 | Azar | now I got it :) hehe they were purchased by Apple Computer in 1997. |
| 08:02.27 | Azar | say apple: say quality graphics |
| 08:02.30 | tarzeau | Azar: kinda. but apple fucked up |
| 08:02.41 | Edward_TLS | jm_, true.... only not sure if it's nptl still... |
| 08:02.42 | tarzeau | Azar: i prefer OPENSTEP way much better over Mac OS X |
| 08:02.48 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: indeed |
| 08:02.48 | tarzeau | Azar: but check GNUstep |
| 08:02.54 | Azar | tarzeau: ok |
| 08:03.30 | tarzeau | Azar: the workspace managers and no web browser is really sucky. as well as the lack of software generally (like an office suite). that is all available for openstep |
| 08:03.40 | tarzeau | Azar: in quality way ahead of openoffice |
| 08:03.41 | jm_ | jenipapo: does it report any other errors prior to that? try generating an ISO image with mkisofs with those files to see if that part works |
| 08:03.43 | Edward_TLS | jm_, on the suse machine i do see them with ps faux |
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| 08:03.57 | jenipapo2 | jm_: you are right: nothing to do with filenames |
| 08:04.08 | tarzeau | Azar: i know a few offices that still use openstep productively (for development and consulting (plans)) |
| 08:04.22 | tarzeau | Azar: if you know the unix history of levenez, it's as well done on that os |
| 08:04.47 | tarzeau | Azar: if that stupid crap of debian new queue is processed, i can hopefully make a new gnustep live cd |
| 08:04.56 | tarzeau | Azar: i'm waiting since over 2 months for it now |
| 08:04.58 | Azar | tarzeau: sounds like a very nice, open and independent application |
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| 08:05.10 | tarzeau | Azar: very portable, yes, and not so cumbersome to use |
| 08:05.29 | tarzeau | Azar: also very elegant for the developer |
| 08:05.40 | Azar | hehe can't wait to see it in Debian |
| 08:05.53 | tarzeau | Azar: gnustep is in debian... sarge stuff is old, but works good. |
| 08:05.58 | tarzeau | however i suggest the stuff from sid |
| 08:06.09 | tarzeau | the new Cynthiune.app is very great |
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| 08:06.47 | boguh | where can i get the kernel source for my kernel? |
| 08:06.55 | tarzeau | boguh: what is your kernel? |
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| 08:07.06 | tarzeau | boguh: check /usr/share/doc/PACKAGE/copyright |
| 08:07.10 | Azar | tarzeau: I guess I will have to hook my spare PC and start playing with Sid |
| 08:07.23 | boguh | tarzeau 2.6.15-1-486 |
| 08:07.44 | tarzeau | boguh: it's a 486 machine? |
| 08:07.57 | Azar | woohoo! 486! |
| 08:08.12 | boguh | i used debian etch installer |
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| 08:09.54 | boguh | so i did smoething wrong? |
| 08:10.05 | tarzeau | boguh: no that's fine |
| 08:10.12 | tarzeau | boguh: but what do you have now? etch or sid? |
| 08:10.23 | boguh | etch |
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| 08:10.41 | tarzeau | boguh: did you apt-caceh search linux source 2.6.15 yet? |
| 08:10.48 | boguh | i did |
| 08:10.51 | Azar | good night honorables :) |
| 08:10.52 | tarzeau | what did it say? |
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| 08:11.49 | boguh | think i found sth |
| 08:11.50 | davut | hi |
| 08:11.59 | davut | I installed gcc-3.4 via apt |
| 08:12.09 | davut | and now I wanna use gcc-3.4 not 3.3.5 |
| 08:12.13 | davut | wat should I do |
| 08:12.36 | davut | is there a package called gcc-config or somethiing like it |
| 08:12.38 | jbrouhard | Okay guys.. need some MAJOR help here ;( |
| 08:13.37 | menko | hey does anyone know how to set the sysv files back to the defaults? When I try to reboot, my keyboard just stops working and it doesn't reboot.. |
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| 08:13.51 | jm_ | sysv files? |
| 08:13.51 | jbrouhard | Trying to install Debian on some older hardware with a PERC/2 RAID controller |
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| 08:13.56 | jbrouhard | when I reboot, I get GRUB Error 18 |
| 08:14.07 | menko | jm_: the ones in /etc/rc* |
| 08:14.21 | jbrouhard | I'm told I should boot the Debian desk and type linux root=/dev/sda1 (which according to the set up, is where / was installed) |
| 08:14.22 | menko | jm_: not sure what they're called.. hehe |
| 08:14.35 | jm_ | menko: grep for update-rc.d commands in postinst files for packages and run them again |
| 08:15.19 | menko | where are the postinst files? |
| 08:15.31 | jm_ | /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 08:15.43 | menko | cool, thanks, I'll take a look |
| 08:15.51 | davut | hi |
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| 08:15.53 | davut | I installed gcc-3.4 via apt |
| 08:15.58 | davut | and now I wanna use gcc-3.4 not 3.3.5 |
| 08:16.00 | davut | wat should I do |
| 08:16.53 | Overand | What am I doing wrong that this is producing output and just being weird? if ["`ps -ef|grep pisg`"]; then exit 0; else echo 'Woo.'; fi |
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| 08:19.41 | jm_ | 1. why do you think it should not produce output? 2. you can use exit code to find out if grep worked or not, 3. it might find grep itself |
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| 08:21.01 | Overand | jm_: apparently the use of ["` .. around the command to run was unneccesary |
| 08:21.15 | Overand | so i've got it working, apparently. |
| 08:21.24 | fireba11 | anything special i have to keep in mind if i want to re-mount / read only ? |
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| 08:21.35 | jm_ | Overand: indeed |
| 08:22.43 | sep | [UPGRADE] gconf2 2.12.1-12 -> 2.14.0-1 was a darn unpleasant experience. lets hope there comes a new package into etch soon. strange they allow it to filter in from sid. how broken must a packaeg be for it not to go into etch from sid ? |
| 08:23.06 | jm_ | sep: rc bugs I think |
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| 08:26.42 | hrw|work | one question: does 'sid' goes to gcc 4.1? libwine 0.9.10-1 depends on libgcc1/4.1.0 kdelibs-bin depends on libstdc++6/4.1.0 |
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| 08:26.52 | JoshTriplett | davut: If you want to use gcc-3.4, run gcc-3.4 rather than just "gcc". |
| 08:27.09 | JoshTriplett | hrw|work: libgcc1 has moved to the gcc-4.1 version. |
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| 08:27.21 | JoshTriplett | hrw|work: The default "gcc" hasn't. |
| 08:27.27 | Loady | guys, what package contains mysql.h? |
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| 08:27.46 | hrw|work | JoshTriplett: thx - wanted to know that this is official and not devel error |
| 08:27.57 | JoshTriplett | hrw|work: Right; that happens sometimes. :) |
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| 08:28.05 | outlaw84 | I am looking for a database management tool that works with mssql, any tips? |
| 08:28.44 | jm_ | !tell Loady -about search |
| 08:28.54 | JoshTriplett | Loady: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=mysql.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
| 08:29.01 | tarzeau | Loady: some mysql dev pkg |
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| 08:29.26 | hrw|work | outlaw84: mysql-query-browser |
| 08:29.52 | hrw|work | Loady: libmysqlclient15-dev? |
| 08:29.53 | JoshTriplett | outlaw84: Do you mean SQL Server or did you typo "mysql"? |
| 08:30.21 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 08:30.31 | Loady | thanks a bunch :) |
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| 08:30.52 | outlaw84 | JoshTriplett: I mean Microsoft SQL server |
| 08:31.11 | outlaw84 | i didn't wanto curse in here :D |
| 08:31.34 | jm_ | sqsh should work |
| 08:32.57 | eeyore- | outlaw84: what do you mean by 'management tool'? why not use ODBC driver? |
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| 08:33.46 | fluxdude | why does man mount not show the availability of an option maxsize for ramfs, but I've seen it used in practice... |
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| 08:35.10 | xota | buenas, 2 preguntas |
| 08:35.40 | JoshTriplett | xota: #debian-es ? |
| 08:35.52 | eeyore- | fluxdude: did you check kernel source to be sure it actually matters? |
| 08:36.09 | outlaw84 | eeyore-: a tool gui tool where I can view tables and stuff |
| 08:36.30 | xota | excuse JoshTriplett i mistake ;p |
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| 08:36.43 | JoshTriplett | xota: Not a problem. :) |
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| 08:38.14 | JoshTriplett | outlaw84: You could try the OO.o database tool, or a tool based on freetds or ODBC. |
| 08:38.22 | JoshTriplett | s/a/another/ |
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| 08:38.47 | xota | two questions: 1) how can i install openldap with secure authentication cyrus-sasl? i saw about enovell directory, what is recommendable? |
| 08:39.12 | xota | 2) can i configure chillispot to local network only? not to internet? |
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| 08:42.16 | MishMash | I'm trying to build an custom debian install with an 2.6.16 kernel and extra modules. I've found an manual to do this but i'm running into some problems |
| 08:42.43 | MishMash | In the manual, it says the following: fakeroot debian/rules binary |
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| 08:42.55 | MishMash | but this stops with an error: |
| 08:43.04 | MishMash | debian:/installer/linux-kernel-di-i386-2.6-1.02# fakeroot debian/rules binary |
| 08:43.04 | MishMash | debian/rules:2: /usr/share/kernel-wedge/generic-rules: No such file or directory |
| 08:43.04 | MishMash | make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/share/kernel-wedge/generic-rules'. Stop. |
| 08:43.12 | JoshTriplett | Don't paste in the channel. |
| 08:43.21 | MishMash | it's just a few lines |
| 08:43.42 | JoshTriplett | That sounds like either a bug in d-i or a missing build-dep, probably the latter. |
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| 08:44.05 | MishMash | d-i = debianinstaller? |
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| 08:44.09 | JoshTriplett | Yes. |
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| 08:44.30 | MishMash | I don't think i have that package, it hasn't been mentioned here in the manual |
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| 08:44.47 | JoshTriplett | MishMash: You're building a package that forms part of d-i. |
| 08:44.56 | MishMash | hmm |
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| 08:45.15 | JoshTriplett | MishMash: I'm suggesting that either that package has a bug or you are missing some package you need to build it.. |
| 08:45.15 | MishMash | Can i get debianinstaller trough apt-get? |
| 08:45.21 | jm_ | no |
| 08:45.25 | JoshTriplett | No, though you can get the source. |
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| 08:45.37 | jm_ | d-i web page explains all the details about making custom CD-s |
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| 08:45.49 | JoshTriplett | jm_: I think he's following those instructions., |
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| 08:46.04 | jm_ | JoshTriplett: how come he doesn't know what d-i is then? |
| 08:46.27 | JoshTriplett | Good question. :) |
| 08:46.31 | SonnyBurnett | do I need gnupg and gnupg2 pkgs installed or just one of them? |
| 08:46.36 | MishMash | huge.cajones.org/~dick/debian/custom_installer.pdf |
| 08:46.39 | MishMash | that's my manual |
| 08:47.06 | JoshTriplett | SonnyBurnett: You should have at least gnupg installed; you may or may not also want gnupg2. |
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| 08:49.04 | gilianima | is there a bash command to get the result of 2*5 ? |
| 08:49.12 | jm_ | yes |
| 08:49.29 | JoshTriplett | gilianima: Several. |
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| 08:50.09 | JoshTriplett | gilianima: You likely want $((2*5)) |
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| 08:50.33 | louisdk | How I update for stable to testing or unstable? |
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| 08:51.45 | Cardiba | Hello. Can I install debian on an existing partition with data on it? |
| 08:53.56 | Cardiba | (Because I got over 100gb of data that I cannot backup, and that are unforunately on the same parititon as the system parition. Re-paritionizing would take too long I think. :) |
| 08:53.59 | SonnyBurnett | Which is the lenght recommended for a DSA PGP key? |
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| 08:54.39 | kozmic_ | Cardiba: no you cant. need to repartition |
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| 08:54.48 | jm_ | Cardiba: yes, debootstrap installation should take care of it |
| 08:55.22 | Cardiba | jm_: Ok. Means I need to install it manually? |
| 08:55.49 | Cardiba | Or is this debootstrap that graphicalfrontend to the installation? |
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| 08:56.24 | Gumby | has anyone ever seen a system clock that runs 2-3 times faster than normal? and can anyone suggest why it might do this? |
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| 08:56.46 | Cardiba | Gumby: Battery going empty? Might cause problems .. |
| 08:56.48 | bkankur_ | how to stop the iptables in debian ? |
| 08:57.08 | Gumby | Cardiba: hrm, its a laptop that is 2 months old |
| 08:57.10 | Gumby | hehe |
| 08:58.07 | Cardiba | Oh wait, you mean system clock. Never mind. |
| 08:58.53 | Gumby | yeah, ie: watching the seconds tick in kde shows the seconds going 2 to 3 seconds faster than what they should |
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| 08:59.15 | Cardiba | Well. Ill try to install it. :) Thanks anyway. |
| 08:59.29 | Gumby | woah, now the time is going backwards |
| 08:59.30 | Gumby | lmao |
| 08:59.46 | Gumby | something is majorly messed up |
| 08:59.55 | SonnyBurnett | Which is the recommended length for a the ELG key (pgp)? 2048 bits? |
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| 09:00.49 | frood | hey all |
| 09:01.04 | frood | does anyone have any experience setting up an NTP server? |
| 09:01.25 | bkankur_ | is there any command similar to service iptables stop in redhat.. |
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| 09:02.08 | tarzeau | streuner_: mach ma was auf weda.mine.nu |
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| 09:04.37 | squid0 | hi |
| 09:04.38 | Kovecses | is debian etch safe to use as a desktop? |
| 09:04.54 | squid0 | has anyone has any luck connecting via usb to a samsung d600 phone? |
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| 09:05.11 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 09:05.15 | Kovecses | hi |
| 09:05.29 | eleftherios | Kovecses, I used to have etch on my desktop without any major problems ever |
| 09:05.32 | tengulre | how to add modules when boot time! |
| 09:06.58 | Kovecses | tengulre: /etc/modules\ |
| 09:07.01 | Kovecses | tengulre: /etc/modules |
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| 09:07.37 | tengulre | Kovecses, :D Thanks!! |
| 09:08.10 | Kovecses | tengulre: /etc/modules is a text file... it loads modules in order that you place them |
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| 09:09.30 | Kovecses | eleftherios: well. is it better to run etch or sid in your opinion |
| 09:09.33 | Kovecses | ? |
| 09:10.03 | fireba11 | use sid |
| 09:10.29 | liable | hrm, kpkg pukes on no menu.lst |
| 09:10.30 | fireba11 | at least for productive systems ^^ |
| 09:10.42 | liable | or the .deb i should say.. |
| 09:11.03 | Kovecses | fireba11: well.. what do you mean by productive? |
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| 09:11.09 | debora | plña |
| 09:11.11 | debora | opla |
| 09:11.18 | debora | tyj |
| 09:11.23 | debora | ola |
| 09:11.23 | sparr | Is there any way to get my HPT372N ide raid controller to work without downloading the kernel source, patching the hpt366 driver, recompiling? |
| 09:11.24 | debora | ola |
| 09:11.28 | debora | how |
| 09:11.31 | fireba11 | Kovecses: everything ou can't affort to miss a couple hours because of some broken package :-D |
| 09:11.45 | debora | çhowmy god!! |
| 09:11.53 | debora | hello |
| 09:11.55 | debora | hello |
| 09:12.01 | liable | sparr: not likely if its a patch |
| 09:12.02 | debora | im debora |
| 09:12.04 | Kovecses | fireba11: so your saying there is MORE broken packeges is etch? |
| 09:12.05 | debora | and your |
| 09:12.07 | debora | ?? |
| 09:12.08 | jengelh | sparr: unless it's already present as a compiled module (check that), you won't get around to download |
| 09:12.17 | fireba11 | Kovecses: i never found a broken package in sid |
| 09:12.19 | debora | ok bye |
| 09:12.26 | debora | kis jjeejje |
| 09:12.29 | unlearn | is etch better than sarge? |
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| 09:12.40 | Kovecses | fireba11: lol how long have you been using sid? |
| 09:12.46 | unlearn | and can i upgrade to it from sarge? |
| 09:12.56 | Kovecses | sarge is great |
| 09:12.57 | fireba11 | also, etch isn't getting security updates untill it's considdered stable, which might be around december |
| 09:13.08 | liable | huh? |
| 09:13.09 | unlearn | k |
| 09:13.27 | Kovecses | and sid gets security upgrades lol\ |
| 09:13.51 | Kovecses | etch gets security updates now btw |
| 09:14.04 | priscila | afaik sid doesnt get security updates |
| 09:14.18 | fluxdude | I'm trying to set up a blank rsh login for a user on a machine, but it says permission denied, I know I shouldn't be doing this but it's neccessary and I don't know anything about rsh, some help? |
| 09:14.24 | fireba11 | Kovecses: last time i checked etch took a while fot those sometimes ... |
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| 09:14.38 | Kovecses | it has a security repo... which downloads updates for me from time to time? |
| 09:14.59 | sparr | I want to compile my own kernel, but starting from what I would get with a linux-image. I know I can get linux-headers-2.6.16-1-k7 and use the kernel config from that, but what about debian patches? |
| 09:15.43 | Kovecses | sparr: you wont need headers if you compile |
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| 09:15.48 | fireba11 | sparr should be included since it's the debian package ... but why you want to build your own ? |
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| 09:16.43 | sparr | Kovecses: i need headers to get the config |
| 09:16.46 | Kovecses | a custom kernel (if you know your hardware inside and out) will be better than a debain kernel |
| 09:16.48 | sparr | fireba11: i have to patch a driver |
| 09:16.50 | priscila | Kovecses: i'm wondering how sid can has security updates if it has many bugs and is instable |
| 09:16.58 | tengulre | hi Kovecses, do you know why have not people to update debian's website(http://www.debian.org), I m feel the website is ugly! |
| 09:17.05 | tralala | we should really have a #debian-kernel-do-it-yourself channel since there are so many people who love to compile |
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| 09:17.21 | Kovecses | priscila: sid is unstable |
| 09:17.27 | sparr | tengulre: well, youre wrong. it looks great. |
| 09:17.45 | sparr | tralala: i hate to compile. i use linux-image 99% of the time, but now i have to patch a kernel driver for my ide controller |
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| 09:18.23 | jengelh | sparr: hah. that's nothing. I recompile everything because I want another distro. |
| 09:18.41 | tengulre | sparr: do you know http://www.freebsd.org? |
| 09:18.43 | tralala | sparr: so why don't you just patch the source and use make-kpkg to compile it? |
| 09:18.57 | fireba11 | jengelh: if you want everything to be compiled without need use ubuntu :-) |
| 09:19.04 | tengulre | sparr, I think the freebsd is better then debian, and u? |
| 09:19.12 | jengelh | fireba1: I do not want ubuntu nor gentoo. |
| 09:19.24 | tengulre | sparr, I m only point website! :) |
| 09:19.52 | Kovecses | tengulre: freebsd is great.... but debian is better |
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| 09:20.07 | sparr | tralala: thats the plan |
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| 09:20.36 | sparr | tengulre: i like both. the freebsd one wastes a lot of space though |
| 09:20.41 | priscila | Kovecses: yes, and if it is unstable, this means its mutable, and how mantainers can do security updates for unstable packages? |
| 09:20.47 | tralala | sparr: go ahed then, it should be fine |
| 09:21.05 | sparr | tralala: err, so why did you ask? |
| 09:21.38 | Kovecses | priscila: what? ... freebsd is just as unstable as sid.... imho |
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| 09:22.11 | jengelh | Hm, how can I reinstall the 'perl' package? (I deleted a file...) |
| 09:22.23 | Kovecses | and linux has drivers that freebsd doesnt\ |
| 09:22.41 | jengelh | :x |
| 09:22.42 | streuner_ | jengelh: apt-get --reinstall install <package> |
| 09:22.46 | jengelh | !reinstall |
| 09:22.46 | dpkg | from memory, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 09:22.51 | tralala | sparr: because you seemed to have a rather confusing plan including the kernel headers, the debian patches... and who knows what else |
| 09:22.52 | priscila | Kovecses: but freebsd hasnt many realeases like debian has |
| 09:23.07 | streuner_ | this factoid is for reinstall *everything* |
| 09:23.16 | jengelh | nope... |
| 09:23.20 | jengelh | apt-get -y --reinstall install perl |
| 09:23.24 | jengelh | just did what i want |
| 09:23.41 | sparr | tralala: i need the kernel headers to get the kernel config that matches my kernel. and i assumed the debian patches would be important, otherwise they wouldnt exist |
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| 09:23.54 | streuner_ | jengelh: you know what a *factoid* is? |
| 09:24.01 | tralala | sparr: they are included in the linux-source package |
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| 09:24.26 | sparr | tralala: ok, so then i just need -source and -headers |
| 09:24.51 | jengelh | streuner_ : lol |
| 09:24.53 | tralala | sparr: the config is also found in the linux-image package |
| 09:25.10 | sparr | tralala: hmm, where? |
| 09:25.18 | tralala | /boot/config-version |
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| 09:26.07 | escalade | hi i have some questions about java, someone knows a good channel for questions? |
| 09:26.15 | eeyore- | sparr: debian patches its kernel fairly lightly |
| 09:26.15 | jengelh | #java |
| 09:26.25 | escalade | jengelh: on server? |
| 09:27.09 | jengelh | just try blind |
| 09:27.35 | blondie | idiot |
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| 09:28.06 | blafd | lol |
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| 09:29.15 | tralala | #debian is such a great place to ask any type of questions... |
| 09:29.40 | tralala | because the people here are "smart heads" |
| 09:30.00 | blafd | how many bits can be adress in msdos again |
| 09:30.04 | jm_ | or because you're not supposed to tell them to screw off ot #foo |
| 09:30.08 | blafd | jk. |
| 09:30.09 | jengelh | Just imagine what would be if 95% or more of all users were not smart heads. |
| 09:30.11 | jm_ | to even |
| 09:30.21 | bbrazil | blafd: which version ;) |
| 09:30.23 | eeyore- | blafd: is that a trick question? |
| 09:30.34 | jengelh | blafd: 1 MB, with EMS/XMS extenders a little more |
| 09:30.44 | blafd | woot |
| 09:31.00 | tralala | jengelh: perhaps it would be like #ubuntu |
| 09:31.06 | jengelh | :D |
| 09:31.39 | jengelh | actually, it is a trick(y) question |
| 09:31.58 | jengelh | It's not quite known. |
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| 09:32.12 | ESPOiG | i dont even know wat he said :P |
| 09:32.16 | ESPOiG | besides msdos :P |
| 09:32.25 | jengelh | It's a BIOS call which returns 640K, so you can't blame DOS. |
| 09:32.36 | jengelh | It's the machine architecture that supports at most 1 MB (in compat mode), so you can't blame DOS. |
| 09:32.45 | jengelh | You can use more with EMS/XMS, so you can't blame DOS. |
| 09:32.49 | eeyore- | jengelh: of course you can (blame dos) |
| 09:33.03 | tralala | I Blame Microsoft (IBM) |
| 09:33.04 | jengelh | Patch your bios to return 2 megs instead of the 640K and you see Dos go good :) |
| 09:33.20 | eeyore- | jengelh: no you can't :-) you're still in real mode |
| 09:33.25 | jengelh | uh |
| 09:33.30 | blafd | wow i wish i could of done that back when i was first starting out jengelh |
| 09:33.33 | jengelh | Flash the BIOS using an EPROM writer, of course. |
| 09:33.50 | blafd | ah you see ;) |
| 09:33.54 | tralala | eeyore-: this mode would be much more appropriately called "unreal" nowadays |
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| 09:34.45 | jengelh | Where can I buy SCA harddisks? |
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| 09:35.12 | omal | is anyone here using libcaca in debian with SDL? |
| 09:35.14 | eeyore- | jengelh: CDW? |
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| 09:35.31 | siimo | is anyone here runnking amd64 debian branch |
| 09:35.38 | omal | i'm trying to decide if apt-get is capable of making this happen cleanly, or if i want to just grab SDL source |
| 09:35.45 | streuner_ | siimo: /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 09:35.50 | azeem | siimo: if you have a question about that, just ask |
| 09:35.53 | eeyore- | jengelh: expensive ... |
| 09:36.15 | eeyore- | nope, not debian |
| 09:36.20 | siimo | i was wondering if kde is broken on etch in amd64 arch |
| 09:36.25 | streuner_ | azeem: since when is #debian-amd64 dead? :-) |
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| 09:36.43 | lehel | hello |
| 09:36.49 | azeem | streuner_: is it? |
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| 09:37.16 | azeem | it's fine to ask in either chan, IMHO |
| 09:37.32 | streuner_ | 77 nicks |
| 09:37.46 | blondie | streuner_: you do that then |
| 09:37.49 | tralala | siimo: check the bts first |
| 09:37.51 | azeem | the folks in #debian-amd64 are probably still more of the developer kind and might ignore general Debian user question to some extent |
| 09:37.57 | siimo | i get missing packages when i try to apt-get kde or even gnome |
| 09:38.00 | streuner_ | blondie: heh? |
| 09:38.10 | blondie | streuner_: you used /me for some reason :) |
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| 09:38.36 | omal | hm, guess not |
| 09:38.38 | streuner_ | azeem: LSorensen is there, and he usually answer every question |
| 09:38.42 | streuner_ | besides others |
| 09:38.53 | siimo | what is bts |
| 09:39.02 | blondie | bts is the plural of bt |
| 09:39.08 | tralala | !tell siimo -about bts |
| 09:39.09 | streuner_ | !bts |
| 09:39.10 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 09:39.14 | azeem | streuner_: ok, cool |
| 09:39.25 | azeem | they will have to get used to get more and more users I guess |
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| 09:40.50 | streuner_ | siimo: KDE and GNOME are big packages and they used to break in debian easily... |
| 09:41.06 | siimo | yeah but i thought it might be fine in testing branch |
| 09:41.15 | siimo | already tried 2 different mirrors too |
| 09:41.34 | streuner_ | siimo: (that doesn't mean i know the answer for your question...) |
| 09:41.48 | azeem | siimo: sometimes, one of their components have to be pulled from testing for various reasons |
| 09:41.52 | azeem | which breaks the meta-packages |
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| 09:42.07 | streuner_ | siimo: so just install konqueror and so on... |
| 09:42.13 | yam | cannot get 'file' command to recognize ms office documents, is it a normal behaviour? |
| 09:42.14 | azeem | identify that package, and install all the others the meta-package depends on by hand with apt-get |
| 09:42.22 | squid0 | has anyone had any experience in connecting to a Samsung D600 phone via usb? |
| 09:42.25 | siimo | yeah i tried to install kdebase and it still says cant because of something else missing |
| 09:42.26 | lehel | i want to install the xterminal, i got the deb package, i cant "dpkg" > missing the libexo-1 package, where i could found that? |
| 09:42.40 | azeem | siimo: "something else" is way too vague |
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| 09:42.48 | azeem | for anybody to help you, if you seek that |
| 09:43.23 | streuner_ | Isn't #debian-kde the right place for this answer? |
| 09:43.41 | streuner_ | or doesn't they make the packages for amd64 too? |
| 09:43.56 | lehel | streuner_: are you talking to me? |
| 09:44.00 | streuner_ | no |
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| 09:44.29 | siimo | lehel, why arent you using apt? |
| 09:45.03 | lehel | siimo: what deb http should i add in apt/sources.list ? |
| 09:45.23 | siimo | whats xterminal? |
| 09:45.28 | lehel | yes |
| 09:45.36 | lehel | and i want to put tuxcmd too |
| 09:45.42 | siimo | no i mean what is it |
| 09:45.57 | lehel | it's an X console |
| 09:46.00 | lehel | a terminal |
| 09:46.01 | siimo | is that xterm |
| 09:46.03 | lehel | like xterm |
| 09:46.13 | lehel | it's like |
| 09:46.28 | lehel | it's isn't in the debian packages |
| 09:46.28 | siimo | this is XFCE ? |
| 09:46.38 | lehel | "this" ? |
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| 09:46.52 | siimo | xterminal package |
| 09:46.58 | siimo | http://www.os-works.com/view/debian/packages/xterminal/ |
| 09:47.15 | lehel | siimo: could be, i don't know.. that was my question |
| 09:47.32 | lehel | so i need to add in the apt/sources os-works |
| 09:48.01 | sparr | why isnt there a tool to look at your hardware and pick the kernel options that you require? |
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| 09:48.52 | fluxdude | I need help with mount -t ramfs, there doesn't seem to be a way of constraining the size of the ramdisk, it could chew up all the mem and screw the linux machine so you can't even log in! |
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| 09:49.44 | GarethAdams|Work | how do I echo something to stderr |
| 09:50.12 | resiak | fluxdude: http://www.linuxfocus.org/common/src/article210/linux.ac_Documentation_filesystems_ramfs.txt.html # I accuse `man mount` of needing an update ;) |
| 09:50.54 | GarethAdams|Work | i've got a cron script redirecting stdout and stderr to different files and I want to add my own statements to each log |
| 09:51.36 | tralala | GarethAdams|Work: echo something >&2 |
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| 09:52.42 | SQL_Error | hello |
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| 09:53.30 | doub | hi there |
| 09:55.05 | SQL_Error | has anybody tried debian on the fiutsu siemens amilo si 1520 |
| 09:55.05 | SQL_Error | ? |
| 09:55.05 | liable | !laptop |
| 09:55.05 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 09:55.06 | SQL_Error | ah thanks |
| 09:55.56 | fluxdude | resiak: I don't think you can limit the ramfs, I did: |
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| 09:56.09 | fluxdude | mount -t ramfs none /mnt/ram -o mazsize=50 |
| 09:56.13 | fluxdude | then I did dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/ram/test bs=1024 count=100000000 and it chewed up all the ram and made the system inaccessible! |
| 09:56.44 | SQL_Error | no article about that notebook anywhere |
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| 09:56.54 | SQL_Error | maybe it is too new |
| 09:56.56 | SQL_Error | ? |
| 09:57.03 | mr_claus | i cannot access my lvm2 devices with user backup, the user is in group disk and i have set the permissions of /dev/mapper/* |
| 09:57.07 | liable | possibly |
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| 09:57.16 | fluxdude | resiak: it chewed up all 256Megs of ram and boned the system, even ssh doesn't work now... |
| 09:57.23 | resiak | fluxdude: |/ |
| 09:57.26 | resiak | erm... |
| 09:57.28 | resiak | fluxdude: :-/ |
| 09:57.30 | resiak | reportbug!" |
| 09:57.58 | streuner_ | azeem: i get no answer there... |
| 09:58.14 | streuner_ | azeem: about sid, but not about etch... |
| 09:58.37 | mr_claus | dd: opening `/dev/mapper/vgrp1-dom0--usr': Permission denied |
| 09:58.49 | mr_claus | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 254, 1 2006-03-19 16:35 vgrp1-dom0--usr |
| 09:59.00 | azeem | streuner_: AIUI, testing got officially switched on for amd64 only very recently |
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| 09:59.44 | liable | mr_claus: is there a backup group and is user in it? btw having someone in disk group isnt a good idea |
| 09:59.46 | davi__ | What package install to compile an XFree86 application ? |
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| 09:59.57 | streuner_ | xlibs-dev |
| 10:00.07 | davi__ | thanks streuner_ |
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| 10:01.42 | lehel | hey.. how do i found out about a package where could i find it? ex.: libexo0.3-0 |
| 10:01.45 | mr_claus | liable: there is a backup group and the user backup is in there |
| 10:01.56 | lehel | ups |
| 10:02.01 | lehel | sorry.. found it |
| 10:02.02 | mr_claus | liable: the problem is that libdevmapper1 create the devices with 600 and root:root |
| 10:02.14 | mr_claus | liable: so i have to reset is with the startup of the system |
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| 10:02.32 | mr_claus | liable: what you would prefer? changing the group to backup? |
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| 10:03.42 | d4t2ilL4 | hi guys is it possible to rsync linux to a windows machine? |
| 10:03.47 | liable | mr_claus: nm, i was thinking something different to what you said. |
| 10:04.48 | ifvoid | d4t2ilL4: sure, provided that youhave rsync on windows |
| 10:04.58 | ifvoid | d4t2ilL4: should be possible with cygwin or so |
| 10:05.59 | d4t2ilL4 | ahh okie |
| 10:06.19 | d4t2ilL4 | ifvoid, thanks |
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| 10:10.45 | d4t2ilL4 | ifvoid, there's rsync for windows |
| 10:11.05 | petemc | d4t2ilL4: or you could use cygwin, it works for me |
| 10:12.07 | d4t2ilL4 | whats a better way to backup ur server? |
| 10:12.12 | d4t2ilL4 | beside tapes ? |
| 10:13.02 | blondie | you could use harddisks |
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| 10:13.54 | d4t2ilL4 | hmm, looks like its rsync |
| 10:16.03 | tarzeau | has someone made good experiences with graveman on linux 2.6 w/ sarge? |
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| 10:17.39 | davi__ | Why libxkbui1 conflicts with xlibs-static-dev (<< 6.8.1-0ubuntu1) ? !! |
| 10:17.50 | jm_ | ask #ubuntu |
| 10:18.17 | lehe1 | who's gonna tell me a cool X console? |
| 10:18.20 | yam | should sarge libmagic properly recognize ms office documents (word, powerpoint , ...) |
| 10:18.20 | yam | ? |
| 10:18.31 | jm_ | yam: it recognizes them for me |
| 10:18.34 | davi__ | jm_, Maybe this host has an X system packaged by ubuntu ? |
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| 10:18.48 | yam | jm_: weird, I some servers, and none of them do |
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| 10:18.58 | jm_ | davi__: yes, so they will be able to help with it, not #debian |
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| 10:19.11 | yam | jm_: any specific action to do? been reading about file and libmagic and all seems ok |
| 10:19.16 | jm_ | yam: maybe related to the version of the Office the documents were made with? |
| 10:19.30 | davi__ | thanks jm_ |
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| 10:20.36 | liable | davi__: there are some debian packages that have ubuntu in the version name. |
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| 10:21.24 | jm_ | liable: like? |
| 10:21.39 | yam | jm_: well, the ones I'm testing are office 2000 documents |
| 10:21.53 | jm_ | yam: no idea what mine are, it says Word 97-2003 |
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| 10:22.23 | yam | jm_: but anyway, I have tested with office97, office2000 and office xp documents |
| 10:22.25 | liable | jm_: grep ubuntu /var/lib/dpkg/available (on sid anyway) |
| 10:22.34 | jm_ | liable: yeah I am asking because I don't use sid |
| 10:22.40 | yam | having no success at all, 'file' cmd always says they are application/msword |
| 10:22.47 | TipTap | hey guys, i was wondering what package would contain execvp as currently i don't have it on my system |
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| 10:23.05 | ifvoid | TipTap: ? |
| 10:23.06 | jm_ | execvp is a system call |
| 10:23.12 | ifvoid | TipTap: isn't that just a libc call? |
| 10:23.17 | tarzeau | TipTap: man execvp, it's not a binary |
| 10:23.19 | liable | jm_: mostly x shits and java-common |
| 10:23.29 | yam | jm_: if you type at shell prompt # file sample.ppt, what does it return? |
| 10:23.40 | TipTap | i thought it would be, but it says execvp: No such file or directory |
| 10:23.50 | TipTap | when starting nrpe |
| 10:24.12 | tarzeau | TipTap: what's nrpe? |
| 10:24.22 | jm_ | liable: just checked it for libxkbui1 and it does |
| 10:24.26 | TipTap | nagios monitoring daemon, (snmp) |
| 10:24.37 | jm_ | yam: Microsoft Office Document |
| 10:24.46 | jm_ | davi: so that means check BTS |
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| 10:24.55 | yam | jm_: and hwat if the command is # file -i sample.ppt |
| 10:25.06 | jm_ | yam: application/msword |
| 10:25.13 | yam | ah ok |
| 10:25.17 | yam | same bahaviour here |
| 10:25.24 | yam | it should say application/mspowerpoint, shouldnt it? |
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| 10:27.01 | jm_ | yam: /usr/share/misc/file/magic.mime only knows msword |
| 10:27.04 | TipTap | hmm it's something to do with the way the daemon is started, weird.. not to worry will suss out what's going on thanks |
| 10:27.39 | jm_ | yam: actually no, it knows Excel too, but not PowerPoint |
| 10:28.00 | jm_ | TipTop: it will tell you the error if it's worth shit ;) |
| 10:28.16 | yam | jm_: check with an excel, same thing # file -i sample.xls |
| 10:28.20 | yam | returns application/msword |
| 10:28.25 | jm_ | TipTop: ahh no such file, strace it to see what it's executing |
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| 10:28.47 | jm_ | yam: yes, it's probably outdated or has wrong order to check for things, not familiar with the details |
| 10:29.52 | jm_ | although one could think it uses best-match |
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| 10:30.29 | yam | been trying to find more info about this, but no success at all |
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| 10:30.55 | jm_ | I would first try it with a new version of file |
| 10:31.13 | yam | jm_: well yes... but that is supposedly last version |
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| 10:31.18 | yam | no updates available |
| 10:31.28 | jm_ | yam: what about libmagic? |
| 10:31.52 | yam | latest installed |
| 10:32.03 | yam | man magic.mime |
| 10:32.21 | jm_ | are you using Sarge? |
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| 10:33.20 | yam | jm_: yes.. sarge |
| 10:33.33 | jm_ | yam: then you don't have the latest version |
| 10:33.54 | yam | latest stable version |
| 10:34.07 | jm_ | yeah, but Etch has newer one and I would test that first |
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| 10:37.42 | petykooo | hi |
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| 10:37.51 | petykooo | i have problem with some USB device |
| 10:38.00 | petykooo | e.g. USB dongles |
| 10:38.07 | petykooo | and usbnet cables |
| 10:38.13 | Edward_TLS | if I cat /proc/<pid>/status I get "Threads: 111" so this mean this pid had 111 treads... ? |
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| 10:38.28 | petykooo | kernel detects everything, but i hava no interfaces |
| 10:38.42 | petykooo | no bnep0 and usb0 |
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| 10:41.46 | liable | petykooo: what kernel and what devices? and what does dmesg say? |
| 10:41.49 | RainbowW | is it possible to get sa-learn (spamassassin) to read maildir? |
| 10:43.14 | petykooo | liable: standard sarge, 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 10:43.29 | petykooo | Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.2 |
| 10:43.29 | petykooo | Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast |
| 10:43.43 | petykooo | this ^ 4 the bluetooth |
| 10:43.56 | petykooo | petykooo:/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget# lsusb |
| 10:43.56 | petykooo | Bus 004 Device 008: ID 067b:2501 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2501 USB-USB Bridge (USB 2.0) |
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| 10:44.18 | petykooo | ^ 4 the usbnet cable |
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| 10:44.51 | petykooo | i don't want to use a nullmodem cable in 2006.... |
| 10:45.11 | jm_ | perhaps USB is too complicated for you ;) |
| 10:45.32 | petykooo | :) |
| 10:45.35 | petykooo | maybe |
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| 10:45.36 | petykooo | but |
| 10:45.37 | blondie | use a crossover cat5 cable then |
| 10:45.39 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:45.40 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:45.49 | blondie | infinitely easier |
| 10:45.54 | tarzeau | ok graveman is good cd burning software! |
| 10:46.15 | petykooo | except the pendrives (sticks) i can't get to work any usb dev's... |
| 10:46.31 | petykooo | blondie: notebook, no lan, no pcmcia lan card... |
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| 10:46.37 | petykooo | 1 usb |
| 10:46.39 | petykooo | 1 serial |
| 10:46.43 | petykooo | only |
| 10:46.47 | petykooo | no floppy |
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| 10:47.02 | mr_claus | even if it does not make sense to add user backup to disk group i shoud be able to access the device /dev/mapper/xxxxx if the permissions are root:disk and 660? |
| 10:47.07 | qzio | does backports.org have a channel on freenode? |
| 10:47.14 | fontp | In the debian init.d scripts, it looks for $ENABLE , where is that set ? |
| 10:47.16 | jm_ | do you have usbnet module loaded? |
| 10:47.35 | petykooo | yes |
| 10:47.36 | petykooo | but |
| 10:47.40 | petykooo | g_ether says: |
| 10:47.41 | jm_ | mr_claus: only if you're in that group |
| 10:47.49 | aidehua | Why doesn't "date | read FOO" set FOO to be the date? |
| 10:47.49 | jm_ | fontp: which init.d script? |
| 10:47.56 | mr_claus | jm_: the user backup is in group disk |
| 10:48.00 | petykooo | petykooo:/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget# modprobe g_ether |
| 10:48.00 | petykooo | FATAL: Error inserting g_ether (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/kernel/drivers/usb/gadg |
| 10:48.00 | petykooo | et/g_ether.ko): No such device |
| 10:48.03 | blondie | petykooo: what kind of laptop doesn't have network? get a usb->lan adaptor |
| 10:48.07 | mr_claus | jm_: but it cannot access the devices |
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| 10:48.17 | petykooo | blondie: it s urgent, |
| 10:48.19 | tarzeau | haha The GIMP |
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| 10:48.26 | jm_ | mr_claus: did you add it to this group and forgot to logout and login again or use newgrp/sg commands? |
| 10:48.26 | petykooo | a have 2 usb bluetoth stick |
| 10:48.27 | tarzeau | why is it not in teh menu just as "GIMP" ? |
| 10:48.31 | petykooo | usb-usb cable |
| 10:48.34 | mr_claus | jm_: i tried a simple dd if=/dev/mapper/xxxxx of=test bs=512 count=1 to test it |
| 10:48.40 | petykooo | no $ availabla.... |
| 10:48.40 | tarzeau | and why does it tell me: error grabbing the pointer. specified window not found.? |
| 10:48.52 | davi_ | What package to install kde ? |
| 10:48.56 | petykooo | it's a very old siemens 266 mhz |
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| 10:48.57 | petykooo | pII |
| 10:48.58 | tarzeau | davi_: kde |
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| 10:49.01 | tarzeau | davi_: but #debian-kde |
| 10:49.01 | mr_claus | jm_: no, i did a relog and run "groups" and the user is in disk group |
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| 10:49.29 | jm_ | mr_claus: then check if /dev/mapper dir has the right settings too |
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| 10:49.54 | mr_claus | jm_: drwxrw-r-x 2 root disk 4096 Mar 19 16:35 /dev/mapper/ that should work |
| 10:50.17 | mr_claus | jm_: or does it match only the group disk and not everyone? |
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| 10:50.32 | mr_claus | jm_: i do a g+x |
| 10:50.39 | jm_ | mr_claus: both look fine |
| 10:50.42 | k31th | How messed up is this, im trying to burn a 88mb cd ISO and k3b is asking me to put in a dvd -R dual layer disk |
| 10:50.54 | tarzeau | k31th: hahahah |
| 10:50.58 | tarzeau | k31th: k3b sucks. try graveman |
| 10:51.03 | k31th | ok |
| 10:51.07 | tarzeau | k31th: wait is that also debian gnu/kfreebsd iso you try to burn? |
| 10:51.21 | jm_ | mr_claus: recheck files in /dev/mapper dir |
| 10:51.23 | tarzeau | it's funny i got screwed up badly by k3b/gnomebaker |
| 10:51.32 | k31th | no its not. |
| 10:51.37 | tarzeau | and now i try to document graveman with gimp screenshooter, and gimp screws me up. back to scrot |
| 10:51.40 | k31th | its an iso for a utilitys cd |
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| 10:52.04 | mr_claus | jm_: the problem was the g=rw, a g=rwx solved it |
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| 10:52.23 | mr_claus | jm_: it seems that the o=rx is not checked if the group is matching |
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| 10:52.47 | jm_ | mr_cal;that's pretty strange behaviour, let me test it |
| 10:52.50 | fontp | jm_ : these are init scripts for internal software that, I believe, are copied from debian init scripts. I didn't set this up, though. |
| 10:53.05 | jm_ | fontp: no, Debian doesn't have anything like this in sample init.d script |
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| 10:54.02 | tarzeau | k31th: selfmade? |
| 10:54.07 | jm_ | mr_claus: yeah it works like that, interesting detail |
| 10:54.29 | fontp | where is the sample init.d script normally kept, jm? |
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| 10:54.36 | jm_ | fontp: /etc/init.d/skeleton |
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| 10:55.21 | fontp | cool, thanks. |
| 10:56.42 | k31th | tarzeau: where is the option to burn a iso with this graveman |
| 10:56.50 | k31th | i can only see options to create data cds |
| 10:56.54 | tarzeau | k31th: duplicate cd |
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| 10:56.58 | tarzeau | k31th: source=iso |
| 10:57.02 | k31th | ok found tit |
| 10:57.06 | k31th | it :p |
| 10:57.16 | davi_ | How to solve this problem: libice-dev: Depends: libice6 (= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1) but 6.8.2.dfsg.1-7bpo1 |
| 10:57.24 | davi_ | is to be installed |
| 10:57.49 | k31th | tarzeau: lol it crashed |
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| 10:58.18 | tarzeau | k31th: sid or sarge? |
| 10:58.25 | tarzeau | k31th: are you in the cdrom group? |
| 10:58.35 | k31th | sid |
| 10:58.35 | tarzeau | k31th: and is the /dev/hdx cdromg roup rw ? |
| 10:58.39 | tarzeau | 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 10:58.44 | k31th | tarzeau: well k3b worked tbh |
| 10:58.50 | k31th | 2.6 |
| 10:58.52 | tarzeau | k3b asked for root password? |
| 10:59.35 | k31th | nope |
| 10:59.41 | k31th | im in the corrct groups |
| 10:59.56 | liable | hehe |
| 11:00.18 | Jhair | ツ |
| 11:00.22 | tarzeau | it works for me |
| 11:00.25 | tarzeau | where as k3b doesn't |
| 11:01.51 | jm_ | davi_: do you need libice-dev ? |
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| 11:02.33 | edrin | have you seen the the movie "inside man"? how is the music in the beginning and at the end called?? |
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| 11:02.54 | k31th | that film is awsome |
| 11:02.55 | jm_ | edrin: try asking in #wecouldntcareless |
| 11:03.01 | k31th | LOL |
| 11:03.24 | tarzeau | k31th: got it as mpeg4? |
| 11:03.36 | davi_ | Yes jm_ I need it to develop |
| 11:03.40 | k31th | I watched it in the cinema |
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| 11:04.13 | davi_ | jm_ I have deleted some x packages. I am cleaning the host |
| 11:04.22 | jm_ | davi_: then get libice-dev from backports if you're also installing other stuff from it |
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| 11:05.42 | pengol | hi there ... how do I use the QUOTAUSER variable in the adduser.conf file? |
| 11:06.06 | jm_ | pengol: what do you mean "how"? |
| 11:06.31 | davi_ | jm_ I will clean all packages from outsite of Sarge, and reinstall it from Sarge. What do you think about it ? |
| 11:06.49 | jm_ | davi_: that's really up to you, my opinion doesn't matter |
| 11:07.08 | davi_ | jm_ :) |
| 11:07.09 | pengol | jm_: should I create a generic user and set his quota value and specify her there? |
| 11:07.42 | [Ag0ny] | sorry for the long question, but here's the background: I just installed Debian on my laptop, and the initial boot worked fine, however, now that I reboot, X is coming up with an error along the lines of "cs: socket ddb58?? timed out during reset. Try increasing setup_delay |
| 11:07.42 | [Ag0ny] | ti113x: Routing card interrupts to PCI" where the ?? is two indecernable symbols. This error is repeated indefinately. Looking this up, I found that this could be an error with my pcmcia and X, does anybody know if I can fix this without re-compiling the kernel, and if I have to, how do I include the fix for it? (I've never done it before) |
| 11:07.43 | jm_ | pengol: yes |
| 11:07.58 | pengol | jm_: thanks :) |
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| 11:08.34 | jm_ | [Ag0ny]: tried using newer kernel first? |
| 11:08.59 | [Ag0ny] | not yet |
| 11:09.36 | inc|freaky | hi all. is someone using the gallery2 package? it has just been updated in etch and now the admin links doesnt work anymore because the directory admin/ is suddenly missing and i cant see the pictures anymore (they seem to have moved - they are still there) - can someone help me? |
| 11:09.38 | [Ag0ny] | I'm using 2.4.27-2 |
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| 11:09.48 | jm_ | try 2.6 |
| 11:09.56 | [Ag0ny] | allright |
| 11:10.09 | jm_ | and keep 2.4 as a backup option |
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| 11:10.59 | pengol | jm_: can I omit inode limits? |
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| 11:11.46 | jm_ | pengol: you should be able to set it to 0 for "no-quotas" |
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| 11:13.21 | pengol | jm_: thanks |
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| 11:15.33 | jengelh | inode limit is number of files |
| 11:15.46 | [Ag0ny] | jm_:: thanks that worked |
| 11:15.56 | jm_ | [Ag0ny]: heh sometimes things are too easy |
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| 11:16.39 | [Ag0ny] | yeah :/ just enough to make you feel dumb |
| 11:16.45 | [Ag0ny] | thanks |
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| 11:20.05 | sparr | whats a fast/easy way to reverse a string in bash/perl/awk/sed/whatever? |
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| 11:20.36 | knvinh | Does anyone know an easy way to install Oracle 10g in Debian? |
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| 11:22.50 | jm_ | knvinh: latest DSA has something about Oracle and apt repositories for sid |
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| 11:23.33 | knvinh | jm_: sorry, what is DSA? where is it? |
| 11:23.35 | jm_ | not DSA but DWN, sorry |
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| 11:23.45 | jm_ | !tell knvinh -about dwn |
| 11:23.57 | speedy | can someone provide me with a good and fast debian packages mirror? |
| 11:24.10 | knvinh | jm_: Ok, thanks |
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| 11:24.27 | petemc | speedy: apt-spy |
| 11:24.37 | jm_ | speedy: it's on the web page |
| 11:24.49 | speedy | thanks |
| 11:25.43 | kaimis | ok maybe it's a little bit offtopic, but I want to assk how about upload shaping in deb? I have a slow dsl, I shape download without any problems with tc but with upload I have a problems |
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| 11:26.25 | xk | heh, slow upstream... I'm happy that I don't have that any more. |
| 11:26.30 | xk | 1024 kbit just owns. |
| 11:26.37 | jm_ | kaimis: try asking on #lartc here or their "official" channel (their web page will tell you on which IRC network you can find it) |
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| 11:27.01 | jm_ | yeah it looks like Ozzies can finally get decent connections |
| 11:27.03 | kaimis | ok |
| 11:29.02 | kaimis | xk yes, but in my case there is only 512kbit/s, and when the upload is high web browsing is so slow |
| 11:29.32 | jm_ | kaimis: wondershaper should help with that if you set the limits properly |
| 11:29.37 | kaimis | I have 1024\512 |
| 11:29.50 | xk | hmm... weird... how many uploads do you have concurrently? |
| 11:29.58 | jm_ | torrent? :) |
| 11:30.01 | xk | heh. |
| 11:30.03 | kaimis | I have some users |
| 11:30.14 | kaimis | net price is high |
| 11:30.15 | xk | ah... that would explain it. |
| 11:30.26 | kaimis | I'm a student ;) |
| 11:30.32 | kaimis | just a debian user |
| 11:30.59 | jm_ | sounds like you'll need something more advanced than wondershaper |
| 11:31.09 | kaimis | mhm |
| 11:31.16 | streuner_ | hi xk |
| 11:31.20 | kaimis | tc is powerfull |
| 11:31.31 | kaimis | but only for download |
| 11:31.40 | kaimis | with upl I have problems |
| 11:31.44 | xk | I thought tc only worked properly for uploads? |
| 11:31.53 | kaimis | I trayed ws too |
| 11:32.19 | kaimis | I don't know |
| 11:32.48 | xk | only way it can shape downloads is to drop packets and shrink the tcp window. |
| 11:33.20 | kaimis | with packet marking too |
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| 11:33.24 | xk | kaimis: what speed did you set the upstream/downstream shaping? |
| 11:33.39 | kaimis | in wc? |
| 11:33.42 | xk | yes |
| 11:33.43 | kaimis | ws |
| 11:33.45 | kaimis | tb |
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| 11:33.47 | kaimis | hmm |
| 11:34.30 | kaimis | DOWNLINK=256 |
| 11:34.31 | kaimis | UPLINK=20 |
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| 11:34.57 | kaimis | in ws it's for interface in global |
| 11:35.06 | kaimis | not for any user |
| 11:35.15 | xk | hmmm... I did use wondershaper but it didn't really shape downloads, heh. |
| 11:35.39 | xk | I think you need to shape on the right interface. |
| 11:35.40 | menko | hi people, the reboot command wasn't working, so I tried running it as root in the terminal in ctrl-alt-F1(not sure what to call it lol), anyway, it says : "Give root password for maintenance(or press ctrl-D to continue), anyone know what's causing this? |
| 11:35.50 | xk | the downlink interface appears to be ok since you said it works |
| 11:36.07 | xk | the upstream interface should be something else. |
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| 11:36.11 | xk | (I never figured it out) |
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| 11:36.24 | kaimis | no no for download I have another script |
| 11:36.27 | xk | ah |
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| 11:36.44 | chealer9 | menko: it's called tty1. what does /proc/cmdline contain? |
| 11:36.59 | streuner_ | xk: LTNS, where have you been? |
| 11:37.01 | menko | chealer9: root=/dev/hda1 ro |
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| 11:37.32 | xk | streuner_: awol... irc is a time waster ;) |
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| 11:37.56 | streuner_ | not in most cases |
| 11:38.05 | oddbudman | if i setup bittorrent in crontab, is there a way to make crontab run bittorent in in my x session ? |
| 11:38.13 | chealer9 | menko: what does # runlevel; output? |
| 11:38.15 | kaimis | xk maybe U know some tc support chanel? |
| 11:38.20 | kaimis | or irc server |
| 11:38.20 | xk | kaimis: I seriously don't know - I prefer freebsd's packet filtering, shaping appears to be so easy to setup with it. |
| 11:38.59 | menko | chealer9: it outputs "2 6" atm, but that's because it's showing that output right now. It usually shows "2", but with a letter before it. |
| 11:38.59 | kaimis | i know, but I have all my servers/routers on deb ;) |
| 11:39.01 | jm_ | menko: it might have been fscking your fs and wants you to run it manually now |
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| 11:40.08 | menko | jm_: ok well I'll look into it some more tomorrow, I should go to bed now |
| 11:40.24 | Greek-B0y | I accidently deleted /etc/courier directory. This hold the configuration file for courier-imap. How can i replace these? apt-get install courier-imap doesn't replace the config files... |
| 11:40.25 | chealer9 | menko: hum. I don't know |
| 11:40.26 | Greek-B0y | :) |
| 11:40.40 | menko | just a small update, if I press ctrl-d, it keeps saying it |
| 11:40.41 | jm_ | !tell Greek-B0y -about confmiss |
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| 11:41.41 | Greek-B0y | thanks jm |
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| 11:48.02 | Delicates | what ext3 settings would you use for a 500 GB FS? |
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| 11:49.27 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:49.27 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 11:49.48 | tarzeau | Delicates: one large partition? and all ext3? |
| 11:50.15 | tarzeau | xk, kaimis tried debian gnu/kfreebsd yet, #gnu-kbsd ? |
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| 11:50.52 | kaimis | tarzeau nope |
| 11:51.26 | xk | using iptables or tc is just painful... that's the problem. |
| 11:53.18 | kaimis | mhm |
| 11:54.06 | kaimis | iptables and tc nothing hard, but iptables + tc = head pain |
| 11:54.19 | Delicates | tarzeau: yes |
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| 11:57.27 | ColdWind | someone using ipw2200 and udev? |
| 11:57.48 | petter_ | What's the best and fastest kernel for a athlon xp mobile cpu? |
| 11:58.02 | petter_ | I can't figure out what kernel image to install. |
| 11:58.17 | tarzeau | petter_: self built one |
| 11:58.45 | petter_ | tarzeau: but just a stock one for start... |
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| 11:59.05 | petter_ | tarzeau: is my machine a k7? or should I use i686? or what? |
| 11:59.13 | tarzeau | petter_: my amd64 is a k8 |
| 11:59.19 | tarzeau | dunno about laptops |
| 11:59.27 | tarzeau | try k7 |
| 11:59.36 | tarzeau | worst, it'll not work. select another kernel from grub |
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| 11:59.58 | petter_ | kk, thanks |
| 12:00.07 | tarzeau | nm, yq |
| 12:00.09 | tarzeau | yw |
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| 12:11.13 | lypie | hey * |
| 12:11.24 | lypie | how would i go about downgrading a single package? |
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| 12:11.39 | lypie | i use unstable and a package i depend on just started segfaulting, i'm fairly sure downgrading it would fix it |
| 12:12.18 | Edward_TLS | lypie, try downloading the pkg from the debian site and use dpkg -i |
| 12:12.44 | Edward_TLS | lypie, if you really want to upgrade only one .deb |
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| 12:13.18 | lypie | Edward_TLS: its difficult to know exactly what went bad, but this seems the most likely |
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| 12:13.29 | chemaja | Edward_TLS: I'm pretty sure apt supports "just install only this package" type flag |
| 12:13.44 | lypie | does it suppose versioning hints? |
| 12:14.11 | lewis222 | I currently use awstats to look at graphs for various websites. However, I want to see in a text form the amount of bandwidth used for various sites in a month, all on one site. Is using awstats the way to go, or is there an alternative? I use apache1.3 |
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| 12:14.17 | jm_ | lypie: yes, but repository most likely won't have the old version |
| 12:14.27 | lypie | jm_: it doesn't :( |
| 12:14.31 | lypie | jm_: how do i find them? |
| 12:14.33 | jm_ | lypie: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 12:14.36 | lypie | there is an archive. someone right? |
| 12:14.40 | jm_ | lypie: or your cache maybe |
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| 12:22.54 | lypie | thx jm_ Edward_TLS chemaja ! |
| 12:23.04 | lypie | jm_: was still in my /var/cache :) |
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| 12:24.19 | Edward_TLS | lypie, np |
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| 12:29.56 | Kempston_ | which pop3 server provides both virtual domains (ip based) and ssl support ? |
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| 12:32.12 | row | Kempston_: virtual domains that are ip based, er I am not sure I get you. |
| 12:32.21 | kikoo_ | . |
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| 12:33.49 | Kempston_ | pop3server have two type of virtual domains detection: 1) simple one - by checking ip of connection 2) complicated one - by client entering user@domain instead of user |
| 12:34.07 | Kempston_ | serverS |
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| 12:38.49 | De_Mon | is it fair to say foo + bar = quux? |
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| 12:40.03 | pengol | should I load some kernel module to enable disk quota? |
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| 12:40.49 | jm_ | pengol: CONFIG_QUOTA is relevan kernel option |
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| 12:42.06 | pengol | jm_: looks like is is enabled ... but even if limits are sets the user can break them |
| 12:42.37 | jm_ | pengol: does quota -v report them? you can go over soft quota up to hard quota |
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| 12:42.56 | jm_ | it all depends on your settings |
| 12:43.02 | deb-usr | I can't edit anything in the etc directory, For example apache configs. but im logged in as root. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 12:44.12 | pengol | jm_: quota -v report 3036216* 1048576 2097152 blocks quota limit |
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| 12:44.20 | jind | Hi |
| 12:44.36 | jm_ | pengol: it was too long for me to remember the details, tried quota howto? |
| 12:44.44 | jm_ | too long ago* |
| 12:44.53 | pengol | jm_: I'll check it out ... |
| 12:45.14 | pengol | I have done all to chapther 4 Iìll go trhough the end |
| 12:45.29 | jind | Looking at free -mt here and discovered that the standard kernel does not support 2GB ram. And when looking through the apt-cache search kernel list here it isn't obvious to me if any other 2.6 kernel has support for it. Does anybody know? |
| 12:45.49 | jm_ | jind: 2.6 kernels do have HIGHMEM support |
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| 12:46.41 | jind | Is it somehow required to enable at kernel boot or something? Cause it only lists about 880MB of psysical ram |
| 12:46.56 | jm_ | no, it's built in AFAIK |
| 12:47.14 | jm_ | well perhaps you're using 386 and that one doesn't have it, 686 and k7 have it |
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| 12:47.20 | jind | ras:/tmp/work/mplayerplug-in# free -mt | grep Mem |
| 12:47.20 | jind | Mem: 885 780 104 0 27 471 |
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| 12:47.39 | jm_ | I prefer to use config split patch anyway |
| 12:47.42 | jind | Hm. Alright then. I think this is a 386 kernel |
| 12:47.58 | jm_ | right, try something more suitable for your CPU |
| 12:48.10 | jm_ | and grep HIGHM /boot/config-* |
| 12:48.17 | jm_ | without the typos ;) |
| 12:48.18 | jind | I'll apt an 686 kernel then and see it that fixes that problem |
| 12:48.22 | jind | Hehe |
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| 12:49.01 | lastnode | will i be able to use the ipw2200 chipset during install? |
| 12:49.20 | jm_ | lastnode: probably not, there's a special package for it |
| 12:49.49 | jind | lastnode, you'll need the firmware aswell. It isn't shipped due to some restrictions of some kind |
| 12:50.12 | jind | ipw2200.sourceforge.net <- grab it there |
| 12:50.14 | sylow_ | hey, anyone has an idea why I can't read dvd/rw's? I can read it from windows so the disk seems ok ( dvd drive is lsc-24081m ) |
| 12:50.40 | jm_ | jind: no need to - there's ipw2200-source package |
| 12:50.42 | lastnode | so in short, i cant do the web install? is there anyway then which i can chroot in to the partition and run the install, like gentoo? |
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| 12:50.56 | jm_ | lastnode: yes |
| 12:51.14 | lastnode | jm_, how would i chroot and run the installl? |
| 12:51.18 | lastnode | is there a HOWTO? |
| 12:51.27 | Norbert- | hi y'all, I have a question about kwave - I have alsa drivers working and enabled the "Mic Boost" (+20dB) with alsamixer, but the sound is still to quiet - the "Level" tab in kwave shows all controls disabled |
| 12:51.34 | jm_ | lastnode: read installation guide, it has a chapter about debootstrap and there are many howtos about it |
| 12:52.49 | jind | jm_, I have a ipw2100 chipset here and it's covered by the same type of licence. And I had to download the firmware separately. The module itself however, was prebuilt |
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| 12:53.06 | jm_ | jind: yeah, I'm sure the package will have more details |
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| 12:56.04 | sylow_ | when I put a dvd-rw in the drive and try mount /dev/cdrom it keeps trying to access it, but doesn't mount it and hangs eventually. I don't have this with other dvd's.. what could cause this, any method I can find this out ? |
| 12:56.33 | blondie | sylow_: the disc is dirty/broken/corrupt/unreadable by your drive |
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| 12:57.54 | jm_ | sylow_: either way, kernel would report errors if that's the case, run dmesg |
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| 12:59.01 | quiet | i keep setting up xorg on my laptop.. and redoing it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg... and i keep gettng a 640x480 screen, even though i specified to ONLY use 1024x768 at 24 bit |
| 12:59.04 | quiet | any ideas? |
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| 12:59.36 | jm_ | !drxx quiet |
| 12:59.36 | dpkg | quiet: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 12:59.38 | jm_ | the last bit |
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| 13:00.31 | quiet | jm_, i know that.. that's why i don't edit the file by hand... i don't get what your point is. |
| 13:00.38 | kurumin | oi |
| 13:00.45 | kurumin | preciso de ajuda |
| 13:00.50 | azeem | !br |
| 13:00.50 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 13:00.53 | jm_ | quiet: my point is that if it doesn't write new config file, you should follow the last bit |
| 13:01.15 | quiet | it DOES write the new config file.. |
| 13:01.29 | kurumin | que canal uso para ter ajuada |
| 13:01.33 | jm_ | then you'll find out why it works that way by reading through X logfile |
| 13:01.33 | sylow_ | jm_: thanks.. I guess it has something to do with the UDF-fs |
| 13:01.34 | quiet | but the screen still shows up as a small 640x480 in the middle fo the screen |
| 13:01.45 | jm_ | sylow_: does your kernel support it? |
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| 13:02.28 | sylow_ | jm_: I'll have to check that, installed latest stable yesterday.. isn't udf enabled by default ? |
| 13:02.33 | jind | quiet, check out HorizSync in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I almost guarantee you that value should be set higher. |
| 13:02.55 | jm_ | sylow_: cat /proc/filesystems, load udf module? |
| 13:03.02 | jind | dpkg-reconfigure does not set that value high enough here either |
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| 13:04.07 | sylow_ | jm_: yes udf is listed there |
| 13:04.16 | jind | I think Section Monitor is what you want to check into. |
| 13:04.25 | jm_ | sylow_: ok, then it's either not compatible or there are errors |
| 13:04.25 | sylow_ | jm_: (without nodev before it) |
| 13:05.56 | sylow_ | jm_: well yes it also gives some errors like hdc: media error (bad sector) , but all dvd's have it (8), and they can be accessed on other systems and on the windows dualboot |
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| 13:06.06 | quiet | jind, will do... FYI: this is a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300... Pentium III 650mhz with a Savage video card with 8MB video memory. |
| 13:06.13 | jm_ | sylow_: yes, that's why it fails |
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| 13:06.28 | jind | Add "HorizSync 48-120" for up to 1280x1024@120Hz |
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| 13:06.43 | quiet | 120Hz will destroy an LCD |
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| 13:06.59 | jind | Set it to 60 then :) |
| 13:07.06 | quiet | heh.. ok. |
| 13:07.07 | jind | I use both a lcd and a crt here |
| 13:07.14 | trueno | Does debian include the knoppix deb metapackages? |
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| 13:08.02 | jind | quiet, however. This value is just the max value that the monitor itself can handle. The screen section defines the actual modes |
| 13:08.21 | quiet | right.. okay. i'll give it a shot. |
| 13:11.19 | jind | And in the meantime, I'll go to work. Good luck |
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| 13:12.23 | jind | quiet, wait a minute |
| 13:12.32 | quiet | jind, ok? |
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| 13:13.17 | jind | quiet, I googled a bit to be sure since it's some time since I had the problem myself. I found that HorizSync is defining the max resolution and VertRefresh is defining the refresh rate |
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| 13:13.37 | quiet | ok.. |
| 13:13.39 | jind | VertRefresh 60 is what you want then |
| 13:14.02 | jind | And HorizSync 48-96 is safe values |
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| 13:14.42 | jind | You can try lower first though. But up to 96 is what I have been using on a 1024x768 laptop lcd screen myself |
| 13:14.54 | jm_ | 96 is pushing it for an LCD |
| 13:15.30 | jind | Alright. Try lower then. But here it works well and this laptop is on 24/7 |
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| 13:16.31 | eps | any one planning to fix samba some time soon? (in unstable...the update fails) |
| 13:16.35 | dan0nee | hola¿ |
| 13:16.48 | blondie | unstable is meant to be broken :) |
| 13:16.58 | eps | oh oh! and now manpages-dev is broken! |
| 13:17.03 | eps | yeah I guess so |
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| 13:17.12 | jind | Use etch instead :) |
| 13:17.22 | jind | Works pretty good here |
| 13:17.29 | eps | stuff etch...leading edge isn't bleeding enough for my liking |
| 13:17.34 | dan0nee | hello |
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| 13:17.51 | dan0nee | there are people of speak spanish¿ |
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| 13:18.01 | jind | bleeding edge mysteriously enough often is "bleeding" ;) |
| 13:18.04 | eps | any way, going to restart x so I get the new gnome 2.14 features :P |
| 13:18.17 | eps | hehe :P |
| 13:18.18 | eps | true |
| 13:18.26 | azeem | !es |
| 13:18.27 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:18.27 | jind | *gone to work* |
| 13:18.33 | azeem | dan0nee: ^^ |
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| 13:19.06 | dan0nee | azeem hablas español¿ |
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| 13:19.18 | freedo | i'm trying to compile ipw2200-source using m-a a-i ipw2200 anyone know wwhy it fails? |
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| 13:21.00 | azeem | dan0nee: no |
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| 13:21.48 | tarzeau | jind: blood isn't bad, neither is bleeding |
| 13:22.04 | tarzeau | jind: it just gets messy when mixed with large amounts of water |
| 13:22.07 | tarzeau | or put on clothes |
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| 13:22.41 | davi__ | What package to install the x windows system ? Note: I am on Sarge. |
| 13:22.53 | jm_ | x-window-system or -core |
| 13:22.55 | quiet | xserver-xfree86 and xwindow-system-core |
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| 13:23.25 | davi__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:24.33 | freedo | i'm trying to compile ipw2200-source using m-a a-i ipw2200 anyone know why it fails? |
| 13:24.40 | abrotman | !ipw2100 |
| 13:24.40 | dpkg | hmm... ipw2100 is a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: 'apt-get install ipw2100-source', build with module-assistant. Download and install the firmware as you get told during install. For help try #ipw2100 or http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net. It's built in to kernels >= 2.6.15 and you need a 2.6 kernel to compile it |
| 13:24.43 | abrotman | bah |
| 13:24.45 | TraceGreen | Hello, i delete some important files, can any tools help me to recover it? |
| 13:24.51 | abrotman | use your backup! |
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| 13:25.24 | abrotman | freedo: do you have an error for us? |
| 13:26.10 | Shadowcat | abrotman: pebkac |
| 13:26.11 | Shadowcat | ;) |
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| 13:26.20 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: ext2/3? |
| 13:26.31 | TraceGreen | fat32/ntfs |
| 13:26.31 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: was it jpeg? |
| 13:26.37 | freedo | /usr/src/modules/ipw2200/driver/ipw2200.h:1131: error: variable or field |
| 13:26.44 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: oh, remount it ro, should be easy to recover |
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| 13:27.07 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, what do you mean? is it easy? |
| 13:27.31 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, if i remount it ro, how can i recover? which tool can help me ? |
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| 13:28.03 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: really it sucks what you did. don't delete important files |
| 13:28.14 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: why did you delete them? with rm? how? |
| 13:28.24 | juan | hello, i have a question |
| 13:28.32 | Shadowcat | !ask |
| 13:28.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:28.39 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, i just remove them in windows. |
| 13:28.49 | TraceGreen | then, my windows crash |
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| 13:29.06 | Shadowcat | tarzeau: what stupid thing did TraceGreen do? |
| 13:29.10 | abrotman | hehe .. i'd consider them gone .. and it's OT in this channel |
| 13:29.15 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: delete important porn files |
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| 13:29.39 | tarzeau | windows? ##windows ! www.linuks.mine.nu/windows.jpg |
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| 13:29.42 | TraceGreen | Shad0wcat, i just delete some important files in windows. so , can i try to find out what delete in linux? |
| 13:29.49 | Crusad0r | hello |
| 13:29.54 | juan | i have a router with a linux firmware, i want extract this firmware for use on another router, i can make it? |
| 13:29.59 | Shadowcat | TraceGreen: wtf did you do? |
| 13:30.08 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: it's off topic |
| 13:30.10 | Shadowcat | juan: doubtful |
| 13:30.11 | freedo | abrotman: /usr/src/modules/ipw2200/driver/ipw2200.h:1131: error: variable or field |
| 13:30.16 | Shadowcat | tarzeau: ya I realize that |
| 13:30.33 | abrotman | freedo: a sarge box? |
| 13:30.42 | freedo | yeah |
| 13:30.44 | TraceGreen | Shad0wcat, i can not remember , sorry, i just want to know does linux have any tool to help me to find out some deleted files in Windows. |
| 13:30.52 | freedo | kernel2.6 |
| 13:30.55 | Shadowcat | TraceGreen: do yourself a favor |
| 13:31.00 | Shadowcat | go reinstall windows |
| 13:31.08 | Shadowcat | then stop touching the Windows directory |
| 13:31.09 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: yes it has |
| 13:31.29 | Shadowcat | tarzeau: I'm guessing he wants file recovery? |
| 13:31.29 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, what do you mean ? do you mean has such tools or i should reinstall my windows. |
| 13:31.31 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: testdisk and foremost maybe |
| 13:31.35 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: yes |
| 13:31.42 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: what files were it? |
| 13:31.43 | Shadowcat | tarzeau: save yourself some hair |
| 13:31.47 | Shadowcat | tell him to reinstall Windows |
| 13:31.49 | juan | Shad0wcat, this is ac ommand? |
| 13:31.50 | abrotman | TraceGreen: you could open a trouble ticket with microsoft |
| 13:32.02 | abrotman | TraceGreen: your question is not related to debian AT ALL .. |
| 13:32.03 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: i'd like to get rid of some forever |
| 13:32.10 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: just shaved it this morning |
| 13:32.22 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: and i've got plenty on my head, and long too! |
| 13:32.28 | TraceGreen | abrotman, sorry. i just want to know whether linux has such tools. soryy. |
| 13:32.34 | Shadowcat | TraceGreen: listen |
| 13:32.38 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: yes it does. now what? |
| 13:32.43 | Shadowcat | you deleted something in Windows |
| 13:32.46 | Shadowcat | you don't know what it is |
| 13:32.47 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: besides this is #debian . not limited to linux |
| 13:32.47 | abrotman | TraceGreen: so go ask ##linux |
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| 13:32.50 | jms_23 | hello, i have an "old" woody server that i want to upgrade into sarge, i change (as usual) the sources.list and after an update, a "apt-get -s dist-upgrade" tells me that it wants to remove many packets (like adduser, apache, etc.) |
| 13:32.53 | Shadowcat | and you want data recovery? |
| 13:32.58 | abrotman | tarzeau: his question isn't bsd related either |
| 13:33.01 | tarzeau | !consultants |
| 13:33.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, consultants is http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 13:33.02 | pengol | I have specified a wrong return email address in a ITP ... will the bug be processed? |
| 13:33.05 | Shadowcat | TraceGreen: do us all a favor, GO REINSTALL WINDOWS |
| 13:33.07 | Crusad0r | I have a problem with the public gpg signature of volatile repository. My apt says that this key is unavailable. Where can I find it and how can I implement it ? |
| 13:33.12 | Shadowcat | and stop touching the C:\Windows directory |
| 13:33.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: they gave up on debian gnu/win32? |
| 13:33.20 | abrotman | tarzeau: not funny |
| 13:33.22 | Shadowcat | you're not skilled enough to run any of the recovery tools anyway |
| 13:33.25 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, i can remember, let me have a try.and i would reinstall. thanks all1 |
| 13:33.46 | tarzeau | pengol: you did what? |
| 13:33.55 | Shadowcat | is it still Monday somewhere |
| 13:34.00 | abrotman | pengol: probably |
| 13:34.03 | Shadowcat | because these questions are getting realy lame |
| 13:34.05 | chealer9 | jms_23: you must mean packages |
| 13:34.05 | Shadowcat | really* |
| 13:34.10 | freedo | abrotman: yeah, its a sarge box. i'm running kernel 2.6 |
| 13:34.13 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: just start telling you are noob |
| 13:34.27 | tarzeau | freedo: 2.6.WHICH? |
| 13:34.28 | jms_23 | chealer9: hmm, yes of course, packages, no packets |
| 13:34.35 | pengol | tarzeau: I filled a itp with reportbug but didn't noticed the wrong email address on the top of the message. |
| 13:34.51 | tarzeau | pengol: hehe, do you like reportbug? |
| 13:35.01 | abrotman | hehe .. does it matter? |
| 13:35.02 | pengol | abrotman: should I fill another bug report ? |
| 13:35.10 | Perdignus | Does anyone have the game/package tint installed? Recenntly, on all my Deb machines, I can't use the arrow keys in tint anymore. |
| 13:35.13 | freedo | tarzeau: 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 13:35.16 | tarzeau | pengol: what did you itp? |
| 13:35.25 | abrotman | pengol: just wait a bit .. if it doesn't show up .. do another |
| 13:35.26 | pengol | tarzeau: munge credential service ... |
| 13:35.27 | dan0nee | can i help me please |
| 13:35.28 | dan0nee | ¿ |
| 13:35.34 | abrotman | pengol: wait like .. an hour or so |
| 13:35.41 | jms_23 | chealer9: i had a such problem 1 year ago with the same update (on another server of course) and i just had to remove debconf-tiny, but there isn't any debconf-tiny now... |
| 13:35.43 | Shadowcat | dan0nee: no you can't help yourself |
| 13:35.51 | tarzeau | Perdignus: checked BTS? |
| 13:35.59 | pengol | it is not yet in the db |
| 13:36.09 | tarzeau | pengol: url? |
| 13:36.16 | Perdignus | tarzeau: BTS? guess not, I don't know what it is, bug tracking system maybe? |
| 13:36.17 | abrotman | pengol: how long has it been? |
| 13:36.21 | abrotman | !bts |
| 13:36.21 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 13:36.30 | pengol | ftp://ftp.llnl.gov/pub/linux/munge/ |
| 13:37.07 | tarzeau | pengol: nice |
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| 13:37.26 | pengol | tarzeau: it is needed by another package that was requested and I'm going to package |
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| 13:37.42 | tarzeau | nice. what's the other package? |
| 13:37.46 | pengol | abrotman: few minutes |
| 13:37.54 | abrotman | pengol: so wait like an hour .. |
| 13:38.07 | pengol | tarzeau: http://www.llnl.gov/linux/slurm/ |
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| 13:38.30 | pengol | abrotman: what if the bug gto published? |
| 13:38.32 | tarzeau | pengol: really looks interesting |
| 13:38.44 | abrotman | pengol: well .. what about it? .. did you file an ITP or RFP ? |
| 13:38.55 | pengol | tarzeau: it is, it is the only resource manager totally GPLed |
| 13:39.12 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'll file a WTF against you |
| 13:39.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: just wait til you get my STFU! :) |
| 13:39.36 | pengol | tarzeau: and it is used by a lot of software vendors, hence seems to be stable |
| 13:39.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg |
| 13:40.00 | abrotman | tarzeau: and then you'll get FYA! |
| 13:40.08 | tarzeau | !FYA |
| 13:40.11 | pengol | abrotman: I filed a ITP for munge and want to change a RFP to a ITP for slurm |
| 13:40.24 | tarzeau | pengol: you can use the command "bts" for that |
| 13:40.34 | tarzeau | abrotman: HDMG |
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| 13:40.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: what's FYA? |
| 13:40.52 | jm_ | fuck you asshole? |
| 13:41.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: honey, how rude you are these days |
| 13:41.16 | Shadowcat | !beat jm_ |
| 13:41.56 | jms_23 | does someone have an idea with my problem ? |
| 13:42.12 | freedo | I'm trying to install the ipw2200 module on Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.8-2-686. I use the command "m-a a-i ipw2200". During the process, I see a lot of "error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type", and it says the build failed. I also get a ton of errors when I view the log. Any ideas? |
| 13:42.53 | Crusad0r | Problem solved. |
| 13:42.53 | Crusad0r | Bye. |
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| 13:43.27 | abrotman | pengol: you can certainly append the bug |
| 13:43.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: maybe if you'd stop using motors on your women! :) |
| 13:43.48 | chealer9 | freedo: are you aware that there are updated kernels for sarge (as /topic advertises)? |
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| 13:45.03 | freedo | chealer9: what kernel should I be running? |
| 13:45.32 | chealer9 | freedo: if you're using 2.6.8-2-686, you should upgrade to 2.6.8-3-686 |
| 13:45.58 | freedo | chealer9: thanks, I'll try that |
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| 13:48.52 | Perdignus | tarzeau : thanks, I submitted a bug report, seems trivial though (the arrow keys in my tetris game don't work, wa wa wa) |
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| 13:50.38 | Delicates | question: anything I do with lvm/evms will tie up the HD to my system and stop me from moving it between PCs? |
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| 13:52.52 | abrotman | !tell broge about root |
| 13:53.35 | dennis_p | success installing debian etch net-install on ppc, but now it lost network connection after first boot. |
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| 13:54.45 | abrotman | dennis_p: anything useful in dmesg? |
| 13:55.08 | jair | ouznext, hello how are you? good morning :) |
| 13:58.27 | mixter | i'm trying to compile my own kernel but the computer hangs at "uncompressing linux". if i compile the kernel for 386 instead of p4 all seems to work. i got a p4 dual core machine. shouldn't i use a kernel compiled for p4 with smp-support with that cpu? |
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| 13:58.58 | abrotman | mixter: why? |
| 13:59.04 | pzar | bry wszystkim |
| 13:59.51 | pzar | Czy kto¶ z Was móg³by mi udzieliæ pomocy zwi±zanej z serwerem poczty EXIM? |
| 14:00.02 | abrotman | pzar: english please |
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| 14:00.21 | pzar | ups sorry |
| 14:00.23 | mixter | abrotman: well, a kernel compiled specifically for p4 is more optimized for a p4 cpu that one compiled for a 386 cpu, right? thats what i've heard atleast :-) don't i need smp support to use both cores in the cpu? |
| 14:01.00 | abrotman | mixter: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 14:01.47 | mixter | abrotman: i get the same result with that kernel :-( and the 2.6.15-kernel from backports.org... thats why i'm trying with my own build now |
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| 14:02.05 | abrotman | mixter: and with a 2.4-686-smp ? |
| 14:02.11 | mixter | abrotman: i would like to use a precompiled debian kernel instead though |
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| 14:02.39 | mixter | abrotman: the raidcard in the machine doesn't work on a 2.4-kernel |
| 14:02.40 | abrotman | mixter: you could contact debian-kernel@lists.debian.org .. maybe they might know why it won't boot |
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| 14:03.21 | mixter | abrotman: ok... i'll try there |
| 14:03.27 | mixter | abrotman: thanks for your time! |
| 14:03.27 | mediman | Hi @all Ich habe ein kleines Problem mit Knoppix im Windowsnetzwerk (ich weiß, nicht schon wieder!), aber es steht und funktioniert alles bis auf folgendes. Wenn ein Windowsuser auf dem Knoppixrechner einen Ordner mit Unterordner und Dateien anlegt, kann nur er die Dateien sehen (Ordner können alle sehen). Wenn der Windowsuser jetzt die einzelnen Dateien mit Benutzerrechte wie "Jeder darf lesen und schreiben" vergibt, können auch andere die |
| 14:03.31 | abrotman | mixter: also .. |
| 14:03.35 | abrotman | mixter: did you check the BTS? |
| 14:03.39 | abrotman | !de |
| 14:03.40 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 14:03.47 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 14:03.47 | dennis_p | right so etch installed and run gnome without asking me if i wanted kde. now it loops at a dialog box 'can't display /var/log/dmesg'' |
| 14:03.47 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. don't forget to ask me about <Based On Debian> |
| 14:03.53 | mediman | Ok, sorry :) |
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| 14:04.10 | mixter | abrotman: bts? |
| 14:04.30 | abrotman | !bts |
| 14:04.30 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 14:04.37 | mixter | abrotman: ah! thanks! |
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| 14:05.03 | mixter | abrotman: haven't checked there... i've googled a lot though :-) i'll look in bts before bugging the list |
| 14:05.36 | takisd | how can i get yaird to be the image creator ona new kernel install instead of mkinitrd which doesn't boot and i have to use yaird later anyway?? |
| 14:05.52 | abrotman | mixter: good plan |
| 14:06.54 | dennis_p | ah, loop has ended now. |
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| 14:09.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'll see my secretary tonight |
| 14:10.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: and the motors work, i'm working on the machines on saturday |
| 14:10.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: be nice |
| 14:10.19 | tarzeau | Perdignus: funny |
| 14:10.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: she loves it when i be bad |
| 14:10.52 | abrotman | i'm sure |
| 14:10.52 | valdyn | takisd: whichever initrd creation tool is installed gets used |
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| 14:11.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: don't be jaleous sweety |
| 14:11.14 | abrotman | trust me .. i'm not |
| 14:11.16 | fireba11 | someone want to help me with a small perl script ? details are at http://channels.debian.net/paste/2305 |
| 14:11.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's ok hun |
| 14:11.40 | takisd | valdyn: what if i have mknitrd and yaird? can i preference one over the other by default? |
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| 14:14.03 | pengol | abrotman, tarzeau: ok the bug has only a wrong submitting address, the owner address is correct ! |
| 14:14.10 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 14:14.40 | LSorensen | takisd: probably. mkinitrd as far as I nkow doesn't work for new kernels, and yaird hasn't been good to me so far (fails on many setups). initramfs-tools is the best one in my opinion so far |
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| 14:14.52 | pengol | abrotman: what's next ... should I ask somebody to test the package? |
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| 14:15.07 | abrotman | pengol: aren't you a DD ? |
| 14:15.32 | bipolar | can anyone point me to a howto or other documentation on backporting? |
| 14:15.45 | stew | bipolar: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 14:15.49 | pengol | abrotman: no |
| 14:15.51 | abrotman | stew! |
| 14:15.53 | stew | yo |
| 14:15.56 | abrotman | pengol: you may need to find a sponsor! |
| 14:15.57 | takisd | LSorensen: thanks... was wondering about that stuff... i'll look into that. mkinitrd breaks all my images, yaird has been ok. thanjs |
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| 14:16.15 | pengol | abrotman: should I ask in mentors? |
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| 14:16.25 | abrotman | pengol: you can ... |
| 14:16.40 | bipolar | stew: thanks! |
| 14:17.05 | madclicker | does anyone knows why the sasl2-dev package is broken on sarge? |
| 14:17.20 | azeem | madclicker: how is it broken? |
| 14:17.23 | azeem | bug number? |
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| 14:18.22 | pengol | abrotman: ... ? |
| 14:18.33 | madclicker | azeem, when i try to build from source and do a apt-get dependencies it errors out |
| 14:18.34 | abrotman | pengol: ??? . |
| 14:18.41 | dennis_p | !kanotix |
| 14:18.41 | dpkg | i heard kanotix is not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) See <Based On Debian> |
| 14:18.45 | pengol | abrotman: any suggestions? |
| 14:18.53 | abrotman | pengol: for a sponsor? .. |
| 14:19.01 | pengol | yes |
| 14:19.02 | pengol | :) |
| 14:19.39 | pengol | I'll ask there |
| 14:19.41 | azeem | madclicker: what error? |
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| 14:20.29 | madclicker | azeem, E: Build-dependencies for cyrus-sasl2 could not be satisfied. |
| 14:20.32 | dennis_p | ok so what should i type to look at dmesg and see why no internet dhcp connection has been made? |
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| 14:20.40 | quiet | jind, you still around?? |
| 14:20.41 | madclicker | azeem, apt-get build-dep cyrus-sasl2 |
| 14:20.47 | azeem | madclicker: anything else? |
| 14:20.49 | azeem | madclicker: which arch? |
| 14:20.51 | abrotman | dennis_p: still with the mac ? |
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| 14:20.56 | dennis_p | yeah |
| 14:21.06 | abrotman | dennis_p: dmesg | grep eth .. see anything ? |
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| 14:23.43 | dennis_p | eth0: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over Ethernet (fw-host0) |
| 14:23.45 | madclicker | azeem, x86 |
| 14:24.02 | azeem | madclicker: what does dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 say? |
| 14:24.04 | pengol | to change a RFP in a ITP I should only change the bug title from RFP: blah blah to ITP: blah blah and take the ownership of the bug? |
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| 14:24.14 | clusty | i was wondering, how can i figure out what are the fontservers that a workstation was using? |
| 14:24.20 | dennis_p | abrotman: is it trying to use the firewire port? |
| 14:24.36 | abrotman | dennis_p: no eth1 ? |
| 14:25.13 | dennis_p | oh that too |
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| 14:25.13 | dennis_p | wait |
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| 14:25.31 | madclicker | azeem, ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 14:26.33 | dennis_p | abrotman: BMAC+ at 00:05:02:el:98:71 |
| 14:26.47 | abrotman | dennis_p: do you have an eth1 or not ? |
| 14:27.16 | dennis_p | eth1: BMAC+ at 00:05:02:e1:98:71 |
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| 14:29.25 | dennis_p | abrotman: that's the only eth1 line |
| 14:29.44 | opensores | How can I change my screen res. to 1280x1024. It only goes up to 1024x768 |
| 14:30.03 | abrotman | dennis_p: dhclient eth1 |
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| 14:32.35 | dennis_p | abrotman: thanks intenet connection works now, now i can get out of gnome :-) phew |
| 14:32.51 | abrotman | dennis_p: you needed gnome to fix that? |
| 14:32.54 | LSorensen | opensores: what monitor settings did you tell it when you configured it? which distribution? |
| 14:33.13 | dennis_p | now gnome is default on etch |
| 14:33.21 | dennis_p | don't know why |
| 14:33.23 | opensores | hansol I think |
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| 14:33.55 | LSorensen | oh debian of course (too many #$@$# channels open) |
| 14:34.05 | abrotman | dennis_p: there is no default |
| 14:34.24 | dennis_p | well it sure did not ask me which one i wanted |
| 14:34.26 | LSorensen | opensores: you can run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (assuming sarge) and pick 1280x1024 as your resolution. You might only have picked 1024x768 last time |
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| 14:36.17 | insidius | Does anyone know what port dansgaurdian should listen on? I am using it on a debian install |
| 14:36.55 | opensores | thanks, /me reboots |
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| 14:37.23 | junix-other | i'm upgrading to 2.6.16 and its asking if i want to remove hotplug..... |
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| 14:37.44 | metaperl | I need to meet these pkg requirements under Debian/testing. Cn I do it? gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.11 pangoft2 >= 1.4.0 libart-2.0 >= 2.3.8 libgnomecanvas-2.0 >= 2.4.0 |
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| 14:39.17 | re-sim | is there any one could use vpn with pptpd |
| 14:39.32 | ma3x | is there any bitrate calc for xvid? |
| 14:40.00 | madclicker | i have a problem with "apt-get build-dep cyrus-sasl2" on sarge, but it works on etch, i am trying it on three different sarge systems. Any help appreciated |
| 14:40.18 | datrix | when I'm in spain why do I have to use different domain name servers to the uk ones |
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| 14:41.34 | re-sim | hello is there any one could use vpn solution which pptpd |
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| 14:42.22 | azeem | madclicker: try to apt-get install the Build-Deps manually and see which one breaks |
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| 14:42.28 | jossver | hello |
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| 14:42.40 | jossver | how to force uninstall a package? |
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| 14:43.37 | Hagfish | default options: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async. |
| 14:43.40 | Hagfish | are those good options to have when mounting a backup drive? |
| 14:43.55 | jossver | or pretend that a package is already uninstalled, if the normal remove won't work? |
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| 14:44.51 | sobersabre | hi guys/girls. where can I read on difference between x509 certificates for encryption and signing ? is there any ? |
| 14:45.34 | jair | If I am using rsync to copy a complete directory from a "local" machine to a "remote" one, I did it using this command: rsync -aP /home/steve/mauroStuff ssh jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/ But if I want to copy the same from the "remote" machine to the local??? |
| 14:45.40 | sobersabre | Do they serve as public keys ? |
| 14:45.58 | jair | Should i just type the information of the remote machine first? |
| 14:46.02 | stew | jair: yes |
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| 14:46.13 | jair | stew, an example with the line a put there? |
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| 14:46.30 | stew | jair: wait, what is "ssh" doing in that command line? |
| 14:46.46 | jair | stew, because I am using it for the remote |
| 14:47.21 | stew | jair: that command line says to copy two files "/home/steve/mauroStuff" and "ssh" to the remote host |
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| 14:47.41 | jair | stew, i think that I could actually remove it because rsync will know that correct? |
| 14:47.54 | stew | jair: if you want to specify to use ssh, you need "-e ssh", but unless you actually have rsh installed and have the rsh alternative pointing to rsh instead of ssh (not recommended) then you can omit the -e ssh |
| 14:49.05 | stew | jair: "rsync -aP jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/mauroStuff /home/steve/" would be the reverse operation, note that whether a trailing / is on a path or not is significant with rsync |
| 14:49.06 | jossver | I need to force uninstall a package (or make dpkg think it's not on the system), because there's a wrong diversion |
| 14:49.23 | jair | stew, ohh but it actually works exactly how I type it: rsync -aP /home/steve/mauroStuff ssh jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/ it copied the directory "mauroStuff" in to the remote machine on /home/jair |
| 14:49.25 | jossver | I am using Ubuntu currently, but #ubuntu nor #kubuntu knows the answer - and in #debian are the dpkg experts |
| 14:49.39 | stew | jair: and tried to copy a file named ssh as well |
| 14:49.42 | azeem | jossver: wrong diversion? |
| 14:50.04 | jossver | azeem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11529 |
| 14:50.09 | madclicker | azeem, http://pastebin.com/642096 |
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| 14:51.08 | jair | stew,ohh so then I need to add the "-e ssh" to specify that I wan to use that application. So then the "rsh" is not recommended? |
| 14:52.13 | stew | jair: "-e ssh" would say to use ssh instead of rsh. by default, on debian, rsh would point to ssh anyway, unless you actually had installed rsh. do you have rsh installed? |
| 14:52.38 | nocturne | how do I set 2 ip's to eth0 ? |
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| 14:52.54 | madclicker | azeem, its mysql-common that brakes it |
| 14:53.10 | jair | stew, nope I do not |
| 14:53.32 | madclicker | azeem, i have "mysql-common-4.1" installed wyth mysql server |
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| 14:53.36 | jair | stew, so the default will be ssh even if I do not specify ssh it will do it with it. |
| 14:53.41 | stew | jair: then omit the ssh |
| 14:53.54 | madclicker | azeem, if i try to install mysql-common it will remove the mysql-server |
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| 14:54.07 | stew | nocturne: look at the "eth0:1" example in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
| 14:54.09 | madclicker | that kind of sucks |
| 14:54.38 | nocturne | stew: if you give me that info, then you know iptools 2 doesnt use that aliasing |
| 14:54.59 | madclicker | anyone has a sasl built for sarge with "authdaemon" compiled? SOS |
| 14:55.00 | nocturne | same goes for kernel 2.6.x ;) |
| 14:55.01 | stew | nocturne: you want to actually add two ips to the same interface? |
| 14:55.17 | nocturne | stew: yea, making a tunnel, so I got another ip |
| 14:55.22 | azeem | madclicker: the paste you show are not sarge's Build-Depends |
| 14:55.46 | stew | nocturne: you can either do what i said earlier or, ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0 |
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| 14:56.02 | stew | nocturne: if you need to do that permanantly, do it in an "up" line in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:56.14 | nocturne | stew: tried the version you said earlier today, server stoped responding. |
| 14:56.20 | stew | nocturne: i'd be suprised though if whatever you are doing doesn't work with an alias |
| 14:56.33 | stew | nocturne: show us the /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:56.44 | nocturne | w8, gonna fix a pastebin |
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| 14:57.11 | jair | stew, I have that done on my virtual apache server: nocturne http://pastebin.com/642109 |
| 14:57.23 | jair | nocturne, check this: http://pastebin.com/642109 |
| 14:57.29 | nocturne | stew: but the important line is ip addr add x.x.x.x/24 |
| 14:57.37 | jair | ohhh |
| 14:57.40 | nocturne | oh and dev eth0 |
| 14:57.49 | stew | nocturne: why can't you use eth0:1? |
| 14:57.55 | jair | nocturne, where is your info?? |
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| 14:58.12 | jair | nocturne, or eth0:0 eth0:1 and so on |
| 14:58.47 | jair | nocturne, show the /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 14:58.50 | nocturne | stew: I havent got a clue, added on of those in /etc/network/interfaces(as I usually do) when I restarted network, the box was dead, had to call a friend to go and restart the box |
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| 14:59.18 | jair | you may need "ifup eth0:1" |
| 14:59.22 | stew | nocturne: did you try to add a default gateway to the alias? |
| 14:59.26 | nocturne | yea |
| 14:59.34 | madclicker | azeem, how can i get the dependecies for cyrus-sasl2? |
| 14:59.44 | stew | nocturne: why? is the box actually multi-homed? |
| 14:59.48 | madclicker | azeem, i tried apt-cache depends but it doesnt work |
| 14:59.57 | azeem | madclicker: do you have a sarge deb-src line? |
| 15:00.20 | azeem | what does apt-cache showsrc cyrus-sasl2 | grep ^Ver say? |
| 15:00.20 | madclicker | azeem, yes |
| 15:00.24 | stew | nocturne: can i see the /etc/network/interfaces that didn't work? |
| 15:00.31 | quiet | hey guys, I'm working on our intranet server here at work. I'm using Debian on it... and.. I was wondering if anyone knew of some places online that could give some good arguments as to 'why I chose Debian' that could be explained to management type people that know nothing about it... |
| 15:00.49 | azeem | !why debian |
| 15:00.49 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 15:00.50 | madclicker | azeem, Version: 2.1.19-1.9 |
| 15:00.58 | azeem | madclicker: that's testing |
| 15:01.06 | azeem | and/or unstable |
| 15:01.27 | madclicker | azeem, i use pinning |
| 15:01.33 | nocturne | stew: I'm on it, phone just rang |
| 15:01.37 | azeem | madclicker: well, you're trying to backport apparently |
| 15:01.42 | azeem | which doesn't work out of the box |
| 15:01.58 | azeem | try apt-get build-dep cyrus-sasl2=2.1.19-1.5 maybe? |
| 15:02.32 | nocturne | stew: http://rafb.net/paste/results/XSgEQQ39.html |
| 15:02.44 | madclicker | azeem, sorry i did the command on my work system, |
| 15:02.53 | nocturne | stew: I'm aware that it isnt auto |
| 15:02.55 | madclicker | azeem, here is the one from the sarge |
| 15:02.58 | madclicker | Version: 2.1.19-1.5 |
| 15:02.58 | madclicker | Version: 2.1.19-1.9 |
| 15:03.00 | quiet | azeem, i dunno who owns dpkg, but the 2nd link isn't valid. |
| 15:03.08 | azeem | quiet: we all do |
| 15:03.14 | quiet | ok. |
| 15:03.20 | cahoot | at least feed it |
| 15:03.33 | azeem | dpkg, no why debian is http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 15:03.33 | dpkg | azeem: what are you talking about? |
| 15:03.38 | azeem | blah |
| 15:03.42 | lepton | quiet: anyone in the channel can edit the dpkg factoids |
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| 15:03.51 | azeem | madclicker: so. |
| 15:03.51 | quiet | really? |
| 15:03.55 | quiet | how todo so? |
| 15:04.01 | lepton | quiet: /msg dpkg help |
| 15:04.05 | quiet | ok |
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| 15:04.09 | azeem | madclicker: what you pasted didn't try to install the build-deps for sarge |
| 15:04.18 | azeem | madclicker: do you have an updated paste to look at? |
| 15:04.27 | stew | nocturne: there is no reason to specify a gateway on eth0:0 and there is no reason to specify a network in any of those (since you are using the standard network address) |
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| 15:04.52 | nocturne | stew: oki I'll remove them |
| 15:04.58 | stew | nocturne: though i'm not sure if that extra gateway line would cause problems |
| 15:05.08 | madclicker | azeem, this is the one from a system that doesnt have "pinning" Version: 2.1.19-1.5 |
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| 15:05.35 | jair | stew, if in this command: rsync -aP jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/mauroStuff /home/steve/ I want to specify that to access the machine remote I need to put the port # i.e. 500? |
| 15:05.53 | jair | stew, rsync -aP "ssh -p 500"jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/mauroStuff /home/steve/ |
| 15:06.03 | azeem | madclicker: what is "this"? |
| 15:06.07 | nvz | o.O |
| 15:06.11 | jair | stew, rsync -aP "ssh -p 500" jair@192.168.1.205:/home/jair/mauroStuff /home/steve/ |
| 15:06.20 | madclicker | azeem, apt-cache showsrc cyrus-sasl2 | grep ^Ver |
| 15:06.25 | azeem | madclicker: right |
| 15:06.36 | azeem | but what is the error message when you try to install the buil-deps? |
| 15:07.29 | stew | jair: no, again, that means to rsync a file named "ssh -p 500", you want rsync -aP jair@192.168.1.205:500/home/jair.... |
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| 15:08.17 | himmelstrutten | hello! is there any program in etch that can save/make powerpoint documents? |
| 15:08.19 | jair | stew, ok but then how do i specify access throw a port external with the number 500 and internal still the same 22 |
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| 15:09.27 | madclicker | azeem, it works if i remove the "pinning" source. I guess it doesnt work when pinning is enabled |
| 15:09.31 | stew | jair: the line i told you specifies 500, you are not trying to access an internal server |
| 15:09.34 | azeem | madclicker: ah, ok |
| 15:10.06 | jair | stew, my apologies I did not noticed that |
| 15:10.12 | jair | stew, let me try it |
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| 15:10.33 | madclicker | azeem, thank you for all your help |
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| 15:11.31 | vin` | himmelstrutten: ooimpress part of openoffice |
| 15:11.45 | treyh0 | i wish i could use all the same KDE and GNU software that i use in linux but on windows, so i can use my laptop without hanging trying to suspend to disk and whatnot :( |
| 15:11.48 | himmelstrutten | vin: ah, aight, thanks! |
| 15:11.52 | cahoot | himmelstrutten: why restrict yourself to pp? look at magick point, latex-beamer (there are more) |
| 15:12.15 | jlt | how do i make '\msg dpkg find' show all occurences? |
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| 15:12.54 | himmelstrutten | cahoot: well well.. of course I would only use GNU program if it was possible - but our school still doesn't. |
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| 15:13.21 | cahoot | himmelstrutten: no pdf readers to use? |
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| 15:14.47 | jair | stew, but the machine that have the port 500 is the one where "/home/jair/Italy2 is" so not space here --rsync -aP jair@192.168.1.205:500/home/jair.... |
| 15:14.47 | himmelstrutten | cahoot: hm. I need to make documents in the .pps format, that's all. I can't use anything else. |
| 15:14.53 | cello | i'm trying to compile a simple c autologin program, and gcc-3.4 won't compile it for some reason :( http://pastebin.com/642126 |
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| 15:15.14 | cello | any ideas? |
| 15:15.42 | vin` | himmelstrutten: pps or ppt? |
| 15:16.15 | stew | jair: i didn't understand that |
| 15:16.55 | himmelstrutten | vin: sorry, ppt |
| 15:17.15 | vin` | evil either way. ;) |
| 15:17.23 | himmelstrutten | thank y'all gotto go! |
| 15:17.25 | Madsy | cello: Is execlp a part of the GNU C standard library? |
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| 15:17.53 | Madsy | I'm asking since I don't see any external linking done :) |
| 15:17.55 | jair | stew, I think that I have to specify the port differently check this error: http://pastebin.com/642154 |
| 15:18.37 | matik | treyh0: check coLinux : http://www.colinux.org |
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| 15:19.46 | cello | Madsy: i dunno but that is a good avenue of enquiry |
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| 15:20.19 | runa | hey :) If I have a multiprocessor machine and I want to know the load average in %, can I use uptime and divide the load by the number of cpus? |
| 15:20.21 | Madsy | cello: And try adding -v to see where gcc/g++ wants your object-file. |
| 15:20.30 | Madsy | verbose output |
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| 15:21.05 | ouznext | runa: imho, the uptime load average is already global for the system |
| 15:21.27 | stew | jair: pcguruji.com doesn't appear to be listening on port 500, i cannot connect either |
| 15:21.48 | Estes2 | Hi everyone :) quick question i got since a long time now...Why on linux some flash animations only display at half ? i got an half of the animation (usualy left half of it.) and the other half has the system's default color... anyone please ? |
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| 15:21.58 | runa | ouznext: mm.. how do you understand a load average of 12 for a dual xeon w/ hyperthreading? |
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| 15:22.44 | cello | Madsy: with -ov i get only "gcc-3.4: autologin: No such file or directory" |
| 15:22.56 | Estes2 | w/ as with or w/ as without |
| 15:22.59 | Estes2 | ? |
| 15:23.07 | stew | runa: for a quad cpu system you can consider a load of 4 to be roughly equiv. to 100% |
| 15:23.11 | Estes2 | because i seen people using both |
| 15:23.30 | runa | stew: ok. that's what I thought |
| 15:23.33 | runa | stew: tnx |
| 15:23.39 | jair | stew, it is listening in the port 5400 |
| 15:23.46 | runa | ouznext: thanks |
| 15:23.56 | Madsy | cello: The snippet you pasted on the pastebin, was that all your code? |
| 15:24.00 | jair | stew, again apologies :) |
| 15:24.14 | abrotman | stew: that's not my understanding |
| 15:24.30 | cello | no, it's somebody elses. more specifically, found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152274 |
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| 15:24.58 | cello | both bed and ubu use gcc-3.4 |
| 15:24.58 | jair | stew, so it is something else I have to do in that command to specify the port 5400 of pcguruji.com |
| 15:25.03 | Madsy | cello: Oh well, then you probably just forgot the include :) |
| 15:25.12 | De_Mon | whats bed? |
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| 15:25.17 | Madsy | cello: include the unistd.h header. |
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| 15:25.46 | cahoot | De_Mon: deb backwrads? |
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| 15:26.22 | cello | i know nothing of C but i will see what i can do about the include |
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| 15:27.18 | karl_ | For some unknown reason ip-down.d scripts are not executed Need a help with that or at least an idea what to debug |
| 15:27.51 | mithro | hi! anyone know of a tool which I can use to pop-up a request each time something tries to access the internet |
| 15:27.58 | treyh0 | matik: thanks, that's nice |
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| 15:28.07 | jair | stew, on this command rsync -aP jair@pcguruji.com:"ssh -p 5400"/home/jair/Italy2 /home/jair/ the part at the end "/home/jair/" is my local machine where I want to paste the directory "Italy2" correct? |
| 15:28.24 | stew | ugh |
| 15:28.29 | Estes2 | mithro, windows-like software ? |
| 15:28.33 | mithro | kind of like the windows firewall tools |
| 15:28.34 | gnu2it2 | i'm trying to install sarge, the console is hung in a loop. "configuring base system... info: switching console charset mapping to C" any idea on how to get this back on track? |
| 15:28.34 | stew | jair: no, that is not correct |
| 15:28.52 | jair | stew, hmm so them that is the problem |
| 15:29.11 | jair | stew, I am in the machine "enigma" in the directory /home/jair/ |
| 15:29.22 | abrotman | karl_: you mean if-down.d ? |
| 15:29.23 | mithro | Estes: yeah |
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| 15:29.43 | fluxdude | debian has no rc.local or boot.local or local.start or anything like that so what do you guys do when you just wanna add something little quick? do you all write you own full init scripts (I know they're not hard - I do them also). just curious. |
| 15:30.22 | Estes2 | mithro, never seen such a thing, i don't even see any need for this. This kind of tool can be efficient in an all spyware fucked-up env like windows, in linux, it's very useless imo |
| 15:30.30 | re-sim | hello |
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| 15:30.41 | Estes2 | mithro, what are you trying to achieve ? |
| 15:30.41 | karl_ | abrotman: No /etc/ppp/ip-down.d |
| 15:30.43 | jair | stew, and I want to connect to the machine "bremen" located at pcguruji.com and copy the directory /home/jair/Italy2 |
| 15:30.44 | cello | Madsy: well, now apparently there is no such file or directory as unstd.h :\ (sorry about posting in the chan but i'm blocked from PM) |
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| 15:30.53 | re-sim | can you help me on pptpd |
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| 15:31.12 | stew | jair: i keep telling you not to put ssh in the command, and i told you how to specify the port |
| 15:31.13 | mithro | Estes: well I have a GPRS connection where I get charged per MB, I want to make sure only the programs I want are access in the internet |
| 15:31.37 | jair | stew, I am trying to copy the directory /home/jair/Italy2 from the remote machine to the /home/jair on the local machine. |
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| 15:31.45 | Pulim | Someone can Help me! |
| 15:31.57 | stew | jair: yes, i gathered |
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| 15:32.04 | Estes2 | mithro, so check your connection with tcpdump, nothing will install unless you specify it |
| 15:32.05 | azeem | Pulim: state your question |
| 15:32.08 | azeem | maybe somebody will answer |
| 15:32.08 | jair | stew, it just simply not working what you told me my friend |
| 15:32.24 | stew | jair: did you change the 500 to a 5400 in the example i gave? |
| 15:32.34 | jair | stew, I will do it right now |
| 15:32.38 | stew | jair: i told you NOT to put ssh in the command, the command you are trying still has "ssh -p" in it |
| 15:32.39 | jair | I did it though |
| 15:32.47 | Pulim | Yesterday I tried to create a partition on a free space of my HD |
| 15:32.47 | stew | jair: what command did you try? |
| 15:32.54 | jair | stew, ok I will remove it and try it again |
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| 15:33.06 | Pulim | I HAd linux on a partition and Win XP in another.. |
| 15:33.10 | mithro | Estes: but normally when on wireless I don't care if everything access the net |
| 15:33.31 | mithro | Estes: and tcpdump doesn't necessarily connect applications to the data |
| 15:33.55 | jair | stew, this one: jair@enigma:~$ rsync -aP jair@pcguruji.com:5400/home/jair/Italy2 /home/jair/ |
| 15:33.55 | Pulim | but when I create the new partition and reeboot my system.. an error has ocurred.. |
| 15:33.57 | Estes2 | mithro, yes, just check with tcpdump or netstat what's accessing the net, shouldn't have anything accessing the net unless you specified it |
| 15:34.09 | stew | jair: and that gives you an error? |
| 15:34.14 | Pulim | WinXP and Linux dont boot |
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| 15:34.27 | jair | stew, it gives me the time out port 22 |
| 15:34.37 | javaJake | How do I add a package to the repos? |
| 15:34.50 | Pulim | Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknnown block (22,3) |
| 15:34.57 | jair | stew, which to me means that the port 5400 external is not being specified |
| 15:34.58 | javaJake | How do I add a package to the _official_ repos? |
| 15:35.02 | Pulim | a message like this appeared |
| 15:35.11 | jms_23 | hello, i have an woody server that i need to upgrade to sarge, i changed (as usual) the sources.list and after an update, a "apt-get -s dist-upgrade" tells me it will remove many packages (like adduser, apache, etc.), does someone have an idea ? |
| 15:35.12 | stew | jair: can i see the exact error message you get? |
| 15:35.35 | jair | stew, yes one sec |
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| 15:36.12 | jair | stew, you can see that the ssh comand works by itself on pcguruji.com ----> try this "ssh -p 5400 jair@pcguruji.com |
| 15:36.28 | stew | jair: yes, i have seen |
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| 15:36.58 | javaJake | Is there someone who knows how to add a package to the repos? |
| 15:37.00 | jair | stew, the command is still processing the result... hold on ok. |
| 15:37.01 | lehel | hello.. to change the resolution in X (XFCE4) i need to edit the XF86Conf ? |
| 15:37.15 | fluxdude | I take it nobody here ever needs to change anything startup wise, maybe add a line of something? |
| 15:37.25 | re-sim | I want to ask something about VPN, is there any body |
| 15:37.33 | jair | stew, here ---> http://pastebin.com/642196 |
| 15:37.33 | nkuttler | javaJake: what repository are you talking about? |
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| 15:37.57 | jair | stew, it is something else about the specification of that port though |
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| 15:38.17 | javaJake | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/audacity/audacity_1.2.3-1_ia64.deb |
| 15:38.20 | javaJake | Oops |
| 15:38.24 | javaJake | ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
| 15:38.27 | javaJake | Or ones like it |
| 15:38.48 | jair | stew, I don't remmeber exactly but I am alsmost sure to seen something like "5400" or "-p 5400" or something like that. |
| 15:38.58 | nkuttler | javaJake: um... by becoming a debian developer |
| 15:39.04 | stew | jair: try adding "-e ssh -p 5400" to the command line |
| 15:39.05 | javaJake | I'm not sure if theirs a way to somehow get the package I want to upload "authenticated" for upload either... |
| 15:39.10 | javaJake | nkuttler, Oh... |
| 15:39.20 | lehel | how is xorg-x11? |
| 15:39.20 | jair | stew, where i will add it? |
| 15:39.21 | javaJake | OK... |
| 15:39.26 | stew | jair: after the -aP |
| 15:39.31 | jair | stew, ok |
| 15:39.40 | nkuttler | javaJake: you can file a bug on the wnpp package and ask if somebody want to add it |
| 15:39.49 | javaJake | nkuttler, OK |
| 15:39.53 | javaJake | Sounds good |
| 15:40.04 | stew | jair: and remove the :5400 from the source path |
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| 15:40.21 | re-sim | Jair hello I wan to ask about pptp may I ask |
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| 15:40.36 | jair | stew, we got it :) |
| 15:40.51 | jair | stew, so I was not to lost :) |
| 15:41.10 | jair | re-sim, pptp I really do not have to much experience about it |
| 15:41.20 | jair | stew, done man it works |
| 15:41.24 | re-sim | thank you jair |
| 15:41.40 | re-sim | Do you know any man for helping me |
| 15:41.55 | jair | re-sim, you want to implement a vpn?? |
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| 15:42.06 | re-sim | yes I want |
| 15:42.59 | re-sim | But always some Problems I want to know if someone can use pptp on Debian,Jair |
| 15:43.05 | sphenxes | I would like to buy a wireless card for my computer, what is the best debain compatible card and where can I find a list of compatible hardware with debian (newbie).? |
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| 15:43.21 | jair | re-sim, I am trying to get that done as well, I will recomend you install debian sarge with two networks cards get a tutorial from the "http://www.netfilter.org/" and "openvpn.net" and couple of gatorades :) |
| 15:43.50 | jair | re-sim, I think you can but check what I told you |
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| 15:43.56 | jair | stew, thank you very much |
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| 15:44.49 | thingfish | !tell sphenxes about hardware |
| 15:44.50 | re-sim | Thanks Jair :) |
| 15:45.15 | jair | re-sim, you always welcome people :) |
| 15:45.27 | sphenxes | !tell hardware |
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| 15:46.22 | thingfish | sphenxes: /msg dpkg foo |
| 15:46.44 | jair | stew, again thank you so much i will be back later have some cable work to do. |
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| 15:49.07 | sphenxes | thanks |
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| 15:53.17 | obscuresoul | hi |
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| 15:54.08 | Bogo | Hello |
| 15:54.15 | Bogo | Ye, now it work's |
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| 15:54.34 | Bogo | Thank's for the helo abrotman |
| 15:54.37 | abrotman | Bogo: finally :) |
| 15:54.38 | Bogo | help |
| 15:54.54 | obscuresoul | when i run "gdmsetup" i get "(gdmsetup:4067): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"...why? |
| 15:55.05 | Bogo | abrotman: had lunch with a freind, so havent tryed all that time =) |
| 15:55.11 | fluxdude | does anybody else miss having a default boot script to put one liners in? |
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| 15:55.29 | abrotman | Bogo: oh ok |
| 15:55.33 | cougar` | How do I mount an smbfs volume using samba so that only a certain person can write to it? Like, username on Windows XP is Ralph, and there's 2 accounts on Debian named Ralph and Sam, but I only want Ralph to be able to write to the PC volume |
| 15:55.33 | abrotman | fluxdude: no |
| 15:55.35 | Bogo | But didn\t go smooth, some how i disabled the internet, so had problem with that to =p |
| 15:55.36 | abrotman | !rc.local |
| 15:55.36 | dpkg | somebody said rc.local was the boot script for BSD/slackware/redhat systems but is considered to be a hack for lazy people. Use the sysvinit method via update-rc.d or read /etc/init.d/README or "man update-rc.d", "apt-get install rcconf", or try "sysvconfig", or /etc/rc.boot/ directory, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file and /etc/init.d/skeleton template. If you don't like SysV, consider file-rc. |
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| 15:56.08 | VulpesFoxnik | Is there any way to get Xorg to take less than 12mb of my ram? |
| 15:56.34 | LSorensen | VulpesFoxnik: run lower resolution with less colours and no graphical applications (just xterm)? |
| 15:56.43 | mngrif | VulpesFoxnik, in top and the like, the ammount shown being taken up by X includes your video card RAM amount |
| 15:56.47 | fluxdude | dpkg: ok then, but it is convienient, I get bored of writing the same scripts to do menial stuff... |
| 15:56.48 | dpkg | fluxdude: what are you talking about? |
| 15:57.00 | nkuttler | cougar`: install the samba-doc package, it's documented |
| 15:57.14 | mngrif | fluxdude, dpkg is a bot ... |
| 15:57.16 | cougar` | I think I have the docs, I think.... |
| 15:57.24 | VulpesFoxnik | mngrif: Ah. I see. |
| 15:57.43 | Bogo | But now for the real problem folk's, I have the grafic-cards in the comupter, on that's integrated and on in the agp-port, i now use the integrated, but can only have resolution 640x480 |
| 15:57.49 | fluxdude | mngrif: i thought that might be the case but no sure way to tell... |
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| 15:58.15 | Bogo | I want to switch to the apg-card, how can i do that? |
| 15:58.17 | bipolar | I have a few built debs that depend on packages not installed. can I use apt-get to install these local files *and* their depandancys? |
| 15:58.28 | obscuresoul | when i run "gdmsetup" i obtain "(gdmsetup:4067): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"...how can i solve this? |
| 15:58.39 | cougar` | nkuttler : By using the username= option right? |
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| 15:59.18 | nkuttler | cougar`: not sure what that does. i use valid users |
| 16:00.04 | cougar` | I can get this to work, but not the way I want. I only want my account on my linux box to write to the drive, no one elses. |
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| 16:00.13 | cougar` | I using dmask and fmask of 777 |
| 16:00.49 | Bogo | How do i make that agp card default for everyting? |
| 16:01.10 | tombs | hi all |
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| 16:01.47 | quiet | here's a quick question i just want some validity on: if I am setting up a website with Joomla CMS, which uses a MySQL database... then /var doesn't have to be as big, because everything will be sotred under /usr in the database? |
| 16:01.56 | quiet | stored* |
| 16:02.00 | priscila | Bogo: did you verified if have any jumper which disable the onboard graphic card? |
| 16:02.15 | priscila | s/have/has |
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| 16:03.16 | Bogo | priscila: don't think there are, don't have a manuel to check, but i dont need it to be default at boot-up, just for all the other tasks, and for all accounts |
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| 16:04.25 | quiet | someone *nod* if I'm correct... MySQL keeps it's databases under /usr, somewhere, yes? |
| 16:04.49 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.49 | stew | quiet: /var/lib/mysql |
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| 16:05.06 | quiet | ah.. okay.. then I should just go ahead and make /var the big partition. |
| 16:05.13 | quiet | that's actually works best.. thanks. |
| 16:06.14 | is_null | hello, mysql-server-5.0 was just installed via apt-get on an unstable debian box, mysql -u root -p returns "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" error, can't find anything helping on mysql forum ... |
| 16:06.25 | stew | quiet: you can of course change where it stores its databases, however /var is good. you can generally think of /var as being there so that /usr can be mounted read-only |
| 16:06.35 | quiet | ahh.. ok |
| 16:06.43 | Adel | hello |
| 16:07.52 | Adel | we speack eng??? |
| 16:08.04 | abrotman | aye we do |
| 16:08.07 | abrotman | !es |
| 16:08.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:08.34 | Bogo | Is there a swedish debian-channel? |
| 16:08.42 | abrotman | !se |
| 16:08.42 | dpkg | it has been said that se is Anslut till #debian.se för att snacka svenska, skriv /join debian.se |
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| 16:09.07 | Adel | baffle: hi |
| 16:09.07 | Bogo | Thanks abrotman |
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| 16:11.02 | Adel | . |
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| 16:12.58 | Adel | Adrian: hello |
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| 16:14.13 | Adel | , |
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| 16:14.47 | Adel | ÷¸ âû âñå ïðèñîåäèíÿåòåñü à íà îáùàåòåñü |
| 16:14.54 | Eclipser | riight |
| 16:14.57 | Eclipser | try that in english |
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| 16:15.28 | Adel | Eclipser: hi |
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| 16:17.24 | bipolar | how long does a reportbug report take to show up in the bug system? |
| 16:17.33 | Eclipser | years |
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| 16:17.52 | stew | bipolar: i believe it runs every half hour |
| 16:18.18 | bipolar | I wish there was an easier way to report bugs.... I thought there was a web interface to add bugs.... |
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| 16:18.30 | abrotman | bipolar: use webmail? :) |
| 16:18.33 | stew | bipolar: no, becuase we want a return address for the submitter |
| 16:18.34 | bipolar | lol |
| 16:18.47 | Bogo | I have a problem guys, i have to working network-cards in the computer, both worked under windows, but now in debian, i only can find on of thoes, do you know have i can detect the other one and install it? it's a realtek or 3com card. |
| 16:18.53 | Adel | bipolar: hi |
| 16:18.59 | bipolar | stew: reportbug didn't ask me for my email. it sent it as root@localhost.localdomain :\ |
| 16:19.03 | bipolar | Adel: hiya |
| 16:19.23 | bipolar | stew: or maybe I just wasn't observent enough :P |
| 16:19.37 | stew | bipolar: yeah, you should have fixed that. are you sure it actually got sent? did you get a bounce? is it sitting in the outbound queue? |
| 16:20.22 | bipolar | stew: I wouldn't get a bounce since the email address is non routeable... |
| 16:20.39 | Adel | bipolar: you from Avstral |
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| 16:21.00 | stew | bipolar: you would get a bounce if your local smtp didn't want to route it |
| 16:21.02 | bipolar | Adel: Whats Avstral? |
| 16:21.03 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
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| 16:21.23 | stew | bipolar: you should set one of EMAIL/REPORTBUGEMAIL/DEBEMAIL env vars before running reportbug to a routable address |
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| 16:21.54 | bipolar | stew: yes, it bounced. |
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| 16:22.34 | stew | bipolar: and you probably shouldnt' be running reportbug as root in the first place |
| 16:22.37 | Adel | bipolarbi country |
| 16:22.39 | bipolar | stew: I would think reportbug should ask for your email. just running the command doesn't mention anything about it. :\ |
| 16:22.47 | abrotman | UdontKnow: you didn't ahve to leave! |
| 16:22.51 | bipolar | stew: yeah, but it's a test box... eh... |
| 16:23.00 | Prudhvi | Hi, which is the Debian Mirror that is always Up-to-date ? |
| 16:23.08 | stew | bipolar: it's mentioned in the manpage |
| 16:23.10 | Fox_1_ | in crontab i write */2 * * * * * username /script | mail username@domain.com -s UserNameScript , but it didn't send the /script output text to username@domain.com? what's wring? |
| 16:23.11 | Adel | bipolar: there you from |
| 16:23.11 | UdontKnow | abrotman: ETOOMANYCHANNELS ;) |
| 16:23.12 | abrotman | they all should be .. hence the name mirror |
| 16:23.13 | Prudhvi | I mean the base Mirrir |
| 16:23.19 | abrotman | UdontKnow: but .. damog is crying! |
| 16:23.25 | bipolar | Adel: PA, US |
| 16:23.29 | UdontKnow | abrotman: 60 channels isnt good enough if I want to do anything productive |
| 16:23.38 | abrotman | UdontKnow: hehe |
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| 16:23.39 | UdontKnow | now I am down to 40 |
| 16:23.40 | abrotman | bipolar: and the phillies still suck! |
| 16:23.40 | UdontKnow | better |
| 16:23.44 | Adel | bipolar: what is pa? |
| 16:23.52 | abrotman | Adel: Pennsylvania |
| 16:23.55 | Fox_1_ | i want that all output information send to mail. how to do that?? |
| 16:23.57 | abrotman | :phillysmite bipolar |
| 16:23.59 | bipolar | abrotman: they always have... philly sucks |
| 16:24.00 | abrotman | !phillysmite bipolar |
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| 16:24.05 | Adel | bipolar: give me money |
| 16:24.06 | abrotman | bipolar: you're a yinzer? |
| 16:24.06 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 16:24.10 | damog | abrotman: And what is Pennsylvania? |
| 16:24.18 | abrotman | damog: Penn's Woods of course |
| 16:24.19 | Prudhvi | abrotman what is the base Mirror? . i need to download the SID-DVD but, most of the mirrors are out of sync |
| 16:24.28 | damog | abrotman: is it like Castlevania? |
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| 16:24.32 | abrotman | Prudhvi: cdimage.debian.org |
| 16:24.34 | yoo | Appenrently ipraf don't work with ra0 (ralink chipset) |
| 16:24.43 | abrotman | damog: no |
| 16:24.53 | yoo | Somebody know a soft who do the same thing that iptraf ? |
| 16:25.00 | Prudhvi | abrotman i want to use Jigdo for that :) |
| 16:25.05 | Fox_1_ | ?? |
| 16:25.07 | damog | abrotman: is it like Trannsylvania? |
| 16:25.15 | abrotman | damog: no .. it's better! |
| 16:25.19 | Adel | bipolar: a am from Russia |
| 16:25.52 | Adel | bipolar: hello |
| 16:26.09 | bipolar | Adel: sorry... I'm doing a lot of things right now. |
| 16:26.33 | Adel | bipolar: your number? |
| 16:26.43 | simonrvn | excuse me? |
| 16:26.44 | bipolar | Adel: what number? |
| 16:26.53 | abrotman | Adel: this is not a dating channel |
| 16:27.01 | Fox_1_ | in crontab i write */2 * * * * * username /script | mail username@domain.com -s UserNameScript , but it didn't send the /script output text to username@domain.com? what's wring? |
| 16:27.15 | bipolar | lol wtf omfg |
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| 16:28.09 | Adel | bipolar: your mobile |
| 16:28.19 | bipolar | Adel: um... no. |
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| 16:29.00 | Adel | 88553396630 my number |
| 16:29.13 | Fox_1_ | Adel: go to http://findadultfriends.com/ looool :) |
| 16:29.17 | simonrvn | Adel: stop that. go away this isn't a dating channel |
| 16:29.31 | bipolar | Adel: why would I want to call it? this is way off topic for this channel. |
| 16:29.39 | quiet | Adel, it's just ringing.. |
| 16:29.56 | Adel | fuck you i dont speack eng Russia forever!!!! |
| 16:30.09 | Adel | . |
| 16:30.15 | quiet | *nod* |
| 16:30.17 | bipolar | lol.... isn't this channel logged? google probbly cached it already |
| 16:30.19 | Fox_1_ | Adel: idi ti na XUI TVAR http://findadultfriends.com/ looool :) |
| 16:30.22 | baroni | Hi all. How is possible to download recursively just the files under a specific directory in some url? like that: wget -r http://<addr>/dir1/dir2 BUT this is downloading the whole site in <addr> .. some idea? |
| 16:30.25 | Adel | by |
| 16:30.37 | Fox_1_ | Adel: tebe gavarat gava otsudava |
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| 16:30.52 | quiet | baroni, man wget |
| 16:31.08 | baroni | quiet: I haven't found there |
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| 16:31.16 | baroni | too much long |
| 16:31.41 | bipolar | WTF was that all about? sheesh.... |
| 16:31.46 | baroni | 1593 lines |
| 16:31.50 | simonrvn | baroni: -np |
| 16:32.04 | Fox_1_ | people howto send output information to email address? |
| 16:32.13 | simonrvn | well, they left.. |
| 16:32.25 | quiet | Fox_1_, smtp? |
| 16:32.47 | simonrvn | i hated doing it that way, but we tried nicely first |
| 16:32.52 | quiet | Fox_1_, are you talking about like, sending a confirmation from a website form or something? |
| 16:32.58 | baroni | simonrvn: thanks but that don't worked |
| 16:33.05 | Fox_1_ | it doesn't metter |
| 16:33.09 | Fox_1_ | sorry |
| 16:33.31 | Fox_1_ | quiet: no i want that cron send me all tasks output texts |
| 16:33.33 | baroni | simonrvn: it just download the "index.html", but not all the files under that directory |
| 16:33.38 | simonrvn | baroni: man wget; doesn't fetch parent dirs. might want to look at all the options |
| 16:33.54 | quiet | Fox_1_, ohh.. so you just mean like, system mail? |
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| 16:34.06 | quiet | sent to some place other than 'root' ? |
| 16:34.07 | DevilChaos | hello |
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| 16:34.23 | Fox_1_ | yes |
| 16:34.25 | elirips | hello. i just did an ifup etho and got this: 'DHCPACK from 192.168.1.1 |
| 16:34.25 | elirips | ; SIOCSIFADDR: File exists |
| 16:34.26 | elirips | ; bound to 192.168.1.20 -- renewal in 150 seconds. |
| 16:34.26 | elirips | ' but ifconfig says: inet addr:169.254.70.234? Why dont I get my normal address, but a windows-like-address? |
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| 16:34.31 | Fox_1_ | to another user |
| 16:34.33 | DevilChaos | how good is debian at picking up external sound cards? |
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| 16:34.49 | DevilChaos | anyone here got one? |
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| 16:35.26 | DevilChaos | i cant get the right drivers for the built in sond on my main board |
| 16:35.34 | Fox_1_ | quiet: so? |
| 16:35.37 | quiet | Fox_1_, I believe it asks when you configure your MTA to add another user to recieve system mail... might want to try dpkg-reconfigure mta ? |
| 16:35.46 | cahoot | DevilChaos: you don't mean pci cards? |
| 16:35.52 | DevilChaos | no |
| 16:35.52 | quiet | such as exim4 |
| 16:36.04 | DevilChaos | cahoot : external pnp |
| 16:36.07 | Fox_1_ | quiet: MTA or cron? |
| 16:36.28 | quiet | whats your mta?? probably exim4 if you left default? |
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| 16:36.37 | Fox_1_ | exim4 |
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| 16:36.39 | simonrvn | exim4-config |
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| 16:37.24 | quiet | Fox_1_, i'm not sure if you can add en external email address as the secondary user or not... never tried...I assume you could though? |
| 16:37.41 | Fox_1_ | no, i didn't want to change any configuration. |
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| 16:37.54 | Fox_1_ | i need shell command line |
| 16:38.02 | cahoot | DevilChaos: usb also wrong? |
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| 16:38.16 | DevilChaos | no think usb is ok |
| 16:38.22 | jsizzle | where can I find a list of valid vga=??? params for grub? I do vga=ask and always pick the same one and I'd like to save a step and just put the vga=whatIwant so I don't have to pick everytime, or will stock kernels do framebuffer? thx in adv |
| 16:38.27 | Fox_1_ | can mail programm get message body from cat or tail?? |
| 16:38.49 | DevilChaos | would debian pick it up through usb? i had to fresh install again coz i had a broken system |
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| 16:39.02 | stew | Fox_1_: do you want all scripts in this crontab to email output to the same person? |
| 16:39.08 | cahoot | DevilChaos: no problems using an usb headset (if that counts) |
| 16:39.26 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 16:39.26 | dpkg | [tetrinet] probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 16:39.34 | DevilChaos | what kind of headset? |
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| 16:39.51 | Fox_1_ | stew: no, one to kikos, second one to martiros ... :) |
| 16:40.07 | DevilChaos | im just asking because im going to buy one |
| 16:40.20 | jair | anyone here has ever play or try to install a "radio Station" using shoutcast on a debian server? |
| 16:40.24 | DevilChaos | not a headset a sound card |
| 16:40.31 | cahoot | DevilChaos: forgot the name - but I don't really think the make matters much |
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| 16:41.09 | DevilChaos | oh well its only gonna cost me 30 quid and if it doesnt work ill sell it on e-bay |
| 16:41.12 | quiet | jair, look at icecast |
| 16:41.58 | cahoot | DevilChaos: you could do a search on alsa.user mailing list |
| 16:42.16 | Fox_1_ | ? |
| 16:42.58 | DevilChaos | for the drivers for the one i need yeah how do i do that sorry not done that before!? |
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| 16:43.38 | DevilChaos | throgh pan? |
| 16:43.45 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 16:43.51 | Eulex | pain? |
| 16:44.14 | DevilChaos | pan |
| 16:44.28 | DevilChaos | news reader |
| 16:44.33 | Fox_1_ | any ideas? |
| 16:44.39 | jair | quiet, hey but have you try the one I ask for "shoutcast"? |
| 16:44.51 | jair | quiet, I will check that one now |
| 16:45.00 | Eulex | DevilChaos, checked alsa-project.org? |
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| 16:45.12 | quiet | jair, i have not... everyone I have talked to said that icecast works better/easier... |
| 16:45.13 | serprime | hi.. i've installed badwm, and now i don't know how to tell gdm to load it. can someone help me pls |
| 16:45.13 | DevilChaos | thats another thanks eulex |
| 16:45.50 | zamaliphe | evry time i try to upgrade kde prog using apt-get apt try to upgrade the all system ??can i force apt to apgrade one kde prog only like amarok?? |
| 16:45.51 | jair | quiet, haha is because the one from winamp needs to have a glibc6 to work and I am not sure if debian stable has it. |
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| 16:46.30 | quiet | winamp doesn't make shoutcast. |
| 16:46.36 | quiet | nullsoft does. |
| 16:46.47 | chealer | zamaliphe: yes. what's your native language? |
| 16:46.55 | blafd | wtf |
| 16:46.59 | DevilChaos | heh eulex its not supported |
| 16:47.07 | DevilChaos | driver not written yet |
| 16:47.11 | cahoot | DevilChaos: looks like for the time being there's support for usb2 audiowise |
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| 16:47.18 | blafd | and i do detect shit talking |
| 16:47.22 | zamaliphe | chealer arbic |
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| 16:47.30 | DevilChaos | adiowise? |
| 16:47.43 | DevilChaos | im crap at typing like |
| 16:47.49 | chealer | zamaliphe: OK |
| 16:47.51 | DevilChaos | pisses me off |
| 16:48.08 | elirips | hello people, i try it again, with avoiding using multiple lines: eth0 is configured to use dhcp. my router gives my the address 192.168.1.20. while ifup i get the message SIOCSIFADDR: File exists. then bound to 192.168.1.20. but ifconfig says i have 169.254.70.234? |
| 16:48.32 | cahoot | DevilChaos: you'll be limited to usb1 bandwidth - probably good enough for ordinary use though |
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| 16:48.36 | quiet | blafd, sarge has libc6 |
| 16:48.48 | jair | quiet, correct sorry nullsoft make winamp too. |
| 16:49.00 | DevilChaos | ok so the driver or the vender is audiowise? |
| 16:49.04 | zamaliphe | chealer do you know how to upgrade one kde program only like amarok without have to upgrade the all kde??? |
| 16:49.31 | jair | I know i a command that we can use to check in the irc I think is "apt" the bot that will tell me if sarge have libc6 or glibc6 |
| 16:49.42 | azeem | jair: there's no glibc6 |
| 16:49.52 | cahoot | DevilChaos: no meant 'when it comes to audio devices' |
| 16:49.56 | jair | azeem, something similar or that will work like it? |
| 16:50.03 | azeem | libc6 |
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| 16:50.09 | chealer | zamaliphe: yes. please don't use excessive punctuation like "???" when asking questions here. you can simply upgrade the amarok package |
| 16:50.17 | DevilChaos | oh oops sorry |
| 16:50.18 | azeem | jair: but that is installed already |
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| 16:50.21 | jair | azeem, it is a compiler for debian>> |
| 16:50.29 | azeem | jair: was that a question? |
| 16:50.53 | cahoot | DevilChaos: Edirol and Terratec are mentioned as brands |
| 16:51.09 | Fox_1_ | i have found the way. |
| 16:51.09 | jair | azeem, nope but I am looking for it because the server I want to run on a debian machine "shoutcast" require the glibc6 |
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| 16:51.24 | DevilChaos | terratec is bout 200 bucks too dear |
| 16:51.32 | azeem | jair: there is no glibc6, as I said already |
| 16:51.36 | lepton | elirips: do you have "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 16:52.17 | elirips | lepton, yes. seems it is bug #314819 (I'm using testing) |
| 16:52.31 | fluxdude | does anybody know if I can send syslogd logs to a network host on tcp or a udp port other than the orig. ip:port doesn't work... |
| 16:52.32 | buht-w | help please, i have an apt-get upgrade issue, and --fix-missing isnt helping :( "gnome-session: Depends: gnome-panel (>= 1.4.0.2-3) but it is not going to be installed" ... i am willing to copy to pastebin... ive tried clean, autoclean, fix-missing, force, etc |
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| 16:52.38 | elirips | lepton, just found it in the bts.. |
| 16:52.40 | jair | azeem, that means that i can't install that server on debian then? |
| 16:52.44 | buht-w | etch |
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| 16:53.15 | azeem | jair: uhm, can you point us to an URL or so where it says you need "glibc6"? |
| 16:53.21 | elirips | lepton, i'm wondering about the message SIOCADDRT: File exists - seems like something does not get deleted when it should - if I only knew what file :P |
| 16:53.25 | jair | quiet, it looks like I can not install "shoutcast" on debian sarge... |
| 16:53.27 | DevilChaos | cahoot: thanks anyway that good to know |
| 16:53.52 | lepton | elirips: do you have zeroconf installed/ |
| 16:54.02 | elirips | lepton, i'm just removing it :) |
| 16:54.13 | DevilChaos | hey everybody i almost forgot its my birthday today:) |
| 16:54.24 | cahoot | we too |
| 16:54.25 | elirips | lepton, it is something i dont like anyway, if i dont get an ip i dont want anything to auto-assign something... |
| 16:54.56 | lepton | elirips: I agree |
| 16:55.02 | jair | azeem, http://www.shoutcast.com/download/files.phtml |
| 16:55.05 | DevilChaos | had to go to work the day though :( |
| 16:55.08 | simonrvn | DevilChaos: happy birthday |
| 16:55.21 | azeem | jair: that means you need libc6, as expected |
| 16:55.25 | DevilChaos | than you |
| 16:55.28 | DevilChaos | k |
| 16:55.33 | azeem | which is, as I said, already installed |
| 16:55.34 | DevilChaos | bit missing :) |
| 16:55.45 | jair | azeem, ohh ok so then I am all set I do have the libc6 on debian |
| 16:55.55 | chealer | buht-w: what does $ apt-cache policy gnome-session; output? |
| 16:56.04 | buht-w | chealer, checking... |
| 16:56.22 | buht-w | chealer, ill pastebin |
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| 16:56.41 | chealer | buht-w: it's not necessary to warn me. just show me the URL |
| 16:56.42 | jair | quiet, but the one you gave me works pretty cool the one from icecast :) |
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| 16:56.55 | jair | quiet, I am listening from it right now |
| 16:57.09 | buht-w | chealer, lol http://pastebin.com/642379 |
| 16:57.46 | lepton | elirips: it looks like zeroconf is mostly useful for laptop users who need hand-holding. you don't need it :) |
| 16:57.51 | quiet | jair, good :) |
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| 16:58.20 | jair | quiet, i will be installing it very soon :) |
| 16:58.27 | quiet | hrm... why does apt-get upgrade say the kernel image and kernel headers are kept back?? even dist-upgrade says that |
| 16:58.32 | elirips | lepton, well, i am a laptop user, but if i want to have a 169.. ip to connect to some other OS ;) I'll configure it myself |
| 16:58.57 | stew | lepton: i believe that gnome-vfs now depends on zeroconf somehow |
| 16:59.01 | lepton | elirips: right, like I said, you don't need it. happy networking ;-) |
| 16:59.04 | chealer | buht-w: please post the issue you were referring to |
| 16:59.18 | elirips | lepton, yep, its working now nice. thank you for your help! |
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| 17:00.25 | jms_23 | a+ |
| 17:01.17 | Prudhvi | oops what is this? i downloaded the jigdo files for etch and every mirror says HTTP 404 ? |
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| 17:02.26 | buht-w | chealer, http://pastebin.com/642390 |
| 17:02.34 | chealer | Prudhvi: when? |
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| 17:02.48 | Prudhvi | chealer, now |
| 17:03.00 | chealer | Prudhvi: when doing what? |
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| 17:03.38 | Prudhvi | chealer i downloaded the Unofficial jigdo files from fsn.hu and no mirror seems to have atleast one File, that the jigdo template contains |
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| 17:04.55 | buht-w | chealer, btw, im happy to completely remove gnome, kde or anything X related... not sure who put it there or why it is there but its a console only machine serving as a webserver... wanted to mention that in case u have a forceful way of removing the packages in apt, i wont mind |
| 17:05.26 | chealer | buht-w: gnome-session seems to be failing to remove. you could try # apt-get remove gnome-session; to confirm, although that would apparently remove a lot of GNOME |
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| 17:06.20 | chealer | Prudhvi: ah. what are these files (URLs)? |
| 17:06.21 | Prudhvi | chealer, any ideas about the Situation or what Steps are needed to follow ? |
| 17:06.43 | buht-w | chealer, im sure ive tried this. ill do it again and pastebin again |
| 17:07.06 | chealer | buht-w: OK. BTW you can simply paste the command and its full output |
| 17:07.15 | Prudhvi | chealer the .jidgo and .template files for jigdo. and ran it with almost all mirrors like Japan, India, US, Italy etc. But, every Server returns HTTP 404 |
| 17:07.16 | buht-w | np |
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| 17:07.41 | buht-w | chealer, http://pastebin.com/642404 |
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| 17:08.27 | chealer | Prudhvi: the last time I use jigdo was long ago, so if you can't figure out for which files the 404 happens, sorry but I don't feel like digging in jigdo again, maybe someone else can help you |
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| 17:09.00 | Prudhvi | chealer, 404 Happens for Every file. |
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| 17:09.13 | chealer | Prudhvi: such as? |
| 17:09.37 | chealer | buht-w: the system has broken packages, right? |
| 17:10.00 | buht-w | chealer, sure seems like it, and -f install or --fix-missing fails |
| 17:10.10 | buht-w | chealer, also after clean and autoclean |
| 17:10.12 | Prudhvi | chealer can i paste the 3 line output here? |
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| 17:10.30 | chealer | Prudhvi: 3 line is borderline, consider pastebin |
| 17:11.06 | abrotman | Prudhvi: you could make a song out of that |
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| 17:12.10 | chealer | buht-w: FYI, clean and autoclean are not related to installations or removals, they just affect disk space usage |
| 17:12.14 | Prudhvi | chealer http://pastebin.com/642415 |
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| 17:13.06 | buht-w | chealer, ok. |
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| 17:14.18 | Prudhvi | anybody here using jigdo right now ? |
| 17:14.30 | Daveman | hey abrotman, you around? |
| 17:14.37 | abrotman | hi |
| 17:14.57 | abrotman | Daveman: ? |
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| 17:15.32 | Daveman | abrotman, any idea why init is being a pita off a fresh netinst? |
| 17:15.40 | abrotman | need more details |
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| 17:15.53 | abrotman | which kernel? and any errors? |
| 17:16.00 | re-sim | hello is there anyone use and implement pptp for VPN |
| 17:16.16 | Daveman | abrotman keeps trying to respawn a million times so the kernel keeps having to halt it every five minutes or so... 2.6.8 |
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| 17:16.28 | chealer | buht-w: I'm not sure if that will be helpful, but what does # apt-get check; output? |
| 17:16.31 | Daveman | and it's the default, from the base |
| 17:16.32 | abrotman | oh .. init respawning too fast? |
| 17:17.01 | Daveman | abrotman, yes. |
| 17:17.22 | re-sim | hello is there anyone use and implement pptp for VPN |
| 17:17.52 | chealer | Prudhvi: debian-32-i386-binary-1.iso doesn't look like a valid name for a Debian ISO |
| 17:17.57 | abrotman | Daveman: google had nothing ? |
| 17:18.13 | abrotman | Daveman: did you try a 2.6 and a 2.4 ? |
| 17:18.30 | chealer | Prudhvi: IIRC, jigdo is not very friendly, so make you haven't entered some wrong information |
| 17:18.52 | chealer | Prudhvi: s/make/make sure |
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| 17:19.17 | buht-w | chealer, http://pastebin.com/642428 |
| 17:19.43 | abrotman | Daveman: some seem to suggest your clock is biffed |
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| 17:20.20 | abrotman | Daveman: or this : http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/09.24.shtml |
| 17:20.49 | Daveman | eh? |
| 17:21.26 | chealer | buht-w: that may be an unoptimal method, but does removing sawfish-gnome succeed? |
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| 17:21.37 | abrotman | Daveman: you're not canadian |
| 17:22.04 | Daveman | rofl |
| 17:22.19 | Daveman | abrotman, indeed. |
| 17:22.41 | Daveman | abrotman yeah seems like the typical netinst has yet to make strides in that dept :) |
| 17:22.42 | Daveman | oh well |
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| 17:23.37 | abrotman | Daveman: will it fix the issue ? |
| 17:23.46 | unstable | Is testing installer a gui? |
| 17:23.49 | buht-w | chealer, this one i also tried but possibly with other packages... 1 sec |
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| 17:24.06 | Eulex | unstable, yes, there's an alpha gui installer |
| 17:24.06 | Daveman | abrotman, what/which, the solution you mentioned? |
| 17:24.18 | Eulex | unstable, the normal beta etch installer is non-gui |
| 17:24.56 | buht-w | chealer, just tried with several packages.. http://pastebin.com/642435 |
| 17:24.57 | abrotman | Daveman: either :) |
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| 17:25.11 | abrotman | unstable: it has one available .. but it's not part of beta2 |
| 17:25.31 | Daveman | abrotman, yeah, it's just that the inst is up to it's same 'old crap last time I used it... unfortunately... reboots from disk, missing [lame "Hi how are you"] files, etc etc, good thing I never bothered with that crap anyway ;) |
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| 17:28.54 | chealer | buht-w: grr, what if you try something like # apt-get remove sawfish-gnome gnome-session; ? |
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| 17:32.28 | Daveman | abrotman, who writes these silly scripts anyway ;) |
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| 17:32.39 | abrotman | nfc |
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| 17:33.26 | Daveman | :| |
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| 17:37.10 | ryushe | Hi therre, trying to install the php4-interbase package, but this also wants to install the libfirebirds-super package. I have a custom firebird 1.5 install tho. How can I force apt to install the php4-interbase package without also installing the firebird one? |
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| 17:37.48 | ryushe | I tried hoplding the package via dselect, but that still wants to install it when I try installing the php4-interbase package ... :( |
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| 17:39.24 | haakonn_ | my debian sarge needs libsvn_swig_py-1.so.0, but i can't seem to find out which package provides it. can anyone help out a poor soul? |
| 17:39.44 | Daveman | abrotman, how's your day going? |
| 17:39.54 | abrotman | Daveman: oh just peachy |
| 17:40.01 | Daveman | good to hear :) |
| 17:40.17 | unstable | haakonn_: apt-get install python2.3-subversion |
| 17:40.46 | haakonn_ | unstable: but i have that already, and none of the said file |
| 17:40.56 | unstable | haakonn_: What version of debian? |
| 17:41.08 | Daveman | oh yay, time to build a new kernel |
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| 17:41.12 | haakonn_ | unstable: sarge |
| 17:41.23 | haakonn_ | unstable: dpkg -L also says it doesn't have the file |
| 17:41.49 | haakonn_ | (sarge, 3.1, whatever) |
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| 17:42.06 | haakonn_ | have i messed up my sources.list perhaps? |
| 17:42.22 | unstable | haakonn_: I'm not sure I am using unstable so the package might be different for me. |
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| 17:42.44 | unstable | haakonn_: What are you trying to do?(ultimately) |
| 17:42.44 | buht-w | chealer, sorry back, trying that now |
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| 17:43.02 | haakonn_ | unstable: getting a trac installation working |
| 17:43.04 | unstable | haakonn_: apt-get install libsvn0 |
| 17:43.10 | haakonn_ | unstable: i have libsvn0 too |
| 17:43.40 | unstable | haakonn_: ls /usr/lib/libsvn_swig_py-1.so.0 |
| 17:43.43 | unstable | Does it exist? |
| 17:43.49 | Bac0n | i disable sshd password auth..... how do i dpkg-reconfigure ..... it |
| 17:43.53 | haakonn_ | unstable: no |
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| 17:44.07 | Daveman | yay |
| 17:44.41 | unstable | haakonn_: type this... "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get install libsvn0; |
| 17:44.50 | unstable | haakonn_: And show me results on www.rafb.net/paste |
| 17:44.58 | buht-w | chealer, http://pastebin.com/642475 |
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| 17:46.25 | haakonn_ | unstable: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/8UwHqL58.html |
| 17:46.47 | chealer | buht-w: well, both of these packages' prerm scripts appear to be broken |
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| 17:47.32 | chealer | haakonn_: what does $ dpkg -L libsvn0|grep libsvn_swig_py-1; output? |
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| 17:47.56 | haakonn_ | chealer: nothing |
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| 17:48.50 | chealer | haakonn_: what does $ dpkg -l libsvn0|grep ii; output? |
| 17:49.15 | haakonn_ | chealer: "ii libsvn0 1.2.3dfsg1-2bp shared libraries used by Subversion (aka. sv" |
| 17:49.26 | chealer | haakonn_: you don't have stable's libsvn0 |
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| 17:49.42 | haakonn_ | chealer: ooh, i guess i have backports |
| 17:49.47 | buht-w | chealer, not an easy one is it :( |
| 17:49.55 | chealer | haakonn_: looks pretty much like that |
| 17:50.08 | chealer | buht-w: not really, unless the BTS comes to the rescue |
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| 17:50.17 | buht-w | chealer, the bts? |
| 17:50.23 | chealer | !tell buht-w about bts |
| 17:50.49 | buht-w | damn :( |
| 17:51.00 | buht-w | chealer, thanks for trying |
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| 17:53.09 | buht-w | i think that pc is hosed |
| 17:54.02 | haakonn_ | chealer, unstable: well, thanks for your assistance. turns out extracting the .so file from stable's libsvn0 into the right location solves my problem. a bit messy, but works :) |
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| 17:54.03 | chealer | haakonn_: hehe |
| 17:54.24 | haakonn_ | if only upgrading subversion wasn't such a PITA |
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| 17:56.05 | unstable | haakonn_: Is this a desktop or a production server? |
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| 17:56.32 | haakonn_ | unstable: production (where the "producer" is me, privately) :) |
| 17:57.16 | haakonn_ | (don't ever hire me as a server admin) |
| 17:57.40 | unstable | haakonn_: What runs on your box? are you just playing or what? |
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| 17:58.11 | haakonn_ | unstable: apache, svn |
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| 17:58.40 | unstable | haakonn_: Why don't you just upgrade to testing. |
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| 17:59.07 | haakonn_ | unstable: scared of getting into trouble, and i don't have physical access |
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| 18:00.46 | haakonn_ | why sigh? |
| 18:01.05 | Daveman | people shouldn't write shitty scripts for release :P |
| 18:01.12 | Daveman | among other things... |
| 18:01.30 | haakonn_ | oh :) yeah, people suck |
| 18:01.40 | abrotman | unstable: can you stop doing that |
| 18:01.50 | Daveman | :) |
| 18:02.08 | Daveman | unstable, is most likely unstable? |
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| 18:02.34 | abrotman | both testing and unstable are really shitty choices for production systems(unless you know how to fix it yourself) |
| 18:03.25 | haakonn_ | abrotman: that's the impression i've gotten. what i want is something that runs and works and doesn't give me any trouble, nothing more |
| 18:03.38 | abrotman | so use stable |
| 18:03.42 | haakonn_ | i do :) |
| 18:03.47 | Daveman | yep |
| 18:03.48 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.53 | haakonn_ | with a couple of backports |
| 18:03.58 | azeem | haakonn_: sounds fine |
| 18:04.07 | Daveman | abrotman, fixed the scripts! because it was annoying me |
| 18:04.14 | abrotman | Daveman: which scripts? |
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| 18:04.28 | Daveman | base-config scripts ;p |
| 18:04.30 | Daveman | haha |
| 18:04.33 | abrotman | oh |
| 18:05.14 | abrotman | what .. you mean i'm the only run running Xorg7 on all his servers and connecting via VNC ? |
| 18:05.25 | Daveman | abrotman: haha |
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| 18:06.51 | npx | I just installed the cupsys package, what is the default cups administrator password? |
| 18:07.01 | abrotman | i bet the docs say |
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| 18:08.29 | Daveman | hallowed are the docs |
| 18:08.36 | vrt | hello, is there a channel on ipsec/freeswan ? |
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| 18:12.37 | saintiss | hi |
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| 18:12.55 | saintiss | I've got etch running, and the ati drivers... direct rendering says "yes", but glxgears is going very slow |
| 18:13.02 | saintiss | maybe I need fglrx-driver, but I can't find it with apt |
| 18:13.06 | saintiss | any hints? |
| 18:13.13 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 18:13.13 | dpkg | [ati debs] http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 18:14.10 | vrt | guys, any channels on ipsec? i tried #freeswan, #ipsec in vain :( |
| 18:14.16 | unstable | abrotman: That guide is old. And it says at the beginning not to use it. |
| 18:14.26 | unstable | !ipsec |
| 18:14.26 | dpkg | well, ipsec is implemented for Linux with FreeS/WAN, or at http://www.freeswan.org/ IP Security, it allows you to do things like encrypt and authenticate and compress IP streams between two nodes/networks on the fly (kernel level), or even supported by >= Windows 2000, so you should know what it is, or for the love of $DEITY, include the cryptoapi stuff as 'Y' instead of 'M' or, you're screwed. |
| 18:14.26 | azeem | saintiss: what fps does glxgears say? |
| 18:14.27 | saintiss | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:14.33 | abrotman | unstable: so what .. you keep telling people to use unstable for servers .. who are you to talk ? |
| 18:14.44 | saintiss | azeem: 459 |
| 18:14.53 | abrotman | unstable: i don't see where it says not to use it |
| 18:14.55 | Daveman | hahaha take that udev! >:) |
| 18:14.57 | abrotman | saintiss: what card do you have ? |
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| 18:15.13 | saintiss | abrotman: Radeon 9100 IGP |
| 18:15.16 | Thunderguy | Hey I'm gonna make a WALL of Linux distro's and I wanted to put Debian Unstable and Stable on the wall, I need some tips with how I would create a couple cd's for each that would install a base system, and then have all the repositories on there for apt-cdrom, another thing is, is there a way to make apt-get get all the dependencies needed to compile it? I want it to have all dev's of every program on there so that compiling is made easier with the G |
| 18:15.16 | Thunderguy | NU C Compiler |
| 18:15.23 | abrotman | saintiss: and which version of debian ? |
| 18:15.32 | saintiss | abrotman: about the latest etch |
| 18:15.39 | vrt | unstable, i am on 2.6.8 stock kernel of sarge.. |
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| 18:15.49 | abrotman | saintiss: do you have non-free sources in your sources? |
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| 18:15.50 | saintiss | abrotman: although with kernel 2.6.12 |
| 18:15.53 | saintiss | abrotman: yes |
| 18:15.56 | abrotman | erm .. in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:15.58 | vrt | i see ipsec running at init, but no entries in /proc/sys/net |
| 18:16.05 | ice_1963 | :) |
| 18:16.11 | saintiss | abrotman: yes I do |
| 18:16.18 | abrotman | saintiss: did you try to use m-a to build the fglrx-driver package that is in etch currently ? |
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| 18:16.28 | saintiss | abrotman: m-a? |
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| 18:16.34 | abrotman | Caution: This software driver provides only 2D support for the ATI RADEON 9100 IGP and ATI RADEON 9100 PRO IGP. |
| 18:16.36 | abrotman | cute |
| 18:16.38 | abrotman | stupid ATI |
| 18:16.48 | unstable | saintiss: You don't need fglrx. |
| 18:16.59 | abrotman | saintiss: i wonder if ATI even supports 3d on your card |
| 18:17.01 | saintiss | unstable: no? then what do I need? |
| 18:17.02 | unstable | saintiss: If you card is under 9150 fglrx won't help you. And even ATI doesn't support you for linux. |
| 18:17.09 | unstable | saintiss: What version of debian? |
| 18:17.14 | saintiss | unstable: latest etch |
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| 18:17.16 | abrotman | saintiss: http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/radeon.4.html |
| 18:17.25 | ice_1963 | that's why i use nvidia |
| 18:17.26 | unstable | If you are using sarge, do choose "radeon" driver. If you have testing or unstable use "ati" driver. |
| 18:17.29 | unstable | !drxx |
| 18:17.30 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 18:17.31 | abrotman | saintiss: it's quite possible your card sucks and that's all you're getting |
| 18:17.39 | saintiss | unstable: I am using ati indeed |
| 18:17.41 | abrotman | ice_1963: right .. because nvidia is still a shitty company |
| 18:17.45 | unstable | saintiss: I actually have the same card. |
| 18:17.51 | saintiss | abrotman: ic... |
| 18:17.57 | saintiss | unstable: hmm, and what fps do you get? |
| 18:18.00 | unstable | saintiss: And 3d acceleration works great with the floss ati driver provided by xorg |
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| 18:18.03 | ice_1963 | ok |
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| 18:18.11 | unstable | saintiss: not sure, I'm on my laptop now |
| 18:18.15 | saintiss | unstable: I must say ppracer is running ok |
| 18:18.27 | saintiss | but maybe that's because the cpu is fast enough |
| 18:18.38 | abrotman | saintiss: really .. that might be all it's capable of .. iirc .. that's not a very good 3d card at all |
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| 18:18.47 | abrotman | (still .. 500fps seems low) |
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| 18:19.11 | saintiss | abrotman: ok, let's assume it to be like that... is it possible ppracer runs smoothly without 3d? |
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| 18:19.15 | SpComb | for some reason debian doesn't want to automatically bring up my interfaces when I boot... I modified /etc/network/interfaces after I installed my second network card, and it's since then that it's been broken. The only thing I can think of is a error in the interfaces file, there doesn't seem to be any error message in the bootup sequence though --> http://pastebin.com/642550 |
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| 18:19.24 | abrotman | saintiss: you have 3d now |
| 18:19.47 | abrotman | !tell SpComb about interfaces |
| 18:19.52 | saintiss | abrotman: because glxinfo doesn't lie? ;° |
| 18:19.57 | saintiss | ;) |
| 18:20.05 | abrotman | it's not supposed to |
| 18:20.15 | saintiss | ic... ok, thanks |
| 18:20.19 | SpComb | I've read man interfaces, and as far as I can tell it's valid |
| 18:20.21 | abrotman | also .. glxgears is a bad benchmark |
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| 18:20.34 | abrotman | SpComb: i've never seen an interfaces file where all the optoins are on one line |
| 18:20.39 | AAre | Hi, does anybody can help me? I compiled the 2.6.16 kernel in my Debian but when I try to turn on my sound, I got errors saying that the mixer doesnt exists, and I donno what to do now. In the 2.4 kernel the sound has been worked |
| 18:20.41 | npx | I wish all these services didn't maintain their own password database |
| 18:20.45 | SpComb | hmm |
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| 18:20.55 | npx | I've got htpasswd, smbpasswd, system passwords |
| 18:21.03 | SpComb | true, good point |
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| 18:21.13 | SpComb | starting stright at you on the first page of the manual.... |
| 18:21.19 | SpComb | *stareing |
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| 18:21.28 | npx | staring* =P |
| 18:21.45 | Thunderguy | So..... is there a way to make apt-get get dev packages that go along with files automatically? to make compiling on debian a lot easier with less administrator help? |
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| 18:22.30 | petemc | Thunderguy: auto-apt does something like thta |
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| 18:22.46 | eeyore- | AAre: did you run 'alsaconf'? |
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| 18:23.12 | stew | SpComb: "Additional options can be given on subsequent lines..." |
| 18:23.49 | abrotman | npx: they don't have to |
| 18:23.52 | Thunderguy | petemc: Hey would apt-move be best for creating a repository cd? |
| 18:23.57 | SpComb | it's even more plainly visinble on the example |
| 18:24.03 | SpComb | I don't know how I managed to mess that up |
| 18:24.09 | SpComb | http://pastebin.com/642568 <-- look better? |
| 18:24.12 | AAre | eeyore-, yes and the alsaconf said that cant probe my sound card |
| 18:24.17 | abrotman | yes |
| 18:24.25 | petemc | Thunderguy: no idea |
| 18:24.34 | eeyore- | AAre: why not? are you running custom kernel? |
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| 18:25.12 | simonrvn | petemc: sounding like a bot :P |
| 18:25.12 | ghj | please help me |
| 18:25.16 | ghj | ./eggdrop: relocation error: /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so: symbol __sprintf_chk, version GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference |
| 18:25.18 | simonrvn | just ask |
| 18:25.26 | petemc | simonrvn: i already had it like that |
| 18:25.33 | petemc | :) |
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| 18:25.38 | eeyore- | SpComb: do you actually have the driver loaded for eth1? does "ifconfig eth1" show some output? |
| 18:25.39 | nash-18 | hi |
| 18:25.44 | ghj | please help |
| 18:25.48 | SpComb | oh, they go up fine manually |
| 18:25.52 | AAre | eeyore-, yes, I did some modifications in this kernel, but I putted the alsa support |
| 18:26.00 | SpComb | it's interesting how networking breaks without the lo interface |
| 18:26.04 | nash-18 | Are there any problem with flashplugin-nonfree package on debian sid? |
| 18:26.09 | Thunderguy | I've never installed debian before, although I've installed Gentoo so theoretically speaking I should have no trouble installing debian, but I can get a minimal install right? then use apt-get to get the rest of my stuff? or is it like mandriva or something where I have to get a full load of stuff that I'm never going to use and potentially break the system? |
| 18:26.13 | SpComb | I always forget to bring it up --> weird problems |
| 18:26.15 | simonrvn | petemc: heheh |
| 18:26.55 | petemc | Thunderguy: you can use a net install cd, have a gander at the install guide on debian.org |
| 18:27.05 | eeyore- | SpComb: od -cv /etc/network/interfaces, if you edit this file via dos (i don't know why, but you said the file might be 'bad') then look for \r\n |
| 18:27.14 | Thunderguy | Yes, Yes, I'll admit, Mandriva did break my system :( So I went to Gentoo, heh |
| 18:27.29 | SpComb | eeyore-: no, I just had badly misunderstood the syntax |
| 18:27.34 | SpComb | should be better now |
| 18:27.34 | Thunderguy | alright, well thanks for your help |
| 18:27.52 | OtoBObil | please helpme ./eggdrop: relocation error: /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so: symbol __sprintf_chk, version GLIBC_2.3.4 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference |
| 18:27.52 | eeyore- | SpComb: the file as posted seems fine, what's wrong with it? |
| 18:27.59 | SpComb | I posted two files ;) |
| 18:28.04 | SpComb | http://pastebin.com/642550 |
| 18:28.05 | chealer | SpComb: try # ifup -na |
| 18:28.19 | eeyore- | SpComb: the 642550 seems fine |
| 18:28.23 | SpComb | I'd hate to :/ |
| 18:28.26 | SpComb | eh |
| 18:28.33 | SpComb | http://pastebin.com/642568 <-- apparently that's right |
| 18:28.37 | SpComb | hmm |
| 18:29.05 | SpComb | I'd hate to flip the interfaces up and down |
| 18:29.16 | eeyore- | SpComb: i don't think you have to use multiple lines for that, but i could very well be wrong :-) |
| 18:29.28 | eeyore- | SpComb: it'd be spectacular if it's that sensitive ... let me see |
| 18:29.28 | SpComb | well, the example on the man page does |
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| 18:30.31 | eeyore- | oh geez, must be on separate lines |
| 18:30.47 | OtoBObil | pease help http://channels.debian.net/paste/2306 |
| 18:31.19 | SpComb | "Additional options can be given on subsequent lines in the stanza." as stew said |
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| 18:31.33 | yaron | what's the name of the package with alsamixer? |
| 18:31.46 | SpComb | thing is I'm off for a week next week... I would hate it if my server lost power and then didn't bring up the network after boot :/ |
| 18:31.50 | OtoBObil | helpme :( |
| 18:31.50 | yaron | date |
| 18:32.01 | yaron | oops |
| 18:32.01 | yaron | what's the name of the package with alsamixer? |
| 18:32.11 | SpComb | actually, that's probably quite irrelevant because the stupid BIOS doesn't seem to have a option for reboot on power fail |
| 18:32.24 | SpComb | or perhaps it did |
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| 18:33.08 | chealer | !tell yaron about find alsamixer |
| 18:33.35 | OtoBObil | helpppppppppppppppp |
| 18:33.38 | OtoBObil | meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 18:33.45 | yaron | what's u'r prob? |
| 18:33.58 | OtoBObil | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.29 | abrotman | !info libc6 sarge |
| 18:34.31 | chealer | OtoBObil: if you want help, ask a question |
| 18:34.32 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-22 (sarge), Packaged size: 4784 kB, Installed size: 15548 kB |
| 18:34.33 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: uh... are you using debian's eggdrop package? |
| 18:34.43 | eeyore- | OtoBObil: how about you recompile eggdrop bot or something? |
| 18:35.00 | OtoBObil | no recompiler eggdrop |
| 18:35.04 | eeyore- | can't believe i've been programming all these years without ever touching mmap() :-) |
| 18:35.07 | OtoBObil | noe recompiler |
| 18:35.10 | OtoBObil | now |
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| 18:35.20 | brosioz | hi |
| 18:35.21 | brosioz | anyone known how see subtiles fron a file xxxxx.srt with vlc ? |
| 18:35.28 | madd_matt | Anybody good with mail servers here? I'm trying to configure exim4 and i get an error whenever trying to interface the server |
| 18:35.29 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: you should be using Debian's eggdrop package, not whatever you're actually using. |
| 18:35.35 | dondelelcaro | madd_matt: just ask your question |
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| 18:35.45 | madd_matt | RCPT TO: themadmatt@gmail.com |
| 18:35.48 | madd_matt | 550 Administrative prohibition |
| 18:35.52 | madd_matt | whenever i try to send mail through exim |
| 18:35.55 | brosioz | anyone known how see subtiles fron a file xxxxx.srt with vlc ? |
| 18:36.07 | dondelelcaro | brosioz: please don't repeat. If someone knows, they'll answer. |
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| 18:36.17 | petemc | madd_matt: have you checked the docs in /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/ ? |
| 18:36.17 | brosioz | oh yea |
| 18:36.18 | eeyore- | madd_matt: sorry, can't help ya with exim. i'm postfix user. |
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| 18:36.29 | AAre | eeyore-, can you take a little look plz, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2307 |
| 18:36.36 | eeyore- | first thing i do with exim is to get rid of it :-) |
| 18:36.41 | madd_matt | petemc, i don't see anything useful. I'll keep looking though |
| 18:36.42 | AAre | eeyore-, I donno what is going wrong here |
| 18:36.44 | pingouin | ok i got a stupid question : i've burn a dvd+R in multisession, first session first, then later, add a new session, then, when i mount it...i only files from the second session (the dvd+R is not close yet) is it ok that it behave like that ? (burned first session with k3b, and 2d with nerolinux) |
| 18:37.03 | Daveman | mmm... gotta like that new-kernel smell :P |
| 18:37.04 | jiriki | postfix > exim imo. - works and is much more easy to configure |
| 18:37.11 | Althaser | brosioz change the subtitles.srt to the same name of movie and play the movie |
| 18:37.11 | Daveman | huhu |
| 18:37.23 | petemc | no one really cares which mta people think is better... |
| 18:37.42 | Althaser | brosioz then right-click into the movie and go to subtitle track and select track 1 |
| 18:37.46 | madd_matt | I can't seem to be able to configure any MTA. |
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| 18:37.53 | eeyore- | AAre: select the "intel/sis/nvidia ac'97 audio controller" |
| 18:38.00 | eeyore- | AAre: that's your sound driver |
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| 18:38.03 | sep | !start a mta war |
| 18:38.04 | dpkg | courier is hard to configure |
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| 18:38.10 | petemc | madd_matt: do you have a firm grounding in how mail works? its not that straight forward |
| 18:38.34 | brosioz | Althaser: thxxxxxxxxx |
| 18:38.35 | brosioz | :** |
| 18:38.36 | unstable | It should be "start an mta war" |
| 18:38.38 | unstable | !grammar |
| 18:38.39 | dpkg | rumour has it, grammar is a system of pitfalls thoughtfully prepared for the feet of the self-made man, along the path by which he advances to distinction. |
| 18:38.39 | sorcer_ | stew: solved that first problem, but now I'm on the vpn part, got certs and server working, and I wanna route all my traffic through vpn, cause I've got unlimited down/upload from the vpn server, but not from where my clients are. I was just wondering about how I can make my clients use the vpn host as default |
| 18:38.39 | AAre | eeyore-, but in the /proc/interrupts is the line in the irq 11 that uses another modules... 11: 40994 XT-PIC ohci_hcd:usb2, eth0 |
| 18:38.47 | sep | !start an mta war |
| 18:38.47 | dpkg | exim is hard to configure |
| 18:38.54 | eeyore- | AAre: generally it's OK, unless it's really not OK :-) |
| 18:38.56 | Althaser | brosioz np |
| 18:38.58 | sep | unstable, that works too be happy :) |
| 18:39.07 | madd_matt | petemc, yes, at least, i'm familiar with SMTP/imap/pop3, i've just never configured an MTA before |
| 18:39.14 | MM2 | How to get newer MySQL (like 4.1.16) to debian stable? Moodle 1.6 requires it? |
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| 18:39.17 | eeyore- | AAre: nevermind the sharing of interrupts at this point, make sure i810 ac97 audio driver is loaded |
| 18:39.19 | AAre | eeyore-, lol :) so if you're saying...I believe :D |
| 18:39.38 | petemc | madd_matt: if you're needs arent too exotic, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config , you can configure a lot of basic stuff that way |
| 18:39.47 | petemc | gah, your |
| 18:39.48 | unstable | greycat did it, that's why it's bad grammar. |
| 18:39.51 | madd_matt | petemc, i've tried that. |
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| 18:40.11 | petemc | madd_matt: time to do some reading then |
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| 18:40.14 | madd_matt | i just have no idea where this 550: Administrative Error is coming from |
| 18:40.18 | AAre | eeyore-, have some place that I can know such things, like wich module I must load for my sound card... |
| 18:40.28 | petemc | madd_matt: are you sending mail from a local account? |
| 18:40.31 | madd_matt | i can't find anything applicible..... |
| 18:40.41 | madd_matt | petemc, yes. |
| 18:40.49 | eeyore- | AAre: as a last resort, consult kernel source code :-) i just memorize most of them |
| 18:40.52 | Daveman | haha mta war |
| 18:41.06 | Zugschlus | !start an mta war |
| 18:41.07 | dpkg | smail is hard to configure |
| 18:41.45 | eeyore- | madd_matt: if i had to pull an answer out of my ass, i would guess 'administrative error' might mean something like 'sorry bud, you can't send mail to that address' |
| 18:41.50 | unstable | !start a distro war |
| 18:41.50 | dpkg | Ubuntu 0wnz! |
| 18:42.05 | OtoBObil | this error checking for Tcl library... found /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so |
| 18:42.05 | OtoBObil | checking for Tcl header... {not found} |
| 18:42.09 | AAre | eeyore-, wow, I must be more familiar with 'C' code and not fear some ASM that suddenly apears in my face :) |
| 18:42.14 | eeyore- | madd_matt: why don't you "telnet localhost 25" and enter the SMTP commands by hand? |
| 18:42.29 | OtoBObil | please help me tcl package install command |
| 18:42.44 | madd_matt | eeyore-, thats what i'm doing where i even find the error |
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| 18:42.49 | eeyore- | AAre: no, you just have to be able to read the file and see what chips it's applicable for |
| 18:42.51 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: again, are you using Debian's eggdrop package? |
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| 18:43.11 | eeyore- | madd_matt: did you do the usual, "HELO ...", "MAIL FROM:<...>" prior to RCPT TO: ? |
| 18:43.32 | madd_matt | yes. |
| 18:43.38 | eeyore- | madd_matt: did you also use "RCPT TO:<...@...>" ? |
| 18:43.39 | madd_matt | want me to paste exactly what i'm doing somehwere? |
| 18:44.14 | grendal_prime | man i sure like that vnc2swf app. that thing flat out rocks |
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| 18:44.22 | AAre | eeyore-, hmmm ok, let me try to find some things about C-Media drivers in the sources.. |
| 18:44.24 | grendal_prime | its soo nice for documenting things. |
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| 18:44.35 | eeyore- | AAre: no, i didn't ask you to look around |
| 18:44.42 | eeyore- | AAre: i asked you to *load* the i810 ac97 driver |
| 18:44.46 | grendal_prime | i wish there was an swf editor that i chould sort of overlay text onto it. |
| 18:44.48 | eeyore- | AAre: did you do that? |
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| 18:45.30 | AAre | eeyore-, I didnt put ac97 in the kernel modules, I'm recompilling it |
| 18:45.42 | eeyore- | AAre: that's your problem, then |
| 18:46.10 | OtoBObil | No, eggdrop doesn't work on Debian. It says libtcl8.4.so is missing. |
| 18:46.12 | OtoBObil | please help |
| 18:46.37 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: have you installed the debian package of eggdrop? Or did you compile it yourself? |
| 18:46.56 | stew | OtoBObil: please put the output of "apt-cache policy eggdrop libc6 tcl8.4" into a pastebin, /msg dpkg paster |
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| 18:47.40 | grendal_prime | has anyone seen a flash editor for linux that actually works? |
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| 18:48.05 | madd_matt | grendal_prime, windows apps via wine only. If you're looking for something like flash Mx |
| 18:48.12 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: they're still working on a flash player that actually works |
| 18:48.12 | unstable | !gnash |
| 18:48.12 | dpkg | hmm... gnash is a GNU project to create a free software player for movies in Shockwave Flash format. Its developers plan on writing a stand-alone player and a plugin for Firefox. Plugins for other browsers may also be written afterwards. Writing a free software Flash-player has been a priority of the GNU project for some time. Before the launch of Gnash, the GNU project asked for people to assist the GPLFlash project. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ |
| 18:48.22 | unstable | grendal_prime: That is your only hope. It's the _best_ |
| 18:48.31 | unstable | grendal_prime: If you don't like it jump onto the dev team. |
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| 18:49.12 | eeyore- | gplflash has a nasty tendency to crash my firefox (had?) |
| 18:49.17 | dennis_p | !resolution |
| 18:49.18 | dpkg | resolution is probably How fine the pixels are. The higher the resolution, the more pixels that can be squeezed onto a screen, thereby giving the appearance that the pictures on your screen are smaller without losing any detail. Because the pictures are smaller you now have room to place more on your screen.. Use ctrl-alt-numpad_plus/minus to change it. Or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, or man xrandr, or see hwinfo, or ask me about drxx |
| 18:49.34 | unstable | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/N4DRWW95.html |
| 18:49.40 | unstable | Why doesn't xvidcap work? |
| 18:49.51 | unstable | apt-file search libpng.so.2 shows nothing. |
| 18:50.05 | unstable | Do I just need to make a symbolic link for libpng.so.2 to libpng.so? |
| 18:50.36 | OtoBObil | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2309 |
| 18:50.36 | eeyore- | unstable: uh, no :-) *.so -> *.so.<version>, if anything |
| 18:51.09 | sep | unstable, it should be in libpng2 |
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| 18:51.17 | unstable | libpng.so.3 exists |
| 18:51.27 | eeyore- | unstable: well then, upgrade your package(s) |
| 18:51.41 | unstable | unstable: My packages are upgraded. |
| 18:51.52 | eeyore- | unstable: changing from so.2 to so.3 is (supposedly) API incompatible (if they follow the rules) |
| 18:52.00 | OtoBObil | stew:? |
| 18:52.04 | unstable | root@cookooland:/usr/lib# apt-file search libpng2 |
| 18:52.04 | unstable | root@cookooland:/usr/lib# |
| 18:52.19 | unstable | eeyore-: What version of debian are you running? |
| 18:52.24 | eeyore- | unstable: sid |
| 18:52.36 | cyzie | how do we know each time we install software via apt-get, which sources(url in /etc/apt/sources.list) we fetch from ? |
| 18:52.39 | unstable | eeyore-: apt-file search libpng.so.2 gives you what? |
| 18:52.52 | unstable | cyzie: apt-cache show package |
| 18:53.00 | unstable | cyzie: Or just look at apt-get download it and it shows the url |
| 18:53.07 | unstable | !tell cyzie about apt-cache |
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| 18:53.21 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: apt-get install eggdrop; and try again. |
| 18:53.22 | unstable | apt-cache showpkg foo, actually |
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| 18:54.04 | sep | unstable, the package you installed are probably for sarge. you have libpng.so.2 in sarge and libpng.so.3 in etch/sid |
| 18:54.06 | unstable | eeyore-: You don't have this file either eh? |
| 18:54.22 | eeyore- | unstable: i don't have apt-file, and besides i have libpng12.so.* |
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| 18:54.29 | unstable | sep: Is it safe to grab libpng.so.2 from sarge? |
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| 18:54.34 | sep | you could try a symlink from so.2 to so.3 but i have no idea of that works |
| 18:54.38 | cyzie | unstable, yeap. apt-cache showpkg foo |
| 18:54.42 | cyzie | unstable, thanks |
| 18:55.03 | eeyore- | sep: probably not :-) that's a major version change |
| 18:55.07 | sep | unstable, try it. |
| 18:55.45 | sep | eeyore-, easy to test, and easy to remove it it dosn't :) |
| 18:56.49 | eeyore- | bbl |
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| 18:57.15 | xxenon | hello. How do I prevent my debian server (console only) to switch the screen to blank after some minutes ? (screensaver?) |
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| 18:58.32 | OtoBObil | stew: OK, I ran that command. Now what? |
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| 18:58.50 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: now you've got eggdrop installed. /usr/bin/eggdrop should work. |
| 18:59.23 | hans0lo | Could I get some help with Apt-pinning? I want to get some packages from sid, but mostly want to stick with Etch. I have the pin-priority for etch set higher than sid in /etc/apt/preferences, but when Ido |
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| 18:59.36 | hans0lo | apt-get upgrade, it tries to get a lot of stuff from Sid.. |
| 18:59.45 | hans0lo | what am I doing wrong? |
| 18:59.50 | dondelelcaro | hans0lo: you need sid's priority less than 100 |
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| 18:59.56 | stew | OtoBObil: you installed the debian eggdrop package like dondelelcaro suggested? |
| 19:00.03 | hans0lo | dondelelcaro: thanks! |
| 19:00.16 | dondelelcaro | hans0lo: see man apt_preferences; for details about that |
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| 19:00.41 | uwe | hello, does anyone know which package provides mailmail in debian ? |
| 19:00.44 | madd_matt | When i try to uninstall exim-base why is it removing mysql-server :s |
| 19:00.44 | sep | xxenon, edit /etc/console-tools/config |
| 19:00.52 | unstable | hans0lo: What are you trying to install? |
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| 19:00.59 | xxenon | sep - thx |
| 19:01.20 | dondelelcaro | madd_matt: because mysql-server depends on cron which depends on a mail-transport-agent |
| 19:01.37 | dondelelcaro | madd_matt: if you don't actually want to receive mail on that box, install something like nullmailer or esmtp. |
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| 19:02.14 | OtoBObil | stew: No I didn't. I'm asking you how to install it. |
| 19:02.15 | sep | xxenon, i guess you need to rerun /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh for it to take effect |
| 19:02.26 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: apt-get install eggdrop |
| 19:02.27 | stew | 14:56 < dondelelcaro> OtoBObil: apt-get install eggdrop; and try again. |
| 19:02.48 | hans0lo | unstable: Just trying to do an 'upgrade' the reason for apt-pinning sid was so I could apt-get install sid/<package> for certain apps that aren't avaliable in Etch.. |
| 19:03.11 | OtoBObil | stew: I did it but it's still the same. |
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| 19:04.12 | stew | OtoBObil: show us the exact command you are typing and the exact error you are getting |
| 19:04.39 | stew | OtoBObil: are you trying to run eggdrop from /usr/bin? or are you running eggdrop from /usr/local/bin that you installed locally? |
| 19:04.56 | Daveman | :o |
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| 19:05.45 | OtoBObil | /usr/bin/eggdrop |
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| 19:07.28 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: what is the output of md5sum /usr/bin/eggdrop? |
| 19:07.41 | OtoBObil | checking for Tcl library... found /usr/lib/libtcl8.3.so.1 |
| 19:07.41 | OtoBObil | checking for Tcl header... {not found} |
| 19:07.46 | OtoBObil | compiler error |
| 19:07.59 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: uh... you don't have to compile eggdrop. Just run it. |
| 19:08.22 | stew | 15:06 < stew> OtoBObil: show us the exact command you are typing and the exact error you are getting |
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| 19:15.07 | pingouin | ok i got a stupid question : i've burn a dvd+R in multisession, first session first, then later, add a new session, then, when i mount it...i only see files from the second session (the dvd+R is not close yet) is it ok that it behave like that ? (burned first session with k3b, and 2d with nerolinux) |
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| 19:15.39 | unstable | pingouin: nerolinux sucks...It probably didn't do it right. |
| 19:15.50 | unstable | pingouin: Why didn't you use k3b on the second session also? |
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| 19:18.12 | buht-w | with cat, what can i type to catch the file my grep is in? like "cat * | grep findme etc etc" what am i missing to catch the file name |
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| 19:18.58 | abrotman | buht-w: you want grep to spit out the filename of the file that contains "findme" ? |
| 19:19.09 | buht-w | abrotman, yes please |
| 19:19.11 | hyksos | buht-w : grep -H |
| 19:19.15 | abrotman | buht-w: grep "findme" * |
| 19:19.31 | buht-w | abrotman, thanks :) |
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| 19:22.53 | hjubal | hi |
| 19:22.59 | Ronin | almost drf5n :) |
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| 19:23.11 | vernom | how can i make a reiserfs image ? |
| 19:23.32 | hyksos | vernom : what do you mean? |
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| 19:23.40 | vernom | with mkinitrd i did mkinitrd -c -m reiserfs -f reiserfs -r /dev/hdc6 |
| 19:23.57 | vernom | hyksos i installed a new kernel |
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| 19:24.00 | hyksos | vernom :you mean a reiserfs filesystem |
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| 19:24.02 | vernom | and it wont but |
| 19:24.05 | vernom | yes |
| 19:24.10 | vernom | and it wont boot |
| 19:24.19 | vernom | i did |
| 19:24.22 | vernom | with mkinitrd i did mkinitrd -c -m reiserfs -f reiserfs -r /dev/hdc6 |
| 19:24.40 | vernom | edit lilo i got lilo |
| 19:24.43 | hyksos | vernom : re-compile your kernel with support for the existing filesystem |
| 19:24.50 | amee2k | how much overhead does ftp over ssh produce? |
| 19:25.10 | hyksos | amee2k :what do you mean with overhead? |
| 19:25.14 | vernom | hyksos but it has support for reiserfs filesystem |
| 19:25.23 | abrotman | amee2k: depends on the encrypytion level |
| 19:25.25 | simonrvn | built-in, not modular |
| 19:25.47 | vernom | i saw in /boot/config |
| 19:25.54 | amee2k | problem is the following: somehow my sftp throughput is limited to around 600 - 700 kb/s |
| 19:26.03 | vernom | so how can i make a reiserfs filesystem |
| 19:26.08 | amee2k | connection is 100 mbps lan and cou load is around 13% |
| 19:26.10 | vernom | so how can i make a reiserfs imgae for boot |
| 19:26.16 | vernom | correcting sorry |
| 19:26.24 | amee2k | i can't explain why it's behaving so slowly |
| 19:26.25 | vernom | so how can i make a reiserfs image for boot |
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| 19:26.44 | hyksos | vernom :you must built-in support for your fs type where root lies |
| 19:27.09 | hyksos | vernom :check fs type of root fs and build kernel with it |
| 19:27.21 | abrotman | amee2k: how slow is the computer on either end? |
| 19:27.25 | vernom | but i got .deb kernel |
| 19:27.33 | vernom | so it has support for my fs type |
| 19:27.46 | hyksos | vernom :you installed it through apt-get ? |
| 19:27.55 | vernom | yes |
| 19:28.30 | amee2k | client: Athlon64 3500+, 2G DDR400 (load: 2-8%) // server: P-III 700MHz, 256M PC133 (load 13-16%) |
| 19:28.45 | hyksos | vernom :then it should i think, but i dont know for 100%, what is the error msg at boot |
| 19:28.59 | abrotman | amee2k: that should be enough . |
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| 19:29.13 | vernom | root = please specify root location |
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| 19:29.19 | vernom | VFS kernel panic |
| 19:29.35 | vernom | but it still looks for ext2 filesystem |
| 19:29.44 | vernom | at first and i did mkinitrd |
| 19:30.04 | vernom | to create a fs reiserfs initrd |
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| 19:30.32 | amee2k | but overall throughput is limited to 600 - 700 kb/s. using multiple connections causes the bandwidth to be split up in equqal parts, summing up to 600 k/s |
| 19:31.04 | abrotman | amee2k: are you sure both machines are running at 100Mb ? |
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| 19:31.25 | vernom | so hyksos what sould i do |
| 19:31.59 | vernom | if the kernel was built in for ext2 and i do a mkinitrd sould work on reiserfs i think yes |
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| 19:32.21 | amee2k | yes. switch shows 100 mbps connection for both ports, there is no crossover between them and no routers |
| 19:32.23 | vernom | i did mkinitrd to create a reiserfs initr.gz image |
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| 19:33.17 | amee2k | ethtool shows "Speed: 100Mb/s" |
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| 19:33.56 | abrotman | amee2k: there are really lots of factors that could affect this |
| 19:34.09 | opc0de | hey can anyone tell me how to recompile my kernel using make-kpg? I'm trying "make-kpkg --append-to-version=.20060405 kernel_image" , but I get "Warning: The file include/linux/version.h exists; The contained UTS_VERSION string: "2.6.15.01022006" does not match expectations: "2.6.15.01022006.20060405"". I could make clean, but I don't want to have to make everything over again |
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| 19:34.32 | hans0lo | Still need apt-pinning help.. I read the man page on it, and I must still be confused. I set etch to 900, and sid to 50. apt-get upgrade is still choosing a lot of packages from sid, when it should only be choosing sid if there is no alternative in etch.. |
| 19:35.15 | amee2k | abrotman: which are the most likely examples i could check for? |
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| 19:35.28 | Eulex | hans0lo, apt-cache policy libc6 will tell you what priorities the different releases have |
| 19:35.36 | abrotman | amee2k: it could even be something like the size of the buffer on the NIC |
| 19:36.21 | hans0lo | Eulex: ok, that says both sid and etch are set to 500 |
| 19:36.22 | Eulex | hans0lo, btw, have you run apt-get update? |
| 19:36.29 | hans0lo | Eulex: yes, I have. |
| 19:37.20 | Eulex | hans0lo, how does your /etc/apt/preferences look? |
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| 19:37.43 | hans0lo | Eulex: /join #flood |
| 19:37.47 | hans0lo | oops. |
| 19:38.01 | hans0lo | about ot paste into #flood |
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| 19:38.38 | heny | do i have to download any drivers for my hardware before installing debian? |
| 19:38.56 | madd_matt | heny: Afterwards you may have to. |
| 19:39.07 | Eulex | heny, fully depends on your hardware |
| 19:39.07 | hans0lo | Eulex: ok, it's in #flood. Basically, etch's pin-priority is set to 500, sid set to 50. |
| 19:39.08 | amee2k | is there anything i can try other than buying a new NIC? |
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| 19:39.27 | Aronofsky | hi guys im on kde and im looking for a good image viewer, something as simple as windows XP one , where you can do previous, next and only some simple functions , not a complete browser , only a good viwer |
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| 19:39.53 | hans0lo | Aronofsky: I like GQview, reminds me of ACDsee for win. |
| 19:40.02 | amee2k | Aronofsky: i'm happy with gthumb image viewer :) |
| 19:40.16 | Eulex | hans0lo, it may want a blank line between Pin-Priority: 500 and Package: * |
| 19:40.35 | Eulex | hans0lo, also, you could testing and unstable instead of etch and sid |
| 19:40.38 | hans0lo | Eulex: There is a blank, just didn't come across in the 'paste' |
| 19:40.39 | Aronofsky | amee2k, gnome apps ? |
| 19:40.43 | Eulex | hans0lo, ah |
| 19:40.51 | hans0lo | Eulex: So you don't see anything wrong? |
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| 19:41.22 | heny | Eulex: it's some middle-old pentium 3 msi board with intel chipset and standard sd-ram pc100 + old tnt2 graca |
| 19:41.24 | amee2k | Aronofsky: yep. if it isn't installed by default, do "apt-get install gthumb" |
| 19:41.28 | Eulex | hans0lo, looks ok to me. |
| 19:41.37 | Eulex | heny, you should be ok |
| 19:41.55 | hyksos_ | vernom :soory , lost connection, problem solved? |
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| 19:42.33 | obscuresoul | hello |
| 19:43.13 | obscuresoul | everytime i run "gdmsetup" i obtain "(gdmsetup:3349): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"...what can i do to solve this? |
| 19:43.35 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul :set a DISPLAY var |
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| 19:43.55 | stew | obscuresoul: are you running it from console? or from X? |
| 19:44.27 | obscuresoul | hyksos how? |
| 19:44.32 | obscuresoul | stew from X |
| 19:44.49 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul : export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| 19:44.50 | meriad | when I create a tarball of a directory with tar -cvf dir.tar /directory it scrwes up the DIR is roughly 12GB is there a limit with tarball? |
| 19:45.48 | Eulex | hans0lo, you could try APT::Default-Release "testing"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf, if that's enough for you |
| 19:46.16 | hans0lo | Eulex: APT::Default-Release "etch"; |
| 19:46.27 | hans0lo | Eulex: ^^ that si what I have in it now. |
| 19:46.38 | madd_matt | meriad, i've created tarballs the same way over 60gb, so i don't see that as being the problem. How does it screw up? |
| 19:46.50 | Eulex | hans0lo, that gives me 990 in priority to testing and 500 in priority to unstable |
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| 19:47.12 | Eulex | hans0lo, if that doesn't work, you may want to try testing instead of etch. |
| 19:47.17 | hans0lo | Eulex: I had to create /etc/apt/apt.conf. Is that abnormal? |
| 19:47.19 | abrotman | uh crap |
| 19:47.22 | Eulex | hans0lo, no |
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| 19:47.27 | obscuresoul | hyksos_: done, but now i obtain "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server ; Xlib: No protocol specified ; (gdmsetup:3362): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:" |
| 19:47.37 | stew | hans0lo: the you need to use testing instead of etch |
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| 19:47.53 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul : try another terminal like :0.1 |
| 19:48.12 | stew | obscuresoul: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 19:48.21 | stew | obscuresoul: don't bother trying :0.1 |
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| 19:48.55 | hans0lo | stew, etch=testing, correct? |
| 19:49.01 | stew | hans0lo: currently, yes |
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| 19:49.32 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul :ah, you run as root? then export XAUTHORITY=/home/yourusername-which-you-logged-into-x |
| 19:49.35 | hans0lo | stew, looks like that was my problem. Thanks! |
| 19:49.45 | hans0lo | Eulex: thanks for all your help! |
| 19:49.56 | stew | hyksos_: gdmsetup must be run as root |
| 19:50.18 | hyksos_ | stew :i never runned it, or i cannot remember |
| 19:50.49 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul :also login without - after su |
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| 19:54.36 | heny | hey, if i select e.g. standard server profile while installing debian, may i then later install other packages which i need and remove packages i don't need? |
| 19:54.56 | asg | heny: of course |
| 19:55.12 | hyksos_ | heny :no, after installing, you cannot remove or install any package, theres no way |
| 19:55.13 | heny | :X |
| 19:55.29 | abrotman | heny: no .. NEVER! .. you cannot install more stuff! .. it's just not possible! |
| 19:55.31 | obscuresoul | hyksos_ i just logged in with "su" without "-" and it works...as simple as that, thank you :) btw it was supposed i run any command? and why this gives me an error with "su-"? |
| 19:55.36 | Eulex | hans0lo, yw :) |
| 19:55.55 | dondelelcaro | obscuresoul: su -; is a login shell, su; is not. |
| 19:55.59 | madd_matt | obscuresoul, there is a space in su - |
| 19:56.09 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul :with - you take over the complete environment from the user you login |
| 19:56.09 | obscuresoul | madd_matt indeed |
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| 19:58.18 | obscuresoul | hyksos_, dondelelcaro tks |
| 19:59.01 | obscuresoul | stew what does this command ""export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority"" that you gave me? |
| 19:59.01 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you're not related to synrg are you ? |
| 19:59.16 | abrotman | that would be kind of creepy :) |
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| 19:59.42 | asg | abrotman: he's Overfiend in disguise |
| 19:59.49 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: no |
| 19:59.50 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul :i gave it to you, with that , the app is using the Xauthority file in the dir which was specified, its a more secure approach instead of xhost + |
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| 20:00.32 | Firefox_7 | instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download free Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm |
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| 20:01.03 | hyksos_ | obscuresoul :do a ls -a on your /home/user dir with which you logged into X, then you see the Xauthority file |
| 20:01.08 | r3tex | how do you check what files a package has installed? |
| 20:01.15 | dondelelcaro | r3tex: dpkg -L foopkg; |
| 20:01.15 | asg | r3tex: dpkg -L <pkg> |
| 20:01.26 | hjubal | I'm trying to install a package with apt.. but I got "E: Broken packages" |
| 20:01.29 | r3tex | thanks! |
| 20:01.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell hjubal -about bat |
| 20:02.11 | obscuresoul | hyksos_: ah...thank you :) |
| 20:02.18 | daeos | abortman: mind telling me what program such as dhclient (possibly) would be responsible for my ip address changing ever few hours ??? im on a router and my router only changes the ip if i tell it to change the ip of any of my computers behind it, and the only one that is changing ips is the debian one... what would i need to look for to find out why it is changing all the time? i ran dhclient one time and after that my ip's been changing on |
| 20:02.26 | hjubal | what doeas it mean dondelelcaro ? |
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| 20:02.45 | asg | !comfort dondelelcaro |
| 20:02.45 | dpkg | There, there, dondelelcaro. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:02.51 | dondelelcaro | hjubal: see what dpkg told you; it's got the instructions for it all... |
| 20:03.01 | hjubal | sorry.. i see |
| 20:03.02 | heny | will my overclocked pentium 3 run debian well? 500 -> 620 mhz |
| 20:03.15 | asg | heny: yes |
| 20:03.34 | stew | dondelelcaro: can we +q n=10373019? http://vireo.org/tmp/googlefirefox.txt |
| 20:03.35 | hyksos_ | daeos : what do you using dhclient for? |
| 20:03.49 | daeos | chkrootkit found a packet sniffer running from it |
| 20:04.01 | daeos | so i was going to find out why |
| 20:04.14 | Gathond | daeos: dhcpd is a packet sniffer, it needs to be |
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| 20:04.49 | stew | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 20:04.53 | daeos | ok i see then, so then why is my ip release all the time? is there a setting in dhcpd to change? |
| 20:04.56 | dondelelcaro | stew: np; missed that line here. |
| 20:05.06 | hjubal | great dondelelcaro! |
| 20:05.13 | hjubal | I've posted it |
| 20:05.19 | dondelelcaro | hjubal: what's the url? |
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| 20:05.32 | hjubal | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2310 |
| 20:05.38 | jacob | so what's up with debian unstable's latest installer? |
| 20:05.41 | Gathond | daeos: you can set the lease time in dhcpd's configuration, clients are supposed to ask the server to renew the lease after leasetime/2 |
| 20:05.48 | hyksos_ | jacob :yeah, whats up |
| 20:06.05 | jacob | hyksos_: what happened to the option of installing from ftp? |
| 20:06.09 | daeos | is that in .... seconds? mins? days? |
| 20:06.19 | hyksos_ | jacob :yeah, what happend to it? |
| 20:06.45 | jacob | it's like... I chose ftp.debian.org, and it tries wgettin with http !! |
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| 20:07.08 | Gathond | daeos: probably depends from dhcp server to dhcp server what it takes the configuration value in, I believe the dhcp protocol mandates that its seconds though |
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| 20:07.30 | asg | jacob: ftp.debian.org serves via HTTP also |
| 20:07.36 | jacob | which sucks cause I need to use ftp with my firewall |
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| 20:07.36 | dan2 | asg, AHOY |
| 20:07.37 | dondelelcaro | hjubal: uh.. why exactly are you installing those packages from experimental? |
| 20:07.40 | junix|work | when installing 2.6.16 should i go ahead and uninstall hotplug, i still use 2.4.27 currently |
| 20:07.54 | hyksos_ | jacob :choose another server |
| 20:07.59 | hyksos_ | jacob :google one |
| 20:08.00 | dondelelcaro | jacob: most mirrors are set up to use http, not ftp. |
| 20:08.01 | hjubal | I'd like to compile kchm 2.5 |
| 20:08.09 | stew | i'm not sure there is any sane way to upgrade from a debian 2.4.27 to a debian 2.6.16 |
| 20:08.12 | daeos | Gathond, ok thanks not sure if you know what a linksys router's requirements are..... |
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| 20:08.17 | dondelelcaro | jacob: if you select ftp as the transit mechanism, it'll use ftp. |
| 20:08.26 | junix|work | stew: ok.... |
| 20:08.30 | jacob | yeah but the installer used to let me choose ftp for the instalation |
| 20:08.32 | asg | dan2: hiya |
| 20:08.37 | dondelelcaro | hjubal: and? |
| 20:08.41 | stew | junix|work: i'm just not sure there is a working initrd creator, but others might know |
| 20:08.42 | jacob | dondelelcaro: where did that feature go? |
| 20:08.50 | Gathond | daeos: no idea, but regardless of what value is used your machine should not loose its lease |
| 20:08.55 | dan2 | asg, NINJA! |
| 20:08.56 | dondelelcaro | jacob: it should be in the preceeding menu |
| 20:09.00 | daeos | i see |
| 20:09.07 | stew | junix|work: afaik, initramfs-tools needs a working udev and udev needs > 2.6.13 and yaird is broken for 2.4 |
| 20:09.10 | hjubal | linker says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext" |
| 20:09.11 | asg | dan2: I'm on a spotty connection so I might drop off at anytime. I heard you are doing the Windows thing these days? |
| 20:09.11 | yperite | Daeos |
| 20:09.14 | Gathond | daeos: as the client is supposed to ask the server to renew it when half the lease time has passed |
| 20:09.15 | stew | junix|work: but things might be fixed |
| 20:09.21 | hjubal | so i'm trying to install requested libraries |
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| 20:09.28 | yperite | daeos, i have say you last time to try zepoo , have you try it ? |
| 20:09.32 | dondelelcaro | jacob: it's possible that cdebootstrap no longer supports ftp, but I really can't remember. |
| 20:09.33 | junix|work | stew: so what should i do? |
| 20:09.42 | jacob | dondelelcaro: that's what I'm saying... it's not there anymore... I just downloaded the latest installer from the ftp site |
| 20:09.43 | dondelelcaro | jacob: in most cases it's the other way around; http is allowed whereas ftp is disallowed. |
| 20:09.58 | daeos | yperite: zepoo didn't have a deb package available on the site nor is it in apt from the debian.org site |
| 20:10.04 | dondelelcaro | jacob: is there any real reason why you can't use http? |
| 20:10.15 | jacob | dondelelcaro: because my proxy only supports ftp |
| 20:10.20 | yperite | daeos, download this on the website or on sourceforge |
| 20:10.25 | yperite | it's very easy |
| 20:10.26 | dondelelcaro | jacob: you don't need a proxy for http... |
| 20:10.31 | jacob | firewall that is |
| 20:10.42 | asg | jacob: that's just silly |
| 20:10.51 | jacob | hey, don't blame me |
| 20:10.54 | dondelelcaro | and a firewall that doesn't support http is rather "unusual"... |
| 20:10.54 | daeos | yperite: im not using any gui so downloading from a site is rather difficult |
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| 20:11.04 | madd_matt | jacob, what kind of crack is your firewall smoking that it doesn't do http? |
| 20:11.09 | dondelelcaro | jacob: in any case, if that's what you've got, download the whole first cd, and do an install from cd instead. |
| 20:11.12 | hjubal | dondelelcaro, where did you see "x11proto-xext-dev" experimental? |
| 20:11.25 | jacob | I've installed debian many times before all from ftp..... I just don't happen to have that copy of the installer on my usb stick anymore |
| 20:11.25 | dondelelcaro | !+info x11proto-xext-dev |
| 20:11.26 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:11.27 | dondelelcaro | !+info x11proto-xext-dev experimental |
| 20:11.28 | dpkg | Package 'x11proto-xext-dev' does not exist. |
| 20:11.29 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:11.30 | dpkg | x11proto-xext-dev: (X11 various extension wire protocol), section x11, is optional. Version: 7.0.2-2 (experimental), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 328 kB |
| 20:11.33 | stew | junix|work: i don't know a solution other than building a non-initrd 2.6 kernel first |
| 20:11.35 | dondelelcaro | hjubal: see above. |
| 20:11.46 | OtoBObil | dondelelcaro : I can't install eggdrop. Can you help me? |
| 20:11.50 | stew | dondelelcaro: do you know a way to upgrade from 2.4.27 to 2.6.16 using debian packages? |
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| 20:11.55 | yperite | daeos wait i m searching for you |
| 20:11.59 | daeos | ok thanks |
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| 20:12.22 | ale_ryu | heeeey people, I have a little problem with my internet connection. I can get into most sites but I can't log in to MSN messenger or download packages from debian or connect to gtk-gnutella servers |
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| 20:12.40 | jacob | dondelelcaro: I'll just search for the old installer for now that works.... is there anyplace I can request a feature be readded back into the installer? |
| 20:12.46 | hyksos_ | ale_ryu :MSN is closed |
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| 20:12.51 | dondelelcaro | jacob: file a wishlist bug against d-i |
| 20:12.51 | hjubal | keta, tnx dondelelcaro.. I'm going to try an older version of kchm |
| 20:13.06 | ale_ryu | I thought it was just a configuration problem, so I ran dpkg-reconfigure --all twice |
| 20:13.06 | dondelelcaro | hjubal: kchmviewer is actually packaged in Debian, if that's what you're looking for |
| 20:13.09 | jacob | happen to know the URL ? or is it email? |
| 20:13.14 | dondelelcaro | jacob: but frankly, that's not a high priority thing. |
| 20:13.16 | ale_ryu | and didn't work |
| 20:13.24 | dondelelcaro | jacob: install reportbug; and go from there. |
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| 20:13.36 | yperite | daeos, wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/zeppoo/zeppoo-0.0.2.tar.gz |
| 20:13.41 | madd_matt | ale_ryu, how is your internet set up? |
| 20:13.42 | OtoBObil | dondelelcaro : I can't install eggdrop. Can you help me? |
| 20:13.46 | hyksos_ | ale_ryu :what does ifconfig say |
| 20:13.51 | stew | OtoBObil: what does "md5sum /usr/bin/eggdrop" report? |
| 20:13.55 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: give the full output from the command that you're using to install eggdrop, and stop repeataing. |
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| 20:14.17 | hyksos_ | ale_ryu :you knwo how to setup a internet connection with debian? |
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| 20:14.33 | OtoBObil | stew: 2c6e4fc30a6d07c9bd5d13fabf304614 /usr/bin/eggdrop |
| 20:14.40 | ale_ryu | It's not just MSN, the problem is that I can't update my system anymore! I have cable modem connected through ethernet, but it's not the connection either, I have windows98 on this same machine and it works perfeclty(the connection, not windows---) |
| 20:14.41 | abrotman | daeos: huh? |
| 20:14.43 | abrotman | asg: who is? |
| 20:14.55 | hjubal | dondelelcaro, sure, but a previous version: "kchm-0.6.5" |
| 20:15.04 | hyksos_ | ale_ryu :you knwo how to setup a internet connection with debian? |
| 20:15.05 | asg | abrotman: ? |
| 20:15.06 | ale_ryu | I've had my connection working perfectly for 2 and a half years... |
| 20:15.17 | dondelelcaro | hjubal: ah... file a wishlist bug for the new version to be packaged |
| 20:15.19 | meriad | anyone nkow how to use gtar and multivolumes |
| 20:15.24 | hyksos_ | ale_ryu :you use pppoe? |
| 20:15.27 | meriad | so that it creates multitars no bigger than 4.2GB each? |
| 20:15.29 | abrotman | asg: Overfiend in disguise? |
| 20:15.32 | ale_ryu | nope |
| 20:15.33 | dondelelcaro | OtoBObil: that's not the right md5sum |
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| 20:15.47 | daeos | yperite: wget? |
| 20:15.51 | hyksos_ | ale_ryu simple ip |
| 20:15.54 | stew | OtoBObil: then it appears that you ahve eggdrop installed from the debian package already. if you are having problems running it, show us exactly what you are trying to do and what errors you are getting. use a pastebin /msg dpkg paster |
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| 20:16.08 | stew | dondelelcaro: that is the one i have here |
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| 20:16.19 | stew | dondelelcaro: from 1.6.17-3 |
| 20:16.24 | hyksos_ | ale_ryu :check /etc/network/interfaces or better ifconfig before |
| 20:16.25 | jacob | also, what happened to the other installers? I only see x86 in here |
| 20:16.27 | yperite | daeos, open a shell , and do : wget http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/zeppoo/zeppoo-0.0.2.tar.gz |
| 20:16.37 | daeos | yperite: and the site again? i dont have it |
| 20:16.45 | dondelelcaro | stew: err, actually, nevermind. I forgot that I have my own custom version packaged here |
| 20:17.04 | dondelelcaro | Version: 999:1.6.17-3... ;-) |
| 20:17.18 | stew | holy epoch! |
| 20:17.23 | ale_ryu | huh? it's not that my connectin doesn't work! It's just not working right! I can browse most sites and download stuff, but I can't log in to hotmail or update via apt-get, that's all |
| 20:17.29 | yperite | daeos, this is the program, install this and you have documentation on archive |
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| 20:17.54 | dondelelcaro | stew: yeah, it has a few custom patches; most important of which is the one that removes people from here with useful text |
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| 20:18.23 | yperite | daeos, www.zeppoo.net |
| 20:18.24 | stew | don't remove people with useful text! |
| 20:18.44 | asg | stew: :) |
| 20:19.22 | stew | reminds of a esperanto joke about broken light |
| 20:19.33 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:20.13 | stew | err lojbanist... |
| 20:20.19 | obscuresoul | is it normal this happens to the gdmsetup in sarge? "the application 'gdmsetup' has quit unexpectedly" |
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| 20:21.12 | UncleSkunk | How would I go about making it so that when I start my machine up. it doesn't jump to blackbox login.. I was thinking it would stay with the bash. and thats the way I want it |
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| 20:21.15 | jim__ | What is a good ids system I can install from debian/testing? |
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| 20:21.34 | stew | UncleSkunk: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 20:21.41 | daeos | yperite: ok i got it....i'll work on un tar.gz 'ing it and see how it works out |
| 20:22.01 | UncleSkunk | thanks |
| 20:22.08 | chealer | stew: can you really do jokes in lojban? :) |
| 20:22.56 | yperite | daeos, it work on root account , you have README i think look at this |
| 20:23.07 | daeos | ok |
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| 20:23.12 | tomplast | hi |
| 20:23.19 | stew | chealer: Q: How many Lojbanists does it take to change a broken light bulb? A: Two: one to decide what to change it into, and one to figure out what kind of bulb emits broken light. |
| 20:23.28 | tomplast | can anyone help me with a vloopback? |
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| 20:23.38 | Kurtism | how can I clone my debian box to another PC? |
| 20:23.48 | Kurtism | what's the best way of doing that |
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| 20:23.57 | jim__ | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 20:24.01 | jim__ | What is wrong with that? |
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| 20:24.19 | quiet | Kurtism, G4L ? |
| 20:24.28 | abrotman | jim__: #iptables |
| 20:24.28 | Kurtism | the current debian box is on a 250gb harddrive and the destination box or the clone is a 40gb hard drive, however there is only like 5-10 gigs used on the 250 gigger |
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| 20:24.29 | Omega16 | hello...anyone available for helping me ? |
| 20:24.33 | chealer | stew: hah, I barely understood it :) |
| 20:24.37 | Kurtism | G4L? |
| 20:24.40 | asg | !tell Omega16 about ask |
| 20:24.42 | abrotman | Omega16: hello .. mcfly .. ask a question |
| 20:24.42 | quiet | Ghost 4 Linux |
| 20:24.43 | Ronin | Omega16: best just to ask |
| 20:24.47 | Kurtism | oh |
| 20:24.54 | OtoBObil | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2311 |
| 20:24.55 | Kurtism | but can that go from a big drive to a small drive? |
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| 20:25.06 | Kurtism | the hardware is identical except for the hard drive sizes |
| 20:25.36 | EdibleText | Kurtism, rsync may also be used. |
| 20:25.43 | quiet | Kurtism, not sure.. but, you could also just tar up /etc /usr and whatnot... do a simple install on the new machine.. then untar everything and maintain your previous configs. |
| 20:25.57 | quiet | Kurtism, take care to maintain permissisons and such though. |
| 20:25.59 | chealer | stew: what does it take to replace 10 esperantists? |
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| 20:26.04 | Omega16 | i have a debian box (2.6.8-2-386) and i would like to setup a mail server (sendmail postfix or what ever) in order to be capable to send mails into inbox (at yahoo and hotmail) |
| 20:26.17 | Ronin | Omega16: didnt we go through this hours ago? |
| 20:26.27 | Ronin | apt-get install eggdrop then edit the conf file and run that bad boy |
| 20:26.36 | chealer | Omega16: note that your kernel is outdated (see /topic) |
| 20:26.53 | stew | OtoBObil: you shouldn't be trying to compile anything, what is the first command you are executing. you shouldn't be running "./eggdrop" but "/usr/bin/eggdrop" |
| 20:27.00 | stew | chealer: what? |
| 20:27.16 | Omega16 | sorry...havent been here when you talked about this.... |
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| 20:27.33 | hjubal | dondelelcaro, I solved it.. just "./configure --with-kde" instead of compile statically |
| 20:27.36 | chealer | stew: 1 Idist? assuming the decimal system, of course |
| 20:27.42 | hjubal | :\ |
| 20:27.57 | chealer | stew: muahaha. sorry, I don't know how many lojbanists it would take |
| 20:28.01 | Omega16 | i searched many forums, asked many people...noone know how to send mails into inbox....all mails to to spam/bulk folders :( |
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| 20:28.31 | quiet | Omega16, DUDE... that's done from your mail provider.. |
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| 20:29.30 | Omega16 | quiet DUDE...i would like to install such a server on my debian box.... |
| 20:30.23 | quiet | Omega16, you said you would like to send mail from your debian machine to yahoo email.. and that all mail it sends goes to spam/bulk |
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| 20:30.28 | ranDom | hi zll |
| 20:30.51 | Omega16 | yes |
| 20:30.52 | Ronin | thats not our problem quiet thats a problem on hotmail/yahoos side |
| 20:30.54 | ghenry | anyone know how to monitor the external ip of a network for a change? We have one ADSL router and want to know when it's ip changes |
| 20:31.02 | quiet | Ronin, that's what i said.. |
| 20:31.08 | ghenry | everything is natted behind it |
| 20:31.10 | Ronin | ahh me scrolls up :) |
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| 20:31.31 | Omega16 | dont understand...why yahoo consider many mails as spam.... :( |
| 20:31.42 | quiet | tell yahoo it's NOT spam then.. |
| 20:31.44 | abrotman | because they are |
| 20:31.45 | Ronin | Omega16: ask them |
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| 20:31.50 | Omega16 | :) |
| 20:32.07 | meriad | what archiver can i use to backup stuff to multiple archives |
| 20:32.10 | meriad | other than rar or gtar |
| 20:32.31 | Den-Dens | hi all |
| 20:32.32 | Kurtism | hmmmm I wonder how Rsync can be used for that |
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| 20:33.01 | heny | hello, i'm using t-online on windows and got my data, but i don't use a router, so what should i enter during network-installation of debian? |
| 20:33.07 | heny | if i use the net-install |
| 20:33.18 | Den-Dens | I was wondering. does anyone have a working nvidia driver with the 2.6.16 kernel. and if yes how did you get it to work |
| 20:33.20 | yperite | daeos, |
| 20:33.27 | yperite | daeos, that's good? |
| 20:33.52 | priscila | Den-Dens: if a driver for this kernel? |
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| 20:33.55 | priscila | ops |
| 20:34.05 | priscila | s/if/has |
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| 20:34.31 | EdibleText | Kurtism, either drop the other drive into the currently setup system and use rsyc (man rsync) OR set up a basic system and networ and use rsync, rsync needs to be availible on both boxes on the latter setup |
| 20:35.09 | EdibleText | Kurtism, the mbr would need to be installed on the newdrive in either case |
| 20:35.13 | Den-Dens | priscila: ? |
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| 20:35.31 | PSIplus | Hi |
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| 20:36.21 | PSIplus | i to log the amount of traffic for different users on my network (e.g. now much they transfer over my server) on ip or mac base... How could i do that? |
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| 20:38.57 | Den-Dens | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.03 | Kurtism | EdibleText: interesting very interesting.... do I need a special Rsync Daemon running on the Source System? or can the rsync client on the destination system use SSH to SSH into the Source/Remote System and copy everything from /? |
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| 20:40.36 | EdibleText | Kurtism, I believe the the destination rsync is invoked via the ssh session.. I could be wrong.. but the latter you describe will do |
| 20:40.58 | thefish_ | iceblast |
| 20:41.07 | Kurtism | ok |
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| 20:41.45 | EdibleText | Kurtism, there are switches to copy device files.. and i would use the --exclude and such to avoid copying the guts of /proc |
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| 20:42.44 | EdibleText | Kurtism, youll have fun figuring it out... its very useful and quick way of moving systems to new boxes |
| 20:42.45 | daeos | yperite: havn't done anything past downloading the file, im at work so im multitasking |
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| 20:43.19 | Den-Dens | hm guess not |
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| 20:43.46 | jacob | hmmm I can't seem to find a debian installer that does ftp.... maybe it was redhat's installer that did that.... now that I think about it, I think I installed debian on here using knoppix over pxe and then upgrading to debian unstable |
| 20:43.59 | EdibleText | s/quick/convenient |
| 20:44.03 | jacob | or maybe it was freebsd..... |
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| 20:45.01 | tomplast | is there any graphical tools for automating the creation of a debian package? |
| 20:45.38 | huliganz | no |
| 20:46.05 | huliganz | is it difficult to write dpkg-buildpackage in shell environment ? |
| 20:46.28 | Daveman | :p |
| 20:46.33 | tomplast | why :'( |
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| 20:46.41 | abrotman | !mg |
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| 20:46.42 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) lynx /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or maint-guide.en.html in sarge/sid). 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or the shorthand for Madagascar |
| 20:46.45 | tomplast | if there were a graphical tool we would had alot of more packages :p |
| 20:46.50 | abrotman | !dstats sid |
| 20:46.59 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sid... 18184 packages, 1662 maintainers, 38951 MB installed size, 12408 MB compressed size. |
| 20:47.00 | abrotman | right .. we need more |
| 20:47.00 | Daveman | hah |
| 20:47.09 | yperite | daeos, it don't work? |
| 20:47.09 | tomplast | yes we do |
| 20:47.13 | abrotman | so get on it |
| 20:47.15 | tomplast | you cant never get too many |
| 20:47.24 | obscuresoul | there's a bug in gdmsetup version 2.6.0.8-1? |
| 20:48.07 | youare | Is there a way to tell from files in /lost+found *where* they go recovered from? I'm trying to put a file back but I don't where it should go :/ |
| 20:48.08 | huliganz | tomplast if you can't read the docs, you won't be able to create/use packages with graphical tool |
| 20:48.16 | beardy | obscuresoul: Report it, and if you want and can, fix it and supply a patch. |
| 20:48.16 | huliganz | shame on you |
| 20:48.22 | huliganz | debian is not for dummies |
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| 20:48.30 | dan2 | abrotman, hey how are ya |
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| 20:49.25 | tomplast | huliganz: thats true but you can get quite alone if you dont make it easier for the public |
| 20:49.37 | tomplast | maybe we should remove kde, apt and go back to stone-age |
| 20:49.41 | tomplast | anyway |
| 20:49.44 | UncleSkunk | YAR phpmyadmin is my breaking neck |
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| 20:49.51 | tomplast | i guess i'll have to read the boring documents :/ |
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| 20:50.40 | abrotman | dan2: fine |
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| 20:50.51 | huliganz | okey, tomplast, as u suggested, we should have graphical tools for creating debs. so. if u can't write ONE cmd in shell, will u be able to create usable package? |
| 20:50.53 | youare | anyone has a guess or documentation on the way /lost+found files are recovered? it's somewhat a pressing issue :( |
| 20:51.07 | beardy | !u |
| 20:51.07 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 20:51.53 | abrotman | pretty sad from a guy who can't spell "you" |
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| 20:52.09 | obscuresoul | beardy how? |
| 20:52.19 | beardy | !reportbug |
| 20:52.19 | dpkg | i heard reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian BTS. install reportbug, then run reportbug. |
| 20:52.29 | jim__ | what is a good simple dhcp server I can install/setup on etch. I have one box with two nics...giving another box with one nic internet. The box with two nics connects to a dhcp server from my modem. How can I relay this or something? |
| 20:52.50 | obscuresoul | beardy: tks |
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| 20:53.15 | Daveman | hmmm |
| 20:53.20 | beardy | jim__: dhcpd, or dnsmasq, if you want dns forwarding aswell |
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| 20:54.37 | beardy | jim__: The dhcpd package is either called dhcpd or dhcp-server, not sure. /msg dpkg search |
| 20:55.02 | beardy | obscuresoul: You're welcome. |
| 20:55.17 | huliganz | i have dhcp3-server |
| 20:56.02 | beardy | huliganz: Do you run etch? |
| 20:56.07 | huliganz | sid |
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| 20:56.34 | beardy | the same in etch then, and it was the same even in woody.. |
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| 20:57.13 | zegnus | hi ! |
| 20:57.18 | huliganz | maybe, i don't know about etch. i've been always using unstable |
| 20:57.26 | LSorensen | bera: dhcp3-server maybe? |
| 20:57.26 | zegnus | anybody have a tv usb ok in linux ? (i'm using ubuntu dapper) |
| 20:57.26 | daeos | yperite: didn't say that, i said im busy with multiple things |
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| 20:57.51 | huliganz | zegnus you know, there is #ubuntu |
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| 20:58.12 | yperite | daeos, excuse :p if you need help look www.zeppoo.net or DOCUMENTATION or README on archive or mail contact@zeppoo.net |
| 20:58.12 | beardy | LSorensen: heh, how did you manage to do that typo ;) Yes. |
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| 20:58.26 | jim__ | beardy: Is there any easy way to setup dhcpd if I don't know what I'm doing? |
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| 20:58.29 | zegnus | huliganz, yes Iknow but perhaps here are more generic, and more people.. xd |
| 20:58.30 | LSorensen | jim__: make sure you have static private IPs on the internal network cards in the same subnet |
| 20:58.37 | LSorensen | beardy: I don't know :) |
| 20:58.43 | daeos | yperite: nah, just im at work thats all |
| 20:58.45 | LSorensen | beardy: I have been typing that bad all day. |
| 20:58.58 | LSorensen | beardy: not a good sign for the driver I am working on |
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| 20:59.14 | yperite | daeos, yes :) i understand :) i say you this because i'm leaving:p |
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| 20:59.50 | LSorensen | jim__: and of course the second machine has to set it's default gateway to the internal ip of the first machine so it can forward the traffic |
| 20:59.58 | beardy | jim__: It's not that hard, IIRC the config file is full of examples. And there is a manpage, 'apropos dhcp | grep .conf'. And /usr/share/doc/<packagename> |
| 21:00.27 | LSorensen | beardy: doesn't dhcp seem overkill for a network of two machines? |
| 21:00.32 | beardy | LSorensen: :) |
| 21:00.46 | LSorensen | beardy: now 3 machines, sure. I run dhcp for that (one server and two clients. :) |
| 21:00.55 | daeos | yperite: oh ok, well, i used tar -xf and i can't untar a .gz ... never unpacked a .gz before |
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| 21:01.14 | yperite | daeos, tar xvfz |
| 21:01.16 | LSorensen | daeos: tar -xzf |
| 21:01.32 | daeos | o good ha |
| 21:01.32 | LSorensen | daeos: for .tar.gz/.tgz files |
| 21:01.44 | beardy | LSorensen: Yeah, it probably is, but we don't know why he wants one really, if it's always only are going to be two machines, or if he wants to be able to plug in more later, but I agree, it probably is overkill. |
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| 21:01.54 | daeos | thanks, good show |
| 21:02.00 | beardy | jim__: Will you plug in more machines on your local network? |
| 21:02.05 | LSorensen | beardy: well initially he asked to relay dhcp out through the machine |
| 21:02.29 | daeos | yperite: how do you run it? |
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| 21:02.34 | LSorensen | beardy: which of course is not how it works. |
| 21:02.36 | nk_ | is there a channel for debian on laptops? |
| 21:02.38 | jim__ | How do I get the "ip" command on debian? |
| 21:02.44 | beardy | LSorensen: Yeah.. but that is probably not what he meant. |
| 21:02.49 | LSorensen | jim__: ifconfig |
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| 21:02.56 | LSorensen | jim__: or apt-get install iproute |
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| 21:03.38 | yperite | daeos, take root account, and ./zeppoo -v tasks |
| 21:03.42 | daeos | ok |
| 21:03.43 | daeos | cool |
| 21:04.13 | smagy2 | hello folks could some one please tell me what kernel options i need to set in kernel 2.6.16 to get i810_audio module working. i have these set in my current config and it doesn't work. it is compiled into the kernel CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=y CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M=y thanks |
| 21:04.25 | daeos | yperite: ??? i got a FutureWarning ..... |
| 21:04.31 | yperite | daeos, ./zeppoo -c tasks and ./zeppoo -c networks |
| 21:04.36 | Daveman | abrotman, you run xorg? |
| 21:04.49 | abrotman | Daveman: on my laptop at home .. yes why? |
| 21:04.49 | beardy | jim__: It's probably better for you to do what LSorensen suggests, to only use static adresses for your local network, unless you want a dhcp server just for the sake of it. "/msg dpkg interfaces" |
| 21:04.56 | yperite | daeos, what kind of warning ? |
| 21:05.09 | Daveman | :) |
| 21:05.11 | daeos | a warning and a TypeError too |
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| 21:08.19 | stew | smagy2: i810_audio is oss and CONFIG_SND_* is alsa afaik, which are you after? |
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| 21:08.27 | Daveman | abrotman, I'm doing so on one of mine right now :) |
| 21:08.47 | abrotman | Daveman: for etch? or xorg7 from experimental? |
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| 21:09.30 | thefish | ocean man |
| 21:09.43 | Daveman | testing |
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| 21:10.14 | mo1991 | how do I get the settings from alsaconf to stay when I reboot |
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| 21:10.19 | mo1991 | restarts settings every time |
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| 21:11.30 | Daveman | grr stupid X >:o |
| 21:11.41 | mo1991 | do I even need alsa installed if using a 2.6 kernel? |
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| 21:11.54 | Daveman | for alsamixer? |
| 21:11.59 | mo1991 | yes |
| 21:12.14 | mo1991 | it shows no soundcard every time I reboot |
| 21:12.22 | mo1991 | makes me re-run alsaconf |
| 21:12.27 | mo1991 | to find the soundcard |
| 21:12.31 | Daveman | :\ |
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| 21:13.14 | Daveman | abrotman, does it run well for you? |
| 21:13.25 | abrotman | Daveman: yes .. but i have an intel card in my laptop |
| 21:13.31 | Daveman | eww |
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| 21:14.07 | Daveman | :o |
| 21:14.28 | Daveman | oh man, poor system |
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| 21:16.20 | r3tex | why is /etc/network/options deprecated? and in favor of what? |
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| 21:17.03 | Squall` | Has anyone ever had a problem with the arrow keys not responding in FCEU? |
| 21:17.26 | Daveman | abrotman it's being poopie :\ |
| 21:17.38 | abrotman | Daveman: that's not descirptive |
| 21:17.46 | Daveman | I am aware... Sorry. |
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| 21:18.02 | abrotman | Daveman: NJ is being poopie! |
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| 21:18.15 | Daveman | abrotman, it WAS! |
| 21:18.17 | gnufan | r3tex: more /usr/share/doc/netbase/README.Debian |
| 21:18.24 | Daveman | it's nice now :) |
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| 21:19.12 | websdale | When I start evolution it hangs when 'formatting a message' or retrieving a .gif with "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption" or "invalid pointer" etc |
| 21:19.15 | gnufan | r3tex: I don't know the logic -- would guess setting kernel settings in several places is not a smart idea. |
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| 21:20.14 | r3tex | gnufan: allright |
| 21:20.24 | gnufan | websdale: in the words of Larry Wall this could be a two pass solution |
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| 21:21.00 | websdale | gnufan: meaning? |
| 21:21.15 | gnufan | websdale: on the first pass install mozilla-thunderbird ;) |
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| 21:21.39 | yassir | Hi |
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| 21:22.25 | xxxs | hi |
| 21:22.42 | websdale | gnufan: Yes I used to use it but I don't mind evolution - what's the 2nd |
| 21:22.48 | daeos | in my /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases i show 5 leases .... should i have that many? dhclient is setup to renew every day |
| 21:22.57 | yassir | I am new to debian I'm just asking what is the default derictory to download when we use apt-get -d |
| 21:22.59 | jengelh | daeos: it's a cache |
| 21:23.04 | Daveman | abrotman, blah... the WM starts... sort of... but just stays at it's typically lame deb screen and I can't get it to close/halt/die/whatever :P |
| 21:23.07 | stew | yassir: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 21:23.31 | abrotman | Daveman: gnome ? |
| 21:23.35 | daeos | jengelh: then where would i change the time delay? |
| 21:23.43 | daeos | for renewal |
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| 21:23.58 | Daveman | abrotman no sorry I was referring to the xserver |
| 21:24.07 | abrotman | Daveman: i emant .. what are you logging into ? |
| 21:24.12 | Daveman | I can't even start my wm (flux) until this shit gets working |
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| 21:24.25 | yassir | # |
| 21:24.27 | D13EGU | hi all! how to install apache 2 + php + mysql ? |
| 21:24.30 | Daveman | abrotman, sorry what? |
| 21:24.30 | abrotman | Daveman: so xdm runs ? |
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| 21:24.48 | Daveman | abrotman, well I would assume so... sort of? |
| 21:24.54 | Daveman | It starts, just sits there blankly |
| 21:25.29 | yassir | Can anybody answer my question please |
| 21:25.38 | Daveman | and it's not letting me switch back to a tty or term it or anything? but still responds... :\ |
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| 21:26.35 | abrotman | Daveman: did you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg before starting X ? |
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| 21:29.13 | stew | D13EGU: apt-get install php4-mysql mysql-server |
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| 21:29.33 | D13EGU | and apache |
| 21:29.40 | stew | yes |
| 21:29.46 | abrotman | php4-mysql will get apapche for you |
| 21:30.10 | D13EGU | version 2? |
| 21:30.18 | abrotman | try it and see |
| 21:30.23 | D13EGU | :) |
| 21:30.36 | Kinks | you can see before you actually install it so yeah.. just go look |
| 21:31.01 | D13EGU | if i have instalaled ? how to remove? |
| 21:31.05 | stew | D13EGU: yes, if you want to be explisit, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql mysql-server |
| 21:31.12 | D13EGU | cliqserver:~# whereis apache |
| 21:31.13 | D13EGU | apache: /etc/apache /usr/lib/apache /usr/share/apache |
| 21:31.16 | websdale | gnufan: whats the 2nd pass of your 2-pass solution? |
| 21:31.21 | stew | D13EGU: apt-get remove apache2-common php4 mysql-server |
| 21:31.37 | D13EGU | ok |
| 21:32.08 | D13EGU | ;) |
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| 21:33.25 | daeos | back |
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| 21:33.39 | daeos | yperite: im back now |
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| 21:34.44 | sparr | Does totem share its core with any other media player? |
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| 21:35.15 | YouCeyE | how easy is it to change static ip in debian? |
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| 21:35.32 | vlady | donde consigo bueno repositoros para debian sarge |
| 21:35.39 | YouCeyE | if i just change /etc/network/interfaces and do ifup and ifdown in sequence, will that be suffice? |
| 21:35.45 | vlady | el gdesklets para fluxbox |
| 21:36.02 | D13EGU | stew and abrotman thank's |
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| 21:36.28 | D13EGU | the libapache2-mod-php4 is perfect :) |
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| 21:40.59 | D13EGU | how to stop phpinfo(); function? |
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| 21:41.09 | D13EGU | no permit use* |
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| 21:41.22 | talaok | hi |
| 21:41.27 | D13EGU | hi |
| 21:41.33 | talaok | any one can help in radius ? |
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| 21:41.47 | Firefox_7 | instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download free Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm |
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| 21:41.53 | stew | dondelelcaro: ^^^^ |
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| 21:42.09 | Firefox_7 | instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm Download free Firefox® --> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox.htm |
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| 21:43.18 | guk | it's okay ... google is pretty anal ... they'll burn him |
| 21:43.19 | guk | :) |
| 21:43.28 | guk | everyone ive known who has gotten "lots of people to click ads" has gotten burnt |
| 21:43.56 | talaok | hi |
| 21:44.10 | talaok | any one here can help in pppoe |
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| 21:45.58 | D13EGU | and xorg server? how to remove xfree and install xorg? with kde |
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| 21:46.27 | talaok | is there any patch for ppp that let ppp send mac address to radius? |
| 21:47.14 | abrotman | yes .. but the problem is that he could have "patched" that version of firefox |
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| 21:47.26 | abrotman | assuming that's even what it is |
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| 21:47.51 | r3tex | anyone here running etch with xorg? I`m trying to get it to run on my Thinkpad T42p and I remember having problems with this last time i was playing with debian. The bitmap and pcidata modules aren`t being loaded. It had something to do with the modular and the 6.9 getting stuff mixed up. |
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| 21:48.25 | r3tex | I just installed x-window-system. what else am I missing? |
| 21:48.38 | Ronin | r3tex: dont know, what do you want to do? |
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| 21:48.47 | azeem | r3tex: etch doesn't have modular |
| 21:48.51 | r3tex | Ronin: startx? |
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| 21:49.38 | r3tex | azeem: yeah but it`s trying to load bitmap and pcidata but fails. Last time i fixed it by installing 7.0 which I don`t want to have to do again, to keep some continuity |
| 21:50.13 | azeem | did you manually edit your xorg.confg? |
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| 21:52.06 | r3tex | azeem: X -configure aborts and gives a backtrace, and my own xorg.conf doesn`t work `cause the modules don`t load correctly |
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| 21:54.58 | r3tex | azeem: i might have written over it |
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| 21:55.09 | r3tex | azeem: how do i invoke the setup program again? |
| 21:55.12 | azeem | !drxx |
| 21:55.12 | dpkg | i heard drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
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| 21:55.18 | azeem | !xmd5 |
| 21:55.18 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 21:55.44 | abrotman | !beer gravity # for removing the xmd5 thingies! |
| 21:56.14 | stew | abrotman: they are removed? |
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| 21:56.26 | weasel00 | where is a link for setting up apt-get with etch or testing sources.list? |
| 21:56.33 | abrotman | stew: with xorg .. xmd5 no longer matters |
| 21:56.45 | abrotman | !tell weasel00 about mirrors |
| 21:56.51 | azeem | weasel00: you replace stable with testing |
| 21:56.55 | azeem | that's about it |
| 21:57.00 | stew | abrotman: odd, becuase he accepted a patch of mine that fixed the debconf that was creating that header at the top of xorg.conf |
| 21:57.23 | abrotman | stew: how long ago? .. maybe xorg6.8 still used it |
| 21:57.32 | stew | abrotman: yeah 6.8 |
| 21:57.57 | jengelh | Strange: when running `make tests` in the openssl source, I get loads of errors. On sparc64. |
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| 21:58.05 | abrotman | stew: i think it's gone now |
| 21:58.13 | abrotman | or rather .. in 6.9/7.0 |
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| 22:00.32 | jco | hi, I've seen a debian/rules file containing the test test root = "`whoami`", wouldn't be better to test for uid 0 instead? or am I missing something? |
| 22:00.56 | plasmid | I want an application to use .nzb files... Klibido is very bad and it brakes, BNR just crashes... and nzd.sourceforge.net uudev library is broken. ANy other apps out there thta I can use with Debian? |
| 22:01.08 | r3tex | azeem: well i have a beautiful dpkg created config file and X starts none the better :< |
| 22:01.26 | r3tex | azeem: still won`t load bitmap |
| 22:01.31 | unity | i am unable to see many foreign scripts in firefox such as chinese, japanese, russian, and even some greek. does anyone know how i can fix this? |
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| 22:02.52 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 22:02.54 | stew | r3tex: what error are you geting? no core pointer? no screens found? |
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| 22:03.12 | solemnwarning | are there any apps for playing an MIDI file without needing to use /dev/sequencer? |
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| 22:03.28 | beardy | solemnwarning: timidity |
| 22:04.13 | plasmid | I want an application to use .nzb files... Klibido is very bad and it brakes, BNR just crashes... and nzd.sourceforge.net uudev library is broken. ANy other apps out there thta I can use with Debian? Or any newgroups application reccomendation? |
| 22:04.28 | solemnwarning | any others? |
| 22:04.42 | beardy | solemnwarning: apt-cache search midi |
| 22:05.02 | r3tex | stew: nothing, just bitmap and pcidata don`t load, seems to be a common error |
| 22:05.06 | beardy | solemnwarning: What's wrong with it? |
| 22:05.10 | r3tex | stew: i`m seeing if there`s a fix |
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| 22:05.46 | solemnwarning | I don't feel like googling around to make a config file atm |
| 22:05.55 | beardy | solemnwarning: ? |
| 22:06.25 | beardy | solemnwarning: It's ready to use when you have installed it, at least when I last used it. |
| 22:06.26 | Ronin | so we do your leg work for you solemnwarning? |
| 22:06.42 | solemnwarning | /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg: No such file or directory |
| 22:06.42 | solemnwarning | timidity: Can't read any configuration file. |
| 22:06.43 | azeem | r3tex: maybe ask in #debian-x |
| 22:06.45 | Achiles | 0-0ir-0ir |
| 22:06.46 | Achiles | i0-ri |
| 22:07.16 | Achiles | 0or |
| 22:07.35 | beardy | solemnwarning: By the time 5-10 of us has told you to read the documentation, you could have already read it, and fixed that config file successfully. |
| 22:07.36 | azeem | Achiles: please write in english |
| 22:07.45 | Fetal | oi if I get wireless working with my laptop I can use apt-get through that to get everything working right? I cant plug in cat5... |
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| 22:08.04 | azeem | Fetal: yes |
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| 22:08.27 | stew | r3tex: my configs are at http://vireo.org/~stew/xorg.conf.t42 and .../xorg.conf.t42.dualhead but those are for 6.8. And you may not like my synaptics setup |
| 22:08.37 | Fetal | werd... now I have to figure that out... is there a package distributor online that automatically takes care of depedencies? |
| 22:08.54 | azeem | Fetal: what is your problem? |
| 22:08.55 | Achiles | azee |
| 22:08.56 | r3tex | stew: thanx |
| 22:09.06 | solemnwarning | hmm |
| 22:09.09 | P4C0 | guys, one quick question for a non debian user, how can I upgrad postgresql to 8.1.1? I mean I'm in debian stable with a really old version of postgresql... but I'm not sure what changes do I need to do in the apt source to get the new one... (without breaking everything) |
| 22:09.22 | solemnwarning | fixed the config and timidy works very well... |
| 22:09.25 | Fetal | no problem really just general questions. I am in the process of trying to get apt-get to see the deb I dled |
| 22:09.28 | solemnwarning | SIGSEGV! |
| 22:09.33 | Fetal | speaking of which |
| 22:09.49 | Fetal | the override file for dpkg-scanpackages |
| 22:09.49 | azeem | P4C0: use www.backports.org |
| 22:09.50 | beardy | solemnwarning: Which version of Debian are you running? |
| 22:09.53 | Fetal | do i need it? |
| 22:09.58 | solemnwarning | stable |
| 22:09.59 | azeem | Fetal: no, just touch it |
| 22:10.10 | beardy | solemnwarning: What soundcard do you have? |
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| 22:10.34 | Fetal | how do I do that? how do I find where it is |
| 22:10.41 | azeem | ? |
| 22:10.48 | azeem | it's an argument to dpkg-scanpackages |
| 22:10.50 | solemnwarning | NForce2 onboard |
| 22:10.53 | Fetal | the override file. how do i "touch" it |
| 22:10.59 | Fetal | right |
| 22:11.13 | weasel00 | touch <filename> |
| 22:11.13 | azeem | so I do something like "touch override && dpkg-scanpackages . override > Packages" |
| 22:11.19 | Fetal | but I dont fully understand what its there for. do i need to MAKE an override file |
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| 22:11.34 | Fetal | oh touch is a bash command? |
| 22:11.40 | azeem | Fetal: the `touch' utility creates a zero-byte file |
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| 22:11.48 | azeem | Fetal: no, it's a coreutils command |
| 22:11.52 | azeem | but close ;) |
| 22:12.12 | Fetal | i hope i have core=utils installed. |
| 22:12.18 | startxwhite | i've got a cardbus rtl8180 chipset based wifi card on my laptop. i managed to get it working with the cvs driver, i can associate and get on the net but after a short while, especially when i run apt-get update the machine locks hard. what can I as a desktop user do? |
| 22:12.18 | Fetal | i need vmware |
| 22:12.19 | azeem | it's essential |
| 22:12.23 | Fetal | oh goos |
| 22:12.26 | Fetal | good |
| 22:12.32 | Fetal | muchos gracias mate |
| 22:12.36 | azeem | Fetal: you can create the override file in any other mannor |
| 22:12.49 | Fetal | what? |
| 22:13.00 | Fetal | so i DO have to create it? |
| 22:13.15 | azeem | Fetal: I'm saying there is more than one way to get an override file |
| 22:13.17 | ryan` | hey, anyone using mod_perl on debian? |
| 22:13.22 | azeem | touch override is the easiest one |
| 22:13.28 | cire | on my Laptop, I cannot differentiate between bright yellow and white. On my CRT it seems to be okay. Where should I start to find the problem? (hardware: I only can vary the brightness, not contrast. Software: KDE? xserver? other?) |
| 22:13.30 | beardy | ryan`: Just ask your question. |
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| 22:13.35 | Fetal | oh and touch is one of them |
| 22:13.37 | Fetal | ok |
| 22:13.42 | ryan` | I'm trying to use values form Apache::Const, but they don't seem to be defined. |
| 22:13.56 | Fetal | googling |
| 22:14.03 | weasel00 | i have thoroughly trashed my sources.list..hehe.. how do i reconfigure it from scratch? =) |
| 22:15.01 | ryan` | the mod_perl docs seem to want me to use Apache2::Const, but debian seems to use Apache::Const |
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| 22:15.20 | jafd | Hello everybody. I have a small problem with XKB: I have modified a file in symbols/ (namely, tweaked latin keymap), but X server does not seem to catch up after a restart. Seems like it caches compiled keymaps or something like that. How do I handle this situation? |
| 22:15.33 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: it depends which version of modperl2 you're using. |
| 22:15.36 | sobersabre | weasel00 apt-setup |
| 22:15.44 | startxwhite | is anyone here running sarge on a laptop with a wifi card based on the rtl8180 chipset? |
| 22:15.47 | weasel00 | sobersabre : thank you =) |
| 22:15.53 | ryan` | dondelelcaro: I'm using mod_perl2 for apache2 on sarge |
| 22:16.01 | beardy | !anyone |
| 22:16.01 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 22:16.04 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: if you're on stable, it's use Apache2; use Apache::Const; on unstable, it's just use Apache2::Const; |
| 22:16.12 | ryan` | ok |
| 22:16.19 | ralpho | how do i update evrthing |
| 22:16.20 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: see the rename portion of the mod_perl documentation, or the mod-perl doc package |
| 22:16.27 | ryan` | dondelelcaro, any idea why it doesn't work? |
| 22:16.31 | beardy | !debian mantra |
| 22:16.32 | dpkg | [debian mantra] "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" or "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" |
| 22:16.38 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: because stable has 1.99, and that's documenting 2.0 |
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| 22:16.55 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: if you want it to work exactly like the documentation, get a backport of mod_perl from backports.org |
| 22:16.58 | ryan` | my scripts claim Apache::Const::OK is undefined.... |
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| 22:17.21 | dondelelcaro | ryan`: did you use Apache2; use Apache::Const qw(:common); ? |
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| 22:18.33 | ryan` | no, i didn't use apache2 |
| 22:18.36 | weasel00 | im getting connection refused (111) on every server i try =( |
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| 22:20.32 | ryan` | dondelelcaro, it slill says it's undefiend even after I use apache2 |
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| 22:21.16 | jshriver | When you first install debian and it sets up grub it probs for other operating systems. Is it possible to do that after installing? I can't get grub to see windows 2k on my first drive first partition |
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| 22:24.06 | jafd | jshriver: don't know, it was always assumed you read the FM after installing and do it on your own; at least I haven't seen such a script after install anywhere :-) By the way, /usr/share/doc/grub has examples on this. |
| 22:24.40 | jshriver | hrm will check that.. I was looking at various manuals online, but none of the examples work. It's easier in lilo, but can't figure it out in grub |
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| 22:25.42 | weasel00 | where can i find more information regarding how apt-get and the mirrors talk to each other. my firewall seems to be the issue |
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| 22:26.15 | jilocasin | 'ello all |
| 22:26.17 | ryan` | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 22:26.56 | ryan` | clains it's undefined when i do return $Apache::Const::OK, and whines about barewords when i return Apache::Const::OK |
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| 22:29.34 | jafd | Oh no, #xorg is either dead or sleeping |
| 22:29.52 | jafd | or XKB is too fscking complex for us mortals. |
| 22:31.57 | jengelh | uk mortals can do it! |
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| 22:32.52 | jafd | jengelh: so maybe there is a uk mortal to try to point me in right direction with a question screen or two above? ;) |
| 22:33.08 | jengelh | i'm just the average de mortal |
| 22:33.17 | ryan` | dondelelcaro, any ideas? |
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| 22:35.32 | jengelh | jafd: so what's the issue? |
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| 22:36.12 | cire | may someone have a look at http://pastebin.com/643120 ,please? When trying to use driver "i810" in xorg.conf, my screen stays blank when starting kdm. I am able to switch to a console, and may enter commands, but the screen stays blank. The paste is the X-log-file. I am trying this now for weeks, but I had no luck... (debian unstable, 2.6.16, i915 and drm compiled as modules and loaded, also agpgart.). I really would appreciate every help, |
| 22:36.12 | cire | feeling too stupid to get this work... ;) |
| 22:36.46 | mne | hi guys. can you suggest a linux tool that can undelete fat16 and/or fat32 partitions ? |
| 22:37.08 | jengelh | if you strip the 'linux' part, I know a DOS one. |
| 22:37.36 | beardy | mne: testdisk |
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| 22:37.39 | beardy | !testdisk |
| 22:37.40 | dpkg | [testdisk] an alternative to gpart. Try gpart first. http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html, or see also gpart, or or if that url doesn't work: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html Partition scanner and disk recovery tool TestDisk checks the partition and boot sectors of your disks. It is very useful in recovering lost partitions. |
| 22:37.45 | mne | jengelh, I know some for dos/windows as well. but i'm not willing to install dos/windows somewhere ;) |
| 22:37.55 | jengelh | don't got a floppy drive? |
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| 22:38.23 | mne | beardy, seems like testdisk can only recover lost partitions, but not the files on it. |
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| 22:38.46 | mne | jengelh, sounds like a way. I could also fire up something in vmware so there's no need to reboot |
| 22:39.07 | jengelh | bbl |
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| 22:39.56 | beardy | mne: If the files are still there, they are still there after rewrite of the partition table, with the "Lost" partitions rewritten in the table. If the files has been overwritten, it doesn't "recover" them. |
| 22:40.35 | mne | beardy, I know. The files got just deleted. It's a compact flash card for my digital cam |
| 22:40.46 | jafd | jengelh: the question is, I have added some useful symbols to symbols/latin, but the X server doesn't seem to follow. Does it cache keymaps somewhere else and how to tell it "go flush it"? |
| 22:41.06 | beardy | mne: Then you are probably out of luck, flash is a whole other thing than harddrives.. |
| 22:41.45 | jafd | jengelh: of course, I have restarted it, and tried setxkbmap, and I've run out of things to do. BTW, Google is evil. |
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| 22:43.02 | mne | beardy, no. If files are deleted on FAT32 or FAT16 partitions the file itself is not deleted, juste the filename is removed from the allocation table. I did the same some time ago but using one of those dos tools. It would just be fine if there would be some linux tool. anyway, thank you. I'm trying out some free windows tool with wine |
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| 22:43.46 | twobitsprite | I installed the foomatic-hpijs package, and the KDE printer manager is complaining the the foomatic-datafile is not in my path... |
| 22:43.51 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 22:43.52 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 22:44.01 | beardy | mne: Have you tried searching for it? 'apt-get search undelete' or similar? |
| 22:44.20 | mne | beardy, sure. there are some undelete tools for ext2 but not for fat |
| 22:44.50 | beardy | mne: I see. And you have done it before, on that cf-card? |
| 22:44.57 | twobitsprite | what does -plaw do, it's not in the man page for dpkg-reconfigure |
| 22:45.03 | twobitsprite | er, -plow |
| 22:45.19 | twobitsprite | ohh... n/m :P |
| 22:46.13 | mne | beardy, yep. but with some windows tool i don't remember ... as I said, i'm just looking for a linux tool since I don't want to use any of those crappy windows tools (with spyware and other stuff included) |
| 22:46.51 | twobitsprite | so yeah... is anyone else having problems with foomatic-hpijs? |
| 22:46.52 | mne | beardy, I think this was what I used |
| 22:46.58 | mne | beardy, http://www.pctools.com/file-recover/?ref=google_fr |
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| 22:47.45 | beardy | mne: Ok, yes, I understand why you want it. |
| 22:47.51 | mne | beardy, hehe |
| 22:48.03 | meriad | so I have a 40GB Tarball file, how can I split this down into a bunch of different files each no bigger than 4GB? |
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| 22:49.17 | rvsjoen | split ? |
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| 22:49.33 | rvsjoen | ok that was a bad answer.. 'man split' |
| 22:49.45 | jshriver | hrm how do I enable DMA? I tried hdparm -d1 /dev/hda and hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc but I get errors |
| 22:49.47 | jshriver | I'm root as well |
| 22:50.08 | rvsjoen | what errors |
| 22:50.18 | jshriver | /dev/hdd1: |
| 22:50.18 | jshriver | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.18 | jshriver | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.18 | jshriver | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:50.39 | jshriver | ? why was I kicked that was only 4 lines |
| 22:50.50 | beardy | !flood |
| 22:50.50 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 22:50.50 | tarzeau | jshriver: too much lines |
| 22:51.03 | tarzeau | jshriver: 4 lines multiplied by 750 people |
| 22:51.13 | jshriver | k understand |
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| 22:51.41 | mne | beardy, http://sourceforge.net/projects/fatback |
| 22:51.48 | jshriver | still can't figure out why I can't enable DMA.. want to burn a CD but can't |
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| 22:52.09 | tarzeau | jshriver: what kernel? |
| 22:52.19 | jshriver | 2.6.11.6 |
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| 22:55.03 | beardy | mne: Ah, let me know how it works out after you've tried it. |
| 22:55.08 | deadcat | is it possible to have 2 AuthUserFile in .htaccess ? |
| 22:55.15 | mne | beardy, ok. I just compiled it |
| 22:55.15 | deadcat | #apache is dead |
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| 22:56.27 | beardy | mne: I must have a bad googling day, I didn't find it myself.. |
| 22:56.43 | mne | beardy, me neither. I found it on sourceforge |
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| 22:56.54 | jshriver | I find it funny I've been running "testing and unstable" for almost 2 yeras now w/o any problems.. but this new system that's "stable" has been giving me headaches for weeks |
| 22:57.39 | mne | beardy, it worked. most of the images (that have not been overwritten) have been restored |
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| 22:58.38 | twobitsprite | can someone tell me the name of the foomatic-datafile? It is apearantly not in my PATH according to the KDE print manager |
| 22:58.59 | twobitsprite | !faq-wiki |
| 22:59.02 | twobitsprite | !faq |
| 22:59.02 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 22:59.10 | tarzeau | MachineCA: it's done for their users |
| 22:59.14 | MachineCA | "I want to.... Install Debian2.6" |
| 22:59.19 | tarzeau | by their users |
| 22:59.35 | beardy | mne: That's great. |
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| 22:59.45 | yetistomps | could someone give me a hand with perl modules please? |
| 22:59.48 | yetistomps | i get this error: |
| 22:59.52 | yetistomps | Can't locate Term/ReadKey.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/i486-l inux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.7/i486-linux /usr/lib/per l5/site_perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at ./nzbperl.pl line 33. |
| 23:00.18 | yetistomps | any ideas how to fix this? |
| 23:00.31 | beardy | dpkg: recover fat is <reply> Have a look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/fatback |
| 23:00.31 | dpkg | beardy: okay |
| 23:00.33 | \amethys1 | yetistomps: apt-get install libterm-readkey-perl |
| 23:00.47 | yetistomps | i get this error if i apt-get: |
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| 23:00.58 | yetistomps | root@druid:/home/yetistomps# perl -MCPAN -e "install Term::ReadKey" |
| 23:00.59 | yetistomps | Can't locate object method "install" via package "Term::ReadKey" at -e line 1. |
| 23:00.59 | MachineCA | or if it's installed, he could also just modify @INC and add it right at the beginning |
| 23:01.12 | jshriver | hrm I'm just going to completely wipe and reload this thing.. grr |
| 23:01.14 | yetistomps | MachineCA: how do I do that? |
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| 23:03.23 | \amethys1 | yetistomps: that doesnt look like apt-get |
| 23:03.27 | ABaer | Hi, i got the following error at the syslog after plugging in my USB-Stick |
| 23:03.29 | ABaer | : |
| 23:03.36 | ABaer | "localhost kernel: hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 1" |
| 23:03.59 | yetistomps | \amethys1, that's right. Its not. I use something else but I get no support from that channel. |
| 23:04.00 | ABaer | what could this be, anyone a clue? |
| 23:04.15 | \amethys1 | yetistomps: Then try #perl |
| 23:04.57 | yetistomps | k |
| 23:05.05 | yetistomps | \amethys1, going there.. thanks. |
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| 23:11.11 | twobitsprite | arg!! why is configuring a printer so frikkin hard?! |
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| 23:11.37 | MachineCA | Linux sith 2.6.8-3-k7 #1 Thu Feb 9 07:28:14 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:11.41 | MachineCA | oh SNAP |
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| 23:11.59 | twobitsprite | why does nothing ever just work?? |
| 23:12.02 | MachineCA | now if only I could slow my frickn' mouse down |
| 23:12.20 | abrotman | change the acceleration |
| 23:12.32 | abrotman | twobitsprite: it's a conspiracy by the tree huggin hippies |
| 23:12.46 | MachineCA | I've been playing with xset but that doesn't really help much |
| 23:12.57 | twobitsprite | abrotman: damn them! :P |
| 23:13.06 | MachineCA | would rather set it in XFConfig |
| 23:13.35 | twobitsprite | am I missing some packages? what packages do I need to get my HP DeskJet to work? |
| 23:13.50 | abrotman | twobitsprite: did you try linux-printing.org ? |
| 23:13.52 | solemnwarning | twobitsprite, you need: |
| 23:14.05 | abrotman | twobitsprite: erm .. no - |
| 23:14.07 | grendal_prime | ok i could swear there was a way to copy to the kde clipboard a table from a webpage...(konquror webbrowser) and it could be pasted into OOOffice writer and it would formati it. |
| 23:14.08 | solemnwarning | cupsys, hplip foomatic-db* |
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| 23:14.16 | epictetus | thats the whole debian design philosophy |
| 23:14.16 | solemnwarning | i think thats it |
| 23:14.18 | epictetus | nothing should just work |
| 23:14.20 | grendal_prime | was i just ...smoking the wrong/right grass that day? |
| 23:14.24 | epictetus | until you understand it |
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| 23:14.40 | epictetus | if you want stuff to just work install suse |
| 23:14.46 | grendal_prime | Ive asked the same question in #openoffice.org..but..umm well no answer so far |
| 23:14.52 | tansaku | I'm running debian, and almost all my memory is being used up, but top only shows about ~20% worth of memory being used by individual processes |
| 23:15.08 | twobitsprite | epictetus: what is the whole debian design philosophy, stuff that doesn't work? |
| 23:15.13 | epictetus | tansaku: probably a lot is being used as disk cache |
| 23:15.14 | tansaku | is there some way more reliable than top that I can use to really see what's eating up the memory? |
| 23:15.17 | bbrazil | tansaku: that's a good thing |
| 23:15.20 | abrotman | epictetus: that's the wrong answer |
| 23:15.22 | epictetus | twobitsprite: doesnt "just work" |
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| 23:15.33 | tansaku | epictetus: interesting - how would I check that? |
| 23:15.35 | Coweater | tansaku: how are you checking the memory usage? |
| 23:15.42 | tansaku | abrotman: how so? |
| 23:15.46 | epictetus | tansaku: what does "free" show? |
| 23:15.50 | twobitsprite | epictetus: so, instead its only supposed to work just after I pull out all of my hair? |
| 23:15.53 | tansaku | Coweater: I'm using free and top |
| 23:15.57 | MachineCA | oh cool xset takes fractions as arguments |
| 23:16.03 | epictetus | twobitsprite: no it's only supposed to just work for me |
| 23:16.10 | abrotman | tansaku: not for that |
| 23:16.10 | epictetus | twobitsprite: it's not supposed to work for you |
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| 23:16.38 | tansaku | free shows 1036040 total and 984152 used |
| 23:16.43 | epictetus | tansaku: what does free show as buffers and cache numbers? |
| 23:16.50 | JMTeal | can anyone help me figure out why my deb box will only stay connected to my network (and thus the internet) for a short period of time? it connects on reboots, and if i use ifup -a to restart it... |
| 23:16.56 | epictetus | tansaku: free also shows a total adjusted for buffer and cache |
| 23:17.02 | tansaku | epictetus: -/+ buffers/cache: 182840 853200 |
| 23:17.22 | zood_ | !beer everybody |
| 23:17.22 | abrotman | JMTeal: any errors anywhere? |
| 23:17.27 | twobitsprite | epictetus: I see :P |
| 23:17.30 | zood_ | g'night all |
| 23:17.51 | JMTeal | not that i know of... |
| 23:17.59 | twobitsprite | ahh, I got it!! :) |
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| 23:18.25 | twobitsprite | solemnwarning: thanks, it worked after I installed "foomatic-db*" |
| 23:18.48 | JMTeal | abrotman that's kinda what i'm trying to figure out... when i use ethstatus, it still shows the ip address, but my router doesn't show it in the clients table... |
| 23:18.54 | tansaku | however top show memory 10% mysqld, about 8 apaches processors taking 1% each, and then a few more less than that, which doesn't seem to add up to the 90% usage I've actually got |
| 23:18.57 | solemnwarning | twobitsprite, i had to do that on my printer too |
| 23:19.26 | abrotman | JMTeal: and when it happens .. can you ping anything ? localhost or your own IP ? |
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| 23:20.05 | tansaku | top shows the same as free for overall usage: 1036040k total, 993456k used, but the %mem totals are way off |
| 23:20.25 | abrotman | tansaku: how far is the machine into swap ? |
| 23:20.37 | twobitsprite | ok, so now it's printing "something"... but it doesn't seem to be converting carriage-returns correctly... it line-feeds, but doesn't carriage-return... |
| 23:20.52 | abrotman | yay stair stepping! |
| 23:21.01 | JMTeal | abrotman : ping gives me ---> connect: invalid argument |
| 23:21.05 | twobitsprite | abrotman: indeed |
| 23:21.24 | twobitsprite | any tackled this one before? |
| 23:21.39 | abrotman | JMTeal: what card/driver/kernel? |
| 23:22.00 | JMTeal | abrotman : easiest way to get all that info? |
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| 23:22.17 | abrotman | JMTeal: lspci/lsmod/uname -a |
| 23:22.23 | tansaku | abrotman: no swap is being used as far as I can see |
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| 23:22.33 | abrotman | JMTeal: also ethtool will also tell you which driver(read the manpage .. iforget the option) |
| 23:22.38 | abrotman | tansaku: then i wouldn't worry aboutit |
| 23:23.01 | epictetus | tansaku: well that shows that it is mostly being used as buffer and cache |
| 23:23.22 | abrotman | tansaku: if you're not heavily using swap .. there's no issue .. |
| 23:23.25 | abrotman | !free ram |
| 23:23.25 | dpkg | Most modern operating systems try aggressively to use free physical memory for disk caching, but release it when actually needed by programs. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. |
| 23:23.29 | twobitsprite | ah... it looks like CUPS (or someone) is sending postscipt, but my HP is just reading it as plain text... i.e. the first line is "%!PS-Adobe-3.0" |
| 23:23.37 | abrotman | ew |
| 23:23.40 | epictetus | tansaku: which is what you want it to do (wouldn't you rather the kernel used your extra memory to make IO go faster than just leave it empty?) |
| 23:23.42 | JMTeal | abrotman: ethernet controller: lite-on communications LNE100TX [linksys etherfast 10/100] (rev 25) |
| 23:23.56 | abrotman | that's a pretty standard NIC |
| 23:24.17 | JMTeal | abrotman what am i looking for in lsmod output? |
| 23:24.22 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 23:24.22 | dpkg | <Hostile> RichiH: Im not fsking retarded |
| 23:24.31 | abrotman | JMTeal: do you have ethtool installed ? |
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| 23:24.44 | JMTeal | abrotman nope |
| 23:25.12 | abrotman | JMTeal: ethtool -i <device> will show you the driver |
| 23:25.41 | tansaku | abrotman/epictetus: I'm worried about it because I had my rails site stop serving last night, and on my other machine the total memory usage is way lower |
| 23:25.48 | JMTeal | abrotman : i can try to apt-get... but it may only connect for a few seconds... i was able to upload about 650MB o it the other nite over my lan... but sometimes it only works for a few min... |
| 23:25.58 | abrotman | JMTeal: it's like a 20k package :) |
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| 23:26.18 | abrotman | tansaku: do you know why it stopped? |
| 23:26.38 | tansaku | epicteus: so the free is telling me that the memory is being used as buffer and cache - is there somewhere I can read more about settings for that? |
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| 23:27.14 | twobitsprite | why is my driver/CUPS/whoever sending raw postscript to my printer instead of just printing the file? |
| 23:27.28 | abrotman | tansaku: i mean .. if you're chasing down RAM usage .. and it crashed for some other reason .. that's kind of a waste of time :) |
| 23:27.33 | tansaku | abrotman: it's not clear why it stopped. Yesterday we were running fast_cgi and the memory was bing maxed out. I switched to mod_fcgid as recommended and thinks seem more stable, but I'm worried that it might only be a short term fix |
| 23:27.42 | tansaku | bing--> being |
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| 23:27.56 | JMTeal | abrotman : got it... now what? |
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| 23:28.07 | abrotman | JMTeal: tell me what it's using :) |
| 23:28.26 | abrotman | tansaku: so it could have crashed because of buggy code? |
| 23:28.37 | tansaku | abrotman: you're right of course - chasing after RAM when it's something else would be a waste of time, but it's just that we did have big memory problems with fast_cgi |
| 23:28.43 | JMTeal | abrotman : tulip 1.1.13 |
| 23:28.45 | romulo | hi, i have 2 ethernet cards on my pc, but after some time connected it drops one of the cards, and sometimes change them between eth0 and eth1, i got the follow message on kernel messages: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed, can anyone help me?? |
| 23:28.49 | abrotman | JMTeal: ewww |
| 23:28.59 | abrotman | JMTeal: have any other NICs about ? |
| 23:29.05 | JMTeal | abrotman : no firmware version... need the bus info? |
| 23:29.07 | abrotman | it's sad .. tulip used to be so good |
| 23:29.15 | abrotman | JMTeal: nope .. driver was enough |
| 23:29.18 | tansaku | abrotman: if it was buggy code it would be buggy code in mod_fcgid or fast_cgi - fast_cgi definitely hogged the memory |
| 23:29.29 | abrotman | JMTeal: and uname -a ? |
| 23:29.41 | shogunx | abrotman back when tulip was only for DEC nics? |
| 23:29.41 | tansaku | abrotman: I guess I'm just looking for reassurance that top is really showing me the true picture |
| 23:29.42 | JMTeal | abrotman : nope... but it worked for weeks without being down... |
| 23:29.43 | abrotman | tansaku: it could have been buggy code in fast_cgi |
| 23:29.55 | abrotman | shogunx: yeah .. pretty much |
| 23:30.06 | romulo | lol |
| 23:30.08 | romulo | another one |
| 23:30.18 | abrotman | shogunx: i have a pile of tulip cards at my office .. don't work with windows anymore .. and linux treats them like second class citizens |
| 23:30.25 | tansaku | abrotman: I think it was buggy fast_cgi when it crashed two days ago and the problem was a memory leak - top really did show the thing maxing out |
| 23:30.30 | abrotman | tansaku: free is a better measure |
| 23:30.38 | JMTeal | Linux debian 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:30.39 | tansaku | abrotman: good to know |
| 23:30.58 | abrotman | JMTeal: first of all ... /topic .. your kernel is out of date |
| 23:31.17 | romulo | abrotman, your cards are getting down from nothing? |
| 23:31.27 | abrotman | romulo: ? |
| 23:31.28 | JMTeal | abrotman : so... how do i update it ? < --- stupid question i'm sure... |
| 23:31.36 | tansaku | abrotman: now we switched to mod_fcgid I want to really monitor how much memory it's consuming - top says not much, but free says lots of memory begin used: what epictetus said makes sense, that the high numbers are due to cache and buffers |
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| 23:31.48 | romulo | abrotman, i tough u was having the same problem that im |
| 23:31.51 | shogunx | abrotman: i have a Alphaserver 2100 running debian as a terminal server in an internet cafe with DEC 21040 nics:) |
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| 23:32.03 | abrotman | shogunx: the exact ones i have .. windows hates them |
| 23:32.20 | abrotman | tansaku: sar might be able to keep track for you |
| 23:32.59 | obscuresoul | does anyone here used the gdmsetup in sarge? |
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| 23:33.06 | abrotman | JMTeal: can you paste the contents of lspci && lspci -n in a pastebin ? |
| 23:33.12 | abrotman | JMTeal: or #flood ? |
| 23:33.33 | JMTeal | just a sec... |
| 23:33.40 | tansaku | abrotman; thanks - I just remember warnings about top being inaccurate - is sar a unix utility? |
| 23:33.41 | shogunx | abrotman i kind of really like those cards, actually. i bet openvms still likes them. fwiw i have mostly standardized on 3c905's for my routers and ring architecture, but as soon as emulex asses up off the ip over fibrechannel kernel code, i'm switching it all to fc. |
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| 23:34.16 | twobitsprite | kihvblshuvfnslfgbahs |
| 23:34.17 | abrotman | shogunx: i order a pile of FA311 from netgear .. they wrok pretty well in win32 and linux |
| 23:34.30 | abrotman | tansaku: yes .. apt-cache show sar |
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| 23:34.45 | abrotman | tansaku: hrm .. that's not it |
| 23:35.10 | JMTeal | abrotman : pasting to #flood... |
| 23:35.11 | abrotman | tansaku: it's in sysstat |
| 23:35.15 | shogunx | abrotman i'm luckily not afflicted with any win32, and 3c905's are like $4 each as pulls nowadays. |
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| 23:35.37 | abrotman | shogunx: lucky you .. but the fa311 are pretty decent .. and cheap enough |
| 23:35.57 | tansaku | abrotman: many thanks - I'll check that out |
| 23:36.02 | shogunx | abrotman i've used them, the fa311... not too bad. |
| 23:36.05 | JMTeal | get it abrotman? |
| 23:36.27 | abrotman | JMTeal: looking |
| 23:36.35 | abrotman | shogunx: they're cheap enough .. and they work :) |
| 23:36.53 | JMTeal | abrotman : thx |
| 23:36.58 | abrotman | JMTeal: so it worked just fine a few weeks ago ? |
| 23:37.44 | JMTeal | abrotman : yes... |
| 23:37.53 | abrotman | JMTeal: have you changed anything in the system? |
| 23:38.14 | abrotman | JMTeal: that is the correct driver .. |
| 23:38.29 | abrotman | JMTeal: does it happen when using a certain application/service? |
| 23:39.06 | shogunx | abrotman hey, i'll trade you some old dac960 raid controllers for those 21040s:) |
| 23:39.15 | JMTeal | abrotman : yes... but it's been a while... if i don't have a lot of important stuff would it be easier to just reinstall and not mess with it so much next time... |
| 23:39.32 | abrotman | shogunx: i think i have a dac960 in production at my office .. and no :) |
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| 23:39.53 | abrotman | JMTeal: do you have another NIC about? |
| 23:40.03 | JMTeal | abrotman : no... |
| 23:40.05 | abrotman | JMTeal: first i'd try the newer kernel |
| 23:40.38 | JMTeal | abrotman : how's that done? |
| 23:40.57 | abrotman | JMTeal: apt-get update && apt-get -u upgrade |
| 23:41.09 | abrotman | JMTeal: it may hold it .. if that's the case .. you can install it verbosely |
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| 23:41.42 | sherdog | Hey all |
| 23:42.09 | sherdog | I'm installing debian, and im at the part where it is "Testing apt sources" |
| 23:42.12 | abrotman | !root |
| 23:42.12 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 23:42.35 | sherdog | Now, it hangs. How do I change the source? |
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| 23:43.55 | sherdog | nvm, it finally went on |
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| 23:45.38 | Tanatos | hi! i'am currently downloading 2 Debian dvd's by Bit Torrent, and i'am here because i want to know are there all language packages in that .iso packages of Debian? I would like to use Polish language pack, do you know if that is already on this .iso or do i have to download and install it manually? |
| 23:46.12 | JMTeal | abrotman : how do i get it verbosely... ? |
| 23:46.20 | abrotman | JMTeal: what's the package name ? |
| 23:46.52 | sherdog | Tanatos, I'm no linux pro, but your english is almost perfect. Why not stick with that? Im from denmark, and still use english.. :) |
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| 23:47.42 | bill | hey i'm trying to dual boot and i can't find a lilo/grub.conf file but i found a grub folder and i know theres a lilo signature in my boot sector... am i just looking in the wrong spot? |
| 23:47.56 | JMTeal | abrotman : you tell me... for the kernel? .. ? |
| 23:48.25 | abrotman | JMTeal: what cpu do you have ? |
| 23:48.37 | abrotman | bill: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:48.48 | abrotman | bill: or are you trying to use lilo ? |
| 23:48.54 | JMTeal | abrotman : honestly i don't know... an old compaq |
| 23:49.04 | abrotman | JMTeal: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 23:49.22 | bill | abrotman: i'm trying to find either... everything says edit etc/grub.conf or etc/lilo.conf |
| 23:49.44 | abrotman | bill: lilo is at /etc/lilo.conf .. grub is /boot/grub/menu.list |
| 23:49.45 | abrotman | bah |
| 23:49.47 | abrotman | bill: lilo is at /etc/lilo.conf .. grub is /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 23:49.54 | JMTeal | cyrix m ii 2.5x |
| 23:50.01 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 23:50.12 | JMTeal | not good? |
| 23:50.15 | JMTeal | heh.. |
| 23:50.16 | abrotman | JMTeal: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 23:50.25 | bill | abrotman: thanks! i found it. but why does my boot sector have a lilo signature? |
| 23:50.28 | abrotman | i just don't know enough about the cyrix line to guess |
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| 23:50.34 | abrotman | bill: because you isntalled lilo ? |
| 23:50.59 | bill | abrotman: i just did a basic setup |
| 23:51.06 | abrotman | if you want grub .. install grub |
| 23:51.18 | sherdog | Dont use linux they said, much to difficult to install they said!! My Imac and I did it in less than half an hour.. Im so proud.. :) |
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| 23:51.36 | abrotman | sherdog: good for you |
| 23:51.40 | abrotman | !beer sherdog |
| 23:51.44 | Tanatos | hah, thank You sherdog but my english is not as good as i would want it :) / according to my question: what is on this 8 GB (2 Debian DVD's)? i think that on this size of .iso it should be everything including language packages... |
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| 23:51.47 | abrotman | mmm .. yuengling |
| 23:51.47 | bill | i think i have grub... either way thanks! |
| 23:51.48 | Juerd | sherdog: It's easy. Especially with recent Ubuntu or Debian. |
| 23:52.06 | bill | u lucky bastard its 10am here! I WANT BEER!! |
| 23:52.08 | sherdog | abrotman, much appreciated! ;) |
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| 23:52.18 | sherdog | Tanatos, practive makes perfekt.. |
| 23:52.34 | bill | later |
| 23:52.37 | sherdog | Juerd, yes it is! Very easy.. Damn I regret not converting sooner |
| 23:52.39 | Juerd | Speaking of perfection, perfect is spelled with a c in English ;) |
| 23:52.43 | abrotman | Tanatos: those two DVDs contain the binary packages for debian |
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| 23:52.52 | sherdog | Now is my other puters turn.. :D |
| 23:53.18 | sherdog | Juerd, dude im from denmark! give me a breake.. :p |
| 23:53.38 | Juerd | sherdog: brake :P But sure :) |
| 23:53.38 | \amethys1 | "break" |
| 23:53.43 | Juerd | Eek |
| 23:53.44 | Juerd | break indeed. |
| 23:53.51 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:53.56 | vlady | como configuro mi teclado en xorg |
| 23:54.02 | vlady | alguien tiene idea? |
| 23:54.19 | sherdog | hehe |
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| 23:54.40 | vlady | si? |
| 23:54.45 | sherdog | the european banana republic |
| 23:54.50 | Tanatos | so we all have to learning english - all the time :) |
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| 23:55.13 | Juerd | sherdog: Denmark's probably one of the least banana-ish republics this world knows. |
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| 23:55.47 | sherdog | Juerd, there is a story behind.. :) |
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| 23:55.59 | Juerd | I'm going to bed |
| 23:56.05 | Juerd | Good night |
| 23:56.06 | sherdog | nn champ |
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| 23:56.11 | Juerd | Or whichever localtime you prefer. |
| 23:56.11 | sherdog | thx for the chat |
| 23:56.18 | sherdog | hehe |
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| 23:57.29 | Tanatos | hehe ok people i have 01:55 here and i don't know how i am gonna' wake up about 5:30 tomorrow ^^, goodnight then everybody... |
| 23:58.10 | sherdog | Tanatos, nn |
| 23:58.44 | Tanatos | @ <bed> |
| 23:59.24 | JMTeal | abrotman : so i got the kernel .. just wait to see if the ethernet screws up now? |
