| 00:00.32 | jbroome | Scony: bad burn? |
| 00:00.56 | abrotman | don't burn the ISO at more than 16x |
| 00:01.22 | Scony | I get the same error with Ubuntu but then again I didnt burn it |
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| 00:02.09 | loke | Scony md5 check your iso |
| 00:02.21 | loke | Scony could be a bad download |
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| 00:02.34 | strefli3 | hello |
| 00:02.44 | loke | strefli3 sup |
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| 00:03.11 | strefli3 | loke enjoying the nice weather (michigan) |
| 00:04.05 | loke | strefli3 damn, we have had rain now for a month straight in san francisco, ca |
| 00:04.12 | strefli3 | hey guys, I am trying to remember this command, it is more of a tool, to make any program verbose, any ideas? |
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| 00:04.34 | strefli3 | loke terrible, better then snow though! |
| 00:04.41 | loke | strefli3 true |
| 00:04.41 | vhillier | strefli3: strace? |
| 00:05.00 | loke | strefli3 gdb? |
| 00:05.13 | strefli3 | vhillier YES, thanks |
| 00:05.21 | vhillier | np |
| 00:05.54 | Corridor | help please i can t install un netgear wg511v2 "made in china" driver 64bits help |
| 00:06.08 | abrotman | strefli3: strace ? -v ? |
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| 00:06.24 | GaiaX11 | How can I play midi in debian. When i try to do that whit playmidi it says that I don't have /dev/sequencer. So, where do I get that? |
| 00:06.42 | abrotman | !midi |
| 00:06.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, midi is MUSICAL INSTRUMENT DIGITAL INTERFACE, or timidity to play. smurf to edit, or http://www.midi-howto.com |
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| 00:09.44 | bulio | just did net install :D |
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| 00:09.57 | bulio | now how do I install KDE and X.org? |
| 00:09.58 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:09.58 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 00:10.07 | abrotman | !tell bulio about install kde |
| 00:10.08 | bulio | apt-get moo |
| 00:10.11 | abrotman | !tell bulio about setup x |
| 00:10.26 | ironclaw | apparently I didn't try doing ftp or web access from my firewall after setting it up |
| 00:10.42 | bulio | debian 3 thats sid right? |
| 00:11.30 | tARGETpRACTICE | okay, I can't for the life of me figure out that md5sum, I even googled it, but I can't get command prompt to go to the location, so I can't get it to work... |
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| 00:11.32 | tARGETpRACTICE | I forgot how to work command prompt long ago... |
| 00:11.32 | bulio | debian-31r1a-i386-netinst |
| 00:11.32 | bulio | what version of debian is that? |
| 00:11.33 | abrotman | bulio: no |
| 00:11.33 | abrotman | bulio: that's sarge |
| 00:11.37 | bulio | ok |
| 00:13.44 | frucks | hello |
| 00:13.53 | frucks | fuck, fruzeup |
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| 00:15.04 | curt | ... |
| 00:15.19 | curt | test |
| 00:15.29 | errno_signal | it works |
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| 00:15.33 | curt | thanks |
| 00:15.37 | abrotman | curt: you're clearly broken |
| 00:15.43 | curt | dpkg broke? |
| 00:15.43 | dpkg | hmm... broke is what you are when you are out of cash, or you're probably looking for "break" |
| 00:15.49 | curt | haha |
| 00:15.54 | errno_signal | HA |
| 00:16.01 | curt | abrotman, my evolution is though ... again |
| 00:16.12 | abrotman | curt: didn't i tell you how last week? |
| 00:16.24 | curt | yes gslice does work anymore |
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| 00:16.39 | abrotman | on sid or etch? |
| 00:16.43 | curt | etch |
| 00:16.56 | curt | last three lines of strace |
| 00:17.11 | curt | someone else say something |
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| 00:17.15 | curt | unlink("/tmp/orbit-curt/linc-3c92-0-1a9426a611e93") = 0 |
| 00:17.15 | curt | close(12) = 0 |
| 00:17.15 | curt | exit_group(0) = ? |
| 00:17.28 | curt | just bam, close |
| 00:17.32 | errno_signal | does the repo differentiate b/w bug-fix updates, and feature-updates? |
| 00:17.52 | errno_signal | let's say I wanted to only update if packages were borked, as I'm quite happy with the software that I'm using so far |
| 00:18.07 | abrotman | errno_signal: nope |
| 00:18.10 | errno_signal | abrotman: :( |
| 00:18.20 | errno_signal | ah, guess I'll wait until unstable becomes testing |
| 00:18.28 | curt | haha |
| 00:18.36 | errno_signal | thought I'd ask anyway :) |
| 00:18.44 | abrotman | errno_signal: it doesn't |
| 00:18.55 | curt | it'ld be cool if etch ws table... |
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| 00:19.01 | abrotman | unstable never becomes testing .. it just stays unstable .. |
| 00:19.14 | errno_signal | semantics |
| 00:19.24 | abrotman | uh .. right |
| 00:19.47 | errno_signal | ;) |
| 00:20.08 | errno_signal | abrotman: are you on neowin? |
| 00:20.14 | errno_signal | your alias looks familiar |
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| 00:20.39 | bulio|lap | dpkg --force -depends -P xserver-xfree86 isn't working |
| 00:20.45 | EstborrerEIE | Hello everyone. I need some help with my usb mass storage, when i try to mount it, i get... wrong fs type. Thanks |
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| 00:21.11 | bulio|lap | I really have to use that to install X? |
| 00:21.43 | bulio|lap | anyone? |
| 00:21.44 | abrotman | errno_signal: wtf is neowin ? |
| 00:21.50 | tARGETpRACTICE | I hate to say it, but that checksum has me stumped, could you explain it in a bit more detail again? |
| 00:21.51 | errno_signal | abrotman: guess not ;) |
| 00:21.56 | abrotman | errno_signal: i have two brothers who are geeky .. could be them |
| 00:22.06 | abrotman | !tell EstborrerEIE about vfatrw |
| 00:22.11 | curt | abrotman, really too busy at work to dig into evolution right now, i'll have to wait for the maintainer to update it. btw this one is kinda cool 64.182.251.218 (my work) |
| 00:22.29 | bulio|lap | I just did apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect |
| 00:22.32 | bulio|lap | now what? |
| 00:22.40 | abrotman | curt: the animated gif .. could use a bit of an upgrade |
| 00:22.45 | errno_signal | curt: what do you do there? |
| 00:22.55 | errno_signal | website maintenance? |
| 00:22.59 | bulio|lap | anyone? |
| 00:23.00 | curt | abrotman, i run it |
| 00:23.14 | abrotman | curt: it's a bit pixelated |
| 00:23.14 | curt | errno_signal, it's my place |
| 00:23.15 | abrotman | IMO anyways |
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| 00:23.23 | errno_signal | curt: that header background is gawdy :o |
| 00:23.35 | tARGETpRACTICE | anyone? a bit of help on how the heck to check sum the download? >_> I got the .exe and the md5sum files I need, I just can't figure out how to use them... |
| 00:23.37 | curt | abrotman, there are so many images it's hard to keep the size down |
| 00:23.56 | abrotman | i guess |
| 00:23.58 | errno_signal | curt: everything else looks nice |
| 00:24.00 | abrotman | i don't mind the header image |
| 00:24.11 | abrotman | except the "Quick Find" is kind of hard to read |
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| 00:24.19 | errno_signal | yup |
| 00:24.31 | curt | errno_signal, thanks, i need to add a few thing tonight so I can change the dns |
| 00:24.38 | abrotman | curt: the florist is yours .. or the web company ? |
| 00:24.41 | curt | so off to get it done. |
| 00:24.48 | curt | abrotman, both |
| 00:24.57 | bulio|lap | can anyone here help me install Xfree86 on sarge? |
| 00:24.58 | errno_signal | curt: take it easy |
| 00:25.11 | abrotman | bulio|lap: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 00:25.25 | bulio|lap | thats it? |
| 00:25.34 | abrotman | why? |
| 00:25.36 | abrotman | oh . .nm |
| 00:25.40 | bulio|lap | doing that now |
| 00:25.44 | abrotman | gravity: there won't be a metapackage .. to install them all? |
| 00:25.49 | curt | abrotman, I rent the box and run a few other sites from it along with this one, the 'florist' is my day job :) |
| 00:26.05 | gravity | abrotman: No, it'll be named "xorg" |
| 00:26.11 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. that's easier :) |
| 00:26.14 | gravity | Yeah |
| 00:26.17 | errno_signal | curt: you only sell seeds, yeah? |
| 00:26.23 | abrotman | seeds? |
| 00:26.27 | curt | abrotman, well ot and I got work to do, if you see whomever maintains evo, kick em for me ;) |
| 00:26.38 | bulio|lap | what do I do when apt-get install x-window-system is done? |
| 00:26.38 | errno_signal | abrotman: some really exotic ones |
| 00:26.44 | errno_signal | abrotman: i don't think he'll display them all |
| 00:26.45 | abrotman | !maint evolution |
| 00:26.51 | dpkg | evolution: Debian Evolution Maintainers <pkg-evolution-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
| 00:26.53 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:26.54 | abrotman | nice |
| 00:27.01 | abrotman | curt: mine works today btw |
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| 00:27.08 | hedpe | what is a .so file? |
| 00:27.14 | errorlevel | Is anybody here running pure-ftpd-ldap? |
| 00:27.19 | abrotman | shared object |
| 00:27.25 | errno_signal | ^ |
| 00:27.42 | curt | abrotman, ya i thought so, firefox dislikes right clicks too, closes everytime... |
| 00:27.43 | abrotman | !ask |
| 00:27.43 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 00:27.55 | errno_signal | god, i only just found out about emacs-keys for irssi linebuffer editing |
| 00:27.56 | errno_signal | so useful |
| 00:27.57 | abrotman | curt: oh .. i can test that if you want |
| 00:28.12 | curt | abrotman, I have a stable install at work i use :) |
| 00:28.13 | abrotman | curt: nope .. works here :) |
| 00:28.24 | bulio|lap | Configuring Xserver now :P |
| 00:28.28 | abrotman | errorlevel: yes |
| 00:28.29 | alpha1_ | hey I have a question about firefox on debian... how do I upgrade to firefox 1.5??? |
| 00:28.33 | hedpe | i have a kernel module, that is QoS networking support, it creates .o files which are the modules, and then it creates a .so which needs to be loaded or something so that "tc" will recognize my qdisc... however, it copies a .so file to /usr/lib, but when i try to add the qdisc it says that the qdisc doesn't exist... i'm assuming my .so is not being loaded, how do i load it? |
| 00:28.44 | alpha1_ | I havent been able to get it installed right |
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| 00:29.09 | curt | abrotman, maybe if I get some time this weekend, i'll dig into them further, see ya. |
| 00:29.12 | abrotman | alpha1_: from what i understand about 1.5 .. you're better off staying with 1.0.7 |
| 00:29.18 | abrotman | curt: have fun |
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| 00:29.39 | jshriver | hi... curious why would my v4l2 device map to /dev/video0 instead of /dev/video? |
| 00:29.45 | alpha1_ | I got it loading okay so 1.5 runs if I click on the terminal script.. but it wont install and upgrade |
| 00:30.24 | bulio|lap | ok xfree is done |
| 00:30.26 | alpha1_ | weird |
| 00:30.26 | bulio|lap | now what> |
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| 00:30.37 | abrotman | bulio|lap: you tell us .. what else do you want? |
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| 00:30.55 | bulio|lap | to install kde, then configure Xfree86 to load kde when I hit startx |
| 00:31.06 | errorlevel | Anyhow, does anybody have any experience with pure-ftpd-ldap with Sarge? (Yes, abrotman, that is as specific as I can get. Unless you want me to say "I can't make it work.") |
| 00:31.13 | bulio|lap | apt-get install kde |
| 00:31.41 | Kinks | errorlevel: if all you have is "I can't make it work" then no one is going to be able to help you in the first place. |
| 00:31.42 | alpha1_ | I still say gnome runs smoother than kde.. but kde has more options for use |
| 00:31.48 | bulio|lap | then what? |
| 00:31.52 | alpha1_ | than gnome |
| 00:32.03 | alpha1_ | kde is more about integration |
| 00:32.15 | js_ | kde runs smoother för me |
| 00:32.23 | pagey | same |
| 00:32.27 | errorlevel | Kinks: Well, if someone has experience with the package, then perhaps they could ask me some questions that they think might help in my troubleshooting. |
| 00:32.28 | alpha1_ | well depends what you mean by smoother |
| 00:32.38 | abrotman | errorlevel: and why can't you make it work? |
| 00:32.44 | pagey | easier for new usrs |
| 00:32.44 | abrotman | bulio|lap: apt-get install kde kdm |
| 00:32.51 | errorlevel | abrotman: I don't know. |
| 00:32.52 | Kinks | errorlevel: or you could help us by telling us what's not working and what you've done to try to fix it |
| 00:32.59 | abrotman | errorlevel: log files are useful :) |
| 00:33.18 | bulio|lap | <abrotman> can I do apt-get install kde after apt-get install kde? |
| 00:33.26 | errorlevel | abrotman: Yes. They are, but pure-ftpd doesn't seem to like to make many. |
| 00:33.28 | alpha1_ | I installed fluxbox also.. I would sure like to know how to get the icons workin on the desktop with that |
| 00:33.37 | jshriver | how do you setup udev in debian? |
| 00:33.46 | tARGETpRACTICE | can anyone help me with the md5sum? I've been trying to figure it out, but I can't figure that friggin thing out... |
| 00:33.55 | Kinks | alpha1_: apt-get install fbdesk |
| 00:34.04 | jshriver | tARGETpRACTICE, md5sum -c file.md5 |
| 00:34.04 | errorlevel | Kinks: I can't get LDAP users to log in. I've tried to fix it by reading the documentation. :) |
| 00:34.09 | alpha1_ | that will do it??? |
| 00:34.19 | alpha1_ | but I already installed fluxbox |
| 00:34.20 | Kinks | alpha1_: that and running it after you install it. |
| 00:34.21 | abrotman | jshriver: he means on windows |
| 00:34.25 | jshriver | md5sum -v * > file.md5 will create file.md5 of every file in the current directory |
| 00:34.27 | Kinks | alpha1_: fbdesk isn't fluxbox. |
| 00:34.28 | jshriver | oh |
| 00:34.32 | alpha1_ | ohhh okay |
| 00:34.33 | alpha1_ | cool |
| 00:34.37 | alpha1_ | thanks I will try that |
| 00:34.42 | alpha1_ | thanks |
| 00:34.43 | tARGETpRACTICE | yeah, sorry, should have been more specific |
| 00:34.47 | Ethiainen | what are ppl runing on desktop/laptop Etch or sid ? |
| 00:34.47 | pagey007 | jshriver: update to etch |
| 00:34.51 | abrotman | bulio|lap: but it would already be installed |
| 00:35.08 | EstborrerEIE | Any answers for this?: |
| 00:35.09 | bulio|lap | <abrotman: can I do apt-get install kde after apt-get install kde? |
| 00:35.12 | abrotman | pagey007: why would he do that? |
| 00:35.12 | EstborrerEIE | Gurthang:/home/esteban# dmesg | tail |
| 00:35.12 | EstborrerEIE | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 508378412 |
| 00:35.12 | EstborrerEIE | Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 508378405 |
| 00:35.12 | alpha1_ | ohhh yes I noticed with linux you have to be very specific...its not like windows |
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| 00:35.18 | jshriver | etch? |
| 00:35.20 | jshriver | how |
| 00:35.20 | abrotman | bulio|lap: that makes no sense |
| 00:35.24 | jshriver | !dpkg upgrade to etch |
| 00:35.28 | abrotman | jshriver: you have sarge installed? |
| 00:35.35 | jshriver | yeah.. stable think that's sarge |
| 00:35.39 | jshriver | been a pain in the ass lol |
| 00:35.46 | abrotman | jshriver: sarge has udev |
| 00:35.56 | pagey007 | lol |
| 00:35.57 | bulio|lap | abrotman: right now I'm doing apt-get install kde |
| 00:35.59 | jshriver | hrm.. I'm running whatever is on the stable DVD + net install |
| 00:36.05 | pagey007 | ok I say nothing |
| 00:36.10 | abrotman | bulio|lap: ok .. good plan |
| 00:36.19 | abrotman | jshriver: ok .. so apt-get install udev |
| 00:36.20 | alpha1_ | wow you guys are great in here... I feels like I am in linux heaven in here..lol |
| 00:36.22 | alpha1_ | :) |
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| 00:36.33 | abrotman | !whoppix |
| 00:36.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, whoppix is the old name for WHAX (http://www.iwhax.net), a stand alone penetration testing live cd based on SLAX based on Slackware |
| 00:36.42 | jshriver | alpha1_, huh? :) |
| 00:36.50 | jshriver | hrm udev is installed... |
| 00:37.08 | alpha1_ | lol.. yeah... its like lately its like pullin tooth and nails trying to get linux people to help me in my neighbourhood |
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| 00:37.39 | delire | anyone here use the repos at http://secure-testing.debian.net/? |
| 00:37.40 | alpha1_ | I need to join one of them newbie linux users groups |
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| 00:38.04 | jshriver | alpha1_, what do you need help with? |
| 00:38.12 | alpha1_ | since I came in here everybody has been helping me with all my questions.. |
| 00:38.14 | jshriver | can also google and see if there is a lug around you that can help as well |
| 00:38.14 | alpha1_ | this is great |
| 00:38.17 | bulio|lap | KDE is done installing |
| 00:38.18 | bulio|lap | what now? |
| 00:38.20 | jshriver | oh lol glad then |
| 00:38.23 | abrotman | bulio|lap: did you install kdm? |
| 00:38.41 | bulio|lap | doing apt-get install kdm now |
| 00:38.41 | alpha1_ | well shriver... lotsa stuff.. right now I geuss I am just trying to get samba working so I can talk to my windows box |
| 00:38.48 | tARGETpRACTICE | hell, I've found the command to put in command prompt, can anyone just tell me how to move between folders and such in file prompt |
| 00:38.55 | abrotman | alpha1_: you're in canada or elsewhere? |
| 00:38.56 | brandon__ | is there a better program for bit torrent then the one that comes with ubuntu? |
| 00:39.00 | alpha1_ | yep in toronto |
| 00:39.03 | abrotman | brandon__: ask #ubuntu |
| 00:39.13 | abrotman | alpha1_: i'm sure there's a LUG in toronto |
| 00:39.13 | alpha1_ | there is a linux cafe here |
| 00:39.22 | pagey007 | yes replace ubunto |
| 00:39.22 | alpha1_ | yeah I been to the TORLUG group here |
| 00:39.51 | alpha1_ | but its mostly highend engineers and old time linux users.. its really great dont get me wrong.. I learn everytime I go there.. but I need more handson stuff newbie orientation |
| 00:40.01 | alpha1_ | like linux 101 |
| 00:40.04 | alpha1_ | bootcamp stuff |
| 00:40.12 | abrotman | alpha1_: http://www.linux.org/groups/canada/ |
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| 00:40.16 | alpha1_ | cool |
| 00:40.20 | alpha1_ | thanks |
| 00:40.36 | alpha1_ | Im using Xchat now... I used to use this ages ago |
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| 00:40.49 | EstborrerEIE | Im so sorry, i didnt wanted to be kicked |
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| 00:40.57 | EstborrerEIE | Excuse me please. |
| 00:41.09 | Kinks | EstborrerEIE: not flooding is a great way to prevent that. |
| 00:41.26 | delire | EstborrerEIE: we've all done it *once* ;) |
| 00:41.36 | SimonRaven | not pasting stuff here is one good way to prevent it |
| 00:41.36 | bulio|lap | slackware was deleted when I re-partitioned my root dir, right? |
| 00:41.45 | EstborrerEIE | Sorry |
| 00:41.49 | irish_assassin | not being a knucklehead is another... |
| 00:41.55 | alpha1_ | yeah thats a great link page. thank you.. bookmarked |
| 00:42.05 | EstborrerEIE | Well i did that because i tried what dpkg put |
| 00:42.10 | alpha1_ | lol... what qualifies as a nucklehead? |
| 00:42.13 | brandon__ | hey guys, i am on a laptop, i just install ubuntu breezy and did all the updates, but i run lspci and i cant find the videocard that is mine... is it that important to install drivers for the video card? |
| 00:42.19 | delire | EstborrerEIE: i did here around 6/7 years ago and i was kicked then too ;) |
| 00:42.21 | brandon__ | if there are not going to be any games or anything being played |
| 00:42.22 | gravity | brandon__: Ask in #ubuntu |
| 00:42.23 | delire | brandon__: ask in #ubuntu |
| 00:42.25 | abrotman | brandon__: go to #ubuntu |
| 00:42.33 | SimonRaven | #ubuntu |
| 00:42.35 | brandon__ | oh woops, i thought i was in a completely different chat |
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| 00:42.41 | alpha1_ | wow theres a ubuntu channel also??? |
| 00:42.42 | alpha1_ | cool |
| 00:42.45 | irish_assassin | yes....but do what gravity said... |
| 00:42.46 | alpha1_ | lol |
| 00:42.46 | EstborrerEIE | But i still get an error mounting my /dev/sda |
| 00:42.52 | abrotman | alpha1_: /list |
| 00:42.55 | gravity | omgnowaylol<3 |
| 00:42.55 | delire | alpha1_: very popular.. |
| 00:42.58 | EstborrerEIE | Haha, makes me feel better |
| 00:43.11 | alpha1_ | I tired out ubuntu.. for a laptop I dont think it would be too bad |
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| 00:43.31 | alpha1_ | they send you free install disc and live cd too |
| 00:43.34 | alpha1_ | so thats pretty good |
| 00:43.42 | alpha1_ | cant beat that for promotion |
| 00:43.49 | gravity | alpha1_: We know. We don't care. Go to #ubuntu if you want to talk about #ubuntu please. |
| 00:43.52 | cheal | alpha1_: please use your blog |
| 00:43.57 | alpha1_ | lol |
| 00:43.58 | bulio|lap | in kdm, default display manager kdm or xdm? |
| 00:44.01 | alpha1_ | k |
| 00:44.01 | EstborrerEIE | I get an error on dmesg |
| 00:44.06 | irish_assassin | oh jeeze |
| 00:44.14 | irish_assassin | you want xdm... |
| 00:44.16 | delire | EstborrerEIE: post it to http://pastebin.com |
| 00:44.23 | Kinks | bulio|lap: are you putting any effort into figuring out these things for yourself or just asking blindly? |
| 00:44.24 | alpha1_ | okay I got a tech question.. how do I get my USB cam workin in debian?? |
| 00:44.32 | gravity | bulio|lap: If you're using KDE, just use kdm |
| 00:44.34 | alpha1_ | how do I recognize it? |
| 00:44.38 | SimonRaven | bulio|lap: what do you think? |
| 00:44.47 | strefli3 | is there such a trick to have a single-threaded program run on more then one cpu at the same time? |
| 00:44.48 | EstborrerEIE | Ok thanks |
| 00:44.52 | gravity | bulio|lap: But feel free to try both and see what you like better |
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| 00:44.59 | pagey007 | alpha1_: install kanotix/debian |
| 00:45.00 | bulio|lap | slackware was deleted when I re-partitioned my root dir, right? |
| 00:45.10 | alpha1_ | k cool.. thanks |
| 00:45.12 | delire | alpha1_: depends what the chipset is. see whether it already is recognised with 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and plug it in. |
| 00:45.25 | bbrazil | strefli3: use a functional programming lanugage whose interpreter has such a feature? |
| 00:45.28 | bulio|lap | ok, now what? |
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| 00:45.33 | alpha1_ | Im running amd athelon.. |
| 00:45.34 | bulio|lap | I'm back at cmd line |
| 00:45.59 | resiak | Thanks to a damaged DVD, Totem hung on trying to read the disk. I've killed the process, leaving it as a zombie which appears to be trying desperately to read the DVD. What can I do, short of a restart, to stop the endless failure to read and eject the disk?+ |
| 00:46.07 | strefli3 | bbrazil, wish i had the source code... |
| 00:46.08 | abrotman | bulio|lap: /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
| 00:46.21 | SimonRaven | resiak: kill the parent |
| 00:46.29 | strefli3 | resiak kill -9 |
| 00:46.30 | abrotman | which is probably gnome-session :) |
| 00:46.35 | resiak | SimonRaven: init is the parent ;) |
| 00:46.36 | delire | resiak: try a 'unount -l' a lazy unmount or kill the parent process. |
| 00:46.44 | SimonRaven | strefli3: that is *not* going to work |
| 00:46.47 | delire | oops s/unount/umount |
| 00:46.48 | bbrazil | resiak: It's caught in the kernel. Should stop after 7 tries to read the damaged sectors |
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| 00:46.53 | SimonRaven | resiak: reboot |
| 00:47.11 | resiak | bbrazil: The same sounds have been made by the device about a hundred times :) |
| 00:47.19 | strefli3 | SimonRaven , not suprised, i have never had to deal with a cdrom, laptop doesn;t have one |
| 00:47.29 | abrotman | resiak: use a paperclip .. force the disc out :) |
| 00:47.30 | iter | strefli3: thinkpad x? |
| 00:47.32 | resiak | haha |
| 00:47.36 | delire | resiak: i've had luck with a lazy umount at times like this. |
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| 00:47.41 | SimonRaven | strefli3: won't work for the simple reason that's it's in state Z |
| 00:47.42 | bbrazil | resiak: It could be trying to read lots of sectors, dmesg should tell you. Reboot is probably the answer |
| 00:47.46 | strefli3 | iter superslim |
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| 00:47.55 | strefli3 | SimonRaven ah, thanks for the tip! |
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| 00:48.20 | resiak | Yes, dmesg is spewing crap, clearly. :-) Okay, I'll just resort to rebooting. Figured there should be a better way, but oh well. |
| 00:48.39 | bbrazil | resiak: also if there were a process doing that it'd be in state D iirc |
| 00:48.52 | SimonRaven | nope, not with 1 as the parent. probably got orphaned so init took over |
| 00:49.16 | bulio|lap | how do I start KDE from a reboot? |
| 00:49.19 | resiak | I issued pkill totem, so it's likely that SimonRaven is correct |
| 00:49.20 | bulio|lap | just type what you did? |
| 00:49.31 | jetscreamer | install kdm and it will 'just start' |
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| 00:49.36 | abrotman | resiak: did you kill the parent? or rather .. what is the parent? |
| 00:49.47 | bulio|lap | shoot, how do I carry over my old home Dir? |
| 00:49.53 | jetscreamer | or dpkg-reconfigure kdm if you have it but gdm or so is starting instead |
| 00:50.04 | bbrazil | bulio|lap: during install, select the partition as your home |
| 00:50.05 | resiak | abrotman: The parent is init ;) |
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| 00:50.09 | SimonRaven | bulio|lap: don't touch it during the installation |
| 00:50.10 | resiak | abrotman: I'm rebooting... whatever, basically. |
| 00:50.17 | bulio|lap | I didn't touch it |
| 00:50.37 | bulio|lap | also, I don't have the option to use 1078? x something |
| 00:50.38 | resiak | Hah, even through a reboot the drive was going apeshit. *powercycles* |
| 00:50.40 | bulio|lap | only 800X600 |
| 00:50.46 | SimonRaven | ...and what bbrazil said. |
| 00:51.14 | loke | sup jetscreamer |
| 00:51.14 | bbrazil | SimonRaven: eh, my advice contradicts yours |
| 00:51.31 | loke | jetscreamer ur an x expert? |
| 00:51.49 | SimonRaven | no. i meant it as "don't re-do the partitions or re-do the fs on the partition" |
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| 00:52.05 | bbrazil | ah right |
| 00:52.14 | bulio|lap | how do I get more display options> |
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| 00:52.17 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 00:52.21 | bbrazil | !drxx |
| 00:52.21 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 00:52.34 | SimonRaven | !drxx loke |
| 00:52.34 | dpkg | loke: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:52.49 | loke | SimonRaven ? |
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| 00:53.09 | loke | !? SimonRaven |
| 00:53.22 | loke | !what SimonRaven |
| 00:53.28 | loke | !beer SimonRaven |
| 00:53.31 | bulio|lap | can someone help me so I can change display? |
| 00:53.36 | SimonRaven | stop it |
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| 00:54.00 | Kinks | bulio|lap: make sure you're using the correct drivers for your video card for one. |
| 00:54.02 | loke | SimonRaven i was not asking about drxx |
| 00:54.09 | SimonRaven | bulio|lap, loke : ^^ read what the bot said |
| 00:54.10 | bulio|lap | Kinks: how do I do that? |
| 00:54.18 | bulio|lap | I'm so used to X.org |
| 00:54.20 | loke | SimonRaven i was speaking to jetscreamer |
| 00:54.32 | jpromerobx | Someone, has experience with Debian Instalation on PC with SATA hard disk ?? |
| 00:54.43 | Kinks | bulio|lap: in the x config did it ask you to select a video card driver? |
| 00:54.45 | pagey007 | yes |
| 00:54.49 | loke | jpromerobx yes |
| 00:54.54 | bulio|lap | I did X -configure |
| 00:55.04 | abrotman | bulio|lap: don't do that |
| 00:55.08 | SimonRaven | no... |
| 00:55.11 | abrotman | !tell bulio|lap about xmd5sum |
| 00:55.14 | jpromerobx | loke, you can help me ... |
| 00:55.19 | SimonRaven | !drxx bulio|lap |
| 00:55.19 | dpkg | bulio|lap: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:55.33 | loke | jpromerobx just explain your problem and you will be helped |
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| 00:56.20 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:56.21 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 00:56.48 | leikh | i've just done a dist-upgrade from sarge to testing, and now i can't log on through ssh... is it a pam-issue? |
| 00:56.54 | bulio1 | bulio@debox:~$ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:56.54 | bulio1 | bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 00:57.03 | Kinks | bulio1: make sure you're root.... |
| 00:57.03 | jpromerobx | loke, thank you. The problem consists in that Debian Instaler (Stable Version) don't recogonize the hard disk |
| 00:57.08 | SimonRaven | as root ... |
| 00:57.12 | SimonRaven | ffs read |
| 00:57.13 | abrotman | jpromerobx: which controller |
| 00:57.52 | tARGETpRACTICE | *sigh* I've definitely had better news... I figure it out, my sums don't match |
| 00:57.56 | tARGETpRACTICE | thanks for helping |
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| 00:58.09 | tARGETpRACTICE | now I get to download for 9 hours again -_- |
| 00:58.11 | bulio|lap | su doesn't come installed in debian net install? |
| 00:58.18 | bulio|lap | nvm |
| 00:58.20 | abrotman | yes it does |
| 00:58.20 | Kinks | bulio1: it does.. |
| 00:58.22 | jpromerobx | abrotman, I'm not sure about the controller, but is a Mother Board MSI RS482 |
| 00:58.38 | abrotman | !tell jpromerobx about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 00:58.46 | abrotman | jpromerobx: see if that works a bit better |
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| 00:59.15 | bulio|lap | vesa or vga> |
| 00:59.19 | jpromerobx | abrotman, well |
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| 00:59.44 | abrotman | bulio|lap: depends on your video card |
| 00:59.54 | bulio|lap | I have a 4MB agp |
| 01:00.04 | pagey007 | bulio|lap: vesa is safe |
| 01:00.25 | frucks | Ok, i have ubuntu on half my ten gig drive, and ubuntu already has half the drive witha 256 swap, so is it possible to load debian on the other half and share the same swap part? |
| 01:00.32 | frucks | sorry for wording that so redundantly |
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| 01:00.40 | abrotman | !d-i frucks |
| 01:00.40 | dpkg | frucks, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 01:00.52 | bulio|lap | what is my video card bus identifier? |
| 01:01.25 | unity | hello, does anyone know how a i can play m4a files? xmms-m4a does not exist, but there is a package to change m4a to ogg |
| 01:01.30 | unity | what should i do? |
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| 01:01.37 | abrotman | bulio|lap: leave it blank |
| 01:01.46 | pagey007 | bulio|lap: If you selected"vesa" you can leave it empty |
| 01:01.48 | unity | if i can avoid conversion, then that would be great |
| 01:01.48 | frucks | ok, thats what i've been doing for the last hour, i guess i havent read far enough or i missed something |
| 01:01.53 | Kinks | unity: there's an mp4 package that relies on non-stable packages |
| 01:02.25 | cheal | frucks: yes |
| 01:02.29 | unity | Kinks: i am using stable debian (sarge) how can i get that package and what are the dangers? |
| 01:03.02 | leikh | i'm cut off using port 21 as well.. |
| 01:03.10 | leikh | any ideas? |
| 01:03.16 | bulio|lap | how do I use my /home partition? |
| 01:03.28 | bulio|lap | I didnt delete it from my slack system |
| 01:03.48 | frucks | cheal, yes i havent read enough or yes i can share a swap part? |
| 01:03.49 | cheal | unity: m4a is just a container format |
| 01:03.57 | cheal | frucks: the latter |
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| 01:04.05 | frucks | cool |
| 01:04.15 | frucks | is it tricky |
| 01:04.16 | bulio|lap | also, I deleted my slack root partition and put a new one in |
| 01:04.17 | unity | cheal: what can i use to move the streams into like a mp3 or something? |
| 01:04.23 | bulio|lap | so that means slack is completely gone right? |
| 01:04.24 | delire | leikh: what does 'netstat -tupa' say? |
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| 01:04.41 | frucks | something i have to do a certain install or what? |
| 01:04.55 | delire | bulio|lap: if you deleted it, you deleted it. |
| 01:05.02 | EstborrerEIE | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:05.02 | EstborrerEIE | Buffer I/O error on device sda1 |
| 01:05.07 | bulio|lap | I delete root |
| 01:05.10 | bulio|lap | but left home |
| 01:05.13 | EstborrerEIE | and then i get |
| 01:05.14 | EstborrerEIE | , logical block 508378412 |
| 01:05.14 | EstborrerEIE | Buffer I/O error on device sda1 |
| 01:05.15 | bulio|lap | doing net install |
| 01:05.26 | EstborrerEIE | Some help with that? |
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| 01:05.33 | leikh | delire: frome client? |
| 01:05.36 | delire | EstborrerEIE: your scsi (probably usb storage device) has IO errors. |
| 01:05.47 | delire | leikh: yep |
| 01:06.06 | leikh | delire:client is win xp... |
| 01:06.06 | bulio|lap | debian doesn't see my old home partition :( |
| 01:06.15 | EstborrerEIE | But my usb works nice in Windows |
| 01:06.21 | Kinks | bulio|lap: so mount it |
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| 01:06.51 | leikh | delire: i have physical access to host, though... |
| 01:07.00 | delire | EstborrerEIE: i don't know, perhaps a driver thing. what is the device? a camera, a usb-stick a usb-external drive? |
| 01:07.11 | bulio|lap | I'm gonna re-install |
| 01:07.15 | bulio|lap | made a few errors anyways |
| 01:07.24 | EstborrerEIE | Delire: A usb storage device. |
| 01:07.32 | Kinks | bulio|lap: that would be a waste of time. |
| 01:07.40 | cheal | unity: perhaps sox if it supports the input audio format and the output audio format you have in mind |
| 01:07.41 | delire | leikh: as far as the win32 end goes, i have no idea. networking on windows is arcane magic. see if you have listening on ports 22 and 21 on the host. |
| 01:07.55 | pagey007 | bulio|lap: Have you not got install cd's/dvd? |
| 01:08.01 | delire | EstborrerEIE: what kernel version? 'uname -r' |
| 01:08.16 | bulio|lap | I'm doing net install |
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| 01:08.24 | EstborrerEIE | delire: 2.6.15 |
| 01:08.28 | cshaman | anyone have a clue how to use samba to gain access to a shared windows harddrive? |
| 01:08.43 | abrotman | !samba |
| 01:08.43 | dpkg | rumour has it, samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
| 01:09.02 | leikh | delire: yes, host is listening. it awaits username, then cuts me off... |
| 01:09.34 | bulio|lap | is there a way I can install X.org instead of Xfree86 for sarge? |
| 01:09.39 | leikh | delire: never happened with sarge... |
| 01:09.40 | delire | EstborrerEIE: i have the same version on one of my machines and good performance with my USB external hard-disk. try another USB port. |
| 01:09.53 | gravity | bulio|lap: /topic |
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| 01:10.10 | delire | leikh: are you trying to ssh as root? |
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| 01:10.17 | abrotman | wow .. |
| 01:10.25 | unity | cheal: i have figured out that mplayer can play it, so i guess i'll mencode it to mp3 or something |
| 01:10.30 | delire | leikh: sorry, ssh like so root@host |
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| 01:11.42 | delire | leikh: my hosts never allow ssh connections from "root". it may be your case there. |
| 01:11.46 | freedunc | I cannot play DVDs on debian unstable. Installed css stuff, /dev/dvd link is right, device is readable by cdrom group. "libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdrom with libdvdcss." (mplayer) |
| 01:12.04 | EstborrerEIE | delire: Nah, same thing. |
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| 01:12.16 | deadcat | does the wtmp file reset on every first of the month or also on a reboot? |
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| 01:12.42 | unity | cshaman: smbclient or smbmount |
| 01:12.50 | leikh | delire: that's not the case... neither sarge or testing would accept calls from root... |
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| 01:13.12 | delire | leikh, EstborrerEIE, tis very late on this side of the sphere. must head off. good luck both. |
| 01:13.21 | after | a |
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| 01:13.40 | after | hello. Any knows a web panel where I can monitor all processes of the server? |
| 01:13.53 | leikh | delire: sheerio |
| 01:13.57 | deadcat | after: maybe webmin? |
| 01:14.08 | after | webmin shows "ps aux" ? |
| 01:14.11 | gravity | ew, webmin |
| 01:14.17 | deadcat | after: i said MAYBE |
| 01:14.21 | after | oh ok :> |
| 01:14.22 | gravity | Isn't that dead yet? |
| 01:14.33 | deadcat | after: then just make a php script that runs ps aux then |
| 01:14.50 | EstborrerEIE | delire: Thanx for your time, i really apretiate it. |
| 01:14.56 | after | yes I did it.. but I want organize it on a table |
| 01:15.10 | abrotman | so use PHP |
| 01:15.10 | deadcat | after: parse it yourself then. tables |
| 01:15.11 | after | in this order: user pid process ... understang? |
| 01:15.33 | after | yes, but I don't know how to separate the informations |
| 01:15.52 | deadcat | after: php.net search for explode() |
| 01:15.54 | abrotman | so ask #php ? |
| 01:16.03 | after | debhelper I tried |
| 01:16.25 | after | oops, deadcat :) |
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| 01:16.54 | freedunc | Anyone able to provide any assisting debugging not being able to play DVD? |
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| 01:17.22 | bulio|lap | for root partition |
| 01:17.28 | bulio|lap | do I toggle it as bootable? |
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| 01:18.43 | deadcat | after: http://sshonly.sytes.net/ok.php |
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| 01:19.01 | cheal | freedunc: that's how to predict. consider asking a relevant question instead. |
| 01:19.10 | cheal | freedunc: s/how/hard |
| 01:19.35 | freedunc | cheal, relevant to... ? I provided more info in first query. |
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| 01:20.38 | dhuv | hello all. I am trying to find software for my internal network which can cache dns queries (and allow me to manually enter certain lookups so that the internal computers can go to the internal ip rather than the external one) |
| 01:20.38 | cheal | freedunc: first query? ask your question with the relevant information all at once, it should be more effective. |
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| 01:21.06 | freedunc | I cannot play DVDs on debian unstable. Installed css stuff, /dev/dvd link is right, device is readable by cdrom group. "libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdrom with libdvdcss." (mplayer) |
| 01:21.22 | cheal | freedunc: also, mplayer isn't supported here |
| 01:21.37 | freedunc | I looked around on the web, found my problem, but none of the solutions are relevant to my problem. |
| 01:21.44 | freedunc | cheal, also doesn't play with xine. |
| 01:21.44 | dhuv | freedunc: what does /dev/cdrom point to? |
| 01:22.06 | freedunc | dhuv, essentially, /dev/hdd (which is my dvd device) |
| 01:22.17 | abrotman | dhuv: bind ? |
| 01:22.34 | bulio|lap | on sarge I can just do apt-get install xserver-xorg? |
| 01:22.45 | freedunc | dhuv, exactly: ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd |
| 01:22.56 | gravity | bulio|lap: No, not by default |
| 01:22.56 | cheal | bulio|lap: that will probably fail |
| 01:23.07 | dhuv | abrotman: I looked into bind9 but I dont want an entire dns server, just a simple cache which the admin can overwrite some of the lookups. |
| 01:23.22 | bulio|lap | cheal: how can I make it work then? |
| 01:23.40 | dhuv | freedunc: does it play as root? |
| 01:23.43 | bulio|lap | X.org is much simpler I find |
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| 01:23.51 | cheal | bulio|lap: what do you want to install exactly? |
| 01:23.53 | freedunc | Every person who i found who had the problem i had an obvious permissions or missing link problem. I don't believe my problem |
| 01:23.57 | freedunc | dhuv, no |
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| 01:24.05 | bulio|lap | X.org so I can run KDE |
| 01:24.07 | abrotman | dhuv: iirc .. it does caching by default |
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| 01:24.14 | freedunc | dhuv, same behavior as root or user |
| 01:24.25 | cheal | bulio|lap: uh? you don't need X.org to run KDE? |
| 01:24.31 | cheal | bulio|lap: s/?/. |
| 01:24.37 | bulio|lap | what do I nee? |
| 01:24.38 | gravity | bulio|lap: X.Org in sarge is functionally identical to XFree86 |
| 01:24.39 | bulio|lap | *need |
| 01:24.47 | gravity | bulio|lap: One is not any simpler than the other |
| 01:24.49 | cheal | bulio|lap: you need X |
| 01:24.57 | bulio|lap | ok |
| 01:25.03 | bulio|lap | so how do I install Xfree86? |
| 01:25.12 | gravity | bulio|lap: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 01:25.14 | cheal | !tell bulio|lap about install x |
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| 01:25.57 | bulio|lap | I don't understand it |
| 01:26.07 | bulio|lap | just type exactly what it says but as root? |
| 01:26.14 | freedunc | It seems that libdvdread errors are _very_ generic. |
| 01:26.36 | bucky | dhuv: apt-cache show dnsmasq |
| 01:26.58 | cheal | bulio|lap: yes, you install software as root the vast majority of time |
| 01:27.28 | abrotman | cheater! |
| 01:27.32 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 01:27.32 | dpkg | i heard qotd133 is <Atula> I was wondering if someone can tell me how to write the fstab for the tape drive |
| 01:27.45 | bulio|lap | so first do apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover |
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| 01:28.15 | dhuv | bucky: looks good, let me check it out |
| 01:28.24 | dhuv | freedunc: do you get the same error as root |
| 01:28.29 | freedunc | dhuv, yes |
| 01:28.59 | dhuv | as far as I can tell, thats the only thing thats causing the problem. or try to symlink /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdd |
| 01:29.31 | freedunc | dhuv, i think there must be some other problem because i've verified all the obvious things... link right, permissions right... |
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| 01:30.16 | freedunc | So i need some hint as how to "debug" in face of an essentially useless error message (libdvdread can't open /dev/cdrom) |
| 01:30.39 | bulio|lap | alright, first apt get done |
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| 01:30.54 | bulio|lap | so first do apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover right? |
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| 01:31.38 | bulio|lap | now to choose |
| 01:31.41 | bulio|lap | gnome or KDE? |
| 01:32.06 | cheal | bulio|lap: you can install both if you don't know |
| 01:32.09 | bulio|lap | I know |
| 01:32.16 | bulio|lap | I'm just not sure what I sahould run |
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| 01:32.46 | cindy | run gnome |
| 01:33.10 | gravity | bulio|lap: Try both. Seriously, it's 100% a matter of taste |
| 01:33.16 | bulio|lap | yeah |
| 01:33.23 | Makara_ | I want to stop smtp service in debian could anyone tell me what should I do? |
| 01:33.29 | bulio|lap | I tried gnome in ubuntu, fluxbox in arch and KDE in slackware |
| 01:33.51 | cheal | gravity: heh, a question of taste? :) |
| 01:34.06 | after | I need something for control and management of vservers on debian sarge.. any knows something? |
| 01:34.49 | cheal | bulio|lap: so, use the one you preferred (don't mix KDE with the pain of slackware itself, though ;) ) |
| 01:35.10 | bulio|lap | I loved slackware :( |
| 01:35.13 | wakejagr | Makara_: probably /etc/init.d/exim4 stop, but it depends what smtp server you are running |
| 01:35.20 | gravity | bulio|lap: If you didn't try out any of them for a long period of time, I recommend doing so |
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| 01:35.28 | bulio|lap | only one problem, the package management system |
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| 01:35.35 | cheal | bulio|lap: hehe. you're going to love Debian |
| 01:36.05 | bulio|lap | thats why I switched ;) |
| 01:36.13 | bulio|lap | I used ubuntu at vone point and loved apt |
| 01:36.23 | Makara_ | wakejagr, it done thanks |
| 01:36.38 | wakejagr | Makara_: np |
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| 01:36.46 | un76 | any one know anything about cedega? |
| 01:36.54 | wakejagr | d'oh, to late |
| 01:37.00 | abrotman | un76: try #cedega |
| 01:37.02 | un76 | do u need a user name and password to run ti ? |
| 01:37.05 | un76 | o ok |
| 01:37.16 | bulio|lap | ok I'll go for KDE |
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| 01:39.07 | magyar | how can one sysadmin prevent SATA module from loading before SCSI RAID on etch. kernel 2.6.15 ? |
| 01:39.16 | bulio|lap | ok, installed KDE now what? |
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| 01:40.00 | bulio|lap | how do I get into it? |
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| 01:40.51 | abrotman | magyar: do you want me to tell you again? |
| 01:41.06 | bulio|lap | how do I start KDE now? |
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| 01:41.58 | bulio|lap | anyone? |
| 01:41.58 | magyar | abrotman: can you please :) |
| 01:42.07 | abrotman | magyar: look in /etc/modutils/ |
| 01:42.31 | magyar | abrotman: i dont know what to right in "actions" |
| 01:42.38 | magyar | which module etc |
| 01:43.07 | bulio|lap | how do I launch KDE? |
| 01:43.19 | d03boy | kdm |
| 01:43.21 | cheal | bulio|lap: perhaps just startx would bring you in it |
| 01:43.39 | bulio|lap | I'll try |
| 01:44.12 | magyar | abrotman: if i change the order in grub and fstab, the OS still loads the sata drive |
| 01:44.23 | abrotman | magyar: no kidding |
| 01:44.31 | magyar | kind og f-ed |
| 01:44.35 | magyar | of |
| 01:44.50 | bulio|lap | don't I need to edit the startx file so that I can start kde? |
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| 01:45.14 | gravity | bulio|lap: echo "startkde" > ~/.xsession ; startx |
| 01:45.18 | cheal | bulio|lap: no |
| 01:45.23 | gravity | bulio|lap: You can just use startx from then on |
| 01:45.31 | abrotman | magyar: i'm pretty sure i told you exactly what to do last night |
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| 01:45.38 | magyar | abrotman: i never seen anything like it before, if i had issues with boot devices i just change the ordr and viola, it works |
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| 01:46.19 | magyar | abrotman: you told me to look in the actions file, so i did, but now what, what do i place there? |
| 01:46.39 | abrotman | no .. i gave you a man page to read |
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| 01:47.14 | abrotman | brandon__: #ubuntu |
| 01:47.32 | magyar | i did and i see a solution, most likley with pre-install or so, but which module I have no clue |
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| 01:47.49 | abrotman | magyar: the one for the sata and scsi cards maybe? |
| 01:48.51 | magyar | abrotman: doesnt make sence |
| 01:48.57 | abrotman | how can it not make sense? |
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| 01:49.34 | magyar | abrotman: the os should be a bit more flexible, if there is no root partition why try to load proc? |
| 01:49.47 | alpha1_ | okay I am back again.. I did what you suggested.. use apt-get install fbdesk to install the desktop icons for fluxbox.. but my apt-get is messed up ... it keeps running an installation wizard.. says.. configuring phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 01:49.53 | magyar | abrotman: also , whould e2lable would solve anything? |
| 01:49.54 | abrotman | magyar: because .. it has to load a / |
| 01:49.55 | alpha1_ | how do I cancel this? |
| 01:50.01 | abrotman | magyar: no idea .. never used it |
| 01:50.19 | alpha1_ | it keeps running everytime I try to use apt-get now |
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| 01:50.54 | alpha1_ | any ideas would be appreciated thanks |
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| 01:53.41 | bulio|lap | KDE is working, only one problem |
| 01:53.48 | abrotman | it's kde? |
| 01:53.50 | bulio|lap | I have no 1024X768 option |
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| 01:54.26 | abrotman | !drxx bulio|lap |
| 01:54.26 | dpkg | bulio|lap: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 01:54.33 | abrotman | bulio|lap: only pick one resolution |
| 01:54.48 | bulio|lap | I did that |
| 01:54.50 | alpha1_ | I had the same problem before bulio |
| 01:54.50 | bulio|lap | I chose it |
| 01:54.59 | abrotman | bulio|lap: what driver did you pick? |
| 01:55.00 | bulio|lap | theres tons going down from 800x600 |
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| 01:55.05 | bulio|lap | vesa I believe |
| 01:55.11 | alpha1_ | you have to run the xserver-sfree86 again |
| 01:55.13 | abrotman | bulio|lap: and what video card do you have? |
| 01:55.26 | alpha1_ | to set resolution in our config file |
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| 01:55.36 | abrotman | alpha1_: not quite |
| 01:55.49 | alpha1_ | thats what I did worked for me |
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| 01:56.04 | alpha1_ | but I geuss laptops is whole different kettle of fish |
| 01:56.05 | abrotman | alpha1_: the vesa driver only goes up to 800x600 .. he needs to pick a better driver too |
| 01:56.22 | alpha1_ | yeah that helps if you have the right driver lol |
| 01:56.29 | FireDemon | Does anyone know how to get MIDI sound to work? |
| 01:56.54 | bulio|lap | so pick what? |
| 01:56.57 | abrotman | bulio|lap: what video card do you have? |
| 01:56.59 | bulio|lap | I have a 4MB agp |
| 01:57.15 | abrotman | lspci | grep -i vga |
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| 01:57.39 | bulio|lap | Vga compatible card |
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| 01:57.44 | bulio|lap | *controller |
| 01:57.45 | abrotman | bulio|lap: what does the line say? |
| 01:57.55 | FireDemon | I have onboard sound and MIDI refuses to work. Any suggestions? |
| 01:58.00 | bulio|lap | ATI Technologies inc 3D rage Pro AGP |
| 01:58.08 | bulio|lap | its vga compatible |
| 01:58.12 | bulio|lap | how do I reconfigure X? |
| 01:58.13 | abrotman | bulio|lap: so pick the ati driver .. then choose 1024x768 |
| 01:58.18 | abrotman | !drxx bulio|lap |
| 01:58.18 | dpkg | bulio|lap: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:58.43 | alpha1_ | thats what I did dpkg... |
| 01:58.49 | alpha1_ | but laptops I dunno |
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| 01:59.12 | alpha1_ | I got LCD and debian didnt recognize my large resolution on this 19 inch LCD |
| 01:59.22 | alpha1_ | highest it goes is 1078x..... |
| 01:59.49 | alpha1_ | it only went as high as 800 x 600 to begin with |
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| 02:00.19 | bulio|lap | trying again |
| 02:00.30 | bulio|lap | also, how do I update the apt repos? |
| 02:00.49 | bulio|lap | still nothing :X |
| 02:00.57 | slinn | apt-get update ? |
| 02:01.19 | bulio|lap | ok |
| 02:01.31 | bulio|lap | X server driver: ati |
| 02:01.51 | abrotman | what bit depth did you choose? |
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| 02:36.13 | jmd | j2b, /join #debian-br ?? |
| 02:36.15 | abrotman | apt: wb |
| 02:36.17 | apt | thx |
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| 02:36.53 | shogunx | jmd export it in their ~/.Xsession |
| 02:36.53 | j2b | tanks |
| 02:37.35 | jmd | shogunx, That's no good. .Xsession overrides the default .Xsession |
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| 02:38.34 | shogunx | jmd you want htem to use the global Xsession? |
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| 02:39.17 | jmd | shogunx, I just want a hook, so that they can set environment variables (and maybe do other things) when they log in. |
| 02:39.34 | deb-noob | please....what is the command to setup xserver again? |
| 02:39.40 | jmd | I don't want it to override the default window manager or anything. |
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| 02:39.50 | alpha1_ | k back to my original question now... I wanted to get the icons installed on the fluxbox desktop... but when I run apt-get install fbdesk... it says its already installed.. but still no icons on my desktop.... |
| 02:40.03 | jmd | deb-noob, Which xserver ? |
| 02:40.07 | alpha1_ | any ideas? |
| 02:40.27 | deb-noob | jmd: i mean... xconfigurator...you know to set the resolution |
| 02:40.42 | deb-noob | xconfig??? |
| 02:40.56 | abrotman | !drxx deb-noob |
| 02:40.56 | dpkg | deb-noob: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:40.57 | deb-noob | xsetup* |
| 02:40.57 | deb-noob | something like that i think |
| 02:41.01 | shogunx | alpha1_ fbdesk has configuration iles that need attending to perhaps? |
| 02:41.03 | strefli3 | question, in solaris I use setenv to set a variable, is there an equivlent in debian? |
| 02:41.07 | deb-noob | thank you!!! |
| 02:41.27 | abrotman | strefli3: it's shell dependant |
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| 02:41.42 | strefli3 | abrotman thanks |
| 02:41.45 | shogunx | strefli3 with bash its export $VAR=VALUE |
| 02:41.46 | GullyFoyle | alpha1_: ask in #fluxbox, those guys know all that stuff |
| 02:41.50 | alpha1_ | possible I am to new to fluxbox to know all I know is I get the context menus up okay and can run programs okay but no icons |
| 02:41.50 | abrotman | strefli3: most use bash .. which would be `export var=blahblahblah` |
| 02:41.56 | alpha1_ | okay I will try in there thanks |
| 02:42.11 | alpha1_ | #fluxbox |
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| 02:42.33 | GullyFoyle | alpha1_: i use idesk and it works fine |
| 02:42.56 | alpha1_ | what apt-get command do you use to install it? |
| 02:43.12 | strefli3 | abrotman is it perminent? |
| 02:43.28 | abrotman | strefli3: use .bashrc or .bash_profile to make it so |
| 02:43.38 | strefli3 | thanks |
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| 02:44.11 | GullyFoyle | alpha1_: apt-cache search idesk |
| 02:44.21 | alpha1_ | cool thanks I will try it out |
| 02:44.33 | GullyFoyle | then apt-get install idesk |
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| 02:45.48 | phlegmer | is this Debian newbs annonymous? |
| 02:45.53 | alpha1_ | thanks gully looks like it installed great |
| 02:45.56 | alpha1_ | will check it out |
| 02:45.59 | billybob | how should i dual boot using ntldr? |
| 02:46.00 | GullyFoyle | alpha1_: after you install it, try it from the command line first, then put idesk & in your ~/.fluxbox/startup script |
| 02:46.04 | billybob | phlegmer: yes? |
| 02:46.13 | alpha1_ | k thanks gully |
| 02:46.21 | phlegmer | my name is phlegmer and I'm a newb |
| 02:46.27 | phlegmer | :) |
| 02:46.37 | billybob | my name is billy bob and i hosed my sony laptop |
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| 02:46.46 | shogunx | phlegmer admitting your probelm is the first step to recovery. |
| 02:46.46 | phlegmer | ouch! |
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| 02:46.58 | Skinzy | my name is Skinzy, and i'm cold |
| 02:46.58 | phlegmer | thanks shogunx |
| 02:46.58 | GullyFoyle | alpha1_: #idesk & may already be in ~/.fluxbox/startup just uncomment it |
| 02:47.22 | billybob | so somebody tell me how to dual boot! lol i can only get to windows right now and it sucks ballsack for quarters |
| 02:47.33 | Skinzy | install GRUB or somting? |
| 02:47.45 | billybob | i can't get to debian |
| 02:47.48 | phlegmer | I've dabbled just a bit a long time ago with Debian and really didn't get very far.... |
| 02:47.51 | phlegmer | now I' |
| 02:47.52 | Skinzy | ah |
| 02:47.52 | alpha1_ | LILO for dual boot |
| 02:47.55 | phlegmer | sorry |
| 02:48.03 | billybob | can't get to debian |
| 02:48.07 | abrotman | grub ? |
| 02:48.10 | phlegmer | now I've installed Debian on my Kurobox..... |
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| 02:48.21 | billybob | i don't have a floppy either |
| 02:48.35 | phlegmer | I don't quite know how to install stuff....kinda embarrasing |
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| 02:48.38 | kronoz | grub > lilo |
| 02:48.39 | abrotman | !grub floppy image |
| 02:48.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, grub floppy image is ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/ |
| 02:48.44 | billybob | and one of the pins on my laptops ide connection was going bad and writing a '1' every 8th bit lol |
| 02:48.45 | shogunx | billybob use ye old install disk and choose "make system bootable" from themenu |
| 02:48.47 | Goweropolis | Weird question: anyone out there use Epiphany to browse oink.me.uk? |
| 02:48.49 | phlegmer | I untared java but I don't know what to do with it next |
| 02:48.57 | jmd | Are there any extra fonts available for sodipodi ? |
| 02:49.00 | billybob | i have no install disk |
| 02:49.04 | abrotman | !tell phlegmer about install java |
| 02:49.05 | billybob | did it from internet |
| 02:49.09 | kronoz | !java-package |
| 02:49.09 | billybob | lol i suck! |
| 02:49.09 | dpkg | somebody said java-package was a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
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| 02:49.27 | gravity | Ok... if you run unstable, beware... |
| 02:49.46 | cheal | gravity: AAAH! |
| 02:49.58 | phlegmer | hmmm.... |
| 02:50.09 | phlegmer | not sure if that will work with my Kurobox |
| 02:50.49 | shogunx | gravity why? |
| 02:50.57 | gravity | shogunx: New Xorg coming tomorrow |
| 02:51.01 | abrotman | gravity: can you do something .. like break pam ? |
| 02:51.06 | Coweater | jmd: you can select any truetype font you have installed from the text and font dialog |
| 02:51.09 | phlegmer | This is where I was told from the Kurobox folks to get java 1.4.2 http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/ |
| 02:51.11 | cheal | everyone, gravity is going to break your boxes again! |
| 02:51.13 | gravity | abrotman: I already broke X |
| 02:51.18 | gravity | Again |
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| 02:51.27 | abrotman | gravity: will it break tomorrow? |
| 02:51.33 | abrotman | phlegmer: wtf is kurobox ? |
| 02:51.35 | gravity | abrotman: x86 should be fine |
| 02:51.43 | gravity | abrotman: Other arches will need to wait |
| 02:51.45 | abrotman | gravity: suits me just fine ... :) |
| 02:51.46 | phlegmer | an opensource NAS |
| 02:51.58 | phlegmer | like a linkstation |
| 02:52.19 | abrotman | you're installing java on your NAS ? |
| 02:52.20 | Hamled | this might not be the best channel to ask this, but would a process listening on one UDP socket for all data be an less efficient (assuming all other things equal) than a process listening on multiple UDP sockets, each for a different part of the data it would recieve? |
| 02:52.21 | phlegmer | http://www.kurobox.com/revolution/what.html |
| 02:52.31 | jmd | Coweater, That means any fonts from pkgs ttf-* ? |
| 02:52.42 | Coweater | yes |
| 02:52.45 | shogunx | gravity is that why my apt-source build failed miserably yesterday while plain x.org sources compiled no prob? |
| 02:52.57 | gravity | shogunx: Probably not |
| 02:53.03 | abrotman | !blame gravity |
| 02:53.08 | jmd | Coweater, thanks. |
| 02:53.08 | cheal | gravity: but where's XGL? |
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| 02:53.48 | gravity | cheal: I'm getting a symbol error when I try to run it. I haven't been able to debug it just yet |
| 02:54.05 | nnod | hey what's going on in here |
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| 02:54.20 | abrotman | nnod: sorry .. it was a $randnick thing |
| 02:54.34 | nnod | cool, do i win anything? |
| 02:54.39 | abrotman | !prize nnod |
| 02:54.44 | gravity | You win a beer! |
| 02:54.44 | cheal | gravity: so we still have to run ubnutu or suse because of a symbol? |
| 02:54.53 | gravity | cheal: If you want to debug it, I'd appreciate it |
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| 02:54.58 | abrotman | cheal: you could run etch :) |
| 02:55.38 | cheal | abrotman: you GNOME geek. KDE doesn't work without XGL nowadays! |
| 02:56.06 | abrotman | cheal: you could just add sleep commands to gnome apps .. it would have the same effect |
| 02:56.22 | cheal | abrotman: hehe |
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| 02:57.03 | cheal | gravity: people don't even seem to be afraid of you :) |
| 02:57.15 | gravity | cheal: Should they be? |
| 02:57.36 | billybob | if i get this to work i'm gonna write a book on this whore of an experience |
| 02:58.04 | abrotman | gravity: you are a force of nature ? |
| 02:58.08 | gravity | heh, good point |
| 02:58.48 | cheal | since how long did unstable have X11R6? |
| 02:59.02 | gravity | heh, probably forever |
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| 02:59.09 | gravity | I'm not sure if Debian was around since X11R5 |
| 02:59.23 | abrotman | that doesn't mean unstable had it the whole time :) |
| 02:59.28 | gravity | True |
| 02:59.33 | cheal | gravity: and you're wondering why people should be afraid when you're removing it? |
| 02:59.41 | gravity | cheal: Ah, well... |
| 02:59.45 | abrotman | i think debian started around the same time X was just ported to Linux |
| 02:59.50 | gravity | that's different than being scared of me :-) |
| 03:00.20 | abrotman | where's pipeline when we need to know useless old man info ... |
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| 03:01.01 | jetscreamer | i'm a useless old man, but that's not exactly what you wanted eh |
| 03:01.10 | abrotman | jetscreamer: but you're a creepy old man |
| 03:01.17 | phlegmer | I think I better stick with the kurobox forums on this one... this doesn't look like what I need.... thanks anyway |
| 03:01.27 | jetscreamer | damn it's showing through? |
| 03:01.52 | jetscreamer | i thought my cloak of lemming skin was making me blend in |
| 03:01.52 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you're from texas .. you're either a creepy old man .. or invading other countries .. |
| 03:02.09 | jetscreamer | no my country (texas) has been invaded |
| 03:02.10 | cheal | abrotman: hehehe |
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| 03:03.55 | phlegmer | rpm's can't be used in Debian can they? |
| 03:04.02 | gravity | phlegmer: apt-cache show alien |
| 03:04.03 | jetscreamer | !alien |
| 03:04.03 | dpkg | from memory, alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 03:04.09 | gravity | phlegmer: It's not recommended though |
| 03:04.13 | gravity | It's usually a really bad idea |
| 03:04.25 | cheal | every time I try to understand what was X.org before X11R6.7, I fail. it looks like there's a period of competition where X.org exists but isn't used, and then it becomes a fork of XFree86 and the default X implementation |
| 03:04.27 | abrotman | phlegmer: but your system isn't really debian is it ? |
| 03:04.32 | jetscreamer | !worship gravity |
| 03:04.50 | cheal | !beer gravity |
| 03:04.52 | alpha1_ | hey thats a pretty cool package alien |
| 03:04.59 | gravity | cheal: It's kind of complicated and mainly political |
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| 03:05.13 | gravity | I only sort of understand it myself, because I wasn't helping found the current X.Org |
| 03:05.13 | jetscreamer | i used it twice it worked, once it didn't, iirc |
| 03:05.31 | phlegmer | ahhh... |
| 03:05.37 | cheal | gravity: OK, that reassures me |
| 03:05.42 | phlegmer | "This is a tool only suitable for binary packages." |
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| 03:06.27 | cheal | abrotman: I hope to see you again despite gravity's upload! |
| 03:06.39 | abrotman | cheal: install irssi-text now .. just in case :) |
| 03:07.03 | abrotman | maybe gravity should have made the sid xorg depend on irssi-text :) |
| 03:07.04 | cheal | abrotman: haha, you're right, time to get to learn CLI IRC :) |
| 03:07.10 | gravity | heh |
| 03:07.11 | cheal | LOL |
| 03:07.57 | GullyFoyle | irssi rocks! i used to use xchat but now it's all irssi |
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| 03:10.20 | dragontii | GullyFoyle, good |
| 03:10.28 | cheal | gravity: honestly, don't worry, you know me and abrotman like irritating you. there won't be any regression in X11R7 ;) |
| 03:10.35 | gravity | hahaha |
| 03:10.37 | gravity | There will be |
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| 03:10.39 | gravity | But I'll fix them |
| 03:10.46 | gravity | But the good news is that etch will have modular Xorg |
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| 03:11.03 | billybob | how can i figure out which kind of debian i have? |
| 03:11.08 | gravity | cheal: I'm not worried about it. I'll maintain the thing |
| 03:11.21 | cheal | billybob: what kind of kind of debian? the version? |
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| 03:11.29 | Agrajag- | billybob: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:11.31 | billybob | cheal: yeah |
| 03:11.38 | billybob | thanks guys |
| 03:11.45 | cheal | billybob: as Agrajag- said |
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| 03:12.23 | cheal | gravity: I knew you wouldn't mention XGL :-P |
| 03:12.47 | cheal | gravity: really seriously now, congratulations in advance |
| 03:12.49 | gravity | cheal: I don't know if that will ship with etch. I haven't decided |
| 03:13.34 | cheal | gravity: oh, I was really just joking. I'm not even aware of what XGL is beyond something hype |
| 03:13.54 | minerale | how do I enable IPV6 ? |
| 03:14.17 | minerale | apt-get install ipv6 ? |
| 03:14.38 | shogunx | minerale first and foremost, in the kernel. if your kernel already has support for v6, then you need a connection to the ipv6 internet. |
| 03:14.51 | stew | minerale: modprove ipv6 |
| 03:14.54 | stew | err modprobe |
| 03:14.59 | shogunx | apt-get install freenet6 will do so for you minerale |
| 03:15.38 | cat | where can i get this library ibstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 |
| 03:15.41 | cat | *libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 |
| 03:15.54 | gravity | cheal: It exists, but I don't know how stable it is for Debian to distribute |
| 03:15.57 | shogunx | minerale although there are several other tunnel brokers you can connect to... google tunnel broker. if your ISP has native ipv6, you are lucky. |
| 03:16.30 | cat | anyone has any idea about that Library? |
| 03:16.40 | shogunx | minerale you can actually still get a /48 of address space, in which case you would want to use radvd to route those packets and assign addresses. |
| 03:16.54 | cheal | gravity: OK. I don't even know if it's a competitor to aiglx or what. |
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| 03:17.39 | gravity | cheal: I don't know either really |
| 03:17.41 | gravity | We'll see |
| 03:17.59 | cheal | cat: why do you need that? |
| 03:18.00 | shogunx | cheal it lets you map an entire interface or individual windows to geometry in a 3d space. |
| 03:18.26 | cat | cheal: because im try to used aim |
| 03:18.31 | cat | and it gives me this error |
| 03:18.31 | billybob | i have debian installed but when i try and boot it it says "Insert system disk and press enter" |
| 03:18.38 | cat | aim: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 03:18.49 | billybob | i insert the disk and it trys to re install debian... what do i do? |
| 03:18.56 | cheal | cat: how did you get aim? |
| 03:19.21 | cat | cheal: on website |
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| 03:19.24 | cat | aim.com |
| 03:19.48 | shogunx | try passing expert at the boot prompt of the install media, then look in the menu. |
| 03:20.28 | shogunx | cat aol is making a native linux aim client now? |
| 03:20.40 | cheal | cat: non-free software not distributed by Debian is not supported here. try asking the distributor |
| 03:20.54 | cat | cheal: check the website again they have debs, |
| 03:20.59 | cat | shogunx: yeah, |
| 03:21.01 | cat | check it out, |
| 03:21.22 | cheal | cat: at least give a more specific link |
| 03:21.31 | shogunx | cat i'll pass. not sure if i would trust their code. |
| 03:21.36 | cat | http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp#libraries |
| 03:21.49 | cat | shogunx: i wonder why the heck is giving me that error, |
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| 03:22.00 | phlegmer | one more stupid newb question before I go.... |
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| 03:22.34 | phlegmer | I don't know if I fully understand hosts.allow. Whatever ip range that is in there, that is what can access the box correct? |
| 03:22.35 | shogunx | cat perhaps its linked against a different version of that library than the one present on your box? |
| 03:22.52 | cat | shogunx: how can i get that library is my question? |
| 03:23.09 | tansaku | hi - I'm having a problem moving a debian box from testing to stable - I get exim4-config errors |
| 03:23.29 | shogunx | cat it probably specific to the version and flavor of linux aol built that client on. |
| 03:23.33 | dragontii | phlegmer yes... allow mean.. allow. |
| 03:23.41 | cheal | !tell tansaku about downgrade |
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| 03:23.52 | shogunx | try apt-file search libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 cat |
| 03:24.02 | phlegmer | so if one is away on the road a lot and get different IP's, wouldn't you want to just open it to all? |
| 03:24.41 | tansaku | cheal: will a bot now tell me about downgrade? |
| 03:24.52 | phlegmer | I'm talking accessing it remotely |
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| 03:24.55 | cheal | tansaku: it should |
| 03:24.58 | cheal | !downgrade |
| 03:24.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
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| 03:25.50 | tansaku | aha, hmm, although I found this: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html |
| 03:26.14 | shogunx | phlegmer if you are serious about security in that fashion, i would setup a ipsec vpn between the two hosts. |
| 03:26.15 | dragontii | phlegmer let only all ip of this isp user allow |
| 03:26.26 | tansaku | however the unpleasant side-effect appears to be my apache server has died and won't restart |
| 03:26.31 | unix_infidel | does debian have a compatibility list for bluetooth wireless devices? |
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| 03:26.43 | unix_infidel | or is there a wiki entry for ones that are generally linux compatible> |
| 03:27.03 | shogunx | unix_infidel /dev/null? just kidding:) |
| 03:27.10 | tansaku | can I get back to my original unstable/testing config easily? e.g. apt-get -t testing/unstable dist-upgrade |
| 03:27.27 | unix_infidel | shogunx: heh, thinking about getting dlink usb BT adapter. |
| 03:27.46 | unix_infidel | i hear generally though, linux BT support sucks the dongle. |
| 03:27.47 | phlegmer | cool... thanks all... gotta run. |
| 03:27.49 | phlegmer | later.... |
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| 03:28.29 | cheal | tansaku: it's not strictly impossible to downgrade, but you would need a load of luck for spending less time fixing a downgrade from testing to stable than reinstalling |
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| 03:30.08 | dragontii | and reinstalling is to a sad if you have made more than one partition, like a /data containing music film |
| 03:30.19 | dragontii | is not too sad* |
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| 03:33.28 | tansaku | okay so now I want to get back to testing/unstable, but when I run apt-get -t testing/unstable dist-upgrade I get the same exim4-config |
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| 03:34.19 | tansaku | error |
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| 03:37.02 | nowaz | i thought i have installed 'testing' but the last line of my login screen indicates : "Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable..." How does 'unstable' creep in? |
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| 03:38.41 | nowaz | eh? |
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| 03:39.05 | cheal | nowaz: according to what you say you have pure testing. it's just that there's no mechanism implemented to distinguish both |
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| 03:40.41 | nowaz | cheal: so, i can be sure that i am using 'testing' despite the system indicating 'testing/unstable'? |
| 03:41.01 | cheal | nowaz: unless your sources.list contradicts that, yes |
| 03:41.16 | stew | nowaz: run "apt-cache policy" and look for unstable |
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| 03:42.23 | nowaz | cheal: sometimes i do change the sources.list to get package fr 'unstable' and even 'stable'. |
| 03:42.48 | cheal | nowaz: then you may have an unstable system, or a mix |
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| 03:44.54 | EdLin | !bobbit |
| 03:44.56 | nowaz | cheal: i do have a mix system, with packages fr stable to unstable. |
| 03:45.12 | EdLin | dpkg: test |
| 03:45.13 | dpkg | Yes, edlin, you're still online. |
| 03:45.15 | shogunx | !bonghit |
| 03:45.35 | cheal | nowaz: OK. so, did that answer your question? |
| 03:45.51 | nowaz | cheal: yeh, thks. |
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| 03:47.19 | cheal | dpkg: testing/unstable is <reply>Debian doesn't distinguish if a system runs testing or unstable. "testing/unstable" means a system is either tracking testing or unstable (or a mix). if you want the list of releases your system really tracks, run $ apt-cache policy|awk '$1<2000{n=split($3,r,"/");if(n){print r[1];}}'|sort -u|tr "\n" ,;echo; |
| 03:47.19 | dpkg | cheal: okay |
| 03:47.37 | cheal | stew: what do you think about that factoid? |
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| 03:48.05 | cheal | except for being long, of course |
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| 03:50.58 | coywolf | my wireless has a rj45 wan port, but my adsl modem has only rj11, how do I use them? |
| 03:50.59 | stew | cheal: yeah, i tried for a while to figure out how to do that shorter and gave up |
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| 03:51.33 | coywolf | wireless router I mean |
| 03:51.36 | cheal | stew: hehe. OK |
| 03:51.50 | nowaz | i am having this strange problem. after booting all the way to kdm, the mouse is not activated. but after i do a ctrl-alt-f1 and then a ctrl-f7 to get back to the kdm screen, the mouse works. any idea why? |
| 03:52.43 | cheal | !debian version |
| 03:52.44 | dpkg | To determine which version of debian you are running cat /etc/debian_version, or check the version of some important packages such as libc6 (dpkg -l <package>) |
| 03:53.24 | nowaz | i notice that in the boot-up to kdm, i do not go thro' the x-window screen, the one with the coarse dots and a big 'x'. |
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| 03:54.34 | cheal | dpkg: no, debian version is <REPLY> To determine which version of debian you are running, run $ cat /etc/debian_version; If this outputs "testing/unstable", ask me about "testing/unstable". |
| 03:54.35 | dpkg | okay, cheal |
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| 03:55.03 | chungaroo | how do i recompile my kernel with acpi enabled? |
| 03:56.14 | cheal | chungaroo: I guess you would enable CONFIG_ACPI |
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| 03:56.45 | tansaku | anyone ever seen this error "libtasn1.so.2: cannot open shared object file" |
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| 03:57.14 | netman1 | tansaku: apt-file search libtasn1.so.2 |
| 03:57.42 | tansaku | netman1: I get "bash: apt-file: command not found" |
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| 03:58.11 | tansaku | you mean apt-cache? |
| 03:58.17 | netman1 | tansaku: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search .... |
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| 03:59.02 | yos87 | Hi, |
| 03:59.11 | _6ix_ | 'Sup? |
| 03:59.13 | netman1 | tansaku: You can also use : dselect update ; dpkt -S libtasn1.so.2 |
| 03:59.20 | nowaz | any possible solution for my mouse problem? |
| 03:59.21 | netman1 | s/dpkt/dpkg/ |
| 03:59.28 | chungaroo | cheal, i mean...i don't know how to recompile |
| 04:00.00 | cheal | hehe...have fun |
| 04:00.01 | cheal | !tell chungaroo about kp |
| 04:00.03 | tansaku | netman - I installed apt-file - got the same libtasn error as befor, but apt-file appears installed |
| 04:00.30 | tansaku | netman; searching for libtasn1.so.2 with apt file gives no search results - does that tell us something useful? |
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| 04:00.44 | netman1 | tansaku : Did you give the apt-file update? |
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| 04:01.40 | tansaku | I did, but stupidly didn't repeat the search - now it gives me locations of libtasn1.so.2 |
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| 04:02.13 | netman1 | tansaku: ok, install the packages. ;-) Sorry, gotta run, work, you know. |
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| 04:03.26 | tansaku | netman: install the packages? problem is that libtasn is installed, just that other things using complain about it - anyway you have to run - many thanks for your help |
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| 04:04.27 | minimec | tansaku: What Software causes you that problem? |
| 04:04.44 | chungaroo | how do i open a .gz file? |
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| 04:05.45 | Arkaic | chungaroo: gunzip |
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| 04:09.13 | iter | what's most straightforward way to make sure two different servers have identical packages installed |
| 04:09.24 | iter | diff dpkg -l ? |
| 04:09.35 | grendal_prime | well do they both run sarge? |
| 04:09.43 | iter | yes |
| 04:09.49 | grendal_prime | update them both |
| 04:09.49 | iter | same everything |
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| 04:10.29 | iter | they're production servers |
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| 04:11.00 | grendal_prime | you are afraid to run update on production sarge servers? |
| 04:11.09 | Arkaic | iter: the diff should work fine |
| 04:11.21 | iter | if it ain't broke, then why fuck with it |
| 04:11.33 | yos87 | What is the best package to download whole website |
| 04:11.51 | grendal_prime | shit id be afraid in that situation..if they were in a swimming pool..but |
| 04:11.51 | shogunx | yos87 wget |
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| 04:12.05 | grendal_prime | iter, if you need security updates you better run them |
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| 04:12.57 | iter | I was hoping for something really slick.. ah well :) |
| 04:13.13 | tansaku | minimec: the problem comes when trying to run apt-get update, which needs gnupg, which by a long line needs libtasn |
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| 04:13.47 | yos87 | shogunx: wget is text |
| 04:13.53 | yos87 | shogunx: Graphic one? |
| 04:13.58 | tansaku | the dist-upgrade initially complained about libtasn when trying to upgrade exim-04, but not any more |
| 04:14.22 | grendal_prime | dude...wget rocks..its simple..you want a front end use kget |
| 04:14.40 | tansaku | unforunately apache is unresponsive, and I can only assume that we need to complete apt-get update successfully to subsequently fix everything |
| 04:14.42 | grendal_prime | if your doing dev work just import the project with quanta+ |
| 04:14.55 | grendal_prime | it will grab the entire website.. |
| 04:14.57 | shogunx | yos87 you want to use more cpu cycles and ram to accomplish the same thing? |
| 04:15.14 | grendal_prime | shogunx, hes a windows convert i think |
| 04:15.20 | grendal_prime | receint |
| 04:15.24 | yos87 | shogunx: no, But I don't know how to use wget |
| 04:15.29 | grendal_prime | recent |
| 04:15.31 | grendal_prime | man wget |
| 04:15.35 | grendal_prime | its pretty simple really |
| 04:15.45 | shogunx | grendal_prime fair enough. |
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| 04:17.03 | shogunx | yos87 wget -m http://website should do it. |
| 04:17.04 | minimec | tansaku: and if you used 'aptitide' for a change. Maybe it works ;) |
| 04:17.34 | tansaku | aptitude is an alternative to apt-get? |
| 04:17.49 | dondelelcaro | tansaku: aptitude is what you should use instead of apt-get. |
| 04:18.05 | minimec | tansaku: Yes it is :) |
| 04:18.33 | tansaku | but presumably it won't help me repair the damage apt-get has caused? |
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| 04:19.05 | yos87 | shogunx: Where it will be saved, and how to choose the proxy? |
| 04:19.24 | nicem | hi all i am running debian unstable, it was working fine and suddenly when i booted the machine today it fails to load the ide modules... when i run it with init 1 it fails with a kernel panic.. saying that init has been killed... what might be the problem? |
| 04:19.26 | minimec | tansaku: Maybe not, but it will probably allow you to do some installs and removes ;) |
| 04:19.44 | tool | can someone please suggest what debian iso i should use to install from one partition to another? |
| 04:19.45 | nicem | is this a problem with the hardware? |
| 04:20.03 | shogunx | yos87 it will be saved in the directory where you ran wget, and any http proxy will happen externally from wget. |
| 04:20.16 | dondelelcaro | tool: any will work; you can just use tar, dd, or rsync to do the copy. |
| 04:20.57 | yos87 | shogunx: But the site blocked if he choose the defult one, Can I specify the proxy |
| 04:21.01 | tool | any will work? why are they shipped in sets of 14 then dondelelcaro ? |
| 04:21.24 | dondelelcaro | tool: if you're moving from one partition to the other, you've got all the packages that you need. |
| 04:21.59 | dondelelcaro | tool: the cds just contain all of the packages. Unless you're not going to have any network at all, you don't need them. If you have a decent network, get the netinst. If you don't, get the first two cds or the first dvd. |
| 04:22.10 | tool | dondelelcaro, i have ubuntu on this partition, i need to download a debian iso to boot onto other part |
| 04:22.28 | dondelelcaro | tool: uh... just use debootstrap in ubuntu to install Debian. |
| 04:23.03 | tool | uh.. really>? that sounds too easy |
| 04:23.19 | dondelelcaro | if that's too complex, then either 1) get the netinst if you've got a decent network 2) get the first cd/first two if you don't. |
| 04:23.35 | shogunx | yos87 not as an option to wget, afaik. i do not use proxies personally, so i would not know. |
| 04:23.52 | tool | this is just a laptop |
| 04:24.01 | tool | i just want to learn linux |
| 04:24.02 | dondelelcaro | tool: that matters not... |
| 04:24.07 | yos87 | shogunx: Thank you |
| 04:24.17 | gravity | hehe |
| 04:24.21 | gravity | dondelelcaro: Nice yoda :-) |
| 04:24.30 | tool | lmao, your too friggin cool dondelelcaro |
| 04:24.51 | gravity | tool: dondelelcaro knows what he's talking about. If you want to learn linux, listening to him is a good idea :-) |
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| 04:25.15 | tool | "that matters not" i can almost see you flipping your fluffy hair back and rattling your sabre when you say it |
| 04:25.44 | tool | i gotcha, i apreciate any help big and small |
| 04:26.02 | tool | lmao |
| 04:26.07 | tool | i'm just a tool |
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| 04:26.15 | hjf | hello folks. |
| 04:26.16 | grendal_prime | tool, your in the right place...i spent 2 hours trying to figure out how to install one frigging packages with suse today...Debian is the way to go. |
| 04:26.29 | grendal_prime | i could have built 3 deb systems in that amount of time |
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| 04:27.37 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: hell, you could have installed Debian on that box in that time... ;-) |
| 04:27.47 | dondelelcaro | s/installed/reinstalled/ |
| 04:28.02 | tool | i just want to learn all the command line stuff, set up some net servers that i can ssh into and make some extra money hosting webpages or something |
| 04:28.17 | grendal_prime | other tech, he insists on using it..he is some novell guy..its taking him forever to learn it.. |
| 04:28.21 | grendal_prime | now i know why |
| 04:28.22 | hjf | extra money .. good idea.. |
| 04:28.26 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: heh |
| 04:28.29 | grendal_prime | yast2...fkn joke man |
| 04:28.44 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: that's when you just switch the machine on him in a day, and he won't know the difference. |
| 04:29.05 | grendal_prime | dude ive thought about it |
| 04:29.06 | gravity | Ha! |
| 04:29.28 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: less thinking, more action! ;-) |
| 04:29.35 | liable | make a bash alias that substitutes yast for apt-get :) |
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| 04:29.45 | stoned | hi |
| 04:29.55 | shogunx | stoned if i only was... |
| 04:29.56 | hjf | hahaha... hey Suse is not too bad.. |
| 04:29.57 | stoned | I bought my first violin last night. I am going to install debian on it |
| 04:30.01 | tool | where and what are the most current stable debian distro or kernel or whatever its called |
| 04:30.05 | chungaroo | i accidently installed the sun JRE to the wrong directory, how do i uninstall or delete it? |
| 04:30.09 | tool | !distro |
| 04:30.09 | dpkg | distro is probably significa distribuion (english) |
| 04:30.15 | grendal_prime | ive been trying to get info on it from #suse, i dont care what anyone says. Its in a state of confussion. its a headack and they are only going to use it to its fullest potential if it makes them money |
| 04:30.18 | tool | !kernel |
| 04:30.20 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.16.2, prepatch: 2.6.17-rc1, snapshot: 2.6.17-rc1-git3, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.17-rc1-mm2 |
| 04:30.24 | hjf | chungaroo .. remove the direcotory .. |
| 04:30.27 | stoned | chungaroo, just delete the directory where you installed it |
| 04:30.29 | dondelelcaro | tool: on your local debian mirror; and it's etch. 2.6.8- or 2.4.27. |
| 04:30.37 | stoned | chungaroo, rm -rd /usr/java or whatever |
| 04:30.49 | tool | ok, cool, thank donde |
| 04:30.52 | stoned | !tell chungaroo about java-package |
| 04:30.56 | hjf | or .. if you installed the package .. |
| 04:31.07 | hjf | try to desinstall .. using the apt .. |
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| 04:31.23 | hjf | s/desinstall/remove |
| 04:31.25 | edgarin | hola |
| 04:31.29 | stoned | my violin is going to kick ass with debian |
| 04:31.31 | hjf | hola muxaxo ! |
| 04:31.32 | stoned | :D |
| 04:31.50 | gravity | Oh yeah, dondelelcaro, in case you weren't here earlier, be ready for lots of unstable users complaining about broken xorg tomorrow |
| 04:31.52 | stoned | I got debian linux stickers! local pc shop had some printed out' |
| 04:31.52 | edgarin | que pedos |
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| 04:32.00 | gravity | stoned: Cool :-) |
| 04:32.13 | tool | dondelelcaro, what about sarge3.1r1? |
| 04:32.17 | dondelelcaro | grendal_prime: heh. |
| 04:32.19 | gravity | I know a guy who's got an awesome Debian spiral sticker on his laptop. I want one too |
| 04:32.25 | dondelelcaro | tool: rrr.. sarge, not etch. |
| 04:32.39 | tool | ahhah |
| 04:32.43 | shogunx | gravity or a silkscreen even. |
| 04:32.44 | tool | heheh |
| 04:32.46 | hjf | gravity , here at brazil ..we have a mall to buy these things.. |
| 04:32.50 | gravity | shogunx: Totally |
| 04:32.52 | stoned | I didn't much like the spiral blue. I like the other one, 3-d burning red flaming genie circle thingy |
| 04:32.56 | stoned | spiral* |
| 04:32.59 | gravity | hjf: Debian stickers at the mall? |
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| 04:33.19 | stoned | I bought a few, they said money wouldn't go to debian, because it was thier sticker machine and paper :) |
| 04:33.24 | shogunx | hjf how much is rent there? :) |
| 04:33.33 | gravity | Heh, Debian is ok money-wise |
| 04:33.37 | hjf | e-commerce site .. www.linuxmall.com.br , sell some stickers.. and others.. |
| 04:33.37 | stoned | I only paid 1$ for 20 stickers |
| 04:33.48 | gravity | hjf: Cool |
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| 04:33.53 | hjf | yeah .. |
| 04:34.00 | chungaroo | apt-get can't find "java-package" |
| 04:34.03 | gravity | I do have a poster I got last year hanging in my bathroom |
| 04:34.07 | hjf | haahahha chungaroo |
| 04:34.08 | dondelelcaro | stoned: printed stickers or die cut ones? |
| 04:34.13 | gravity | scarynetworkguy: :-(((((( |
| 04:34.16 | hjf | chungaroo try to think man ! , |
| 04:34.19 | dondelelcaro | gravity: the genie bottles? |
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| 04:34.23 | gravity | dondelelcaro: Yep :-) |
| 04:34.25 | chungaroo | hfj...sigh! it's so hate |
| 04:34.28 | chungaroo | late* |
| 04:34.33 | chungaroo | case in point |
| 04:34.35 | stoned | dondelelcaro, they printed those out of misc images online. They have a local printing press/shop too so ... |
| 04:34.35 | gravity | dondelelcaro: I can think about the Universal OS while I shave in the morning |
| 04:34.39 | scarynetworkguy | gravity: Sorry. |
| 04:34.40 | dondelelcaro | gravity: heh |
| 04:34.42 | hjf | chungaroo .. try to : apt-cache search jre |
| 04:35.02 | stoned | chungaroo, you have to add contrib non-free to your sources.list I think. |
| 04:35.05 | dondelelcaro | stoned: ah, right; Yeah, I've been looking for some die cut/laser cut ones... someone at debconf will probably have them |
| 04:35.10 | chungaroo | stoned, how do i do that? |
| 04:35.47 | stoned | chungaroo, as root, nano /etc/apt/sources.list and then at the end of each line, add contrib non-free |
| 04:36.13 | stoned | chungaroo, so it looks like this deb http://blah.deb.blah./blah sarge main contrib non-free |
| 04:36.23 | stoned | substitute sarge for whatever you ahve |
| 04:36.46 | stoned | oh guys, there has to be an easier way |
| 04:36.54 | stoned | how does one search factoids db? |
| 04:37.51 | stoned | dondelelcaro, you must know this. How do I search all factoids held by dpkg |
| 04:37.52 | gravity | Badly |
| 04:37.53 | dondelelcaro | stoned: listkeys/listvals |
| 04:37.57 | stoned | thanks |
| 04:38.00 | gravity | Unless ubuntu beats me to it, which would rock |
| 04:38.07 | stoned | ugh buntututut |
| 04:38.12 | dondelelcaro | gravity: someone should probably resurect apt-setup and extend it |
| 04:38.27 | dondelelcaro | ideally making a udeb and a deb |
| 04:38.36 | stoned | good idea |
| 04:38.43 | stoned | I could do it, but I can't code :) |
| 04:38.49 | stoned | would* |
| 04:38.53 | gravity | darkfires: Yeah, I've thought about it |
| 04:38.56 | gravity | dondelelcaro: ^ |
| 04:39.00 | gravity | darkfires: Sorry, mistab |
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| 04:39.25 | hjf | ubuntu ? ,.. haha .. like that music : the roof , the roof .. the roof is on fire.. |
| 04:39.30 | dondelelcaro | gravity: yeah, so have I... I just have no time. |
| 04:39.38 | gravity | Right :-) |
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| 04:40.00 | gravity | I also want to make simple command to take a tarball with an autotoole'd build system and make a basic deb out of it |
| 04:40.08 | gravity | I may just do that in between sarge and etch |
| 04:40.16 | initard | i'm hoping debian isnt going to freeze like ubuntu has been |
| 04:40.23 | gravity | initard: It will sometime |
| 04:40.27 | gravity | initard: Debian has to release too |
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| 04:40.48 | initard | is there a way to get out of a freeze up without rebooting? |
| 04:41.03 | gravity | Oh... that kind of freeze :-) |
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| 04:41.07 | gravity | Sorry, totally misunderstood |
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| 04:41.19 | chungaroo | how do i logout of root when i'm in a terminal |
| 04:41.19 | gravity | initard: Depends on how the freeze happens. Are you running a GUI? |
| 04:41.22 | initard | like a winduhs freeze |
| 04:41.25 | stoned | man, in the past few years, sid has never broken on me, so I seriously doubt sarge will cause severe problems. of course apps will crash here and there, but for the most part, debian has been themost stable distro i've used, even in unstable branch |
| 04:41.32 | gravity | chungaroo: Type "exit" and hit enter, or just hit ctrl-d |
| 04:41.35 | initard | yeah, gui gravity |
| 04:41.44 | gravity | initard: Ok, does it happen when you run a 3d app? |
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| 04:41.51 | hjf | chungaroo .. -> just exit. |
| 04:41.54 | gravity | initard: Or just in general? |
| 04:41.59 | parsonsd | chungaroo: `logout`? |
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| 04:42.23 | initard | no, in ubuntu it tends to freeze sometimes when i'm running a shell command |
| 04:42.41 | gravity | initard: Wow, that's weird. Debian shouldn't do that |
| 04:42.48 | gravity | Of course, nor should ubuntu |
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| 04:43.03 | nok | I, im using debian kernel 2.6 , and when im connection my usb devices(hd) linux don't detect anything. |
| 04:43.12 | initard | hrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 04:43.28 | shogunx | initard that could be a hardware issue. |
| 04:43.29 | initard | is there a way to get around it without rebooting? |
| 04:43.29 | gravity | initard: Well, if it happens in Debian also, then we'll worry about it |
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| 04:44.13 | initard | shogunx, yeah maybe, i was writing to my sound card config file or something |
| 04:44.15 | iciclebox | if I use fvwm, do I also need a desktop environment like KDE? |
| 04:44.16 | initard | i forget |
| 04:44.56 | initard | i'm friggin tired yo's |
| 04:44.56 | liable | nok: whats dmesg say about it? this is a stock debian kernel? |
| 04:45.02 | shogunx | initard maybe even an overheat. do you get any kernel panic messages or anything? |
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| 04:45.16 | initard | shogunx, nope |
| 04:45.28 | nok | liable : Well im going to check exacly |
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| 04:46.07 | initard | it repeatedly happened, i was pasting commands someone was giving me to get my sc up and i had to reboot like four times before i gave up on it |
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| 04:46.48 | initard | so is there a way outta something like that withou rebooting? i tried ctr alt backspace c a delete and nothing |
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| 04:47.04 | initard | hard reboots |
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| 04:47.21 | iciclebox | if I use fvwm, do I also need a desktop environment like KDE? |
| 04:47.25 | shogunx | initard i would check /var/log/messages after it has to be rebooted for any clues. |
| 04:47.32 | stoned | shogunx, no |
| 04:47.39 | stoned | oops |
| 04:47.43 | stoned | iciclebox, no |
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| 04:47.58 | initard | takin note of that |
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| 04:48.15 | iciclebox | thanks, stoned |
| 04:48.18 | minimec | iciclebox: You woun't need the environment, but if you use some KDE Apps, a lot of KDE stuff will be installed. |
| 04:48.34 | stoned | iciclebox, fvwm is a window manager, it essentially does the same thing kde does. kde is too much stuff, while fvWM(window manager) is all you really need. There are tons of ther window managers. |
| 04:48.35 | lith | anyone think of a reason why if i was to ping my ip address it works fine, but if i ping the dns name of my server its really slow? like www.server.com pings really slow (not ms time, but the time it takes to actually begin sending packets) but the ip to the same server is quick |
| 04:48.38 | metaperl | I have a Debian machine and a windows machine hooked up to the same router. What do I have to do on the Debian machine to enable the windows machine to ssh into the Debian machine? the router is a netgear |
| 04:48.43 | lith | same thing with ftp... if i ftp to the ip address its quick, but if i go to the name ftp.server.com its slower than crap |
| 04:48.48 | iciclebox | I always thought kde wasn't a window manager |
| 04:48.49 | stoned | iciclebox, kde's window manager is called kwin |
| 04:48.54 | lith | er actually the last thing is wrong... ftp is still slow |
| 04:48.58 | lith | forgive me |
| 04:49.02 | stoned | iciclebox, kde stands for K! Desktop Env. |
| 04:49.09 | stoned | its not just a window manager, its tons of other stuff |
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| 04:49.27 | iciclebox | so I apt-get install fvwm, then restart X? |
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| 04:49.42 | shogunx | lith sounds like heavy latency to or load on the dns server you are using. |
| 04:49.49 | hjf | no .. u need to change the xinitrc .. |
| 04:50.02 | stoned | iciclebox, depending on if you have a desktop manager or not. If not, you might have to modify some files, because startx may lauch some prev. window manager installed |
| 04:50.11 | hjf | iciclebox -> vi /home/<r_user>/.xinitrc |
| 04:50.18 | hjf | exec fvwm |
| 04:50.22 | hjf | wq! |
| 04:50.34 | hjf | chmod +x .xinitrc |
| 04:50.40 | hjf | i guess that is it. |
| 04:50.42 | minimec | iciclebox: If you have a login-manager installed, you can try that. |
| 04:50.46 | lith | shogunx: hmm try pinging my dns server? |
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| 04:51.17 | iciclebox | thanks guys |
| 04:51.24 | hjf | =) |
| 04:51.28 | stoned | hjf, echo "exec fvwm" >~/.xinitrc && chmod a+x .xinitrc |
| 04:51.40 | stoned | no need to spam with multiple lines |
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| 04:51.50 | hjf | stoned ... uuuu ! sorry Man, |
| 04:51.52 | shogunx | lith for minimum latency to your dns server, apt-get install bind9 and echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:52.04 | Nopalin | anybody know how can i install nachOS? |
| 04:52.06 | metaperl | I have a Debian machine and a windows machine hooked up to the same router. What do I have to do on the Debian machine to enable the windows machine to ssh into the Debian machine? the router is a netgear. the debian box is at 192.168.0.3 and I can ping it from the windows machine but I cannot ssh to it... connection is refused |
| 04:52.16 | nok | liabe: can you come in #flood please. |
| 04:52.26 | feross | wth is going on? ...anyone else notice internettrafficreport.com all the latency? |
| 04:52.27 | nok | join #flood |
| 04:52.39 | shogunx | metaperl is sshd running? ps -e | grep sshd |
| 04:52.59 | metaperl | shogunx: I doubt it is... how would I start it? |
| 04:53.00 | hjf | metaperl .. after it .. try to look the sshd_config .. |
| 04:53.05 | nok | oops |
| 04:53.10 | feross | metaperl: apt-get install ssh then get putty on the windows machine and voila |
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| 04:53.41 | shogunx | metaperl hjf is correct, and after that, to start it, /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 04:53.42 | stoned | metaperl, ps auxf | grep sshd . if not running, /etc/init.d/ssh start |
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| 04:54.09 | metaperl | stoned: oh ok |
| 04:54.12 | stoned | metaperl, if that doesn't work, apt-get install ssh |
| 04:54.27 | nok | I, im using debian kernel 2.6 , and when im connection my usb devices(hd) linux don't detect anything. |
| 04:54.52 | shogunx | nok what does lsusb say? |
| 04:54.56 | liable | nok: sorry, i missed you, paste dmesg bits in #flood |
| 04:55.10 | initard | will someone please recomend a good gui ftp program, i just wanna start this iso and crash |
| 04:55.25 | shogunx | initard gftp |
| 04:55.30 | nok | shogunx:nothing at all??? |
| 04:55.32 | hjf | initard -> kftp ? |
| 04:55.37 | nok | liable:thanks |
| 04:55.43 | initard | ok, thanks |
| 04:55.46 | yos87 | I have problem , when I try to open the cdrom, I have error: unable to mount the selected volum. the volum is pobably in a format that cannot be mounted. |
| 04:55.56 | stoned | metaperl, you can run some of your X applications on windows, if you enable X11Forwarding on sshd on debian, and get Xming *or any other Xserver for windows*, and use putty to get forowarded ssh traffic, etc. If you have enough windows resoruces, decent pc, you can work just like you were natively. Although some apps will joojoo out |
| 04:55.58 | hjf | kftp ? exist ? hahha .. really dont know.. |
| 04:55.58 | yos87 | I cannot mount any thing or install any package |
| 04:56.02 | initard | i'm on gnome so i'm guessing gftp will work well |
| 04:56.05 | shogunx | nok looks like perhpas usb support is not enabled in your kernel. |
| 04:56.38 | stoned | does anyone ever use modconf to just simply browse around the kernel modules and see what is there? or am I just really stoned and have nothing to do? |
| 04:56.50 | hjf | uhuhuuh.. u need to compile a newwwwww kernel brother ... good luck .. haha |
| 04:56.59 | nok | shogunx:But it's trying to start on boot, but it's failing??? should I try to unconnect my device on boot??? |
| 04:57.25 | yos87 | dmesg | tail: hdc: staus error, hdc status error |
| 04:57.25 | grendal_prime | suse is fkn hopless i swear |
| 04:57.35 | metaperl | ok, regarding accepting ssh login requests... ps -e | grep ssh shows ssh-agent but no sshd after type /etc/init.d/ssh start ... I guess something in sshd_config needs to be set? |
| 04:57.45 | initard | shoguns, linux has the sickest screesaver doood |
| 04:57.47 | parsonsd | wheeee -- so happy. i now have a named that can resolve itself! |
| 04:57.48 | BlackJudas | Can anyone help me debug some strange behaviour with (i assume) my pci bus? |
| 04:57.55 | shogunx | nok dmesg | grep usb are there any errors? |
| 04:58.18 | initard | errr stoned |
| 04:58.19 | hjf | parsonsd congratulations.. |
| 04:58.22 | BlackJudas | Probably irq sharing or some such :/ I dunno, my system seems to lag on all pci bus access... |
| 04:58.43 | shogunx | parsonsd that is nice, isn't it? |
| 04:58.48 | grendal_prime | the people in #suse say that the config files for yast2 are hidden. (they dont exactly know why) but there ok with that because it does what they want and thats enough.. |
| 04:58.49 | BlackJudas | ie... i ping a local ip... seq 1 - 12 works... lags out for 7... then goes well for 11 and lags out for 7... |
| 04:58.58 | parsonsd | hjf -- i realised a week ago that my nameserver could not resolve itself. |
| 04:59.07 | parsonsd | shogunx -- yep. very nice |
| 04:59.22 | grendal_prime | i guess thats untel it doesnt..and then it they will be not ok with that |
| 04:59.23 | metaperl | apt-get install openssh-server was necessary |
| 04:59.31 | BlackJudas | then my hard drive is super slow... all of it is super slow... the load avg hovers over 1.00 on menial tasks... what can I try/check to fix this? |
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| 04:59.40 | BlackJudas | btw.. it's a p3 550 with kernel 2.6.16 |
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| 04:59.59 | hjf | bye |
| 05:00.04 | initard | is this channel very competitive with other distro channels? |
| 05:00.18 | liable | what? |
| 05:00.19 | grendal_prime | damn fukn strait |
| 05:00.24 | initard | lmao |
| 05:00.28 | shogunx | initard what, like "you suck, we rule?" |
| 05:00.31 | Nopalin | any body have used nachOS? |
| 05:00.34 | grendal_prime | we especially hate the assholes in #suse |
| 05:00.40 | nok | liable:? |
| 05:00.42 | metaperl | IM IN!!!!!! |
| 05:00.46 | metaperl | it workED!!!!!!! |
| 05:00.48 | metaperl | w00t! |
| 05:00.49 | parsonsd | Nopalin, no -- but i have nacho cheese in the fridge |
| 05:00.51 | initard | hell yes, you better be, your the only ones keepin it free right? |
| 05:00.57 | metaperl | thanks for all the help!! |
| 05:00.58 | marx | you're "IN" ? |
| 05:01.02 | marx | ah |
| 05:01.04 | marx | cool |
| 05:01.09 | liable | nok: same kernel as yesterday? |
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| 05:01.15 | metaperl | i ssh'ed from my windows box to my Debian box both on the same router! |
| 05:01.16 | Nopalin | parsonsd, lol, mexican food |
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| 05:02.08 | yos87 | shogunx: can you help me with this trouble? |
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| 05:02.27 | shogunx | yos87 please repeat the problem? |
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| 05:03.34 | shogunx | yos87 the usb problem? what did dmesg | grep usb say? |
| 05:04.20 | yos87 | shogunx: when I try to open the cdrom, I have error: unable to mount the selected volum. the volum is pobably in a format that cannot be mounted. I cannot mount any thing also, |
| 05:04.36 | yos87 | shogunx: no output for dmesg | grep usb |
| 05:05.01 | yos87 | shogunx: seems he take the command |
| 05:05.14 | yos87 | shogunx: not usb, laptop cdrom |
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| 05:05.54 | chungaroo | i can't get my xmms to play.. it tells me to check that the souncard is configed properly |
| 05:05.56 | shogunx | yos87 ok, on the usb, please modprobe usbcore , then tail /var/log/messages to see if anything happened. |
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| 05:06.51 | shogunx | yos87 on the cdrom... try mounting a different cd. |
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| 05:07.29 | chungaroo | ? |
| 05:08.04 | chungaroo | i can't get my xmms to play.. it tells me to check that the souncard is configed properly |
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| 05:08.10 | chungaroo | anyone? |
| 05:08.52 | shogunx | chungaroo are you using a debian kernel, if so, which one? |
| 05:09.01 | liable | chungaroo: have you checked to see what output its using? |
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| 05:09.59 | chungaroo | i'm using kernel 2.6 |
| 05:10.19 | shogunx | chungaroo does lsmod | grep sound give you any output? |
| 05:10.29 | feross | Hmm XO is down .. crap |
| 05:10.42 | chungaroo | yeah |
| 05:10.54 | chungaroo | soundcore 9824 4 snd,i810_audio |
| 05:11.02 | yos87 | shogunx: I try to mount 100 cd's, and I reconfigure all dpkg, and cd is working fine with booting, messages in var/log show many errors |
| 05:11.09 | shogunx | chungaroo does aumix do anything? |
| 05:11.27 | chungaroo | what's aumix? |
| 05:11.37 | shogunx | yos87 please paste the errors in #paste |
| 05:11.43 | yos87 | shogunx: up to now I'm dragging and it's not finsish |
| 05:11.51 | liable | chungaroo: install alsa-base alsa-utils and then run alsaconf |
| 05:11.55 | shogunx | chungaroo AUdio MIXer |
| 05:12.13 | yos87 | shogunx: that is on the laptop? |
| 05:12.14 | liable | chungaroo: you are using oss atm |
| 05:12.15 | yos87 | no here |
| 05:12.18 | Stevie | Automatic User Mind Internal eXtractor |
| 05:12.26 | yos87 | I cannot install xchat because of this problem |
| 05:13.02 | yos87 | shogunx: but mostly hdc error, hdc error, hdc error, hdc error, hdc error |
| 05:13.08 | shogunx | yos87 without the error messages, there is not much i can do... is a new laptop? |
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| 05:13.26 | yos87 | shogunx: yes new |
| 05:13.33 | sil3nt | hi everyone |
| 05:13.42 | shogunx | yos87 perhaps is has sata? |
| 05:14.05 | sil3nt | I met a problem |
| 05:14.10 | yos87 | but it was working |
| 05:14.13 | chungaroo | how do i get my FN key to work on my laptop? |
| 05:14.14 | yos87 | not sate, IDE |
| 05:14.20 | shogunx | Stevie :) |
| 05:14.29 | liable | chungaroo: depends on the laptop |
| 05:14.59 | chungaroo | liable..i'm still not getting anything from xmms |
| 05:15.08 | chungaroo | liable..it can't open my sound or something |
| 05:15.09 | liable | chungaroo: did you run alsaconf? |
| 05:15.14 | chungaroo | liable, yeah |
| 05:15.27 | liable | chungaroo: is snd-pcm-oss loaded (lsmod) |
| 05:15.39 | liable | chungaroo: check the output its using |
| 05:15.48 | liable | chungaroo: set it to alsa |
| 05:15.56 | yos87 | shogunx: wait little |
| 05:16.03 | chungaroo | i set it to also, how do i check the output? |
| 05:16.08 | chungaroo | alsa* |
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| 05:16.12 | shogunx | yos87 i'm pondering... and not sure what to tell you. |
| 05:16.20 | liable | its in the preferences menu thing |
| 05:16.39 | chungaroo | done |
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| 05:17.03 | stoned | hey does anyone know any good 3d FPS games in debian that are free? |
| 05:17.14 | stoned | I keep using diff keywords in apt cashe search but nothing is coming up |
| 05:17.15 | lith | I just ran nmap on my server and it says that my smtp port is being "filtered" I havnt made any changes to my firewall,,, it shouldnt be filtered on port 25... any ideas? |
| 05:17.26 | chungaroo | liable, i tried oss and it works! |
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| 05:17.29 | chungaroo | thanks anyways |
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| 05:17.58 | shogunx | yos87 sounds like the kernel does not know what to do to access the cdrom... which i have not seen from new hardware unless its sata. |
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| 05:18.09 | lokkju | when compiling, is it CFLAGS or CPPFLAGS that you set for telling include <*.h> where to look? |
| 05:18.31 | shogunx | yos87 is the cdrom a burner also? and connected via ide-scsi emulation? |
| 05:18.40 | shogunx | lith iptables -L |
| 05:19.18 | shogunx | yos87 if so, try changing /etc/fstab to show /dev/scd0 instead of /dev/hdc |
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| 05:20.16 | lith | thanks sho |
| 05:20.28 | chungaroo | i have a dell inspiron, anyone know how to get the FN key working? |
| 05:20.37 | chungaroo | it worked automatically in ubuntu.. |
| 05:20.50 | renewbie | hi, while installing deb I did not specify SWAP space, can I specify it now? |
| 05:21.08 | renewbie | now that I have installed it already and running everything on it.. |
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| 05:21.40 | shogunx | renewbie is there free space on your hard drive for swap? |
| 05:21.45 | renewbie | yes |
| 05:21.50 | renewbie | about 2G |
| 05:22.05 | shogunx | renewbie in a partition or just free space? |
| 05:22.13 | renewbie | shogunx, just free space |
| 05:22.17 | renewbie | unused |
| 05:22.28 | chungaroo | i have a dell inspiron, anyone know how to get the FN key working? |
| 05:22.29 | renewbie | not in partition |
| 05:22.34 | chungaroo | don't mean to be a noob... |
| 05:22.46 | liable | !laptop |
| 05:22.46 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 05:22.49 | liable | chungaroo: ^^ |
| 05:23.03 | shogunx | renewbie hmm... you will have to boot from a livecd, and run gparted or similar to make a partition in the partition table. |
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| 05:23.15 | chungaroo | liable, thanks! =] |
| 05:23.22 | liable | read others experience on how to get it to wotk in debian, if ubuntu can do it, its doable, you prolly just need modules and a script |
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| 05:23.35 | renewbie | shogunx, will ubuntu live do? |
| 05:23.40 | shogunx | renewbie i think... elder wizards... munking with a partition table in use is BAAAAD, correct? |
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| 05:23.58 | renewbie | yep |
| 05:23.59 | shogunx | renewbie if it has parted or gparted on it, yes. |
| 05:24.13 | renewbie | shogunx, hope it has |
| 05:24.26 | shogunx | renewbie if not, knoppix does. |
| 05:24.34 | cafuego | shogunx: No, not bad. Just won't be seen by the kernel until rebooted. |
| 05:24.47 | renewbie | umm... yes I have knoppix, 4 i guess |
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| 05:25.25 | cafuego | renewbie: Yes, Ubuntu Live has gparted. |
| 05:25.38 | renewbie | thats a good news |
| 05:26.04 | shogunx | cafuego so renewbie can parted or gparted himself some swap, reboot, mkswap /dev/partition, and swapon -a? |
| 05:26.09 | Stevie | I misread that as 'Ubuntu Live has parted' |
| 05:26.14 | Stevie | as in being gone forever |
| 05:26.21 | Stevie | and I agreed with renewbie's statement :D |
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| 05:26.35 | plasmoduck | hi |
| 05:26.40 | plasmoduck | [*] Creating Menu, please wait. |
| 05:26.41 | liable | having a toss? |
| 05:26.41 | plasmoduck | This needs the curses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work. |
| 05:26.45 | plasmoduck | whats the command to get that file? |
| 05:27.00 | yos87 | shogunx: it was working before, It's dvd writer, |
| 05:27.00 | plasmoduck | whats the name o the curses library? |
| 05:27.03 | liable | plasmoduck: install libncurses5-dev |
| 05:27.04 | Stevie | apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 05:27.32 | plasmoduck | thanks |
| 05:27.37 | shogunx | yos87 and it just stopped working? |
| 05:28.33 | renewbie | ooh and thanks all hope I will be able to see you all agian from this same system.. :) |
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| 05:30.41 | sparcmoz | i cannot either remove or reinstall package gconf2 because there is an error in /usr/sbin/update-gconf-defaults which is used by the postinstall scripts |
| 05:31.02 | yos87 | shogunx: yes |
| 05:31.21 | yos87 | shogunx: in et/fstab, what to do? |
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| 05:32.07 | shogunx | yos87 change /dev/hdc to /dev/scd0 |
| 05:33.13 | strayhikari | Hello, linux noob with a couple questions, having trouble setting up wireless networking, anybody that can help? |
| 05:33.23 | shogunx | yos87 if it still does not work ,revert to /dev/hdc there, and dmesg | grep -C 5 ide-scsi |
| 05:33.42 | shogunx | strayhikari shoot. |
| 05:33.46 | strayhikari | ok |
| 05:33.58 | strayhikari | I have a usb b type adapter |
| 05:34.12 | yos87 | shogunx: the same thing |
| 05:34.18 | strayhikari | the driver is installed, and it appears to be running, it shows up when I type lsusb |
| 05:34.32 | strayhikari | how do I add the device to the network manager? |
| 05:35.04 | strayhikari | also wondering if there was some software taht you could recommend for setting up network names/encryption keys etc |
| 05:35.10 | yos87 | shogunx: output is : 0 |
| 05:35.10 | pagey007 | mmm |
| 05:35.11 | shogunx | yos87 does dmesg | grep -C 5 ide-scsi or dmesg | grep -C 5 cdrom give you anything interesting? |
| 05:35.35 | shogunx | yos87 did oyu change kernels from the default one you installed? |
| 05:35.38 | yos87 | shogunx: cdrom is : 1 |
| 05:36.07 | yos87 | shogunx: i don't really if I change it or not |
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| 05:37.20 | shogunx | strayhikari ok... iwconfig is what you need to set parameters like the wep from the last question. |
| 05:37.38 | shogunx | strayhikari man iwconfig will give you more info. |
| 05:37.47 | strayhikari | ok |
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| 05:38.10 | strayhikari | sorry if my questions are simple, I'm new to linux >_< |
| 05:38.18 | shogunx | strayhikari it shows up in lsusb. great. is the kernel module loaded for it? |
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| 05:38.52 | strayhikari | Shogunx: not sure, what shoudl I look for in the lsmod post? |
| 05:39.14 | shogunx | strayhikari orinoco, hermes, aironet, or the like. |
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| 05:39.38 | shogunx | yos87 i'm stumped without the error messages. |
| 05:40.15 | shogunx | strayhikari do you know what chipset it has? |
| 05:40.43 | strayhikari | Shogunux: the driver is :4110 NetGear, Inc. MA111 WiFi (v1) |
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| 05:40.57 | strayhikari | Should I post the lsmod post in #flood? |
| 05:41.12 | shogunx | strayhikari please... thats a prismIII chipset, iirc. |
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| 05:41.19 | strayhikari | that sounds right! |
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| 05:41.22 | strayhikari | one sec |
| 05:41.28 | sil3nt | very sad, I can not use my gnome for the modem-applet !!! |
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| 05:41.35 | ben32167 | hello |
| 05:41.40 | sanxiyn | hi |
| 05:41.43 | lekvar | where's the right place to submit a possible tip about this? |
| 05:41.51 | ben32167 | i have a keyboard problem |
| 05:42.05 | sil3nt | who can help me ? |
| 05:42.08 | ben32167 | how can i configure it? |
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| 05:42.54 | shogunx | strayhikari i guess its a long lsmod list, as i got strayhikari has quit (Excess Flood) |
| 05:42.57 | lekvar | Can I make the installer tell me what it has in mind by "standard system" in the software selection screen? |
| 05:43.40 | strayhikari | Shogunx: ya |
| 05:43.47 | shogunx | strayhikari there is an easier way... iwconfig should tell us if it sees a wireless card. |
| 05:43.48 | strayhikari | Shogunx: Did it get through? |
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| 05:43.57 | shogunx | strayhikari nope |
| 05:44.18 | sanxiyn | lekvar: Those with Priority: Standard, IIRC. |
| 05:44.21 | strayhikari | lo no wireless extensions. |
| 05:44.21 | strayhikari | eth0 no wireless extensions. |
| 05:44.21 | strayhikari | sit0 no wireless extensions. |
| 05:44.27 | strayhikari | tahts from iwconfig |
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| 05:45.08 | lekvar | sanxiyn: Oh no! (gasps at the impending bloat) |
| 05:45.18 | sanxiyn | lekvar: Why? It's pretty small. |
| 05:45.52 | sanxiyn | lekvar: It includes whois, telnet, finger, host, mail, file, ftp, less, strace etc. |
| 05:46.12 | sanxiyn | No X, that's certain. |
| 05:46.26 | shogunx | hmm... strayhikari i have that same ma111 right here, tho i have not played with it yet. |
| 05:46.53 | shogunx | strayhikari for most prism chips, i use hostap. |
| 05:47.11 | strayhikari | ok, how should I install/use hostap? |
| 05:47.32 | shogunx | strayhikari thats the thing... nobody has gotten that one working with hostap yet. |
| 05:47.44 | shogunx | strayhikari though orinoco might work. |
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| 05:47.45 | lekvar | sanxiyn: okay i'll chance it. especially now that ive found how to make a 2.6 based install work |
| 05:48.05 | strayhikari | ok, can I look that up in the package manager? |
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| 05:48.18 | shogunx | strayhikari just modprobe orinoco. |
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| 05:48.24 | Rug | Howdy all |
| 05:48.25 | strayhikari | ok |
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| 05:48.40 | lekvar | we shall soon see if i made var big enough |
| 05:48.46 | shogunx | strayhikari now iwconfig again. |
| 05:48.47 | GullyFoyle | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:48.54 | strayhikari | ok attempting |
| 05:49.21 | strayhikari | still nothing under iwconfig |
| 05:49.40 | strayhikari | although orinoco and hermes are now running under lsmod |
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| 05:49.49 | Rug | I am haveing trouble removing/reinstalling apache apt-get remove isn't doing the trick. What other options are there? |
| 05:49.52 | deadcat_ | is there a way to change the bgcolor of a website via firefox? like use a diff stylesheet? or something |
| 05:50.11 | jm_ | deadcat_: yes |
| 05:50.21 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: modules can load, you sure the card is supported? |
| 05:50.26 | deadcat_ | jm_: how so? plugin? |
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| 05:50.49 | lekvar | I had to manually run /sbin/cardmgr to get the installer to work right, once I reached a point where it was available. I also modprobed in pcmcia, pcmcia_cs, and orinoco_cs, but I don't know if that part was necessary. |
| 05:50.53 | strayhikari | the driver is running, this is off a clean install so apparently it was detected ok |
| 05:51.00 | shogunx | deadcat_ i tried to get that card working with hostap a few months ago to no avail. |
| 05:51.17 | deadcat_ | shogunx: what card/chipset? |
| 05:51.28 | strayhikari | yikes, so basically this card is a dead end? |
| 05:51.41 | shogunx | deadcat_ its a usb based prismIII netgear ma111 |
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| 05:51.54 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:51.54 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:51.54 | deadcat_ | shogunx: you have to use linux-wlan-ng |
| 05:52.02 | deadcat_ | shogunx: 802.11b right? |
| 05:52.03 | tarzeau | !links2 |
| 05:52.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, links2 is [links with javascript and graphics] can be found at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~clock/twibright/links/ and debs can be found in deb http://mirrorlynx.com/people/dan/debian unstable/ and source in deb-src http://mirrorlynx.com/people/dan/debian unstable/ |
| 05:52.10 | strayhikari | yes Deadcat! |
| 05:52.16 | tarzeau | dpkg forget links2 |
| 05:52.17 | dpkg | tarzeau: i forgot links2 |
| 05:52.17 | deadcat_ | !compile linux-wlan |
| 05:52.18 | sanxiyn | deadcat_: You edit userContent.css. |
| 05:52.19 | shogunx | strayhikari not a dead end yet, as deadcat_ comes through:) |
| 05:52.20 | jm_ | deadcat_: uhh now I have to find it |
| 05:52.22 | deadcat_ | !compile linux-wlan-ng |
| 05:52.38 | strayhikari | ok attempting Deadcat |
| 05:52.48 | tarzeau | dpkg: links2 is a text and graphics browser with https and javascript. http://packages.debian.org/links2 |
| 05:52.48 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 05:52.59 | shogunx | deadcat_ the thing with the prism chipsets is you can use hostap to make access points out of them, which is why i even tried. |
| 05:53.01 | sanxiyn | deadcat_: ~/.mozilla/firefox/blah/chrome |
| 05:53.02 | deadcat_ | sanxiyn: i saw karsten did it with a click at a meeting. but he was using galeon or something |
| 05:53.09 | lekvar | tarzeau: Does it actually do https now? It didn't before IIRC. |
| 05:53.09 | sanxiyn | deadcat_: Aha. |
| 05:53.16 | deadcat_ | shogunx: NOT with usb. |
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| 05:53.22 | tarzeau | lekvar: yes it does now. i've cleared up the licensing finally with mikulas |
| 05:53.32 | strayhikari | Deadcat/Shogunx: Should I install those using hte package manager? |
| 05:53.33 | deadcat_ | !compile linuxwlan |
| 05:53.34 | shogunx | deadcat_ alas, i found that out the hard way. |
| 05:53.40 | lekvar | oh good... i don't need to compile my own any more |
| 05:53.48 | lekvar | tarzeau: which is to say, thanks! |
| 05:53.49 | tarzeau | lekvar: give me karma points ;) |
| 05:53.55 | lekvar | tarzeau++ |
| 05:53.55 | shogunx | deadcat_ good thing the card was free. |
| 05:53.59 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: i am trying to make the bot show the factoid i entered. |
| 05:54.09 | lekvar | (can i give you more?) |
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| 05:54.16 | lekvar | tarzeau++ |
| 05:54.17 | strayhikari | ok |
| 05:54.25 | tarzeau | lekvar: !tarzeau++ , i'm not sure it was disabled long ago |
| 05:54.33 | lekvar | !tarzeau++ |
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| 05:54.39 | tarzeau | !karma |
| 05:54.39 | dpkg | tarzeau has karma of 7 |
| 05:54.42 | lekvar | !tarzeau++ |
| 05:54.43 | deadcat_ | !compile wlan-ng |
| 05:54.47 | dpkg | well, compile wlan-ng is reply "1) apt-get install build-essential kernel-headers-`uname -r` 2) cd /lib/modules/`uname -r` ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` source && ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers-`uname -r` build 3) download linux-wlan-ng-xxx.tar.gz, untar it, cd to it, make config, make all, make install, update-modules" |
| 05:54.47 | jski23 | does anyone know of a good tutorial to install ruby on rails? |
| 05:54.50 | tarzeau | lekvar: nope forget it, it's not working |
| 05:54.53 | lekvar | heh |
| 05:54.55 | strayhikari | package manager is installing it now |
| 05:54.58 | tarzeau | lekvar: but have you installed popularity-contest? |
| 05:55.07 | tarzeau | jski23: googled yet for it? |
| 05:55.13 | lekvar | tarzeau: no i skipped that but i guess i could add it later |
| 05:55.22 | tarzeau | lekvar: please install it.. |
| 05:55.26 | lekvar | okey |
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| 05:55.29 | tarzeau | lekvar: it can do http submission |
| 05:55.29 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: then i recommmend you use this script when you get the driver compiled: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/home/deadcat/bin/prism2-wifi |
| 05:55.31 | liable | deadcat_: whats the other package i need than xcompmgr? |
| 05:55.37 | jski23 | yeah, but it moves so fast. i might have to bight the bullet and just try and see what happens |
| 05:55.39 | deadcat_ | liable: transset |
| 05:55.44 | liable | deadcat_: ta :) |
| 05:55.56 | tarzeau | lekvar: the only things i do on my own these days are lame and mplayer... |
| 05:55.58 | deadcat_ | liable: this was what i use: xcompmgr -fFC -t -1.0 -l 1.0 -r 5.0 -o 0.4 -D 7.0 -O 0.09 -I 0.07 & |
| 05:56.02 | shogunx | deadcat_ thanx, btw. |
| 05:56.23 | liable | deadcat_: where do you set that? xorg.conf? |
| 05:56.46 | deadcat_ | shogunx: just to let you know the wireless b card wont do anything except client mode and wep. |
| 05:56.58 | deadcat_ | liable: in your .xsession or .xinitrc, thats client side. |
| 05:57.04 | liable | ok |
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| 05:57.27 | deadcat_ | liable: i am just waiting for xgl now. xcompmgr is kinna weird for me. |
| 05:57.47 | strayhikari | Deadcat: What is the next step once linux-wlan-ng is installed? |
| 05:58.04 | shogunx | deadcat_ glad i stocked up on pci and pcmcia prismII's. |
| 05:58.07 | lekvar | tarzeau: if only i could get sound working on my debian machine :( it's not for lack of trying |
| 05:58.12 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: just run that script and try to connect to an AP |
| 05:58.20 | strayhikari | ok |
| 05:58.23 | tarzeau | lekvar: which kernel? alsa? soundcard? |
| 05:58.27 | liable | deadcat_: i just like the mouse moving to the next workspace bit |
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| 05:58.31 | deadcat_ | shogunx: ya. i have 1 of each. (= |
| 05:58.35 | tarzeau | lekvar: i've had to use alsa from experimental. |
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| 05:59.17 | shogunx | deadcat_ firmware issue on the usb devices? |
| 05:59.31 | deadcat_ | shogunx: yes. |
| 05:59.45 | shogunx | deadcat_ makes sense. |
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| 05:59.53 | plasmoduck | hmm |
| 05:59.59 | plasmoduck | somethings up with my psybnc |
| 05:59.59 | lekvar | tarzeau: tp 600e... accounts of *precisely* which sound hardware is in it, which of that hardware to use, what drivers can operate it, and how to bring about a state where that haqppens... differ... let alone how to bring the system into a state where such efforts are effective |
| 06:00.03 | plasmoduck | it's like it dies |
| 06:00.05 | sanxiyn | Have X11R7 entered unstable already? |
| 06:00.09 | plasmoduck | psyBNC2.3.2-7-cBtITLdDMSNpE started (PID 2170) |
| 06:00.09 | plasmoduck | jsz@alphanode:~/psybnc$ kill 2170 |
| 06:00.09 | plasmoduck | -bash: kill: (2170) - No such process |
| 06:00.22 | tarzeau | lekvar: never heard of that soundcard, sorry. need to catch the train... |
| 06:00.25 | deadcat_ | shogunx: i use zd1211 chipset usb on my ibook. it can do ad-hoc, managed, master, monitor (= b/g too hehe. |
| 06:00.28 | strayhikari | Deadcat: When I type sudo ./prism2-wifi at the terminal (I saved a copy of it to my home directory) it says command not found |
| 06:00.31 | lekvar | tarzeau: thinkpad... old thinkpad... |
| 06:00.57 | shogunx | deadcat_ and prism2_srec probably does squat, eh? |
| 06:00.57 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: change to 700. you just run ./prism2-wifi any or something. the script already has sudo inside. |
| 06:00.59 | streuner_ | sanxiyn: why? |
| 06:01.10 | sanxiyn | streuner_: ? |
| 06:01.14 | strayhikari | kk |
| 06:01.20 | deadcat_ | shogunx: does squat to what? |
| 06:01.21 | plasmoduck | ? |
| 06:01.25 | tarzeau | !kk |
| 06:01.25 | dpkg | well, kk is ANAL! |
| 06:01.32 | shogunx | deadcat_ those chips... |
| 06:01.38 | deadcat_ | oh.. ya |
| 06:02.15 | shogunx | deadcat_ zd1211... i'll keep that in mind. thanx. |
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| 06:03.08 | strayhikari | Deadcat: It says permission is denied, when I try to run in a root terminal as well as current user |
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| 06:03.40 | torc | etch beta2 debian-installer for amd64 provides pure64 environment? |
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| 06:03.58 | jm_ | deadcat_: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1386/ not sure if this is the one I noticed people talking about previously |
| 06:03.59 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: you have sudo setup for the user right? |
| 06:04.18 | tr1kz | strayhikari: terminal -> su root -> [password]?? |
| 06:04.25 | shogunx | strayhikari chmod 755 it |
| 06:04.35 | deadcat_ | jm_: thanks. thats what i am looking for. fucking "24" the series forum is hurting my eyes (= |
| 06:04.57 | jm_ | deadcat_: yeah some pages are really insane |
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| 06:05.15 | deadcat_ | jm_: ya. the non-professional ones. )= |
| 06:05.20 | strayhikari | Ok 755 worked thanks a bunch |
| 06:05.36 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: the script can be own by you. |
| 06:06.14 | afox | is there a way to forcefully uninstall a debian package that has status half-installed? |
| 06:06.22 | strayhikari | ok |
| 06:06.32 | deadcat_ | afox: dpkg -P packagename MIGHT do it |
| 06:07.31 | strayhikari | It looks like I need to add the prism module is it just, mod prism2_usb ? |
| 06:07.51 | jm_ | deadcat_: and found this also http://olab.free.fr/OLab/ |
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| 06:08.05 | jm_ | deadcat_: let me know which one works best :P |
| 06:08.26 | afox | Tried this first; |
| 06:08.28 | afox | dpkg --remove storcon |
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| 06:08.29 | afox | dpkg: error processing storcon (--remove): |
| 06:08.29 | afox | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.29 | afox | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.29 | afox | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 06:08.29 | afox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:09.59 | afox | oops, didn't read the "do not paste in this channel" bit |
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| 06:10.48 | jm_ | deadcat_: more stuff https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=563 |
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| 06:11.03 | liable | meh, i cant remember wtf i did to get the workspace thing working.. :( |
| 06:11.28 | dondelelcaro | afox: reinstall the package in question before you try to remove it. |
| 06:11.35 | afox | If I try dpkg --force-all --remove pkgname, the post-removal script is failing, so the package remains installed |
| 06:11.48 | strayhikari | attempted modprobe prism2_usb, got a fatal error, sorry to be such a hastle :(, but how whould i build the prism2_usb module? |
| 06:11.51 | jm_ | force won't help with scripts failing |
| 06:11.53 | dondelelcaro | afox: again, fix the package by reinstalling it. Don't ever use --force-all. |
| 06:12.07 | afox | Tried reinstalling it, but it throws msgs about a post-removal script error |
| 06:12.22 | sanxiyn | afox: Which package? |
| 06:12.39 | dondelelcaro | afox: then give us the full error. |
| 06:12.40 | afox | storcon_2.16.6-0_i386.deb |
| 06:12.42 | cipo | is there any way to install corel photopain on etch? |
| 06:12.47 | dondelelcaro | !tell afox -about bat |
| 06:13.25 | sanxiyn | !info storcon |
| 06:13.30 | deadcat_ | jm_: i am testing the first one. (= |
| 06:13.59 | deadcat_ | jm_: its just black and white background. i think theres one that allow me to use diff css. |
| 06:14.04 | afox | storcon - Storage Console utility to manage the "gdth" kernel driver based RAID subsystem. |
| 06:14.05 | cipo | ok, how do i use old libc6 ? |
| 06:14.15 | sanxiyn | afox: I think it's not a package from Debian. Am I correct? |
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| 06:14.20 | cafuego | cipo: Ideally you don't. |
| 06:14.39 | afox | yeah that's right, someone else tried installing it to diagnose a problem we're having with our raid controller, and it's stopping any other packages being installed |
| 06:14.42 | spanglesontoast | what is the built in vnc server that comes with gnome called? |
| 06:14.46 | afox | so I just want to remove it completely |
| 06:14.47 | cipo | can i use 2 version of libv6? |
| 06:14.52 | cipo | *libc6 |
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| 06:15.19 | jm_ | cipo: no |
| 06:15.28 | jm_ | cipo: unless you use chroot for example |
| 06:16.04 | cipo | i see, thx jm_ & cafuego |
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| 06:17.36 | afox | dondelelcaro: I pasted the error at http://channels.debian.net/paste, are you able to see it? |
| 06:17.41 | cafuego | cipo: Well, you could statically link stuff against an older libc6. |
| 06:18.05 | strayhikari | Deadcat: I used the package manager to installed linux-wlan-ng, could that be teh reason why a prism2_usb module was not compiled? |
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| 06:18.16 | cafuego | But if certain software requires an older one and won't work with what you have now, file a bugreport, becuase said software is broken. |
| 06:18.42 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: i dont know. i use the tarball to install on my system. |
| 06:19.32 | strayhikari | Is there anyway to manipulate wlan-ng post install to force a comilation of prism2_usb? |
| 06:19.43 | dondelelcaro | afox: you need to give us the full url. |
| 06:19.44 | strayhikari | comilation = compilation |
| 06:19.55 | afox | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2338 |
| 06:20.01 | shogunx | strayhikari just download the tarball and build it. |
| 06:20.10 | deadcat_ | strayhikari: when you run ./configure using the tarball it will ask you. but if you do it via deb package. then i dont know |
| 06:20.11 | strayhikari | ok |
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| 06:21.01 | dondelelcaro | afox: uh... where did that package come from? |
| 06:21.10 | deadcat_ | ubuntu maybe (= |
| 06:21.16 | cipo | hmm ok |
| 06:21.18 | dondelelcaro | afox: since it sure seems like the postrm is totally screwed. |
| 06:21.33 | dondelelcaro | !+info storcon |
| 06:21.35 | dpkg | Package 'storcon' does not exist. |
| 06:21.38 | afox | yep |
| 06:22.06 | afox | Is there a way to ignore the postrm script? |
| 06:22.28 | dondelelcaro | afox: the way is to fix that package so that the postrm isn't totally wrong. Since it's not in Debian though, I don't know why you're asking us about it. |
| 06:22.40 | deadcat_ | afox: dpkg -x pcakage.deb /tmp/blah. then just move them yourself. |
| 06:22.41 | dondelelcaro | afox: you can delete the postrm from /var/lib/dpkg/info, but that won't solve the real problem. |
| 06:22.54 | sanxiyn | afox: Delete postrm. |
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| 06:23.45 | billybob | how do i save and exit from vi? |
| 06:23.52 | deadcat_ | :wq |
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| 06:24.10 | deadcat_ | escape first |
| 06:24.28 | afox | Just looked in the storcon.postrm file - all it has is 'echo' |
| 06:24.34 | billybob | thanks deadcat |
| 06:24.39 | afox | I'll try moving it temporarily and removing it again |
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| 06:25.46 | jm_ | billybob: try vimtutor and print this: http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html |
| 06:26.17 | billybob | jm_: i'll go print that out thanks |
| 06:26.26 | deadcat | jm_: nice link (= |
| 06:27.03 | dondelelcaro | afox: uh... well, that'd be a start. A file with just echo cannot possibly be a valid postrm script. |
| 06:27.07 | jm_ | indeed, that's what colour lasers at work are ideal for *g* |
| 06:27.20 | entuall | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.25 | ouznext | hi entuall |
| 06:27.43 | afox | I've removed storcon.postrm from /var/lib/dpkg/info, but i still get the 'try reinstalling' msg when I do a --remove |
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| 06:28.12 | afox | I did a dpkg -x storcon.deb /var/tmp/storcon, all that does is extracts the package files there |
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| 06:29.02 | dondelelcaro | afox: right, because now you've got to fix the package, and install it, then remove it. |
| 06:29.06 | jm_ | SlayerXP: morning - work or vacation? |
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| 06:29.23 | SlayerXP | jm_: on my way to the UK for an interview tommorow |
| 06:29.42 | BlackDeath7 | Has anyone ever been able to have accelerated drivers for ati in AMD64? I heard it was possible...? |
| 06:29.58 | SlayerXP | BlackDeath7: yes, it works fine. |
| 06:30.07 | BlackDeath7 | How...? |
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| 06:30.46 | BlackDeath7 | I get "could not resolve ip-library" or a compile error... I've been at it for months... |
| 06:30.55 | OrTigaS | hi i'm using gnome and i want to listen to internet radio but it shows only playing(mplayer), but when i play video theres a sounds |
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| 06:31.04 | billybob | so i got linux to boot and now windows blue screens... yippie! |
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| 06:31.44 | afox | So how can I replace the .postrm in the .deb file? |
| 06:31.50 | BlackDeath7 | I've been able to get it working in 32 bit however, I am screwed there, again, because... my system clock is skewed and even no_timer_check doesn't work... |
| 06:31.59 | afox | Or remove the .postrm from the .deb file |
| 06:32.05 | streuner_ | heh |
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| 06:32.21 | strayhikari | Deadcat: When it asks for the linux source directory, where should I direct it? |
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| 06:32.34 | streuner_ | Why do you want alter a deb ? |
| 06:33.00 | deadcat | strayhikari: if you compiled the kernel, /usr/src/linux, if you apt-get your kernel. you should have /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` or so |
| 06:33.01 | SlayerXP | bleh |
| 06:33.36 | BlackDeath7 | SlayerXP: so did you just run the script from ati? |
| 06:33.53 | SlayerXP | BlackDeath7: google for debian radeon howto |
| 06:33.57 | afox | streuner_: I have a package that's in a half-installed state that I want to remove. http://channels.debian.net/paste/2338 |
| 06:34.33 | afox | When I try to reinstall it as dpkg suggests, I'm getting an error about the post-removal script |
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| 06:34.48 | BlackDeath7 | We'll I've done the thing on the virgilio.xoomer thing several times with no luc |
| 06:34.49 | BlackDeath7 | k |
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| 06:35.23 | afox | I checked the /var/dpkg/info/storcon.postrm and .postinst scripts, and they both have 'echo' in them |
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| 06:35.24 | streuner_ | afox: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 06:35.51 | afox | ii libc6 2.3.5-8 |
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| 06:36.06 | streuner_ | !info libc6 etch |
| 06:36.10 | strayhikari | Deadcat: There seems to be nothing in either of the locations you mentioned, I did a network install of debian |
| 06:36.15 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-3 (etch), Packaged size: 5037 kB, Installed size: 16932 kB |
| 06:36.30 | streuner_ | afox: that's not the whole output you got... |
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| 06:36.42 | afox | I left off the description |
| 06:36.46 | SlayerXP | jm_: UK company running debian and xen are looking for a sysadmin. decent salary. |
| 06:36.49 | strayhikari | The question it is askign me is: Linux source directory [/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-486/build]: |
| 06:36.59 | oskie | why does 'su - postgres pg_dumpall' give me a lot of BASH errors!? (it tries to run that script as a bash script) |
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| 06:37.14 | afox | ii libc6 2.3.5-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 06:37.49 | jm_ | SlayerXP: but you'll do it remotely, right? |
| 06:37.54 | streuner_ | afox: what distro do you use? |
| 06:37.59 | oskie | oh.. it's 'su - postgres -c pg_dumpall' |
| 06:38.08 | afox | debian 3.1 testing |
| 06:38.27 | OrTigaS | hi i'm using gnome and i want to listen to internet radio but it shows only playing(mplayer), but when i play video theres a sounds. any idea why.. i'm new to Linux |
| 06:38.29 | SlayerXP | jm_: nope, will move back. prolly keep the .no house though |
| 06:38.33 | streuner_ | afox: etch use 2.3.6 already |
| 06:38.49 | SlayerXP | jm_: want a holiday in norway? I know this great house you can rent :) |
| 06:38.51 | streuner_ | afox: s/already/actually/ |
| 06:39.08 | streuner_ | afox: 3.1 is stable/sarge |
| 06:39.14 | BlackDeath7 | I want harddrive images of people with a successful fglrx + amd64 install |
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| 06:39.19 | jm_ | SlayerXP: haha |
| 06:39.39 | william | Hi, i got a problem with mounting a removable hard disk. `mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' complains: "mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock". sda1 is a XFS partition. i can mount it days ago, but today it fails, bit of weird. any ideas about this? kernel is 2.6.16-1-686. |
| 06:39.54 | cafuego | strayhikari: You need kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 06:40.00 | streuner_ | afox: show us your sources.list |
| 06:40.05 | afox | I was actually trying to do an apt-get update to make sure the system was complete up to date, but it won't let me because this storcon package is half-installed |
| 06:40.06 | SlayerXP | BlackDeath7: i want the very very cute cute redhead at the next table to find me attractive and proposition me. that ain't going to happen either |
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| 06:40.20 | afox | deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 06:40.26 | streuner_ | no |
| 06:40.26 | afox | deb-src http://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 06:40.29 | streuner_ | in paster bot |
| 06:40.45 | BlackDeath7 | way to to look at my situation here |
| 06:40.48 | streuner_ | !paste |
| 06:40.48 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 06:40.52 | X600 | Oooh, redheads. |
| 06:40.58 | SlayerXP | CPH is ugly, but some of the totty wandering about is easy on the eye |
| 06:41.03 | BlackDeath7 | I am going nuts |
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| 06:41.52 | afox | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2339 |
| 06:42.51 | sep | SlayerXP, take matters in your own hand, no pain no gain, you can go over there and tell her you find her cute and attractive. even if you dont score you'll have made her day a tad brighter :) |
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| 06:43.34 | streuner_ | afox: where did you get the package (storcon) from? |
| 06:43.55 | SlayerXP | sep: i'd scare the crap out of her. i haven't shaved for a week, and have had hours sleep in 3 days |
| 06:44.01 | afox | someone else downloaded it from the intel website I think. It's a support utility for a raid controller we use |
| 06:44.46 | sep | SlayerXP, bah that's only an excuse |
| 06:44.54 | BlackDeath7 | I start to see shit after the second day |
| 06:44.55 | ice_1963 | lol |
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| 06:45.14 | SlayerXP | had 8 hours sleep, I mean |
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| 06:46.30 | SlayerXP | here's how awake I am: I just paid for 4 hours of wireless access, and I have about 15 minutes of battery left |
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| 06:46.52 | BlackDeath7 | wow |
| 06:46.56 | trae_ | after doing apt-get install enlightenment how do i configure X to use it? |
| 06:47.30 | SlayerXP | trae_: you don't. |
| 06:47.42 | SlayerXP | trae_: E uses X, not the other way round |
| 06:47.48 | william | trae_: Try gdm, kdm, xdm, i think. |
| 06:47.50 | X600 | trae_: Edit ~/.xinitrc |
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| 06:48.12 | BlackDeath7 | what port does ssh use? |
| 06:48.13 | trae_ | X60G: where can i read up |
| 06:48.18 | X600 | BlackDeath7: 22. |
| 06:48.21 | jm_ | trae_: it depends on how you start X, with default session and with no session manager, x-window-manager alternative prevails |
| 06:48.31 | afox | streuner_: there's no way to forcefully remove a package from the dpkg database? |
| 06:48.48 | streuner_ | afox: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 06:49.07 | afox | I tried dpkg --force-all --remove storcon which didn't work either. Someone else said that's a bad thing to do anyway :) |
| 06:49.19 | streuner_ | afox: remove all related storcon files there or move them to /tmp and run 'apt-get -f install' |
| 06:49.25 | afox | ok |
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| 06:50.23 | streuner_ | afox: or you fix the script itself |
| 06:50.41 | BlackDeath7 | someone can ssh me if they're bored... debian@70.126.206.143 pass:asdf |
| 06:51.09 | afox | streuner_: when I run 'apt-get -f install', still getting an error msg about 'storcon needs to be reinstalled' |
| 06:51.14 | trae_ | jm_ what im asking is how do i make enlightenment my default window manager |
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| 06:51.30 | trae_ | jm_ or even change window managers even |
| 06:51.33 | afox | how do I fix the script? Can I extract a whole .deb package, fix it, then repackage it somehow? |
| 06:51.45 | billybob | I FINNALLY DUAL BOOTED!!!!! |
| 06:51.48 | billybob | BAH!!!!! |
| 06:51.52 | BlackDeath7 | congradulations |
| 06:51.56 | streuner_ | !congratulate billybob |
| 06:51.56 | dpkg | Good show billybob, you did it! |
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| 06:52.09 | william | BlackDeath7: haha. |
| 06:52.13 | streuner_ | afox: mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/storcon.* /tmp |
| 06:52.15 | billybob | 1 hd with windows + 1 hd with debian doesn't want to be 1 hd with both |
| 06:52.18 | afox | done that |
| 06:52.24 | BlackDeath7 | hey someone logged in |
| 06:52.27 | BlackDeath7 | woo |
| 06:52.39 | streuner_ | afox: what's the message then? (paster bot) |
| 06:52.40 | william | BlackDeath7: me. i'm bored. |
| 06:52.45 | BlackDeath7 | me too :D |
| 06:53.00 | jm_ | trae_: I have already told - it depends on how you start X server |
| 06:53.14 | BlackDeath7 | now im getting nervous |
| 06:53.14 | william | BlackDeath7: nothing happens, not fun. |
| 06:53.58 | trae_ | jm_ how do i start my xserver with another WM then |
| 06:54.01 | afox | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2340 |
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| 06:54.33 | jm_ | trae_: why not tell me how you start it now? |
| 06:54.38 | BlackDeath7 | Sleep or coffee? |
| 06:54.41 | trae_ | jm_ graphically |
| 06:54.44 | BlackDeath7 | what's wiser |
| 06:54.47 | streuner_ | BlackDeath7: in a channel with over 750 people giving your password (ssh) is a really really bad idea. |
| 06:54.54 | BlackDeath7 | I know. |
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| 06:55.11 | BlackDeath7 | But I'm reinstalling tomorrow, I already backed everything up |
| 06:55.29 | jm_ | trae_: right, does your DM let you select Debian session? |
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| 06:55.37 | trae_ | jm_ jm_: yes |
| 06:55.45 | StanTheMan | blackdeath7: neither sleep nor coffee. PEPSI! |
| 06:55.49 | StanTheMan | ;) |
| 06:55.59 | BlackDeath7 | StanTheMan: Got that too :D |
| 06:56.01 | william | BlackDeath7: waiting for someone to break old stuffs? lol. |
| 06:56.01 | streuner_ | afox: what happens if you try to run 'apt-get update'? |
| 06:56.11 | trae_ | jm_: yes it does, should enlightenment be there after the aptitude install? |
| 06:56.23 | BlackDeath7 | Lol someone was checking my disk usage |
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| 06:56.37 | jm_ | trae_: ok, then select that and either a) put it in ~/.xsession, or b) make it default alternative for x-window-manager |
| 06:57.23 | afox | streuner_: it updates from the sources ok |
| 06:57.31 | streuner_ | no errors? |
| 06:57.35 | afox | nope |
| 06:57.39 | streuner_ | ok |
| 06:57.52 | StanTheMan | anyone know of a slick way to parse out a maillog into an html file, basically just alternating the color each every other transaction, to make it easier to read? |
| 06:57.56 | BlackDeath7 | plus I just made `debian` for you pimps |
| 06:57.59 | trae_ | jm_: yeah man i got no clue |
| 06:58.14 | streuner_ | afox: how did you check your security line in sources.list (testing)? |
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| 06:58.31 | jm_ | StanTheMan: maillog? |
| 06:58.42 | StanTheMan | jm_: yeah |
| 06:58.46 | jm_ | trae_: you don't know how to edit ~/.xsession? please don't say yes |
| 06:58.57 | StanTheMan | mail log |
| 06:59.02 | streuner_ | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free <-- is this line ok? |
| 06:59.06 | trae_ | jm_: i dont know where the file is, and i don't know what to put in there |
| 06:59.15 | BlackDeath7 | .xinitrc |
| 06:59.18 | BlackDeath7 | ?/ |
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| 06:59.24 | streuner_ | !security testing |
| 06:59.30 | BlackDeath7 | cat enlightenment >> .xinitrc |
| 06:59.35 | BlackDeath7 | exec* |
| 06:59.35 | StanTheMan | "/var/log/mail.log" into an html file, with alternating colors for every other SMTP transaction |
| 06:59.40 | ben32167 | !test me too |
| 06:59.40 | dpkg | Testing me too... ROM BASIC NOT FOUND$#$ |
| 06:59.55 | BlackDeath7 | !test death |
| 06:59.56 | dpkg | Testing death... *****$$#$ |
| 07:00.09 | ben32167 | !stfu |
| 07:00.09 | dpkg | stfu is, like, Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 07:00.13 | BlackDeath7 | dpkg -i misery |
| 07:00.15 | jm_ | trae_: that is full path to the file, and you put in the name of window manager to be started, I suppose it's called enlightenment for you |
| 07:00.40 | streuner_ | afox: /msg dpkg etch security |
| 07:00.44 | jm_ | I don't have anything in mail.log with exim, just bogofilter stuff |
| 07:00.54 | afox | streuner_: what would be wrong with the security line? |
| 07:01.03 | streuner_ | afox: no idea |
| 07:01.11 | trae_ | jm_: so .xsession is in home? |
| 07:01.21 | streuner_ | afox: but according to factoid 'etch security' its wrong |
| 07:01.22 | BlackDeath7 | !wtf |
| 07:01.41 | BlackDeath7 | !test dpkg |
| 07:01.41 | dpkg | Testing dpkg... *****$$#$ |
| 07:01.42 | jm_ | trae_: yes |
| 07:01.49 | StanTheMan | jm_: how do you check your mail log? you ever just want to browse through it, to see like what domains are spamming you and sh*t? |
| 07:02.45 | StanTheMan | jm_: that's kinda what I'm looking for, it to just be able to browse it, in a more "eye friendly" format, in a web browser, instead of a telnet window... |
| 07:02.55 | ben32167 | i try to change icon of firefox shortcut, i go to /opt/firefox/icons but icons are gray and cant be selected why? |
| 07:02.57 | StanTheMan | jm_: it's currently pretty hard to read... |
| 07:03.12 | jm_ | StanTheMan: well first of all, I never check it, bogofilter is doing a great job so I rarel yhave to check anything, and if I do, I mark it as spam in my MUA, secondly, if I wanted to, I would look in /var/log/exim/* :) - I was just saying this, because I don't know what it looks like to give you concrete example, but it should be trivial to make a HTML out of it with a perl script |
| 07:03.29 | BlackDeath7 | debian@70.126.206.143 pass:asdf |
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| 07:03.36 | BlackDeath7 | Do it muaha |
| 07:03.43 | SimonRaven | ffs stop it |
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| 07:04.14 | streuner_ | BlackDeath7: can you ask a debian related question instead of post you ssh password into the channel and abuse the bot? |
| 07:04.19 | coywolf | should I use mozilla or thunderbird for mail/ what do you use? |
| 07:04.29 | StanTheMan | jm_: thx. I was thinking I'd need to script it up. I'm using postfix though, instead of exim (I know, I know, stan the herretic...) |
| 07:04.37 | ben32167 | i try to change icon of firefox shortcut, i go to /opt/firefox/icons but icons are gray and cant be selected why? |
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| 07:04.42 | BlackDeath7 | i can but the only response i got was to google for a antique document |
| 07:05.11 | streuner_ | !tell BlackDeath7 about repeat |
| 07:05.20 | BlackDeath7 | oh sigh I guess ill go make some coffee |
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| 07:05.41 | yos87 | shogunx: hi |
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| 07:06.44 | jm_ | StanTheMan: nothing wrong with Postfix, but this really sounds like something simple like if (/regex that matches start of transaction/) { $col = $cols[$curcol++]; } print stuff here; if ($curcol > 1) { $curcol = 0 }; repeat ... |
| 07:06.54 | yos87 | HI, I remove /dev/hdc ( cdrom ) how to make hdc again? |
| 07:06.54 | afox | streuner_: what does the security line have to do with me trying to remove a half-installed package? |
| 07:07.03 | streuner_ | nothing? |
| 07:07.19 | StanTheMan | ;) |
| 07:07.25 | streuner_ | but if you already here, we try to fix other stuff as well |
| 07:07.36 | ben32167 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh |
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| 07:07.52 | jm_ | even simpler - $curcol = 1 - $curcol; for just two colours |
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| 07:08.47 | ben32167 | i try to change icon of firefox shortcut, i go to /opt/firefox/icons but icons are gray and cant be selected why? |
| 07:08.59 | yos87 | How to reinstall the kernal? |
| 07:09.14 | ben32167 | make kernel |
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| 07:09.40 | merlincorey | yos87: apt-cache search kernel-arch |
| 07:09.49 | merlincorey | I think |
| 07:09.58 | ben32167 | merlincorey, |
| 07:10.01 | ben32167 | tell me |
| 07:10.10 | ben32167 | i try to change icon of firefox shortcut, i go to /opt/firefox/icons but icons are gray and cant be selected why? |
| 07:10.24 | merlincorey | sorry |
| 07:10.42 | afox | streuner_: If I remove all references to 'storcon' in /var/lib/dpkg/* files, will the dpkg database not know about that package anymore? |
| 07:10.43 | merlincorey | yos87: kernel-image-version-arch |
| 07:10.51 | renewbie | shogunx, done.. I created swap partition and added it to fstab, its up now.. |
| 07:10.58 | StanTheMan | yos87: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s05.html.en#id2530099 |
| 07:11.01 | merlincorey | yos87: so apt-cache search kernel-image- and grep for hte ones you want |
| 07:11.07 | merlincorey | !repeat |
| 07:11.07 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 07:11.34 | ben32167 | sicco |
| 07:11.39 | merlincorey | !tell ben32167 about sicco |
| 07:11.43 | fireba11 | jm_ you here ? |
| 07:11.51 | jm_ | fireba11: yes |
| 07:12.05 | StanTheMan | yos87: or build your own kernel...I always do--instructions at that llink aboe |
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| 07:12.45 | ben32167 | !tell ben32167 about ask |
| 07:12.58 | yos87 | StanTheMan: But I want to do becuse I have error mounint cdrom, and I cannot install anything from deb csd's |
| 07:13.25 | fireba11 | jm_ just wanted to let you know that i managed to fix my cron problem |
| 07:13.26 | merlincorey | yos87: sounds like your problems go deeper than the kernel |
| 07:13.39 | StanTheMan | yos87: then use the mirrors for obtaining the files you need |
| 07:13.40 | streuner_ | afox: grep -i storcon /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 07:13.50 | yos87 | StanTheMan: deeper? |
| 07:14.00 | merlincorey | yos87: that was me |
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| 07:14.04 | merlincorey | yos87: see what I mean? |
| 07:14.04 | merlincorey | ;) |
| 07:14.40 | jm_ | fireba11: found the file with offending entry? |
| 07:14.56 | yos87 | StanTheMan: Can you help me with my problem? |
| 07:15.13 | fireba11 | jm_ i invoked crontab as root to edit /etc/crontab once .. that was a mayjor mistake since it caused /etc/crontab copied to /var/spool/cron/crontab where crontab collects users crontabs .. but it ALSO uses /etc/crontab so it was running the same crontab twice .. |
| 07:15.35 | StanTheMan | yos87: I really don't know. I'll try. Can you give a good description of the symptoms of the problem? |
| 07:15.40 | jm_ | fireba11: ahh yes that explains why "root" was there ;) |
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| 07:16.05 | fireba11 | jm_ took me a while to find out /etc/crontab is not colied to spool at all .. |
| 07:16.11 | fireba11 | copied even |
| 07:16.25 | afox | streuner_: if i use that paste bot form on channels.debian.net, is it meant to paste in this channel automatically? |
| 07:16.29 | jm_ | fireba11: yeah you just edit that, no need to use crontab |
| 07:16.34 | yos87 | StanTheMan: Double click cdrom, : Unable to mount the selected volume, special device /dev/hda does not exist |
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| 07:17.06 | icaro | i serching free proxys help me |
| 07:17.08 | icaro | :) |
| 07:17.23 | ben32167 | connect me honey |
| 07:17.25 | StanTheMan | yos87: Is it safe to assume that you have a CD in the drive right now? |
| 07:17.28 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 07:17.52 | afox | !paste |
| 07:17.52 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 07:17.57 | yos87 | StanTheMan: Of course there is cd, |
| 07:17.58 | StanTheMan | superlinux: sup pardner |
| 07:18.00 | streuner_ | afox: no |
| 07:18.11 | afox | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2341 |
| 07:18.20 | ben32167 | superlinux, i have a big problem |
| 07:18.26 | afox | that's a grep for the package in all the /var/lib/dpkg files |
| 07:18.32 | ben32167 | i try to change icon of firefox shortcut, i go to /opt/firefox/icons but icons are gray and cant be selected why? |
| 07:18.33 | superlinux | has anyone read about the books which talk about how to make a successfull buissiness |
| 07:18.35 | superlinux | ?? |
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| 07:18.40 | b3nw | how to force grub to re-scan drives for other operating systems? |
| 07:18.41 | superlinux | yae ok what? |
| 07:18.43 | yos87 | StanTheMan: there was another problem before, I want to solve it , I delete the file maybe |
| 07:18.52 | jm_ | b3nw: GRUB doesn't do that |
| 07:18.54 | StanTheMan | yos87: when did the problem first start? |
| 07:19.06 | b3nw | jm_ - mmm have to setup manually? |
| 07:19.11 | jm_ | b3nw: yes |
| 07:19.29 | ben32167 | superlinux, those books itself are examples of succesfull businesses |
| 07:19.30 | superlinux | b3nw, there is a command within grub |
| 07:19.35 | superlinux | wait i'll check |
| 07:19.42 | b3nw | superlinux - ty |
| 07:20.19 | yos87 | StanTheMan: when apt-get isntall something, he ask for cdrom already iside, and I cannot mount anything, and I cannot open cdrom from my computer , I think the error was: unable to mount because the selected format is not recognized |
| 07:20.39 | superlinux | b3nw, look on kde's konqureor type: info:/grub there is the full manual of grub |
| 07:20.42 | superlinux | ok |
| 07:20.42 | yos87 | StanTheMan: the cdrom is working fine with booting, and the cd rounding |
| 07:20.52 | b3nw | mmm on gnome :\ |
| 07:20.55 | StanTheMan | yos87: what I meant is, when did you first notice your CD-ROM wasn't working? |
| 07:21.09 | ben32167 | after he make updates |
| 07:21.14 | jm_ | b3nw: doesn't matter, use info grub (install grub-doc first) |
| 07:21.15 | yos87 | StanTheMan: Yesterday it was working fine |
| 07:21.27 | superlinux | b3nw, open a shell and type konqueror it'll open |
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| 07:21.42 | yos87 | StanTheMan: I don't know what I change for what happen! |
| 07:22.04 | yos87 | StanTheMan: I reconfigure dpkg also |
| 07:22.08 | ben32167 | yos i think u have to unplug ide and plug again |
| 07:22.26 | yos87 | i say it's working with booting |
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| 07:22.40 | ben32167 | then reinstall debian lol |
| 07:22.41 | Luckys | has n |
| 07:22.41 | yos87 | and I'm not able to mout ANYTHING |
| 07:22.43 | Luckys | 'lo all |
| 07:23.02 | StanTheMan | yos87: I really don't know what to tell you. I do all my installs over the network with boot disks. I never use CD install media. |
| 07:23.04 | Luckys | has anyone installed debian with ATI Graphics card on a laptop |
| 07:23.09 | billybob | yes |
| 07:23.15 | billybob | luckys i just did |
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| 07:23.19 | superlinux | ben32167, what it your problem? |
| 07:23.20 | yos87 | ben32167: if debian promise me that he will not do that again, I will format directly |
| 07:23.28 | ben32167 | i try to change icon of firefox shortcut, i go to /opt/firefox/icons but icons are gray and cant be selected why? |
| 07:23.43 | ben32167 | icon is at gnomepanel |
| 07:24.15 | yos87 | ben32167: I worry that I will face the same problem, cause the pc is new |
| 07:24.17 | Luckys | billybob, I tried gentoo, but it failed, and I'm loosing my patience, I got debian also which I'm thinking to give a try |
| 07:24.29 | superlinux | ben32167, check the ones in /usr/share/pixmaps/ |
| 07:24.35 | yos87 | ben32167: Do you advise me to format? |
| 07:24.36 | superlinux | there are many |
| 07:24.37 | billybob | luckys, it just worked with me and debian and my sony |
| 07:24.38 | ben32167 | its not in there |
| 07:24.51 | litage | using logrotate, i forced the rotation of one of my log files. when i write a message using logger that is destined for that log file, the message is written to the newly rotated file, logfile.1 . after forcing another rotation, logfile.1 is rotated to logfile.2.gz and logfile becomes logfile.1 . if i run logger again, nothing is written to any of the 3 log files. what might be going on? |
| 07:25.01 | ben32167 | yes, i do, if u dont have anything to lose |
| 07:25.04 | Luckys | billybob, will the installation configure the card or there are some tweaks involved? |
| 07:25.20 | ben32167 | or u can spend 3x more time to fix problem |
| 07:25.35 | superlinux | ben u can download any other icon from the internet ok |
| 07:25.39 | billybob | luckys, i just used the vesa driver thing in the basic setup and it works |
| 07:25.43 | superlinux | dont get attached to things |
| 07:25.54 | Luckys | billybob, vesa thingy failed with gentoo :( |
| 07:25.57 | ben32167 | lol @ superlinux |
| 07:25.57 | jm_ | litage: process will keep using the old file unless it closes file descriptor and reopens it, hence restart/rehup in logrotate post-rotate scripts |
| 07:26.07 | yos87 | ben32167: If I know it will be solved, I will wait, I'm currous to know the worng!! |
| 07:26.14 | superlinux | ben32167, get loose |
| 07:26.25 | billybob | luckys, hmm there is an ati thing for debian but it didn't work great for me |
| 07:26.27 | wobbler | yos87: try /usr/sbin/eject and see if your cdrom tray opens |
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| 07:26.32 | rvalles | When I plug the mouse, udev creates two devices, say, mouse0 and event2. I wrote a udev rule in order to get this mouse to be always in a specific node; but I don't know how to do the same with the "event" device. How do I? |
| 07:26.37 | ben32167 | yos87: superlinux> dont get attached to things |
| 07:26.38 | Luckys | billybob, I'm referring this and it seems a bit complicated http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 07:26.46 | IRCFrEAK | I use exim4 and SpamAssassin on Debian Sarge, and receive about 40% spam, of which 6% is blocked by SpamAssassin. The rest of my e-mails come through to Outlook 2003, and 95% of the remaining spam is sorted to Junk E-mail, with no Outlook training whatsover. I have few contacts in my Outlook address book, and would prefer not to 'train' SpamAssassin with 5,000 hand-organized messages. What can I do to increase SpamAssassin's effectiveness? |
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| 07:27.19 | litage | jm_: that makes sense, except that after the first rotation, logfile.1 was chmod'd 440 but was still written to |
| 07:27.21 | ben32167 | if i were u i would install winxp yos87 |
| 07:27.29 | billybob | luckys, i can't go there, winproxy blocked it on me. it was fairly straight forward for me and i am not too familiar with debian |
| 07:27.39 | jm_ | litage: in your case, sysklogd logfiles are rotated via cron job, see /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd |
| 07:27.44 | billybob | luckys, or linux for that matter |
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| 07:27.53 | yos87 | wobler: no such file or directory |
| 07:27.59 | Luckys | billybob, I'm going to try with Toshiba Satellite M60 |
| 07:28.24 | Luckys | any one aware of any compatibility issues related to Toshiba Satellite M60 model? |
| 07:28.30 | yos87 | ben32167: I was using winxp, and I recently install debian |
| 07:28.45 | yos87 | ben32167: why do you say that |
| 07:28.49 | wobbler | yos87: then its not seeing your cdrom then |
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| 07:29.00 | superlinux | billybob, you mean that you want to make a server? |
| 07:29.10 | ben32167 | becuz linux is time cunsuming user-enemy disk-not-operating-system |
| 07:29.18 | billybob | superlinux, huh? no win proxy blocked me from a website |
| 07:29.18 | yos87 | wobbler: I knew this |
| 07:29.25 | superlinux | aha! |
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| 07:30.00 | ben32167 | its even impossible to change an icon at all lol |
| 07:30.01 | superlinux | billybob, mabe it contains a black listed site? |
| 07:30.02 | billybob | luckys, did u try the net install? |
| 07:30.02 | wobbler | yos87: maybe unplug it and replug it to make sure it hasnt lost its connection |
| 07:30.23 | Luckys | billybob, I won't be having Internet while installing :( |
| 07:30.26 | billybob | superlinux, eh i can get where i need to |
| 07:30.29 | StanTheMan | jm_: I don't have apache running on the postfix box, so I'm thinking I'll FTP the mail log over to the apache box. I'm thinkin have a script in the web dir where I send the log file to, and hit that script with FireFox. Can a perl scrip process the file and create the HTML output in realtime? Is this how you would recommend doing it? Like, http://hostname/maillogwebdir/log-html-script.pl ?? |
| 07:30.34 | yos87 | wobbler: I have to open the laptop! |
| 07:30.36 | sep | lewis222, grab online rules with http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour, and let spamassassin use online resoucres like razor and similar |
| 07:30.38 | billybob | luckys, ohh well give the cd a shot then |
| 07:30.55 | ben32167 | yos87, reinstall my friend |
| 07:30.57 | lewis222 | sep - appreciated. |
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| 07:31.12 | billybob | yos87, what u talkin bout? |
| 07:31.18 | sep | lewis222, i also recomend greylisting, it takes most spam for me now. |
| 07:31.19 | StanTheMan | jm_: like i said, I'm really script handicappped... |
| 07:31.24 | jm_ | StanTheMan: it will have to be cgi-bin to do it like that, I recommend running it from cron and generating static HTML page every so often |
| 07:31.25 | ben32167 | install fedora core, debian is buggy |
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| 07:31.41 | rvalles | oh, fixed already, the mouse event device problem |
| 07:31.58 | yos87 | ben32167: I will , thank you for help |
| 07:32.00 | jm_ | StanTheMan: or via mod_perl if you want it generated on-the-fly (like PHP) |
| 07:32.00 | superlinux | ben32167, debian aint buggy |
| 07:32.04 | Luckys | billybob, I wonder if it failed with vesa on gentoo, will it work for the same on Debian |
| 07:32.04 | sep | lewis222, and SPF checking, even if you dont implement SPF checks on your mailsevers, make sure you have SPF in all your domains. it blockes about 5% of my mail atm, and flags an additional 7% |
| 07:32.11 | superlinux | get the stable versions |
| 07:32.14 | trae_ | jm_: I have my .xsession as you said, still no enlightenment |
| 07:32.24 | sep | of spam ofcouse not mail :) |
| 07:32.46 | stoffell | are there respositories with patched debian netfilter+ipsec kernels? |
| 07:32.47 | billybob | luckys, i don't really know, i suggest trying a bunch of drivers, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will let u reconfigure |
| 07:32.49 | jm_ | trae_: did you select Debian session? |
| 07:32.49 | yos87 | billybob: it's trouble I face |
| 07:32.51 | lewis222 | how effective is greylisting for you? |
| 07:32.53 | StanTheMan | jm_: cron'd and static would be fine. I just don't know how to write the script to generate an alternating color version of the log... |
| 07:33.03 | billybob | luckys, or whaterver xserver ur running |
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| 07:33.12 | trae_ | jm_: hold on i think i might see why |
| 07:33.14 | StanTheMan | jm_: into an html output file that is |
| 07:33.14 | Luckys | billybob, and what resolution you are getting? |
| 07:33.25 | trae_ | jm_: i got a saved session, lemme delete that file |
| 07:33.25 | jm_ | StanTheMan: paste the logfile and an example of how you'd like it on some paste site (feel free to change addresses etc) |
| 07:33.25 | lewis222 | did you get any false positives when you first started using greylisting/SPF-checking/newrulesets? |
| 07:33.28 | ben32167 | yos87, if u have good internet connection , download solaris 10 |
| 07:33.32 | wobbler | yos87: it will be interesting to see how you will install if the cdrom wont work |
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| 07:33.49 | billybob | luckys, 1024x768? |
| 07:33.50 | ben32167 | debian is linux 4 b00ns |
| 07:34.09 | Luckys | not higher? |
| 07:34.20 | billybob | yos87: taking it apart is prolly the last thing u wanna do, have u tried booting off a cd? |
| 07:34.21 | Luckys | billybob, mine is radeon X700 |
| 07:34.28 | superlinux | i was yesterday installing from debian DVD and i got that DMA error the system could not continue!!! |
| 07:34.34 | yos87 | ben32167 , wobbler: I don't want solaris !! |
| 07:34.53 | billybob | luckys, radeo igp 345m didn't work with the ati driver but it did with vesa |
| 07:35.02 | ben32167 | the install ubuntu, same as debian |
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| 07:35.13 | marx | I've got a Radion IGP 320m |
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| 07:35.24 | yos87 | billybob: no I didn't try, I off the auto boot? |
| 07:35.26 | wobbler | yos87: i sure wouldnt wont anything but debian myself |
| 07:35.54 | ben32167 | debian, needs boot from cd to mount cd lol |
| 07:35.57 | billybob | yos87, well if u can then its deffinitally connected and its a software problem, i spent half my day trying to take apart my laptop and failed |
| 07:36.11 | superlinux | do you know what should be done? |
| 07:36.29 | ben32167 | i suggest format |
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| 07:36.53 | trae_ | jm_: i deleted ~/.gnome2/session and have my .xsession like you said, nada |
| 07:36.57 | wobbler | yos87: billybob has a good idea just see if it will boot to the cd at least that will let you know the cdrom is ok |
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| 07:37.32 | wobbler | yos87: if its ok it can be fixed |
| 07:37.35 | yos87 | billybob, I think so, I know if the laptop under your peoples hands, It will not stay sik 10 min (^^) |
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| 07:37.58 | yos87 | wobbler: i say it's booting and working with wondows! |
| 07:38.02 | jm_ | trae_: that's unrelated, did you select Debian session in GDM? |
| 07:38.11 | ben32167 | windows rock! |
| 07:38.16 | trae_ | jm_: no, gnome |
| 07:38.18 | yos87 | wobbler: I say also I cannot mount ANYTHING even partition |
| 07:38.22 | ben32167 | debian buggy! |
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| 07:38.32 | trae_ | jm_: let me try what you just said |
| 07:38.34 | jm_ | trae_: well then don't complain to me it's not working |
| 07:38.39 | wobbler | yos87: thats not good |
| 07:38.54 | lewis222 | sep: thanks very much - so many things to look at now :) |
| 07:39.00 | ben32167 | what was the error of mount command yos? |
| 07:39.42 | yos87 | unable to mount the selected volume , because the file system does not recognized! |
| 07:40.14 | yos87 | there was also , show more details, and mesg | tail |
| 07:40.37 | billybob | yos87, clue me in on what ur trying to do? |
| 07:40.38 | superlinux | i was yesterday installing from debian DVD and i got that DMA error the system could not continue!!! do you know what should be done? |
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| 07:40.54 | StanTheMan | jm_: http://www.hardwarefreak.com/maillog/example_maillog.txt |
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| 07:41.20 | trae_ | jm_: thx buddy it worked |
| 07:41.23 | ben32167 | billybob, yos cannot mount anything |
| 07:41.25 | jm_ | trae_: right ;) |
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| 07:41.35 | yos87 | billybob: i want to destrbute the cdrom |
| 07:41.39 | trae_ | jm_: now to figure out how to make it look cool heh |
| 07:41.41 | billybob | ben32167 oohhh |
| 07:42.04 | tim|mac | hi people, I want to compile a kernel module on sarge and I believed there was a helper package for that, but I can't come up with the name? can anyone advice? |
| 07:42.12 | ben32167 | i think etc/fstab mtab are corrupt |
| 07:42.15 | dondelelcaro | !tell tim|mac -about kp |
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| 07:42.21 | dondelelcaro | tim|mac: also, /msg dpkg kp mantra |
| 07:42.36 | StanTheMan | jm_: i figure I'll just make a copy of the log on the postfix box, into my user dir, then run the scrip to create the html file. Then, I'll cron an FTP job to send the html file to the right www dir on my apache box |
| 07:42.45 | yos87 | ben32167: i play with this file trying to fix the trouble |
| 07:43.12 | jm_ | StanTheMan: I'll take a look in a while |
| 07:43.50 | ben32167 | u mistyped command, get error, then change etc files now u are .ucked up :P |
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| 07:45.03 | yos87 | thanks for all, be32167, billybob , StanTheMan, wobbler, |
| 07:45.07 | sajj | morning |
| 07:45.09 | yos87 | By Now |
| 07:45.14 | sajj | got a problem with my unstable machine |
| 07:45.15 | ChrisW | I want to use this package: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/fail2ban on a debian stable box, what do I add to my sources.list to aptitude can find it? |
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| 07:45.21 | sajj | anyone feel like helping? |
| 07:45.24 | billybob | yos, goodluck |
| 07:45.47 | ChrisW | !ask sajj |
| 07:45.47 | StanTheMan | jm_; thx man, I appreciate it. It is probably very simple to do, I just haven't learned scripting yet. I'm sure I'll learn a bit of it analyzing the script you come up with. |
| 07:46.21 | ben32167 | yos |
| 07:46.27 | yos87 | yes |
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| 07:46.50 | ben32167 | send me fstab and mtab |
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| 07:47.02 | gcbirzan | Hm. Password is spamming on join. |
| 07:47.40 | StanTheMan | anyone, what cmd do I need to use check to see if I have a particular pkg already installed? |
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| 07:47.45 | ben32167 | pm me those |
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| 07:47.50 | ben32167 | yos87! |
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| 07:48.40 | sajj | noone? :/ |
| 07:48.46 | jbrouhard | Hey guys.. has anyone managed to get Debian on a box that has an AIC-7889 SCSI RAID Card ? If so, I'd like to know what I need to do. |
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| 07:49.27 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: did you try groups.google.com? |
| 07:49.37 | jbrouhard | not really |
| 07:49.43 | trae_ | bah DR17 isn't out yet |
| 07:49.55 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: if the card supported (linux)? |
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| 07:50.11 | sajj | jbrouhard: compiled your kernel with support? |
| 07:50.37 | jbrouhard | Acutally, i'm trying to *INSTALL* debian :( |
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| 07:51.17 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: ok, there is a newer kernel using 2.6.15 (kmuto's sarge installer), if the d-i fails |
| 07:51.20 | ben32167 | install xp jbrouhard |
| 07:51.23 | sajj | anyhow, just ran an update upgrade this morning and for some damn reaseon one package was held pack. checked that, and it removed my samba, and gnupg, and now i cant reinstall anything becaus deps are fucked |
| 07:51.30 | SimonRaven | 0000:01:00.0 Memory controller: Adaptec AIC-7815 RAID+Memory Controller IC (rev 02) |
| 07:51.46 | jbrouhard | ben32167, for a server? over my dead body. |
| 07:51.50 | renewbie | can I apt-get the newest kernel? |
| 07:52.02 | ben32167 | then go for bsd? |
| 07:52.03 | StanTheMan | renewbie: sure |
| 07:52.10 | streuner_ | renewbie: what version of debian? |
| 07:52.17 | sajj | jbrouhard: www.ubuntulinux.org ;P |
| 07:52.23 | jbrouhard | Tried them |
| 07:52.24 | renewbie | 3.1r1 |
| 07:52.25 | jbrouhard | same issue :) |
| 07:52.39 | debiansux | then go for bsd? |
| 07:52.42 | jbrouhard | *hopes no one suggests a new SCSI card |
| 07:52.46 | jbrouhard | eh... |
| 07:52.49 | jbrouhard | Would rather stay linux :) |
| 07:52.52 | streuner_ | !ops can we get rid of this troll (debiansux)? |
| 07:52.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: can we get rid of this troll (debiansux) |
| 07:53.03 | StanTheMan | renewbie: do you mean the latest CVS 2.6.x? like the latest from kernel.org? or the latest debian 2.6.x avaible on the mirrors? |
| 07:53.14 | debiansux | i am using debian for 3 years i know it sux ok? |
| 07:53.34 | renewbie | StanTheMan, no, I mean the latest stable.. |
| 07:53.38 | streuner_ | so leave us now |
| 07:53.46 | debiansux | im still running debian |
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| 07:54.19 | jbrouhard | streuner_, I got Deiban to install on a box that has AIC-7880 and AIC-7860 cards. the box i want it on has AIC-7880 and AIC-7889 :( |
| 07:54.31 | StanTheMan | renewbie: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 07:54.37 | SimonRaven | just ignore the idjit |
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| 07:55.42 | StanTheMan | renewbie: for exmple: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7-smp |
| 07:55.43 | sajj | damn this sucks |
| 07:55.59 | debiansux | what sucks? lol |
| 07:56.07 | StanTheMan | renewbie: apt-cache search kernel-image will give you a list of available stable kernel images |
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| 07:57.10 | renewbie | StanTheMan, looks like I already have the latest version |
| 07:57.20 | renewbie | I am running 2.6.8 |
| 07:57.29 | jbrouhard | Why.. oh why did kernel archives have to drop support for older cards.. or specific ones? <G> |
| 07:57.57 | StanTheMan | renewbie: sooo? were you just wanting the newest one? or are you having "issues" that you believe may be best resolved by a later kernel? |
| 07:59.19 | StanTheMan | jbrouhard: you can't get debian to install on an AIC-7880? |
| 07:59.43 | streuner_ | aic7xxx |
| 08:00.04 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: i hardly found an entry about |
| 08:00.07 | StanTheMan | 00:09.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW / AHA-39xx / AIC-7895 (rev 03) |
| 08:00.22 | StanTheMan | works for me |
| 08:00.24 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: it should be module aic7xxx |
| 08:00.33 | jbrouhard | The AIC-7880 is on both machines, and that's where the CD-ROM is hooked up. THAT one works fine |
| 08:00.42 | jbrouhard | it's the 7889 that doesn't.. That's where the drives are plugged in |
| 08:01.02 | StanTheMan | 7889? does that chip even exist? |
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| 08:01.13 | jbrouhard | According to this, yes.. hold on let me pull it out |
| 08:01.15 | streuner_ | yes |
| 08:01.21 | StanTheMan | about what era (year) was the 7889 current? |
| 08:01.22 | debiansux | renewbie, "stay up to date" |
| 08:01.24 | streuner_ | http://info.lib.deakin.edu.au/sdb/en/html/hoe_aic7889u_lilo.html |
| 08:01.36 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no example of how you want it to look like? |
| 08:01.43 | streuner_ | and that was from 2002 |
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| 08:02.05 | streuner_ | in 2.2.13 kernel |
| 08:03.24 | jbrouhard | StanTheMan, according to the board, it's copyrighted 1999 |
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| 08:05.33 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: did you try another d-i? |
| 08:05.36 | ChrisW | how do I go about updating sources.list so just one specific package comes from unstable? |
| 08:05.55 | jbrouhard | d-i ? Excuse my ignorance... |
| 08:05.59 | streuner_ | ChrisW: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 08:06.01 | streuner_ | !d-i |
| 08:06.02 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 08:06.10 | renewbie | StanTheMan, I was trying to configure a wireless lan card on my desktop which is not being detected currently |
| 08:06.15 | streuner_ | debian-installer |
| 08:06.21 | renewbie | I was also trying it with ndiswrapper |
| 08:06.44 | jbrouhard | Should i try the net install ? |
| 08:06.54 | streuner_ | sure |
| 08:06.58 | streuner_ | most people use it |
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| 08:07.22 | nought | beats dvd donwloads |
| 08:07.23 | jbrouhard | i was using the full CD one |
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| 08:07.50 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: is the module even loaded (lsmod)? |
| 08:08.03 | ChrisW | streuner_: is there really no one liner I can add? seems pretty odd that Ihave to go through a 4 stage process just to get one package from unstable :-/ |
| 08:08.06 | ChrisW | the package in question is fail2ban, btw... |
| 08:08.08 | tarzeau | can't i tell bc to not print -.5 or .5 but -0.5 and 0.5 ? |
| 08:08.09 | StanTheMan | jm_: sry working on the colors...have it up in a sec |
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| 08:08.34 | nought | anyone attempted an upgrade from sarge to etch recently with the completed gcc transition? any problems? |
| 08:08.42 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: use 'grep -i aic7xxx /boot/config*'? |
| 08:08.51 | tarzeau | nought: i did several sarge to sid upgrades.. |
| 08:09.01 | ChrisW | I tried adding "deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable" to my sources.list, but that just caused "aptitude update" to barf :-( |
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| 08:09.15 | tarzeau | ChrisW: try another mirror or check the mirror goodness |
| 08:09.22 | jm_ | christel: download it manually, see if it isntalls cleanly |
| 08:09.27 | ChrisW | tarzeau: how'd I do that? |
| 08:09.29 | jm_ | ChrisW ^^^^^ |
| 08:09.38 | jm_ | or check backports |
| 08:09.42 | tarzeau | ChrisW: http://www.us.debian.org/mirror/ |
| 08:09.43 | ChrisW | jm_: download what, specifically? |
| 08:09.46 | nought | tarzeau> no problems then? |
| 08:09.49 | jm_ | ChrisW: fail2ban package ... |
| 08:09.59 | ChrisW | The debian package is here: |
| 08:10.00 | ChrisW | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/fail2ban |
| 08:10.01 | tarzeau | nought: i didn't try all 20000 packages. but the ones i need work perfectly |
| 08:10.06 | jm_ | yes |
| 08:10.06 | ChrisW | (well, the info anyway) |
| 08:10.07 | tarzeau | nought: i don't use any gnome/kde... |
| 08:10.14 | StanTheMan | jm_: but not necessarily those colors, as they look like crap. hehe. I'll play with the colors later and background color. |
| 08:10.21 | jbrouhard | streuner_, what does grep -i aic7xxx /boot/config* do ? |
| 08:10.24 | ChrisW | I just don't know how to turn that into something sane to add to sources.list |
| 08:10.29 | StanTheMan | jm_: http://www.hardwarefreak.com/maillog/example_html_log.htm |
| 08:10.34 | nought | thx, I heard of some trouble with nvidia drivers, but I'll figure that one out. thx again |
| 08:10.55 | streuner_ | jbrouhard: it shows us, is the module compiled into kernel or as module _OR_ it isn't in kernel at all |
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| 08:11.11 | jbrouhard | Well |
| 08:11.18 | jbrouhard | I know that aic7xxx gets loaded fine |
| 08:11.28 | tarzeau | ChrisW: telnet linuks.mine.nu for my sources.list |
| 08:11.30 | jbrouhard | hell, gentoo picks it up fine |
| 08:11.48 | jbrouhard | Maybe I should boot gentoo's liveCD and check to see what modules it loaded ? |
| 08:11.56 | streuner_ | gentoo isn't debian and vice versa |
| 08:12.02 | jbrouhard | I'm well aware of that :P |
| 08:12.02 | streuner_ | no |
| 08:12.20 | jbrouhard | kernel modules CANT be that different |
| 08:12.21 | ChrisW | tarzeau: ok, done, but how does that help me? ;-) |
| 08:12.34 | tarzeau | ChrisW: i don't know. i just pointed some mirrors are sometimes broken |
| 08:12.36 | ahewitt | hi guys, I am trying to connect to an external raid array via serial cable and if I use a windows machine with hyperterminal I can connect without dramas...but when I use minicom I get nothing and 'cu' allows me to connect but only shows me a periodic raid build % but only shows it once and then drops me back to the command prompt...under windows I am using 115200,8,N,1 and no flow control...I have tried the exact same settings with the linux server and |
| 08:12.41 | tarzeau | ChrisW: and i gave you the url where you can check |
| 08:12.48 | tarzeau | ChrisW: do you want me to check it for you? and feed you? |
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| 08:13.12 | ChrisW | I already checked the us mirror, no need to get shitty |
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| 08:14.00 | vorsprung | ahewitt, lower the speed |
| 08:14.01 | ChrisW | how does what I put in sources.list relate to the url aptitude actually tries to get stuff from? |
| 08:14.07 | tarzeau | nought: that usually goes fine. don't /msg me |
| 08:14.21 | tarzeau | ChrisW: it gets stuff from that url. |
| 08:14.25 | ahewitt | vorsprung: how will that help if it works fine on that speed in windows? |
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| 08:14.29 | tarzeau | ChrisW: and sometimes mirrors are broken |
| 08:14.45 | ChrisW | "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main" is not a url... |
| 08:14.57 | nought | srry |
| 08:15.31 | ChrisW | what happens to the "stable/updates" and "main" bits in relation to the " http://security.debian.org/" url when trying to download a package? |
| 08:16.33 | ChrisW | I even see fail2ban in http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz, but that doesn't help me with what to add t osources.list |
| 08:16.40 | ChrisW | what am I doing wrong? what am I missing? |
| 08:16.48 | StanTheMan | jm_: so I guess the regex for stop/stop of each transaction would be "connect:" and "disconnect:" |
| 08:16.56 | streuner_ | ChrisW: you didn't read what we told you |
| 08:17.07 | ChrisW | heh, which bit of it, specifically? |
| 08:17.15 | streuner_ | <streuner_> ChrisW: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 08:17.50 | ChrisW | yeah, I saw that, and that seems to imply a pretty long winded process... can I really not just add one line to sources.list to have this package available? |
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| 08:18.06 | StanTheMan | jm_: apt says I have the latest perl installed, so we should be good-to-go in that respect |
| 08:18.21 | ChrisW | besides, step one of what the dpkg snippet suggests doesn't help with figuring out what the url should be... |
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| 08:19.58 | streuner_ | well, some people gave you different solutions now, do you think the package comes automatically to your box and configure itself without typing something? |
| 08:20.15 | jm_ | StanTheMan: just a few mins, I am working on it |
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| 08:20.54 | Vyrus001 | ok.. i just did a freash deb install and there is no lspci command? what gives ? |
| 08:20.54 | ChrisW | streuner_: not sure what you mean |
| 08:21.12 | ChrisW | tarzeau was waffling about non-responsive mirrors, totally irrelevent here |
| 08:21.22 | StanTheMan | jm_: chillin. I have perl 5.8.4 it looks like, in usr/bin/ |
| 08:21.22 | streuner_ | no |
| 08:21.28 | ChrisW | the dpkg stuff seems pretty complicated, is there not a simpler way |
| 08:21.32 | streuner_ | he mentioned also backports |
| 08:21.45 | ChrisW | backports.org doesn't have the package listed :-/ |
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| 08:21.54 | tarzeau | ChrisW: you were told about simple backport long ago |
| 08:21.55 | ChrisW | neither apt-get.org |
| 08:21.58 | streuner_ | so use simple sid backport |
| 08:22.06 | ChrisW | tarzeau: yeah, and as I pointed out, it's not so simple ;-) |
| 08:22.07 | tarzeau | ChrisW: and yes if you are not detailed enough, that's not my fault |
| 08:22.18 | tarzeau | ChrisW: i still don't get what your problem is. |
| 08:22.28 | tarzeau | ChrisW: you should take a course on communication |
| 08:22.40 | ChrisW | pot kettle tarzeau |
| 08:22.59 | tarzeau | ChrisW: many people come here, tell their problem straigt and get helped within minutes. and you're just struggling |
| 08:23.00 | ChrisW | okay, even going for the "simple sid backport" option, how do I figure out what to put as the deb src line |
| 08:23.04 | StanTheMan | jm_: Though I can't imagine why, but just in case it might make a difference, I'm running woody with kernel 2.4.x on both the postfix and apache boxen. |
| 08:23.11 | tarzeau | ChrisW: telnet linuks.mine.nu has a src line |
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| 08:23.30 | tarzeau | ChrisW: what was the pkg again, i'll get you a backport |
| 08:23.40 | ChrisW | fail2ban |
| 08:23.51 | ChrisW | and yeah, I have a deb-src line in my sources.list too |
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| 08:24.13 | ChrisW | dpkg's how-to just says "a" deb-src line, that's not really very specific... |
| 08:24.20 | tarzeau | ChrisW: just wait |
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| 08:25.31 | quitte_ | Vyrus001: pciutils iirc |
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| 08:26.00 | tarzeau | ChrisW: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/chrisw/ |
| 08:26.20 | ChrisW | yeah, okay, now tell me how you did it... |
| 08:26.20 | ahewitt | so was the only idea to solve my serial terminal session problem was to lower the speed?? |
| 08:26.29 | tarzeau | ChrisW: i've used my autobackport script |
| 08:26.36 | Vyrus001 | quitte_, thanx :P |
| 08:26.37 | tarzeau | ChrisW: and then i said abp fail2ban |
| 08:26.54 | StanTheMan | jm_: and deb pkg apache 1.3.26 |
| 08:27.12 | ChrisW | okay, but I want to be able to to "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" to track changes |
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| 08:27.22 | tarzeau | ChrisW: look |
| 08:27.27 | tarzeau | ChrisW: you can't |
| 08:27.33 | ChrisW | why not? |
| 08:27.33 | tarzeau | ChrisW: or you learn sid or simple backporting |
| 08:27.45 | ChrisW | yeah, I'm trying to learn simple backporting |
| 08:27.47 | tarzeau | ChrisW: because stable doesn't get upstream changes, only security updates |
| 08:28.22 | ChrisW | but the package I want isn't _in_ stable ;-) |
| 08:28.33 | tarzeau | ChrisW: then you have to make backports |
| 08:28.39 | ChrisW | and yeah, I onyl really care about security updates |
| 08:28.40 | tarzeau | damn is that so hard? it's not even weekend |
| 08:28.45 | jm_ | StanTheMan: it's OK, we'll only use the very basic Perl functionality |
| 08:28.50 | quitte_ | it's a pitty though that you can't easily track source versions to autoate backporting |
| 08:28.51 | tarzeau | ChrisW: well if you pay me i'll do them for you |
| 08:29.11 | tarzeau | quitte_: why ? you can? at least i can |
| 08:29.35 | Sleeper | hi |
| 08:29.40 | quitte_ | tarzeau: how do you? the best way to be notified about what is new i found so far was some mailinglist |
| 08:29.51 | Sleeper | can anyone help me with my debian install |
| 08:30.03 | tarzeau | quitte_: what software are we talking about? |
| 08:30.25 | streuner_ | Sleeper: did you read ig? |
| 08:30.33 | quitte_ | tarzeau: packages that are installed on the system but available as newer versions in source |
| 08:30.35 | tarzeau | quitte_: the stuff i use doesn't appear in mailinglists or security realted places. and they don't release new versions every second week |
| 08:30.37 | StanTheMan | jm_: i'm looking through the maillog, and it appears that some transactions do NOT end with "disconnect", as some get interrupted by additional inbound connects. So, we probably should "key" on just "connect" for the start of a new transaction, and change colors only on "connect" |
| 08:30.41 | Sleeper | i need to install debian on my fujitsu-siemens RX100 S2 with an promise fasttrack fx4 |
| 08:30.48 | tarzeau | quitte_: debian does that for you in stable and testing |
| 08:30.51 | ChrisW | okay, I "/msg dpkg simple sid backport"'ed, and point 1 says " Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list.". I've got a deb-src line, but I'm guessing I need to add another to get the fail2ban package. How do I figure out what to add? |
| 08:30.51 | quitte_ | tarzeau: or even better available packages that have newer source |
| 08:30.56 | tarzeau | quitte_: and unstable gets the latest versions anyways? |
| 08:31.05 | tarzeau | quitte_: i've made some script to track that |
| 08:31.05 | quitte_ | tarzeau: not for sh3 |
| 08:31.08 | Sleeper | where do i get a driver for that controller |
| 08:31.26 | quitte_ | tarzeau: wooo. for exactly what i need? |
| 08:31.31 | streuner_ | drivers are an issue of the kernel itself |
| 08:31.39 | Maulkin | ChrisW: What line did you add? |
| 08:31.49 | streuner_ | if Linux support the chipset, debian does... |
| 08:31.52 | tarzeau | Maulkin: it's pointless |
| 08:31.59 | Maulkin | tarzeau: I'm bored :) |
| 08:32.01 | tarzeau | streuner_: also if freebsd supports it |
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| 08:32.16 | streuner_ | tarzeau: yeah :-) |
| 08:32.31 | jbrouhard | i think i shall get some sleep and beat this server up tomorrow |
| 08:32.43 | ChrisW | Maulkin: there was one there already, for stable, which I know won't be right, since fail2ban isn't _in_ stable, but the dpkg how-to isn't exactly helpful on telling you what you _should_ add... |
| 08:33.11 | ChrisW | tarzeau: wow, I bet you're a real popular guy ;-) |
| 08:33.17 | quitte_ | ChrisW: if you want sources from unstable add a deb-srcline for unstable |
| 08:33.25 | Sleeper | i found a fasttrack Fx4 driver for redhat and suse, but not for debian |
| 08:33.33 | lnc | how do you list hidden files in a directory with 'ls' ? |
| 08:33.40 | streuner_ | man ls |
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| 08:33.54 | ChrisW | quitte_: okay, but I'm paranoid about dragging everything from unstable, I just want this one package... |
| 08:34.01 | quitte_ | tarzeau: do you mind if i explain what i need in more detail and you tell me if you know how to do it? |
| 08:34.06 | StanTheMan | jm_: I was just thinking... If it's easier to leave everything "left of the colon" in the same color always, and just modify the coler of stuff "right of the colon" that would be cool |
| 08:34.06 | lnc | i didn't ask for manual |
| 08:34.07 | Maulkin | ChrisW: copy that line to a new one and repalce where it says "stable" with "unstable" |
| 08:34.13 | tarzeau | quitte_: go ahead |
| 08:34.22 | Maulkin | ChrisW: Or, go have a look at http://www.backports.org |
| 08:34.27 | quitte_ | ChrisW: debian doesn't install fromm source. you'd have to explicitly tell it to build |
| 08:34.40 | Maulkin | ChrisW: Make sure it's a "deb-src" line you copy though |
| 08:34.44 | streuner_ | We prefer go give other infos, not only 'fish'... |
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| 08:34.54 | ChrisW | Maulkin: already looked at backports.org, sadly it doesn't look like fail2ban is there :-/ |
| 08:34.57 | streuner_ | s/go/to/ |
| 08:34.58 | lnc | i got it |
| 08:35.00 | lnc | ls -a |
| 08:35.01 | lnc | :P |
| 08:35.02 | ChrisW | (unless you can tell me I'm missing something) |
| 08:35.08 | Maulkin | ChrisW: tried apt-get.org ? |
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| 08:35.20 | ChrisW | Maulkin: yep |
| 08:35.39 | quitte_ | tarzeau: i'm porting debian to sh3 and have quite some packages in the repository. now i'd like to have some script that tells me exactly which packages are outdated and should be built again. at the moment i'm doing this by waiting for dependencies breaking and then fixing them. |
| 08:35.40 | Maulkin | ChrisW: Right, you'll have to build ti yourself. |
| 08:35.43 | jm_ | StanTheMan: please try this first, and see if it does basic things, then we'll deal with enhancing it later if need be |
| 08:35.46 | Maulkin | ChrisW: Which arch are you on? |
| 08:36.03 | ChrisW | despite what tarzeau may suggest, I'm actually trying pretty hard, it's just frustrating when you don't know how ot ask a question that will elicit a sensible answer |
| 08:36.07 | ChrisW | i386 |
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| 08:36.24 | StanTheMan | jm_: k, thx man. |
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| 08:37.50 | ChrisW | The package is here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/fail2ban, but what's the point of using a debian package if it won't get updated by "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade"? |
| 08:38.05 | quitte | ChrisW: how about you start with finidng out how to build a package from stable first ? |
| 08:38.06 | tarzeau | ChrisW: for single packages you do it manually |
| 08:38.12 | tarzeau | ChrisW: if you have many more, you go sid |
| 08:38.24 | ChrisW | what's the current stable release? |
| 08:38.25 | tarzeau | ChrisW: if you need something better, hire a consultant |
| 08:38.26 | Maulkin | ChrisW: Hold. |
| 08:38.27 | tarzeau | !consultant |
| 08:38.31 | tarzeau | !consultants |
| 08:38.31 | dpkg | consultants is, like, http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 08:38.32 | tarzeau | ChrisW: there's none |
| 08:38.35 | quitte | ChrisW: you can make your own repository and use that with aptitude |
| 08:38.43 | tarzeau | ChrisW: there is many software of which there's no stable release yet. |
| 08:38.44 | StanTheMan | jm_: what should I name the file? and do I execute it with like "./script.pl maillog.txt"? |
| 08:38.56 | ChrisW | i meant the stable release of debian... |
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| 08:39.08 | tarzeau | ChrisW: it's called sarge |
| 08:39.15 | tarzeau | ChrisW: and it's like almost one year old |
| 08:39.18 | ChrisW | tarzeau: can you try taking at least one of the huge chips of your shoulder... |
| 08:39.23 | StanTheMan | jm_: is the script exepecting a specific input filiename? |
| 08:39.43 | tarzeau | ChrisW: what chips are you talking about. i'm not an native english speaker so don't come with slang |
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| 08:39.52 | ChrisW | right, debian has a slow process of becoming stable, I'm aware of that, but given that, should I maybe just install fail2ban from source? |
| 08:39.55 | tarzeau | ChrisW: i'm helping you and you're arsing me you know what? |
| 08:39.58 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes, $logfile is input file, $tgtfile is output file |
| 08:40.06 | streuner__ | tarzeau: use ignore |
| 08:40.06 | tarzeau | ChrisW: yes install it from source |
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| 08:40.20 | jm_ | StanTheMan: then just call it, no options needed |
| 08:40.20 | ChrisW | tarzeau: you may not be meaning to, but you're coming across as a prick... |
| 08:40.20 | tarzeau | streuner__: wait i just need to tell him to FUCK OFF first |
| 08:40.23 | tarzeau | ChrisW: FUCK OFF |
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| 08:40.31 | ChrisW | wow, that was mature :-) |
| 08:40.39 | tarzeau | ChrisW: i don't give a shit |
| 08:40.40 | stoned | tarzeau, calm yourself mate, fuck the fuckers, don't lose your cool :) |
| 08:40.44 | streuner__ | haha |
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| 08:41.11 | ChrisW | I'm sorry you can't help someone who doesn't have your level of understanding without loosing your cool and becoming abusive |
| 08:41.25 | stoned | chrisq, thats enough mate, cut it out |
| 08:41.27 | StanTheMan | jm_: so, for manual execution, "./log-html-script.pl maillog.txt maillog.htm" ?? |
| 08:41.31 | tarzeau | ChrisW: you're just ignoring all hints you get |
| 08:41.32 | Maulkin | ChrisW: right |
| 08:41.35 | stoned | ChrisW,* |
| 08:41.47 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no, edit the script to set filenames ;) |
| 08:41.52 | tarzeau | ChrisW: why do you ask for suggestions if you don't listen at all? |
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| 08:42.11 | unstable | !slap |
| 08:42.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, slap is a form of violence |
| 08:42.11 | StanTheMan | ;) |
| 08:42.13 | Maulkin | ChrisW: wget http://people.debian.org/~neilm/backports/fail2ban_0.6.1-1.0neilm1_all.deb && dpkg -i fail2ban_0.6.1-1.0neilm1_all.deb |
| 08:42.29 | ChrisW | dammit, why doesn't /ignore work on Trillian :-( |
| 08:42.30 | tarzeau | Maulkin: but you won't do him security updates |
| 08:42.30 | quitte | ChrisW: yctually you act like you don't even try to understand. you don'T pick up any new information at all and just ignore anything that doesn't tell you exactly what you want to hear which in your case seems to be repository of backport is there and it has security updates |
| 08:42.34 | tarzeau | Maulkin: it's hilarious |
| 08:42.40 | unstable | trillian is garbage |
| 08:42.43 | tarzeau | Maulkin: i've made him a backport too |
| 08:42.44 | streuner__ | i guess that's too hard for him too, Maulkin ;-) |
| 08:42.54 | unstable | !start an irc client war |
| 08:42.54 | dpkg | mIRC sucks |
| 08:42.58 | stoned | Is there any GUI interface for catagorically browsing the /var/logs area? |
| 08:43.09 | Maulkin | ChrisW: So... you want backports AND security fixes? |
| 08:43.12 | unstable | stoned: yes? |
| 08:43.17 | tarzeau | Maulkin: he want's a baby sitter |
| 08:43.23 | stoned | unstable, er.. is that a question? |
| 08:43.25 | tarzeau | !breastfeed ChrisW |
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| 08:43.33 | tarzeau | Maulkin: and a consultant. but he doesn't want to pay |
| 08:43.38 | unstable | stoned: There are many many programs that do what you're asking. |
| 08:43.45 | ChrisW | Maulkin: why else would you bother using debian packages? |
| 08:43.48 | unstable | stoned: what desktop enviroment or window manager do you use? |
| 08:43.58 | Maulkin | ChrisW: To avoid subverting dpkg |
| 08:43.59 | stoned | unstable, oh cool, obviously my search skils sux0r. Could you kindly tell me of some? |
| 08:44.09 | ChrisW | Maulkin: what does that mean? |
| 08:44.11 | Maulkin | ChrisW: and to provide updates at a later date |
| 08:44.12 | tarzeau | !why debian |
| 08:44.13 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 08:44.13 | stoned | unstable, I use kde |
| 08:44.21 | lekvar | tarzeau: finally worked... what was that player you mentioned before? |
| 08:44.35 | stoned | unstable, but it doesn't matter really, any gui is fine with me |
| 08:44.38 | tarzeau | lekvar: i like opencubicplayer |
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| 08:44.51 | sep | ChrisW, are you on drugs. even if i compile from source i make a package out of it before installing. dpkgs's advantage of easily removing/upgrading/instalřlnig software is uncompareable |
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| 08:44.53 | quitte | tarzeau: does that script you mentioneddo anything thatcould helpmewithmy problem? |
| 08:44.57 | ChrisW | does _anyone_ know how to get /ignore to work in Trillian's irc client |
| 08:44.59 | tomplast | hi, does anyone knows if there is any atract to mp3 converter for linux? |
| 08:45.06 | stoned | tarzeau, I checked it out, but I concluded that I like amarok more. I couldn't really find any uses for that opencube player |
| 08:45.17 | unstable | stoned: I prefer the command line, so I don't know of many guis for going through directories/reading files. |
| 08:45.23 | lekvar | Incidentally, what's the diff between discover1 and discover? |
| 08:45.23 | quitte | ChrisW: let me try if it works in irssi |
| 08:45.30 | unstable | But I bet tarzeau knows, he loves kde |
| 08:45.31 | ChrisW | Maulkin: okay, but from what I've heard, I don't get updates anyway, if I follow the "building my own backport from source" route, right? |
| 08:45.33 | tarzeau | quitte: no. it's not finished and i can't find it. i'm working on some other stuff, sorry |
| 08:45.37 | tomplast | guys :'(. i really want my mp3player to work in linux |
| 08:45.40 | tarzeau | unstable: you know i'm a wmaker/gnustep user |
| 08:45.56 | stoned | unstable, I have not evne 5$ for a new keyboard, and this one has some important keys missing, hehe, so I thought if I coudl just view my logs without typing too much |
| 08:45.57 | unstable | tarzeau: What is a gui this guy can use to go through directories and read files on kde? |
| 08:46.07 | gannon | tomplast-if your talking about a sony with the ATRAC encoding good luck |
| 08:46.07 | stoned | unstable, it will be alright next wekk, I get paid |
| 08:46.12 | tarzeau | unstable: hahaha. #debian-kde |
| 08:46.16 | Maulkin | ChrisW: correct |
| 08:46.22 | tarzeau | unstable: someone who wants to do that, should not be root |
| 08:46.27 | tarzeau | !for x |
| 08:46.27 | dpkg | All real programs run in a tty. If you want a program "for X", then put "xterm -e" in front of it. E.g., mail reader for x = "xterm -e mutt". |
| 08:46.30 | Maulkin | ChrisW: You can have updates or security+stability. |
| 08:46.30 | tomplast | gannon: :'( |
| 08:46.30 | superlinux | hi |
| 08:46.31 | superlinux | can u read me? |
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| 08:46.37 | tarzeau | !test superlinux |
| 08:46.37 | dpkg | Testing superlinux... ROM BASIC NOT FOUND$#$ |
| 08:46.39 | Maulkin | ChrisW: it's your choice reallt |
| 08:46.45 | Maulkin | *really |
| 08:46.51 | stoned | tarzeau, my reasons are justified :) |
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| 08:47.06 | tarzeau | stoned: it's for your mom? |
| 08:47.10 | ChrisW | Maulkin: agreed, so, given that there's no stable package for fail2ban, what advantages do I get for using a debian package? |
| 08:47.13 | stoned | tarzeau, the reason I don't know of one such gui, is because I have never seen the need, until now. Keybaord has missing keys |
| 08:47.15 | Maulkin | ChrisW: If you want something mroe up to date, I'd suggest installing Ubuntu |
| 08:47.16 | stoned | I can't type in paths |
| 08:47.18 | stoned | no slash |
| 08:47.20 | kynes | hi, my alt-gr key doesn't work |
| 08:47.24 | tarzeau | stoned: get a real keyboard |
| 08:47.26 | kynes | how can I fix this? |
| 08:47.35 | Maulkin | ChrisW: Wehn etch is released and you update to that, fail2ban will also update |
| 08:47.36 | tarzeau | kynes: xorg? |
| 08:47.38 | stoned | tarzeau, before you go off on me, read what I had said previously |
| 08:47.40 | streuner__ | kynes: try PC-105 |
| 08:47.42 | kynes | yes xorg |
| 08:47.42 | quitte | stoned: use a on screen keyboard |
| 08:47.44 | ChrisW | Maulkin: that wasn't what I asked ;-) |
| 08:47.49 | lekvar | sawfish-nognome... not found. GRRR> |
| 08:48.00 | Maulkin | Yes it was |
| 08:48.02 | Maulkin | 09:47 < ChrisW> Maulkin: agreed, so, given that there's no stable package for fail2ban, what advantages do I get for using a debian package? |
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| 08:48.05 | Maulkin | 09:47 < Maulkin> ChrisW: Wehn etch is released and you update to that, fail2ban will also update |
| 08:48.09 | stoned | quitte, damn, thats a good idea |
| 08:48.10 | ChrisW | I'm quite happy to install from source, I'm just wondering what the advantages of using a hand-rolled debian package from unstable are? |
| 08:48.18 | kynes | tarzeau : what do I have to do? |
| 08:48.23 | Maulkin | 09:47 < Maulkin> ChrisW: Wehn etch is released and you update to that, fail2ban will also update |
| 08:48.29 | tarzeau | !tell ChrisW about repeat |
| 08:48.48 | gannon | although it's not technically debian, does anyone know of a good tutorial or FAQ on setting up and configuring the DMZ 'orange' NIC in smoothwall express 2.0? |
| 08:48.59 | superlinux | tarzeau, i have a pppoe-server running and i wanna traffic shape per IP. and there are amny ppp devices that will be generated.. does that mean i have to stick to the ethN device? |
| 08:49.01 | ChrisW | Maulkin: sorry, missed that, how will fail2ban update if it's a hand-rolled backported debian package? |
| 08:49.02 | tarzeau | gannon: no |
| 08:49.06 | nought | and it's easier solving dependencies, earsier to remove and generally easier to have nothing but deb packs |
| 08:49.10 | sep | ChrisW, personaly i compile all sources on a testing box make dpkg packages out of them then install that packaeg on the production box. when i have tested that the package work as expected. sicne i dont want to clutter up productino gear with non needed packages (like compilers) |
| 08:49.16 | ChrisW | tarzeau: knock it off, numbnuts |
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| 08:49.19 | Maulkin | ChrisW: Cause of the versioning system. |
| 08:49.21 | sep | ChrisW, also you can install the same package on multiple servers |
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| 08:49.27 | tarzeau | ChrisW: did i talk to you? go fuck yourself |
| 08:49.29 | snk00sj | hi guys |
| 08:49.33 | sep | ChrisW, .deb's are more then upgrades |
| 08:49.39 | snk00sj | i am trying to find a away, to make sure the apache user can chmod files |
| 08:49.44 | tarzeau | ChrisW: read the channel rules before you talk |
| 08:49.45 | ChrisW | !repeat tarzeau |
| 08:49.52 | snk00sj | or files generated by php/apache are 777 modded |
| 08:49.52 | ChrisW | !smite tarzeau |
| 08:50.03 | ChrisW | wow, I can play with the bots too :-P |
| 08:50.07 | snk00sj | i tried php command chmod/chgrp, but i think i have limited permissions because the commands don't work |
| 08:50.16 | stoned | guys... c'mon, no fighting. use /ignore. there is a reason it exists. |
| 08:50.21 | nought | [getting hot here, brb] |
| 08:50.34 | superlinux | deos anybody know TCNG here? |
| 08:50.38 | ChrisW | sep: okay, I agree, if I was working with a cluster of machines, I see the point, but this is just one dev box on an adsl line ;-) |
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| 08:50.46 | kynes | what is the relation with alt-gr bug and xorg?? |
| 08:50.50 | StanTheMan | jm_: bash: ./maillog-html-conversion: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: Permission denied |
| 08:50.55 | ChrisW | stoned: can't get it to work, and I don't want to ignore dpkg anyway ;-) |
| 08:50.55 | tarzeau | kynes: yes there's a bug. checked BTS? |
| 08:51.04 | kynes | nope |
| 08:51.15 | stoned | ChrisW, no no no, don't address me, I don't want none of your crap |
| 08:51.16 | StanTheMan | jm_: i ran it while in su mode (root) |
| 08:51.22 | kynes | what's BTS? |
| 08:51.27 | sep | ChrisW, in that case it realty dosnt matter at all what you do. |
| 08:51.30 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 08:51.30 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 08:51.35 | kynes | ah ok |
| 08:51.59 | ChrisW | sep: true, but I like to do this "right" if I can, but here, there seems to be little win... |
| 08:52.02 | kynes | the earlier version did work without a problem though |
| 08:52.13 | Maulkin | ChrisW: I've already pointed out the advantage... |
| 08:52.35 | kynes | man I need that key... is there any fix? |
| 08:52.44 | Maulkin | ChrisW: You can also subscribe to the fail2ban package for email updates, so you know when there's been an update to the package. |
| 08:52.56 | ChrisW | okay, but it sounded like you guyswere saying the versioning thing, which I take to be "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade", won't work if I use a hand-rolled package? |
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| 08:53.12 | ChrisW | didn't know that, how'd I do that? |
| 08:53.16 | sep | dpkg .debs will prevent your sources to overwrite other packages files. it will keep your software consistent, it will make it easier to remoev, (incase if conflicts with a future upgrade of other packages) and since it's so easy it's realy no reason not too |
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| 08:53.44 | ChrisW | sep: okay, also agreed, but fail2ban is a bout 1 python script if I understand correctly ;-) |
| 08:54.16 | jm_ | StanTheMan: huh? can you run that manually (perl)? |
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| 08:54.39 | davi_ | Is there a package to install QuickForm or must I do by hand: pear install HTML_Common HTML_QuickForm ? |
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| 08:55.08 | jbrouhard | I'm wondering if this is a good idea or bad idea for getting debian installed on a server that has a SCSI RAID card that Debian-Installer can't pick up |
| 08:55.08 | Maulkin | ChrisW: We've given you the reasons for using a Debian package, now if you don't want to, that's your call. |
| 08:55.09 | sep | ChrisW, so it would depend on python at the very least. pity if it broke your authentication becosue of a python upgrade. :) |
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| 08:55.23 | jbrouhard | I put in an older card, which works with the installer, and am getting ready to instal Debian. |
| 08:55.32 | jbrouhard | however, when i finish, I can custom the kernel and see if it works ? |
| 08:55.37 | jbrouhard | is that a good idea or bad ? |
| 08:55.50 | StanTheMan | jm_: define run manually. If I "./usr/bin/perl" I get a blank line, and then nothing on the console. Ctrl+C returns me to bash prompt. |
| 08:55.50 | voltagex | is there any way to find out what is using a drive (i.e. why I can't umount it?) ? |
| 08:55.52 | ChrisW | sep: indeed, although python backwards compatability is pretty good ;-) |
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| 08:56.18 | davi_ | jm_, Is there a package to install QuickForm or must I do by hand: pear install HTML_Common HTML_QuickForm ? |
| 08:56.35 | StanTheMan | jm_: what should i see in my console after executing "./usr/bin/perl" ? |
| 08:56.40 | voltagex | davi_: isn't that a question for #php ? |
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| 08:57.05 | voltagex | hi simonrvn |
| 08:57.23 | davi_ | voltagex, I would like to know if Debian Sarge offer a package to install it, or it is installed via pear itself |
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| 08:57.40 | voltagex | davi_: ah. I always use pear. |
| 08:57.48 | davi_ | thanks voltagex |
| 08:58.11 | voltagex | is there any way to find out what is using a drive (i.e. why I can't umount it?) ? (sorry for the repeat this is really annoying me) |
| 08:58.20 | Maulkin | voltagex: tried lsof? |
| 08:58.31 | jbrouhard | Guys, i could use a quick answer, since I'm about to log off here... is it a bad idea to install an older card JUST TO install Debian? |
| 08:58.43 | jbrouhard | Cause I could put the newer one in after I customized the kernel... |
| 08:58.51 | voltagex | Maulkin: not yet, didn't know about that command. |
| 08:59.09 | Maulkin | voltagex: there you go then :) |
| 08:59.10 | quitte | jbrouhard: the raidcontrollerscould be incompatible |
| 08:59.22 | jbrouhard | quitte, they probably are.. one's newer than the other. |
| 08:59.23 | voltagex | Maulkin: command not found |
| 08:59.23 | jm_ | davi_: what is this? |
| 08:59.26 | lekvar | Anyone know a way to install sawfish w/o getting the whole gnome spread? |
| 08:59.28 | jbrouhard | But if i custom the kernel, could that work ? |
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| 08:59.39 | jm_ | StanTheMan: ok so that works, now you need to find out why the script fails |
| 08:59.40 | Maulkin | voltagex: apt-get install lsof |
| 08:59.58 | voltagex | Maulkin: just entered that. gotta love apt-get |
| 09:00.13 | quitte | jbrouhard: there is some way to make installers with a custom kernel |
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| 09:00.18 | StanTheMan | jm_: the permission denied thing stumps me...i was logged in as root at the time.... |
| 09:00.20 | Maulkin | voltagex: read "man lsof" after it's installed |
| 09:00.26 | jbrouhard | Well, yeah |
| 09:00.29 | jbrouhard | but i don't have that much time :) |
| 09:01.04 | quitte | jbrouhard: i'dmake a tarball and copy it over to the raid |
| 09:01.22 | voltagex | well ok, but there's no reference to /dev/hdb1 but mount says it's busy |
| 09:01.47 | jbrouhard | quitte, I could do a chroot environment using a liveCD :) |
| 09:02.26 | jm_ | StanTheMan: maybe it's on some partition mounted with noexec? |
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| 09:03.13 | StanTheMan | jm_: nah, i put the script file in my home dir |
| 09:03.49 | stoned | well whaddya know |
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| 09:04.07 | stoned | a little bit of superglue on a broken piece will fix it. I just fixed my keyboard |
| 09:04.09 | StanTheMan | jm_: ahhh wait... -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1186 Apr 11 03:50 maillog-html-conversion |
| 09:04.09 | stoned | mUAHAHA! |
| 09:04.19 | voltagex | help :S it won't umount |
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| 09:04.43 | Maulkin | voltagex: run: |
| 09:04.59 | Maulkin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:05.05 | StanTheMan | jm_: i'm guessing I should see an x in there, so I need to chmod that file eh? |
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| 09:05.38 | voltagex | mount | grep /dev/hdb1|awk '{print $3}'|xargs lsof |
| 09:05.48 | voltagex | gah. copy paste auto pastes again |
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| 09:05.49 | StanTheMan | !chmod |
| 09:05.50 | dpkg | If you do not know how to use chmod but ask for a lesson in "Chmod 101" classes, we feel sorry for you, or simple octal, with r=4 w=2 x=1. rwxr-xr-- = (rwx) (r-x) (r--) = (4+2+1) (4+0+1) (4+0+0) = 754 |
| 09:06.11 | TraceGreen | Hello, where can i get my sound card type in /proc? |
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| 09:06.27 | voltagex | awsome, got it |
| 09:06.29 | Maulkin | TraceGreen: personally, I'd use lspci :) |
| 09:06.40 | voltagex | Maulkin: what the hell was that command? |
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| 09:07.06 | TraceGreen | Maulkin, i don't have lspci in a livecd |
| 09:07.08 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes |
| 09:07.15 | Maulkin | voltagex: show all mount points, select /dev/hdb1, extract where it's mountes, and run lsof on ther |
| 09:07.18 | Maulkin | *that |
| 09:07.36 | Maulkin | voltagex: lsof works on directories, not devide nodes |
| 09:07.51 | Maulkin | TraceGreen: Which livecd are you using? |
| 09:08.23 | voltagex | oh! |
| 09:08.23 | SimonRaven | TraceGreen: try cat /proc/pci |
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| 09:09.46 | TraceGreen | SimonRaven, /proc/pci? are you sure? |
| 09:10.25 | SimonRaven | of course. it might not be there, it's a legacy thing |
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| 09:11.08 | TraceGreen | ok |
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| 09:14.23 | g0w | Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 09:14.23 | g0w | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 09:14.23 | g0w | is only available from another source |
| 09:14.29 | g0w | what is this mean? |
| 09:14.37 | jm_ | it means what it says |
| 09:14.42 | jm_ | apt-cache search irssi |
| 09:14.48 | stoned | you need irssi-text |
| 09:14.51 | stoned | ;) |
| 09:15.05 | g0w | E: Couldn't find package irsii-text |
| 09:15.08 | g0w | same prob |
| 09:15.15 | stoned | HAH! |
| 09:15.18 | quitte | g0w: try with anothers |
| 09:15.21 | quitte | g0w: try with another "s" |
| 09:15.22 | stoned | unlucky! |
| 09:15.36 | voltagex | irssi-text |
| 09:15.48 | Diazepam | guys i cant seem to get audio when watching web videos any ideas? |
| 09:15.55 | stoned | Diazepam, in flash? |
| 09:16.07 | jm_ | Diazepam: use ALSA + dmix and tell your browser to use aoss wrapper |
| 09:16.22 | stoned | jm_, I have this problem with flash, what exactly is the solution again? |
| 09:16.40 | StanTheMan | jm_: http://www.hardwarefreak.com/maillog/maillog.html |
| 09:16.42 | stoned | I have alsa, not dmix or aoss, I go look those up |
| 09:17.10 | stoned | !search dmix |
| 09:17.18 | stoned | its not showing up |
| 09:17.26 | stoned | which package contains dmix? |
| 09:17.29 | StanTheMan | jm_: it looks like the script isn't liking text in the source log file that is enclosed in <> |
| 09:17.31 | jm_ | stoned: I did the above and it helps |
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| 09:17.37 | jm_ | !tell stoned -about dmix |
| 09:18.05 | jm_ | StanTheMan: ahh yes, HTML shit, those should be replaced with < and > |
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| 09:20.01 | stoned | tell your browser to use aoss wrapper, thats a bit vague mate? please elaborate? I can't find anything on it |
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| 09:20.17 | Diazepam | !tell diazepam -about dmix |
| 09:20.49 | jm_ | ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc |
| 09:20.54 | jm_ | FIREFOX_DSP=aoss |
| 09:21.17 | stoned | never mind |
| 09:21.19 | stoned | I'm blind man |
| 09:21.32 | StanTheMan | jm_: kinda lost me there.... I need to replace what in the while loop with < and >? |
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| 09:24.05 | jm_ | StanTheMan: add this as first line of the loop: s/</\</g; s/>/\>/g; |
| 09:24.24 | StanTheMan | jm_: oh, what charset is courier new? UTF-?? I'd like a fixed width font |
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| 09:25.21 | jm_ | StanTheMan: to change that, simply add <pre> after <body> or appropriate <font> tag |
| 09:26.01 | StanTheMan | jm_: add it in a new line right above the line "if (/: connect from/) {" ??? |
| 09:26.18 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes |
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| 09:29.11 | StanTheMan | jm_: so: printf(OUTF "</font=Courier New>\n"); ? |
| 09:30.34 | StanTheMan | jm_: or printf(OUTF "<body><pre>\n"); ?? |
| 09:30.51 | ciphernaut | is there a way to setup wireless/wpa_supplicant so that dhcp doesnt time out the first few times? |
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| 09:31.25 | bliss1__ | hey |
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| 09:32.47 | bliss1__ | If I have given root priligages to a file what is the comand line to revoke those root privlages |
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| 09:33.15 | bliss1__ | liable: hello |
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| 09:33.31 | jm_ | StanTheMan: I'd use second, first one looks wrong and should probably be like <font face=\"foo\"> |
| 09:33.39 | roxy_ | bliss1__: do you mean setuid ? |
| 09:33.39 | sep | bliss1__, you mean setuid ? man chmod |
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| 09:35.53 | bliss1__ | the file is ./demoCA/private/cakey.pem |
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| 09:36.37 | jm_ | chown and/or chmod |
| 09:36.38 | sep | !confuse bliss1__ |
| 09:36.39 | dpkg | Yes, how was their mushroom tomorrow, bliss1__? wellies of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra cheese |
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| 09:36.56 | possie | is there a environment variable that holds the paths of the include directorys? cause i have a ./configure file which doesnt execute successfully because it doesn't find a certain .h file even though i till it where to find it |
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| 09:37.09 | StanTheMan | jm_: whoaa... well the missing stuff in <> is back, but boy did we mess something up with <pre> it appears. Refresh your browser to see what i mean. |
| 09:37.13 | bliss1__ | dpkg: ? |
| 09:37.37 | liable | bliss1__: hi |
| 09:37.44 | roxy_ | bliss1__: CA has nothing to do with root privilege, what are you talking about exactly ? |
| 09:37.53 | StanTheMan | jm_: that's funny. Lost of double spacing, and lines that are 5 screens wide haha |
| 09:38.15 | jm_ | StanTheMan: that's the point of pre, so you should use font face thing if you want it to be wrapped etc |
| 09:38.15 | stoned | jm_, thank you very much, I have finally audio in firefox flash videos |
| 09:38.21 | roxy_ | bliss1__: are you doing web server, java ... ? |
| 09:38.27 | StanTheMan | jm_: k |
| 09:38.27 | stoned | and my lip is bleeding |
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| 09:38.48 | bliss1__ | roxy: no I will but it in a pastebin |
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| 09:40.40 | bliss1__ | roxy_ http://pastebin.ca/48998 |
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| 09:41.33 | bliss1__ | liable hello |
| 09:41.34 | stoned | http://tinyurl.com/oh4ey << very funny video clip |
| 09:42.07 | roxy_ | bliss1__: you need to be careful when asking for help. You didn't mention openSSl once :-) |
| 09:42.12 | sep | bliss1__, the user you ran openssl as must be able to read the file chown the file to that user man chown, and make sure it's readable man chmod |
| 09:42.46 | bliss1__ | sep: thanks twice |
| 09:43.19 | sep | bliss1__, keep min mind that keyfiles should never be world readable |
| 09:43.39 | bliss1__ | sep: yep ok thanks |
| 09:44.17 | StanTheMan | jm_: where should I insert this <font face="Courier New" size="2"> in the script file? on a line right below "<meta http-equiv=\......" ?? |
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| 09:44.47 | jm_ | StanTheMan: instead of <pre> |
| 09:45.21 | StanTheMan | jm_: yes, but where do I insert it? |
| 09:45.34 | StanTheMan | jm_: after <body> ?? |
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| 09:47.58 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes, that's where you have put <pre>, right? |
| 09:48.12 | StanTheMan | jm_: yes |
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| 09:49.51 | StanTheMan | jm_: well, perl don't like this line: printf(OUTF "<body><font face="Courier New" size="2">\n"); apparently the syntax is incorrect |
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| 09:50.25 | StanTheMan | jm_: lots of "missing operator" errors |
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| 09:54.01 | aredhel | StanTheMan, try printf(OUTF "<body><font face=\"Courier New\" size=\"2\">\n"); |
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| 09:54.32 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes, escape '"' |
| 09:54.42 | dingoes | hi ..somone knows a edonkey client for console?? |
| 09:54.57 | StanTheMan | jm_: hehe I was just looking at the page source from FireFox, and keyed on the line you just mentioned |
| 09:54.59 | dingoes | like Cedonkey?? |
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| 09:56.53 | fluxdude | when you run hdparm -T and it shows you the speed of a cached read, is that cache from ram or cache from the on disk cache? |
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| 09:58.01 | jm_ | fluxdude: from the man page -- This displays the speed of reading directly from the Linux buffer cache without disk access. |
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| 09:59.48 | StanTheMan | jm_: yes, escape "" is eluding me. I just copy/pasted the line you typed here into vi session. The resulting HTML output is still in times roman, not courier |
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| 10:01.09 | jm_ | StanTheMan: try using face =\"courier\", I am really not familiar with HTML beyond what was available in 1996 |
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| 10:05.18 | Malagmyr | 1996? Good year. |
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| 10:07.54 | StanTheMan | jm_: hmmmm.... |
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| 10:08.03 | avtobiff | StanTheMan, problems with html? |
| 10:08.58 | Deffie | anyone knows a bootdisk with aacraid support builtin ? |
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| 10:09.28 | StanTheMan | avtobiff: yes, unfortunately.... can't seem to get the right font from within this nice perl script that jm_ was kind enough to create for me |
| 10:10.05 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no need to mess with the script for now, simply modify generated html file until you get it right, and then adapt the script |
| 10:10.26 | StanTheMan | jm_: good point |
| 10:10.38 | StanTheMan | jm_: kinda "reverse engineering" eh? ;) |
| 10:10.42 | jm_ | maybe check how sites do it on the net |
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| 10:11.53 | StanTheMan | jm_: well i know how to set the fonts if I'm creating a static HTML page. I just don't know the syntax for perl to get it in that script in the right place, and syntax |
| 10:12.03 | johnnybezak | hey guys, I'm trying to work out this firewire drive. Is there anyway for me to test to see if Linux sees the drive at all, like an "lspci" but for firewire? |
| 10:12.18 | vorsprung | StanTheMan, perl syntax I can do |
| 10:12.27 | jm_ | StanTheMan: then do it and we'll tell you how to do it in Perl |
| 10:12.48 | wdamn | johnnybezak: I can't understand your real problem |
| 10:12.50 | vorsprung | StanTheMan, what output is needed and what does the line to generate it currently look like |
| 10:12.58 | jm_ | johnnybezak: gscanbus - scan IEEE1394 (firewire/i.link) bus |
| 10:13.02 | StanTheMan | wow, I've never had so many peeps so eager to help. you guys are awesome |
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| 10:13.27 | StanTheMan | gimme a sec |
| 10:13.27 | johnnybezak | jm_: ok cool |
| 10:13.59 | Cicero_ | hello, i tried to compile the verisign payflow pro sdk into my php on a debian sarge box. the problem now is , that when i look at the lpfpro.so file with ldd .. that the library linux-gate.so.1 is missing. what i wonder about is, that on 3 other debian sarge boxes it worked to compile. only on that box it doesnt. anyone any idea about that ? |
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| 10:15.21 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:15.21 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 10:16.45 | TGoC | Hello, i'm running debian sarge, and i have 500mb memory, wich is enough. After reboot it only uses like 180m and a few days later it only has 80mb left. i made a printscreen of my top wich can be found at: http://85.146.48.221/memory.png |
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| 10:17.12 | jm_ | goc;it means it's working as it should |
| 10:17.17 | jm_ | TGoC ^^^^ |
| 10:17.20 | johnnybezak | jm_: when I do that is says that I don't have raw1394 support in the kernel or it's not loaded as a module, what should I do? |
| 10:17.48 | jm_ | johnnybezak: load it? |
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| 10:18.16 | johnnybezak | jm_: how? ^_^ |
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| 10:18.23 | jm_ | johnnybezak: man modprobe |
| 10:18.36 | johnnybezak | jm_: haha damn! |
| 10:19.00 | johnnybezak | jm_: how did I know you were going to say that |
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| 10:19.21 | StanTheMan | ready guys? |
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| 10:19.37 | vyrus001 | anybody here know where to get drivers for "VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter"... so far all i can figure is i need the "viafb" driver i think but its a pritty thin source |
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| 10:20.25 | StanTheMan | it looks like we need another printf(OUTF); line after the printf(OUTF "<body>\n"); line |
| 10:21.03 | StanTheMan | like this: <font face="Courier New" size="2"> |
| 10:21.16 | jm_ | vyrus001: via driver supports some Unichrome chips |
| 10:21.47 | vyrus001 | jm_, yea ... i tried using the via driver... |
| 10:21.52 | StanTheMan | but we need to insert that in perl syntax into a line like printf(OUTF <font face="Courier New" size="2">); ?? something like that? |
| 10:22.15 | vyrus001 | jm_, it looked like sombody ate the technicolor dream coat and threw it up all over my screen |
| 10:22.23 | jm_ | StanTheMan: printf(OUTF "<font face=\"Courier New\" size=\"2\">\n") |
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| 10:22.41 | jm_ | vyrus001: yeah it might mean you need a newer version of the driver |
| 10:23.09 | vyrus001 | jm_, hm... anyway to do a ver on an xorg driver (btw this install is a total of 3 horus old :p) |
| 10:23.11 | jm_ | StanTheMan: add ; at the end |
| 10:23.32 | jm_ | vyrus001: check version of xserver-xorg package |
| 10:23.35 | StanTheMan | already did ;) |
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| 10:26.30 | StanTheMan | ok, I think i figured out what's going on |
| 10:26.39 | StanTheMan | nothing we'd tried is working |
| 10:26.41 | vyrus001 | jm_, what version am i looking for ? |
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| 10:26.51 | coollinux | hi |
| 10:26.52 | StanTheMan | looking at the resulting HTML file, here's what is killing the font |
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| 10:26.57 | coollinux | anybody here uses NCURSES LIB |
| 10:27.11 | jm_ | vyrus001: I don't know, you tell me |
| 10:27.19 | coollinux | i am having issues with gui update in thread |
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| 10:27.22 | bcc | hi guys, is there a compressed read/write filesystem that can be mounted as a file on ext2? |
| 10:27.42 | jm_ | bcc: yes, using loop mounts ... |
| 10:27.49 | bcc | right |
| 10:28.03 | StanTheMan | the subroutine print_header() appears to be called BEFORE we get to the line printf(OUTF "<font face=\"Courier New\" size=\"2\">\n"); |
| 10:28.15 | bcc | but i can't seem to find a r/w compressed filesystem |
| 10:28.21 | bcc | all of them seem to be read-only |
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| 10:28.25 | vyrus001 | jm_, looks up to date t ome |
| 10:28.47 | vyrus001 | jm_, version 6.9.0 |
| 10:29.05 | StanTheMan | the reason I think this is that I'm getting a line in the resulting HTML file with a </font> way up at the top of the file. when the browser encounters </font> it's assuming this is the END of formatting |
| 10:29.18 | StanTheMan | so we got the chicken's ass before its head i think |
| 10:29.20 | jm_ | vyrus001: yeah more or less |
| 10:29.48 | vyrus001 | jm_, any other ideas other than waiting for a newer version to come out that works :P |
| 10:30.02 | vyrus001 | jm_, ive got it running over vesa but id like to actuly use some of my drivers features ya know ? |
| 10:30.06 | jm_ | vyrus001: well first find out if you have a chip supported by the driver |
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| 10:30.32 | DeadS0ul | hi, does anyone know if nfs-kernel-server in sarge supports acls ? |
| 10:30.33 | blondie | !gentoo |
| 10:30.33 | dpkg | it has been said that gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or ... |
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| 10:32.14 | vyrus001 | jm_, as far as i can tell from lspci, ive got a K8M800... which they say is suported |
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| 10:33.38 | StanTheMan | jm_: why do we have this in the while loop? printf(OUTF "</font>\n"); |
| 10:33.51 | jm_ | vyrus001: unfortunatelly the best people to discuss this would be driver authors, because they know the details, alternatively, man via lists some options you can tinker with |
| 10:34.09 | jm_ | StanTheMan: to cancel the effect of previous font color=foo |
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| 10:34.32 | vyrus001 | jm_, hm oh well thanx for the info |
| 10:34.37 | vyrus001 | perhaps ill hit up the devs |
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| 10:36.15 | StanTheMan | jm_: ok. What is happening is that is getting called before we ever declair the default font face. The resulting HTML file is getting a </font> inserted at the very top of the file, right after<body>, and BEFORE the first <font color="red">. |
| 10:36.24 | coollinux | NCURSE help where to seek |
| 10:36.28 | coollinux | NCURSEs help where to seek |
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| 10:36.50 | jm_ | StanTheMan: does it work if you cancel the first </font> line? |
| 10:36.51 | StanTheMan | jm_: the while loop I mean, is what is getting called |
| 10:37.15 | jm_ | StanTheMan: try commenting it out in perl, maybe it works fine without the /font thing, I never tested it |
| 10:37.23 | jm_ | coolin;man pages? |
| 10:37.48 | fluxdude | I've got in my logs: "kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device" |
| 10:37.51 | fluxdude | is my disk boned or is it just a partition problem? |
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| 10:39.32 | darylhobbs | I have a server to set up and I was wondering what distribution to install? |
| 10:40.20 | TGoC | Hello, i'm running debian sarge, and i have 500mb memory, wich is enough. After reboot it only uses like 180m and a few days later it only has 80mb left. i made a printscreen of my top wich can be found at: http://85.146.48.221/memory.png Can someone help me decide wether my memory is being wasted or that i should buy more ram |
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| 10:41.11 | xDCDx | hello |
| 10:41.11 | StanTheMan | JM_: can you take a look at your perl source for a second? It looks like you're calling the while loop BEFORE we do all the HTML page setup declarations. Should I move "sub print_header {" down below "printf(OUTF "<body>\n"); ? |
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| 10:41.17 | xDCDx | what's the difference between 'cat <<EOF' and 'cat<<-EOF', if any? |
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| 10:41.39 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no, that part is just fine ;) |
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| 10:42.09 | johnnybezak | hey guys I've got an external firewire dvd burner and I'm pretty sure that it is recognized by linux, I just don't think that my user has access to it, how can I find out what file it is in /dev so I can check the permissions? |
| 10:42.18 | jm_ | StanTheMan: first comes declaration of the function and then we call it before the loop |
| 10:42.37 | jm_ | johnnybezak: cat /proc/partitions |
| 10:42.39 | StanTheMan | jm_: according to the acutal HTML being created, I don't think it is, because that initial "</font>" is being written before we ever print any text to the file. |
| 10:43.20 | flosch | hi |
| 10:43.20 | roxy_ | johnnybezak: or try to access as root, if you can't it is not a permission pb. |
| 10:43.24 | Myon | xDCDx: iirc in one form, $variables get expanded |
| 10:43.51 | tarzeau | RichiH: http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ |
| 10:43.57 | johnnybezak | roxy_: yeah I'm just trying to think of a way to access it as root |
| 10:44.25 | johnnybezak | jm_: what should I be looking for there is like a bunch of hda's and 3 dm-*s |
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| 10:45.19 | tombs | hi all |
| 10:45.35 | jm_ | StanTheMan: let me see |
| 10:45.44 | jm_ | johnnybezak: probably SCSI device |
| 10:46.06 | StanTheMan | jm_: what's the purpose of the <base href=\"http://www.hardwarefreak.com/maillog/example_maillog.txt\">\n"); ? |
| 10:46.30 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no that's from the loop |
| 10:46.38 | jm_ | StanTheMan: remove that, too much copy and pasting |
| 10:46.53 | johnnybezak | jm_: so not the dm* ? |
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| 10:48.07 | jm_ | johnnybezak: I doubt it, check what those devices are |
| 10:48.47 | johnnybezak | jm_: how? |
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| 10:51.03 | jm_ | johnnybezak: lots of info in /sys/block |
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| 10:53.58 | StanTheMan | jm_: http://www.hardwarefreak.com/maillog/maillog.html |
| 10:54.09 | jm_ | StanTheMan: what about it? |
| 10:54.23 | StanTheMan | jm_: refresh it |
| 10:54.25 | StanTheMan | ;) |
| 10:54.54 | StanTheMan | see? |
| 10:55.00 | StanTheMan | we did it |
| 10:55.03 | StanTheMan | works now |
| 10:55.12 | jm_ | StanTheMan: right |
| 10:55.46 | jm_ | StanTheMan: doesn't seem it's working quite right |
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| 10:56.27 | StanTheMan | jm_: it was the printf(OUTF "</font>"); in the loop. I deleted it, and now it works |
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| 10:56.46 | StanTheMan | jm_: define "quite right" It looks great on my FireFox Win32 |
| 10:56.47 | johnnybezak | ok guys I'm stuck, when I boot up gscanbus it shows a device connected to firewire, but I can't use it. I'm not sure how to continue any ideas? |
| 10:57.12 | jm_ | StanTheMan: check stuff after Apr 10 23:24:31 |
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| 10:59.33 | StanTheMan | jm_: euuwww you're right |
| 11:00.21 | stoffell | hm, is interoperation between openswan (on debian stock kernel) and checkpoint known to be working? |
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| 11:05.27 | Dunedan | Does anybody know why UTF-8 is broken after the last update of "locales" on Debian unstable? |
| 11:05.56 | Myon | Dunedan: last time I checked there was a bug report |
| 11:06.26 | Dunedan | ok, seems that I have to wait, until that bug is fixed |
| 11:06.33 | Dunedan | thx for your fast answer |
| 11:07.29 | Shadowcat | broken? |
| 11:07.33 | Shadowcat | since when? |
| 11:07.51 | Martiini | There's been a strange thing with my box since I bought it - All movement on the screen creates noice and buzzing in headphones (like in movies when something is downloading or whatever) |
| 11:07.59 | Dunedan | I made an update yesterday and after that UTF-8 doesn't work anymore. |
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| 11:08.14 | Shadowcat | Dunedan: I just installed debian yesturday |
| 11:08.17 | Shadowcat | no problems at all |
| 11:08.51 | Dunedan | Shadowcat: but an installation isn't an update ;-) |
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| 11:09.11 | Shadowcat | no, it's worse than an update if anything breaks |
| 11:09.13 | Shadowcat | and nothing broke |
| 11:09.25 | sparcmoz | anyone can help me? reportbug fails ;( sun:/usr/bin# reportbug Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 36, in ? import sys, os ImportError: No module named os |
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| 11:10.27 | Dunedan | all my LC now look like this: "LC_CTYPE="POSIX"". And when I change it and also change the locale.gen, after a reboot it looks so strange (in my eyes) again |
| 11:10.59 | sparcmoz | File "/usr/sbin/update-gconf-defaults", line 11, in ? import os ImportError: No module named os |
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| 11:13.04 | StanTheMan | jm_: I'm still trying to figure that out. Looking at the source from firefox (view source), it looks right. There's nothing inconsistent above and below that 23:24:31 entry. It all follows the same pattern.... |
| 11:13.33 | jm_ | StanTheMan: does it alter the colour using <font> tag? |
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| 11:14.39 | StanTheMan | jm_: it alters color with <font color="color"> |
| 11:14.49 | jm_ | StanTheMan: so it says green but it remains red? |
| 11:14.54 | StanTheMan | yep |
| 11:15.04 | jm_ | then we maybe need </font> entries back |
| 11:15.15 | StanTheMan | at 23:27:17 entry |
| 11:15.20 | jm_ | either that, or thre's some othe runescaped character fucking it up |
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| 11:15.33 | StanTheMan | that's what I've been searching for |
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| 11:15.39 | nkuttler | sparcmoz: hm... sounds like your pyhon installation is broken or maybe one of your environment variables |
| 11:15.43 | jm_ | StanTheMan: try running tidy on it |
| 11:15.55 | StanTheMan | why would it work damn near all the way through the file, and then barf unexpectedly? |
| 11:15.58 | jm_ | then again, maybe not :) |
| 11:16.13 | nkuttler | sparcmoz: do you have /usr/lib/python2.3/os.py? |
| 11:16.17 | jm_ | StanTheMan: something different in one of those lines causing the problem |
| 11:16.22 | StanTheMan | jm_: what browser you using? |
| 11:16.26 | sparcmoz | nkuttler, ok, i will check that thanks |
| 11:16.30 | jm_ | StanTheMan: firefox |
| 11:16.33 | TBBle | Dunedan: You're sshing in? |
| 11:16.47 | StanTheMan | jm_: lemme try internet exploder |
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| 11:17.16 | Dunedan | no, I'm "real" next to the pc ;-) |
| 11:17.24 | sparcmoz | nkuttler, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21029 2006-03-08 03:18 /usr/lib/python2.3/os.py |
| 11:17.43 | StanTheMan | jm_: all be god damn |
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| 11:17.57 | StanTheMan | jm_: looks like we get to file a bug report with Mozilla |
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| 11:18.13 | TBBle | Dunedan: Weird... Recent locales update moved locales stuff from /etc/environment to /etc/default/locales... I know SSH's pam.d files aren't updated yet... Check your /etc/pam.d/login |
| 11:18.16 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no, if it looks fine in IE it just means the resulting HTML is fucked and IE is more forgiving about it |
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| 11:18.24 | toxic_ | Why doesn't this add something to the log: [ tail -f /var/log/auth.log -n 12 | grep ssh --line-buffered | cut -b 39- > text.log ] when I get the output printed on stdout if I remove the last "> text.log" |
| 11:18.31 | TBBle | Dunedan: There should be two pam_env.so lines. One for /etc/environement and one for the locales one. |
| 11:18.33 | StanTheMan | jm_: it works perfectly in Internet Exploder 6.0 |
| 11:18.44 | Dunedan | oh, thx, I will have a look |
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| 11:19.05 | StanTheMan | jm_: are you absolutely sure about that? |
| 11:19.14 | jm_ | StanTheMan: let's say 95% |
| 11:19.27 | StanTheMan | jm_: did you look at the resulting HTML? the source looks right |
| 11:19.37 | nix | whats an easy way to assign a random integer within a definable range to a variable on commandline? e.g. something like randomnumber=`rand 20-30`? |
| 11:19.52 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no, I'll check it later at home if it will still be available |
| 11:19.56 | SimonRaven | IE's renderer is crap anyway |
| 11:20.04 | jm_ | nix: are you using bash? |
| 11:20.08 | nix | jm_: sure:) |
| 11:20.16 | nix | any shell for that matter. |
| 11:20.29 | TBBle | nix: dd from /proc/urandom and throw out the values outside the range? |
| 11:20.36 | jm_ | nix: ok then read about RANDOME variable |
| 11:21.02 | jm_ | RANDOM even |
| 11:21.02 | sparcmoz | nkuttler, perhaps you are right about the environment, i am checking that now with a new terminal... |
| 11:21.06 | StanTheMan | jm_: I'll leave it up there. Can't see as it would hurt to have my mail logs, which are 99.9% spam rejections, published for people glean "personal" information from lol |
| 11:21.07 | petemc | [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo \"You live\" |
| 11:21.30 | nix | sweet. thanks:) |
| 11:21.43 | Dunedan | TBBle: The /etc/pam.d/login is ok, I think there is only a problem with the two different file (environment and locale). I will try out if it works after a reboot. |
| 11:22.25 | StanTheMan | hay everyone, anybody using a broswser other than FireFox that you can test this page with? FX is barfing, IE works correctly. Before I file a bug report wil Mozilla, I want to make sure it's actually a bug. |
| 11:22.34 | TBBle | Dunedan: I had to refutz with my dpkg-reconfigure locales too, in the end... It had managed to generated a language spec with "s around it, and update-locales was rejecting it. |
| 11:22.37 | menko | I use opera |
| 11:22.47 | sep | StanTheMan, ok in mozilla-browser not ok in mozilla-firefoz |
| 11:22.52 | jm_ | StanTheMan: please defer with bug reports for now ;) |
| 11:22.55 | sparcmoz | nkuttler, it is fixed by making a new terminal - thanks (how did you know that!) |
| 11:23.01 | sep | StanTheMan, are you sure you dont need to </FONT> ? |
| 11:23.05 | StanTheMan | menko: check out http://www.hardwarefreak.com/maillog/maillog.html in opera plz |
| 11:23.24 | StanTheMan | sep: well, it works over 85% of the way throught the document |
| 11:23.27 | jm_ | StanTheMan: and you should also test by adding back </font> thing and then simply removing its first apperance |
| 11:23.39 | StanTheMan | jm_: ok |
| 11:23.53 | menko | StanTheMan: what's it supposed to show? |
| 11:24.11 | menko | StanTheMan: just looks like a log with red and blue liens |
| 11:24.16 | sep | StanTheMan, http://www.freecenter.com/db/click.cgi?category=checkit&title=W3C_HTML_Validator&url=http://validator.w3.org/ yes it's suposed to have ending </FONT> tags |
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| 11:24.47 | StanTheMan | menko: it's supposed to change the color ever time a ": connct from" is encoutnered |
| 11:25.15 | StanTheMan | menko: in Firefox, it does so until the log entry at Apr 10 23:24:31 |
| 11:25.26 | StanTheMan | menko: in IE, it works all the way through |
| 11:25.46 | StanTheMan | menko: can you check it in opera below Apr 10 23:24:31? |
| 11:26.01 | jm_ | StanTheMan: honestly, it's not a proper HTML page so it should be fixed |
| 11:26.07 | StanTheMan | sep: you say it works correctly in Mozilla suite 1.7? |
| 11:26.15 | toxic_ | Why doesn't this add something to the log: [ tail -f /var/log/auth.log -n 12 | grep ssh --line-buffered | cut -b 39- > text.log ] when I get the output printed on stdout if I remove the last "> text.log" |
| 11:26.17 | menko | StanTheMan: yup seems to be working after that time |
| 11:26.19 | sep | StanTheMan, 1.7.12 |
| 11:26.21 | StanTheMan | jm_: what do you mean? |
| 11:26.33 | jm_ | StanTheMan: run it via tidy and you'll see |
| 11:26.35 | sep | i guess fierfox have a lower limit for nested <font> 's |
| 11:26.36 | jm_ | through tidy |
| 11:26.40 | jm_ | indeed |
| 11:26.44 | StanTheMan | jm_: what is tidy? |
| 11:26.57 | jm_ | StanTheMan: apt-cache show tidy |
| 11:27.00 | sep | eventualy you will reach a limit even in other browsers unless you start to close the <font> tags with </font> |
| 11:27.07 | StanTheMan | ahh k |
| 11:27.36 | sep | StanTheMan, http://www.freecenter.com/db/click.cgi?category=checkit&title=W3C_HTML_Validator&url=http://validator.w3.org/ <-- tells you if your doing it right or not |
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| 11:27.51 | jm_ | or just http://validator.w3.org/ to avoid the spam :) |
| 11:28.04 | sep | http://validator.w3.org/ |
| 11:28.11 | sep | jm_, just noticed :/ |
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| 11:28.36 | StanTheMan | so I guess the issue is, how do we set the font to Courier, and not immediately kill it with the next </font> that the while loop is going to instantly insert? rigth? |
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| 11:29.46 | Corridor | hi |
| 11:29.47 | StanTheMan | jm_: I'm thinking if I manuall set the color to red, BEFORE we enter the whlie loop, then that first </font> that gets written to the flie will merely cancel the red formatting, which will get put right back in at the first ": connect from" |
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| 11:30.41 | StanTheMan | jm_: as it was before, what I'm sure was happening, is that the first </font> written in the while loop was kill the <font face=courier> |
| 11:31.01 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes, so to test it generate it and remove it with an editor and you'll fix the script later ... |
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| 11:32.10 | sep | StanTheMan, jsut set all the args in each <font> |
| 11:32.32 | Dunedan | ok, after a manual change of the /etc/default/locale everything works fine again now. |
| 11:32.47 | StanTheMan | sep: i don't know how to using the perl syntax |
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| 11:33.05 | jm_ | sep: it's not that simple, he should just do what I told him |
| 11:33.42 | jm_ | well alternatively, we could print <font color=>...</font> for each line, but I wanted to optimize it a bit |
| 11:34.04 | sep | StanTheMan, or even bette. make 2 styles in the begining all use <p id=red> for each part |
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| 11:35.45 | toxic_ | Why doesn't this add something to the log: [ tail -f /var/log/auth.log -n 12 | grep ssh --line-buffered | cut -b 39- > text.log ] when I get the output printed on stdout if I remove the last "> text.log" |
| 11:37.20 | StanTheMan | jm_: k, i inserted it back in, and now the colors are correct all the way through, but the font defaulted back to times |
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| 11:37.59 | jm_ | StanTheMan: right, so script needs a little fix to only print that if we have previously added font tag, should be trivial to add |
| 11:38.27 | StanTheMan | jm_: can you give me a perl line to just set the color one time, that I can insert at the top, so the first </font> doesn't kill the font face |
| 11:38.55 | StanTheMan | jm_: i think that's all we need. |
| 11:39.37 | StanTheMan | is to just set the color manually once, right after we declare the font face. that way the first </font> that gets written into the file will just cancel red, and not courier |
| 11:39.38 | jm_ | StanTheMan: well you could simply say printf(OUTF "<font face=\"courier new\" size=\"2\">\n<font color=\"black\">\n"); |
| 11:39.45 | jm_ | one more hack to make it even uglier! |
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| 11:40.59 | Shadowcat | what's the affective range of an 801.11a adapter? |
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| 11:41.39 | StanTheMan | jm_: tada! |
| 11:41.42 | LIFE | omg join #Dcoder |
| 11:41.44 | StanTheMan | that did it! |
| 11:41.46 | LIFE | j/k ;) |
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| 11:42.03 | StanTheMan | d@mn HTML frkn frakn grgrgr |
| 11:42.16 | StanTheMan | :bang head: |
| 11:42.32 | StanTheMan | ahh won't display bang head emoticon? what a jip |
| 11:42.56 | StanTheMan | jm_: thanks for all the help buddy |
| 11:43.15 | StanTheMan | jm_: you are officially now one of my heros ;) |
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| 11:44.00 | jm_ | StanTheMan: take it as a good indication that you should learn one of the scripting languages ;) |
| 11:44.11 | StanTheMan | jm_: now I just need to cron that puppy, and cron an ftp dump |
| 11:44.49 | StanTheMan | jm_: yes! and I just learned quite a bit thanks to you. Examples, and a little troubleshooting is a good learning tool-- like hands on training |
| 11:45.27 | StanTheMan | jm_: u think I should try doing the file x-fer with FTP? or load a trivial ftp server on the apache box? better way to go about this? |
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| 11:46.32 | xzu | i want to install a package (smoke ping) but i just want to do the probes from that box. I have not desire to install apache with it. What would be the nice way (or pointers to) to do that? |
| 11:46.39 | xzu | (the debian way) |
| 11:46.45 | jm_ | StanTheMan: well you can use FTP if it's secure, otherwise you can simply use scp (you can use lftpget to automate both, but password will be visible, so be careful) |
| 11:46.48 | StanTheMan | jm_: these two boxen are pretty much islands. no samba, no NFS. I just putty to each |
| 11:47.11 | StanTheMan | jm_: it's all on the inside, not public |
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| 11:47.27 | kokoko1 | where debian store ethernet config file ? |
| 11:47.28 | jm_ | xzu: it does not depend on apache |
| 11:47.28 | StanTheMan | jm_: all behind a NATing firewall, reserved IP space |
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| 11:47.54 | jm_ | StanTheMan: up to you really, it's pretty much the same for both, just protocol is different |
| 11:48.00 | xzu | jm_: ok, so how do i stop aptitude from automatically installing it? |
| 11:48.38 | StanTheMan | jm_: well, I've already got the basic debian FTP server running on the apache box |
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| 11:49.01 | kokoko1 | anyone pls |
| 11:49.02 | fluxdude | I've got a strange thing trying to compile a new 2.6.16 kernel where I can't deselect SCSI device support, I can only have it as a module or compiled in. How do I get rid of this? |
| 11:49.15 | StanTheMan | jm_: i'm just not sure how I'd do the login and password, and dir change, via a script fired by a cron job... |
| 11:49.18 | jm_ | xzu: 1. find out hwy apache is getting installed automatically, 2. tell aptitude to disable this feature (man aptitude, it will be obvious once you figure out 1.) |
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| 11:49.35 | jm_ | StanTheMan: that's why I said use lftpget |
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| 11:49.47 | StanTheMan | jm_: lemee man that real quick |
| 11:49.48 | xzu | jm_: cheers |
| 11:49.59 | jm_ | StanTheMan: other than that though, ftp is trivial to script, either using .netrc or by piping it commands via stdin |
| 11:50.03 | kokoko1 | where debian store ethernet config file ? |
| 11:50.09 | jm_ | xzu: apt-cache show smokeping for 1. |
| 11:50.16 | jm_ | kokoko1: man interfaces |
| 11:50.57 | xzu | jm_: ah... "recommends" is the keyword I guess :) |
| 11:51.05 | jm_ | xzu: indeed |
| 11:51.22 | jm_ | xzu: I have it disabled in ~/.aptitude/config |
| 11:51.35 | tarzeau | anyone doing 3d modelling? |
| 11:51.47 | StanTheMan | jm_: lftpget is a client right? I need the cron job to PUT, not GET |
| 11:52.13 | StanTheMan | jm_: i don't know if I have an FTP server running on the postfix box |
| 11:52.40 | StanTheMan | jm_: i can install one. But, how does lftpget avoid user login and password? |
| 11:52.41 | jm_ | StanTheMan: well you said you can get it from that box as well, so that's why I suggested it (lftpget supports fish/sftp too) |
| 11:52.54 | inazad | Can I have some help about gDesklets ? |
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| 11:52.59 | jm_ | StanTheMan: lftpget ftp://user:pass@foo/blabla/crap |
| 11:53.11 | StanTheMan | ahh |
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| 11:54.09 | jm_ | add missing : |
| 11:54.10 | StanTheMan | jm_: so I'd set the local directory in the script before calling lftpget, so the file gets dumped into /var/www/maillog/ |
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| 11:54.51 | jm_ | StanTheMan: for example |
| 11:55.20 | StanTheMan | cd /var/www/maillog/ |
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| 11:56.24 | StanTheMan | lftpget ftp://stan:pwd@/dir/on/greer |
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| 11:57.04 | StanTheMan | wait that's not right.. |
| 11:57.10 | StanTheMan | ill figure it out |
| 11:57.27 | jm_ | you need /path/to/file |
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| 11:57.35 | metellius | i am getting tired of gentoo, and i am wondering what I'm giving up if I convert to debian. can I always have the newest ati-driver installed with debian? |
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| 11:58.07 | jm_ | metellius: /msg dpkg flavio |
| 11:58.10 | sep | metellius, yuo can still compile from source thing you want bleeding edge. but with debian you dont have to compile _everything_ from source |
| 11:58.26 | StanTheMan | jm_: lftpget ftp://stan:pwd@greer.hardwarefreak.com/usr/stan/maillog.hmtl ?? |
| 11:58.32 | tarzeau | metellius: sure |
| 11:58.37 | tarzeau | metellius: www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
| 11:58.46 | tarzeau | jm_: the flavio stuff is outdated i've been told in #ati |
| 11:58.52 | tarzeau | jm_: besides it didn't work, when i tried |
| 11:59.07 | jm_ | tarzeau: no skills ;) |
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| 11:59.38 | jm_ | StanTheMan: well if the path is correct |
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| 12:01.04 | metellius | will the default debian kernel have power-saving easily available? does ubuntu have this? (i am thinking about things like cpu-frequency scaling etc) |
| 12:01.09 | StanTheMan | jm_: that's where I plan on having the cron script cp the log to, and then run the html script on it. |
| 12:01.25 | Althaser | how can I remove one link ? please |
| 12:01.43 | petemc | Althaser: link? symlink? rm |
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| 12:02.50 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no need to cp it, you can have the script write to it directly |
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| 12:02.59 | Althaser | petemc yeah I think that but I can't erase one file under /usr/bin/foobar ;( |
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| 12:03.16 | jm_ | metellius: Debian kernels have most of teh features enabled, usually as modules so you can load them as you need it |
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| 12:03.28 | petemc | Althaser: why not? as root? |
| 12:03.39 | StanTheMan | jm_: you me READ from it don't you? I want to read the log and generate the HTML, not the other way around hehe |
| 12:04.07 | Althaser | petemc because then I'll want to run that bin file |
| 12:04.08 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes, but you can have the script write to /usr/stan/maillog.hmtl, no need to cp it there |
| 12:04.25 | petemc | Althaser: i have absolutely no idea what you're talking about |
| 12:05.25 | StanTheMan | jm_: my $logfile = "/var/log/mail.log"; |
| 12:05.46 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no, my $tgtfile :) |
| 12:06.01 | Althaser | petemc I would like to change the symlink of /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager that is /usr/bin/xfce4-session and I want to change for another one now can I do that ? please |
| 12:06.17 | jm_ | Althaser: with update-alternatives |
| 12:06.17 | merlincorey | Althaser: man alternatives |
| 12:06.18 | petemc | Althaser: update-alternative --config x-session-manager |
| 12:06.23 | StanTheMan | jm_: When I mentioned cp, i was talking about copying /var/log/mail.log into my homedir, so i could run the script on it in that dir |
| 12:06.26 | merlincorey | err |
| 12:06.30 | jm_ | StanTheMan: ohh ok |
| 12:06.31 | merlincorey | Althaser: man update-alternative |
| 12:06.39 | merlincorey | wtf |
| 12:06.44 | merlincorey | I know there is a manual entry for it somewhere |
| 12:06.51 | merlincorey | ah petemc confused us all |
| 12:06.52 | Althaser | jm_ merlincorey petemc thanks a lot guys -:) |
| 12:06.53 | lilalinux | When doing "debootstrap --second-stage" I get this error: "cat: /usr/lib/debootstrap/suite: No such file or directory" |
| 12:06.55 | StanTheMan | jm_: so I do want this then correct: my $logfile = "/var/log/mail.log"; |
| 12:06.58 | merlincorey | Althaser: man update-alternatives |
| 12:07.02 | metellius | what are the main differences between ubuntu and debian? |
| 12:07.10 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no you want to correct this then |
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| 12:07.12 | Althaser | merlincorey right |
| 12:07.13 | merlincorey | Althaser: debian uses this "alternatives" system and that page will tell you all about how to use it |
| 12:07.36 | StanTheMan | jm_: so i don't have to copy the log file into my home dir? I can just read from it at its default location, within the script? |
| 12:07.45 | Althaser | merlincorey okay ;) |
| 12:07.47 | Althaser | thanks |
| 12:07.51 | merlincorey | metellius: I've never ran an ubuntu system so I cannot be completely sure |
| 12:08.00 | jm_ | StanTheMan: you can if permissions allow it |
| 12:08.23 | metellius | ok. i'm convinced. debian it is |
| 12:08.24 | merlincorey | metellius: but I am under the impression that there are different sets of packages that can be downloaded and ubuntu uses different programs for the defaults and different configs |
| 12:08.32 | StanTheMan | jm_: $tgtfile is what we're writing to. So this is /usr/stan/maillog.html |
| 12:08.39 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes |
| 12:08.45 | StanTheMan | $logfile is the /var/log/mail.log |
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| 12:09.01 | jm_ | StanTheMan: logfile is source, tgtfile is target |
| 12:09.12 | bulio | for a wireless USB adapter to run in debian |
| 12:09.16 | bulio | what do I pick here? |
| 12:09.17 | bulio | http://smc.com/index.cfm?event=downloads.doSearchCriteria&localeCode=EN_CAN&knowsPartNumber=false&productCategory=5&userPartNumber=&modelNumber=1467&partNumber=3182&downloadType=1&os=12 |
| 12:09.34 | merlincorey | bulio: you probably want something that says "prism" |
| 12:09.38 | metellius | can I have some packages installed from a more unstable repository? for example if I want the newest version of vim, but I want all other stuff to go through the long package acceptance process... |
| 12:09.43 | StanTheMan | jm_: well, you have to be root to even view the /var/log/mail/log file, so i may as well just have the script read it directly from there, and have the script run as su from within the cron job, correct? |
| 12:09.57 | jm_ | StanTheMan: that's all up to you really |
| 12:10.08 | bulio | merlincorey: its a usb adapter btw |
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| 12:10.12 | bulio | I don't see prism |
| 12:10.38 | merlincorey | metellius: in Debian you can and should if you are not running stable. For most desktop users you do not need to run stable and thus have access to newer software if you MUST have it. I do not recommend debian-based distrobutions because many of them try to BE stable but allow packages from anywhere and causes all sorts of problems |
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| 12:10.53 | StanTheMan | jm_: well, if I have to be root just to access the file, it wouldn't make any sense to take the extra step of copying it into my homedir, and then running the html convert script under a user acct? would it? |
| 12:11.11 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: man su, see su -c |
| 12:11.39 | StanTheMan | merlincorey: thx |
| 12:11.42 | merlincorey | bulio: my USB wireless card was associated with prism something or other that's about all I know |
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| 12:12.31 | StanTheMan | merlincorey: I was using "root" figuratively, as an access privelage, not a logged in user |
| 12:12.38 | susan^ | susu |
| 12:12.40 | susan^ | sapai |
| 12:12.45 | metellius | merlincorey: you do not recommend debian-based systems at all? |
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| 12:12.53 | merlincorey | bulio: you may need to be in 2.6 kernel |
| 12:12.53 | jm_ | StanTheMan: it's up to you really, but this script is pretty harmless and you have good control over what it does so no big problems either way |
| 12:12.56 | merlincorey | !debian-based |
| 12:12.56 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 12:13.24 | bulio | merlincorey: sarge doesn't have 2.6? |
| 12:13.28 | merlincorey | metellius: things based on Debian are less than Debian. Ubuntu is the only one worth anything, IMO |
| 12:13.40 | merlincorey | metellius: and I still prefer Debian because I like the "debian way" |
| 12:13.44 | mixte1 | bulio: yes, but it runs 2.4 as default |
| 12:14.07 | bulio | how can I upgrade or what not? |
| 12:14.14 | metellius | merlincorey: ah, I see. thanks for clearing that up. |
| 12:14.21 | merlincorey | bulio: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 12:14.22 | jm_ | metellius: no you can't, because you'll end up upgrading the base to unstable in no time, but you can often find newer packages on backports |
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| 12:14.27 | merlincorey | bulio: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 12:14.44 | liable | !simple sid backport |
| 12:14.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 12:14.50 | merlincorey | metellius: jm_ is talking about on stable boxen, but you likely won't be in stable |
| 12:15.20 | merlincorey | metellius: though I do recommend you run stable or at worst testing until you figure out what you are doing and I REALLY mean that because if not you're going to screw yourself and blame it on Debian and no one is going to care because it was your fault |
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| 12:15.46 | bulio | merlincorey: nothing came up |
| 12:16.01 | Shorty` | metellius; I agree with merlincorey |
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| 12:16.53 | merlincorey | bulio: are you sure you're on sarge? |
| 12:17.14 | metellius | merlincorey: in most cases I do not care about the newest versions, but I only want the possibility to have a few packages installed from another repository. how does this work with the whole "box being either stable or unstable" system? Will I have to change the whole repository list to unstable to install those few packages? |
| 12:17.22 | dudi | hi i try cat /data/my.list | grep -wi creed, but that found nothing even if i got some creed music so i try grep -wi *creed* without sucess so i look in the file and the creed word has no space with the rest of the file name (like the most of mp3 file) so i try egrep -wi *creed* without success too, any idea |
| 12:17.23 | bulio | merlincorey: how can I tell? |
| 12:17.37 | merlincorey | metellius: this is what backports are for and backports are acceptable in a stable system |
| 12:17.47 | merlincorey | !backports |
| 12:17.47 | dpkg | i heard backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 12:17.49 | jm_ | dudi: lose the '('-s |
| 12:17.55 | jm_ | dudi: * even |
| 12:18.05 | dudi | jm_, ? |
| 12:18.09 | jm_ | dudi: ! |
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| 12:18.11 | toxic_ | How come this works: " tail -f logfile >> text.log " But this doesn't: " tail -f logfile | grep ssh >> text.log" (removing >>text.log in example 2 prints text to stdout just like example 1) |
| 12:18.33 | dudi | its due to the ( |
| 12:18.34 | metellius | merlincorey: I see, thanks for clearing that up. downloading debian now :) |
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| 12:18.51 | jm_ | I should have said loose |
| 12:19.08 | dudi | jm_, i dont understand |
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| 12:19.14 | merlincorey | metellius: congratulations and don't be afraid to chirp for help - it can be daunting for ANYONE to move to a new OS |
| 12:19.18 | jm_ | dudi: do you know what * means for shell? |
| 12:19.31 | bulio | how can I tell my debian version? |
| 12:19.35 | merlincorey | metellius: however, I am confident if you stick with it and get to learn the system you will truly like it and never want to run anything else |
| 12:19.45 | jm_ | !tell bulio -about debian version |
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| 12:20.32 | dudi | yes i know, that means any character whatever the number of character before too |
| 12:20.34 | metellius | i think i'll manage, i have already been using ubuntu, gentoo and debian on another laptop, this is just the first time i convert to debian as my main distro :) |
| 12:20.41 | dudi | its why i want to use it |
| 12:20.53 | dudi | because grep only sort word that are separated by space |
| 12:21.03 | jm_ | yes, but do you know what arguments grep gets if there are files named *creed* in your current dir? |
| 12:21.13 | metellius | quick question, how come the iso-cd folder has 14 cd's, and the iso-dvd folder has only one 375 mb-file and a 100mb one? |
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| 12:21.24 | citral | hum, someone else noticed "glibc detected *** double free or corruption" in many packages in etch? |
| 12:21.29 | dudi | no, and i just want to know how to get what i want |
| 12:21.46 | jm_ | remove -w if you have spaces in there, that's self-explanatory |
| 12:21.50 | citral | i.e irssi, galculator, evolution |
| 12:21.57 | EdLin | metellius: you're reading the sizes wrong - DVDs are bigger than CD media |
| 12:21.59 | StanTheMan | jm_: I was thinking. Depending on the "timing" of transactions on the MTA, there can be mulitple connects in progress at the same time, before any of them disconnect. And you can see this in the current HTML log file. How difficult would it be to modify the script to color by transaction number insteaf of a static string like ": connect"? |
| 12:22.20 | dudi | jm_, i admit my error thanks a lot |
| 12:22.22 | dudi | ;) |
| 12:22.23 | bulio | how do I untar a .zip? |
| 12:22.30 | EdLin | metellius: incidentally, unless the machine is not connected to the network, you only need the first CD or netinst |
| 12:22.36 | merlincorey | metellius: I recommend you bookmark http://www.backports.org , http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/ , and http://www.debian-administration.org/ . You also may want http://bugs.debian.org , http://packages.debian.org , and http://lists.debian.org |
| 12:22.42 | quitte | bulio: try unzipping it instead |
| 12:23.07 | jMCg | lol |
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| 12:23.15 | jm_ | StanTheMan: in that case you'd have to implement a lot more logic in the script, to remember colour for given ID and then restore it (if possible) |
| 12:23.18 | StanTheMan | jm_: i.e. so each unique transaction has alternating colors, even if parts of the transaction are above and below another transaction? |
| 12:23.44 | StanTheMan | jm_: doable but very difficult, or more likely impossible? |
| 12:23.58 | toxic_ | Is there another utility besides "cut" that can print parts of a string ? |
| 12:23.58 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: pay me and I'll code anything you want |
| 12:24.15 | StanTheMan | HAHA! I love seeing capitalism at work |
| 12:24.22 | jm_ | toxic_: plenty of them |
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| 12:24.37 | jm_ | StanTheMan: it depends on how picky you are |
| 12:24.57 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: well, it's 5:30 AM and I'm coding right now for someone else. I'd much rather be coding my own stuff, but capitalism keeps me having to pay for stupid shit like rent and important shit like my internet connection |
| 12:26.00 | jm_ | StanTheMan: but perhaps that's easily done by looking at the PID, they all have a different PID, don't they? |
| 12:26.05 | StanTheMan | jm_: to be completely honest, it looks pretty damn good right now. My main goal was just to get some "separation" to make it easier to read, and see where each transaction starts. So, the way we have it now, it tremendously better than one color text in a telnet session |
| 12:26.08 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: ASCII colors are pretty easy to implement and if all you want to do is alternate on rows of data it's very doable |
| 12:26.35 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: s/ASCII/ANSI/ |
| 12:26.39 | StanTheMan | jm_: yes, each of the mail transactions has a unique ID, incremented by 1 for each new transaction |
| 12:26.54 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no, not ID, PID as in process ID ;) |
| 12:27.11 | StanTheMan | merlincorey: look at what we have so far: http://www.hardwarefreak.com/maillog/maillog.html |
| 12:28.18 | StanTheMan | jm_: ohhhh, each of those 31xxx numbers are SMTPD process IDs? didn't realize that.. |
| 12:28.34 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yup, in that case it would be pretty simple |
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| 12:28.49 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: probably be just as easy to set up a web script in $LANG to parse the data and have more sophistication in data display |
| 12:29.05 | StanTheMan | jm_: it really doesn't matter what that is, because at the point we read it, it's just text |
| 12:29.28 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: but in a sophisticated data display, there is a row heading that says "Process Id" :D |
| 12:29.34 | jm_ | StanTheMan: it does matter from processing point of view - PID is available in every line, transaction ID isn't |
| 12:29.36 | StanTheMan | jm_: but going that route would be more of a "realtime" endeavor would it not? |
| 12:30.19 | jm_ | StanTheMan: naah |
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| 12:30.32 | StanTheMan | jm_: i guess i don't quite follow ya |
| 12:30.51 | StanTheMan | conceptually |
| 12:30.53 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: use less buzzwords |
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| 12:32.24 | jm_ | StanTheMan: something like this - when we detect new connection (connect from), we also remember current colour we use for this PID, then for each line that has this PID, use the stored value for colour, that would also get rid of the issue with font face |
| 12:32.25 | StanTheMan | jm_: so how would we go about parsing out the process IDs to be different colors, vs using the ": connect" |
| 12:32.47 | StanTheMan | jm_: ahh go ya |
| 12:32.51 | StanTheMan | got |
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| 12:33.47 | StanTheMan | jm_: but in doing this, we're still just reading the log file, right? /var/log/mail.log? not monkeying with currently running process IDs? |
| 12:33.59 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yes, of course |
| 12:34.09 | merlincorey | Hardware Freaks |
| 12:34.12 | merlincorey | :p |
| 12:35.03 | StanTheMan | merlincorey: so now you see why I'm script handicapped? :P |
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| 12:37.27 | StanTheMan | I can build a quad opteron with a 12 drive scsi backplane and two channels of U320 RAID, all the hardware, and have the thing up and running in less time that I could compose a script to write "hardwarefreak" to the console |
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| 12:38.07 | StanTheMan | :) |
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| 12:38.45 | jm_ | too bad I only buy basic gamer systems otherwise I'd bug you about it ;) |
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| 12:39.45 | StanTheMan | jm_: I do those too ;) |
| 12:39.45 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: that's impressive! |
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| 12:40.18 | fireba11 | merlincorey: rather expensive :-D |
| 12:40.20 | jm_ | StanTheMan: I have pretty much made up my mind, the only point I need to investigate is whether to use 2x512MB or 1x1GB RAM modules (nforce4 ultra) |
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| 12:40.37 | fireba11 | jm_ you want to upgrade ? |
| 12:40.37 | merlincorey | StanTheMan: I can write a user authentication subsystem for a web site in less time than it takes me to take apart the stupid Dell PuzzleBox my girlfriend has and do anything useful |
| 12:40.51 | liable | StanTheMan: i suggest you go to tldp.org and study bash scripting :) |
| 12:40.53 | jm_ | fireba11: naah, I will buy a new box next month (or early June) |
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| 12:41.20 | Silent_al | hello,whats the command to transfer an entire partition to another? |
| 12:41.29 | merlincorey | Silent_al: transfer_part |
| 12:41.30 | Silent_al | can i do it with "cp" |
| 12:41.31 | jm_ | Silent_al: hard disk upgrade mini howto |
| 12:41.32 | Silent_al | ? |
| 12:41.33 | merlincorey | Silent_al: (I'm kidding) |
| 12:41.34 | jm_ | yes |
| 12:41.43 | Silent_al | merlincorey :P |
| 12:41.48 | StanTheMan | for desk(side) use I recommend this chassis: http://www.chenbro.com.tw/usa/product/product_preview.php?pid=74 couple hundred buck without PSU, but plenty of space for drives, and excellent cooling |
| 12:41.49 | dorel_ | i've connected a usb digi camera and i see in /var/log/syslog that it discovered it (usb 1-1: new full speed usb device using uhci_hdc and address 4). how do i mount the usb drive to access the pictures? |
| 12:41.50 | liable | Silent_al: /msg dpkg hard drive upgrade |
| 12:41.53 | merlincorey | Silent_al: really, though, cp is slow and bad for it |
| 12:41.55 | fireba11 | jm_ oderd my new hardware yesterday .. semprono 3400+ 754, asus mainboard (the only one i found that had all features .. i don't really like asus) a 2nd GB-ram and a X1800XT with 512 MB :-) |
| 12:42.26 | merlincorey | dorel_: You need to mount it |
| 12:42.30 | jm_ | fireba11: I'll go with Athlon 3500, 1GB RAM, 320GB disk, Geforce 7600GT |
| 12:42.30 | Silent_al | jm_ liable merlincorey , thank u |
| 12:42.32 | merlincorey | dorel_: it's basically a hard drive |
| 12:42.33 | liable | dorel_: id it hasnt assigned a /dev address to it, you may need gphoto2 |
| 12:42.55 | dorel_ | yeah i know i need to mount. im just wondering where is it's device point? |
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| 12:43.14 | Coweater | check dmesg |
| 12:43.14 | merlincorey | dorel_: I have had similar problems but it is far too late for me to remember right now :( sorry |
| 12:43.19 | liable | dorel_: some cameras dont show up as mass storage devices |
| 12:43.20 | StanTheMan | jm_: DEFINITELY 2x512 DIMMS. If you use a single DIMM, you get HALF the memory bandwidth |
| 12:43.24 | fireba11 | jm_ depending on what you do you might want to have 2 GB ram .. we got 2 GB in every developer PC around here, pretty neat :-) |
| 12:43.49 | jm_ | StanTheMan: yeah I remember that being the issue, but just needed to read about the details |
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| 12:44.28 | jm_ | fireba11: that'll be my home machine for Linux and playing games, 1GB should do for now and I might buy more later |
| 12:44.32 | merlincorey | merlincorey@bluemoon:~/development/merlinsbox/ghostwheel/ircbot$ cat /proc/meminfo |
| 12:44.37 | merlincorey | MemTotal: 94620 kB |
| 12:44.37 | merlincorey | I'm IRCing on this :) |
| 12:44.41 | merlincorey | with six screens |
| 12:44.43 | merlincorey | >:D |
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| 12:44.46 | dorel_ | uhmm |
| 12:44.51 | dorel_ | isnt there a default /dev/usb1 or something like that? |
| 12:44.54 | stoned | if I get 512 more I can run morrowind |
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| 12:45.02 | jm_ | dorel_: no |
| 12:45.03 | dorel_ | on dmesg i only see that message about it finding out a new fullspeed usb device |
| 12:45.16 | fireba11 | jm_ got an athlon 2200+ with 1 GB and a radeon 9500 pro right now .. and got oblivion on friday .. thus i decided it was time to upgrade the over 3 year old video card .. |
| 12:45.21 | merlincorey | man I must have netburped |
| 12:45.27 | StanTheMan | for the total $$ spent, 754 is not worth the effort. socket 939 is the way to go, with a low end A64, like a 3000+, due to the dual channel RAM interface to the 939 socket |
| 12:45.28 | merlincorey | I only pasted two lines :( |
| 12:45.36 | unlearn | hello what is the command to make a boot disk in debian? |
| 12:45.41 | liable | merlincorey: 5 on this side. |
| 12:45.57 | merlincorey | merlincorey@bluemoon:~/development/merlinsbox/ghostwheel/ircbot$ cat /proc/meminfo |
| 12:45.58 | jm_ | fireba11: heh mine is XP1700 with 512MB and Ti4200 :) |
| 12:46.00 | merlincorey | MemTotal: 94620 kB |
| 12:46.10 | merlincorey | ^ that was all that is in my clip board |
| 12:46.15 | merlincorey | my typing must have caused a burp |
| 12:46.20 | jm_ | unlearn: man mkboot |
| 12:46.25 | unlearn | k |
| 12:46.45 | dorel_ | i installed gphoto2, is that suppose to help me see my photos/use it as a video conf camera? |
| 12:47.11 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: i calculated that ... that would have cost almost 100 more and i don't really need that much CPU speed |
| 12:47.19 | liable | dorel_: yes, man gphoto2. theres a scan option |
| 12:48.05 | liable | dorel_: erm, no video conference shits though, but you should be able to download your photos |
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| 12:48.41 | StanTheMan | fireball: what did you give for the 754 mobo, and the sempron? |
| 12:48.58 | StanTheMan | fireball: and is it an AGP mobo? |
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| 12:49.02 | dorel_ | uhmm ok |
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| 12:49.16 | dorel_ | no video conf stuff at all? or with a supported camera only? |
| 12:49.30 | liable | nfc |
| 12:49.32 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: nah .. that's the main reason for the new CPU and mobo, to get PCI-E |
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| 12:50.07 | StanTheMan | oh, btw, my system specs on on ocforums.com. Search for posts by HardwareFreak |
| 12:50.10 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: sempron and mobo were <200 together |
| 12:50.45 | jMCg | w00t |
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| 12:53.15 | StanTheMan | fireball: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135177 |
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| 12:54.39 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: *ikes* elitegroup ^^ |
| 12:54.58 | StanTheMan | fireball: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537 |
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| 12:55.24 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: would have wanted a board with additional ide-controller .. but there is no 754 or 939 board with that .. :-( |
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| 12:55.35 | miles | afternoon |
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| 12:55.42 | StanTheMan | fireball: $194 |
| 12:56.15 | miles | Anyone know if its possible to get aptitude or similar to install from a local deb file, and handle all the deps for me? |
| 12:56.33 | azeem | miles: no |
| 12:56.37 | jm_ | miles: you mean you have dependencies downloaded too? |
| 12:56.54 | azeem | miles: there's gdebi or something though from one of the APT maintainers which he wrote for Ubuntu |
| 12:57.08 | azeem | miles: you could google for that (but it is GNOME based AFAIK) |
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| 12:57.16 | miles | jm_: yes exactly |
| 12:57.28 | jm_ | miles: dpkg will handle that |
| 12:57.34 | StanTheMan | jm_: thanks again for that script man. That is pretty sweet. And I learned a little perl in the process. |
| 12:57.40 | azeem | miles: one hackish solution here is to dpkg -i the .deb and then run apt-get -f install |
| 12:57.44 | jm_ | StanTheMan: no worries |
| 12:57.52 | azeem | if you downloaded the deps to /var/cache/apt/archives, that is |
| 12:58.05 | miles | I have the .deb, but when I install it, its dep hell |
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| 12:58.27 | miles | so after, if I run apt-get -f install, that should fix the broken deps? |
| 12:58.34 | azeem | miles: hopefully |
| 12:58.35 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: those things are a bit more expensive where i live |
| 12:58.39 | azeem | it's totally unsupported of course |
| 12:58.48 | Silent_al | miles: dpkg -i /location_of_the_deb _file |
| 12:59.02 | azeem | miles: but it could be worth a try, just check whether it wants rather remove loads of other packages instead though |
| 12:59.12 | miles | I try now |
| 12:59.45 | merlincorey | good luck |
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| 13:00.17 | hackman127 | everyone, I am having some serious problems with OpenVPN. I migrated from a Gentoo box to a Debian box, using all the same configs and keys. The Debian box will start OpenVPN, and begin dishing out IPs, but when I get the PUSH-REPLY, I get a (status=1), and the boxes cannot talk to each other. There is no complex routing, the boxes are on the same network. Any ideas? |
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| 13:00.31 | miles | nope :-(( |
| 13:00.39 | miles | removed the kwlan app |
| 13:00.43 | dorel_ | liable: nice. i installed gtkam and it detected the camera and i see the pictures... |
| 13:00.53 | k31th | Afternoon guys |
| 13:00.53 | StanTheMan | fireball: Yeah, I've noticed PC parts seem to cost more in Germany, and just as bad in Britain. |
| 13:01.01 | liable | dorel_: cool. |
| 13:01.01 | tosh | hackman127 ip forwarding enabled? no fw rules? no layer 7 firewall that tries to be smart? |
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| 13:01.05 | k31th | Anyone recommend a server chassis with alot of HD space |
| 13:01.16 | dorel_ | id still be interested to know where is it living in /dev |
| 13:01.29 | StanTheMan | fireball: BTW, I must say you speak (type) English very well for a 2nd language. Or are you a transplant to Germany? |
| 13:01.33 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: http://www.asus.de/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=454&l1=3&l2=14&l3=0 |
| 13:01.40 | dorel_ | oh i found it with lsof :) |
| 13:01.46 | dorel_ | seems like /dev/bus/usb/001/006 |
| 13:01.51 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: nah .. am native german .. am just using english every day |
| 13:01.56 | miles | thanks anyway... hasta luego |
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| 13:02.04 | hackman127 | tosh, I'm using the same firewall chains that I did on the Gentoo box, and the Gentoo box worked. |
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| 13:03.06 | errr | when making a deb for pyrhon modules is it possible to do like rpms or ebuilds where you inherit the distutils functionality of python to preform the install using the python modules setup.py? |
| 13:03.18 | errr | s,pyrhon,python, |
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| 13:03.34 | sep | k31th we use a few of these http://www.aicipc.com/productDetail_galley.asp?catID=6&id=80 |
| 13:03.51 | sep | k31th : and you could have the decensy of not quitting before i repkly !E&"##"!" |
| 13:04.01 | jm_ | hehe |
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| 13:04.07 | sep | :] |
| 13:04.22 | merlincorey | then I don't know if they leave I just assume they are rude and don't thank me |
| 13:04.23 | merlincorey | :D |
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| 13:04.55 | sep | merlincorey, i notice when my nickcompleatino stops working |
| 13:05.04 | sep | merlincorey, but i had already started on the line with the url |
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| 13:05.22 | fireba11 | sep: hehe |
| 13:05.51 | datn | exit |
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| 13:07.46 | szazxszep | cahoot: hi. i solved my printing problem, which i asked yesterday. for Z600 series, there is an rpm on the lexmark's homepage, which is compatible to the X1100 series printers :) thank for help once more |
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| 13:07.58 | StanTheMan | fireball: you say you wanted more IDE connectors? |
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| 13:09.31 | jm_ | yeah most have just one nowaddays, don't they? the rest is SATA |
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| 13:11.30 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: yes .. currently i got 2 optical drives and 5 HDs .. only one of the SATA :-D |
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| 13:12.15 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: but i will throw out two older, smaller HDs ... not that much of a problem |
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| 13:14.21 | StanTheMan | the debian/postfix box that jm_ and I have been working the maillog script for, has an Abit BP6 dual celeron board in it (the only dual socket 370 board ever made). It has 4, PIDE connectors, up to 8 IDE devices. Intel PIIX with two IDE ports, and a Highoint HT66 with two ports. :P |
| 13:14.58 | llvllatrix | Hi, I'm trying to get wine working with half life 2 but it doesn't seem to be able to find DISPLAY1. I'm sure this has to do with the DISPLAY environment variable but I cant seem to find any documentation on that particular variable. Does anyone know how to set it? |
| 13:15.51 | StanTheMan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.00 | jmd_ | Does anyone know how to use dict/dictd ?? |
| 13:16.10 | abrotman | jmd_: that's a bit vague |
| 13:16.18 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: my current board got the regular 2 IDE channels, plus 2 SATA ports plus HT7xx with another 2 IDE channels ... so up to 10 drives .. teh new one will have 2 IDE channes and two sata-fakeraids with 4 ports each ... one of the even advertising raid 5 .. will see if that is fake too ;-) |
| 13:16.21 | abrotman | llvllatrix: are you running stuff as root? |
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| 13:16.32 | llvllatrix | abortman: no |
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| 13:16.50 | jmd_ | abrotman: Does anyone know how to get dict/dictd to do anything sensible? |
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| 13:16.56 | abrotman | llvllatrix: might have more luck in #winehq |
| 13:17.02 | StanTheMan | fireaball: all the mobo SATA/PATA RAID is fakeraid |
| 13:17.24 | abrotman | jmd_: i didn't mean ask me specifically .. |
| 13:17.28 | abrotman | StanTheMan: not quite true |
| 13:17.40 | abrotman | jmd_: do you get errors? .. anything in the logs? |
| 13:17.40 | jm_ | jmd_: install it, install dict packages, tell dict to contact local server |
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| 13:18.04 | mahatma | hello; I don't understand why fdisk -l yields no info. |
| 13:18.09 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: would be the first i spoted with real raid ... i don't really care .. i just want the amount of ports |
| 13:18.11 | abrotman | are you root? |
| 13:18.14 | StanTheMan | fireball: there are no motherboards with an XOR asic, RAID firmware, and cache memory on the market |
| 13:18.14 | abrotman | mahatma: ^^ |
| 13:18.24 | mahatma | fdisk /dev/hda gives me access to the disk, though |
| 13:18.32 | abrotman | StanTheMan: none? 100% none? |
| 13:18.37 | mahatma | yes, I'm superuser |
| 13:18.46 | jmd_ | jm_: Yes I've installed a dictionary. But whenever I try to look anything up, it claims no matches. Even REALLY SIMPLE and COMMON words. |
| 13:18.47 | abrotman | mahatma: try using the device |
| 13:19.00 | mahatma | yeah, hda is my / |
| 13:19.03 | abrotman | StanTheMan: i'm pretty sure i've seen a few higher end server models with onboard true SATA/PATA RAID |
| 13:19.07 | jm_ | jmd_: which dictionary specifically? |
| 13:19.10 | mahatma | well, a partition on it, anyway |
| 13:19.11 | abrotman | mahatma: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 13:19.33 | jmd_ | jm_: fd-deu-eng German-English Freedict dictionary |
| 13:19.43 | mahatma | abrotman: yup, that works, but fdisk -l should print out every hd and its partitions |
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| 13:19.52 | mahatma | abrotman: atleast, that's what it used to do |
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| 13:20.03 | ah | exit |
| 13:20.06 | abrotman | mahatma: are you on sarge? |
| 13:20.15 | mahatma | abrotman: yes |
| 13:20.15 | StanTheMan | abrotman: point me to a link. There are boards that will accept ZCR cards, but none that I know of that acutally have an LSI or Intel RAID asic integrated on the motherboard. |
| 13:20.26 | abrotman | mahatma: and which one "used" to do it? .. another distro ? |
| 13:20.32 | fireba11 | StanTheMan what's truly sad is the low amount of PCI-E cards available ... |
| 13:20.38 | jm_ | jmd_: hmm that's not available in Sarge, I have used dict-gcide and it worked pretty well |
| 13:20.39 | abrotman | StanTheMan: do you really want me to go read all the damn sites? :) |
| 13:20.41 | mahatma | abrotman: ;), yes |
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| 13:20.46 | abrotman | StanTheMan: i just thought i'd seen them |
| 13:20.54 | abrotman | mahatma: i believe the one in sarge doesn't do it .. but etch/sid do |
| 13:20.57 | mahatma | abrotman: when I compiled it myself on another system |
| 13:21.04 | abrotman | mahatma:so you'lll need to specify a device |
| 13:21.09 | jmd_ | jm_: It sure is in Sarge. |
| 13:21.12 | mahatma | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 13:21.35 | jm_ | jmd_: not with that package name |
| 13:21.36 | StanTheMan | abrotman: no... thought you may have remembered the possible ONE, and ONLY ONE, board you found with it, hehe, as I guarantee you if you found one, you found ONLY one. |
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| 13:21.52 | abrotman | StanTheMan: let me look quickly .. |
| 13:21.53 | mahatma | is it possible to get ntfs support in sarge? |
| 13:21.57 | StanTheMan | fireball: what you looking for? PCI-E RAID card? |
| 13:22.03 | jmd_ | jm_ the package name is dict-freedict-deu-eng |
| 13:22.05 | abrotman | mahatma: which kind? |
| 13:22.14 | jm_ | jmd_: right |
| 13:22.21 | mahatma | well, I need to read a ntfs partition to get the data off it |
| 13:22.29 | abrotman | !ntfs-ro |
| 13:22.32 | abrotman | !ntfsro |
| 13:22.32 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 13:23.02 | mahatma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:23.06 | minerale | is there a package for mysql? |
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| 13:23.24 | minerale | . |
| 13:23.28 | stew | minerale: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 13:23.30 | abrotman | minerale: apt-cache search mysql |
| 13:23.30 | fireba11 | minerale: of course .. use apt-cache search |
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| 13:23.55 | stew | minerale: apt-cache search --names-only mysql |
| 13:24.32 | abrotman | StanTheMan: might help if intel weren't so damn vague :) |
| 13:24.34 | stew | mahatma: modprobe ntfs |
| 13:24.41 | jmd_ | It just seems to have no definitions for anything. |
| 13:24.41 | minerale | thanks, stew |
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| 13:24.45 | StanTheMan | fireball: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?ATTR6=2000150410+1193515356&N=2000150410+1193515356&Submit=ENE&description=RAID&Subcategory=410&Order=priced |
| 13:24.48 | mahatma | minerale: ahh, nice |
| 13:25.26 | citral | someone else noticed "glibc detected *** double free or corruption" with many apps in etch? |
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| 13:26.00 | azeem | citral: which ones? |
| 13:26.03 | jm_ | jmd_: it does find some words for me, but it's either terribly incomplete or not working as it should |
| 13:26.04 | azeem | are there bugs filed already? |
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| 13:26.08 | abrotman | citral: use the G_MALLOC=slice thingy or whatever |
| 13:26.21 | slithy_tove | citral, just had similar error message on evolution |
| 13:26.22 | citral | irssi, galculator, evolution for example. yes, bugs are fiiled |
| 13:26.25 | azeem | abrotman: that only works for programs using glib |
| 13:26.26 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: it's written with two ones btw |
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| 13:26.32 | kimo | anyone using samba clients vs Win2003 server, how do u mount user's profile directories ? |
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| 13:26.46 | azeem | abrotman: I don't think that's related to the glibc double-free checking, but not sure |
| 13:26.57 | abrotman | worst thing he can do is try :) |
| 13:27.00 | jmd_ | jm_: Yeah. It claims to be converted from the ding dictionary. But the ding dictionary is certainly very complete. |
| 13:27.01 | azeem | sure :) |
| 13:27.07 | citral | thanks |
| 13:27.27 | gary | Epiphany is good, fast, light weight, no nonsense. HOWEVER, one really annoying thing is when you do ctrl-t to open a new tab the cursor doesn't go to the address bar. |
| 13:27.41 | tarzeau | gary: light wieght? fast? |
| 13:27.45 | jm_ | jmd_: package size is also fairly small |
| 13:27.46 | tarzeau | gary: ever tried links2 -g or dillo? |
| 13:27.59 | azeem | MALLOC_CHECK_=0 is more useful, though |
| 13:28.01 | apacker | I am running debian stable. Basic configuration of exim4 throws "SMTP protocol violation" when trying to send mail through server from another server. Googling this gives instructions on how to fix, which I added to /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf and then dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config but the same problem shows up. Will post exact mesg to flood momentarily. |
| 13:28.20 | abrotman | azeem: i thought that was the error .. oh well |
| 13:28.21 | azeem | gary: who knows, that might be fixed in 2.14 |
| 13:28.26 | liable | tarzeau: speaking of dillo.. wheres the photos of the wiper motor dildo?? |
| 13:28.41 | tarzeau | liable: the wiper motor has a fixation now... |
| 13:28.54 | azeem | *sigh* |
| 13:28.55 | tarzeau | liable: we've also got a small linkage for the linear movement of a latex penis |
| 13:29.07 | azeem | liable: can you take those questions to /queries, please? |
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| 13:29.11 | tarzeau | liable: the issue is finding a good latex penis. making a holding hole into latex is not so easy |
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| 13:29.49 | abrotman | StanTheMan: let me rephrase .. every mobo manufacturer is vague :) |
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| 13:29.53 | apacker | no one has noticed this new smtp enforcing business with the updated exim? |
| 13:30.13 | apacker | it is supposed to stop spammers but it simply stopped my snap server from sending me important emails... |
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| 13:30.24 | jmd_ | jm_: When I do grep krault /usr/share/dictd/freedict-deu-eng.index I get a result. But when I do "dict krault" I get nothing. |
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| 13:30.41 | abrotman | StanTheMan: because i'm too lazy . i'll concede you were right :) |
| 13:31.13 | apacker | hm, I will try asking the question one final way before I leave y'all alone :) To which file to I add exim4 config options I would like to be incorporated? I told exim not to break my config into many small files but it looks like it did... |
| 13:31.17 | jm_ | jmd_: yeah, it is strange indeed, I have used gcide dictionary and that has always worked well for me |
| 13:31.48 | metellius | ok, so I've finished the basic debian installation. how come x.org is not in aptitude? |
| 13:31.53 | roderyk | can someone explain to me the changes that occured in the wpasupplicant package? I had to reinstall a laptop, and the newest version of wpa_supplicant doesn't have an entry in /etc/init.d/ nor is there any longer a configuration in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf Instead there is a /etc/wpa_supplicant/ifupdown.sh. Should I just add the necessary files myself or can someone explain to me the restructuring? |
| 13:32.10 | abrotman | metellius: are you on sarge or etch/sid ? |
| 13:32.22 | liable | roderyk: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/ |
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| 13:32.35 | liable | roderyk: its all called from interfaces file now. |
| 13:33.00 | metellius | abrotman: not sure really. |
| 13:33.07 | liable | roderyk: you can still have a wpa.conf and source that from interfaces, read the docs |
| 13:33.08 | roderyk | liable: ah, I missed that. thanks, I'll go read that now ;) |
| 13:33.19 | abrotman | metellius: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 13:33.27 | stew | metellius: debian stable has xfree not xorg |
| 13:33.36 | Zugschlus | apacker: see /usr/share/doc/exim4-base/README.Debian.gz |
| 13:33.40 | stew | metellius: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 13:33.51 | kimo | anyone using samba clients vs Win2003 server, how do u mount user's profile directories ? |
| 13:33.51 | cafuego | !info xserver-xorg sarge |
| 13:33.51 | stew | metellius: err aptitude |
| 13:33.51 | jmd_ | jm_: Yeah gcide seems to be OK. |
| 13:33.52 | Zugschlus | roderyk: see wpa-supplicant docs |
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| 13:34.02 | abrotman | cafuego: you wish |
| 13:34.08 | metellius | so I should use testing if I want x.org? |
| 13:34.13 | abrotman | metellius: /topic |
| 13:34.17 | liable | theres backports |
| 13:34.22 | abrotman | metellius: or use etch .. yes |
| 13:34.27 | cafuego | abrotman: I use Xgl, thanks ;-) |
| 13:34.28 | merlincorey | metellius: there is a backport |
| 13:34.33 | abrotman | hehe |
| 13:34.51 | tarzeau | damn firefox crashed |
| 13:34.56 | liable | again! |
| 13:35.01 | tarzeau | piece of shit |
| 13:35.05 | abrotman | use opera! |
| 13:35.10 | liable | ohnos |
| 13:35.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: doesn't exist for my arch |
| 13:35.13 | hjf | heyyyyyyyyyyy good morning ! |
| 13:35.16 | cafuego | telnet never crashes |
| 13:35.22 | stew | never? |
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| 13:35.33 | cafuego | well, OOMkiller might catch it |
| 13:35.44 | cafuego | but that's not technically a crash |
| 13:35.45 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: haven't found a single PCI-E card (that is no video card of course) that is available from a shop in germany |
| 13:35.47 | StanTheMan | fireba11: well you should make it two LLs instead, because it confuses ppl like me with small brains |
| 13:35.48 | jmd_ | Why has the etch verstion of gnome decided to turn off keyboard repeats by default? |
| 13:36.06 | fireba11 | StanTheMan: i would .. but that nick is already registered |
| 13:36.06 | liable | jmd_: maybe the changelog will tell you?? |
| 13:36.26 | metellius | hmm. apt actually wants me to install x-window-system-core when I try to throw in links2 |
| 13:36.28 | cafuego | fireba11: Are you confusing PCI-X with PCI-e? |
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| 13:36.34 | jmd_ | liable: Which package? There's so many of them. |
| 13:36.49 | liable | jmd_: no idea. dont use gnome :) |
| 13:36.50 | fireba11 | cafuego: nope .. both PCI-E and PCI-X i can't find any hardware ^^ |
| 13:37.05 | merlincorey | metellius: then it needs it in that incarnation for something (possibly mouse events or some such?) |
| 13:37.13 | merlincorey | metellius: elinks? |
| 13:37.16 | tarzeau | someone got an update for this with PCI-e and PCI-X ? http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sussudio/ |
| 13:37.34 | tarzeau | merlincorey: i just checkedn links and elinks, they weren't updated for ages in debian. elinks got a new upstream release |
| 13:37.35 | StanTheMan | abrotman: the key is to NOT believe the test of what the manufacturer says what the features of the board are. It is to look at the board photo, or the list of ASICs on the baord. If the board has an LSI RAID asic on it, you'll see it. |
| 13:37.35 | jmd_ | and the mailbox monitor doesn't seem to work anymore. |
| 13:37.52 | tarzeau | metellius: what's the problem with links2 ? got sid? |
| 13:37.54 | liable | merlincorey: wtf? no x apps should actually depend on an xserver |
| 13:37.57 | abrotman | StanTheMan: oh i know .. but it's hard to read what the chips say in a 2"x2" photo :) |
| 13:38.12 | merlincorey | liable: *shrug* I'm not the one getting the error |
| 13:38.21 | tarzeau | metellius: links2 can do graphics without X! using svgalib or fb |
| 13:38.23 | merlincorey | liable: nor am I the one who made the packages |
| 13:38.24 | liable | merlincorey: oh sorry.. |
| 13:38.24 | cafuego | fireba11: http://www.computeruniverse.net/ |
| 13:38.35 | cafuego | fireba11: You're just not looking. |
| 13:39.04 | StanTheMan | abrotman: true. but if a manfctr only provides a 2x2 photo, they are obviously to f*king cheap to produce a mobo that actually has real RAID on board ;) |
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| 13:39.22 | abrotman | StanTheMan: many have real on board scsi .. |
| 13:39.27 | liable | metellius: erm, elinks2 doesnt depend on it, so thats not the thing thats trying to install it..\ |
| 13:39.39 | tarzeau | liable: elinks2 doesn't exist. either elinks or links2 |
| 13:39.41 | cafuego | StanTheMan: if it costs under US$300 it probably has software raid ;-) |
| 13:39.51 | fireba11 | cafuego: now show me where in that shop is a PCI-E network card .. i can't find a sinvle one |
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| 13:39.56 | liable | tarzeau: err, yeah links2. |
| 13:40.12 | cafuego | fireba11: PCI-e is for *graphics* cards. |
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| 13:40.18 | cafuego | fireba11: Did you mean PCI-x? |
| 13:40.25 | liable | tarzeau: makes no difference anyway really. none of em should try to install x |
| 13:40.32 | abrotman | wtf thinks nvidia crap is good enough for servers? |
| 13:40.33 | tarzeau | liable: links2 doesn't |
| 13:40.37 | fireba11 | cafuego: er .. pci-x then .. i keep messing those up |
| 13:40.40 | tarzeau | liable: who says it does? |
| 13:40.46 | liable | tarzeau: metellius |
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| 13:40.59 | tarzeau | metellius: are you sure? |
| 13:41.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: /me |
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| 13:41.17 | abrotman | tarzeau: you also beat your secretary |
| 13:41.18 | fireba11 | cafuego: also for grafics there is PCI-E 16x, ther are PCI-e 1x for normal cards .. and quit confusing me here :-D |
| 13:41.22 | tarzeau | abrotman: she likes it! |
| 13:41.36 | liable | with a wiper driven dildo |
| 13:41.50 | apacker | Zugschlus, thanks! just finding the right helpfile led me to change the correct config file! which, ftr, was /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template |
| 13:41.55 | ahewitt | hey guys, I am trying to get a promise vtrack external raid array working, and I have setup a single raid 5 group with 14 disks which comes to about 3TB, however when I try and run fdisk on the sdg device to create a partition on it it only allows me to create a partition thats ~1TB...how can I use all 3TB?? |
| 13:42.01 | cafuego | fireba11: It lists a few 3Com gigabit PCI-X cards under 'PCI'. |
| 13:42.05 | metellius | actually, i can't install anything because of some stupid locale-bug. have alook: http://metellius.mine.nu/locales-error |
| 13:42.15 | tarzeau | liable: you're just jealous |
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| 13:42.38 | cafuego | Only ⏠173,- |
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| 13:42.48 | liable | tarzeau: indeed, I dont have a sexutary :) |
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| 13:43.15 | fireba11 | cafuego: true .. but no PCI-E network card ^^ only a couple sata-raid cards with PCI-E |
| 13:43.31 | abrotman | metellius: dpkg-reconfigure locales .. pick one |
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| 13:43.42 | StanTheMan | ahewitt: where does the actual RAID hardware reside? inside the host server, or inside the RAID/DISK enclosure? |
| 13:43.56 | metellius | abrotman: "locales is broken or not fully installed" |
| 13:44.12 | abrotman | apt-get -f install |
| 13:44.32 | fireba11 | cafuego: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-E |
| 13:44.36 | cafuego | fireba11: Any are you in desperate need of a PCI-X nic anyway? |
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| 13:44.57 | cafuego | s/Any/Why/ |
| 13:45.16 | metellius | abrotman: nope. see the thing is, apt doesn't believe it's broken, but for some reason it misues validlocale so it only returns the syntax |
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| 13:45.31 | abrotman | metellius: did you define any locales? |
| 13:45.36 | fireba11 | cafuego: i could use one ... can live without it for a while though .. i'm just wondering .. there are cheap 754 boards that ONLY got PCI-E .. no more normal PCI slots .. what will people who got one of those do ? wait 6 months ? :-) |
| 13:45.55 | metellius | abrotman: yes, during the installation. that's when it first bugged and broke |
| 13:46.14 | abrotman | metellius: dpkg-reconfigure locales .. make sure it generates them |
| 13:46.16 | sobersabre | hi, I want to setup exim4 in such a way, that it listens on 127.0.0.1 but does send emails via 'mail' utility to remote machines via the network (not only to the local domain ). which configuration pattern do I need to choose in dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? |
| 13:46.18 | ahewitt | StanTheMan: Im not sure I understand your question, however its an external raid shelf with 14 disks in it. The device is connected via SCSI and I setup the RAID by consoling into the shelf... |
| 13:46.21 | stew | fireba11: cheap 754 boards with no pci and no on-board nic? |
| 13:46.24 | cafuego | fireba11: They tend to have an on-board Gbit nic anyway |
| 13:46.35 | Zugschlus | sobersabre: exim4 _is_ the mail utility |
| 13:46.38 | metellius | abrotman: that's when I got "locales is broken or not fully installed" |
| 13:46.39 | fireba11 | stew with onboard nic .. but still |
| 13:46.45 | stew | fireba11: still what? |
| 13:46.53 | sobersabre | yes, but this doesn't answer my question. |
| 13:47.03 | sobersabre | Zugschlus ... last line was for you. |
| 13:47.03 | StanTheMan | ahewitt: what SCSI card is inside the host server? |
| 13:47.03 | fireba11 | stew still no real selection of add-on cards for those poor guys :-) |
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| 13:47.15 | stew | fireba11: for second or third nics? |
| 13:47.18 | cafuego | fireba11: The nic is far faster then the HDD, so having to upgarde the nic is a moot point unless you ;'re runnign a server, in which case the mobo came with dual Gbit nics anyway. |
| 13:47.23 | abrotman | metellius: apt-get --reinstall install locales |
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| 13:47.39 | fireba11 | cafuego: not for upgrade .. but sometimes you want 2 or 3 MICs |
| 13:47.42 | fireba11 | NICs even |
| 13:47.49 | cafuego | fireba11: The other option is to not buy a crap mob9o to begin with. |
| 13:47.58 | stew | fireba11: then don't buy one of those motherboards |
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| 13:48.11 | ahewitt | StanTheMan: Symbios Logic 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra320 SCSI |
| 13:48.13 | cafuego | If you think you need to plug in two PCI nics, buy a mobo with at least 2 PCI slots <heh> |
| 13:48.50 | cafuego | or go all-out and get a multi-nic PCI-X board. |
| 13:48.54 | sobersabre | anyway there's 'internet site', 'sent by smart host, but received via fetch mail or smtp', 'sent by smarthost. no local mail' ... which one fits what I need ? |
| 13:49.08 | cafuego | (but again, not needed for a lanparty weenie) |
| 13:49.22 | kyo[1] | somebody can say me where in the net I can get oficial tutorials of debian? |
| 13:49.25 | metellius | abrotman: same thing. bugs when it tries to setup locales |
| 13:49.27 | cafuego | sobersabre: What do you use to send/receive mail? |
| 13:49.40 | abrotman | metellius: can you paste the error ? |
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| 13:49.53 | sobersabre | cafuego I want to be able to send emails via exim calls. |
| 13:49.53 | cafuego | sobersabre: firefox or evolution? |
| 13:49.54 | StanTheMan | ahewitt: do you have both channels connected to the RAID enclosure? |
| 13:50.01 | sobersabre | cafuego 'mail' |
| 13:50.03 | sparr | if i have access to an upstream bugzilla/etc, would it be appropriate to file non-debian-specific bugs against the debian packages as well? |
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| 13:50.18 | Zugschlus | sobersabre: that depends |
| 13:50.25 | fireba11 | cafuego stew i'm just wondering why they are not for sale around here ... i saw them in tests over a year ago already .. and they are obviously available in the US |
| 13:50.31 | AngelGabriel | Guys, I need a hand here! I have a problem, i have two machines on diffrent subnets, machine A can SSH to machine B, but not the other way round, i'm at machine B, and need to administer machine A - a few years ago, I was in the reverse situation, and was instructed to SSH into my guru's machine, and he logged into my machine, back along my connection, to fix it. My question is, how do I do that!? |
| 13:50.38 | Zugschlus | sobersabre: does http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html help? |
| 13:50.40 | metellius | abrotman: http://metellius.mine.nu/locales-error |
| 13:50.40 | ahewitt | StanTheMan: no just one channel |
| 13:50.46 | sobersabre | I will read it. |
| 13:50.53 | sobersabre | Zugschlus, ein moment. |
| 13:51.02 | cafuego | sobersabre: You probably want sent via smarthost then. Will you be running an full MX system that can be reached on port 25 on the same IP always? |
| 13:51.28 | stew | fireba11: becuase there isn't a huge market for them |
| 13:52.03 | sobersabre | cafuego I prefer to not have MX record, and to listen on internal non routable interface. to have email working in the LAN, and to be able to send via this internal SMTP to the world. |
| 13:52.16 | cafuego | fireba11: Specialty shows will have them probably, but the average hom suer needs a mobo with 1 gfx card and uses on-aoard sound and nic, nothing else (ever) |
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| 13:52.36 | sobersabre | 'email working in the LAN' meaning: internal hosts can use my exim as SMTP. |
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| 13:52.40 | cafuego | sobersabre: *nod* and email from the world to you comes in via fetchmail off an external MX? |
| 13:52.51 | sobersabre | yepz |
| 13:53.05 | cafuego | sobersabre: "sent by smart host, but received via fetch mail or smtp" then :-) |
| 13:53.17 | sobersabre | thankz then :) |
| 13:53.18 | cafuego | So exim forwards to the smarthost (external MX) |
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| 13:53.45 | cafuego | except if the recipient is local |
| 13:54.26 | lnc | how do you load theme with irssi? |
| 13:54.31 | lnc | or change |
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| 13:55.08 | sobersabre | I knew it should be not compicated... but not that easy ... |
| 13:55.49 | StanTheMan | ahewitt: two things: either the Symbios card isn't recognizing all the LUNs presented by the RAID controller in the disk box (ie. the PCB with RISC CPU, RAM, firmware, SCSI or SATA ports on it); or, the software initiator isn't recognizing them all. So, my gut instinct tells me you need an updated firmware (BIOS) for the Symbios card, or an updated driver. |
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| 13:56.51 | jonathan_ | does anyone know of a place to grab pan .92 for sarge, it seems the new betas are built for unstable. |
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| 13:57.12 | darylhobbs | Hi all |
| 13:57.19 | StanTheMan | ahewitt: either way, I think your best next step is to contact the hardware vendors: the manufacturer of the Symbios based card (or the server manufacturer, if the card was preinstalled in the server), or contact the RAID box manufacturer. The other possibility in in your kernel. |
| 13:57.22 | draconi | hi, I want gaim-2.0.0beta3. now someone told me to use the unstable repository for gaim and gaim-data in my sources.list, can you tell me how to do that? |
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| 13:57.34 | ndee | somehow, my cronjobs don't work: * * * * * /usr/bin/php4 /www/kawasaki.ch/typo3conf/ext/anpa_rsync/res/sync.php that's the line but I get no mail, no nothing, it just doesn't work. Is there a standard error log maybe? |
| 13:58.07 | draconi | ndee, any output from a cronjob is send to the owning user via mail, if you don't redirect it manually |
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| 13:58.23 | ahewitt | StanTheMan: hrmm..cool, cheers for that |
| 13:58.24 | darylhobbs | newbie to linux so any and all help will be welcome |
| 13:58.29 | draconi | he said something about pinning for the package |
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| 13:59.23 | jmp_me | is x.org better/more new then xfree86? |
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| 13:59.56 | jonathan_ | darylhobbs, got a question? just ask. |
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| 14:00.18 | azeem | jmp_me: it's the continuation of xfree86, yes |
| 14:00.20 | roderyk | ok, still a little confused here with wpa_supplicant. Can someone take a look at this, please? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2342 |
| 14:00.47 | minerale | jmp_me: xfree86 was discontinued and the developers moved over to x.org |
| 14:00.47 | draconi | jmp_me, definately, xfree86 development is frozen, xorg is the way to go nowadays |
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| 14:01.09 | darylhobbs | I will be setting up a server in the next couple of days. Any suggestions before I start? |
| 14:01.17 | ndee | draconi: I also get no email. |
| 14:01.18 | azeem | that doesn't mean you need to install x.org if xfree86 works fine for you |
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| 14:01.37 | draconi | ndee, that is strange, but wait a sec, I think I had a similair issue once .. |
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| 14:01.54 | jonathan_ | darylhobbs, what kind of server? web, mail, pront, file.... headless? |
| 14:02.16 | ndee | draconi: ok :) Because like that, it's kinda hard to troubleshoot the problem ;) |
| 14:02.28 | draconi | ndee, mail delivery is local, so it should be in ~/.maildir or /var/mail/$user |
| 14:02.37 | Ronin | darylhobbs: server for what? |
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| 14:02.37 | darylhobbs | compaq 3200 4 proc 450 mhz and 6 18 gig hard drives |
| 14:02.39 | draconi | ndee, but I assume you know that, let's see if I can remember |
| 14:02.44 | bliss1_ | hey |
| 14:02.51 | ndee | draconi: yep, I checked the directories, no mails |
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| 14:03.14 | darylhobbs | local wireless thin clients |
| 14:03.21 | jmp_me | darylhobbs: clean /var/run and /etc/init.d if you don't have much memory. yes |
| 14:03.30 | draconi | ndee, I don't know if "* * * * *" works, you could always try something like "*/1 * * * *" (every minute too) |
| 14:03.42 | draconi | ndee, but please try it with something pretty simple, an "ls /" perhaps |
| 14:03.48 | ndee | draconi: I had */5 * * * * before, also didn't work |
| 14:03.52 | draconi | ndee, that should definately generate output |
| 14:04.01 | draconi | ndee, hm, ok. tried another command yet? |
| 14:04.08 | liable | roderyk: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2343 |
| 14:04.16 | stew | draconi: * * * * * ; and */1 * * * * are equivalent |
| 14:04.55 | draconi | stew, yes, but I was unsure if "* * * * *" would work |
| 14:05.00 | stew | draconi: it would |
| 14:05.13 | bliss1_ | liable: just just checking my sources cos I live in uk and address do not seem to resolve am I making a mistake |
| 14:05.13 | bliss1_ | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 14:05.13 | bliss1_ | deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 14:05.13 | bliss1_ | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
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| 14:05.16 | ndee | draconi: that works. |
| 14:05.29 | ndee | draconi: I do get output from that. Weird. |
| 14:05.49 | draconi | ndee, so you are sure that your php interpreter delivers output? |
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| 14:06.08 | bliss1_ | hey |
| 14:06.11 | ndee | draconi: jep, definitely. |
| 14:06.40 | liable | bliss1_: dont paste in this channel, and yes, those sources should be fine |
| 14:06.49 | jonathan_ | darylhobbs, ahh cool. i never setup thin clients before so i wouldn't be too much help there. what sort of wireless; wpa, wep, radius? |
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| 14:07.10 | draconi | ndee, then I have no idea at all, try to execute a script that sends you a mail with the output of the program in the cronjob ... no other ideas what to do about this |
| 14:07.25 | bliss1_ | liable: ye sorry but they do not resolve well not for me |
| 14:07.43 | ndee | draconi: ok, gonna play around some more :) thanks for the help anyway. |
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| 14:07.49 | draconi | ndee, something like: /usr/bin/php4 /some/php/script.php | mailx -s "cron output" |
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| 14:07.54 | liable | bliss1_: does apt work at all? |
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| 14:08.33 | bliss1_ | liable: does not seem to |
| 14:08.40 | recover | How can I get sndconfig if I use debian sarge? |
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| 14:08.52 | liable | bliss1_: does the net work on that box at all? |
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| 14:09.07 | blaylock | recover, apt-cache search sndconfig ? |
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| 14:09.21 | blaylock | recover, then apt-get install sndconfig |
| 14:09.23 | recover | Yeah, but I can't find it, it's only in unstable |
| 14:09.39 | bliss1_ | liable: i am in a diffrent box at the moment the box were talking about is command line only |
| 14:09.44 | blaylock | hmmm, yeah you're right |
| 14:09.45 | knikker | can anyone recommend SATA-disks(instead of SCSI) for webserver use? |
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| 14:10.31 | jonathan_ | recover, check apt-get.org and see if there is a backport |
| 14:10.33 | blaylock | knikker, are you asking for the type of drives...or just to recommend using SATA over SCSI? |
| 14:10.43 | bliss1_ | liable: i have tried thwm on this box on the web and no they do not work |
| 14:10.47 | liable | bliss1_: if you come here asking for help, it pays to be able to have the box booted and be able to supply answers. there are a few cli irc clients, such as irssi or bitchx |
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| 14:11.42 | darylhobbs | clean /var/run and /etc/init.d if you don't have much memory. yes ??? |
| 14:11.48 | knikker | Blaylock: well, SCSI is alot mor expensive. Is SATA acceptable to use in a web/mailserver? (speed, reliability, etc) |
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| 14:12.03 | liable | bliss1_: you need to find out firstly if the iface card is recognised, secondly id its up, thirdly id the route is correct and also that your nameservers are set correctly |
| 14:12.10 | blaylock | knikker, ive heard its good to use |
| 14:12.15 | liable | s/id/if |
| 14:12.30 | blaylock | knikker, but you'll need to invest in some nice equipment i think |
| 14:12.47 | knikker | I have just heard that IDE-disks are not good in servers |
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| 14:12.54 | blaylock | like a good SATA card if your mobo doesnt support SATA |
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| 14:13.07 | liable | bliss1_: i gotta sleep. someone else here will help you. good luck. :) |
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| 14:13.13 | darylhobbs | jonathan_ new to this so I don't know how to direct reply to your message |
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| 14:13.16 | knikker | ok thanks |
| 14:13.17 | bliss1_ | iface is fine, comes up on boot as ok nameservers are fine route is ok |
| 14:13.19 | blaylock | knikker, SATA isnt really IDE though |
| 14:13.21 | nono31 | hi |
| 14:13.21 | pipeline | knikker: Look, if you're really concerned about it, buy from a major OEM. |
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| 14:13.29 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:13.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:13.31 | nono31 | what's your favourite music player on linux? |
| 14:13.35 | pipeline | blaylock: That's simply not true. Most SATA drives are just ATA with a bridge chip. |
| 14:13.37 | jonathan_ | darylhobbs, no prob. i see you now |
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| 14:13.41 | bliss1_ | liable; yes you get some sleep you will fell ten times better |
| 14:14.14 | blaylock | pipeline, hmmmm.....i thought SATA was its own thing |
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| 14:14.35 | blaylock | pipeline, perhaps i was just mistaken |
| 14:15.00 | blaylock | but I have heard that using sata drives in a raid configuration would work really well |
| 14:15.04 | darylhobbs | We are using linksys nic and wpa with a live cd |
| 14:15.07 | liable | bliss1_: if the iface is up, route is ok, and nameservers are fine, then it should work... try ping by ip, then hostname. |
| 14:15.23 | bliss1_ | liable: ok |
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| 14:15.35 | draconi | can't anyone help me? problem again: someone told me to install gaim-2.0.0beta3 via "apt pinning", but he left before I was able to ask him "how". does anyone know what he meant and how I do this? |
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| 14:15.55 | pipeline | blaylock: SATA is a superset. It's just the next generation of IDE. |
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| 14:16.22 | pipeline | blaylock: The very newest, most expensive SATA gear supports some SCSI-like features, but everything has to support it. The drive, the controller, the drivers... It'll be a few years yet :P |
| 14:16.29 | dmattli | What most people call ide is really pata |
| 14:16.34 | blaylock | can anyone tell me why i would get the error: Don't seem to be have all the variables for eth1/inet. Failed to bring up eth1. |
| 14:16.44 | blaylock | when i issue ifup eth1 |
| 14:16.47 | Tarantulafudge | Can someone ban the user 'Password'? It pm'ed me about porn |
| 14:16.56 | Tarantulafudge | an irc op or somthing |
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| 14:17.16 | metellius | ok, so whatever I try to install just reverts itself because of locales not being installed properly. and aptitude tries to remove everything if I try to remove locales. i am simply put, stuck. |
| 14:17.18 | blaylock | i have all the correct lines in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:18.01 | jonathan_ | darylhobbs, if using wpa i suggest you read up on wpa_supplicant and how to configure. as for the nic make sure it has a linux driver, if not read up on ndiswrapper for using its windows driver within linux. do a google search, i don't have the urls at my fingertips |
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| 14:19.14 | darylhobbs | johnathan_ Ya the live cd has xp driver |
| 14:19.22 | jonathan_ | recover, just curious what do you need sndconfig for? |
| 14:20.06 | resiak | stew: is http://dpkg.vireo.org/ you? |
| 14:20.25 | jonathan_ | darylhobbs, just curious what irc client you using? for name try the first few characters then hit tab... saves strokes and errors |
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| 14:21.02 | recover | jonathan_, trying to set up my soundcard |
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| 14:21.06 | recover | on an old laptop |
| 14:21.14 | recover | having some troubles but I'm getting closer |
| 14:21.19 | jonathan_ | recover, what kind? why not use... say alsa |
| 14:21.35 | roderyk | liable: Thanks for your help so far. This is what I have so far, still no success. http://channels.debian.net/paste/2344 Any more ideas? |
| 14:21.57 | recover | Well... I can't say I'm pro... getting 'Setting up ALSA...done (not loaded).' when I try to load alsa |
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| 14:22.32 | abrotman | metellius: can you find the line in the locales script that is failing? |
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| 14:22.42 | abrotman | metellius: would be in the postinst script |
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| 14:24.00 | metellius | abrotman: where is it located? |
| 14:24.07 | abrotman | /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 14:24.17 | marciofalvo | Hello, somebody can help me how install horde3 + imp4 on Debian? |
| 14:24.20 | jonathan_ | recover, well if you want alsa just use synapitc, install alsa and tools, as root run alsaconf to config sound card. then use a mixer of your choice to adjust levels. i don't think i fully understood what you said |
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| 14:24.41 | abrotman | marciofalvo: apt-get install horde imp ? |
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| 14:25.28 | minerale | is irc.debian part of freenode? or is it a different entity? |
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| 14:25.49 | azeem | minerale: it's just an alias for irc.freenode.net |
| 14:25.57 | abrotman | minerale: currently ... irc.debian.org points to freenode .. this could be changed at some point in the future |
| 14:25.57 | marciofalvo | yes :-) about the configuration files? |
| 14:26.02 | recover | jonathan_, don't have X... And I've installed alsa but somehow it won't load. And when I try to run alsamixer I get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device' |
| 14:26.08 | resiak | abrotman: There's a GR being written to change it, I hear ;) |
| 14:26.15 | abrotman | resiak: as have i |
| 14:26.22 | jonathan_ | recover, one sec |
| 14:26.39 | recover | jonathan_, I've run snddevices and created the device files |
| 14:26.41 | abrotman | resiak: i assume you heard from the same person i did! |
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| 14:26.52 | recover | So they *should* be there |
| 14:26.54 | minerale | I hope that's not that case, I would not like having to be in two different servers... is freenode not "free enough" ? |
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| 14:27.18 | AngelGabriel | Can anyone recommend a decent howto for reverse ssh ? |
| 14:27.26 | abrotman | minerale: i don't think that's the point .. currently it points to freenode .. they *could* change it in the future .. it may or may not |
| 14:28.01 | darylhobbs | Has anyone tried Trend wireless cards |
| 14:28.29 | darylhobbs | jonathan_, tab works gret |
| 14:28.48 | darylhobbs | jonathan_, great |
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| 14:29.03 | minerale | AngelGabriel: are you using putty or cmd line? |
| 14:29.03 | metellius | abrotman: i can't find any echos corresponding to the output during configuration of locales... |
| 14:29.10 | cindy | darylhobbs, i have a trendnet card |
| 14:29.18 | AngelGabriel | minerale, I'll be using the command line |
| 14:29.24 | roderyk | on the bright side, wpa_cli -i eth1 actually gives me a prompt now. It sees the network, but I can't dhcp it. If anyone has any suggestions for ipw2200: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2344 |
| 14:29.27 | abrotman | metellius: it must call the 'validlocale' command |
| 14:29.37 | darylhobbs | cindy, wireless |
| 14:29.42 | cindy | yes |
| 14:29.46 | jonathan_ | recover, you will probably want alsa, alsa-utils, and alsa-oss. to set up the card run alsaconf as root. then try alsamixer to adjust levels |
| 14:29.59 | cindy | it has an athos 5212 chip |
| 14:30.01 | metellius | abrotman: yeah, couldn't find that either. I will grep some more |
| 14:30.11 | darylhobbs | are you using linux |
| 14:30.23 | jonathan_ | darylhobbs, yeah saves time and headaches |
| 14:30.25 | recover | jonathan_, I'll try that, thanks! |
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| 14:30.56 | yos87 | hi |
| 14:31.03 | darylhobbs | cindy, your right there. I'm trying to convert a friend |
| 14:31.13 | minerale | AngelGabriel: see http://del.icio.us/search/?all=ssh+tunnel - lot's of tutorials, but all you do is ssh yourhost.com -R port1:hostOrIp:port2 |
| 14:31.14 | jonathan_ | recover, np. let me know how it goes |
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| 14:32.02 | AngelGabriel | minerale, that's where I get confused - because it's a two stage process, at the local machine, and at the remote machine |
| 14:32.09 | AngelGabriel | i want to know what todo at the remote machine :) |
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| 14:32.43 | minerale | AngelGabriel: once you ssh into the remote machine, the sshd opens up the port and listens... |
| 14:33.29 | abrotman | metellius: anything in /etc/locale.gen |
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| 14:33.32 | minerale | short story: you dont need to do anything on the other end |
| 14:33.58 | metellius | abrotman: ah there we have it. |
| 14:34.02 | abrotman | metellius: ? |
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| 14:34.37 | metellius | my locale.gen is quite interesting: http://metellius.mine.nu/locale.gen |
| 14:34.53 | jdv79 | apt-get install libc6=2.3.6-3 should work, right? |
| 14:35.04 | abrotman | metellius: that's it? |
| 14:35.09 | metellius | abrotman: yes |
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| 14:35.34 | abrotman | metellius: well .. i don't know the code for a .no one .. but i can give you an american one :) |
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| 14:35.35 | abrotman | metellius: en_US ISO-8859-1 |
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| 14:35.47 | abrotman | that's the only line in that server i was looking at |
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| 14:35.52 | metellius | abrotman: so I just fill it up with the locales I want? |
| 14:36.04 | abrotman | metellius: well .. put one in there you know to be good first. |
| 14:36.30 | marciofalvo | hello, please somebody know a good tutorial to install and configure a LAMP with webmail horde3 + IMP4? |
| 14:36.47 | abrotman | apt-get install horde imp |
| 14:36.48 | metellius | abrotman: finally, it worked! thanks for the help |
| 14:36.51 | abrotman | metellius: yay! |
| 14:36.58 | recover | jonathan_, alsaconf doesn't seem to do it.. It comes up some 'modinfo: snd. no such module'. But I can find my card when I do 'modprobe sb' (sorry if this message is a repeat, but I'm getting disconnected all the time) |
| 14:37.31 | abrotman | did you compile your own kernel? |
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| 14:37.46 | jonathan_ | recover, what kind of soundcard? |
| 14:37.59 | mahatma | I'm wondering if nautilus, which ships with sarge, allready got spatial mode or do I need to run unstable? |
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| 14:38.29 | recover | jonathan_, ES1879 |
| 14:38.44 | jdv79 | how do i downgraqde to a specific build of a pkg? |
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| 14:38.56 | recover | jonathan_, I've googled it and a few ppl has got it work, tried to follow what they said but I couldn't get it to work |
| 14:38.58 | draconi | someone told me to install gaim-2.0.0beta3 from unstable (I use testing) via "apt pinning", but he left before I was able to ask him "how". does anyone know what he meant and how I do this? |
| 14:39.08 | abrotman | mahatma: i think it's a gconf setting .. not sure |
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| 14:39.17 | abrotman | draconi: why? |
| 14:39.26 | abrotman | draconi: rather .. why do you want that gaim ? |
| 14:39.43 | redLAW[Mepis_Lin | how can i setup to use ntfs partitons as normal user not only as root |
| 14:40.02 | abrotman | redLAW[Mepis_Lin: ask #mepis |
| 14:40.09 | brammator | how to use synaptic with authenticated proxy? do i need to set http_proxy variable each time i run him? |
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| 14:40.34 | redLAW[Mepis_Lin | ok |
| 14:40.47 | bedboi | doh, sid libstdc++6 still broken? |
| 14:41.11 | jdv79 | what is sid? |
| 14:41.17 | bedboi | debian sid |
| 14:41.20 | bedboi | unstable |
| 14:41.25 | streuner | jdv79: /msg dpkg sid |
| 14:41.26 | azeem | bedboi: glibc got uploaded today which should fix that AFAIK |
| 14:41.41 | AngelGabriel | minerale, so if i create a reverse SSH tunnel from machine A to machine B, can machine B then use that tunnel to log back into machine A? for example if I did ssh -N -p 22 user@machineB.com / L 222/localhost/222 that would create a tunnel from port 222 on machine to port 222 on machine B right? |
| 14:41.42 | bedboi | azeem: cool... |
| 14:41.51 | jonathan_ | recover, yeah i was just poking around on google too. |
| 14:41.51 | azeem | or maybe it needs another gcc upload, dunno |
| 14:41.54 | bedboi | azeem: btw i dist-upgrade right now |
| 14:41.58 | jdv79 | my /etc/debian_version says testing/unstable - so what is it exactly? |
| 14:42.03 | azeem | bedboi: it's still in incoming anyway |
| 14:42.08 | azeem | TTBOMK |
| 14:42.10 | tarzeau | jdv79: what did you put in your sources.list? |
| 14:42.24 | draconi | abrotman, this is a philosophical question. I don't like gaim-1.5 but I LOVE gaim-2.0, that's why |
| 14:42.36 | abrotman | !tell draconi about pinning |
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| 14:42.43 | recover | jonathan_, All I've done is installed debian through floppy with net-drivers and got the default install with a 2.4 kernel. |
| 14:42.56 | draconi | abrotman, that's a start, thanks |
| 14:43.04 | jdv79 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 14:43.04 | jdv79 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 14:43.11 | jdv79 | that's whats in there |
| 14:43.22 | jdv79 | just unstable then? |
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| 14:43.54 | tarzeau | jdv79: yes |
| 14:44.00 | jdv79 | thanks |
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| 14:45.48 | jonathan_ | recover, well i dont know what to say. what kind of computer is it? i would probably run a 2.6 kernel. the easiest way would be to use aptitude, for me anyways |
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| 14:49.07 | jdv79 | http://sial.org/pbot/16698 |
| 14:49.13 | jdv79 | any help? |
| 14:49.27 | jdv79 | i want to install taht specific version |
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| 14:50.09 | jonathan_ | jdv79, if your sources point to unstable then it is unstable |
| 14:50.18 | jdv79 | ok |
| 14:51.10 | AngelGabriel | once an ssh tunnel is made, is it Bi directional? For example, if I connect port 80 of machine A to port 222 on machine B, and then machine B does http://localhost:222 will it then get web traffic from machine A? |
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| 14:52.10 | fireba11 | not with localhost ^^ |
| 14:52.17 | Malagmyr | AngelGabriel: no |
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| 14:53.34 | tm | hello ... i have a 2.6.16.2 kernel and i cannot make any more use of my hauppauge card.. looks like /dev/dvb.. files are not created.. what shall i do, is there any patch to fix this ? |
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| 14:55.32 | jonathan_ | naptime |
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| 14:58.30 | jdv79 | where are the pkgs? |
| 14:58.30 | tarzeau | tm: how do you load your bttv module? |
| 14:58.40 | tarzeau | tm: i have to tell it tuner/card/type=1 don't remember which |
| 14:58.45 | tarzeau | tm: 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:58.47 | jdv79 | i can't make heads or tails of the site pointed to by sources.list |
| 14:59.35 | metellius | ok, so I managed to install xorg from the backports. now I the conflicts start coming when I want to install vim-gtk which depends on xfree86-common, which conflicts with x11-common. why does not vim-gtk realize it has x11-common instead? will I have to pull vim-gtk out of the backports as well? |
| 14:59.36 | tm | tarzeau, i downloaded last 2.6.16.2 kernel.. |
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| 15:00.18 | tm | tarzeau, then used my oldconfig .. from 2.6.15.. which worked.. and was used to create /dev/dvb/adapater.. while with 2.6.16.2.. there is no more /dev/dvb/adapart* files |
| 15:00.52 | kastner | I have an ssl cert with thawte that's about to expire, they want $199 to renew for a year. godaddy is 17.95 for two years... what am I missing here? |
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| 15:01.07 | tm | tarzeau, my card is a full featured hauppauge.. |
| 15:01.30 | tm | tarzeau, rev 2.3 / saa7146 / |
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| 15:03.22 | fluxdude | how do you mount the homedir from a samba server? mount -t smbfs //hostname/homedir localdir -o username=someuser? |
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| 15:04.09 | gary | right, guys. Having lots of problems trying to mount an ntfs drive in linux. I want to mount it so that a certain user can write and change things wihtin it. I have tried everything. This is my fstab: |
| 15:04.21 | gilianima | z=x^y <=> log(z)=log(x^y) <=> log(z)=y*log(x) <=> y=log(z)/log(x) <=> ??? |
| 15:04.32 | gary | /dev/hda1 /mnt/win ntfs users, ownser, rw, uid=1000, umask-777 0 0 |
| 15:04.37 | gary | can anyone please help me? |
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| 15:06.01 | tarzeau | gary: www.linuks.mine.nu/mount/ |
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| 15:06.21 | tarzeau | vorsprung: works ok fine on 32bit intel arch |
| 15:06.26 | k31th | Can anyone here bash script ? |
| 15:06.30 | tarzeau | k31th: yes |
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| 15:06.37 | dippo | hi. I am in the process of upgrading a machine from woody to sarge. ON this machine there are a lot of modules installed (via CPAN or by hand) in /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1. is there any way that you guys know of to facilitate/automate upgrading those modules for perl 5.8.4 that is in sarge? |
| 15:06.45 | k31th | tarzeau: could you help me? its a quick question |
| 15:06.49 | gilianima | how to simplify log(z)/log(x) ? |
| 15:06.51 | tarzeau | k31th: i can't read your mind |
| 15:07.10 | tarzeau | dippo: you've got a problem |
| 15:07.38 | dippo | is my best option merely to list and re-install by hand? |
| 15:07.46 | dippo | sucks for me :) |
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| 15:08.15 | minerale[d] | eh, does gunzip work for .zip files? .... is it gunzip -d file.zip ? |
| 15:08.30 | dippo | i don't think so. apt-get install unzip |
| 15:08.37 | k31th | tarzeau: sure, Ok i have a small scipt for logging into ssh sessions... basically wat i need to do is, have a user enter the hist name for example 'yahoo' and it will ssh to 'yahoo.com' |
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| 15:09.01 | k31th | tarzeau: im doing this so i dont have to remember all my clients ip address + lerarn a little bash. |
| 15:09.06 | k31th | learn* |
| 15:09.10 | Tenkawa | is libgnutls12 currently broken? |
| 15:09.18 | Tenkawa | in unstable |
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| 15:09.48 | Xteven | hello world |
| 15:09.50 | tarzeau | Tenkawa: did you check BTS? |
| 15:09.57 | gary | tarzeau: thanks for the link. however it doesn't work. It gets mounted as r-x-r-x-r-x |
| 15:10.08 | gary | tarzeau: I did chmod it before mounting too |
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| 15:10.13 | Petrov | hoi, i want make a ftp-server. Is that a good guidebook? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/228 |
| 15:10.20 | tarzeau | gary: did you check the umask= option? |
| 15:10.33 | tarzeau | gary: no chmod is not what you want. umask is what you want |
| 15:10.42 | StereoSkit | dudes, is evolution having problems sending emails in unstable? |
| 15:10.48 | tarzeau | Petrov: just install stable debian and then vsftpd or proftpd |
| 15:10.51 | Tenkawa | tarzeau: not yet |
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| 15:10.56 | tarzeau | StereoSkit: can very likely be. check BTS |
| 15:11.00 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 15:11.00 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 15:11.19 | Petrov | tarzeau: oké |
| 15:11.25 | gary | I did chmod -R 777 |
| 15:11.26 | StereoSkit | tarzeau: tnx |
| 15:11.29 | Xteven | before I go browsing through google, maybe someone here can give me a pointer to some website-software that allows several users to edit files (and not files of someone else) ? I'm not thinking about a wiki, which has wiki-syntax. I want plain textfiles |
| 15:11.33 | gary | tarzeau: and I did use -o umask=000 |
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| 15:13.06 | k31th | tarzeau: any ideals then ? |
| 15:14.43 | abrotman | StereoSkit: no problems reading? |
| 15:14.58 | k31th | tarzeau: i presume you dont know ? |
| 15:15.09 | tarzeau | k31th: well yes i know something |
| 15:15.18 | tarzeau | k31th: but it needs you setup PATH and mkdir ~/bin |
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| 15:15.38 | abrotman | http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable |
| 15:15.49 | tarzeau | k31th: make a script called connect put #!/bin/sh newline ssh $0 into it... and ln -s connect whatever |
| 15:15.51 | k31th | tarzeau: shall i paste wat iv done so you can gett better ideal on wat im trying to do ? |
| 15:15.53 | tarzeau | k31th: then run whatever ? |
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| 15:15.59 | abrotman | nice topic in #-devel |
| 15:16.01 | tarzeau | k31th: yes show me. i have no clue what you want |
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| 15:16.10 | k31th | tarzeau: ok thanks. |
| 15:16.17 | tarzeau | k31th: or no, it's raining and i take the bus in 5 minutes. be quick |
| 15:16.26 | xdf | hi i got this problem with apt-get anyone knows what can i do to solve it? http://pastebin.com/653626 |
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| 15:16.51 | k31th | tarzeau: http://pastebin.com/653629 |
| 15:17.22 | v_ | \q |
| 15:17.27 | tarzeau | xdf: yuck can you change to english? |
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| 15:17.40 | tarzeau | k31th: ugh. what for? |
| 15:17.52 | k31th | tarzeau: ? |
| 15:17.58 | mahatma | hello. I'm wondering how to enable norwegian langues for gnome. It won't let me select norwegian in GDM login |
| 15:18.21 | k31th | so i dont have to remember a bunch of ip addressed. |
| 15:18.23 | mahatma | a little hard to search for this top and synaptic doesn't help |
| 15:18.24 | k31th | addresses |
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| 15:19.13 | StereoSkit | abrotman: nop, only sending problems |
| 15:19.36 | xdf | hi.. i got a problem.. when i run apt-get -f install .. it says that the package "asterisk-classic" will be installed then it says "error to process /var/cache/apt/archives/asterisk-classic_1%3a1.2.4.dfsg-7_i386.deb |
| 15:19.36 | xdf | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 15:19.39 | abrotman | StereoSkit: then yes .. check the BTS .. i thought you might be referring to the G_MALLOC issue |
| 15:19.48 | xdf | anyonw knows what can i do to solve that problem? |
| 15:19.51 | abrotman | xdf: paste the whole error |
| 15:19.52 | abrotman | !paste |
| 15:19.53 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 15:20.11 | StereoSkit | abrotman: damn im at work, people are waiting me to send some emails |
| 15:20.13 | xdf | abrotman: thats the whole error |
| 15:20.19 | StereoSkit | ill check it anyway |
| 15:20.31 | abrotman | StereoSkit: http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable |
| 15:20.39 | xdf | http://pastebin.com/653626 |
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| 15:21.14 | initard | anybody know how to adjust the screen size or resolution from the command line? |
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| 15:21.47 | Blissex | initard: yes, some people do. |
| 15:21.49 | jonathan` | I originally installed PHP on deb through apt-get, but if I were to download the tar so I could recompile it with certain options, would the new installation work, or would I have to remove php through apt first? |
| 15:21.56 | mahatma | initard: xrand |
| 15:22.03 | initard | Blissex, nobody likes a smart ass |
| 15:22.05 | initard | hehe |
| 15:22.11 | initard | xrand, thanks |
| 15:22.53 | lepton | jonathan`: I'd remove the deb before installing from .tar |
| 15:22.54 | Blissex | jonathan`: dont compile/install from source if you have to ask questions like that... |
| 15:22.57 | priscila | k31th: as i understood, you are trying to do a list with all usernames and hosts, then you want to put it in a file,for futher usage right? |
| 15:22.57 | k31th | tarzeau: cheers any way |
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| 15:24.18 | jonathan` | is there any way to configure any options with the php that was installed via apt? |
| 15:24.47 | k31th | priscila: ok i have a bunch of clients. i want to be able to run a script, have it prompt for username and company, and i could for example enter keith then debain and it would try and ssh to keith@debian.org |
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| 15:24.50 | jonathan` | I just need it to recognize oracle commands |
| 15:25.05 | jonathan` | or rather, I need to be able to perform oracle functions from php |
| 15:25.10 | k31th | so i need to know a way of taking a user input into a variable |
| 15:25.16 | k31th | i gues? |
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| 15:28.47 | zood | I'm running sarge with kde and I want to print to a networked hp LJ4100. I open up say a pdf in gv then select print and do add printer. The wizard comes up and I select all the options. Then when I get to then end it asks for a username and password, no matter what I choose for these it says "Authentication failed". Anyone know what |
| 15:28.53 | zood | what's wrong? |
| 15:28.58 | ojai | how do you make apt aware of a server's public key (like security.debian.org's 010908312D230C5F key)? |
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| 15:29.26 | TeknoJuce | how do i update the kernel from 2.4 to something recent like this? apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.16-3-386 |
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| 15:29.47 | mahatma | I'm a little puzzled how to set the language for gnome. GDM won't let me select norwegian. Any tools for managing this? |
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| 15:30.26 | user12 | I have a stock install of sarge with smbd installed - How do I make smbd startup everytime I reboot |
| 15:30.27 | user12 | ? |
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| 15:30.59 | petemc | user12: that should be the default |
| 15:31.07 | abrotman | mahatma: did you chooose norwegian when selecting your locales ? |
| 15:31.07 | TeknoJuce | Couldn't find package kernel-image-2.6.16-3-386 |
| 15:31.15 | TeknoJuce | :( |
| 15:31.23 | mahatma | abrotman: I can't remember ever given that option |
| 15:31.39 | user12 | petemc that's what I thought but not starting up when i look at servers running in swat |
| 15:31.47 | lepton | user12: is /etc/init.d/samba there? |
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| 15:32.14 | user12 | lepton - yes it is |
| 15:32.18 | lepton | user12: does ls /etc/rc?.d/*samba print anything? |
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| 15:32.32 | zood | anyone know of a channel to discuss linux printing issues? |
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| 15:32.45 | user12 | lepton yes |
| 15:32.47 | mahatma | zood: #cups |
| 15:32.50 | wdamn | Hi, how can show the speed of a cp command? |
| 15:32.59 | user12 | /etc/rc2.d/K09samba /etc/rc3.d/K09samba |
| 15:33.00 | mahatma | wdamn: time |
| 15:33.01 | TeknoJuce | someone any information about updating the kernel? |
| 15:33.02 | cahoot | zood: http://www.linuxprinting.org/till/printing-tutorial/tut.html#1_3_1 |
| 15:33.02 | lepton | user12: read the man page for update-rc.d, possibly run it |
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| 15:33.19 | priscila | k31th: i wrote a script .. i didnt test it .. but i think it's a good begin |
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| 15:33.31 | lepton | user12: and take a look in your logs after a boot |
| 15:33.46 | bizkit | wdamn: there are patched fileutils available that show the current copy speed, or use mc |
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| 15:34.16 | TeknoJuce | guessing theres no image availible for 2.6.16.3... |
| 15:34.38 | pego | hi, my syslog is flood my raid info when one drive get faulty how can i set that less verbose please ? i m with mdadm |
| 15:34.46 | priscila | k31th: http://pastebin.com/653663 |
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| 15:35.07 | initard | i just installed Debian on my laptop but the screen size is real small and it doesnt have X. My question is how to change the resolution size from the command prompt. |
| 15:35.15 | zood | mahatma, cahoot tnx |
| 15:35.38 | mahatma | initard: xrandr |
| 15:35.43 | LordNazgul | what is the command to join a user to a second group |
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| 15:35.56 | initard | mahatma, does that not require X? |
| 15:35.57 | InfraRed | hi |
| 15:36.03 | InfraRed | where is the 'proper' place to put iptables configs in debian ? |
| 15:36.16 | mahatma | LordNazgul: you can just add him in /etc/groups |
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| 15:36.25 | LordNazgul | thx mahatma |
| 15:36.28 | mahatma | initard: what do you mean?. You can change the xorg.conf file, though |
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| 15:36.49 | TeknoJuce | how do you update the kernel in debian? |
| 15:36.50 | bliss1_ | hi |
| 15:36.50 | initard | mahatma, i dont even have X installed |
| 15:37.15 | mahatma | initard: what do you want to change resolution of then?. The framebuffer? |
| 15:37.30 | bliss1_ | the name that appears in /etc/hostname is it the name of your machine or a FQDN |
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| 15:37.36 | trueno | TeknoJuce, read the kernel-howto |
| 15:37.43 | InfraRed | TeknoJuce: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade |
| 15:37.51 | pego | please how can i do for not loggin this type of thing in syslog ? kernel: raid1: dm-3: rescheduling sector 95881344 |
| 15:38.02 | petemc | bhagabhi: machine name |
| 15:38.02 | recover | Anyone know why I can't find any linux 2.6 kernel for 586tsc? Talking about which, can't find any for any 586... |
| 15:38.05 | petemc | gah |
| 15:38.05 | wdamn | mahatma: thanx |
| 15:38.06 | initard | mahatma, i guess, my command line area is like a 3 by 6 inch rectangle in the center of my laptop screen |
| 15:38.45 | Blissex | recover: use a 386 kernel... |
| 15:38.56 | mahatma | initard: must be a bug then. You using framebuffer now?. how about disabling it? |
| 15:39.05 | bliss1_ | petemc:do you mean bliss1_ to your answer mchine name |
| 15:39.11 | recover | initard, try setting vga=788 in kernel arguments |
| 15:39.12 | Xebitx | I got a huge problem ...for some reason my debian speaks german ...how can I change it? |
| 15:39.17 | recover | worked for me xD |
| 15:39.26 | recover | Blissex, Ok... I'll do that |
| 15:39.27 | trueno | Should I keep the kernel-headers after a kernel update or can I just delete everything in /usr/src? (I am short on HD) |
| 15:39.29 | initard | and reinstall? |
| 15:39.54 | initard | recover, where do i edit kernel arguments? |
| 15:40.00 | petemc | bliss1_: yes |
| 15:40.01 | trueno | recover, use i386 and then make config, telling it to optimize for 586 |
| 15:40.01 | TeknoJuce | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 15:40.04 | recover | initard, in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 15:40.06 | mahatma | initard: on the grub command line |
| 15:40.12 | dorel_ | there's no usdbdevfs anymore in 2.6.16? |
| 15:40.14 | mahatma | initard: well, or the config file |
| 15:40.18 | InfraRed | so.... where is the 'proper' place to put iptables configs ? |
| 15:40.22 | bliss1_ | petemc thanks |
| 15:40.29 | recover | trueno, So you mean compile from source? |
| 15:40.33 | initard | ok, checkin itout |
| 15:40.38 | mahatma | InfraRed: I would put them in /etc/init.d |
| 15:40.45 | initard | quit |
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| 15:40.57 | TeknoJuce | dorel are you running kernel 2.6.16? |
| 15:41.04 | trueno | yes... if you don't find any i386 kernel image package |
| 15:41.17 | dorel_ | TeknoJuce: yeah im trying to get a Logitech webcam working |
| 15:41.22 | trueno | InfraRed, I have them in /var/lib/iptables |
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| 15:41.47 | recover | trueno, are there any major benefit to optimize for 586? |
| 15:41.48 | InfraRed | trueno: no such dir here |
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| 15:42.13 | trueno | InfraRed, maybe create it yourself then... ;-) |
| 15:42.18 | Xteven | can anyone recommend a document management system ? |
| 15:42.28 | InfraRed | Xteven: fdisk |
| 15:42.34 | TeknoJuce | if my processor is a intel coppermine 1ghz would i be using the 386 kernel? |
| 15:42.41 | trueno | recover, I can't tell you figures... |
| 15:42.49 | priscila | k31th: this version works better http://pastebin.com/653677 |
| 15:42.55 | petemc | Xteven: swish-e |
| 15:42.59 | recover | trueno, but I can run with the 386? I'm not so picky with the speed |
| 15:43.29 | woodland | hi |
| 15:43.38 | trueno | recover, yes, you can |
| 15:43.51 | Xteven | petemc : not exactly what I meant :) but thx |
| 15:44.19 | petemc | Xteven: that, combined with other apps - im not sure theres any free software to compete with the likes of docuware |
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| 15:44.29 | Xteven | by DMS I meant: websoftware I can use to let users edit files online |
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| 15:44.34 | petemc | oh |
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| 15:44.57 | quiet | like a WYSIWYG editor? |
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| 15:45.03 | quiet | Joomla or something |
| 15:45.27 | Xteven | quiet : nono, just plain text |
| 15:45.34 | Xteven | I'll check out joomla |
| 15:45.37 | darkness | Hi guys, Dunno if anyone can help. I've just installed a usb2 pci controller card so i can use my ipod. Now under debian and windows all is fine until i plug in the usb to my ipod and then after a couple of mins my o.s locks up? Any ideas? |
| 15:45.42 | quiet | joomla is a CMS.. |
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| 15:45.59 | quiet | i know you want just plain text... but what i'm saying is that it has built in editors.. |
| 15:46.07 | trueno | Should I keep the kernel-headers after a kernel update or can I just delete everything in /usr/src? (I am short on HD) |
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| 15:46.34 | Xteven | quiet : true |
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| 15:46.41 | Xteven | quiet : I've also considered a wiki |
| 15:46.47 | k31th | priscila: wat i need to do is have a way of the user entering a variable. For example when they type yahoo I need to to appear as $yahoo atm it appears as yahoo |
| 15:46.47 | quiet | wiki would work as well |
| 15:47.10 | quiet | Xteven, what is the goal... sorry i wasn't paying attention. |
| 15:47.13 | Xteven | I just don't want any markup language in the text files |
| 15:47.15 | k31th | Wat do [ ] represent in bash ? |
| 15:47.23 | Xebitx | anyone know how to change language in debian? ..it currently speaks german and I want it to remove it and use english og danish instead ...? |
| 15:47.43 | Xteven | quiet : the goal is to let users log in and edit their parts of configuration files |
| 15:47.49 | Xteven | the configfiles are plaintext |
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| 15:48.03 | gnu2it2 | i dont see webmin in etch, am i looking in the wrong place? |
| 15:48.26 | quiet | you mean... like.. users of a debian system... log in and edit their own $HOME/.foo files and whatnot? |
| 15:48.31 | k31th | so if they enter yahoo it will use $yahoo there for this will use the variable i have defined in the script ? |
| 15:48.46 | Xteven | quiet : nono, users of a website |
| 15:48.51 | Xteven | quiet : it's meant as an internal site |
| 15:49.01 | Xteven | quiet : users can login and edit their DNS zone for example |
| 15:49.10 | Xteven | quiet : but I want it more generic, not just dns |
| 15:49.23 | quiet | hrm.. okay.. i'm not really sure |
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| 15:49.33 | quiet | good luck though. |
| 15:49.35 | Suprano | is there a TUI-svn-Client for debian ? or just commandline client. .? |
| 15:49.49 | TeknoJuce | can you use debian 3.1stable and update the kernel to 2.6 it says to use testing or unstable though? |
| 15:49.55 | leaveone | how can i get debian to stop setting the time to GMT on boot |
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| 15:49.59 | Suprano | (i don't wont to install the whole svn server just to use the client) |
| 15:50.00 | Xteven | quiet : thx |
| 15:50.15 | Xteven | quiet : would you have a better term to describe what I need ? |
| 15:50.29 | Xteven | quiet : I'm not sure I need a document management system |
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| 15:51.05 | quiet | well, you want people to login, and edit their own configs (the ones on the client machine that is connecting?) |
| 15:51.26 | quiet | like, they would upload it, modify it, and save it back to their machine? |
| 15:51.45 | leaveone | how can i get debian to stop setting the time to GMT on boot |
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| 15:53.06 | Xteven | quiet : no, the documents would be stored on the server, and they can edit it online |
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| 15:53.54 | quiet | leaveone, cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/your/timezone /etc/localtime |
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| 15:54.21 | quiet | Xteven, i guess i'm just confused as to what the 'config' files are for... like.. theming the web page? |
| 15:54.33 | leaveone | ok thanks |
| 15:54.33 | Xteven | quiet : like a dns zone file |
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| 15:54.50 | Xteven | for example, a user owns the domain example.com |
| 15:54.54 | quiet | what does the dns zone file have anything to do with an intranet site? |
| 15:54.56 | Xteven | he can login and edit the zone for that domain |
| 15:55.03 | quiet | ohh...ok |
| 15:55.40 | zege | hi, i've a big problem with ltsp; my IBM Netvista ThinClient always says: "protocol for boot-file-server not specified" altough the filename argument in dhcpd.conf is set to the correct value. :( I really don't know what to do. |
| 15:55.47 | cusco | beep |
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| 15:56.56 | quiet | Xteven, well, it sounds like you're going to have to edit much of it by hand... if so.. you could just setup form field text areas, that could display the file, allow changes, and then program a button to resave the document.. |
| 15:57.06 | metellius | are there anyone here who has installed ati's proprietary drivers? how did you do it? is there a repository, or will I have to go with ati's installer? |
| 15:57.32 | Xteven | quiet : indeed, I could. But it would be even nicer if such a system was already in existence and being maintained |
| 15:58.20 | quiet | you may be able to do it with something like joomla.. just add the config files to the site... |
| 15:58.25 | disposable | how do i find out what package apt-key is a part of? |
| 15:58.33 | Xteven | quiet : yup |
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| 15:58.50 | Xteven | quiet : so the question now becomes: what is the most basic CMS around ? |
| 15:59.01 | jonathan` | does the oracle-xe via apt come with the instant client? |
| 15:59.09 | Xebitx | can someone help me with this language problem ...I need to set debian to use english language instead of german |
| 15:59.13 | dorel_ | with 'lsusb' i see the logitech camera listed. do i need to load a special module for it? or can i just install some web conference camera and start using it? |
| 15:59.52 | leaveone | quiet, should i have to reboot for the changes to take effect? |
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| 16:01.29 | quiet | leaveone, probably |
| 16:01.31 | faber2 | hello |
| 16:01.39 | leaveone | oh ok.. thanks |
| 16:01.50 | faber2 | whats linux-image would you recommend for a XEON 2.4 GHZ single cpu machine? |
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| 16:02.45 | quiet | is tat a 64 bit xeon? |
| 16:02.49 | quiet | that* |
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| 16:03.25 | quiet | faber2, |
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| 16:04.08 | cahoot | Xebitx: try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 16:04.16 | faber2 | quiet: how would i see if it was 64 bit? |
| 16:04.17 | Xebitx | k |
| 16:04.34 | Xebitx | it asks for some utf-8 or iso |
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| 16:05.49 | quiet | faber2, you should know this... i'm not exactly sure how you would check... if it's a 64-bit machien you should be running 64-bit Debian.. |
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| 16:06.00 | quiet | if not... i would jsut say to install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
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| 16:06.13 | faber2 | quiet: its not 64bit. pretty sure |
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| 16:06.28 | quiet | ok, then use the one i said |
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| 16:07.43 | slapin | Hi, all! Are there any ARM-EABI wizards here? |
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| 16:09.26 | Xebitx | how can I save all settings I have changed to my debian system before restarting? |
| 16:09.56 | Xebitx | like I just changed language |
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| 16:10.46 | azeem | Xebitx: which desktop environment are you using? |
| 16:10.59 | Xebitx | none ..im on a remote machine |
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| 16:11.15 | azeem | Xebitx: so how did you change the language? |
| 16:11.25 | Xebitx | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 16:12.03 | gnufan2 | Rats -- trying to migrate web server from a box that has 2.6.8 to 2.4.27.. the aliasing of IP addresses is behaving oddly. In that remote servers (some) appear to be denied access. The incoming SYN packets arrive, but the responses don't make it. It isn't simple routing as other protocols work. Anyone seen anything like this with Apache or 2.4.27? |
| 16:12.26 | lesshaste | is there a 32 bit mplayer for 64 bit debian sid? |
| 16:12.27 | SimonRaven | nope |
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| 16:12.54 | lesshaste | SimonRaven, was that for me? |
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| 16:13.04 | DanC | hmm... using linux-image-2.6.16-1-686, I'm getting "Unknown symbol in module" errors for all sorts of sound modules. I'm trying to use snd-ens1371 |
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| 16:13.19 | DanC | I can't seem to get any relevant hits via google |
| 16:13.49 | DanC | I just did a dist-upgrade. was running 2.6.6 previously |
| 16:13.56 | lesshaste | I don't seem to see it at ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/Packages for example |
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| 16:14.53 | Xebitx | my etc/environment file says |
| 16:14.54 | Xebitx | LANGUAGE="de_DE:de:en_GB:en" |
| 16:14.54 | Xebitx | LANG=en_DK |
| 16:14.56 | DanC | hmm... snd: Unknown parameter `device_mode' |
| 16:15.07 | Xebitx | even though I just reconfigured locales |
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| 16:15.44 | ecliptik | when I ssh from my local network (192.168.0.0/24) it take 10 seconds to prompt for a username, but when it's off network it comes up immediately. Any ideas? My hosts.allow file is correct, ssh -vvv didn't show anything, and the logs aren't helping. |
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| 16:16.16 | lesshaste | any ideas? |
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| 16:16.54 | lesshaste | ecliptik, reverse dns troubles? |
| 16:17.03 | Xebitx | can someone tell me how to fix this: http://pastebin.com/653728 |
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| 16:17.46 | ecliptik | lesshaste, I thought so too, especially since this happened after my cable modems IP changed, but my resolv.conf is pointing to the proper DNS servers |
| 16:17.53 | azeem | Xebitx: there's nothing to fix |
| 16:17.55 | jonathan` | is there a way to find the path of a program that was installed through apt? |
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| 16:18.05 | stew | jonathan`: dpkg -L packagename |
| 16:18.11 | azeem | Xebitx: you try to configure a package called `environment' which does not exist |
| 16:18.32 | Xebitx | ok |
| 16:18.38 | Xebitx | but the enviorement file |
| 16:18.43 | Xebitx | keeps saying de_DE |
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| 16:18.50 | Xebitx | and I dont want my system with german language |
| 16:18.55 | Xebitx | only english |
| 16:18.55 | azeem | so edit it? |
| 16:19.02 | Xebitx | I dont know what to change it to |
| 16:19.07 | azeem | I'm not sure, maybe dpkg-reconfigure locales changes that |
| 16:19.11 | Xebitx | I did |
| 16:19.14 | azeem | Xebitx: you could just remove the line |
| 16:19.22 | priscila | Xebitx: you must reconfigure your locales |
| 16:19.26 | Xebitx | I did |
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| 16:19.39 | Xebitx | but that de_DE is still in enviorement |
| 16:19.54 | faber2 | i removed lilo and installed grub. how can i get debian to configure my kernel ? i dont have a /boot/grub yet |
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| 16:20.06 | ecliptik | lesshaste, I hard set my local IP in /etc/hosts and it sped up, thanks |
| 16:20.06 | priscila | Xebitx: try to modify $LC_ALL to en_US int your .bashrc export LC_ALL="en_US" |
| 16:20.19 | lesshaste | ecliptik, no problem :) |
| 16:20.27 | stew | faber2: /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian |
| 16:20.30 | Xebitx | priscila? |
| 16:20.30 | priscila | Xebitx: or export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 16:20.39 | lesshaste | is there a 32 bit mplayer for 64 bit debian sid? |
| 16:20.44 | lesshaste | I don't seem to see it at ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/Packages for example |
| 16:20.55 | faber2 | stew: not found? |
| 16:21.06 | priscila | xirjs: did you want to use english on your system? |
| 16:21.20 | faber2 | stew: ah -doc is separate |
| 16:21.25 | Xebitx | yeah |
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| 16:21.36 | Xebitx | its currently set to german |
| 16:21.50 | stew | faber2: there should be a README.Debian or a README.Debian.gz regardless |
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| 16:21.59 | bliss1_ | hi |
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| 16:22.17 | bliss1_ | where can I get a sources list for germany |
| 16:22.27 | priscila | Xebitx: so, you must reconfigure your locales with dpkg-reconfigure and set the LC_ALL variable to english |
| 16:22.27 | Ronin | bliss1_: apt-setup |
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| 16:23.19 | bliss1_ | Ronin; thanks |
| 16:23.35 | Xebitx | priscila ..let me show you which error I get when I do: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 16:23.42 | dorel_ | i already have a capture card runing on /dev/video0 (v4l2) and i've loaded up my quickcam module as well... can they work together? |
| 16:23.56 | Xebitx | http://pastebin.com/653745 |
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| 16:24.34 | lesshaste | is there a policy against answering mplayer/64 bit questions here? |
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| 16:24.59 | pego | hi is that normal that md drive take 100% cpu when 1 drive fail ? |
| 16:25.12 | acron0248 | hi....a question about apt-build.list if you permit it.... |
| 16:25.24 | zood | Whenever I try to print, it fails and I see a message in /var/log/cups/error_log saying "Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed?". I did install the gs-esp package but this hasn't fixed the problem. Anyone have a suggestion? |
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| 16:25.54 | acron0248 | I have to edit it to remove some packages like gcc, libc6 and kernel |
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| 16:26.24 | acron0248 | but, there's another critical package that I should remove? |
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| 16:27.24 | priscila | Xebitx: is the string at LANGUAGE and LANG a valid locale? i think it's what the error means, |
| 16:27.40 | Xebitx | no its not valid |
| 16:27.44 | Xebitx | its set to german |
| 16:27.50 | Xebitx | it should be english |
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| 16:28.06 | priscila | Xebitx: why didnt you change then? |
| 16:28.11 | priscila | ops |
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| 16:28.13 | priscila | them |
| 16:28.19 | Xebitx | why do I change them? |
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| 16:28.41 | Xebitx | where* |
| 16:28.46 | priscila | Xebitx: export LANG="string" ; export LANGUAGE="string" |
| 16:29.10 | priscila | Xebitx: you can put it in your ~/.bashrc |
| 16:29.15 | pego | how can i disable raid entry in klogd please |
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| 16:29.54 | xen | are there any known unstable library problems about? My system seems broken in multiple ways since running dist-upgrade last night. |
| 16:29.56 | Xebitx | priscila im not quite following where I should put that |
| 16:29.58 | priscila | Xebitx: after you can run 'source ~/.bashrc' to reload the file |
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| 16:30.06 | mz_work | anyone a master of tftp? i need to do something like: tftp put <file> <host> but cannot get the syntax right |
| 16:30.26 | priscila | Xebitx: as i said, in your .bashrc at your home dir |
| 16:30.36 | Xebitx | im on root |
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| 16:30.42 | SimonRaven | !tell mz_work -about guru |
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| 16:31.30 | acron0248 | If I remove the cupsys from apt-build.list is ok? |
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| 16:32.52 | acron0248 | the apt-build.list is too long, that's why I'm lost with the package to remove from it |
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| 16:33.07 | cahoot | Xebitx: you really want to read something like this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference |
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| 16:33.19 | linuxshop | hey ppl |
| 16:33.49 | mz_work | ok fine is anyone vaguley familiar w/ tftp? |
| 16:34.04 | linuxshop | does anyone know how tu use iptables? |
| 16:34.19 | Xebitx | .bashrc doesnt exist |
| 16:34.22 | Xebitx | in /home |
| 16:34.31 | xen | anyone experiencing library problems from a recent apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 16:34.33 | cahoot | Xebitx: this section: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n |
| 16:34.59 | acron0248 | .bashrc is in your /home/usrname directory |
| 16:35.11 | Xebitx | problem is |
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| 16:35.17 | Xebitx | I dont have any users on my system |
| 16:35.22 | Xebitx | only root |
| 16:35.50 | acron0248 | then, search in /root/.bashrc |
| 16:36.00 | cahoot | Xebitx: you run debian? |
| 16:36.05 | Xebitx | yeah |
| 16:36.22 | Xebitx | there it is |
| 16:36.28 | Xebitx | acron0248 ..found it |
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| 16:36.45 | acron0248 | you should have an user directory, is created by default |
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| 16:37.02 | Xebitx | well its a special setup |
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| 16:37.09 | Xebitx | it runs on a virtual machine |
| 16:37.10 | acron0248 | ah..... |
| 16:37.17 | Xebitx | and im connected to it with ssh |
| 16:37.35 | Xebitx | I can restart it and reinstall it remotely with a vls system |
| 16:37.35 | quiet | hrm... any reason why sarge with 2.4 can reboot this server, but 2.6 just hangs... screen goes black.. but the amchine never cycles.. |
| 16:37.51 | SimonRaven | mz_work: usually it's just like what you said. it's not working? |
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| 16:38.36 | Romano2K | hi everyone! would somebody tell me how to specify the standard video mode at the LILO prompt ? |
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| 16:39.04 | acron0248 | well, there's some link to know what packages should I remove from my apt-build.list? |
| 16:39.09 | quiet | vga=792 for 1024x768x24 bit |
| 16:39.15 | initard | whats the easiest bestest and especially fastes x server for debian? |
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| 16:39.42 | mz_work | SimonRaven: nah...I must be doing something wrong |
| 16:39.50 | Coweater | initard: there's only two, and neither is spectactularly better than the other |
| 16:40.00 | acron0248 | I searched but always say the same: gcc, libc6, kernel and others critical....... |
| 16:40.00 | initard | Coweater, what are they? |
| 16:40.10 | initard | gnome and somtin else? |
| 16:40.13 | Coweater | xorg and xfree |
| 16:40.17 | initard | ahhh |
| 16:40.20 | Coweater | oh you want a desktop environment |
| 16:40.21 | quiet | there is more than 2.. |
| 16:40.27 | quiet | x servers |
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| 16:40.38 | initard | i need everything to install a desktop |
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| 16:40.46 | SimonRaven | mz_work: try tftp host filename |
| 16:41.04 | dpirotte | Hi there. I have a debian sarge dhcp server serving windows xp clients. We changed some configurations about 3 months ago, though, and sometimes the clients get what appears to be old dhcp info. There is not any apparent rhyme or reason to why the clients pick up old/bad information. I've sent dhcpdiscover packets over the network and only get a response from the one server, so there doesn't appear to be a rogue server anywhere. |
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| 16:43.05 | Coweater | initard: you want to install x-window-system, and either a window manager or desktop environment (pretty good list at http://xwinman.org/ ) |
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| 16:43.17 | TeknoJuce | any estimates how long kernal 2.6 will take to compile on a 1Ghz proc in general? |
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| 16:43.35 | TeknoJuce | hour? |
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| 16:44.31 | starfishy | TeknoJuce: depends a lot on other factors |
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| 16:44.39 | TeknoJuce | okay but any guess |
| 16:44.39 | SimonRaven | weee netsplit |
| 16:44.39 | SimonRaven | join |
| 16:44.46 | kronoz | :/ |
| 16:45.03 | starfishy | id say if you have enough RAM and dont compile too many options into it ~1/2h |
| 16:45.11 | TeknoJuce | okay thanks |
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| 16:45.35 | TeknoJuce | is it bad to use older config files ? |
| 16:45.51 | acron0248 | anybody know what packages remove from apt-build.list? other than kernel, gcc and libc6? |
| 16:45.57 | iobound2 | hi guys, i've an eth0 and eth1, using e1000 and skge drivers, but the names are assignedr randomly for each bootup. how can i force eth0 to use the e1000 driver? |
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| 16:46.01 | iobound2 | (debian testing) |
| 16:47.02 | cahoot | iobound2: tried alias eth0 e1000? |
| 16:47.04 | starfishy | TeknoJuice: not bad, but it will ask you questions |
| 16:47.15 | iobound2 | cahoot where do i put that? /etc/modules, or somewhere under /etc/modutils? |
| 16:47.24 | iobound2 | where can I find documentation on how the /etc/modules and update-modules stuff work? |
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| 16:48.07 | zimm2 | anyone know why /dev/video* doesnt exist for me ? trying to get a (i believe) conexant dvb-t tuner to work on my laptop, having little success |
| 16:48.08 | metellius | does debian have shared memory enabled by default? |
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| 16:48.28 | cahoot | iobound2: in /etc/modutils/aliases I guess - if you use a 2.4 kernel |
| 16:48.34 | iobound2 | i'm on 2.6.16.2 |
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| 16:48.52 | cahoot | iobound2: in /etc/modprobe.d then |
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| 16:49.14 | iobound2 | cahoot, is that documented somewhere? |
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| 16:50.36 | Thanatermesis | any way to know the "remaining time" for a package of unstable enter on ETCH ? |
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| 16:51.07 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 16:51.07 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 16:51.15 | corridor31 | re |
| 16:51.20 | cahoot | Thanatermesis: some indication here: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/ |
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| 16:52.12 | iobound2 | cahoot ah, i found something similar to what you say documented in http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO-2.html#ss2.4 |
| 16:52.15 | iobound2 | thanks, then |
| 16:52.30 | iobound2 | it appears to be working |
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| 16:53.08 | Thanatermesis | cahoot some ? thanks, i make a look... but not exist a thing more "official debian" ? similar to the BTS or a similar thing ? |
| 16:53.36 | cahoot | Thanatermesis: you *are* hard to satisfy |
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| 16:53.59 | plbgnr | hello, I added to /etc/fstab line ' /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs rw,users,umask=022 0 0' and as root did run 'mount -a' but still can't as user read content ... |
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| 16:54.19 | lepton | plbgnr: can root "read content |
| 16:54.20 | DimmuR | I've question about binary hdd copy - can dd handle this (byte-by-byte copy hdd with non used sectors also) ? |
| 16:54.34 | iobound2 | DimmuR yeah that's what it does |
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| 16:54.45 | roler | I am having a big problem with videos in linux. I have the windows codecs, everything plays... but the colors just aren't right. It's like i'm watching videos in 8bit, while pictures and websites display perfectly fine.. |
| 16:54.51 | zenwryly | Is anyone having library issues from recent dist-upgrade? |
| 16:55.00 | plbgnr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.11 | lepton | plbgnr: then fix the permissions |
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| 16:55.27 | DimmuR | iobound2: thanks i've a laaarge backup to do (800GB) |
| 16:55.34 | plbgnr | lepton:'dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2006-04-10 20:51 hda1' |
| 16:55.45 | Thanatermesis | cahoot hahahaha, nah, i just need a way to know this thing for when i need :) |
| 16:55.45 | plbgnr | lepton: that's the way? |
| 16:55.48 | lepton | plbgnr: 'man chmod' |
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| 16:56.19 | plbgnr | lepton: I thought that always can be set with fstab file |
| 16:56.22 | cahoot | Thanatermesis: it links to what seems to me as official debian pages |
| 16:56.40 | plbgnr | lepton:s/always/all/ |
| 16:56.46 | metellius | are there anyone here who has installed ati's proprietary drivers? how did you do it? is there a repository, or will I have to go with ati's installer? |
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| 16:57.53 | abrotman | !ati |
| 16:57.53 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
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| 16:58.28 | lepton | plbgnr: I would lose the umask from fstab and just set the permissions on files and dirs |
| 16:58.50 | quiet | dpkg -l | grep kernel-image shows me the 2.4's thati want, but it also has kernel-image-2 2.6.8-16sarge2 how do i remove it?? i can't get anything to work with apt-get remove or dpkg -P |
| 16:58.50 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep kernel-image shows me the 2.4's thati want, but it also has kernel-image-2 2.6.8-16sarge2 how do i remove it?? i can't get anything to work with apt-get remove or dpkg -P |
| 16:59.01 | quiet | whoops |
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| 16:59.06 | SimonRaven | !abrotman |
| 16:59.06 | dpkg | i guess abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 16:59.27 | SimonRaven | oh that's old |
| 16:59.29 | lepton | quiet: next time maybe d.p.k.g ? |
| 16:59.34 | Thanatermesis | yes cahoot, thanks, i think to its good for what i need :) |
| 16:59.34 | abrotman | it is |
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| 17:00.05 | quiet | lepton, maybe, but that still doesn't help with my problem. |
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| 17:02.38 | linuxshop | does anyone know how to use qmail |
| 17:03.15 | citral | in soviet russia, qmail runs you |
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| 17:04.55 | initard | Is there any way i can browse the iso that i'm using for my apt sources from a command line? i read man apt-get but i dont know what i can get unless i know whats availabe |
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| 17:05.16 | Frostbite | Is there any diisadvantage in going for 1Mbps CDR 95th Percentile over 50GB/month if they are the same price?] |
| 17:05.26 | zege | hi, does anyone know, how to configure the tftpd server? |
| 17:06.09 | nkuttler | initard: what do you mean? is it an image or a cd? |
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| 17:06.25 | initard | it's an iso image on a seperat partition |
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| 17:08.09 | nkuttler | initard: what do you mean by browsing it? you can look what files are on it. maybe apt-cdrom can be used for images, check the man page |
| 17:08.16 | System- | hi, what boot installer would i need for installing debian on an amd machine? |
| 17:08.17 | ivans | greetings! How can I play real video and or wmv on amd64? I use debian sid and amd64 video software from marillat. |
| 17:09.02 | thingfish | System-: is it amd64? |
| 17:09.19 | System- | its an amd prosessor |
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| 17:09.23 | yel | hi everyone |
| 17:09.35 | System- | fairly old so wouldnt have thought it was 64 |
| 17:09.48 | System- | amd duran |
| 17:09.53 | System- | *duron |
| 17:09.59 | thingfish | System-: ok you're good then - just use the normal sarge installer. |
| 17:10.03 | yel | im looking for a svn howto for debian and i wanted to ask if anyone of you have such an info for me ! ? |
| 17:10.15 | System- | thingfish, what i386? |
| 17:10.23 | initard | nkuttler, ok, its just that i tried to cd into blahblah.iso and it just says "not a directory" so i dont know how to get in there, i'm only using command line, no x yet. |
| 17:10.28 | Shadowcat | svn how-to? |
| 17:10.36 | thingfish | System-: you have a fast internet connection? |
| 17:10.40 | Shadowcat | aptitude install subversion subversion-tools |
| 17:10.41 | Shadowcat | done |
| 17:10.49 | System- | have a cable connection |
| 17:10.59 | Shadowcat | if you don't know how to use subversion itself however, you should read the official SVN book |
| 17:11.00 | yel | how to set a repo and stuff ? |
| 17:11.06 | thingfish | !d-i System- |
| 17:11.06 | dpkg | System-, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 17:11.14 | Shadowcat | yel: read the Subversion Book |
| 17:11.16 | thingfish | System-: ^^ |
| 17:11.18 | Shadowcat | that's what it's for |
| 17:11.19 | System- | thingfish, i tried the i386 boot floppy and it failed :-/ |
| 17:11.20 | yel | thanks ;) |
| 17:11.38 | thingfish | System-: you can't use a cdrom? |
| 17:11.56 | System- | no the cd drive doesnt work |
| 17:11.57 | nkuttler | initard: mount it, man mount, read about the loop device |
| 17:12.16 | System- | thats why im attempting a net install |
| 17:12.18 | thingfish | System-: I guess I didn't catch you making that clear first. |
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| 17:12.49 | System- | oh sorry, i just said boot installer, i meant floppy boot installer, sorry |
| 17:12.59 | thingfish | System-: sorry, I have no experience with the boot floppies. Keep asking around. |
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| 17:13.48 | initard | nkuttler, did, tried -o option and it printed an error, i forget what it said tho |
| 17:13.54 | System- | so, does anyone know what boot floppies i will need to start a net install on an amd machine? |
| 17:14.24 | initard | i have to reboot outta this ubuntu and into the deb everytime i want to try something |
| 17:15.06 | initard | UNLESS theres a way to ssh into another os on another partition... is there? that would be crazy. |
| 17:15.38 | azeem | initard: chroot |
| 17:16.02 | azeem | initard: or you can let the other OS's display manager run on a second X server you start locally |
| 17:16.10 | azeem | and login via alt+f8 |
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| 17:17.01 | initard | the other os (debian) is just core system, no X no internet no nuthin |
| 17:17.20 | Ronin | initard: so? install a term irc client and run it in screen and rejoin here |
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| 17:18.06 | dudus | hello. |
| 17:18.08 | initard | ok, now im trippin |
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| 17:18.19 | initard | it just kicked in |
| 17:18.22 | azeem | initard: then you can still chroot into it |
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| 17:18.58 | dudus | How can I install mysqli support for php |
| 17:19.05 | gary | I'm trying to rm -rf .mozilla as it is completely forked. I have done apt-get remove, but want to remove this directory or at least some of the sub directories to clean it up a bit |
| 17:19.09 | gary | However, it errors with this: |
| 17:19.19 | Thanatermesis | OT: any person knows how to make a sound in wav format (event sound), with a good quality and don't needs 1 f**** mb of size ? :S |
| 17:19.21 | System- | so, does anyone know what boot floppies i will need to start a net install on an amd machine? |
| 17:19.25 | gary | rm: cannot lstat `.mozilla//firefox/rjjtauja.default/Cache.Trash/Trash': Input/output error |
| 17:19.28 | gary | any ideas why? |
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| 17:19.59 | Thanatermesis | im trying to add a sound played when a email enter for a modified package... but i don't want 1 MB more for this package just for the f*** sound |
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| 17:20.40 | priscila | gary: do you have permission to delete it? |
| 17:20.53 | gary | yes, I tried as root too |
| 17:21.02 | gary | plus, I own the files, and have write permissions so can't see why it doesn't work |
| 17:21.14 | gary | Input/Output error (in my humble experience) usually suggests something quite messy |
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| 17:21.41 | cahoot | Thanatermesis: you look for an app to produce a wav ? |
| 17:22.16 | bizkit | Thanatermesis: use mp3 or ogg vorbis and require libs or software to play them within the modified package |
| 17:22.25 | gary | is there a way to install a program (via apt-get) but specify where it's config/hidden files should go: i.e. apt-get install program --files-go=~/.whatever/ |
| 17:22.33 | priscila | gary: i wonder if its an error on the hd .. does it have badblocks? |
| 17:22.39 | System- | so, does anyone know what boot floppies i will need to start a net install on an amd machine? |
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| 17:22.58 | gary | hmmm, done a few disk checks over the past few days, but they all just cleared themselves up and that was that |
| 17:23.08 | Thanatermesis | cahoot not really... im trying to modify a little the package thunderbird for play a sound when a email enter (and no a beep in the pc-speaker), but it needs a f*** wav format *sigh*, and a little file with quality needs 1 mb :/ |
| 17:23.30 | priscila | i get this type of error when i try to read or write on a damaged disk |
| 17:23.40 | Thanatermesis | bizkit this is the prpblem, thunderbird requires a wav file, don't accept a mp3/ogg |
| 17:24.59 | bizkit | Thanatermesis: i don't understand your problem.. if you use such an big mail app, why should a 1mb soundfile be a problem? |
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| 17:25.14 | System- | so, does anyone know what boot floppies i will need to start a net install on an amd machine? |
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| 17:26.05 | cahoot | Thanatermesis: pipe an ogg through ecasound with wav as output |
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| 17:27.29 | tewmas | can I check if a server is using RAID 1 in any way? without entering the setup at startup (only have SSH access) |
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| 17:28.23 | carbon60 | Anyone around install Sarge on a HP Netserver LH 3? |
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| 17:28.46 | pipeline | carbon60: Ask a real question. Rule of thumb: People will ignore anything including the word "anyone" |
| 17:28.52 | holden | hi. can anyone point me to documentation on how to install a TESTING package on a STABLE system? |
| 17:28.56 | carbon60 | pipeline: Sorry, I'll rephrease. |
| 17:28.58 | carbon60 | LOL |
| 17:28.58 | pipeline | holden: You can't. |
| 17:29.10 | pipeline | carbon60: "LOL" is also a big no-no. You tread dangerous ground. |
| 17:29.18 | linuxshop | so does anyone know any qmail! please help me |
| 17:29.23 | pipeline | holden: Or rather, while it's technically possible, it'll hose your system badly. |
| 17:29.26 | Thanatermesis | bizkit because i want to repack it, for a liveCD (where the size is more preciated than gold) |
| 17:29.44 | Thanatermesis | cahoot no... the application only accepts a .wav file |
| 17:29.48 | pipeline | holden: If you need newer packages that are not included in stable, you either need to upgrade to testing, or use third-party repositories that build things FOR stable that aren't included IN stable (e.g. backports.org) |
| 17:29.50 | holden | pipeline: why's that? i though it was a rather common practice |
| 17:30.02 | JoshH | it is, it CAN hose your system though |
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| 17:30.09 | pipeline | holden: No. Not at all. It's common practice to use unstable packages inside of testing, but testing is a couple of years ahead of stable. Bad idea. |
| 17:30.15 | carbon60 | I'm attempting to install Sarge on an HP Netserver LH 3, which has a PCI e100. Trying to UP the interface produces a "Device or resource busy" error. What does this typically indicate? |
| 17:30.30 | holden | pipeline: ah i see. i want ratpoison 1.4 :( |
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| 17:30.38 | pipeline | carbon60: Hmm. That's pretty weird. Did it come with the e100, or did you put it in yourself? |
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| 17:30.43 | lepton | holden: if you need the latest/cutting edge, consider installing from source and using stow |
| 17:30.45 | pipeline | holden: Try backports.org, or upgrade to testing. |
| 17:30.56 | ree | Hi everyone, I did an upgrade on SID and have an extremely high load in X, no idea why, top does not show the process, --- any hint please is welcome! |
| 17:31.04 | ice_1963 | hello i am running lynx for a web browser text base i need to use my printer what do i need to install to get the hp to work for text base? |
| 17:31.05 | carbon60 | pipeline: I _assume_ it came with it. There is nothing onboard. |
| 17:31.19 | linuxshop | so does anyone know any qmail! please help me |
| 17:31.25 | holden | pipeline: i think im going to upgrade to testing. it's just for my desktop system anyways (not a server). testing is stable enough for desktop everyday use right? |
| 17:31.29 | lepton | linuxshop: what's the question? |
| 17:31.31 | pipeline | carbon60: Here's something to try: Check to see if the BIOS has a "pnp OS" option and tell it /no/. This will write-protect the ESCD cache so that linux can't screw up your IRQs... |
| 17:31.37 | pipeline | holden: Oh, definitely. |
| 17:31.42 | disposable | holden, no |
| 17:31.47 | linuxshop | im trying to get the user part working but i have no idea how? |
| 17:31.47 | carbon60 | pipeline: Ok, I'll try that. Gimme 10. |
| 17:31.52 | holden | disposable: ? |
| 17:31.56 | carbon60 | pipeline: Thanks for your help, much appreciated. |
| 17:32.06 | pipeline | carbon60: It's by no means a sure thing, but it's a common fix. |
| 17:32.22 | lepton | linuxshop: you want local delivery to work? you want pop users without a shell login? or ? |
| 17:32.23 | disposable | holden, testing is testing. nothing more. can be stable, can be rendered useless. |
| 17:32.39 | pipeline | carbon60: Another thing to try is cat /proc/interrupts to see if interrupts are being routed totally wrong. Yet another thing to try is disabling ACPI with "acpi=off" on the kernel arguments... |
| 17:32.58 | pipeline | carbon60: If you have ACPI enabled, the ESCD cache thing may not batter because the kernel may ignore it entirely after it boots. |
| 17:33.02 | holden | pipeline: do i need tgo worry about X breaking because i'll be uprgading frmo XFree to XOrg? or is that transition pretty much worked out already? |
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| 17:33.22 | linuxshop | local network |
| 17:33.45 | ree | hi pipeline, maybe you have an idea on why a recent sid upgrade can cause the system eat up cpu? Some reports about that? |
| 17:33.47 | lepton | linuxshop: have you looked at the life with qmail web page? |
| 17:33.48 | pipeline | holden: If it's a laptop, you could conceivably need to worry about that. Otherwise, no, it should "just work." XOrg should ignore your XF86 configuration. If you're worried about it, purge the xserver-xfree86 package before upgrading. (dpkg --purge xserver-xfree86) |
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| 17:34.00 | linuxshop | yes and got lost after a certain point |
| 17:34.02 | disposable | holden, if you're not using ati you should be safe going to xorg |
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| 17:34.23 | pipeline | ree: I have no bloody idea or I'd have answered when I first saw your question. |
| 17:34.29 | lepton | linuxshop: I still don't know what you're trying to do. have you tested local delivery? |
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| 17:34.45 | carbon60 | pipeline: No such option in the BIOS. |
| 17:34.48 | linuxshop | im trying to set up a email server |
| 17:34.50 | carbon60 | I'll try your other suggestions. |
| 17:34.53 | linuxshop | mail server |
| 17:34.54 | metellius | is it even possible to use the fglrx driver on the xorg 6.9 backport? it is very critical that this is possible, if not I might need to revert to an older xorg |
| 17:34.55 | pipeline | carbon60: Well, that's one failed tree barked up :\ |
| 17:34.57 | linuxshop | using qmail?! |
| 17:35.09 | pipeline | carbon60: tip: "ERR" and "MIS" interrupts are a *BAD THING* that indicate potentially serious hardware issues. |
| 17:35.10 | vin` | disposable: used native DRI for ati IGP340 with xorg for over a year. |
| 17:35.14 | holden | pipeline, disposable: it's a dell laptop, with an intel video chipset |
| 17:35.17 | lepton | linuxshop: so what is the specific problem? |
| 17:35.33 | carbon60 | pipeline: It's a DP PII450, BTW. |
| 17:35.34 | pipeline | carbon60: The reason I asked whether you had put in the e100 card yourself is that it might have been put into a non-busmaster slot and require bus-mastering. |
| 17:35.35 | linuxshop | i dont knwo hwo to add aliase and adding email addresses |
| 17:35.56 | ree | pipeline: thanks a lot, I addressed to you because you are so helpful - no offense please |
| 17:35.58 | pipeline | carbon60: Uhoh. If it's that old, it should have an ESCD cache option in the BIOS (e.g. "PNP OS" or "PNP support in OS") ... |
| 17:36.06 | vin` | holden: probably i810, works fine with xorg 6.9 |
| 17:36.21 | pipeline | holden: Crap. Xorg was broken on my i830 laptop; I actually use the old XF86 package on my sid laptop... |
| 17:36.22 | disposable | holden, i had a problem with hp with i915 chipset. i had to go back to xfree. |
| 17:36.33 | pipeline | vin`: Xorg has badly broken i810 mobile support. |
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| 17:36.51 | lepton | linuxshop: oh. read 'man dot-qmail' for starters |
| 17:37.01 | pipeline | holden: try echoing a "hold" on the xserver-xfree86 package before upgrading, just to be safe |
| 17:37.03 | vin` | pipeline: not with this, 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 17:37.13 | disposable | holden, i hate to admit it, but ubuntu has a much better support for intel video |
| 17:37.15 | pipeline | vin`: That's one among many intel graphics chipsets. |
| 17:37.28 | pipeline | vin`: They all use the i810 driver, but only some of them are broken under Xorg 6.7/6.8/6.9 |
| 17:37.31 | holden | pipeline, disposable: grrrr. i knew that the chispet i had would be the one that's problematic |
| 17:37.50 | lepton | linuxshop: and read the qmail-howto at flounder.net |
| 17:37.55 | disposable | holden, sorry :) |
| 17:37.57 | pipeline | holden: Heh. If it's a pretty new chipset, you may be fine. All I know is that I had problems with an original i810 and with two i830s. |
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| 17:38.02 | carbon60 | pipeline: Going to try acpi=no now. |
| 17:38.08 | pipeline | carbon60: acpi=off, IIRC |
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| 17:38.14 | carbon60 | k |
| 17:38.21 | abrotman | my 830 works fine |
| 17:38.22 | disposable | pipeline, the same thing with i915 |
| 17:38.27 | holden | pipeline, disposable, vin`: any ideas where i can look up whether Xorgs i810 will work with my particular chipset? |
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| 17:38.34 | pipeline | carbon60: Another thing to try: nolapic, noapic. (Although those may leave you with no SMP, at least it would lead you closer to getting things working...) |
| 17:38.50 | abrotman | holden: which do you have .. lspci | grep -i vga |
| 17:38.52 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.54 | pipeline | holden: Heh, for me, it *worked*, but switching modes made it hardlock the hardware. |
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| 17:39.04 | kergoth | can someone explain how 0.3.1-1 is less than 0.2.13? |
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| 17:39.05 | pipeline | holden: i.e. once I had started X, I couldn't switch out of X or kill X without killing the system. |
| 17:39.22 | holden | pipeline, disposable, vin`: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 17:39.29 | linuxshop | man dot-qmail doesnt work |
| 17:39.32 | abrotman | wtf is that? |
| 17:39.33 | holden | pipeline, disposable, vin`: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
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| 17:39.37 | holden | pipeline, disposable, vin`: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 17:39.45 | disposable | holden, current etch Xorg does NOT work with i915. tested yesterday |
| 17:39.47 | abrotman | we saw .. three times :) |
| 17:39.47 | GutterPunk | Hello |
| 17:40.02 | pipeline | holden: Just hold the xserver-xfree86 package (i.e. do not allow it to upgrade) |
| 17:40.03 | GutterPunk | Does slapd and ldap-utils have support for SSL in debian etch? |
| 17:40.06 | holden | abrotman: sorry. key got stuck |
| 17:40.07 | pipeline | holden: Surprisingly, it actually work.s |
| 17:40.10 | lepton | linuxshop: did you install from source? |
| 17:40.13 | GutterPunk | Or in sarge maybe already? |
| 17:40.14 | linuxshop | yea |
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| 17:40.16 | abrotman | disposable: i think it depends on the exact model |
| 17:40.20 | abrotman | holden: which key? :) |
| 17:40.29 | pipeline | GutterPunk: I think it still doesn't, because OpenSSL is officially obsoleted, but no one has ported modern versions of slapd to use GNUTLS. |
| 17:40.36 | abrotman | holden: i have an 830(not that exact one) but it does work |
| 17:40.38 | linuxshop | i followed all the instructions untill configure but i think i messed up in the alias part |
| 17:40.42 | holden | abrotman: page up, so i could not see the message posting |
| 17:40.44 | linuxshop | and so forth |
| 17:40.47 | pipeline | GutterPunk: If slapd has SSL support in sarge, it'll be a really old version of slapd due to the OpenSSL versus GNUTLS isssue. |
| 17:40.47 | vin` | pipeline: however it's busted with 7.0 here, check #361689 |
| 17:40.50 | lepton | linuxshop: btw google can find the man page in about 0.5 seconds ... |
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| 17:40.59 | pipeline | vin`: The Xorg i810 tree is a mess :\ |
| 17:41.12 | abrotman | let's blame gravity! |
| 17:41.14 | holden | < pipeline> holden: Surprisingly, it actually work.s |
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| 17:41.20 | disposable | abrotman, i googled around and that doesn't seem to be the case |
| 17:41.25 | holden | pipeline: did you mean my chipset? or holding Xfree? |
| 17:41.29 | GutterPunk | pipeline, so I have to recompile it myself? with tls support then? |
| 17:41.30 | pipeline | holden: Holding xfree. |
| 17:41.46 | pipeline | GutterPunk: I don't know what to tell you to do. I have no helpful advice on the subject. *shrug* |
| 17:41.54 | lepton | abrotman: gravity is just a theory. learn about Intelligent Falling. |
| 17:41.59 | GutterPunk | pipeline, thanks anyway :) |
| 17:42.02 | disposable | holden, just create a partition where you can test it. give it a go. if it works, upgrade.. |
| 17:42.02 | pipeline | holden: I have the sarge XFree86 package installed on *sid*. |
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| 17:42.15 | linuxshop | found it |
| 17:42.15 | kergoth | sigh. cant install apache2 or gnupg in unstable |
| 17:42.33 | abrotman | disposable: i'd find it hard to believe that all 915s are broken .. why would it even release then? |
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| 17:42.42 | pipeline | abrotman: Because the Xorg people don't give a shit about regressions. |
| 17:42.49 | holden | pipeline: i just hold the package xserver-xfree86? do i need to hold any other? |
| 17:43.00 | metellius | is there a 6.8 version of xorg available from backports? how do I install it? |
| 17:43.10 | pipeline | abrotman: Remember, this project was explicitly created because they were pissed at XF86's glacial progress |
| 17:43.27 | pipeline | holden: Remember, you have to use *dpkg* to issue the hold. Synaptic "holds" only apply to synaptic. |
| 17:43.34 | kergoth | ahh that explains it, libtasn1-2 conflicts with versions of libgnutls12 << 1.3.5, yet 1.3.5 isnt available |
| 17:43.35 | pipeline | holden: google for "dpkg --set-selections" and holding. |
| 17:43.36 | disposable | abrotman, i'm not saying all, but various ppl with different laptops had the same problem. (works fine with buntu xorg though) |
| 17:43.37 | abrotman | pipeline: glacial progress is not the same as abandoning a chip taht is two years old |
| 17:43.38 | kergoth | wonderful. |
| 17:43.41 | kergoth | the joys of following unstable |
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| 17:43.52 | kijjaz | question: how do i install firefox (firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz) on debian? i extracted it and don't know what to do with all those things in the 'firefox' folder. |
| 17:43.55 | pipeline | abrotman: Two years old? It's still being manufactured and sold! |
| 17:44.09 | abrotman | pipeline: i meant first deeveloped two years ago |
| 17:44.11 | Shadowcat | kijjaz: why do you need firefox 1.5? |
| 17:44.11 | vin` | abrotman: tried it the day before from experimental, couldn't start X, will try it yet again from unstable soon. (#361689) |
| 17:44.13 | abrotman | or sold .. whatever |
| 17:44.14 | lepton | kijjaz: just run it in place |
| 17:44.18 | pipeline | abrotman: At any rate, the Xorg project is pretty screwed up. Ah well. We've gotten some good things out of it. (autotools-enabled X? mmmm) |
| 17:44.20 | holden | pipeline, disposable, vin`, abrotman: thanks. you've been very helpful. i think i will upgrade to ETCH and hold Xfree86 |
| 17:44.25 | abrotman | !dbugs 361689 |
| 17:44.26 | ice_1963 | what do i need to install to get my printer to work whit text base browser like lynx? |
| 17:44.29 | dpkg | #361689:I[xserver-xorg] I810: Failed to load module "ddc" (module does not exist, 0); Sun, 9 Apr 2006 17:48:02 UTC |
| 17:44.36 | kijjaz | Shadow: to try out : P |
| 17:44.43 | abrotman | vin`: manually loading it has no effect? |
| 17:44.52 | pipeline | ice_1963: lynx printing is pretty weird. I don't think it's technically supported. Try installing the cupsys-bsd package and using links instead. |
| 17:44.53 | Shadowcat | kijjaz: then read the install instructions that came with the tarball |
| 17:44.54 | senkzer0 | I need help |
| 17:44.55 | kijjaz | lepton: you mean.. just run them? hmm... |
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| 17:45.00 | abrotman | holden: you could just do the upgrade .. i said .. my 830 works just peachy |
| 17:45.05 | pipeline | ice_1963: At any rate, you'll definitely need cupsys-bsd to provide a compatible "lpr" command |
| 17:45.12 | abrotman | pipeline: modular X is a big deal :) |
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| 17:45.17 | vin` | abrotman: manually load it how? |
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| 17:45.23 | disposable | senkzer0, the one sentence you shouldn't say here... |
| 17:45.25 | pipeline | abrotman: Yes, yes it is. It frees us of much bullshittery. |
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| 17:45.31 | lepton | kijjaz: there are some wrapper scripts in there (last time I looked at such a thing) |
| 17:45.35 | senkzer0 | i'm sorry disposable |
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| 17:45.54 | abrotman | vin`: explicitly load the dcc module in your xorg conf file |
| 17:46.01 | senkzer0 | i need some time to make my question (my english is very bad) |
| 17:46.15 | vin` | abrotman: it's already there, tried commenting it and still got that error. |
| 17:46.19 | abrotman | vin`: let me actually read the bug :) |
| 17:46.25 | Ronin | senkzer0: there likely is a #debian in your native language |
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| 17:46.33 | kijjaz | Shadowcat: there is no installation instruction there, but there's a readme. readme says i should look at online release note, then the release says .. |
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| 17:46.35 | DAVICO | alguien que hable ingles por favor |
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| 17:46.45 | DAVICO | o hay otro canal para este uso de espańol para soporte? |
| 17:46.45 | lepton | kijjaz: cd /path/to/dir; ./firefox |
| 17:46.50 | Claiborne | ? |
| 17:46.50 | Ronin | !es |
| 17:46.50 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:46.51 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.52 | abrotman | vin`: is that your X log ? |
| 17:46.55 | carbon60 | Hrm. acpi=off didn't help. |
| 17:46.57 | vin` | abrotman: yes |
| 17:47.05 | abrotman | vin`: where's the rest of it? |
| 17:47.05 | kijjaz | lepton: i've done that.. eh i should try another way .. hmm |
| 17:47.11 | senkzer0 | people in my native channel is too busy for attending me ÂŹÂŹ so i've had to join here |
| 17:47.12 | kspath | !tell DAVICO about es |
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| 17:47.15 | carbon60 | I wonder if the card is bad. The kernel sees it and prints out the info when the driver loads and it has link. |
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| 17:47.25 | vin` | abrotman: that's all of it. |
| 17:47.32 | carbon60 | pipeline: Nothing bad in /proc/interrupts, either. |
| 17:47.34 | roxy_ | senkzer0: what language do you speak ? |
| 17:47.37 | kijjaz | lepton: that didn't get firefox run coz linux says it can't find the library (that's in the firefox dir) |
| 17:47.38 | senkzer0 | spanish |
| 17:47.57 | abrotman | vin`: so manually loading ddc does nothing ? |
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| 17:48.01 | disposable | senkzer0, when will you finally ask the question? |
| 17:48.29 | vin` | abrotman: it is explicitly being loaded manually in the xorg.conf even in 6.9 |
| 17:48.35 | DAVICO | thanks |
| 17:48.35 | pipeline | carbon60: Well crap. You've tried dicking with noapic, nolapic, acpi=off and various combinations thereof? I guess the next step is to change what slot the card is in :\ |
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| 17:48.42 | senkzer0 | wait a moment plz, its very hard to speak about informatic when you don't know the vocabulary |
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| 17:48.48 | abrotman | vin`: does libddc.so actually exist ? |
| 17:48.51 | carbon60 | pipeline: Also, this machine waas a fully functional Windows 2000 server until yesterday. All I did was install a second CPU. :-( |
| 17:48.52 | senkzer0 | so, i've 2 sound cards in the computer |
| 17:48.53 | holden | pipeline: so holding by pinning in /etc/apt/preferences will not work? |
| 17:48.56 | abrotman | !es |
| 17:48.56 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:49.02 | metellius | is it actually IMPOSSIBLE to have install x.org 6.8 on debian? I can only find 6.9 wherever I look, and i'm starting to panic |
| 17:49.13 | abrotman | metellius: /msg dpkg sdn |
| 17:49.22 | kijjaz | hmm.. i still can't get this package of firefox installed .. i'll go ask at #firefox too ^^ cheers. |
| 17:49.28 | abrotman | metellius: why doesn't 6.9 work? |
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| 17:49.37 | Shadowcat | metellius: why do you need 6.8? |
| 17:49.39 | vin` | abrotman: read the log, it did get loaded. |
| 17:49.56 | senkzer0 | one of them is a ac97 card and the other is a sound blaster 5.1. Debian knows all my cards but take the ac97 as the default card and don't let me to select the sound blaster as default in the multimedia sistems selector |
| 17:49.58 | Shadowcat | vin`: I'm reading the bug report right now |
| 17:50.01 | Shadowcat | damn that's a nasty bug |
| 17:50.09 | abrotman | vin`: i keep seeing "I810: Failed to load module "ddc" (module does not exist, 0)" |
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| 17:50.18 | Shadowcat | senkzer0: so blacklist the ac'97 module |
| 17:50.18 | senkzer0 | do you understand me?, sorry if not but i said my english was very bad |
| 17:50.20 | Shadowcat | that's what I do |
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| 17:50.37 | pipeline | senkzer0: You make sense, but I can't think of how to fix it. |
| 17:50.42 | kspath | senkzer0: Is disabling the onboard sound an option in BIOS that you would want to look for or consider? |
| 17:50.42 | abrotman | senkzer0: perhaps #debian-es would be better? |
| 17:50.46 | senkzer0 | that's a posibility, but i want to use the 2 cards |
| 17:50.47 | Shadowcat | you're useless |
| 17:50.47 | metellius | because I'm going to be doing a programming with shaders tomorrow, and only the fglrx driver has that. i haven't found any way to install the fglrx on xorg 6.9 |
| 17:50.59 | anabain | does anybody know why when doing this: # tar --same-owner -zcvpf home.tgz /home permissions in some files in the tar file are changed to root? |
| 17:51.06 | abrotman | use the modutils stuff to load the sb drivers before ac97 |
| 17:51.07 | kspath | senkzer0: It is a separate card? Have you considered removing it? |
| 17:51.24 | abrotman | metellius: what video card is it ? |
| 17:51.25 | Shadowcat | ac97 is onboard sound |
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| 17:51.31 | Shadowcat | there's no way of physically removing that |
| 17:51.32 | abrotman | Shadowcat: remove it! |
| 17:51.44 | _ThePiratemaster | how do i restart inetd? |
| 17:51.47 | kspath | senkzer0: Is disabling the onboard sound an option in BIOS that you would want to look for or consider? |
| 17:51.51 | senkzer0 | i can't remove it because i want to use it |
| 17:51.52 | senkzer0 | Xd |
| 17:51.54 | abrotman | kill -1 `pidof inetd` |
| 17:51.57 | Shadowcat | sigh |
| 17:52.00 | roxy_ | senkzer0: why do you say debian is using it as default ? |
| 17:52.16 | Shadowcat | hmm |
| 17:52.21 | Shadowcat | what's a good sci-fi movie? |
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| 17:52.31 | kspath | Shadowcat: BladeRunnder |
| 17:52.34 | kspath | Shadowcat: BladeRunner |
| 17:52.35 | senkzer0 | because sistem sounds are being played by ac97 |
| 17:52.42 | abrotman | Shadowcat: Brainstorm |
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| 17:52.46 | metellius | abrotman: ati radeon 9700 |
| 17:52.50 | nixie | wow. "load average: 249.79, 253.76, 254.73". new record for me |
| 17:53.02 | thingfish | 2001: A Space Odyssey |
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| 17:53.07 | thingfish | my all time favorite |
| 17:53.09 | abrotman | metellius: and there's no 6.9 driver? |
| 17:53.11 | senkzer0 | and when i join into gstreamer-properties |
| 17:53.19 | abrotman | shouldn't the 7.0 driver work for 6.9 ? |
| 17:53.19 | disposable | _ThePiratemaster, "kill -9 $(pidof inetd)" |
| 17:53.21 | kspath | thingfish abrotman I liked those very much also |
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| 17:53.29 | roxy_ | senkzer0: system sound mean bit, you are not mistaking with sound from kde or gnome ? |
| 17:53.31 | nixie | what can I do to figure out what process is eating CPU if ps doesn't start? |
| 17:53.41 | nixie | e.g. ps takes ages to show output. maybe nice --19 ps? |
| 17:53.47 | _ThePiratemaster | disposable, how do i figure out the pid? |
| 17:53.53 | abrotman | metellius: oh .. i see |
| 17:53.57 | kspath | nixie: top ? htop? |
| 17:54.05 | nixie | same deal with top |
| 17:54.06 | disposable | _ThePiratemaster, just type what it |
| 17:54.10 | abrotman | _ThePiratemaster kill -1 `pidof inetd` |
| 17:54.11 | disposable | _ThePiratemaster, just type it |
| 17:54.12 | senkzer0 | sorry, yes, i'm using gnome, and i want to configure the sound in gnome |
| 17:54.17 | jbrouhard | in the debian net install CD.. is this command possible: linux acpi=off noapic |
| 17:54.32 | abrotman | jbrouhard: should be |
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| 17:54.33 | kspath | nixie: Well you can have it dump to a file |
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| 17:54.37 | R078902 | hello |
| 17:54.37 | jbrouhard | Ok |
| 17:54.38 | _ThePiratemaster | wow, pidof is a commanbd? |
| 17:54.45 | R078902 | how to check kernel version? |
| 17:54.46 | abrotman | yes .. imagine that |
| 17:54.52 | disposable | :) |
| 17:54.55 | abrotman | R078902: uname -a .. or cat /proc/version |
| 17:54.55 | _ThePiratemaster | dream come truew |
| 17:54.56 | Eclipser | mh |
| 17:54.57 | _ThePiratemaster | tnx |
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| 17:55.35 | Eclipser | debian apache2 seems to set .cc/.h/.sh mime types to something else than text/plain, where can I change them? I can't seem to find anything for it... |
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| 17:55.44 | roxy_ | senkzer0: so the sound card is ok and you want gnome to use the sound blaster and not the ac97 ? |
| 17:56.08 | nixie | nice --19 ps axuw is taking 5 minutes already now. bad, bad process! |
| 17:56.10 | kspath | nixie: Does it repeat? I think you will want a listing from ps and top written to files for your records to look into deeper later |
| 17:56.19 | senkzer0 | yes |
| 17:56.33 | Eclipser | /etc/apache2/magic seems to have something like that but it implies text/plain MIME type... |
| 17:56.45 | metellius | hmm I cannot believe i actually have the problem of packages being too new. the snapshot site is also somewhat confusing as it lumps all packages together and doesn't tell me which ones are actually safe :s |
| 17:56.56 | _ThePiratemaster | lol, how do i start it up again :P? |
| 17:57.08 | kspath | nixie: My experience was with servers starved for a resource like NS or remote storage or other remote service most often. |
| 17:57.19 | abrotman | _ThePiratemaster: did you use kill -1 ? |
| 17:57.35 | abrotman | metellius: get the most recent 6.8 packages |
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| 17:58.13 | _ThePiratemaster | abrotman,. yea |
| 17:58.14 | nixie | kspath: this server doesnt have any of that. its apache, php, mysql. i suspect a hack but no ps and no top output makes it really hard to determine |
| 17:58.18 | kspath | nixie: Other major thing that happens is even little processes eat up at least 1-3 MB memory which does not sound like a lot but imagine 1,000 such processes. SWAP will kill a machines performance. |
| 17:58.23 | abrotman | _ThePiratemaster: then it's still there .. -1 is SIGHUP |
| 17:58.34 | Eclipser | anyone? |
| 17:58.40 | kspath | nixie: dump ps and top output to files. |
| 17:58.55 | nixie | with > ? how's that faster than showing on console? |
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| 17:59.06 | _ThePiratemaster | oh i want to restart it caz i changed the config, how do i do that |
| 17:59.10 | senkzer0 | ok, know i understand my own problem |
| 17:59.12 | abrotman | we told you how |
| 17:59.23 | senkzer0 | alsamixer knows all my cards |
| 17:59.25 | abrotman | _ThePiratemaster: kill -1 is exactly the correct way |
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| 17:59.47 | kspath | nixie: not a matter of faster. A matter of telling the machine to dump to files and having the data to look at at your leisure now and later |
| 17:59.53 | _ThePiratemaster | -1 = restart |
| 18:00.07 | senkzer0 | but i want to know how can i select sb live 5.1 in gstreamer-properties |
| 18:00.18 | nixie | k well ill try to dump it and then give it half an hour to process |
| 18:00.28 | kspath | nixie: could your mysql be refusing 1 or more users and causing apache/php to hang processes waiting for timeout? |
| 18:00.32 | nixie | but i can't even ssh in on my other terminal anymore |
| 18:00.53 | _ThePiratemaster | so i can conclude that -1 = restart= SIGHUP |
| 18:00.56 | nixie | kspath: not likely, i really suspect some hack code running |
| 18:01.00 | _ThePiratemaster | right |
| 18:01.01 | _ThePiratemaster | ? |
| 18:01.22 | abrotman | for certain things .. yes |
| 18:01.26 | senkzer0 | when i load gstreamer properties i have 3 options to choose, autodetect, ALSA and custom |
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| 18:01.40 | senkzer0 | so when i push test, i get an error |
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| 18:02.00 | nixie | kspath: my snmp monitoring data stopped 2 hours ago, so snmp hasn't got any cpu time since |
| 18:02.04 | kspath | nixie: I normally had my machines with watchers for resources and page me before the manure hits the fan. |
| 18:02.18 | nixie | kspath: ye well this is a low-cost customer box:) |
| 18:02.35 | kspath | nixie: good luck. |
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| 18:02.48 | loggygreg_ | _ThePiratemaster: man inetd => Inetd rereads its configuration file when it receives a hangup signal, SIGHUP. |
| 18:02.49 | nixie | hehe. thank god for backups :) |
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| 18:03.24 | kspath | nixie: You must be in tight with the powers that be to have god doing your backups. |
| 18:03.41 | nixie | well thank amanda then. :) |
| 18:04.13 | carbon60 | pipeline: Here is something fun: I tried to load the eepro100 module instead of the e100, segfault. |
| 18:04.21 | carbon60 | I think I'm going to try another card. |
| 18:04.24 | nixie | ah. got half a page of ps output now. ofcourse nothing useful |
| 18:04.25 | carbon60 | if i can find one⌠|
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| 18:05.37 | linuxshop | found it |
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| 18:05.55 | linuxshop | does anyone have any idea on how to mirror a debian linux drive? |
| 18:06.01 | lepton | linuxshop: yes |
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| 18:06.13 | s0n1 | hi somone here use squidclam ??????? |
| 18:06.16 | lepton | linuxshop: I use rsync |
| 18:06.25 | linuxshop | rsync |
| 18:06.49 | lepton | right ... |
| 18:06.54 | anabain | why when doing this: # tar --same-owner -zcvpf home.tgz /home permissions in some files in the tar file are changed to root? |
| 18:07.05 | werw | Hi! How can I monitor net activity without ettercap (TCPDUMP+grep?) any useful script? |
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| 18:07.40 | linuxshop | rsync lets u send files between linux computers |
| 18:08.32 | linuxshop | rsync is a program that allows files to be copied to and from remote machines in much the same way as rcp. It has many more options than rcp, and uses the rsync remote-update protocol to greatly speed up file transfers when the destination file already exists. |
| 18:08.32 | linuxshop | The rsync remote-update protocol allows rsync to transfer just the differences between two sets of files across the network link |
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| 18:10.19 | nixie | bah. nothing in remote syslogs either, except sendmail complaining about increasing load and the kernel killing processes |
| 18:10.25 | lepton | linuxshop: having fun with your mouse? |
| 18:10.49 | linuxshop | ? |
| 18:11.01 | linuxshop | what u mean |
| 18:11.08 | citral | !u |
| 18:11.08 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:11.20 | lepton | why are you posting the stuff about rsync? |
| 18:11.37 | linuxshop | sorry |
| 18:12.02 | linuxshop | si there a program that lets me mirror my computer, localy, no networking required |
| 18:12.44 | kspath | nixie: Perhaps a punk is using your Apache/PHP crap to get that sendmail to send 10's of thousands of spams |
| 18:12.47 | pipeline | linuxshop: Use gnu tar with the "-l" switch. |
| 18:13.08 | nixie | kspath: it is apache alright. so thats probably it |
| 18:13.25 | linuxshop | dont want to sound stupid but do what? |
| 18:13.33 | kspath | nixie: Look in your sendmail queues and logs |
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| 18:15.00 | is_null | hello, how is it possible to change window manager please ? i am using xfce4 on xorg, tryed to uninstall xfce4 and install enligthenment and restart server x, it's not working |
| 18:15.02 | kspath | maybe someday someone will find me useful enough to pay me to help them in a office somewhere... I doubt it though. |
| 18:15.18 | nixie | kspath: i'd hire you. |
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| 18:16.42 | kspath | nixie: Funny thing is I have myself on dice and careerbuilder and monster and barely even get calls. It seems everyone assumes they can handle whatever without experience sysadmins. |
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| 18:17.35 | loggygreg | is_null: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 18:17.39 | nixie | kspath: i'm on none of those. but i know enough people that need help. they even find us through google. |
| 18:17.52 | is_null | thank you loggygreg |
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| 18:18.23 | angela | how do you best debug locales? |
| 18:18.33 | kspath | nixie: maybe I need to make myself an independent consultant. |
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| 18:18.57 | quiet | can anyone help me remove this 2.6 kernel... none of the names i try work: http://pastebin.com/653971 |
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| 18:19.22 | Spanishguy30 | how can i install KDE from console? |
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| 18:19.53 | quiet | Spanishguy30, apt-get install kde |
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| 18:20.29 | yang | when I try to apt-get update from 3 machines on my network at the same time, i get connection time-out on some boxes, is that usual? |
| 18:20.32 | Spanishguy30 | quiet, because i made something wrong in the first installation.... |
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| 18:20.42 | elephantMan | HI all |
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| 18:20.52 | elephantMan | How can i sync a WM5 pocket PC on linux ? |
| 18:20.57 | quiet | Spanishguy30, you mean you didn't select "Desktop Environment" from tasksel? |
| 18:20.58 | elephantMan | Is there a way ? |
| 18:21.04 | quiet | Spanishguy30, so what, install kde. |
| 18:21.10 | Spanishguy30 | i couldnt do it |
| 18:21.16 | quiet | Spanishguy30, ? |
| 18:21.27 | Spanishguy30 | i could select anything because i have no clue how to select it |
| 18:21.35 | quiet | Spanishguy30, [spacebar] |
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| 18:21.50 | woodland | hey i need some help. if i want to check the version of already installed software how do i do that |
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| 18:22.04 | quiet | woodland, dpkg -l | grep <software name> |
| 18:22.20 | woodland | quiet: thanks man |
| 18:22.20 | quiet | woodland, i.e. - dpkg -l | grep gaim |
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| 18:22.52 | Spanishguy30 | ok, quiet, but can i install just kde from DVD with this command? or need to install all again? |
| 18:23.01 | woodland | quiet: how do i copy this command u have written here. |
| 18:23.04 | nixie | well, now that I know it was apache, which of the two dozen sites to choose from... hrm |
| 18:23.30 | quiet | woodland just type it... |
| 18:23.41 | quiet | Spanishguy30, just install it over the internet |
| 18:23.52 | Spanishguy30 | well i have no broadband connection... |
| 18:23.54 | woodland | quiet: is there no way to copy and paste |
| 18:23.55 | Spanishguy30 | only 56 modem |
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| 18:24.02 | quiet | woodland, in console mode? |
| 18:24.11 | quiet | highlight the text, use middle mouse button to paste |
| 18:24.16 | quiet | i think? |
| 18:24.26 | quiet | maybe that's an xterm thing though |
| 18:24.41 | paolob | Hi guys! In my testin there is gnome-volume-manager installed (I use gnome), but cd's aren't mounted automatically. Any hint? |
| 18:24.54 | woodland | quiet: i mean here, how do i copy text after highlighting |
| 18:24.57 | nixie | hm. i believe I will have to sell a separate mysql server to this client :) |
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| 18:25.10 | quiet | woodland, that depends on what terminal/irc client you are using |
| 18:25.20 | kspath | nixie: sorry I was away you found the problem? |
| 18:25.46 | nixie | kspath: it seems mysql crashed somewhere. then what you said happened, apache not being able to connect on a high traffic php-based site |
| 18:26.13 | nixie | kspath: effectively filling up process queues |
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| 18:26.43 | kspath | nixie: If it ever happens again you will know to watch for it. experiencing the icky stuff helps for future prevention and detection |
| 18:27.20 | kspath | nixie: Your snmp did not have local watchers for sendmail and apache and mysqld? |
| 18:27.53 | kspath | nixie: consider also adding NS and memory/swap and diskutil watchers |
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| 18:28.21 | initard | i dont get it, I have my iso image mounted and i have the mount point listed in source.list but apt-get still isnt doing anything. |
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| 18:28.41 | kspath | nixie: Those local watchers can log to syslog also for records at least that is what I used to do most often. |
| 18:29.07 | initard | i dont get it, I have my iso image mounted and i have the mount point listed in source.list but apt-get still isnt doing anything... i updated too by the way, it's just not gettin anything |
| 18:29.25 | nixie | kspath: i'm running them, but theres no bells going off if it goes mayhem. syslog-ng goes to a separate box which also runs snmp monitoring. but what do you mean by NS watchers? |
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| 18:30.02 | angryadmin | paolob: i do believe you have to be in the hald group or some such |
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| 18:30.08 | kspath | nixie: do a NS query of a command type and if it fails log that. |
| 18:30.16 | kspath | nixie: common type |
| 18:30.45 | kspath | nixie: NS is a resource that can have a huge impact on a great many services |
| 18:30.47 | nixie | ah nameserver. i see |
| 18:31.21 | kspath | NameServer NameService DNS, BIND, MaraDNS, PowerDNS, MyDNS, ... |
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| 18:31.27 | nixie | :) |
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| 18:31.48 | nixie | well, gonna reboot the box and watch it for a bit. thanks:) |
| 18:32.25 | kspath | nixie: I would then have your remote syslog server watch for keywords that have a significant impact and page on those that you think are important enough |
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| 18:33.10 | Wulf4 | moin |
| 18:33.28 | initard | Exuse the lame newber question, but if i just dpkg -i package.deb will it look for and install required dependencies? |
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| 18:33.42 | kspath | nixie: make sure it throttles or groups pages else you can get put into pager hell quite easily |
| 18:33.49 | Wulf4 | how stable is debian/sarge for amd64? what about programs like bind9 and apache(1 or 2)? |
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| 18:34.42 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- I wrote some files to a DVD the other day -- and since I wrote them, I haven't been able to view them -- any idea how to view them? |
| 18:34.54 | SexyKen | I thought you could write data to dvd discs? |
| 18:35.06 | acron0248 | hello again, I'm still looking for some advise about apt-build.list |
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| 18:35.34 | acron0248 | I'd search google but doesn't help much |
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| 18:36.39 | initard | obiously theres no help for newbies here |
| 18:36.42 | initard | kick rocks new users, your not in the club. |
| 18:36.58 | thingfish | initard: no, that won't work |
| 18:37.04 | shogunx | initard i think I helped YOU last night. |
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| 18:37.20 | initard | heh, i was only joking |
| 18:37.21 | thingfish | yeah and if you act like a spoiled baby you won't get any more help. |
| 18:37.23 | shogunx | although perhpas i will not in the future. |
| 18:37.39 | acron0248 | all that I need is to know what is to know what packages remove |
| 18:37.55 | kspath | maybe I should change my nick to anytard |
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| 18:38.37 | acron0248 | I searched but all that I looked just say libc6, gcc, but I have a long list.....is there others packages should I remove? |
| 18:38.43 | initard | its not my fault i asked five questions in the past hour and got no reply and just cuz i see twenty or thirty other newbie questions get ignored, i cant make a mild crack? truth hurts sometimes, relax |
| 18:38.44 | thingfish | anyway, initard, if you need to install something, better to do it via apt-get or synaptic. |
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| 18:39.06 | mxb | Sorry to add to the recent flurry of questions, but I have a problem with upgrading my kernel from 2.6.8-2 to -3. When doing so I have a passphrase prompt when I mount the root fs. I think this is due to cryptsetup (I have an encrypted partition) Is there a way to avoid this (blank) prompt for root fs? |
| 18:39.07 | initard | ok, thanks thingfish |
| 18:39.13 | shogunx | acron0248 if you remove libc6 you are going to have some real priblems. |
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| 18:39.21 | acron0248 | no no...... |
| 18:39.34 | acron0248 | I mean, remove gcc from apt-build.list |
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| 18:39.55 | shogunx | acron0248 in order to accomplish... ? |
| 18:40.09 | acron0248 | to use apt-build world command |
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| 18:41.00 | initard | apt-get's gettin on my nerves, i have an iso mounted and i can read all the packages but i can apt-get them. |
| 18:41.25 | stew | initard: use apt-cdrom |
| 18:41.27 | initard | if i read over man apt-get much longer i'll have it memorized |
| 18:41.39 | initard | i'll try that |
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| 18:41.47 | stew | initard: or apt-move |
| 18:41.50 | thingfish | initard: perhaps you should just tell us what you're trying to get installed. let's start there. |
| 18:41.59 | initard | x |
| 18:42.07 | initard | gui |
| 18:42.09 | kspath | Xorg? |
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| 18:42.11 | Norbert_ | with alsa, is there a way to boost the microphone volume by 1000dB (or 1 million)? |
| 18:42.11 | thingfish | initard: what debian version are you using? |
| 18:42.19 | shogunx | initard and you will have to recite it 5 times, as well as 5 hail marys as penance:) |
| 18:42.24 | thingfish | hehe |
| 18:42.32 | initard | whatever was currnt yesterday when i downloaded the iso |
| 18:42.49 | thingfish | initard: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:42.55 | initard | sarge 3.1r1 i think |
| 18:42.58 | thingfish | ok |
| 18:43.14 | acron0248 | so, reading, I find some stuff about using the apt-build world command, but still have some doubts about it |
| 18:43.16 | thingfish | initard: and how did you install it? Using CD set, or netinstall? |
| 18:43.22 | loca|host | hello all, i've forgotten the filename we use to put the scripts that will be executed at startup (no services),ca you help me please ? |
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| 18:43.57 | initard | thingfish, i downloaded the first two iso's and booted them from a seperate partition... |
| 18:44.00 | shogunx | loca|host before runlevel 2? |
| 18:44.14 | thingfish | initard: why didn't you burn them to disk? |
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| 18:44.53 | initard | cuz why should i go waste money on a cd burner to put in this old 366 laptop |
| 18:44.58 | loca|host | shogunx, dont know when, i used it to probe a module at startup |
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| 18:45.04 | thingfish | ah, I see, good point. |
| 18:45.05 | SDr | hi |
| 18:45.11 | shogunx | loca|host /etc/modules |
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| 18:45.26 | SDr | can somebody point me out a good introduction to pfirewall? |
| 18:45.43 | kspath | SDr: pf ? |
| 18:45.51 | SDr | kspath, yeah |
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| 18:46.10 | loca|host | shogunx, i see, but it's not what am seeking, i need to execute iptables rules at startup cause i get them deleted when rebooting |
| 18:46.15 | kspath | SDr: There is a bezedrine.cx website for that stuffs? |
| 18:46.40 | thingfish | initard: unfortunately I don't know if that's a popular enough install method, making it hard to meet people in here that understand what you need to do. |
| 18:46.44 | kspath | SDr: I thought pf was BSD only? |
| 18:46.45 | moshii | are there any XGL packages floating around? Already running xorg 7.0 from experimental and want to give it a go ^^ |
| 18:46.56 | shogunx | loca|host i do that with a script in /usr/bin called from /etc/rcS.d |
| 18:47.01 | initard | LMAO |
| 18:47.07 | initard | thanks anyways thingfish |
| 18:47.31 | thingfish | initard: was apt-setup any help? |
| 18:47.42 | acron0248 | moshii: for debian you have to get compiz and Xgl in rpm is the only way for the moment |
| 18:48.03 | acron0248 | then convert the rpm to deb in order to install them |
| 18:48.07 | moshii | acron0248: really? what about the Ubuntu debs, people seem to have those working |
| 18:48.17 | shogunx | acron0248 moshii or do a source build. |
| 18:48.32 | acron0248 | yes, in the dapper drake repositories |
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| 18:49.07 | moshii | shogunx: I can build the source, just thought they're might be some debs :) |
| 18:49.16 | kspath | SDr: what is the package name for pfirewall? |
| 18:49.26 | loca|host | thank you shogunx |
| 18:49.35 | _ThePiratemaster | how do i restart swat/ |
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| 18:49.41 | shogunx | loca|host n/p |
| 18:49.48 | moshii | had to hack the nvidia glx stuff apart to get a package that worked with xorg7, then found a patch on the BTS gah |
| 18:50.05 | Norbert_ | guys, how can I increase the microphone volume under Debian? (it must record much, much louder) |
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| 18:50.19 | acron0248 | moshii: the only debs (afiak), are in ubuntu dapper, i'd install it using rpms |
| 18:50.24 | moshii | Norbert_: you need to adjust the gain |
| 18:50.25 | shogunx | moshii you could build the source and make some debs to share the joy:) |
| 18:50.28 | thingfish | Norbert_: your volume mixer isn't doing it? |
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| 18:50.53 | thingfish | s/volume mixer/mixer |
| 18:50.55 | moshii | shogunx: Yeah I could,... I'll see what I can do tonight |
| 18:51.12 | acron0248 | I have some debs for debian sid, it's working, with some problems with the video players... |
| 18:51.22 | _ThePiratemaster | hurray for moshii |
| 18:51.27 | moshii | shogunx: I presume it's fairly nice and will build without killing everything |
| 18:51.37 | _ThePiratemaster | hurray |
| 18:51.57 | initard | thingfish, no apt setup seemed like i was going to be successfull but its the same result E: Couldn't find package xfree86 |
| 18:52.11 | shogunx | moshii i would imagine so. |
| 18:52.37 | initard | thingfish, do i need to use the exact package name? |
| 18:52.38 | thingfish | initard: that's because there is no package called that. |
| 18:52.41 | moshii | shogunx: do you know which is better AIGLX or XGL |
| 18:52.50 | thingfish | initard: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 18:52.51 | moshii | shogunx: way too much choice ;) |
| 18:53.02 | initard | lol, i am a tard |
| 18:53.25 | stew | s/ni/am a/ ? |
| 18:53.48 | thingfish | initard: have you chosen/installed a desktop environment yet? |
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| 18:54.16 | initard | no, x-window-system has no candidate? |
| 18:54.27 | initard | no desktop yet, do that first? |
| 18:54.31 | shogunx | moshii i refrain from kernel taintage on the proprietary display drivers on my systems, so i am not the best person to ask. i get glx from mesa with an xorg source build. and it eats the processor badly, but i do like celestia. |
| 18:54.37 | thingfish | not necessarily |
| 18:55.00 | thingfish | initard: I forgot...do you have a good internet connection? |
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| 18:55.15 | initard | it says, it is not available but is refered to by another package... |
| 18:55.16 | shogunx | moshii as to choice, freedom does have its cost;) |
| 18:55.20 | kspath | SDr: All the references to pfirewall seem to refer to a M$ thing whereas pf is a good firewall/tool for BSD especially OpenBSD |
| 18:55.27 | acron0248 | but AIGXL is applied to FC no? |
| 18:55.48 | Norbert_ | moshii / thingfish: gain can do this, yes, but then the sound has a mecanical buzz in it... so I'm looking for another way to do this - if that's possible... |
| 18:56.06 | mxb | Does anyone have any pointers on my problem? Does it just look for a certain file (/etc/crypttab ?) |
| 18:56.08 | moshii | shogunx: I'm going to build XGL from cvs as the page says and hopefully package it later |
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| 18:56.47 | moshii | shogunx: I'm hoping I can do a test build without crapping on what's already there though |
| 18:56.54 | initard | thingfish, decent internet but i'm only online on my ubuntu partition, however i did manage to chroot into my debian part so thats how im working right now |
| 18:56.56 | shogunx | Norbert_ use a more efficient mic, or amplify the mic before it hits the sound card. |
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| 18:57.03 | JasonF | I'm having some trouble with rdiff-backup ... it seems to be completely ignoring two files on my server |
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| 18:57.11 | shogunx | moshii you will most likely be able to. |
| 18:57.13 | JasonF | I tried renaming the files, and it still skips over them |
| 18:57.19 | JasonF | and I'm not seeing any error message at all |
| 18:57.35 | thingfish | initard: if you can access the internet from debian, rerun apt-setup and choose http, pick a mirror. |
| 18:57.44 | Norbert_ | shogunx: hum, okay - my microphone has no amplify option, so I guess this one just isn't very good... |
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| 18:58.00 | shogunx | moshii if something does not work after, you can just comment out the offending entries in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 18:58.06 | thingfish | initard: this will give you access to all sarge packages. |
| 18:58.10 | initard | thingfish, i had to run ndiswrapper to get my wireless card working in ubuntu, wasnt simple |
| 18:58.11 | buu | Hrm. Is there a way to search for 'child processes' of a process you know? |
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| 18:58.38 | thingfish | well, enough of that. |
| 18:58.50 | shogunx | Norbert_ by amplify i meant with a preamp or something. like when the car stereos started with the 5V peak to peak output to take the load off the amplifiers. |
| 18:58.57 | initard | enough of what? |
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| 18:59.44 | shogunx | Norbert_ with an actual device in between the mic and soundcard, that increased the voltage of the signal cleanly, instead of clipping it like maxing the sound cards volume does. |
| 18:59.53 | greennick | anyone want to help a little? I'm trying to do a local NFS mount between two linux computers on my home network, both of which are enabled for each other in /etc/exports, but i keep getting "permission denied" ...what should i check? |
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| 19:00.04 | Norbert_ | shogunx: okay, thanks |
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| 19:00.05 | aksn | hi... |
| 19:00.07 | shogunx | Norbert_ if you are looking for studio quality recording, that is. |
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| 19:00.35 | aksn | could you tell me how to solve this? google didnt help me --> Could not exec dpkg! |
| 19:00.37 | shogunx | Norbert_ n/p |
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| 19:01.28 | freakabcd | hi all |
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| 19:01.50 | freakabcd | isn;t there an ncurses interface to make system services? |
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| 19:02.03 | SimonRaven | o_O |
| 19:02.05 | freakabcd | to enable/disable services in different runlevels |
| 19:02.06 | thingfish | freakabcd: you mean sysvconfig? |
| 19:02.13 | freakabcd | i've used it before but forgotten the name |
| 19:02.30 | greennick | aksn: do you have permissions to run dpkg? can you run it again with 'dpkg -D2000' for better debugging output? |
| 19:02.35 | SimonRaven | that's not making them ... |
| 19:02.48 | freakabcd | thingfish, is that the curses interface? |
| 19:02.57 | thingfish | freakabcd: yes |
| 19:03.15 | initard | hmmmm i'm still wondering what theres enough of |
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| 19:03.21 | aksn | greennick, bash: /usr/bin/dpkg: No such file or directory --> and i just upgraded :'( |
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| 19:04.00 | SimonRaven | aksn: ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg* |
| 19:04.11 | greennick | aksn: do you have locate? (make sure you run updatedb to make it accurate first) try 'locate dpkg' to see if it moved on you |
| 19:04.15 | SimonRaven | did your upgrade get interrupted? |
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| 19:04.25 | Onizuka | hello |
| 19:04.27 | SimonRaven | ... |
| 19:04.34 | SimonRaven | useless use of locate award |
| 19:04.38 | aksn | SimonRaven, yes, i got an uncompress error |
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| 19:04.59 | SimonRaven | i'm still waiting on the output |
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| 19:05.03 | SimonRaven | ls -l |
| 19:05.10 | freakabcd | thingfish, err.. i don;t recall it being like this. |
| 19:05.13 | greennick | all: anyone have an idea about why my nfs mounts might not work? /etc/exports has: '/ computer(rw,sync,no_root_squash) |
| 19:05.13 | greennick | ' for each system |
| 19:05.17 | aksn | SimonRaven, i have many dpkg-* |
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| 19:05.28 | aksn | SimonRaven, 11 exactly |
| 19:05.28 | SimonRaven | freakabcd: rcconf might be what you're thinking of |
| 19:05.41 | freakabcd | it was more like the output from chkconfig but curses based and you could turn services on/off in the various runlevels |
| 19:05.49 | SimonRaven | aksn: eh, do you still have dpkg*.deb in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 19:05.56 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 19:06.20 | Onizuka | Is someone using amarok here ? |
| 19:06.24 | aksn | SimonRaven, yes, i've got it |
| 19:06.31 | Onizuka | I just tried to install it on a debian unstable |
| 19:06.34 | thingfish | freakabcd: do /msg dpkg rc.local - the factoid lists a couple other options. |
| 19:06.37 | SimonRaven | aksn: ok, do this: |
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| 19:06.42 | aksn | but how can i install it without dpkg? :/ |
| 19:06.51 | Onizuka | and I got an error on libtunepimp |
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| 19:07.25 | freakabcd | oh yes!! |
| 19:07.29 | freakabcd | thank you SimonRaven |
| 19:07.31 | freakabcd | thats the one |
| 19:07.36 | SimonRaven | aksn: cp /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg*.deb / && ar p dpkg*.deb data.tar.gz | tar zx && dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg*.deb |
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| 19:08.04 | infinull | Hello All I am having issues with the x server on an old bondi blue iMac tray-loading |
| 19:08.07 | SimonRaven | that's how ;) |
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| 19:08.14 | yos87 | Hi, |
| 19:08.15 | aksn | SimonRaven, no entry dpkg-dev_1.13.18_all.deb in archive |
| 19:08.15 | aksn | no entry dpkg_1.13.17_i386.deb in archive |
| 19:08.15 | aksn | no entry dpkg_1.13.18_i386.deb in archive |
| 19:08.15 | aksn | bash: dpkg: command not found |
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| 19:08.34 | SimonRaven | infinull: dotfile.com has an xfr86config-4 for them IIRC |
| 19:08.37 | aksn | sorry! |
| 19:08.44 | yos87 | what does the error hdc: status error: status=0x00 {} |
| 19:08.50 | yos87 | mean |
| 19:08.53 | SimonRaven | aksn: my bad, just pick one instead of the * |
| 19:09.00 | asg | yos87: generally that your drive is going bad |
| 19:09.00 | thingfish | aksn: debhelper will boot you for more than 3 lines. |
| 19:09.00 | SimonRaven | dpkg_1.13.18_i386.deb |
| 19:09.02 | nite613_ | If I want to use DRBD in sarge, do I have to build the module myself? |
| 19:09.05 | TeknoJuce | whats the difference between woody and sarge? |
| 19:09.13 | nite613_ | TeknoJuce: woody is older |
| 19:09.17 | SimonRaven | instead of dpkg*.deb |
| 19:09.18 | asg | TeknoJuce: 3 years or so of development |
| 19:09.19 | yos87 | asg: why it's going bad, It was working!! |
| 19:09.24 | yos87 | asg: the cdrom |
| 19:09.40 | asg | yos87: hardware breaks, cables break. Verify that all the connections are seated. |
| 19:09.49 | yos87 | asg: it happen when apt-get install something |
| 19:09.58 | TeknoJuce | if im using stable 3.1r1 would that be woody? |
| 19:10.02 | digijohn | Hello, I'm trying to install linux-wlan-ng drivers on Debian (kernel 2.6.16.2), but when I try to compile using m-a, I get an error saying "dh_testdir: cannot read debian/control: No such file or directory". Can somebody tell me what I can do to fix this? |
| 19:10.04 | asg | TeknoJuce: no, sarge |
| 19:10.07 | thingfish | man, I've got to replace this vidcard and power supply... |
| 19:10.11 | SimonRaven | no |
| 19:10.16 | TeknoJuce | does it say it some where? |
| 19:10.18 | yos87 | asg: But why the same cdrom is working fine with widnows? |
| 19:10.18 | asg | yos87: yes but it's a hardware error |
| 19:10.24 | TeknoJuce | is there a command to show what it is? |
| 19:10.33 | aksn | SimonRaven, bash: dpkg: command not found -- that's the problem |
| 19:10.36 | SimonRaven | !version |
| 19:10.36 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 19:10.47 | yos87 | asg: maybe he think there is error |
| 19:10.51 | asg | yos87: because windows doesn't tell you such information. That error means generally that it is dying, not that it is dead. I've had drives exhibit that error and last for years more. |
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| 19:11.36 | yos87 | asg: what is the solution to remove this error |
| 19:11.43 | SimonRaven | aksn: do you see a /usr/bin/dpkg? do the "cp /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.13.18_i386.deb / && ar p dpkg*.deb data.tar.gz | tar zx" command again |
| 19:11.49 | yos87 | asg: can be battary problem? |
| 19:12.04 | yos87 | asg: it's new pc |
| 19:12.10 | yos87 | asg: I just boughtg |
| 19:12.10 | SimonRaven | btw, C&P that exactly ... |
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| 19:12.22 | digijohn | Anybody? Nobody? |
| 19:12.25 | aksn | SimonRaven, thats the problem, there is no /usr/bin/dpkg :( |
| 19:12.32 | asg | yos87: try pasting the error in google to see if that is symptomatic of other problems. |
| 19:12.39 | joao | I have a problem with dselect/apt: I selected in dselect a package for installation that was going to unistall most of my debian (~500Mb), so I cancelled when it asked if I wanted to continue; BUT now whenever I use dselect it remembers those packages that were to be unistalled and I can't upgrade in an easy way |
| 19:12.42 | jbrouhard | Well, I finally fixed my PowerEdge 6400 problem.. it wasn't loading megaraid, so I had to manually do it |
| 19:12.47 | SimonRaven | !anyone |
| 19:12.47 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 19:13.04 | asg | jbrouhard: yeah, the installer often has issues auto-finding the megaraid based controllers |
| 19:13.14 | jbrouhard | So i've noticed. |
| 19:13.21 | jbrouhard | NOW it's working I'm happy and now know how to fix it ;) |
| 19:13.29 | asg | jbrouhard: bravo :) |
| 19:13.32 | SimonRaven | ravenbird: test2 |
| 19:13.33 | ravenbird | Yes I'm online |
| 19:13.37 | yos87 | asg: there is resulf for this |
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| 19:14.12 | infinull | SimonRaven: I couldn't find it :-( |
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| 19:14.25 | oskie | WARNING: for security reasons, you should not use this module for purposes other than local login |
| 19:14.34 | oskie | from libpam-krb module... :( |
| 19:14.40 | SimonRaven | infinull: dotfiles.com, sorry |
| 19:15.21 | yos87 | asg: http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23340 |
| 19:15.32 | yos87 | this is what happen with me |
| 19:15.55 | yos87 | but there is no answare in the forum |
| 19:16.27 | asg | yos87: try checking all the cabling from the controller to the drive. If you have a spare cable, try using it instead and see if the error persists. |
| 19:16.38 | digijohn | Ah, solved my problem. I guess I should have looked at the bug reports! |
| 19:16.48 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 19:17.02 | digijohn | I forget about those all too often. |
| 19:17.09 | infinull | SimonRaven: Thank You! |
| 19:17.10 | yos87 | asg: it's laptop |
| 19:17.19 | digijohn | Sure enough, the first grave bug was exactly what I needed :-) |
| 19:17.19 | SimonRaven | infinull: :) |
| 19:18.01 | SimonRaven | aksn: still around? |
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| 19:19.19 | initard | ok, this thing is asking me to entrust font management to Defoma..i dont know that much about Defoma, can i trust Defoma? anyone? |
| 19:19.33 | thingfish | initard: say yes |
| 19:19.37 | initard | cool |
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| 19:20.08 | dglerum | who kieren |
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| 19:21.38 | initard | thingfish, i tried a pkg i knew was on there, gnome-apt just to see if it was reading the iso's at all and it started it and i think some of the dependencys are xwindows |
| 19:22.24 | avtobiff | x window. not x windows. |
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| 19:22.52 | jbrouhard | yay.. debian booted.. *does a snoopy dance* |
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| 19:23.02 | avtobiff | or at your option x11, x11r6, xfree, x window system or just plain x. but not ever x windows... |
| 19:23.09 | abrotman | jbrouhard: trying to be the next star wars kid ? |
| 19:23.12 | avtobiff | please |
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| 19:23.24 | abrotman | i use xwindows all the time! |
| 19:23.39 | initard | can i call it x doors then? |
| 19:23.45 | avtobiff | amagad |
| 19:23.47 | jbrouhard | abrotman, Hell no.. I'm a martial artist. i don't need to do that fancy stuff ;) |
| 19:23.47 | Daedalus_ | avtobiff: xwindows. Grow up, get over it. |
| 19:23.52 | kspath | man automatic-door |
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| 19:24.04 | abrotman | doors are soooo BBS-ish :) |
| 19:24.11 | Daedalus_ | *laughs* |
| 19:24.12 | initard | lol |
| 19:24.22 | kspath | abrotman: man automatic-door |
| 19:24.35 | initard | grow up or throw up and lik it up like 7 up |
| 19:24.37 | oskie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shocker_%28hand_gesture%29 that's the shitz |
| 19:24.45 | Hagfish | how do i find out what is keeping my harddrive activity light solidyly on (despite my system being 95% idle)? |
| 19:24.53 | thingfish | hehe how old are you, initard? |
| 19:25.08 | initard | too old |
| 19:25.10 | initard | lol |
| 19:25.21 | initard | thats the old school shizznizz |
| 19:25.24 | abrotman | @geezersmite initard |
| 19:25.33 | initard | like seeeeeven up |
| 19:25.34 | abrotman | !geezersmite initard |
| 19:25.36 | yos87 | asg: do you know hdparm? |
| 19:25.36 | abrotman | yay |
| 19:25.40 | asg | !beat abrotman with solar realms |
| 19:25.45 | asg | yos87: yes |
| 19:25.49 | initard | hahah |
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| 19:25.50 | abrotman | !phillysmite asg |
| 19:26.14 | yos87 | asg: can this packages help me? seems they speak about it here http://kerneltrap.org/comment/reply/1630/4838 |
| 19:26.21 | raf256_ | !smitesmite asg |
| 19:26.34 | kspath | !abuse |
| 19:26.34 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
| 19:26.45 | Hagfish | oh, it's stopped now... that's good... |
| 19:26.53 | asg | yos87: it's often used to tweak various ide parameters, you might try turning off DMA and enabling some of the more conservative settings. |
| 19:26.54 | initard | ok, this will probly freeze my system if it works |
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| 19:27.12 | initard | nope |
| 19:27.14 | asg | raf256_: I didn't smite him, I beat him with a stick. |
| 19:27.23 | abrotman | i'm a mule! |
| 19:27.28 | raf256_ | !sticksmite asg |
| 19:27.33 | kspath | I am an ass. |
| 19:27.42 | yos87 | asg : how to dilable DMA? hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc? |
| 19:27.45 | raf256_ | join togeather |
| 19:27.45 | thingfish | do they have mules in pennsylvania? |
| 19:27.51 | stew | yes |
| 19:27.58 | stew | they pull the barges on the canals |
| 19:28.02 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 19:28.21 | abrotman | thingfish: they wear umbrella hats |
| 19:28.23 | asg | yos87: yes |
| 19:28.25 | stew | i used to do a lot of running on canal paths, and was constantly having to avoid the mule evidence |
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| 19:28.44 | thingfish | it's horrible being naive. I don't know whether to believe you guys or not. |
| 19:28.45 | initard | whats the command to start X isnt it startX? |
| 19:28.54 | abrotman | stew: i think that was from horses .. they don't use the canals for boats much anymore :) |
| 19:28.56 | asg | "Junior, put the evidence in the car. But daddy" -- Smokey and the Bandit |
| 19:29.04 | stew | abrotman: they do in Bucks County |
| 19:29.09 | abrotman | stew: still? |
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| 19:29.10 | stew | yes |
| 19:29.21 | abrotman | thingfish: yes .. there are lots of canals in PA ... |
| 19:29.26 | thingfish | mules are beautiful animals, much prettier than the horse, imo. |
| 19:29.29 | abrotman | thingfish: most rarely used anymore |
| 19:29.31 | thingfish | abrotman: neat |
| 19:29.34 | stew | if you are into big ears |
| 19:29.45 | netman1 | initard: /etc/init.d/[g|k|x]dm start |
| 19:29.53 | abrotman | thingfish: http://www.pa-canal-society.org/ |
| 19:30.03 | kspath | put some antlers on a mule and call it a jack-o-lope |
| 19:30.08 | initard | all that? |
| 19:30.13 | yos87 | asg: not working, the same error |
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| 19:30.17 | thingfish | hey thanks, abrotman |
| 19:30.18 | initard | wow |
| 19:30.24 | netman1 | initard: choose 1 |
| 19:30.35 | abrotman | stew: oh .. you mean the one in new hope? |
| 19:30.57 | asg | yos87: try removing the cd module and re-inserting it. Other than the error though, does it work at all? |
| 19:30.59 | TaF | hello, |
| 19:31.00 | thingfish | initard: did you install either xdm, gdm, or kdm? |
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| 19:31.11 | abrotman | thingfish: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/ppet/canals/page1.asp?secid=31 |
| 19:31.15 | asg | thingfish: don't forget wdm ;) |
| 19:31.16 | initard | thingfish, well, what i did... |
| 19:31.17 | Petrov | hello, can i install a desktop on a computer 200Mhz 64mb :s |
| 19:31.27 | asg | Petrov: you can |
| 19:31.30 | TeknoJuce | i just finished compiling the kernel and when i tried to boot it it says VFS:Cannot open root device "hdc1" or unknown-block (0,0) |
| 19:31.48 | thingfish | asg: damn |
| 19:31.48 | TaF | any mozilla experts here? |
| 19:31.49 | asg | Petrov: I'd suggest staying away from Gnome or KDE though. |
| 19:31.50 | aksn | SimonRaven, i have no dpkg, so i cant install anything :( |
| 19:32.04 | TeknoJuce | how do i apend the correct "root=" boot option? |
| 19:32.19 | joao | Teknojuce: did u install the modules and create initrd? |
| 19:32.30 | Le_Vert | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 19:32.34 | yos87 | asg: it's not working |
| 19:32.45 | RvGaTe | Guys, im looking for a good article for my boss, to convince him to use linux over windows with our webhosting... he might use windows 2003 + plesk, instead of linux + cpanel... help ! :) |
| 19:32.50 | initard | thingfish, since i couldnt get x-window-system to apt , i just apt-got installed gnome-apt hoping the x window would load with it and now theres alot of instances of X on my system but no startX |
| 19:32.56 | stew | http://www.delawarecanalphotos.com/202tonewhope.html <- mules |
| 19:32.58 | TaF | i know its a petty subject, but i wouldnt ask for help if i wasnt truly at a loss.... |
| 19:33.01 | TeknoJuce | i dont know how to do that the document just said reboot and that was the end :( |
| 19:33.06 | asg | yos87: well, I'd suggest checking out tuxmobile.org for your particular model and see if there is any info there about potential issues. |
| 19:33.07 | Petrov | asg: no graphic interface? |
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| 19:33.26 | JarJarBinks | does anybody know how to use ls with options that will show only where a symlink points to, and not all the other information: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2006-01-15 20:41 resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf should be resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf |
| 19:33.27 | asg | Petrov: no, a different window manager like fluxbox, fvwm2, or perhaps icewm or xfce |
| 19:33.46 | TeknoJuce | joao ? |
| 19:33.52 | thingfish | initard: here you go: type tasksel and choose Desktop Environment. There. |
| 19:33.56 | npx | I dist-upgraded from stable to unstable (primarily for php5 and whatnot); I don't even want to use X on the machine, but I'm getting this error. http://pastebin.com/654138 - can anyone help me out? |
| 19:34.03 | TaF | why did my flash plugins go bonkers today? can anyone help me? |
| 19:34.32 | initard | ok, well i just tried apt-get install gdm and it found it so i'm letting that install right now |
| 19:34.34 | Petrov | asg, what would be easiest, I am a noob :d |
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| 19:34.39 | stew | npx: /msg dpkg x11-common conflict |
| 19:34.52 | joao | how did u install the kernel? |
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| 19:34.54 | stew | npx: in the future, you know, you could just install a php5 backport onto stable |
| 19:35.01 | asg | Petrov: try using xfce or icewm first. If those don't fit the bill or are too slow, try fluxbox or fvwm2 |
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| 19:35.45 | digijohn | Okay, I'm trying to compile linux-wlan-ng for 2.6.16.2, and it's crapping out on me when trying to compile prism2_cs.c. I'm pretty sure I don't need that (I have a USB wireless dongle), so how can I tell m-a not to build it? |
| 19:36.02 | Petrov | asg, thx and it's not difficult to configure? |
| 19:36.05 | TaF | i am a fast learner |
| 19:36.16 | TaF | im just brand new, thats all |
| 19:36.34 | yos87 | asg: how to dilable mta exactly |
| 19:36.36 | asg | Petrov: no, just install them and go |
| 19:36.42 | asg | yos87: dma? |
| 19:36.48 | Petrov | asg, oké |
| 19:36.53 | Petrov | asg, THX ! |
| 19:36.57 | asg | Petrov: you're welcome |
| 19:37.02 | aksn | bash: /usr/bin/dpkg: No such file or directory -> anybody knows how to solve it? |
| 19:37.11 | asg | aksn: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:37.18 | asg | aksn: paste what that prints out |
| 19:37.31 | yos87 | asg: yes DMA |
| 19:37.35 | stew | aksn: what happened to it? |
| 19:37.35 | aksn | asg, testing/unstable |
| 19:37.44 | TeknoJuce | joao: dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.16.3_custom.1.0_i386.deb |
| 19:38.09 | aksn | stew, just upgraded, and i got an uncompress error |
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| 19:38.12 | asg | yos87: like you said, /sbin/hdparm -d 0 /dev/foo |
| 19:38.26 | initard | thingfish, last error was tasksel: aptitude failed (255) |
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| 19:38.35 | stew | aksn: do you still ahve the dpkg .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
| 19:38.42 | TaF | anyone care to tackle my problem real quick? its an easy one, im sure, for any of you.... |
| 19:38.47 | aksn | stew, yes, i have |
| 19:38.48 | joao | tekjuice: try typping: mkinitrd -o <location that u want for initrd> 2.6.16.3 |
| 19:38.56 | stew | aksn: you could try hand installing that |
| 19:39.00 | joao | u must be superuser |
| 19:39.12 | aksn | stew, how is that without dpkg? |
| 19:39.26 | asg | aksn: unpack it with ar(1) |
| 19:39.35 | asg | aksn: copy the necessary files to where they need to be manually |
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| 19:39.47 | stew | aksn: its just an ar archive of 2 .tar.gzs, the DATA.tar.gz will contain the acutal files |
| 19:39.53 | TeknoJuce | what the location that i want where the kernel was loacated /usr/src/ ? |
| 19:40.16 | joao | probably is /boot/ |
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| 19:40.52 | aksn | stew, i dont understand, sorry |
| 19:41.10 | TeknoJuce | mkinitrd -o /boot/ 2.6.16.3 |
| 19:41.11 | TeknoJuce | ? |
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| 19:41.27 | stew | aksn: a .deb is an "ar" archive. man ar; the ar archive contains 2 .tar.gzs a control.tar.gz and a data.tar.gz the data one contains the actual files |
| 19:41.42 | joao | mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img.2.6.16.3 2.6.16.3 |
| 19:41.51 | tuvwx | is there a 3d plotting tool with nice output? i use gnuplot, but like pyx output. unfortunately, pyx does not do 3d |
| 19:42.04 | _ThePiratemaster | how do i restart swat? |
| 19:42.07 | Azar | ha! well I knew very well why I wanted to move over from windows to linux, and not ANY linux, but Debian GNU/Linux, this is the number1 reason (out of 8): http://www.okgazette.com/news/templates/cover.asp?articleid=423&zoneid=7 |
| 19:42.13 | _ThePiratemaster | its in inetd |
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| 19:42.41 | aksn | stew, do you think this problem can happen because i put a cd recorder on the system? |
| 19:42.44 | stew | TeknoJuce: "Cannot open root device" means that the drivers for either your filesystem (ext3) or your hard disk controller weren't included in the kernel. you should have either compiled these into the kernel or told make-kpkg to include initrd creation by giving it the --initrd switch |
| 19:42.53 | stew | aksn: no |
| 19:43.07 | carbon60 | Ok, this is driving me out of my mind. |
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| 19:43.27 | stew | !comfort carbon60 |
| 19:43.27 | dpkg | There, there, carbon60. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 19:43.34 | carbon60 | pipeline: Still around? |
| 19:43.38 | aksn | stew, it's the first time it happens in 3 years, and today i put that fucking recorder that gave me so many problems in windows |
| 19:43.39 | asg | you can't drive 'me' out of 'mind', they are one in the same. |
| 19:43.40 | carbon60 | stew: Why thank you. :-) |
| 19:43.48 | npx | stew, thanks man! |
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| 19:43.53 | carbon60 | Hehe. |
| 19:44.05 | TeknoJuce | wish the documents tell you these things :( |
| 19:44.09 | carbon60 | I'm googling this, but not finding anything relevant. |
| 19:44.21 | carbon60 | netserver LH 3 with PCI problems. |
| 19:44.42 | carbon60 | eth0 won't come up, although the driver recognises it: "Device or resource busy" |
| 19:44.54 | RvGaTe | Guys, im looking for a good article for my boss, to convince him to use linux over windows with our webhosting... he might use windows 2003 + plesk, instead of linux + cpanel... help ! :) |
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| 19:45.17 | abrotman | try debian+vi |
| 19:45.22 | carbon60 | So I tried another card, and got the same error. Must be a motherboard issue. |
| 19:45.24 | abrotman | !tell RvGaTe about why deiban |
| 19:45.26 | abrotman | !tell RvGaTe about why debian |
| 19:45.28 | joao | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.34 | abrotman | RvGaTe: but google for "linux advocacy" |
| 19:45.36 | Ozux | !tell |
| 19:45.46 | Azar | carbon60: maybe this: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=974122 |
| 19:46.17 | stew | joao: do you know which package is causing this? |
| 19:46.20 | TeknoJuce | okay i did mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img.2.6.16.3 2.6.16.3 sat there processing for a min then went back to the dir brb restart |
| 19:46.51 | stew | TeknoJuce: do you use grub or lilo? |
| 19:46.57 | joao | I don't want to install it anymore, it was a static version of xorg, I think |
| 19:47.00 | TeknoJuce | grub i beleave |
| 19:47.00 | RvGaTe | abrotman: what does advocacy mean ? |
| 19:47.01 | kspath | RvGaTe: why not do both |
| 19:47.11 | abrotman | !dict advocate |
| 19:47.12 | stew | TeknoJuce: run "update-grub" before rebooting |
| 19:47.13 | asg | !dict advocacy |
| 19:47.13 | dpkg | Dictionary 'advocate' (2 of 16): . Advocate \Ad"vo*cate\, v. i. To act as advocate. [Obs.] --Fuller. ;; . Advocate \Ad"vo*cate\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Advocated; p. pr. & vb. n. Advocating.] [See Advocate, n., Advoke, Avow.] To plead in favor of; to defend by argument, before a tribunal or the public; to support, vindicate, or recommend publicly.. |
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| 19:47.18 | dpkg | Dictionary 'advocacy' active support; especially the act of pleading or arguing for something |
| 19:47.21 | TeknoJuce | okay will do |
| 19:47.36 | nvz | man I knew I dropped a piece of weed on the floor last week.. |
| 19:47.37 | RvGaTe | thx asg |
| 19:47.41 | stew | joao: if you know the name of the package you could maybe try: echo "packagename deinstall" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 19:47.55 | kspath | RvGaTe: If he/she/it lets you run both than the debian linux box will speak for itself over time if admin correctly. |
| 19:48.09 | asg | RvGaTe: are you just doing web hosting? If you are looking at virtualized hosting, GNU/Linux + Xen are a compelling solution. |
| 19:48.10 | Azar | nvz growing up flowers in the carpet ? |
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| 19:48.18 | carbon60 | Azar: Don't think so, the system has been running perfectly under Windows 2000 for many years. |
| 19:48.27 | asg | nvz: make sure it isn't a hairball first |
| 19:48.40 | Azar | carbon60: forget about windows completely: focus and learn to master linux OSes |
| 19:48.42 | nvz | Azar: more like pretending I didt notice it fell last week so I could hide it from myself until later |
| 19:49.14 | carbon60 | Azar: Thank you for the advice, I am a Unix-only admin who has never dealt with Windows. |
| 19:49.17 | stew | joao: this might identify the offending package: dpkg -l | grep "^i[^i]" |
| 19:49.19 | digijohn | Okay, this is driving me nuts. I was able to compile linux-wlan-ng for my desktop machine (2.6.15-1-k7), but not for my laptop (using a custom-compiled kernel) |
| 19:49.25 | nvz | asg: if this is a hairball I'll take my chances.. if its neon green with little neon orange hairs.. I'll definatly take my chances |
| 19:49.31 | abrotman | carbon60: does ifconfig -a show the NIC? |
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| 19:49.39 | Azar | carbon60: I spent 3 years learning how to basic-administer my Debian linux box, been 6 months I quit on windows |
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| 19:49.47 | zleap | hello |
| 19:49.56 | Ozux | I wanna install OOo2 in debian Sarge, is any backport for this?! |
| 19:49.59 | carbon60 | abrotman: Uh, I'll doublecheck. |
| 19:50.03 | abrotman | !tell Ozux about backports |
| 19:50.04 | joao | the problem is that that package add 160 others to the list |
| 19:50.15 | nachoguy | Ozux: check backports.org |
| 19:50.17 | stew | Ozux: backports.org/instructions.html |
| 19:50.20 | Ozux | !tell Ozux about backports |
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| 19:50.28 | Ozux | !tell about backports |
| 19:50.31 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yes. (I had been banging on it with ifconfig eth0 up) |
| 19:50.42 | RvGaTe | asg: there is this IT company where i work at, and since they ordered me to create websites etc, he wants to do hosting aswell, but now he has a server installed in a datacentre, on windows... without any tools to offer hosting packages... im trying to make him change to Debian Cpanel, becouse i know how to work with it... otherwise its Windows + Plesk, and that we all need to learn from ground up... Altho he is considering on buying a second server a |
| 19:50.45 | abrotman | carbon60: so it's already up .. and you're trying to up it again? |
| 19:50.51 | Azar | Ozux: in your private check the message |
| 19:50.58 | RvGaTe | that was a message for kspath aswell |
| 19:51.04 | carbon60 | abrotman: No, it's isn't "UP". |
| 19:51.05 | stew | joao: show me the output of dpkg -l | grep "^i[^i]" ; use a pastebin /msg dpkg paster |
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| 19:51.22 | abrotman | carbon60: can you paste the output of `ifconfig -a` somewhere |
| 19:51.22 | abrotman | !paste |
| 19:51.23 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 19:51.25 | Ozux | Azar: Yes it's tell me ... thanks Azar |
| 19:51.51 | carbon60 | abrotman: A little tough, but I'll try. |
| 19:51.51 | abrotman | carbon60: also include the contents of /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:52.01 | abrotman | carbon60: you're not IRCing from the machine i gather? |
| 19:52.15 | carbon60 | abrotman: No, I'm trying to install sarge on it. |
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| 19:52.33 | abrotman | carbon60: wait .. sarge is installed .. or you're still in the installer? |
| 19:52.35 | carbon60 | What am I looking for? |
| 19:52.40 | carbon60 | I'm in the installer. |
| 19:52.44 | abrotman | carbon60: IIRC .. the LH3 is about .. 6 years old ? maybe 7? |
| 19:52.50 | carbon60 | Yes, old. |
| 19:52.52 | RvGaTe | asg: kspath, altho buying Cpanel AND Plesk is a real investment |
| 19:52.52 | asg | RvGaTe: well, then 1) You won't have to pay for a Window 2003 license and 2) you already know Debian + CPanel so your training costs will be lower. |
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| 19:53.12 | carbon60 | It was decommissioned by someone else, so I'm repurposing it. |
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| 19:53.14 | abrotman | carbon60: you have one NIC in the machine? |
| 19:53.34 | abrotman | carbon60: i don't blame them .. i had a NetServer E60 as a workstation for a while .. not the best machines :) |
| 19:53.40 | stew | !dselect oopsie is if you selected packages for install that you no longer want to install, run this command: COLUMS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^i[^i]/{print $2}' | while read a ; do echo "$a deinstall" | sudo dpkg --set-selections ; done |
| 19:53.40 | dpkg | stew: okay |
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| 19:53.44 | aksn | stew, i managed to install it by hand, everything is ok again, thank you so much ;) |
| 19:53.48 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yes. Originally, it had an HP branded Intel NIC. I swapped it for a broadcom based 64-bit tg3 nic. Same issue. |
| 19:54.17 | abrotman | carbon60: and when you look at ifconfig -a .. you see eth0? |
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| 19:54.35 | initard | how can i query my monitor settings? |
| 19:54.36 | abrotman | carbon60: and is your network giving out DHCP addresses ? |
| 19:54.40 | abrotman | xdpyinfo ? |
| 19:54.42 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yes. But not UP. All the counters are 0. |
| 19:54.45 | kspath | RvGaTe: not offering linux hosting as an option will be quiet annoying to some of your potential customers |
| 19:54.48 | TeknoJuce | same error no go |
| 19:54.53 | abrotman | carbon60: does it have an IP ? |
| 19:55.09 | TeknoJuce | so i compiled this kernel wrong and i have no clue of what settings to use |
| 19:55.22 | initard | how can i query my monitor settings? it works fine ubuntu, so i want to plug the same values into debian |
| 19:55.26 | stew | TeknoJuce: why are you compiling a kernel in the first place? |
| 19:55.34 | TeknoJuce | and will have to keep sitting here for 2+hours to keep recompiling it |
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| 19:55.36 | carbon60 | It won't UP. ifconfig IP MASK produces "Device or resource busy". |
| 19:55.41 | stew | initard: just use the xorg.conf from ubuntu |
| 19:55.47 | asg | RvGaTe: if you have to do both Windows and Linux/BSD hosting, then VMWare's ESX server is probably your best bet. |
| 19:55.48 | abrotman | carbon60: and what does ifconfig eth0 down say? |
| 19:55.48 | JordiGH | Where are login attempts logged? |
| 19:55.56 | abrotman | /var/log/auth.log ? |
| 19:56.01 | carbon60 | Nothing. |
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| 19:56.20 | abrotman | carbon60: no DHCP on your network ?> |
| 19:56.28 | carbon60 | abrotman: The fact that the *exact* same thing happens with two different NICs is telling. |
| 19:56.38 | abrotman | carbon60: of what? |
| 19:56.42 | initard | stew what if i'm usin xfree86 |
| 19:56.42 | carbon60 | abrotman: I do, but what does DHCP have to do with it? |
| 19:56.47 | TeknoJuce | theres some drivers for a DVB-s card that says its better to run a 2.6.12+ kernel with them :( |
| 19:56.49 | abrotman | carbon60: yu've used different slots? |
| 19:57.02 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yes. 32-bit then 64-bit. |
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| 19:57.11 | JordiGH | Thanks, abrotman. And what should I grep for if I'm looking for login failures? |
| 19:57.23 | initard | does anyone know if stew knows what he's talking about? |
| 19:57.26 | abrotman | JordiGH: i have no idea which type of login failures you're looking for |
| 19:57.32 | carbon60 | abrotman: Someone suggested earlier that it could be acpi or apic related? |
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| 19:57.48 | carbon60 | Even tried 2.4.x instead of 2.6.x. Same error. |
| 19:57.50 | abrotman | initard: you should leave stew alone .. he got his hand stuck in a german shepard yesterday |
| 19:57.54 | carbon60 | So I'm completely baffled. |
| 19:57.59 | initard | lmao |
| 19:58.09 | initard | did you get pictures stew |
| 19:58.10 | stew | initard: its likely to work anyway if you copy it to /etc/X11/XFree86Config-4 ; how is your monitor connected? analog or digitally? |
| 19:58.21 | initard | laptop |
| 19:58.28 | abrotman | carbon60: if you down the interface .. then up it with an IP .. no change ? |
| 19:58.33 | JordiGH | abrotman: Say, someone tried to type in a passwd at a kdm login screen but failed. |
| 19:58.34 | TeknoJuce | is there a premade kernel of 2.6.16 |
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| 19:58.35 | abrotman | carbon60: did you use the 2.6 or 2.4 ? |
| 19:58.37 | stew | initard: then leave out the refresh rates and they will likely be autodetected |
| 19:58.48 | abrotman | stew: you're not very nice to dogs! :) |
| 19:58.51 | carbon60 | abrotman: No change. |
| 19:59.05 | stew | abrotman: i'm nice to my dog |
| 19:59.08 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:59.10 | TeknoJuce | because theres like a million options |
| 19:59.11 | initard | i dunno, i'm running tasksel and its asking me everything in sequence, cant leave out the refresh rates so i just went with the mediumish one |
| 19:59.12 | carbon60 | abrotman: Currently looking at 2.6. As I mentioned, 2.4 gave me the same problem. |
| 19:59.13 | stew | abrotman: and german shepards don't make good soup |
| 19:59.16 | TeknoJuce | stew? |
| 19:59.17 | abrotman | sadly i can't even spell sheperd |
| 19:59.29 | stew | TeknoJuce: yes, what version of debian are you running/ |
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| 19:59.54 | JordiGH | TeknoJuce: Many. The name is linux-image-kernelversion. |
| 20:00.01 | TeknoJuce | stew: stable3.1r1 |
| 20:00.39 | carbon60 | abrotman: I can't find anything about PnP OS in the BIOS. |
| 20:00.45 | ike | hi. |
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| 20:01.10 | stew | TeknoJuce: probably not backported yet. do you really need 2.6.16 over 2.6.15? 2.6.15 is on backports.org |
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| 20:01.28 | TeknoJuce | no 15 is fine how do i use that |
| 20:01.28 | yos87 | how to shutdown from text mode? |
| 20:01.37 | adingman | shutdown -h now |
| 20:01.47 | Spanishguy30 | quiet: i got it (graphical interface) thank u very much |
| 20:01.48 | stew | TeknoJuce: http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 20:02.04 | RvGaTe | http://www.cpanel.com/ <- scroll down a bit, it says Debian 3.0(Beta), i 3.0 is sarge right? that went stable a few monts ago (if it isn't a year already) |
| 20:02.06 | abrotman | carbon60: i'm not sure that matters |
| 20:02.06 | denny | E: Package libcupsys2 has no installation candidate # is that as far as I´m going to get with etch on an amd64 box? |
| 20:02.16 | carbon60 | Then I'm stuck. |
| 20:02.23 | carbon60 | abrotman: It just doesn't make any damn sense. |
| 20:02.28 | quiet | Spanishguy30, good :) |
| 20:02.32 | abrotman | carbon60: the interface is up .. it just has no IP or route |
| 20:02.35 | asg | denny: #debian-amd64 might have some insight |
| 20:02.40 | JordiGH | Thanks for your help, abrotman. At least you got started me in the right direction. :) |
| 20:02.44 | denny | asg, thanks |
| 20:02.47 | carbon60 | abrotman: No, it *isn't* UP. |
| 20:02.53 | adingman | anyone know whether the linux-image-*-vserver* pacages are meant for host or guest OS? |
| 20:02.59 | vin` | RvGaTe: woody |
| 20:03.04 | floe | a friend of mine has the following error: debconf: Problem setting up the database defined by stanza 3 of /etc/debconf.conf. Not an ARRAY referenceat /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver.pm line 23,<DEBCONF_CONFIG> chunk 3. Any idea what went wrong? |
| 20:03.06 | carbon60 | abrotman: When an interface is UP, it says UP in the ifconfig output. |
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| 20:03.24 | Spanishguy30 | quiet: can i ask u another couple of questions? |
| 20:03.30 | lewis | pound looks like a good idea to me, but it still has a single point of failure. Will this always be the case? |
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| 20:03.40 | asg | floe: I'l look at stanza 3 in /etc/debconf.conf |
| 20:03.42 | quiet | Spanishguy30, you're welcomed to, can't guarantee i'll have an answer thoguh ;) |
| 20:04.06 | Spanishguy30 | ok quiet lets go: Ive no sound |
| 20:04.17 | quiet | install alsa? |
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| 20:04.33 | Spanishguy30 | i have already done... |
| 20:04.40 | quiet | alsaconf |
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| 20:04.58 | Spanishguy30 | what does "alsaconf" mean? |
| 20:05.04 | quiet | i mean... run...as root... alsaconf |
| 20:05.06 | Azar | Spanishguy30: add your username to audio group, use alsamixer to unmute volumes, configure your player to use alsa plugins.. |
| 20:05.24 | Spanishguy30 | thats too much for a newbie |
| 20:05.27 | Azar | Spanishguy30: alsaconf : configure alsa for your sound |
| 20:05.31 | quiet | the first created user should already be a member of audio |
| 20:05.39 | Azar | Spanishguy30: all newbies learn |
| 20:05.45 | Spanishguy30 | yes and i want to |
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| 20:05.50 | RvGaTe | thx for the help guys, ill see how my boss reacts to some articles about windows vs linux webhosting |
| 20:05.56 | Spanishguy30 | but i have to begin from Zero |
| 20:05.59 | RvGaTe | gtg, cya |
| 20:05.59 | quiet | Spanishguy30, it's pretty easy...just do alsaconf to make sure it's recognized. |
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| 20:06.20 | abrotman | carbon60: can you unload the module driving it? |
| 20:06.24 | floe | asg: The files are ok... I "scped" them from my box |
| 20:06.37 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yes. Unload and load. |
| 20:06.40 | Azar | Spanishguy30: you have to know the sound driver name you are using, and armed with that type: alsaconf |
| 20:07.25 | TeknoJuce | how do i open sources.list to add deb http://www.backports.org/debain/ sarge-backports main |
| 20:07.35 | Azar | Spanishguy30: you find out what sound you are using by typing : lspci (look at the Multimedia audio line to see what you are using) |
| 20:07.37 | TeknoJuce | says readonly when i tried |
| 20:07.40 | abrotman | carbon60: and when you unload it .. it's not in ifconfig .. |
| 20:07.41 | Spanishguy30 | azar& quiet, firstly i have to configure the modem conection.. |
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| 20:07.51 | carbon60 | abrotman: I'll confirm that before I answer. |
| 20:07.51 | abrotman | carbon60: and when you load it .. it won't have an IP .. but should show in the ifconfig |
| 20:07.59 | Azar | Spanishguy30: ok one by one then |
| 20:08.00 | quiet | Spanishguy30, what does modem have to do with sound? |
| 20:08.09 | Nopalin | ey, what pŕckage contains development headers like stdio.h, string.h .... ? |
| 20:08.15 | Spanishguy30 | because right now im using Win2 not debian |
| 20:08.15 | TeknoJuce | stew |
| 20:08.27 | quiet | Spanishguy30, ahh.. okay.. and this is an external modem? |
| 20:08.28 | Spanishguy30 | so if i want to make lspci have to reboot |
| 20:08.32 | Azar | Spanishguy30: so your installation did not found your modem, right? |
| 20:08.36 | Spanishguy30 | no its internal... |
| 20:08.43 | quiet | Spanishguy30, it probably will not work |
| 20:09.00 | abrotman | carbon60: does the netinst use dhclient? |
| 20:09.01 | stew | TeknoJuce: you must edit it as root, use su or sudo |
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| 20:09.06 | Spanishguy30 | should i buy an external one? |
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| 20:09.23 | Azar | bah dual boot, I have no idea about that |
| 20:09.27 | quiet | Spanishguy30, yes. you need a 'hardware modem' internal modems are almost always 'software modems' or 'winodems' |
| 20:09.50 | Spanishguy30 | but this one is a hardware modem i think |
| 20:09.51 | quiet | Spanishguy30, an external modem like a 3-com or us robotics or something should work |
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| 20:10.30 | carbon60 | abrotman: Confirmed that eth0 goes away after unloading tg3. |
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| 20:10.40 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yes, it tried dhclient, which fails. |
| 20:10.43 | Spanishguy30 | Win Soft PCI Modem V.92 is what i have |
| 20:10.50 | carbon60 | I'm on a console trying to figure it out. |
| 20:10.51 | kspath | winmodem |
| 20:10.59 | bronze | http://rhil.org/docs/faq.html#winmodem |
| 20:11.10 | Spanishguy30 | is a conexant modem |
| 20:11.45 | tobiask | Nopalin: `dpkg -S /usr/include/stdio.h` |
| 20:11.57 | kspath | is there a linmodem site somewhere? |
| 20:12.08 | stew | linmodems.org |
| 20:12.12 | Nopalin | tobiask: one header by one? |
| 20:12.23 | tobiask | Nopalin: ? |
| 20:12.33 | Nopalin | tobiask: i need muchs headers |
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| 20:12.36 | abrotman | carbon60: i thought this was an e100 card? |
| 20:12.43 | Ozux | I have a question about dpkg bot |
| 20:12.48 | kspath | Spanishguy30: did you see linmodems.org at stew said? |
| 20:12.50 | Nopalin | are there any package that constians all? the most basics at least? |
| 20:12.52 | Ozux | who is writer?! |
| 20:12.52 | abrotman | carbon60: you do realize that some of the tg3 cards require firmware ? .. right ? |
| 20:13.00 | abrotman | !tell Ozux about blootbot |
| 20:13.03 | stew | Ozux: blootbot.sf.net |
| 20:13.25 | stew | abrotman: the tg3 firmware blob is now in the mainline and debian kernels, though |
| 20:13.27 | quiet | Spanishguy30, http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ it's not free.... good luck.. i have noe xperience with that. |
| 20:13.34 | carbon60 | abrotman: I'll start again: I had an e100 in it, had this problem, put in a tg3 card, still had this problem. Drivers for both cards load fine, letting me know about it dmesg output. |
| 20:13.35 | abrotman | stew: and in the sarge netinst? |
| 20:13.40 | stew | oh, probably not |
| 20:13.42 | kspath | Ozux: Are you asking about only the bot and not the content? |
| 20:13.43 | Spanishguy30 | yes quiet im there |
| 20:13.44 | abrotman | right :) |
| 20:13.55 | Spanishguy30 | but which one is mine? HSF or HCF? |
| 20:14.03 | abrotman | carbon60: how about a nice crappy netgear nic? :) |
| 20:14.05 | tobiask | Nopalin: "dpkg -S /usr/include/stdio.h" gives you the package that contains /usr/include/stdio.h |
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| 20:14.20 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yeah. I don't have anything else handy. :-( |
| 20:14.20 | stew | abrotman: they might not even have any support whatsoever |
| 20:14.22 | tobiask | Nopalin: which is libc6-dev |
| 20:14.33 | stew | abrotman: actually there is a webpage we could check, huh :) |
| 20:14.38 | abrotman | carbon60: ok .. put the e100 in ... should be better |
| 20:14.40 | Ozux | kspath: It's very interesting bot, I'm PHP and want to ask can I write this type Bot for my self in php or no! |
| 20:14.41 | abrotman | stew: there is? |
| 20:14.46 | carbon60 | abrotman: Sure. |
| 20:14.49 | abrotman | stew: not if the firmware is there or not? |
| 20:14.49 | tobiask | Nopalin: and which probably contains all the others you are looking for. |
| 20:14.51 | Nopalin | tobiask very very thanks |
| 20:14.59 | abrotman | !kernel configs |
| 20:14.59 | dpkg | i heard kernel configs is found in /boot/config-* for installed kernels, and a collection of (hopefully currently) available kernel configs can be found at http://vireo.org/~stew/kconfig/ |
| 20:15.02 | Nopalin | i didnt know that |
| 20:15.03 | abrotman | stew: that one? |
| 20:15.06 | stew | abrotman: if there is a TG3 at all, becuase for a while it wan't in the debian kernels at all |
| 20:15.11 | stew | abrotman: becuase of the firmware |
| 20:15.11 | kspath | Ozux: Have you considered treatment for your PHP habit? |
| 20:15.40 | tobiask | Nopalin: you should read "man dpkg" its really got some nifty features. |
| 20:15.49 | abrotman | stew: it is there .. i know that .. but the firmware i'm not sure about |
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| 20:16.10 | Nopalin | tobiask: ok.. hehe, next time |
| 20:17.09 | Nopalin | tobiask: dpkg -S /usr/include/stdio.h dpkg: no se encontró /usr/include/stdio.h. that meas that dpkg dont figure out stdio.h |
| 20:17.58 | tobiask | Nopalin: no that means, you don't have that package installed. sorry, i guess it's not quite the solution you needed. |
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| 20:18.37 | carbon60 | abrotman: Booting. |
| 20:18.38 | Nopalin | tobiask: bu if i install libc6-dev, can i get headers? |
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| 20:18.55 | carbon60 | abrotman: Also, i tried unloading e100 and loading eepro100. Same behaviour. |
| 20:18.57 | Ozux | kspath: I'm sorry my english a little bad and I can't understand exacly what you say. |
| 20:19.05 | carbon60 | Maybe I should put the e100 in another slot? |
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| 20:19.27 | aaron__ | '/ctcp ska|kid xdcc send #5 |
| 20:19.27 | kspath | Ozux: Think of PHP like a dangerous drug habit and seek treatment. |
| 20:19.35 | aaron__ | '/ctcp ska|kid xdcc send #5 |
| 20:19.39 | tobiask | Nopalin: i don't really understand the question. libc6-dev contains the headers for the standard c library, which should be easy to guess. |
| 20:19.43 | aaron__ | '/ctcp ska|kid xdcc send #5 |
| 20:19.52 | aaron__ | '/ctcp ska|kid xdcc send #5 |
| 20:19.53 | aaron__ | '/ctcp ska|kid xdcc send #5 |
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| 20:20.03 | Nopalin | tobiask: ok, thanks, sorry for my english, im learning yet |
| 20:20.23 | Ozux | kspath: Why? dangerous drug! |
| 20:20.32 | tobiask | Nopalin: sorry, did not mean it that way. |
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| 20:21.40 | abrotman | !tell carbon60 about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 20:21.53 | abrotman | carbon60: worth a shot |
| 20:22.06 | carbon60 | Ok, I'll try that. |
| 20:22.23 | abrotman | carbon60: it could be IRQ sharing issues .. IIRC .. i had a severe issues with a sound card and my E60 and IRQ sharing |
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| 20:22.37 | abrotman | carbon60: i had to go in and manually specify IRQ per slot |
| 20:22.46 | carbon60 | abrotman: I know nothing about IRQs. But the BIOS has that option. |
| 20:22.53 | carbon60 | Should I try that? |
| 20:23.01 | Nopalin | tobiask: no problem, i guees with my english, i cant give the idea that i need |
| 20:23.18 | stew | abrotman: your servers don't need sound cards |
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| 20:23.51 | abrotman | stew: it was my workstation(and a damn nice one except AGP was fuckeD) |
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| 20:24.13 | pi_guy | IRQ Issue? whatch out with asterisk, it have serious IRQ sharing problems. Let Asterisk servers with only one IRQ in use, or dont share the e1 card with another card |
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| 20:24.55 | cbr | how can i get a svn dir when i know the dir address in the web-viewer? |
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| 20:25.00 | cbr | in debian svn that is |
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| 20:26.27 | Spanishguy30 | quiet or azar: Which file should i download from here:http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/full/downloads.php |
| 20:26.27 | TeknoJuce | stew: Err http://www.backports.org sarge-backports/main Packages |
| 20:26.27 | TeknoJuce | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.28 | TeknoJuce | Ign http://www.backports.org sarge-backports/main Release |
| 20:26.28 | TeknoJuce | Err http://www.backports.org sarge-backports/main Packages |
| 20:26.28 | TeknoJuce | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:26.46 | AleXerTecH | hi everybody |
| 20:26.51 | nvz | is there some easy way from the shell I can get a usable random like say to choose random options in a script or random lines from a file.. perhaps manipulating the /dev/random or would it be easier to use perl, python, or fortune :P |
| 20:26.53 | AleXerTecH | i have a problem with the evolution from testing |
| 20:26.55 | quiet | Spanishguy30, i have no idea... i don't have a modem |
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| 20:27.06 | AleXerTecH | every time when i wanna look an html email, stuck! |
| 20:27.15 | AleXerTecH | gets frozen |
| 20:27.54 | AleXerTecH | some one? pleease!!! |
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| 20:28.18 | Spanishguy30 | ok quiet i will try with the AMD 64 |
| 20:28.26 | Spanishguy30 | hope it works |
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| 20:29.48 | quiet | Spanishguy30, you have an amd 64 bit machine |
| 20:29.49 | quiet | ? |
| 20:30.03 | Spanishguy30 | yes a new one... |
| 20:30.12 | Spanishguy30 | AMD 64 X2 4200 |
| 20:30.18 | stew | TeknoJuce: http://backports.org/instructions.html will give you a correct deb line |
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| 20:30.43 | quiet | Spanishguy30, and you are using 64-bit debian? |
| 20:30.52 | Spanishguy30 | i s |
| 20:30.55 | Spanishguy30 | i have no idea |
| 20:30.57 | TeknoJuce | Stew thats currently the page im at |
| 20:31.06 | Spanishguy30 | i just installed from a DVD |
| 20:31.08 | TeknoJuce | and where i got that from in the first place |
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| 20:32.47 | Spanishguy30 | quiet: I have Debian Gnu/Linux 3.1r1 |
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| 20:33.02 | quiet | Spanishguy30, yes... but the AMD64 version or the i386 version? |
| 20:33.05 | nvz | imagine that, a randomize-lines package seems to be like fortunes but no need for the special formatting |
| 20:33.22 | Spanishguy30 | i dont know because it came with a magazine |
| 20:33.32 | k31th | wats that cmd that checks hds ? |
| 20:33.33 | Spanishguy30 | whats the difference? |
| 20:33.46 | k31th | ahhh |
| 20:33.52 | k31th | badblocks? |
| 20:33.55 | quiet | Spanishguy30, one is a 64 bit OS... one is a 32 bit OS |
| 20:33.59 | abrotman | or fsck |
| 20:34.09 | stew | TeknoJuce: you either copied the line wrong, or you are having networking problems |
| 20:34.25 | nvz | yep rl, is the ticket to randomized shell scripting without writing a mini script in another language it seems :P |
| 20:34.35 | Spanishguy30 | quiet: mine is working |
| 20:34.39 | TeknoJuce | well theres other packages in that file and it says HIT infront of them |
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| 20:34.45 | TeknoJuce | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main |
| 20:34.46 | Spanishguy30 | i installed it without any warning |
| 20:34.49 | TeknoJuce | im using that line |
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| 20:35.11 | quiet | Spanishguy30, ??? that's okay... the i386 version will instal on amd64 machines.. because they are backwards copatible with 32 bit. |
| 20:35.27 | quiet | Spanishguy30, if you installed Debian i386... you need to download an i386 driver. |
| 20:35.28 | stew | TeknoJuce: then if apt-get update doens't work, you are having networking problems |
| 20:35.39 | nvz | man rl(1) " kill -9 `ps -A | awk '{print $1}' | rl --count=1` Do this as root and see how long your system keeps working. Increase the --count for extra effect." |
| 20:35.41 | Spanishguy30 | ah ok |
| 20:35.46 | nvz | o.O |
| 20:35.47 | Spanishguy30 | thats what im doing |
| 20:35.52 | TeknoJuce | Hit ftp://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main Packages |
| 20:35.56 | TeknoJuce | etc |
| 20:36.30 | TeknoJuce | all the other lines get contact fine just not that one |
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| 20:36.48 | stew | TeknoJuce: what arch are you on? |
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| 20:37.54 | TeknoJuce | arch? |
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| 20:38.33 | stew | TeknoJuce: what does "uname -m" say? |
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| 20:39.00 | TeknoJuce | i686 |
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| 20:39.46 | metellius | so appearantly I can't use xorg version 6.9 after all, and now I want to replace it with a snapshot version 6.8. Is there a way for me to rpelace the package without having aptitude removing all packages it depends on? |
| 20:39.46 | Spanishguy30 | second question: how can i configure the monitor? |
| 20:39.55 | stew | TeknoJuce: does this site work in your web browser: http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/sarge-backports/main/binary-i386/Release |
| 20:40.30 | TeknoJuce | yes |
| 20:40.30 | sbk | have a non-debian question, maybe there'll be some insights here. I'm looking for a graph drawing program, I have a directed graph with about 5000 edges. I tried graphviz and springgraph, but they simply don't even complete, or they generate a big mess of nodes all overlapping each other. Any other tools you might know about? (I've also tried springgraph, with similar results.) |
| 20:40.33 | TeknoJuce | Archive: sarge-backports |
| 20:40.34 | TeknoJuce | etc |
| 20:40.36 | stew | TeknoJuce: don't know what to tell you then |
| 20:40.42 | TeknoJuce | 5lines |
| 20:40.48 | stew | TeknoJuce: paste your entire sources.list to a pastebin |
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| 20:41.03 | shogunx | sbk gnuplot? |
| 20:41.08 | Myon | sbk: did you try all renderers from graphviz? |
| 20:41.28 | sbk | Myon: yes, I tried dot/neato/twopi/circo/fdp |
| 20:41.38 | Myon | k |
| 20:41.50 | Myon | I'm still looking for a sane way to plot http://www.df7cb.de/debian/nm-graph/#manager |
| 20:42.07 | sbk | shogunx: hm, does it do graph layout as well? (this isn't a plot of a graph, rather a graph with nodes and edges (ie, I have the adjacency list) and I want something to lay it out nicely. |
| 20:42.12 | Myon | (and I'm the de facto springgraph upstream... *sigh*) |
| 20:42.30 | Myon | did you try vcg? |
| 20:42.35 | sbk | Myon: ah, ok. I found springgraph wouldn't even converge (it's hovering around 1.1.. 1.2) |
| 20:42.49 | sbk | Myon: no, I'll google for that, thanks for the pointer |
| 20:43.18 | Myon | should work when the graph has some layered structure |
| 20:43.21 | shogunx | sbk try apt-cache show gnuplot and see if it meets your requirements. i have nto used it, just know of it. |
| 20:43.30 | TeknoJuce | stew: http://pastebin.com/654290 |
| 20:43.45 | Myon | though I have to admit that I've only used the commercial version so far (it's developed at a near institute here) |
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| 20:44.27 | sbk | shogunx: ok, thanks |
| 20:44.37 | stew | TeknoJuce: s/debain/debian/ |
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| 20:47.45 | pinky | http://www.playitcybersafe.com/pdfs/Curriculum-CC-2005.pdf |
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| 20:48.05 | pinky | Really funny copyright propaganda comic for kids |
| 20:48.10 | TeknoJuce | stew okay that worked |
| 20:48.19 | TeknoJuce | darn typos |
| 20:48.30 | stew | TeknoJuce: you do actually need those mirrors and security.debian.org lines |
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| 20:49.34 | action09 | hehe nice wiki part on Debian drivers :) |
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| 20:49.46 | dimir | http://bezdelnik.net/foto/11_4/drunk%20(66).jpg |
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| 20:51.21 | TeknoJuce | stew: you mean how i comented them out? |
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| 20:51.50 | ojai | how do you create a repository's Packages.gz file? |
| 20:52.03 | TeknoJuce | stew: i installed mutt what was the point of that was i supposed to replace mutt with the kernel name? |
| 20:52.09 | ojai | is there a way to look at one of the main Debian repository's Makefiles? |
| 20:52.14 | npx | Is there some way to get htmltidy support in unstable's php5 packages? |
| 20:54.02 | stew | TeknoJuce: yes, you want linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
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| 20:54.43 | stew | ojai: /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
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| 20:55.21 | tARGETpRACTICE | anyone know how I can use the X Window System? It says on the site it should be included, but I have no idea how to use it or activate it or anything >_> |
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| 20:55.54 | cva | is there a flag for rm that, while deleting a link, will remove the original file as well? |
| 20:56.04 | stew | tARGETpRACTICE: run aptitude or tasksel and install on of the desktop tasks |
| 20:56.08 | stew | ^on^one |
| 20:56.20 | Kalia | hello |
| 20:56.28 | tARGETpRACTICE | and how do I do that? >_> I'm completely new to Linux |
| 20:56.54 | TeknoJuce | apt-get -t sarge-backports install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 20:57.13 | Kalia | am i alive..? |
| 20:57.17 | stew | tARGETpRACTICE: type "tasksel" |
| 20:57.19 | Nopalin | ye kalia |
| 20:57.22 | Nopalin | hi |
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| 20:57.35 | ojai | stew: I've already got the packages built and in the repository. I've got a Makefile right now in that repo which does a 'dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null > Packages' but I'm having problems with my hosts pulling it down successfully |
| 20:57.52 | Kalia | oh ...this my first ..sort of go at this |
| 20:58.00 | ojai | I've had it around since Woody so I'm just wondering if there's a new and improved way to do it |
| 20:58.18 | Kalia | are you all actually talking to each other |
| 20:58.32 | Nopalin | Kalia: no, only you |
| 20:58.37 | tARGETpRACTICE | hokay, thanks, I'll go try that, I'll be back |
| 20:58.50 | tARGETpRACTICE | if it doesn't work |
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| 20:59.08 | TeknoJuce | stew: http://pastebin.com/654328 |
| 20:59.10 | stew | ojai: that's basically what i'm doing on sarge, dpkg-scanpackages binary /dev/null | gzip -9c > binary/Packages.gz |
| 20:59.13 | Lager | kernel compile question here . . . . Anybody? |
| 20:59.17 | Kalia | oh.. this thing started up and is saying i need to type things |
| 20:59.36 | Kalia | like /msg etc what is that |
| 20:59.38 | Nopalin | Kalia: what kind of things? |
| 21:00.04 | stew | TeknoJuce: "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 yaird" |
| 21:00.14 | ojai | stew: hrm, ok, thanks |
| 21:00.30 | Nopalin | Kalia: may be it started up with some errores |
| 21:00.32 | pjota | hi there, folks |
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| 21:00.38 | stew | ojai: is it creating a packages file? what errors are you getting when running apt-get update? |
| 21:00.44 | Nopalin | ahh you refer to chat? |
| 21:00.45 | npx | repeat: Is there some way to get htmltidy support in unstable's php5 packages? had to go afk for a minute. |
| 21:00.52 | Nopalin | to irc? |
| 21:01.02 | pjota | recently I get an account in a computer |
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| 21:01.13 | Kalia | it says my nickname being used by some one esle and i need to type /msg nickservce identity etc |
| 21:01.20 | pjota | but this account doesn't have home dir |
| 21:01.34 | stew | Kalia: /msg nickserv help |
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| 21:02.00 | Nopalin | Kalia: sorry, i dont know much about this |
| 21:02.04 | ojai | stew: yes, it's creating the Packages file but it's just hanging and eventually times out when it tries to download it. it might actually be apt-cacher come to think of it -- I'll try to pull it down directly |
| 21:02.07 | pjota | I only can see all the files in the system, but no wy to save nothing |
| 21:02.11 | Maulkin | Anyone know of a good, fast httpd that supports basic rewrites? |
| 21:02.17 | TeknoJuce | stew: yaird: Depends: libhtml-template-perl but it is not installable |
| 21:02.31 | TeknoJuce | Depends: libparse-recdescent-perl but it is not installable |
| 21:02.34 | pjota | any way to create a home dir by myself? |
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| 21:03.00 | stew | TeknoJuce: did you put the mirrors.kernel.org deb line back into sources.list and run apt-get update? |
| 21:03.02 | ojai | stew: yeah, it looks like it's an apt-cacher thing. weird though cause it's not hanging on any of the "real" repos |
| 21:03.03 | Kalia | oh... ok do I need to register or something to use this service |
| 21:03.19 | byteshack | I have a pretty complex set of commands that I use that I'd like to put into one file |
| 21:03.20 | TeknoJuce | nope will do |
| 21:03.40 | byteshack | ie: cat foo | MICOMMANDS |
| 21:04.04 | byteshack | where MICOMMANDS = 'foo | bar | grep | blah...' |
| 21:04.17 | Kalia | nopalin ..are you (apologies) a human? am I looking at real people talk? |
| 21:04.29 | byteshack | how can I put that line of piped commands into a script so that I can reuse? |
| 21:04.38 | byteshack | and be able to use it in a pipe? |
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| 21:04.49 | Nopalin | Kalia: yes, i am real, but i dont know much about IRC, i only conect to it |
| 21:05.15 | Nopalin | Kalia: i thinf you are looking for person who have idea that what is IRC |
| 21:05.38 | TeknoJuce | okay seems to be downloading |
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| 21:06.07 | Kalia | oh ok....i will go and look for one.....thanks naplain bye. |
| 21:06.29 | abrotman | why is freenode setting the channel limit instead of debhelper? |
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| 21:06.47 | UdontKnow | abrotman: its not freenode setting the limit |
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| 21:07.06 | UdontKnow | abrotman: its irc protocol syncing |
| 21:07.12 | abrotman | UdontKnow: ah ok |
| 21:07.22 | UdontKnow | abrotman: we didnt set the limit, it was just set again to whatever it was already |
| 21:07.26 | abrotman | UdontKnow: i thought lilo was imposing his will :) |
| 21:07.30 | stew | byteshack: create a script: /usr/local/bin/mycommand that contains 2 lines: #!/bin/sh \n foo | bar | grep | blah ; then chmod +x /usr/local/bin/mycommand |
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| 21:07.47 | UdontKnow | abrotman: if lilo did it, it would say lilo, not irc.freenode.net |
| 21:07.56 | UdontKnow | ;) |
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| 21:08.00 | abrotman | UdontKnow: you never know what mystical powers lilo has |
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| 21:08.08 | byteshack | stew, and that will just be able to work in a pipe? |
| 21:08.13 | stew | byteshack: yes |
| 21:08.14 | SimonRaven | most people in this channel are |
| 21:08.19 | UdontKnow | abrotman: our network doesnt have those obscure commands ;) |
| 21:08.19 | dli | abrotman, thanks |
| 21:08.27 | byteshack | cool, thanks |
| 21:08.29 | abrotman | UdontKnow: gotcha |
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| 21:08.48 | tARGETpRACTICE | okay, so tasksel didn't work |
| 21:08.56 | abrotman | eww .. tasksel ? |
| 21:09.09 | tARGETpRACTICE | that's what someone suggested a few minutes ago |
| 21:09.12 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: do you want kde or gnome or something else ? |
| 21:09.19 | tARGETpRACTICE | to get X Window System working |
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| 21:09.27 | stew | tARGETpRACTICE: can you be more specific than "didn't work" |
| 21:09.29 | abrotman | no kidding .. gnome/kde or something else? |
| 21:09.38 | tARGETpRACTICE | a menu came up |
| 21:09.43 | SimonRaven | good question |
| 21:09.43 | tARGETpRACTICE | but I couldn't choose anything |
| 21:09.48 | abrotman | did you try the space bar? |
| 21:09.54 | tARGETpRACTICE | most buttons wouldn't respond and those that did tended to just stop it |
| 21:10.06 | SimonRaven | 1irssi is still having issue :( |
| 21:10.09 | tARGETpRACTICE | ...don't tell me it's the one key I didn't try -_- |
| 21:10.12 | thingfish | hehe |
| 21:10.15 | SimonRaven | |
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| 21:10.24 | tARGETpRACTICE | seriously, it's space bar? >_> |
| 21:10.47 | thingfish | tARGETpRACTICE: arrow keys to navigate (in tasksel), spacebar to select. |
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| 21:10.54 | tARGETpRACTICE | oi... |
| 21:10.57 | tARGETpRACTICE | I figured it'd be like |
| 21:11.01 | tARGETpRACTICE | enter or something >_> |
| 21:11.04 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 21:11.14 | tARGETpRACTICE | *sigh* now I get to reboot and try again |
| 21:11.14 | TeknoJuce | stew: http://pastebin.com/654365 |
| 21:11.23 | simonrvn | core dumped on top of it .... |
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| 21:11.28 | TeknoJuce | i just did it twice it downloaded the first time |
| 21:11.29 | tARGETpRACTICE | hokay, then, hopefully I won't be back again, at least not for a while |
| 21:11.35 | abrotman | tARGETpRACTICE: can you use a nick with less CAPS?!?! |
| 21:11.39 | TeknoJuce | and then told me to run apt-get update |
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| 21:12.00 | dimir | !nickometer tARGETpRACTICE |
| 21:12.01 | dpkg | 'tARGETpRACTICE' is 99.9358% lame, dimir |
| 21:12.04 | thingfish | kids these days... |
| 21:12.05 | dimir | :-D |
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| 21:12.18 | simonrvn | bunch young snots :P |
| 21:12.20 | [bulio_II] | for my wireless USB adapter |
| 21:12.25 | [bulio_II] | I would install this? |
| 21:12.25 | [bulio_II] | http://smc.com/index.cfm?event=downloads.doSearchCriteria&localeCode=EN_CAN&knowsPartNumber=false&productCategory=5&userPartNumber=&modelNumber=1467&partNumber=3182&downloadType=1&os=12 |
| 21:12.33 | dimir | !enter |
| 21:12.33 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
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| 21:12.42 | [bulio_II] | (specifically 01/01/2004 SMC9552tx/SMC9562tx EN 106 kb |
| 21:12.42 | [bulio_II] | SMC9552tx/SMC9562tx Linux kb |
| 21:12.43 | thingfish | at least he's inside messing with linux, rather than associating with a bunch of hip-hoppers or whatever. |
| 21:12.46 | stew | TeknoJuce: fix the debain misspelling again and run apt-get update |
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| 21:13.30 | madclicker | is there a way to recover deleted just deleted files in ext3, like undelete? |
| 21:13.35 | stew | TeknoJuce: and what does "apt-cache policy yaird" say for Installed:? |
| 21:13.48 | [bulio_II] | anyone? |
| 21:13.51 | simonrvn | madclicker: yeh. backups |
| 21:13.51 | thingfish | madclicker: yes, take it to a professional disaster recovery firm. |
| 21:13.54 | stew | madclicker: no, other than grepping the raw /dev |
| 21:14.16 | stew | madclicker: becuase ext3 is journalling it actually zero's out the inodes |
| 21:15.39 | stew | TeknoJuce: you could also try initramfs-tools instead of yaird |
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| 21:18.12 | TeknoJuce | stew: tried both http://pastebin.com/654378 |
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| 21:20.09 | stew | TeknoJuce: you might have to upgrade to 2.6.12 first |
| 21:20.27 | stew | TeknoJuce: i dont' think i relized you were on 2.4 |
| 21:20.39 | juak | Hola a todos |
| 21:20.57 | TeknoJuce | how do i go about doing that? |
| 21:21.09 | juak | someone knows a channel in spanish? |
| 21:21.12 | abrotman | !es |
| 21:21.12 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:21.25 | juak | thanks dpkg ;) |
| 21:21.25 | dpkg | de rien, juak |
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| 21:22.01 | TeknoJuce | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.13 | TeknoJuce | stew: that didnt werk |
| 21:22.30 | streuner | !didn't work |
| 21:22.30 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 21:22.37 | npx | are there known issues for users of apache2 when upgrading from stable to unstable? |
| 21:23.21 | TeknoJuce | its not a valid package name |
| 21:23.29 | TeknoJuce | i just guessed |
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| 21:24.01 | carbon60 | abrotman: Booted from that d-i CD. Hangs probing the IDE controller for the CDROM. :-( |
| 21:24.12 | abrotman | carbon60: the 2.6.15? |
| 21:24.50 | stew | TeknoJuce: try 2.6.14-2-686 |
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| 21:25.03 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yeah. |
| 21:25.03 | npx | http://pastebin.com/654393 - does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 21:25.05 | abrotman | carbon60: are you actually going to use this for a server? |
| 21:25.12 | stew | man unless they figure this problem out, upgrading from sarge to etch is going to be a nightmare for a lot of people |
| 21:25.19 | stew | i guess they'll have to figure it out though |
| 21:25.26 | carbon60 | abrotman: Well, for some internal sundries, yeah. Unless I give up tonight. ;-) |
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| 21:25.37 | abrotman | carbon60: there are other unofficial ones .. |
| 21:25.46 | abrotman | carbon60: you had the same issue with the e100 card? |
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| 21:26.20 | carbon60 | abrotman: didn't get that far. |
| 21:26.25 | abrotman | oh |
| 21:26.38 | carbon60 | But I should try it. |
| 21:26.40 | carbon60 | Hold on. |
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| 21:29.26 | abrotman | simonrvn: why not in #-ot ? |
| 21:29.39 | vramin | I need some help finding or finding out how to write a .info file for sybase_ct.so on a debian system (stable). I get this message: Error: sybase_ct.so does not have a corresponding .info file - when attempting to update libapache-mod-perl and libapache-mod-php4. I do access an MSSQL server from the debian box. |
| 21:30.22 | TeknoJuce | stew: http://pastebin.com/654408 |
| 21:31.07 | simonrvn | because i'm not welcome there, and i don't want to have to put up with racism. |
| 21:31.13 | thingfish | oh hey, that's right, we have a new DPL. |
| 21:31.15 | abrotman | simonrvn: eh? |
| 21:31.30 | abrotman | thingfish: and if you can figure out how a DM differs from a DD .. i'd love to know |
| 21:31.48 | abrotman | simonrvn: apparently i missed something? |
| 21:31.52 | thingfish | abrotman: my poor brain can't figure anything out anymore. |
| 21:32.04 | thingfish | I exist in a state of perpetual puzzlement. |
| 21:32.04 | abrotman | thingfish: lay off the whiskey/pot :) |
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| 21:32.19 | simonrvn | yes you did |
| 21:32.20 | vramin | thingfish: too much zappa in your youth? |
| 21:32.27 | thingfish | abrotman: If I thought it would help, I would. |
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| 21:32.29 | abrotman | simonrvn: care to elaborate in /msg ? |
| 21:32.53 | dli | abrotman, any usb installation image for downloading? |
| 21:32.58 | thingfish | !win vramin for recognizing the zappa reference |
| 21:32.59 | dpkg | Congratulations, vramin for recognizing the zappa reference! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 21:33.00 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 21:33.06 | abrotman | !usb-install |
| 21:33.06 | dpkg | somebody said usb-install was Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 21:33.08 | abrotman | like that? |
| 21:33.11 | thingfish | vramin: I still listen! |
| 21:33.29 | vramin | thingfish: you and me both |
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| 21:33.41 | x_men_4 | canal de debian en espańol cual es |
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| 21:34.34 | thingfish | x_men_4: #debian-es |
| 21:34.51 | carbon60 | abrotman: Dammit, the net drivers are on the cd, can't load them. :-( |
| 21:34.55 | sobersabre | hi, I have a bad ram issue. The reason is not the bad ram, but the mobo. |
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| 21:35.11 | abrotman | carbon60: for e100 ? |
| 21:35.19 | dli | abrotman, the only problem, it's useless for windows users, you need linux to make the usb installation stick |
| 21:35.27 | thingfish | sobersabre: so how can #debian help? time to spend some money, sounds like to me. |
| 21:35.31 | abrotman | dli: how so? |
| 21:35.38 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yeah. |
| 21:36.01 | sobersabre | thingfish: maybe you will listen to my wonderings... |
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| 21:36.17 | dli | abrotman, the howto is for linux |
| 21:36.25 | thingfish | sobersabre: heck, I'll listen to about anything. For awhile. |
| 21:36.31 | abrotman | carbon60: there's always floppies! |
| 21:36.37 | thingfish | even country and western. |
| 21:36.40 | abrotman | dli: which part? |
| 21:36.41 | carbon60 | grrr. |
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| 21:36.57 | carbon60 | I don't understand why this thing is such a PITA. I've done so many installs without problems! |
| 21:37.04 | abrotman | carbon60: i'd be checking the IRQ stuff |
| 21:37.04 | dli | abrotman, mkdosfs syslinux |
| 21:37.11 | sobersabre | I want to understand what can be a reason for such a stupid thing: the bad memory starts just where the ram is shared with vga card. |
| 21:37.12 | dli | zcat |
| 21:37.17 | dli | abrotman, or, zcat |
| 21:37.23 | TeknoJuce | does unstable or testing use 2.6 kernel? |
| 21:37.28 | carbon60 | abrotman: Yes, one more thing to try: the BIOS has a Smart or Fixed IRQ routing. |
| 21:37.34 | thingfish | sobersabre: sounds like you're heading in #hardware direction. |
| 21:37.37 | sobersabre | TeknoJuce both |
| 21:37.41 | abrotman | dli: i'm pretty sure zcat is in cygwin .. and the mkdosfs can be achieved with windows format util |
| 21:37.46 | sobersabre | thingfish sounds fair. |
| 21:37.47 | sobersabre | :) |
| 21:37.48 | abrotman | carbon60: ew :) |
| 21:37.51 | dli | sobersabre, if it's mobo :( not much luck, you may try to run at slower ram speed |
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| 21:38.03 | thingfish | sobersabre: I mean I'm decent with hardware, but not *that* decent. |
| 21:38.19 | sobersabre | dli, GOOD POINT!!!! |
| 21:38.29 | sobersabre | I haven't tried this so far! |
| 21:38.35 | npx | http://pastebin.com/654393 can someone provide me with tips on how to fix this? |
| 21:38.41 | TeknoJuce | so if i install i will be running 2.6 kernal that will probably be esier they trying to get it on stable way to much trouble |
| 21:38.41 | thingfish | that sounds like a shot in the dark, but... |
| 21:38.45 | [bulio_II] | once I format my root partition, slackware is gone ocmpletely, right? |
| 21:38.49 | [bulio_II] | *completely |
| 21:38.50 | dli | abrotman, that means to install cygwin first :( why not just a fat16 disk image? |
| 21:39.15 | abrotman | dli: well .. at least it's doable! |
| 21:39.39 | dli | sobersabre, still very unlikely it might save you from buying a new mobo/machine |
| 21:39.49 | [bulio_II] | does debian sarge come with NDISwrapper? |
| 21:40.09 | abrotman | !find ndiswrapper sarge |
| 21:40.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ndiswrapper' (4 of 8): (/usr/src/ndiswrapper-source.tar.bz2) in misc/ndiswrapper-source ;; (/usr/share/modass/packages/ndiswrapper-source) in devel/module-assistant ;; (/usr/sbin/{ndiswrapper|ndiswrapper-buginfo}) in misc/ndiswrapper-utils ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-k7/misc/ndiswrapper.ko) in net/ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.8-2-k7. |
| 21:40.30 | [bulio_II] | does it come pre-installed? |
| 21:40.46 | streuner | [bulio_II]: there is a HOWTO about at there website |
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| 21:41.00 | streuner | [bulio_II]: ndiswrapper.sf.net |
| 21:41.09 | streuner | search for debian |
| 21:41.21 | npx | apache2-mpm-perchild: Depends: libldap2 (>= 2.1.17-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 21:41.26 | npx | has anyone seen this before? |
| 21:41.27 | [bulio_II] | and put it on a CD and read it on the PC I wanna install NDIS on>? |
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| 21:44.46 | k31th | Anyone know any decent ipv6 shell hosts ? |
| 21:45.42 | streuner | [bulio_II]: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/InstallDebian |
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| 21:46.03 | metellius | is it possible to remove a package and not it's dependencies? |
| 21:46.16 | npx | holy shit im about to pull my hair out |
| 21:46.21 | npx | is there still a packages.list? |
| 21:46.44 | npx | or; where is the list of installed packages and their dependencies? |
| 21:47.28 | streuner | [bulio_II]: you'll need a working i-net connection _OR_ you burn those debs on CDRW and use apt-cdrom add |
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| 21:47.43 | EdLin | metellius: if you installed them with aptitude and remove them with aptitude it often is possible. |
| 21:47.55 | EdLin | metellius: another possibility is using something like deborphan |
| 21:48.42 | EdLin | npx: apt-cache search, or use aptitude or synaptic, or http://packages.debian.org |
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| 21:50.01 | metellius | EdLin: how can deborphan help me? |
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| 21:51.00 | EdLin | metellius: apt-cache show deborphan. I've got to run, hope this helps. |
| 21:51.12 | abrotman | !deborphan |
| 21:51.12 | dpkg | deborphan is a package that will tell you what library packages you have installed that nothing's using. If you want remove all packages use 'deborphan | xargs apt-get -y remove --purge' |
| 21:51.26 | abrotman | man deborphan will yield other options |
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| 21:52.11 | sgeigerbot | What can I use to detect the type of filesystem in use on a partition? |
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| 21:52.42 | sgeigerbot | I can't decide whether my filesystems are corrupt or just simply non-existent...or, perhaps, something other than what I normally use (ext2 or ext3). |
| 21:52.42 | streuner | mount? |
| 21:52.43 | npx | W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org unstable Release: Could not execute /usr/bin/gpgv to verify signature (is gnupg installed?) |
| 21:52.43 | npx | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 21:52.52 | npx | are things not getting updated because of this? |
| 21:53.15 | sgeigerbot | streuner: didn't worth with ext2 or ext3...and this is one of my old drives, so I have reason to believe it is ext3 or ext2. |
| 21:53.24 | dli | npx: yeah, the stupid error message |
| 21:53.35 | npx | dli, yeah man I don't have 'gpg' on my system |
| 21:53.42 | npx | so adding the key manually won't work =/ |
| 21:54.11 | metellius | EdLin: thanks, but i kinda wanted the opposite, to be able to orphanize packages :) |
| 21:54.15 | dli | npx: maybe you can download the deb from debian.org manually |
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| 21:55.06 | carbon60 | abrotman: Switching IRQ Locking from Smart to Fixed makes it work. |
| 21:55.15 | carbon60 | abrotman: Now to get the RAID array detected. :-) |
| 21:55.17 | dli | npx: "apt-get -f install gnupg" and go to the debian website to download those package files |
| 21:55.29 | abrotman | carbon60: adaptec eh? :) |
| 21:55.40 | carbon60 | Yeah. |
| 21:55.48 | thingfish | I wonder why deborphan would say libc6-i686 is not being used. |
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| 21:56.02 | thingfish | I kinda think it is. |
| 21:56.05 | sfullenwider | What's the normal/average speed desktop these days? |
| 21:56.17 | abrotman | thingfish: nothing depends on it .. it depends on libc6 |
| 21:56.26 | thingfish | sfullenwider: probably P4 2.8 or so... |
| 21:56.31 | abrotman | sfullenwider: african swallow .. roughly |
| 21:56.46 | npx | holy hell I'm at the 9th layer of dependencies with no end in sight |
| 21:56.50 | thingfish | abrotman: what don't you know the answer to? |
| 21:56.51 | vramin | I just moved sybase_ct.so out of the the apache/1.3 folder while I ran apt-get and it quit throwing the .info file error. Still not sure how to write one, but I guess I have a workaround. Have a good day everyone. |
| 21:57.19 | abrotman | thingfish: "Why hasn't anyone assassinated the idiot box in the oval office yet?" |
| 21:57.26 | thingfish | oh god yes |
| 21:57.34 | thingfish | thought of that many times myself |
| 21:57.36 | dli | npx: ask the debian developpers, they made the stupid mistake |
| 21:57.38 | metellius | is there some place where I can research on the stability of different versions of a package? |
| 21:57.59 | simonrvn | "what, no impeachment today?" |
| 21:58.07 | thingfish | I pray for it every day. |
| 21:58.14 | thingfish | I want that man in prison. |
| 21:58.23 | abrotman | metellius: the BTS is about it |
| 21:58.38 | abrotman | npx: did you mix sources? |
| 21:58.38 | npx | what in the fuck does libldap need libusb for?? |
| 21:58.55 | npx | nah man I just dist-upgraded from stable to unstable, only one line in sources.list |
| 21:59.06 | abrotman | did you do a dist-upgrade? |
| 21:59.10 | dli | npx: or download gnupg source, compile it yourself |
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| 21:59.32 | abrotman | i wonder if sarge->sid direct is possible these days |
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| 21:59.41 | _rene_ | it is |
| 21:59.45 | _rene_ | not currently, though |
| 21:59.47 | dli | npx: now, stop blaming debian, you asked for trouble by upgrading (dist-upgrade) to unstable |
| 21:59.48 | abrotman | that said .. if you're using sid .. you should be able to figure out dependency issues on your own |
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| 22:00.07 | abrotman | see .. even _rene_ says it's not possible! |
| 22:00.11 | _rene_ | npx: god, if you use unstable, lern live with it |
| 22:00.20 | _rene_ | npx: it has it's name not just for fun |
| 22:00.41 | abrotman | its |
| 22:00.41 | npx | when did I blame anyone? |
| 22:00.42 | anabain | does anybody know why when entering # tar --same-owner -zcvpf home.tgz /home some directories are changed its owner from user to root? |
| 22:00.54 | _rene_ | ok, and it's as I guessed |
| 22:00.56 | simonrvn | npx: it doesn't |
| 22:01.02 | thingfish | !blame npx |
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| 22:01.03 | _rene_ | libldap need libgnutls12 which is boken currently |
| 22:01.10 | npx | the insane level of dependencies that gnupg requires is just boggling my mind |
| 22:01.13 | _rene_ | fix already in incoming. libtasn was broken |
| 22:01.21 | _rene_ | welcome in sid :-P |
| 22:01.25 | simonrvn | should be in by now |
| 22:01.33 | npx | so in all likelihood this will be working tomorrow? I just want modern versions of apache2 and php5 |
| 22:01.35 | dli | npx: time to download an etch installation disk, which is what you want |
| 22:01.41 | npx | once I get them I probably won't dist-upgrade for ages |
| 22:01.41 | _rene_ | simonrvn: nope, just went out of NEW |
| 22:01.45 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 22:01.57 | simonrvn | uploaded too late i guess |
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| 22:02.27 | [bulio_II] | is 667Mhz CPU and 128MB ram enough for debian with Gnome? |
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| 22:02.45 | simonrvn | it's tight (RAM) |
| 22:02.51 | streuner | use something else |
| 22:02.53 | [bulio_II] | I know |
| 22:02.54 | _rene_ | simonrvn: approved too late. not to mention the initial upload was s390 so you'd have had to wait for the buildds anyway |
| 22:03.03 | simonrvn | oh my, ok |
| 22:03.10 | [bulio_II] | How about Xfce? |
| 22:03.11 | streuner | not KDE or GNOME if you have 128 MB RAM |
| 22:03.14 | dli | npx: testing and unstable has the same apache2 (2.0.55-4) |
| 22:03.30 | simonrvn | [bulio_II]: should be ok |
| 22:03.47 | simonrvn | and 2.2 is being worked on AFAIK |
| 22:03.54 | dli | [bulio_II], try fluxbox |
| 22:04.02 | [bulio_II] | I don't like flux |
| 22:04.10 | dli | [bulio_II], icewm |
| 22:04.26 | sfullenwider | as long as I don't use that annoying gnome file manager everything runs fine. |
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| 22:04.46 | dli | sfullenwider, 384mb+400mhz works better than 128mb+667mhz |
| 22:04.46 | menko | [bulio_II]: Try rox with fluxbox/openbox, extremely fast low memory easy to use combo |
| 22:04.51 | sTrett | len |
| 22:04.53 | sTrett | napper |
| 22:04.55 | sTrett | godoslar |
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| 22:05.05 | simonrvn | ECHAN |
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| 22:05.14 | kspath | [bulio_II]: There is a nice wm called ion |
| 22:05.31 | dli | menko, xffm is okay, rox does't work well for me |
| 22:05.33 | kspath | [bulio_II]: ion3 and openbox3 are nice |
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| 22:06.08 | xstasi | hi |
| 22:06.18 | sobersabre | [bulio_II] I don't see what's wrong with fvwm ... |
| 22:06.18 | menko | dli: yeh it took a little bit of getting used to |
| 22:06.39 | dli | menko, no, it doesn't display filenames in Chinese correctly |
| 22:06.44 | xstasi | i have a little problem on debian sid on my amd64 |
| 22:06.48 | xstasi | i'm using official repos |
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| 22:07.06 | menko | dli: ah i see |
| 22:07.09 | xstasi | libgnutls12 depends on libtasn1-2 |
| 22:07.16 | xstasi | but libtasn1-2 conflicts with libgnutls12 |
| 22:07.18 | xstasi | is this a known issue? |
| 22:07.27 | simonrvn | yes. put the whole lot on hold |
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| 22:07.38 | sTrett | ţoparlar size diom a.q gavurlarý |
| 22:07.40 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:07.42 | uzman | SElamun Aleykum |
| 22:07.42 | uzman | :d |
| 22:07.42 | sTrett | uzman |
| 22:07.43 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:07.47 | uzman | stray_ |
| 22:07.48 | xstasi | simonrvn: talking with me? |
| 22:07.50 | uzman | sTrett |
| 22:07.54 | sTrett | hi |
| 22:07.54 | uzman | hapsinin amýna koyým |
| 22:07.54 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:07.55 | simonrvn | you can always go fetch a new libtasn* from incoming.d.o if you want |
| 22:07.57 | uzman | sna ßýsý olmasýn |
| 22:07.57 | uzman | d |
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| 22:08.02 | sTrett | :)))))))))) |
| 22:08.05 | sTrett | len |
| 22:08.07 | sTrett | ne limit |
| 22:08.09 | sTrett | koyuyon |
| 22:08.11 | sTrett | amus |
| 22:08.11 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:08.12 | uzman | :DDD |
| 22:08.16 | uzman | 785 a.q |
| 22:08.17 | uzman | lýmýte ßak |
| 22:08.18 | uzman | :d |
| 22:08.25 | simonrvn | we don't get to participate? |
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| 22:08.34 | sTrett | ne diyon lan simonrvn |
| 22:08.36 | sTrett | turkce |
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| 22:08.37 | xstasi | simonrvn: there is no package for amd64 :/ |
| 22:08.37 | sTrett | konus |
| 22:08.39 | sTrett | gavat |
| 22:08.40 | sTrett | :DD |
| 22:08.48 | simonrvn | !tr |
| 22:08.48 | dpkg | i heard tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 22:08.53 | sTrett | aha |
| 22:08.56 | sTrett | reklam yaptý |
| 22:08.57 | tarzeau | heh |
| 22:08.58 | uzman | sTrett And Ý From Ýn turkey... |
| 22:08.58 | xstasi | well there's no package at all |
| 22:08.59 | sTrett | atýn la sunu |
| 22:09.01 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:09.02 | uzman | in Ýstanßul.. |
| 22:09.08 | sTrett | :))))))))) |
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| 22:09.09 | simonrvn | xstasi: ok |
| 22:09.17 | uzman | :D |
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| 22:09.29 | MyStyLe | nasýl ýyýmý ßle |
| 22:09.29 | MyStyLe | :d |
| 22:09.29 | frank_farmer | Trying to figure out which driver to use for my ASUS K8N-VM with integrated realtek 8201 network controller |
| 22:09.32 | sTrett | simonrvn evet !TR |
| 22:09.35 | c0rrupt` | how can i chroot a user into a certain directory? |
| 22:09.36 | sTrett | yes Tr |
| 22:09.36 | frank_farmer | Any ideas? |
| 22:09.42 | sTrett | lan ţikik |
| 22:09.42 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:09.48 | MyStyLe | :)))) |
| 22:09.56 | simonrvn | sorry, i don't grok turkish |
| 22:09.58 | frank_farmer | Trying to figure out which network driver to use for my ASUS K8N-VM with integrated realtek 8201 network controller |
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| 22:10.02 | sTrett | MyStyLe motd |
| 22:10.03 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:10.07 | MyStyLe | <simonrvn> sorry, i don't grok turkish |
| 22:10.08 | MyStyLe | :) |
| 22:10.08 | dli | c0rrupt`, chroot at login? |
| 22:10.09 | frank_farmer | (sorry, left "Network" out |
| 22:10.09 | MyStyLe | oyyy:d |
| 22:10.15 | c0rrupt` | yea |
| 22:10.25 | c0rrupt` | so that all that user can access is that directory and above |
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| 22:10.50 | MyStyLe | i F u ck England And SWiss We Are The Champions.. |
| 22:10.50 | sTrett | MyStyLe aga burasý ne böle bi bilgin varmý |
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| 22:10.53 | MyStyLe | :) |
| 22:10.56 | MyStyLe | sTrett fena:D |
| 22:10.58 | MyStyLe | undernet |
| 22:10.59 | sTrett | oyooyoyooy |
| 22:10.59 | abrotman | english! |
| 22:11.00 | sTrett | :DD |
| 22:11.03 | MyStyLe | in ßýraz daha ufagý |
| 22:11.03 | MyStyLe | :D |
| 22:11.06 | abrotman | sTrett: speak english |
| 22:11.07 | simonrvn | that's a lot of people to fuck |
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| 22:11.07 | dli | c0rrupt`, this is for gentoo, should work for debian, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_chroot_login |
| 22:11.09 | abrotman | MyStyLe: same for you |
| 22:11.14 | simonrvn | ~40 million |
| 22:11.31 | MyStyLe | simonrvn |
| 22:11.33 | MyStyLe | Yeeas |
| 22:11.44 | MyStyLe | i fuck 40 million People:D |
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| 22:11.51 | abrotman | MyStyLe: do you hvae a debian question? |
| 22:11.53 | Ronin | day cares in session again i see |
| 22:12.00 | abrotman | daycare's ? |
| 22:12.02 | MyStyLe | roel- Hassia.. |
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| 22:12.14 | Ronin | children on computers in here again abrotman |
| 22:12.14 | MyStyLe | abrotman Ý don^t |
| 22:12.16 | sTrett | konusan bot |
| 22:12.17 | simonrvn | !tell MyStyLe -about enter |
| 22:12.17 | sTrett | tamam ama erken diyilmi telefon için |
| 22:12.19 | sTrett | :D |
| 22:12.29 | MyStyLe | sTrett |
| 22:12.29 | sTrett | yaa iţte öle .. |
| 22:12.29 | MyStyLe | :DD |
| 22:12.46 | c0rrupt` | is there an easier way if i just wana do this with say..proftpd |
| 22:12.46 | sTrett | sýkýldýysan bye de be güzelim |
| 22:12.52 | abrotman | sTrett and MyStyLe: please speak english .. and ask your debian-related question |
| 22:12.52 | sTrett | yaa iţte öle .. |
| 22:13.00 | simonrvn | c0rrupt`: it has facilities to do that |
| 22:13.00 | anabain | I have a debian question: why # tar --same-owner -zcvpf home.tgz /home does change to root owner some of users' files? |
| 22:13.00 | sTrett | ne oldu ţimdi sýkýldýnmý? |
| 22:13.03 | MyStyLe | abrotman |
| 22:13.03 | MyStyLe | :D |
| 22:13.07 | MyStyLe | ýngýlýzce |
| 22:13.07 | abrotman | !ops sTrett and MyStyLe |
| 22:13.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: sTrett and MyStyLe |
| 22:13.08 | sTrett | yaa iţte öle .. |
| 22:13.10 | MyStyLe | konusun lutfen dýo |
| 22:13.10 | MyStyLe | :D |
| 22:13.10 | sTrett | MyStyLe konu bul konuţalým.. |
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| 22:13.14 | c0rrupt` | yea |
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| 22:13.17 | Ronin | another day and more trolls in #debian , sad really |
| 22:13.18 | c0rrupt` | should i just read tha man |
| 22:13.18 | sTrett | yaa iţte öle .. |
| 22:13.25 | abrotman | gravity: different IPs |
| 22:13.25 | sTrett | yaa iţte öle .. |
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| 22:13.34 | abrotman | gravity: thank you |
| 22:13.37 | abrotman | !beer gravity |
| 22:13.37 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 22:13.37 | gravity | No problem |
| 22:13.43 | abrotman | gravity: you broke unstable! |
| 22:13.47 | gravity | \o/ |
| 22:13.52 | simonrvn | was getting dizzying |
| 22:13.52 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.12 | simonrvn | damn i broked \o/ dude :( |
| 22:14.25 | simonrvn | \o/ |
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| 22:15.15 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.21 | simonrvn | / \ |
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| 22:15.27 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:15.38 | buu | Hrm. How do you cups to print postscript? |
| 22:15.47 | simonrvn | *grin* |
| 22:16.01 | simonrvn | buu: start with a coffee |
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| 22:16.12 | simonrvn | here we go again |
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| 22:16.27 | simonrvn | MyStyLe (n=BoraScrp@85.107.123.2) TurK_HacK_TeaM (n=BoraScrp@85.107.123.2) |
| 22:16.35 | simonrvn | uh oh |
| 22:16.36 | xstasi | ... |
| 22:16.38 | chealer | abrotman: what was that beer for? is X11R8 uploaded yet? dpkg is on a tight budget, I thought I already gave him a beer for X11R7 |
| 22:16.51 | simonrvn | !ops 85.107.123.2 has bots |
| 22:16.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: 85.107.123.2 has bots |
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| 22:17.03 | simonrvn | thanks |
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| 22:17.13 | xstasi | simonrvn: we should "ph33r" them, they're mirkforcing us. |
| 22:17.18 | simonrvn | heheh |
| 22:17.33 | simonrvn | ohnoz!!11!! the dreaded mirc |
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| 22:17.44 | gravity | Rock |
| 22:17.52 | simonrvn | came in on another ip |
| 22:17.55 | sTrett | cane |
| 22:17.57 | sTrett | burdayým |
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| 22:18.01 | sTrett | :D |
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| 22:18.07 | xstasi | damn they have so much ips... |
| 22:18.09 | xstasi | :/ |
| 22:18.20 | simonrvn | evading a ban... calls for a perma ban ... |
| 22:18.32 | dondelelcaro | simonrvn: they're being klined... |
| 22:18.38 | simonrvn | i noticed ;) |
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| 22:18.40 | abrotman | did turkey win the world cup or something ? |
| 22:19.04 | dli | abrotman, turkish also floods #gentoo |
| 22:19.09 | simonrvn | *shrug*. seems like they won something |
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| 22:19.18 | Phated | Ooo, flooding. |
| 22:19.25 | abrotman | yay .. again! |
| 22:19.40 | Heart | hello |
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| 22:20.07 | abrotman | oh just kick him again |
| 22:20.26 | c0rrupt` | what command can i use to display what groups users are in |
| 22:20.28 | simonrvn | looks like xorg 7 just hit sid |
| 22:20.35 | abrotman | c0rrupt`: oddly .. groups |
| 22:20.36 | dli | c0rrupt`, id |
| 22:20.38 | abrotman | simonrvn: blame gravity! |
| 22:20.46 | simonrvn | !blame gravity |
| 22:20.51 | c0rrupt` | looks good thanks |
| 22:20.52 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 22:20.57 | abrotman | gravity: btw .. how did you forget to append "Batman" to your blog title ? |
| 22:21.08 | gravity | hahaha |
| 22:21.22 | simonrvn | s,hahaha,oops, |
| 22:21.25 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 22:21.33 | xstasi | ehr |
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| 22:21.45 | xstasi | Your version of libtasn1-2 (0.3.1-1) is newer than that in Debian! Do you still want to file a report [y|N|q|?]? |
| 22:21.48 | xstasi | is he nuts? |
| 22:21.49 | simonrvn | ... |
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| 22:22.00 | nvz | hmm I got a list of unsorted names on stdin and wc -l shows 63 but piped through sort -u it shows 60.. there are no duplicates I am fairly certain of that o.O |
| 22:22.14 | nvz | strange |
| 22:23.29 | abrotman | nvz: there are duplicates |
| 22:24.05 | simonrvn | sort -u is very uniq |
| 22:24.08 | nvz | no, there are not :P |
| 22:24.21 | frank_farmer | Trying to figure out which network driver to use for my ASUS K8N-VM with integrated realtek 8201 network controller. Any ideas? |
| 22:25.08 | c0rrupt` | im trying to use proftpd's built in chroot jail feature, but its not working.. im using the exact syntax as stated on proftpds doc website.. any ideas |
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| 22:25.23 | nvz | I made a sample data spreadsheet in text/csv format text deliminer "" and field delimiter , with names in it and each name is unique. some have variant spellings of course..as there are often multiple spellings for the same name |
| 22:25.34 | abrotman | nvz: i don't believe oyu .. paste it in #debian! |
| 22:25.45 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 22:25.46 | abrotman | dpkg: can you keep count of how many times i say oyu? |
| 22:25.54 | nvz | I wonder how I can make it show me what the duplicates are.. /me checks uniq and sort manpage |
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| 22:25.59 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 22:26.02 | simonrvn | !yuostats |
| 22:26.05 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:26.10 | abrotman | nvz: i think uniq can |
| 22:26.21 | abrotman | nvz: -D |
| 22:26.30 | yoo | How do for an nuser can access to my partition shfs on client ? |
| 22:26.36 | yoo | How do for an user can access to my partition shfs on client ? |
| 22:26.40 | yoo | sorry |
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| 22:27.58 | nvz | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/654526 |
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| 22:28.14 | Nwallins | hello. i am trying to add a printer using the cups web UI, and I'm not sure which "Device" to choose (e.g. AppSocket, LPD, etc.) The printer is a Xerox Phaser 1235 that has its own ip. |
| 22:28.49 | nvz | abrotman: tr "," "\n" | grep \" | sed -e "s/\"//g" | sort -u | wc -l something like that I was doing |
| 22:29.05 | nvz | abrotman: without the sort, or just the -u I get 3 less results |
| 22:29.09 | carbon60 | Apparentlt, d-i doesn't know what to do with logical drives on megaraid? |
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| 22:29.18 | carbon60 | I loaded the drive manually, and it sees the controller. |
| 22:29.28 | carbon60 | Is there something else needed? |
| 22:29.29 | nvz | abrotman: I am fairly certain as I typed those out off the top of my head by hand that I didnt type the same name twice |
| 22:29.39 | nvz | abrotman: unless OO.o glitched somehow |
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| 22:30.58 | xstasi | omg |
| 22:31.06 | xstasi | current unstable is completely messed up |
| 22:31.13 | nvz | I should have used numbers |
| 22:31.16 | abrotman | nvz: i blame OO! |
| 22:31.18 | nvz | heh |
| 22:31.30 | Mococo | hi i have a debian server, main ip works ok, when adding additional ip's which were routed to the main ip and adding them to the ifconfig many locations cannot ping to it, i think i need to add something to /etc/network/interfaces anyone understand my issue? lol |
| 22:31.31 | abrotman | carbon60: did you create a logical drive yet? |
| 22:31.38 | nvz | I notice random patterns better with words though |
| 22:31.48 | abrotman | carbon60: i have megaraid here .. works fine with sarge installer |
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| 22:32.14 | petemc | Mococo: adding aliased ips is exactly the same as adding normal ips |
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| 22:32.21 | shogunx | Mococo how did you add additional ip's? |
| 22:32.40 | action09 | n8 all |
| 22:33.00 | nvz | needed decent ammount of formatted data to test the ability of rl to generate a good random and I was playing with different formats and sorting methods and thats when I noticed the difference of a 3 count on the data sorted/unsorted |
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| 22:33.08 | shogunx | Mococo, for the same address block, or a differnet network? if the latter, you have a routing issue. |
| 22:33.09 | Mococo | shogunx using ifconfig eth0 |
| 22:33.36 | Mococo | Hello shogunx the additional ips are different class c then the primary. |
| 22:33.38 | shogunx | Mococo not ifconfig eth0:1, eth0:2 etc? |
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| 22:34.05 | Mococo | shogunx correct. |
| 22:34.24 | Nwallins | any idea what the Device URI should be to use a network printer with cups? |
| 22:34.31 | Ap4ch3 | why is ubuntu used more than sarge? |
| 22:34.46 | Sh4dowcat | Ap4ch3: do you have a proper question? |
| 22:34.47 | Nwallins | Ap4ch3: is it? |
| 22:35.09 | shogunx | Mococo then you have a routing issue. see this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 22:35.27 | Mococo | ok thanks. |
| 22:35.51 | shogunx | Mococo n/p |
| 22:36.15 | dli | Nwallins, lpadmin -E -p your_printer -v ipp://cups.server.com/printers/your_printer |
| 22:37.47 | avar | dli: does that set the printer up? |
| 22:38.02 | xstasi | is debian for amd64 somehow "official"? |
| 22:38.05 | carbon60 | abrotman: I createed a logical drive, but sarge installed doesn't load the drive itself. I loaded it manually. The partition editor doesn't see it now. |
| 22:38.56 | Nwallins | dli: hmm.. your_printer can be any name i choose? |
| 22:38.57 | dli | avar, yes, you may check by, "lpstat -t" |
| 22:39.09 | dli | Nwallins, must be |
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| 22:39.57 | xstasi | what happened to xfonts-utils? |
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| 22:39.58 | gravity | xstasi: In what sense? |
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| 22:40.08 | xstasi | E: Package xfonts-utils has no installation candidate |
| 22:40.26 | barsanuphe | hi |
| 22:40.45 | xstasi | all xfonts packages depend on it |
| 22:41.10 | gravity | xstasi: What architecture are you running? |
| 22:41.15 | barsanuphe | ive noticed there is a massive xorg update tonight, but that it wants to uninstall nvidia-glx |
| 22:41.15 | xstasi | amd64 |
| 22:41.21 | barsanuphe | it is troublesome |
| 22:41.32 | gravity | xstasi: Yeah, that should sort itself out. It's being worked on |
| 22:41.45 | gravity | xstasi: xfonts-utils can't be autobuilt yet on any arch |
| 22:41.46 | xstasi | so maybe when i check tomorrow it will be ok? |
| 22:41.59 | xstasi | but it doesn't exist even on p.d.o |
| 22:42.44 | gravity | xstasi: It does, but it only lists it in experimental currently |
| 22:42.46 | yoo | Hi ! |
| 22:42.49 | xstasi | omg |
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| 22:43.02 | yoo | somebody can help me with shfs and permissions please ? |
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| 22:43.09 | gravity | xstasi: Anyway, it's being worked on. The jump from X11R6 to X11R7 isn't trivial |
| 22:43.15 | xstasi | i see |
| 22:43.16 | xstasi | :) |
| 22:43.18 | yoo | i can't access on my partition shfs with dump |
| 22:43.20 | xstasi | what about libtasn? |
| 22:43.21 | shogunx | xstasi we accompanied the removal of nvidia-glx with a physical raid on nvidia's headquarters. |
| 22:43.28 | gravity | Don't know about libtasn |
| 22:43.33 | gravity | That's not mine :-( |
| 22:43.35 | xstasi | they have a bug |
| 22:43.40 | yoo | /dev/hda1: File not found by ext2_lookup while translating mnt/sauvegarde/backup_simpson |
| 22:43.43 | xstasi | they conflict with libgnutls12 < 1.3.5 |
| 22:43.47 | yoo | What does it mean , |
| 22:43.51 | yoo | ? |
| 22:43.54 | xstasi | but the last libgnutls12 is 1.2.9... |
| 22:43.54 | xstasi | :P |
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| 22:44.19 | edulix | hi ! |
| 22:44.21 | xstasi | i modified control and rebuilt it locally and now works |
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| 22:44.45 | edulix | is there ny way to see a log of the lastest packages installed by apt? |
| 22:44.57 | edulix | s/ny/any/ |
| 22:45.09 | stew | edulix: there is if you have dpkg 1.13 or later |
| 22:45.09 | xstasi | i'm /msging the mt |
| 22:45.54 | c0rrupt` | can proftpd be set to listen on multiple ports? |
| 22:45.58 | edulix | found it, /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 22:46.00 | edulix | thanks :) |
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| 22:46.52 | Nwallins | dli: i have not created the printer yet. should i use ipp device, and a uri like you specified? |
| 22:47.12 | xstasi | gravity: by the way.. when will I be able to install X? |
| 22:47.31 | nvz | c0rrupt`: I've never used it, but if it cant listen on multiple ports it should consider changing its name to something like 2ndrateftpd |
| 22:47.44 | c0rrupt` | WELL |
| 22:47.47 | nvz | c0rrupt`: probably just have to add another Port ## in the config |
| 22:47.50 | c0rrupt` | my isp blocks 21 |
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| 22:47.56 | c0rrupt` | looks that way at least |
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| 22:48.01 | gravity | xstasi: I recommend just installing the version in testing for now, and putting it on hold until all the pieces are built |
| 22:48.01 | c0rrupt` | im bout to call the bitches up |
| 22:48.08 | nvz | heh |
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| 22:48.13 | c0rrupt` | ya i tried |
| 22:48.25 | c0rrupt` | using Port |
| 22:48.28 | c0rrupt` | didnt work.. |
| 22:48.32 | dli | Nwallins, printers are with the cups-server |
| 22:48.38 | nvz | sounds like a plan I may call some bitches up too |
| 22:48.38 | xstasi | gravity: testing has no X on amd64 |
| 22:48.42 | c0rrupt` | anyone else in here use verioz FIOS? |
| 22:48.46 | c0rrupt` | verizon* |
| 22:48.54 | Nwallins | dli: eh? |
| 22:49.01 | c0rrupt` | i dunno why they would block it |
| 22:49.05 | gravity | xstasi: Yes it should |
| 22:49.11 | c0rrupt` | my friendsgot fios and they dont blockhis |
| 22:49.12 | dli | Nwallins, gnome and kde both have GUI tools for cups, you can also use "http://localhost:631" |
| 22:49.22 | nvz | I dont know why I wait until after I am out of bed and the day is half over to start charging my phone/ would make more sense to do that at night while I am asleep |
| 22:49.29 | Nwallins | dli: yes, i am using web ui. i am not running X on this box |
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| 22:49.39 | xstasi | gravity: but it doesn't |
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| 22:49.39 | xstasi | :P |
| 22:49.40 | Nwallins | dli: i don't understand what device or URI to choose for this printer |
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| 22:50.11 | dli | Nwallins, you may "ssh -X -Y root@cups.server" and run firefox there |
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| 22:50.41 | spike | hi there |
| 22:50.42 | Nwallins | dli: I am using the web ui now. i just don't understand what values to enter when adding a printer |
| 22:50.59 | gravity | xstasi: http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/pool/main/x/xorg-x11/ |
| 22:51.01 | dli | Nwallins, if you don't understand, get a better tool |
| 22:51.02 | spike | can anybody help me with cryptsec-luks and permission issues? |
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| 22:51.22 | xstasi | wow |
| 22:51.35 | xstasi | so maybe http://ftp.debian.org/ is the wrong mirror to use.. |
| 22:51.38 | Nwallins | dli: i agree that the tool is crap, when it asks you questions without any explanation of how one might answer them |
| 22:51.42 | spike | I cant open the encrypted device as user, luksOpen fails |
| 22:51.53 | nvz | oh I've been here all week.. just havent spent much time at home.. been out playing robin hood so that my friends and I have cash in our pockets |
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| 22:52.30 | thingfish | nvz: robin hood, huh...I'm sure you were all legal and stuff. |
| 22:52.47 | xstasi | gravity: should I use both? |
| 22:52.49 | nvz | thingfish: of course.. its only illegal if you get caught |
| 22:52.53 | gravity | xstasi: I don't know |
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| 22:53.02 | nvz | thingfish: I dont get into trouble, trouble gets into me |
| 22:53.07 | Nwallins | i know the make, model, and ip of the printer. it's on an ethernet network. i don't see why it's asking me about devices and not ip addresses |
| 22:53.10 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, can you tell me how to delete a profile of aMSN ? |
| 22:53.15 | thingfish | nvz: well...technically no, but practically speaking, yes. :) |
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| 22:54.54 | Azar | what is aMSN? |
| 22:55.21 | nvz | thingfish: we dont worry about technicalities.. it was dark, raining.. the rain diffuses light.. so that helped considering we all were using white light. and I footed the booty through the woods in the dark to a safe pickup spot behind some cement barriers.. we made over $300 that night.. but that was like wednesday or something.. I'm broke now ready to do some recon.. I tried to rally em to go last night but out of 5 people I couldnt get anyo |
| 22:55.22 | EdLin | SonnyBurnett: when you apt-get remove it, use --purge |
| 22:55.35 | Ronin | Azar: linux app that connect to msn |
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| 22:55.49 | Azar | oh I see... thank you Ronin |
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| 22:56.00 | thingfish | nvz: deer poaching? |
| 22:56.27 | SonnyBurnett | EdLin, but Ijust want to removejust one of the profiles... not all |
| 22:56.39 | thingfish | it's too early for morels... |
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| 22:57.01 | deadcat | gravity: i am downloading 7.0 (= |
| 22:57.03 | deadcat | thanks |
| 22:57.05 | EdLin | SonnyBurnett: 1) go to google.com 2) find out if amsn has an irc channel |
| 22:57.12 | gravity | deadcat: Cool :-) |
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| 22:57.14 | chalcedony | Graveling: hi *hugss* |
| 22:57.18 | vhuren | I get this error when I try to print |
| 22:57.18 | vhuren | E [11/Apr/2006:19:06:39 -0400] restart_job: job #10 cannot be restarted - no files! |
| 22:57.18 | vhuren | d [11/Apr/2006:19:06:39 -0400] send_ipp_error(0xb7bb4c3c[8], 404) |
| 22:57.18 | vhuren | D [11/Apr/2006:19:06:39 -0400] Sending error: client-error-not-possible |
| 22:57.18 | Graveling | I need to put a debian boot image on a floppy...how might I do this? |
| 22:57.19 | gravity | deadcat: It should be broken on ppc though |
| 22:57.23 | gravity | Or anything non-x86 |
| 22:57.26 | Graveling | heh, heya chalcedony |
| 22:57.26 | vhuren | can someone help me try to solve this? |
| 22:57.28 | Graveling | :) |
| 22:57.35 | SonnyBurnett | EdLin, lol |
| 22:57.38 | deadcat | gravity: ok. i will wait for a while on the ppc. hehe. |
| 22:57.44 | nvz | thingfish: na we only steal non-cash items that have no serial numbers or tracable identifiers that has a direct cash value..as I dont deal on the black market to get rid of shit. and we make sure nobodys loosing.. the last place was gonna be torn down and wasted anyhow.. all we did was cut all the pipes out and scrap it |
| 22:57.47 | EdLin | SonnyBurnett: I'm not joking |
| 22:57.54 | gilianima | is it possible to wget a web page that uses this <form method="post" action="http://mywebsite/mypage.html"><input name="myarg"></form> ? If yes, how to give the form the argument "myarg" it needs ? |
| 22:58.03 | EdLin | SonnyBurnett: gaim has an IRC channel |
| 22:58.14 | thingfish | nvz: wow csi miami last night was about that very same thing. |
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| 22:58.44 | nvz | thingfish: no point in letting the wrecking ball and cherry picker carry away several hundred dollars of raw material to a dump site when we can recycle it and help the environment, less for them to pick up, and make money |
| 22:58.48 | thingfish | not that I like david caruso or anything - he sucks. |
| 22:58.59 | thingfish | nvz: hey I'm right there with ya./ |
| 22:59.07 | thingfish | go for it. |
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| 22:59.52 | thingfish | plus you never know about that stuff that people leave behind...just watch antiques roadshow. |
| 22:59.59 | SonnyBurnett | EdLin, I know,,,, I just laught about the directions.... I just fixed it... I deleted the profile directory and my problem was solved |
| 23:00.07 | nvz | so yeah I break the law.. but what people dont know wont hurt em and hey it pays my bills so I dont have to collect unemployment and welfare when I am between work |
| 23:00.35 | thingfish | nvz: hah. I break the law probably about 8-9 times per day. |
| 23:00.39 | nvz | so like I said nobody is loosing anything |
| 23:00.41 | thingfish | ;) |
| 23:00.52 | nvz | we are just gaining because we take action |
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| 23:01.04 | chalcedony | nvz how do you avoid being noticed? |
| 23:01.14 | xstasi | gravity: btw, any idea on when X will be ok on sid? |
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| 23:01.30 | thingfish | nvz: I mean, it's just salvage, really. most people that do what you're talking about are only harvesting abandoned property. |
| 23:01.40 | nvz | chalcedony: I am like a ghost most anywhere.. but especially in the woods.. you should be afraid at the very thought that you are in the same woods with me |
| 23:01.41 | gravity | xstasi: It's already pretty ok for i386. For other arches I can't say. I don't know how deep the bugs go |
| 23:01.43 | xstasi | like "tomorrow" / "next year" |
| 23:01.44 | xstasi | :) |
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| 23:01.54 | bulio | what kernel does debian sarge ship with? |
| 23:01.55 | thingfish | ooh now don't talk like that, nvz. |
| 23:01.56 | gravity | xstasi: Within two weeks I think |
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| 23:02.00 | xstasi | great :) |
| 23:02.07 | _rene_ | bulio: 2.4.27 and a.6.8 |
| 23:02.09 | Romano2K | hi everyone. i just compiled a new kernel, my 'uname -a' gives "Linux tankjr 2.6.16.4 #1 Tue Apr 11 23:57:36 CEST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux" |
| 23:02.13 | Irrumator | Anyone upgraded X to 7.0.0? |
| 23:02.14 | _rene_ | err |
| 23:02.19 | _rene_ | 2.6.8, obviously |
| 23:02.19 | Azar | bulio: 2.4 but you can install with "linux2.6" if you specify so |
| 23:02.22 | Romano2K | i was wondering if i could get rid of the "Tue Apr 11 23:57:36" part |
| 23:02.27 | deadcat | Irrumator: working on it right now. |
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| 23:02.47 | Irrumator | deadcat: There's some new system for XKB, or something, and I can't get it working. Any clues? |
| 23:02.52 | chalcedony | thingfish: you do your recycling in town? |
| 23:03.24 | deadcat | Irrumator: xserver-xorg-input-kbd maybe? |
| 23:03.51 | thingfish | chalcedony: where I'm from, we just waste stuff. no recycling. unless I'm entirely missing your reference. |
| 23:03.54 | nvz | thingfish: about 2 months ago we went out playing with some bb guns in the woods to practice for the paintball wars we were gonna have out there.. and I took most my light colored clothing off and pained myself up with mud and was crawling around.. my frieds didnt even know how good I was.. I had one friend sighting another while I was right behind him with him in my sight he turned around and seen me laying on the ground with a neon sight aime |
| 23:04.02 | deadcat | well. 7.0 is trying to remove nvidia-glx though. )= |
| 23:04.04 | Irrumator | deadcat: No - that's not that. It's ignoring the layouts I specified in xorg.conf now. It seems I should be using xkbsel, or something, but I can't figure it out. |
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| 23:04.17 | Irrumator | deadcat: grab the nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source from incoming.debian.org |
| 23:04.25 | deadcat | Irrumator: i havent relly upgraded yet. |
| 23:04.27 | deadcat | Irrumator: thanks. |
| 23:04.33 | thingfish | nvz: wow, so you were out there practically naked? That's kind of primal. |
| 23:04.47 | nvz | thingfish: when it comes down to it, theres isnt anything you can put past me.. I will do whatever it takes to avoid failing my directives |
| 23:04.50 | thingfish | I mean, males were meant to hunt, and kill. |
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| 23:05.04 | thingfish | nvz: jack bauer would be proud of you. |
| 23:05.20 | deadcat | Irrumator: should i stop all my X before upgrading or something. (= i am at school right now. |
| 23:05.23 | gravity | Irrumator: Did you install xkb-data or xkb-data-legacy? |
| 23:05.31 | meneg | (sane to let apt upgrade to x 7 if I use ATI's 3d accel?) |
| 23:05.36 | Irrumator | gravity: Yes, I did - xkb-data. |
| 23:05.54 | Irrumator | deadcat: I'd wait till things settle down before upgrading if I were you |
| 23:06.02 | Irrumator | I'm not liking the whole situation right now |
| 23:06.08 | deadcat | ok |
| 23:06.13 | nvz | I'm glad we have tools and all, but I'd rather have some radios, a scanner, nice blow torch and maybe some night vision :P |
| 23:06.14 | gravity | Irrumator: Could you file a bug against xkb-data? |
| 23:06.18 | thingfish | nvz: (jack bauer being the hard-driven, super-dedicated, CIA agent on the TV show "24".) |
| 23:06.35 | thingfish | hehe blow torches are fun |
| 23:06.47 | bulio | DebianBox:/home/bulio/ndiswrapper-1.13# make |
| 23:06.47 | bulio | make -C driver |
| 23:06.47 | bulio | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bulio/ndiswrapper-1.13/driver' |
| 23:06.47 | bulio | Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/build; |
| 23:06.48 | bulio | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:06.51 | nvz | thingfish: yeah and less noisy than hammers and pipe cutters |
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| 23:06.56 | Irrumator | gravity: I would, if I knew what the actual problem is. I'm assuming it's an issue of migrating my settings to the xkbsel system, but, well, this whole transition is somewhat overwhelming. |
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| 23:07.03 | bulio | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 23:07.05 | bulio | shoot |
| 23:07.11 | bulio | http://pastebin.com/654604 |
| 23:07.14 | bulio | I meant to do that |
| 23:07.18 | bulio | whats wrong there? |
| 23:07.38 | gravity | Irrumator: So what's the actual problem? |
| 23:07.43 | thingfish | nvz: but awful bright. |
| 23:08.00 | gravity | I don't know xkb like I should, but I can try to help |
| 23:08.17 | thingfish | of course you get a few peope gathered around to block out the light... |
| 23:08.30 | Irrumator | Well, I'll try to solve it, it's probably operator error. Thanks, though |
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| 23:09.02 | thingfish | why oh why is my paycheck even gone before I get it... |
| 23:09.09 | nvz | thingfish: yeah well so far i havent had to work alone.. so minor problems can be solved one way or another.. light is easy to work with.. you cant for example see light past a brighter light.. like if I stand behind a black screen you can only see me if my side is brighter than yours |
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| 23:09.13 | thingfish | damn this george bush |
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| 23:09.54 | nvz | thingfish: exception being digital cameras and digital filtering techniques |
| 23:09.57 | thingfish | nvz: well anyway, you're safe if you are in an area with spotty police coverage. |
| 23:10.01 | thingfish | right |
| 23:10.04 | nvz | thingfish: but I have ways around cameras too |
| 23:10.17 | thingfish | nvz: you slick devil you. |
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| 23:10.51 | micket | Hey guys, i can't seem to figure this one out. I'd like to get DRI working, and what seems to be causing problems is that i simple do not have a /dev/dri/card0. What do i do about that? |
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| 23:11.43 | nvz | thingfish: I've designed many special purpose devices in the past to achieve mission critical goals which is why I came back from dallas with 2 less frs radios and one less bearcat scanner.. cause I had to make something out of em :P |
| 23:11.44 | meneg | hi, if I see a package called "transitional", can I safely remote it? |
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| 23:13.10 | thingfish | nvz: dude you better watch it before you become a threat to national security. ;) |
| 23:13.19 | nvz | would really help to have those radios right now |
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| 23:14.34 | nvz | please.. nothing I do effects national security. if anything I contribute to the ideal of national security.. some of the things I designed years ago still havent been properly implemented by the federal agencies |
| 23:14.45 | thingfish | oh nvz I'm just kidding |
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| 23:14.57 | ojai | is there a recommended method to setting up a debian repository? I see most have at least /{pool,dists} |
| 23:15.11 | dondelelcaro | ojai: no, you don't even need those. |
| 23:15.20 | nvz | I somehow lost two sweaters and though I dont need them now I will eventuall |
| 23:15.38 | dondelelcaro | ojai: just use apt-ftparchive to create the packages file, and write the sources.list line with a trailing /. |
| 23:15.48 | thingfish | eww...sweater loss is a serious thing. I love all my sweaters. |
| 23:16.20 | nvz | yeah especially when you put as much work into them as I do |
| 23:16.34 | thingfish | except the white all-cotton one that the cats claimed for their mattress. |
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| 23:16.52 | ojai | dondelelcaro: yeah, that's how I have mine right now but I was wondering if there's a more "standard" way to do it :) |
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| 23:17.13 | nvz | white.. good idea.. gonna wear light colors on top, dark on the bottom.. |
| 23:17.22 | dondelelcaro | ojai: that's the way you make small repositories; larger ones you can use any number of things, going all the way up to dak. |
| 23:17.49 | thingfish | nvz: just avoid black and white. better go for a grey on the bottom part. |
| 23:17.54 | stew | ojai: have you read the repository howto? |
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| 23:18.19 | nvz | thingfish: dont worry when I need to it will all be invisible anyhow |
| 23:18.19 | ojai | stew: no, where is it? I'd love to! |
| 23:18.30 | stew | ojai: /msg dpkg repository |
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| 23:18.47 | thingfish | nvz: oh you're talking about "work" time. |
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| 23:19.06 | thingfish | I thought you were talking about for just general going out. |
| 23:19.18 | thingfish | like to the clubs and stuff. |
| 23:19.34 | nvz | thingfish: I am not only sneaky when I am working.. sometimes you never know what you are missing unless you stop, dig in and watch :P |
| 23:19.54 | thingfish | nvz: that's for sure. |
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| 23:20.10 | samuel | sup all |
| 23:20.32 | thingfish | just the usual, samuel. |
| 23:20.47 | bulio | how do I install NDISWrapper on debian? |
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| 23:20.49 | thingfish | debian slackers, hanging out in #debian. |
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| 23:21.25 | nvz | I could use an eyeglass or some binoculars too.. fortunatly there is a lookout point on the river with binoculars.. so I can see most the valley from there.. but we dont have radio comm so that sucks.. gotta use cell phones or primitive signals like morse code |
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| 23:21.41 | stew | bulio: /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
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| 23:21.56 | thingfish | nvz: hehe god dude, have you ever thought about going straight and getting a legal job? |
| 23:22.04 | ojai | stew: thanks, that looks like it's what I'm looking for |
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| 23:22.23 | x|e | hmm i did an upgrade and it upgraded Xorg to 7.0 ... and i cant seem to get xserver to start .. says it can not find my nvidia module.. it is installed and was working fine with 6.9.. i tried to reinstall it and nothing same error. |
| 23:22.28 | nvz | thingfish: heh I've had many of those.. but when I am inbetween work I rather amuse myself than sit on my ass collecting govt money |
| 23:22.38 | Irrumator | gravity: Oh, you're this guy? http://gravityboy.livejournal.com/ |
| 23:22.39 | initard | Will someone please tell me a good program for reconfiguring X window system |
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| 23:23.04 | thingfish | nvz: be careful. unless you're cute enough to enjoy prison. |
| 23:23.12 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:23.20 | ultimated | after doing apt-get install php4 php4-gd libapache2-mod-php4 php4-pear php4-mcrypt is php configred to run? |
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| 23:23.27 | ceplma | initard: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 23:23.45 | nvz | thingfish: heh, I am not worried about that I am a master of the art of deception among other interesting trades |
| 23:23.48 | chealer | x|e: is the nvidia module loaded? |
| 23:24.05 | nvz | thingfish: I could lie my way out of steel bars |
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| 23:24.26 | x|e | oops... |
| 23:24.27 | bulio | but how can I install ndiswrapper without having an internet connection? |
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| 23:25.33 | bulio | Bad luck, the kernel headers for the target kernel version could not be found |
| 23:25.40 | gravity | Irrumator: Yes |
| 23:26.19 | Irrumator | gravity: Right now I'm running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to start from scratch, since I'm still getting that "falling back to pre-XKB" error. |
| 23:26.36 | thingfish | nvz: why don't you settle down and become a nice republican? |
| 23:26.40 | chealer | bulio: well, you get the packages you need in some way, and install them |
| 23:26.56 | gravity | Irrumator: Can you put the logfile in a paster? |
| 23:26.58 | nvz | thingfish: never |
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| 23:27.03 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:27.10 | stew | bulio: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 23:27.19 | thingfish | I'm like a mile left of democrat. |
| 23:27.37 | Irrumator | gravity: Yes, just a second. |
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| 23:28.01 | Stevie | thingfish: if you turn around, are you then a mile right of it? |
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| 23:28.10 | nvz | I cant even see republican with the hubble telescope from where I am.. and a good thing too.. cause I'd probably send a cruise missle or two |
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| 23:28.15 | bulio | DebianBox:/home/bulio# uname -r |
| 23:28.15 | bulio | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 23:28.25 | thingfish | Stevie: hey man, I'm committed - there's no turning around for me. |
| 23:28.45 | Squall` | I'm having trouble with my Geforce FX 5200 card on testing. |
| 23:28.53 | Squall` | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.55 | stew | does ndiswrapper even work with 2.4? the sarge cds only contain ndiswrapper-modules for 2.6.8 |
| 23:29.09 | thingfish | I live in missouri. lots of republicans here. lots of stupid, uneducated people, too - huh. |
| 23:29.38 | Squall` | thingfish, hey asshole, I live in Missouri and I have a PHD in Physics. |
| 23:29.39 | thingfish | anyway, the bastard's going to get impeached. |
| 23:29.46 | ultimated | after doing apt-get install php4 php4-gd libapache2-mod-php4 php4-pear php4-mcrypt is php configred to run? |
| 23:29.56 | anabain | any wizard that knows why in spite of # tar -tvf home.tgz |grep -i /joan/.kde|less shows that .kde dir's owner is joan, when doing # tar zxvpf home.tgz the same dir changes to root owner??? |
| 23:29.57 | Squall` | j/k |
| 23:30.02 | davor | thingfish: i think that there might be a corelation between those two ;-) |
| 23:30.05 | Irrumator | gravity: http://pastebin.com/654673 - This is with my old pre-7.0.0 config. |
| 23:30.12 | Irrumator | I've highlighted the error, near the end. |
| 23:30.12 | chealer | ultimated: presumably |
| 23:30.16 | thingfish | Squall`: well of course there are exceptions! ;) |
| 23:30.24 | Squall` | Haha, I live in Maryland actually. |
| 23:30.26 | bulio | how can I upgrade to sid? |
| 23:30.32 | Squall` | And I don't have a PHD in physics.... yet. |
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| 23:30.46 | chealer | !tell bulio about sid upgrade |
| 23:30.47 | thingfish | I want him to be let loose naked in an iraqi square somewhere. |
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| 23:30.58 | wooya510 | Can I have a question? When i started with GDM, don't working with virtual console key(ctrl+alt+fx), but In console mode, it work very well |
| 23:31.24 | bulio | how about etch then? |
| 23:31.25 | wooya510 | plz, help me |
| 23:31.38 | Stevie | anabain: are you actually running tar as root? |
| 23:31.42 | gravity | urgh... where's that dir? |
| 23:32.02 | anabain | of course, have you seen the #, Stevie? :) |
| 23:32.08 | bulio | could I upgrade to debian etch? |
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| 23:32.17 | Stevie | anabain: Well, not everybody uses # to correctly indicate root |
| 23:32.22 | anabain | well, I'm in konsole but logged as root? |
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| 23:32.53 | gravity | Irrumator: Do you have a /var/lib/xkb directory? It can be empty |
| 23:32.55 | chealer | bulio: which release do you run? |
| 23:32.57 | Azar | wooya510: use xterm in gdm |
| 23:33.03 | bulio | chealer: sarge |
| 23:33.09 | Stevie | anabain: I'm not sure what's going on; there are a bunch of settings that could cauase what you're seeing |
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| 23:33.13 | chealer | !tell bulio about sarge->etch |
| 23:33.47 | anabain | Stevie, like which? |
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| 23:34.06 | anabain | the problem seems to be in extraction, Stevie |
| 23:34.23 | bulio | !tell bulio about testing |
| 23:34.32 | bulio | !tell bulio about testing-security |
| 23:34.41 | chealer | !tell bulio about selftell |
| 23:34.45 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:34.48 | anabain | Stevie, doesn't his reduce the scope? |
| 23:34.48 | Stevie | anabain: setuid attribute on the directory |
| 23:34.51 | thingfish | it is to laugh |
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| 23:35.28 | SonnyBurnett | do you know if there is a channel about "laptops" ? |
| 23:35.31 | anabain | Stevie, and how can I check that? |
| 23:35.33 | Irrumator | gravity: Yes, I have, and with the new xorg.conf generated by dpkg-reconfigure I'm not getting that error anymore. I'd just like to know how can I migrate my previous settings to the new system |
| 23:35.45 | gravity | hrm |
| 23:35.54 | gravity | Irrumator: You'll have to do it by hand I guess |
| 23:36.02 | gravity | Oh, I think I know what happened |
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| 23:37.16 | Stevie | anabain: ls -ld . |
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| 23:37.30 | Stevie | does it say 'drws' or 'drwx' ? |
| 23:37.35 | bulio | but what do I put for sources in security |
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| 23:38.40 | thingfish | both the links in !linux-laptop are dead |
| 23:38.51 | chealer | bulio: did you see the testing security factoid? |
| 23:39.09 | bulio | yeah, changed it |
| 23:39.11 | anabain | one moment, Stevie |
| 23:39.22 | bulio | do I need to reconfigure X, now that I will be using X.org? |
| 23:39.40 | Irrumator | gravity: Before the upgrade I had two layouts (as you could see in the log) - us and il. Where is the new system explained? |
| 23:39.53 | gravity | Irrumator: /usr/share/doc/xkb-data |
| 23:39.57 | gravity | Irrumator: There's a readme |
| 23:39.59 | chealer | bulio: I don't see why you should |
| 23:40.03 | thingfish | finally spring is here. |
| 23:40.29 | Irrumator | Oh, yes, i think I read that - README.Debian said to symlink /etc/X11/xkb to /usr/share/X11/xkb. That is correct, right? |
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| 23:40.36 | gravity | Right |
| 23:40.36 | bulio | how can I choose if I want to boot into gnome or KDE? |
| 23:40.40 | bulio | I just installed Gnome |
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| 23:40.55 | thingfish | bulio: which ?dm are you using? |
| 23:41.04 | thingfish | bulio: did you install gdm? |
| 23:41.11 | thingfish | if not, do so. |
| 23:41.13 | bulio | I believe so |
| 23:41.24 | thingfish | well then /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 23:41.59 | minerale[d] | hot stuff: http://sexy.terrorists.ca (debian related since the host is running debian I guess) |
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| 23:42.04 | thingfish | bulio: you would know if you installed it. |
| 23:42.09 | bulio | I didn't |
| 23:42.10 | anabain | Stevie, /mnt/home/joan/.kde# ls -ld . returns this: drwx------ 4 root root 4096 2006-04-12 01:40 . |
| 23:42.24 | thingfish | bulio: then...install it. |
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| 23:42.47 | baroni | Hi all. I had to add a user to a new group, but I'm still logged as that user. Is there some way to be able to keep in the login session (without logout) but with the added group in the current groups of the user? |
| 23:43.12 | nixie | good question. i dont think so. :) |
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| 23:43.49 | Irrumator | gravity: Ah, there we go, everything is working fine now - thank you :) |
| 23:44.10 | gravity | Great |
| 23:44.13 | bulio | how do I see how mch space is left on my partitions? |
| 23:44.16 | nicholas | Has anyone else experienced massive bustage with the latest X upgrade in unstable? Or am I special? |
| 23:44.21 | Kyral | df -h |
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| 23:44.23 | Kyral | bulio: |
| 23:44.34 | Kyral | df -h again :P |
| 23:44.38 | gravity | nicholas: What kind of bustage |
| 23:44.40 | nicholas | By massive bustage, I mean xterm's broken, all GDK apps are broken, mozilla is broken, etc.? |
| 23:44.45 | anabain | nicholas, what's bustage? |
| 23:44.51 | gravity | nicholas: What arch? |
| 23:44.55 | thingfish | wow, sounds fun. |
| 23:44.57 | nicholas | gravity: i386. |
| 23:44.59 | gravity | hrm |
| 23:45.09 | Wanderer | hp sucks |
| 23:45.13 | gravity | nicholas: What's the error the apps are throwing? |
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| 23:45.19 | nicholas | X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) / Major opcode of failed request: 154 (XFIXES) / Minor opcode of failed request: 23 (XFixesSetCursorName) |
| 23:45.24 | thingfish | fun as in no thanks, glad to use sarge. |
| 23:45.28 | gravity | nicholas: Did you just report that? |
| 23:45.33 | Wanderer | damn hp 1610 doesn't even detect under linux usb |
| 23:45.36 | wooya510 | Can I have a question? When i started with GDM, don't working with virtual console key(ctrl+alt+fx), but In console mode, it work very well. Because I don't install gnome packages. I'm working in console |
| 23:45.38 | Wanderer | blatantly stupid |
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| 23:45.55 | nicholas | gravity: yes, but it occured to me that I should check whether or not it's Just Me. That happens sometimes. |
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| 23:46.00 | RazaMetaL | hi |
| 23:46.05 | gravity | nicholas: I'm looking at the bug report now |
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| 23:46.10 | thingfish | !greet RazaMetaL |
| 23:46.11 | dpkg | Bonjour, RazaMetaL |
| 23:46.24 | RazaMetaL | :) |
| 23:46.24 | gravity | nicholas: Did you restart the X server? |
| 23:46.28 | nicholas | gravity: yes |
| 23:46.33 | RazaMetaL | I've a problem.. very big problem |
| 23:46.35 | bulio | ok gdm is installed |
| 23:46.36 | bulio | now what? |
| 23:46.48 | RazaMetaL | trying to install again evolution but get the following message: |
| 23:46.49 | RazaMetaL | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.50 | thingfish | bulio: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 23:46.58 | wooya510 | done |
| 23:47.01 | RazaMetaL | and can't install it |
| 23:47.02 | thingfish | then log in and - voila! |
| 23:47.18 | RazaMetaL | i'm using sid |
| 23:47.43 | thingfish | why the hell don't these new types just use tasksel? |
| 23:47.52 | thingfish | I mean, that's what it's there for. |
| 23:47.53 | nicholas | gravity: that said, I run a custom kernel which is x86_64, but *all* my apps/libs are 32-bit userspace. And the NVidia drivers. But I don't think that will change the bug. |
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| 23:48.06 | RazaMetaL | previously I've made aptitude dist-upgrade and this remove some parts of the gnome desktop |
| 23:48.13 | thingfish | wee |
| 23:48.31 | nicholas | gravity: strangely, Konsole works. |
| 23:48.33 | gravity | hrm |
| 23:48.54 | gravity | nicholas: So far you're the first to report this. It's kind of weird |
| 23:49.06 | nicholas | gravity: you mean, the only to report this? |
| 23:49.10 | gravity | nicholas: What version of xserver-xorg do you have? |
| 23:49.28 | nicholas | gravity: 7.0.10 |
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| 23:49.37 | ooo- | anyone understands vlan/trunking? |
| 23:49.45 | gravity | hrm |
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| 23:49.54 | ooo- | ? |
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| 23:50.14 | nicholas | gravity: I was checking versions -- the only one I wasn't sure about is libxpm4. I'm running 3.5.4.2-2, not the epoched one. |
| 23:50.28 | nicholas | gravity: otherwise, it looks like everything is installed properly. |
| 23:50.36 | gravity | nicholas: This is really odd |
| 23:50.45 | gravity | nicholas: I'll keep at it |
| 23:50.54 | gravity | nicholas: I'm afraid I don't have a quick answer for you |
| 23:51.01 | nicholas | gravity: ok, thanks. That's fine. |
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| 23:51.22 | nicholas | gravity: I find I often have some bizarre issues that only apply to my own system because of something done in the long, long past. |
| 23:51.42 | nicholas | gravity: for example, last week I discovered that I had a dpkg-divert of /sbin/ldconfig for the past six years. Who knew. |
| 23:51.46 | samuel | what does gnomebaker need to burn mp3's to an audio cd |
| 23:51.48 | samuel | ? |
| 23:52.01 | gravity | nicholas: Somehow I'd imagine this is a special bug |
| 23:52.35 | samuel | i can play mp3's on my pc, but i cant burn them on cd's |
| 23:52.45 | nicholas | gravity: gotcha. Then I'll keep on it. |
| 23:53.16 | samuel | and b4 anyone asks - these mp3's are perfectly legal!!! i can burn them to ogg, but thats too much work |
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| 23:54.04 | RazaMetaL | any one have troubles with aptitude and sid ? |
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| 23:54.18 | chealer | RazaMetaL: see the BTS |
| 23:54.50 | RazaMetaL | chealer, thankz |
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| 23:55.33 | bulio | I reboot after upgrading to etch, right? |
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| 23:56.05 | azeem | bulio: you don't need to if you didn't upgrade the kernel |
| 23:56.14 | bulio | I believe I did |
| 23:56.20 | azeem | restarting your desktop environment might make sense though |
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| 23:57.09 | bulio | does it auto-remove Xfree86? |
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| 23:57.59 | drainbread | Holy Hindu cows Batman... there sure are a ton of people here |
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| 23:58.17 | thingfish | drainbread: and all of them very, very bad. |
| 23:58.25 | drainbread | lmao |
| 23:58.36 | drainbread | my kind of people |
| 23:58.39 | baroni | Hi all. Does anybody knows some common dialer that I can use to make a phone call (using a modem connected, and audio phones and a microphone already configured)? |
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| 23:59.25 | wooya510 | I need your advices and help. |
| 23:59.33 | stew | i wonder if your sarge->etch factoid should tell you to upgrade to 2.6 before moving to etch |
| 23:59.50 | stew | becuase once you are on etch with 2.4 i don't know if there is a sane way to upgrade your kernel currently |
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