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| 00:01.07 | indian_ | good night |
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| 00:05.10 | Arjan | hmmm there's a way to see what package a certain file comes from... but I forgot how ;-) Anyone? |
| 00:05.34 | citral | apt-file search file |
| 00:05.36 | johnny69 | New to Debian...please forgive...if I go with the Debian installer gui thingy...will it allow me to do a, "net install" ?? |
| 00:05.48 | zenbum | mlask: have you tried using dpkg? |
| 00:06.26 | mlask | dpkg -r -f uglypackage? |
| 00:06.26 | beardy | !tell Arjan about search |
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| 00:06.57 | freeone3000 | Ah. I remember that. |
| 00:07.03 | freeone3000 | Play. |
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| 00:08.28 | VulpesFoxnik | :\ |
| 00:09.07 | VulpesFoxnik | Now whenever I try to use sound interface the program crashes |
| 00:09.08 | VulpesFoxnik | :\ |
| 00:09.10 | Azar | johnny69: no idea here, I never did a netinstall |
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| 00:10.06 | mlask | but dpkg doesn't work too :( |
| 00:10.10 | mlask | what should i do? |
| 00:10.11 | VulpesFoxnik | Zombie programs are overunning my processes! |
| 00:10.18 | Azar | ... and I guess nobody else did that either |
| 00:10.56 | mlask | "pre-removal scirpt has returned error code 10" what does it mean? |
| 00:10.57 | Azar | VulpesFoxnik: use a paster and paste the errors |
| 00:11.28 | VulpesFoxnik | Azar: Im not even getting errors |
| 00:11.34 | VulpesFoxnik | They just die |
| 00:11.52 | Azar | VulpesFoxnik: looks like it happened to me when I was running unstable |
| 00:11.57 | VulpesFoxnik | There is no reason why the system should be acting this way. I have all the read and write permmisions I need for sound |
| 00:12.14 | VulpesFoxnik | I even compiled my ASLA module |
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| 00:12.31 | Azar | VulpesFoxnik: I have no idea what system you are running |
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| 00:12.43 | VulpesFoxnik | Tempted to nuke the system again. I just got it back though |
| 00:12.45 | beardy | VulpesFoxnik: Why did you do that? |
| 00:12.49 | VulpesFoxnik | I'm using Etch |
| 00:12.54 | beardy | !alsa 2.6 |
| 00:12.54 | dpkg | On Sarge with a 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, apt-get install alsa-utils discover1. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
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| 00:13.09 | sgeigerbot | What's the term I'm thinking of? It means "a network that sysadmins use to control the network users use" I thought it was "network management network" but that doesn't seem to be it...based on my googling. |
| 00:13.13 | beardy | VulpesFoxnik: Not a valid reason, AFAIK. |
| 00:13.35 | VulpesFoxnik | beardy: Because I had a very unclean upgraded version from sarge to cid and I was getting alot of kernel errors |
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| 00:14.08 | anarcat | i'm having problems recording from the builtin microphone on a thinkpad T22. i can hear what i say when i talk into it, but sox's rec doesn't pickup anything. i did try everything i could in the mixer. any pointers on debugging techniques? |
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| 00:14.35 | beardy | sgeigerbot: Control it in what way? |
| 00:14.54 | Azar | anarcat: alsamixer has a default mute on channels, maybe your mic is muted |
| 00:15.08 | anarcat | Azar, i don't think so |
| 00:15.17 | anarcat | Azar, if it would be muted, i wouldn't be hearing it |
| 00:15.19 | Azar | anarcat: oh ok |
| 00:15.26 | anarcat | i also get horrible feedback when i push it all the way up |
| 00:15.33 | VulpesFoxnik | ah screw It. I'm nuking debian again |
| 00:15.39 | citral | anarcat: trie "record" (from xawtv-tools) ? |
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| 00:16.07 | anarcat | citral, i could, hold on |
| 00:16.13 | anarcat | citral, i've been testing with sox |
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| 00:16.37 | anarcat | citral, cool tool, i was looking for something like this |
| 00:16.46 | nrunge | Is there a way to use apt-get to install a package to a directory other than the defualt? My problem is that many apps are being installed outside of my chroot'd documents path. |
| 00:16.52 | citral | anarcat: if you get feedback, that means you turns the _volume_ of the mike up, you shouldn't do that |
| 00:17.26 | anarcat | citral, i see |
| 00:17.38 | citral | anarcat: hint: in alsamixer, press F5 to pick up the source of recording |
| 00:17.48 | anarcat | citral, yup |
| 00:18.19 | anarcat | so the vollume of the mic should be all the way down? |
| 00:18.20 | anarcat | 0? |
| 00:18.23 | anarcat | muted? |
| 00:18.57 | citral | reasonably down, so that you can hear a little bit without larsen |
| 00:19.26 | anarcat | there's a "capture" channel in alsamixer |
| 00:19.30 | anarcat | what should i do with it? |
| 00:19.35 | anarcat | what about ADC, DAC? |
| 00:19.41 | citral | press space on mic |
| 00:19.49 | anarcat | yup, it's already on |
| 00:20.06 | citral | adc and dac sould also be red |
| 00:20.24 | anarcat | citral, ah! |
| 00:20.31 | citral | don't ask me why, never understood this thing |
| 00:20.31 | grendal_prime | i just installed ubuntu on a pent 2 266 with 130 mram |
| 00:20.33 | beardy | sgeigerbot: "vlan" is the only thing I can think of with that meaning, sort of.. please answer my question above. |
| 00:20.40 | grendal_prime | took like an hour and a half |
| 00:20.46 | grendal_prime | its a pig too |
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| 00:21.14 | anarcat | ooooha! |
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| 00:21.24 | anarcat | citral, i think that was it, record is bumping like crazy!! |
| 00:21.25 | anarcat | coool! |
| 00:21.40 | beardy | grendal_prime: Why? |
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| 00:22.39 | grendal_prime | kid i know brought by like 10 disks he got in the mail. i was currious, told him i would install it see if it was worth the trouble. it default installs gnome. and about 2 gigs of crap on top of that |
| 00:22.50 | citral | et bien, I get a bottle opener for the pain :P |
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| 00:24.46 | grendal_prime | beardy, and...it does sets up your root user with the password of the account you setup at system creation. |
| 00:24.49 | grendal_prime | kinda lame |
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| 00:25.15 | Azar | will this crap be allowed to go through? |
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| 00:25.33 | Azar | ban on OS-less boxes |
| 00:25.51 | beardy | grendal_prime: to put it mildly yes.. |
| 00:26.02 | daeos | what would be a good html editor for the console? other than vi or vim? |
| 00:26.11 | automat | nano |
| 00:26.13 | citral | daeos: vim? |
| 00:26.15 | cureless | daeos: elvis |
| 00:26.18 | daeos | something that has key word highlihting |
| 00:26.25 | daeos | lighting* |
| 00:26.26 | beardy | daeos: $favourite_editor |
| 00:26.27 | cureless | daeos: what's wrong with vim? |
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| 00:26.47 | grendal_prime | daeos, nano |
| 00:27.01 | daeos | vim is good but has poor tabbing makes my html all fooked up or the php scrips all messed up |
| 00:27.01 | grendal_prime | i use nano for everything..it just works well |
| 00:27.02 | beardy | daeos: vim has, jed has, emacs has |
| 00:27.19 | cureless | daeos: poor tabbing? what are you talking about? |
| 00:27.29 | daeos | as in organisation |
| 00:27.33 | citral | !start an editor war |
| 00:27.34 | dpkg | joe blows |
| 00:27.39 | beardy | deepspace: (syntax highlighting that is) |
| 00:27.42 | automat | lol |
| 00:27.49 | daeos | tahts what i ment, syntax highlighting |
| 00:27.57 | daeos | vim doesn't have that |
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| 00:28.04 | beardy | Of course it does. |
| 00:28.05 | cureless | daeos: it has poort syntax highlighting? |
| 00:28.06 | citral | pffff |
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| 00:28.10 | citral | of course it has |
| 00:28.16 | daeos | then how do you turn it on? |
| 00:28.18 | cureless | daeos: do you not like the colors or what? |
| 00:28.27 | cureless | daeos: :syntax on |
| 00:28.34 | daeos | oh, that would help |
| 00:28.53 | Stevie-O | !start a nuclear war |
| 00:28.53 | dpkg | SHALL WE PLAY A GAME? |
| 00:29.01 | shrotty74 | hi |
| 00:29.07 | cureless | ho |
| 00:29.36 | daeos | and vim also has undo right? i forget how to do it if it does |
| 00:29.42 | cureless | daeos: u |
| 00:29.58 | cureless | daeos: you know vim has help right? |
| 00:30.14 | shrotty74 | pls |
| 00:30.16 | cureless | daeos: so you could potentially do :help undo |
| 00:30.21 | daeos | yeah , but im lazy to read man vim |
| 00:30.27 | citral | yeah, firefox 1.5 just came in etch |
| 00:30.31 | daeos | oh :help i see |
| 00:30.33 | daeos | didn't know it had :help |
| 00:30.36 | daeos | thanks |
| 00:31.04 | P4C0 | guys, anyone knows what hapenned to the "The Debconf Programmer's Tutorial" ? I see it on google but can't find any working link to it... seems to be what I need |
| 00:33.19 | cureless | P4C0: maybe ask in #debian-devel |
| 00:33.20 | Azar | you want to learn vim , type vimtutor is an interactive tutorial |
| 00:33.20 | duanear | can a file in linux have a / in the filename? ie: dir/Filename / Stillfilename.ext ? |
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| 00:34.39 | citral | duanear: I don't think so |
| 00:34.41 | hendry | is there a newbie debian manual? a friend of mine couldn't figure out how to change the password |
| 00:34.51 | beardy | !reference |
| 00:34.51 | dpkg | [reference] The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install it too, the packagename is "debian-reference", 'apt-get install debian-reference'. |
| 00:34.56 | Azar | hendry, yes , several |
| 00:35.11 | citral | !faq |
| 00:35.11 | dpkg | The #debian FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 00:35.11 | beardy | hendry: ^^^ and man passwd |
| 00:35.20 | Azar | http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals |
| 00:35.30 | hendry | beardy: what is the person doesn't know about `passwd` |
| 00:35.38 | shrotty74 | hi2, can i ask somewhat ? ... have a problem with |
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| 00:35.49 | beardy | hendry: what? I just told you? |
| 00:35.53 | citral | !ask |
| 00:35.54 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 00:36.01 | shrotty74 | ...ups, my windowmaker ... |
| 00:36.03 | Azar | hendry: "man" is a command |
| 00:36.36 | beardy | hendry: 'man passwd' |
| 00:36.37 | hendry | beardy: yes, but what happens if someone didn't know about the command passwd or IRC for that matter |
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| 00:36.44 | Azar | but tutorials are easier to read than man |
| 00:37.00 | beardy | hendry: 'apropos password' |
| 00:37.06 | hendry | the docs http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals are poor quality and not translated into "Korean" |
| 00:37.10 | Azar | hendry: command line on your terminal : $~ man password |
| 00:37.18 | Azar | errr man passwd |
| 00:37.44 | hendry | i'm a DD, I *know* passwd. just thinking about docs. |
| 00:37.47 | beardy | hendry: Then you can be the lucky one to translate them, and to improve the quality. |
| 00:37.52 | diesel | What is the difference between /bin and /usr/bin and /sbin and /usr/sbin? |
| 00:37.52 | cureless | hendry: go to http://www.tldp.org/, click on Korean |
| 00:37.53 | Azar | bah poor quality my...ss |
| 00:38.13 | hendry | diesel: see the FHS. sbin = system binary for admins |
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| 00:38.15 | sgeigerbot | beardy: It's a network that only the sysadmins use. It sort of shields administrators' traffic from being sniffed (or being DOSed during a DOS attach). Yes, I guess you could use a VLAN to connect some devices. I think it is an independent network. For instance, I want to be able to connect via IP to the serial port of switches and other devices that control the network. I don't want that kind of device to be attacked by rogue elements |
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| 00:38.37 | sgeigerbot | beardy: so I woudl put that kind of device of a network that just the admins use. |
| 00:39.19 | cureless | diesel: they hold programs, why do you need to know the difference? |
| 00:39.30 | beardy | sgeigerbot: a "not-connected-to-the-Internet-network" then ;) |
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| 00:39.59 | diesel | cureless: I understand that they hold programs. I just want to know why there are different directories that appear to do the same thing. This seems redundant |
| 00:40.09 | beardy | diesel: 'man hier' |
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| 00:40.24 | sgeigerbot | beardy: It would provide "out-of-band" connectivity to the devices used to run the network. So, for instance, a console server that you can use dialup to get into...or use IP to get into it...but not via the network that all the users use. |
| 00:40.31 | hendry | diesel: that's the FHS. that is why there is such a bizaare dir hierachy on Debian. I think it sucks too. |
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| 00:41.11 | hendry | beardy: didn't know about man hier or apropros. nice 1 |
| 00:41.29 | beardy | hendry: And you were a DD? ... |
| 00:42.03 | cureless | diesel: /sbin and /bin are required to bring a system up. /usr/bin /usr/sbin are for "normal" programs and "normal system" programs. |
| 00:42.16 | shrotty74 | ... the only think im nust know *g, ... is how to run a xterm, and send (see) it on X, under tty7. thx |
| 00:42.22 | diesel | cureless: awe, that's good to know |
| 00:42.39 | shrotty74 | nm |
| 00:42.52 | cureless | diesel: some of /usr/bin /usr/sbin might be required to bring the system up.... depending on your definition of up |
| 00:42.52 | hendry | beardy: omg, i don't know two /bin command off by heart! i must suck ;) |
| 00:43.18 | shrotty74 | ,... start it under tty1, zb |
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| 00:45.21 | citral | shrotty74: I'm not sure what you want, but you may launch "screen" on tty1, and then in an xterm in X if you type screen -x it will show the same content |
| 00:45.33 | cureless | later all |
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| 00:45.40 | diesel | cureless: thanks |
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| 00:46.35 | nok | ok big question!! if im doing apt-get remove gnome* will it remove everything about gnome..even garbages and stuff??? |
| 00:46.46 | shrotty74 | thx, citral ... the problem is, that i'm not able to open a console _under_ X itself ... mmh ?? |
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| 00:46.51 | zinx | nok: probably not |
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| 00:47.12 | nok | so how do I do? |
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| 00:47.32 | citral | shrotty74: that is totally vague... do you get X running at all? what wm? what term? details? |
| 00:47.33 | shrotty74 | (im from alg, excurse) |
| 00:48.10 | shrotty74 | :), iam new on linux |
| 00:48.28 | citral | excurse, heh |
| 00:48.54 | citral | so, answer the 1st question, do you get X running? |
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| 00:49.02 | shrotty74 | my think is ... that X ... and the wms are insame ... |
| 00:49.18 | shrotty74 | but |
| 00:49.27 | citral | my think is... you're more drunken as I am. |
| 00:49.38 | shrotty74 | thats not the right think ... |
| 00:50.14 | citral | buzzz... there's no such word "insame" |
| 00:50.26 | nok | please somebody: How do I remove gnome AT ALL!!! |
| 00:50.40 | dvs | !remove gnome |
| 00:50.41 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
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| 00:51.04 | nok | will it really remove everything |
| 00:51.10 | citral | yes |
| 00:51.25 | shrotty74 | i cant left-or-right-klick with my mouse on desktop ...? |
| 00:51.27 | thinkl00p | anyone able to install azureus in debian?? |
| 00:52.13 | nok | and what about kde |
| 00:52.15 | citral | thinkl00p: apt-get install java-package; download j2re from sun, java-package j2re-something, apt-get install azureus |
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| 00:52.34 | dvs | hmmm... let me think |
| 00:52.55 | nok | what about removing kde |
| 00:53.19 | citral | nok: may anything be left, dpkg -l | grep gnome and you'll find it |
| 00:53.41 | citral | but I doubt there will be |
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| 00:54.18 | nok | and how do I take off all the installation files that have been downloaded on the installation |
| 00:54.18 | hanasaki | is there a debian live disk? kde? gnome? |
| 00:54.33 | citral | !depends abiword |
| 00:54.35 | dpkg | abiword: depends on libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.9.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2-2), libenchant1c2a, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.7), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libglade2-0 (>= 1:2.5.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.5), libgnomecanvas2-0 (>= 2.11.1), libgnomeprint2.2-0 (>= 2.12.1), libgnomeprintui2.2-0 (>= 2.12.1), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.10.4), libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.8), ... |
| 00:54.57 | citral | mmmh, looks like some gtk apps will be left |
| 00:55.16 | Arjan | anybody got a G400 working with xorg-6.9.0 in unstable? |
| 00:55.46 | citral | hanasaki: no, there are only based-on-debian ones, like knoppix |
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| 00:57.06 | citral | anyway, http://www.google.com/search?hl=fr&q=debian+live+cd&btnG=Recherche+Google&meta= should suffice. |
| 00:57.13 | hanasaki | citral: thanks.. knoppix is kde... know of a good gnome one? |
| 00:57.27 | citral | hanasaki: ^^ |
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| 00:58.24 | hanasaki | thanks |
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| 01:00.28 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, are you here? |
| 01:00.44 | Stevie-O | is there any way to tell if a file has holes in it? (is sparse) |
| 01:02.23 | bucky | hold it up to the light? |
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| 01:02.32 | dvs | !smack bucky |
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| 01:03.51 | delrio | chao |
| 01:04.00 | delrio | is anyone here familiar with debian-med? |
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| 01:09.26 | nichos | hi all - ive configured fetchmail using imap: poll server with proto IMAP....the thing is, it copied everything, but is removing new emails, any ideas? |
| 01:09.32 | amorel | what's the default partitioner in debian? |
| 01:09.39 | nichos | cfdisk |
| 01:10.06 | nvz | call waiting is such a pain sometimes |
| 01:10.33 | amorel | thanks |
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| 01:11.57 | nok | where is the input scsi0 |
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| 01:13.58 | billybob | good morning debian |
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| 01:16.23 | citral | night. |
| 01:16.47 | billybob | is it necessary to have a swap file? |
| 01:16.53 | billybob | swap partition*? |
| 01:16.56 | dvs | billybob: nope |
| 01:16.59 | billybob | alright |
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| 01:19.33 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: Not really. |
| 01:20.07 | fbhjr | My boxen never swap, even my one server box |
| 01:20.19 | fbhjr | and the server is on very meager memory |
| 01:20.33 | fbhjr | 256 megs |
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| 01:21.03 | fbhjr | web, 6 mail users |
| 01:21.24 | fbhjr | also with clamav and spamassassin and amavisd |
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| 01:21.29 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, I was thinking about the things that you dont use of your 486 |
| 01:21.38 | fbhjr | though amavis gorges on memory sometimes |
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| 01:22.09 | unstable | What is a good way to clean a laptop lcd screen? |
| 01:22.19 | fbhjr | lens cloth |
| 01:22.32 | fbhjr | breath on the sticky spots |
| 01:22.48 | billybob | your foot! |
| 01:22.49 | unstable | spit? |
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| 01:22.57 | fbhjr | no spit |
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| 01:23.04 | fbhjr | just breathe on the spot |
| 01:23.14 | fbhjr | wipe it with a lens cloth |
| 01:23.38 | vees | hi everybody - I need a pointer with apt-get. How do I upgrade just *one* package? |
| 01:23.49 | unstable | vees: apt-get install balh |
| 01:23.57 | fbhjr | apt-get -u package ? |
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| 01:24.22 | Nihilanth | yeah, i think you can just do apt-get upgrade foo |
| 01:24.35 | vees | unstable: which is it? apt-get install package or apt-get -u package?! |
| 01:24.36 | SonnyBurnett | unstable, apt-get install lcd_cleaner .... lol |
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| 01:25.13 | DarkJewdi | I need some help getting my networking to work on my Debian box |
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| 01:25.23 | fbhjr | lcd_cleanre ... sweeet |
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| 01:26.39 | vees | the -u flag on apt-get seems to be 'print a list of upgraded packages' but it does not serve to upgrade one package |
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| 01:26.43 | SonnyBurnett | unstable, I always wonder the same question, there's a kit: a spray and a special rag, to clean it |
| 01:27.01 | fbhjr | vees: yeah sorry I was not thinking |
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| 01:27.17 | fbhjr | slapped myself already |
| 01:27.34 | vees | fbhjr: so what is the command for the upgrade/repair of *one* package? |
| 01:27.50 | billybob | sony has a propritary 5gig partition that my damn laptop won't boot without that i cant access thats been screwing up my dual boot. PISS! |
| 01:27.54 | fbhjr | I usually use dpkg |
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| 01:28.17 | vees | fbhjr: but that implies fetching the package first, so back to apt. No? |
| 01:28.40 | vees | fbhjr: also - dpkg might not take care of dependencies issues, right? |
| 01:28.45 | fbhjr | well use apt-get with -d ? |
| 01:28.51 | fbhjr | download only? |
| 01:28.56 | fbhjr | then dpkg -i |
| 01:29.39 | fbhjr | if you do an apt-get udate it will have the most recent package cached, no? |
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| 01:30.02 | fbhjr | I dunno, I would like to here the solution |
| 01:30.11 | vees | fbhjr: yep. but what if a newer version of the package needs newer dependencies. apt-get update will only 'inform' apt, but not dpkg... |
| 01:30.11 | fbhjr | s/herehear |
| 01:30.30 | fbhjr | are you using sid? |
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| 01:30.50 | vees | fbhjr: of sorts, I use Kanotix (a sid-like live CD) |
| 01:31.28 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: Well, if you need RAM, we an discuss it later |
| 01:31.36 | pipeline | vees: Kanotix is not debian. |
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| 01:31.44 | powder | what is debian experimental? |
| 01:31.46 | nadjyla | hello |
| 01:31.48 | fbhjr | well with that bleeding edge I dunno. I have to wait very often for new packages to be uploaded. lots of breakage...but that is the risk and the point? |
| 01:32.11 | vees | pipeline: thank you. I know. This is why a called it 'sid-like'. can you help with my problem? |
| 01:32.27 | chealer | !tell powder about experimental |
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| 01:32.58 | powder | thanks chealer! |
| 01:33.15 | chealer | dpkg: powder thanks you |
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| 01:33.54 | chealer | someone should teach dpkg to receive redirected thanks |
| 01:34.03 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, ok I need some RAm and a net card, do you have it? what time can we talk about it? |
| 01:34.05 | fbhjr | vees: why do you need to upgrade just one package? |
| 01:34.28 | fbhjr | why can't you do an apt-get update and upgrade that way? |
| 01:34.56 | fbhjr | otherwise, download the deb and dpkg -i |
| 01:35.06 | chealer | powder: anyway, I'm sure it's a pleasure for dpkg |
| 01:35.27 | powder | haha i think so too. :) |
| 01:35.28 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: NIC's are cheap on ebay :P |
| 01:35.30 | vees | fbhjr: because I believe that one of the packages on Kanotix is not properly configured. I already did apt-get update, but that only fetches info about packages, it does not *do* anything unless you use apt-get to do something |
| 01:35.49 | fbhjr | dpkg-reconfigure <packeg> ? |
| 01:36.13 | fbhjr | apt-get remove --purge <package> && apt-get install <package> ? |
| 01:36.18 | vees | fbhjr: downloading one package and then dpkg -i does not address dependencies issues. in fact, no dpkg will to that |
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| 01:36.49 | fbhjr | dpkg does not deal with dependencis? |
| 01:36.50 | vees | fbhjr: maybe. the purge + install might work. I was just wondering if there is a flag to do that. |
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| 01:37.04 | vees | fbhjr: nope. only apt can. |
| 01:37.08 | powder | anyone know if have to compile vlc from source to get matroska playback on etch? |
| 01:38.17 | fbhjr | vees: maybe a debian guru will chime in...I'd be interested to know as well |
| 01:38.28 | fbhjr | about upgrading only one pkg |
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| 01:38.50 | vees | fbhjr: looks like the only Debian guru so far has stopped at pointing out that Kanotix is not Debian :-) |
| 01:39.03 | fbhjr | heh..well he/she has a point |
| 01:39.38 | fbhjr | you maybe should have just talked about apt and dpkg |
| 01:39.47 | fbhjr | then no one would be the wiser ;) |
| 01:39.52 | vees | fbhjr: not really. while the distros are different, WE are one community. in particular in the case of Kanotix which is tries really hard to be as close to sid as possible |
| 01:40.07 | vees | fbhjr: I did. He/she was asking me what I was using... |
| 01:40.20 | fbhjr | vees: I did not know that, but you have piqued my interest |
| 01:40.42 | vees | fbhjr: anyway - I need to run. Nice talking to you fbhjr ! Good to see that not only "gurus" hand out here. |
| 01:40.42 | powder | nothing comes closer than the real deal |
| 01:40.52 | fbhjr | vees: take care |
| 01:40.59 | esk | apt-get install <package> will update the package and any dependencies |
| 01:41.00 | vees | cheers! |
| 01:41.15 | fbhjr | heheh |
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| 01:44.19 | aldug | since debian does not have any rc.local file like in redhat, where is the appropriate place to put some shell commands that I want run every time the server is started? |
| 01:44.28 | aldug | touching a file, chowning it, etc |
| 01:44.38 | aldug | since there is no rc.local to throw it into |
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| 01:45.11 | dvs | aldug: man update-rc.d |
| 01:45.29 | dondelelcaro | aldug: or just drop it in @reboot in your crontab. |
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| 01:45.51 | aldug | dvs: I don't want to write an initscript, I just want to issue a few shell commands on startup |
| 01:46.23 | dvs | aldug: when you login or when the computer starts? |
| 01:46.34 | aldug | dvs: when the computer starts. It's on a debian server. |
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| 01:46.43 | aldug | I want to create a directory and chown it |
| 01:46.46 | vladuz976 | anybody know how i can test the speed of my internet connection? |
| 01:47.02 | dvs | aldug: then listen to dondelelcaro |
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| 01:47.12 | cockroach | hi. i'm trying to run a tool which tries to interact with the kernel (via netlink) but fails to do so. does anyone happen to have an idea about how I could debug that? (it works on one box with a debian 2.6.8 kernel, but not on the other one with a custom 2.6.13...) |
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| 01:47.26 | dondelelcaro | aldug: what directory is this? |
| 01:47.30 | aldug | dondelelcaro: I don't quite understand what you are saying |
| 01:47.41 | dondelelcaro | aldug: man 5 crontab; for details... |
| 01:47.55 | aldug | dondelelcaro: I want to create a directory in /tmp that gets removed every time the server is turned off or rebooted |
| 01:48.04 | aldug | as well as launching a little perl daemon |
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| 01:48.47 | dondelelcaro | aldug: what is this directory for? |
| 01:48.48 | dvs | aldug: sounds like an init script to me but it's your call |
| 01:49.16 | aldug | there is really nothing in debian like /etc/rc.d/rc.local? |
| 01:49.38 | dondelelcaro | aldug: there is, but editing those init scripts when you should just create your own is silly. |
| 01:50.03 | dondelelcaro | aldug: if you've got a server, and a perl daemon, you should package it into a debian package, and include your own init.d script. |
| 01:50.19 | dondelelcaro | aldug: there's even an /etc/init.d/skeleton to get you started |
| 01:50.50 | aldug | I don't have time for screwing around writing an initscript, I just need to get something working |
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| 01:51.53 | SunDanceZephyr | How do I find out have much harddrive space I have left from the command line? |
| 01:52.01 | aldug | df |
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| 01:52.58 | dvs | SunDanceZephyr: listen to aldug. ;-) |
| 01:53.53 | SunDanceZephyr | I'm having an error compiling a kernel |
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| 01:55.26 | jmg | hey all |
| 01:55.31 | jmg | anyone know lots about ip-up.d? |
| 01:55.34 | SunDanceZephyr | aldug: Thanks, I guess my trouble isn't memory then ;) |
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| 01:55.55 | jmg | when i bring up a ppp connection, can i get the username for an ip-up.d script i want to run? |
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| 01:57.19 | SunDanceZephyr | I'll brb |
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| 01:59.54 | jmg | anyone know? |
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| 02:00.31 | nok | does anyone know where is scsi0 |
| 02:00.33 | nok | please |
| 02:01.12 | r_marvin | nok: /dev/sda , probably . look in your dmesg |
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| 02:04.53 | unstable | Anyone know any repositories for xvidcap? it's been on the ftp master's new list for a year. Is there another way I can get it? |
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| 02:08.20 | unstable | I checked out the cvs, and ./configure works fine.(I have all the packages necessary to build apparently). But I get a ton of main.c errors, same with 1.1.4*(new) and same with 1.0.9-original |
| 02:09.04 | unstable | Is xvidcap not going in because it wasn't built properly, or because of legal issues with ffmpeg? anyone know why xvidcap has been on the ftp master's new list for a year |
| 02:09.49 | gravity | unstable: Probalby the legal issues. ftpmaster probably doesn't know what to do with it right now, so it's on the backburner |
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| 02:10.40 | unstable | I wish marillat was hosting it. I emailed him and he said "it doesn't work with ffmpeg" |
| 02:10.45 | hydride | does debian not have an apache2.2 package? |
| 02:10.56 | unstable | But iirc, people use xvidcap all the time. I don't understand why it won't work. |
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| 02:12.42 | nok | rmarvin : Thank you |
| 02:12.45 | dondelelcaro | hydride: it apparently hasn't been packaged yet. If it concerns you, join the apache team and help package 2.2. |
| 02:13.01 | hydride | I'll get right on that |
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| 02:15.32 | nok | when the main package is downloaded from the installation, where is it that i can delete it after??? |
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| 02:15.52 | dvs | nok: apt-get autoclean (if you must) |
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| 02:16.29 | nok | why (if you must) |
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| 02:16.49 | dvs | nok: They are automatically deleted after they are installed properly. |
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| 02:17.16 | dvs | nok: (or at least apt-get asks if you want to delete them after they are installed) |
| 02:19.08 | nok | ok thx you |
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| 02:20.31 | rredd4 | is there a deb package for sarge, mozilla mplayerplug-in? |
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| 02:21.44 | Led_Zepp1lin | !php |
| 02:21.45 | dvs | !info mozilla-mplayer sarge |
| 02:21.45 | dpkg | hmm... php is not asp. Can't get php to work? Remember that php3 looks for the extension .php3 ! .php is for php4 To change this, edit the mime type in httpd.conf. Get php4-mysql if you want mysql support too, or oh, and make sure to uncomment the php module from httpd.conf !!, or for php4, make sure this line is in httpd.conf: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so, or remember, there are quite a few debian users in #php, or puke |
| 02:21.50 | dvs | damn |
| 02:21.52 | dpkg | mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 94 kB, Installed size: 304 kB |
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| 02:21.59 | dvs | oh it worked! |
| 02:22.18 | Led_Zepp1lin | hey, any PHP debian users? I am having problems configuring it. |
| 02:22.26 | rredd4 | ty |
| 02:22.49 | dvs | Led_Zepp1lin: If you explained your specific problem someone might help you. |
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| 02:23.14 | Led_Zepp1lin | k |
| 02:23.29 | Led_Zepp1lin | i have this directory: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled, how would I import this into my apache2.conf file? |
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| 02:24.44 | rredd4 | dvs: I did apt-cache search mozilla-mplayer got nothing. what is the name of the package please |
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| 02:25.07 | dvs | rredd4: mozilla-mplayer, but it's in contrib |
| 02:25.09 | Wyzard | Led_Zepp1lin: The files in that directory are read automatically -- just having it there will cause it to be used |
| 02:25.27 | dvs | !tell rredd4 -about contrib |
| 02:26.11 | Wyzard | Led_Zepp1lin: "a2enmod php4" |
| 02:26.47 | Led_Zepp1lin | Wyzard: k, let me try that |
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| 02:28.20 | Led_Zeppelin | Wyzard: k, seems like my PHP module is getting loaded. But when I goto test.php, it prompts me to download the file. I am sure I have my Addtype correct |
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| 02:28.34 | rredd4 | dvs: I don't use the word main, right? |
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| 02:29.44 | Led_Zepp1lin | hmm |
| 02:29.45 | Led_Zepp1lin | wierd. |
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| 02:30.05 | kb | Hello, are there any full suite mathematics progs for emacs -- I know emacs can do LaTeX/TeX for math ? |
| 02:30.18 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: yes |
| 02:30.34 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: Very cool care to elaborate please ? |
| 02:30.35 | kb | :) |
| 02:30.53 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: emacs or any text editor can do latex. |
| 02:30.58 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: do you want graphical? |
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| 02:31.16 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: I think this might be the straw that breaks the camels back and makes me ditch the VIM/VI world for good |
| 02:31.26 | Woosta | Where is 'dig'? I can't find it in apt at all .. ? |
| 02:31.37 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: do you want graphical? or text based? |
| 02:32.01 | shrotty_74 | gn8 |
| 02:32.01 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: open office can do convert to latex too now. |
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| 02:32.33 | rredd4 | is this correct? deb http://mirror.peer1.net/debian/ stable non-free contrib |
| 02:33.11 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: either or |
| 02:33.16 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: both |
| 02:33.46 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: I wasn't reffering to just LaTeX/TeX emacs functionality but to other possible internal math functionalities |
| 02:34.15 | kb | *referring rather |
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| 02:36.04 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: For instance emacs has 'Calc, a powerful numerical calculator' mathematica functionality through libs etc.. |
| 02:36.24 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: But I was wondering if there was any other hidden math goodies in there somewhere |
| 02:38.42 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: Emacs Calc can do arithmetic, algebra and trigonometry but I don't think integral calculus and differential calculus etc.. |
| 02:38.53 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: heh I am not sure what you need now :-) |
| 02:39.22 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: did you want a numeric calculator or presentation ? |
| 02:39.30 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: try octave, its pretty nice. |
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| 02:39.44 | Led_Zepp1lin | kb: octave is a lot like MatLab |
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| 02:40.05 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: I have octave installed are you saying I can import that into emacs ? |
| 02:40.26 | kb | octave-2.1.72 High-level language, intended for numerical computations |
| 02:40.33 | kb | I have that installed allready |
| 02:40.44 | kevsthabest | hey guys,, quick question from me today,, lets say i want to install a package from a offshot of debian (ie: ubuntu) would it break my system? |
| 02:41.07 | unstable | kevsthabest: depends on the package |
| 02:41.15 | unstable | kevsthabest: If you install libc from ubuntu, yes. |
| 02:41.15 | kevsthabest | gnome2.14? |
| 02:41.27 | unstable | kevsthabest: not a good idea at all |
| 02:41.27 | gravity | That's not one package. That's a lot of packages |
| 02:41.31 | gravity | It'll probably break a lot |
| 02:41.33 | kevsthabest | lol |
| 02:41.38 | unstable | kevsthabest: Just format and use ubuntu |
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| 02:41.51 | unstable | kevsthabest: Or dist-upgrade to unstable, 2.14 is in unstable. |
| 02:41.59 | gravity | Or just pull it from unstable |
| 02:42.12 | gravity | Ah, I'm the echo. I'll just go back to drinking |
| 02:42.15 | kevsthabest | i didnt see it.. i'll just doing a apt-get for it then:) |
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| 02:42.35 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: Ah, yes /<-rad ... Octave works in Emacs |
| 02:42.50 | kb | Led_Zepp1lin: screw VI/VIM |
| 02:42.53 | Led_Zeppelin | :-) |
| 02:42.57 | Led_Zeppelin | kb: have fun |
| 02:43.04 | kevsthabest | i didnt think that 2.14 was fully uploaded yet.. hence why i was trying to build it.. now i got sick and tired of getting fontconfig errors.. |
| 02:43.04 | ceplma | kb: I believe octave (and matlab) now works even with LyX :-) |
| 02:43.31 | ceplma | kb: (not that I would ever try it) |
| 02:43.52 | unstable | gravity: Can I get packages from ftp master's queue?(download/install them)? |
| 02:43.55 | kevsthabest | anyways thanks for the quick response guys.. see ya'll around |
| 02:44.13 | gravity | unstable: No, that's not allowed due to crypto-in-main |
| 02:44.19 | strider | kevsthabest: it'll be uploaded soon. Check: http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-2.14-status.html |
| 02:44.22 | gravity | unstable: You may want to write the guy who did the upload and just ask him |
| 02:44.28 | unstable | gravity: But xvidcap doesn't use crypto. |
| 02:44.32 | zood_ | anybody have a tip on playing .mov's? I've tried using xine and the mplayer "essential" codecs but it doesn't work. |
| 02:44.39 | gravity | unstable: I know, but it doesn't matter. It's another legal issue. |
| 02:44.41 | unstable | gravity: I understand about the shitty american laws about exporting crypto |
| 02:44.47 | unstable | damn america |
| 02:44.51 | unstable | fucking morons |
| 02:44.52 | ceplma | zood_: what does it say? you may try ffmpeg |
| 02:44.53 | gravity | fuck off |
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| 02:45.03 | unstable | lol, I live in New York |
| 02:45.26 | kb | unstable: So do I |
| 02:45.43 | unstable | kb: What part? |
| 02:45.51 | kb | unstable: Orange County |
| 02:46.02 | Pegger | humm who to by servers from for debain, sun or hp??? |
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| 02:46.27 | ceplma | Pegger: s/by/buy/ :-) |
| 02:46.28 | unstable | Pegger: You can't buy servers from debian.(can you?) |
| 02:46.45 | unstable | Pegger: And HP/Sun are very different choices. |
| 02:46.49 | ceplma | not /from/ Debian, *for* Debian |
| 02:46.52 | unstable | Pegger: What are you trying to do exactly? |
| 02:46.53 | camilo | hello, im nu and barely speak english |
| 02:46.55 | shogunx | Pegger i'll sell you some servers:) |
| 02:47.05 | unstable | camilo: What country are you from? |
| 02:47.15 | camilo | colombia |
| 02:47.18 | unstable | !es |
| 02:47.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:47.34 | Pegger | unstable, i never said I was buying them from debian, let me quote my self "...for debian" |
| 02:47.37 | ceplma | camilo: nothing against that, only that it took me some time before I understood what you meant (and yes, I am Czech, so English is my second language as well; actually, the third one). |
| 02:47.56 | unstable | Pegger: What are you trying to do? How many servers are you buying? And what are they for? |
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| 02:48.16 | ceplma | !cs |
| 02:48.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cs is computer science , or counter strike |
| 02:48.18 | lcore | how to check exit code of last command? |
| 02:48.26 | sanxiyn | lcore: echo $? |
| 02:48.32 | unstable | !cz |
| 02:48.32 | dpkg | cz is probably Czech Republic. Kanal pro cechy je #debian-cz |
| 02:48.34 | Pegger | unstable, to run asterisk on, adn to be as easy to manage as possible, and be fast |
| 02:49.01 | ceplma | unstable: that's bad -- should not it be language code, not country code ? |
| 02:49.01 | camilo | ok, anyway i read english, just dont write it so mucho |
| 02:49.08 | Pegger | sun are awsome with their serial port for lom, and hp arnt bad with their own lom |
| 02:49.09 | lcore | sanxiyn: thanks. Slipped out of my mind. |
| 02:49.21 | unstable | Pegger: Just one server?(how much do you want to pay) |
| 02:49.24 | shogunx | Pegger phone switches need to be extra stable... like 5 9's stable... people get nasty when their phones do not work. |
| 02:49.32 | Pegger | no I think I will need abotu 3 |
| 02:49.48 | unstable | !uptime |
| 02:49.58 | ceplma | dpkg: s/cechy/Cechy/ ;-) |
| 02:50.04 | unstable | !test |
| 02:50.04 | dpkg | No, unstable, you're not online any more. |
| 02:50.22 | Pegger | yaha i know about stable, that is why I am not going to buy from the guy downthe street who puts them toghter in his gurage |
| 02:50.22 | sanxiyn | From debian-devel: apparently, GPL v3 drops its "can't ship with OS together" clause, which was problematic for Nexenta. |
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| 02:50.34 | shogunx | !kludge |
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| 02:51.15 | unstable | !uptime |
| 02:51.20 | unstable | hmm, what is wrong with dpkg |
| 02:51.34 | sanxiyn | And then, dpkg is licensed under "version 2 or any later version", so when GPL v3 releases, the "problem" should fix itself. |
| 02:51.43 | Pegger | shogunx, answer this question, if no one actully uses a server at night, and the server goes down every nigth, then is the server really down? |
| 02:51.59 | sanxiyn | Debian could wait, as (I think) it waited relicensing of Mozilla. |
| 02:51.59 | shogunx | Pegger the host i chose for that was a recycled ibm-2105-ess. |
| 02:52.02 | zood_ | ceplma, thanks for the tip ffplay works for .mov |
| 02:52.18 | Pegger | shogunx, choose for what? |
| 02:52.25 | shogunx | Pegger if nobody uses it at night, you need more users. |
| 02:52.36 | shogunx | for asterisk/openss7 |
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| 02:52.53 | shogunx | pstn/viop gateway. |
| 02:52.59 | Pegger | shogunx, yes your are correct I need users in diffrent time zones, but that is beyond the point |
| 02:53.00 | shogunx | voip that is. |
| 02:53.20 | ceplma | zood_: you're welcome |
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| 02:53.39 | r3vld | how do i add a user to the wheel group |
| 02:53.40 | r3vld | ? |
| 02:53.40 | Pegger | humm is only voip where like dns, one server goes down the phone just tries to connect to the next in line |
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| 02:53.51 | xtest | Hi all. I installed debian sarge for the first time last night. The unzip utility was not installed. I see that it's on the website but I can't find it with apt-file. How do I install it? |
| 02:53.53 | zood_ | ceplma, ah well audio doesn't play though |
| 02:54.02 | shogunx | Pegger does a bear shit in the wood if nobody sees him do it? same thing. if you are rebooting every night, there is some other type of problem;) |
| 02:54.03 | ceplma | r3vld: adduser user wheel ??? |
| 02:54.03 | r3vld | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.06 | r3vld | OK |
| 02:54.21 | r3vld | DO I have the groupd wheel ? |
| 02:54.28 | Pegger | ya ya i know |
| 02:54.55 | ceplma | zood_: what codecs for audio? ffplay -stats <filename> |
| 02:54.57 | r3vld | adduser: The group `wheel' does not exist |
| 02:55.26 | shogunx | Pegger anyway, fi you have the cash, the IBM power5 machines do pretty well, though my first choice for that type of thing is an Alpha based box. |
| 02:55.28 | ceplma | r3vld: addgroup(1) |
| 02:55.28 | chealer | xtest: you install the unzip package |
| 02:55.32 | Pegger | r3vld, so make it |
| 02:55.41 | ceplma | sorry, addgroup(8) |
| 02:55.54 | sanxiyn | r3vld: I think there's a gropu named "staff" in Debian? |
| 02:56.02 | r3vld | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `8' |
| 02:56.04 | xtest | chealer, can you tell me the apt command? |
| 02:56.07 | shogunx | Pegger and if you don't have the cash, build it yourself. add openmosix so you can scale it without replacing. |
| 02:56.23 | Pegger | shogunx, why are power5 what advantage to they supply? |
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| 02:56.29 | sanxiyn | r3tex: blahblah(number) usually referes to the manpage. So, man addgroup. |
| 02:56.30 | chealer | xtest: the apt-get command? that would be # apt-get install unzip |
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| 02:56.39 | zood_ | ceplma mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2 |
| 02:56.48 | sanxiyn | Oops, was to r3vld. |
| 02:56.55 | ceplma | r3vld: when somebody writes name of the command with number in brackets it means that you should go to the particular manpage (in this case man 8 addgroup) |
| 02:56.58 | upper | has anyone seen a hack/new type of panel on linux that emulate the vector icons on os-x ? |
| 02:57.17 | r3vld | Enter a groupname to add: wheel |
| 02:57.17 | r3vld | Adding group `wheel' (1008)... |
| 02:57.26 | shogunx | Pegger i just happen to like them. well built. i use one at the university of portland, 8 proc power5. pretty smoking with make -j8 |
| 02:57.28 | ceplma | upper: aren't icons in KDE already SVG? |
| 02:57.33 | r3vld | but how do i make it add it to a number |
| 02:57.46 | xtest | chealer. Thanks! That worked perfectly. |
| 02:57.50 | ceplma | r3vld: what do you mean? |
| 02:58.02 | upper | ceplma: hahah yep .. duh, been in xp for months *smacks head on desk* |
| 02:58.03 | r3vld | like i want the group wheel to be |
| 02:58.06 | r3vld | 8 |
| 02:58.20 | r3vld | addgroup(8) ? |
| 02:58.23 | zood_ | ceplma, problem solved thanks |
| 02:58.27 | ceplma | r3vld: I don't know and does it matter? |
| 02:58.41 | sanxiyn | r3vld: groupmod -g 8 wheel |
| 02:58.45 | sanxiyn | r3vld: But why does it matter? |
| 02:58.53 | r3vld | nvm |
| 02:58.56 | sanxiyn | r3vld: And gid 8 is already something else. |
| 02:58.57 | r_marvin | r3vld: the 8 does not mean the gid |
| 02:59.08 | r_marvin | the 8 is the manpage section |
| 02:59.19 | r3vld | ohh |
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| 02:59.30 | r_marvin | that is, use "man 8 addgroup" instead of "man addgroup" |
| 02:59.47 | sanxiyn | r_marvin: Both works in this case. |
| 02:59.49 | r_marvin | see man(1) for details ;) |
| 02:59.52 | ceplma | and also it is nice reminder that you should read manpage :-) |
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| 03:00.43 | r_marvin | sanxiyn: well, when someine goes to the trouble of specifying the section, i usually include it in my man command |
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| 03:01.02 | r_marvin | they might know something |
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| 03:03.14 | acron0248 | hi.... |
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| 03:10.16 | prem | hi all, |
| 03:10.52 | prem | all of a sudden cdrom is not auto mounted in my etch amd64 , any idea how to do it and also for the usb drive |
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| 03:12.50 | unstable | prem: What window manager or desktop enviroment are you using? |
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| 03:13.43 | prem | unstable, gnome 2.12 |
| 03:14.19 | unstable | !#gnome |
| 03:14.19 | dpkg | The gnome IRC channel is #gnome at irc.gnome.org, or for debian gnome related use #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
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| 03:14.50 | nok | what is the command to configure X again????please |
| 03:14.52 | fbhjr | ratpoison |
| 03:14.58 | gravity | !drxx |
| 03:14.58 | dpkg | methinks drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 03:15.27 | gnu2it2 | when my box boots it shows the penguin in the upper left and the text is nice and crisp,, but when X loads it no longer fits on the screen. how do i find the settings of when it first boots? |
| 03:15.49 | travisat | gnu2it2: what doesn't fit |
| 03:16.00 | nok | is xsetup the command to configure X |
| 03:16.21 | gnu2it2 | screen size too tall and wide |
| 03:16.25 | gravity | gnu2it2: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (or xorg.conf if you're in etch or sid). Check /var/log for the X log to see what went wrong with your resolution |
| 03:16.32 | gravity | nok: The command that dpkg said above is what you want |
| 03:16.37 | gravity | nok: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 03:16.38 | travisat | gnu2it2: reconfigure X, the console and x use different resolution configurations |
| 03:17.04 | nok | ok thanks...but is this the little graphical inbstaller? |
| 03:17.28 | gravity | "little graphical installer"? |
| 03:17.29 | travisat | nok: its the one that is when you inbstall debian |
| 03:18.09 | travisat | at least at the x configurating paart |
| 03:18.27 | travisat | if you install x that is |
| 03:18.38 | nok | ok sorry I mean is it a text mode thing or its a command-type thing? |
| 03:18.50 | nok | ok its more like the installer |
| 03:19.07 | nok | in fact i just finish the basic installation, |
| 03:19.35 | travisat | I have finished installing debian |
| 03:19.39 | travisat | not, hahahaha |
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| 03:20.19 | nok | and i used "apt-get x-window-system fluxbox" to install the graphical mode...is it ok , do i have to do something else to configure it ...probably is it the line you wrote&???? |
| 03:21.08 | unstable | nok: What version of debian? |
| 03:21.18 | nok | wo, im tired Im having trouble to talk im sorry |
| 03:21.22 | nok | the last release |
| 03:21.32 | nok | kernel 2.6 |
| 03:21.53 | unstable | nok: 2.6.8*? |
| 03:22.03 | unstable | Or 2.6.12* or 2.6.15*? |
| 03:22.07 | nok | how do I know ??? |
| 03:22.14 | unstable | !version |
| 03:22.14 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
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| 03:22.24 | travisat | unstable: why should it matter |
| 03:22.29 | c0uin | hi all |
| 03:22.42 | unstable | travisat: So I know to tell him to install xfree86 or xorg |
| 03:22.51 | travisat | unstable: oh yeah |
| 03:22.57 | travisat | !set up x |
| 03:22.57 | dpkg | from memory, set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 03:23.14 | nok | dpkg:they say.....3.1???? |
| 03:23.15 | unstable | travisat: That doesn't help him, since he doesn't know what version of debian he is running. |
| 03:23.28 | unstable | nok: type "cat /etc/debian_version" |
| 03:23.32 | unstable | nok: What does that tell you? |
| 03:23.54 | nok | 3.1 |
| 03:23.58 | nok | ??? |
| 03:24.08 | c0uin | anyone can help me with LVM2 because i have an error when i try to vreate LV |
| 03:24.10 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.10 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.10 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.10 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.50 | travisat | correct me if I am wrong but 3.1 is sarge |
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| 03:25.18 | travisat | !3.1 |
| 03:25.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, 3.1 is sarge |
| 03:25.43 | Pegger | !3.0 |
| 03:25.43 | dpkg | hmm... 3.0 is codenamed woody |
| 03:25.50 | Pegger | !3.0 |
| 03:25.57 | nok | ok but after all it just ask me by itself.... |
| 03:26.01 | unstable | nok: /j 2 |
| 03:26.04 | unstable | er, ignore that |
| 03:26.08 | nok | lol |
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| 03:26.35 | c0uin | anyone can help me with my error ? |
| 03:26.50 | unstable | nok: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 gdm fluxbox |
| 03:27.14 | c0uin | because i know kernel 2.6 have device-mapper support |
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| 03:28.15 | nok | unstable:somebody told me I dont need xdm...what is it..should I add it |
| 03:28.38 | Pegger | shogunx you run any openmosix clusters |
| 03:28.39 | travisat | nok: graphical desktop manager. you don't boot to a terminal, but to a login screen |
| 03:29.07 | travisat | nok: if you install gdm, you don't need xdm |
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| 03:29.12 | nok | kool |
| 03:29.18 | nok | what is the best? |
| 03:29.23 | karma | I have just setup a new server and move an account that I host to the new server. I set it up with a username of reynoldsfire, they would like to change the username to reynolds. Is there an easy way to change the username, or an easy way to create a user reynolds that would use the home dir of reynoldsfire? |
| 03:29.41 | travisat | nok: for most people gdm works good, hard to say what is best as they all have their uses |
| 03:30.27 | nok | kool |
| 03:30.34 | travisat | karma: easiest way I know of is create a new user reynolds, copy reynoldsfire's home to reynolds and chown it all to reynold |
| 03:30.37 | nok | thank you so much, youre helping me a lot |
| 03:30.56 | karma | I trid to adduser with --home /home/reynoldsfire but it complained that the home dir already exists |
| 03:31.20 | nok | hey....I have a old 233MMX laptop toshiba, do you think the graphic is 8,16,24 BIT??? |
| 03:31.24 | travisat | karma: I don't believe you can have two users with the same home directory, at least not easily |
| 03:31.39 | c0uin | nobody for my problem ?? |
| 03:31.53 | travisat | nok: try 24, if too slow use 16, if too slow use 8 |
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| 03:32.16 | nok | ok but wont bug? |
| 03:32.19 | travisat | but 16 would probably be your best bet |
| 03:32.22 | karma | travisat: I have already moved their site and there are a lot of places that use the path... so if i just create a reynolds user then I am going to have to change all the code to reflect the new home dir |
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| 03:32.54 | travisat | karma: have you tried to ln it |
| 03:33.07 | c0uin | please help me loll |
| 03:33.11 | nok | how do I know all the packages I can apt-get? |
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| 03:33.23 | travisat | nok: use aptitude or synaptic |
| 03:33.39 | travisat | or dselect if you feel masochistic |
| 03:33.52 | chance2105 | dselect rocks my world |
| 03:34.12 | karma | travisat: so I would create user reynolds and just ln the whole home dir? sounds like I might have problems down the road, but I have not linked a lot of things to really know |
| 03:34.17 | nok | ok, but i think I havent seen fluxbox in aptitude and im able to use apt-get with it? |
| 03:34.33 | travisat | fluxbox is in aptitude |
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| 03:34.51 | travisat | karma: you are beyond me. I would rewrite the code to reflect the change. |
| 03:34.57 | nok | really, i havent find it...dunno |
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| 03:35.03 | karma | ouch |
| 03:35.17 | chance2105 | nok: Run aptitude. Hit the "/" key. Type in fluxbox. Hit <enter>. |
| 03:35.33 | nok | ok...thanks |
| 03:35.34 | travisat | karma: find...replace |
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| 03:35.51 | travisat | s/reynoldsfire/reynolds |
| 03:36.01 | c0uin | really nobody for halp me with LVM2 ??? |
| 03:36.15 | c0uin | u see what i write on channel ?? |
| 03:36.22 | travisat | lvm2 broke my computer when I accidently installed it once. |
| 03:36.28 | karma | travisat: but reynoldsfire is in the domain so it will change that when it changes the path |
| 03:36.47 | c0uin | an accident :p |
| 03:36.57 | travisat | my harddrive whas in twain |
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| 03:37.45 | c0uin | but i want to use him, it seems very good |
| 03:37.49 | casidgcoi | exists the complete package of the zero install of rox-filer? I do not want to directly install apps of net |
| 03:38.31 | c0uin | but i have a shit error :S |
| 03:38.52 | travisat | c0uin: do what you like, I suggest google for help as you haven't found any here yet. |
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| 03:39.18 | yxa | any distributed fs on debian yet? |
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| 03:40.15 | nok | hé...thats weird I didn't install xdm, only x-window-system and it look like its installing it?? |
| 03:40.44 | gravity | nok: x-window-system pulls in xdm |
| 03:40.45 | tavancini | guys, i have the source code of subversion here, how can i make my own .deb package?? |
| 03:40.48 | gravity | There's no mystery to it |
| 03:40.59 | gravity | peterS: ^ |
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| 03:41.25 | peterS | thanks, gravity (: |
| 03:41.29 | gravity | heh |
| 03:41.47 | peterS | tavancini: simplest thing is to take the source package in unstable and compile it yourself using the regular debian tools |
| 03:41.56 | casidgcoi | exists the complete package of the zero install of rox-filer? I do not want to directly install apps of net |
| 03:42.10 | peterS | tavancini: you can compile it on stable after making just a couple of changes, which I can describe if you're interested in doing that. unstable has subversion 1.3.1, which is the latest upstream |
| 03:42.30 | rox | casidgcoi: we heared you the first time |
| 03:42.38 | tavancini | but which command sequence i ca use? |
| 03:42.39 | tavancini | *can |
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| 03:42.49 | casidgcoi | rox? |
| 03:43.28 | travisat | casidgcoi: have you tried google? |
| 03:43.34 | peterS | tavancini: first download the source package from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/subversion - there are 3 files: the .orig.tar.gz, the .diff.gz and the .dsc |
| 03:43.37 | casidgcoi | travisat yes |
| 03:43.46 | casidgcoi | no success |
| 03:43.47 | travisat | casidgcoi: google knows more than me |
| 03:43.50 | peterS | tavancini: (the .orig.tar.gz is identical to upstream's subversion-1.3.1.tar.gz, so you can just rename that if you wish) |
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| 03:44.12 | peterS | tavancini: then, 'dpkg-source -x subversion_1.3.1-1.dsc' to extract it |
| 03:44.24 | tavancini | ohhh cool! |
| 03:44.32 | peterS | tavancini: then 'cd subversion-1.3.1' and make a couple of edits: |
| 03:44.32 | tavancini | i will try rght now... wait. |
| 03:44.35 | c0uin | i dont find help for my error in google |
| 03:44.43 | tavancini | peterS: please, continue :) |
| 03:45.15 | peterS | tavancini: ok: edit debian/rules, look for the line near the top "ENABLE_JAVAHL := yes", change that to no. the java bindings apparently don't work on debian sarge. |
| 03:45.29 | peterS | tavancini: then edit debian/control, change the two instances of 'libneon25-dev' to 'libneon24-dev' |
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| 03:45.40 | travisat | c0uin: google doesn't solve all of my problems either, for instance in kde, konqueror won't preview jpg or png files for me |
| 03:45.47 | peterS | tavancini: also in debian/control: the Build-Depends line, remove the references to the kaffe packages and junit. those are also about java. |
| 03:46.30 | peterS | tavancini: now you can build the package, assuming the build dependencies are installed. you can read about them in the Build-Depends line and install them manually |
| 03:46.53 | peterS | tavancini: also an implicit build dependency is the 'build-essential' package, make sure that's installed |
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| 03:46.59 | travisat | isn't their a build-dep option for apt-get |
| 03:47.00 | ceplma | go back to subversion-1.3.1 and run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
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| 03:47.08 | c0uin | yes but maybe anyone here have already meet the same problem* |
| 03:47.15 | peterS | travisat: there is, but if you don't have a proper deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list it won't do you much good |
| 03:47.21 | tavancini | peterS: i renamed the .tar.gz to .dsc... then i put dpkg-source -x subversion-1.3.1.dsc |
| 03:47.35 | tavancini | and i got this error: dpkg-source: error: syntax error in source control file ./subversion-1.3.1.dsc at line 2: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value) |
| 03:47.39 | roderyk | What is the best way of sharing music on my server with several clients (LAN only, not internet)? From what I understand, mpd is one broadcast with several clients controlling it, but I want each client to have seperate control on what they want to hear, seperate playlists, etc. I guess I could just spawn a couple mpd daemons, but I hope there is a better way? |
| 03:47.41 | peterS | tavancini: that won't work, the .dsc is a separate file. download it from the site. |
| 03:47.42 | ceplma | tavancini: that's bad, you need all three files |
| 03:47.51 | tavancini | ahhh |
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| 03:48.02 | travisat | roderyk: nfs? |
| 03:48.08 | peterS | tavancini: the .dsc is a text file that describes the other two files - you can read it and see for yourself. those other two files must exist in the same directory - subversion-1.3.1.orig.tar.gz and subversion-1.3.1-1.diff.gz |
| 03:48.15 | nok | why is my text so bad in fluxbox??? |
| 03:48.22 | chealer | [gravity:] just wondering, why does xorg-x11's transition to testing depend on gcc-4.1's? it was built using it (on some arches)? |
| 03:48.34 | peterS | tavancini: so you can rename subversion-1.3.1.tar.gz to subversion_1.3.1.orig.tar.gz and download the other two files. |
| 03:48.55 | peterS | assuming you have the upstream 1.3.1, that will save you having to download those extra 8 megabytes again |
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| 03:49.15 | nok | why is my text so bad in fluxbox???please |
| 03:49.19 | roderyk | travisat, well I was hoping some software was written to centrally store music ratings, playlists, etc |
| 03:49.36 | david | which port does rsync use? |
| 03:49.38 | ceplma | tavancini: basically what dpkg-source -x does it that it decompresses *.orig.tar.gz and patches it with *.diff.gz file and .dsc just controls that everything works well :-) |
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| 03:49.46 | travisat | roderyk: umm itunes |
| 03:49.53 | peterS | ceplma: it also chmod +x debian/rules |
| 03:49.53 | nok | WHO FLUXBOX IS SO FUXXXX QUICK |
| 03:50.07 | peterS | ceplma: since that's in a diff file, 'patch' knows nothing about file permissions so this has to be done explicitly |
| 03:50.10 | gravity | chealer: Yes |
| 03:50.19 | ceplma | peterS: I know, but I didn't want to make it too difficult |
| 03:50.23 | peterS | heh |
| 03:50.41 | kevsthabes | hey guys,, anyone here would know why some software i have installed takes almost 5minutes to install? |
| 03:50.59 | ceplma | kevsthabes: like? what's your computer? |
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| 03:51.05 | chealer | yes: why? gcc-4.0 is still the default gcc, isn't it? |
| 03:51.11 | peterS | tavancini: ok so after you get those 3 files and edit debian/rules and debian/control the way I described, you can run dpkg-buildpackage. I recommend installing the 'fakeroot' package so that you can run the build step without being root |
| 03:51.22 | peterS | tavancini: specifically: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc |
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| 03:51.28 | chealer | gravity: hehe. s/yes/gravity |
| 03:51.35 | peterS | tavancini: then wait about 40 minutes (if your machine is as fast as mine) and look in the parent directory for your .deb files |
| 03:51.51 | gravity | chealer: I honestly don't know |
| 03:51.56 | gravity | I haven't been paying close enough attention |
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| 03:52.14 | tavancini | peterS: i did the dpkg-source trick now |
| 03:52.19 | tavancini | it works... and now? |
| 03:52.22 | w_up | anyone here good with printers |
| 03:52.24 | kevsthabes | ceplma: exemple would be azureus right now... took almost 5minutes for the splash to come up, thats on a 3 day old install of sid,.. my pc is 2.4ghz celeron D, 374ish megs of ram, onboard i810 vdo |
| 03:52.32 | peterS | tavancini: ok so 'cd subversion-1.3.1' and then edit the two files I told you about |
| 03:52.34 | w_up | I'm trying to get a Samsung CLP-500 to print |
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| 03:52.47 | chealer | gravity: OK. I was frustrated to see that it was delayed again, but vorlon forced gcc-4.1, so it seems xorg-x11 could transition next britney run |
| 03:52.48 | ceplma | kevsthabes: OK, no idea. |
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| 03:53.01 | gravity | Nifty. I didn't know that |
| 03:53.05 | travisat | w_up: have you checked linux-printing or whateveritscalled |
| 03:53.11 | kevsthabes | lol its kewl.. thanks anyways ceplma.. anyone else want to give my problem a try? |
| 03:53.11 | peterS | debian/rules -> ENABLE_JAVAHL := no. debian/control -> remove Build-depends: kaffe stuff and junit, change 'libneon25-dev' to 'libneon24-dev' in 2 places |
| 03:53.18 | ceplma | travisat: s/-// |
| 03:53.27 | w_up | yes |
| 03:53.32 | tavancini | ok, what i nee to change? |
| 03:53.40 | tavancini | ahh |
| 03:53.46 | w_up | I followed as the steps that worked for some |
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| 03:54.07 | w_up | I got as far as getting the printer installed and then trying to print the test page |
| 03:54.31 | peterS | tavancini: I'd make a web page about how to do all this, since people keep asking, but what I need to do instead is just release a sarge version on backports.org. (I keep trying to find time to do that. when I do, you can just download that instead of building your own) |
| 03:54.34 | w_up | once I try to print the test page, the job just hangs and gets aborted |
| 03:55.00 | nok | does somebody know HOW to make my windows with transpanrency on fluxbox please |
| 03:55.04 | travisat | w_up: did you download a ppd |
| 03:55.18 | liable | w_up: they are hard to understand, but is there any clues in the cupsd log? |
| 03:55.22 | tavancini | ok! |
| 03:55.40 | tavancini | now i can do the dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc ? |
| 03:55.52 | peterS | tavancini: yes, if you have installed the build dependencies plus 'build-essential' plus 'fakeroot' |
| 03:56.03 | w_up | I downloaded the ppd from Samsung |
| 03:56.03 | peterS | tavancini: if you've missed any build dependencies, dpkg-buildpackage will tell you |
| 03:56.05 | travisat | w_up: how did you set it up? cups dialogue? |
| 03:56.06 | ceplma | tavancini: if you are in subversion-* directory |
| 03:57.08 | w_up | I followed the steps at linuxprinting.org |
| 03:57.19 | w_up | eventually that got to cups dialogue |
| 03:57.24 | nok | ok please, where is the file I can use to mannuelly configure my resoltion in fluxbox??? |
| 03:57.26 | tavancini | ok, iwill install the dependecies, wait |
| 03:57.28 | w_up | and I installed the printer |
| 03:57.40 | peterS | tavancini: if you run the dpkg-buildpackage line, it will tell you what you are missing |
| 03:57.58 | peterS | might be easier than trying to read the build-depends line in debian/control on your own (it's pretty cluttered) |
| 03:58.03 | w_up | then I tried to print a test page from printers - control center |
| 03:58.12 | tavancini | yeah,i saw that :) |
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| 04:00.19 | travisat | w_up: judgin by the users notes on linuxprinting that printer is a bitch to set up |
| 04:00.40 | kusznir | hi all: I'm trying to get an ipod to mount via firewire on a knoppmyth system (debian-based), and seem to be having problems with the kernel not seeing it properly. I suspect I haven't got something loaded or installed, but none of the documents indicate otherwise. |
| 04:00.53 | w_up | you can say that again |
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| 04:01.10 | travisat | w_up: I would try to help you but to much alcohol makes a man go to sleep. |
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| 04:01.41 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 04:01.45 | kusznir | Currently the ieee1394 module gives me Node changed:... messages, but that's as far as it gets...it never sets up a virtual scsi device or anything. |
| 04:01.47 | w_up | how do you get my name in front and the highlighted text to me |
| 04:01.52 | unstable | !tell kusznir about knoppix |
| 04:01.55 | unstable | !greet obscuresoul |
| 04:01.55 | dpkg | Howdy, obscuresoul |
| 04:02.15 | obscuresoul | i've installed vlc, but i only can hear the music...i see no image...what can i do? |
| 04:02.30 | unstable | w_up: Your client does this automatically. w_up whatever irc client you're using. When someone says your name in front, it will highlight it. |
| 04:02.41 | unstable | !tell obscuresoul about pt |
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| 04:03.21 | w_up | travisat: like this? |
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| 04:03.30 | r3vld | how do i install TCL |
| 04:03.36 | unstable | !tell obscuresoul about marillat |
| 04:03.41 | unstable | !tell r3vld about tcl |
| 04:03.43 | r3vld | apt-get ? |
| 04:03.51 | unstable | !tell obscuresoul about gmplayer |
| 04:04.32 | unstable | r3vld: What are you trying to install?(eggdrop?) |
| 04:04.55 | billybob | i'm tyring to run my sony recovery disk but it won't recognize my 60 as anything mroe that 8gigs, anybody know a driver to install while booting? i need to do thsi b4 i can load debian |
| 04:05.06 | obscuresoul | unstable: tks |
| 04:05.34 | ceplma | !tell ceplma about marillat |
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| 04:05.49 | unstable | obscuresoul: São bem-vindo. |
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| 04:05.59 | unstable | ceplma: /msg dpkg marillat; /msg dpkg help; |
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| 04:06.07 | unstable | !tell ceplma about msgdpkg |
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| 04:06.23 | w_up | unstable: could you help me with a Samsung printer |
| 04:06.30 | obscuresoul | unstable: i'm running sarge. that ackage from marillat is stable? |
| 04:06.39 | obscuresoul | s/ackage/package |
| 04:06.44 | obscuresoul | *is |
| 04:06.44 | unstable | w_up: I don't know anything about printers. sorry. I'm too poor to afford a printer. |
| 04:06.51 | unstable | obscuresoul: correct |
| 04:06.53 | w_up | np |
| 04:06.55 | unstable | !marillat.sarge |
| 04:06.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat.sarge is type echo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; as root to add the marillat repository if you are using debian/3.1 |
| 04:06.55 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 04:06.56 | dpkg | somebody said popcon was the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 04:07.08 | obscuresoul | unstable: thank you |
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| 04:08.15 | setient | what is so good about marillat |
| 04:08.34 | unstable | obscuresoul: Once you add that line to your sources.list; apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer |
| 04:08.44 | setient | billybob oh oh i seen that the 8 gig limit thing |
| 04:08.46 | unstable | setient: It hosts packages debian doesn't/can not for legal reasons. |
| 04:08.49 | setient | what speed machine |
| 04:08.56 | setient | unstable oh. |
| 04:08.56 | unstable | setient: Such as packages to rip a dvd, or video editing packages. etc. |
| 04:09.00 | setient | yeah |
| 04:09.15 | billybob | setient yeah it blows |
| 04:09.16 | unstable | These packages would be considered illegal in some countries like United States. |
| 04:09.22 | setient | billybob it is a p1 right? |
| 04:09.24 | setient | or a 486? |
| 04:09.35 | billybob | setient no its a p4!! |
| 04:09.40 | setient | whoa. |
| 04:09.44 | setient | that is just retarded then |
| 04:09.47 | billybob | yeah |
| 04:09.55 | billybob | setient it works with 40 gigs but not 60 gigs |
| 04:09.56 | setient | really retarded |
| 04:10.06 | setient | some ide controllers don't like certain drives |
| 04:10.18 | unstable | setient: Welcome to the world of copyright/patents/dmca/drm |
| 04:10.19 | billybob | ooooooooo |
| 04:10.20 | setient | on blue and white g3's they have that issue |
| 04:10.27 | setient | unstable i use a mac for a desktop |
| 04:10.32 | setient | i can't stand linux desktops anymore |
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| 04:10.43 | billybob | setient do u know a driver i could install? |
| 04:10.51 | peterS | setient: no reason not to have both. use debian on your mac, for a desktop |
| 04:11.18 | setient | no |
| 04:11.21 | ShadowJK | lol |
| 04:11.23 | setient | then i wouldn't be able to use some of the hardware. |
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| 04:11.55 | setient | i would rather stab myself in the face then try running linux as a desktop again on a non x86 |
| 04:12.13 | setient | or freebsd or any of them |
| 04:12.18 | peterS | can't say I'm particularly in favor of facestabbing |
| 04:12.19 | setient | i tried freebsd/alpha as a desktop and failed that |
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| 04:12.41 | ShadowJK | Alphas came with framebuffers? :-) |
| 04:12.51 | setient | most can use like voodoo 3's |
| 04:12.52 | setient | and such |
| 04:12.54 | setient | matrox cards |
| 04:12.57 | unstable | peterS: neither am I, my carpal tunnels makes it difficult to turn my wrist back towards my face. |
| 04:13.00 | ShadowJK | Oh |
| 04:13.03 | setient | if you want to really get into it most are just rebranded cards |
| 04:13.10 | setient | like a sun expert 3d lite |
| 04:13.16 | setient | is a raedon 7000 series gpu |
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| 04:13.41 | peterS | cute factoid I just learned recently, the IBM GXT-2000P is actually a Fire GL1 |
| 04:13.51 | setient | and alpha's are really similiar to x86 machines |
| 04:13.59 | myboxen | evening folks, I just finnished installing testing, and it doesn't seem to have apt-setup |
| 04:14.07 | peterS | I mean, I knew IBM made the Fire GL1 GPU, but didn't realise it was the same chip |
| 04:14.22 | setient | rebranding is silly |
| 04:14.27 | myboxen | apt-get, apt-search is there. I cant seem to find the package that apt-setup is located in. |
| 04:14.30 | myboxen | any ideas? |
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| 04:14.54 | gnu2it2 | what goes in xorg.conf so that "ctrl-alt-minus and plus will switch screen resolutions? |
| 04:14.57 | setient | i don't have it on a stable |
| 04:15.05 | setient | try dpkg-reconfigure packagenamehere |
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| 04:15.21 | chealer | gravity: sorry to disturb you again, but I was wondering, since you're the one who built i386's latest xserver-xorg which depends on libgcc1>4.1.0, is gcc-4.1 the default gcc on you build machine (your laptop, IIRC? :) )? |
| 04:15.27 | r3vld | how di i install a .deb |
| 04:15.27 | r3vld | file |
| 04:15.28 | r3vld | ? |
| 04:15.37 | r3vld | install a deb file ? |
| 04:15.50 | gravity | chealer: Yes, I didn't touch gcc at all |
| 04:15.51 | obscuresoul | unstable: and now how can i play a movie? |
| 04:16.09 | unstable | obscuresoul: mplayer movie |
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| 04:16.30 | chealer | gravity: OK...I didn't expect you to answer anything else, but thanks anyway :) |
| 04:16.41 | obscuresoul | unstable: i've already tried it, it returns me a lot of warnings and maybe errors |
| 04:16.43 | unstable | obscuresoul: or maybe "gmplayer movie" |
| 04:17.54 | obscuresoul | unstable: it doesn't work |
| 04:18.14 | unstable | obscuresoul: What is the movie/file type? |
| 04:18.15 | nok | please, where the init file for fluxbox??? |
| 04:18.19 | unstable | obscuresoul: type "file thenameofthemoviehere" |
| 04:18.31 | gravity | too... much... punctuation |
| 04:18.39 | unstable | nok: ~/.fluxbox/init |
| 04:18.42 | HugLeo | I am studying architecture of computers. Somebody knows? If in the memory instructions and data they are stored without separation, as is made the distinction? For example: In the memoria it exists: 000111001 This can be one data or one isntruçao. I wanted to know I eat I differentiate |
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| 04:18.46 | sagarp | how can i get rid of packages that are not being used? |
| 04:19.03 | unstable | sagarp: apt-get remove them? |
| 04:19.21 | nok | unstable thanks |
| 04:19.26 | obscuresoul | unstable: wmv |
| 04:19.30 | sagarp | unstable, i mean, is there a way to list the ones that aren't being used...i dont know which they are :P |
| 04:19.34 | unstable | obscuresoul: apt-get install w32codecs |
| 04:19.38 | unstable | !w32codecs |
| 04:19.38 | dpkg | hmm... w32codecs is a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 04:19.55 | obscuresoul | tks |
| 04:19.59 | unstable | sagarp: Why did you install packages if you don't use them? |
| 04:20.36 | r_marvin | sagarp: try deborphan or debfoster. at your own risk though |
| 04:20.50 | sagarp | unstable, sometimes in an installation, when you haev a program that installed many dependencies, and then remoev the program, the dependencies remain, although they are now unused |
| 04:20.53 | unstable | sagarp: yea, I would be careful. You seem to be on the right track for hosing your system. |
| 04:20.59 | setient | so who here uses ldap on debian as a backend for pam |
| 04:21.03 | obscuresoul | unstable: tks once more |
| 04:21.12 | unstable | obscuresoul: no problem |
| 04:21.19 | unstable | !tell setient about anyone |
| 04:21.27 | sagarp | r_marvin oh, thanks :D |
| 04:21.35 | unstable | sagarp: What did you try to remove? |
| 04:21.47 | r_marvin | don't thank me yet, you may curse me later :) |
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| 04:21.54 | nok | sorry unsable but in what folder exactly please? |
| 04:22.00 | setient | so uh yeah |
| 04:22.03 | setient | that is awesome |
| 04:22.08 | sagarp | unstable: nothing particular, i just dont like a bunch of pakcages that are being unused |
| 04:22.13 | r_marvin | also, don't go debfostering unless you have a free hour or so :) |
| 04:22.16 | unstable | nok: What is your username? ie /home/nok/.fluxbox/init |
| 04:22.18 | grunge | hi |
| 04:22.19 | setient | any debian/m68k users here? |
| 04:22.32 | grunge | someone from argentina? |
| 04:22.34 | unstable | !m68k |
| 04:22.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, m68k is Motorola 680x0 CPU family, used in Macs, Ataris, Amigas, Palm machines, older Sun workstations, and various VME bus systems. linux m68k runs on some of these, ucLinux should run on the less powerful models, or http://www.linux-m68k.org/faq/faq.html |
| 04:22.51 | nok | unsable ...but theres nothing on that folder????? |
| 04:23.02 | setient | unstable i was looking for other peoples opinions on how well it runs |
| 04:23.06 | unstable | !tell grunge about es |
| 04:23.08 | billybob | sentient: do u know a disk controller i should try? sony just blew me off |
| 04:23.10 | unstable | grunge: Does that help you? |
| 04:23.19 | setient | is it a tower or a desktop? |
| 04:23.26 | billybob | laptop |
| 04:23.27 | setient | ack i m eant a laptop |
| 04:23.28 | setient | oh |
| 04:23.29 | setient | well uh |
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| 04:23.36 | setient | i don't know |
| 04:23.40 | setient | not like you can just swap shit out |
| 04:23.49 | billybob | you should be able to |
| 04:23.51 | Stevie | of course sony would blow you off |
| 04:23.56 | Stevie | they already have your money |
| 04:23.57 | billybob | damn bastard commies and thier proprietary shit |
| 04:24.04 | nok | unsable ...but theres nothing on that folder????? |
| 04:24.07 | billybob | them douche bags |
| 04:24.22 | billybob | everyone i've talked to there has given me the dumbest responses ever |
| 04:24.31 | billybob | one guy told me i don't have video out. and i do! |
| 04:24.39 | nok | what driver of video should i take???? |
| 04:24.39 | unstable | !fluxbox |
| 04:24.40 | dpkg | somebody said fluxbox was a forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or blackbox the featureless wonder with some added features You can also ask #fluxbox for non-debian specific information. |
| 04:24.47 | unstable | nok: What are you trying to do anyway? |
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| 04:25.49 | nok | im trying to put my screen on 800X600 and make fluxbox fonctionnal!!! |
| 04:26.35 | unstable | nok: What video card are you using? nok did you select 800x600 when you install xserver-xfree86? |
| 04:26.48 | billybob | what is fluxbox? i've heard of it a lot |
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| 04:27.08 | unstable | billybob: It's the greatest minimalist window manager that exists. |
| 04:27.12 | unstable | !start a window manager war |
| 04:27.13 | dpkg | KDE blows goats! |
| 04:27.21 | unstable | !fluxbox |
| 04:27.21 | dpkg | methinks fluxbox is a forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or blackbox the featureless wonder with some added features You can also ask #fluxbox for non-debian specific information. |
| 04:27.24 | nok | unstable im using an onboard card on a toshiba...233MMX...yes I said 233MMX |
| 04:27.25 | billybob | meaning....? |
| 04:27.34 | res0nat0r | !pekwm |
| 04:27.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, pekwm is a light weight window manager based on aewm++ available at http://pekdon.babblica.net/?section=home/projects/pekwm |
| 04:27.37 | obscuresoul | unstable: now it works thanks :D btw, there is no gui interface? |
| 04:27.56 | unstable | obscuresoul: use "gmplayer" or "kmplayer" |
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| 04:28.01 | unstable | obscuresoul: Do you use gnome or kde? |
| 04:28.14 | r_marvin | is there a gui/cli war factoid, too? :) |
| 04:28.20 | obscuresoul | unstable: gnome |
| 04:28.25 | res0nat0r | !ion |
| 04:28.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ion is http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/, or smaller than a breadbox |
| 04:28.29 | Brenner | someone can help me with iproute2 instalation? |
| 04:28.31 | nok | unstable:??? |
| 04:28.53 | unstable | nok: Did you select 800x600 when you installed xserver-xfree86? |
| 04:28.57 | unstable | !tell nok about drxx |
| 04:29.02 | r_marvin | Brenner: apt-get install iproute |
| 04:29.08 | r_marvin | that should do it |
| 04:29.14 | Brenner | but I need iproute2 |
| 04:29.18 | Brenner | not iproute |
| 04:29.19 | r_marvin | it is 2 |
| 04:29.25 | Brenner | is the same? |
| 04:29.28 | billybob | someone go to spherexp and make it for debian |
| 04:29.30 | billybob | GO! |
| 04:29.36 | r_marvin | the packagename is without 2 |
| 04:29.44 | Brenner | ok, thanks! |
| 04:29.47 | r_marvin | just apt-cache show iproute |
| 04:29.58 | Brenner | ok |
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| 04:31.05 | billybob | is it possible to load grub off a cd and then run it out of memory? |
| 04:31.20 | billybob | oh wait nvm... |
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| 04:36.34 | karsten | billybob: Yes. |
| 04:36.51 | karsten | billybob: ... and technically, most software runs in RAM ;-) |
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| 04:38.00 | liable | mmm, beer'o'clock |
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| 04:38.11 | nok | Im trying to run mozilla for the first time on fluxbox, i just install it(mozilla) error message:gtk-warning : cannot open display |
| 04:38.25 | liable | nok: dont run it as root |
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| 04:38.42 | nok | do you think it matter |
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| 04:38.53 | liable | yes, obviously. |
| 04:39.25 | concept10 | How do I control GTK fonts, themes and controls within fluxbox? |
| 04:39.31 | unstable | !run as root |
| 04:39.31 | dpkg | i heard run as root is something you NEVER EVER DO UNLESS YOU HAVE TO. |
| 04:39.47 | unstable | concept10: How do you do it from gnome? |
| 04:40.26 | liable | is it just me, or is it fluxbox week? |
| 04:40.41 | unstable | !grammar |
| 04:40.41 | dpkg | grammar is, like, a system of pitfalls thoughtfully prepared for the feet of the self-made man, along the path by which he advances to distinction. |
| 04:40.43 | nile | concept10, you could use gtk-theme-switch |
| 04:40.44 | peterS | when will they release the fluxbox 360? |
| 04:40.46 | concept10 | I like it for coding |
| 04:41.00 | unstable | liable: It's not "weak" it's the best window manager that exists. |
| 04:41.01 | concept10 | fast, light |
| 04:41.04 | unstable | !start a window manager war |
| 04:41.04 | dpkg | KDE blows chunks! |
| 04:41.06 | gravity | Some people like light wm's but are scared of ion |
| 04:41.15 | stew | ion! |
| 04:41.18 | concept10 | ion? |
| 04:41.26 | nile | I'm on ion =) |
| 04:41.26 | stew | concept10: apt-cache show ion3 |
| 04:41.27 | smacnay | why is python 2.4 installed in "testing" but not the default (seems 2.3 is the linked python). Does 2.4 bork other stuff? |
| 04:41.41 | gravity | I should really give ion another shake, but I just like gnome too much most of the time |
| 04:41.47 | res0nat0r | ion is the best |
| 04:42.04 | peterS | gravity: and likewise scared of ratpoison? |
| 04:42.05 | res0nat0r | i have been using it at work for the last year on my linux box and i get so much more done |
| 04:42.09 | stew | smacnay: hopefully the 2.3->2.4 transition will happen soon, see lists.debian.org/debian-python for details |
| 04:42.13 | gravity | peterS: I'm scared of the ratpoison maintainer |
| 04:42.14 | liable | unstable: um, i said "week", funny seeing as you hit the grammar factoid immediately after i said it... |
| 04:42.21 | peterS | gravity: heh, maybe that's really what I meant |
| 04:42.24 | gravity | heh |
| 04:42.34 | Brenner | how I can configure a virtual ip with iproute? eg. ip addr add 192.168.168.1/24 dev eth0:0 ??? |
| 04:42.50 | smacnay | stew: thanks for the heads up |
| 04:42.51 | peterS | Brenner: what do you mean by 'virtual IP'? |
| 04:42.54 | stew | gravity: there are plenty of good unoficial ratpoison packages from brlink/noshadow/stew |
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| 04:43.17 | concept10 | as soon as I started gnome-theme-manager, my fonts and theme came on without selecting anything |
| 04:43.27 | peterS | Brenner: do you mean a second IP on the same physical interface? the usual way is a 'up' line in /etc/network/interfaces (lines starting with 'up' are executed just after an interface is brought up) |
| 04:43.29 | stew | gravity: though after using both ratpoison and ion for a long time, there are very few reasons to pick ratpoison over ion3 |
| 04:43.42 | nok | liable:Same error |
| 04:43.45 | stew | gravity: i only use it currently on my tv, everything else is ion now |
| 04:43.50 | Brenner | ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.168.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up .... I need make this with iproute |
| 04:43.58 | nile | concept10, perhaps gnome requires that process to be constantly running (which would be lame, but not surprising, really =P) |
| 04:44.19 | Brenner | virtual interface |
| 04:44.21 | HugLeo | No more, bye |
| 04:44.22 | gravity | stew: To be honest I like my mouse :-) |
| 04:44.29 | peterS | Brenner: so like: up ip addr add 192.168.0.8/24 dev eth0 |
| 04:44.29 | unstable | liable: o sorry apparently I need to learn how to !read |
| 04:44.37 | res0nat0r | bah who needs the mouse |
| 04:44.40 | gravity | I grew up on the Mac so it's second nature to me |
| 04:44.41 | nile | ratpoison's the greatest name for a WM =) |
| 04:44.41 | peterS | Brenner: no need for :0 or anything, 'ip' can assign multiple IPs to a single interface |
| 04:44.46 | stew | gravity: i like my new super and hyper keys better, yay bucky bits! |
| 04:44.50 | gravity | hehe |
| 04:44.54 | unstable | liable: And the reason there is so much fluxbox talk is because there was a digg article?http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_To_Install_Fluxbox_in_Ubuntu |
| 04:44.59 | concept10 | nil, with fluxbox, I have 86 running processes (normally) with gnome, around 110 |
| 04:45.04 | gravity | lamest digg ever |
| 04:45.10 | Brenner | ok, I will try |
| 04:45.16 | nile | all diggs are the lamest diggs ever |
| 04:45.17 | nile | every one |
| 04:45.22 | liable | unstable: ah. thought there must have been a connection somewhere. :) |
| 04:45.23 | gravity | Heh, I won't argue that |
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| 04:45.28 | gravity | reddit wins |
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| 04:45.44 | concept10 | Yeah, that article is lame, but I have been wanting to install fluxbox, the article reminded me |
| 04:46.02 | Brenner | yes! it works |
| 04:46.06 | Brenner | thanks again |
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| 04:46.09 | gravity | !gravity |
| 04:46.09 | dpkg | gravity rules, or a botaphile, or someone who has a mighty wang of doom, or the pwm pimp, or it pays to discover, or loves proprietary drivers |
| 04:46.23 | peterS | yay mighty wang of doom |
| 04:46.23 | stew | wang of doom, huh? |
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| 04:46.25 | liable | wang of doom?? |
| 04:46.27 | peterS | I'd forgotten about that one |
| 04:46.30 | res0nat0r | pekwm is the b0mb |
| 04:46.34 | gravity | ion gets major points for being the basis for the next iteration of pwm |
| 04:46.55 | peterS | I'd also forgotten about the discover part, even though I was the one who added it |
| 04:46.58 | gravity | I have no idea how I got the botaphile thing |
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| 04:47.14 | gravity | Heh, well it can be taken off. I'm so ready to take my name off those things |
| 04:47.21 | peterS | heh |
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| 04:47.23 | gravity | I still need it though, at least until after etch |
| 04:47.31 | peterS | wait, discover is still needed in etch? |
| 04:47.39 | peterS | I thought hotplug -> udev took over its job |
| 04:47.43 | gravity | For the xorg scripts, yeah. That's it though |
| 04:47.49 | gravity | So *I* need it and no one else :-\ |
| 04:47.52 | peterS | heh |
| 04:48.01 | gravity | It's a high priority to kill it, but I just haven't had time yet. Too many other things |
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| 04:48.11 | peterS | gravity: hmmm. just for video detection or also for mouse? |
| 04:48.14 | gravity | Like... spending the whole year catching up with upstream |
| 04:48.16 | gravity | peterS: Just video |
| 04:48.19 | gravity | The mouse is mdetect |
| 04:48.23 | nile | res0nat0r, how do you pronounce pekwm? "peck W M" right? |
| 04:48.36 | peterS | gravity: for video, if you just use it for PCI / AGP / SBus, it seems as though that should be easy enough to replace |
| 04:48.46 | stew | you don't pronounce it, you just put it into .xsession |
| 04:48.53 | gravity | peterS: The server can actually probe things pretty well. I just need to make it smarter |
| 04:48.56 | \amethyst | nile: 'pekoom', it's Welsh |
| 04:49.12 | \amethyst | nile: n.b. I'm just making that up |
| 04:49.17 | peterS | not that I've looked at doing so, of course. other things on the plate. Myon is probably wondering why I haven't returned his T&S yet |
| 04:49.24 | gravity | heh |
| 04:49.33 | gravity | I took forever to finish all those stupid questions |
| 04:49.36 | nile | \amethyst, that was pretty damn weird ;) |
| 04:49.36 | gravity | There were so many |
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| 04:49.59 | res0nat0r | nile: i dunno if it is right, but i say "peck-w-m" |
| 04:50.02 | peterS | I don't know that they're stupid, I feel there's value in demonstrating the ability to look these things up and explain them clearly, even if the things themselves aren't always things everyone needs to know |
| 04:50.14 | gravity | I agree |
| 04:50.15 | peterS | but my free time has mostly been taken up by subversion in the past week |
| 04:50.23 | gravity | svn is a way more important task |
| 04:50.26 | stew | yay subversion |
| 04:50.30 | gravity | I think Myon will understand that |
| 04:50.33 | peterS | and that's *still* not settled ... still two FTBFSes to deal with |
| 04:50.39 | c0uin | please anyone can say me what is this error with LVM2: |
| 04:50.41 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.41 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:50.41 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:50.41 | res0nat0r | anyone used git? |
| 04:50.42 | stew | peterS: on which arches? |
| 04:50.44 | gravity | I'm on to the Xgl'ing |
| 04:50.48 | gravity | res0nat0r: Learning it now |
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| 04:50.52 | gravity | I'm still a git newbie though |
| 04:50.55 | peterS | stew: mips and powerpc. I know what causes the mips one, just not quite what I should do about it |
| 04:51.02 | c0uin | please help |
| 04:51.13 | stew | peterS: i can give you a ppc shell if it would help |
| 04:51.14 | peterS | stew: the powerpc one I need to kick upstream and see if they have any ideas, and also test something ruby-related since it might be a debian ruby bug |
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| 04:51.22 | res0nat0r | git is pretty cool |
| 04:51.25 | peterS | stew: could you? that would rock. with unstable? |
| 04:51.30 | stew | peterS: but not until tomorrow |
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| 04:51.45 | gravity | res0nat0r: It's got some cool things, definitely. It's UI leaves something to be desired though. |
| 04:51.51 | peterS | stew: that would still rock. it's frustrating not being able to reproduce the bug directly |
| 04:51.51 | aatcman | Hi |
| 04:51.53 | \amethyst | nile: ah, I checked it out on the site |
| 04:51.54 | gravity | God, I messed up my its |
| 04:52.02 | res0nat0r | i like the: seek <sha1 checkpoint> and it will recover/delete all the files back to that checkpoint and you can have a nice snapshot of your files at that commit |
| 04:52.05 | billybob | is it possible to have a bootable linux usb drive? |
| 04:52.05 | aatcman | quick question on ppc install :o) |
| 04:52.06 | \amethyst | nile: 'pek ve em' |
| 04:52.13 | \amethyst | nile: with the European e |
| 04:52.16 | stew | peterS: if i don't ping you tomorrow, ping me, i need to bed soon |
| 04:52.18 | liable | billybob: yes |
| 04:52.24 | peterS | stew: email peter@p12n.org, you can encrypt things with my gpg key (0x13D0461D) if you want |
| 04:52.25 | karsten | gravity: Its OK, I'm here for you. |
| 04:52.25 | billybob | liable: is it hard? |
| 04:52.31 | gravity | res0nat0r: Pretty much any revision control system can do that... just check it out from that point... |
| 04:52.34 | nile | \amethyst, haha, thanks for that |
| 04:52.35 | peterS | stew: right, I'll ping some time |
| 04:52.36 | gravity | That's the point of a revision control system |
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| 04:52.56 | \amethyst | nile: so 'pek doubleyou em' is an acceptable anglicization |
| 04:53.01 | gravity | karsten: :-) |
| 04:53.07 | liable | billybob: depends, you can install dsl with the click of a button, or you could do it a bit harder.. |
| 04:53.07 | aatcman | I am trying to follow the instructions I found written by icedtrip also refered to as woody |
| 04:53.23 | peterS | billybob: apparently the simple way is to format it as vfat, then install 'mbr' and 'syslinux' on it |
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| 04:53.37 | aatcman | I just need to know how to load from cds made from the .iso file instead of an external scsi drive |
| 04:53.38 | peterS | billybob: there are docs in the debian-installer area, as this is one supported method of installing debian |
| 04:53.44 | \amethyst | nile: one of the developers rhymes it with 'requiem' |
| 04:53.50 | res0nat0r | best pekwm theme ever: http://hewphoria.com/?p=submission&type=theme&id=134 |
| 04:53.55 | billybob | i've already got it on a disk though |
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| 04:54.05 | billybob | would it be easy to convert it to a bootable external? |
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| 04:54.33 | res0nat0r | gravity: yeah i guess you're right |
| 04:54.54 | peterS | yeah but the git command list is so freaking huge it's no wonder |
| 04:54.58 | gravity | heh |
| 04:55.06 | gravity | It's like tla, only well documented |
| 04:55.07 | res0nat0r | yeah it is pretty confusing |
| 04:55.15 | res0nat0r | cogito is a decent overlay |
| 04:55.25 | peterS | what is the relationship between git and cg these days? |
| 04:55.34 | peterS | is git usable standalone or is cg still the best way to manage it? |
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| 04:55.58 | gravity | peterS: git took in a lot of the commands, so it's usable now |
| 04:56.00 | res0nat0r | i think the official word is something like git is the "guts" and cogito is the "porcelin" or "frontend" |
| 04:56.04 | unstable | Where can I get a free shell with screen/irssi so I can idle in here? even when my laptop is off |
| 04:56.06 | gravity | peterS: But it's still got a zillion commands |
| 04:56.18 | unstable | Anyone know of any, or are they all gone because of the script kiddies |
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| 04:56.29 | peterS | res0nat0r: yeah I know that used to be true, but last I looked at either of them seriously was about 11 months ago - presumably a *lot* has changed since then, given the pace of development back at that time |
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| 04:57.00 | gravity | Linus says that git has all the porcelain now. If you agree with him... I dunno |
| 04:57.45 | res0nat0r | peterS: yeah i was on the mailing list for a while because i really thought the app was interesting, but i havent paid attn in the last few months either. they do keep changing alot of the syntax/interface etc..so it is hard to keep up. but i bet it will be a sweet app here after a good while |
| 04:58.09 | res0nat0r | so i could be way off base right now too |
| 04:58.15 | peterS | res0nat0r: I don't know how anyone *could* keep up, judging from the list traffic in about May 2005. un-***ing-believable. |
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| 04:58.44 | res0nat0r | heheh |
| 04:59.01 | res0nat0r | thats what you get when you have Linus attaching his name to something |
| 04:59.24 | res0nat0r | not so much attaching his name, but supporting/developing |
| 04:59.33 | gravity | Ah, not git seek. git reset |
| 04:59.34 | peterS | quite so. only not just that, apparently he really did have some interesting ideas from which to build such a system, some of which may have even been original |
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| 04:59.50 | gravity | hrm, no that's not it. THat's different |
| 04:59.52 | peterS | gravity: so that's like cvs|svn update -rfoo? |
| 05:00.13 | peterS | (move forward or backward to point 'foo' in time) |
| 05:00.28 | gravity | Sorta, but it's not clear |
| 05:00.38 | nile | dear god, is pekwm not in apt? |
| 05:00.40 | gravity | There should be a better way to do it |
| 05:00.42 | res0nat0r | yeah i think it will be very slick and efficient/quick when they get done since their focus is something large with many branches like the linux source tree(s) |
| 05:00.53 | res0nat0r | nile: yeah i dont think so =/ |
| 05:00.55 | peterS | nile: what we need in debian is a few more window managers. there's so few to choose from |
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| 05:01.01 | res0nat0r | nile: wajig unofficial pekwm |
| 05:01.04 | liable | hehe |
| 05:01.18 | unstable | gravity: You know of any free services like this? |
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| 05:01.44 | gravity | Ah, the porcelain commands in the git manpage is useful. There we go |
| 05:01.48 | nile | man, that's kind of depressing |
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| 05:01.52 | gravity | unstable: What? |
| 05:01.56 | concept10 | Any bitchx users here? I want to know if its possible to have more than one channel open at once |
| 05:02.10 | res0nat0r | concept10: sure it is |
| 05:02.11 | plbgnr | hello, can anybody help with ati card? I have ati rage 128 agp card and want to use it for grabbing video, but xawtv yells that 'no video grabber device available' |
| 05:02.23 | c0uin | pleeease help me |
| 05:02.25 | concept10 | res0nat0r what do you do? |
| 05:02.36 | res0nat0r | im not using it right now, but let me think... |
| 05:02.49 | res0nat0r | try /wj #channel |
| 05:02.55 | c0uin | device-mapper ioctl cmd 9 failed: Argument invalide error with lvcreate in LVM |
| 05:03.01 | res0nat0r | i cant remember if that is a built in alias or one i had to make |
| 05:03.05 | peterS | Stevie: it's what the linux kernel uses for revision control, instead of cvs / svn / bzr / monotone / darcs / hg / tla |
| 05:03.09 | res0nat0r | let me knwo |
| 05:03.10 | res0nat0r | know |
| 05:03.21 | c0uin | and dont know how to resolve |
| 05:03.40 | \amethyst | Stevie: git's a completely different model from svn |
| 05:03.41 | ouznext | c0uin: vg activated ? |
| 05:03.47 | gravity | hrm, there's git-revert but it only works for one revision at a time. I guess the old pull the diff between versions and merge it back in is the way to go, a la svn |
| 05:03.55 | c0uin | yes |
| 05:04.06 | peterS | Stevie: me too. I tried git when it was young and new (it was started in March 2005, I tried it in about May) and got quickly annoyed with the lack of UI polish |
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| 05:04.09 | \amethyst | Stevie: it's more like svk |
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| 05:04.15 | concept10 | res0nat0r i found a decent page that explains it. The main bitchx page doesnt have any good docs |
| 05:04.15 | Stevie | ah, ok |
| 05:04.30 | nile | concept10, if you aren't attached to bitchx, irssi is a pretty simple and intuitive client ;) |
| 05:04.37 | peterS | Stevie: now I'm kind of committed to svn, at least to some degree, as I help maintain it (: |
| 05:04.44 | res0nat0r | let me find the page with the window link i used, b/c i like one channel per window and then i used ctrl-x to scroll between em |
| 05:05.20 | res0nat0r | tthis is it: http://faq.bitchx.org/view_faq.php?tag=How+can+I+make+BitchX+create+a+new+window+for+each+channel+I+join%3F |
| 05:05.22 | concept10 | res0nat0r all you do is join and ctrl x |
| 05:05.26 | c0uin | [root@debian:/]$ vgcreate testvg /dev/hda5 /dev/hda6 |
| 05:05.26 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.43 | res0nat0r | concept10: check out that link that is what i used |
| 05:05.46 | c0uin | well i think is actived whan its create ? |
| 05:05.54 | peterS | c0uin: probably not, try vgchange -ay |
| 05:06.35 | concept10 | res0nat0r thanks |
| 05:06.41 | c0uin | no already error |
| 05:06.44 | res0nat0r | concept10: no problem.. =] |
| 05:06.54 | peterS | c0uin: so what is failing exactly? does 'vgdisplay' display it? |
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| 05:07.05 | c0uin | yes |
| 05:07.17 | c0uin | but whan i try to create lv i have error |
| 05:07.25 | res0nat0r | c0uin: what does pvdisplay show? |
| 05:07.36 | levander | What does it mean when you 'dpkg -S' a file in /etc, that you know you didn't put out there and it says "dpkg: file not found"? I *know* a deb package must have put that file out there. |
| 05:07.39 | res0nat0r | or pvs |
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| 05:07.50 | levander | It's /etc/mailcap if anybody knows what package put that out there. |
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| 05:08.17 | c0uin | http://pastebin.com/645501 |
| 05:08.17 | peterS | levander: quite often packages create files in /etc because shipping them directly doesn't allow them to customise the file at install time according to local system conditions or admin answers to questions |
| 05:08.29 | c0uin | can u look here ? |
| 05:08.40 | peterS | levander: you can grep through /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.config for the file; that'll often work |
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| 05:09.28 | c0uin | vgdisplay here: http://pastebin.com/645502 |
| 05:09.46 | levander | peterS: thanks for the expanation, and I grepped /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.config for mailcap, but got nothing ;( |
| 05:09.48 | res0nat0r | it looks like all of your space on hda5 is already used and you only have 604 extents left on hda6 |
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| 05:10.07 | peterS | levander: oh, you can also grep *.postinst |
| 05:10.17 | ouznext | c0uin: could you post a vgdisplay -v <vg> ? |
| 05:10.25 | peterS | c0uin: so that shows 2.4 GB unallocated. that means you managed to allocate the other 58 GB somehow |
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| 05:10.35 | gravity | I have to admit though, I am very pleased to see things like git-cherry-pick |
| 05:10.40 | res0nat0r | yes |
| 05:10.42 | billybob | is there a way to make my mobo boot from usb? |
| 05:10.43 | gravity | It makes it very appealing in contrast to svn |
| 05:11.10 | peterS | gravity: the contrib script svnmerge.py, which I keep planning to ship in debian subversion-tools one of these days, looks very promising in that regard |
| 05:11.12 | c0uin | df -h: http://pastebin.com/645504 |
| 05:11.22 | gravity | Cool |
| 05:11.31 | levander | peterS: thanks, it must get generated by the run-mailcap program in the mime-support package |
| 05:11.42 | peterS | gravity: it's seen a ton of upstream activity in the past month, and is probably serving as a prototype for official "proper merge support" in the svn core, which will take a lot longer |
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| 05:11.49 | konfuzed | hey has any one tried this project from source forge http://www.openvidia.org/screenshots.shtml i wonder if they could improve general use of single nvidia machines |
| 05:11.50 | gravity | Interesting |
| 05:12.02 | c0uin | vgdisplay -v : http://pastebin.com/645506 |
| 05:12.06 | gravity | It really will be just svn and git left standing I think |
| 05:12.12 | res0nat0r | well i think your probelm is that you are running vgcreate on hda5 and 6 but they are already members of the testvg group if i am reading righrt |
| 05:12.14 | res0nat0r | right |
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| 05:12.44 | peterS | gravity: it *does* constrain you to merging stuff within a single repository, just like the rest of svn. i.e., it doesn't break the centralised model. |
| 05:13.01 | peterS | you don't think hg and bzr will compete, long-term? |
| 05:13.28 | gravity | I don't really know. hg is good, but I don't think it's got the mindshare. And outside the canonical realm, bzr doesn't seem that popular either |
| 05:14.02 | peterS | darcs has a small but vocal contingent. I guess every system has a small but vocal contingent though (: |
| 05:14.07 | gravity | Yeah |
| 05:14.28 | c0uin | humm dont understand res0nat0r |
| 05:14.28 | peterS | what with sourceforge officially supporting subversion now, that makes some difference in mindshare |
| 05:14.31 | res0nat0r | we are still kicking oldskool cvs wh ere i work |
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| 05:14.55 | res0nat0r | c0uin: so what is the problem? it looks like the two partitions you are referencing are already under lvm control..? |
| 05:15.23 | gravity | Yeah, svn is going to keep growing |
| 05:15.25 | jm_ | some feller at work told me it takes 1h to sync or pull (not quite sure of the details) DragonFly, but about 2m with hg |
| 05:15.26 | peterS | one aspect of svn that people might find attractive (well, git too) is proven scalability. the gcc and apache projects are into hundreds of thousands of revisions, so people are testing scalability issues in the real world all the time |
| 05:15.59 | peterS | and fixing scalability issues too (both apache and gcc switched to svn just a few months ago, so they're still submitting patches on occasion for these things) |
| 05:16.04 | c0uin | http://pastebin.com/645510 |
| 05:16.05 | gravity | Right. |
| 05:16.08 | ouznext | c0uin: anything weird in dmesg output ? |
| 05:16.14 | res0nat0r | c0uin: checking |
| 05:16.23 | c0uin | look the error its not normal |
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| 05:17.49 | c0uin | ok i begin again |
| 05:17.58 | c0uin | i delete all |
| 05:18.11 | ouznext | but testlv already exists, doesnt'it ? (from http://pastebin.com/645506). anyway, try lvcreate -L 1 instead of -L 60GB, just in case... |
| 05:18.24 | res0nat0r | hum |
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| 05:18.38 | c0uin | give me one minute i will paste all |
| 05:18.42 | ouznext | ok |
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| 05:19.06 | rafael | does anyone know about a replacement for mpg123 with a free software license? |
| 05:19.21 | SrBUG | anyway have one suggestion or documentation about my question ? Thank your for any help...(: supermount: Unknown symbol IS_NODIRATIME, supermount: Unknown symbol IS_NOATIME, supermount: Unknown symbol update_atime). |
| 05:19.30 | peterS | rafael: mpg321 is in debian |
| 05:19.32 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 05:19.32 | dpkg | <orangey_> has *nobody* here tried to dock a KDE icon into gnome? <orangey_> man. This is totally a karma thing. I didn't help somebody the other day when I knew the answer just because I wanted to watch a simpsons episode instead. <orangey_> I thought buddha would understand. |
| 05:19.42 | tarzeau | rafael: madplay and opencubicplayer |
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| 05:20.05 | peterS | ha, I think I added that quote |
| 05:20.10 | scarynetworkguy | !qotd11 |
| 05:20.10 | dpkg | <scarynetworkguy> yea any book that has the phrase 'Pig-fisting' in it is gonna be good |
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| 05:20.14 | leighm | greets |
| 05:20.19 | leighm | debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso <-- is that sarge? |
| 05:20.21 | rafael | tarzeau: thanks, do you like one better than the other? |
| 05:20.29 | peterS | levander: yes, though not the latest sarge |
| 05:20.34 | peterS | leighm: ^^^ |
| 05:20.40 | tarzeau | rafael: i love opencubicplayer |
| 05:20.49 | peterS | leighm: it's close enough, though, you can pull updates (mainly security updates) off the net after installation |
| 05:20.54 | tarzeau | http://io.debian.net/~tar/misc/ocp.png |
| 05:21.08 | rafael | ok, thnaks |
| 05:21.17 | leighm | tryin to find latest sarge |
| 05:21.19 | chealer | peterS: it's the first quote I remember happening :) |
| 05:21.24 | leighm | http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian-cd/images/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/ ? |
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| 05:21.28 | res0nat0r | tarz: what is that? it looks like a mod tracker? |
| 05:21.31 | c0uin | ok look all my command |
| 05:21.34 | c0uin | http://pastebin.com/645516 |
| 05:21.34 | chealer | peterS: that's recent, isn't it? |
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| 05:21.52 | peterS | leighm: latest is ... 3.1r2 or so, unless 3.1r3 came out while I wasn't looking |
| 05:22.06 | leighm | hmm pacific.net.au not updated then |
| 05:22.12 | peterS | leighm: the differences are very small, just a handful of security and other really important updates |
| 05:22.21 | chealer | peterS: it's still 3.1r1[a] |
| 05:22.22 | tarzeau | res0nat0r: it's a music player |
| 05:22.29 | peterS | chealer: oh? guess I was confused then |
| 05:22.36 | res0nat0r | tarz: cool |
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| 05:22.42 | tarzeau | res0nat0r: it does modules, sids, wave, audio CD, midi, ogg and mp3 |
| 05:22.43 | peterS | I thought 3.1r3 was the one pending when Joey quit the job as SRM |
| 05:22.46 | chealer | peterS: as always :-P |
| 05:22.51 | peterS | yes (: |
| 05:22.57 | res0nat0r | tarz: all command line? what program is that? |
| 05:23.08 | chealer | peterS: nah, hopefully 3.1r2 will come soon |
| 05:23.23 | res0nat0r | c0uin: just as a guess are your partitions labled as type lvm? "fdisk -l" will show that |
| 05:23.24 | tarzeau | res0nat0r: it has a very nice userinterface .. |
| 05:23.28 | leighm | peterS, cool |
| 05:23.53 | leighm | peterS, know if sarge will allow me to setup a lwm2 configuration at boot ? |
| 05:24.01 | peterS | leighm: it's supposed to be supported. I have not tried it. I _think_ you can even have lvm2 for your root filesystem. |
| 05:24.44 | leighm | wow nice |
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| 05:24.55 | peterS | that reminds me, I need to do exactly that on my live box, while rearranging some partitions - if I do it right I won't lose any data or the ability to boot during my transition |
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| 05:25.18 | c0uin | res0nat0r look but i dont think: http://pastebin.com/645519 |
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| 05:25.37 | peterS | hmmm, how much does a 120 GB disk cost these days? |
| 05:25.50 | tarzeau | peterS: about 100 swiss francs |
| 05:25.50 | peterS | I'm kind of overdue for raid 1 |
| 05:25.55 | jm_ | probably $50 or less in USA |
| 05:25.56 | billybob | is there a cd which makes me boot from usb? my bios sucks durk for quarters |
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| 05:26.37 | justin420 | Hi all. Anyone help me with editing my fstab to add multiple partitions on a Maxtor 300GB NAS? The shares I want to mount are also user/password protected. All I have so far in my fstab is *insert ip addy here*:*insert share here* then it goes /mnt/*insert folder here* ? |
| 05:26.46 | peterS | billybob: if the bios can't boot USB, a boot loader won't help much. handling that from a boot loader, without the bios helping, would be really hard |
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| 05:27.23 | billybob | ok somebody disagree with peterS lol |
| 05:27.32 | res0nat0r | c0uin: i think that could be the problem, type "fdisk /dev/hda and fdisk /dev/hdb" and use the "t" option (i think) there is an option to change your partition type to "linux lvm", use that. i think that could be the problem |
| 05:27.32 | billybob | i define sony as a WHORE |
| 05:27.44 | errno_signal | hi guys, is there an ncurses-frontend to lpq? |
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| 05:28.00 | tarzeau | errno_signal: yeah i've done one |
| 05:28.03 | tarzeau | errno_signal: using iselect |
| 05:28.45 | res0nat0r | c0uin: use "?" if i am wrong, i am not booted into my linux box right now so i cant check |
| 05:29.17 | res0nat0r | c0uin: and make sure you write out your new partition table with "w", but make sure you dont screw it up or you can hose your hard drives =] ... also you can use "partprobe" to reread your active hd w/o rebooting |
| 05:29.42 | errno_signal | tarzeau: oh, cool |
| 05:29.58 | tarzeau | errno_signal: now if i only could find it. looking still.. |
| 05:30.17 | c0uin | fdisk -t /dev/hda5 |
| 05:30.17 | c0uin | fdisk: option invalide -- t |
| 05:31.20 | errno_signal | tarzeau: yeah mate, that'd be fantastic |
| 05:32.13 | tarzeau | errno_signal: i can't find it, but check out iselect, it's very easy |
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| 05:34.05 | errno_signal | tarzeau: will do |
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| 05:38.46 | billybob | peterS: i found a usb driver for dos... think i could use that to call linux's boot? |
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| 05:39.16 | jm_ | billybob: you can use loadlin if you have DOS |
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| 05:39.51 | peterS | billybob: yeah, what jm_ said. load the USB mass storage driver you found for DOS, then you'll get a drive letter for your USB disk, and you can use loadlin.exe with files on that drive. |
| 05:40.48 | peterS | billybob: this does involve first loading ms-dos or perhaps freedos, if the usb driver works with freedos |
| 05:40.48 | billybob | how would i call it? |
| 05:42.22 | peterS | loading the driver, I have no idea, probably a devicehigh= line in config.sys |
| 05:42.49 | tarzeau | someone's dancing salsa? |
| 05:43.13 | billybob | no loading liinux |
| 05:43.37 | billybob | like do u just type loadlin [whatever the usb drive is]? |
| 05:43.49 | peterS | billybob: using loadlin.exe, but I haven't used loadlin for probably at least 7 years, so I can't recall |
| 05:43.59 | Azar | want to learn, tarzeau? |
| 05:44.16 | billybob | hmmm alright. |
| 05:44.16 | \amethyst | billybob: I think you have to give the filename of your bzImage |
| 05:44.20 | tarzeau | Azar: well yes, there's that girl that likes it, and if i want to go out with her... |
| 05:44.20 | peterS | billybob: you have to tell it the filename of a kernel to load. that kernel can be on your usb disk. etc. |
| 05:44.27 | jm_ | older versions of Debian used to have install.bat for loadlin usage, not sure why it's not there anymore |
| 05:44.36 | tarzeau | Azar: http://salsatime.meinbild.ch/ |
| 05:44.38 | billybob | hmmm |
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| 05:44.41 | jm_ | and initrd, it's very similar to lilo/GRUB |
| 05:44.44 | \amethyst | billybob: I haven't used it in even longer than peterS |
| 05:44.54 | Azar | oh... go to some latin club or restaurant |
| 05:44.56 | SlayerXP | morning ladies and gents |
| 05:45.02 | \amethyst | that's not grammatical, but foo |
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| 05:45.03 | peterS | morning, slayer |
| 05:45.07 | jm_ | SlayerXP: mornin' |
| 05:45.25 | billybob | i've been tyring to get a dual boot working for 2 days now and because sony sucks i pretty much can't do it |
| 05:45.37 | billybob | so i'm looking at my next option |
| 05:45.41 | billybob | which is this |
| 05:46.00 | SlayerXP | it's going to be a hot day today |
| 05:46.01 | tarzeau | Azar: i guess i'll take a few lessons i disgrace myself |
| 05:46.06 | peterS | billybob: oh, note that if you have Windows NT (or 2000 or XP or 2003), loadlin won't work. it needs real MS-DOS, like win95 / win98 / winME |
| 05:46.13 | SlayerXP | 7.45am and we're already above 0c |
| 05:46.25 | Azar | tarzeau I grew up in LA with latinos, I don't have a problem with that |
| 05:46.26 | billybob | yeah bootable cd |
| 05:46.42 | tarzeau | Azar: got a photo? |
| 05:46.50 | peterS | tarzeau: I could teach you the basics if I saw you in person, but it's a little harder over IRC (: |
| 05:46.50 | tarzeau | Azar: i'm in switzerland here... |
| 05:46.52 | Azar | :) only for girls |
| 05:46.52 | billybob | I AM SO PISSED!!! SONY JUST TRIED TO INSTALL WINDOWS ONTO MY FUCKING IPOD!!! |
| 05:47.01 | tarzeau | peterS: i got MSN and a webcam |
| 05:47.01 | billybob | WHAT THE FUCK!!! ALL MY MUSIC IS GONE!!! |
| 05:47.05 | billybob | ANGETR AND FUCKING HATE!!! |
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| 05:47.08 | tarzeau | Azar: haha |
| 05:47.13 | Quiznos | morning folks |
| 05:47.15 | Azar | tarzeau I thought you are somewhere in ch |
| 05:47.18 | Quiznos | who uses gpm's -V option? i don't grok the mangpage's description of it |
| 05:47.21 | tarzeau | Azar: i am |
| 05:47.22 | \amethyst | billybob: start a class-action lawsuit :) |
| 05:47.29 | peterS | Azar: eh? ch == switzerland |
| 05:47.34 | tarzeau | Azar: ch is confederation helvetica (teh switzerland) |
| 05:47.35 | Quiznos | .oO legal! |
| 05:47.42 | tarzeau | peterS: deal? |
| 05:47.52 | Azar | oh I thought is czech republic |
| 05:47.53 | tarzeau | peterS: got also some salsa mp3 to start with? |
| 05:47.54 | billybob | lol i like you ridea |
| 05:47.58 | peterS | Azar: that's .cs |
| 05:48.00 | tarzeau | Azar: that'd be cz |
| 05:48.04 | jm_ | Quiznos: sounds pretty straight forward |
| 05:48.05 | tarzeau | Azar: and china is .cn |
| 05:48.06 | Azar | ah |
| 05:48.10 | \amethyst | .cs was Czechoslovaki |
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| 05:48.10 | Quiznos | nop |
| 05:48.11 | \amethyst | a |
| 05:48.13 | peterS | oh right, cs is the czech language, cz is the country, sorry |
| 05:48.16 | billybob | that is soooo messed up |
| 05:48.33 | \amethyst | they used cs for Czech? classic |
| 05:48.34 | peterS | tarzeau: I don't have a webcam or anything that would work as one, no |
| 05:48.39 | tarzeau | peterS: i want to learn the basics please! |
| 05:48.40 | Azar | tarzeau order Celia Gonzales and Oscar de Leon CDs |
| 05:48.51 | Quiznos | jm_, the options takes two args apparently but when i exec it, gpm bombs |
| 05:48.53 | errno_signal | tarzeau: i wouldn't know where to start :( |
| 05:49.00 | tarzeau | Azar: can you send a few mp3? |
| 05:49.07 | jm_ | Quiznos: no, just one ;) |
| 05:49.11 | Quiznos | nop |
| 05:49.13 | tarzeau | errno_signal: try ls | iselect, then man iselect |
| 05:49.20 | errno_signal | tarzeau: basically, i want to monitor lpq via a: while true; do clear; lpq -a | set-stuff-for-my-name; sleep 1; done |
| 05:49.20 | jm_ | yes |
| 05:49.21 | Azar | tarzeau: I never had mp3s.. |
| 05:49.27 | Quiznos | the opt is -V[arg1 arg2] |
| 05:49.30 | Quiznos | and that bombs |
| 05:49.30 | tarzeau | errno_signal: then you want (echo menu; echo menu item2; lpq -a) | iselect |
| 05:49.42 | errno_signal | ah |
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| 05:49.45 | billybob | i define PISSED |
| 05:49.50 | positrix | how do I downgrade testing --> sarge? |
| 05:49.52 | errno_signal | tarzeau: how complex was your script? |
| 05:49.56 | tarzeau | positrix: you can't |
| 05:50.01 | Azar | positrix: no way back |
| 05:50.04 | tarzeau | errno_signal: pretty easy, about 20 or 30 lines |
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| 05:50.17 | tarzeau | errno_signal: it had a few menu entries and the print que |
| 05:50.26 | tarzeau | errno_signal: i was able to list the current que, delete jobs |
| 05:50.32 | jm_ | no, the man page even gives examples: `-V-1' |
| 05:50.37 | errno_signal | tarzeau: oh, that's nice |
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| 05:50.46 | tarzeau | errno_signal: indeed. not that i use printers... |
| 05:50.56 | tarzeau | errno_signal: but some people just mess our printers up, and we've got more than 100 |
| 05:51.23 | Quiznos | jm_ i did that and it still bombs |
| 05:51.28 | tarzeau | errno_signal: and i hate all printers without real internet or postscript |
| 05:51.34 | Quiznos | jm_ that's what i cant figer out |
| 05:51.36 | jm_ | Quiznos: WFM |
| 05:51.39 | errno_signal | tarzeau: yeah |
| 05:52.07 | Quiznos | wfm? |
| 05:52.12 | errno_signal | tarzeau: I saw some really nice laser/ps/network-card'd printers last week |
| 05:52.15 | jm_ | !wfm |
| 05:52.16 | dpkg | it has been said that wfm is Works for Me, or some strange corruption of hopwfm, or what fucking manual? |
| 05:52.16 | SlayerXP | tarzeau: one place I worked had a huge Xerox multifunction printer. I was very surprised to find out that it was running a mail server. I never found out why. |
| 05:52.17 | errno_signal | cost a fair bit, though |
| 05:52.37 | Quiznos | jm_ dont give up |
| 05:52.40 | peterS | SlayerXP: heh, you email your print jobs? I think I've heard of such a thing |
| 05:52.52 | SlayerXP | peterS: I have no idea :) |
| 05:53.02 | tarzeau | SlayerXP: we've got printers that have nfs servers :) |
| 05:53.04 | peterS | or maybe you email your faxes |
| 05:53.25 | tarzeau | SlayerXP: there's also copy machines that can send scans by email |
| 05:53.44 | SlayerXP | it was big, ugly, and didn't work with CUPS |
| 05:53.48 | peterS | or maybe it's running debian inside and the engineers couldn't figure out how to circumvent the dependency on mail-transfer-agent |
| 05:54.10 | jm_ | Quiznos: anyway, the person that can help you the best with gpm is here :) |
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| 05:54.12 | errno_signal | tarzeau: did you host that script anywhere, by any chance? (= |
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| 05:54.31 | Quiznos | oops, dont hit that key |
| 05:54.48 | Quiznos | infi_ i want it to load ;) |
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| 05:55.42 | tarzeau | errno_signal: i had it, but it got removed, i don't have it anymore |
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| 05:56.04 | peterS | Quiznos: the syntax is -V1 or -V3 or just -V |
| 05:56.15 | peterS | Quiznos: 'verbosity increment' refers to a single number, I know it's a bit confusing |
| 05:56.26 | JasonBox | Is there some way to influence `dpkg-buildpackage` so I can run `make -j10` at build time or is there some other way to set a concurrency option at build time? |
| 05:56.48 | jm_ | quix;even the source code confirms this, it's only one argument |
| 05:56.49 | errno_signal | tarzeau: alright, was worth a shot |
| 05:56.50 | Quiznos | peterS ty |
| 05:56.52 | peterS | JasonBox: no way to do that in general. in Subversion, since I implemented this a couple weeks ago, you can type 'DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=-j10 dpkg-buildpackage' |
| 05:56.57 | jm_ | Quiznos: even the source code confirms this, it's only one argument |
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| 05:57.08 | Quiznos | musta been writ by non-ascii geek |
| 05:57.16 | peterS | JasonBox: a guy with a 4-CPU box wanted to be able to do this so I hacked it in. but it's specific to the one package I did this for. |
| 05:57.17 | Quiznos | jm_ okidoke |
| 05:57.17 | JasonBox | peterS: D'oh |
| 05:57.25 | Quiznos | thanks all |
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| 05:57.42 | JasonBox | peterS: Is there some nasty hack I can perform on cdbs for example? |
| 05:57.44 | peterS | JasonBox: you *may* be able to pass it in via MAKEFLAGS=-j10, but I don't think that always works. I haven't tried. |
| 05:58.03 | JasonBox | MAKEFLAGS being an environment variable? |
| 05:58.11 | peterS | yes |
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| 05:58.16 | peterS | (DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS is also one) |
| 05:58.26 | peterS | JasonBox: supporting it directly in the package means that I can *not* use -j in places where it doesn't work. which happens to be true of part of the subversion build (: |
| 05:58.27 | JasonBox | I'm using pbuilder, which uses dpkg-buildpackage, though |
| 05:59.11 | peterS | JasonBox: right, between pbuilder and debuild and dpkg-buildpackage, I don't know whether they all pass MAKEFLAGS down into their children |
| 05:59.30 | JasonBox | I've been trying to figure out a way to automate tossing the source code to distcc hosts |
| 05:59.50 | JasonBox | I think pbuilder might eat environment variables at some point... |
| 06:00.19 | peterS | JasonBox: you should also be aware that subversion is hardly the only package in the world where certain 'make' targets may not be -j-safe. so if this is something you're automating, even if you succeed, expect a few random failures here and there |
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| 06:00.48 | JasonBox | That's okay -- it's certainly a ymmv thing |
| 06:00.52 | peterS | right |
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| 06:01.15 | JasonBox | But I suspect quite a few packages would benefit, and I'm only doing one at a time as I backport stuff |
| 06:01.16 | peterS | anyway, I would advocate for supporting DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=-j everywhere, but I think it'd be an uphill battle, most maintainers wouldn't care enough |
| 06:01.27 | JasonBox | But sometimes the packages are kind of big and time some time to compile |
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| 06:01.45 | Azar | bah I give up on mp3s, the smp.dll will never play in linux haha |
| 06:01.47 | peterS | unlike DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip, it's not something people can support automatically just by using debhelper (: it takes actual effort to make it work |
| 06:01.50 | JasonBox | Yeah, I found a thread from like 2003 about supporting this -- I see it never happened ;) |
| 06:02.00 | SJr|nx | Hey Jason, your last name isn't Boxman is it? |
| 06:02.15 | JasonBox | Could be, who might you be? |
| 06:02.23 | Azar | your girl's brother? |
| 06:02.30 | JasonBox | Unlikely |
| 06:02.31 | SJr|nx | lol |
| 06:02.34 | peterS | probably her dad |
| 06:02.36 | SJr|nx | Steve off the Dirvish List |
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| 06:02.57 | Quiznos | rehi |
| 06:03.18 | Quiznos | with gpm, how do i activate the wheel of a ps2-compat moose? |
| 06:03.22 | SJr|nx | ah it isyou |
| 06:03.28 | Quiznos | it's imps2 also |
| 06:03.57 | jm_ | activate the wheel for what? |
| 06:04.08 | JasonBox | Dirvish list? |
| 06:04.10 | JasonBox | Lovely! |
| 06:04.12 | Quiznos | what what? |
| 06:04.14 | Quiznos | gpm |
| 06:04.14 | SJr|nx | yes |
| 06:04.24 | JasonBox | Yep, it's me |
| 06:04.30 | SJr|nx | Yeah I checked your IP Address :P |
| 06:04.33 | SJr|nx | I shouldn't have asked your name :P |
| 06:04.35 | jm_ | gpm doesn't use wheel for anything |
| 06:04.37 | SJr|nx | that would have been creepy |
| 06:04.41 | jm_ | no idea what you're trying to achieve |
| 06:04.43 | Quiznos | bummer |
| 06:04.45 | Quiznos | ty |
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| 06:04.48 | JasonBox | It was mildly amusing, but it wouldn't be the first time |
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| 06:06.32 | peterS | jm_: it passes it along to the repeater and I *think* it also passes it to apps that care about it, which AFAIK don't exist |
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| 06:07.48 | jm_ | peterS: yeah, it might matter if you're using repeater (does links use it? it does in xterm) |
| 06:08.04 | peterS | JasonBox: pbuilder has a /etc/pbuilderrc, you know |
| 06:08.51 | JasonBox | It does, but there isn't any obvious way to inject environment variables |
| 06:09.05 | JasonBox | It seems to use `su` which gives it a clean environment |
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| 06:10.20 | peterS | oh, true |
| 06:12.41 | peterS | JasonBox: hmmm, from my quick test, su and su -p don't touch arbitrary variables. FOO=bar su myuser -c 'echo $FOO' |
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| 06:12.46 | peterS | (pbuilder uses su -p) |
| 06:12.59 | JasonBox | Indeed |
| 06:13.14 | takirub- | robert |
| 06:13.15 | JasonBox | MAKEFLAGS=foo pbuilder build ? |
| 06:13.44 | takirub- | robert bro |
| 06:13.45 | peterS | try it. you can test with '@echo MAKEFLAGS = "$(MAKEFLAGS)"' somewhere in debian/rules |
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| 06:13.52 | HPS`Fresh | à êà ìíå çàáàáàçàòü íå äåáå udev? âðîäå ïàêåò áûë êàêîé-òî |
| 06:13.57 | takirub- | r3v|d robert bro |
| 06:14.10 | simonrvn | try english |
| 06:14.19 | peterS | takirub-: you can go away now |
| 06:14.21 | HPS`Fresh | íàøåë : |
| 06:14.24 | \amethyst | or at least utf-8 |
| 06:14.45 | simonrvn | yeh, drop the koi-*, utf-8 would be fine ;) |
| 06:15.17 | JasonBox | peterS: Neat idea |
| 06:15.28 | JasonBox | I'm fairly new to doing much with GNU Make |
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| 06:17.36 | JasonBox | Running `env` from a hook.d after running this doesn't show the variable, though... MAKEFLAGS='make -j10' sudo pbuilder |
| 06:18.00 | peterS | JasonBox: MAKEFLAGS=-j10, not the 'make' part |
| 06:18.17 | peterS | JasonBox: it could be that gnu make throws away MAKEFLAGS if it doesn't make sense, or something |
| 06:18.33 | JasonBox | Naw, it's better, just running foobar=foo sudo bash -c 'env' shows I have a cleaned env |
| 06:18.48 | peterS | sudo is doing the cleaning, I guess |
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| 06:19.00 | JasonBox | It looks the same as what `env` gives me inside the pbuilder chroot, too, heh |
| 06:19.05 | simonrvn | yeh it is. was patched to do so |
| 06:19.10 | peterS | if you have fakeroot installed in the chroot, I think pbuilder will use that |
| 06:19.21 | JasonBox | It does, yes |
| 06:19.28 | JasonBox | But I'm using sudo so I can run mostly as me heh |
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| 06:19.56 | peterS | fakeroot runs even more as you than sudo does |
| 06:20.05 | simonrvn | yup |
| 06:20.25 | peterS | oh, or did you mean you are using sudo to *invoke* pbuilder |
| 06:20.27 | JasonBox | I'd just gotten used to doing it as sudo, as that worked ;) |
| 06:20.31 | JasonBox | Yeah, I am |
| 06:20.37 | JasonBox | I'm going to try it just as root |
| 06:20.38 | Hohlraum | just had something not cool happen with a kernel upgrade is there a way to past the aptitude -V dist-upgrade output? |
| 06:20.40 | peterS | I thought you meant for pbuilder to use inside the chroot |
| 06:20.49 | simonrvn | !paster |
| 06:20.49 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 06:20.52 | JasonBox | I have pbuilder using the default fakeroot |
| 06:20.56 | peterS | good, good |
| 06:21.12 | JasonBox | Okay, that was my bad |
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| 06:21.18 | JasonBox | If I don't use sudo, foo=bar is passed |
| 06:21.25 | JasonBox | So now I can try MAKEFLAGS |
| 06:22.12 | JasonBox | oops, I'd be screwing up the flags part too |
| 06:22.31 | JasonBox | Been so long since I've done a MAKEFLAGS anything |
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| 06:23.57 | Hohlraum | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2320 can you guys take a look? |
| 06:24.10 | nanotube | ssh takes ages: debug1: Connecting to service [192.168.2.30] port 22. |
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| 06:25.06 | JasonBox | peterS: Okay, that does work for this particular package, although I screwed up my distcc somehow and it's changing it to -j1 explicitly for me ;) |
| 06:25.19 | peterS | nanotube: often this means you're firewalled off from the other system and the firewall is dropping your packets instead of returning a permission denied packet (RST) |
| 06:25.22 | JasonBox | I thought it might be something fairly obvious... |
| 06:25.49 | peterS | heh |
| 06:26.00 | peterS | I have no distcc experience, you're on your own |
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| 06:27.01 | nanotube | peterS, this souds reasonable however I should get error message or no? |
| 06:27.21 | Hohlraum | i attempted to reboot after doing the dist-upgrade and its not coming up. based on teh output i put in the paste bin it looks like it should have installed the new kernel correctly. i'm going to have to run down to the datacenter and fix this but does anyone know what might have happened? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2320 |
| 06:27.34 | JasonBox | peterS: That's cool -- I'll probably find more often than not MAKEFLAGS get eaten by something anyway ;) |
| 06:28.16 | peterS | nanotube: eventually, when ssh doesn't hear back from the other end (because the firewall is dropping the packets), it will give up. this may be after a minute or more, since ssh thinks it is just a slow network |
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| 06:29.02 | nanotube | peterS, there is something wird going on... now I got connection time out:-) |
| 06:29.21 | peterS | nanotube: yes, 'connection timed out' is exactly what ssh will tell you after it hears nothing for awhile and decides to give up |
| 06:31.09 | JasonBox | peterS: Thanks for the help -- I'll run with it and see where I end up :) |
| 06:31.14 | peterS | no problem |
| 06:31.19 | nanotube | peterS, yes is clear, but the reason i'm not sure. Look at this: |
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| 06:32.29 | nanotube | I got : Authentication failure but now I got problem...nevermind I need to find my self :-)) |
| 06:32.45 | nanotube | peterS, thanks for help |
| 06:33.09 | simonrvn | Hohlraum: you hit enter, and it's supposed to abort the install. now, just from that paste, i can't tell whether or not it did install anyway (which would be a bug if it did). |
| 06:33.10 | peterS | nanotube: yeah, it's hard to say just what your problems are. could be multiple problems. |
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| 06:33.35 | Hohlraum | does the debian netinst cd contain any kind of rescue mode? the kernel upgrade got messed up during a dist-upgrade and I need to get the machine going enough to reinstall the kernel images on there. |
| 06:34.08 | liable | Hohlraum: not the sarge installer, you need to chroot. |
| 06:34.14 | jm_ | it gives you a shell you can use for rescue, new versions have rescue mode |
| 06:34.40 | Hohlraum | liable: any suggestions? its 1:30am and this just broke .. i'm gunna be up all night trying to get this fixed |
| 06:34.55 | nanotube | peterS, exactly :-)) thanks |
| 06:35.24 | nanotube | is it hard to switch from grub to lilo? |
| 06:35.43 | liable | Hohlraum: boot the rescue cd, let it run to the partitioner, then change to vt2 and chroot into your / |
| 06:35.44 | simonrvn | Hohlraum: yes |
| 06:36.22 | Hohlraum | liable: what rescue cd?, simonrvn: yes what? :) |
| 06:36.24 | stoned | guys, I have a problem and I cannot figure it, could someone kindly look at http://pastebin.com/645578 and help me figure out what is going on. This started happening today, after I did dist-upgrade. I am running sid. |
| 06:36.36 | liable | Hohlraum: erm, i meant the installer :) |
| 06:36.51 | simonrvn | Hohlraum: the installer cd. (as explained above) |
| 06:36.59 | jm_ | Hohlraum: you asked a quesiton, he answered it |
| 06:37.28 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 06:37.59 | stoned | my problem could be best understood just by looking at the output, instead of me describing it |
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| 06:38.42 | Hohlraum | jim_: i'm sorry its late here and I wasn't expecting this. I'm super tired as well. I asked if the netinst cd had a rescue mode and he said 'not the sarge installer, you need chroot' .. i don't know what that means or how it answered my question :) |
| 06:38.42 | pitillo | that?s sid xD |
| 06:38.51 | simonrvn | ok, dpkg-query didn't die, new perl isn't dead :P |
| 06:38.57 | stoned | and I discovered today that if you eat half a pack of sour skittles you will have a fun time for a long while |
| 06:39.12 | stoned | they are sour, entire half pack kills you :/ |
| 06:39.20 | Hohlraum | so yes i can use the netinst cd ? |
| 06:39.27 | stoned | pitillo, are you talking to me? |
| 06:39.31 | simonrvn | sour skittles love you long time (no insult intended, sorry if there was one taken) |
| 06:39.52 | stoned | simonrvn, lol, thats funny |
| 06:40.13 | stoned | I been a bad mood all day today and all of a sudden you put a smile on my face, god bless you man |
| 06:40.15 | jm_ | Hohlraum: 1. no need to apologize, 2. liable said that, nto simonrvn, 3. it helps if you ask smart questions (i.e. "how do I do this with netinst CD?" instead of "can netinst CD do this?" which can simply be answered with yes or no and from that question I know the very next question will be "how to do it?") |
| 06:40.17 | stoned | hehehe, wicked |
| 06:40.23 | pitillo | stoned, yes :) |
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| 06:40.43 | stoned | pitillo, bro my .bashrc and prompt are customized, its stilld debian sid :) |
| 06:40.47 | simonrvn | stoned: cool :) |
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| 06:41.18 | stoned | so any idea why rdesktop is giving me crap |
| 06:41.34 | Hohlraum | ok let me rephrase this question. The kernel upgrade got messed up during a remote upgrade. I need to bring whatever tools I'm going to need with me from home. The machine has a cdrom drive. What would you recommend that I do? |
| 06:41.53 | simonrvn | rdesktop is a pita. i tried it, and gave up. use vnc instead |
| 06:41.56 | stoned | oh, and I can ping the windows computer fine |
| 06:42.05 | pitillo | stoned, was that package upgraded? or some dep of that package? Think that you are using a innestable distro |
| 06:42.27 | simonrvn | mind you this was linux <-> linux =) |
| 06:42.27 | vin` | Hohlraum: the sarge CD will usually do. |
| 06:42.46 | stoned | simonrvn, really, vnc has been slow as THE motherfuck for me ALWAYS. pitillo yes I have been usin sid for quite some time, sid == unstable. I just upgraded after 2 months today, and rdesktop quit on me. |
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| 06:43.08 | peterS | Hohlraum: boot the sarge cd with something like 'linux26 root=/dev/hda...' whatever your root filesystem is. I think it goes into rescue mode automatically with that line |
| 06:43.21 | peterS | Hohlraum: i.e., boots the system normally, using the kernel on the CD. but I could be wrong |
| 06:43.32 | pitillo | stoned, I was using sid a lot of time... a lot of figths with it. Its unnstable :) |
| 06:43.38 | simonrvn | hm, it was slow for me, but i don't have high end video |
| 06:43.46 | kombi | this so weired: apache just does not deliver the page on a new virtual host, everything else works fine. Any idea where I should look? |
| 06:43.51 | Hohlraum | and by sarge cd you mean the netinst cd image correct? |
| 06:43.57 | vin` | pitillo: never had any problems in the last 3 years. |
| 06:44.08 | stoned | pitillo, honestly, debian sid has been more faithful to me than any other distro. I found sid to far more stable than the other regular 'stable' distros from other companies |
| 06:44.09 | peterS | Hohlraum: right, or the regular sarge CD 1, both should do this |
| 06:44.42 | stoned | simonrvn, what were you reasons for abandoning rdesktop in favor of vnc |
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| 06:44.54 | peterS | kombi: do you have other virtual hosts that know their own document roots? |
| 06:45.08 | kombi | peterS: many |
| 06:45.13 | pitillo | win, then it means that you know to admin your packages, and keep the most important... I haven?t the knowledge you have and may be the reason that I have a lot of figths :) |
| 06:45.32 | peterS | kombi: I'd check /var/log/apache/error.log or wherever you point your default error log, see if it's got any clues |
| 06:45.55 | kombi | peterS: good point but nothing in there |
| 06:46.05 | stoned | pitillo, if you run anything but sarge, you should definitely install 'list bugs' package, and don't install packages with critical bugs |
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| 06:46.19 | peterS | kombi: so since you have many vhosts I assume you know how to check and make sure you're using the right syntax for this new one, so I won't go further into *that* (: |
| 06:46.30 | simonrvn | stoned: well, i was just trying it out, and got impatient with it. no particular reason |
| 06:46.35 | kombi | peterS: access-log happily reports every hit but the page just doesn't get delivered |
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| 06:46.41 | peterS | kombi: double-check that the name resolves to the IP you think it should, though.. |
| 06:46.44 | peterS | ahh. |
| 06:47.07 | pitillo | stoned, I think itsn?t only that... may be a bug is reported when you have installed it... |
| 06:47.21 | kombi | peterS: that is what i getting me down, after 100s of virtual hosts, this one just drives me up the wall... |
| 06:47.32 | stoned | simonrvn, I see. As I understand it, vnc has to update EACH frame all at once, instead of dynamically updating the image where the pixels have changed. Watching videos in rdesktop has always been a lot faster/smoother than in VNC |
| 06:48.17 | c0uin | excuse me im trying this command: losetup -d /dev/loop0 but i have message: ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Périphérique ou ressource occupé |
| 06:48.17 | peterS | kombi: since you have all that other experience I doubt we can help you much. no doubt it's something small and stupid. you can post the appropriate bit of httpd.conf to a paste site if you want, though, and I'll at least take a look |
| 06:48.18 | simonrvn | *nods*. i was just doing basic x stuff, nothing like watching a video |
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| 06:48.39 | kombi | peterS: maybe I should.. wait.. |
| 06:48.40 | stoned | pitillo, once you install sid, it works. Install listbugs. Then when you install a package, check it for critical bugs. If it doesn't have any listed, intall it. If it fucks up on you, you should report it to the debian bug tracking system. That way, other people will have save some headache. Community effor mate :) |
| 06:49.12 | simonrvn | there ya go |
| 06:49.47 | pitillo | stoft, nice, but you are working in a unnstable enviroment. Only that :) |
| 06:49.57 | kombi | peterS: http://pastebin.com/645590 |
| 06:50.02 | pitillo | stoned, sorry |
| 06:50.24 | kombi | who is stoned at this hour? |
| 06:50.30 | stoned | pitillo, of course you realize this is only for my personal desktop machine, not for use in a production environment |
| 06:50.48 | pitillo | :) |
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| 06:50.51 | peterS | kombi: looks very straightforward to me. though I normally do <VirtualHost 0.0.0.0> rather than specifying a full IP, but that's probably just me |
| 06:51.08 | peterS | kombi: he's not stoned, he's just a stone daemon |
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| 06:51.38 | stoned | so, any help on that. http://pastebin.com/645578 anyone? |
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| 06:52.06 | simonrvn | i do <VirtualHost *> unless it's a specific host, then i stick a name (and :port if i'm also doing SSL on that IP) |
| 06:52.06 | kombi | peterS: ok.. the 0.0.0.0 I could try, other virtual hosts look just the same as this one, only with different ServerName and DocumentRoot, ca me gonfle...! |
| 06:52.11 | stoned | peterS, I am too stoned |
| 06:52.26 | peterS | kombi: right, if you're using a.b.c.d:80 for the others, no reason to treat this one differently |
| 06:52.27 | simonrvn | heh, peterS |
| 06:52.29 | kombi | stoned: red maroc? |
| 06:52.39 | stoned | kombi, no, mexican dirt |
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| 06:52.49 | kombi | stoned: eehh. |
| 06:53.01 | kombi | they sold you dirt? |
| 06:53.02 | stoned | thats all this town has. Anyway, does anyone know anything about my problem. rdesktop craps on me |
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| 06:54.05 | PowerPC | i got debian sarge working with kernel 2.6.16.1 ^.^ |
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| 06:54.23 | peterS | kombi: so you're saying /var/log/apache/astroseek-access.log is recording hits, but then ... what's happening to the client? it hangs or what? |
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| 06:57.47 | Xteven | has anyone ever successfully used the shapefile attribute with graphviz ? |
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| 06:59.06 | stoned | i fixed it!!! |
| 06:59.12 | simonrvn | cool |
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| 07:00.15 | lewis22 | how can I output the current virtualhost bandwidth being used by apache (to a text file)? |
| 07:00.33 | stoned | rdesktop -g 1280x1024 -k en-us -u bunghole -p p4ssw0rd -X 0x400ac3 -a 24 windows:3389 &. Resource id in failed request: 0x400ac3. AFTER I upgraded my packages today, software was updated and the id# got changed. I fixed the id# and now it works :) |
| 07:01.01 | simonrvn | ah |
| 07:01.10 | jm_ | why are you using -X? |
| 07:01.19 | stoned | to embed it ito the desktop |
| 07:01.30 | jm_ | as in some sort of panel? |
| 07:01.37 | stoned | kinda sorta yes |
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| 07:02.57 | stoned | jm_, man redesktop, /windowid |
| 07:03.10 | jm_ | stoned: I know what it does, I was just trying to understand your motivation |
| 07:03.20 | stoned | ohh, ok, sorry bro |
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| 07:03.36 | jm_ | no need to be sorry ;) |
| 07:03.41 | stoned | :) |
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| 07:04.47 | justin420 | Hi all. Anybody help me with loading multiple partitions from a Maxtor 300GB NAS drive in fstab? Ive tried *insert ip addy here*:*insert share here* /mnt/*insert folder here*, and no luck? |
| 07:05.20 | jm_ | what is Maxtor 300GB NAS? |
| 07:05.26 | stoned | justin, your fstab entry is incomplete |
| 07:05.47 | stoned | justin420, sorry |
| 07:05.47 | justin420 | forgot to mention the share is user/password protected. |
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| 07:08.13 | stoned | justin420, I don't know much about NAS, as it is actually called SAN (storage area network) drive. I have not much exp. with them, but what you using to mount it as, which file system? |
| 07:08.14 | justin420 | jm_: check here if you want to know http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007KPM42/sr=1-2/qid=1144393657/ref=sr_1_2/104-1099857-8693556?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=pc |
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| 07:08.44 | stoned | jm_, network drives, you can just plug them into your router and its a network drive you can mount |
| 07:08.47 | PowerPC | is kernel 2.6.16.1 supposed to be able to work on debian 3.1? |
| 07:08.47 | PowerPC | lol |
| 07:09.17 | justin420 | stoned: i just put auto in fstab, my winxp pro box says its a ntfs drive? |
| 07:09.42 | dgtlmoon | unless a kernel has proper debian patches i dont neeaaar it :D |
| 07:09.49 | peterS | PowerPC: not really, there are packages that won't work with kernels that new |
| 07:09.52 | stoned | justin, intall ntfs kernel support, mount it as ntfs, you won't be able to write to it. |
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| 07:09.55 | peterS | PowerPC: such as udev |
| 07:10.00 | stoned | justin420, ^^ |
| 07:10.01 | PowerPC | oops.... |
| 07:10.18 | jm_ | stoned: yeah but it gives jack shit about the details - is it exported as NFS? SMB? |
| 07:10.46 | justin420 | stoned: no problems reading and writing from it, just want to make it be a permenant folder instead of having to run smb4k and watching my music and listening to my music |
| 07:10.46 | peterS | PowerPC: the vast majority of the system is fine with new kernels, but there are a few packages here and there that might not be |
| 07:10.47 | stoned | jm_, i know, those things are fucked :/ |
| 07:10.47 | PowerPC | http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5593/kernel8by.png |
| 07:10.47 | stoned | jm_, what happens if you have dhcp disabled? how does the SAN drive get its ip manually? |
| 07:11.07 | stoned | jm_, I have not much exp. so i can't say, but it seems useful/useless at the same time to me |
| 07:11.21 | jm_ | stoned: installation guide is pretty poor too |
| 07:11.26 | justin420 | the maxtor drive says its runs linux/unix. and samba version 3.0.2 i think |
| 07:11.31 | stoned | justin420, you are mounting it as a samba drive? |
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| 07:12.02 | justin420 | stoned: currently yes, i just want it there permenantly when my box starts up. |
| 07:12.04 | stoned | justin420, thats what I would have suggested next, so basically go through the windows machien to access this drive. |
| 07:12.14 | stoned | justin420, look into smbfs |
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| 07:12.27 | jm_ | justin: so what's stopping you then? |
| 07:12.37 | jm_ | justin420 ^^^^ |
| 07:13.31 | justin420 | jm_: lack of knowledge of using fstab or something similar to mount it permenantly. i find it a pain to have to run smb4k to watch my movies or play my music from it. |
| 07:14.00 | stoned | justin420, I repeat, look into smbfs |
| 07:14.02 | Brenner | how I can deny www, smtp, dns and ssh ports with iptables (with 1 command only)? |
| 07:14.06 | justin420 | stoned: thanks man, will do. any other suggestions about it? especially about the user/password protected part of it |
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| 07:14.21 | jm_ | justin420: it's the same as any other fstab line, just change source, mount point, mount options and fs type -- this describes it pretty well http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Mounting_smbfs_Shares_Permanently.html |
| 07:14.28 | Brenner | I try iptables -A INPUT -s 10.200.100.1 -p tcp -m tcp --dports ! 22,25,53,80,443,465,8080 -j DROP but dont works |
| 07:14.30 | justin420 | stoned: or just rtfm |
| 07:14.41 | stoned | justin420, excuse me? |
| 07:14.51 | Brenner | wait |
| 07:15.00 | justin420 | stoned: or should i just read the fucking man page? :) |
| 07:15.10 | stoned | justin420, sure. |
| 07:15.10 | jm_ | Brenner: you need mport module for that |
| 07:15.23 | Brenner | how I can deny all ports that arent www, smtp, dns and ssh ports with iptables (with 1 command only)? |
| 07:15.30 | justin420 | stoned: ok thanks. |
| 07:15.32 | justin420 | thanks all |
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| 07:15.32 | stoned | wow, the older I get the sweeter the metal music becomes |
| 07:15.52 | stoned | hah, I think I will be the only grandpa death metaller |
| 07:15.58 | siimo | i get really loud KDE sound notifications but i get no sound in VLC player or amarok can someone help me please? |
| 07:16.32 | stoned | siimo, configure vlc and amarok to use the arts sound engine output |
| 07:16.56 | stoned | siimo, just in case, make sure you have 'amarok-arts' installed as well |
| 07:17.13 | Brenner | how I can install this module? |
| 07:17.24 | stoned | Brenner, here is a helpful tool. modconf |
| 07:17.31 | stoned | apt-get install modconf if you don't hav eit |
| 07:17.38 | siimo | stoned: yeah thanks its installed but i still get no sound at all :( |
| 07:17.44 | Brenner | ok, tx |
| 07:17.54 | stoned | siimo, distro? amarok version? kde version? |
| 07:18.32 | jm_ | it's iptables module, it's built-in |
| 07:18.41 | siimo | debian sid64 3.5.1 kde 1.3.8 amarok |
| 07:18.44 | jm_ | you just need to tell it to use it on the command line |
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| 07:19.59 | siimo | stoned: now amarok wont even start |
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| 07:20.22 | tarzeau | someone know how to add alpha to png with netpbm or imagemagick? |
| 07:20.27 | Brenner | where I can enter in modconf to find this module? (mport) |
| 07:20.30 | stoned | siimo, amarok is broken in sid right now |
| 07:20.43 | stoned | siimo, just wait until its fixed |
| 07:20.43 | siimo | stoned: ok what about vlc then? |
| 07:20.48 | stoned | siimo, I don't know |
| 07:20.52 | tarzeau | siimo: tried opencubicplayer ? |
| 07:20.58 | tarzeau | siimo: great music player, really! |
| 07:20.59 | siimo | whats that |
| 07:21.10 | tarzeau | http://io.debian.net/~tar/misc/ocp.png |
| 07:21.12 | siimo | i want to watch a divx movie |
| 07:21.17 | tarzeau | ah |
| 07:21.23 | siimo | so i hjave vlc |
| 07:21.26 | siimo | but it wont play sound |
| 07:21.27 | tarzeau | but amarok description says audio player |
| 07:21.29 | tarzeau | not video |
| 07:21.39 | siimo | yeah im talking about VLC now |
| 07:21.42 | stoned | damn, freshmeat is slow tonight |
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| 07:21.48 | tarzeau | stoned: it's morning |
| 07:22.02 | stoned | freshmeat.net/projects/opencubicplayer/ . 2:23am |
| 07:22.18 | stoned | tarzeau, technically ;) |
| 07:22.24 | Brenner | where I can enter in modconf to find this module? (mport) |
| 07:22.33 | tarzeau | !tell Brenner about repeat |
| 07:22.42 | pengol | hi there ... I'm using sarge and switching from kernel 2.6.8-2 to kernel-2.6.8-3 and it doesn't detect root partition ... any clue? |
| 07:23.01 | tarzeau | pengol: exact error msg? |
| 07:23.12 | tarzeau | pengol: edited grub menu yourself? |
| 07:23.20 | lewis22 | so, is there a tool out there, which shows current virtualhost bandwidth being used with apache 1.3? (instead of log analysing) |
| 07:23.27 | jm_ | pengol: didn't you have this problem yesterday? |
| 07:23.31 | stoned | pengol, update-grub should help with fixing menu.lst |
| 07:23.36 | pengol | jm_: still have it |
| 07:23.37 | c0uin | anyone knows LVM because i have an error ?? han i create a lv i have |
| 07:23.40 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.40 | jm_ | pengol: amazing ;) |
| 07:23.40 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.40 | c0uin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.58 | c0uin | and i dont know where is the problem |
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| 07:24.12 | siimo | 00000318] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp) main audio output error: couldn't find a filter for the conversion main audio output error: couldn't set an output pipeline |
| 07:24.19 | siimo | thats what i get with VLC |
| 07:24.20 | pengol | jm_: I definitely pointed to new kernel cos I downgraded to the old and it works... |
| 07:24.30 | stoned | siimo, apt-get install alsa-oss |
| 07:24.38 | jm_ | pengol: sure, but it shouldn't take this long to fix things |
| 07:24.50 | siimo | stoned: cool thanks mate |
| 07:24.57 | stoned | siimo, kil |
| 07:24.57 | pengol | jm_: I do to many things :) |
| 07:24.59 | stoned | doh |
| 07:25.10 | stoned | he left, I was gonna tell him to kill artsd and just stick with alsa |
| 07:25.11 | stoned | lol |
| 07:25.12 | pengol | tarzeau: can't find pivot_root |
| 07:25.27 | pengol | tarzeau: grub is fine wanna see it? |
| 07:25.31 | tarzeau | pengol: no |
| 07:25.37 | stoned | lol |
| 07:25.41 | tarzeau | checked bts? |
| 07:25.47 | c0uin | no anyone knows for LVM2 problem ?? |
| 07:25.50 | pengol | stoned: I have edited menu.lst by myself ... |
| 07:25.58 | tarzeau | pengol: so that must be it. show me |
| 07:26.09 | tarzeau | pengol: did you read the STANZAS THING IN CAPITAL LETTERS? |
| 07:26.21 | pengol | tarzeau: what? menu.lst? |
| 07:26.26 | tarzeau | pengol: yes |
| 07:26.31 | tarzeau | c0uin: ask again in 8 hours |
| 07:26.41 | stoned | pengol, update-grub should automatically fix the boot entries. make a backup of menu.lst, then do update-grub. then compare |
| 07:26.50 | tarzeau | stoned: not if the user breaks it |
| 07:26.54 | pengol | STANZAS THING? |
| 07:26.57 | tarzeau | stoned: i've sseen such user just last week |
| 07:27.01 | c0uin | why in 8H ?? |
| 07:27.04 | tarzeau | pengol: can you read your menu.lst please? |
| 07:27.07 | stoned | tarzeau, i said 'should' :) |
| 07:27.11 | tarzeau | c0uin: because of timezones |
| 07:27.34 | stoned | tarzeau, but you are correct. |
| 07:29.14 | pengol | tarzeau: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2321 |
| 07:30.04 | tarzeau | pengol: must it be sda1 or hda1 ? |
| 07:30.07 | jhaig | How much disk space is required for a debian mirror? I only want it for i386, not all the architectures. |
| 07:30.09 | stoned | why are you mounting both read only? |
| 07:30.10 | tarzeau | pengol: i've had a user screw that up last week |
| 07:30.19 | tarzeau | stoned: it's a user and he broke it |
| 07:30.24 | stoned | hehe |
| 07:30.26 | tarzeau | jhaig: about 10 gigs |
| 07:30.26 | stoned | right you are |
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| 07:30.28 | pengol | tarzeau: is a serial ata drive |
| 07:30.59 | tarzeau | pengol: so ? |
| 07:30.59 | brenner | appears to me: Please enter any command-line for the ipt_multiport module. Many modules can autoprobe and do not require additional parameters. What command I have to enter? |
| 07:31.00 | pengol | tarzeau: the problem is 2.6.8-2-686 works and 2.6.8-3-686 dont |
| 07:31.05 | tarzeau | pengol: i've seen sata drives as hda and sda |
| 07:31.15 | tarzeau | pengol: that sucks. checked bts? |
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| 07:31.19 | tarzeau | pengol: i'd run my own kernel |
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| 07:31.29 | liable | pengol: huh? you said 2.4 worked and 2.6 didnt yesterday? |
| 07:31.36 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 07:31.37 | pengol | hi liable |
| 07:31.40 | pengol | yes |
| 07:31.46 | jm_ | brenner: please don't bother with this, iptables will load it by itself |
| 07:31.52 | pengol | but I also said it worked with the old 2.6 kernel |
| 07:31.57 | brenner | ok, tx again |
| 07:31.57 | pengol | and today I tested it |
| 07:32.06 | jhaig | tarzeau: Thanks. That means I must have misconfigured the script I found at <www.debian.org/mirror/anonftpsync> - 29G and still going. ;-) |
| 07:32.07 | liable | pengol: paste the whole file |
| 07:32.08 | pengol | and it is working with 2.6.8-3 |
| 07:32.11 | pengol | sorru -2 |
| 07:32.18 | stoned | !sata |
| 07:32.18 | dpkg | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or use a 2.6 kernel for less pain, or you must enable CONFIG_SATA and your SATA driver for this to work |
| 07:32.24 | stoned | pengol, ^^ |
| 07:32.31 | tarzeau | jhaig: you know i386 is not just i386 linux |
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| 07:32.49 | Hamled|Erp | tarzeau, but it's so hard, first you have to do an indepth analysis of the various editors available for debian: emacs, vi, vim, pico, nano, probably a ton of other ones; you've gotta select all kinds of criteria, and then score them on a weighted scale, then put it up to a user poll of the top 3 scorers. Then you've gotta memorize the manual for that editor, and only then can you TRUELY read menu.list |
| 07:32.51 | tarzeau | jhaig: i386 is linux, hurd and kfreebsd (not yet on official mirrors, or not on all) |
| 07:33.03 | pengol | stoned: thanks I knew ... I have already been told by jm_ about libata |
| 07:33.05 | tarzeau | Hamled|Erp: you forgot mcedit! |
| 07:33.12 | stoned | pengol, sure |
| 07:33.13 | Hamled|Erp | *gasp* you're right! |
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| 07:33.21 | tarzeau | and TextEdit.app |
| 07:33.22 | Hamled|Erp | I'm gonna have to do the whole process over now :( |
| 07:33.28 | tarzeau | Hamled|Erp: heh :) |
| 07:33.35 | jhaig | tarzeau: Right, I didn't know that. I'll look into it. |
| 07:33.59 | pengol | I have already tryed with hdd device like it is for kernel 2.4 but it doesn't work |
| 07:33.59 | Hamled|Erp | or you could just symlink all of those to nano and call it a day |
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| 07:34.20 | tarzeau | jhaig: besdies know this? http://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
| 07:34.50 | stoned | well guys, i'll be lurking around, I have to study for a biology test. |
| 07:34.51 | tarzeau | it's a bit outdated |
| 07:35.16 | tarzeau | Hamled: know le ? i'm looking for an editor that can edit 10gb files more comfortable than lde |
| 07:35.26 | jhaig | Ahem! It looks as though it was getting absolutely everything - the line to mask out architectures I don't want was commented out. ;-) |
| 07:35.31 | jhaig | tarzeau: Thanks for the help. |
| 07:35.51 | Hamled | tarzeau, but.... fat32 only allows 4GB files ??? |
| 07:37.10 | pengol | there is nothing about it in the bts |
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| 07:40.45 | goodshit | Anyone know foundry big iron. I can't remove this line from my config file. Any reason why I can't remove that. When I do a sh config i see this line access-list 111 deny ip 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 any so to get rid of it i did a (config)#no access-list 111 deny ip 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 any |
| 07:40.45 | goodshit | Error: No such entry... |
| 07:41.18 | pengol | should I open a new bug? |
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| 07:43.53 | tarzeau | Hamled: haha |
| 07:43.53 | tarzeau | Hamled: depends on the block size |
| 07:43.54 | tarzeau | err inode size |
| 07:43.54 | Hamled | ah, good point |
| 07:43.56 | tarzeau | although it's called different for fat i think |
| 07:44.00 | brenner | tx for all... bye |
| 07:44.04 | tarzeau | not sure if it's possible to have larger ones thatn 32k |
| 07:44.06 | pengol | liable: this is the whole file http://channels.debian.net/paste/2322 |
| 07:44.26 | tarzeau | Hamled: what files do you have larger than 4gb? |
| 07:44.41 | Hamled | some DVD images :/ |
| 07:44.44 | Hamled | not that I"m on fat32 |
| 07:44.57 | Hamled | I was just making a joke about how "how can you edit 10GB files if fat32 only allows 4GB files?" |
| 07:45.37 | FauxFaux | tarzeau: Backups, videos.. |
| 07:45.38 | tarzeau | i've got ext2/3 |
| 07:45.50 | Hamled | I've got NTFS *runs* |
| 07:45.57 | tarzeau | UFS2 here |
| 07:46.57 | liable | pengol: and you say -2 boots, wheras -3 doesnt? |
| 07:47.08 | FauxFaux | Heh, oh, I'm in #debian.. I was here to.. er.. |
| 07:47.24 | tarzeau | FauxFaux: to? |
| 07:47.29 | pengol | liable: yes ... and also security update for -2 doesn't boot |
| 07:47.30 | Hamled | now he can't remember |
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| 07:48.11 | FauxFaux | Oh yeah, I was going to slap whoever packages php5 for testing/unstable for removing pdo support. |
| 07:48.21 | tarzeau | FauxFaux: haha |
| 07:48.34 | tarzeau | FauxFaux: try apt-cache show pkg | grep ^Maint |
| 07:48.37 | FauxFaux | Which caused me about 3 hours of stress yesterday. |
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| 07:48.50 | tarzeau | FauxFaux: i haven't slept yesterday |
| 07:49.09 | SkrotFFS | Hi. Is there a option I can use in fstab to not have debian try to mount it at boot? |
| 07:49.11 | FauxFaux | Alas, it doesn't give a name :/ |
| 07:49.16 | jm_ | SkrotFFS: yes |
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| 07:49.24 | tarzeau | http://www.bash.org/?632794 |
| 07:49.30 | SkrotFFS | jm_: And that would be? :) |
| 07:49.45 | Hamled | ....wow tarzeau |
| 07:49.55 | jm_ | SkrotFFS: try to find out what auto/noauto keyword means for mount |
| 07:50.11 | SkrotFFS | jm_: Thanks |
| 07:50.53 | Hamled | that reminds me that if you attempt to drag an image in firefox (when you're viewing the image directly), it gives you the international "Not Allowed" symbol for a cursor, so you could I guess sensor pornographic material that way |
| 07:51.09 | simonrvn | 'censor' |
| 07:51.23 | Hamled | yes |
| 07:51.24 | Hamled | censor |
| 07:51.26 | Hamled | it is late |
| 07:52.03 | simonrvn | np :). for me too. i'm re-adding in this svn repo of one of my sites and i'm going to bed |
| 07:52.15 | simonrvn | w00t |
| 07:52.19 | FauxFaux | Hamled: Opera (on windows)'s way is better, it gives you a transparent copy of the image to drag around.. just verlay it on some work ;) |
| 07:52.25 | simonrvn | (svn commit messge e-mailed ;) |
| 07:52.49 | jm_ | it doesn't behave that way, it shows me an image of document with some sort of error in top-left corner |
| 07:52.51 | Hamled | FauxFaux, but it's not all web2.0 man :( |
| 07:53.32 | lewis22 | anyone use munin to monitor apache virtualhosts/ |
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| 07:54.01 | jm_ | lewis22: are you saying status requests don't work per virtualhost? |
| 07:54.18 | simonrvn | Faithful: does it do it on the linux one? |
| 07:54.28 | simonrvn | Faithful: woops, wrong tab |
| 07:54.33 | simonrvn | FauxFaux: ^^^ |
| 07:55.07 | simonrvn | i'm on web16.3 :P |
| 07:55.19 | pengol | I noticed that the two config file for 268-2 and 268-3 are same ... |
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| 07:55.37 | FauxFaux | simonrvn: No, it doesn't.. I'm guessing either the version of QT it's built against or X is lame. |
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| 07:55.46 | DevilChaos | hello everybody |
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| 07:55.49 | DevilChaos | :) |
| 07:55.53 | jeffrin | hello |
| 07:55.54 | pengol | should I open a new bug on bts? |
| 07:56.00 | simonrvn | FauxFaux: probably x doesn't support it |
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| 07:56.17 | FauxFaux | simonrvn: *sigh* |
| 07:56.51 | simonrvn | well, xorg 7 has a lot in store for us. |
| 07:57.07 | DevilChaos | whens it released? |
| 07:57.12 | konfuzed | yeah |
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| 07:57.51 | simonrvn | it's being taken care of, i'm sure of it (SIYH ;) |
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| 07:58.33 | FauxFaux | It's all completely useless until they fix hardware support so it works with desktop machines (must.. not.. troll) |
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| 07:59.17 | fjgaspar | hi |
| 07:59.34 | jm_ | pengol: why don't you first find out why it fails? |
| 07:59.48 | simonrvn | heh |
| 07:59.50 | fjgaspar | i need some help, please |
| 08:00.10 | DevilChaos | !ask |
| 08:00.10 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 08:02.00 | fjgaspar | I am trying to install debian in an LC2000 server, but doesn't recognize the Netraid controller, so don't see any hard disk,what can I do? |
| 08:02.24 | pengol | jm_: It doesn't detect the root file system ... how can I find out why should I pass some boot option?? |
| 08:03.57 | lewis22 | jm_: sorry - what do you mean by status requests? At the moment with munin, I see 'apache volume' which looks like total bandwidth transferred. I would like to see per domain/virtualhost stats too. What would you recommend? |
| 08:04.17 | fjgaspar | can anybody help me? |
| 08:04.24 | pengol | jm_: should I ask elsewhere? |
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| 08:05.06 | DevilChaos | alot of people at wrk and not actually here |
| 08:05.17 | DevilChaos | maybes try later |
| 08:05.41 | fjgaspar | I suppose, I will keep on trying |
| 08:05.51 | DevilChaos | :) |
| 08:06.16 | fjgaspar | it's very important to me solve this question |
| 08:06.33 | DevilChaos | always important heh |
| 08:07.03 | fjgaspar | yeah, but not always your job depends on it |
| 08:07.04 | fjgaspar | :-) |
| 08:07.46 | DevilChaos | doh that sucks |
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| 08:07.51 | DevilChaos | google it? |
| 08:08.27 | fjgaspar | i was trying yesterday all theday, but no solution found |
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| 08:13.25 | peritus | i want to bring up eth0 auto on boot, but only when link is active, how can i do that? now it scans for DHCP offers even if the cable is unplugged and slows down the boot |
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| 08:13.55 | BlackFriday | How do I add a command to run at system start? Is there a file along the lines of /etc/rc.local or something that I can put commands into that I want run on boot? |
| 08:14.11 | fjgaspar | I am trying to install debian in an LC2000 server, but doesn't recognize the Netraid controller, so don't see any hard disk,what can I do? |
| 08:14.23 | pengol | I need to go ... by all and thanks |
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| 08:16.35 | jm_ | lewis22: tried issuing the request for each virtualhost? |
| 08:16.47 | jm_ | pengol: does it detect the disk? |
| 08:16.53 | jm_ | gah |
| 08:18.03 | fjgaspar | ok, easier question |
| 08:18.42 | jm_ | fjgaspar: try using a newer kernel |
| 08:18.56 | fjgaspar | I have a diskete with drivers, how can i use those drivers during the install ? |
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| 08:19.11 | fjgaspar | jm: the problem is the new kernel |
| 08:19.19 | fjgaspar | does not support all cards |
| 08:19.22 | jm_ | fjgaspar: how is that a problem? |
| 08:19.55 | fjgaspar | I'm trying to install debian in a HP LC20000 server |
| 08:20.06 | jm_ | so you said |
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| 08:20.23 | fjgaspar | and doesn't recognize the hard disk beacause the netraid controller |
| 08:20.37 | jm_ | peritus: ifplugd might be of some assistance |
| 08:20.54 | jm_ | what kernel versions have you tried? is this controller supported by vanilla kernel? |
| 08:21.07 | Yopyop | where can i find the gpg key id for mirror ? i can find the key on ftp-master but i didnt find the id |
| 08:21.19 | jm_ | Yopyop: ask dpkg |
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| 08:21.22 | fjgaspar | Tried with 2.6 |
| 08:21.29 | jm_ | which version of 2.6? |
| 08:21.56 | fjgaspar | the kernel that comes with the official last stable debian iso |
| 08:22.08 | jm_ | right, so try a newer one |
| 08:22.20 | Yopyop | jm i want to do a debmirror on a sarge and the gpg thing in topic does not solve my problem |
| 08:22.38 | fjgaspar | This is the newest, jm |
| 08:22.42 | jm_ | Yopyop: apt in Sarge does not even support this ... |
| 08:22.47 | jm_ | fjgaspar: no, /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
| 08:23.01 | Yopyop | my problem is not apt, its debmirror |
| 08:23.13 | jm_ | I don't see how debmirror in Sarge will care either |
| 08:24.05 | Yopyop | thats how it take care : Errors: Release signature does not verify. |
| 08:24.35 | fjgaspar | jm_ thanks, I will try, but I have read that those kernels does not support old netraids |
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| 08:25.07 | Yopyop | i can use the option to ignore gpg error, but i dont want to |
| 08:26.11 | fjgaspar | is there any way of, during installation, insert a diskete with the good driver and use it? |
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| 08:27.30 | lewis22 | jm_: how do I edit the munin plugin for per-virtualhost then? I can pastebin it if you want |
| 08:27.54 | jm_ | yeah that's different, try fetching the archive signing key here -- http://ftp-master.debian.org/ |
| 08:28.04 | jm_ | although I am not sure why you're getting that error |
| 08:28.15 | jm_ | lewis22: why not first find out if it would work? |
| 08:28.53 | lewis22 | err - that's what I am trying to do now, by asking ;) |
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| 08:28.56 | Yopyop | im getting strange error when i use the key of ftp-master, perhaps i do not use the good way to import it |
| 08:29.23 | jm_ | lewis22: no, you're asking how to get munin to do it, test it manually first |
| 08:29.42 | tralala | does the rt2500 driver need an external firmware? |
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| 08:30.40 | lewis22 | If I can get the results into a file, I can display it with munin. I have been trying to find out how to obtain that information (outside of munin) too. I think I want something similar to apachetop or so, which queries apache directly, and not a log analyzer. |
| 08:30.57 | jm_ | tried GET 'http://virthost/server-status?auto' |
| 08:31.17 | jm_ | check if it works OK, and adapt your munin plugins accordingly, or add new ones |
| 08:31.27 | lewis22 | I don't have server-status?auto enabled |
| 08:31.35 | jm_ | that's what apache_volume plugin does anyway |
| 08:31.42 | fjgaspar | jm_, is there any way of, during installation, insert a diskete with the good driver and use it? |
| 08:31.51 | jm_ | then this plugin won't work and you'll have to use your own method to get the info |
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| 08:32.11 | jm_ | fjgaspar: you can get to shell and try to do it from there, but it very often doesn't work |
| 08:32.23 | lewis22 | well, the apache_volume plugin already gets the information (and I have no idea how it does) |
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| 08:32.30 | fjgaspar | ok |
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| 08:32.51 | jm_ | it gets it via server-status |
| 08:33.06 | lch | heya, I'm trying to compile and install a module for my usb wlan adapter, first timer... |
| 08:33.18 | lch | should I install 2.3.2.ds1-22 or libc6-dev for this? |
| 08:33.29 | Pazitron_brain | How can I use another irc server in program: irc? |
| 08:34.10 | jm_ | Pazitron_brain: uhh with server command, but it will disconnect you from current one unless you create a new window and do it there |
| 08:34.51 | Pazitron_brain | jm_: what command must I enter? |
| 08:35.02 | jm_ | Pazitron_brain: /help server |
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| 08:35.11 | lewis22 | jm_: ah - one second |
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| 08:35.51 | lch | can anybody tell me the difference between the packages libc6-dev and 2.3.2.ds1-22 ? :P |
| 08:36.02 | Eulex | lch, umh, 2.3.2.ds1-22 is the version of libc6 and libc6-dev in sarge |
| 08:36.10 | lch | oh |
| 08:36.10 | jm_ | no, because 2.3.2.ds1-22 is not a package |
| 08:36.16 | lewis22 | jm_: my bad - the command you mentioned earlier works, 'GET http://localhost/server-status?auto' - I was trying externally, whereby apache was denying it |
| 08:36.17 | lch | so it doesn't matter at all? |
| 08:36.28 | lch | ok thanks |
| 08:36.41 | jm_ | lewis22: right, now try to issue it for virtual hosts and see if it works (reports proper data for them) |
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| 08:37.28 | lewis22 | jm_: ok - going to see if I can find some documentation for the commands (how to obtain info for virtual hosts with server-status) |
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| 08:37.55 | sambrista | hello! i've got problems with alsa. I do alsaconf and everything goes ok, but it doesn't sound. Moreover, /dev/dsp doesn't even exist |
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| 08:38.15 | jm_ | lewis22: replace localhost with your virtualhost? |
| 08:38.26 | maskara | lolwat |
| 08:38.32 | sambrista | i think it is a matter of modules. can anyone help me? |
| 08:39.22 | jm_ | ALSA docs will help you |
| 08:39.31 | lewis22 | oh |
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| 08:39.53 | fjgaspar | thanks all |
| 08:39.56 | fjgaspar | bye |
| 08:40.02 | jm_ | http://alsa.opensrc.org/OssEmulation |
| 08:40.17 | jm_ | and make sure you run alsamixer and unmute/adjust volume |
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| 08:40.56 | sambrista | in alsamixer, the DSP volume is "off" |
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| 08:41.02 | sambrista | how can i turn it to on? |
| 08:41.26 | bartden | hi, has someone got Xgl and debian (on kde) working properly ? |
| 08:41.28 | mixter | how could i reconfigure my network settings? i'm looking for the wizard i used when installing debian... |
| 08:41.35 | lewis22 | jm_: what a star! trying it now |
| 08:41.54 | jm_ | mixter: no such thing, use an editor or possibly etherconf |
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| 08:42.38 | mixter | jm_: ok.. is it enough to edit in /etc/network/ ? |
| 08:42.50 | lewis22 | jm_: hmm apache blocks connections to 'GET http://domain.com/server-status' - with a permission error |
| 08:42.54 | jm_ | mixter: that's a directory |
| 08:43.11 | mixter | jm_: yes, but are all settings in the files in that directory |
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| 08:43.16 | jm_ | mixter: yes |
| 08:43.22 | mixter | jm_: ok! thanks... |
| 08:43.29 | jm_ | lewis22: ok, then we need to find out about those requests |
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| 08:44.00 | lewis22 | in the error.log it says... |
| 08:44.29 | macsim | hi, I've got a "Synaptics deviceoff called" and my touchpad freeze, any solution ? thanks |
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| 08:44.35 | lewis22 | client denied by server configuration |
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| 08:45.11 | Aap | hi guys, is there a command (like ifconfig) that returns info about the hardware of a network card? |
| 08:45.19 | jm_ | yeah remote and local status requests have a separate configuration |
| 08:45.23 | bartden | is there an deb file for Xorg 7 ? |
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| 08:45.53 | lch | Aap, there is lspci for that |
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| 08:46.05 | lewis22 | I only want to query locally, but it is as if it views 'GET http://domain.com/server-status' as being external compared to 'GET http://localhost/server-status'' |
| 08:46.11 | nkuttler | bartden: for stable? |
| 08:46.16 | bartden | no |
| 08:46.21 | Aap | oh yes, thx lch |
| 08:46.23 | bartden | nkuttler unstable |
| 08:46.40 | nkuttler | oh, wait, 7... no idea |
| 08:46.54 | Aap | and any other tools? |
| 08:47.48 | Aap | cause i have to make a link from the name (eg eth0) to the brand or something like that |
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| 08:48.21 | bedboi | hi there |
| 08:48.36 | bedboi | anyone is aware of the libstdc++6 bug in sid? |
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| 08:50.13 | jm_ | lewis22: hmm can't find out if you can do it like that |
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| 08:51.08 | bartden | is there an deb file for Xorg 7 (unstable) ? |
| 08:51.14 | lewis22 | trying to see if I can find a great command like: 'GET http://localhost/server-status?list=virtualhosts&type=bandwidth' |
| 08:51.15 | lewis22 | :) |
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| 08:52.06 | mixter | aap: you could use dmesg too see which driver find eht0 |
| 08:52.20 | Neverther | lewis22, lynx --source ; w3m -dump |
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| 08:53.07 | entuall | hello |
| 08:53.50 | Aap | yes thx mixter |
| 08:54.07 | jm_ | lewis22: mod_status doc doesn't list any details |
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| 08:54.58 | lewis22 | somebody must have been interested in this feature before |
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| 08:55.33 | jm_ | I guess they simply enabled remote access to status page ;) |
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| 09:00.19 | lewis22 | jm_: nevermind - will give up on that |
| 09:01.03 | lewis22 | btw, with munin, what does a small 'm' mean after a number, i.e. 501.3m (does it really mean million?) |
| 09:01.14 | lord_rob | hi ! While updating my sources in aptitude (aptitude update) I get this strange warning : W: Bizarre Error - File size is not what the server reported 189 191? Never got that before. What does that mean ? |
| 09:02.00 | lewis22 | the next thing I am going to figure out, is how to show all processes using over 50meg of memory |
| 09:02.27 | ShadowJK | top |
| 09:02.29 | ShadowJK | then M |
| 09:02.38 | ShadowJK | sorts by RSS |
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| 09:04.19 | lewis22 | with one line command though |
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| 09:06.00 | Delta[DA] | would anyone be willing to help me get video working on a laptop? :/ |
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| 09:07.24 | vin` | Lorvija: as a temporary fix just update again. ;) |
| 09:07.32 | vin` | lord_rob: ^^ |
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| 09:09.11 | cahoot | Delta[DA]: already visited tuxmobil.org? |
| 09:09.38 | Delta[DA] | *sigh* I'll have a look thanks. |
| 09:09.47 | sparr | is there a channel where i can find help with imagemagick? |
| 09:09.58 | azeem | sparr: probably not |
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| 09:10.20 | sparr | :( |
| 09:10.31 | azeem | well, maybe there is #imagemagick, dunno |
| 09:10.38 | sparr | probably the biggest piece of software ive seen that doesnt have an irc channel |
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| 09:12.28 | raf256 | hi |
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| 09:13.28 | Ketter | I need to install pgsql7.3, for a migration thingy.. and while reading the install it says it requiers gmake.. but, is that still around? |
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| 09:14.14 | Myon | peterS: delays because of fixing svn will of course get you bonus points :) |
| 09:14.32 | peterS | Myon: heh. if only I could actually resolve the problems I'm having (: |
| 09:14.59 | Myon | if it were arch, you'd be doomed, of course |
| 09:15.11 | peterS | haha |
| 09:15.28 | Myon | bzr will probably be up for adoption in a few weeks |
| 09:15.39 | Myon | (also BAD®) |
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| 09:15.59 | azeem | Myon: bzr? |
| 09:16.05 | Myon | sigfood |
| 09:16.06 | peterS | azeem: bazaar-ng |
| 09:16.29 | peterS | oh, the package actually is called 'bzr' in debian |
| 09:16.32 | azeem | Myon: are the Uploaders uninterested in maintaining it? |
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| 09:16.46 | laurens_ | hi |
| 09:16.47 | azeem | maybe I should read scrollback |
| 09:17.09 | laurens_ | does anyone have a clue what install cd i should use to install directly onto a WD raptor (SATA disk) from a nforce4 box? |
| 09:17.25 | laurens_ | the disk is on the nv sata controller |
| 09:17.40 | jm_ | laurens_: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
| 09:17.46 | jm_ | so yes |
| 09:17.47 | laurens_ | perhaps i should put it on the siI controller |
| 09:17.49 | laurens_ | then install |
| 09:17.55 | laurens_ | then put it back |
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| 09:18.15 | peterS | Myon: anyway ... yeah. I'll get back to NM Real Soon Now. I haven't forgotten about the license analyses, etc. |
| 09:18.17 | cafuego | ... and add a newer kenrel, of course. |
| 09:18.30 | laurens_ | I am building a HTPC |
| 09:18.44 | laurens_ | with RME hammerfall soundcard and hauppauge pvr-350 tv tuner |
| 09:18.48 | laurens_ | and an ahtlon64 |
| 09:18.56 | laurens_ | should i use x86_64 or x86? |
| 09:19.04 | laurens_ | im thinking x86 for the codecs. |
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| 09:19.30 | peterS | laurens_: certainly x86 is better supported by non-free software |
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| 09:19.56 | peterS | (and even by free software, but I expect that will change soon) |
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| 09:20.22 | sparr | so who else did Delta[DA] just PM? |
| 09:21.05 | laurens_ | not me |
| 09:21.34 | lord_rob | vin`: that's what I've done. No more problem of course as the sources are up to date |
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| 09:22.34 | fireba11 | hm ... i added a cronjob, but i seem to have messed up somewhere ..the new one is working but now i'm getting a mail from cron every hour with an error message .. subject says " root run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly" and message is "/bin/sh: line 1: root: command not found" .. i can't find whats wrong .. someone can help me or tell me how to debug this ? |
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| 09:26.12 | ssfdfsf | hi im having a bizarre ftp problem, file transfers cut off and hang at 32bytes |
| 09:26.41 | jm_ | fireba11: isn't it obvious? |
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| 09:29.29 | cahoot | sparr: here's a very good site om IM (handcrafted url so typos may occur) www.git.gu.edu.au/graphics/imagemagick6 |
| 09:29.33 | fireba11 | jm_ should be .. but crn.hourly is empty |
| 09:31.01 | weissi | !botox |
| 09:31.06 | botox | hi |
| 09:31.10 | cahoot | sparr: (typo did occur) www.cit.gu.edu.au/graphics/imagemagick6 |
| 09:31.23 | fireba11 | jm_ also the only cron file modified in the last days is the new one and it is working ^^ |
| 09:31.25 | botox | tried passive mode, dosent make a difference |
| 09:31.38 | botox | what gets me is that other machines on the same network work fine, and its not client specific |
| 09:32.02 | weissi | botox, hi :-), isn't botox the thing all hollywood-ladies use? *g* |
| 09:32.24 | ShadowJK | botox makes the hollywood ladies happy |
| 09:32.51 | botox | yeh it is |
| 09:32.51 | cahoot | at least relaxed |
| 09:32.54 | botox | the ladies love it |
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| 09:33.30 | weissi | dpkg, botox is Botulin toxin, popularly sold under the brand name Botox®, is an exceptionally potent neurotoxin that has found a variety of remarkable uses in modern medicine. It is also the most popular nonsurgical medical cosmetic treatment in the UK and USA. |
| 09:33.30 | dpkg | i'm not going to learn illegal characters, weissi |
| 09:33.49 | weissi | dpkg, botox is Botulin toxin, popularly sold under the brand name Botox(R), is an exceptionally potent neurotoxin that has found a variety of remarkable uses in modern medicine. It is also the most popular nonsurgical medical cosmetic treatment in the UK and USA. |
| 09:33.49 | dpkg | okay, weissi |
| 09:33.53 | weissi | :-) |
| 09:34.00 | botox | its good shit |
| 09:34.51 | weissi | botox, and you invented that? You have to be soooo rich |
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| 09:34.55 | sparr | thanks cahoot |
| 09:35.10 | Eidgenosse | hallo ali |
| 09:35.12 | lewis22 | what's the best way of listing the top 10 commands of real memory usage? |
| 09:35.14 | sparr | cahoot: links still bad |
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| 09:35.24 | Eidgenosse | chan öber dütsch? |
| 09:35.33 | Du | tag |
| 09:35.35 | weissi | !de |
| 09:35.35 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 09:35.36 | sparr | !de |
| 09:35.41 | sparr | damdamnit |
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| 09:35.47 | Eidgenosse | hey Du |
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| 09:35.57 | Eidgenosse | ich bruch ka hilf |
| 09:36.00 | weissi | dpkg, tell Eidgenosse about de |
| 09:36.01 | weissi | dpkg, tell Eidgenosse about ch |
| 09:36.03 | azeem | Eidgenosse: then talk in english |
| 09:36.12 | Eidgenosse | nei man |
| 09:36.15 | botox | i am a rich person |
| 09:36.19 | azeem | Eidgenosse: then please leave |
| 09:36.24 | sparr | english or #debian.de |
| 09:36.25 | Eidgenosse | wye? |
| 09:36.26 | azeem | or stay silent |
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| 09:36.32 | botox | put some botox on |
| 09:36.35 | Eidgenosse | dini muäter |
| 09:36.36 | Rici | hei |
| 09:36.42 | Eidgenosse | heil!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:36.43 | sparr | azeem: we should be #debian.en_us :) |
| 09:36.56 | Rici | heil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:36.57 | cahoot | sparr: (ok third try) www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagemagick6 |
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| 09:37.00 | Rici | hitler |
| 09:37.04 | Eidgenoss | urli |
| 09:37.04 | weissi | botox, then do it as mozilla foundation: go and support poor OpenBSD people ;-) |
| 09:37.05 | Eidgenosse | himler |
| 09:37.08 | Rici | ueli |
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| 09:37.11 | sparr | cahoot: third strike |
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| 09:37.12 | weissi | SHUT UP! |
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| 09:37.27 | cahoot | sparr: (ok third try) www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagick6 |
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| 09:37.52 | jm_ | fireba11: how did you do this? |
| 09:37.59 | weissi | azeem, thanks |
| 09:38.03 | fireba11 | jm_ how did i do what ? |
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| 09:38.54 | jm_ | fireba11: add new cron job |
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| 09:39.26 | fireba11 | jm_ added a line to a crontab fragment in /etc/cron.d ... it's working fine on another box |
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| 09:39.49 | jm_ | fireba11: you can't specify username in there, only in /etc/crontab |
| 09:40.19 | fireba11 | jm_ uhm .. the existing file from munin package got that entry too |
| 09:40.22 | jm_ | FireBlade: my bad, you can specify it |
| 09:40.31 | jm_ | fireba11 ^^^ |
| 09:40.46 | jm_ | fireba11: did you name the file properly? |
| 09:41.25 | fireba11 | jm_ didn't rename it either .. it's still called munin-node and that should be okay |
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| 09:42.02 | fireba11 | jm_ checked file owner and access rights too |
| 09:42.06 | jm_ | fireba11: did you check /etc/crontab if it's OK? |
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| 09:42.13 | Jake | Just trying too install qmail ... ive found alot of google results for this but no real solutions so far ... perhaps someone can spread some light on what needs to be done "Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS." |
| 09:42.29 | Jake | :'( - any help would be much appreciated |
| 09:42.43 | fireba11 | jm_ yes it's okay and the file is over 6 months old ... i only get the error since yesterday when i made the last change :-/ |
| 09:42.50 | fireba11 | jm_ that's why i'm confused |
| 09:43.36 | jm_ | fireba11: well it's trying to run something called root, you "only" need to find out what's causing it |
| 09:44.11 | jm_ | fireba11: possibly use strace for hourly shit |
| 09:44.45 | fireba11 | i copied the file over from the box where it's working fine .. and set time to every 5 minutes to see if its my new file |
| 09:47.50 | fireba11 | jm_ okay .. it was NOT the new script .. i changed time so it won't run at the same time as hourly stuff ... ^^ |
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| 09:48.44 | fireba11 | will find it sooner or later i guess ^^ |
| 09:49.04 | lewis22 | I found this, but not quite what I am looking for: ps -vx | head -1 ; ps vx| grep -v PID | sort -rn +6 | head -10 |
| 09:49.10 | lewis22 | any suggestions? |
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| 09:51.38 | jm_ | fireba11: it doesn't matter if it runs at the same time |
| 09:52.38 | fireba11 | jm_ i know .. it was just confusing me .. since cron-hourly is empty i don't know what job at all should be running and causing that message then |
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| 09:53.21 | jm_ | fireba11: strace it |
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| 09:53.44 | fireba11 | jm_ how do i strace soemthing like that ? |
| 09:53.54 | jm_ | fireba11: edit /etc/crontab |
| 09:54.06 | jm_ | FireBlade: or simply attach to cron process just before it will start |
| 09:54.37 | fireba11 | "attach to cron process" ? please tell me how to do that :-) |
| 09:56.01 | jm_ | strace -s 1024 -o /tmp/strace.txt -f -p <cronpid> |
| 09:56.19 | fireba11 | ah okay, thanks .. will try in 4 minutes then :-) |
| 09:56.28 | mixte1 | how could i reconfigure exim? |
| 09:56.40 | jm_ | just in time - like "modern" processes work :) |
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| 09:56.51 | jm_ | mixte1: depends on which version of exim you're using |
| 09:56.58 | FabParma | hi |
| 09:57.30 | mixte1 | jm_: the exim4-package in sarge |
| 09:57.53 | jm_ | !drec mixte1 |
| 09:57.57 | mixte1 | jm_: 4.50-8 |
| 09:58.18 | FabParma | im using epic4, do you know one better in text-based mode? thanks |
| 09:58.28 | jm_ | uff, why dosn't it work? |
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| 09:58.38 | jm_ | !tell mixte1 -about configure exim |
| 09:58.45 | jm_ | !tell mixte1 -about exim4 reconfigure |
| 09:58.51 | botox | any ideas about my ftp problem? |
| 09:58.59 | botox | halts at 32bytes when i upload |
| 09:59.07 | jm_ | ahh it's not a command ;) |
| 09:59.08 | mixte1 | jm_: that worked better... thanks! |
| 09:59.12 | botox | even in PASSV |
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| 09:59.25 | marsje | I think I overwrote my default /etc/crontab and now it won't do the daily/weekly/monthly things anymore. How do I get the default file back? |
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| 09:59.31 | Myon | azeem: of course I'd ask them first, it's just the maintainer seems to have disappeared completely |
| 09:59.43 | azeem | Myon: yeah, I noticed that :-/ |
| 09:59.47 | jm_ | marsje: reinstall the package |
| 10:00.01 | zam_aliphe | wher is the defult kde menu fils?? |
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| 10:00.13 | Myon | which is sad, since I'm his AM, and shouldn't be MIA-tracking him |
| 10:00.19 | zam_aliphe | what is the command that "lock session" on kde?? |
| 10:00.30 | FabParma | im using epic4, do you know one better in text-based mode? thanks |
| 10:01.30 | Myon | FabParma: irssi |
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| 10:02.03 | weissi | zam_aliphe, I think, it's a dcop command, try `dcop --all-sessions --all-users kdesktop KScreensaverIface lock` |
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| 10:02.30 | lewis22 | jm_: any advice about viewing the top 5 real memory using commands, in a simple list? |
| 10:02.39 | FabParma | Myon, tanks |
| 10:02.44 | weissi | zam_aliphe, I don't have kde anymore, so I can't test it. If it doesn't work, use kdcop as a "dcop browser", otherwise google is your friend |
| 10:03.20 | zam_aliphe | <weissi> thanks |
| 10:04.03 | lewis22 | jm_: got a second? |
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| 10:05.25 | FabParma | i cant remember the command to update Debian, can you tell me it? Thannks |
| 10:05.39 | jm_ | lewis22: sure, ps, sort by mem | head or tail |
| 10:05.59 | weissi | lewis22, `ps auxw| sed "s/ \+/ /g" | cut -d" " -f4,11- | sort -k1,4| tail -5` ??? |
| 10:06.05 | lewis22 | ooh |
| 10:06.34 | jm_ | ps can sort, no need to use sort |
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| 10:06.54 | jm_ | I use alias psm='ps auxw --sort vsz' |
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| 10:07.08 | lewis22 | that's very close to what I want - although I would prefer real memory values, (and not percentages), and commands, (instead of entire processes) |
| 10:08.10 | weissi | lewis22, `ps auxw| sed "s/ \+/ /g" | cut -d" " -f4,11- | sort -k1 | tail -5` is better (-k1,4 was wrong!) |
| 10:08.29 | FabParma | what command to update all OS ? i cant remember it, thanks |
| 10:08.42 | lewis22 | weissi: cool, though a similar result to the last command |
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| 10:08.45 | Eulex | FabParma, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 10:08.46 | weissi | lewis22, then korrekt the "cut" command (-f4,11 means take field 4 and 11) |
| 10:09.04 | FabParma | Eulex, Thanks |
| 10:09.11 | weissi | lewis22, yes, but I think in several special cases it _MAY_ give another result |
| 10:09.15 | Eulex | FabParma, yw :) |
| 10:09.23 | weissi | lewis22, I'm not sure, but the latter should be correct |
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| 10:12.19 | lord_rob | FabParma: you can also consider (apt-get install) aptitude which simplifies the task when you run into dependancy problems |
| 10:13.14 | CAiRO | what was the command again to remove those ^M line breaks from dos files? |
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| 10:13.47 | weissi | CAiRO, dos2unix ? (there are many commands for that) |
| 10:13.49 | lord_rob | CAiRO: dos2unix ? |
| 10:13.55 | CAiRO | hmm, not found |
| 10:13.55 | psofa | can someone tell me why gnome/kde take both my screens :0.0 and :0.1 when starting and how can i stop them? |
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| 10:14.12 | lord_rob | CAiRO: apt-get install it |
| 10:14.21 | jm_ | fireba11: any luck? |
| 10:14.25 | CAiRO | in which package is it? apt-cache search dos2unix bringt no results :| |
| 10:14.39 | CAiRO | i'll try apt-file |
| 10:14.45 | jengelh | Sometimes I think debian is stupid. |
| 10:14.48 | jengelh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.51 | jengelh | Can anyone explain that? |
| 10:15.33 | azeem | jengelh: if you start off with "debian is stupid" chances are good people will just ignore you |
| 10:16.12 | azeem | jengelh: is this from a package, or your stuff you compiled yourself? |
| 10:16.14 | jengelh | Sorry. But it really pisses me off to see compilations fail for something unbelievable. |
| 10:16.41 | azeem | unbelievable? |
| 10:16.46 | jengelh | debian's gcc and binutils default to produce -m32 code everywhere, so I added '--oformat elf64-sparc' to a /usr/bin/ld call |
| 10:17.13 | azeem | are you sure this is the right way to do that? |
| 10:17.28 | jengelh | from looking at the manpages... |
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| 10:18.35 | jengelh | The .o files (as far as I have produced them now), are all 64-bit ELF files. |
| 10:18.39 | jengelh | So far so good. |
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| 10:19.46 | TwIzTiD | hiiii all security geeks |
| 10:19.58 | azeem | jengelh: maybe try to ask in #debian-sparc |
| 10:19.59 | TwIzTiD | i m amit from lightningfire security team |
| 10:20.00 | jm_ | !drec jm_ |
| 10:20.01 | dpkg | $1 : dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config # Run it as root |
| 10:20.04 | jm_ | huh |
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| 10:20.18 | TwIzTiD | okease visit us |
| 10:20.21 | TwIzTiD | friends |
| 10:20.29 | TwIzTiD | www.lightningfire.org |
| 10:20.39 | Myon | TwIzTiD: plese stop spamming |
| 10:20.40 | TwIzTiD | i jus started this project on 4 |
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| 10:20.48 | ShadowJK | Hello security team. Can you help me with our problem that is unsolicited advertising and spam? |
| 10:20.50 | TwIzTiD | i m not a spammer frd |
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| 10:21.06 | azeem | TwIzTiD: please stop spamming |
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| 10:21.27 | azeem | TwIzTiD: you have been silenced for 10 minuts |
| 10:21.54 | Myon | TwIzTiD: no private query please |
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| 10:23.15 | dealt | greetings! |
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| 10:24.18 | dealt | im trying to install a package via apt. doing a apt-cache showpkg, it shows that there is 2 available version of that package on my defined sources |
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| 10:24.38 | dealt | how can i tell apt to install the latest version? |
| 10:24.59 | azeem | apt-get install <package> |
| 10:25.11 | dealt | how do i know wat version will apt get if i do 'apt-get install <package>' |
| 10:25.12 | lord_rob | dealt: it should by default install the latest version |
| 10:25.53 | lord_rob | dealt: do you have both sid and testing repositories by any chance ? |
| 10:25.55 | nkuttler | dealt: apt-cache policy, or check apt-get --simulate |
| 10:26.27 | dealt | lord_rob: hmmn, im on ubuntu actually |
| 10:26.31 | dealt | nkuttler: thanks |
| 10:26.55 | atsi | i would like to setup a local repository for a lan with no access to the net. some machines running sarge and other's ubuntu. i got access to a speedy mirror, but it is not connected to the LAN. is there any way to get all the files to setup the mirror, manually? if yes, then how can i check for updates on that mirror? |
| 10:27.57 | nkuttler | atsi: check apt-proxy? |
| 10:28.22 | fireba11 | jm_ not so far .. i noticed the message is generated at :17 ... had something else to do so i missed that time .. will try in an hour |
| 10:29.16 | atsi | nkuttler: in which machine? the one that has net connection is running fedora core5. |
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| 10:29.40 | pipeline | atsi: The "apt-mirror" script is useful |
| 10:29.49 | jm_ | fireba11: yeah that's cron hourly |
| 10:30.12 | fireba11 | jm_ thought it would run :0 somehow ^^ |
| 10:30.15 | stoned | hi, i was studying for my biology test, and I had this sudden thought/question and its extremely offtopic, feel free to tell me to shut up, but this is bugging the hell out of me, I looked this up ont he net and was unable to find an answer. What tells/makes the sperm cells swim to the egg? sure the dna contains gene information, but what tells the thing to do what it does? |
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| 10:30.21 | fireba11 | jm_ off to lunch break now :-) |
| 10:30.37 | spielmann | Hello. I'm rather new to Debian. I've set it up in German (all German locales). I was wondering if there's some way to keep the German locales but at the same time be able to see programs in Russian (those that have Russian translation) |
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| 10:30.57 | azeem | spielmann: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 10:31.00 | adrakoa | hi |
| 10:31.01 | azeem | spielmann: add a russian locle |
| 10:31.04 | azeem | locale |
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| 10:31.25 | azeem | spielmann: then, start programs with LANG=ru foo or so from a terminal to get russian tranlsations |
| 10:31.56 | stoned | *sigh* mysteries of life... away I go |
| 10:32.05 | spielmann | azeem, ah.. so I should always set the "LANG" variable to "ru" if I wish to start a program with Russian... hmmm. thx for the tip! |
| 10:32.17 | azeem | spielmann: I think so, yes |
| 10:33.01 | spielmann | azeem, the thing is that with my Java programs I also need to set the "LANG" variable to "ru" if I want the russian keyboard to work properly :S I thought I might have been doing something wrong |
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| 10:33.30 | azeem | spielmann: hrm |
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| 10:33.47 | azeem | spielmann: the java programs change the keyboard layout themselves? |
| 10:34.10 | spielmann | azeem, hmm.. I have a key combination in Gnome that can change the keyboard (German<->Russian) |
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| 10:36.11 | adrakoa | does somebody work Google Earth in wine? |
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| 10:41.07 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:41.07 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:44.04 | marsje | jm_: what is the package name for the default cron package for debian (testing)? |
| 10:44.15 | jm_ | marsje: cron :) |
| 10:44.39 | liable | how can i archive copy /etc over rsync without being root? and then back again. i remember trying this, but iirc being root was the only real way to do it. |
| 10:45.07 | marsje | jm_: thanks :-) |
| 10:45.20 | marsje | jm_: reinstall is apt-get remove; apt-get install? |
| 10:45.38 | liable | install --reinstall |
| 10:45.47 | jm_ | marsje: no, aptitude reinstall foo or apt-get -reinstall install foo |
| 10:46.02 | marsje | jm_: debian is sooo simple ;-) |
| 10:46.06 | jm_ | looks like I managed to fuck up dpkg a bit ;( |
| 10:46.27 | liable | you broke dpkg? shame on you :) |
| 10:46.39 | jm_ | one bit |
| 10:47.12 | liable | jm_: i shudder to think what don has thought if he has seen some of the things i have done to dpkg :) |
| 10:47.30 | liable | or tried to do.. |
| 10:48.00 | jm_ | liable: hehe, it took me about 50 attempts to get it right (it looks like the syntax changed, because people have used my way a while ago) |
| 10:48.43 | liable | jm_: i just hope he doesnt read the logs to seriously :) |
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| 10:51.07 | liable | meh, i dont want to make a root key for rsync. |
| 10:51.10 | lewis22 | jm_: is this correct: ps auxw| sed "s/ \+/ /g" | cut -d" " -f6,11- | sort -k1 | tail -5 |
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| 10:51.48 | marsje | cron stuff is working again... thanks |
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| 10:53.04 | marsje | I put a script of my own in /etc/cron.daily/. Will this automatically get executed? |
| 10:53.28 | aidan | yes |
| 10:53.48 | marsje | at what time? |
| 10:54.29 | ft | marsje: look at /etc/crontab |
| 10:54.36 | lewis22 | where did that weiss guy go? |
| 10:54.40 | aidan | marsje: have a look at /etc/crontab |
| 10:54.43 | aidan | doh |
| 10:54.53 | marsje | ehm |
| 10:54.55 | marsje | 6.25? |
| 10:55.11 | ft | marsje: if 'run-parts --list /etc/cron.daily' lists your script, it will get executed |
| 10:55.16 | aidan | marsje: is that possibly a question we can know the answer to? |
| 10:55.24 | marsje | yes, I see it now |
| 10:55.27 | jm_ | lewis22: why so complicated? |
| 10:55.31 | marsje | I could even know... |
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| 10:58.19 | lewis22 | weiss' command, ps auxw| sed "s/ \+/ /g" | cut -d" " -f4,11- | sort -k1 | tail -5, worked, although gave me mem percentage, and the full command/options. I am trying to get just the mem in bytes, and just the command, like 'apache', or 'bash', etc. |
| 10:58.50 | lewis22 | I tried editing the fields that are cut, from -f4,11-, to -f6,11-, though this didn't give the correct results |
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| 10:59.08 | Cicero_ | hi all |
| 10:59.22 | marsje | is this a good way to backup my mail? tar cvf /mnt/backup/mail-marcel.bz2 --bzip2 ~marcel/Maildir |
| 10:59.24 | jm_ | lewis22: ps -o pid,vsz,comm --sort vsz a |
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| 11:00.34 | lewis22 | is vsz virtual? |
| 11:01.02 | jm_ | yes |
| 11:01.13 | lewis22 | what is the acronym for real? |
| 11:01.35 | marsje | r.e.a.l. ;) |
| 11:01.45 | lewis22 | nvm actually |
| 11:01.50 | jm_ | wRSS is resident size if that's what you want |
| 11:01.55 | jm_ | uhh RSS |
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| 11:02.48 | lewis22 | what does the 'a' option do at the end? |
| 11:02.54 | lewis22 | 'all'? |
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| 11:03.18 | jm_ | it's -A, man page will tell you what it does |
| 11:03.32 | jm_ | sorry, it should be -A |
| 11:03.34 | lewis22 | ok |
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| 11:03.47 | lewis22 | and, is it possible to remove the header, or I guess I can do that with perl |
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| 11:04.02 | jm_ | h = no header |
| 11:04.09 | jm_ | so yes,it's possible |
| 11:04.33 | evaded | Hi guys, I have an DI-624 router that i want to add to my existing network. My current network; I have a computer (webserver/gateway/router/firewall) with one network card connected to the ISP and the second network card to an switch of 8 ports. All the clients to the switch. How suggest you that i place my router? |
| 11:05.06 | jm_ | well what is the purpose of the router? |
| 11:05.25 | SlayerXP | evaded: place it in the cupboard. |
| 11:06.08 | evaded | jm_: It's only to have wifi access for the laptops. The router not need to do a special task, my computer router do good the job |
| 11:06.36 | evaded | SlayerXP: cupboard? |
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| 11:06.48 | JiCh | how do i open .mdb files under linux ? |
| 11:07.14 | SlayerXP | evaded: correct. |
| 11:07.52 | evaded | SlayerXP: What mean you? |
| 11:07.53 | citral | JiCh: you didn't try apt-cache search mdb? |
| 11:07.53 | SlayerXP | JiCh: what a .mdb file? |
| 11:07.53 | jm_ | evaded: then simply use it as switch and connect it to the switch I guess |
| 11:07.53 | evaded | JiCh: Depend what you mean with open. |
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| 11:07.53 | aidan | JiCh: vi your.mdb |
| 11:07.54 | JiCh | mircosoft data base file |
| 11:08.00 | evaded | JiCh: apt-cache search mdb |
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| 11:08.08 | JiCh | aidan its a win32 format file |
| 11:08.11 | JiCh | yeah i did. |
| 11:08.15 | evaded | JiCh: mdbtools - JET / MS Access database (MDB) tools |
| 11:08.23 | JiCh | yes ? |
| 11:08.33 | JiCh | whats the app names? |
| 11:08.35 | JiCh | *name. |
| 11:08.42 | citral | mdbtools |
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| 11:08.47 | JiCh | cheets |
| 11:08.50 | JiCh | cheers* |
| 11:08.53 | evaded | jm_: I have try that, then config the router that the ougoing the ip is of the debian router |
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| 11:09.33 | evaded | JiCh: apt-cache show mdbtools |
| 11:09.39 | JiCh | ty |
| 11:10.01 | lewis22 | ps -o vsz,comm --sort vsz -A --no-heading | head -5 |
| 11:10.05 | evaded | JiCh: Read the description of it |
| 11:10.11 | lewis22 | jm_: this is really coming along - thanks a lot mate |
| 11:10.28 | jm_ | evaded: there should be no need to, it would just work as a switch |
| 11:10.52 | evaded | jm_: I plug it in an normal port of the switch? |
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| 11:10.59 | evaded | jm_: Or the uplink? |
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| 11:11.57 | iopt | howto start/stop openssh ? |
| 11:12.19 | jm_ | evaded: no, uplink is to connect that switch to another one, I would use normal port |
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| 11:12.31 | evaded | jm_: Ok :-) |
| 11:12.52 | jm_ | evaded: then again, this may not work and you may have to do it as you said (set default gateway) |
| 11:12.55 | iopt | howto start/stop openssh ? |
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| 11:13.24 | evaded | jm_: On my laptop i set been the gateway = router? |
| 11:13.49 | jm_ | evaded: or maybe just connect one of the standard (not the external interface) ports to the switch like another computer if that won't work |
| 11:13.52 | evaded | iopt: /etc/init.d/openssh start/stop/restart?? |
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| 11:14.33 | evaded | jm_: I try it now ;-) |
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| 11:16.13 | iopt | this does not work |
| 11:16.31 | iopt | ssh: start: Name or service not known |
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| 11:17.31 | iopt | anyone? |
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| 11:17.39 | jm_ | it's not openssh, just ssh |
| 11:17.58 | evaded | iopt: Look in '/etc/init.d/' i'm not sure if that's the good name and also that ather are an service running |
| 11:18.30 | evaded | hhhmmm. he mean ssh :-) |
| 11:19.13 | honschu | Is there a program to create a nice view (*.png ?) of c++ classes. |
| 11:19.16 | trouble | I got a debian server with 2gb swap, I dont really need it and wanted to format it with ext3 to get some extra hd space.. can I just mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda2? or do I have to change some configs before? |
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| 11:19.38 | honschu | trouble: Do you really want to do that? |
| 11:19.57 | evaded | jm_: like that router are now connected to the switch, from a client of the network normallaly a can ping it?? |
| 11:20.11 | trouble | yes, I mostly use my server for web/ftp |
| 11:20.27 | trouble | load is always 0.00 :) |
| 11:20.49 | jm_ | evaded: if things are configured properly |
| 11:21.00 | karsten_ | honschu, Doxygen creates some class diagrams |
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| 11:21.15 | evaded | jm_: hhhmmm, and like it not work here ... :-( |
| 11:21.17 | kapowaz | hullo there. today's asinine apt dependency craziness: |
| 11:21.26 | kapowaz | trying to install php5-gd |
| 11:21.28 | honschu | karsten_: I didn't included Doxygen to my code - do I have to? |
| 11:21.31 | kapowaz | and it wants to remove apcupsd |
| 11:21.39 | kapowaz | my UPS controller daemon |
| 11:21.59 | kapowaz | ....how in god's name is an uninterruptible power supply related to a web-based graphics library? |
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| 11:22.17 | karsten_ | no, doxygen is a code documentation system, it parses your code |
| 11:22.31 | honschu | trouble: So check /etc/fstab - do swapoff - and format the device |
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| 11:23.31 | fluxdude | I've got a linux box that just will not talk gigabit despite having a gigabit card, gigabit cable and wall port. lspci shows the card as: |
| 11:23.34 | trouble | honschu: ok, thanks |
| 11:23.35 | fluxdude | 00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Altima (nee Broadcom) AC9100 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 15) |
| 11:23.42 | ongeboren | hi, how can I determine if my debian unstables uses initrd and where the init script should be? I need to add one command there in order to make suspend2 work ? |
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| 11:25.06 | tralala | does the rt2500 driver need an external firmware? |
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| 11:25.18 | weissi | !rt2500 |
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| 11:27.25 | kesara_ | Hello, I'm planing to install Dabian over net.. Does it compile everything like Gentoo or does it uses binaries? |
| 11:27.44 | jm_ | binaries |
| 11:28.03 | kesara_ | jm_: k. thx |
| 11:28.10 | karsten_ | tralala, no, I have just compiled it myself |
| 11:28.16 | jm_ | but you can easily compile things if you want |
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| 11:28.36 | karsten_ | I have trouble getting it to load automatically now, though... :P |
| 11:29.23 | jm_ | onger;you can check your boot loader config file |
| 11:29.39 | jm_ | ongeboren ^^^^ |
| 11:30.30 | fluxdude | speaking of binaries and compiling, how do I download and compile the debian stuff so I can get it to at least i686 instead of i386... |
| 11:30.31 | liable | grr |
| 11:30.58 | evaded | jm_: Hi guy, i think i have found what's happend, i ping the router now and he reply :-) |
| 11:31.11 | ongeboren | jm_, there is an initrd=... line (it's grub) but according to the kernel docs there should also be an initrd script, which i cannot find.. |
| 11:32.10 | jm_ | ongeboren: what docs are you referring to? |
| 11:32.14 | jm_ | evaded: ok good |
| 11:32.54 | evaded | jm_: You have set me on the right way man ;-) Really thanks for you're server man :-) |
| 11:32.54 | lucox | how can i correct this error ? : W: GPG error: http://xoomer.virgilio.it ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3DCCCCACE46F104F |
| 11:33.04 | ongeboren | jm_, Documentation/initrd.txt from the kernel source |
| 11:33.13 | jm_ | ongeboren: you mean linuxrc script? |
| 11:33.24 | jm_ | evaded: no worries |
| 11:33.51 | evaded | jm_: ;-) |
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| 11:34.14 | ongeboren | jm_, mm yes, at least suspend2 refers to linuxrc |
| 11:34.16 | lord_rob | lucox: check http://xoomer.virgilio.it |
| 11:34.53 | jm_ | ongeboren: right, that's in the initrd image itself ;) |
| 11:35.18 | evaded | jm_: He guy, i get Internet trought the wifi (router), Case done! :-) |
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| 11:35.54 | lord_rob | lucox: ati debian packages are now part of debian (non-free) |
| 11:35.55 | fjgaspar | helo |
| 11:35.56 | Stevie-O | 250 Stevie-O |
| 11:36.03 | fjgaspar | i need help |
| 11:36.07 | ongeboren | jm_, suspend2 says to add a command to linuxrc or similar if initrd is used.. and this command must be executed before the real root is mounted.. and i'm lost now, i have no idea where to add this line or if i should do it.. |
| 11:36.08 | lucox | lord_rob : thnx |
| 11:36.32 | fireba11 | jm_ take a look at #flood please .. it seems to be running that line sorta twice |
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| 11:36.38 | lord_rob | lucox: you must use testing or unstable tough |
| 11:36.50 | fjgaspar | I can't get debian to install in an lc 2000 server because of the netraid card |
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| 11:37.07 | jm_ | fireba11: can you paste it on some pastebin? |
| 11:37.29 | fireba11 | jm_ of course, wait a sec ... you want all fo it or just the interesting lines ? :-) |
| 11:38.12 | jm_ | ongeboren: do you mean resume= option? |
| 11:38.22 | jm_ | fireba11: well try just what you think is relevant for now |
| 11:38.22 | trouble | # swapoff /dev/hda2 |
| 11:38.22 | trouble | swapoff: /dev/hda2: Cannot allocate memory |
| 11:38.26 | trouble | hm :( |
| 11:38.33 | lucox | lord_rob : i have an error by upgrading fglrx-driver ... how could i correct ? |
| 11:39.00 | tralala | karsten_: but it loads manually? |
| 11:39.18 | fireba11 | jm_ http://pastebin.com/645850 |
| 11:39.47 | karsten_ | tralala, yes |
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| 11:40.16 | karsten_ | I dunno why it doesn't accept my configuration |
| 11:40.20 | fjgaspar | I can't get debian to install in an lc 2000 server because of the netraid card |
| 11:40.29 | tralala | karsten_: so I probably need a newer version for my level one card. Thanks. |
| 11:40.30 | fjgaspar | any help please? |
| 11:40.36 | jm_ | fireba11: unfortunatelly this doesn't cover it |
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| 11:40.58 | karsten_ | tralala, wget http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2500-cvs-daily.tar.gz |
| 11:41.06 | fireba11 | jm_ then you need more lines abouve that i guess ? |
| 11:41.29 | jm_ | fireba11: hard to say, how big is the entire file? |
| 11:41.30 | ongeboren | jm_, "echo > /proc/suspend2/do_resume" this is the command.. I avoided resume= by putting an option in the kernel config for it |
| 11:41.34 | lewis22 | jm_: what is the cpu acronym for 'ps -o'? |
| 11:41.46 | jm_ | lewis22: I have no idea what you're asking me |
| 11:42.18 | lewis22 | well, the real memory acronym was rss, the virtual was vsz |
| 11:42.34 | lewis22 | what is the CPU one? |
| 11:43.04 | jm_ | ongeboren: you could simply place it in /etc/mkinitrd/files and then have a script that will make sure it's executed (see /etc/mkinitrd/scripts) |
| 11:43.11 | jm_ | you mean for CPU usage? |
| 11:43.19 | lewis22 | yup :) |
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| 11:43.54 | jm_ | lewis22: STANDARD FORMAT SPECIFIERS in "man ps" lists them all |
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| 11:45.01 | lewis22 | genius! |
| 11:45.16 | SlayerXP | no, he's estonian |
| 11:45.30 | SlayerXP | or some other wacky east europen country-ian |
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| 11:45.59 | jm_ | either way, far away from isolated island called England ;) |
| 11:46.19 | SlayerXP | jm_: me too |
| 11:46.27 | jm_ | SlayerXP: doh, forgot :P |
| 11:46.30 | SlayerXP | :) |
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| 11:47.16 | SlayerXP | jm_: it occurs to me, we've been talking for, uuuh, 7 or 8 years? |
| 11:47.26 | tralala | It's funny to see Greece classified as western or central european country while being place more east than many eastern european countries. |
| 11:47.28 | SlayerXP | more, pherpas |
| 11:47.30 | SlayerXP | perhaps |
| 11:47.53 | fireba11 | jm_ somehow it seems it's doing almost everything twice to me |
| 11:47.54 | jm_ | SlayerXP: definitely 1998 |
| 11:48.10 | SlayerXP | jm_: okay. I have still no idea what you look like. |
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| 11:48.35 | jm_ | fireba11: why? |
| 11:49.10 | jm_ | SlayerXP: I have no pics online, some feller once had photos of Hungaroring F1 race back when Hill was still racing |
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| 11:49.30 | fireba11 | jm_ most of the lines in the sctrace appear twice |
| 11:49.34 | SlayerXP | jm_: we have these things called "scanners" |
| 11:49.56 | dimir | :-D |
| 11:49.58 | jm_ | SlayerXP: add lazy people to equation ... :) |
| 11:50.04 | trouble | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2323 - can anyone help me with that? |
| 11:50.51 | tarzeau | trouble: free -m says what? |
| 11:50.59 | jm_ | fireba11: yeah actually, good that you pointed it out, the part on pastebin is pretty interesting |
| 11:51.12 | jm_ | FireBlade: tried grep -r hourly /etc/cron* |
| 11:51.16 | isa | anyone have the time to help configure my nvidia card correctly? |
| 11:51.16 | jm_ | fireba11 ^^^^^^ |
| 11:51.21 | evaded | How many of computer with wifi can connect to an wifi router? I not see the maximum of amount, i only see 4 RJ45 ports, but there are not talked of how many other wifi computers can connect it. Is it unlimited? |
| 11:51.27 | tarzeau | trouble: does dmesg say anything? |
| 11:51.28 | trouble | tarzeau: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2324 |
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| 11:51.41 | weissi | evaded, I think wlan max. was 255 |
| 11:51.42 | menko | hey, does anyone know what architecture celeron coppermine would be called for apt-build? |
| 11:51.42 | ongeboren | jm_, the scripts in /etc/mkinitrd/scripts will be executed before the real root is mounted, right ? |
| 11:51.57 | fireba11 | i'm getting only one entry back |
| 11:52.07 | trouble | __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) |
| 11:52.08 | tralala | trouble: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 11:52.17 | jm_ | ongeboren: no, they are run before final initred is created |
| 11:52.18 | menko | I was thinking pentium 3, or pentium3m |
| 11:52.19 | jm_ | initrd |
| 11:52.28 | fjgaspar | I can't get debian to install in an lc 2000 server because of the netraid card |
| 11:52.28 | evaded | weissi: Serious, can i connect so many other computer to my network? crazy, but i need to pay mega attention then |
| 11:52.30 | fjgaspar | any help please? |
| 11:52.31 | jm_ | fireba11: so it must be somewhere else, try /var/spool/cron |
| 11:52.38 | trouble | tralala: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2325 |
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| 11:53.15 | fireba11 | still only one line |
| 11:53.16 | weissi | evaded, I think wlan can (theoretically) connect 255 computers, but performance you get: no idea :-) |
| 11:53.20 | karsten_ | tralala, everything around the mediterran sea is... |
| 11:53.34 | weissi | evaded, why do you need to pay "mega attention"? |
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| 11:54.06 | jm_ | fireball;then strace will tell you where it reads it from |
| 11:54.09 | karsten_ | weissi, 254, because 255 is the broadcast address |
| 11:54.09 | evaded | weissi: Actually that router are on a 100Mbps :-P |
| 11:54.14 | lewis22 | jm_: last question for today, honest. On a SMP system, what is a command to display current CPU usuage. I just need a simple output like: 51.4 CPU0, 12.4 CPU1 |
| 11:54.21 | weissi | evaded, ok :-) |
| 11:54.26 | tralala | trouble: perhaps you have too many programmes using the memory and they cannot fit in the RAM so the swap is still in use |
| 11:54.30 | fireba11 | jm_ having a look |
| 11:54.37 | evaded | weissi: I go to burn that cable :-) |
| 11:54.41 | weissi | karsten_, where talking about wlan not about IP-protocol in a subnet 255.255.255.0 |
| 11:54.47 | trouble | hmm |
| 11:54.48 | tralala | or only one programme using too much memory |
| 11:55.05 | weissi | evaded, yep :-) but I think the wlan performance with more than 100 clients will really suck ;-) |
| 11:55.12 | jm_ | lewis22: uhh no idea about that, mayb sar can help you |
| 11:55.34 | lewis22 | jm_: ok - thanks though |
| 11:55.36 | evaded | weissi: Is good to know, it's here for home use, so no many computers |
| 11:55.38 | lewis22 | weissi: got any ideas? |
| 11:55.59 | weissi | lewis22, any ideas to what? |
| 11:56.20 | lewis22 | how to display current CPU usage on a SMP system, with a command |
| 11:56.28 | weissi | evaded, good :-) I think if you really have _MANY_ computers you should consider buying more than one AP |
| 11:56.29 | jm_ | fireba11: CMD ( run-parts --report and CMD (root run-parts --report suggest this is somehow read twice |
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| 11:56.43 | WebMonkey | hi guys |
| 11:56.49 | evaded | weissi: Also right ;-) |
| 11:57.00 | weissi | evaded, with one AP it must look really funny, 255 computers in a area ~30-50 meters *ggg* |
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| 11:57.20 | weissi | somegeek, I have to go now... |
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| 11:57.32 | weissi | s/somegeek,//g |
| 11:57.46 | WebMonkey | regex |
| 11:58.07 | stoned | WebMonkey, try less fragments, more coherent thoughts in fuller sentences |
| 11:58.10 | trouble | tralala: you were right, one process was using much memory, U put it off and swapoff works now, thanks |
| 11:58.17 | trouble | -U+I |
| 11:58.29 | WebMonkey | stoned: ok |
| 11:58.35 | fjgaspar | please, anybody can help me? |
| 11:58.46 | fjgaspar | I'm desperate |
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| 11:59.03 | kesara | Hello I just went through Installation-How-to part... Can I choose pkgs to be installed using Debian Installer? |
| 11:59.22 | fireba11 | jm_ updated pastebin |
| 11:59.33 | fjgaspar | I can't get debian to install in an lc 2000 server because of the netraid card |
| 11:59.34 | evaded | fjgaspar: Have you post you're problem on the Usenet? You surely get more response i guess how to proceed |
| 11:59.45 | stoned | kesara, yes you can, there will be a screen where you select the bottom most option called (manually select packages to install) watch for this screen after base system is installed |
| 12:00.09 | jm_ | fireba11: looks the same to me |
| 12:00.15 | fjgaspar | I don't have access from here to the usenet |
| 12:00.24 | fjgaspar | but anyway,thanks |
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| 12:00.45 | evaded | fjgaspar: Try to gain access, or via webform or via ... |
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| 12:01.10 | evaded | fjgaspar: i guess you have google it |
| 12:01.10 | fireba11 | jm_ http://pastebin.com/645885 |
| 12:01.16 | kesara | stoned: So I can choose Gnome their.. right? |
| 12:01.24 | stoned | kesara, yes you can |
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| 12:01.45 | jm_ | fireba11: did you try to find stirng hourly in the file? |
| 12:01.48 | jm_ | string* |
| 12:02.20 | stoned | kesara, well it says intall desktop env. as far as i can remember, can anyone confirm this, does it have two options for kde and gnome or just one that says (deskto env.) |
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| 12:02.40 | fireba11 | jm_ i checked the 3 cron.d files and crobtab for it .. it's only once in crontab ... what's that crontabs entry in the 3rd line ? |
| 12:02.59 | stoned | kesara, you can always just install the base system, then at the comamdn line, apt-get install gnome |
| 12:03.08 | WebMonkey | you guys have the knowledge but also know how to use it |
| 12:03.09 | kesara | stoned: k.. itz fine. thx. |
| 12:03.10 | jm_ | fireba11: no, I meant in strace output, I was just going to ask you where does it find file crontabs? |
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| 12:03.27 | fireba11 | ah okay |
| 12:03.36 | launch | hi, an alternatif to unrar program? apt-cache search unrar dont show anything |
| 12:03.50 | cahoot | launch: rar? |
| 12:03.50 | jes-o-mat | dpkg udev |
| 12:03.50 | jm_ | !tell launch -about non-free |
| 12:03.50 | dpkg | somebody said udev was at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
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| 12:04.00 | kesara | does the Debian have an option to choose Gnome-light instead of full Gnome version? |
| 12:04.06 | stoned | launch, you need to add contrib non-free to your resources list |
| 12:04.11 | bedboi | all sid users should not dist-upgrade |
| 12:04.16 | jm_ | kesara: no, but you can install individual packages |
| 12:04.21 | bedboi | you will end up to a screwed-up system |
| 12:04.27 | bedboi | libc6 is broken |
| 12:04.28 | launch | stoned well i need to pay |
| 12:04.33 | stoned | kesara, apt-get install gnome-core |
| 12:04.50 | WebMonkey | I've just rediscovered Gnome, I really like it now |
| 12:04.56 | stoned | launch, no, its free, its just under a non-free liscence |
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| 12:05.05 | stoned | launch, no thats wrong, something along those lines though |
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| 12:05.14 | launch | free in the sens of source code |
| 12:05.15 | launch | ? |
| 12:05.16 | stoned | launch, but you don't have to pay |
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| 12:05.25 | stoned | launch, yes, no source |
| 12:05.34 | launch | ok thanks |
| 12:05.39 | azeem | launch: stuff in non-free is freely distributable, but not free software |
| 12:05.40 | WebMonkey | seems reasonable |
| 12:06.09 | jm_ | there is source for unrar |
| 12:06.17 | WebMonkey | those guys gotta pay the wages afterall eh |
| 12:06.29 | WebMonkey | not everyone can code for free |
| 12:06.35 | stoned | yes, usually its good to apt-get intall rar unrar zip unzip bzip2 arj |
| 12:06.37 | stoned | :) |
| 12:06.37 | azeem | let's not get into this discussion, please |
| 12:06.46 | kesara | jm_: stoned: K, I'll look in to it.. thx. (Still downloading the netinst-iso :) |
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| 12:08.06 | loca|host | hello |
| 12:08.12 | branneman | hello |
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| 12:08.26 | loca|host | i've just partitioned my /dev/hdd1 hard disk into two partitions of 10-10 Gb |
| 12:08.30 | WebMonkey | I have a chicken and egg situation here, I've got Deb on my lappy, and just fitted a wireless nic in it, but I can't use it since its not supported in Deb kernel, yet I cant download anything to make it go, because I need to go online. How to do? |
| 12:08.41 | loca|host | when doind fdisk -l /dev/hdd1 , i get : |
| 12:08.42 | menko | bedboi: thanks I'll keep that in mind |
| 12:09.01 | loca|host | /dev/hdd1p1 1 18000 9071968+ 83 Linux |
| 12:09.01 | loca|host | /dev/hdd1p2 18001 38791 10478664 83 Linux |
| 12:09.23 | karsten_ | WebMonkey, use a cable network card or a removable media like CDs or an usb stick? |
| 12:09.25 | loca|host | but i dont get /dev/hdd1p1 and /dev/hdd1p2 in /dev folder |
| 12:09.26 | azeem | WebMonkey: do you have ethernet? |
| 12:09.40 | loca|host | how to fsck.ext3 these partitions |
| 12:09.57 | branneman | you have to mount them |
| 12:10.00 | WebMonkey | I dont have a cabled card anymore, I gave it away to someone. but I guess I could buy another |
| 12:10.03 | saloxin | loca|host: cat /proc/partittions |
| 12:10.20 | saloxin | er, cat /proc/partitions |
| 12:10.21 | WebMonkey | cd media is a possibility, but my cdrw is in a windose machine, can it read it still in Linux? |
| 12:10.39 | azeem | WebMonkey: sure, the file system is the same |
| 12:10.43 | WebMonkey | cool! |
| 12:10.46 | azeem | ISO or joliet |
| 12:10.59 | WebMonkey | can Linux read rewriteable media? |
| 12:11.21 | WebMonkey | thats the only media i have right now |
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| 12:11.37 | karsten_ | the only question is, can your cd drive read it |
| 12:11.40 | WebMonkey | damn I miss X on my laptop |
| 12:11.59 | WebMonkey | I'm having to use XP since last Dec |
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| 12:12.24 | WebMonkey | karsten_: well my cd drive in lappy is just a bog standard, will it read it as a regular cd still? |
| 12:13.29 | WebMonkey | I got so many problems to fix today :-/ I had a perfect setup last year, then i switched my wifi nic and my nfs went down last month |
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| 12:14.13 | WebMonkey | I think I would like to fix the NFS issue before I tackle the wifi card |
| 12:14.23 | darkness_ | Hi, i've just received this in my daily msg's any reason to worry? |
| 12:14.27 | darkness_ | /etc/cron.daily/chkrootkit: |
| 12:14.27 | WebMonkey | since my laptop is setup to mount the home on my server |
| 12:14.27 | darkness_ | eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient[1088]) |
| 12:14.28 | lewis22 | what are the commands to cut out columns of information? |
| 12:14.40 | karsten_ | WebMonkey, it should, do a quickformat first |
| 12:14.49 | jengelh | darkness: that's your dhcp client, dude. |
| 12:14.51 | karsten_ | lewis22, grep ? |
| 12:14.53 | WebMonkey | karsten_: ok thanx I will make a note of that |
| 12:15.01 | azeem | lewis22: or cut -c |
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| 12:15.15 | sylow | when doing hdparm -i /dev/hdc , I have Model=Slimtype COMBO LSC-24081M <-- so this is the Model from the Drive, correct? |
| 12:15.17 | jm_ | lewis22: the easiest is awk |
| 12:15.36 | karsten_ | oh, columns, not rows... grep with regexps or awk, yeah |
| 12:15.55 | WebMonkey | I nearly got 5 hrs power out of my laptop! |
| 12:15.59 | jengelh | sylow: it says Model= |
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| 12:16.18 | lewis22 | 14:42:40 all 9.95 0.00 1.31 0.00 0.00 0.00 88.74 1487.50 |
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| 12:16.29 | sylow | jengelh: yeah the strange thing is I've mailed liteonit about an issue.. and they say that they don't have that model! |
| 12:16.40 | WebMonkey | correction, SIX hours! |
| 12:16.48 | lewis22 | there are five lines like that. I want to convert the 'all' and '9.95' to '9.95 all' |
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| 12:16.52 | lewis22 | how would I go about that? |
| 12:17.10 | WebMonkey | perl can do it |
| 12:17.20 | jm_ | sylw;see also cat /proc/ide/hdc/model |
| 12:17.26 | lewis22 | WebMonkey: ok |
| 12:17.45 | jm_ | lewis22: |awk '{print $3 $2}' |
| 12:17.48 | WebMonkey | perl is great for little jobs like this on text files |
| 12:17.52 | FauxFaux | sylow: Liteonit have branded/rebranded some of their stuff, can't remember where/why/when/ etc. |
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| 12:18.15 | jm_ | lewis22: get sed&awk book from O'Reilly, it's really good |
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| 12:18.34 | WebMonkey | rebranding from Liteon is a good idea |
| 12:18.58 | jengelh | lewis22: get the perl book from O'Reilly, it supersedes sed+awk |
| 12:19.07 | sylow | FauxFaux: but that isn't a reason to say that it isn't their model.. I don't understand |
| 12:19.08 | lewis22 | wow |
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| 12:19.24 | lewis22 | perfect (just need to sort out spacing) |
| 12:19.27 | RolandU | hi all! |
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| 12:19.33 | jm_ | that's trivial $3 " " $2 |
| 12:19.38 | karsten_ | jengelh, nooo, perl is evil :? |
| 12:19.45 | jengelh | #define evil |
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| 12:20.06 | zignig | karsten_: bleh! |
| 12:20.09 | jengelh | sort out spacing? |
| 12:20.11 | WebMonkey | perl cant be evil |
| 12:20.14 | RolandU | I am searching for a pcmcia-wlan-card that works without problems and simple installation in sarge/etch. Anyone know a good one? |
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| 12:20.30 | liable | hehe, that makes me laugh, a comment in another channel about not commenting scripts degraded into "thats why people use perl, they cant be replaced" :) |
| 12:20.35 | zignig | RolandU: prism has always been good to me. |
| 12:20.45 | pm_ | i have a gateway here, running samba, how can i see, how much internet band each user is using? |
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| 12:20.51 | jm_ | liable: how true... |
| 12:21.05 | jm_ | pm_: how exactly does samba fit into this? |
| 12:21.10 | lewis22 | mpstat -P ALL | tail -5 | awk '{print $3 " CPU-" $2}' |
| 12:21.12 | lewis22 | :) |
| 12:21.26 | zignig | pm_: add ip tables for each of their IP addreses and look at the counters :) |
| 12:21.39 | pm_ | jm_ the users are logged into a domain... |
| 12:21.50 | RolandU | zignig, prism seems to not be available in central europe |
| 12:21.58 | jm_ | pm_: no idea how that's going to help you with anything |
| 12:21.58 | WebMonkey | im suffering with glue ear |
| 12:22.10 | zignig | WebMonkey: what ? sorry can't hear you ;P |
| 12:22.17 | WebMonkey | heh :P |
| 12:22.18 | zignig | RolandU: hmmm, ebay ? |
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| 12:22.31 | zignig | WebMonkey: are you getting the large moth in your head thing ? |
| 12:22.43 | zignig | WebMonkey: i had that , it sux. |
| 12:22.55 | WebMonkey | zignig: my ear keeps being blocked and people speak to me but no sound comes from their mouths |
| 12:23.02 | WebMonkey | its quite disorientating |
| 12:23.04 | pm_ | jm_ in the iptraf window i can see my gateway IP:a samba port like 39745 |
| 12:23.10 | WebMonkey | but also quietly comforting |
| 12:23.12 | fireba11 | jm_ hm .. still can't find the reason :-( |
| 12:23.19 | karsten_ | zignig, you mean tinnitus? |
| 12:23.27 | zignig | WebMonkey: most people have nothing to say any way. |
| 12:23.27 | jm_ | pm_: you want to know how much traffic they're generating for samba or what? |
| 12:23.57 | jm_ | fireba11: did you grep for hourly? |
| 12:24.02 | zignig | karsten_: when you get glue ear, the muscle that maintaines the tension on your ear drum spasms. |
| 12:24.03 | liable | karsten_: *ring* |
| 12:24.06 | fireba11 | in the strace ? |
| 12:24.11 | jm_ | yeah in strace output |
| 12:24.26 | jm_ | fireba11: wait, I just realized it might not show it since it read it long time ago |
| 12:24.29 | WebMonkey | is glue ear common in network admins? |
| 12:24.36 | zignig | karsten_: you get a loud , whububububububububub. it scared the crap out of me the first,second and 200th time it happened. |
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| 12:24.47 | zignig | karsten_: got some strange looks ;) |
| 12:24.52 | karsten_ | heh |
| 12:25.06 | fireba11 | jm_ first entry are the send lines you got in pastebin |
| 12:25.11 | pm_ | jm_ i want to know how much traffic they are generating for the internet... |
| 12:25.16 | jm_ | fireba11: indeed |
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| 12:25.36 | jm_ | pm_: then use what zignig told you, ipac-ng might help you to make it easier |
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| 12:26.08 | liable | zignig: theres actually a muscle that maintains ear drum tightness? |
| 12:26.51 | cahoot | liable: might be m.stapedius he's thinking og |
| 12:26.56 | WebMonkey | I thought glue ear was related to skin in the ear that blocks up the ear canal and leads to hardening of wax |
| 12:27.00 | zignig | liable: yep, tympanic thingyjob. |
| 12:27.03 | zignig | liable: :) |
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| 12:27.33 | liable | haha |
| 12:27.48 | liable | i like that explanation :) |
| 12:27.56 | zignig | liable: <GRIN> |
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| 12:32.17 | zignig | *school |
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| 12:32.36 | indian | hi |
| 12:32.44 | zignig | indian: hola! |
| 12:32.53 | WebMonkey | how! |
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| 12:33.06 | liable | as funny as it sounds, debian is kinda lacking without the like of mwilson |
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| 12:33.24 | karsten_ | as funny as it sounds, #debian is kinda lacking without the like of mwilson |
| 12:33.25 | karsten_ | fixed |
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| 12:33.37 | liable | !fix karsten_ |
| 12:33.40 | WebMonkey | who is mwilsom |
| 12:33.43 | WebMonkey | *n |
| 12:34.11 | zignig | WebMonkey: some USAian who was good a debian , but a right bastard to newbies on #debian. |
| 12:34.21 | WebMonkey | hehe |
| 12:34.39 | zignig | WebMonkey: not that is a bad thing all things considered. P.S. you suck. ;P |
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| 12:34.52 | WebMonkey | what about greycat |
| 12:35.00 | liable | gone too.. |
| 12:35.04 | WebMonkey | :-/ |
| 12:35.11 | liable | !fable |
| 12:35.11 | dpkg | from memory, fable is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
| 12:35.13 | zignig | karsten_: is that you ? or an imposter with an underscore ? |
| 12:35.35 | karsten_ | I dunno, I guess I am me |
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| 12:35.38 | lucox | i have problem with upgrading of : manpages-dev, or installing anyway ... |
| 12:35.42 | karsten_ | some others might have the same first name, though |
| 12:35.47 | liable | k_god?? |
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| 12:36.20 | zignig | karsten_: do you know what bleh! implies ? |
| 12:36.24 | JMilton | hi there, debian newbie here. after a dist-upgrade (stable to testing) postgresql wasn't reinstalled. i removed it: apt-get remove postgresql, rm -r /{etc,var/lib}/postgresql (i wanted to get rid of the config files to start from scratch with postgres 8.1). Now whatever I do the conf files don't seem to get reinstalled. what should i do? |
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| 12:36.33 | indian | can somebody help me in evolution? when i start it, it's stopped, and i can't do nothing with it. when i start it from command line, with 'evolution -v' i get the error message: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed |
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| 12:36.52 | liable | JMilton: why did you remove the configs?? |
| 12:36.59 | azeem | indian: do you run testing? |
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| 12:37.09 | indian | azeem, yes |
| 12:37.14 | liable | JMilton: why did you think that was a good idea? |
| 12:37.33 | azeem | indian: see http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/evolution-and-new-glib-2006-03-30-19-11 |
| 12:37.56 | indian | thanks |
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| 12:38.40 | liable | !tell JMilton about confmiss |
| 12:38.45 | JMilton | liable: i didn't, but my backup involved xargs and mv and utterly failed (left me with plain files instead a dir structure). |
| 12:38.51 | loca|host | howto to precise the partition size when creating a new partition with fdisk |
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| 12:38.58 | JMilton | liable: thanks |
| 12:38.58 | loca|host | Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK (1-2434, default 2434): |
| 12:39.15 | loca|host | how to specify the partition size in Megabyte |
| 12:39.17 | indian | azeem, but it's interesting, that after the system install i have it upgraded, and it works. and after the latest apt-get upgrade, it's going wrong... :( |
| 12:39.31 | liable | JMilton: you may need to create the dirs if it doesnt work. |
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| 12:40.16 | liable | loca|host: try cfdisk, bit more user friendly. |
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| 12:41.28 | h--m | hi |
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| 12:42.18 | h--m | i have a one question |
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| 12:42.42 | xanax` | h--m : go on |
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| 12:44.09 | h--m | i would instalation kiosk with Debian os, i serc the document for trhis |
| 12:44.38 | wdamn | Hi, how can I write my passphrase at login time? |
| 12:44.49 | gary | Does anyone know chich web browser for GNU/Linux works most like MSIE. I am a web developer and it's annoying when working and then showing someone and suddenly theres small errors and weird layouts compared to Firefox. |
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| 12:44.55 | gary | I think it may be Opera is most like it |
| 12:45.11 | jm_ | wdamn: what? |
| 12:45.20 | entuall | gary, you emulate ie6 with wine |
| 12:45.33 | entuall | gary, no ? |
| 12:45.34 | attabui | gary: your best option there is to actually run IE with either wine or in a windows VM |
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| 12:46.04 | abrotman | gary: why are you coding for IE? .. code to standards |
| 12:46.17 | abrotman | gary: and ask #web |
| 12:46.18 | wdamn | jm_: I want my passphrase available when I login in X session |
| 12:46.19 | stew | if only it were that simple |
| 12:46.30 | stew | wdamn: are you talking about your ssh keys? |
| 12:46.34 | wdamn | jm_: I don't want to repeat it each time I need |
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| 12:46.37 | jm_ | wdamn: use ssh-agent |
| 12:46.43 | wdamn | stew: yes |
| 12:46.47 | liable | gary: try running it in wine or crossover |
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| 12:46.58 | entuall | abrotman, even if you code with standards, you need to see the result for ie |
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| 12:47.02 | wdamn | jm_: how can I connect ssh-agent with my login manager? |
| 12:47.07 | stew | wdamn: ssh-agent should be started by xsession for you, run "ssh-add -i /path/to/id" |
| 12:47.30 | lucox | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/manpages-dev_2.25-1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man2/create_module.2.gz', which is also in package modutils |
| 12:47.30 | dpkg | lucox: what are you talking about? |
| 12:47.31 | jm_ | wdamn: it's started by default in standard X sessions cript |
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| 12:48.14 | wdamn | jm_: stew so when Should I be asked for my passphrase? |
| 12:48.19 | liable | lucox: check bts for manpages-dev, you can force it if you know what you are doing. |
| 12:48.27 | stew | wdamn: when you run ssh-add to add the key to ssh-agent |
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| 12:48.47 | jm_ | wdamn: you can also use ssh-askpass |
| 12:48.51 | lucox | liable: bts ? |
| 12:49.02 | WebMonkey | RPC: Unable to receive: errno = Connection Refused. (when trying to mount nfs fs) |
| 12:49.16 | JMilton | liable: about confmiss, i tried creating the missing dirs (/etc/postgresql, /var/lib/postgresql) and it still doesn't work. i tried --reinstall and also remove and then install. how can I be sure that dpkg is getting the right params from apt-get? what should i do? |
| 12:49.18 | WebMonkey | services running, confirmed on server and from client |
| 12:49.20 | WebMonkey | any ideas? |
| 12:49.52 | wdamn | stew: so I only need to run ssh-add once, and every login will ask my passphrase? |
| 12:49.56 | stew | lucox: what version of modutils do you have installed? |
| 12:50.07 | liable | lucox: if you want to use the testing or unstable versions of debian, its a good idea for you to know how to look bugs up.. bts== bugs.debian.org |
| 12:50.11 | lucox | 2.4.27.0-5 |
| 12:50.22 | stew | wdamn: no, you run ssh-add once. it will ask you for your passphrase, then it will not ask you for your passphrase again for that x session |
| 12:50.40 | lucox | liable: bts== bugs.debian.org, i didn't know that ... |
| 12:50.43 | stew | lucox: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 12:51.09 | sparr | Is there any image editing software for linux that can handle per-frame palettes in animated GIFs? |
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| 12:51.25 | wdamn | stew: so I have to run ssh-add after every x session login? |
| 12:51.31 | stew | wdamn: yes |
| 12:51.39 | liable | JMilton: install it with dpkg, see what it says. |
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| 12:52.02 | indian | bye |
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| 12:52.08 | wdamn | stew: is there a way to make ssh-add be run with my login manager? |
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| 12:52.19 | cahoot | stew: couldn't keychain make that a one time job? |
| 12:52.24 | liable | hrm, was that karsten or not?? |
| 12:52.56 | stew | cahoot: yes |
| 12:53.15 | azeem | liable: ask karsten? ;) |
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| 12:53.42 | kesara | I have a Gentoo system with some UNICODE file names... now i'm going to install Debian.. will their be any problems accessing those partitions? |
| 12:53.45 | hsinfo | exit |
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| 12:53.50 | stew | wdamn: yes, i'm not sure what the best way to do that would be however |
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| 12:54.01 | jm_ | kesara: Linux kernel supports that |
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| 12:54.20 | gary | Wine fails when trying to execute Internet Explorer. I am trying to code to standards, but there it would still be nice to check for errors and things like that in other IE-similar browsers. |
| 12:54.42 | wdamn | stew: ok, thanks |
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| 12:54.46 | kesara | jm_: thx again. now i'm going to install Debian:) |
| 12:54.48 | liable | cross-over runs ie |
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| 12:55.22 | s1de | moin |
| 12:55.30 | liable | moin moin |
| 12:55.30 | s1de | panthera, da? |
| 12:55.39 | azeem | s1de: this is an english channel |
| 12:55.47 | s1de | panthera, here? ;P |
| 12:56.00 | azeem | thanks |
| 12:56.01 | panthera | s1de: yes, query.. |
| 12:56.17 | Eulex | gary, did you read this? http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html |
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| 12:56.28 | Eclipser | god damn it |
| 12:56.32 | Eclipser | this is getting on my nerves |
| 12:56.47 | Eclipser | on almost every boot my soundcards switch alsa devices |
| 12:57.09 | vlady | hola |
| 12:57.12 | JMilton | liable: (confmiss thing) I used dpkg -i --force-confmiss <path to postgresql-client-8.1> and then the same for postgresql-8.1. Installs ok, no error, etc files still don't get written. |
| 12:57.12 | vlady | a todos... |
| 12:57.15 | exterminador | guenas |
| 12:57.23 | Eulex | !es |
| 12:57.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 12:57.38 | vlady | ok |
| 12:57.46 | liable | JMilton: yes, and is the /etc/postgress dir there? |
| 12:57.53 | cahoot | Eclipser: so setting the index# doesn't help? |
| 12:57.57 | Eclipser | no |
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| 12:58.19 | s1de | panthera, i cant query...i have to register |
| 12:58.33 | panthera | s1de: /msg nickserv register $your_nick $your_password |
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| 12:58.40 | s1de | no |
| 12:58.42 | s1de | #ethz |
| 12:59.06 | WebMonkey | if you cut a branch off a tree and place it into a moist tub of soil with a plastic bag over it, it grows roots in 2 weeks |
| 12:59.18 | liable | really? |
| 12:59.21 | WebMonkey | yup |
| 12:59.25 | WebMonkey | i did an experiment |
| 12:59.33 | fireba11 | WebMonkey: depends on what tree you use |
| 12:59.40 | liable | but will it support a laden swallow? |
| 12:59.41 | WebMonkey | you can make bonsai trees |
| 12:59.50 | WebMonkey | liable: haha i dont think so |
| 13:00.07 | JMilton | liable: just triple checked, it's there and so is /var/lib/postgresql, but still no content in them |
| 13:00.15 | darkness_ | Arn't the bonsai tree hard to grow? |
| 13:00.38 | liable | JMilton: bugger. |
| 13:00.39 | WebMonkey | they are if you grow from seed, but thats why its better to take cuttings off wild trees |
| 13:00.50 | cahoot | darkness_: I thought the point was to make it hard for them to grow |
| 13:00.57 | azeem | WebMonkey: how is that related to #debian? |
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| 13:01.20 | WebMonkey | azeem: I use a deb-based webserver to host pix of my trees? |
| 13:01.22 | JMilton | liable: so what now? i can't reinstall postgresql ever? |
| 13:01.29 | lucox | stew, liable: thnx querybts, reportbug, apt-listbugs, apt-listchanges seem to be very useful |
| 13:01.30 | darkness_ | My only knowledge of a bonsai tree goes back to the karate kid. |
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| 13:01.46 | cahoot | azeem: linux being the bonzai of os'es? |
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| 13:01.56 | liable | debian grows from a little acorn and turns into a big oak?? |
| 13:02.01 | WebMonkey | or at least I would do, if I could get my bloody nfs mountd to behave |
| 13:02.11 | WebMonkey | hehe |
| 13:02.24 | WebMonkey | debian is the mighty oak of linux's |
| 13:02.26 | XenReborn | how do i allow users to log into my box via telnet ? I have the daemon up and running but my normal user account isn't accepted |
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| 13:02.30 | liable | JMilton: thats right. you have blown it. and you may never install postgress again, ever. |
| 13:02.41 | XenReborn | it gives me a "incorrect login" error |
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| 13:03.35 | WebMonkey | trees = science |
| 13:03.53 | abrotman | XenReborn: you realize telnet is pretty insecure right ? |
| 13:04.18 | XenReborn | abrotman: what do you suggest i use instead ? |
| 13:04.27 | abrotman | ssh |
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| 13:04.51 | XenReborn | abrotman: and how would i connect then to my server from a windows terminal ? |
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| 13:04.58 | azeem | XenReborn: putty |
| 13:05.07 | WebMonkey | during the day trees consume carbon dioxide, but at night they produce it. if the sun disappeared the plants would consume all our air and give us none. |
| 13:05.11 | WebMonkey | just a thought |
| 13:05.21 | liable | JMilton: you might try checking out /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 13:05.22 | XenReborn | .... |
| 13:05.35 | XenReborn | abrotman: what about the telnets command ? |
| 13:05.36 | abrotman | XenReborn: google for "putty" |
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| 13:05.46 | abrotman | XenReborn: really .. you shouldn't use telnet |
| 13:05.48 | darkness_ | Can't forget the deb dir tree structure either? |
| 13:06.00 | WebMonkey | exactly |
| 13:06.10 | abrotman | gah .. |
| 13:06.37 | WebMonkey | I think the summer is starting on Monday |
| 13:06.40 | liable | on yer bike! |
| 13:06.40 | darkness_ | XenReborn. I would take their advice and use ssh. Trust me it makes sence. |
| 13:06.58 | entuall | gary, try this: |
| 13:07.02 | WebMonkey | I use putty and ssh, nobody uses telnet anymore |
| 13:07.02 | liable | WebMonkey: well, that depends where you live i guess.. |
| 13:07.05 | darkness_ | Easter next friday :-) |
| 13:07.08 | entuall | gary: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/ |
| 13:07.11 | WebMonkey | liable: true |
| 13:07.16 | entuall | gary, it works for me |
| 13:07.33 | liable | (TM) |
| 13:07.45 | XenReborn | abrotman: what package should i be looking for to serve login requests ? |
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| 13:07.53 | darkness_ | Bet nobody knows that Apple now do windows. Hell has frozen over. |
| 13:07.55 | azeem | XenReborn: ssh |
| 13:07.56 | azeem | dude |
| 13:08.07 | XenReborn | LOL |
| 13:08.11 | azeem | XenReborn: or openssh-server if you run testing/unstable, I think |
| 13:08.53 | XenReborn | i sowwy azeem, i'm a programmer mostly, I don't work with newtorking tech that much anymore lol |
| 13:09.04 | azeem | XenReborn: no need to be soory |
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| 13:10.46 | XenReborn | so anyway, do i edit the groups file once its installed to allow permissions ? |
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| 13:11.05 | azeem | XenReborn: use adduser/addgroup for that |
| 13:12.33 | XenReborn | and i just add my user name to the ssh group once installed ? |
| 13:12.58 | darkness_ | Using ssh, can you lock users into access to just their /home dir? |
| 13:13.34 | XenReborn | darkness_: I would think you could just set the permissions so they couldn't even access anything else |
| 13:13.37 | jm_ | !tell darkness_ -about ssh chroot |
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| 13:14.12 | XenReborn | !tell xenreborn -about sshd |
| 13:14.24 | XenReborn | !tell xenreborn -about ssh |
| 13:14.27 | darkness_ | Says chroot is a massive waste of time. |
| 13:14.37 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 13:14.37 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 13:15.09 | darkness_ | !ttysnoop |
| 13:15.10 | dpkg | methinks ttysnoop is evil and shoud never, ever be used |
| 13:15.16 | darkness_ | haha |
| 13:15.45 | lucox | i cannot install manpages-dev with --force-yes too |
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| 13:19.09 | darkness_ | !walled garden |
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| 13:20.38 | quiet | hrm... what should the device be for a serial mouse?? |
| 13:21.02 | streuner | ttyS0-ttyS1 |
| 13:21.23 | streuner | use 'mdetect' to find out |
| 13:21.38 | streuner | !info mdetect |
| 13:21.38 | darkness_ | !chroot jail |
| 13:21.43 | dpkg | mdetect: (mouse device autodetection tool), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.5.2.1 (sid), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 40 kB |
| 13:21.49 | azeem | darkness_: please /msg the bot |
| 13:21.59 | quiet | buh... it says /dev/psaux |
| 13:22.06 | quiet | intellimouse :\ |
| 13:22.16 | quiet | there is no mouse plugged into the ps2 port. |
| 13:22.22 | ouznext | darkness_: have a look at "scponly" or rssh |
| 13:22.27 | azeem | quiet: does it have ps2->seriel converter? |
| 13:22.31 | azeem | serial, even |
| 13:23.06 | quiet | you mean internal or something? |
| 13:23.08 | Eulex | quiet, the bios might be faking a ps/2 mouse for the serial mouse. |
| 13:23.11 | bedboi | anyone is incurred in the infamous libc6 libstdc++6 bug? |
| 13:23.18 | bedboi | (on sid) |
| 13:23.20 | vlady | deb http://debian.uvena.de/ ./stable/ |
| 13:23.28 | vlady | es correcto poner esto en eld ebian stable? |
| 13:23.33 | Eulex | !es |
| 13:23.33 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:23.49 | quiet | it's a Compaq Proliant 1600... i have never been able to get the mosue to work under BSD or Linux on this thing.. yet it worked fine when Windows 2000 Server was on it.. |
| 13:24.22 | azeem | quiet: does the mouse work fine on other computers? Or other mice on this one? |
| 13:24.33 | vlady | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.33 | lucox | why put maintainers of manpages-dev same man pages as in modutils ? |
| 13:24.41 | quiet | all the mice i've used work on other machines... no mice work on this.. |
| 13:24.44 | vlady | me sle ese error |
| 13:24.47 | quiet | whether i use PS/2 or serial |
| 13:24.48 | streuner | quiet: how does the plug of the mouse look like? 9 pins? |
| 13:25.08 | quiet | yeah man.. 9-pin D |
| 13:25.24 | streuner | 9-pin and oval? that's serial |
| 13:25.47 | quiet | i said i am using a serial mouse right now.. |
| 13:25.50 | stew | !dbugs 360843 |
| 13:25.53 | quiet | i have also tried PS/2 mice.. |
| 13:25.54 | dpkg | #360843:S[] manpages-dev tries to overwrite files from modutils (create_module.2.gz); Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:48:02 UTC |
| 13:25.54 | quiet | none work |
| 13:25.55 | stew | lucox: ^^^ |
| 13:26.04 | streuner | but, its totally unimportant if you use a converter or not, in the end its important what plug sticks in the box... |
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| 13:26.36 | quiet | that's what i thought. |
| 13:26.49 | streuner | if you use a serial -> ps/2 converter use ps/2, vice versa serial |
| 13:27.28 | garo | How can i find out which versionnumber of openvpn is included in debian stable ? |
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| 13:27.40 | liable | hrm, is webmin the only alternative for a hosting solution like cpanel? |
| 13:27.54 | stew | garo: http://packages.debian.org/openvpn |
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| 13:28.34 | garo | stew: thanks |
| 13:28.50 | lucox | stew: i know but why there are man pages duplicated ? |
| 13:29.01 | stew | lucox: becuase someone made a mistake |
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| 13:29.56 | stew | liable: there is also "plesk" iirc |
| 13:30.18 | liable | stew: ta |
| 13:30.24 | azeem | liable: somebody ITPd something like that recently I think |
| 13:30.27 | azeem | dunno what the name was |
| 13:30.37 | quiet | hrm... i suppose this server really doesn't need X or a mouse... i just wish I knew WHY no *nixes will work with it.. |
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| 13:32.43 | jm_ | if you're using 2.6 then you can find list of recognized input devices in /proc, 2.6 input FAQ covers it |
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| 13:34.21 | stew | liable: #359759 is what azeem is referring to |
| 13:34.30 | stew | (i think) |
| 13:34.44 | azeem | !dbugs 359759 |
| 13:34.47 | dpkg | #359759:W[wnpp] ITP: ispman -- ISP Control Panel; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:18:11 UTC |
| 13:34.53 | azeem | probably, yeah |
| 13:35.07 | liable | looks like a candidate :) |
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| 13:39.35 | automac | hey, question about apt-get dist-upgrade: i just installed stable, installed gnome and kde, some basic text apps, etc. nothing major. i had ~1.7 gigs free on my 4 gig root partition. i ran a dist-upgrade to testing, and in the process ran out of space. what would be hogging all this space? shouldn't a dist-upgrade only update packages that i have installed, therefore having roughly the same space requirements as the pre- dist-upgrade state? |
| 13:40.08 | stew | automac: do you have a separate /var partition? |
| 13:40.09 | Shadowcat | probably extracted and downloaded packages |
| 13:40.14 | azeem | automac: maybe your /var/cache/apt/archives if flowing over |
| 13:40.17 | dimir | automat: that's an 'apt-get upgrade' |
| 13:40.18 | automac | no. |
| 13:40.33 | dimir | automac: that does upgrade only installed pkgs. |
| 13:40.51 | azeem | automac: apt tells you how much extra space it'll take after upgrade |
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| 13:41.12 | Shadowcat | if you have separate /var, /tmp, etc |
| 13:41.21 | Shadowcat | you better be VERY good at estimating space usage |
| 13:41.21 | automac | azeem: it told me it would take another ~900 megs. |
| 13:41.29 | azeem | automac: so there. |
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| 13:41.54 | azeem | automac: that's interesting of course |
| 13:41.56 | automac | but in the process took up the free 1.7 gigs and stopped |
| 13:42.19 | azeem | well, 900 MB plus the downloaded debs |
| 13:42.30 | automac | argh. |
| 13:42.38 | azeem | plus it might actually install more first and then remove something later |
| 13:42.42 | azeem | resulting in the 900 at the end |
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| 13:42.48 | automac | that's what i was wondering....egh |
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| 13:44.42 | automac | so /var/cache/apt/archives is almost a gig, but i'm guessing that's where all the upgrade debs are located... hm. what to delete... |
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| 13:45.02 | liable | automac: it needs to download the packages, they take room, then once they are installed, those packages will take up the stated space. run apt-get clean. |
| 13:45.23 | azeem | automac: if you don't need to care about network traffic, I suggest apt-get clean; apt-get upgrade |
| 13:45.30 | azeem | apt-get clean; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:45.47 | azeem | but see how broken your system is right now |
| 13:45.55 | azeem | run e.g. dpkg --configure -a and then apt-get -f install |
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| 13:47.01 | automac | azeem: dpkg --configure -a errors with lack of space |
| 13:47.17 | azeem | automac: then run apt-get clean first |
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| 13:47.31 | azeem | if you can afford to download the .debs again |
| 13:47.37 | liable | holy shit, plesk takes 4 days at $1200 a day.. |
| 13:47.57 | automac | ok, that gave me 750 m |
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| 13:48.17 | indian_ | hi |
| 13:48.24 | liable | !fuck plesk |
| 13:48.31 | liable | !hi |
| 13:48.31 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 13:48.38 | liable | meh |
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| 13:48.47 | indian_ | azeem, hi |
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| 13:49.06 | indian_ | azeem, thanks for your help, works |
| 13:49.11 | liable | have we gotten that politically correct we cant have !fuck?? |
| 13:49.15 | azeem | indian_: uhm, whatever it was :) |
| 13:49.16 | azeem | cheers |
| 13:49.27 | azeem | liable: dunno, is there a reason we should have it? |
| 13:49.36 | mETz | moin, are there any specific docs about setting up tetex on debian? |
| 13:49.56 | azeem | mETz: /usr/share/doc/tetex-bin/README.Debian maybe |
| 13:50.08 | azeem | or other READM.Debians in /usr/share/doc/*tetex* |
| 13:50.08 | liable | azeem: yes! for comic relief from very annoying situations. |
| 13:50.09 | mETz | pdflatex is missing fonts |
| 13:50.25 | cisrudlow | program has lock my device /dev/ttyS0 and it crash. How can I unlock this device or restart it? |
| 13:50.34 | automac | azeem: so dpkg --configure -a configure ~ 20 pkgs, and apt-get -f install returned with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. |
| 13:50.40 | indian_ | azeem, but let me ask that while this glib-bug doesn't fixed, i must always starting evolution with this command? |
| 13:50.43 | azeem | liable: I don't think it was me who removed the factoid, but I saw it being misused by newbies to annoy each other |
| 13:51.00 | azeem | automac: then run apt-get upgrade |
| 13:51.16 | liable | azeem: cant we just kill newbies? :) |
| 13:51.20 | azeem | automac: if that succeeds, run apt-get clean again to remove the .debs you don't need anymore, then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:51.25 | azeem | liable: sure, /j #debian-devel |
| 13:51.25 | automac | and now i've got ~750 megs free again. apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 13:51.50 | azeem | automac: apt-get upgrade will be much less space consuming |
| 13:51.52 | liable | azeem: erm, no, i dont want to get flamed.. :) |
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| 13:52.02 | liable | flammed too. |
| 13:52.03 | azeem | liable: bwhahaha |
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| 13:52.23 | liable | meh, one m or two.. one innit.. |
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| 13:52.40 | azeem | automac: running apt-get upgrade first essentially splits up the process into two manageable pieces |
| 13:52.46 | azeem | it's good practise in general, IMHO |
| 13:52.55 | automac | ahh... ok. thanks. |
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| 13:54.24 | liable | azeem: does dpkg have !fuck in #d-d?? |
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| 13:54.44 | SexyKen | Hey guys anyone here speak dutch? |
| 13:55.02 | azeem | liable: heh, is it in #d-d at all? |
| 13:55.11 | azeem | liable: I think it uses the same database for all chans |
| 13:55.16 | petemc | SexyKen: #debian-nl |
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| 13:55.50 | liable | azeem: no idea, never even bothered to go there seeing as i aint smart enough :) |
| 13:56.28 | azeem | liable: well, I was just hanging out there for a year or so reading along and not opening my mouth intially |
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| 13:57.15 | automac | hmmm... apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade just return with 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. could have it completed successfully? |
| 13:57.19 | Henk | I want to create a raid1 device from sda3 & sbd3, however there is no /dev/md0 on my system so mdadm refused to build it. The system is using udev. How should i proceed ? |
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| 13:58.25 | azeem | automac: yes |
| 13:58.41 | azeem | automac: well, which packages are held back? |
| 13:58.52 | azeem | dist-upgrade should do something about those "3 not upgraded" |
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| 13:59.15 | indian_ | hey azeem, thanks for your help, and respect to all, who developing linux, and helps each others |
| 13:59.22 | liable | stupid konsole.. |
| 13:59.34 | indian_ | goodbye |
| 13:59.42 | liable | who asked about raid? |
| 13:59.50 | liable | http://www.jochem.name/Debian-Sarge-Raid1-mdadm |
| 14:00.03 | tarzeau | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/raid.jpg |
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| 14:00.13 | tarzeau | liable: yes konsole is stuipd |
| 14:00.49 | liable | tarzeau: i like it actually. only tabbed one except for the other stupid tabbed one.. |
| 14:00.58 | liable | :) |
| 14:01.01 | automac | azeem: gdk-imlib1 libaspell15 rhythmbox |
| 14:01.09 | automac | ^^those are held back |
| 14:01.14 | azeem | automac: try to apt-get install them individually |
| 14:02.12 | automac | hmm.. they can't be authenticated |
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| 14:03.26 | azeem | automac: do you have non-Debian repositories in your sources.list as well? |
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| 14:03.48 | loca|host | hiya all |
| 14:04.01 | loca|host | having problem with cfdisk |
| 14:04.22 | cisrudlow | program has lock my device /dev/ttyS0 and it crash. How can I unlock this device or restart it? |
| 14:04.28 | loca|host | it wont create a new partition when created 3 primary and 3 logical partitions |
| 14:04.32 | cisrudlow | this modem |
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| 14:04.37 | cisrudlow | internal |
| 14:05.12 | liable | what program?? |
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| 14:05.38 | TraceGreen | hello, does anyone know austrumi liveCD? |
| 14:05.38 | golab | hi |
| 14:05.47 | liable | more better explains would be good... |
| 14:06.03 | golab | what'is a difference before X.org and Xfree86? |
| 14:06.15 | azeem | golab: X.org is newer |
| 14:06.19 | automac | azeem: no non-Debian repos, no. |
| 14:06.28 | azeem | automac: no idea then |
| 14:06.52 | golab | azeem: this is only one difference? |
| 14:06.53 | cisrudlow | liable: my program ;) |
| 14:06.54 | automac | hmmm... well, time for class... i guess i'll reboot it and see what's broken after class. |
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| 14:06.58 | automac | azeem: thanks for the help. |
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| 14:07.01 | azeem | golab: sort of |
| 14:07.02 | liable | golab: xorg is an extension of xfree with a little better hardware support. debian went xorg due to stupid xfree liscense issues |
| 14:07.21 | golab | yes, license, ok |
| 14:07.27 | golab | tkanks |
| 14:07.58 | liable | cisrudlow: you lose. you fail to supply sufficient info. good luck |
| 14:08.01 | TraceGreen | hello, does anyone know blin? |
| 14:08.33 | cisrudlow | I try echo "ATZ" > /dev/ttyS0 but it doesn't work |
| 14:09.00 | cisrudlow | I have write my program and it crashed |
| 14:09.28 | liable | and why is this a debian problem? |
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| 14:14.17 | dolson | does anyone have a tutorial on how to use mingw32? I tried using the cross-*.sh scripts from libsdl.org, but they don't work, they give me ELF binary output for some reason. I have tried many searches, but all the info I can find is outdated and no longer works |
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| 14:15.20 | azeem | dolson: you mean on Debian? |
| 14:15.29 | dolson | yes |
| 14:15.40 | azeem | why don't you use gcc? |
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| 14:16.32 | dolson | I.. don't know how :) I thought to cross-compile for Windows, I had to use mingw32 |
| 14:16.55 | azeem | do you have the rest of a cross-compile toolchain? |
| 14:17.22 | moconnor | Does anyone know why the unofficial Debian AMD64 repositories aren't tracking the glibc updates? Timezone information was updated (in Indiana here, we just started observing DST) in glibc but these updates (almost 1.5 weeks old) aren't in amd64. This seems oddly long for amd64 to be lagging, is there more gossip here? I'm not seeing anything on debian-amd64 or debian-glibc |
| 14:17.47 | azeem | moconnor: amd64 is now being uploaded officially |
| 14:18.15 | moconnor | azeem - For stable too? I thought that was just for testing. Also, I thought it was a work-in-progress and not done. Is it for sarge and done? |
| 14:18.31 | liable | moconnor: dude, 64 is only just being built in the repos, give it some time. |
| 14:18.41 | azeem | moconnor: not for stable, no |
| 14:18.47 | moconnor | azeem - ok |
| 14:18.48 | azeem | moconnor: better ask in #debian-amd64 about that |
| 14:18.54 | moconnor | oh, I didn't know there was a channel |
| 14:18.56 | moconnor | thanks |
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| 14:19.15 | dolson | azeem: that's the problem. I don't know what I need to do to make my stuff compile. I'm developing an application with Anjuta, which handles the configure script and such. I have installed the three mingw32 packages, but I don't know what to do to make it use mingw32. I tried modifying my Makefile lines, but it still uses g++ for whatever reason, ignoring the changes I have made. |
| 14:19.46 | azeem | dolson: try to run configure with CXX=/usr/bin/mingw32 or whatever |
| 14:19.49 | dolson | this is why I wanted a tutorial or some kind of up-to-date documentation. I did this successfully before, back in 2002 |
| 14:19.59 | loca|host | how to format a partition ? fsck ? |
| 14:20.03 | azeem | dolson: but really, I am not sure this is the best place to ask about cross-compiling for win32 |
| 14:20.10 | azeem | loca|host: mke2fs |
| 14:20.14 | azeem | mke3fs etc. |
| 14:20.14 | liable | loca|host: no, fdisk, or cfdisk |
| 14:20.21 | azeem | liable: format? |
| 14:20.26 | liable | erm. |
| 14:20.32 | loca|host | format |
| 14:20.32 | azeem | well |
| 14:20.35 | azeem | loca|host: what do you want to do? |
| 14:20.40 | StereoSkit | dudes, does anyone else has no button icons in evolution in unstable? |
| 14:20.46 | azeem | create a file system on an empty partition? |
| 14:20.48 | liable | ok, /me goes to bed.. |
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| 14:20.54 | tarzeau | StereoSkit: checked BTS? |
| 14:20.55 | loca|host | i've just created two partitions, i would like to format them as ext3 |
| 14:21.00 | tarzeau | liable: good night honey |
| 14:21.02 | StereoSkit | tarzeau: BTS? |
| 14:21.03 | azeem | loca|host: mke3fs |
| 14:21.05 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 14:21.05 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 14:21.11 | loca|host | thats it :) |
| 14:21.12 | liable | tarzeau: lub you long time! |
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| 14:21.38 | StereoSkit | tarzeau: cool, ill check/report it |
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| 14:25.42 | tnks | I'm a little by something. |
| 14:25.56 | tnks | I don't have the ctags package on my system, but there's a /usr/bin/ctags. |
| 14:26.03 | tnks | I certainly didn't install it manually. |
| 14:26.10 | azeem | dpkg -S /usr/bin/ctags |
| 14:26.10 | dpkg | There is no record of a /usr/bin/ctags package |
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| 14:27.34 | vorsprung | tnks, me too |
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| 14:27.45 | dolson | well thanks azeem. that at least stops with an error about the wrong format for the SDL libs, so that's a good sign. I'll try hacking around and get it sorted out. thanks for your help |
| 14:27.49 | tnks | vorsprung: azeem: man... how the hell did that happen? |
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| 14:28.33 | azeem | tnks: did what happen? |
| 14:28.34 | vorsprung | tnks, we both installed exuberant-ctags |
| 14:28.49 | vorsprung | tnks, and it linked to /usr/bin/ctags via /etc/alternatives |
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| 14:29.06 | tnks | vorsprung: oh... wait... your right... it's a symlink. |
| 14:29.07 | azeem | tnks: update-alternatives --list ctags |
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| 14:30.05 | tnks | azeem: vorsprung: no... actually... it's not a symlink. |
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| 14:30.27 | azeem | tnks: what does ls -l /usr/bin/ctags say? |
| 14:31.03 | tnks | azeem: vorsprung: sorry... I misspoke... it is. |
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| 14:34.39 | tnks | So, I'm just now looking into ctags. It's not C-specific, right? |
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| 14:34.56 | tnks | But my manpage seems to indicate that it is. |
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| 14:35.11 | mut | anyone here use net::ssh::perl with activeperl? i can get the script to run via command line, but when i try to use it in an ASP page it just sits there forever until it script timouts |
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| 14:35.32 | plb | I'm trying to setup wordpress..more specifically mysql database for it atm...what is the root password..the docs I found about mysql says you should make a passwd for it at configure time..how does it work for debian? |
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| 14:36.37 | tnks | nevermind. I looks like etags has more multi-language information. |
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| 14:36.54 | kesara | Hello I just install Debian for the 1st time.. But how can I install gnome with xorg-x11.. Debian still uses xfree? |
| 14:37.19 | azeem | kesara: does XFree86 not work for you? |
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| 14:37.49 | tnks | isn't xorg still only in testing? |
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| 14:38.04 | kesara | azeem: I didn't install it. Because I have use xorg-x11 for years.. |
| 14:38.19 | streuner | tnks: there is a backport for sarge |
| 14:38.28 | streuner | tnks: backports.org |
| 14:38.28 | azeem | kesara: if xfree86 works, there is no need to use xorg-x11 |
| 14:38.29 | bam | plb, check /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian |
| 14:38.36 | tnks | streuner: (oh... interesting). |
| 14:38.39 | plb | I just installed mysql but have no idea what the root passwd is or how to set it ...can someone help me out |
| 14:38.44 | bam | plb, check /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian |
| 14:38.46 | plb | ah |
| 14:38.48 | plb | thanks |
| 14:38.55 | bam | np |
| 14:39.19 | plb | hrm mysql-common?\ |
| 14:39.23 | plb | dont have server |
| 14:39.41 | bam | not sure why you'd set a root path with the server |
| 14:39.45 | bam | s/path/password |
| 14:40.04 | bam | er... |
| 14:40.09 | bam | not sure why you'd set a root pasword without the server |
| 14:40.39 | tnks | kesara: I'm running a testing (Etch) system and I switched over from xfree86 to x.org. Honestly... nothing changed except for a very few modifications of my configuration (mostly "xfree86"s became "xorg"s. |
| 14:40.56 | bam | unless i'm misunderstanding what you're wanting, you need to "apt-get install mysql-server" |
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| 14:41.18 | dfd | hello |
| 14:41.19 | tje_ | Anyone else running into trouble upgrading on -testing due to undefined symbols in libpango? |
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| 14:41.33 | tje_ | Checked the bug repository, couldn't find anything. |
| 14:41.37 | plb | hrm well do you happen to know how to setup wordpress then? =) |
| 14:41.43 | plb | wordpress didn't install the server |
| 14:41.49 | bedboi | tje_: i have something really worse than that. |
| 14:41.51 | bedboi | in sid |
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| 14:41.56 | bedboi | libc6 is broken |
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| 14:42.05 | kesara | tnks ok thx 4 the info. |
| 14:42.07 | nuxil | hi all |
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| 14:42.10 | plb | actually ill try #wordpress |
| 14:42.13 | dfd | how should I behave when two packages in unstable have a file in common? how can I force the install (with or without overwrite of the file) |
| 14:42.19 | tje_ | [2](root@zedd) ~# objdump -T /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 | grep g_intern_static_string |
| 14:42.19 | tje_ | 00000000 DF *UND* 00000219 g_intern_static_string |
| 14:42.32 | tje_ | I'm guessing that UND means the function wasn't linked in at compile time? |
| 14:42.37 | nuxil | ist here a command that tell me when the last system update was done? |
| 14:42.40 | kesara | BTW xfree86 is not even on gentoo portage;-) |
| 14:42.55 | tje_ | This is from src to try to put what it needs there to get an apt-get upgrade to complete |
| 14:42.59 | tnks | kesara: it's mostly a licensing fiasco. |
| 14:43.06 | bam | ya plb, wordpress assumes you already have mysqld installed and running |
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| 14:44.06 | tnks | kesara: if you're running stable, then leaving things xfree saves you the hassle of a backport (which I really think is needless). If you're already in testing, I'd say just choose xorg because xfree doesn't have a future with Debian. |
| 14:44.17 | tje_ | Anyone know what I'm talking about? |
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| 14:47.00 | dfd | When two packages have a same file, how can I install both? Overwriting or not the file, doesn't matter.. |
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| 14:47.02 | kesara | tnks, i installed stable version.. but i want to try the newst versions... is their any thing I can do to change from stable to woody or whatever;) on the fly? |
| 14:47.18 | WebMonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.27 | WebMonkey | can anyone make any sense of this syslog entry? |
| 14:47.31 | vorsprung | how about "purlieu" is that still going? |
| 14:47.39 | WebMonkey | hi vorsprung |
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| 14:48.02 | dfd | :\ |
| 14:48.06 | WebMonkey | sorry |
| 14:48.50 | tje_ | WebMonkey .. looks like it blocked a packet coming in eth0 from 192.168.1.2:751 to 192.168.1.1:701 over UDP |
| 14:49.08 | WebMonkey | phew |
| 14:49.11 | WebMonkey | thanks tje_ |
| 14:49.16 | vorsprung | WebMonkey, good afternoon |
| 14:49.26 | WebMonkey | :) |
| 14:49.34 | WebMonkey | you dont remember me, but I am amorphix |
| 14:49.50 | vorsprung | WebMonkey, well if you must change your name! |
| 14:49.56 | WebMonkey | ;-) |
| 14:50.10 | kesara | how can I change the stable pkg list to testing (i guess sarge)? |
| 14:50.15 | vorsprung | WebMonkey, ( although if your name is "amorphix" I suppose it's to be expected!) |
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| 14:50.25 | WebMonkey | yes indeed |
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| 14:51.44 | WebMonkey | it seems my nfs server has switched ports for some reason! |
| 14:51.49 | WebMonkey | any idea why it would do that? |
| 14:51.52 | pm_ | how can i execute a cmd every 10 minutes? |
| 14:52.03 | WebMonkey | cronjob? |
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| 14:52.07 | vorsprung | WebMonkey, it's just reminding you that nfs sucks? :) |
| 14:52.09 | fireba11 | WebMonkey *g* |
| 14:52.12 | WebMonkey | :P |
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| 14:52.37 | WebMonkey | I think its going to rain again |
| 14:52.38 | vorsprung | pm_, man 5 crontab */10 in the minutes field |
| 14:53.07 | DaBlade | Hello. I've got a question regarding the netinstall. I wanna use it to install Debian, however I want testing, not stable. I could only find stable. Is there a testing at all? If so, where is it? |
| 14:53.08 | WebMonkey | vorsprung do you still like jelly? |
| 14:53.22 | tje_ | WebMonkey .. most of the time, you can hard-code the port numbers into the init scripts |
| 14:53.31 | tje_ | keep mountd on a specific port, etc. |
| 14:53.38 | WebMonkey | aha that would be most useful |
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| 14:53.50 | tje_ | the firewall script I wrote/use calls rpcinfo to get the current port numbers. |
| 14:54.03 | tje_ | I've rigged it so if nfs gets restarted, it kicks the firewall too |
| 14:54.04 | tnks | kesara: I mix my distribution between testing and unstable (but you can mix anything you want) using the Apt preferences file (man apt_preferences) |
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| 14:54.14 | WebMonkey | :-) |
| 14:54.26 | kesara | tnks ok. thx |
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| 14:54.58 | WebMonkey | well thats one problem down, one more to go |
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| 14:55.29 | tnks | kesara: some forewarning. getting Apt preferences set up correctly might be a bit confusing the first time. There's some pages on-line (I forget where, just Google) that are helpful. |
| 14:56.00 | WebMonkey | we just love problems |
| 14:56.26 | WebMonkey | problems are lifes little learning opportunities |
| 14:56.48 | DaBlade | Does anyone happen to know? Sorry if I'm nagging. |
| 14:56.48 | fireba11 | WebMonkey: maybe then you can tell me what's wrong with my cronjob .. ^^ |
| 14:56.53 | tje_ | WebMonkey .. want the url to my fw script that uses rpcinfo to open the correct ports? |
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| 14:57.11 | tje_ | DaBlade .. missed your question... |
| 14:57.21 | DaBlade | tje_: [16:53] <DaBlade> Hello. I've got a question regarding the netinstall. I wanna use it to install Debian, however I want testing, not stable. I could only find stable. Is there a testing at all? If so, where is it? |
| 14:58.06 | tje_ | DaBlade .. I've got a mini-CD ISO I use for such occasion. Technically you can use any net install disc. When it installs the OS, you reboot, and then it gives you the opportunity to select WHERE your packages come from |
| 14:58.09 | tje_ | Here's where you trick the system |
| 14:58.18 | WebMonkey | tje_ yes please |
| 14:58.19 | xoz | DaBlade: you can install the stable and change the source.list to testing later |
| 14:58.24 | tje_ | tell it you want to edit the sources by hand, and just write in "testing" in place of "stable" |
| 14:58.31 | tje_ | WebMonkey .. http://tje.ssllink.net/firewall.tar.gz |
| 14:58.36 | DaBlade | tje_: Alright |
| 14:58.37 | WebMonkey | tje_ many thanx |
| 14:58.45 | tje_ | I tried to /msg it to you so as not to spamvertise, but it says msgs are blocked. *shrugs* |
| 14:58.48 | DaBlade | So I just get the stable netinstall and edit sources.list |
| 14:58.51 | DaBlade | got it. |
| 14:58.55 | tje_ | DaBlade .. you follow me? |
| 14:58.59 | tje_ | Do the stable net install |
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| 14:59.00 | xoz | !beer DaBlade |
| 14:59.07 | tje_ | once it's up, just edit sources for -testing and you're golden |
| 14:59.10 | tB`csl|fleX | how can i normally establish a dsl-connection? |
| 14:59.15 | tB`csl|fleX | via pon or pon dsl-provider? |
| 14:59.20 | WebMonkey | :) |
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| 14:59.38 | xoz | tB`csl|fleX: get a provider |
| 14:59.53 | tje_ | fireba11 .. tried adding redirectors (>>) to your cron entry to see if what's being ran is erroring? |
| 14:59.59 | WebMonkey | I think Im not logged in |
| 15:00.05 | psofa | is "su myuser -c startx" a safe way to start X as a normal user when in logged in as root? |
| 15:00.13 | tB`csl|fleX | xoz: wtf? |
| 15:00.15 | tje_ | psofa .. no. |
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| 15:00.33 | tje_ | psofa .. because the non-priv user could exit the X session and be back at a root shell |
| 15:00.34 | fireba11 | tje_: problem is it seems one entry is run twice ... wasn't able to figure out why so far |
| 15:00.57 | tje_ | fireba11 .. i.e., it ran it twice consecutively or at 2 different times? |
| 15:01.00 | psofa | tje_, how should i do it? |
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| 15:01.07 | tje_ | psofa .. log in as that user, startx |
| 15:01.15 | tje_ | or set your default init level to 4 |
| 15:01.40 | fireba11 | tje_: twice at the same time ... from cron.hourly ... with slightly different settings though, one of those giving that error |
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| 15:01.58 | Denmark | How do I find out who "debian voip team" is? |
| 15:02.02 | tje_ | fireba11 .. what error? |
| 15:02.37 | fireba11 | it sends me an email ... complaining that /bin/bash: root: not a command ... ^^ |
| 15:02.45 | Denmark | http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-voip-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org |
| 15:02.48 | tje_ | show me your cron entry |
| 15:02.56 | tje_ | crontab -e |
| 15:02.56 | psofa | tje_, is there a way for my root executed script to ha=ve a command that logs in as that user automatically and execute the rest of the commands as that user? |
| 15:03.08 | psofa | srry if am asking dumb things |
| 15:03.29 | tje_ | psofa .. Not without some serious kludgery I'd imagine |
| 15:03.41 | tje_ | psofa .. try using one of the X display managers |
| 15:03.47 | tje_ | like KDM or GDM for KDE or GNOME |
| 15:04.00 | tje_ | They can log in as a normal user there |
| 15:04.00 | Myon | Denmark: check for Co-Maintainers |
| 15:04.04 | psofa | tje_, yep thats the problem i dont want the dm's |
| 15:04.15 | fireba11 | tje_ it's a box at work i can't access right now .. i was only mentioning it because the tipic was on cron already :-D for me it's already weekend :-D |
| 15:04.20 | tje_ | psofa .. why not? |
| 15:04.23 | Denmark | Myon : Thanks .. |
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| 15:04.26 | Myon | Denmark: the PTS links |
| 15:04.34 | tje_ | fireba11 .. all. I'm on a short... uhh... vacation... myself. |
| 15:04.37 | tje_ | a hiatus if you will |
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| 15:04.54 | tje_ | I wish I could get this damn libpango thing figured out. |
| 15:05.00 | vhuren | what does the archive mode do when I use rsync and stuff? |
| 15:05.08 | psofa | tje_, now that im thinking of it i could use them just to autologin |
| 15:05.13 | fireba11 | tje_: also /etc/crontab is the default one .. i just added to a crontab fragment in /etc/cron.d ... |
| 15:05.20 | napoleao | anyone know how to instal Statistics-Distributions perl module in debian? have been googling for days but cant find anything |
| 15:05.29 | fireba11 | tje_: also /etc/cron.hourly is emtpy ^^ |
| 15:06.02 | psofa | but it would be moronic to use a dm to autologin :D |
| 15:06.03 | Denmark | Myon: PTS? |
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| 15:06.03 | DaBlade | Well, thanks for the help tje_, xoz and everyone else. |
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| 15:06.03 | DaBlade | I'm outta here. Adios. :) |
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| 15:06.03 | tje_ | DaBlade .. take it easy |
| 15:06.03 | Denmark | Myon : Oh! :-) |
| 15:06.04 | tje_ | fireba11 .. that's odd. |
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| 15:06.25 | behemoth | hello all, whats the command to repair the dpkg database? |
| 15:06.47 | streuner | behemoth: what error? |
| 15:07.05 | fireba11 | tje_: yes it is .. jm_ was trying to help me .. strace shows its running twice, but we could't figure out where it gets the 2nd from |
| 15:07.18 | behemoth | streuner: was looking for dpkg --configure -a |
| 15:07.36 | streuner | ok, just run this command |
| 15:08.56 | Denmark | behemoth : Depends |
| 15:09.37 | Denmark | behemoth : Ahh you found it. dselect is known to fix errors quite well, or at least it used to. |
| 15:09.42 | Denmark | behemoth : I still use it. |
| 15:09.55 | behemoth | Denmark: thanks, will look into it |
| 15:10.26 | Denmark | behemoth : You might wanna check out aptitude first though. It fixes many common problems also. |
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| 15:10.43 | Hdnagy | hi all |
| 15:10.45 | tje_ | fireba11 .. create a wrapper for the thing being ran twice and have it do "set >> /var/log/prog.log" so you can see if it's on a TTY, and other important things |
| 15:10.46 | Denmark | behemoth : It has a somewhat more modern userinterface. |
| 15:11.17 | fireba11 | tje_: will do on monday |
| 15:11.28 | Denmark | behemoth : A graphic alternative is synaptic, but there seems to be split opinions about this tool. I fancy synaptic quite a bit myself though. |
| 15:12.17 | behemoth | Denmark: yea, using synaptic as well. however, when i run aptitude, i get an message saying |
| 15:12.30 | behemoth | Denmark: #Broken: 33 |
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| 15:13.00 | Hdnagy | I looking for an compress and decompress c++ sources.... [ZIP/RAR/ACE/CAB/ARJ/BZ2/UHARC/TAR/7-ZIP/LHA/LZH/BZ2/Deepfreezer/] |
| 15:13.06 | Denmark | behemoth : Did you try "apt-get -f install" ? |
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| 15:13.23 | opc0de | hey can anyone here tell me how to map an ethernet interface to a module? it seems sometimes my interfaces are coming up in a random order.. I always want eth0 to be my internal interface (skge) and eth1 to be the external (8139too). I'm pretty sure I've done this in the past, but I can't remember how |
| 15:13.28 | behemoth | Denmark: yup, doesn't give any error message |
| 15:13.40 | nuxil | ist here a command that tell me when the last system update was done? |
| 15:13.47 | Denmark | behemoth : try the configure menu in dselect |
| 15:13.56 | fireba11 | tje_: the funny thing is what runs twice is the run-parts for cron hourly .. from default crontab file ^^ |
| 15:13.58 | incorrect | im looking at setting up an intranet site, i've had a look at xoops and a few others, but does anyone know one that will do auth from and ADC ? |
| 15:14.00 | azeem | nuxil: you can inspect /var/log/dpkg.log if you are on testing or unstable |
| 15:14.17 | nuxil | so there is no command |
| 15:14.28 | behemoth | Denmark: configure doensn't do anything, just returns me back to menu |
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| 15:15.10 | behemoth | Denmark: synaptic doesn't report any packages as broken either |
| 15:15.11 | Denmark | behemoth : Ok .. you might need to go through step 2 and 3 |
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| 15:15.46 | tje_ | anyone ever seen Wizard of Floyd.avi ? |
| 15:15.48 | saloxin | opc0de: /etc/modprobe.co |
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| 15:15.59 | behemoth | Denmark: step 2 and 3 ? |
| 15:16.02 | saloxin | oops, /etc/modutils/aliases on sarge |
| 15:16.24 | Denmark | behemoth : In dselect |
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| 15:17.12 | behemoth | Denmark: ok, will have a look |
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| 15:17.25 | AtZeuS | hello |
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| 15:17.58 | Neur0n_ | hi there guys! |
| 15:17.58 | AtZeuS | Does anyone know where i can find a amd-64 non-free repository? |
| 15:18.07 | AtZeuS | been searching for ages :) |
| 15:18.23 | AtZeuS | to add to my sources.list |
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| 15:20.32 | tje_ | I think I've found my solution... gonna move on. You guys take it easy. |
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| 15:21.16 | Denmark | how do I find a nick of a maint? |
| 15:21.29 | tB`afk|fleX | hello, i always get "/usr/sbin/ppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option /dev/modem" if i try to login via dsl modem (no router), what can be the problem? i used pppoeconf to configure it and my chap-secrets shows 3 different entries |
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| 15:22.24 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: isn't it supposed to use dsl-provider? |
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| 15:22.39 | Denmark | <msp@debian.org> <--- which nick? |
| 15:23.09 | tB`afk|fleX | cheal: yes it should, i don't know |
| 15:23.16 | pngwn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:23.39 | azeem | pngwn: uhm |
| 15:23.49 | azeem | pngwn: don't tell people to randomly mail others |
| 15:24.01 | azeem | Denmark: db.debian.org has a search facility for questions like this |
| 15:24.18 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: how do you try to login via dsl modem (no router)? |
| 15:24.32 | TraceGreen | Hello, does debian have mksquashfs? |
| 15:24.39 | tB`afk|fleX | cheal: pon |
| 15:24.44 | TraceGreen | i try to apt-cache search mksquashfs, but can not find. |
| 15:24.49 | azeem | !+find mksquashfs |
| 15:24.51 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 15:24.59 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mksquashfs' (1): (/usr/sbin/mksquashfs) in admin/squashfs-tools. |
| 15:25.11 | azeem | TraceGreen: ^^ |
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| 15:25.38 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: what's the complete command you use? |
| 15:25.42 | tB`afk|fleX | pon |
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| 15:25.44 | tB`afk|fleX | oO |
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| 15:26.09 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: that will use the default provider |
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| 15:26.52 | simonrvn | cheal and azeem hard at it helping people |
| 15:26.55 | simonrvn | :) |
| 15:27.06 | tB`afk|fleX | cheal: but i have been told you always should use "pon" w.o. command, at my previous debian installation everything worked also with "pon" |
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| 15:27.26 | AtZeuS | I must have been doing something really stupid, standard thing works :) |
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| 15:27.58 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: actually, pon worked for DSL for me too, a long time ago. but it doesn't anymore, and I wasn't experienced enough at that time to open a bug report |
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| 15:28.47 | tB`afk|fleX | cheal: when using pppoeconf the first time i typed sth wrong at my provider data, so i redid pppoeconf, is it ok that in chap-secrets there are now 2 entries? |
| 15:29.06 | cheal | simonrvn: certainly more than you :) |
| 15:29.28 | simonrvn | atm yup. |
| 15:29.54 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: I'm still not completely familiar with PPPoE and have no clue about chap-secrets |
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| 15:31.07 | tB`afk|fleX | so my question goes again |
| 15:31.11 | tB`afk|fleX | hello, i always get "/usr/sbin/ppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option /dev/modem" if i try to login via dsl modem (no router), what can be the problem? i used pppoeconf to configure it and my chap-secrets shows 3 different entries |
| 15:31.38 | zardiz | tB`afk|fleX: is it possible you're missing a flag? like -d /dev/modem or something? |
| 15:31.48 | tB`afk|fleX | where? |
| 15:31.57 | zardiz | in /etc/ppp/peers/provider? |
| 15:32.23 | tB`afk|fleX | #Serial device to which the modem is connected |
| 15:32.23 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: I'm pretty sure that you're just using the wrong provider |
| 15:32.26 | tB`afk|fleX | /dev/modem |
| 15:32.32 | tB`afk|fleX | the wrong provider? |
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| 15:32.55 | zardiz | is it ppd or was that just a typo? |
| 15:33.10 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: # pon; uses provider "provider" by default while you should use "dsl-provider" |
| 15:33.21 | tB`afk|fleX | pppd |
| 15:33.23 | tB`afk|fleX | :] |
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| 15:34.46 | tB`afk|fleX | cheal: but why did it then work before? |
| 15:35.04 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: as I told you, I don't know abou that |
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| 15:35.17 | tB`afk|fleX | zamolxes |
| 15:35.19 | tB`afk|fleX | zardiz |
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| 15:36.24 | dglerum | anyone got some nfo about installing java on debian? |
| 15:36.32 | dglerum | i mean the JRE |
| 15:36.44 | zardiz | dglerum : see package java-package |
| 15:36.59 | cheal | dglerum: /topic |
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| 15:37.03 | dglerum | thanks a lot, try it right now |
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| 15:38.19 | tB`afk|fleX | hello, i always get "/usr/sbin/ppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option /dev/modem" if i try to login via dsl modem (no router), what can be the problem? i used pppoeconf to configure it and my chap-secrets shows 3 different entries |
| 15:38.43 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: shrug, please stop repeating |
| 15:39.00 | tB`afk|fleX | yes, but no one answers |
| 15:39.09 | tB`afk|fleX | there must be someone who knows a solution :( |
| 15:39.15 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: I thought I answered you |
| 15:39.26 | tB`afk|fleX | but it didn't help me |
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| 15:39.35 | tB`afk|fleX | pon dsl-provider doesn't work too |
| 15:39.35 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: how come. what did you try? |
| 15:39.44 | cheal | tB`afk|fleX: what does it do? |
| 15:39.57 | tB`afk|fleX | wait, got to check |
| 15:40.08 | fluxdude | I've got the following in my logs: "kernel: sending pkt_too_big (len[1500] pmtu[1443]) to self" . Any suggestions? I've already tried changing the mtu size to 1500 but it was already 1500 so I don't get it... |
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| 15:41.48 | mut | trying to delete a directory on a linux box from a windows box/asp page, any suggestions on methods? samba mount and delete or something like that.. |
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| 15:42.08 | zardiz | mut: ssh + rm |
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| 15:42.20 | mut | ever done ssh via asp? |
| 15:42.25 | ccg- | how to have more than one graph in openoffice chart ? |
| 15:42.36 | zardiz | mut : yes, you do know that ssh can execute in batch mode, right? |
| 15:44.53 | mut | putty or something |
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| 15:50.22 | AtZeuS | Hi! I do not seem to have make-kpkg, does someone know how to install it? |
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| 15:51.35 | Denmark | azeem: Thanks |
| 15:51.47 | hyksos_ | AtZeuS :perhaps kernel-package |
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| 15:52.19 | De_Mon | AtZeuS build-essenials would probably be a good start |
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| 15:53.01 | De_Mon | build-essential |
| 15:53.31 | lewis22 | does 'ps aux' return memory in kilobytes? |
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| 15:54.15 | nuxil | lewis22, free -k |
| 15:54.30 | Denmark | azeem : His ircname seems to be unlisted? |
| 15:54.32 | AtZeuS | De_Mon: thnx, but I still do not seem to have make-kpkg, any more ideas? :) |
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| 15:54.48 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 15:54.49 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 15:55.16 | De_Mon | AtZeuS hyksos_ says kernel-package |
| 15:55.25 | netman1 | Why do some scripts in /etc/init.d/ start with '#!/bin/sh' and others with '#! /bin/sh' (an aditional space between the ! and the first /) ? |
| 15:55.35 | pipeline | netman1: No reason. |
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| 15:55.42 | De_Mon | AtZeuS (you should have both really) |
| 15:55.43 | tarzeau | netman1: #! /bin/sh is more portable |
| 15:55.45 | hyksos_ | AtZeuS :yes, sorry |
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| 15:56.02 | netman1 | tarzeau: can you give me one? |
| 15:56.14 | netman1 | tarzeau: mean platform name. |
| 15:56.14 | tarzeau | netman1: i can give you five |
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| 15:56.21 | tarzeau | netman1: some old unix/bsd |
| 15:56.34 | Denmark | tarzeau : Give me five! |
| 15:56.36 | De_Mon | tarzeau thats one |
| 15:56.45 | Denmark | tarzeau ;-) |
| 15:56.48 | AtZeuS | De_Mon : yay! it works :) thnx a bunch |
| 15:56.55 | pipeline | tarzeau: Eh, the "standard" is for the shebang line to have no space. |
| 15:57.02 | tarzeau | pipeline: HAHAHAH |
| 15:57.06 | tarzeau | pipeline: says you? |
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| 15:57.23 | De_Mon | shebang? what a crude term! |
| 15:57.26 | tarzeau | pipeline: i wasn't arguing what the standard is, i just said with the whitespace it's more portable |
| 15:57.30 | tarzeau | !shebang |
| 15:57.30 | dpkg | somebody said shebang was the "hash-bang" (#!) line at the start of a script that instructs the kernel which interpreter to use |
| 15:57.44 | Denmark | pipeline : Which "standard"? The "POSIX" "standard" ? |
| 15:58.06 | tarzeau | Denmark: posix doesn't define this, imho |
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| 15:58.35 | Denmark | tarzeau : OK :) |
| 15:58.37 | netman1 | Hey guys, it wasn't my intention to start a flame war ;-) Tarzeau: thanks. |
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| 15:59.01 | Denmark | tarzeau : I never actually read the posix. |
| 15:59.21 | simonrvn | not after the bang, but after the hash would fuck it |
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| 15:59.28 | Webmonkey | hi guys |
| 15:59.29 | tarzeau | Denmark: try posixtestsuite - POSIX conformance test suite (dummy package) |
| 15:59.40 | Webmonkey | whats with the Dingbats font in Deb? just shows normal text |
| 15:59.51 | simonrvn | i.e., #! / works, # ! / doesn't nor does # !/ |
| 16:00.36 | simonrvn | #! the kernel reads it as something to read and do something about |
| 16:00.39 | priscila | Denmark: hash-bang has been used since sh isnt the only avaiable shell |
| 16:01.09 | Denmark | priscila : Yeah someone added korn-shell, right? |
| 16:01.09 | tarzeau | simonrvn: the shell does, not the kernel |
| 16:01.14 | simonrvn | and of course #!/ |
| 16:01.27 | simonrvn | yes the kernel, the shell is just intermediary |
| 16:01.30 | priscila | beardy: bash,korn-shell, and so |
| 16:01.34 | AtZeuS | hmm now make-kpkg says that I'm not in a top-level linux source dir, but I'm in usr/src |
| 16:01.47 | simonrvn | you still aren't |
| 16:02.30 | simonrvn | and that's only if it's /bin/sh |
| 16:02.55 | simonrvn | what do you think happens when you get #!/usr/bin/perl ? |
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| 16:03.31 | priscila | Denmark: if the system run a boot script, its easer for it search the shell in #! than has other script calling it, for example python script.py |
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| 16:04.17 | Denmark | priscila : It seems magic to me. |
| 16:04.45 | Webmonkey | Do I need to anything to get Dingbat fonts to display in Debian? |
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| 16:04.58 | simonrvn | you dingbat :P |
| 16:05.09 | simonrvn | it isn't displaying? |
| 16:05.23 | Webmonkey | no :( |
| 16:05.30 | Webmonkey | it just displays ordinary text |
| 16:05.34 | Webmonkey | no icons/pictures |
| 16:05.46 | Denmark | !dingbat |
| 16:06.13 | Denmark | priscila : They will ask how I live without television. I'll say "people are different". |
| 16:06.19 | Webmonkey | maybe its just not supported in my app (gimp) |
| 16:06.20 | simonrvn | priscila: frankly, i have no clue. at least mock os x is vaguely *nix |
| 16:06.25 | tarzeau | Denmark: haha without tv is so easy |
| 16:06.33 | tarzeau | Denmark: every nethack game is more intersting |
| 16:06.37 | Denmark | tarzeau :) |
| 16:06.51 | kesara_ | I started installing the stable ver few hours ago. Now I moved to etch.. Any comments on upgrading the kernel? |
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| 16:07.32 | Denmark | tarzeau : Its almost more interesting to get a kick in the *** |
| 16:07.35 | Denmark | :o) |
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| 16:08.17 | Webmonkey | nooooo dingbats for meee |
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| 16:14.55 | plb | anyone in here ever setup wordpress on debian? |
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| 16:18.53 | d1rt | does |
| 16:19.31 | d1rt | does woody (2.4.27) kernel come with ppa module support to use a parallel port zip drive? |
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| 16:19.40 | vin` | !greetings |
| 16:19.41 | dpkg | hello, vin` |
| 16:19.49 | d1rt | vin':hello |
| 16:20.18 | stew | d1rt: woody doesn't have 2.4.27 but 2.4.18 |
| 16:20.23 | stew | !config-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 16:20.23 | dpkg | hmm... config-2.4.27-2-386 is http://wooledge.org/~greg/config-2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 16:21.14 | d1rt | stew:whatever, would i have to rebuild kernel or would it work outta da box? |
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| 16:21.46 | stew | d1rt: dpkg just gave a url to the config |
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| 16:22.15 | groogs | i'm having problems with my dhcp server and a winXP wireless laptop .. it usually does about 5 DHCPDISCOVER's (and the log shows DHCPOFFER immediately afterwards) over about a 1 minute period before finally doing a DHCPREQUEST / DHCPACK to get the ip. anyone ever run into this before? |
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| 16:23.17 | zamaliphe | hi all thir was a msg for dpkg about compil kernel what it was ? |
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| 16:23.42 | d1rt | CONFIG_SCSI_PPA=m ??? |
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| 16:24.45 | resiak | !tell zamaliphe -about kp mantra |
| 16:25.25 | zamaliphe | resiak thanks |
| 16:25.33 | kitten | Anyone feel like helping me with an Ubuntu wireless question? The people in #ubuntu either don't know or don't care. |
| 16:25.38 | knao | hey, im trying to make a debian package, but all the files end up being u-rwx so I can't read them |
| 16:25.51 | knao | in the .deb |
| 16:26.00 | knao | and I tried chmodding them in the debian/rules install rule |
| 16:26.08 | knao | and i think something is chmodding them back |
| 16:27.03 | Webmonkey | is there a way to make the fonts refresh without restarting X after installing new fonts? |
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| 16:27.44 | zamaliphe | knao you can use #chmod 755 * |
| 16:28.10 | knao | zamaliphe: I do that in the install rule |
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| 16:28.16 | knao | zamaliphe: and something overwrites it |
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| 16:29.07 | kitten | ... |
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| 16:29.48 | zamaliphe | i think that you have to be root befor you can install bkg knao |
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| 16:30.10 | knao | zamaliphe: I'm talking about building my own deb package for a program |
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| 16:30.23 | knao | zamaliphe: the permissions in the deb file end up being u-rwx no matter what I do in the install rule |
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| 16:32.06 | zamaliphe | i dont know knao |
| 16:32.06 | quad3d | i just installed sarge and system wouldn't boot. grub shows up... typed boot and it said about loading a kernel first. what's the default kernel name? thx |
| 16:32.09 | stew | how very kind of the clonebot's owner to make his bots easily identified |
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| 16:32.44 | Webmonkey | i am having a really bad day |
| 16:32.47 | kusznir | How do I set /etc/init.d/* services to start (or not to start) on boot? |
| 16:32.59 | stew | kusznir: update-rc.d or rcconf |
| 16:33.03 | dimir | Omg! |
| 16:33.03 | zood_ | Is it possible to get a version of dpkg (the bot) that I could keep locally so I could ask it questions without having to come to #debian? |
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| 16:33.08 | kusznir | stew: thank you! |
| 16:33.19 | madclicker | is there an e-catalog solution on sarge? |
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| 16:33.45 | stew | zood_: /msg dpkg blootbot ; /msg dpkg your factoids |
| 16:33.55 | esk | quad3d: you have to know grub's name for your drive, try typing '(hd' then press <tab> |
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| 16:34.19 | stew | zood_: and i have a web searchable database of the factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org |
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| 16:34.50 | esk | quad3d: although if you don't have a menu, chances are something went really wrong |
| 16:34.58 | zood_ | stew, thanks |
| 16:35.34 | quad3d | esk: "boot (hd" returns possible disks are: hd0, hd1, hd2, hd4 |
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| 16:35.59 | esk | quad3d: what hard drive is your install on? |
| 16:37.00 | quad3d | all 4 have RAID1 /boot. 2g swap on hd0, 2g /tmp on hd1, RAID1 / on hd2&3, rest on RAID5 (hd0,1,2,3) |
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| 16:37.33 | quad3d | set /boot is 120mb.... it shouldn't be a problem. 4X300gb |
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| 16:38.10 | quad3d | hd0 is set boot flag |
| 16:38.39 | esk | quad3d: okay, so do 'kernel (hd0,0)/vmlinuz' and press <tab> |
| 16:39.10 | quad3d | got it |
| 16:39.19 | nok | I have a old toshiba 2500cds!!! how do i make the sound working on that... |
| 16:39.23 | quad3d | kernel loaded |
| 16:39.37 | esk | quad3d: initrd (hd0,0)/initrd tap |
| 16:39.38 | stew | nok: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 16:39.47 | esk | s/tap/tab/ |
| 16:40.06 | nok | stew:2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 16:40.52 | nok | stew:??? |
| 16:41.08 | lawnchair | whats agood command to look at disk i/o |
| 16:41.46 | quad3d | esk: oops... i jump ahead of myself and typed boot. kernel panic. hold on, i'm rebooting :) |
| 16:41.55 | esk | quad3d: I almost forgot, you have to give a 'root=/dev/device' option at the end of your 'kernel' command (whichever md device your / partition is on) |
| 16:42.12 | quad3d | ok, got it |
| 16:42.17 | quad3d | i'll try that in a sec, thx |
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| 16:42.39 | nok | stew??? |
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| 16:43.06 | automac_ | hey, in debian, how do you customize path per user. i thought it would be in ~/.profile, but it's not working. |
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| 16:43.30 | esk | automac_: probably .bashrc |
| 16:43.37 | automac_ | not working either |
| 16:43.40 | quad3d | esk: since / is setup RAID1 on hd2 and hd3 so i assume it'll be /dev/md1? (md0 is /boot and md2 is RAID5) |
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| 16:43.55 | esk | automac_: .profile is for csh stuff |
| 16:44.14 | esk | quad3d: probably |
| 16:44.22 | nok | I have a old toshiba 2500cds!!! how do i make the sound working on that...kinda tried alsa...but didn't detec anything |
| 16:44.29 | nok | was working on win98 |
| 16:44.44 | automac_ | actually, i take that back. i edited .bash_profile, which actually had the modification to the user's path commented out, so i uncommented it, but it's not working. i'll check .bashrc to see if it's even looking at .bash_profile |
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| 16:45.07 | jeward | Hi, can anyone help me with an atheros wireless card? |
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| 16:45.34 | esk | automac_: .bash_profile isn't sourced when you login through X |
| 16:45.37 | quad3d | esk: once kernel and initrd is done i can proceed to boot? or is there anything else i need to process before boot? |
| 16:45.50 | esk | quad3d: that should be it :) |
| 16:46.23 | esk | jeward: you need the madwifi module |
| 16:46.36 | automac_ | esk: that explains it. |
| 16:46.43 | esk | jeward: it is in non-free |
| 16:46.52 | jeward | esk> I have them, but the module errors when loading. |
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| 16:47.32 | dabaR | how does one turn off the tapping/clicking behavior of a touchpad on a laptop. I just want the touchpad to move the cursor, not to click. |
| 16:47.55 | blondie | isn't that a function of the hardware? |
| 16:48.18 | esk | jeward: did you use module-assistant to build the module, or did you download the source from the madwifi site? |
| 16:48.30 | dabaR | It is a software driver. I do not know what you are asking. in a non-gnome desktop it does not do the click. |
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| 16:48.59 | jeward | esk> I didnt install it, bnut I am trying to make it work. |
| 16:49.20 | jeward | esk> So I am not sure of the answer to your question. |
| 16:49.34 | lindenle | I am running unstable and openoffice 2.0 does not draw the tool icons correctly is this a known problem or is there some easy fix? |
| 16:49.45 | quad3d | esk: works great! thanks. now i'm proceeding to pre-install post setup. i assume i need to modify grub menu.lst accordingly after i setup the system? |
| 16:49.51 | resiak | Have you checked the BTS, lindenle? |
| 16:50.07 | esk | jeward: did you use apt/module-assistant, or did you download the source yourself? |
| 16:50.27 | lindenle | resiak: yeah there are a lot of bugs open (unstable ;)) I just thought i would check in hee before i started slogging through them. |
| 16:50.28 | jeward | esk> I did neither, it was already on the system. |
| 16:50.29 | esk | quad3d: correct, you might just need to run 'update-grub' |
| 16:50.39 | jeward | esk> I am just trying to get it to work for a friend. |
| 16:50.43 | quad3d | alright, thx alot for your help. i greatly appreciate it |
| 16:50.49 | esk | jeward: what distro? |
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| 16:51.15 | jeward | esk> It appears to be woody with a 2.4 kernel. |
| 16:51.19 | lindenle | resiak: when you mouse over the tol buttons they all dissapear totally makes it useless ....nice |
| 16:51.42 | nok | I can I configure my sound card please....alsa is not detetcting anything |
| 16:51.50 | resiak | lindenle: Welcome to the wonderful hacky pile that is OOo. For a better approach, see AbiWord and pals. |
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| 16:52.05 | lindenle | resiak: agreed |
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| 16:52.21 | lindenle | resiak: what is the power point replacement I forget? |
| 16:52.27 | resiak | lindenle: Hahah |
| 16:52.34 | Nexus | I just used alien to install oracle-instantclient, but the jsp pages are still saying they can't find the oracle.jdbc.driver files. How do I get that path put in the area it searches? |
| 16:52.44 | lindenle | resiak: just have to look at a document from someone else... |
| 16:52.44 | jeward | esk> Should I try module-assistant? |
| 16:52.49 | resiak | lindenle: okay |
| 16:52.52 | esk | jeward: oh... that could be difficult... you could try 'apt-get install module-assistant', then run module-assistant and see if the madwifi driver is available (by far the easiest) |
| 16:53.04 | jeward | esk> Will do. |
| 16:53.04 | lindenle | resiak: I personallly use beamer al the way ;) |
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| 16:53.32 | resiak | lindenle: Where is this beamer of which you speak? |
| 16:53.35 | automac_ | so adding the path modification to .bashrc works when i'm using a term. anyone know how i would accomplish the same in xfce, so if i pull up a run command dialog or create a launcher, it sees things my modified path? |
| 16:53.37 | jeward | esk> E: Package module-assistant has no installation candidate |
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| 16:53.49 | nok | how can I install my sound card .....need help |
| 16:53.53 | lindenle | resiak: it is a latex package for making slides |
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| 16:53.59 | automac_ | well, not just xfce, in any X environment. |
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| 16:54.09 | resiak | lindenle: How handy! |
| 16:54.19 | lindenle | resiak: what do you use to look at powerpoint files if not ooimpress? |
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| 16:54.30 | resiak | lindenle: I don't |
| 16:54.33 | lindenle | resiak: yeah it can do overlays and looks really sharp |
| 16:54.35 | lindenle | ok |
| 16:54.54 | lindenle | Does anyone use something other than ooimpress to look at powwerpoint files? |
| 16:55.01 | quad3d | esk: just a wild question... would debian boot off this setup. hd0,1,2,3 all with 120mb RAID1 (/boot) and rest on RAID5+lvm. i think i was told / can't be in a volume, is that true? |
| 16:55.03 | lindenle | or convert them to pdf? |
| 16:55.06 | esk | jeward: you will probably need to either upgrade or install from source |
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| 16:55.34 | stew | nok: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 16:55.37 | FinnTux | is it possible to change gnome file open/save dialog? |
| 16:55.44 | jeward | esk> The machine is old, is upgrading a good idea? |
| 16:55.55 | FallenHitokiri | does somebody know which kernel i have to use for a guest when i install xen with http://packages.debianbase.de/sarge/i386/xen3/ this packages? |
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| 16:56.10 | nok | stew:alsa is not detecting anything |
| 16:56.15 | nok | s |
| 16:56.20 | lzhang | how do I make it so that when I putty into my box there is colored text? |
| 16:56.28 | FinnTux | using debian unstable... |
| 16:56.28 | nok | s |
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| 16:56.35 | esk | quad3d: if you have a separate /boot partition it should be fine, but the installer probably won't be able to figure it out so you might have to set up grub yourself |
| 16:56.40 | stew | nok: what is the output of "lspci -n | grep 0401" ? |
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| 16:56.53 | stew | nok: or is there no output |
| 16:57.11 | esk | jeward: how old, and what window manager are you using? |
| 16:57.56 | Nexus | I just used alien to install oracle-instantclient, but the jsp pages are still saying they can't find the oracle.jdbc.driver files. How do I get that path put in the area it searches? |
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| 16:58.02 | lindenle | wv? Nice |
| 16:58.04 | jeward | esk> fluxbox and the machine is a transmeta crusoe 600Mhz processor. It does have USB. |
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| 16:58.44 | esk | jeward: it should handle sarge as long as you don't want to run kde/gnome |
| 16:58.53 | jeward | esk> About 111M useable RAM. |
| 16:59.10 | nok | stew:7 line of numbers and adresses |
| 16:59.19 | jeward | esk> So change sources.list to stable and dist-upgrade? |
| 16:59.39 | stew | nok: 7 lines? |
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| 16:59.43 | esk | jeward: I have unstable on an old amd 400 mhz laptop with 128 MB ram that runs fluxbox okay |
| 17:00.02 | tarzeau | esk: haha. old? |
| 17:00.06 | dabaR | exit |
| 17:00.10 | dabaR | :-/ |
| 17:00.23 | nok | stew et si je fait juste lspci... on dirait qu'il n y a rien a propose dun carte de son....cardbus, vga, usb, host bridge.... et c'est tout |
| 17:00.30 | jeward | esk> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ oldstable main non-free contrib |
| 17:00.46 | jeward | esk> Just change that to stable? |
| 17:01.10 | esk | jeward: I would use 'sarge' instead of 'stable', but be sure you have time to deal with any breakage that might be caused |
| 17:01.13 | nok | stew : can you go on #flood |
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| 17:01.26 | stew | nok: type "lspci -n | grep 0401:", it should not output more than one or two lines |
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| 17:01.45 | jeward | esk> Why not stable? |
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| 17:02.23 | jeward | esk> sarge == stable? |
| 17:02.26 | esk | jeward: it makes you less likely to accedentally upgrade to etch when it becomes stable |
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| 17:02.42 | esk | jeward: sarge is currently stable, yes |
| 17:02.44 | jeward | esk> Okay, thanks. |
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| 17:03.52 | jeward | esk> Should I dist-upgrade or just try module-assistant? |
| 17:04.00 | golab | how remove mysql-server-4.1 without removing other packages? |
| 17:04.06 | golab | anybody know? |
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| 17:04.29 | jonathan` | is there a way to run a linux install CD once you're booted up into the OS completely? |
| 17:04.38 | esk | jeward: module-assistant will probably want a newer kernel |
| 17:04.57 | jeward | esk> 2.4.26 |
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| 17:06.20 | esk | jeward: you can try module-assistant, but it might do quite a bit of upgrading itself |
| 17:06.21 | nok | stew:why arent you answering? |
| 17:06.36 | jeward | esk> Okay, module-assistant installed. Is there documentatio0n somewhere? |
| 17:07.10 | stew | nok: did you let alsa probe for isa and legacy devices? |
| 17:07.13 | esk | tarzeau: 7 years old seems old to me |
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| 17:07.22 | stew | nok: did you get any output from lspci -n | grep 0401: |
| 17:07.41 | esk | jeward: it is pretty straightforward |
| 17:07.42 | nok | yes but didnot find anything....ok i found that I have a SBPRO ...I have the adressing, where can i enter it mannuelly |
| 17:07.46 | tarzeau | esk: i got one of 1991 |
| 17:07.58 | nok | stew:yes but didnot find anything....ok i found that I have a SBPRO ...I have the adressing, where can i enter it mannuelly |
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| 17:08.07 | esk | tarzeau: that belongs in a museum ;) |
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| 17:09.01 | esk | jeward: just run module-assistant (as root) and choose 'select' |
| 17:09.36 | automac_ | anyone know how I would adjust the user $PATH so that it's effective on login through (x|g|k)dm and not just when starting bash shell? |
| 17:09.42 | jeward | esk> Can't locate Text/CharWidth.pm in @INC |
| 17:09.58 | simonrvn | !installit |
| 17:09.58 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. if someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get |
| 17:10.02 | nok | stew:yes but didnot find anything....ok i found that I have a SBPRO ...I have the adressing, where can i enter it mannuelly |
| 17:10.38 | jeward | esk> That is a missing perl module? |
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| 17:11.02 | stew | nok: you need one of the snd-sb??? modules; /sbin/modprobe -l | grep snd-sb ; "/sbin/modinfo snd-sb16" or "/sbin/modinfo sb-sbawe" will tell you the available module parameters you can put them on the command line when you modprobe them |
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| 17:11.17 | stew | nok: if you find one that works, put it, with its parameters into /etc/modules |
| 17:11.33 | RvGaTe | good evening all |
| 17:12.02 | nok | ok wo...lol, im I supposed to already have theses modules or I have to download them? |
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| 17:12.20 | jeward | esk> Seems I need |
| 17:12.20 | jeward | Text::CharWidth |
| 17:12.26 | stew | nok: you already have them, as you will see when you run "/sbin/modprobe -l | grep snd-sb" |
| 17:12.32 | esk | jeward: sounds like it, it might require a dist-upgrade to get module-assistant to work |
| 17:12.42 | nok | stew:thanks a lot |
| 17:12.45 | stew | nok: i would try the sbawe driver first, then the sb16 |
| 17:12.51 | jeward | esk> Think that would instal |
| 17:12.51 | jeward | Text::CharWidth |
| 17:12.51 | jeward | l |
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| 17:14.03 | esk | jeward: it is possible that it is part of some other perl package that is installed by default |
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| 17:14.15 | nok | stew:ho do I try them ? |
| 17:14.40 | jeward | esk> dist-upgrade in progress. |
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| 17:15.16 | nok | stew:yes but how do I try them??? |
| 17:15.34 | laludelala | hallo! |
| 17:15.40 | jeward | esk> Think it will break Xfb? |
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| 17:16.14 | esk | jeward: yes, but hopefully you shouldn't need xfb anymore |
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| 17:17.07 | nok | stew:yes but how do I try the sounds drivers that I modprobed??? |
| 17:17.31 | laludelala | Hallo! |
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| 17:17.57 | stew | nok: i would first just try: "/sbin/modprobe snd-sbawe" and see if you get an error, and note the end of the output in "dmesg", if that doesn't work, remove it with modprobe -r snd-sbawe and try modprobe snd-sbawe port=220 irq=5 ... with whatever parameters you think your soundcard needs, the available parameters can be gotten from modinfo |
| 17:18.23 | laludelala | I run "icewm-gnome" and have some problems with xterm. The shortcut "Shift+PLUS" does not work |
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| 17:18.48 | laludelala | OK, it looks like if the Fn-Key is not working ... |
| 17:19.08 | stew | nok: if you get a soundcard correctly configured you should be able to adjust the volume with alsamixer ; you'll want to modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; then you should be able to "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" and hear static |
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| 17:23.49 | jeward | esk> Thanks. |
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| 17:25.15 | colter | I'm having problems with my Intel 855GM chipset. Tuxracer, for example, can draw about 1fps - it had worked flawlessly before. Now I have a complete new install (freshly-compiled kernel, and sarge install). |
| 17:25.31 | colter | Could somebody point me in the right direction? Missing kernel module, or misconfigured X? |
| 17:25.54 | nok | stew : ok, snd-sb-common is not bringing any error...how do I know if its really working? |
| 17:26.50 | liran | the /etc/modules.conf file is the list of kernel modules that my linux is loading always on bootup? |
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| 17:27.58 | nok | stew : ok, snd-sb-common is not bringing any error...how do I know if its really working? and they say /dev/dsp : no such device |
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| 17:29.20 | sterling | cleek |
| 17:29.35 | CleeK | hmm ? |
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| 17:30.09 | stew | nok: please stop repeating yourself. I don't think -common is really a driver but provides the common functionality of the other sb drivers, but i'm not sure. you need to load snd-pcm-oss befure /dev/dsp will work, if you have that loaded and its still not there then you don't have a working driver yet |
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| 17:30.59 | darkstego | I want the debian installer to get the contents of the cd from a usb drive rather than a cdrom drive, how do I do that? |
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| 17:31.34 | jonathan` | is there somewhere to view a sendmail log through debian? |
| 17:31.46 | cureless | darkstego: can you boot of usb? |
| 17:31.49 | dondelelcaro | jonathan`: less /var/log/mail/mail.log or similar. |
| 17:31.57 | nok | stew:sorry..thanks |
| 17:32.16 | darkstego | cureless: yes and I can start the debian installer |
| 17:32.22 | dondelelcaro | darkstego: you should be able in expert mode to point the installer at a filesystem. In the worst case, you can do it manually by editing your sources.list |
| 17:32.33 | cureless | darkstego: so you're booting off usb? |
| 17:32.40 | darkstego | cureless: yes |
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| 17:32.50 | darkstego | ok, I will try expert mode |
| 17:32.50 | cureless | darkstego: are you using the usb image? |
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| 17:33.07 | darkstego | usb image? no I am using the netinstaller cd image |
| 17:33.13 | darkstego | didn't know there was a cd image |
| 17:33.20 | cureless | darkstego: that might be a hint |
| 17:33.33 | jonathan` | hmm.. a bunch of "My unqualified host name (CSS-WORKFLOW) unkown; sleepying for retry and a bunch of ones unable to qualify my own domain name -- using short name |
| 17:34.26 | darkstego | it is hd-media, correct? |
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| 17:34.42 | nite613_ | If if do this: cd /dir1; cd dir2; cd dir3; where dir2 is a symlink XdirX, pwd shows me /dir1/dir2/dir3 Is there a command that shows me the "physical" filesystem path? Like /dir1/XdirX/dir3 ? |
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| 17:34.51 | darkstego | ok, thanks cureless |
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| 17:35.10 | cureless | darkstego: yes, hd-media |
| 17:35.12 | quad3d | esk: /boot/grub/device.map wasn't setup. update-grub or grub-install didn't work. had to "grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map" |
| 17:35.14 | jonathan` | is that maybe pulling the wrong hostname through a sendmail config or something? |
| 17:35.18 | dondelelcaro | nite613_: pwd |
| 17:35.23 | turdling | hi |
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| 17:35.29 | cureless | darkstego: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 17:35.32 | ouznext | hi turdling |
| 17:35.39 | quad3d | now server happily reboots w/o intervention :) |
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| 17:35.56 | turdling | hi ouzenext |
| 17:35.57 | gnu2it2 | what are the .initrd files? |
| 17:36.00 | nite613_ | dondelelcaro: read the question again? |
| 17:36.20 | jonathan` | oh, ouznext, my cacti keeps saying "SNMP not in use" at the top |
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| 17:36.28 | turdling | the red sox |
| 17:36.28 | jonathan` | from yesterday |
| 17:36.35 | nite613_ | shit. I'm getting the shell builtin pwd! |
| 17:36.42 | turdling | poo |
| 17:36.48 | jonathan` | i installed a version of SNMP and started it up, but still got the same error |
| 17:36.49 | quad3d | p |
| 17:36.50 | nite613_ | dondelelcaro: /bin/pwd returns the physical, shell returns the symlinks. Thanks for the pointer :) |
| 17:37.25 | nn- | is it advisable to remove man-db from the system and use only info? |
| 17:37.35 | cureless | nn-: no |
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| 17:37.39 | nn- | cureless: why not? |
| 17:37.44 | ouznext | jonathan`: when/where does it says that? |
| 17:37.55 | nn- | having two documentation system is the dumbest thing i can imagine |
| 17:37.57 | jonathan` | ouznext, up at the top of the "Devices" page |
| 17:38.05 | jonathan` | or rather, when i go into the full record of one of the devices |
| 17:38.22 | cureless | nn-: in that case remove info |
| 17:38.41 | dondelelcaro | nite613_: just be aware too that you may have bind mounts and similar, so be careful what you're using that information for |
| 17:38.56 | nite613_ | dondelelcaro: yes, good point |
| 17:38.58 | ttf_ | hi all - can somebody tell me where to find the archive key for backports.org? |
| 17:39.01 | cureless | nn-: but most of the time you might want to keep both. The are not completely redundant. |
| 17:39.23 | ouznext | is the device SNMP enabled ? (is the SNMPd running on your box?) Have you set correctly the community ? |
| 17:39.47 | nn- | cureless: I am so incredibly pissed off by the fact that i need both to have a complete documentation |
| 17:39.49 | jonathan` | ah -- the community, that must be the missing link |
| 17:40.00 | cureless | nn-: what are you talking about? |
| 17:40.05 | jonathan` | I was unsure what to set that too or if it was needed |
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| 17:40.35 | nn- | cureless: some programs come without manpages but only with info documentation |
| 17:40.38 | ouznext | nn-: are you talking about "info"? |
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| 17:40.47 | dondelelcaro | nn-: all programs in Debian should have manpages |
| 17:40.53 | n3storm | hi everyone |
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| 17:41.02 | n3storm | anybody here having fun with udev too? |
| 17:41.13 | cureless | nn-: programs need man pages in debian by "law" |
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| 17:41.25 | nn- | dondelelcaro: every now and then i stumble across man pages that say "see info foobar" |
| 17:41.38 | ouznext | yes! I agree with you nn- ! No other Unix uses info, so it's a problem when you come to a linux box and can't get the documentation in man format! I hate info... |
| 17:41.43 | jonathan` | ill guess ill dig through the fm and see what i gotta set it too :) |
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| 17:41.45 | pipeline | nn-: info and man serve different purposes |
| 17:41.51 | dondelelcaro | nn-: a lot of manpages reference the info manual, but they should have a normal manpage as well. |
| 17:41.53 | pipeline | nn-: info is comprehensive; man has just barely enough to get you by |
| 17:41.56 | cureless | nn-: also, realize that it's the package that has the info and/or man page, not the "man" or "info" systems themselves. |
| 17:42.00 | pipeline | nn-: info is hypertext, man is *always* a single page |
| 17:42.22 | cureless | pipeline: man can be hyperlinked, it depends on your viewer. |
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| 17:43.37 | ouznext | pipeline: i disagree, man refers to other pages through the "see also" section. Although it not hyperlinked, but it could be as easy as developping a pager that understand see also references as link to other pages... |
| 17:43.51 | pipeline | ouznext: It's still a fundamentally different format |
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| 17:43.58 | pipeline | ouznext: see wikipedia's article on hypertext :P |
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| 17:45.12 | ouznext | sure it's different, but I find it confusing. Personally I like standard things... man standard, info is GNU-standard, but is not available on every Unix natively |
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| 17:45.18 | nn- | info is complete bs and caused nothing but confusion in my opinion |
| 17:45.53 | cureless | nn-: if you need a gui / linked man viewer try tkman |
| 17:45.54 | jonathan` | hmm.. i can't find anything about what the community needs to be set to in cacti docs, or im just not looking on the right parts of it |
| 17:47.06 | ouznext | jonathan`: you have to set it to the community you set in your device snmpd (if it's your debian host, grep ^rocommunity /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf) |
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| 17:48.09 | ouznext | jonathan`: also, refer to you debian as "localhost" (or open snmp widely to your network) |
| 17:48.21 | ouznext | s/you/your/ |
| 17:48.33 | jonathan` | ouznext, k cool |
| 17:48.34 | simonrvn | hopefully just lan addresses ;) |
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| 17:49.11 | ouznext | yes, better |
| 17:49.12 | jonathan` | hmm.. there's no rocommunity in the conf |
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| 17:49.40 | jonathan` | is there supposed to be a default? |
| 17:49.40 | n3storm | anybody here having problems with udev? and has solved them? |
| 17:49.47 | jonathan` | want to make sure i didn't install the incorrect version, lol |
| 17:49.54 | unstable | !tell n3storm about anyone |
| 17:49.57 | tarzeau | !dolphinsex |
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| 17:50.00 | ouznext | ok, put the line "rocommunity public localhost" into the file, restart snmpd and check again the device status in Cacti |
| 17:50.25 | n3storm | I am having problems with udev |
| 17:50.28 | n3storm | lots of problems |
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| 17:50.35 | simonrvn | !tell n3storm -about ask |
| 17:50.39 | nn- | packages that come with info documentation will still install it, no matter whether info is available on the system or not, correct? |
| 17:50.41 | n3storm | and I would like to know if it's me I am doing wrong |
| 17:51.01 | ouznext | well, rocommunity is for SNMP v1, i believe. Don't know about SNMP v2 and v3... |
| 17:51.09 | n3storm | ok, I just wanted to be a bit poetical |
| 17:51.13 | simonrvn | v3 you have auth |
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| 17:51.28 | simonrvn | ... |
| 17:51.46 | yggdrasil | can debian help me be more popular with the ladies ? |
| 17:51.52 | unstable | !ladies |
| 17:51.55 | jonathan` | its NET-SNMP version 5.1.2 |
| 17:51.57 | unstable | !women |
| 17:51.57 | dpkg | methinks women is woman > 1, or HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux : http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO.html |
| 17:51.58 | pipeline | yggdrasil: If the ladies, are, in fact, men on the internet, then yes. |
| 17:52.06 | yggdrasil | Awesome |
| 17:52.07 | bipolar | can the Debian Bugtracking System take patches as attachments or should I paste them inline? |
| 17:52.18 | dondelelcaro | bipolar: it'll take attachments |
| 17:52.20 | unstable | yggdrasil: absolutely. yggdrasil debian users get all the women. |
| 17:52.24 | bipolar | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 17:52.25 | yggdrasil | nice nice |
| 17:52.27 | yggdrasil | im down then |
| 17:52.38 | simonrvn | yggdrasil: second time you've asked that in as many days. could you stop? thanks |
| 17:52.41 | dondelelcaro | yggdrasil: please stop asking totally useless questions in here. |
| 17:53.01 | nok | what is the command to configure ALSA??? |
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| 17:53.14 | yggdrasil | those questions are good for channel moralle |
| 17:53.20 | simonrvn | ... |
| 17:53.35 | jonathan` | ouznext, now i get SNMP error |
| 17:53.37 | simonrvn | nok: lose the extra ?. alsaconf |
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| 17:53.49 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@user-119b692.biz.mindspring.com] by dondelelcaro |
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| 17:53.58 | nok | simonrvn:than ks |
| 17:54.00 | TGoC | dondelelcaro on fire? |
| 17:54.00 | ouznext | ok, better ;-) |
| 17:54.13 | simonrvn | biz on top of it... |
| 17:54.26 | cire | I'd like to use my laptop as headset for my mobile phone. How would you do that. (I know, usually you won't do that) |
| 17:54.35 | ouznext | jonathan`: how do you refer to your device ? localhost? 127.0.0.1 or hostname ? |
| 17:54.53 | jonathan` | the hostname is 127.0.0.1 and community is localhost |
| 17:55.30 | ouznext | the community in the line I told you to write is "public", not "localhost". |
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| 17:55.46 | simonrvn | fucking rotten zombified hosts. sorry |
| 17:56.01 | jonathan` | the line says "rocommunity public localhost" |
| 17:56.23 | jonathan` | ok |
| 17:56.27 | jonathan` | with public it looks good |
| 17:56.32 | ouznext | so the community is "public", allowed only for host localhost (the box itself) |
| 17:56.38 | jonathan` | has the hostname shown, uptime, and system now |
| 17:56.42 | ouznext | ok ;-) |
| 17:56.51 | nok | what is the best fil manager for X server? |
| 17:56.52 | jonathan` | time to try and create a graph |
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| 17:56.58 | TGoC | I read a news article today that women gain weight when starting going to live with friend('s) |
| 17:57.06 | simonrvn | nok: your shell |
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| 17:57.15 | Aerta | is there a command like xsetroot that will let me set my desktop background from the command line? |
| 17:57.24 | ouznext | nok: bash/ksh/sh... |
| 17:57.25 | Aerta | and prevent gnome from stomping on it? |
| 17:57.25 | dondelelcaro | Aerta: xsetbg, feh, etc. |
| 17:57.40 | jonathan` | ouznext, now the graphs aren't even showing up at all |
| 17:57.45 | dondelelcaro | Aerta: use gnome to set it if you're using gnome. |
| 17:58.07 | jonathan` | ouznext, earlier it was showing them under Associated Graph Templates and "Is Being Graphed" -- not under the graphs tab.. now they don't show up on either |
| 17:58.08 | Aerta | dondelelcaro: my gf wants pictures to change every so often and gnome doesn't do that |
| 17:58.32 | dondelelcaro | Aerta: then just do it with feh or similar, and disable gnome's background setup... |
| 17:58.44 | ouznext | jonathan`: have a look at www.cacti.net for documentation about adding graphs. (it's not difficult, but it's not that easy, and is not the topic of this channel) |
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| 17:59.01 | Aerta | dondelelcaro: I was looking around for a way to do that... |
| 17:59.21 | jonathan` | ouznext, will do -- thanks for as much help as you've given on it :) |
| 17:59.22 | dondelelcaro | Aerta: well, the trivial way is to remove gnome; otherwise, just try writing to the root image, and see if it stays |
| 18:00.00 | Aerta | dondelelcaro: never even see the image |
| 18:00.19 | dondelelcaro | s/image/window/ |
| 18:00.46 | oskie | TGoC: ok, but that isn't very useful to know, is it? |
| 18:01.18 | Aerta | dondelelcaro: ? xloadimage will display the image fine but when I try same image with xsetbg no luck |
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| 18:02.05 | dondelelcaro | Aerta: no, I meant that it was the 'root window' not the 'root image' |
| 18:02.14 | dondelelcaro | Aerta: I was correcting myself, not you. |
| 18:02.31 | nok | how can i use my usb and scsy hard disc? |
| 18:02.42 | Aerta | dondelelcaro: ah |
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| 18:09.15 | grendal_prime | hey if i wanted to fire up x11vnc every time a user logs on i would put that in the xstartup file? |
| 18:09.26 | grendal_prime | or xsession? |
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| 18:09.48 | jonathan` | perhaps this isn't the right channel for this, but maybe someone is knowledgeable enough for an easy fix for this, but my sendmail keeps giving me these errors: "My unqualified host name (CSS-WORKFLOW) unknown; sleeping for retry" and "unable to qualify my own domain name (CSS-WORKFLOW) -- using short name" |
| 18:10.07 | janus | add the hostname to /etc/hosts and try again |
| 18:10.12 | janus | sounds like a dns issue |
| 18:10.21 | rovragge | how can I record what other apps play on my soundcard to a wav file? |
| 18:10.23 | jonathan` | janus, yeah, i have the hostname in the hosts file |
| 18:10.33 | nok | ok once I have my sound module....what do I do???? |
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| 18:10.37 | Sonny | an somebody tell me how to use apt-watch? |
| 18:10.43 | cahoot | rovragge: arecord |
| 18:10.50 | cahoot | rovragge: or ecasound |
| 18:11.18 | wendell3_ | Apologies if this isn't directly Debian-related: Can someone explain to me how to create a small script to look at a directory and individually zip-compress (in an individual archive) files in it? |
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| 18:11.33 | wendell3_ | (shell script, of course) |
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| 18:11.52 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:11.52 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:12.15 | \amethyst | wendell3_: for x in dir/*; do zip $f.zip $f; done |
| 18:12.33 | wendell3_ | amethyst: Awesome. Thank you |
| 18:12.43 | \amethyst | wendell3_: if you want to recurse into subdirectories... |
| 18:12.46 | pizzahead | for some reason when my machine boots up its loading the primary partition as read only |
| 18:12.58 | pizzahead | causing the system to not really fully boot, its reiserfs |
| 18:12.59 | pizzahead | any ideas? |
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| 18:13.16 | wendell3_ | amethyst: Not necessary :) |
| 18:13.28 | jonathan` | just the IP and hostname is fine for /etc/hosts correct? |
| 18:13.29 | Thanatermesis | exist a command for know the posible upgrades available ? |
| 18:13.29 | cureless | pizzahead: it might have done that because it encountered an error, now you have to fix it by hand before proceeding. |
| 18:13.40 | \amethyst | wendell3_: if you need to in the future, find dir -type f -exec zip '{}.zip' '{}' ';' |
| 18:13.42 | rovragge | cahoot: hmm that's for recording from line-in or cd or so, but I want to record what another program is outputting to the soundcard |
| 18:13.50 | \amethyst | wendell3_: err |
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| 18:13.52 | Thanatermesis | jonathan` yes |
| 18:13.54 | \amethyst | wendell3_: for f in dir/*; do zip $f.zip $f; done |
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| 18:13.59 | cahoot | rovragge: wrong |
| 18:14.05 | wendell3_ | Ah, ace. Cheers |
| 18:14.14 | pizzahead | cureless: yea thats what had happened and i repaired and rebuilt the tree but after that I rebooted and now it doesnt' report any errors, the normal boot sequence occurs with daemons being loaded etc. but for any file it has to modify it reports that the fs was mounted read only |
| 18:14.15 | Thanatermesis | \amethyst zip -r ? |
| 18:14.16 | rovragge | cahoot: ok.. how do I use arecord to do this then? |
| 18:14.25 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: he wants to zip each file separately |
| 18:14.26 | cureless | cahoot: set the the recording device in your mixer apropriatelly |
| 18:14.29 | jonathan` | and do any inet services need to be restarted at all for the change to take effect? |
| 18:14.32 | Thanatermesis | oh, ok |
| 18:14.58 | \amethyst | jonathan`: nope |
| 18:15.03 | janus | jonathan`, depends on how you set up sendmail |
| 18:15.12 | jonathan` | janus, just installed it through apt |
| 18:15.21 | cureless | pizzahead: there's something you haven't done yet, don't know what. You'll need to check the logs. Is it not mounting the remaining partitions? Does the reiserfs mount give you an error? |
| 18:15.24 | janus | jonathan`, should be fine then |
| 18:15.25 | jonathan` | never really had to do anything past that point |
| 18:15.25 | \amethyst | err... why sendmail? |
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| 18:15.42 | cureless | rovragge: just record. |
| 18:15.45 | jonathan` | \amethyst, seemed like it was the easiest to use with php |
| 18:15.59 | Thanatermesis | exist a command for know the posible upgrades available ? |
| 18:15.59 | cureless | rovragge: btw, some soundcards do not support this feature. (playing and recording at the same time) |
| 18:16.05 | nok | how do I install a .deb file? |
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| 18:16.13 | cureless | nok: deb -i file.deb |
| 18:16.20 | Thanatermesis | nok dpkg -i file ; apt-get -f install |
| 18:16.22 | nok | thanks |
| 18:16.22 | cureless | I mean |
| 18:16.23 | cureless | dpkg |
| 18:16.26 | cahoot | rovragge: like arecord -D Audigy -f cd test.wav |
| 18:16.34 | pizzahead | cureless: im talking about the boot partition. prior to this problem i had an issue with the fs so i repaired and rebuilt the tree and the root partition is fine now but when i booted back up it mounts the partition fine but seems to mount it read only and tries to finish it's loading process |
| 18:16.49 | Thanatermesis | how to know the posible upgrades available ? |
| 18:16.54 | cureless | pizzahead: do you have other partitions? |
| 18:16.59 | pizzahead | nope, just a swap |
| 18:17.06 | pizzahead | the system itself acts like thats how it should be, no errors |
| 18:17.09 | cahoot | rovragge: I suppose you need full duplex |
| 18:17.10 | cureless | Thanatermesis: stop repeating and make a question that we can understand |
| 18:17.15 | pizzahead | but im not sure why its loading it read only to begin with |
| 18:17.22 | nok | cureless:its not working??? |
| 18:17.25 | pizzahead | would be a grub issue i think? |
| 18:17.26 | \amethyst | pizzahead: any errors in the logs? |
| 18:17.32 | nok | ok thjanks |
| 18:17.40 | pizzahead | no logs, the file system is read only :) |
| 18:17.44 | cureless | pizzahead: try mount -o remount,rw / (if I remember syntax correctly) |
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| 18:18.03 | \amethyst | pizzahead: wait, is it /boot or / that's getting mounted ro? |
| 18:18.14 | pizzahead | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.17 | grendal_prime | hey if i wanted to fire up x11vnc every time a user logs on i would put that in the xstartup file? |
| 18:18.17 | rovragge | cahoot: what about apps that try to open the sound device exclusively (like the flash plugin) |
| 18:18.18 | cureless | pizzahead: the main partition is always loaded read only, then switched to rw. |
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| 18:18.24 | Thanatermesis | cureless i need to obtain a list of packages available for upgrade (when apt-get dist-upgrade for example), but without anything more... just the list |
| 18:18.27 | nok | How can I load my usb external disk??? |
| 18:18.30 | pizzahead | cureless: yea to load the kernel, it doesnt seem to then remount it |
| 18:18.40 | \amethyst | pizzahead: init should be switching to rw... are you booting with init=/bin/sh or something like that? |
| 18:18.53 | cureless | Thanatermesis: apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 18:18.54 | \amethyst | pizzahead: Are you getting the normal daemons starting up and stuff |
| 18:18.55 | \amethyst | ? |
| 18:18.57 | pizzahead | amethyst: not trying to boot diffenrelty then a normal start up |
| 18:19.11 | cahoot | rovragge: did you try? |
| 18:19.13 | pizzahead | kind of, a bunch report probelms because they are trying to modify or write to files and the system is read only |
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| 18:19.33 | cureless | pizzahead: did you try the remount?? |
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| 18:20.01 | pizzahead | cureless: cant get to a prompt |
| 18:20.09 | Thanatermesis | cureless "-u" ask me if i want to continue |
| 18:20.15 | cureless | pizzahead: where do you get to? |
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| 18:20.22 | cureless | Thanatermesis: press control-C |
| 18:20.37 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 18:20.52 | Thanatermesis | but i need just the list... because i want to use it in a script for "register" |
| 18:20.55 | peritus | is there a nice GUI for apache(2) configuration? |
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| 18:21.11 | \amethyst | pizzahead: the remount should be happening shortly after fsck, in /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh |
| 18:21.13 | cahoot | rovragge: got an url to test? |
| 18:21.28 | cureless | Thanatermesis: have you tried to read the man page? |
| 18:21.50 | Thanatermesis | no... let me check |
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| 18:22.01 | cureless | Thanatermesis: try -s, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act, see which one works best. Parse the output with sed/awk/grep ,etc if you need something specific. |
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| 18:22.24 | Thanatermesis | aha, this is what i want, thx :) |
| 18:22.40 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: do you want a list of everything that apt-get upgrade would upgrade, or a list of all upgradable packages? |
| 18:23.53 | Thanatermesis | \amethyst i want just a simple list of things for upgrade... for know in every moment (x time) if exist and what exactly pacakges for upgrade |
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| 18:24.47 | rovragge | cahoot: I [D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[C[C[Chave opensound and alsa loaded simultaenously so I have some additional problems getting oss emulation to work for alsa when shutting down the opensound drivers |
| 18:24.48 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: you might also want to look at aptitude search ~U |
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| 18:25.28 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: which simply lists all installed packages of which a newer version is available |
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| 18:26.41 | cahoot | rovragge: sorry don't know what opensound is |
| 18:26.51 | rovragge | cahoot: www.opensound.com |
| 18:26.54 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: but that won't list new dependencies, packages that should be removed, etc. |
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| 18:27.24 | Thanatermesis | mmh, and any way to know if exist packages to not is posible to upgrade because X conflict ? |
| 18:27.55 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: use what cureless suggested in that case |
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| 18:28.09 | Thanatermesis | apt-get dist-upgrade -s ? |
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| 18:28.19 | cahoot | rovragge: Ah I see - remember bying a license from them 8-10 years ago |
| 18:28.24 | Thanatermesis | i think to its good for use this.. with a little parse using awk and sed... |
| 18:28.27 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: yes |
| 18:29.46 | cahoot | rovragge: you have no plain soundblaster I take it |
| 18:29.51 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, and with a "apt-get dist-upgrade" it shows the packages to has a candidate for upgrade but not is posible to upgrade because a broken dependency ? this is the "holded" packages to sometimes are listed ? |
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| 18:30.40 | simonrvn | no, they're held because some deps aren't upgradable yet (usually) |
| 18:31.00 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: the man page says that broken packages are in [square brackets], but I'm not sure which packages that includes |
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| 18:31.16 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: I haven't used -s with dist-upgrade before... I don't use dist-upgrade very much |
| 18:31.25 | rafael | hey when I do a apt-file update it gets this file http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/Contents-i386.gz then, after that, it tries to get the file http://security.debian.org//dists/stable/updates/Contents-i386.gz but then 15:30:25 ERROR 404: Not Found. happens and nothing else gets done |
| 18:31.38 | Thanatermesis | you are more safe then \amethyst, hehe |
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| 18:31.41 | \amethyst | Thanatermesis: I usually use aptitude |
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| 18:32.01 | simonrvn | dselect-upgrade is the better bet anyway (with apt) |
| 18:32.03 | Thanatermesis | ah, with aptitude... i have only used aptitude in front-end on reality |
| 18:32.09 | rovragge | cahoot: now I've tried your suggestion. but arecord won't record when my app is running and vice versa the app won't play any sound if arecord is running. When I quit arecord, the app starts outputting sound again. |
| 18:32.20 | rovragge | cahoot: this is on alsa now |
| 18:32.29 | simonrvn | !dmix |
| 18:32.30 | dpkg | from memory, dmix is an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 18:32.47 | simonrvn | rovragge: ^^ |
| 18:32.51 | rafael | :( |
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| 18:33.22 | \amethyst | rovragge: what is your card? |
| 18:33.29 | rovragge | sblive |
| 18:34.04 | \amethyst | rovragge: with your sound drivers as modules? |
| 18:34.19 | rovragge | yes |
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| 18:34.31 | \amethyst | rovragge: what does lsmod | grep "^snd " say? |
| 18:34.38 | rovragge | simonrvn: dmix sounds nasty just skips in the sound |
| 18:34.40 | cahoot | rovragge: grep -i playback /proc/asound/pcm |
| 18:34.41 | \amethyst | should be just one line |
| 18:34.56 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
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| 18:35.19 | simonrvn | thought it might help. well, it is s/w multiplexing after all.. |
| 18:35.20 | rovragge | simonrvn: I used the .asoundrc from alsa wiki |
| 18:35.37 | \amethyst | sblive should be able to do h/w multiplexing |
| 18:35.41 | rovragge | simonrvn: I even have a dsnoop + dmix device |
| 18:35.44 | \amethyst | I don't use any mixer with mine |
| 18:35.51 | lzhang | I'm trying to set up a queue and I'm getting WARNING[13984] app_queue.c: Unable to join queue 'pickupq' |
| 18:36.10 | cahoot | rovragge: if you have a rather late 2.6 kernel I'd suggest disabling the .asoundrc |
| 18:36.22 | rovragge | cahoot: why? |
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| 18:37.03 | cahoot | rovragge: chances are you don't need it - might just confuse - in alsa 1.0.10 and later dmix is enabled |
| 18:37.42 | cahoot | rovragge: grep -i playback /proc/asound/pcm |
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| 18:39.36 | Hagfish | /usr/bin/rsync -a --delete --numeric-ids --relative --delete-excluded /root/ /foo/bar/weekly.0/./ |
| 18:39.52 | Hagfish | will that create the "root" subdirectory in the backup? |
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| 18:40.42 | \amethyst | Hagfish: that's what --relative means |
| 18:41.04 | Hagfish | the man page was saying something complicated about /root and /root/ being different |
| 18:41.46 | Hagfish | "A trailing slash on the source changes this behavior to avoid creating an additional directory level at the destination." |
| 18:41.51 | lepton | Hagfish: very different with rsync |
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| 18:42.11 | Hagfish | lepton: i'm starting to realise this |
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| 18:42.23 | lepton | Hagfish: the trailing slash let's one copy entire hierarchies. very useful |
| 18:42.35 | Hagfish | indeed |
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| 18:42.51 | lepton | I've used it many times to backup |
| 18:43.04 | lepton | I actually do backups |
| 18:43.10 | Hagfish | what if i want it to create the "root" directory, not just copy the contents? |
| 18:43.26 | Thanatermesis | apt-get dist-upgrade -s | sed 's/^Reading\ package.*$//g' | sed 's/Building\ depend.*$//g' | sed 's/Inst\ .*$//g' | sed 's/Conf\ .*$//g' | sed '/^$/d' |
| 18:43.26 | Thanatermesis | mmmmh.. is posible to use all this parts of sed in only one sed command ? |
| 18:43.39 | lepton | Thanatermesis: sure |
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| 18:43.48 | aleph0 | hello all |
| 18:43.53 | Auzer | I just installed a new debian system, did apt-get upgrade, apt-get update (STABLE), then installed mysql -common -client and -server. While installing -server, it complained there wasn't enough space in var/lib/mysql |
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| 18:44.15 | lepton | Hagfish: create root? how could you not have a root dir? |
| 18:44.31 | Auzer | there's about 2.5GB free, and 'df' reports -755491057072 1-k blocks... (yes, negative) |
| 18:44.37 | Hagfish | lepton: i want to create it on the backup drive |
| 18:44.47 | lepton | Hagfish: so you want to rsync -ax / /some/other/path/ ? |
| 18:45.00 | Hagfish | no |
| 18:45.04 | Hagfish | i gave a bad example |
| 18:45.09 | aleph0 | I have quick question. how can I force my system to think it has a different IP address than it does. (I mean: similar to overriding DNS entries in /etc/hosts). I want all queries to a certain IP to be routed back to me and then acted upon as if it was my IP. |
| 18:45.14 | Thanatermesis | lepton any example ? |
| 18:45.19 | lepton | Hagfish: mount the backup drive at (e.g.) /mnt/backup |
| 18:45.24 | Hagfish | i want to create foo/ in /some/other/path/ |
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| 18:45.33 | TiKiTaKi | hello |
| 18:45.39 | TiKiTaKi | my os was compromised |
| 18:45.47 | aleph0 | so I need 2 IPs - one real - the other just as a dummy. |
| 18:45.50 | TiKiTaKi | i got processes like root 15835 0.0 0.0 3444 1712 ? S 20:08 0:00 \õ¡ \õ¡P$å¿?Öï¡4$å¿gìô¡? |
| 18:46.03 | lepton | Hagfish: ok, then rsync -ax /foo/ /some/other/path/foo/ |
| 18:46.09 | TiKiTaKi | and other sshd was installed by someone |
| 18:46.10 | janus | ifconfig eth0:1 <IP> netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:46.14 | TiKiTaKi | anyone know what is that? |
| 18:46.21 | janus | create the ip as alias? |
| 18:46.27 | janus | maybe that helps? |
| 18:46.29 | \amethyst | lepton: that won't create foo/ will it? |
| 18:46.37 | lepton | \amethyst: why not? |
| 18:46.56 | aleph0 | how do you mean? "as an alias" |
| 18:46.57 | lepton | \amethyst: simple to test with some small dir on a local disk |
| 18:46.59 | Hagfish | lepton: thanks, and what if foo/ doesn't exist on the remote location? |
| 18:47.04 | \amethyst | lepton: I just tested it |
| 18:47.21 | janus | aleph0, eth0:1 could be created as a secondary ip on eth0 |
| 18:47.39 | aleph0 | ah exactly what I need. thanks. I'll go try it out |
| 18:47.53 | Auzer | I just installed a new debian system, did apt-get upgrade, apt-get update (STABLE), then installed mysql -common -client and -server. While installing -server, it complained there wasn't enough space in var/lib/mysql... there's about 2.5GB free, and 'df' reports -755491057072 1-k blocks... (yes, negative) |
| 18:48.05 | PowerPC | where would i find a buisness card iso for debian sid? |
| 18:48.06 | lepton | \amethyst: and it worked, didn't it? |
| 18:48.08 | Auzer | ironically, my 'Use%' on that drive is 7% |
| 18:48.25 | \amethyst | lepton: you need to leave out the slash, or use --relative, or both |
| 18:48.50 | janus | Auzer, try df -h and df -i to see if there are any problems on other partitions |
| 18:48.50 | lepton | \amethyst: what? I disagree |
| 18:48.50 | \amethyst | lepton: rsync -ax foo/ bar/ copies the contents of foo into bar |
| 18:49.13 | Auzer | the other drive reports a similar problem |
| 18:49.17 | lepton | \amethyst: I know what it does. I've run that command 100s of times |
| 18:49.25 | \amethyst | lepton: but Hagfish wanted to create the foo directory under bad |
| 18:49.29 | \amethyst | err, under bar |
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| 18:49.43 | lepton | just test it out and convince yourself how it works |
| 18:49.45 | Auzer | -971644604920k on hdb1 hehe |
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| 18:50.11 | Auzer | hda1 366528 Inodes, hdb1 471424 Inodes |
| 18:50.17 | janus | Auzer, mmm never seen that before :-) could you post the full output? |
| 18:50.35 | Auzer | it's a different machine, you want a full line from it? |
| 18:50.39 | Auzer | I'll type it if you want |
| 18:50.49 | janus | Auzer, if you could.... |
| 18:51.29 | Auzer | Filesystem: /dev/hda1, Inodes 366528, IUsed 15338, IFree 351190, IUse% 5%, Mounted on / |
| 18:51.37 | Auzer | (that's one line from df -i) |
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| 18:52.53 | TiKiTaKi | does anyone can help me ? |
| 18:52.55 | Auzer | Filesystem: /dev/hda1, Size -755491057072k, Used 1.0k, Avail 0.0k, Use% 7%, Mounted on / |
| 18:53.05 | Auzer | (that's one line from df -h) |
| 18:53.10 | TiKiTaKi | i habe a fresh installation of debian 3.1 and i was compromised |
| 18:53.30 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi how did that happen? |
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| 18:53.41 | Sonny | hi, how can you tell apt-watch to download just security upgrades? |
| 18:53.48 | Auzer | no, his process names are messed up |
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| 18:53.56 | Auzer | and he's freaking out |
| 18:54.20 | Auzer | are you chinese or something? what locale are you using? |
| 18:54.33 | janus | Auzer, could you do an fdisk -l /dev/hda ? |
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| 18:54.57 | Auzer | Sure thing |
| 18:55.11 | PowerPC | Anyone: Where can i find a debian sid(unstable) buisness card iso? |
| 18:55.19 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi ? |
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| 18:55.37 | Ronin | PowerPC: dont think there is one |
| 18:55.54 | Auzer | Device /dev/hda1, Boot *, Start 1, End 727, Blocks 2931232+, Id 83, System Linux |
| 18:56.00 | PowerPC | aww...netinst? |
| 18:56.01 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx |
| 18:56.11 | kitten | Er. Wrong window. |
| 18:56.20 | automat | anyone here use sylpheed? |
| 18:56.25 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx my root passwd has been changed , and strange processes are listed |
| 18:56.25 | TiKiTaKi | root 15835 0.0 0.0 3444 1712 ? S 20:08 0:00 \õ¡ \õ¡P$å¿?Öï¡4$å¿gìô¡? |
| 18:56.43 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx i also see a psyBNC binded in one of my ports |
| 18:56.44 | nile | can someone recommend a console image viewer? no svga stuff, just really basic image->ascii conversion |
| 18:56.53 | Auzer | Device /dev/hda2 and /dec/hda5 both start at 728 and end at 847 |
| 18:57.04 | quad3d | haha |
| 18:57.06 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi do you know how to manually root a machine with physical access? |
| 18:57.26 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi actually, pull the box from your network first. |
| 18:57.32 | Auzer | damn I bet I know why this is happening |
| 18:57.37 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx nope , that is a remote machine , what could happen after fresh installation of debian 3.1 |
| 18:57.42 | Ronin | PowerPC: as i recall its netinstall then change sources |
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| 18:57.56 | TiKiTaKi | there must be a whole in debian somewhere |
| 18:58.06 | quad3d | too much porn does it |
| 18:58.09 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi or somebody bruteforced ssh |
| 18:58.09 | Auzer | right before I did this, I ran a ridiculous compaq utility (the ONLY WAY to change the IRQ of the network card... there is *no* BIOS ; ;) |
| 18:58.47 | Auzer | anyhow I think that utility tried to make a partition for it's data, compaq is so retarded |
| 18:58.53 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi notwithstanding... you need to get root back and isolate the intrustion. |
| 18:58.54 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx i see in logs . in /var/log/messages and no logs |
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| 18:59.20 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx but i dont know a source of mistake |
| 18:59.25 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi yeah, somebody got you. |
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| 18:59.49 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi how did you do the install... onsite? |
| 19:00.05 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx i have bought a machine |
| 19:00.14 | TiKiTaKi | and guys in datacenter installed debian |
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| 19:00.58 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi hmm. |
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| 19:01.14 | TiKiTaKi | i can run |
| 19:01.18 | TiKiTaKi | a rescue mode, |
| 19:01.20 | TiKiTaKi | what is that |
| 19:01.42 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi probably single user mode. |
| 19:01.50 | janus | Auzer, please let me know if this compaq thing really messed up your partition layout |
| 19:01.59 | Auzer | I think it did |
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| 19:02.08 | Auzer | I had 2 partitions on that drive, and there were 3 |
| 19:02.20 | Auzer | one was pretty small, so I feel certain that's what it was |
| 19:02.33 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi there is a possibility that the datacenter got physically comprimised. |
| 19:02.44 | Auzer | also, it was the first reboot after using the utility (I had to use it to resolve an IRQ conflict) |
| 19:03.14 | janus | Auzer, not sure why a compaq irq util would want to change the filesystem.... |
| 19:03.39 | Auzer | I think it tries to manifest itself on the HDD or something -_- |
| 19:03.54 | jonathan` | !confuse me |
| 19:03.55 | dpkg | No, them are my mushroom today, jonathan`? lederhosen of the democracy of mongolia with extra cream |
| 19:04.27 | Auzer | it's like they tried to save money on the BIOS chips by requiring a partition or something? really stupid |
| 19:04.30 | jonathan` | i praise whoever wrote that function in, lol |
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| 19:04.58 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx i can run server in rescue mode |
| 19:05.07 | TiKiTaKi | but how i will have access to it |
| 19:05.08 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi try it. |
| 19:05.13 | TiKiTaKi | remote?! |
| 19:05.42 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi ahh... you probably need the people in the datacenter to reinstall deb. |
| 19:05.47 | faye77 | are there plans to include haproxy to debian? http://w.ods.org/haproxy/ |
| 19:05.52 | nok | can I install a application with the extension tar.gz???? |
| 19:06.07 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi you have user access, but no root? |
| 19:06.22 | Auzer | nok - probably... if you unarchive it |
| 19:06.25 | TiKiTaKi | i have rebooted server. still got shit |
| 19:06.30 | TiKiTaKi | yes |
| 19:06.37 | TiKiTaKi | i got user access and i see all processes running |
| 19:06.43 | Auzer | TiKiTaKi - It's not windows, rebooting doesn't fix serious problems... hehe |
| 19:06.44 | TiKiTaKi | root 1634 0.0 0.0 3440 1708 ? S 21:04 0:00 ?ø¡ ?ø¡?lø¿??ó¡dlø¿g?ø¡? |
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| 19:06.56 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi how did you reboot it? |
| 19:07.00 | TiKiTaKi | i dont know how to fix |
| 19:07.11 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx from a control pannel , there is a tool for it |
| 19:07.18 | TiKiTaKi | i can rebot or run a rescue mode. |
| 19:07.51 | nok | Auzer:thanks |
| 19:07.52 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi if you run rescue mode, and it does not bring up ssh, you will need the datacenter people to reboot for you. |
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| 19:08.01 | shogunx | sshd rather |
| 19:08.16 | TiKiTaKi | now is running up a faked sshd |
| 19:08.29 | TiKiTaKi | server:/usr/local/sbin# whereis sshd |
| 19:08.29 | TiKiTaKi | sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd /usr/share/man/man8/sshd.8.gz |
| 19:08.41 | TiKiTaKi | sorry |
| 19:08.44 | TiKiTaKi | no this server |
| 19:08.47 | TiKiTaKi | this one : |
| 19:08.47 | TiKiTaKi | admin@server:~$ whereis sshd |
| 19:08.47 | TiKiTaKi | sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd /usr/local/sbin/sshd |
| 19:08.53 | TiKiTaKi | 2 sshd! |
| 19:08.56 | janus | TiKiTaKi, boot a knoppix cd, change the root password and sort out te problems |
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| 19:09.06 | Ronin | janus: remote machine |
| 19:09.09 | TiKiTaKi | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3936809 Apr 7 17:49 /usr/sbin/sshd , it was modified, compromised |
| 19:09.10 | shogunx | janus the box in not at his location. |
| 19:09.10 | Auzer | janus - I don't think he has physical access |
| 19:09.26 | TiKiTaKi | it is a remote machine , i can run rescue mode or reboot |
| 19:09.30 | janus | nobody at the data center to put in a cd? |
| 19:10.04 | Auzer | TiKiTaKi - I think we established that |
| 19:10.04 | shogunx | /usr/local/sbin/sshd is one someone compiled... probably patched. |
| 19:10.05 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: if it's a machine that has been compromised, there is only one way forward. Back up the data that you absolutely must salvage, and reinstall. |
| 19:10.07 | shogunx | dondelelcaro is right. |
| 19:10.10 | TiKiTaKi | my god |
| 19:10.12 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: you can't be sure that you've managed to remove all of the rootkit/holes, etc. unless you do that. |
| 19:10.13 | Auzer | I concur |
| 19:10.37 | TiKiTaKi | dondelelcaro i wil run netstat |
| 19:10.43 | Auzer | that'll fix it. |
| 19:10.43 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: that won't helpp |
| 19:10.45 | shogunx | dondelelcaro the real issue here is finding how it got comprimised, so it does not get that way again. |
| 19:10.47 | TiKiTaKi | and i will see what is inside my system i just need a root access |
| 19:10.48 | Ronin | Auzer: heh |
| 19:10.52 | TiKiTaKi | why ? |
| 19:11.00 | Auzer | sarcasm~ |
| 19:11.03 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: because netstat could be broken as well. Anything that you see is compromised. |
| 19:11.28 | TiKiTaKi | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 98156 Apr 23 2004 /bin/netstat |
| 19:11.33 | TiKiTaKi | not broken , date is real |
| 19:11.34 | Auzer | TiKiTaKi - You are losing time RIGHT NOW. Go back up your things immediately. |
| 19:11.55 | TiKiTaKi | i will try that rescue mode |
| 19:12.04 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: that doesn't mean anything; it's trivial to touch -d 'Apr 23 2004' /bin/netstat |
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| 19:12.36 | Auzer | dondelelcaro - he doesn't want to listen, I think it's an outlet for complaints |
| 19:12.37 | TiKiTaKi | right |
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| 19:12.52 | Auzer | You need to back up everything and reinstall |
| 19:13.01 | Auzer | at least back up your data before you possibly lose more |
| 19:13.06 | shogunx | dondelelcaro you think he should do a backup then forensics? TikiTaki: were you using a strong password? |
| 19:13.16 | Auzer | then you can fiddle around and decompile what the attacker did |
| 19:13.23 | TiKiTaKi | how can check what was a reason of this compromise |
| 19:13.28 | dondelelcaro | shogunx: that's what I'd do. take the box down, image the disks, reinstall, then do forensics. |
| 19:13.43 | TiKiTaKi | shogunx yes |
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| 19:13.47 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: you figure that out after you've imaged the disks involved and reinstalled the machine. |
| 19:14.02 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: forensics on a machine that has been compromised are useless |
| 19:14.29 | TiKiTaKi | forensics? |
| 19:14.29 | dondelelcaro | you have to examine the disks when you're not booting off of them on a machine which has not been affected. |
| 19:14.48 | shogunx | TiKiTaKi how well do you trust the datacenter your machine is in, and did you pay your bill to the ontime? |
| 19:14.51 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: forensics is figuring out how the machine was compromised; what root kits were installed, etc. |
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| 19:15.13 | TiKiTaKi | i see |
| 19:15.27 | TiKiTaKi | ok i got |
| 19:15.34 | TiKiTaKi | rescue mode |
| 19:15.37 | dondelelcaro | that's something you do at your leisure, after you've reinstalled the machine and brought it back up. |
| 19:15.40 | TiKiTaKi | i will look into |
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| 19:16.36 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: you don't need to go into rescue mode. Shut down the machine; image the disks; reinstall the OS, restore your non-executable data. Then figure out how the machine was compromised using the disk images. |
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| 19:17.35 | dondelelcaro | in a datacenter, you typically do this by offing the box; having them verify that it's off, shiping replacement disks (or going there yourself), having them ship you the compromised disks. |
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| 19:18.23 | janus | dondelelcaro, kvm's help as well ;-) |
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| 19:18.42 | dondelelcaro | janus: not too much in this case, cause you generally need to physically replace the disks |
| 19:18.53 | TiKiTaKi | dondelelcaro yes thats a good idea, but i got only one hard drive on raid |
| 19:18.56 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, that's what you can do when you're not there physically) |
| 19:19.09 | dondelelcaro | TiKiTaKi: doesn't have anything to do with that... |
| 19:19.13 | janus | dondelelcaro, agreed. of course it depend on how much damage has been done |
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| 19:19.22 | dondelelcaro | janus: the issue is that you can't tell |
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| 19:20.06 | dondelelcaro | janus: until you've mounted those drives using an OS that isn't compromised, nothing you see can be trusted |
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| 19:20.21 | janus | dondelelcaro, true |
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| 19:20.34 | janus | dondelelcaro, knoppix can help though |
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| 19:20.40 | shogunx | dondelelcaro could he image the disks from a chroot environment? |
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| 19:20.49 | Omega16 | i receive an error on a debian box! command : openssl genrsa -out private.key 1024 ! Error: Generating RSA private key, 1024 bit long modulus |
| 19:20.49 | Omega16 | ..........++++++ |
| 19:20.49 | Omega16 | ...++++++ |
| 19:20.49 | Omega16 | e is 65537 (0x10001) |
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| 19:20.57 | dondelelcaro | shogunx: if you could boot off of RO media, yes... |
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| 19:21.00 | Omega16 | sorry |
| 19:21.10 | dondelelcaro | Omega16: please don't paste here; see /topic |
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| 19:21.33 | kyo | hi |
| 19:21.37 | hydride | I'm trying to ./configure UltimateIRCD on my debian box, when it asks me which c compiler I want I specify gcc and it says GCC is not installed or broken, it's installed. so how do I fix it? |
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| 19:22.02 | dondelelcaro | !b-e hydride |
| 19:22.02 | dpkg | hydride: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 19:22.27 | Jmax | The following packages have unmet dependencies: courier-authmysql: Depends: libmysqlclient12 but it is not installable <-- i can't seem to solve this, anyone have a clue, 'cause i don't :< |
| 19:22.57 | dondelelcaro | !tell Jmax -about bat |
| 19:22.59 | hydride | thanks dpkg, I'm new to Debian, been using FreeBSD for a while now |
| 19:22.59 | dpkg | hydride: de rien |
| 19:23.01 | kyo | Is it ok I'll download the debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 19:23.13 | Omega16 | so...anyone know why i receive that error ? |
| 19:23.18 | kyo | to install? |
| 19:23.34 | dondelelcaro | kyo: if you want; you could also just use the netinst image |
| 19:23.58 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: ok, sec |
| 19:24.21 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: http://rafb.net/paste/results/jjKcgz84.html |
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| 19:24.52 | kyo | I'm in other side my computer is in my house and I don't have internet there |
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| 19:25.33 | dondelelcaro | kyo: ah... then yeah, that's the one you'll want. |
| 19:25.50 | dondelelcaro | kyo: you can use apt-zip or similar later to install the package syou want |
| 19:25.51 | Madeye | any GUI client to access webdav? |
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| 19:26.18 | dondelelcaro | !info libmysqlclient12 sarge |
| 19:26.23 | dpkg | libmysqlclient12: (mysql database client library), section libs, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 548 kB |
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| 19:26.41 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: add yourself a sarge entry to your sources.list and install it from there. |
| 19:26.49 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: i've tried doing an update and upgrade/dist-upgrade... from what i can tell it's messing up because i have mysql 5.0 and courier-mysqlauth requires 4.x |
| 19:26.58 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: i'm in unstable. |
| 19:27.03 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: will it still help? |
| 19:27.07 | kyo | I need to descompres the file or not? |
| 19:27.23 | Jmax | kyo: it's an image |
| 19:27.26 | Jmax | kyo: burn as an image |
| 19:27.31 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: oh... you probably want courier-authlib-mysql then |
| 19:27.38 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: OK, thanks |
| 19:27.54 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: W: Unable to locate package courier-authlib-mysql |
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| 19:28.08 | dondelelcaro | !+info courier-authlib-mysql |
| 19:28.10 | dpkg | Package 'courier-authlib-mysql' does not exist. |
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| 19:28.17 | nn | does anyone have an idea whether e2fsck's memory consumption depends on the used amount of a filesystem, or only on the size of the filesystem? |
| 19:28.21 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: that's experimental :S |
| 19:28.30 | Daveman | mmm... experimental |
| 19:28.35 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: ah, right... sorry, forgot that I have that listed too |
| 19:28.38 | kyo | ahhhhhh ok I descompressed the last I download |
| 19:28.43 | XSight | hi, i was wondering if anybody knew the graphical disk managment equaivilant from Windows Disk Management Console (diskmgmt.msc) ? anything i can install via apt-get would be great. |
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| 19:29.10 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: hm, can i just download that .deb and dpkg -i it? |
| 19:29.11 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: anyway, you may be able to get by with just installing that from experimental until it gets to unstable |
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| 19:29.35 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: you can just add an experimental line; it'll only install packages that you explicitely select. |
| 19:29.48 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: thank you |
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| 19:29.58 | XSight | i checked gparted and qtparted but it doenst seem i can isntall them via apt-get |
| 19:30.00 | finley | are higher package version numbers determined by alpha-numeric sort? |
| 19:30.10 | dondelelcaro | finley: it's more complex than that. |
| 19:30.23 | Daveman | oh man, if only :P |
| 19:30.26 | dondelelcaro | finley: see dpkg --compare-versions if you want to know which way is which. |
| 19:30.36 | finley | can you explain or point to a reference doc? |
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| 19:31.05 | dondelelcaro | finley: policy has the reference, but the canonical implementation is dpkg --compare-versions; see man dpkg; |
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| 19:31.16 | XSight | anyone? |
| 19:31.20 | finley | i need to replicate apt's higher_version() picking decisions in another app |
| 19:31.23 | dondelelcaro | !+info gparted |
| 19:31.25 | dpkg | gparted: (GNOME partition editor), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.9-1 (sid), Packaged size: 307 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB |
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| 19:31.36 | dondelelcaro | finley: use libapt then |
| 19:31.43 | finley | i'll try man dpkg; |
| 19:31.46 | dondelelcaro | (or call dpkg --compare-versions) |
| 19:31.51 | finley | dondelelcaro: i may do that |
| 19:31.54 | finley | heh |
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| 19:32.01 | finley | i'll look at those two, thx. |
| 19:32.14 | dondelelcaro | XSight: see above; you should be able to install it... |
| 19:32.19 | kyo | if I descompressed it with winrar. I can Compressed it to use it as a image? |
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| 19:32.32 | finley | been through apt.conf apt_preferences sources.list apt-cache, and sundry other man pages, but hadn't found a solid answer yet. |
| 19:32.37 | nn | is there a way to reduce e2fsck's memory consumption? I have problems checking a 200G partition with 64M of ram |
| 19:32.44 | XSight | ohh SID, i dont have sid, i just installed WOody |
| 19:33.05 | dondelelcaro | XSight: uh... you could try using at least the current stable... |
| 19:33.11 | dondelelcaro | !+info gparted sarge |
| 19:33.13 | dpkg | Package 'gparted' does not exist. |
| 19:33.13 | XSight | so i would have to update my apt source list? or does it get more complicated ? |
| 19:33.16 | dondelelcaro | !+info qtparted sarge |
| 19:33.18 | dpkg | Package 'qtparted' does not exist. |
| 19:33.22 | XSight | whops i meant sarge not woody |
| 19:33.22 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
| 19:33.31 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: thank you very much. |
| 19:33.38 | sondre | my son, 15, is becomming frustrated because he wants to play games on his computer. I've bought him a 1 ghz 256 mb computer and installed sarge. I want him to do homework on the pc, but he wants to play as well. Any suggestions? |
| 19:33.52 | dondelelcaro | sondre: apt-cache search games; use xine. |
| 19:33.55 | Daveman | heh |
| 19:34.02 | dondelelcaro | s/xine/wine/ |
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| 19:34.13 | Daveman | double-heh. |
| 19:34.17 | XSight | sondre -> windows machine allows you to play most of the retail games out there, like world of warcraft |
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| 19:34.44 | XSight | maybe one day they will create world of warcraft for linux |
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| 19:34.48 | \amethyst | particular games? |
| 19:34.53 | \amethyst | or just games? |
| 19:34.53 | sondre | cs |
| 19:35.02 | XSight | ya it depends on the game h wants to play. cs eh? |
| 19:35.17 | dondelelcaro | I mean, what more do you need besides nethack, bzflag, tetrinet, etc... |
| 19:35.18 | plb | hrm I got a question I'm using a redirect service which works if I point my browser to the address however I cannot ping the address |
| 19:35.23 | XSight | windows i would say cuz it's all ironed out and reayd to go if you have a decent video card. |
| 19:35.25 | \amethyst | Your son can damn well learn to like nethack :) |
| 19:35.40 | nile | gnomines is so much better than the minesweeper on windows.... =P |
| 19:35.42 | dondelelcaro | sondre: there are howtos on getting CS working with wine; he should search google and figure out how to get it to work |
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| 19:36.10 | sondre | nethack? |
| 19:36.34 | \amethyst | hack-and-slash roguelike. Like diablo, but turn-based and with ASCII graphics |
| 19:36.35 | XSight | i dont know about hte performance issues with wine however. |
| 19:36.43 | Daveman | haha |
| 19:36.45 | \amethyst | oh, and 10000x better |
| 19:36.56 | XSight | what with wine? |
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| 19:38.22 | sondre | any other games? Tried wine, fount it difficult.. |
| 19:39.17 | finley | dondelelcaro: dpkg --compare-versions sure looks like it would work for me, i could invoke it from my $program |
| 19:39.18 | dondelelcaro | there are a few thousand games... |
| 19:39.33 | \amethyst | as well as console emulators |
| 19:39.44 | shogunx | \amethyst do not forget falconseye. or zsnes:) |
| 19:40.03 | \amethyst | just nethack with fancy graphics, pah |
| 19:40.11 | finley | but, $buddy here claims that even then, there are corner cases that it doesn't catch, such as 0.9alpha1 vs. 0.9beta1 |
| 19:40.13 | dondelelcaro | there are even whole game creation systems, like crystalspace... |
| 19:40.25 | ndice | hello, can i install debian "testing" from scratch while offline (without having to install the "stable" first and then dist upgrage) ? I have the full CD's of debian "testing" (not just the net boot) , but the debian-installer keeps asking for a mirror to get the packages from, how can this be solved ? |
| 19:40.28 | inconspicuous | sondre: sounds like a semi-modern system. i bet the hard-drive is big enough to install more than one OS. there are a lot more games for mac and windows than linux(unfortunately) |
| 19:40.37 | shogunx | \amethyst kids though... they like the graphics. seen planeshift? |
| 19:40.45 | dondelelcaro | finley: we're talking about Debian versions here; so Developers know not to do things like that... |
| 19:40.56 | \amethyst | I was 15 when I started playing Nethack |
| 19:41.01 | XSight | theres tons of retail games you can play easily with windows because they were orignialy programmed for windows. i see that as the easy and troublefree way. |
| 19:41.06 | finley | my response exactly; that is considered a standard conclusion then? |
| 19:41.09 | \amethyst | 13 or 14 for Rogue |
| 19:41.12 | sondre | do i install nethack with apt-get? |
| 19:41.20 | shogunx | \amethyst :) i did not pick it up until about 24, or 25. |
| 19:41.37 | \amethyst | shogunx: you're probably older than me |
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| 19:41.38 | stew | dpkg --compare-versions 0.9alpha1 \< 0.9beta1 -> $? == 0 |
| 19:41.43 | dondelelcaro | finley: yeah, there are all sorts of cockamamie versioning schemes that upstreams come up with; in general it works just fine with sane ones... |
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| 19:41.49 | shogunx | \amethyst 31 this year. |
| 19:41.56 | \amethyst | shogunx: yup |
| 19:42.12 | \amethyst | 25 |
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| 19:42.39 | finley | dondelelcaro: heh. thanks. i'll have another chat to run it through the $buddy devils-advocate filter, but I think that's a reasonable position, and therefore my solution. Thanks! |
| 19:42.48 | dondelelcaro | stew: dpkg --compare-versions 0.9 '<' 0.9beta1; I think is the case that was being pointed out... |
| 19:42.56 | stew | ahh |
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| 19:43.07 | dondelelcaro | even if the initial example was wrong ;-) |
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| 19:43.33 | stew | dondelelcaro: yeah, but i agree with your assertion about DDs knowing what they are doing... |
| 19:43.35 | dondelelcaro | dpkg --compare-versions 0.9-1 '<' 0.9~beta1-1; is the way you do that properly... |
| 19:43.35 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, dondelelcaro |
| 19:43.45 | dondelelcaro | stew: right |
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| 19:44.34 | finley | dondelelcaro: cool example as reference. |
| 19:45.05 | Diversant | here have american people? |
| 19:45.09 | dondelelcaro | finley: but basically it does devolve into sorting, it just separates the things to be sorted into tokens... |
| 19:45.10 | finley | dpkg: Ie: dpkg --compare-versions 0.9-1 '<' 0.9~beta1-1; _vs_ dpkg --compare-versions 0.9-1 '<' 0.9beta1-1 |
| 19:45.26 | \amethyst | Diversant: One would imagine so |
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| 19:46.17 | XSight | anybody know what window manager this guy is using? http://barosl.com/gallery/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=misc&id=wow14 |
| 19:46.17 | inconspicuous | how many original games are there for linux anyway? most ones i've seen are just clones of games from other systems. |
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| 19:47.08 | Ronin | XSight: a higly themed gnome |
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| 19:47.37 | XSight | ya i saw the gnome aut didn't figure out how he got it nicely themed out |
| 19:47.47 | \amethyst | inconspicuous: Depends on what you count as "original", and "for Linux"... do Unix games that predate Linux, but have been ported, count? |
| 19:47.57 | TheDracle | Okay.. I'm trying to install a GPIB kernel module on my system. For this purpose, aptitude finds 'gpib-modules-source', and I installed it. |
| 19:48.03 | XSight | still looks pretty clean cloing its apple look |
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| 19:48.32 | TheDracle | Problem is, it creates a /usr/share/doc/gpib-modules-source/ directory, and the README talks about a INSTALL file--- which I can't locate. |
| 19:48.47 | plugwash | any idea why i can't switch out of x using ctrl+alt+function key? |
| 19:48.53 | TheDracle | And, I've searched, and searched, and I can't find any information on how to get at the source for this module, where it is, how to compile it. |
| 19:49.20 | inconspicuous | amethyst: well by 'original' i meant designed primarily for a *nix system. |
| 19:49.28 | \amethyst | TheDracle: it probably put a .tar.gz in /usr/src/ |
| 19:49.34 | \amethyst | TheDracle: you'll need to unpack that |
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| 19:49.41 | dondelelcaro | TheDracle: dpkg -L gpib-modules-source; should clue you in... m-a -ai gpib shoudl also do the right thing... |
| 19:49.41 | TheDracle | \amethyst, Okay :) Thanks. |
| 19:49.53 | TheDracle | dondelelcaro, Awesome, thanks :) |
| 19:50.26 | \amethyst | inconspicuous: How different from R-Type does a 2-D space shooter have to be to count as original? :) |
| 19:50.34 | TheDracle | \amethyst, Should I extract this into my kernel sources directory? |
| 19:50.50 | UncleSkunk | ok to make it so I dont have to type "ls --color=tty" each time I would edit .bashrc right? but what if I can't find file |
| 19:50.51 | minerale | greetings, where could I add an env path (such as JAVA_HOME) for all users? |
| 19:50.58 | \amethyst | TheDracle: untar it in /usr/src |
| 19:51.00 | plugwash | i'm running etch, with xorg, gdm and icewm |
| 19:51.15 | \amethyst | TheDracle: it will create modules/gpib/ (or something like that) |
| 19:51.25 | plugwash | and i've recently noticed that there doesn't seem to be any easy way to switch out of x to my console sessions |
| 19:51.48 | \amethyst | TheDracle: you might want to look at the module-assistant package |
| 19:52.09 | TheDracle | \amethyst, Okay, thanks :) |
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| 19:52.33 | heny | hello, i installed and configured gpm but i cant use the mouse |
| 19:52.36 | heny | why? |
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| 19:53.07 | TheDracle | \amethyst, Btw, is there somewhere that tells me what the flags next to a package in apt-cache search or aptitude search mean? |
| 19:53.08 | streuner_ | heny: you plugged the mouse into the box? |
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| 19:53.16 | Ronin | because the mouse innt configured correctly? |
| 19:53.18 | TheDracle | \amethyst, I've browsed the man pages, but, nothing caught my eye. |
| 19:53.19 | deb-noob | do nybody know how to use a bin extension (linux instaler I think) |
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| 19:53.46 | heny | Ronin: then how to do it? |
| 19:53.54 | heny | streuner_: yes |
| 19:53.56 | heny | it's ps2 |
| 19:53.57 | inconspicuous | amethyst: i'm not trying to judge originality by content, but by platform. i meant what does linux have to offer for games that another OS can't? like i said, most games i've seen are straight ports of other games. |
| 19:54.28 | TheDracle | \amethyst, Christ, this is awesome :) It's builllddding.. Thanks so much! |
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| 19:55.17 | TheDracle | inconspicuous, What does Windows/Mac offer games? I think that's a higher level question than the underlying operating system. |
| 19:55.52 | Beatrix | :D |
| 19:55.55 | TheDracle | inconspicuous, Technically speaking, and Xbox has a lot more to offer games--- being it's designed from the ground up with optimization for specific video games, having only one real running process, and completely knowledge of all of the hardware to begin with. |
| 19:56.28 | heny | can some one help me? |
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| 19:56.43 | inconspicuous | TheDracle: yeah well i'll just pass on anything offered from the hand of bill gates, thank you very much ;D |
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| 19:56.55 | Coweater | it has nothing to do with the platform, the only case for that is a lack of directx on linux, the lack of games is simply a profit question for game companies |
| 19:57.15 | TheDracle | inconspicuous, Eh, they don't have a monopoly on the video game market. The Xbox is actually a remarkable piece of hardware, with linux distributions for it. |
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| 19:57.40 | AsianGirl | soeone help me, how ever i try to log as user, i always got root@blabla... |
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| 19:57.48 | XSight | alriht i poped a 250G ide hard drive into this new debian system i just made, two questions -> 1) What's a recommended filesystem to use? (ext3?) 2) how do i format it and start using it? (it will be used for samba sharing) |
| 19:57.48 | AsianGirl | and server thing im always log as root :s |
| 19:57.50 | TheDracle | inconspicuous, The Xbox team has actually been a lot more innovative, and creative, and sucessful than the Windows design team. They recently moved them from Xbox360 development to fix the fuckups of the Windows Vista team. |
| 19:57.55 | Marupa | Is there a way to install debian over the top of mandriva, via ssh? |
| 19:57.56 | heny | AsianGirl: thats the folder youre in |
| 19:58.04 | Marupa | I'd like to keep my box where it is, and headless. |
| 19:58.05 | heny | or well nop |
| 19:58.10 | AsianGirl | hmm ok |
| 19:58.12 | streuner_ | heny: so server or desktop-system? |
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| 19:58.18 | heny | server |
| 19:58.19 | heny | streuner_: |
| 19:58.24 | minerale | TheDracle: I believe the 360 -> vista move was debunked as false |
| 19:58.28 | TheDracle | inconspicuous, I'm willing to definitely give credit where credit is due--- if I dislike the practices of Windows, I'll say so. I think it's irrational to simply say, "It's Micrsoft thus crap." |
| 19:58.35 | streuner_ | heny: so what's that hard to run 'dpkg-reconfigure gpm'? |
| 19:58.38 | TheDracle | minerale, Oh really? I wasn't aware. |
| 19:58.48 | streuner_ | heny: there is a gpmconfig apps for gpm too |
| 19:59.09 | heny | streuner_: i ran dpgk-reconfigure gpm |
| 19:59.15 | heny | but the mouse doesnt reac |
| 19:59.16 | heny | t |
| 19:59.18 | deb-noob | do nybody know how to use a bin extension (linux instaler I think) |
| 19:59.23 | heny | i used autps2 |
| 19:59.26 | minerale | TheDracle: that tidbit was included with a story saying that 60% of the code would be rewritten, and that was completely false as well |
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| 19:59.44 | streuner_ | heny: the serve isn't remotly? |
| 19:59.48 | Coweater | deb-noob: it's probably an executable, chmod it and run it |
| 19:59.54 | streuner_ | heny: the server isn't remotely? |
| 19:59.56 | heny | it's a local pc here |
| 20:00.01 | streuner_ | ok |
| 20:00.04 | inconspicuous | TheDracle: yeah the windoze guys aren't very creative... now where do you think the talent for xbox games is coming from? microsoft is busy buying out everyone they can and destroying all the independent compeition they can. |
| 20:00.04 | heny | which is a server |
| 20:00.06 | heny | ;) |
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| 20:00.27 | streuner_ | heny: run 'mdetect' to find out the protocol |
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| 20:00.37 | Marupa | any ideas, guys? |
| 20:00.42 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: problem again :( |
| 20:01.01 | AsianGirl | heny = but im log as the user and im in the user folder |
| 20:01.04 | TheDracle | inconspicuous, Eh, I beg to differ. I think Windows has a lot of advantages, user-interface wise, over linux at the moment. Yes, a lot of these ideas were stolen from prior operating systems--- but eh, it doesn't seem like Linux has quite been able to 'steal' those same ideas as of yet. |
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| 20:01.20 | LapisUser | hello |
| 20:01.23 | Jmax | hi |
| 20:01.28 | LapisUser | my name is baris |
| 20:01.33 | LapisUser | from turkey |
| 20:01.34 | heny | aint got mdetect |
| 20:01.35 | Heston | hello, if i install with a usb mouse and later switched to a serial mouse, would i only have to change the protocol and device in my XF86Config-4 file? |
| 20:01.37 | fbhjr | h/win 7 |
| 20:01.38 | heny | should i apt-get it? |
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| 20:01.45 | TheDracle | inconspicuous, I think there is an active push at Microsoft to destroy competition, regardless of if their products are superior or not--- and that's very very bad. |
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| 20:01.49 | deb-noob | Coweater: How do I run a .bin??? |
| 20:01.59 | streuner_ | otherwise i wouldn't it mention |
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| 20:02.02 | Jmax | deb-noob: ./path/to/whatever.bin |
| 20:02.06 | dondelelcaro | TheDracle, inconspicuous: windows is OT here. ##linux or similar is a better place to discuss that. |
| 20:02.07 | Coweater | deb-noob: i told you, make it executable with chmod and run it like any other executable |
| 20:02.16 | stew | deb-noob: what does "file /path/to/bin" say it is? |
| 20:02.37 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: The following packages have unmet dependencies: courier-authlib-mysql: Depends: libmysqlclient15 (>= 5.0.15-1) but it is not installable |
| 20:02.43 | deb-noob | stew:i dont understand...sorry |
| 20:02.47 | esk | deb-noob: chmod +x file.bin |
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| 20:03.06 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: you're running mysql5, right? |
| 20:03.06 | minerale | greetings, where could I add an env path (such as JAVA_HOME) for all users? |
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| 20:03.14 | stew | deb-noob: run "file /path/to/foo.bin", it should tell you what kind of file it is |
| 20:03.16 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: that has libmysqlclient15... |
| 20:03.20 | Marupa | could anyone answer my question as to whether I can install debian over the top of mandriva, via ssh? |
| 20:03.20 | inconspicuous | TheDracle: hey i'm not saying windows is all that bad. you're completely right that there are advantages to each OS. i would never say otherwise. what i'm saying is that large corporations don't play by the same rules as everyone else. |
| 20:03.22 | XSight | ahahaha http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314458/EN-US/ |
| 20:03.25 | XSight | thats funny |
| 20:03.28 | chrisq | dondelelcaro: .bashrc |
| 20:03.30 | AsianGirl | someoen can tell me why when itry to log as an no-root user, i always got a root@blabla: and not the no-rootsuername@blabla ? |
| 20:03.31 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: i have unstable and expreimental sources, and it seems as though libmysqlclient15 doesn't exist -- however, libmysqlclient15-dev and libmysqlclient15off do |
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| 20:03.34 | heny | streuner_: devpsaux |
| 20:03.37 | heny | intellimaus |
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| 20:03.41 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: :S |
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| 20:03.50 | Heston | which protol does a serial mouse use? |
| 20:03.58 | Heston | protocol even |
| 20:04.14 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: right, ok... sounds like the experimental courier package needs a rebuild. |
| 20:04.15 | Jmax | AsianGirl: check your .bashrc |
| 20:04.28 | dondelelcaro | chrisq: ? |
| 20:04.30 | esk | Heston: depends on the mouse ;) |
| 20:04.33 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: oh. hm. what would you recommend i do? |
| 20:04.39 | AsianGirl | Jmax = ehh wat should i chekc in it? |
| 20:04.47 | deb-noob | and how do I run an executable file? |
| 20:04.52 | Heston | esk, a basic logitech 2 button serial mouse |
| 20:04.58 | chrisq | dondelelcaro: wrong completion, sorry :) |
| 20:05.02 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: you can probably just apt-get build-dep courier-authlib-mysql; apt-get -b source courier-authlib-mysql; and get a working package |
| 20:05.08 | dondelelcaro | deb-noob: ./foo |
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| 20:05.21 | esk | Heston: I think there is a 'logitech' driver |
| 20:05.26 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: assuming you've got build-essential and possibly fakeroot |
| 20:05.29 | Jmax | AsianGirl: there should be a line that says PS1="something" , that is your prompt conf (man bash) |
| 20:05.38 | heny | streuner |
| 20:05.42 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: OK, thanks |
| 20:05.47 | drf5n | deb-noob You have to mark it as executable, then call it: chmod +x file.bin ; ./file.bin |
| 20:06.02 | XSight | how can i find the right hard drive (clean not formated) from /dev/ ? |
| 20:06.21 | Heston | esk...alright then, would the device path be any different than /dev/mouse ? |
| 20:06.22 | dondelelcaro | Jmax: you also may want to file a bug against courier either asking for it to be built against libmysql15, or the experimental package to be rebuilt if there isn't such a bug already. |
| 20:06.22 | streuner_ | XSight: run 'fdisk -l' |
| 20:06.23 | deb-noob | thanks everyone...its working |
| 20:06.38 | deb-noob | What is best, enlightement or Fluxbox and whyh??? |
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| 20:06.48 | esk | Heston: probably, /dev/mouse is usually a symlink |
| 20:07.00 | heny | streuner_: devpsaux |
| 20:07.02 | heny | streuner_: devpsaux |
| 20:07.03 | XSight | streuner what does fdisk -l do? |
| 20:07.04 | heny | sry |
| 20:07.06 | heny | intellimaus |
| 20:07.12 | esk | Heston: it is probably /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1 |
| 20:07.16 | deb-noob | What is best, enlightement or Fluxbox and whyh??? |
| 20:07.16 | Heston | esk, but is that symlink automatically changed when a new mouse is detected? |
| 20:07.17 | emdash | what is the best way to deactivate an x-screen saver? i'm using matchbox, so i put "xset s off" in /etc/matchbox/session |
| 20:07.18 | streuner_ | XSight: see for yourself |
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| 20:07.32 | Marupa | Am I on ignore, or does no one know the answer? |
| 20:07.36 | esk | Heston: I don't think serial mice are detected |
| 20:07.41 | XSight | i typed it it returns me back to the shell |
| 20:07.45 | Heston | esk, ok thanks |
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| 20:08.21 | emdash | but i'm wondering if changing XF86Config-4 is a better idea |
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| 20:10.11 | deb-noob | what's the best, enlightement or fluxbox |
| 20:10.15 | Marupa | Can someone at least acknowlege my presence? |
| 20:10.22 | drf5n | Marupa: if you can mess with the partitions, dd it into a fresh partition, change lilo or grub and reboot |
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| 20:10.35 | fbhjr | Marupa: you know, irc is not your own personal help channel.... |
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| 20:10.38 | streuner_ | !start a wm war |
| 20:10.38 | dpkg | fvwm95 sucks! |
| 20:10.43 | Marupa | don't have the space to do it. |
| 20:10.46 | fbhjr | doing a remote install will be difficult I think |
| 20:11.07 | Marupa | I know that, fbhjr, but sometimes I wonder if I'm partly invisible. |
| 20:11.22 | drf5n | You're purple on my screen. |
| 20:11.38 | Marupa | I don't mind difficult, nor time consuming. I simply want a better distro on my box. |
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| 20:11.59 | emdash | deb-noob: xfce |
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| 20:12.21 | emdash | deb-noob: if you're running sarge install the version from backports though |
| 20:12.31 | fbhjr | I did a remote chrooted install...I think I followed a doc by Joey Hess...would have to google |
| 20:12.35 | heny | i wanna run a gameserver, but have still to configure it |
| 20:12.39 | emdash | deb-noob: and switch from gnome-terminal to rxvt-unicode |
| 20:12.44 | heny | may i use X or does it use too many ressources? |
| 20:12.57 | nn_school | trying to learn kb skills on an blank key keyboard. |
| 20:13.32 | nn_school | verry tuff |
| 20:13.35 | emdash | deb-noob: i don't like fluxbox because it doesn't have any built-in theming for gtk |
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| 20:13.55 | emdash | deb-noob: although it does have a really cool feature where you can keep windows from particular applications on certain workspaces |
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| 20:14.03 | a-atwood | heh. they used to put masking tape over they keys of the typewriters back when I was in high school |
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| 20:14.12 | deb-noob | emdash: im having trouble finding amsn and bittorent that i just installed |
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| 20:14.22 | nn_school | ?? what is flux box? |
| 20:14.34 | emdash | deb-noob: type btdownload and hit tab |
| 20:14.35 | Coweater | fluxbox is a window manager |
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| 20:14.50 | UncleSkunk | better then blackbox? |
| 20:14.54 | a-atwood | my new best friend in wm's is xfce |
| 20:15.05 | emdash | i like it alot |
| 20:15.09 | Coweater | !fluxbox |
| 20:15.09 | dpkg | i heard fluxbox is a forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or blackbox the featureless wonder with some added features You can also ask #fluxbox for non-debian specific information. |
| 20:15.10 | nn_school | ok |
| 20:15.16 | js_ | a-atwood: and its not even a wm |
| 20:15.26 | emdash | it plays along nicely with gnome and gtk apps but doesn't start a lot of extra crap |
| 20:15.31 | UncleSkunk | I like blackbox |
| 20:15.46 | UncleSkunk | I'll give fluxbox a go |
| 20:15.53 | deb-noob | emdash: not working : btdownload |
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| 20:16.06 | emdash | deb-noob: do you have synaptic installed? |
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| 20:16.12 | emdash | you can look for it in there |
| 20:16.12 | deb-noob | in wich folder my programs are they install |
| 20:16.32 | jonas22 | if i have a ttf font and i want to install it using defoma, it's just defoma-font register ttf <filename>? |
| 20:16.37 | emdash | deb-noob: all over the place |
| 20:16.46 | Marupa | well, if anyone wants to help me try to remote-install, PM me. |
| 20:16.52 | emdash | deb-noob: did you install them with apt? |
| 20:16.56 | Marupa | too much happening in-channel for me to hear it. |
| 20:16.58 | emdash | deb-noob: you should probably read the apt howto |
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| 20:17.32 | drf5n | Maroupa: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html |
| 20:17.46 | sunrise | hi all; I'm looking for a tool which monitoring tool for daemons which should be able to start an configured application if one daemon breaks... |
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| 20:18.07 | deb-noob | emdash: with pkmg je crois |
| 20:18.24 | deb-noob | emdash:with pkng i think |
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| 20:18.40 | deb-noob | and amsn with the installer |
| 20:19.12 | emdash | deb-noob: umm i'm not familiar with either of those |
| 20:19.12 | Marupa | I'll back up my entire root to my 80GB backup, just in case. :3 |
| 20:19.30 | emdash | deb-noob: the conventional way to install things on debian i with apt |
| 20:19.40 | emdash | deb-noob: and programs mostly show up in /bin or /usr/bin |
| 20:19.57 | emdash | deb-noob: if you did some non-debian installer, it might be in /usr/local/bin |
| 20:19.58 | deb-noob | emdash : yes but how im I using it when im donwloading something? |
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| 20:20.16 | Marupa | ...speaking of which...is there a way to copy everything from one drive to another, without following symlinks, yet putting it in a subdir on the other dirve? |
| 20:20.35 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: still here? |
| 20:20.37 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory |
| 20:20.37 | emdash | deb-noob: apt is supposed to download it for you, did you check if what you wanted was already in apt? |
| 20:20.39 | Jmax | dondelelcaro: :< |
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| 20:20.47 | jonas22 | any tips for using defoma? |
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| 20:21.01 | Sonny | is it possible to have many Volume Groups in the same system? (talking about LVM) |
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| 20:21.16 | darkstego | is there a way to have a server cache deb packages for apt? |
| 20:21.27 | deb-noob | emdash:im not able to find acrobat or amsn on it |
| 20:22.18 | angryadmin | anybody know an easy way when building a package to copy conf files into the package? make install doesn't do it by default |
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| 20:22.53 | Beatrix | what is 'share object library'? how it works? :S |
| 20:22.56 | deb-noob | emdash ok I got amsn |
| 20:23.07 | ceplma | I guess, I am not the first one to ask for it, but I cannot find a good workaround. suddenly after update my debian/sid decided that my locale cs_CZ.UTF-8 are not good, and they I should go back to POSIX. Can anybody help how to fix it? |
| 20:23.11 | deb-noob | emdash : but do I have to do if im downloading ot from the net |
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| 20:24.39 | emdash | deb-noob: if you don't use apt, you have to follow whatever instructions they give you |
| 20:24.52 | emdash | deb-noob: if you just download some installer you have to run that installer |
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| 20:25.24 | emdash | deb-noob: if you download program source code you have to compile it |
| 20:25.27 | ceplma | is there any documentation for LANGUAGE environmental variable? (it is hard to find it on google, which is case-insensitive :-() |
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| 20:26.06 | deb-noob | emdash: it was a .deb |
| 20:26.21 | emdash | deb-noob: did you dpkg -i whatver.deb |
| 20:26.27 | row | Hi, I am a bit worried, I have a lvm setup using hda+hdb everything seems fine apart from hdb has my swap space on it and its not mounted and cfdisk/fdisk show hdb does not have a valid partition table, what does this suggest? |
| 20:26.33 | row | no lvm errors yet.... |
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| 20:26.42 | n3x^ | hey might soung a bit silly, but can some1 explain comething to me? |
| 20:27.19 | n3x^ | the installer automatically installs kernel 2.4, any way of making it install kernel 2.6 without installing 2.4 first? |
| 20:27.25 | row | and how the hell do I get my swap partition back without frying lvm partition |
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| 20:27.43 | row | n3x^ type linux26 at boot prompt |
| 20:27.49 | row | instead of hitting enter |
| 20:27.54 | n3x^ | oh |
| 20:27.56 | row | when you start the installer |
| 20:27.58 | n3x^ | i typed kernel26 |
| 20:28.01 | row | hehe |
| 20:28.02 | n3x^ | and it said doesnt exist |
| 20:28.03 | n3x^ | :[ |
| 20:28.11 | row | linux26 not kernel26 |
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| 20:28.18 | n3x^ | right |
| 20:28.18 | deb-noob | emdash : YES, but now I dunno how to open it!! |
| 20:28.18 | n3x^ | thanks :] |
| 20:28.24 | n3x^ | get back to installing then.. |
| 20:28.25 | n3x^ | giggle |
| 20:28.32 | vhuren | how do you prevent cron from mailing whoever has the job setup? |
| 20:28.36 | vhuren | cause i have one * * * * * * and i am flooded with mail |
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| 20:29.39 | emdash | deb-noob: well have you just tried typing amsn in a terminal? |
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| 20:30.11 | deb-noob | emdash: yes I did. |
| 20:30.11 | emdash | deb-noob: look in /usr/share/doc/amsn for documentation |
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| 20:30.36 | emdash | if you are still having trouble finding it i'll tell you how to check and see if the package is installed |
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| 20:30.51 | emdash | deb-noob: i'm assuming it hasn't shown up in the debian menu system |
| 20:30.56 | row | anyone able to suggest a fix to my lvm/partition problem? |
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| 20:32.01 | deb-noob | emdash : no it hasn't, know i found i in usr/bin/amsn, but how do i start it and how do i add it on the debian menu? |
| 20:32.06 | TheDracle | Okay, I'm really confused, I'm using module-assistant. It seems to build everything, but then, it cleans it all and removes all traces immediately afterwards, and claims the build fails, and refers me to a build log. |
| 20:32.14 | TheDracle | But, the build log has no errors, as far as I can tell. |
| 20:32.21 | TheDracle | And links, and produces .ko files. |
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| 20:32.37 | emdash | TheDracle: what are you trying to build? |
| 20:32.52 | emdash | deb-noob: open a terminal and type amsn |
| 20:32.54 | TheDracle | emag, gpib modules. |
| 20:33.20 | emdash | deb-noob: it should have already been added to the debian menu, if not run update-menus |
| 20:33.24 | TheDracle | emag, One second. gpib-modules-source |
| 20:33.41 | deb-noob | emdash: its not working |
| 20:33.46 | emdash | well what happens? |
| 20:33.56 | emdash | "it's not working" is not very helpful |
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| 20:34.29 | emdash | deb-noob: btw, amsn is in apt...you could have just done apt-get install amsn |
| 20:34.40 | TheDracle | emag, I can post my build log on pastebin. |
| 20:34.43 | deb-noob | emdash:sorry, I mean when im typing amsn it does not show up |
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| 20:34.56 | deb-noob | emdash: |
| 20:34.57 | rue_mohr | apt find configurator |
| 20:35.08 | rue_mohr | there's no apt.. |
| 20:35.20 | deb-noob | emdash: i just did it with aptitude...and its not working ... |
| 20:35.36 | rue_mohr | hmm how else can I find a file... |
| 20:35.49 | rue_mohr | did they fix the search on the webpage? |
| 20:35.53 | rue_mohr | ever? |
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| 20:36.09 | emdash | deb-noob: i don't use aptitude myself so i can't help you with it...i think it's not that great, i use either synaptic or just run apt commands from the command line |
| 20:36.19 | emdash | deb-noob: i'm concerned maybe it didn't install |
| 20:36.32 | rue_mohr | "The Debian search engine has been disabled for now. We're working on it." <- for the last 5 years |
| 20:36.32 | emdash | deb-noob: so try dpkg -l | grep ii | grep msn |
| 20:36.44 | emdash | deb-noob: eerr so try dpkg -l | grep ii | grep amsn |
| 20:37.16 | rue_mohr | apt will come up with a result eventually wont it? |
| 20:37.22 | rue_mohr | apt find configurator |
| 20:37.30 | tsk_ | !laptop |
| 20:37.30 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 20:37.45 | UncleSkunk | there a command to find out what verion of debian Im using? |
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| 20:38.10 | rue_mohr | ok let me try this from another end |
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| 20:38.18 | rue_mohr | what package do I get to configure X? |
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| 20:38.30 | rue_mohr | say, that commes with XF86Setup |
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| 20:38.37 | Nin | hi there guys! |
| 20:39.03 | Neur0n_ | hi there! |
| 20:39.10 | chealer | rue_mohr: XF86Setup? |
| 20:39.14 | rue_mohr | it looks like xf86setup nolonger exists? |
| 20:39.21 | Neur0n_ | I've just recompiled the kernel 2.6.16 and it doesn't have the IPtables |
| 20:39.24 | rue_mohr | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=xf86setup&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 20:39.25 | chealer | rue_mohr: what's xf86setup? |
| 20:39.28 | Neur0n_ | does anybody know about it? |
| 20:39.32 | azeem | chealer: something from the 90s |
| 20:39.34 | azeem | or 80s? |
| 20:39.39 | rue_mohr | its a program for configuring X |
| 20:39.47 | rue_mohr | its the only one I know should exist |
| 20:39.49 | chealer | azeem: hehe, OK |
| 20:39.51 | azeem | they dropped it for X-4.0 at least |
| 20:40.01 | rue_mohr | I'm post installing X and I need to configure it |
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| 20:40.15 | azeem | the latest I mean |
| 20:40.23 | rue_mohr | aka, write an XF86Config-4 |
| 20:40.30 | emdash | rue_mohr: apt-cache search... |
| 20:40.30 | rue_mohr | which I DO NOT want to do by hand |
| 20:40.37 | rue_mohr | tried, dosn't turn up anything |
| 20:40.47 | rue_mohr | accpet videogen, which is useless |
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| 20:42.14 | rue_mohr | xf86Config SHOULD be in xbase-clients, but isn't |
| 20:42.31 | cureless | rue_mohr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:42.31 | anymo | I have a question(s) about installing debian... |
| 20:42.41 | emdash | cureless: efb |
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| 20:42.58 | rue_mohr | ooo I installed the xorg one |
| 20:42.58 | jatos | hi |
| 20:43.07 | cureless | rue_mohr: just change to xorg |
| 20:43.07 | emdash | rue_mohr: =) |
| 20:43.16 | anymo | first of all, if I have one more linux os on my pc (as I do-suse linux)... is it ok to make another root partition and get debian on it? |
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| 20:43.21 | emdash | deb-noob: did you figure anything out? |
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| 20:43.29 | anymo | will it mess something up..? |
| 20:43.31 | Neur0n_ | rue_mohr the advice of cureless is good, go for xorg... |
| 20:43.43 | cureless | rue_mohr: and remember the file is called xorg... not XF... |
| 20:43.46 | d03boy | anyone nkow of a game (called superball I think)? you get to be aball and you roll around... is it in the repos? |
| 20:43.57 | anymo | I did that and when I get to that choice of desktop or other types of install.. |
| 20:44.07 | deb-noob | emdash:not really im still trying.... but ether bittorent and amsn are not working....amsn is installed on /opt/amsn??? |
| 20:44.15 | rue_mohr | hu? |
| 20:44.24 | anymo | I get some wierd I/O errors about locked sectors on hdb ... |
| 20:44.46 | cureless | anymo: there should be no problem with multiple OSs, linux or otherwise |
| 20:44.50 | anymo | and I don't have other (hdb) disk at all |
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| 20:45.03 | cureless | anymo: just don't mix them unless you know how to mix them (reusing partitions) |
| 20:45.03 | chealer | d03boy: $ apt-cache search neverball |
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| 20:45.16 | anymo | I made another clean partition |
| 20:45.18 | anymo | for debian |
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| 20:45.28 | UncleSkunk | I was looking at some screenshots of somepeoples desktops. I would like those netmonitors and such that some have running. what would I get for that? |
| 20:45.34 | anymo | and installed it there and then rebooted to continue installation |
| 20:45.36 | cureless | anymo: for all of debian? |
| 20:45.43 | anymo | yes |
| 20:45.52 | cureless | UncleSkunk: you can start with gkrellm |
| 20:45.53 | anymo | debian only... root partition for it.. |
| 20:45.54 | rue_mohr | apt-cache wont search for files in packages that aren't installed |
| 20:45.58 | rue_mohr | or that are installed |
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| 20:46.03 | anymo | but I have suse on it's root part too |
| 20:46.08 | azeem | rue_mohr: it does not search for files at all |
| 20:46.10 | cureless | apt-cache is not for searching files |
| 20:46.11 | rue_mohr | people need to know what package contains a file |
| 20:46.11 | anymo | is that ok? |
| 20:46.12 | TheDracle | Now it won't even build.... |
| 20:46.12 | UncleSkunk | cureless: cool thanks |
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| 20:46.19 | azeem | it searches package names and descriptions |
| 20:46.25 | azeem | rue_mohr: use apt-file |
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| 20:46.34 | d03boy | chealer, I love you |
| 20:46.34 | rue_mohr | like if I know I need startx, and I dont know what package its in |
| 20:46.49 | cureless | rue_mohr: dpkg can search for files on your system, otherwise use apt-file or packages.debian.org |
| 20:46.58 | anymo | the problem starts when I get to the part when I choose the type of installation |
| 20:47.03 | anymo | I choose desktop.. |
| 20:47.05 | chealer | d03boy: I love neverball :) |
| 20:47.06 | rue_mohr | if I had the file, I wouldn't be asking |
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| 20:47.26 | anymo | and I wait, and what I see are some I/O errors about some locked sectors on hdb |
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| 20:47.27 | rue_mohr | I need to know where to get XF86Setup, which dosn't exist anymore |
| 20:47.29 | cureless | rue_mohr: go to packages.debian.org (aka p.d.o) |
| 20:47.34 | rue_mohr | it cacnt find it |
| 20:47.36 | azeem | rue_mohr: apt-file |
| 20:47.42 | cureless | rue_mohr: YOU DON'T NEED IT!!! |
| 20:47.43 | anymo | and as I told before I don't even have hdb (other hard drive) |
| 20:47.52 | cureless | rue_mohr: the file is called something else (xorg.conf) |
| 20:48.02 | azeem | !+info XF86Setup hamm |
| 20:48.03 | rue_mohr | apt did not configure it right the first time, why should it successive times? |
| 20:48.06 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:48.10 | azeem | !+find XF86Setup hamm |
| 20:48.11 | dpkg | Package 'xf86setup' does not exist. |
| 20:48.12 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:48.15 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'XF86Setup' (1): (/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86Setup) in x11/xserver-vga16. |
| 20:48.23 | azeem | !+find XF86Setup slink |
| 20:48.25 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:48.26 | anymo | cureless: any ideas about this problem? |
| 20:48.28 | rue_mohr | insteresting |
| 20:48.33 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'XF86Setup' (1): (/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86Setup, /usr/doc/xf86setup/license.XF86Setup) in x11/xf86setup. |
| 20:48.37 | rue_mohr | seeing as the web site couldn't find it at all |
| 20:48.40 | azeem | !+find XF86Setup potato |
| 20:48.41 | chealer | wow, xserver-vga16 :) |
| 20:48.42 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 20:48.50 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'XF86Setup' (1): (/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86Setup) in x11/xf86setup. |
| 20:48.56 | emdash | deb-noob: you know that gaim supports msn, right? |
| 20:48.57 | azeem | !+find XF86Setup woody |
| 20:48.58 | rue_mohr | media:/etc# apt-get install xf86setup |
| 20:48.58 | rue_mohr | Reading package lists... Done |
| 20:48.58 | rue_mohr | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 20:48.58 | rue_mohr | E: Couldn't find package xf86setup |
| 20:48.58 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 20:49.16 | rue_mohr | oops |
| 20:49.20 | rue_mohr | anyhow |
| 20:49.22 | rue_mohr | grrrr |
| 20:49.25 | anymo | cureless: is the partition order important or somethin else about partition table? |
| 20:49.34 | azeem | rue_mohr: you need to install Debian 2.2 if you want XF86Setup |
| 20:49.49 | emdash | deb-noob: bittorent shows up as btdownload-curses btdownload-gui, etc |
| 20:49.55 | cureless | rue_mohr: pay attention, if you're using xorg, you won't have a xf86config |
| 20:50.09 | emdash | deb-noob: you download the .torrent file first and then run btdownload-gui blah.torrent |
| 20:50.10 | chealer | anymo: does /dev/hdb exist? |
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| 20:50.15 | rue_mohr | yea, I didn't want xorg, so I'm backstepping |
| 20:50.23 | anymo | chealer: no.. that is the problem |
| 20:50.29 | cureless | anymo: no, just how you configured it. |
| 20:50.42 | azeem | rue_mohr: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to configure X |
| 20:50.49 | emdash | deb-noob: errrr sorry: btdownloadgui and btdownloadcurses |
| 20:50.57 | cureless | anymo: check /etc/fstab to see what you're trying to mount. Realize that under different kernel configurations some disks may appear differently (i.e. SATA disks, etc) |
| 20:51.11 | TheDracle | Is anybody here familiar with module-assistant? |
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| 20:51.30 | azeem | TheDracle: just ask your question, maybe somebody knows |
| 20:51.34 | rue_mohr | azeem it didn't configure it properly the first time, why should I expect that it will if I keep running it? |
| 20:51.41 | TheDracle | Like, it goes through, builds my gpib-modules package, doesn't seem to have any real errors--- and then it looks like it deletes them. |
| 20:51.43 | faye77 | i'm trying to get a rough idea (+- 3 months) about when etch is likely to be released but found no info online. where can i find out? |
| 20:51.46 | anymo | cureless: so it might be due to fstab? |
| 20:51.48 | TheDracle | And cleans the entire source tree. |
| 20:51.53 | azeem | rue_mohr: maybe you should start to tell us what the problem actually is |
| 20:52.05 | rue_mohr | it cant find any valid video modes |
| 20:52.11 | rue_mohr | cause its not configured properly |
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| 20:52.18 | cureless | anymo: probably. It's that or your bootloader (lilo/grub) |
| 20:52.19 | TheDracle | And then when I try to install them, it says there was an error with the build--- but there wasn't. |
| 20:52.19 | azeem | rue_mohr: what graphics card do you have? |
| 20:52.24 | chealer | anymo: what problem do the I/O errors cause? |
| 20:52.31 | rue_mohr | an ati radeon rv200 |
| 20:52.33 | emdash | rue_mohr: editing an x config file by hand isn't that bad |
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| 20:52.38 | azeem | rue_mohr: how old is that? |
| 20:52.40 | anymo | cureless: because when I try to boot my suse again after installing grubs debian I can't it moves for one place hda3>hda4 so it won't load.. |
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| 20:52.50 | emdash | rue_mohr: none of the configurator tool ever seem to get it right for me either |
| 20:52.53 | anymo | chealer: they simply list.. so nothing happens |
| 20:52.54 | holden | hi . what's the right channel to ask newbie questions about running debian ? |
| 20:52.59 | azeem | holden: this one |
| 20:53.03 | emdash | rue_mohr: what isn't working for you? |
| 20:53.09 | rue_mohr | I think the trick is to install the 4 bit server |
| 20:53.16 | azeem | 22:46 < rue_mohr> it cant find any valid video modes |
| 20:53.19 | anymo | chealer: it only says I/O error on that section , then on that, then on that... endless :S |
| 20:53.23 | azeem | rue_mohr: how old is that? |
| 20:53.23 | rue_mohr | I have no valid mode lines because apt did not configure it right |
| 20:53.30 | rue_mohr | apt never configures it right |
| 20:53.35 | cureless | holden: here is fine, but be prepared to endure the wrath of the channel if you didn't try to find the info first. |
| 20:53.38 | rue_mohr | you always ahve to reconfigure it after installing x |
| 20:53.42 | azeem | rue_mohr: how old is your graphics card? |
| 20:53.46 | emdash | rue_mohr: 4-bit?? how old is this thing? |
| 20:53.56 | anymo | cureless: what could be wrong with boot loader so I can keep an eye on that? |
| 20:53.58 | rue_mohr | I typically use XF86Setup, but I cant cause its not here and seems to have dissapeaered |
| 20:54.01 | azeem | rue_mohr: how old is your graphics card? |
| 20:54.03 | deb-noob | where can I find the folder od Fluxbox? |
| 20:54.12 | rue_mohr | an ati radeon rv200 |
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| 20:54.14 | azeem | rue_mohr: how old is your graphics card? |
| 20:54.16 | rue_mohr | an ati radeon rv200 |
| 20:54.18 | azeem | rue_mohr: how old is your graphics card? |
| 20:54.20 | emdash | rue_mohr: you could try changing the default-bpp value to have it start in 4-bit mode |
| 20:54.31 | rue_mohr | I dont want ... oh forget it |
| 20:54.32 | cureless | anymo: well, if you installed a boot loader over the other boot loader then the options of the first one are gone. How are you booting both OSs? |
| 20:54.40 | anymo | cureless: it boots that base system after initial installation but when I try to install some packages (desktop type of install) I can't... |
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| 20:55.02 | n3x^ | back :[ |
| 20:55.02 | emdash | rue_mohr: i have no idea how old an ati radeon rv200 is |
| 20:55.04 | cureless | anymo: so you can now boot basic debian? |
| 20:55.10 | croddy | i've added a line to /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libgphoto2.rules to support a camera that was not listed before; i'd like to determine whether this file originates upstream or in debian so that i can figure out whether/where to submit the patch. any ideas? |
| 20:55.11 | rue_mohr | its a few years old |
| 20:55.27 | anymo | cureless: not now because I deleted that partition , but yes I could boot it |
| 20:55.30 | emdash | rue_mohr: is it accelerated? |
| 20:55.32 | cureless | croddy: look at the source package. |
| 20:55.39 | rue_mohr | dont worry about it |
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| 20:55.43 | rue_mohr | thanks |
| 20:55.51 | anymo | cureless: that setup that comes right after first part of installation |
| 20:55.54 | emdash | you probably should read up on your card |
| 20:55.57 | n3x^ | when i run linux26 install it freezes on a blue screen just before showing me the keyboard layout selection screen... doesnt happen with the 2.4 kernel install... any1 know what to do? |
| 20:55.59 | cureless | anymo: so you deleted the partition? how are you testing things now? |
| 20:55.59 | rue_mohr | I'll just beat my head against it till I get it working like I always do |
| 20:56.23 | rue_mohr | if I want to do it the hard wasy I'll find the program that calculates mode lines and hand edit the config |
| 20:56.26 | cureless | n3x^: install with 2.4 then upgrade the kernel later. |
| 20:56.28 | anymo | cureless: I deleted it because I wan't to try tomorrow with fresh start.. |
| 20:56.38 | emdash | rue_mohr: i thought modelines were for monitors |
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| 20:56.46 | cureless | anymo: then come back tomorrow |
| 20:56.47 | rue_mohr | thanks, bye |
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| 20:56.49 | emdash | rue_mohr: i oculd be wrong though |
| 20:56.53 | emdash | gar |
| 20:56.58 | anymo | cureless: I came here to get some info on which thigs I have to keep an eye.. |
| 20:56.59 | cureless | emdash: you're not wrong |
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| 20:57.13 | cureless | anymo: well, there should be nothing preventing you from having a working system |
| 20:57.27 | cureless | just don't install over your old one and be careful when overwriting the boot loader. |
| 20:57.58 | anymo | cureless: is there any reason why should debian try to install things on hdb (which doesn't exist)? is it due to fstab? |
| 20:58.03 | deb-noob | where can I find the folder od Fluxbox? |
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| 20:58.37 | emitchlpd | does anyone know a commandline utility that will just return the full pathname of files provided as arguments? |
| 20:58.45 | TheDracle | Holy crap, it literally creates 'all' of the .kos, and then deletes them. |
| 20:58.50 | cureless | anymo: fstab will come into play after it's installed. There is no reason for debian to use something you don't have |
| 20:59.10 | emitchlpd | so if I do 'gimmefullpath .bashrc' it will return /home/emitchlpd/.bashrc |
| 20:59.10 | cureless | deb-noob: locate fluxbox |
| 20:59.13 | ceplma | emitchlpd: readlink -f |
| 20:59.22 | anymo | cureless: but I have installed debian base system.. and now I need to get packages installed |
| 20:59.30 | emitchlpd | ah ha |
| 20:59.36 | emitchlpd | ceplma: thankyouverymuch |
| 20:59.37 | cureless | anymo: I thought you said you deleted the partition? |
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| 21:00.01 | anymo | cureless: yes I did.. now.. but I have suceeded in installing debian base system |
| 21:00.12 | cureless | anymo: well, when you have it back come and ask questions |
| 21:00.16 | anymo | cureless: the only problem is installing the packages... |
| 21:00.46 | ceplma | once more, does anybody where to find documentation for LANGUAGE environment variable? |
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| 21:01.02 | anymo | cureless: ok than, thanks for help, I'll come back tomorrow than after at least I manage to get debian base to work |
| 21:01.36 | unity | does anyone know a really quick and nice way to put a jpg into a pdf, ps, or dvi file as large as possible, covering the page? |
| 21:01.47 | deb-noob | cureless: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such files ....that'S what it say |
| 21:02.07 | anymo | cureless: just another thing, why does grub move suse from hda3 on hda4 after debian install (while suse is still on hda3 actually) |
| 21:02.11 | cureless | unity: print to ps from gimp |
| 21:02.15 | unity | deb-noob: run updatedb as root to create that file |
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| 21:02.54 | cureless | anymo: debian doesn't move stuff, neither does grub. But if you repartitioned your harddrive your partition numbers may change |
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| 21:03.08 | anymo | cureless: after installing debian base and it's grub I can't boot suse anymore |
| 21:03.12 | dmcmorris | Hey! I'm having trouble... I just installed Xorg on Debian, but can't remember the command to build the initial configuration... Isn't there another tool I have to get? |
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| 21:03.20 | anymo | cureless: I get some kernel panic message |
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| 21:03.31 | cureless | anymo: yes, your boot loader is messed up |
| 21:03.43 | unity | cureless: i was hoping for a command-line thing because i need to do it to a lot of files, and also, i need to download a lot to install gimp |
| 21:03.57 | anymo | curelles: mine or debian's? since suse's works great... |
| 21:04.04 | deb-noob | does anybody know How to create desktop icons with fluxbox? |
| 21:04.06 | ceplma | dmcmorris: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver? |
| 21:04.10 | zamaliphe | evry time i try to kde program apt-get tray to upgrade the all kde what shold i do? |
| 21:04.17 | cureless | anymo: the one that is currently not working |
| 21:04.23 | anymo | cureless: only after I use suse's repair utility... |
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| 21:04.52 | cureless | unity: convert. |
| 21:05.15 | cureless | unity: from imagemagick |
| 21:05.16 | dmcmorris | I'll try it ceplma, thanks... |
| 21:05.19 | zamaliphe | like that Need to get 126MB/126MB of archives. |
| 21:05.19 | zamaliphe | After unpacking 26.4MB of additional disk space will be used |
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| 21:05.26 | anymo | cureless: ok, thanks for your help, I'll be back tomorrow when I catch some more time... |
| 21:05.43 | zamaliphe | i use kde 3.4.3 |
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| 21:06.09 | unity | cureless: thx i will take a look |
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| 21:06.32 | devazion | Hi, what package do I need to install to make my KDE able to mount my usb devices without beeing root and without putting it into fstab? |
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| 21:07.48 | vhuren | whats the exact chmod for -rwxr--r-- |
| 21:08.00 | Neur0n_ | 755 |
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| 21:08.27 | vhuren | thanx |
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| 21:08.34 | Neur0n_ | you're welcome |
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| 21:08.41 | [machine] | vhuren: or u+rwx,g+r,o+r |
| 21:08.43 | unity | vhuren: not debhelper's numer |
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| 21:10.19 | Neur0n_ | hey guys |
| 21:10.36 | Neur0n_ | does anybody of you have problems with the new kernel 2.6.16 and IPTABLES? |
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| 21:10.46 | dmesg_ | hi |
| 21:10.48 | dmesg_ | i have problems |
| 21:10.48 | Neur0n_ | I read in the forums a lot of complains about this |
| 21:10.55 | unity | dmesg_: just ask |
| 21:10.57 | dmesg_ | my x window dont start |
| 21:11.01 | Neur0n_ | and I'm having some compliations with this |
| 21:11.08 | dmesg_ | it says sysbols dont found |
| 21:11.17 | dmesg_ | :s |
| 21:11.28 | unity | dmesg_: what is sysbols? is that a font? |
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| 21:11.48 | dmesg_ | unity i dont know, it says that when i startx |
| 21:12.08 | Neur0n_ | dmesg_ message of /var/log/....? |
| 21:12.15 | dmesg_ | yes |
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| 21:12.46 | speedracer | I need to know how to remove all of the files apt-get installs for a certain package |
| 21:12.52 | Neur0n_ | dmesg_ what does the X.log say? |
| 21:12.59 | speedracer | like I want to remove apache2 and re install it fresh |
| 21:13.11 | dmesg_ | neur0n let me see brb |
| 21:13.23 | Neur0n_ | speedracer try apt-get remove --purge apache2 |
| 21:13.59 | speedracer | i did |
| 21:14.11 | speedracer | Neur0n_: it didn't remove all of the files |
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| 21:15.40 | cureless | speedracer: remove /etc/apache2 |
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| 21:16.03 | plb | I got a question I just installed wordpress and uploads go to /usr/share/wordpress/wp-content/uploads however when it goes to retrieve the upload it looks in /var/www/wp-content/uploads..anyone know how I can fix this |
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| 21:17.30 | dmesg_ | it says no sysbols found when i try to startx :S |
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| 21:17.52 | Neur0n_ | speedracer what do you mean with "it didn't remove all of the files"? |
| 21:17.59 | unity | Neur0n_: btw, isn't -rwxr--r-- 744 ? |
| 21:18.17 | speedracer | it didn't remove any of the files in the apache2 dir in etc |
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| 21:18.38 | speedracer | what happened is I accidentally overwrote a module trying to do a symlink and I wanted to do a fresh install |
| 21:18.40 | Neur0n_ | unity yes, why? |
| 21:18.53 | Neur0n_ | rwx -> 7 and r-- ->4 |
| 21:18.55 | dmesg_ | i cant startx it says no sysbols found, on XFree86.log |
| 21:19.05 | unity | Neur0n_: didn't you tell vhuren it was 755? |
| 21:19.12 | Neur0n_ | did I? |
| 21:19.24 | Neur0n_ | fuck! I probably typed wrong! |
| 21:19.32 | traian | hello |
| 21:19.33 | speedracer | Neur0n_: It didn't remove the apache2 files in /etc/apache2. what happened is I accidentally overwrote a module trying to do a symlink and I wanted to do a fresh install |
| 21:19.57 | vhuren | i fixed ;) |
| 21:20.00 | traian | when i try to update with apt it crashes at this package every time |
| 21:20.00 | traian | x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb |
| 21:20.12 | traian | is there a problem with it? |
| 21:20.19 | dmesg_ | i need help to fix my xwindow system |
| 21:20.31 | traian | it won't unpack it |
| 21:20.32 | vhuren | neur0n_: do you have experience with pki? Permission denied (publickey). I get that error |
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| 21:20.53 | traian | can i do anything about it? |
| 21:21.14 | Neur0n_ | vhuren not much, but I know that with /etc/ssh/sshd_config you can change it |
| 21:21.35 | traian | please |
| 21:21.37 | traian | anyone? |
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| 21:21.54 | traian | is the pachake broken? |
| 21:22.23 | traian | pkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 21:22.32 | traian | this is the first line of the error message |
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| 21:24.00 | traian | am i the only one with this problem? |
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| 21:25.31 | apecat | hooray. debian testing got firefox 1.5 |
| 21:25.34 | UncleSkunk | ?? isn't base-config a command? |
| 21:26.09 | nse | traian: you are flooding the channel. write one line with all the necessary information and then people will do their best to help you |
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| 21:26.22 | Shadowcat | !tell traian about scroll |
| 21:26.30 | Shadowcat | bah |
| 21:26.32 | Shadowcat | !scroll |
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| 21:26.55 | Shadowcat | !scroll is <reply> Ok we now that you know how to press enter. Now type at least one sentence before pressing next time. |
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| 21:26.56 | dpkg | okay, Shadowcat |
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| 21:27.11 | traian | !scroll |
| 21:27.11 | dpkg | Ok we now that you know how to press enter. Now type at least one sentence before pressing next time. |
| 21:27.14 | traian | ? |
| 21:27.15 | speedracer | so yeah, anyone have any ideas on my apt problem? |
| 21:27.21 | unity | what is the lpr arguments to enable toner-saving mode for hp laserjet 1200? |
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| 21:27.47 | Neur0n_ | speedracer no idea... |
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| 21:27.59 | Neur0n_ | I usually remove with --purge option |
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| 21:28.06 | speedracer | i tried that |
| 21:28.12 | speedracer | but it wouldn't remove it |
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| 21:28.21 | speedracer | it left all the modules, everything there |
| 21:28.23 | Neur0n_ | and the problem is... you have /etc/apache2.conf ? |
| 21:28.29 | unity | Shad0wcat: try !enter |
| 21:28.48 | unity | oops wrong nick |
| 21:28.58 | unity | Shadowcat: try !enter |
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| 21:29.09 | unity | the irony of what i just did... |
| 21:29.29 | Shadowcat | heh, they're both me |
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| 21:30.19 | war92 | Errors were encountered while processing -> /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb -> : Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 21:30.22 | war92 | testing broken? |
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| 21:31.07 | speedracer | Neur0n_: no, the problem is, that I accidentally overwrote a module that I needed and then tired to uninstall and reinstall, but that didn't work |
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| 21:31.19 | ekinnee | connect pinky |
| 21:31.26 | ekinnee | grr |
| 21:31.31 | speedracer | Neur0n_: then I tried apt-get remove --purge and that didn't work |
| 21:31.42 | emdash | has anyone else noticed that a lot of themes don't seem to work in xfce |
| 21:31.50 | speedracer | then I tried removing the /etc/apache folder and THAT didn't work |
| 21:31.51 | emdash | gtk2.0 themes i mean |
| 21:32.12 | emdash | i'm running sarge's gtk, which i guess is 2.6.8 |
| 21:32.54 | Neur0n_ | speedracer can you remove the module first |
| 21:32.56 | Neur0n_ | and the apache2? |
| 21:33.01 | emdash | actually now that i think about it, a lot of them didn't work with gnome either |
| 21:33.10 | emdash | you just see the default gtk2.0 theme |
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| 21:33.35 | emdash | in particular the clearlooks, smooth and ish themes |
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| 21:35.55 | speedracer | Neur0n_: I already rm -rf'ed /etc/apache2 |
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| 21:36.29 | strikinado | Hi, why when I add "disable_funcions" in php.ini It don´t work? PHP 4.4.1 |
| 21:38.07 | Neur0n_ | speedracer didn't it work? |
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| 21:40.05 | menko | hi people, I'm looking for an address to use for a "blackhole" proxy, that redirects to nothing. I can just use a fake address and use that to block websites, but that still hammers(and often crashes) my router. |
| 21:40.20 | menko | So, is there an address that I can get to not go through the router? |
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| 21:41.28 | alex_alex | menko - how about your loopback address 127.0.0.1 |
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| 21:41.48 | strikinado | Hi, why when I add "disable_funcions" in php.ini It don´t work? PHP 4.4.1? |
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| 21:43.03 | menko | alex_alex: I believethat was the address that I tried first, but I can try it again. I can't try it now however, because there are other things using the router and I can't monitor it. So I'll add it to my (very small) list of things to try. |
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| 21:43.46 | menko | I was thinking something to do with the hosts file, but unfortunately I know nothing of how they work |
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| 21:45.03 | Thanatermesis | what is the correct crontab for a work every hour ? |
| 21:45.38 | alex_alex | menko - sending packets to 127.0.0.1 should stay on your local computer, not even go out on your eth0 or lan . if you are re-directing a web site, for example, then a browser access to 127.0.0.1 (aka http://localhost ) will go back to your local web server (this may or may not be what you want) |
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| 21:46.34 | stew | Thanatermesis: "10 * * * * command" would run command at 12:10, 1:10, 2:10,.... there is also /etc/cron.hourly where you can drop a script to run as root at 17 past the hour, but the script name must be run-parts compatible (man run-parts) |
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| 21:46.45 | menko | alex_alex: thanks, hopefully when I try it it'll work |
| 21:46.56 | Sonny | Hi, did somebody install skype with no problems? |
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| 21:47.43 | stew | Sonny: are you having problems with libqt-mt or something similar? |
| 21:48.24 | Sonny | stew, no I want to install it but I dont know what repository is the right one |
| 21:48.34 | menko | alex_alex: what port should I use with 127.0.0.1? |
| 21:48.57 | Thanatermesis | stew thank, i have tried the gui "gnome-scheduler" but aparently is totally unusable... don't understand anything (aparently) of the times and don't launch any cron really |
| 21:49.02 | stew | Sonny: since its not free, debian can't distribute it, but i believe there are debs on debian-unofficial.org |
| 21:49.11 | Neur0n_ | does anybody have problems with IPTABLES and the kernel 2.6.16? |
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| 21:49.56 | alex_alex | menko - port? you mean like tcp/udp port? |
| 21:50.01 | phogg | Neur0n_: I think it's slacking off and smoking weed. What is yours doing? |
| 21:50.13 | Neur0n_ | well phogg |
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| 21:50.34 | Neur0n_ | I don't have Iptables with the new kernel... |
| 21:50.43 | menko | alex_alex: hehehe, not sure, but usually when I work with proxies they require an address and a port |
| 21:50.46 | Sonny | stew, ahat about the debian package from tha page of skype? |
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| 21:51.12 | strikinado | Hi, why when I add "disable_funcions" in php.ini It don´t work? PHP 4.4.1? |
| 21:51.13 | Neur0n_ | and I copied the .config of the last running (with iptables) kernel |
| 21:51.24 | Neur0n_ | I didn't find anything in the changelog |
| 21:51.26 | Thanatermesis | stew what * */1 * * * means ? |
| 21:52.06 | phogg | Neur0n_: define "don't have iptables" |
| 21:52.32 | Neur0n_ | phogg when I do iptables -L with the new kernel |
| 21:52.40 | Neur0n_ | FATAL: Module ip_tables not found. |
| 21:52.47 | stew | Thanatermesis: it's a poor way of saying run every minute |
| 21:52.48 | alex_alex | menko : i guess i don't know enough to answer, sorry. actually i'm here to ask a question as well. |
| 21:52.49 | Neur0n_ | iptables v1.3.3: can't initialize iptables table `filter' |
| 21:53.12 | phogg | Neur0n_: ls /proc/net/netfilter |
| 21:53.20 | menko | alex_alex: k |
| 21:53.53 | Thanatermesis | hum... strange way to define times.. |
| 21:54.17 | Neur0n_ | phogg nf_log nf_queue |
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| 21:54.48 | phogg | Neur0n_: I dunno, then. |
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| 21:55.44 | Neur0n_ | ok phogg I will look into the kernel options |
| 21:56.59 | UncleSkunk | oh so I can have sudo command in debian.. thought that is was special to ubuntu |
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| 21:57.26 | azeem | UncleSkunk: Ubuntu is just special in so far as they have it by default |
| 21:57.38 | azeem | UncleSkunk: something which is actually "borrowed" from Mac OS X |
| 21:57.49 | jair | hello guys, how can I see if an specific process is running?? ps -aux cat?? |
| 21:57.54 | UncleSkunk | really? well I love it |
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| 21:57.57 | phogg | damn OSX wannabes. GNOME, too. |
| 21:58.09 | jair | I am trying to chekc is an specific server is running or not? |
| 21:58.16 | phogg | jair: ps aux|grep cat |
| 21:58.27 | jair | phogg, thank you very much |
| 21:58.58 | UncleSkunk | exit |
| 21:59.06 | jair | phogg, this means that this server is running right? root 26183 0.0 0.1 35760 1920 ? S Apr06 0:00 ./sc_serv |
| 21:59.25 | alex_alex | my computer used to run Debian 2.2 and the hardware hasnt changed. specifically my PCI Ethernet adapter ( Digital DC21040 Tulip - been supported by Debian for long time ). I just installed Debian 3.1r1 from CD and as soon as DHCP prob is done the LINK-light on the switch port this ethernet adapter connects to goes OUT (e.g. the link light is on, then during linux startup it will go out), how do i go about troubleshooting this pl |
| 22:00.11 | jair | phogg, and if this is a streaming server I should runnit as regular user or as root only like I am doing it now. |
| 22:00.13 | phogg | jair: no idea. It means there's a process named sc_serv which has not yet exited |
| 22:00.28 | jair | phogg, ok |
| 22:00.49 | phogg | jair: in general do not run things as root unless absolutely necessary |
| 22:03.27 | Sonny | Syanptics tells me that some pkgs couldn be checked cause my public key is not avaiable, how can I solve it? |
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| 22:03.46 | menko | ok I set it to 127.1.1.0 , let's see if my router crashes... |
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| 22:04.06 | menko | I mean 127.0.0.1... |
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| 22:04.54 | bzrk | Sonny by reading the topic |
| 22:04.58 | jsmidt | I'm trying to install manpages-dev and get this error: dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe). Does anybody know what I can do about this? |
| 22:05.11 | Sonny | bzrk, oki |
| 22:06.09 | azeem | jsmidt: known bug, AFAIK |
| 22:06.39 | jsmidt | azeem, thanks |
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| 22:08.28 | Sonny | Hey, I cant see any package from debian unofficial, I added the line to sources,list and uptated my packages list, whats happen? |
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| 22:09.21 | ryan` | what's the memory page size on i386? |
| 22:09.54 | bbrazil | 4k |
| 22:10.00 | ryan` | ty. |
| 22:10.03 | bbrazil | on i686 it can also be 1MB iirc |
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| 22:10.29 | ryan` | this is a 486 and a 586, so i don't have to worry, i suppose :) |
| 22:10.38 | ryan` | 4KB or 4Kb? |
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| 22:11.50 | devnull_ | hello having a divert error again ... there was a very simple answer i was given yesterday .... one command to get the package to remove itself cleanly |
| 22:12.26 | devnull_ | cant remember what it was |
| 22:13.11 | pixolet | was it apt-get remove --purge <package> |
| 22:13.24 | devnull_ | nope |
| 22:13.28 | devnull_ | apt-get remove wont work |
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| 22:14.42 | alex_alex | on my new 3.1r1 install, my ethernet adapter ( Digital DC21040 ) has a driver loaded ( according to lsmod ) and ifconfig reports it "UP", but the link light goes when the driver (or the DHCP probe) is done. I suspect during install it did a successful DHCP probe, how else could it know the correct domain for my network ) how do I diag an ethernet adapter whose link goes down during system startup, but ifconfig says is "UP" ? |
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| 22:14.49 | azeem | devnull_: what are you doing all the time to get your system hosed? |
| 22:14.54 | azeem | devnull_: are you running unstable? |
| 22:14.56 | devnull_ | hehe |
| 22:14.59 | priscila | devnull_: dpkg --remove --purge |
| 22:15.05 | simonrvn | um |
| 22:15.06 | devnull_ | i am still playing with fglrx |
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| 22:15.57 | devnull_ | hmmm no go on that either |
| 22:16.18 | devnull_ | i am just an idiot and just did that same thing i did yesterday |
| 22:16.33 | menko | devnull_: well what's the error? |
| 22:16.33 | priscila | devnull_: were you using aptitude? |
| 22:16.41 | devnull_ | no aptitude |
| 22:17.10 | devnull_ | dpkg-divert: mismatch divert-to |
| 22:17.50 | devnull_ | well what happened was i used a package created by ati installer and now i can't remove it |
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| 22:18.06 | devnull_ | something very simple yesterday to remove it though |
| 22:18.49 | menko | hey does anyone know how to get it to stop complaining about the public key not available for nerim's repositories? |
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| 22:19.17 | holden | question: if i install a new command, how can i have the shell find it (so that i can autocomplete) without having to log out and in again? |
| 22:20.02 | devnull_ | holden i believe if the program is in a directory in your path it will find it |
| 22:20.11 | Sonny | Hey,Why I cant see any package from debian unofficial,Even if I added the line to sources,list and did apt-ge update ? |
| 22:20.43 | azeem | Sonny: check the respective file in /var/lib/apt/lists or so |
| 22:20.50 | azeem | are Packages mentioned in there? |
| 22:20.50 | priscila | holden: to use tab completation, the command must be any path at you $PATH variable |
| 22:21.26 | priscila | s/you/your |
| 22:21.31 | devnull_ | hmm i guess that is what i get for being stupid |
| 22:22.18 | ryan` | hmmm |
| 22:22.23 | holden | devnull_ priscila : the program in in my path. yet i can't autocomplete it until i relog in |
| 22:22.37 | holden | i am using Zsh if that helps |
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| 22:22.49 | devnull_ | holden is it executable? |
| 22:23.14 | Sonny | azzem, yes I can see the file where you tell me,so whats happening? |
| 22:23.35 | devnull_ | so i am still trying to get gl running in ati/radeon/fglrx |
| 22:23.41 | holden | devnull_: yes. when i relog in, i can execute it. also yes by looking at the file's permissions |
| 22:24.34 | holden | could it be that Zsh chaches executables in PATH when it first loads? |
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| 22:24.42 | fiendskull9 | hey |
| 22:24.44 | fiendskull9 | got a problem |
| 22:24.47 | fiendskull9 | i installed debian last night, all went well |
| 22:24.52 | fiendskull9 | but every time i try to do apt-get |
| 22:24.58 | fiendskull9 | i get a problem |
| 22:25.08 | priscila | fiendskull9: what problem? |
| 22:25.08 | fiendskull9 | it "cant remove e2fsprog" |
| 22:25.11 | fiendskull9 | i beleive it is |
| 22:25.38 | Nippoo | try apt-get update |
| 22:25.45 | fiendskull9 | Nippoo, ok |
| 22:26.03 | Nippoo | heh |
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| 22:26.14 | devnull_ | for my problem i just dpkg -i different-xorg-driver-fglrx |
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| 22:29.41 | priscila | devnull_: i think dpkg -i just shows package's information, what problem do you solved with this command? |
| 22:30.00 | Eulex | priscila, no, -i installs. |
| 22:30.22 | Eulex | priscila, -I is info |
| 22:30.35 | priscila | hm |
| 22:31.12 | dondelelcaro | -I is really "show me control files and some basic information" |
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| 22:33.32 | pop_korn | hi |
| 22:33.48 | pop_korn | for $a (@list){ |
| 22:33.49 | pop_korn | if ($a !~ /\w+\.txt/i){ |
| 22:33.59 | Azar | not in hell! I rather would stay with Sarge or Woody than have DRM imposed on my box |
| 22:34.01 | pop_korn | how to delet element of @alist ? |
| 22:34.28 | pop_korn | oops =) |
| 22:34.42 | holden | regarding my question, i figured the answer. Zsh does cache commands in the path, so if you install a new program you have to recreate the cache. you can re-log in, or there is the command rehash (which is what i was looking for) |
| 22:34.46 | dondelelcaro | pop_korn: slice, unshift, or pop. |
| 22:34.47 | Eulex | pop_korn, ask #bash? |
| 22:34.51 | ootput | hi guys, would it be kind of nutty to use a terminal of size 70 rather than 80? |
| 22:35.08 | ootput | would any ncurses apps fail due to mininum window size specifications? |
| 22:35.15 | dondelelcaro | ootput: you can use a terminal of any size... just don't be surprised when things don't work. |
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| 22:37.19 | ootput | dondelelcaro: would staring at a small font all day be bad for the eyes? |
| 22:37.28 | ootput | dondelelcaro: slightly o/t, i know.. |
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| 22:38.14 | dondelelcaro | ootput: if it's uncomfortable, use a larger font. |
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| 22:47.32 | dario | hi |
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| 22:52.02 | cureless | ep1diseparc |
| 22:52.22 | cureless | osdfsdf .... maybe I should drop stuff on the keyboard. |
| 22:54.06 | madd_matt | I was wondering how i could go about doing something. I have two directories. One of them contains some files the other doesn't but most are duplicates. Basically, i want to copy all the files from one dir to the other, but not overwrite anything |
| 22:54.52 | Azar | cp them with another name |
| 22:55.32 | cureless | do "cp -i" |
| 22:55.35 | Stevie | I think he means 'in bulk' |
| 22:55.54 | madd_matt | Like, i don't want to overwrite |
| 22:56.06 | cureless | madd_matt: cp -i will ask you |
| 22:56.09 | madd_matt | i don't want to say "no" to 5 thousand files... |
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| 22:56.25 | cureless | madd_matt: then just use rsync |
| 22:56.26 | Azar | you overwrite when you use same name but if you have "name" you can copy it as "name1" |
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| 22:57.11 | JRtheGooB | whats the quickest way to compile a new module from kernel source and install it without erasing all your old modules. kernel 2.6.x |
| 22:57.26 | madd_matt | what i'm doing is copying a music collection from one computer to another. i've already got half of it, but i want the other half. its over a slow(ish) network connection so i only want to copy the files i need... |
| 22:57.38 | cureless | JRtheGooB: doesn't just make modules and make modules-install work? |
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| 22:57.51 | kingspawn | madd_matt: script, then |
| 22:57.57 | cureless | madd_matt: use rsync with size |
| 22:57.58 | kingspawn | madd_matt: ala "if exists, skip" |
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| 22:58.20 | cureless | madd_matt: or just rsync with no overwrite |
| 22:58.36 | JRtheGooB | cureless: no |
| 22:58.51 | cureless | JRtheGooB: why not? |
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| 22:58.55 | JRtheGooB | cureless: not in 2.6.x and if i do a make modules_install it erases any modules made outside the kernel |
| 22:59.28 | cureless | JRtheGooB: hmm, I seem to remember the compile process being better. You might be right about the install though |
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| 22:59.47 | cureless | JRtheGooB: in that case, just compile and copy by hand |
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| 23:01.51 | Nin | phogg are you there? |
| 23:02.06 | phogg | Nin: NO |
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| 23:02.08 | Nin | I found the problem with IPTABLES and the kernel 2.6.16* |
| 23:02.43 | JRtheGooB | cureless: id figure this was trivial im surprised nobody has an answer |
| 23:02.44 | chealer | JRtheGooB: just # m-a a-i foo; ? |
| 23:02.56 | JRtheGooB | chealer: huh? |
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| 23:02.59 | blondie | Nin broke the internets. |
| 23:03.08 | cureless | JRtheGooB: m-a, module-assistant, have you tried that? |
| 23:03.14 | Nin | blondie XD |
| 23:03.35 | JRtheGooB | cureless: no nor do i have that tool |
| 23:03.36 | phogg | I can't compile shfs on 2.6.16. Damn kernel devs keep changing things... |
| 23:03.37 | blondie | o.o |
| 23:04.05 | JRtheGooB | i guess this isnt so trivial after all. heh |
| 23:04.32 | cureless | JRtheGooB: are you using debian kernels? |
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| 23:04.48 | cureless | JRtheGooB: module-assistant is in apt, just apt-getit. |
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| 23:06.22 | cureless | JRtheGooB: btw, you can also just do "make net/xxx/xxx/xx.ko" and it'll compile it |
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| 23:06.46 | cureless | JRtheGooB: are you using the debian kernel? are you adding a module from source? what is your scenario? |
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| 23:07.04 | dob1 | there is an approsimative date to when xgl will be on debian? |
| 23:07.23 | dondelelcaro | dob1: when it's on Debian. If you want to help, ask gravity what he needs done. |
| 23:07.35 | JRtheGooB | cureless: I am adding video4linux cx88 |
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| 23:08.15 | cureless | JRtheGooB: but, are you using a debian kernel? doesn't it not have it compiled? give a complete explanation |
| 23:08.28 | JRtheGooB | cureless: I have the 2.6.x source that I built my kernel off of. I want to install a new module. I did a make menuconfig selected that module.. and now i want to install without doing make modules_install. if I do a make modules_install it will erase my nvidia module and I will to reinstall that |
| 23:08.43 | JRtheGooB | it is not a debian kernel |
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| 23:09.01 | cureless | JRtheGooB: well, you can just backup your nvidia module, or install it again |
| 23:09.19 | cureless | JRtheGooB: the problem is not the kernel module, is the nvidia module. |
| 23:09.20 | JRtheGooB | cureless: i think i have another module or two that were installed seperately |
| 23:09.54 | JRtheGooB | im suprised that it forces you to erase the modules directory |
| 23:09.59 | cureless | JRtheGooB: did you compile the module already? |
| 23:10.09 | JRtheGooB | i dont even know where the compiled module is stored after i did a make modules |
| 23:10.14 | JRtheGooB | cureless: yes |
| 23:10.16 | cureless | JRtheGooB: that is because things might have changed and some modules might be incompatible. |
| 23:10.28 | cureless | JRtheGooB: if you compiled the module already why don't you just copy it? |
| 23:10.31 | priscila | JRtheGooB: i think you have to install the nvidia driver in this kernel to use it. |
| 23:10.36 | JRtheGooB | i dont know where it was built |
| 23:10.48 | cureless | right there |
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| 23:11.09 | JRtheGooB | its not in my source directory |
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| 23:11.52 | cureless | JRtheGooB: try drivers/media/video ... |
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| 23:12.13 | priscila | JRtheGooB: at least when is a modem driver, just copying it to another kernel it dont work. |
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| 23:13.08 | cureless | JRtheGooB: btw, in case you didn't know, some modules change more than the module itself, so you might (stress on the might) have to install the kernel you just compiled and the modules |
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| 23:13.27 | barry | I am a 12-year linux veteran, but new to debian. I installed the 3.1 sarge release yesderday and got most everything working, including my nvidia and alsa drivers. But when I try to run SDL applications I get about 1/2 second delay on the sounds that play. Has anyone else seen this problem and is there a known fix for it? |
| 23:13.37 | Garda | hey guys, does anyone know where jigdo puts temp files |
| 23:13.44 | JRtheGooB | cureless: the source is there not hte module |
| 23:13.50 | denisnz | hi guys , can anyone help with wifi pcmcia? |
| 23:13.52 | cureless | barry: no idea. |
| 23:14.31 | zinx | barry: sounds like esound to me. |
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| 23:14.48 | priscila | barry: if you're using linux for 12 years, i belive you're a linux guru who dont needs help to do anything :P |
| 23:15.11 | barry | znix what is esound? |
| 23:15.11 | priscila | s/dont/doesnt |
| 23:15.31 | zinx | barry: eh, if you have to ask that, i have to question your credentials |
| 23:15.54 | simonrvn | indeed |
| 23:16.09 | cureless | barry: do you get the problem with other apps? what else are you running? |
| 23:16.20 | denisnz | do you know how to install a wifi card, i had an old one that worked bought a new one yesterday its not automatically recognised by the system, what can i run to install it |
| 23:16.26 | barry | I get the problem only with SDL apps. |
| 23:16.50 | zinx | barry: that's because you only have SDL apps set up to use esd, most likely. |
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| 23:17.00 | cureless | barry: are you using gnome or kde? |
| 23:17.11 | barry | cureless KDE |
| 23:17.20 | zinx | oh, then maybe it's aRTs |
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| 23:17.23 | zinx | either way |
| 23:17.31 | zinx | sound daemons suck :D |
| 23:17.35 | cureless | barry: are your sdl apps running through arts? |
| 23:17.53 | zinx | barry: dpkg -l | grep libsdl |
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| 23:18.10 | cureless | barry: dissable arts so it doesn't start. kill arts, make sure kde doesn't start it, try again |
| 23:18.20 | zinx | barry: or just install libsdl1.2debian-oss or libsdl1.2debian-alsa or something. |
| 23:18.37 | cureless | his default might still be to use arts/esd |
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| 23:18.51 | alex_alex | dinner - have to go |
| 23:19.21 | zinx | cureless: the -oss/-alsa packages are incapable of using anything but oss/alsa |
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| 23:19.52 | Texou | hi |
| 23:19.57 | zinx | cureless: so he'll either get no sound, or non-delayed sound. |
| 23:20.01 | cureless | zinx: true, but you can select the default out of sdl, so he would also have to remove arts and esd |
| 23:20.10 | zinx | cureless: no |
| 23:20.17 | Nippoo-is-sleepi | nick Nippoo-is-asleep |
| 23:20.20 | Nippoo-is-sleepi | err |
| 23:20.25 | zinx | cureless: the -oss/-alsa packages _only support one audio driver_ |
| 23:20.33 | zinx | cureless: there is nothing to select :D |
| 23:20.57 | cureless | zinx: what do you mean no? but if he still has the other (arts/esd sdl) libs it's not always the case |
| 23:21.11 | cureless | s/but// |
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| 23:21.32 | zinx | cureless: No, I'll state it once again since you seemed to miss it the first two times |
| 23:22.04 | zinx | cureless: the libsdl1.2debian-oss package *DOES NOT SUPPORT ANY AUDIO DRIVER BUT OSS*, the libsdl1.2debian-alsa package *DOES NOT SUPPORT ANY AUDIO DRIVER BUT ALSA* |
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| 23:22.12 | zinx | cureless: what other libraries you have on your system make absolutely no difference |
| 23:22.29 | cureless | zinx: how about libsdl1.2debian-esd ? |
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| 23:22.42 | zinx | cureless: that is a different package that conflicts with said packages. |
| 23:22.47 | zinx | cureless: you can only install one. |
| 23:22.56 | cureless | they conflict?? |
| 23:23.00 | zinx | cureless: obviously. |
| 23:23.07 | cureless | so what is libsdl1.2debian-all ? |
| 23:23.16 | zinx | cureless: it is SDL with support for all of the audio drivers |
| 23:23.24 | zinx | cureless: with that one, you can select. |
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| 23:23.57 | zinx | cureless: the packages are not plugins -- they are full SDL compiled with different options |
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| 23:24.04 | cureless | zinx: nevermind then, I stand corrected after checking the packages. |
| 23:24.55 | cureless | always thought sdl was modular. |
| 23:25.18 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 23:25.18 | dpkg | from memory, tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
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| 23:28.39 | merlincorey | sweet |
| 23:28.56 | unstable | only one slot left on the server, hurry |
| 23:28.59 | unstable | 5 people already on |
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| 23:29.43 | merlincorey | reading database... |
| 23:29.47 | merlincorey | I hate this part |
| 23:29.53 | unstable | zinx: come back. |
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| 23:30.39 | merlincorey | is it a bug that it doesn't appear in tetris-like in the games menu |
| 23:30.41 | merlincorey | ? |
| 23:30.49 | merlincorey | or is the menu thing that solidly laid out? |
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| 23:31.10 | merlincorey | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080d7d68 *** |
| 23:31.11 | merlincorey | nice |
| 23:31.14 | unstable | merlincorey: Did you connect to tetrinet.debian.net? |
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| 23:32.00 | d1rt | help with zip drive configuration in woody.... |
| 23:32.30 | simonrvn | d1rt: 100 MB or bigger? |
| 23:32.35 | merlincorey | unstable: it's very unstable and isn't working on my unstable boxen |
| 23:32.57 | unstable | merlincorey: works fine for me on unstable. |
| 23:33.01 | simonrvn | the 100 MB ones you treat it like a floppy, bigger you treat it like an HDD |
| 23:33.10 | unstable | merlincorey: I get the same errors, those messages don't mean anything relevant. |
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| 23:33.13 | d1rt | simonrvn: 100MB parallel port. I just installed woody (compact). the options for modules included "par port" (not ppa- like it sez in the how-tos) |
| 23:33.15 | unstable | merlincorey: Does the application start? |
| 23:33.19 | simonrvn | i.e., the small ones aren't partitionable |
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| 23:33.38 | d1rt | i just want to read and write - not boot for the time being |
| 23:33.39 | simonrvn | i'd also suggest updating to sarge |
| 23:33.58 | d1rt | im on a p1 laptop with 48MB RAM |
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| 23:34.35 | merlincorey | unstable: there isn't an instance of it in my menus, though I did update-menus or I can't find it; running it from console with no options causes a double free detection and then it just sits there.... passing it a server to connect to gets the window open but there is an error in the connection sequence and it goes into an endless loop |
| 23:34.49 | d1rt | which is why i thought an old zip drive would be appropriate |
| 23:35.10 | unstable | merlincorey: tetrinet.debian.net is what you put? |
| 23:35.18 | unstable | merlincorey: Are you at home? |
| 23:35.19 | merlincorey | unstable: yar |
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| 23:35.25 | kainam | Im trying too install qmail with apt-get, when i run build-qmail and it mid-way-thru setting up the config files for qmail i get a hard error "Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS" and it stops |
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| 23:35.33 | d1rt | simonrvn: would it still show as a /dev somewhere??? |
| 23:35.45 | kainam | can anyone elaborate on that for me? my dns seems to be fine |
| 23:35.46 | ricochet | I'm trying to replace uw-imap with dovecot. both are default debian installs. I rn sendmail, procmail, spamassassin. Where is my "inbox"? I see /var/mail/username, but it seems to only hold messages until I click on them in my MUA, then where do they go? my ~/mbox ? |
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| 23:36.41 | triptec | ne1 who has a good spamassain setup? |
| 23:36.55 | merlincorey | triptec: checked google? |
| 23:37.09 | simonrvn | d1rt: yeh it should be, but i'm not sure what device file you'd check. sorry |
| 23:37.19 | triptec | yeah, but I don't get em to work |
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| 23:37.52 | unstable | triptec: /usr/share/doc/spamassasin/examples |
| 23:38.00 | unstable | triptec: Always check /usr/share/doc/programname |
| 23:38.12 | merlincorey | /usr/share/doc/ is the shizzle |
| 23:38.28 | triptec | id like to use spamc insted of spamassasin on my mbox... |
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| 23:38.51 | merlincorey | however, tetrinet's /usr/share/doc/ is less than helpful |
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| 23:39.56 | sorsis | would there be any reason for desktop user to change ubuntu for debian? |
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| 23:40.26 | merlincorey | sorsis: because ubuntu is not debian and you prefer debian to ubuntu but we aren't here for trolling and holy wars |
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| 23:41.39 | sorsis | but i'm here to ask about situation of debian. would prefer me to start reading hundreds of pages instead of asking people who know about things? |
| 23:42.10 | sorsis | would you prefer... |
| 23:42.12 | merlincorey | sorsis: no, I just don't want to engage with a troll or some holy war |
| 23:42.45 | sorsis | ok. i'm not trolling and ignore what others say. just say your opinion. |
| 23:42.54 | simonrvn | sorsis: it's appreciated that you do at least some research, it shows that you have interest in what you want to know, and respect the people you're asking the help from |
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| 23:43.22 | sorsis | simonrvn: i agree on that. |
| 23:43.29 | sorsis | merlincorey: forget what i said |
| 23:43.45 | merlincorey | sorsis: I forgot what you said |
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| 23:43.50 | zepeuga | anyone knows any 3d program to design HOUSES ? |
| 23:43.53 | abb111 | Is there an easy way of typing ¿ |
| 23:44.05 | triptec | sorsis I havent tried ubuntu , but I love debian, and why don't u just try it on...It might fit... |
| 23:44.10 | sorsis | abb111: use spanish layout |
| 23:44.12 | chealer | sorsis: the same generic reasons most people avoid installing LiveCD/Debian-based distros for real use |
| 23:45.06 | sorsis | triptec: i have used debian before i isntalled ubuntu last year. after that i some how forgot debian for some time. |
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| 23:45.37 | bkudria | how do i run x apps with sudo? "sudo echo $DISPLAY" returns ":0.0", but "sudo xclock" returns "Error: Can't open display:" ... what do i do? |
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| 23:46.42 | Stevie | erm |
| 23:47.09 | sorsis | chealer: thats good point but i'm not talking about server environment nor domain of hundreds computers so like others said, it might be better if i read things by myself and make my decicions after thsoe. |
| 23:47.18 | abb111 | sorsis, I can easily type the accented characters ñ, é, í, but I don't really want to change to Spanish just to type question marks |
| 23:47.19 | gnu2it2 | how do you get a gpg key? i'm getting messages about cant authienticate whith apt-get update |
| 23:47.32 | ricochet | what process takes mail out of my /var/mail/username, and puts it in my /home/username/mbox file? |
| 23:48.11 | triptec | ricochet: exim? |
| 23:48.13 | abb111 | Oh, alt gr+shift+minus works |
| 23:50.25 | chealer | sorsis: I'm not talking about server environment particularly nor domain of hundreds computers neither, but the reasons to prefer Debian over Ubuntu are probably already treated somewhere, indeed |
| 23:51.01 | sorsis | chealer: where? |
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| 23:53.47 | ricochet | triptec: I found something that says uw-imap moves the mails from /var/mail/user to ~/mbox. What can I do to automatically do this? |
| 23:54.22 | chealer | sorsis: sorry, I don't know. http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian talks about reasons to use Debian, but not as a comparison with Debian-based "sub-distros". the differences are essentially on weak security support, documentation, projet infrastructure (communication channels, redundancy, etc.) and unclear project durability |
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| 23:54.38 | chealer | s/projet/project |
| 23:54.55 | bkudria | i run "sudo /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure debconf" and i see "dpkg-reconfigure: cannot connect to X server; debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde; debconf: (DISPLAY problem?); debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog" ... how do i fix it? how do i use the KDE frontend? |
| 23:55.20 | sorsis | chealer: that's better than nothing and i found some debian vs. ubuntu articles so i try to amuse myself with these. thanks for tip. |
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| 23:55.52 | triptec | ricochet I'm probably not the right guy, but there should be someone here.... |
| 23:56.08 | Xenguy | chealer: hrm, weak security support? |
| 23:57.29 | chealer | Xenguy: there's one person (the famous Joey Schulze) doing most of Debian's security work (for stable). I doubt many people volunteer to backport security fixes to the stable releases of mini-distributions. |
| 23:57.43 | Stevie | wtf |
| 23:58.21 | Xenguy | chealer: I sure hope they have it covered (but I cannot say with any certainty) -- seems pretty important alright |
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