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| 00:00.13 | liable_ | wookienz: gcc -v |
| 00:00.14 | bucky | wookienz: gcc --version |
| 00:00.30 | wookienz | ta |
| 00:00.53 | bcc | is there a way to turn uinstable into stable somehow? i'm doing an upgrade to install sshfs and since i haven't done it in a while, i got 50 minutes of downloads now. |
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| 00:01.08 | bcc | is there a safe way to turn unstable distro into stable? |
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| 00:01.28 | bbrazil | bcc: goto testing and wait for it to be released |
| 00:01.45 | abrotman | goto etch .. testing is "never" released |
| 00:01.46 | bcc | bbrazil: i remember having more problems with testing than with unstable. |
| 00:02.25 | jammyflynn20 | make jpkg dosent work for me any ideas |
| 00:02.36 | abrotman | tell us why it doesn't work maybe? |
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| 00:02.56 | jammyflynn20 | fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin |
| 00:03.02 | tuv | jammyflynn20, did you mean make-jpkg? |
| 00:03.23 | jammyflynn20 | fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin fakeroot is installed |
| 00:03.41 | jammyflynn20 | im typing this from root |
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| 00:04.21 | tuv | jammyflynn20, is java-package installed? |
| 00:04.41 | jammyflynn20 | i dont think so how do i install that |
| 00:04.54 | dorileo | isn't there a mplayer deb package? |
| 00:05.02 | stew | dorileo: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 00:05.35 | tuv | jammyflynn20, apt-get install java-package, maybe? |
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| 00:06.17 | jsldub | I just upgraded sid, to the new X i believe, but X will not start as any user other than root, because it cannot move the log file. I have tried changing permissions on the /var/log/Xorg.0.log. any ideas? |
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| 00:07.28 | stew | jsldub: what is the output of "ls -l /usr/bin/X11/X"? |
| 00:07.33 | jammyflynn20 | couldnt find package java-package |
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| 00:07.49 | stew | jammyflynn20: its in contrib, /msg dpkg contrib |
| 00:08.07 | liable_ | root___: log in as a normal user, then start your client |
| 00:08.15 | jsldub | stew, symlink to /usr/bin/Xorg. i fixed that last night |
| 00:08.20 | powder | jammyflynn20, add contrib to your sources.list |
| 00:08.32 | ipso | Can anyone help me fix my apt-get? For some reason it always "hangs" when on the configure stage of any package that requires user input. It doesn't bring up a screen asking for input, so I have to CTRL+C to cancel it, and the package never gets configured. |
| 00:09.37 | jammyflynn20 | typed this /msg dpkg contrib no sutch file or directory |
| 00:09.46 | stew | !tell jammyflynn20 about contrib |
| 00:09.52 | stew | jsldub: i don't think that is correct |
| 00:10.00 | stew | jsldub: the symlink, i mean |
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| 00:10.43 | miki | anyone can help me with getting USB to work? |
| 00:10.49 | jsldub | why? what does your /usr/bin/X11/X file point to? using sid? |
| 00:10.56 | loggygreg | ipso: does dpkg try to start a X program ? |
| 00:10.57 | jammyflynn20 | lol i dont understand a word of it |
| 00:11.09 | abrotman | !tell root___ about root |
| 00:11.17 | abrotman | root___: you can't speak in here as root ... use a normal user |
| 00:11.20 | liable_ | !tell jammyflynn20 about reference |
| 00:11.24 | ipso | loggygreg: no idea... I don't see anything that would alert me to that. |
| 00:11.42 | miki | when im loading my debian, it shows smth like this: "USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 |
| 00:11.43 | ceplma | jsldub: /usr/X11R6/bin is gone; /usr/bin/X should point /usr/bin/Xorg |
| 00:11.47 | miki | usb [failed] |
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| 00:12.17 | loggygreg | ipso: try '/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure -fdialog debconf' and choose dialog if it wants to start a X program |
| 00:12.23 | jammyflynn20 | ewhats this a manual |
| 00:12.27 | stew | jsldub: /usr/bin/X11/X: setuid setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, not stripped |
| 00:12.43 | jsldub | ceplma, yes, that is correct. but the problem I am encountering is that X will not run as a normal user because it cannot move the log file |
| 00:12.49 | jsldub | runs fine as root |
| 00:13.01 | ipso | loggygreg: dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to exist on my system |
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| 00:13.09 | loggygreg | ipso: with root |
| 00:13.10 | miki | reconfig |
| 00:13.17 | stew | jsldub: the X binary would be sgid/suid root, my Xorg binary is not my X binary is |
| 00:13.19 | jammyflynn20 | how do i look through this manual ive downloaded |
| 00:13.34 | jsldub | stew, oh, now i get what you are saying |
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| 00:14.13 | stew | jsldub: i can't, however figure out what package the X binary came from |
| 00:14.17 | miki | i cant get USB to work, when im loading my debian, it shows smth like this: "USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 - usb [failed] |
| 00:14.18 | jammyflynn20 | !tell java |
| 00:14.37 | ipso | loggygreg: sorry, my bad, wrong box... I'll close a few of these ssh sessions... Running that command seems to do the exact same thing as running apt-get, it just sits there doing nothing. If I strace it, it hands on read( |
| 00:14.37 | jammyflynn20 | !tell java-machine |
| 00:14.41 | VulpesFoxnik | Is there any way to "make" directly into a debian file? |
| 00:14.43 | stew | jammyflynn20: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:14.48 | jammyflynn20 | install java |
| 00:14.54 | jammyflynn20 | i have been for 2 days |
| 00:15.03 | jammyflynn20 | i just want to unpack the file |
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| 00:15.06 | ipso | loggygreg: hands = hangs |
| 00:15.25 | stew | jammyflynn20: you need the non-free java from sun? what are you going to use java for? |
| 00:15.28 | loggygreg | ipso: strange, no idea then |
| 00:15.29 | jammyflynn20 | fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin (typing this from root) |
| 00:15.37 | stew | jammyflynn20: do you get an error? |
| 00:15.41 | jammyflynn20 | yes |
| 00:15.43 | ceplma | jsldub: are you on sid? if yes, then move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to some safe place, and then run (as root, of course) dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. This should make you a working X, which you can then fix to you likeness. |
| 00:15.44 | jammyflynn20 | cant find file |
| 00:15.53 | jammyflynn20 | just want to use it for online applets |
| 00:15.53 | stew | jammyflynn20: do you have java-package installed? |
| 00:15.57 | jammyflynn20 | no i dont |
| 00:16.05 | jammyflynn20 | cant get it installed |
| 00:16.07 | abrotman | sarge's java-package won't do 1.5 anyways |
| 00:16.10 | ipso | loggygreg: is there a config file I can read or something that will tell me if its trying to use X, or Ncurses or something to get user input? |
| 00:16.12 | stew | abrotman: yes it will |
| 00:16.20 | stew | jammyflynn20: did you add contrib sources to sources.list? |
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| 00:16.29 | jammyflynn20 | no i dont know how |
| 00:16.32 | abrotman | stew: i thought it didn't |
| 00:16.33 | stew | jammyflynn20: /msg dpkg contrib |
| 00:16.46 | jsldub | ceplma, ok, i will try that |
| 00:17.05 | jammyflynn20 | just get an error |
| 00:17.13 | ceplma | bye |
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| 00:17.15 | unix_infidel | wow, mplayer playback is terrible on this comp. |
| 00:17.17 | loggygreg | ipso: the last command I gave change ('-fdialog') the configuration window with dialog and not X |
| 00:17.24 | stew | jammyflynn20: type "/msg dpkg contrib" into your irc client |
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| 00:18.06 | loggygreg | ipso: so it is not a problem with debconf trying to start a X program |
| 00:18.12 | ipso | loggygreg: hrmm... is there a way to have apt-get skip asking for user input altogether? |
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| 00:18.35 | tuv | unix_infidel, i had mplayer playing back very smoothly on a PI 133MHz! |
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| 00:18.51 | jammyflynn20 | i didnt understand one word what the bot has said |
| 00:19.12 | miki | i cant get USB to work, when im loading my debian, it shows smth like this: "USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 - usb [failed] |
| 00:19.18 | miki | any help? |
| 00:19.37 | powder | jammyflynn20, just edit your sources.list and add "contrib non-free" right after "main" |
| 00:19.39 | loggygreg | ipso: you need to run the command i gave but it' semms to be impossible |
| 00:19.42 | Noisy_1 | Hello, I did the expert installation so I could perform the cd-check and I only have CLI now. Is there a way to apt-get an environment from root or do I have to reinstall a standard installation? |
| 00:19.53 | stew | jammyflynn20: what is your native language? |
| 00:20.08 | powder | Noisy_1, what DE do you want? |
| 00:20.10 | sfullenwider | Does anyone in here edit videos in linux? what app do you use? |
| 00:20.17 | Noisy_1 | not sure, which is the fastest? |
| 00:20.20 | Noisy_1 | this is for a server |
| 00:20.30 | powder | no DE is fastest for server ;) |
| 00:20.32 | ipso | loggygreg: so it seems... but there must be a way to fix this... Should I try upgrading my debconf/dialog libraries? |
| 00:20.36 | jammyflynn20 | wheres sources list located |
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| 00:20.49 | stew | jammyflynn20: man sources.list |
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| 00:21.03 | Noisy_1 | well yeah... but I need something I can use with ease. I'm a newbie and CLI is getting on my nerves |
| 00:21.07 | loggygreg | ipso: try 'dpkg-reconfigure -freadline debconf' |
| 00:21.20 | tuv | sfullenwider, i use avidemux from marillat for minor editing |
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| 00:21.28 | Noisy_1 | I need wonderful clickable buttons ;P |
| 00:21.43 | powder | Noisy_1, apt-get install x-window-system-core gnome-desktop-environment |
| 00:21.50 | Noisy_1 | ty |
| 00:22.04 | Noisy_1 | I need to do this from root if I have no sudo right? |
| 00:22.10 | powder | yes |
| 00:22.13 | Noisy_1 | thanks |
| 00:22.45 | Noisy_1 | is gnome the fastest? |
| 00:22.48 | kurtak | Still having trouble getting nice looking fonts. it feels like i've tried everything documented online. Question; are the things in the "Module" section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 suppose to show up in the list that the lsmod command spits out? |
| 00:22.54 | ipso | loggygreg: same thing... |
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| 00:23.26 | loggygreg | ipso: humm... that's really bad |
| 00:23.26 | Ecnassianer | I'm looking to clean up space on my hard drive, is there a way I can easily find the top X (~10) files by size on my hard drive? |
| 00:23.51 | ipso | loggygreg: I have an strace of whats going on... not sure if that will help or not |
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| 00:24.45 | loggygreg | ipso: have you upgraded debconf recently ? |
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| 00:25.05 | JeffH | How risky is it to use Testing in a production environment? |
| 00:25.07 | ipso | loggygreg: this has been going on for quite a while now, I haven't time to track it down until now... I don't recall if I did or not. |
| 00:25.22 | stew | Ecnassianer: du / | sort -n | tail |
| 00:25.29 | ipso | loggygreg: Its currently version 1.4.70 |
| 00:25.30 | Noisy_1 | would 'apt-get sudo' get me sudo? |
| 00:25.33 | Ecnassianer | <3 |
| 00:25.44 | photo_jeff | should |
| 00:25.49 | Noisy_1 | k |
| 00:26.03 | stew | Ecnassianer: if you want to find out what subdirectory is using the most space in a given directory, cd /somedir ; du -ks * | sort -n |
| 00:26.05 | loggygreg | ipso: or may be a terminal emulator problem... |
| 00:26.15 | ipso | loggygreg: Apparently 1.4.72 is out, I could try upgrading to that... |
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| 00:26.26 | photo_jeff | Noisy_1... you can also do... |
| 00:26.27 | Ecnassianer | Thanks stew |
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| 00:26.37 | jammyflynn20 | sources.list ran a search on it and couldnt find it |
| 00:26.37 | photo_jeff | apt-cache search sudo |
| 00:26.41 | gnufan | eek -- had to remove x11-common -- freed up 1Gb when it finished with the dependencies -- ouch |
| 00:26.49 | ipso | loggygreg: I know originally everything did work fine... I could see the ncurses screens that would allow me to setup packages... a few months ago it broke though |
| 00:26.57 | stew | jammyflynn20: type "man sources.list" |
| 00:26.59 | tuv | jammyflynn20, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:27.16 | photo_jeff | easy way to have winder print to a cups printer in ubuntu? |
| 00:27.40 | loggygreg | ipso: yes, upgrade it but i doubt it will resolve your problem |
| 00:27.50 | JeffH | does testing change a lot or is it somewhat settled? |
| 00:27.58 | tuv | JeffH, alot |
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| 00:28.02 | stew | JeffH: it changes daily |
| 00:28.11 | ipso | loggygreg: there is no way to skip the configure step when installing new packages eh? |
| 00:28.29 | lordnazgu1 | photojeff try #ubuntu |
| 00:28.37 | Noisy_1 | Do you want to entrust font management to defoma? |
| 00:28.40 | JeffH | hm.. damnit.. I hate how ancient the stable packages are. |
| 00:28.54 | stew | Noisy_1: when in doubt hit enter |
| 00:28.57 | gnufan | ipso you can set the default priority for questions very high -- this may do some odd things when a package really wanted an answer |
| 00:29.02 | Noisy_1 | ok |
| 00:29.08 | miki | i cant get USB to work, when im loading my debian, it shows smth like this: "USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 - usb [failed] |
| 00:29.14 | ipso | gnufan: Thats fine... how would I go about doing that? |
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| 00:29.47 | loggygreg | ipso: yes it's possible but It's a bad idea. To do that you need to reconfigure debconf with dpkg-reconfigure but you can't |
| 00:30.15 | ipso | loggygreg: its not like a text file I can edit somewhere? 'cause I can't install the new debconf because it requires debconf |
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| 00:30.26 | Noisy_1 | Which paper size should be the system default? |
| 00:30.31 | stew | ipso: what is wrong with your current debconf? |
| 00:30.44 | ipso | stew: it just hangs.... |
| 00:30.52 | gnufan | ipso you can hack it in apt.conf -- but I agree with loggygreg just fix the problem |
| 00:30.56 | stew | ipso: which debocnf frontend are you using? |
| 00:31.05 | ipso | stew: dpkg-reconfigure -freadline debconf hangs |
| 00:31.24 | ipso | stew: so apparently I can't even reconfigure it... |
| 00:31.25 | unix_infidel | how do i change the font size in aterm. |
| 00:31.34 | unix_infidel | i've tried using shit and +/_ |
| 00:31.43 | unix_infidel | but how do i make it permanent. |
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| 00:31.51 | ipso | stew: it will sit there forever with the last syscall being: read( |
| 00:32.17 | Noisy_1 | Please enter the video card's bus identifier??? O_O" |
| 00:32.17 | ipso | gnufan: I wish I knew how to fix the problem, my only guess at this point is to try and upgrade debconf itself, to make sure I'm running the latest version... but I can't even do that so... |
| 00:32.30 | stew | ipso: hm, maybe try dialog? have you checked the bts? |
| 00:32.43 | lordnazgu1 | nano /usr/lib/menu/aterm |
| 00:32.46 | stew | Noisy_1: leave it blank unless you ahve 2 cards or are on a mac |
| 00:32.47 | ipso | stew: bts? |
| 00:32.49 | gnufan | ipso have you tried just downloading the debconf deb and "dpkg -i" it |
| 00:32.53 | stew | ipso: /msg dpkg bts |
| 00:32.54 | Noisy_1 | k thanks stew |
| 00:32.59 | ipso | gnufan: no, haven't tried that yet... |
| 00:33.02 | stew | Noisy_1: same with amount of ram |
| 00:33.11 | loggygreg | stew: already tried with dialog |
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| 00:34.25 | adrakoa | hi |
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| 00:34.56 | unix_infidel | anyone on my aterm question above? |
| 00:35.25 | lordnazgu1 | unix_infidel edit /usr/lib/menu/aterm and add the switches onto the command |
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| 00:35.44 | JRWR | is it possabile to connect 2 computers with a sound card |
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| 00:36.12 | unix_infidel | lordnazgu1: i'm assuming that if it doesnt exist i'm supposed to create it? |
| 00:36.14 | ipso | loggygreg: gnufan: stew: Upgrading to the latest debconf manually with dpkg seems to have done the trick. interesting... |
| 00:36.37 | loggygreg | ipso: cool |
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| 00:37.38 | ipso | loggygreg: is there a way to fix this message when I run apt-get: WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
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| 00:38.28 | loggygreg | ipso: /msg dpkg 2006 key |
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| 00:39.23 | lordnazgu1 | unix_infidel are you using gnome or kde or are you using some other wm |
| 00:39.29 | unix_infidel | some other wm |
| 00:39.41 | unix_infidel | fluxbox specifically if it matters. |
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| 00:40.52 | Noisy_1 | once I have everything configured properly on my server is it possible to disable GUI? |
| 00:40.55 | lordnazgu1 | unix_infidel check your .fluxbox/init file to find out where it gets its menu from, i believe it takes it from /usr/share/menu edit the file there, then update-menus and on the fluxbox menu choose reconfigure and voila |
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| 00:41.13 | shogunx | Noisy_1 just remove the video card. |
| 00:41.20 | Noisy_1 | onboard : / |
| 00:41.44 | shogunx | Make an X configuration that does not work? |
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| 00:42.06 | ipso | loggygreg: Thanks... didn't seem to help though |
| 00:42.08 | lordnazgu1 | noisy1 mv /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm /etc/rc2.d/K99xdm or gdm or kdm as it would apply. this will stop X from loading but will allow you to start it by startx |
| 00:42.52 | Noisy_1 | k |
| 00:43.06 | loggygreg | lordnazgu1: remove X or edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
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| 00:43.55 | lordnazgu1 | loggygreg for noisy 1 not me ;) |
| 00:43.56 | jammyflynn20 | cant chat sources.list permission denied |
| 00:44.11 | jammyflynn20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.12 | loggygreg | lordnazgu1: sorry |
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| 00:44.20 | lordnazgu1 | loggygreg np |
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| 00:45.07 | jammyflynn20 | trying to put contrib non-free into sources.list |
| 00:45.10 | jammyflynn20 | wont work |
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| 00:45.22 | stew | jammyflynn20: what is your native language? |
| 00:45.28 | jammyflynn20 | ? |
| 00:45.31 | jammyflynn20 | language |
| 00:45.38 | lordnazgu1 | jammyflynn are you root? |
| 00:45.41 | jammyflynn20 | yes |
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| 00:46.15 | lordnazgu1 | what does ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list show the permissions as |
| 00:46.29 | stew | jammyflynn20: is there a language you know better than english? |
| 00:46.32 | TimeRider | jammy, have you put it in but apt-get update is failing? |
| 00:46.42 | TimeRider | or can't you save it? |
| 00:47.15 | jammyflynn20 | -rw-r--r-- |
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| 00:48.07 | jammyflynn20 | im trying to install jva |
| 00:48.09 | jammyflynn20 | java |
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| 00:48.24 | jammyflynn20 | but think i need to edit sources.list |
| 00:48.34 | TimeRider | you do |
| 00:48.34 | Munger | Anyone here use ssmtp to send via gmail ? |
| 00:48.53 | endeavormac | after apt-get install Blender and following the instructions here: http://mediawiki.blender.org/index.php/Manual/PartXV/Python_Scripting I can not "import Blender" in python. As a matter of fact, a locate Blender.py shows that the file does not exist on my server! I installed from stable |
| 00:49.03 | Munger | I don't. I want to but it ain't working yet :) |
| 00:49.48 | TimeRider | jammy: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 00:49.53 | stew | endeavormac: dpkg -L packagename |
| 00:50.01 | TimeRider | add that line including deb http://etc to your sources.list file |
| 00:50.14 | TimeRider | then: apt-get update |
| 00:50.18 | TimeRider | then install what ya want |
| 00:50.21 | lordnazgu1 | endaevormac i got nothing about importing it, but perhaps an #updatedb would solve your locate problem |
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| 00:50.28 | TimeRider | if using aptitude might need to press u when you load it |
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| 00:50.53 | endeavormac | i always updatedb before locate, hold on stew, following that output |
| 00:50.56 | endeavormac | thanks guys :) |
| 00:51.47 | TimeRider | I know it's a long shot, but any aol users in here? |
| 00:51.50 | endeavormac | no Blender.py there. dpkg -L blender |grep Blender.py shows up blank... I'll do some more investigating on my own before I come back. Thanks |
| 00:52.03 | jammyflynn20 | that deb do i type it in root |
| 00:52.14 | TimeRider | you'll EDIT sources.list and add that in |
| 00:52.16 | TimeRider | edit it as root |
| 00:52.26 | TimeRider | use whichever editor you like |
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| 00:52.58 | jammyflynn20 | which application im new |
| 00:53.02 | stew | adrakoa: what version of debian are you running? |
| 00:53.08 | jammyflynn20 | 3.1 |
| 00:53.25 | nse | miki3: why don'y you read the manuals about that. there are plenty of them |
| 00:53.42 | adrakoa | stew unstable |
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| 00:53.57 | TimeRider | jammy, have send you a PM |
| 00:54.00 | abrotman | !tell endeavormac about search |
| 00:54.01 | miki3 | nse: plenty yes, but they do nothing for me |
| 00:54.30 | stew | adrakoa: unstable doesn't have X11R6 but X11R7, and mkfontdir should be in /usr/bin |
| 00:54.40 | deadcat | can someone on xorg 7.0 run dpkg -l |grep xfonts for me please. |
| 00:54.44 | stew | nse: which manuals do you think he should read about that? |
| 00:54.48 | endeavormac | abrotman: already done. |
| 00:55.48 | abrotman | ok |
| 00:55.48 | stew | deadcat: 100dpi,75dpi,base,encodings,scalable,utils |
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| 00:55.48 | deadcat | stew: thats what i have. but i fonts look jacked up |
| 00:55.48 | jsldub | deadcat, that happened to me earlier http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 00:55.48 | stew | deadcat: wiki.debian.org/Xorg68To7 |
| 00:55.49 | deadcat | thanks |
| 00:55.55 | stew | deadcat: err yeah the 69 one |
| 00:56.01 | deadcat | oh. debian has a wiki. better tell myfriend (= |
| 00:56.12 | adrakoa | stew thx,yesterday my xserver-xorg was dead, and i try to return stable... a chaos |
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| 00:57.05 | nse | stew: i'm not sure |
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| 00:58.31 | deadcat | whats evdev? |
| 00:58.38 | stew | nse: but manuals about that exist? |
| 00:58.54 | jammyflynn20 | ee /etc/apt/sources.list wont work for me any ideas |
| 00:58.58 | jammyflynn20 | from root |
| 00:59.18 | deadcat | explain wont work |
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| 00:59.27 | lnc | what will happen if i remove discover1? |
| 00:59.32 | stew | deadcat: apt-cache show xserver-xorg-input-evdev |
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| 00:59.44 | miki3 | stwe: my problem is very deep and problematic, even lspci aint working for me.... |
| 00:59.52 | petrock | hey guys, what IM client do you recommend for both win32 and nix? gaim fscks up my gimp, thaks |
| 00:59.57 | deadcat | stew: confusing |
| 01:00.10 | stew | deadcat: are you getting an error about not being able to load evdev? |
| 01:00.12 | deadcat | petrock: whatever works |
| 01:00.27 | petrock | what do you guys use? |
| 01:00.42 | deadcat | stew: no. i am reading the 69To7, it say definately need but i dont have it and my system still works |
| 01:00.47 | deadcat | petrock: centericq |
| 01:00.49 | gnufan | petrock I don't use Windows, gaim works fine with gimp in Debian Sarge and Sid. |
| 01:00.59 | unstable | When I run unstable, many times I'll do a dist-upgrade(nothing goes wrong, I don't have a problem, just curious) and when it runs, it will try to install the linux-image I already am running. And it gives me a dialogue telling me I already have it. |
| 01:01.02 | lnc | !esd |
| 01:01.03 | dpkg | esd is, like, the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 01:01.04 | unstable | Why does it do that? |
| 01:01.06 | petrock | deadcat thanks |
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| 01:01.21 | lnc | what will happen if i remove discover1? |
| 01:01.29 | deadcat | try and see |
| 01:01.38 | deadcat | i removed them i think |
| 01:01.46 | abrotman | lnc: things will not be discovered .. dark ages all over again! |
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| 01:01.54 | lnc | abrotman: what you mean |
| 01:02.00 | unstable | I did apt-get install linux-image-2.6.16-1-686 a week ago, and when I did a dist-upgrade today, it upgraded the kernel headers, and it _tried_ to upgrade the linux-image I already have. |
| 01:02.04 | deadcat | discover is useless anyway |
| 01:02.05 | abrotman | lnc: some modules may not get loaded |
| 01:02.06 | stew | miki3: do you have any uhci_hcd or ohci_hcd or ehci_hcd drivers listed in lsmod? |
| 01:02.21 | jammyflynn20 | ee cant find sources.list whereis it located |
| 01:02.27 | jammyflynn20 | please |
| 01:02.32 | lnc | /etc/apt/ |
| 01:02.33 | deadcat | jammyflynn20: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 01:02.34 | gnufan | unstable -- did you reboot? |
| 01:02.42 | jammyflynn20 | tried it |
| 01:02.51 | unstable | gnufan: yes, I'm running the kernel |
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| 01:03.10 | gnufan | unstable - well it is easy to forget running Debian ;) |
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| 01:03.37 | gnufan | unstable -- have you tried accepting the new kernel, does it still repeat? |
| 01:03.39 | nse | stew: yes i mean the universe is a changing manual |
| 01:03.55 | stew | nse: huh? |
| 01:03.57 | lnc | how do you vnc through ssh? |
| 01:04.17 | unstable | gnufan: Are there changes to the package "linux-image-2.6.16-1-686" and because it's unstable, they don't add a *16-2-686*? |
| 01:04.25 | unstable | gnufan: They just keep the package version, and make the changes? |
| 01:04.34 | Azar | stew: miki said last night he does not have lspci, lsmod and some other.. |
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| 01:04.52 | unstable | Should I do "apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install linux-image-2.6.16-1-686" maybe and reboot? |
| 01:05.14 | Steff_breezy | hi, would somebody of you like a script i wrote to do a JPG siterip and obtain loads of free images? then msg me |
| 01:05.20 | gnufan | hehe don't do that Xorg 7 upgrade in unstable... trust me -- I'm just getting GNOME reinstalled ;) |
| 01:05.55 | petrock | hello |
| 01:05.56 | miki3 | stwe: im not sure, going to check brb |
| 01:06.00 | abrotman | Steff_breezy: go away? |
| 01:06.00 | ogre | so i take it, i'm not the only one with a GUI issue after dist-upgrade with SID? |
| 01:06.04 | petrock | how can i replace xf86 with xorg? |
| 01:06.07 | miki3 | stew: im not sure, going to check brb** |
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| 01:06.23 | unstable | gnufan: No it doesn't repeat. |
| 01:06.54 | gnufan | unstable ;) who knows - mysteries of unstable -- compared to xorg v7 it wasn't so bad |
| 01:07.09 | gnufan | ogre see topic |
| 01:07.15 | unstable | gnufan: X7 runs great for me, it runs as smooth as a chinese badger in the mountains. |
| 01:07.34 | Noisy_1 | which partition scheme would be best for running a samba server? All files in one partition, Desktop machine, or Multi-user workstation? |
| 01:07.37 | gnufan | !smite unstable |
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| 01:08.01 | ogre | couldn't see the topic when I joined via bitchx, scrolled by too fast :X |
| 01:08.07 | ogre | well crap monkeys |
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| 01:08.08 | j-run | multi-user workstation |
| 01:08.19 | deadcat | stew: so i have to change all the /usr/lib/X11 to /usr/share/fonts/X11 right? not just the misc (= |
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| 01:09.19 | unstable | Is apt-get logging on by default or no? |
| 01:09.29 | lazzarello | if a system has 4 gigs of RAM should it also have 4 gigs of swap? |
| 01:09.30 | jammyflynn20 | whats the non contrib location |
| 01:09.37 | unstable | !tell jammyflynn20 about contrib |
| 01:09.44 | unstable | lazzarello: no |
| 01:09.52 | lazzarello | unstable, why not? |
| 01:09.53 | stew | jammyflynn20: non contrib would be "main" i guess |
| 01:09.57 | lnc | how do you vnc through ssh? |
| 01:09.59 | unstable | lazzarello: Depends on what you're doing, but imho if it were my system, I would use no swap. |
| 01:10.00 | woodland | hi |
| 01:10.04 | Azar | Noisy_1: check the 2.2 topic here: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/securing-debian-HOWTO.html |
| 01:10.07 | jammyflynn20 | dosent tell me a location |
| 01:10.14 | unstable | !tell lnc about repeat |
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| 01:10.19 | unstable | !greet woodland |
| 01:10.19 | dpkg | Hello, woodland |
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| 01:10.27 | gnufa1 | unstable I think it is enabled in sid and etch but no directive exists in sarge -- earlier downgrade from etch to sarge required me to remove the apt log directive |
| 01:10.39 | chron | how do i create extended drive in setup so i can create more logical drives? |
| 01:10.49 | woodland | !greet unstable |
| 01:10.49 | dpkg | Nihao, unstable |
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| 01:11.02 | unstable | root@cookooland:/var/log# find ./|grep -i apt |
| 01:11.08 | unstable | shows me nothing |
| 01:11.13 | lazzarello | unstable, what if all the memory is used? how can it write pages of less important memory? |
| 01:11.15 | gnufa1 | chron it is an option in the debian installers partitioner -- did you partition manually. |
| 01:11.30 | chron | nevermind i figured it out |
| 01:12.05 | stew | deadcat: yeah |
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| 01:13.14 | chron | what kind of stuff go in the /srv directory in debian? |
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| 01:13.18 | jammyflynn20 | apt-get java-package |
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| 01:13.24 | jammyflynn20 | mm |
| 01:13.25 | abrotman | apt-get install |
| 01:13.29 | deadcat | stew: thanks. should i add or replace? just incase i use this config file on a older system |
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| 01:13.49 | gnufan | chron me things that is DJB stuff - don't go there. |
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| 01:13.57 | chron | DJB? |
| 01:14.03 | abrotman | !djb |
| 01:14.03 | dpkg | rumour has it, djb is an arrogant jerk, or Daniel J. Bernstein, author of qmail, djbdns, etc., or at http://cr.yp.to/djb.html, or a UNIX coding and mathematics genius, or an ego-maniac. See "wanker". |
| 01:14.27 | chron | lmfao |
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| 01:14.32 | stew | deadcat: actually you have another option, probably, to update where the /usr/lib/X11/fonts symlink is pointing, in fact, the xorg7 packages should probably do this for you |
| 01:14.49 | chron | why does my computer freeze druing partitioning |
| 01:14.51 | abrotman | bind works just fine |
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| 01:14.52 | chron | after i make enough partitions |
| 01:14.57 | chron | well it slows down |
| 01:15.00 | chron | very bad |
| 01:15.03 | Noisy_1 | wow, why do we all hate djb? |
| 01:15.22 | gnufan | Okay so homophobic comments are out, but comparing people who self pleasure to DJB seems a tad harsh |
| 01:15.23 | abrotman | because he's a dick |
| 01:15.35 | jammyflynn20 | where do i type contrib non-free in sources.list |
| 01:15.57 | Azar | dunno about djb but ewd is my hero |
| 01:16.05 | Noisy_1 | self-pleasure is the only way to lower suicide rates ^^ |
| 01:16.16 | deadcat | stew: no. /usr/lib/X11/fonts is symlink to ../../X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ |
| 01:16.20 | jammyflynn20 | where do i type contrib non-free in sources.list |
| 01:16.20 | chron | anyone get the problem with their computer slowing down alot when partitioning? |
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| 01:16.33 | chron | how do i use fdisk instead at setup? |
| 01:16.33 | shogunx | just try not to get any on the keyboard. |
| 01:16.43 | lazzarello | chron, yes, it's normal |
| 01:16.48 | Noisy_1 | D: |
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| 01:16.52 | chron | it's very slow though |
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| 01:17.02 | chron | oh ok the lag stopped |
| 01:17.37 | stew | deadcat: yeah, and you shouldn't have anything in /usr/X11R6 anymore |
| 01:17.37 | seph | Q: I am running Gnome 2.12 (unstable) and when I plug my kingston usb stick in nothing seems to happend. The light flashes on the stick, but gnome does nothing. I have no problem mounting it manually |
| 01:17.45 | chron | wait nevermind, it slowed again ;-( |
| 01:17.48 | deadcat | stew: oh shit. because i do |
| 01:17.49 | Azar | miki: out of curiosity: what Debian distro do you have? |
| 01:17.50 | miki2 | stew: lsmod shows usbcore: ohci_hcd, uhci_hcd, ehci_hcd, speedtch but each of those shows 0 |
| 01:17.55 | stew | deadcat: oh |
| 01:17.57 | stew | deadcat: wait |
| 01:17.59 | gnufan | jammyflynn20: on the end of the lines that relate to which repositories the binaries come from -- why do you want them, they are mostly full of odds and sods, if I can live without them so can you. |
| 01:18.01 | Noisy_1 | shouldn't it mount as media or something? |
| 01:18.06 | chron | do alot of things go in /usr/local? |
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| 01:18.13 | stew | deadcat: the newest xorg package just makes X11R6 a symlink to /usr/bin iirc |
| 01:18.16 | lazzarello | chron, no |
| 01:18.17 | chron | on an average debian box |
| 01:18.26 | lazzarello | nothing does |
| 01:18.29 | chron | what kind of things would go in there on debian? |
| 01:18.30 | chron | ah ok |
| 01:18.36 | lazzarello | things you compile yourself |
| 01:18.45 | miki2 | stew: im trying to get my USB modem to work, but it seems that /proc/bus/usb is empty |
| 01:19.05 | deadcat | stew: i have xserver-xorg-{core,input-kbd,input-mouse,video-nv} |
| 01:19.12 | gnufan | seph I think you need "hotplug" installed -- could be wrong. Also may need an entry for /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab |
| 01:19.19 | stew | miki2: do you have any uhci_hcd or ohci_hcd or ehci_hcd drivers listed in lsmod? |
| 01:19.22 | Azar | miki is your usb modem module in /etc/modules? |
| 01:19.34 | jammyflynn20 | right ive dont the contrib works fine how do i install java-package |
| 01:19.34 | seph | gnufan, shouldn't gnome automount my stick without having it in /etc/fstab ? |
| 01:19.38 | jammyflynn20 | right ive dont the contrib works fine how do i install java-package |
| 01:19.52 | miki2 | stew: yes, all three... but they are showing only 0 |
| 01:19.58 | Noisy_1 | what is fluxbox? |
| 01:20.01 | gnufan | seph -- pass it needed that last time I set it up, but that was earlier than 2.12 |
| 01:20.12 | Azar | :) stew, you are hotly requested |
| 01:20.15 | seph | gnufan, if I try to install "hotplug" I am asked to remove hal, gnome, and a couple of other gnome- and hal related packages |
| 01:20.15 | abrotman | Noisy_1: a window manager .. ask google for more info |
| 01:20.15 | lazzarello | !fluxbox |
| 01:20.15 | dpkg | i guess fluxbox is a forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or blackbox the featureless wonder with some added features You can also ask #fluxbox for non-debian specific information. |
| 01:20.25 | Noisy_1 | ty |
| 01:20.31 | jammyflynn20 | right ive dont the contrib works fine how do i install java-package |
| 01:20.32 | miki2 | Azar: i dunno, will check that... |
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| 01:21.10 | stew | miki2: rmove those three, install them one at a time and see if one seems to make happier messages come out of dmesg |
| 01:21.21 | seph | gnufan, it should work. it works at work where I run ubuntu. I did nothing to make it work. it should automount as /media/Kingston but doesn't |
| 01:21.27 | bucky | !libsdl1.2 |
| 01:21.35 | seph | I don't know where to look for errors :( |
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| 01:21.42 | jammyflynn20 | what command do i use to install java-package |
| 01:21.45 | miki2 | stew: afaik my mobo supports uhci, how can i remove and reinstall those tho? |
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| 01:22.06 | Azar | miki: apt lessons: apt-get install / apt-get remove |
| 01:22.06 | stew | miki2: "modprobe -r modulename" |
| 01:22.16 | woodland | abrotman: hi i just installed new kernel as you said. but my system gets hanged |
| 01:22.20 | stew | Azar: why are you giving him apt lessons? |
| 01:22.21 | jammyflynn20 | what command do i use to install java-package |
| 01:22.34 | Azar | stew no, but he seems to have asked how to remove |
| 01:22.51 | stew | jammyflynn20: apt-get install java-package |
| 01:23.01 | miki2 | Azar: i got modconf, but it seems that even when i rmeove drivers, they will come back by default |
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| 01:23.11 | deadcat | stew: so your latest xserver-xorg package cleans up the X11R6 dir and symlink it? |
| 01:23.14 | lnc | !hotplug |
| 01:23.14 | dpkg | well, hotplug is a auto detect that are pluged into a running system (USB / IDE) http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/ , or see discover, or now replaced by udev in etch+ |
| 01:23.15 | Halitherses | !mtab |
| 01:23.15 | dpkg | i heard mtab is /etc/mtab is the file that shows those partitions that are currently mounted. Never edit this file. |
| 01:23.26 | Azar | miki maybe you need to uncheck them with modconf then remove |
| 01:23.31 | woodland | stew: hey, i installed new kernel but my system gets hanged all the time. |
| 01:23.44 | lnc | is there any way to use my webcam? |
| 01:23.56 | miki2 | Azar: anyway ill brb |
| 01:23.59 | lazzarello | lnc, yes |
| 01:24.01 | seph | lnc, properly |
| 01:24.05 | stew | deadcat: oh actually nm its just /usr/X11R6/bin sorry |
| 01:24.07 | lnc | what package? |
| 01:24.10 | lnc | webcam? |
| 01:24.11 | stew | woodland: try memtest86 |
| 01:24.12 | seph | what cam? |
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| 01:24.14 | lordnazgu1 | oooh that never even occurred to me to do, what kind of badness would happen if one edited mtab? |
| 01:24.27 | woodland | stew: is that a packagename |
| 01:24.31 | zinx | lordnazgu1: nothing.. |
| 01:24.37 | zinx | lordnazgu1: mount will be confused. |
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| 01:24.40 | lordnazgu1 | sinx oh thats boring |
| 01:24.44 | deadcat | stew: ok, so i guess i have have /usr/share/fonts/X11 and /usr/lib/X11 in my xorg.conf then. taht sound ok? |
| 01:24.47 | zinx | lordnazgu1: i always ln -sf /proc/mounts /etc/mtab myself |
| 01:24.54 | gnufan | apt-file .zzzZZZzzZZZ media-player-48.png icon is from? |
| 01:24.55 | deadcat | stew: to please 6.8 6.9 7.0 |
| 01:25.05 | lnc | some $19 radioshack cam |
| 01:25.06 | zinx | lordnazgu1: so it's never confused :D |
| 01:25.11 | seph | Anyone else having problems making automounting work in gnome (i'm running unstable) |
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| 01:25.49 | lordnazgu1 | zinx not a bad idea |
| 01:26.06 | ACU | Evening - Guys - I am trying to download ETCH Debian -- and unfortunately this JIGDO is another typical pain in the ass application --- any one knows how to download - I have a RW DVD drive with an empty DISC and I want to download ETCH beta2 there |
| 01:26.28 | lazzarello | is it realistic to think that if a system has 4 gigs of RAM and 1 gig of swap, it could possibly bring the kernel down if it runs out of physical RAM? |
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| 01:26.44 | zinx | ACU: does the machine you're installing it on have fast internet? |
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| 01:26.57 | ACU | Yes - very fast internet |
| 01:26.59 | jbroome | people still use jigdo? |
| 01:27.01 | shogunx | lazzarello, thats a pretty heavy load to do so. |
| 01:27.02 | chron | wow this partitioning lag is annoying |
| 01:27.04 | zinx | ACU: Then use the netinst/business CD. |
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| 01:27.14 | chron | anyone know how to get the setup to run fdisk instead? |
| 01:27.22 | batman4050 | How do I use the sort command so that it saves the changes it makes to the file it sorts instead of printing the output? |
| 01:27.28 | zinx | ACU: it'll save you time and effort |
| 01:27.30 | lazzarello | shogunx, but it's possible, right? let's imagine there's a mystery memory leak somewhere or just excessive load. |
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| 01:28.01 | ACU | OK Zinx - great IDEEA but I want to GIVE the CDs to somebody which do not have access to internet --- that is why I wanted to download |
| 01:28.11 | gnufan | seph is group plugdev relevant? |
| 01:28.16 | shogunx | lazzarello, after you exhaust both ram and swap... not so easy to do. |
| 01:28.22 | tienchi | hi, what should i apt-get to get my usb memory to work??? please |
| 01:28.30 | zinx | ACU: this is exactly why i asked what kind of net connection the machine it's being installed on has :/ |
| 01:28.33 | seph | gnufan, I tried adding myself to plugdev and hal to plugdev. didn't help |
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| 01:28.51 | lazzarello | shogunx, it takes about two days on the system in question. |
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| 01:29.10 | Rug | Howdy all |
| 01:29.11 | shogunx | lazzarello, database server? |
| 01:29.15 | Rug | Odd NFS problem; I have 2 mount points on my server, (both have identical perms in /etc/exports) one I can mount the other I cannot. Any ideas? |
| 01:29.20 | ACU | Man -- it seem that Debian developers want to make Debian hard to access -- you have to strugle for every small task |
| 01:29.26 | lazzarello | shogunx, scratch that, 5 days. yes, database server |
| 01:29.29 | zinx | ACU: you're probably better off downloading the first one or two CDs |
| 01:29.44 | zinx | ACU: they're ordered from most important to least important on the CDs |
| 01:30.07 | ACU | Zinx -- I know --- but I cannot start even the FIRST ONE - |
| 01:30.17 | zinx | ACU: building your own custom installation CD with our own packages is not a "small task" |
| 01:30.25 | lazzarello | shogunx, I think it's a bad script somewhere but the former distro (fedora3) didn't die like this. it's also happening the same way on a web server under heavy load. |
| 01:30.27 | zinx | ACU: can't start the first one? why not? |
| 01:30.38 | ACU | I do not know how to start it |
| 01:30.47 | lazzarello | the kernel says it has to kill mysql to free up memory |
| 01:30.55 | shogunx | lazzarello, can you put an additional disk in the box for additional swap? rule of thumb i learned was 1-2 times physical ram for swap. |
| 01:31.00 | zinx | ACU: if you burned it right, you just put it in the computer and make sure the bios is set to boot from the CD |
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| 01:31.06 | samuel | sup all |
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| 01:31.14 | chron | anyone know how to get the setup to run fdisk instead? |
| 01:31.16 | chron | anyone know how to get the setup to run fdisk instead? |
| 01:31.21 | lazzarello | shogunx, I'm making swap files |
| 01:31.25 | shogunx | lazzarello, also ,can you isolate theprocess eating the ram? |
| 01:31.31 | lazzarello | but 8 gigs or swap seems insane, no? |
| 01:31.46 | zinx | chron: instead of what? you can switch to a different vt and run it |
| 01:31.48 | ACU | No --- I did not download yeat the ETCH -- not a disk --- of course once I have iso disk I am ok |
| 01:31.56 | lazzarello | shogunx, unfortunately no, I haven't been able to isolate it yet, aside from "mysqd" :) |
| 01:31.58 | chron | ah vt ;-) |
| 01:32.01 | chron | forgot |
| 01:32.08 | samuel | anyone know where i can get a "fixed" font for xserver? the xorg xserver (from sid) doesnt want to start because of a critical error involving not finding a fixed font |
| 01:32.09 | lazzarello | s/mysqd/mysqld/ |
| 01:32.12 | shogunx | lazzarello, not as much as rebooting every 5 days in what appears to be a busy environment. |
| 01:32.44 | nn- | what's the prefered method to boot right into X11 without invoking a display manager? |
| 01:32.49 | lazzarello | shogunx, true. this 64 bit address space fucks up my assumptions about RAM. |
| 01:32.58 | zinx | ACU: well, you should only need the first CD for a fully working system |
| 01:33.18 | nn- | shall i create a new script in /etc/rc2.d/ ? |
| 01:33.36 | zinx | ACU: though with etch, it's probably better he use the netinst CD right off |
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| 01:33.48 | shogunx | lazzarello, long_long does change a few things. |
| 01:33.53 | zinx | ACU: because etch/sid change so quickly, and you need to stay somewhat up-to-date at least with security.debian.org's packages |
| 01:34.20 | batman4050 | What's the command to remove all the ^M characters in a text file? |
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| 01:34.34 | zinx | batman4050: col |
| 01:34.50 | bennygg | hay all how do u refresh bind like get rid of all the records it has cached? |
| 01:34.53 | zinx | batman4050: col < foo > bar |
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| 01:35.16 | Halitherses | I finally got my usb flash drive working. |
| 01:35.19 | batman4050 | thx |
| 01:35.26 | Halitherses | I had to install udev. |
| 01:35.47 | Halitherses | why should i need udev? |
| 01:35.51 | Noisy_1 | 'm on the debian software selection dialogue in the install process. How do I select items (enter just continues the installation with nothing selected) |
| 01:35.55 | seph | gnufan, it's funny.. the hal-device-manager doesn't display my stick and nothing happends in gnome-volume-manager when i insert the stick |
| 01:35.55 | Noisy_1 | I'm* |
| 01:36.07 | Halitherses | !udev |
| 01:36.07 | dpkg | hmm... udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
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| 01:36.49 | seph | Halitherses, lucky you. I have udev but my flash drive still doesn't automount |
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| 01:37.05 | Halitherses | I dont care about automounting |
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| 01:37.17 | Halitherses | I would prefer manual mounting actually |
| 01:37.18 | seph | :) I do. I use my debian box as a workstation |
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| 01:37.32 | Halitherses | so do i |
| 01:37.44 | nn- | what's the point in NOT doing an automount? |
| 01:37.48 | ACU | Zinx - this is for my nephew in High School --- it is mostly for a home network -- he wants to get involved with Linux ---- so I wanted to download somewhat more recent version since stable Sarge is still somehow primitive |
| 01:38.00 | abrotman | Noisy_1: spacebar |
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| 01:38.05 | Noisy_1 | thanks |
| 01:38.29 | shogunx | nn- security... tho if someone has physical access, you are probably screwed anyway. no automount keeps out a certain percentage. |
| 01:38.31 | Halitherses | I want to know if and when my drive has mounted properly |
| 01:39.18 | shogunx | Halitherses, i usually type mount to find those things out. |
| 01:39.25 | Halitherses | it is not a security issue for me |
| 01:39.45 | samuel | dammit... why didnt i read the wiki first before installing xorg 7 |
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| 01:40.08 | Noisy_1 | because you are Macguyver |
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| 01:40.56 | shogunx | nn-- come to think of it, no usb is even better for that. and no removable media of any type, and perhaps a serial console only. |
| 01:41.45 | seph | any ideas on what I can do to make automount work? dmesg prints out that it's detected and shows the size and vendor name. gnome-volume-manager doesn't print anything and hal-device-manager doesn't see it. I'm running unstable and 2.6.15.6 |
| 01:41.58 | nn- | use hotplug |
| 01:41.59 | seph | i'm trying to automount my usb stick |
| 01:42.02 | jammyflynn20 | is there anymore games to install apart from the ones buit in i mean from root |
| 01:42.06 | seph | nn- hotplug i deprecated |
| 01:42.14 | LinuxHelp | Hi, does anyone here know why my custom mini netinstall doesnt work? it says "Kernel Panick : Failed to mount root fs on ... (0,0) " or something |
| 01:42.18 | shogunx | seph... you have a line in /etc/fstab for the drive in question? |
| 01:42.27 | seph | shogunx, no |
| 01:42.27 | nn- | seph: why? |
| 01:42.41 | seph | nn-, because it is :) I didn't choose it to be |
| 01:42.48 | seph | udev is replacing hotplug |
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| 01:42.54 | LinuxHelp | the custom initrd file extracts properly using cpio, I tested it |
| 01:43.06 | Azar | but I see people having issues with udev already |
| 01:43.28 | shogunx | seph... perhpas try that, with the "auto" option enabled |
| 01:43.34 | woodland | stew: hi, i installed memtest86+ , but how do i start it |
| 01:43.40 | seph | shogunx, i shouldn't need a line? that's why it should automount? it works at work on my ubuntu install |
| 01:44.25 | shogunx | seph does your ubuntu box have a line in /etc/fstab? |
| 01:44.35 | woodland | i installed new kernel, but my system gets hanged, what can i do |
| 01:44.40 | seph | shogunx, I didn't add anything, so i'm guessing no |
| 01:44.58 | shogunx | seph can you ssh into it to find out? |
| 01:45.21 | seph | it's turned off. I'm quite sure it doesn't. It worked here at home before. It broke at some point |
| 01:45.47 | woodland | can anybody help me, my system gets hanged |
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| 01:45.56 | shogunx | seph not owning a usb memory stick, i'm not sure what else to tell you. |
| 01:45.58 | seph | woodland, what errormessage do you get? |
| 01:46.22 | seph | shogunx, ok. you can have mine when i get a bigger one ;) |
| 01:46.30 | woodland | seph: i dont get any message, the whole screen just hangs |
| 01:46.31 | seph | if I make it work, that is :P |
| 01:46.41 | seph | woodland, at what point? what do you see? |
| 01:46.42 | shogunx | seph hey thanks:) |
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| 01:47.26 | woodland | seph: after i am logged in to xwindow session, after few minutes suddennly screen hangs |
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| 01:48.04 | seph | woodland, are you using the nvidia driver? |
| 01:48.18 | woodland | seph: yes |
| 01:48.21 | nn- | it'sike cancer |
| 01:48.22 | seph | does _everything_ freeze up? |
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| 01:48.29 | woodland | seph: yes |
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| 01:48.43 | seph | what kernel did you install? |
| 01:49.05 | seph | and by package or compiled? |
| 01:49.23 | woodland | seph: i think i did 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 01:49.30 | Halitherses | From now on I'm only going to do an apt-get ugrade once every 6 months as I am tired of it breaking things. |
| 01:49.36 | woodland | seph: by package |
| 01:50.10 | seph | I dropped 2.4 a long time ago. I'm not going to be much help to you, but to me it sounds like a hardware issue |
| 01:50.31 | nn- | btw. does anyone else have problems with xawtv in testing? |
| 01:50.32 | woodland | seph: sorry its 2.6 |
| 01:50.36 | Noisy_1 | !kde |
| 01:50.36 | dpkg | it has been said that kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde |
| 01:50.46 | seph | if _everything_ hangs, and you actually used a packaged version, then something else _should_ be wrong |
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| 01:51.23 | woodland | seph: should i have done apt-get upgrade before installing it |
| 01:51.37 | Noisy_1 | how many "gets" do I need? |
| 01:51.42 | Noisy_1 | I'm at 588 -_-" |
| 01:52.31 | nn- | Noisy_1: bloatware.. |
| 01:52.33 | seph | woodland did you upgrade from 2.4 to 2.6? |
| 01:52.40 | LinuxHelp | does any1 on the planet know how to use an initrd file? |
| 01:52.42 | miki3 | stew: no difference at all with modprobe, it still loads uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd... althro under uhci_hcd it says: Unknown Parameter: uhci_hcd |
| 01:52.42 | woodland | seph: yes |
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| 01:52.48 | seph | woodland, then yes. |
| 01:52.58 | seph | there are a lot of issues due to upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 01:53.01 | seph | afaik |
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| 01:53.52 | woodland | seph: so what should i do now, right now i am in 2.4, so should i first uninstall 2.6 and then after apt-get upgrade, i should install 2.6 again ? |
| 01:53.59 | Coweater | how can i stop a module from being loaded from the boot: prompt? |
| 01:54.03 | Halitherses | I think 2.6 has matured a lot now and I have resolved all issues I had with it |
| 01:54.08 | seph | woodland, i'm not sure :) |
| 01:54.14 | abrotman | Coweater: like what? |
| 01:54.33 | seph | Halitherses, oh yes. but upgrading from 2.4 to 2.6 can cause issues |
| 01:54.40 | lnc | is OpenBSD based on FreeBSD |
| 01:54.42 | lnc | ? |
| 01:54.43 | Coweater | like a module i don't want to get loaded |
| 01:54.44 | jammyflynn20 | installing graphics drivers it says you seem to be apearing to be using an x server how do i stop this |
| 01:54.46 | abrotman | lnc: wrong channel |
| 01:54.50 | seph | you should generally be concerned about the modules |
| 01:54.51 | dvs | Coweater: like what module? |
| 01:54.54 | abrotman | Coweater: some you can . some you can't |
| 01:54.58 | Coweater | aic_7xxx |
| 01:54.58 | woodland | abrotman: hi, i have problems with the new kernel you suggsted. it gets hanged. screen is frozen |
| 01:55.02 | seph | woodland, are you running stable? |
| 01:55.11 | abrotman | woodland: did you reinstall the nvidia driver? |
| 01:55.15 | lnc | yes or no |
| 01:55.16 | lnc | easy |
| 01:55.17 | Coweater | (scsi) |
| 01:55.19 | woodland | seph: i think so |
| 01:55.21 | lnc | i know its offtopic |
| 01:55.23 | jammyflynn20 | installing graphics drivers it says you seem to be apearing to be using an x server how do i stop this |
| 01:55.23 | abrotman | lnc: GO ASK SOMEONE ELSE |
| 01:55.26 | woodland | abrotman: yes i did |
| 01:55.29 | lnc | but its yes or no question |
| 01:55.36 | abrotman | woodland: does it happen with the vesa driver |
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| 01:55.42 | abrotman | lnc: maybe you should ask the people that made it |
| 01:55.46 | lnc | lol |
| 01:55.51 | lnc | nvm fuck it |
| 01:55.53 | Noisy_1 | www.google.com |
| 01:55.54 | abrotman | !tell lnc about lol |
| 01:55.55 | Halitherses | lnc there is a good familiy tree of unix on wikipedia |
| 01:56.01 | seph | woodland, abrotman has a point. try the nv or vesa driver |
| 01:56.04 | Noisy_1 | abrot, tell me too |
| 01:56.06 | Noisy_1 | err |
| 01:56.10 | insidius | Hi, Where is a good place to get drivers for linux? |
| 01:56.12 | woodland | abrotman: what is vesa driver ? i am in 2.4 now and i dont have any problems here |
| 01:56.16 | Noisy_1 | !tell noisy_1 about lol |
| 01:56.21 | seph | insidius, the linux kernel ;) |
| 01:56.28 | samuel | is there any way to "roll back" an upgrade? |
| 01:56.29 | abrotman | woodland: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 .. choose the vesa driver |
| 01:56.36 | jammyflynn20 | installing graphics drivers it says you seem to be apearing to be using an x server how do i stop this |
| 01:56.38 | lnc | hahahahaha |
| 01:56.40 | woodland | abrotman: i am using nvidia here in kernel 2.4 and its working great |
| 01:56.45 | samuel | by hand install all the debs? |
| 01:56.45 | lnc | abrotman :) |
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| 01:56.50 | insidius | oh oh. So what happens if debian did not pick up my onboard lan then? |
| 01:57.02 | abrotman | woodland: i understand that .. but i'd still try vesa and see if it happens |
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| 01:57.09 | jammyflynn20 | installing graphics drivers it says you seem to be apearing to be using an x server how do i stop this |
| 01:57.11 | woodland | abrotman: ok |
| 01:57.17 | dvs | insidius: What kernel did you use? |
| 01:57.22 | Coweater | so i can't stop aic_7xxx from being loaded with the installer? |
| 01:57.39 | insidius | good question, ill just boot up the machine again. I was doing it late last night |
| 01:57.41 | woodland | abrotman: is vesa driver more advanced than nvidia |
| 01:57.45 | abrotman | Coweater: you can use expert or expert26 .. might give you more options |
| 01:57.50 | Noisy_1 | wow... I'm at get # 800 |
| 01:57.53 | abrotman | woodland: not even close |
| 01:58.33 | jammyflynn20 | installing graphics drivers it says you seem to be apearing to be using an x server how do i stop this |
| 01:58.43 | Noisy_1 | !tell noisy_1 about apt-get |
| 01:59.04 | insidius | ok the kernel version is 2.4.27 |
| 01:59.28 | dvs | insidius: try installing using the 2.6 kernel |
| 01:59.32 | woodland | abrotman: but on my laptop, there is nvidia label , so shouldnt i be using nvidia driver ? at least in kernel 2.4, nvidia is working fine. but i will try with vesa in kernel 2.6 as u suggest |
| 01:59.42 | insidius | does that mean i need to download another debian cd? |
| 01:59.57 | dvs | insidius: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 02:00.00 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:00.01 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:00.16 | Coweater | abrotman: 2.6 is the problem, but i need it for my nic |
| 02:00.30 | insidius | I cant do that cause i have no net access because it did not pick up the lan on the m/board |
| 02:00.45 | dvs | insidius: do you have the CDs? |
| 02:00.53 | jammyflynn20 | installing graphics drivers it says you seem to be apearing to be using an x server how do i stop this |
| 02:01.04 | insidius | I have 1 net install cd i got about a month ago, its the one i used to set up this machine |
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| 02:01.25 | abrotman | Coweater: so using expert mode doesn't help ? |
| 02:01.26 | dvs | insidius: it should be on the install CD |
| 02:01.31 | insidius | ahh ok |
| 02:01.57 | Coweater | 2.4 kernel works fine, the 2.6 goes into a reset loop with the scsi driver |
| 02:01.58 | jammyflynn20 | how do i end x server |
| 02:02.07 | jammyflynn20 | please |
| 02:02.09 | myboxen | ctrl-alt backspace |
| 02:02.28 | abrotman | Coweater: disable it in the bios? |
| 02:02.37 | leaveone | /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. if you are using gnome login |
| 02:02.38 | abrotman | !tell Coweater about sarge uni |
| 02:02.48 | jammyflynn20 | using kde |
| 02:02.55 | Noisy_1 | Continue installing libc-client without maildir support? <yes> <No> <--- Confused O_O |
| 02:03.04 | miki3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.10 | myboxen | jammyflynn20: kdm |
| 02:03.14 | myboxen | most likely |
| 02:03.33 | leaveone | although you can still log in to kde from gdm.. |
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| 02:04.03 | Halitherses | mike are you running etch or sarge? |
| 02:04.16 | Halitherses | if etch, you need udev |
| 02:04.21 | pilgrim | How do I add to string in bash? |
| 02:04.24 | jammyflynn20 | lol now it cant find the nvidia drivers im trying to install ahhhh |
| 02:04.54 | Halitherses | what do you mean by "add a string"? |
| 02:05.18 | abrotman | ask #bash ? |
| 02:05.32 | jsmidt | I'm trying to mount my cdrom and get this error:mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist. What does that mean? |
| 02:05.37 | pilgrim | Halitherses, SOMESTRING=$SOMEOTHER + $ANOTHER |
| 02:05.38 | jammyflynn20 | lol now it cant find the nvidia drivers im trying to install ahhhh |
| 02:05.46 | abrotman | jsmidt: is it a SCSI cd drive? |
| 02:05.52 | pilgrim | abrotman, did already. no one is around. |
| 02:06.00 | jsmidt | I don't know I'm a newbi |
| 02:06.02 | abrotman | noone? in #bash ? |
| 02:06.10 | abrotman | jsmidt: you don't know if your machine has scsi ? |
| 02:06.11 | leaveone | what do you mean it cant find.. are you in the directory that you saved them? |
| 02:06.15 | insidius | everytime i put a cd down it dissapears into a black hole |
| 02:06.17 | pilgrim | abrotman, by "around" I mean, no one is answering. |
| 02:06.23 | jsmidt | It is a sata cdrom |
| 02:06.27 | Noisy_1 | Continue installing libc-client without maildir support? <yes> <No> <--- What should I do? |
| 02:06.33 | jsmidt | what is scsi? |
| 02:06.36 | jammyflynn20 | how di locate file that are in the home dir |
| 02:06.37 | miki3 | Halitherses: you talking to me? |
| 02:06.39 | abrotman | !scsi |
| 02:06.40 | dpkg | somebody said scsi was (Small Computer Standard Interface) A standard data pathway used mostly for hard drives and CD-ROM drives, but also a common interface for scanners and sometimes printers. Currently the fastest (and the most flexible) method of interfacing with hard drives. It comes in two major varieties: SCSI-2 or WIDE SCSI. Both can now be Ultra, which doubles the speed. available in Ultra160 and Ultra320 flavors, or a cabling nightmare for a ... |
| 02:06.43 | jammyflynn20 | how do locate file that are in the home dir |
| 02:06.55 | leaveone | jammyflynn20, cd /home/user |
| 02:06.56 | shogunx | jsmidt small computer system interface |
| 02:07.04 | leaveone | where user is your login name |
| 02:07.06 | jsmidt | How would I find out if I had it? |
| 02:07.10 | abrotman | find $HOME |
| 02:07.46 | jsmidt | do I install scsi? |
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| 02:08.09 | shogunx | jsmidt sata uses a scsi emulation layer for some implementations. |
| 02:08.17 | pilgrim | to answer my own question it's like this: STRING3="$STRING1 $STRING2" |
| 02:08.49 | jammyflynn20 | anybody know the kernel source path for nvidia graphics cards |
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| 02:09.09 | jsmidt | Is there a command I can type to try to get the computer to "see" the cdrom? |
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| 02:09.37 | leaveone | apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common i think you need that |
| 02:09.46 | miki3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.47 | daxxar | < |
| 02:09.48 | insidius | ok im installing the image now |
| 02:10.20 | insidius | it still says im runing 2.4.27 |
| 02:10.30 | dvs | insidius: you have to reboot |
| 02:10.32 | Noisy_1 | jsmidt, dont you have to mount it? |
| 02:10.41 | insidius | ok my fault, first time ive done this |
| 02:11.05 | jsmidt | Noisy_1, so what can I do so that it will access things on cds? |
| 02:11.15 | Noisy_1 | you have to mount it |
| 02:11.23 | Noisy_1 | then go where you mounted it |
| 02:11.31 | abrotman | jsmidt: where does /dev/cdrom point? |
| 02:12.21 | jsmidt | abrotman, There is no /dev/cdrom , says no such file or directory |
| 02:12.26 | leaveone | jammyflynn20, also you can run synaptic and search for kernel.. then find the source and/or headers for whatever kernel you are using.. then try to run the nvidia install again |
| 02:12.36 | jsmidt | Do I create one? |
| 02:12.50 | dvs | jsmidt: Yes, link it to where the real cdrom is |
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| 02:13.13 | jsmidt | dvs, How do I find out where the real cdrom is? |
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| 02:13.39 | Noisy_1 | doesn't mount tell you where everything is? |
| 02:13.57 | jsmidt | So I just type mount? |
| 02:14.05 | Noisy_1 | dunno |
| 02:14.11 | Noisy_1 | I'm a newbie, but try it |
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| 02:14.43 | kingspawn | jsmidt: ls -l /dev/cdrom it will point to your real cdrom device |
| 02:14.44 | jsmidt | It says a lot of stuff but nothing about cds. I really appreciate the help. |
| 02:15.17 | dvs | kingsley: there is no /dev/cdrom |
| 02:15.20 | kingspawn | oh, sorry, i didnt read all the above |
| 02:15.22 | abrotman | dmesg | grep CD |
| 02:15.33 | jammyflynn20 | synaptic cannot open disply |
| 02:15.47 | dvs | jammyflynn20: don't run it as root |
| 02:15.49 | leaveone | jammyflynn20, are you in xwindows? |
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| 02:16.07 | jsmidt | abrotman, that came out with nothing |
| 02:16.08 | liable_ | doesnt sarge mount it on /media? |
| 02:16.18 | abrotman | that's not right |
| 02:16.22 | abrotman | dmesg | grep DVD ? |
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| 02:16.42 | jsmidt | abrotman, same thing |
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| 02:16.55 | abrotman | that's not right |
| 02:16.55 | dvs | jsmidt: modprobe ide-cd |
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| 02:17.02 | abrotman | it's a sata cd drive? |
| 02:17.06 | dvs | abrotman: yup |
| 02:17.20 | jsmidt | abrotman, yes |
| 02:17.28 | zl2tod | unlike windows you need to mount a filesystem (ie a cd) before you can access it. this connects the filsystem to somewhere on your root filesystem in the same way as it appears under My Computer in windows. /etc/fstab contains a list of known devices and filesystems which mount uses by default. /etc/mtab is a list of stuff which is mounted at boot. |
| 02:17.33 | abrotman | i was telling dvs |
| 02:17.34 | jsmidt | dvs, says modprobe command isn't found |
| 02:17.40 | abrotman | be root |
| 02:17.46 | liable_ | do sata cd drives go really fast? |
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| 02:17.56 | insidius | dvs: should i be worried if i upgraded the kernel and when i reboot the keyboard does not work? |
| 02:18.09 | miki3 | anyone can help me with getting usb to work? |
| 02:18.16 | liable_ | insidius: seems like that could be a problem. |
| 02:18.18 | jsmidt | dvs, modprobe cd-ide says nothing |
| 02:18.19 | dvs | insidius: well, that means you can't do anything. |
| 02:18.24 | abrotman | liable_: don't you have a koala to play with?! |
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| 02:18.30 | insidius | ahhh no |
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| 02:18.35 | dvs | jsmidt: now dmesg | grep CD |
| 02:18.51 | abrotman | jsmidt: ide-cd .. not cd-ide |
| 02:18.51 | insidius | well its still better then a good day in windows |
| 02:18.51 | liable_ | abrotman: no. i am at work. no koalas allowed |
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| 02:18.52 | abrotman | liable_: that really sucks |
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| 02:19.05 | insidius | I guess i will have to re-install now |
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| 02:19.22 | dvs | insidius: yeah, reinstall with the "linux26" boot option |
| 02:19.27 | shogunx | koalas are not covered under equal opportunity employment? outrage! |
| 02:19.28 | insidius | is there a way i can install from the disk using the 2.6 kernal instead of the 2.4 |
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| 02:19.29 | jsmidt | dvs, abrotman those commands still say nothing |
| 02:19.36 | insidius | ohh ok |
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| 02:20.09 | dvs | jsmidt: modprobe saying nothing is fine. |
| 02:20.19 | dvs | jsmidt: but dmegs | grep CD should say something |
| 02:20.37 | liable_ | /proc/scsi?? |
| 02:20.43 | shogunx | dmesg --> dmegs |
| 02:22.14 | liable_ | !test |
| 02:22.14 | dpkg | Yes, liable_, you're still online. |
| 02:22.19 | liable_ | phew |
| 02:22.21 | miki3 | anyone can help me with getting usb to work? |
| 02:22.32 | Noisy_1 | For the X Window System graphical user interface to operate correctly it is necessary to select a video card driver for the X server.. Drivers are typically named for the video card or chipset manufacturer, or for a specific model or family of chipsets. Select the desired X server driver.... How do I know which to pick? |
| 02:22.46 | Gnea | !tell miki3 about ask |
| 02:22.46 | abrotman | Noisy_1: which video card do you have? |
| 02:22.47 | Azar | miki, you spent like what more than an entire day and night with that usb modem, it seems it will not work for you |
| 02:22.50 | liable_ | miki3: was it you the other day that just modprobed usb again and it worked? |
| 02:22.52 | abrotman | !tell Gnea about cheese |
| 02:22.59 | Noisy_1 | its an onboard, dont know what it is |
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| 02:23.11 | Gnea | !smoke abrotman |
| 02:23.12 | abrotman | Noisy_1: lspci | grep -i vga |
| 02:23.15 | pilgrim | Am I the only lunatic using apache2 here? |
| 02:23.16 | Gnea | :) |
| 02:23.21 | abrotman | pilgrim: no |
| 02:23.27 | Noisy_1 | use the vga driver? |
| 02:23.28 | pilgrim | abrotman, pheww. |
| 02:23.39 | dvs | Noisy_1: vesa is better |
| 02:23.48 | abrotman | Noisy_1: no .. it's a command to run .. it will tell you what video card you have |
| 02:23.53 | Noisy_1 | oh |
| 02:23.54 | pilgrim | abrotman, you running it in a chroot jail by any chance? |
| 02:23.58 | Noisy_1 | how do I run it during installation? |
| 02:23.59 | abrotman | no |
| 02:23.59 | liable_ | Gnea: eww, ever had hair in your pipe? I bet abrotman tastes like that! |
| 02:24.01 | Azar | miki or stay with the 2.4.27 kernel you had and never go up with 2.6 |
| 02:24.17 | abrotman | Noisy_1: you're not in the installer anymore .. just hit ctrl-alt-f2 .. login .. do the command .. tell us |
| 02:24.37 | abrotman | liable_: why are you smoking hair? |
| 02:24.50 | liable_ | abrotman: run out of weed.. |
| 02:24.50 | Noisy_1 | then how will I continue these setup dialogues? |
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| 02:25.07 | abrotman | Noisy_1: switch back with ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 02:25.08 | shogunx | liable_ too bad no weed with little white hairs... |
| 02:25.13 | Noisy_1 | ok |
| 02:25.22 | zl2tod | "gimme a head with hair ..." |
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| 02:25.45 | Red_Cloud | I am adding MD5 support to PAM applications. The instructions that I am following http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4.en.html say to add these two lines "password required pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=12 difok=3" and "password required pam_unix.so use_authtok nullok md5" to the files in the directory /etc/pam.d/ such as login and ssh. The file ssh contains # Standard Un*x password updating. @incl |
| 02:25.45 | Noisy_1 | how does marijuana relate to linux? |
| 02:25.47 | Red_Cloud | common-password Should this line be optioned out? |
| 02:26.07 | abrotman | Noisy_1: it doesn't |
| 02:26.11 | shogunx | Noisy_1 most of the early *nix code was written under its influence? |
| 02:26.14 | Noisy_1 | ;-P |
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| 02:26.21 | zl2tod | miki: the usb infrastructure changed badly after 2.6.11 |
| 02:26.23 | Noisy_1 | thats reassuring |
| 02:26.25 | liable_ | Noisy_1: because most sysadmins seem to be pot smoking lunatics. |
| 02:26.28 | jsmidt | dvs, abrotman 1.) is dmesg | grep dvd 2.) could it be I don't have something installed that should be detecting the cdrom? |
| 02:26.40 | abrotman | shogunx: i'd like to know what the sendmail/bind guys were on |
| 02:26.44 | dvs | jsmidt: DVD must be capital |
| 02:26.54 | dvs | jsmidt: CD must be capitals too |
| 02:26.56 | abrotman | jsmidt: might be missing a driver |
| 02:26.59 | shogunx | abrotman :) |
| 02:27.02 | jsmidt | It was in the commands |
| 02:27.09 | Azar | zl2tod: the usb modem miki uses will never agree with a 2.6 kernel unless miki becomes the smartest guru and fixes the kernel |
| 02:27.28 | zl2tod | wish someone would ;) |
| 02:27.46 | jsmidt | abrotman, how can I find out if I am missing a driver? |
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| 02:27.54 | Azar | gah I just use an usb adaptor on my box for my mouse... and voila: no usb mouse |
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| 02:28.38 | insidius | It would appear that 2.6 still cant pick up my onboard lan. What can i do? is there some sort of generic driver i can use? |
| 02:28.42 | Noisy_1 | 000:00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5597/598/6326 VGA (rev 68) |
| 02:28.55 | jli | I'm a bit confused about the built-in bash command 'export'. if I set MAIL=$HOME/Maildir in .bashrc, what does running 'export MAIL' do for me? |
| 02:29.12 | dvs | !tell insidius about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 02:29.14 | jsmidt | Would any info from lspci be helpful? |
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| 02:29.32 | Noisy_1 | abrotman? |
| 02:29.47 | abrotman | Noisy_1: uhm .. let me look |
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| 02:30.16 | ekkikrist | jli: It is necessary to export to your environment, otherwise MAIL=$HOME/Maildir would be valid for 1 time only |
| 02:30.19 | abrotman | Noisy_1: try the 'sis' driver |
| 02:30.20 | quasimoto | is there a command i could run on a file that would replace every word with another? say james with bob? |
| 02:30.31 | k-god | quasimoto: man sed awk perl |
| 02:30.34 | Noisy_1 | Anyone here want to send me a PCI video card that can run 1280x1024 w/ 32-bit colour? |
| 02:30.39 | Noisy_1 | k thanks abrot |
| 02:30.39 | jli | ekkikrist, do you mean as if only for the first command I run? |
| 02:30.48 | jsmidt | I belive it is a texas intruments cdrom |
| 02:30.51 | ekkikrist | jli: For example MAIL=Maildir/ mutt would run mutt ... with the MAIL variable set... as a one time deal |
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| 02:31.14 | jli | ekkikrist, okay, thanks, that solves a lot of frustrating problems =) thanks again |
| 02:31.22 | abrotman | !nicktab |
| 02:31.23 | dpkg | Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles. For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one. |
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| 02:33.18 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.20 | Red_Cloud | @include common-password Should this line be optioned out? |
| 02:33.35 | linrunix | hello everybody |
| 02:33.59 | pilgrim | OK. I've got apache2 I'm trying to run it in a chroot env. I can start it and it works. However when I do /etc/ini.d/apache2 stop from normal env I get this error "httpd (no pid file) not running". I know apache2 is running and the PID is ditected fine by the /etc/ini.d/apache2 script. Can someone help me out please. |
| 02:34.01 | k-god | quasimoto: Sorted? |
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| 02:34.26 | jsmidt | abrotman, dvs when I type lsscsi I get: [0:0:0:0] disk ATA TOSHIBA MK1032GS AS02 - |
| 02:34.29 | abrotman | pilgrim: where is the PID file? and where does the script look for it ? |
| 02:34.50 | abrotman | jsmidt: and? is your drive a Toshiba? |
| 02:34.58 | pilgrim | abrotman, the pid file is in /chroot/apache2/var/run/apache2.pid and the script is able to find it after a modification. |
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| 02:35.18 | jsmidt | abrotman, I guess so, It makes since since this is a new toshiba laptop |
| 02:35.23 | abrotman | pilgrim: ok.. but it can't find it when shutting down ? |
| 02:35.32 | pilgrim | abrotman, script (/etc/init.d/apache2) also obtains a correct pid for apache2 process with root as the owner |
| 02:35.34 | abrotman | !backports |
| 02:35.35 | dpkg | i guess backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 02:35.43 | pilgrim | abrotman, yes. |
| 02:35.50 | theBeno | Hey, When I get try and install wine, I get an error, now can I install and fix dependencies? |
| 02:35.59 | abrotman | maybe it's not using hte PIDlocation variable ? |
| 02:36.05 | theBeno | apt-get install wine --fix*something I don't know* |
| 02:36.22 | abrotman | apt-get -f install ? |
| 02:36.23 | jli | is there a way to copy text from a terminal window _without_ using the mouse? |
| 02:36.53 | jammyflynn20 | how do i change root to user in terminal |
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| 02:37.06 | abrotman | su - <user> |
| 02:37.13 | jli | jammyflynn20, use the 'su' command (i.e., 'su username') |
| 02:37.15 | theBeno | jammyflynn20, su |
| 02:37.18 | jli | heh.. |
| 02:38.00 | theBeno | It says I have broken packages, any ideas? |
| 02:38.01 | mond0 | jli, GNU screen has an internal copy buffer.. |
| 02:38.11 | pilgrim | abrotman, there is no PIDlocation variable in /etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 02:38.23 | jli | mond0, yes, but I'm more interested in copying from a text terminal to the X clipboard |
| 02:38.25 | stew | theBeno: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 02:38.37 | jammyflynn20 | i finally installed java-package now it wont let me install java for website applets says no plugin match |
| 02:38.40 | jli | mond0, mainly so I can get URLs from the terminal into firefox |
| 02:38.41 | abrotman | pilgrim: so it's probably looking in /var/run/ |
| 02:38.44 | theBeno | stew, bat? |
| 02:38.55 | stew | !tell theBeno about bat |
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| 02:39.18 | mond0 | jli, i do believe you can pass URLs to firefox as an argument.. |
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| 02:39.48 | jammyflynn20 | is there a command like install everything |
| 02:39.54 | mond0 | jli, mozilla-firefox -remote "openURL("%s",new-tab)" |
| 02:40.02 | abrotman | you can't install everything at once |
| 02:40.04 | pilgrim | abrotman, /etc/init.d/apache2 works correctly until it handles control to /usr/sbin/apache2 with command: /usr/sbin/apache2 -k stop. |
| 02:40.19 | Noisy_1 | to install everything you have to insert the Windows XP disc and restart your computer |
| 02:40.26 | jammyflynn20 | java and nvidia drivers are realy getting to me |
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| 02:40.55 | pilgrim | abrotman, and this /usr/sbin/apache2 is binary and not a script so I can't check where it's trying to get the PID from |
| 02:41.09 | abrotman | you could strace it |
| 02:41.22 | pilgrim | abrotman, hmm...tell me more... |
| 02:41.49 | shogunx | Noisy_1 might want to try to get the drink glass rings off that disc first. |
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| 02:42.16 | Noisy_1 | nah, that would make it work! |
| 02:42.17 | Noisy_1 | ;P |
| 02:42.18 | abrotman | pilgrim: i was born in michigan ... about age 4 we moved to baltimore ... and then before second grade .. we moved to PA |
| 02:42.21 | shogunx | heh |
| 02:42.28 | pilgrim | LOL |
| 02:42.37 | jammyflynn20 | im gonna go now but one more thing how do i get the kernel for nvidia graphics card |
| 02:42.39 | pilgrim | abrotman, I knew we had something in common. |
| 02:43.11 | pilgrim | abrotman, I was born in Kosovo (right by Michigan)! |
| 02:43.15 | bucky | pilgrim: the pid file location is defined by /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 02:43.15 | jammyflynn20 | !tell about kernal |
| 02:43.19 | abrotman | pilgrim: you use `strace <command>` .. and it will show you what it's doing |
| 02:43.27 | abrotman | pilgrim: right by michigan ? |
| 02:43.32 | jammyflynn20 | duh |
| 02:43.36 | pilgrim | heh. |
| 02:43.43 | bucky | !duh |
| 02:43.44 | dpkg | duh is, like, an exclamation showing absence of common knowledge, or <reply> no shit sherlock |
| 02:43.45 | Noisy_1 | I bet pilgrim and abrotman are long lost kindergarten arch-enemies |
| 02:43.48 | abrotman | last i checked .. kosovo is in europe |
| 02:43.56 | pilgrim | Noisy_1, LOL |
| 02:44.03 | theBeno | How can I print text from a while without having it flood tones of text, I want to browse it, enter to see more. |
| 02:44.04 | theBeno | ? |
| 02:44.05 | pilgrim | abrotman, kidding around man. |
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| 02:44.23 | pilgrim | abrotman, besides your American, you're not _supposed_ to know. |
| 02:44.34 | abrotman | pilgrim: about kosovo? |
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| 02:44.54 | pilgrim | abrotman, ahh, nevermind. |
| 02:45.05 | abrotman | pilgrim: i work with an albanian .. we get lots of lectures :) |
| 02:45.20 | pilgrim | abrotman, really. I happen to be albanian too! |
| 02:45.33 | abrotman | pilgrim: maybe you are my co-worker! |
| 02:45.37 | pilgrim | LOL |
| 02:45.47 | pilgrim | abrotman, you work in the computer labs? |
| 02:45.54 | abrotman | labs? |
| 02:46.02 | pilgrim | abrotman, um.yeah. |
| 02:46.18 | abrotman | no |
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| 02:46.44 | pilgrim | abrotman, I guess that's where our similarities end |
| 02:46.56 | abrotman | oh .. i used to while at Uni .. but not in a while |
| 02:47.15 | pilgrim | oh...well, see, I'm still in the Uni. :'( |
| 02:47.21 | abrotman | enjoy it |
| 02:47.26 | dvs | muhahahahah |
| 02:47.34 | neoxan | enjoy the chicks |
| 02:47.35 | neoxan | :D |
| 02:47.44 | wooya510 | Excuse me, I have a Problem. I can complie gcc-3.2 under gcc-4.0. |
| 02:47.49 | pilgrim | neoxan, I happen to be Muslim as well. so none of those. |
| 02:47.55 | pilgrim | till marrage anyway. |
| 02:48.01 | neoxan | oh :) |
| 02:48.05 | neoxan | ok |
| 02:48.13 | shogunx | pilgrim i was wondering how a religion would lead to extiction like that. |
| 02:48.13 | stoned | yeh |
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| 02:48.23 | bucky | pilgrim: is that why Osama has purple lips? |
| 02:48.25 | pilgrim | shogunx, waaa? |
| 02:48.26 | stoned | I also grew up as a muslim' |
| 02:48.29 | stoned | look atm e |
| 02:48.38 | pilgrim | bucky, heh..don't get it. |
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| 02:48.48 | pilgrim | LOL |
| 02:48.50 | stoned | i am getting high |
| 02:48.50 | shogunx | pilgrim no women=no reproduction... |
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| 02:48.58 | stoned | I am going to jahannam |
| 02:49.16 | pilgrim | shogunx, yeah...except the whole trick is not to F around unless otherwise married |
| 02:49.42 | bucky | so where is my apache2 pid ? |
| 02:49.45 | neoxan | britney spears |
| 02:49.45 | neoxan | :D |
| 02:49.49 | pilgrim | LOL |
| 02:49.57 | pilgrim | bucky, good question.... |
| 02:49.59 | stoned | actually, what constites a sin? |
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| 02:50.14 | abrotman | bucky: /var/run/ |
| 02:50.18 | shogunx | pilgrim... there is a logic there. i kind of like taking a car for a test drive before buying tho. |
| 02:50.20 | pilgrim | bucky, since it's chrooted it's in /chroot/apache2/var/run/apache2.pid |
| 02:50.27 | stoned | pilgrim, define religion in terms of #debian? |
| 02:50.47 | Estes | oh my apt ! |
| 02:50.54 | pilgrim | bucky, but in /chroot/apache2/ect/apache2/config.something says "/var/run/apache2.pid |
| 02:50.59 | shogunx | apt-get install dogma? |
| 02:51.03 | stoned | haha |
| 02:51.07 | stoned | good movie |
| 02:51.15 | neoxan | abrotman, why? |
| 02:51.18 | pilgrim | shogunx, is the gas pedal the only thing you get from a car. |
| 02:51.20 | pilgrim | ? |
| 02:51.32 | pilgrim | stoned, it's the KERNEL! |
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| 02:51.52 | stoned | pilgrim, dogma is the KERNEL? |
| 02:52.00 | stoned | wtf are you stoned man? |
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| 02:52.11 | bcc | hi guys, i'm trying to change the refresh rate of my monitor, but editing xorg.conf doesn't seem to change anything. what can i try besides addinga modeline and removing ddc? |
| 02:52.26 | lordnazgu1 | stoned if you want religion as an analogy to linux try talking to a vi guy about emacs or vice versa |
| 02:52.40 | iceman | anyone know how to reconfig sound in old debian based distro ? |
| 02:52.40 | stoned | bcc, read the top comments in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. especially that part about resetting the md5sum |
| 02:52.41 | dvs | lordnazgu1: that's holy war! ;-) |
| 02:52.48 | pilgrim | stoned, what....look man, I value my religion ok? I try to live by it. It helps me out, teaches me what is right and wrong and what's going to be good for me in the long run. |
| 02:53.07 | chops | Does anyone know about non-working printing in sid? I can't find anything in the BTS, and I'm about to file a bug... |
| 02:53.14 | shogunx | pilgrim actually, i prefer cars that do not run on gas... |
| 02:53.28 | miki | bicycles |
| 02:53.29 | stoned | pilgrim, that has to do _what_ with #debian exactly |
| 02:53.39 | shogunx | miki good call |
| 02:53.46 | liable_ | oh ffs, enough about religion already |
| 02:54.00 | shogunx | stoned the conversation forked into it. |
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| 02:54.09 | neoxan | abrotman, why? |
| 02:54.10 | pilgrim | stoned, hey, I didn't start it, ok. Now if you want to ask me anything about me religion message me. If not help me out with apache2. |
| 02:54.15 | bcc | stoned: thanks. doesn't xorg read that file on startup? |
| 02:54.31 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim whats the prob with apache |
| 02:54.45 | stoned | bcc, you have to reset the md5sum on the conf file |
| 02:55.08 | miki | dmesg is showing this for me: 'agpgart: Unsupported Via chipset (device id: 0314), you might want to try agp_try_unsupported=1.' where is this file? |
| 02:55.19 | stoned | bcc, read the commented out part on the beginning of the xorg.conf file |
| 02:55.20 | bcc | stoned: i have to do that so that dpkg treats it as the new config file. what does that have to do with the config options being ignored at x startup? |
| 02:55.23 | bcc | stoned: i don't get it |
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| 02:55.45 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, it's running in chroot env (/chroot/apache2) when I try to stop it with "/etc/init.d/apache2 stop" it works fine untill command is given over to "/usr/sbin/apache2 -k stop" which pukes htis out "httpd (no pid file) not running". |
| 02:55.59 | iceman | dang how to enable debian sound .. on a old debian based distro .. ? |
| 02:56.10 | dvs | !debian based |
| 02:56.10 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 02:56.11 | stoned | bcc, it doesn't have to do with dpkg |
| 02:56.13 | stew | iceman: which distro, what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 02:56.47 | bcc | stoned: are you saying any changes i make don't go into effect until i do that? |
| 02:56.51 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim it is having trouble finding the pid file. which is usually in /var/run/apache2 |
| 02:56.52 | stoned | bcc, if you manually edit the file xorg.conf, you HAVE TO reset the md5sum |
| 02:56.54 | iceman | 2.4.18-5wl |
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| 02:57.05 | stoned | bcc, that is exactly what I am saying |
| 02:57.12 | liable_ | stoned: only if you want dpkg to work with it again. |
| 02:57.15 | stew | stoned: you are wrong |
| 02:57.23 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, I don't know what /usr/sbin/apache2 is doing at all. I'm going to try and strace it. |
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| 02:57.27 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim since you are chrooted, it is probably in the chrooted /var/run not the real one |
| 02:57.27 | bcc | stoned: that's what i'm saying. it'd about updates not about running x. |
| 02:57.28 | stew | bcc: no you definately don't need to update the md5sum for the server to see the options |
| 02:57.40 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, yeah...I thought so. |
| 02:57.43 | bcc | stew: i figured that. |
| 02:57.46 | abrotman | xmd5 isn't needed anymore for xorg iirc |
| 02:57.49 | stew | bcc: how is your monitor connected? vga cable? dvi cable? laptop? |
| 02:57.50 | stoned | stew, as far as I remember you had to do that |
| 02:57.58 | bcc | stew: regular cable. desktop. |
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| 02:58.01 | stew | stoned: no, not at all, you never needed to |
| 02:58.14 | bcc | stew: it seems like it ignores the settings in the conf file. |
| 02:58.17 | abrotman | stoned: not for the options to be seen .. only for dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 to work after that |
| 02:58.35 | stew | bcc: have you looked at the log to see why the others were being ignored or discounted? |
| 02:58.38 | bcc | stew: not all settings, just what has to do with refresh rate. |
| 02:58.42 | stoned | I would modify my XF86Config-4/xorg.conf manually and I would keep restarting X and my changes would NOT take effect. Then I came here and I was told to reset the md5sum if I have manually edited the file. |
| 02:58.45 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim you may want to create a link between the two, i think that might take care of it, although i dont know about the implications of linking in and out of a chroot environment |
| 02:58.49 | stoned | I am not fucking hallucinating this man |
| 02:58.51 | stoned | :/ |
| 02:58.58 | bcc | stew: nah. the conf file is fine. when i change something, like a module, i can see it in the logs |
| 02:59.01 | neoxan | abrotman, why? |
| 02:59.03 | bcc | stew: but not the refresh rate. |
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| 02:59.12 | abrotman | stoned: yes .. with xorg6.8 or xfree .. but not with 6.9 and up |
| 02:59.24 | stoned | abrotman, oh well, ok then |
| 02:59.26 | neoxan | gonna drink some gamma butyrolacton |
| 02:59.27 | neoxan | ) |
| 02:59.29 | neoxan | :) |
| 02:59.29 | stoned | I am not on crazy pills |
| 02:59.34 | stoned | yippy! |
| 02:59.42 | Azar | stoned: you have not been told, the .conf file tells that to you in the first place |
| 02:59.43 | liable_ | wacky weed? |
| 02:59.49 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, well. when I run /chroot/apache2/usr/sbin/apache2 -k stop I get the same error as /usr/sbin/apache2 -k stop. So I dont' know if linking would do anygood. |
| 03:00.03 | stew | stoned: no you are either misunderstanding or misremembering, the md5sum only has to do with the use of dpkg-reconfigure, nothing to do with the actually running of the x server |
| 03:00.25 | stoned | well, I blame the weed man, so should you |
| 03:00.44 | bcc | so guys, any idea on what i could try? |
| 03:00.46 | iceman | 2.4.18-5wl any idea how to set sound ? |
| 03:00.49 | Azar | blame xorg, xfree86 works ok |
| 03:00.53 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim hmmm, (I know this is gonna sound stupid) have you checked that the pid in the pid file is actually listed in ps-e? |
| 03:00.54 | bcc | right now, it's running at 70hz and it's killing my eyes |
| 03:00.54 | jnc | there's nothing wrong with marijuana, until people act like idiots. |
| 03:00.55 | stew | iceman: what version of debian? |
| 03:01.01 | stew | iceman: who compiled that kernel, its not a debian kernel |
| 03:01.08 | stoned | but I remember quite well, and this was a few times I had to do this. I never used dpkg because I run dual head setup, and I have always had to reset the md5sum otherwise it would NEVER take changes and I could just keep restarting X over and over |
| 03:01.09 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, yes. |
| 03:01.14 | stew | bcc: can you put your actual xorg.conf and the log file to a pastebin where we can see them |
| 03:01.25 | stew | stoned: you're wrong |
| 03:01.34 | iceman | stew sadly winlinux ... it uses debian ftp for updates .... so debian based is all ... |
| 03:01.42 | stew | iceman: we can't help you then |
| 03:01.44 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, funny thing is, /etc/init.d/apache2 finds the PID, and doesn't pass this to /usr/sbin/apache2 when calling it. |
| 03:01.57 | stew | iceman: find an irc channel for your distro, or a mailing list |
| 03:02.11 | stoned | stew, does it have to do with xorg latest version in sid, because as far as i know it is like so in sarge |
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| 03:02.16 | iceman | well if debian itself wold install to fat32 and run from loadlin i would go pure debian ... :( |
| 03:02.20 | bcc | http://www.goudkov.com/temp/xorg.conf |
| 03:02.20 | pilgrim | pilgrim, so the useless work is done just to make sure that it's actually running and then apache2 (in sbin) probably tries to do that again. |
| 03:02.24 | stew | stoned: no, its never been the way you describe |
| 03:02.28 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim then i would do a quick check of your init script |
| 03:02.35 | Azar | stoned the correct way to configure is allways using the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86(orxorg) if you want to force it and risk not to work, go and do it by hand in the file |
| 03:02.40 | bcc | http://www.goudkov.com/temp/Xorg.2.log |
| 03:02.41 | Noisy_1 | pretty sure I shouldn't have installed postgresql, but it cant hurt... can it? :S |
| 03:02.55 | bcc | stew: those are the conf and the log |
| 03:02.56 | Azar | xorg is on crack |
| 03:03.05 | stew | Azar: no that's not right either, you can't for instance setup dual headas with dpkg-recofigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:03.08 | stoned | Azar, there is no 'correct' way, really, there is the 'way that works' |
| 03:03.08 | iceman | dang ... i need linux that will run from fat32 ... |
| 03:03.26 | Azar | stoned, stew, what dual head? |
| 03:03.36 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, I did, I modified it a bit to find the correct pid file and thus the actual pid. |
| 03:03.37 | stew | Azar: xinerama |
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| 03:03.47 | Azar | stew, ah... I see, never tried it |
| 03:03.50 | stew | Azar: or just a second screen for that matter |
| 03:04.04 | iceman | idea how to try to config the sound in a 2.4 kernel .. |
| 03:04.09 | stew | bcc: ok, now exactly what is not working that you think should be working |
| 03:04.10 | stew | iceman: wrong channel |
| 03:04.14 | iceman | still using x11 dep |
| 03:04.24 | bcc | stew: refresh rate is 70hz |
| 03:04.31 | bcc | stew: should be 85hz |
| 03:05.02 | bcc | stew: i would even go for 100hz. i think it can handle it. but i can't seem to force it |
| 03:05.12 | dbindner_ | Say, has anyone got Linus' git running on Linux? I grabbed the latest source but it was finicky about compiling. |
| 03:05.20 | stoned | Azar, see thats why I needed to manually edit the xorg.conf. then I would restart X and nothing. no changes would take effect. I came here and was told to update the md5sum |
| 03:05.21 | iceman | find a newer linux distro that will install to fat32 "dos" and boot from loadlin ... shoot ... so have to use what i can find .. |
| 03:05.26 | stoned | im pretty sure of it man |
| 03:05.34 | stew | bcc: ugh, non-free drivers. have you tried the free ones? why didnt' you specify a VertRefresh in xorg.conf? |
| 03:05.36 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim did you modify /etc/apache2/apache2.conf to find the pid file |
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| 03:05.47 | stew | iceman: sorry we can't help you, try ##linux maybe |
| 03:05.49 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim its right at the beginning of the file |
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| 03:06.02 | bcc | stew: non-free is the nvidia's binary driver for opengl |
| 03:06.03 | iceman | stew can not get in the channel .. i tried .. |
| 03:06.17 | bcc | stew: i did, and then i commented it out |
| 03:06.19 | stew | iceman: try to find a mailing list then |
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| 03:06.33 | bcc | stew: it does not seem to make any difference for some reason |
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| 03:07.12 | stew | bcc: its not even saying anything about the modelines, sorry i don't think i'd be able to help. do you need opengl? |
| 03:07.20 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, no because then it stops working when I change /chroot/apache2/etc/apach2/apache2.conf pid file var. |
| 03:07.25 | bcc | stew: yes. i do. |
| 03:07.37 | bcc | i'll try to reload it without it |
| 03:08.35 | LinuxHelp | Hi, where do I find the Sis190.ko kernel module for 2.6.8-amd64-generic? |
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| 03:09.57 | LinuxHelp | 'Caus I'm using http://amd64.debian.net/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ and it doesnt include that module by default |
| 03:10.00 | stew | LinuxHelp: i don't believe support existed for it in 2.6.8, what version of debian are you running? |
| 03:10.25 | LinuxHelp | stew: the above link is all I have |
| 03:10.29 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim take a look at this link. I think that the step at the bottom is what you need |
| 03:10.41 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim oops i forgot the link http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1786 |
| 03:11.01 | stew | LinuxHelp: http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm <- a sarge installer for amd64 with a 2.6.15 kernel |
| 03:12.49 | bucky | LinuxHelp: you are using lowercase 'S' right? |
| 03:13.00 | Rug | Odd NFS problem; I have 2 mount points on my server, (both have identical perms in /etc/exports) one I can mount the other I cannot. Any ideas? |
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| 03:13.41 | LinuxHelp | bucky: um ?? |
| 03:14.02 | stew | Rug: have you run "exportfs -ra" since editing /etc/exports? |
| 03:14.07 | bucky | LinuxHelp: it's sis190.ko not Sis190.ko |
| 03:14.12 | stew | bucky: doesn't matter, that module isn't in 2.6.8 |
| 03:14.13 | Rug | stew: no |
| 03:14.19 | LinuxHelp | bucky: yeah I know :) |
| 03:14.28 | Rug | stew: I'll give that a try. What does it do? |
| 03:14.28 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, this whole "modify everything" stuff is making me question the updatability of apache. I mean what happens if there is an update release, it's going to be hard to apply it, right? |
| 03:14.41 | stew | Rug: rereads the file and reexports the volumes with the new config |
| 03:14.46 | LinuxHelp | stew: theres no download link |
| 03:14.49 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim ??? who knows |
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| 03:14.53 | LinuxHelp | and I cant compile kernels |
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| 03:15.20 | stew | LinuxHelp: there is a download link |
| 03:15.27 | Rug | awesome, thanks.. That did it |
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| 03:15.44 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim although i did find a chroot walkthough that just linked the 2 pid files, so you might try it it might just work |
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| 03:16.22 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, I think I might be onto something. Wait for it.....wait... |
| 03:16.33 | bucky | pilgrim: that's what jailer and jailtool is for |
| 03:16.45 | Noisy_1 | I think I may have overdone my debian install... it's been over an hour now |
| 03:16.51 | kepht | using debarchiver ..inserts packages fine, but how do you remove them? rmcmd doesn't appear to work |
| 03:16.53 | LinuxHelp | stew: ah |
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| 03:17.01 | bucky | pilgrim: and like i said about an hour ago the pid file location is defined by /etc/apache2/apache2.conf |
| 03:17.29 | bucky | or where ever your apache2.conf is |
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| 03:18.43 | deadcat | stew: my fonts still look bad. even though i am only using the /usr/share/fonts/X11 patsh in xorg.conf |
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| 03:19.18 | pilgrim | bucky, yeah I knew that. Didn't help me much. |
| 03:19.34 | bucky | pilgrim: and Slobodan Milo?evi? was a nice guy |
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| 03:20.41 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, here is the thing. I didn't know that in /etc/init.d/apache2 APACHE2 was supposed to be equal to "$ENV /usr/sbin/chroot $CHROOTDIR /usr/sbin/apache2". I though it shouldn't be modified because the makejail example doesn't mention that. |
| 03:20.58 | pilgrim | bucky, was that a statement or a question? |
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| 03:21.47 | diggle | apt-get install openssl |
| 03:21.53 | diggle | should install openssl correct? |
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| 03:23.05 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim did fixing that take care of it? |
| 03:23.09 | unstable | diggle: correct |
| 03:23.14 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, yeah... |
| 03:23.24 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, thanks for all your help. |
| 03:23.24 | unstable | diggle: What are you trying to do? compile something? |
| 03:23.52 | lekvar | How do I make it so my x-terminal-emulator apps have the same nice line editing behavior as the linux console? |
| 03:24.32 | lekvar | I seldome need umlauts but I need to jump and delete forwards and backwards by word quite a lot. |
| 03:24.53 | lordnazgu1 | pilgrim i dont know how much i helped, just blundered through it |
| 03:24.54 | jnc | i think those are emacs keybindings |
| 03:25.33 | jnc | the ^k ^u ^a ^e are derived from emacs, afaik |
| 03:25.55 | jnc | there is also a vi keybinding mode for bash |
| 03:26.02 | pilgrim | lordnazgu1, it's the emotional support that mattered :) also your willingness to help. |
| 03:26.06 | Leler | im using kde. when i try to open a diskette in konqueror, i cant. when i click the diskette icon, it redirects me to media:/fd0. and the disk content is not shown. in the other hand, when i go to the directory /media/floppy, can see the content, but when i try to copy content from my hd to the diskette (cp "file" /media/floppy) it does the job, but really slowly. i tried with a lot of diskettes, and they work fine with window$. any suggestion |
| 03:26.35 | jnc | slowly? |
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| 03:26.41 | lekvar | Whatever they are from, they work a certain way on the console, but seldom in $XTERM, and often differently from install to install and evefrom one xterm type program to another. |
| 03:26.47 | Leler | yep, like 5kb/sec |
| 03:26.55 | shogunx | Leler, floppies are not known for their blazing read/write speed. |
| 03:26.59 | chron | (recovery mode) in grub |
| 03:27.00 | chron | is that normal? |
| 03:27.05 | lekvar | Doesn't this drive everyone else crazy too? |
| 03:27.06 | Leler | i know |
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| 03:27.18 | chron | there's Debian and Debian (recovery mode) is that normal? |
| 03:27.20 | Leler | shogunx "really slowly" |
| 03:27.22 | chron | in grub |
| 03:27.33 | pilgrim | good night everyone :D |
| 03:27.34 | Leler | shogunx it delayed half and hour to copy a 1mb file |
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| 03:28.04 | miki | how can i disable kernel agpgart driver? |
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| 03:28.36 | Leler | anybody knows if this is a bug? |
| 03:28.52 | diggle | well i can apt-get install open-ssl |
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| 03:29.46 | diggle | well i cant apt-get install open-ssl |
| 03:29.53 | diggle | its gibing me errors with ummm |
| 03:29.57 | diggle | wedmin shit. |
| 03:30.24 | jnc | diggle: stable, unstable, or testing? |
| 03:30.35 | Leler | plz help |
| 03:30.42 | diggle | jnc stable |
| 03:30.47 | neoxan | is unstable ok to use? |
| 03:30.53 | neoxan | as desktop system? |
| 03:30.56 | jnc | if you don't need X11 |
| 03:30.58 | diggle | all i need todo is install openssl without webmin |
| 03:30.58 | jnc | heh |
| 03:31.20 | jnc | diggle: try update'ing ? |
| 03:31.57 | jnc | neoxan: unstable is usually okay, minus a few hundred packages |
| 03:31.58 | Leler | can anybody help me? |
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| 03:32.25 | neoxan | mh |
| 03:32.27 | jnc | neoxan: if you would read the topic, it notes that unstable is in an unusable state for X11 related tasks |
| 03:32.49 | neoxan | i thought it would be ok to use, because debian is pretty stable anyway :) |
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| 03:32.53 | Leler | shogunx? |
| 03:33.14 | neoxan | because it takes so long to get stable |
| 03:33.15 | neoxan | :) |
| 03:33.22 | jnc | neoxan: it's been a long time since something in unstable caused say, glibc related problems. those would be serious |
| 03:33.23 | diggle | dpkg: error processing webmin-core (--configure): |
| 03:33.23 | diggle | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.23 | diggle | Setting up webmin-bind (1.180-4) ... |
| 03:33.23 | diggle | dpkg: error processing webmin-bind (--configure): |
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| 03:33.24 | shogunx | Leler I am. that is pretty slow, btw. |
| 03:33.29 | jnc | X11 not working is considered not serious |
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| 03:33.53 | deadcat | i am having problem with my fonts. its really bad. i followed the 69To7 howto but it still ugly. what up? |
| 03:33.54 | jnc | diggle, show some manners please. |
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| 03:34.09 | diggle | jnc sorry :/ |
| 03:34.10 | marnanel | !sid faq |
| 03:34.11 | dpkg | i heard sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 03:34.59 | Leler | here is my mtab: http://pastebin.com/663714 |
| 03:36.33 | bucky | Leler: you've got that floppy drive mounted about 7 times because you've never unmounted it after using it |
| 03:36.36 | diggle | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 03:36.36 | diggle | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.36 | diggle | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.36 | diggle | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.36 | diggle | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 03:36.42 | diggle | sorry |
| 03:36.45 | diggle | wrong botten |
| 03:36.46 | diggle | :/ |
| 03:36.49 | deadcat | tango down! |
| 03:36.51 | diggle | button |
| 03:36.55 | diggle | any ideas. |
| 03:36.58 | miki | how can i disable kernel agpgart driver? |
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| 03:37.06 | Leler | bucky yep. i know :) |
| 03:37.20 | Leler | bucky kde should unmount it... |
| 03:37.33 | diggle | grrr... debian is give me issues today |
| 03:37.33 | bucky | really? |
| 03:37.34 | neoxan | kde sucks |
| 03:37.40 | diggle | gnome is awesome |
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| 03:37.45 | jnc | diggle: it couldn't be your fault, no way |
| 03:37.57 | neoxan | if i download only cd1 from stable, will it install gnome? |
| 03:38.03 | jnc | the mouse is obviously trying to confuse you with its many buttons |
| 03:38.03 | diggle | jnc what was that/ |
| 03:38.05 | neoxan | like it is in testing=? |
| 03:38.07 | Leler | i like kde |
| 03:38.10 | LinuxHelp | yay for stew!!! deth to fedora !!! |
| 03:38.17 | neoxan | ubuntu rocks |
| 03:38.18 | neoxan | :D |
| 03:38.32 | diggle | ubuntu is insecure :/ |
| 03:38.34 | LinuxHelp | deth to u.. oh ;) |
| 03:38.38 | diggle | gentoo is great |
| 03:38.38 | ootput | argh, xorg-sid is still broken :( |
| 03:38.41 | neoxan | who cares? |
| 03:38.43 | bucky | miki: blacklist it if you're running devfs |
| 03:38.44 | jnc | ootput: heh |
| 03:38.49 | neoxan | its just for desktop |
| 03:38.50 | Leler | suse is good |
| 03:38.51 | deadcat | sunday sucks here. |
| 03:38.52 | jnc | ootput: it's not broken, just... missing a few things |
| 03:38.56 | neoxan | i wouldnt use ubuntu for servers |
| 03:39.05 | ootput | jnc: thank god i use ncurse-based apps anyway |
| 03:39.09 | Leler | but debian rox |
| 03:39.10 | jnc | yeah |
| 03:39.11 | LinuxHelp | I'm sorry but I love debian |
| 03:39.18 | jnc | i (heart) screen |
| 03:39.24 | ootput | same |
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| 03:39.41 | ootput | and i have no idea why, by my font @ cli is much nicer |
| 03:39.47 | deadcat | my fonts are f'ed up. please help out. sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/font.png |
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| 03:39.57 | sanmarcos | how can I get my smb mounts to auto mount? |
| 03:40.03 | Leler | daqm diskettes |
| 03:40.05 | jnc | sanmarcos: are you a gnome user? |
| 03:40.10 | deadcat | sanmarcos: /etc/fstab |
| 03:40.17 | sanmarcos | deadcat: smbfs? |
| 03:40.31 | ootput | HEH |
| 03:40.35 | deadcat | sanmarcos: guess so |
| 03:40.36 | neoxan | whats a good music archiver? |
| 03:40.40 | jnc | there's a neat package for gnome that uses pmount to automount things |
| 03:40.43 | neoxan | i got 200gb of mp3s |
| 03:40.47 | neoxan | so amarok sucks |
| 03:40.48 | neoxan | :S |
| 03:40.52 | jnc | it works really well (*if* you use gnome all the time) |
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| 03:41.02 | ootput | deadcat: can't get xorg working, so won't be able to browse your site :D |
| 03:41.12 | jnc | neoxan: amarok db speed hasn't been an issue for me |
| 03:41.18 | deadcat | ootput: DOH!! hahaha. 7.0 fucked you up? too? |
| 03:41.24 | ootput | heh, yeah |
| 03:41.27 | deadcat | hahah |
| 03:41.31 | ootput | you're working in console? |
| 03:41.33 | sanmarcos | hahahah |
| 03:41.34 | neoxan | jnc, do you have 200gb of mp3s?^^ |
| 03:41.42 | deadcat | ootput: no. i have x. just font sucks hell |
| 03:41.47 | ootput | ah |
| 03:41.48 | jnc | neoxan: no, mp3s are terrible quality |
| 03:41.52 | jnc | why would you do that |
| 03:41.56 | neoxan | lol |
| 03:41.57 | sanmarcos | jnc: mp3 > 192 isnt that bad |
| 03:42.05 | jnc | yeah, it is bad, and yes i can tell |
| 03:42.16 | sanmarcos | jnc: aac good enough? |
| 03:42.18 | neoxan | i just need it for my bad pc speakers |
| 03:42.22 | neoxan | so i dont care |
| 03:42.26 | sanmarcos | ogg vorbis, I mean, I dont mind the format, its just that nobody supports it |
| 03:42.31 | neoxan | would hear any diffrence with ogg |
| 03:42.33 | sanmarcos | its some hippie oss shit |
| 03:42.41 | jnc | *achem* rockbox.org |
| 03:42.43 | ootput | at least mpc |
| 03:42.53 | neoxan | multiplayercheats? |
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| 03:43.05 | ootput | musepack |
| 03:43.09 | sanmarcos | flac |
| 03:43.16 | jnc | microsoft's codec, the one for video and audio, it sounds really nice at high bit rate |
| 03:43.25 | jnc | i just will never use it myself |
| 03:43.26 | neoxan | wma? |
| 03:43.27 | neoxan | sucks |
| 03:43.29 | jnc | yeah |
| 03:43.34 | neoxan | wmv also sucks |
| 03:43.40 | sticky | neoxan: your name looks familiar by chance do I know you from somewhere? |
| 03:43.43 | jnc | wma is very nice quality. i won't use it due to the patent reasons |
| 03:43.48 | sticky | wmv and wma are both evil formats. |
| 03:43.49 | diggle | thanks guysi got it :) |
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| 03:43.52 | sanmarcos | jnc: rockbox seems really cool |
| 03:44.04 | neoxan | maybe sticky, i also know youre nick |
| 03:44.06 | sanmarcos | sticky: from last night |
| 03:44.11 | jnc | sanmarcos: you my friend are a hippie, if you have never heard of rockbox ;P |
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| 03:44.17 | sticky | sanmarcos: no, his name reminds of something else :P |
| 03:44.21 | sticky | neoxan: pm? |
| 03:44.27 | neoxan | yeah |
| 03:44.30 | neoxan | :) |
| 03:44.31 | sanmarcos | jnc: neither had I, I ignored it in the news |
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| 03:44.43 | sanmarcos | oss hippies know nothing about marketing |
| 03:44.48 | jnc | q6 oggvorbis is fairly transparent to me |
| 03:44.55 | ootput | reminds me of Nappysan |
| 03:44.58 | jnc | i don't mind it |
| 03:45.08 | iceman | there a way to update to a debian kernel on a old kernel distro ... |
| 03:45.45 | jnc | there's a marked difference in filesize between oggvorbis q5.9 and q6, with not much gain in audio quality. it's enough to be noticable though |
| 03:45.58 | sanmarcos | iceman: source |
| 03:46.13 | ootput | iceman: depending on how old |
| 03:46.18 | jnc | if i was going to preserve a collection, as i have, i'd do it at q6 oggvorbis; or given enough disk space, in FLAC |
| 03:46.26 | iceman | ootput 2.4 based kernel |
| 03:46.29 | bucky | iceman: compile one? http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html#s-kernel-debian |
| 03:46.38 | LinuxHelp | * loading components of the debian installer * |
| 03:47.10 | ootput | iceman: there are some requirements for 2.6 kernel in a file that I believe is called UPDATE (but I'm not too sure) |
| 03:47.10 | LinuxHelp | btw http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm comes highly recommended |
| 03:47.13 | bucky | iceman: how old a version? |
| 03:47.16 | jnc | what the heck is LinuxHelp |
| 03:47.17 | iceman | i need a 2.4 url to use a package manager to update the install ... |
| 03:47.18 | ootput | iceman: gcc version, etc |
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| 03:47.40 | LinuxHelp | jnc: Its what I need a lot of |
| 03:47.50 | jnc | oh, a person? |
| 03:47.51 | iceman | it wants a debian source ... for apt ... |
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| 03:48.15 | ootput | what's 'it'? |
| 03:48.40 | jnc | whatever it is |
| 03:48.44 | jnc | you can get it on ebay |
| 03:48.46 | jnc | *achem* |
| 03:49.02 | ootput | is there a way to utilise dual-monitors while at the command line? |
| 03:49.09 | ootput | rather than a duplicate display? |
| 03:49.10 | deadcat | doubt that |
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| 03:49.16 | jnc | yes |
| 03:49.16 | iceman | anyone have a apt url for debian kernel 2.4 packages |
| 03:49.31 | jnc | it used to be possible with the old matrox cards and fb drivers |
| 03:49.50 | deadcat | iceman: packages.debian.org |
| 03:49.57 | bucky | iceman: how old a version? |
| 03:50.17 | bucky | woody? potato? |
| 03:50.22 | jnc | slink |
| 03:50.30 | jnc | ehheh. that runs on a colour classic |
| 03:50.32 | bucky | serious? |
| 03:50.54 | jnc | i'm hoping to get etch working on a colour classic soon |
| 03:51.01 | deadcat | someone help me with xorg 7.0 fonts. please. its NOT the font path problem. just ugly fonts |
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| 03:51.28 | ootput | deadcat: are you using a .fonts.conf? |
| 03:51.34 | deadcat | ootput: nope |
| 03:51.39 | jnc | deadcat: do you have video drivers in /usr/lib/modules/* ? |
| 03:51.41 | deadcat | ootput: just the default stuff. |
| 03:51.42 | jnc | err |
| 03:51.53 | jnc | i meant to ask if you had video drivers in /usr/lib/xorg/* |
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| 03:52.27 | deadcat | jnc: ya. the nvidia is in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o |
| 03:52.33 | ootput | deadcat: i'd link to mine, but that'd end up @ metawire |
| 03:52.39 | jnc | deadcat: oh... hmm |
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| 03:52.46 | jnc | deadcat: i don't have any drivers there on mine |
| 03:52.50 | deadcat | ootput: they fled the country. (= |
| 03:52.51 | ootput | deadcat: but another good one is the one offered @ gentoo-wiki |
| 03:52.59 | jnc | any amd64 users running unstable at the moment? |
| 03:53.06 | jnc | i wonder if this is just a problem for me |
| 03:53.23 | deadcat | jnc: my X start. just ugly fonts. that has to do with driver too? |
| 03:53.33 | ootput | deadcat: you're using etch? |
| 03:53.33 | jnc | no no |
| 03:53.38 | deadcat | ootput: sid |
| 03:53.45 | ootput | son of a bitch |
| 03:53.52 | deadcat | i am guessing /etc/fonts/fonts.conf but i didnt change that file in a while. |
| 03:54.23 | shogunx | deadcat local font server running? |
| 03:54.36 | deadcat | shogunx: no local font server. jsut the font paths |
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| 03:54.45 | sanmarcos | what is the escape \ character for ( and ) |
| 03:54.47 | deadcat | shogunx: i never had font server before and it was fine |
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| 03:55.02 | deadcat | sanmarcos: \( and \) |
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| 03:55.52 | deadcat | my fonts used to be like this: http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/font.png the part with the (=, now they look like whats on that screenshot |
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| 03:56.12 | deadcat | notice the gtk2 fonts are fine. just the fonts on some wbesites. |
| 03:56.13 | LinuxHelp | "Installing the Debian base system" w00t finally a proper distro |
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| 03:56.33 | iceman | boy how to update this old anchiend 2003 debian distro ... |
| 03:56.45 | deadcat | and i didnt do anything to the firefox config either. all fonts used to look like the (= section |
| 03:56.46 | jnc | iceman: ancient. |
| 03:56.54 | sanmarcos | deadcat: for spaces it is \040 (I am trying to put my smb share with spaces and ( ) in fstab |
| 03:57.03 | powder | yes woot indeed |
| 03:57.31 | deadcat | sanmarcos: dont know. i dont use samba much |
| 03:57.37 | wlnet | deadcat: which version of firefox r u using? |
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| 03:57.52 | deadcat | ii firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla |
| 03:58.14 | wookienz | being a compiling noob: if i have the source of a file can i compile it on my debian box to work on a MIPS processor access point? as the AP doesnt have compilers on it.\ |
| 03:58.19 | deadcat | i guess i am trying to see if i am the only one having this problem or not. |
| 03:58.26 | ootput | deadcat: out of curiosity, do you do anything speciial to get xorg to work? |
| 03:58.37 | ootput | besides installing experimental? |
| 03:58.39 | jnc | wookienz: that process is known as cross-compiling |
| 03:58.44 | LinuxHelp | deadcat: out of curiosity haha |
| 03:58.44 | deadcat | ootput: nope. just upgrade to the latest packages. what error you getting? |
| 03:58.46 | wlnet | deadcat: the .css file determines the font type for firefox. |
| 03:58.54 | jnc | wookienz: perhaps ask in #sveasoft about cross-compiling |
| 03:58.55 | deadcat | ootput: i didnt get anything from experimental. |
| 03:59.07 | sanmarcos | !svn |
| 03:59.08 | deadcat | LinuxHelp: haha? (= |
| 03:59.08 | dpkg | it has been said that subversion is a compelling replacement for CVS, or available at http://subversion.tigris.org/ read the book: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/, or it adds: atomic commits and file renaming/copying, very tight network protocol. at #svn |
| 03:59.21 | LinuxHelp | curiosity killed the deadcat |
| 03:59.29 | deadcat | wlnet: the funny thing is that i KNOW the css file didnt change. |
| 03:59.35 | deadcat | LinuxHelp: haha. good one |
| 03:59.41 | jnc | yeah |
| 03:59.53 | wlnet | LinuxHelp: u can kill a cat that is already dead. |
| 04:00.02 | wlnet | i mean u can't. |
| 04:00.09 | ootput | deadcat: xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server |
| 04:00.12 | deadcat | wlnet: i am guessing its xorg 7.0 fault. but i want to make sure |
| 04:00.13 | LinuxHelp | Well actually you can kill it 9 timesw |
| 04:00.16 | jnc | 10th time is a charm? |
| 04:00.20 | ootput | xinit: no such process |
| 04:00.36 | LinuxHelp | well, technically it dies at the end of 9 |
| 04:00.42 | ootput | but i'll try syncing up to f.d.o |
| 04:00.52 | wlnet | deadcat: 1.5 has a complicated way of determining the default .css file to use. u may want to read up on it. |
| 04:00.53 | deadcat | ootput: what the hell. usually you get the font error. what xserver-xorg packages you have? i have -core -input-kdb -input-mouse -video-nv |
| 04:00.57 | LinuxHelp | but experts in the field debate this point |
| 04:01.13 | deadcat | wlnet: oh shit. |
| 04:01.28 | deadcat | wlnet: but when i upgrade to 7.0 firefox didnt get upgraded though. and it was working fine before |
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| 04:02.25 | deadcat | wlnet: the font used to look like this: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060228_8299.png?orig smooth and shit |
| 04:03.29 | wlnet | deadcat: in that case it could be 7.0 could be the culprit. |
| 04:03.51 | deadcat | wlnet: it has to be. i am just wondering if anyone else have this problem.. |
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| 04:04.00 | ootput | deadcat: oh. aptitude must've removed them due to missing dependencies. I didn't bother to manually check if each one was installed |
| 04:04.04 | ootput | i'll try it out now |
| 04:04.08 | deadcat | anyone with xorg 7.0 running? |
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| 04:04.35 | LinuxHelp | lol at the window title quotes in that ping |
| 04:04.41 | LinuxHelp | *png |
| 04:04.41 | deadcat | ootput: if it fails. edit xorg.conf to change the font paths |
| 04:04.58 | ootput | yeah, i read that somwhere on a blog someplace |
| 04:04.59 | wlnet | deadcat: how to find out the version of xorg i m using? |
| 04:05.06 | ootput | more specifically, p.d.o |
| 04:05.12 | deadcat | wlnet: dpkg -l |grep xorg |
| 04:05.32 | jnc | deadcat: what version of xorg-driver-video-all ? |
| 04:05.35 | jnc | err |
| 04:05.38 | jnc | xserver-... |
| 04:05.45 | deadcat | jnc: i only installed video-nv |
| 04:05.52 | jnc | oh |
| 04:05.52 | deadcat | and i am using nvidia-source |
| 04:05.55 | jnc | i'm missing the others |
| 04:06.09 | wlnet | deadcat: mine is 6.9.0. |
| 04:06.11 | jnc | i apt-get source'd the video driver package, and it's missing any source |
| 04:06.19 | deadcat | wlnet: 69 was fine for me |
| 04:06.53 | wlnet | deadcat: y not return to 6.9 then? |
| 04:07.11 | deadcat | wlnet: i dont think i can downgrade. it requires downing libc6 i think |
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| 04:07.27 | deadcat | thats why i havent upgraded my ibook to 7.0 yet. heheh |
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| 04:08.14 | wlnet | deadcat: u r truly dead then. |
| 04:08.51 | shogunx | deadcat... try building from source. |
| 04:08.52 | ootput | deadcat: is nvidia still an option for xorg.conf? I can't seem to pull in nvidia-glx due to missing nvidia-kernel |
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| 04:09.27 | deadcat | shogunx: too much work |
| 04:09.41 | shogunx | 4 shell commands? |
| 04:09.51 | shogunx | 2 cvs and 2 make. |
| 04:09.54 | deadcat | ootput: what the. update your sources? it works for me. |
| 04:10.09 | deadcat | shogunx: xorg 7? |
| 04:10.20 | jnc | ootput: for xorg7, i'm having to build the drivers myself |
| 04:10.21 | shogunx | if you want to revert. |
| 04:10.27 | deadcat | ootput: build the latest nvidia-source and install that first |
| 04:10.30 | jnc | i.e. dpkg-source .... ; dpkg-buildpackage... |
| 04:10.31 | ootput | alright |
| 04:10.44 | deadcat | shogunx: oh. nah its ok. it gives me reason to be piss for few days (= |
| 04:10.49 | shogunx | heh |
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| 04:11.15 | deadcat | i just want to know that i am not alone thats all. |
| 04:11.36 | jnc | deadcat: #believe (not really) |
| 04:11.58 | jnc | holy crap! the ati module built |
| 04:12.04 | jnc | i may acutally get xorg7 running soon |
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| 04:13.48 | Malder | I think I've broken apt. I have a couple packages that tell me "E: Broken Pacages" or something similar. Where should I start looking for the problem? |
| 04:14.28 | ootput | Malder: aptitude can examine ('e') the problem |
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| 04:16.28 | littleball | hello, how can i check whether my DNS server works? i want to trace the DNS lookup used by the browser and find out which DNS server it used to resolve the domain name |
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| 04:17.16 | Malder | ootput: is there something under 'Tasks' that can examine this problem? |
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| 04:19.13 | jnc | littleball: it used whatever you have in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 04:20.00 | littleball | jnc, i remove all from /etc/resolv.conf, it still can resolve |
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| 04:20.33 | bucky | littleball: dig @server name type - man dig |
| 04:21.19 | jnc | littleball: libnss is referred to for what dns resolving needs to be done, AFAIK |
| 04:21.37 | jnc | that's covered by /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 04:22.10 | deadcat | oh girl |
| 04:22.16 | ootput | rude |
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| 04:23.07 | jetscreamer | ok so sid finally didn't want to uninstall * finally, so i let it install the new xorg. but i haven't rebooted/restarted x... so is it still using the old xorg(i assume so) or what |
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| 04:23.49 | neoxan | sry |
| 04:23.51 | neoxan | :s |
| 04:23.57 | deadcat | you werent sorry you fuck |
| 04:24.07 | neoxan | i am |
| 04:24.08 | neoxan | :( |
| 04:24.15 | bucky | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.17 | deadcat | you would be sorry after the first one. |
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| 04:25.13 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 04:25.21 | deadcat | jetscreamer: yes |
| 04:25.30 | deadcat | else it would have been broken hehe |
| 04:25.39 | Gnea | jetscreamer: it's running whatever was installed before, yes |
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| 04:25.48 | deadcat | Gnea: you on 7? |
| 04:25.53 | Gnea | if you don't restart it then youare a fool :) |
| 04:25.54 | bucky | my xorg decided to work for some reason :) |
| 04:26.00 | Gnea | i don't know, let me check |
| 04:26.12 | deadcat | bucky: you on 7? |
| 04:26.15 | Gnea | X Window System Version 6.9.0 (Debian 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 20060114230205 David Nusino |
| 04:26.15 | Gnea | w <dnusinow@debian.org>) |
| 04:26.16 | bucky | yes |
| 04:26.20 | Gnea | i guess not. |
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| 04:26.30 | deadcat | bucky: your fonts ok on firefox? |
| 04:26.31 | Gnea | even tho i did an upgrade yesterday |
| 04:26.41 | jetscreamer | and i don't want to mess with it yet |
| 04:26.52 | bucky | deadcat: same as before.. ok :\ |
| 04:27.03 | Gnea | ah, xserver-xorg didn't get caught up then |
| 04:27.10 | Gnea | jetscreamer: why not? the fixes are already known |
| 04:27.17 | deadcat | bucky: mine looks like this after upgrade. sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/font.png see how it look like if you go to slickdeals.net |
| 04:27.24 | Gnea | that's what the URL in the /topic tells you how to fix it |
| 04:27.31 | jnc | deadcat: what's the package name of xorg7 fonts? |
| 04:27.38 | jetscreamer | i'm encoding |
| 04:27.44 | jetscreamer | and didn't do it in console |
| 04:27.47 | jetscreamer | jsut an xterm |
| 04:27.50 | jetscreamer | no screen |
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| 04:28.17 | deadcat | jnc: i have xfonts-{100dpi,75dpi,base,encodings,scalable} |
| 04:28.20 | Noisy_1 | I installed and Xsomething says it cant start... I think I need to configure my refresh rate to 60hz, res at 800x600, and colour at 24-bit. How do I do this from CLI? |
| 04:28.32 | jnc | deadcat: okay, it's xfonts somethingorother? |
| 04:28.35 | jetscreamer | !hwinfo |
| 04:28.35 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hwinfo is your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 04:28.49 | jetscreamer | then drxx |
| 04:28.58 | jetscreamer | !tell Noisy_1 -about drxx |
| 04:29.02 | bucky | deadcat: how about ttf-bitstream-vera 1.10-5 ? |
| 04:29.04 | deadcat | jnc: ? |
| 04:29.25 | deadcat | bucky: i have ttf-{bitstream-versa,freefont,opensymbol} |
| 04:29.26 | ootput | are any of you using 2.6.16 and nvidia? |
| 04:29.39 | kelmo | yes |
| 04:29.41 | Gnea | deadcat: why do you have retard drawings on your screenshot? :) |
| 04:29.42 | deadcat | Supaplex: same version |
| 04:29.47 | jetscreamer | ootput: the fix is known in #nvidia i believe |
| 04:29.55 | ootput | ah, alright |
| 04:29.56 | deadcat | Gnea: bad mouse (= |
| 04:30.01 | cat | deadcat: screenshot? |
| 04:30.02 | Gnea | deadcat: hahaha |
| 04:30.08 | cat | i want to see (: |
| 04:30.17 | deadcat | ootput: ? i am on 2.6.14 custom kernel and latest nvidia |
| 04:30.22 | Gnea | cat: if you paid attention, you would |
| 04:30.28 | deadcat | cat: screenshot of the ugly drawing? |
| 04:30.30 | sanmarcos | Lucida Grande is the best |
| 04:30.31 | cat | i wasn't here |
| 04:30.31 | jnc | deadcat: i was missing xfonts-utils package |
| 04:30.35 | deadcat | cat: sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/font.png |
| 04:30.36 | cat | yeah deadcat |
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| 04:30.41 | jnc | deadcat: i have to build it and install some fonts packages ;) |
| 04:30.43 | jetscreamer | deadcat: 15 works, but .16 something breaks, or did |
| 04:30.43 | deadcat | jnc: i have that package too |
| 04:30.44 | neoxan | is anyone using xirssi? |
| 04:30.57 | jnc | my guess is that amd64 builds are not yet caught up |
| 04:31.05 | Gnea | xirssi? what's the point? |
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| 04:31.33 | neoxan | i want to try it |
| 04:31.34 | neoxan | :) |
| 04:31.39 | deadcat | jetscreamer: i am on .14 |
| 04:31.54 | jnc | xirssi sounds pointless |
| 04:31.55 | Gnea | just use xchat then |
| 04:32.02 | Gnea | irssi is a console-based irc client |
| 04:32.09 | jnc | would rather use irssi with screen |
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| 04:32.10 | signature16 | i have usermod enabled on apache and chmod -R ~usernameX/ why wont apache allow my browser to se the contents of a directory when i go to www.domain.com/~usernameX |
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| 04:32.47 | Gnea | making a gui version is like attaching a jet engine to a pigeon |
| 04:32.48 | jnc | oh no |
| 04:32.53 | deadcat | bucky: can you screenshot your firefox on slickdeals.net for me? |
| 04:32.58 | jnc | signature16: you have likely poofed your perms |
| 04:32.58 | Noisy_1 | "Enter the amount of memory, in kb, to be used by your video card." |
| 04:32.59 | neoxan | theres a guy version |
| 04:33.04 | neoxan | called xirssi |
| 04:33.05 | neoxan | :) |
| 04:33.09 | deadcat | Noisy_1: enter |
| 04:33.14 | neoxan | s/guy/gui |
| 04:33.16 | Gnea | signature16: because you didn't set any parameters |
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| 04:33.46 | Gnea | neoxan: i realize that. and it's stupid and pointless. and there's no debian package for it, so therefore we don't support it. go elsewhere. |
| 04:33.57 | neoxan | lol |
| 04:34.00 | neoxan | friendly |
| 04:34.01 | neoxan | :P |
| 04:34.17 | signature16 | Gnea: hmm how do i fix that? is that in the conf file? |
| 04:34.19 | Gnea | indeed |
| 04:34.32 | Gnea | signature16: you said you used chmod, but you didn't use it right |
| 04:34.50 | signature16 | Gnea: chmod -R 775 /home/userX |
| 04:35.10 | Gnea | signature16: you need to learn what that does before doing it. |
| 04:35.15 | Gnea | !tell signature16 about newbie_guide |
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| 04:35.37 | Gnea | signature16: you basically just invited the world to exploit your system. have a nice day. |
| 04:35.50 | neoxan | :/ |
| 04:35.59 | ootput | jetscreamer: can't see it mentioned in topic |
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| 04:36.41 | Gnea | ootput: what's not in topic? |
| 04:37.40 | Noisy_1 | ok |
| 04:37.42 | ootput | Gnea: in #nvidia, something that addresses 2.6.16 and driver |
| 04:37.53 | jetscreamer | ask |
| 04:37.58 | Noisy_1 | i did that thing jet |
| 04:38.06 | Noisy_1 | how do I start the GUI? |
| 04:38.14 | cat | how can you play avi or mpg files on mozilla? |
| 04:38.21 | cat | is there any packages? |
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| 04:38.30 | jetscreamer | /etc/init.d/?dm restart or just startx if you don't use a dm |
| 04:38.38 | Gnea | ootput: good point, it's not there - but yeah, #nvidia would be the place to ask |
| 04:38.45 | jetscreamer | cat there are many |
| 04:39.00 | jetscreamer | mplayer-vlc-plugin, mplayer, xine, others i think... |
| 04:39.13 | Gnea | cat: apt-cache search mozilla movie |
| 04:39.26 | cat | cannot play that plugin |
| 04:39.30 | jetscreamer | all mozilla-whatevers |
| 04:39.52 | Noisy_1 | XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining |
| 04:39.58 | jetscreamer | !find mozilla-vlc |
| 04:40.27 | Noisy_1 | any thoughts before I kick this pos out the window? |
| 04:40.31 | Noisy_1 | ;P |
| 04:40.45 | Gnea | Noisy_1: yeah: get a clue. :) what are you trying to do now? |
| 04:40.49 | unix_infidel | xgl? |
| 04:40.54 | jetscreamer | less /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 04:41.01 | deadcat | where did bucky go? |
| 04:41.04 | Noisy_1 | I switched to default VGA driver |
| 04:41.23 | Gnea | what for? |
| 04:41.29 | Noisy_1 | put hsyc at 60 vsync at 60, colour at 16 res ar 640x480/800x600 |
| 04:41.31 | bucky | deadcat: ftp://dino.dyn-o-saur.com/slickdeals.jpg |
| 04:41.33 | Noisy_1 | restarted x |
| 04:42.13 | deadcat | ftp is slow |
| 04:42.36 | bucky | deadcat: ftp://dino.dyn-o-saur.com/janet_justin.jpg |
| 04:43.39 | deadcat | bucky: sure its ftp? its not working |
| 04:43.49 | bucky | deadcat: my firewall changed.. one sec |
| 04:43.52 | deadcat | k |
| 04:44.26 | deadcat | there we go |
| 04:44.45 | deadcat | bucky: ya. i want your font. |
| 04:45.19 | Noisy_1 | XIO fatal IO error 104 (... etc. |
| 04:45.22 | bucky | i didn't do anything other than apt-get dist-upgrade to unstable |
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| 04:45.57 | deadcat | hmm. can you post your /etc/fonts/fonts.conf file? |
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| 04:46.38 | bucky | deadcat: /j #flood |
| 04:46.52 | deadcat | bucky: i need to copy it. flood dont do me no good |
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| 04:47.21 | bucky | oh.. it's huge |
| 04:47.27 | deadcat | ya |
| 04:51.33 | Noisy_1 | XIO fatal IO error 104 etc. |
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| 04:51.59 | Noisy_1 | my video card sucks at linux |
| 04:52.52 | Noisy_1 | enough for tonight |
| 04:52.52 | bucky | deadcat: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2366 |
| 04:54.08 | deadcat | k. time to restart x |
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| 04:54.51 | Gcastin | hi =D |
| 04:55.26 | deadcat | each time fonts packages upgrade my font gets fucked. i had to fix. this time its more fuck i guess |
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| 04:56.45 | jetscreamer | dx50 is divx5 isn't it |
| 04:56.47 | Gcastin | i'm trying to mount this SD memory card , that I pluged into this SD reader , i ran sg_scan -=> i get: /dev/sg0: scsi0 channel=0 id=0 lun=0 [em] |
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| 04:57.34 | punsad | gotta question... I'm using peapod to get podcasts and I'm having them downloaded to a directory which I then stream all mp3s from. However, the read/write permision is not correct so the files can't be streamed. How to fix this? |
| 04:57.35 | LinuxHelp | guys, keep up the good work: debian is about 37 times better than that beast that goes by the name of fedora |
| 04:57.39 | Gcastin | and i ran sg_map i get /dev/sg0 /dev/sda ,, but when i try to mount -=> using mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/sda it says i must specifiy the filesysstem type |
| 04:57.44 | Gcastin | anybody can assist? |
| 04:57.45 | punsad | is there a way to have all the downloaded files to be chmoded 755? |
| 04:57.55 | punsad | automatically.. that is? |
| 04:58.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 758] by debhelper |
| 04:58.42 | punsad | the streaming software, btw, is gnump3d... it's awesome |
| 04:58.47 | jnc | punsad: :) |
| 04:58.55 | Gcastin | never heard of it |
| 04:59.04 | jnc | punsad: why would you set execute bit on an mp3 file? |
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| 04:59.37 | punsad | jnc... oh.. I guess it should be 644... (no?) |
| 04:59.56 | jnc | 644 for user files, 755 for user directories. that's pretty normal |
| 05:00.14 | jnc | you need execute bit on directories in order to get a file listing from them (ls in example) |
| 05:00.18 | Gnea | 711 for user dirs is better |
| 05:00.26 | Gnea | or 4711 |
| 05:00.39 | jnc | the 4 sets sticky bit? |
| 05:00.40 | Gnea | especially if there's a public_html, which can be 755 |
| 05:00.46 | deadcat | jnc: yes |
| 05:00.47 | Gnea | no, that's +t |
| 05:00.51 | ootput | does dpkg-buildpackage create a .deb file? |
| 05:00.54 | Gcastin | do i have ot install a DOS File system support? if so whats the name? |
| 05:00.56 | Gnea | 4 sets suid |
| 05:00.59 | Gnea | 2 sets sgid |
| 05:01.26 | Gnea | Gcastin: it should autoload as vfat |
| 05:01.30 | deadcat | ootput: if you have the debian/rules script |
| 05:01.34 | jnc | oh i didn't see that documented anywhere. the n00b guide to permissions always leaves out the first of four octets |
| 05:01.58 | Gnea | the first are for advanced users |
| 05:02.01 | Gcastin | i dont want to autoload on hotplug /boot, i just want to get my pictures from the SD memory |
| 05:02.14 | Gnea | still, 711 falls within the n00b parameters :) |
| 05:02.28 | Gcastin | the command i tried was -> mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/sda |
| 05:02.34 | Gnea | if you test different numbers on various files/dirs, you can see their effect |
| 05:02.39 | deadcat | fucking fonts still sucks. i give up. |
| 05:02.45 | Johnny_5 | i can't seem to get my debian box to mount my external hdd |
| 05:02.49 | jnc | Gcastin: try fdisk -l /dev/sda as root |
| 05:02.55 | jnc | see if it has partitions you recognize |
| 05:02.59 | Gcastin | kk lemt me try |
| 05:03.04 | jnc | if it does, you might need to do /dev/sda1 |
| 05:03.11 | nvz_ | wtf good is a 711 permission? |
| 05:03.31 | deadcat | nvz_: someone can cd in. but cant ls |
| 05:03.36 | starfishy | 711 = rwx--x--x |
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| 05:03.52 | starfishy | yup |
| 05:03.56 | starfishy | thats exactly it |
| 05:03.57 | Gnea | exactly. |
| 05:03.57 | nvz_ | deadcat: oh |
| 05:04.01 | ootput | deadcat: yep, i do. |
| 05:04.07 | starfishy | the x bit on directories allows cd into it |
| 05:04.15 | starfishy | but without r they cant ls |
| 05:04.16 | deadcat | ootput: then you should be able to build it |
| 05:04.20 | Gnea | but no one can read it unless they own it |
| 05:04.28 | Gnea | but if you 755 any subdir |
| 05:04.29 | Gcastin | uggh, thats my hard drive ? Disk /dev/sda: 120.0 GB, 120000000000 bytes |
| 05:04.30 | starfishy | xactly |
| 05:04.35 | Gnea | :) |
| 05:04.39 | jnc | starfishy, cd and also list contents is covered by x |
| 05:04.44 | jnc | i think? |
| 05:04.46 | Gcastin | i dont' even know if the usb drive is working =| |
| 05:04.56 | jnc | you say that read bit covers listing contents |
| 05:04.58 | Gcastin | i have a usb multi-card reader |
| 05:05.01 | Gnea | Gcastin: you just need to partition it |
| 05:05.11 | ootput | deadcat: ah, i was looking in the wrong places for the generated .deb |
| 05:05.14 | ootput | ../ |
| 05:05.19 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:05.22 | Gnea | yeah, same here - it's going to be a partition |
| 05:05.32 | Gnea | Gcastin: what kernel are you running and what branch of debian? |
| 05:05.42 | bucky | deadcat: did you restart X ? |
| 05:05.45 | Gcastin | the SD memory is 128MB, not 120GB lol. well /dev/sda must be my SATA hard drive i poped in long ago. |
| 05:05.50 | Gcastin | SID |
| 05:05.50 | deadcat | bucky: yes. everything. same result. |
| 05:05.59 | deadcat | bucky: its even worst using your fonts.conf file. )= |
| 05:06.13 | bucky | deadcat: apt-cache show fontconfig |
| 05:06.14 | epsilon | 128GB SD... mjam |
| 05:06.20 | Gcastin | i had this working long ago, i remember isntalling something via apt-get , and it was some kind of other file system |
| 05:06.21 | jnc | starfishy: i just tried that... you're 100% on it. heh |
| 05:06.22 | bucky | look at how it works |
| 05:06.25 | Gnea | yo where can i get one? :D |
| 05:06.41 | Gcastin | something that supports FAT16, FAT, FAT32 |
| 05:06.44 | Gnea | Gcastin: that's nice, you still haven't finished answering my question. |
| 05:06.50 | punsad | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.11 | starfishy | jnc: i used to teach Solaris :_ |
| 05:07.12 | starfishy | :) |
| 05:07.31 | deadcat | you mean fc-list ? |
| 05:08.11 | jnc | (uid,gid,sticky)=(4,2,1) (read,write,execute)=(4,2,1) |
| 05:08.14 | jnc | is that accurate? |
| 05:08.17 | deadcat | bucky: could it because i am using -dpi 75 ? |
| 05:08.19 | Johnny_5 | i get errors just by turning the external hd on and then i mount /dev/sda1 /media/external -t vfat |
| 05:08.21 | jnc | need to commit this stuff to memory |
| 05:08.36 | Gcastin | ah i dont know what kernel version, i installed it from KnoppMyth |
| 05:08.44 | Gcastin | let me check thier website, i'm sure they will list it |
| 05:08.52 | Gnea | Gcastin: cat /proc/version |
| 05:08.58 | jnc | Gcastin: uname -r |
| 05:08.59 | Gcastin | kk let me do that then |
| 05:08.59 | Gnea | Gcastin: why are you using a knoppix kernel with debian? |
| 05:09.01 | starfishy | gcastin: uname -r |
| 05:09.07 | starfishy | hehehe, jnc beat me to it |
| 05:09.17 | Gcastin | 2.6.15-chw-2 |
| 05:09.18 | jnc | i'd hit it, with a baseball bat |
| 05:09.24 | Gnea | lol |
| 05:09.35 | Gnea | Gcastin: ok, you need to be using an official debian kernel. |
| 05:09.44 | starfishy | apparently my Xorg 7.0 upgrade worked on first try |
| 05:09.45 | Gnea | can't help you any further until you do. |
| 05:09.53 | Gcastin | ah ok |
| 05:10.01 | jnc | starfishy: boo, you whore! (i am joking) |
| 05:10.03 | Gnea | just so you know.... |
| 05:10.04 | Gnea | !knoppix |
| 05:10.05 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. don't forget to ask me about <Based On Debian> |
| 05:10.15 | starfishy | *g* |
| 05:10.37 | Gcastin | i'll ask elsewhere sorry to disturb you Gnea. |
| 05:10.47 | jnc | he is well enough disturbed |
| 05:10.52 | jnc | without you to further mess things up |
| 05:10.55 | jnc | got that? ;P |
| 05:11.01 | Johnny_5 | i just did dmesg | tail |
| 05:11.02 | Gnea | Gcastin: i'm just letting you know, that's all. :) |
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| 05:11.13 | Gnea | no need to go all ballistic over it |
| 05:11.18 | Johnny_5 | congo:/home/nix0r# dmesg | tail |
| 05:11.18 | Johnny_5 | hub.c: new USB device 00:10.3-3, assigned address 54 |
| 05:11.18 | Johnny_5 | usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout |
| 05:11.18 | Johnny_5 | usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=54 (error=-110) |
| 05:11.18 | Johnny_5 | hub.c: new USB device 00:10.3-3, assigned address 55 |
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| 05:11.32 | Gnea | classic. |
| 05:11.40 | powder | lol |
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| 05:11.52 | Gnea | !tell Johnny_5 about paster |
| 05:11.56 | jnc | i wouldn't feel so bad if people were manually typing in these messages |
| 05:12.07 | Johnny_5 | oh |
| 05:12.09 | Gcastin | ya i know, i'm not going ballistic. |
| 05:12.35 | jnc | Gcastin: no, it's okay. just wait a few days |
| 05:12.41 | Gnea | but you're definately running debian sid, right? and you just used some knoppix-derived kernel from another site on the system? |
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| 05:13.01 | Gcastin | ya |
| 05:13.05 | Gnea | Gcastin: trust me, i'm being very nice - there are those that would do much, much worse |
| 05:13.16 | Gnea | ok cool |
| 05:13.25 | Gcastin | much worse on what? |
| 05:13.27 | Gnea | yeah, just apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.16 |
| 05:13.31 | Gnea | attitude :) |
| 05:13.35 | Gcastin | ah ok |
| 05:13.47 | powder | they'll give it to you good and h ard |
| 05:13.49 | deadcat | linux-image right? |
| 05:13.50 | starfishy | gcastin: just curious, what would make one use a kernel from knoppmyth on debian? |
| 05:13.55 | Gnea | er |
| 05:13.57 | Gnea | yeah |
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| 05:14.00 | Gnea | linux-image-2.6.16 |
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| 05:14.08 | deadcat | i fucking hate linux fonts |
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| 05:14.20 | doom22 | hi |
| 05:14.23 | Gcastin | starfishy, i'm just using this machine as a PVR |
| 05:14.28 | Gnea | in soviet russia, linux fonts fuck your hate!! |
| 05:14.39 | tech | does anybody know a way to start a program as root |
| 05:14.42 | doom22 | German? |
| 05:14.44 | starfishy | still, why the combination? |
| 05:14.47 | Gcastin | knoppmyth was the easiest to install with the packages for mythtv ready to go, so thats the only reason i choose it. |
| 05:14.48 | deadcat | tech: sudo |
| 05:14.50 | Gnea | !de |
| 05:14.51 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 05:15.21 | Gnea | Gcastin: so you really installed knoppmyth? |
| 05:15.29 | tech | deadcat: yeap, I know that works, but I need to start a program in gnome with an icon without a terminal |
| 05:15.37 | starfishy | so you are not running debian at all? |
| 05:15.56 | Johnny_5 | so what do i need to do to fix this?? |
| 05:15.57 | deadcat | tech: so sudo gnome-app |
| 05:16.13 | doom22 | Hello, i need help, i have a vpn connecting to my dedicated server and i wants go to inet over my dedicated server. The iptables are correct configuriert but i cant surf etc.... the ping running over dedicated server in net but the another application not run... help me please |
| 05:16.14 | Gnea | Johnny_5: do fix what? |
| 05:16.24 | powder | tech, gksu program |
| 05:16.24 | Gcastin | Gnea -> ya i just wanted to try it out, but i run regular debian installs at work, |
| 05:16.38 | tech | deadcat howdo you do that, just putting it in front of the command? |
| 05:16.45 | deadcat | yes |
| 05:16.47 | Gnea | !based on debian |
| 05:16.47 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 05:16.49 | Gcastin | worry not, i still play it safe with original debian. |
| 05:17.04 | Gnea | !tell Gcastin about based on debian |
| 05:17.16 | Gnea | Gcastin: you are now on /ignore |
| 05:17.28 | Gcastin | i wasn't going to message you |
| 05:17.28 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:17.50 | recall | *sigh* is there something funky about KDE's Date and Time settings? When I log in to root to switch the time-zone, it always goes back to UTC for my user. |
| 05:17.51 | Gnea | deadcat: these kids think they're smart or something |
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| 05:18.12 | deadcat | Gnea: let him fuck himself up |
| 05:18.19 | recall | yet still says America/New York in the time zone combo box... |
| 05:18.22 | Gcastin | alright alright, i get it, i'll leave. |
| 05:18.46 | Gnea | recall: as root" |
| 05:18.51 | Gnea | recall: as root? |
| 05:19.03 | recall | Gnea, as the user |
| 05:19.08 | Johnny_5 | my usb ports that have something plugged in are timed out....i guess make it where i can mount me external hdd. plus i got a web cam that i think suffers the same prob |
| 05:19.16 | Gnea | recall: only root can change the system timezone settings. |
| 05:19.54 | lnc | gtk/gtk.h not found |
| 05:19.59 | recall | Gnea, I know. When I log in to switch the timezone in the control panel, it switches for root. I log out, back to UTC. I log back to root, it's back to UTC. |
| 05:20.03 | Gnea | Johnny_5: you tried to paste something before... why haven't you pasted it elsewhere? |
| 05:20.03 | lnc | there seem to be many gtk packs in synaptic... i'm kinda at a loss as to what to install |
| 05:20.22 | deadcat | lnc: the one with -dev. what the f you trhing to do? |
| 05:20.22 | Gnea | recall: try using the tzconfig command |
| 05:20.45 | Johnny_5 | did it let you see what i pasted? |
| 05:20.52 | Gnea | lnc: if you're trying to compile something, you need the header files |
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| 05:21.12 | Gnea | Johnny_5: i haven't seen you paste a url. |
| 05:21.13 | stew | lnc: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 05:21.15 | recall | Gnea, tzconfig says the desired timezone |
| 05:21.20 | lnc | which is? |
| 05:21.30 | recall | apparently it's KDE's clock |
| 05:21.30 | deadcat | lnc: what the fuck you trying to do? |
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| 05:21.33 | Gnea | lnc: what deadcat said |
| 05:21.38 | stew | recall: try changing the utc setting in /etc/default/rcS |
| 05:21.57 | stew | lnc: apt-file would tell you what package to install |
| 05:21.58 | jnc | X11 is sooo working now. |
| 05:21.59 | Gnea | it'll be like the regular library file, but with a -dev at the end, denoting "development files" |
| 05:22.00 | jnc | w00t |
| 05:22.25 | deadcat | jnc: font ok? |
| 05:22.26 | Gnea | !beer jnc |
| 05:22.32 | recall | stew, it's set to no currently. switch it to yes? |
| 05:22.33 | deadcat | jnc: check slickdeals.net see if font are fuck |
| 05:22.56 | stew | recall: sure |
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| 05:23.24 | jnc | deadcat: i don't do pr0n |
| 05:23.35 | recall | hah |
| 05:23.38 | deadcat | jnc: what the fuck you talking about? |
| 05:23.46 | jnc | excuse me? |
| 05:23.51 | ootput | seems to have misread slickdeals |
| 05:23.57 | ootput | dicksleals |
| 05:23.58 | jnc | gah. |
| 05:24.03 | Gnea | slickdeals, not dickdeals |
| 05:24.07 | Gnea | lol |
| 05:24.10 | powder | hahaha |
| 05:24.17 | jnc | that's what he was going on about, oh |
| 05:24.25 | deadcat | seen the word "dick" too much lately i guesS? (= |
| 05:24.28 | jnc | i guess my FONT IS MESSED UP so i couldn't read it proper |
| 05:24.33 | ootput | ah |
| 05:24.43 | Gnea | :) |
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| 05:25.18 | stew | !tell iceman about root |
| 05:25.23 | stew | !tell iceman about based on debian |
| 05:25.24 | jnc | i saw it, and was thinking "what the hell, lickdeals.net !?" |
| 05:25.32 | ootput | this Xorg crisis got me to look into cli window-managers |
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| 05:26.06 | deadcat | ootput: just ditch X entirely |
| 05:26.18 | Gnea | ootput: sell your computer |
| 05:26.31 | ootput | no no, there's an alternative |
| 05:26.39 | Gnea | implants?! |
| 05:26.46 | ootput | I forget |
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| 05:27.01 | Gnea | too much crack |
| 05:27.04 | ootput | deadcat: the window-manager won't rely on X at all |
| 05:27.24 | deadcat | ootput: really? |
| 05:27.24 | ootput | 'p-' something |
| 05:27.31 | ootput | or freewin or something |
| 05:27.35 | deadcat | i think the problem with my font is reading this: font-family: Verdana, Lucida, Arial, serif; |
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| 05:28.05 | inetd___ | 1 |
| 05:28.22 | bucky | deadcat: do you have FontPath "unix/:7100" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 05:28.29 | deadcat | bucky: not anymore |
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| 05:28.47 | bucky | deadcat: i think you need that |
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| 05:28.51 | deadcat | bucky: sshonly.sytes.net/config/etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:28.55 | Johnny_5 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2367 |
| 05:29.00 | deadcat | bucky: i dont even have a font server running |
| 05:29.08 | stew | bucky: no, x11-common now conflicts with xfs |
| 05:29.17 | Gnea | Johnny_5: thank you |
| 05:29.20 | Johnny_5 | np |
| 05:29.25 | wookienz | anyone know any howtos of cross compiling to MIPS on debian? |
| 05:29.25 | deadcat | stew: check my xorg.conf ^^ |
| 05:29.33 | unstable | !tell wookienz about mips |
| 05:29.41 | Gnea | Johnny_5: can you paste output of lsusb there too? |
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| 05:29.55 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 05:29.57 | deadcat | wookienz: get a cross compiler |
| 05:30.03 | stew | Johnny_5: try switching for uhci to ohci or vice versa |
| 05:30.37 | wookienz | deadcat, where should i look and does it need to be a specific mips one or are they generic |
| 05:30.48 | deadcat | wookienz: no clue |
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| 05:31.27 | deadcat | seems like sites with font-family: Verdana, Lucida, Arial, serif; |
| 05:31.27 | Johnny_5 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2368 |
| 05:31.30 | deadcat | screw me up |
| 05:32.13 | Gnea | Johnny_5: okay, looks like it sees your webcam alright (the logitech) but the host driver could have issues - what kernel are you running? |
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| 05:32.49 | Johnny_5 | 2.4 |
| 05:32.54 | stew | Johnny_5: are you using uhci or ohci? |
| 05:33.00 | Johnny_5 | 2.4 something |
| 05:33.08 | Johnny_5 | how do i do that? |
| 05:33.10 | Gnea | Johnny_5: ok, i recommend upgrading to a 2.6 - are you on sarge, etch or sid? |
| 05:33.18 | Johnny_5 | sarge |
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| 05:33.33 | Gnea | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8 |
| 05:33.39 | Gnea | and reboot into that |
| 05:33.46 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 05:33.48 | stew | Johnny_5: lsmod | grep hcd |
| 05:33.53 | Gnea | see if it makes a difference right off the bat |
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| 05:34.01 | Gnea | stew: did 2.4 use hcd? |
| 05:34.02 | Johnny_5 | ahh...k |
| 05:34.26 | Gnea | i coulda sworn hcd was introduced with 2.5/2.6 |
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| 05:34.58 | ootput | deadcat: what has the fontpath been changed to in 7.0? |
| 05:35.16 | recall | switching to UTC made no difference, heh |
| 05:35.21 | deadcat | ootput: /usr/share/fonts/X11/ |
| 05:35.34 | ootput | k |
| 05:35.49 | recall | is there a user level timezone setting? |
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| 05:36.19 | stew | Gnea: oh could be, but i'll bet his problem is that he's using uhci with a devoce that only nows ohci |
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| 05:36.55 | Johnny_5 | lsmod | grep uhci? |
| 05:37.03 | Gnea | stew: could be |
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| 05:37.13 | deadcat | stew: i think its the Verdana OR Arial fonts that sucks on me. because debian-administration.org uses Lucida, serif and that site is fine for me |
| 05:37.16 | Gnea | Johnny_5: just paste all of lsmod to the site |
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| 05:37.29 | stew | deadcat: verdana is a ms font, did you install msttcorefonts? |
| 05:37.35 | deadcat | nop |
| 05:37.41 | stew | deadcat: arial is as well |
| 05:37.59 | deadcat | stew: i dont really want to install that. since i never had it before |
| 05:37.59 | Johnny_5 | k |
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| 05:38.08 | ootput | aaah, beautiful ion3 |
| 05:38.13 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:38.16 | acai | where can i find a list of apt servers? |
| 05:38.19 | deadcat | back in action? |
| 05:38.22 | ootput | yeah |
| 05:38.24 | deadcat | acai: apt-setup |
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| 05:38.48 | streuner | acai: are you using stable? |
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| 05:39.16 | acai | streuner: i'm actually using kubuntu |
| 05:39.27 | Johnny_5 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2369 |
| 05:39.33 | qalimas | I'm sorry to ask this here, but #knoppix isn't active right now, and maybe someone here will know: When remastering, what files need to be replaced into the cd to save all theme changes, settings, etc? |
| 05:40.02 | streuner | acai: did you know that there are other channels for kubuntu? #(k)ubuntu? |
| 05:40.11 | Gnea | qalimas: you'll have to wait for someone to answer there. |
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| 05:40.22 | HellDragon | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.27 | HellDragon | oops pasted the wrong thing.. |
| 05:40.42 | acai | streuner: ye,s but i'm not so much interested in kubuntu stuff as i am getting debian repositories on my sources list |
| 05:40.52 | Gnea | Johnny_5: and lspci? |
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| 05:40.59 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 05:41.03 | Gnea | HellDragon: goodbye. |
| 05:41.33 | acai | namely, i want to find some non-free repositorios |
| 05:41.34 | HellDragon | why ? |
| 05:41.38 | HellDragon | lol Gnea |
| 05:41.45 | deadcat | acai: just add non-free to the end |
| 05:41.54 | Gnea | !sunday |
| 05:41.55 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 05:42.00 | stew | acai: please go to #kubuntu for help with kubuntu. mixing debian and kubuntu is also not a good idea |
| 05:42.14 | Johnny_5 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2370 |
| 05:42.27 | Gnea | !ubuntu |
| 05:42.27 | acai | stew: kubuntu IS debian.. |
| 05:42.27 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 05:42.39 | Gnea | acai: no it is NOT. |
| 05:42.41 | stew | acai: no its not |
| 05:42.41 | streuner | acai: stew is right, at the end you running debian and think you running (k)ubuntu ;-) |
| 05:42.42 | Gnea | !based on debian |
| 05:42.42 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 05:42.48 | deadcat | acai: so why is it called kubuntu? not debian? |
| 05:43.12 | kepht | Any debarchiver users? How are packages removed? |
| 05:43.58 | deadcat | acai: answer me. or you stilling thinking |
| 05:44.06 | acai | deadcat: because it's KDE ubuntu (rather than gnome which is what Ubuntu uses). ubuntu is debian-base |
| 05:44.24 | deadcat | acai: there you have it. |
| 05:44.37 | Gnea | deadcat: i think he got the idea. |
| 05:44.42 | chron | !djb |
| 05:44.42 | dpkg | i heard djb is an arrogant jerk, or Daniel J. Bernstein, author of qmail, djbdns, etc., or at http://cr.yp.to/djb.html, or a UNIX coding and mathematics genius, or an ego-maniac. See "wanker". |
| 05:44.47 | chron | still can't stop laughing at that |
| 05:44.50 | deadcat | Gnea: no he doesnt. he think hes right |
| 05:45.03 | acai | ok, so... all i'm looking for are some good repositories |
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| 05:45.10 | stew | acai: wrong channel |
| 05:45.10 | acai | i can't seem to get an adequate list |
| 05:45.22 | stew | acai: please stop |
| 05:45.26 | streuner | acai: ok |
| 05:45.32 | powder | acai, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic go there and get the hell out of here |
| 05:45.35 | deadcat | acai: too late . we know you use kubuntu. and we dont help buntu users |
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| 05:45.43 | acai | stew: please stop. you don't need to answer me, i can get help from anyone willing to give it |
| 05:45.55 | deadcat | no one will |
| 05:45.58 | streuner | acai: ubuntu has the same package system, but that's all, they are different OS, different packages |
| 05:46.01 | acai | deadcat: oh, dbian elitists? |
| 05:46.01 | avonej | Does anyone have a A8N-E motherboard? |
| 05:46.02 | stew | acai: i will request you be reomoved from the channel if you don't stop |
| 05:46.15 | streuner | acai: if you download debian packages you running mostly debian |
| 05:46.16 | deadcat | acai: nope. we just dont help buntu people |
| 05:46.28 | avonej | I'm having issues getting the built-in Gigabit Ethernet controller working with sarge |
| 05:46.37 | Gnea | !tell acai about based on debian |
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| 05:46.45 | avonej | On an nForce 4 board made by Asus... the A8N-E |
| 05:46.47 | Gnea | acai: learn how to read. |
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| 05:47.21 | Iceman_ | where to get rpm sources for debian |
| 05:47.24 | Gnea | acai: it's not about elitism, it's about applied intelligence. |
| 05:47.31 | stew | Iceman_: your questions are still off-topic here |
| 05:47.38 | stew | Gnea: please just drop it |
| 05:47.39 | acai | look, i'm willing to fuck my own system, i just want a list of repositories |
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| 05:47.42 | Gnea | Iceman_: check your mom's buttcrack |
| 05:47.48 | stew | Gnea: stop |
| 05:47.58 | powder | lol |
| 05:48.10 | streuner | acai: well, and asking here then after you fucked your system? |
| 05:48.13 | deadcat | acai: you go ahead. we just prefer you ask in #*buntu instead of debian thats all |
| 05:48.15 | Iceman_ | boy this is support ? |
| 05:48.24 | Gnea | stew: well i' not going to help him fuck his own system. |
| 05:48.33 | streuner | acai: didn't we tell you, that could happen easily if you mix systems? |
| 05:48.36 | JochenA | Guys, I installed the xorg packages from backports.org. Runs almost all fine but X can't load the xkb maps (de nodeadkeys). Where are those supposed to be and in which package are they so I can investigate further (logs don't say much) |
| 05:48.40 | Johnny_5 | so should i do the upgrade to 2.6 afterall? what did you gather from the info i pasted? |
| 05:48.41 | deadcat | i will. if its debian related |
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| 05:48.57 | stew | Gnea: then just keep quiet |
| 05:48.59 | Gnea | Iceman_: debian is not based on RPMs |
| 05:49.32 | Iceman_ | the old distro i am forced to ues wants debian sources ... |
| 05:49.33 | stew | Iceman_: this is support, but for debian, since you aren't running debian, we can't offer you support |
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| 05:50.20 | Iceman_ | if debian native would install to my file system i would switch in a freaking heartbeat .. |
| 05:50.37 | avonej | Does anyone have any experience getting a SysKonnect/Marvel Gigabit NIC working with Debian? I have an ASUS A8N-E motherboard. |
| 05:50.38 | stew | Iceman_: again, sorry. |
| 05:50.42 | deadcat | Iceman_: sorry. |
| 05:50.46 | Gnea | stew: i'm not misleading, i should be quiet because...? |
| 05:50.46 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:51.14 | stew | Gnea: becuase telling people to look in their mom's buttcrack is in no way useful or needed |
| 05:51.22 | Iceman_ | ok, debian, once installed to a single partition, can you remaster a cd, with a custom installer ... |
| 05:51.38 | stew | Iceman_: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 05:51.38 | Gnea | Iceman_: sorry for the response above. what method are you using to install the system with? |
| 05:52.15 | Iceman_ | fat32 .. load from loadlin ... i need dos ... until i am comfortable with the linux commandline ... |
| 05:52.22 | Gnea | stew: hey, i see RPM and Debian in the same sentence and i think apples and oranges. if someone doesn't draw the distinction then people get confused and pissed off. |
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| 05:52.41 | deadcat | Gnea: hahaha.. funny shit (= |
| 05:52.51 | Gnea | :) |
| 05:52.53 | Iceman_ | but until i can master command line, i need fat32 ... to clone 2x installes and run from dos using loadlin .. |
| 05:53.04 | stew | Iceman_: you can't run debian on fat32 |
| 05:53.33 | Gnea | stew: i think he wants to install linux on another partition or hd, then boot to it using loadlin on his windows desktop |
| 05:53.35 | Iceman_ | linux will and can run from about any file system, just fat32 has been abandoned |
| 05:53.40 | Gnea | which, yes, can be done |
| 05:53.50 | stew | Gnea: ahh so you thought maybe telling him to look in his mom's buttcrack would keep people from getting either confused or pissed off? brilliant |
| 05:54.00 | Gnea | you can boot from fat32, you just can't boot ON fat32 |
| 05:54.19 | Iceman_ | Gnea not windows ... I want to toast windows .. but have dos there to "save" my poor butt ... |
| 05:54.22 | Gnea | stew: his mom's buttcrack is a clearly defined area. |
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| 05:54.39 | powder | Iceman_, why don't you dual boot? |
| 05:54.49 | Iceman_ | fat32 simply requires a swap file ... |
| 05:54.54 | stew | Gnea: no he wants to run from fat32 as he has said in the past more than once |
| 05:55.07 | deadcat | first thing first. lets settle his mom's buttcrack first |
| 05:55.19 | Gnea | his mom has a buttcrack. |
| 05:55.21 | Gnea | there, settled. |
| 05:55.22 | Gnea | next? |
| 05:55.27 | deadcat | k |
| 05:55.30 | Iceman_ | powder can clone in a duel boot ... "zipslack would work" but there outdated ... in librarys for zip .. |
| 05:55.31 | powder | it's not funny anymore |
| 05:55.49 | deadcat | powder: i have a sick sense of humor |
| 05:55.55 | powder | hahaha |
| 05:56.25 | Iceman_ | my other pc ... has "linux" running on fat 32 .. and can update debial sources ... but finding them |
| 05:56.42 | Gnea | Iceman_: so, ultimately, you don't want any windows os on your pc, just linux, right? |
| 05:56.43 | powder | Iceman_, I can't understand a word you're saying |
| 05:56.52 | Iceman_ | exactly ... |
| 05:56.53 | Gnea | Iceman_: is it connected to a lan? |
| 05:56.59 | Iceman_ | yes .. |
| 05:57.04 | Iceman_ | access |
| 05:57.21 | Gnea | Iceman_: please paste the contents of the 'df -th' command to the paste url |
| 05:57.24 | Gnea | !paster |
| 05:57.24 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 05:57.29 | avonej | Does anyone have any experience getting a SysKonnect/Marvel Gigabit NIC working with Debian? I have an ASUS A8N-E motherboard. |
| 05:57.35 | Gnea | without the quotes, of course |
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| 05:58.16 | Iceman_ | or a way to build a newer install from a running linux install |
| 05:58.26 | unstable_ | avonej: As root type "dhclient eth0" |
| 05:58.30 | avonej | I believe that 2.6.16 has support for thaqt NIC |
| 05:58.33 | stew | is there a filesystem type named 'h'? |
| 05:58.39 | Gnea | Iceman_: please do as requested. it will help us help you do what you want to do. |
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| 05:58.52 | Gnea | Iceman_: btw, i meant df -Th, not df -th |
| 05:59.35 | avonej | unstable_: I'm pretty sure I compiled support for it in the kernel. Will that enable it using DHCP? |
| 05:59.41 | iceman | this is a working linux system ... running on fat32 ... |
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| 05:59.54 | avonej | I kinda need to know because I have to disconnect this computer to connect the Debian box. |
| 06:00.16 | Gnea | iceman: then please, open a browser on that system, point it at http://channels.debian.net/paste, and paste the contents of df -Th to it |
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| 06:00.30 | deadcat | Gnea: my bet is that hes yanking you guys. |
| 06:00.38 | stew | deadcat: yanking how? |
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| 06:00.47 | deadcat | stew: making it up |
| 06:00.50 | Gnea | deadcat: see, i'll make you some $ |
| 06:00.56 | stew | deadcat: which part? |
| 06:00.57 | jnc | is that like lickdeals.net? |
| 06:01.02 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 06:01.16 | deadcat | jnc: i pretty sure i typed slickdeals.net |
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| 06:01.26 | jnc | MY FONT IS BROKEN |
| 06:01.30 | jnc | err |
| 06:01.32 | deadcat | damn |
| 06:01.33 | poe-t | someone made nvidia gls for xorg 7.0? |
| 06:01.48 | avonej | unstable_ I guess I'll diconnect here and try that command after pluggin in the Debian box. Anything else that might help before that happens? |
| 06:01.48 | iceman | df - Th ... no such file ot directory |
| 06:02.03 | Gnea | iceman: df -Th, not df - Th |
| 06:02.03 | deadcat | waht i say! |
| 06:02.27 | iceman | [iceman@localhost iceman]$ df-Th bash: df-Th: command not found [iceman@localhost iceman]$ |
| 06:02.31 | Gnea | ALL YOUR FILESYSTEM ARE BELONG TO US!!! |
| 06:02.51 | Gnea | iceman: df -Th |
| 06:02.55 | deadcat | iceman: you on a redhat system? |
| 06:03.04 | stew | deadcat: no he said already he is running winlinux |
| 06:03.07 | simonrvn | ffs, type properly |
| 06:03.15 | deadcat | stew: oh. i ignore half of his messages (= |
| 06:04.00 | iceman | how to find a "installer" that will update a distro ... using existing install as a base .. |
| 06:04.06 | Gnea | stew: he's an illiterate piece of shit. wanna bet i'm wrong or claim his mom doesn't have a buttcrack? :) |
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| 06:04.13 | stew | Gnea: stop |
| 06:04.24 | stew | Gnea: there is no reason to start name calling |
| 06:04.26 | simonrvn | Gnea: that's going overboard |
| 06:04.27 | deadcat | Gnea: no. hes messing with you.' |
| 06:04.36 | Gnea | simonrvn: you have no idea. |
| 06:04.39 | stew | iceman: /msg dpkg chroot install ; /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 06:04.43 | Gnea | but ok, i'll just /ignore |
| 06:04.44 | deadcat | Gnea: his buddies are laughing at the background.. i can sense it |
| 06:04.48 | simonrvn | i don't care. |
| 06:04.49 | iceman | just trying to do what has been abandonden ... used to be several distros that would install and run from fat32 ... |
| 06:04.57 | tedp | it seems I can't have gnome-panel and kdelibs4-dev installed at the same time because of conflicting dependencies over which implementation of libfam0 to use :( |
| 06:04.59 | streuner | !sunday |
| 06:04.59 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 06:05.00 | Gnea | simonrvn: you missed the rest of it, you should. |
| 06:05.06 | streuner | but is sunday not over? |
| 06:05.18 | simonrvn | iceman: why would you want to run a linux distro on fat32? it's a borked FS |
| 06:05.28 | streuner | sorry guys :-) |
| 06:05.37 | simonrvn | /exec -o date |
| 06:05.44 | Gnea | stew: i hope you're satisfied now |
| 06:05.45 | streuner | yeah |
| 06:05.50 | stew | Gnea: huh? why? |
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| 06:05.54 | iceman | "dos" until i get comfortable with command line in linux, i can use dos to clone the install ... |
| 06:05.59 | powder | simonrvn, because he needs DOS lol |
| 06:06.02 | streuner | simonrvn: anyway, its monday here :-) |
| 06:06.13 | simonrvn | iceman: you do not need dos. it's barely a real os |
| 06:06.26 | iceman | i have wasted to much time reinstalling rather than learning ... |
| 06:06.29 | tedp | eww, dos. :/ |
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| 06:06.39 | deadcat | ok. now i know for sure is those windows fonts Verdana, or Arial thats fucking up my fonts.. what can i do? |
| 06:06.46 | iceman | freedos ... open dos ... |
| 06:06.46 | simonrvn | iceman: exactly my point. with debian, say, you'd do it once |
| 06:06.49 | sdogi | could someone please tell me what do i need to install for development libraries |
| 06:06.51 | Gnea | deadcat: might as well turn on bassmasters :) |
| 06:06.52 | stew | iceman: if you aren't going to install debian then please move on, anything else is off-topic here |
| 06:06.59 | sdogi | it seems i have io.h missing, but i can't find out in what package it is |
| 06:07.03 | deadcat | Gnea: the f is bassmasters? |
| 06:07.09 | streuner | deadcat: *cough* mscorefonts *evil* *cough* :-) |
| 06:07.15 | iceman | and when i crash something in debian, then i am forced to reinstall .. |
| 06:07.16 | simonrvn | sdogi: whatever apt-cache search foo dev turns up you install. depends what you want |
| 06:07.22 | Gnea | deadcat: some fishing show |
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| 06:07.30 | simonrvn | iceman: um, only in windows, m'dear |
| 06:07.35 | tedp | sdogi: try linux-headers-2.6 (or -2.4) |
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| 06:07.36 | deadcat | streuner: damn. i really dont want to isntall that. i never had it and it used to work fine. some kind of alias to default serif maybe? |
| 06:07.45 | ootput | aha, missed some drama |
| 06:07.52 | sdogi | so i should install linux headers you say.. ah, ok |
| 06:07.57 | simonrvn | nothing like high drama |
| 06:07.59 | deadcat | ootput: ya.. lots of drama (= |
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| 06:08.04 | sdogi | i thought there is special package for that |
| 06:08.06 | iceman | until i learn command line and how thing work properly in linux, i'm forced to reinstall .. |
| 06:08.07 | sdogi | thanks |
| 06:08.08 | tedp | linux-headers-2.6.15-1: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-1/include/asm-i386/io.h |
| 06:08.12 | simonrvn | i mean, nothing special |
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| 06:08.45 | ootput | deadcat: scrolled back a bit, saw buttcrack mentioned several times, so scrolled back all the way :D |
| 06:09.15 | stew | sdogi: what are you compiling? |
| 06:09.19 | deadcat | ootput: oh ya. we were talking about some dude's mom's buttcrack... |
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| 06:09.39 | simonrvn | iceman: whatever. your machine. just my 0.02$ |
| 06:09.39 | deadcat | but thats all i remember |
| 06:09.45 | sdogi | stew: bin2iso converter |
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| 06:10.00 | powder | iceman, nobody here can cure you of your insecurities ;) |
| 06:10.01 | sdogi | stew: it is not in debian repository and their linux binary link is broken |
| 06:10.05 | stew | sdogi: you don't need linux-headers, install build-essential |
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| 06:10.14 | iceman | well if i could point this distro to a debian ftp... and get it f\to find old packages from 2003 then update and migrate to a full new install on fat 32 .. |
| 06:10.30 | stew | iceman: no, i've told you many times now, you can't |
| 06:10.42 | simonrvn | iceman: one thing i will say: *forget* about fat32. you're wasting your time. |
| 06:10.51 | sdogi | stew: funny thing is that i have it installed... hm |
| 06:10.58 | iceman | question then why ... it is a existing install |
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| 06:11.34 | stew | iceman: why what? why can't you run on fat32? becuase it doesn't have the concept of permissions |
| 06:11.52 | stew | sdogi: what is failing? ./configure ? make? |
| 06:11.54 | ootput | iceman: because it's shit, and you shouldn't |
| 06:12.01 | sdogi | stew: it can't find io.h |
| 06:12.05 | Gnea | simonrvn: i asked him to run df -Th and output to the paster url - he couldn't get past the fact that there's a space between 'df' and '-Th' |
| 06:12.10 | simonrvn | file size limitations, filesystem size limitations, no perm or ownership, i told you, borked. |
| 06:12.15 | sdogi | stew: i'm trying to reinstall build-essential |
| 06:12.21 | powder | Gnea, lol |
| 06:12.26 | stew | sdogi: what command are you running? |
| 06:12.43 | sdogi | stew: gcc bin2isocfile.c -o bin2iso |
| 06:12.47 | iceman | well trying to learn and migrate to learning ... instead i have wasted a lot of time just reinstalling broken installs |
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| 06:13.07 | stew | sdogi: what is the line that is failing? #include <sys/io.h>? |
| 06:13.07 | Iceman_ | http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-archive/dists/buzz/source/?fl=d |
| 06:13.14 | simonrvn | iceman: have you considered that maybe you're going about it the wrong way? |
| 06:13.18 | powder | iceman, maybe they are broken because you're trying to use fat32... |
| 06:13.24 | sdogi | stew: no it is #include <io.h> |
| 06:13.27 | Gnea | iceman: not only that, but you've wasted time talking about wasted time in here. |
| 06:13.31 | sdogi | stew: should it be sys/io.h ? |
| 06:13.37 | stew | sdogi: i believe so, yes |
| 06:13.56 | iceman | no these were full linux installs |
| 06:13.57 | simonrvn | sdogi: <> is system headers. and yeh, i think so too (sys/io.h) |
| 06:14.00 | sdogi | hm, strange, i swear i have compiled this program many times before.. but maybe stuff has changed |
| 06:14.06 | simonrvn | iceman: winlinux != linux |
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| 06:14.37 | simonrvn | yup, sys/io.h |
| 06:14.43 | syntrx | fat32? jesus. |
| 06:15.07 | deadcat | syntrx: what up? |
| 06:15.07 | sdogi | well now i don't get that error, but i get bunch of undefined references... almost like that io.h isn't the right one |
| 06:15.07 | Iceman_ | using winlinux for the fat32 support ... used to be linux4windows ... |
| 06:15.16 | sdogi | : undefined reference to `_chsize' |
| 06:15.22 | sdogi | i'll try google |
| 06:16.17 | powder | Jesus used fat32 on his computer |
| 06:16.26 | Iceman_ | a |
| 06:16.27 | pax | no fat 12 |
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| 06:17.38 | ootput | wow, snake coughs up a hippo |
| 06:17.41 | Johnny_5 | so maybe my issuses are because i need to update my kernel? |
| 06:17.57 | Gnea | i still have yet to see the output of df -Th, this thus leads me to believe that iceman is nothing more than a troll. |
| 06:18.05 | deadcat | ootput: you've seen my latest screenshots? |
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| 06:18.09 | Gnea | Johnny_5: did you boot into a 2.6 kernel yet? |
| 06:18.09 | ootput | http://www.dailysixer.com/media/snakehip.wmv |
| 06:18.13 | ootput | deadcat: nope |
| 06:18.14 | sdogi | gah |
| 06:18.24 | Iceman_ | i want fat32 for now to keep 2x installs, and run from loadlin ... |
| 06:18.24 | sdogi | anyone knows some other bin2iso converter? |
| 06:18.37 | streuner | bchunk? |
| 06:18.47 | pax | I gotta admit, to even think about FAT32 and linux in 'install' context is genious .. really! |
| 06:18.53 | deadcat | ootput: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/xwd_20060413_12247.jpg and next image... this is the latest themes i am using. |
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| 06:19.20 | deadcat | http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/thunar.png |
| 06:19.35 | sdogi | streuner: thanks you |
| 06:19.38 | simonrvn | "genius" |
| 06:19.39 | Iceman_ | winlinux is a 2.4 kernel ... but lacks gnome ... :( |
| 06:19.41 | ootput | thunar is sweet |
| 06:19.44 | Johnny_5 | not yet...i'm talkin' to someone improtant on gain at the moment...i guess i can tell her i'll be back and do the deed... |
| 06:19.46 | deadcat | (= |
| 06:19.50 | stew | Iceman_: we don't care, it's off-topic |
| 06:19.57 | pax | simonrvn, thanks for the correction. |
| 06:20.05 | simonrvn | ok |
| 06:20.09 | ootput | those are some nice shots, deadcat |
| 06:20.14 | ootput | :thumbsup: |
| 06:20.32 | Gnea | ootput: OMFG |
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| 06:20.34 | liable | hahaha, i just tried to scroll the sreen on that .png :) |
| 06:20.51 | Iceman_ | well a way to gt debian to run on a single partition ... heck i'll mount the linux drive zip the install and unzip to fat 32 ... go from a lilo boot to a loadlin ... |
| 06:20.54 | liable | i think i need a beer.. |
| 06:20.59 | ootput | Gnea: i'm flattered |
| 06:21.16 | simonrvn | iceman: thanks bye |
| 06:21.18 | Gnea | ootput: that's awesome |
| 06:21.28 | ootput | the snake? |
| 06:21.29 | stew | Iceman_: you can run debian off a single partition, as long as it isn't a fat32 partition, /msg dpkg d-i |
| 06:21.30 | deadcat | ootput: thanks.. was modifying that ob3 theme quite much lately.. the buttons move when mouse over (= |
| 06:21.33 | Gnea | yeah |
| 06:21.41 | ootput | heh |
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| 06:21.47 | simonrvn | let's cut out the noise some |
| 06:21.53 | Krassy1809 | How i can setup tv-out on my GF5500 Graphic adapter , i have installed NVIDIA driver for Linux ? |
| 06:22.07 | Gnea | !tell Krassy1809 about nvidia |
| 06:22.07 | Iceman_ | what is missing for umsdos support in debian ? |
| 06:22.12 | simonrvn | !tell Krassy1809 about nvidia one-liner |
| 06:22.21 | Gnea | uhm |
| 06:22.33 | Gnea | Krassy1809: sorry, that should also say "please see #nvidia" |
| 06:22.44 | powder | Iceman_, just forget it, man |
| 06:23.08 | Iceman_ | learned one thing ... with linux "anything' is possible .. |
| 06:23.30 | tedp | install on ext3 first then go messing with other filesystems |
| 06:23.52 | Iceman_ | guess i could use freedos.. it does support ext2 filesystem |
| 06:23.55 | tedp | and sometimes "anything" involves getting your hands dirty in some code, so although possible, some things are difficult or not worth doing at all |
| 06:24.11 | tedp | there's a sourceforge project to add ext3 read/write support to windows |
| 06:24.32 | ootput | deadcat: did you see that video too? |
| 06:24.54 | deadcat | ootput: no. what is it? |
| 06:25.00 | Iceman_ | tedp linux can and runs rom fat32 umsdos ... not getting a newer distro to run there ... ? |
| 06:25.12 | ootput | deadcat: snake coughs up a hippo |
| 06:25.19 | deadcat | damn. nasty |
| 06:25.31 | Iceman_ | may try klinux :( |
| 06:25.34 | tedp | Iceman_: it has been pointed out many times that that is NOT a supported way to install debian, so we can't help. |
| 06:26.29 | unstable | stew: You can't run debian on a fat32 partition? |
| 06:26.30 | deadcat | why cant he just isntall it the normal way? |
| 06:26.47 | SmeGGy | can someone please take a look at http://channels.debian.net/paste/2371 |
| 06:26.47 | simonrvn | unstable: duh |
| 06:26.57 | Iceman_ | i need a way to maintain a clone of the woking install at all times ... |
| 06:27.01 | unstable | simonrvn: Why not? |
| 06:27.10 | simonrvn | for reasons already stated |
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| 06:28.09 | stew | unstable: it doesn't allow for filesystem permissions or file ownership |
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| 06:28.28 | dj_ryan | is sarge -> sid a possible upgrade using apt-get ? |
| 06:28.29 | Iceman_ | yes it does ... |
| 06:28.38 | deadcat | dj_ryan: yes |
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| 06:28.51 | deadcat | dj_ryan: thats stable to unstable |
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| 06:28.58 | dj_ryan | it is realtively problem free? |
| 06:29.08 | bigua | Hello, I???cc???c??? |
| 06:29.08 | Iceman_ | once linux is running it locks and does premissions ... just dos deos not lock them |
| 06:29.08 | deadcat | dj_ryan: i never have problem with that |
| 06:29.10 | Johnny_5 | what was the command to get the kernel again?? i think i'll go ahead and do it now and just reboot it later after she gets offline...she distracted me and i forgot to go ahead and do it...heh |
| 06:29.16 | dj_ryan | i've done libc6 -> glibc with apt-get so im tolerant to problems. |
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| 06:29.30 | dj_ryan | ok i remember someone told me once that stable->unstable wasnt possible. |
| 06:29.34 | tedp | Iceman_: you're making it really hard for yourself and for everyone else |
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| 06:29.44 | deadcat | dj_ryan: where you get glibc? |
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| 06:29.50 | simonrvn | dj_ryan: yes. but that's for the time being |
| 06:29.56 | simonrvn | deadcat: glibc is libc6 |
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| 06:30.04 | dj_ryan | deadcat, this was like 8 years ago, in the big libc5/6 -> glibc upgrade. |
| 06:30.19 | deadcat | dj_ryan: shit. things change in 8 years. |
| 06:30.38 | Miesco | What is the mms:// thing that mplayer has, what protocol is that? |
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| 06:30.50 | dj_ryan | deadcat, sure, but i havent sysadmined my debian box for like 3 or 4. im pretty 'make it work' right now. |
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| 06:31.33 | Iceman_ | then debian is trying to say, that the "possible" linux is ... becomes impossible ... I do not believe that ? |
| 06:31.39 | bigua | hello, somebody know how I can do make my kde environment use Xorg kbd rules? |
| 06:31.50 | simonrvn | it does already |
| 06:31.56 | tuv | how can i disable the pcspkr kernel module from loading? i blacklisted it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/, and /etc/discover.d and it still loads! |
| 06:32.16 | simonrvn | tuv: checked /etc/modules? |
| 06:32.18 | streuner | tuv: /etc/modules? |
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| 06:32.42 | sorb | hey guys |
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| 06:32.56 | tuv | simonrvn, streuner: not there |
| 06:33.03 | dj_ryan | deadcat this box has been upgraded from hamm and possibly a bit older. |
| 06:33.09 | streuner | tuv: well, does it depend on another module? |
| 06:33.16 | sorb | I can't figure out what I am doing wronge |
| 06:33.21 | bigua | the generic keyboard 102 intl us variant is bugged :( |
| 06:33.42 | stew | dj_ryan: are you running sarge or woody or older? what version of libc6 do you have installed now? |
| 06:33.44 | tuv | streuner, the only presence in lsmod is: "pcspkr 1668 0" |
| 06:33.45 | deadcat | dj_ryan: you in trouble then. |
| 06:33.57 | sorb | I used pppconfig, then used pon, but I get no readings, and no connectivity after typing it |
| 06:34.11 | dj_ryan | deadcat, why? im running sarge now. |
| 06:34.11 | streuner | tuv: uh, that's very big module then, isn't it ;-) |
| 06:34.12 | Iceman_ | http://70.84.79.46/ar/announce-en.htm there inux on fat 32 |
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| 06:34.18 | deadcat | anyone familiar editing the fonts.conf file? i am having problem with Verdena font being aliased |
| 06:34.23 | gpm | hey, anyone know what package/version is needed to have animated gtk2 themes (animation = TRUE in gtkrc)? |
| 06:34.38 | stew | Iceman_: stop, you remain off-topic, please go away |
| 06:34.39 | deadcat | gpm: clearlooks? |
| 06:34.55 | dj_ryan | stew: im running sarge right now. aka stable, right? |
| 06:34.56 | sorb | anyone know how I can get connectivity? should I use a different program? |
| 06:35.10 | Iceman_ | http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ also will run on fat32 |
| 06:35.12 | tuv | streuner, very big?? why? |
| 06:35.13 | simonrvn | i put him on ignore 15 minutes ago |
| 06:35.23 | stew | !ops Iceman_ off-topic for a long time now |
| 06:35.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Iceman_ off-topic for a long time now |
| 06:35.25 | sugoruyo | hi all |
| 06:35.25 | simonrvn | tuv: it isn't. he's pulling your chain |
| 06:35.25 | streuner | tuv: very small rather... |
| 06:35.32 | deadcat | can someone just kick him instead? |
| 06:35.42 | Iceman_ | why is installing debian offtopic ... |
| 06:35.45 | sugoruyo | i need some help getting set up |
| 06:35.51 | gpm | deadcat: yes. there's a clearlooks-quicksilver on art.gnome.org that has the line animation = TRUE in it, and if i comment the line, the theme works (without animation), but if i leave it uncommented and select the theme, it just goes to the default theme (again, no animation) |
| 06:36.05 | deadcat | gpm: you in luck: deb http://debian.sshonly.sytes.net unstable/ |
| 06:36.11 | stew | Iceman_: the last two url's of your are off-topic. if you are looking for help installing debian, we are glad to help |
| 06:36.14 | deadcat | gpm: thats what i am using right now |
| 06:36.16 | tuv | streuner, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist says that it disables modules loaded by hotplug only, those autoloaded by the kernel aren't disabled here. how can they be disabled then? |
| 06:36.28 | Johnny_5 | seriously, what was it? |
| 06:36.31 | gpm | deadcat: what's the name of th epackage? or do i just add that source and dist-upgrade? |
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| 06:36.41 | sorb | can somebody at leaste tell me what documents I could read, the one on debian.org will no help me |
| 06:36.41 | Iceman_ | http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Loadlin_Install also linux on fat32 with loaline .. so linux can run on fat32 ... |
| 06:36.45 | Gnea | Iceman_: because it doesn't run ON fat32. you are spreading lies and you simply do not know what you are talking about and you refuse to work with us to provide you with the correct answer. |
| 06:36.46 | deadcat | gpm: which part is the animation anyway? i only built that because of split gradient |
| 06:36.51 | blahdeblah | Hi folks. What's the current preferred method for adding TrueType fonts to a sarge system? The user manual suggests xfstt, but it's not even installed or configured by the default sarge install. I found ~/.gnome2/share/fonts in my font path, but as soon as i ran mkfontdir in there and ran xset fp rehash, it disappeared. Defoma seems to have something to do with font management - what gives? |
| 06:36.58 | Gnea | !troll Iceman_ |
| 06:36.59 | Iceman_ | now gettign debian to fat32 |
| 06:37.16 | pbryan | beahdeblah: Are you using GNOME? |
| 06:37.24 | Iceman_ | that will settle the point that linux will and can run from fat32 |
| 06:37.25 | streuner | tuv: we told you, if you don't believe us just /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 06:37.26 | blahdeblah | pbryan: Yep |
| 06:37.33 | gpm | deadcat: with clearlooks-quicksilver (http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1213), the progress bars are animated. |
| 06:37.44 | blahdeblah | pbryan: P.S. Nice nickname completion. ;-) |
| 06:37.49 | deadcat | gpm: ohhh. you mean the candy thing... ya very nice here (= |
| 06:37.54 | Gnea | Iceman_: you are clearly in the wrong. i have run DSL before and it does NOT run on fat32. |
| 06:37.55 | pbryan | blahdeblah: Go to Nautilus and type ^L (brings up location) and type fonts:/// |
| 06:38.05 | gpm | deadcat: exactly. |
| 06:38.08 | deadcat | gpm: http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/thunar.png |
| 06:38.12 | deadcat | check the scroll bar (= |
| 06:38.17 | pbryan | blahdeblah: then it's drag and drop. |
| 06:38.17 | Iceman_ | read the howto on the las url i posted ... http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Loadlin_Install |
| 06:38.17 | Gnea | Iceman_: you are illiterate and you are interpretting what that website says incorrectly. |
| 06:38.24 | blahdeblah | pbryan: I've never touched Nautilus - will that matter. |
| 06:38.31 | pbryan | Nope. |
| 06:38.37 | tuv | streuner, you mean /etc/modules? |
| 06:38.41 | blahdeblah | pbryan: Thanks - will check it out |
| 06:38.45 | pbryan | blahdeblah: It puts the font files in ~/.fonts |
| 06:38.46 | Iceman_ | i'll com in here on fat 32 dsl .. to prove the point |
| 06:38.50 | Gnea | !ops Iceman_ won't stop spamming the channel with his trolling antics |
| 06:38.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Iceman_ won't stop spamming the channel with his trolling antics |
| 06:38.56 | gpm | deadcat: oh wow. very pretty. what are the themes you're using, if you don't mind my asking? |
| 06:39.02 | sugoruyo | can someone help me set up my system? |
| 06:39.13 | tuv | streuner, but it's not there, and it is in all the blacklists dpkg mentioned.. where else do i need to look? |
| 06:39.16 | simonrvn | illiteracy isn't the same thing as poor reading comprehension |
| 06:39.18 | deadcat | gpm: thats the one they come with. the one i use is just slightly modified. |
| 06:39.29 | Gnea | simonrvn: true - they go hand in hand |
| 06:39.32 | deadcat | gpm: default is blue.. |
| 06:39.46 | blahdeblah | pbryan: Do i have to handle adding ~/.fonts to the font path? |
| 06:39.47 | Iceman_ | simple question, how to put debian to run from fat32 ... DSL ... Klinux ... Winlinux 2003 all will ... so it can be done ... |
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| 06:40.01 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: You need to ask more specific questions than that. |
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| 06:40.07 | gpm | deadcat: cool. thanks! |
| 06:40.10 | sugoruyo | ok |
| 06:40.13 | Gnea | Iceman_: simple answer: you can't, and they don't. |
| 06:40.14 | pbryan | blahdeblah: Nope, GNOME takes care of it. |
| 06:40.16 | tedp | Iceman_: no-one here knows. search the web. |
| 06:40.20 | sugoruyo | i need to set up graphical interface and all |
| 06:40.23 | blahdeblah | pbryan: Bewdy - thanks |
| 06:40.25 | sugoruyo | i did an install of sarge |
| 06:40.27 | deadcat | gpm: http://sshonly.sytes.net/config/home/deadcat/.themes/Clearlooks_deadcat_blue/gtk-2.0/gtkrc this is what i am using right now |
| 06:40.28 | pbryan | blahdeblah: :) |
| 06:40.30 | sugoruyo | but forgot to select |
| 06:40.33 | sugoruyo | GUI |
| 06:40.33 | Iceman_ | the explaint there calim to do so ... |
| 06:40.36 | dondelelcaro | Iceman_: running directly from a FAT32 partition is not supported. |
| 06:40.39 | sugoruyo | so now i only got console |
| 06:40.40 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: Do you want GNOME or KDE? |
| 06:40.45 | sugoruyo | both |
| 06:40.47 | Gnea | Iceman_: again, YOU READ IT WRONG. |
| 06:40.47 | sugoruyo | :P |
| 06:40.50 | Iceman_ | will dsl run in ntfs file system |
| 06:40.53 | dondelelcaro | Iceman_: if you want to do it, you have to use a loopback on a fat32 of a POSIX compliant partition. |
| 06:40.58 | tedp | Iceman_: no! |
| 06:40.59 | dondelelcaro | Iceman_: ask #dsl; you're OT here. |
| 06:41.01 | sugoruyo | but i'll settle for gnome |
| 06:41.09 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: Start with apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 06:41.20 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: Then you'll want apt-get install gdm as well. |
| 06:41.27 | sugoruyo | will i get xorg or xfree? |
| 06:41.31 | simonrvn | illiteracy means you can't read at all. i.e., you just see squiggles where the characters are, and they don't process as meaningful. literacy means you process them as carrying meaning. what you see a lot nowadays is poor reading skills, and poor comprehension, that make it seem like they're illiterate. this of course doesn't take into account difference in language, dialect, and other factors |
| 06:41.32 | tuv | i found this line: /etc/modprobe.d/pnp-hotplug:alias pnp:dPNP0800 pcspkr, does it have anything to do with loading pcspkr although it's blacklisted |
| 06:41.34 | tuv | ? |
| 06:41.34 | Gnea | Iceman_: it can boot *OFF* of fat32, it can even mount a fat32 partition, but LINUX WILL NOT RUN IT'S ROOT PARTITION ON A FAT32 SYSTEM. PERIOD. |
| 06:41.39 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: On sarge, XFree86 |
| 06:41.44 | sugoruyo | i dont want xfree as i kept having problems |
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| 06:41.54 | sugoruyo | with the non standard res |
| 06:42.00 | sugoruyo | on the vaio screen |
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| 06:42.10 | simonrvn | tuv: it might. seems so |
| 06:42.13 | sugoruyo | can't i get xorg 6 or somethin? |
| 06:42.15 | toogreen | anyone can help me with some simple scripting? I just want to make a script that sends an e-mail with a preset message using the "mail" program |
| 06:42.15 | burepe | I lost my tvtuner video signal, the sound is fine. Is this a driver problem? The video just disappeared |
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| 06:42.28 | simonrvn | sugoruyo: not with sarge, no. only backports |
| 06:42.31 | unix_infidel | burepe: what device? |
| 06:42.37 | dsl503 | ok, heres dsl on ntfs sharing windows |
| 06:42.39 | tuv | simonrvn, so do i blacklist the other name: dPNP...? |
| 06:42.40 | sugoruyo | are backports safe? |
| 06:42.47 | burepe | a kworld 7130 video card unix_infidel |
| 06:42.48 | Gnea | simonrvn: if you can't comprehend something, you are illiterate. anyone can see a mcdonalds sign and as long as they know how to hand a few bucks over the counter, then they'll know it's mcdonalds. |
| 06:42.49 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: You could try getting xserver-xorg from testing |
| 06:42.49 | simonrvn | tuv: no, you comment that out |
| 06:42.56 | dondelelcaro | dsl503: DSL is OT here. |
| 06:42.57 | sugoruyo | i'm totally n00b on debian and relatively new on linux |
| 06:43.05 | dsl503 | how to take a windows screenshot ... |
| 06:43.08 | tedp | toogreen: the mail manpage should have all you need |
| 06:43.09 | burepe | I was using xawtv and then it just disappeared unix_infidel |
| 06:43.11 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 06:43.12 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@204.96.149.116] by dondelelcaro |
| 06:43.12 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 06:43.12 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: Then use Ubuntu or SUSE instead. :-) |
| 06:43.20 | simonrvn | Gnea: it's not cut and dry like that. do you mind if i ask you how old you are? |
| 06:43.30 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: thank you |
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| 06:43.47 | sugoruyo | tried |
| 06:43.49 | tedp | thank you. |
| 06:43.51 | sugoruyo | didn't like em |
| 06:43.52 | toogreen | tedp, i'll have a look, thanks.. its more script related tho i guess.. |
| 06:44.02 | gpm | deadcat: what was the sources.list line again (sorry)? |
| 06:44.03 | tedp | first line: #! /bin/sh |
| 06:44.07 | sugoruyo | and they don't like my machine either |
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| 06:44.09 | burepe | unix_infidel, I had it loaded fine and I was trying to change xawtvs settings and it went black. I have reloaded the driver, restarted, on and no |
| 06:44.11 | tedp | second line: the mail command you'd type at a prompt |
| 06:44.11 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:44.15 | deadcat | deb http://debian.sshonly.sytes.net unstable/ |
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| 06:44.29 | gpm | deadcat: thanks. |
| 06:44.29 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: Due to laptop hardware support? |
| 06:44.33 | sugoruyo | yeah |
| 06:44.37 | streuner | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 06:44.43 | sugoruyo | i have a vaio vgn-fs215s |
| 06:44.47 | streuner | for his hard work :-) |
| 06:45.01 | sugoruyo | and lots of things don't work on suse |
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| 06:45.07 | sugoruyo | less problems on ubuntu |
| 06:45.11 | sugoruyo | but still... |
| 06:45.16 | tedp | cursed leaking capacitors! |
| 06:45.19 | deadcat | gpm: the clearlooks package is patched, so instead of round corner. its sharp. i dont like the round corner (= |
| 06:45.24 | streuner | sugoruyo: so use it, idiot |
| 06:45.25 | j4v4m4n | hi my openoffice crashes with this message http://debian.pastebin.com/664481 after I upgraded to 2.0.2-1 |
| 06:45.33 | blahdeblah | tedp: ;-( |
| 06:45.37 | Gnea | simonrvn: it's irrelevent. if you have no comprehension of the words then you are illiterate, end of discussion. if a mexican walks into a restaurant and hears the words "do you want fries with that?" and they reply "yes.", and then if, when handed the fries, they hand them back saying they don't want them, then they are clearly illiterate. |
| 06:45.43 | sugoruyo | streuner, what's your problem? |
| 06:45.44 | gpm | deadcat: i'm sorta apathetic. i think i like sharp better too if i think about it long enough. |
| 06:45.51 | sugoruyo | i wanna use debian not ubuntu |
| 06:45.51 | Noboru | what is the release after sarge ? |
| 06:45.52 | stew | Gnea: simonrvn please take it elsewhere |
| 06:45.52 | j4v4m4n | it was working properly before |
| 06:45.54 | deadcat | gpm: ya |
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| 06:46.00 | sugoruyo | i wanna learn it |
| 06:46.06 | Gnea | stew: as i said, end of discussion. |
| 06:46.10 | simonrvn | Gnea: that's not illiterate. use a dictionary ;) |
| 06:46.14 | deadcat | gpm: since most stuff on my machine is sharp. like the openbox borders |
| 06:46.14 | gpm | deadcat: i definitely like your screenshot :) |
| 06:46.17 | streuner | sugoruyo: so what do you wanna learn, ubuntu? |
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| 06:46.20 | simonrvn | </ot> |
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| 06:46.24 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: I don't know how you expect it to be much better on Sarge. Is your laptop fairly new? If so, SUSE 10.1 or Ubuntu will likely have much better hardware support. |
| 06:46.32 | deadcat | gpm: thanks. |
| 06:46.41 | sugoruyo | well they don't |
| 06:46.42 | blahdeblah | streuner: No, sugoruyo said Debian |
| 06:46.48 | sugoruyo | however |
| 06:46.54 | sugoruyo | i ran into some guys site |
| 06:47.04 | sugoruyo | who installed debian and got everything working |
| 06:47.06 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: If you want xorg, i think you probably want to try xserver-xorg from testing. |
| 06:47.12 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: Then email him. :-) |
| 06:47.18 | sugoruyo | after a lot of compiles |
| 06:47.21 | sugoruyo | and stuff |
| 06:47.39 | sugoruyo | so i wanna get started learning debian so i can use the guide on his site |
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| 06:47.46 | sugoruyo | biggest problem |
| 06:47.50 | sugoruyo | is the brigthness |
| 06:47.58 | sugoruyo | BIOS sets it to max on boot |
| 06:48.01 | blahdeblah | sugoruyo: I use Debian so i don't *have* to compile! ;-) |
| 06:48.05 | co_co_co | alow |
| 06:48.07 | sugoruyo | and the Fn keys |
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| 06:48.10 | sugoruyo | dont work |
| 06:48.14 | sugoruyo | to lower it |
| 06:48.18 | Gnea | !tell sugoruyo about enter |
| 06:48.19 | liable | sugoruyo: dont use the enter key so much. |
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| 06:48.31 | sugoruyo | :p sorry |
| 06:48.37 | tedp | !tell liable about use of apostrophes |
| 06:48.56 | sugoruyo | i dont mind compiling as long as i know what i'm doing |
| 06:48.59 | liable | tedp: no point. I am illiterate. |
| 06:49.12 | deadcat | gpm: show us a screenshot when you get it working |
| 06:49.33 | tedp | heh, sorry. i had the feeling you were dpkg under another name |
| 06:49.35 | gpm | deadcat: huh, panel is still going to default theme when i select clearlooks after upgrade... |
| 06:49.47 | deadcat | gpm: kill it and restart |
| 06:49.52 | deadcat | the panel that is |
| 06:50.29 | unstable | What is better for "moodle" mysql or postgesql? |
| 06:50.34 | sugoruyo | so lets say i want xorg from testing (that would be etch?) and GNOME, what sources do i need in my sources.list? |
| 06:50.44 | SmeGGy | can someone please help me with the following problem : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2371 |
| 06:51.00 | streuner | sugoruyo: none, etch has x.org |
| 06:51.21 | streuner | sugoruyo: but you want xfree... |
| 06:51.25 | liable | sugoruyo: there are xorg packages for sarge on backports.org |
| 06:51.27 | stew | sugoruyo: if you are running sarge, you don't want to install xorg from etch, you want a backport /msg dpkg backports |
| 06:51.30 | streuner | x.org in etch is broken atm |
| 06:51.44 | deadcat | gpm: funny thing is that only few of us in this channel think the split gradient stuff is cool. |
| 06:51.50 | liable | streuner: in etch too? |
| 06:51.58 | bigua | im using xorg of etch |
| 06:52.04 | gpm | deadcat: oh sweet. the animation's going now! |
| 06:52.05 | bigua | i got problem only in keyboard |
| 06:52.11 | deadcat | nice |
| 06:52.16 | bigua | and has need make a link to /usr/X11R6/bin/X |
| 06:52.16 | streuner | liable: well, after the crash, i tried to install xorg via testing... |
| 06:52.21 | gpm | deadcat: oh yeah, i wasn't exepcting an answer in this channel |
| 06:52.33 | Miesco | Can someone help me |
| 06:52.35 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:52.35 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 06:52.36 | tarzeau | !ask |
| 06:52.37 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 06:52.44 | gpm | deadcat: did you say the theme was patched for sharp borders? mine is showing up rounded....restarted metacity and everything. |
| 06:52.55 | streuner | liable: some people said, if you have it installed - no problem, but if you try to install it... |
| 06:53.18 | Miesco | Im trying to view a wmv file through mms:// protocol and kaffeine says: No plugin found to handle this resource (mms://blah.wmv) |
| 06:53.19 | deadcat | gpm: it should be.. because all mines are sharp corner |
| 06:53.24 | deadcat | gpm: screenshot |
| 06:53.25 | sugoruyo | how do i know if i'm running sarge? cause i think some guy instructed to a dist-upgrade from the etch sources |
| 06:53.38 | streuner | liable: Does you unstable-system work now? |
| 06:53.39 | tarzeau | sugoruyo: check your sources.list |
| 06:53.44 | unstable | !tell sugoruyo about version |
| 06:53.47 | gpm | deadcat: screenshot soon. |
| 06:53.50 | streuner | liable: s/you/your/ |
| 06:53.51 | unix_infidel | is there a listing for the projected amount of server's in the US running debian? |
| 06:53.56 | unix_infidel | servers* |
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| 06:54.03 | unstable | !tell unix_infidel about netcraft |
| 06:54.13 | streuner | sugoruyo: check out dpkg -l libc6 |
| 06:54.17 | liable | streuner: oh, i did it twice the other day. it worked but was sucking up all the cpu. :) yeah fixed it in the end. then it broke again, for now its working :) |
| 06:54.31 | unix_infidel | !tell unix_infidel about netcraft |
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| 06:54.34 | streuner | liable: fine |
| 06:54.42 | unstable | !netcraft |
| 06:54.43 | dpkg | netcraft is, like, an Internet monitoring company based in Bath, England (recently having relocated from Bradford on Avon). They monitor uptimes and provide server operating system detection as their most notable services. They also provide security testing and publish news about the state of various networks that make up the Internet. |
| 06:55.05 | sugoruyo | libc6 is version 2.3.6-3 |
| 06:55.06 | liable | streuner: yours broke? |
| 06:55.14 | streuner | !info libc6 |
| 06:55.19 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-7 (sid), Packaged size: 4613 kB, Installed size: 10920 kB |
| 06:55.20 | streuner | !info libc6 testing |
| 06:55.25 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-3 (etch), Packaged size: 5037 kB, Installed size: 16932 kB |
| 06:55.26 | unix_infidel | unstable: that's odd it'd tell me if i msged it, but not if i made it tell me. |
| 06:55.29 | gpm | deadcat: http://carrett.mine.nu/shot.png |
| 06:55.35 | streuner | sugoruyo: testing then |
| 06:55.39 | sugoruyo | file /etc/debian_version says testing/unstable |
| 06:55.40 | Miesco | Cant anyone answer my question? |
| 06:55.41 | bigua | !info xkb |
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| 06:55.52 | unstable | unix_infidel: I just added the factoid 2 seconds ago |
| 06:56.04 | deadcat | gpm: oh shit. the xchat IS round. hmm |
| 06:56.13 | unix_infidel | unstable: gracias. |
| 06:56.25 | streuner | liable: yes, but gravity uploaded some packages, so it works now. |
| 06:56.30 | deadcat | gpm: but the file manager is sharp though. |
| 06:56.47 | gpm | deadcat: yeah, i will deal with it in the morning though. gotta get some Zs. this was my end of day project. and i did get the animation working....good enough for me. probably an X restart will kill the necessary processes. |
| 06:56.55 | sugoruyo | so where do i go from here? |
| 06:56.57 | liable | streuner: poor bugger deserves a raise :) (gravity) |
| 06:56.58 | gpm | deadcat: thanks for all your help and your nifty repo! |
| 06:56.59 | bigua | xkbmap model pc102 layout us variant intl is bugged |
| 06:57.00 | bigua | :| |
| 06:57.05 | deadcat | (= |
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| 06:57.08 | unstable | !netcraft |
| 06:57.08 | dpkg | somebody said netcraft was an Internet monitoring company based in Bath, England (recently having relocated from Bradford on Avon). They monitor uptimes and provide server operating system detection as their most notable services. They also provide security testing and publish news about the state of various networks that make up the Internet. http://www.netcraft.com/ or BSD is dying ... |
| 06:57.17 | unstable | er, woops |
| 06:57.19 | blahdeblah | pbryan: fonts:/// in Nautilus gives me a window that i can't drag anything into - any ideas? |
| 06:57.45 | blahdeblah | Or anyone, for that matter... :-) |
| 06:57.54 | pbryan | blahdeblah: Try mkdir ~/.fonts first? |
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| 06:58.23 | pbryan | blahdeblah: Did that work? |
| 06:58.30 | subrandom | What do people around these parts use to decompress/extract from rar archives. unrar-2.71 doesn't like compiling... |
| 06:58.47 | blahdeblah | subrandom: apt-get install unrar (from non-free) |
| 06:59.25 | unix_infidel | subrandom: 7zip :P |
| 06:59.32 | romulo | hi, how i can configure some personal key combinations? like ' and c gives me ? and i want ? |
| 06:59.48 | blahdeblah | pbryan: Looks like it's already there, and it already has the files i dropped in - i just can't see them in the fonts window in Nautilus, even after a refresh |
| 06:59.53 | signature16 | waht exactly is the difference between Courier Mail server and Postfix? do i need both? |
| 06:59.58 | pbryan | blahdeblah: Strange. |
| 07:00.08 | pbryan | Can you see them in newly started apps? |
| 07:00.27 | subrandom | thank you |
| 07:00.35 | pbryan | blahdeblah: What's your perms on ~/.fonts? |
| 07:00.39 | blahdeblah | signature16: Courier is your IMAP or POP or webmail server, for reading mail, and Postfix is your SMTP server, for sending mail. |
| 07:01.00 | blahdeblah | pbryan: 750 |
| 07:01.16 | pbryan | blahdeblah: That should be okay... |
| 07:02.22 | blahdeblah | Yee har! Fonts show up in OOo even though they're not in fonts:///. Thanks for the help, pbryan! |
| 07:02.31 | pbryan | blahdeblah: NP. |
| 07:02.36 | sugoruyo | what sources do i need and what do i have to install on testing to get a working xorg and GNOME? |
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| 07:03.27 | streuner | sugoruyo: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 07:03.35 | streuner | sugoruyo: sorry |
| 07:03.44 | streuner | sugoruyo: you already running testing... |
| 07:03.51 | sugoruyo | yeah |
| 07:03.52 | streuner | sugoruyo: show us your sources.list |
| 07:03.57 | streuner | in paster bot |
| 07:03.59 | streuner | !paste |
| 07:03.59 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 07:04.19 | sugoruyo | i'm not chatting from that machine |
| 07:04.26 | sugoruyo | it only has the cdrom line |
| 07:04.30 | sugoruyo | and one more |
| 07:04.34 | sugoruyo | should i post it here? |
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| 07:04.43 | streuner | the 1 line? of course |
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| 07:05.22 | sugoruyo | deb ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/debian etch main contrib non-free |
| 07:05.34 | spikeb | woops |
| 07:05.48 | streuner | look fine to me |
| 07:06.18 | sugoruyo | so if its ok what packages do i need to apt-get? |
| 07:06.44 | streuner | sugoruyo: x-window-system gnome |
| 07:07.13 | sugoruyo | x-window-system will hopefully get me set up with xorg? |
| 07:07.18 | sugoruyo | cause like i said |
| 07:07.24 | streuner | sure |
| 07:07.34 | sugoruyo | xfree has always refused to set the non-standard res |
| 07:07.37 | sugoruyo | ok thx |
| 07:08.02 | sugoruyo | i get some error |
| 07:08.11 | unstable | lol |
| 07:08.19 | sugoruyo | saying i have unmet dependencies |
| 07:08.27 | unstable | o jeez |
| 07:09.16 | sugoruyo | then a list like Depends: .... is not going to be installed and some stuff about xfree86-common and x11-common |
| 07:09.29 | sugoruyo | not being there and not going to be installed... |
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| 07:12.13 | streuner | sugoruyo: so use xfree86 till xorg is fixed in testing |
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| 07:12.52 | webwolf_27 | hey everytime I try to open ebay, or other sites that make use of javascript the browser freezes, no matter what browser anybody have a clue? |
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| 07:13.13 | simonrvn | crappy web pages |
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| 07:13.21 | sugoruyo | grrrmf ok how do i do that? |
| 07:13.31 | brammator | i want to install .deb from intel.com that converted by alien, and it says "unable to execute post-installation script: Exec format error". postinst from package contains only one "echo" string. how to correct that? |
| 07:13.44 | webwolf_27 | simonrvn, Ebay and so on has always worked before |
| 07:13.56 | streuner | sugoruyo: you didn't have X installed before? |
| 07:14.09 | sugoruyo | no |
| 07:14.13 | simonrvn | they still suck. they run on windoze |
| 07:14.22 | sugoruyo | i tried installing with GUI |
| 07:14.25 | sugoruyo | i got xfree |
| 07:14.27 | sugoruyo | and all |
| 07:14.34 | sugoruyo | and then i had to reinstall |
| 07:14.45 | sugoruyo | when i forgot to select GUI |
| 07:14.49 | sugoruyo | in my hurry |
| 07:14.52 | simonrvn | and all i got was this lousy xfree86 4.4 t-shirt |
| 07:15.03 | streuner | sugoruyo: re-install, but install sarge with X first |
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| 07:15.23 | streuner | sugoruyo: sarge/stable |
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| 07:15.58 | webwolf_27 | I'm aware of that, but it doesn't solve my problem |
| 07:16.05 | streuner | sugoruyo: don't upgrade X after you edit sources.list (sarge->etch) |
| 07:16.44 | sugoruyo | hmm ok i'll try that |
| 07:16.47 | webwolf_27 | and the browser freezes when I try to download the java-plugin from sun |
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| 07:17.01 | streuner | sugoruyo: another possiblity is, use sarge and use backports of X (xorg) |
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| 07:17.24 | streuner | !tell sugoruyo about backports |
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| 07:18.05 | stew | i'm suprised we haven't yet been hit by swarms of people asking for xorg7 on sarge |
| 07:18.16 | nanotube | hello , does anyone know what is LINUX OX? |
| 07:18.34 | simonrvn | stew: maybe it was kept quiet =) |
| 07:18.41 | streuner | stew: could be that backports has 7? |
| 07:18.50 | simonrvn | stew: it probably won't last, however |
| 07:19.01 | liable | stew: wait till theres an artical on digg! |
| 07:19.05 | liable | :) |
| 07:19.08 | simonrvn | streuner: good point |
| 07:19.26 | stew | it doens't |
| 07:19.29 | stew | oh |
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| 07:19.39 | stew | liable: right |
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| 07:20.43 | bliss1_ | hi |
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| 07:21.13 | ajdlinux | bliss1_: hi |
| 07:21.29 | sugoruyo | streuner, that's a preferrable option but i've already gone dist-upgrade with etch repos so i guess i need |
| 07:21.30 | streuner | stew: http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/x/xorg-x11/ |
| 07:21.32 | sugoruyo | to reinstall |
| 07:21.35 | bliss1_ | liable: get your problem with X.Org sorted |
| 07:21.48 | sugoruyo | and then use backports on sources.list to install xorg |
| 07:21.52 | bliss1_ | ajdlinux: hi |
| 07:22.02 | liable | bliss1_: for the time being, yes. |
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| 07:22.31 | bliss1_ | liable: ye you never know what might happen next |
| 07:24.08 | liable | bliss1_: indeed. i live my life from one beer to the next :) |
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| 07:25.14 | bliss1_ | liable;liable: well you have the beer I close my eyes everytime I put my card in the ATM machine |
| 07:26.47 | bliss1_ | liable: I have kernel Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8-2-386 on sarge what would be the command line for the latest kernel |
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| 07:28.30 | liable | bliss1_: what kind of cpu do you have? |
| 07:29.48 | bliss1_ | liable: INTEL Celeron D330 2.66Hzm |
| 07:30.16 | streuner_ | oh, an ACPI problem? :-) |
| 07:30.54 | bliss1_ | streuner: yes but I hpoe a ungrade on the kernel might help |
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| 07:31.22 | liable | bliss1_: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 07:31.33 | bliss1_ | streuner: I was going to flash BIOS but umm |
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| 07:31.40 | liable | how can you tell its an acpi problem? |
| 07:31.41 | bliss1_ | liable: thanks |
| 07:32.02 | streuner_ | bliss1_: well, changelog or BTS should mention it then... |
| 07:32.37 | streuner_ | liable: he hanging the last days for an ACPI problem here, but nobody knew an answer |
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| 07:32.53 | sphenxes | i have ordered a second hard drive for my computer. My question, is there any preparation for the new disk, or Debian will recognize it directly "newbie". |
| 07:33.11 | valdyn | D330 is dual core? |
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| 07:33.27 | streuner_ | he using SMP yes |
| 07:33.36 | streuner_ | IIRC |
| 07:33.48 | bliss1_ | liable: ye its a labtop and I if I upgarde the kernel it might help not sure can give it a try |
| 07:33.53 | valdyn | yea but is that chip dual core? or does he use 2 chips? |
| 07:34.03 | streuner_ | dual core |
| 07:34.17 | streuner_ | according to himselfs |
| 07:34.18 | avonej | where should I specify where the kernel source tree is when I'm running the Nvidia graphics drivers installer?? |
| 07:34.21 | bliss1_ | liable: might need a beer! |
| 07:34.36 | liable | bliss1_: my bad, if its dual core you prolly want an smp kernel. |
| 07:34.55 | liable | bliss1_: having one, brb, gotta go get pizza! |
| 07:35.16 | bliss1_ | liable: please i am not sure what dual core means |
| 07:35.50 | Den | Hi - To install Testing with KDE, can I get 1 600+MB cd someplace that doesn't require a net connection to get a complete install? [I've been looking at the debian iso download sites, but cant find an answer to that question. I have found a set of many cde's at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ ] Can I just get the 1st cd there & it will install debian& kde for testing, not needoing a net connection nor othe |
| 07:35.51 | bliss1_ | liable: not two 2.6 kernels on same machine? |
| 07:36.24 | valdyn | bliss1_: dual core means 2 CPU on 1 chip |
| 07:38.37 | bliss1_ | valdyn: its a intel celeron D330 2.66Hz 760DDR RAM L2 cache, 533MHz FSB no not two CPU on 1 chip |
| 07:38.41 | valdyn | Den: you can, but testing is not guaranteed to contain any certain package at any time so if you're unlucky that CD will be missing kde or parts of it |
| 07:39.27 | Den | valdyn: So, what's the best way to get a testing system installed? Start w/ stable & dist-upgrade? |
| 07:39.33 | bliss1_ | liable: its 8.39 in the morning pizza shop not open |
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| 07:40.06 | valdyn | Den: start with stable and upgrade / dist-upgrade / apt-get install <certain package> carefully |
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| 07:40.54 | Den | valdyn: Why do you say "<certain package>" |
| 07:41.09 | avonej | uh...apparently Nvidia graphics drivers are "unable to load the kernal module 'nvidia.ko'" when told to scan the vanilla 2.6.16 kernel source tree... |
| 07:41.12 | avonej | help? |
| 07:41.18 | avonej | heh |
| 07:41.44 | valdyn | Den: dist-upgrade will often not work the way you want, because testing can miss packages, upgrade will not upgrade all you can upgrade, so you fall back to trying 'apt-get install' packages |
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| 07:42.29 | bliss1_ | liable: do you sometimes work from a live cd on say a hda for any reason? |
| 07:42.36 | chealer | avonej: "when told to scan the vanilla 2.6.16 kernel source tree"? what does that mean? |
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| 07:42.47 | Den | valdyn: That sounds like low-quality design of apt-upgrade - any way to avoid those problems? |
| 07:42.51 | valdyn | avonej: stop guessing, no ones scanning a tree |
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| 07:42.58 | valdyn | avonej: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 07:43.16 | simonrvn | avonej: what package are you using? known issue with .16. nvidia has an update |
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| 07:43.27 | avonej | chealer: I used the --kernel-source-tree command line switch to direct the installer to a kernel source tree |
| 07:43.27 | valdyn | Den: no, this has nothing to do with apt-get, it has to do with testing missing package(s) |
| 07:43.35 | simonrvn | if you're using -legacy, you're SOL |
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| 07:43.47 | bliss1_ | liable: ok i will do it catch you later |
| 07:43.53 | streuner_ | bliss1_: pizza... |
| 07:43.53 | simonrvn | i haven't been able to get it to build properly yet |
| 07:44.00 | avonej | simonrvn: I just downloaded the latest version 1.0-8756 |
| 07:44.02 | Den | valdyn: thx :( |
| 07:44.04 | simonrvn | ok |
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| 07:44.06 | chealer | avonej: the switch to which command? |
| 07:44.15 | cmb_ | In haste, recommendations for decent paper book giving an overview of debian for an experienced with Unix/Linux new to debian user, UK available. Heading out to hopefully spend the book tokens in 20 minutes!! :-) |
| 07:44.26 | bliss1_ | streuner: ok I will send one but might not arrive |
| 07:44.29 | avonej | chealer: a command line switch for the nvidia graphics drivers installer program |
| 07:44.47 | chealer | avonej: if you're talking about nvidia-installer, it's not supported here |
| 07:44.51 | hejux | there is always have so many people whatever day and night ! |
| 07:44.54 | chealer | !tell avonej about nvidia-installer |
| 07:44.58 | streuner_ | bliss1_: nah, he said he'll get a pizza (liable) |
| 07:45.11 | avonej | chealer: Oh haha |
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| 07:45.17 | avonej | Okay didn't know that... |
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| 07:45.54 | bliss1_ | streuner: and I said its 8.45 in the morning here pizza hut not open not 24 here yet |
| 07:46.02 | Johnny_5 | which kernal do you recomend i upgrade to? and do i use a kernel image or kernel source? |
| 07:46.13 | hejux | any one could tell me what to do with linux ? |
| 07:46.18 | avonej | /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 07:46.39 | streuner_ | bliss1_: well, it depends how hungry he is then... ;-) |
| 07:47.04 | streuner_ | bliss1_: in .au its prolly afternoon... |
| 07:47.43 | bliss1_ | streuner_ he 's hungry believe me ....!!!!!!!!!! |
| 07:48.02 | streuner_ | :-) |
| 07:48.09 | bliss1_ | liable: au well its a triple XXX then |
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| 07:48.46 | bliss1_ | streuner_ got to go see you |
| 07:49.01 | streuner_ | bliss1_: cu |
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| 07:49.42 | bliss1_ | streuner_ Debian rules ---sweet |
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| 07:52.51 | Johnny_5 | 2.6.8, right? |
| 07:53.23 | streuner_ | images are the one you need |
| 07:53.43 | streuner_ | what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 07:54.00 | Pryon | hejux: whatever you want to do with it. Why do you have a computer? |
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| 07:54.24 | streuner_ | if your system working fine, there is no reason to upgrade kernels, exept security fix |
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| 07:55.23 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 07:55.25 | Johnny_5 | thanx |
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| 07:59.41 | trueno | Hi! how can I make kde icons appear when I plug an usb drive? /mnt/sdX1 dirs are already created |
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| 08:01.09 | tarzeau | trueno: #debian-kde |
| 08:01.50 | trueno | thanks |
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| 08:02.24 | finn23 | anybody have an idea if there's a way to get a broadcom bluetooth dongle working with testing? |
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| 08:02.55 | hejux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:04.47 | Johnny_5 | what kind of system would 686 be for? |
| 08:04.55 | tarzeau | Johnny_5: p2 |
| 08:04.59 | Johnny_5 | just out of curosity? |
| 08:05.09 | Johnny_5 | oh |
| 08:05.10 | Johnny_5 | ok |
| 08:05.13 | stew | !686 |
| 08:05.14 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel, or if you want to take advantage of hyperthreading support, you should install a -smp kernel. |
| 08:05.15 | simonrvn | p2? wth |
| 08:05.20 | tarzeau | simonrvn: pentium 2 |
| 08:05.24 | Jaremy | Does anyone here know how to force apt-get to remove and REINSTALL configuration files? I can't figure it out |
| 08:05.25 | simonrvn | oh, nm then |
| 08:05.27 | tarzeau | simonrvn: i still run some at work (smp) |
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| 08:05.46 | simonrvn | !tell Lord^Xavier -about root |
| 08:05.48 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 08:05.48 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 08:06.26 | tarzeau | someone else use links2 -g as their main browser? |
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| 08:06.39 | inigo | hi |
| 08:07.03 | Jaremy | alright, I never heard of confmiss, the documentation isn't particularly forthcoming on that point |
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| 08:07.18 | hejux | linux takes us to a difficult way ! |
| 08:07.27 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 08:08.28 | hejux | look at windows ... |
| 08:08.36 | hejux | thats simple! |
| 08:08.47 | simonrvn | ... |
| 08:09.04 | simonrvn | only if you ignore all the problems it causes |
| 08:09.15 | simonrvn | that's hardly easy |
| 08:09.20 | simonrvn | or simple |
| 08:09.48 | Johnny_5 | so i don't even really need to do a apt-get distupgrade or whatever |
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| 08:10.02 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 08:10.17 | mynullvoid | my x-windows for my sid breaks |
| 08:10.30 | Miesco | Anyone use crossover? |
| 08:10.33 | chealer | !xwindows |
| 08:10.33 | dpkg | somebody said xwindows was NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, The X Window System, X11R6, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap |
| 08:10.41 | simonrvn | !crossover |
| 08:10.41 | dpkg | it has been said that crossover is a proprietary piece of software that allows x86 linux users to use some Windows Netscape plugins with Netscape/Mozilla/Konq. I'd give you a link, but I don't like spam. :-P, or a different wiring for CAT5 cabling, that allows you to hook 2 ethernet cards directly together with no hub in between. For more information, see http://www.gcctech.com/support/doc/crossover.html |
| 08:11.07 | simonrvn | heh, i thought that said "proprietary piece of shit" |
| 08:11.19 | nvz_ | how could I take all files within a dir and rename them in numerical order regaurdless of their current filenames? |
| 08:11.31 | hejux | hi ! what is this channel about ,do you know ? DALnet #bandung |
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| 08:11.44 | simonrvn | no, and i don't care |
| 08:11.49 | hejux | all are adv.s |
| 08:11.57 | tarzeau | nvz_: easily? |
| 08:11.59 | mynullvoid | The following packages have unmet dependencies: x-window-system-core: Depends: xserver-xorg |
| 08:12.06 | mynullvoid | when try to force I get: xserver-xorg failed to preconfigure, with exit status 64 |
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| 08:12.24 | Jaremy | thanks dpkg, worked wonders, though I will not be able to remember that... |
| 08:12.25 | dpkg | Jaremy: no worries |
| 08:12.27 | nvz_ | tarzeau: :P oh well |
| 08:12.28 | simonrvn | !btssmite mynullvoid |
| 08:12.49 | tarzeau | nvz_: for a in *; do mv $a `printf "%08d.jpg" n`; n=[n+1]; done |
| 08:12.53 | tarzeau | nvz_: something like that? |
| 08:12.59 | tarzeau | nvz_: maybe the 2nd n needs a $ |
| 08:13.09 | tarzeau | or the $ before [ |
| 08:13.26 | tarzeau | dpkg topicsmite mynullvoid |
| 08:13.26 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon mynullvoid. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 08:13.44 | tarzeau | nvz_: i guess these are jpg files, right? |
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| 08:15.21 | nvz_ | tarzeau: they are just files that I rather have numbers than random chars that arent friendly.. it could be letters too or colors.. hell if I care |
| 08:15.31 | nvz_ | numberes just seemed easiest |
| 08:15.33 | tarzeau | nvz_: does it work? |
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| 08:15.42 | nvz_ | nope |
| 08:15.47 | tarzeau | nvz_: file returns different things on the files? why does it fail? |
| 08:15.58 | nvz_ | bash: printf: n: invalid number |
| 08:16.04 | Johnny_5 | now i reboot |
| 08:16.06 | tarzeau | nvz_: n=$[n+1] |
| 08:16.17 | simmerz | ide is compiled as a module in my stock 2.4.27 kernel, and I can't get debian booting. comes up with a error as at www.initforthe.com/snapshot8.png. im using the stock initrd too, so surely that should work fine? Any reason why it shouldn't? |
| 08:16.20 | tarzeau | and $n not n after printf |
| 08:16.25 | valdyn | nvz_: that part should be: n=$(($n+1)) |
| 08:16.40 | tarzeau | valdyn: no the printf n is wrong |
| 08:16.52 | valdyn | tarzeau: the increment too |
| 08:16.59 | nvz_ | tarzeau: bash: [n+1]: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "[n+1]") |
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| 08:17.05 | nvz_ | valdyn: bash: [n+1]+1: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "[n+1]+1") |
| 08:17.07 | nvz_ | :P |
| 08:17.09 | tarzeau | valdyn: i've posted a right increment: 10:13 < tarzeau> nvz_: n=$[n+1] |
| 08:17.15 | tarzeau | nvz_: that one works |
| 08:17.28 | nvz_ | the increment or count is the part I couldnt figure out |
| 08:17.33 | tarzeau | damn what happened to the feh author? http://linuxbrit.net/ |
| 08:17.34 | nvz_ | I |
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| 08:17.54 | tarzeau | i need a tool that prints the number of black pixels, number of white. grayscale, red,green,blue amounts in %? |
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| 08:18.08 | nvz_ | I could have done this some other way anyhow I am sure.. as I dont really need them numbered I just want some kind of consistancy for right now |
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| 08:18.40 | tarzeau | for a in *; do mv $a `printf "%08d" $n`; n=$[n+1]; done |
| 08:18.48 | tarzeau | nvz_: does this not work? |
| 08:18.58 | nvz_ | I just need a way to sterilize filenames for a dir to test some other ideas :P |
| 08:18.58 | Miesco | How do I change what mozilla plugin for embbeded video I use? |
| 08:19.09 | tarzeau | works here |
| 08:19.10 | Miesco | I have more then one, how do I switch between them? |
| 08:19.32 | nvz_ | tarzeau: bash: printf: [n+1]: invalid number \n bash: [n+1]: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "[n+1]") |
| 08:19.45 | tarzeau | nvz_: i have zsh |
| 08:19.54 | tarzeau | nvz_: you have $[n+1] ? |
| 08:19.57 | tarzeau | you need the $ |
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| 08:20.47 | tarzeau | damn debian feh/copyright file has a wrong URL |
| 08:21.50 | nvz_ | tarzeau: no form of n=[n+1] n=$[n+1] or n=$(($n+1)) works in sample code of simply that and a basic loop |
| 08:22.07 | tarzeau | nvz_: it works with zsh here |
| 08:22.17 | nvz_ | tarzeau: though n=[$n+1] does something interesting :P |
| 08:22.20 | valdyn | simmerz: the kernel cannot load the ide module before the ide module is loaded |
| 08:22.20 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.23 | tarzeau | this works |
| 08:22.31 | tarzeau | nvz_: run this with echo $n in shell |
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| 08:22.43 | tarzeau | nvz_: the $ must be before [ |
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| 08:22.59 | tarzeau | it also works with bash |
| 08:23.12 | tarzeau | i wonder what strange shell you have, or why you try all other combinations except the one i give you |
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| 08:24.11 | nvz_ | ls | while read line; do n=$[n+1]; echo $n; done bash: [n+1]: syntax error: operand expected (error token is "[n+1]") |
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| 08:24.38 | nvz_ | isnt there something that just counts and numbers lines of input :P |
| 08:24.55 | valdyn | simmerz: uh, ishould have looked at the screenshot first.. your ide driver is fine |
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| 08:25.08 | valdyn | simmerz: your /dev is not fine |
| 08:25.19 | simmerz | valdyn: so what is the problem here? I've been googling for 2 days and not found a valid response. |
| 08:25.21 | tralala | nvz_: wc |
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| 08:25.42 | tralala | set nick_completion_char : |
| 08:25.44 | simmerz | everything seems to related to udev/devfsd but this is a brand new install with a stock 2.4.27 kernel and initrd |
| 08:25.46 | eleftherios | how can I take the identity of another user on the system? (I have root) |
| 08:26.12 | simmerz | valdyn: btw, /dev does contain console and the permissions are correct |
| 08:26.32 | Martiini | eleftherios, identity theft is a criminal act ;) |
| 08:26.32 | Johnny_5 | it worked!! |
| 08:26.34 | valdyn | simmerz: does initrds /dev contain console ? |
| 08:26.35 | DocTomoe | I have a problem concerning my vexim/courier installation on debian sarge. For some reason, the mailserver refuses to accept any mail and tells me http://pastebin.com/664566 ... how can I disable this check? |
| 08:26.47 | Johnny_5 | now i can mount my external hdd no prob |
| 08:26.48 | simmerz | no idea. how can i mount the initrd? |
| 08:26.51 | aidehua | Why do the DNS admins for domains that host viagra websites use a multicast IP address for one of their nameservers? (c.f. www.goodyarn.info and ns3.goodyarn.info) |
| 08:26.54 | nvz_ | tralala: yeah but it only outputs the count .. cant use that the way I need to |
| 08:26.57 | tarzeau | nvz_: there's seq |
| 08:27.10 | tarzeau | for a in `seq 1 1000000`; do echo $a; done |
| 08:27.17 | tarzeau | nvz_: i don't get why this works for me and not for you |
| 08:27.22 | tarzeau | nvz_: what's your shell and version? |
| 08:27.32 | valdyn | !initrd |
| 08:27.32 | dpkg | rumour has it, initrd is initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
| 08:27.33 | tralala | nvz_: can -n perhaps? |
| 08:27.43 | valdyn | simmerz: mount -o loop -t cramfs or somesuch |
| 08:27.44 | eleftherios | Martiini, this is for a good purpose |
| 08:27.56 | nvz_ | tarzeau: bash 2.05b-26 |
| 08:28.07 | DocTomoe | eleftherios: then let me rephrase: how can I get the thing to work? ;) |
| 08:28.11 | tarzeau | GNU bash, version 3.1.14(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu) |
| 08:28.15 | simmerz | ok |
| 08:28.15 | eleftherios | DocTomoe, ?? |
| 08:28.19 | tarzeau | zsh 4.3.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) |
| 08:28.22 | valdyn | simmerz: or you could just try reinstalling that kernel, initrds are generated upon install |
| 08:28.40 | DocTomoe | eleftherios: sorry ... I sould get used to nicks again ;) |
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| 08:28.49 | simmerz | valdyn: ive tried 3 times. its a fresh system install |
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| 08:29.17 | nvz_ | must be some perl-fu I can feed to rename and get it to uniformly rename an entire dir with alphabets, numbers, random names from a list.. whatever |
| 08:29.20 | tralala | no need to reinstall initrd is generated with reconfigure |
| 08:29.26 | valdyn | simmerz: so the initrd generation script does not work properly for qemu maybe, you have to modify the initrd probably |
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| 08:29.53 | nvz_ | just eliminating any strange chars or predefined "file extensions" |
| 08:30.10 | tralala | nvz_ : man rename |
| 08:30.11 | nvz_ | giving me something sterile to work with |
| 08:30.17 | simmerz | valdyn: why would it be any different than a normal machine? |
| 08:30.38 | nvz_ | tralala: yeah I know how to use rename, I dont know perl.. thats the problem |
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| 08:33.34 | nvz_ | screw it, I |
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| 08:36.34 | simmerz | valdyn: using the gentoo livecd to access the debian partition, but it doesnt have cramfs built in. can i do it with a debian install cd? |
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| 08:39.34 | nrdb | I am looking for the config file that controls the KDE auto-login? |
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| 08:40.06 | vosti | nrdb, you can configure it rtought the control panel |
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| 08:40.52 | nrdb | vosti: it isn't giving me the option of using the user I want I would like to do it by hane. |
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| 08:41.48 | eleftherios | is there a way to take a user's identity? (I have root access) |
| 08:41.55 | bigua | my keyboard dont work right when im log using kdm, only with startx its job right |
| 08:42.07 | vosti | nrdb, and can't you type your user? i think you can't edit any config file for security issue |
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| 08:42.21 | diazepam | eletherious - su - username |
| 08:42.37 | Martiini | eleftherios, su (user) ? |
| 08:42.57 | eleftherios | diazepam, no this only gives me the environment the user would have upon login |
| 08:43.13 | diazepam | do you want to make a newuser? |
| 08:43.14 | nrdb | vosti: I have root access. |
| 08:43.21 | eleftherios | diazepam, I want to be able to do cd ~ and go to that user's directory etc. |
| 08:43.44 | diazepam | if you have root access you should be able to do that no probs |
| 08:43.48 | eleftherios | diazepam, no I want to become that user |
| 08:43.52 | eleftherios | diazepam, how? |
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| 08:44.19 | diazepam | just type the long path name |
| 08:44.26 | nrdb | eleftherios: try 'sudo -H <user>' |
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| 08:45.23 | Martiini | which app installs deb packages automagically (when I double cliick on it) |
| 08:45.30 | diazepam | anyone here know what repositry i need to add to get the kaffeine player? |
| 08:45.37 | vosti | nrdb, if you can't with control panel i have no idea... |
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| 08:45.42 | tarzeau | diazepam: is that kde? |
| 08:45.47 | LinuxHel1 | How do I change the default runlevel in deebz ? |
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| 08:45.47 | tarzeau | Martiini: synaptic? |
| 08:45.53 | Martiini | nope |
| 08:45.58 | tarzeau | LinuxHel1: /etc/inittab |
| 08:45.59 | nrdb | vosti: OK :( |
| 08:46.05 | LinuxHel1 | oh yes |
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| 08:46.33 | vosti | nrdb, maybe switch to gdm can be a solution :) |
| 08:46.42 | eleftherios | nrdb, I'll try that, thanks |
| 08:46.45 | viyyer | hi I am trying to install xen with this dochttp://www.debian-administration.org/articles/320 |
| 08:46.50 | diazepam | tarzeau - nah its platform independant i think |
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| 08:47.03 | viyyer | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/320 set the link right |
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| 08:47.20 | diazepam | have been to the homepage but it doesnt seem to be in the standard repository as stated |
| 08:47.23 | tarzeau | viyyer: and where do you fail? |
| 08:47.32 | tarzeau | diazepam: are you on sid? |
| 08:47.36 | eleftherios | nrdb, no, that doesn't work |
| 08:47.46 | tarzeau | diazepam: it is, for sid. and for #debian-kde |
| 08:47.58 | viyyer | tarzeau, when I run this step -- ~/linux-2.6.12# /usr/src/kernel-patches/i386/apply/xen |
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| 08:48.04 | diazepam | tarzeau - testing/unstable |
| 08:48.08 | eleftherios | does anyone know how root can become another user in a way that the system see the user and not root? |
| 08:48.13 | tarzeau | diazepam: no testing OR unstable |
| 08:48.16 | eleftherios | s/see/sees |
| 08:48.17 | viyyer | tarzeau, I get this error |
| 08:48.20 | tarzeau | diazepam: NEVER mix any of the full archives |
| 08:48.23 | viyyer | START applying xen patch (xen) |
| 08:48.24 | viyyer | Testing whether "xen" patch for 2.6.11 applies (dry run): |
| 08:48.24 | viyyer | "xen" patch for 2.6.11 succeeded |
| 08:48.24 | viyyer | Removing empty files: |
| 08:48.24 | viyyer | Done. |
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| 08:48.44 | viyyer | damn.. didn't realize it was so many lines |
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| 08:48.58 | tarzeau | viyyer: post an url to it |
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| 08:49.21 | tarzeau | eleftherios: su - user |
| 08:49.29 | MarcoPau | I'm doing a disc recovery with the Seagate utility that says it doesn't want a boot manager such as lilo in the MBR. How do I wipe it out? |
| 08:49.40 | eleftherios | tarzeau, no, this only gives you the environment the user would see upon login |
| 08:49.42 | viyyer | tarzeau, http://pastebin.com/664573 |
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| 08:50.01 | viyyer | tarzeau, is this a problem ,.. should I just go ahead and compile ??? |
| 08:50.27 | Eclipser | grr |
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| 08:50.33 | Eclipser | nvidia module won't compile on 2.6.16.5 :< |
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| 08:50.50 | sorb | if the autodetection process fails for my modem, is this possibly due to disabling APIC at installation? |
| 08:50.53 | tarzeau | Eclipser: why not? checked #nvidia yet? |
| 08:50.55 | Garda | hey guys |
| 08:51.02 | Garda | what ports does smb file sharing need |
| 08:51.11 | tarzeau | viyyer: i'm not sure what it tries to do. go ahead and try |
| 08:51.20 | Eclipser | tarzeau, some struct doesn't have some field |
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| 08:51.22 | tarzeau | Garda: many, check /etc/services and a sniffer |
| 08:51.50 | Eclipser | hmm |
| 08:51.53 | avonej | Where is the configuration file located that updates the sources (installation media, internet servers, etc.) the package manager uses to look for packages? |
| 08:52.00 | Eclipser | I need to decide which channel to part in order to join #nvidia |
| 08:52.27 | nkuttler | avonej: man sources.list |
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| 08:52.28 | nrdb | eleftherios: did you find an answer ? |
| 08:52.31 | Eclipser | #nvidia topic doesn't seem to have anything special |
| 08:52.38 | avonej | nkuttler: Thank you |
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| 08:53.52 | reddi | hi, my debian shouts out: "kernel panic: attempted to kill init!" |
| 08:53.52 | reddi | is there a way to overgoe this? |
| 08:53.52 | MrNaz | My debian shouts: Kernel panic! Quick! Into the Batboat! |
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| 08:53.57 | simmerz | reddi: I have the same problem. does it say it is error 432? |
| 08:53.59 | reddi | very funny ;-) |
| 08:54.02 | MrNaz | hehe |
| 08:54.08 | reddi | simmerz: yes, one line before |
| 08:54.17 | reddi | exec: 432 chroot i o error |
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| 08:54.33 | simmerz | reddi: i have the following: www.initforthe.com/snapshot8.png |
| 08:54.41 | reddi | is there a way to repair the hd (e.g. via knoppix?) |
| 08:55.05 | reddi | simmerz: no it is not the same ;-) |
| 08:55.14 | reddi | only the kernel panic message is the same g |
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| 08:55.24 | bug2000 | What are trolls? |
| 08:55.32 | eleftherios | nrdb, no, if I su - <user> then when I do: cd ~ I am taken to root's home dir, not to that users. This is not what I am looking for. I would like to become that user completely. |
| 08:55.33 | bug2000 | It's in the guide lines. |
| 08:55.43 | eleftherios | nrdb, never mind, it was more of a curiosity question |
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| 08:56.19 | nkuttler | bug2000: /msg dpkg troll |
| 08:56.20 | viyyer | tarzeau, having a problem building the kernel package make-kpkg --revision skx1 --append-to-version .6-xen --arch xen kernel_image |
| 08:56.40 | nrdb | eleftherios: I used 'su - <name>' and when I did a 'cd ~' it took me to the correct home directory. |
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| 08:56.56 | blaheva | !troll |
| 08:56.56 | dpkg | i guess troll is In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the Internet, such as in online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants. "Troll" can also mean the message itself or be a verb meaning to post such messages. "Trolling" is also commonly used to describe the activity. |
| 08:57.17 | simmerz | reddi: do you have the knoppix live cd there? |
| 08:57.26 | viyyer | tarzeau, http://pastebin.com/664588 |
| 08:57.30 | viyyer | dpkg xen |
| 08:57.31 | dpkg | xen is, like, an open source virtual machine monitor, developed by the University of Cambridge. It is intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. Operating systems must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen (although compatibility is maintained for user applications). This enables Xen to achieve high performance virtualization without special hardware support. |
| 08:57.35 | reddi | simmerz: of course ;- |
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| 08:58.07 | reddi | i used already fsk -r /dev/hda1 |
| 08:58.18 | tarzeau | viyyer: hehe these things suck. why xen at all? |
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| 08:58.48 | bliss1_ | hi |
| 08:58.48 | viyyer | tarzeau, need to test something on ubuntu |
| 08:59.10 | simmerz | reddi: does it have cramfs on it by any chance? |
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| 09:00.15 | reddi | simmerz: wait a moment, i will boot it ;-) |
| 09:01.17 | bliss1_ | liable: thanks for advice in upgradeing kernel to 2.6-686 but still same ACPI message on boot http://pastebin.ca/49443 |
| 09:02.31 | bliss1_ | liable: looks like its pizza and a beer |
| 09:02.33 | liable | bliss1_: what problems does that actually cause for you? |
| 09:03.10 | bliss1_ | liable: cannot reboot only shutdown |
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| 09:03.31 | liable | bliss1_: ok. |
| 09:03.41 | bliss1_ | liable: ok just a sec |
| 09:04.12 | Eclipser | nah |
| 09:04.14 | Eclipser | it won't compile... |
| 09:04.21 | eleftherios | nrdb, really? |
| 09:04.32 | eleftherios | nrdb, then something is broken in my system (Etch) |
| 09:04.46 | bengrubb | is this the command to stop bind in debian "cd /etc/bind stop" ? |
| 09:04.53 | eleftherios | nrdb, or perhpas that user has a /bin/false |
| 09:04.58 | eleftherios | for login shell |
| 09:05.01 | reddi | simmerz: if the command is cramfs then it says (even as a su) command not found |
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| 09:05.30 | simmerz | reddi: it will probably be a module |
| 09:05.39 | liable | bliss1_: what is this laptop? |
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| 09:06.40 | bliss1_ | liable: you see i have two debian os's with the same kernel 2.6.-686 and when I installed sarge I had to disable USB in BIOS so i can use my labtop keypad, this is when reboot problem started it has been suggeated to flash my BIOS but all sererchs point to having windows installed |
| 09:07.07 | bliss1_ | liable; acer travelmate2200 |
| 09:07.41 | sorb | If autodetection fails for my modem, do I need to get drivers? |
| 09:07.53 | liable | bliss1_: have you tried enabling usb in bios and disabling it as a kernel option? |
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| 09:08.08 | simmerz | reddi: can you modprobe cramfs? |
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| 09:08.40 | bliss1_ | liable: no I would like to know how to do that please |
| 09:08.44 | tralala | bengrubb : it should be more like /etc/init.d/bind stop |
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| 09:09.16 | bliss1_ | liable; the kernel option part |
| 09:09.48 | tbf | does debian support cherry picking for packages, like running sarge but automatically getting updated xen packages from unstable? |
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| 09:10.25 | liable | bliss1_: add 'nousb' to the end of your kernel line. |
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| 09:10.58 | bliss1_ | liable: give an example please |
| 09:11.01 | liable | bliss1_: enable it in bios, when grub boots, press e, then you can try it without editing any files. |
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| 09:12.02 | reddi | simmerz: it is funny: knoppix reads the hda1, debian says with hda1 kernel panic |
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| 09:12.59 | liable | bliss1_: the line thats says, kernel /boot/2.6.8-blah root=/dev/blah ro ... add 'nousb' to the end of this line |
| 09:13.18 | simmerz | reddi: someone said it might be the initrd that is incorrect. is it a new install for you? |
| 09:13.38 | bliss1_ | liable: i thought it was that just checking thanks |
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| 09:13.50 | reddi | simmerz: not the installation is about 12 month old |
| 09:13.57 | reddi | not -> no |
| 09:14.09 | simmerz | reddi: mine is brand new. and it doesnt work. im so confused. |
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| 09:14.26 | liable | bliss1_: as i said, just use the grub editing mode (at boot) to add it, and see what happens first |
| 09:14.52 | bliss1_ | liable: that may solve the reboot but what about the APCI thing is that an issue |
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| 09:15.30 | reddi | simmerz: could i repair initrd with easy techniques? |
| 09:15.37 | reddi | or is the only way a new installation |
| 09:15.47 | liable | bliss1_: paste your /var/log/kern.log to a paster |
| 09:15.52 | milez | so, what's up with xorg in unstable? |
| 09:16.06 | milez | dpkg --unpack preinst script borks |
| 09:16.53 | simmerz | reddi: thats what im trying to work out |
| 09:17.06 | nkuttler | milez: you run unstable and don't know how to fix such things? |
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| 09:18.19 | bengrubb | you know how apt-get bind9 gets bind9 how do i remove it? |
| 09:18.20 | viyyer | tarzeau, know of a way into this? |
| 09:18.48 | milez | nkuttler: for a number of years now, yes. are you about to give me a religious preaching? |
| 09:18.54 | keck0f | can i install "XFree86" instead of xorg on sid-amd64? what packages? what apt-lines? |
| 09:19.23 | bliss1_ | liable: http://pastebin.ca/49593 |
| 09:19.28 | nkuttler | milez: maybe if i cared |
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| 09:19.41 | milez | i looked into the preinst script but saw no place where it can return the error code (64) that dpkg claims that it does |
| 09:20.12 | tarzeau | viyyer: sorry now |
| 09:20.13 | tarzeau | no |
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| 09:21.26 | liable | bliss1_: what things have you actually tried? |
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| 09:22.26 | avonej | What is the reason the official Nvidia graphics installer program asks to compile a kernel interface? |
| 09:22.38 | markit | ehm, as soon as I have entered this channel I got |
| 09:22.41 | markit | [11:22] <meLanie[huh]> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 09:22.43 | milez | i see that no one will bother helping me here. |
| 09:23.00 | nkuttler | milez: help set, see -x |
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| 09:23.15 | bliss1_ | nothing much i was going to flash BIOS if i would find a way O i did try enabling BIOS again but that did not work |
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| 09:23.33 | liable | bliss1_: um, your usb is still detected. can you actually use it. forget about the nousb option. |
| 09:24.00 | sanmarcos | how can I analyze a tcpdump file? |
| 09:24.12 | Eclipser | I don't understand this |
| 09:24.14 | milez | nkuttler: of dpkg? |
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| 09:24.24 | vinboy | hi |
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| 09:24.32 | vinboy | can someone tell me about dselect pls? |
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| 09:24.37 | liable | bliss1_: what happens when you try reboot? |
| 09:24.42 | Eclipser | struct task_struct didn't have rlim member in my previous kernel and it compiled quite well with it... |
| 09:24.49 | Eclipser | now it whines about it and doesn't compile |
| 09:24.50 | simmerz | valdyn: finally got into the initrd, and console is there |
| 09:25.28 | PhoenixMan | hi. We have a server and there's a somewhat suspicious user on it (who seems to be able to execute commands as root even though the user is not in the "wheel" group nor has sudo access). We'd like to log all of the commands the user uses in a special logfile which can be reviewed later on. |
| 09:25.46 | PhoenixMan | So here's my question: how would one log commands to a logfile? |
| 09:25.58 | bliss1_ | liable: i do NOT use usb anymore my router is connected via ethernet so do not need it |
| 09:26.04 | nkuttler | milez: type 'help set'. read it. set -x is your friend if you want to debug a script. |
| 09:26.31 | liable | bliss1_: you dont have a single usb gadget so you can even test it? |
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| 09:27.13 | WhiteSeal | morning |
| 09:27.17 | milez | nkuttler: thank you |
| 09:27.30 | bliss1_ | liable: sarge says rebooting............... screen goes blank but cannot switch of labtop switch on labtop must use mains switch -- |
| 09:27.32 | tralala | PhoenixMan : ttysnoop, iirc |
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| 09:28.14 | intx | how do I extract a deb file? |
| 09:28.19 | bliss1_ | liable: the router can be connected via usb if i want |
| 09:28.24 | liable | bliss1_: but shutdown actually turns it completely off? |
| 09:28.39 | bliss1_ | liable: yes |
| 09:28.41 | bony | intx, dpkg -x <.deb> |
| 09:28.42 | simmerz | can anyone shed some light on the following error: www.initforthe.com/snapshot8.png |
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| 09:29.44 | jammyflynn20 | hey room |
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| 09:29.59 | milez | nkuttler: running set -x has no effect on verbosity of dpkg --unpack output |
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| 09:30.20 | bengrubb | u still on that error |
| 09:30.31 | jammyflynn20 | down downloading games its seems very strange because there isnt an install or anything how would i get it running |
| 09:30.52 | jammyflynn20 | do i need to compile |
| 09:31.06 | nkuttler | milez: put it in the script... |
| 09:32.24 | bliss1_ | liable: strange thing is that if I enable usb I cannot use keypad in sarge BUT i can use keypad in other debian os |
| 09:32.35 | madroach | How do I set the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? |
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| 09:32.52 | jammyflynn20 | do i need to compile games to play them |
| 09:33.47 | jammyflynn20 | debs x whats wrong |
| 09:34.46 | liable | bliss1_: try noapic or nolapic boot options. other than that, i dunno. you are gonna have to google through peoples reports on acer laptops. |
| 09:35.16 | avonej | Hi, I'm wondering if I can install the nVidia graphics driver on a Debian sarge system if I recompiled the kernel to 2.6.16 manually from the vanilla source (read: not using kernel-package)? |
| 09:35.29 | bliss1_ | liable; ok thanks for suggestions |
| 09:35.34 | superlinux | hello! i have a dedicated IP for me and i am ISP'ing in my neighbourhood. should i register a dot com for my IP at some place, or am i allowed to do it freely on my server? |
| 09:35.54 | madroach | jammyflynn20: You will need a modular kernel. |
| 09:35.54 | intx | bony: is there any way to extract without using dpkg? |
| 09:36.01 | PhoenixMan | Erm |
| 09:36.09 | superlinux | ..just to be known online of course |
| 09:36.17 | madroach | avonej: You will need a modular kernel. |
| 09:36.35 | bony | intx, i don't think so ! let me check |
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| 09:36.47 | PhoenixMan | The user in question connects via SSH. I'm using TTYSNOOP. It's located in /usr/sbin/ttysnoop. How would I make it so anyone logged in via SSH is logged to a file called /var/log/sshd/<ip>.log ? |
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| 09:37.16 | avonej | madroach: Ah, do you happen to know a man page or article that explains how I get the modular kernel to get this working? |
| 09:37.25 | littletux | intx: a deb file is simply an ar archive |
| 09:37.37 | liable | bliss1_: what is this "other debian os" you talk about? |
| 09:37.38 | littletux | try ar x yourdebfile.deb |
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| 09:37.47 | madroach | avonej: googled for "nvidia driver howto"?? |
| 09:37.50 | simmerz | my initrd loadmodules doesnt have ext3. should it? it has ide-detect and ide-disk |
| 09:37.57 | bony | intx, use fileroller |
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| 09:38.05 | intx | I don't have ar or fileroller :/ |
| 09:38.24 | bony | intx, do you have tar ? |
| 09:38.35 | bliss1_ | liable: starts with "u" don't want to mention it here |
| 09:38.43 | bug2000 | Q: I am installing wesnoth using 'apt-get install wesnoth' why am I seeing weird charactors? |
| 09:38.46 | liable | bliss1_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer look for the one for your model. |
| 09:38.48 | intx | bony: yeah |
| 09:39.05 | bony | intx, then try to extract with tar |
| 09:39.08 | liable | bliss1_: err, the 2200 |
| 09:39.08 | bony | hope it work's |
| 09:39.11 | avonej | madroach: Ah I see. I was including the term "Debian" in the search terms, which caused it only to return results of the Debian way of installation using packages. |
| 09:39.33 | bliss1_ | liable; you knew before I tpyed it |
| 09:39.39 | PhoenixMan | The user in question connects via SSH. I'm using TTYSNOOP. It's located in /usr/sbin/ttysnoop. How would I make it so anyone logged in via SSH is logged to a file called /var/log/sshd/<ip>.log ? |
| 09:39.39 | bliss1_ | typed |
| 09:40.22 | madroach | avonej: This way should work. Just do it that way and make sure your vanilla kernel has modules enabled. |
| 09:40.31 | liable | bliss1_: check the dsdt thingo out.. whatever the hell that is.. http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/index.php |
| 09:41.02 | milez | can anyone point me to a document on how to make changes in .deb archives? |
| 09:41.35 | madroach | Can I set the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS in debian/rules using dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 09:41.56 | madroach | milez: debian new maintainer guide maybe? |
| 09:42.21 | milez | madroach: thanks |
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| 09:43.08 | intx | bony, littletux, thanks |
| 09:43.23 | bony | intx, did it work ? |
| 09:43.47 | intx | actually couldn't figure out how to do it, but found dpkg-deb |
| 09:44.30 | bliss1_ | liable: the support page says about disableing USB in BIOS but in the case of Ubuntu I did not need to umm what if I move sarge to hda1 from hda2 --may do sowthing as ubuntu is on hda1 at the moment? |
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| 09:45.04 | simmerz | does ext3 not get put into the initrd image? |
| 09:45.26 | liable | bliss1_: i doubt it would help. If you are just trying debian out, why dont you give etch a go? |
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| 09:45.59 | dotdashandy | Hey, I got Debian installed and running, but it's using the generic 386 kernel. Am I right in doing sudo apt-get AMD64-Generic ? |
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| 09:46.46 | sanmarcos | what is that format to glob ips called? |
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| 09:47.09 | sanmarcos | how would I glob 192.168.1.100/255, using /24 I believe? |
| 09:47.12 | avonej | madroach: I need the latest version of Nvidia's graphics driver, though. |
| 09:47.18 | intx | is there anyway to order by date when a debian package was installed? |
| 09:47.20 | jammyflynn20 | ahhhh |
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| 09:47.27 | avonej | So I think I have to use the Nvidia installer, correct? |
| 09:47.57 | tarzeau | intx: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 09:48.00 | jammyflynn20 | nvidia -- i cant even install it |
| 09:48.03 | tarzeau | intx: doesn't exist for sarge yet |
| 09:48.05 | nkuttler | sanmarcos: what do you mean? a netmask? |
| 09:48.06 | madroach | avonej: no, I don't think so. |
| 09:48.09 | jammyflynn20 | dont have kernel or somthing for it |
| 09:48.13 | sanmarcos | nkuttler: there is something else |
| 09:48.34 | bug2000 | When I try to start X I get errors about: libXmuu.so.1 |
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| 09:49.23 | avonej | madroach: well iwould making my kernel modular be necesary to recompile? |
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| 09:49.47 | sanmarcos | with class c netowrks |
| 09:49.52 | PhoenixMan | The user in question connects via SSH. I'm using TTYSNOOP. It's located in /usr/sbin/ttysnoop. How would I make it so anyone logged in via SSH is logged to a file called /var/log/sshd/<ip>.log ? |
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| 09:50.22 | madroach | avonej: Yes, but first check /boot/config-2.x.x if CONFIG_MODULES is already enabled. |
| 09:50.38 | jneves | anyone else has cupsd crashing once a day in unstable? |
| 09:50.39 | avonej | I've never experienced such difficulties installing from the official Nvidia setup program in other distributions before, which is why I'm asking. |
| 09:50.42 | tarzeau | anyone else get this when launching debtags-edit: Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file |
| 09:50.48 | avonej | Okay will do |
| 09:50.59 | PhoenixMan | The user in question connects via SSH. I'm using TTYSNOOP. It's located in /usr/sbin/ttysnoop. How would I make it so anyone logged in via SSH is logged to a file called /var/log/sshd/<ip>.log ? |
| 09:51.00 | sylvantis | hey |
| 09:51.04 | simmerz | no one willing to help me resolve my pivot_root boot error? |
| 09:51.09 | sylvantis | now do i emerge gkrellm on knoppix? |
| 09:51.25 | sylvantis | the package isnt available the thing says |
| 09:51.32 | liable | Kevin`: are you registered? |
| 09:51.37 | Kevin` | yes |
| 09:51.41 | tarzeau | why is my fonts so screwed? http://io.debian.net/~tar/screenshots/debtags-edit.png |
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| 09:51.56 | tarzeau | firefox and gtk2 apps are absolutely unreadable |
| 09:51.56 | yosef | Hi, |
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| 09:52.19 | sylvantis | how can i search for a package on the server with apt-get? |
| 09:52.19 | nkuttler | sylvantis: neither emerge nor knoppix are on-topic |
| 09:52.34 | tarzeau | sylvantis: apt-cache search whatever |
| 09:52.39 | sylvantis | no but i do apt-get install gkrellm |
| 09:52.39 | TraceGreen | Hello, my /dev/ don't have any hdc*, what's wrong? i compile my kernel myself. |
| 09:52.40 | tarzeau | nkuttler: unless he ports emerge to debian |
| 09:52.43 | sylvantis | ahh |
| 09:52.45 | sylvantis | ok ty |
| 09:52.50 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: sdc*? |
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| 09:53.12 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, hdc, just cdrom. |
| 09:53.14 | avonej | madroach: It appears CONFIG_MODULES already *is* enabled. |
| 09:53.14 | sylvantis | are there more varants of apt-get and apt-cache? |
| 09:53.26 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: what kernel? sata or not? |
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| 09:53.33 | madroach | avonej: then just install it using the nvidia installer. |
| 09:53.38 | Braindead | sylvantis: do the right thing: use aptitude (aptitude-doc is your friend) |
| 09:53.38 | PhoenixMan | How do you recompile SSHD? |
| 09:53.43 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: cdrom can be hd* as well as sd* |
| 09:53.46 | bug2000 | No Answer? Then I guess I am alone in it. |
| 09:53.49 | avonej | I tried, but it complained about not having a kernel interface. |
| 09:53.53 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: debian package? debuild |
| 09:53.56 | sylvantis | ok i ll try |
| 09:54.06 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: otherwise make clean distclean; make probably |
| 09:54.16 | PhoenixMan | <_< |
| 09:54.19 | yosef | How to install SMB support, to use windows network |
| 09:54.22 | TraceGreen | tazle, actually, debian kernel 2.6.11-1-686 |
| 09:54.25 | avonej | That's sort of my dilemma that I;ve never run into before. |
| 09:54.26 | tarzeau | yosef: smbclient samba |
| 09:54.40 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 09:54.40 | dpkg | debstats is probably managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 09:54.50 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, does debian compile all these to modules? |
| 09:54.57 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: modules? |
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| 09:55.13 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: i don't use debian kernels for some time now... no idea |
| 09:55.35 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, I just copy debian 2.6.11-1-686's bzimage to other place to boot |
| 09:55.41 | Braindead | TraceGreen: it's fairly clear you don't have neither you have to compile your own kernel. use precompiled images |
| 09:55.45 | Johnny_5 | goodnite all |
| 09:55.48 | avonej | /msg madroach "No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means that the installer will need to compile a new kernel interface" |
| 09:55.52 | Johnny_5 | and thanx for your help |
| 09:55.55 | avonej | Oh this IRC client sucks. |
| 09:56.03 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, thanks anyway. |
| 09:56.08 | josh0001 | Hello, does anyone know how to help me with my linux system. I am using a laptop and using MEPIS. I have posted it on their forum but after many hours no reply! If you're willing to help (I'm a newbie, so I'm sure it won't be too difficult) then just ask and i shall link to the post. Thank you |
| 09:56.10 | tarzeau | avonej: which is it? |
| 09:56.18 | avonej | How the hell did /msg not register as a command |
| 09:56.20 | tarzeau | dpkg topicsmite josh0001 |
| 09:56.21 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon josh0001. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 09:56.27 | sylvantis | yay |
| 09:56.27 | tarzeau | josh0001: NO you can not get help here for #mepis |
| 09:56.35 | sylvantis | why does aptitude work and apt-get not? |
| 09:56.37 | avonej | I get that error when I try to run the official Nvidia drivers installer. |
| 09:56.38 | josh0001 | mepis is based on debian |
| 09:56.42 | tarzeau | sylvantis: apt-get works perfectly here |
| 09:56.44 | tarzeau | !based on debian |
| 09:56.44 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 09:56.46 | Braindead | sylvantis: I guess it's a PEBKAC |
| 09:56.47 | tarzeau | josh0001: NO NO NO! |
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| 09:56.58 | tarzeau | apt based on debian |
| 09:56.59 | apt | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Lindows, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
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| 09:57.05 | josh0001 | you're linux users, and it's a sub-system issue. |
| 09:57.07 | tarzeau | WHO THE FUCK REMOVED based on debian factoids? |
| 09:57.23 | tarzeau | josh0001: mepis is not debian |
| 09:57.28 | tarzeau | !ask |
| 09:57.28 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 09:57.30 | liable | tarzeau: i think don did it.. |
| 09:57.34 | sylvantis | pebkac? |
| 09:57.37 | tarzeau | liable: it was very useful |
| 09:57.38 | avonej | tarzeau: Might you have any idea why the error is happening even though I have my kernel configured to use modules? |
| 09:57.44 | Braindead | sylvantis: PEBKAC,or STFW |
| 09:57.47 | liable | tarzeau: i know. |
| 09:57.48 | sylvantis | actually it just printed much text |
| 09:57.49 | tarzeau | liable: do you have an idea where to get what it was? |
| 09:57.54 | sylvantis | but didnt actually install anything |
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| 09:58.03 | Braindead | sylvantis: RTFM then |
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| 09:58.16 | tarzeau | !pebkac |
| 09:58.16 | dpkg | i heard pebkac is Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, or PEBCAK. PEBMAC, PICNIC. PEBRHAL, or http://pebkac.ubergoth.net/ |
| 09:58.20 | liable | tarzeau: not unless ravenbird may still have it or sussudios bot |
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| 09:58.30 | tarzeau | ravenbird based on debian |
| 09:58.31 | ravenbird | tarzeau: i don't know |
| 09:58.37 | tarzeau | liable: what was sussudio bots name? |
| 09:58.41 | sylvantis | lol |
| 09:58.46 | Braindead | sylvantis: aptitude-doc really is your friend. and http://qref.sf.net too |
| 09:58.53 | sylvantis | but how the heck do i install gkrellm now? |
| 09:59.08 | liable | tarzeau: i cant remember, I dont think its usually here all the time anyway. |
| 09:59.11 | sylvantis | but aptitude-doc command not found it says |
| 09:59.12 | StM | i have a little problem... When i ping a domain and the domain doesn't exists he rewrite the domain to my primary domain. How prevent i that? |
| 09:59.13 | StM | server:/etc# ping notexistinghost.com |
| 09:59.13 | StM | PING notexistinghost.com.site-to-make.nl (85.92.129.100) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 09:59.31 | tarzeau | liable: my cursing is worse than the based on debian factoid |
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| 09:59.38 | liable | haha |
| 09:59.47 | PhoenixMan | argh. I don't want to have to recompile SSHD |
| 09:59.49 | avonej | argh |
| 09:59.55 | Braindead | sylvantis: aptitude-doc is a package with fine documentation to read. install it. you don't know how to install a package? RTFM -> http://qref.sf.net |
| 10:00.08 | PhoenixMan | I need a logging system which logs all the commands sent by a user whilst connected through SSH. ALL commands. |
| 10:00.22 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: hahaha |
| 10:00.31 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: and you are the police? |
| 10:00.37 | sylvantis | ok i ll go reading it brb :) |
| 10:00.39 | sanmarcos | !snort |
| 10:00.39 | dpkg | snort is probably a GPL-licensed open source network intrusion detection system. Snort is capable of performing real-time traffic analysis and packet logging on IP networks. It can perform protocol analysis, content searching/matching and can be used to detect a variety of attacks and probes, such as buffer overflows, stealth port scans, CGI attacks, SMB probes, OS fingerprinting attempts, and much more. http://snort.org |
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| 10:00.42 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: do you tell the users you do that? |
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| 10:01.02 | yosef | tarzeau: I install, how can I use the windows workgroup printer? |
| 10:01.19 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: in what country are you? |
| 10:01.35 | tarzeau | yosef: is the printer networked and can do postscript? |
| 10:01.42 | PhoenixMan | Netherlands. |
| 10:01.51 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: and you think what you want to do is legal? |
| 10:01.59 | PhoenixMan | It is. |
| 10:02.06 | StM | it isn't... |
| 10:02.17 | PhoenixMan | I'm not allowed to manage a server I was told to manage? |
| 10:02.21 | PhoenixMan | Eh? |
| 10:02.26 | bliss1_ | liable: ok found something I have a dsdt.dsl file for my labtop from the sourceforge site Now I think the comand line might be just a sec |
| 10:02.33 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: you can manage it without sniffing in other peoples privacy |
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| 10:02.36 | PhoenixMan | I want to be able to log the commands a certain user sends because that user got his way into root somehow. |
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| 10:02.49 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: then you did something very badly |
| 10:02.52 | PhoenixMan | Oh pah! It's a free service. |
| 10:02.54 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: like security |
| 10:02.59 | tarzeau | !harden-doc |
| 10:02.59 | dpkg | from memory, harden-doc is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/index.en.html#contents |
| 10:03.00 | PhoenixMan | Actually, the user had root access before. |
| 10:03.11 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: can i use that free service too? |
| 10:03.14 | Braindead | brilliant idea |
| 10:03.15 | PhoenixMan | But now he's setup some kind of script or whatnot which I can't detect which gives him access. |
| 10:03.27 | yosef | tarzeau: Yes, I can print from other win computer |
| 10:03.30 | PhoenixMan | And he's been a very bad boy and needs to be removed of access. |
| 10:03.32 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: try read the harden-doc, use netstat and gdb |
| 10:03.35 | jneves | PhoenixMan: check every setuid executable in the filesystem? |
| 10:03.36 | liable | PhoenixMan: if the user has ever had root access, and you cant trust them, you may as well re-install the box now. |
| 10:03.47 | tarzeau | yosef: no no, i asked if the printer has internet and if it can do postscript |
| 10:04.19 | StM | i have a little problem... When i ping a domain and the domain doesn't exists he rewrite the domain to my primary domain. How prevent i that? |
| 10:04.19 | StM | server:/etc# ping notexistinghost.com |
| 10:04.20 | StM | PING notexistinghost.com.site-to-make.nl (85.92.129.100) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 10:04.29 | PhoenixMan | "sudo" is installed. Somehow he gained the ability to overwrite the file with his own "sudoers" file |
| 10:04.48 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: what was the original sudoers file permission? |
| 10:04.49 | yosef | tarzeau: no , it has no internet |
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| 10:04.57 | PhoenixMan | read-only for root |
| 10:04.59 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: which version of sudo did you have and what was the original content? |
| 10:05.04 | PhoenixMan | and it's still read-only for root |
| 10:05.05 | tarzeau | yosef: then your printer sucks |
| 10:05.20 | tarzeau | yosef: and i swear i will never support sucking printers |
| 10:05.22 | yosef | tarzeau: I don't portscript ! We only have 6 pcs wiith windows network |
| 10:05.23 | PhoenixMan | he must've have some kind of script with setuid or whatever which he can execute and would give him access |
| 10:05.28 | PhoenixMan | But I can't locate it |
| 10:05.32 | tarzeau | yosef: then don't use linux |
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| 10:05.42 | tarzeau | yosef: or don't use printer with linux |
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| 10:05.45 | yosef | tarzeau: why do you say that |
| 10:05.48 | xarragon | Hello, could anyone enlighten me as to why the fonts available in different applications (inkscape, OO.org draw, gimp) differs? Is there any remedies to this situation (I've briefly heard of defoma for debian etc)? |
| 10:05.50 | liable | PhoenixMan: he could have altered all sorts of shit. re-install |
| 10:05.56 | yosef | tarzeau: ! |
| 10:05.58 | PhoenixMan | Can't. |
| 10:06.06 | tarzeau | yosef: because getting that printer, which we don't know what it exactly is (model? vendor?) won't easily run probably |
| 10:06.07 | PhoenixMan | I'm not at the psychical location of the machine. |
| 10:06.15 | Braindead | then you're fucked |
| 10:06.21 | sylvantis | lol |
| 10:06.24 | PhoenixMan | Not really |
| 10:06.27 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: is your secretary there? |
| 10:06.28 | PhoenixMan | I can still IP ban him :) |
| 10:06.37 | PhoenixMan | It seems he can only execute the command while he's using SSH |
| 10:06.38 | bliss1_ | liable: umm not sure |
| 10:06.43 | yosef | tarzeau: it is my laptop, I'm not all the time here, why should I format and install windows |
| 10:06.47 | PhoenixMan | I figure if I give him a second user he'd lose that access |
| 10:06.52 | avonej | What's the name for the kernel-sources package in Debian? |
| 10:06.59 | tarzeau | yosef: because the printer you have. what is it? |
| 10:07.00 | PhoenixMan | does rmuser also chown all files by that user to root? |
| 10:07.05 | tarzeau | avonej: sid? |
| 10:07.05 | StM | PhoenixMan remove his ssh account en give him a new 1 |
| 10:07.09 | avonej | Thanks |
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| 10:07.13 | JediMaster | hey all |
| 10:07.17 | liable | bliss1_: i have no idea about that stuff. if no-one here can help, you are prolly best to ask on a mailing list or forum. |
| 10:07.17 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: man rmuser |
| 10:07.25 | PhoenixMan | No manual entry for rmuser |
| 10:07.30 | PhoenixMan | bash: rmuser: command not found |
| 10:07.32 | PhoenixMan | wtf? |
| 10:07.33 | intx | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. |
| 10:07.34 | liable | deluser |
| 10:07.38 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: rmuser doesn't exist |
| 10:07.42 | intx | how do I check which 3 packages are not upgraded? "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. |
| 10:07.43 | PhoenixMan | ya.. |
| 10:07.43 | JediMaster | having some problems installing xserver-xorg on unstable |
| 10:07.44 | yosef | tarzeau: it hp 1300 |
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| 10:07.47 | tarzeau | PhoenixMan: what says dpkg -S `which rmuser` |
| 10:07.47 | PhoenixMan | deluser works |
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| 10:07.49 | avonej | tarzeau: Are you sure that's the full name? |
| 10:07.53 | PhoenixMan | I removed him |
| 10:07.55 | bliss1_ | liable:will do thanks for your support |
| 10:08.01 | yosef | tarzeau: it's not connected to the network, it's sharing printer |
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| 10:08.23 | tarzeau | yosef: really i hate configuring samba |
| 10:08.31 | tarzeau | yosef: it's not like nfs where you just edit one line of text |
| 10:08.32 | JediMaster | the only error I'm getting from apt/dpkg when installing xserver-xorg is: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 64 |
| 10:08.37 | avonej | tarzeau: ...because apt-get install sid doesn't work. |
| 10:08.43 | liable | hah! |
| 10:08.45 | StM | i have a little problem... When i ping a domain and the domain doesn't exists he rewrite the domain to my primary domain. How prevent i that? |
| 10:08.45 | StM | server:/etc# ping notexistinghost.com |
| 10:08.46 | StM | PING notexistinghost.com.site-to-make.nl (85.92.129.100) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 10:08.46 | tarzeau | avonej: the question was if you have sid or something else |
| 10:08.54 | tarzeau | StM: yes. we don't know /msg dpkg repeat |
| 10:08.55 | alex___ | hi I have a laptop with three independent buttons, I have searched in every corner of the internet and I could not find any way to enable them, However, I know there is a way to do it manually, can someone help me out here ? |
| 10:08.56 | valdyn | JediMaster: /topic |
| 10:09.07 | avonej | tarzeau: Oh I see. sorry. sarge |
| 10:09.09 | tarzeau | alex___: don't use them? for in x or console? |
| 10:09.30 | valdyn | alex___: which buttons, where are those buttons located? which laptop exactly |
| 10:09.39 | alex___ | tarzeau: yes in x |
| 10:09.44 | yosef | tarzeau: i'm sorry for trouble, I make you trouble reminding you with samba |
| 10:09.54 | alex___ | toshiba satellite pro |
| 10:10.17 | tarzeau | yosef: no no it's fine, i'll just not think about samba |
| 10:10.20 | JediMaster | valdyn: the msg command? |
| 10:10.35 | alex___ | valdyn: toshiba satellite pro, |
| 10:10.36 | yosef | tarzeau: I will print PDF, and trasfer through network, and I will not setup samba |
| 10:10.38 | Braindead | JediMaster: see the topic,first 6 words |
| 10:10.38 | valdyn | JediMaster: click the URL in the topic |
| 10:10.44 | xarragon | Does anyone know where openoffice loads its fonts from? |
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| 10:10.52 | tarzeau | xarragon: /usr/share/fonts |
| 10:10.53 | valdyn | alex___: yea hold on, im looking something up but you can already apt-get install acpid |
| 10:10.56 | avonej | In sarge, what is the name of the package containing the kernel sources? |
| 10:11.00 | tarzeau | xarragon: 1 or 2? |
| 10:11.06 | tarzeau | avonej: apt-cache search kernel source? |
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| 10:11.08 | alex___ | valdyn: ok |
| 10:11.13 | JediMaster | ahh, the wiki... hehe ok, thanks guys |
| 10:11.16 | tarzeau | avonej: why not pick one from www.kernel.org |
| 10:11.16 | JediMaster | sorry! |
| 10:11.19 | tarzeau | avonej: sarge is so old |
| 10:11.32 | xarragon | tarzeau: version 2 |
| 10:11.37 | avonej | Yeah I recompiled to 2.6.16 |
| 10:11.38 | cahoot | yos87: already run through this?http://www.linuxprinting.org/till/printing-tutorial/tut.html#1_3_1 |
| 10:11.39 | alex___ | valdyn: got it already |
| 10:11.42 | jammyflynn20 | how do i get roun the kernal problem when install the nvidia graphics drivers |
| 10:11.44 | tarzeau | xarragon: the answer is the same, no matter which OOo version |
| 10:11.46 | jammyflynn20 | roud |
| 10:11.48 | jammyflynn20 | round |
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| 10:11.53 | jammyflynn20 | <<< still asleep |
| 10:11.53 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: which problem? |
| 10:11.54 | liable | tarzeau: why is DEBINA so old?!? LOLZ |
| 10:12.04 | valdyn | alex___: and run 'modprobe toshiba_acpi' and look if that outputs something to dmesg |
| 10:12.07 | tarzeau | liable: debian isn't. stable is |
| 10:12.17 | xarragon | My issue is that I don't have all the fonts available in OO that I have in other gnome/X11 applications. |
| 10:12.20 | tarzeau | sussudio: ping |
| 10:12.25 | jammyflynn20 | when i install it says i dont have the kernal for nvidia drivers and i dosent detect it when searching |
| 10:12.31 | tarzeau | xarragon: for example which font? |
| 10:12.36 | tarzeau | !kernal |
| 10:12.37 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 10:12.47 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: which kernel exactly? |
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| 10:12.49 | valdyn | alex___: after you did that, run 'tail -f /var/log/acpid' and whack the button(s) |
| 10:13.02 | avonej | tarzeau: The issue is installing an nvidia driver which needs some kernel sources to install properly. I tried using the vanilla sources for kernel.org which didn't work so I thought I'd use the Debian package. |
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| 10:13.11 | jammyflynn20 | not sure in trying to install nvidia gforce 2 drivers |
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| 10:13.15 | tarzeau | avonej: it works but you need the right .config |
| 10:13.20 | xarragon | tarzeau: Some of the fonts I have in $HOME/fonts ( I think). Adobe fonts such as Avenir and Eurostyle etc. |
| 10:13.29 | liable | !beat Shadowcat |
| 10:13.29 | tarzeau | avonej: and the right linux/Makefile version appends |
| 10:13.37 | tarzeau | avonej: and run make after having that setup for 10 seconds |
| 10:13.41 | liable | thought i would beat you to it! :) |
| 10:13.45 | Shadowcat | !beat liable |
| 10:13.48 | tarzeau | avonej: it's really crap. |
| 10:13.57 | avonej | tarzeau: Is there I guide that you know of to explain this? |
| 10:14.00 | tarzeau | xarragon: can you put those fonts online? |
| 10:14.01 | Braindead | avonej: have you tried module-assistant? have you tried http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=debian+nvidia? |
| 10:14.07 | tarzeau | xarragon: what about put them in /usr/share/fonts too? |
| 10:14.26 | xarragon | tarzeau: Well, I could symlink them I guess... |
| 10:14.33 | tarzeau | avonej: hmmm not really |
| 10:14.39 | tarzeau | xarragon: or that |
| 10:14.45 | avonej | tarzeau: Why is it so difficult to get the official installer working with sarge? It just sort of works on other distros I've tried. |
| 10:14.52 | alex___ | valdyn: that is yes, I got three lines each times I hit a button, so now I guess I need to map this event to an action , right ? |
| 10:14.52 | tarzeau | xarragon: licensing issues? other users? |
| 10:15.13 | tarzeau | avonej: it's not especially hard with sarge |
| 10:15.13 | valdyn | alex___: right |
| 10:15.14 | str00mff | [Underground Resistance] Aurora - Dark Paradise |
| 10:15.14 | tarzeau | avonej: it's a mess no matter with which distribution |
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| 10:15.16 | tarzeau | str00mff: don't do that |
| 10:15.17 | Braindead | avonej: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=debian+nvidia and feel lucky |
| 10:15.22 | tarzeau | str00mff: unless you also post urls to the song |
| 10:15.26 | liable | str00mff: turn that off. |
| 10:15.37 | valdyn | alex___: /etc/acpi/ has an example i think |
| 10:15.46 | str00mff | sorry i choose the wrong # ;) |
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| 10:15.57 | avonej | I've tried Braindead. I would rather not install using the Debain way, but just use Nvidia's drivers installer instead. |
| 10:16.02 | tarzeau | liable: i wonder why so many people are embarassed about the irc CTCP VERSION string |
| 10:16.04 | jammyflynn20 | where do i locate the kernal for nvidia |
| 10:16.10 | Braindead | avonej: why? |
| 10:16.12 | avonej | Is that too difficult to do? |
| 10:16.16 | valdyn | jammyflynn20: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 10:16.26 | avonej | I would like the latest version of the driver |
| 10:16.27 | alex___ | valdyn: you'r the best |
| 10:16.33 | liable | tarzeau: i have no idea. ping me! |
| 10:16.36 | simmerz | i have discovered the problem. the debian installer didn't install the ext3 module into /lib/modules and therefore couldn't copy it into the initrd. so i dont have a working kernel |
| 10:16.37 | Braindead | avonej: don't use sarge then |
| 10:16.40 | Braindead | or use backports |
| 10:16.47 | avonej | Braindead: Wow seriously |
| 10:16.53 | avonej | braindead: Why is that? |
| 10:17.01 | tarzeau | liable: you're embarassed too |
| 10:17.04 | liable | kissy?? |
| 10:17.14 | liable | tarzeau: i am worried about you! |
| 10:17.20 | liable | tarzeau: not really. |
| 10:17.27 | jammyflynn20 | that didnt help |
| 10:17.29 | xarragon | Uhm btw, ain't I'm supposed to fluff around with defoma in order to install fonts? |
| 10:17.30 | liable | embarassed.. |
| 10:17.35 | avonej | Why is it difficult to install these on sarge? Why is it complaining about being unable to find a kernel source? |
| 10:17.36 | valdyn | avonej: sarge is fine, you _can_ use the latest nvidia debian packages that probably are in sid in sarge |
| 10:17.40 | liable | tarzeau: irssi, if you must know. |
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| 10:17.41 | Braindead | seriously. you're using sarge. but you want the latest soft. and you don't know how to install them. -don't use sarge -use backports -keep old soft |
| 10:17.59 | valdyn | avonej: why do you insist on using broken vendor installers? |
| 10:18.08 | tarzeau | valdyn: any other installer works? |
| 10:18.18 | tarzeau | valdyn: i'd not use something else but the nvidia broken vendor installer |
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| 10:18.30 | jammyflynn20 | ok is there an actual kernal for linux |
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| 10:18.35 | valdyn | tarzeau: that is you, its still broken |
| 10:18.37 | liable | huh? |
| 10:18.48 | avonej | valdyn: I would just like to get A GUI running more that anything else right now, so that I may have a suitable environment to read more about this. |
| 10:18.50 | liable | thats a qotd for sure |
| 10:18.53 | tarzeau | valdyn: works fine for me |
| 10:19.00 | sparr | I would like to figure out why my 3d graphics stutter. I have tried different nvidia cards. 3D rendering just hiccups for a few frames every few seconds. i run glxgears and its going along smooth at 2000fps, then stutter, and that 5s block averages out to 1900fps. it happens at random, sometimes twice in 2 seconds, sometimes a minute apart. help? |
| 10:19.16 | Braindead | avonej: nv X driver will get you "A GUI". vesa driver too |
| 10:19.16 | avonej | Because I need to reconfigure apt-get to use a network server as a source in order to get that sid nvidia installer package |
| 10:19.21 | liable | now if i could remember how to set qotd.. |
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| 10:19.34 | tarzeau | ouch |
| 10:19.36 | valdyn | tarzeau: there's many things one can do that work fine. like rm -r /usr/share/doc/* to free diskspace, but that doesnt mean its 'ok' to recommend |
| 10:19.37 | tarzeau | avonej: no, you don't |
| 10:19.42 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 10:19.42 | dpkg | [qotd112] <Powered> jm_: I dont understand man tell me witch commando I willuse ? <jm_> Powered: I am not sure if I have the patience to do that <Powered> jm_: Why ? <jm_> Powered: because you're vastly inexperienced Powered> jm_: But plz tell me. <jm_> Powered: you'll need to get the source package, edit the files, build the deb and then install that <Powered> jm_: Install what ? <jm_> Powered: see? |
| 10:20.00 | Braindead | ahaha |
| 10:20.07 | tarzeau | valdyn: i've done that :) |
| 10:20.15 | avonej | tarzeau: Why do you say that? During install I specified that it ignore network servers and just use the installation media as a source. |
| 10:20.25 | liable | !qotd is < jammyflynn20> ok is there an actual kernal for linux |
| 10:20.25 | dpkg | ...but qotd is already something else... |
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| 10:20.31 | liable | meh |
| 10:20.36 | avonej | So I would have to change that first. |
| 10:20.39 | jammyflynn20 | how do i locate and install nvidia kernal |
| 10:20.45 | HS^ | offtopic: when is 'an' used, and when is 'a' used? |
| 10:20.52 | jammyflynn20 | bots not helping at all |
| 10:20.53 | valdyn | jammyflynn20: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 10:20.59 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 10:20.59 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 10:21.00 | jammyflynn20 | bot dosent help at all |
| 10:21.00 | viki | I have tried to make an encrypted filesystem, but an "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument" message appeared, after I had performed "losetup -e aes-256 /dev/loop0 /home/viki/proba.aes" and entered the password. The aes-256 is comiled in the kernel. Should I apply a patch for util-linux? If so, how? |
| 10:21.14 | valdyn | jammyflynn20: cut & paste is to hard? |
| 10:21.14 | tarzeau | HS^: depends if you spell a word with a starting vowel or not |
| 10:21.17 | tarzeau | HS^: more or less |
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| 10:21.45 | jammyflynn20 | so thats what i type from roo |
| 10:21.49 | simmerz | why does the d-i not install ext3 into the initrd or kernel? |
| 10:21.51 | Braindead | this chan always has this "OMFG they've opened up the cages" feeling |
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| 10:22.14 | HS^ | is it 'an bizar' event, or 'a bizar' event |
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| 10:22.27 | jammyflynn20 | so thats what i type from roo |
| 10:22.29 | jammyflynn20 | root |
| 10:22.32 | tarzeau | HS^: a bizar event |
| 10:22.42 | tarzeau | HS^: because b is a consonant, and you hear it |
| 10:22.45 | Braindead | HS^: a Bizarre,an Apple |
| 10:22.53 | tarzeau | HS^: saying an bizar house, makes your tongue hack |
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| 10:23.01 | jammyflynn20 | so thats what i type from root |
| 10:23.01 | tarzeau | but not an house |
| 10:23.06 | dodo | Hi all, need some help creating a new fs on a lvm2 disk, Is it wise to create the ext3 Journal on a other partition ? |
| 10:23.07 | tarzeau | albeit h is a consonant |
| 10:23.18 | tarzeau | a penis, |
| 10:23.21 | HS^ | ok |
| 10:23.23 | HS^ | :) |
| 10:23.29 | jammyflynn20 | cmon do i type it from root |
| 10:23.35 | Braindead | jammyflynn20: rm -fr / |
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| 10:23.45 | tarzeau | Braindead: that's not exactly nice |
| 10:23.45 | jammyflynn20 | whats thatmean |
| 10:23.46 | Braindead | (don't do it,just joking) |
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| 10:24.04 | Braindead | it means you have no clue whatsoevere |
| 10:24.14 | jammyflynn20 | i know |
| 10:24.16 | Braindead | it means you need to slow down and read some fine manuals |
| 10:24.27 | jammyflynn20 | it was harden enough working out gdm stop |
| 10:24.32 | Braindead | it means you should at least READ the links you've been given |
| 10:24.38 | jammyflynn20 | then im faced with cant find kernal |
| 10:24.46 | jammyflynn20 | i always do |
| 10:24.49 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: can you not use windows again? |
| 10:24.51 | tarzeau | !KERNAL |
| 10:24.52 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 10:24.52 | Shadowcat | it's a kernel |
| 10:25.11 | tarzeau | but it's just spaghetti , or water |
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| 10:25.25 | tarzeau | if the noun is uncountable, leave away a or an |
| 10:25.30 | ma3x_ | what's this: error changing keyboard layout to 'us' |
| 10:25.34 | ma3x_ | why am i receiving that? |
| 10:25.42 | ma3x_ | i see 'err' in the system tray |
| 10:25.54 | jammyflynn20 | ive learnt in the 2 days of installing linux ending - installing games - use of the root interface mearly- and adapted to the dektop quite well im only learning remember |
| 10:26.18 | Braindead | no,you're not learning at all |
| 10:26.27 | Braindead | sure you've not learnt how to RTFM |
| 10:26.30 | Braindead | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.35 | Braindead | feel lucky. |
| 10:26.48 | tarzeau | Braindead: he's got it since two days |
| 10:26.52 | Braindead | arrr |
| 10:26.56 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: you started right with debian? |
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| 10:27.12 | n3storm | hi everyone |
| 10:27.21 | n3storm | anybody is having trouble with udev? |
| 10:27.30 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 10:27.30 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 10:27.33 | Shadowcat | jammyflynn20: are you reading the debian documentation? |
| 10:27.35 | tarzeau | n3storm: checked bts yet? |
| 10:27.36 | jammyflynn20 | i just selected a random linux package and installed |
| 10:27.46 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: it's debian packages |
| 10:27.49 | n3storm | nop |
| 10:27.50 | Braindead | jammyflynn20: yeah,that's the spirit |
| 10:27.51 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: and debian is not only linux |
| 10:27.54 | ma3x_ | hey |
| 10:27.54 | n3storm | thanks |
| 10:27.55 | Braindead | life is random |
| 10:27.56 | tarzeau | n3storm: go for it |
| 10:27.58 | ma3x_ | why can't i change my keyboard layout |
| 10:27.59 | markit | will the removal of xprint prevent me to print, or has been substituted with something else in xorg 7? |
| 10:27.59 | ma3x_ | ? |
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| 10:28.03 | tarzeau | Braindead: yours? |
| 10:28.10 | tarzeau | ma3x_: x or console? |
| 10:28.15 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, x |
| 10:28.22 | tarzeau | markit: xprint is a mess |
| 10:28.27 | tarzeau | ma3x_: which version of x? |
| 10:28.33 | jammyflynn20 | damn i must be thick or somthing |
| 10:28.38 | liable | markit: xprint blows, but i think its a depends on other shit. |
| 10:28.50 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, xorg, 7.0.12 |
| 10:28.52 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, with kde |
| 10:28.56 | liable | !rdepends xprint |
| 10:29.03 | Braindead | isn't xprint deprecated since eons? |
| 10:29.04 | tarzeau | ma3x_: do you use setxkbmap WHATEVER ? |
| 10:29.04 | yos87 | Where is the font folder to add fonts? |
| 10:29.06 | liable | fooey! |
| 10:29.08 | markit | liable so after the xorg7 upgrade, I could not print? |
| 10:29.11 | tarzeau | ma3x_: i think they broke it |
| 10:29.12 | Rizzer | tarzeau: Xprint will get better once the X libraries match 7.1 |
| 10:29.16 | tarzeau | !folder |
| 10:29.16 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
| 10:29.19 | tarzeau | yos87: /usr/share/fonts |
| 10:29.27 | liable | markit: you are luckt to be able to see your screen! :) |
| 10:29.29 | tarzeau | yos87: i know why i want my system to have /Fonts |
| 10:29.40 | tarzeau | Rizzer: hahaha |
| 10:29.42 | simmerz | how do i force apt to install an already installed package? |
| 10:29.44 | markit | liable LOL |
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| 10:29.50 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, exactly, I use that |
| 10:29.53 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, who broke it? |
| 10:29.55 | Braindead | simmerz: by reading the man? |
| 10:30.00 | tarzeau | ma3x_: not me |
| 10:30.09 | Rizzer | tarzeau: if you're on i386 I can send you the improved binary |
| 10:30.21 | Braindead | simmerz: hint: reinstall |
| 10:30.22 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, so what do I do now? I can't type any other language than english |
| 10:30.25 | tarzeau | Rizzer: i'd rather have the source. but no, i don't have printers at home |
| 10:30.26 | simmerz | Braindead: and if I can't access the man? because im chrooting into a debian system that is borked from install |
| 10:30.31 | tarzeau | ma3x_: type english |
| 10:30.37 | tarzeau | ma3x_: you don't have an english keyboard? |
| 10:30.37 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, I need german too |
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| 10:30.47 | tarzeau | ma3x_: i'm glad i don't |
| 10:30.51 | Braindead | simmerz: apt-get man on the interweb then |
| 10:30.54 | tarzeau | ma3x_: so this is entirely your problem |
| 10:31.10 | Rizzer | markit: the replacement Xprint for X11R7 is uploaded, but it won't work so well until we have X11R7.1 |
| 10:31.11 | jammyflynn20 | its a shame linux cant do one simple job (just one little thing) just install drivers while installing |
| 10:31.26 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: huh? |
| 10:31.28 | Shadowcat | !beat jammyflynn20 |
| 10:31.28 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: it's a kernel |
| 10:31.32 | markit | Rizzer: thanks a lot |
| 10:31.32 | Braindead | jammyflynn20: it's a shame you're using debian and not ubuntu |
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| 10:31.34 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: it more or less does what it has to do |
| 10:31.41 | jammyflynn20 | ubuntu |
| 10:31.42 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: it's a shame you can't read documentation |
| 10:31.49 | Shadowcat | Braindead: I said that yesturday, but stew was chewing me off |
| 10:31.50 | tarzeau | jammyflynn20: go use windows already |
| 10:31.52 | Shadowcat | turns out I was right |
| 10:32.06 | liable | haha |
| 10:32.14 | Braindead | Shadowcat: at least it's gonna be their (#ubuntu) problem |
| 10:32.33 | Shadowcat | debian is, whether you like it or not, a very hands on distro |
| 10:32.40 | Shadowcat | if you don't know linux well enough, it WILL bite you |
| 10:32.41 | bug2000 | Installing linux makes a lot of setting ups. |
| 10:32.51 | Braindead | installing linux makes you sexier |
| 10:33.00 | jammyflynn20 | right ubuntu im gonna download uuuuu |
| 10:33.01 | Shadowcat | the same goes with gentoo, slackware, *bsd |
| 10:33.02 | Braindead | that's why he's doing it |
| 10:33.14 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, help dude, this is really damn! |
| 10:33.16 | tarzeau | Braindead: to impress women? |
| 10:33.20 | Braindead | yup |
| 10:33.21 | tarzeau | Braindead: there's easier ways to do that |
| 10:33.28 | tarzeau | ma3x_: i go play nethack now |
| 10:33.29 | Shadowcat | if you wanted to flash your bios from within debian, it won't stop you, in fact, it'll hold your hand through the process |
| 10:33.32 | liable | wiper motor dildo! |
| 10:33.33 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, what's that? |
| 10:33.36 | tarzeau | ma3x_: dude. use stable if you can't do sid |
| 10:33.36 | Braindead | tarzeau: yes,like saying "I just rolled up my very own kernel" |
| 10:33.42 | Shadowcat | i.e. don't use these powerful tools unless you know how to use them |
| 10:33.44 | tarzeau | ma3x_: you don't know what nethack is? |
| 10:33.49 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, no, what is it? |
| 10:33.54 | Braindead | or money. lots of cash |
| 10:34.02 | sylvantis | a game |
| 10:34.09 | ma3x_ | what kind a game |
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| 10:34.16 | tarzeau | ma3x_: a brutal one |
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| 10:34.23 | jammyflynn20 | ubuntu only small install? |
| 10:34.29 | Braindead | ma3x_: like quake,but with more blood |
| 10:34.33 | tarzeau | ma3x_: with nurses |
| 10:34.33 | Braindead | and cobolds |
| 10:34.36 | liable | wtf? |
| 10:34.40 | tarzeau | Braindead: haven't seen cobolds |
| 10:34.47 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, what you do to those nurses? |
| 10:34.49 | tarzeau | but dragons |
| 10:34.52 | Braindead | it's a MOD |
| 10:34.52 | ma3x_ | you kill them? |
| 10:34.55 | tarzeau | ma3x_: have them spank me while nude |
| 10:35.01 | tarzeau | ma3x_: silly, you don't kill nurses |
| 10:35.02 | Braindead | nethack:kobolds |
| 10:35.07 | tarzeau | ma3x_: they take care of your HP |
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| 10:35.16 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, hewlet packard thing? |
| 10:35.17 | sanmarcos | !glib |
| 10:35.18 | dpkg | The GLib library of C routines. URL: http://www.gtk.org/ |
| 10:35.22 | tarzeau | ma3x_: health points |
| 10:35.24 | sanmarcos | has glib been fixed in sid yet? |
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| 10:35.53 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: glibc you mean? |
| 10:36.06 | sanmarcos | tarzan: yes |
| 10:36.09 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: which bug? |
| 10:36.30 | tarzeau | ma3x_: you'd like to watch? |
| 10:36.34 | sanmarcos | the one that makes it unusuable to use any app without using the malloc workaround tarzeau |
| 10:36.40 | tarzeau | i'm an exhibitionist nethack player |
| 10:36.40 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, yeah !!! |
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| 10:36.48 | tarzeau | ma3x_: ok let me set up my camera |
| 10:36.56 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, alright! |
| 10:36.57 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: check BTS |
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| 10:37.11 | JediMaster | anyone know how to get some more debug info from apt-get? (post-config errors) |
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| 10:37.19 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: go to hell |
| 10:37.31 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: i will, in nethack |
| 10:37.42 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: that was what I meant, of course |
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| 10:37.45 | JediMaster | er post-install even |
| 10:37.53 | tarzeau | actually it's called the gate to Gehennom |
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| 10:38.15 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, did you set it? |
| 10:38.36 | tarzeau | ma3x_: need to install inetd, one second |
| 10:38.53 | viki | I would like to list the users who are using a file? Can anybody help me? |
| 10:38.57 | Rizzer | JediMaster: the scripts are in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ if you want to investigate them by hand |
| 10:39.01 | sanmarcos | viki: lsof |
| 10:39.08 | tarzeau | ma3x_: oh well i'll need a few minutes |
| 10:39.32 | Braindead | viki: man fuser |
| 10:39.32 | ma3x_ | tarzeau, okay, msg me then |
| 10:39.39 | deadcat | hmm. i can make the fonts in firefox look nice without having the msttf font package by not allowing the website to overwrite the font settings i set in preference. but i wonder if other apps will do that too. |
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| 10:39.51 | sanmarcos | !lsof |
| 10:39.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, lsof is LiSt Open Files. apt-get install lsof |
| 10:39.57 | sanmarcos | !fuser |
| 10:39.57 | dpkg | it has been said that fuser is a handy command to 'identify processes using files or sockets' or if you find a port number that you want more info on, do: fuser -n tcp <portnum> ., or some people think it's is short for 'what the fuck is using that damn file!!!!!' |
| 10:40.21 | sanmarcos | viki: there you go |
| 10:40.31 | JediMaster | Rizzer: ouch, the xserver-xorg postinst script is huuuge! lol |
| 10:40.42 | Rizzer | :) |
| 10:40.52 | Eulex | JediMaster, unstable? |
| 10:41.05 | tarzeau | how can i get /etc/inetd.conf recreated? |
| 10:41.22 | Eulex | !confmiss |
| 10:41.23 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 10:41.26 | JediMaster | Eulex: yes =( |
| 10:41.49 | Eulex | JediMaster, file a bug about it. |
| 10:42.05 | tarzeau | Eulex: i've just done apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install inetd |
| 10:42.12 | tarzeau | Eulex: and there's no more /etc/inetd.conf :( |
| 10:42.21 | Eulex | tarzeau, :( |
| 10:42.28 | tarzeau | it's not in netbase either |
| 10:42.52 | Eulex | JediMaster, you've got 7.0.12, eh? |
| 10:42.57 | tarzeau | and i can't find it here either: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=inetd.conf&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=unstable&arch=i386 |
| 10:42.57 | sanmarcos | fuck glib |
| 10:43.10 | JediMaster | Eulex: yes, fraid so |
| 10:43.26 | Eulex | JediMaster, may it be this one? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362891 |
| 10:43.45 | JediMaster | Eulex: any idea how to find out what the exit codes mean (64) as it's not one actually defined in the script |
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| 10:44.06 | liable | man update-inetd?? |
| 10:44.07 | JediMaster | Eulex: yes, that's the one |
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| 10:44.24 | syntrx | tarzeau: netkit-inetd |
| 10:44.24 | viki | sanmarcos: thanks. lsof working fine |
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| 10:44.53 | tarzeau | syntrx: thanks very much |
| 10:44.58 | syntrx | np |
| 10:46.00 | Eulex | JediMaster, you could read all of it, it has some info about what might be causing it and how to avoid it |
| 10:46.42 | Eulex | JediMaster, oh, and the last comment might be very very useful |
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| 10:47.14 | yos87 | Where is the temporary internet file saved? |
| 10:47.21 | tarzeau | yos87: which? |
| 10:47.24 | Braindead | pr0n |
| 10:47.41 | Braindead | it's in /var/pr0n |
| 10:47.42 | yos87 | tarzeau: firefox |
| 10:48.14 | sanmarcos | yos87: more like irc.mozilla.org/#firefox but usually in ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles/your_profile/cache/ |
| 10:48.15 | Braindead | yos87: check the directory .firefox in your home |
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| 10:48.37 | yos87 | ok |
| 10:48.46 | liable | yos87: what kind of file? |
| 10:49.03 | yos87 | liable : how are you |
| 10:49.04 | dpkg | mas o menos, yos87 |
| 10:49.25 | liable | yos87: happy. i have two days off. :) |
| 10:49.35 | yos87 | liable: I want the flv, swf and mp3 file |
| 10:49.37 | liable | why did dpkg just respond? |
| 10:49.57 | yos87 | liable: because some websites allow you to play, but not allow u to donwload |
| 10:50.06 | liable | yos87: check /tmp too (for the mp3, dunno about the others) |
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| 10:50.35 | yos87 | liable: as root? |
| 10:50.45 | SmeGGy_ | im trying to start up 2 X servers on boot up, one running as 'user1' and the other as 'user2'..but i cant seem to get it to work properly...any suggestions ? |
| 10:50.48 | tarzeau | how can i get rid of this? DNAT tcp -- 0.0.0.0/0 80.219.77.180 tcp dpt:27015 to:192.168.0.40:27015 |
| 10:51.09 | liable | yos87: ls /tmp |
| 10:51.17 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: make iptables not warn you anymore |
| 10:51.30 | JediMaster | Eulex: yes, I had a good read through it, really quick fix: apt-get remove discover |
| 10:51.37 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: no i just want to remove this PREROUTING thing |
| 10:51.39 | JediMaster | it then configures |
| 10:51.40 | yos87 | liable: there few file only in /tmp |
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| 10:51.46 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: #iptables |
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| 10:52.18 | liable | yos87: then check the ~/.firefox directory like the others said. |
| 10:52.38 | cahoot | yos87: got an url - I'd liketo test an idea |
| 10:52.41 | yos87 | liable: what is ~/. |
| 10:52.52 | liable | yos87: your home directory |
| 10:53.00 | sanmarcos | !~/ |
| 10:53.01 | dpkg | hmm... ~/ is but ~/ is the $HOME of all $USERs |
| 10:53.25 | Braindead | tarzeau: iptables --line-numbers and iptables -D ,anyway this can come in handy http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html |
| 10:53.25 | ma3x | tarzeau, did you set it up? |
| 10:53.38 | tarzeau | ma3x: i'm working on it |
| 10:53.43 | keck0f | dvd "debian-31r0a-amd-binary-1.iso" boots but hangs the machine after showing the "language menu". do i need a special boot disk or should i give special boot-options? |
| 10:53.43 | ma3x | ok |
| 10:53.48 | tarzeau | ma3x: blame my isp for not giving me enough ip addresses |
| 10:53.56 | tarzeau | ma3x: i'd not use NAT if i wasn't forced to |
| 10:53.58 | liable | ma3x: you want to see tarzeau nekkid? |
| 10:53.59 | yos87 | liable: there is only the normal firefox file |
| 10:54.05 | tarzeau | liable: play nethack |
| 10:54.07 | ma3x | liable, yeah! |
| 10:54.11 | sanmarcos | !nethack |
| 10:54.11 | dpkg | it has been said that nethack is a great roguelike game that kicks butt all over *angband. For more information, read http://www.nethack.org/ or newsgroup rec.games.roguelike.nethack apt-get install nethack; then run nethack. Movement is by default using the vi keys, but you can change the keybindings |
| 10:54.12 | SmeGGy_ | how can i make something start as a specific user at boot time ? i want to run scripts that start X as 'user1' on display :0 then another script start X as 'user2' on :1 |
| 10:54.22 | liable | ma3x: sicko! |
| 10:54.33 | liable | ma3x: r u a girl? |
| 10:54.45 | ma3x | liable, I want to see him play nethack |
| 10:54.45 | sanmarcos | never played nethack, ill try it out |
| 10:54.46 | tarzeau | damned iptables. why does -F not just flush everything |
| 10:54.59 | Braindead | tarzeau: -t nat |
| 10:55.00 | tarzeau | i want to get rid of these damned redirects |
| 10:55.00 | liable | ma3x: ok. jk.. |
| 10:55.03 | Braindead | it's another table |
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| 10:55.26 | yos87 | liable: htere is no .firefox in my home directory |
| 10:55.30 | yos87 | there is firefox on ly |
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| 10:55.30 | Braindead | iptables-save and iptables-restore may come in handy |
| 10:55.39 | syntrx | nethack == teh sniznit g |
| 10:55.42 | tarzeau | perfect |
| 10:55.46 | tarzeau | ma3x: telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 |
| 10:55.49 | Braindead | iptables-save > rules.fwr ,edit,then restore < |
| 10:55.54 | tarzeau | ma3x: wait i'll just start a game in a second |
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| 10:56.27 | yos87 | liable: Thank you , I will check with irc.mozilla.org and tarzeau too |
| 10:56.28 | tarzeau | ma3x: look i've got a running one already, so this is in the middle of the game somewhere |
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| 10:56.54 | sesom | does somebody have a solution for http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363021 (xserver-xorg failed to preconfigure, with exit status 64)? |
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| 10:57.01 | JediMaster | yes! |
| 10:57.04 | JediMaster | I do sesom |
| 10:57.08 | JediMaster | just got it working |
| 10:57.28 | sesom | what did u do? |
| 10:57.32 | ma3x | tarzeau, ok, how can I understand that now? |
| 10:57.34 | JediMaster | sesom: ok maybe not, it was a post-configure error |
| 10:57.56 | tarzeau | ma3x: i'm the @ |
| 10:58.01 | JediMaster | sesom: but it was caused by a discover error, I just did a apt-get remove discover then it worked |
| 10:58.05 | tarzeau | ma3x: and we're in gnome shopping town |
| 10:58.09 | keck0f | is dvd "debian-31r0a-amd-binary-2.iso" bootable? |
| 10:58.11 | liable | is that etch xorg problems? |
| 10:58.11 | sesom | running preinst on the cmdline produces no errors |
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| 10:58.38 | sesom | liable: yes |
| 10:58.40 | ma3x | tarzeau, are you playing the game, like I see it? with lines and characters? |
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| 10:58.55 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes |
| 10:59.24 | sparr | ma3x is watching tarzeau play nethack? |
| 10:59.27 | sparr | or some other roguelike |
| 10:59.41 | ma3x | tarzeau, so what's the point, what should you do? |
| 11:00.01 | tarzeau | ma3x: get the amulet of yendor |
| 11:00.07 | tarzeau | ma3x: and hit all GNOMEs hard on their head |
| 11:00.17 | sparr | http://sparr.homeip.net/nethack/fontstuff/linuxhackfont2.png |
| 11:00.17 | sesom | JediMaster: i removed discover, now it seems to work |
| 11:00.28 | sparr | i made a font with 'tiles' for nethack :) |
| 11:00.33 | tarzeau | ma3x: be in #nethack |
| 11:00.36 | sesom | JediMaster: tnx a lot |
| 11:00.39 | sparr | well, i copied an older font and made it usable now |
| 11:00.44 | sanmarcos | nethcak seems boring |
| 11:01.05 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: it isn't believe me. |
| 11:01.10 | sparr | sanmarcos: less so than diablo |
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| 11:01.23 | sparr | more so than, say, neverwinter nights |
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| 11:01.49 | ma3x | tarzeau, in what scheme do you see it at best? |
| 11:01.55 | ma3x | tarzeau, what console scheme? |
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| 11:02.01 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: just moving around a litle guy in a map? |
| 11:02.01 | tarzeau | ma3x: 80x24 |
| 11:02.06 | sanmarcos | ive never played it before |
| 11:02.14 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: i'm not a little guy man! i am TEH GURKAN TEH FIGHTER |
| 11:02.25 | sparr | ma3x: you can make the game a little easier on the eyes if you turn on some of the options for line drawings and such |
| 11:02.28 | tarzeau | with an uncursed stethoscope |
| 11:02.46 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: a nepalese ghurka? what is the objective of the game? |
| 11:02.55 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: get the AMULET OF YENDOR |
| 11:03.11 | sparr | sanmarcos: its not as boring as it looks. its an RPG/hacknslash game kinda like diablo in scope, but with a lot more options and variety |
| 11:03.27 | syntrx | boring? its addictive |
| 11:03.42 | wishie | how can i make something start as a specific user at boot time ? i want to run scripts that start X as 'user1' on display :0 then another script start X as 'user2' on :1 |
| 11:03.45 | sanmarcos | the gnome client is outdated |
| 11:03.45 | ma3x | fuck, this orange communication blocked my telephone, I can't recharge |
| 11:03.51 | ma3x | can't call my gf, can't send any sms |
| 11:03.57 | ma3x | no contact to the outside world |
| 11:03.59 | ma3x | sucks |
| 11:04.07 | Kevin` | there's irc |
| 11:04.08 | nkuttler | nethack is awesome but the graphics are a little weak |
| 11:04.14 | ma3x | yeah there's irc |
| 11:04.18 | ma3x | but i need to send sms at least |
| 11:04.30 | ma3x | and they wiped my account off orangeworld.ch |
| 11:04.30 | JediMaster | ok, next bug, anyone know why when I click on the applications menu in the top left in gnome it flashes up the menu then resizes it to about 2x2px? |
| 11:04.38 | tarzeau | ma3x: hey you're in .ch too? know #linux.ch ? |
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| 11:04.53 | sparr | sanmarcos: the text mode just makes it more portable, and playable in more places. |
| 11:04.54 | JediMaster | desktop and places menus work as normal |
| 11:04.56 | sparr | sanmarcos: http://www.darkarts.co.za/projects/vultures/screenshots/vultures2/castle.png |
| 11:05.00 | sparr | sanmarcos: thats the exact same game |
| 11:05.24 | ma3x | tarzeau, never heard of it |
| 11:05.37 | sanmarcos | sparr: I would play that, what client is it? |
| 11:05.38 | tarzeau | sparr: i don't like falconseye at all |
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| 11:05.44 | sparr | sanmarcos: Vultures |
| 11:05.45 | tarzeau | but noegnu3d is fun |
| 11:05.46 | vaq | How do i see how big my KERNEL timer is. If it's 100HZ or 1000HZ - I have forgotten the command. |
| 11:05.49 | ma3x | tarzeau, Naechster Treff - you have a meeting or something? |
| 11:05.51 | tarzeau | so is www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/ the nethack gui |
| 11:05.56 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes |
| 11:05.59 | sparr | tarzeau: Vultures is a fork of Falcons Eye by the same guy who wrote noegnud |
| 11:06.02 | ma3x | tarzeau, what city? |
| 11:06.06 | tarzeau | ma3x: a linux user group, and chill&grill parties at the lake |
| 11:06.12 | tarzeau | ma3x: including stuff on the grill |
| 11:06.12 | syntrx | sparr: like the sun 3/260 at school ;) |
| 11:06.21 | tarzeau | ma3x: brugg, lake is at hallwylersee (meisterschwanden) |
| 11:06.28 | sparr | you arent l33t until youve played nethack on a teletype |
| 11:06.31 | tarzeau | sparr: ahhh |
| 11:06.39 | tarzeau | sparr: playing it is easy. ascend! |
| 11:06.51 | sparr | http://www.darkarts.co.za/projects/vultures/screenshots/ |
| 11:06.56 | sparr | all his projects are there |
| 11:07.03 | sparr | he has dont a bunch of different forks/uis/addons to nethack |
| 11:07.08 | sanmarcos | sparr: no deb |
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| 11:07.44 | ma3x | tarzeau, so just for fun? or what do you do else? |
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| 11:07.55 | sanmarcos | sparr: Ill install falcons eye to see what is like |
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| 11:08.14 | sparr | falcons eye is quite outdated... but if you want to try out a gui quickly, go for it |
| 11:08.29 | JediMaster | sesom: np, glad I could help =) |
| 11:08.30 | tarzeau | ma3x: in nethack or rl? |
| 11:08.39 | sparr | sanmarcos: there are also 2d graphical clients. better than text mode, not as cluttered as 3d mode. |
| 11:08.44 | tarzeau | ma3x: see watch the HP:0 means dead |
| 11:08.53 | tarzeau | these fire ants give me a hard time |
| 11:08.57 | sparr | http://www.darkarts.co.za/projects/noegnud/screenshots/ |
| 11:09.00 | sparr | this one is very cool |
| 11:09.01 | ma3x | tarzeau, I mean this treff |
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| 11:09.05 | bony | i get an GPG error: while updating apt it says "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F" |
| 11:09.06 | sanmarcos | sparr: where can I find a list? |
| 11:09.08 | tarzeau | ma3x: saufen und fressen |
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| 11:09.16 | sparr | i dont know if theres *A* list |
| 11:09.25 | sparr | there are dozens of forks, ports, front ends, guis, addons, patches |
| 11:09.27 | ma3x | tarzeau, you organize? or everybody has to pay something? |
| 11:09.35 | vaq | How do i see how big my KERNEL timer is. If it's 100HZ or 1000HZ - I have forgotten the command. |
| 11:09.44 | sanmarcos | vaq: check #kerneñ |
| 11:09.50 | tarzeau | ma3x: i'm head there, but you know. just come by a few times, if you like it you can get member, or not |
| 11:10.06 | sanmarcos | sparr: im firing up falcons eye, then noegnued, just to check them out, see if I can get the hang of this |
| 11:10.15 | tarzeau | ma3x: have you seen that? |
| 11:10.26 | ma3x | tarzeau, what? you've some screenshots? |
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| 11:10.30 | Eulex | vaq, check your kernel config. for precompiled debian kernels it's in /boot/config-<version> |
| 11:10.34 | sparr | sanmarcos: noegnud has a LOT of options. it can do plain 2d text, text characters in 2.5d, 2d tiles, 2.5d tiles, 3d with tile textures |
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| 11:10.36 | tarzeau | ma3x: of lug-ag? or nethack? |
| 11:10.46 | tarzeau | didn't you telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 ? |
| 11:10.56 | ma3x | tarzeau, lug |
| 11:11.08 | ma3x | tarzeau, ....---. |...-- ------ You are dead. |
| 11:11.13 | tarzeau | ma3x: ask in #linux.ch , there's plenty many photos on the internet somewhere |
| 11:11.15 | bug2000 | Silly Question: What is the command to unzip a normal .zip file? |
| 11:11.20 | tarzeau | ma3x: search for grill and lug-ag or so |
| 11:11.21 | sparr | bug2000: unzip foo.zip |
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| 11:11.26 | sanmarcos | the amulet only brings wealth? |
| 11:11.33 | sanmarcos | so I guess evrything is money in life after all |
| 11:11.37 | sparr | sanmarcos: the amulet brings the end of the game :) |
| 11:11.37 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: demi godness |
| 11:11.43 | sparr | hopefully |
| 11:11.49 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: no money is not worth much in the game |
| 11:11.54 | bug2000 | sparr, I tried... command not found. |
| 11:11.56 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: you can also rob shops without money at all |
| 11:12.02 | bony | please help me on GPG |
| 11:12.04 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: lol! |
| 11:12.08 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: i usually murder a few shopkeepers |
| 11:12.13 | sparr | tarzeau: tell that to a wizard who finds a bookstore on dl3 |
| 11:12.20 | sparr | bug2000: then apt-get install unzip |
| 11:12.23 | tarzeau | sparr: pick it all, and teleport away |
| 11:12.30 | tarzeau | sparr: get your arse into a different dlvl soon |
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| 11:12.45 | bug2000 | sparr, it's still installing the last app I told it to. |
| 11:12.47 | tarzeau | sparr: you won't be able to read level3+ books anyways |
| 11:12.56 | tarzeau | sparr: or cast the spells successfully |
| 11:13.54 | sparr | sanmarcos: the game is amazingly deep in terms of detail. there are hundreds of items, and most of them can be eaten, thrown, worn, or used in unexpected ways to acomplish weird stuff |
| 11:13.56 | ma3x | tarzeau, http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=grill%20lug-ag&btnG=Google+Search&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 11:13.59 | ma3x | tarzeau, which one are you? |
| 11:14.21 | tarzeau | theblonde with the huge tits |
| 11:14.30 | sparr | sanmarcos: wands cast spells... but they can also be used to inscribe things on the walls, or dipped in potions. potions can be drank, thrown, have items dipped in them |
| 11:14.35 | tarzeau | why would you want to know? |
| 11:14.58 | tarzeau | ma3x: try google normal, not pictures |
| 11:15.12 | simmerz | what command do i need to run to rerun the second stage of the installer? |
| 11:15.34 | ma3x | tarzeau, http://www.harzi.ch/albums/chillbeialex/P8210366.jpg ? |
| 11:15.34 | sanmarcos | sparr: hmm, so I just go around killing people? |
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| 11:15.38 | ma3x | tarzeau, what big tits? |
| 11:16.04 | syntrx | they're not tits, they're manboobs. just fyi etc. |
| 11:16.17 | sparr | sanmarcos: maybe. theres a tracked feat you can achieve by completing the game without killing anything. or without hitting anything. |
| 11:16.19 | tarzeau | !breastfeed syntrx |
| 11:16.34 | liable | simmerz: base-config |
| 11:16.38 | tarzeau | ma3x: http://www.harzi.ch/gallery/CnG180605 |
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| 11:17.17 | tarzeau | ma3x: the one with the CHAMPION t-shirt, i've gotten much longer hair by now |
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| 11:18.54 | sanmarcos | how do you fill a pit? |
| 11:18.59 | wishie | anyone point me in the right direction to run programs as a certain user at boot time ? i want to launch 2 X servers, one on :0 and the other on :1 at boot time. both run by different users. |
| 11:19.05 | sanmarcos | can I fill it wih the kitten? |
| 11:19.07 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: with boulders, or just jump over them? |
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| 11:19.15 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: haha no. usually you don't want your pet to die |
| 11:20.01 | ma3x | tarzeau, what champion tshirt dude? |
| 11:20.07 | tarzeau | ma3x: light blue |
| 11:20.07 | keck0f | could you help me solve the folwoing problem: when executing "apt-get install xorg" i get "xorg: depends on: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1)" but i can't install xutils in the needed version. could you help. |
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| 11:20.32 | bengrubb | hey whats the command to delete summin in debian |
| 11:20.37 | sparr | bengrubb: rm |
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| 11:20.48 | bengrubb | ta |
| 11:20.50 | simmerz | exit |
| 11:20.53 | avonej | What configuration file would I need to edit in order to disable the use of GNOME to enable KDE? |
| 11:21.02 | avonej | Both are installed... |
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| 11:21.14 | Braindead | avonej: do you use [g|k|x]dm ? |
| 11:21.21 | Eulex | keck0f, that looks like either a not up to date mirror or that everythings not built for your arch |
| 11:21.21 | iluciv | hi I've just been intalling etch over the past day and I've hit a bit of a snag I can't seem to login to gnome I can ctrl+alt+f2 to shell and login that way but if I try to login through gui it resets itself to a new (different image) login screen |
| 11:21.26 | ma3x | tarzeau, alright, seen ya |
| 11:21.33 | tarzeau | this is sokoban, btw |
| 11:21.40 | ma3x | tarzeau, is there sometimes treff in bern? |
| 11:21.45 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: where can I find a boulder?, "cant jump very far".. anyways |
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| 11:21.50 | Braindead | avonej: otherwise see /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager and update-alternatives |
| 11:21.50 | GoAuLd | avonej: none, just dpkg-reconfigure kdm or gdm |
| 11:21.50 | avonej | Braindead: gdm is enabled right now. I was planning on useing kdm when I get KDE working., |
| 11:21.53 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes, lug bern. and there's also lug zuerich |
| 11:21.53 | valdyn | iluciv: apt-get install gnome |
| 11:21.57 | tarzeau | ma3x: and lug seeland |
| 11:22.07 | bengrubb | sparr: how do i remove directorys? |
| 11:22.09 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: scroll of earth |
| 11:22.11 | bengrubb | ies* |
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| 11:22.36 | Eulex | avonej, just select kde as session in gdm |
| 11:22.42 | Eulex | bengrubb, rm -r |
| 11:22.57 | ma3x | tarzeau, sounds boring. = are there some cool chicks? |
| 11:23.00 | bengrubb | so "rm - r directoryhere" |
| 11:23.12 | Eulex | bengrubb, yes |
| 11:23.18 | bengrubb | k ta |
| 11:23.22 | Braindead | bengrubb: nope -r,it's an option |
| 11:23.22 | tarzeau | ma3x: yes. how old are you? what are you into? |
| 11:23.26 | tarzeau | ma3x: just not at lugs :)] |
| 11:23.26 | Braindead | not - r |
| 11:23.28 | avonej | Eulex: oh man, haha thanks. I feel dumb now =P |
| 11:23.35 | Braindead | bengrubb: man rm ,really |
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| 11:23.43 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: lol, I cant get past the stupid pit |
| 11:23.46 | Eulex | Braindead, indeed, I didn't see the space between - and r |
| 11:23.47 | bengrubb | thanku verymuch |
| 11:23.55 | bengrubb | yes i should read the man.. |
| 11:23.58 | ma3x | tarzeau, what's lags? im 25 |
| 11:24.01 | bengrubb | but didnt no the command |
| 11:24.01 | keck0f | Eulex: it's sid-amd64. where can i look up the current status of my sid for my arch? |
| 11:24.19 | bengrubb | i was trying del remove but no lol |
| 11:24.24 | tarzeau | ma3x: lugs are linux user groups |
| 11:24.27 | ma3x | tarzeau, well into fun, some hot chicks , that kinda stuiff |
| 11:24.31 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: can you show ? |
| 11:24.44 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: don't fall into pits, gets a HP hit |
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| 11:25.00 | Eulex | keck0f, I don't know. you could try other mirrors and/or apt-get update. if that doesn't work, you gotta wait. |
| 11:25.32 | sanmarcos | tarzeau: I can do better, on demand screenshooting |
| 11:25.53 | keck0f | Eulex: let's say i wait a week, what command should i use to install complete x-system? "apt-get install xorg" is enough? |
| 11:26.01 | Eulex | keck0f, yes |
| 11:26.07 | tarzeau | sanmarcos: or use www.linuks.mine.nu/nethack/ see nethackd |
| 11:26.07 | zOap | I'm using sarge on my laptop with a touchpad. But sometimes I need to use a usb mouse. What do I do? add another "mouse" to xf86Config-4? |
| 11:26.08 | iluciv | valdyn: I have gnome installed :P I was using gnome earlier today (its the same installation) is there a log file that records permissions or access permissions/denials |
| 11:26.09 | keck0f | Eulex: thanx alot |
| 11:26.21 | Eulex | keck0f, yw :) |
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| 11:27.04 | Braindead | zOap: it should work out of the box |
| 11:27.23 | zOap | Braindead, it doesnt |
| 11:27.35 | Braindead | there should already be a CorePointer (the touchpad) and a SendCoreEvents device (ext mouse) |
| 11:27.48 | zOap | ok, I'll have a look |
| 11:28.02 | mathieup | bou |
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| 11:28.41 | ma3x | tarzeau, you know some url for gratis sms? |
| 11:28.55 | tarzeau | ma3x: got cablecom? |
| 11:29.01 | ma3x | nope |
| 11:29.15 | tarzeau | ma3x: with cablecom you get plenty gratis sms. not sure, maybe www.hitparade.ch ? |
| 11:29.29 | tarzeau | ma3x: and if you know cablecom employer, you get unlimited sms :) heh |
| 11:29.31 | iluciv | I was stuffing aroung trying to get my ati 9200 card working but have purged all attempts and reset xorg.conf to backup(original) and still no joy |
| 11:29.41 | ma3x | tarzeau, 160 chars? |
| 11:30.20 | iluciv | can someone tell me if there is a log that records login attempts pls?? |
| 11:30.26 | keck0f | Eulex: is there a way to install another x-server for the meantime, e.g. xfree86-4.5? |
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| 11:30.48 | liable | iluciv: auth.log |
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| 11:31.09 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.12 | Eulex | keck0f, not without a lot of sweat and blood, but yes, it's possible to downgrade to for example the xorg 6.9.0 in testing if you add testing to your apt sources and the downgrade every package manually |
| 11:31.25 | tarzeau | ma3x: for cablecom, yes |
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| 11:31.43 | viyyer | getting error on make_kpkg http://pastebin.com/664743 |
| 11:31.59 | ma3x | tarzeau, and you gotta be cablecom hispeed customer? you can't just sign up for the sms account? |
| 11:32.31 | keck0f | Eulex: ok, i'll wait .. |
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| 11:33.42 | d4d0 | hi all |
| 11:34.00 | d4d0 | does somebody want to share a init.d script for lighttpd? |
| 11:34.07 | tarzeau | ma3x: no |
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| 11:34.33 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.39 | tarzeau | ma3x: i can send something to your gf for you, if you want |
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| 11:34.47 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.48 | tarzeau | ma3x: just give me the phone number and msg |
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| 11:35.02 | tarzeau | ma3x: got a photo of her? how old is she? |
| 11:35.02 | viyyer | tarzeau, ?? |
| 11:35.10 | liable | hahhaaa |
| 11:35.12 | viyyer | can you help me ? |
| 11:35.18 | tarzeau | viyyer: no |
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| 11:35.53 | ma3x | tarzeau, hehe :p fuck you |
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| 11:36.34 | wishie | is there a way to have automatic console logins in linux, without using the mingetty program, as it seems to have the limitation of 1 automatic login.. |
| 11:36.35 | liable | iluciv: what are you doing? whats the actual problem? |
| 11:36.45 | streuner | ma3x: no, vice versa ;-) |
| 11:36.57 | anabain | any specialist here in kernel and filesystem stuff? |
| 11:37.08 | ma3x | streuner, I do, quite often |
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| 11:37.37 | tarzeau | anabain: just ask |
| 11:38.16 | ma3x | ma3x@ma3x:~$ setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us |
| 11:38.16 | ma3x | Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' Error loading new keyboard description |
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| 11:38.33 | iluciv | I've installed etch today (netinstall) and was working fine (except ati card) tried to get that working didn't so I reset it all to original install now I just can login to gnome I can pull up a shell and login to that np but try the gui and it'll just log me in the straight back to login screen again |
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| 11:39.11 | liable | iluciv: try startx from the console and see what errors it throws. |
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| 11:40.30 | liable | iluciv: it isnt a login problem, its an x problem.. |
| 11:40.44 | milez | nkuttler: still here? |
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| 11:41.24 | streuner | ma3x: just ask your questions here |
| 11:41.31 | yage | I have a machina with hardware agents which sends snmp traps on hardware failure, i'd like to receive a mail on critical/major events, is there any way to do this |
| 11:41.31 | yage | ? |
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| 11:41.52 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.57 | yaboo | someone posted the xserver-xorg status 64 error, can someone post the error link again please |
| 11:42.20 | liable | yaboo: check the bts for xserver-xorg |
| 11:42.22 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:42.31 | yaboo | liable, bts? |
| 11:42.32 | ma3x | streuner, well I did paste the output of setxkbmap |
| 11:42.48 | milez | since the xserver-xorg preinst script was borking out an error i followed nkuttler's advice and added set -x to the preinst script, and created a new package from it using the dpkg-deb -b command. from the new debugging info it seems that the preinst script is dying when trying to source /usr/share/debconf/confmodule |
| 11:42.50 | liable | !tell yaboo about bts |
| 11:42.51 | streuner | ma3x: unstable? did you read /topic? |
| 11:42.54 | milez | any suggestions? |
| 11:43.16 | milez | yaboo: i'm having the same error |
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| 11:43.37 | deepspace | w |
| 11:43.41 | deepspace | whoops |
| 11:43.42 | yaboo | milez, have you solved the problem |
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| 11:43.53 | [lain] | good morning :-) |
| 11:43.56 | milez | yaboo: read what i just wrote |
| 11:43.59 | ma3x | streuner, so what now? |
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| 11:44.15 | intx | how can I tell if a system is 686 compatible |
| 11:44.26 | streuner | ma3x: have some patient, Debian X Strike force working on the problems |
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| 11:44.39 | ma3x | alrighty |
| 11:44.47 | yaboo | milez can you tell me in simple english what you did |
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| 11:44.48 | flosch | hi |
| 11:45.15 | streuner | ma3x: is there a bugreport for that ? |
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| 11:45.21 | milez | yaboo: tried to see what was causing the 64 errorcode. apparently it goes deeper than i can figure out |
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| 11:45.33 | ma3x | streuner, no bloody idea :( |
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| 11:46.05 | streuner | ma3x: apt-get install apt-listchanges apt-listbugs |
| 11:46.13 | streuner | ma3x: and check out BTS |
| 11:47.37 | spikex | :q |
| 11:47.45 | spikex | lol wrong window |
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| 11:49.28 | ma3x | streuner, what package? |
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| 11:49.43 | zOap | I have added a usb mouse and it is recogniced, atleast dmesg says so. But it doesn't work. dmesg says: input: USB HID blabla logitech blabla. parport0: FIFO is stuck parpost0: Busy timeout(1) in compat_write_block_pio |
| 11:50.27 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:51.17 | ma3x | streuner, I can't write german, that sucks! |
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| 11:51.43 | streuner | ma3x: your english is good enough |
| 11:51.45 | liable | iluciv: you say all you did was alter xorg.conf? |
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| 11:51.59 | ma3x | streuner, I have to write some stuff, my fucking diplomarbeit |
| 11:52.18 | kazm | Hey everybody. I'm trying to optimize the boot process of my Debian Unstable system. Anyone how can give me som insight into how debian boots? I have the latest bootchart here: http://87.48.126.113/bootchart5.png |
| 11:52.22 | streuner | ma3x: about what? |
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| 11:52.34 | liable | wtf is diplomerbeit? |
| 11:52.35 | ma3x | streuner, about france |
| 11:52.38 | iluciv | well I tried to install the ati drivers put I uninstalled them and put back the original xorg.conf that I backed up |
| 11:52.47 | streuner | ma3x: you study french? |
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| 11:52.58 | ma3x | streuner, no, but something about france |
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| 11:53.02 | liable | iluciv: ati drivers from ati? |
| 11:53.11 | streuner | ma3x: so history? |
| 11:53.15 | ma3x | streuner, yeah |
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| 11:53.22 | ma3x | but have to write it in german |
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| 11:53.28 | ma3x | and cant load the layout |
| 11:53.39 | streuner | !keymap |
| 11:53.39 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 11:53.42 | iluciv | yeah before I read that they suck and you should use the deb ones |
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| 11:54.10 | iluciv | but would that ruin root as well?? |
| 11:54.17 | iluciv | wouldn't |
| 11:54.28 | streuner | ma3x: install locales and set it up |
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| 11:54.49 | nkuttler | ma3x: what do you use to write it? |
| 11:55.00 | anabain | tarzeau: why I'm having a weird problem with the kernel or the filesystem. I have tarred / and stored it in an auxiliary hdd. Them I've formated the orginal / partition (/dev/sda5) in ext3 (it was in reiserfs). Kernel has built-in support for ext3 and reiserfs. I've modified the fstab file. Then, from a live cd, I've made mkfs.ext3 on the former reiserfs /dev/sda5 partition, untarred / onto... |
| 11:55.01 | anabain | ...it and created /proc. Result at rebooting: kernel panic, unknown block (8,5). I also have tried MAKEDEV update (from the chroot, live-cd) but the problem remains. When formating again with reiserfs and restoring the tar then, everything works fine. |
| 11:55.04 | liable | iluciv: it may be a permissions problem on something. who knows what they have done |
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| 11:55.49 | liable | anabain: try re-install the kernel image? |
| 11:55.57 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:57.04 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:57.27 | liable | iluciv: you can try purging xorg. it might work. |
| 11:57.35 | ma3x | streuner, locales are installed, but I still can't change the lang |
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| 11:57.54 | milez | yaboo: you want to look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362891 |
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| 11:58.01 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.04 | ma3x | how do I change? |
| 11:58.05 | anabain | liable, what do you mean by reinstall kernel image? Do you mean" make install" being at the /usr/src/linux (as chroot in the live cd)? |
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| 11:58.30 | liable | anabain: is it a debian kernel image? or you compiled one? |
| 11:58.37 | anabain | a compiled one |
| 11:58.47 | liable | iluciv: use apt-get |
| 11:58.50 | liable | anabain: oh |
| 11:59.32 | anabain | but I also have a debian stock kernel, and then the panic is /dev/console doesn't exist. But it does exist!!! |
| 11:59.44 | liable | anabain: and the kernel image has built in support for ext3? |
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| 12:00.18 | streuner | ma3x: via /etc/environment |
| 12:00.26 | ma3x | streuner, I dont like that |
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| 12:00.33 | anabain | liable yes, as module, because it uses a ramdisk |
| 12:00.37 | ma3x | I just wanna click on the flag and change it |
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| 12:00.42 | ma3x | not setup environment every time |
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| 12:02.07 | liable | iluciv: almost. apt-get remove --purge |
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| 12:02.39 | streuner | ma3x: i see that i don't have /etc/environment anymore, it seems all you need is to use locales |
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| 12:03.19 | streuner | ma3x: set up locales for de too, and try to switch in k-control then |
| 12:03.38 | ma3x | streuner, that's what I was doing, but it still can't switch |
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| 12:03.48 | ma3x | streuner, locales were always set, but it doesnt want to switch them anymore |
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| 12:04.00 | streuner | so it worked before? |
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| 12:04.31 | streuner | bad luck then |
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| 12:04.52 | theKenT | x |
| 12:04.56 | tarzeau | my kellogs look like dog food |
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| 12:05.03 | streuner | you need to edit xorg.conf then and use locales |
| 12:05.18 | anabain | tarzeau, liable: any ideas? |
| 12:05.30 | ma3x | streuner, how do i switch the locales? |
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| 12:05.37 | ma3x | streuner, after i have them generated? |
| 12:05.51 | C`Alexa | Hello |
| 12:05.57 | streuner | ma3x: set up xorg.conf |
| 12:06.00 | C`Alexa | how i can chnage this HomeLinux@localhost.localdomain ?? |
| 12:06.05 | C`Alexa | localhost.localdomain |
| 12:06.09 | C`Alexa | ?? why send |
| 12:06.10 | tarzeau | !hostname |
| 12:06.10 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
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| 12:07.03 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.11 | ma3x | streuner, then should I restart X or what? |
| 12:07.16 | streuner | yes |
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| 12:07.19 | tarzeau | ma3x: just setxkbmap de_CH |
| 12:07.22 | tarzeau | streuner: no need to restart |
| 12:07.28 | tarzeau | streuner: isn't de_DE what you use? |
| 12:07.35 | streuner | tarzeau: he got an error... |
| 12:07.50 | streuner | tarzeau: euro, IIRC |
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| 12:08.02 | tarzeau | we don't need euro in switzerland |
| 12:08.08 | ma3x | ma3x@ma3x:~$ setxkbmap de_CH |
| 12:08.09 | ma3x | Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' Error loading new keyboard description |
| 12:08.22 | tarzeau | ma3x: your x is broken |
| 12:08.38 | streuner | tarzeau: both, de_euro and de |
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| 12:08.39 | ma3x | tarzeau, so? |
| 12:08.43 | ma3x | how do i fix it |
| 12:08.45 | zak_ | i'm on slow dialup so it is a real bitch when background services are using up my bandwidth... is there a way to see which processes are doing the most network activity? |
| 12:08.53 | tarzeau | ma3x: wait until they fix it |
| 12:08.55 | ma3x | or is it unfiksabal? :p |
| 12:09.04 | C`Alexa | 10x |
| 12:09.08 | streuner | ma3x: use what we told you before |
| 12:09.16 | ma3x | streuner, the xorg.conf? |
| 12:09.16 | vosti | ma3x, i had the same problem. de_CH doesn't exist anymore (i think). i set de as keyboard layout, and then ch as option |
| 12:09.17 | tarzeau | streuner: they even broke altgr |
| 12:09.23 | C`Alexa | tarzeau }{ |
| 12:09.27 | streuner | ma3x: Option "XkbLayout" "de" |
| 12:09.28 | tarzeau | vosti: can i have your xorg.conf ? |
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| 12:09.45 | streuner | well, @tarzeau ;-) |
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| 12:10.11 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: .o)(o. |
| 12:10.25 | ma3x | streuner, okay, I edited thatt, now what? it still doesnt write in german |
| 12:10.26 | vosti | tarzeau, ma3x yes. i put in vosti.ch/davide/ |
| 12:10.45 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: `-,.,-'-,.,-' |
| 12:10.50 | streuner | ma3x: did you restart X? |
| 12:11.02 | Shadowcat | anybody know of a good dictionary / thesaurus for debian, that doesn't require a net connection? |
| 12:11.23 | zOap | I have installed the usb mouse, and cat /dev/input/mice shows all the weird numbers and stuff while I move it. But it won't movemy cursor... Any ideas? |
| 12:11.38 | vosti | tarzeau, ma3x. run also setdelayout.sh ... |
| 12:11.56 | ma3x | streuner, must I restart everytime? |
| 12:12.02 | ma3x | what if I want to change it a couple of times!? |
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| 12:12.06 | C`Alexa | tarzeau i type: hostname myhost, don't change anyting i send mail HomeLinux@localhost.localdomain |
| 12:12.08 | C`Alexa | :(( |
| 12:12.13 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: telinit q |
| 12:12.15 | streuner | ma3x: well.. |
| 12:12.22 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: and don't forget about /etc/hosts |
| 12:12.38 | ma3x | vosti, you korea freak? |
| 12:12.50 | C`Alexa | tarzeau i send u private |
| 12:12.55 | C`Alexa | /etc/hosts |
| 12:13.03 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: a/s/l? |
| 12:13.12 | C`Alexa | why asl? |
| 12:13.14 | vosti | ma3x, haha, nono. but 4 years ago korea wins over italy... |
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| 12:13.24 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: if you want to talk private w/ me, i need to know a/s/l |
| 12:13.32 | C`Alexa | :> |
| 12:13.36 | C`Alexa | ok ;) |
| 12:13.38 | ma3x | vosti, what's wrong with your org.conf? |
| 12:13.40 | ma3x | *xorg |
| 12:13.48 | C`Alexa | i have this |
| 12:13.52 | C`Alexa | my hosts |
| 12:13.54 | C`Alexa | 86.122.207.128 sopirlaa.homelinux.org sopirlaa |
| 12:13.56 | C`Alexa | corectly? |
| 12:14.02 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: very good |
| 12:14.04 | vosti | ma3x, nothing, why? |
| 12:14.08 | C`Alexa | next ? |
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| 12:14.16 | C`Alexa | sopirlaa:/etc# hostname |
| 12:14.17 | C`Alexa | sopirlaa.homelinux.org |
| 12:14.18 | ma3x | vosti, so you still have the same problem? |
| 12:14.38 | ma3x | vosti, and you're gonna wait till they repair it? |
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| 12:14.43 | vosti | ma3x, no. i run the script i uploaded and it works fine |
| 12:14.47 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: show hostname and hostname -f |
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| 12:15.04 | C`Alexa | sopirlaa:~# hostname -f |
| 12:15.05 | C`Alexa | sopirlaa.homelinux.org |
| 12:15.16 | yaboo | milez, overcome xserver-xorg installation now gettting can't find synaptics driver and /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy don't exist |
| 12:15.36 | liable | yaboo: sid? |
| 12:15.44 | ma3x | Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property |
| 12:15.44 | ma3x | Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us' |
| 12:15.44 | ma3x | Error loading new keyboard description |
| 12:15.51 | yaboo | liable, unstable |
| 12:15.53 | ma3x | vosti, your script is borked |
| 12:15.57 | ma3x | mine X too |
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| 12:16.11 | milez | yaboo: synaptics driver? i can't even figure out where there X binaries are all are |
| 12:16.20 | vosti | ma3x, uhm, on my pc it works... |
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| 12:16.43 | yaboo | milez on the Securitypolicy issue? |
| 12:16.44 | C`Alexa | tarzeau need reboot? |
| 12:16.44 | liable | yaboo: apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 12:16.51 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: no, just telinit q |
| 12:17.00 | vosti | ma3x, are you running unstable? |
| 12:17.09 | ma3x | now, why is nobody able to tell me why that doesnt work? |
| 12:17.09 | ma3x | vosti, yeah sure |
| 12:17.09 | C`Alexa | how i can resolve this problem |
| 12:17.10 | C`Alexa | :( |
| 12:17.10 | milez | yaboo: no .. /usr/X11R6/bin is empty! |
| 12:17.12 | debianguy | does the linux-image-2.6.15 package support automatic detection of RAID superblocks? |
| 12:17.16 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: and login from scratch |
| 12:17.29 | liable | milez: read docs for x11-common |
| 12:17.43 | C`Alexa | tarzeau, sorry i don't understand :( |
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| 12:18.02 | milez | liable: you mean /usr/share/doc/x11-common ? |
| 12:18.06 | vosti | ma3x, uhm. strange. me too....did you try to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 12:18.07 | liable | yeah |
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| 12:18.21 | milez | oh |
| 12:18.26 | ma3x | vosti, why should I do that? |
| 12:19.26 | Fubarovic | what do i need to install to get "startx" ? |
| 12:19.27 | vosti | ma3x, i did, and now it works..fonts paths are also changed... |
| 12:19.39 | liable | Fubarovic: x-window-system |
| 12:19.48 | milez | Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' |
| 12:19.55 | milez | wtf |
| 12:20.05 | vosti | Fubarovic, xbase-clients |
| 12:20.07 | tarzeau | milez: don't run sid |
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| 12:20.26 | tarzeau | don't you guys read debian-devel ml? |
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| 12:21.02 | milez | tarzeau: we actually have work to do |
| 12:21.02 | Fubarovic | oh wait |
| 12:21.02 | milez | so no |
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| 12:21.06 | Fubarovic | i have X |
| 12:21.09 | Fubarovic | that works too |
| 12:21.12 | tarzeau | milez: so don't use sid |
| 12:21.17 | tarzeau | milez: and then whine here when it breaks |
| 12:21.21 | tarzeau | milez: go do your work |
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| 12:21.29 | tarzeau | and don't waste any more time on irc |
| 12:21.32 | tarzeau | this is not |
| 12:21.34 | tarzeau | !consultants |
| 12:21.34 | milez | tarzeau: i prefer to do my work with a normal desktop |
| 12:21.35 | dpkg | consultants is probably http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 12:21.41 | milez | and not kde 2.2 |
| 12:21.44 | tarzeau | milez: go use windows |
| 12:21.51 | tarzeau | milez: sarge has version 3 of kde |
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| 12:21.58 | tarzeau | !breastfeed milez |
| 12:22.04 | milez | :) |
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| 12:22.18 | milez | tarzeau: you're a fanatic. that's not a way to build an OS. |
| 12:22.28 | liable | good to see dpkg taking turns on the nipples. |
| 12:22.32 | tarzeau | milez: i'm the regular #debian user |
| 12:23.01 | milez | and kde3 sucks 3.5 is the only thing remotely decent. |
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| 12:23.09 | tarzeau | milez: kde sucks, yes |
| 12:23.16 | tarzeau | liable: that's called smart tits |
| 12:23.31 | vosti | ahha |
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| 12:24.16 | vosti | ma3x, woks? |
| 12:24.19 | vosti | works |
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| 12:24.27 | ma3x | yeah, I killed the fucking X |
| 12:24.29 | ma3x | and it worked |
| 12:24.36 | ma3x | with 'just logging out' it didnt |
| 12:24.47 | C`Alexa | ;((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( |
| 12:24.49 | vosti | ma3x, well!! |
| 12:24.50 | ma3x | now im damn tired |
| 12:24.53 | C`Alexa | why me :(( |
| 12:24.54 | C`Alexa | why |
| 12:24.56 | Kevin` | logging out usually restarts X |
| 12:24.56 | C`Alexa | :(( |
| 12:24.56 | ma3x | im gonna sleep |
| 12:24.59 | liable | iluciv: ok, at least you have something to go on. |
| 12:25.02 | tarzeau | C`Alexa: got MSN? |
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| 12:25.18 | milez | tarzeau: maybe we should all go back to using printers and punch cards |
| 12:25.19 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.20 | ma3x | tarzeau, did you set up the cam |
| 12:25.22 | vosti | ma3x, de_ch it's an unlucky layout :( |
| 12:25.39 | tarzeau | ma3x: the nethack cam, yes |
| 12:25.43 | liable | iluciv: yw |
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| 12:26.10 | tarzeau | milez: look use whatever you want. but this is not the place to whine about |
| 12:26.11 | iluciv | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.31 | ma3x | tarzeau, when I telnet, I just see bloody ';.| |
| 12:26.33 | liable | heh, whatever fits i guess.. |
| 12:26.36 | Knorrie | iluciv: you're welcome |
| 12:26.46 | C`Alexa | tarzeau don't work :(( |
| 12:26.47 | tarzeau | ma3x: k one more game |
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| 12:26.55 | C`Alexa | i don't have msn |
| 12:26.57 | tarzeau | ma3x: telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 |
| 12:27.03 | iluciv | lol |
| 12:27.06 | ma3x | tarzeau, nah, I'm tired |
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| 12:27.17 | tarzeau | ma3x: i'm a chaotic wizard now |
| 12:27.18 | milez | tarzeau: i am not whining. you are being rude and very unhelpful, and the solution you are offering to me is to not use the product. i've been on debian unstable for 3 years and am quite happy about it, given that i don't have to come here and take the shit of the likes of you often. |
| 12:27.32 | ma3x | tarzeau, wizard me |
| 12:27.41 | tarzeau | !sid faq |
| 12:27.42 | dpkg | sid faq is probably http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 12:27.48 | tarzeau | milez: at least read the channel rules |
| 12:28.06 | milez | i've read them and have been trying to debug the xorg package since morning. |
| 12:28.07 | tarzeau | milez: we hear the same guys like you so often, and it's just annoying |
| 12:28.13 | C`Alexa | bye |
| 12:28.15 | C`Alexa | i sinucide |
| 12:28.39 | liable | !dict sinucide |
| 12:28.41 | dpkg | could not find definition for sinucide |
| 12:28.42 | tarzeau | milez: 14:17 < milez> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' |
| 12:28.53 | tarzeau | milez: look when it can't be opened, maybe it's not where it looks for it? |
| 12:29.01 | tarzeau | milez: what about you put it where it wants? |
| 12:29.01 | milez | i'm sorry, but i'm just not your clueless newbie who can't solve his own problems |
| 12:29.15 | tarzeau | milez: but you much look like one |
| 12:29.45 | milez | so far i'm the one who found this out http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362891 and the only thing you can blame me about is not being familiar with the xorg-7 migration situation |
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| 12:30.11 | streuner | milez: read /topic |
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| 12:30.17 | vosti | milez, in xorg7 usr/x11rs is deprecated...moved to usr/bin/x11 |
| 12:30.24 | milez | vosti: i figured that by now. |
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| 12:30.28 | milez | this is pointless. |
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| 12:32.36 | sven_ | hello |
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| 12:33.13 | liable | hola |
| 12:33.37 | sven_ | hola |
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| 12:33.56 | sven_ | How long does it take to install (better said: bootstrap) debian sarge? |
| 12:34.05 | sven_ | (debootstrap) |
| 12:34.21 | tarzeau | ma3x: there's a rule about dungeon level and experience |
| 12:34.23 | spikex | oye como va, my ritmo ... |
| 12:34.28 | liable | depends on your net |
| 12:34.33 | syntrx | a couple of minutes, from a fast source on a half modern box |
| 12:34.37 | sven_ | eso es mí ritmo |
| 12:34.38 | tarzeau | ma3x: don't descent too fast, monsters get harder quick |
| 12:34.49 | sven_ | liable: 1mbit DSL downstream |
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| 12:35.08 | liable | sven_: around 20 mins? |
| 12:35.32 | sven_ | hm, not really |
| 12:36.07 | sven_ | It's already running 30min (AMD k6, knoppix & old hard disc :/) |
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| 12:37.07 | sven_ | yeah, now he's starting to install the downloaded debs... :) |
| 12:37.32 | Shadowcat | he? |
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| 12:43.29 | liable | mc seems to have the letter a with the ~ above it, as the surrounds instead of lines.. |
| 12:43.41 | wahjava | hi group, I'm on ubuntu |
| 12:43.45 | liable | its quite funky! |
| 12:43.51 | liable | wahjava: /topic |
| 12:43.53 | jsn | You should try #ubunutu |
| 12:44.03 | wahjava | OK |
| 12:44.08 | Luke1410 | Hi, got a problem doing a clean sarge-installation. I create 3 partitions: /boot (50 MB), / (8.1 GB), Swap (384 MB). All are primary partitions. But when I try to install lilo or grub, it fails. After removing the /boot-partition, the installation process works fine. Any suggestions? I've been spending 2 days now, trying to find the error... |
| 12:44.14 | cmb_ | What book would you recommend? "The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques", Martin Krafft, or "Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Bible", Harris and Vyas, or some other suggestion available on amazon.co.uk... Exxperienced on SLS (those were the days), Redhat and Mandrake, so most interested in apt/dpkg, and Debian specific "ways of doing things" |
| 12:44.49 | liable | cmb_: debian bible is pretty crappy imho |
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| 12:45.45 | vin` | cmb_: looked at debian-reference? |
| 12:45.45 | jsn | Luke1410, installing the boot loader is one of the last steps, isn't it? Did all the other steps work fine/ |
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| 12:46.19 | Luke1410 | @jsn: In fact it is (just before quitting the installation). Everything else worked fine. |
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| 12:48.29 | liable | Luke1410: shouldnt need to, but tried making /boot bigger? |
| 12:49.06 | Luke1410 | @liable: up to 100 MB, yes |
| 12:49.10 | donatelo | hello, i want to implement a RAID system for data protection on a server, and i wonder what should i chose RAID 1 or 5 ? any pro and cont about this ? |
| 12:49.12 | jsn | Luke1410, If its x86, 50MB is more than enough. Even plenty (although not excessive) for powerpc) |
| 12:49.38 | jsn | donatelo, there are tons of RAID pages out there. Get googly on it. |
| 12:49.56 | cmb_ | vin`, debian-reference? Is that a title? I'm wanting dead trees, and I'm currently not running debian, so... |
| 12:50.29 | donatelo | jsn: i read on google about it.. and there are diff opinions about it.. just wondering from the debian linux point of view witch is better.. |
| 12:50.39 | Luke1410 | @donatelo: Check out the web for the differences on RAID1/5. Raid 5 is something like a mixture of Raid 1 and Raid 0. If u don't need any striping, use Raid 1, otherwise use Raid 5. |
| 12:50.40 | cmb_ | liable, ta. Local book-stores don't have a wide range, but its hard to know whether a title is what I'm after without a browse... :-( |
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| 12:50.54 | jsn | Someone may differ,e but I can't imagine how there could be a debian specific answer |
| 12:51.08 | liable | cmb_: yeah, its hard to find linux titles in your average bookstore |
| 12:51.38 | donatelo | jsn : i use sata also... what would be your opinion about it ? |
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| 12:52.38 | vin` | cmb_: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#quick-reference |
| 12:53.06 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:53.06 | dpkg | somebody said popcon was the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:53.14 | jsn | My opinion is that debian is an OS that works with SATA drives, and most hardware one might commonly come across, and certainly far more hardware than works with certain multi-BILLION dollar software company's operating systems |
| 12:53.36 | liable | Luke1410: whats the grub error btw? |
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| 12:54.37 | Luke1410 | @liable: When installing grub, dpkg reports exit status 1, when installing lilo, the post-script-procedure returns exit status 32 |
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| 12:55.11 | elephantMan | Hi all |
| 12:55.59 | molly23 | hi all |
| 12:56.00 | zOap | how do I find what scsi ide(x.x.x) my cdrw is using? I couldn't find it in hwinfo... |
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| 12:56.10 | Kevin` | cdrecord -scanbus |
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| 12:56.32 | Kevin` | are you sure it's scsi? (are you using kernel 2.4.x?) |
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| 12:56.41 | cahoot | zOap: using a 2.4 kernel and ide-scsi? |
| 12:56.41 | zOap | nope. 2.6.12-1 |
| 12:56.47 | PaPyRene0101 | bash script redirection help? I want the output from ps2pdf as input for pdftotext; how to cerrect both => $ pdftotext -htmlmeta < ps2pdf file.ps or this $ pdftotext -htmlmeta $(ps2pdf file.ps) |
| 12:56.53 | zOap | and a ide writer |
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| 12:57.24 | cahoot | zOap: just use cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc |
| 12:57.38 | jsn | PaPyRene0101. why not ps2pdf file.ps | pdftotext -htmlmeta (optionally - at the end) |
| 12:57.38 | zOap | cahoot, thanks |
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| 12:57.53 | sphenxes | hi, my son was playing under his user name and now his desktop has freezed, however I can enter under his username in text mode. How can I log him out without using alt+ctrl backspace. |
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| 12:58.18 | Kevin` | kill the X process? |
| 12:58.26 | Kevin` | or the game? |
| 12:58.47 | PaPyRene0101 | jsn: gonna try it |
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| 12:59.02 | sven_ | re |
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| 12:59.21 | jsn | sphenxes: start from the top, kill the application first, then all x applications, then X, somewhere it should unfreeze |
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| 13:00.15 | sphenxes | jsn, thanks |
| 13:00.35 | sven_ | sorry for my stupid question, but... I've just run debootstrap, but this debian sarge-installation seems not to be complete... I'm really looking for ordinary tools like less (the pager) and there's not even apt(-install) installed to install anything!? |
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| 13:01.10 | PaPyRene0101 | jsn: ps2pdf file.ps | pdftotext -htmlmeta - => Error: Couldn't open file '-' |
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| 13:01.30 | norbert_ | sven_: it's apt-get install |
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| 13:02.28 | liable | where the hell is grub exit status. i cant remember wtf it it is. |
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| 13:02.58 | liable | sven_: less isnt installed by default. install it or use more. |
| 13:03.28 | Graveling | I am trying to install cinelerra through dpkg, but it's coming up with a heap of dependencies. Is there a way of installing these dependencies at the same time? |
| 13:04.06 | liable | Graveling: you can try forcing it, then apt-get -f install. might work, might not |
| 13:04.27 | Graveling | I'll give it a go right now, thanks |
| 13:04.34 | norbert_ | hi there, when trying to mount an USB stick - when it's not any of /dev/sd[a-h][1-9] ... does anyone know which /dev/... it could be? (the kernel has usb support, also for mass storage; this is showing up in dmesg) |
| 13:05.13 | liable | norbert_: but what does dmesg say when its plugged in? |
| 13:05.20 | mathieup | how to link a bluetooth connection to a serial port? |
| 13:05.59 | norbert_ | liable: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2; default language 0x0409; new device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, SerialNumber=3; Product: USB Mass Storage Device; hotplug |
| 13:06.09 | Graveling | liable, how do I tell apt-get where to find cinerella - I have it ins the same directory |
| 13:06.20 | liable | norbert_: what is it? |
| 13:06.25 | liable | Graveling: you dont. |
| 13:06.33 | Graveling | ahh... |
| 13:06.37 | liable | Graveling: you use dpkg |
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| 13:06.46 | ifvoid | mathieup: with rfcomm |
| 13:06.56 | norbert_ | liable: Tiny Disk ultra hi-speed 512MB-2.0 |
| 13:07.13 | ifvoid | mathieup: have you installed bluez-utils? |
| 13:07.19 | mathieup | yes |
| 13:07.35 | ifvoid | norbert_: do you have scsi in the kernel? |
| 13:07.39 | liable | norbert_: looks like its not being assigned a /dev |
| 13:07.45 | ifvoid | norbert_: it should show up as /dev/sd[a-z] |
| 13:07.56 | mathieup | ifvoid, how do u use rfcomm? |
| 13:08.32 | liable | norbert_: debian kernel? |
| 13:08.34 | ifvoid | mathieup: jus tinstall bluez-utils, and look at the settings in /etc/bluetooth |
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| 13:08.49 | norbert_ | ifvoid/liable: I have scsi in the kernel -> CONFIG_SCSI=y; CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y; CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y |
| 13:08.51 | cahoot | norbert_: provided you have sd_mod (scsi disk) enabled |
| 13:08.56 | mathieup | ok |
| 13:08.57 | ifvoid | norbert_: hmm |
| 13:09.01 | liable | norbert_: debian kernel? |
| 13:09.01 | ifvoid | norbert_: looks good |
| 13:09.13 | ifvoid | norbert_: and lsusb show the correct device? |
| 13:09.20 | norbert_ | I downloaded the kernel from ftp@kernel.org |
| 13:09.35 | sven_ | nobert_: Yes, it's apt-get, but apt-get hasn't been installed...!? |
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| 13:09.40 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 13:09.40 | dpkg | from memory, qotd146 is <penguin> If I run a command int the background like $command & <penguin> What happens if I turn the computer off |
| 13:09.46 | norbert_ | lsusb tells me: Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Super Flash 1GB Flash Drive |
| 13:09.50 | tarzeau | haha |
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| 13:10.04 | Kevin` | wow :D |
| 13:10.10 | norbert_ | haha, that one is nice |
| 13:10.24 | ifvoid | norbert_: then go the /sys/bus/usb/devices/ |
| 13:10.40 | ifvoid | norbert_: and cd to the dir that corresponds to the correct device |
| 13:10.41 | norbert_ | ifvoid: 1-0:1.0 1-7 1-7:1.0 usb1 |
| 13:10.51 | liable | norbert_: try it next time you boot a debian kernel |
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| 13:11.13 | PaPyRene0101 | solution for my redirectionproblem => ps2pdf file.ps && pdftotext -htmlmeta file.pdf && rm -rf file.pdf |
| 13:11.18 | cahoot | norbert_: make sure blk_dev_ub sin't enabled - tends to take precedence - the device ends up on /dev/ub* |
| 13:11.42 | Kevin` | you shouldn't use -r for rm |
| 13:11.43 | sven_ | Who |
| 13:11.51 | liable | me! |
| 13:11.53 | norbert_ | cahoot: there are no /dev/ub* devices on my system... |
| 13:11.54 | Kevin` | PaPyRene0101 |
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| 13:12.20 | ifvoid | norbert_: yeah, you ened to find the correct one |
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| 13:12.49 | sven_ | My Debian sarge-installation is breaked because these librarys (for examble libc, libc++, libgcc, libncurses, etc.) aren't configured yet. How the hell can I configure a library? ...? |
| 13:13.16 | norbert_ | cahoot: # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB is not set |
| 13:13.19 | ifvoid | norbert_: lsusb notes the usb id |
| 13:13.29 | ifvoid | here it says |
| 13:13.29 | ifvoid | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0781:5151 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro 256/512MB Flash Drive |
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| 13:13.36 | ifvoid | so thats devices/1-2/ |
| 13:14.04 | norbert_ | ifvoid: there is no /1-2/ |
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| 13:14.49 | cmb_ | vin`, thanks for the debian-reference link - exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. No one does this as dead trees, do they? :-) |
| 13:14.55 | ifvoid | norbert_: look at the lsusb output |
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| 13:15.06 | ifvoid | what device id does it give? |
| 13:15.11 | bliss1_ | hi |
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| 13:15.25 | norbert_ | ifvoid: I understand what you mean now, but there's nothing special in that directory |
| 13:15.33 | bliss1_ | liable; thanks i choose build a new kernel simple way to do it |
| 13:15.33 | wahjava | I'm packaging a python application ?? |
| 13:15.55 | wahjava | I want my python scripts to automatically compile ?? |
| 13:15.58 | wahjava | how do I do that |
| 13:16.03 | liable | bliss1_: you fixed your problem? |
| 13:16.09 | ifvoid | norbert_: hmm, these /sys stuff it always a bit hard to navigate |
| 13:16.15 | elephantMan | I have a modem/router as a gate to my LAN. I've setup a DynDns host that point to my public IP. How can i setup differents aliases that will point to different computers inside my LAN ? |
| 13:16.19 | ifvoid | it should like to the scsi driver it's using somehwere |
| 13:16.28 | ifvoid | wich would tell you which device it is using |
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| 13:16.41 | Kevin` | elephantMan not possible accept with http vhosts |
| 13:16.48 | liable | elephantMan: you cant all on the same port |
| 13:16.50 | Kevin` | unless you have more then one dynamic ip |
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| 13:16.53 | Kevin` | which I doubt |
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| 13:17.01 | wahjava | also python dependencies are not properly added to the .deb file |
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| 13:17.29 | ifvoid | norbert_: do you have a /sys/class/scsi_device/0:0:0:0 ? |
| 13:17.49 | norbert_ | scsi_device is empty |
| 13:17.54 | ifvoid | hmm |
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| 13:18.06 | ifvoid | norbert_: weird |
| 13:18.20 | ifvoid | norbert_: so your usb stick is not recognised by the scsi driver |
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| 13:18.37 | bliss1_ | liable; no not yet thing is with this fule that needs to installed is to download a source kermel do not complie it then sort of follow the acpi downlad page then compile , ita long winded but acccording to the url for my laptop that you gave me it sounded that since i have the custon file from acpi it was blowover |
| 13:18.38 | elephantMan | Ok. Lets forget the aliases so. Is there a way that my host point to a computer inside the LAN ? |
| 13:18.44 | bliss1_ | file |
| 13:18.50 | norbert_ | ifvoid: is the kernel trying to use scsi over usb2? |
| 13:18.58 | Kevin` | elephantMan commonly called port forwarding |
| 13:19.01 | ifvoid | norbert_: are you sure you have the mass_storage, scsi_mod and sd_mod drivers? |
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| 13:19.13 | bliss1_ | custom |
| 13:19.13 | ifvoid | norbert_: all mass-storage devices are scsi over usb |
| 13:19.21 | norbert_ | ifvoid: I'll put the .config on-line, one moment |
| 13:19.23 | yaboo | getting could not find default font fixed when I try to start x |
| 13:19.24 | elephantMan | Kevin`, it has something to do with NAT ? |
| 13:19.31 | yaboo | is there another xorg fault? |
| 13:19.37 | Kevin` | elephantMan thogh again, if you are using http, you can differentiate between names |
| 13:19.46 | Kevin` | most other protocols can't |
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| 13:19.56 | cahoot | yaboo: maybe this? http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 13:19.59 | ifvoid | norbert_: it sounds like you're missing usb_storage |
| 13:20.02 | Kevin` | elephantMan yes, it's a function of nat |
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| 13:20.18 | Eclipser | mh |
| 13:20.37 | Eclipser | I wonder if I should try to compile the latest drivers from nvidia site instead of the ones in debian (which don't compile!) |
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| 13:21.09 | cahoot | Eclipser: xorg on sid? |
| 13:21.16 | Eclipser | xorg on etch |
| 13:21.22 | Eclipser | 2.6.16.5 kernel |
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| 13:21.36 | norbert_ | ifvoid: http://www.student.ru.nl/n.l.m.dejonge/config.txt |
| 13:21.43 | bliss1_ | liable: i have found a howto to build a kernel from scrath is pretty stright forward but the acpi downlad page is simple but its understanding the path and such I will go ahead with the source kernel, or install sarge again |
| 13:21.48 | Eclipser | whines about missing member in some struct which didn't exist in my previous kernel either (2.6.14.3) |
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| 13:22.06 | Eclipser | but it compiledfine on 2.6.14.3... |
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| 13:22.26 | darylhobbs | hi all |
| 13:22.29 | liable | bliss1_: well, good luck i guess. |
| 13:22.42 | bliss1_ | liable: just one sec |
| 13:22.46 | Eclipser | is there a debian kernel with 1000Hz timer frequency? |
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| 13:22.58 | norbert_ | ifvoid: it is a module and dmesg seems to do a hotplug once I insert the USB stick |
| 13:23.08 | darylhobbs | how does debian detect hardware settings? |
| 13:23.15 | bliss1_ | liable : you said about etch do you have the command line for hat kernel please |
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| 13:23.19 | ifvoid | norbert_: modprobe usb_storage |
| 13:23.23 | jetscreamer | with udev |
| 13:23.24 | elephantMan | Kevin`, on my router config interface, i have a NAT/SAT section, and a Routing Table section. Which one should i use ? |
| 13:23.33 | Kevin` | nat |
| 13:23.45 | liable | bliss1_: its the next version of debian after sarge. its still in the testing phase |
| 13:24.10 | norbert_ | ifvoid: thanks ;-) |
| 13:24.25 | norbert_ | ifvoid: shouldn't hotplug do that modprobe for me? |
| 13:24.30 | bliss1_ | liable: ye i know just what you said this morning if why do i not try it? |
| 13:24.32 | yaboo | cahoot thanks allowed me to start X |
| 13:24.35 | ifvoid | norbert_: hmm, I guess |
| 13:24.44 | ifvoid | norbert_: but hotplug is obsolete, I think |
| 13:24.47 | jetscreamer | Eclipser: seems to me the later kernels may have a place to configure that but i'm not sure |
| 13:24.48 | ifvoid | all udev nowadays |
| 13:24.57 | ifvoid | norbert_: just put it in /etc/modules |
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| 13:25.03 | norbert_ | ifvoid: okay... apt-get install udev ;-) |
| 13:25.06 | Eclipser | ack damn |
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| 13:25.14 | Eclipser | I need to get this working before harry potter starts ;_, |
| 13:25.19 | jetscreamer | udev is probably still evil |
| 13:25.25 | ifvoid | norbert_: depends a bit on your kernel and distro versions though |
| 13:25.26 | Eclipser | jetscreamer, hmm |
| 13:25.38 | jetscreamer | Eclipser: but i'm not sure |
| 13:25.45 | Eclipser | I need 1000Hz timer frequency for rosegarden and midi... |
| 13:25.45 | ifvoid | norbert_: I think hotplug is still used in sarge, but not in etch and sid with >2.6.14 kernels |
| 13:25.47 | liable | bliss1_: if you have a fairly new laptop, and its not a critical box, i would certainly try etch, the kernel might support your laptop better. |
| 13:25.51 | Eclipser | which is why I compiled my own kernel |
| 13:26.02 | Eclipser | (and screwed it up a bit it seems) |
| 13:26.11 | theoner | how to remove cleanely apps that i install fr source, usually .tar.gz? |
| 13:26.21 | norbert_ | ifvoid: it's a 2.6.13 kernel config |
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| 13:26.27 | ifvoid | theoner: there's no general way |
| 13:26.31 | Kevin` | theoner you can't always |
| 13:26.35 | Kevin` | make uninstall try |
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| 13:26.41 | ifvoid | theoner: you should _never_ manually install stuff in /usr/ |
| 13:26.42 | liable | Eclipser: its in there somewhere under acpi iirc |
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| 13:26.45 | norbert_ | ifvoid: (with sid) |
| 13:26.46 | bliss1_ | liable: what would be the command line for the kernel image i have intel cpu |
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| 13:26.46 | jetscreamer | force use the luke |
| 13:26.47 | ifvoid | theoner: only /usr/local/ or /opt/ |
| 13:26.58 | norbert_ | ifvoid: anyway, thanks a lot |
| 13:27.13 | Kevin` | theoner there are programs available to create packages from a source install, which you can then remove |
| 13:27.15 | ifvoid | norbert_: the switching point might have been 2.6.12, I'm not entirely sure |
| 13:27.17 | liable | bliss1_: its not just a kernel. its the whole thing. etch has newer everything. |
| 13:27.27 | bliss1_ | liable: ok i understand |
| 13:27.29 | Coweater | theon: make uninstall if they have an uninstall target |
| 13:27.40 | theoner | Kevin`: which program? |
| 13:27.47 | Kevin` | http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ I know of |
| 13:27.50 | Eclipser | liable, umh? I'm asking if there's a pre-compiled debian kernel with 1kHz timer instead of the 250Hz |
| 13:27.53 | liable | bliss1_: its the next release of debian (once its ready) |
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| 13:28.59 | liable | Eclipser: 2.6.16 seems to |
| 13:29.14 | theoner | ifvoid: in the case of firefox, i think it goes to /usr/local. |
| 13:29.19 | Eclipser | my etch doesn't have 2.6.16 |
| 13:29.24 | Eclipser | if I recall :p |
| 13:29.29 | darylhobbs | how does debian detect what cpu I have |
| 13:29.30 | liable | CONFIG_HZ_1000=y |
| 13:29.51 | bliss1_ | liable: just before I go off to work if you can just lok here for a sec http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21 where it says make menuconfig is this where i put the path to my existing working config or use his version |
| 13:30.06 | Kevin` | darylhobbs by the time it could detect what cpu you have, it's already running enough that it doesn't matter :) |
| 13:30.33 | liable | bliss1_: thats for your kernel config. you need to be in the directory of your kernel source to run that command |
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| 13:30.56 | liable | bliss1_: you might want to find some debian kernel compile guides. |
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| 13:31.47 | bliss1_ | liable: which directory is howto in them at that point the kernel he has downloaded? |
| 13:31.57 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, I have a cd that only runs on a certian dell computer. I wanted to change it from a Dell GS1 to a GX! |
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| 13:32.11 | PumpkinPie | how do I exit minicom? |
| 13:32.12 | Kevin` | cd or cdrom |
| 13:32.19 | PumpkinPie | im trying to close the program |
| 13:32.19 | Kevin` | er cdrom drive |
| 13:32.21 | darylhobbs | cdrom |
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| 13:33.00 | Kevin` | I don't think the cdrom drive has any way of knowing what cpu it's running on.. anyone counter this? |
| 13:33.01 | liable | bliss1_: you need to cd to where the source is. if you get a debian source package it will be in /usr/src |
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| 13:33.24 | bliss1_ | liable: i understand that yes |
| 13:33.37 | entuall | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:34.27 | mz_work | anyone using xorg7 know how to fix the 'ugly cursor' problem? |
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| 13:34.29 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, sorry the cd only boots on a Dell GS1 and I have a Dell GX1. I think I can save the cd on the GS1 and make changes |
| 13:34.35 | bliss1_ | liable: so to downlad etch I can do it from the internet and install if i choose i suppose ? |
| 13:34.48 | the-scratcher | Can anyone tell me if it's possible to compile an arbitrary source tarball into a debian package? |
| 13:34.55 | Kevin` | darylhobbs boots? windows restore cd? |
| 13:34.58 | liable | bliss1_: yes |
| 13:35.00 | sparr | how can i make apt stop complaining about missing keys and signatures and such? |
| 13:35.01 | tarzeau | the-scratcher: sure, you need to create debian/* files |
| 13:35.03 | tarzeau | the-scratcher: which? |
| 13:35.09 | tarzeau | the-scratcher: see dh-make |
| 13:35.16 | liable | sparr: /topic |
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| 13:35.22 | sparr | liable: /no |
| 13:35.26 | Kevin` | and gs1 isn't a processor type, is it? I thought dell used intel processors |
| 13:35.28 | tarzeau | the-scratcher: www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 13:35.29 | liable | sparr: you lose then |
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| 13:35.47 | the-scratcher | tarzeau, thanks, i'll have a look :) |
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| 13:36.02 | bliss1_ | liable: any way thanks only reason is that this guy at forge has done a howto to install xen on sarge might be taking a chance if i think it applies to etch |
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| 13:36.06 | jc_ | Good Morning |
| 13:36.09 | Kevin` | darylhobbs if it's a linux cd you could obviously change whatever annoying program does the check |
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| 13:36.32 | sparr | liable: crappy assumptions ftw |
| 13:36.40 | theoner | i want to submit some log files for discussion of a problem. how do i do that? |
| 13:36.57 | Kevin` | a pastebin |
| 13:37.00 | liable | bliss1_: there are lots of compile guides out there. |
| 13:37.01 | jc_ | I have problems for configuration of agp intel video onboard(82815), I try servers i810 and i714, but I dont have sucess |
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| 13:37.59 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, would it be possible for you to look at the cd? |
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| 13:38.01 | nse | theoner: you can try pastebin.com |
| 13:38.12 | theoner | Kevin`: that would mean copy-and-paste the files contents. how about sending the files over? |
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| 13:38.18 | Kevin` | darylhobbs if it's a linux based cd, I will |
| 13:38.18 | liable | sparr: you said apt-key problems. theres the 2006 key factoid mentioned in /topic, if I am supposed to read your mind when you say key problems, then I guess i need my crystel ball refurbed |
| 13:38.20 | bliss1_ | liable: thanks I will bear in mind etch i know a few people who use it they swaer by it --it you swaer can swear by a software package |
| 13:38.28 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, |
| 13:38.30 | bliss1_ | swear |
| 13:38.36 | Kevin` | theoner for that, I use my own http server.. sorry ;) |
| 13:38.51 | elephantMan | Kevin`, sorry its was NAT/PAT |
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| 13:39.02 | theoner | nse: pastebin.com accepts files directly? |
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| 13:39.20 | stoneage | someone knows how to switch the dvb channel in mplayer? |
| 13:39.30 | nse | theoner: no. just their content |
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| 13:39.55 | bliss1_ | liable: catch you later hope all goes well with X |
| 13:39.59 | darylhobbs | how would i get it to you? |
| 13:40.10 | Kevin` | ah Port address translation |
| 13:40.16 | vbie2005 | hi tehre |
| 13:40.20 | theoner | oh, mplayer. i have a problem on that too. |
| 13:40.31 | liable | bliss1_: late |
| 13:40.33 | liable | r |
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| 13:40.39 | sparr | liable: first of all, dpkg is ignoring me. second, i said keyS, which should indicate the official one isnt the problem. |
| 13:40.40 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, how would i get it to you |
| 13:40.44 | redmonkey | hmm, irssi is cute ;) |
| 13:41.02 | theoner | i can get my mplayer to play streaming video despite having installed the plugin. |
| 13:41.09 | Kevin` | darylhobbs iso/http? |
| 13:41.15 | theoner | i mean i can't. |
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| 13:41.32 | Braindead | theoner: install w32codecs |
| 13:41.51 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, sorry a real newbie |
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| 13:41.56 | theoner | Braindead: that comes with mplayer. |
| 13:42.07 | liable | sparr: well, if adding an S means you are talking about unnoficial keys, ex-fucking-scuse me for not realising. read the page on the site where you get the packages. |
| 13:42.10 | Braindead | nope,it's only a reccomend |
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| 13:42.21 | theoner | i can play wmv files offline. |
| 13:42.30 | Braindead | a Suggests to be precise |
| 13:42.31 | Kevin` | darylhobbs make an image of the cd, assuming it's not from an image anyway, and send it to me over the internet somehow |
| 13:42.35 | sparr | liable: its dozens of sites all at once. im going to make a safe assumption that the problem isnt on all their ends at once. |
| 13:42.59 | liable | sparr: what sites? |
| 13:43.31 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, I guess you are not anywhere near Toronto Canada |
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| 13:43.55 | theoner | Braindead: would i be able to play wmv files offline if i don't already have w32codecs? |
| 13:43.57 | Kevin` | oh don't go MAILing it to me, that's just inneficient |
| 13:44.09 | Kevin` | and would take more then today |
| 13:44.16 | Kevin` | I would forget what it is |
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| 13:44.24 | Braindead | theoner: "mplayer-plugin does not work" can mean anything. any link to a page that's not working? |
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| 13:44.47 | sparr | liable: archive.debian.org potato http://archive.debian.org dists/potato-proposed-updates/ http://www.stanchina.net ./ ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch http://apt.cerkinfo.be unstable http://mirror.raw.no unstable/ |
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| 13:44.56 | theoner | Braindead: i can view the videos of cnn or cbsnews. |
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| 13:45.04 | sparr | ok, its not dozens |
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| 13:45.05 | yos87 | what is the other way to search exept locate apt-file |
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| 13:45.14 | sparr | although it was more before i trimmed my sources.list |
| 13:45.29 | liable | sparr: do those old repos even have signed release files? |
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| 13:45.56 | theoner | Braindead: more info. i am using firefox1.5, i have installed the mplayerplug-in. |
| 13:45.58 | liable | sparr: i very much doubt it |
| 13:46.22 | theoner | Braindead: with gecko-sdk. |
| 13:46.23 | liable | sparr: and you have imported the marillat keys? |
| 13:46.54 | Braindead | gecko-sdk ? |
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| 13:47.12 | theoner | Braindead: sorry,i cannot view the videos of cnn or cbsnews. |
| 13:47.48 | Daveman | hey abrotman, you on the prowl yet? :) |
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| 13:48.02 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, ok. The cd is about 300 Mb |
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| 13:48.12 | sparr | liable: they might not. i have no idea. i havent imported any keys except the one in the topic. |
| 13:48.16 | theoner | Braindead: fr memory, i think it is gecko-sdk, as specified in mplayerplug-in INSTALL. |
| 13:48.27 | Kevin` | darylhobbs how fast is your upload.. and stable? |
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| 13:48.59 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, 3mb and stable |
| 13:49.14 | Braindead | theoner: why didn't you just aptitude install mplayer-plugin ? |
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| 13:49.31 | Braindead | (apart from the current version in sid wrongly requiring mozilla-browser) |
| 13:49.38 | wahjava | hi |
| 13:49.43 | liable | sparr: go to marillats home page. theres instructions there, for the rest, you will have to find out yourself. for the potato ones, you will have to put up with the complaints, but why the hell do you have potato sources on an etch/sid box? |
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| 13:50.00 | wahjava | is there any tool that can generate python dependencies of my python apps, ready to be packaged as .deb ?? |
| 13:50.26 | theoner | Braindead: because i didn't apt-install mplayer, i can't apt-install mplayerplug-in. i have tried. |
| 13:50.29 | wahjava | I've tried sh_python, but it doesn't generates dependencies, but it compiles my python scripts in post installation |
| 13:50.30 | wahjava | ?? |
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| 13:50.51 | wahjava | Anybody who can help me ?? |
| 13:50.53 | NW|Smok | a friend of mine has a problem with installing debian he says that when it starts to search for new devices it stops on 80% |
| 13:51.01 | Braindead | theoner: then it's YOUR problem then. everything here works just fine. wanna go hardcore? then that's YOUR problem |
| 13:51.01 | NW|Smok | does anyone have any idea?? |
| 13:51.17 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, just so you know this cd is made for setting up a wireless thin client. |
| 13:51.25 | Kevin` | darylhobbs readcd dev=/dev/hdc -vv |nc -v kwzs.be 5910 |
| 13:51.26 | stew | wahjava: ask #debian-python on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:51.35 | Kevin` | assuming kernel 2.6, cdrom at /dev/hdc |
| 13:51.43 | theoner | Braindead: ok, that's your attitude, then GFY. |
| 13:52.02 | stew | NW|Smok: has your friend tried both the 2.4 and 2.6 install kernels? |
| 13:52.04 | sparr | liable: to get packages from potato |
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| 13:52.12 | Braindead | theoner: I was writing you could do your own dummy package with equivs but I went to have a coffee |
| 13:52.47 | Braindead | what a dumbass. couldn't he just say he was rolling his own shit right from the start? |
| 13:52.47 | liable | sparr: eww. but why? ok, it doesnt matter, but you will have to put up with the complaints. |
| 13:52.51 | Kevin` | darylhobbs wait, |
| 13:52.57 | sparr | liable: well, i needed libgimpprint1-dev |
| 13:53.01 | Kevin` | readcd dev=/dev/hdc -vv |nc -q 5 -v kwzs.be 5910 |
| 13:53.02 | StM | i have a little problem... When i ping a domain and the domain doesn't exists he rewrite the domain to my primary domain. How prevent i that? |
| 13:53.04 | StM | PING notexistinghost.com.site-to-make.nl (85.92.129.100) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 13:53.08 | StM | server:/etc# ping notexistinghost.com |
| 13:53.10 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, ok |
| 13:53.18 | aubergine | Hello, how can I tell clamav that it should move the infected File to a specified Directory? At this moment it scans it and tell me it is a virus but doesnt do anything |
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| 13:55.10 | Kevin` | darylhobbs not working or still typing? |
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| 13:56.34 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, not working |
| 13:56.37 | liable | !eat ImmaCookie |
| 13:56.40 | Kevin` | what part of it? |
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| 13:57.07 | ImmaCookie | you cant get mad cow disease from cookies |
| 13:57.18 | liable | meat cookies? |
| 13:57.20 | jetscreamer | lies! |
| 13:57.24 | Eulex | ImmaCookie, cow cookies? :) |
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| 13:57.31 | jetscreamer | cowpattiecookies |
| 13:57.41 | Kevin` | darylhobbs error message? |
| 13:57.59 | ImmaCookie | im only a mere choc chip cookie, none of this fancy cow stuff :( |
| 13:58.02 | Romano2K | hi everyone! i'm having a problem with samba since i compiled a new kernel... i can't mount smbfs volumes |
| 13:58.12 | Romano2K | i'm getting this message : "Could not resolve mount point <dir>" |
| 13:58.21 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, I have to sign off try email daryl_hobbs@hotmail.com |
| 13:58.22 | Romano2K | the smbfs module is loaded |
| 13:58.38 | Kevin` | doing this over email will be.. slow |
| 13:58.43 | sparr | apt-get install nvidia-glx --> 19 upgraded, 17 newly installed, 62 to remove. wtf? |
| 13:58.44 | abrotman | Romano2K: why did you compile your kernel? |
| 13:58.50 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, |
| 13:58.58 | Kevin` | darylhobbs do you have a web server? |
| 13:59.08 | Romano2K | abrotman: i updated it, why ? |
| 13:59.09 | Bashot86 | Romano2K: ahh... I want to script it. |
| 13:59.12 | abrotman | Romano2K: why? |
| 13:59.25 | Eclipser | abrotman, any idea if there's a debian kernel with 1000Hz timer frequency ? :p |
| 13:59.29 | stew | sparr: can you ask a more specific question? |
| 13:59.31 | darylhobbs | As I mentioned I am a newbie so it mighht take some explaining in real simple english sorry |
| 13:59.35 | abrotman | !kernel configs |
| 13:59.35 | dpkg | i guess kernel configs is found in /boot/config-* for installed kernels, and a collection of (hopefully currently) available kernel configs can be found at http://vireo.org/~stew/kconfig/ |
| 13:59.38 | Romano2K | abrotman: why not? i had a problem with dma, so i had to recompile my kernel. |
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| 13:59.45 | abrotman | Romano2K: ask #kernel |
| 14:00.07 | Romano2K | ? |
| 14:00.14 | Eulex | Romano2K, "why not"? because you seem to have screwed it up! |
| 14:00.14 | Romano2K | i don't understand i'm sorry |
| 14:00.19 | Eclipser | abrotman, does modifying those configs affect the kernel (after boot)? |
| 14:00.24 | abrotman | you compiled your own kernel .. it's not a debian kernel .. we can't support everything that everyone wants to compile |
| 14:00.27 | Eclipser | without recompilation ,etc... |
| 14:00.36 | liable | screw you guys -> bed |
| 14:00.37 | sparr | stew: how can i tell why upgrading my nvidia driver has marked such things as smb4k, xclip, xprint, and konq-plugins for removal? |
| 14:00.39 | Romano2K | Eulex: everything works find except samba |
| 14:00.42 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, Still with u |
| 14:00.56 | Romano2K | and since i compiled the smbfs module, i don't think it comes from my kernel |
| 14:00.59 | Kevin` | i'm here |
| 14:01.08 | abrotman | !tell darylhobbs about u |
| 14:01.17 | abrotman | Romano2K: did it work with a debian packaged kernel? |
| 14:01.19 | liable | Eclipser: 2.6.15 does too.... |
| 14:01.21 | stew | sparr: apt-cache show nvidia-glx or apt-cache showpkg nvidia-glx |
| 14:01.27 | liable | Eclipser: grep is your friend |
| 14:01.30 | Romano2K | abrotman: i didn't tried |
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| 14:01.42 | darylhobbs | what about u? |
| 14:01.45 | Eclipser | liable, yes yes but, don't I need to recompile it when I change it ? :p |
| 14:01.55 | abrotman | Romano2K: perhaps you should .. that may eliminate a possible issue |
| 14:02.08 | abrotman | Romano2K: can you even resolve the hostname oyu're connecting to? |
| 14:02.11 | liable | Eclipser: you want 1000hz? |
| 14:02.14 | Eclipser | I'm wondering if I can have precompiled debian kernel to have 1000Hz |
| 14:02.19 | Eclipser | liable, yes |
| 14:02.24 | ESPOiG_ | how do i get the terminal up at the boot up of my computer, instead of GDM logon manager? |
| 14:02.27 | liable | Eclipser: its in 2.6.15 |
| 14:02.27 | Romano2K | abrotman: i guess yes, but how to test that ? |
| 14:02.35 | Eulex | !tell ESPOiG about nodm |
| 14:02.41 | sparr | stew: that isnt particularly helpful to me |
| 14:02.50 | stew | sparr: why not? |
| 14:02.51 | Bashot86 | stew: ahh... I want to script it. |
| 14:02.54 | Kevin` | is there a way I can add a route to nowhere? |
| 14:02.58 | abrotman | Romano2K: boot the debian kernel .. and try it |
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| 14:03.06 | abrotman | Romano2K: oh .. you meant the name resolution :) |
| 14:03.11 | Eclipser | liable, I need to try it.. |
| 14:03.14 | abrotman | Romano2K: maybe with smbclient? |
| 14:03.18 | ESPOiG_ | Eulex: before u tell me something isnt there a bunch of keys i can press? |
| 14:03.31 | stew | Bashot86: what are you talking about? |
| 14:03.32 | liable | Eclipser: so.. try it.. |
| 14:03.32 | sparr | stew: because i dont know what it all means? and the parts i do understand link to other packages, which link to others |
| 14:03.36 | Eulex | ESPOiG, indeed, dpkg told you about it |
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| 14:03.55 | Kevin` | ala route add 10.0.0.0/8 nowhereinparticular |
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| 14:04.14 | Romano2K | abrotman: i'll try, but if i could avoid rebooting my server it would be great, so i'll try other things before testing a debian kernel |
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| 14:04.24 | abrotman | it's just a server :) |
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| 14:04.38 | ESPOiG_ | Eulex, i dont see it |
| 14:04.39 | stew | sparr: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html |
| 14:04.46 | Romano2K | abrotman: with many users connected to it :) |
| 14:04.52 | abrotman | they'll never notice :) |
| 14:05.10 | tuxbeginner | hello |
| 14:05.13 | Romano2K | they'll have to launch again what is launched now, am i wrong ? |
| 14:05.22 | abrotman | i was joking |
| 14:05.26 | tuxbeginner | and happy easter |
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| 14:05.45 | abrotman | tuxbeginner: we're a non-denominational channel |
| 14:05.46 | Eulex | ESPOiG, <dpkg> ...or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 14:06.05 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, no not yet. Will set up server Thursday |
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| 14:06.40 | ESPOiG_ | Eulex, what is fN |
| 14:06.45 | Kevin` | darylhobbs why didn't that command work that I gave, was there an error message of some sort? |
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| 14:07.03 | ESPOiG_ | Eulex, what key |
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| 14:07.20 | Eulex | ESPOiG, f1, f2, f3, f4, f5... |
| 14:07.20 | GrimF | ESPOiG_: F1...F12 |
| 14:07.25 | tuxbeginner | SInce I did dist-upgrade (testing) the whole debian section in the KDE start menu has gone! |
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| 14:07.38 | orangizer | hi all |
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| 14:08.00 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, I'm back |
| 14:08.11 | abrotman | tuxbeginner: install menu-xdg ? |
| 14:08.13 | ESPOiG_ | thx |
| 14:08.14 | Romano2K | abrotman: 'smbclient -L Keel' answers with the good shares |
| 14:08.19 | Kevin` | and i'm still here, waiting for an answer |
| 14:08.29 | orangizer | i have a ovislinki pcmcia tarjet |
| 14:08.35 | abrotman | Romano2K: and the mount point does exist .. right? |
| 14:08.36 | orangizer | and i want to configure it |
| 14:08.43 | Romano2K | abrotman: of course |
| 14:08.50 | orangizer | does anybody know how i can do it? |
| 14:08.51 | Bashot86 | orangizer: dh_make |
| 14:08.51 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, answer to what question |
| 14:08.56 | Kevin` | darylhobbs why didn't that command work that I gave, was there an error message of some sort? |
| 14:09.07 | orangizer | Bashot86: what is dh_make? |
| 14:09.09 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, |
| 14:09.10 | abrotman | Romano2K: can you mount something else to that mount point? |
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| 14:09.24 | tuxbeginner | abrotman: menu.xdg is uptodate |
| 14:09.29 | Romano2K | abrotman: what for example? |
| 14:09.46 | sparr | stew: that still doesnt help. some of the relationships are indirect. |
| 14:09.52 | Kevin` | darylhobbs yes? |
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| 14:10.02 | darylhobbs | Kevin`, command not found |
| 14:10.10 | Kevin` | which |
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| 14:10.30 | Kevin` | try just 'readcd' and 'nc' by themselves |
| 14:10.42 | Kevin` | readcd isn't really needed |
| 14:10.48 | abrotman | Romano2K: a floppy disk .. doesn't really matter |
| 14:11.21 | yos87 | abrotman: How are you? |
| 14:11.21 | tuxbeginner | abrotman: the debian section I am talking about is the one with lyx, kde sysguard, kate, kwrite etc. |
| 14:11.26 | abrotman | yos87: hi |
| 14:11.36 | abrotman | tuxbeginner: dpkg-reconfigure menu-xdg |
| 14:11.48 | Romano2K | abrotman: hmmm, i'm really sorry. i just apt-getted smbclient to try a resolve (it was missing, i don't know why), and now i can mount... |
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| 14:12.24 | darylhobbs | Later |
| 14:12.39 | Kevin` | ook then |
| 14:12.43 | tuxbeginner | abrotman: THANKS! |
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| 14:13.42 | tuxbeginner | another problem since last upgrade : Almost every icon in evolution is missing (on the buttons and next to each mail) |
| 14:14.16 | tuxbeginner | will a reconfigure on evolution help? |
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| 14:14.29 | tuxbeginner | i do not want to damage evolution |
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| 14:15.36 | abrotman | Romano2K: it was clearly your kernel :) |
| 14:15.55 | lanchow | Q: about swap size, 1.6Ghz P4 256Mo DDR, (ooffice lags a lot) what size for swap ? |
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| 14:16.03 | Romano2K | abrotman: why? i just had to apt-get smbclient to get the thing work |
| 14:16.16 | abrotman | Romano2K: you're missing all my :) .. implying humor |
| 14:16.18 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: i had a simular problem, it was do to gnome-settings-daemon not running |
| 14:16.24 | Kevin` | i'd use 512m, followint the old outdated standard |
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| 14:16.39 | tuxbeginner | bluebirch: how did you solve it? |
| 14:16.54 | bluebirch | type gnome-settings-daemon & |
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| 14:17.01 | lanchow | yep, 2*RAM as said in doc ? |
| 14:17.02 | Romano2K | abrotman: i'm sorry :) i'm not feeling confortable in english, i'm having trouble detecting humor :p |
| 14:17.19 | Romano2K | abrotman: anyway thank you for ur help! |
| 14:17.23 | Kevin` | lanchow uhuh |
| 14:17.48 | abrotman | !ur |
| 14:17.49 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 14:17.52 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: if the icons are back you can put that in your xsession or so.. |
| 14:17.52 | abrotman | Romano2K: you're welcome |
| 14:18.01 | tuxbeginner | bluebirch: command not found (keep in miind i use KDE...) |
| 14:18.04 | Kevin` | hmm I have 1gb ram and 512 swap here.. :/ |
| 14:18.06 | lanchow | standard is 2 * RAM size for swap size |
| 14:18.18 | Kevin` | I wonder how that happened |
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| 14:18.41 | Lexx | can anyone help me? I'm having big trouble with wine |
| 14:18.53 | cat | Lexx: what's the big issue with wine |
| 14:18.53 | liable | Lexx: alconon? |
| 14:19.01 | jbroome | the first step is to admit you have a problem |
| 14:19.08 | cat | lol |
| 14:19.15 | Lexx | everytime i run it, even without any arguments, it hangs my system |
| 14:19.27 | Lexx | and i've got to press reset |
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| 14:19.32 | cat | Lexx: etch? |
| 14:19.36 | Lexx | yes |
| 14:20.04 | intx | anyway to edit the partition table manually? |
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| 14:20.46 | tarzeau | intx: lde |
| 14:20.55 | tarzeau | intx: parted? cfdisk? fdsik? gpart? |
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| 14:23.12 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: apt-get install gnome-core should do the trick |
| 14:24.00 | tuxbeginner | bluebirch: 164 MB just for icons? |
| 14:24.38 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: maybe gnome-icon-theme is enough |
| 14:25.07 | tuxbeginner | this package is already installed |
| 14:25.09 | dark_ | there are any unix tool to convert utf8 files to ascii? or an sed/awk/etc snipped |
| 14:25.19 | liable | they are big icons! |
| 14:25.21 | dark_ | i want converte many files (a directory to be exactly) |
| 14:25.22 | tarzeau | dark_: many |
| 14:25.26 | tarzeau | dark_: recode can do it |
| 14:25.29 | tarzeau | dark_: as well as iconv |
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| 14:25.36 | dark_ | tarzeau, thanks=) |
| 14:25.37 | tarzeau | dark_: there's even gnustep tools that can do that |
| 14:25.54 | tarzeau | any unix tool can be applied to a bunch of files easily |
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| 14:26.00 | dark_ | recode seems to be what i am looking for |
| 14:26.09 | bob8x | HI at all! |
| 14:26.25 | dark_ | hello bob8x |
| 14:26.29 | Lexx | how about wine? anyone know why it would lock up a PC completely? |
| 14:27.05 | Eclipser | no wonder everything fails |
| 14:27.07 | Eclipser | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 14:27.07 | Eclipser | /dev/hda1 6.5G 6.4G 0 100% / |
| 14:27.39 | jbroome | that would do it |
| 14:28.09 | bob8x | sorry, but in linux i'm very noob, i have downloaded the 3.1 version, but it start as text command, what version or what should i do to run gui ? |
| 14:28.22 | bob8x | i'm talkin about debian.. |
| 14:28.30 | bob8x | *talking |
| 14:28.50 | tuxbeginner | Is there a way to check the console output of some days ago to see which packages have touched during the last dist-upgrade? |
| 14:28.55 | LordNazgul | bob8x try startx |
| 14:28.56 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: it seems you need gnome-control-center |
| 14:29.50 | bob8x | nazgul what is startx? a command ? |
| 14:29.56 | LordNazgul | bob8x yes |
| 14:30.26 | bob8x | ok, i will unistall ubuntu then i will reistall debian ;) |
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| 14:31.17 | LordNazgul | bob8x when you install debian it will ask you some tasks to install make sure you select desktop environment |
| 14:31.34 | LordNazgul | bob8x that should take care of everthing |
| 14:31.45 | bob8x | ok... |
| 14:31.50 | Eclipser | what to remove, what to remove... |
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| 14:33.16 | bob8x | at which step i should select desktop environmente? at the start or when i select the packege to install? |
| 14:33.35 | bob8x | i have to remove ubuntu |
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| 14:33.50 | kyncani | bob8x: if you're that new to gnu/linux, i suggest you start with a more graphical distro, like ubuntu |
| 14:33.51 | tuxbeginner | bluebirch: I intalled and started gnome-control-center: all the icons are missing there,too |
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| 14:34.13 | bob8x | i have already try ubuntu but i don't like it |
| 14:34.29 | Nicktaken | why? |
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| 14:34.32 | stoneage | isnt lfs for beginners? |
| 14:34.58 | LordNazgul | bob8x after it ejects the cd and reboots, you will go through a few steps and then it will present you with a screen that asks for tasks to install like desktop environemnt web server, email server, etc... just make sure decktop environment is selected |
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| 14:35.05 | stoneage | unstable is highly recommended for starting too |
| 14:35.06 | bob8x | ok |
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| 14:35.13 | bob8x | i understand |
| 14:35.13 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: the controlcenter has a configuration for themes |
| 14:35.24 | jetx | hey the stupid xmd5sum doesn't work |
| 14:35.26 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: there you can select your icontheme |
| 14:35.30 | jetx | with new sid xorg |
| 14:35.55 | LordNazgul | jetx see topic |
| 14:36.01 | jetx | okie |
| 14:36.05 | stoneage | has xorg7 at sid already improved?? |
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| 14:36.14 | bob8x | what image should i burn on the dvd? the binary 1 or binary 2 ? |
| 14:36.26 | jetx | 1 |
| 14:36.28 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 14:36.28 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd84 is <Guerin> i suck, you know this. |
| 14:36.50 | tarzeau | stoneage: not much yet, afaik |
| 14:36.52 | abrotman | jetx: no kidding .. it's been gone for a while |
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| 14:36.57 | tarzeau | stoneage: it'll take a few days or weeks |
| 14:36.58 | LordNazgul | bob8x what s your internet connection |
| 14:37.12 | bob8x | adsl 4mb |
| 14:37.12 | tarzeau | stoneage: but it works, what's your problem? |
| 14:37.24 | stoneage | tarzeau: well, my umlauts etc. didnt work |
| 14:37.29 | bob8x | in ubuntu i have alredy configured |
| 14:37.30 | stoneage | i went back to testing |
| 14:37.31 | tarzeau | stoneage: what keyboard? |
| 14:37.36 | stoneage | german |
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| 14:37.47 | tarzeau | stoneage: it works great with us english keyboards |
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| 14:38.08 | stoneage | yeah, since you dont have an alt-gr key ;) |
| 14:38.13 | tarzeau | stoneage: i do |
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| 14:38.18 | tarzeau | i've got a swiss german keyboard |
| 14:38.25 | tarzeau | but i also have an english keyboard |
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| 14:38.35 | tarzeau | and i use both english or sg, whatever i feel like |
| 14:38.41 | LordNazgul | bob8x where are you located |
| 14:38.42 | tarzeau | i can switch at any moment |
| 14:38.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: a singaporean keyboard? |
| 14:38.54 | tarzeau | actually in windows it's sg, in linux/freebsd it's english |
| 14:38.56 | bob8x | italy |
| 14:39.01 | bob8x | why? |
| 14:39.02 | stoneage | hmm, well lets see how x7 will work when it will arrive @ etch... |
| 14:39.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: no i hate french and turkish keyboards |
| 14:39.14 | abrotman | self-loather |
| 14:39.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: and i don't want to find out how singapore keyboards are |
| 14:39.29 | GrimF | can somebody tell me, how to boot in installed debian without installed grub or lilo? |
| 14:39.37 | Eclipser | .. |
| 14:39.46 | tarzeau | GrimF: using a grub on a floppy? |
| 14:39.50 | Eclipser | linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 paniced |
| 14:39.52 | tarzeau | GrimF: or cd-rom? |
| 14:39.58 | tarzeau | Eclipser: got a k7 machine? |
| 14:40.00 | tuxbeginner | bluebirch: Ok, icons are back, but all fonts in my applications changed.... |
| 14:40.04 | LordNazgul | bob8x i would download the images here http://debian.fastbull.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 14:40.24 | Eclipser | tarzeau, yes :) |
| 14:40.36 | GrimF | tarzeau: I have installed linux but don't have grub or lilo anywhere... |
| 14:40.41 | Eclipser | tarzeau, it said it can't find my root device or something.. |
| 14:40.46 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: in the control center you can change the fonts... |
| 14:40.50 | tarzeau | GrimF: why didn't you install grub as well? |
| 14:40.56 | GrimF | tarzeau: how to install grub? |
| 14:40.56 | tarzeau | Eclipser: sata? |
| 14:40.59 | Eclipser | ata |
| 14:41.00 | tarzeau | GrimF: grub-install |
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| 14:41.12 | bluebirch | tuxbeginner: but I don't know how to tell gnome not to touch them |
| 14:41.22 | tarzeau | Eclipser: hdx or sdx in your boot config thingy? |
| 14:41.38 | Eclipser | hda1 |
| 14:41.53 | bob8x | lord nazugul i have downloaded this 2 |
| 14:41.54 | bob8x | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/bt-dvd/ |
| 14:41.57 | GrimF | tarzeau: but how install grub when I can't boot to my linux (it has'n bootable program such as grub or lilo)? |
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| 14:42.12 | tarzeau | GrimF: live cd? |
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| 14:42.20 | LordNazgul | bob8x ok that should work no prob |
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| 14:42.32 | bug2000 | When I try to startx I get error about missing xinit. |
| 14:42.37 | Stork_ | what's the best debian-based (i'm hooked on apt) distro for a p5-133 that runs @ 133MHz and has 32mb RAM? i'll be using it over ssh, without any need for xserver (it'll be a p2p-node, for downloading and seeding) |
| 14:42.42 | bob8x | ok i'm burning the binary 1 |
| 14:42.52 | tarzeau | stoneage: debian |
| 14:42.56 | tarzeau | Stork_: debian |
| 14:43.04 | GrimF | tarzeau: please, tell me, can I install grub from live cd (DSL or other) and boot from it to my installed debian? |
| 14:43.06 | tarzeau | Stork_: there is no other. all others only make more problems |
| 14:43.11 | Stork_ | tarzeau: would it run on such a crappy pc? |
| 14:43.14 | tarzeau | Stork_: just stick to debian, or go use windows |
| 14:43.21 | tarzeau | Stork_: yes, don't install desktop/gnome/kde |
| 14:43.29 | Stork_ | tarzeau: LOL, windows, on a p5-133?? |
| 14:43.30 | tarzeau | Stork_: i have more crappier computers running debian |
| 14:43.40 | tarzeau | Stork_: yes sure. i run openstep on such a machine |
| 14:43.41 | Stork_ | tarzeau: i can't even run windows on my dell laptop |
| 14:43.42 | zophyx | 'even more' |
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| 14:43.49 | LordNazgul | bob8x ok that should get you going. if this is your only computer available i would read and print out some walkthroughs on setting up pppoe so you can access your dsl |
| 14:43.52 | Eclipser | tarzeau, it says "not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 14:43.55 | Eclipser | " |
| 14:44.03 | tarzeau | Eclipser: your own kernel? forgot initrd? |
| 14:44.06 | Stork_ | tarzeau: okay then, deb it is |
| 14:44.12 | Eclipser | tarzeau, debian kernel |
| 14:44.17 | tarzeau | Stork_: w/ 32mb memory you don't want X |
| 14:44.21 | tarzeau | Stork_: or try debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 14:44.26 | tarzeau | Stork_: linux is a bitch with that low memory |
| 14:44.33 | tarzeau | Stork_: netbsd/freebsd are much better, so is openstep |
| 14:44.36 | sparr | I updated my nvidia drivers, which led to a lot of other packages being removed. Now kdm and gdm are looking for /usr/X11R6/bin/X which doesn't exist, when I expect they should be looking for /etc/X11/X. help? |
| 14:44.40 | Eclipser | tarzeau, I install linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 |
| 14:44.51 | bob8x | lordnazgul in ubuntu i have alredy installed the connection, |
| 14:44.52 | Eclipser | (on etch) |
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| 14:45.09 | bob8x | so i think in debian it is the 'same' |
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| 14:45.32 | Eclipser | tarzeau, do I need to install initrd somehow with that? |
| 14:45.33 | LordNazgul | bob8x possibly possibly not ubuntu is not debian |
| 14:45.48 | minerale | Greetings, what is the name of the tool used to configure the x server/display |
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| 14:46.07 | bob8x | but i now how to configure, i have wrote down all parameters |
| 14:46.12 | Eulex | !drxx minerale |
| 14:46.12 | dpkg | minerale: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 14:46.43 | bob8x | dsn, gateway, ip all the necessary... fortunately i have a ethernet modem.. |
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| 14:47.41 | GrimF | tarzeau: please, tell me, can I install grub from live cd (DSL or other) and boot from it to my installed debian? |
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| 14:48.24 | tarzeau | GrimF: yes |
| 14:48.41 | kurtak | Could someone help me figure out why my truetype fonts look so bad (very steppy, and with bad spacing)? I tried setting X to load a different freetype lib and it said it was invalid, so i set the old one, and it loads it fine, however i noticed that the text looks no different, so could it be that freetype's not even being used? |
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| 14:49.04 | Eclipser | tarzeau, there's /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-k7 ... should I add that to lilo.conf somehow? :p |
| 14:49.14 | tarzeau | Eclipser: any reason you don't use grub? |
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| 14:49.15 | GrimF | tarzeau: thanks, i'll try :) |
| 14:49.25 | Eclipser | tarzeau, I like lilo! |
| 14:49.33 | tarzeau | Eclipser: and i like grub |
| 14:49.35 | Eclipser | :p |
| 14:49.44 | tarzeau | Eclipser: lilo is in #freenode |
| 14:49.51 | Eclipser | I know |
| 14:50.01 | tarzeau | Eclipser: i didn't know you... |
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| 14:50.22 | Eclipser | ... boot again |
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| 14:51.56 | GrimF | Eclipser: I had troubles with lilo when I connect second hdd and change mode on primary hdd with lilo from "master without slave" to "master with slave present". I have half of screen fulles with units and zeros, like 10010101010000101001... and so on :) |
| 14:52.38 | LordNazgul | bob8x in that case you may be able to get awat with the netinstall cd. MUCH quicker download |
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| 14:53.21 | Eclipser | it booted \o/ |
| 14:53.39 | Eclipser | now to compile the nvidia module |
| 14:53.49 | Guerin | !test |
| 14:53.50 | dpkg | Yes, guerin, you're still online. |
| 14:53.58 | abrotman | heh |
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| 14:54.15 | Eclipser | erf |
| 14:54.16 | Eclipser | okay |
| 14:54.20 | Eclipser | I need more free space first |
| 14:54.24 | Eclipser | 50MB free... |
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| 14:54.34 | obscuresoul | hi |
| 14:54.36 | bob8x | lordnazgul i sent you a query |
| 14:54.59 | Eclipser | correction |
| 14:55.00 | Eclipser | 32MB |
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| 14:55.28 | LordNazgul | bob8x ??? |
| 14:55.45 | bob8x | a private messages.... |
| 14:55.52 | minerale | Eulex: Thanks, quick question... (i'm stuck on cmd line) ... How can I figure out the horizontal and vertical sync range for my monitor (Sony Trinitron Multiscan E400)? |
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| 14:57.02 | Eulex | minerale, I think that hwinfo --monitor is able to do that sometimes |
| 14:57.17 | Eulex | minerale, otherwise you'll have to consult the manual of the monitor |
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| 14:58.44 | obscuresoul | i can access to a share in my network running "mount -t smbfs //x.x.x.x/sharename /mnt/share" ...but i want to use the computer's hostname who's sharing instead of the ip addr...like "mount -t smbfs //john/sharename /mnt/share"...how can i do it? |
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| 14:59.40 | bob8x | ok, thanks at all, i'm going to reinstall debian,bye bye |
| 14:59.41 | jaek | how can i hold a package...? |
| 14:59.45 | ifvoid | minerale: google suggests 30-96kHz horizontally and 48-120Hz vertically |
| 14:59.45 | Eulex | !hold |
| 14:59.46 | dpkg | hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
| 14:59.58 | ifvoid | obscuresoul: can yopu ping the hostname? |
| 15:00.13 | jaek | Eulex, thanks |
| 15:00.29 | obscuresoul | ifvoid, no |
| 15:00.43 | ifvoid | obscuresoul: this is a local network? |
| 15:00.50 | obscuresoul | ifvoid, yes |
| 15:01.03 | jsn | apt and dselect seem to be in different states. apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade say 0,0,0,0 (nothing to do) but dselect is trying to upgrade to x.org 7.0 (currently at 6.9.?.dfsg.?) |
| 15:01.04 | apt | jsn: that's too long |
| 15:01.10 | ifvoid | obscuresoul: then you need to but the hosts in /etc/hosts |
| 15:01.18 | Eclipser | hum |
| 15:01.18 | sparr | jsn: DONT DO IT! |
| 15:01.24 | sparr | jsn: that upgrade has decimated my system |
| 15:01.25 | ifvoid | obscuresoul: (or, alternatively, set up a DNS server on your network) |
| 15:01.28 | Eclipser | now rosegarden can't init sequencer |
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| 15:01.49 | kspath | !poop |
| 15:01.51 | jsn | sparr, well, I can't startx & as it is. |
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| 15:02.15 | nse | wow xorg 7 is breaking everybody |
| 15:02.15 | sparr | jsn: do you have a /usr/X11R6/bin/X ? |
| 15:02.20 | jsn | I don't know how apt and dselect can be out of sync, is this on purpose? I would imagine it is bad. |
| 15:02.32 | Eulex | nse, no |
| 15:02.32 | sparr | nse: no, bad debian package management for xorg 7 is breaking everybody. it has nothing to do with xorg itself |
| 15:03.00 | jsn | sparr, /usr/X11R6/bin is empty |
| 15:03.06 | nse | that's what i was meaning |
| 15:03.08 | ifvoid | sparr: hmm, I've had very few problems |
| 15:03.08 | obscuresoul | ifvoid, so i only need to add "ip hostname" in /etc/hosts and it will works? |
| 15:03.14 | cahoot | sparr: the wiki was of no use for you? |
| 15:03.17 | sparr | ifvoid: do you have /usr/X11R6/bin/X ? |
| 15:03.21 | sparr | cahoot: what wiki? |
| 15:03.22 | Eulex | sparr, gravity & co are busy fixing bugs and are doing a great job. |
| 15:03.22 | jaek | i am trying to install the cedega package, but it depends on a now-defunct xlibs package... how can i make it ignore that dependency permanently? |
| 15:03.24 | Kraig | wasn't it supposed to move to /usr/X11R7 ? |
| 15:03.36 | ifvoid | sparr: the only thing that I didn;t udnerstand is why the x-windows-0system stuff deosn't depend ont he mouse and keyboard drivers |
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| 15:03.40 | Eulex | jsn, /usr/X11R6/bin is now supposed to be a symlink to /usr/bin |
| 15:03.42 | Eulex | Kraig, no |
| 15:03.53 | ifvoid | sparr: yes |
| 15:04.00 | Kraig | i read that from the topic, weird... |
| 15:04.06 | ifvoid | sparr: it's a symlink though |
| 15:04.14 | bug2000 | When I try to startx I get error about missing xinit. |
| 15:04.15 | ifvoid | Kraig: no |
| 15:04.19 | cahoot | http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 - sparr |
| 15:04.20 | sparr | ifvoid: mine isnt |
| 15:04.33 | jsn | Eulex, should I manually link /usr/X11R6/bin with lndir? |
| 15:04.34 | sparr | cahoot: thanks |
| 15:04.34 | ifvoid | Kraig: everything is supposed to be in /usr/s?bin |
| 15:05.01 | Kraig | maybe i'm drunk or something |
| 15:05.03 | Eulex | jsn, ideally the packages should have done that, but yes, you could try that |
| 15:05.23 | jsn | Eulex, the other /usr/X11R6/(lib|include|man) are still there, too. |
| 15:05.36 | obscuresoul | ifvoid, tks it works ;) |
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| 15:05.49 | ifvoid | obscuresoul: you're welcome |
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| 15:06.24 | Eulex | jsn, for me too, actually. I don't know what's supposed to happen with those. |
| 15:06.25 | ifvoid | jsn: here only bin/X is a symlink |
| 15:06.27 | r_marvin | hello |
| 15:06.31 | ifvoid | jsn: the directories themselves are not |
| 15:06.44 | philips | I was running xorg from experimental and now xserver-xorg is not installable from the x 7.0 push, anyone have a suggestion? |
| 15:07.01 | r_marvin | any known recent issues with evolution (or gtk) in unstable? |
| 15:07.03 | Eulex | $ ls -al /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 15:07.04 | Eulex | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2006-04-16 17:48 /usr/X11R6/bin -> /usr/bin |
| 15:07.27 | Kraig | yeah... |
| 15:07.29 | r_marvin | besides the 0xdeadbeef one |
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| 15:08.21 | Eulex | r_marvin, you mean the glib error? |
| 15:08.23 | r_marvin | explanation: most of my icons in evolution appear as "broken image" |
| 15:08.25 | jsn | Back the difference between what apt and dselect think ought to be done. Is this happening, or is it a jsn-special? |
| 15:08.35 | JohnLenin | I take it the unstable x.org nightmare isn't over yet? |
| 15:08.57 | ifvoid | JohnLenin: not much of a nightmare, if you ask me |
| 15:08.59 | jsn | Luckily for me, JohnLenin, it isn't a nightmare, just inconvenient. |
| 15:09.05 | sparr | youd think when such a nightmare was known, it would be indicated somewhere during the upgrade process |
| 15:09.05 | r_marvin | Eulex: that is old, it was circumvented via a shell variable, but it works now |
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| 15:09.16 | Eulex | r_marvin, ok |
| 15:09.17 | ifvoid | sparr: why? |
| 15:09.27 | sparr | "hey, this package is going to break a lot of other stuff, dont install it yet" |
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| 15:09.35 | ifvoid | sparr: it isn't called "unstable" for nothing |
| 15:09.37 | jsn | sparr: that's called 'unstable' |
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| 15:09.41 | sparr | thats a sad excuse |
| 15:09.44 | sparr | and not valid. |
| 15:09.46 | ifvoid | no its not |
| 15:09.47 | philips | How do I find out which packages are from unstable, vs testing? |
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| 15:09.57 | Kraig | s/st/us |
| 15:09.59 | ifvoid | unstable is meant for debian devopers priomarily |
| 15:09.59 | Eulex | philips, you can't |
| 15:10.00 | thingfish | *plonk* |
| 15:10.03 | ifvoid | you're free to use it |
| 15:10.08 | ifvoid | but don't complain if it breaks |
| 15:10.10 | Eulex | philips, you can do qualified guesses, though |
| 15:10.13 | Guerin | philips: if you need to ask, you need to not use unstable |
| 15:10.15 | jsn | sparr: unstable is a clearly understood word, and concept, from the English language. I don't know if the foreign language installers make it clear or not, but it should be crystal clear |
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| 15:10.28 | sparr | jsn: except that its not unstable. |
| 15:10.33 | Guerin | greetings, hashdweebians |
| 15:10.35 | sparr | "unstable" is, for the most part, stable. |
| 15:10.38 | r_marvin | Eulex: any idea where i can start debugging ? nothing relevant in stdout |
| 15:10.40 | ifvoid | sparr: yeah, so? |
| 15:10.43 | ifvoid | sparr: it can still break |
| 15:10.44 | Guerin | sparr: we've had this discussion, and you're wrong |
| 15:10.50 | Guerin | !meaning of stable |
| 15:10.50 | dpkg | ok, listen up. "Stable" in debian terminology means "doesn't change". Stable is stable. Unstable, by definition is not, unless you don't update it, which means you're not up-to-date with security fixes. Either way, you're wrong, and you sound stupid, and you're giving a false impression of what sid is REALLY like. See <sid evangelism>. |
| 15:10.52 | jsn | sparr: not 100% of the time. its unstable in its unstable-osity. Nice catch |
| 15:10.55 | sparr | the non-"unstable" distros are so far out of date that its silly to think normal users will be using anything else |
| 15:11.17 | Eulex | r_marvin, I'd first check gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders so png or svg loading in gdk ain't broken |
| 15:11.22 | Guerin | sparr: except they do use them |
| 15:11.24 | ifvoid | sparr: normal users most definately shouldn'y use unstable |
| 15:11.28 | Guerin | sparr: in very large numbers |
| 15:11.43 | ifvoid | and if they do, they shouldn't complain about it breaking their systems |
| 15:11.52 | Guerin | sparr: anyway, glad to see you haven't become less of a troll in my absence |
| 15:11.53 | jsn | sparr: I used stable for years before a hardware issue sorta demanded I use unstable. I admit I used a few backports, though. |
| 15:12.17 | ifvoid | hopefully, etch release won't take so long as sarge |
| 15:12.18 | sparr | Guerin: i dont believe you. i know one person who runs testing, and my mother runs stable. and thats it. every one of the dozens of other debian users i know personally use unstable. drivers in stable are what, 2-4 years out of date? |
| 15:12.18 | r_marvin | Eulex: gaim seems to work, same with xchat or firefox |
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| 15:12.33 | Eulex | r_marvin, ok. can be just missing graphics then. |
| 15:12.34 | ifvoid | sparr: so, what's your point? |
| 15:12.42 | bug2000 | Q: when I try to startx I get noservers found, how do I fix this? |
| 15:12.43 | Guerin | sparr: you don't have to believe me, it's true. |
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| 15:12.49 | ifvoid | many people use it, so we should make sure it's stable? |
| 15:12.51 | jsn | Sounds like "I'm an idiot, and so is everyone but my Mom |
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| 15:12.58 | r_marvin | bug2000: the error is further up |
| 15:13.25 | bug2000 | Connaction reset by peer? |
| 15:13.28 | fantomas | Hi. Did anyone try Xgl? Does it run on etch/sid? Do you recommend it or its better to wait a year or two? :) |
| 15:13.48 | sparr | 'unstable is for developers' is a great motto, but it doesnt hold water when every other version of debian is so sadly out of date as to be unuseful. |
| 15:13.57 | r_marvin | Eulex: ok, i'll check the bugreports on evo and dependencies |
| 15:13.58 | r_marvin | thanks |
| 15:14.08 | ifvoid | sparr: well, then don't use it if you don't like it |
| 15:14.09 | bartlebee | all: I need to put in some kernel modules in modprobe -- what would be the right place to do so? |
| 15:14.09 | Eulex | sparr, no, stable is just a bit more than a year old |
| 15:14.11 | ifvoid | it's as simple as that |
| 15:14.21 | ifvoid | bartlebee: /etc/modules |
| 15:14.25 | Eulex | sparr, old doesn't mean not useful |
| 15:14.28 | bug2000 | fantomas, whats Xgl? it seems to be not found. |
| 15:14.31 | jsn | sparr: windows has all the leet new software you can use! I hear windowsME is the system you should use. |
| 15:14.44 | ifvoid | sparr: or make your own distribution that is stable and has all the lastest packages |
| 15:14.44 | Eulex | sparr, in fast, stuff has to be a little outdated to be stable |
| 15:14.52 | cat | windowsMe its the suckiest windows |
| 15:14.52 | sparr | Eulex: not useful for normal people. yes, it works for people who never install new software, and for servers. i use debian stable on a couple of servers, runs fine. |
| 15:14.52 | fantomas | bug2000: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Xgl |
| 15:14.56 | bartlebee | ifvoid thx very much |
| 15:14.59 | kspath | sparr: Unuseful to who???? |
| 15:15.17 | Eulex | sparr, define "normal people", and why it would not be useful. |
| 15:15.33 | bartlebee | ifvoid, it says list per line -- I have to pass arguments, etc (lustre modules) |
| 15:15.39 | fantomas | bug2000: and it is mentioned here too: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=352153 |
| 15:15.39 | sparr | Eulex: normal people... people who use their computers every day for average tasks, and want to download/run apps and games that are at least maginally new |
| 15:15.39 | kspath | sparr: I am not normal because I do not use untested and unstable software? |
| 15:15.51 | ifvoid | bartlebee: the options need to be specified in a seperate file |
| 15:15.54 | bug2000 | fantomas, I am still trying to find myself. |
| 15:16.03 | bug2000 | thats why I didn't check the places. |
| 15:16.04 | Guerin | sparr: drivers in stable are less than 12 months out of date, currently |
| 15:16.04 | Guerin | sparr: and drivers is just a kernel, which can be built or backported with the utmost triviality |
| 15:16.05 | jsn | dselect and apt having different impressions of what should be done? I've never seen this before. Is this a problem, or intentional, or ??? |
| 15:16.07 | ifvoid | bartlebee: under /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 15:16.08 | Eulex | sparr, sarge is marginally new. and why would old mean not useful? |
| 15:16.14 | fantomas | bug2000: ok |
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| 15:16.18 | ifvoid | jsn: dselect update |
| 15:16.38 | bartlebee | ifvoid : right -- I was thinking the same -- and this file will be included automatically or do I need to specify it somewhere to be loaded? |
| 15:16.39 | Guerin | fucking vietnamese interwebs |
| 15:16.48 | Eclipser | meh++ |
| 15:17.06 | ifvoid | bartlebee: the stuff under modprobe.d only specifies options and such |
| 15:17.09 | kspath | sparr: Most people using computers are doing silly and useless things. That is my definition of many of the "normal people" you describe. That is also an unfair sweeping generalization. |
| 15:17.15 | fantomas | bug2000: a screenshot: http://www.linux.org.ru/gallery/bigYFiyFn.png (not mine of course) |
| 15:17.17 | ifvoid | /etc/modules lists the modules that are loaded at boot |
| 15:17.19 | jsn | ifvoid: that's not it. |
| 15:17.33 | ifvoid | what's not what? |
| 15:17.34 | Eclipser | "Failed: Security Capabilities not configured as module; Realtime LSM will not work with /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-k7/build" |
| 15:17.40 | bug2000 | fantomas, looks good, how do I install it? |
| 15:17.45 | bug2000 | whats the package name? |
| 15:17.49 | Eclipser | grr+ |
| 15:17.49 | Eclipser | + |
| 15:18.12 | jsn | ifvoid: dselect, after update, wants to do the same thing. apt thinks everything is up to date. I haven't selected any packages, the only package dselect wants to upgrade is xserver-xorg |
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| 15:18.38 | ifvoid | jsn: oh, no idea then |
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| 15:19.15 | bartlebee | ifvoid: sorry about being annoying -- the 4 lines I have to put in -- 3 start with 'install' ex: install kptlrouter /sbin/modprobe portals; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install kptlrouter -- 1 is alias |
| 15:19.25 | fantomas | bug2000: Dunno. I think currently the best way is to building from sources |
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| 15:19.36 | bug2000 | heh. |
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| 15:19.37 | bartlebee | currently I have these in /etc/modprobe.d/lustre (all 4) -- that is incorrect? |
| 15:19.48 | bug2000 | I'll try AFTER I get some sort of X working. |
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| 15:20.03 | sparr | kspath: im not generalizing, im observing. ive met a lot of people in the last couple of years who use debian and debian-based distros. mostly gamers, to be honest. when UT2007 comes out, it wont run on debian stable. it probably wont run on debian testing. if i wanted to build GIMP 2.3 on debian stable i would have to build at least a dozen libraries from source that arent in stable |
| 15:20.06 | ifvoid | bartlebee: uh? why do you need those options? |
| 15:20.10 | kspath | new does not equal good just as old does not equal trustworthy or stable. |
| 15:20.26 | Eclipser | how can I compile realtime-lsm on debian kernel if the security capabilities are disabled... is there a kernel with them enabled? |
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| 15:20.45 | ifvoid | sparr: it sounds like you should be using gentoo ;) |
| 15:20.54 | jsn | sparr: You could build them from source, start a debian package repository, and distribute them to all your friends, and then you'd be a hero, just like in the games, except for _real_ |
| 15:21.09 | bartlebee | ifvoid, defined by lustre for modprobe (2.6 kerns) -- https://mail.clusterfs.com/wikis/lustre/LustreHowto |
| 15:21.09 | sparr | but, back to the topic at hand |
| 15:21.15 | sparr | i renamed my /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 15:21.16 | fantomas | bug2000: mor exciting screenshots: http://doci.nnm.ru/my_desktop/01.04.2006/xgl_pingvin_perehodit_na_opengl_/ |
| 15:21.20 | sparr | and linked a new bin to /usr/bin/ |
| 15:21.21 | r_marvin | Eulex: fyi, looks like #360859 |
| 15:21.28 | sparr | so maybe kdm and gdm will work now |
| 15:21.38 | sparr | i wont know til i restart X again, which ive done way too many times today |
| 15:21.45 | mortal__ | is it just me or has someone else problems with dri on xorg 7.0 |
| 15:21.49 | mortal__ | as in not working |
| 15:21.53 | ifvoid | bartlebee: well, --ignore-install simple means it has to ignore setting from /etc/modprobe.d/* |
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| 15:22.03 | thingfish | "xgl penguin crosses over to opengl"? |
| 15:22.09 | ifvoid | bartlebee: so I don't think it matters much |
| 15:22.16 | ifvoid | just put them in /etc/modules and be done with it |
| 15:22.22 | jsn | I forget, what's the verbose way to (try to) startx? |
| 15:22.26 | kspath | sparr: I am sorry. I do not play click and drool games. I use computers for things that are useful to me. |
| 15:22.47 | bartlebee | ifvoid k, trying -- thx |
| 15:22.52 | ifvoid | mortal__: what chipset? |
| 15:22.56 | mortal__ | i830 |
| 15:22.59 | ifvoid | mortal__: and have you checked the wiki page? |
| 15:23.00 | jsn | I don't even know what UT2007 is. |
| 15:23.03 | sparr | kspath: ok, now read the part about gimp |
| 15:23.04 | mortal__ | ifvoid: url? |
| 15:23.09 | ifvoid | uhm |
| 15:23.12 | sparr | kspath: an unarguably productivity-oriented program |
| 15:23.15 | Eulex | r_marvin, indeed |
| 15:23.22 | ifvoid | !xorg sarge |
| 15:23.23 | dpkg | xorg sarge is, like, now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 15:23.24 | kspath | sparr: Why? The version of gimp I have is great for me. |
| 15:23.25 | ifvoid | hmm |
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| 15:23.45 | sparr | kspath: good for you. its not for me. and it sure as hell isnt for people trying to migrate from photoshop |
| 15:23.46 | bartlebee | ifvoid, possible to have system re-read the modules file? |
| 15:23.48 | r_marvin | eh, i can live with that, maybe i'll downgrade later |
| 15:23.49 | ifvoid | http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 15:24.00 | mortal__ | k thx |
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| 15:24.22 | kspath | sparr: Why migrate if you already paid hundreds of dollars for the package? |
| 15:24.27 | Eclipser | eh |
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| 15:24.38 | Eclipser | I'm starting to feel like moving a away from debian soon... |
| 15:24.50 | ifvoid | !xorg sid |
| 15:25.01 | kspath | sparr: I would tend to use both if I already owned a copy of photoshop. |
| 15:25.08 | Eulex | kspath, except that most of them don't pay |
| 15:25.14 | ifvoid | dpkg: xorg sid is for upgrading problem to X11R7 in sid, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 15:25.14 | dpkg | ifvoid: okay |
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| 15:25.42 | [lain] | bye see you later |
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| 15:26.02 | sparr | kspath: because ps upgrades cost money |
| 15:26.05 | ifvoid | bartlebee: there's nothing to re-read |
| 15:26.05 | jsn | gravity: Not sure if you recall, I had a pre-inst returns 64 error yesterday (ppc). apt-get remove x-window-system-core (which nothing depended upon) fixed it |
| 15:26.20 | ifvoid | bartlebee: the modules in /etc/modules are loaded at boot |
| 15:26.23 | ifvoid | nothing more |
| 15:26.27 | Eulex | jsn, it's in the bugzilla. |
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| 15:26.40 | gravity | jsn: Yeah, that's a bug with the discover stuff. You can work around it temprarily by using discover1 instead of discover. The fix will be incoming soon |
| 15:26.41 | kspath | sparr: I am aware of that. I owned copies of that kind of stuff 8 years ago. That is why I switched to linux and BSD. |
| 15:26.51 | bartlebee | ifvoid roger wilco, thank you sir |
| 15:27.00 | ifvoid | yw |
| 15:27.08 | akrus | hello, how to rescan the hdd bus, I just hotplugged new hdd to my server and need to find it :) |
| 15:27.09 | sparr | kspath: well, i expect youll be happy with the new gimp, whenever it gets to your version of debian |
| 15:27.14 | akrus | without rebooting the server |
| 15:27.19 | kspath | sparr: I am running Debian on iBook because I will not pay to upgrade MacOSX. |
| 15:27.37 | jsn | gravity: I've been asking, no one seems to know why dselect only wants to upgrade only one package (xserver-xorg to 7.0) while apt doesn't want to do anything, even with dist-upgrade. |
| 15:27.37 | Kraig | hah |
| 15:27.41 | sparr | kspath: are there newer kernel packages in debian stable/testing? |
| 15:27.43 | Eulex | gravity, you mean, you'll do some regexp-replace stuff on people's xorg.conf to get the font paths right? |
| 15:27.55 | gravity | jsn: I don't know |
| 15:28.03 | kspath | sparr: newer relative to what? |
| 15:28.13 | gravity | Eulex: No, we have the server patched to always look in the right place in addition to whatever the user specifies |
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| 15:28.26 | Eulex | gravity, ah, ok |
| 15:28.30 | gravity | It's pretty awesome actually. I deleted the whole "Files" section of my xorg.conf and it works. Finds the fixed font and everything |
| 15:28.32 | akrus | x_X |
| 15:28.45 | gravity | Not that I recommend this |
| 15:28.48 | Eulex | gravity, that's cool |
| 15:28.54 | gravity | It was kind of the extreme test that I didn't think it would pass, but it does |
| 15:29.03 | gravity | There's probably other bugs that that uncovers |
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| 15:29.05 | ifvoid | gravity: btw, is there any specific reason why x-window-system-core doesn't depend on the keyboard and mouyse drivers? |
| 15:29.09 | gravity | But it should fix the biggest issues with that |
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| 15:29.18 | sparr | kspath: 2.6.14+ |
| 15:29.36 | abrotman | kspath: did you get the note? |
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| 15:29.41 | gravity | ifvoid: x-window-system-core... ok... so I removed that package in favor of the xorg metapackage. I'm going to be putting it back though as a transitional package |
| 15:29.49 | akrus | so could someone help me? ^^ |
| 15:29.51 | gravity | ifvoid: Basically, I recommend installing "xorg" instead of x-window-system-core |
| 15:29.51 | kspath | abrotman: Yes, I got the note. Thank you! |
| 15:29.57 | ifvoid | gravity: ah, ok |
| 15:29.57 | gravity | ifvoid: That'll pull in the drivers |
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| 15:32.06 | Kraig | weird, my nvidia offitial script (a bit outdated because my card is really old and looks like it lost support) doesn't have the --x-module-path option... |
| 15:32.18 | bcs | Running sid and I'm having weird issues with gnome-settings-daemon. GNOME complains at startup that it can't start the daemon, even though the process is running. Some of my configuration changes, specifically keyboard-related ones, don't seem to take. My only hint is that gnome-setting-daemon prints a warning about not being able to contact the bonobo activation server. No obvious bugs reported that I can find. Any ideas? |
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| 15:32.42 | jsn | sparr: gimp2.3 is nice, but is gimp2.2 _really_ that old? |
| 15:32.55 | ifvoid | bcs: ah, I've got that same problem |
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| 15:33.17 | Eulex | gimp 2.3.x are development releases |
| 15:33.31 | sparr | Eulex: i know this. 2.4 will be out soon. |
| 15:33.33 | sparr | jsn: not yet, 5 months or so |
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| 15:33.44 | thingfish | still listening to that guy? |
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| 15:34.00 | Eulex | even if stable would be 100% up-to-date, it wouldn't be included in something labeled 'stable'. |
| 15:34.01 | ifvoid | bcs: seems X11R7 related: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=362563 |
| 15:34.22 | gravity | bcs: Do you have xkb-data installed? |
| 15:34.34 | sparr | Eulex: im aware of this. that wasnt the point. did you bother reading what i said? |
| 15:34.45 | bcs | gravity: Yes. |
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| 15:34.49 | gravity | hrm |
| 15:35.02 | gravity | bcs: What version of libxklavier do you have installed? |
| 15:35.21 | sparr | Eulex: i wasnt talking about putting gimp in stable. i was talking about gimp not having packages for most of the libraries it would need. the same applies for any new software. thats the worst. i dont mind having to compile a package, but when i have to compile dependencies it starts getting really annoying |
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| 15:35.28 | ifvoid | gravity: libxklavier10 2.2-2 here |
| 15:35.29 | pinucset | i've a big trouble, since yesterday i updated my debian unstable accents doesn't work at all in kde applications. For example, they doesnt work in konqueror but yes in firefox, somebody can help me please? I've spent hours searching... |
| 15:35.32 | sparr | Eulex: err, "stable not having" |
| 15:35.33 | gravity | hrm |
| 15:35.36 | Guerin | sparr: stable is stable. If you want new software, don't use it |
| 15:35.40 | gravity | Those are the two issues I've had related to that |
| 15:35.52 | gravity | I haven't heard of any new ones, nor experienced them myself with gnome |
| 15:35.54 | pinucset | sparr stable is for servers in general |
| 15:36.04 | sparr | pinucset: i agree. we are in the minority. |
| 15:36.05 | kspath | sparr: Do you understand what the word stable means? |
| 15:36.09 | sparr | kspath: yes. |
| 15:36.16 | sparr | kspath: both meanings |
| 15:36.17 | Guerin | sparr: if you want to use the new gimp, stable is the wrong distro for you, and whining about it is really just making you look like an ignorant fool |
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| 15:36.31 | bcs | gravity: 2.2-2. The keyboard configuration thing is printing out its own error that suggests libxklavier as a possible cause; it wasn't clear whether they were related issues or not. |
| 15:36.36 | pinucset | stable = tested thing |
| 15:36.38 | sparr | Guerin: can you go 5 minutes without contradicting yourself? |
| 15:36.39 | jsn | sparr: the worst ever? You mean, worse than having a stable operating system, for free, with thousands of people helping out to keep it up to date, for free? As bad as that, even? |
| 15:36.50 | Guerin | sparr: maybe. |
| 15:36.53 | Kraig | haha |
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| 15:37.14 | sparr | jsn: huh? who said worst ever? |
| 15:37.20 | bcs | ifvoid: Thanks. Interesting to see, although the error in the bug report isn't what I'm seeing. |
| 15:37.42 | ifvoid | bcs: I'm not sure out of the top of my head if it was the same I was getting either |
| 15:37.45 | jsn | sparr: "thats the worst." <-- you did. |
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| 15:38.33 | sparr | jsn: yes, quite a bit worse. |
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| 15:39.04 | abrotman | sparr: i'm not sure why you use debian at all .. AFAICT .. you're a troll |
| 15:39.09 | kspath | sparr: Debian is free and slow and mostly careful. |
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| 15:39.18 | Guerin | abrotman: has been for ages |
| 15:39.18 | ifvoid | please just ignore the guy |
| 15:39.19 | sparr | abrotman: because, short of gentoo, it offers the best selection of new packages. |
| 15:39.21 | thingfish | I plonked him after about 4 sentences. |
| 15:39.32 | abrotman | sparr: you're welcome to make your own distro |
| 15:39.47 | abrotman | this is why caphuso used to kick him constantly |
| 15:39.49 | jsn | sparr: who said anything about the worst type of debian user being the one who doesn't want to understand unstable, but simply use it? |
| 15:39.51 | ifvoid | sparr: let's just stop this discussion, ok? |
| 15:39.57 | r_marvin | or you can apply for DPL |
| 15:39.58 | r_marvin | :) |
| 15:39.59 | ifvoid | sparr: this channel is for technical help |
| 15:40.05 | reind | I'm looking at using an encrypted filesystem. Can anyone point me in a good direction? |
| 15:40.09 | ifvoid | not for flames over what is the best distro |
| 15:40.17 | r_marvin | reind: dm-crypt |
| 15:40.18 | Guerin | apart from anything, this particular horse has been flogged into the next world already |
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| 15:40.39 | sparr | ifvoid: i came here for technical help. and i got it. when someone told me to make my /usr/X11R6/bin a lin to /usr/bin it probably solved the problem. im just annoyed that the package didnt do it, leaving kdm/gdm/etc broken |
| 15:40.42 | Guerin | by about a hundred million fucktards, to whose comments sparr has added absolutely fuck-all |
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| 15:40.54 | sparr | link |
| 15:40.55 | kspath | sparr: Making your own distro sounds like that best solution. At first it can be for yourself but if you recruit people to help you and they like it than maybe it will survive and be useful to others. |
| 15:40.59 | ifvoid | reind: I'm using dm_crypt with pam_mount |
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| 15:41.07 | reind | r_marvin ifvoid thanks |
| 15:41.20 | ifvoid | sparr: yes, we got the point that you're annoyed |
| 15:41.26 | ifvoid | now please stop this discussion |
| 15:41.44 | gravity | sparr: That's a bug that we've fixed |
| 15:41.52 | gravity | Welcome to unstable |
| 15:41.58 | sclebo05 | right, thats why its unstable |
| 15:42.01 | gravity | If you want to participate in the development of Debian, don't be a tool |
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| 15:42.21 | gravity | Shit breaks during development. Deal with it. |
| 15:42.31 | abrotman | don't run unstable .. it breaks ... |
| 15:42.33 | ifvoid | let's stop it ok? |
| 15:42.44 | sparr | sclebo05: including bugs like this in the same definition of "unstable" as includes packages that havent had any critical bugs in months makes the word meaningless. |
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| 15:42.44 | ifvoid | before we get an all-out flame |
| 15:42.50 | abrotman | !flame ifvoid |
| 15:42.50 | dpkg | ifvoid: YOU SUCK. And you know it. |
| 15:42.57 | ifvoid | abrotman: ? |
| 15:43.03 | abrotman | !irritate ifvoid |
| 15:43.04 | dpkg | ifvoid: wenas who uses cable lol |
| 15:43.13 | nullcode | what's the latest version of debian ? and where can i download it ? |
| 15:43.18 | tarzeau | hi abrotman |
| 15:43.21 | abrotman | nullcode: the latest release is sarge |
| 15:43.24 | abrotman | !d-i nullcode |
| 15:43.24 | dpkg | nullcode, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:43.28 | thingfish | hehe I love those irritaters |
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| 15:43.31 | ifvoid | ha |
| 15:43.35 | ifvoid | take that! |
| 15:43.37 | sclebo05 | its a simple fix - takes 5 seconds, and most of us figured it out on our own |
| 15:43.44 | abrotman | !phillysmite ifvoid |
| 15:43.46 | abrotman | ha! |
| 15:43.48 | factor | has anyone gotten glx to work on xorg 7? |
| 15:43.53 | nullcode | wtf |
| 15:43.57 | nullcode | 14 ISO IMAGE CDS ? |
| 15:44.02 | abrotman | !d-i nullcode |
| 15:44.02 | dpkg | nullcode, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 15:44.06 | sparr | nullcode: its a big OS |
| 15:44.06 | alec | nullcode: you only need one |
| 15:44.09 | tarzeau | nullcode: for one arch |
| 15:44.16 | ifvoid | factor: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 <-- looked ta that? |
| 15:44.21 | sparr | factor: i think mine is working |
| 15:44.34 | stoneage | i guess nullcode is on sprc or mips |
| 15:44.39 | nullcode | which do i need to finish installation ? |
| 15:44.44 | nullcode | am on slack |
| 15:44.45 | paulliu | nullcode: if you use DVD, only TWO disc |
| 15:44.46 | nullcode | via vmware |
| 15:44.49 | alec | nullcode: grab the first one (or, better yet, the netboot cd) to install the base and pull everything else off the net |
| 15:45.03 | nullcode | bad connection here |
| 15:45.11 | nullcode | 256K adsl |
| 15:45.31 | kspath | sure beats "56K" modem |
| 15:45.34 | ifvoid | nullcode: yeah, so it's more efficient to only download the packages you need |
| 15:45.44 | ifvoid | nullcode: rather than the full set of 13 or so cd images |
| 15:45.45 | Eclipser | ... |
| 15:45.53 | Eclipser | my TV card stopped working with the new kernel :< |
| 15:46.05 | nullcode | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.05 | nullcode | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:46.14 | nullcode | is that enough for finishing installation like slackware ? |
| 15:46.23 | kspath | ???????? |
| 15:46.27 | ifvoid | nullcode: to install the base system, you only need disk 1 |
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| 15:46.33 | sparr | id be happy if there was a prompt in dpkg... "if you want your computer to keep working, select Y here: [Y/y]" |
| 15:46.41 | kspath | nullcode: What does Slack have to do with anything? |
| 15:46.43 | Guerin | nullcode: you were told what to do, now do it |
| 15:46.47 | sparr | maybe a /n option for developers :) |
| 15:46.52 | ifvoid | nullcode: afther that, you can get everything you need (and is not on the cds) from the web |
| 15:46.56 | factor | ifvoid:so I have to remove the module glx and itwill auto detect it? |
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| 15:47.02 | aarkerio | How can I setup my mute/volumen keyboard buttons? |
| 15:47.10 | ifvoid | factor: sorry, no idea |
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| 15:47.15 | withproblem | hi |
| 15:47.21 | jsn | sparr: how about write a wrapper script for dpkg, and have your friends run it, and you can put their upgrades on hold, any time you feel like unstable is too unstable for them. |
| 15:47.23 | kspath | sparr: I wish there was a questionaire on dist-upgrade from stable to testing and unstable. |
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| 15:48.13 | withproblem | i have a little problem.. i'm using debian sid and i update my debian today and the xserver dont want up.. it say that could not open default font 'fixed' |
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| 15:48.32 | jsn | withproblem: wiki.debian.org/Xorg69to7 |
| 15:48.47 | withproblem | jsn: wait |
| 15:48.50 | sparr | If apt-file says a package has a file, and dpkg says I have the package, and I dont have the file, how can I get the file without removing and reinstalling the package (which cascades into about 300 more package removals)? |
| 15:49.03 | stew | sparr: apt-get install packagename |
| 15:49.07 | Guerin | sparr: --reinstall |
| 15:49.19 | stew | !wb Guerin |
| 15:49.19 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! Guerin has returned! |
| 15:49.26 | sparr | stew: ive already got it installed |
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| 15:49.34 | sparr | Guerin: any way to make apt do it? |
| 15:49.38 | ifvoid | sparr: apt-get --reinstall install package |
| 15:49.40 | stew | sparr: right, that will upgrade |
| 15:49.43 | jsn | holy patootie! |
| 15:49.45 | sparr | stew: its up to date |
| 15:49.46 | Guerin | stew: good morning from vietnam |
| 15:50.07 | ifvoid | sparr: (or dpkg -r --force-depends, if you want to do it manually) |
| 15:50.13 | Guerin | sparr: apt DOES take the --reinstall switch |
| 15:50.14 | thingfish | ooh you live in vietnam, Guerin? |
| 15:50.17 | sparr | thanks Guerin |
| 15:50.23 | Guerin | thingfish: I do this month |
| 15:50.23 | withproblem | jsn: this page doesnt exist. |
| 15:50.25 | abrotman | sparr: just freaking do it .. why do you argue with everyone who gives you the correct answer? |
| 15:50.40 | pinucset | i've a big trouble, since yesterday i updated my debian unstable accents doesn't work at all in kde applications. For example, they doesnt work in konqueror but yes in firefox, somebody can help me please? I've spent hours searching... |
| 15:50.52 | ifvoid | !repeating |
| 15:50.52 | dpkg | We read your question the first time, and if we haven't replied, there's a good chance we either don't know, don't have time to answer, or someone doesn't like you. Repeating is annoying. |
| 15:50.54 | jsn | withproblem, sorry, typo: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 15:51.14 | abrotman | ask #debian-kde pinucset ? |
| 15:51.48 | sparr | abrotman: who said i wasnt doing it? |
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| 15:52.06 | abrotman | you just sat there and argued about it |
| 15:52.11 | sparr | abrotman: and? |
| 15:52.14 | ifvoid | abrotman: he was right though |
| 15:52.17 | scoates | I have a number of processes (pyton scripts: rdiff-backup) that have a state of D or D+ (uninteruptable sleep). I can't kill them, and they're artificially inflating my server's load numbers (waiting for IO, but never get scheduled, so load number is high, but since the procs are never scheduled, the _actual_ load is normal). What should I do? I've a reboot planned for tonigh, but that's only a temporary solution (this has happened twice, now). |
| 15:52.23 | abrotman | ifvoid: who was about what? |
| 15:52.30 | ifvoid | abrotman: a simpel apt-get install wouldn't have solved his problem |
| 15:52.32 | sparr | apt-file says "xbase-clients: usr/X11R6/bin/glxgears" and i have xbase-clients installed, but i dont have glxgears any more |
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| 15:52.37 | abrotman | ifvoid: they did say --reinstall |
| 15:52.39 | sparr | how can i get glxgears? |
| 15:52.52 | abrotman | !find bin/glxgears sid |
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| 15:53.01 | gravity | sparr: Install mesa-utils |
| 15:53.06 | abrotman | !tell sparr about search |
| 15:53.06 | Guerin | scoates: since it has no negative impact, ignore it. |
| 15:53.10 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/glxgears' (1): (/usr/bin/glxgears) in x11/mesa-utils. |
| 15:53.12 | ifvoid | abrotman: ah, o, missed that |
| 15:53.12 | ifvoid | sorry |
| 15:53.23 | scoates | Guerin: it makes monitoring the box very difficult. |
| 15:53.36 | Guerin | scoates: only if you rely on load averages |
| 15:53.40 | sparr | abrotman: wow, great spam. didnt i JUST SAY that i had already used apt-file? |
| 15:53.52 | abrotman | sparr: did you run apt-file update before searching? |
| 15:53.55 | scoates | well, load averages are a good general indicator the _something_ is going wrong. |
| 15:54.00 | paulliu | sparr: which version of xbase-clients? |
| 15:54.01 | abrotman | and if so.. WHY did you ask us where to get it? |
| 15:54.06 | Guerin | scoates: not where python is concerned :) |
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| 15:54.12 | scoates | load average: 22.04, 22.11, 22.16 <-- that's certainly not normal |
| 15:54.19 | ifvoid | scoates: depends ;) |
| 15:54.19 | jmp_me | wtf is kcore! |
| 15:54.29 | sparr | paulliu: the latest in sid, i think |
| 15:54.31 | sparr | abrotman: yes |
| 15:54.33 | scoates | Guerin: I'm looking for a solution to the problem, not "ignore the silly python script" |
| 15:54.40 | scoates | ifvoid: definitely not normal on this box. |
| 15:54.41 | abrotman | sparr: so you asked us because you think apt-file is lying? |
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| 15:55.16 | sparr | abrotman: that or the package is for some reason not placing files where it is supposed to |
| 15:55.16 | r_marvin | jmp_me: /dev/kcore ? |
| 15:55.29 | Guerin | scoates: the python script is causing the problem. |
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| 15:55.30 | abrotman | sparr: or you manually removed it? |
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| 15:55.44 | sparr | abrotman: which i didnt do. and i just --reinstall'ed the package, and its still not there. |
| 15:55.46 | jmp_me | r_marvin: jes. is it some kind of image of my ram? |
| 15:55.53 | Guerin | scoates: processes in zombie mode can't be killed; their parent process needs to die to release them. |
| 15:55.55 | scoates | Guerin: yes, I know. How do I kill it? |
| 15:56.02 | r_marvin | jmp_me: of the virtual memory , iirc |
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| 15:56.04 | abrotman | sparr: then everyone is lying .. including gravity |
| 15:56.08 | scoates | and how do I determine the parent? |
| 15:56.10 | r_marvin | don't use it :) |
| 15:56.17 | jmp_me | r_marvin: a ha, not swap? |
| 15:56.27 | ifvoid | scoates: pstree |
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| 15:56.31 | Guerin | scoates: so if you're conccerned about it, you could conceivably write another python script to grep out the ppid and kill it any time a process has been in D for a while |
| 15:56.36 | r_marvin | jmp_me: memory+swap , but it's not for direct use |
| 15:56.36 | h2k | will etch beta1 installer install etch or unstable? |
| 15:56.44 | Guerin | scoates: or maaybe choose another scripting language |
| 15:56.45 | abrotman | etch |
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| 15:56.57 | scoates | Guerin: it's not my script |
| 15:56.59 | gravity | Hrm, I broke glxgears on my system, but it's definitely in mesa-utils |
| 15:56.59 | Guerin | scoates: i don't know an automated way to do it other than to avoid the cause |
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| 15:57.01 | scoates | it's rdiff-backup |
| 15:57.04 | gravity | I can guess what's wrong though |
| 15:57.07 | Guerin | scoates: i know, i've used it too |
| 15:57.18 | Guerin | scoates: it's just the nature of rsync and disk i/o |
| 15:57.18 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. can i guess? :) |
| 15:57.24 | sparr | gravity: i got it from mesa-utils, but for some reason that version doesnt print out fps? |
| 15:57.25 | withproblem | jsn: for that i love this community!!! |
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| 15:57.39 | withproblem | jsn: this is the better support that i have on my entire live |
| 15:57.41 | abrotman | oh .. so it is installed .. and sparr is lying to us :) |
| 15:57.43 | jmp_me | r_marvin: ye hehe. i've been looking for something like windows debug so i can watch the memory and change it.. |
| 15:57.44 | sparr | gravity: and when i start it i get a broken view, i have to resize the window |
| 15:57.47 | withproblem | jsn: i love GNU/Linux. |
| 15:57.47 | Guerin | scoates: tjhe ppid shows up in ps -l or something |
| 15:57.54 | gravity | sparr: Yes, that's correct |
| 15:57.57 | scoates | Guerin: ok, thanks. |
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| 15:58.01 | withproblem | jsn: and the people that work with that.. |
| 15:58.06 | withproblem | jsn: thanks a lot! |
| 15:58.07 | sparr | abrotman: are you under some delusion that i do nothing but chat on IRC all day? |
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| 15:58.26 | scoates | ok, to the parent is cron. |
| 15:58.27 | r_marvin | jmp_me: not that. use top, or vmstat , or strace , or gdb . depending on what you need |
| 15:58.29 | abrotman | sparr: nope, but i'm pretty certain you shouldn't be allowed to have root's password. |
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| 15:58.31 | gravity | sparr: There's a command line switch to trigger the fps. Printing it automatically was an Xfree86 patch, not mesa. Now that we're shipping the mesa version we don't have that patch. There's a bug submitted about this already |
| 15:58.33 | scoates | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:58.51 | scoates | ew. sorry that's so ugly. backup_critical is my script name (bash) |
| 15:58.59 | ifvoid | scoates: pstree -pn prints the pid also |
| 15:59.04 | scoates | if I kill cron will they all die, or should I kill them one at a time? |
| 15:59.08 | jmp_me | r_marvin: but gdb is just for machinecode |
| 15:59.12 | sparr | gravity: whats the switch? no --help, no -?, no man page :( |
| 15:59.17 | Guerin | killing crond sounds unwise to me |
| 15:59.28 | r_marvin | jmp_me: you can use the C source, too |
| 15:59.37 | r_marvin | if you have it |
| 15:59.39 | gravity | sparr: I don't honestly remember. It's like --iunderstandthatthisisnotabenchmark or something |
| 15:59.44 | jmp_me | kool |
| 15:59.56 | bliss1__ | liable: remember we were talking about found this does this asume you have etch installed http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/320 |
| 15:59.58 | gravity | sparr: Hunt down the bug if you're interested. |
| 15:59.59 | sparr | gravity: well, if it interests you, the one in mesa-utils says Warrning :) |
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| 16:01.46 | sparr | if i had known upgrading my video card drivers was going to be this much hassle i would have just stayed with the old ones |
| 16:01.49 | DamianXL | ? |
| 16:01.56 | DamianXL | anyone reading me? |
| 16:02.02 | Braindead | sparr: if ain't broke,don't fix it |
| 16:02.05 | ifvoid | DamianXL: yeah |
| 16:02.07 | DamianXL | finally |
| 16:02.07 | sparr | Braindead: it was broke |
| 16:02.11 | DamianXL | no registration crap |
| 16:02.22 | ifvoid | registration crap? |
| 16:02.25 | bengrubb | good moral there |
| 16:02.29 | DamianXL | long story |
| 16:02.38 | DamianXL | hey... i'm wondering... I just installed a Debian system. Small thing.. P166 49RAM |
| 16:02.44 | DamianXL | But can't get static IP yet.. |
| 16:02.54 | DamianXL | Should i make a file /etc/ifconfig.xxx? |
| 16:02.55 | bengrubb | from ur isp or local |
| 16:02.57 | Guerin | DamianXL: man interaces |
| 16:02.59 | DamianXL | cuz now it doens't have one... |
| 16:03.00 | Guerin | interfaces |
| 16:03.06 | sparr | could debian run on the uclinux kernel/libs? |
| 16:03.11 | abrotman | !tell DamianXL about interfaces |
| 16:03.11 | ifvoid | DamianXL: you ened to enter it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:03.15 | Braindead | DamianXL: man interfaces && editor /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:03.33 | Braindead | DamianXL: http://qref.sf.net |
| 16:03.39 | DamianXL | :) |
| 16:03.39 | ifvoid | DamianXL: and after that, run ifup eth0 |
| 16:03.42 | DamianXL | good... |
| 16:03.48 | jmp_me | r_marvin: echo data > data;hd data. do you know any program which takes user-input in hex or binary or whatever to a specified memory location? |
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| 16:04.10 | DamianXL | brb |
| 16:04.19 | ifvoid | jmp_me: like a debugger? |
| 16:04.24 | jmp_me | yee |
| 16:04.34 | DamianXL | ls |
| 16:04.42 | ifvoid | wrong window ;) |
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| 16:04.46 | jmp_me | not gdb though |
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| 16:05.01 | bliss1__ | abortman: happy easter hows it going |
| 16:05.02 | ifvoid | sure you can change memory locations with gdb |
| 16:05.15 | abrotman | bliss1__: fine |
| 16:05.16 | scoates | if a process is D and its parent process is S, will killing the parent terminate the child? |
| 16:05.26 | abrotman | is bliss1__ the same as Piggy? |
| 16:05.40 | spikex | s |
| 16:05.44 | jsn | sparr, when was your last /sbin/dump? |
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| 16:05.55 | jmp_me | ifvoid: what's the commando to do that? for manualreading.. |
| 16:06.03 | bliss1__ | abortman: nope do i oink the same! |
| 16:06.07 | jsn | sparr: debian does run on uclinux, at least on the ipod it does |
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| 16:06.15 | ifvoid | jmp_me: just set |
| 16:06.16 | akrus | please could someone help me? x_X |
| 16:06.31 | Braindead | !topic |
| 16:06.36 | ifvoid | jmp_me: set {int}0x84040 = 4 is the expanmpl ein the manual |
| 16:06.42 | ifvoid | jmp_me: section 14.1 |
| 16:06.42 | akrus | I know, noone replies :) |
| 16:06.43 | ejofee | how do i find out which packages are there on my computer that no other package(s) depends on? |
| 16:06.50 | sparr | jsn: interesting... ive been interested in linux on a m68k with no mmu. debian/m68k cant do it, but uclinux can |
| 16:06.51 | Ronin | akrus: did you state the problem? |
| 16:07.08 | jmp_me | o.k |
| 16:07.08 | bengrubb | i'd just like to say debian is very cool |
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| 16:07.11 | Braindead | ejofee: use deborphan. and use aptitude instead of apt-get to prevent such a thing |
| 16:07.12 | ifvoid | sparr: I think that's being worked on |
| 16:07.29 | akrus | Ronin: yes, I plugged new SCSI HDD to my server and want the system to recognize it without having to reboot the server |
| 16:07.32 | ejofee | Braindead: thanks. and what does aptitude prevent? |
| 16:07.32 | moshii | sparr: I'm sure debian could run on most kernels ... |
| 16:07.43 | Braindead | ejofee: orphan dependencies :) |
| 16:07.47 | sparr | moshii: its not so much the kernel that worries me, its the glibc and such |
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| 16:07.55 | sparr | err, non-g libc :) |
| 16:07.56 | ifvoid | sparr: some people are trying to get the m68k port working on Coldfire |
| 16:08.01 | scoates | http://scoates.pastebin.com/665209 <-- where should I start killing? |
| 16:08.10 | akrus | support told me to rescan scsi bus o_O |
| 16:08.14 | ejofee | Braindead: how can it tell whether they are apps or mere ex-deps (like libs etc.) |
| 16:08.14 | bliss1__ | abrotman nope do i oink the same |
| 16:08.20 | Eulex | sparr, running it on a box with no mmu will be a problem. afaik the vanilla kernel won't do that. |
| 16:08.26 | moshii | sparr: ah, it's glibc that needs the mmu then? |
| 16:08.35 | Eulex | !oink |
| 16:08.36 | dpkg | i guess oink is the best cs server: oink.kicks-ass.net |
| 16:08.37 | sparr | Eulex: i know. uclinux will though |
| 16:08.37 | ifvoid | scoates: just kill the bash |
| 16:08.43 | sparr | moshii: heh, its a lot of things :) |
| 16:08.55 | Eulex | sparr, that's just a libc6 replacement, afaik |
| 16:09.13 | Braindead | ejofee: deborphan and debfoster are 2 distinguished things. man deborhpan |
| 16:09.14 | moshii | sparr: you could probably build an mmu-less debian userland, or buy an 030+ with mmu |
| 16:09.17 | jsn | sparr: google ipod linux. it's debian based. i'm not sure what % of things work, but it has been working for a year or so now |
| 16:09.18 | Eulex | sparr, oh, sorry, it's not |
| 16:09.21 | scoates | ifvoid: now bash is zombied: 2920 2919 Z [backup_critical] <defunct> |
| 16:09.35 | kspath | Braindead: distinct? |
| 16:09.36 | sparr | moshii: well, im targetting a specific platform, so adding a mmu isnt an option |
| 16:09.37 | ejofee | Braindead: and aptitude uses debfoster? |
| 16:09.38 | ifvoid | scoates: hmm |
| 16:09.39 | jsn | sparr: its debian, not debian based, sorry for confusion |
| 16:09.40 | sparr | jsn: will do |
| 16:09.47 | moshii | jsn: is it debian based? I didn't think it was |
| 16:09.55 | ifvoid | scoates: and if you kill the second CRON? |
| 16:10.00 | akrus | T_T |
| 16:10.08 | moshii | sparr: you could always run netbsd ^^ |
| 16:10.16 | Braindead | ejofee: nope,aptitude does not rely on debfoster. it's just smarter than plain apt |
| 16:10.32 | sparr | moshii: tempting... my storage space isnt particularly linux-friendly either |
| 16:10.35 | ifvoid | for certains definitions of "smarter" |
| 16:10.39 | ejofee | Braindead: does aptitude have any gui interface? |
| 16:10.44 | scoates | ifvoid: ok, now cron died, as did the bask, but the python script is still D and its ppid is 1 (and killing 1 is bad (-; ) |
| 16:10.45 | ifvoid | ejofee: synaptic |
| 16:10.53 | scoates | s/bask/bash/ |
| 16:11.01 | ifvoid | scoates: and if you kill it? |
| 16:11.05 | Braindead | ejofee: ncurse interface if you want. or use synaptic if you want a X interface |
| 16:11.14 | scoates | kill what? the python script? |
| 16:11.18 | ifvoid | yeah |
| 16:11.27 | Braindead | aptitude-doc-en to clear things up,read the docs |
| 16:11.28 | scoates | won't die. |
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| 16:11.33 | scoates | should I try -9 ? |
| 16:11.34 | ejofee | Braindead: do they intend to make synaptic as clever as aptitude? |
| 16:11.39 | moshii | sparr: oh, some sort of embedded thing then? netbsd seems more targeted towards small weird hardware than linux these days |
| 16:11.46 | ejofee | Braindead: ... eventually |
| 16:11.49 | sparr | moshii: a calculator :) |
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| 16:12.03 | jsn | moshii: i could have sworn it was, but i'm misremembering. he just had the toolchain build with specific instructions for debian. sorry |
| 16:12.17 | Braindead | ejofee: it should be just as "clever". I've used it a couple of times so I can't just really tell. |
| 16:12.18 | moshii | sparr: ah neat! right your own kernel :) |
| 16:12.36 | streuner | dpkg, no xorg7 is <reply> Find some soluation at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 in order to fix problems from 6.9 to 7 |
| 16:12.36 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
| 16:12.42 | scoates | yeah, kill -9 2925 leaves 2925 intact (in D state) |
| 16:12.54 | Braindead | ejofee: the point is: use deborphan to clean the system of unused libs and stop using plain apt |
| 16:12.59 | moshii | jsn: Running debootstrap on a 200mhz mips thing took about 2 and half hours here, imagine that on a 70mhz max ipod! heh |
| 16:13.14 | moshii | the ipod is dual core though, I think |
| 16:13.32 | jsn | moshii: don't know much about that, but the debian handhelds group has an ipkg (itsy pkg manager?) |
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| 16:13.46 | bliss1__ | abrotman: |
| 16:13.46 | bliss1__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.47 | moshii | sparr: i meant write your own kernel, not Right! your own kernel doh |
| 16:13.52 | streuner | dpkg, xorg7 =~ s/solation/solutions/ |
| 16:13.52 | dpkg | streuner: that doesn't contain 'solation' |
| 16:14.14 | sparr | heh |
| 16:14.24 | moshii | jsn: OpenWRT uses ipkg.. from what I know ipkg is meant to be a smallish dpkg clone |
| 16:14.25 | sparr | my SDL/opengl games cant resize the screen now |
| 16:14.28 | sparr | fun |
| 16:14.30 | streuner | dpkg, xorg7 =~ s/soluation/solutions/ |
| 16:14.30 | dpkg | streuner: OK |
| 16:14.48 | moshii | sparr: my SDL stuff gets xored with what's behind it, cool effects :) |
| 16:15.06 | kspath | isolation salutation solution |
| 16:15.17 | sparr | im going on vacation for a week or two in a few days |
| 16:15.20 | ifvoid | oh, and could anyone please put this wiki url in /topic ? |
| 16:15.22 | sparr | maybe this will all be fixed before i get back |
| 16:15.25 | jair | I am looking for a tutorial on the installation of a pcmcia wireless card from linksys on debian sarge stable? |
| 16:15.27 | ifvoid | (the Xorg upgrading one)? |
| 16:15.27 | abrotman | bliss1__: there are hundreds of other people to ask |
| 16:15.27 | Eulex | moshii & sparr, sdl never liked composite |
| 16:15.51 | streuner | ifvoid: dpkg, ops blah blah |
| 16:15.54 | abrotman | bliss1__: read the article .. says there are packages available for etch |
| 16:15.56 | scoates | http://scoates.pastebin.com/665209 kill, kill -> http://scoates.pastebin.com/665218 and now 2925 won't die. |
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| 16:16.01 | moshii | Eulex: makes the demo's I've written with sdl look cool though :) |
| 16:16.09 | Eulex | moshii, hehe :) |
| 16:16.12 | bliss1__ | abrotman yes there sorry to offend you |
| 16:16.16 | ifvoid | streuner: yeah, an op needs to do it, I guess |
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| 16:16.33 | streuner | ifvoid: yes, and you call one via !ops blah blah... |
| 16:16.39 | Eulex | ifvoid, http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 is linked to from http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable |
| 16:16.46 | abrotman | bliss1__: you didn't offend me .. but anyone probably could have answered your question |
| 16:16.56 | abrotman | maybe even streuner! |
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| 16:17.16 | ifvoid | Eulex: still, it would be nicer to have it a bit more visible |
| 16:17.21 | ifvoid | Eulex: lots of questions about it |
| 16:17.24 | Eulex | ifvoid, indeed |
| 16:17.27 | moshii | jair: find out what your card is and if it has a native driver, otherwise you need to research the ndiswrapper |
| 16:17.35 | ejofee | Braindead: since aptitude is so good, why do people still use apt-get install/remove? |
| 16:17.36 | ifvoid | !ops please add http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 to /topic |
| 16:17.36 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: please add http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 to /topic |
| 16:17.41 | bliss1__ | abrotman i am just a guide on the side not a sage on the stage |
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| 16:17.51 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
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| 16:18.01 | jaek | i am trying to manually install a package, but it depends on a now-defunct xlibs package... how can i make it ignore that dependency permanently? |
| 16:18.02 | Eulex | ifvoid, hmm... !ops is, like, more meant for emergencies |
| 16:18.04 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 16:18.04 | dpkg | well, qotd90 is <rituraj> which disks have probs? sata? <directhex|work> rituraj, whatever's in my laptop, and i've heard people with i915 desktops failing installation <jim> then buy a controller put it in the pci slot and be done with it <directhex|work> jim, what a fucking useless waste of time and money for all concerned <directhex|work> jim, and handily, there are hundreds of pci disk controllers for laptops, aren't there |
| 16:18.09 | abrotman | i thought we'd been told not to flag the ops to get a topic change |
| 16:18.13 | ifvoid | oh |
| 16:18.18 | ifvoid | uhm |
| 16:18.19 | ifvoid | well |
| 16:18.23 | ifvoid | too late now :( |
| 16:18.25 | abrotman | ifvoid: yeah .. probably don't do that again .. and don't call !ops ignore me! |
| 16:18.26 | jair | moshii, i have the linksys network pc wpc11 v.3 |
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| 16:18.48 | abrotman | ifvoid: you could also edit the StatusOfUnstable to point to it |
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| 16:18.51 | gravity | ifvoid: Check StatusOfUnstable |
| 16:18.55 | gravity | It already does have that link |
| 16:18.57 | LoRez | abrotman: ban 'em ;) |
| 16:18.58 | gravity | If you'd check the obvious |
| 16:19.14 | ifvoid | gravity: yeah, I know, but it would be helpful to have it a bit more visible |
| 16:19.20 | abrotman | LoRez: KILL! |
| 16:19.23 | moshii | jair: hmm I think that could be broadcom based? You need to google the name of your card and append linux or something |
| 16:19.27 | abrotman | gravity: it does? |
| 16:19.35 | abrotman | gravity: ah .. i see it now |
| 16:19.36 | Braindead | ejofee: they don't use aptitude because they don't know how powerful it is |
| 16:19.42 | stew | ifvoid: edit StatusOfUnstable and make it more prominent there |
| 16:19.53 | abrotman | USE BOLD! and CAPS! |
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| 16:20.09 | moshii | jair: There are a few routes for getting wireless cards working |
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| 16:20.57 | moshii | Braindead: you need to know how to use apt-get too for those times when aptitude goes mental though ;) |
| 16:20.59 | streuner | gravity: iam slow today |
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| 16:21.18 | streuner | gravity: (the topic changed without noticed...) |
| 16:21.26 | markit | any idea about how I can get info about my motherboard? like I can get info about cpu with cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:21.28 | Braindead | moshii: that does not make any differences,since the basics are the same: [apt-get|aptitude] install foo |
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| 16:21.30 | ifvoid | what does one have to do to get ops on #debian? |
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| 16:21.46 | jmp_me | markit: lspci |
| 16:21.48 | ifvoid | heh |
| 16:21.48 | Braindead | ifvoid: you must be 31337 |
| 16:21.50 | ifvoid | worng chan |
| 16:22.03 | gravity | streuner: :-) |
| 16:22.06 | moshii | Braindead: yes, but sometimes aptitude only offers "nuke all these shit" solutions to problems that apt handles sanely |
| 16:22.07 | ifvoid | Braindead: hah! I am VERY 31337! |
| 16:22.12 | gravity | It happens to me all the time too |
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| 16:22.31 | jair | moshii, I am researching on the internet and I being found a couple of tutorials but they are all using a different kernel 2.4.x and I have the 2.6.x |
| 16:22.38 | Braindead | moshii: nope,aptitude lets you examine his various solutions |
| 16:22.48 | markit | jmp_me: I mean, brand and model |
| 16:22.50 | Braindead | that's not my idea of "going mental" |
| 16:23.02 | markit | jmp_me: as often shown at BIOS post |
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| 16:23.49 | moshii | markit: should be written on the board |
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| 16:24.04 | moshii | jair: do you know what chipset the card uses? |
| 16:24.12 | Braindead | and btw those "solutions" are mostly needed on unstable,when there are broken dependencies. holding packages with apt can become a real pain in the ass,apt pinning|dpkg hold aren't as fast as "aptitude hold foo" |
| 16:24.28 | jair | moshii, chipset ??? ver.3 |
| 16:24.33 | Braindead | neither as practical |
| 16:25.05 | moshii | jair: Linksys made the card, but the guts that do the work are provided by someone else and that's what you need to get a driver for |
| 16:25.06 | markit | moshii: yes, the problem is I don't want to have to open the case... |
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| 16:25.28 | moshii | markit: press pause at the post screen and read it off |
| 16:26.00 | stew | markit: dmidecode |
| 16:26.02 | jair | moshii, hmm so i should look for a driver for Linux that will make this particular pcmcia card work. |
| 16:26.05 | markit | moshii: I want to be able to know without stop the PC |
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| 16:26.15 | markit | stew: I will have a look, thanks |
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| 16:27.05 | nullcode | what's the bootloader supported in debian ? |
| 16:27.10 | markit | stew: that works great, thanks a lot |
| 16:27.14 | nullcode | lilo works with it ? |
| 16:27.17 | nullcode | or should i install grub ? |
| 16:27.19 | markit | exactly what I was looking for |
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| 16:27.30 | moshii | nullcode: lilo and grub are supported |
| 16:27.35 | r4ng3r | hello |
| 16:27.42 | r4ng3r | can somebody help me? |
| 16:27.45 | Braindead | no. |
| 16:27.51 | r4ng3r | i want to install debian from a harddisk |
| 16:27.53 | jair | moshii, Get it: wget ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/linux-wlan-ng-latest-version.tar.gz I think this is it. |
| 16:27.57 | Braindead | as long as you don't read the topic |
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| 16:28.18 | r4ng3r | i make a ext3 partition format it and install grub |
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| 16:28.39 | moshii | jair: I think there are packages in debian for that |
| 16:28.45 | Braindead | r4ng3r: maybe you should use debootstrap |
| 16:28.59 | jair | hmmm |
| 16:29.00 | Braindead | jair: use module-assistant to compile wlan-ng drivers |
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| 16:29.29 | danpo | Since I've upgraded to X11R7 all my fonts are much bigger. I suppose this is caused by changing the driver from "nvidia" to "nv", but nevertheless I don't know how to change this. Does anyone know what to do? |
| 16:29.40 | spikex | whats module-assistant? |
| 16:29.43 | jair | Braindead, ohh ok. any I will check on the internet about it, I think that the model assistant comes with a couple of drivers for this stuff |
| 16:29.56 | moshii | spikex: builds kernel modules and packages them |
| 16:30.00 | Knezzen-G4 | hi everyone, i have "stupid" question |
| 16:30.06 | r4ng3r | i copy the vmlinuz and initrd file and edit the grub/menu.lst |
| 16:30.14 | moshii | spikex: used for stuff like the nvidia drivers and ndiswrapper |
| 16:30.22 | Alam_Debian | i tried to add a panel to gnome "task-bar" and now, App, System, and Desktop buttons are gone, how do I log out of a gnome session via a terminal? |
| 16:30.23 | r4ng3r | and copy the iso file to the harddisk |
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| 16:30.37 | r4ng3r | the installation starts but i get a error message |
| 16:30.39 | Knezzen-G4 | I want to install Unreal-IRCd+Anope irc services on my Macintosh quadra 800 running Debian Woody. |
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| 16:30.45 | Knezzen-G4 | How do i do this with apt-get? |
| 16:30.45 | ifvoid | Alam_Debian: ctrl-alt-bs |
| 16:30.57 | Shadowcat | with apt-get? |
| 16:30.58 | ifvoid | Alam_Debian: although that's not a clean "logout" |
| 16:30.59 | Knezzen-G4 | Compiling it from source would be hell |
| 16:30.59 | Shadowcat | wtf? |
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| 16:31.11 | Shadowcat | Knezzen-G4: I doubt that's even in Woody's apt |
| 16:31.17 | Shadowcat | and why exactly are you using woody? |
| 16:31.18 | Knezzen-G4 | Hum.... |
| 16:31.18 | Shadowcat | it's ancient |
| 16:31.20 | Knezzen-G4 | ok |
| 16:31.24 | Shadowcat | even by debian's standards |
| 16:31.31 | Knezzen-G4 | I only have a 1gb SCSI hd in the Quadra... |
| 16:31.39 | Braindead | Knezzen-G4: cross-compile it |
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| 16:31.42 | Knezzen-G4 | I had Potato on it before |
| 16:31.45 | Braindead | (good luck) |
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| 16:31.51 | Eulex | Knezzen-G4, unreal-ircd ain't in debian |
| 16:32.01 | moshii | quadra is m68k isn't it? |
| 16:32.01 | Knezzen-G4 | eh? |
| 16:32.04 | Knezzen-G4 | Yes |
| 16:32.08 | Knezzen-G4 | 33mhz 68040 |
| 16:32.11 | Eulex | Knezzen-G4, neither is anope, whatever that is |
| 16:32.17 | Shadowcat | hah an ircd on a 33mhz box |
| 16:32.17 | Knezzen-G4 | IRC services |
| 16:32.19 | moshii | hmm compiling on an 040 shouldn |
| 16:32.20 | Shadowcat | are you freaking insane? |
| 16:32.28 | moshii | 't be bad .. ;) |
| 16:32.30 | Knezzen-G4 | Im currently running it under FreeBSD on my Athlon 1.4ghz |
| 16:32.39 | Braindead | leave it right there... |
| 16:32.48 | Braindead | or,as I told ya CROSS COMPILE it |
| 16:32.48 | jair | moshii, and Braindead thanks you |
| 16:32.48 | Knezzen-G4 | Why? |
| 16:32.56 | Knezzen-G4 | I have Apache, PHP and MySQL on it |
| 16:32.57 | jair | you guys show me the right path |
| 16:32.59 | r4ng3r | every time i get the error message failed to load installer component |
| 16:33.02 | Knezzen-G4 | works great |
| 16:33.06 | moshii | Knezzen-G4: compile it on the athlon box |
| 16:33.14 | Eulex | Knezzen-G4, speedblue.org |
| 16:33.19 | Knezzen-G4 | ok |
| 16:33.24 | r4ng3r | Loading libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting. |
| 16:33.25 | Knezzen-G4 | so, if i install Sarge.... |
| 16:33.31 | Knezzen-G4 | Can i do this with it? |
| 16:33.50 | Eulex | do what? |
| 16:33.53 | moshii | Eulex: that's a good site, shame it only has linux toolchains |
| 16:33.58 | Knezzen-G4 | apt-get unreal-ircd |
| 16:34.02 | Knezzen-G4 | And Anope |
| 16:34.05 | Eulex | moshii, indeed |
| 16:34.15 | Braindead | Knezzen-G4: it is NOT in debian whatsoever. is it clear? |
| 16:34.22 | JoshH | anyone here speak romainian? I'm trying to find out what "incerc sa fac legatura" means in english |
| 16:34.23 | Knezzen-G4 | Aha, ok |
| 16:34.30 | Knezzen-G4 | Sorry, im new to debian |
| 16:34.38 | r4ng3r | the "harddisk" installation starts and i get the follow error message: Loading libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting. |
| 16:34.39 | Knezzen-G4 | Have used BSD for 10 years or so |
| 16:34.44 | r4ng3r | can sb help me plz |
| 16:34.56 | Braindead | r4ng3r: can't you just use debootstrap? |
| 16:34.58 | kspath | JoshH: Try using a dictionary? |
| 16:35.14 | JoshH | tried using some translators, but they all sucked |
| 16:35.18 | r4ng3r | debootstrap? |
| 16:35.19 | kspath | !t3ll r4ng3r about ask |
| 16:35.25 | r4ng3r | what is it? |
| 16:35.29 | r4ng3r | !t3ll |
| 16:35.31 | Braindead | r4ng3r: you're telling us where YOUR solution breaks. you did not tell us the problem |
| 16:35.34 | kspath | !tell r4ng3r about ask |
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| 16:36.00 | Eulex | r4ng3r, and why aren't you just booting off the sarge installer cd? |
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| 16:36.34 | Braindead | and btw if someone tells you "you could use foo" search the fine web for the word "FOO" before saying anything |
| 16:36.40 | Hagfish | anyone managed to get their linux machine to simulate a commercial VPN server? |
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| 16:36.47 | r4ng3r | it is a notebook without a ide cd |
| 16:36.52 | ifvoid | Hagfish: "simulate a commercial vpn server" |
| 16:36.58 | ifvoid | what's that supposed to mean? |
| 16:37.09 | Eulex | r4ng3r, so, use floppies or debootstrap. |
| 16:37.17 | Hagfish | err, i have a mobile which is designed to connect to various commercial vpn servers |
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| 16:37.29 | Hagfish | i want my machine to pretend to be one |
| 16:37.32 | ifvoid | ? |
| 16:37.41 | Hagfish | use the correct protocol |
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| 16:37.45 | ifvoid | can't you just install openvpn on it? |
| 16:37.49 | Braindead | Hagfish: and you don't know WHICH soft it is. just that's "commercial" |
| 16:37.59 | r4ng3r | i ve no floppy drive |
| 16:37.59 | Braindead | a bit vague,you know |
| 16:38.00 | Hagfish | oh, there's a long list |
| 16:38.06 | Hagfish | do you want me to write all of them? |
| 16:38.24 | Hagfish | nortel, cisco, cisco unity, check point, lucent, intel, netscreen |
| 16:38.26 | Hagfish | one of those |
| 16:38.31 | Eulex | r4ng3r, use debootstrap then. |
| 16:38.58 | ifvoid | Hagfish: it'll probably support PPTP/MPPE |
| 16:39.11 | Braindead | brrr |
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| 16:39.17 | r4ng3r | how can use debootstrap? |
| 16:39.22 | jmp_me | Hagfish: sniff the traffic you want to simulate and save it. then match your incoming traffic to that |
| 16:39.25 | kspath | Hagfish: some of those might have patented some OBVIOUS tech and therefore you might have trouble finding something that acts EXACTLY like them. |
| 16:39.26 | Eulex | !debootstrap |
| 16:39.27 | dpkg | debootstrap is probably <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html |
| 16:39.28 | Guerin | r4ng3r: man debootstrap |
| 16:39.40 | ifvoid | Hagfish: but what so you mean by that it's "designed" for these vpns? |
| 16:39.45 | bliss1__ | what is the url for internet install for the latest etch package i386 |
| 16:39.48 | evaded | Hi guys, I try to compile 'wmpower-0.4.2' for my laptop, to get an eye on the temperature of the CPU. While i compile it's stops and say 'checking X11/xpm.h usability... no' I need to install an thing more i guess. Know you what? Im not an expert in compiling, its the 5x max i do it |
| 16:39.50 | Kraig | hmm... when i dpkg-reconfigure modutils i get update-modules: command not found, and i can only find update-modules.modutils, how can i solve this? |
| 16:39.51 | spikex | hi |
| 16:40.08 | Hagfish | ifvoid: the phone has settings for those types of VPN built in |
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| 16:40.17 | Eulex | bliss1__, iyhtays. get sarge. |
| 16:40.17 | ifvoid | oh, mobile phone |
| 16:40.17 | Hagfish | lets you configure a few things |
| 16:40.21 | Hagfish | sorry, yes |
| 16:40.24 | ifvoid | I thought laptop ;) |
| 16:40.26 | Eulex | !d-i bliss1__ |
| 16:40.26 | dpkg | bliss1__, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 16:40.28 | astronut | is it better to upgrade to x11r7 now or wait a bit for bugs to be smoothed out? |
| 16:40.36 | factor | ifvoid:thanks that link helped out a lot |
| 16:40.36 | Eulex | astronut, wait. |
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| 16:40.51 | Kraig | yeah, wait... |
| 16:40.58 | Hagfish | ifvoid: i'm hoping there's some sort of simplified compatibility mode it supports in there |
| 16:41.00 | bliss1__ | dpkg; yes sir |
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| 16:41.11 | Eulex | dpkg, what are you? |
| 16:41.12 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 16:41.13 | ifvoid | Hagfish: hmm |
| 16:41.16 | Hagfish | and then i get openvpn to act like one of those servers, and accept connections from the phone |
| 16:41.26 | ifvoid | Hagfish: well, openvpn won't work |
| 16:41.27 | stew | dpkg: debootstrap is also, becuase base-config was removed from testing/unstable, in order to debootstrap testing/unstable from sarge you should install sid's debootstrap. and see the --second-stage option in debootstrap(1) |
| 16:41.27 | dpkg | ...but debootstrap is already something else... |
| 16:41.30 | ifvoid | that;s for sure |
| 16:41.31 | Braindead | Hagfish: openvpn well...it's openvpn |
| 16:41.36 | stew | is also... |
| 16:41.37 | Hagfish | ifvoid: why not? |
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| 16:41.46 | ifvoid | but as I said, PPTP is fairly standard in the windows world |
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| 16:42.04 | mins | hello |
| 16:42.06 | streuner | stew: use dpkg, no blah blah |
| 16:42.07 | ifvoid | Hagfish: because openvpn uses its own protocol |
| 16:42.13 | ifvoid | Hagfish: while you need something else |
| 16:42.19 | Hagfish | right |
| 16:42.24 | mins | I have some question. |
| 16:42.35 | ifvoid | Hagfish: I think pppd can do it, in combination with a recent (>2.6.13) kernel |
| 16:42.38 | Hagfish | surely windows uses its own protocol too, which is different from nortel / cisco / whoever |
| 16:42.42 | stew | streuner: any idea why "is also" didn't work there, though? |
| 16:42.57 | Hagfish | 2.6.15-1-k7 |
| 16:42.59 | mins | I would like to set HZ number at 20000. |
| 16:43.04 | ifvoid | Hagfish: but I've never set up something like that |
| 16:43.04 | streuner | stew: no, but sometimes the bot just don't wanna work ;-) |
| 16:43.17 | stew | streuner: dang lazy bots |
| 16:43.24 | mins | However, when I compiled, It occurs compile errors. |
| 16:43.25 | Hagfish | ifvoid: i think i've confused myself by googling |
| 16:43.35 | ifvoid | Hagfish: no, but PPTP/MPPE is the only thing windows supports out of the box |
| 16:43.35 | Hagfish | ifvoid: there are VPN servers and clients, right? |
| 16:43.37 | Eulex | mindbob, bwahahaha. whhy? |
| 16:43.39 | mins | How can I fix it? |
| 16:43.45 | ifvoid | so that;s probably what these commercial servers will spport |
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| 16:43.50 | Hagfish | ah i see |
| 16:43.52 | kspath | Hagfish: apt-cache search vpm |
| 16:43.54 | kspath | Hagfish: apt-cache search vpn |
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| 16:44.06 | Eulex | mins, in the kernel? or in what? |
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| 16:44.20 | mins | HZ values in /include/asm-i386/param.h |
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| 16:44.27 | mins | kernel 2.6 |
| 16:44.31 | Hagfish | so i would install some sort of server which acts as a gateway, and anything on my side of that gateway is unencrypted? |
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| 16:44.39 | Eulex | mins, I doubt you can do that. why would you want to, btw? |
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| 16:44.45 | Braindead | 20000 hz? what's the point in that? |
| 16:45.01 | Braindead | extreme ricing... |
| 16:45.03 | ifvoid | Hagfish: yeah |
| 16:45.14 | Eulex | Braindead, indeed |
| 16:45.16 | mins | HZ is interrupt rates. |
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| 16:45.35 | Hagfish | and i could connect to 192.168.0.5 on the phone as if it was the internet |
| 16:45.37 | mins | I want to increase interrupt rates up to 20000 |
| 16:45.44 | Hagfish | ifvoid: right, all making sense, thank you |
| 16:45.45 | Braindead | yup. what for? |
| 16:45.46 | Guerin | i want a pony |
| 16:45.46 | Eulex | mins, indeed, but once again: why? |
| 16:45.51 | Hagfish | i'll look into pptp |
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| 16:46.02 | unknown__ | !bootlog |
| 16:46.02 | dpkg | /etc/default/bootlogd now defaults to "no". Edit that to get your /var/log/boot file back. For more info, see bugs.debian.org/213028, or not a command (opposed to dmesg) |
| 16:46.18 | mins | There are many other parameters to modity. |
| 16:46.30 | ifvoid | Hagfish: you need something like this, I guess http://www.poptop.org/ |
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| 16:46.54 | mins | And the problem is that I don't know what parameters should I fix |
| 16:47.26 | evaded | I have paste the output of it on http://pastebin.com/665287. I try to install 'wmpower-0.4.2' |
| 16:47.56 | mins | When I set HZ as 20000, HZ in tcp.c source also should modify. |
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| 16:48.17 | Eulex | mins, iyhtays |
| 16:48.19 | evaded | Why te bootlog are default desactivated?? It's greate to have boot info. Possible i have miss ^^ here somethings, im been connected for some minutes nom |
| 16:48.32 | evaded | s/nom/now |
| 16:48.35 | twobitsprite | wouldn't it technically be against debian policy to have firefox in the main repos due to the fact that firefox promotes a for-profit corporation (google)? |
| 16:48.44 | Braindead | gosh |
| 16:48.45 | Braindead | .. |
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| 16:49.08 | nse | do not take firefox out of my debian! |
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| 16:49.23 | stew | twobitsprite: which policy do you think it violates? |
| 16:49.36 | Braindead | firefox? let's spread the meme: http://www.firefoxflicks.com/flick/index.php?id=19542& |
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| 16:49.42 | twobitsprite | stew: I thought debian had a policy against promoting corporations? |
| 16:49.46 | ifvoid | twobitsprite: why would promoting google be against debian policy? |
| 16:49.53 | kspath | stew: apparently something about promotion or profit it appears. |
| 16:49.55 | ifvoid | or promoting microsoft, for that matter? |
| 16:49.57 | Braindead | because they are DE DEBBIL |
| 16:50.01 | evaded | My problem when i compile an application is 'checking X11/xpm.h usability... no' That no part. What i need to get that 'xpm.h'?? |
| 16:50.14 | Braindead | evaded: apt-file is your friend |
| 16:50.17 | Eulex | evaded, xpm dev stuff |
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| 16:50.32 | ifvoid | twobitsprite: what makes you think that? |
| 16:50.37 | kspath | twobitsprite: Do you know what a corporation is? Do you know what a non-profit is? |
| 16:50.43 | jlmb | I'm trying to install a tfpd server by compiling inetutils-1.4.2 (testing purposes only). I have succesfully configured and compiled. When I run it (sudo ./tftpd /etc) nothing happens and $? = 1 . What am I missing? |
| 16:50.47 | ifvoid | twobitsprite: Debian is about Free (as in Freedom) Software |
| 16:50.53 | ifvoid | nothing to do with Free Beer |
| 16:50.54 | twobitsprite | kspath: I specified at the beginning "for-profit" |
| 16:51.27 | dark_ | how can i verify how was set up the NIS server? (e.g. see the nis configuration file) |
| 16:51.28 | Guerin | twobitsprite: a bunch of free software is made by for-profit companies. No conflitct whatsoever with debian policy. |
| 16:51.29 | kspath | twobitsprite: "<twobitsprite> stew: I thought debian had a policy against promoting corporations?" |
| 16:51.30 | Braindead | define "promotion". in which way firefox promotes it? |
| 16:51.54 | ifvoid | Braindead: even if it would be promaoting it, what's wrong with that? |
| 16:52.05 | twobitsprite | Braindead: firefox has it's default search, and its default home page set to google |
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| 16:52.13 | ifvoid | twobitsprite: so? |
| 16:52.35 | Braindead | I want ffox homepage with pr0n on default |
| 16:52.40 | ifvoid | hehe |
| 16:52.57 | jsn | um, google is a corporation, would it be AOK if the default homepage was Bechtel instead? |
| 16:53.02 | twobitsprite | it just seems to be against the debian spirit, even if it's not in the policy. What about alternative web-searches? I know you can add extentions, but to favor one by making it the default seems to be a bit stiffling for competition |
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| 16:53.16 | stew | twobitsprite: if they had put language in the source/license which prvented you from changing this, then debian would have a problem with that, but you have the freedom to change firefox to get rid of google if you wish |
| 16:54.14 | ifvoid | anyone can change it to whatever she likes |
| 16:54.14 | ifvoid | that's the only thing that matters |
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| 16:54.15 | ifvoid | twobitsprite: and why would it be against the bediab spirit? |
| 16:54.39 | twobitsprite | hmm... maybe debian should remove the google default then... |
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| 16:54.51 | stew | twobitsprite: how would that be of service to its users? |
| 16:55.11 | kspath | twobitsprite: You could just not install firefox on your systems? |
| 16:55.20 | ifvoid | twobitsprite: why?! |
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| 16:55.34 | twobitsprite | because google is evil |
| 16:55.36 | obscuresoul | everytime i run the lpadmin command i obtain this message "lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused"...what's happenin'? |
| 16:55.42 | ifvoid | google is evil? |
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| 16:55.53 | kspath | twobitsprite: I like other search engines and other browsers and all of them have options I change from default immediately. |
| 16:56.06 | twobitsprite | http://www.google-watch.org/ |
| 16:56.23 | ifvoid | well, then don't use it |
| 16:56.37 | kspath | twobitsprite: Have you considered that others would rather use their free resources? |
| 16:56.53 | twobitsprite | kspath: their = google's? |
| 16:56.59 | ifvoid | ug, that page is _UGLY_ |
| 16:57.19 | twobitsprite | ifvoid: well... the content is very informative |
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| 16:57.39 | ifvoid | ah, and also Wikipedia is EVIL |
| 16:57.44 | ifvoid | according to that page' |
| 16:57.52 | ifvoid | what a ton of crap |
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| 16:58.59 | kspath | I think GUIs are an evil but I would NEVER imagine that any distribution would remove them but rather fork a commandline/curses based distro. |
| 16:59.01 | twobitsprite | ifvoid: well... there have been a lot of shady things on wikipedia... don't shut it out just because you're dogmatically convinced that it's a "good thing" |
| 16:59.27 | ifvoid | "Wikipedia is evil, because they generate content and spammers use that" |
| 16:59.31 | ifvoid | HOW EVIL INDEED!!!! |
| 16:59.40 | ifvoid | givign away free articles! |
| 16:59.41 | twobitsprite | kspath: I'm not sure how you would argue the a user interface style could have ethical considerations... quite a bit different than what I'm talking about |
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| 16:59.56 | kspath | twobitsprite: Is it? |
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| 17:00.08 | stew | twobitsprite: ifvoid: this is now getting a bit off-topic and not looking to be productive |
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| 17:00.22 | ifvoid | stew: yeha, you're right |
| 17:00.37 | ifvoid | twobitsprite: anyway, it's not again debian policy |
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| 17:01.44 | stew | twobitsprite: the answer about your question relating to debian policy is that there is no such policy, /msg dpkg policy ; /msg dpkg sc ; feel free to submit a wishlist bug to firefox to see what the maintainer says, /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 17:01.45 | simone | hi there! |
| 17:01.50 | kspath | twobitsprite: Most IRC channels have policies that try to keep a channel on topic. |
| 17:02.00 | simone | I need help to recover lost partitions on an external hard drive... anybody can help? |
| 17:02.08 | kurtak | so, i think i need some help to resolve an apt install problem. tried to install one library, it said it wouldn't b/c xfree86-common needs x11-common. then i try to install x11-common and i get an error from dpkg saying this: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/Xsession.options', which is also in package xfree86-common dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed b |
| 17:02.08 | kurtak | y signal (Broken pipe) |
| 17:02.37 | kurtak | any hints on how to resolve this one?? |
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| 17:03.23 | gravity | kurtak: Are you upgrading xfree86-common to the 6.9 version also? |
| 17:03.26 | gravity | kurtak: You need to do so |
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| 17:04.14 | CukX | where can I disable starting X server at boot ? |
| 17:04.22 | gravity | CukX: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 17:04.23 | Guerin | CukX: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 17:04.24 | CukX | debian is 3.1 |
| 17:04.30 | kurtak | gravity: i'm not sure to what version xfree86-common is being upgraded to. do i just do apt-get upgrade xfree86-common? |
| 17:04.42 | gravity | kurtak: I don't know what you're even doing |
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| 17:04.49 | gravity | kurtak: Are you updating from stable to testing? |
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| 17:05.19 | stew | kurtak: no "apt-get install xfree86-common" would upgrade it, "apt-get upgrade" does not take a list of pacakges |
| 17:05.36 | kurtak | gravity: just trying to resolve a conflict that brings me to the x11-common package. i wanted to upgrade libxft2 in the first place |
| 17:05.41 | ged | has anyone here had any luck configuring exim4/mutt with gmail? |
| 17:05.49 | gravity | kurtak: What are you running? Testing? |
| 17:05.57 | gravity | kurtak: Some weird mix of testing and stable? |
| 17:06.03 | kurtak | gravity: a couple days ago i did apt-get upgrade. i'm using testing, yes |
| 17:06.37 | gravity | kurtak: What version of xfree86-common do you have installed? |
| 17:06.47 | gravity | It sounds like your upgrade didn't complete |
| 17:06.52 | jsn | The WikiTruth.info anti-wiki page is upset that a page on a male, underage, self-promoting porn star was taken down. |
| 17:07.03 | CukX | gravity Guerin tnx... |
| 17:07.05 | jsn | sorry, slashdot |
| 17:07.27 | ifvoid | jsn: hehe |
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| 17:07.54 | kurtak | gravity: xfree86 4.3.0.1 |
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| 17:08.33 | gravity | kurtak: Yeah, your upgrade didn't complete for some reason |
| 17:08.39 | krassy1809 | How i can run a USB video camera ? |
| 17:08.50 | gravity | kurtak: You need to get version of that package matching the version of x11-common you're looking to install |
| 17:09.07 | kurtak | gravity: oh, that's xfree86, the package version is 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 |
| 17:09.29 | nullcode | what's the kernel of sarge ? |
| 17:09.31 | nullcode | 2.4 ? |
| 17:09.33 | gravity | kurtak: xfree86-common is 6.9.0? |
| 17:09.41 | gravity | That doesn't make sense at all |
| 17:10.03 | kurtak | gravity: dpkg -l shows that its status is iU |
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| 17:10.38 | gravity | Something is wrong |
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| 17:10.57 | kurtak | gravity: yes, the update didn't finish cleanly |
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| 17:11.01 | gravity | Ok |
| 17:11.16 | kurtak | gravity: it basically ended on this error that i was reporting earlier |
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| 17:11.59 | kurtak | gravity: so do you have hints on how to finish the upgrade? |
| 17:12.01 | gravity | kurtak: Ok, well I've got to go |
| 17:12.06 | kurtak | ok |
| 17:12.08 | gravity | kurtak: I'm not sure. This should resolve automatically |
| 17:12.39 | gravity | Anyway, good luck |
| 17:13.20 | kurtak | Anyone know how i can fix my upgrade that couldn't finish due to some problem w/ x11-common? |
| 17:13.42 | grendal_prime | is there some sort of app that sort of idiotproofs the process of identifying and setting up hotplug itmes. (ie....usb mass storage devices and the like) |
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| 17:14.48 | bizkit | grendal_prime: apt-cache search usb hotplug |
| 17:15.01 | grendal_prime | i knotices several of the other "desktopish" distros seem to just set something up. the other tech here is well trying to learn but i figured if there was something that made that aspect a little easyer it might push him in the debian direction |
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| 17:15.57 | krassy1809 | What is the problem - nothing hapends when i connect a usb device is this normal ? |
| 17:16.06 | bizkit | grendal_prime: package 'discover' is good, too |
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| 17:16.22 | bizkit | krassy1809: nothing in dmesg? |
| 17:16.28 | grendal_prime | ya but they still require that you make fstab entrys done they? |
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| 17:16.50 | grendal_prime | krassy1809, you expecting something to pop up and tell you what it is? |
| 17:17.11 | grendal_prime | or does the system already know what it is and its not working like normal? |
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| 17:17.29 | prudhvi | !ntfs |
| 17:17.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
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| 17:18.04 | krassy1809 | i don`t now it is my first connect usb devicein debian |
| 17:18.53 | grendal_prime | that answers that question |
| 17:18.59 | grendal_prime | what is the device? |
| 17:19.15 | krassy1809 | bizkit:in dmesg system say----- usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using address 3 |
| 17:19.51 | nullcode | which should i choose in the Partitioning Menu ? |
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| 17:19.56 | pharm | what does lsusb say? |
| 17:20.11 | nullcode | i have an IDE hdd |
| 17:20.33 | krassy1809 | nonexpensive USB camera-how i can use ? |
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| 17:20.58 | nullcode | LVM ? RAID ? SCSI ? |
| 17:21.01 | nullcode | i can't find IDE |
| 17:21.15 | grendal_prime | ewww...umm quickcam express by chance? |
| 17:21.32 | bizkit | !usbstorage |
| 17:21.32 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
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| 17:26.54 | Astral_Projectio | can comeone help me with ATI card? |
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| 17:26.59 | krassy1809 | bizkit: the device is USB camera i think - no need to mount anything |
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| 17:27.14 | tralala | Astral_Projectio: /msg dpkg ati driver |
| 17:27.25 | krassy1809 | bizkit: or i am on wrong way ? |
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| 17:27.29 | Astral_Projectio | no no |
| 17:27.32 | Astral_Projectio | I have ATI driver |
| 17:27.40 | Astral_Projectio | but when I start KDM (Login screen) |
| 17:27.50 | Astral_Projectio | it is in 1920x1080 resolution |
| 17:28.03 | Astral_Projectio | and that resolution is nowhere in XF86Config-4 |
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| 17:29.11 | Astral_Projectio | any1? :) |
| 17:29.11 | bizkit | krassy1809: so it is no usb storage device? most cameras use this kind of storage, even most mp3players and so on. however, there are some models which use their own protocol instead. with some luck gphoto2 can help you, google for it and have a look at the supported devices table |
| 17:29.11 | shogunx | Astral_Projectio, is it in xorg.conf? |
| 17:29.13 | tralala | Astral_Projectio: I guess it is autodetected. There must be a way to instruct X not to use autodetected resolutions, but I've never done it so far. |
| 17:29.16 | Eulex | Astral_Projectio, take a look at you X log in /var/log |
| 17:29.38 | Astral_Projectio | X log says that resolution is 1152x864 (my def. resolution) |
| 17:29.51 | Astral_Projectio | does it have to do with EDID? |
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| 17:30.15 | Eulex | Astral_Projectio, take a deeper look at the X log. also, are you really running xfree86? |
| 17:30.26 | Astral_Projectio | yes |
| 17:30.28 | Astral_Projectio | xf86 4.3 |
| 17:30.32 | Astral_Projectio | sarge default |
| 17:30.40 | k31th | guys im going to build some thing from source with apt i can install all the deps cant i then just do the source install ? |
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| 17:31.06 | maher | k31th: using the packaging tools makes it easy to remove things |
| 17:31.32 | k31th | maher: i want the latest version of kino and another app there is no packages |
| 17:31.59 | k31th | well there is a package but its older |
| 17:32.03 | k31th | i need the latest |
| 17:32.45 | maher | k31th: is the unstable version too old for you? |
| 17:32.51 | Astral_Projectio | what is with "Virtual" option under Screen section in config file? |
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| 17:33.05 | k31th | maher: its build deps |
| 17:33.15 | k31th | maher: wont install bunch of deps it needs. |
| 17:33.19 | limpio | k31th, i think you need to install build-essential and checkinstall |
| 17:33.22 | ILF_ | unstable: "/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" :( |
| 17:33.31 | maher | k31th: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 17:33.51 | k31th | maher: its ok build-dep sorted it all out |
| 17:34.01 | ged | i've configured exim4 to send mail through gmail, but how do i recieve it? |
| 17:34.02 | maher | ILF_: unstable xorg is brokenish |
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| 17:34.33 | maher | ged: gmail does pop? |
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| 17:34.50 | Eulex | maher, indeed |
| 17:34.50 | k31th | maher: I wont repeat what im running in this channel as ill probly get thrown out, lets just say im installing this for a friend |
| 17:34.51 | ged | maher: yup |
| 17:34.57 | maher | ged: try fetchmail or something |
| 17:35.08 | ged | maher, doesn't exim4 recieve mail? |
| 17:35.19 | maher | ged: via smtp not pop |
| 17:35.34 | k31th | maher: as a rule I always use packages |
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| 17:35.39 | Eulex | ILF_, is libxp6 installed? |
| 17:35.51 | ged | maher, smtp is for sending mail |
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| 17:37.10 | ged | ok. |
| 17:37.23 | ged | so to receive mail, do i need a seperate application or can i use exim4? |
| 17:37.34 | dondelelcaro | ged: exim4 will do that. |
| 17:37.36 | js_ | exim will receive mail |
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| 17:37.44 | dondelelcaro | or sendmail or postfix or... |
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| 17:37.55 | maher | ged: exim receives mail by smtp - i don't think gmail will send you mail by smtp but maybe i'm wrong |
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| 17:38.13 | ged | smtp is for sending mail |
| 17:38.14 | yos87 | Hi, |
| 17:38.19 | ged | you recieve mail by pop |
| 17:38.34 | dondelelcaro | ged: you can receive mail by smtp too |
| 17:38.46 | maher | ged: if you send by smtp surely the person at the other end recieves by smtp... |
| 17:38.48 | dondelelcaro | ged: the question is whether or not you're running your own MX server. |
| 17:39.14 | ged | hmm i am a bit confused. |
| 17:39.26 | yos87 | How to play the windows media player plugins in the browser? |
| 17:39.34 | ged | should i install fetchmail to handle recieving mail? |
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| 17:39.48 | lepton | ged: I wouldn't |
| 17:40.00 | dondelelcaro | ged: mail goes from server to server by SMTP. You can collect it from a server using POP, IMAP, etc. If you want to pull mail off of a server, you need fetchmail or some MUA that supports pop or imap. |
| 17:40.23 | bizkit | ged: fetchmail won't receive mails, it will fetch them from an imap/pop account and forward them to your local mta |
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| 17:40.51 | bizkit | or procmail, your mda.. however.. |
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| 17:41.20 | patrick_ | Anyone know what e2fsck -c's normal output is? I get 'done' and then '736'. That doesn't mean 736 bad blocks, does it? |
| 17:41.24 | lepton | "explain how email works in 50 words or less" ... good luck |
| 17:41.45 | ILF_ | Eulex: yes |
| 17:42.41 | bengrubb | email from a 2 b... |
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| 17:42.47 | bengrubb | done |
| 17:43.04 | philips | What does "BROKEN" mean in aptitude? x11-common is installed. Also note the strange dependency on mgp. http://pastebin.com/665433 |
| 17:43.39 | dondelelcaro | philips: it's a conflicts. |
| 17:43.46 | ged | so the MTA is exim4 |
| 17:43.47 | patrick_ | Anyone |
| 17:43.54 | ged | the MUA is mutt |
| 17:43.57 | ged | ? |
| 17:44.03 | bengrubb | well lepton when you send your mail it goes tou your ISP's DNS and that DNS check for a mail record blah blah |
| 17:44.16 | philips | dondelelcaro: How do you mean? x11-common conflicts with mgp? |
| 17:44.19 | bengrubb | sorry i just joined |
| 17:44.23 | bengrubb | whats happening |
| 17:44.27 | dondelelcaro | philips: mgp depends on the wrong location of fonts and/or binaries in the 7.0 x11-common |
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| 17:44.52 | dondelelcaro | philips: so the current version of x11-common conflicts with it; mgp cannot be installed until that bug is fixed, presumably. |
| 17:45.04 | bizkit | ged: yes |
| 17:45.09 | philips | dondelelcaro: ahhh, ok. So I suppose this is just a wait for the dev to fix bug or should I file one? |
| 17:45.24 | dondelelcaro | philips: there should be a bug against mgp already, but I don't see it. |
| 17:45.26 | ged | so what's the acrnoym for fetchmail? lol |
| 17:45.39 | ged | *acronym |
| 17:45.41 | stew | ged: mda |
| 17:45.44 | philips | dondelelcaro: yep, me neither. |
| 17:46.29 | dondelelcaro | philips: you can file the bug; it should probably severity serious. See Steve Langasek's announcement on d-d-a for what exactly is going on there. |
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| 17:47.06 | philips | !d-d-a |
| 17:47.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, d-d-a is debian-devel-announce, the list that major Debian developments are posted to. It's less than one message a day, so Testing and Sid users have no excuse not to be on it and read it. Sign up at http://lists.debian.org/ |
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| 17:47.49 | ged | mutt doesn't work with exim4 by default, does it? |
| 17:47.54 | obscuresoul | i've installed cupsys and when i try to access to http://localhost:631/admin it asks me for the username and password...but i didn't set them...how can i solve this? |
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| 17:48.44 | stew | obscuresoul: check /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian |
| 17:48.51 | patrick_ | Anyone know what e2fsck -c's normal output is? I get 'done' and then '736'. That doesn't mean 736 bad blocks, does it? |
| 17:49.12 | sparr | can anyone recommend a cheap mp3 player that functions as a linux-friendly usb-storage device that i could find at a local store? something walmart or target or best buy would carry. |
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| 17:50.20 | bizkit | sparr: nearly every one which has "works on windows xp without any drivers!" on top of its box |
| 17:50.23 | obscuresoul | stew, tks ;) |
| 17:51.33 | jsn | I saw the wal-mart movie a couple days ago. Different than I expected. It even compares Bill Gates IV very, very favorably to the Waltons, who are entirely non-philanthropic with their 10s of billions each. |
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| 17:52.24 | bizkit | sparr: and if its win98 compatible without extra drivers, you can be sure its an usb storage with a fat filesystem on it, works fine on linux |
| 17:52.34 | jsn | The movie involves interviewing and filming wal-mart factories in China for a little bit. Wal-Mart needs people not to see this movie. |
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| 17:53.46 | sparr | bizkit: ok, lets get more specific :) |
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| 17:53.53 | sparr | how about one that plays ogg too? |
| 17:54.00 | DeltaLima | hellp |
| 17:54.03 | DeltaLima | hello |
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| 17:55.19 | bizkit | sparr: whatever it can play.. ogg vorbis, windows media files.. doesn't care. the type of storage and the default filesystem on it is the point, not which codecs the player has built-in |
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| 17:55.37 | patrick_ | Anyone know what e2fsck -c's normal output is? I get 'done' and then '736'. That doesn't mean 736 bad blocks, does it? |
| 17:56.03 | sparr | bizkit: err, what? if it cant play oggs then i cant play oggs with it, thats kinda an important feature |
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| 17:56.45 | tuv | can i use d-i netinst cd to scan my root partition? |
| 17:57.01 | philips | dondelelcaro: oops, it looks like the X team was going to take care of filing bugs against http://ftp-master.debian.org/~vorlon/x11-common-conflicts-unstable.txt |
| 17:58.25 | sparr | tuv: for cooties? |
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| 17:58.31 | abrotman | tuv: you mean fsck ? |
| 17:59.25 | tuv | yup |
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| 17:59.44 | abrotman | not sure .. but any liveCD should be able to .. there are tons of really small ones |
| 17:59.49 | tuv | sparr, what are cooties? |
| 18:00.09 | abrotman | tuv: should be easy to try .. boot it .. switch to tty2 or 3 or whatever .. and try to fsck |
| 18:00.19 | abrotman | tuv: an american term for icky things |
| 18:00.49 | abrotman | tuv: it's slang .. |
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| 18:01.22 | sparr | tuv: something you might scan your root partition for |
| 18:01.30 | dondelelcaro | philips: right, but if you beat them to it, it's fine. |
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| 18:02.49 | zenwryly | I'm looking for a video or movie player that has good fullscreen single key controls, as in not Control or Alt key combinations. noatun has not fullscreen controls I have found. The list of players seems quite long, I'd love some recommendations if anyone has any? |
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| 18:03.44 | Kraig | xine-ui is pretty good imho |
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| 18:04.35 | zenwryly | Kraig: thank |
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| 18:04.54 | tuv | zenwryly, mplayer is the best |
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| 18:05.31 | zenwryly | tuv: excellent, I'll try that too |
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| 18:05.45 | Kraig | yeah no complains about mplayer ;) |
| 18:05.52 | plb | in xorg7 which pkg contains xorgconfig? |
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| 18:07.17 | tuv | can a surface disk scan (badblocks) result in loosing data? |
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| 18:07.32 | eXiSt | hi |
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| 18:07.36 | plb | which command searchs the contents of packages again? |
| 18:07.48 | zenwryly | tuv: Do you use the official apt sources to get mplayer, or is there another source you prefer? |
| 18:07.51 | nkuttler | plb: /msg dpkg search |
| 18:07.57 | eXiSt | who can help me about ip route and fail over router on debian |
| 18:08.02 | tuv | zenwryly, /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 18:08.17 | tuv | zenwryly, /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 18:08.47 | obscuresoul | how can i add a group to a user? |
| 18:08.51 | zenwryly | tuv: thanks again |
| 18:09.00 | tuv | zenwryly, np |
| 18:09.14 | Alver | hello. After upgrading to Xorg 7, I can't start games anymore - Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 18:09.17 | stew | obscuresoul: adduser user group |
| 18:09.36 | streuner | Alver: read /topic |
| 18:09.39 | plb | Alver: happen to know which pkg in xorg 7 contains xorgconfig? |
| 18:09.49 | obscuresoul | stew tks |
| 18:09.54 | streuner | Alver: /msg dpkg xorg7 |
| 18:10.18 | Alver | streuner: I'm aware of Xorg 7 breakage... was just wondering if there was a known fix (nvidia and KDE already work fine again) |
| 18:10.38 | streuner | Alver: read the URL mentioned in the factoid (xorg7) |
| 18:11.11 | Alver | streuner: did that before - helped me with other issues, but doesn't mention anything related to my problem |
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| 18:11.36 | streuner | Alver: so GLX isn't mentioned yet? |
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| 18:12.23 | plb | argh apt-file search came up with nothing for xorgconfig |
| 18:12.32 | plb | where is this bloody thing |
| 18:12.46 | Alver | streuner: it mentions the errors can be "fixed" by removing the module lines, but that doesn't give the GLX extension back - it just stops the system from trying to load it |
| 18:12.48 | bleujean | Hi. A really stupid question: I've got a forcedeth module missing in one kernel package. Can I just build the forcedeth module, and not a new kernel? |
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| 18:13.38 | tuv | can a surface disk scan (badblocks) result in loosing data? |
| 18:13.46 | maher | bleujean: probably - is the module suported by module-assistant? |
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| 18:13.48 | mambotech | guy's how do i find minicom and install it |
| 18:13.58 | MoDaX | bleujean: cd to module directory and make -C /path/to/linux/kernel/sources M=`pwd` |
| 18:14.06 | bleujean | maher -- I've never heard of module-assistant. |
| 18:14.07 | r_marvin | mambotech: apt-get install minicom should do the trick |
| 18:14.19 | mambotech | cool thanks |
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| 18:14.33 | streuner | Alver: if you find a solutin let 'stew' know about it |
| 18:14.45 | stew | Alver: or just edit the page yourself |
| 18:14.47 | streuner | Alver: s/solutin/solution/ |
| 18:14.56 | maher | bleujean: try it - you might like it |
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| 18:15.31 | bleujean | maher: thanks, trying it right now. |
| 18:15.37 | streuner | Alver: there are some new packages in incoming, did you try those out? |
| 18:15.46 | Vyrus001 | anybody here have issues doing a make menuconfig on 2.6.16, i keep getting "In file included from scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:24: scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:31:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory"? |
| 18:15.52 | Alver | stew, streuner: I just found a gentoo forum post that mentions setting the whole path to libglx.a in xorg.conf instead of simply "glx" |
| 18:16.08 | stew | Vyrus001: install libncurses5-dev |
| 18:16.20 | Vyrus001 | stew, ah thanx :P |
| 18:16.23 | stew | Alver: if that works, please add an entry to the Xorg69to7 wiki page |
| 18:16.41 | plb | anyone happen to know where xorgconfig went?? |
| 18:16.48 | Alver | Will do. Should I add something about the startkde issue too? |
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| 18:17.06 | bleujean | maher: just installed module-assistant, and did a make -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1/ M=`pwd` but I'm getting the following errors: |
| 18:17.12 | streuner | Alver: that would be great |
| 18:17.18 | oskie | is xorg 7.0 in unstable safe on amd64 now? people in #d-amd64 seem to be sleeping.. |
| 18:17.18 | stew | Alver: if its somethen that breaks from 6.9 to 7 that you know a workaround for, please do |
| 18:17.23 | bleujean | Makefile:484: .config: No such file or directory |
| 18:17.35 | chealer | maher: forcedeth is only in the main kernel tree. module-assistant won't help |
| 18:17.42 | bleujean | WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. |
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| 18:18.17 | stew | bleujean: is there a reason you are compiling your own kernels instead of just using the debian compiled kernels? |
| 18:18.24 | bleujean | chealer: I've got forcedeth.c in the /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1/drivers/net |
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| 18:19.04 | plb | errr packages.debian.org cannot find xorgconfig either...am I missing something here? |
| 18:19.06 | bleujean | stew: debian doesn't build vserver patched kernels. I've got a kernel here, but it's missing forcedeth for one of my nics, the other one is broadcom. |
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| 18:19.22 | streuner | plb: not xorg.conf? |
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| 18:19.38 | stew | plb: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 18:19.58 | streuner | !drxx plb |
| 18:19.58 | dpkg | plb: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:20.26 | bleujean | maher: should I just give up, and try building a new kernel? |
| 18:20.38 | plb | thanks |
| 18:20.39 | plb | brb |
| 18:20.44 | dpm_ | is there a way to check the version of a library that has not been installed with apt (i.e. has been compiled from source)? |
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| 18:22.04 | chealer | dpm_: depends on the library |
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| 18:23.11 | dpm_ | chealer, so there is no general-purpose tool with which I could read the version, then... |
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| 18:23.21 | maher | bleujean: make-kpkg does have some support for only builing modules - however in my experience its a bit awkward to use |
| 18:23.45 | Alver | stew, streuner: added it |
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| 18:24.29 | teclo- | I get a lot of "Can't locate module char-major blah" and the machine boots very very slowly... what can I do ? |
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| 18:25.42 | tombs | hi all |
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| 18:26.01 | bleujean | maher: thanks. I think I'll try just building a new kernel. Is http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html still applicable to 2.6.xx kernels? |
| 18:26.31 | Alver | Going to check on the other issues now |
| 18:27.10 | maher | bleujean: should work with 2.6 - newer debian source packages are called linux-source instead of kernel-source |
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| 18:28.21 | nikko | hi... when I type apt-get update / upgrade , I get a error message, that manpages-dev is trying to overwrite create_module.2.gz... what to do? |
| 18:28.24 | bleujean | maher: Thanks. I've got kernel-source-2.6.14.3-vs2.0.1, which should be the right package for me 2.6.14-amd64-smp-vs kernel. |
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| 18:28.52 | ged | anyone here from around the connecticut/usa area? |
| 18:29.14 | streuner | why |
| 18:29.34 | ged | i just setup a subaccount under my father's isp account, so my email address is jengle@snet.net. i'm trying to configure fetchmail but the server won't accept my password. |
| 18:29.43 | ged | i know that the isp uses authentication |
| 18:30.02 | ged | s/uses/requires/ |
| 18:30.28 | abrotman | i'd hope so :) |
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| 18:30.35 | abrotman | can you get it to work with another pop3 client? |
| 18:30.40 | ged | but i don't know what option adds authentication to the fetchmail poll |
| 18:30.57 | ged | i prefer using fetchmail |
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| 18:31.10 | bleujean | maher: if I build the kernel, can I just copy the forcedeth.ko file into the right location, or do I have to install the whole new kernel? |
| 18:31.11 | ged | but i will try with thunderbird |
| 18:31.20 | abrotman | ged: don't you think in order to test .. you should try another pop3 client? |
| 18:31.29 | maher | bleujean: its safest to install the whole new kernel |
| 18:31.43 | stew | ged: the "user" and "password" options are what you ened to add to the poll line |
| 18:31.52 | Johnny_5 | are tere any dvd burning programs in debian that'll alow you to burn a dvd to where it'll play in a dvd player? |
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| 18:32.10 | bleujean | maher: That's what I feared :( It's a production machine due to go out tomorrow, and only today I noticed the second NIC is h0sed. :( |
| 18:32.22 | abrotman | Johnny_5: they all should |
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| 18:32.33 | Led_Zeppelin | anyone here own a small factor PC? |
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| 18:32.50 | bleujean | led_zeppelin: yes, mini-ITX |
| 18:32.59 | stew | < bleujean> stew: debian doesn't build vserver patched kernels. |
| 18:33.01 | stew | yes it does |
| 18:33.14 | stew | !info linux-headers-2.6.16-1-vserver-686 |
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| 18:33.20 | dpkg | linux-headers-2.6.16-1-vserver-686: (Header files for Linux kernel 2.6.16 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.16-7 (sid), Packaged size: 454 kB, Installed size: 11240 kB |
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| 18:33.42 | stew | s/headers/image/... |
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| 18:34.03 | bleujean | stew: the vserver stuff in Debian is officially broken, and I need an Opteron kernel with vserver patches. |
| 18:34.22 | ged | stew, i added the user and pass lines |
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| 18:35.02 | streuner | ged: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2374 |
| 18:35.12 | Led_Zeppelin | bleujean: where do they sell these? I am looking at pricewatch, do they give them with CPUs or are there special CPUs for them? |
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| 18:35.55 | bleujean | led_zeppelin: no idea, I built them myself. |
| 18:35.58 | stew | bleujean: which bug#? |
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| 18:36.25 | Johnny_5 | then how do i go about it then? right now i can do are data dvds and they'll only play on the comp viewer.... |
| 18:36.33 | bleujean | stew: obsolete util-vserver |
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| 18:36.40 | Johnny_5 | is there something i'm missing? |
| 18:36.48 | stew | bleujean: what does that have to do with the kernel? |
| 18:37.20 | Johnny_5 | right now i'm using k3b |
| 18:37.23 | bleujean | stew: I have no idea. Poetzl says I shouldn't use default Debian packages. |
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| 18:37.57 | maher | Johnny_5: you need somehing like dvdauthor or kino |
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| 18:39.09 | bleujean | stew: vserver is reasonably bleeding edge, so you have to track the officially released vserver kernel patches and the matching utils. It's been years since I had to build a new kernel, so alternative kernel package sources were highly useful -- but the buck stops when they don't support your hardware. |
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| 18:39.28 | yos87 | hi' |
| 18:39.49 | liran_ | hey |
| 18:39.52 | ged | streuner: does running fetchmail automail the poll to the server? |
| 18:39.59 | liran_ | has anyone heard of the dotdeb.org repository? |
| 18:40.01 | stew | bleujean: what version of the vserver patch are you using? |
| 18:40.12 | stew | !dotdeb |
| 18:40.12 | dpkg | i guess dotdeb is for the latest php and mysql releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/, or but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN |
| 18:40.39 | liran_ | ahh ok |
| 18:40.41 | stew | liran_: i dont' think there is any reason than to use the package provided by actual DDs at backports.org |
| 18:40.59 | bleujean | stew: kernel-image-2.6.14-amd64-smp-vs_0.84_amd64.deb and util-vserver-0.30.210.tar.bz2 |
| 18:41.03 | stew | err, i don't think there is any rason to use dotdeb over bakcports.org |
| 18:41.03 | bug2000 | X server hates me. |
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| 18:41.32 | Eulex | bug2000, unstable, eh? |
| 18:41.37 | liran_ | stew: yeah, im actually thinking ill just go with dist-upgrade to unstable (from sarge 3.1 with kernel 2.6.8-2). its a server, do you think im making a correct decision? |
| 18:41.45 | stew | liran_: no |
| 18:41.49 | bug2000 | Nope, just doesn't want to run at all. |
| 18:42.01 | Eulex | bug2000, check the log. |
| 18:42.02 | maher | liran_: no |
| 18:42.03 | stew | liran_: i would never recommend unstable, definately not for a webserver |
| 18:42.12 | yos87 | Hi, I have problem with mount, when I mount I have this error: hdc state 0x00, how to diable the checking from hdcpram? |
| 18:42.28 | bug2000 | The logs here are hard to read. |
| 18:42.35 | liran_ | yeah its what i was thinking. |
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| 18:42.53 | sud0n1m | I've been following the instructions for .htaccess on http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/htaccess.htm . My authentication wont work - is something different in Apache 2 that makes these instructions outdated? |
| 18:42.54 | liran_ | so if i want latest php and mysql just to go with backports? |
| 18:42.59 | maher | bug2000: unstable? read the topic |
| 18:43.07 | maher | liran_: backports are better |
| 18:43.07 | Banach | anybody help me with a missing cdrom problem? |
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| 18:43.40 | Eulex | maher, no |
| 18:43.40 | maher | Banach: your norm ball is compact so just pick a finite cover... |
| 18:43.44 | bug2000 | maher, cant start at all. |
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| 18:44.01 | bug2000 | I'll get a screenshot. |
| 18:44.02 | Banach | maher: nice maths. pity its not about cdroms.... |
| 18:44.03 | liran_ | ok thanks. |
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| 18:44.24 | Eulex | bug2000, what happens when you try to start it? |
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| 18:44.52 | maher | Banach: did it work in the past? |
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| 18:45.07 | bug2000 | Eulex, you'll see in a sec. |
| 18:45.31 | j4vi | hi, i'm making a script, i wanna show the updates packages, how i show the updates packages by apt-get update? |
| 18:45.52 | MatBoy | I have a problem during the NIC-search during the netinstall. The NIC works fine in knoppix. What could be the problem ? I don't think a bug |
| 18:45.53 | Banach | maher, nope, not since I installed. its an ide drive and my hdd is a sata dive, and the cd drive had the install disc in and now theres not even a device node for hd*, acd*, cd* |
| 18:46.10 | maher | Banach: what kernel - are you using udev? |
| 18:46.22 | bug2000 | uploading. |
| 18:46.30 | streuner | ged: sorry, can you rephrase the question? |
| 18:46.41 | Banach | maher, 2.6.12 and yes |
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| 18:46.56 | bug2000 | http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen3zl.png |
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| 18:47.09 | maher | Banach: i don't use udev, but try scd0 or sr0 |
| 18:47.12 | rohan | how do i enable autohinting ? i am using debian sid, dpkg-reconfigure does not give me the option to enable it, like it did before |
| 18:47.20 | ged | streuner: nevermind, it's not working regardless. |
| 18:47.25 | ged | i even tried my father's account |
| 18:47.25 | streuner | ged: fetchmail look if there are mails on a pop3 server and get them to your local box |
| 18:47.35 | bug2000 | Eulex, Any ideas? |
| 18:47.40 | Banach | maher : neither of them give me anything |
| 18:47.40 | streuner | ged: that's all what fetchmail does |
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| 18:47.54 | Eulex | bug2000, again, read your logs. and what X driver are you using? |
| 18:48.05 | maher | Banach: udev is meant to do this sort of thing for you but try manually loading the ide-cd friver |
| 18:48.12 | bug2000 | I think I chose the VMWare one. |
| 18:48.33 | Banach | maher: heres my lsmod , how do i load the ide-cd driver? |
| 18:48.38 | Eulex | bug2000, there's no vmware X driver in debian. |
| 18:48.40 | streuner | ged: ok, login as user and use ~/.fetchmailrc and paste the error to paster bot |
| 18:48.45 | Banach | maher: is it a modprobe? if so what module? |
| 18:48.45 | bug2000 | Impossiable. |
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| 18:48.59 | ged | ok |
| 18:49.11 | maher | Banach: try modprobe ide_cd or cdrom |
| 18:49.30 | Banach | maher line 10 on the pasting, its already done |
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| 18:49.55 | Eulex | bug2000, oh, sorry, there is |
| 18:50.03 | evaded | Eulex: He you're again there, thanks for that header and dev tip there abou xpm. It's solved an my 'wmpower' are been installed now :-) |
| 18:50.09 | Banach | maher: nothing |
| 18:50.23 | Eulex | hmm, now would they add an X driver for vmware? *confused* |
| 18:50.30 | maher | Banach: anything useful looking in /sys/bus/ide/... |
| 18:50.40 | liran_ | stew: also. im currently having mysql4 and php4, if im installing php5 and mysql5 i dont need to remove the old 4 versions of those right? i can just keep those and install the latest 5ths... |
| 18:50.47 | bug2000 | Eulex, For VMWare users? |
| 18:51.00 | stew | liran_: both conflict with the 4 versions |
| 18:51.12 | ged | streuner: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2375 |
| 18:51.13 | Banach | maher: theres nothing in /sys/bus/ide/devices |
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| 18:51.27 | bug2000 | Eulex, Any ideas for fixing the problem? |
| 18:51.31 | liran_ | stew: so i have to remove php4 and mysql4 and then install from backports the new ones? |
| 18:51.32 | myren_ | anyone know a good channel where i could get wpa_supplicant help? |
| 18:51.32 | Eulex | bug2000, why wouldn't vmware implement something like vesa vbe 2.0? anyway, it quite clearly says that it doesn't support 24 bit graphics. try 16-bit graphics instead. |
| 18:51.36 | maher | Banach: try also modprobe sr_mod and scsi_mod in case its trying to use scsi emulation |
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| 18:51.46 | bug2000 | Eulex, how do I change it? |
| 18:52.10 | streuner | ged: not every mail-provider support fetchmail |
| 18:52.16 | Banach | maher: still nothing |
| 18:52.32 | Banach | its as if the device doesnt exist. and its not just with this drive either- i've tried another |
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| 18:52.50 | Eulex | !drxx bug2000 |
| 18:52.50 | dpkg | bug2000: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:52.56 | zoshe | hi |
| 18:53.02 | [pantocrator] | /me se va adioossss |
| 18:53.06 | streuner | ged: did you see there website for that feature? |
| 18:53.06 | maher | Banach: do you have ide_generic loaded? |
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| 18:53.19 | mrobache | hello, I intend to adopt a debian packet and i'm looking for an official developer which could support me |
| 18:53.23 | bleujean | maher: I can't see nforce/forcedeth in make menuconfig out of hand. Any idea where to look for it? |
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| 18:53.37 | ged | streuner: what feature? |
| 18:53.46 | Banach | maher NO! hmm... lets see what happens |
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| 18:53.57 | maher | Banach: check ide_core |
| 18:54.05 | streuner | ged: get the mails from server to your local box |
| 18:54.10 | Eulex | gah |
| 18:54.12 | maher | Banach: maybe you need a special driver for your ide chipset |
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| 18:54.18 | Banach | maher: got an /dev/sr0 now... |
| 18:54.23 | Banach | will that be it? |
| 18:54.26 | stew | mrobache: did you file a ITA? have you prepared packages yet? |
| 18:54.30 | maher | Banach: should be |
| 18:54.45 | Eulex | I've got some random shitty flash stuff in one of the huge amount of tabs in firefox playing the same stuff all over |
| 18:54.58 | ged | streuner: i don't understand your question |
| 18:55.04 | Red_Cloud | Educate me! I am tightening up my security and need to know if tcpwrappers is where you apply blacklists. ? |
| 18:55.05 | Banach | maher: who says mathematicians know nothing about real world stuff eh?! =p |
| 18:55.05 | myren_ | what is the cupsys daemon package in Debian? |
| 18:55.10 | mrobache | I haven't prepared the packet yet but I did file a ITA |
| 18:55.22 | abrotman | myren_: apt-cache search cupsys |
| 18:55.23 | streuner | myren_: apt-cache search cupsys |
| 18:55.28 | streuner | :-) |
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| 18:55.39 | maher | Banach: heh - udev is meant to set stuff up for you but I've managed to avoid it so far... |
| 18:55.42 | myren_ | answer remains non-intuitive |
| 18:55.50 | myren_ | erp, nm |
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| 18:55.55 | Kraig | finally got X7.0 working... pheww.... see you guys, thanks for the help |
| 18:55.56 | jetscreamer | so why did the xserver upgrade in sid fuck up my fonts |
| 18:56.06 | crschmidt | I recently upgraded from sarge to testin |
| 18:56.07 | crschmidt | g |
| 18:56.07 | Red_Cloud | myren, my understanding of cupsys is to allow access to network printers |
| 18:56.12 | sud0n1m | Hi, Im going to be moving from Debian to FC5. Is it possible to back up Debian and then load it within VMWare on another server while I perform the migration on the server? |
| 18:56.12 | Banach | maher du ist eine genius!!!!!! I'll add ide_generic to /etc/modules? |
| 18:56.14 | streuner | jetscreamer: /msg dpkg xorg7 |
| 18:56.16 | crschmidt | and now, in putty, irssi displays strangely -- |
| 18:56.16 | Kraig | jetscreamer: in my case it was incorrect data in xorg.conf |
| 18:56.21 | stew | mrobache: once you have prepared packages, put them somewhere that they can be downloaded, you can use mentors.debian.net for this. Then post to http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors asking for comments or to #debian-mentors here |
| 18:56.22 | mrobache | stew: I have to admin that I am not familiar with packet adoption protocol |
| 18:56.27 | crschmidt | it cuts off the first two characters after the brackets |
| 18:56.27 | Kraig | s/data/font\ directory/ |
| 18:56.29 | myren_ | Red_Cloud: i think its also for local printers too |
| 18:56.33 | maher | Banach: yeah - there is probably some special udev way of telling it to load it... |
| 18:56.36 | crschmidt | doesn't happen in Terminal.app |
| 18:56.41 | bug2000 | Eulex, by changing to 16 it got farther, now it fails to instelize. |
| 18:56.46 | stew | mrobache: which is the bug# of the ITA? |
| 18:56.50 | bug2000 | core devices. |
| 18:56.54 | Banach | maher : im not up on udev. il just edit /etc/modules and make it ro |
| 18:57.02 | Red_Cloud | myren, that is taken for granted with a network printer access. |
| 18:57.04 | mrobache | stew: 285163 |
| 18:57.06 | Eulex | bug2000, then you've messed giving it correct info about your mouse and keyboard. |
| 18:57.09 | crschmidt | so, i see, for example, <ed_Cloud>yren, that |
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| 18:57.18 | mrobache | stew: what should I prepare ? |
| 18:57.19 | crschmidt | anyone know why that might be? |
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| 18:58.06 | jetscreamer | streuner++ |
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| 19:00.43 | stew | mrobache: build a new version of the package. See if you can in doing so, close any of the exising bugs for that package. When your package is prepared, you should be able to run lintian and linda on the packages and it should be error free |
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| 19:01.05 | bug2000 | What do I need to write in mouse? |
| 19:01.17 | bug2000 | A4Tech SWW-25 ? |
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| 19:01.30 | MatBoy | I have tried a 3com NIC at this moment, same error during the searching for NIC's. "modprobe blabla NICname" |
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| 19:01.57 | g0th | hi |
| 19:02.11 | Eclipser | I... need... to...get...rosegarden...to...work ;_; |
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| 19:02.27 | maher | MatBoy: do you know the name of the driver? |
| 19:03.08 | Eulex | bug2000, very likely vmware emulates a ps/2 (/dev/psaux) or usb (/dev/input/mice) mouse, but you should refer to the vmware docs for that |
| 19:03.32 | bug2000 | Now you tell me that /input/mice is USB. |
| 19:03.35 | MatBoy | maher, I guess so. I have tried 2 CD's and they both give me the same with "linux" and "linux26" |
| 19:03.35 | bug2000 | If only I knew before. |
| 19:03.39 | mrobache | stew: thank you very much for your help |
| 19:03.46 | Red_Cloud | Educate me! I am tightening up my security and need to know if tcpwrappers is where you apply blacklists. ? |
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| 19:04.01 | Eulex | bug2000, I think it tells you in the screen before that choice |
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| 19:04.10 | stew | mrobache: no problem, thanks for contributing |
| 19:04.24 | stew | Eclipser: what is the problem you are having? |
| 19:04.26 | g0th | I'm trying to print a pdf file such that 4 pages are on one side, when I print it using acroreader or xpdf the print layout is very bad (either it cuts stuff or it's a really bad separation into 4 images). So I tried pdf2ps and then psnup -4, but psnup seems to cut off stuff around the edges of the pages and when I print the resulting ps file I can't read any text (but I can read it if I view it in eg. gv with zoom).... |
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| 19:04.38 | stew | Eclipser: and what version of rosegarden? |
| 19:04.43 | Eclipser | 1.2.3 |
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| 19:04.54 | stew | Eclipser: are you usnig my packages? |
| 19:04.59 | mrobache | stew: do you have a email where I could ask you questions ? |
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| 19:05.06 | maher | MatBoy: i meant do you know the name of the driver for the nic |
| 19:05.09 | Eclipser | no, I compiled it myself, I didn't know there were any packages :p |
| 19:05.13 | stew | mrobache: just ask debian-mentors@lists.debian.org |
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| 19:05.44 | Eclipser | stew, when I start it it says "no driver" in the sequencer configuration |
| 19:05.49 | bug2000 | Next problem. No fonts? |
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| 19:05.53 | stew | Eclipser: i'm working on getting my packages into debian, I'm waiting on manpages for the lilypond scripts from upstream then hopefully get sponsor to upload it soon |
| 19:05.54 | Eclipser | alsa midi stuff and jack work fine though |
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| 19:06.18 | stew | Eclipser: hmm, and you have snd-seq-oss module loaded? |
| 19:06.23 | stew | actually i dont' know if htat is needed here |
| 19:06.31 | g0th | I have a cupsys setup |
| 19:06.31 | maher | g0th: is your paper funny sizes? you can specify them manually in psnup |
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| 19:06.40 | g0th | I have a4 paper |
| 19:06.41 | Eclipser | stew, yes |
| 19:06.46 | g0th | the input should be a4 as well |
| 19:06.48 | kurtak | Does anyone have any idea what i can try to do now when i can't install x11-common. i try it w/ apt, and i get the error dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 19:06.48 | kurtak | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.48 | kurtak | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 19:06.48 | kurtak | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 19:06.48 | kurtak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:06.48 | MatBoy | maher, no, I have to check that. But with a Intel Pro 10/100 I think it should be something like e100 ? |
| 19:06.54 | maher | g0th: yes but are the pdfs a4? |
| 19:07.01 | g0th | should be, how do I check that? |
| 19:07.04 | maher | MatBoy: probably |
| 19:07.19 | maher | MatBoy: what does modprobe e100 do? |
| 19:07.21 | abrotman | !tell kurtak about overwrite |
| 19:07.22 | enyc | Inter pro 100 is a 'e100' driver normally |
| 19:07.23 | g0th | at least the created file from pdf2ps is not cut |
| 19:07.33 | streuner | abrotman: gone |
| 19:07.50 | MatBoy | maher, let me see, I will also check the F4-F6 |
| 19:07.57 | abrotman | streuner: out of here .. i think dpkg will still tell him |
| 19:08.22 | abrotman | !tell paulswm about abrotmoo |
| 19:08.22 | enyc | intel etherekpress pro 10/100 -- i.e. i82597/somilar cards |
| 19:08.32 | streuner | abrotman: sure :-) |
| 19:08.37 | enyc | uses e100 driver OR older eepro100 driver... sometimes useful etc. |
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| 19:08.44 | abrotman | we'll see in a few minutes if paul says something |
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| 19:09.10 | Eclipser | stew, http://rafb.net/paste/results/Z632RF68.html |
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| 19:09.13 | bug2000 | Eulex, Thanks a lot about all the help so far, what about the fonts? |
| 19:09.20 | enyc | MatBoy: ?what kernel are you trying to run the intel e10/100 under? [see 'uname -a'] |
| 19:09.32 | kurtak | Any advice on fixing a big package (x11-common) that can't install ? |
| 19:09.35 | Eulex | bug2000, fonts? how do you mean? |
| 19:09.37 | abrotman | !tell kurtak about overwrite |
| 19:09.44 | spikex | pew, there are a lot of debian users |
| 19:10.02 | g0th | maher: can I message you the file? |
| 19:10.09 | bug2000 | could not open default font 'fixed'; |
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| 19:10.22 | maher | g0th: probably not as i'm fwed |
| 19:11.15 | bug2000 | Eulex, could not open default font 'fixed'; |
| 19:11.34 | ifvoid | bug2000: you need to fix the fonts paths in xorg.conf |
| 19:11.39 | kurtak | cool, thanks, finally! |
| 19:11.42 | ifvoid | !xorg sid |
| 19:11.42 | dpkg | hmm... xorg sid is for upgrading problem to X11R7 in sid, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 19:11.50 | ifvoid | bug2000: see that page |
| 19:12.06 | bleujean | giving up on forcedeth, I guess I have to live with one NIC for now. |
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| 19:12.22 | MatBoy | maher, It can't find any socket |
| 19:12.22 | Eulex | bug2000, which means that you're running unstable, even though you probably shouldn't, as you had to ask that question |
| 19:12.51 | maher | MatBoy: what is the error and what produces it? |
| 19:12.57 | bug2000 | Eulex, It never acctualy gave me the option to chose 6.9 |
| 19:13.07 | MatBoy | maher: cardmgr[5529] |
| 19:13.11 | stew | Eclipser: i don't see any errors there. so exactly where do you see this? somewhere in the ui? |
| 19:13.19 | simonrvn | bug2000: wth would it? |
| 19:13.25 | Eulex | bug2000, you've got xorg 7.0 |
| 19:13.32 | maher | MatBoy: is this a pcmci network card? |
| 19:13.36 | Eulex | bug2000, what didn't give you a choice? |
| 19:13.46 | bug2000 | Eulex, Debian. |
| 19:13.52 | bug2000 | It forced me into 7.0 |
| 19:13.55 | simonrvn | .... |
| 19:14.08 | simonrvn | you forced yourself to use sid. you get what you pay for |
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| 19:14.13 | MatBoy | maher, nope, just a PCI-version on a Intel D915PGN |
| 19:14.17 | bug2000 | haha. |
| 19:14.22 | Eclipser | stew, yes, in the configuratin window in sequencer configs it says "no driver" |
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| 19:14.26 | simonrvn | blaming the os for user error is irresponsible |
| 19:14.26 | MatBoy | maher, It does the same thing with a 3C990 |
| 19:14.33 | bleujean | sid is vicious. |
| 19:14.37 | Eulex | bug2000, debian can't force you into using unstable. it requires manual editing of your sources.list |
| 19:14.40 | Eclipser | stew, I got it to play a midi through my midi keyboard :p |
| 19:14.47 | Eclipser | so that works "fine" I guess |
| 19:14.56 | bug2000 | Eulex, Well... something is fishy. |
| 19:15.05 | simonrvn | yeh, your admin skills |
| 19:15.08 | Eulex | bug2000, or going into expert mode in the installer and explicitly choosing unstable |
| 19:15.11 | maher | MatBoy: if you grab a console and type modprobe e100 and look in dmesg or syslog what happens? |
| 19:15.24 | Eulex | bug2000, how did you install debian? |
| 19:15.33 | bug2000 | Small bootable cd. |
| 19:15.40 | Eulex | bug2000, netinstaller? |
| 19:15.40 | Eclipser | but I want it to play directly through my soundcard.. |
| 19:15.42 | bug2000 | Yes. |
| 19:15.49 | Eulex | bug2000, the sarge one? |
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| 19:16.33 | MatBoy | maher, when I do it manually... nothing happens |
| 19:16.46 | simonrvn | bug2000: nah, not stupid, stupid thing to do |
| 19:17.01 | maher | MatBoy: try lsmod | grep e100 |
| 19:17.05 | bug2000 | Er wait, I downloaded this: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 19:17.10 | bug2000 | it claims it's stable. |
| 19:17.13 | bug2000 | I am getting confused. |
| 19:17.15 | simonrvn | the ~150 mb one |
| 19:17.22 | simonrvn | that is stable |
| 19:17.27 | Eclipser | stew, and I can't seem to get it to record any stuff I play on my keyboard |
| 19:17.52 | MatBoy | maher e100 30080 0 |
| 19:17.57 | MatBoy | use this manually ? |
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| 19:18.46 | MatBoy | maher, mii 4861 1 e100 |
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| 19:18.55 | MatBoy | that's under the e100 line |
| 19:18.58 | stew | Eclipser: and you setup mappings in the "Manage MIDI Devices" dialog? |
| 19:19.16 | Eulex | bug2000, you should probably reinstall; you can't easily downgrade. that is, assuming you wanted to run stable. |
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| 19:19.42 | bleujean | eulex: downgrade is not safe? |
| 19:19.43 | Eclipser | stew, uh yeah, forgot that :> |
| 19:19.52 | stew | bug2000: what does "apt-cache policy libc6" say for Installed: and Candidate: ? |
| 19:19.58 | Eulex | bleujean, if you know what you're doing; yes. |
| 19:20.06 | simonrvn | bleujean: it's not designed to downgrade like that |
| 19:20.10 | Eulex | bleujean, though it's still a pain in the ass |
| 19:20.15 | g0th | psnup seems to behave completely wrong in my case |
| 19:20.15 | simonrvn | big pita |
| 19:20.22 | g0th | I don't get any sane result so far... :( |
| 19:20.24 | Eclipser | stew, well, now I just mainly want my midi and audio stuff to be played from my speakers, not my midi device |
| 19:20.43 | bleujean | eulex: I happend to be able to downgrade to stable yesterday when I grabbed the wrong CD. |
| 19:21.00 | bug2000 | yea, it's Sarge.. oh well. |
| 19:21.05 | maher | MatBoy: ok - so your module is loaded |
| 19:21.05 | bug2000 | I'll just go for unstable. |
| 19:21.08 | Eulex | bleujean, from what? |
| 19:21.08 | scotth | does anyone have any recommendations for a good log analyzer. I'm looking to do several things. I want to do security related alerts, usage of the server(apache, postfix, cupsys, authlogs, etc.) and any thing else that will create a pretty picture for the PHB. Any recommendations? Ive tried lire but I can't get it to work right and configuration has been a night mare |
| 19:21.15 | maher | MatBoy: what doesn't work? |
| 19:21.26 | bleujean | eulex: the disk was labeled as Sarge, but I landed in unstable. |
| 19:21.31 | stew | Eclipser: you'll have to load a soundfont info your soundcard before you'll hear any sounds |
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| 19:21.37 | Damon_ | ave |
| 19:21.47 | Damon_ | ave again |
| 19:22.10 | Eulex | bleujean, hmm. well, it's easier the less packages you've got installed. |
| 19:22.18 | stew | bleujean: what does "apt-cache policy libc6" say for Installed: and Candidate: ? |
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| 19:22.31 | simonrvn | i know what stew is thinking |
| 19:22.32 | Eclipser | stew, I did set the sfxload path and a soundfont file in rosegarden configuration |
| 19:22.41 | Eclipser | stew, I guess it's just me and my incompetence |
| 19:22.57 | Damon_ | I use apache2 + mysql and the auth page not call the auth window |
| 19:23.19 | bleujean | stew: I nuked the system and reinstalled a certified sarge as I had to switch out a NIC since it was fried. |
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| 19:23.26 | gis | hi |
| 19:23.38 | Eclipser | stew, qsynth fixed that, next I need to try to output some real audio :p |
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| 19:23.54 | MatBoy | maher, the setup can't find any networkcard |
| 19:25.10 | maher | MatBoy: type ifconfig in the console - does it see anything? |
| 19:25.20 | Damon_ | : I use apache2 + mysql and the auth page not call the auth window - the moules installed and enabled in apache2 |
| 19:25.31 | myren_ | i compiled ieee80211 stuff in my kernel, do i need ieee80211-source? |
| 19:25.41 | myren_ | i'm trying to setup wpa, and fialing |
| 19:25.48 | simonrvn | Damon_: that's a statement, not a question |
| 19:25.56 | simonrvn | !tell Damon_ -about ask |
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| 19:26.16 | Damon_ | simonrvn okay ;) |
| 19:26.42 | MatBoy | maher, nope nothing |
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| 19:27.07 | simonrvn | lost 500$ on jeopardy ;p |
| 19:27.10 | jsn | Hmm, what's the solution the xserver-xorg "normal users not being able to write to /tmp" issue. Doesn't seem to be up at bugs.d.o |
| 19:27.39 | jengelh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.46 | Damon_ | well I have a databes with users and password, i have some pages where I give username and passwords. The system is reinstalled, but the auth page not working |
| 19:27.47 | maher | MatBoy: does it show up in lspci? |
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| 19:28.48 | MatBoy | maher, command does not work in the console during install |
| 19:28.52 | jsn | jengelh: thanks. Is this a change I should make permanently, or is it something I'll want to change back after the next version of xserver-xorg fixes it? |
| 19:29.11 | stew | jsn: what is the output of "ls -ld /tmp" ? |
| 19:29.13 | jengelh | /tmp should always be 1777, or apps may screw up |
| 19:29.17 | jsn | jengelh: and, maybe, you should add something to bugs.d.o about it, since the answer isn't there |
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| 19:29.46 | stew | jsn: if your /tmp is not 1777 its not a xorg bug |
| 19:29.52 | jsn | it's drwxrwxrwxt |
| 19:30.06 | stew | jsn: that is correct |
| 19:30.06 | jsn | that's > 0777, for sure |
| 19:30.08 | jsn | :) |
| 19:30.14 | jengelh | no, +t is 1 |
| 19:30.16 | simonrvn | it's also 1 |
| 19:30.20 | simonrvn | 777 |
| 19:30.27 | jsn | I have 338640, then |
| 19:30.28 | simonrvn | @kill my typist |
| 19:30.42 | simonrvn | horrible way to die |
| 19:30.46 | bug2000 | Meg. |
| 19:30.48 | bug2000 | *Meh |
| 19:30.52 | bug2000 | Ok, I give up. |
| 19:30.54 | bug2000 | What to download?> |
| 19:31.06 | bug2000 | Reinstall's gonna be hell. |
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| 19:31.23 | phretor | hi there |
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| 19:32.20 | bug2000 | Eulex, I give up... What file should I download? |
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| 19:32.39 | maher | MatBoy: ok - i don't know why its not finding your nic |
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| 19:33.00 | Eulex | bug2000, the one you had there |
| 19:33.12 | bug2000 | Ok, then I still have it. |
| 19:33.18 | Eulex | bug2000, no idea how you landed in unstable |
| 19:33.19 | bug2000 | I still can't figure how Serge got there. |
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| 19:33.41 | Eulex | bug2000, sarge is stable, etch is testing, sid is unstable |
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| 19:34.01 | bug2000 | This is going weirder and wierder. |
| 19:34.10 | goron | Is it possible to deinstall all the kde games, while holding kde, since I never ever play them? |
| 19:34.26 | Shadowcat | umm |
| 19:34.27 | chealer | goron: yes |
| 19:34.29 | jsn | goron, isn't kde-games a packages? kdegames? |
| 19:34.30 | Shadowcat | you could |
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| 19:34.41 | Shadowcat | jsn: it's a metapackage |
| 19:34.44 | Shadowcat | you have to mess around in aptitude |
| 19:34.47 | Shadowcat | but it's possible |
| 19:34.55 | jsn | Many kde games are evenly conveniently listed near each other in dselect, because they begin with k |
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| 19:35.12 | Shadowcat | dselect? |
| 19:35.14 | Shadowcat | eww |
| 19:35.48 | goron | Ok, well, when I do apt-get remove kbattleship, it wants to remove then metapackage kde, which seems a bad thing. But it's not? |
| 19:35.57 | jsn | That would be a bad thing. |
| 19:36.07 | Shadowcat | depends on what aptitude throws out as well |
| 19:36.10 | jsn | (jsn is kignorant, and is guessing) |
| 19:36.11 | Eclipser | stew, hope you get the packages in debian soon :) |
| 19:36.19 | Shadowcat | but if I know aptitude, it'll want to throw out all of kde along with it |
| 19:36.29 | Shadowcat | which means you'll have to tinker a bit to get the result your want |
| 19:36.29 | chealer | goron: no |
| 19:36.32 | jsn | dselect might be the key |
| 19:36.43 | stew | Eclipser: me too :), my packages are currently at http://vireo.org/debian/rosegarden4 if you are interested |
| 19:36.53 | goron | chealer: No, it's not a bad thing? |
| 19:37.05 | chealer | goron: it's not a bad thing |
| 19:37.20 | goron | chealer: that's what I thought. Ty |
| 19:37.29 | bug2000 | Booting installer. |
| 19:37.51 | Eclipser | stew, I just need to start learning this thing if I want to participate this years Assembly competitions |
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| 19:38.07 | stew | Eclipser: Assembly? |
| 19:38.18 | Eclipser | www.assembly.org |
| 19:38.23 | MatBoy | maher, I also can't find out |
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| 19:38.41 | MatBoy | But thanks for the help ! |
| 19:39.05 | evaded | stew: Have you build rosengarden? |
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| 19:39.27 | stew | evaded: yes |
| 19:39.59 | Eclipser | stew, I read somewhere that vst stuff works on it? |
| 19:40.15 | stew | Eclipser: i dunno |
| 19:40.42 | evaded | stew: Good man, really good. Nice to talk with an developer :-) |
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| 19:41.11 | stew | evaded: i'm not a developer, just a hopefully soon-to-be maintainer |
| 19:42.00 | evaded | stew: You will been become one, i'm sure, you're an good one. And the good one ... |
| 19:42.14 | Eclipser | haha |
| 19:42.57 | nse | is there a way to upgrade only one package? |
| 19:43.04 | stew | nse: apt-get install packagename |
| 19:43.10 | evaded | stew: Is it dificult to become one officially? |
| 19:43.18 | Shadowcat | nse: that depends on the package |
| 19:43.28 | evaded | stew: To be are one of Debian i mean |
| 19:43.32 | Shadowcat | if you upgrade libc6 for example, you'll BREAK A LOT of things |
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| 19:43.43 | stew | evaded: it takes a long time, often multiple years after applying |
| 19:43.44 | Shadowcat | especially if you're going from sarge libc6 to etch libc6 |
| 19:44.31 | evaded | stew: It's to be sure that you're an really king of it ;-) A bit not nice when we need to wait so long, i understand |
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| 19:45.05 | Shadowcat | bug2000: stop |
| 19:45.09 | bug2000 | Sorry. |
| 19:45.09 | stew | evaded: waiting for a long time to become a DD shouldnt' be a big deal. one doens't need to be a DD to contribute, just to vote |
| 19:45.16 | bug2000 | I tend to fix myself when I do mistakes. |
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| 19:45.27 | bug2000 | And when I do mistakes while fixing I get mad at myself. |
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| 19:45.40 | bizkit | we see |
| 19:45.43 | bizkit | (: |
| 19:46.04 | evaded | stew: I not good understand that last there |
| 19:46.15 | nse | Shadowcat: the packagename is pptpd |
| 19:46.17 | evaded | stew: So it work with vote systems? |
| 19:46.18 | jsn | I had a package I wanted to maintain, it wasn't in debian, but someone else was almost done getting it into debian. |
| 19:46.39 | evaded | stew: I not good know the process to become DD |
| 19:46.46 | moath | are there no more kernel-source packages as of testing? |
| 19:46.54 | jsn | Now I am permanently, and highly ranked (even though I have 100s of other webpages) in google on the debian maint list as being a bad person (not responding to new maint e-mails) |
| 19:47.06 | stew | evaded: no. when there is a debian vote, only DDs vote. It doesn't have anything to do with the process of becoming a DD |
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| 19:47.09 | tralala | moath: the kernel- pachages are linux- packages now |
| 19:47.33 | evaded | stew: ok, understand ;-) |
| 19:47.35 | tralala | packages |
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| 19:47.41 | flogisto1 | Hi i can't get my debianserver to use static ip. |
| 19:47.43 | moath | tralala: so if i want the kernel source i install linux-2.6? |
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| 19:47.50 | fbtab | greets all |
| 19:47.57 | stew | flogisto1: did you edit /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 19:48.01 | tralala | moath: aptitude search linux- |
| 19:48.06 | flogisto1 | stew: yes. |
| 19:48.24 | stew | flogisto1: what is the problem exactly? can you show us what you ahve in interfaces? use a pastebin /msg dpkg paster |
| 19:48.25 | flogisto1 | then I ran /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 19:48.25 | moath | tralala: wow, many more results than apt-cache search |
| 19:48.30 | tralala | moath: but generally you don't want the source - just the headers |
| 19:48.33 | moath | tralala: is apt-cache depreciated now? |
| 19:48.40 | evaded | flogisto1: And 'ifconfig' show not you're static ip you're been setup? |
| 19:48.46 | bizkit | moath: no |
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| 19:49.07 | moath | when should i use aptitude vs. apt-cache? |
| 19:49.08 | fbtab | hi, is the /etc/cron.d/apt script obsolete? does anyone use it? is there any plans for it? im making some improvement to it, wondering i shoudnt as it might get taken out. |
| 19:49.16 | flogisto1 | ifconfig just shows loopback |
| 19:49.26 | tralala | moath: apt or aptitude is a matter of taste. Aptitude gives you fine control over the search. |
| 19:49.29 | evaded | flogisto1: ifconfig eth0 up |
| 19:49.52 | evaded | flogisto1: Where eth0 are the network card you want to be 'up' |
| 19:49.52 | stew | flogisto1: do you have an "auto" line in interfaces for that interface (eth0?), what happens when you "ifup eth0"? |
| 19:49.58 | flogisto1 | eth0 error while gitting flags |
| 19:50.15 | stew | flogisto1: does it show up when you run "ifconfig -a" ? |
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| 19:50.28 | evaded | flogisto1: I guess there are an typo errno |
| 19:50.52 | flogisto1 | thing starting to happen here now. |
| 19:51.05 | nse | i am having some troubles with the charset of some of my programs, gaim for example is not printing some of pt_BR characters. nautilus is another example. which configuration i have to change to go round this? |
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| 19:51.57 | evaded | stew: I guess that -a are for all the interfaces right? |
| 19:52.47 | r_marvin | yes, for those unconfigured, too |
| 19:52.56 | bizkit | nse: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 19:53.00 | evaded | r_marvin: nice :-0 |
| 19:53.14 | stew | evaded: yes, lists interfaces which arent "up" |
| 19:53.38 | evaded | stew: :-) |
| 19:53.45 | r_marvin | evaded: or "ip l", if you have iproute installed |
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| 19:53.52 | evaded | flogisto1: And now with 'ifconfig'?? |
| 19:54.30 | stew | or "ip a" :) |
| 19:54.40 | flogisto1 | Ifconfig -a gives loopback ond eth0 |
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| 19:54.57 | bleujean | Any ipmitool gurus here? |
| 19:55.02 | flogisto1 | But just ifconfig gives just loopback. |
| 19:55.04 | stew | flogisto1: do you have "auto eth0" in interfaces? |
| 19:55.04 | evaded | flogisto1: So eth0 are been up now |
| 19:55.13 | evaded | flogisto1: ? |
| 19:55.29 | r_marvin | flogisto1: that means eth0 is seen by the kernel, but unconfigured |
| 19:55.37 | evaded | flogisto1: And answer to stew, it's the 2x time he asked that ;-) |
| 19:55.53 | flogisto1 | what? |
| 19:56.07 | r_marvin | flogisto1: ifconfig eth0 ip.add.re.ss netmask ne.tm.as.k |
| 19:56.15 | stew | r_marvin: why? |
| 19:56.26 | r_marvin | to see if the interface is ok |
| 19:56.32 | evaded | flogisto1: Or post you're config on pastebin? Know you about pastebin? |
| 19:56.38 | stew | r_marvin: why do you think he should use ifconfig instead of interfaces(5)? |
| 19:56.45 | nse | bizkit: en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 this locale is selected. strange, because since it is ut8-f brazilian characters should be working. maybe some kind of local configuration to specific programs? |
| 19:56.46 | flogisto1 | Im working on it. |
| 19:57.06 | r_marvin | stew: sometimes it's ok to test manually stuff before writing to configs |
| 19:57.25 | flogisto1 | Cant just paste it cause the server doesnt have a connection |
| 19:57.30 | nvz_ | I've been fighting waking up for hours I just dont feel like moving today |
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| 19:58.08 | evaded | stew : Most time i do like r_marvin do, then when it's good, i write i down in the config :-/ |
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| 19:58.19 | r_marvin | that's the point |
| 19:58.20 | bizkit | nse: there are still some problems with utf-8 .. try starting your app with LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 gaim |
| 19:58.27 | evaded | stew: Is that bad to do it so? |
| 19:58.54 | bizkit | nse: or just LC_CTYPE for input.. the locales stuff is always a bit tricky |
| 19:59.00 | stew | evaded: no, i just don't see the point of doing that over just "ifup eth0" or "/etc/init.d/networking restart" |
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| 19:59.11 | evaded | stew: Ok |
| 19:59.28 | flogisto1 | http://pastebin.com/665719 |
| 19:59.30 | flogisto1 | Here it is. |
| 20:00.00 | r_marvin | flogisto1: it's brOADcast :) |
| 20:00.00 | flogisto1 | Sorry for taking så long. |
| 20:00.13 | flogisto1 | I wrote it by hand |
| 20:00.18 | r_marvin | and aDDress |
| 20:00.22 | evaded | flogisto1: Line 4 |
| 20:00.22 | r_marvin | oh |
| 20:00.26 | stew | flogisto1: you can leave out the broadcast line, its not needed |
| 20:00.29 | evaded | yes lol |
| 20:00.39 | bizkit | BREADcast.. nice one (: |
| 20:00.43 | evaded | some typo errno's |
| 20:00.47 | r_marvin | you only need "address", "netmask" and "gateway" |
| 20:00.56 | r_marvin | and make sure they're spelled right |
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| 20:01.04 | evaded | and toastcast... You have not an toastcast man ;-) |
| 20:01.09 | r_marvin | the "address" thing happens to me all the time |
| 20:01.46 | flogisto1 | thanks a lot. |
| 20:01.50 | r_marvin | evaded: stop poking fun at him, not everyone's a native speaker |
| 20:01.56 | r_marvin | neither am i |
| 20:02.00 | bleujean | When I set the BIOS time to GMT, shall I sent tzconfig to GMT as well? |
| 20:02.03 | flogisto1 | Stopid typo errors ^^ |
| 20:02.04 | flogisto1 | :) |
| 20:02.07 | evaded | r_marvin: yop, ok |
| 20:02.24 | r_marvin | flogisto1: the worst to track down, believe me :) |
| 20:02.33 | r_marvin | does it work ok now? |
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| 20:02.38 | flogisto1 | I can see that. |
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| 20:02.54 | evaded | flogisto1: ifconfig |
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| 20:03.11 | bleujean | My time zone is GMT+1, the BIOS clock is set to UTC (GMT), is tzconfig the right thing to touch, or should it be GMT+1? |
| 20:03.12 | flogisto1 | I heard about the time where O and zero looked the same. |
| 20:03.20 | DamianXL | would u guys happen to know which command to get TELNET going? |
| 20:03.25 | r_marvin | bleujean: set tzconfig how you want it, check "date", then "hwclock --systohc" , to sync the hardware clock |
| 20:03.29 | DamianXL | i have a fresh installation of Debian |
| 20:03.30 | flogisto1 | evaded: i get the right ip and its up |
| 20:03.35 | morka | does debian use partman for installer? |
| 20:03.36 | stew | DamianXL: be more specific |
| 20:03.40 | evaded | DamianXL: Install an telnet client |
| 20:03.45 | DamianXL | i mean... running a telnet server |
| 20:03.48 | r_marvin | flogisto1: great |
| 20:03.55 | evaded | flogisto1: Good job man ;-) |
| 20:03.59 | DamianXL | so i can telnet into the Debian machine |
| 20:04.07 | stew | DamianXL: are you *positive* you want telnet and not ssh? |
| 20:04.08 | flogisto1 | evaded: http://flogiston.mine.nu/ |
| 20:04.09 | flogisto1 | :) |
| 20:04.24 | evaded | DamianXL: telnetd - The telnet server |
| 20:04.33 | flogisto1 | How do I unlock my own password at freenode.net? |
| 20:04.36 | evaded | DamianXL: I have get it with 'apt-cache search telnet' |
| 20:04.39 | bleujean | r_marvin: I'm landing with 23:05 instaed of 22:05 |
| 20:04.46 | flogisto1 | flogiston is my real nick |
| 20:04.50 | flogisto1 | oops meant nick. |
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| 20:05.11 | DamianXL | ah |
| 20:05.12 | evaded | flogisto1: An pink page |
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| 20:05.29 | stew | DamianXL: why do you want telnet instead of ssh? |
| 20:05.37 | DamianXL | euh.. |
| 20:05.41 | DamianXL | i don't mind either.. |
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| 20:05.47 | bizkit | DamianXL: you should really, really prefer ssh. like stew said |
| 20:05.47 | flogisto1 | evaded: do you know if I can unlock mi nick on irc.freenode.net? |
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| 20:05.51 | DamianXL | uhm... |
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| 20:05.52 | jabb | How can I find all (and I mean all) dependencies of some packages? |
| 20:05.59 | avtobiff | or telnet with ipsec? |
| 20:06.00 | Ronin | flogisto1: /msg nickserv help |
| 20:06.10 | evaded | flogisto1: Normally yes, ask to freenode staff?? |
| 20:06.13 | DamianXL | what's the SSH command? |
| 20:06.13 | stew | jabb: apt-cache depends pacakgename |
| 20:06.19 | r_marvin | flogisto1: i'll tell you a trick to set interfaces right: |
| 20:06.22 | bizkit | DamianXL: guess what, ssh |
| 20:06.22 | stew | DamianXL: "ssh" |
| 20:06.24 | DamianXL | u kwow what my biggest problem with Linux is? |
| 20:06.29 | jabb | stew: including recursive dependencies. |
| 20:06.34 | chealer | !tell DamianXL about u |
| 20:06.35 | DamianXL | not knowing the command names |
| 20:06.36 | DamianXL | lol |
| 20:06.40 | r_marvin | "address", "netmask" and "gateway" have the same number of characters |
| 20:06.43 | stew | jabb: you will have to write a script |
| 20:06.48 | r_marvin | so they should be aligned :) |
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| 20:06.56 | evaded | DamianXL: Probably a thing that you need to use instead of telent. It's really more secure 'ssh' and easyer to use i find |
| 20:07.14 | DamianXL | ok.. then SSH it is.. heheh |
| 20:07.25 | avtobiff | DamianXL, that is why you may use apropos |
| 20:07.38 | flogisto1 | r_marvin: sounds like a good one. |
| 20:07.41 | evaded | flogisto1: Looks to this man ;-) Thanks to all the dev to have created the stuff i use!! http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/test/test_website/guicms/ |
| 20:07.45 | bleujean | r_marvin: allright, date -s prior to hwclock --systohc did the trick. |
| 20:08.27 | myren_ | anyone know how i switch from the kernel's hermes module to hostap module? |
| 20:09.21 | nse | there are modules for everything |
| 20:10.14 | evaded | DamianXL: I guess you need to use an howto about 'ssh' to learn more about his features |
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| 20:10.46 | mifoune | bonsoi a tous |
| 20:10.57 | mifoune | bonsor |
| 20:11.02 | mifoune | gna |
| 20:11.16 | loggygreg | !fr |
| 20:11.16 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 20:11.26 | DamianXL | evaded: yep... allready trying to open it... heheh |
| 20:11.32 | evaded | mifoune: Tu est pas sur le bon cannal je supose |
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| 20:11.43 | mortal__ | buona sera a tutti |
| 20:11.45 | mortal__ | or something |
| 20:11.46 | mifoune | ok sorry |
| 20:11.48 | nse | evaded: great! |
| 20:11.50 | DamianXL | cuz it's really really really annoying to keep changing my VGA cable back and forth between the 2 machines |
| 20:11.55 | evaded | nse: Great? |
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| 20:12.11 | DamianXL | if i could ssh my way in... i can run the rest of the tweaking straight from here... |
| 20:12.17 | evaded | nse: Yes i know Debian are great ;-) lol |
| 20:12.18 | nse | evaded: sorry, i was talking about your french |
| 20:12.43 | DamianXL | don't write anything for me for now.. I'm changing VGA cable.. so i won't read the channel... |
| 20:12.43 | evaded | nse: I speak french with my wife, i'm an Dutch one :-/ |
| 20:12.54 | MatBoy | Will I have some advantage of a 3com NIC with 3XP processor ? Performance ? instead of a Intel PCI 10/100 ? |
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| 20:13.34 | hjf | hi folks |
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| 20:14.08 | abrotman | DamianXL: I AM FLASHING YOUR WINDOW! |
| 20:14.28 | nse | evaded: how coincident, Dutch is exactly what i am managing to start learning |
| 20:14.38 | evaded | abrotman: Great he that pink page ;-) |
| 20:14.39 | Klohunt | Can anyone tell me if their is an easy way to edit/configure the menus in the default GNOME installation? Ive looked all over for a tool and I cant find one :( |
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| 20:14.50 | abrotman | evaded: engrish? |
| 20:15.01 | evaded | nse: Dutch not german he. I can help you a bit :-) |
| 20:15.23 | evaded | abrotman: What mean that word, translater not find it :-( |
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| 20:15.39 | abrotman | evaded: erm .. ok |
| 20:15.58 | nse | evaded: perhaps in the near future i will ask for your help. by now all i know is van which mean from. hehe =p |
| 20:16.22 | evaded | abrotman: You forget i'm stupid. What's 'erm'? |
| 20:16.22 | Klohunt | anyone? |
| 20:16.22 | hokata | Klohunt, try alacarte, but it is not very useful |
| 20:16.29 | Klohunt | hokata, thanks |
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| 20:16.33 | abrotman | evaded: like uhm |
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| 20:16.44 | evaded | abrotman: tilt ;-) |
| 20:16.47 | bleujean | do any of you see problems with putting /boot on /dev/md0 as ext3 and / on /dev/md1 as xfs? |
| 20:16.56 | evaded | nse: I'm here if you want ;-) |
| 20:18.31 | evaded | abrotman: I was wrong, i was thinking that you was looking the webpage of flogisto1 |
| 20:18.40 | abrotman | evaded: no kidding |
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| 20:19.21 | evaded | abrotman: Yup, right, he not find it nice that guy |
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| 20:19.32 | abrotman | Okay! |
| 20:19.37 | evaded | flogisto1: Sorry guys, i was a bit lol for that page ;-) |
| 20:19.51 | evaded | s/guys/guy |
| 20:20.00 | flogisto1 | What?? |
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| 20:20.27 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.28 | abrotman | racist |
| 20:20.34 | Eclipser | haha |
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| 20:20.35 | evaded | flogisto1: Leave it, i'm stupid!! im a nerd |
| 20:20.43 | r_marvin | jetscreamer: set bg=light |
| 20:20.51 | flogisto1 | I'am too, I think. |
| 20:20.53 | simonrvn | jetscreamer, abrotman: hi |
| 20:20.55 | bleujean | Thanks to everybody; most of you have been very helpful. Good night. |
| 20:21.02 | abrotman | simonrvn: hi! .. come back! |
| 20:21.03 | evaded | jetscreamer: Running KDE? |
| 20:21.12 | jetscreamer | evaded: nah :) |
| 20:21.12 | flogisto1 | evaded: do you use dvorak? |
| 20:21.15 | jetscreamer | icewm |
| 20:21.53 | jetscreamer | but otoh my a/c works now |
| 20:22.09 | abrotman | your computer has a/c? |
| 20:22.24 | evaded | jetscreamer: The first time i used xterm, it whas in KDE and had leave xterm because i was thinking bad thinkg of it. It show not good on KDE |
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| 20:22.31 | jetscreamer | heh... no but i did buy it a personal sized fan |
| 20:22.44 | r_marvin | is x11r7 a different package? it didn't appear in my upgrade list |
| 20:22.53 | jetscreamer | it's xorg |
| 20:23.00 | jetscreamer | in sid |
| 20:23.03 | evaded | flogisto1: What is it? I only find 'dvorak7min' |
| 20:23.11 | r_marvin | yes, i have sid and 6.9.0 |
| 20:23.22 | r_marvin | or at least 6.9.something |
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| 20:23.27 | stew | r_marvin: you haven't updated in the last 5 days then |
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| 20:23.31 | r_marvin | nope |
| 20:23.33 | jetscreamer | well when you upgrade you too may experience the joys of xorg7 |
| 20:23.42 | r_marvin | updated just this morning |
| 20:23.48 | stew | upgraded* then |
| 20:23.52 | r_marvin | no thanks, i've heard enough |
| 20:24.05 | r_marvin | i'm just keeping a look for it |
| 20:24.09 | flogisto1 | evaded: its an keyboardlayout. |
| 20:24.11 | CentrX | xorg7 is oly packaging differences |
| 20:24.12 | r_marvin | to put it on hold |
| 20:24.15 | jetscreamer | would an apt-get upgrade do xorg7 or would that require a dist-upgrade |
| 20:24.20 | evaded | flogisto1: No i not use it |
| 20:24.24 | flogisto1 | For faster and more ergonomic typing. |
| 20:24.32 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: yeh. i did the same for one of my machines here (a small fan) |
| 20:24.40 | stew | jetscreamer: dist-upgrade it requires many new packages to be installed to be working |
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| 20:24.55 | r_marvin | if it's the same name it'd appear in the list. at least "on hold" if it needs extra packages |
| 20:24.59 | simonrvn | although i have to move it 'cause the fan when on sets up interference on the monitor |
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| 20:25.13 | jetscreamer | simonrvn: i've had a 20" box fan in front of my open case before... it fits well, too. |
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| 20:25.25 | evaded | flogisto1: But i need somethings when i write in french with all his acsents. I use here an qwerty keyboard. Im sure i the only here in my land with an qwerty ;-) |
| 20:25.27 | simonrvn | yeh, similar size for some cases :) |
| 20:26.22 | flogisto1 | evaded: so you're french? |
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| 20:26.36 | kspath | evaded: Have you considered #debian-fr or #debian.fr or whatever? |
| 20:26.38 | kspath | !fr |
| 20:26.38 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 20:26.42 | evaded | flogisto1: Dutch then french, yes :-) from belgium |
| 20:26.53 | r_marvin | !nl |
| 20:26.53 | dpkg | .NL is the Netherlands. See http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html |
| 20:26.54 | r_marvin | ? |
| 20:26.57 | r_marvin | eh |
| 20:26.59 | flogisto1 | Ahaa. |
| 20:27.02 | r_marvin | no #debian-nl |
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| 20:27.13 | evaded | kspath: Know you the guys there on #debian-fr. Fuck this one, there are to many bad people there |
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| 20:27.20 | kspath | !de |
| 20:27.20 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
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| 20:27.39 | r_marvin | !se |
| 20:27.39 | dpkg | methinks se is Anslut till #debian.se för att snacka svenska, skriv /join debian.se |
| 20:27.48 | r_marvin | for flogisto1 |
| 20:27.52 | kspath | !be |
| 20:27.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, be is Beryllium. Belgium, or the company who made BeOS |
| 20:27.54 | evaded | Dutch an German are two differents language. The two of the three official of Belgium |
| 20:28.01 | r_marvin | !ro |
| 20:28.12 | r_marvin | heh no factoid for my country |
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| 20:28.18 | kspath | evaded: yes but German is closer to Dutch than French is. |
| 20:28.29 | flogisto1 | r_marvin: are you swedish? |
| 20:28.37 | r_marvin | no, you are |
| 20:28.38 | kspath | Romanian? |
| 20:28.38 | r_marvin | :) |
| 20:28.40 | r_marvin | yes |
| 20:28.45 | evaded | kspath: I'm Dutch an not understand German :-( |
| 20:28.46 | g0th | hi, I have a .ps file but if I print it I can't read the fonts (they look horrible) and it doesn't look at all like the output I get in gv |
| 20:28.47 | flogisto1 | Yes I am :) |
| 20:28.51 | g0th | I use cupsys |
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| 20:29.04 | Gaal_ | Hi |
| 20:29.20 | Gunman | hi, could someone help me getting my xorg server working again? |
| 20:29.21 | evaded | kspath: I want to learn english. I have learn many things here of these guys here. I like it :-) |
| 20:29.40 | evaded | Gunman: i guess the 7.0 |
| 20:29.47 | Gunman | yup -.- ... |
| 20:30.11 | stew | Gunman: /msg dpkg xorg7 |
| 20:30.25 | Braindead | should we care? |
| 20:30.27 | kspath | evaded: Is running Sarge? Are is plural. |
| 20:30.40 | kspath | flogisto1: gentoo runs you. |
| 20:30.44 | Braindead | Gunman: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 20:30.46 | flogisto1 | But I run debian on my server. |
| 20:30.46 | r_marvin | kspath: maybe he has split personality |
| 20:30.54 | streuner | !gentoosmite flogisto1 |
| 20:31.00 | evaded | kspath: I love you man, people that correct ;-) |
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| 20:31.46 | Gaal_ | i'm looking to install libosgcal0-dev, is there a way to get it using dpkg ? |
| 20:31.51 | evaded | kspath: So i learn a bit more an correct my faults. |
| 20:32.01 | kspath | flogisto1: considering |
| 20:32.05 | Gunman | Braindead: damn thanks a lot :-D |
| 20:32.19 | flogisto1 | apt-get install spellcheck. |
| 20:32.28 | evaded | For here ? |
| 20:32.37 | flogisto1 | For me. ^^ |
| 20:32.47 | evaded | I guess that there are not spellchecks on irc apps? |
| 20:32.48 | chealer | Gaal_: dpkg doesn't get packages. APT does that |
| 20:33.01 | CentrX | alt.wesley.die.die.die |
| 20:33.08 | flogisto1 | Swedes are not supposed to speake english. |
| 20:33.12 | kspath | evaded: Add spell checks to yours. |
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| 20:33.22 | Braindead | swedes are supposed to produce pr0n |
| 20:33.25 | kspath | flogisto1: speak |
| 20:33.27 | mikefoo | Anyone use spamassasian or something similar for spam here? |
| 20:33.30 | flogisto1 | Hej |
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| 20:33.41 | kspath | flogisto1: Hey! |
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| 20:33.42 | ifvoid | mikefoo: yeah |
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| 20:33.48 | r_marvin | mikefoo: server- or client-side? |
| 20:33.52 | evaded | kspath: Yes, i want, i have. But not in 'xchat' and 'irssi'. I think we can not use there an spellchecker. Right? |
| 20:33.53 | mikefoo | server |
| 20:33.59 | r_marvin | i do |
| 20:34.06 | mikefoo | You suggest it? |
| 20:34.07 | r_marvin | but i let amavis handle it :) |
| 20:34.08 | kspath | evaded: You can if you want to. |
| 20:34.10 | flogisto1 | ^^ |
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| 20:34.24 | zleap | http://www.furthernoise.org/index.php?url=page.php&ID=95&iss=53 |
| 20:34.24 | mikefoo | So maybe I should look into amavis? |
| 20:34.29 | evaded | kspath: hhhmmm. Ok i need to look for it :-) |
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| 20:34.36 | ifvoid | mikefoo: depends on the situation a bit |
| 20:34.43 | Braindead | mmm xchat should provide spelling through aspell |
| 20:34.46 | Vanzetti | hi, I have a problem with xserver-xorg on debian unstable... |
| 20:34.48 | ifvoid | mikefoo: spamassissin uses a lot of resources |
| 20:34.50 | kspath | evaded: If you can not find it than write it. |
| 20:34.57 | Vanzetti | the packet don't want to be installed |
| 20:34.58 | Braindead | Vanzetti: guess what? read the topic |
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| 20:35.22 | Braindead | http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 20:35.24 | evaded | kspath: Yes, right, you're great. |
| 20:35.30 | Braindead | please put it into topic :) |
| 20:35.34 | kspath | Vanzetti: package |
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| 20:35.34 | teclo- | Here some machine boots, until it prints "can't locate module char-major-10-135" ... then it seems to hang .. but it's alive, it answers pings |
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| 20:35.54 | stew | Braindead: its linked to from the StatusOfUnstable page |
| 20:36.18 | Braindead | stew: that's not an appealing URL for n00000bs |
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| 20:36.23 | jsmidt | How do I find out what modules there are to load for a sata cdrom? |
| 20:36.31 | Vanzetti | kspath: my problem is not listed |
| 20:36.33 | stew | Braindead: good. n000bs shouldn't be running unstable in the first place |
| 20:36.34 | Vanzetti | Pr\uffffparation du remplacement de xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 (en utilisant .../xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.12_all.deb) ... |
| 20:36.34 | Vanzetti | dpkg\uffff: erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.12_all.deb (--unpack)\uffff: |
| 20:36.34 | Vanzetti | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.34 | Vanzetti | xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/xorg.conf; file has |
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| 20:36.35 | Braindead | they can't read beyond fourth word on topic |
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| 20:36.37 | evaded | Braindead: i think i have not aspell installed, i look for it |
| 20:36.45 | jengelh | jsmidt: modprobe sr_mod |
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| 20:36.51 | Vanzetti | scuse |
| 20:36.53 | stew | Braindead: they get what they deserve then |
| 20:36.57 | Braindead | stew: yep. but I can't smack their face from here |
| 20:37.07 | kspath | Vanzetti: excuse me |
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| 20:37.17 | g0th | how do I convert a pdf file to a postscript file such that each page is scaled to a4? |
| 20:37.26 | jsmidt | jengelh, when I run that command as root I get no results |
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| 20:37.29 | stew | Vanzetti: /msg dpkg bts |
| 20:37.36 | jengelh | jsmidt: Duh. |
| 20:37.38 | TGoC | Yo people, how can i calculate how much a 420 PS uses in kWh |
| 20:37.42 | streuner | g0th: acroread? |
| 20:37.45 | jsmidt | jengelh, is there a package I need to install? |
| 20:37.49 | jengelh | jsmidt: No results == Success |
| 20:37.52 | ifvoid | g0th: pdf2ps and psresize |
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| 20:38.22 | stew | TGoC: by hooking it up to a wattmeter and seeing how much it is drawing. 420 doesn't represent how much it will be using at any given time, that depends on what it is powering |
| 20:38.23 | flogisto1 | Shadowcat: why aren't you in debian.se? |
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| 20:38.32 | rredd4 | using sarge, need help with ndiswrapper for 2.6.8-2-686 kernel. When I type ifup wlan0 i get Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0 |
| 20:38.51 | rredd4 | ndiswrapper is in my interfaces |
| 20:38.51 | TGoC | stew, let's say it does, that it does suck up 420 watt? |
| 20:39.10 | Vanzetti | stew: thanks |
| 20:39.18 | stew | TGoC: then it uses .420kWh/hour |
| 20:39.23 | jsmidt | jengelh, that's wired for it won't detect my sata cdrom. It says when I try to mount it: mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist |
| 20:39.34 | TGoC | Stew can it suck more then that? |
| 20:39.36 | Braindead | rredd4: what do you mean "ndiswrapper is in my interfaces" ? paste interfaces on pastebin and give us the url |
| 20:39.48 | stew | TGoC: yes |
| 20:39.48 | rredd4 | ok |
| 20:39.55 | g0th | streuner: acroread creates crap output |
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| 20:40.01 | TGoC | but if the PSU is 420, then there's no way it can suck more? :s |
| 20:40.04 | g0th | and pdf2ps as well |
| 20:40.08 | stew | TGoC: why? |
| 20:40.10 | g0th | pdftops looks fine |
| 20:40.10 | jengelh | try sr0 |
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| 20:40.15 | TGoC | If it can it wouldn't be a 420 watt PSU now would it? |
| 20:40.17 | Braindead | TGoC: it could catch fire,yes |
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| 20:40.37 | rredd4 | !pastebin |
| 20:40.38 | dpkg | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/, or check out http://securelabs.zapto.org/~pureone/src/pastebin.c if your stuck in console only |
| 20:40.38 | TGoC | lol Braindead, that's something totally irrevelent |
| 20:40.42 | stew | TGoC: if its going to be able to supply 420 watts it needs to either be able to draw more than 420 watts or it needs to be 100% efficient |
| 20:41.03 | kspath | TGoC: depends on the design and what you hook up to it and if the grounding is working and your cooling and dust/dirt buildup and if there is active or passive cooling and ambient air temp and and and and and |
| 20:41.05 | TGoC | Well my computer has been estimated to suck like 360 watt |
| 20:41.10 | stew | TGoC: (and nothing is 100% efficient) |
| 20:41.15 | jengelh | jsmidt : sr0 |
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| 20:41.22 | TGoC | so it can't possibly go over 420 watt right stew? |
| 20:41.27 | Braindead | TGoC: what's that,a friggin' VAX? |
| 20:41.36 | stew | TGoC: no, it must be able to go over 420 |
| 20:41.39 | abrotman | uhm .. pastebin.ca has the ability to work from console only |
| 20:41.48 | kspath | TGoC: much energy is disppated(sp?) as heat. |
| 20:41.55 | rredd4 | Braindead: oops, I meant in modules |
| 20:42.15 | TGoC | So a 420 watt PSU actually is a 500 watt PSU that keeps 420 watt to be used? |
| 20:42.18 | Braindead | rredd4: that's the point. /etc/network/interfaces has no "wlan0" stanza |
| 20:42.19 | kspath | TGoC: depends VERY much on design and quality of the PS |
| 20:42.21 | stew | TGoC: a 420 watt powersupply should be able to supply 420 watts, not draw 420 watts, to supply 420 watts it must draw more than 420 watts |
| 20:42.31 | rredd4 | Braindead: i have eth0 in interfaces now |
| 20:42.31 | redcliffe | hi - i've just done a apt-get dist-upgrade and now my X is broken on unstable - says it's missing the modules bitmap and pcidata |
| 20:42.33 | rredd4 | right |
| 20:42.35 | Braindead | rredd4: ifup != ifconfig |
| 20:42.40 | TGoC | stew: So a 420 watt PSU actually is a 500 watt PSU that keeps 420 watt to be used? |
| 20:42.44 | stew | TGoC: no |
| 20:42.47 | redcliffe | have these been moved to another package? |
| 20:43.26 | TGoC | stew let me rephrase, the PSU can suck up to 500 watt but can deliver at max: 420 watt? |
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| 20:43.35 | r_marvin | redcliffe: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 20:43.42 | stew | TGoC: how did you come up with 500watts? |
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| 20:43.52 | cary | t |
| 20:43.53 | TGoC | Just a random number that was higher then 420 |
| 20:43.55 | TGoC | could be 450 |
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| 20:43.56 | kspath | TGoC: You need to study? |
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| 20:44.01 | Braindead | rredd4: anyway /usr/share/doc is your friend,especially if you look in the dir wireless-tools ... |
| 20:44.06 | Gathond | TGoC: it might suck up more, depending on design, the 420W is also a half truth, as it depends on which voltages it need to deliver it at |
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| 20:44.12 | TGoC | kspath i need to know what my kWh is monthly |
| 20:44.14 | redcliffe | r_marvin thanks |
| 20:44.15 | rredd4 | Braindead: Ignoring unknown interface !=. Ignoring unknown interface ifconfig=ifconfig. |
| 20:44.19 | stew | TGoC: you are asking me if the random number you came up with is correct for 420 watt power supplies? |
| 20:44.21 | Braindead | rredd4: omfg |
| 20:44.30 | g0th | hmm, I did this: pdftops -level2 in.pdf out.ps, then psnup -d -4 -c -l -b 5 out.ps out4.ps; then lpr/resp gtklp out4.ps and I can't read the fonts in the printed file, besides a lot of stuff is cut (there is a big border on the left) and certain edges aren't there anymore, everything looks perfect when I view the file with gv... ??? |
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| 20:44.37 | TGoC | no stew, i was just saying it could be? |
| 20:44.39 | kspath | TGoC: You need to buy an inline monitor. |
| 20:44.52 | Braindead | rredd4: to put it simple ifup IS NOT ifconfig |
| 20:44.56 | Gathond | TGoC: but basically a 420W PSU should be able to deliver a total of 420W on the DC side of things, but to do this it might draw alot more from the wall outlet as the conversion is not 100% effective |
| 20:44.58 | TGoC | I got no money, i'm trying to save on my Power expenses to have money |
| 20:44.59 | TGoC | :P |
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| 20:45.11 | kspath | TGoC: turn off your computer |
| 20:45.16 | TGoC | kspath i know that |
| 20:45.17 | TGoC | >_> |
| 20:45.18 | stew | TGoC: yes it could be. however it would be very rare to have a power supply running at near capacity for very long |
| 20:45.36 | rredd4 | Braindead I just typed in what you typed in.... |
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| 20:45.46 | TGoC | stew give a an estimated number of watts that a 420 can suck? |
| 20:45.50 | Braindead | maybe UNDERSTAND what you're being told |
| 20:45.55 | evaded | rredd4: He have not say to do that thing there |
| 20:45.57 | Braindead | *before* doing something |
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| 20:46.11 | stew | TGoC: anywhere from 0 to somewhere above 420 |
| 20:46.12 | rredd4 | evaded: oops |
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| 20:46.27 | TGoC | stew what could be the max possible sucking? |
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| 20:46.38 | kspath | TGoC: 1200 watts likely |
| 20:46.42 | stew | TGoC: somewhere about 420 |
| 20:46.43 | TGoC | omfg |
| 20:46.46 | deadcat | i am trying to create my own .fonts.conf, but its overwhelming |
| 20:46.47 | stew | err above |
| 20:46.56 | TGoC | 1200 watts? |
| 20:46.59 | TGoC | you are crazy right? |
| 20:47.05 | kspath | TGoC: for a brief period maybe 10,000 if you drop a screw driver in it. |
| 20:47.08 | evaded | rredd4: You need to pay attention and not try what you would like to try, you need first be sure to know what you're doing! |
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| 20:47.13 | TGoC | kspath lol... |
| 20:47.23 | TGoC | There's not going to be a screw driver in it |
| 20:47.27 | kspath | TGoC: It would not be funny went it was happening. |
| 20:47.31 | kspath | when |
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| 20:47.43 | Braindead | that's the "take fire" scenario I was talking about |
| 20:47.51 | stew | TGoC: the point is that it depends on what it is powering and how much power they are drawing, not the rating of the powersupply |
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| 20:47.59 | rredd4 | evaded: me.. lol I am too new to know what I am doing, thats why I am here.. to get help |
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| 20:48.08 | redcliffe | r_marvin: just checked those things and my config and packages were correct, still no worky |
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| 20:48.12 | evaded | rredd4: Right i understand ;-) |
| 20:48.15 | TGoC | 220v is what we have here. 420 watt is what the PSU tells me to produce |
| 20:48.15 | diectur | hi, is there a way to calculate md4 hash from the console, just like it's possible to do md5sum? |
| 20:48.21 | TGoC | what's the max wattage it can suck? |
| 20:48.22 | cbeok | ~+set up x |
| 20:48.23 | apt | i guess set up x is To set up X in woody, sarge or sid, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86" (or x-window-system-core instead of xserver-xfree86 if you don't have it yet) Sometimes "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" works. dpkg-reconfigure will keep your old values as defaults ... |
| 20:48.32 | kspath | TGoC: You are asking something take can not be answered with an exact number. See specs of your PS at your PS manufacturer website. |
| 20:48.34 | rredd4 | evaded: i have googled and did what they said, now I am stuck |
| 20:48.39 | stew | TGoC: if you were to take the same computer and switch the power supply from a 420 to a 600 you should not see much of a change in the amount of power userd |
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| 20:49.04 | TGoC | my teacher told me |
| 20:49.08 | Braindead | rredd4: I'll tell you again 22:44 < Braindead> rredd4: anyway /usr/share/doc is your friend,especially if you look in the dir wireless-tools ... |
| 20:49.13 | TGoC | a computer sucks what it said it sucks |
| 20:49.18 | kspath | TGoC: if the new 600 Watt was a better and higher quality it might even use less power. |
| 20:49.19 | evaded | rredd4: Chance that command not delete the content of you're HDD :-) But nice that you would like to experiment and learn |
| 20:49.21 | stew | TGoC: he is without a doubt wrong |
| 20:49.28 | Braindead | rredd4: and man interfaces |
| 20:49.31 | TGoC | good, i'll tell him that |
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| 20:49.52 | nook | Hi. When should I change tty for X? It's tty7 but I want to change to tty12. How? |
| 20:49.57 | nook | Where* |
| 20:50.03 | Braindead | rredd4: /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian and man interfaces |
| 20:50.04 | Gaal_ | can someone help me to install osgcal ? |
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| 20:50.20 | DamianXL | euh.. |
| 20:50.21 | stew | TGoC: get him to lend you a wattmeter and prove him wrong, measure the amount of watts the powersupply is drawing when you turn it on and all of the hard drives are spinning up, then measure it again after the os is booted and idle, there will be a big difference |
| 20:50.22 | kspath | TGoC: your "teacher" needs to take some BASIC electricity courses or perhaps a good eng. physics course. |
| 20:50.24 | DamianXL | guys... |
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| 20:50.36 | DamianXL | ssh is a package that i have to install in Debian, heh? |
| 20:50.42 | jair | jair_11, hello |
| 20:50.50 | rredd4 | Braindead: ok, but I feel like I have read so much and understood some |
| 20:51.03 | TGoC | kspath he is an basic electricity teacher |
| 20:51.04 | chealer | DamianXL: why would you have to? |
| 20:51.08 | TGoC | and he told me to count a power supply |
| 20:51.09 | stew | TGoC: does he think that the powersaving cpus that slow down the cpu to make them use less power is a hoax? |
| 20:51.10 | rredd4 | evaded: lucky it didn't |
| 20:51.13 | TGoC | to 420 |
| 20:51.17 | Braindead | rredd4: read it again. |
| 20:51.18 | evaded | chealer: To not make use of telnet ;-) |
| 20:52.12 | kspath | TGoC: stew makes a GREAT point. It will surge a lot when it boots up. It will also use a lot more when active with something like a game and a 3D card. |
| 20:52.12 | nse | when a programs read from standard input and we give no input, the prompt do to next line and waits. what does it waits for? |
| 20:52.12 | TGoC | kspath yeah ok |
| 20:52.13 | TGoC | figures |
| 20:52.13 | TGoC | if your internal usage grows |
| 20:52.13 | chealer | evaded: I agree that almost sounds like a good enough reason :) |
| 20:52.13 | TGoC | your external usage grows aswell |
| 20:52.13 | kspath | TGoC: Why does it figure? |
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| 20:52.13 | TGoC | If i run a server, just CPu + Ram + MB |
| 20:52.14 | evaded | chealer: He has asked some time ago how to install telent. Some guys here had say ssh, you know ;-) |
| 20:52.14 | TGoC | no other sh*t |
| 20:52.14 | TGoC | and it has a 300 watt psu |
| 20:52.17 | TGoC | it would suck at most likes |
| 20:52.24 | TGoC | somwhere around 400? |
| 20:52.28 | kspath | TGoC: no |
| 20:52.31 | flogisto1 | TGoC: no hdd? |
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| 20:52.42 | TGoC | hehe flogisto1 my bad :p |
| 20:52.46 | TGoC | still |
| 20:52.48 | kspath | TGoC: again activity would cause more power to be used. |
| 20:53.00 | TGoC | if your internal power ussage stay's below 260 |
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| 20:53.11 | kspath | TGoC: ???? |
| 20:53.18 | TGoC | your external power usage won't be soo high aswell? |
| 20:53.21 | DamianXL | i dont know where it is.. |
| 20:53.23 | chealer | evaded: oh, I didn't remember what happened over 40 minutes ago... :S |
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| 20:53.41 | evaded | chealer: lol, idem here some days ;-) |
| 20:53.43 | chealer | DamianXL: if you want to install ssh, install the ssh package |
| 20:53.49 | rredd4 | Braindead: so far, the man pages might as well be greek. I will read the wireless tools stuff, but if I have a question... maybe someone could help please? |
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| 20:53.57 | artificed | ~+lazy x |
| 20:53.58 | apt | rumour has it, lazy x is 'apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect;dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common;apt-get install xserver-xfree86 xfree86-common'...<yazid> that lazy x recipe is misleading. on a blank system it will leave you fontless (If so, how can that be changed?), or <yazid> check that at least ... |
| 20:53.58 | DamianXL | hehe.. got it.. |
| 20:54.02 | Braindead | rredd4: if you have a question,do it |
| 20:54.04 | kspath | TGoC: the temperature of the parts in your computer and your PS will have some impact and automated things like some fans might turn on/off or change speed. |
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| 20:54.11 | kspath | TGoC: there are MANY variables. |
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| 20:54.15 | DamianXL | that means SSH should come as last |
| 20:54.20 | TGoC | i know, i understand that |
| 20:54.29 | DamianXL | i finally managed to get a static IP in INTERFACES |
| 20:54.34 | TGoC | but i want to know how much kWh my PSU's use over a month of time |
| 20:54.39 | DamianXL | but i still need to get gateway |
| 20:54.40 | rredd4 | Braindead I have been trying to get the wireless card to work for 3 days... |
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| 20:54.45 | DamianXL | and it's not in MyGateway |
| 20:54.46 | kspath | TGoC: Measure it. |
| 20:54.49 | TGoC | cause i need to tell the powerprovider what my usage is |
| 20:54.53 | DamianXL | like some docs calls it |
| 20:54.54 | TGoC | kspath how? |
| 20:54.56 | rredd4 | Braindead off to read i am... |
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| 20:55.03 | Gathond | TGoC: get a measurement device :) |
| 20:55.03 | kspath | TGoC: meters |
| 20:55.04 | evaded | DamianXL: I guess you need to access from you're M$ to that box? right? Probably you need 'putty' on you're commercial thing to make an connection to you're Debian box |
| 20:55.07 | DamianXL | so where do i get the 'gateway' file? |
| 20:55.08 | redcliffe | anyone know what packages contain the xorg modules bitmap and pcidata? |
| 20:55.18 | redcliffe | in unstable |
| 20:55.24 | DamianXL | evaded: yep... |
| 20:55.31 | evaded | DamianXL: On you're Debian box, you been install the ssh server |
| 20:55.31 | DamianXL | i'll search for putty later |
| 20:55.44 | kspath | TGoC: some digital meters have serial output that you could log over time |
| 20:55.45 | DamianXL | evaded: u mean the ssh package |
| 20:55.50 | evaded | DamianXL: yep |
| 20:56.05 | DamianXL | ok... but before i can do that, the machine must access internet |
| 20:56.05 | Braindead | DamianXL: ssh package will install both client and server |
| 20:56.14 | kspath | TGoC: you could even use spot checks with an analog meter |
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| 20:56.27 | DamianXL | so i still got to get the file where GATEWAY is configured. |
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| 20:56.31 | Braindead | DamianXL: there's no such a thing as a "gateway file" |
| 20:56.34 | Elops | what does masked packages mean? |
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| 20:56.44 | Braindead | DamianXL: man interfaces and http://qref.sf.net |
| 20:56.47 | Braindead | (once again) |
| 20:56.58 | DamianXL | ok |
| 20:56.58 | cees | Whre can I find help about mamboserver? |
| 20:57.11 | evaded | cees: On the site of mambo i guess |
| 20:57.24 | kspath | TGoC: have you considered using a laptop or a lower power computer that only uses 13-35 watts. |
| 20:57.46 | evaded | cees: On #mambo there are no many people i see |
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| 20:58.13 | evaded | cees: Is there not an forum on the website? |
| 20:58.14 | DamianXL | ok |
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| 20:58.29 | g0th | hmm |
| 20:58.39 | g0th | I have a .ps file that looks horrible if I print it |
| 20:58.47 | kspath | TGoC: stew gave you some good ideas already. Measure power usage at boot and during idle and during busy time and use those to determine what you use on average and add a bit just in case for margin of error. |
| 20:58.48 | g0th | it looks ok if I do ps2pdf and print the pdf |
| 20:58.52 | javaman | Is anyone able to tell me where the s3virge driver is getting put into the sarge net installer? I'm trying to load a new kernel and can not find anywhere the s3virge video module. |
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| 20:58.53 | g0th | what could that be? |
| 20:59.03 | evaded | cees: What are the problem of it? |
| 20:59.09 | g0th | the file was created by: pdftops, then psnup with some options |
| 20:59.19 | evaded | cees: I mean about mambo on Debian? Get some troubles? |
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| 20:59.29 | stew | TGoC: there are also devices that you can buy that sit between the plug and the wall and will monitor the machine for 24 hours and give you estimated kwh/month |
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| 20:59.39 | TGoC | kspath can't i go for sure that a 300 watt PSU uses 302 kWh (Wich i calculated with 420 real suckage as avarage) |
| 20:59.43 | TGoC | can i say that's ok |
| 20:59.49 | TGoC | i just need to know a number |
| 20:59.52 | TGoC | it doesn't has to be exact |
| 20:59.55 | g0th | hmm and the final file is cut at the borders |
| 21:00.02 | kspath | TGoC: if you want to make up a number go ahead. |
| 21:00.04 | g0th | the border should be _much_ smaller though |
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| 21:00.10 | g0th | can I somehow specify the bordersize? |
| 21:00.17 | r_marvin | evaded: i installed mambo once on Debian, no major problems as long as you have php and whatever it needs |
| 21:00.29 | r_marvin | that is, if we're talking about the same thing |
| 21:00.29 | cees | evaded: Hi, my site is now as HACKED BY AIRXONIC, what can I do? |
| 21:00.41 | evaded | cees: abuses? |
| 21:00.42 | TGoC | cees protect your site better? |
| 21:00.47 | jengelh | lear to secure your box |
| 21:00.50 | jengelh | learn |
| 21:00.55 | kspath | TGoC: If you only have to convince yourself and your powerprovider than it is between you two. |
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| 21:01.06 | stew | cees: /msg dpkg security debian |
| 21:01.10 | TGoC | kspath i just need to know a raw usage |
| 21:01.20 | cees | yap. Is there any way to recover some? Or I will have to reinstall all |
| 21:01.28 | TGoC | What's the avarage usage of a PSU |
| 21:01.32 | g0th | what config files deal with such things? |
| 21:01.40 | stew | TGoC: #hardware |
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| 21:01.43 | evaded | stew: not work |
| 21:01.50 | stew | oh |
| 21:01.55 | stew | cees: /msg dpkg securing debian |
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| 21:02.05 | cees | what is AIRXONIC? |
| 21:02.07 | jengelh | tgoc: 1 harddisk, amd 2000, no monitor => 100 W |
| 21:02.11 | evaded | stew: Right :-) |
| 21:02.18 | kspath | TGoC: what is the average usage of #debian? That is not a useful question. As stew pointed out it is mostly off-topic for #debian anyway. |
| 21:02.30 | Klohunt | hmm... Im having real trouble configuring the gnome dropdown menu to only include the programs/categories I want :S On Google, Ive read several guides that tell me how to do it with a configuration menu that just isnt on my system... Can anyone help me? |
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| 21:03.11 | jair | guys a question of newbie, i was reading info about sco unix stuff and it came to my mind How many processors can the linux operating system support for example the kernel 2.6.8-2-686? or the smp? |
| 21:03.31 | jengelh | jair: at least 64... sgi has some phat boxes |
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| 21:03.54 | jair | jengelh, where could i find more information about this? |
| 21:03.55 | jengelh | 2.6.8-2 I do not know. |
| 21:03.59 | redcliffe | anyone know which unstable package contains the pcidata and bitmap modules in xorg? |
| 21:04.02 | stew | jair: currently linux will suport 64 cpus |
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| 21:04.18 | seb- | what is app to play flash? |
| 21:04.20 | redcliffe | found a couple of suggestions on blogs but none work so far |
| 21:04.27 | jair | jengelh, the debian stable with the kernel 2.6 can do that or I will need to compile the kernel? |
| 21:04.28 | seb- | i don't suppose there is an open source flash player? |
| 21:04.37 | jengelh | dunno, I don't actively use debian |
| 21:04.40 | redcliffe | i've done dkpg-reconfigure on xserver-xorg-core as well as xserver-xorg |
| 21:04.42 | Nihilanth | seb-: check out gnash |
| 21:04.44 | jengelh | and I neither have more than 4 CPUs at once |
| 21:04.51 | jair | stew, jengelh and that mean that exist a motherboard with 64 CPUs on it? |
| 21:05.01 | jengelh | Maximum number of CPUs (2-255) |
| 21:05.07 | Nihilanth | seb-: not with high standards though |
| 21:05.09 | jengelh | So there we are, kconfig says max CPUs is 255 |
| 21:05.19 | seb- | Nihilanth: apt-cache search flash gave me flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:05.20 | stew | jair: i've seen sun machiens with as many as 72 cpus |
| 21:05.25 | r_marvin | Seb: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree for the macromedia one |
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| 21:05.37 | Seb | r_marvin: thx ;) |
| 21:05.38 | jengelh | jair : As I said, SGI manufacturers such big boxes (with over 30 processors), their Altix row may have some. |
| 21:05.40 | jair | stew, whatttttttttttt really? |
| 21:05.51 | stew | jair: really |
| 21:05.51 | r_marvin | there is also swf-player , but i had some problems with it |
| 21:06.04 | jair | stew, do you have a link ? |
| 21:06.08 | jengelh | Look at sgi.com and see for yourself. I can't remember exactly but they might as well have as much as 512 cpus |
| 21:06.17 | jair | i ok |
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| 21:06.42 | spikex | hi |
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| 21:06.50 | jair | I will check that stew and jengelh but what about the kernel 2.6 or even 2.4 or I need to compile it? |
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| 21:07.12 | jengelh | From SGI website: "SGI Altix 4700 incorporates the shared-memory NUMAflexâ„¢ architecture, which simplifies software development, workload management and system administration. It supports up to 512 processors under one instance of Linux and as much as 128TB of globally shared memory." |
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| 21:07.33 | spikex | yo |
| 21:07.55 | Nihilanth | seb-: there is a free flash in testing, i believe, i forget what it's called though |
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| 21:07.59 | kspath | !numa |
| 21:08.00 | dpkg | from memory, numa is better then SMP any day!, or non-uniform memory access - distributed memory |
| 21:08.18 | stew | jair: http://search.ebay.com/9713734076 |
| 21:08.22 | seb- | Nihilanth: i just got macromedia one..how tell firefox to use it? |
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| 21:08.55 | Braindead | seb-: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree ,then just launch ffox |
| 21:09.02 | artificed | Wonderingxserver-xfree86 xfree86-commonxserver-xfree86 xfree86-common it's called though |
| 21:09.07 | Braindead | (you've already been told) |
| 21:09.26 | seb- | Braindead: i did that! firefox still doesn't see it! |
| 21:09.45 | Braindead | seb-: are you sure it got installed? |
| 21:09.52 | TGoC | stew? |
| 21:09.56 | TGoC | One last question |
| 21:09.56 | Nihilanth | seb-: about:plugins - see if it's listed |
| 21:09.57 | redcliffe | hrmm i've uninstalled xorg, and now trying to reinstall it i've got an error, xserver-xorg failed to preconfigure with exit status 64 |
| 21:10.02 | Braindead | it fetched the tar.gz from the web and so on? |
| 21:10.15 | seb- | Braindead: (seberino /home/seberino) % dpkg --get-selections | grep flash |
| 21:10.15 | seb- | flashplugin-nonfree install |
| 21:10.21 | TGoC | If my wall has 220v, and my internal voltage is 12v then the PSU makes 220 to 12v so it takes less WATT |
| 21:10.35 | Braindead | seb-: that's not the plugin,that's a plugin that fetches it |
| 21:10.44 | kspath | TGoC: 220 is AC and 12 is DC |
| 21:11.00 | seb- | Nihilanth: about:plugins? is that from ff menu? i don't see about |
| 21:11.27 | kspath | TGoC: go to wikipedia or elsewhere and study about PS and power converters and rectifiers and such. |
| 21:11.27 | Nihilanth | seb-: er, in the address bar |
| 21:11.31 | Braindead | /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin to bre precise |
| 21:11.56 | kspath | TGoC: the numbers are averages in Volts 220 AC and 12 DC. |
| 21:11.59 | seb- | Nihilanth: great...."No plug-ins are installed" |
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| 21:12.35 | seb- | Braindead: No new version is detected. ( = not installed) |
| 21:12.39 | Braindead | did a say "a plugin that fetches it"? crap I need to sleep. I meant script |
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| 21:12.57 | seb- | Braindead: i ran your update-flashplugin |
| 21:13.00 | Braindead | well, --force-update than |
| 21:13.02 | Braindead | then |
| 21:13.02 | jair | stew, jengelh thank you very much, where do you guys get this facts from? |
| 21:13.15 | stew | TGoC: i'm not sure i understand what you are asking, but whether you supply your powersupply with 110 or 220 shouldn't make a big difference in how much it draws |
| 21:13.29 | maxxle | I want to install a broken package. What is the option for aptitude or apt-get to avoid checking dependencies? |
| 21:13.50 | seb- | Braindead: no dice...i can't download either... i think macromedia site is down |
| 21:13.55 | evaded | maxxle: apt-get instal -f package?? |
| 21:13.58 | Braindead | that's the point |
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| 21:14.22 | evaded | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:14.30 | Braindead | seb-: if you find a suitable tar.gz somewhere,you can feed it manually to the script. see the man |
| 21:14.34 | kspath | TGoC: 110 AC is common in US at 60 Hz while many other places might use 50Hz and 220 AV |
| 21:14.47 | kspath | at |
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| 21:14.58 | maxxle | oh... so easy? And I double-checked the manpage for an --no-dependencies option |
| 21:15.24 | evaded | maxxle: You need to force the installation i guess |
| 21:15.31 | evaded | maxxle: -f |
| 21:15.35 | kspath | TGoC: try to find stuff in wikipedia about power supplies and read all the related stuffs. |
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| 21:15.39 | seb- | Braindead: thanks for your help..the package i downloaded allowed me to run your update-flashplugin command right? |
| 21:15.47 | maxxle | evaded: Yes, it works the way with '-f' |
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| 21:16.13 | tracer- | anybody know why .. when i use the mail() function in php it takes like 30 seconds for the page load.. |
| 21:16.14 | jair | stew, thank you very much for the hardware example, I think is amazing. |
| 21:16.21 | evaded | maxxle: Like you know you have forced it, probably you need to force it when you will remove it |
| 21:16.21 | Braindead | seb-: yep,that script is in the flashplugin-nonfree package. see dpkg -L |
| 21:16.26 | tracer- | the sendmail seems to be going awsomely slow |
| 21:16.28 | kspath | TGoC: learn what Volts Watts Amps and other units mean while you are at it. |
| 21:16.32 | redcliffe | can anyone tell me what exit status 64 means when apt-get is trying to preconfigure a package for installation? |
| 21:16.33 | mrobache | stew: hello again, I just upload my packet on mentors.debian.net, what should I do next ? |
| 21:16.54 | jair | stew, now if I get the netinst cd from debian sarge, and I want to make it work on that sun server I just install it like in any other machine? |
| 21:17.25 | maxxle | evaded: Oh. Sorry! It does not work this way. He gives me the solution that the packages won't be installed. |
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| 21:17.28 | stew | mrobache: subscribe to debian-mentors. send an "RFC" (request for comments) to the list to get others to critique your pacakging. look at some of the other RFCs that have recently been filed as an example |
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| 21:18.01 | evaded | maxxle: Probably you need to force a bit more. But that's not good to force some things... |
| 21:18.01 | jair | jelly, hello my european friend, i am so sorry i haven't speak with you in a while, i back up my pc and I do not know where did I out your email. |
| 21:18.09 | jair | jelly, you are from croatia right? |
| 21:18.23 | stew | jair: "/msg dpkg ig" there is an install guide for sparc |
| 21:18.33 | jair | jelly, or ukraine :( |
| 21:18.37 | redcliffe | error i'm getting is "sub-process preinstallation script returned exit status 64" |
| 21:18.44 | jair | stew, ok |
| 21:19.05 | redcliffe | for some stupid reason i can't find anything on google re what error status numbers mean |
| 21:19.14 | stew | redcliffe: xorg7? |
| 21:19.25 | redcliffe | stew: yep, xserver-xorg package |
| 21:19.32 | mrobache | stew: i think their is no news in the packet I upload, only the maintainer name, is it important ? |
| 21:19.59 | stew | redcliffe: its a known bug with no known solution i believe, though there might have been updates in the last 24 hours, /msg dpkg bts |
| 21:20.07 | maxxle | evaded: How can it be forced 'a bit more'? |
| 21:20.10 | redcliffe | stew: ah ok thanks |
| 21:20.19 | stew | mrobache: is it linda and lintian clean? |
| 21:20.20 | mentor | feh |
| 21:20.53 | mrobache | stew: hardly: 2 warnings with lintian |
| 21:20.54 | maxxle | evaded: I know what I do... just a little thing with a mplayer package that has no gui. But I don't need the GUI. I only need the console based version. |
| 21:20.56 | evaded | maxxle: Euhm, i not know, i'm looking in the man pages |
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| 21:21.44 | E-bola | I have a problem with my server soemtimes freezing (Or atleast thats what seems to happen, i dont got a screen connected) I cant connect to it via either lan nor wan. So i hard reboot it. But nothing is left in logs. They just stop at the point wher eit froze, what can ause this? And how can i get information about what happens? |
| 21:22.01 | jair | jelly, hello? |
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| 21:22.20 | biesi | is there a way to downgrade the binutils in debian unstable w/o removing all kinds of packages? (in other words, is there a package available that's older than the current one in unstable, but newer than in stable?) |
| 21:22.32 | mrobache | stew: W: music123 source: changelog-should-mention-nmu |
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| 21:22.43 | evaded | maxxle: With '--force-yes' ?? |
| 21:22.46 | mrobache | stew: W: music123 source: source-nmu-has-incorrect-version-number 14.3 |
| 21:22.53 | Braindead | biesi: http://snapshot.debian.net |
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| 21:23.15 | evaded | maxxle: -f is for fixing missing packages etc. I was wrong before. But -f do nothings bad that i know |
| 21:23.37 | evaded | maxxle: I have find it in 'man apt-get' |
| 21:23.49 | biesi | Braindead, awesome, thank you! |
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| 21:24.18 | kspath | evaded: have found |
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| 21:24.34 | evaded | kspath: :-) |
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| 21:25.09 | maxxle | evaded: No, still not installable. Still a problem with 'unmet dependencies' |
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| 21:25.40 | stew | mrobache: it thinks you are doing an nmu because the changelog entry doesn't match the maintainer in the control file |
| 21:25.42 | evaded | maxxle: I guess then, it's impossible?? |
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| 21:26.01 | DamianXL | here i am again |
| 21:26.06 | DamianXL | i have internet on the Debian box |
| 21:26.07 | mrobache | stew: i'm checking |
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| 21:26.16 | DamianXL | and i used APT to get the packages to install |
| 21:26.22 | DamianXL | but i can't find the SSH package |
| 21:26.25 | stew | mrobache: in anycase, if you aren't making big change to the packaging, send a RFC/RFS (request for comments/sponsors) to the list |
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| 21:26.27 | humbolt | is there a way to pipe all http connections originating from my layptop through another machine via ssh? Somehow an ssh VPN? |
| 21:26.32 | kspath | DamianXL: define find... |
| 21:26.38 | Ronin | DamianXL: defince cant find |
| 21:26.38 | Braindead | DamianXL: ssh,not SSH |
| 21:26.54 | stew | humbolt: man ssh, look at the -F and -L options |
| 21:26.58 | Braindead | humbolt: yup,poor man's vpn |
| 21:27.00 | evaded | DamianXL: apt |
| 21:27.03 | evaded | oeps |
| 21:27.07 | humbolt | And all this without distracting the port 80 connections coming into this machine? |
| 21:27.11 | evaded | DamianXL: apt-cache search <package> |
| 21:27.13 | DamianXL | there are many packages to install |
| 21:27.15 | g0th | I try again: When I print a certain .pdf file the borders are cut (white), what is the reason for this and hwo do I prevent the cut? |
| 21:27.18 | kspath | DamianXL: apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search ssh |
| 21:27.19 | g0th | it isn't cut if I view the .pdf file with eg. xpdf |
| 21:27.25 | evaded | DamianXL: You not need all |
| 21:27.35 | Braindead | DamianXL: is this a server *YOU* are gonna use remotely? |
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| 21:27.38 | DamianXL | i understand i don't need all |
| 21:27.42 | Ronin | evaded: working on your yoda? |
| 21:27.47 | DamianXL | Braindead: yep |
| 21:27.49 | maxxle | ebaded: I know that there is an option. Maybe I have to use dpkg. I will figure this out and if I know the solution I come back. |
| 21:27.49 | Braindead | DamianXL: good luck. |
| 21:27.52 | mrobache | stew: ok i'm sorry but what are the exact information i should give in the request ? |
| 21:27.52 | sud0n1m | I have to install PHP with mssql support - is this difficult in Debian? |
| 21:27.56 | evaded | Ronin: yoda? |
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| 21:28.14 | stew | mrobache: look at the other RFS postings in the archives, you'll get the idea |
| 21:28.17 | DamianXL | Braindead: :/ |
| 21:28.19 | Ronin | evaded: you not need all :) starting to sound like yoda from star wars talking |
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| 21:28.34 | shaula | what is wrong with that sources.list addres i get an error :( --> "Err http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80]" |
| 21:28.36 | Marudubshinki | If I want to improve a man page, do I email the person who wrote the man page, or file a wishlist bug report? |
| 21:28.44 | evaded | Ronin: Lol, im missing the star wars. apt-get him ;-) |
| 21:28.45 | Braindead | DamianXL: sorry dude,it seems quite clear you don't have,err... you don't have a fucking clue of what you're doing |
| 21:28.53 | Ronin | :) |
| 21:28.55 | mrobache | stew: of course sorry |
| 21:29.10 | DamianXL | Braindead: i come from a WinNT based webserver |
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| 21:29.21 | DamianXL | and yes.. i'm trying to use debian cuz it's stable |
| 21:29.22 | stoned | DamianXL, sorry |
| 21:29.25 | g0th | anyone? |
| 21:29.26 | evaded | shaula: Try another source?? |
| 21:29.27 | kspath | DamianXL: point-and-click sysadmin? |
| 21:29.29 | Braindead | DamianXL: and so? you still don't have a fucking clue :) |
| 21:29.31 | shaula | and it says : "Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-security/dists/testing/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80]" |
| 21:29.34 | evaded | shaula: apt-setup? |
| 21:29.39 | DamianXL | kspath: no... not a sysadmin.. |
| 21:29.43 | DamianXL | just doing this at home. |
| 21:29.51 | humbolt | Braindead stew: I know the -L option but this seems to be used if I want to "reroute" a connection to a specific local port to somewhere else. But I want to reroute all offgoing connections to port 80 through a tunnel. |
| 21:30.06 | Marudubshinki | If I want to improve a man page's lack of usefulness, do I email the person who wrote the man page, or file a wishlist bug report? |
| 21:30.08 | DamianXL | if i was a sysadmin, i could affort to let them pay for me to get some serious Linux knowledge |
| 21:30.09 | shaula | evaded, i tried from other mirrors it is the same |
| 21:30.10 | humbolt | Braindead stew: I don't see how that could work with -L |
| 21:30.10 | stoned | I would castrate myself before personally using windows. at work I have to, but at home, HELL NO |
| 21:30.20 | evaded | shaula: Sur you have Internet? |
| 21:30.22 | kspath | DamianXL: openssh has two important parts the ssh client and the ssh server sshd |
| 21:30.25 | lostson | hmm i have to pay more attention to apt-get im already at gnome 2.14 |
| 21:30.37 | evaded | shaula: Can you ping Google for example? |
| 21:30.41 | Ronin | and on a server you'll likely only need the server part as you wont likely be sshing out |
| 21:30.44 | stew | humbolt: you could use a http proxy server that was on the other side of the ssh link |
| 21:30.48 | shaula | evaded, yes other sources.list lines work without problem |
| 21:31.07 | Marudubshinki | If I want to improve a man page's lack of usefulness, do I email the person who wrote the man page, or file a wishlist bug report? |
| 21:31.08 | DamianXL | i understand so far that i need the ssh server installed on debian |
| 21:31.11 | shaula | evaded, the problem is only with fwe lines about the testing |
| 21:31.15 | evaded | shaula: I guess the other servers are down momentally |
| 21:31.15 | DamianXL | the problem isn't understanding the idea... |
| 21:31.21 | DamianXL | the problem is getting the package |
| 21:31.26 | mrobache | stew: the problem is that the package I updated does not figure in the directory tree on mentors.debian.net. is there a latence time ? |
| 21:31.27 | Braindead | the problem is the lack of RTFM |
| 21:31.28 | stew | DamianXL: apt-get install openssh-server |
| 21:31.33 | Ronin | DamianXL: apt, nevermind |
| 21:31.41 | evaded | shaula: Have see the same trouble today on my laptop(testing) |
| 21:31.45 | stew | mrobache: did you get an email after uploading? |
| 21:31.52 | mrobache | stew: no |
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| 21:32.01 | kspath | DamianXL: next time apt-cache search ssh |
| 21:32.04 | stew | mrobache: you should get one sometime soon |
| 21:32.06 | Marudubshinki | it's not a hard question guys. To improve a man page, do I file a bug report with my suggestions or email directly the person listed as having written it for Debian? |
| 21:32.15 | DamianXL | i DID search for ssh |
| 21:32.18 | evaded | shaula: So i really guess that there are one or two servers down |
| 21:32.21 | Braindead | DamianXL: it's at least the third time I'm telling you http://qref.sf.net |
| 21:32.21 | mrobache | stew: ok so i'm waiting for this email |
| 21:32.24 | DamianXL | i found different packages... with SSH in the name |
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| 21:32.31 | DamianXL | but not just "SSH" |
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| 21:32.39 | shaula | evaded, that is actually not the first time i am facing the problem. thanks for your information i hope it is about servers |
| 21:32.45 | Braindead | DamianXL: DAMN, ssh , not SSH |
| 21:32.45 | kspath | DamianXL: did you read about any of them? |
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| 21:33.11 | evaded | shaula: I can say you to test the next day... |
| 21:33.27 | DamianXL | kspath: yep. One is a fileserver based on ssh |
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| 21:33.36 | DamianXL | and the other one seems to be an ssh client |
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| 21:33.40 | DamianXL | Braindead: chill |
| 21:33.40 | Marudubshinki | If I want to improve a man page's lack of usefulness, do I email the person who wrote the man page, or file a wishlist bug report? |
| 21:33.46 | Braindead | DamianXL: ssh. just install that package. |
| 21:33.49 | shaula | evaded, ok. thank you very much. |
| 21:33.58 | maxxle | evaded: It looks that there is a solution to install a broken package with dpkg. "dpkg -i --force-depends": Turn all dependency problems into warnings. (dpkg-manpage) |
| 21:34.01 | Braindead | it will install openssh-server AND openssh-client |
| 21:34.05 | Ronin | Marudubshinki: we saw you the first 4 times |
| 21:34.21 | evaded | maxxle: Have it solve you're problem? |
| 21:34.21 | DamianXL | i understand |
| 21:34.28 | chealer | !tell Marudubshinki about repeat |
| 21:34.30 | Marudubshinki | Ronin: I'm sure. and I'm a little annoyed cause I want to help, but no one will answer the simplest question. |
| 21:34.42 | stew | maxxle: that is only temporary, the next time you try to use the pacakge system they will become errors again |
| 21:34.43 | chealer | Marudubshinki: who's the manpage author? |
| 21:34.48 | DamianXL | Since i dont have any KVM switches.. i must literally disconnect my monitor and connect it to the linux-box |
| 21:34.52 | Ronin | Marudubshinki: then consider that maybe no one in knows the answer? |
| 21:34.54 | maxxle | stew: I can put them on hold. |
| 21:35.03 | stew | Marudubshinki: file a wishlist bug with a patch |
| 21:35.03 | Marudubshinki | chealer: Ken Bloom |
| 21:35.06 | DamianXL | so don't type anything anymore.... I'm diving back into debian |
| 21:35.12 | DamianXL | later! |
| 21:35.14 | Braindead | DamianXL: you won't need to do such a thing after installing the ssh server,that's the point |
| 21:35.15 | chealer | Marudubshinki: and which manpage? |
| 21:35.19 | kspath | DamianXL: BOO! |
| 21:35.22 | maxxle | evaded: Yes. But I think I can live with a non-GUI-Version of mplayer for some time until this is fixed |
| 21:35.26 | Marudubshinki | chealer: link-grammar |
| 21:35.28 | stew | maxxle: no, it won't work, you can't just ignore the dependencies, why can you satisfy the dependencies properly? |
| 21:35.30 | DamianXL | Braindead: that's why i'm doing it.. |
| 21:35.33 | Ronin | kspath: heh i was about to say lets all type DamianXL ;) |
| 21:35.42 | Braindead | DamianXL: BEEP |
| 21:35.49 | Braindead | ahaha |
| 21:35.50 | evaded | maxxle: I neet to not forget you're solution ;-) thanks for you're info :-) |
| 21:35.57 | evaded | s/neet/need |
| 21:35.59 | maxxle | evaded: no problem |
| 21:36.17 | stew | evaded: it's not a solution |
| 21:36.31 | evaded | stew: How so? |
| 21:36.31 | maxxle | stew: You mean the package get's deleted next time? I don't think so. |
| 21:36.38 | chealer | Marudubshinki: the author is the package maintainer. he'll get a mail just by opening a bug |
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| 21:36.42 | stew | maxxle: you'll see |
| 21:37.03 | evaded | stew: When he do an 'upgrade' ? |
| 21:37.05 | Marudubshinki | chealer: very well. Thanks. |
| 21:37.05 | maxxle | stew: But why should be an option to hold a package then? This will work. I'm sure |
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| 21:37.08 | Honeyman | Hello. Any ideas why an iptables script can not work when executed during system bootup ("iptables v1.3.3: invalid port/service `80:83' specified"), and perfectly work when executed manually? |
| 21:37.10 | kspath | evaded: does |
| 21:37.12 | stew | evaded: because the next time he tries to do anything it will complain about the dependency |
| 21:37.19 | kspath | evaded: he/she/it does singular |
| 21:37.21 | evaded | kspath: :-) |
| 21:37.23 | tarzeau | can someone tell me a polnish sentence and the same sentence in english please? |
| 21:37.28 | stew | maxxle: so that a package won't be upgraded |
| 21:37.36 | abrotman | tarzeau: babelfish ? |
| 21:37.44 | stew | maxxle: but putting a pacakge on hold doesn't mean that its dependencies no longer need to be satisfied |
| 21:37.51 | abrotman | doh .. no polish |
| 21:37.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: no, polish |
| 21:37.59 | j-run | tarzeau: gdny dnrchwich snydrsjhnckzz zdnrkdj |
| 21:38.00 | evaded | stew: Right, and that's big shit |
| 21:38.05 | tarzeau | j-run: ha ha |
| 21:38.08 | j-run | tarzeau: "hello", ing english |
| 21:38.16 | tarzeau | seriously, this is important |
| 21:38.17 | j-run | ;) |
| 21:38.22 | abrotman | tarzeau: google ? |
| 21:38.25 | kspath | tarzeau: Czy mowisz po polsku? Do you speak Polish? |
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| 21:38.43 | abrotman | http://www.poltran.com/ |
| 21:38.44 | tarzeau | kspath: yes i can, is what? |
| 21:38.46 | abrotman | http://www.polish-dictionary.com/ |
| 21:38.47 | maxxle | stew: Ah! Now I know what you mean. It's clear that you can't solve the dependency Problem. itself But it means that you can install a package although there are problems with the dependency. |
| 21:38.47 | tarzeau | kspath: thank you |
| 21:38.49 | dimir | Jest ktos z polski!??!??!??! |
| 21:38.52 | HolyGoat | hm.. wmv9 support is not in w32codecs anymore? |
| 21:39.00 | tarzeau | dimir: means what? |
| 21:39.05 | tarzeau | dimir: yes i speak polish |
| 21:39.10 | kspath | Jest ~= this/that |
| 21:39.14 | tarzeau | and what means "tak" ? |
| 21:39.14 | dimir | Terminus: is there anyone from Poland. |
| 21:39.16 | maxxle | stew: And in my example it means that I get a solution I can work with. |
| 21:39.21 | kspath | tarzeau: tak is yes |
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| 21:39.26 | kspath | tarzeau: da is yes |
| 21:39.31 | kspath | tarzeau: si is yes |
| 21:39.35 | kspath | tarzeau: hi is yes |
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| 21:39.39 | dimir | Terze: is there anyone from Poland. |
| 21:39.40 | kspath | tarzeau: yah is yes |
| 21:39.44 | dimir | damn |
| 21:39.50 | stew | maxxle: but you need to solve the dependency before you install any other package |
| 21:39.51 | evaded | russ |
| 21:39.52 | dimir | tarzeau ^^ |
| 21:39.53 | dimir | :-) |
| 21:39.56 | mrobache | stew: have I to gnupg-sign each file before uploading ? |
| 21:40.10 | chealer | HolyGoat: it should be |
| 21:40.14 | kspath | Gdzie jest? |
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| 21:40.32 | evaded | ha ^^ |
| 21:40.34 | j-run | tarzeau: Polski Projekt Dokumentacji Debiana |
| 21:40.35 | evaded | pl |
| 21:40.36 | tarzeau | to jest dobrze |
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| 21:40.46 | tarzeau | what's that? |
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| 21:40.50 | kspath | tarzeau: that/this/it is good |
| 21:40.51 | j-run | "Debian documentation project" |
| 21:40.55 | maxxle | stew: This will do the package maintainer in a few days. Then the broken package is up and working again. Until then I can live without a GUI for my mplayer-package. |
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| 21:41.08 | evaded | mike : From Poland? |
| 21:41.19 | dimir | CZESC! |
| 21:41.23 | kspath | Hello |
| 21:41.27 | dimir | :-D |
| 21:41.39 | tarzeau | nazywam si manuela |
| 21:41.48 | tarzeau | is that a polish name? |
| 21:41.52 | j-run | just scatter loads of z's, and you have instant polish |
| 21:41.56 | HolyGoat | chealer: apt-file search wmv9dmod.dll gives me nothing |
| 21:41.58 | stew | mrobache: not every file, just the .changes iirc |
| 21:42.06 | stew | mrobache: there should be instructions on the site |
| 21:42.08 | kspath | manuela is not a regular polish name |
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| 21:42.29 | abrotman | !tell _root about root |
| 21:42.32 | evaded | maxxle: Or wait a bit, the time it's solved?? |
| 21:42.41 | kspath | tarzeau: I am not fluent in |
| 21:42.43 | salid | hi |
| 21:42.47 | kspath | tarzeau: I am not fluent in any languages. |
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| 21:42.56 | HolyGoat | chealer: Hm. I just found out that I do have the file locally. That's odd. Totem is complaining about WMV..err.. 8 support, heh. But I think it's the same DLL. |
| 21:42.58 | kspath | tarzeau: That includes English. |
| 21:43.32 | mrobache | stew: oh yes i did not see instructions i should also use debsign ? |
| 21:43.35 | kspath | tarzeau: "nazywam si manuela" does not look like standard polish to me. |
| 21:43.52 | HolyGoat | chealer: Oh, locate cache I think. One second. |
| 21:43.59 | kspath | tarzeau: I will get my multi-lingual dictionary (slownik) |
| 21:44.08 | stew | mrobache: yeah or the -kGPGID option to dpkg-buildpackage |
| 21:44.29 | mrobache | stew: well thank u |
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| 21:45.31 | HolyGoat | chealer: apparently the file location changed. I'll just see if symlinking helps. |
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| 21:45.51 | Rug | howdy all |
| 21:46.11 | chealer | HolyGoat: OK...anyway, tell me if you are unable to resolve |
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| 21:47.02 | kspath | tarzeau: It would appear to be a slavik language but maybe not Polish. |
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| 21:48.05 | stouset | So that was one of the more stupid things I've done. |
| 21:48.15 | tarzeau | kspath: ok thank you |
| 21:48.18 | kspath | tarzeau: nazywac in polish is call a name it might go by |
| 21:48.25 | stouset | "Hey, I wonder what will happen if I do 'qemu -hda /home/hda'?" |
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| 21:48.51 | stouset | And of course, it boots off of /dev/hda, mounts and recovers journals on already-running filesystems, etc. |
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| 21:49.12 | HolyGoat | chealer: It seems that the file locations changed when I upgraded w32codecs. It is now /usr/lib/codecs instead of /usr/lib/win32. Symlinking from codecs to win32 fixed it. |
| 21:49.31 | chealer | HolyGoat: good |
| 21:49.41 | kspath | tarzeau: si might be is typoed |
| 21:49.43 | glut | kspath: the sentence you're talking about is almost polish, but with a mistake |
| 21:49.55 | Rug | NFS troubles here, I just re-installed my server (lots of SegFaults) and whenever I try to mount an FNS share I get an RPC error. URL/Faq/help? |
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| 21:49.59 | kspath | glut: yes, that might be it. |
| 21:50.02 | mzuverink | I have been running Ubuntu and want to switch to Debian. However I do not want to go back to an earlier version of Gnome. is Gnome 2.12 or 2.14 available for the most recent release of Debian? |
| 21:50.21 | stouset | mzuverink: It's in sid. Only use sid if you know what you're doing. |
| 21:50.29 | glut | kspath: si should be siê, which means 'my name is manuela' |
| 21:50.38 | chealer | mzuverink: no |
| 21:51.01 | mzuverink | stoutset: sid is the testing or unstable banch of debian? |
| 21:51.22 | stouset | mzuverink: If you really want bleeding-edge but tested desktop software, there's probably little reason for you to use Debian. |
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| 21:51.24 | HolyGoat | chealer: That's a bit nasty though. Totem/kaffeine etc. will look in /usr/lib/win32 still. |
| 21:51.27 | stouset | mzuverink: unstable |
| 21:51.30 | kspath | glut: I am going to guess it was fast typing or someone that is still learning the language. |
| 21:51.34 | HolyGoat | (unless symlinked of course) |
| 21:51.55 | glut | kspath: agree on that |
| 21:52.03 | mzuverink | stouset: so then then 2.08 is what is shipped in 3.1r1? |
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| 21:52.26 | kspath | glut: I have not yet made any real effort to learn Polish. |
| 21:52.41 | glut | kspath: I could be even a native polish speaker, typing too fast |
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| 21:52.57 | Rug | nevermind. /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart solved it. |
| 21:53.13 | obscuresoul | how can i print in my windows' printer? |
| 21:53.36 | kspath | glut: The si and the name not appearing Polish but rather latin like caused me a lot of confusion. |
| 21:53.42 | chealer | mzuverink: GNOME 2.8 is in Debian 3.1 |
| 21:53.51 | stouset | mzuverink: I haven't the faintest. |
| 21:53.53 | glut | kspath: it's hard language to learn |
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| 21:54.10 | mzuverink | chealer: Thats what I meant 2.8. Thanks though. |
| 21:54.22 | glut | kspath: it's easy to guess for natice polish, but agree, it might be hard for anyone else |
| 21:54.36 | j-run | glut: for software too :) |
| 21:54.46 | Honeyman | Strange thing, like it "--match multiport" does not fully work for iptables during bootup (does not allow "port:port" range syntax), but starts to work later, when executed manually... |
| 21:55.15 | glut | j-run: for software it might be impossible to guess such a typo |
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| 21:55.28 | j-run | glut: we had to rewrite some software at work to handle language strangeness single/plural and "tworal" |
| 21:55.29 | kspath | glut: I already know most of the letter sounds and some tongue-twisters but the grammer and tenses are time consuming to memorize. |
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| 21:55.52 | j-run | one disk, two diskas, three disks, four disks... etc ;) |
| 21:56.03 | poison | Hi all, is there an l2tpd package for sarge? |
| 21:56.13 | mackay | hi I am having an issue with exim. I was wondering if anyone knows how to change the default postmaster address |
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| 21:57.23 | glut | kspath: good luck then :) you'll need lots |
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| 21:58.22 | glut | j-run: sort of AI detecting language errors ? It's hard job |
| 21:58.23 | evaded | kspath: Have you try Dutch, really crazy :-) |
| 21:58.36 | mrobache | stew: that's done and i've post, thanks again for your help |
| 21:58.48 | kspath | I know elements from about 10 languages but not enough to be really useful |
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| 21:59.23 | evaded | kspath: You know the most importantest one, so that's good. lol ;-) |
| 21:59.38 | kspath | evaded: I do not really know English yet. |
| 21:59.50 | glut | evaded: I once heard finnish, I haven't heard anything THAT strange |
| 21:59.52 | kspath | evaded: most important is relative. |
| 21:59.55 | evaded | kspath: I'm not sure man ;-) |
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| 22:00.44 | kspath | glut: sometimes someone speaking french sounds more like Flemish or Spanish to me. |
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| 22:00.54 | maher | where can i buy a machine with debian pre-installed in London, uk? |
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| 22:01.04 | lde | hi |
| 22:01.08 | stew | mrobache: no problem, thank you for adopting the package |
| 22:01.14 | evaded | kspath: Flemish == Dutch |
| 22:01.27 | poison | evaded: I wouldn't say that |
| 22:01.41 | poison | evaded: there are a lot of small nuances between flemish and dutch |
| 22:01.46 | Gaal_ | can someone help me to install the osgcal package ? |
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| 22:02.10 | roger | can someone help me trouble shoot my grub configuration? I just installed a new hard drive (disconnecting the old) and installed windows XP on a fat32 partition occupying the whole drive. I then hooked the first (debian) drive back up and put a normal chain loadable entry into my menu.lst , but unfortunately it just hangs. My debian drive is hd0, and my windoze drive is (hd1,0). Will paste my config entry if requested. |
| 22:02.10 | Gaal_ | (noob inside ^^) |
| 22:02.32 | evaded | poison: i not agree with it |
| 22:02.34 | mrobache | stew: it's a pleasure, i really enjoy Ada :D |
| 22:02.35 | chealer | Gaal_: possibly, if you explain how we can help you |
| 22:02.48 | evaded | poison: I'm an Dutch person leaving in Belgium |
| 22:03.01 | evaded | not leaving |
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| 22:03.04 | evaded | euhm |
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| 22:03.06 | poison | evaded: and I'm a belgian who knows a lot of dutch people :) |
| 22:03.13 | kspath | evaded: Did you try the frites? |
| 22:03.21 | evaded | poison: I guess you're french?? right? |
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| 22:03.34 | poison | evaded: flemish!! :p |
| 22:03.50 | evaded | kspath: Not speak about 'moules' or you insult me. I have an strang name |
| 22:04.00 | S4nD3r | Hi there I have a problem... Im my windows xp box, is impossible to see all neighborhoods in my domain.. I have a samba server, is easy to solve this one?? |
| 22:04.11 | kspath | evaded: Strange? |
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| 22:04.59 | obscuresoul | does anyone here can helps me with printing? |
| 22:05.03 | evaded | kspath: Yea, i would not say it :-( to stupid look to http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/test/test_website/guicms/ |
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| 22:05.13 | evaded | kspath: in the source view |
| 22:05.20 | lde | i have a strange problem with x fonts. when i set -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-*-2 in xfontsel everything works, but after changing * to iso8859 the font resolution changes to very low, though iso8859 is the only option there. wtf? |
| 22:05.44 | roger | obscuresoul: will give it a shot, what's your problem? |
| 22:05.46 | NaRak_ | Apr 17 23:51:52 localhost kernel: sdc: Current: sense key: No Sense <-- any idea what causes this? suddenly getting a lot of those in syslog |
| 22:05.48 | evaded | poison: I understand a bit better now why Belgium goes bad now |
| 22:05.49 | byteshack | I have a file that has several "lines", is there a way that I can get a "group by count" type of command I can execute from the cli? |
| 22:06.10 | byteshack | the file has been sorted, so it should not be a problem |
| 22:06.25 | poison | evaded: ah? |
| 22:06.25 | roger | titleWindows XP |
| 22:06.25 | roger | rootnoverify(hd1,0) |
| 22:06.25 | roger | chainloader+1 |
| 22:06.26 | roger | makeactive |
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| 22:06.43 | Gaal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.43 | evaded | poison: Dutch & Flemish |
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| 22:07.15 | evaded | !tell roger about paste |
| 22:07.16 | roger | does that look suspicious to anyone as a menu.lst entry? |
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| 22:07.28 | maher | where can i buy a machine with debian pre-installed in London, uk? |
| 22:07.29 | roger | evaded: 4 lines ... thought it was harmless enough |
| 22:07.34 | poison | evaded: there are some words that we don't use and that are used in Netherland and vica versa but as I said that are only small nuances |
| 22:07.43 | AlfredR_ | why aren't my scripts in cron.daily running? they run when I invoke them by hand |
| 22:07.48 | evaded | roger: Enougth to kick you :-/ |
| 22:07.50 | AlfredR_ | and cron is running |
| 22:07.56 | roger | evaded: apparently ... |
| 22:08.06 | gholen | what is brltty? |
| 22:08.41 | kspath | evaded: There are numerous words used in England and New Zealand and Australia and India and several other countries that use English that are not used in US or Canada. |
| 22:08.51 | evaded | poison: Yes, i know what you would like to say. But i find it totaly crazy, can you imagine every american use his own nuance. Depending from the country? |
| 22:09.05 | Gaal_ | in order to compile Underware, i need Osgcal lib (this one http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/libosgcal-dev) but i don't know how to install it on my box due to dependancy :( |
| 22:09.07 | kspath | evaded: They already do. |
| 22:09.09 | evaded | kspath: I was just ^^ |
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| 22:09.16 | evaded | crazy gus |
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| 22:09.19 | kspath | evaded: Bag Sack Poke |
| 22:09.21 | evaded | crazy guys |
| 22:09.24 | chealer | Gaal_: which release do you use? |
| 22:09.36 | kspath | evaded: soda coke pop soda-pop .... |
| 22:09.44 | Gaal_ | i"m using Debian sarge |
| 22:09.46 | evaded | kspath: Esperanto? |
| 22:09.50 | kspath | evaded: There is a LONG list of regionalisms. |
| 22:09.52 | obscuresoul | roger, i'm trying to add a printer...i'm using this command "lpadmin -p Printer -v smb://guest@xxx/myshare -P /root/inkjet.ppd" and it doesn't work...why? |
| 22:10.07 | AlfredR_ | is the default install of cron broken in sarge? |
| 22:10.13 | evaded | kspath: Hhmm i have understand lol |
| 22:10.23 | kspath | evaded: NO, I do not know or intend to know Esperanto. I would rather study Latin or Greek or Chinese or ... |
| 22:10.36 | poison | evaded: I know it's stupid, butcrazy enough, we had to make different translations of our websites in the netherlands and in flanders |
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| 22:10.51 | evaded | poison: Really?? |
| 22:11.09 | evaded | poison: You have work :-) |
| 22:11.19 | chealer | Gaal_: this package is only in unstable. it won't be easy to install it in Sarge. backporting it is probably the best way |
| 22:11.27 | roger | obscuresoul: are you using cups? |
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| 22:11.47 | Mortis_kruuul | http://www.muzyka.oz.pl updated :P |
| 22:11.50 | poison | evaded: but that are yought-websites and when we launched in .nl we had lots of remarks that the language usage was rather weird |
| 22:12.00 | obscuresoul | roger, yes |
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| 22:12.37 | evaded | poison: Because it's weird! ;-) |
| 22:12.40 | obscuresoul | roger, i'm trying to print in my windows printer... |
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| 22:12.48 | Gaal_ | what backporting is ? |
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| 22:12.58 | kspath | evaded: It is not just language but sometimes. laws and regulations and culture and ... |
| 22:13.00 | chealer | !tell Gaal_ about msg |
| 22:13.09 | chealer | !tell Gaal_ about simple sid backport |
| 22:13.40 | roger | obscuresoul: have you tried using the localhost:631 cups web interface? also ... are you sure that you have the appropriate cups packages installed for the client-side ? |
| 22:13.49 | r_marvin | do i need to modpobe something under a debian kernel to get kde's battery monitor to work? |
| 22:13.52 | chealer | !tell Gaal_ about backport |
| 22:14.03 | Gaal_ | chealer : thanks ! |
| 22:14.06 | r_marvin | it says i got a partial acpi installation |
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| 22:14.26 | roger | obscuresoul: cups won't give you a windows/samba option in the web interface unless you have the capabilities |
| 22:14.35 | evaded | kspath: It's dificult to learn an language! Then people make it a bit dificulter. Why?? Because we are crazy and want always more? |
| 22:14.51 | kspath | evaded: A bit more difficult. |
| 22:15.08 | evaded | kspath: Yes, it's an milkchake of eng-fra |
| 22:15.12 | kspath | evaded: Always want more? |
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| 22:15.25 | chealer | r_marvin: klaptop_check? |
| 22:15.36 | evaded | kspath: More = a bit more difficult |
| 22:15.38 | jade | for ip addresses of the form, x.x.x.x/yy, what does the yy stand for? |
| 22:15.46 | j-run | has anyone installed the nut package, and gotten it to work successfully in sarge |
| 22:15.52 | obscuresoul | roger, i've installed "cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client foomatic-bin samba smbclient gs-esp a2ps" and i've also tried to use localhost:631, but it doesn't exist the my printer's driver there |
| 22:15.54 | j-run | i had to fiddle a lot to get it to work |
| 22:16.12 | ggeller | jade: Something about a bitmask. Maybe you should google it? |
| 22:16.13 | kspath | evaded: It is a lot more than that. "Engles" is from Olde German with Old French mixed in approx 1066. |
| 22:16.14 | j-run | jade: netmask, in number of bits, 1-32 |
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| 22:16.28 | j-run | jade: debian network howto |
| 22:16.41 | evaded | kspath: You know about it man :-p |
| 22:16.51 | kspath | evaded: I am being vague and fudging it a bit to keep it simpler. |
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| 22:17.20 | Kyo | somebody can tellme, I configure xfree86, but when I start the server, It say me "no screen found" |
| 22:17.22 | kspath | evaded: Are you a Frank? Should I trust you? |
| 22:17.39 | evaded | kspath: You can trust me but i'm not frank |
| 22:17.39 | chealer | !tell Kyo about no screens found |
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| 22:17.57 | roger | obscuresoul: if you want to manually add a ppd to cups, stick it in /usr/share/ppd and restart cups |
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| 22:18.13 | kspath | evaded: History and untold Histories make languages and their origins more clear and more interesting. |
| 22:18.17 | evaded | kspath: I was thinking 'Frank' as an name |
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| 22:18.41 | kspath | evaded: Frank as a people/region/culture/time |
| 22:18.50 | jz | what is this channel for? |
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| 22:19.03 | chealer | jz: Debian support |
| 22:19.08 | jz | k |
| 22:19.25 | evaded | kspath: I not understand the meaning of 'frank', i'm looking in the translator |
| 22:19.25 | kspath | jz: annoying people often enough. |
| 22:19.25 | vhuren | is there a way I can delete everything in a dir except a specific file? |
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| 22:19.26 | jz | df |
| 22:19.41 | evaded | kspath: Yes, i'm frank(open) to talk about it |
| 22:20.00 | kspath | evaded: no, but it matters not. |
| 22:20.04 | jz | anyone know where the opengl irc is? |
| 22:20.12 | kspath | #opengl ? |
| 22:20.21 | jz | join #opengl |
| 22:20.33 | obscuresoul | roger, "ls: /usr/share/ppd: No such file or directory" shall i create it? |
| 22:20.44 | Cybodog | howdy, I am trying to follow a howto on NFS, made and entry in /etc/exports, try to run exportsfs -a but it is not found, it is listed in man NFS, is it still used, or what packages has it? |
| 22:20.56 | kspath | jz: Did you try opengl sites and look under contacts where most often mail lists, newgroups, and irc channel info is? |
| 22:21.07 | Cybodog | correction, exportfs -a |
| 22:21.35 | jz | yea |
| 22:21.35 | jz | did |
| 22:21.35 | jz | nvm |
| 22:21.45 | evaded | kspath: I need to look a bit more about what you have say there ;-) |
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| 22:22.02 | ribnitz | heyas. |
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| 22:22.52 | roger | obscuresoul: what printer are you trying to use? I never remember which ppd is where, but I install all the gimp-print /foomatic / ppd / filters packages that I can find. I think that /usr/share/cups/model will also work |
| 22:23.03 | kspath | jz: http://www.opengl.org/community/newsgroups/ but they FAIL to say what irc net. |
| 22:23.07 | roger | obscuresoul: there are several paths that cups looks at by default |
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| 22:23.57 | jz | opengl channel is unresponsive |
| 22:24.08 | r_marvin | decisions, decisions: should i fully upgrade to sid to get the gnome-theme-icons bug fixed (needs to upgrade gtk2.0-0 and libc6 among other things) or leave it on hold and keep my current mix of etch/sid ? |
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| 22:24.10 | r_marvin | :) |
| 22:24.11 | myren | does maildir support recursive directories? |
| 22:24.31 | myren | or does the imap/folders concept not actually reach down into the fs? |
| 22:24.39 | myren | i want to create a work folder in my maildir |
| 22:24.46 | r_marvin | the imap folders is on the fs |
| 22:24.53 | r_marvin | but on top of maildir |
| 22:24.57 | kspath | jz: not all channels have people hanging out waiting. If a channel is quiet ask the question and wait for perhaps 24 hours. |
| 22:25.04 | r_marvin | create one folder through imap to see |
| 22:25.06 | ribnitz | myren: maildir: folder = direcotry on the fs. |
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| 22:25.27 | Kyo | In what dir can I mount a flash driver? |
| 22:25.28 | kspath | jz: You will likely have more luck joining opengl mailing lists. |
| 22:25.34 | ribnitz | myren: hence the need to get a performant fs if you have large maildirs. |
| 22:25.39 | Cybodog | is there a bot here I can ask questions of? |
| 22:25.43 | ribnitz | Kyo: In any. |
| 22:25.52 | obscuresoul | roger, ok tks |
| 22:25.53 | obscuresoul | :) |
| 22:25.54 | myren | ribnitz: but there's a tmp/cur/new in my maildir, do i create the subdir in every one? |
| 22:25.58 | kspath | Cybodog: !tell Cybodog about ask |
| 22:26.06 | kspath | !tell Cybodog about ask |
| 22:26.06 | r_marvin | kyo: usually /mnt/usb or /media/flash or a combination of it :) |
| 22:26.14 | Cybodog | ty kspath |
| 22:26.32 | ribnitz | myren: If you use IMAP you use your imap agent to do this. DO NOT INTERACT DIRECTLY. |
| 22:26.36 | kspath | Cybodog: sometimes the keywords are two letters only. |
| 22:26.40 | chealer | r_marvin: why would you upgrade to sid just because you're upgrading gtk2.0-0 and libc6 among other things? |
| 22:26.47 | Kyo | ? How I can copy files to the flash driver |
| 22:27.01 | myren | ribnitz: mutt. ugg, how unfriendly. :/ |
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| 22:27.15 | Cybodog | !tell Cybodog about NFS |
| 22:27.24 | roger | obscuresoul: hope that helped :) |
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| 22:27.32 | r_marvin | chealer: i already have a part sid filesystem, but i don't feel the need to be in x11r7 hell yet :) |
| 22:27.39 | ribnitz | myren: then get a better MUA. i wouldnt call maildir structure transparent. |
| 22:27.40 | miki | hey, how to install Ncurses? |
| 22:27.41 | chealer | !tell Cybodog about selftell |
| 22:27.45 | Kyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:27.46 | jz | rpm ncurses? |
| 22:27.50 | evaded | Cybodog: You can msg the bot directly '/msg dpkg NFS' |
| 22:27.52 | jz | rpm -- incurses? |
| 22:27.57 | kspath | jz: apt-get install |
| 22:27.59 | jz | rpm --i ncurses? |
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| 22:28.04 | chealer | miki: you find the package which corresponds to the part you want and install it |
| 22:28.07 | ribnitz | jz: except that is called apt-get |
| 22:28.12 | jz | o whatever |
| 22:28.15 | ribnitz | jz: esp the layer you want. |
| 22:28.17 | kspath | jz: rpm is NOT something you want to use with debian if possible. |
| 22:28.20 | Cybodog | thanks guys |
| 22:28.20 | jz | im used to rpm |
| 22:28.32 | kspath | jz: You are in #debian |
| 22:28.32 | miki | apt-get installl Ncurses says no ncurses |
| 22:28.35 | ribnitz | jz: then use rpm basde distro. |
| 22:28.39 | miki | anyone know where i can find them? |
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| 22:28.52 | r_marvin | jz: apt-get install libncurses5 |
| 22:28.57 | kspath | jz: join #rhel or #redhat or #fedora or #centos or ... if you want to use rpm |
| 22:28.58 | maxxle | jz: You know that you are in a debian chanel? hehe |
| 22:28.59 | r_marvin | or apt-cache search ncurses |
| 22:29.03 | ribnitz | miki: apt-cache search ncurses. I think itzs ncurses-bin you want. |
| 22:29.07 | chealer | r_marvin: so why do you ask if you should "upgrade" to sid? unless you're looking for a broken system, you shouldn't |
| 22:29.19 | jz | yea |
| 22:29.23 | jz | its ok, i like debian |
| 22:29.29 | Shadowcat | if you need to ask why you need to upgrade to unstable |
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| 22:29.33 | Shadowcat | you shouldn't |
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| 22:29.36 | kspath | jz: perhaps apt-cache search curses but that will give you a lot of things that use curses. |
| 22:29.44 | ribnitz | r_marvin: Unless it has been fixed, X was broken in sid (as of pre-easter) |
| 22:29.47 | jz | ... ok |
| 22:29.49 | maxxle | jz: Yeah! Thats the right answer. |
| 22:29.57 | r_marvin | chealer: no, i don't ask, i was just thinking loud, it's a funny situation and it's 1:30 AM :) |
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| 22:30.40 | ribnitz | su |
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| 22:30.42 | ribnitz | ebcedic1 |
| 22:30.46 | ribnitz | guh. |
| 22:30.48 | r_marvin | ribnitz: i know, that's why i'm not so eager to fix my evolution bugs by bumping another half of my system in sid |
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| 22:30.51 | r_marvin | nevermind |
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| 22:31.08 | miki | aww... it shows that i got Ncurses already but script needs em still |
| 22:31.08 | Pegger | how do i fix this dpkg: syntax error: invalid uid in statusoverride file |
| 22:31.11 | kspath | ribnitz: asciismite ribnitz |
| 22:31.17 | jz | what irc client do u use... how do u type so fast or is it text expansion? |
| 22:31.32 | kspath | jz: Who are you asking? |
| 22:31.34 | stew | Pegger: /msg dpkg bts |
| 22:31.39 | chealer | !tell jz about u |
| 22:31.41 | kspath | jz: People know how to type. |
| 22:32.06 | evaded | jz: Here are some king's man ;-) |
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| 22:33.21 | jz | anyone know opengl irc channels? |
| 22:33.32 | stew | miki: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:33.48 | ribnitz | I wonder: is a 256MB usb stick enough for a basic debian with X, an encrypted root fs, oo.org, firefox and perhaps 40MB free for docs? |
| 22:33.48 | jz | "The #OpenGL IRC channel is devoted to OpenGL discussion", but no server |
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| 22:33.57 | Kyo | tell me if I can use a flash driver, and how to ? please |
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| 22:34.04 | jz | no... i dont think so |
| 22:34.19 | jz | X's are like 200 mbs |
| 22:34.22 | bahamat | is there a way I can run the disk partitioner that runs when the system installs? |
| 22:34.35 | ribnitz | jz: not kde or gnome. xfce4. |
| 22:34.39 | jz | o |
| 22:34.46 | ribnitz | bahamat: cfdisk |
| 22:34.52 | bahamat | ribnitz: thanks |
| 22:34.56 | tarzeau | kspath: you're in poland? |
| 22:35.10 | jz | im in us... so colddd here |
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| 22:35.35 | stew | ribnitz: no way that would be big enough |
| 22:35.36 | jz | "The #OpenGL IRC channel is devoted to OpenGL discussion", but no actual servers... anyone know one? |
| 22:35.37 | ribnitz | bahamat: might need a drive, eg. /dev/hda, /dev/sda, look in dmesg for values appropriate to your system. |
| 22:35.43 | tarzeau | helix: are you there? |
| 22:35.54 | ribnitz | stew: would a 512M be? |
| 22:35.56 | tarzeau | helix: do you remember that polish guy who used to be here and be rude to you? |
| 22:35.58 | kspath | tarzeau: No. I only got to visit Poland once for 2 weeks a few years back. |
| 22:36.02 | tarzeau | helix: i need to find hime, and what he said |
| 22:36.12 | tarzeau | kspath: ok i need your help, it's urgent |
| 22:36.17 | kspath | tarzeau: ? |
| 22:36.26 | tarzeau | kspath: are polish people blond , pale skin and blue eyes? |
| 22:36.29 | stew | ribnitz: i'd think so |
| 22:36.31 | jz | please, anyone know where i find irc channels for OPENGL? |
| 22:36.37 | Kyo | when can I find the file of grub to edit the configuration |
| 22:36.37 | miki | stew: im trying to enable agpgrat or fix it |
| 22:36.39 | tarzeau | jz: #demoscene |
| 22:36.39 | kspath | tarzeau: not always why |
| 22:36.45 | jz | #demoscene |
| 22:36.50 | tarzeau | kspath: but do they exist, what's the percentage? |
| 22:36.50 | miki | stew: make menuconfig gives me errors related to ncurses |
| 22:36.52 | ribnitz | stew: so a proof-of-concept would be doable with a 256M one? |
| 22:36.54 | maxxle | tarzeau: What a question?!? |
| 22:36.57 | kspath | tarzeau: in fact there is a large mix for numerous reasons through history. |
| 22:37.02 | tarzeau | maxxle: this is debian related. |
| 22:37.02 | bahamat | ribnitz: I meant the partitionar used in the installation of sarge, not woody ;-) |
| 22:37.11 | tarzeau | kspath: hm |
| 22:37.17 | anabain | what does it mean that GRUB *understands* file systems and LILO doesn't? |
| 22:37.27 | kspath | tarzeau: well that is hard to say maybe 25 percent |
| 22:37.30 | bahamat | ribnitz: that's ok though, I was able to do what I needed |
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| 22:37.32 | stew | ribnitz: openoffice.org-core is 80mb by itself without the rest of openoffice, and a base install of debian is iirc close to 200 mb |
| 22:37.32 | tarzeau | anabain: you can use tab in the shell or menu |
| 22:37.35 | tarzeau | anabain: not so with lilo |
| 22:37.44 | tarzeau | kspath: that's much... ow crap |
| 22:37.46 | Pegger | how do i fix this dpkg: syntax error: invalid uid in statusoverride file it happened after I took a entries out of passwd and shadow |
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| 22:37.52 | kspath | tarzeau: there are people with blue eyes but brown or dirty-blonde hair |
| 22:37.55 | ribnitz | anabain: that to lilo, you say its block 321. And to grub you say: its the boot block of the second partition. |
| 22:38.02 | kspath | tarzeau: there are blondes with brown eyes |
| 22:38.03 | Kyo | how can i configure grub? |
| 22:38.04 | stew | miki: you need libncurses5-dev for menuconfig, but what are you going to change in the kerel config to fix agpgart? what happens when you modprobe agpgart? |
| 22:38.05 | tarzeau | kspath: and ash blond? |
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| 22:38.24 | g0th | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.25 | kspath | tarzeau: ash blonde is likely what I was saying as dirty-blonde |
| 22:38.48 | kspath | tarzeau: some are blonde until 5-8 years old then turn brownish |
| 22:38.51 | ribnitz | g0th: What printer model? |
| 22:38.56 | kspath | tarzeau: Why? |
| 22:38.58 | miki | let me pastebin, sec |
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| 22:39.16 | g0th | hp laserjet 2100TN |
| 22:39.22 | tarzeau | maxxle: ok i cheated, it's not |
| 22:39.22 | nse | is there a way to return to the previous working directory using bash? |
| 22:39.28 | g0th | I only see this: |
| 22:39.29 | dho | Perhaps a bit of a silly question; what package do I need for header files for the standard C library? |
| 22:39.36 | ribnitz | nse: cd- |
| 22:39.37 | tarzeau | kspath: ok thanks, you don't want to know the rest and details |
| 22:39.39 | miki | stew: http://pastebin.com/666058 |
| 22:39.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: good night you bitch |
| 22:39.50 | tarzeau | ribnitz: don't drink too much! |
| 22:39.56 | kspath | tarzeau: even the blue eyes are relative |
| 22:39.56 | g0th | foomatics/hpijs - HPLIP 0.9.9 (en) |
| 22:40.01 | ribnitz | tarzeau: I dont. |
| 22:40.03 | anabain | ribnitz: the point is that I'm getting a kernel panic that says: VFS: unable to mount fs root on unlnown-block(8,5). I'm using grub. |
| 22:40.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: ? |
| 22:40.19 | g0th | HP LaserJet 2100 Fomatics/hpijs - HPLIP 0.9.9 (en) |
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| 22:40.27 | jz | anyone know a cfm/blogger stuff i can upload to sf.net project website? |
| 22:40.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: a question mark is all you have to say? |
| 22:40.30 | stew | miki: can you paste the output of lspci? |
| 22:40.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: what a bitch you are |
| 22:40.44 | g0th | http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_2100 |
| 22:40.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: ? |
| 22:40.54 | g0th | this page speaks about pxlmono |
| 22:40.58 | ribnitz | anabain: thats usually a missing module for the root fs (like the root is reiserfs, and you got no reiserfs module in your initrd) |
| 22:41.14 | jz | anyone know a cms/blogger/wordpress stuff i can upload to sf.net project website? |
| 22:41.16 | ribnitz | g0th: HPLJ2100 is pretty easy. |
| 22:41.20 | g0th | I have a working printing setup, but atm all borders are cut |
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| 22:41.37 | g0th | I'm trying to fix this by starting over again |
| 22:41.42 | Kyo | how can i configure grub? |
| 22:41.42 | miki | stew: http://pastebin.com/666063 want dmesg too? |
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| 22:41.52 | Kyo | tell me if I can use a flash driver, and how to ? please |
| 22:42.01 | g0th | each time I print a certain file I see ugly white borders |
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| 22:42.09 | g0th | someone told me this was a print driver problem |
| 22:42.27 | stew | miki: run "update-pciids" then paste the output of lspci again |
| 22:42.34 | Pegger | how do you completly cemove all traces of a package |
| 22:42.41 | g0th | I'm not sure it is, because other files print fine (ie. it prints up to very close the border, closer then the cut on the other file) |
| 22:42.49 | g0th | but it still might be a driver problem |
| 22:42.55 | g0th | besides I have another issue: |
| 22:42.55 | ribnitz | g0th: so on the cups test page you see no margin? |
| 22:43.01 | stew | miki: that lspci output doesn't show any agp bridge so its not a suprise that loading agpgart would give you an error |
| 22:43.02 | evaded | Pegger: apt-get remove --purge <pacakge> |
| 22:43.03 | g0th | yes |
| 22:43.22 | g0th | btw |
| 22:43.28 | streuner | ribnitz: what's the german word for 'margin' again? |
| 22:43.28 | g0th | I once had a different setup |
| 22:43.36 | tarzeau | streuner: dict.leo.org ? |
| 22:43.38 | g0th | with this setup I have now, it's all very strange and bad |
| 22:43.42 | g0th | I can't select 1200dpi |
| 22:43.47 | g0th | and I have strange options |
| 22:43.47 | miki | stew: http://pastebin.com/666069 |
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| 22:44.03 | Pegger | evaded, the entrys in passwd are still there |
| 22:44.12 | ribnitz | streuner: "Rand" (m). |
| 22:44.14 | g0th | FliesLikeABrick: Media Source has a Photo tray in it |
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| 22:44.22 | stew | miki: is this very new hardware? |
| 22:44.24 | g0th | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.24 | anabain | ribnitz: I have restored / from a tarball after having mkfs.ext3'ed on the old reiserfs /. But before the mkfs, I compiled built-in ext3 support in the kernel. And I've tried both with a custom kernel and with a debian stock kernel, which produces a "/dev/console not found, attempting to kill init!" panic. |
| 22:44.25 | streuner | ribnitz: ah |
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| 22:44.32 | miki | stew: im trying to install fglx ati driver, but its problematic on debian |
| 22:44.36 | g0th | my hp laserjet doesn't have a photo tray ;) |
| 22:44.41 | stew | miki: did you get an errors running update-pciids? |
| 22:44.48 | miki | stew: its pretty new, like 3 months or so |
| 22:44.55 | miki | stew: no errors |
| 22:44.58 | stew | miki: you should be using a 2.6 kernel |
| 22:44.58 | ribnitz | g0th: neither does mine. |
| 22:45.05 | evaded | Pegger: That not modify an entry in the passwd file |
| 22:45.05 | stew | miki: what ati card do you have? |
| 22:45.22 | miki | stew: buti can use two versions of agpgrat controllore, hardware ati or from linux kernel |
| 22:45.25 | Pegger | evaded, english please |
| 22:45.28 | miki | stew: radeon 9550 |
| 22:45.29 | g0th | ribnitz: so how do I get my "nice" settings back? |
| 22:45.37 | stew | miki: is it agp or is it pcie? |
| 22:45.43 | miki | stew: agp |
| 22:45.48 | stew | miki: according to you lcpci output you don't have agp |
| 22:45.48 | g0th | and do you have any idea why the border of the other file is cut? |
| 22:45.50 | evaded | Pegger: I not understand you man |
| 22:45.53 | ribnitz | g0th: do you have foomatic-filters installed? |
| 22:45.55 | stew | *lspci |
| 22:46.08 | Pegger | evaded, i am sure |
| 22:46.17 | g0th | ribnitz: yes |
| 22:46.31 | evaded | Pegger: apt-get remove --purge <pacakge> not change an line in the 'passwd' file |
| 22:46.33 | miki | stew: maybe its not enabled? afaik there are two controllers, hardware ati agpgart and kernel agpgart... maybe its set for hardware ati one |
| 22:46.36 | g0th | btw, it's a network printer |
| 22:46.39 | ribnitz | g0th: With a 2100M (same thing, but does postscript too) I never got it to print correct margins (in text mode only). |
| 22:46.43 | g0th | atm I have it setup to use hp jet direct |
| 22:46.47 | g0th | socket at port 9100 |
| 22:47.04 | stew | miki: in any case, with hardware that new, you should be running a 2.6 kernel, what cpu do you have? |
| 22:47.06 | g0th | ribnitz: my problem is with a pdf file |
| 22:47.08 | evaded | Pegger: That not change an line in that file after you have run that command |
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| 22:47.16 | _intx | anyone here have selinux running on sarge? |
| 22:47.19 | g0th | well actually originally with a ps file |
| 22:47.20 | ribnitz | g0th: shouldnt be too much of a problem. My printer is a laserjet 5m with a network card. |
| 22:47.23 | stew | miki: /msg dpkg sarge upgrade kernel |
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| 22:47.29 | miki | stew: pentium 4 2.6ghz@3ghz |
| 22:47.30 | g0th | yes it _should_ be easy |
| 22:47.39 | g0th | but in linux it seems to cause problems all the time |
| 22:47.40 | g0th | example: |
| 22:47.50 | g0th | I try to print a pdf file with 4 pages on a sheet |
| 22:47.52 | g0th | first: |
| 22:47.59 | miki | stew: i can run kernel 2.6.8 but its very rpoblematic, sience i cant install modem on it |
| 22:48.00 | stew | miki: then your $ARCH is 686: /msg dpkg sarge upgrade kernel |
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| 22:48.04 | g0th | pdf2ps is totally broken on my pc it seems |
| 22:48.06 | ribnitz | g0th: forget such things. |
| 22:48.10 | g0th | pdftops works though |
| 22:48.23 | stew | miki: how about 2.6.15 from backports.org then? |
| 22:48.32 | g0th | so I use pdftops, then psnup, that produces a file that looks nice in gv |
| 22:48.34 | ribnitz | g0th: cupsys-driver-gutenprint ? |
| 22:48.38 | g0th | but _horrible_ and wrong if I print it |
| 22:48.44 | miki | stew: im running stable... u think i should get one from backports? |
| 22:48.47 | g0th | but if I do ps2pdf it prints fine |
| 22:48.51 | g0th | but the borders are cut |
| 22:48.53 | g0th | *g* |
| 22:48.54 | g0th | yes |
| 22:49.01 | g0th | I have cupsys-driver-gutenprint |
| 22:49.17 | stew | miki: i think you need to run a newer kenrel becuase your hardware is too new. if 2.6.8 is too old then yes, i think you should try 2.6.15 from backports.org |
| 22:49.28 | g0th | so whatever I do I end up with bad results |
| 22:49.32 | Shadowcat | either that, or run testing |
| 22:49.37 | ribnitz | g0th: cat foo.ps |psselect -p 2-4 |psnup -n 2 |lpr |
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| 22:49.50 | miki | stew: its new PC, but hardware aint new... vid card was produced in 2003 or even earlier |
| 22:49.57 | ndee | on my server, the error logs get about 1GB in size each day and the site gets about 1500-2000 unique visitors. Isn't it performance-hindering if I enable the error-log? |
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| 22:50.13 | Shadowcat | you're not supposed to get an error log |
| 22:50.19 | ribnitz | ndee: Eror log on what? |
| 22:50.23 | miki | stew: btw, do u have ATi vid card? |
| 22:50.29 | ndee | ribnitz: sorry, error-log of apache |
| 22:50.35 | Shadowcat | I suggest you figure out what's causing the errors, and resolve them |
| 22:50.43 | ribnitz | ndee: How many pages of yours have errors? |
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| 22:50.50 | abrotman | !u |
| 22:50.50 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:51.14 | g0th | ribnitz: well this is bad |
| 22:51.16 | ndee | Shad0wcat: errors like not finding a favicon.ico and I cannot really "control" that I think |
| 22:51.30 | g0th | ribnitz: I get one sheet per page (actually only one page) |
| 22:51.37 | g0th | ribnitz: and the borders are cut |
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| 22:51.54 | stew | miki: i have a couple |
| 22:51.58 | ndee | and a php script also generates an error from time to time: PHP Warning: mysql_fetch_assoc(): su etc. |
| 22:52.10 | ndee | I'm just wondering if I should turn off php warnings in the error log |
| 22:52.16 | stew | miki: the hardware you are having problems with is the agp bridge which is part of the motherboard, not the video card |
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| 22:52.23 | g0th | did you maybe mean psnup -2? |
| 22:52.24 | miki | stew: so u know that they aint best debian friends :) |
| 22:52.35 | g0th | ribnitz: ? |
| 22:52.36 | stew | miki: i buy ati becuase the opensource drivers are so good |
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| 22:52.49 | ribnitz | g0th: foomatic-drivers-gimpprint? - and set the paper size correctly in the printer (probably A4) |
| 22:52.51 | EmeraldCat | Hello. How do I send a foreground process to the background _immediately_? |
| 22:52.56 | miki | stew: controller name is agpgart, i will try to set kernel controller instead of hardware one made by ati.. give me some time ;) |
| 22:53.05 | g0th | I don't have gimp installed |
| 22:53.20 | g0th | "and set the paper size correctly in the printer (probably A4)" <- where? |
| 22:53.28 | ribnitz | g0th: check that your paper size is actually set to a4. |
| 22:53.31 | g0th | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.35 | Kyo | tell me if I can use a flash driver, and how to ? please |
| 22:53.36 | g0th | where else do I need to check |
| 22:53.52 | ribnitz | g0th: localhost:631, user root, password for root. |
| 22:53.55 | g0th | aeh |
| 22:54.00 | g0th | I did that |
| 22:54.09 | g0th | I'm not a newbie at this |
| 22:54.16 | g0th | I'm just _very_ confused about all the print stuff |
| 22:54.26 | g0th | this thing is too complex for me to understand it |
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| 22:54.51 | g0th | everywhere I saw the page size was a4 |
| 22:54.56 | g0th | in configure printer |
| 22:54.57 | g0th | etc |
| 22:55.01 | g0th | it is a4 |
| 22:55.18 | miki | stew: brb, changed driver |
| 22:55.33 | ribnitz | g0th: then I have no idea. that usually did it for me. |
| 22:55.38 | g0th | ribnitz: arg |
| 22:55.44 | Rug | What would cause a file transfer from NFS mount to local to jump all over the place in speed? I am getting 1MB/s~50MB/s |
| 22:55.44 | g0th | this way I can't print on linux |
| 22:55.55 | g0th | can you at least tell me how I can properly set up my printer |
| 22:56.02 | g0th | hp laserjet 2100 TN |
| 22:56.03 | ribnitz | Rug: network traffic? |
| 22:56.13 | g0th | atm with this foomatic thing I have wrong settings |
| 22:56.21 | Rug | ribnitz: nope, nothing hapeniing, this is all on my internal lan |
| 22:56.21 | g0th | eg. I can select "photo trays" which aren't even there |
| 22:56.27 | g0th | and I can't print 1200 dpi |
| 22:56.38 | g0th | the linuxprinting howto says I should use pxlmono, so how do I do that? |
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| 22:57.31 | g0th | and any idea why: pdftops -> psnup produces a crappy output, but pdftops -> psnup -> ps2pdf produces a nice output (but still cropped borders) |
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| 22:57.51 | g0th | (the file looks perfect in gv) |
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| 22:57.55 | g0th | anyone? |
| 22:57.58 | nse | !scroll |
| 22:57.58 | dpkg | Ok we now that you know how to press enter. Now type at least one sentence before pressing next time. |
| 22:58.06 | g0th | where do I find more help about this subject? |
| 22:58.16 | g0th | I tried google I tried linuxprinting.org |
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| 22:58.23 | g0th | I searched forums |
| 22:58.28 | g0th | I didn't find anything |
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| 22:58.38 | g0th | besides it seems that the traffic there is really low |
| 22:58.46 | g0th | so not much hope of getting an answer in the forum |
| 22:59.04 | astronut | k, what's the new font path again? |
| 22:59.06 | astronut | ok* |
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| 22:59.25 | ribnitz | g0th: debian-user mailing list. |
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| 23:00.07 | ribnitz | g0th: and my ppd sits in /etc/cups/ppds/laserjet.ppd |
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| 23:00.27 | g0th | ribnitz: I found some ppds |
| 23:00.34 | _intx | anyone here running selinux? |
| 23:00.36 | g0th | eg. I can download the pxlmono ppd from linuxprinting.org |
| 23:00.37 | gnufan | rug disk activity, especially if "sync" is required. Does ftp do the same? |
| 23:00.37 | stew | astronut: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 23:00.43 | g0th | but how do I install my printer to use that ppd? |
| 23:00.50 | g0th | and why doesn't debian include the pxlmono??? |
| 23:00.57 | Rug | gnufan: I haven't checked |
| 23:01.15 | Rug | but thanks for the info. It is mounted with async |
| 23:01.17 | ribnitz | g0th: It does, its just in one of the many cups packages |
| 23:01.42 | g0th | ribnitz: well it's not in the list |
| 23:01.48 | astronut | stew: does it work well in lynx? |
| 23:01.51 | g0th | ribnitz: and I installed absolutely all cups packages |
| 23:01.52 | stew | astronut: yes |
| 23:01.57 | astronut | goood |
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| 23:02.06 | gnufan | Rug: is this Gigabit ethernet -- as that can also do weird stuff with Interrupts, most of the cards have features to minimise the interrupts generated. |
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| 23:02.20 | Rug | gnufan: nope plain-jane 100Mb |
| 23:02.21 | g0th | or maybe it is in the list but I don't recognize the name |
| 23:02.31 | g0th | anyway, the list doesn't allow me to select my own ppd file |
| 23:02.32 | g0th | :( |
| 23:02.37 | Rug | rsize=8192 & wsize=8192 |
| 23:02.40 | ribnitz | g0th: updating my file cache, sec. |
| 23:03.03 | gnufan | rug ah I though you meant Megabytes a second because of the capital B.... |
| 23:03.07 | _intx | !selinux |
| 23:03.08 | dpkg | well, selinux is NSA's port to Linux of the FLASK security Architectur, called Security Enhanced Linux. Also it can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. http://selinux.sourceforge.net/distros/debian.php3 |
| 23:03.08 | kspath | g0th: You know that A4 is a page/paper size? |
| 23:03.18 | g0th | yes |
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| 23:03.45 | tim_flatus | Does anyone have any clues about getting glx / dri problems with Xorg 6.9 (etch) sorted yet? |
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| 23:03.57 | g0th | I have a pxlmono ppd now |
| 23:04.08 | tim_flatus | that is, does anyone have blender working in etch? |
| 23:04.11 | g0th | but how do I add a printer in the cups web interface to use that ppd |
| 23:04.15 | EmeraldCat | It is possible to install X apps _without_ installing an X server and run the apps remotely (using a remote X Server)? |
| 23:04.36 | Rug | gnufan: sorry. Konqueror used 'B' so it had me confused for a minute |
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| 23:05.03 | Rug | blond moment. |
| 23:05.04 | jz2 | #flood |
| 23:05.08 | jz2 | #flood |
| 23:05.13 | Rug | Thanks for your hlep folks. I gotta run |
| 23:05.19 | ribnitz | g0th: no idea there. I always went the other way. |
| 23:05.26 | g0th | hmm |
| 23:05.31 | ribnitz | g0th: ask the ml. |
| 23:05.34 | g0th | I simply made an arbitrary printer |
| 23:05.42 | g0th | and replaced the .ppd in /etc/cups/ppd |
| 23:05.45 | g0th | is that enough? |
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| 23:05.55 | EmeraldCat | netburst? |
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| 23:06.53 | g0th | anyway, my border problem remains even with the pxlmono driver :( |
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| 23:07.34 | astronut | why does xorg 7 conflict w/ xfs? |
| 23:07.40 | NaRak_ | Apr 17 23:33:01 localhost kernel: sdc: Current: sense key: No Sense <-- anyone with a clue? Did not see this before I tried with 2.6.16 custom kernel, so might be something there, but if anyone could point me in a direction that would be lovely |
| 23:07.54 | ribnitz | g0th: Another problem you probably have not seen yet: The 2100 Series often have paper jams as soon as you try ot print more than like 5 pages. At least mine had. |
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| 23:08.05 | gigino | Do you think Ubuntu is better than Debian? |
| 23:08.07 | g0th | mine doesn't |
| 23:08.08 | ribnitz | astronut: xfs is the x font server |
| 23:08.12 | astronut | ribnitz: yes |
| 23:08.14 | g0th | hmm |
| 23:08.14 | astronut | i know this |
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| 23:08.34 | g0th | any idea why .ps file is printed badly, but ps2pdf is printed nicely? |
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| 23:08.44 | g0th | (except the border cut issue= |
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| 23:08.55 | stew | gigino: if you want to compare various distros please go to ##linux, its off-topic here |
| 23:08.56 | Dwonis | !tell gigino about start a distro war |
| 23:09.12 | ribnitz | g0th: in the case of a pdf flie the driver does the rastering. |
| 23:09.24 | g0th | so the rastering is the problem maybe? |
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| 23:09.45 | g0th | anyway, it just seems silly |
| 23:09.49 | g0th | to print a pdf file I do: |
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| 23:09.54 | miki | hmmm, i dont see agp in lspci :( |
| 23:09.56 | ribnitz | g0th: you porblem is that your a4 is defined a few millimeters too big. |
| 23:10.07 | stew | miki: don't worry about that |
| 23:10.08 | g0th | pdftops -> psnup -> ps2pdf and it still prints badly (border cut) |
| 23:10.18 | g0th | ribnitz: hmm? |
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| 23:10.28 | tim_flatus | Point of order: Is talking about DeMuDi considered off-topic here? |
| 23:10.30 | g0th | ribnitz: I try to explain again |
| 23:10.32 | stew | tim_flatus: yes |
| 23:10.35 | nse | i wish dpkg was a dictionary too, the default dict server is not working for a long time now |
| 23:10.48 | keyhack | I just installed the server version of Debian, how can I tell it to use my external SMTP server for mail? |
| 23:10.51 | miki | stew: maybe i need agpgart and via agp modules? |
| 23:10.54 | g0th | the border is cut, but I know for sure that my printer can print much further then the part that is cut |
| 23:11.02 | tim_flatus | stew, Ok. I had better take care than. |
| 23:11.02 | evaded | nse: Use 'dict' on you're local computer? |
| 23:11.09 | g0th | so it doesn't seem to be a printer limitation |
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| 23:11.19 | g0th | btw, about the "printer test page" |
| 23:11.27 | stew | miki: are you still running a 2.4 kernel? |
| 23:11.27 | g0th | should I see black borders around it? |
| 23:11.30 | mikedub | where do i go to update the servers that aptitude uses to fetch packages? |
| 23:11.33 | nse | evaded: do i have a dictionary installed in my local computer? |
| 23:11.34 | g0th | because with pxlmono I don't see any borders |
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| 23:11.44 | miki | stew: yes... i cant configure my modem under 2.6.8 |
| 23:11.49 | g0th | and the imageable area is much larger than with my original driver |
| 23:11.52 | ribnitz | g0th: sec |
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| 23:11.57 | miki | stew: seems that uhci controller aint working for me |
| 23:11.59 | LoneWlf791 | Anyone who can help me get an HP Deskjet 3520 working with CUPS? I already have the drivers and have it set up, it just refuses to work. |
| 23:12.01 | stew | miki: and wait, is the agpgart you are having trouble with actually from ati and not from the kernel sources? |
| 23:12.13 | g0th | the image looks fine, but has no black border |
| 23:12.16 | miki | stew: i tried both, and both give me no result |
| 23:12.34 | miki | stew: now im on kernel driver, before on ati |
| 23:12.38 | g0th | page-size: 8.26x11.7in |
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| 23:12.47 | g0th | lower-left: 0x0in |
| 23:12.49 | stew | miki: and you get no devices detected? |
| 23:12.57 | g0th | upper-right: 8.26x11.7in |
| 23:13.01 | miki | stew: in lspci? |
| 23:13.04 | g0th | so it seems to have no margin at all |
| 23:13.08 | stew | miki: when you "modprobe agpgart |
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| 23:13.15 | xpc | cs |
| 23:13.26 | Baloo | sid users upgrading today will probably need to do a dpkg --purge x-window-system && aptitude install xorg && ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R6/bin/X to get X working |
| 23:13.42 | miki | stew: yes |
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| 23:14.26 | miki | stew: someone told me to make agpgart and via agp modules and then try but afaik they should be in kernel by default |
| 23:14.51 | Kerr | my server box was sarge back when sarge was testing.. seems i had it looking at testing, not sarge repositories. I understand by now it will be very much etch; but is there an easy way to keep it happy without letting it get unstable, as far as weekly apt-get update/upgrade goes? |
| 23:14.59 | stew | miki: yes, they would be in any debian kerenl |
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| 23:15.29 | ribnitz | g0th: got a yahoo address where I can send the PDF to? |
| 23:15.49 | LoneWlf791 | Anyone here who can help me with CUPS and my printer? |
| 23:15.56 | g0th | what pdf? |
| 23:16.05 | Baloo | LoneWlf791: Don't ask to ask, just ask the question. :o) |
| 23:16.08 | jz2 | portable document interface |
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| 23:16.11 | miki | stew: this link gives some info about driver and agpgart: http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/Linux_ATI.html#SECTION00040000000000000000 |
| 23:16.14 | jz2 | or interchange |
| 23:16.25 | thingfish | LoneWlf791: is it local, or over a lan? |
| 23:16.32 | LoneWlf791 | Local over USB |
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| 23:16.36 | xpc | cs |
| 23:16.55 | thingfish | LoneWlf791: and cups has drivers for it? |
| 23:17.02 | LoneWlf791 | thingfish: I got the drivers from linuxprinting.org and configured the printer with said driver in the KDE print manager |
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| 23:17.11 | thingfish | oh well then... |
| 23:17.11 | LoneWlf791 | thingfish: But it still won't even print the test page |
| 23:17.18 | jz2 | why u guys using cups, just get ... |
| 23:17.28 | LoneWlf791 | thingfish: Just says that all jobs were aborted |
| 23:17.30 | evaded_ | My other computer have freeze a bit |
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| 23:17.39 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: try pointing a browser to http://localhost:631/ |
| 23:17.44 | LoneWlf791 | I did. |
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| 23:17.52 | LoneWlf791 | That's where I saw the supposed aborted jobs. |
| 23:17.57 | kspath | evaded_: have freeze? has frozen a bit? |
| 23:18.00 | tapas | how do i find what version of PAM my system has? |
| 23:18.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 800] by debhelper |
| 23:18.08 | tapas | or better: whether it supports rtlimits |
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| 23:18.19 | xpc | cs |
| 23:18.20 | kspath | evaded_: or is freezing a bit? |
| 23:18.22 | evaded_ | I can not do anything more. But the computer looks to be running. The chat windows continue to display the things |
| 23:18.23 | dli | how to enable both the built-in lcd and an external monitor? so I can switch back and forth |
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| 23:18.28 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: anything interesting in /var/log/cups/error_log? |
| 23:18.50 | tim_flatus | tapas, no version of pam in Debian supports rtlimits, you have to patch it yourself |
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| 23:18.58 | tapas | gnah |
| 23:19.02 | marc | hi, i had a file.c and i accidentally called gcc blah -o file.c with no input file, file.c disappeared and i didn't have a backup |
| 23:19.13 | marc | is there any way to retrieve it? |
| 23:19.16 | tim_flatus | tapas, It works fine. ;) |
| 23:19.18 | ribnitz | g0th: Thing left here (PDF file) |
| 23:19.26 | evaded_ | ssh to it work |
| 23:19.26 | bbrazil | marc: extremely unlikely |
| 23:19.30 | LoneWlf791 | saloxin: PID 18269 stopped with status 3! |
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| 23:19.35 | tapas | tim_flatus: great :) so why isn't it in unstable? ;) |
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| 23:19.41 | gnufan | Kerr: Note really, vi /etc/apt/sources.list %s/testing/etch/g -- stop the rot here. Either reinstall Sarge, or just live with it. You could do the upgrades only when DSA are issued, but I think it better to run Sarge on servers unless you need something more/newer |
| 23:19.51 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: blergh, says nothing |
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| 23:19.56 | keyhack | I just installed the server version of Debian, how can I tell it to use my external SMTP server for mail? |
| 23:19.59 | tim_flatus | tapas, ask libpam-modules maintainers |
| 23:20.04 | tapas | tim_flatus: ok |
| 23:20.07 | g0th | ribnitz: hmm? |
| 23:20.11 | miki | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.11 | miki | Logged in as root go to /etc/X11 and open the file XF86Config-4. In here you can edit a lot of things. From keyboard layouts and mouse settings, to more advanced stuff, like your cards Chip ID and other settings. |
| 23:20.12 | miki | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.12 | miki | Logged in as root go to /etc/X11 and open the file XF86Config-4. In here you can edit a lot of things. From keyboard layouts and mouse settings, to more advanced stuff, like your cards Chip ID and other settings. |
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| 23:20.30 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: lsusb show the printer? |
| 23:20.43 | LoneWlf791 | yes |
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| 23:20.55 | marc | there's nothing at all i can do or try? |
| 23:21.02 | kspath | keyhack: You are using Exim as your MTA? |
| 23:21.04 | Baloo | keyhack: You're probably going to have to be much more specific as to what you're doing. What MTA, which version of Debian ("server" isn't a version), etc. |
| 23:21.20 | keyhack | what MTA is installed by default then? |
| 23:21.22 | keyhack | I think its exim |
| 23:21.38 | keyhack | yeah looks like exim is installed |
| 23:21.41 | gnufan | keyhack when exim was installed it should have asked if that is what you wanted to do. |
| 23:21.51 | Baloo | exim (or smail if it's a really old version) |
| 23:21.59 | keyhack | gnufan: Someone else installed it |
| 23:22.00 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: try removeing it and adding it throug web interface |
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| 23:22.10 | LoneWlf791 | saloxin: gotcha |
| 23:22.21 | evaded_ | On that box that has freeze i can not kill procceses |
| 23:22.31 | Parallax_ | I have a deb broken, in dpkg -L shows up as iF how do I fix that ???? |
| 23:22.33 | gnufan | keyhack: try "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" if no exim4-config you might want to upgrade exim to version 4 |
| 23:22.42 | evaded_ | He will not kill, also with the -9 |
| 23:22.46 | tapas | there's a wishlist item from 7 months ago |
| 23:22.55 | tapas | so i suppose it will eventually be done.. |
| 23:23.06 | gnufan | keyhack: probably a good idea to have a backup first ;) |
| 23:23.09 | tim_flatus | tapas, yes we just have to be patient. |
| 23:23.10 | kspath | evaded_: frozen? wedged? locked up? Do you mean X is locked up or not updating? |
| 23:23.21 | keyhack | we're not using the mail for anything |
| 23:23.27 | g0th | ouff, I give up |
| 23:23.29 | keyhack | it is exim4, looking at the menu now |
| 23:23.30 | g0th | thanks for the help |
| 23:23.35 | tapas | tim_flatus: i'll keep using the realtime lsm on my custum built kernel then |
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| 23:23.45 | tim_flatus | tapas, : |
| 23:23.45 | LoneWlf791 | slaoxin: just added it and tried a test, still didn't work |
| 23:23.53 | tim_flatus | +) |
| 23:23.57 | evaded_ | kspath: Yes, sorry no translator here running. It's no more respond |
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| 23:24.07 | LoneWlf791 | saloxin: This one says cancelled rather than aborted though |
| 23:24.11 | LoneWlf791 | if that makes a difference |
| 23:24.31 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: module usblp loaded? /dev/usb/lp0 exists? |
| 23:24.32 | kspath | evaded_: you are running kill as the user that started it or as root? |
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| 23:24.46 | saloxin | don't think cancelled vs aborted makes a diffference |
| 23:24.50 | evaded_ | kspath: I try it with root now |
| 23:25.25 | LoneWlf791 | saloxin: Yes, it exists |
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| 23:25.38 | evaded_ | kspath: Work better now, i can kill it ;-) |
| 23:25.38 | jsn | This is an embarassing update. |
| 23:25.39 | keyhack | gnufan: Which option do I want? "internet site" "mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP" or "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail" |
| 23:25.42 | saloxin | your user has rights to write to device? |
| 23:25.51 | saloxin | hm, cups might not need that though |
| 23:26.21 | jsn | Eariler today I reported that I had bug #338640 also. But, in my case, I _actually_ had /tmp full. I did not, in other words, have that bug. |
| 23:26.30 | evaded_ | kspath: There are now another window active, but no responds of the compute |
| 23:26.30 | jsn | I'm actually fine now, and enjoying xserver-xorg 7 |
| 23:26.37 | LoneWlf791 | When I had it set up in the KDE printer manager it had all users set to be able to print |
| 23:26.46 | kspath | keyhack: Try eliminating the choices you know you do not want. |
| 23:26.50 | Parallax_ | I have a deb broken on my system and on dpkg -l shows up as "iF" instead of ii how do I remove it ??? |
| 23:26.55 | keyhack | kspath: Gee? Really? |
| 23:26.57 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: i'm out of ideas, sorry |
| 23:27.05 | LoneWlf791 | saloxin: Thanks for trying |
| 23:27.10 | kspath | keyhack: no, I was kidding. |
| 23:27.24 | LoneWlf791 | Well, I'll be back in a few |
| 23:27.34 | saloxin | LoneWlf791: for comfort in yelling at cups see http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html |
| 23:27.35 | jayeola | hey chaps. just made a new kernel on a deb box. ran `mkinit -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.5` and the box wont boot. what's missing? make dep? |
| 23:27.37 | saloxin | :-) |
| 23:27.43 | evaded_ | Can i see why my computer no more respond? |
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| 23:27.53 | stew | Parallax_: have you tried dpkg -r packagename? |
| 23:27.54 | kspath | keyhack: We can not know which one you want. That is for you the admin to know. We can hint that maybe you might not want internet. |
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| 23:28.10 | Parallax_ | stew: yes |
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| 23:28.20 | stew | Parallax_: and it just fails to configure? |
| 23:28.34 | stew | Parallax_: what package? have you checked the bts? |
| 23:28.42 | phogg | I hate abi transitions. Thank you, that is all. |
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| 23:28.43 | Parallax_ | mldonkey-server |
| 23:29.02 | stew | Parallax_: what version of debian? |
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| 23:29.28 | Parallax_ | stew: testing |
| 23:29.36 | kspath | keyhack: Do you know what smarthost is |
| 23:29.42 | stew | Parallax_: /msg dpkg bts |
| 23:29.43 | Parallax_ | stew: the error is: Fatal error: exception Failure("lexing: empty token") |
| 23:29.48 | minerale | what are the linux equivalents to "ipconfig /release and /renew" ? |
| 23:30.01 | jayeola | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.09 | keyhack | kspath: Not a clue, I just want to be able to send mail to my domain name from this machine |
| 23:30.10 | stew | jayeola: /msg dpkg kp |
| 23:30.15 | jayeola | ty! |
| 23:30.28 | saloxin | minerale: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 23:30.55 | evaded_ | I will not restart that session, i want to know what's the reason why my computer no more respond |
| 23:30.59 | kspath | keyhack: learn what a smarthost or smart host is when talking about MTAs mail servers. |
| 23:31.06 | jayeola | sheesh - the deb way is sure difrent |
| 23:31.25 | kspath | evaded_: The whole computer is unresponsive or just X? |
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| 23:31.41 | kspath | jayeola: relative to what? |
| 23:31.45 | saloxin | jayeola: if you are making your own kernel - put the modules needed to boot *in* the kernel |
| 23:31.56 | gnufan | I am thinking of scripting some bug reporting -- is there an easy way to test what the BTS system will do with reportbug -- I'd hate to screw up big time with the bts |
| 23:31.58 | evaded_ | kspath: X i guess; x at 50% because the chat window continue to display |
| 23:32.06 | delire | anyone know if the non-free debian fglrx-driver packages are actually *supposed* to work with Xorg 7? |
| 23:32.17 | miki | stew: are you there? |
| 23:32.21 | stew | miki: yes |
| 23:32.28 | kspath | evaded_: Did you change to vty1 and restart X ? |
| 23:32.48 | evaded_ | kspath: On the computer it no more work; i can do it here from the laptop |
| 23:33.16 | kspath | evaded_: I do not understand. |
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| 23:33.48 | kspath | evaded_: you are using two computers a laptop and a non-laptop? |
| 23:34.01 | evaded_ | The application xchat and irrsi whas been running; i could see the message comming. But no one window was responding |
| 23:34.09 | gnufan | keyhack: probably one of the smarthost options -- kspath is right about that even if he doesn't say it very diplomatically ;) |
| 23:34.10 | kspath | evaded_: The non-laptop is completely locked up or X is only locked up? |
| 23:34.23 | evaded_ | kspath: I have restart x |
| 23:34.26 | delire | evaded_: sounds like a CTRL-S/CTRL-Q issue perhaps? |
| 23:34.53 | evaded_ | delire: How? Control alt del had no worked |
| 23:35.07 | keyhack | gnufan: Yeah, I already tried one of the smarthost options, doesn't seem to be sending the mail to my account |
| 23:35.11 | delire | evaded_: right.. that does sound like your DE/wm has completely locked. |
| 23:35.19 | keyhack | gnufan: I think my SMTP server requires user auth to send mail through it |
| 23:35.40 | miki | stew: this is menu makeconfig error: http://pastebin.com/666170 |
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| 23:35.54 | gnufan | keyhack: I always use Postfix myself, but its menu asks pretty much the same questions. Do you want to send email through it, or to it, I thought the latter. |
| 23:36.35 | evaded | kspath: It work again, just find it strange why it has no more respond that x |
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| 23:36.49 | kspath | gnufan: apparently from it via a smart host is what it appears. It also appears that keyhack smarthost does authsmtp. |
| 23:36.51 | keyhack | gnufan: I'm running Mantis, a bug tracking program hosted on an internal server, and it takes in email accounts to send email notifications when bugs are added/etc., but does not have an option to specify the SMTP server to use, so I'm assuming its trying to use the server settings to send mail |
| 23:36.58 | stew | miki: yeah, i told you how to fix that. but why do you want to compile a new kernel? |
| 23:37.12 | evaded | kspath: I was do nothings special, and sudently no one window was anymore responding. |
| 23:37.29 | stew | miki: oh wait, you are in a kernel-headers directory, what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 23:37.46 | delire | evaded: i'd hazard a guess that you're running unstable. |
| 23:37.50 | evaded | kspath: The irssi and xchat was continueing displaying the messages of the people but no more control of it. I guess x has crashed |
| 23:37.58 | kspath | evaded: maybe you went heavy into swap? did you logs say/show anything? |
| 23:37.59 | evaded | delire: Stable! |
| 23:38.04 | gnufan | keyhack: how did you test email then? From mantis, or using "mail" ? Check the logs in /var/log/mail.* |
| 23:38.13 | delire | evaded: finally some real news ; ) |
| 23:38.35 | evaded | kspath: Going to look to it. 1024MB RAM here ;-) |
| 23:38.41 | gnufan | keyhack I always trim /etc/syslog.conf to lose the multiplicity of mail logs -- in my standard Debian build procedures at work. |
| 23:38.47 | evaded | But i need to say... |
| 23:38.57 | Baloo | baloo@ursine:~$ free -m |
| 23:38.57 | Baloo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.57 | Baloo | Mem: 2535 2408 127 0 297 1434 |
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| 23:39.10 | ggeller | I don't see anything about postfix at http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/ |
| 23:39.13 | kspath | evaded: X did not crash but some element of your Window Manager had an issue. Did you try changing WindowMangers or restarting a WindowManager? |
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| 23:39.28 | keyhack | gnufan: All four of the mail.* are empty |
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| 23:39.44 | miki | stew: so how can i fix that, could u repeat? |
| 23:39.45 | keyhack | gnufan: I sent a test email using "mail -s 'Test' ..." |
| 23:39.46 | h2k_ | Could anyone help me find a font named Console? It should e in some package, but I can't find it |
| 23:39.59 | kspath | evaded: Yeah, after you said they continued to display but you lost control over them I did not think it was swap but rather your window manager |
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| 23:40.03 | jeeaar | hello all, I was wondering what terminal command I would type in to mount my floppy drive..? |
| 23:40.07 | evaded | I have now an dual screen here, and some an hour ago i drag an droped an window from the left side to the right. And how i can explain it. All the windows was going to be dance |
| 23:40.18 | stew | miki: install libncurses5-dev |
| 23:40.27 | rredd4 | is this command correct? iwconfig wlan0 key open s:XXXXXXXXXXX ? |
| 23:40.28 | delire | jeeaar: probably mount /dev/fd0 <some-mount-point> |
| 23:40.33 | kspath | evaded: these days I feel 1GB RAM is a bare minimum but everyone has their own opinion and even 1GB RAM goes QUICK. |
| 23:40.51 | delire | rredd4: no.. it look like a kex key. don't use string |
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| 23:40.54 | jeeaar | what exactly does the <some-mount-point> mean, im quite new to linux |
| 23:41.03 | delire | rredd4: and what's with the 'open'? |
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| 23:41.14 | rredd4 | delire: trying open |
| 23:41.15 | evaded | kspath: I have here an big computer of 3,5 year old ;-) |
| 23:41.19 | tim_flatus | jeeaar, type in: man mount |
| 23:41.24 | Baloo | Eh, I could get by on 512 without problems, a lot of my memory usage is squid. |
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| 23:41.32 | kspath | evaded: Your window manager does not like multi-head? Xinerama support? |
| 23:41.34 | gnufan | keyhack: in your place I'd go with "apt-get install postfix" it'll replace exim4 automatically and won't inherit any prior exim4 config the previous admin did.... but that maybe personal bias. On the upside I know there is a how to do SMTPAUTH howto in the Postfix docs for smarthost type configs. |
| 23:41.35 | stake | I know this is unrelated, but.. can anyone help me find the torrent file for quake 4 linux? |
| 23:41.35 | rredd4 | delire: in my desktop wep is set with key |
| 23:41.38 | delire | rredd4: iwconfig wlan0 key XXXXXXXXXX |
| 23:41.42 | evaded | kspath: fluxbox |
| 23:41.48 | g3brown | I put a shell script in /etc/cron.daily It's not running it. Ideas? |
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| 23:42.04 | phillijw | ell |
| 23:42.05 | keyhack | gnufan: Let me try one more thing first |
| 23:42.11 | miki | stew: aight, isntalling |
| 23:42.15 | kspath | evaded: I thought it was ok with multi-head. I use Ion3 and Openbox3 myself though. |
| 23:42.15 | Baloo | stake: Why not buy it like a gamer who wants to continue seeing more titles on their preferred platform would do? |
| 23:42.16 | delire | rredd4: for a string type key 'iwconfig wlan0 key s:foo' |
| 23:42.24 | stew | g3brown: its either the wrong permissions or its not a run-parts compatible name |
| 23:42.34 | evaded | kspath: I think i know, i think that i have not been good setup my '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' for that dual, i think there is it |
| 23:42.43 | rredd4 | delire: foo? |
| 23:42.48 | jeeaar | thanks guys |
| 23:42.52 | keyhack | gnufan: w00t, got it :-) |
| 23:43.10 | evaded | kspath: Because i have had 4 X crashes now in 2 days, never had that. |
| 23:43.13 | g3brown | stew: the name is bkup and it's 755. It just runs a perl script. |
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| 23:43.27 | evaded | kspath: 4 'x' crashes |
| 23:43.29 | kspath | evaded: I was using several window managers with Xinerama including fluxbox on a 3 head machine and they all did well. only wmii acted ODD. |
| 23:43.31 | gnufan | keyhack: what was the one more thing -- for future reference |
| 23:43.34 | Baloo | stake Seriously... Q4 is like $20 at WalMart these days... the Linux installer is at ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/ someplace but you still need the store-bought copy to install it. |
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| 23:43.46 | keyhack | gnufan: DNS error ;-) |
| 23:43.53 | kspath | evaded: Sarge/Stable or what? |
| 23:44.01 | evaded | kspath: Sarge |
| 23:44.05 | evaded | kspath: yup |
| 23:44.06 | g3brown | stew: I can run it by ./bkup in the dir and it works perfect |
| 23:44.13 | rredd4 | delire: what is foo? |
| 23:44.19 | gnufan | keyhack: I never do those ;) |
| 23:44.20 | stake | sweet :) and I was wondering why such a small filesize! |
| 23:44.20 | stew | g3brown: hrm, dunno then. 90 percent of the time its because someone put a script in there named foo.sh ; does the script rely on some ENV variables that might not be set when run by cron? |
| 23:44.26 | stake | thanks Baloo :) |
| 23:44.27 | delire | rredd4: it's generic for "bla" or "anything" |
| 23:44.31 | kspath | evaded: I had not issues with 3-head sarge with most window managers and XFree86 |
| 23:44.35 | rredd4 | ok |
| 23:44.38 | ged | hi all |
| 23:44.46 | kspath | evaded: it was mostly rock solid. |
| 23:44.47 | delire | kspath: did you ever get wmii up and running on xinerama? |
| 23:45.01 | evaded | kspath: I think it's my fault :-( write an bad config file |
| 23:45.06 | ged | anyone know how to set apt-get to allow for testing packages to be downloaded? |
| 23:45.07 | kspath | delire: yes, ICKY. it was not intended for xinerama apparently. |
| 23:45.07 | g3brown | stew: not sure. I have it on another server and it works fine. Do you need the shebang thing at top? |
| 23:45.08 | Baloo | stake: NP. All id releases have the Windows binaries on the disc from the store. Some id releases and all Atari releases since they stopped being Infogrames again have Linux binaries on the disc from the store. |
| 23:45.12 | evaded | kspath: I'm sure it's my fault ;-) |
| 23:45.18 | gnufan | kspath: sounds cool, but the gf will complain if I nick her monitor :( |
| 23:45.38 | delire | kspath: a shame because it'd be my preferred wm for such a multihead setup. |
| 23:45.48 | stew | g3brown: yes |
| 23:46.05 | kspath | delire: it might be fine without xinerama but with xinerama wmii SUCKED. |
| 23:46.06 | g3brown | stew: I didn't have that. I'll put that and see if it works tomorrow. |
| 23:46.08 | Baloo | stake: All id titles have binaries on ftp.idsoftware.com, and if it's more than 36 months old, source is available under the GPL as well. Store-bought game disk still required to play, though. |
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| 23:46.13 | delire | kspath: a shame. |
| 23:46.15 | gnufan | ged: mixed systems are covered in the Debian reference, see also the apt-howto, all under documentation at www.debian.org |
| 23:46.17 | g3brown | stew: thanks for help |
| 23:46.21 | kspath | delire: I was told that wmii is GREAT without xinerama. |
| 23:46.27 | jmcc | anyone use portrait monitor with i810 x.org driver? |
| 23:46.36 | gnufan | ged: why are you doing it? |
| 23:46.44 | delire | kspath: it is. i'm on it now. the best non-WIMP window manager. |
| 23:46.45 | jmcc | i use Option Rotate "CCW" in the xorg.conf, it works great |
| 23:46.45 | kspath | delire: but then it kind of defeats the point of my using xinerama in the first place. |
| 23:46.52 | delire | (sure beats ION3) |
| 23:46.53 | jmcc | but it doesn't rotate the mouse, only the video |
| 23:47.05 | h2k_ | How can i rebuild font cache, or however it was called? |
| 23:47.07 | delire | kspath: possibly.. i'd like to try it to find out. |
| 23:47.11 | kspath | delire: I like Ion3 a LOT more than wmii. That is a personal preference. |
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| 23:47.43 | ged | gnufan: i want the rtorrent program |
| 23:47.56 | stake | Baloo, ok thanks, I'll try the demo from the ftp first then, if I like it I'll buy it :) |
| 23:48.47 | Baloo | stake: Save yourself some time. If you liked UT2004 and Q2, you'll like Q4 |
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| 23:48.56 | ged | gnufan: i downloaded the source to rtorrent but ./configure couldn't find "openssl's crypto library" |
| 23:49.14 | stake | but it's the first time I'm going to try to run a game on linux :P |
| 23:49.31 | delire | ged: apt-cache search ssl crypto dev |
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| 23:50.22 | stake | but I suppose you're right.. buying the cd would save me a day :P |
| 23:50.25 | abrotman | dpkg: how long does macaroni salad stay good for? |
| 23:50.29 | delire | ged: hazarding a guess, i'd say you want libssl-dev |
| 23:50.50 | Baloo | stake: If you have a recent-vintage nVidia card, the latest xorg and the latest proprietary nVidia drivers and a gob of RAM, you're not going to have *that* hard of a time. |
| 23:50.55 | abrotman | Baloo: don't oyu have email to answer? :) |
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| 23:51.23 | Baloo | abrotman: No. I quit my tech support job to take a smaller workload at double the pay as an NT administrator... |
| 23:51.33 | stake | Baloo: is it ok in debian stable? |
| 23:51.36 | abrotman | Baloo: i meant the debian lists :) |
| 23:51.44 | miki | stew: now error says that config.in does not exist |
| 23:52.04 | Baloo | abrotman: Oh. Yeah, probably, but xorg7.0 killed my ability to run kontact via SSH. "ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't determine DISPLAY. Aborting." |
| 23:52.33 | stew | miki: what are you trying to do? |
| 23:52.37 | abrotman | Baloo: nothing in BTS? asked #debian-kde ? |
| 23:52.38 | kspath | abrotman: pasta is only safe for 24-72 hours max while refrigerated but it depends a lot on oils, salts, acid content and exposure. Some ingrediants will turn bad much faster. What temp was it at and so on. |
| 23:52.40 | Baloo | stake: No idea, I roll with sid. Sid is going through a hairy xorg transition right now, so for the time being, sid is only for people already running sid. |
| 23:52.48 | _intx | anyone here running selinux? |
| 23:52.54 | abrotman | kspath: in my fridge .. for .. three weeks? :) |
| 23:53.03 | kspath | abrotman: pasta is off-topic? |
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| 23:53.10 | abrotman | kspath: i'm sure ... |
| 23:53.18 | Baloo | abrotman: Nope, nothing. No, I haven't, #orlug and #debian are the only two channels I still use on IRC, Jabber is the way of the future... |
| 23:53.19 | stake | hmm i think i'll search the google on that 'sid' |
| 23:53.24 | miki | stew: im trying to find anything related to agpgart and eventully config it |
| 23:53.29 | kspath | abrotman: depends on exposure I would bet against it being safe. |
| 23:53.33 | stew | miki: what does `pwd` say? |
| 23:53.39 | Baloo | stake: sid is also known as unstable. |
| 23:53.39 | abrotman | Baloo: too bad ejabberd is a RAM hog |
| 23:53.44 | abrotman | kspath: drat .. |
| 23:53.49 | stake | oh :\ |
| 23:53.50 | stew | miki: that kernel already has agpgart turned on, all debian kernels do, as i've told you |
| 23:53.53 | Baloo | abrotman: It is? When did that start? |
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| 23:54.17 | stake | then i'll give it a go with the demo, i hope it works! |
| 23:54.25 | Baloo | stake: Good luck! |
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| 23:54.30 | abrotman | Baloo: a friend of mine helps run jabber.org .. 2GB of RAM wasn't enough to keep it from crashing every day |
| 23:54.31 | stake | thanks :) see ya:) |
| 23:54.52 | miki | stew: pwd? it shows my current location |
| 23:55.00 | Baloo | abrotman: jabber.org is a special case: They're trying to run a Jabber site the size of Google Talk off donated hardware. |
| 23:55.07 | stew | miki: what is your current location? inside a kernel-headers directory? |
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| 23:55.18 | miki | stew: hmmm, so do u know what might be wrong? maybe i need to get some MoBo driver then? |
| 23:55.28 | abrotman | Baloo: not exactly donated .. |
| 23:55.30 | miki | stew: now its /root lol |
| 23:55.46 | stew | miki: as i've said before you should be running a 2.6 kernel |
| 23:55.56 | Baloo | abrotman: Either way, insufficient hardware for the userbase involved...a few million users doesn't just not use resources. |
| 23:56.02 | abrotman | Baloo: i think they changed the location of the server |
| 23:56.10 | abrotman | Baloo: they're now up to 4GB iirc |
| 23:56.14 | Kerr | my server box was sarge back when sarge was testing.. seems i had it looking at testing, not sarge repositories. I understand by now it will be very much etch; but is there an easy way to keep it happy without letting it get unstable, as far as weekly apt-get update/upgrade goes? It's looking to upgrade a -lot- of stuff, that look like they'd be happier as they are. |
| 23:56.22 | syntrx | oooo, 4gb ;) |
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| 23:56.27 | jshriver | greetings |
| 23:56.32 | jshriver | anyone know what causes this error? |
| 23:56.33 | jshriver | scripts/kconfig/conf.c:360: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'atoi' differ in signedness |
| 23:56.40 | jshriver | trying to compile the kernel |
| 23:56.42 | abrotman | ask #kernel ? |
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| 23:56.48 | abrotman | it is only a warning |
| 23:56.52 | ribnitz | heyas again. |
| 23:56.56 | Baloo | abrotman: Are you sure it's ejabberd and not jabberd that's the hog? Seems they started being a lot more reliable after they stopped trying to implement their own daemon and switched to using ejabberd. |
| 23:57.11 | miki | stew: if i would have any other modem, i would switch instantly.... but configuring my modem under debian is just pain |
| 23:57.12 | abrotman | Baloo: they used to be jabberd .. now ejabberd |
| 23:57.17 | jshriver | might redo this system been acting really weird. |
| 23:57.26 | abrotman | Baloo: http://status.jabber.org/ |
| 23:57.28 | jshriver | is testing relatively stable? |
| 23:57.29 | Baloo | abrotman: That being said, I run my own public Jabber server, it's using ejabberd which is only using 9MB, most of it is swapped out right now. |
| 23:57.49 | jshriver | ribnitz, get a Liteon they're cheap and nice |
| 23:57.54 | Baloo | jshriver: Relative to Windows or unstable, yes. Is testing stable? Hell no. |
| 23:57.56 | jshriver | $40 :) |
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| 23:58.00 | Kerr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.06 | Kerr | [<Cut>]libssl0.9.7 libstdc++5 libstdc++5-3.3-dev libtasn1-2 libtiff4 libusb-0.1-4 libxau6 libxdmcp6 libxml2 libxslt1.1 linux-kernel-headers login lsb-base make manpages manpages-dev menu-xdg modutils mount mysql-common ncurses-base ncurses-term netbase passwd pciutils psmisc reiserfsprogs sed sysv-rc sysvinit tar tethereal texinfo ucf unzip whois xfwp xlibmesa-dri xlibs-data xvfb zlib1g |
| 23:58.11 | abrotman | Kerr: STOP |
| 23:58.13 | ribnitz | jshriver: thats an argument. |
| 23:58.22 | Kerr | hm? |
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| 23:58.27 | Baloo | Kerr: #flood exists for a reason |
| 23:58.31 | ribnitz | Kerr: pastebin. |
| 23:58.37 | miki | stew: also USB aint working well on fresh install, so first i need to get USB to work... then modem to work and then i can install anything else |
| 23:58.41 | stew | miki: i don't see why switching kernels would require you to reconfigure your modem |
| 23:58.44 | Kerr | two posts is a flood? I thought under 4 = ok? |
| 23:58.50 | abrotman | they were very long |
| 23:58.53 | miki | stew: its related to uhci USB driver |
| 23:59.11 | abrotman | Kerr: first .. change your sources to point at etch |
| 23:59.12 | Baloo | Kerr: Two lines of a reasonable length, not two lines that are five lines long themselves... |
| 23:59.14 | jshriver | ribnitz, hrm well not meant to be an argument.. bought my liteon and several of my friends bought lite-ons, none of us have had any problems in about a year.. so just going from experience, and it was only $45 |
| 23:59.18 | stew | miki: have you tried ohci? |
| 23:59.20 | abrotman | !tell kerr about testing security |
| 23:59.26 | Baloo | BBL |
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| 23:59.36 | stew | miki: are you saying its not working on either 2.4 or 2.6 or just not iwth 2.6.8? |
| 23:59.40 | miki | stew: yes, and ehci... but my mobo supports uhci and on 2.4.27 it works on hci |
| 23:59.42 | miki | uch |
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| 23:59.46 | jshriver | Baloo what do you recommend then? Stable/testing/untable |
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| 23:59.51 | jshriver | er unstable.. what is etch? thought that was testing |
| 23:59.59 | ribnitz | jshriver: Have al iteon cd burner working like a charm. the dead one is a NEC. (DVD burner). |
