| 00:00.35 | daeos | i converted from bitchx to irssi-text :) very very nice |
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| 00:03.13 | None4uman | daeos: how do i use a proxy with irssi-text then |
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| 00:05.01 | dimir | None4uman: tsocks is really simple. You install it, set in it's config just 2 things, SOCKS server and port, and then run your application like this: tsocks BitchX <BitchX options> |
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| 00:05.47 | None4uman | ok ima try that |
| 00:06.53 | None4uman | i installed it, how do i edit the options for tsocks |
| 00:07.05 | dimir | Edit /etc/tsocks.conf |
| 00:07.23 | UncleSkunk | when I type startx it says "creating new authority".. sits there then gives up? any ideas? |
| 00:07.58 | dimir | xauth is in your PATH? |
| 00:08.11 | pulga | i just installed mysql-server on sarge and 3 or 4 seconds after it starts the computer reboots or hangs... if X is up the computer rebootx and if not, the computer hangs... i probed mysql 4.0 from sarge r0a, 4.0 from sarge r1, 4.1 from sarge r0a and 4.1 from sarge r1 with the same results... ??? |
| 00:08.33 | UncleSkunk | it says xauth.. dunno if its my "path" |
| 00:08.59 | dimir | UncleSkunk: which xauth |
| 00:09.08 | dimir | UncleSkunk: returns full path? |
| 00:09.27 | UncleSkunk | dimir: let me go back an check hangon .. |
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| 00:12.08 | UncleSkunk | ok returns something about /home/chris/.serverauth.#### and then some /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit.. saying connection refused and "no such process" |
| 00:12.08 | None4uman | when i change the default proxy IP, it wont let me connect giving me an error that tsocks is not on local subnet |
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| 00:13.42 | dimir | None4uman: ah, you will need to 'man tsocks.conf' if SOCKS server is not in the local subnet. |
| 00:14.01 | None4uman | ok |
| 00:14.36 | dimir | UncleSkunk: command: which xauth <--- what returns? |
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| 00:15.34 | Dan | is there a forum for help with debian installs? |
| 00:15.52 | Dan | for linux newbies preferably |
| 00:16.00 | dimir | A lot. |
| 00:16.21 | Dan | any suggestions? is this one of them? |
| 00:16.36 | dandesousa | what you need dan |
| 00:16.37 | UncleSkunk | dimir: /usr/bin/X11/xauth |
| 00:16.43 | dandesousa | im prolly as good as you |
| 00:16.48 | dimir | UncleSkunk: that's fine. |
| 00:17.03 | dandesousa | dan register then pm me |
| 00:17.14 | dimir | Dan: google.com/search?q=install debian forum |
| 00:17.14 | Dan | trying to install debian for first time (over ftp) |
| 00:17.15 | Dan | install gets done |
| 00:17.25 | Dan | but cant "startx" |
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| 00:17.38 | Dan | after install, i get to prompt |
| 00:17.39 | dandesousa | what are you gonna use your system for? |
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| 00:17.44 | dimir | UncleSkunk: how do you run startx, locally, remotely? |
| 00:17.53 | Dan | its an old laptop (toshiba portege) |
| 00:17.55 | UncleSkunk | dimir: locally |
| 00:18.00 | Dan | runs too slow on windows |
| 00:18.02 | dimir | UncleSkunk: no fancy stuff? |
| 00:18.19 | UncleSkunk | dimir: not that Im aware of |
| 00:18.21 | dandesousa | cant help much dan, ive only used debian for server applications :S |
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| 00:18.33 | dimir | UncleSkunk: what happens if you try to run 'xinit'? |
| 00:19.00 | Dan | i ran x86config |
| 00:19.05 | Dan | dont know about xinit |
| 00:19.21 | lnc | anyone using 'psad' jhere? |
| 00:19.24 | lnc | -j |
| 00:19.38 | pulga | i just installed mysql-server on sarge and 3 or 4 seconds after it starts the computer reboots or hangs... if X is up the computer rebootx and if not, the computer hangs... i probed mysql 4.0 from sarge r0a, 4.0 from sarge r1, 4.1 from sarge r0a and 4.1 from sarge r1 with the same results... ??? |
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| 00:20.02 | dimir | pulga: sounds like a hardware problems. |
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| 00:20.32 | dimir | pulga: open the cover and make sure CPU fan is working and stuff. |
| 00:20.32 | UncleSkunk | dimir: thinks awile then gives up.. saying connection refused unable to connect to server, and no such process server error |
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| 00:20.47 | chealer | pulga: with which kernel? |
| 00:20.51 | Dan | odd thing is that my startx seems to crash at a part that is trying to detect the mouse??? |
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| 00:21.10 | dimir | UncleSkunk: try 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' |
| 00:21.13 | dimir | oops |
| 00:21.14 | Dan | most recent debian distro |
| 00:21.18 | dimir | I ment dan. |
| 00:21.19 | dimir | :-) |
| 00:21.30 | abrotman | check the X logs |
| 00:21.48 | pulga | but, how to test it? its rare cause all other things run ok... |
| 00:21.56 | pulga | kernel 2.4 |
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| 00:22.10 | dimir | try 2.6 |
| 00:22.41 | Dan | tks dimir, wil try yr sugg |
| 00:22.50 | dimir | np |
| 00:23.16 | pulga | i was runing mysql ok a month before in another instalation... |
| 00:23.51 | dimir | UncleSkunk: So do what abrotman suggests, check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log. BTW, if you run xinit by root all is well? |
| 00:24.07 | lnc | is it safe to use 'alien' ? |
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| 00:24.21 | UncleSkunk | I'll go try root |
| 00:24.22 | dimir | Does it sound so? |
| 00:24.24 | dimir | :-P |
| 00:24.35 | Marudubshinki | how can I knock out dependencies? I want to install w3m-el, since I have emacs-snapshot installed; but w3m-el depends on xemacs and shit, despite the fact that it runs perfectly on the snapshot, and the dev wot does it seems intent on sitting on the bug report. I know how to get apt-get to install a package from a aprticular release, but not how to modify dependencies. I once asked, and there was a program which created weird little |
| 00:24.35 | Marudubshinki | dependcy modifiers, but that didn't work very well. is it advisable to perhaps look for a way to d/l the w3m-el .deb and have dpkg install it but forget about it? |
| 00:24.38 | pulga | i'll try 2.6 to see if mysql has no problems with it but i have to use 2.4 because of sound drivers... |
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| 00:24.52 | abrotman | they're called dependencies for a reason |
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| 00:26.56 | Fetal | I have a fresh install of Debian, and I am currently attempting to make a new partition for organizational reasons out of UNALLOCATED space. But when I look at partition Magic I have a linux Ext2 partition that I didnt make, that I dont see mounted anywhere and it is 100% used. why? can I delete this? |
| 00:27.01 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.03 | UncleSkunk | dimir: as root when I run xinit it says something along the lines of "warning process set to priority -11 instead of requested priority -10" |
| 00:27.29 | dimir | UncleSkunk: but does X start? |
| 00:27.40 | dimir | UncleSkunk: What the hell did you do to your system? :-D |
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| 00:28.07 | dimir | wmhtet: Correct! :-) |
| 00:28.14 | UncleSkunk | dimir: good question and not it dost start as root |
| 00:28.54 | dimir | UncleSkunk: You are sure have the X server there, aren't you? :-D |
| 00:29.05 | dimir | s/sure have/sure you have/ |
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| 00:30.05 | mackay | Fetal: why not mount the partition and look what is on it? |
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| 00:30.26 | dimir | feta: ye, and see what does fdisk -l tell. |
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| 00:30.33 | UncleSkunk | hah yeah .. all started with this stupid nvidia card. Im just gonna do a fresh install and use onboard graphics |
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| 00:30.43 | dimir | Ooops. |
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| 00:31.12 | foo | What's the easiest way to run a command at boot time before network gets brought up? |
| 00:31.13 | dimir | UncleSkunk: what card? |
| 00:31.23 | mackay | UncleSkunk: who needs 3d accel when you can run ion |
| 00:31.28 | UncleSkunk | dimir: geforce2 |
| 00:31.44 | UncleSkunk | mackay: but I dunno what ion is :( |
| 00:31.54 | dimir | foo: add a script to init.d and put apropreate link to rc.d |
| 00:32.12 | mackay | UncleSkunk: sorry a bit of a joke, it's a very interesting window manager |
| 00:32.14 | dimir | UncleSkunk: I've got same crap, MX440. :-) |
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| 00:32.23 | foo | dimir: hmm, ok. |
| 00:32.24 | lnc | anyone here using 'webmin' ? |
| 00:32.33 | UncleSkunk | heh smaller then breadbox.. |
| 00:32.51 | lnc | ? |
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| 00:33.27 | dimir | UncleSkunk: running KDE and playing Q3 on it with the newest driver from NVidia, no problems, a lot of FPSes, all well. :-) |
| 00:34.05 | dimir | Debian testing that would be. |
| 00:34.05 | UncleSkunk | dimir: yeah, I tried getting nvidia-glx and some others and they removed x-window-system and x-window-system-core so when I tried to get those back all was broken |
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| 00:34.31 | dimir | UncleSkunk: forget about them, use glx from NVidia. |
| 00:34.36 | dimir | driver. |
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| 00:34.56 | dimir | UncleSkunk: all you need is kernel sources, the xserver-xorg and NVidia installer. |
| 00:35.13 | dimir | UncleSkunk: Nvidia will install it's glx extension lib. |
| 00:35.42 | lnc | anyone here using 'webmin' ? |
| 00:36.13 | Marudubshinki | abrotman: did you read my message? I said that w3m-el works perfectly on emacs-sanpshot, which I have installed. |
| 00:36.24 | dimir | UncleSkunk: just let the installer modify existing Xorg configuration and it will install the glx and everything. |
| 00:36.29 | Marudubshinki | and that there was an old bugreport even |
| 00:37.44 | UncleSkunk | dimir: aaah. righto will do. but wouldn't help if I could use a browser? |
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| 00:38.12 | dimir | UncleSkunk: how come? There is elinks. :-) |
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| 00:38.27 | dimir | I can give you a link. |
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| 00:39.27 | dimir | UncleSkunk: get it, make executable, run it. Make sure you have the kernel sources installed. |
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| 00:40.01 | chealer | dimir: why would kernel sources be needed? |
| 00:40.20 | dimir | chealer: to build the nvidia module. |
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| 00:40.31 | chealer | dimir: that's not a reason |
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| 00:40.50 | dimir | chealer: what? :-) |
| 00:41.05 | xevious | k3bsetup no worky |
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| 00:41.18 | UncleSkunk | ok be back sooner, unless I blow up then later |
| 00:41.23 | chealer | dimir: you don't need kernel sources to build the nvidia module. if you don't know how it works, just point to the guide |
| 00:41.24 | dimir | chealer: you nead to build a module for a specific kernel, installed on your system. |
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| 00:42.05 | chealer | dimir: not necessarily. there are most likely prebuilt modules |
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| 00:42.06 | xevious | anyone use k3b? |
| 00:42.19 | dimir | chealer: you don't need the sources in case nvidia installer has precompiled module for your installed kernel, otherwise it needs to build for your kernel. |
| 00:42.27 | chealer | xevious: no, it's only coded for fun |
| 00:42.38 | xevious | chealer: ah, interesting |
| 00:42.41 | dimir | chealer: never seen it take one for my Debian system. |
| 00:43.00 | chealer | dimir: oh course it won't. nvidia-installer isn't adapted to Debian |
| 00:43.06 | chealer | !tell dimir about nvidia-installer |
| 00:43.40 | dimir | chealer: and now tell me something I don't know. |
| 00:43.47 | xevious | chealer: i get a message when i start it that says cdrecord and cdrdao will be run without root privileges and has a button to start k3bsetup. when k3bsetup opens the window is completely empty except for a help, defaults, ok, apply, and cancel buttons |
| 00:43.57 | xevious | i'm a bit confused |
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| 00:44.09 | chealer | dimir: heh. please read the guide, there seems to be lots I could tell you about that |
| 00:44.40 | chealer | xevious: which release do you run? |
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| 00:45.02 | xevious | er, actually i forget what's on this system |
| 00:45.04 | xevious | lemme check |
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| 00:45.33 | xevious | cat: /etc/debian_version: No such file or directory |
| 00:45.35 | xevious | huh |
| 00:45.43 | xevious | oh |
| 00:45.44 | xevious | hah |
| 00:45.46 | xevious | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.51 | xevious | testing/unstable |
| 00:45.58 | xevious | dont drink and admin, guys |
| 00:46.06 | marx | truth |
| 00:46.28 | chealer | xevious: see #360378 |
| 00:47.24 | Stevie | don't drink and rm -rf |
| 00:47.36 | marx | D: |
| 00:47.44 | Stevie | better yet |
| 00:47.46 | Stevie | just don't drink |
| 00:47.53 | finn | don't drink and have to get up in 3.5 hours!! |
| 00:47.58 | marx | don't drink and drink |
| 00:48.06 | Stevie | The money you save can be used to buy another box on which to run Debian |
| 00:48.10 | Stevie | :) |
| 00:48.23 | finn | don't drink and * |
| 00:48.23 | chealer | in summary, don't do anything else than drinking? :) |
| 00:48.35 | dimir | ye. |
| 00:48.38 | finn | drinking on it's own is ok, as long as there's nothing else |
| 00:48.39 | dimir | That's corect. |
| 00:48.43 | dimir | correct too. |
| 00:48.44 | marx | sound good |
| 00:49.01 | Stevie | don't drink and screw |
| 00:49.01 | xevious | chealer: #360378 where? |
| 00:49.09 | chealer | !tell xevious about bts |
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| 00:49.13 | xevious | yay |
| 00:49.13 | Stevie | or you'll wake up in the morning next to such an ugly chick... |
| 00:49.13 | finn | why not Stevie ? |
| 00:49.21 | eeyore- | what's wrong with drinking? it's overdoing it that's the problem |
| 00:49.28 | finn | well.. the choice should be made before the drinking part |
| 00:49.44 | marx | everything in moderation |
| 00:49.46 | chealer | haha |
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| 00:50.03 | Stevie | the problem is that the choice doesn't normally happen until after you're drunk |
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| 00:52.09 | finn | that's why you should make a permanent choice beforehand in order to prevent random choice |
| 00:52.17 | chealer | xevious: sorry, 360378 is slightly different. #353826 is about your issue |
| 00:53.01 | finn | anyways.... anybody good with bluetooth & kernel 2.4.27 ?? |
| 00:53.14 | dimir | And master the art of drinking, when you get drunk but you still control yourself. |
| 00:53.41 | finn | I never do anything (other than vomit sometimes) which I regret whilst drinking |
| 00:53.42 | dimir | finn: you are not speaking as a true finn! |
| 00:53.53 | finn | I'm not _a_ finn, my name is finn |
| 00:54.02 | dimir | :-D |
| 00:54.07 | dandesousa | heh |
| 00:55.20 | finn | it's late... night |
| 00:55.35 | dimir | ye, 4 am here. |
| 00:55.44 | dimir | About to go to bed. |
| 00:55.45 | finn | 3 am here.. bye |
| 00:55.53 | dimir | nite! |
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| 00:57.56 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.06 | wmhtet | so where do I stand on the chart? |
| 00:58.18 | GT_Onizuka | Does it matter? |
| 00:58.29 | unix_infidel | chart? |
| 00:58.37 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.43 | abrotman | no it doesn't .. just ask |
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| 00:59.12 | marx | just learn as much as you possibly can |
| 00:59.13 | abrotman | dude .. just ask |
| 00:59.27 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Stop slacking you lazy bum!!! |
| 00:59.30 | abrotman | as long as you ask a well formed question .. noone will care |
| 00:59.42 | wmhtet | people only define newb beginner and geeek or expert, the middle is gray :D |
| 00:59.56 | abrotman | troll is another level |
| 01:00.00 | GT_Onizuka | Hah |
| 01:00.03 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.37 | dimir | :-D |
| 01:00.37 | daeos | with usermod, how would i change the username of a user ? usermod -l newname but where do i specify old name? |
| 01:01.11 | dimir | at the end |
| 01:01.22 | dimir | usermod -l new_login old_login |
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| 01:01.27 | daeos | thanks |
| 01:01.36 | dimir | np |
| 01:01.38 | UncleSkunk | I have a GUI!!! |
| 01:01.40 | unix_infidel | man i knew i should've opted for 16x12 LCD instead of 14x10 :( |
| 01:01.44 | dimir | UncleSkunk: \o/ |
| 01:01.56 | dimir | UncleSkunk: now install the NVidia driver! |
| 01:02.09 | UncleSkunk | Im so happy. no doubt, I shall |
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| 01:03.19 | UncleSkunk | dimir: I went and apt-get remove --purge x11-common and all its glory and reinstalled it |
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| 01:08.32 | wmhtet | unstable |
| 01:08.35 | draggor | I went to do an apt-get install wine and got the following: |
| 01:08.35 | draggor | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 01:08.35 | draggor | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
| 01:08.35 | draggor | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
| 01:08.35 | draggor | or been moved out of Incoming. |
| 01:08.36 | draggor | Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that |
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| 01:08.36 | wmhtet | etch |
| 01:08.51 | karsten-home | Where do I find the base install for etch using weekly install ISOs? |
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| 01:09.23 | abrotman | karsten-home: the netinst? |
| 01:09.41 | karsten-home | abrotman: No. But it still tries to fetch the base install over network. A bug. |
| 01:09.53 | abrotman | kill! |
| 01:09.58 | wmhtet | manpages-dev for unstable is broken |
| 01:09.59 | karsten-home | abrotman: ... it'll tell me in a few minutes, I'm trying to get it from this machine. |
| 01:10.10 | abrotman | erm .. ask #debian-boot ? |
| 01:10.19 | abrotman | karsten-home: or check the wiki |
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| 01:10.30 | karsten-home | abrotman: Feh. |
| 01:10.38 | karsten-home | abrotman: Somewhere on mirrors.kernel.org... |
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| 01:10.51 | abrotman | karsten-home: use a better mirror :) |
| 01:11.19 | karsten-home | abrotman: Suggest one. |
| 01:11.23 | abrotman | karsten-home: any |
| 01:11.30 | karsten-home | abrotman: I find ftp.debian.org is pretty bad. |
| 01:11.38 | abrotman | i've used psu.edu and pair.net with decent success |
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| 01:12.05 | drewp | how do i get a list of all the files (in /etc, for example) that i have modified from their installs? |
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| 01:12.35 | kevsthabes_sleep | hey guys,, does anyone know how i would go about unlocking a Harddrive within linux? i search quite a bit on google but havent been able to find out what i needed |
| 01:12.46 | abrotman | why is it locked? |
| 01:12.49 | Marudubshinki | locked how? |
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| 01:12.54 | marx | locked? |
| 01:13.07 | kevsthabes_sleep | security locked with a password (which i have) it used to be a xbox cd,, |
| 01:13.12 | kevsthabes_sleep | **hd even |
| 01:13.24 | gmh | after of apt-get ugrade in sid, the main gnome menu (2.14) disappear when I try to open, what can i do |
| 01:13.26 | abrotman | do you want what's on it ? |
| 01:13.31 | kevsthabes_sleep | nope |
| 01:13.37 | abrotman | fdisk it .. format it |
| 01:13.46 | kevsthabes_sleep | cant when its locked |
| 01:14.13 | kevsthabes_sleep | its a actual feature that comes with some harddrives.. if i dont have the password entered it wont even detect it or mount it |
| 01:14.24 | kevsthabes_sleep | it detects it actualyl. just cant do anything with it |
| 01:14.54 | abrotman | you can't fdisk it ? |
| 01:14.57 | kevsthabes_sleep | nope |
| 01:15.02 | abrotman | then it's garbage |
| 01:15.07 | abrotman | ask #hardware |
| 01:15.23 | kevsthabes_sleep | alright.. thanks anyways.. ( |
| 01:15.34 | drewp | kevsthabes_sleep: what code is reporting to you that it's locked? the ide driver? |
| 01:16.12 | unstable | yes wmhtet? |
| 01:16.40 | karsten-home | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 01:16.46 | abrotman | karsten-home: better? |
| 01:17.04 | karsten-home | abrotman: No. Just for the mirror suggestions. |
| 01:17.22 | abrotman | karsten-home: isn't it trying to get the base-install or whatever from the CD ? |
| 01:17.43 | kevsthabes_sleep | drewp : cant remember honestly.. i know you can use atapwd in freedos.. and i read something about having to insert the password into a file so at bootup it would unlock the drive,, but i couldnt find what file to insert it in |
| 01:17.56 | abrotman | so this is related to debian how? |
| 01:18.30 | kevsthabes_sleep | its related as in im running debian and i was wondering how you can unlock it thru debian:) |
| 01:18.33 | drewp | kevsthabes_sleep: it would help solve this if you could reproduce the "locked" error with some linux code. if this is just some flag that dos fdisk obeys, then i bet it's a non-problem |
| 01:18.50 | abrotman | or show dmesg output? |
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| 01:20.07 | karsten-home | abrotman: No, it's not. That's precisely the problem. |
| 01:20.28 | kevsthabes_sleep | well i'd have to reinstall the drive to do that.. |
| 01:20.28 | kevsthabes_sleep | http://www.xbox-linux.org/docs/hdpassword.html thats a detailed description of whats going on with the locked drive.. |
| 01:20.28 | kevsthabes_sleep | i'll just keep looking around till i find what i need,, thanks anyways guys |
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| 01:20.35 | karsten-home | abrotman: I d/l'd the etch/testing ISOs rather than Sarge, thinkng "hrm, I'll bypass an upgrade requirement". It's about 10h for a d/l here and now. |
| 01:21.03 | karsten-home | abrotman: .. and the full iso rather than netinst specifically to avoid the need for networking.] |
| 01:21.03 | karsten-home | abrotman: MacBook Pro install, BTW. |
| 01:21.26 | abrotman | karsten-home: did you read the macbook website? |
| 01:21.28 | abrotman | !macbook |
| 01:21.30 | abrotman | bah |
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| 01:23.10 | Thanatermesis | hum... strange colors after a upgrade of coreutils on ETCH, eh ? |
| 01:23.15 | karsten-home | abrotman: Where? |
| 01:23.36 | karsten-home | !macbook install |
| 01:23.36 | dpkg | well, macbook install is still under development but see: http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/HOWTO |
| 01:23.43 | karsten-home | abrotman: I wrote that ;-) |
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| 01:24.33 | karsten-home | dpkg: macbook is also now known to work under bootcamp, details still sparse. |
| 01:24.33 | dpkg | karsten-home: okay |
| 01:24.52 | chris__ | dimir: what were the Kernel things I needed? |
| 01:25.21 | abrotman | karsten-home: so make it work! |
| 01:25.31 | karsten-home | abrotman: :-) |
| 01:25.46 | karsten-home | abrotman: <mirror>/debian/dists/etch/Release BTW. |
| 01:26.08 | karsten-home | abrotman: ... which is !@#$%^&*( empty. |
| 01:26.45 | abrotman | karsten-home: did you ask the #debian-boot peoples? or check the netinst wiki? |
| 01:28.04 | karsten-home | abrotman: No response on #d-b |
| 01:28.04 | karsten-home | abrotman: ... just hit the wiki. |
| 01:28.04 | karsten-home | abrotman: ... also trying to lftp the release onto my thinkpad and walk through the install on the macbook. |
| 01:28.04 | karsten-home | abrotman: ... can only type with my two hands, two feet, and, um, nevermind. |
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| 01:28.21 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:28.24 | Thanatermesis | what is that ? |
| 01:28.37 | Thanatermesis | (changelog of coreutils) |
| 01:29.43 | magyar | i have a SCSI raid adapter and SATA controller, etch is using the sata drive as sda, how can i tell the kernel to use the scsi raid as sda? |
| 01:29.46 | insidius | OMG i hate my job |
| 01:30.00 | magyar | !sucks |
| 01:30.00 | dpkg | Blow me! |
| 01:30.50 | magyar | how can i get adaptec raid to load before onboard sata? |
| 01:31.06 | magyar | i cant boot my system SOS |
| 01:31.37 | abrotman | magyar: change the order the modules load |
| 01:32.00 | magyar | abrotman: in /etc/modules? |
| 01:32.06 | abrotman | magyar: wait .. you mean the system can't fidn grub .. or can't find / ? |
| 01:32.16 | magyar | cant find / |
| 01:32.25 | magyar | i get the "busybox" |
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| 01:32.44 | magyar | abrotman: if i disconnect the sata drive all is good |
| 01:33.03 | magyar | IT's A BUG |
| 01:33.10 | magyar | blehh |
| 01:33.27 | abrotman | no .. it's the user |
| 01:33.37 | magyar | -_- |
| 01:33.55 | magyar | ze problem und between ze keyboard and ze chair |
| 01:34.10 | abrotman | magyar: /etc/modutils/ |
| 01:34.23 | magyar | abrotman: whats there? |
| 01:34.47 | magyar | more files |
| 01:35.15 | abrotman | look in there |
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| 01:36.49 | foo | Hmm, anyway to browse my network, find a computer with a printer, and then add that printer to linux somehow? Or what is the best / easiest way to add a network printer to linux? |
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| 01:37.45 | daeos | how would i access windows computers on my home network? so i can do file transfers |
| 01:38.02 | Hamled | samba |
| 01:38.07 | daeos | samba i know for sure i need but how would i access the network drives? |
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| 01:38.29 | Arrowhead | hi all |
| 01:38.55 | Arrowhead | not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, but.....i recently upgraded my mplayer and now i can't get audio to work with it.... |
| 01:39.01 | DigitalStimulus | daeos: i use Konqueror/kio to access everything with smb:/ |
| 01:39.11 | Arrowhead | has anyone else seen this problem? |
| 01:39.15 | UncleSkunk1 | how do I check my linux version? |
| 01:39.18 | magyar | abrotman: i greped for aacraid and scsi_mod, which i see being loaded in lsmod, but nothing there |
| 01:39.19 | daeos | DigitalStimulus: im not using a GUI |
| 01:39.21 | Boukensya | hey guys, a dude who left this company setup snort to email him daily reports, how do I change the email address to mine? or remove it sending reports all together? Its not in crontab |
| 01:39.25 | DigitalStimulus | smbclient |
| 01:39.25 | Arrowhead | UncleSkunk1: uname -a |
| 01:39.31 | chealer | Arrowhead: it's not. ask #mplayer |
| 01:39.37 | UncleSkunk1 | thanks |
| 01:39.46 | DigitalStimulus | daeos: smbclient then or mount -t smbfs |
| 01:39.51 | Arrowhead | chealer: thx....is that still on irc.debian.org? |
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| 01:40.11 | m1ke_l | do i set my nic speed at boot in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 01:40.13 | chealer | Arrowhead: it should |
| 01:40.32 | Arrowhead | chealer: cool, thx |
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| 01:41.02 | abrotman | magyar: come on .. |
| 01:41.33 | DigitalStimulus | daeos: example: `mount -t smbfs -o uid=1000,username=administrator //host/share /mnt/samba` |
| 01:42.21 | Dwonis | m1ke_l: If you have to set it at all (it *should* normally auto-detect, I think), you could use a "pre-up" line to invoke mii-tool. (see man interfaces) |
| 01:42.36 | m1ke_l | but how to set at boot? |
| 01:42.39 | abrotman | m1ke_l: ethtool |
| 01:42.44 | m1ke_l | this is autoneg at 100/half |
| 01:42.49 | abrotman | daeos: smbclient |
| 01:42.51 | magyar | abrotman: am serious, what do i look for? |
| 01:43.06 | daeos | ok, and how can i view the networked computers near me? |
| 01:43.09 | abrotman | magyar: did you look in the files? |
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| 01:43.38 | abrotman | daeos: you're going to have to read some samba docs .. samba.org is a great place to start |
| 01:44.26 | Dwonis | daeos: there are a lot of apps that let you do various things with Samba. You could run "apt-cache search samba" |
| 01:44.26 | spanglesontoast | I just install blackbox |
| 01:44.33 | spanglesontoast | how would I start x11 up? |
| 01:44.44 | daeos | startx |
| 01:44.45 | m1ke_l | startx |
| 01:44.52 | daeos | beat you! |
| 01:44.53 | Dwonis | or possibly install gdm |
| 01:44.53 | abrotman | spanglesontoast: did you install x-window-system-core ? |
| 01:44.56 | spanglesontoast | yea but that didn't work |
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| 01:45.17 | spanglesontoast | guess not |
| 01:45.19 | spanglesontoast | :| |
| 01:45.26 | abrotman | !setup x |
| 01:45.26 | dpkg | it has been said that set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 01:45.31 | mins | In kernel 2.6, how can I change HZ values in include/asm-i386/param.h dynamically? |
| 01:46.01 | magyar | abrotman: i got 0keep, aliases, actions, path ,arch; but i dont see anything there about raid or scsi :( |
| 01:46.26 | abrotman | magyar: did you look in ANY of the files? |
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| 01:46.44 | magyar | abrotman: yeap |
| 01:46.48 | daeos | i tried installing an confgureing Webwin yesterday, and it kept telling me i had to install proc to update it from 1.8 to the current version, well i look for proc on the webmin site and anywhere on google, and it seems only the newest 2.24 version (or what ever the newest version is) is available, i wouldn't recommend webmin to ANYONE! |
| 01:46.57 | daeos | Webmin* |
| 01:46.58 | abrotman | magyar: and nothing is clicking? |
| 01:47.01 | Dwonis | why "JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer"? |
| 01:47.05 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 01:47.05 | dpkg | hmm... webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 01:47.22 | abrotman | Dwonis: because for those that don't need it .. it can royally make a mess |
| 01:47.51 | daeos | ok ! |
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| 01:48.59 | daeos | now.... time for samba |
| 01:49.39 | magyar | abrotman: am looking but so far nada |
| 01:49.40 | Dwonis | replacing webmin with samba... o_O |
| 01:49.43 | abrotman | when i say dance .. you best dance motherfucker! |
| 01:49.53 | Dwonis | !motherfucker |
| 01:49.55 | abrotman | magyar: use the actions file .. |
| 01:50.28 | daeos | !swat |
| 01:50.29 | dpkg | it has been said that swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 01:50.35 | abrotman | !msg the bot |
| 01:50.35 | dpkg | please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood |
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| 01:51.08 | daeos | man you people and the flood.... |
| 01:51.30 | dvs | daeos: we hate water |
| 01:51.34 | Dwonis | abrotman: yeah... the channel is *so* busy right now... ;p |
| 01:51.34 | daeos | haha |
| 01:51.59 | daeos | ok, so now i found something decent..... is swat worth using? |
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| 01:52.15 | abrotman | Dwonis: it is ? |
| 01:52.18 | daeos | i just need to see the network paths so i can use samba as i was told before how to use |
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| 01:52.58 | Dwonis | !tell abrotman -about sarcasm |
| 01:53.07 | abrotman | !SDNWOTN |
| 01:53.08 | dpkg | sdnwotn is, like, Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Net |
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| 01:53.17 | abrotman | flooder! |
| 01:53.17 | daeos | !abrotman |
| 01:53.18 | dpkg | i guess abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 01:53.44 | magyar | abrotman: is there a manpage, cause am clueless in what to put in that action file |
| 01:53.47 | dvs | abrotman has his own factoid? Damn! |
| 01:53.54 | daeos | HAHAH |
| 01:53.57 | abrotman | dvs: many people here do |
| 01:54.09 | dvs | !overfiend |
| 01:54.09 | dpkg | Do not bother he who maintains X, as he /uses/ the really nasty flame throwers.. (And you don't want to know where he can shove them if you /really/ piss him off), or he who killed kenny |
| 01:54.15 | dvs | doh! |
| 01:54.42 | abrotman | we should remove that "maintains X" thing |
| 01:54.45 | daeos | dang! |
| 01:54.56 | dvs | abrotman: he don't do that anymore? |
| 01:54.57 | daeos | lets put in uroski |
| 01:55.01 | daeos | urotski* |
| 01:55.08 | abrotman | dvs: not really .. it's mostly gravity and a few others now AFAIK |
| 01:55.25 | spanglesontoast | erm |
| 01:55.28 | daeos | ? |
| 01:55.31 | spanglesontoast | how do I reconfigure x |
| 01:55.39 | dvs | !drxx spanglesontoast |
| 01:55.39 | dpkg | spanglesontoast: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:55.51 | spanglesontoast | ty |
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| 01:56.35 | daeos | dvs: what would you say is the best way in console.... to mount a windows file system as a folder? |
| 01:56.43 | abrotman | smbclient |
| 01:56.57 | daeos | only smbclient? |
| 01:57.01 | daeos | nothing else? |
| 01:57.01 | dvs | daeos: in a console? I'd put it in /etc/fstab |
| 01:57.48 | abrotman | magyar: man modules.conf |
| 01:58.01 | abrotman | magyar: read the WHOLE thing |
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| 01:58.30 | daeos | dvs: ok, so i used smbclient to find the path |
| 01:58.32 | magyar | abrotman: on it |
| 01:58.35 | daeos | then mount it right? |
| 01:58.35 | Dwonis | abrotman: No manual entry for modules.conf |
| 01:58.53 | abrotman | Dwonis: man 5 modules.conf .. |
| 01:59.01 | dvs | daeos: sounds good to me |
| 01:59.04 | Dwonis | abrotman: No manual entry for modules.conf in section 5 |
| 01:59.12 | abrotman | Dwonis: why not? |
| 01:59.13 | unix_infidel | anyone know a good scientific / graphic calculator for *nix? |
| 01:59.19 | unix_infidel | preferably with a decent gui? |
| 01:59.27 | Dwonis | abrotman: I don't know. Do I need some -doc package? |
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| 01:59.43 | abrotman | let me look |
| 01:59.57 | Boukensya | hey guys, how do I adjust where the email that goes to root gets sent to? |
| 02:00.05 | abrotman | Dwonis: in the modutils package ? |
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| 02:00.24 | resiak | Boukensya: /etc/aliases ? |
| 02:00.25 | sparr | if i have access to an upstream bugzilla/etc, would it be appropriate to file non-debian-specific bugs against the debian packages as well? |
| 02:00.27 | abrotman | Boukensya: in your /etc/aliases .. and then you run newaliases |
| 02:00.29 | spanglesontoast | how do I setup blackbox to start when I type startx |
| 02:00.31 | Dwonis | abrotman: ah... modutils is deprecated for 2.6. I have module-init-tools |
| 02:00.47 | d03boy | I'm having some tk problems I think. I installed aMsn and it gave me this error. Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black" |
| 02:00.57 | abrotman | Dwonis: i have module-init-tools .. and this machien never had a 2.4 kernel |
| 02:01.07 | Boukensya | yeah I already updated that, but the other person continues to get the mail, do I have to restart a service or something? |
| 02:01.09 | dvs | lucky machine |
| 02:01.16 | abrotman | Dwonis: well .. magyar never said which kernel he had |
| 02:01.29 | Boukensya | aahhh newalias |
| 02:01.31 | spanglesontoast | or where there xinit is |
| 02:01.43 | abrotman | !xinitrc |
| 02:01.43 | dpkg | xinitrc is probably just use ~/.xsession, or (See entry for ".xinitrc"), or (See entry for "xsession") |
| 02:01.56 | abrotman | !tell spanglesontoast about xession |
| 02:02.07 | dvs | about what? |
| 02:02.09 | unix_infidel | anyone for my calculator question? |
| 02:02.19 | abrotman | unix_infidel: use graph paper! |
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| 02:02.33 | unix_infidel | abrotman: maybe for economics class. |
| 02:02.36 | unix_infidel | this is for real work. |
| 02:02.48 | abrotman | unix_infidel: apt-cache search graph calc |
| 02:02.59 | Dwonis | unix_infidel: You could dig up one of the HP 4[89] emulators... |
| 02:03.01 | spanglesontoast | hmm |
| 02:03.13 | unix_infidel | uhh, such a looong list ;( |
| 02:03.26 | Boukensya | thanks (: |
| 02:03.27 | spanglesontoast | what's the vnc name on debian |
| 02:03.29 | Dwonis | unix_infidel: apt-cache search graph calc | rl | head -5 |
| 02:03.35 | unix_infidel | Dwonis: :P |
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| 02:03.53 | abrotman | spanglesontoast: apt-cache search vn |
| 02:03.54 | abrotman | spanglesontoast: apt-cache search vnc |
| 02:04.01 | sagarp | are there any, er...debian posters :P |
| 02:04.12 | abrotman | cafepress.com might have some |
| 02:04.32 | sagarp | oh i forgot about cafepress..i'll loko there, thanks |
| 02:04.32 | abrotman | for special olympics ? |
| 02:04.40 | dvs | burn! |
| 02:04.46 | Red_Cloud | My distro is Etch. I am installing apcupsd and want to be sure that it is invoked upon boot. What system file would handle the invokation of apcupsd upon boot? |
| 02:05.12 | sussudio | my distro is etch. you have killed my father! prepare to die! |
| 02:05.25 | dvs | Red_Cloud: If installed properly, it starts on it's own. Use /etc/init.d/apcupsd status to make sure |
| 02:05.30 | Azar | ok I am in trouble here: for the past 3 days my router dies on me, I am not sure how could I check? eth0 logs or something |
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| 02:06.12 | daeos | dvs: i got this when connecting to my xp machine tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME |
| 02:06.20 | Azar | no way to diagnose disconnections? |
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| 02:06.31 | abrotman | Azar: is it a debian router? |
| 02:06.39 | Red_Cloud | dvs, thanks. I would suppose that it would start on its own as you say, but I just want to take a look-see to satisfy my anxieties. |
| 02:06.42 | magyar | abrotman: etch 2.6.15 |
| 02:06.46 | netdaemon | which debian cds do i need to get in order to have a base install with X...really dont want to burn all of those cds =\ |
| 02:06.53 | Azar | abrotman: no just a workstation connected to a router my ISP supplied |
| 02:07.00 | dandesousa | Is there a way to make an application start every time my server is restarted? |
| 02:07.13 | d03boy | how do I know what version of tk/tcl I have? |
| 02:07.16 | abrotman | magyar: well .. Dwonis says you're using module-init-tools |
| 02:07.22 | abrotman | d03boy: dpkg -l |
| 02:07.24 | Azar | abrotman: the Debian box is ok I suspect the ISP supplied router is dying |
| 02:07.44 | d03boy | abrotman, i dont know what the package is called |
| 02:07.52 | dvs | daeos: I'm not sure either. samba is quite a mystery to me. |
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| 02:08.09 | abrotman | d03boy: dpkg -l tk* ? |
| 02:08.10 | daeos | abrotman: do you know? |
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| 02:08.27 | abrotman | daeos: windows sucks ? |
| 02:08.31 | d03boy | how do I get tls installed? |
| 02:08.34 | daeos | abrotman: tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME |
| 02:08.39 | abrotman | Azar: so you're asking here about your non-debian router? |
| 02:08.54 | dvs | abrotman: agreed. ;-) |
| 02:09.04 | Azar | abrotman: I am looking to make sure is not the Debian box eth0 at fault |
| 02:09.05 | Dwonis | netdaemon: Probably just the first CD. Or, if you have a network connection, you could use the netinstall CD, which downloads what you need after you have chosen what you want. |
| 02:09.30 | abrotman | Azar: so check logs |
| 02:09.51 | netdaemon | Dwonis, not sure if i can use netinstall yet, as my cable may go down before i get the system ready to install on |
| 02:10.00 | netdaemon | i'll just get the first 2 though and see how that goes |
| 02:10.13 | resiak | !sarge cd contents |
| 02:10.14 | spanglesontoast | weird |
| 02:10.17 | resiak | !cd contents |
| 02:10.17 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 02:10.24 | spanglesontoast | I cannot seem to connect to vnc |
| 02:10.24 | foo | I am trying to add a network printer that is an hp officejet 6100 series ... and I am using localhost:631 to add the printer. I am on the step where I select the model (already selected HP) ... I see a bunch of HP models, but no officejet ones. What do I do? Hmm |
| 02:10.49 | Dwonis | foo: did you install hplip? |
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| 02:11.02 | foo | Dwonis: Nope, doing that now - thanks |
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| 02:11.55 | Azar | damn, faillog is all full of @@@@@@@ |
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| 02:12.15 | dvs | Azar: @_@ |
| 02:12.40 | Azar | dvs I can't see when and how often I get disconnected in the log |
| 02:12.45 | Red_Cloud | dvs, the information given by /etc/init.d/apcupsd status does not indicate whether it is invoked at boot. |
| 02:13.06 | dvs | Red_Cloud: But it does give you the status of the UPS? |
| 02:13.33 | Red_Cloud | yes the status is given with much additional information |
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| 02:13.51 | dvs | Red_Cloud: Then it's working. Otherwise, it would give you an error of some sort |
| 02:14.19 | dvs | Red_Cloud: Try "/etc/init.d/apcupsd stop; /etc/init.d/apcupsd status" and see what it says. |
| 02:14.27 | Dwonis | Red_Cloud: If there's a symlink for apcupsd in /etc/rc?.d (where ? is your runlevel, and is probably 2), then it starts at boot |
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| 02:14.50 | Dwonis | Red_Cloud: Also, apcaccess doesn't work unless apcupsd is running |
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| 02:15.03 | Red_Cloud | Dwonis & dvs, just a second |
| 02:15.17 | daeos | abrotman: so in honesty you don't know either? |
| 02:15.40 | abrotman | daeos: i would ask google .. but i suspect it's a security setting on the windows side |
| 02:15.47 | daeos | ah |
| 02:15.51 | daeos | sounds valid |
| 02:16.23 | karsten-home | !karsten |
| 02:16.24 | karsten-home | Feh. unregistered nick |
| 02:16.24 | dpkg | from memory, karsten is ladies, run for your lives! |
| 02:17.08 | abrotman | !karstensmite karsten |
| 02:17.10 | abrotman | hrm |
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| 02:18.16 | Red_Cloud | Dwonis the reference to /etc/re?.d is over my hear. I do not know how to determine my runlever of apcupsd. |
| 02:18.20 | daeos | man #samba is QUIET! |
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| 02:18.23 | bronze | all hail raseac |
| 02:18.30 | abrotman | that's why i suggested google |
| 02:18.35 | daeos | thanks |
| 02:18.44 | Red_Cloud | dvs, acpupsd stop does stop the software |
| 02:19.04 | dvs | Red_Cloud: So, it is running. |
| 02:19.04 | d03boy | how do I know if I have Xgl? I'm running testing |
| 02:19.14 | Red_Cloud | dvs yes it runs |
| 02:19.31 | Red_Cloud | and is configured for my ACP model |
| 02:19.33 | Dwonis | Red_Cloud: If /etc/rc2.d/S20apcupsd exists, it's being started at boot (or at least, it's *trying* to be started) |
| 02:19.36 | abrotman | d03boy: if you haven't done anything special .. you don't |
| 02:19.44 | d03boy | k |
| 02:19.54 | Dwonis | Red_Cloud: (note that /etc/rc2.d/S20apcupsd is a symlink that points to /etc/init.d/apcupsd) |
| 02:21.48 | Red_Cloud | Dwonis yes /etc/re2.d/S41apcupsd exists. |
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| 02:22.09 | dvs | Red_Cloud: What does "ls -l /etc/re2.d/S41apcupsd" say? |
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| 02:23.22 | abrotman | rc2.d |
| 02:23.29 | dvs | yeah, i know |
| 02:23.35 | abrotman | think he does? |
| 02:23.42 | dvs | probably not? ;-) |
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| 02:24.02 | spanglesontoast | is there any x based server monitoring |
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| 02:24.06 | spanglesontoast | I mean |
| 02:24.08 | Red_Cloud | dvs lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2006-03-12 17:22 /etc/rc2.d/S41apcupsd -> ../init.d/apcupsd are the permissions etc and such |
| 02:24.11 | spanglesontoast | like some kind of log viewer |
| 02:24.12 | spanglesontoast | but in x |
| 02:24.52 | Red_Cloud | Dwonis and dvs, thank you very much for your assist. I learned quite a lot just now. THANKS! |
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| 02:25.07 | norton | If I want to tell a configure script that some libraries is in a special dir, what is a common way to do that? |
| 02:27.11 | abrotman | dear intarweb, why do people use shitty things like flash to communicate useful data? |
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| 02:29.47 | UncleSkunk | abrotman: werrrrd, totally agree |
| 02:30.08 | scarynetworkguy | Dear abrotman, Becuase god hates you. Love, interweb. |
| 02:30.14 | Ecnassianer | I'm adding a link in /dev called cdrom (aka /dev/cdrom) and it's linking to /dev/hdc should I use a soft or a hard link? |
| 02:30.27 | dvs | Ecnassianer: soft |
| 02:30.31 | Ecnassianer | thanks |
| 02:30.38 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: that's a forgery .. intarweb would never sign interweb!@ |
| 02:30.42 | dandesousa | g'night |
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| 02:30.57 | scarynetworkguy | Damn. Foiled again! |
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| 02:32.09 | dvs | dingo: you ate my baby! GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! |
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| 02:32.25 | somedude | is debian teh best |
| 02:32.41 | dvs | somedude: No, it's THE best. |
| 02:32.44 | dvs | ;-) |
| 02:32.48 | somedude | awesome |
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| 02:33.05 | dvs | that was easy |
| 02:33.13 | UncleSkunk | lol |
| 02:33.19 | abrotman | !lol |
| 02:33.19 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 02:33.27 | dvs | heh |
| 02:33.28 | UncleSkunk | nein! |
| 02:33.53 | spanglesontoast | hmm |
| 02:33.57 | marx | !wtf |
| 02:34.03 | spanglesontoast | where can I get colortail |
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| 02:40.04 | songo | howto make the system recognize '.MP3' (in caps) files as '.mp3' files? |
| 02:40.36 | sparr | what system, recognize for what, how? |
| 02:40.38 | abrotman | try the rename program |
| 02:40.58 | abrotman | songo: in konqueror? nautilus? |
| 02:41.25 | abrotman | songo: maybe edit /etc/mime.types ? |
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| 02:41.36 | Robbie_Syd | whats a trawl? |
| 02:41.53 | abrotman | in debian? |
| 02:42.00 | Robbie_Syd | no, in irc |
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| 02:42.10 | abrotman | you mean a troll ? |
| 02:42.12 | songo | in Xfmedia |
| 02:42.13 | dvs | Robbie_Syd: you mean a "troll"? |
| 02:42.14 | Robbie_Syd | no a trawl |
| 02:42.24 | simonrvn | !dict trawl |
| 02:42.24 | Robbie_Syd | i know what a troll is |
| 02:42.25 | abrotman | it's not related to debian |
| 02:42.26 | dpkg | Dictionary 'trawl' (3 of 6): . Trawl \Trawl\, n. 1. A fishing line, often extending a mile or more, having many short lines bearing hooks attached to it. It is used for catching cod, halibut, etc.; a boulter. [U. S. & Canada] ;; a conical fishnet dragged through the water at great depths ;; a long fishing line with many shorter lines and hooks attached to it (usually suspended between buoys). |
| 02:42.30 | dvs | A Sountern American troll? |
| 02:42.34 | Robbie_Syd | lol |
| 02:43.17 | parsonsd | when the doc (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ch-ctsystem.en.html) says to select Desktop from the Gnome Control Center, what does it mean? I find *nothing* in that panel with that name. |
| 02:43.26 | tnks | Hi. I'm trying to understand fontconfig better. I think it's related to something I'm trying to mess with. Maybe someone has some good advice. |
| 02:43.27 | StereoSkit | dudes, anyone knows why there is not django for unstable? |
| 02:43.34 | abrotman | parsonsd: what are you actually trying to do ? |
| 02:43.42 | daeos | abrotman: got it!! |
| 02:43.55 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:44.09 | parsonsd | what i am trying to do is to change window managers, so i go to the manual there and it gives, er, unhelpful advice |
| 02:44.09 | daeos | abrotman: PaulWay[w] at #samba helped me |
| 02:44.14 | tnks | Basically, Eclipse has some fonts that are set to the "System defaults". I think this gets down to how Java specifies it's default fonts. Which I think is done with fontconfig. |
| 02:44.39 | abrotman | daeos: lucky you :) |
| 02:44.44 | parsonsd | abrotman, change window managers -- thought the doc providing a way to do it without quiting the gdm session was a nice touch |
| 02:44.47 | abrotman | parsonsd: from what to what ? |
| 02:44.56 | tnks | But I'm having a hard time piecing together what to do between the Eclipse docs, the Java docs, and the fontconfig docs. |
| 02:45.40 | parsonsd | abrotman, ah - i installed enlightment yesterday and thought i would give it a try. what i have now is the default gnome, sawfish, er,...i think meta city |
| 02:45.47 | parsonsd | abrotman, not sawfish. |
| 02:45.56 | abrotman | parsonsd: from what to what :) |
| 02:46.27 | simonrvn | !ping |
| 02:46.27 | dpkg | pong |
| 02:46.31 | simonrvn | ok |
| 02:46.37 | parsonsd | abrotman, er, metacity to e? did i say something funny :/ ? |
| 02:46.42 | marx | !pong |
| 02:46.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, pong is the best name on IRC eg. /ping pong, or *the* classic video game |
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| 02:46.53 | abrotman | parsonsd: i doubt gnome will let you switch to E .. |
| 02:46.57 | abrotman | !tell parsonsd about xsession |
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| 02:47.12 | parsonsd | abrotman -- *sigh*....thanks |
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| 02:48.33 | singamayya | how can i configure gpg-agent so that it only asks my password once during the entire time i'm logged in? |
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| 02:49.08 | sparr | singamayya: poorly |
| 02:49.14 | jackie2234 | hello, i have some troubles by installing debian sarge 3.1 from netinstall cd... after reboot it stops at usb... |
| 02:49.28 | singamayya | sparr: hmm.. so it's impossible? |
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| 02:49.33 | dabaR | I have an iBook G4 with a bluetooth module. I would like to turn off the bluetooth capability of my computer. How would I do it? |
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| 02:49.51 | stew | dabaR: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 02:50.41 | dabaR | So my module is called bluetooth? |
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| 02:50.56 | dabaR | There is one like that in lsmod |
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| 02:51.14 | hedpe | how can i do a "nm" on my linux kernel to check for specific support was built in? where is the image that i can run nm on? |
| 02:51.32 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.33 | Red_Cloud | Unable to create UPS lock file. |
| 02:51.33 | stew | dabaR: yes |
| 02:51.55 | daeos | Philisophical Question of the Day: |
| 02:51.57 | daeos | When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet, and when toast is dropped, it always lands with the buttered side facing down. If you strap buttered toast to the back of a cat; will the two will hover, spinning inches above the ground? |
| 02:52.14 | dvs | hahhahahahahah |
| 02:52.43 | Red_Cloud | Whenever I do go stop apcupsd I get the error message: start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 9897: No such proce |
| 02:52.59 | Red_Cloud | dvs, that was also my response! |
| 02:53.07 | dabaR | well, stew, thank you very much. That is very good to know. |
| 02:53.17 | parsonsd | abrotman - i don't think that dpkg really answered my question, but the link provided seems to be readable. my initial grouch still stands, tho -- the doc tells me to go click on things that i cannot find. |
| 02:53.31 | abrotman | parsonsd: are you running etch/sid ? |
| 02:53.43 | abrotman | parsonsd: (alternately ... file a bug on the docs) |
| 02:53.46 | lekvar | I need a little help on managing modules. Unwanted modules load on boot, so I added them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist... but they still load anyway |
| 02:53.47 | Red_Cloud | daeos, no the cat will just lie on his buttered side |
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| 02:54.03 | abrotman | !whoppix |
| 02:54.04 | dpkg | somebody said whoppix was the old name for WHAX (http://www.iwhax.net), a stand alone penetration testing live cd based on SLAX based on Slackware |
| 02:54.04 | daeos | hehe |
| 02:54.14 | parsonsd | abrotman, er, no, i think i am not. i am running stable (which is etch/sid?) |
| 02:54.32 | abrotman | parsonsd: etch is currently testing .. sid is always unstable |
| 02:54.36 | gnufan | hedpe: not sure -- the executable is /vmlinuz or where it points to, but kernels are messy. Does it support the /proc/config.gz interface, might be easier |
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| 02:54.58 | UncleSkunk | sid always unstable? |
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| 02:55.09 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:55.25 | lekvar | IS it bad that my system currently has modult-init-tools AND modutils maybe? |
| 02:55.30 | stew | lekvar: what version of debian are you running? |
| 02:55.42 | quenoz | hi, encountered this error while upgrading: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 02:55.50 | quenoz | could the package be the problem? |
| 02:55.56 | abrotman | lekvar: i apparently have both |
| 02:55.58 | lekvar | stew: unstable. 2.6.16-1-686 kernel |
| 02:56.25 | parsonsd | where am i to find the version of debian i use? ( i *know* that i've asked this question at least 3 times before) |
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| 02:56.35 | lekvar | huh |
| 02:56.42 | cheal | quenoz: there is probably a more relevant message than that |
| 02:56.49 | abrotman | parsonsd: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 02:57.20 | quenoz | cheal: you are right. the additional msg: trying to overwrite `/usr/include/X11', which is also in package libxft-dev |
| 02:57.22 | quenoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.24 | cheal | !tell parsonsd about which version of debian |
| 02:57.29 | stew | lekvar: the modules aren't listed in /etc/modules, are they? |
| 02:57.34 | UncleSkunk | sources.list is a good indication |
| 02:57.36 | lekvar | nope |
| 02:58.01 | Red_Cloud | dvs, how do I exchange the /var/lock with the pid=8880 for the apcupsd /var/lock with the pid=9897? |
| 02:58.19 | jackie2234 | hello, my netinstall doesn't work (debian sarge 3.1) after reboot the system stops at usb... can anyone help me? |
| 02:58.45 | cheal | !tell quenoz about x11-common conflict |
| 02:59.12 | cheal | jackie2234: with which Linux version? |
| 02:59.32 | lekvar | rebooting to try something |
| 02:59.43 | jackie2234 | cheal: with debian sarge 3.1 |
| 02:59.51 | cheal | jackie2234: that's your Debian version |
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| 03:00.16 | parsonsd | cheal, abrotman -- thanks -- seems that there should be a better way to know these things, but i'll accept it as the way it is. |
| 03:00.18 | Memphis | hola |
| 03:00.23 | Memphis | Buenas Noches |
| 03:00.24 | Memphis | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.30 | Memphis | alguein para conversar |
| 03:00.46 | Red_Cloud | I can open up the /var/lock/lck.ttyS0 to edit, but I get the message that it is a binary file and if I save it after changes it will be corrupted. Should I chance it and put the correct number in the file? |
| 03:00.52 | cheal | parsonsd: hehe. $ cat /etc/debian_version; is sometimes imprecise. |
| 03:01.02 | cheal | !tell Memphis about es |
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| 03:01.39 | jackie2234 | cheal: and how can I find out what's my linux version... I'm brand new with linux... |
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| 03:01.50 | parsonsd | jackie2234 -- uname -a |
| 03:01.50 | stew | jackie2234: uname -r |
| 03:02.13 | myboxen | evening all, are there any free perl based pastebin tools for hosting your own pastebin? |
| 03:02.22 | lekvar | sonofa*****... |
| 03:02.24 | parsonsd | cheal -- i have no idea what it was that abrotman told me to do |
| 03:02.40 | cheal | parsonsd: yeah |
| 03:02.42 | Azar | this mighty sucks, having disconnections every 2 hours |
| 03:02.47 | lekvar | this is silly i'm sure i've made this work on other debian installs |
| 03:02.50 | foo | I am trying to install a network printer that is on a windows machine. It is an HP Officejet 6100 series. I am in localhost:631 but I can't seem to find an officejet printer model. Any ideas> |
| 03:02.55 | foo | ? |
| 03:03.00 | unity | hello, does anyone know how to specify what the root directory for a tar should be? tar cvvzf gaim.logs.04-09-06.tar.gz ~/.gaim/logs/ gives me a tar with a root directory of / with home in it, and under home, there is unity, and under that, there is .gaim, etc. |
| 03:03.27 | stew | lekvar: if you really need to blacklist a module, you can just rename the .ko file in /lib/modules/$(uanme -r), that is sure to keep them from loading |
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| 03:03.37 | parsonsd | cheal -- i ran the cmd, and i got a version of libc6. eack |
| 03:03.43 | jackie2234 | cheal: 2.6.9-22.EL |
| 03:04.20 | parsonsd | unity: i think you did with ~/.gaim/logs/ -- start in the bottom-most directory that you want to have in the tar |
| 03:04.20 | stew | jackie2234: that's not a debian kernel |
| 03:04.24 | quenoz | cheal: tried the command. same error. that command is supposed to rm xfree86-common and install x11-common. |
| 03:04.24 | cheal | jackie2234: sorry, I missed your previous question. on which machine are you running that kernel :? |
| 03:04.26 | lekvar | nah something's up. i'm just trying various recipes for making the recalictrant sound system work on my laptop... they're pretty straightforward "block the wrong module by adding these lines to */blacklist" etc |
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| 03:04.39 | parsonsd | unity: '~' got expanded |
| 03:04.47 | quenoz | The complete msg is: Package xfree86-common is not installed, so not removed |
| 03:04.48 | quenoz | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 03:04.50 | quenoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.51 | quenoz | 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 221 not upgraded. |
| 03:04.53 | quenoz | 25 not fully installed or removed. |
| 03:04.56 | UncleSkunk | when I do "top" it shows 2 xmms's running and one has "<defunct>" next to it.. also xmms wont play music. any ideas? |
| 03:05.01 | cheal | parsonsd: bah, the suggestion was incomplete...it's always better to use factoids anyway :) |
| 03:05.13 | chrisadatl23 | When someone has some time, would thye mind helping me out on a linux problem? |
| 03:05.15 | lekvar | But... they seem to assume there's going to be an /etc/modprobe.d/sound file, and there isn't... maybe I'm missing some sound related packagation... |
| 03:05.16 | quenoz | cheal: Package xfree86-common is not installed, so not removed |
| 03:05.18 | quenoz | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 03:05.19 | parsonsd | cheal, i suppose, if i could remember them all |
| 03:05.20 | quenoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.21 | quenoz | 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 221 not upgraded. |
| 03:05.22 | quenoz | 25 not fully installed or removed. |
| 03:05.26 | cheal | quenoz: which release do you run |
| 03:05.27 | jackie2234 | at the moment i use centos with the linux version I wrote... but I like to change to debian, but there are the problems I told... |
| 03:05.34 | lekvar | What's a good baseline package to get enough alsa stuff in to at least work on this? |
| 03:05.43 | gnufan | chrisadatl23: change directory to where you want to start - tar even has an option to do it for you. |
| 03:05.44 | cheal | quenoz: don't paste too much here |
| 03:06.04 | unity | parsonsd: ok thx |
| 03:06.12 | lekvar | *shopping for a better computer damit* |
| 03:06.15 | gnufan | chrisadatl23: oops mistell |
| 03:06.22 | chrisadatl23 | well you were close |
| 03:06.23 | cheal | jackie2234: the question I asked was about the Linux version you were using to install Debian (it can be either 2.4 or 2.6). the default is 2.4 |
| 03:06.24 | chrisadatl23 | as heck |
| 03:06.31 | quenoz | cheal: sorry about the pasting. by release u mean 'testing', that is what i am using. |
| 03:06.40 | cheal | quenoz: yes |
| 03:06.45 | cheal | !tell quenoz about u |
| 03:06.53 | jackie2234 | cheal: 2.6 |
| 03:06.54 | Red_Cloud | General question: I need to change the content of a file located at /var/lock/lck.ttyS0. Whenever I open the file I get the warning message that the file is a binary and saving it will result in a corrupt file. Should I chance it or is there a way to edit a binary without corrupting it? |
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| 03:07.02 | quenoz | cheal: it is 'testing' for me. |
| 03:07.04 | cheal | jackie2234: ok, did you try with 2.4? |
| 03:07.08 | gnufan | chrisadatl23: Well it is easrly here -- don't ask to ask -- just ask your question |
| 03:07.22 | chrisadatl23 | ok here goes |
| 03:07.30 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: don't edit lock files -- what are you trying to achieve |
| 03:07.34 | jackie2234 | cheal: yes, I tried both |
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| 03:08.15 | Red_Cloud | The software that uses the file needs a pid=9897 but the existing pid=8880 |
| 03:08.28 | cheal | jackie2234: I suppose you are installing this on a personal computer? |
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| 03:08.54 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, should I uninstall my package and re-install? |
| 03:09.22 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: for goodness sake you are obsessed with detail. Something has the file locked -- what software has it locked, what are you installing, and what do you hope to achieve? |
| 03:09.24 | cheal | quenoz: check if #358536 has clues |
| 03:10.23 | quenoz | cheal: search the web with the #? |
| 03:10.31 | chrisadatl23 | i tried whoppix live cd.. installed it.. using it now, tried to install firefox, got the tarball, unzipped it, now i have bunch of files, do i make an "install" or do i move the files to the directory that i want them and creat a shortcut to a file in the directory to run the program? |
| 03:10.38 | cheal | !tell quenoz about bts |
| 03:10.40 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, I am installing apcupsd and it needs the lock file to operate. The message that apcupsd gives me is that the pid is wrong and supplies me with the pid that is needed to use the lock. |
| 03:10.41 | jackie2234 | cheal: I tried to install this to my laptop |
| 03:10.49 | cheal | quenoz: which libxft-dev version do you have? |
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| 03:11.13 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: well what is process 8880? |
| 03:11.13 | quenoz | cheal: let me check on it. |
| 03:11.55 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, I do not know and do not know how to determine the process. |
| 03:12.12 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: "ps -ef | grep 8880" |
| 03:12.40 | cheal | jackie2234: OK. did you consider trying Debian Etch/testing? it's not a great solution to just suggest you to use a less stable release assuming it will magically fix the problem, but it may be an option anyway. otherwise maybe you should describe the failure better |
| 03:13.17 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, the result: root 8880 1 0 19:28 ? 00:00:00 /sbin/apcupsd Now I am thoroughly confused. Maybe |
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| 03:14.20 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, also root 30956 8842 0 21:12 pts/1 00:00:00 grep 8880 |
| 03:14.51 | gnufan | Red_Cloud: sounds like it is already running -- if you installed it recently it probably started after installation. The grep line is just because the "grep 8880" command spawns a process to run, so it sees itself in the listing. |
| 03:14.52 | lekvar | Ideas? "bplay /usr/share/wmbubble/wak.wav" -> "bplay: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory" grr |
| 03:15.16 | stew | lekvar: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 03:15.33 | quenoz | cheal: how to know the version? i thought dpkg --version <package> would give it to me. |
| 03:15.37 | lekvar | stew: same thing |
| 03:15.48 | cheal | quenoz: $ dpkg -l libxft-dev |
| 03:15.50 | Red_Cloud | gnufan, then I'll quit worrying myself about it. Thanks for your help and education. |
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| 03:16.21 | stew | lekvar: do you run udev? |
| 03:16.35 | FarrisG | How do I specify my resolv.conf info and keep it from being automatically updated? |
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| 03:17.08 | quenoz | cheal: it is: libxft-dev 2.1.8.2-3 |
| 03:17.10 | gnufan | !tell lekvar about /dev/dsp |
| 03:17.13 | stew | FarrisG: man dhclient.conf |
| 03:17.37 | cheal | quenoz: try to start by upgrading it |
| 03:17.39 | jackie2234 | cheal: ok, so I'll shopw you my last lines (when it stops): Code: 8b 53 24 31 ff 83 7a 08 00 75 0d 66 83 a0 16 02 00 00 fb e9 |
| 03:17.39 | jackie2234 | /etc/rcS.d/S36discover: line 204: 1024 Segmentation fault modprobe $MODUL |
| 03:17.39 | jackie2234 | E |
| 03:17.39 | jackie2234 | Loading uhci_hcd module. |
| 03:17.39 | jackie2234 | <6>usbcore: registered new driver usbfs |
| 03:17.39 | lekvar | stew: sure looks that way |
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| 03:18.16 | lekvar | stew: Seems to come with upgrading into the late 2.6 kernels in unstable |
| 03:18.35 | stew | lekvar: it comes if you use initramfs-tools to build your initrds |
| 03:18.40 | quenoz | cheal: you mean 'apt-get upgrade libxft-dev'? |
| 03:18.56 | cheal | quenoz: # apt-get install libxft-dev |
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| 03:19.19 | stew | lekvar: if you have a sound driver loaded and snd-pcm-oss, then udev should be creating /dev/dsp, maybe try udevsynthesize |
| 03:19.22 | rage | Hey, I'm new the bug tracking system, is there a way I can get an email when: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358331 is resolved? |
| 03:19.25 | FarrisG | stew: I've already gone through that manpage, and see nothing regarding resolver params. Only updating DNS records dynamically, and that's not what I want. I want to tell my system to ONLY use the name server and search order I specify? |
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| 03:20.16 | UncleSkunk | anyone have a TV tuner card? |
| 03:20.27 | Agrajag- | UncleSkunk: yes, a few |
| 03:21.07 | stew | FarrisG: its in there, search for name-server in that manpage, or use the resolvconf pacakge |
| 03:21.12 | UncleSkunk | which kind or which one? I want to get one but don't want to get one that will be a pain to get working |
| 03:21.13 | gnufan | FarrisG if it updates automatically it is because you are running DHCP -- you can tell DHCP not to update the resolv.conf when doing the DHCP, I think it is in the dhcp client /usr/share/doc/ documentation, you edit the client config file /etc/dhcp<mumble>/dhcp<mumble>client.conf or similar. |
| 03:21.20 | lekvar | stew: On this model laptop, linux incorectly identifies the sound chips. I think I'm trying to make it set up the right one instead. |
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| 03:21.33 | jackieJJ | cheal: have you seen my code lines? |
| 03:21.35 | stew | lekvar: try update-pciids |
| 03:21.49 | Agrajag- | UncleSkunk: depends what kind of tv you want. the mythtv-users archive and docs provide heaps of information |
| 03:21.56 | cheal | jackieJJ: yes. that's the kind of stuff Google will love |
| 03:21.56 | Agrajag- | s/want/watch |
| 03:22.16 | UncleSkunk | Agrajag-: thanks I'll go look into that |
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| 03:22.57 | jackieJJ | cheal: so these lines doesn't help to find the mistake? |
| 03:23.12 | cheal | jackieJJ: sure. use Google |
| 03:23.13 | gnufan | FarrisG: alternatively you can ask it to put your resolv.conf back when dhcp is done, which is usually the "right thing", is this for dial-up? |
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| 03:24.31 | FarrisG | gnufan: No, I've got a user who's temporarily VPN'd from a vendor site, and his local dhcp keeps screwing up his DNS. He's tunnelled properly, but name resolution is working for him because of the local problem. If I can configure his system to send all dns requests through the NS on the other end of the tunnel, he'll be fine |
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| 03:26.58 | quenoz | cheal: installing latest version of libxft-dev does indeed solve my problem. when i upgrade again, all packages were unpacked without problem. thks a lot. |
| 03:27.23 | Azar | cool a DNS tutorial ! :) |
| 03:27.35 | cheal | quenoz: thank the BTS :) |
| 03:27.55 | quenoz | cheal: yeh, thks to BTS to. got to quit to re-boot. bye. |
| 03:28.27 | Azar | tho, it is not fixing my issue with disconnects.. |
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| 03:34.20 | FarrisG | This isn't quite working. Alternatively, is it possible to generate an /etc/hosts files from all existing DNS records on a bind server? |
| 03:34.30 | Azar | what BIND version is Sarge using? |
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| 03:35.18 | Azar | azeem :) |
| 03:35.45 | Azar | jeez Ihave to google for that too |
| 03:35.51 | gnufan | Azar: 9.2.4 |
| 03:35.59 | Azar | thank you gnufan :) |
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| 03:37.59 | Azar | woohoo dig is so cool |
| 03:38.50 | gnufan | FarrisG: you could make the host file, but I suspect that you can make things work correctly, which is probably more reliable long term, like when you alter the local DNS zone files. |
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| 03:39.48 | gnufan | Azar: what are you up to? |
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| 03:41.24 | gnufan | Azar: dig is cool -- how do you think I got the bind version number from sarge so quick, I don't run Sarge at home ;) |
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| 03:43.46 | FarrisG | gnufan: Okeedoke. I'm diggint through man pages, but I've found no help so far. Is there some option to tell dhclient just not to touch resolv.conf at all? |
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| 03:44.34 | jimb0 | whats the command to clear console command history |
| 03:44.36 | jimb0 | ??? |
| 03:44.45 | stew | FarrisG: you can "supercede" the resolv.conf settings in dhclient.conf |
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| 03:45.15 | FarrisG | stew: From what I'm reading, I actually have to redefine the make_resolv_conf function in the enter-hooks for dhclient-script |
| 03:45.29 | stew | FarrisG: why won't supercede work? |
| 03:45.39 | Azar | gnufan, I am trying to find out why I falied so lamentably when I tried to set up my own server , so I found a supercool tutorial here: http://www.howtoforge.com/traditional_dns_howto |
| 03:46.04 | stew | err supersede |
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| 03:47.33 | FarrisG | stew: would I need to supersed "search" and "name-server"? |
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| 03:48.17 | stew | FarrisG: yeah |
| 03:48.37 | ceplma | jimb0: history -c |
| 03:49.17 | FarrisG | stew: So, "supersede search, nameserver" would suffice? Or would I have to do "supersede search <DOMAIN>, nameserver <ADDRESS>"? |
| 03:50.19 | stew | FarrisG: the format is in the manpage |
| 03:50.44 | gnufan | FarrisG: the syntax is probably separate lines, supersede domain-name-server "a.b.c.d s.t.u.v"; |
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| 03:51.05 | Boukensya | hey guys, just wondering where the option in proftpd was that allowed root logins? what file? |
| 03:51.42 | cafuego | Boukensya: /etc/ftpusers |
| 03:51.47 | Boukensya | thanks (: |
| 03:51.53 | cafuego | Boukensya: STILL a BAD idea though |
| 03:51.55 | gnufan | Boukensya: I hear didn't rumblings - a voice saying "I'm sorry, I don't think you want to do that". |
| 03:52.20 | Boukensya | why not? its on our intranet |
| 03:52.27 | Boukensya | its completely external from the internet |
| 03:52.40 | cafuego | accidental deletion? |
| 03:53.00 | Boukensya | no one is actually gonna log into it, just the camera we have to upload photos |
| 03:53.04 | cafuego | are you sure no intranet users are snooping for passwords? |
| 03:53.19 | ceplma | Boukensya: why in the world camera needs to be root? |
| 03:53.29 | Boukensya | it doesn't matter if the itranet users are, as they all have the username and password anyway |
| 03:53.30 | cafuego | Boukensya: dude, fix the perms on the destination and ftp as normal user <heh> |
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| 03:53.48 | ceplma | (and are you sure that some bug in the camera won't do rm -rf or its equivalent?) |
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| 03:53.54 | cafuego | There is inly one way in which you can create good habits. |
| 03:54.07 | Boukensya | yeah, well I may as do it properly anyway |
| 03:54.31 | ceplma | cafuego: you mean something like cd /tmp; rm -rf .. ? :-) |
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| 03:54.58 | gnufan | Boukensya: you also need AllowRootLogin as well as removing root from /etc/ftpusers, you get the feeling the authors were hinting ? ;) |
| 03:55.50 | Boukensya | hehe yeah, I will just do it properly |
| 03:55.51 | Boukensya | (: |
| 03:55.54 | rage | Hey, I'm new the bug tracking system, is there a way I can get an email when: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358331 is resolved? |
| 03:56.25 | cafuego | rage: You should be able to subscribe to tre bug |
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| 03:57.31 | rage | That will get me all the bugs for every package though wont it? |
| 03:57.31 | ceplma | yeah, send email to 358331-subscribe@bugs.debian.org |
| 03:57.36 | rage | ahh. okay |
| 03:57.48 | rage | Excellent :-) |
| 03:58.03 | cafuego | keep in mind that spam harvesters DO search the debian bug db for email addresses. |
| 03:58.36 | rage | I get around 1000 spam messages a day, drop in the ocean |
| 03:58.40 | ceplma | (and have some throwaway address -- think yahoo.com, or something like that -- handy) |
| 03:59.01 | stew | i don't think subscribing to a bug makes your address public though |
| 03:59.36 | ceplma | I am afraid it show on the page (not sure) |
| 03:59.50 | ceplma | s/show/shows/ |
| 04:00.01 | stew | ceplma: it doesn't |
| 04:00.05 | rage | Doesnt matter much either way |
| 04:00.23 | ceplma | stew: then no problem |
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| 04:00.49 | bpenn | #debian |
| 04:01.00 | rage | My email has alias for admin,webmaster,support and accounts @mydomain |
| 04:01.20 | rage | So I get a lot of bots taking pot luck and emailing webmaster |
| 04:01.55 | bpenn | Is there a better place to ask about HPPA installs? |
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| 04:04.26 | cafuego | multiply that by 200 domains, and you see how much spam I get. Still, any way of making sure I get less is good. |
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| 04:08.20 | bpenn | Can anyone help me recover/recreate my ramdisk img? |
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| 04:09.03 | bpenn | Long story short, I think I was hacked and they deleted my initrd.img and the associated link |
| 04:10.24 | bpenn | This is all on an HPPA install. |
| 04:11.04 | bpenn | Okay... lively bunch... I guess I go to linuxquestions.org instead. |
| 04:11.30 | casidgcoi | where i find a front-end for gcc ? gcc for X |
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| 04:14.41 | michael117 | Anyone here familiar with lighttpd? |
| 04:15.31 | spoon | anyone know where I can find good Debian documentation for a noob like myself, who has used Suse linux for a few months, but realy havn't touched the command line other than to mount drives list files and a few other very basic functions? |
| 04:16.18 | Coweater | casidgcoi: looking for a development environment? |
| 04:16.37 | casidgcoi | Coweater yes |
| 04:17.55 | Coweater | there's anjuta |
| 04:18.50 | cheal | casidgcoi: which session manager do you use? |
| 04:18.52 | Coweater | kdevelop |
| 04:19.01 | casidgcoi | cheal gnome |
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| 04:19.14 | cheal | casidgcoi: OK, I don't know |
| 04:19.44 | casidgcoi | cheal ok thanks |
| 04:19.52 | ryannnnnnnnnnn | dude u here????????/ |
| 04:19.53 | Coweater | spoon: http://www.debian.org/doc/ |
| 04:20.22 | Agrajag- | casidgcoi: bash works pretty well |
| 04:21.08 | casidgcoi | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:23.04 | casidgcoi | I go to make a front-end one of the GCC using Xdialog |
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| 04:26.16 | casidgcoi | touch Xgcc ; echo "Xdialog --msg "$(gcc $1 -o program)"" > Xgcc ; chmod +x Xgcc ; ./Xgcc program.c ; ./program |
| 04:26.36 | cheal | casidgcoi: what's your native language? |
| 04:26.49 | casidgcoi | cheal pt_BR |
| 04:27.16 | cheal | casidgcoi: perhaps you would get more help in #debian-br |
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| 04:28.08 | casidgcoi | cheal this channel ninguem aid, has few people there |
| 04:28.22 | casidgcoi | ninguem = any |
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| 04:31.08 | jmd | Is there a user hook for when an xsession starts? |
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| 04:39.24 | niklaus | how do i write dvds on the fly with cdrecord. Can i do it is like mkisofs -J -R /home | cdrecord dev=0,1,0 |
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| 04:40.11 | prudhvi | How do i set a module to get index 0 ? |
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| 04:40.27 | jetscreamer | growisofs iirc |
| 04:40.38 | kjp | where can I find older versions of packages? |
| 04:40.43 | jetscreamer | pdo |
| 04:40.49 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 04:40.50 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/, or the machine that hosts http://packages.debian.org has been overloaded, a temporary replacement can be found at http://pdo.debian.net |
| 04:41.07 | lnc | what font did they use to make the "Debian" logo |
| 04:41.08 | lnc | ? |
| 04:41.26 | kjp | jetscreamer: link doesn't work |
| 04:41.31 | unix_infidel | can anyone recommend a dialup ISP that's Super cheap without any signup costs or contracts? I'm looking at paying b/w 5-10 a month, preferably based in the SW United States... |
| 04:41.50 | kjp | jetscreamer doesn't tell me where i can get OLDER versions does it? |
| 04:42.00 | kjp | jetscreamer, like yesterday's version |
| 04:42.05 | k-god | unix_infidel: Your neighbor's wifi ;-) |
| 04:42.24 | jetscreamer | link works here |
| 04:42.42 | kjp | jetscreamer: pdo.debian.net = can't find server |
| 04:42.49 | jetscreamer | try the other |
| 04:42.56 | unix_infidel | k-god: lol, no...i seriously need a dialup isp when i dont have broadband |
| 04:43.02 | kjp | Im looking at packages.debian.org |
| 04:43.10 | kjp | but i'm not finding how to get yesterday's version |
| 04:43.14 | k-god | unix_infidel: A lot of broadband providers will offer a companion dialup service. |
| 04:43.44 | k-god | unix_infidel: ... if that's your need. Otherwise, I think going rate for limited-access is about $10/mo. Eg: Earthlink, sonic.net, speakeasy. |
| 04:43.45 | unix_infidel | k-god: i'm with SBC, their landline based dialup access is like 2x their introductory broadband rate. |
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| 04:44.10 | k-god | unix_infidel: ... and I wouldn't go absolute bottom-basement prices as you tend to have service issues. Three I just mentioned are among the ohter. |
| 04:44.18 | k-god | unix_infidel: There's no bundled dialup service? |
| 04:44.25 | jetscreamer | which package |
| 04:44.25 | k-god | unix_infidel: I'd bail on SBC in that case. |
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| 04:44.58 | lekvar | How do I find out which package installed a certain executable? |
| 04:45.06 | unix_infidel | k-god: "limited access"? |
| 04:45.11 | Agrajag- | lekvar: dpkg -S |
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| 04:45.24 | k-god | unix_infidel: As opposed to unlimited. |
| 04:45.29 | unix_infidel | bah. |
| 04:45.49 | k-god | unix_infidel: Usually more than you'd need, but just not simply unlimited. |
| 04:45.53 | lekvar | Agrajag-: thanks. did't work :( |
| 04:46.13 | k-god | unix_infidel: Eg: Earthlink has both local dialup and a 1-800 number you can call (at a per-minute or per-hour charge). |
| 04:46.40 | lekvar | hrm |
| 04:46.51 | jmd_ | lekvar, You can also try grep <filename> /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |
| 04:46.57 | unix_infidel | k-god: but earthlink is super expensive compared to other alternatives. |
| 04:47.16 | k-god | unix_infidel: Where are you located? |
| 04:47.20 | lekvar | jmd_: aha! that worked |
| 04:47.26 | k-god | unix_infidel: Um. ~40-50/mo broadband. |
| 04:47.28 | unix_infidel | texas. |
| 04:47.45 | unix_infidel | k-god: more like 15-25 a month for broadband...DSL. |
| 04:47.51 | jmd_ | dpkg -S should also have worked. |
| 04:47.51 | dpkg | Dingos ate my should also have worked.! |
| 04:48.07 | unix_infidel | juno for instance is 10 a month...not sure if they have a intro charge. |
| 04:48.07 | k-god | unix_infidel: I'd check first with SBC, then with earthlink, sonic, and speakeasy. It's your problem, do your own damned research. |
| 04:48.10 | nayyares | is there any replace to coral-painter for linux, i want to do some white-board kind of stuff??? |
| 04:48.48 | unix_infidel | k-god: if it was a problem it'd be solved by now....its research... |
| 04:49.15 | unix_infidel | sbc doesnt bundle as far as i know. and not at less than 10 bucks a month on top of their broadband. |
| 04:49.20 | k-god | unix_infidel: www.getisp.info/dial-up.html - |
| 04:49.22 | lekvar | Is there some way to execute the installer for unstable from, say, grub, so I can just do a clean 2.6 "unstable" install... I dont have any way to burn install media |
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| 04:49.32 | roler | There is a problem with my video playback in linux... the first bit of a video is proper but after it plays the colors go wacky and everything is off. every video after that is just as bad |
| 04:50.03 | lekvar | Like download an installer iso into a partition. I already have my drive diced up for multiple systems anyhow. |
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| 04:51.21 | lekvar | "alsaconf" doesn't even seem to have helped matters |
| 04:51.29 | litage | when i run ``sudo -u www-data logger -f /var/log/foo/bar.log -p local5.info -t www_test -- test by user www-data'' why might the message show up in /var/log/syslog rather than /var/log/foo/bar.log? |
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| 04:51.32 | jmd_ | What's the best way to set an environment variable whenever I start an X session ? |
| 04:51.43 | k-god | jmd_: .xsession |
| 04:51.53 | Wolfpack | anyone ever have problems installing Debian on a Dell Poweredge 6400 ? |
| 04:52.00 | lekvar | Now my dmesg is full of "evbug.c: Event. [...]" errors. |
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| 04:52.06 | k-god | jmd_: ... or as a test within ~/.bashrc, or within your X init scripts /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ |
| 04:52.23 | k-god | !tell Wolfpack about smart questions |
| 04:52.29 | k-god | !tell Wolfpack about polls |
| 04:52.33 | k-god | Wolfpack: No, never, it's just you. |
| 04:52.59 | Wolfpack | *shakes head* |
| 04:53.04 | Wolfpack | Some help you are. |
| 04:53.18 | k-god | Wolfpack: Why don't you tell us what sort of problem you're having. |
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| 04:53.26 | litage | Wolfpack: learn to ask a good question and you'll receive a good answer |
| 04:53.32 | k-god | Wolfpack: And take some irony and sarcasm supplements while you're at it. |
| 04:53.44 | Wolfpack | Debian apparently doesn't recognize my RAID card.. |
| 04:53.52 | Wolfpack | when it picked it up fine in an older Dell PowerEdge. |
| 04:54.00 | k-god | Wolfpack: Is that the onboard PERC raid? |
| 04:54.04 | Wolfpack | and k-god, I'm very well versed in irony and sarcasm.. I'm not really fond of it |
| 04:54.07 | Agrajag- | Wolfpack: are you using 2.6.8 and is it using megaraid? |
| 04:54.15 | Wolfpack | actually.. i'm not sure if it's onboard or external |
| 04:54.22 | k-god | Wolfpack: Well, find out. |
| 04:54.30 | Wolfpack | actually, i just booted it directly from cd.. i'll try linux26 ... |
| 04:54.40 | k-god | Wolfpack: knoppix and a script 'system-info' I've written can be useful. |
| 04:54.46 | Agrajag- | Wolfpack: if you're using sarge and a 2.6 kernel, 2.6.8 is missing the megaraid2 module |
| 04:54.49 | k-god | Wolfpack: http://linuxmafia.com/~karsten/Downloads/ |
| 04:54.56 | Wolfpack | Well |
| 04:55.01 | Agrajag- | Wolfpack: 2.4 should have it, and it should work |
| 04:55.06 | Wolfpack | Hrm |
| 04:55.10 | Wolfpack | I'm just trying to INSTALL it ;) |
| 04:55.20 | Agrajag- | Wolfpack: this was the case for a poweredge 2850 i installed sarge on recently |
| 04:55.28 | Wolfpack | Said it couldn't find any hard drives. |
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| 04:55.32 | k-god | Wolfpack: Indeed. And the installer lacks your RAID driver. Hence the problem. |
| 04:55.48 | Agrajag- | Wolfpack: so i installed with the 2.4 kernel, then installed a newer 2.6 kernel |
| 04:55.50 | Wolfpack | They're both PERC/2 cards AFAIK |
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| 04:56.02 | Wolfpack | Agrajag-, I think default debian sarge installer is 2.4 ? |
| 04:56.18 | Agrajag- | yeah it is - so if you used that it's probably a different problem from what i had |
| 04:56.18 | Wolfpack | unless i'm missing something |
| 04:56.25 | k-god | Wolfpack: Agrajag- seems to have more experience here. I've just seen a lot of issues, mostly older, posted WRT the PERC raid. |
| 04:56.29 | Wolfpack | That's what i did.. :( |
| 04:56.45 | Wolfpack | Well, k-god i did get past the PERC/2 RAID problem once before |
| 04:56.49 | Wolfpack | but not on this box :( |
| 04:56.58 | k-god | Wolfpack: Alternatively, you could try linux26 as the installer boot option and see if it's the 2.6 kernel that solves the problem. |
| 04:57.07 | Wolfpack | I'll try that just for fun |
| 04:57.14 | Agrajag- | Wolfpack: yeah try that. sounds different from what i was saying |
| 04:57.15 | k-god | Wolfpack: ... _or_ boot Knoppix and do a debootstrap install, which I'd also strongly recommend. |
| 04:57.26 | Wolfpack | Never tried a bootstrap install <G> |
| 04:57.30 | Wolfpack | only with Gentoo <G. |
| 04:57.33 | k-god | Wolfpack: ... you get Knoppix's HW detection and infrastructure during your installation process. |
| 04:57.42 | k-god | Wolfpack: I wrote the docs in the Debian Install Manual. |
| 04:57.48 | k-god | Wolfpack: Appendix C4. |
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| 04:58.28 | unix_infidel | k-god: thanks for the help anyway. |
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| 04:58.37 | k-god | unix_infidel: NP. |
| 04:58.47 | k-god | unix_infidel: Seriously, ditch SBC if you possibly can. |
| 04:59.33 | unix_infidel | k-god: going comcast soon, hopefully. |
| 04:59.50 | unix_infidel | parents are paying for a new apartment anywhere at any college i want. so i'm getting broadband. |
| 04:59.52 | k-god | unix_infidel: frying pan / fire, but sure. |
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| 05:02.50 | Wolfpack | Damn. |
| 05:02.56 | Wolfpack | linux26 failed too ;( |
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| 05:08.06 | lnc | what font did they use to make the "Debian" logo |
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| 05:09.17 | Kinks | Inc: what makes you so sure a font was used to begin with? |
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| 05:10.17 | nayyares | is there any replace to coral-painter for linux, i want to do some white-board kind of stuff??? |
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| 05:11.55 | cafuego | The Debian font is Poppl Laudatio |
| 05:12.13 | cafuego | That's a payware font. |
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| 05:12.48 | cafuego | nayyares: bitmap or vector drawing? |
| 05:13.02 | cafuego | nayyares: bitmap -> gimp; vector-> inkscape |
| 05:13.06 | w32 | grub error 18 after a fresh install (sarge) indicates that the disk controllers bios can't handle the larger disks (pair of 80gb) in a raid 1, right ? |
| 05:13.58 | unix_infidel | how good is bluetooth support in linux? i'm attempting to connect to transfer songs to my cell phone via BT? |
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| 05:15.24 | w32 | it needs to be upgraded perhaps but do you think it'd work if I just manually partitioned the disks to below the 80gb like 40gb or so ? |
| 05:16.52 | cafuego | are you using the MBR on both disks? |
| 05:17.01 | w32 | I'm sorry may not be very clear- it just seems weird-because the raid controller does detect them as 80gb so that doesn't really make sense that it's the bios of the controller |
| 05:17.16 | w32 | yeah its a straight out harware mirror |
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| 05:17.54 | w32 | the controller card is an 8pt 3ware 5xxx |
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| 05:18.19 | w32 | I'm only using two of the 8 |
| 05:18.34 | cafuego | Ah ok, so grub should be using the raid device, not access the HDDs directly at all eh? |
| 05:18.54 | w32 | yeah |
| 05:19.09 | cafuego | Does it just emulate scsi or does it have a specific device file name? |
| 05:19.14 | w32 | I can't even escape into grub it starts to load and returns error 18 |
| 05:19.30 | cafuego | w32: on bootup? |
| 05:19.40 | w32 | yeah |
| 05:19.47 | w32 | after a fresh install |
| 05:19.48 | cafuego | So it can't access its stage files. |
| 05:19.53 | w32 | exactly |
| 05:20.06 | w32 | I haven't even set up root yet |
| 05:20.40 | cafuego | Are there any bios updates for the 3ware card and/or your mobo? |
| 05:21.22 | w32 | the motherboard dios is current...the raid controller is a different story |
| 05:21.43 | w32 | I *think* its a 5400 but not real sure |
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| 05:22.11 | w32 | it's a bitch to get it out of the rack |
| 05:22.23 | cafuego | <heh> |
| 05:22.33 | cafuego | otherwise, jut use lilo |
| 05:23.01 | w32 | is there an option to use lilo ? |
| 05:23.21 | w32 | I've always just installed grub to the mbr |
| 05:23.42 | buu | Hrm. Anyone happen to know how to change which number each window in screen has? |
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| 05:24.13 | w32 | I thought that if I clicked no to installing grub to the mbr I'd have to use a boot disk |
| 05:24.25 | cafuego | w32: if you cancel it at some stage, it'll drop o the advanced install, and that allows to to use LILO or gub. |
| 05:24.59 | w32 | so choose no and get to sh# then ? |
| 05:25.44 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:25.44 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:26.44 | w32 | dpkg is a pretty cool bot |
| 05:27.22 | wireddd | I agree |
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| 05:40.43 | dorel_ | heh |
| 05:41.26 | w32 | hi |
| 05:42.00 | dorel_ | has anyone seen this symptom on firefox? if i type in the address bar 'localhost' it points me to http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/l/locahost.htm (instead of the actual localhost resolving address 127.0.0.1) |
| 05:42.07 | dorel_ | something like a spyware |
| 05:42.36 | dorel_ | you'd think it could be a problem with the dns but when i ping localhost its resolving to 127.0.0.1 |
| 05:42.45 | w32 | mine doesn't |
| 05:43.13 | cheal | dorel_: Google I'm feeling lucky? |
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| 05:43.50 | dorel_ | oh my, you're absolutely right |
| 05:43.58 | dorel_ | how do i disable this? :P |
| 05:44.07 | tarzeau | can webalizer not also do ftp stats from xfer*? |
| 05:44.45 | k-god | dorel_: Um. You've got a dictionary lookup extension loaded? |
| 05:44.54 | tarzeau | yes it can |
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| 05:45.08 | k-god | dorel_: http://localhost/ should work for you. Typing text into the navbar without a protocol is actually a bit of a punt. |
| 05:45.49 | dorel_ | http://localhost/ still points to that computerhope.com thing |
| 05:46.02 | dorel_ | no extensions loaded as far as i can tell but give me a min ill check |
| 05:46.05 | w32 | try http://127.0.0.1 |
| 05:46.20 | k-god | dorel_: OK, that would be an issue. |
| 05:46.26 | k-god | dorel_: Check /etc/hosts |
| 05:46.39 | k-god | dorel_: You should have a 'localhost' entry there for 127.0.0.1 |
| 05:46.41 | dorel_ | yeah 127.0.0.1 works but i need to fix the localhost thing |
| 05:46.59 | dorel_ | 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 05:47.04 | ice_1963 | k-god i know your not from the us |
| 05:47.15 | w32 | hmmm |
| 05:47.23 | w32 | that's right dorel_ |
| 05:47.36 | w32 | wtf |
| 05:47.37 | k-god | ice_1963: And what's your source of data on that? |
| 05:47.59 | ice_1963 | your not god |
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| 05:48.06 | w32 | some kinda library on the box maybe ? |
| 05:48.13 | k-god | ice_1963: Neither are Shrub, Bill, or Steve. |
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| 05:48.45 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 05:50.38 | dorel_ | well i dont know why its redirecting me then |
| 05:50.40 | dorel_ | thats so weird |
| 05:51.01 | k-god | dorel_: What browser? Firefox? |
| 05:51.42 | unstable | http://www.digg.com/technology/Why_Open_Standards_Matter_ |
| 05:52.36 | w32 | yeah-it is weird though because I expect mine to error becuase I don't have anything running- |
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| 05:53.04 | k-god | dorel_: Try another browser. |
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| 05:53.05 | w32 | it does error out on mine-maybe you could try localhost:port ? |
| 05:53.14 | w32 | and see what happens |
| 05:53.24 | w32 | do a netstat -tap |
| 05:53.25 | k-god | gnufan: A moniker created by a Texas columnist. IIRC Molly Ivans. |
| 05:53.32 | w32 | and pastebin it |
| 05:53.42 | Hedos | Hey guys, after installing debian, loading screen always blocks after: "hw_random: loaded successfully.". It just hangs there. Any idea what's going on or what could I try? |
| 05:53.44 | tarzeau | unstable: That item was not found |
| 05:53.54 | tarzeau | Hedos: which kernel? |
| 05:54.00 | tarzeau | Hedos: what hardware? what debian? |
| 05:54.21 | gnufan | dorel_: netscape and friends use to cache localhost.com or some other site aggressively if localhost didn't have a webserver on it, and the defaults were left -- probably something similar. |
| 05:54.25 | k-god | CNET headline: "Comcast, Sony, to launch online horror network" Pity the don't realize MSN beat them to the punch by a decade. |
| 05:54.56 | Hedos | Debian, network installation (haven't proceeded to the actual network installation yet I believe).. not sure about the kernel. Hardware is a laptop, Acer Aspire 1694WMLi |
| 05:55.11 | dorel_ | k-god: yeah it's firefox. |
| 05:55.12 | Hedos | Well, network installation from the minimal CD |
| 05:55.12 | k-god | Hedos: Is that before or after mounting local drives and / or SysV init processes starting? |
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| 05:55.29 | Hedos | I'm going to verify that just now |
| 05:55.31 | k-god | dorel_: Try quitting and restarting. Sometimes cached data remains, including DNS lookups. |
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| 05:55.53 | w32 | or flush the resolver cache |
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| 05:56.44 | Hedos | It's after mounting local drives |
| 05:56.50 | Hedos | k-god |
| 05:57.10 | dorel_ | ok a sec |
| 05:57.33 | k-god | Hedos: Got it. Try a single-user mode boot. 'single' appended to kernel boot line in GRUB. If that doesn't work, try 'init=/bin/bash'. Get on the system and see if you can figure out where that line's coming from. |
| 05:58.09 | unstable | tarzeau: http://www.digg.com/technology/Why_Open_Standards_Matter_2 |
| 05:58.23 | Hedos | I'm trying that, thanks a lot |
| 06:00.02 | finn_ | kernel 2.4.27, << apt-get -f install bluez-* >> then << modprobe bluez >> and << modprobe bluetooth rfcomm l2cap >> but << hciconfig /dev/hci0 >> gives me "Can't init device hci0: Input/output error (5)" |
| 06:00.13 | Hedos | Hmm, might be interesting to note that, just before hw_random seems to be loading properly, something else isn't: "./pci_agent: line 156: 530 segmentation fault" ... "i810_audio: can't be loaded" ... "i810_rng: cannot disable RNG, aborting" |
| 06:00.18 | finn_ | any ideas what's going wrong? might it be a different device or am I missing something else? |
| 06:01.09 | k-god | Hedos: OK, module loading. Try commenting out modules in /etc/modules. Particularly the i810_rng and whatever follows it entries. |
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| 06:01.39 | Hedos | alright, thanks. "single" got me to the same point hanging out, I'm in bash now and will try to edit /etc/modules |
| 06:02.22 | lnc | anyone know what font did they use to make the "Debian" logo |
| 06:02.38 | unstable | xaralx went into unstable...awesome |
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| 06:04.13 | Hedos | k-god: there's only 5 modules listed in /etc/modules, none which seem related with my problem |
| 06:04.38 | k-god | Hedos: OK, it's coming from somewhere else then. |
| 06:04.48 | k-god | Hedos: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to figure out where. |
| 06:05.14 | k-god | helix: Your assets are your GRUB bootloader and edit prompt, find and grep, your looks, and my brains. |
| 06:05.19 | k-god | Hedos: ^^ |
| 06:05.21 | k-god | helix: NM. |
| 06:05.28 | Hedos | k-god: Mission Impossible? |
| 06:05.30 | k-god | Hedos: Looks like it's going to be tough going. |
| 06:05.38 | k-god | Hedos: I love it when a plan comes together. |
| 06:05.49 | k-god | Hedos: This tape will self-destruct. |
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| 06:05.54 | tarzeau | lnc: yes |
| 06:05.57 | tarzeau | !debian font |
| 06:06.10 | lnc | what font is it? |
| 06:06.16 | tarzeau | !debian-font |
| 06:06.18 | tarzeau | !debianfont |
| 06:06.19 | lnc | nope |
| 06:06.24 | tarzeau | dpkg: FUCK OFF |
| 06:06.24 | dpkg | you too, you cunt |
| 06:06.24 | lnc | !font debian |
| 06:06.32 | lnc | ? |
| 06:06.38 | tarzeau | lnc: www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-font/ |
| 06:06.48 | tarzeau | lnc: dpkg used to know it, the bitch got fucked so much she forgot |
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| 06:07.06 | tarzeau | dpkg debian font is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-font/ |
| 06:07.06 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 06:08.21 | dBgBdWolf | is this affecting anyone else? i can't connect to security.debian.org mirror 128.101.240.212 (debian-mirror.mirror.umn.edu) to rsync |
| 06:08.44 | k-god | Hedos: Googling that (looking for full original text example) turns up the M-I answering machine message. "Your message, should you choose to accept it, is to leave your name, number, and a brief message. This tape will destruct in 30 seconds." |
| 06:08.54 | tarzeau | dBgBdWolf: and 194.109.137.218? |
| 06:09.11 | jm_ | dBgBdWolf: rsync? why should it work via rsync? |
| 06:09.17 | dBgBdWolf | klecker works |
| 06:09.45 | tarzeau | jm_: so people with more than one computer can make their own mirror? |
| 06:09.46 | dBgBdWolf | jm: because there are organisations that mirror debian-security internally? |
| 06:09.51 | tarzeau | jm_: but i remember it doesnt |
| 06:10.03 | tarzeau | dBgBdWolf: we do it in another way than rsync... it's crappy but works |
| 06:10.15 | tarzeau | jm_: bandwith of security sometimes is horrible |
| 06:10.18 | Hedos | k-god: I have no idea what you are talking about! |
| 06:10.25 | tarzeau | jm_: even if you schedule the updates to not be at the same time |
| 06:10.28 | jm_ | dBgBdWolf: that's their problem then |
| 06:10.47 | jm_ | tarzeau: there are at least three hosts servicing it, just try again I guess |
| 06:10.55 | marx | apt-get is a wonderful thing |
| 06:10.58 | tarzeau | jm_: it wasn't 3 hosts short before |
| 06:11.07 | tarzeau | jm_: and even with the 3 hosts, a local network is faster |
| 06:11.08 | k-god | Hedos: As you said: it's the standard starting line from the 1970s TV series "Mission Impossible" |
| 06:11.14 | jm_ | tarzeau: I see it's down to two now |
| 06:11.25 | tarzeau | jm_: see, that's why we make our own mirror |
| 06:11.32 | tarzeau | jm_: the internet is thankful to people like us |
| 06:11.34 | jm_ | tarzeau: of course it is faster, but you can get the updates via http, it won't be any faster using rsync |
| 06:11.53 | tarzeau | jm_: it would be easier for those having a fullmirror anyway |
| 06:11.58 | k-god | Hedos: ... also a series of mid-1990s movies of the same title staring Tom NO I' |
| 06:12.01 | tarzeau | jm_: to not fiddle around getting also security |
| 06:12.21 | k-god | Hedos: ... I'M NOT STARK RAVING BONKERS Cruise. |
| 06:12.21 | dBgBdWolf | it could be faster if you have hundreds of machines. |
| 06:12.25 | dBgBdWolf | next you're going to tell me about a proxy |
| 06:12.31 | tarzeau | dBgBdWolf: how many do you have? |
| 06:12.36 | tarzeau | dBgBdWolf: haha, forget the proxy |
| 06:12.48 | k-god | tarzeau: ...and will you show him yours if he shows you his? |
| 06:13.04 | tarzeau | k-god: i'm just looking at mine... |
| 06:13.12 | jm_ | yeah use a proxy ... |
| 06:13.23 | tarzeau | no don't use a proxy |
| 06:13.25 | tarzeau | that's shit |
| 06:13.31 | tarzeau | mirror security |
| 06:14.19 | dBgBdWolf | aargh |
| 06:14.52 | LordNazgul | where does ssh keep its log? |
| 06:15.03 | tarzeau | LordNazgul: /var/log |
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| 06:15.36 | LordNazgul | tarzeau im not seeing it there |
| 06:15.37 | lnc | tarzeau: how do you manually install this font? |
| 06:15.41 | marx | could try /var/log/auth.log |
| 06:15.47 | lnc | im tryin to make a debian wallpaper |
| 06:15.48 | tarzeau | lnc: copy to /usr/share/fonts |
| 06:15.53 | lnc | k thanks |
| 06:15.58 | tarzeau | lnc: you're so cool, can we see the wallpaper when it's done? |
| 06:16.12 | lnc | ? |
| 06:16.14 | tarzeau | lnc: hopefully you don't add the text Linux to it, so Hurd and #gnu-kbsd GNU/kFreeBSD users can use it too |
| 06:16.21 | tarzeau | LordNazgul: i see it |
| 06:16.26 | marx | auth.log |
| 06:16.29 | lnc | lol @ gnu/freebsd |
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| 06:16.42 | tarzeau | lnc: it exists! and it's great |
| 06:16.49 | tarzeau | lnc: check http://io.debian.net/ |
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| 06:18.40 | tarzeau | we use mirror.conf and mirror to get security |
| 06:18.43 | Bazy | helo people, my / is xfs, and I didn't think of using /boot as ext3... so... I --purge lilo and installed grub, I waited for grub-install /dev/hda for 2 hours... and I got alot of segmentation fault's... so, my box doesn't boot |
| 06:18.43 | Stevie | 250 Stevie |
| 06:18.48 | LordNazgul | tarzeau i dont just want logins, but more detailed info. does it store that anywhere? |
| 06:19.04 | tarzeau | LordNazgul: more info like what? |
| 06:19.09 | liable | Bazy: so boot the install disk and re-install lilo |
| 06:19.17 | LordNazgul | port forwards and issues with that |
| 06:19.18 | tarzeau | LordNazgul: shoe size of connector? |
| 06:19.57 | Bazy | liable: I only have the netinstall cd, I need the first debian install cd then? |
| 06:20.14 | liable | Bazy: no you can chroot from the netinst |
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| 06:21.04 | Bazy | liable: I tried, but grub still doesn't install... is there a problem between grub and xfs ? |
| 06:21.20 | liable | Bazy: no idea, just re-install lilo |
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| 06:21.43 | jm_ | !+rescue |
| 06:21.43 | dpkg | well, rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerFAQ |
| 06:21.47 | k-god | Bazy: grub's /usr/share/doc/grub files should tell you what it does / doesn't suport. |
| 06:21.58 | jm_ | yay for wrong URL's |
| 06:22.01 | jm_ | URL-s even |
| 06:23.07 | jm_ | I think there was a factoid about this |
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| 06:25.53 | finn_ | apt-cache serach kernel-source-2. only gives me 2.4.x kernels |
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| 06:26.12 | finn_ | how do I install/get 2.6 sources (testing) |
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| 06:26.32 | cons_ | Isn't it linux-source-2, nowadays? |
| 06:26.44 | finn_ | let me check |
| 06:26.44 | jm_ | so you're using testing but haven't noticed that kernel packages have been renamed months ago? |
| 06:27.00 | finn_ | have it, thanks |
| 06:27.10 | tarzeau | we have the new DPL? |
| 06:27.47 | jm_ | tarzeau: according to the posts on Debian Planet I'd say yes |
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| 06:27.58 | jm_ | or is that Planet Debian? |
| 06:28.29 | tarzeau | planet.debian.org |
| 06:28.31 | cons_ | http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_002 |
| 06:28.35 | tarzeau | i've just seen it in /topic of #debian-devel |
| 06:29.07 | liable | sheesh i suck sometimes, i was compiling a kernel and decided to try to suspend my laptop.. (having problems with it atm) |
| 06:30.40 | jm_ | liable: that should work fine, you could even ctrl-c it |
| 06:32.00 | liable | jm_: its failing to sleep atm anyway, and then i lost my mouse, so i decided to reboot cause i am replacing the kernel i was booted in anyway. |
| 06:32.32 | liable | well, its 'trying' to sleep, but its failing.. |
| 06:33.36 | lekvar | If installing off the hard drive, how does the installer know where to find the boot.img file which presumably takes the place of an actual .iso or cdrom? Not quite seeing this in the manual |
| 06:33.48 | cons_ | are you running mysql? for some god forsaken reason it stopped my laptop from sleeping. |
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| 06:34.29 | liable | lekvar: you just get an install kernel and boot from that |
| 06:35.06 | jm_ | lekvar: you only need kernel and initrd image |
| 06:35.19 | lekvar | oh wait i want the netboot version |
| 06:35.29 | liable | thats ok |
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| 06:36.28 | liable | lekvar: get your kernel and intrd from here http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/2.6/ |
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| 06:37.09 | lekvar | liable: well, i'm doing etch actually |
| 06:37.22 | foo | I am having some issues connect my box up to my switch. The light doesn't come on on the switch, but I know the cable is good. lspci shows 2 ethernet controllers: VIA and 3COM. I have some via modules loaded, but I don't see any 3com modules. Do I need them? Any ideas? |
| 06:37.28 | liable | well, get the same image from the etch site then |
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| 06:38.02 | cons_ | does "ifconfig -a" know about them? |
| 06:38.06 | lekvar | liable: Mmmm good idea ;) |
| 06:38.22 | liable | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/beta2/images/hd-media/2.6/ |
| 06:38.28 | cons_ | 'sudo mii-tool -v ethN' will show the link status from the machine's point of view, too |
| 06:38.31 | peterS | foo: most modern 3com cards use the module '3c59x', you can always try loading that |
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| 06:39.32 | foo | peterS: Bah, I have that. I almost think I have a short on my motherboard, but I'm not sure. I mean, if I had a short, lspci wouldn't show both ethernet controllers. hmm |
| 06:39.47 | liable | foo: does anything show up in ifconfig -a?? |
| 06:40.05 | peterS | foo: as liable says, 'ifconfig -a', see if both eth0 and eth1 are listed |
| 06:40.23 | peterS | they should be, along with lo and (possibly) sit0 |
| 06:40.31 | billybob | is there a detailed spec on the ntfs file system floating around the internet anywhere? |
| 06:40.31 | foo | liable: yes, eth0, and eth1. eth0 is my gateway to the net, and eth1 is for my LAN. This box is a router |
| 06:41.03 | liable | foo: um, so they show as configured? |
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| 06:41.12 | liable | up and running? |
| 06:41.17 | oskie | i can't seem to get PAM/keyboard-interactive authentication to work with openssh-server... it just doesn't accept that auth despite no changed settings (trying "ssh localhost -o 'PreferredAuthentications keyboard-interactive'") |
| 06:41.26 | jm_ | billybob: check if Linux NTFS page on sf.net has some info |
| 06:41.31 | foo | liable: Yeah. I get a message ... |
| 06:41.37 | niklaus | how do i write dvds on the fly with cdrecord. Can i do it is like mkisofs -J -R /home | cdrecord dev=0,1,0 |
| 06:41.50 | jm_ | niklaus: use growisofs instead |
| 06:41.52 | foo | hmm |
| 06:41.55 | billybob | jm_:alright thanks |
| 06:41.56 | foo | Apr 9 23:38:04 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out |
| 06:42.02 | liable | niklaus: you need dvd+rw-tools |
| 06:42.04 | kshaeta | Hi. I was wondering if someone can tell me how to enable my Compaq Smart 2/E Array while installing from Debian CD's. Sarge release. I know in Redhat you just use the cpqarray eisa=0x1000 and it works. |
| 06:42.10 | foo | liable and peterS: That was straight from /var/log/messages |
| 06:42.31 | niklaus | jm_, do we need to create a seperate iso . I have very little space left. Moreover can growfs write cds |
| 06:42.36 | peterS | foo: I wonder about your transceiver then, the one for eth1 *may* be flaky |
| 06:42.49 | jm_ | niklaus: no |
| 06:42.53 | lekvar | This install will have style, because I've got Sun Ra in my cd drive. |
| 06:42.59 | foo | peterS: Hmm, what's a transceiver? Hmm. |
| 06:43.26 | liable | niklaus: cdrecord for cd's, growisofs for dvd's |
| 06:43.31 | peterS | foo: I'm referring to the physical interface (as opposed to the PCI interface) on the card |
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| 06:43.52 | foo | peterS: I see. Any ideas / tests to run? Hmm |
| 06:44.10 | peterS | foo: are both interfaces listed as "UP"? one test for that is 'ifconfig' without the -a flag |
| 06:44.29 | peterS | (ifconfig will report an interface as "UP", or not, in one of its output lines) |
| 06:44.44 | peterS | (but if you don't specify -a, it will *only* list the interfaces which are "UP", so then it's easy to tell) |
| 06:45.14 | foo | peterS: ifconfig -a shows eth0, eth1, lo, and sit0 |
| 06:45.22 | peterS | foo: yes but without -a |
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| 06:45.40 | foo | peterS: Shows all but sit0 (I brought that down) |
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| 06:46.08 | foo | peterS: If I am going from eth1 to my switch, should I have a crossover or a patch cable? |
| 06:46.13 | oskie | niklaus: you can do something like that, yes... but isn't dvdrecord better? |
| 06:46.15 | peterS | foo: regular patch cable |
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| 06:46.28 | peterS | foo: unless you go to the uplink port of the switch for some reason, then a crossover would be correct |
| 06:46.29 | iciclebox | is there an easy way to install Apache and PHP? |
| 06:46.30 | foo | peterS: alright, that's what I have |
| 06:46.43 | iciclebox | I remember there was a certain package I could download to install LAMP |
| 06:46.50 | foo | Apr 9 23:38:04 localhost kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out |
| 06:46.50 | foo | Apr 9 23:38:04 localhost kernel: eth1: Transmit timed out, status 0000, PHY status ffff, resetting... |
| 06:46.55 | liable | iciclebox: apt-get install apache php4?? |
| 06:46.56 | foo | peterS: ^^^ Straight from my logs. |
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| 06:47.46 | jm_ | whould would have thought it's so hard to install LAMP in Debian? but anything can happen when LAMR-s are involved :) |
| 06:47.58 | iciclebox | liable: thanks |
| 06:48.02 | peterS | foo: yeah, when it talks about the PHY, that's what I meant by transceiver. that's the part of the card that actually sends and receives electrical signals on the cable |
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| 06:48.29 | foo | peterS: I see. What do you recommend I do? |
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| 06:48.38 | iciclebox | ah, there ain't no php5 for sarge? |
| 06:48.44 | kshaeta | Anyone know how to enable a compaq smart array 2/E when installing debian? |
| 06:48.44 | foo | peterS: Are you implying my NIC might be bad? |
| 06:48.52 | liable | iciclebox: you can get it from backports |
| 06:49.00 | iciclebox | ok thanks |
| 06:49.02 | liable | .org |
| 06:49.09 | peterS | foo: flaky - it'll sometimes work and sometimes crap out. that's my guess. you may just need to replace it, you can't really repair or work around that sort of thing |
| 06:49.43 | foo | peterS: Yeah, it has worked and sometimes not worked. It's built in. I will just install a second PCI nic. |
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| 06:50.17 | peterS | *nod* |
| 06:50.28 | jm_ | I've had that happen with old kernel driver and VIA rhyne NIC too, some messing with the BIOS and using a newer driver helped |
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| 06:50.31 | peterS | if you're short on PCI slots you can buy cards with multiple ports, but those tend to be expensive |
| 06:51.18 | foo | peterS: thanks, hopefully this works. I'll come back and let you know/. |
| 06:51.19 | peterS | jm_: interesting, I wouldn't have guessed that that sort of thing could be a driver problem |
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| 06:52.18 | jm_ | peterS: yeah, I suppose it might have been something related to interrupts (shuffling cards arround, changing settings in the BIOS helped) |
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| 06:53.28 | sep | kernel security upgrade again.. ohwell there goes the uptime :P |
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| 06:53.57 | chealer | sep: that's the only reason why they're so rare :) |
| 06:54.24 | Loady | guys, how du i build a src.deb with custom compile time options ? |
| 06:54.39 | sep | chealer, well the uptime counter itself is irrelevant. but the availability of the services is not. |
| 06:54.44 | jm_ | download, unpack, modify, build |
| 06:54.55 | peterS | Loady: download an existing source package, extract it, edit 'debian/rules' to put your own flags in the appropriate places, then build it with 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -S' |
| 06:55.31 | peterS | Loady: download and extract can be done with 'apt-get source' if you have deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, or you can download the 2 or 3 source package files manually and extract them with 'dpkg-source -x foo.dsc' |
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| 06:55.50 | chealer | sep: I know. my top uptime machine runs its own uptime counter, so when it reboots, the uptime counter can't be accessed |
| 06:55.54 | Loady | PetersS: thanks. the output is a normal deb package right? |
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| 06:56.15 | sep | chealer, that's cheating ! |
| 06:56.27 | peterS | Loady: no it's a normal debian source package, that's what you were asking for. A source package is .dsc, and it's a text file containing references to either 1 or 2 other files (a .tar.gz and a .diff.gz) |
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| 06:56.48 | jm_ | ahh that's why you told him to use -S, I was wondering too :) |
| 06:56.56 | chealer | sep: it's not cheating, it's what the damn security team forces me to do! |
| 06:57.17 | sep | :) |
| 06:57.21 | peterS | Loady: if you want to build binary packages (the .deb files), don't say -S in the dpkg-buildpackage line, say -b or omit it entirely to build both |
| 06:57.21 | Loady | yes. but when you have buildt the package. the output is a .deb package with my custom output? |
| 06:57.29 | Loady | yes. but when you have buildt the package. the output is a .deb package with my custom flags? |
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| 06:58.32 | peterS | Loady: basically from an unpacked source package you can either (a) build a new source package (.dsc and related files) using -S, or (b) build binary packages (.deb files) with -b, or (c) build both by saying neither -b nor -S |
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| 07:00.35 | Loady | peterS: thanks for the info. sorry for the newbee questions, but im new to the debain package system. |
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| 07:02.05 | deadcat | suddenly my system font is bigger than usual. rebooted after 17 days of uptime on unstable |
| 07:02.06 | peterS | Loady: that's why we're here. btw, if you don't want to do this stuff as root, you should install the 'fakeroot' package, then you can use 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot' as a non-root user |
| 07:03.17 | unstable | deadcat: What de or wm? |
| 07:03.22 | deadcat | unstable: openbox. |
| 07:03.25 | unstable | deadcat: Why isn't slim in unstable yet? |
| 07:03.26 | deadcat | unstable: maybe its my dpi |
| 07:04.00 | deadcat | unstable: i dont know. i think the moron dont care about it anymore or something |
| 07:04.17 | Loady | peterS: thanks :) |
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| 07:05.15 | peterS | Loady: oh, did I mention the need to install the 'build-essential' package, to make sure you have things that may be needed for building packages? also you may need other specific packages in order to build specific things - dpkg-buildpackage will complain and tell you which ones, if that happens |
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| 07:07.02 | deadcat | hmm. i guess i have to set dpi 75 mysefl )= |
| 07:07.10 | lekvar | Well that didn't quite work. Still wound up searching for an iso. Maybe it can't deal with my orinoco wireless card |
| 07:07.33 | lekvar | i dont notice it in the manifest... |
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| 07:07.59 | niklaus | how to use growisofs to write dvds on the fly |
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| 07:09.20 | peterS | is growisofs not documented? |
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| 07:10.22 | jm_ | there are examples in the man page |
| 07:10.47 | tarzeau | graveman is nice |
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| 07:15.02 | deadcat | dvdrecord is aliased to `growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J' |
| 07:15.06 | deadcat | (= |
| 07:15.10 | foo | Hmm, who was I talking to about my NIC problem again? |
| 07:15.16 | tarzeau | niklaus: use graveman |
| 07:15.19 | foo | petykooo: yo |
| 07:15.25 | foo | peterS: heh |
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| 07:16.02 | peterS | I've been confused with petemc and peterrooney before, but I don't recall petykooo getting my messages before |
| 07:16.05 | samuel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:16.17 | foo | peterS: Alright, I got the new nic up. Everything looks good. Except that the client isn't picking up an ip address. dhcpd3 is running on eth2 .. which is the right controller. blah. I have ran tcpdump on the server, and when the client requests an IP, it isn't hitting the sniffer at all. |
| 07:16.31 | deadcat | openbox and the clearlooks themes are hella nice (= |
| 07:16.36 | himmelstrutten | hello! I'm the need of sending out a newsletter to a large amount of e-mails - is there any program you recommend me using? |
| 07:16.54 | unstable | !spam |
| 07:16.55 | dpkg | i guess spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
| 07:16.56 | peterS | foo: so the client's request isn't hitting the server? that sounds like a client problem then |
| 07:17.10 | deadcat | himmelstrutten: while loop |
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| 07:17.50 | foo | peterS: hmm, I see. The client was just online before, though, that's what is weird. blah. Hmm, any other ideas? |
| 07:17.51 | peterS | himmelstrutten: various mailing list software works fine. mailman and enemies-of-carlotta are popular |
| 07:17.54 | himmelstrutten | deadc: well, thats true.. but thats not what I'm after. |
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| 07:18.11 | himmelstrutten | peters: alright, thanks alot for the pointers! |
| 07:18.25 | peterS | well, actually I don't know if eoc is "popular", but it sure has a cool name |
| 07:18.27 | deadcat | i usually use a phpscript to do it for me (= |
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| 07:19.11 | peterS | himmelstrutten: smartlist is also popular, but I have heard that it's also kind of annoying. I haven't been a list admin for a long time so I can't tell you from firsthand experience |
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| 07:20.34 | peterS | foo: to debug this I guess I would assign the client an IP address manually and see if *other* kinds of traffic go through |
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| 07:21.34 | tijn | morning all |
| 07:22.01 | liable | jm_: remember my grub issue? |
| 07:22.28 | jm_ | liable: yes, and my :) |
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| 07:22.30 | foo | peterS: bah, alright. |
| 07:22.40 | sciboy | Hey, what download managers do you guys use? |
| 07:22.47 | tijn | !blootbot |
| 07:22.47 | dpkg | well, blootbot is a severely mutiliated infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 07:22.57 | sciboy | D4X has been segfaulting so much it has become ridiculous. |
| 07:23.14 | streuner | sciboy: /msg dpgk popcon |
| 07:23.16 | tarzeau | some gcj people in here? |
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| 07:24.02 | streuner | sciboy: s/dpgk/dpkg/ |
| 07:24.04 | tijn | Blootbot archive is gone |
| 07:24.21 | peterS | tijn: looking for dpkg's database? /msg dpkg my factoids |
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| 07:24.25 | liable | jm_: heh. :) another tidbit. i hadnt booted a debian image for some time. I just re-installed my laptop, still the same grub issue. Strangely though, the time it takes lilo to begin loading a debian image is around three times as long as it takes for a non initrd custom kernel. |
| 07:24.59 | unstable | sciboy: download managers for what? |
| 07:25.06 | unstable | sciboy: Are you talking about downloading animal porn? |
| 07:25.19 | jm_ | liable: yeah, I've seen initrd loading being slow on several machines |
| 07:25.23 | tijn | peterS: well actually iam looking for the web frontend for blootbot |
| 07:25.26 | jm_ | liable: both in GRUB and lilo |
| 07:25.26 | tijn | but thnx |
| 07:25.27 | sciboy | unstable, Some of it, i guess could be called that. |
| 07:25.42 | sciboy | unstable, But for the most part it's big files off slow servers. |
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| 07:25.54 | unstable | sciboy: So you want to download things that are copyrighted illegally? |
| 07:26.12 | sciboy | unstable, Since when was copyright illegal? |
| 07:26.17 | liable | jm_: this is like 20 seconds longer, just to *start* loading the image. i get a loading lin0 ...... then it starts booting the actual kernel. |
| 07:26.19 | unstable | sciboy: apt-get install gtk-gnutella |
| 07:26.26 | sciboy | unstable, No thanks. |
| 07:26.37 | sciboy | unstable, I'm looking for a http/ftp download manager. |
| 07:26.43 | foo | eth2: Promiscuous mode enabled. |
| 07:26.43 | foo | device eth2 entered promiscuous mode |
| 07:26.46 | dorel_ | has anyone played with xosd before? |
| 07:26.50 | foo | peterS: ^^^ hmm, should eth2 be doing that? |
| 07:26.51 | heny`zZz | which file do i have to edit for last login msg's? |
| 07:26.52 | unstable | sciboy: What is wrong with your web browser? |
| 07:26.56 | unstable | sciboy: wget/ls/cd/mkdir? |
| 07:26.58 | jm_ | liable: so it looks like lilo is now exhibiting the same problem as GRUB then? |
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| 07:27.08 | jm_ | heny`zZz: as in disable it? |
| 07:27.10 | sciboy | unstable, It doesn't support file splitting. |
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| 07:27.19 | peterS | foo: if you run a packet sniffer, it normally switches the NIC to promisc mode so that it can pick up traffic not intended for your machine |
| 07:27.20 | unstable | sciboy: yes it does. |
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| 07:27.27 | heny`zZz | jm_: huhu? |
| 07:27.28 | sciboy | unstable, Which i need to crank some speed out of these servers. |
| 07:27.29 | heny`zZz | huh? |
| 07:27.32 | peterS | foo: I guess you can tell the packet sniffer program not to do that, but that's the default mode of operation |
| 07:27.40 | liable | jm_: only with an initrd image. i might try re-installing grub and see if it does the same with initrd/non initrd |
| 07:27.59 | sciboy | unstable, I'm thinking of giving Aria a go. |
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| 07:28.05 | foo | peterS: hmm, I wonder if that would cause conflicts with the dhcpd3 server |
| 07:28.16 | peterS | foo: in a switched environment there's not much difference between promisc and normal mode anyway |
| 07:28.19 | liable | jm_: there has always been a bit of a delay with lilo, but about 1/4 that of the grub delay. |
| 07:28.43 | peterS | I don't think it should interfere with dhcpd, but who knows for sure. in fact, dhcpd may need promisc mode, I'm not certain how it's implemented |
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| 07:28.50 | foo | peterS: ah, right. I really think the problem lies on the server still. Anything else I can check? |
| 07:29.10 | jm_ | liable: yeah I remember that, I noticed that it definitely tries to access CD-ROM device on our slow machine, which has never happened on any other machine for me |
| 07:29.35 | peterS | foo: the 'dhcping' package lets you send various kinds of dhcp messages, for debugging purposes. check it out |
| 07:29.45 | Vsajanas | hello all |
| 07:30.01 | heny`zZz | which file do i have to edit for last login msg's? |
| 07:30.02 | sciboy | unstable, As a side-note, it's a pain finding legally downloadable content on gnutella. |
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| 07:30.30 | peterS | sciboy: amazing that legitimate users tend to prefer regular HTTP servers to distribute their stuff, eh? |
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| 07:31.26 | lorenz | !marillat |
| 07:31.26 | dpkg | hmm... marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 07:31.56 | foo | peterS: any other things I can try to make sure the server is good to go? |
| 07:32.39 | peterS | foo: you *can* try installing other dhcp servers, such as 'dhcp', which is the ISC dhcpd version 2, as opposed to 'dhcp3-server' which is apparently what you're using now |
| 07:32.40 | kristalino | is it possible to put an usb SVGA video card on linux ? |
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| 07:33.14 | Vsajanas | Download my games --------> http://www.thricesoft.com/download.php?list.5 |
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| 07:34.17 | tarzeau | kristalino: hahaha |
| 07:34.22 | tarzeau | kristalino: too slow |
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| 07:34.48 | tarzeau | Vsajanas: screenshots? |
| 07:34.52 | kristalino | tarzeau, it works on windows isn |
| 07:34.54 | kristalino | t it |
| 07:35.03 | tarzeau | kristalino: it exists? |
| 07:35.13 | tarzeau | Vsajanas: man, that's .exe files!? where's the source? |
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| 07:35.34 | Vsajanas | tarzeau: i dont add screenshoots jet |
| 07:35.39 | kristalino | tarzeau, i heard of, yes, but was it true... |
| 07:36.05 | tarzeau | kristalino: i doubt |
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| 07:36.13 | tarzeau | kristalino: was that on april 1st? |
| 07:36.15 | kristalino | tarzeau, http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Video-Card.html |
| 07:36.28 | heny`zZz | which file do i have to edit for last login msg's? |
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| 07:37.31 | peterS | heny`zZz: do you mean /etc/motd? |
| 07:37.46 | kristalino | haha, you can __even__ buy one !!! |
| 07:37.54 | heny`zZz | peterS: no |
| 07:37.59 | foo | peterS: :( Still no luck, I've been working on this for 2 hours... this is my home server. It's 12:37am and I'm about to give up. Do you have any last ideas? I have no idea what is going on. |
| 07:38.38 | peterS | foo: not really. you still haven't proven, at least to me, that the client and server can physically talk to each other at all. I suggested a way to test this but I don't remember you saying you had tried it |
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| 07:38.56 | tijn | !be action whore barbie |
| 07:38.57 | dpkg | For 3 dollah i'll make you HARD! |
| 07:39.00 | tijn | :) |
| 07:39.02 | foo | peterS: I tried to manually set the eth0 on the client. No luck |
| 07:39.22 | peterS | foo: if the client and server can't talk to each other at all, I would stop looking for dhcp problems and start looking at other things |
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| 07:39.46 | peterS | I mean, if you have manually assigned IPs in the same subnet and they still can't ping each other, that's saying something, y'know? |
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| 07:40.42 | foo | peterS: hmm, yeah, I just don't understand. I've had this server running for a while. Network is the same. server -patch-> switch -> client. Both cables leds light up on the switch. |
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| 07:41.51 | peterS | foo: make sure the new NIC and the switch like each other as far as autonegotiation go. some brands just annoy each other. if necessary, disable autoneg on the NIC using ethtool or mii-tool |
| 07:42.35 | peterS | you'd think N-WAY would be foolproof by now, but I've seen NICs and switches that just refuse to talk about these things |
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| 07:43.23 | ChrisW | is there a how-to for setting up svn behind ssl on apache using debian? |
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| 07:43.50 | ChrisW | I figure this must be qutie a common use case, and I'd like to do it the "right" way... |
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| 07:44.02 | peterS | ChrisW: which bits are you having trouble with? the svn-specific part is not hard at all, but apache2 with ssl might be a bit of a chore |
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| 07:44.24 | ChrisW | peterS: well yeah, it's the apache bti I'm just looking at now |
| 07:44.42 | peterS | ChrisW: see, I don't have any experience setting up apache2 with ssl, so I can't help much. the svn part I'm better at (: |
| 07:44.52 | ChrisW | the debian layout for apache is... as little intimidating coming from a normal httpd.conf background on other distros... |
| 07:45.23 | peterS | ChrisW: well, apache 1.3 uses a normal httpd.conf but for apache2 they switched to that fancier thing with modules having their own conf files and virtual hosts having their own conf files |
| 07:45.47 | peterS | I gather you can put configuration snippets just about anywhere and they'll take effect in one way or another (: |
| 07:45.50 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: you can totally ignore that layout and use a single httpd.conf if you want. |
| 07:45.53 | ChrisW | peterS: yeah, I see that... why... why god? *sigh* |
| 07:46.10 | ChrisW | dondelelcaro: yeah, that's kidna what I'm thinking... |
| 07:46.13 | sep | ChrisW, you'r free to ditch the whole thing and write your own. personaly i think it's a great system give you a much better overview |
| 07:46.19 | peterS | ChrisW: because it makes it really convenient to add, remove and configure individual modules and virtual hosts. once you figure out where the files are it makes a lot of sense |
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| 07:46.31 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: because it's much more elegant, and enables modules to drop in configuration snippets without dealing with modifying the configuration files that you've made changes to |
| 07:46.32 | eeyore- | peterS: not too long ago i had problems with 3com superstack switch and netgear ... they just don't do autonegotiation properly. had to force full duplex by hand |
| 07:46.37 | ChrisW | sep: well, that may well be hte case, which is why I'm askign what the "right" way is to do this |
| 07:46.57 | ChrisW | okay, so, firstup, getting ssl enabled... |
| 07:47.05 | peterS | eeyore-: yeah, I think those might've been the brands involved last time I had a similar problem, actually |
| 07:47.07 | ChrisW | looks like I might want to edit ports.conf... and what else? |
| 07:47.34 | dondelelcaro | ChrisW: it's basically just a case of installing modssl and modsvn; then seting up the configuration file for that site properly. |
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| 07:47.54 | sep | ChrisW, sillyboy. i just copy the ssl.conf from /usr/share/doc/apache2/examples |
| 07:47.55 | peterS | ChrisW: run 'a2enmod ssl' to create those symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ssl.* |
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| 07:48.23 | peterS | (or link them from /etc/apache2/mods-available/ by hand) |
| 07:48.48 | fluxdude | I have got the absolute weirdest thing, my central syslog-ng server displays to ttys 10,11 and 12. 11 and 12 are completely scrambled with funny symbols but tty10 is ok! |
| 07:49.13 | ChrisW | peterS: thanks |
| 07:49.20 | ChrisW | I take it I still need to edit ports.conf? |
| 07:49.37 | peterS | ChrisW: and speaking of which, /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf has a lot of stuff in it that you may or may not wish to futz with |
| 07:49.58 | Vsajanas | Download my games --------> http://www.thricesoft.com/download.php?list.5 |
| 07:49.58 | peterS | ChrisW: yeah, you need to listen on port 443 in some capacity. I forget whether you need to tell it anything special about ssl there |
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| 07:50.03 | tarzeau | someone remember edds' karma stats? |
| 07:50.23 | peterS | dondelelcaro: I'm guessing vsajanas is a spammer...? he said the same thing earlier |
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| 07:54.03 | lorenz | hello, what i have to do if i want that my system lg in root automatically and automatically run a prgram? |
| 07:54.04 | peterS | ChrisW: as for the subversion part, the apache portion is easy - just install libapache2-svn, run 'a2enmod dav_svn' and configure a <Location> probably within a virtual host. a good example config is in /etc/apache2/mods-available/dav_svn.conf |
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| 07:54.31 | unstable | !tell lorenz about startup |
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| 07:55.31 | lorenz | ok thanks |
| 07:55.35 | heny | !tell me about startup |
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| 07:57.34 | foo | peterS: eth2 .. for RX packets: 0 ... 0 0 0 ... TX packets: 225. Anything that would cause this card to not receive? |
| 07:58.05 | peterS | foo: all kinds of things. mostly hardware-related. there is pretty much no way I can be of any use helping diagnose that over irc. |
| 07:58.26 | FauxFaux | foo: It not being connected to anything? ;) |
| 07:58.40 | peterS | FauxFaux: well the status LED on his switch is apparently lighting up |
| 07:59.02 | cubiq | Can I force apt-get to compile from source? |
| 07:59.04 | FauxFaux | Dud network cable? Random crossover cable? |
| 07:59.20 | FauxFaux | cubiq: Yep, google://build-dep |
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| 07:59.50 | peterS | cubiq: you can but there's very little point in automating that, unless your CPU is complaining that it is too bored and wants more to do |
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| 08:00.43 | peterS | if you want to recompile packages because you want to make changes to the compile process, that's one thing, but in that case you obviously don't want it automated |
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| 08:01.01 | peterS | a "one-touch recompile" will produce pretty much exactly the same package you already have |
| 08:01.06 | foo | FauxFaux, peterS: I have switched cables and tested with my cable tester. Still no luck. Any other ideas? Anything else that would help me to troubleshoot? |
| 08:01.25 | k-god | peterS: USE flags ;-) |
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| 08:01.28 | jmg | peterS: unless it was horked on the buildd |
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| 08:01.48 | jmg | peterS: my workmate had to recompile pound this morning |
| 08:01.52 | FauxFaux | foo: I binned the card that did that to me :) |
| 08:02.03 | jmg | peterS: it was just horked :) |
| 08:02.30 | peterS | jmg: that does happen on occasion, but I think you're more likely to hork a package compiling it yourself than letting the buildd admins worry about the details |
| 08:02.54 | peterS | jmg: the buildd environments are carefully tuned and monitored, with much more experience and skill than the average user will bring to the table |
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| 08:03.35 | new_eng | hello |
| 08:03.36 | peterS | jmg: so I'd only locally recompile something after I *know* (or suspect) that the buildd caused a problem, not just on general principle |
| 08:03.52 | new_eng | السلام عليكم |
| 08:04.02 | new_eng | هل هناك عرب هنا او مسلمين ؟؟ |
| 08:04.09 | peterS | in English, please |
| 08:04.14 | new_eng | sorry |
| 08:04.14 | eeyore- | that's cool :-) |
| 08:04.18 | jmg | peterS: that doesnt stop britney having a bad hair day ;) |
| 08:04.23 | ChrisW | peterS: okay, where do I put the configuration for the virtual host? also, where do I put stuff like the ServerAdmin and ServerName config options? |
| 08:04.26 | new_eng | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:04.33 | sciboy | Woah, didn't know my client supported those characters. |
| 08:04.39 | bartlebee | new_eng, yeah I could 'kinda' read that |
| 08:04.46 | jm_ | :) |
| 08:04.48 | new_eng | its arabic font |
| 08:05.02 | new_eng | need some fonts to be supported in KDE |
| 08:05.04 | eeyore- | foo: when you ping between the two computers, do you get any ARP resolution at all? "arp -n", on both sides |
| 08:05.11 | peterS | ChrisW: ServerName is usually specific to a virtual host, so I'd put that in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 08:05.21 | bartlebee | the first line was assalam alikum ... so I must have those fonts |
| 08:05.32 | peterS | ChrisW: new virtual hosts, you can just copy that file to another name in the same directory and edit to taste |
| 08:05.33 | ChrisW | well, actually, I don't use virtual hosts on this server, it's just a dev server |
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| 08:05.52 | peterS | hey, just do everything in 000-default then (or directly in httpd.conf if you prefer) |
| 08:05.52 | new_eng | bartlebee, wooooow cool are you ara bic ?? |
| 08:05.53 | ChrisW | also, can I use /etc/passwd for the AuthUserFile config option? |
| 08:06.05 | eeyore- | foo: if there's not ARP resolution, it might be that you have some hardware conflict. i have a funny motherboard that every now and then would just for some reason assign conflicting resources so my onboard ethernet would end up with 'interrupt timeout' in dmesg output |
| 08:06.17 | bartlebee | not really :) from pakistan |
| 08:06.25 | peterS | ChrisW: I forget whether /etc/passwd is compatible with the AuthUserFile format, actually. it may be, if you are using basic auth as opposed to, say, digest |
| 08:06.31 | eeyore- | no wait, not interrupt timeout ... DMA timeout :-p |
| 08:06.34 | new_eng | welcome brother bartlebee :D |
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| 08:06.51 | bartlebee | heh - thx :) |
| 08:07.10 | new_eng | im computer engineer :) 1 year in linux :) bartlebee |
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| 08:08.24 | lekvar | weyulp... the 2.6 etch installer was a complete failure on my system. it can't correctly find either of my network cards even when i modprobe in the drivers, and has this nutty idea there's something on a firewire interface |
| 08:08.32 | new_eng | i have 2 problems till now so can any one help me ?? |
| 08:09.23 | eeyore- | lekvar: eth1394 |
| 08:09.29 | eeyore- | lekvar: remove it :-) |
| 08:09.40 | new_eng | so i will write them down wishing some 1 ca help |
| 08:10.05 | jm_ | new_eng: maybe local gipsy woman can help, I hear they have mind reading skills |
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| 08:10.14 | vaq | What is a good media center distro using Linux |
| 08:10.25 | jmg | knoppmyth |
| 08:10.36 | new_eng | be patien jm_ :D |
| 08:10.52 | lekvar | eeyore-: howcome? |
| 08:11.05 | peterS | lekvar: that's not nutty, networking over firewire is not all that uncommon |
| 08:11.11 | jmg | jm_: nice nick... like mine ;) |
| 08:11.27 | lekvar | peterS: it's nutty when there's no physical firewire interface on the system |
| 08:11.29 | ChrisW | how can I find otu what's using a particular port? |
| 08:11.29 | jm_ | jmg: hehe |
| 08:11.31 | eeyore- | lekvar: "crazy idea there's something on the firewire interface" == eth1394 module. if you don't need it, don't load it |
| 08:11.37 | lekvar | (nods) |
| 08:11.44 | lekvar | eeyore-: just checkin' |
| 08:11.46 | peterS | lekvar: there isn't? does the bios report one? |
| 08:12.01 | jm_ | !tell ChrisW -about open ports |
| 08:12.03 | lekvar | There is no firewire on a thinkpad 600e. |
| 08:12.25 | eeyore- | lekvar: there might be no header, but the internals might have it :-) |
| 08:12.38 | new_eng | the first one that wanna recover my boot in linux and i heard that if i copy /boot/ directory i can recover it throw re copying it again throw live distro. ????? what u htink is that true ?? is it work in new versiond of kernel |
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| 08:13.04 | peterS | eeyore-: that may be true but if so, it's pretty sloppy of the BIOS writers to report that it is available |
| 08:13.09 | eeyore- | lekvar: oh, and it might also be the new kernels' behaviour of ... how should i say it ... a lot of modules just load, eventhough they're not applicable |
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| 08:13.26 | peterS | eeyore-: almost as sloppy as reporting an IDE chip in the southbridge of an RS/6000 43P-150 |
| 08:13.33 | peterS | hmmm, both machines are IBM...... |
| 08:14.15 | eeyore- | the only RS/6000's i worked on actually had a lot of "PC" hardware :-) so i wouldn't be surprised |
| 08:14.23 | lekvar | eeyore-: I went through this before trying to get this machine set up nicely. Playing along didn't produce good results. I think at best I was forced to manually start my network every time. |
| 08:14.27 | peterS | eeyore-: I was quite disappointed when I opened the case and found that there was, in fact, no physical IDE interface. I was hoping to plug in a second hard drive without having to buy SCSI |
| 08:14.32 | cubiq | peterS: OK, thanks. Well I'm so used to the ports collection on freebsd and really like that I can compile and automagical get all deps compiled too. |
| 08:14.50 | peterS | eeyore-: so yeah, the southbridge may have an IDE interface but I wish Open Firmware hadn't gotten my hopes up about having it available to me |
| 08:14.52 | eeyore- | peterS: you sure it wasn't part of the southbridge? |
| 08:14.58 | eeyore- | peterS: hehe |
| 08:15.10 | ChrisW | jm_: thanks :-) |
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| 08:15.35 | eeyore- | peterS: but it had PCI expansion slots right? |
| 08:15.37 | cubiq | peterS: I'm compiling for an embedded VIA device and there for I need compile :) |
| 08:15.46 | peterS | eeyore-: yes |
| 08:15.57 | peterS | eeyore-: the IDE interface in question is even supported by a linux driver, which surprised me as I'd never heard of the chip, or the driver, before |
| 08:16.01 | vaq | jmg: Anything else? |
| 08:16.23 | eeyore- | cubiq: which one? |
| 08:16.32 | peterS | (a driver shipped by standard kernels, even, I mean) |
| 08:17.03 | new_eng | the first one that wanna recover my boot in linux and i heard that if i copy /boot/ directory i can recover it throw re copying it again throw live distro. ????? what u htink is that true ?? is it work in new versiond of kernel the second is my voice card ?? when i ply any voice like kaffiene or gaim or even skype its block the sound card ?? and so ane application use it at once any one know how to solve it ??? |
| 08:17.21 | cubiq | eeyore-: huh? :) |
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| 08:17.38 | peterS | eeyore-: and yes, the 43P-150 is a CHRP machine so it's very PC-like, even down to the parallel port at IO address 0x378 |
| 08:17.44 | jm_ | new_eng: use ALSA + dmix |
| 08:17.45 | eeyore- | cubiq: "i'm compiling for an embedded VIA device" ... "which one?" |
| 08:18.31 | new_eng | jm_: shall them work ?? both ?? |
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| 08:18.52 | jm_ | new_eng: it's for your second issue |
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| 08:19.19 | cubiq | EN-1200 mb with a 1200mhz fanless eden proc and the new CN700 chipset :) |
| 08:19.45 | eeyore- | peterS: i had to recover an RS/6000 once or twice. scary device names ... sure makes devfs looks tame |
| 08:19.57 | new_eng | jm_: thanx alot :D |
| 08:20.02 | eeyore- | kind of like Solaris device names |
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| 08:20.15 | new_eng | jm_: what about first issue u have any idea ?? |
| 08:20.20 | peterS | eeyore-: heh, I was about to say the same. which is not entirely coincidental, as both Sun and IBM use Open Firmware |
| 08:20.47 | lekvar | eeyore-: So how would I tell if my computer really is a firewire thalidamide baby? :) |
| 08:21.13 | peterS | eeyore-: AIX uses an interesting udev-like system, I think that's where I first got the idea that devfs might be inferior to a userspace version of the same |
| 08:21.17 | eeyore- | lekvar: if you don't have the headers for it, for all intent and purposes you don't have it, right? :-) |
| 08:21.23 | lewis222 | I'm looking for a text/command-based apache log analyzer, which just returns weekly/monthly overall bandwidth stats, per virtualhost. i.e. output would read: domain1.com 41.4Gb, domain2.com 123.Gb |
| 08:21.24 | jm_ | new_eng: you don't need to bother with that, you can boot with an install CD or rescude CD or live CD and fix it |
| 08:21.57 | tarzeau | lewis222: you've got separate log files? |
| 08:22.01 | lewis222 | nope - one big one |
| 08:22.06 | tarzeau | lewis222: either use webalizer or do your own with awk |
| 08:22.07 | lekvar | eeyore-: I'm more inclined to suspect there's a chicken/egg problem with udev on this hardware... |
| 08:22.16 | lewis222 | but it is CombinedLog, or whatever it is called, as I use awstats |
| 08:22.24 | tarzeau | lewis222: and how is the analyzer supposed to know which hit is for which virtualhost? |
| 08:22.26 | eeyore- | cubiq: odd, my two year old debian 'worked' on the EPIA SP when i first plugged in the hard drive :-) ok, so X didn't come up, but ... |
| 08:22.49 | eeyore- | lekvar: why not delete/blacklist eth1394? :-) |
| 08:23.14 | cubiq | eeyore-: Well, it works is just that I want to be able to put some optimizing compile flags when compiling different packages like Samba and Postgre :) |
| 08:23.28 | eeyore- | cubiq: why not run gentoo? |
| 08:23.29 | lewis222 | tarzeau: the virtualhost is on each line in access.log, as awstats uses it. Awstats however uses a separate config file for each virtualhost, and thus, you can't see them all at once, without logging out, then logging in again. Difficult for many domains. |
| 08:23.52 | cubiq | eeyore-: Really don't know. Is that I better choice? |
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| 08:23.59 | tarzeau | i see |
| 08:24.10 | lewis222 | what would you recommend? I think the log files are changed weekly. |
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| 08:24.37 | new_eng | jm_: im using local distrobution which its debian based so i just have live cd ??? so how should i do ?? |
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| 08:25.07 | jm_ | new_eng: Debian installer CD can be used for rescue purposes |
| 08:25.30 | cubiq | eeyore-: I come from embedded BSD som I'm kinda new on embedding linux. Is gentoo a better solution in this case or? |
| 08:25.33 | dondelelcaro | cubiq: in reality there's rarely any reason to use specific flags to the compiler. If you think there are, you can recompile specific packages starting with the debian source package. |
| 08:25.39 | lekvar | eeyore-: I can only take so many reboots in one night. Basicly I've mistakenly set up sid when i really wanted etch. i'd like a clean/pure 2.6 late kernel udev etch if i can manage it. |
| 08:25.45 | new_eng | jm_,: how can i get it ?? |
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| 08:26.17 | jm_ | new_eng: get what? you already said you have live CD, you can use that too |
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| 08:26.38 | lorenz | !framebuffer |
| 08:26.38 | dpkg | i guess framebuffer is a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn. if you're looking for the framebuffer console, see fbcon. X is also a framebuffer system, as is berlin. |
| 08:26.41 | finn | I have every bluez* packet installed, what do I need to do now in order to get my bluetooth dongle recognized? |
| 08:26.46 | entuall | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:26.50 | lewis222 | tarzeau? |
| 08:26.55 | lorenz | !fbcon |
| 08:26.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, fbcon is a graphics driver built into the kernel that accesses the video cards memory directly in a linear io, framebuffered X is just a way of using that kernel's framebuffer for graphics instead of the application itself having to know how the card works.. executive summary: it's hardware abstraction of the video, or slow, slow, slow... |
| 08:26.55 | tarzeau | lewis222: i can't help it |
| 08:27.04 | tarzeau | lewis222: you could easily do this with awk |
| 08:27.05 | eeyore- | cubiq: well, you could tweak the entire OS to whatever compile flags you want :-) |
| 08:27.21 | tarzeau | lewis222: check www.linuks.mine.nu/awk/ for a hint |
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| 08:27.27 | new_eng | jm_: sorry but im new inthis . after i log into live cd and the kde apprear .. how can recover boot ?? |
| 08:27.29 | lewis222 | appreciated. |
| 08:27.29 | eeyore- | cubiq: but still, if you want to truly embed something, you still would have to settle with running one 'devel' / and one 'embed' / |
| 08:27.32 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 08:27.32 | dpkg | noob is, like, Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 08:27.39 | cubiq | eeyore-: I bet you can get a small footprint with gentoo also? |
| 08:27.47 | tarzeau | new_eng: #debian-kde |
| 08:27.47 | jm_ | new_eng: mount+chroot |
| 08:27.52 | eeyore- | cubiq: not really, depends. |
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| 08:28.11 | finn | anybody? |
| 08:28.21 | eeyore- | cubiq: gentoo has its own baggage too, packaging systems, /usr/share/doc, etc. so if you truly want to embed you'd be compiling your stuff elsewhere |
| 08:28.25 | tarzeau | finn: read /usr/share/doc/blue* |
| 08:28.27 | dondelelcaro | cubiq: if you're not going to have a compiler on the device, gentoo is probably not the ideal choice. |
| 08:28.33 | cubiq | eeyore-: I'm gonna stripp the system manually anyway but it would be nice with a base system that isn't too bloated |
| 08:28.35 | superlinux | hey all i am using rp-pppoe server tool on debian .. i can go normally online but my friend cant... the connection is NATed. pppoe is serving the inbound LAN. there are no filter rules on iptables. what should be done? |
| 08:28.36 | lekvar | Hmmm I wonder what happens if I remove pcmcia-cs... it's supposedly deprecated *cough* |
| 08:28.58 | eeyore- | cubiq: right, so you'd be running a fully functional / alongside a stripped-down / |
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| 08:29.35 | cubiq | eeyore-: exactly, I'll have a host system and then probably cross compile. Or compile directly on my embed. It really depends. |
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| 08:30.10 | eeyore- | cubiq: what i do is i set up the host system, then i test it on 512MB partition, if that works then i write it to flash :-) |
| 08:30.12 | cubiq | dondelelcaro: OK, so cross-compile nevironment is hard with gentoo? |
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| 08:30.43 | cubiq | eeyore-: Sounds just like what I'm doing :) |
| 08:30.44 | eeyore- | cubiq: depends, i had a 'cross compile' where the host is athlon xp, and target is c3-2 |
| 08:30.57 | eeyore- | i like the athlon xp because it supports both mmx / sse |
| 08:31.00 | cubiq | eeyore-: And it worked :P |
| 08:31.10 | eeyore- | perfect for targeting various EPIA boards |
| 08:31.47 | peterS | that's hardly "cross compiling" |
| 08:31.54 | eeyore- | peterS: it's not :-) |
| 08:32.02 | peterS | that's merely masturbating with your compile flags |
| 08:32.09 | eeyore- | peterS: but, why should i cross compile when i don't need to :-) |
| 08:32.12 | new_eng | jm_: u mean mount the driver that have my /boot/ on it right ?? then do chroot whats the parameters ?? im using grub ?? and im really thanks to u |
| 08:32.19 | cubiq | peterS: LOL |
| 08:32.41 | eps | I want to remove three chars from the start of a bunch of file names, and add a word to the start...what programs should I be looking at the man pages for...I've already got tr doing part of what I need but I can't figure out the others names |
| 08:32.42 | eps | thx |
| 08:33.02 | eeyore- | peterS: well, the deal though is that if you compile your programs with mmx/sse and your CPU actually doesn't support it, then things that actually end up getting run, will break :-) |
| 08:33.03 | jm_ | new_eng: yes, mount the drive, usage for chroot is pretyt simple: chroot <mount_point> and if you're using Knoppix, be sure to read Knoppix FAQ otherwise you may run into a well known thing related to it |
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| 08:33.11 | dondelelcaro | cubiq: cross compile isn't the issue, it's deployment on a device separate from the one that you're compiling on. |
| 08:33.33 | jm_ | eps: man rename |
| 08:33.33 | eeyore- | peterS: so if i want to target the c3, then my P4 would be a wrong choice of 'host' to compile/test on ... |
| 08:33.49 | jm_ | eps: make sure it's Perl script, otherwise you can also use mmv |
| 08:34.05 | eeyore- | peterS: no 3dnow, for example |
| 08:34.13 | Unskill3d | hi! i have a debian installed on my hd but i want to test another distro on my usb-hd. how can i boot this system with grub ? |
| 08:34.16 | peterS | cubiq: if you need to customize your compile flags because the defaults just don't give you the right kind of orgasm, you should investigate 'pentium-builder', which apparently can be set up to run gcc in whatever way maximizes your pleasure, and still conveniently (re)build debian packages |
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| 08:34.26 | cubiq | dondelelcaro: True. I'll probably compile on the device as it isn't that much to compile and the embed system has enough performace. I just take an extra coffe break :) |
| 08:34.31 | dondelelcaro | Unskill3d: just install the other distro and use the debian kernel with a different root device. |
| 08:34.57 | dondelelcaro | cubiq: ok, but you'll still be deploying on a separate device. |
| 08:35.06 | peterS | eeyore-: the percentage of programs in debian that would ever notice the presence or absence of 3DNow! is quite small |
| 08:35.11 | Unskill3d | dondelelcaro: thanks! ill have a try |
| 08:35.12 | cubiq | dondelelcaro: True. |
| 08:35.18 | new_eng | jm_, : yes im using Arabian which based in knatox and knoppix thanx too much to u :) |
| 08:35.27 | superlinux | i wanna increase DDR-1 RAM but my board supports only 266Mhz MAX. will the 400MHz ones work? |
| 08:35.31 | dondelelcaro | cubiq: you should play around with cdebootstrap a bit and understand exactly why you want to use debian packages to do the deployment on your device. |
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| 08:35.50 | Stereo | hello everyone |
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| 08:35.59 | eps | jm_ thanks :) |
| 08:36.01 | peterS | superlinux: ddr-1 is ddr-1, 400 MHz chips should work fine on slower ones, as I understand it |
| 08:36.08 | eeyore- | superlinux: it will work electrically, but you won't notice it any faster |
| 08:36.16 | peterS | superlinux: I'm using a 400 MHz DIMM on my machine which only goes to 333 MHz |
| 08:36.19 | superlinux | i know that! |
| 08:36.27 | superlinux | i just want it to waork |
| 08:36.29 | superlinux | i just want it to work |
| 08:36.35 | Stereo | I have a system where /etc/mtab got deleted by mistake. Will ln -s /proc/mounts /etc/mtab work on debian? I see that my other debian boxes use a 'real' file. |
| 08:36.35 | superlinux | thanks |
| 08:36.38 | eeyore- | superlinux: 'work' would depend on other factors as well |
| 08:36.53 | peterS | Stereo: it will work until you want to use certain features of 'mount' |
| 08:36.53 | eeyore- | superlinux: like, chip count, double-sided vs single-sided |
| 08:36.56 | superlinux | but i am afraid that it'll damage my board |
| 08:37.05 | Unskill3d | anyone using xgl on debian yet? |
| 08:37.08 | peterS | Stereo: such as user mounts or loopback mounts. those won't *quite* do the right thing |
| 08:37.21 | eeyore- | superlinux: and some motherboards will also have restrictions on what can be plugged in where (multiple DIMM slots?) |
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| 08:37.36 | superlinux | ok |
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| 08:37.44 | Stereo | peterS: ah, cool. So it'll be enough to boot, and then I can just replace the symlink with a file with its contents, right? |
| 08:37.52 | peterS | superlinux: everything I know about memory types and compatibility I learned at crucial.com. they have a nice faq. |
| 08:37.54 | superlinux | My board is PCchips SiS |
| 08:37.58 | fluxdude | bill-barriere |
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| 08:38.12 | eeyore- | superlinux: read your motherboard manual :-) |
| 08:38.20 | peterS | Stereo: you could just delete it entirely and 'touch /etc/mtab' and it should get fixed up just fine next time you boot |
| 08:38.32 | fluxdude | sorry, had cursor over something, meant to say: does anybody know how to reset my tty that doesn't have a login on it? |
| 08:38.34 | eeyore- | superlinux: best not go nuts and stick to 1GB DIMM or less, per stick |
| 08:38.54 | superlinux | ok thanks |
| 08:39.12 | eeyore- | superlinux: 512MB = best bang for buck ratio, i believe. pricewatch.com |
| 08:39.34 | superlinux | yea thank |
| 08:39.55 | Stereo | peterS: oh, I didn't know. Thanks! |
| 08:42.08 | new_eng | jm_, : dmix woooooooooooooorks yes :D :D :D :D thanx too much |
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| 08:50.40 | citral | !moo |
| 08:50.40 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 08:56.20 | dpkg | Slackware owns! |
| 08:56.45 | unstable | !sex |
| 08:56.45 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
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| 08:58.26 | Stereo | ok, I booted from a cd and did a rm mtab; touch mtab and after rebooting in debian, mtab is blang and /proc/mounts is telling me that rootfs is mounted to / as rw and that /dev2/root2 is mounted as / as read-only. The box is still running 2.4 so I can't mount -o remount,rw. The fstab correctly has / as rw. Any idea of what could cause this? |
| 08:58.47 | Stereo | blank, even |
| 08:59.02 | Stereo | doing a symlink produces the same results |
| 08:59.50 | Stereo | something odd is that /dev/sda3 isn't listed in /proc/mounts |
| 08:59.54 | roxy_ | chealer: you're there ? |
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| 09:00.04 | chealer | roxy_: yes... |
| 09:00.18 | roxy_ | you wrote the follow up to the granule bug report ? |
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| 09:00.55 | Stereo | peterS: sorry to disturb you, are you still there? |
| 09:01.03 | peterS | maybe |
| 09:01.10 | chealer | roxy_: yes. I waited several hours then did it |
| 09:01.34 | roxy_ | chealer: thanks a lot, your work arount worked perfect |
| 09:02.04 | chealer | roxy_: cool |
| 09:02.39 | Stereo | peterS: did you read the couple of lines above? |
| 09:02.44 | peterS | Stereo: well, /etc/mtab is maintained by the 'mount' program, and I thought it would clean it up at boot time. I don't know why it would not, unless you booted straight to single-user mode and are still in it |
| 09:02.58 | Stereo | no, I'm in musti-user |
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| 09:03.09 | Stereo | I suppose it's blank because / is in read-only |
| 09:04.20 | peterS | yes, that's what I mean - normally you mount / read-write eventually, and mount obviously can't edit /etc/mtab until you do |
| 09:04.43 | Stereo | yeah |
| 09:04.55 | Stereo | now I need to find out why / is mounted rw |
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| 09:08.49 | usn_work | hi folx |
| 09:08.52 | kuvkir | hi all |
| 09:09.30 | kuvkir | is it possible to change 'C-a' in screen to something else? |
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| 09:10.57 | Stereo | kuvkir: yeah, add the man option to screen. in front of it. :p |
| 09:11.06 | Stereo | I think it's -y |
| 09:11.25 | Stereo | screen -y C-q or something like that |
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| 09:12.10 | jm_ | you can also specify it in .screenrc |
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| 09:17.45 | liable | why would i be getting echo: write error: Invalid argument when trying to echo to /sys? |
| 09:19.54 | jm_ | writing wrong value? |
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| 09:20.47 | liable | nope, been using this value for ages. just doent seem to work since install. debian kernel and custom kernel. echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 09:20.52 | fluxdude | reset /dev/tty12 doesn't work, my stupid tty12 is still garbled. When prompted I've tried term type linux, ansi, vt100 but they don't do it... |
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| 09:21.47 | liable | i'm also getting a echo error when trying to sleep via sysfs |
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| 09:24.39 | jm_ | liable: can you cat stuff in that dir? |
| 09:24.46 | liable | jm_: yep. |
| 09:25.10 | liable | jm_: might try 2.6.15 and see if its the same. this is 2.6.16 its failing on. |
| 09:25.16 | jm_ | liable: does /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors list ondemand? |
| 09:25.25 | liable | jm_: userspace |
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| 09:25.31 | liable | er. |
| 09:25.33 | liable | yes |
| 09:25.53 | liable | scalinig_governor is currently userspace |
| 09:26.12 | liable | gah, typing retard again tonight :) |
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| 09:26.18 | Stereo | !@# |
| 09:26.26 | Stereo | I restored the fstab from a backup |
| 09:26.46 | Stereo | there's nothing new in my /etc but my / is still being mounted read-only |
| 09:26.58 | jm_ | liable: pretty strange, it worked for me in 2.6.15 while I was toying with it |
| 09:27.03 | RichiH | jm_: refresh my memory.. how do i downgrade a package, again? |
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| 09:28.01 | jm_ | RichiH: it's easiest done with dpkg |
| 09:28.06 | spoown | hello all, does anyone can tell me how to update tree for "apt-get" like for gentoo "emerge sync" ?? Thanks |
| 09:28.23 | azeem | spoown: update tree? |
| 09:28.41 | saik0 | spoown, apt-get update |
| 09:29.15 | liable | jm_: nm, it wasnt in available.. (this kernel) :) |
| 09:29.24 | jm_ | liable: right, thought so |
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| 09:29.50 | spoown | saik0, like that, will i get the last update available from each program , right ? |
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| 09:30.35 | fluxdude | how's this for a weird problem, a tar.gz extracted by root as 'tar zxvf filename' extracts to dirname owned by a regular user and has the perms drwxr-sr-x !!!!!!! The parent directory perms are drwxr-xr-x, no sticky bits. WTHIGO? |
| 09:30.54 | saik0 | spoown, of sorry never actually used gentoo. apt-get update updates the repos, apt-get upgrade upgrades all things that are upgradable |
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| 09:31.53 | cusco | anyone here using a zydas wireless device? |
| 09:32.52 | spoown | saik0, ok , so i think, i first use "apt-get update", and then i'll update the program with "apt-get install XXX" , right ? i only want to update one program !! sorry for all question, but i'm working on a workstation, i don't have to do any wrong things !! |
| 09:33.23 | saik0 | spoown, yep thats right |
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| 09:33.42 | saik0 | spoown, might help to read the man |
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| 09:34.11 | simonrvn | man apt-get |
| 09:34.23 | simonrvn | instead of guessing ... |
| 09:34.29 | tedp | Anyone else looking forward to manpages-dev being fixed? :) |
| 09:35.00 | spoown | ok thanks all !! |
| 09:35.45 | tedp | I ask because it's been so long it feels like not many people are experiencing the problem (that it's uninstallable)? |
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| 09:42.53 | RichiH | jm_: classic case of searchingfor a complicated solution... |
| 09:42.57 | RichiH | duh |
| 09:43.15 | jm_ | RichiH: using apt-get? |
| 09:43.19 | mejobloggs | guys, how do i add a user? |
| 09:43.30 | RichiH | jm_: no, trying with --force-things et al |
| 09:43.49 | jm_ | RichiH: hmm you don't have to use force usually |
| 09:43.49 | RichiH | jm_: i was close to using Policy and all that crap, but thought of stopping here |
| 09:44.11 | RichiH | jm_: exactly. it did not work with force and that sent me off into the wrong direction |
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| 09:45.50 | RolandU | hi all! if I have two working debian-systems (one upgraded, one not) and I copy the new .deb-packes into /var/cache/apt/archives, will apt find them and not download them from server? |
| 09:46.13 | jm_ | RolandU: don't think so, unless you have run apt-get update |
| 09:46.22 | jm_ | i.e. it might not be aware that new v ersions exist at all |
| 09:46.33 | jm_ | fix typing to taste |
| 09:46.34 | flosch | hi |
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| 09:47.46 | mejobloggs | can someone quickly tell me the command to add a user please? adduser? |
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| 09:48.02 | wdamn | mejobloggs: yes |
| 09:48.11 | mejobloggs | ah, ok, cause it doesnt work for me |
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| 09:48.25 | wdamn | mejobloggs: are you root? |
| 09:48.32 | mejobloggs | probalby not |
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| 09:49.01 | wdamn | mejobloggs: you must be root to run adduser |
| 09:49.08 | mejobloggs | cool, thanks |
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| 09:51.51 | RolandU | jm_, but after running update? does it even look into its own directories? |
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| 09:52.22 | cusco | after I compiled something |
| 09:52.29 | cusco | how do I make a deb package? |
| 09:52.33 | cusco | out of it |
| 09:52.54 | azeem | cusco: read the new maintainers guide |
| 09:52.59 | azeem | at www.debian.org/devel |
| 09:54.28 | jm_ | RolandU: yes of course, what would be the point of it otherwise? |
| 09:54.44 | RichiH | jm_: anyway, thanks |
| 09:54.52 | jm_ | cusco: or look at checkinstall for simple solutions |
| 09:54.57 | jm_ | RichiH: no worries |
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| 09:55.40 | RolandU | jm_, I thought it only searches servers but not locally |
| 09:57.11 | RolandU | hmmm.... for some reason I am unable to send a specific file as attachment. thunderbird always crashes. |
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| 09:58.41 | Webmonkey | greetings |
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| 10:05.23 | Webmonkey | is there a way to deny host a specific ip range in hosts.deny? |
| 10:05.45 | jm_ | yes, man hosts_access |
| 10:05.48 | Webmonkey | like 192.[168-172]. |
| 10:05.49 | Webmonkey | thanks |
| 10:07.49 | Webmonkey | hmmm |
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| 10:08.17 | Webmonkey | jm_: An expression of the form `n.n.n.n/mm' is interpreted as a `net/masklength' pair, where `mm' is the number of consecutive `1' bits in the netmask applied to the `n.n.n.n' address <-- I think thats the one I need? |
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| 10:08.32 | Reko | Hello. |
| 10:08.36 | Webmonkey | hi Reko |
| 10:08.38 | jm_ | Webmonkey: yup, various subnet calculators will help you if you're not familiar with the notation |
| 10:09.01 | Webmonkey | jm_ thanks thats what I was gonna ask next ;-) |
| 10:09.35 | Reko | How can I get the mbstring, iconv, dba and exif modules for php5? I can't seem to find them in the repositories. |
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| 10:11.13 | Webmonkey | php5 support is fairly new in Deb? |
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| 10:12.01 | Reko | It is? |
| 10:12.52 | Webmonkey | I think so |
| 10:12.58 | jm_ | hmm first php5 changelog entry is from jul 2005 |
| 10:13.03 | FauxFaux | It's been specifically broken, too. |
| 10:13.06 | FauxFaux | PDO has been removed. |
| 10:13.08 | FauxFaux | >.< |
| 10:13.11 | Webmonkey | ah |
| 10:13.15 | Reko | Why's it been deliberately broken? |
| 10:13.41 | FauxFaux | Reko: I can't find any reasoning except a "it breaks things" in the changelog. |
| 10:13.46 | kristalino | do you know wich tool could i use to display battery level on a laptop ? (on kde) |
| 10:14.00 | Reko | heh. So, I'm best off compiling it myself? |
| 10:14.03 | jm_ | klaptopdaemon - battery monitoring and management for laptops using KDE |
| 10:14.18 | jm_ | maybe that helps, otherwise try #debian-kde or #kde |
| 10:14.59 | FauxFaux | Reko: There are a few places that do unofficial pacakges, I built it with apt-build crazyness (having edited the rules file) and it hasn't gone insane on my dev. box yet. |
| 10:15.10 | FauxFaux | Dunno if you want it on a release server though. |
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| 10:15.30 | RolandU | when I try to access a specific file using mozilla or thunderbird, the whole system holds. I can copy the file, change it's permissions, open it in openoffice, but using mozilla everything crashes. Very Strange. |
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| 10:16.07 | Reko | 'kay. Thanks |
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| 10:17.16 | Webmonkey | jm_: does this look ok to you: ALL: 12.145.0.0/24, 125.213.0.0/24, 24.125.0.0/24 |
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| 10:19.34 | finn | modconf has nothing listed for bluetooth |
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| 10:19.53 | finn | what did I do wrong when I compiled the 2.6 kernel? |
| 10:20.19 | jm_ | Webmonkey: do you know what those three ranges cover? |
| 10:20.41 | Reko | jm: they all cover the last octet |
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| 10:20.52 | jm_ | Reko: yes, but I am asking him |
| 10:20.54 | iLLf8d | good evening |
| 10:21.24 | iLLf8d | anyone know of a low overhead wav player for debian? (ie nothing gwav or kwav based? unless its really light) |
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| 10:21.49 | Webmonkey | jm_ those cover the full range of IP's on that network? |
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| 10:22.35 | jm_ | Webmonkey: ok, be more specific for say 12.145.0.0/24 |
| 10:22.40 | plbgnr | how can I see again log from starting linux? |
| 10:23.00 | jm_ | plbgnr: kernel messages or what? |
| 10:23.09 | streuner_ | plbgnr: dmesg? |
| 10:23.22 | Reko | jm, he means 12.145.0.(1-255) |
| 10:23.35 | finn | can I still get the required modules from somewhere? |
| 10:23.50 | Webmonkey | jm_ 12.145.0.1 to 12.145.0.254 ? |
| 10:23.55 | jm_ | Reko: can we please give him the chance to say it |
| 10:23.55 | lnc | what's smp mean? |
| 10:24.02 | jm_ | Webmonkey: ok good, is that what you want to block? |
| 10:24.28 | Webmonkey | jm_: I want to block 12.145.* |
| 10:24.32 | plbgnr | jm_: it looks like there are more informations by starting |
| 10:24.52 | jm_ | plbgnr: you mean init script messages and so on? |
| 10:25.00 | jm_ | Webmonkey: then 24 is too big |
| 10:25.04 | plbgnr | jm_:yes |
| 10:25.06 | Webmonkey | ah |
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| 10:25.18 | Reko | you want 12.145.0.0/16 |
| 10:25.22 | Webmonkey | oops |
| 10:25.27 | Webmonkey | thanks Reko/jm_ |
| 10:25.39 | Nemoder | evil xfce4-weather-plugin, took me two days to figure out it was what was crashing X :| |
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| 10:25.49 | jm_ | Webmonkey: apt-get install sipcalc, then 'sipcalc "24.125.0.0/24"' and toy with the numbers, or read subnetting howto to get familiar with it |
| 10:25.57 | jm_ | plbgnr: enable bootlogd |
| 10:25.59 | Webmonkey | okay |
| 10:26.09 | Reko | Webmonkey, each octet represents 8 bytes, making for a total of 32 bytes. /16 means the first 16 bytes, i.e. the first two octets |
| 10:26.25 | plbgnr | jm_ thanks |
| 10:26.40 | Reko | , /8 would be 12.* and so on |
| 10:26.45 | Webmonkey | phew |
| 10:26.55 | Reko | er, I mean bits, not bytes |
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| 10:29.21 | johnny06 | hi, do i need to apt-get upgrade my sarge distro |
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| 10:29.47 | Webmonkey | 24.125.0.0/16 = 65,536 addresses in network |
| 10:29.49 | streuner_ | Webmonkey: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//networking-concepts-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1 |
| 10:30.01 | Webmonkey | 24.15.0.0/24 = only 256 |
| 10:30.07 | djace | hrmm, anyonw know how to "negate" a group in a regexp, to match when it doesn't appear? (for example, don't match bar so foofoo matches but foobarfoo doesn't) |
| 10:30.09 | Webmonkey | streuner_: danke |
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| 10:31.05 | jm_ | djace: man 7 regex |
| 10:31.08 | Nemoder | johnny06: if it isn't broken don't fix it.. |
| 10:31.24 | tijn | or break it and fix it |
| 10:31.33 | Webmonkey | so.... |
| 10:31.49 | johnny06 | how would i know if it is broken |
| 10:32.41 | Webmonkey | if I have learned correctly, 24.125.0.0/8 = 24.* (16,777,215 addresses/every address) |
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| 10:32.47 | Webmonkey | that would be unwise? |
| 10:32.51 | Nemoder | if it doesn't do what you want it to? |
| 10:32.58 | johnny06 | o |
| 10:33.04 | djace | jm_: i've read it, but i can't find what i'm looking for :/ |
| 10:33.17 | johnny06 | thanks |
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| 10:33.35 | streuner_ | !be a man page barbie |
| 10:33.35 | dpkg | Aww, man page is HARD! Let's go shopping, streuner_ |
| 10:33.36 | jm_ | djace: how exactly would you match on that anyway? |
| 10:33.37 | Webmonkey | since we dont know who may use blocks of ip's on the 8 bit level, we cant filter at this level? |
| 10:34.33 | djace | jm_: maybe i haven't made myself clear enough, i want to match foo(anything except bar)foo |
| 10:34.40 | Webmonkey | i mean, a few pesky chinese spam relay servers inside 24.125.0.0 shouldnt warrant 24.125.0.0/8? |
| 10:34.56 | jm_ | djace: with grep or what? |
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| 10:35.29 | djace | jm_: inside a small perl script |
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| 10:36.59 | ndee | is there a way to find endless-symlinks? |
| 10:37.42 | jm_ | djace: then tell it that bar should appear zero times |
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| 10:38.26 | bkhl | ndee: only if they are circular... |
| 10:38.43 | ndee | bkhl: is there a way how I can find them in a specific directory? |
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| 10:39.13 | ndee | because I suspect that I have such a circular symlink and that causes a misbehaviour in a script of mien |
| 10:39.32 | bkhl | ndee: you will have to follow it along and see if you reach the same node twice. |
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| 10:40.04 | ndee | bkhl: so I have to follow them manually I guess? |
| 10:40.06 | bkhl | ndee: I _think_ the package symlinks can check for that sort of thing. |
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| 10:40.19 | jm_ | djace: or better yet, you can easily negate it in Perl, so if it doesn't match my regex, then do whatever |
| 10:40.22 | dealt | greetings! |
| 10:41.25 | dealt | im trying to install a package via apt-get when it halted due to a configuration error. after fixing configuration, how can i "fix" or resume my installation? |
| 10:41.27 | dealt | thanks |
| 10:41.33 | djace | jm_: hrmm ok i'll try that, thanks :P |
| 10:41.54 | jm_ | djace: weird, can't get {0} to works as I would expect it to work |
| 10:41.57 | ndee | bkhl: I found one of the circular symlinks, thanks :) |
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| 10:43.21 | jm_ | djace: Perl also has extended patterns where you can say "(?!pattern)" |
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| 10:47.16 | Amish | Heya, hi ermm hats samba |
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| 10:47.31 | Webmonkey | if a lot of hosts in china use 62. for ip address, is it safe to say 62.* is used only by china? |
| 10:47.37 | jm_ | no |
| 10:47.39 | Webmonkey | ok |
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| 10:47.47 | Amish | Heya, hi ermm whats samba |
| 10:47.57 | Amish | ?? |
| 10:48.06 | streuner_ | !info samba |
| 10:48.17 | dpkg | samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.22-1 (sid), Packaged size: 2998 kB, Installed size: 7512 kB |
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| 10:48.46 | Webmonkey | samba allows Windows users access to Unix network resources? |
| 10:49.21 | petemc | and vice versa |
| 10:49.27 | Webmonkey | cool |
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| 10:49.33 | Garda | Webmonkey, you a bot? |
| 10:49.35 | Reko | the interoperability is miraculous, yes |
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| 10:49.45 | Webmonkey | Garda: negative |
| 10:50.09 | billetes | serbuenas |
| 10:50.13 | billetes | ola |
| 10:50.24 | jmd_ | How can I reconfigure aptitude not to install recommends files? |
| 10:50.33 | ][oper][ | spain |
| 10:50.35 | dorel_ | oh man i almost did something horrible |
| 10:50.44 | Webmonkey | dorel_ what was it |
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| 10:50.58 | peterS | dorel_: what troubles you, my son? |
| 10:50.59 | dorel_ | i did apt-get remove --purge liblircclient-dev and liblircclient0 |
| 10:51.01 | jm_ | jmd_: man aptitude explains it |
| 10:51.03 | Webmonkey | put bad milk in your tea? |
| 10:51.11 | dorel_ | and immidiately pressed the return key |
| 10:51.18 | Webmonkey | oops |
| 10:51.20 | Amish | Right so how do i hack?? COz there must be some 1337 haxors here? Right? |
| 10:51.21 | dorel_ | which started removing other dependencies |
| 10:51.26 | dorel_ | like myth packages |
| 10:51.31 | dorel_ | so i ctrl+c'ed it |
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| 10:51.58 | Webmonkey | phew |
| 10:52.00 | Amish | Right so how do i hack?? COz there must be some 1337 haxors here? Right? |
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| 10:52.03 | dorel_ | can i remove just single packages? |
| 10:52.08 | peterS | wow, that guy is leet |
| 10:52.12 | dorel_ | lol yeah peter |
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| 10:52.30 | Amish | OMG why did you kick me you b00bs |
| 10:52.31 | Webmonkey | BT user |
| 10:52.39 | Amish | Wha? |
| 10:52.46 | Amish | i ment you n00bs? |
| 10:52.53 | Amish | im outta here arggg |
| 10:52.53 | peterS | !ops amish would be a nuisance if he could figure out how to evade the leet flood bot |
| 10:52.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: amish would be a nuisance if he could figure out how to evade the leet flood bot |
| 10:52.54 | jm_ | Webmonkey: as in British Tard? :) |
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| 10:52.55 | jmd_ | jm_: It doesn't seem to make sense. |
| 10:53.10 | Webmonkey | jm_ haha |
| 10:53.15 | jm_ | jmd_: a simple command line/config file option doesn't make sense? |
| 10:53.40 | Nemoder | djace: /foo(?!bar).*foo/ |
| 10:53.42 | Amish | ? |
| 10:53.45 | weissi | dorel_, you can remove single packages (as you did it), but if other pkgs depend on them, `dpkg -r <pkg-name>` will complain and `apt-get remove <pkg-name>` will ask wheater to stop or to remove the other pkgs, too... |
| 10:53.47 | Amish | ? |
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| 10:54.17 | Garda | is there a free and portable nx client for windows? |
| 10:54.19 | dorel_ | weissi: ok cool |
| 10:54.27 | jmd_ | Aptitude::Suggests-Important doesn't seem an intuitive string to make it not install Reocmments. |
| 10:54.27 | peterS | Garda: uh, you're in #debian |
| 10:54.30 | petemc | Garda: yes, check nomachine.com |
| 10:54.30 | peterS | Garda: how should we know? |
| 10:55.05 | petemc | i have to use it in work.. |
| 10:55.24 | jm_ | This corresponds to the configuration option Aptitude::Recommends-Important |
| 10:55.27 | jm_ | ... |
| 10:55.44 | peterS | so what does "...and portable" mean in the context of "for windows"? this, while off-topic, intrigues me a bit |
| 10:55.58 | jmd_ | Well that's not what the man page says. |
| 10:56.01 | kblin | hm, how would I change the keyboard layout in a console? |
| 10:56.07 | peterS | !keymap |
| 10:56.07 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 10:56.09 | jm_ | yes, it's exactly what the man page says |
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| 10:56.36 | jmd_ | and does Aptitude::Recommends-Important mean that recommends package are important, or not important? |
| 10:56.42 | Garda | peterS: i mean so i can use it on a usb stick |
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| 10:56.55 | Garda | cos i can't install anything on the computers at uni |
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| 10:57.11 | peterS | Garda: ahh. I thought you meant the cross-platform kind of portable, which doesn't make much sense when you specify just one platform (: |
| 10:57.17 | Garda | the nomachine.com one needs to be installed |
| 10:57.40 | Garda | ohh yea, i see how mabey that could be confusing |
| 10:57.48 | sep | Garda, you can use the nomachine nx plugin it's a java client you can run in explorer on a windows with JRE |
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| 10:58.16 | Garda | cool, thanks sep. i'll go check it out |
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| 10:58.23 | mixter | hi! i'm trying to compile a kernel module but get this error: "cc1: error: code model 'kernel' not supported in the 32 bit mode". i got an em64t kernel. what could i do to compile this module? |
| 11:03.25 | kblin | yay |
| 11:03.36 | kblin | azerty layout is annoying :) |
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| 11:04.33 | duto | Hi i would like to add a directory in my path but permanent how to do this please |
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| 11:05.02 | cusco | hi... im using testing and I don't find the linux kernel headers |
| 11:05.06 | cusco | for my version |
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| 11:05.45 | jm_ | cusco: maybe they're hiding from you! |
| 11:05.49 | cusco | 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 11:05.52 | cusco | no really.. |
| 11:06.18 | cusco | apt-cache search headers |grep 386 |
| 11:06.26 | cusco | gives me a 2.4 kernel |
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| 11:08.15 | cusco | Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386 |
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| 11:10.04 | scytheman_ | cusco, try packages.debian.org |
| 11:10.42 | cusco | k |
| 11:11.39 | cusco | nothing |
| 11:11.46 | roxy_ | cusco: are you sure it is needed for 2.6.12 kernel ? |
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| 11:11.52 | cusco | yes |
| 11:12.03 | er_rapero_huevar | d donde sois |
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| 11:12.22 | cusco | !es |
| 11:12.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 11:13.16 | p1u70 | any know how to get mac lib headers? |
| 11:13.28 | netman1 | Hi All. How can I find out the upstream home page of a package? It isn't mentioned (at least not for iproute) on packages.d.o. |
| 11:13.29 | mixter | cusco: from packages.debian.org it seems like testing has moved on to 2.6.15 |
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| 11:13.40 | er_rapero_huevar | donde esta eso |
| 11:13.53 | cusco | mixter: yes I looked at thattoo but ther eis no 386 image |
| 11:13.54 | netman1 | plu70: package-dev |
| 11:13.57 | jm_ | netman1: read copyright file |
| 11:14.06 | netman1 | jm_: Thanks. |
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| 11:14.15 | Garda | er_rapero_huevar: dodo easter uno, to you too |
| 11:14.42 | paulsen | er_rapero_huevar |
| 11:14.44 | paulsen | !es |
| 11:14.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:14.49 | er_rapero_huevar | in spanish please |
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| 11:15.16 | mixter | cusco: i think that the next version of debian will require 486 cpu, so i guess that the "base kernel" will be linux-image-2.6.15-1-486 |
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| 11:15.51 | cusco | kk im installyng the new linux image |
| 11:15.53 | cusco | :/ |
| 11:16.07 | mixter | cusco: the linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 should work too if you have a ppro or newer cpu |
| 11:16.07 | cusco | not 486 lol |
| 11:16.09 | cusco | 686 |
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| 11:16.15 | liable | yeah, etch installer doesnt have -386 |
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| 11:16.35 | cusco | well its not the new testing installer I just used.. |
| 11:16.52 | cusco | well sorry.. |
| 11:16.53 | cusco | thanks |
| 11:16.57 | mixter | np |
| 11:17.09 | jm_ | liable: but ISO images do have i386 in the name |
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| 11:17.38 | liable | jm_: yeah, its still the 386 installer, just doesnt install a 386.. :) |
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| 11:17.52 | jm_ | liable: I suppose it is menioned in the manual |
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| 11:18.22 | liable | jm_: havent read it to tell the truth, i vaguely remember reading it in dwn iirc |
| 11:18.22 | ndee | how can I read the stderr? |
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| 11:18.41 | jm_ | Nearly all x86-based processors are supported; this includes AMD and VIA (former Cyrix) processors as well. Also the new processors like Athlon XP and Intel P4 Xeon are supported. However, Linux will not run on 286 or earlier processors. |
| 11:18.43 | menko | hi, what should I use to configure the printer settings if I'm using gutenprint through cups. Would changing the settings with say, gnome-cups , or gtklp, have effect if a program uses lp to print, or is it only if I call them to print directly? |
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| 11:18.47 | jm_ | not quite ;) |
| 11:18.48 | liable | jm_: but i just used it, and got a 486 |
| 11:19.33 | jm_ | menko: yeah it should work, setting it in ~/.lpoptions should work too |
| 11:19.41 | mixter | ndee: it will get printed too your screen as default. you could redirect like `./a.out 2> stderr-file` if youd like |
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| 11:19.58 | menko | execellent they seem to have edited that themselves, thanks for the help |
| 11:19.58 | liable | that reminds me, still got a printer to set up. |
| 11:20.08 | ndee | mixter: ok, thanks |
| 11:20.20 | jm_ | that reminds me, still have two laser printers to try and fix ;( |
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| 11:22.17 | cusco | flood attack |
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| 11:22.22 | liable | !ops loser |
| 11:22.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: loser |
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| 11:22.44 | vladkao | moron :-) |
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| 11:22.45 | azeem | oh man |
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| 11:22.52 | tuxipuxi | hiiiiiii christel |
| 11:22.57 | RichiH | azeem: heh, i was faster ;) |
| 11:23.07 | iLLf8d | guess he got a timeout |
| 11:23.08 | comsa | , |
| 11:23.11 | christel | hi hi tuxipuxi :) |
| 11:23.17 | azeem | RichiH: I got one! |
| 11:23.33 | RichiH | azeem: heh, fair enough |
| 11:24.06 | dimir | :-D |
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| 11:32.11 | liable | i like cups. 3 mins to install a network printer :) |
| 11:32.35 | liable | well, to connect to it anyway.. took me longer than that to set up the server... |
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| 11:35.48 | ootput | hello again christel |
| 11:36.13 | ootput | anyone know how I'd go about installing q3 demo for linux? |
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| 11:37.27 | joobie | Hi Guys.. Anyone played much with Apache Clustering? |
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| 11:37.53 | Nemoder | ootput: download the demo installer and run it? |
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| 11:38.07 | Marlun | Is Irssi not available in debian repositories? |
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| 11:38.18 | cahoot | Marlun: add -text |
| 11:38.30 | Eclipser | Marlun, yes |
| 11:38.42 | Eclipser | err |
| 11:38.46 | Eclipser | I mean it is there :p |
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| 11:39.15 | Marlun | :) ok |
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| 11:39.40 | mk_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:40.02 | Marlun | ah, I missed the irssi-text one ;) tanks |
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| 11:42.05 | prudhomm | Hi |
| 11:42.05 | prudhomm | anybody using g++ 4.1 and having extremely long compile times ? |
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| 11:43.09 | Marlun | I've not installed gnome yet so i'm only in the terminal, how can I change the resolution? Theres a big black gap/space at the top and bottom right now...I've done it before and written down what setting I need and I think I'm supposed to add it to /boot/grub/menu.1st but I'm not sure where in that file or how. |
| 11:43.31 | menko | hi, how do I configure the default options for a cups printer? And for which user does the configure in the cups webbased config tool change? Because I tried changing those, assuming it'd change the defaults for all users, but the defaults are different(even for root). |
| 11:43.49 | liable | Marlun: vga=XXX |
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| 11:44.03 | liable | Marlun: append it to the kernel line |
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| 11:44.29 | liable | Marlun: or better yet, add it to the kopt line, so all installed kernels will get passed the option |
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| 11:46.04 | cahoot | menko: what kind of options do you mean? |
| 11:46.20 | Marlun | liable: ok, thanks =) Will search for the kopt line, i remember now I did it with the kernal line before =) |
| 11:46.54 | menko | cahoot: like image type, color options eetc |
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| 11:48.56 | Marlun | liable: should I just add vga=5 for example, at the end of the kopt line that right now says "kopt=root=/dev/hda4 ro"? It's also commented and above it it says not to uncomment it so I guess I shouldn't =) |
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| 11:50.38 | liable | Marlun: yep, that line is used when update-grub is run |
| 11:50.48 | liable | and no, dont uncomment it. |
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| 11:51.34 | Marlun | great, thanks =) rebooting to test it. |
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| 11:52.11 | Marlun | or is update-grup something I should run? |
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| 11:53.33 | nix | is there a way to start tun devices from bootup? I know openVPN activates the tun interface without problem, but I can't just ifconfig tun0 up. |
| 11:53.35 | liable | Marlun: you can add the vga bit to your kernel line yourself, or run update-grub, and it should do it for you |
| 11:53.38 | szazxszep | hi. i need a driver for lexmark x1190 (printer and scanner). i am a very beginner. |
| 11:53.38 | menko | ok I've found running gtklp as root sets the defaults. I'm confused what that cups webbased config tool changes though... |
| 11:53.58 | cahoot | menko: I suspect it's the app that sends the job for printing that has different defaults - not cups per se |
| 11:54.00 | Marlun | yeah it worked now after running update-grub, thank you! =) |
| 11:54.10 | fluxdude | drwxr-sr-x paul/paul 0 2005-10-11 12:40:10 dbmail-2.1.3/ |
| 11:54.10 | fluxdude | drwxr-sr-x paul/paul 0 2005-10-11 12:38:46 dbmail-2.1.3/python/ |
| 11:54.10 | fluxdude | drwxr-sr-x paul/paul 0 2005-10-11 12:38:46 dbmail-2.1.3/python/lib/ |
| 11:54.10 | fluxdude | -rw-r--r-- paul/paul 9453 2005-10-03 10:19:35 dbmail-2.1.3/python/lib/dbmai |
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| 11:54.16 | blondie | bye |
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| 11:54.27 | blondie | fail |
| 11:54.32 | nix | !tell fluxdude about paste |
| 11:54.34 | Ronin | you think theyd leard |
| 11:54.41 | menko | cahoot: but it uses the lpoptions file in /etc/cups and ~/ (for non root) |
| 11:54.46 | Ronin | learn even |
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| 11:54.57 | fluxdude | sorry, sorry, i was trying to paste something else but that was the last thing in the buffer... |
| 11:55.09 | menko | cahoot: which I assume is the cups standard options files |
| 11:55.11 | cklaus | hi all.. anybody knows a way to programmatically (bashscript) change a users password on debian ? |
| 11:55.18 | fluxdude | Was going to say: apt-get source kernel-image-2.6-386 is broken in STABLE!!! |
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| 11:55.56 | Diocles | cklaus: Look at usermod, perhaps. |
| 11:56.02 | blondie | fluxdude: you mean it's broken on your machine |
| 11:56.03 | fluxdude | see thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=3245635 for details... |
| 11:56.15 | liable | fluxdude: erm, you apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.X |
| 11:56.25 | cklaus | Diocles, did so.. but it only changes the pw in /etc/shadow.. and needs the input as returned by crypt() -.- |
| 11:56.40 | mahatma | hello; using debian stable I'm unable to print in epiphany, but evolution works ok. Any pointers as to what I can try? |
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| 11:56.41 | fluxdude | no, i want to get src cos deb kern doesn't have raid compiled in, only mod therefore raid doesn't mount at boot... |
| 11:57.06 | Diocles | cklaus: Is that a problem? Crypt the password, and feed to usermod. ;) I've got some Perl scripts that do it. |
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| 11:57.34 | liable | fluxdude: there is no such thing as kernel-source-386, as you configure it in the source.. |
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| 11:58.03 | cklaus | Diocles, it is a bit ,) as im actually using nis.. which orientates itself at passwd |
| 11:58.26 | Diocles | cklaus: And you don't want it interactive? |
| 11:58.33 | fluxdude | apt-get source is supposed to fetch source for a package and put it in the current dir, but instead of getting the 50 odd megs i get only a few kbs and it thinks that's all there is, it works in testing branch, see thread I mentioned... |
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| 11:59.01 | azeem | fluxdude: maybe the rest is already downloaded? |
| 11:59.12 | cklaus | nope.. im not allowed to.. customer has some grml script to do it from within his intranet.. and he cant be persuaded that this is actually a bad idea |
| 11:59.12 | fluxdude | liable: it will find the underlying source tar used to build that pkg |
| 11:59.15 | azeem | fluxdude: or you try to download a meta package |
| 11:59.26 | azeem | fluxdude: which source package do you try to download? |
| 11:59.38 | fluxdude | azeem: I don't think so, see thread address given above |
| 11:59.49 | fluxdude | kernel-source-2.6 |
| 11:59.57 | liable | fluxdude: um, why are you pointing us to a gentoo forum? |
| 12:00.09 | Diocles | cklaus: Ahh, I see. |
| 12:00.09 | cklaus | Diocles, nope.. im not allowed to.. customer has some grml script to do it from within his intranet.. and he cant be persuaded that this is actually a bad idea |
| 12:00.29 | cklaus | Diocles, ,) |
| 12:00.29 | azeem | fluxdude: that gentoo forum thread is about different UIDs |
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| 12:00.54 | liable | fluxdude: just apt-get kernel-source-2.6.8 and compile it.. |
| 12:01.02 | liable | install^^ |
| 12:01.33 | fluxdude | serious appologies, things aren't going well today and it's gonna be at least a 13 hour day!!! :-/ |
| 12:01.41 | fluxdude | the real thread is http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=17408 |
| 12:02.30 | azeem | fluxdude: as I said, you probably download source of a meta package |
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| 12:02.46 | azeem | fluxdude: run apt-cache showsrc <package>, the file sizes are specified there |
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| 12:03.19 | azeem | "kernel-latest-2.6-i386" is/was just an empty package with a Depends: on the real one |
| 12:03.41 | Diocles | cklaus: yeah, it looks tricky. |
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| 12:04.39 | Diocles | cklaus: I found one solution using "expect" to script passwd. |
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| 12:06.47 | jm_ | cklaus: and chpasswd doesn't work? |
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| 12:07.18 | fluxdude | i'm not used to compiling on debian beyond plain tar.gz and was wondering how I would do this generically then, perhaps the kernel package is a of bit tricky example, anyway I apt-get installed the kernel source, but you can't do that for all pkgs |
| 12:07.55 | fluxdude | is apt-get source packagename the right way to do this in general? |
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| 12:09.14 | jm_ | ye |
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| 12:10.52 | avtobiff | fluxdude, perhaps you may want to look at apt-build |
| 12:15.28 | nix | argh. why can't i create tunX devices. its damn well compiled into the kernel. |
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| 12:18.12 | fluxdude | avtobiff: thanks, apt-getting it now and will man when downloaded... |
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| 12:18.46 | fluxdude | does anybody know what the difference is between the debian kernel and a vanilla kernel? What do the deb patches give us? |
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| 12:20.02 | fluxdude | i've downloaded a .16 vanilla and a .8 from debian's latest stable kernel source but I don't know which would be better, I'd guess the .16 since it's a lot newer, but i don't know what's I'd be missing from the debian patches... |
| 12:20.25 | fluxdude | i know both would work, i just what debian have added to their kernel... |
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| 12:20.38 | cahoot | fluxdude: try at packages.debian.org - read the changelog |
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| 12:22.44 | fluxdude | cahoot: can't see anything important on this page http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kernel-latest-2.6-i386/kernel-latest-2.6-i386_101sarge1/changelog |
| 12:23.41 | jm_ | /usr/share/doc/kernel-image-blabla might have a word about it |
| 12:23.48 | jm_ | or two |
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| 12:24.43 | tijn | last time i checked, there where 3 |
| 12:24.48 | netman1 | nix: ping |
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| 12:25.04 | RedNinja- | How can I install vnc? |
| 12:25.06 | nix | netman1: ? |
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| 12:25.39 | netman1 | nix: at the same point as you. combine forces? |
| 12:26.16 | nix | netman1: #openvpn |
| 12:26.23 | netman1 | nix: ok. |
| 12:26.27 | cklaus | Diocles, found that solution too.. though i thought there must be an easier way.. |
| 12:26.49 | cklaus | jm_, chpasswd works by principle.. sadly it only updates /etc/shadow |
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| 12:27.36 | liable | RedNinja-: with apt-get? |
| 12:27.51 | jm_ | cklaus: what's your point? do things that work without any principle work better? |
| 12:28.03 | RedNinja- | yes thanks |
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| 12:29.43 | cklaus | jm_, naaa ,) well i chose wrong words, i guess.. i just meant, it just works the way id like it to work.. (reading passes from stdin), but it updates the wrong file.. |
| 12:30.29 | jm_ | cklaus: ohh, you can synchronize shadow passwords using pwconv |
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| 12:31.09 | humboldt | does anybody have any idea what could be the reason my Skype gets disconnected about every minute? This does not seem to be a problem with skype but with some other service interfering. Unfortunately it appears via either LAN and WLAN connection. Any Ideas? |
| 12:31.15 | cklaus | jm_, oh nice.. ill have a look at it .. thank you |
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| 12:33.17 | afd_ | hi! I wonder if anyone can help with this situation: I have a lan with a server inside, protected by a firewall. On the server I have mail + www + dns. The problem is that the clients on the lan cannot connect properly to the names, like mail.myhost.com, they need to enter the IP. I figgured I need to run a dns caching service, and use that address for them, but is there a guide to configuring bind to server different host file, according to the acl? |
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| 12:33.37 | petemc | afd_: read up on "views" |
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| 12:34.07 | jm_ | or you could simply run some simple DNS server for LAN, such as dnsmasq |
| 12:34.12 | afd_ | petemc: thanks |
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| 12:34.49 | lewis222 | I am looking for a perl/bash script to parse my apache access.log (which has virtualhost info in it), and return a list of domains, and the amount of bandwidth that they have used in the last week. Could anyone point me in the right direction? I have already looked at webalizer/awstats/awk, and I am not interested in graphs. |
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| 12:35.15 | afd_ | cool, just what I need |
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| 12:37.13 | sep | lewis222, whats wrong with awk ? |
| 12:37.28 | zardiz | lewis222: what is life without graphs? |
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| 12:37.54 | thefish_ | knoppix = good ? |
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| 12:38.16 | Ronin | thefish_: depends on what you want |
| 12:38.43 | thefish_ | networking, nice desktop |
| 12:38.49 | lewis222 | sep: well, if you could point me in the right direction with awk, I'll be impressed and grateful |
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| 12:39.12 | petemc | thefish_: try it out yourself, or ask #knoppix - its off topic for this channel |
| 12:39.16 | Ronin | yep it will do that, its actually a nice live cd |
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| 12:39.19 | thefish_ | ok |
| 12:39.23 | Ronin | but go debian or stay home i say |
| 12:39.28 | thefish_ | i thought it was based on debian? |
| 12:39.35 | petemc | !based on debian |
| 12:39.35 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 12:39.40 | Ronin | it is but but based on doesnt mean it is |
| 12:39.55 | thefish_ | fair enough ok I'll shut up thx :) |
| 12:39.56 | lewis222 | sep: can awk process a large log file, grab two elements from each line, organize the 1st element uniquely (virtualhost), and add all of the 2nd elements (data)? |
| 12:40.16 | jm_ | lewis222: I'd say awk is ideal for the job since it supports associative arrays, so traffic[virthost] += $1; or somesuch |
| 12:40.22 | pack | what's the shot that updating X.org last week caused my monitor to start whining this week? |
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| 12:41.18 | lewis222 | jm_: I have been looking for some previous examples on google for a while, and I am shocked that no one has ever had the same need that I do, to see the virtualhost weekly/monthly traffic in text form |
| 12:41.50 | sep | lewis222, i'd put it in the logrotate script. that way you get1 report for each log, simplifies things for you a bit. |
| 12:41.50 | jm_ | lewis222: it's 5-10 minute job, so I guess everyone has his/her own script |
| 12:43.03 | sep | lewis222, jm_ either that, or they have separate logs becouse the different virtualhosts wan't their own fancy awstats |
| 12:43.42 | Shadowcat | anyone have a problem with the init scripts not configuring eth0 with etch beta 2? |
| 12:44.14 | petemc | Shadowcat: you have it set to "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 12:44.57 | Shadowcat | thanks petemc |
| 12:45.01 | Shadowcat | that seemed to have fixed it |
| 12:45.07 | Shadowcat | I shouldn't have to do that manually though |
| 12:45.08 | jm_ | fixed it? no :) |
| 12:45.48 | lewis222 | putting it in the logrotate script sounds good to me. I already have awstats, but I need to log in/out to see all of the various virtualhost stats, and I don't care about the graphs. |
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| 12:48.33 | bliss1_ | hi |
| 12:48.44 | tijn | hey |
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| 12:50.22 | Shadowcat | hmm what are the mouse theme packages in debian called? |
| 12:50.34 | bunj | Does bison offer an %include command or something like that, so I can put the lexer, for example, in a separate source file and include it from within another file? |
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| 12:51.36 | bliss1_ | I diabled legacy USB in BIOS because I two liux boxses with 2.6 kernel and now i use my labtop keypad in both, the only problem is that when I reboot the screen goes blank but does not rboot I use unplug power source at the back of labtop? |
| 12:51.44 | stoffell | to connect to a checkpoint firewall (site-to-site), is the openswan package of debian recommended? |
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| 12:53.59 | lewis222 | jm_: wow - I've created a great command - which is only half useful: 'cat access.log | awk -F " " {'print $1'} | sort | uniq' |
| 12:54.49 | lewis222 | now I just need to remove the www before certain domains, pull the data, and add it all up! |
| 12:55.14 | jm_ | lewis222: -F " " is default, the rest is probably trivial too but I don't know how your logs look like |
| 12:55.26 | oskie | why is 'microsoft.com' first hit when you search for 'http' on google? |
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| 12:56.43 | lewis222 | jm_: so it is. the virtualhost is the first thing in the line. just finding out where in the line the size is |
| 12:56.58 | jm_ | lewis222: $1 it is then |
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| 12:57.43 | uv_ | hello, whilde running apt-get upgreade on my testing system ive got Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb ... reading furhter up it says : trying to overwrite `/usr/include/X11', which is also in package libxft-dev |
| 12:57.43 | uv_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.44 | uv_ | ? |
| 12:57.59 | jm_ | uv_: check BTS |
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| 12:58.26 | lewis222 | LogFormat "%v %h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined |
| 12:58.29 | uv_ | jm_, BTS ? |
| 12:58.35 | jm_ | !+bts |
| 12:58.35 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 12:59.08 | jm_ | I don't know what those values represent, real example would be more useful |
| 12:59.31 | liable | bliss1_: does your box use acpi or apm? and are the appropriate modules loaded? |
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| 12:59.54 | lewis222 | jm_: field 8 is bytes (i.e %b) - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/mod_log_config.html |
| 13:00.12 | jm_ | lewis222: yeah I know where to look, but can't be arsed |
| 13:00.21 | mixter | hi! i just added backports.org to /etc/apt/sources.list... i just want to install one single package (the kernel source for 2.6.15) but now apt wan't to upgrade a lot of things. how could i make apt understand i don't want to use backports unless i specifically say so (with -t to apt-get)? |
| 13:00.30 | lewis222 | jm_: didn't mean to come off rude |
| 13:01.13 | liable | mixter: did you read the instructions on the backports home page? |
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| 13:02.04 | [T]valmet | how do i run a .run file? |
| 13:02.15 | mixter | liable: yes... i just added lines to sources.list, but not to /etc/apt/preferences... |
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| 13:02.31 | bliss1_ | liable thanks for your help, I solved the install problem we had on saturday I diableing USB legacy. as for acpi or apm I am not in that box just now but I can check later |
| 13:02.34 | liable | mixter: doesnt it mention apt preferences? |
| 13:02.40 | mixter | liable: and now i read again... and got enlighted... missed a part of the text :-/ thanks! :-) |
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| 13:02.47 | liable | :) |
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| 13:03.19 | liable | bliss1_: glad you got it fixed. |
| 13:03.26 | Cybodog | howdy, I am trying to set alternatives for bittorent and just can't seem to get the command right and man alternatives is not good. What do I need? |
| 13:03.58 | Rhizome | To give us more info :) |
| 13:04.00 | Cybodog | I do this so seldom, just can't remember what it is. |
| 13:04.24 | Cybodog | set the alternative apps in /etc/alternatives, there is a cli for doing that |
| 13:04.33 | jm_ | lewis222: awk '{totals[$1] += $8;} END {for (h in totals) printf("%s: %d\n", h, totals[h]);}' |
| 13:04.46 | bliss1_ | liable: in my sarge box I have no X and just wondered how many here do not use X |
| 13:05.10 | [T]valmet | anyone wanna help me with how to open a .run file? if i goolge ".run" it finds all with "run" and thats alot =/ |
| 13:05.18 | uv_ | thanks |
| 13:05.25 | liable | bliss1_: lots of people dont have x, those that run servers. |
| 13:05.28 | FauxFaux | [T]valmet: sh file.run |
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| 13:05.31 | Rhizome | uhm, probably every fifth of my boxes has no X, but then again their servers :P |
| 13:05.48 | Rhizome | sometimes X just for vnc |
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| 13:05.50 | [T]valmet | FauxFaux: ok thanks :) |
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| 13:06.07 | lewis222 | jm_: processing... |
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| 13:06.52 | Rhizome | If you don't use X on the system you use all the time, well have fun :P |
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| 13:07.22 | Cybodog | ahhh! found it! update-alternatives --set apptypehere /path/to/exe |
| 13:07.22 | bliss1_ | liable: do you use lynx ? |
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| 13:08.08 | liable | bliss1_: not if i can help it. :) |
| 13:08.14 | lewis222 | jm_: I get a list of domains, with, 'domain.com: 0', for the majority, although one of the domains has a non-zero number |
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| 13:08.28 | jm_ | lewis222: then it's not $8 for bytes |
| 13:08.33 | sorsis | bliss1_: i would recommend to use links. more developed. |
| 13:08.40 | bliss1_ | liable: elinks. w3m um? |
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| 13:09.13 | Rhizome | What do you need a console browser for? only time I use lynx is when it's faster to grab a link than elsewhere(ie kernel.org) |
| 13:09.21 | jm_ | lewis222: ohh %r is probably screwing it up |
| 13:09.22 | liable | no. i like to use an x browser for surfing the web |
| 13:09.31 | lewis222 | ooh - what's that? |
| 13:10.04 | amee2k | what is /var/lib/apt/lists directory used for? |
| 13:10.07 | jm_ | no idea, but I see it's mentioned in "" so it probably means it can contain spaces |
| 13:10.16 | bliss1_ | liable: i am to install Xen 3.1 with sarge |
| 13:10.23 | Silent_al | hello,when i try to install some stuff on a 9GB partition, or even when trying to D\L to that partition big sized files..fsck.vfat gave me >Logical sector size is zero. what is that mean? how can i fix this? |
| 13:10.31 | lewis222 | sorry - where is it mentioned? |
| 13:10.35 | Rhizome | amee2k: info about installed packages. check the .list files for a list of all installed files in that package. |
| 13:10.39 | jm_ | in your LogFormat ;) |
| 13:11.11 | Silent_al | *i get a "no space left" message |
| 13:11.13 | lewis222 | ah - referrer - and yes it does |
| 13:11.16 | Eclipser | urf |
| 13:11.19 | Eclipser | this sucks++ |
| 13:11.22 | lewis222 | www.domain.com 123.123.123.123 - - [09/Apr/2006:07:22:55 +0100] "GET /page.htm HTTP/1.1" 200 7039 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)" |
| 13:11.26 | Rhizome | amee2k: uhm, sorry, it's just the files gotten wehn you do apt-get update :P |
| 13:11.35 | Eclipser | my firefox doesn't go to an URL if I middle click paste an url to it anymore |
| 13:11.42 | lewis222 | I think 7039 is the number of bytes. |
| 13:11.46 | jm_ | Eclipser: that's an option in preferences |
| 13:11.49 | jm_ | yeah it is |
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| 13:12.21 | lewis222 | we could call it field 11, if all the other spacing beforehand remains constant? |
| 13:12.41 | lewis222 | :D |
| 13:12.44 | jm_ | lewis222: no, timestamp is problematic too |
| 13:12.47 | Eclipser | jm_, let me see |
| 13:13.03 | lewis222 | why would ths spacing alter there? |
| 13:13.21 | amee2k | hm... ty |
| 13:13.23 | lewis222 | (fyi, I ran it with field $11, and got fantastic results) |
| 13:13.56 | jm_ | lewis222: well it would probably remain the same unless someone tweaked options |
| 13:14.12 | lewis222 | an end-user, or the apache config? |
| 13:14.41 | jm_ | apache config |
| 13:14.46 | lewis222 | ah ok |
| 13:15.17 | lewis222 | well, I am very happy with the results - the only thing I/we need to work out, is how to remove domain duplicates, which currently appear as domain.com AND www.domain.com - is that simple? |
| 13:15.17 | Eclipser | jm_, ah, found it from about:config, thanks :> |
| 13:15.39 | lewis222 | jm_: and by the way, thank you very much as always, and for your help last week |
| 13:16.32 | jm_ | lewis222: do you always want to remove www. ? |
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| 13:18.01 | lewis222 | yes - but ideally, combine the 'byte totals' |
| 13:18.05 | jm_ | lewis222: awk '{d=$1;sub(/^www\./,"",d);totals[d] += $8;} END {for (h in totals) printf("%s: %d\n", h, totals[h]);}' |
| 13:18.14 | lewis222 | wow |
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| 13:18.23 | jm_ | it would be better to rewrite it in Perl if you want more modifications |
| 13:18.34 | jm_ | change $8 again |
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| 13:18.53 | bliss1_ | liable: whats the debian paste page ? |
| 13:18.59 | jm_ | bliss1_: /msg dpkg paste |
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| 13:19.47 | lewis222 | jm_: following command works like a dream: cat access.log | awk '{d=$1;sub(/^www\./,"",d);totals[d] += $11;} END {for (h in totals) printf("%s: %d\n", h, totals[h]);}' | sort |
| 13:19.56 | RichiH | hmm, any idea how i can access .eu's whois info by command line? |
| 13:20.04 | lewis222 | if I had kept hitting random keys, after a few years, I would have got that |
| 13:20.58 | jm_ | lewis222: hmm similar experiment done in UK with monkeys didn't result in anything useful :) |
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| 13:21.52 | Thumann | hi all, regarding webhosting... cpanel.. and ensim.. any good alternatives, free maybe? |
| 13:21.57 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 13:21.57 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 13:22.12 | a-atwood | jm_, however, experiments with psychologists have shown promise, since they are much more random. |
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| 13:23.26 | lewis222 | jm_: is number alteration possible with awk, like dividing 'totals[h]' by 1024? |
| 13:23.28 | jm_ | a-atwood: as in psychologists instead of monkeys? :P |
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| 13:23.52 | jm_ | lewis222: sure, you can do whatever you want, say change %d to %.2f and then totals[h]/1024 |
| 13:23.55 | a-atwood | jm_, exactly. 8) |
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| 13:24.28 | jm_ | or keep it %d if you don't care about .123 |
| 13:24.45 | bliss1_ | jm_ is there a url lease |
| 13:24.56 | bliss1_ | please |
| 13:24.59 | jm_ | bliss1_: what do you mean? |
| 13:25.21 | jm_ | bliss1_: dpkg will tell you if you ask -- "/msg dpkg paste", but you can use any pastebin you want and paste the link |
| 13:25.44 | Silent_al | dudes,when i try to install some stuff on a 9GB fat partition, or even when trying to D\L to that partition big sized files.,i get a "no space left" message.fsck.vfat gave me >Logical sector size is zero. what is that mean? how can i fix this?any leads please? |
| 13:25.46 | bliss1_ | jm_ ok |
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| 13:26.23 | jm_ | Silent_al: are you aware that you can't store files > 4G on fat32 partition? |
| 13:26.31 | debmad | hello everybody |
| 13:27.16 | Silent_al | jm_,yup,but what im trying to install is only 500MB.. and i got 1GB of free space on that partition |
| 13:27.24 | bliss1_ | dpkg: tell bliss1_ about pastebin |
| 13:27.30 | jm_ | Silent_al: then it might be corrupted |
| 13:27.36 | stew | bliss1_: you can /msg the bot |
| 13:27.40 | jm_ | !tell bliss1_ -about paste |
| 13:27.52 | lewis222 | jm |
| 13:28.05 | lewis222 | I now get: domain.com 123.001M :D |
| 13:28.08 | Silent_al | jm_, meaning,something that fsck cant fix? |
| 13:28.18 | debmad | I'm trying to install debian on VmWare machine and at the very beggining it tells me that no hards disks were detected. Does anybody know what can it be due to? |
| 13:28.21 | jm_ | Silent_al: who knows :) |
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| 13:29.44 | lewis222 | to show the 5th field on the first line of a file... |
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| 13:30.00 | Stereo | lewis222: awk? |
| 13:30.12 | lewis222 | but would you use the head command |
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| 13:30.38 | jm_ | you don't need to use head command, you can use 1 as sed address or if ($NR == 1) in awk |
| 13:32.42 | jm_ | not $NR but NR alone |
| 13:33.13 | lewis222 | processing |
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| 13:36.18 | lewis222 | while I process on that, is it ever a good idea to use 'print' to display test in the shell, instead of echo? |
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| 13:37.21 | sep | anyone know what would replace woody's php4-apc in sarge ? |
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| 13:38.25 | sep | debmad, iirc there are 2 scsi emulation you can choose between in vmware, use the other one |
| 13:38.47 | lewis222 | theoretically, if there was to be a problem with: cat access.log | awk 'NR == 1' {'print $5'}, what would it be? |
| 13:39.20 | stew | lewis222: you want awk 'NR==1 {print $5}' |
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| 13:39.32 | lewis222 | ah |
| 13:39.35 | stew | and uuoc |
| 13:39.49 | vernom | someone knows a DC++ clietn for console??? |
| 13:39.54 | lewis222 | I do indeed - was just a theoretical question ;) |
| 13:41.07 | lewis222 | why is there a new line after: echo "comment" ? |
| 13:41.32 | stew | lewis222: echo -n "comment" |
| 13:43.13 | lewis222 | awk 'NR==1 {print $5,"]"}' |
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| 13:43.24 | lewis222 | oops - wheer is there a space in the output of $5 and ]? |
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| 13:43.35 | lewis222 | and I meant 'please could you tell me why' |
| 13:44.03 | stew | lewis222: becuase you used a , instead of a space between the fields |
| 13:44.05 | meneg | on sid and firefox I can use network.protocol-handler.app.mailto but if I add a new protocol it is ignored. why? |
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| 13:45.52 | lewis222 | guys - well, here is my final script. I think it would be very helpful to many people. It lists all of your virtualhost domains from access.log in a list, with the number of megabytes of traffic since the log started, and lists the log start date at the bottom. http://pastebin.com/651304 |
| 13:46.12 | Bummao | hey guys, i need help with lvm if possible. I have messed up a bit, i had 3 logical volumes /var / and /home, i ended up using lvresize and reducing /home, and then used lvresize to then extend var, and used ext2online to resize the /var partition, i forgot to resize /home and now i'm getting input output errors on it, as basically the partition is bigger than the volume it is contained in |
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| 13:46.58 | Bummao | i need to somehow resize /home so it is the same size as the volume, but if there's errors on the disk how easy is this to do? |
| 13:47.05 | fireba11 | hm ... how to get total physical ram ? free shows 2831380 KB ... and that's an odd number ^^ |
| 13:47.23 | abrotman | why is that odd? |
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| 13:47.36 | stew | abrotman: its not divisible by 2 |
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| 13:47.45 | abrotman | fireba11: are you looking under 'Total' or used/free? |
| 13:47.49 | abrotman | stew: it's not? |
| 13:47.53 | abrotman | !2831380/2 |
| 13:47.54 | dpkg | 1415690 |
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| 13:47.57 | stew | abrotman: no idea then |
| 13:47.59 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 13:48.06 | fireba11 | abrotman: what memory modules should that be ? it's too much for 2.5 GB and to few for 3 GB |
| 13:48.20 | fireba11 | abrotman: total |
| 13:48.44 | abrotman | !(2.5*1024) |
| 13:48.44 | dpkg | 2560 |
| 13:48.50 | abrotman | !(2.5*1024)*1024 |
| 13:48.50 | dpkg | 2621440 |
| 13:48.52 | abrotman | bah |
| 13:49.10 | abrotman | fireba11: check in dmesg ? |
| 13:49.44 | abrotman | fireba11: dmesg | grep Memory |
| 13:49.47 | fireba11 | abrotman: please tell me how |
| 13:49.50 | fireba11 | thanks |
| 13:49.59 | stew | fireba11: cat /proc/meminfo |
| 13:50.28 | abrotman | that's another way |
| 13:50.28 | fireba11 | stew that shows the same number |
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| 13:50.40 | abrotman | fireba11: and you probably have an AGP machine? |
| 13:50.40 | Bummao | hmm anyone got any ideas :(? |
| 13:50.49 | abrotman | fireba11: and you're probably using PAE |
| 13:50.58 | fireba11 | abrotman: hm .. i think .. does it cut off memory somewhere because of that ? |
| 13:51.17 | abrotman | "that" meaning pae or agp ? |
| 13:51.26 | fireba11 | agp .. dunno about pae |
| 13:51.39 | abrotman | yes .. it will take some for agp .. and PAE also |
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| 13:52.46 | bliss1_ | hi again |
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| 13:53.16 | bliss1_ | just need to know which address to place in address section see http://pastebin.ca/48880 thanks |
| 13:53.44 | fireba11 | abrotman: any way to fix that ? it shouldn't reserve memory for that i think |
| 13:54.00 | abrotman | bliss1_: how could we know your network well enough to assign you an IP ? |
| 13:54.07 | abrotman | fireba11: for AGP or for PAE ? |
| 13:54.20 | fireba11 | fpr agp |
| 13:54.23 | fireba11 | for |
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| 13:55.11 | bliss1_ | abrotman: so its the router address its my static ip address |
| 13:55.26 | abrotman | fireba11: you might be able to to change it in the BIOS .. or pass a mem=####### to the kernel |
| 13:55.33 | bliss1_ | abortmannot my router address |
| 13:55.43 | abrotman | bliss1_: why aren't you using DHCP? |
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| 13:56.26 | Stereo | if there's only one serial port at the back of a box, will it always be /dev/ttyS0 ? |
| 13:56.53 | bliss1_ | abrotman: I am this iswhats confusing me iit says not by DHCP but by static ip address? |
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| 13:57.22 | abrotman | bliss1_: does your router give out DHCP addresses ? |
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| 13:57.55 | bliss1_ | abrotman: is a static ip address via a router |
| 13:58.20 | abrotman | bliss1_: ok ... so did your admin tell you to use 0.100 for your IP ? |
| 13:58.31 | abrotman | Stereo: not 100% of the time .. |
| 13:58.36 | abrotman | stereo: but usually |
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| 13:59.30 | bliss1_ | abrotman: no the actual static ip from ISP is 82 etc its here when I log in |
| 13:59.41 | abrotman | bliss1_: what kind of router do you have? |
| 13:59.43 | fireba11 | abrotman: so i might have to force memory size to be able to use all ? |
| 13:59.53 | abrotman | fireba11: how much is AGP using? |
| 14:00.10 | bliss1_ | abrotman linksys |
| 14:00.17 | fireba11 | seems like 256 MB |
| 14:00.58 | abrotman | bliss1_: so use DHCP .. it will probably work way way better(unless you intend using this machine for a server) |
| 14:01.13 | abrotman | fireba11: is this machine even running X ? |
| 14:01.21 | fireba11 | abrotman: yes |
| 14:01.45 | abrotman | fireba11: check the X log .. it will say how much it's using .. |
| 14:01.49 | fireba11 | abrotman: but to my knowledge the bios setting should only set maximum size .. not reserce that memory ? |
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| 14:01.55 | fireba11 | reserve |
| 14:02.00 | abrotman | fireba11: check the BIOS .. yiou may be able to change how much it takes |
| 14:02.07 | bliss1_ | abortman: yes its going to be a server as the pastebin says |
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| 14:02.24 | abrotman | bliss1_: are you IRCing from that machine right onhw ? |
| 14:02.27 | abrotman | now? |
| 14:02.38 | bliss1_ | abrotman; no |
| 14:02.49 | abrotman | bliss1_: how many machines are on your network ? |
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| 14:03.13 | bliss1_ | abrotman; yes sorry but on a diffrent partition ( |
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| 14:03.48 | Stereo | so, how would you test to see if, say, there's an UPS on that serial port if nut says it can't communicate with it? |
| 14:03.49 | mixter | aargh! why can't i compile my modules. i'm getting the error "code model 'kernel' not supported in the 32 bit mode". i've tried different solutions for several days now :-/ does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 14:04.21 | Stereo | something like stty -F /dev/ttyS0 -a ? |
| 14:04.44 | vin` | mixter: is that the only error? |
| 14:05.19 | nix | hmm. which package contains the 'ip' tool? "/msg dpkg find /ip" doesnt come up with it. iirc it was iptools2 package but its not in sarge |
| 14:05.30 | faljse | iproute2 |
| 14:05.32 | petemc | nix: ip route |
| 14:05.37 | petemc | iproute |
| 14:05.40 | nix | ah right, route. thx:) |
| 14:05.50 | mixter | vin`: yes... i have a em64t-kernel (the one packaged with debian) and i try to compile a module for e1000 (the one in the kernel is too old). the compiliation fails with that errormessage |
| 14:06.03 | petemc | damn muscle memory |
| 14:06.27 | mixter | vin`: i think that gcc have problems compiling for 64 kernel when in 32 bit userland, but i don't know what to do about it |
| 14:07.36 | vin` | mixter: try #debian-amd64 |
| 14:08.03 | mixter | vin`: ah! thanks! didn't know there was a channel for that |
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| 14:12.01 | marlun | Is there a text-based msn client? |
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| 14:12.20 | lewis222 | I have a script which I want to run every time the apache logs rotate. I can put it in the 'prerotate' section of /etc/logrotate.d/apache, but is there any way I can have a naming convention? i.e. in the section having: /home/user/script_name > /home/user/output/day-month-year.log |
| 14:12.35 | bliss1_ | vin`whats up |
| 14:13.13 | vin` | bliss1_: not much, you? |
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| 14:13.48 | bliss1_ | vin` ok nice day here sun is out |
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| 14:15.06 | bliss1_ | abrotman: hi still here |
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| 14:15.25 | abrotman | bliss1_: what IP does the box you are on have? |
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| 14:16.29 | cptahab | I can't figure this one out: why are (physical) network interfaces not listed in /dev? |
| 14:17.19 | marlun | Can't seem to find a text-based msn client by searching the repositories =/ |
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| 14:17.58 | bliss1_ | abortman: the router IP is 192.168.1.64 he static ip from my ISP is 88.96.109.78 |
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| 14:18.38 | abrotman | bliss1_: no .. the machine you're IRCing from |
| 14:18.47 | abrotman | cptahab: they never have been afaik |
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| 14:19.16 | lewis222 | clear |
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| 14:19.18 | vin` | marlun: bitlbee? |
| 14:19.30 | chemaja | i'm using gaim v1.5.1cvs (from etch), and i just blocked a buddy, but i can't unblock the buddy, even if i remove re-add the buddy to my buddy list. what gives? |
| 14:19.31 | lewis222 | oops - what are the global variables in bash for date? |
| 14:19.43 | abrotman | #bash ? |
| 14:19.56 | abrotman | chemaja: #gaim |
| 14:19.59 | bliss1_ | abortman: 88.96.109.78 |
| 14:20.05 | chemaja | abrotman, thanks. |
| 14:20.13 | abrotman | bliss1_: your machine is directly on the internet? |
| 14:20.22 | marlun | vin`: thanks I'll look into it, don't understand how it works by reading what apt-cache show tells me :) |
| 14:20.34 | cptahab | abrotman: That's my impression too... I'm trying to find out the specific reason |
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| 14:20.42 | abrotman | cptahab: ask #kernel .. |
| 14:20.50 | cptahab | abrotman: Thanks, I will! |
| 14:20.59 | vin` | marlun: haven't tried it, iirc you can make it work with irssi. |
| 14:21.03 | abrotman | cptahab: i don't know why it is that way .. but afaik .. they've never been in /dev/ |
| 14:21.12 | bliss1_ | abortman: yes via the router I am sorry you have lost me look at http://pastebin.ca/48880 |
| 14:21.25 | chemaja | abrotman, they can't help because I'm running the CVS version. |
| 14:21.26 | chemaja | :( |
| 14:21.39 | abrotman | chemaja: that's what they said? |
| 14:21.58 | chemaja | abrotman, their /topic said it |
| 14:22.01 | abrotman | bliss1_: what OS are you IRCing from? |
| 14:22.08 | chemaja | Topic for #gaim is: Before you do anything, make sure you're using 1.5.0 -- NOT CVS |
| 14:22.10 | chemaja | ... |
| 14:22.12 | Coweater | chemaja: look back |
| 14:22.25 | chemaja | Coweater, just saw it :) |
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| 14:22.46 | abrotman | gaim sucks .. we should all use the official AIM client from AOL .. that is more outdated than potato |
| 14:22.58 | bliss1_ | abortman: its does not matter but the partition where the question relates to is sarge |
| 14:23.00 | abrotman | bliss1_: you're on windows? |
| 14:23.02 | Coweater | 1.5.1 is just an added patch that fixes rate limiting, but it didn't warrant a release |
| 14:23.05 | abrotman | bliss1_: actually IT DOES |
| 14:23.16 | abrotman | bliss1_: do you know how to configure your router? |
| 14:23.19 | marlun | vin`: iirc? |
| 14:23.24 | abrotman | !iirc |
| 14:23.24 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 14:23.38 | marlun | ah ;P |
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| 14:24.29 | stray_ | !hrm |
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| 14:24.45 | bliss1_ | abortman: router is configured fine I hope, but you make have a point it is cnfigured for dhcp at moment |
| 14:25.01 | abrotman | bliss1_: i bet your router uses 100-199 for DHCP |
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| 14:25.23 | abrotman | bliss1_: so please double check .. and if necessary .. configure debian to use a non-dhcp address |
| 14:25.24 | bliss1_ | abrotman; lett me check |
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| 14:29.45 | bliss1_ | abortman: yes its dhcp enabled but there is a section for static routing NAT is enabled RIP is disabled |
| 14:29.59 | abrotman | bliss1_: that wasn't what i was looking for |
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| 14:32.15 | Xteven | is the debian installer supposed to create /etc/modules ? |
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| 14:32.57 | bliss1_ | abortman: not sure where find what your asking in router set up 100-199 for DHCP |
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| 14:33.17 | abrotman | look under the DHCP settings |
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| 14:33.57 | dbernar1 | Is there a command to find out whether the bluetooth device in my laptop is turned on or off? |
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| 14:35.11 | yos87 | hi |
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| 14:35.27 | szazxszep | hello yos87:D |
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| 14:35.46 | toubsu | how can you see whether a NIC is connected at 10 or 100mpbs? |
| 14:35.58 | yos87 | in xserver-xfree86 configureation, what kind of mouse shoud I choose in the labtop |
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| 14:36.07 | yos87 | szazxszep: hi |
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| 14:36.57 | yos87 | because when I start x I have mouse error |
| 14:36.59 | Petaris | Anyone know of a way to get mondo to create the iso file locally but not burn it? |
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| 14:37.19 | abrotman | yos87: either /dev/input/mice or /dev/psaux |
| 14:37.20 | yos87 | szazxszep: where are you from? |
| 14:38.06 | yos87 | abrotman: after I choose /dev/psaux , what I choose from the next list |
| 14:38.19 | yos87 | ps/s , imps/2 , glidepoin/ netmouse..... |
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| 14:38.26 | cahoot | toubsu: for some nics you can use mii-tool |
| 14:38.40 | abrotman | yos87: ps/2 or imps/2 usually |
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| 14:40.07 | szazxszep | Hungary |
| 14:40.15 | lekvar | I now understand the philsophy that makes "cnet" suceed. The site's so overloaded with shit it makes me feel like I need a new computer. |
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| 14:40.35 | RichiH | any idea how i can access .eu's whois info by command line? |
| 14:40.45 | bliss1_ | abortman: local DHCP server enabled autodectect LAN DHCP server disabled starting IP Address 192.168.1.64 maximum number of DHCP users 191 client lease time 0 static DNS 1 all zero's same for static DNS 2 and 3 WINS 0 zero time settings |
| 14:40.52 | lekvar | [on which i will run debian - to stay on topic] |
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| 14:40.53 | yos87 | abrotman: after I startx, I had error graphiclly: xsession: unable to start x session --- no "/root/.xsession" file, no "root/.xsession' file , no session manager, no windown manager, no terminal emlator foud, aborting |
| 14:40.59 | RichiH | heh, abortman |
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| 14:43.01 | tarzeau | any input for http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ ? |
| 14:43.05 | tarzeau | RichiH: heh |
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| 14:44.21 | yos87 | Hi, after I startx, I had error graphiclly: xsession: unable to start x session --- no "/root/.xsession" file, no "root/.xsession' file , no session manager, no windown manager, no terminal emlator foud, aborting |
| 14:44.25 | szazxszep | yos87: dpkg reconfigure xserver-xfree86? it was useful for me :S |
| 14:44.38 | cahoot | yos87: don't try as root |
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| 14:45.01 | RichiH | tarzeau: as in improvement suggestion? |
| 14:45.41 | abrotman | RichiH: i hilight on it .. |
| 14:45.54 | abrotman | yos87: so make one ? |
| 14:46.01 | yos87 | cahoot: the same error |
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| 14:46.06 | abrotman | bliss1_: you still haven't told me what i asked you |
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| 14:46.14 | yos87 | abrotman: what shoud I make? |
| 14:46.22 | blondie | cheese + glue = spam |
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| 14:46.38 | bliss1_ | abortman: well did my best I am in a linux box not windows |
| 14:46.50 | tarzeau | RichiH: yes |
| 14:46.58 | tarzeau | RichiH: preferably in patch form |
| 14:47.04 | abrotman | tarzeau: wtf is karma |
| 14:47.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: dict karma |
| 14:47.14 | tarzeau | !karma |
| 14:47.14 | dpkg | tarzeau has karma of 7 |
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| 14:47.24 | abrotman | bliss1_: i asked you for the range that your router gives out as DHCP addresses |
| 14:47.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, see www.linuks.mine.nu/karma.txt |
| 14:48.38 | yos87 | abrotman: in the first step, I choose the vesa driver? |
| 14:49.14 | abrotman | yos87: ? |
| 14:50.40 | yos87 | abrotman: reconfigure xserver |
| 14:51.06 | yos87 | abrotman: should I make apt-get install gnome? |
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| 14:52.00 | yos87 | I just install the netinst, I made apt-get install xsever-xfree86 |
| 14:52.09 | yos87 | what should I install also? |
| 14:52.40 | RichiH | tarzeau: heh, no free time for me in the next few weeks |
| 14:53.32 | tarzeau | RichiH: hehe... i'm off, will read up later |
| 14:53.36 | spanglesontoast | hmm |
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| 14:54.04 | spanglesontoast | is it possible... to catch a raw log of netstat |
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| 14:54.10 | zwox | hi |
| 14:54.17 | humboldt | what process or daemon concering my WiFi network could force my connection offline for a splitsecond every minute, just enough to loose my skype connection? |
| 14:54.20 | yos87 | hi |
| 14:54.24 | zwox | i'm trying to use multihead with deb |
| 14:54.47 | bliss1_ | network settings local IP addrss 192.168.1.1 then subnet mask |
| 14:54.57 | zwox | could you explain me how to start with kde by a startx |
| 14:54.59 | zwox | please |
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| 14:55.19 | bliss1_ | abortman: |
| 14:55.19 | bliss1_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.20 | yos87 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.35 | zwox | ok thanks |
| 14:55.49 | zwox | and just to be sure |
| 14:55.55 | yos87 | abrotman: Can you help me with my trouble? |
| 14:56.08 | abrotman | yos87: describe the problem |
| 14:56.16 | zwox | in X11 i've reedit the XF86config |
| 14:56.17 | abrotman | bliss1_: you STILL haven't told me the answer to what i asked |
| 14:56.29 | zwox | to set two monitor instead of one |
| 14:56.30 | abrotman | bliss1_: do you know another language that yiou communicate better in? |
| 14:56.37 | koudelkaa | how to mount a folder? |
| 14:56.41 | koudelkaa | what filesystem? |
| 14:56.47 | bliss1_ | abortman: sorry do not know?//// |
| 14:56.47 | zwox | editing section monitor, screen, and device |
| 14:56.53 | zwox | is that correct ? |
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| 14:57.22 | yos87 | abrotman: I told you that I cannot startx, I made reconfigure xserver many time, and I just install the netinst, I install only xserver-xfree87, and I ment the error above |
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| 14:58.10 | abrotman | yos87: and what is the error line (EE in the X log) |
| 14:58.15 | abrotman | bliss1_: i told you to check |
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| 14:58.52 | yos87 | abrotman: how can I see this line? |
| 14:58.57 | bliss1_ | abortman: i will check with linksys |
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| 14:59.12 | abrotman | yos87: look in /var/log/ .. either Xorg.0.log or XFree86.0.log |
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| 14:59.21 | zwox | thank's for all |
| 14:59.23 | abrotman | bliss1_: ok |
| 14:59.26 | zwox | i'll try again |
| 14:59.28 | zwox | see you soon |
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| 15:00.07 | abrotman | tarzeau: i can't sort it .. page sucks |
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| 15:01.13 | yos87 | I open It, it's very long |
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| 15:01.57 | yos87 | abrotman: it's very very long, where I will find th EE |
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| 15:02.20 | obscuresoul | hello |
| 15:02.26 | Coweater | yos87: search for it |
| 15:03.35 | yos87 | coweater: there is no search option in nano! |
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| 15:03.56 | Coweater | use a real editor |
| 15:04.28 | Petaris | Anyone know of a way to get mondo to create the iso file locally but not burn it? |
| 15:04.42 | Coweater | and nano does have a search |
| 15:04.49 | obscuresoul | when i try to run a command i obtain the following "The DISPLAY variable is NOT set, which means, that X isn't running!" what can i do to solve this? |
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| 15:05.11 | yos87 | coweater: what is real editor? |
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| 15:05.39 | mooo | 2 ops is not enoph for 780 people |
| 15:05.50 | szazxszep | :D:D |
| 15:05.52 | koudelkaa | how to mount a folder to another? what filesystem to use? |
| 15:06.07 | Gathond | mooo: its 2 bots, so they have super powers :) |
| 15:06.21 | koudelkaa | never mind |
| 15:06.30 | mooo | oh |
| 15:06.38 | Coweater | yos87: use ctrl+w to search, and the real editor was a bit of a joke |
| 15:07.01 | Gathond | mooo: actualy Im pretty sure there are ops around, they just dont have ops, so to speak |
| 15:07.18 | mooo | oohh |
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| 15:08.16 | mooo | bots cant moderate good |
| 15:08.31 | mooo | i can cuss at people, and the bots wont know |
| 15:08.38 | abrotman | we will |
| 15:08.40 | mooo | becuase machins are stupid |
| 15:08.43 | szazxszep | koudelkaa: what do you really want? :S linking? |
| 15:08.43 | azeem | mooo: do you have a Debian question? |
| 15:08.55 | mooo | wtf is debian? |
| 15:09.00 | abrotman | nice |
| 15:09.03 | azeem | mooo: see www.debian.org |
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| 15:09.14 | wwallace_lap | hello to all |
| 15:09.19 | nix | mooo: wtf are you doing here? |
| 15:09.20 | yos87 | coeater : thank you |
| 15:09.20 | wwallace_lap | abrotman: hi |
| 15:09.29 | koudelkaa | i've found it, so nevermind :P |
| 15:09.30 | azeem | mooo: this channel is about the Debian operating system, if you are not interested in that, please either be quiet or leave |
| 15:09.37 | szazxszep | :) |
| 15:09.38 | abrotman | azeem: he is also in #gentoo |
| 15:09.40 | mooo | LOL |
| 15:09.42 | azeem | I saw |
| 15:09.55 | mooo | OMG YOU KNOW WHAT CHANNEL I AM IN |
| 15:09.57 | mooo | H4X MB |
| 15:10.04 | *** mode/#debian [+o azeem] by ChanServ |
| 15:10.07 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*=dontemai@*.dyn.optonline.net] by azeem |
| 15:10.09 | *** mode/#debian [-o azeem] by azeem |
| 15:10.15 | abrotman | !prize azeem |
| 15:10.17 | azeem | mooo: you have been silenced for 10 minutes |
| 15:10.29 | azeem | mooo: please consider contributing to this channel in a positive way from now |
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| 15:10.36 | azeem | like this |
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| 15:10.55 | De_Mon | what do you call code writing software.. I wana say IDA but that's not right.. like MS VSC+ jgrasp etc |
| 15:11.00 | plasmoduck_ | how do I make ppp auto redial? |
| 15:11.17 | abrotman | man pppd .. look for persist |
| 15:11.25 | De_Mon | IDE? |
| 15:11.31 | abrotman | that's one term |
| 15:11.34 | obscuresoul | when i try to run a command i obtain the following "The DISPLAY variable is NOT set, which means, that X isn't running!" what can i do to solve this? |
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| 15:11.59 | vorsprung | obscuresoul, export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 15:12.12 | vorsprung | obscuresoul, xhost +local: |
| 15:12.13 | abrotman | azeem: then he went to #ubuntu ... |
| 15:12.19 | azeem | thihi |
| 15:13.44 | obscuresoul | vorsprung: tks |
| 15:14.16 | azeem | abrotman: uhm, and a couple of others... |
| 15:14.30 | abrotman | azeem: he has now .. he hadn't a moment ago |
| 15:14.47 | yos87 | coweater : I couldn't find, what is the EE log! |
| 15:14.57 | abrotman | yos87: are you using Xorg or Xfree? |
| 15:15.07 | yos87 | Xfree |
| 15:15.15 | azeem | he quit |
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| 15:15.23 | abrotman | or got k-lined |
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| 15:15.43 | azeem | apparently not |
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| 15:15.57 | azeem | oh, well, anyway, back to work |
| 15:15.58 | drf5n | What should I do to fix instant segfaults for my mozilla-firefox (1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-4) ? |
| 15:16.09 | yos87 | abrotman: Don't talk with me as professional, I don't have much experiense with debian |
| 15:16.18 | wwallace_lap | how do i defragment in debian? |
| 15:16.26 | Coweater | yos87: open your xfree log, it should be in /var/log then search for EE in it |
| 15:16.44 | yos87 | abrotman: what is Xorg? |
| 15:16.57 | wwallace_lap | google xorg |
| 15:17.08 | abrotman | yos87: grep EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
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| 15:17.15 | azeem | cva: please turn of the public away messages |
| 15:17.27 | abrotman | and stop sleeping so much .. jeez |
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| 15:17.43 | cva | my bad |
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| 15:18.52 | yos87 | abrotman: (II) loading extension mit-screen-saver, (EE) xf86openserial: cannot open device /dev/input/mice - (EE) preInit failed for input device "generic mouse" |
| 15:18.53 | AngelGabriel | I have a question for you guys, is it possible, for an NIC to slow a computer down? I have 5 nics in my gateway machine, and it is seroiusly underperforming |
| 15:19.07 | abrotman | yos87: what kernel do you have? `uname -a` |
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| 15:19.34 | yos87 | linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 |
| 15:19.55 | abrotman | yos87: then it's probably /dev/psaux |
| 15:20.18 | yos87 | the problem with mouse? |
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| 15:20.22 | plasmoduck_ | how do I make ppp auto redial? man ppp doesnt show how to do it |
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| 15:20.34 | abrotman | man pppd |
| 15:20.36 | nix | AngelGabriel: #define "underperforming" |
| 15:20.44 | abrotman | plasmoduck_: man pppd .. look for persist |
| 15:20.49 | yos87 | abrotman: dpdg-reconfigure xfree-server86? |
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| 15:21.13 | abrotman | yes |
| 15:21.14 | AngelGabriel | went from being ablt to server 45 computers with insanly fast webserving, to barly able to serve one computer |
| 15:21.30 | AngelGabriel | in 60 minutes |
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| 15:22.20 | tahpot | anyone able to assist me with getting java sdk installed? |
| 15:22.26 | tahpot | i'm getting the following error: |
| 15:22.27 | yos87 | abrotman : But what mouse should I choose? |
| 15:22.31 | abrotman | /dev/psaux |
| 15:22.32 | resiak | !tell tahpot -about install java |
| 15:22.35 | abrotman | and ps/2 |
| 15:22.48 | bliss1_ | abortman start 1.64 end 1.254 |
| 15:23.06 | abrotman | bliss1_: so .. give your debian box like 192.168.0.50 |
| 15:23.10 | tahpot | fakeroot make-jpkg j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux.bin |
| 15:23.11 | tahpot | Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.XXXX5zxNVP |
| 15:23.11 | tahpot | Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk.sh |
| 15:23.11 | tahpot | No matching plugin was found. |
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| 15:23.16 | abrotman | bliss1_: give it the correct IP for your router as your "gateway" |
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| 15:23.23 | tahpot | whoops sorry |
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| 15:23.39 | resiak | tahpot: Try a more recent SDK, perhaps? |
| 15:23.54 | tahpot | resiak: i downloaded it from sun just now |
| 15:24.11 | resiak | tahpot: It's a 1.4 sdk. 1.5 exists |
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| 15:24.19 | Fubarovic | i want to install debian on my slackware laptop but the boot floppy doesnt support my ide chipset, is there an easy way to fix this? |
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| 15:24.43 | resiak | Fubarovic: debootstrap might help --- /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 15:24.44 | yos87 | abrotman : I have the same error!! |
| 15:24.59 | tahpot | resiak: hm... my mistake. will try, thanks |
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| 15:25.14 | abrotman | yos87: did you load the psmouse module? |
| 15:25.14 | yos87 | xsession: unable to start x session --- no " /home/yosef/.xsession |
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| 15:25.21 | yos87 | yes |
| 15:25.22 | Fubarovic | resiak: i can't simply replace the kernel on the floppy by my custom kernel? |
| 15:25.24 | abrotman | yos87: so create one |
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| 15:25.27 | yos87 | ps2 |
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| 15:25.51 | resiak | Fubarovic: I have no idea. |
| 15:25.53 | yos87 | abrotman: creat what? |
| 15:26.01 | abrotman | yos87: a .xsession .. |
| 15:26.07 | yos87 | abrotman: I think there is something I did not install |
| 15:26.19 | Fubarovic | heh, ok |
| 15:26.20 | Fubarovic | thx |
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| 15:26.26 | trueno | Hi! how can I install firefox plugins (specially java and flash) system wide? Which plugins do you recommend me to install? |
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| 15:26.52 | resiak | !tell tahpot -about flash |
| 15:26.54 | resiak | !tell tahpot -about java |
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| 15:27.02 | seeker | #nagios |
| 15:27.03 | RolandU | hi all! I am trying to connect to the internet via bluetooth via mobile-phone via gprs using wvdial. However, it always quits saying "carrier detected. waiting for prompt" |
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| 15:27.18 | g0vner | why do i've to use mkfs, if i allready choose a fs in fdisk? |
| 15:27.23 | tahpot | !tell trueno -about flash |
| 15:27.25 | Fubarovic | i'll give the testing image a try first |
| 15:27.25 | tahpot | !tell trueno -about java |
| 15:27.36 | tahpot | ;) |
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| 15:27.57 | yos87 | abrotman: what is the package name for xsession please |
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| 15:28.07 | abrotman | !tell yos87 about setup x |
| 15:28.08 | ajayc | HELLO peole |
| 15:28.15 | ajayc | i LOVE debian |
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| 15:28.41 | Ronin | good for you ajayc |
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| 15:28.52 | Fubarovic | why is that ajayc |
| 15:29.06 | g0vner | any one? |
| 15:29.38 | azeem | g0vner: fdisk only sets the partition type |
| 15:29.43 | ajayc | cos debian does what it is meant to do |
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| 15:29.45 | azeem | you need to actually create the file system still |
| 15:29.57 | Fubarovic | you don't choose a FS in fdisk |
| 15:30.03 | Fubarovic | you choose a partition type |
| 15:30.04 | yos87 | abrotman: x-window-system-core is already installed |
| 15:30.08 | resiak | tahpot: argh, sorry |
| 15:30.16 | g0vner | azeem : thanks |
| 15:30.17 | abrotman | yos87: what window manager did you install ? |
| 15:30.51 | yos87 | abrotman: I did not install anything exept xwindow-xfree87 |
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| 15:30.57 | ajayc | well i require some help guys |
| 15:30.58 | trueno | tahpot -- Thanks... which plugins would you consirer to be a "must" and hence worth installing them system-wide? |
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| 15:31.03 | abrotman | yos87: so what window manager do you want? |
| 15:31.12 | Ronin | ajayc: best just to state the problem |
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| 15:31.17 | g0vner | azeem : mkfs can create any fs? for sample fat 32 |
| 15:31.23 | yos87 | abrotman: populer one please |
| 15:31.25 | RolandU | could anyone please tell me what "route add default gw x.x.x.x" does exactly? |
| 15:31.27 | ajayc | as i stay in India i cannot download debian cos of 400mb download limit |
| 15:31.36 | ajayc | can anyone mail the DVD to me please |
| 15:31.39 | clautio | Hi, one question, what does mean this iptables rule? |
| 15:31.42 | ajayc | asking for a favour |
| 15:31.47 | clautio | iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.0/24 -i eth0 -j DROP |
| 15:31.47 | trueno | g0vner, mkfs.vfat, man mkfs |
| 15:31.49 | Ronin | ajayc: netinstall cd not an options? |
| 15:31.54 | derjohn | hm, in Debian sid there is no "base-config" any longer, because the installer does everything. But what do I use after debootstrap-ing a sid? |
| 15:31.55 | yos87 | abrotman: there is gdm also I remember, should I install it? |
| 15:32.02 | g0vner | trueno : thanks |
| 15:32.13 | trueno | g0vner, np |
| 15:32.14 | abrotman | yos87: i can't choose one for you |
| 15:32.16 | ajayc | 400 mb downloadlimit:( |
| 15:32.25 | stew | derjohn: debootstrap with the --second-stage option |
| 15:32.40 | abrotman | yos87: gnome/kde/blackbox/xfce/openbox/ion .. which do you want .. there are quite a few dozen window managers in deiban |
| 15:32.43 | abrotman | debian too |
| 15:32.44 | trueno | Which plugins would you consirer to be a "must" and hence worth installing them system-wide? |
| 15:32.45 | ajayc | so can anyone? |
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| 15:32.53 | Ronin | ajayc: yes so? netinstall fits on a mini cd |
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| 15:33.03 | yos87 | abrotman: I use gnome before |
| 15:33.10 | yos87 | abrotman: apt-get install gnome? |
| 15:33.11 | ajayc | but not many packages eh? |
| 15:33.17 | abrotman | yos87: ok .. apt-get install gnome gdm |
| 15:33.19 | stew | ajayc: find a local LUG |
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| 15:33.51 | ajayc | they wont help |
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| 15:34.11 | lnc | is there any mp3 converter around? |
| 15:34.40 | Ronin | ajayc: why not? |
| 15:34.49 | ajayc | cos none of em uses debian |
| 15:34.50 | cahoot | lnc: lame |
| 15:34.57 | abrotman | !tell lnc about lame |
| 15:35.12 | ajayc | i could have ordered but i am just 16 with a family who hates linux |
| 15:35.14 | azeem | lame is an encoder, rather than a converted AIUI |
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| 15:35.33 | abrotman | you'd still need it to convert afaik |
| 15:35.40 | derjohn | stew, /me slaps himself. thx! --second-stage is run from within the new system/jail? strange, debootstrap itself does not belong to the packages that are installed by default. |
| 15:35.42 | cahoot | encode/decode |
| 15:35.43 | ajayc | ?? |
| 15:35.49 | x-evian | hello |
| 15:35.53 | azeem | abrotman: unless you want to convert .mp3 -> .ogg ;) |
| 15:35.56 | x-evian | firs time with linux |
| 15:36.05 | azeem | x-evian: hi |
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| 15:36.09 | x-evian | i am |
| 15:36.09 | abrotman | azeem: i assume he'd want to convert to ... otherwise .. why would he ask? |
| 15:36.18 | abrotman | !es |
| 15:36.18 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:36.19 | ajayc | so none intersted in helping this poor bloke? |
| 15:36.19 | azeem | good oint |
| 15:36.19 | x-evian | cant you help me |
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| 15:36.24 | cahoot | azeem: doesn't that go mpr-wav-ogg? |
| 15:36.30 | x-evian | to mount the dvd |
| 15:36.38 | azeem | x-evian: you want to play DVD films? |
| 15:36.40 | ajayc | please help me out |
| 15:36.47 | x-evian | yes |
| 15:36.49 | x-evian | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.59 | azeem | ajayc: ask somewhere else please |
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| 15:37.03 | azeem | ajayc: or download a mini-ISO |
| 15:37.06 | lnc | !ph |
| 15:37.06 | dpkg | i guess ph is Public Humiliation, or the Philippines |
| 15:37.13 | ajayc | ok |
| 15:37.20 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 15:37.23 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.26 | azeem | eh |
| 15:37.39 | azeem | !dvd |
| 15:37.39 | dpkg | well, dvd is use xine (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), vlc or ogle (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about decss, or ask me about libdvdcss |
| 15:37.47 | azeem | !libdvdcss |
| 15:37.48 | dpkg | well, libdvdcss is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh, or see <marillat> |
| 15:37.53 | azeem | !marillat |
| 15:37.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 15:38.06 | azeem | oh damn, x-evian left |
| 15:38.08 | azeem | how useless |
| 15:38.14 | ajayc | can u give me the link for the mini install disk? |
| 15:38.15 | nullvoid | I am getting error when I upgrade my sid packages; Setting up sasl2-bin (2.1.19.dfsg1-0.1) ... Starting SASL Authentication Daemon: (failed) invoke-rc.d: initscript saslauthd, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing sasl2-bin (--configure): |
| 15:38.21 | stew | #tell azeem about msgthebot :P |
| 15:38.45 | azeem | !tell ajayc about netinst |
| 15:39.21 | lnc | lame isn't a converter |
| 15:39.34 | stew | lnc: what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 15:39.46 | lnc | convert mp3 to wma |
| 15:39.51 | azeem | hah! |
| 15:39.52 | ajayc | well how can i use netinst with this connection 400mb download limit |
| 15:39.57 | stew | lnc: you cannot encode wma on linux, you must use windows |
| 15:40.04 | azeem | ... partly |
| 15:40.09 | lnc | i see |
| 15:40.25 | azeem | ajayc: netinst is less than 400mb |
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| 15:40.57 | stew | ajayc: a netinst contains the debian base system, and its is about 140MB or so |
| 15:41.00 | lnc | azeem: 108MB |
| 15:41.22 | ajayc | so what bout KDE and gnome and other packages |
| 15:41.30 | azeem | ajayc: apt-get them |
| 15:41.35 | ajayc | size? |
| 15:41.40 | azeem | dunno |
| 15:41.53 | azeem | we can't help you with sending CDs/DVDs to your place |
| 15:42.11 | bliss1_ | abortman: something like http://pastebin.com/651558 |
| 15:42.19 | stew | abort! |
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| 15:42.43 | azeem | !abortman |
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| 15:42.48 | azeem | pfft |
| 15:42.49 | lilalinux | When doing "debootstrap --second-stage" I get this error: "cat: /usr/lib/debootstrap/suite: No such file or directory" |
| 15:43.13 | AngelGabriel | Is there any reason why it would take an NIC nearly 20 seconds to respond to requests? |
| 15:43.17 | prudhvi | has the Xen VM packed into debian Sid ? |
| 15:43.23 | cat | can someone help me out with this please Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. Please take a look at the syslog. /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! |
| 15:43.27 | abrotman | bliss1_: what is the IP of your router? |
| 15:43.30 | stew | bliss1_: you can omit braodcast and network lines. your gateway is the router, not ther routers gateway, so use the 192.168.0.1, and that won't change |
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| 15:43.41 | prudhvi | !xen |
| 15:43.41 | dpkg | it has been said that xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. |
| 15:43.44 | derjohn | prudhvi, in experimental there are hybrid kernels for xen+vserver |
| 15:43.57 | Kinks | cat: so.. did you look at the log? |
| 15:44.01 | yos87 | abrotman: gnome is big package ! |
| 15:44.07 | azeem | yos87: yes |
| 15:44.22 | cat | what log Kinks |
| 15:44.32 | Kinks | cat: did you read the error message? |
| 15:44.34 | abrotman | yos87: yes it is |
| 15:44.39 | prudhvi | derjohn, i need the base xen package, what is its meta-name ? |
| 15:44.44 | bliss1_ | abortman: 192.168.1.64 |
| 15:44.59 | abrotman | bliss1_: NO .. the IP of your router |
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| 15:45.13 | abrotman | bliss1_: you're on windows right now? |
| 15:45.25 | bliss1_ | abortman no linux |
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| 15:45.33 | abrotman | bliss1_: and you have no internet? |
| 15:45.36 | cat | yeah i did |
| 15:45.39 | cat | i need help with that |
| 15:45.41 | derjohn | prudhvi, you want xen3 anyway. AFAIR there is only xen2 packaged (could have changed though) |
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| 15:45.55 | bliss1_ | abortman: internet is perm |
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| 15:46.01 | bliss1_ | 24/7 |
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| 15:46.31 | abrotman | bliss1_: your linksys router .. what is the internal IP ? |
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| 15:46.38 | ajayc | will sound work in netinst installation? |
| 15:47.47 | tombs | hi all |
| 15:47.59 | ajayc | will sound work |
| 15:48.09 | ajayc | ? |
| 15:48.19 | bliss1_ | abortman: local ip address is 192.168.1.1 |
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| 15:48.56 | abrotman | so that's your gateway |
| 15:49.00 | nullvoid | ajayc: you mean audio? |
| 15:49.13 | stew | ajayc: yes |
| 15:49.35 | nullvoid | stew: do you use sid at the moment? |
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| 15:49.44 | ajayc | yeah the audio |
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| 15:50.06 | cr3 | I don't know where to ask but here goes anyways: I'm compiling grep to understand how gettext works and then, when I run LC_MESSAGES=fr ./src/grep --help, I always seem to get the english help. how can I get the help for other languages in the build directory? |
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| 15:50.20 | nullvoid | ajayc: you need to have alsa for your audio to work |
| 15:50.21 | stew | nullvoid: yes, i'm using all three at the moment |
| 15:50.30 | bliss1_ | abortman: so apart from the gateway which you hace just told me everything else in http://pastebin.com/651558 is ok? |
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| 15:50.35 | stew | nullvoid: that's not true |
| 15:50.51 | nullvoid | stew: which one? |
| 15:50.56 | abrotman | bliss1_: i'd change your IP to 192.168.1.50 |
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| 15:51.05 | stew | nullvoid: he doesn't need alsa for his sound to work |
| 15:51.17 | stew | nullvoid: at least based on the info he has given us so far |
| 15:51.28 | nullvoid | stew: hmmmm |
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| 15:51.54 | nullvoid | stew: so not oss and not alsa... |
| 15:51.56 | bliss1_ | abortman: ok thanks |
| 15:52.02 | stew | nullvoid: why not oss? |
| 15:52.21 | yos87 | abrotman: Gnome around 600 mb, But why enlightenment is only few mbs |
| 15:52.23 | nullvoid | stew: come back to my problem |
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| 15:52.40 | nullvoid | stew: my sasl2-bin upgrade break in sid, how's yours? |
| 15:52.49 | stew | nullvoid: i don't use sasl on sid |
| 15:52.57 | stew | nullvoid: /msg dpkg bts |
| 15:52.59 | bliss1_ | abortman: is that because 192.168.1.50 is regarded as static |
| 15:53.00 | nullvoid | kay |
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| 15:53.37 | nullvoid | yos87: what do you expect abrotman to answer for your enlightenment vs gnome size? |
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| 15:53.56 | szazxszep | why not?? |
| 15:54.01 | abrotman | yos87: gnome is a metapackage that gets a lot of stuff |
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| 15:54.09 | abrotman | bliss1_: from what you've told me .. yes |
| 15:54.21 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 15:54.21 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 15:54.56 | yos87 | nullvoid: why you are laughing, abrotman not neccesary to answare, it was just comment, abrotman Had answare my question anyway |
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| 15:55.39 | LordNazgul | can anyone reccomend a good lightweight windowmanager. i currently use fluxbox, but am always looking to experiment |
| 15:55.40 | nullvoid | yos87: did I laugh? I was assisting you on your expectation.... |
| 15:55.40 | bliss1_ | abortman: many thanks for your help so in the router settings 64 at the end becomes 50? |
| 15:55.45 | yos87 | nullvoid: i'm disurbing you by asking abrotman? |
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| 15:56.05 | yos87 | nullvoid: you say something vs something! |
| 15:56.25 | abrotman | bliss1_: don't thank me til it works :) |
| 15:56.41 | nullvoid | yos87: I am not english native - maybe I put it wrong ;) peace |
| 15:56.54 | szazxszep | :) |
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| 15:57.00 | yos87 | nullvoid: thank you |
| 15:57.21 | bliss1_ | abortman: you know it will |
| 15:57.23 | yos87 | abrotman: it's working, I loged on |
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| 15:57.54 | spowers | LordNazgul: i like windowmaker a lot for its lightweightness, but that it also supports some stuff |
| 15:58.03 | Fubarovic | i just need one extra module for my ide controller to work |
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| 15:58.11 | yos87 | abrotman: Thank you very much for help! |
| 15:58.16 | spowers | LordNazgul: but i turn off the dock and having xbindkeys configured is a must for me at least |
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| 15:58.22 | abrotman | bliss1_: i'm skeptical |
| 15:58.22 | Fubarovic | can i just extract the module from the .deb kernel package, then modprobe it during install? |
| 15:58.34 | spowers | LordNazgul: er, not the dock.. the clip |
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| 15:59.25 | bliss1_ | abortman: yes well thats ok but still thanks |
| 15:59.35 | jmartens | I've got a Dell 2850, and for some reason, "modprobe e1000" says "modprobe: can't locate module e1000", but "insmod e1000" works just fine. Any thoughts? |
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| 15:59.48 | jmartens | Sarge system |
| 16:00.11 | Fubarovic | modprobe with a full path probably works too, doesn't it? |
| 16:00.45 | stew | jmartens: try runningn "depmod -a" then try modprobe again, maybe? |
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| 16:02.10 | jmartens | Fubarovic: I tried putting in the /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/drivers/net/e1000, is that what you meant? |
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| 16:02.23 | jmartens | stew: depmod -a didn't help. |
| 16:02.36 | Fubarovic | i'm too noob jmartens, sorry :) |
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| 16:03.05 | Beck^ | hello |
| 16:03.16 | xomhau | hi * , i use unstable amd64 , and fluxbox 0.9.15 , icon on menu not appearance |
| 16:03.16 | xomhau | how i can do? |
| 16:03.22 | stew | jmartens: what version of module-init-tools do you have? |
| 16:03.57 | Spudchat | thanks dpkg and the ppl who put lvm in it |
| 16:03.57 | dpkg | de rien, Spudchat |
| 16:04.03 | jmartens | stew: Hmm, not installed. |
| 16:04.09 | Fubarovic | how can i extract a .deb on slack? |
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| 16:04.17 | jmartens | stew: This is a stable system. |
| 16:04.22 | stew | jmartens: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 16:04.34 | Ronin | Fubarovic: why would you want to? doesnt slack have whatever package your after? |
| 16:04.38 | jmartens | 2.4.27-3-686-smp |
| 16:04.45 | Fubarovic | Ronin: trust me, i need this |
| 16:04.58 | jmartens | stew: My SCSI controller isn't supported on 2.6 |
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| 16:05.05 | jmartens | stew: So I'm still on 2.4 |
| 16:05.23 | Fubarovic | i need to load the cmd640 module for my ide, but it's not in the testing install floppy |
| 16:05.26 | stew | jmartens: hopfully that gets fixed soon, etch won't support 2.4 |
| 16:05.35 | Fubarovic | so i downloaded the kernel image 2.4.27 and i hope to be able to extract the module |
| 16:05.41 | Fubarovic | this way i can load it during the install |
| 16:05.44 | Fubarovic | hopefully |
| 16:05.45 | stew | jmartens: i *think* you might wanna install module-init-tools |
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| 16:06.15 | stew | Fubarovic: you can't use a module compiled for one kernel in another kernel |
| 16:06.48 | jmartens | stew: This system was working before, but I'm reconfiguring the network to use bonding, so I removed an options statement for e1000, and re-inserted "alias e1000 eth(0|1)" for both of the cards |
| 16:06.58 | Fubarovic | stew: the kernels should be the same |
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| 16:07.12 | Fubarovic | 2.4.27-2 |
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| 16:07.26 | stew | Fubarovic: wait, what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 16:07.37 | Fubarovic | i wawnt to install debian |
| 16:07.43 | Fubarovic | i'm using the bootfloppies |
| 16:07.48 | stew | Fubarovic: you can't use cds? |
| 16:07.49 | Fubarovic | but they don't support my CMD IDe |
| 16:07.51 | Fubarovic | no |
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| 16:07.59 | Fubarovic | all i have is floppy and LAN on my lappie |
| 16:08.12 | Fubarovic | i'm running slackware on it right now |
| 16:08.16 | Fubarovic | but i don't really like it |
| 16:08.22 | jmartens | stew: module-init-tools didn't help. :( |
| 16:08.25 | stew | Fubarovic: why not use debootstrap then? |
| 16:08.33 | stew | jmartens: did you re-run depmod? |
| 16:08.36 | Fubarovic | i dunno, i never tried it |
| 16:08.38 | stew | jmartens: sorry, i dunno then |
| 16:08.40 | Fubarovic | can i use it on a slack ? |
| 16:08.44 | stew | Fubarovic: yes |
| 16:08.57 | Fubarovic | i could use the slack boot flops and try to start the debian installer after booting |
| 16:09.00 | Fubarovic | or is that a daft idea? |
| 16:09.27 | stew | Fubarovic: no you would just run debootstrap from inside your running slack install, /msg dpkg debootstrap, /msg dpkg chroot install |
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| 16:09.45 | foo | I am setting up my linux router again (installed a new hard drive in it earlier) but am having some problems. eth0 goes out to the Internet, and eth2 goes to my lan. None of the clients on this network are picking up an IP. I have my server -patch-> switch -> client. I am pretty sure this is something on the client side. Anyone have any idesa on what to do? |
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| 16:11.01 | jmartens | foo: What interface is your dhcp server running on? And is DHCP running on the same system as your router? |
| 16:11.14 | foo | server:/home/foo# ps aux | grep dhcp |
| 16:11.15 | foo | root 4953 0.0 0.5 3304 1736 ? Ss 01:14 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q eth2 |
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| 16:11.24 | foo | jmartens: Yes, dhcp on same system as router |
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| 16:11.55 | jmartens | foo: Run "lsof -i | grep dhcp" |
| 16:12.01 | petemc | foo: do you see dhcp broadcasts in syslog? |
| 16:12.03 | jmartens | foo: you might need the lsof package |
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| 16:13.31 | foo | jmartens: dhcpd3 4953 root 6u IPv4 14605 UDP *:bootps |
| 16:13.31 | foo | petemc: no |
| 16:13.59 | petemc | foo: well, you should |
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| 16:14.25 | jmartens | foo: Ok, so it's listening on all interfaces. do you have a firewall running? |
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| 16:14.35 | foo | petemc: Hmm. I don't see the client hitting the server when it requests an IP |
| 16:14.35 | Fubarovic | stew: so i can now install the debian base system using debootstrap while slack is running? |
| 16:14.47 | petemc | foo: netmask problem perhaps |
| 16:14.51 | foo | jmartens: I have an iptables frontend called ipkungfu, but I idisabled it. iptables is clean |
| 16:14.59 | foo | petemc: hmm, how would I go about solving that? |
| 16:15.09 | stew | Fubarovic: yeah, that's the idea |
| 16:15.28 | petemc | foo: whats the ip/netmask of eth2? (dont paste) |
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| 16:16.01 | foo | petemc: :) 192.168.0.2 is the IP, 192.168.0.0 is the netmask? I think |
| 16:16.31 | petemc | foo: dont guess - check |
| 16:16.59 | stew | Fubarovic: the netmask would be either 255.255.0.0 or 255.255.255.0 |
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| 16:17.07 | stew | foo: ^^^ |
| 16:17.13 | foo | stew: ahh, thanks |
| 16:17.21 | foo | petemc: ah, it is 255.255.255.0 |
| 16:17.24 | stew | (probably, it could be something different) |
| 16:17.42 | Fubarovic | 192.168.0.0 is the subnet address ;) |
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| 16:17.57 | heny | which file do i have to edit to make changes in a bashrc GENERALLY for all users? |
| 16:18.15 | dragontii | ./etc/profile? |
| 16:18.16 | Fubarovic | i think /etc/profile |
| 16:18.16 | foo | Fubarovic: ah, thanks. I get those confused. |
| 16:18.22 | Fubarovic | np |
| 16:18.32 | foo | petemc: Any other ideas? |
| 16:18.33 | jmartens | heny: or maybe /etc/bash.bashrc? |
| 16:19.07 | petemc | foo: are you sure your machines are broadcasting, if you're running dhcpd on that interface, as you appear to be, it should show in syslog |
| 16:19.09 | dragontii | yes /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile is the global version of .bash_profile |
| 16:19.45 | jmartens | foo: I don't have access to my dhcp config now, but is there an interfaces line in it? And which log are you looking in for messages from the dhcp server? |
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| 16:20.42 | petemc | jmartens: in debian, the interface is specified in /etc/default/ |
| 16:20.46 | heny | which file do i have to edit to make changes in a bashrc GENERALLY for all users? |
| 16:20.49 | foo | petemc, jmartens: Yeah, don't see anything in syslog :/ jmartens, no, the interfaces line for dhcpd is in /etc/default/dhcp3-server ... and I have checked /var/log/messages|syslog ... |
| 16:21.00 | dragontii | heny /etc/bash.bashrc |
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| 16:21.31 | foo | petemc, jmartens: Something weird is that I have another switch connected to this switch (it's my wifi router acting as a switch) .. and it has an IP of 192.168.0.1 ... and I can't ping that from the server |
| 16:21.34 | heny | dragontii: yes, but newly added users dont have colour prompt |
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| 16:22.19 | Fubarovic | stew: i have slack on my /dev/hda1 now, but i'd like to put debian on /dev/hda1. debootstrap requires me to mount my target partition on /mnt |
| 16:22.23 | Fubarovic | how is that going to work out? |
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| 16:22.29 | petemc | foo: on the server, can you ping 192.168.0.2 |
| 16:22.39 | jmartens | foo: Do you have a crossover cable that you could plug directly from your router to your client? |
| 16:22.47 | foo | petemc: Yes, but that's me I am pinging |
| 16:22.53 | petemc | foo: im well aware of that |
| 16:22.54 | foo | jmartens: Yes |
| 16:22.56 | foo | petemc: ah, ok |
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| 16:23.14 | petemc | foo: check the cable to the lan, i guess |
| 16:23.14 | foo | jmartens: Want me to do that? |
| 16:23.21 | dragontii | somebody have the intel mac mini? |
| 16:23.21 | stew | Fubarovic: i'm not sure i understand the question, can you be more specific? |
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| 16:23.39 | Fubarovic | ok, i have my current / on /dev/hda1 |
| 16:23.45 | foo | petemc: I've tried several cables, all of which are good ... I have a cable tester. heh, I know this story just gets worse and worse. I am seriously out of ideas. |
| 16:23.45 | Deffie| | hi all, i'm renewing a mailserver, i'm currently using ext3, maildirs, about 3000 users and 30gb occupied, it is reasonable to move to reiser4 ? is it reliable ? |
| 16:23.52 | Fubarovic | i would like to put debian on /dev/hda1, but slack is already on there |
| 16:24.01 | Fubarovic | how will this work with debootstrap? |
| 16:24.12 | Fubarovic | i can't mount an empty partition on /mnt |
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| 16:24.55 | RichiH | !find whois |
| 16:25.00 | Fubarovic | do you know what i mean? |
| 16:25.06 | stew | Fubarovic: oh, debootstrap is not going to make it easy for you to replace an existing root partition, maybe debtakover will though |
| 16:25.11 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'whois' (7 of 43): (/usr/bin/gwhois) in net/gwhois ;; (/usr/bin/rwhois) in net/socks4-clients ;; (/usr/share/ircII/help/whois) in net/ircii ;; (/usr/share/irssi/help/whois) in net/irssi ;; (/usr/share/jsboard/whois.php) in web/jsboard ;; (/usr/share/kaptain/whois.kaptn) in utils/kaptain ;; (/usr/share/bbclone/ip2ext/whois.inc) in web/bbclone. |
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| 16:27.34 | szazxszep | can anyone help me on printershareing? |
| 16:28.21 | heny | whats the difference between adduser and useradd? |
| 16:28.33 | szazxszep | interactive or not |
| 16:28.45 | heny | ? |
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| 16:29.11 | cahoot | szazxszep: http://www.linuxprinting.org/till/printing-tutorial/tut.html#1_3_1 |
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| 16:30.12 | foo | jmartens: Didn't work |
| 16:30.18 | prudhvi | Has the Debian menu removed starting from Gnome-2.14 ? ( Sid ) |
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| 16:31.34 | dragontii | heny adduser add a new user to the system when useradd is more a tools to modify information about a user already added, but if you put the -D switch its do the same job then adduser |
| 16:31.49 | yos87 | When I open the menu (applications) the Debian menux does not open, Somebody Can help me with it? |
| 16:31.56 | jmartens | foo: still nothing in your log? |
| 16:32.01 | jmartens | foo: and you have a link? |
| 16:32.24 | szazxszep | thank you cahoot! |
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| 16:36.03 | jmartens | foo: Sorry, I don't know what else it could be then. |
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| 16:36.20 | foo | jmartens: heh, I think I might have gotten it .. give me a few minutes, have an idea. I'll let you know |
| 16:36.26 | lamp__ | the proces whiptail is asking 20 percent of my cpu all the time |
| 16:36.58 | heny | is bash in /etc/bash/ ? |
| 16:37.05 | simmy | Would someone be so kind as to get me the md5sum of 3.1's latest i386 /bin/tar ? I can't seem to find it (and don't know how to get it, if possible, from dpkg) |
| 16:37.07 | jmartens | stew: I seem to have resolved my e1000 problem. |
| 16:37.45 | stew | jmartens: how? |
| 16:37.46 | darkness_ | Get an A1000 dude. |
| 16:37.49 | jmartens | stew: For some reason, the "alias e1000 eth0" lines in /etc/modutils/aliases was causing the driver to not be found. |
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| 16:38.04 | lamp__ | the proces whiptail is asking 20 percent of my cpu all the time does anyone know why |
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| 16:38.24 | jmartens | stew: After removing them, and running update-modules, they are loaded automagically. |
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| 16:38.37 | stew | ahh |
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| 16:39.18 | jmartens | stew: I don't really understand *why* that is, but whatever. |
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| 16:40.44 | foo | peterS/ jmartens / petemc: Heh, I had eth2 and eth1 switch around. Apparently when I put the new nic in, it took the name of the old nic. blah. |
| 16:40.56 | jack_c | hello, how can i read an email from the server ? i have some attached files and i need thosethe file is something like 1144674624.V801I3f80fe.server:2,S .. any ideeas ? |
| 16:41.58 | dragontii | jmartens try alias eth0 e1000 instead of alias e1000 eth0 |
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| 16:43.05 | Trewas | simmy: tar version 1.14-2.1 and /bin/tar has md5sum d0ed2a62e6459375513d211a2bc5e9fb |
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| 16:44.45 | yos87 | Hi, when I open the applications menu, Debian menu does not opoen, somebody can help me why? |
| 16:45.03 | gilianima | Would someone know how to convert the following french/chinese .bin dictionnary into .txt format ? (http://82.235.26.179/perso/fr.bin) |
| 16:45.20 | Fubarovic | what's the name of the current "testing" branch? |
| 16:45.22 | Fubarovic | is it sid? |
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| 16:46.48 | jmartens | Fubarovic: Etch |
| 16:46.59 | jmartens | Fubarovic: sid is *always* the name of unstable. |
| 16:47.00 | dragontii | sid is the unstable branch |
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| 16:47.15 | jmartens | Fubarovic: it never changes. Just testing and stable change. |
| 16:47.23 | wouterrr | hello |
| 16:47.27 | Fubarovic | oh ok |
| 16:47.29 | Fubarovic | thx |
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| 16:47.33 | wouterrr | which channel is this? |
| 16:47.37 | mixter | hi! how could i choose wich kernel to boot with grub? it seems to be quite some options, could anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 16:47.49 | jmartens | dragontii: Thanks for the tip, that was the problem. |
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| 16:48.08 | wouterrr | ah debian |
| 16:48.24 | dragontii | jmartens ive got the same problem, others application with alias are inversed so.. |
| 16:48.43 | dimitri | hi there, there seems to be a package of php4-ming for the oldstable but not for sarge, anyidea why and is there an equivalent ? |
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| 16:50.33 | moshii | i'm trying to build a mipsel base using debootstrap on i386 box, but it pukes when it tries to go into the mipsel base to configure stuff because the host machine can't run mips binaries, any ideas? |
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| 16:50.39 | clautio | using iptables |
| 16:50.46 | clautio | by default, if -A OUTPUT is not defined, iptables try to use DROP or ACCEPT? |
| 16:50.51 | Fubarovic | mixter: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 16:50.57 | Fubarovic | everything is in there |
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| 16:51.41 | mixter | Fubarovic: ok! that is where... i've looking in /etc (i'm used to lilo) should i run grub after editing? |
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| 16:52.02 | Fubarovic | nope :) |
| 16:52.12 | Fubarovic | all you need to do is edit that menu.lst |
| 16:52.16 | tobiask | moshii: what did you expect? |
| 16:52.17 | Fubarovic | grub reads it while booting |
| 16:52.18 | p3rti | hi |
| 16:52.21 | mixter | Fubarovic: just edit and reboot? feels strange :-) |
| 16:52.22 | Fubarovic | i dunno how, it's magic |
| 16:52.24 | Fubarovic | yeah |
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| 16:52.34 | dragontii | mixter not strange, grub know where found kernel |
| 16:52.35 | Fubarovic | even if you fsck up, you can edit it at boottime |
| 16:52.38 | moshii | tobiask: well, how do you build a mipsel environment on a i386 then? ^^ |
| 16:52.38 | Tarantulafudge | how do I use isa devices? |
| 16:52.40 | Fubarovic | press "e" in the bootmenu |
| 16:52.48 | Fubarovic | those changes aren't permanent tho |
| 16:52.48 | tobiask | moshii: cross-compile |
| 16:52.55 | Fubarovic | but you'll be able to boot into your system |
| 16:52.55 | moshii | tobiask: what it does manage to build runs on my WRT :) |
| 16:53.10 | moshii | tobiask: um, why do I want to cross compile, it's already compiled! |
| 16:53.31 | Tarantulafudge | anyone know? |
| 16:53.57 | moshii | tobiask: debootstrap tries to mount proc inside the chroot and fails because mount inside the root is mips :/ |
| 16:54.04 | dimitri | so nobody for ph4-ming in Sarge ? |
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| 16:54.28 | tobiask | moshii: the installation should go find, no? everythink should be there, just that debootstrap evidently cannot do anything further when chrooting into the installation. |
| 16:54.29 | mixter | Fubarovic: huge thanks! you saved me a lot of time |
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| 16:54.55 | dimitri | I would have thought that packages from Woody would have followed up in Sarge, |
| 16:55.00 | mixter | Fubarovic: changed the order and rebooted, now my system uses the kernel i want as default. thanks! |
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| 16:55.44 | tobiask | moshii: maybe you can create /mips/proc upfront and mount it from your host via "mount -o bind -t proc proc /mips/proc" |
| 16:55.50 | moshii | tobiask: I can't install on the MIPS thing directly, it's unsupported, doesn't even have any real storage .. I'm mounting the debian environment over NFS and chroot then pivot_root'ing the device |
| 16:55.50 | Tarantulafudge | isapnptools? is that it? |
| 16:55.52 | dragontii | grub is nice |
| 16:55.53 | tobiask | moshii: and then deboostrap? |
| 16:56.17 | moshii | tobiask: I think debootstrap runs the local dpkg as well, that'll fail too :( |
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| 16:57.13 | tobiask | moshii: slowly, i don't understand. you want to prepare an installation on your computer and then transfer it to your mips device, right? |
| 16:57.14 | seksi | is there someone who have ISDN modem??? I need help with Debian and ISDN modem!!! |
| 16:57.37 | azeem | seksi: no need for more than one `?' or `!' |
| 16:57.38 | dimitri | ming php sarge ? |
| 16:57.45 | azeem | seksi: just state your problem, maybe somebody knows |
| 16:58.14 | tobiask | moshii: so let's say you want to debootstrap into /home/moshii/mips then "mkdir ~/mips/proc" |
| 16:58.17 | seksi | azeem, do your own, let me live my life :) |
| 16:58.21 | moshii | tobiask: the mips device is a WRT router with OpenWRT .. I need to create a debian environment that the router will mount by nfs and switch into |
| 16:58.24 | azeem | seksi: huh? |
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| 16:58.48 | tobiask | moshii: "mount -o bind /proc /home/moshii/mips/proc" |
| 16:58.52 | moshii | tobiask: the problem isn't just proc, I think debootstrap runs dpkg within the chroot too, which ain't going to work |
| 16:59.17 | tobiask | moshii: if it does it that way, then it's not going to work. right. |
| 16:59.43 | moshii | tobiask: unless I can stop debootstrap its got to the chroot stage, then I can mount it on the device and finish it there |
| 17:00.07 | yos87 | when I mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1, It say you must specify the filesystem type, how to specify filesystem type? |
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| 17:00.25 | moshii | yos87: -t |
| 17:00.35 | moshii | yos87: i.e. -t xfs |
| 17:00.37 | tobiask | moshii: then i suggest you edit deboostrap and find a way to make it do what you need and then quit. it's just a script. |
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| 17:00.44 | seksi | azeem, i u can't help me, leave me alone... |
| 17:00.52 | seksi | azeem, :) |
| 17:01.13 | p3rti | i have a little question. i have hal and gnome-volume manager installed. so when i insert a cd it mount auomatic.. but i have to access to /media/cdrom because if i try to access with the option of the desktop it say that its already mounted. |
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| 17:01.20 | p3rti | the same with totem when i say open from cdrom |
| 17:01.40 | moshii | tobiask: yeah, I just thought some ARM guys might have done this before |
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| 17:02.06 | yos87 | moshii: you mean mount /dev/hdc /mnthda1 -t ntfs? |
| 17:02.17 | tobiask | moshii: you just said, you "could then mount it on the device". how das that work? just curious? |
| 17:02.23 | moshii | yos87: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc /mnt/ |
| 17:02.39 | Tarantulafudge | nobody knows how to use an isa card? |
| 17:03.09 | moshii | tobiask: OpenWRT is a linux distro for the linksys WRT routers ... I can ssh to it and do mount -t nfs machine:/mipsroot /mnt ;) |
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| 17:03.26 | moshii | tobiask: then I can do chroot /mnt and pivot_root for a hostile takeover |
| 17:03.46 | moshii | tobiask: but the current environment I have doesn't work enough |
| 17:03.48 | heny | how can i create a new tar-archive with /home/csturnier1/* as content? |
| 17:03.55 | moshii | heny: tar -c |
| 17:04.00 | yos87 | moshii : it say, mount pint /mnt/hdc does not exist |
| 17:04.04 | heny | tar -c /home/csturnier1/* |
| 17:04.04 | heny | ? |
| 17:04.06 | azeem | heny: /msg dpkg tar |
| 17:04.15 | heny | ? |
| 17:04.15 | moshii | heny: otherwise known as man tar |
| 17:04.16 | azeem | heny: or read the manpage |
| 17:04.19 | heny | i did |
| 17:04.20 | heny | tar -c /home/csturnier1/* |
| 17:04.24 | heny | and now the screen flashes |
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| 17:04.28 | moshii | yos87: mkdir /mnt/hdc |
| 17:04.28 | heny | and there are strange signs |
| 17:04.30 | heny | everywhere |
| 17:04.31 | heny | oO |
| 17:04.42 | azeem | you did not specify a file it should use to put the archive in |
| 17:04.48 | moshii | heny: that's because it's dumping to stdout |
| 17:04.51 | Tarantulafudge | anyone? |
| 17:04.51 | azeem | so it outputs the archive to the terminal |
| 17:04.54 | moshii | ;) |
| 17:04.56 | heny | moshii: is that a problem? |
| 17:05.16 | azeem | no, but it seems you don't want it to do so |
| 17:05.22 | UncleSkunk | offtopic.. did dalnet blow up? |
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| 17:05.24 | azeem | add -f foo.tar |
| 17:05.27 | moshii | heny: you need to redirect it into a file unless you're going to pass it into something else like gzip |
| 17:05.30 | seksi | is there someone who have ISDN modem? I need help with Debian and ISDN modem! |
| 17:05.40 | heny | moshii: so how to create a real tar with it? |
| 17:05.46 | seksi | azeem, with one '!' and one '?' :) |
| 17:05.54 | azeem | seksi: thanks |
| 17:05.59 | moshii | heny: tar -cf mytar.tar /myinput |
| 17:06.32 | moshii | heny: if you want to keep permissions and so forth you'll need to read the manual |
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| 17:06.38 | heny | /home/csturnier/* |
| 17:06.39 | heny | ? |
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| 17:06.58 | p3rti | moshii, what you recommend to make documentation for linux very simple. like the howto's |
| 17:07.22 | dragontii | p3rti nothing is better than a book |
| 17:07.46 | moshii | p3rti: very simple? dunno the problem is people that know things think everyone else does too |
| 17:07.51 | p3rti | dragontii, i know.. but i want wrote some experiences that i have with linux.. like a howto. |
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| 17:07.59 | dragontii | oh |
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| 17:08.16 | p3rti | moshii, :S |
| 17:08.16 | moshii | p3rti: like my mate was installing a cobalt over nfs today .. the guide was good, but didn't tell him how to setup nfs, just said "export this" |
| 17:08.26 | UncleSkunk | moshii: I totally agree. I hate trying to figure something out through a book that thinks I know what they do. |
| 17:08.26 | dragontii | p3rti well you need to compare linux wit some real-life thing |
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| 17:08.59 | przem | Does anyone write scripts in awk? |
| 17:09.05 | azeem | !anyone |
| 17:09.05 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:09.10 | stouset | How do commands like ls determine whether or not they're attached to a live tty versus a pipe, and therefore use one column for output or multiple columns? |
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| 17:09.12 | p3rti | dragontii, ok.. i have some experiences that i want to share. with the people of my city.. |
| 17:09.15 | p3rti | thanks for all |
| 17:09.17 | moshii | UncleSkunk: yeah, I'm writing guides for Japanese and Chinese input at the moment, keep forgetting most people don't know what XIM is etc |
| 17:09.28 | yos87 | moshii : But how to know where is my partition? |
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| 17:09.59 | bpenn | Are there any initrd mavens online? |
| 17:10.02 | moshii | yos87: as in where is attached to linux, for example /dev/hdc? |
| 17:10.22 | moshii | bpenn: you mean people that know how they work? |
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| 17:10.38 | tobiask | moshii: have you tried "debootstrap --foreign"? |
| 17:10.52 | moshii | tobiask: oh, didn't know it had that! |
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| 17:11.06 | yos87 | moshii : there is many file in dev folder, actually I have only 3 partition, how to know where is them? |
| 17:11.15 | dannythm | hello there! |
| 17:11.28 | bpenn | ppl who know would be a good start... I have to get a initrd.img back on to my HPPA machine. Somehow mine is completely gone. |
| 17:11.45 | przem | How can I modify enviroment variables in awk? |
| 17:11.48 | dragontii | yos87, type df |
| 17:11.52 | dannythm | can anyone help me with a problem booting win XP with grub? |
| 17:11.53 | moshii | yos87: the general rules are so; First IDE channel, master = hda and partitions are 1,2 etc |
| 17:12.08 | moshii | yos87: First IDE channel slave = hdb |
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| 17:12.09 | Tarantulafudge | common im begging you guys |
| 17:12.27 | moshii | yos87: Second channel master = hdc and so forth |
| 17:12.44 | yos87 | moshii: thank you |
| 17:12.50 | dannythm | I've installed it in my slave disk and when I put in the menu.lst the parametres (I think they are correct 'cause it's like the example) |
| 17:12.53 | moshii | unless someone has changed the majors on your dev nodes just to be a bastard :) |
| 17:12.53 | bpenn | I can boot the pc from a CD, but being HPPA there isn't any cool recovery tool or command line options like in the x86 distros. |
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| 17:13.20 | abrotman | Tarantulafudge: really .. read the isapnp docs |
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| 17:13.26 | bpenn | Is there a better channel for HPPA support? |
| 17:13.27 | moshii | bpenn: can you boot a debian cd? |
| 17:13.28 | dragontii | Tarantulafudge, well let the system trie to alocate the right driver to your isa card, sometime you must precise the io adress and irq |
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| 17:13.44 | seksi | is there someone who have ISDN modem? I need help with Debian and ISDN modem! |
| 17:13.45 | dannythm | when I boot and select the OS it tells me "filesystem unrecogniced. Partition type 0x7" |
| 17:13.47 | Tarantulafudge | dragontii: let the system? what? |
| 17:13.53 | iwilcox | 'lo chaps. Lately whenever I switch from X to a virtual console and back to X, on returning to X my pointer/keyboard have always been grabbed by something. Is there an easy way to find out what's doing the grab? |
| 17:13.59 | moshii | bpenn: if you can boot a debian cd you can mount your root, chroot into it and reinstall the kernel/initrd :) |
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| 17:14.14 | tobiask | moshii: i'd be interested in the outcome. i have one of them router myself, but haven't been brave enough to install OpenWRT. if it's possible to get debian on there, i might... |
| 17:14.15 | argent | iwilcox: do you run gpm on console? |
| 17:14.15 | przem | How can I modify enviroment variables in awk? |
| 17:14.29 | iwilcox | argent: Yep. |
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| 17:14.31 | bpenn | moshii: OOoooh that shounds cool. |
| 17:14.32 | dannythm | so how can I solve the problem and boot win correctly? |
| 17:14.35 | abrotman | przem: that's a bit vague |
| 17:14.42 | argent | iwilcox: so that's grabbing the mouse |
| 17:14.45 | moshii | tobiask: well, if I can get debian running, i'll take openwrt apart and make a new firmware that'll boot debian |
| 17:14.54 | moshii | bpenn: can you boot a debian cd? |
| 17:14.58 | iwilcox | argent: No, I mean some X client is doing a grab. GPM uses the multiplex. |
| 17:15.01 | daft | Some friend of mine has installed debian but his pc freezes when some sound is played. (alsa ) |
| 17:15.06 | reco | what kind of font formats can debian 3.1 handle? |
| 17:15.10 | iwilcox | argent: And has been working fine for many mooooons :) |
| 17:15.12 | dannythm | abrotman: I found something to do with my comp to not stay bored |
| 17:15.13 | bpenn | moshii yes |
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| 17:15.20 | dannythm | abrotman: =P |
| 17:15.23 | moshii | bpenn: can you see a boot: prompt? |
| 17:15.32 | kreg | dammit debian. i have K's on all 6 runlevels and yet portmap still starts |
| 17:15.32 | argent | iwilcox: i dunno then |
| 17:15.34 | Tarantulafudge | dragontii: you there? |
| 17:15.43 | bpenn | moshii: No it goes straight into setup |
| 17:15.55 | dragontii | Tarantulafudge, read the isapnp doc |
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| 17:15.57 | bpenn | I can break into a shell whent that starts tho. |
| 17:16.01 | wwallace_lap | hello how do i change from OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect to direct rendering: yes ? |
| 17:16.11 | moshii | bpenn: go to the shell |
| 17:16.33 | Tarantulafudge | dragontii: i'm trying |
| 17:16.35 | moshii | bpenn: you might need to let the cdrom detection etc run first so that you have some hardware support loaded |
| 17:16.45 | Tarantulafudge | dragontii: this is post install |
| 17:16.47 | bpenn | The I'm doing this on a HPPA-RISC machine. FYI |
| 17:16.54 | Tarantulafudge | dragontii: I added some hardware |
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| 17:16.57 | yos87 | moshii : I didn't fine my fat32 partition using df! |
| 17:16.59 | wwallace_lap | hello how do i change from OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect to direct rendering: yes ? |
| 17:17.08 | moshii | bpenn: yeah, all the same once a kerenl is running ;) |
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| 17:17.24 | przem | abrotman: I want to write script in awk, and i want to modify for instance variable PATH in that program, so after finishing program in awk that variable will be modified. |
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| 17:17.29 | bpenn | excellent that is what I was hoping. |
| 17:17.41 | moshii | yos87: what drive is it on first master? and what partition number is it? |
| 17:17.43 | dragontii | Tarantulafudge, first search google to know if this card is supported |
| 17:17.50 | dragontii | and if require isapnp |
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| 17:17.53 | dannythm | cna anyone help me solving this error messge when I select a bootable partition with grub? "filesystem unknown: Partition type 0x7" or something like that |
| 17:17.58 | wwallace_lap | hello how do i change from OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect to direct rendering: yes ? |
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| 17:18.10 | abrotman | przem: i don't personally know .. but that's a better question than your previous one |
| 17:18.17 | Tarantulafudge | dragontii: I don't even know what card it is because it doesn't show up in lspci |
| 17:18.18 | burk | anyone knows how to get grub to work ... just stands and blinks... nothing happens .. |
| 17:18.24 | bpenn | It's loading the modules now, via setup. |
| 17:18.25 | przem | brotman:okey |
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| 17:18.33 | yos87 | moshii: it's the second partition, I don't know which drive is it? |
| 17:18.41 | abrotman | przem: there's nothing in the man page? |
| 17:18.44 | moshii | bpenn: can you get another shell while that's going? |
| 17:18.52 | bpenn | sure. |
| 17:18.54 | dragontii | Tarantulafudge, ask moshii |
| 17:18.55 | moshii | yos87: ls /proc/ide .. what do you have there? |
| 17:18.57 | dragontii | maybe he know |
| 17:18.57 | abrotman | przem: i mean .. normally you use export PATH=blahblbhalblah |
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| 17:19.15 | moshii | bpenn: if you ls do you have mnt etc? |
| 17:19.27 | przem | abrotman: I haven't found something like that in man |
| 17:19.32 | yos87 | moshii: hdc , ide1 , via |
| 17:19.42 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: can you help me? |
| 17:19.48 | moshii | yos87: are your drives sata by any chance? |
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| 17:19.56 | przem | abrotman: yes but it doesn't work |
| 17:19.57 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: what's the problem? |
| 17:19.58 | yos87 | no, not sata |
| 17:20.01 | yos87 | it's ide |
| 17:20.12 | bpenn | No mnt, but cdrom, bin, usr, and so on. |
| 17:20.17 | moshii | yos87: you only have hdc, is that your harddisk? |
| 17:20.28 | abrotman | Tarantulafudge: of course it won't show up in lspci .. it's ISA |
| 17:20.38 | moshii | bpenn: ok, you should be able to do mount /dev/yourroot /cdrom |
| 17:20.48 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: I installed isa cards after installation and I'm not sure what to do in order to use it, I think one of the isa cards is an Symbios 53C416 (HP version) SCSI adapter |
| 17:20.55 | moshii | bpenn: i think it's ro, so you can't create a nicely named mountpoint |
| 17:21.03 | bpenn | It looks as though it's already mounted the CD |
| 17:21.27 | moshii | bpenn: ah, maybe there is a directory called target? |
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| 17:21.34 | przem | abrotman: AWK has it's own functions similar to C and there isn't any EXPORT or something like that |
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| 17:21.38 | moshii | bpenn: you just need somewhere to mount your root |
| 17:21.51 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: you need to detect non-pnp hardware I think |
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| 17:22.26 | bpenn | in root I have bin cdrom dev etc floppy init initrd lib proc sbin sys tmp usr and var |
| 17:22.40 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: forgive me, but I've never had to work with isa on *nix |
| 17:22.44 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: if you know what hardware it is, and what driver it needs just modprobe the module :) |
| 17:22.51 | bpenn | can i JUST mkdir? |
| 17:22.56 | moshii | bpenn: ah, mount it to floppy :) |
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| 17:22.59 | dannythm | but if I dissconect the hd0 windows boots correctly |
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| 17:23.03 | szazxszep | cahoot: i still have the problem. i have samba and cups on my pc. and there are some win98 clients, and 2 printers, which connect to one of the win98 computers. the first one works, i've made it on the default port (631 in a browser). but the second doesn't print anything from here. that is a lexmark x1190. i don't know what to do. at the moment i am trying LogLevel debug2 :S where is the problem? here, on the windows, or on the printer? |
| 17:23.04 | bpenn | kk |
| 17:23.07 | moshii | bpenn: you could but I think that the fs there is read only |
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| 17:23.25 | yos87 | moshii: he ask me to specify the file system again when mound hdc |
| 17:23.35 | abrotman | przem: maybe try #awk ? |
| 17:23.48 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: alright, its modprobed, now what/ |
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| 17:23.54 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: you need to tell it which partition you want from hdc .. hdc1 hdc2 and so forth |
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| 17:24.21 | bpenn | mounted on floppy |
| 17:24.22 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: if you run dmesg you might see some output from the module |
| 17:24.23 | dannythm | heeeellooo? |
| 17:24.33 | moshii | bpenn: cool, chroot /floppy /bin/sh |
| 17:24.35 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: sweet, there it is |
| 17:24.37 | przem | abrotman: I don't fully understand :) |
| 17:24.42 | moshii | bpenn: welcome to your system |
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| 17:24.49 | abrotman | przem: there is an awk channel in #awk |
| 17:24.53 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: add the module to /etc/modules to have it loaded at boot |
| 17:24.56 | cahoot | szazxszep: sorry - never ever tried to print from linux to a win system |
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| 17:25.21 | szazxszep | cahoot:thank you :( |
| 17:25.21 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: man you rock, thanks so much |
| 17:25.23 | irc | hey guys, is there a decent frontend to gdb in gtk/gnome? |
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| 17:25.24 | dimitri | any idea why the package lib-ming and php4-ming are no more included in Sarge ? they were in woody |
| 17:25.26 | dan2 | abrotman, how are ya man |
| 17:25.29 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: no problem :) |
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| 17:25.34 | bpenn | Shweet, can I run mkinitrd now? |
| 17:25.36 | przem | abrotman: thanks a lot I've just wanted to ask about some channels :) |
| 17:25.37 | dannythm | how can I solve this problem? |
| 17:25.40 | eeyroe- | i'd rather not use kdbg :-) |
| 17:25.44 | moshii | bpenn: yup :) |
| 17:25.51 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: *shutters at the sight of isapnptools* |
| 17:25.52 | abrotman | dan2: shouldn't you be in school? |
| 17:26.01 | moshii | bpenn: you can do most things, run apt and so forth |
| 17:26.08 | dimitri | abrotman: :) |
| 17:26.12 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: what about the isa dialup adapter? its a hardware modem, don't worry |
| 17:26.12 | cahoot | szazxszep: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html - maybe can be of use |
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| 17:26.15 | moshii | bpenn: if something goes wrong with your system you can fix it there |
| 17:26.26 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: I have absolutely no idea what card it is |
| 17:26.28 | bpenn | Awesome moshii, you rock. I'll let you know if I horse it up or have any questions. |
| 17:26.31 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: it'll be a serial port I think |
| 17:26.32 | clautio | one question, this iptables rule is it okay? |
| 17:26.35 | clautio | iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -d 192.168.1.0/24 --sport 20,21,80,443 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT |
| 17:26.39 | clautio | ? |
| 17:26.54 | abrotman | ask #iptables |
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| 17:27.01 | dannythm | Booting "windows XP" root(hd1,1) filesystem unknown partition type 0x7 |
| 17:27.10 | dannythm | how can I fix that? |
| 17:27.10 | moshii | bpenn: exit the chroot by typing exit to exit the shell, and you should be ok :) |
| 17:27.12 | eeyroe- | no takers for gdb frontend, gdb frontend != kdbg && gdb frontend != ddd ? |
| 17:27.28 | abrotman | dannythm: for starters .. paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst somewhere we can see it |
| 17:27.37 | dan2 | abrotman, spring break |
| 17:27.43 | abrotman | dan2: slacker! |
| 17:27.52 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: with ISA modems it was a serial port with a normal modem on the end, you should be able to get it working :) |
| 17:28.03 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: looks like I was wrong, isapnp: Card 'LT Win Modem' |
| 17:28.13 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: ah, not cool |
| 17:28.20 | dan2 | abrotman, I finally found a datafeed to get my futures historical data |
| 17:28.20 | dan2 | :) |
| 17:28.24 | abrotman | it's an ISA winmodem? |
| 17:28.25 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: get cable instead :) |
| 17:28.37 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: I have it, was just thinking about a backup ;) |
| 17:28.38 | abrotman | dan2: don't you have to pay for that? |
| 17:28.45 | dan2 | abrotman, usually |
| 17:28.46 | dannythm | abrotman: how was the web page wher I can post? |
| 17:28.47 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: dailup isn't backup |
| 17:28.49 | jmartens | I have to have allow users from M$ Active Directory to log in on a Debian Sarge machine. It seems like the two options are LDAP and winbind. Does anyone have experience with this kind of setup? |
| 17:28.51 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: I'll just have to get my cellphone to work instead |
| 17:28.53 | abrotman | !paste |
| 17:28.53 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 17:28.59 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: I can dial out through it :P |
| 17:29.18 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: going from 10mbit cable to 56k is akin to being dead |
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| 17:29.25 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: anyways, thanks a bunch |
| 17:29.31 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: lol |
| 17:29.33 | dan2 | abrotman, I finally collected enough data to complete the solution for the Japanese Yen |
| 17:29.35 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: have fun ^^. |
| 17:29.50 | abrotman | dan2: why didn't you just ask xoz? |
| 17:29.52 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: well the cellphone would be worse, at 115000kbps or whatever |
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| 17:29.59 | dan2 | whose xoz? |
| 17:30.41 | dannythm | quit |
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| 17:30.49 | abrotman | dan2: who's |
| 17:30.57 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: you know if anyone's goten a jazdrive to work? (its scsi) |
| 17:30.58 | moshii | dan2, the yen is a circle, did you know .. |
| 17:30.58 | dan2 | abrotman, who is it |
| 17:31.02 | abrotman | dan2: i think you should go play outside :) |
| 17:31.04 | konfuzed | this is of course very important stuff http://www.twistedhumor.com/program_files/knowjackschitt.html |
| 17:31.08 | abrotman | dan2: he's a guy in #d from .jp iirc |
| 17:31.14 | dan2 | heh |
| 17:31.15 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: I had a zip working once, google linux jazz drive |
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| 17:31.58 | moshii | Netbsd is more active in japan than debian it seems. |
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| 17:32.38 | moshii | Tarantulafudge: a cdburner is probably a wiser choice, jazz disks are expensive |
| 17:32.42 | dannythm | abrotman: i'm back |
| 17:32.48 | abrotman | dannythm: ok .. and? |
| 17:32.54 | dondelelcaro | moshii: there are a few jp Debian developeors too. |
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| 17:33.18 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: some guy was asking me to unban him .. yggdrasil or something |
| 17:33.22 | tecky | is there a problem with apt ? ... i cant get to any of the sources w/o getting a 111 connection error |
| 17:33.23 | moshii | dondelelcaro: the #debian-japanese channel is always empty, the lists a pretty quiet too |
| 17:33.32 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: a mindspring.com address |
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| 17:33.42 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yes, I saw... |
| 17:33.47 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ok ... |
| 17:33.48 | szazxszep | cahoot: thx, that was the first, but i read it once more |
| 17:33.54 | Nwallins | anyone know a terminal emulator (like minicom) that can script login authentication (i.e. automated, no user input)? |
| 17:34.08 | Petrov | where can i find a good guidebook for a webserver? |
| 17:34.18 | tecky | Petrov: man apache2 ? |
| 17:34.22 | dondelelcaro | moshii: right, most of the work happens on english speaking lists; so that's not too terribly surprising |
| 17:34.27 | lnc | is there any to make my terminal transparent, im using gnome |
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| 17:34.53 | Petrov | tecky: thx |
| 17:35.18 | moshii | dondelelcaro: yeah, the japanese lists are used mainly to find out how to get SCIM to work ;) |
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| 17:36.07 | moshii | all the japanese development happens in english, yet all the documentation is japanese .. ironic |
| 17:36.07 | dannythm | abrotman: I've posted it in #flood |
| 17:36.09 | tecky | anyone know about a problem when doing apt-get update ... gettting a (111 connection error) |
| 17:36.14 | abrotman | dannythm: i'm looking |
| 17:36.25 | moshii | tecky: bad mirror, bad connection |
| 17:36.39 | abrotman | dannythm: does OSX boot ? |
| 17:36.48 | LordNazgul | is there a way in aptitude to limit your searches to just installed packages or just not installed packages? |
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| 17:37.16 | moshii | LordNazgul: start your search in the installed packages heading |
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| 17:37.17 | tecky | moshii: but its every mirror i select ... and its not only this box ... and not only this connection |
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| 17:37.38 | LordNazgul | moshii but it will then go on to the not installed packages |
| 17:37.41 | moshii | tecky: can you connect to anything? does ping wwww.google.com |
| 17:37.44 | moshii | tecky: work |
| 17:37.49 | Shadowcat | tecky: then fix your connection |
| 17:37.50 | tecky | moshii: yes it does |
| 17:37.56 | Shadowcat | obviously it's not apt's problem |
| 17:37.59 | tecky | Shadowcat: I stated its not the connection |
| 17:38.05 | moshii | LordNazgul: hmm true |
| 17:38.07 | tecky | i can connect to google /yahoo etc.. |
| 17:38.20 | Shadowcat | then try connecting to an apt mirror using ftp/http |
| 17:38.21 | moshii | tecky: how about pinging the mirror you're using |
| 17:38.24 | tecky | i can browse to the url's using links / elinks / links2 etc.. |
| 17:38.26 | dannythm | abrotman: yes |
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| 17:38.40 | tecky | moshii: it doesn't matter what mirror i use ... all of them do it |
| 17:38.50 | Shadowcat | tecky: do what I told you to do |
| 17:38.52 | tecky | i just wondered if it was a pubicly known problem |
| 17:38.52 | dondelelcaro | tecky: paste the exact output that you're seeing from apt-get. You've run apt-get update, recently, right. |
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| 17:39.04 | Shadowcat | connect to the mirrors using ftp/http |
| 17:39.04 | tecky | dondelelcaro: yep |
| 17:39.16 | ooev | hi all, an out of topic ques: this irc supports SSL? |
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| 17:39.34 | dondelelcaro | ooev: possibly, but I don't know why you'd bother. |
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| 17:39.39 | tecky | Pegasus:/home/tecky# apt-get update |
| 17:39.40 | tecky | Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages |
| 17:39.40 | tecky | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.44 | tecky | thats what i get |
| 17:39.56 | dondelelcaro | tecky: that's a mirror which is down. |
| 17:39.58 | Shadowcat | tecky: again, CAN YOU CONNECT to them via regular ftp/http? |
| 17:40.02 | dondelelcaro | tecky: just run the command again. |
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| 17:40.04 | ooev | dondelelcaro: just curious |
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| 17:40.06 | abrotman | dannythm: what you've done seems correct |
| 17:40.36 | vin` | ooev: #freenode may know the details. |
| 17:40.40 | jcole | i want dpkg-buildpackage to append "-oracle" to a rebuilt tora package (ie: "tora-oracle") so it doesn't conflict with the existing "tora" package... what parameter is it?i want a make-kpkg "append-to-version" equivalent |
| 17:40.41 | dondelelcaro | tecky: you're probably getting a working mirror in the round robin when you use elinks, and the non-working one with apt-get. |
| 17:41.01 | tecky | dondelelcaro: none of them work |
| 17:41.02 | dondelelcaro | jcole: there isn't one. You have to edit debian/control. |
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| 17:41.05 | Shadowcat | jcole: start editing control files |
| 17:41.12 | tecky | thats just the funny thing |
| 17:41.13 | ooev | vin`: thanks. :-p |
| 17:41.14 | dondelelcaro | tecky: which ones have you tried? |
| 17:41.14 | abrotman | dannythm: where's the first part of the file? |
| 17:41.31 | tecky | mit / secsup / berk / pair |
| 17:41.35 | tecky | what else should i try |
| 17:41.39 | zood_ | Why would `locate wine` show /usr/share/wine/ when that directory doesn't actually exist? |
| 17:41.50 | moshii | tecky: are you only getting an error about the security source? |
| 17:41.55 | dondelelcaro | tecky: uh... I can connect to them just fine here. What happens when you telnet 128.101.240.212 80; on that machine? |
| 17:41.59 | tecky | moshii: nope every source |
| 17:42.02 | jcole | dondelelcaro: ah, ok, that explains why googling to all hell didn't help, lol |
| 17:42.13 | vin` | zood_: ran updatedb? |
| 17:42.18 | dragontii | zood locate is not up to date, if you erase wine, wait a day before updatedb launch |
| 17:42.28 | dragontii | or run manually yes.. |
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| 17:42.28 | dondelelcaro | jcole: those packages will conflict anyway, though, so I don't know why you're doing that. |
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| 17:42.38 | moshii | tecky: you should make your new package conflict with the old one so that you don't step on toes |
| 17:42.40 | dondelelcaro | jcole: since you can't have two packages installed which install the same files... |
| 17:42.51 | Corridor | lu |
| 17:42.54 | zood_ | tnx |
| 17:43.10 | moshii | tecky: sorry, wrong person |
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| 17:44.03 | moshii | jcole: if you change the package name you should make it conflict with the other one, if it's just for your use bump the version up |
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| 17:44.13 | tecky | odd ... now it works w/ apt-get update |
| 17:44.28 | tecky | odd ... now it works w/ apt-get update |
| 17:44.30 | tecky | blah |
| 17:44.36 | dondelelcaro | ... |
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| 17:44.39 | moshii | tecky: I think you have some router issues |
| 17:44.58 | tecky | moshii: perhaps ... its a pix 501 sitting between me and the net ... and i've heard of odd shit like this |
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| 17:45.21 | tecky | i just wasn't sure if it was me or the i-net |
| 17:45.56 | moshii | tecky: "telnet machine port" is a good test if stuff isn't work |
| 17:46.00 | grendal_prime | i got another werid problem here..my routers are all debian routers. For some reason im getting a bad resolution on a domain name. now the name changed about a month ago. and the bad(old ip) resolution only seems to happen in the mornings. by routers i thought were not caching any dns. how would i check that? |
| 17:46.04 | moshii | tecky: tcpdump is pretty handy too |
| 17:46.15 | grendal_prime | by the way when i traceroute this domain it stops right at my routers |
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| 17:48.11 | szazxszep | what can i do with an error_log ? :D |
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| 17:48.30 | grendal_prime | umm look at the error_log |
| 17:48.50 | grendal_prime | its used to ....well Log ERRORS |
| 17:49.10 | grendal_prime | its funny sometimes if you just switch the words around...it gives you a better description |
| 17:49.18 | zarathustra | hello, after an upgrade in etch, evolution doesnt work. has anybody of you the same problem ? |
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| 17:49.38 | grendal_prime | config file |
| 17:49.40 | grendal_prime | file config |
| 17:49.44 | grendal_prime | pretty cool hu |
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| 17:49.59 | grendal_prime | zarathustra, etch is testing..its probably not being tested yet |
| 17:50.09 | elephantMan | Hi all |
| 17:50.14 | grendal_prime | dpkg !testing |
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| 17:50.24 | dragontii | !dpkg testing |
| 17:50.24 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 17:50.24 | elephantMan | Is there a way to stop Apache when the server is overloaded ? |
| 17:50.25 | dragontii | :D |
| 17:50.35 | elephantMan | Because overload cause my whole server to crash |
| 17:50.51 | grendal_prime | /etc/init.d/apache2 stop |
| 17:51.11 | elephantMan | Its due to connexion overload on a ressource consuming http app |
| 17:51.11 | dragontii | elephantman you mean in an autamated way |
| 17:51.26 | elephantMan | dragontii, yes |
| 17:51.29 | grendal_prime | sounds like a db gone apeshit to me |
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| 17:51.32 | Nwallins | elephantMan: try #apache, and there are settings in httpd.conf / apache2.conf that can help limit resources |
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| 17:51.41 | dragontii | elephantman try #apache |
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| 17:51.51 | szazxszep | grendal_prime: can you help me? |
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| 17:51.56 | grendal_prime | anyone on the dns cash issue |
| 17:52.00 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 17:52.03 | grendal_prime | cach that is |
| 17:52.12 | abrotman | cache |
| 17:52.19 | dragontii | lol |
| 17:52.28 | grendal_prime | ya that too |
| 17:52.29 | cahoot | #debianspell |
| 17:52.29 | grendal_prime | hahaha |
| 17:52.31 | myboxen | im using a terminal emulator (putty) to connect to my debian server. using vim I get mono chorm (black and white) text, I typed syntax on, and color elflord, it changed to bold and no bolded text, and underlined some characters, but still no color. any ideas? |
| 17:52.59 | grendal_prime | i got another werid problem here..my routers are all debian routers. For some reason im getting a bad resolution on a domain name. now the name changed about a month ago. and the bad(old ip) resolution only seems to happen in the mornings. by routers i thought were not caching any dns. how would i check that? |
| 17:53.02 | moshii | myboxen: you need to set your terminal type |
| 17:53.10 | myboxen | hrmm |
| 17:53.18 | dragontii | mybroxen man setterm |
| 17:53.19 | myboxen | its vt100 |
| 17:53.33 | myboxen | should it be xterm or linux |
| 17:53.43 | grendal_prime | szazxszep, i could try.....unless you want me to marry your sister or something like that..my wife wont allow any more marriages she says |
| 17:53.49 | moshii | myboxen: depends, what does putty want |
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| 17:54.04 | myboxen | well with other boxes it doesn't care |
| 17:54.50 | ao2 | hallo, does anyone know if the debpool developer intends to update its package? I know that debpool is only in experimental, but I consider it a good base for a minimal repository management tool. |
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| 17:55.16 | szazxszep | grendal_prime: my sister has a husband yet, and i have a boyfriend, so thx, i thought something else :) |
| 17:55.48 | moshii | ao2: maybe you should email the person that handles it, email address should be included in the package |
| 17:55.58 | abrotman | szazxszep: what do you want to do with it? |
| 17:56.00 | myboxen | moshii: I changed it to linux and it is working fine now. |
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| 17:56.06 | myboxen | moshii: thank you |
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| 17:56.16 | szazxszep | grendal prime: my problem is, that a shared printer doesn't work with linux |
| 17:56.27 | moshii | myboxen: no problem :) |
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| 17:56.42 | abrotman | linux-printing.org |
| 17:56.42 | szazxszep | abrotman: i don't know |
| 17:56.49 | szazxszep | :DD |
| 17:57.03 | sfullenwider | what's a decent postscript to anything else converter? |
| 17:57.17 | abrotman | sfullenwider: it depends on what you want to convert to |
| 17:57.22 | cahoot | ps2any |
| 17:57.41 | sfullenwider | anything mainstream, msword, jpg, pdf |
| 17:57.45 | heny | how do i change the userrights for a whole directory? |
| 17:57.52 | Nwallins | chmod |
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| 17:58.10 | cabbie | hello, does anyone know how to get Palm Z22 pda to sync with debian3.0? Had no trouble with older Handspring Visor but Z22 USB will not work with either 2.2.20 or 2.6.0 kernels... |
| 17:58.12 | heny | well i cant ftp into a certain dir, but i can dir into it |
| 17:58.13 | heny | !? |
| 17:58.21 | nkuttler | heny: you probably want to use the recursive option |
| 17:58.28 | abrotman | !find bin/ps2 sarge |
| 17:58.37 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/ps2' (6): (/usr/bin/ps2eps) in text/ps2eps ;; (/usr/bin/ps2lexmark) in admin/c2050 ;; (/usr/bin/ps2image) in tex/hyperlatex ;; (/usr/bin/{ps2frag|ps2pk}) in tex/tetex-bin ;; (/var/spool/hylafax/bin/ps2fax.gs) in comm/hylafax-server ;; (/usr/bin/{ps2ascii|ps2epsi|ps2pdf|...}) in text/gs-common. |
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| 17:59.12 | heny | nkuttler: what? |
| 17:59.29 | szazxszep | abrotman: why do you think that i dare to ask here anything without using google, and find those webpages? |
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| 17:59.54 | sfullenwider | well that was obivious, thanks abrotman |
| 18:00.09 | abrotman | szazxszep: huh ? |
| 18:00.14 | abrotman | szazxszep: oh .. |
| 18:00.15 | heny | i always get: |
| 18:00.15 | heny | 550 Failed to change directory. |
| 18:00.38 | abrotman | szazxszep: you'd be surprised what people don't use google for :) |
| 18:00.52 | abrotman | heny: permissions are probably wrong |
| 18:01.03 | heny | but this is only from ftp |
| 18:01.09 | heny | not from direct user |
| 18:01.21 | abrotman | and? |
| 18:01.50 | heny | so why then are probably permissions wrong? |
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| 18:02.07 | szazxszep | thx |
| 18:02.43 | loxley_ | guys, what is usually segmentation fault the cause of? |
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| 18:04.03 | dragontii | memory is often the cause |
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| 18:04.47 | Shadda | segmentation fault occurs when a program tries to make use of memory that hasn't been allocated to it |
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| 18:06.24 | loxley_ | dragontii: well, it happened on 2 boxes at the same time |
| 18:06.38 | dragontii | loxley_, you can see it like a protection |
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| 18:07.00 | loxley_ | dragontii: they have been working nice for like 360 days |
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| 18:07.16 | dragontii | loxley_ start it again |
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| 18:07.48 | loxley_ | dragontii: it happens on ls and df commands |
| 18:07.48 | tarzeau | abrotman: haha |
| 18:07.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: ? |
| 18:08.00 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh |
| 18:08.09 | foo | Is there anyway to have rsyc make the two drives match exactly? eg. If a file doesn't exist in live directory, delete it from the backup ... (only if it can read the file, if it can't read the file ignore) ..hmm, or something. |
| 18:08.20 | dragontii | loxley_, its maybe a rootkit with a modified version of ls and df binary |
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| 18:08.31 | loxley_ | dragontii: yup, that was what i was thinking about |
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| 18:08.58 | dragontii | loxley_, they are some stuff to look if its that |
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| 18:09.04 | dragontii | but i dont know the name heh |
| 18:09.06 | loxley_ | dragontii: and bash was displaying as connected to a 6667 port at undernet |
| 18:09.11 | demik | chkrootkit ? |
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| 18:09.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: it'll be sortable... soon |
| 18:09.22 | jmartens | loxley_: yikes... |
| 18:09.29 | loxley_ | demik: cant even use apt-get |
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| 18:09.33 | dino4k | hi, i just installed debian on my laptop from a dvd a get at the CeBit - the installer didn't ask me for a root pw :x -- what can i do now? |
| 18:09.34 | demik | :( |
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| 18:09.52 | jmartens | loxley_: At this point, even if you could remove the rootkit, I would just reformat the machine. |
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| 18:10.03 | abrotman | dino4k: use the real installer? |
| 18:10.05 | bleurgh | how do i stop the unable to verify warning in apt-get? |
| 18:10.08 | dragontii | i woulf reformat too |
| 18:10.18 | dino4k | abrotman: is there a not real installer? |
| 18:10.19 | loxley_ | jmartens: yup, allready did , you know the worst? it was ns servers |
| 18:10.39 | loxley_ | jmartens: nameservers.. |
| 18:10.45 | codec | Hey guys, I need to install the free linux version of corel photopaint. I thought about using an old version of debian. What version had glic 2.0/2.1 and what would be the best way to install it (link to minimal-image)? |
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| 18:10.59 | dragontii | loxley which kernel version |
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| 18:11.19 | loxley_ | dragontii: 2.4.25-1-386 |
| 18:11.34 | loxley_ | dragontii: so old shit |
| 18:11.47 | dragontii | maybe but i dont think the kernel is the cause |
| 18:12.09 | abrotman | dino4k: well .. i have no idea what they gave away at CeBit .. but the debian netinst certainly asks you to give a root passwd |
| 18:12.25 | loxley_ | dragontii: me niether, i think it could be a rootkit, i mean, bash displaying as connected to a ircserver, that sucks |
| 18:12.28 | abrotman | codec: i'm not sure you can anymore |
| 18:12.32 | abrotman | !archive |
| 18:12.33 | dpkg | archive is, like, a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Maybe: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive or even http://snapshot.debian.net |
| 18:12.33 | Fraze | How can I emerge several PDF files into one large? i'm using sarge |
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| 18:13.07 | dragontii | loxley_ the box was only for nameserver purpose, or some user remote has access? |
| 18:13.14 | cahoot | Fraze: pdftk should be able to do that |
| 18:13.21 | Fraze | cahoot: Thanks |
| 18:13.24 | codec | abrotman: any other way you can think of to get such an old system running? |
| 18:13.29 | pzn | Hi! I'm running debian sarge. I need to test a dhcp server. Is there any way to run a "dhcp client request" and get an IP address (but without configuring the interface), just to test the server? |
| 18:13.31 | loxley_ | dragontii: just the ppl that should from my company |
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| 18:14.14 | cheal | codec: potato had glibc 2.1. have fun! |
| 18:14.16 | dragontii | maybe a program with sticky bit |
| 18:14.20 | dino4k | abrotman: yeah, i know... i think i use the netinstall this time too - i just thought its the newer release ,... |
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| 18:14.35 | loxley_ | dragontii: but its like i am beeing punished for a setup i never made, some other dude that now has left set it up. and now the boss made me work over :/ |
| 18:14.38 | abrotman | dino4k: the current release is sarge |
| 18:14.44 | codec | cheal: what would be a good way to install it? doubt there's netinst images on the web |
| 18:14.50 | abrotman | codec: why do you want to use Paint? |
| 18:14.52 | codec | cheal: debootstrap maybe? |
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| 18:15.19 | codec | abrotman: a friend of mine has an old corel photopaint image, but no program seems to be able to open it nowadays |
| 18:15.23 | cheal | abrotman: no clue, maybe there are installation guides still |
| 18:15.34 | dragontii | loxley_ well reinstall, update as much you can... |
| 18:15.35 | abrotman | cheal: ? |
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| 18:15.50 | cheal | codec: ^^ |
| 18:15.55 | loxley_ | dragontii: yup, thanks for the help though :) |
| 18:15.55 | abrotman | codec: why doesn't it install on sarge? |
| 18:15.55 | cahoot | codec: not even imagemagick can handle it? |
| 18:16.03 | dragontii | loxley_ good luck |
| 18:16.28 | codec | cahoot: hm good idea haven't tried that one yet actually |
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| 18:17.56 | codec | cahoot: nope, no luck |
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| 18:18.08 | cahoot | codec: too bad |
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| 18:18.26 | codec | would debootstrap an option to install potato? |
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| 18:19.03 | abrotman | not likely |
| 18:19.12 | abrotman | codec: you can download the floppies maybe |
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| 18:19.42 | abrotman | codec: will floppies work? |
| 18:19.46 | simonrvn | er, difficult... you'd have to fetch the stuff from a.d.n |
| 18:20.02 | codec | abrotman: floppies are an option, yes |
| 18:20.03 | abrotman | the floppies are there .. but not the ISOs |
| 18:20.06 | abrotman | http://archive.debian.org/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/ |
| 18:20.15 | simonrvn | er, .o |
| 18:20.20 | abrotman | why can't you use the ASSUME_GLIB or whatever it is |
| 18:20.46 | simonrvn | ASSUME_KERNL, ASSUME_GLIBC IIRC |
| 18:20.49 | simonrvn | EL* |
| 18:20.53 | codec | didn't knew of it just until right now :) tell me more please |
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| 18:21.52 | abrotman | you do something like `ASSUME_GLIBC=2.1 <application>` |
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| 18:22.04 | abrotman | probably google would know more :) |
| 18:22.04 | demik | hmm, i'm trying to install sarge on a sun blade 100, and i've no clue where is the expert mode (the installer dosen't detect the cd-rom) |
| 18:22.13 | abrotman | expert26 ? |
| 18:22.27 | jonas22 | does anyone know much about compiling java in debian |
| 18:22.37 | Slyder | yes |
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| 18:22.47 | Slyder | the same way you would compile java on anything :] |
| 18:23.11 | abrotman | !install java |
| 18:23.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, install java is First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package>. |
| 18:23.14 | Slyder | have you installed the java1.5 sdk |
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| 18:23.26 | demik | abrotman, only linux and rescue :( |
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| 18:23.53 | jonas22 | i'm not really sure because it seems there are about 5 different implementations |
| 18:23.55 | jonas22 | of various pieces |
| 18:24.05 | Slyder | ah |
| 18:24.09 | Slyder | how did you install it |
| 18:24.12 | jonas22 | i only have (very limited) experience with the sun version but i'd rather use free versions only |
| 18:24.40 | jonas22 | i'm afraid in a rather haphazard way |
| 18:24.44 | Slyder | http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/debianjava.htm |
| 18:24.45 | Slyder | try that |
| 18:24.57 | Slyder | you need to make the .deb |
| 18:25.00 | Slyder | and then install from that |
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| 18:25.16 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 18:25.25 | jonas22 | there isn't anything in the repos? |
| 18:25.29 | abrotman | demik: what installer are you using ? |
| 18:25.31 | Slyder | not really |
| 18:25.36 | abrotman | jonas22: use them for waht? |
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| 18:25.49 | jonas22 | for writing something hopefully |
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| 18:26.12 | abrotman | i will tell you that the free VM/JDKs .. pretty much suck |
| 18:26.15 | jonas22 | i guess I'll just go and nuke everything related to java and start over :| |
| 18:26.28 | Tarantulafudge | moshii: you still there? |
| 18:26.28 | Slyder | use that page I sent you |
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| 18:26.54 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:26.54 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:27.02 | loggygreg | zarathustra: it's a bug in evolution (since some changes in libglib2) a temporary workaround is to export "G_SLICE=always-malloc" |
| 18:27.06 | abrotman | jonas22: if you read the docs about kaffe and sable .. they're useful for having a free java .. but not useful for any real work |
| 18:27.13 | demik | abrotman, netinst, from here : http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 18:27.14 | wam | Hi! I want to use the "nexus"- or "vga"-font in gnome-terminal in sid. Packet xfonts-nessus is installed, but I can't select it in my gnome-terminal-profile. How can I do this? |
| 18:27.26 | jonas22 | so i'm discovering, abrotman |
| 18:27.27 | abrotman | demik: then you have a expert26 option |
| 18:27.37 | tarzeau | wam: good terminals know -fn fontname |
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| 18:27.49 | tarzeau | wam: you might want to use xterm with screen |
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| 18:28.00 | jonas22 | do you recommend sun or ibm? |
| 18:28.14 | Slyder | ! |
| 18:28.45 | mfrisch | vncserver complains about fixed fonts Which package is that? |
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| 18:29.06 | tarzeau | jonas22: sun sucks |
| 18:29.09 | tarzeau | ibm sucks even more |
| 18:29.15 | dragontii | lol |
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| 18:29.23 | jonas22 | i guess i'd rather suck less |
| 18:29.28 | jonas22 | the java requirement isn't one of my own creation :( |
| 18:29.35 | Alexpj | Hi, can anyone help me with an etch problem? |
| 18:29.41 | tarzeau | Alexpj: just ask |
| 18:29.43 | kix | hello people, i cannot compile grub for 64bit, how does debian x86_64 have grub in it? |
| 18:29.50 | tarzeau | kix: huh? |
| 18:30.00 | kix | grub says it is suppored only for i386 (32bit) |
| 18:30.11 | tarzeau | kix: don't worry, just install, it'll work |
| 18:30.15 | mfrisch | kix working here |
| 18:30.16 | kix | and i cant compile it with x86_64 toolchain |
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| 18:30.22 | tarzeau | kix: don't bother |
| 18:30.35 | kix | tarzeau i need to compile it from source |
| 18:30.39 | azeem | kix: why? |
| 18:30.44 | tarzeau | kix: says who? |
| 18:30.51 | Alexpj | thanks tarzaeu: it's more a current grub problem really - the current official cd download of etch gives me a error 239 from grub |
| 18:30.52 | azeem | at least check the Debian package for additional patches then |
| 18:30.54 | kix | tarzeau i have some custom patches in it |
| 18:30.59 | kix | azeem custom patches |
| 18:31.01 | tarzeau | kix: like which? |
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| 18:31.27 | kix | tarzeau nothing standard, just experimental tweaks |
| 18:31.36 | yos87 | Hi, How can I fine my fat32 partition? |
| 18:31.45 | tarzeau | yos87: fdisk -l |
| 18:31.50 | Alexpj | is anyone else seeing this? beta1 was fine. |
| 18:31.52 | kix | but grub compiles only for 32bit compilers |
| 18:31.57 | tarzeau | kix: so? |
| 18:32.06 | tarzeau | kix: your 64bit computer can run 32bit code |
| 18:32.15 | tarzeau | heck it can even run 16bit and 8bit shit |
| 18:32.24 | kix | tarzeau i know that |
| 18:32.28 | tarzeau | actually it does so, the bios and bios extensions are not 32bit |
| 18:32.30 | azeem | kix: uhm, did you check whether there are additional patches in the Debian diff which might support amd64? |
| 18:32.47 | kix | azeem no, i'm new to debian.. where do i check |
| 18:32.51 | tarzeau | !newb |
| 18:32.51 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
| 18:32.59 | dragontii | lol |
| 18:33.02 | azeem | tarzeau: kix said "new to debian" |
| 18:33.07 | azeem | no need to bash here |
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| 18:33.31 | azeem | kix: add a deb-src line to sources.list and run apt-get source grub |
| 18:33.32 | yos87 | tarzeau: I get nothing |
| 18:33.32 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:33.36 | kix | tarzeau i know x86_64 runs 32bit code, but the 'gcc' compiler gives 64bit code.. which grub isnt happy about |
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| 18:33.37 | dragontii | dpkg is funny |
| 18:33.39 | tarzeau | azeem: it's not meant to be negative or bashing. it's just fun |
| 18:33.40 | azeem | kix: or download the .diff.gz at packages.debian.org/bash |
| 18:33.46 | azeem | tarzeau: for you |
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| 18:33.52 | tarzeau | kix: i see |
| 18:33.58 | tarzeau | azeem: also for kix? |
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| 18:34.08 | azeem | tarzeau: well, you're second-guessing here |
| 18:34.23 | simonrvn | kix are trids |
| 18:34.26 | tarzeau | kix: do you find #debian offending when people like me make dpkg tell things about words? |
| 18:34.27 | simonrvn | for* |
| 18:34.57 | kix | tarzeau as long as my problems are answered i dont give a crap about offensive messages |
| 18:34.58 | tarzeau | kix: oh wait you run debian gnu/linux amd64? |
| 18:35.05 | kix | tarzeau right |
| 18:35.06 | dragontii | tarzeau lol no this bot is funny |
| 18:35.11 | tarzeau | kix: but it's not even offending, is it? |
| 18:35.15 | Alexpj | tarzeau? where would I find a copy of beta1 CD image? |
| 18:35.24 | tarzeau | Alexpj: beta1? you mean |
| 18:35.25 | tarzeau | !d-i |
| 18:35.25 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 18:35.26 | kix | amd64 testing |
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| 18:35.51 | simonrvn | afk |
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| 18:36.32 | Alexpj | ?d-i |
| 18:36.40 | yos87 | when I type mount /dev/hda /mnt , he ask me to specify the file system, what is the file system for partition fat32 |
| 18:36.49 | tarzeau | yos87: usually people have partitions on harddisks |
| 18:36.50 | Alexpj | beta 1 of etch - decemnber 05 ish |
| 18:36.56 | tarzeau | yos87: try fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 18:37.04 | dragontii | yos87, vfat |
| 18:37.12 | tarzeau | Alexpj: i thought there's a later one, why must it be beta1 if there's a later one? |
| 18:37.21 | tarzeau | Alexpj: can you not stick to stable or go right to what's latest? |
| 18:37.30 | obscuresoul | does anyone knows a good lamp howto? |
| 18:37.35 | tarzeau | !lamp |
| 18:37.35 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} or maybe Linux Animation and Movie Player, at http://pauillac.inria.fr/lamp/ |
| 18:37.39 | LordNazgul | can anyone tell me what is wrong with this section. i have put it in my /etc/apt/apt.conf file http://www.pastebin.com/651891 |
| 18:37.46 | tarzeau | yos87: so you want /dev/hda1 or something like that |
| 18:37.46 | kix | azeem is it the .diff.gz in packages.debian.org/grub you mean? |
| 18:38.04 | Alexpj | Tarzeau: Because I can't get grub to pass stage 2 in the current cd image. it gives error 29 "write error" |
| 18:38.10 | yos87 | tarzeau: yea |
| 18:38.19 | azeem | kix: click through to testing, it is towards the bottom |
| 18:38.21 | yos87 | dragontii: does vfat package? |
| 18:38.43 | dragontii | yos87, is an option in kernel try mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows |
| 18:38.46 | tarzeau | Alexpj: and why not? |
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| 18:39.01 | tarzeau | Alexpj: which version of grub exactly? |
| 18:39.10 | tarzeau | Alexpj: you know you need maybe some patch so grub works on cd? |
| 18:39.20 | Alexpj | Tarzeau : 0.97 |
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| 18:39.43 | yos87 | dragontii: hda is not valid block device |
| 18:39.47 | tarzeau | Alexpj: compiled yourself? |
| 18:39.48 | yos87 | 1 |
| 18:39.57 | tarzeau | yos87: what says fdisk -l /dev/hda ? |
| 18:40.18 | tarzeau | Alexpj: i think you need a special patch if you want grub to work from cd |
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| 18:40.31 | yos87 | tarzeau: no error, just I press enter, seems he take the command |
| 18:40.31 | tarzeau | Alexpj: looked at grub2 yet? |
| 18:40.37 | obscuresoul | tarzeau: i meant "Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python}" :P |
| 18:40.40 | yos87 | tarzeau: no output |
| 18:40.46 | tarzeau | obscuresoul: yes that's what !lamp is talking about |
| 18:41.01 | Alexpj | Tarzeau: I think it may be a problem withthe installer - there re quite a few changes tween b1 and b2. But it would fail the basic tests .. so I'm confused. |
| 18:41.12 | tarzeau | Alexpj: i don't get what you try to do |
| 18:41.18 | tarzeau | yos87: no idea what command you try |
| 18:41.23 | tarzeau | yos87: fdisk -l /dev/hda ? |
| 18:41.35 | tarzeau | yos87: is it really hda? maybe sda? another device even? |
| 18:41.46 | yos87 | tarzeau: but how to know |
| 18:41.55 | dragontii | yos87 type df |
| 18:41.58 | Alexpj | Tarzeau: I'm trying to install etch from April 3 CD image. |
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| 18:42.08 | tarzeau | yos87: man, did you secretary build your computer? you know it. see dmesg, look into the computer |
| 18:42.16 | tarzeau | Alexpj: onto a harddisk? |
| 18:42.23 | tarzeau | Alexpj: you know etch is not stable. it might have problems |
| 18:42.26 | tarzeau | Alexpj: see BTS |
| 18:42.28 | Alexpj | Tarzeau: yes. |
| 18:42.30 | spo0nman | if a file already has data ... will tee append it or overight it? |
| 18:42.37 | yos87 | tarzeau: in my hdd have 3 partition , where is them? |
| 18:42.47 | tarzeau | spo0nman: with -a yes otherwise overwrites |
| 18:42.53 | yos87 | dragontii: df show one sda partition |
| 18:43.00 | tarzeau | yos87: on the harddisk. fdisk will give you details |
| 18:43.01 | spo0nman | tarzeau: thanks. |
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| 18:43.02 | unixfool_ | anyone know of a tool to graph the load (among other properties) of a machine over time? |
| 18:43.12 | tarzeau | yos87: so you've got some scsi or sata stuff? |
| 18:43.14 | Alexpj | Tarzeau: I know etch isn't stable - and so I figures it was just a temp problems with the installer. |
| 18:43.22 | tarzeau | unixfool_: gnuplot , mrtg, cacti... |
| 18:43.26 | yos87 | tarzeau: dmesg alot of error |
| 18:43.35 | yos87 | no scsi |
| 18:43.38 | Alexpj | tarz: so hence the request for a copy of beta1 etch. |
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| 18:44.16 | dragontii | your sda line in df may be for a usbkey |
| 18:44.18 | yos87 | tarzeau, I type fdisk, I had three partition, hda, sdc, eda |
| 18:44.30 | tarzeau | yos87: no that's not partitions |
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| 18:44.31 | yos87 | there is c0d0 |
| 18:44.34 | tarzeau | yos87: that's harddisks |
| 18:44.40 | tarzeau | yos87: the numbers are partitions |
| 18:44.45 | myren | hellloo #debian |
| 18:44.50 | tarzeau | !hi myren |
| 18:44.57 | kix | azeem tarzeau: the diff doesnt have anything 'special' to make it compile in 64bit |
| 18:45.03 | yos87 | so there is hda1 and 2 and 3 |
| 18:45.08 | yos87 | how to mount? |
| 18:45.14 | tarzeau | yos87: what filesystem is 1 2 3? |
| 18:45.20 | tarzeau | yos87: fdisk should tell you |
| 18:45.28 | yos87 | ntfs, fat32, ext3 |
| 18:45.49 | tarzeau | yos87: for ext3 you can check /etc/fstab |
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| 18:46.10 | tarzeau | yos87: for the others i use mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda5 /mnt for example |
| 18:46.14 | yos87 | I care about fat, because the file is shared with my win |
| 18:46.27 | Alexpj | tarzeau : any suggestions? |
| 18:46.36 | tarzeau | Alexpj: no |
| 18:46.36 | Alexpj | PLs. |
| 18:46.40 | myren | i had the weirdest problem with my recent kernel upgrade. it was just a revision upgrade, but it wasnt overwriting the existing modules. |
| 18:46.57 | heny | how can i view my current download speed? |
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| 18:47.03 | tarzeau | heny: iptraf can show |
| 18:47.07 | tarzeau | heny: so can wmnd |
| 18:47.07 | kix | heny iptraf |
| 18:47.39 | Alexpj | Ok: tarzeau : thanks. |
| 18:47.44 | yos87 | tarzeau: again you must spicfy the file system type |
| 18:47.55 | juliomam | Does anyone know what is /dev/disk and how to activate it? |
| 18:47.56 | tarzeau | yos87: cat /proc/filesystems shows vfat/ntfs? |
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| 18:48.02 | jonas22 | the instructions on that debianjava page worked well |
| 18:48.02 | tarzeau | yos87: try modprobe ntfs; modprobe vfat |
| 18:48.16 | tarzeau | yos87: usually you don't. but try with -t ntfs or -t vfat |
| 18:48.17 | kix | tarzeau can i see how the grub package for amd64 is built? the process i mean |
| 18:48.26 | tarzeau | kix: yes on buildd.debian.org |
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| 18:48.32 | tarzeau | kix: you can find logs of the build process |
| 18:48.41 | kix | that might help, let me try |
| 18:48.43 | tarzeau | kix: and the diff.gz is all the changes to the original source package |
| 18:48.56 | tarzeau | kix: which version of grub are we talking about? grub1 or 2? |
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| 18:49.02 | deadcat | where do i set the ssh timeout time? |
| 18:49.14 | kix | i dont understand why 'configure' is patched for a cvs release... doesnt the debian build run autotools? |
| 18:49.17 | tarzeau | deadcat: in its config file? |
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| 18:49.25 | kix | tarzeau grub1 (0.97) |
| 18:49.30 | yos87 | tarzeau, no out put |
| 18:49.34 | yos87 | tarzeau, sorry |
| 18:49.42 | tarzeau | yos87: what kernel do you have exactly? uname -a |
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| 18:50.12 | deadcat | tarzeau: what am i looking for.? |
| 18:50.19 | afinley | Hi can someone point me to a debain specific howto on setting up a general cvs? Thanks! |
| 18:50.35 | tarzeau | deadcat: what's the problem that you think you need to fiddle timeout? |
| 18:50.51 | deadcat | tarzeau: not me. my friend said he gets timeout after idle time |
| 18:50.52 | tarzeau | afinley: apt-get install cvs |
| 18:50.59 | tarzeau | deadcat: how much idle time? |
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| 18:51.04 | tarzeau | deadcat: does he have some crap firewall? |
| 18:51.05 | yos87 | linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 18:51.12 | deadcat | tarzeau: no clue |
| 18:51.19 | cusco | hi |
| 18:51.21 | tarzeau | deadcat: find out |
| 18:51.22 | yos87 | tarzeay: linux debian 2.4.27.2 |
| 18:51.29 | myren | omg wtf is going on |
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| 18:51.30 | cusco | anyone here with a zd1211 wireless chipset? |
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| 18:51.36 | deadcat | cusco: yes. it works fine |
| 18:51.37 | tarzeau | yos87: did you run modprobes i told you? |
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| 18:51.41 | Bleupomme | hi |
| 18:51.41 | afinley | tarzeau: thanks |
| 18:51.45 | tarzeau | yos87: cat /proc/filesystems MUST show lines |
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| 18:52.09 | Bleupomme | I have a question about downgrading a package |
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| 18:52.27 | Bleupomme | how do i downgrade from mysql 5 to mysql 4 |
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| 18:52.42 | zarathustra | thanks loggygreg |
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| 18:52.53 | Maulkin | !downgrade |
| 18:52.54 | dpkg | hmm... downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
| 18:53.43 | lnc | try removing mysql then; apt-get install mysql=version |
| 18:53.47 | Bleupomme | dpkg: so the best solution is to uninstall and use the mysql 4 tarball? |
| 18:53.49 | dpkg | Bleupomme: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 18:54.11 | dragontii | bleupomme do what lnc did |
| 18:54.11 | abrotman | dpkg: bark |
| 18:54.12 | thingfish | Bleupomme: dpkg is a bot. |
| 18:54.18 | yos87 | tarzeau: cat /proc/filesytems show : nodev : rootfs |
| 18:54.22 | yos87 | nodev bdev |
| 18:54.24 | tarzeau | yos87: only? |
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| 18:54.29 | abrotman | Bleupomme: how did you install mysql5? |
| 18:54.30 | tarzeau | yos87: no fat? |
| 18:54.34 | yos87 | tarzeau: no, many lines |
| 18:54.44 | tarzeau | yos87: is the letter "fat" somewhere? |
| 18:54.48 | Bleupomme | abrotman: I'm running on unstable |
| 18:54.53 | yos87 | there is vfat, ntfs |
| 18:54.55 | yos87 | not fat |
| 18:54.59 | tarzeau | yos87: ok that's good |
| 18:55.00 | Nwallins | hello. I am looking for a way to automate login and some scripted commands over the serial port. |
| 18:55.06 | abrotman | Bleupomme: do you want to downgrade your data too ? |
| 18:55.08 | tarzeau | yos87: now just mount it using -t ntfs or vfat |
| 18:55.21 | tarzeau | Nwallins: www.linuks.mine.nu/kiosk/ |
| 18:55.34 | Nwallins | tarz, checking it out, thanks |
| 18:55.45 | recover | I've just installed sarge on my old laptop, but I have no idea how I can get the sound working... I haven't installed X. I apt-getted mpd and mpc and got some ogg files but I don't get any sound. |
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| 18:55.55 | Bleupomme | abrotman: I could dump my databases, and reuse them as soon as I have mysql 4 |
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| 18:56.10 | yos87 | tarzeau: mount what, there is no device name behind ? it's only nodev and oppisite something |
| 18:56.14 | abrotman | Bleupomme: doesn't apt-get install mysql-server do that? |
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| 18:56.18 | abrotman | !info mysql-server sid |
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| 18:56.24 | dpkg | mysql-server: (mysql database server (current version)), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.19-3 (sid), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 64 kB |
| 18:56.25 | tarzeau | yos87: my example: mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda5 /mnt |
| 18:56.29 | abrotman | !ops nazi-oven router exploit |
| 18:56.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: nazi-oven router exploit |
| 18:56.29 | Bleupomme | Inc: how do you do that? Could you be more explicit? |
| 18:56.35 | abrotman | !info mysql4-server sid |
| 18:56.36 | myren | Bleupomme: that mostly works, but it requires some fidgeting to get some schemas working; serial &c are a littl eproblematic |
| 18:56.50 | Nwallins | tarzeau: I am looking at the source, README is not too helpful... is there more info? |
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| 18:57.02 | myren | abrotman: thats a cute !trigger |
| 18:57.02 | tarzeau | Nwallins: look at the source (debian/*inst) |
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| 18:57.29 | lnc | Bleupomme: uninstall mysql5 |
| 18:57.31 | yos87 | tarzeau: I did, it give me mount manual |
| 18:57.39 | abrotman | Bleupomme: doesn't look like mysql4 is available in sid |
| 18:57.39 | lnc | then install it manually with apt-get |
| 18:57.44 | tarzeau | yos87: of course use your partition not my /dev/hda5 |
| 18:57.53 | tarzeau | yos87: adn add -t vfat or ntfs |
| 18:57.54 | Nwallins | tarzeau: hmm.. the kiosk script calls startx, which is not at all what i'm trying to do. I am trying to, from my debian box, log in to my dell switch over the serial port |
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| 18:58.01 | tarzeau | Nwallins: start what you want instead |
| 18:58.01 | bpenn | moshii, are you there? |
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| 18:58.09 | tarzeau | Nwallins: that'd be with minicom |
| 18:58.10 | Bleupomme | Inc: so I uninstall mysql 5 and use the mysql 4 tarball? |
| 18:58.12 | yos87 | i try hda1 |
| 18:58.15 | tarzeau | Nwallins: oh wait remote login automated? |
| 18:58.18 | Nwallins | yeah |
| 18:58.23 | tarzeau | Nwallins: using what? ssh? rsh/rlogin? telnet? |
| 18:58.23 | myren | why is it that when i'm at home without an internet connection, i can think of 800 things i need to do online, but when i'm at the coffee shop i can never remember a one of them |
| 18:58.24 | lnc | i didn't say anything about tarball |
| 18:58.36 | Nwallins | tarzeau: well, the switch is running some console software |
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| 18:58.36 | abrotman | myren: boobs? |
| 18:58.36 | cusco | can someone help me to install a zd1211 chipset, wireless usp adapted |
| 18:58.37 | lnc | apt-get install mysql=version << use this |
| 18:58.37 | tarzeau | Nwallins: you know expect? |
| 18:58.40 | cusco | adapter |
| 18:58.40 | ifvoid | myren: you need to write them down ;) |
| 18:58.41 | Nwallins | tarzeau: no |
| 18:58.44 | cusco | usb |
| 18:58.45 | tarzeau | Nwallins: learn it :) |
| 18:58.49 | lnc | change 'version' to what version you want to install |
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| 18:59.10 | myren | hmm, i wish #1 was correct |
| 18:59.11 | tarzeau | myren: write it down somewhere |
| 18:59.12 | Nwallins | tarzeau: can you give me some more context. i don't "expect" that googling for 'expect' will turn up what you're talking about |
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| 18:59.19 | Bleupomme | Inc: and is there a possibility to have a list of available versions like apt-cache search? |
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| 18:59.25 | yos87 | tarzeau: I'm sorry, for westing your time,,, |
| 18:59.26 | tarzeau | Nwallins: apt-cache show expect |
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| 18:59.30 | Nwallins | ah, thanks |
| 18:59.33 | yos87 | tarzeau: I will not mount |
| 18:59.34 | myren | ah ha! |
| 18:59.34 | toxic_ | Is there a way to redirect text into "copy-paste buffer" (echo text 1> "copy_paste_buffer") so that option "paste" will paste the text ? (instead of marking text and copying manually) |
| 18:59.39 | recover | Anyone know of a sound guide for debian? |
| 18:59.41 | tarzeau | yos87: i'm sorry it doesn't work for you |
| 18:59.44 | tarzeau | !sound |
| 18:59.44 | dpkg | [sound] ask me about <alsa-bork>, <alsa for morons>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound> and <arts>. For sarge go to http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 18:59.48 | lnc | Bleupomme: try synaptic |
| 18:59.51 | Nwallins | tarzeau: cool, looks like what I want. thanks |
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| 18:59.55 | tarzeau | toxic_: know screen? |
| 19:00.03 | tarzeau | toxic_: some window managers have such tools... |
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| 19:00.09 | tarzeau | toxic_: i've seen them for gnustep |
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| 19:00.11 | yos87 | tarzeau: I have to applogize actually |
| 19:00.21 | tarzeau | Nwallins: you're welcome |
| 19:00.27 | abrotman | whoever wrote that <alsa for morons> factoid is a freaking idiot |
| 19:00.28 | Hd | hey Im having issued |
| 19:00.38 | abrotman | yay guerin! |
| 19:00.52 | toxic_ | tarzeau, ehm you don't happen to recall any names do you ? |
| 19:00.55 | bIackace | DCC SEND 5555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:00.58 | bIackace | DCC SEND 5555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:01.00 | ifvoid | jees |
| 19:01.01 | bIackace | DCC SEND 5555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:01.04 | bIackace | DCC SEND 5555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:01.04 | tarzeau | toxic_: nope. i doubt you'll like gnustep |
| 19:01.05 | ifvoid | !ops bIackace |
| 19:01.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: bIackace |
| 19:01.06 | abrotman | !ops bIackace |
| 19:01.09 | tarzeau | !ops Bleupomme |
| 19:01.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Bleupomme |
| 19:01.16 | toxic_ | tarzeau, hehe aight :) |
| 19:01.20 | abrotman | tarzeau: retract that! |
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| 19:01.31 | Maulkin | I think they heared you :) |
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| 19:01.34 | abrotman | !afo |
| 19:01.34 | dpkg | asg for ops! |
| 19:01.35 | jonas22 | is there a way to see the 'recommended' packages again |
| 19:01.36 | ifvoid | can't we get dpkg to auto-Kickban on DCC SEND commands? |
| 19:01.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: how? |
| 19:01.45 | ifvoid | jonas22: apt-cache shwp pkgname |
| 19:01.46 | abrotman | ifvoid: you mean debhelper .. ask dondelelcaro |
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| 19:01.49 | tarzeau | ifvoid: what if you want to /version dpkg? |
| 19:01.51 | ifvoid | jonas22: show |
| 19:01.54 | tarzeau | ah wait that's ctcp |
| 19:01.58 | myren | anyone know how i can invert the capitaliszation on the +/= key? |
| 19:01.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: notice you used the wrong person ? |
| 19:02.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes i noticed |
| 19:02.05 | Maulkin | ifvoid: No |
| 19:02.09 | tarzeau | abrotman: did something happen because of that? |
| 19:02.10 | myren | i'd like + to be non cap, and = to be cap, inverse normal |
| 19:02.17 | jonas22 | hmm, i'm using show, but it only has depends and conflics :( |
| 19:02.19 | abrotman | tarzeau: of course not .. we'd need ops for that! |
| 19:02.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: i hope !ops does no automatic stuff |
| 19:02.25 | ifvoid | myren: xmodmap can do that |
| 19:02.28 | jonas22 | i guess they were recommended from other packages |
| 19:02.32 | Maulkin | ifvoid: It doesn't have that capability, it's a blootbot, which is an info bot |
| 19:02.34 | tarzeau | myren: x or console? |
| 19:02.37 | yos87 | I have another problem, When I type apt-get install xchat, he ask to insert desk 1, and desk 1 inside, even When I click on the cdrom im my computer it show me , unable to mount! |
| 19:02.38 | myren | X |
| 19:02.43 | ifvoid | Maulkin: too bad :( |
| 19:02.45 | RichiH | ifvoid, abrotman, tarzeau i klined the ip so he will not come back |
| 19:02.50 | ifvoid | thanks |
| 19:02.54 | yos87 | it was working |
| 19:02.58 | abrotman | RichiH: both of them? |
| 19:03.03 | abrotman | !beer RichiH |
| 19:03.08 | RichiH | both? |
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| 19:03.12 | tarzeau | RichiH: hopefully not the blue apple |
| 19:03.13 | RichiH | ah |
| 19:03.20 | abrotman | RichiH: /lastlog nazi-oven or whatever it was |
| 19:03.39 | RichiH | spaten pils |
| 19:03.42 | RichiH | urgs! |
| 19:03.47 | abrotman | though .. it was apparently the same person from different IPs |
| 19:03.54 | abrotman | !beer RichiH |
| 19:03.56 | abrotman | better? |
| 19:04.01 | RichiH | pour that one back into the horse |
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| 19:04.14 | RichiH | abrotman: i don't know it, so yah |
| 19:04.18 | *** part/#debian kix (n=avati@202.142.88.41.zeeaccess.com) |
| 19:04.27 | abrotman | RichiH: it's made close to here .. ti's a pretty good beer |
| 19:04.28 | trubuntu | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:04.29 | trubuntu | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
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| 19:04.39 | abrotman | !afo |
| 19:04.40 | dpkg | anyone for ops! |
| 19:04.41 | tarzeau | GNAAA |
| 19:04.45 | *** join/#debian norckon (i=norckon@norckon.student.utwente.nl) |
| 19:04.46 | citral | beurk |
| 19:04.47 | myren | we need to change the !beer trigger, i'm tired of jonesing for beer i cannot afford |
| 19:04.50 | myren | what good good beer |
| 19:04.53 | ifvoid | RichiH: still around? |
| 19:05.00 | RichiH | ifvoid: me, yes |
| 19:05.02 | myren | make it shiltz or something |
| 19:05.02 | RichiH | the guy, no |
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| 19:05.13 | abrotman | it doesn't matter .. it's GNAA tards .. this is going to go on all day |
| 19:05.20 | Nwallins | is there a way to get common programs (e.g. less) to auto-gunzip .gz files transparently, perhaps to /tmp, but leave the .gz on the filesystem in the normal place? |
| 19:05.23 | ifvoid | RichiH: ah, you noticed already ;) |
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| 19:05.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: today is only 3 more hours |
| 19:05.44 | norckon | someone wanting to help me with a debian problem? |
| 19:05.47 | tarzeau | Nwallins: there's zless? |
| 19:05.57 | tarzeau | norckon: nobody wants to read your mind |
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| 19:05.58 | resiak | !lesspipe |
| 19:05.58 | dpkg | i guess lesspipe is input preprocessor for less and it allows you to view compressed files (.gz, .bz2) and even Debian packages, man lesspipe for more info, or add "eval `lesspipe`" to your shell .rc file for lots of less-related magic. Try less file.gz, file.tar.gz and more :) |
| 19:06.20 | Nwallins | tarzeau: oh, cool. i could see how auto-transparency might be a pain if you're actually trying to inspect the compressed file |
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| 19:06.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: man i was looking for you |
| 19:06.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: i need to tell you something important |
| 19:06.54 | dragontii | a known channel like debian need at least one ops.. |
| 19:06.56 | tarzeau | abrotman: my machine is almost finished |
| 19:07.00 | abrotman | tarzeau: nice |
| 19:07.06 | Nwallins | resiak: sweet |
| 19:07.10 | Maulkin | ifvoid: I can probably put that functionality into blootbot IYL |
| 19:07.26 | resiak | dragontii: #debian has ops. |
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| 19:07.34 | citral | dragontii: point. |
| 19:07.36 | tarzeau | abrotman: it looks a bit like an oversized sewing-machine! |
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| 19:07.41 | luftwaffe | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:07.42 | luftwaffe | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:07.42 | tarzeau | resiak: hahaha |
| 19:07.44 | luftwaffe | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:07.52 | resiak | tarzeau: :) |
| 19:07.54 | abrotman | come on .. i can pick these people out |
| 19:07.56 | luftwaffe | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:08.00 | Fubarovic | hm |
| 19:08.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 827] by debhelper |
| 19:08.01 | UncleSkunk | !scroll |
| 19:08.01 | dpkg | Ok we now that you know how to press enter. Now type at least one sentence before pressing next time. |
| 19:08.02 | Fubarovic | wtf |
| 19:08.05 | jair | what is the name of... |
| 19:08.06 | tarzeau | resiak: and i'll /nick bodenrakete |
| 19:08.09 | UncleSkunk | oh its still that |
| 19:08.14 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
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| 19:08.18 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 19:08.18 | citral | well I'm not gay, and moreover I'm white, should I bother? |
| 19:08.20 | mentor | meh |
| 19:08.22 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@203.28.90.18] by dondelelcaro |
| 19:08.25 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 19:08.26 | Shadowcat | too slow |
| 19:08.26 | tarzeau | citral: you too can join them |
| 19:08.28 | abrotman | they're random IPs .. |
| 19:08.32 | dragontii | nice |
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| 19:08.34 | ifvoid | mentor: he keeps reconnectig from different ips |
| 19:08.35 | RichiH | dondek: it is klined |
| 19:08.35 | abrotman | he'll be back with another |
| 19:08.41 | dragontii | protection has arrived |
| 19:08.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: and another and another |
| 19:08.44 | dragontii | lol |
| 19:08.46 | RichiH | abrotman: at least he only has a dozen nodes ;) |
| 19:08.55 | abrotman | RichiH: how can you be sure? |
| 19:08.56 | citral | just ban on DCC |
| 19:09.02 | tarzeau | citral: it's too hard |
| 19:09.15 | jair | guys do you know if I can still add users to the "tdbsam" password database using the smbpasswd -a user? my concern is that i use it even when i am using tdbsam as password backend. |
| 19:09.25 | RichiH | abrotman: because else there would be a larger attack |
| 19:09.34 | abrotman | RichiH: maybe he's just canadian? :) |
| 19:09.44 | Ronin | hey now just cause your jelious of us abrotman |
| 19:09.57 | Shadowcat | you know what I found even sadder about the attack |
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| 19:10.05 | Shadowcat | it's that it still knocked clients offline in here |
| 19:10.05 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ready? |
| 19:10.09 | RichiH | i need to run now, but i poked the rest of staff |
| 19:10.09 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ? |
| 19:10.10 | bougceliet | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:10.10 | bougceliet | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:10.11 | Ronin | abrotman: of course me spell goodly |
| 19:10.13 | bougceliet | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:10.20 | RichiH | hah |
| 19:10.21 | mentor | heh |
| 19:10.21 | Shadowcat | see what I mean |
| 19:10.21 | Fubarovic | wow |
| 19:10.22 | Nwallins | canadians are jelicious, with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 19:10.25 | toxic_ | Is there a program/daemon out there that can listen to a log file and print it's output if it matches a certain string ? |
| 19:10.25 | Shadowcat | it still knocks people offline |
| 19:10.31 | Shadowcat | some people should really patch their routers |
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| 19:10.33 | Fubarovic | seems like a nice new virus is going around |
| 19:10.36 | Shadowcat | it's about bloody time |
| 19:10.39 | tarzeau | Nwallins: canibal! |
| 19:10.39 | Maulkin | Ok... |
| 19:10.41 | mentor | I thought it was a mIRC bug? |
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| 19:10.46 | tarzeau | toxic_: yes |
| 19:10.47 | RichiH | dondelelcaro: he will have referred to the ident |
| 19:10.49 | abrotman | Fubarovic: no .. stupidity has been with humans for a very long time |
| 19:10.50 | Shadowcat | mentor: it's a netgear router bug |
| 19:10.50 | RichiH | 21:09:12 -!- bougceliet [n=garynige@82.90.126.221] has joined #debian |
| 19:10.55 | Ronin | see tarzeau cant spell either :) |
| 19:10.55 | toxic_ | tarzeau, do you happen to know one's name ? |
| 19:10.57 | Shadowcat | something netgear should have fixed AGES ago |
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| 19:10.59 | RichiH | UdontKnow: ready to take over? |
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| 19:11.00 | tarzeau | Ronin: where? |
| 19:11.03 | Maulkin | well, s/shell/perl |
| 19:11.04 | UdontKnow | RichiH: kinda |
| 19:11.06 | Shadowcat | well... netgear and linksys |
| 19:11.08 | tarzeau | toxic_: no |
| 19:11.08 | dragontii | i dont understand they write text only how people can get out |
| 19:11.08 | mentor | Shad0wcat: meh |
| 19:11.09 | Fubarovic | when i try to insmod a kernel durin gthe install, i get a "cannot read ELF header eroor" |
| 19:11.09 | UdontKnow | RichiH: post me details |
| 19:11.14 | Fubarovic | does someone know what that means? |
| 19:11.18 | toxic_ | tarzeau, ok thx anyway |
| 19:11.20 | Shadowcat | mentor: it affects two netgear models and one linksys model |
| 19:11.21 | mentor | Shad0wcat: People are never going to fix that then. |
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| 19:11.30 | Shadowcat | mentor: well they should |
| 19:11.33 | Nwallins | s/l// |
| 19:11.36 | dragontii | shadowcat what are you taling about |
| 19:11.43 | tarzeau | Ronin: cannibal is not important. i can spell cunnilingus |
| 19:11.46 | Ronin | tarzeau: cannibal ;) |
| 19:11.47 | Shadowcat | that DCC S?ND stuff |
| 19:11.50 | abrotman | Nwallins: the what? |
| 19:11.54 | Nwallins | cunning linguist |
| 19:11.57 | dragontii | shadowcat its only text |
| 19:11.57 | mentor | Shad0wcat: Yeah, I know they should. |
| 19:11.59 | dragontii | no? |
| 19:12.01 | citral | no, the netgear bug is DCC SEND somelongstring 0 0 0 |
| 19:12.07 | mentor | er... |
| 19:12.07 | abrotman | citral!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:12.11 | Shadowcat | told you |
| 19:12.15 | UdontKnow | citral: please dont do it again |
| 19:12.15 | tarzeau | citral: make it a bit longer |
| 19:12.18 | Shadowcat | those three need to get a big kick in the ass |
| 19:12.18 | abrotman | how ever .. it's about to happen again |
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| 19:12.30 | citral | hey I didn't do it ok. |
| 19:12.35 | abrotman | citral: yes you did |
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| 19:12.42 | Shadowcat | citral: yes you did |
| 19:12.42 | UdontKnow | citral: exploiting their hardware will give you a kline |
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| 19:12.48 | abrotman | citral: it may have been an accident .. but you just kicked three people |
| 19:12.49 | UdontKnow | citral: yes, you did it |
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| 19:12.54 | mentor | ahem |
| 19:12.57 | Shadowcat | it's DCC S?ND followed by a few characters |
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| 19:13.00 | Shadowcat | if it's more than 15 |
| 19:13.01 | mentor | I think it was clear that it was an accident |
| 19:13.02 | citral | hem. shit. sorry. |
| 19:13.10 | Shadowcat | you get knocked offline |
| 19:13.11 | yos87 | I Have mount problem! |
| 19:13.12 | mentor | But don't do that(tm) |
| 19:13.16 | mentor | yonkeltron: What kind?! |
| 19:13.35 | mentor | yos87: even |
| 19:13.46 | citral | et merde, I didn't want that. |
| 19:14.07 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:14.10 | mentor | What's the bug actually in? |
| 19:14.12 | yos87 | mentor: Hi |
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| 19:14.18 | ifvoid | mentor: in some router thing |
| 19:14.29 | ifvoid | el cheepo stuff |
| 19:14.34 | jair | anyone familiar with samba? I would like to know if I can use the command "smbpasswd -a username" to add the new users to the samba password backend of tdbsam instead the smbpasswd file... |
| 19:14.40 | dragontii | i dont undernet, he only flood with text, i dont receive any dcc request |
| 19:14.41 | mentor | Is it Linux based? or VxWorks? I suppose I should STFW. |
| 19:14.45 | yos87 | mentor: when I try to open the cdrom, : unable to mount! |
| 19:14.50 | dragontii | understand* |
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| 19:14.56 | Shadowcat | mentor: that DCC bug affects VxWorks routers |
| 19:14.59 | tarzeau | what happens if you set the topic to that DCC S?ND THINGY? |
| 19:15.01 | yos87 | the same whith apt-get |
| 19:15.07 | Shadowcat | specifically 614, 624, and WRG64G |
| 19:15.08 | abrotman | tarzeau: probably not good |
| 19:15.13 | Shadowcat | or whatever that linksys model was called |
| 19:15.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: heh :) |
| 19:15.17 | ifvoid | tarzeau: it happens whenever that string is passed through the router over port 6667 |
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| 19:15.22 | citral | well they should all go for openwrt anyway |
| 19:15.23 | mentor | yos87: What is the actual error message? |
| 19:15.25 | sdf | lo room |
| 19:15.27 | Shadowcat | ifvoid: exactly |
| 19:15.30 | ifvoid | tarzeau: it's some specific "workaround" for some other problem, iirc |
| 19:15.43 | sdf | ok, here for something really new and insane, but it should be possible |
| 19:15.46 | tarzeau | aha |
| 19:15.50 | sdf | how can i boot into sid without ram |
| 19:15.51 | sdf | :P |
| 19:15.52 | Shadowcat | which makes it very insidious |
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| 19:16.03 | Shadowcat | you can't boot anything without ram |
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| 19:16.10 | sdf | sure you can |
| 19:16.13 | abrotman | no you can't |
| 19:16.16 | yos87 | mentor: Unable to mount the selected volume. the volume is probably in format that cannot be mounted |
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| 19:16.17 | ifvoid | no you can't |
| 19:16.20 | sdf | hmmm |
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| 19:16.23 | abrotman | if you have no system RAM .. your system won't boot |
| 19:16.24 | Shadowcat | not unless your motherboard happens to be from 1980 |
| 19:16.31 | sdf | cant i use compact flash for ram or something |
| 19:16.42 | mentor | yos87: What kind of CD/DVD do you have in the drive? |
| 19:16.42 | ifvoid | sdf: nope |
| 19:16.42 | Shadowcat | sdf: NO |
| 19:16.53 | recover | On my laptop, the console resolution is "emulated" at 640x480 (it kinda only use the center of the screen), though I know it can make 1024x768 (so it can stretch out to the borders of the screen) |
| 19:16.55 | yos87 | mentor: I don't actually, but dvd writer, |
| 19:16.56 | ifvoid | sdf: I don;t think your BIOS can even load without ram |
| 19:17.04 | recover | Anyone know how I can make it go 1024x768? |
| 19:17.04 | dragontii | well i have a netgear and im still here |
| 19:17.05 | yos87 | mentor: it was working anyway |
| 19:17.10 | ifvoid | recover: some key combo |
| 19:17.14 | sdf | hmm |
| 19:17.19 | sdf | this chanel lacks the hacker spirit |
| 19:17.21 | yos87 | mentor: and the cd inside is bootable, and working fine |
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| 19:17.28 | ifvoid | recover: it's your laptop's bios that handles that |
| 19:17.40 | recover | ok, I've been there but I haven't found anything |
| 19:17.41 | Shadowcat | sdf: this isn't about hacking |
| 19:17.47 | Shadowcat | MORON |
| 19:17.48 | yos87 | mentor: when I type apt-get install xchat, it will ask me for cd1 ,and cd1 inside actually |
| 19:17.52 | ifvoid | dragontii: it only affects certains version, I think |
| 19:18.08 | dragontii | ifvoid what is the name of this attack |
| 19:18.08 | Shadowcat | ifvoid: I already specified which versions 5 min ago |
| 19:18.09 | yos87 | mentor: It was working! |
| 19:18.09 | Shadowcat | scroll up |
| 19:18.11 | vin` | recover: try vga=791 or similar in your bootloader |
| 19:18.16 | mentor | yos87: Something changed! |
| 19:18.20 | ifvoid | dragontii: no idea |
| 19:18.22 | recover | vin`: Good idea, I'll try it |
| 19:18.25 | Bleupomme | Inc: synaptic doesnt work, (gtk cant open display). Furthermore I tried apt-get mysql-4.x.x seems to find no valid version. |
| 19:18.26 | ifvoid | dragontii: just google |
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| 19:18.56 | Nwallins | Bleupomme: apt-get *install* pkgname |
| 19:19.22 | yos87 | mentor: there is also show more details: mount: worng fs type, bad option , bad superblock on /dev/hdc, missing codepage or other error in same cases useful infor is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so |
| 19:19.32 | Bleupomme | Inc: yes I misstyped I used apt-get install mysql=version |
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| 19:19.54 | mentor | yos87: Right. Can you mount any other CDs? HAve you changed kernels? IS the CD scratched? |
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| 19:20.19 | rwldr | DCC SEND http://gnaa.us/_55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:20.24 | dragontii | so strange |
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| 19:20.35 | simonrvn | @ops rwldr (n=robwlder@82.91.44.93 DCC exploit |
| 19:20.36 | *** mode/#debian [+b rwldr!*@*] by mentor |
| 19:20.36 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, azeem, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: rwldr (n=robwlder@82.91.44.93 DCC exploit |
| 19:20.41 | simonrvn | w00t |
| 19:20.42 | dragontii | is this the 5 string that bug the router |
| 19:20.47 | simonrvn | thanks mentor |
| 19:20.49 | Bleupomme | Inc: Version '4.1.16' for 'mysql' was not found - for instance |
| 19:21.03 | abrotman | mentor: probably better by IP |
| 19:21.07 | resiak | dragontii: D.C S..D followed by a very long string breaks various router |
| 19:21.09 | yos87 | mentor: I put another cd, it's not giving chance for the cdrom to read , it directly show the error |
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| 19:21.17 | mentor | GAH BLOODY FUCKING WINDOWS |
| 19:21.17 | simonrvn | Bleupomme: what happens when you just do 'mysql'? |
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| 19:21.25 | recover | vin`: worked perfect! Thanks :D |
| 19:21.25 | Shadowcat | mentor's in Windows? |
| 19:21.28 | simonrvn | @comfort mentor |
| 19:21.29 | ravenbird | There, there, mentor. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 19:21.38 | yos87 | mentor: seems it's not contacting the cdrom |
| 19:21.39 | LoRez | klined |
| 19:21.42 | mentor | yeah, he left before my client grabbed his IP |
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| 19:21.46 | dragontii | resiak ok |
| 19:21.47 | mentor | yeah |
| 19:21.48 | mentor | well quite :) |
| 19:22.02 | Maulkin | right, that's it. |
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| 19:22.25 | mentor | Shad0wcat: Yeah, my laptop isn't charging |
| 19:22.31 | mentor | Shad0wcat: Getting a spare part is painful |
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| 19:22.49 | mentor | yos87: Are you getting any errors from the kernel talking with the CD drive? |
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| 19:23.39 | swim | hi folks, could anyone either tell me how to get a debian bootsplash (with animation) working, or where I can read how to do so? |
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| 19:24.02 | Shadowcat | google for debian bootpslash |
| 19:24.09 | stonr | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:24.09 | stonr | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
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| 19:24.19 | mentor | feck |
| 19:24.20 | mentor | too slow |
| 19:24.26 | yos87 | mentor: no error popup, but I type dmesg | tail : shdc : status error status error status error |
| 19:24.39 | citral | mentor /whowas doesn't work???? rwldr [n=robwlder@82.91.44.93] |
| 19:24.40 | mentor | yos87: Yeah, your CD drive is having issues. |
| 19:24.49 | mentor | citral: Oh yeah. |
| 19:24.53 | yos87 | mentor: what issues! |
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| 19:24.59 | mentor | citral: I'm just hitting the kickban menu though |
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| 19:25.10 | mentor | yos87: What kind of computer do you have? |
| 19:25.36 | yos87 | Mentor: fujitsu siemens, amilopro laptop |
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| 19:25.54 | mentor | yos87: IS your optical drive loose? |
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| 19:26.28 | mentor | citral: I keep meaning to wirte a better script, but first I need to fix XChat |
| 19:26.44 | swim | anyone? |
| 19:26.49 | mentor | IT's fairly easy to autoban on the sort of string, erm...we just haven't done it yet |
| 19:26.54 | yos87 | mentor: I don't think so, because I fell the cd moving when I insert, and the cd drive is working in windows in the same pc |
| 19:27.01 | Shadowcat | swim: I already told you, scroll up |
| 19:27.21 | mentor | yos87: This is persists over reboots? |
| 19:27.26 | swim | Shad0wcat, I have of course been doing that... wouldnt have asked if I could have found it |
| 19:27.28 | mentor | !findkeys splash |
| 19:27.34 | yos87 | mentor: I reboot 100 time |
| 19:27.38 | mentor | swim: What kind of splash do you want? |
| 19:27.38 | Shadowcat | swim: you must not be doing a very good job then |
| 19:27.42 | Shadowcat | that's how I found it |
| 19:27.44 | Shadowcat | either way |
| 19:27.57 | swim | mentor, something like this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6837 |
| 19:28.04 | Shadowcat | !tell swim about bootsplash |
| 19:28.07 | darkness_ | I thought shadowcat had left? |
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| 19:28.27 | yos87 | mentor: if the pc will promise me that he will not do this again, I will format! |
| 19:28.50 | Shadowcat | darkfires: I lurk |
| 19:28.57 | triplestout | DCC SEND areyougay_areyouanigger_areyouaGAYnigger?_jointhegnaa-today;----http://gnaa.us/55555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 19:29.20 | mentor | yos87: Hmm. Try using hdparm and/or smartmontools on the drive. It may be a DMA issue of some sort. |
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| 19:29.50 | swim | Shad0wcat, so is that also for a boot splash with animation? not just the grub menu splash? |
| 19:30.30 | yos87 | mentor: I don't know hdprm and smartmontools! |
| 19:30.37 | darkness_ | This gnaa crap is starting again all over irc chans atm. |
| 19:30.43 | mentor | yos87: Install them from the network |
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| 19:30.49 | Bleupomme | Inc: mysql has no installation candidates. Tried with mysql-common=version didnt work either. Is a source missing? |
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| 19:31.26 | Maulkin | Let's test this... 555555555555555555 hmm |
| 19:31.39 | Shadowcat | STOP testing the dcc stuff |
| 19:31.40 | yos87 | mentor: I will install first hdparm |
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| 19:31.55 | mentor | Maulkin: Don't do that mmm'kay |
| 19:31.58 | Shadowcat | ManyFiveKiller is the source |
| 19:32.04 | Maulkin | No.. |
| 19:32.06 | Shadowcat | mentor: look at ManyFiveKiller's ident |
| 19:32.07 | UdontKnow | Maulkin: attempting to exploit clients is not condoned on freenode |
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| 19:32.11 | UdontKnow | Maulkin: please dont |
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| 19:32.25 | mentor | yeah, I saw. |
| 19:32.29 | Bleupomme | could anyone give me an adress to put in the source file. So I can downgrade my mysql vesion? |
| 19:32.34 | Maulkin | ManyFiveKiller is a small bot which will match ([5]{10}) and set mode +b |
| 19:32.51 | Maulkin | Use it if you want |
| 19:33.24 | mentor | yes...let me just op it for you. |
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| 19:34.11 | mentor | bah |
| 19:34.12 | yos87 | mentor: how to tell debian to look directly to the network, because he is asking for the cd again , and I already made apt-setup |
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| 19:34.25 | mentor | yos87: $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:34.54 | heny | how can i shutdown a linux pc? |
| 19:34.55 | escalade | hi |
| 19:34.55 | yos87 | cut - past in the front? |
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| 19:34.56 | heny | shutdown? |
| 19:35.00 | mentor | heny: man shutdown |
| 19:35.10 | escalade | heny: shutdown -h now |
| 19:35.14 | mentor | heny: you can use 'now' for now |
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| 19:35.54 | przem | Where shoud I place my scripts if i'd like to turn them on automaticaly on startup? |
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| 19:36.08 | mentor | /etc/init.d/README |
| 19:36.09 | dondelelcaro | przem: @reboot in crontab, or an init.d script. |
| 19:36.16 | escalade | default my debian server has a dhcp ip i set i to static but now only get a localloopback and no ip is assigned :( |
| 19:36.19 | Maulkin | mentor: *shrug* Well, if you want to see the source/run it yourself, grab it from http://www.halon.org.uk/tmp/555killer.pl |
| 19:36.24 | Maulkin | Just trying to help |
| 19:36.34 | heny | which parameters do i need? |
| 19:36.40 | heny | shutdown -P/a/ etc doesnt work |
| 19:36.48 | mentor | Maulkin: Yes, I appreciate the help... Er, I just can't randomly op things though :) |
| 19:37.19 | jonas22 | if anyone who was helping me with the jvm problems before is still around |
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| 19:37.33 | yos87 | mentor: I have to delete all scaned 14 cds?? |
| 19:37.34 | jonas22 | do you guys know how to get the eclipse debian package to work with the sun jdk or should i just download it from the site |
| 19:37.34 | Maulkin | mentor: Yeah, understand, hence providing the source for you to run it yourself if needed :) |
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| 19:37.54 | mentor | meh |
| 19:37.57 | mentor | REal life calls. |
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| 19:38.27 | escalade | iface eth0 inet static |
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| 19:38.36 | escalade | is this right? |
| 19:38.50 | boguh | hi, i set my linux to utf8, how can i test if its works in xterm? |
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| 19:40.10 | przem | Ok thanks I'll work with that |
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| 19:40.45 | cheal | escalade: what do mean? |
| 19:41.02 | Bleupomme | how can I downgrade from mysql 5 to mysql 4.1.18? |
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| 19:41.51 | tarzeau | !eat Bleupomme |
| 19:41.56 | abrotman | Bleupomme: mysql4 is not in sid |
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| 19:42.08 | tobiask | boguh: why shouldn't it work? what does "locale" tell you? |
| 19:42.31 | monra | Hello, lately I was alos here and wanted no to here this annoying pc BEEP when I was in Vi and so |
| 19:42.34 | Bleupomme | abrotman: I have the stable and testing urls in my source file |
| 19:42.38 | boguh | tobiask en_US.UTF-8 |
| 19:42.48 | abrotman | Bleupomme: so try a -t |
| 19:43.03 | escalade | cheal how my /etc/network/interfaces should look like |
| 19:43.10 | escalade | do i need to remove atho eth0 |
| 19:43.10 | monra | So someone told me login as root and write rmmod pcspkr |
| 19:43.24 | escalade | auto eth0 * |
| 19:43.32 | blondie | hmmm |
| 19:43.44 | cheal | escalade: it depends on what you want to do |
| 19:43.47 | Bleupomme | abrotman: Where should I put the -t? |
| 19:43.53 | monra | the problem is I get in vi now in a file and want to get down, so I click the down button but it doesn't goes, after sometime my Gnome Desktop gets full of HElp windows |
| 19:43.55 | monra | any ideas? |
| 19:43.57 | blondie | HELP i forgot my root password how can i crack it x.x |
| 19:44.08 | tobiask | boguh: you typed that in an xterm? does that answer your question? |
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| 19:44.19 | escalade | cheal: want to set a static ip. adress, netmask and gateway (those lines i added to the file) should i remove the auto eth0? |
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| 19:44.20 | Bleupomme | !eat |
| 19:44.25 | monra | any ideas? |
| 19:44.28 | Bleupomme | :) |
| 19:44.57 | escalade | tried yesterday (also with line broadcast) and lost the interface... |
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| 19:45.08 | abrotman | Bleupomme: man apt-get |
| 19:45.14 | yos87 | mentor: What should I do now? |
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| 19:46.47 | monra | Please help me |
| 19:46.53 | monra | I cannot work with VI |
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| 19:47.00 | abrotman | !vi tutorial |
| 19:47.00 | dpkg | methinks vi tutorial is at: <http://www.dina.dk/~abraham/religion/vi-tutorial.html, or http://bignosebird.com/docs/vi.shtml, or http://www.eng.hawaii.edu/Tutor/vi.html |
| 19:47.16 | Bleupomme | abrotman: mysql-common is already the newest version with -t testing and -t stable |
| 19:47.18 | boguh | tobiask no, i would like to see some korean stuff or so in my console |
| 19:47.18 | abrotman | !vi tutorial s/l,/l/g |
| 19:47.22 | abrotman | !vi tutorial =~ s/l,/l/g |
| 19:47.22 | dpkg | abrotman: OK |
| 19:47.29 | monra | I know working Vi, Vi doesn't work for me! |
| 19:47.35 | monra | the problem is I get in vi now in a file and want to get down, so I click the down button but it doesn't goes, after sometime my Gnome Desktop gets full of HElp windows |
| 19:47.56 | monra | Hello, lately I was alos here and wanted no to here this annoying pc BEEP when I was in Vi and So someone told me login as root and write rmmod pcspkr |
| 19:48.02 | abrotman | Bleupomme: because mysql-common for mysql5 is installed |
| 19:48.05 | evaded | monra: Try with nano' |
| 19:48.16 | Maulkin | blondie: you running lilo or grub? |
| 19:48.21 | monra | nano, what is nano! I want to use vi, I'm used in Vi |
| 19:48.24 | blondie | er dunno c.c |
| 19:48.40 | blondie | this is on an xbox |
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| 19:48.47 | Bleupomme | abrotman: ok will try to unisntall it first |
| 19:48.50 | monra | evaded, Just tried with nano, same problem |
| 19:48.55 | monra | Please help me! |
| 19:49.03 | cureless | monra: what's your problem? |
| 19:49.05 | lewis | If I use debian sarge and proftpd, where in the logrotate configuration files are the xferreport logs mentioned? |
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| 19:49.35 | monra | I was alos here and wanted no to here this annoying pc BEEP when I was in Vi and So someone told me login as root and write rmmod pcspkrthe problem is I get in vi now in a file and want to get down, so I click the down button but it doesn't goes, after sometime my Gnome Desktop gets full of HElp windows |
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| 19:49.43 | monra | cureless, that;s my problem |
| 19:49.44 | tobiask | boguh: install "scim". it's an input system. what desktop environment are you using? |
| 19:49.46 | cureless | lewis: /etc/logrotate.d/proftpd? |
| 19:49.59 | cheal | escalade: do you want it to be up automatically? |
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| 19:50.02 | boguh | tobiask e17 and fluxbox |
| 19:50.10 | ifvoid | monra: xset b 0 0 0 |
| 19:50.19 | Maulkin | monra: Erm... vi doesn't have a down button... |
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| 19:50.26 | ifvoid | monra: or disconnect the pc pseaker physically |
| 19:50.31 | monra | Maulkin, but keyborad does |
| 19:50.35 | cureless | monra: are you in console? or on an xterm? |
| 19:50.50 | tobiask | boguh: ok, i don't know how to get it working in that environment. i use it with gnome and it's great. let's me type in any conceivable language. i use it for chinese. |
| 19:50.53 | Bleupomme | abrtoman: just another question: why does it want to uninstall amarok, when I uninstall mysql 5? |
| 19:50.59 | monra | Gnome, Konsole I don't get help winodws it's just don't go downm |
| 19:51.31 | boguh | tobiask ill give scim a try |
| 19:51.34 | Maulkin | monra: monra Try using j to go down |
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| 19:51.48 | monra | Maulkin, it goes with j |
| 19:51.58 | evaded | monra: And if you press the 'i, j, k,l' keys?? |
| 19:52.01 | cureless | monra: you can either dissable the visual bell for the xterm or in vi do "set vb" |
| 19:52.01 | monra | ifvoid, doesn't work the xset b 0 0 0 |
| 19:52.02 | abrotman | Bleupomme: C++ ABI change i'd guess |
| 19:52.03 | Maulkin | monra: There you go then. Works :) |
| 19:52.13 | blondie | abrotman: fix my xbox please! |
| 19:52.13 | cureless | monra: I mean, set the visual bell for the xterm. |
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| 19:52.16 | lewis | cureless: I don't have a /etc/logrotate.d/proftpd :( |
| 19:52.20 | abrotman | blondie: buy a PS2? |
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| 19:52.22 | tobiask | boguh: you may have to install some plugin, i.e. scim-m17n or maybe there is something specific for korean. |
| 19:52.22 | Bleupomme | abrotman: :( |
| 19:52.24 | blondie | no! |
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| 19:52.25 | monra | cureless, How do I do this! |
| 19:52.26 | blondie | :( |
| 19:52.30 | abrotman | blondie: define "fix" |
| 19:52.36 | ifvoid | !doesn't work |
| 19:52.37 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:52.37 | monra | Maulkin, yeah but how can I use the up down left right buttons |
| 19:52.40 | cureless | lewis: I was guessing, don't know if that's the file. maybe it just uses the generic ones |
| 19:52.41 | Maulkin | monra: Prehaps you want to install "vim" |
| 19:52.42 | blondie | tell me my root password :) |
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| 19:52.51 | gary_ | Any web browser recommendations. I've used firefox for over a year, bit fed up of it and lately it has become very unreliable. I started using Galeon and liked it, but was wondering if you had any other recommendations? |
| 19:52.55 | Maulkin | blondie: It's "password" or "root" |
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| 19:52.57 | monra | Maulkin, I have gvim but have the same problem I tried |
| 19:52.58 | tobiask | boguh: after installation also run "set-m17n-env". |
| 19:53.01 | cureless | monra: in vi, type "<esc>:set vb" |
| 19:53.03 | ifvoid | gary_: epiphany |
| 19:53.07 | blondie | gary_: firefox. it's not unreliable! |
| 19:53.13 | ifvoid | gary_: and some people seem to like opera |
| 19:53.16 | abrotman | !tell blondie about ifrp |
| 19:53.56 | blondie | hmm i'll try that :) |
| 19:54.01 | Maulkin | ahh, I was looking for that factoid |
| 19:54.07 | blondie | i can use the xbox without the password though, so some other time |
| 19:54.11 | monra | cureless, I writed set vb but nothing! |
| 19:54.11 | gary_ | ifvoid: I was thinking of epiphany actually. Opera seems a bit heavy weight and fiddly. |
| 19:54.11 | lewis | hmm - anyone else know where debian specifies xferreport log rotation, can't seem to find it |
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| 19:54.18 | boguh | tobiask korean was only an example |
| 19:54.23 | tobiask | boguh: xterm does not show some glyphs, i don't know why. use a terminal of which u know it can show the glyphs. gnome-terminal does. |
| 19:54.33 | monra | Maulkin, as I see all buttons work(up...) expect down from the keyboard, I don't know why |
| 19:54.39 | lewis | t |
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| 19:54.54 | gary_ | blondie: well mine has started crashing both on my ubuntu machine in work, and this computer (debian). Plus it never remembers logins or anything, even though I deleted cache, cookies, and all saved passwords |
| 19:54.58 | ifvoid | lewis: in /etc/cron.*/ somwehere perhaps? |
| 19:55.04 | cureless | monra: nothing what? |
| 19:55.15 | monra | cureless, nothing was done! |
| 19:55.20 | cureless | monra: let me see you want to dissable the "beep" right? |
| 19:55.21 | tobiask | boguh: if you just want to know if it's working i can send you a textfile in utf8 with some chinese characters. |
| 19:55.27 | monra | should I add set vb at the vimrc maybe |
| 19:55.40 | monra | cureless, If I can have back beep and a working vi I would be happy |
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| 19:55.57 | tobiask | boguh: or just go look for a website with exotic glyphs and paste some to your terminal. |
| 19:56.02 | cureless | monra: I'm confused. Does vi not work? I thought your problem was dissabling the bell? |
| 19:56.14 | boguh | tobiask plz offer me that file |
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| 19:56.21 | monra | The problem is I cannot use Down button in VI |
| 19:56.32 | gary_ | monra: I've been trying to automatically turn it off for ages too. I use xset b off when In X but can never get it to do it automatically. |
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| 19:57.09 | cureless | gary_: for the bell in vi you can use set vb |
| 19:57.18 | lewis | found it in /etc/cron.weekly/proftpd - appreciated. |
| 19:57.23 | PhoenixMan | hi. I don't know how netstat works so can someone quickly explain to me |
| 19:57.27 | gary_ | cureless: oh right |
| 19:57.28 | gary_ | cool |
| 19:57.36 | PhoenixMan | I have a server running on port 41218 (random port). |
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| 19:57.48 | PhoenixMan | I want to use the netstat command to retrieve a list of users connected to that port |
| 19:57.49 | monra | Down at the keyboard is working in my Vi, that's the problem! |
| 19:57.50 | PhoenixMan | the IPs, that is |
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| 19:58.03 | monra | the problem is I get in vi now in a file and want to get down, so I click the down button but it doesn't goes, after sometime my Gnome Desktop gets full of HElp window |
| 19:58.04 | PhoenixMan | I've tried typing "netstat :41218" but that didn't work |
| 19:58.08 | cureless | gary_: as for the bell in xterm in general just run your xterm with -vb |
| 19:58.08 | PhoenixMan | it gave me a full list |
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| 19:58.20 | action09 | hi |
| 19:58.21 | gary_ | cureless: I'm using aterm though |
| 19:58.25 | MikePer | Anyone ever heard of a problem 'extremely broken bios detected' when booting from a debian CD? It's on a PC Server 330 |
| 19:58.29 | cureless | gary_: same |
| 19:58.38 | gary_ | cureless: ohhhhhh, thanks |
| 19:58.39 | cureless | monra: have you modified your vimrc? |
| 19:58.43 | yos87 | MTA is slow down the boot, how to stop it? |
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| 19:58.58 | action09 | is there a way to subscribe to a bug ? by BTS ? i mean i want to know when will a bug be solved, and what was did..? |
| 19:59.01 | action09 | thanks in advacne |
| 19:59.13 | action09 | s/advacne/sdvance |
| 19:59.16 | abrotman | !open ports |
| 19:59.16 | dpkg | open ports is, like, netstat -plunt, or lsof -i -n, or (also, see 'open files') |
| 19:59.29 | monra | cureless, I have just added rmmod pscpkr in root for stop belling and settermth -blenght 0 |
| 19:59.50 | cureless | monra: what debian are you using? |
| 20:00.02 | PhoenixMan | um |
| 20:00.05 | action09 | !bts |
| 20:00.05 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 20:00.06 | PhoenixMan | I don't want to see the open ports; I know that |
| 20:00.11 | monra | cureless, Sarge 3.1 |
| 20:00.21 | PhoenixMan | but I want to see which users are connected to a specific port, without getting a big list with also all listening servers etc. |
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| 20:00.33 | cureless | monra: do you have a ~/.vimrc file? |
| 20:00.34 | abrotman | PhoenixMan: fuser -n tcp 41218 .. will show you which process is using it |
| 20:00.49 | PhoenixMan | But... I don't need to know the process.. |
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| 20:00.54 | monra | cureless, yes I do |
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| 20:00.58 | laurens_ | hi. |
| 20:01.03 | cahoot | PhoenixMan: iptraf? |
| 20:01.06 | cureless | monra: who created it? |
| 20:01.09 | PhoenixMan | command not found |
| 20:01.23 | monra | DEbian! |
| 20:01.37 | laurens_ | I'm building my first iptables firewall, a simple 2-ethernet card setup (ext0: cable interface, int0: internal interface) |
| 20:01.53 | laurens_ | can i put the output of iptables-save on a pastebin and could someone check it for me please? |
| 20:01.56 | monra | cureless, it's the /usr/share/vim/vimrc file |
| 20:02.06 | laurens_ | i dont want to screw up, since it's my first firewall :) |
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| 20:02.36 | cureless | monra: when you open a file and you try to go down, is the file empty? |
| 20:02.41 | monra | no |
| 20:02.43 | dandesousa | k-lined |
| 20:02.46 | monra | it has text! |
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| 20:03.11 | cureless | monra: and can you go down with the "j" key? |
| 20:03.27 | laurens_ | monra: vitutor |
| 20:03.48 | monra | cureless, yes I can with j but I want down key not j key |
| 20:03.51 | tobiask | boguh: see the link i sent you? when you `cat` the file on your terminal, you should see some chinese. |
| 20:03.54 | monra | laurens_, I know using vi |
| 20:04.20 | boguh | tobiask nothing |
| 20:04.30 | cureless | monra: what's your TERM variable set to? |
| 20:04.50 | monra | cureless, what does this mean? |
| 20:05.06 | cureless | monra: in the xterm command line type; "echo $TERM" |
| 20:05.13 | action09 | found my info on http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#subscribe :) |
| 20:05.14 | cureless | monra: no quotes. |
| 20:05.15 | tobiask | boguh: what's nothing? no link? no file? or no chinese? |
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| 20:05.51 | boguh | tobiask sry, no chinese, just sqares |
| 20:05.52 | prudhvi | what package provides gpg ? |
| 20:05.54 | monra | cureless, xterm |
| 20:06.06 | tobiask | boguh: then you don't have fonts for chinese installed. |
| 20:06.13 | cureless | monra: are you running vi or vim? |
| 20:06.21 | abrotman | prudhvi: gnupg |
| 20:06.41 | monra | vi |
| 20:06.41 | cureless | monra: nevermind that, move your ~/.vimrc somewhere else, (vimrc-backup) |
| 20:07.03 | boguh | tobiask ok, are the available in debian? |
| 20:07.05 | cureless | monra: btw, do the other keys work? up-left-right? Does the down key work in other applications? |
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| 20:07.24 | monra | down is OK! no keyboprad problem |
| 20:07.29 | monra | other keys work |
| 20:07.48 | cureless | monra: move the .vimrc somewhere else and try again |
| 20:08.06 | monra | where, can you maybe give me your vimrc file to replace?? |
| 20:08.27 | cureless | monra: you don't need a vimrc file for vim to work |
| 20:08.45 | tobiask | boguh: why don't you just look for sth. less exotic? maybe a website in turkish or finnish or so? and paste some into your terminal. |
| 20:08.56 | boguh | tobiask k |
| 20:09.01 | VulpesFoxnik | I need help configuring one of my kernel modules |
| 20:09.03 | escalade | cheal yes auto up |
| 20:09.29 | VulpesFoxnik | My Tv tuner card is being detected as the wrong model |
| 20:09.42 | escalade | cheal: when i set it back to dhcp it works fine when config myself the interface is not comeing up properly :( |
| 20:09.44 | cheal | escalade: so, I don't see why you should remove it. consult the manpage in doubt |
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| 20:09.57 | tobiask | boguh: but if you really want to see chinese "apt-get install xfonts-intl-chinese xfonts-intl-chinese-big tmf-arphic-*" |
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| 20:10.17 | cheal | escalade: what do you mean by "is not comeing up properly"? |
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| 20:10.54 | monra | cureless, deleted vimrc but still nothing |
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| 20:11.22 | Sohail | eeehaaawww:D |
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| 20:11.35 | chinmay | OMFG IRC ROXORS TEH BIG !!1!!1!!11! |
| 20:11.36 | Sohail | hello guys |
| 20:11.36 | POVaddct | set -e |
| 20:11.37 | chinmay | :p |
| 20:11.49 | cureless | monra: ok, do this, open an empty document, then change to insert mode, then type control-V then press the down key. |
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| 20:12.26 | Kartagis | hi |
| 20:12.37 | VulpesFoxnik | Anyone know ANYTHING about setting up Video for linux? |
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| 20:12.44 | boguh | tobiask turkey fonts cant be displayed |
| 20:12.46 | monra | cureless, still nothing |
| 20:12.48 | boguh | tobiask in xterm |
| 20:13.44 | cureless | monra: does anything show on the screen? |
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| 20:13.44 | monra | no |
| 20:13.44 | cureless | monra: now do the same (in insert mode) and type control-V then the up key. |
| 20:13.44 | lokkju | without using dmesg, is there any way to get the major, and minor, version of the current kernel? |
| 20:13.44 | tobiask | boguh: :) scroll up, install the fonts i suggested and look at the file again. |
| 20:13.44 | monra | k |
| 20:13.49 | Kartagis | I want to install debian, but I can't since the installation doesn't recognize my sata hdd. what should I do? |
| 20:14.02 | monra | it prints [OA |
| 20:14.07 | dilsin_bm | how I install compilers GCC in my machine? |
| 20:14.17 | tobiask | boguh: as i said some glyphs aren't displayed in xterm but from the file i gave you, i can see one. |
| 20:14.22 | cureless | monra: and with the down key it didn't print anything? |
| 20:14.28 | monra | yes |
| 20:14.46 | dilsin_bm | how I install compilers GCC in my machine??? |
| 20:14.52 | cureless | monra: either 1. your down key is not working, or 2. some program is capturing the down key. |
| 20:14.52 | PhoenixMan | I'm using the netstat command. How do I filter it so I only see the "Active Internet Connections"? |
| 20:15.05 | sparr | Can anyone name a browser, image editor, or image viewer that renders these images correctly (except for gimp with the PNGs, i know that combo works)? http://sparr.homeip.net/gifsuite/gifsuite.html |
| 20:15.10 | monra | you think so? |
| 20:15.11 | cureless | monra: did you set up hotkeys for gnome/kde and use the down key for something? |
| 20:15.12 | Kartagis | dilsin_bm: sudo apt-get install gcc |
| 20:15.21 | dilsin_bm | kartagis tnx |
| 20:15.25 | Kartagis | np |
| 20:15.28 | abrotman | sparr: eog ? |
| 20:15.31 | cureless | monra: are you sure the down key works for other applications? 100% sure? |
| 20:15.31 | zamolxes | PhoenixMan: netstat ... | grep ESTAB |
| 20:15.36 | monra | cureless, I don'w know but wil check in Windows if down key works |
| 20:15.45 | abrotman | sparr: oh .. uhm |
| 20:15.50 | PhoenixMan | thanks |
| 20:15.50 | boguh | tobiask now is see the symbols |
| 20:15.54 | dilsin_bm | and as I install the essential for the machine? he has a command of the type, apt-get... |
| 20:15.54 | cureless | monra: I thought you had checked with other apps? |
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| 20:16.06 | sparr | abrotman: guesses do not help. eog doesnt work. |
| 20:16.15 | HolyCow_ | I am trying to install debain on an old toshiba laptop. I have finally managed to boot the installer from loadlin. I have a pcmcia ethernet card that I need to use during the installation. How do I get it working. I tried "Preload modules from a floppy" with the net-drivers.img, but the installer sayd it couldn't mount the floppy.. |
| 20:16.16 | Kartagis | I want to install debian, but I can't since the installation doesn't recognize my sata hdd. what mode should I get into? |
| 20:16.23 | abrotman | sparr: uhm .. why are they supposed to loko the same? |
| 20:16.41 | monra | cureless, I thought to! but know check and is not working! |
| 20:16.41 | sparr | abrotman: complementary pixel counts and pixel sizes/aspectratios |
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| 20:16.50 | Kartagis | dilsin_bm: that should be enough |
| 20:16.52 | cureless | monra: stop wasting my time. |
| 20:16.57 | monra | Sorry |
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| 20:17.24 | monra | I don'w know what is going in my pc! I though it was working, I was working it all the time until I use this to stop BEEP |
| 20:17.31 | tobiask | Kartagis: get a recent debian-based live-cd, boot, pray and debootstrap manually. |
| 20:17.47 | monra | Kartagis, ellinas? |
| 20:18.01 | VulpesFoxnik | Anyone know anything about setting up a TV tuner in linux? Mine is being detected by the kernel incorrectly |
| 20:18.15 | Kartagis | monra: are you asking if I am Greek? no, I'm not |
| 20:18.16 | escalade | cheal: gonna hang myself... |
| 20:18.22 | monra | Kartagis, ok |
| 20:18.23 | escalade | cheal: was human error |
| 20:18.23 | monra | bye |
| 20:18.26 | monra | cureless, thanks |
| 20:18.46 | escalade | cheal: adress isf address =) |
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| 20:20.07 | cheal | escalade: OK :) |
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| 20:21.16 | abrotman | sparr: the images are different sizes |
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| 20:21.48 | dragontii | nice quit viper |
| 20:21.54 | abrotman | sparr: rather .. different dimensions |
| 20:22.08 | sparr | abrotman: no, they have a different number of pixels. they have the same dimensions. |
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| 20:22.41 | abrotman | sparr: ask in #web .. but i think the activity i'm seeing is correct |
| 20:22.46 | tobiask | boguh: congratulations |
| 20:22.56 | dilsin_bm | which is the command that installs the essential for my machine? he is something it essential type, apt-get |
| 20:23.01 | sparr | why would you think that? |
| 20:23.02 | asg | dragontii: you can buy that message on a T-Shirt at thinkgeek.com |
| 20:23.13 | asg | dilsin_bm: build-essential? |
| 20:23.20 | dilsin_bm | hm |
| 20:23.40 | abrotman | sparr: it says the dimensions are 128x32 pixels etc .. that's not a square |
| 20:23.46 | boguh | tobiask thx for your help |
| 20:23.59 | sparr | abrotman: it also says the pixels are 1:4 aspect ratio |
| 20:24.00 | tobiask | boguh: welcome |
| 20:24.01 | asg | dilsin_bm: It would be helpful if you provide the context for 'essential' |
| 20:24.09 | sparr | abrotman: for that particular image, that is |
| 20:24.51 | abrotman | sparr: ok .. do browsers even handle that |
| 20:25.24 | sparr | abrotman: none that i can find. gimp and photoshop handle it, gimp with PNGs specifically |
| 20:25.42 | abrotman | sparr: the gimp i have on win32 doesn't |
| 20:25.55 | sparr | not for the gifs i imagine, thats what im implementing in gimp today :) |
| 20:25.58 | abrotman | sparr: barks about the pixels being nonsquare |
| 20:26.07 | sparr | yeah, im fixing that |
| 20:26.11 | sparr | try the PNGs in gimp |
| 20:26.27 | sparr | dont forget to turn off View > Dot for Dot |
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| 20:27.28 | abrotman | sparr: doesn't change anything |
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| 20:28.30 | sparr | abrotman: youve got one of those pngs open, dot for dot turned off, and its not square? |
| 20:28.37 | abrotman | i had a gif |
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| 20:29.08 | abrotman | sparr: works for PNG .. not for gif |
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| 20:29.39 | sparr | yes |
| 20:29.55 | sparr | i am patching gimp to make it work with gimp+gif |
| 20:29.57 | abrotman | sparr: ask #web .. but i doubt any browser handles that |
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| 20:30.06 | sparr | but its hard to test the results of said patch when no other program supports it :( |
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| 20:32.24 | myren | is there a zcat for bzip2 files? |
| 20:32.34 | UncleSkunk | there a way to make menu text in some applications smaller? like for instance im running at 1280x1024 but when I open OpenOffice.org Writer it looks huge like it might be at 800x600 |
| 20:32.42 | asg | myren: bzcat funnily enough |
| 20:32.49 | myren | ah ha, thanks |
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| 20:33.46 | VulpesFoxnik | Could someone please help me debug my Kernel? It's detecting one of my pci cards incorrectly and I have no clue where on my distro where to correct it |
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| 20:36.20 | MikePer | noone heard the error 'extremely broken bios detected' before? |
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| 20:37.22 | abrotman | MikePer: is there a BIOS update available? |
| 20:37.54 | MikePer | I don't know. actually, I never found anything on IBM sites |
| 20:38.00 | Silent_al | whats up with the huge update on Etch... about 100MB... |
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| 20:38.14 | Silent_al | any xorg update among? |
| 20:38.25 | MikePer | I don't say it's not there, I just never found it :) |
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| 20:38.33 | flopp | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.47 | escalade | is there an easy way to manage services in debian? |
| 20:39.00 | escalade | to see running services etc |
| 20:39.02 | [machine] | flopp: i dealt with this |
| 20:39.17 | flopp | where so? |
| 20:39.34 | [machine] | flopp: iirc i found the solution on the debian bugs page, give me a second |
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| 20:39.50 | flopp | ok |
| 20:41.13 | rajulocal | Does anyone know how to configure kmail to use gmail's smtp server? |
| 20:41.25 | UncleSkunk | is there a file I can change or would I have to uninstall and reinstall something for a lower dpi font |
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| 20:41.49 | VulpesFoxnik | Anyone have any experience with V4L? |
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| 20:44.01 | nkuttler | rajulocal: read the gmail doc/help section |
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| 20:45.42 | rajulocal | UncleSkunk: I know how to do this in KDE. What is your DE? |
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| 20:46.17 | rajulocal | nkuttler: I read there. But it is very ambiguous. Should I use SSL or TSL? |
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| 20:47.10 | UncleSkunk | I be in fluxbox on etch |
| 20:47.16 | nkuttler | rajulocal: ssl afaik. don't they have a kmail specific section? the cover so many clients... |
| 20:47.28 | Silent_al | Whats the best way to move the root\home directory from one partition to another partition on a different HD ? |
| 20:47.43 | nkuttler | rajulocal: it not on a standard port iirc |
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| 20:48.13 | rajulocal | nkuttler: No. They do not have kmail section. |
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| 20:48.25 | rajulocal | UncleSkunk: Sorry, I dont know how to do this fluxbox. |
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| 20:49.03 | rajulocal | They say to use 465 or 587. |
| 20:49.20 | rajulocal | nkuttler: I tried both the ports. But to no avail. |
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| 20:51.00 | konrad127123 | Hi. I can connect from computer A to computer B and from computer B to computer C via SSH. Is it possible to get X forwarding to work over such a connection and if so, how? (computer B is not running an X server) |
| 20:51.03 | nkuttler | rajulocal: i use 587 + ssl + user/pass authentication |
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| 20:52.11 | rajulocal | nkuttler: and does it work? |
| 20:52.21 | tam | does anyone know if debian nvidia drivers does twinview nicely or is it a mess? |
| 20:52.29 | nkuttler | binaryfour: don't do that |
| 20:52.32 | Fubarovic | i'm installing woody, but i can't get my network up |
| 20:52.39 | Fubarovic | i have an ip and i can ping pc's on the lan |
| 20:52.41 | Fubarovic | but dns won't work |
| 20:52.48 | Fubarovic | nor can i ping external ips |
| 20:52.54 | nkuttler | rajulocal: sure |
| 20:53.10 | rajulocal | nkuttler: You said user/pass authentication. But I do not have that as an option. |
| 20:53.17 | loxley_ | dragontii: here? i continued the investigation of the box, it was indeed rooted with the suckit rootkit... :( |
| 20:53.21 | petemc | Fubarovic: you need to edit /etc/resolv.conf, adding the correct ips for your nameservers, and add a default route |
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| 20:53.36 | rajulocal | nkuttler: I have login, plain etc., but there is no user/pass authentication |
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| 20:53.56 | Fubarovic | petemc: i've added my nameserver |
| 20:54.02 | Fubarovic | didn't do the route thingy tho |
| 20:54.07 | Fubarovic | dare i ask how? |
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| 20:54.32 | nkuttler | rajulocal: i'm pretty sure they have a general configuration help. if not read that for thunderbird. should be similar |
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| 20:55.09 | Fubarovic | hm, my route is indeed wrong |
| 20:55.14 | Fubarovic | it's using the wrong ip |
| 20:55.32 | rajulocal | nkuttler: The general configuration help is at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287 It does not explain about authentication. |
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| 20:56.43 | petemc | Fubarovic: edit /etc/network/interfaces , adding a line with gateway 1.2.3.4 , then /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:57.13 | Fubarovic | petemc: i'm still busy installing |
| 20:57.21 | Fubarovic | i need to use the "route" command |
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| 20:58.00 | nkuttler | Fubarovic: add /sbin to your $PATH? |
| 20:58.11 | petemc | Fubarovic: route del default gw 1.2.3.4 , i think - i use ip |
| 20:58.43 | Fubarovic | thx petemc |
| 20:59.05 | petemc | np |
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| 21:01.51 | escalade | i changed the ip of my server, i use mambo. now when i go to the site is stil wants to go to the old ip address? where do i need to change that address? apache2, php or mysql? |
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| 21:02.59 | petemc | escalade: sounds like you need to update dns |
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| 21:04.01 | konfuzed | ffucken crap shit |
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| 21:04.25 | konfuzed | browser just disappeared for no reason while in the middle of a long email |
| 21:04.39 | konfuzed | I have to rant here cause thats where that damn keyboard came up |
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| 21:05.54 | omry | hi, trying to use k3b. it tell me I need to modify the permissions on cdrecord and cdrdao using k3bsetup, but k3bsetup shows an empty dialog. how do I fix the permissions manually? (tried to played with the sticky bit, but k3b still bitch) |
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| 21:07.56 | mixter | hi! i get a lot of these in my error log for apache2: child pid 9063 exit signal Segmentation fault. i've read somewhere that php doesn't work well with the "new" worker-model in apache2. could someone confirm or deny that? |
| 21:07.56 | alpha1_ | is this chat room really about all things DEBIAN??? |
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| 21:08.11 | mixter | alpha1_: i guess so :-) |
| 21:08.18 | alpha1_ | lol |
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| 21:08.49 | iter | mixter: php works pretty well with apache2 |
| 21:09.32 | mixter | iter: do you know if it matters if i run the old fashioned prefork model or the worker model of apache2? |
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| 21:10.47 | alpha1_ | why dont you got into Synaptic package handler and see if you have all the right apache packages installed |
| 21:10.55 | lewis | what is the best way to alternate incoming apache requests between two machines? (effectively load balancing I guess, but just splitting the load 50/50) |
| 21:10.57 | alpha1_ | thats what I would do |
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| 21:11.38 | iter | mixter: sorry don't know |
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| 21:12.18 | xomhau | hi * |
| 21:12.22 | mixter | iter: it seems to have nothing to do with php anyway, i get this error when accessing an ordinary html page too. thanks anyway! i'll look further |
| 21:12.28 | Covener | mixter: not all the libraries php links with are threadsafe, so they can be problematic in worker |
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| 21:13.09 | xomhau | i've 1Gb RAM => swap=? 2Gb? |
| 21:13.12 | Seb | omry: try chmod 4755 /usr/bin/cdrecord |
| 21:13.19 | xomhau | sorry , my english not well |
| 21:13.21 | Seb | omry: that should set the suid bit |
| 21:13.23 | mixter | Covener: hmm... ok! maby i should go for the prefork instead then. i will use this server for mysql and phpmyadmin |
| 21:13.29 | abrotman | xomhau: that's fine .. maybe even too much |
| 21:13.29 | Felina | i have a printer lexmark 1100 in a win xp that i will lake to use with my debian , this printer is in a 2nd pc and they are conect to internet with dsl they network ... what tool can i use in order to add the printer to my debian ? |
| 21:13.33 | Seb | xomhau: yeah, double the ram to get swap |
| 21:13.38 | abrotman | xomhau: depends what the server is going to do |
| 21:13.39 | xomhau | thank |
| 21:13.40 | mixter | xomhau: if you have the diskspace that would be just fine |
| 21:13.44 | abrotman | server/workstatoin |
| 21:13.58 | xomhau | abrotman, workstatoin |
| 21:14.04 | abrotman | and 2GB is also the max for a swap partition IIRC |
| 21:14.37 | omry | Seb, I still the the warning message.. but maybe its just k3b thinking I didn't run the setup... |
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| 21:15.58 | simplex | I'm wondering, why is the nslookup "ls" utility removed, and is there an alternative to this in debian? |
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| 21:16.16 | petemc | simplex: dig has replaced nslookup |
| 21:16.18 | mixter | simplex: use `dig` or `host` instead |
| 21:16.23 | abrotman | "replaced" :) |
| 21:16.28 | simplex | okay thanks. |
| 21:16.29 | mixter | simplex: nslookup is deprecated |
| 21:16.33 | petemc | superceeded |
| 21:16.36 | xomhau | and, i use amd64 , unstable, fluxbox 0.9.15 , but icons in menu not appearance |
| 21:16.38 | omry | Seb, doesn't work. from the error log of k3b: "Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?", ls -l `which cdrecord` : -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-01-07 20:43 /usr/bin/cdrecord |
| 21:16.40 | xomhau | how i can do? |
| 21:16.47 | xomhau | or /join #fluxbox :D |
| 21:16.56 | abrotman | petemc: according to some debian document .. iproute has "replaced" route or some crap like that |
| 21:17.04 | Seb | omry: so it is setuid root |
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| 21:17.15 | ChrisW | anyone here use the nessusd package? |
| 21:17.18 | petemc | abrotman: indeed it has |
| 21:17.25 | simplex | Thank you. |
| 21:17.26 | abrotman | petemc: even though it's not in the base-install :) |
| 21:17.41 | petemc | abrotman: the wheels of debian move slowly :) |
| 21:17.43 | omry | Seb, didn't get it. |
| 21:17.53 | abrotman | petemc: iirc .. the document is dated .. about five years ago |
| 21:17.55 | galvAtr0n | does debian 3.1rev1 support amd64 ? |
| 21:18.15 | petemc | abrotman: i still use /etc/rc.boot/ , it was obsoleted over 5 years ago |
| 21:18.34 | abrotman | !tell petemc about rc.boot |
| 21:18.37 | petemc | deprecated, even |
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| 21:18.50 | abrotman | galvAtr0n: unofficially |
| 21:18.58 | cheal | galvAtr0n: depends on what you mean exactly. amd64 CPUs are supported. the amd64 port is unofficial |
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| 21:19.18 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 21:19.18 | dpkg | i guess amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
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| 21:19.47 | galvAtr0n | i was looking for a good 64bit linux distro to run Xgl on |
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| 21:20.19 | omry | Seb, figured it out. k3b used cdrecord.mmap instead of cdrecord |
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| 21:20.59 | abrotman | does any distro have xgl released yet? |
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| 21:21.15 | myren | there was a distro like 3 days after release |
| 21:21.19 | myren | livecd & all |
| 21:21.23 | myren | explicitly for xgl basically |
| 21:21.30 | abrotman | does it install though? |
| 21:21.34 | myren | uhhh, no way in hell i'm going to remember the name though |
| 21:21.40 | myren | i think it does |
| 21:21.41 | abrotman | ubuntu ? |
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| 21:21.43 | myren | knoppix based, iirc |
| 21:21.51 | myren | heh, no. ;-] |
| 21:21.58 | abrotman | myren: galvAtr0n: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/10/0532227 |
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| 21:22.57 | Fubarovic | where do i configure debian to use dhcp for eth0? |
| 21:23.04 | Fubarovic | it's been a long install night, sorry for the noobness |
| 21:23.12 | alpha1_ | lol |
| 21:23.13 | nachoguy | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:23.33 | abrotman | !tell Fubarovic about interfaces |
| 21:23.33 | galvAtr0n | thanks ;) |
| 21:23.36 | abrotman | !nachos |
| 21:23.36 | dpkg | schweet. |
| 21:23.37 | alpha1_ | I cannot belief all the people logged into here.. wow |
| 21:23.47 | abrotman | alpha1_: there have been more |
| 21:23.49 | Fubarovic | thank you abrotman |
| 21:23.54 | alpha1_ | amazing |
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| 21:24.02 | alpha1_ | is this the debian army??? lol |
| 21:24.28 | abrotman | alpha1_: no .. this is the lurking army |
| 21:24.38 | alpha1_ | I was just checking out Xchat seeing how it worked and it logged me into here |
| 21:25.07 | ricochet | I'm trying to upgrade my sendmail>procmail>uw-imap setup to use Maildir instead of mbox. How do I get procmail to deliver mail in maildir instead of mbox? |
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| 21:26.14 | abrotman | ricochet: there is a #procmail that you might ask too |
| 21:26.17 | ricochet | I think I just need to put something in /etc/procmailrc, and also use dovecot or courier-imap .. any suggestions? |
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| 21:26.50 | ricochet | abrotman, oh thanks |
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| 21:27.50 | errorlevel | I need some advice. I need to configure an FTP server that can allow me to set up a user that is not a local user, but whose files and directories will be created as owned by a specified local user. |
| 21:27.50 | alpha1_ | hey is there an IRC channel just for SAMBA ?? |
| 21:27.50 | wakeman | hi! i need some help for rsync, basically i want to do automatic backups on dvd, so i run every day a cron jobs which synchronizes with rsync two directories. one of this directory should be burned to a dvd+rw, but it doesn't have to grow over 4.4Gb, do you have ideas about how to make a dir not grow over a given size? |
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| 21:28.36 | errorlevel | Does anybody have any recommendations for a simple to configure FTP daemon that would allow me to achieve that goal? |
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| 21:28.52 | Fubarovic | wakeman: use an archiving tool and split up the volumes |
| 21:28.55 | Fubarovic | just a thought |
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| 21:29.14 | cheal | !tell alpha1_ about samba |
| 21:30.01 | LoRez | wakeman: shoot people in the feet if they make it larger than that. |
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| 21:30.24 | alpha1_ | yes please do I am having problems getting samba server configured |
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| 21:30.36 | ChrisW | alpha1_: try #samba |
| 21:30.44 | abrotman | alpha1_: oddly .. #samba |
| 21:30.45 | alpha1_ | k thanks chris.. cool |
| 21:30.51 | alpha1_ | will check it out for sure |
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| 21:31.04 | simplex | When I follow the example in the man pages, dig +qr whatever.com isn't returning an entire zone, just a list of A and IN records. |
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| 21:31.13 | simplex | How could you request my entire zone? |
| 21:31.26 | action09 | yop i'm trying to read a dvd with toem and get a msg 'The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?' |
| 21:31.28 | petemc | simplex: axfr |
| 21:31.32 | action09 | i installed libdvdcss2 |
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| 21:32.19 | alpha1_ | its the debian army in here... :p |
| 21:32.34 | Shadowcat | army? |
| 21:32.35 | abrotman | alpha1_: not really |
| 21:32.39 | Shadowcat | this is just one contingent |
| 21:32.43 | alpha1_ | sure looks like it |
| 21:32.46 | Shadowcat | you should see the size of the divison |
| 21:32.53 | alpha1_ | almost 800 logged into here??? |
| 21:32.59 | abrotman | pah .. off day |
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| 21:33.30 | g0th | hi, I configured my system to automatically mount my usb external harddrive, but I forgot how I did it (ie. the package / conf file name), can someone help? |
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| 21:33.41 | g0th | It probably has something to do with udev |
| 21:33.42 | petemc | g0th: usbmount |
| 21:33.45 | g0th | ohh |
| 21:33.46 | g0th | thanks |
| 21:34.10 | g0th | hmm, it is installed |
| 21:34.11 | g0th | hmm |
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| 21:34.40 | celphz | syn a todos |
| 21:35.15 | celphz | me he comprqdo una memoria flash usb, compatible con kernels a partir del 2.4 |
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| 21:35.23 | Shadowcat | !english |
| 21:35.23 | dpkg | i guess english is a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!! |
| 21:35.25 | celphz | de momento me los ha encontrado en el inicio |
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| 21:35.31 | celphz | ups, sorry |
| 21:35.45 | celphz | i've thinking that's the spanish channel :( |
| 21:35.50 | Shadowcat | !es |
| 21:35.50 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:36.20 | g0th | hmm, yes and it seems to be ok |
| 21:36.25 | celphz | I've buy a usb flash memory compatible with kernels 2.4 and above |
| 21:36.26 | mrkorn | how do I choose one of those graphical bootloader images? I had one before but I had to reinstall windows and then grub and its back to the blue text menu |
| 21:36.27 | g0th | (usbmount) |
| 21:36.43 | celphz | How I can find it and mount? |
| 21:36.48 | g0th | but it stopped working since the last update, strange, I'll check the bugreports |
| 21:36.50 | petemc | g0th: check dmesg, syslog |
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| 21:37.33 | celphz | g0th: the usbmount is for me? |
| 21:37.37 | g0th | dmesg tells me it's found |
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| 21:37.45 | simplex | I'm wondering, my /etc/resolv.conf keeps messing up.... I do a dhclient, and I get the nds servers from my isps dhcp server, and then a few seconds later the /etc/resolv.conf no longer has the dns servers, and has 192.168.1.2 in it. What could be causing this? |
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| 21:37.52 | g0th | and mount works fine |
| 21:38.00 | g0th | but it's not done automatically |
| 21:38.47 | g0th | celphz: hmm? I wasn't speaking to you if you mean that... |
| 21:39.04 | celphz | ok, forget it :P |
| 21:39.18 | jayeola | dpkg: apptitude |
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| 21:39.25 | g0th | ahh |
| 21:39.25 | g0th | Apr 10 23:37:31 defiant usbmount[8765]: cannnot execute /sbin/vol_id |
| 21:39.32 | ChrisW | where does aptitude keep packages it downloads? |
| 21:39.40 | g0th | I don't have that command |
| 21:39.48 | ChrisW | I'm looking for a README.build.Debian file for a package i just installed... |
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| 21:40.16 | jayeola | dpkg: aptitude |
| 21:40.16 | dpkg | from memory, aptitude is a powerful and flexible package manager which is not afraid to experiment with new ideas. http://aptitude.sourceforge.net, or 'apt-get install aptitude', or http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg03138.html. But be careful boys'n'grilfs: Bug# 299009 |
| 21:40.17 | simplex | petemc: I'm getting a transfer failed when I try that, yet I know I have the right dns server. |
| 21:40.34 | petemc | simplex: it would appear you dont |
| 21:40.47 | cheal | ChrisW: AFAIK aptitude only downloads .deb-s |
| 21:40.51 | zood_ | Could someone point me to info on printing to a networked (HP) printer? I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the info out there |
| 21:40.53 | g0th | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.54 | simplex | petemc: You said axfr right? |
| 21:41.02 | jayeola | can others see the results of my dpkg enquires? |
| 21:41.04 | petemc | simplex: the majority of dns servers wont allow axfr to just anyone |
| 21:41.23 | cheal | jayeola: yes |
| 21:41.28 | jayeola | thanks |
| 21:41.31 | g0th | Does / Should apt-file work now? |
| 21:41.54 | lepton | zood_: is cupsd running? |
| 21:41.59 | petemc | g0th: works fine for me |
| 21:42.04 | cheal | zood_: do you use a particular X session manager? |
| 21:42.33 | zood_ | I don't seem to have cups running. I'm using kdm/kde |
| 21:42.34 | g0th | how do I check? Is it normal, that apt-file update doesn't print anything for a long time? |
| 21:42.43 | petemc | g0th: yes, it takes a while |
| 21:42.46 | simplex | petemc: ;; global options: printcmd ; Transfer failed. <--- I know for a fact this dns server allows axfr (it's mine) and my friend using nslookup can do it. |
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| 21:43.10 | g0th | can you check for me where /sbin/vol_id should be in? |
| 21:43.16 | petemc | simplex: if its your dns server, check the logs |
| 21:43.38 | simplex | petemc: k. |
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| 21:46.20 | lepton | zood_: does anything come up if you browse to http://localhost:631/ ? |
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| 21:46.41 | jMCg | Hello boys and girls. |
| 21:46.56 | jMCg | I was wondering if you could help me out with a slight debian related apache problem. |
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| 21:47.09 | lepton | !ask |
| 21:47.09 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 21:47.12 | zood_ | lepton, connection refused |
| 21:47.17 | jMCg | lepton, I was about to do so. |
| 21:47.39 | lepton | zood_: is cupsys installed? |
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| 21:48.36 | lepton | zood_: maybe the tutorial at linuxprinting.org would be helpful ? |
| 21:48.43 | jMCg | I have a problem with apache2; I'm running Debian Sarge. When I do httpd -M I don't get anything. Because I there is no such thing as httpd in the apache2 packages. |
| 21:49.12 | g0th | got it |
| 21:49.13 | g0th | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317022 |
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| 21:49.41 | zood_ | lepton, no. Okay I'll check link thanks |
| 21:49.55 | ohad | hi, what do i modprobe to load this sound card on my kernel? 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller |
| 21:49.57 | ohad | ? |
| 21:50.16 | lepton | jMCg: dpkg -L apache2 |less ; scan for executables |
| 21:50.28 | Eulex | ohad, snd_intel8x0 and snd_ac97_codec |
| 21:52.10 | cureless | jMCg: try apache2 |
| 21:52.14 | g0th | hmm, they speak about 0.0.13, but I already have 0.0.14 ;) anyway, I'll simply manually fix it |
| 21:52.26 | petemc | jMCg: what is -M supposed to do? |
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| 21:52.36 | toxic_ | Is there a way I can get Eterm to launch with options ? (ie I want to run something like "Eterm --command tail -f /var/log/somelog" |
| 21:52.36 | jMCg | cureless, petemc print a shit load of info. |
| 21:52.44 | jMCg | About what modules I've got loaded. |
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| 21:53.01 | ChrisW | If I want to add information to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=310740, how do I do it? |
| 21:53.06 | cureless | jMCg: and it's not the apache2 executable? |
| 21:53.40 | jMCg | cureless, I wouldn't come here, ask stupid sounding questions, have my ass whipped by lepton if apache2 -M would give me what I wanted. |
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| 21:54.11 | g0th | hmm, damn, I don't have any vol_id like program :( |
| 21:54.25 | g0th | but apt-file shows me that udev should have it, but it doesn't seem to have |
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| 21:56.07 | cureless | jMCg: I haven't heard of the -M, so I wouldn't know. Where did you read about -M or use it? |
| 21:56.11 | g0th | well there is /lib/udev/vol_id |
| 21:56.12 | petemc | nor i |
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| 21:56.17 | g0th | something seems to be messed up :( |
| 21:57.09 | jMCg | cureless, there's something people call DOCs. Usually when I package a program, I would try not to contradict those docs TOO MUCH. |
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| 21:57.50 | petemc | jMCg: before you get too much of an attitude, ive tried 3 different os's and apache on none of them is aware of -M |
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| 21:58.09 | cureless | jMCg: I'm just asking where you got the -M information from? If you got it from some docs, which docs? |
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| 21:58.18 | laurens_ | does debian have rc.local? |
| 21:58.26 | petemc | laurens_: /msg dpkg rc.local |
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| 21:59.00 | g0th | thanks for the help, I hope this is soon fixed... |
| 21:59.07 | g0th | works for me now at least :) |
| 21:59.55 | jMCg | cureless, it's probably the same docs, which should've told me, that -M is Apache 2.2 and get some coffee. |
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| 22:01.12 | toxic_ | Is there a way I can get Eterm to launch with options ? (ie I want to run something like "Eterm --command tail -f /var/log/somelog" |
| 22:01.40 | petemc | toxic_: most terminals have that facility, check the man page |
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| 22:01.41 | mrkorn | does anyone know if you can get flash player 8 plugin? the one is sarge is 7 and its not working for some sites |
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| 22:02.10 | dimir | Flash? RMS wouldn't be proud of that! |
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| 22:02.51 | toxic_ | petemc, yeah I did, neither seemed to work. That's why I'm hearing around if anyone else has a ncie fix. |
| 22:02.53 | michael117 | How can I mount an ISO disk image to appear as though it were virtually a CD drive and the disk was inside of it? Similar to the way that Alcohol 120% or daemon tools do for windows |
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| 22:03.04 | toxic_ | petemc, eterm -e 'ls;bash -l' was my first choise, failed though |
| 22:03.18 | quitte | michael117: cdemu.sf.net |
| 22:03.21 | petemc | toxic_: ah, im no help to you im afraid |
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| 22:05.53 | pjota | hi there, folks |
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| 22:06.02 | jMCg | Okay boys, works now. Great thanks. |
| 22:06.15 | smoser | anyone know of a way to keep a manifest (md5sums of all files) in CVS, such that on each checkin, the manifest is updated? |
| 22:06.18 | pjota | any GNU C chatroom to recomend? |
| 22:06.44 | quitte | pjota: #gcc? |
| 22:06.45 | jMCg | pjota, /j #C or was it ##C usually should do. |
| 22:07.00 | mrkorn | can I get a firewall check? I am having a hell of a time connecting to some peer networks not sure whats up.. only gnutella works |
| 22:07.09 | pjota | thanks quitte, jMCg |
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| 22:07.57 | smoser | i'm hoping to have a file in a directory updated on checkin, such that it's md5 (or sha1) sum is all I need to know to know whether or not the source changed. |
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| 22:08.05 | jMCg | mrkorn, IP, I'll give you an nmap and a nessus, if you want. |
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| 22:08.36 | mrkorn | jMCg: sure.. dont need details.. just need to see if the kernel or ISP is blocking anything that is causing me problems |
| 22:08.42 | morbius | so I am trying to install debian w/the netinstall for amd64, (2.6.8-11) with a SATA CD-ROM and SATA HDD....it won't find my cdrom even though I've modprobe'd sata_nv...any suggestions>? |
| 22:08.53 | tarzeau | morbius: hehe |
| 22:08.58 | mrkorn | mrkorn: I got like ares, fasttrack, openft, gnutella.. only gnutella works |
| 22:08.59 | tarzeau | morbius: try ubuntu server install? |
| 22:09.06 | tarzeau | morbius: rape d-i to include your own kernel or try |
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| 22:09.08 | morbius | no.... |
| 22:09.10 | tarzeau | debian gnu/kfreebsd , see #gnu-kbsd |
| 22:09.13 | tarzeau | i did it like that |
| 22:09.20 | tarzeau | then switched to my own kernel + sid |
| 22:09.30 | tarzeau | and yes, i don't have any ubuntu left in dpkg -l |
| 22:09.31 | jMCg | mrkorn, I guess it's a ISP issue. |
| 22:10.08 | morbius | hmm, I thought 2.6 was supposed to have sata support... |
| 22:10.13 | tarzeau | morbius: it does |
| 22:10.50 | mrkorn | jMCg: probably *shrug* I know other people on the same ISP with windows and NAT routers that can get on Ares and Fastrack using a gift server... I am on debian sarge directly connected to the modem and as far I as I can see I got no firewall on the system and nothing but gift running right now |
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| 22:11.05 | morbius | then shoudln't I be able to do something from termainl to fix this? |
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| 22:14.23 | Silent_al | hi, is there a limit for a size of a fat partition? |
| 22:15.01 | mrkorn | any clues on the grub images? I got the text login again when I reinstalled grub from chroot I wanted the grapical boot image |
| 22:15.04 | jMCg | mrkorn, is that a self made up IPtables thing? |
| 22:15.35 | mrkorn | jMCg: I dont have any idea I thought I just had a standard sarge install of 2.6.8 and didnt have iptables |
| 22:15.52 | escalade | lol regged a domainname... it stil goes the oldschool way :/ need to send papers :/ |
| 22:15.54 | toxic_ | Does anyone know how I can use grep with root-tail ? (no, root-tail - logfile | grep mask) doesn't work. (Doesn't have to be grep, anything that makes root-tail adapt to print text that only matches pattern) |
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| 22:16.46 | Blissex | toxic_: invert the order... Oh man, thats so obvious :-) |
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| 22:17.08 | toxic_ | Blissex, haha, I'll give it a try :) |
| 22:17.38 | Blissex | toxic_: 'grep ... logfile | roottail -' |
| 22:17.44 | Corridor | re |
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| 22:18.25 | toxic_ | Blissex, hmm, good thinking, but that doesn't seem to work . |
| 22:18.53 | toxic_ | Blissex, grep ssh /var/log/auth.log | root-tail - |
| 22:19.24 | Blissex | toxic_: ahhh, because you want it to be continuous, don't you? |
| 22:19.33 | toxic_ | Blissex, yeah |
| 22:19.53 | Blissex | toxic_: then use 'tail .... | grep .... | root-tail -' |
| 22:20.25 | toxic_ | Blissex, yes of course .. That ought to work, thanks for the ideas |
| 22:20.36 | Blissex | toxic_: then use 'tail -f .... | grep .... | root-tail -' |
| 22:20.51 | Blissex | I had forgotten the '-f' |
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| 22:21.07 | toxic_ | Blissex, Yup, I realised that one :) |
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| 22:21.46 | overclocker | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.01 | pipeline | overclocker: DRI is a bad idea on mobile chipsets. |
| 22:22.07 | pipeline | overclocker: It breaks suspend/resume |
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| 22:23.19 | n17ikh|Lappy | what is the debian equivalent of gentoo's rc-update? |
| 22:23.56 | jMCg | ha ha |
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| 22:24.24 | pipeline | n17ikh|Lappy: There isn't one. Debian updates your configuration files automatically. |
| 22:24.43 | n17ikh|Lappy | ..adding things to the runlevels? |
| 22:24.47 | pipeline | n17ikh|Lappy: If you simply want to modify boot scripts, sysv-rc-config |
| 22:24.53 | overclocker | pipeline: all the drivers?, do you know how could i change the amount of memory dedicated to video? |
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| 22:25.18 | pipeline | overclocker: When debconf prompts you for an amount of memory while configuring the x server, give it something |
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| 22:26.18 | Kerr_ | how can i allow myself to use the full capacity of a drive? |
| 22:26.24 | Kerr_ | /dev/hda1 74G 69G 1.2G 99% /media/hda1 |
| 22:26.56 | jMCg | Kerr_, ext(2|3)fs ? |
| 22:27.06 | Kerr_ | I guess some space is reserved.. but don't really see why |
| 22:27.09 | Kerr_ | ext3 iirc |
| 22:27.20 | jMCg | Well then you guessed correctly. |
| 22:27.43 | n17ikh|Lappy | Kerr_, I have noticed df is wrong on my system |
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| 22:28.13 | n17ikh|Lappy | it gives the correct amount used and total space but is utterly wrong with free space and percent free |
| 22:28.59 | overclocker | pipeline: i said 32MB, but it only takes 12MB |
| 22:29.19 | Kerr_ | what's so special about the last few gb of my media drive? I could understand limiting the root partition, so users cant stuff the drive and kill the system, but surely that isn't needed in this case |
| 22:30.08 | n17ikh|Lappy | Kerr_: in my case I could keep on writing till the drive was filled |
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| 22:30.15 | n17ikh|Lappy | I had 10 gigs more space after df said it was full |
| 22:30.50 | jMCg | Good night folks. |
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| 22:35.58 | andres2 | hi |
| 22:36.31 | andres2 | how to boot debian from a floppy ? |
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| 22:38.17 | streuner | andres2: did you read ig? |
| 22:38.19 | streuner | !ig |
| 22:38.19 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 22:38.29 | andres2 | ok. |
| 22:38.48 | streuner | set up BIOS that it boots from floppy |
| 22:38.55 | laurens_ | ok |
| 22:38.57 | laurens_ | so |
| 22:39.03 | laurens_ | i have this firewall script |
| 22:39.09 | laurens_ | i want to run it every time at boot |
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| 22:39.28 | laurens_ | just after the interfaces come up, i guess |
| 22:39.31 | laurens_ | where do i put it? |
| 22:39.38 | laurens_ | the debian way ofc |
| 22:39.42 | streuner | read interfaces |
| 22:39.55 | streuner | !interfaces |
| 22:39.55 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 22:40.02 | streuner | read examples |
| 22:40.10 | laurens_ | thanks |
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| 22:41.48 | Kerr_ | streuner: How can i get df to report free hd space correctly/unreserve free space i can't access ? |
| 22:42.21 | laurens_ | should my firewall script be executed pre-up, post-up, or just up in my external interface configuration in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:42.35 | wakeman | what to use instead of /etc/networking/options? |
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| 22:42.55 | streuner | nothing? |
| 22:43.08 | streuner | newer version doesn't support options, IIRC |
| 22:43.20 | wakeman | so if i want to enable forwarding |
| 22:43.23 | andres2 | i don't need to install from a floppy but, boot an existing debian instalation. w/o altering hard disk boot sector. |
| 22:43.29 | wakeman | what it the preferred place to do it? |
| 22:43.56 | streuner | andres2: that would be *HARD* |
| 22:44.20 | andres2 | ok |
| 22:44.38 | streuner | as i said before, options isn't used anymore in unstable/sid |
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| 22:45.44 | litui | is there any reason why libxine under testing and unstable wouldn't be correctly playing mp3s? |
| 22:45.56 | streuner | wakeman: man interfaces should say more about |
| 22:46.52 | streuner | post-up of course, if you run the firewall script |
| 22:47.10 | streuner | post-up command |
| 22:47.11 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.22 | wakeman | thanks streuner |
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| 22:49.09 | streuner | well, i never touched options to run a router, IIRC |
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| 22:49.54 | streuner | ipmasq was always enough |
| 22:50.05 | streuner | and some changes on the client side, of course |
| 22:50.15 | andres2 | i have found how to "Installing GRUB on a floppy with no filesystem" -> http://www.openbg.net/sto/os/xml/grub.html#raw_floppy |
| 22:50.38 | streuner | sure, that would boot the 'floppy-kernel'... |
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| 22:51.17 | streuner | but without alter the MBR its pretty hard, i cannot see a reason why you don't want to alter it |
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| 22:52.10 | streuner | there are ways to copy the orginal MBR back |
| 22:52.18 | streuner | if you want to do this later |
| 22:52.53 | andres2 | i think there is some problem with the disk the BIOS can't boot from the disk. |
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| 22:53.25 | streuner | there are usually problems to boot from CDROM, but HD? |
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| 22:53.45 | andres2 | yes... |
| 22:53.56 | streuner | what kind? |
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| 22:54.59 | streuner | best is to use bootloader to alter MBR in hda |
| 22:56.01 | andres2 | Is and **old** machine and don't detect the hard drive geometry. |
| 22:56.33 | streuner | did you try to change BIOS? |
| 22:56.45 | andres2 | nope. |
| 22:56.50 | streuner | Auto, LBA, CHS or whatever? |
| 22:57.11 | zood_ | After plugging in a USB wireless adapter (belkin) I get messages in dmesg saying "Cannot enable port 2. Maybe the usb cable is bad?" However, other usb devices (camera) seem to work fine. Is my wireless adapter broken or is there some other explanation? |
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| 22:57.38 | andres2 | I write the geometry manually, then i get an error, despite this, the debian installer recognize the disk and even copy the files to it. |
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| 22:58.25 | streuner | so its possible, BIOS and OS can *see* and *work* with the HD... |
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| 22:59.35 | andres2 | But can't boot. |
| 22:59.52 | streuner | well, let debian touch the MBR then |
| 23:00.56 | andres2 | I will give a try ... again ... |
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| 23:01.43 | pagey007 | hello all |
| 23:01.50 | pagey007 | from NZ |
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| 23:02.24 | SimonRaven | really, i thought that .nz was faked :P |
| 23:02.44 | pagey007 | lol |
| 23:02.46 | pagey007 | no |
| 23:03.02 | pagey007 | New Zealand |
| 23:03.15 | streuner | we don't use those habits here, because in a channel which is frequently that much, i would be a nightmare then... |
| 23:03.26 | streuner | s/i/it/ |
| 23:03.38 | andres2 | I will give you the news later... bye streuner |
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| 23:03.47 | streuner | good luck |
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| 23:04.13 | bulio | If I switch over from slackware 10.2 to debian, must I lose my home dir? |
| 23:04.30 | streuner | backup? |
| 23:04.33 | bbrazil | bulio: no |
| 23:04.38 | pagey007 | No |
| 23:04.42 | andres2 | ok , thanks. |
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| 23:05.05 | zood_ | What would be the proper way to install a newer kernel (namely 2.6.12 or higher) on sarge and, is this advisable? |
| 23:05.18 | pagey007 | synaptic |
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| 23:05.39 | zenwryly | Id love to have a way to install multiple versions of web browsers for testing sites. Is there a good "Debian" way to do this? I'd love to have a way to do this with apt. |
| 23:05.59 | streuner | isn't a good thing to get rid of all the old pr0n you have in /home ? ;-) |
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| 23:06.04 | zood_ | pagey007 can't install synaptic |
| 23:06.25 | pagey007 | It is in Sarge1 |
| 23:06.28 | pagey007 | ! |
| 23:06.58 | pagey007 | from memory |
| 23:07.10 | bulio | bbrazil: so delete all my partitions except for home? |
| 23:07.14 | pagey007 | I am in Kanotix/debian sid |
| 23:07.32 | pagey007 | apt-get install synaptic |
| 23:07.37 | zood_ | pagey007 old machine with limited hd and no net connection |
| 23:07.38 | streuner | pagey007: #kanotix |
| 23:07.39 | pagey007 | as # |
| 23:07.45 | pagey007 | yes |
| 23:07.49 | thingfish | zood_: you can try the 2.6.15 from backports.org... |
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| 23:08.44 | pagey007 | 2.6.15.1 goes well |
| 23:08.49 | bulio | also, can I do a net install, or do I have to burn CDs? |
| 23:08.52 | bbrazil | bulio: if you have a home partition then that'll work, probaly best to take a backup anyway |
| 23:09.01 | bulio | ok |
| 23:09.03 | alpha1_ | I just did a full net install.. it went great |
| 23:09.09 | gravity | ugh... kanotix. |
| 23:09.10 | alpha1_ | I got 3 desktops goin now |
| 23:09.11 | bbrazil | bulio: is it a primary or extended partition? |
| 23:09.13 | tsk_ | when I try to apt dist-upgrade from Sarge 3.1 I get an error. manpages-dev triest to replace create_module.2.gz .. How can I solve this?? I cant find any sollution on google.. |
| 23:09.15 | bulio | is there a net install guide? |
| 23:09.21 | bulio | bbrazil: primaruy |
| 23:09.24 | alpha1_ | KDE... GNOME.. and Fluxbox |
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| 23:09.26 | zood_ | thingfish, ah thanks |
| 23:09.43 | pete__ | hey guys, after a package leaves incoming, but before it hits the mirrors.. where can I find it? |
| 23:09.44 | bbrazil | bulio: that's fine then. You can probably also save a small bit of time by not deleting your swap partition |
| 23:09.55 | bulio | ok |
| 23:10.03 | bulio | so is there a guide to doing a net-install? |
| 23:10.03 | thingfish | zood_: then of course you could get source and use make-kpkg to build a kernel .deb. |
| 23:10.18 | bbrazil | bulio: I think the net install guide is pretty much download, burn to cd, boot from CD. For more seen the Debian Install Guide |
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| 23:10.29 | zood_ | thingfish, yah, I think that might be more trouble with no internet conn |
| 23:10.29 | alpha1_ | just download the net installer and at the debian prompt enter.... linux26 |
| 23:10.35 | bulio | bbrazil: can I take the install CD out? |
| 23:10.37 | alpha1_ | that will give you the 2.6 kernel |
| 23:10.47 | alpha1_ | its about a 3 hour install |
| 23:10.48 | bbrazil | bulio: what do you mean? |
| 23:10.53 | bulio | because I have 2 CD-rom drives and I need to swap between them during install |
| 23:10.59 | alpha1_ | for everything |
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| 23:11.19 | bbrazil | bulio: I *think* you can take it out after the first reboot |
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| 23:11.54 | thingfish | it actually ejects the CD before reboot. |
| 23:12.08 | bulio | bbrazil: as long as it ejects before it goes for a detection |
| 23:12.09 | thingfish | after base install. |
| 23:12.36 | bbrazil | bulio: for ide cdroms it doesn't matter as long as they're on the same bus and have the same mater/slave status |
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| 23:13.12 | bbrazil | bulio: even if it breaks, the fix is a quick change to /etc/fstab |
| 23:13.14 | bulio | 5 different distros failed to mount my CD because I couldn't switch drives before installing packages off the CD |
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| 23:14.30 | alpha1_ | use DVD or net installer.. its way better in my humble opinion |
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| 23:14.58 | alpha1_ | then when you have installed.. use the gnome synatpic package installer |
| 23:15.11 | bulio | theres no net install guide? |
| 23:15.18 | alpha1_ | that will open up the entire world of debian to you |
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| 23:15.41 | alpha1_ | check the debian site on that one |
| 23:15.47 | thingfish | bulio: really there's nothing to it. are you worrying about something in particular? |
| 23:15.48 | alpha1_ | there must be some documentation there on it |
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| 23:15.57 | bulio | also, I want to use KDE, no problems? |
| 23:16.04 | alpha1_ | I wouldnt mind learning what switches are available at the debian prompt actually |
| 23:16.15 | alpha1_ | on the full install I got gnome.. and kde |
| 23:16.21 | bulio | ok |
| 23:16.29 | bulio | so do net install, then apt-get install kde? |
| 23:16.31 | alpha1_ | but I checked off all 6 sections of the install |
| 23:16.42 | rares000 | every time I boot my wireless sows up as either eth1 or eth2 never the same i tried adding them in /etc/modules to fix the order but that didn't work |
| 23:16.54 | alpha1_ | apt-get from the prompt after or synaptic package handler |
| 23:16.55 | zood_ | bulio, apt-get install x-window-system, also |
| 23:17.06 | bulio | and configure X |
| 23:17.07 | alpha1_ | yeah dont go the x-window install route |
| 23:17.13 | thingfish | bulio: you can do it that way, yes. |
| 23:17.13 | alpha1_ | I tried that |
| 23:17.17 | bulio | don't go? |
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| 23:17.22 | alpha1_ | it works but its way better if you do the full install |
| 23:17.33 | bulio | so just download the full install?> |
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| 23:17.56 | alpha1_ | after the net installer goes through preliminary installation setup |
| 23:18.02 | alpha1_ | it will give you an option of 6 checkboxes |
| 23:18.06 | zood_ | alpha1, do you mean the tasksel method? |
| 23:18.07 | alpha1_ | desktop.. server etc etc |
| 23:18.19 | alpha1_ | not sure what tasksel is... |
| 23:18.28 | alpha1_ | Im still kinda newbie on debian |
| 23:18.51 | bulio | so burn net install CD |
| 23:19.04 | zood_ | bulio, or even floppy |
| 23:19.05 | thingfish | it's easier for some folks to use base-config's handy install option list. |
| 23:19.22 | alpha1_ | well you can use aptitude as well to install packages |
| 23:19.42 | alpha1_ | but for someone who doesnt know debian packages... I think its better to just see whats out there |
| 23:19.51 | thingfish | then boot to it. you'll probably want the 2.6 kernel, so at the first prompt type linux26 and hit enter. the installation will then start. |
| 23:19.57 | alpha1_ | trust me debian is better than suse yast |
| 23:20.10 | alpha1_ | I tried suse yast install of the suses cd.. this is way better |
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| 23:21.01 | bulio | Only reason I wanna switch to debian is because slack takes me a few hours to get things installed |
| 23:21.15 | bulio | I miss apt from ubuntu, so I'm going to debian :P |
| 23:21.16 | alpha1_ | slackware is the one distro I never tried out yet |
| 23:21.28 | alpha1_ | ubuntu is built on debian I am pretty sure |
| 23:21.30 | alpha1_ | isnt it? |
| 23:21.33 | bulio | yeah |
| 23:21.41 | alpha1_ | I know knoppix is |
| 23:21.44 | bulio | but I like the speed of slack compared to ubuntu |
| 23:21.49 | thingfish | bulio: if you can handle installing ubuntu, you can handle installing Debian. |
| 23:22.00 | bulio | I've installed arch, ubuntu and slack |
| 23:22.04 | alpha1_ | lol.. so just get an ATA drive then |
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| 23:22.21 | alpha1_ | and use fluxbox |
| 23:22.49 | thingfish | then it should be a piece of cake for you, bulio. |
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| 23:23.09 | bulio | ok |
| 23:23.16 | bulio | downloading the net install now |
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| 23:24.12 | alpha1_ | the main thing to NOT forget with the net install |
| 23:24.21 | alpha1_ | MAKE SURE YOU ENTER ....LINUX26 |
| 23:24.26 | bulio | all caps? |
| 23:24.28 | alpha1_ | at the prompt to get the lastest kernel |
| 23:24.32 | alpha1_ | emphasis... |
| 23:24.35 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:24.36 | bulio | oh |
| 23:24.39 | thingfish | no |
| 23:24.43 | bulio | so linux26 |
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| 23:25.10 | thingfish | yes, right at the prompt you get when it first boots to the CD. |
| 23:25.18 | mango | hi every one, help please, I have wiped out my hdd using cfdisk than format it by mistake. I know it was stupid from my part. The question is there any way to recover the data I had on it...please help I am very disperate....The previouse partition was ext3 and the new one is also ext3. thanks fold |
| 23:25.56 | tARGETpRACTICE | mango, I don't think there's any way, but you might be able to find programs on the internet for such problems |
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| 23:26.19 | abrotman | mango: you fdisked it .. and formatted it? |
| 23:26.30 | thingfish | mango: I believe professional disaster recovery services can do that sort of thing. But it costs big $$$. |
| 23:26.32 | abrotman | mango: you could pay lots of money to people to recover it for you |
| 23:26.48 | tARGETpRACTICE | I wouldn't trust me on this, but I'd say you'd probably have to install some sort of OS and find a recovery program, but I'm not sure it'd be cheap or easy |
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| 23:27.47 | abrotman | !undelete |
| 23:27.47 | dpkg | i heard undelete is great with Midnight Commander (mc). Just unmount the fs and select "Undelete files" in mc, or doesn't work for journalled filesystems; that's the point of journalling, after all |
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| 23:27.54 | abrotman | haha .. that won't work :) |
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| 23:28.06 | ricochet | can someone point me to some documentation that talks about using procmail to deliver messages to a destination that uses the Maildir format? |
| 23:28.21 | abrotman | ricochet: i think there's a #procmail |
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| 23:28.32 | tARGETpRACTICE | I've been trying to get Debian running on my computer for about two days now, just trying to break off a partition to use for it |
| 23:28.43 | tARGETpRACTICE | now I'm almost there, but I'm getting an error when I try to boot the installer |
| 23:28.44 | mango | he guys , I don't have that kind of money , beside I am sure that one of you can help. What i did was : formating deleting all partitions with cfdisk then did a fresh install , but only the base ...help please |
| 23:28.57 | ricochet | abrotman, yep. I haven't got an answer in a few hours (only 9 people in channel) |
| 23:29.08 | tARGETpRACTICE | it starts loading files, but then says it can't find some specific file |
| 23:29.16 | tsk_ | can I prevent the "apt-get dist-upgrade" to update the manpages-dev package? |
| 23:29.18 | abrotman | ricochet: you did google "procmail Maildir" .. right? |
| 23:29.18 | tARGETpRACTICE | I think it's something to do with the error I get when I try to burn it with Nero |
| 23:29.26 | tARGETpRACTICE | hold on a sec, and I'll get the error message |
| 23:29.28 | abrotman | tsk_: /msg dpkg hold |
| 23:29.36 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: nero is NOT in debian |
| 23:29.50 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: and do NOT burn at higher than 16x |
| 23:29.52 | ricochet | abrotman: of course :) I've been searching the last few hours.. and its starting to seem odd that there isn't something |
| 23:30.14 | tsk_ | abrotman, thanks dude |
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| 23:30.27 | abrotman | ricochet: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/procmail-maildir.html ? |
| 23:30.40 | tARGETpRACTICE | I know it's not in debian |
| 23:30.47 | tARGETpRACTICE | I downloaded it and burnt in from Nero in Windows |
| 23:30.56 | tARGETpRACTICE | here's the error |
| 23:30.57 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: what speed did you burn the ISO ? |
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| 23:31.30 | bulio | ok, so debian net install is simple? |
| 23:31.33 | tARGETpRACTICE | *Sigh* Nero spazzed... |
| 23:31.37 | tARGETpRACTICE | hold on a sec... |
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| 23:32.00 | daeos | which driver would be used for an intel chipset when installing debian |
| 23:32.09 | abrotman | chipset for WHAT? |
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| 23:32.28 | tARGETpRACTICE | the entered block size does not correspond to the image length. |
| 23:32.30 | bulio | I'll be back if I need any help |
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| 23:32.42 | tARGETpRACTICE | ...there's more, but I can't go back for it without reopenning repeatedly |
| 23:32.44 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: did you check the md5sum of the image? |
| 23:32.53 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: and what speed did you burn at? |
| 23:32.55 | aliesky | holle to everybody |
| 23:33.00 | tARGETpRACTICE | no, I should go hunt that down... |
| 23:33.07 | tARGETpRACTICE | what program do I need to check it? |
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| 23:33.19 | aliesky | how can I enable SMTP Authentication in Squirrelmail? |
| 23:33.21 | abrotman | !win32 md5sum |
| 23:33.21 | dpkg | win32 md5sum is probably http://downloads.activestate.com/contrib/md5sum/Windows/ |
| 23:33.31 | grendal_prime | suse what a whacky ass distro that is |
| 23:33.43 | abrotman | dpkg: feed me |
| 23:33.47 | abrotman | bastard! |
| 23:34.01 | ricochet | abrotman: yeah.. I was looking for a little more discussion than that page provided... namely, I'd like to know if the message is changed at all, and if I just copy it to $HOME/Maildir/.inbox or something.. its just not very clear |
| 23:34.20 | abrotman | ricochet: changed? |
| 23:34.23 | aliesky | how can I enable SMTP Authentication in Squirrelmail? |
| 23:34.33 | abrotman | aliesky: don't repeat |
| 23:34.47 | tARGETpRACTICE | wait, what? o_o check it how? |
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| 23:34.58 | abrotman | aliesky: try #squirrelmail ? |
| 23:35.02 | aliesky | abrotman: srry |
| 23:35.03 | tARGETpRACTICE | I've never bothered to use the check sum thing on anything, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with it >_> |
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| 23:35.16 | aliesky | in #squirrelmail nobody want talk |
| 23:35.21 | abrotman | !tell tARGETpRACTICE about win32 md5sum |
| 23:35.24 | ricochet | abrotman, like... by default is the message just dumped in said-directory in mbox format? or is it saved in some kind of Maildir(++) format |
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| 23:35.39 | abrotman | ricochet: nope ... just the message |
| 23:35.50 | abrotman | ricochet: usually a weird filename .. but that's it |
| 23:36.10 | tARGETpRACTICE | I got the sum file thing, but it's just a bunch of jumbled numbers and letters... |
| 23:36.29 | tARGETpRACTICE | I figure that's how it's supposed to be, but where's this win32 thing you speak of? |
| 23:36.29 | abrotman | that's the md5sum |
| 23:36.37 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: dpkg told you |
| 23:36.40 | tARGETpRACTICE | do I need to download it from somewhere? |
| 23:36.43 | abrotman | !win32 md5sum |
| 23:36.43 | dpkg | well, win32 md5sum is http://downloads.activestate.com/contrib/md5sum/Windows/ |
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| 23:37.46 | ricochet | abrotman: so there is nothing different about it.. hm. and maildir-compatible MUAs take the mail out of $HOME/Maildir/weirdfile.foo and move it to something like $HOME/Maildir/.inbox/weirdfile.f00? |
| 23:38.00 | abrotman | they do? |
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| 23:38.05 | tARGETpRACTICE | oookay, now that I've got that thing, it just opens and disappears >_> |
| 23:38.20 | tahpot | I can't install sun's java jdk for the life of me, everytime i run fakeroot i refceive "no matching plugin was found" |
| 23:38.30 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: you have to run it from a command prompt on the ISO you downloaded |
| 23:38.37 | tahpot | i have tried: jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin and java_ee_sdk-5_0-beta-linux.bin |
| 23:38.42 | abrotman | tahpot: sarge and jdk1.5 ? |
| 23:38.44 | ricochet | abrotman: no, I'm asking... I dont understand what happens to the message after procmail dumps it in ~/Maildir |
| 23:39.09 | abrotman | ricochet: i don't know the specfics .. but it usually goes in the ~/Maildir/new/ |
| 23:39.42 | abrotman | tahpot: you may need to grab the java-package from etch .. and then the appropriate associated package it will ask for also from etch |
| 23:40.37 | tahpot | abrotman: ok i'll try taht |
| 23:40.51 | ricochet | abrotman: oh yeah, that sounds familiar. Ok, so how does procmail know to put it in ~/Maildir/new? According to that linuxmafia page, - "DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/" and it isnt clear to me how procmail knows to save it to ./new |
| 23:40.59 | tahpot | abrotman: hm... i already have java-package |
| 23:41.06 | abrotman | tahpot: yes .. but you're on sarge? |
| 23:41.20 | tahpot | abrotman: i think so yes |
| 23:41.23 | abrotman | ricochet: i've never used procmail ... i would assume it's just smart like that |
| 23:41.33 | abrotman | tahpot: right .. so use packages.debian.org ... get the java-package from etch |
| 23:41.58 | abrotman | tahpot: http://debian.crosslink.net/debian/pool/contrib/j/java-package/java-package_0.27_all.deb |
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| 23:42.12 | ricochet | abrotman: just because the directory is named Maildir? that seems like annoying automation |
| 23:42.18 | tahpot | abrotman: sorry, what does it mean to get from etch? |
| 23:42.29 | abrotman | tahpot: use that URL .. install that package .. try again |
| 23:42.44 | abrotman | ricochet: lots of things happen automagically .. but like i said .. i've never used procmail .. |
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| 23:42.59 | leaveone_ | does anyone know how to fix the clock settings in fluxbox.. it is giving me the wrong time (always does on boot up).. any ideas on how to fix this |
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| 23:43.45 | abrotman | !ntp |
| 23:43.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 23:43.46 | Stevie-O | At the sound of the ping the time will be Mon Apr 10 19:43:46 2006 *ping* |
| 23:43.54 | abrotman | you lie! |
| 23:44.03 | abrotman | Stevie-O: you forgot the timezone |
| 23:44.04 | trey_ | abrotman: I am on the "Configuring xserver-xfree86" stepp of the configuration. I have an intel graphics card. what do i select? |
| 23:44.11 | abrotman | i810 |
| 23:44.12 | ricochet | abrotman: hm. I suppose thats nice to use, just ups the learning curve a bit. thanks for helping |
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| 23:44.29 | leaveone_ | ok thanks ill try that |
| 23:44.30 | abrotman | ricochet: sadly .. the real answer is "wait for those in #procmail to answer you" :) |
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| 23:46.40 | abrotman | manoj makes the most confusing graphs :) |
| 23:46.48 | Ethiainen | heyas all |
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| 23:47.05 | tahpot | abrotman: thanks for you help! that solved the prob :) |
| 23:47.12 | abrotman | tahpot: yay! |
| 23:47.21 | moshii | Is it possible to have swap as a file? I need a little bit for my router over nfs ... |
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| 23:47.54 | Hagfish | anyone said what i need to do to get domain name lookups to work? ping, firefox, that sort of thing |
| 23:47.58 | ricochet | abrotman: someone in #sendmail sent me a link - just FYI: "To deliver to a mailbox that is in maildir format, you need to append a forward slash (/) to the mailbox name." |
| 23:48.08 | leaveone_ | that worked well.. awesome |
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| 23:48.15 | abrotman | moshii: man mkswap ? |
| 23:48.35 | abrotman | ricochet: oh .. sorry .. i could have told you that .. that's pretty standard with Maildir |
| 23:48.39 | moshii | abrotman: ah, cheers :) |
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| 23:49.28 | ricochet | abrotman: ah, npo. I'm just a total newb at this stuff. mbox has seemed to work for awhile for me. |
| 23:49.45 | abrotman | ricochet: mbox is nice .. when you have 12 emails :) |
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| 23:50.03 | ricochet | abrotman: as I discovered :) |
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| 23:50.22 | obscuresoul | i'm using sarge and i've installed backported packages for php5 and mysql...so i need to know if it's safe to install the phpmyadmin packages from the sarge's repositories? |
| 23:50.32 | abrotman | obscuresoul: maybe .. try it :) |
| 23:50.50 | obscuresoul | abrotman: ok :) tks |
| 23:51.03 | ricochet | abrotman: is it pretty standard to just use mb2mh to convert mailboxes? |
| 23:51.20 | abrotman | ricochet: i believe so ... |
| 23:51.39 | tARGETpRACTICE | okay, I had to go for a sec, but I'm back |
| 23:51.43 | d03boy | is anyone famliiar with a bug when upgrading to kernel 2.6.15 (from 2.6.11) and the sound gets distorted? I've got an intel8x0 (or AC'97 audio chip) |
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| 23:52.03 | tARGETpRACTICE | now, then, how am I supposed to use that sum thing with command prompt? I'm horrible with that thing >_> |
| 23:52.41 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: i told you .. use it at the command line on the ISO you downloaded |
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| 23:53.37 | leaveone_ | can anybody in here help me set up my fonts for xchat? i cant really see what im typing.. especially in fluxbox when i use transparency |
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| 23:55.17 | azeem | prepare to be modularized |
| 23:55.22 | gravity | heh |
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| 23:55.45 | ironclaw | this may be silly, but is there a reason that all of the apt repositories are down? |
| 23:55.52 | abrotman | they aren't all down |
| 23:55.59 | abrotman | gravity: is it starting to creep into sid? |
| 23:56.03 | azeem | gravity: do you highlight on `modular'? |
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| 23:56.08 | gravity | It's all going in at once |
| 23:56.12 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 23:56.13 | gravity | azeem: No :-) |
| 23:56.22 | gravity | So I'll probably break just about everything for a few days |
| 23:56.37 | ironclaw | hmm, ok, I know I tried a good 10 or so and none of them worked |
| 23:56.49 | frucks | is it possible to install debian without a cdrom? |
| 23:56.54 | ironclaw | sure |
| 23:57.04 | ironclaw | it's easier without a cdrom |
| 23:57.25 | ceplma | ironclaw: me too |
| 23:57.29 | frucks | ironclaw, sweet, ist there a howto, or sumtin you could point me too? |
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| 23:57.37 | abrotman | ironclaw: does your internet work .. at all? |
| 23:57.44 | ironclaw | sure, I'm on here |
| 23:57.44 | ceplma | sorry, my network card was down, and now ftp.us.debian.org works like a charm |
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| 23:58.10 | loke | anyone know of a good app to translate a .doc file from english to italian? |
| 23:58.24 | frucks | i have ubuntu on a four gig part and a blank four gig part i want to put debian on |
| 23:58.26 | ceplma | loke: babelfish.altavista.com? |
| 23:58.39 | abrotman | !d-i frucks |
| 23:58.39 | dpkg | frucks, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:58.41 | loke | ceplma babel fish will do the entire doc? |
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| 23:58.46 | xomhau | hji * |
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| 23:58.55 | xomhau | how to use multi sound card? |
| 23:59.02 | frucks | i'm on the internet right now tru ubuntu |
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| 23:59.23 | ceplma | loke: it can do webpage, so if you upload the document to the web, babelfish can do it |
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| 23:59.35 | Scony | Hey I just tried installing Debian 3.1 and got the following error, [ Warning *** Bad md5sum ] ?? |
| 23:59.37 | loke | ceplma cool |