| 00:00.04 | kspath | insidius: What prompt as who/what? did you do a man on rm so you would even know rm was for? |
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| 00:00.42 | syntrx | sanmarcos: not quite. |
| 00:00.44 | syntrx | $ rm -rf / |
| 00:00.44 | syntrx | rm: cannot remove directory `//lost+found': Permission denied |
| 00:00.49 | syntrx | ;) |
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| 00:00.58 | deadcat | good for you then |
| 00:01.01 | Soulfly | hi. anyone know how to recover deleted photos from a sdram card. I have the image for the partition now in a file after using the dd command. can I get debugfs to read my image? |
| 00:01.05 | nse | you must be god |
| 00:01.24 | insidius | Hmm yes i know what rm is, i was running as root |
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| 00:01.41 | stew | Ts0p: do you not have a way to get those things into a pastebin? |
| 00:02.07 | abrotman | pastebin.ca supports file upload |
| 00:02.25 | maher | Soulfly: is the fs vfat? try using the standard dos undelete tools |
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| 00:02.53 | obscuresoul | hello |
| 00:03.11 | sanmarcos | Soulfly: the file is still there, if you havent written anything to the card after your removal of the file |
| 00:03.16 | Soulfly | maher: dos? i'm not running any Bill Gates programs |
| 00:03.27 | sanmarcos | Soulfly: of course, you have to check what fs it is, then use a special tool to recover it |
| 00:03.32 | maher | Soulfly: probably comes with mtools |
| 00:04.12 | maher | Soulfly: and operate on the file image ro not on the original disc... |
| 00:04.30 | Soulfly | vfat/dev/sde1 on /media/CANON_DC type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) |
| 00:04.46 | obscuresoul | i'm trying to load gnome-cups-manager and i obtain this message "(gnome-cups-manager:6481): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." how can i solve this? |
| 00:05.09 | sanmarcos | obscuresoul: its not an error |
| 00:05.12 | sanmarcos | obscuresoul: you can ignore it |
| 00:05.17 | abrotman | obscuresoul: use a supported method? :) |
| 00:05.31 | Soulfly | maher: I have a file image of sde1 (the partition) (+ an extra backup). i'll go look at mtools |
| 00:05.59 | maher | Soulfly: mtools doesn't have it - try finding a dos .exe and running it under wine... |
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| 00:06.07 | lucia | Hi. Please help me I'm having this weird problem with mount... Please see: http://pastebin.com/668292 |
| 00:06.45 | obscuresoul | sanmarcos, i thought it was :P tks |
| 00:06.52 | abrotman | lucia: is that from a liveCD? |
| 00:06.58 | obscuresoul | abrotman, what are you talking about? :P |
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| 00:07.07 | lith | For some reason all services but web are _VERY_ slow to my remote server (dunno why) I'm trying to narrow it down. anyone have any ideas as to what would cause super slowdown on everything (connecting via FTP, SSH) while www is fine? |
| 00:07.24 | sanmarcos | lith your isp? |
| 00:07.26 | abrotman | obscuresoul: don't oppress my people! |
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| 00:07.27 | Soulfly | sanmarcos: do you know the tool for recovering vfat files? |
| 00:07.32 | lith | sanmarcos: naw, web is fine |
| 00:07.42 | sanmarcos | lith: your isp might be shaping packets |
| 00:07.50 | fenrir | Is the source for 2.6.12-1-686 still in apt? I can't find it |
| 00:07.50 | lith | sancarcos: ex: If i pull a file from my webserver i get like 150k/sec. ftp is like .5k /sec |
| 00:07.57 | sanmarcos | Soulfly: google |
| 00:08.05 | neoxan | when will testing get stable? |
| 00:08.06 | neoxan | :) |
| 00:08.18 | sanmarcos | Soulfly: spinrite is good, but I dont know if it will recover deleted files |
| 00:08.31 | sanmarcos | neoxan: when the sun turns nova |
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| 00:08.33 | lith | sanmarcos: how would i test that ? |
| 00:08.51 | obscuresoul | abrotman, ? |
| 00:08.52 | sanmarcos | lith: connecting through another isp? |
| 00:09.01 | abrotman | obscuresoul: why can't you see the lighthouse? |
| 00:09.09 | lith | sanmarcos: ahh i understand... its slow from qwest and from cox cable |
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| 00:09.16 | neoxan | sanmarcos, end 2006? :P |
| 00:09.22 | abrotman | !tell root_ about root |
| 00:09.26 | Ries | How do I start for example xmms but from the command prompt and it will show op on my x displat at :0 ? |
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| 00:09.42 | berni | hi |
| 00:09.55 | lith | sanmarcos: and from the local (locationally local, not networked local) network as well |
| 00:09.59 | abrotman | Ries: export DISPLAY=<whatever> xmms |
| 00:09.59 | neoxan | !tell neoxan about root |
| 00:10.01 | berni | I'm looking for a repository for kde 3.5 on amd64 is someone knows one ? |
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| 00:10.21 | abrotman | berni: ask #debian-kde or #debian-amd64 |
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| 00:10.32 | berni | ok thanks |
| 00:10.35 | fenrir | Ries: Assuming you're the same user on the command prompt and it X just set your display variable to :0 |
| 00:10.51 | fenrir | Ries: export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 00:10.51 | abrotman | i think $DISPLAY is set per login |
| 00:11.07 | Ries | fenrir: think.. I think that was it... |
| 00:11.11 | sanmarcos | lith: yes, its a worldwide conspiracy to slow your internet down |
| 00:11.18 | obscuresoul | abrotman, nevermind |
| 00:11.19 | kspath | Ries: see also xhost command |
| 00:11.29 | abrotman | obscuresoul: but the cows need beer! |
| 00:11.37 | kspath | !moo |
| 00:11.37 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 00:11.40 | magyar | i am running etch on a scsi-raid. When i add a sata drive to the system, I am no longer able to boot. I get the "BusyBox" prompt |
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| 00:12.24 | obscuresoul | abrotman, what's the point? |
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| 00:12.34 | ribnitz | magyar: software raid? |
| 00:12.42 | abrotman | obscuresoul: have you ever seen drunk cows try to get back to the barn? |
| 00:13.04 | magyar | ribnitz: raid 1 on adaptec raid card (hardware raid) |
| 00:13.09 | lith | sanmarcos: good thing i quit weed.... I may have started closing down my blinds :/ |
| 00:13.35 | ribnitz | magyar: i that thing needs a module, load that before youl oad the sata support. |
| 00:13.37 | kspath | abrotman: Have you ever seen drunk cow tippers try to get back into their cow while a farmer is running toward them with a shotgun or rifle? |
| 00:13.48 | kspath | into their car |
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| 00:13.57 | magyar | ribnitz: where abouts do i tell that? |
| 00:14.01 | obscuresoul | abrotman, lol no...so what? :P |
| 00:14.06 | abrotman | kspath: you sick freak .. into a cow |
| 00:14.13 | Ries | fenrir: kspath works, thanks |
| 00:14.16 | abrotman | obscuresoul: obviously you're not canadian |
| 00:14.26 | ribnitz | magyar: /etc/modules |
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| 00:15.02 | north360 | stew: i am loged in the box that i have problem with ? |
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| 00:15.35 | lith | how do i disable reverse lookup? |
| 00:15.44 | obscuresoul | abrotman, what's the point of this conversation? it makes no sense for me... |
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| 00:16.08 | north360 | stew: so can u help me setup my startx |
| 00:16.08 | nse | what do you mean by cow tippers? |
| 00:16.17 | kspath | obscuresoul: Were you born in a maple tree with a can of molson under your arm? |
| 00:16.23 | Sonny | hello, can I set my console mode (Ctrl+F1...) to have another resolution? |
| 00:16.42 | lucia | abrotman: no |
| 00:16.42 | abrotman | obscuresoul: ah .. if only you were a canuck |
| 00:16.48 | abrotman | lucia: eh? |
| 00:16.54 | lith | Sonny: depending on if you have it setup in your XF86Config ctrl alt + or - i think |
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| 00:16.59 | kspath | abrotman: Your sanity is spreading. |
| 00:17.05 | lith | or shift alt. one of those random combinations |
| 00:17.06 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 00:17.09 | Mardus | Hi. |
| 00:17.29 | billybob | what linux prog should i get for my ipod? |
| 00:17.34 | magyar | ribnitz: thank you very much |
| 00:17.34 | abrotman | apt-cache search ipod |
| 00:17.38 | lucia | abrotman: it's not from the liveCD. One day I had no problems with devpts on LFS, the next day I have this strange error |
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| 00:17.54 | maher | anyone know how pine decides which url view to use? |
| 00:17.59 | abrotman | lucia: oh .. but you mounted some LFS thing? |
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| 00:18.03 | billybob | abrotman: just hopin to get some preffered ideas |
| 00:18.08 | loggygreg | Sonny: fbset if you use framebuffer or vga=code at boot |
| 00:18.10 | Sonny | lith, i dont know if you undestood me... when I change to a terminal with Ctrl+F1, I see a resolution mmm 640*480, can it be higher? |
| 00:18.12 | abrotman | maher: firstly .. pine isn't in debian .. secondly .. i think it's in the options |
| 00:18.34 | north360 | stew: are you there? |
| 00:18.35 | Sonny | loggygreg, yep, thats what I mean... whant code is good? |
| 00:18.37 | obscuresoul | kspath, ? |
| 00:18.42 | kspath | maher: Did you want mutt? |
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| 00:19.06 | maher | abrotman: i am well aware of pine's crappy non-free status |
| 00:19.12 | maher | kspath: no |
| 00:19.15 | lucia | abrotman: yes, I am trying to follows LFS |
| 00:19.15 | kspath | obscuresoul: sorry, that was sanity bit failure. |
| 00:19.18 | abrotman | maher: ok .. and it's not in the options? |
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| 00:19.32 | maher | abrotman: indeed - but pine is currently ignoring its options |
| 00:19.48 | abrotman | maher: kill it! .. separate the 'e' from the 'pin'! |
| 00:19.50 | loggygreg | Sonny: see the documentation in the kernel source tree |
| 00:20.08 | EruditeHermit | hey, does anyone know what libc6 needs before it can install? |
| 00:20.10 | obscuresoul | kspath, eheh :P |
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| 00:20.30 | maher | abrotman: it seems to be pulling the browsers in the order in the default alternatives, but ignring my alternatives setting... |
| 00:20.34 | kspath | maher: use a hacksaw |
| 00:21.00 | loggygreg | Sonny: I use vga=791 (1280x1024x32bpp) with framebuffer |
| 00:21.03 | kspath | maher: how are you still standing? |
| 00:21.11 | miki2 | is this normal? whenever im compiling ner kernel my cpu fan is getting very loud... |
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| 00:21.17 | miki2 | new kernel* |
| 00:21.19 | north360 | maher: mar7aba |
| 00:21.20 | Soulfly | hi again. now i have a restore program. I've mounted the partition (through loop), symlinked the directory to ~/.wine/dosdevices/. but it can't find any deleted files. should I give the program the raw image somehow? |
| 00:21.23 | nse | which part of the system detemines the content of /etc/debian_version? |
| 00:21.25 | Sonny | loggygreg, nice.. this is the resolution I want |
| 00:21.26 | abrotman | maher: so it's using /etc/alternatives/www-browser ? |
| 00:21.37 | kspath | miki2: yes, that is normal else your cpu will BURN. |
| 00:21.52 | Sonny | loggygreg, to do that I have to enable the framebuffer right? |
| 00:22.04 | miki2 | kspath: lol |
| 00:22.14 | Mardus | I can't get firefox-installer working; it says that libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 does not exist (which I have searched and it doesn't). I haved googled on it, but the messages and stuff is cryptic. I use woody. |
| 00:22.14 | Mardus | And I don't know if libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 is part of pango and if, then, which version. |
| 00:22.20 | maher | abrotman: no - but its using them in the order in which they appear there (galeon/konq...) even though i picked choice 4 ( firefox) |
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| 00:22.31 | kspath | miki2: I do not find burning CPUs to be funny most of the time. |
| 00:22.41 | Soulfly | and well.. i got the following error from wine: fixme:cdrom:CDROM_DeviceIoControl Unsupported IOCTL 74004 (type=7 access=1 func=1 meth=0) |
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| 00:22.45 | north360 | ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO SETUP THE STARTX |
| 00:22.46 | abrotman | maher: but those aren't www-browser .. those are x-www-browser i think |
| 00:22.52 | north360 | ops |
| 00:23.04 | kspath | north360: first look at that broken capslock key. |
| 00:23.12 | Mardus | (resending my question because of an apparent connection problem). I use woody and I have a compiled install of gtk2.0 in woody. I can't get firefox-installer to work there, because it says that it can't find libpangoxft-1.0.so.0 . I have googled the said file, but it's impossible to find out whether it's part of libpango and which version of libpango. |
| 00:23.17 | north360 | sorry |
| 00:23.25 | miki2 | kspath: this means that CPU fan is changing it speed whenever its needed to... but its default one |
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| 00:23.39 | kspath | miki2: default one? |
| 00:23.41 | north360 | can someone help me |
| 00:23.42 | maher | abrotman: my www-browser is set to lynx |
| 00:23.47 | abrotman | !find libpangoxft-1.0 woody |
| 00:23.51 | miki2 | kspath: stock cooler, came with cpu |
| 00:23.56 | abrotman | maher: and it refuses to use it? |
| 00:23.57 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libpangoxft-1.0' (3): (/usr/lib/{libpangoxft-1.0.la|libpangoxft-1.0.so}) in devel/libpango1.0-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libpangoxft-1.0.so.0|libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.0.1}) in libs/libpango1.0-0 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/{libpangoxft-1.0.so|libpangoxft-1.0.so.0|libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.0.1}) in devel/libpango1.0-dbg. |
| 00:24.11 | abrotman | Mardus: ^^ |
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| 00:24.17 | Mardus | abrotman: mhmh |
| 00:24.18 | north360 | !xfree86 |
| 00:24.19 | dpkg | well, xfree86 is proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "x.org", or something that moves so slowly, it doesn't feel like it's moved in years |
| 00:24.31 | relis | Can anyone point me int he direction of a good sources.list for sarge?? |
| 00:24.46 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 00:24.52 | relis | err |
| 00:24.59 | kspath | miki2: if your cpu fan is plugged into board it might be designed to speed up and slow down as necessary to save energy or save the cpu from burning. |
| 00:25.03 | maher | abrotman: it doesn't use alternatives, or its own option, but somehow picks something else... |
| 00:25.08 | loggygreg | Sonny: Sonny I don't know the name of the module (it's compiled in in my kernel) It's probably something like vesa |
| 00:25.11 | abrotman | maher: if strace it or something .. can you see where it's getting that from ? |
| 00:25.23 | north360 | can someone help me setup my vedio card? |
| 00:25.27 | relis | what does apt-setup do? |
| 00:25.39 | miki2 | kspath: yeah probably, but wierdest thing is that it has no diode to detect temperature(mobo i mean) |
| 00:25.42 | maher | abrotman: i straced it but couldn't tell where it was getting it from... |
| 00:25.50 | north360 | can someone help me setup my vedio card? |
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| 00:25.58 | abrotman | that's vague |
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| 00:26.06 | north360 | !xfree86 |
| 00:26.06 | dpkg | i heard xfree86 is proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "x.org", or something that moves so slowly, it doesn't feel like it's moved in years |
| 00:26.16 | kspath | miki2: It might have something to monitor it or it might just turn up speed when cpu is speeding up |
| 00:26.35 | miki2 | kspath:probably |
| 00:26.37 | abrotman | north360: can you stop doing that? |
| 00:26.42 | Knorrie | !tell north360 about repeat |
| 00:26.52 | north360 | abrotman: stop what? |
| 00:26.55 | relis | !apt-setup |
| 00:26.55 | dpkg | apt-setup is probably a means of adding deb/deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that you can install packages from the internet. To install from a cd-rom ask me about 'apt-cdrom'. no longer available in testing/unstable since base-config was removed, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html. Gone from etch and sid. |
| 00:27.02 | abrotman | repeating and doing the !xfree86 |
| 00:27.09 | Sonny | How can I enable the colors in my root terminal? |
| 00:27.11 | abrotman | !tell north360 about ask |
| 00:27.13 | abrotman | !tell north360 about sicco |
| 00:27.14 | kspath | miki2: Are you sure you know everything about the board? Often enough there are temp monitors with no interface for you to monitor it. |
| 00:27.19 | miki2 | north360: what videocard? |
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| 00:27.28 | lixhell | hi |
| 00:27.32 | north360 | miki2: intel |
| 00:27.42 | abrotman | which intel? |
| 00:27.47 | abrotman | FFS .. stop being vague |
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| 00:28.05 | miki2 | kspath: yes, i know cuz i was checking with mbm and other stuff and no temperature chip was present |
| 00:28.22 | lixhell | what list talk about configuration of xorg |
| 00:28.23 | lixhell | ??? |
| 00:28.28 | miki2 | kspath: even bios wont show my cpu temperature |
| 00:28.31 | kspath | miki2: mbm detects things that report data to you? |
| 00:28.34 | north360 | intel 82865 |
| 00:28.39 | abrotman | !br |
| 00:28.39 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:28.40 | kspath | miki2: That is not definitive. |
| 00:28.46 | lixhell | I like choose my mouse theme |
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| 00:29.04 | north360 | abrotman: intel 82865G |
| 00:29.15 | abrotman | so what help do you need? |
| 00:29.29 | ceplma | is there any channel for packagers (something like mentors list)? |
| 00:29.42 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 00:29.46 | abrotman | bah .. #debian-mentors |
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| 00:29.57 | north360 | abrotman: when i try to run startx i get Fata error:no screens found |
| 00:30.05 | miki2 | north360: so for now, u should configure xfree to use intel default driver and thats it, later u can search for better drivers |
| 00:30.33 | abrotman | !mentors is Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors |
| 00:30.33 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 00:30.40 | lixhell | how to for change my mouse theme??? please |
| 00:30.40 | abrotman | north360: so what's the error |
| 00:30.41 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:30.42 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:31.13 | north360 | miki2: but how i tried dpkg-reconfigure |
| 00:31.27 | north360 | and i didn't know which one to use |
| 00:31.29 | Mardus | lixhell: Do you think anyone knows what you mean by "mouse theme"? |
| 00:31.34 | miki2 | north360: and? |
| 00:31.59 | miki2 | north360: afaik there is only one intel integrated default driver... |
| 00:32.01 | kspath | lixhell: Are you refering to your pointer? |
| 00:32.02 | abrotman | Mardus: i do :) |
| 00:32.20 | north360 | miki2: and when i startx i get Fatal error " screens not found"? |
| 00:32.24 | Sonny | How can I enable the colors in my root terminal? To see my directories in color when I do ls, etc |
| 00:32.31 | lixhell | i have installed crystalcursor and comixcursor mouse themes |
| 00:32.42 | billybob | where do i get new login screens and how do i make them random? |
| 00:32.58 | lixhell | crystal was last |
| 00:33.15 | Mardus | abrotman: I don't know yet, but it's not my concern right now. I am not finding libpangoxft* with find / -name libpangoxft*. I did install libpango for gtk2.0, though... Is libpangoxft part of libpango? |
| 00:33.20 | north360 | miki2: so what shall i do? |
| 00:33.38 | miki2 | north360: pastebin /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.... |
| 00:33.47 | abrotman | Mardus: what did dpkg say above? |
| 00:33.59 | abrotman | Mardus: (/usr/lib/{libpangoxft-1.0.so.0|libpangoxft-1.0.so.0.0.1}) in libs/libpango1.0-0 |
| 00:34.01 | north360 | miki2: i don't know how to do this |
| 00:34.07 | lixhell | i am using debian testing (etch) |
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| 00:34.18 | maher | the pine source is a barrel of laughs: url_launch_too_long...."Can't spawn. Command too long." |
| 00:34.19 | north360 | miki2: can u help me |
| 00:34.20 | abrotman | maher: still can't find it? |
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| 00:34.26 | abrotman | !U |
| 00:34.27 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:34.28 | miki2 | north360: save everything whats inside file and then go to pastebin.com and paste it there |
| 00:34.37 | maher | abrotman: i'm not having any fun with the pine source... |
| 00:34.40 | kspath | lixhell: apt-cache search cursor |
| 00:34.43 | Mardus | abrotman: I have it pasted in nano, so it's in clear view, but where is libs/? |
| 00:34.48 | miki2 | north360: do not edit XF86Config-4 file if u dont know how to |
| 00:34.50 | ILF_ | 3rd day in a row firefox is b0rked because of xorg7 fuckage in sid :( |
| 00:34.51 | ILF_ | /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:34.51 | abrotman | maher: i've heard it's pretty bad |
| 00:35.08 | abrotman | Mardus: no .. just install libpango1.0- |
| 00:35.09 | north360 | miki2: how am i gonna go to www. and i don't have xwindows |
| 00:35.15 | abrotman | Mardus: erm libpango1.0-0 |
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| 00:35.38 | Mardus | abrotman: Might it conflict with the libpango that I have installed through compile? |
| 00:35.41 | abrotman | it might |
| 00:35.45 | miki2 | north360: copy file to floppy or smth and do it in other OS |
| 00:35.52 | lixhell | apt-cache search cursor display various packs |
| 00:36.16 | kspath | lixhell: big-cursor is a package |
| 00:36.38 | kspath | lixhell: Do you know what you are asking about? Are you asking about KDE or GNOME themes? |
| 00:36.43 | north360 | miki2: i don't think u understand , u talk to me like as if i wrote a kernel 2.9... i m newbie and i'm trying to lear |
| 00:36.45 | dli_ | 7zip is not in debian? |
| 00:36.48 | kspath | lixhell: or E themes? |
| 00:36.49 | north360 | *learn |
| 00:37.07 | miki2 | north360: do u have two PC's, or only one with two/more operating systems? |
| 00:37.15 | kspath | !tell north360 about u |
| 00:37.27 | lixhell | no, i remember! this pack is conflict with artwiz-cursor |
| 00:37.38 | north360 | miki2: i have two pc |
| 00:37.47 | chealer | !tell dli_ about 7-zip |
| 00:37.52 | miki2 | ok, so sec |
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| 00:38.20 | Morydd | is anyone else seeing bug #362069 still with 1:7.0.0-4 ? |
| 00:38.24 | Mardus | abrotman: I don't know if it was libpango that I installed, but the source dir was pango-1.0.5 |
| 00:38.25 | ribnitz | Suppose I have more than one keyboard locale, how do I switch between them? |
| 00:38.29 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:38.35 | abrotman | Mardus: you better figure it out :) |
| 00:38.35 | kspath | lixhell: artwiz-cursor - artwiz futuristic mouse cursor for x11 |
| 00:38.47 | Mardus | abrotman: I could look into /usr/local then... |
| 00:38.50 | north360 | miki2: i am writting all what u r going to teach me, coz i think i need to mount drive a |
| 00:38.55 | miki2 | north360: open file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and then tell me whats in 'Section "Device"' |
| 00:38.57 | north360 | miki2: right? |
| 00:39.03 | EruditeHermit | hi, can anyone help me, I am unable to upgrade libc6. I get the following: http://rafb.net/paste/results/5taTs582.html |
| 00:39.15 | dli_ | chealer, thanks |
| 00:39.23 | kspath | lixhell: mouse is a device cursor/pointer is the graphical user interface part |
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| 00:39.33 | north360 | miki2: one sec |
| 00:39.52 | lixhell | kspath: i am using E DR17, but i like chango X mouse theme, i havent gnome or kde installed |
| 00:39.59 | Mardus | abrotman: It's clearly libpango in /usr/local/lib, but there's no libpangoxft anyway (libpango version is 1.0.5) |
| 00:40.06 | kspath | north360: coz is not a word Is cause so hard to type? |
| 00:40.07 | magyar | anyone managed to get xorg running under amd64? (sid or etch) |
| 00:40.41 | lixhell | kspath: this i now, |
| 00:40.49 | kspath | lixhell: So you are trying to ask about E themes? OR Are you asking about cursor/pointer themes? |
| 00:41.20 | kspath | lixhell: now is time know is related to thought/think/understanding |
| 00:41.33 | loggygreg | lixhell: go to configuration panel and choose "cursor settings" |
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| 00:41.38 | north360 | miki2: identifier: generic vedio card |
| 00:41.45 | lixhell | in the ubuntu, i see a program called gcursor for change mouse theme, i like thing as this |
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| 00:41.53 | north360 | miki2: driver :vga |
| 00:41.59 | nse | a shell that you get after issuing the command ssh localhost is a login shell? |
| 00:42.06 | kspath | lixhell: This is not ubuntu. This is #debian |
| 00:42.25 | miki2 | north360: do u hve BusID there? |
| 00:42.30 | lixhell | i now |
| 00:42.34 | kspath | lixhell: Did you type apt-cache search gcursor ? |
| 00:42.44 | lixhell | kspath: i know |
| 00:42.46 | loggygreg | lixhell: no srry my mistake |
| 00:42.48 | miki2 | north360: anyway it seems that ur vid card aint detected, so run again dpkg-reconfigure |
| 00:43.20 | lixhell | kspath: this is only comparive |
| 00:43.20 | chealer | magyar: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 00:43.38 | kspath | lixhell: Comparison? |
| 00:43.41 | lixhell | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.48 | north360 | miki2: reconfigure what? |
| 00:44.19 | miki2 | north360: u must run X config and set ur vid card there |
| 00:44.49 | north360 | miki2: ok, how can i do that ? |
| 00:44.56 | Mardus | lixhell's mother tongue is Portuguese, apparently. |
| 00:45.15 | abrotman | duh |
| 00:45.19 | loggygreg | north360: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' or 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' depending of your X server |
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| 00:46.22 | miki2 | im not sure if its reconfigure or reconfig |
| 00:46.22 | sanmarcos | how can I search and replace in pico/nano |
| 00:46.26 | Sonny | hi, how can I see the free space oy my hhd? |
| 00:46.27 | north360 | loggygreg: and which one i should choose |
| 00:46.31 | abrotman | Sonny: df |
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| 00:47.05 | lixhell | kspath: i know that gnome and kde is using X mouse theme, i like change this theme |
| 00:47.05 | Mardus | lixhell: Are you saying that debian and ubuntu are comparable to each other, which is why you are here and not in #ubuntu? |
| 00:47.06 | loggygreg | north360: try the first one if that doesn't work try the other :) |
| 00:47.21 | north360 | loggygreg: lol funny |
| 00:47.35 | lixhell | Mardus: brazilian |
| 00:47.46 | kspath | sanmarcos: have you considered using a powerful editor instead? |
| 00:47.54 | Mardus | lixhell: Can you use full sentences? |
| 00:48.08 | lixhell | i am student (english) |
| 00:48.26 | kspath | lixhell: I am studying English. |
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| 00:48.37 | Mardus | lixhell: What's that got to do with your saying "brazilian" to me? |
| 00:48.56 | DonkeyHote | can I use lilo to boot instead of grub? |
| 00:48.58 | lixhell | thanks |
| 00:49.03 | DonkeyHote | (with etch?) |
| 00:49.09 | abrotman | sure .. why not? |
| 00:49.26 | dli_ | lixhell, english is not my language either :) feel free |
| 00:49.42 | Mardus | Neither it's my mother tongue... |
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| 00:49.52 | DonkeyHote | abrotman: cause if I say no to the installer, it asks me where else I should install it. |
| 00:50.16 | DonkeyHote | nevermind... I'm blind. |
| 00:50.35 | lixhell | dli_: thanks |
| 00:50.45 | abrotman | DonkeyHote: in the installer .. i'm not sure .. but you can switch later |
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| 00:51.06 | DonkeyHote | abrotman: yea, if you choose "go back" instead of "no" it will allow you to choose lilo |
| 00:51.17 | abrotman | ok .. so use it? |
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| 00:51.22 | north360 | miki2: where did u go? |
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| 00:51.27 | lixhell | i like change my X mouse theme! |
| 00:51.27 | abrotman | !u |
| 00:51.28 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:51.34 | abrotman | !tell lixhell about br |
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| 00:51.49 | Mardus | abrotman: I'm going to see what will happen when I install libpango1.0 |
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| 00:52.09 | abrotman | ok |
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| 00:53.39 | north360 | miki2: it's Intel(R) 865G chipset anyone in this channel know how to help me setup this vid card? |
| 00:53.41 | lixhell | somebody can help me? |
| 00:53.52 | abrotman | !br |
| 00:53.52 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:53.56 | miki2 | hmmm... i ran 'make dep clean modules modules_install 2.4.27-1904', but usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot got no file, any clues? |
| 00:54.04 | abrotman | choose i810 when setting up xfree86 |
| 00:54.11 | Malder | I shut mysql down (#mysqladmin shutdown). How can I restart it? |
| 00:54.15 | abrotman | if that doesn't work .. paste the error log somewhere |
| 00:54.23 | abrotman | Malder: /etc/init.d/mysql start ? |
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| 00:54.51 | dli_ | lixhell, tell me the problem again? |
| 00:54.51 | north360 | abrotman: i did that and it didn't work |
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| 00:55.17 | lixhell | i like change my X mouse theme |
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| 00:55.34 | Baloo | Anybody else here using the proprietary nvidia drivers get GLX working in xorg7.0 yet? If so, how? |
| 00:55.34 | h|barbobot | apparently everyone on digg hates you, but they're idiots anyway. |
| 00:55.35 | lixhell | i havent kde or gnome |
| 00:55.45 | Malder | abrotman: thanks... that did it. What exactly is init.d? |
| 00:55.46 | miki2 | north360: either u did smth wrong or u might have xorg instead of XFree |
| 00:56.09 | abrotman | !init.d |
| 00:56.10 | dpkg | init.d is, like, where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript default". See also update-rc.d and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README |
| 00:56.15 | north360 | miki2: how can i check |
| 00:56.31 | abrotman | h|barbobot: wrong channel ? |
| 00:56.49 | kspath | !tell miki2 about u |
| 00:56.52 | Malder | !init.d |
| 00:56.52 | dpkg | well, init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript default". See also update-rc.d and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README |
| 00:56.57 | h|barbobot | yeah sorry, forgot to press esc + x |
| 00:57.06 | miki2 | north360: i dont know |
| 00:57.12 | Ts0p | stew where r u? |
| 00:57.34 | miki2 | kspath: its difference between UK and US english |
| 00:57.39 | sysex | north is 0 |
| 00:57.44 | abrotman | !tell Ts0p about u |
| 00:57.45 | abrotman | !tell Ts0p about r |
| 00:57.54 | kspath | Ts0p: Did you find out all details about your monitor/display/screen? |
| 00:57.56 | north100 | north is bearing 100 |
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| 00:58.01 | lixhell | dli_: can you help me??? |
| 00:58.14 | kspath | miki2: u is not valid in UK or US English. |
| 00:58.17 | *** mode/#debian [+o gravity] by ChanServ |
| 00:58.24 | north360 | u |
| 00:58.24 | north100 | anyone in here know about installing linux to devices sold as winCE devices? |
| 00:58.28 | kspath | miki2: Both versions of English use you. |
| 00:58.34 | north100 | i need help learning the eebmebeedmeded thing |
| 00:58.41 | dli_ | lixhell, oh, I don't change mouse themes, let me search |
| 00:58.42 | north100 | embedded |
| 00:58.45 | miki2 | kspath: but it will be valid some day in US english |
| 00:59.15 | north360 | north100: good luck i've been here for 3 hrs just to setup my monitor lol |
| 00:59.25 | dli_ | lixhell, click Desktop -> Preferences -> Mouse :) |
| 00:59.28 | kspath | miki2: As soon as retardation is standard in US perhaps. Might be true by 2009 with present administration in D.C. |
| 00:59.43 | maher | abrotman: HAH! pine's using /etc/mailcap |
| 00:59.52 | north100 | north360 just use knoppix and install to HD script that box |
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| 01:00.09 | north360 | !info update kernel |
| 01:00.10 | abrotman | maher: that bastard! |
| 01:00.23 | lixhell | dli_: i am looking in the google |
| 01:00.23 | kspath | north* #debian is free help for a free OS. It helps if you know your hardware. |
| 01:00.35 | miki2 | kspath: if shortcuts like 'u' are used by US marketing, then commercial bussiness already accepted that, and they are powerful enough to do any changes they like to in usa |
| 01:00.36 | abrotman | and how to read error logs |
| 01:00.44 | north100 | i have a Topcon FC-100 |
| 01:00.48 | north360 | kspath: what ever |
| 01:00.50 | north100 | anyone know htat siht> |
| 01:00.53 | abrotman | since i haven't seen either offer an error log .. i'll shoot them both with potato guns! |
| 01:01.10 | evaded | Can we get an list of 'ops' of the channel here? |
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| 01:01.22 | kspath | miki2: marketing people are professional liars one step below public affairs and press secretaries. How is that a standard for a language? |
| 01:01.24 | north360 | dude you guys keep asking about what is this and what is that...and then do nothing |
| 01:01.25 | lixhell | dli_: i havent gnome or kde, only E-DR17 XFCE4 and fluxbox |
| 01:01.43 | north360 | since u all experts here why don't you open an expert room |
| 01:01.46 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:01.46 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:01.51 | north360 | u |
| 01:01.52 | abrotman | FFS .. learn english |
| 01:01.52 | north360 | u |
| 01:01.56 | abrotman | do it faster! |
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| 01:01.59 | abrotman | we like it |
| 01:02.19 | kspath | north360: "we" do nothing? |
| 01:02.24 | dererk | Hi everyone ^^ |
| 01:02.27 | miki2 | kspath: its not standard, but it can be anytime those ppl want it to be, sience they are powerful enought |
| 01:02.29 | maher | abrotman: do you know anytihing about mailcap? if there are multiple text/html lines what's meant to happen? |
| 01:02.32 | dli_ | lixhell, does xfce4 has a mouse theme? it's not a big deal :) just use what works |
| 01:02.46 | lixhell | dli_: thanks |
| 01:02.52 | abrotman | maher: in your email in pine? |
| 01:02.56 | north360 | kspath: that all what you do/!U |
| 01:03.07 | kspath | north360: Some people know enough to get you to look for useful information and others know the next step. Keep notes and try to solve the problem. |
| 01:03.13 | maher | abrotman: in /etc/mailcap there are multiple text/html entries |
| 01:03.15 | abrotman | kspath: you !u'er! |
| 01:03.25 | abrotman | maher: oh .. not sure ... |
| 01:03.28 | abrotman | i can't believe pine uses htat |
| 01:03.50 | jonas21 | HEH |
| 01:03.52 | pipeline | abrotman: who the fuck uses pine or elm in this day and age? |
| 01:03.53 | jonas21 | so if you are using sid right now |
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| 01:03.56 | lixhell | dli_: yes, i know, i work in the enlightenment dr17 |
| 01:03.58 | jonas21 | don't dist-upgrade if you need nvidia-glx |
| 01:03.59 | maher | abrotman: my pine option should override mailcap so there is a bug there... |
| 01:04.00 | miki2 | north360: u tried to configure xorg instead of xfree? |
| 01:04.07 | north360 | kspath: what ever...i will just wait for stew when he comes back, at least he knows what he is talking about |
| 01:04.14 | jonas21 | because nvidia-glx will go away |
| 01:04.17 | abrotman | pipeline: i still use pine on a FBSD and gentoo server .. and debian packages elmo |
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| 01:04.19 | jonas21 | and your only recourse is to cry |
| 01:04.26 | haitike | hi |
| 01:04.30 | abrotman | stew: stay away! |
| 01:04.31 | evaded | Is that normal that there are an op active? |
| 01:04.33 | kspath | north360: Did you consider that you are beyond helping? Maybe no one that is in channel knows how to solve the issue you want help with? |
| 01:04.33 | pipeline | abrotman: Gentoo? server? And here I almost respected you. |
| 01:04.38 | Ronin | evaded: yes |
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| 01:04.39 | abrotman | evaded: depends on the time of day |
| 01:04.40 | haitike | someone can help me with SCIM? |
| 01:04.45 | abrotman | pipeline: it's not under my control :) |
| 01:05.01 | pipeline | abrotman: Man, pine, that's fucking old school. My first ISP gave you telnet and pine to get your mail :\ |
| 01:05.02 | abrotman | pipeline: all the servers i control run debian |
| 01:05.14 | north360 | kspath: so you are telling me that you don't know how to setup a vid card |
| 01:05.17 | dvs | abrotman: really? ;-) |
| 01:05.17 | kspath | north360: stew is smart but stew is not infinite and can not help everyone. |
| 01:05.17 | abrotman | pipeline: that's what i had at Uni .. with AIX and Pine .. what a FUBAR combo |
| 01:05.20 | pipeline | abrotman: Lucky you. My employer is 100% dead cat. With Solaris crammed in here and there. |
| 01:05.36 | maher | pipeline: i learnt pine before you were born and I don't feel like learning another mail client... |
| 01:05.47 | abrotman | pipeline: i am the admin :) |
| 01:06.03 | evaded | Ronin & abrotman : ok, but most time i never see an op active here. Like here on that channel are some kings an know the kung-fu commands to quick kick 7 ban |
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| 01:06.11 | north360 | kspath: yea i know , the only thing you guy help with ..is making fun of other people they don't know and try to learn |
| 01:06.12 | kspath | maher: You know pipeline's age? |
| 01:06.14 | dobbs | how to fix the 1-second or so delay on samba shares accessed over the internet. |
| 01:06.15 | abrotman | evaded: it's freenode guidelines |
| 01:06.28 | abrotman | i'm not sure why gravity is still opped! |
| 01:06.30 | maher | kspath: of course not - i was being a smart ass |
| 01:06.32 | evaded | abrotman: What mean you with that? |
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| 01:06.43 | Ronin | evaded: freenode guidelines, each channel has its own rules they follow |
| 01:06.43 | heny | i just rebooted my pc and always get a "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill Init", what does that mean? |
| 01:06.44 | maher | abrotman: to deal with the x whiners |
| 01:06.48 | *** mode/#debian [-o gravity] by gravity |
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| 01:06.56 | gravity | abrotman: Thanks, that's a mistake from another channel probably |
| 01:06.58 | pipeline | abrotman, maher : Definitely maher. I'm fuckin' 22. |
| 01:06.59 | evaded | abrotman: voila ;-) lol |
| 01:07.02 | Ronin | see gravity is awake :) |
| 01:07.03 | heny | i did not recompile a kernel or try to install a new kernel |
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| 01:07.07 | abrotman | evaded: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml |
| 01:07.12 | abrotman | gravity: from another channel ? |
| 01:07.14 | mne | hi guys ! is there a tool which I can use to extract nullsoft installer compressed files ? |
| 01:07.15 | e0f | hi to all :) |
| 01:07.16 | evaded | abrotman: I love you :-) |
| 01:07.18 | gravity | abrotman: #debian-x |
| 01:07.22 | abrotman | gravity: erm .. ok |
| 01:07.30 | abrotman | pipeline: i thought you were an old fart |
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| 01:07.31 | pipeline | maher: Were you really using pine in 1984? I didn't realize it was that old. I thought people used "mail" in the 80s ;) |
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| 01:07.35 | kspath | north360: It is not about making fun of anyone. Try not to be so sensitive. Perhaps you can post your question to the debian mail list so you do not have to hang out for 3 hours getting frustrated. |
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| 01:07.40 | abrotman | gravity: you have X whiners? |
| 01:07.45 | gravity | abrotman: Sure |
| 01:07.45 | pipeline | abrotman: Fuck no. I just lived through the worst in computing because I was never wealthy. |
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| 01:07.59 | abrotman | gravity: WAAAHHH .. MY X WORKS ... BREAK IT! |
| 01:08.01 | jonas21 | does anyone know a fix for this: " trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man2/create_module.2.gz', which is also in package modutils" |
| 01:08.04 | pipeline | abrotman: I got to have the "old fart" set of experiences ten years after they did :P |
| 01:08.05 | gravity | heh |
| 01:08.12 | gravity | I'm still recovering from the last week |
| 01:08.15 | abrotman | pipeline: hehe |
| 01:08.16 | maher | pipeline: ok - i only started using pine when you were 8... |
| 01:08.19 | dobbs | how to fix the 1-second or so delay on samba shares accessed over the internet? |
| 01:08.20 | abrotman | gravity: you drank that much? |
| 01:08.26 | mne | jonas21, I head the same .. I just forced it to overwrite .. |
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| 01:08.38 | pipeline | maher: That's more like it. |
| 01:08.39 | miki2 | hmmm... i ran 'make dep clean modules modules_install 2.4.27-1904', but usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot got no file, any clues? |
| 01:08.42 | heny | i just rebooted my pc and always get a "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill Init", what does that mean? |
| 01:08.43 | heny | i did not recompile a kernel or try to install a new kernel |
| 01:08.46 | pipeline | gravity: The hair of the dog is looming. |
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| 01:08.51 | jonas21 | mne, ahh, which flag to pass to do that? |
| 01:08.51 | gravity | heh |
| 01:08.52 | e0f | Hi guys, i want to ask a question. I'm running Debian testing on my box with 2.6.12-1-386 kernel. Now, i need to compile kernel headers but i don't find it. Does anyone paste me a good link for download it or a good repository? thanks. |
| 01:08.53 | gravity | I wish |
| 01:08.55 | abrotman | maher: ffs .. i thought you were older than me too |
| 01:09.00 | gravity | I've worked myself sick over Xorg 7 |
| 01:09.10 | pipeline | heny: Sounds like a udev boot script is screwed. If you still have 2.6.8 installed, try to boot with devfs=mount |
| 01:09.16 | mne | jonas21, in /var/cache/apt/archives are the .debs, just install the package with dpkg -i --force-all <package>.deb |
| 01:09.21 | tienchi | hi, http://chakravyuh.blogspot.com/2005/10/gnome-wallpaper-switcher.html somebody would tell me how to use/run this python script??? |
| 01:09.22 | maher | gravity: you are doing a sterling job - I would buy you a beer if we were on the same continent... |
| 01:09.22 | abrotman | gravity: you should get branden to send you on a vacation :) |
| 01:09.33 | jonas21 | mne, thanks |
| 01:09.34 | abrotman | maher: you are |
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| 01:09.49 | north360 | microsoft ask people for money to help them and debian ask people to put them heads down for people who knows debian |
| 01:09.50 | HellDragon | hi |
| 01:09.52 | gravity | maher: Thanks |
| 01:09.56 | HellDragon | my debian got omg legs what can i do |
| 01:10.02 | gravity | People have been surprisingly nice about all this |
| 01:10.11 | gravity | Aside from a few exceptions |
| 01:10.12 | maher | gravity: ummm.... ok I owe you a beer then :) |
| 01:10.13 | heny | pipeline: how can i see that? i only did "update-rc.d gameserver defaults 99" |
| 01:10.16 | gravity | hehe |
| 01:10.17 | abrotman | north360: can you in some concise fashion .. describe your problem .. and provide us with errors/logs ? |
| 01:10.23 | mne | e0f, you don't compile kernel headers ;) there are just there in case you want to compile some external module |
| 01:10.38 | HellDragon | its really anoying a debian with legs |
| 01:10.51 | miki2 | abrotman: he dont know if hes using xorg or ofree86 and he cant run X cuz vid card problem |
| 01:10.55 | north360 | abrotman: you can scroll up if you want to help me, u asked me three times already |
| 01:10.58 | e0f | mne: i try to configure Vmware, but it don't find me kernel header |
| 01:11.07 | pipeline | heny: Well, I guess that could be it, too. I've run into that particular problem fucking up udev. It's a pretty generic error, I went with the solution to the root problem I've run into most often. |
| 01:11.08 | gravity | miki2: Anyone can check on xfree86 vs Xorg. Run X -version |
| 01:11.13 | lixhell | all: thanks |
| 01:11.17 | HellDragon | ok what can i do really |
| 01:11.20 | heny | pipeline: so what to do? |
| 01:11.36 | nse | where does the word hashed in this context came from "hashed commands"? hash in my dictionary mean a food or something else.. |
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| 01:11.55 | kspath | north360: perhaps write up your problem and ALL particulars in a file using your prefered editor and paste it !tell north360 about paste |
| 01:11.57 | Soulfly | hello there.. im trying to recover some deleted photos from an SDRAM card.. i've now tried 8 different undelete/recovery/blah - programs under wine without any success (mostly crashes, one needed Administrator, a few hit some stubs in wine). anyone have a _working_ solution for undeletion on a vfat partition? |
| 01:12.06 | mne | e0f, if you want to compile a kernel by yourself, just install the debian kernel sources. then extract them, configure them with "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig" (whatever you prefer). after that compile the kernel and the modules with make-kpkg |
| 01:12.09 | pipeline | nse: hash = cut into tiny bits. Hash algorithms cut data into tiny bits. |
| 01:12.31 | pipeline | nse: That is, they cut data into tiny bits and throw away great chunks of it. |
| 01:12.35 | mne | e0f, I see .. so will just need to install the kernel-headers from debian .. |
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| 01:12.43 | abrotman | north360: i'm really not going to help you if you can't spell out "you" |
| 01:12.48 | maher | Soulfly: if all else fails use a hex editor to look for the data |
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| 01:12.55 | north360 | kspath: no thanks i'll just come back tomorrow |
| 01:12.55 | evaded | Soulfly: 'testdisk'?? |
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| 01:13.02 | north360 | abrotman: u |
| 01:13.03 | pipeline | Soulfly: Undeletion from FAT is very hit-or-miss. Sounds like you're "missing". |
| 01:13.08 | e0f | mne: yeah, but i don't find it..i ask only a good link for download it. |
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| 01:13.22 | evaded | Soulfly: apt-cache show testdisk |
| 01:13.25 | abrotman | north360: that's fine .. you're on your own .. and everyone else sees that you're not being helpful .. and will refuse to help you also |
| 01:13.28 | north360 | abrotman: u like in you or u like in u |
| 01:13.34 | maher | Soulfly: look at the file table and see if the files are still listed - try adding their first characters manually... |
| 01:13.35 | kspath | I guess some people are not willing to be nice enough to pay a you for FREE help. |
| 01:13.38 | bwlang | anybody use cable management arms for your rack equipment? I'm thinking of buying some but I don't know how they attach to the server... (sorry if it's a little off topic) |
| 01:13.41 | heny | pipeline? |
| 01:13.51 | pipeline | heny: I don't have any more suggestions. |
| 01:13.57 | pipeline | bwlang: "arms" ? |
| 01:14.00 | maher | Soulfly: if that doesn't work look for the EXIF headers |
| 01:14.05 | north360 | abrotman: oh yeah after ispend 3 hrs here now u telling me am not usefull |
| 01:14.09 | heny | pipeline, you didn't tell me any suggestions, i don't know what to do at all |
| 01:14.10 | heny | :( |
| 01:14.13 | abrotman | bwlang: maybe #hardware .. but i'd think they attach to the rack |
| 01:14.13 | pipeline | bwlang: Uh, all the rack servers I've bought came with little trays that screwed onto the back of the rails in a vendor-specific way. |
| 01:14.23 | pipeline | heny: I gave you /a/ suggestion, but I don't think it's relevant. |
| 01:14.38 | abrotman | north360: i wasn't here .. i'm asking you for stuff to help me help you .. and to ask you to speak like a normal person .. if you can't do that .. piss off and die |
| 01:14.39 | pipeline | bwlang: At any rate, it'll vary greatly vendor to vendor... |
| 01:14.40 | mne | e0f, if they are not included in the testing distribution (they should be included!) you need to compile your own kernel or install a newer debian stock kernel that also has a kernel-headers package |
| 01:14.48 | heny | so i ask again |
| 01:14.50 | heny | i just rebooted my pc and always get a "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill Init", what does that mean? |
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| 01:14.52 | heny | i did not recompile a kernel or try to install a new kernel |
| 01:14.54 | pipeline | bwlang: You can buy generic cable guides that screw onto the frotn of a rack, but there's nothing special about them. |
| 01:15.09 | pipeline | heny: attempting to kill init means that init, the first process, died unexpectedly |
| 01:15.11 | miki2 | mne: if i have <M> options selected in menuconfig, are they going to be auto-compile into kernel with make0-kpkg, or do i need to compile them manually? |
| 01:15.19 | pipeline | heny: something tried to kill it (quite possibly it tried to kill itself) |
| 01:15.22 | north360 | abrotman: maybe i'll piss of on your face |
| 01:15.24 | kspath | north360: Do you understand the most important person in helping you is you. If you keep careful notes and useful details in a file than pasting according to channel policy would be easier for you or anyone else. |
| 01:15.25 | dvs | miki2: they will be modules |
| 01:15.27 | heny | pipeline, yeah but i cannot do anything now!? |
| 01:15.28 | pipeline | heny: The next question is why it would kill itself, hence my suggestion that something is fucked with udev. |
| 01:15.30 | north360 | abrotman: respect your self |
| 01:15.30 | e0f | mne: thanks, but if i want to download it from google? |
| 01:15.52 | pipeline | heny: if udev is fucked, there will be no tty devices. If there are no tty devices, getty can't start. If getty can't start, init will kill itself. If init kills itself, you get that error. |
| 01:15.54 | bwlang | pipeline: it's not a guide i'm looking for... it's a folding arm that extends and keeps the cables from getting snagged when you pull out equipment. it attaches to the rack like anything else but i don't know how to attache it to the computer... |
| 01:16.04 | north360 | kspath: please i realy beg you go thru the whole log today and see |
| 01:16.09 | nse | pipeline: the output of hash is something like a list of the commands i have typed with numbers that means how many times i typed them. is there something related to link a the call of a command to the specific binary file system? why hash then? |
| 01:16.10 | pipeline | bwlang: Then I have no idea what you're talking about :P |
| 01:16.19 | abrotman | north360: are you kidding me .. people are offering help .. and you're being abusive to them? |
| 01:16.19 | mne | e0f, also check that you have the deb-src entrys in your /etc/apt/sources.list. I guess you won'T find them searching for google. if you do anyway, just download the .deb and install it using dpkg -i <package>.deb |
| 01:16.20 | kspath | north360: I do not log the channel. |
| 01:16.28 | bwlang | pipeline: oh well... thanks anyway. |
| 01:16.35 | pipeline | nse: That's a data type, a hash. |
| 01:16.47 | pipeline | nse: It's called a hash because it's like an array, but indexed by a hash algorithm. |
| 01:16.48 | abrotman | bah .. north360 is apparently a troll |
| 01:17.02 | mne | miki2, make-kpkg builds them as well. if you install the package that make-kpkg generates, it will also install the modules |
| 01:17.04 | e0f | mne: i try to search on google, but i don't find nothing, do u help me to find it please ? |
| 01:17.08 | pipeline | heny: I suggested you try to boot with "devfs=mount" in your kernel arguments, which will deactivate udev before it breaks :P |
| 01:17.20 | pipeline | heny: devfs only exists in kernels 2.6.8 and below, though. |
| 01:17.25 | miki2 | north360: dude, just check if ur using xorg or xfree86 and then configure used one.... |
| 01:17.33 | north360 | abrotman: you know if fixing my montior will be thru you only i'll reather by a new computer than you helping me, because you don't respect peopl |
| 01:17.40 | kspath | north360: I do not have time to follow all the conversations so I will never have time to go back and read them. That is why using paste is nice. You can collect the data and put it in one file for your current and future reference and then paste when asked. |
| 01:17.48 | abrotman | north360: please leave me alone |
| 01:17.51 | pipeline | nse: It's "indexed by a hash algorithm" because you'll give it a word as an index, and the word will be hashed out to be just a number |
| 01:17.52 | heny | pipeline, how do i do that? boot with that argument |
| 01:17.55 | Soulfly | heny: that means that your kernel doesn't feel good. if you help me recover my photos; the kernel might just be happy again... or .. you could compile in kdbg and some more information |
| 01:17.59 | kspath | !tell north360 about paste |
| 01:18.01 | north360 | abrotman: you do the same |
| 01:18.06 | pipeline | heny: in grub, you just edit the line that says "kernel" |
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| 01:18.13 | mne | e0f, dude, sorry but you'll have to do that on your own. but I do not believe that there are no kernel-headers for your debian stock kernel in the first place :P |
| 01:18.20 | pipeline | heny: at boot time, highlight the line that says kernel foo bar baz qux, hit "e", and add "devfs=mount" to the end |
| 01:18.28 | maher | heny: get a boot disc / live cd and try and fix things |
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| 01:18.40 | abrotman | north360: i'm not the one begging for help and unwilling to help those willing to help you |
| 01:18.46 | north100 | kill everyone |
| 01:18.48 | evaded | Soulfly: Have you try 'testdisk'? I'm not sure it can help you but i have only read the description of it |
| 01:18.54 | north360 | kspath: i have to leave work now, but i really thank you for the fact that you respect your self and others |
| 01:18.56 | pipeline | nse: I'm sorry it's so non-obvious to non-english speakers. I didn't write perl, it's not my fault. It's perfectly clear to me for reasons I cannot explain :\ |
| 01:18.57 | maher | e0f: the headers might be called linux-headers instead of kernel-headers |
| 01:19.10 | fenrir_ | I compiled and installed the linux-wlan-ng drivers for my netgear MA401 and dmesg says it loads and removes the correct drivers on insertion/ejects but I still don't have a wlan0 |
| 01:19.18 | Soulfly | evaded: no. but i'm all over it :) thanks |
| 01:19.34 | e0f | maher: i know that, but i don't find my linux-headers ... i need 2.6.12-1 |
| 01:19.42 | north360 | kspath: i'll try and come tomorrow , again thank you |
| 01:19.42 | kspath | north100: Did you consider that your nick does not have such unnecessary priviledges as terminating everyone? |
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| 01:20.10 | maher | e0f: try snapshot.debian.org |
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| 01:20.54 | e0f | maher: this URL don't exist . |
| 01:21.01 | [BAF64] | can someone give me a command that will install all the normal gcc/make/automake/etc stuff and stdlib and all the standard stuff? |
| 01:21.06 | kspath | north360: I have no respect for myself. I am hanging out unemployed in #debian trying to assist a person here and there for no monetary gain or support. |
| 01:21.06 | [BAF64] | i installed gcc but didn't get much |
| 01:21.14 | maher | e0f: .net |
| 01:21.32 | dvs | kspath: Hey! I used to be there. |
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| 01:21.37 | maher | [BAF64]: apt-get install build-essential |
| 01:21.38 | abrotman | !b-e [BAF64] |
| 01:21.38 | dpkg | [BAF64]: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 01:21.42 | dvs | kspath: Actually, that's how I got started |
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| 01:21.46 | [BAF64] | hmm |
| 01:21.57 | [BAF64] | thanks |
| 01:21.59 | kspath | dvs: started? you have not finished yet? |
| 01:22.01 | billybob | hey i need a windows emulator... what do u guys suggest? |
| 01:22.05 | [BAF64] | whoa |
| 01:22.07 | kspath | dvs: get back to work |
| 01:22.12 | pipeline | billybob: VMWare Server |
| 01:22.16 | [BAF64] | i get broken packages error |
| 01:22.18 | pipeline | billybob: It's free, no strings attached |
| 01:22.18 | dvs | kspath: On my 1st anniversary of my current job, I'm still here |
| 01:22.32 | magyar | anyone managed to get xorg running under amd64? (sid or etch) |
| 01:22.34 | billybob | pipeline: alright thanks |
| 01:22.40 | kspath | dvs: I do not see you here. ;-) |
| 01:22.46 | dvs | o_O |
| 01:23.09 | Soulfly | evaded: testdisk recovers partitions, not files. thank you for the tip anyway! |
| 01:23.09 | kspath | dvs: is your right eye shrinking or your left eye swollen? |
| 01:23.15 | abrotman | !irritate kspath |
| 01:23.15 | dpkg | kspath: HELP ME!!! where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol ????? |
| 01:23.26 | miki2 | that north360 guy was here jut to bug other ppl, sience few persons told him what to do |
| 01:23.27 | kspath | !spank dpkg |
| 01:23.28 | [BAF64] | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 01:23.28 | [BAF64] | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
| 01:23.28 | [BAF64] | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
| 01:23.28 | [BAF64] | or been moved out of Incoming. |
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| 01:23.32 | dvs | kspath: I'm a bit miffed |
| 01:23.33 | h2k | I can't seem to get some fonts working/loaded. The particular one I'm missing is 'Console'. I have installed xfs, tried various things, but still nothing. Any ideas how to get X recognise all fonts mentioned in xorg.config? |
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| 01:23.43 | e0f | maher: thanks . |
| 01:23.44 | [BAF64] | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. |
| 01:23.46 | [BAF64] | whats that mean? |
| 01:23.54 | [BAF64] | i'm using the latest stable |
| 01:24.05 | kspath | dvs: Are you Canadian or a Brit? miffed is not so common usage in US. |
| 01:24.07 | h2k | ah, and btw i'm using amd64 |
| 01:24.15 | dvs | kspath: canuck |
| 01:24.21 | abrotman | [BAF64]: apt-get update ? |
| 01:24.25 | billybob | pipeline: this seems to good to be free... |
| 01:24.39 | Mardus | abrotman: Now the install seemed to work, but this time, another file is missing to run firefox-bin: libXft.so.2 |
| 01:24.45 | kspath | dvs: I use miffed but I am sometimes too polite. |
| 01:24.45 | [BAF64] | did it, same erorr |
| 01:24.48 | [BAF64] | one sec ill paste bin it |
| 01:24.52 | pipeline | billybob: They give you a taste, hoping you'll get hooked. |
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| 01:25.15 | abrotman | Mardus: do you want me to do bot magic again? |
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| 01:25.16 | pipeline | billybob: They want you to love it so much you praise it to high heavens to your employer, who goes on to buy their very expensive products, like ESX. |
| 01:25.23 | abrotman | !find libXft.so.2 woody |
| 01:25.26 | evaded | Soulfly: Have you try 'apt-cache search recover files' I get nice output |
| 01:25.31 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libXft.so.2' returned no results. |
| 01:25.34 | [BAF64] | BarfTheCat:~/ppled# apt-get install build-essential |
| 01:25.35 | [BAF64] | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 01:25.35 | [BAF64] | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 01:25.35 | [BAF64] | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 01:25.35 | [BAF64] | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
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| 01:25.36 | billybob | pipeline: alrighty then |
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| 01:25.39 | heny | pipeline, i tried "boot devfs=mount" |
| 01:25.42 | Mardus | abrotman: Looks like bot magic doesn't work. |
| 01:25.43 | heny | doesn't work |
| 01:25.47 | [BAF64] | err |
| 01:25.47 | dvs | !tell [BAF64] about flood |
| 01:25.49 | [BAF64] | stupid clipboard |
| 01:25.50 | kspath | dvs: some in US would say they are pissed but pissed in Britain is drunked/intoxicated. |
| 01:25.51 | [BAF64] | sorry bout that |
| 01:25.53 | [BAF64] | http://pastebin.bafserv.com/3483 |
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| 01:26.05 | [BAF64] | i thought that URL was copied, but sometimes i hit ctrl+c and alt+tab too fast and it doestn copy :P |
| 01:26.11 | pipeline | kspath: the difference between pissed off and pissed :P |
| 01:26.13 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 01:26.13 | dpkg | what's up, abrotman |
| 01:26.22 | kspath | pipeline: true |
| 01:26.22 | dvs | kspath: I say both. Depending about my mood |
| 01:26.26 | abrotman | Mardus: then i gues you're screwed! |
| 01:26.27 | [BAF64] | same error after i did apt-get update |
| 01:26.29 | Cowman | if I want to execute a command every 4 hours or so, is cron the best way? |
| 01:26.42 | kspath | pipeline: you forgot pissed on |
| 01:26.43 | [BAF64] | Cowman, yup |
| 01:26.47 | h2k | I have console8x16.pcf.gz in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc and FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" in xorg.config |
| 01:26.59 | Soulfly | evaded: looks good. but an "grep vfat" removed all of them.. i'll look into it though |
| 01:27.04 | Cowman | k |
| 01:27.05 | kspath | pipeline: Are you pissed off, pissed on, or just plain pissed? |
| 01:27.12 | [BAF64] | abrotman, http://pastebin.bafserv.com/3483 |
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| 01:27.27 | Cowman | my clock is drifting a LOT, I figured executing ntpdate several times a day would help balance it out |
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| 01:27.36 | pipeline | kspath: I'm working my way towards the third one. Good thing I have a whole case to work through. |
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| 01:27.59 | heny | pipeline? |
| 01:28.04 | tim_flatus | Cowman, replacing the battery might help too. ;) |
| 01:28.06 | abrotman | [BAF64]: get a less annoying nick .. and apt-cache policy libc6-dev |
| 01:28.29 | aaa44 | good evening; per chance is anyone familiar with installing the net-install on a thinkpad with a PCMCIA card ? |
| 01:28.31 | Cowman | will that still make a difference if the system is up 24/7 though? |
| 01:28.32 | kspath | pipeline: My case is empty so I put a basket in it. I will crawl into it later and be a basketcase. |
| 01:28.35 | evaded | Soulfly: I not know about 'recoverjpeg', but look a bit |
| 01:28.43 | [BAF64] | abrotman, http://pastebin.bafserv.com/3484 |
| 01:28.43 | Cowman | I thought when linux booted it started it's own software clock |
| 01:28.55 | kspath | Cowman: software clock? |
| 01:29.05 | Cowman | system time vs hardware time |
| 01:29.07 | [BAF64] | err i copied too much, but the policy is at the bottom of the paste |
| 01:29.10 | dvs | Cowman: No, it grabs the hardware clock on startup |
| 01:29.15 | heny | i just rebooted my pc and always get a "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill Init", what does that mean? |
| 01:29.17 | heny | i did not recompile a kernel or try to install a new kernel |
| 01:29.19 | pipeline | kspath: A case of beer. I rarely IRC unless thoroughly pissed. |
| 01:29.24 | heny | i only did an update-rc |
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| 01:29.32 | amphi | Cowman: linux sets the time from the rtc at startup, but ignores it thereafter |
| 01:29.36 | Cowman | so how does it keep system time after that? cause I noticed the hardware clock and system clock are not the same |
| 01:29.44 | abrotman | [BAF64]: about that nick ? .. and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:29.47 | tim_flatus | Cowman, you have a point |
| 01:29.48 | Cowman | they drift apart |
| 01:29.50 | maher | heny: udev is probably broken - get a boot disc or a live cd |
| 01:29.57 | e0f | maher: i don't find this packet, do u help me to find linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386 ? |
| 01:29.59 | heny | maher, and then do what? |
| 01:29.59 | dvs | Cowman: Debian writes back to the hardware clock just before shutting down |
| 01:30.03 | abrotman | maher: pine sucks! |
| 01:30.08 | dave88 | I have what I think is a Realtek PCMCI card, and it doesn't seem to want to recognize it (though in Fedora it is recognized) |
| 01:30.15 | heny | maher: which boot cd would you suggest me? |
| 01:30.17 | maher | heny: boot to it and chroot to your main install and try an dfix it |
| 01:30.17 | abrotman | baf: thanks :) |
| 01:30.19 | baf | np |
| 01:30.21 | Cowman | not that it's that hard to change the battery, I just don't have a fresh one here |
| 01:30.30 | maher | abrotman: yes |
| 01:30.34 | abrotman | baf: i just kept missing the [ key .. and had to backspace |
| 01:30.36 | Soulfly | evaded: its running.... |
| 01:30.44 | Cowman | anyway I'm doing mythtv... which is fairly time critical |
| 01:30.50 | tienchi | hi, http://chakravyuh.blogspot.com/2005/10/gnome-wallpaper-switcher.html somebody would tell me how to use/run this python script??? |
| 01:30.53 | baf | abrotman, http://pastebin.bafserv.com/3485 |
| 01:31.01 | Cowman | 30 seconds off and I get 30 seconds of a previous show and the last 30 seconds of what I want to record cut off |
| 01:31.08 | amphi | Cowman: just don't reboot ;) and use ntp to keep the system clock sync'd |
| 01:31.09 | maher | heny: any one - a live cd will come with lots of useful tools (knoppix or ubuntu) or toms root boot disk fits on a floppy |
| 01:31.27 | evaded | Soulfly: I also see 'gtkrecover' for ext2. Some times it can do more |
| 01:31.34 | Soulfly | evaded: holy crap.. i've got lots of images... i'm going to go through them manually now and report the result later |
| 01:31.35 | abrotman | baf: and you have run apt-get update .. correct? |
| 01:31.39 | baf | yup |
| 01:31.45 | dave88 | dhcp doesn't seem to want to self-configure (though every other computer on my network runs that way) |
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| 01:31.56 | dave88 | any suggestions ? |
| 01:31.59 | abrotman | baf: apt-get install libc6-dev .. any useful error ? |
| 01:32.01 | evaded | Soulfly: Solved? |
| 01:32.20 | baf | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 01:32.20 | baf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.20 | baf | E: Broken packages |
| 01:32.26 | Soulfly | evaded: there's hope.. i'll report in 5 minutes |
| 01:32.39 | evaded | Soulfly: Ok ;-) |
| 01:32.46 | baf | abrotman, i get that ^ |
| 01:32.46 | abrotman | baf: apt-get update;apt-get -u upgrade .. anything shown? |
| 01:33.03 | baf | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 01:33.03 | baf | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.03 | baf | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 01:33.08 | abrotman | hey .. don't do that :) |
| 01:33.13 | baf | k |
| 01:33.23 | kspath | baf: |
| 01:33.25 | abrotman | baf: apt-get install libc6 ? |
| 01:33.25 | baf | i might note that this install is about an hour old as well |
| 01:33.40 | baf | abrotman, libc6 is already the newest version. |
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| 01:33.43 | kspath | baf: If you were want to install that it would have required a dist-upgrade |
| 01:33.48 | abrotman | apt-cache policy libc6 |
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| 01:34.21 | baf | http://pastebin.bafserv.com/3486 |
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| 01:34.29 | baf | kspath, eh? |
| 01:34.33 | baf | i just wanted a working compiler :p |
| 01:34.45 | baf | i figured apt-get install gcc would do it... but it gave me nothing besides gcc |
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| 01:34.59 | lixhell | hi |
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| 01:35.16 | NoRC` | Where can i get the NVidia drivers for debian? |
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| 01:35.36 | avonej | Is installing the JRE 1.5.0 not recommended (ignoring obvious licensing controversy) over 1.4.x? |
| 01:35.41 | pipeline | NoRC`: Add non-free to your apt sources; install module-assistant and nvidia-glx; use module-assistant to build the kernel driver. |
| 01:35.54 | dvs | avonej: why would you say that? |
| 01:35.54 | pipeline | avonej: Some things still don't work with 1.5 |
| 01:35.55 | abrotman | !nvidia |
| 01:35.55 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 01:36.04 | dave88 | NoRC` -- http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html |
| 01:36.04 | pipeline | avonej: It's not a huge concern |
| 01:36.10 | abrotman | dave88: no |
| 01:36.14 | dave88 | okay, forget I said that... se what dpkg said |
| 01:36.17 | baf | abrotman, any ideas? |
| 01:36.21 | avonej | dvs: I've just heard that 1.4.x works better. |
| 01:36.24 | abrotman | baf: moment |
| 01:36.27 | pipeline | avonej: At any rate, I highly recommend that you install Sun or IBM java instead of using gcj+kaffe+classpath -- gcj sucks ass. |
| 01:36.29 | baf | do i need the dist-upgrade thing |
| 01:36.33 | lixhell | i like change my X mouse theme! somebody can help me? |
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| 01:36.45 | NoRC` | lixhell at least u can start x |
| 01:36.45 | avonej | pipeline: But you would recommend using java-package to install? |
| 01:36.49 | abrotman | baf: not likely |
| 01:36.49 | NoRC` | i cant get the dam thing to start |
| 01:36.49 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:36.49 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:36.56 | lixhell | i am working in E-DR17 |
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| 01:37.07 | pipeline | avonej: Yeah. The java-package scripts (make-jpkg) just make everything easier. |
| 01:37.15 | avonej | pipeline: Yeah, I got jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin from Sun's website. |
| 01:37.19 | abrotman | baf: OH .. i see! |
| 01:37.31 | pipeline | avonej: Using java packgae means you can install packages that depend on java, and except for eclipse, they'll be smart enough not to drag in a bunch of gcj dependencies that you will never use. |
| 01:37.37 | miki2 | while doing make-kpkg with '--append-to-version', command line should look like this: 'make-kpkg --append-to-version=.agpgart 2.4.27.agpgart' ? |
| 01:37.42 | baf | hmm |
| 01:37.50 | abrotman | baf: 3.1r2 was released i think |
| 01:37.57 | lixhell | NoRC`: yes, i can |
| 01:37.58 | baf | :o |
| 01:38.04 | avonej | pipeline: Okay, but it doesn't appear that java-package is included on the Debian installation media. Where should I go about obtaining it? |
| 01:38.04 | aliasptr | abrotman, yeah what's the deal there |
| 01:38.04 | baf | I did a netinstall |
| 01:38.16 | abrotman | aliasptr: ? |
| 01:38.23 | avonej | I mean, what should I add to my sources.list I guess would be the question. |
| 01:38.27 | aliasptr | abrotman, well you mentioned 3.1r2 being released |
| 01:38.27 | abrotman | gravity: did you get an announce about 3.1r2 ? |
| 01:38.27 | dvs | !info java-package sarge |
| 01:38.34 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.24 (sarge), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 264 kB |
| 01:38.44 | pipeline | avonej: deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian stable main contrib non-free |
| 01:38.50 | aliasptr | abrotman, and I joined here to see if I was missing something and it's not posted on the debian.org website (which I know isn't the best maintained) |
| 01:38.53 | avonej | pipline: Thanks! |
| 01:38.54 | baf | abrotman, so what's this mean? |
| 01:39.03 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah? |
| 01:39.07 | dvs | avonej: well, you don't have to use kernel.org |
| 01:39.08 | abrotman | gravity: i'm asking you :) |
| 01:39.15 | gravity | abrotman: Yes |
| 01:39.17 | abrotman | baf: it means .. it should all still work |
| 01:39.20 | gravity | Not personally or anything |
| 01:39.20 | dvs | avonej: just add "contrib" to the end of your deb line |
| 01:39.27 | abrotman | gravity: not the one from planet.d.o |
| 01:39.28 | gravity | It was announced though |
| 01:39.29 | avonej | dvs: What does kernel.org have to do with java-package? |
| 01:39.35 | baf | abrotman, would the apt-get install gcc and apt-get install make that I did affect anything? |
| 01:39.40 | dvs | avonej: Nothing it's just a debian mirror |
| 01:39.41 | avonej | Oh |
| 01:39.41 | abrotman | gravity: i've got systems that are doing the upgrade |
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| 01:39.44 | gravity | abrotman: I really don't feel like figuring out what list I got it on right now... I'm kinda busy |
| 01:39.49 | billybob | pipeline: if i have a dual boot can i run both my boots at once with this? |
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| 01:39.51 | abrotman | gravity: not a problem :) |
| 01:39.56 | lixhell | i installed artwiz-cursor comixcursor and crystalcusor |
| 01:40.07 | abrotman | gravity: i was just curious if an email had come out |
| 01:40.09 | avonej | dvs: So you're recommending I *don't* add the line to my sources.list that pipeline recommended? |
| 01:40.12 | madd_matt | Has anybody had any problems with macromedia flash's sound being distored? |
| 01:40.16 | abrotman | baf: run apt-get update again .. try again |
| 01:40.41 | dvs | avonej: all I'm saying is that you just have to add "contrib" to the line you already have in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:40.57 | NoRC` | where can i get nvidia-kernal-common |
| 01:40.58 | lixhell | i like choose between them |
| 01:41.00 | baf | abrotman, same error |
| 01:41.01 | NoRC` | my apt cant find it |
| 01:41.02 | avonej | dvs: oh, okay, and once that's done it should be able to fine java-package? |
| 01:41.18 | baf | depends on libc6 2.3.2-ds1-22 but 2.3.2-ds1-22sarge3 will be installed |
| 01:41.18 | dvs | avonej: them apt-get update |
| 01:41.22 | dvs | then |
| 01:41.23 | avonej | Right |
| 01:41.27 | abrotman | baf: try another mirror .. use apt-setup |
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| 01:41.40 | baf | ok |
| 01:41.41 | lixhell | plase, somebody can help me???? |
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| 01:41.51 | madd_matt | NoRC`, add non-free contrip to the end of your deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list then apt-get update |
| 01:42.01 | Phated | "contrib". |
| 01:42.09 | abrotman | contrip .. with trip! |
| 01:42.10 | liable | billybob: you want to what? |
| 01:42.10 | baf | abrotman, which mirror do you suggest? |
| 01:42.25 | dvs | sounds like Con Air |
| 01:42.34 | zms | madd_matt: something to do with FIREFOX_DSP in /etc/mozilla-firefox/firefoxrc ? |
| 01:42.37 | abrotman | baf: where are you physically located? |
| 01:42.57 | NoRC` | madd_matt : non-free? which one do u suggest |
| 01:43.00 | baf | abrotman, upstate NY... i was using pair and netinstalled off some other mirror |
| 01:43.06 | abrotman | baf: your machine is named BarfTheCat ? |
| 01:43.10 | baf | I'm trying secsup now |
| 01:43.11 | baf | yes. |
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| 01:43.19 | madd_matt | NoRC`, i can't remember if nvidia stuff is in non-free or contrib, just add both |
| 01:43.21 | Soulfly | evaded: it actually managed to recover lots of old photos.. The photos I was looking for were recovered very small... maybe it's avi-movies. somehow, I think it can do better job because I know I've not touched it since the deletion |
| 01:43.22 | reerG | patch-1090_BS_0306020027_2.4.21-ck2.bz2 ??? |
| 01:43.22 | abrotman | dvs: dirty canadian! |
| 01:43.23 | gunero | How should the boot-up process from power-up to kdm login screen be, in terms of the screen display? |
| 01:43.27 | dvs | ;-) |
| 01:43.30 | baf | heh, i'm several hours from buffalo |
| 01:43.46 | billybob | liable: i'm looking into a windows emulator to run my windows bootable hdd under linux |
| 01:43.48 | abrotman | baf: ok .. try carroll.psu.edu .. or whatever it is |
| 01:43.53 | Soulfly | evaded: lots of error codes from huffman-table, think thats actually overwritten photos |
| 01:43.58 | baf | hm |
| 01:44.05 | kspath | abrotman: Are you saying Canadians do not bathe? OR Are you saying dvs does not bathe? |
| 01:44.07 | abrotman | baf: and if that doesn't work .. use ftp.us.debian.org |
| 01:44.11 | baf | k |
| 01:44.22 | abrotman | kspath: i'm saying ..they don't have tubs in canada .. |
| 01:44.32 | dvs | aahahahaha |
| 01:44.32 | abrotman | they just wait for rinks to freeze and do the polar bear club thing |
| 01:44.33 | liable | billybob: right. i thought you meant something else. |
| 01:44.35 | Daveman | abrotbot |
| 01:44.38 | baf | abrotman, so what am I running after this... apt-get update apt-get upgrade |
| 01:44.39 | NoRC` | argh... where can i get a url for contrib & nonfree? |
| 01:44.42 | billybob | liable: alright |
| 01:44.45 | evaded | Soulfly: I not know about it :-/ |
| 01:45.01 | gunero | in my case, it is scrolling text, then a few seconds of completely blank screen, then an icon that seems to me like a clock appears for a few seconds and then only the kdm screen appears. is this right? |
| 01:45.02 | abrotman | baf: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get install build-essential |
| 01:45.07 | madd_matt | NoRC`, just add them to the existing lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:45.09 | liable | NoRC`: you just add it to the end of your current sources. |
| 01:45.31 | evaded | Soulfly: That memory stick, have you not mount it as read only? |
| 01:45.38 | NoRC` | yeh i understand that... but im not sure exactly what im adding |
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| 01:46.04 | kspath | NoRC`: Have you ever looked at your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 01:46.10 | NoRC` | yeh |
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| 01:46.13 | e0f | anyone that give me a good link for download linux-headers-2.6.12-1 ? |
| 01:46.13 | NoRC` | i have it open right now |
| 01:46.31 | baf | abrotman, i net installed off the kernel.org mirror |
| 01:46.35 | dvs | e0f: for etch? |
| 01:46.41 | baf | if that makes a difference |
| 01:46.43 | madd_matt | NoRC`, packages are categorized. In Main is only Open Source Software. Some other software (ie, nvidia stuff) isn't open source, but still available through apt. You are enabling those additional packages |
| 01:46.46 | e0f | dvs: yes :) |
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| 01:46.48 | liable | e0f: snapshot.debian.net? |
| 01:46.53 | abrotman | baf: it could .. maybe just uncomment that .. and run the same above commands |
| 01:46.54 | dvs | e0f: That's long gone |
| 01:46.57 | kspath | NoRC`: Do you see there are likely a few different ones listed there already? |
| 01:47.07 | e0f | liable: i don't find it here. |
| 01:47.10 | Soulfly | evaded: im operating on an copied image |
| 01:47.16 | e0f | liable: and now? what can i do ? |
| 01:47.21 | NoRC` | i have deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian stable main |
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| 01:47.28 | evaded | Soulfly: Good! ;-) |
| 01:47.36 | zms | NoRC`: It shuold look something like this: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib (with your mirror). |
| 01:47.42 | NoRC` | ahhh i get it |
| 01:47.45 | baf | abrotman, hey.. ftp.us.debian.org and the install build-essential gave me a screenful of packages and asked me to accept them... that's gotta be good news :) |
| 01:47.45 | liable | e0f: you sure? if you really need em, you can get the source and make the headers. |
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| 01:48.00 | abrotman | baf: better than before :) |
| 01:48.05 | evaded | Soulfly: I looking for stuff but not find any more about it. I'm been interested in you're case but i not know where to look more |
| 01:48.06 | abrotman | baf: pair.com must not be up to date yet |
| 01:48.08 | baf | yet it's still downloading from debian.mirrors.pair.com |
| 01:48.09 | NoRC` | thanks :) |
| 01:48.09 | e0f | liable: do u give me please a good link for download source ? |
| 01:48.12 | NoRC` | that worked |
| 01:48.15 | abrotman | baf: only for some of them |
| 01:48.15 | gunero | no one here faniliar with the boot-up process? |
| 01:48.21 | baf | ah, okay |
| 01:48.32 | liable | e0f: snapshot.debian.net? |
| 01:48.33 | baf | ah it got libc6-dev from debian's ftp |
| 01:48.45 | e0f | liable: i don't found it here |
| 01:48.46 | baf | yay it works now, much thanks abrotman :) |
| 01:48.48 | reerG | it is known someone where I can find this patch for a bootsplash patch-1090_BS_0306020027_2.4.21-ck2.bz2 ??? |
| 01:48.49 | NoRC` | This channel r0x0rz |
| 01:48.50 | NoRC` | :D |
| 01:49.00 | dvs | tell that to north360 |
| 01:49.01 | reerG | it is known someone where I can find this patch for a bootsplash patch-1090_BS_0306020027_2.4.21-ck2.bz2 ??? |
| 01:49.12 | NoRC` | I just need to get X started |
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| 01:49.20 | NoRC` | and x didnt like my 6600GT |
| 01:49.23 | abrotman | baf: that was a lot of work .. stupid mirrors! |
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| 01:49.44 | baf | hehe yeah |
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| 01:50.19 | Soulfly | evaded: i'm really greatful for your support. thanks! This program is almost there I think.. maybe I have all data, just have to recover the individual files. I got all files numbered from 1 to 151 (the last 50 really old photos completely recovered) |
| 01:50.44 | NoRC` | woot that kinda worked |
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| 01:50.48 | NoRC` | now it dont like my mouse |
| 01:50.56 | madd_matt | What kind of mouse? |
| 01:51.12 | evaded | Soulfly: I not been understand there |
| 01:51.23 | NoRC` | ps2 mouse... |
| 01:51.34 | NoRC` | it wants to know where its connected |
| 01:51.34 | kspath | evaded: I did not understand that. |
| 01:51.43 | evaded | kspath: ;-) |
| 01:52.03 | evaded | Soulfly: I did not understand that |
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| 01:52.58 | NoRC` | Any idea what /dev that would be? |
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| 01:53.13 | dvs | NoRC`: usually /dev/input/mice |
| 01:53.15 | zms | NoRC`: try adding psmouse to /etc/modules |
| 01:53.22 | abrotman | or mousedev |
| 01:53.38 | NoRC` | is there a way to check if /dev/input/mice is it? |
| 01:53.46 | fenrir | Can anyone help me get my Netgear MA401 wireless card working? I compiled the linux-wlan-ng drivers, installed them and they're loading on card insert, but ifconfig shows no wlan0 |
| 01:53.47 | Soulfly | evaded: I've got 151 jpg-files, many of them can't be shown due to errors. Last "not deleted" photo is around 70. I think the ones I'm looking for is nr 37 (huffman error) and 34 (only viewed as very tiny image in eog). So I might be able to "correct" the corrupted files |
| 01:53.55 | dvs | NoRC`: cat /dev/input/mice then move your mouse |
| 01:54.11 | NoRC` | device not found |
| 01:54.31 | evaded | Soulfly: I also hope |
| 01:54.48 | madd_matt | NoRC`, try using /dev/psaux in your config. always seems to work for me. |
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| 01:54.58 | liable | e0f: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2005/07/22/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386_2.6.12-1_i386.deb |
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| 01:55.14 | Heston | hi |
| 01:55.19 | zms | NoRC`: or use mdetect |
| 01:55.21 | evaded | fenrir: 'iwlist wlan0 scan' |
| 01:55.25 | NoRC` | yup |
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| 01:55.43 | evaded | fenrir: And also look for iwconfig |
| 01:55.44 | Heston | http://homepage.tinet.ie/~cullenm/2dart/regi.jpg |
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| 01:55.59 | fenrir | evaded: iwconfig doesn't show a wlan0 |
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| 01:56.28 | Soulfly | evaded: although they seem to be in chronological order, I think it's just numbered after in which order they were found. I'll investigate further.. I think i'll give an image to a professional and then dont stop until I get the same result myself |
| 01:57.05 | evaded | Soulfly: It's also an possibility |
| 01:57.26 | evaded | fenrir: And 'iwlist wlan scan'?? |
| 01:57.30 | evaded | oeps |
| 01:57.32 | evaded | wlan0 |
| 01:57.37 | herbi | what can i use to play .m4a files in debian? |
| 01:57.46 | Soulfly | evaded: thanks again for your help. im off to bed (4am in Sweden). goodnight |
| 01:57.49 | liable | fenrir: what does show in iwconfig?? |
| 01:57.50 | herbi | or even better |
| 01:57.54 | herbi | what can i use to convert m4a -> mp3 |
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| 01:58.07 | evaded | Soulfly: Idem hour here in Belgium :-) |
| 01:58.12 | madd_matt | herbi -- use mplayer, output to .wav, then use lame to encode as mp3 |
| 01:58.35 | fenrir | evaded: iwlist says interface doesn't support scanning |
| 01:58.39 | vyrus001 | how does one make an initrd.img for a kernerl (i just made a new one and i cant get it to boot, "i get an err about not haveing the right root= tag in grub but ive checked this")? |
| 01:58.50 | fenrir | liable: iwconfig just shows eth0 and lo and they both say no wireless extensions |
| 01:59.15 | liable | fenrir: right, then you need to load modules or something |
| 01:59.39 | fenrir | liable: But thats the thing the correct modules load when I insert the card |
| 01:59.39 | spoopin | vyrus001: man mkinitrd |
| 01:59.55 | fenrir | I tried getting wlan-agent to create it, but that didn't work either |
| 02:00.14 | liable | fenrir: what chipset? |
| 02:00.22 | abrotman | spoopin: where'd you hide asg? |
| 02:00.25 | fenrir | liable: Prism 2.x |
| 02:00.34 | zms | herbi: try soundconverter |
| 02:00.45 | NoRC` | what screen res / refresh should i use for a 17" LCD? |
| 02:00.53 | spoopin | abrotman: What? He's not here? |
| 02:00.56 | vyrus001 | spoopin, i did man it but im not so sure how im suposed to use it |
| 02:01.08 | vyrus001 | spoopin, i dont know what im realy using the command for |
| 02:01.10 | abrotman | spoopin: he's "here" .. but not HERE! |
| 02:01.18 | spoopin | abrotman: Maybe he found a life??? |
| 02:01.24 | dvs | NoRC`: Depends on your EXACT monitor model |
| 02:01.25 | liable | fenrir: what shows up in ifconfig -a |
| 02:01.28 | abrotman | spoopin: he's married .. not possible |
| 02:01.28 | e0f | liable: thanks |
| 02:01.34 | NoRC` | there's no general safe setting? |
| 02:01.45 | e0f | liable: do u rehelp me to find vmware-modules-2.6.12-1 please ? |
| 02:01.49 | dvs | NoRC`: nope |
| 02:02.00 | spoopin | abrotman: So am I, but that's no excuse for me.... besides, my wife's a gamer |
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| 02:02.18 | fenrir | liable: eth0 lo sit0 |
| 02:02.24 | klaxian | anyone use beagle? |
| 02:02.26 | abrotman | spoopin: HEAD GAMES! |
| 02:02.29 | zms | NoRC`: I have: HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3 and VertRefresh 50-70 (for a Syncmaster 713N 17" LCD) |
| 02:02.41 | spoopin | vyrus001: been a while since I've used it myself... there's bound to be appropriate tutorials I hope |
| 02:02.46 | h2k | xfonts-konsole doesn't seem to provide me Console font, tho it should. What could I be doing wrong? |
| 02:02.59 | spoopin | abrotman: those too, but primarily City of Heroes |
| 02:03.19 | liable | fenrir: then you got a problem. you sure the modules are loaded? |
| 02:03.26 | abrotman | spoopin: hehe |
| 02:03.59 | fenrir | dmesg says prism2_init: prism2_cs.o laoded |
| 02:04.00 | liable | e0f: no idea what that is. |
| 02:04.23 | e0f | liable: vmware modules for virtual machine :) |
| 02:04.26 | spoopin | abrotman: seen any recent security issues in Sarge? Looks like libc6, perl, exim4... |
| 02:04.37 | abrotman | spoopin: now .. if you could starting singing that head games song |
| 02:04.42 | abrotman | spoopin: 3.1r2 |
| 02:04.53 | liable | e0f: but is it in debian? |
| 02:05.13 | e0f | liable: yes but i don't find this module version now. |
| 02:05.19 | spoopin | abrotman: ahh. I didn't get the memo. |
| 02:05.37 | spoopin | abrotman: ..need to spend more time hanging out here, I guess |
| 02:05.51 | abrotman | spoopin: noone did .. i'm looking for the dev email now |
| 02:06.15 | baf | thanks again abrotman |
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| 02:06.37 | dvs | Vermont? yuck! |
| 02:06.42 | liable | e0f: i cant find anything in my box except the xorg module |
| 02:07.02 | NoRC` | urgh... no devices detected |
| 02:07.07 | spoopin | abrotman: cool. |
| 02:07.21 | e0f | liable: in my box i find a lot of version but not that i need. |
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| 02:08.24 | abrotman | hey .. did you guys know that there is a debian-knoppix mailing list? |
| 02:09.06 | abrotman | spoopin: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2006/04/msg00100.html |
| 02:09.23 | abrotman | if anyone sees one of the ops swing by .. ask them to put this in the topic http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2006/04/msg00100.html |
| 02:09.31 | abrotman | or make some mention |
| 02:09.33 | spoopin | abrotman: great. Thanks. |
| 02:09.59 | spoopin | abrotman: ha.. I was thinking the same thing. Ideal candidate for topic |
| 02:10.20 | miki2 | when im doing make-kpkg kernel_image, do i need to add line: 'modules_image' to get modules? |
| 02:10.27 | dvs | miki2: nope |
| 02:10.32 | abrotman | i probably should have told liable .. aussies don't do anything on wednesdays |
| 02:10.33 | miki2 | k |
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| 02:10.57 | liable | abrotman: as a matter of fact you are right.. i have a day off! :) |
| 02:11.06 | abrotman | see! |
| 02:11.18 | abrotman | liable: got a hot date with the cow down the street? |
| 02:11.32 | dvs | abrotman: Noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:11.40 | liable | abrotman: yep, flame grilled with pepper sauce! |
| 02:11.49 | miki2 | are there any debian newsgroups? |
| 02:11.53 | abrotman | dvs: you're the cow down the street? |
| 02:11.58 | abrotman | !forums |
| 02:11.58 | dpkg | somebody said forums was http://forums.debian.net/ http://www.debianhelp.org/ http://www.debianplanet.org/, or http://www.debianforums.org (basically dead) |
| 02:12.08 | dvs | abrotman: Nooooo.. ahem... I mean no |
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| 02:14.02 | abrotman | !moo |
| 02:14.03 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 02:16.07 | NoRC` | YAY |
| 02:16.12 | NoRC` | It all works |
| 02:16.13 | NoRC` | thanks heaps fellas |
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| 02:16.24 | pip | nhello |
| 02:16.26 | pip | hello |
| 02:16.27 | NoRC` | Im off to do some work now ... :) |
| 02:16.43 | pip | Why can't I connect to Ubuntu servers? |
| 02:16.58 | pip | Why? |
| 02:16.59 | liable | because you run debian? |
| 02:17.11 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 02:17.11 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 02:17.12 | pip | It said connection denied |
| 02:17.29 | pip | liable, I am using ubuntu now |
| 02:17.35 | pip | liable, I like Debian |
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| 02:17.47 | zinx | pip: ask in #ubuntu |
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| 02:17.50 | evaded | pip: Ubuntu again down?? |
| 02:17.54 | zinx | pip: we don't know why you can't connect to ubuntu's servers |
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| 02:18.17 | liable | pip: its a sign from $(DEITY), install debian instead. the servers are very reliable. |
| 02:18.30 | pip | evaded, Yes,I must be ,I can't connect to it |
| 02:18.52 | evaded | pip: Look for somethings _more_ stable?? |
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| 02:18.54 | pip | liable, lol |
| 02:19.06 | pip | evaded, hehe~~~ |
| 02:19.07 | abrotman | pip: you're in the wrong channel ... /join #ubuntu |
| 02:19.12 | karma | join #penis |
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| 02:19.33 | liable | ahem.. |
| 02:19.40 | gravity | karma: Stop that |
| 02:19.47 | karma | hehe |
| 02:19.48 | abrotman | gravity: i found the email! |
| 02:19.50 | karma | :P |
| 02:19.55 | abrotman | how is it funny? |
| 02:19.57 | pip | abrotman, I can't connect to ubuntu server s |
| 02:20.03 | pip | abrotman, so I am here |
| 02:20.04 | karma | join #asdfg |
| 02:20.09 | abrotman | pip: /join #ubuntu |
| 02:20.09 | miki2 | i did make-kpkg with --initrd option, where should i looks for initrd file? |
| 02:20.18 | liable | pip: dude, you are asking in the wrong channel |
| 02:20.21 | abrotman | karma: do you have brain damage? |
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| 02:20.40 | liable | miki2: install the resulting .deb file. |
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| 02:20.50 | miki2 | liable: fine |
| 02:21.12 | pip | liable, I have done |
| 02:21.16 | pip | Thankyou all |
| 02:22.57 | liable | thats karma for ya! :) |
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| 02:23.03 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 02:23.25 | liable | what? |
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| 02:25.34 | abrotman | liable: what time are you picking up the cow? |
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| 02:27.28 | liable | abrotman: i forget. What time does your mom finish work again? |
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| 02:27.49 | abrotman | liable: about sunrise :) |
| 02:28.02 | bureado | Ouch |
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| 02:28.57 | Vyrus001 | i know i just asked this question but i got dissconnected. what is the propper way to use mkinitrd to make an image for a new kernel in grub ? |
| 02:29.45 | hikenboot | can anyone recommend a good distro based on debian or debian itself that would make a good base for pxes thin client ..I would prefer somthing with good hardware detection including video printers usb hard drives nic cards...etc..etc and based on 2.6 kernel .....thin is the key |
| 02:30.18 | abrotman | hikenboot: we don't know anythinga bout debian-based distros |
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| 02:30.54 | liable | yay, new bluetooth card for my laptop turned up :) |
| 02:30.56 | hendry | is there a way to temp disable apt-listchanges? taking forever to pull bug reports ... |
| 02:30.59 | hikenboot | well i am quite familiar with debian and its video detection and stuff would be unacceptable for clients... |
| 02:31.12 | abrotman | liable: is that how mail is in .au ? :) |
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| 02:31.36 | liable | abrotman: i dont get it? please explain! |
| 02:31.48 | abrotman | liable: your bluetooth card just turns up ? |
| 02:31.58 | miki2 | so now im on my new kernel, but i dont have agp listen in lspci still.. wtf |
| 02:32.05 | liable | abrotman: yeah. in the mail box. :) |
| 02:32.25 | abrotman | liable: they deliver via kangaroo ? |
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| 02:32.57 | liable | abrotman: no, kangaroos are only used to get to work. |
| 02:33.20 | liable | bah, the aerial got squashed |
| 02:33.28 | kspath | abrotman: You have email? |
| 02:33.37 | abrotman | kspath: no .. i use nc |
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| 02:34.10 | kspath | liable: koala are for riding home? |
| 02:34.30 | abrotman | wombat? |
| 02:34.31 | liable | stop picking on me! |
| 02:34.37 | abrotman | !phillysmite liable |
| 02:35.23 | kspath | abrotman: what rivers caught fire in the last 50 years? |
| 02:35.37 | abrotman | kspath: lake erie ? |
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| 02:35.51 | kspath | abrotman: When did Erie become a river? |
| 02:35.57 | rhdebfed | how do i list what hardware is in my pc ? |
| 02:36.10 | kspath | rhdebfed: apt-get install hwinfo |
| 02:36.20 | kspath | rhdebfed: hwinfo |
| 02:36.59 | abrotman | kspath: piss off .. it caught on fire! |
| 02:37.08 | kspath | rhdebfed: Would be a good idea to know that without any software. |
| 02:37.14 | kspath | abrotman: :-) |
| 02:37.14 | abrotman | kspath: and in the 70s .. Lake Erie was polluted enough to develop film |
| 02:37.16 | liable | now i need a little screw.. |
| 02:37.30 | miki2 | anyone can help me with enabling agpgart in my kernel? |
| 02:37.41 | abrotman | modprobe agpgart ? |
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| 02:38.13 | kspath | liable: I am going to bolt it is nuts around here how people screw around. I should drive a nail into this channel. |
| 02:39.05 | liable | kspath: do it! |
| 02:39.46 | liable | i dont think I am even goin to be able to buy the screw i need here. |
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| 02:40.48 | abrotman | lilo: annoying how? |
| 02:41.02 | herbi | `/topic |
| 02:41.06 | kspath | abrotman: Are you talking to yourself again? |
| 02:41.12 | abrotman | no .. i'm talking to lilo |
| 02:41.18 | abrotman | maybe i should ask somegeek |
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| 02:44.02 | bucky | does Anthony Townes ever log into #debian now that he's DPL ? |
| 02:44.08 | abrotman | i haven't seen him |
| 02:44.11 | abrotman | but we still have Overfiend |
| 02:44.23 | liable | whats his nick? |
| 02:44.26 | abrotman | bucky: i think he goes by ajt on IRC .. but not sure |
| 02:44.27 | gravity | I've never seen aj in here |
| 02:44.28 | koppernet | is there any guide that i can read in dial in server using debin |
| 02:44.38 | koppernet | debian i mean |
| 02:44.48 | bucky | !seen ajt |
| 02:44.48 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'ajt', bucky |
| 02:44.54 | abrotman | !seen aj |
| 02:44.55 | dpkg | aj <aj-irc@azure.humbug.org.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-women, 5d 21h 35m 34s ago, saying: 'cool'. |
| 02:44.58 | abrotman | there you go |
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| 02:45.28 | bucky | #debian-women ? |
| 02:45.35 | abrotman | don't even think about it |
| 02:45.45 | abrotman | it is not a place to get a date |
| 02:45.47 | zinx | :D |
| 02:45.53 | gravity | *very* true |
| 02:46.00 | abrotman | gravity: i didn't mean like that! |
| 02:46.03 | kspath | other team? |
| 02:46.05 | evaded | koppernet: Look on TLDP |
| 02:46.28 | bucky | margret thatcher on a cold day without a shirt, margret thatcher on a cold day without a shirt, margret thatcher on a cold day without a shirt, |
| 02:46.50 | abrotman | apparently the canadian translation loses something |
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| 02:46.55 | kspath | bucky: that is your mantra? |
| 02:46.56 | miki2 | how can i add comand to my kernel parameters before loading? in gub config, at end of vmlinuz kernel image? |
| 02:47.08 | liable | miki2: yes |
| 02:47.10 | bucky | kspath: Austin Power's |
| 02:47.18 | leaveone | has anyone in here had luck using wine to run windows apps.. i am trying to use the lightscribe software on my windows partition since linux doesnt have any such software.. |
| 02:47.18 | abrotman | miki2: there is an edit command for grub's menu system |
| 02:47.39 | abrotman | leaveone: actually .. i think linux does .. but ask #winehq if anyone has gotten it running yet |
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| 02:47.54 | heny | i just rebooted my pc and always get a "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill Init", what does that mean? |
| 02:47.58 | heny | i did not recompile a kernel or try to install a new kernel |
| 02:48.00 | heny | i only did an update-rc |
| 02:48.04 | leaveone | any idea where i could get the linux version.. thatd be easier |
| 02:48.06 | heny | what shall i do now? |
| 02:48.46 | eeyore- | heny: you had to have done something else :-) what exactly did you do? |
| 02:48.50 | abrotman | leaveone: maybe k3b or gnomebaker |
| 02:49.05 | heny | update-rc.d gameserver defaults 99 |
| 02:49.07 | leaveone | oh ok.. alright thanks |
| 02:49.41 | abrotman | leaveone: google might know more |
| 02:50.07 | leaveone | alright yeah ill look there too google.com/linux |
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| 02:50.41 | eeyore- | heny: and 'gameserver' is a script that does, what? |
| 02:50.42 | abrotman | leaveone: google "linux lightscribe" |
| 02:50.45 | debian | Where can I find info on the X startup failure after latest update? |
| 02:50.54 | heny | it's a startscript |
| 02:51.05 | heny | it automatically runs several gameservers |
| 02:51.08 | abrotman | debian: /var/log/ ? |
| 02:51.10 | heny | on startup |
| 02:51.12 | leaveone | doing that now |
| 02:51.28 | eeyore- | heny: anyhow, it's unlikely that adding a script is going to give you that problem. but, you could always reboot and start the machine in runlevel 1, then take out the rc script. |
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| 02:51.40 | heny | how do i do that |
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| 02:51.42 | gravity | debian: On unstable? |
| 02:51.53 | debian | gravity: yes |
| 02:51.58 | gravity | debian: What's the error? |
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| 02:52.05 | abrotman | eeyore-: are you still at work ? |
| 02:52.10 | eeyore- | heny: depends on your bootloader, for example with lilo you could left-shift and append "1" (no quotes) to end of command line? |
| 02:52.14 | eeyore- | abrotman: no, home |
| 02:52.18 | lothsahn | Anyone know why when trying to upgrade, I go to install x11-common (apt-get install x11-common) and it tells me: error processing trying to overwrite /etc/X11/Xsession which is also in package xfree86-common (but the file doesn't exist on my drive)? |
| 02:52.22 | abrotman | eeyore-: i'm telling your wife! |
| 02:52.25 | eeyore- | abrotman: we're leaving for Moab on Thursday! |
| 02:52.28 | heny | i got grub |
| 02:52.37 | gravity | lothsahn: What version of each package? |
| 02:52.37 | debian | gravity: attempting to create $HOME/.serverauth.2090 then cannot connect to Xserver |
| 02:52.40 | abrotman | eeyore-: are you going to leave here there? |
| 02:52.41 | gravity | wtf |
| 02:52.42 | HaNnYa | ??? |
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| 02:52.57 | eeyore- | heny: press 'e' to interrupt normal boot, highlight kernel line, append '1' to end, and press 'b' to boot |
| 02:52.58 | gravity | debian: That's a new one. Can you file a bug report against xserver-xorg? |
| 02:53.04 | abrotman | !tell lothsahn about overwrite |
| 02:53.06 | debian | gravity: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server |
| 02:53.24 | eeyore- | abrotman: haha, no. we go together and we come back together! just hope i don't drive off any cliff |
| 02:53.43 | abrotman | cooties? |
| 02:53.53 | debian | gravity: oooh...I'm left with a text terminal so... |
| 02:53.55 | abrotman | eeyore-: do you get to tie her to the roof? |
| 02:54.01 | Predat | after a power failure my debian stops at "Setting up X server socket directory /tmp/.X11-unix...", it enters runlevel2 but again it freezes starting syslogd or most anything |
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| 02:54.07 | eeyore- | abrotman: can't do that, they sue |
| 02:54.18 | panoramix | kb |
| 02:54.23 | Predat | I can chroot on it and run some of the apps some freeze |
| 02:54.27 | kspath | eeyore-: wife or the car manufacturer? |
| 02:54.28 | abrotman | eeyore-: jeep or your wife? |
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| 02:54.28 | panoramix | dcè nessuno? |
| 02:54.37 | abrotman | !it |
| 02:54.38 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 02:54.52 | eeyore- | you guys are bad... |
| 02:54.56 | eeyore- | anyhow, have to go |
| 02:55.04 | lothsahn | abrotman: thanks a lot. |
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| 02:55.23 | kspath | eeyore-: abrotman is bad. I am worse. |
| 02:55.28 | miki2 | this is hopeless, i need to get agpgart module and via_agp module to work but they wont start... :( |
| 02:55.39 | panoramix | grazie |
| 02:55.48 | kspath | prego? |
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| 02:55.55 | abrotman | i am not! |
| 02:56.08 | panoramix | kspath parli italiano? |
| 02:56.16 | kspath | panoramix: No. |
| 02:56.16 | leaveone | abrotman, yeah it looks like google doesnt have much.. just more forums with people wondering the same thing i am haha |
| 02:56.25 | panoramix | ok |
| 02:57.01 | abrotman | leaveone: i got a decent hit on my first page |
| 02:57.06 | kspath | panoramix: did you try #debian-it ? |
| 02:57.17 | rohkan | Bark! |
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| 02:57.34 | kspath | rohkan: Trunk! |
| 02:57.36 | Predat | any ideaswhy my box freezes when it when loading some applications? |
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| 02:57.51 | rohkan | Im at about 600 people now and cant see chat log. |
| 02:57.55 | kspath | Predat: Freezes? |
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| 02:58.00 | Baloo | rohkan: Trillian is slooooow. |
| 02:58.05 | rohkan | 700 |
| 02:58.07 | kspath | Predat: never recovers? |
| 02:58.08 | evaded | Predat: Look to the log files?? |
| 02:58.27 | kspath | Predat: All your RAM ok and properly seated? |
| 02:58.35 | leaveone | abrotman, heh if i only spoke german |
| 02:58.36 | rohkan | 759... |
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| 02:58.49 | Predat | it freezes when trying to setup socket directory for X11, and when trying to run syslogd or mysqld for example, this right after powerfailure |
| 02:59.04 | heny | hey can someone help me? |
| 02:59.06 | Predat | I can read the disk |
| 02:59.16 | evaded | !tell heny about ask |
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| 02:59.17 | Predat | it fails to execute some applications |
| 02:59.22 | kkko | hi all |
| 02:59.25 | heny | i did not recompile a kernel or try to install a new kernel |
| 02:59.28 | heny | i just rebooted my pc and always get a "Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill Init", what does that mean? |
| 02:59.32 | heny | what shall i do now? |
| 02:59.34 | abrotman | leaveone: could have sworn it was in english .. and google will try to translate |
| 02:59.35 | heny | i got grub |
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| 02:59.45 | kspath | Predat: data corruption? a library got it? |
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| 03:00.15 | Predat | maybe, anything that I can like in single mode to recover with aptidute? |
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| 03:00.35 | kkko | How can aptitude forget what I told it to upgrade? |
| 03:00.42 | lothsahn | I used to start x by running gdm at my console, but now that's not working. I don't see "gdm" in /usr/bin... should it be there, or am I just a noob? |
| 03:00.45 | leaveone | abrotman, yeah there are some english pages too but i found a german forum but i cant read it haha.. im not seeing that its supported though.. k3b doesnt have it |
| 03:01.00 | evaded | Predat: Try to reinstall the apps you see that hangs |
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| 03:01.10 | abrotman | leaveone: babelfish ? |
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| 03:01.17 | debian | gravity: I fixed it. I've to 'apt-get install xserver-xorg' before startx could run normal again |
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| 03:01.23 | gravity | hrm |
| 03:01.26 | kspath | abrotman: babelfish is WEAK translation |
| 03:01.30 | miki2 | anyone here got asus mobo with agp vid card? |
| 03:01.30 | gravity | debian: Yeah, that bug was reported before... |
| 03:01.36 | gravity | debian: Can I ask you about what happened exactly? |
| 03:01.45 | debian | gravity: oh lucky me, thanks for your help |
| 03:01.47 | gravity | debian: I'd like to fix that bug if I can pinpoint what happened |
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| 03:02.01 | leaveone | mike, i have an asus board.. about 3 years old though |
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| 03:02.09 | kspath | !ops |
| 03:02.09 | dpkg | Please invoke '!ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
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| 03:02.20 | abrotman | gravity: two IPs |
| 03:02.22 | evaded | What a fuck |
| 03:02.23 | gravity | ffs |
| 03:02.31 | abrotman | erm .. four |
| 03:02.33 | evaded | 4 |
| 03:02.35 | gravity | Ok, back to work |
| 03:02.35 | kkko | How can aptitude forget what I told it to upgrade? |
| 03:02.37 | debian | gravity: just 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' as usual |
| 03:02.38 | kspath | see the message from lilo not long ago |
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| 03:02.42 | lemming8761 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:02.42 | lemming4390 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:02.42 | leaveone | miki2, , i have an asus board.. about 3 years old though |
| 03:02.43 | abrotman | gravity: no workie! |
| 03:02.43 | lemming4390 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:02.43 | lemming8761 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
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| 03:02.55 | debian | what is fazlamesai anyway? |
| 03:02.56 | abrotman | gravity: work on! :) |
| 03:03.05 | gravity | debian: What did you update from? |
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| 03:03.09 | kspath | Some useless sack of crap with time on their hands is trying to interrupt anything they can. |
| 03:03.11 | smurf4522 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:03.11 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 03:03.12 | smurf4522 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:03.12 | Baloo | !ops flood |
| 03:03.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: flood |
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| 03:03.26 | bbrazil | gravity: it's all the same IP addresses |
| 03:03.27 | evaded | It's like what lilo say i guess?? |
| 03:03.33 | abrotman | evaded: yes |
| 03:03.43 | jugglinx | gravity, the same happens a in #debian-es the only way we can solve it was call to the freenode staff |
| 03:03.49 | evaded | bastards! nothings others to do :-/ |
| 03:03.58 | abrotman | jugglinx: no ops ? |
| 03:03.59 | debian | gravity: I didn't change distro. I used to use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade |
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| 03:04.22 | miki2 | leaveone: u had any problems with it under linux? |
| 03:04.31 | NoRC` | Is there a app that i can use to boot my winxp partition under linux? |
| 03:04.37 | jugglinx | we have ops... but it keeps joining with differents ip all the nite |
| 03:04.39 | abrotman | grub? lilo? |
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| 03:04.47 | bbrazil | gravity: +bb *!*@c-67-161-116-127.hsd1.wa.comcast.net *!*@c-67-183-37-54.hsd1.wa.comcast.net |
| 03:04.52 | NoRC` | nah i mean like while im in debian itself... |
| 03:04.57 | debian | gravity: anything else I could help providing you? |
| 03:04.57 | miki2 | leaveone: im just reading how good asus i with it linux drivers and slowly im getting answers to all my problems.... sience asus sux |
| 03:05.02 | NoRC` | I thought there was a pp ages ago like vmware or something |
| 03:05.03 | leaveone | miki2, nope.. i have an nvidia agp graphics card too.. everything works fine |
| 03:05.06 | kspath | jugglinx: it is either a set of owned machines or a set of jerks. |
| 03:05.23 | gravity | debian: From what version to what version? |
| 03:05.27 | abrotman | kspath: all from washington ? |
| 03:05.35 | miki2 | leaveone: were u forced to install any extra drivers for ur mobo, or kernel detected it by itself? |
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| 03:05.43 | debian | gravity: sid to sid. I used to use dist-upgrade for daily update |
| 03:05.56 | gravity | debian: Did you see why xserver-xorg would have gotten removed? |
| 03:06.09 | gravity | I can imagine it would be due to x11-common |
| 03:06.13 | gravity | But I don't know that |
| 03:06.15 | leaveone | miki2, the kernel detected everything |
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| 03:06.20 | debian | gravity: yeah, I found it by chance. I don't see when and how it was removed. really |
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| 03:06.36 | debian | gravity: yeah, there were problems with x11-common update |
| 03:06.45 | gravity | debian: What were they exactly? Do you remember? |
| 03:06.46 | debian | gravity: I've to remove /usr/X11R6/bin |
| 03:06.50 | gravity | Urgh |
| 03:06.55 | gravity | You shouldn't remove it by hand |
| 03:06.56 | debian | gravity: otherwise x11-common failed |
| 03:07.01 | gravity | You shouldn't do that |
| 03:07.02 | leaveone | miki2, i have an asus a7v xxx.. i forget what the x numbers are really there |
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| 03:07.13 | gravity | You have to remove the extra conflicting packages and whatever stuff is in there, but leave the dir there |
| 03:07.15 | debian | gravity: I must admit I couldn't help |
| 03:07.45 | evaded | leaveone: 123 i guess, version number?? |
| 03:07.45 | kspath | abrotman: I used to see thousands of machines from various regions used as spamnets. each machine only send 1-10 spams in an hour but 10,000 machines |
| 03:08.00 | debian | gravity: I learn that lesson :) |
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| 03:08.27 | debian | gravity: I was back from a long vacation so my case can be isolated |
| 03:08.29 | gravity | I wonder if that wouldbe the cause |
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| 03:08.37 | kspath | abrotman: There were dozens of such organized attacked from various "groups" irc is just not smtp same concepts. |
| 03:08.40 | debian | gravity: I guess so |
| 03:08.50 | gravity | If it is I need to work around it |
| 03:08.55 | abrotman | kspath: irc isn't smtp ? |
| 03:09.10 | gravity | Although now that I think about it, that's probably not the cause... |
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| 03:09.19 | kspath | abrotman: Instead of email spam or smtp related attacks irc attacks. |
| 03:09.22 | miki2 | leaveone: i got asus p5v800-mx for perntium 4 and it really sucks... i cant find any asus linux driver |
| 03:09.53 | debian | gravity: right, just a crash casued by smartass :P |
| 03:09.53 | leaveone | miki2, the only drivers i have to install are the nvidia drivers |
| 03:09.53 | gravity | debian: No, you're not the first to report this |
| 03:09.53 | miki2 | leaveone: im just readin article that asus is very anti-linux company |
| 03:09.53 | kspath | abrotman: different protocols same basic concepts and same basic tools used for their attacks/abuse |
| 03:09.53 | gravity | It's a real bug |
| 03:10.03 | gravity | One that I need to track down and fix |
| 03:10.03 | abrotman | kspath: no wonder my email never goes anywhere! |
| 03:10.05 | miki2 | leaveone: wich kernel are u using? |
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| 03:10.12 | debian | gravity: oh really....I wish I had enabled to log, but it was not |
| 03:10.16 | leaveone | miki, maybe their new boards are.. not sure |
| 03:10.16 | kspath | abrotman: ? |
| 03:10.27 | kspath | abrotman: no one will accept your spam? |
| 03:10.33 | zrin | to test SW RAID, I've disconnected one of the drives. After boot / shutdown I connected it again and now mdadm --detail shows State: clean, degraded; is the array getting repaired / rebuilt automatically? |
| 03:10.34 | leaveone | miki2, i am running the latest 2.6.8 i think |
| 03:10.35 | liable | gravity: maybe adding an error that a dist-upgrade should be used when that dir isnt empty? (for x11-common) |
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| 03:10.46 | debian | gravity: Just in case you don't realize you still have a '@' above your head. |
| 03:10.57 | abrotman | kspath: HELO |
| 03:11.01 | gravity | No I don't |
| 03:11.06 | miki2 | leaveone: ic, want to see link to that article? |
| 03:11.07 | kspath | abrotman: EHLO |
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| 03:11.10 | gravity | Anyway... yeah... that really could cause the problem |
| 03:11.11 | billybob | how the hell do i connect to a windows shared hdd? |
| 03:11.19 | gravity | debian: Wait, xserver-xorg wasn't installed at all, right? |
| 03:11.19 | bureado | smbmount |
| 03:11.20 | leaveone | miki2, 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 03:11.24 | abrotman | kspath: we should stop now :) |
| 03:11.29 | leaveone | miki2, yeah sure |
| 03:11.39 | gravity | debian: It actually got mysteriously removed? |
| 03:11.45 | debian | gravity: honestly I didn't notice that. how coudl I check the installation day? |
| 03:11.48 | evaded | !tell billybob about samba |
| 03:11.56 | bureado | billybob: aptitude install smbfs ; smbmount //<host>/<share> <mountpoint> -o username=<whatever> |
| 03:12.00 | gravity | hrm |
| 03:12.05 | minerale | Greetings, what tool may I use to configure the resolution on my monitor? |
| 03:12.17 | miki2 | leaveone: http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html |
| 03:12.19 | liable | debian: dpkg log? |
| 03:12.33 | bureado | minerale: xvidtune |
| 03:12.41 | bureado | minerale: And vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:12.47 | andre_ | did you guys ever have problemes with xserver with ati video cards |
| 03:12.51 | billybob | bureado: thanks |
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| 03:13.01 | bureado | billybob: Always welcome. |
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| 03:13.04 | wow235 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.04 | wow1042 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.04 | wow6359 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.04 | wow5328 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.04 | wow4087 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.05 | wow235 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.05 | bureado | Argh |
| 03:13.07 | wow4087 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.07 | wow6359 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.07 | wow5328 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.07 | wow235 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.07 | wow1042 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.11 | wow4087 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.11 | wow6359 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.11 | wow5328 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.11 | wow235 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.11 | wow1042 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:13.15 | *** mode/#debian [+o gravity] by ChanServ |
| 03:13.16 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@c-24-11-229-134.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] by gravity |
| 03:13.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o gravity] by gravity |
| 03:13.18 | kspath | wow they are useless |
| 03:13.24 | bureado | Sponsored by Fazlamesai |
| 03:13.27 | abrotman | so much for the washington connection |
| 03:13.28 | kspath | abrotman: Michigan |
| 03:13.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o gravity] by ChanServ |
| 03:13.33 | abrotman | kspath: i see |
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| 03:13.58 | kspath | abrotman: You see a few IPs from wa and jump to conclusions? |
| 03:14.05 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*hsd1.mi.*@*] by gravity |
| 03:14.16 | *** mode/#debian [-o gravity] by gravity |
| 03:14.17 | evaded | minerale: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 03:14.32 | bbrazil | gravity: I don't think that's the mask you want |
| 03:14.32 | abrotman | kspath: you never know~! |
| 03:14.38 | kspath | abrotman: If it is a large group of compromised machines they might control a few hundred or thousands in wa in comcast alone. |
| 03:14.44 | gravity | bbrazil: Yeah, it's a bit harsh but it's called for |
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| 03:14.48 | Supaplex | n=wow |
| 03:14.53 | bbrazil | gravity: %*!*@*hsd1.mi.* maybe? |
| 03:15.02 | evaded | he there was now 5 |
| 03:15.05 | abrotman | that's not enough .. only two guys from there |
| 03:15.07 | minerale | bureado: there was another tool for configuring, something like deb-con... ncurses app that would allow me to select resolutions |
| 03:15.09 | evaded | and not 4 |
| 03:15.17 | gravity | bbrazil: No, that's even worse |
| 03:15.19 | fenrir | OK, I couldn't find my old kernel versions source using apt-cache search so in order to get sources to compile my wireless card I had to move up to 2.6.15 so I got the wireless card working but everytime I exit something it says glibc detected invalid pointer core dumped and when I boot back into 2.16.12 it does the same, and I can't change any wlan0 options |
| 03:15.21 | gravity | And pointless |
| 03:15.36 | bureado | minerale: Maybe evaded suggestion, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
| 03:15.38 | minerale | bureado, evaded: ah, found |
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| 03:16.19 | bbrazil | gravity: the mask you set was %*!*hsd1.mi.*@* - which is anyone with a ident containing hsd1.mi |
| 03:16.24 | kspath | abrotman: If they really scripted this they could get irc nets to block almost all comcast and many DSL providers IP blocks that allow M$ machines as customer OS. |
| 03:16.42 | abrotman | wouldn't bother me :) |
| 03:16.48 | gravity | hrm, that's not what I typed... |
| 03:17.03 | leaveone | miki2, thats a ridiculous article.. i had no idea that asus was anti-linux.. ive ran several different distros on here with no problem at all |
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| 03:17.16 | kspath | abrotman: If you add clueless linux and MacOSX people that get compromised often enough than it would be a little tiny bit worse. |
| 03:17.23 | evaded | Someone that play in an cybercafe? |
| 03:17.25 | dobbs | mozillaquest is a trollfest |
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| 03:17.27 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*hsd1.mi.*@*] by gravity |
| 03:17.35 | dobbs | not saying linux doesnt suck, but so does mozillaquest. |
| 03:17.40 | evaded | To kill these bastards |
| 03:17.51 | abrotman | kspath: you lie! |
| 03:17.55 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@*hsd1.mi.comcast.net] by gravity |
| 03:18.00 | gravity | That's better |
| 03:18.05 | *** mode/#debian [-o gravity] by gravity |
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| 03:18.19 | kspath | nite |
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| 03:18.27 | kspath | err night |
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| 03:18.48 | gravity | bbrazil: Thanks for catching that |
| 03:19.03 | evaded | Is abrotman run to an cybercafe? :-) |
| 03:19.05 | miki2 | leaveone: my asus mobo gives me problems all the time, first USB now AGP... |
| 03:19.06 | bbrazil | gravity: no problem. you realise only one the the last lot matches that mask? |
| 03:19.11 | bbrazil | gravity: *of the |
| 03:19.34 | leaveone | miki2, does your board work fine in windows? |
| 03:19.39 | zrin | will md automatically rebuild SW raids? |
| 03:19.41 | gravity | Oh, the middle part is different |
| 03:19.48 | gravity | I so have better things to be doing than this shit |
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| 03:20.09 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@*hsd1.*.comcast.net] by gravity |
| 03:20.09 | elPepo | hi friends... |
| 03:20.10 | evaded | gravity: The bastards not it's looks |
| 03:20.14 | gravity | How's that? |
| 03:20.17 | bbrazil | zrin: you probably have to tell it that you've put in a new disk |
| 03:20.37 | evaded | gravity: These bastards have nothings others to do :-/ |
| 03:20.39 | zrin | bbrazil: even if it it the same one connected again? |
| 03:20.57 | elPepo | sometime I read that Google was developed with GPL software, Do you know that news? Where do I can read about that now? |
| 03:21.08 | bbrazil | gravity: 2/5, still leaves 2xcharter and cablespeed. My opinion would be that it's pointless |
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| 03:21.14 | lemming9812 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.14 | lemming249 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.14 | lemming3804 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.15 | lemming9812 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.15 | lemming249 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.15 | lemming3804 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.16 | bbrazil | zrin: yes |
| 03:21.16 | lemming9812 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.17 | lemming249 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.17 | lemming3804 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.18 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@66-168-66-105.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] by gravity |
| 03:21.20 | lemming249 | #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai |
| 03:21.22 | zasr | hmm |
| 03:21.23 | evaded | fuck fuck fuck |
| 03:21.23 | miki2 | leaveone: yeah, no problems in windows |
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| 03:21.30 | gravity | God fucking damn it |
| 03:21.30 | evaded | ppppfff |
| 03:21.35 | kspath | evaded: some VERY ignorant people think it is funny to try to mess with people/things. |
| 03:21.58 | bureado | Use the *!*@* mask! |
| 03:22.02 | evaded | kspath: I not understand these fucking bastards! |
| 03:22.04 | kspath | evaded: It is easier to break things than to fix/build things or improve things. |
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| 03:22.10 | leaveone | miki2, hmmm.. weird.. i dunno then |
| 03:22.21 | MrNaz | man i cant believe how little some people must have to do |
| 03:22.23 | liable | what about what lilo suggested? |
| 03:22.26 | wireddd | bureado, yeah that would stop it for sure! |
| 03:22.26 | evaded | kspath: Yes, but it's not nice and _not_ helpfull |
| 03:22.44 | gravity | liable: People tend to get pissed when we do that |
| 03:22.48 | kspath | evaded: So the lusers sometimes learn just enough to break things but likely not enough to do much of anything useful. |
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| 03:22.53 | nalioth | gravity: channel mode +R |
| 03:23.03 | liable | gravity: yeah, i spose in this channel it could be a pita. |
| 03:23.07 | *** part/#debian _root (n=root@dialup-4.229.48.127.Dial1.Detroit1.Level3.net) |
| 03:23.08 | encoded | that wont hep |
| 03:23.24 | encoded | *HELP |
| 03:23.25 | miki2 | leaveone: someone told me that i got most horrible hardware combination for linux: via asus mobo, ati vid card and usb speedtouch modem |
| 03:23.28 | evaded | kspath: Yah, it's because these guys are dumb and loose his time. |
| 03:23.29 | bureado | Oh, excuse my inner voice :( |
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| 03:23.30 | gravity | Yeah, I guess now's a good time |
| 03:23.34 | *** mode/#debian [+R] by gravity |
| 03:23.43 | bureado | What's +R? |
| 03:23.44 | kspath | bureado: You are assuming it is "their" channel. |
| 03:23.50 | evaded | kspath: It's easy to follow an manual how to fuck |
| 03:23.51 | encoded | that isnt helpfull |
| 03:23.56 | encoded | +r does nothing |
| 03:24.33 | evaded | kspath: I guess, it |
| 03:24.40 | evaded | M$ fucking users |
| 03:24.48 | *** part/#debian encoded (n=samwise@reactos/tester/encoded) |
| 03:25.00 | kspath | bureado: It could just as easily be some gaping anal cavity trying to get people to attack that channel. |
| 03:25.16 | Supaplex | well if they can't spread hate and discontent *yawn* kids |
| 03:25.43 | bureado | kspath: Indeed. |
| 03:25.55 | liable | kspath: you have a way with words. |
| 03:26.08 | minerale | is this channel invisible? Maybe they are just /listing and finding the high traffic channels |
| 03:26.21 | kspath | liable: Words had their way with me for so long I thought why not return the favour. |
| 03:26.39 | bbrazil | minerale: #debian is the biggest channel on the server. That won't help |
| 03:27.07 | wireddd | does +R mean that only registered nicks can talk? |
| 03:27.09 | liable | is it? |
| 03:27.14 | bureado | Maybe we should split in groups of 7 through several channels on several networks and have chain users in two channels forwarding the messages. |
| 03:27.15 | gravity | wireddd: Yeah |
| 03:27.17 | gravity | Or join... |
| 03:27.20 | bureado | That's so 1960. |
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| 03:27.55 | wireddd | gravity, then that should take care of it, as the bots aren't registering their nicks |
| 03:28.09 | *** part/#debian biquillo (n=biquillo@62-14-82-144.inversas.jazztel.es) |
| 03:28.30 | gravity | yet |
| 03:28.45 | evaded | lilo has say the set +r(or +R) |
| 03:29.00 | evaded | s/the/to |
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| 03:29.49 | evaded | How can we get the status of this channel? |
| 03:29.54 | wireddd | well its is probably some scriptkiddie that is using some snippet he got off of some site that he doesn't really understand |
| 03:30.01 | evaded | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:30.14 | wireddd | evaded, it has already been set |
| 03:30.17 | hendry | what's the command in X to figure out if I have GL acceleration? |
| 03:30.36 | evaded | wireddd: Yep, i have just see it. So that not help :-( |
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| 03:30.50 | gravity | hendry: glxinfo | grep Direct |
| 03:30.57 | kspath | evaded: So that will not help. |
| 03:31.18 | evaded | kspath: I love you ;-) |
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| 03:31.36 | wireddd | evaded, it was just set, so it is probably working |
| 03:31.46 | evaded | wireddd: ok |
| 03:32.25 | Meztli-xictli | I' have one problem |
| 03:32.26 | kspath | some people join the channel to get help with debian but do not know irc |
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| 03:32.40 | Meztli-xictli | my apache no run in mod_mono |
| 03:32.40 | evaded | Saying that that bastard will see that gravity are quick ;-) |
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| 03:33.04 | nnod | has anyone had the problem upgrading samba on experimental? bug # 348079 (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=348079) and is there a workaround? |
| 03:33.15 | yxa | how can I send ATS0=0 to /dev/ttyS1? echoing doesn't seem to work |
| 03:33.58 | hendry | gravity: i just performed an X7 upgrade and direct rendering isn't working. I guess that's to be expected? |
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| 03:34.07 | evaded | s/guest/guess |
| 03:34.12 | minerale | Hi, quick question I have a 4 year old video card from nvidia, at 1024x768 I can have a refresh rate of 100 on windows, I looked up the vertical and horizontal refresh rates, but it's only letting me have the refresh up to 85, is it because the "driver does not exist" or to I just need to keep tweaking the system? |
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| 03:34.43 | gravity | hendry: Not really... |
| 03:34.53 | gravity | hendry: Although it did break for some people |
| 03:34.57 | yipe | how's everyone doin'? |
| 03:35.08 | evaded | minerale: I can give you that trick http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/calc.html |
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| 03:35.55 | wy | hello, can anyone hear me now? |
| 03:36.01 | liable | yes |
| 03:36.06 | Supaplex | !quiet |
| 03:36.23 | wy | I just registered |
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| 03:36.37 | hendry | gravity: is there a special package for GL perhaps? |
| 03:36.55 | wireddd | gravity, +r keeps unregistered users from joining, +R just prevents them from saying anything in the channel |
| 03:37.23 | rumpl | hm... |
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| 03:37.27 | gravity | hendry: They should be installed already... libgl1-mesa-dri should be installed |
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| 03:37.49 | hendry | gravity: yes it is... but no direct rendering. hmph |
| 03:37.59 | wy | I have a problem with my proftpd. The clients connect to it too slowly |
| 03:38.09 | gravity | hendry: What video chip? |
| 03:38.55 | kspath | evaded: guessed is past of guess guest is someone you welcome to your home or elsewhere. |
| 03:39.01 | hendry | gravity: ati |
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| 03:39.08 | jetscreamer | okie so somebody tell me how to fix xorg so q4 will work , it can't find glx |
| 03:39.11 | gravity | hendry: And it was working before? What kind of ati? |
| 03:39.21 | jetscreamer | work once again |
| 03:39.23 | gravity | hendry: Oh, are you using the fglrx drivers? |
| 03:39.25 | evaded | kspath: hhhmm, guessed |
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| 03:39.28 | jetscreamer | xorg7 |
| 03:39.31 | kspath | jetscreamer: qt4? |
| 03:39.36 | jetscreamer | quake4 |
| 03:39.48 | gravity | jetscreamer: What driver? |
| 03:39.49 | yipe | so um, I'm using ubuntu right now, I'm about two weeks into my first linux experience |
| 03:40.01 | yipe | would it be difficult for me to switch to debian? |
| 03:40.01 | jetscreamer | gravity: the binary |
| 03:40.10 | iter | yipe: same same |
| 03:40.12 | kspath | yipe: wipe your drive and install debian done |
| 03:40.26 | jetscreamer | !debtakeover |
| 03:40.26 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 03:40.34 | gravity | jetscreamer: Ok, then I don't care |
| 03:40.35 | iter | haha |
| 03:40.35 | kspath | yipe the netinstall will take care of it just fine. |
| 03:40.41 | yipe | cool:) |
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| 03:40.46 | jetscreamer | gravity: somehow i knew that was coming :( |
| 03:40.54 | hendry | gravity: sorry, I lie. It looks likes like an Intel (using Thinkpad X40) |
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| 03:41.11 | kspath | jetscreamer: slack? |
| 03:41.14 | gravity | hendry: Ok, yeah. That's been reported. I don't know what the bug is |
| 03:41.20 | gravity | I have an idea though |
| 03:41.25 | gravity | We may need the new mesa |
| 03:41.30 | yipe | I'm sure it's all old-news to you guys, but after windows 2000, linux has me psyched about my computer again! |
| 03:41.40 | hendry | gravity: that's being packaged ? |
| 03:41.45 | gravity | hendry: At some point |
| 03:41.54 | gravity | I have packages actually, I just never put them in experimental |
| 03:41.55 | iter | yipe: wait until your coworkers send you .ppt files |
| 03:41.56 | hendry | gravity: thanks for your help |
| 03:42.01 | gravity | No problem |
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| 03:42.10 | gravity | We'll narrow it down. If it's not a new mesa then we'll figure it out |
| 03:42.11 | jetscreamer | kspath: ? quake4, nvidia binary, xorg7 sid, used to work, ... hey i have the debian version somewhere... |
| 03:42.12 | yipe | what is .ppt? |
| 03:42.17 | iter | powerpoint |
| 03:42.30 | hendry | gravity: oh it's you David! What are you doing here? ;) |
| 03:42.32 | yipe | will that be a problem? |
| 03:42.33 | kspath | yipe: linux gives you control over your computer. The draw back is that linux gives you control over your computer. |
| 03:42.38 | gravity | hendry: I'm always here :-) |
| 03:42.40 | yipe | haha, I like that |
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| 03:42.56 | wy | I have a problem with my proftpd. The clients connect to it too slowly. Anyone has idea about that? |
| 03:42.58 | hendry | gravity: props to the packaging. the X7 transition when quite smoothly with my dist-upgrade today |
| 03:43.05 | gravity | hendry: Wow, thanks! |
| 03:43.14 | gravity | hendry: It's great to hear that, after all the flack I've gotten |
| 03:43.16 | Supaplex | it's like a racecar without seatbelts. only with more power and less seatbelts. |
| 03:43.19 | gravity | I guess it's gone better for users than developers |
| 03:43.36 | kspath | jetscreamer: I was referring to debtakeover not mentioning that almost dead distro called slack but now I see it did say crackware. |
| 03:43.46 | jetscreamer | o |
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| 03:43.54 | hendry | gravity: are you using Daniel's Ubuntu stuff for this? I'm a bit confused how you guys work |
| 03:44.06 | hendry | gravity: becuase I think the new style packaging was first in Ubuntu dapper |
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| 03:44.07 | gravity | hendry: Yeah, I took from his stuff almost verbatim. I repackaged some of it |
| 03:44.26 | menko | Hello people, I have a question. If I have the numlock on in X, and then switch to a tty console, the numlock is turned off. So when I come back to X, the numlock light is off, but still functioning. Any way to fix this? |
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| 03:44.27 | gravity | hendry: Yeah, it was there first and Daniel helped develop two modular trees prior to this one, so he knew it as well as anyone |
| 03:44.28 | hendry | gravity: so Debian is in sync X wise with Ubuntu nowadays? |
| 03:44.47 | gravity | hendry: Not exactly. I don't know where we stand relative to each other, but I'm going to find out once all this is sorted and dapper is out on their end |
| 03:45.25 | gravity | hendry: I still have a ton of RC bugs to squash before I can worry about unifying with Ubuntu again |
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| 03:45.26 | hendry | gravity: i was running some tests migrating between unstable and dapper and X was the key problem in these side migrations |
| 03:45.48 | gravity | hendry: I've tried to keep cross-distro compatability to a maximum in the Debian packages because I know people want to do that |
| 03:45.54 | hendry | gravity: i don't see RC bugs here : http://debian.dabase.com/ |
| 03:46.06 | hendry | gravity: lunch time! being dragged out by collegues |
| 03:46.08 | gravity | hendry: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=maint&data=debian-x%40lists.debian.org&archive=no |
| 03:46.14 | gravity | hendry: Heh, ok. Have fun! |
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| 03:47.28 | menko | Another one. When I run halt from X (I'm using fluxbox), it goes to the tty after a few seconds, doesn't tell me anything about what it's doing and then scrolls a few lines as it shuts off. But if I exit fluxbox and shutdown with gdm, it tells me what it's doing. So how can I get halt to function like shutting down with gdm? |
| 03:47.57 | jetscreamer | menko: it's telling you on another tty iirc |
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| 03:48.31 | menko | jetscreamer: well, I haven't ever checked that, is there a way to force it to use tty1? |
| 03:49.00 | Supaplex | menko: depends on /dev/console |
| 03:49.08 | jetscreamer | menko: i don't know it but i'm sure there is (or the others wouldn't work 'properly') |
| 03:49.18 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 03:49.33 | menko | Supaplex: what is /dev/console? |
| 03:49.46 | jetscreamer | gravity: ok don't tell me how to fix it but tell me what breaks it? |
| 03:49.56 | menko | I was thinking it'd be a symbolic link but doesn't seem to be |
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| 03:50.07 | Supaplex | you can replace it with a symlink |
| 03:50.07 | liable | fuck |
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| 03:50.16 | Supaplex | !ops flooders on sight |
| 03:50.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: flooders on sight |
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| 03:50.42 | menko | Supaplex: so I should symlink tty1 to console? |
| 03:50.55 | liable | suckers! |
| 03:51.15 | gravity | WOO |
| 03:51.18 | evaded | got another network?? |
| 03:51.35 | gravity | jetscreamer: To be honest, I really don't know... I think fglrx installs the module to the wrong location |
| 03:51.41 | gravity | jetscreamer: That's my best guess though |
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| 03:51.54 | evaded | Dangerous, now 8 |
| 03:51.55 | Guerin | gravity: hey, the X transition worked perfectly for me |
| 03:51.55 | YouCeyE | The package amarok needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. i am getting this error |
| 03:51.56 | Supaplex | menko: try it =) it worked for me years ago. I ended up reverting for some reason. YMMV |
| 03:52.01 | gravity | Guerin: That's great to hear |
| 03:52.03 | gravity | It really is |
| 03:52.31 | zasr | anyone have a suggestion for a bittorrent client for debian? |
| 03:52.35 | Supaplex | "this" error. how vague... |
| 03:52.37 | menko | Supaplex: k I guess I'll see if it works next time I halt/reboot thanks |
| 03:52.44 | Guerin | gravity: i was upgrading from whatever was current in about mid-january, too |
| 03:52.50 | Guerin | worked first time |
| 03:52.52 | swim | hi folks, i just installed etch using latest iso 1, becaussse I was going to use iso's 1,2,3. But it went ahead and did a net install instead... anywho when I try to start gdm i get problems, there wass no xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ so I made one... and yet it still errors out saying: |
| 03:53.00 | Guerin | zasr: rtorrent |
| 03:53.09 | Dewi | where would I find the documentation for mktime() and other posix functions on the system? man posix has only a summary and refers me to "the man page" |
| 03:53.10 | zasr | Guerin: apt-get install rtorrent? |
| 03:53.23 | Supaplex | !tell zasr -about search |
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| 03:53.33 | Guerin | zasr: on etch or sid, yeah |
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| 03:53.44 | swim | GDM:Xserver not found: /usr/x11r6/bin/x :0 -dpi 96 -audit 0 -auth |
| 03:53.51 | jetscreamer | gravity: thanks. (it's nvidia btw and i did tell it --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/ ) and btw yes the transistion did go smoothly (cept that, but that doesn't count) |
| 03:54.06 | swim | /var/lib/gdm/0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 |
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| 03:54.16 | bbrazil | Dewi: manpages-dev iirc |
| 03:54.19 | swim | Pleasse install the xserver or correct gdm config |
| 03:54.33 | unix_infidel | swim: sure you installed X? |
| 03:55.17 | swim | unix_infidel: I did the install where you select to install a desktop environment |
| 03:55.24 | Supaplex | gravity: admin@localhost is my guess. :) |
| 03:55.42 | swim | the last time i installed debian etch (this is etch btw) it installed everything no issues... |
| 03:55.49 | kspath | Guerin: Did you hang out in #unix back in 1996 and 1997? |
| 03:55.57 | unix_infidel | swim: i can install fluxbox in debian without getting a fully functional X env. |
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| 03:56.17 | unix_infidel | sure you PROPERLY installed X mate/ |
| 03:56.18 | jetscreamer | i think he means tasksel or whatever |
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| 03:56.30 | swim | unix_infidel: yes but if the installer installs a desktop enviro it installs x |
| 03:56.32 | gravity | Supaplex: I'd like to make sure that's true... if not I want to make sure I fix the bug |
| 03:56.33 | zasr | ok, i just did apt-get install bittornado, and apt-get install bittorrent,a dn niether of them showed up in my menus, where are they?? |
| 03:56.39 | Supaplex | swim: you forget all too soon that testing can change when ever it wants. it's not labled stable for a reason... :) |
| 03:56.47 | Guerin | kspath: no way, I barely knew what a mouse was back then |
| 03:56.48 | jetscreamer | zasr: btdownloadgui |
| 03:56.58 | jetscreamer | or -gui i forget |
| 03:57.05 | unix_infidel | Supaplex: i'm PRETTY sure this isnt a "stability" issue. |
| 03:57.09 | kspath | Guerin: I my is all messed up. |
| 03:57.14 | mustard5 | is there a specific channel that debian from scratch people would hang out in? |
| 03:57.18 | evaded | zasr: update-menus?? |
| 03:57.26 | kspath | Guerin: My memory is all messed up. |
| 03:57.30 | unix_infidel | adios. |
| 03:57.46 | jetscreamer | debian menu apps net though |
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| 03:58.04 | unix_infidel | Supaplex: hes running etch not sid. |
| 03:58.05 | swim | im using etc btw not unstable |
| 03:58.07 | swim | testing |
| 03:58.11 | swim | or trying to |
| 03:58.14 | unix_infidel | and I am too. and my system is working PERFECTLY without any issues. |
| 03:58.19 | kspath | mustard5: LFS has a #lfs and there is the official LFS channels on a different irc server see LFS website |
| 03:58.20 | Guerin | kspath: too much tea |
| 03:58.36 | unix_infidel | swim: make sure you have all the right packages installed, i remember having the same errors. |
| 03:58.37 | Supaplex | yea, pardon and scratch that last thought. |
| 03:58.37 | kspath | Guerin: I drink tea. I do not smoke it. |
| 03:58.40 | unix_infidel | TV and snack time :) |
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| 03:58.48 | kspath | Guerin: I am just old and tired. |
| 03:58.51 | mustard5 | kspath, I take it they would discuss debian from scratch issues too? I'll check it out anyway :D |
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| 03:59.34 | vahvarh | Anyone knows when XORG7/amd64 will be repaired? |
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| 03:59.54 | swim | and startx gives me: /usr/bin/X11/X there is no such file or dir |
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| 04:00.13 | jetscreamer | try apt-get install x-window-system is my idea |
| 04:00.14 | evaded | swim: Reinstall the x |
| 04:00.19 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 04:00.34 | trueno | Hi! how can I "mv" dirs recursively, using rsync? Which --delete option should I use? |
| 04:00.35 | liable | or isnt it 'xorg'?? |
| 04:00.39 | gravity | It is xorg now |
| 04:00.54 | swim | evaded: how exaactly would I do that? |
| 04:01.00 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 04:01.00 | gravity | x-window-system(-core) are just transitional packages depending on xorg |
| 04:01.09 | evaded | swim: like jetscreamer have told you |
| 04:01.11 | kspath | mustard5: Are you referring to this: http://people.debian.org/~jgoerzen/dfs/html/ ? |
| 04:01.14 | swim | oh ok |
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| 04:01.59 | swim | interesting I guess the etch installer decided not to install x this time. |
| 04:02.05 | kspath | Why do people ask about things that are easy to find via google in 5 seconds? |
| 04:02.24 | swim | blah |
| 04:02.25 | mustard5 | kspath, yep..thats the place :) |
| 04:02.29 | evaded | kspath: Because here he get it in 4 seconds :-/ |
| 04:02.35 | mustard5 | kspath, I just installed it yesterday :) |
| 04:02.45 | evaded | kspath: ;-) |
| 04:03.12 | evaded | kspath: People are quick here, very quick :-) |
| 04:03.19 | kspath | mustard5: What is the point of DFS? Do a base install with netinstall and only install whatever few other things? |
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| 04:05.21 | mustard5 | kspath, it seemed an easy to way to learn about how debian works, and to also have a lot of control over how I set the system up :) |
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| 04:06.18 | mustard5 | kspath, it was also a smaller download than a lot of the methods for installing debain...I recently tried the LFS live CD, but failed in actually getting a working system up and running |
| 04:06.42 | kspath | mustard5: how small was your DFS install? |
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| 04:07.43 | mustard5 | kspath, well I grabbed the 400mb live CD from my brothers broadband connection..I haven't actually looked to see how much I have used in the actual install so far |
| 04:07.58 | mustard5 | kspath, I've got as far as setting up xfce4 so far |
| 04:08.39 | kspath | mustard5: Have you tried a base install using netinstall and only installing bare minimum of what you want after that? |
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| 04:08.44 | bucky | does debian have a live cd now? |
| 04:08.51 | mustard5 | kspath, according to df -h I've used 708mb so far of my hard drive space |
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| 04:09.12 | kspath | mustard5: That does not seem very small. |
| 04:09.19 | swim | when setting up debian for 686 what else other than a 686 kernel should I get? |
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| 04:09.42 | bureado | swim: Seems enough to me. |
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| 04:09.47 | bureado | bucky: You can build one with bootcd. |
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| 04:09.59 | bureado | bucky: But there are several LiveCD projects already made using Debian. |
| 04:10.09 | peterS | swim: you can install libc6-686 if you wish |
| 04:10.10 | babyju | Hello, anyone know if I can limit ssh logins to the root of their shell? |
| 04:10.21 | kspath | bureado: based on Debian |
| 04:10.23 | swim | ah thats the one thanks peterS |
| 04:10.30 | peterS | babyju: investigate rbash, I suppose |
| 04:10.44 | babyju | using openssh-4.2 |
| 04:10.55 | mustard5 | kspath, never tried a 'netinstall', or if I did I probably wouldnt know since I'm not familiar with the full meaning of the term :) |
| 04:11.42 | bureado | I meant what kspath said. |
| 04:11.45 | bureado | bucky: http://www.us.debian.org/CD/faq/#live-cd |
| 04:11.46 | kspath | mustard5: debian.org has two different netinstall CDs a small one that is a complete base install and a tiny one. |
| 04:11.54 | mustard5 | kspath, ah ok |
| 04:12.03 | minerale | where may I download w32codecs / anyone have source? |
| 04:12.12 | peterS | !marillat |
| 04:12.12 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 04:12.21 | peterS | minerale: see what dpkg just said about marillat |
| 04:12.25 | mustard5 | kspath, I'll check those out in the future as well..it was more an exercise in learning how debian works 'under the hood' so to speak |
| 04:13.01 | kspath | mustard5: Are you sure you learned that? |
| 04:13.09 | mustard5 | kspath, hehehe..not really no :) |
| 04:13.24 | mustard5 | kspath, seems like you install the 'base install' and then apt-get everything :) |
| 04:13.47 | mustard5 | kspath, I certainly hit some errors along the way though, that I had to overcome |
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| 04:14.04 | peterS | mustard5: that's the general meaning of the term 'net install', yeah. the idea that you don't have a full CD or CD set with packages on it, but just a small CD with the installer and the base packages, and the rest you get from a mirror |
| 04:14.47 | mustard5 | peterS, ah ok...I assume this is similar to a base install + netinstall process |
| 04:15.33 | peterS | mustard5: if you navigate through cdimage.debian.org you will find 'netinst' CD images, that's the specific meaning. the netinst contains the installer and the base system, so you don't need a network until you've rebooted into a base system. |
| 04:15.33 | MrNaz | whats the difference between apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 04:15.57 | peterS | MrNaz: 'update' updates the package indexes so the local system knows what is available for installation and upgrade. 'upgrade' upgrades actual packages |
| 04:16.03 | mustard5 | peterS, k..I'll check it out, thanks :) |
| 04:16.03 | kspath | MrNaz: Did you watch what update does? |
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| 04:16.31 | mustard5 | peterS, I've managed to get DFS up as far as having xfce4 running, so it was fun anyway :) |
| 04:16.45 | MrNaz | kspath yes i did.... i was reasonably certain that what peterS said was what happened, but im still a green noob and am learning |
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| 04:17.08 | kspath | MrNaz: apt-get update is safe. apt-get upgrade is where you can get into trouble |
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| 04:17.17 | NoRC` | last question for today... Grub... WOnt boot the right winxp partition... i need it to boot /dev/hda5 |
| 04:17.20 | MrNaz | kspath you can get into trouble??? |
| 04:17.22 | MrNaz | how so? |
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| 04:18.05 | bureado | NoRC`: Have you checked /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 04:18.06 | evaded | NoRC`: look to /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 04:18.33 | NoRC` | yeh |
| 04:18.36 | NoRC` | im lookin in there |
| 04:18.41 | kspath | MrNaz: Sarge/Stable upgrades are safe if you did not do anything special/custom that you should not. Etch/Testing and especially Sid/Unstable is where the scary thing most often happen with upgrades. |
| 04:18.52 | NoRC` | it was usin hd(0,1) which aint my winxp |
| 04:19.00 | NoRC` | i put it to hd(0,4) but it errored still |
| 04:19.16 | NoRC` | ive made more changes, gunna try another reboot now |
| 04:19.23 | NoRC` | see if that works with rootnoverify +1 |
| 04:19.38 | NoRC` | sorry with rootnoverify (hd0,4) and chainloader+1 |
| 04:19.55 | kspath | MrNaz: in other words updates do not themselves make any permanent changes to your system. |
| 04:20.01 | bureado | You need the chainloader stuff line |
| 04:20.36 | kspath | MrNaz: be especially careful with your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:20.49 | bureado | But if it doesn't boot, sounds like you've wrecked the boot of that operating system. |
| 04:20.56 | NoRC` | brb tryin again... |
| 04:21.00 | bureado | In which case I'd recommend you to forget about it and stay with Debian. |
| 04:21.20 | MrNaz | kspath im running a stock standard sarge install, and the only packages i have on the machine (aside from less, vim and a few other small things like that) are php/postgres/apache which are compiled from source (for various reasons) |
| 04:21.28 | kspath | MrNaz: read information about an upgrade before continuing |
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| 04:21.43 | sigmacho | can anyone tell me why i can't uninstall openoffice without it trying to remove gnome? |
| 04:22.18 | sigmacho | synaptic says that gnome is a dependency |
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| 04:22.28 | kspath | MrNaz: so obviously before saying ok to upgrades make sure they will not impact those things or things they depend on. |
| 04:22.37 | jetscreamer | gnome is a metapackage |
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| 04:23.01 | sigmacho | jetscreamer can you elaborate? |
| 04:23.16 | MrNaz | kspath i do... but unfortunately being a noob i will likely not pick up on dependency issues that may arise until i break my system... |
| 04:23.22 | MrNaz | i guess thats all part of the fun heh |
| 04:23.25 | jetscreamer | !metapackage |
| 04:23.25 | dpkg | methinks metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
| 04:23.58 | jetscreamer | so if it wants to remove gnome, and not gnome* or whatever, it's ok |
| 04:24.13 | sigmacho | ok |
| 04:24.17 | sigmacho | i will try this |
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| 04:24.20 | jetscreamer | the metapackages are just to install many things |
| 04:24.23 | bureado | It would be nice to have a "world" metapackage depending on everything. This way you could aptitude purge world. |
| 04:24.27 | sigmacho | gotcha |
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| 04:27.27 | xomhau | hi all |
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| 04:29.10 | jetscreamer | apt-get remove --purge * |
| 04:29.11 | xomhau | i using openoffice1.1.4 , when i copy from webpage ( text and images ) and paste into OOo , all images lost if connect internet close |
| 04:29.25 | xomhau | anyone help me pls |
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| 04:29.57 | kspath | xomhau: Are your pastes of images from net actually pasting in as links? |
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| 04:30.16 | rumpl | xomhau, use wget to dl a page with images and all. |
| 04:30.21 | mustard5 | xomhau, I wonder if you could save the webpages to your hard drive using the brower, so that it can reference the images from there instead |
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| 04:31.20 | kspath | xomhau: Are you right-clicking to get an option to paste? Is there more than one option in right-click menu for pasting? |
| 04:32.08 | nse | xomhau: do this, do that. don't get confused |
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| 04:33.32 | rumpl | or inr the browser, there is always an option to save with images, an dI think that when you do that, the browser changes the links, so the <img> searches the image on you're HD |
| 04:33.55 | xomhau | thank all |
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| 04:35.22 | leaveone | what is the newest stable version of wine for sarge and how can i get it.. apt-get doesnt have the latest |
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| 04:36.02 | kspath | xomhau: I think you were choosing select-all and copy in your browser and pasting into ooffice? |
| 04:36.32 | Atrocity | is there something special in debian that would make it so i can't port-forward using just iptables? |
| 04:37.07 | kspath | xomhau: I did the same into ooffice and I got something different than I might have thought would be ideal. |
| 04:37.11 | evaded | leaveone: Probably you have the lastest version for Stable |
| 04:37.32 | kspath | xomhau: the recommendation of using wget instead might be quite useful to you. |
| 04:37.32 | xomhau | kspath, yes |
| 04:37.50 | leaveone | but its over a year old? |
| 04:38.15 | mustard5 | leaveone, yeah, its seems a contradictory question...the newest stable version for sarge..would be the very nature of sarges stability not be the latest version of wine |
| 04:38.15 | evaded | leaveone: And?? |
| 04:38.27 | kspath | xomhau: alternative is select text and copy/paste that then separate save image to local disk and place in document the way to want . |
| 04:38.31 | xomhau | kspath, using wget for dl webpages? |
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| 04:38.59 | kspath | xomhau: yes it will grab web pages and save them for you. |
| 04:39.22 | leaveone | i was in the #winehq room and they said that 9.7 is the newest version |
| 04:39.29 | sandman | How does apt-build know whether or not I want to build a package from testing or from unstable, if I have both defined as sources in sources.list |
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| 04:39.47 | xomhau | kspath, but i need document (type ooo ) with images |
| 04:39.56 | kspath | xomhau: alternative it do the copy/paste like you were doing then go back to that page and save the images to your localdrive by right-clicking on each image and choosing to save-image |
| 04:40.08 | evaded | leaveone: You not _always_ need the lastest version if you want the _stable_ one! |
| 04:40.47 | mustard5 | leaveone, the answer would be to leave stability behind and make 'bleeding edge' your priority then..with the consquences that come from that...sometimes things break |
| 04:40.51 | xomhau | kspath, ok , thank u |
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| 04:40.59 | kspath | xomhau: then go back to the ooffice document and place the matching images you saved to your localdrive in the appropriate places. |
| 04:41.04 | leaveone | well i got an error when i tried to install a program into wine so they suggested that maybe i upgrade |
| 04:41.38 | evaded | leaveone: That's not true i guess |
| 04:41.45 | mustard5 | leaveone, how important is this 'program' to you? Is it more important than the stability of your system? Ask yourself these questions :) |
| 04:41.46 | evaded | leaveone: What try you to install? |
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| 04:41.59 | leaveone | DVDShrink |
| 04:42.08 | _BlackDragon42 | Does anyone know or have MIDI working for the VIA 82Cxxx audio set? |
| 04:42.19 | mustard5 | leaveone, you can find linux equivalents for that |
| 04:42.19 | leaveone | and according to winehq appdb it should work |
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| 04:43.03 | kspath | evaded: What are you trying to install? |
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| 04:43.38 | evaded | leaveone: Need you 'acidrip'?? |
| 04:43.43 | mustard5 | leaveone, I assume they mean, it will work 'if you have the correct version of wine running' |
| 04:43.47 | evaded | kspath: ;-) |
| 04:44.00 | kspath | evaded: Do you need 'acidrip'? |
| 04:44.06 | leaveone | yeah perhaps.. i guess ill just look into acidrip |
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| 04:44.43 | evaded | kspath: It's looks that english are very complicated :-/ |
| 04:45.09 | CraZyLeGs | what's the difference between debian-update-3.1r1-i386-1.iso and debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.iso ? |
| 04:45.25 | kspath | English is singular is |
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| 04:46.31 | kspath | evaded: It looks like English is very complicated. |
| 04:46.34 | sigmacho | where are my resolution settings kept? |
| 04:46.34 | kspath | evaded: English capitalizes proper nouns. |
| 04:46.34 | evaded | kspath: I'm bad and learn not so quick :-( |
| 04:46.36 | CraZyLeGs | I mean should I download the update one or the normal ? |
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| 04:46.48 | evaded | kspath: Yes, i have forget it |
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| 04:46.56 | kspath | sigmacho: XFree86 or Xorg? in /etc/X11/ ... |
| 04:47.12 | evaded | CrazyEddy: The normal |
| 04:47.34 | sigmacho | xfree86 is the symlink |
| 04:47.35 | CraZyLeGs | k |
| 04:47.43 | _BlackDragon42 | It is in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 04:48.53 | sandman | My system froze about a half an hour ago, and I looked through teh logs but didn't find anything. |
| 04:48.55 | sandman | Is there anything anyone can suggest? |
| 04:49.36 | kspath | anything interesting that crontabs would have tried half an hour ago? |
| 04:49.46 | _BlackDragon42 | Hmm... |
| 04:50.01 | kspath | sandman: your memory is not seated correctly or otherwise messed up? |
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| 04:50.24 | kspath | sandman: memory leak finally killed your machine? |
| 04:50.42 | sandman | No |
| 04:50.48 | evaded | sandman: Or somethings bad configured? |
| 04:50.48 | kspath | sandman: anything interesting that crontabs would have tried half an hour ago? |
| 04:50.51 | sandman | 1GB of RAM here, with 512M Swap |
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| 04:50.54 | sandman | Almost none is being used. |
| 04:51.08 | sandman | So there's no way for me to figure out what went wrong? |
| 04:51.11 | evaded | sandman: That would not say that the RAM are not dead! |
| 04:51.18 | sigmacho | where is the sudoers file? i need to add my administration account to it |
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| 04:51.23 | kspath | sandman: power saving functions kicked in and borked it? |
| 04:51.34 | sandman | kspath: THat's a possibility I suppose |
| 04:51.35 | kspath | sandman: xscreensaver horqed it? |
| 04:51.39 | sandman | No |
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| 04:52.00 | evaded | sandman: Have you change some config? |
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| 04:52.29 | kspath | sandman: your display was dark and unresponsive or what it visible but not updating? |
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| 04:52.38 | kspath | was |
| 04:52.56 | _BlackDragon42 | APC and ACPI can cause problems... |
| 04:52.59 | sandman | evaded: No |
| 04:53.18 | sandman | So what you're saying is that if my system freezes, there will be nothing in the logs? |
| 04:53.24 | kspath | sandman: cat or child bumped your power button? |
| 04:53.35 | kspath | sandman: power surge or brown out? |
| 04:53.37 | sandman | It was strange.. my mouse worked |
| 04:53.47 | sandman | But nothing would respond, not even a ctrl+alt+F1 |
| 04:53.59 | evaded | sandman: Not always! If he have hang, how can he write in the log file?? |
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| 04:54.08 | kspath | sandman: did you try shift+ctrl+alt+F1 ? |
| 04:54.30 | evaded | sandman: ssh to it? |
| 04:54.58 | kspath | sandman: Did you check your X logs or only your "normal" /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog type stuffs? |
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| 04:55.56 | Azar | ok I would need some documentation to prepare for going up to etch then sid: what should I know about upping to higher kernels, should I be prepared to reconfigure X, sound? |
| 04:55.58 | evaded | sandman: Which applications was running? |
| 04:56.33 | kspath | evaded: What applications were running? |
| 04:56.37 | Azar | are there pre-compiled kernels offered in repository for etch? for sid? |
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| 04:56.51 | sandman | evaded: freeciv, gnome |
| 04:57.10 | Azar | damn ugly fonts... |
| 04:57.16 | evaded | Azar: In Etch i know yes |
| 04:57.28 | kspath | sandman: unless you can replicate it there are so many possible things that might have happened that are hard to eliminate for certain. |
| 04:57.30 | sandman | kspath: Just normal stuffs |
| 04:57.38 | sandman | kspath: So how do I fix it? |
| 04:57.40 | sandman | Just deal with it? |
| 04:57.55 | kspath | sandman: Fix what? Is it still "frozen" now? |
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| 04:58.08 | sandman | kspath: No, it's not frozen |
| 04:58.10 | evaded | Azar: In Etch i know yes |
| 04:58.11 | sandman | kspath: But it likely will be |
| 04:58.23 | kspath | sandman: This is not the first time? |
| 04:58.25 | Azar | thank you evaded, you know yes, what? |
| 04:58.35 | kspath | sandman: Are you running stock kernel and command hardware? |
| 04:58.44 | sandman | command hardware? |
| 04:58.49 | kspath | common |
| 04:58.53 | evaded | Azar: What you have asked about: If there are binaire kernels in Etch ... |
| 04:59.02 | sandman | Common hardware, and debian kernel |
| 04:59.04 | kspath | sorry half asleep or half awake not certain now |
| 04:59.05 | Azar | evaded, ah ah ok thank you :) |
| 04:59.31 | evaded | kspath: fifty fifty :-) |
| 04:59.33 | Azar | ok I will harvest my system info then check it out |
| 04:59.52 | evaded | Azar: Make some backups! |
| 05:00.03 | Azar | evaded, no need, this is a junk test box |
| 05:00.09 | kspath | sandman: well X was involved but not totally dead if your cursor was moving on screen. |
| 05:00.09 | evaded | Azar: Docs, config files ... |
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| 05:00.14 | evaded | Azar: ok |
| 05:00.38 | leaveone | evaded, ok so acidrip isnt what i needed.. im looking for a program to copy dvd files and preserve most of the quality.. acidrip converts from dvd to avi or mpg |
| 05:00.52 | evaded | Azar: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 05:00.58 | kspath | sandman: I do not know X well enough to know at what level what had broken. |
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| 05:01.44 | evaded | leaveone: k3b?? An CD burntool needed?? |
| 05:01.45 | Azar | already found two interesting things, 1. two months after reviving this box, aptitude update made me install kernel-image 2.6.8 again. Reason? dunno but I did it anyways. 2. Gkrellmd has been taking a user account never knew it would do this |
| 05:01.50 | lilo | btw, fazlamesai.net is a Turkish news/blog site that seems to have a lot of information about free software |
| 05:01.54 | kspath | sandman: You could still see the window frames from your window manager but keyboard would not work and your code not gain focus via mouse or keyboard for any windows? |
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| 05:02.01 | Azar | ok evaded, gonnd read |
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| 05:02.25 | kspath | sandman: s/your code/you could/ |
| 05:02.28 | lilo | they had nothing to do with the spam attacks, other than that I think some kid that's annoyed at a channel staffer on their channel is trying to get them kicked off freenode |
| 05:02.41 | leaveone | evaded, no i have k3b too.. but acidrip just converts into those 2 file formats.. to put on regular cds |
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| 05:02.57 | evaded | leaveone: VCD |
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| 05:03.15 | kspath | as I suspected lilo that channel was a target |
| 05:03.18 | evaded | leaveone: I not remember the app for you |
| 05:03.25 | leaveone | DVDShrink copies dvd files to preserve the chapters and everything like that.. including surround sound |
| 05:03.38 | kspath | people are just wierd it seems |
| 05:03.44 | Azar | ok evaded, not much help there for me, I will not install etch, I intend to upgrade to it |
| 05:04.21 | evaded | Azar: /msg sarge->etch |
| 05:04.24 | evaded | oeps |
| 05:04.30 | evaded | Azar: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 05:04.41 | Azar | ok |
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| 05:05.17 | evaded | Azar: There are not many things to considere i think, not sure. I have migrate an computer so and ... work nice |
| 05:05.30 | Vyrus001 | i keep getting an err msg saying "make sure you have the right "root=" value" when i boot my new kernel? ive tried checking my initrd.img and enableing fs options in make menu config |
| 05:05.40 | Vyrus001 | anybody know why i cant bot it ? |
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| 05:06.19 | evaded | leaveone: Yes, i know, but i not remember the alternative that you could use |
| 05:06.20 | liable | Vyrus001: what kind of controller? maybe the new kernel sees it as sd? |
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| 05:06.29 | liable | or vice versa |
| 05:06.33 | Vyrus001 | laptop |
| 05:06.34 | leaveone | evaded, oh ok |
| 05:06.41 | liable | Vyrus001: sata? |
| 05:06.48 | wolaoye | at which point of the boot process does startx get executed? |
| 05:06.51 | Azar | evaded, I want to learn facts related to upgrading to etch like: do I have to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.8, if I want to upgrade the kernel would I find a pre-compiled one working with etch, do I have to reconfigure X, Sound? |
| 05:06.53 | kspath | lilo: Thank you for the update on that/them. |
| 05:06.57 | evaded | leaveone: There are many way i know |
| 05:06.59 | Vyrus001 | liable, nope old ide |
| 05:07.02 | leaveone | well let me know if you find out.. you might have to send me a private msg |
| 05:07.03 | Vyrus001 | liable, sata isnt even in my kernel :P |
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| 05:07.17 | lilo | kspath: np |
| 05:07.57 | evaded | Azar: I think you need to reconfig all |
| 05:08.34 | evaded | Azar: It's been an test box?? Try first, to experiment?? If fail, go to see where |
| 05:08.55 | wolaoye | no one know when startx first get executed during boot? |
| 05:08.59 | evaded | leaveone: no |
| 05:09.08 | evaded | leaveone: no prv |
| 05:09.10 | Zugschlus | !ops can somebody please mention sarge r2 release in /topic? |
| 05:09.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: can somebody please mention sarge r2 release in /topic |
| 05:09.13 | liable | Azar: of course you will find a working kernel, and you will prolly have to reconfigure x (although you didnt used to, it just renamed the file) whats the big deal? |
| 05:09.18 | Azar | ok good thing I do not have to compile kernels myself |
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| 05:09.46 | Azar | liable thats ok just to make a todo list here |
| 05:10.29 | Azar | ok dpkg is not giving full info related to testing security I guess I could go without |
| 05:10.54 | liable | wolaoye: either by your dm or when you call startx |
| 05:10.56 | Azar | !secure-testing-master-apt-key |
| 05:10.56 | kspath | Zugschlus: likely someone will change it within a few hours |
| 05:11.10 | _BlackDragon42 | . |
| 05:11.21 | liable | Azar: i think you have an extra - in there |
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| 05:11.47 | gravity | Gar, why is topic's tab complete not working for me |
| 05:11.51 | leaveone | evaded, why not |
| 05:12.03 | kspath | gravity: Did you see what lilo said about the attacks? |
| 05:12.07 | wolaoye | liable: dm? and it is the system that will call startx. do u know which start-up script does it? |
| 05:12.20 | liable | wolaoye: your desktop manager |
| 05:12.36 | evaded | leaveone: Because i say you that i not want to go talk privee. Imagine you all the 755 people here in private conversation with me!!! |
| 05:12.52 | Zugschlus | kspath: until then people are going to keep asking what's going on with libc6, mutt, perl etc |
| 05:12.52 | wolaoye | liable: say, kdm? |
| 05:12.58 | liable | yep |
| 05:13.09 | leaveone | evaded, heh ok.. point taken |
| 05:13.11 | liable | !private |
| 05:13.12 | dpkg | NO, we will NOT help you in private! Ask your question in the channel so that others can help. Don't send private messages to people asking for help, either, or you will be /ignore'd. |
| 05:13.26 | evaded | liable: I love you ;-) |
| 05:13.29 | *** topic/#debian by gravity -> xorg 7.0 in unstable, BEWARE UNSTABLE: http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable | Sarge r2 is out! | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | NOTE: this is NOT #ubuntu. | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flod or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 05:13.39 | *** topic/#debian by gravity -> xorg 7.0 in unstable, BEWARE UNSTABLE: http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable | Sarge r2 is out! | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | NOTE: this is NOT #ubuntu. | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq/wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 05:13.42 | Zugschlus | gravity: thanks |
| 05:13.46 | gravity | kspath: Recently? |
| 05:13.49 | gravity | Zugschlus: No problem |
| 05:13.52 | kspath | gravity: yes |
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| 05:14.13 | gravity | Ok... |
| 05:14.16 | gravity | Now I saw, thanks |
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| 05:14.34 | wolaoye | liable: if i am using kdm, startx would likely be exec in kdm.rc? |
| 05:14.38 | kspath | 00:01 < lilo> btw, fazlamesai.net is a Turkish news/blog site that seems to have a lot of information about free software |
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| 05:14.42 | Azar | ok another question: I am using lilo, will I be forced to switch to grub once I go up with etch? |
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| 05:15.15 | kspath | gravity: They were a target rather than the perps. |
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| 05:15.28 | liable | wolaoye: i dont know the inner workings of it. try the man pages and /usr/share/doc/kdm to see if you can work it out |
| 05:15.29 | Azar | um ok rephrase: does lilo work in etch? |
| 05:15.43 | liable | Azar: well, it works in sid.. |
| 05:15.44 | evaded | Azar: It's better you use Grub, a bit more features and would replace lilo |
| 05:15.53 | Supaplex | but lilo works on freenode |
| 05:16.07 | k-god | Supaplex: touche. |
| 05:16.10 | action09 | i had problems installing grub.. never make it work but lilo is ok, so i use lilo |
| 05:16.12 | Azar | evaded: I do not buy "lilo is old, obsolete" if it works I stay with it |
| 05:16.29 | Azar | thanks evaded, liable |
| 05:16.38 | evaded | Azar: It's was just BTW, i had to say it ;:-/ |
| 05:16.48 | Supaplex | who needs a boot loader? I have the rom basic program to do it all. |
| 05:17.06 | liable | i do! |
| 05:17.16 | kspath | not! |
| 05:17.22 | liable | i aint no computah geenus! |
| 05:17.35 | sandman | Why is it that when I run aptitude install anjuta, it removes fam? |
| 05:17.50 | liable | because of confilcts i would guess. |
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| 05:18.45 | simonrvn | i wouldn't worry about it anyway, it should pull in gamin |
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| 05:19.18 | simonrvn | (or suggest it, or something) |
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| 05:22.31 | kspath | Is +R or time of day making #debian a little more quiet? |
| 05:23.02 | liable | would imagine +R would make it a wee bit quieter |
| 05:23.08 | _BlackDragon42 | It is rather early in the morning... |
| 05:23.10 | evaded | kspath: Probably, like only registred users could access here i think |
| 05:23.19 | shogunx | higher signal to noise ration anyway. |
| 05:23.40 | liable | _BlackDragon42: where? its beer'o'clock in my part of the world.. |
| 05:24.12 | kspath | shogunx: I can wreck that signal to noise ratio in a matter of minutes with my innane comments. |
| 05:24.30 | shogunx | the bars are open for another hour and a half or so here. |
| 05:25.02 | _BlackDragon42 | It's past 1:30 AM where I am at. |
| 05:25.11 | shogunx | kspath yeah, i've been known to do that from time to time too. |
| 05:25.19 | jetscreamer | weird since it's .25 after the hour |
| 05:25.30 | jetscreamer | install ntpdate maybe |
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| 05:25.48 | evaded | shogunx: Happy hour?? |
| 05:25.50 | kspath | jetscreamer: or ntpd or openntpd? |
| 05:26.01 | evaded | shogunx: 2 for the price of 1? |
| 05:26.07 | simonrvn | eew, not openntpd |
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| 05:26.12 | shogunx | evaded and lots of them. |
| 05:26.15 | kspath | simonrvn: hehehe |
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| 05:26.54 | evaded | !ntp |
| 05:26.54 | dpkg | hmm... ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 05:26.56 | xomhau | re hi , i dl OOo 2.0 , all are .rpm file , only 1 file is .deb , how to install ? |
| 05:27.15 | xomhau | :( |
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| 05:27.25 | keck0f | hi |
| 05:27.28 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search openoffice && apt-get install something |
| 05:27.43 | liable | does backports have oo2? |
| 05:27.50 | kspath | xomhau: backports have ooffice2? |
| 05:27.55 | jetscreamer | oh stable |
| 05:27.56 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 05:27.59 | evaded | liable: yes |
| 05:28.14 | kspath | xomhau: You are running Sarge/Stable? |
| 05:28.20 | liable | xomhau: ^^ go visit backports.org |
| 05:28.27 | xomhau | kspath, openoffice.org-debian-menus_2.0.0-3_all.deb |
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| 05:28.42 | xomhau | kspath, i running testing on amd64 |
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| 05:28.53 | liable | oh. |
| 05:28.59 | ClasMan | on *:start: { |
| 05:28.59 | ClasMan | unset %* |
| 05:28.59 | ClasMan | .timer -i 1 2 NICK v2 $+ $_rands |
| 05:28.59 | ClasMan | .timer -i 1 2 ANICK v2 $+ $_rands |
| 05:28.59 | ClasMan | .timer -i 1 2 IDENTD ON $_rands |
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| 05:29.24 | liable | that would have to be an asshole? |
| 05:29.24 | neoxan | cool bot |
| 05:29.24 | jetscreamer | !tell odysseus -about marillat |
| 05:29.29 | keck0f | could you help? i'd like to install an x-server on sid-amd64. if i do "apt-get install xorg xutils xserver-xorg x11-common" the error message is "x11-common: Kollidiert: xutils (<= 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6) aber 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 soll installiert werden xorg: Hängt ab: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) aber 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 soll installiert werden" -> "broken Packages". Do i still have to wait or is there a workaround? |
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| 05:30.02 | _BlackDragon42 | Download the file, and in a shell type: dpkg -i packagename, where packagename is the full name of the .deb |
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| 05:30.07 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, can I install pkgs of ubuntu in debian? like amarok 1.4 ? |
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| 05:30.11 | simonrvn | yet another crappy spider to deny |
| 05:30.16 | _BlackDragon42 | And... |
| 05:30.21 | _BlackDragon42 | VOILA! |
| 05:30.22 | evaded | SonnyBurnett: Are you crazy??? |
| 05:30.36 | Azar | uh oh I can't upgrade to etch , my sources are listed as non existent |
| 05:30.53 | jetscreamer | SonnyBurnett: debian breaks ubuntu and vice versa |
| 05:30.57 | liable | SonnyBurnett: its definately not suggested to do so. it may however work. or it may not. or it may work now, and break later. |
| 05:31.01 | evaded | Azar: 'apt-setup'?? |
| 05:31.03 | _BlackDragon42 | Another way, there... |
| 05:31.03 | kspath | SonnyBurnett: not a good idea. likely to screw up a lot of stuffs if you force it. |
| 05:31.12 | simonrvn | SonnyBurnett: highly not recommended |
| 05:31.34 | simonrvn | evaded: gone from etch for a while now |
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| 05:31.54 | jetscreamer | apt-spy ? |
| 05:31.55 | kspath | SonnyBurnett: Did you even look that amarok 1.4 dependencies? |
| 05:32.04 | SonnyBurnett | kspath, nop |
| 05:32.07 | jetscreamer | !info apt-spy etch |
| 05:32.08 | simonrvn | !mirror split |
| 05:32.09 | dpkg | mirror split is, like, http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors-announce/2006/02/msg00000.html |
| 05:32.10 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-14 (etch), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 05:32.21 | simonrvn | Azar: may be relevant ^^ |
| 05:32.23 | liable | Azar: c'mon dude. you have been around long enough. pick new mirrors. |
| 05:32.39 | kspath | SonnyBurnett: examine what Amarok 1.4 wants/needs to function |
| 05:32.43 | Azar | liable its ok I only was infatuated with a german server.. |
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| 05:33.06 | Azar | ah I know why : it does not recognize "etch" as a distro, it has to be "testing" |
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| 05:34.02 | liable | Azar: infatuated with a mirror? go seek help now! :P |
| 05:34.14 | Azar | liable, what I can say? no life |
| 05:34.35 | _BlackDragon42 | LOL |
| 05:34.42 | Azar | ok fixed, thank you guys out for the new adventure, be back if I am lucky |
| 05:34.46 | _BlackDragon42 | Me neither. |
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| 05:37.42 | evaded | Fuck these bastards!!! |
| 05:38.23 | evaded | Some people not know what are good and what are bad :-/ |
| 05:38.41 | kspath | evaded: ? |
| 05:38.41 | liable | evaded: what are you raving about? |
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| 05:39.15 | evaded | About what lilo say and about what going wrong with these kiddies |
| 05:40.01 | kspath | evaded: That is the same notice from earlier repeated. |
| 05:40.09 | evaded | I not understand why people find it nice to break things :-( |
| 05:40.25 | evaded | It's so really nice here :-) |
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| 05:40.44 | kspath | evaded: They have no fear of karma or retribution or compassion or sense or ... |
| 05:41.03 | evaded | kspath: Yes, these are stupid people |
| 05:41.11 | _BlackDragon42 | True... |
| 05:41.19 | evaded | kspath: But we know better here :-p |
| 05:41.27 | kspath | evaded: Do we? |
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| 05:41.41 | _BlackDragon42 | Can't we all just get along? |
| 05:41.50 | evaded | kspath: the people here of #debian and the good others one |
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| 05:42.33 | evaded | oeps |
| 05:42.34 | evaded | E |
| 05:42.41 | swim | hey folks would anyone happen to know what package debian has for extended gnome configuration... like gdm configuration etc? |
| 05:43.11 | insidius | hmm whats going on then? |
| 05:43.21 | kspath | swim: apt-cache search gnome | grep config ? |
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| 05:43.51 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:43.52 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:44.00 | tarzeau | kspath: do you ever sleep? |
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| 05:44.05 | insidius | how can i figure out if someone is being block from sending mail through my server that could send mail before |
| 05:44.16 | evaded | tarzeau: He sleep never :-p |
| 05:44.19 | tarzeau | insidius: by the logs |
| 05:44.44 | kspath | tarzeau: I did sleep yesterday. |
| 05:45.05 | insidius | what particular log cause im freaking, i dont usally so this sorta thing |
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| 05:45.21 | kspath | insidius: /var/log/mail.info or /var/log/maillog or /var/log/mail.err ? |
| 05:45.36 | Azar | what kernel should I up to after upgrading to etch? I use 2.6.8 |
| 05:46.17 | kspath | insidius: blocked due to IP or hostname or domain or ? |
| 05:46.38 | kspath | insidius: Is their domain failing resolution? |
| 05:46.42 | liable | Azar: get the meta package if you want to keep updating it when they are released. |
| 05:46.49 | kspath | insidius: Did their domain expire? |
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| 05:47.03 | Azar | liable, what is a meta package? |
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| 05:47.10 | jetscreamer | !metapackage |
| 05:47.10 | dpkg | somebody said metapackage was a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
| 05:47.48 | liable | Azar: it just depends on the latest kernel. linux-image-2.6-686 for example |
| 05:47.52 | kspath | I do not understand how people can "run" mail servers without knowing anything about them or sometimes even about email at all. |
| 05:48.01 | insidius | I dont run it |
| 05:48.08 | insidius | I dont normally go anywhere near it |
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| 05:48.24 | insidius | But there is noone else here |
| 05:48.26 | Azar | thank you, I want to use this box so I can start contributing, so I guess I will go to the limits with it |
| 05:48.27 | liable | !be a mail barbie |
| 05:48.28 | dpkg | Aww, mail is HARD! Let's go shopping, liable |
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| 05:48.57 | kspath | insidius: push it up to those that are supposed to support it. |
| 05:49.10 | Azar | jetscreamer so I can do : aptitude install metapackage? |
| 05:49.16 | insidius | I did and the dick turned off his phone, shit im sick of this job |
| 05:49.25 | jetscreamer | yes azar |
| 05:50.09 | kspath | insidius: I am an unemployed experienced sysadmin mailadmin. Why would I troubleshoot everyones MTA issues for free if I can not afford to buy food or pay for housing. |
| 05:50.36 | shogunx | kspath has a point there. |
| 05:50.54 | evaded | kspath: Same case here |
| 05:51.08 | liable | then why are you here if not to help? |
| 05:51.13 | insidius | Im not saying that, i just wanted a pointer. I dont really give a flying fuck about mail myself |
| 05:51.13 | kspath | US has lowest unemployment in decades my ass end. |
| 05:51.15 | liable | just curious.. |
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| 05:52.19 | kspath | insidius: /var/log/mail* whatever your MTA is go to its web site and read about logs and troubleshooting |
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| 05:53.34 | _BlackDragon42 | . |
| 05:53.48 | neoxan | - |
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| 05:54.31 | action09 | . |
| 05:54.44 | action09 | -.-. --.- |
| 05:54.54 | action09 | :p |
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| 05:55.54 | Azar | damn 2.6.15 is bloated, 91mb? wtf? |
| 05:56.00 | simonrvn | eh? |
| 05:56.09 | Eclipser | since when was size bloat? |
| 05:56.16 | Azar | I am installing 2.6.15 |
| 05:56.34 | jetscreamer | i don't remember 2.6.15 being 91 megs |
| 05:56.36 | Azar | After unpacking 91.1MB will be used |
| 05:56.38 | kspath | liable: Who were you asking? |
| 05:56.41 | simonrvn | 2.5M 2006-04-01 08:23 vmlinux-2.6.16-pylon.1.gz |
| 05:57.00 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 05:57.07 | simonrvn | gzip -9 |
| 05:57.16 | neoxan | where to download debian unstable? :) |
| 05:57.20 | liable | kspath: was asking you. |
| 05:57.28 | simonrvn | if you have to ask, don't bother |
| 05:57.33 | jetscreamer | -rw-r--r-- 1 jetx src 39315716 Mar 6 05:32 linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 |
| 05:57.48 | simonrvn | that's about right |
| 05:58.10 | Azar | hotplug kicked, udev installed :) |
| 05:58.14 | jetscreamer | neoxan: do you have a debian install already? |
| 05:58.24 | neoxan | yes |
| 05:58.37 | kspath | liable: I try to help with mostly debian specific things which is supposed to be on-topic. Sometimes I will help with other stuffs. I did offer useful suggestions. I will not go deeper than that. |
| 05:58.38 | jetscreamer | you just change your sources.list |
| 05:58.39 | insidius | Hurrah i figured it out! Its got shit all to do with the bloody mail client |
| 05:58.44 | simonrvn | jetscreamer: quik (ppc bootloader) doesn't handle bzip2 |
| 05:58.51 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 05:58.54 | jetscreamer | ppc |
| 05:59.01 | jetscreamer | i saw a mac once |
| 05:59.11 | action09 | neoxan no official isos, you can find them unofficals on google.. but best thing to do is install a stable change 'stable' to 'unstable' in /etc/apt/sources.list and do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' |
| 05:59.12 | insidius | Althoug its not my job to do this sort of shit, mabye it is about time i learnt about it anyway |
| 05:59.25 | simonrvn | 2.3M 2006-04-01 07:47 vmlinuz-2.6.16-acahkos.1 <-- x86 one (home rolled too) |
| 05:59.37 | neoxan | ok, thanks everyone =) |
| 05:59.46 | liable | kspath: ok. |
| 05:59.57 | kspath | insidius: If someone is forcing it on you than that is a decent idea. |
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| 06:00.21 | simonrvn | neoxan: be ready to have things break on you. use dselect-upgrade or better yet use aptitude/dselect to switch your system over |
| 06:00.37 | jetscreamer | you can get a link to unofficial sid .iso's on debian.org also |
| 06:00.46 | neoxan | i know simonrvn :) |
| 06:00.51 | insidius | Normally i just cover things like lost passwords and the like but my company keeps firing people and now its just me left |
| 06:00.58 | jetscreamer | soem .hu url i forget |
| 06:01.08 | simonrvn | neoxan: ok. just wanted to make sure you were aware of it |
| 06:01.08 | liable | insidius: ask for a pay rise! |
| 06:01.10 | insidius | Now i do sales, tech support and things like this that freak the hell outta me |
| 06:01.27 | simonrvn | eew, i wouldn't do sales, i suck at sales |
| 06:02.03 | liable | hehe, yeah. standard response: well do you want the fucking thing or not? |
| 06:02.26 | kspath | simonrvn: You do not enjoy bending the truth around your finger and pretending to be everyones happy go lucky long lost new friend? |
| 06:02.47 | simonrvn | well, i wouldn't say fucking to someone i don't know, but once i got to know them i would ;p |
| 06:02.59 | simonrvn | kspath: hehehe |
| 06:03.35 | simonrvn | i'm just plain bloody honest. if someone can't take it, tough :) |
| 06:03.45 | kspath | simonrvn: I new product is AWESOME. It will increase your profits by Nthousand percent! |
| 06:04.09 | _BlackDragon42 | Sure... |
| 06:04.12 | simonrvn | "yeh? heard that one before. you done yet? i have better things to do." |
| 06:04.21 | kspath | simonrvn: I prefer specifications so sales people annoy me. |
| 06:04.41 | simonrvn | gimme the grist, *i'll* be the judge of that. exactly |
| 06:05.22 | insidius | Well turns out that the customer was given a new static ip about a month ago and all i had to do was request for port 25 to be opened on that ip |
| 06:05.29 | simonrvn | fuck yeh, when i have one come up to me and ask me if i need help i tell them no, thanks. usually because they look at me and think i'll steal something ... |
| 06:05.33 | kspath | simonrvn: I feel sorry for people that sign on for a sales job they finally got and find out the product/service blows goats on a good day. |
| 06:06.00 | simonrvn | insidius: cool |
| 06:06.08 | simonrvn | kspath: for sure |
| 06:06.32 | insidius | Does anyone know of a really really good manual/config guide for teapop and postfix. I want to study them both |
| 06:06.54 | kspath | insidius: postfix web site has some decent stuffs. |
| 06:07.05 | kspath | insidius: teapop? |
| 06:07.19 | simonrvn | a pop3d |
| 06:07.22 | insidius | yeah its a pop client |
| 06:07.28 | insidius | Its whats being used on this server |
| 06:07.28 | simonrvn | oh, client? ok |
| 06:07.52 | jetscreamer | yeah i can't do sales either. i figure they either want it or they don't |
| 06:07.58 | kspath | insidius: pop3 server |
| 06:08.16 | kspath | insidius: as simonrvn said a pop3d |
| 06:08.17 | simonrvn | oh i was right. |
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| 06:08.54 | insidius | oh yeah sorry my fault |
| 06:09.37 | kspath | teapop - Powerful and flexible RFC-compliant POP3 server |
| 06:09.58 | kspath | insidius: Did you look for a teapop website? |
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| 06:10.49 | kspath | insidius: looks like the homepage for teapop is missing in action MIA |
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| 06:13.34 | simonrvn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:13.52 | simonrvn | (lilo) |
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| 06:14.02 | simonrvn | :) |
| 06:14.18 | kspath | insidius: Do you realize if you do study all that stuff you will gain knowledge but at the same time you will be enabling/encouraging the dumas that keep laying off people to believe that they can keep doing it and people will just take up the slack? |
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| 06:16.41 | insidius | My boss is stupid i keep telling him i cant do this shit and he still makes me do it. Lol i dont even get paid that great] |
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| 06:28.17 | jetscreamer | the global notices don't come in #debian? |
| 06:29.13 | jm_ | they never go to channels |
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| 06:30.10 | Supaplex | perl -v shows I have v5.8.7, but dpkg -l perl-base perl perl-modules perl-doc shows I have 5.8.4-8 and 5.8.4-8sarge3 only for perl-doc. why are they all different? There's only one perl in my path, and no aliases. |
| 06:30.11 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 06:33.39 | Supaplex | !botsnack gravity |
| 06:33.39 | dpkg | :), Supaplex |
| 06:33.57 | gravity | :-\ |
| 06:34.57 | Supaplex | heh |
| 06:35.22 | litage | when dealing with headphones, do you want them to have a higher or lower impedance (in ohms)? |
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| 06:36.56 | Daedalus_ | litage: higher typically is better, but that's not always true |
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| 06:37.20 | jm_ | litage: high quality headphones will give you much better sound, regardless of that |
| 06:37.36 | valdyn | litage: this is more a question of the size of those headphones, not quality |
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| 06:38.29 | litage | i'm trying to figure out what the difference is between 2 particular headphones. they're almost identical in terms of specs, except one is 150ohms impedance and the other is 24ohms |
| 06:39.04 | Daedalus_ | litage: what does your amplifier support? |
| 06:39.34 | liable | dang nammit! all ready to pull my laptop to bits, and i cant find my jewelers screwdrivers. |
| 06:39.58 | litage | Daedalus_: no idea...just going to be hooking these headphones up to my compy |
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| 06:42.15 | valdyn | litage: http://www.akg.com/products/product_tipps/powerslave,mynodeid,135,nodeid,1,id,35,_language,EN,pid,254,_view,tips.html |
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| 06:42.20 | liable | seinhausers (prolly spelt wrong) were the shit back in my youth for DJ'ing, very nice headphones. |
| 06:42.39 | rabies | are we under attack? |
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| 06:42.58 | liable | rabies: not at the moment. |
| 06:43.00 | jm_ | Sennheiser are very good yes |
| 06:43.08 | rabies | liable: i see |
| 06:43.47 | litage | thanks guys |
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| 06:50.30 | ircdevil | what is it that lilo is babling about? |
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| 06:51.34 | liable | where for ought thouh my devillish screwdrivers! |
| 06:51.53 | liable | ircdevil: bot attacks |
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| 06:54.16 | tom | hello. i want to forward all incoming packets on eth1 with source-mac-address=00:90:f8:00:f7:04 directly to eth0 WITHOUT changing the mac-address of the packet. how can i do that? |
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| 07:01.00 | ircdevil | liable: *sigh* script kiddies |
| 07:01.01 | Azar | ok I upped to etch and took 2.6.15 kernel, everything ok but my openbox3 lost xterm |
| 07:01.25 | Azar | un-installed openbox, re-installed it but no xterm? |
| 07:01.42 | Azar | no irssi too :( |
| 07:01.46 | nekostar | lol |
| 07:01.54 | nekostar | instead of uninstalling openbox |
| 07:02.00 | nekostar | why not reinstall the ones u lost |
| 07:02.26 | Azar | I have irssi but is not responding to openbox |
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| 07:04.54 | nekostar | Azar, i dont really understand sorry :/ |
| 07:05.14 | nekostar | though i am considering going to etch/// |
| 07:07.35 | liable | ircdevil: indeed. |
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| 07:07.55 | myboxen | evening all |
| 07:08.39 | wireddd | ircdevil, they weren't even good scriptkiddies. the annoybots got stopped with a +R |
| 07:08.45 | liable | grrr. |
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| 07:08.56 | Azar | wtf |
| 07:09.08 | Azar | luckily I can live without a desktop |
| 07:09.26 | Azar | join #openbox |
| 07:09.28 | myboxen | I have a question in regards to mini_commander_applet. I am using testing sarge, kernel 2.6.15, and I get an error when Gnome loads. The bug that I found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=314281 doesn't appear to have a resolution. has anyone ever seen this? |
| 07:09.31 | liable | Azar: you did dist-upgrade of course? |
| 07:09.40 | wireddd | Azar, I had all kinds of problems with 2.6.15 on etch |
| 07:09.43 | Azar | liable sure, everything now is etch |
| 07:09.56 | Azar | well, I can live without X |
| 07:10.00 | liable | !info irssi etch |
| 07:10.06 | dpkg | irssi: (terminal based IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.10-1 (etch), Packaged size: 1003 kB, Installed size: 2688 kB |
| 07:10.17 | liable | Azar: try that |
| 07:10.21 | Azar | irssi is working I am using it now, but in terminal |
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| 07:10.41 | Azar | openbox lost xterm since upgrade |
| 07:10.58 | Azar | I can use firefox, gkrell, but not terminals, no xterm |
| 07:11.00 | bigua | hello, somebody know why in new gdm you cant back to console using ctrl + alt + fx? |
| 07:11.05 | liable | Azar: and xterm is installed? |
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| 07:12.31 | liable | gah, i hate moving. i lose all sorts of shit. |
| 07:12.49 | myboxen | hehe, I know what that feels like |
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| 07:12.55 | itchi | It's slow here sinds there are bots attacks :-( |
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| 07:13.18 | Azar | power to the people! thank you liable |
| 07:13.45 | liable | Azar: heh, glad it works now :) |
| 07:14.00 | Azar | yep this box is ready to rock now |
| 07:14.01 | liable | Azar: now send me a screwdriver! |
| 07:14.07 | Azar | :) |
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| 07:14.48 | Azar | cool thing I did not need to reinstall nvidia driver |
| 07:14.48 | liable | and an m21x3.5 screw :) |
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| 07:15.29 | Azar | wow Guerin is back! |
| 07:15.41 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 07:15.41 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 07:15.45 | tarzeau | !GUERIN |
| 07:15.51 | Azar | mr tarzeau, the box is ready |
| 07:15.54 | liable | Azar: have you missed being larted? :) |
| 07:16.07 | Azar | hehe |
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| 07:17.46 | tarzeau | Azar: great! you will be TEH NM! |
| 07:17.58 | tarzeau | Azar: did you find any software yet that you use, and that's not yet in debian? |
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| 07:21.00 | Azar | http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
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| 07:21.19 | Azar | uh I just updated the box |
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| 07:21.40 | Azar | and how do I fill bugs? or what do I do about packages? |
| 07:21.53 | mr_claus | hi, i'm looking for a xen friendly glibc, are there any packages available? |
| 07:22.05 | itchi | Azar: reportbug?? |
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| 07:22.23 | tarzeau | Azar: check the bts tool |
| 07:22.33 | mr_claus | http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/xen/ should contain packages but there are removed i think |
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| 07:22.36 | tarzeau | Azar: do you know what ITP is? |
| 07:22.44 | tarzeau | Azar: read www.linuks.mine.nu/irc/debian-packaging/ |
| 07:22.56 | Azar | ok |
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| 07:26.25 | Azar | aw |
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| 07:27.22 | Azar | maybe after I learn C |
| 07:28.50 | MatBoy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:29.56 | itchi | MatBoy: Try to place it in another slot and look if it give the same problem |
| 07:30.19 | MatBoy | itchi: Same problem than, can't solve it that way |
| 07:30.53 | tarzeau | Azar: have you read k&r yet? |
| 07:31.04 | itchi | MatBoy: I not know then |
| 07:31.13 | liable | for a bit of light reading. |
| 07:31.48 | MatBoy | itchi: It's a very strange problem. The nic is allright and works great with Knoppix. I think it's Debian :( |
| 07:32.06 | Azar | tarzeau, I have it but is hard... I am using a beginner's guide to C |
| 07:32.37 | Azar | I need to understand terminology first |
| 07:32.42 | itchi | MatBoy: With which kernel have you ? the default one? |
| 07:33.13 | EruditeHermit | hi, can anyone help me with this http://rafb.net/paste/results/5taTs582.html |
| 07:33.25 | liable | EruditeHermit: still going? |
| 07:33.30 | EruditeHermit | liable: yep |
| 07:33.35 | liable | bugger |
| 07:33.39 | EruditeHermit | no one knows |
| 07:33.46 | MatBoy | itchi, I boot with the 2.6 kernel |
| 07:33.47 | EruditeHermit | there is no solution |
| 07:34.00 | EruditeHermit | liable: I am stuck at 2.3.6-5 |
| 07:34.11 | EruditeHermit | anything before that works |
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| 07:34.27 | itchi | MatBoy: have you try with the older one? |
| 07:34.48 | liable | EruditeHermit: you running etch oe sid? |
| 07:34.53 | EruditeHermit | liable: sid |
| 07:35.06 | MatBoy | itchi: yep, same proplem |
| 07:35.07 | EruditeHermit | liable: I have an etch box that today upgraded to 2.3.6-7 |
| 07:35.11 | MatBoy | problem |
| 07:35.14 | EruditeHermit | liable: and that went without a hitch |
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| 07:35.43 | EruditeHermit | liable: but the sid box is stuck |
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| 07:35.54 | rohan | lol, who made this page ? http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060419 |
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| 07:36.00 | liable | EruditeHermit: sucks. |
| 07:36.03 | EruditeHermit | liable: does libc6 need anything in order to work? |
| 07:36.22 | wireddd | rohan, nice find |
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| 07:36.43 | itchi | MatBoy: I not know how to solve it. I guess you need that networkcard for the netinstall |
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| 07:37.10 | EruditeHermit | liable: one more thing, libc6 will upgrade seemingly ok on a chroot knoppix but when I try to boot into it, I get errors about unable to find lib<something>.so when I try to run anything |
| 07:37.15 | rohan | wireddd: :) |
| 07:37.21 | MatBoy | itchi: Yes I need it for that indeed. The problem is when I attach my Matrox after installing... I get the same problem again. |
| 07:37.24 | liable | EruditeHermit: have you tried removing set -e from the script |
| 07:37.39 | EruditeHermit | liable: nope, where should I do that? |
| 07:37.47 | wireddd | everyone needs to look at that page rohan posted real quick and try and spot the error |
| 07:37.54 | itchi | MatBoy: The gfx are an agp one? |
| 07:38.38 | liable | EruditeHermit: /var/lib/dpkg/info the post-remove script |
| 07:38.45 | MatBoy | itchi: I have a PCI-e (6600LE) and the Matrox that is a PCI-version |
| 07:39.03 | MatBoy | itchi: With the 2.4 kernel I get a red error screen on the Nic |
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| 07:40.04 | EruditeHermit | liable: same problem |
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| 07:40.57 | wireddd | so when is april 0th? |
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| 07:42.14 | itchi | wireddd: I guest typo errno and forget the 1 before the 0?? |
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| 07:42.38 | wireddd | it looks like it should be the 19th |
| 07:42.50 | MrNaz | i just got the message "non-latin1 character 0x393 found in JFS file system" how do i diagnose this? how do i find what file it is? and how do i make sure its not a drive error |
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| 07:43.43 | MatBoy | itchi: I'm going to try ubuntu, I hope that it is a nice OS |
| 07:43.47 | itchi | wireddd: Right, i did not open my eyes and see it now in the url lol ;-) |
| 07:44.02 | itchi | MatBoy: If you want |
| 07:44.20 | liable | EruditeHermit: have you tried cleaning cache, re-installing ,ibc6 and then updateing? |
| 07:44.30 | itchi | MatBoy: It's not by escaping you're problem that i would be solved!!! |
| 07:44.39 | Azar | gaahhh briquolo is not in testing |
| 07:44.56 | EruditeHermit | liable: yep |
| 07:45.07 | simonrvn | -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi folks. Our problem child is back. You'll probably want to use +R for a few more hours. Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks. |
| 07:45.18 | EruditeHermit | liable: i've tried upgrading to 2.3.6-6 as well as 2.3.6-7, both fail |
| 07:45.31 | EruditeHermit | liable: anything prior to 2.3.6-5 however works |
| 07:45.38 | liable | EruditeHermit: ok, try setting +x on the scripts |
| 07:45.50 | liable | EruditeHermit: then run by hand. |
| 07:45.55 | itchi | MatBoy: I can not help you, it's a bit slow here today, ask again here and wait before to try ubuntu |
| 07:46.35 | MatBoy | itchi: The strange problem is that Knoppix works very fine with all the cards in it. |
| 07:46.55 | itchi | MatBoy: I guess it's an simple problem that i not know |
| 07:46.58 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.01 | tarzeau | WTF? |
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| 07:47.16 | tarzeau | Azar: !simple sid backport |
| 07:47.20 | itchi | liable: Can you help MatBoy ? |
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| 07:47.38 | itchi | liable: I'm to dumb about that topic |
| 07:47.44 | tarzeau | Azar: i made a backports.org but nobse thinks it must wait 10 days |
| 07:47.50 | tarzeau | Azar: before people can use it |
| 07:48.02 | EruditeHermit | liable: so I run preinst, postrm, then postinst? |
| 07:48.07 | tarzeau | Azar: really use sid, don't upgrade daily, nor weekly |
| 07:48.16 | liable | itchi: i'm too dumb too! :) |
| 07:48.18 | tarzeau | Azar: only install software you need (like briquolo in this case) |
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| 07:48.44 | itchi | MatBoy: Don't give up man!!! |
| 07:48.54 | tarzeau | # ls -la /usr/include/netrom/netrom.h |
| 07:48.55 | tarzeau | ?--------- 65280 65280 4278190080 65535 Jan 1 1970 /usr/include/netrom/netrom.h |
| 07:49.04 | tarzeau | is something wrong with this file? |
| 07:49.04 | liable | EruditeHermit: try the new preinst first |
| 07:49.08 | MatBoy | itchi: No I won't :) But I really want to use my new system now :D |
| 07:49.11 | itchi | liable: You can not know all. But i know that you know many thinks |
| 07:49.31 | MatBoy | I was always using Debian on my laptop, worked perfectly, also with Centrino + Stepping |
| 07:49.33 | Azar | um I guess I will install sid better |
| 07:49.46 | itchi | MatBoy: Play a bit with Knoppix an day or 2. It's not so urgent! |
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| 07:50.15 | MatBoy | itchi: played already 3 days with it... it irritates me now :p |
| 07:50.24 | EruditeHermit | liable: its not working |
| 07:50.28 | itchi | MatBoy: You are an patient boy |
| 07:50.38 | MatBoy | itchi: Normally I am indeed :) |
| 07:50.49 | liable | EruditeHermit: no hints? paste it? |
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| 07:51.08 | MatBoy | liable: can it be a bug in the last Debian-release ? |
| 07:51.29 | tarzeau | MatBoy: there is no last debian release |
| 07:51.36 | tarzeau | MatBoy: etch's coming in december 2006 |
| 07:51.36 | EruditeHermit | liable: it doesn't say anything, the scripts just run |
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| 07:51.48 | itchi | tarzeau: So you not update many you're sid to aviod troubles? |
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| 07:51.53 | liable | EruditeHermit: with set -x? |
| 07:51.59 | EruditeHermit | liable: yep |
| 07:52.00 | liable | EruditeHermit: they dont say anything? |
| 07:52.07 | EruditeHermit | liable: nope |
| 07:52.13 | tarzeau | itchi: no i don't upgrade because of lazyness. and i do update many, since i want many new software |
| 07:52.18 | tarzeau | itchi: but i be careful |
| 07:52.22 | tarzeau | itchi: the dragons no bite me |
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| 07:52.50 | jonas21 | hmm, that was quite an adventure |
| 07:52.50 | EruditeHermit | liable: maybe I am doing it wrong, but this is what I am doing: I do dpkg -i libc6_blahfoo.deb then it fails, then I run postrm script and postinst |
| 07:52.55 | itchi | tarzeau: I guess you're an game freak? |
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| 07:53.07 | tarzeau | itchi: not only, yes |
| 07:53.11 | jonas21 | i must say that even when something seems broken there are easy fixes |
| 07:53.15 | jonas21 | i speak of nvidia-kernel-source |
| 07:53.45 | jonas21 | and the lack of a binary nvidia-kernel package for the newest nvidia-glx in sid |
| 07:53.49 | itchi | tarzeau: But nice you do that on Debian ;-) and not M$ |
| 07:53.57 | Braindead | and the cause of breakage is most of the time responsability of nvidia... |
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| 07:54.07 | liable | EruditeHermit: just run the preint from the term |
| 07:54.11 | jonas21 | the breakage i speak of isnt, i don't think |
| 07:54.27 | jonas21 | the upgrade to the split xorg 7 put a bunch of stuff out to pasture |
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| 07:55.03 | EruditeHermit | liable: the one in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ? |
| 07:55.16 | EruditeHermit | liable: I did that too, and it didn't return anything |
| 07:55.17 | jonas21 | so i wonder if X will start when i get to work tomorrow ^__^; |
| 07:55.44 | tarzeau | liable: funny video link you gave me |
| 07:55.57 | liable | EruditeHermit: open the file in $EDITOR and change set -e to set -x, then run that script from terminal |
| 07:56.11 | liable | tarzeau: very lubricated! |
| 07:56.34 | Shadur | jonas21: There *was* a dependency problem with the second latest nvidia-glx, but it got fixed by the latest. And nvidia-kernel-source compiiles just fine. |
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| 07:57.31 | liable | EruditeHermit: i dont know what the hell is going on for you, but no one else does either. hopefully this will give a clue. |
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| 07:58.37 | cge | Err, concept10 in #ubuntu is asking about why is banned from #debian. Does anyone have an explanation I can give him? |
| 07:59.05 | EruditeHermit | liable: preinst http://rafb.net/paste/results/kMgDN225.html |
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| 07:59.27 | liable | cge: tell him to /msg dondelelcaro is prolly the best advice (or one of the other ops) |
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| 07:59.36 | cge | liable, thanks |
| 07:59.53 | EruditeHermit | liable: postrm http://rafb.net/paste/results/QiiC9286.html |
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| 08:00.59 | EruditeHermit | liable: postinst http://rafb.net/paste/results/ABLzSp16.html |
| 08:02.44 | wireddd | cge, concept10 has an address that is similar to a bot that a script kiddie was using to flood the channel earlier today |
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| 08:03.10 | cge | wireddd, I see. You might want to msg him about it. |
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| 08:04.19 | wishkah | i have a running debian system with a second IDE HDD in it on which I want to install another debian system (without rebooting on the debian CD), is that possible? how? |
| 08:04.34 | wishkah | some chroot hacking? |
| 08:05.03 | itchi | wishkah: yes; or use virtual machines like vmware or qemu |
| 08:05.14 | liable | EruditeHermit: ln -s libdl-2.3.2.so libdl.so.2 ?? |
| 08:05.29 | wishkah | how'd I do that with chroot? |
| 08:05.30 | PaulNizan | q |
| 08:05.50 | wishkah | mount the CD image, chroot into it and execute the autorun manually? sounds ugly... |
| 08:06.00 | EruditeHermit | liable: yeah I did that, but it was libdl-2.3.6.so libdl.so.2 |
| 08:06.07 | tarzeau | wishkah: debootstrap |
| 08:06.29 | EruditeHermit | liable: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 2006-04-19 00:56 /lib/libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.3.6.so |
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| 08:07.24 | wishkah | tarzeau: sounds like exactly what I want, thanks |
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| 08:09.00 | wireddd | can someone remove the ban on *!*@*hsd1.*.comcast.net since we have the channel set to +R anyway? |
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| 08:09.49 | wireddd | it is a little broad |
| 08:10.12 | Vyrus001 | i understand that the rd.%N folders are callled by init.d but is there some config file that i can use of a list of things that are loaded on boot up and in what order so that i can edit that list ? |
| 08:10.50 | tarzeau | wireddd: try with !ops whatever |
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| 08:12.54 | sep | Vyrus001, inside rc2.d there are symlinks to init.d, the symlinkes are names S00.... S01..... S = Start and 00 is before 01 |
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| 08:13.51 | sep | Vyrus001, so you can just rename the symlink if you awnt it to start earlier or later ( or use the tool update-rc.d ) |
| 08:13.52 | raceme | is it normal to have new security packages for cyrus21, tar, libc6, rssh, perl, locales and mutt which are not announced neither in the security announce mailing-list nor the security website ? |
| 08:13.53 | liable | EruditeHermit: with those scripts all set +x does apt/dpkg give any more info? |
| 08:14.01 | Vyrus001 | ic |
| 08:14.07 | tom | where can i ask questions about networking? |
| 08:14.14 | Vyrus001 | sep, and if i remove them does that stop them from starting ? |
| 08:14.32 | sep | tom man interfaces or ##networking if it's general networking related |
| 08:14.40 | sep | Vyrus001, yes |
| 08:14.50 | Vyrus001 | cool |
| 08:14.53 | Vyrus001 | thanx |
| 08:14.54 | wireddd | !ops can someone remove the ban on *!*@*hsd1.*.comcast.net since the channel is set to +R anyway? |
| 08:14.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: can someone remove the ban on *!*@*hsd1.*.comcast.net since the channel is set to +R anyway |
| 08:14.56 | sep | Vyrus001, man update-rc.d |
| 08:15.23 | EruditeHermit | liable: http://rafb.net/paste/results/pb7IvP44.html |
| 08:15.25 | EruditeHermit | liable: it looks the same |
| 08:15.30 | jm_ | raceme: which version of mutt, tar and libc6? |
| 08:15.46 | jm_ | raceme: are you using Sarge? |
| 08:16.09 | raceme | jm_: yes it is sarge |
| 08:16.45 | raceme | jm_: mutt/stable upgradeable from 1.5.9-2 to 1.5.9-2sarge1; tar/stable upgradeable from 1.14-2.1 to 1.14-2.2; libc6/stable upgradeable from 2.3.2.ds1-22 to 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 |
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| 08:18.15 | sep | raceme, the packages will allways be uploaded to the security.debian.org before the announcement. doing it the other way is counterproductive :) |
| 08:18.51 | raceme | sep: i was wondering as is is a little bit scary to find so many updates since yesterday without announcement |
| 08:20.13 | sep | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.45 | sep | raceme, use apt-cache policy packaegname to see where the install candidaet is coming from |
| 08:20.49 | jm_ | raceme: I'd say someone screwed up, these are not security upgrades |
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| 08:21.22 | benj | moo |
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| 08:23.26 | raceme | jm_: but there is upgrades which are not part of security ? is this announced anywhere ? |
| 08:24.23 | raceme | sep: yes I forgot to check with a-c policy... |
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| 08:25.12 | raceme | it seems that there is a release of a r2 of sarge in progress: tar [1.14-2.1] (1.14-2.2 Debian:3.1r2/stable) |
| 08:25.23 | jm_ | raceme: look at the changelogs, you'll see they're not from security team |
| 08:25.59 | jm_ | raceme: wait, yes there is, that's it, I forgot about it |
| 08:26.22 | jm_ | raceme: r2 notice mentiones these three packages |
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| 08:26.45 | jm_ | it would be highly unusual for it to not be noticed ;) |
| 08:26.55 | tarzeau | heys suse 10 has a cute snowflakes screensaver! |
| 08:27.01 | tarzeau | i want that too! |
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| 08:27.14 | raceme | jm_: do you know where I can find the r2 notice ? in fact I thought that once sarge is released only security team can upgrade packages... |
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| 08:28.35 | liable | tarzeau: sure. install suse10 |
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| 08:28.58 | jm_ | raceme: it was sent to the announce list, see http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060419 |
| 08:29.31 | jm_ | raceme: this has happened in the past too, I remember Mozilla upgrade, but it's so rare it's easy to forget about it |
| 08:30.19 | raceme | jm_: so I should subscribe to the announce list :) |
| 08:30.49 | jm_ | raceme: up to you |
| 08:31.26 | raceme | jm_: indeed... i don't like to see new packages from nowhere so I'll subscribe to announce... thanks for explanations... |
| 08:31.41 | jm_ | raceme: luckily it was you who reminded us of r2 update ;) |
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| 08:32.19 | tarzeau | liable: can i not just have yast2? |
| 08:32.43 | liable | tarzeau: sure, alien the rpm. |
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| 08:36.29 | tarzeau | liable: we get our computers with suse preinstalled... just done a rm -rf / |
| 08:36.35 | tarzeau | liable: pity rpm -e rpm doesn't work anymore |
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| 08:37.03 | liable | tarzeau: why? i thought you wanted the pretty screen saver? |
| 08:37.07 | EruditeHermit | liable: any ideas? |
| 08:37.23 | tarzeau | liable: it's cute. but my homepage is even more cute and pretty |
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| 08:37.41 | liable | EruditeHermit: still trying to think, but brain is failing. |
| 08:37.55 | EruditeHermit | liable: well thanks for helping btw |
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| 08:38.01 | liable | tarzeau: yes, i have linuks.pony.com |
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| 08:41.31 | tremor | is it enough, to copy the desired configfile from /boot to /usr/src/.. to recompile the kernel and keep the configuration from the kernel but also get additional drivers installed after a 'make && make modules_install'? |
| 08:41.44 | tarzeau | tremor: no |
| 08:41.54 | tarzeau | tremor: you'll want to rename it to .config and run make oldconfig |
| 08:42.01 | tarzeau | tremor: you most probably also want to not use initrd |
| 08:42.29 | tremor | ah,thank you .. oops, i didnt took care of initrd |
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| 08:42.40 | tremor | i try to compile the acx module atm |
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| 08:44.45 | tremor | so after that steps (the copy of the config file and the make oldconfig) .. make modules_install i like to run |
| 08:45.04 | tremor | do i have to run the initrd tool? |
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| 08:45.28 | Braindead | tremor: no. no no no. NO. wanna acx modules? use module-assistant,it's automagical. and comes with a free pony |
| 08:46.22 | tremor | AH .. thank you |
| 08:46.22 | tremor | i'll test it |
| 08:46.22 | tremor | brb |
| 08:46.53 | tremor | i read that but missunderstood that @ module_assistant |
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| 08:49.36 | liable | EruditeHermit: tried dpkg-deb -x and copy? |
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| 08:51.47 | MatBoy | ichi: I found the problem. |
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| 08:52.09 | liable | MatBoy: what was it? |
| 08:52.23 | EruditeHermit | liable: yep |
| 08:52.33 | EruditeHermit | liable: then I get errors when I try to run ANY program |
| 08:52.43 | MatBoy | I have set the IRQ's on auto, changed the SB and Nic place and I had to use Testing in this setup |
| 08:52.49 | MatBoy | Testing did the trick |
| 08:53.24 | EruditeHermit | liable: stuff like, unable to open libcrypt.so.1 when trying to login with su |
| 08:53.43 | EruditeHermit | liable: unable to open/find libdl.so |
| 08:53.47 | EruditeHermit | liable: stuff like that |
| 08:53.50 | MatBoy | ichi: Stable was not working that way |
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| 08:54.08 | NoRC` | Whats a good Partition manager with a GUI? |
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| 08:54.58 | onispawn | is there anyway to revert the dselect package selection state? |
| 08:55.17 | liable | EruditeHermit: you need some heavy duty help :) |
| 08:55.31 | MatBoy | NoRC`: Just download UBCD |
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| 08:55.54 | EruditeHermit | liable: any idea who? when are these people around? |
| 08:56.09 | NoRC` | UBCD = ? |
| 08:56.31 | Braindead | NoRC`: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query= |
| 08:56.37 | Braindead | NoRC`: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=UBCD |
| 08:57.28 | liable | EruditeHermit: there are smart people here, whether they want to help with such problems i dunno.(you know the usual sid story..) i would try the ML |
| 08:57.49 | MatBoy | nofl |
| 08:57.52 | MatBoy | damn |
| 08:58.00 | MatBoy | NoRC`: Ultimate BootCD |
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| 08:58.14 | Braindead | NoRC`: anyway that's parted + [g|qt]parted what you're looking for |
| 08:58.24 | NoRC` | cool |
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| 08:58.27 | NoRC` | so download n burn eh |
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| 08:58.32 | |MementoMori| | hi all |
| 08:58.33 | GutterPunk | Hi |
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| 08:58.43 | GutterPunk | Is it safe to delete all the stuff in /var/log? |
| 08:58.47 | EruditeHermit | liable: thanks for the effort =), I appreciate your time |
| 08:59.03 | EruditeHermit | liable: I'll try the ML in the morning |
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| 08:59.13 | EruditeHermit | liable: gnight |
| 08:59.21 | NoRC` | ok aside from googling "INSERT" What are they reffering to with that on the UBCD site? |
| 08:59.23 | liable | EruditeHermit: yw. good luck, wish i could help. let us know when you figure it out. |
| 08:59.26 | jelly-ho | GutterPunk: all the rotated stuff, yes. Not sure about the currently active logs. |
| 08:59.33 | zrin | does anyone of you experience faulty output in xterm since last etch updates? e.g. in aptitude? |
| 08:59.40 | MatBoy | ichi: ? |
| 08:59.50 | jengelh | zrin: what if you start xterm with +u8 or -u8 option? |
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| 09:00.42 | zrin | jengelh: i'll try, but it is more like not refreshing, so that white selection stripe remains visible right of the text when selection moves... |
| 09:00.56 | Braindead | NoRC`: at least follow the links,FFS |
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| 09:01.16 | Braindead | About INSERT seems quite explainatory |
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| 09:02.07 | zrin | jengelh: bingo, the problem goes away with -u8 |
| 09:02.14 | jengelh | hah |
| 09:02.16 | |MementoMori| | i need your help in order to install debian sarge (r1) on a (very) old pc. This pc hasnt cdrom. I already have boot and root floppies... what also i need to have a minimal debian installation? |
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| 09:02.31 | jengelh | zrin: You need to set the rest of your system to use UTF8 then |
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| 09:02.46 | zrin | jengelh: kernel NLS setting? |
| 09:02.52 | jengelh | Nope, it's all in userspace. |
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| 09:03.07 | zrin | jengelh: locale? |
| 09:03.07 | jengelh | man locale |
| 09:03.13 | zrin | set |
| 09:03.14 | jengelh | and thelike |
| 09:03.23 | liable | |MementoMori|: it has ethernet? |
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| 09:03.26 | jengelh | what, LC_COLLATE is like "en_US.UTF-8" ? |
| 09:03.33 | |MementoMori| | liable: yes it has |
| 09:03.37 | zrin | jengelh: I have LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 09:03.50 | jengelh | LANG is not the same as LC_* |
| 09:04.17 | jengelh | http://rafb.net/paste/results/oXZDe131.html -- my locales |
| 09:04.28 | jengelh | esp LC_CTYPE is important (not LC_COLLATE...) |
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| 09:04.31 | zrin | jengelh: thank you! |
| 09:04.54 | jengelh | you do want POSIX in these places. |
| 09:05.18 | liable | |MementoMori|: got the net-drivers one? |
| 09:05.41 | blenda | hmm... not sure if my message got through: i'm looking for a free virtual machine so i can run windows from inside gnu/linux. so far i've found xen and bochs. anyone's got any opinions about them? |
| 09:05.56 | Braindead | blenda: qemu |
| 09:06.04 | |MementoMori| | liable: the eth is recognized without the net floppy... |
| 09:06.35 | liable | |MementoMori|: so whats the problem? |
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| 09:06.55 | NoRC` | heheh nero for linux |
| 09:07.07 | |MementoMori| | liable: what i need more? |
| 09:07.09 | blenda | Braindead: thanks for the recommendation! have you tried it yourself? |
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| 09:07.13 | NoRC` | is there a better app than nero to sue in debian for burnin? |
| 09:07.23 | jengelh | cdrecord-proDVD? |
| 09:07.24 | jelly-ho | blenda: vmware is free (as in free beer) |
| 09:07.33 | Tidus | NoRC`: k3b |
| 09:07.50 | blenda | jelly-ho: ok, i prefer free as in free speech :) |
| 09:07.54 | liable | jelly-ho: where do i get free beer? |
| 09:07.54 | NoRC` | has anyone looked at qemu? |
| 09:07.55 | blenda | NoRC`: i like k3b |
| 09:07.58 | MatBoy | Does someone know if the 3com NIC's with 3XP processor are doing everything automaticly dedicated ? Or do I need to compile this or install a different driver for these cards ? |
| 09:08.04 | |MementoMori| | liable: there is a minimal cd iso to do installation step from my lan? |
| 09:08.22 | Braindead | blenda: "it works" |
| 09:08.27 | jelly-ho | liable: tanstaafb |
| 09:08.29 | tremor | now i can load the acx module but it dont recognizes the card. lspcmcia dont lists the card. hm |
| 09:08.38 | blenda | Braindead: sounds great, i'll try it :) |
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| 09:08.39 | liable | |MementoMori|: you can just install from the net |
| 09:08.47 | tremor | i followed the instructions about firmeware etc |
| 09:08.50 | liable | jelly-ho: where is that? |
| 09:09.23 | tremor | any suggestions, about how to check, if the acx-module is the right one and works? |
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| 09:09.28 | jelly-ho | liable: It's an acronym. |
| 09:09.44 | liable | jelly-ho: standing for what? |
| 09:09.49 | |MementoMori| | liable: but if something goes wrong i need to download from internet again and again...... Can I download only once? |
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| 09:10.00 | jelly-ho | liable: there is no such thing as a free beer |
| 09:10.28 | jelly-ho | liable: that said, free beerage is not only a function of space, but of time as well. |
| 09:10.29 | liable | jelly-ho: no shit! i wish people would stop saying the free as in beer thing :) |
| 09:10.35 | Braindead | tremor: I'm assuming you've placed the firmware files where it's needed. and I'm assuming you Read The Fine Manual |
| 09:10.56 | liable | |MementoMori|: just do it. |
| 09:11.25 | jelly-ho | liable: use a language that doesn't have that particular ambiguity then. ;-) |
| 09:11.30 | tremor | Braindead: i hope, i did so. i placed the firmware in /lib/firmware and named it tiacx111c16 |
| 09:11.46 | tremor | also edited /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:11.52 | liable | jelly-ho: its the only one i almost know :( |
| 09:12.16 | jelly-ho | liable: ah. the pain of a native speaker. |
| 09:12.23 | liable | heh |
| 09:12.24 | tremor | and edited the alias in /etc/modutils/linux-wlan-ng |
| 09:13.16 | jelly-ho | liable: in my language free and free are two words. However we have only one word for time, weather and tense(n). Go figure. |
| 09:13.23 | Braindead | tremor: linux-wlan-ng and acx-100 are 2 different things... |
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| 09:14.17 | liable | jelly-ho: yes, its a retarded language. and mostly i dont mind. except when people say beer is free! :) |
| 09:14.22 | tremor | Braindead: i followed the steps described here: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Distribution_list/Debian |
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| 09:14.56 | zrin | jelly-ho: is it a slavic language? |
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| 09:15.00 | tremor | and i can load this module now, but wlan0 wont come up |
| 09:15.11 | jelly-ho | zrin: e-yup! |
| 09:15.21 | zrin | jelly-ho: ok :) |
| 09:15.26 | tremor | and the card i own, is listed on the device list |
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| 09:17.27 | NoRC` | Tidus : That k3b is nice |
| 09:17.36 | NoRC` | thanks for pointin me in that direction |
| 09:17.39 | zrin | liable: how does 'freedom software' sound for a native speaker? :) |
| 09:17.44 | tarzeau | which driver supports 8086:1064: 82562ET/EZ/GT/GZ - PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller ? |
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| 09:18.05 | zrin | tarzeau: intel? |
| 09:18.06 | jelly-ho | tarzeau: sounds like e100. |
| 09:18.11 | tarzeau | zrin: yes |
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| 09:18.21 | zrin | tarzeau: could be e100 |
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| 09:18.41 | chendo | hey, i'm trying to get pure-ftpd working, but when a client MLSD's, it just hangs and times out |
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| 09:19.07 | liable | zrin: i dont mind people saying free software, i just hate it when they say that its 'free as in beer', because it makes absolutely no sense to me. :) |
| 09:19.26 | zrin | liable: you do not like beer? ;) |
| 09:19.41 | NoRC` | Whats the go with VMWare? |
| 09:19.50 | liable | zrin: i *love* beer. and unfortunately, i never get it for free.. |
| 09:20.02 | NoRC` | You what set it up on your debian box and boot a windoze partition or something inside it? |
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| 09:20.21 | zrin | NoRC`: get vmware server |
| 09:20.28 | MatBoy | NoRC`: K3B is better than perfect :D |
| 09:20.43 | zrin | NoRC`: then you can connect to the guest OS remotely |
| 09:21.03 | zrin | NoRC`: for freebeer ;) |
| 09:21.50 | NoRC` | when u say guest OS, what you mean? |
| 09:22.21 | zrin | NoRC`: for example win* running "inside" vmware |
| 09:22.49 | NoRC` | zrin , would i need to re-install win or can i just get VMWare to look at my windows partition? |
| 09:23.48 | raceme | NoRC`: usually if you don't reinstall you'll have problems with drivers as hardware emulated inside vmware is different than you real hardware |
| 09:23.55 | zrin | NoRC`: better make one additional clean install for vmware which you can copy then |
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| 09:24.14 | NoRC` | what about qemu? |
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| 09:25.19 | zrin | NoRC`: my current setup is etch amd64 with vmware on SMP, then other OSs as virtual machines to which i connect remotely |
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| 09:26.26 | zrin | I love copying computers with few mouseclicks :) |
| 09:26.45 | NoRC` | so you'd recommend vmware |
| 09:27.20 | zrin | yes I can, but it depends on what you want to do with/inside virtual machines |
| 09:27.29 | NoRC` | play Guild Wars lol |
| 09:28.09 | NoRC` | i have a duel boot setup atm... but it'd be nice not to have to reboot if i dont have too. I mean i dont really mind... but yeh |
| 09:28.12 | zrin | NoRC`: well then ... :) I don't know about this particular game |
| 09:28.30 | NoRC` | Would BF2 run? |
| 09:28.38 | NoRC` | Better yet can u tell me what game would.. |
| 09:29.14 | zrin | NoRC`: unfortunately I don't have time to play comp games, and my doctor also says I shouldn't... :( |
| 09:29.24 | MatBoy | Does someone use the Nvidia drivers with good success ? |
| 09:29.29 | NoRC` | You're doc says u shouldn't.... |
| 09:29.32 | raceme | NoRC`: a game in vmware ? I'm not sure that'll work but I'm not very aware of the evolution of vmware since years... |
| 09:29.43 | NoRC` | MatBoy , odd you mention that... I just installed them today and they worked like a charm. |
| 09:29.51 | NoRC` | Altho i didnt use the ones from nvidia.com |
| 09:29.55 | zrin | NoRC`: to much keyboard and mouse and sitting in front of monitor is not healthy |
| 09:30.09 | MatBoy | NoRC`: have you used a howto for it ? |
| 09:30.09 | NoRC` | hour a day wont kill you |
| 09:30.41 | NoRC` | nah just the one liner from apt |
| 09:30.48 | zrin | NoRC`: but 14 a day could :( |
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| 09:31.15 | NoRC` | !nvidia |
| 09:31.16 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 09:31.36 | NoRC` | just use the one-liner thats what i did... nice n easy and im a total n00b |
| 09:31.38 | zrin | NoRC`: btw I've heared some japanese or korean child dropped dead after playing for like 3 days |
| 09:31.54 | NoRC` | zrin ... come again?? Where did u hear that lol |
| 09:32.07 | NoRC` | ubcd is almost downloaded yay |
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| 09:32.58 | Dj_Spy | quick question, where does debian stores the info like, which packages to be removed? because The following packages will be REMOVED: .... but those are allready removed but keeps nagging about it |
| 09:33.02 | zrin | NoRC`: I've heared they go to internet cafe, play, eat chips and do not sleep for days |
| 09:33.03 | MatBoy | OK, how am I going to ask the channel about the installer ? |
| 09:33.15 | MatBoy | I had indeed bad experience with the nvidia.com installer ;) |
| 09:33.31 | NoRC` | MatBoy: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 09:33.54 | sep | !tell MatBoy about nvidia |
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| 09:34.07 | NoRC` | sep thats how ya do it... *makes mental note* |
| 09:34.36 | MatBoy | thank you very much !! |
| 09:34.41 | MatBoy | I'm a IRC noob :D |
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| 09:35.01 | sep | !tell MatBoy about msgdpkg |
| 09:35.56 | MatBoy | sep: Thnx... I was already playing with it ;) |
| 09:36.01 | Dj_Spy | anyone? |
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| 09:37.15 | NoRC` | Dj_Spy whats the question |
| 09:37.25 | Dj_Spy | quick question, where does debian stores the info like, which packages to be removed? because The following packages will be REMOVED: .... but those are allready removed but keeps nagging about it |
| 09:37.29 | sep | Dj_Spy, in a database you dont mess with that manually. if it tries to remove some package all the time it obviouslt dont succeed in removing it. observe the errors and fix it |
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| 09:38.32 | Dj_Spy | yeah it says : |
| 09:38.32 | Dj_Spy | Removing wfrench ... |
| 09:38.33 | Dj_Spy | /var/lib/dpkg/info/wfrench.postrm: line 6: /usr/sbin/remove-default-wordlist: No such file or directory |
| 09:38.45 | RichiH | i need a suggestion for a virtual server hosting provider in the USA which is located near one of the larger internet exchanges. west coast preferred |
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| 09:42.32 | crov | Hi all, is it safe to download latest kernel "linux-2.6.16.tar.gz" i think this one is latest?, and compile on Debian 3.1r1 |
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| 09:42.44 | RichiH | crov: yes |
| 09:43.03 | RichiH | crov: you can get the debian kernel sources too, though |
| 09:43.25 | liable | crov: if you are gonna compile, just get it from kernel.org |
| 09:43.26 | sep | crov, and if you use a backport.org kernel you save the compiling bit |
| 09:43.58 | crov | RichiH i only get 2.6.8 and a.6.8-16sarge2 (when using apt-get install kernel-source-2.6 |
| 09:44.15 | crov | sep: dont know what is "backport.org" let me check :) |
| 09:44.29 | RichiH | crov: i would second sep's suggestion |
| 09:44.53 | crov | sep is this correct url? |
| 09:45.29 | crov | RichiH first to try from kernel.org then if not success from backport.org? |
| 09:46.27 | crov | Sarge r2 is out, hmmm is that mean now will be Debian 3.1.r2? |
| 09:46.30 | liable | !backports |
| 09:46.31 | dpkg | hmm... backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 09:46.36 | liable | crov: yes |
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| 09:47.10 | crov | liable thnx for link, hmm :) no official news about 3.1.r2? |
| 09:47.34 | zrin | is there something like base-config in etch? |
| 09:47.54 | NoRC` | mmmm debian is fun |
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| 09:48.04 | NoRC` | i dont mind gnome as a desktop interface |
| 09:48.07 | liable | crov: yes, there is, cant find the link though |
| 09:48.11 | NoRC` | windows is just too easy to get goin... |
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| 09:48.22 | crov | liable heh i am also looking for it.. :) |
| 09:48.27 | Ronin | NoRC`: so is debian |
| 09:48.35 | liable | zrin: only whilst installing. its now a udeb and not available after install |
| 09:48.38 | Ronin | usually :) |
| 09:48.57 | crov | liable: yesterday i instal 3.1r1, but as i didnt config anything i wonna try 3.1r2 trought |
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| 09:49.21 | liable | crov: you dont need to do anything. just do an upgrade with apt |
| 09:49.43 | liable | crov: its just a couple of new packages |
| 09:49.52 | liable | s/new/updated/ |
| 09:50.23 | crov | liable well i am installing it on "xbox", and i am doing netinstall (not big for download and so) and new install inst problem, just need to find netinstall iso :) |
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| 09:51.38 | NoRC` | ok off to try this ubcd |
| 09:51.44 | NoRC` | if i return i didnt stuff anything up lol |
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| 09:55.48 | amee2k | how can i scroll line by line in nano? |
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| 09:56.24 | RichiH | amee2k: the up & down arrows? |
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| 09:56.51 | amee2k | yea, but when i reach the top or bottom of the screen it scrolls by half a page every time |
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| 09:57.35 | amee2k | unfortunately the part i want to fit on the screen has a page boundary exactly in the middle :( |
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| 09:58.55 | amee2k | n/m, found it. run with -S enables smooth scrolling :) |
| 10:00.21 | Dj_Spy | wow, you guys helped me without I had to ask a question ^^ , thanks for the backports hint, solved my problem :) |
| 10:00.32 | kombi | awstats_buildstaticpages.pl just builds one page, why might that be? |
| 10:00.50 | crov | How to i update 3.1.r1a(netinstall) to latest r2 with apt-get? "apt-get update" or? |
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| 10:01.32 | amee2k | if anything, "upgrade" |
| 10:01.38 | sep | crov, first update then upgrade |
| 10:01.53 | amee2k | but better read the docs for apt-get. never did an upgrade |
| 10:01.58 | kombi | anyone using awstats at all? |
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| 10:02.05 | sep | kombi, maaaany |
| 10:02.15 | crov | sap thnx |
| 10:02.16 | Vyrus001 | is there a way to compile a 3rd party module into a kernel build ? |
| 10:02.37 | kombi | sep: how do you build all the report pages from cmd line? |
| 10:03.16 | sep | 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * www-data [ -x /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -a -f /etc/awstats/awstats.conf -a -r /var/log/apache/access.log ] && /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=awstats -update >/dev/null |
| 10:03.16 | sep | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:03.28 | sep | put that in /etc/cron.d/awstats |
| 10:03.46 | sep | kombi, i think it's included in /usr/share/doc/awstats |
| 10:05.28 | raceme | Vyrus001: yes with make-kpkg (from kernel-package) |
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| 10:06.09 | Vyrus001 | raceme, ic... does that make a deb file to be included or does that work for source kernels.. cus im dealing with a source kernel here |
| 10:07.44 | raceme | Vyrus001: it works for debian or vanilla source kernel and it creates a deb files containing the module. But the third-party module sources have to be "packaged as a module kernel package". Perhaps debhelper can help to create such package but I am not sure. |
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| 10:09.21 | MatBoy | Does Edge not have any kernel-source ? |
| 10:09.50 | Vyrus001 | raceme, yea its actuly a simple thing... right now modprobe is in my kernel so i can load my wifi driver... but its not like i dont have the thing, id rather just include that static and get rid of module suport all togeather but i dont know how to do that since the driver is 3rd party |
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| 10:10.22 | Vyrus001 | MatBoy, u mean "etch"? |
| 10:10.48 | Vyrus001 | try apt-cache searching for "linux-headers" or "linux-source" |
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| 10:11.43 | MatBoy | Vyrus001: yep, sorry typo :) |
| 10:12.27 | raceme | Vyrus001: if you want to include it statically you cannot use what i sugested you because it is intended specifically to make a module |
| 10:12.36 | Vyrus001 | ah |
| 10:12.44 | MatBoy | Vyrus001: it's linux-source now ? |
| 10:13.15 | raceme | Vyrus001: but you can patch you kernel source and use make-kpkg to make a deb of your patched kernel with your static driver, if it is possible with the 3rd party driver |
| 10:13.54 | Vyrus001 | raceme, so bassicly if i get it to work.. i can make a debian vers of the kernel ... but first i have to include it |
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| 10:14.37 | raceme | Vyrus001: yes you have to see if is possible to include it statically and it it is ok you will be able to make a deb with make-kpkg |
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| 10:22.32 | dubbaluga | hi! is it possible to get debugging symbols for DEBs provided without them (e.g. galeon)? it crashed and i want to have a look where that happened |
| 10:23.23 | Dewi | how could something be provided without itself? |
| 10:23.40 | nkuttler | dubbaluga: you could rebuild it |
| 10:24.34 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:24.34 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 10:24.48 | dubbaluga | nkuttler: is that the only way? i would have to care about all the dependencies this way |
| 10:24.55 | bonkalot | hi guys, i've been using "gentoo" for a while, and just switching back to debian for my laptop |
| 10:25.08 | bonkalot | but i've got a strange problem with resolving DNS entries |
| 10:25.14 | nkuttler | dubbaluga: /msg dpkg rebuild from debian source |
| 10:25.18 | jengelh | define strange |
| 10:25.25 | bonkalot | Apt and aptitude resolve everything to 1.0.0.0 |
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| 10:25.39 | jengelh | `host` also? |
| 10:25.44 | bonkalot | but i can ping any thing like security.debian.org fine |
| 10:26.00 | bonkalot | if i place the entry in hosts, it works |
| 10:26.24 | bonkalot | and i have the correct DNS entry in resolv.conf |
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| 10:26.36 | jengelh | does it work when you do `host security.debian.org`? |
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| 10:27.10 | bonkalot | apt resolves every server i've added to it as 1.0.0.0 |
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| 10:27.18 | jengelh | sounds like an apt problem |
| 10:27.23 | liable | bonkalot: hrm, someone else said something similsr the other day. have you checked bts ? |
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| 10:27.43 | bonkalot | yeah.... but i also tried "BitchX" just beofre, which is my long used chat program... and it does the same |
| 10:27.49 | bonkalot | yet Xchat works fine |
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| 10:27.58 | dubbaluga | nkuttler: thx! i'll give it a try! |
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| 10:28.22 | Joe7 | hi |
| 10:29.07 | bonkalot | bts ?? |
| 10:29.32 | infernix | is there a better tool to make screenshots of X? i'm looking at xwd now. |
| 10:29.34 | bonkalot | i've done a few googles, and looked on a couple of debian support sites, but nothing specific |
| 10:30.25 | nnod | anyone having samba upgrading problems on debian experimental? is there a workaround? --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=348079 |
| 10:30.43 | bonkalot | ahh BTS = Bug Tracking System --- i'll go have a sqwizz around thats |
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| 10:32.41 | nkuttler | infernix: import? |
| 10:32.56 | nkuttler | infernix: imagemagick package |
| 10:33.08 | liable | yeah |
| 10:33.27 | liable | http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Make_a_Screenshot_with_PrintScreen_Key |
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| 10:38.44 | gilead | how do I tell gnome-terminal to display UTF8 characters? Locale is en_US.UTF-8. Terminal with mc looks like: ???file.name???size???date??????...right panel. UTF8 characters are presented as ?? in terminal. gedit and all other Gnome apps work fine. |
| 10:38.55 | SNow | hey, one interesting questons, I have 1 lan card, 1 udp cable, but I have an abillity to use 2 ISP's at a time, one uses DHCP, another - simple ip-based tcp/ip, how can I make an virtual ethernet controller, and let dhcp work on it, and another would use ip-based network? |
| 10:38.57 | SNow | is that possible? |
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| 10:40.01 | sep | SNow, everything is possible, but it would be cleaner to add a interface |
| 10:40.26 | sep | SNow, you can just add a eth0:1 stanca in the interfaces file |
| 10:41.29 | SNow | and there I should use |
| 10:41.37 | SNow | auto eth2 |
| 10:41.37 | SNow | iface eth2 inet dhcp |
| 10:41.40 | SNow | is that good? |
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| 10:41.51 | SNow | Unrecognized kernel version |
| 10:41.51 | SNow | Failed to bring up eth2. |
| 10:41.53 | SNow | after ifup eth2 |
| 10:42.35 | SNow | do i need dhcpclient? |
| 10:43.17 | liable | SNow: di you pay attention to what sep said? |
| 10:43.52 | Luftzig | I get this error when I try to installed wine (and sometime other stuff): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 54, <> line 9.debconf: can't initiate interface: Gnome debconf: (DISPLAY problem?) debconf: setting back interface: Dialog |
| 10:44.11 | Luftzig | I'm sorry it's that long... |
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| 10:44.38 | liable | Luftzig: dpkg-reconfiure debconf pick other than gnome |
| 10:44.52 | sep | Luftzig, can not open display: sounds to me like you are logged intor |
| 10:45.04 | sep | Luftzig, can not open display: sounds to me like you are logged into X as a user and have used su instead of sux |
| 10:45.08 | jengelh | sounds like $DISPLAY is unset |
| 10:45.14 | liable | Luftzig: pick dialog is the best bet |
| 10:45.39 | Luftzig | sep, I use -xterm as root on X... |
| 10:45.42 | sep | Luftzig, do what liable say. it will make it work allways |
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| 10:46.25 | Luftzig | thank you guys |
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| 10:46.53 | SNow | I did eth0:1 the same problem! |
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| 10:48.29 | bonkalot | liable : thanks dude, found little bits of info all over the place |
| 10:49.00 | liable | bonkalot: found a solution? |
| 10:49.04 | bonkalot | looks to be a problem with using my router as the DNS, as soon as i added the ISP DNS into resolv.conf it worked perfectly |
| 10:49.12 | liable | sweet |
| 10:49.20 | bonkalot | VERY strange, because the router works perfectly, and it works fine for pings |
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| 10:49.39 | liable | bonkalot: yeah my router ip has always been fine for me. |
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| 10:50.12 | jm_ | my coworker had something similar, except fetching DNS info was very slow, but it did work in the end |
| 10:50.13 | bonkalot | looks like i'll have to setup my local dns cache again |
| 10:50.41 | bonkalot | any ideas for the current flavor of the month for a DNS cache ? |
| 10:50.51 | bonkalot | i've always used bind.... but ti's a bit overkill |
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| 10:50.54 | liable | jm_: i have had the slow dns thing once. cant remember when i switched back though. |
| 10:51.17 | liable | jm_: think it was ipv6 lookups doing it iirc |
| 10:51.34 | jm_ | bonkalot: dnsmasq, nscd |
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| 10:52.29 | jm_ | liable: this feller is a bit of a clicker, can't expect him to know such details (he's using Ubuntu and when using Firestarter, his network transfers were slower than withotu firewall and he bitched at ISP because of it - he has 10/2Mbps connection) |
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| 10:52.59 | tarzeau | can i tell sed to only do something on every 2nd line? |
| 10:53.10 | jm_ | tarzeau: you have my permission! |
| 10:53.19 | tarzeau | jm_: hehe. |
| 10:53.32 | jm_ | tarzeau: GNU sed has an extension for this |
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| 10:54.02 | tarzeau | how can i do that? |
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| 10:54.30 | jm_ | a~b as address - info sed -> sed Programs -> Addresses |
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| 10:57.13 | beanz | (codename ‘sarge$rsquo;) -- http://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060419 |
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| 11:00.16 | infernix | hm, i recall an easy way to install all the packages that are installed on machine A, onto machine B, with some dpkg -l voodoo magic. I believe it's even in dkpg, anyone know what i speak of? |
| 11:00.40 | jm_ | yes |
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| 11:01.38 | infernix | great. what's the command? :) |
| 11:01.47 | infernix | !clone |
| 11:01.47 | dpkg | our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 11:01.53 | infernix | hm. |
| 11:01.54 | jm_ | /msg dpkg ffs copy ; /msg dpkg package reselect ; /msg dpkg debian clone |
| 11:02.04 | infernix | cheers |
| 11:02.56 | atsi | i would like to know if there is a program that is similar to netlimiter (windows) http://www.netlimiter.com/ |
| 11:03.35 | infernix | atsi: try wondershaper or trafshaper script. needs some hacking i guess. |
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| 11:04.36 | atsi | infernix: could u send me url? i need something graphical |
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| 11:07.44 | gilead | how do I tell gnome-terminal to display UTF8 characters? Locale is en_US.UTF-8. Terminal with mc looks like: ???file.name???size???date??????...right panel. UTF8 characters are presented as ?? in terminal. gedit and all other Gnome apps work fine. |
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| 11:08.14 | MatBoy | where can I change that KDE has to be started and not gnome ? I can;t find an .xinitrc in my homedir :S |
| 11:08.35 | jm_ | set KDE as default session manager, at least if using default session scripts |
| 11:08.54 | jm_ | besides, you should not use .xinitrc - 'man startx' to find out why |
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| 11:09.33 | MatBoy | jm_ where set I KDE as default session-manager than ? I have checekd the X11 folder... mhh can't find it |
| 11:09.40 | jm_ | man update-alternatives |
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| 11:10.12 | gilead | nm, found it |
| 11:10.17 | liable | is an m2x3.5 a standard screw size? or some retarde IBM thing? |
| 11:10.37 | liable | s/retarde/retarded/ |
| 11:10.48 | MatBoy | I thought is was standard |
| 11:10.52 | MatBoy | it |
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| 11:11.35 | liable | ok. will find out if local store has one i guess. |
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| 11:12.09 | MatBoy | liable can you help me out with the xinit thing ? |
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| 11:12.17 | scytheman | gilead, same problems here with aterm |
| 11:12.24 | MatBoy | normally I install a blank debian version, but gnome was installed with it |
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| 11:12.44 | MatBoy | OK, I installed KDE, removed gnome... gnome is still there started as default :( |
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| 11:13.18 | gilead | scytheman: in my case it was a retarded question, I just had to go to Terminal->Character coding menu... |
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| 11:13.31 | liable | MatBoy: did you try what jm_ said? |
| 11:13.34 | scytheman | gilead, mkay :) |
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| 11:14.00 | scytheman | maybe there are some special settings for utf-8 |
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| 11:14.26 | gilead | xterm worked fine without any additional settings |
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| 11:15.40 | scytheman | hm, yes |
| 11:15.46 | MatBoy | liable, yes... can't get it my way :( |
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| 11:19.07 | liable | MatBoy: make an .xinitrc then with #!/bin/sh; startkde |
| 11:19.44 | MatBoy | liable: I read something like it, but was not that sure about it :) |
| 11:19.54 | MatBoy | I have to reinstall the box... it was a test |
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| 11:20.38 | scytheman | gilead, it seems that aterm doesn't support utf-8 :/ |
| 11:20.52 | scytheman | hm, then i have to switch to rxvt |
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| 11:37.19 | kroddn | How can i force rereading of groups of an user logged in? I mean, i added a user to a group and i don't want to end the X-Session. |
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| 11:37.45 | jm_ | man newgrp sg |
| 11:37.51 | jm_ | it's the same man page anyway |
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| 11:42.01 | atsi | i want to limit the download bandwidth of my pc. i do not want it to be permantly, but for some time everyday. the ideal program for this job is the www.netlimiter.com, any ideas what is the similar for linux? |
| 11:42.26 | infernix | atsi: try wondershaper or trafshaper script. needs some hacking i guess. |
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| 11:42.46 | infernix | dejavu btw |
| 11:43.06 | atsi | infernix: any other? |
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| 11:43.21 | atsi | i need something graphical |
| 11:43.22 | infernix | atsi: i think cron + wonder/trafshaper will suit you fine |
| 11:43.25 | e0f | good morning guys, i need anyone that past me a good link for download vmware-modules-2.6.12-1-386.deb, because i don't find it, thanks :) |
| 11:43.32 | infernix | atsi: sorry, not into GUIs |
| 11:43.39 | atsi | infernix: ok then |
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| 11:44.08 | atsi | anybody that knows any good GUI program for bandwidth shapping? |
| 11:44.28 | infernix | i'd check freshmeat.net but i doubt its there |
| 11:44.30 | FaithX | e0f vmware installs itself from the tgz just fine on debian. |
| 11:44.47 | cheal | dpkg: stable =~ s/r1/r2/ |
| 11:44.47 | dpkg | OK, cheal |
| 11:44.49 | Agrajag- | atsi: i've made a script to do what you've asked for, wait a sec |
| 11:44.51 | cheal | !stable |
| 11:44.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, stable is the status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, and changes will only fix security issues. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is sarge 3.1r2, or ask me about releases. |
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| 11:45.40 | e0f | Faithful: vmware is install on my pc but it need a vmware modules from my kernel because return this error: Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such device. |
| 11:45.40 | e0f | Please make sure that the kernel module `vmmon' is loaded. |
| 11:45.41 | Agrajag- | atsi: try http://home.whatsbeef.net:1339/~filip/ftplimit.sh |
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| 11:46.03 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 11:46.04 | dpkg | methinks qotd79 is <Overfiend> I think I want to fork GCC. Any time a compiler warning or error would be spewed, my version would just say: gcc: something wrong d00d |
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| 11:46.48 | FaithX | e0f: the installer should create the modules required if you have the right build environment |
| 11:47.11 | FaithX | e0f: what version of vmware are you trying to run? |
| 11:47.24 | atsi | Agrajag-: how does it work? |
| 11:47.29 | e0f | FaithX: 4.5.3 |
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| 11:47.44 | FaithX | e0f: Workstation? |
| 11:47.52 | e0f | Faithful: yes |
| 11:48.07 | FaithX | e0f: Download the free server... no probs there |
| 11:48.42 | e0f | Faithful: what's the name of freeserver ? |
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| 11:48.55 | Agrajag- | atsi: it uses tc |
| 11:48.57 | atsi | Agrajag-: i am doing ./ftplimit.sh and it says permission denied |
| 11:49.02 | FaithX | e0f: just go on the website it is easy to find |
| 11:49.07 | Agrajag- | atsi: don't run it |
| 11:49.19 | Agrajag- | atsi: edit it, change it for your needs, then run it from cron |
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| 11:49.35 | atsi | Agrajag-: one sec |
| 11:50.05 | e0f | FaithX: ok, thanks, i try it :þ |
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| 11:50.32 | Agrajag- | atsi: you also have to mark the ports you want to limit with iptables |
| 11:50.36 | FaithX | e0f: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ |
| 11:51.04 | atsi | Agrajag-: i would like to limit my system to have no more than 1MByte /sec. what do i have to do?could u pm me? |
| 11:51.21 | e0f | Faithful: Can i download this: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/ ? |
| 11:51.32 | Agrajag- | atsi: no. my script only does certain ports. read up on tc, it does what you want |
| 11:51.34 | FaithX | Yup |
| 11:51.37 | ootput | would it be alright to remove /usr/X11R6/bin for Sid updates? |
| 11:52.33 | atsi | Agrajag-: that's what confuses me. how do i limit my system? |
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| 11:52.48 | Agrajag- | atsi: read the tc documentation. |
| 11:53.07 | jm_ | atsi: read Advanced Routing HOWTO |
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| 11:54.33 | zrin | I installed just samba-client (on etch), and I keep receiving winbind segfault messages ... shall I try to install samba as well? |
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| 11:58.03 | zrin | hmm it seems I can't install samba on etch because libcupsys2 is unavailable ?!? |
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| 11:59.21 | atsi | Agrajag-: jm_: thx a lot |
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| 12:02.22 | GoAuLd | yesterday i upgraded my system (etch) like every day, today i cant init Xorg and when i use apt-get from console to install something it gives out an error /bin/sh line 1 buffer overflow depkg-preconfigure |
| 12:03.14 | zrin | GoAuLd: that's etch (testing). this is normal |
| 12:03.20 | GoAuLd | var/log/Xorg.0.log gives out a backtrace |
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| 12:03.39 | GoAuLd | are you kidding? |
| 12:03.48 | gilead | normal?! |
| 12:03.56 | amee2k | is there some tool that can help me find missing brackets in C code? |
| 12:04.03 | zrin | yes :) |
| 12:04.12 | gilead | yeah, sure |
| 12:04.22 | amee2k | which one? |
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| 12:04.38 | amee2k | for example |
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| 12:05.23 | GoAuLd | zrin: i use testing for about 10 years and never happend a crapy thing like this before, what you understand for normal? |
| 12:05.52 | zrin | I have following situation at the moment: apt-get install libcupsys2: Package libcupsys2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 12:06.11 | zrin | GoAuLd: can't install samba |
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| 12:06.38 | _rene_ | of course it's normal. testing is still in flux. something like that can happen, too. although not that often like in sid |
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| 12:06.50 | _rene_ | but maybe you should actually tell what the *exact* error is. |
| 12:06.56 | _rene_ | and which arch etc |
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| 12:07.18 | infernix | if I want to make a screenshot from an X server on host A, and i am logged in through ssh from host B, what's needed? "export DISPLAY=:0.0; xwd -root -out screenshot.xwd" doesnt seem to cut it. Do i need to 'xhost +' in the login session first? |
| 12:07.23 | jm_ | or read the web page that has been setup to help with xorg 7.0 issues .... |
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| 12:07.37 | zrin | _rene_: I have amd64 and it's missing libcupsys2 ... samba needs it; what are my options? |
| 12:07.45 | _rene_ | haha. amd64. lol |
| 12:07.50 | _rene_ | RTF announcement lists |
| 12:07.51 | zrin | lol |
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| 12:08.36 | _rene_ | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/04/msg00005.html |
| 12:08.44 | _rene_ | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/04/msg00011.html |
| 12:09.13 | jm_ | it's even mentioned in DWN |
| 12:10.01 | zrin | _rene_: thank you |
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| 12:11.41 | GoAuLd | executing /usr/bin/dpkg-preconfigure gives Buffer Overflow |
| 12:12.20 | GoAuLd | i use etch i32 |
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| 12:12.52 | coccodrillo | I have a compaq proliant width 2.6.8 work fine, otherwise width 2.6.12 or 2.6.15 dont mount root filesystem, any solution ? |
| 12:13.28 | gilead | coccodrillo: where it fails? |
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| 12:13.53 | gilead | coccodrillo: during pivot_root? |
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| 12:14.17 | coccodrillo | i think is cpqarray have a problem, dont start log freeze before |
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| 12:14.35 | coccodrillo | sorry for my english |
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| 12:14.54 | gilead | coccodrillo: but is pivot_root mentioned shortly before it fails? |
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| 12:15.57 | gilead | coccodrillo: if it is (I've had similar problem) then rebuild initial ramdisk with drivers for your hard disk/array |
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| 12:18.20 | mwright1night | How can I go chmod -R g+s /path but only apply to directories? |
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| 12:18.28 | coccodrillo | i dont know where is pivot_root, the result is wrong it fail mount root, width 2.6.15 i have error, remaning in busybox |
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| 12:19.00 | xomhau | re hi |
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| 12:19.59 | xomhau | anyone , how to create a script in xchat? |
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| 12:20.11 | xomhau | like bot |
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| 12:20.27 | gilead | xomhau: go to xchat site, google for examples |
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| 12:20.54 | stew | mwright1night: find /path -type d | xargs chmod g+s |
| 12:21.13 | xomhau | gilead, ok |
| 12:21.38 | mwright1night | stew: is there some other option like g+s that will work on folders that users create also? |
| 12:21.44 | stew | coccodrillo: did you build your initrd with yaird or initramfs-tools? whichever you used, use the others |
| 12:22.12 | mwright1night | Problem i have is that I what permissions to inherit but users create their own subfolders to organise things but those subfolders don't inherit the g+s to pass that setting on to files that are created /copied into those subfolders |
| 12:22.13 | stew | mwright1night: if a user creates a directory in a g+s directory, the new directory will inherit the g+s |
| 12:22.24 | mwright1night | stew.. is not working like that |
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| 12:22.50 | mwright1night | [root@solar home]# ls -lad shared |
| 12:22.50 | mwright1night | drwxrwxr-x 18 root shared 4096 Apr 19 22:16 shared |
| 12:23.05 | stew | yeah, it works for me |
| 12:23.19 | mwright1night | oh it worked |
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| 12:23.31 | mwright1night | hmm I need to look through my history and look at why it didn't work before |
| 12:23.34 | mwright1night | strange strange strange |
| 12:24.55 | mwright1night | chmod: cannot access `/home/shared/Office/Volunteers/Scott': No such file or directory |
| 12:25.25 | mwright1night | that find /path -type d | xargs chmod g+s didn't work unfortunately |
| 12:25.26 | coccodrillo | stew: thank i do a new initrd |
| 12:25.55 | Sonderblade | is there a way to give users permission to start services at low port numbers? |
| 12:25.59 | stew | mwright1night: looks like a permissions problem |
| 12:26.02 | stew | Sonderblade: sudo |
| 12:26.30 | Sonderblade | stew: no, i want to grant all users access to just that privilege |
| 12:26.58 | stew | Sonderblade: use sudo to give them access to something that binds to a low port. otherwise the answer is no |
| 12:27.14 | Maulkin | Sonderblade: Have a look at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/386 too |
| 12:27.58 | stew | oh /me didn't know about authbind |
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| 12:28.31 | Maulkin | stew: Neither did I. Just saw that artricle today :) |
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| 12:29.18 | stew | Maulkin: its a frequent question in here too |
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| 12:30.03 | mwright1night | stew: i'm root, can't be a permissions problem |
| 12:30.12 | stew | mwright1night: why not? |
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| 12:30.25 | mwright1night | I'm trying to set g+s and I"m root so I should have rights |
| 12:30.50 | stew | mwright1night: mkdir /tmp/foo ; chmod 000 /tmp/foo ; cd /tmp/foo -> permission denied; even as root |
| 12:31.09 | mwright1night | [root@solar shared]# ls -lad Working\ Groups/ |
| 12:31.09 | mwright1night | drwxrwsr-x 31 root shared 4096 Mar 25 13:42 Working Groups/ |
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| 12:32.38 | Edward_TLS | must you scsi addapter also support hot-swappable bays... ? |
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| 12:34.08 | Sonderblade | thanks authbind was what i wanted |
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| 12:35.11 | stew | mwright1night: another option is find /path -type d -exec chmod 2775 {} \; |
| 12:35.48 | stew | mwright1night: that would change permissions to an exact permission as it goes instead of generating a list first, might fix whatever permissions problems you have as it goes, assuming 2775 is ok for EVERY directory in that path |
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| 12:36.27 | mwright1night | yer 2775 is cool |
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| 12:36.42 | stew | mwright1night: you may also want find /path -type d -exec chgrp foo {} \; chmod 2775 {} \; |
| 12:37.08 | stew | s/foo/shared/ i guess |
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| 12:37.23 | mwright1night | that did the trick |
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| 12:39.56 | lostson | morning |
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| 12:41.11 | eichi | hi, how can i delete all deb files? |
| 12:41.19 | eichi | because of to small hd |
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| 12:41.28 | jm_ | man apt-get |
| 12:41.29 | Xteven | try apt-cache clean |
| 12:41.36 | cheal | eichi: search for clean in man apt-get |
| 12:41.44 | Xteven | oh wait :P apt-get clean |
| 12:41.55 | _rene_ | even if you don't know about apt-get clean, rm should be obvious, shouldn't it? :-) |
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| 12:44.27 | stew | _rene_: what is the status of oo.o in amd64? we seem to be getting that question a lot recently and nobody seems to know |
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| 12:46.04 | _rene_ | stew: use a i386 chroot. or another i376 pc with it per X fwd |
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| 12:46.27 | _rene_ | s/i376/i386/ |
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| 12:46.42 | stew | _rene_: right. is amd64 forth coming soon or still a long way off |
| 12:46.48 | _rene_ | we plan to provide _amd64 debs with the 32bit OOo, but I wait for that patch ;) |
| 12:46.53 | _rene_ | stew: still a longer way.... |
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| 12:47.40 | stew | _rene_: that's what i configured, but noticed the other day that whatever the most bleeding edge ubuntu is was seemingly providing amd64 .debs |
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| 12:47.46 | stew | uhh s/con// |
| 12:47.50 | stew | heh |
| 12:48.02 | _rene_ | stew: that's the i386 ones repackaged |
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| 12:48.27 | stew | _rene_: gotcha. thanks |
| 12:48.37 | cheal | what does it mean to repackage i386 for amd64? |
| 12:48.51 | _rene_ | but how they do that is bogus IMHO |
| 12:48.59 | _rene_ | cheal: _amd64 debs just containing the i386 stuff |
| 12:49.19 | _rene_ | depending on 32-bit libs etc. |
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| 12:50.07 | cheal | _rene_: OK, so like a i386 chroot? (I know nothing about amd64, chroots and multiarch, so just talking approximately) |
| 12:50.31 | _rene_ | cheal: no. just a "normal" deb which installs into the normal system |
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| 12:51.27 | cheal | _rene_: so that means you can install and run i386 .deb-s on amd64? (possible, but I didn't know) |
| 12:51.46 | stew | !openoffice amd64 is porting openoffice.org to amd64 is not trivial, and is expected to take a while. In the meantime you can run the i386 version of openoffice in a chroot: ask me about <debootstrap> |
| 12:51.46 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 12:51.47 | _rene_ | no. the debs will be _amd64 |
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| 12:51.55 | _rene_ | but the *contents* is for i386 |
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| 12:52.03 | stew | !openoffice is also ask me about <openoffice amd64> |
| 12:52.03 | dpkg | okay, stew |
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| 12:52.47 | cheal | _rene_: well OK, but except the name |
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| 12:53.30 | _rene_ | waah |
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| 12:53.38 | _rene_ | !openoffice is did you mean "openoffice.org"? |
| 12:53.40 | dpkg | ...but openoffice is already something else... |
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| 12:53.47 | _rene_ | damn |
| 12:53.48 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:53.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 12:54.23 | cheal | I hope I'm not at the wrong place to educate me about this, but if that's possible, why using a chroot instead? |
| 12:54.33 | stew | _rene_: openoffice and openoffice.org factoids are already linked, altering one alters the other |
| 12:54.44 | cheal | !openoffice.org |
| 12:54.44 | dpkg | well, openoffice.org is an LGPL office productivity suite based upon Sun's StarOffice. See #debian-oo #openoffice.org http://openoffice.debian.net or http://www.openoffice.org, or ask me about <openoffice amd64> |
| 12:54.51 | _rene_ | ah, ok. then please kill the wrong one. please. |
| 12:55.03 | _rene_ | people should just learn how the program is called |
| 12:55.18 | _rene_ | or at least actually *tell* the right name |
| 12:55.27 | cheal | !openoffice |
| 12:55.27 | dpkg | openoffice.org is, like, an LGPL office productivity suite based upon Sun's StarOffice. See #debian-oo #openoffice.org http://openoffice.debian.net or http://www.openoffice.org, or ask me about <openoffice amd64> |
| 12:55.58 | cheal | _rene_: dpkg answers about the right name |
| 12:56.00 | _rene_ | still references "openoffice" |
| 12:56.09 | stew | err fixes |
| 12:56.13 | cheal | !openoffice |
| 12:56.13 | dpkg | [openoffice.org] an LGPL office productivity suite based upon Sun's StarOffice. See #debian-oo #openoffice.org http://openoffice.debian.net or http://www.openoffice.org, or ask me about <openoffice amd64> |
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| 12:56.43 | _rene_ | and, err, based on StarOffice is completely wrong, sorry |
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| 12:57.06 | _rene_ | not to mention it's Suns, not Sun's ;-) |
| 12:57.09 | cheal | !openoffice.org amd64 is porting openoffice.org to amd64 is not trivial, and is expected to take a while. In the meantime you can run the i386 version of openoffice.org in a chroot: ask me about <debootstrap> |
| 12:57.09 | dpkg | ...but openoffice.org amd64 is already something else... |
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| 12:57.23 | cheal | dpkg: forget openoffice amd64 |
| 12:57.26 | stew | no |
| 12:57.31 | stew | i fixed it in message |
| 12:57.40 | jm_ | heh |
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| 12:58.40 | cheal | dpkg: openoffice.org amd64 =~ s/office in/office.org in/ |
| 12:58.40 | dpkg | cheal: OK |
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| 12:59.31 | cheal | dpkg: openoffice.org =~ s#office amd64#office.org amd64# |
| 12:59.31 | dpkg | OK, cheal |
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| 12:59.48 | Xtroubled | Hi all. I have been experiencing problems with using keyboard after starting an X session (gdm to be precise). I can use the keyboard when I do not start the X session. I searched the web and found out that this was a case of "X and getty fighting for kb control". So I tried to find a way out. I found that there is a way to disable tty control on VTs and enable the X to open up on that VT. I do not know which files I should tinker with. Could someone |
| 12:59.48 | Xtroubled | help me? |
| 13:00.10 | LSorensen | xtr: which version of x? |
| 13:00.17 | Xtroubled | Xorg |
| 13:00.22 | Xtroubled | Debian unstable |
| 13:00.22 | LSorensen | xtr: which VERSION |
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| 13:00.32 | LSorensen | xtr: ah 7.0. is xkb-data installed? |
| 13:00.41 | LSorensen | Xtroubled: is the xorg meta package installed? |
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| 13:00.53 | Xtroubled | I do not know. I do not know how to check either. |
| 13:00.56 | zrin | so libcupsys2 is not available in amd64 testing ... what are my options? (samba depends on it) |
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| 13:01.04 | LSorensen | xtr: then you should not go anywhere near unstable |
| 13:01.05 | azeem | Xtroubled: then you should not run unstable, really |
| 13:01.11 | Xtroubled | I am not in linux ruight now. |
| 13:01.21 | azeem | Xtroubled: that's something different |
| 13:01.23 | azeem | :) |
| 13:01.42 | azeem | it's hard to diagnose your problem remotely then |
| 13:01.45 | LSorensen | xtr: do apt-get install xorg xkb-data, that should fix most keyboard problems people have seen with 7.0 so far |
| 13:02.01 | Xtroubled | ok. |
| 13:02.05 | Xtroubled | I will try doing that. |
| 13:02.15 | Xtroubled | rebooting right now... |
| 13:03.03 | cheal | _rene_: oh, OK I think I understand the status of amd64 now |
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| 13:07.59 | kspath | azeem: You heard about the moron(s) attacking several hours ago? |
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| 13:10.07 | azeem | I saw home !ops highlighting in my /awaylog |
| 13:10.11 | azeem | s/home/some/ |
| 13:11.16 | kspath | azeem: < lilo> btw, fazlamesai.net is a Turkish news/blog site that seems to have a lot of information about free software |
| 13:11.40 | kspath | azeem: < lilo> they had nothing to do with the spam attacks, other than that I think some kid that's annoyed at a channel staffer on their channel is trying to get them kicked off freenode |
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| 13:11.57 | zrin | please enlighten me - what can I do about missing libcupsys2 package in testing amd64 which samba depends upon? |
| 13:12.17 | MatBoy | Who ! My system is running with the nvidia driver :) |
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| 13:12.40 | kspath | MatBoy: Whoa! OR Wow! ? |
| 13:12.43 | azeem | kspath: so what does that mean? |
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| 13:12.51 | zrin | I tried apt-get source libcupsys2 and got cupsys-1.1.23; but it won't compile... |
| 13:12.52 | MatBoy | kspath: both :p |
| 13:13.13 | jm_ | zrin: now you know why it's not in the repository ;) |
| 13:13.13 | MatBoy | Now I have to find out how I am going to scan my Matrox G2+ in the system |
| 13:13.14 | myxie | complain to Tridge....? |
| 13:13.15 | azeem | zrin: amd64 in testing is very recent |
| 13:13.18 | myxie | :-) |
| 13:13.48 | prudhvi | Can any one tell me how to enable Large File Support for Apache on 2.0.55 Debian Sid ? |
| 13:14.03 | kspath | azeem: Several hours ago there was a attack on the channel that was just hundreds of copies of a channel name. It was an semi-automated attack. |
| 13:14.04 | thegve | Had to identify according to NickServ, It can be that you've already received the following...: Hello, I've got an installation Problem. I can't get my HP netserver lc 3 working, the problem is the netraid 1-si scsi raid controller. It is working in Damn Small Linux, booted from PXE, using the MegaRaid driver. The megaraid driver doesn't seem to be included with the installer anymore. So, my question is, how do I load this thing. |
| 13:14.21 | zrin | azeem: do you mean I should just wait a couple of days ... or try sarge + backports instead? |
| 13:14.34 | kspath | azeem: The +R now is due to the moron(s) attacking. |
| 13:14.37 | MatBoy | Can anyone tell me how I can scan a pci-card when lspci is nog working ? |
| 13:14.45 | MatBoy | nog=not |
| 13:14.56 | myxie | thegve - try #debian-boot, but they're a bit quiet |
| 13:15.20 | kspath | MatBoy: hwinfo work? |
| 13:15.28 | MatBoy | I'm going to check it |
| 13:15.29 | zrin | cd .. |
| 13:15.30 | MatBoy | just a sec |
| 13:15.35 | sep | thegve, tried both 2.4 and 2.6 ? tried loading it manualy in alt+f2 in the installer. |
| 13:15.40 | myxie | MatBoy: what does "not working" means? |
| 13:15.45 | stew | MatBoy: try update-pciids ; then run lspci again |
| 13:15.48 | cahoot | MatBoy: or simply cat /proc/pci? |
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| 13:16.08 | thegve | -sep-, Tried both |
| 13:16.10 | MatBoy | The command is not recognized, the same for hwinfo |
| 13:16.17 | MatBoy | I'm root at the moment |
| 13:16.28 | thegve | myxie, I'll try debian-boot |
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| 13:16.33 | stew | MatBoy: install pciutils |
| 13:16.34 | kspath | MatBoy: read what cahoot said. |
| 13:16.39 | azeem | kspath: so you say we should remove the +R again? |
| 13:16.46 | kspath | azeem: NO |
| 13:17.07 | azeem | ok, then you were just giving some information? :) |
| 13:17.12 | kspath | azeem: just did not know if you knew about the attack(s). |
| 13:17.16 | azeem | or do you think any other action is needed |
| 13:17.19 | azeem | ok |
| 13:17.29 | MatBoy | cahoot: Does not work. I only have /proc/bus/pci |
| 13:17.43 | MatBoy | cahoot: but that are all folders |
| 13:17.47 | myxie | 2.6.16 does not have a /proc/pci, so try /proc/bus/pci |
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| 13:18.06 | MatBoy | myxie: I'm running -15 ;) |
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| 13:18.12 | cahoot | MatBoy: ah - it's my kernel supporting legacy pci |
| 13:18.24 | jm_ | thegve: 2.6.15 kernel in Etch (and 2.6.16 in sid) has several megaraid modules, so I suppose Sarge 2.6.15 installer might help |
| 13:18.43 | myxie | MatBoy: hmm, better install pciutils if you can |
| 13:18.44 | kneet | I see that r2 is out - how long does it usually take http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ to be updated? |
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| 13:19.30 | azeem | kneet: hard to say, but not more than a few days at most |
| 13:19.33 | MatBoy | myxie: That is an option ! Strange thing is that I do'n see the matrox :S |
| 13:19.49 | kspath | MatBoy: cat /proc/bus/pci/devices gave me some info |
| 13:19.50 | kneet | azeem, ok thx. Just that I've got an install to do tonight ;) |
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| 13:20.19 | kspath | MatBoy: Did you try what stew said? |
| 13:20.35 | MatBoy | yep, I have installed it |
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| 13:21.34 | Coke | Is there some add-on for Firefox that will make it download media that is embedded in a page instead of requesting to download the plugin? |
| 13:21.38 | thegve | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=megaraid&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 the normal kernel has modules for megaraid |
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| 13:21.44 | jm_ | Coke: yes |
| 13:21.49 | thegve | the installer is a bit a problem |
| 13:21.50 | kspath | MatBoy: pciutils also as stew said? |
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| 13:21.55 | thegve | I could do a HD install |
| 13:21.58 | Coke | jm_: really? perhaps it's not included in Debian? |
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| 13:22.03 | MatBoy | kspath yep |
| 13:22.07 | Braindead | Coke: mozilla-mplayer or totem-player-whateveriscalled |
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| 13:22.13 | MatBoy | kspath I have to find out how it works :) |
| 13:22.15 | Coke | Braindead: I don't want the plugin. |
| 13:22.24 | jm_ | Coke: never checked about that, I get it from the extensions site |
| 13:22.34 | Coke | jm_: ah. do you have a name? |
| 13:22.42 | jm_ | Coke: sure, "Download Embedded" :) |
| 13:22.50 | Coke | jm_: quit pulling my leg. :) |
| 13:23.05 | MatBoy | nice ! |
| 13:23.05 | Coke | jm_: haha! |
| 13:23.09 | MatBoy | I see the matrox :) |
| 13:23.14 | Coke | that was too obvious, jm |
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| 13:23.21 | MatBoy | 4 times :D |
| 13:23.39 | jm_ | Coke: there's also MediaPlayerConnectivity (by Sethnakht) |
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| 13:23.49 | jm_ | Coke: http://membres.lycos.fr/sethnakht/ |
| 13:23.58 | MatBoy | kspath: OK, I see the addreess of the card in front of it |
| 13:24.07 | MatBoy | kspath: something I need I guess |
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| 13:25.14 | Coke | jm_: the download embedded would have been perfect if only the Debian package had a newer firefox. |
| 13:25.23 | Coke | jm_: I'm really trying hard to stick to packages. |
| 13:25.25 | jm_ | Coke: I use 1.5 from backports |
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| 13:26.43 | thegve | Got it working, very strange, been working on this for 3.5 hours now... |
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| 13:26.51 | thegve | simply did a modprobe and it worked |
| 13:26.51 | zrin | where can I get "emp" (to package my freshly patched cupsys)? |
| 13:26.58 | thegve | must have been sleeping |
| 13:26.58 | thegve | lol |
| 13:28.16 | thegve | I have 2 days to configure this thingy with LDAP and Samba and VPN and reasonable rights, so I've still got something to do :).. |
| 13:28.31 | IceTox | Catch ya'll later =) |
| 13:28.58 | Xtroubled | well... it did not work. |
| 13:29.31 | kspath | Xtroubled: Can you define it and define "did not work" ? |
| 13:30.11 | Xtroubled | Err... the keyboard problem stays. I can use the keyboard when using the console but not when I start X server. |
| 13:30.31 | Xtroubled | once I start the X server, its over, finished. No more keyboard. |
| 13:30.47 | Xtroubled | "My X server ate my keyboard" kind of situation |
| 13:30.52 | kspath | Xtroubled: How is your keyboard defined in your X config? |
| 13:31.01 | Xtroubled | xfree86 |
| 13:31.03 | kspath | Xtroubled: laptop? |
| 13:31.06 | Xtroubled | nope |
| 13:31.09 | Xtroubled | desktop |
| 13:31.14 | Xtroubled | standard US kb |
| 13:31.29 | kspath | Xtroubled: ps/2 or USB keyboard? |
| 13:31.37 | Xtroubled | PS/2 |
| 13:31.46 | Xtroubled | I have a mouse that is USB though (and it works) |
| 13:31.48 | _rene_ | Xtroubled: which debian version? |
| 13:31.54 | Xtroubled | Deb unstable |
| 13:31.55 | jm_ | check module path for X server |
| 13:32.10 | _rene_ | Xtroubled: then use "xorg", not "xfree86" |
| 13:32.12 | jm_ | although that's unlikely to be it if mouse works |
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| 13:32.17 | Xtroubled | tried it. |
| 13:32.23 | Xtroubled | jm_ it was not the case. |
| 13:32.26 | Xtroubled | I tried it. |
| 13:32.35 | Coke | jm_: you wouldn't happen to know why my window manager feels the need to switch to the desktop with firefox when a new page is being loaded? |
| 13:32.36 | Xtroubled | xorg :O |
| 13:32.45 | Coke | jm_: this did not happen with the old version of firefox. |
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| 13:32.57 | stew | !debwiki Xtroubled Xorg69To7 |
| 13:32.58 | dpkg | Xtroubled: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 13:33.01 | jm_ | Coke: tried changing mozilla.widget.raise-on-setfocus to false? |
| 13:33.37 | Coke | jm_: why do they make things so difficult? :) |
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| 13:34.15 | jm_ | Coke: not sure if this is going to help, I just remember having the same issue back then |
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| 13:35.17 | thegve | dammit |
| 13:35.18 | Coke | jm_: where exactly did you set this string? I can't find it in about:config |
| 13:35.21 | thegve | Grub error 18 |
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| 13:36.07 | jm_ | Coke: yup |
| 13:36.16 | jm_ | Coke: in about:config |
| 13:36.17 | Xtroubled | I will try setting the kb to xorg. |
| 13:36.25 | jm_ | Coke: just search for raise |
| 13:36.34 | Coke | jm_: no such thing. |
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| 13:36.41 | jm_ | Coke: it shows up in 1.5 for me |
| 13:36.55 | Coke | 1.5.0.2 |
| 13:37.21 | stew | Xtroubled probably just doesn't have xserver-xorg-input-kbd installed |
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| 13:37.56 | openandfree | i am also having problems with X in etch since my last update |
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| 13:38.35 | jm_ | Coke: there's always a possibility this was added by one of the extensions, tabbrowser preferences comes to mind - I have used it previously) |
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| 13:39.15 | Coke | jm_: possible. |
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| 13:42.21 | cast_ | i'm looking to download a gmail accounts contents [using pop3] and back it up [probably to mbox]. anyone get any suggestions on tools? fetchmail has the extra annoying step of forwarding it to the MTA. am using slypheed right now but it would bem uch better if i could script this. as gmail+pop3 limits you to downloading 700 messages at a time |
| 13:42.49 | Braindead | cast_: getmail |
| 13:42.50 | jm_ | cast_: no, you can send it directly to MDA with fetchmail, read the man page |
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| 13:43.24 | jm_ | Delivery Control Options |
| 13:43.28 | Braindead | cast_: it's written in python,well designed,secure. and not coded by ESR |
| 13:43.53 | Coke | jm_: it works just adding it to the user.js in the user profile directory. |
| 13:43.55 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 13:43.55 | dpkg | < cOLDrIPPA> ok, i had logged into Debian correct and typed the user and pass now it is in like dos mode for windows anyone help |
| 13:43.58 | jm_ | Coke: nice |
| 13:43.59 | ILF_ | can i do a netinstall over pppoe? |
| 13:44.11 | cast_ | hmm, ill grab getmail :> |
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| 13:46.03 | thegve | Does anyone know why I get a grub error 18 after a simple Installation on my Netserver LC 3 with netraid? I don't feel like this system's bios wouldn't support large hard drives. |
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| 13:48.44 | thegve | Try an update for your BIOS and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range). I usually make the swap partition in the beginning of the disk, for speed purposes, but I'll try to change this.. |
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| 13:48.58 | abrotman | thegve: it certainly should support large drives |
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| 13:49.01 | thegve | first sentence was a quote |
| 13:49.08 | abrotman | thegve: it's about a PIII 500 Mhz? |
| 13:49.16 | thegve | yep |
| 13:49.31 | abrotman | should support larger drives just fine .. did you google for the error ? |
| 13:49.42 | thegve | yeah |
| 13:50.04 | thegve | first sentence of my last post... " Try an update for your BIOS and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range)." |
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| 13:50.12 | thegve | http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection |
| 13:50.18 | kspath | thegve: You are seeing a measurable difference putting swap as the 1st or 2nd partition on a drive? |
| 13:50.25 | abrotman | thegve: did you try different modes on the drive? |
| 13:50.28 | thegve | never tried |
| 13:50.36 | thegve | just thought it should be faster :) |
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| 13:50.52 | thegve | as the beginning of the drive should be faster I think?? |
| 13:50.59 | kspath | thegve: ummm |
| 13:51.38 | abrotman | thegve: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656 |
| 13:52.15 | thegve | abrotman: just posted the same uri |
| 13:52.28 | thegve | but thnx |
| 13:52.32 | kspath | thegve: If you want "faster" than put swap on one or two different drives than /var and /tmp and anything else that you notice has moderately frequent access based on each systems usage. |
| 13:52.33 | abrotman | sorry |
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| 13:53.04 | kspath | Why are you all posting metoo urls? |
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| 13:53.40 | kspath | thegve: fastest of all is to stay out of swap completely. |
| 13:53.44 | sep | kspath, you seriously think grub is that much different between the distoes ? |
| 13:53.44 | snail | what is the commandline to list all of the insatlled packages? |
| 13:53.57 | sep | snail, dpkg -la |
| 13:53.58 | kspath | sep: I was teasing them. |
| 13:54.01 | Braindead | snail: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
| 13:54.03 | abrotman | kspath: because it has hints about grub 18 errors .. you're more than welcome to find a debian one |
| 13:54.12 | kspath | abrotman: I was teasing you. |
| 13:54.20 | abrotman | kspath: i eat your tacos! |
| 13:54.31 | snail | thanks sep and Braindead |
| 13:54.45 | kspath | abrotman: I take your salmon cream cheese on bagel! |
| 13:54.52 | abrotman | did you try it yet? |
| 13:54.59 | kspath | no |
| 13:55.04 | abrotman | slacker |
| 13:55.11 | thegve | kspath: We are building this system for a fast growing company, which is moving in 2 months and want's a temporary server for the time... So no upgrading, but the system already had 512MB, should be enough for a 30 user workgroup system. |
| 13:55.19 | kspath | abrotman: I am poor. We go to store once a week maybe. |
| 13:55.38 | abrotman | kspath: i have money .. i go if i'm lucky once a month |
| 13:55.56 | kspath | abrotman: I have a family. |
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| 13:56.10 | thegve | modprobe only works after the hostname question in the installer... lol |
| 13:56.15 | thegve | didn't know this |
| 13:56.23 | thegve | or for the megaraid module at least |
| 13:57.49 | abrotman | kspath: sell them! |
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| 13:58.24 | Xtroubled | Thanks to all of you guys. Got my Xorg working |
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| 13:58.37 | kspath | abrotman: hmmm, not good. Only got 2 Canadian pennies for them. |
| 13:58.39 | zrin | I have this issue with packages: lsb-core depends on lprng or cupsys-client, I've patched, compiled and built .deb for cupsys; now I'd like to install it, but dpkg won't let me because it conflicts with still existing lprng. how can I resolve this? |
| 13:58.52 | abrotman | kspath: oh well |
| 13:59.26 | kspath | abrotman: Canada called and they want their pennies back as well. I am not having any luck. |
| 13:59.30 | thegve | zrin, remove lprng? |
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| 13:59.50 | kspath | Xtroubled: hints as to what it was? |
| 13:59.51 | abrotman | kspath: get poutine! |
| 13:59.56 | cast_ | Braindead: thanks bro, getmail rocks :> |
| 14:00.13 | Braindead | :) |
| 14:00.13 | zrin | thegve: this will break lsb(-core), shall I forece removal? |
| 14:00.35 | zrin | thegve: I tried dpkg -B -r lprng |
| 14:00.45 | thegve | I don't know, sorry |
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| 14:01.19 | zrin | thegve: dpkg says "lsb-core depends on lprng | cupsys-client; however: Package lprng is to be removed. Package cupsys-client is not installed." |
| 14:01.35 | zrin | it's like hen and egg |
| 14:01.37 | thegve | install cupsys-client i think |
| 14:01.59 | thegve | I thought the | means "OR" |
| 14:02.00 | zrin | thegve: hehe, this conflicts with installed lprng |
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| 14:02.17 | zrin | thegve: yes, it means or |
| 14:02.20 | MatBoy | Xinerama is not that simple :) |
| 14:02.32 | thegve | right, so this IS a hen and egg problem.. |
| 14:02.40 | thegve | I would try forcing stuff |
| 14:02.47 | kspath | MatBoy: What is so hard about Xinerama |
| 14:03.26 | MatBoy | it does not work the way I expect. I did it once on my laptop, worked very fine ! |
| 14:03.41 | MatBoy | Do I need to install a Xinerama package ? Can;t remember anymore |
| 14:04.03 | kspath | MatBoy: apt-get install different-expectations |
| 14:04.36 | ILF_ | E: Couldn't find package different-expectations |
| 14:04.38 | ILF_ | :) |
| 14:04.47 | MatBoy | haha |
| 14:04.57 | kspath | ILF_: man automatic-door |
| 14:05.01 | ILF_ | is that in the "i want ot to be like <foo>" reo? :) |
| 14:05.06 | ILF_ | *repo |
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| 14:05.13 | MatBoy | but there is the following what you can install: libxinerama1 - X Window System multi-head display library |
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| 14:07.02 | kspath | MatBoy: It will be nearly impossible for people to help without knowing what you meant by "does not work the way I expect" and "worked very fine" |
| 14:07.10 | Xtroubled | kspath, it was nvidia drivers :( |
| 14:07.25 | Xtroubled | the xorg.conf was being overwritten everytime by the nvidia drivers. |
| 14:07.29 | kspath | Xtroubled: nividia parts on your motherboard? |
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| 14:07.36 | Xtroubled | 5200 FX :D |
| 14:07.57 | proppy | Hi, i've got a pb with mounting proc in a chroot, deboostrap failed with "mount: permission denied" when trying to mount /proc |
| 14:08.04 | Xtroubled | the debain wiki page also had info about nvidia troubling xorg 7 |
| 14:08.06 | MatBoy | kspath: I use with the BusID the ID's that I get from lspci (expectect to work) When I did that on my laptop it worked fine |
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| 14:08.38 | ILF_ | hm, how can i get them name of all installed packages on shell? |
| 14:08.52 | kspath | MatBoy: "does not work the way I expect" ? |
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| 14:09.00 | MatBoy | Xtroubled: Yes indeed, the xorg.conf will be overwritten, you are warned for that ;) |
| 14:09.18 | MatBoy | kspath: No output when I use the lspci output |
| 14:09.24 | Xtroubled | I did a force reinstall of xorg, xserver-xorg, xserver-xorg-input-kb ... then restarted the xserver. It worked. I installed the nv drivers and then it would insert the keyboard info as "xfree86" instead of "xorg" |
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| 14:09.38 | proppy | ILF_ : dpkg -l ? |
| 14:09.38 | MatBoy | kspat: That should be, so I expect it should work that way :) |
| 14:09.41 | kspath | MatBoy: single VGA? |
| 14:09.46 | Xtroubled | it will not overwrite completely. Just modify certain values. |
| 14:09.54 | MatBoy | kspath: Nope, Matrox Quad |
| 14:09.55 | thegve | Still this strange grub error 18 |
| 14:10.06 | Xtroubled | because my settings on monitor resolutions were untouched MatBoy |
| 14:10.34 | MatBoy | Xtroubled: INdeed, you are very true here.. I saw a line that was moved here also |
| 14:10.39 | Xtroubled | but somehow it was over writing just the keyboard settings. Anyway... *whew* learnt a lot. |
| 14:10.48 | kspath | MatBoy: In that case there are difference between multi-card VGA and single-card VGA with multi-head configs. |
| 14:10.48 | ILF_ | proppy: only package names, no descriptions? (ans no awk :)) |
| 14:11.06 | MatBoy | kspath I make a pastebin for you |
| 14:11.08 | MatBoy | just a sec |
| 14:11.08 | proppy | ILF_ : no tr ? :) |
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| 14:11.18 | kspath | MatBoy: I have 3 separate VGA cards each with their own BusID. |
| 14:11.19 | proppy | ILF_ : nor cut ? |
| 14:11.20 | ILF_ | proppy: :) |
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| 14:11.54 | ILF_ | i thought maybe there's a command to do it, but yeah, i'll pipe it myself :/ |
| 14:12.00 | Xtroubled | must report this problem to NV. I dont think they bother much though. |
| 14:12.00 | MatBoy | kspath: here you go: http://pastebin.com/669247 |
| 14:12.03 | proppy | ILF_ : dpkg -l | cut -d ' ' -f 3 |
| 14:12.04 | kspath | MatBoy: You likely have one BusID unless it is one of those "special" multi-card" cards. |
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| 14:12.14 | MatBoy | kspath: The matrox is seen as 4 seperate cards |
| 14:12.18 | ILF_ | proppy: thanks |
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| 14:13.29 | kspath | MatBoy: interesting. It appears you have the pci information |
| 14:13.51 | MatBoy | kspath: yep the pciutils installation did the trick :) |
| 14:13.58 | kspath | MatBoy: you also have a 5th if you want to use the Nvidia. |
| 14:14.08 | MatBoy | it's some months ago that I used Debian.. I'm alsmost there again ! |
| 14:14.12 | MatBoy | -s |
| 14:14.18 | ronove | "startx" crashes with fatal server error: "could not open default font 'fixed'" |
| 14:14.33 | MatBoy | kspath: Yes indeed, on the Nvidia is my middle monitor |
| 14:14.42 | MatBoy | I want to have left and right on the Matrox |
| 14:14.43 | _rene_ | upgrade. if that doesn't help, change your config |
| 14:14.54 | _rene_ | to the paths where the fonts actually are in /they moved) |
| 14:14.55 | kspath | MatBoy: 5 monitors? |
| 14:15.01 | _rene_ | and think whether you really want to use sid.... |
| 14:15.10 | MatBoy | nope, 3 at the moment, but maybe 5 or 6 in the future |
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| 14:15.51 | MatBoy | kspath: Do you want a pastebin of my xorg.conf for the moment ? |
| 14:16.13 | kspath | MatBoy: What are you expecting that is not happening? |
| 14:16.19 | kspath | MatBoy: sure why not. |
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| 14:16.35 | ronove | _rene_: I've always used sid, but did a fresh install, and bam.. this comes up.. but I didn't actually change any config file at all.. so upgrade won't help.. I'll search where the fonts moved to |
| 14:16.49 | jengelh | Does Debian3.1 use prelink? |
| 14:16.51 | MatBoy | kspath: OK, would be nice. For this moment I expect something on my left monitor, but it does get not any signal :( |
| 14:17.07 | _rene_ | ronove: well, then you still need to change the fontpath |
| 14:17.28 | ronove | _rene_: yep, but first I'll have to find out where they went to.. |
| 14:17.33 | kspath | MatBoy: pastebin of your xorg.conf? |
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| 14:17.50 | _rene_ | dpkg -L of your favourite xfonts-* |
| 14:17.50 | ILF_ | what xserver-xorg package(s) are enough for basic x-window system? |
| 14:17.50 | dpkg | ii of your favourite xfonts-* 3.4-15.2 _rene_'s private gamp collection |
| 14:17.53 | _rene_ | tells you |
| 14:17.54 | kspath | MatBoy: What driver are you using? |
| 14:18.26 | MatBoy | kspath: mga for the Matrox |
| 14:18.34 | MatBoy | kspath: Here you go again :) http://pastebin.com/669263 |
| 14:18.39 | _rene_ | ronove: /usr/share/fonts/X11 |
| 14:18.44 | kspath | MatBoy: thank you |
| 14:18.59 | MatBoy | kspath: I can better thank you for the moment ;) |
| 14:19.11 | _rene_ | instead of /usr/lib/X11R&/something |
| 14:19.26 | ronove | _rene_: there isn't a directory called "X11" in /usr/share/fonts/ |
| 14:19.39 | jetscreamer | kspath: do you ever sleep? |
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| 14:20.13 | MatBoy | jetscreamer: I have had the same for a year... you sleep when you really can't go further :) |
| 14:20.21 | kspath | jetscreamer: yes I did and do. |
| 14:20.21 | _rene_ | it's here on sid. |
| 14:20.33 | kspath | MatBoy: Your xorg.conf is wrong. |
| 14:20.36 | _rene_ | what arch? which X version? you *sure* you use *up-to-date* sid? |
| 14:20.44 | MatBoy | kspath: Was the best possibility |
| 14:20.54 | MatBoy | kspath: What do I have to change ? |
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| 14:21.15 | jetscreamer | http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7/ |
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| 14:21.20 | kspath | MatBoy: make each of the 4 BusID versions of that single card AS IF they are separate cards. |
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| 14:21.44 | kspath | MatBoy: You will then have 1 nvidia and 4 matrox |
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| 14:21.53 | ronove | _rene_ and I'm sure it used to be here.. arch: i686-smp; x-version: latest in sid @ ftp.belnet.be/debian/; *sure*: hell, how could I be *sure*? |
| 14:22.01 | kspath | MatBoy: At least add the 2 your want |
| 14:22.09 | MatBoy | kspath: but I only use 2 of them. the 07:00:0 is the "master" of the card ? But there are only 3 under it... |
| 14:22.24 | kspath | MatBoy: It is not a matter of a "master" |
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| 14:22.47 | kspath | MatBoy: xorg.conf is what does the xorg part |
| 14:23.03 | MatBoy | kspath: This xorg.conf was only to test the left screen btw... the right is not there @ the moment, only the middle one |
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| 14:23.24 | kspath | MatBoy: make a backup copy of this config |
| 14:23.36 | MatBoy | kspath: I have done that |
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| 14:23.38 | d0uglas | Do I have a DNS cache file? webalizer wants me to specify one for resolving ips... |
| 14:23.57 | MatBoy | kspath: would you like to make a changement to look what I have done wrong ? |
| 14:23.59 | mentor | Is there someone using Atheros wireless cards that I can ask a favour from? |
| 14:24.18 | kspath | MatBoy: your layout at the bottom is not exactly a good way either |
| 14:24.18 | ronove | _rene_ xorg version: 7.0.14 |
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| 14:24.56 | MatBoy | kspath: That was something I doubt about indeed, I thought... it first has to work a little bit... after finetuning :) |
| 14:25.00 | kspath | MatBoy: Since it is treating it as 4 separate cards and the nvidia one is definitely a different card you should use the better method for that. |
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| 14:25.36 | MatBoy | kspath: OK, I understand that. I have to figure out how |
| 14:26.16 | kspath | MatBoy: The method you used for layout is what is used for different situations than yours. |
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| 14:26.39 | MatBoy | kspath for a dualhead card ? |
| 14:26.45 | kspath | MatBoy: Where someone has a multi-head single VGA card with only 1 BusID. |
| 14:27.01 | kspath | MatBoy: or a 3 or 4 head card with only 1 BusID. |
| 14:27.03 | MatBoy | kspath: Yep indeed.. I copied it from my laptopconfig :) |
| 14:27.06 | MatBoy | sorry for that ! |
| 14:27.17 | abrotman | mentor: don't make me /msg dpkg tell mentor about ask |
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| 14:27.52 | MatBoy | kspath: but is there some good info to find on the net about my situation ? |
| 14:28.06 | MatBoy | kspath: or do you have an idea ? |
| 14:28.07 | thegve | Ok, My installation worked(*), but it fails to boot with an error 18, which according to some docs on the net indicate that Grub can't find something that he should find. I booted by PXE boot into Damn Small Linux, and everything seems normal on the installation partition. Did a grub-install, but this makes no difference. |
| 14:28.34 | thegve | I've never done an installation on something else than a plain p-ata IDE system. |
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| 14:28.41 | kspath | MatBoy: It is not a "situation". Just fix the config listing each BusID as if it was a separate card and use the proper layout method at bottom. |
| 14:28.43 | thegve | Is there anything special I need to think about? |
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| 14:29.44 | d0uglas | Do I have a dns cache file? where would it be? |
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| 14:30.01 | jetscreamer | grub and udev together seem to like to bork when multiple controllers/boot devices are used |
| 14:30.07 | abrotman | d0uglas: are you running bind? |
| 14:30.14 | MatBoy | kspath: About the bottom, I have no clue. I have checked that thought google and found out every time the same... |
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| 14:30.36 | jengelh | udev does not bork |
| 14:30.45 | d0uglas | abrotman: yes |
| 14:30.50 | kspath | MatBoy: That is likely because most multi-head cards have only one BusID. |
| 14:31.13 | kspath | MatBoy: Look for multi-card multi-head configs. |
| 14:31.22 | thegve | jetstreamer: Did you say that to me, and if yes, what do you mean by this? Is there anything I do wrong or so? |
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| 14:31.47 | kspath | MatBoy: my multi-head machine which I am not near at the moment has 3 separate Nvidia cards. |
| 14:31.54 | kspath | MatBoy: just a sec. |
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| 14:32.25 | MatBoy | kspath: Ok.. |
| 14:32.33 | d0uglas | abrotman: should I read the named.conf? |
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| 14:33.14 | abrotman | yes |
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| 14:33.51 | ronove | _rene_ turns out I forgot to install xfonts-base |
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| 14:33.57 | d0uglas | abrotman: "cache" is not mentioned in the file. is it one of these db.* files in /etc/bind? |
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| 14:34.04 | thingfish | thegve: did you install to an sata drive, with a pata drive on the primary ide controller? |
| 14:34.07 | manalive | I have an issue with X in testing/unstable sicne apt-get upgrading last night: |
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| 14:34.19 | manalive | (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" |
| 14:34.19 | manalive | Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' |
| 14:34.28 | thegve | no |
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| 14:34.35 | manalive | LSorensen: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb: No such file or directory |
| 14:34.36 | tarzeau | is there no !RGBSLAP ? |
| 14:35.02 | thegve | thingfish: I've installed to a hardware scsi raid 0 array on a netraid controller |
| 14:35.34 | bronze | azeem: Thank you |
| 14:35.40 | thegve | thingfish: there is onley a CD-rom on the IDE controller |
| 14:35.48 | manalive | tarzeau: is there an obvious solution? I don't see anything on google. |
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| 14:36.02 | tarzeau | manalive: it can't find a file? make it find the file! |
| 14:36.02 | kspath | MatBoy: Sorry my backups do not have a copy of my xorg.conf. Likely have it on other older backups. |
| 14:36.04 | jetscreamer | right |
| 14:36.06 | bronze | azeem: how did the request reach you? |
| 14:36.10 | jetscreamer | sure... |
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| 14:36.17 | azeem | bronze: you /msg'd me? |
| 14:36.30 | bronze | ok, I didn't see a response in that window. |
| 14:36.38 | bronze | Thank you again. |
| 14:36.42 | MatBoy | kspath: Ok, thank for the look !! I have to check something on google than! |
| 14:36.50 | azeem | bronze: I replied, but anyway |
| 14:36.50 | abrotman | that was a retardedly wide ban .. but oh well |
| 14:36.56 | abrotman | stupid botds |
| 14:37.00 | abrotman | stupid typos |
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| 14:38.01 | bronze | azeem: You were about 12th way i tried, so I probabl;y didn't wait long enough |
| 14:38.40 | bronze | but I learned some good things about irc so it was good in the long term. :-) |
| 14:40.00 | d0uglas | abrotman: i've googled this without luck.. nobody's awake in #bind. Where should I ask about this cache file? |
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| 14:41.54 | abrotman | maybe #dns ? |
| 14:42.04 | abrotman | d0uglas: i think the BIND ARM covers this |
| 14:42.34 | d0uglas | nm they woke up in #bind, thank you for the help |
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| 14:45.55 | zrin | what can I do about "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lpr_1%3a2005.05.01_amd64.deb (--unpack):" |
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| 14:46.11 | abrotman | zrin: what's the error? |
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| 14:46.33 | zrin | abrotman: "trying to overwrite `/usr/sbin/lpc', which is also in package cups" |
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| 14:47.18 | abrotman | !tell zrin about sid faq |
| 14:47.21 | abrotman | !tell zrin about overwrite |
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| 14:47.29 | zrin | abrotman: i've patched, compiled, built cups .deb and installed it myself |
| 14:47.37 | abrotman | and? |
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| 14:48.10 | zrin | I had hen and egg problem with cups vs. lprng |
| 14:48.29 | zrin | abrotman: then I forced removal of lprng and installed cups |
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| 14:48.47 | abrotman | are you running unstable? |
| 14:48.55 | zrin | abrotman: some packages were missing lpr (testing amd64) |
| 14:48.59 | jetscreamer | hey how do you allow non-root users to mount using -o loop, like a .iso |
| 14:49.14 | zrin | abrotman: so I'm trying to install lpr (not lprng) |
| 14:49.21 | azeem | jetscreamer: sudo? |
| 14:49.29 | azeem | or put it in fstab maybe |
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| 14:50.00 | zrin | abrotman: It seems to me that the mess gets bigger with each step I teke :) |
| 14:50.19 | zrin | abrotman: running testing amd64 |
| 14:50.22 | jetscreamer | azeem: yeah sudo works, but the fstab would only work on a per .iso basis... i want me to be able to do it w/o typing sudo, and on any .iso |
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| 14:50.35 | abrotman | zrin: so .. don't do it ? |
| 14:50.43 | zrin | abrotman: ok |
| 14:50.51 | azeem | jetscreamer: well, you've hit a unix/monolithic kernel limit I guess |
| 14:51.11 | jetscreamer | azeem: it's a permission thing, aka only root can do it |
| 14:51.14 | azeem | fuse in conjunction with some suid helper might be the cure |
| 14:51.23 | azeem | jetscreamer: no, mount is a system call |
| 14:51.36 | azeem | AFAIK |
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| 14:51.45 | jetscreamer | azeem: i mean permission is denied to regular users |
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| 14:51.53 | jetscreamer | but sudo works fine |
| 14:51.57 | azeem | yes, because it is a system call |
| 14:52.02 | oxigen | i have another swap partition on second hd, how can i add this space to the first one? |
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| 14:52.11 | jetscreamer | pmount maybe |
| 14:52.26 | jetscreamer | oxigen: you can just put another line in fstab for the second swap |
| 14:52.40 | oxigen | jetscreamer, thank you! |
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| 14:53.52 | abrotman | zrin: why are you doing it?> |
| 14:53.53 | manalive | tarzeau: is there a URL where I can get more information? I don't seem to have an rgb directory any longer. |
| 14:53.54 | dos000 | anyone know how one can log a telnet session to a file ? |
| 14:54.39 | tarzeau | dos000: using screen |
| 14:55.14 | ft | with a sniffer ;) |
| 14:55.16 | dos000 | tarzeau: what do i google for ? screen comes like crazy many times |
| 14:55.27 | tarzeau | dos000: gnu screen |
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| 14:55.46 | Axu | is this thing on? |
| 14:55.57 | lostson | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:58.21 | manalive | I have an issue with X in testing/unstable sicne apt-get upgrading last night: |
| 14:58.26 | manalive | Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb' |
| 14:58.40 | cheal | _rene_: according to en.wp.org: "OpenOffice.org is based on the codebase of StarOffice, an office suite developed by StarDivision acquired by Sun Microsystems in August 1999." |
| 14:58.41 | manalive | Can someone point me to where this directory may have gone? |
| 14:58.51 | manalive | or how I can install it once again? |
| 14:58.59 | cheal | _rene_: do you think you're smarter than wikipedia? :-P |
| 14:59.02 | thingfish | manalive: look in /usr/bin |
| 14:59.20 | azeem | manalive: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 14:59.29 | manalive | # find /usr/bin -name rgb |
| 14:59.30 | manalive | # |
| 14:59.32 | thingfish | manalive: I think I saw someone earlier mention that's where the 7.0 binaries are now. |
| 15:00.01 | azeem | thingfish: he seems to be looking for something under /usr/lib though |
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| 15:02.38 | C`Alexa | i need webpage for paste |
| 15:02.42 | C`Alexa | i have a error |
| 15:03.32 | manalive | that URL is handy, but doesn't mention where RGB_DB has been moved, and I can't find it.. even after an updatedb. |
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| 15:03.55 | charzero | Is there a program for linux that can edit existing PDF forms ? |
| 15:03.59 | C`Alexa | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2383 |
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| 15:04.05 | tuv | i have an HD with bad sectors. i low-level formatted it (the manufacturer's tool terminology) and according to the same tool there are no bad sectors anymore. is that possible? can a badblock's read-write surface scan verify this or will it just say the same? |
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| 15:04.14 | tuv | i have an HD with bad sectors. i low-level formatted it (the manufacturer's tool terminology) and according to the same tool there are no bad sectors anymore. is that possible? can a badblock's read-write surface scan verify this or will it just say the same? |
| 15:04.15 | C`Alexa | How i can rezolve this http://channels.debian.net/paste/2383 |
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| 15:04.23 | faber2 | hi everybody |
| 15:04.26 | tarzeau | tuv: usually they relocate sectors |
| 15:04.32 | tarzeau | tuv: /msg dpkg repeat |
| 15:04.40 | faber2 | anyone knows why i cannot join #mysql? it says i need to be identified |
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| 15:04.47 | abrotman | faber2: /msg nickserv help |
| 15:05.04 | tuv | tarzeau, the first time appeared missing two lines on my client, so i wasn't sure if it went through.. sorry |
| 15:05.13 | C`Alexa | How i can rezolve this http://channels.debian.net/paste/2383 |
| 15:06.00 | tuv | tarzeau, what about badblocks? |
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| 15:09.13 | tarzeau | tuv: run it again |
| 15:09.56 | pat1 | ola? |
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| 15:11.23 | tuv | tarzeau, run what again? badblocks? i haven't run badblocks after the format 'cuz of the time it takes. i wanted to make sure it's worth running. |
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| 15:15.29 | kspath | green_earz: I think you have blue ears |
| 15:15.42 | Axu | does someone here maintain wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 ? |
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| 15:16.30 | cheal | Axu: typically, wiki pages have no maintainers |
| 15:16.42 | tuxedup | excuse my ignorence but what packlages do I need to have installed so that when I plug usb storage devices in they auto mount, udev is installed so is mount,usbmount. Do I need hotplug or is it some other package? |
| 15:16.44 | Axu | i meant "access to change" |
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| 15:17.08 | cheal | Axu: everyone here should be able to change it |
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| 15:17.30 | kspath | tuxedup: Are you using KDE or GNOME? |
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| 15:17.39 | tuxedup | kde |
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| 15:18.03 | Axu | could someone add notice at the beginning: "if you are running something other than intel architecture, do NOT upgrade from 69 to 70"? |
| 15:18.09 | cheal | tuxedup: try hal/pmount |
| 15:18.12 | kspath | tuxedup: Sarge/Stable OR Etch/Testing OR Sid/Unstable? |
| 15:18.16 | abrotman | tarzeau: get those packaged? |
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| 15:18.32 | tuxedup | im using etch |
| 15:18.33 | Axu | and also, how can i downgrade back to 69 now? |
| 15:18.59 | cheal | Axu: most likely, but that would look useless without a justification |
| 15:19.05 | kspath | tuxedup: So you are using Etch/Testing with KDE and you want "when I plug usb storage devices in they auto mount" |
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| 15:19.20 | Axu | cheal: there aren't any display drivers for other platforms |
| 15:19.41 | cheal | Axu: really :? |
| 15:19.49 | kspath | tuxedup: You are asking what packages will allow for that? |
| 15:19.50 | tarzeau | abrotman: which? |
| 15:19.59 | tuxedup | yeh i had to reinstall so did it from the ground up. il see what hal does pmount i already installed |
| 15:20.06 | Axu | i haven't been able to find drivers for other platforms |
| 15:20.21 | kspath | tuxedup: hardware abstraction layer? |
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| 15:21.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: the Funny Boat and the Battles of Augolis? |
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| 15:21.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: check the front page of happypenguin! |
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| 15:22.19 | tuxedup | will i need to reboot after installing hal to test or should it work straight after install? |
| 15:22.28 | Axu | can anyone give me pointers on how i can downgrade to xorg 6.9 without reverting to testing or something? |
| 15:23.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's python. i'll check battles of augolis |
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| 15:24.22 | abrotman | tarzeau: there is also stendhal and .. Ecksdee |
| 15:24.37 | abrotman | tarzeau: why won't you do python? |
| 15:24.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: remind me when i'm home, catching da bus |
| 15:24.44 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's too hard? |
| 15:25.07 | kspath | tarzeau: the? or duh? |
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| 15:26.19 | kspath | tarzeau: catching the bus? OR catching duh bus? |
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| 15:27.18 | abrotman | somehow . i doubt he'll understand |
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| 15:27.38 | tuxedup | hal did not do anything, usb storage devices still do not auto moutn when plugged in |
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| 15:28.33 | fusspils | glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible! when running 3Ddesktop. Any idea's? |
| 15:28.35 | Axu | can anyone give me pointers on how i can downgrade to xorg 6.9? |
| 15:28.44 | felix_ | hi, what is the best filesystem to hold a large(40G) pivot_root root filesystem in one file? |
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| 15:29.07 | faber2 | how can i identify myself to join #mysql? i tried to understand the nickserv help, but i didn't |
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| 15:29.56 | Ronin | faber2: its pretty simple just follow nickservs directions on being identified to services |
| 15:29.56 | thingfish | faber2: /msg nickserv help identify |
| 15:29.58 | cheal | tuxedup: did you restart KDE? |
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| 15:30.41 | tuxedup | yeh |
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| 15:30.56 | faber2 | thingfish: i am trying to "IDENTIFY <password>". but: what is my password? |
| 15:31.13 | Ronin | faber2: how would we know? what password did yo uchoose? |
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| 15:31.32 | faber2 | Ronin: where, when? i did not choose a password. at least i dont remember |
| 15:31.54 | kspath | faber2: Did you register your nick yet? |
| 15:32.37 | kspath | faber2: /msg NickServ help register |
| 15:32.40 | tuxedup | or if not auto mounting egleast so that it is auto maticly added to the device list so i can manually mount it |
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| 15:33.06 | cheal | tuxedup: what happens when you plug usb storage devices in? |
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| 15:34.39 | jazbo2185 | So I just did a apt-get update; apt-get upgrade and during configuration I get a screen "configuring locales". The options quite cryptic (at least to me). How do I figure out which one to pick? |
| 15:34.50 | sandman | aptitute wants to break up my system.. it claims there are a few packages which are broken, and it wants to remove openoffice.org and the like to fix it |
| 15:34.53 | sandman | What's up with this? |
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| 15:35.41 | cheal | jazbo2185: there's probably a question you should read |
| 15:35.50 | cheal | !tell janez about away |
| 15:36.03 | janez | ups.. sorry |
| 15:36.05 | tuxedup | nothing at all tail -F -n6 /var/log/messages sees that i have added a 'new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 12' has been added |
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| 15:36.35 | cheal | tuxedup: is the KDED Media Manager running? |
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| 15:37.07 | thingfish | jazbo2185: pick one of the en_US ones |
| 15:37.16 | tuxedup | top doesnt show it so im presuming not |
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| 15:38.21 | cheal | tuxedup: you should check in the KDE services manager |
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| 15:38.49 | cheal | sandman: are there actually broken packages on your system? |
| 15:39.04 | jazbo2185 | thingfish, cheal, ty yah I neglected to scroll down the list which was why I was puzzled at the lack of choices that looked familiar. Thanks |
| 15:39.19 | tuxedup | it says it is running |
| 15:39.27 | cheal | tuxedup: is hald running? |
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| 15:39.47 | soledad_ | ola |
| 15:39.49 | soledad_ | alguien de esapña |
| 15:39.53 | cheal | !es |
| 15:39.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 15:40.28 | tuxedup | yes nad the hald-.... are as well |
| 15:40.44 | tuv | can badblocks detect whether a low-level format has corrected any bad sectors or just zeroed them? |
| 15:40.49 | cheal | tuxedup: consider asking #debian-kde |
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| 15:41.01 | tuxedup | k thanks for the help |
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| 15:44.59 | wdamn | Hi, is there a command like sxw2pdf ? |
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| 15:45.48 | jazbo2185 | wdamn, `apt-cache search pdf | less` or something like that |
| 15:45.54 | jnik | wdamn: you can just "export to PDF" from the OO menu...or are you looking for a way to do it in a command line? |
| 15:45.55 | LSorensen | dpkg: you mean like: oowriter file.sxw; file->export->pdf ? |
| 15:45.57 | tuxedup | cheal for some reason its now working, i did a reboot and now its working ok. Thanks for the help |
| 15:46.06 | LSorensen | er wdamn |
| 15:46.11 | cheal | tuxedup: interesting, thanks for sharing |
| 15:46.28 | tuv | can badblocks detect whether a low-level format has corrected any bad sectors or just zeroed them? |
| 15:46.52 | wdamn | jnik: yes, I'm looking for a way to run it from cmd line |
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| 15:47.11 | jetscreamer | !what are you |
| 15:47.11 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 15:48.45 | thingfish | of course, it would help to know what a bloot is. |
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| 15:49.24 | LinuxHelp | how do I turn on console colours in Debian Sarge? |
| 15:49.26 | zrin | is there a howto for remastering of a (net)install CD? I'd like to add or replace the used kernel |
| 15:49.28 | jnik | wdamn: google pops up http://krapplack.de/download/sxw2pdf.html |
| 15:49.58 | wdamn | jnik: yes, I've already found it |
| 15:50.04 | wdamn | but it doesn't work |
| 15:50.06 | wdamn | :) |
| 15:50.30 | wdamn | I took a look but I didn't find the problem |
| 15:50.31 | priscila | LinuxHelp: you need to set dircolors :) |
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| 15:51.24 | abrotman | LinuxHelp: they're on by default using bash |
| 15:51.39 | priscila | LinuxHelp: man dircolors |
| 15:52.17 | stew | LinuxHelp: you should have the following in your .bashrc: alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
| 15:52.36 | stew | abrotman: take the afternoon off and go for a bikeride |
| 15:52.38 | thingfish | LinuxHelp: look in a .bashrc, it tells you how. |
| 15:52.44 | thingfish | or that |
| 15:53.18 | tuv | or maybe /etc/bash.bashrc |
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| 15:53.22 | jnik | wdamn: Hmmmm. I hear my printer running. Somehow, I doubt that did what I wanted it to :) |
| 15:53.49 | abrotman | stew: i just might |
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| 15:54.07 | wdamn | jnik: you got a pdf? |
| 15:54.16 | jnik | wdamn: no, a printout :) |
| 15:54.38 | wdamn | jnik: with sxw2pdf.sh ? |
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| 15:55.26 | abrotman | stew: and the boss says it's ok! |
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| 15:55.36 | abrotman | stew: if it's warm enough .. i may go |
| 15:55.47 | stew | abrotman: dude, it's warm enough |
| 15:55.54 | abrotman | stew: i hate being cold .. it has to be warm enough |
| 15:56.02 | jnik | wdamn: I'm not using it straight, trying to pull apart its logic. Did you put the psprint.conf in your OO user directory? |
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| 15:56.08 | thingfish | it was 85F here yesterday. |
| 15:56.19 | abrotman | stew: i don't think i'll be doing 50km .. maybe 15-20km if i'm lucky |
| 15:56.24 | abrotman | really lucky |
| 15:56.27 | pjz | is there an easy way to generate a pointer-package ala the 'python' package, that 'points' to the python2.3 package? |
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| 15:56.57 | kspath | abrotman: downhill with oxygen and glucose drip? |
| 15:57.13 | wdamn | jnik: no |
| 15:57.16 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 15:57.43 | gholen | any tips about any minimal media player, that kan be cotrilled by web-insterface, shell and GUI? |
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| 15:58.20 | kspath | gholen: wow, that is an interesting set of specifications/restrictions. |
| 15:58.53 | pjz | gholen: maybe mythtv ? |
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| 15:59.07 | odysseus | gholen: what kind of media do you need to play? |
| 15:59.51 | gholen | kspath: Yes, I want to use tha same player in all of my computers, that goes from 120 mhz 48 mb ram, and up, .mp3's, sid,s and wma. |
| 16:00.36 | abrotman | kspath: no .. but i didn't bring my bike .. and i'd have to leave here .. drive home .. rack it .. and go somewhere .. or do the hills and crap around my apartment that will kill me |
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| 16:00.47 | ecliptik | gholen, you want to stream media to each computer? |
| 16:01.21 | abrotman | the same media? |
| 16:01.27 | jnik | wdamn: you'll need to do at least that. Run it with --config-file, drop the results in .openoffice/1.1.2/user/psprint as psprint.conf and try again. ghostscript is choking on it on my machine, but you might have better luck...beyond that, you might have to email the author |
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| 16:01.59 | jnik | in the meantime, I'm going to go burn the love letter I was stupid enough to use as a test file.... |
| 16:02.01 | pjz | is there an easy way to generate a dependency package? |
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| 16:02.26 | Braindead | pjz: equivs. but you don't wanna do it,really |
| 16:02.30 | weasel00 | cant believe my ip range got banned yesterday with the spam bots =( |
| 16:02.32 | pjz | Braindead: why not? |
| 16:02.32 | cire | I want to install dri snapshots. Now, I have xserver 7.0. What are the new XORG-dir, XOrg-modules-dir, and XOrg-library dir? |
| 16:02.54 | Braindead | pjz: it's a dirty hack anyway. what's the problem ? |
| 16:02.55 | abrotman | weasel00: no .. that's not why .. we just didn't want you here |
| 16:03.09 | Braindead | pjz: I mean: "are you sure you need it?" |
| 16:03.10 | pjz | Braindead: I'm maintaining a cluster and I'd really like to be able to set them up to install the 'linux-kernel' package |
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| 16:03.37 | Braindead | pjz: that's a whole different thing |
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| 16:03.41 | pjz | Braindead: instead of having to tell them all to install linux-image-2.6.16.7 etc all the time |
| 16:04.00 | pjz | Braindead: b/c the versino number is in the package name for kernel packages that make-kpg generates |
| 16:04.03 | Braindead | pjz: there are metapackages out there... linux-image-2.6 ... |
| 16:04.31 | pjz | Braindead: well, but I need to be able to upgrade it to depend on the last new kernel image I generated |
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| 16:04.53 | lazzarello | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.53 | pjz | Braindead: so when it gets updated it pulls in the newest kernel image and leaves the older one still installed too |
| 16:04.59 | lazzarello | sorry |
| 16:05.09 | gholen | no, not stream, I want have tha same player in all af mu compuers, thats all |
| 16:05.14 | kspath | pjz: I thought most clusters preferred long tested/known kernels. |
| 16:05.15 | Braindead | pjz: ah,you've got your own apt repo with your own rolled kernels then |
| 16:05.20 | pjz | Braindead: yes |
| 16:05.44 | pjz | kspath: impossible if they run on new hardware |
| 16:05.46 | evaded | Is there an way to know if my CD burner are dead? 'k3b' and others give no errors but the CD looks always blanc. Burner have been work for long time |
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| 16:05.57 | pjz | kspath: (lack of drivers) |
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| 16:06.39 | pjz | and, unfortunately, Marvell SATA disk controllers |
| 16:06.43 | pjz | so I have to handroll my kernels |
| 16:06.48 | pjz | from something recent |
| 16:06.56 | evaded | The Burner play can play CD's but only when i burn i get some troubles. |
| 16:06.58 | pjz | ...and right now I have to run to lunch. BBL to ask more :) |
| 16:07.04 | evaded | oeps |
| 16:07.06 | pjz | Braindead: thanks for being responive :) |
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| 16:07.16 | kspath | And people ask why I say sata is not a good choice yet. |
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| 16:07.40 | ecliptik | gholen, you should check out VLC, it's cross platform, and has good codec support |
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| 16:08.06 | thingfish | my older sata is no problem, really, except for a minor issue at install time. |
| 16:08.11 | bibe | hi all. I can remember of a package that installed a nice addon to kde control center, that allowed to make gtk-native apps (such as evolution) look like a native qt app. I can't find the name of the package, any hint? |
| 16:08.11 | ecliptik | I think it runs well on lower end computers, although I don't know how well a 486 will do with high bit rate mp3s or new mpeg4 encoded files |
| 16:08.20 | Braindead | pjz: anyway equivs should do the job in order to produce a dummy package that asks for "Depends:linux-image-FOO-ROLLED" |
| 16:08.30 | gholen | ecliptik: gonna check it... can it be controlled by the wabb too? |
| 16:08.49 | sandman | I'm considering using aptitude in stable and for dist-upgrades to etch/sid, but using apt-get/dpkg for etch/sid primarily because aptitude seems to like to break things there. |
| 16:08.50 | cire | is the Xorg-Dir /usr/X11R6 still correct for xserver 7.0 ? |
| 16:08.55 | sandman | Would this be a wise decision? |
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| 16:09.18 | evaded | bibe: I guess you mean the 'GTK Styles and Fonts' in Appearance in the Kcontrol. I not remember of the package |
| 16:09.21 | Braindead | sandman: a wise decision should be aptitude install aptitude-doc and then read it |
| 16:09.21 | cahoot | cire: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 16:09.31 | cire | cahoot: thank you |
| 16:09.33 | sandman | Braindead: Seems smart. |
| 16:09.35 | jnik | bibe: are you thinking of http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/gtk-qt perhaps? |
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| 16:09.58 | wdamn | jnik: thanx a lot |
| 16:10.03 | bibe | evaded : yes, I didn't remember the exact name because I used to install it some months ago |
| 16:10.05 | sandman | So if I choose to embrace opensource, how am I supposed to deal with closed-source solutions? |
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| 16:10.13 | jnik | wdamn: good luck :) |
| 16:10.14 | sandman | They're everywhere.. I can't even go to school without having to deal with it. |
| 16:10.21 | odysseus | gholen:you can use mpg123, mpg321 on the cmd line for audio files |
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| 16:10.39 | sandman | When I do group projects for school, everyone uses things like Visio and the like, not Dia. Everything's in Word format, not Openoffice.org format. |
| 16:10.41 | bibe | jnik : I don't think it's the same package (I found it when googling for the package) |
| 16:10.42 | ecliptik | gholen, I'm not sure about that, but since it's open source there could be some plugins or apps, give a search on google of freshmeat.net |
| 16:10.50 | evaded | bibe: Idem case here, i need it also for another computer, you did me remember that i need to do. I look also now for that package, so we solve it ;-) |
| 16:10.53 | sandman | It just seems rather difficult to stand up for my ideals in a closed/privatized society. |
| 16:10.54 | gholen | odysseus: Gonna check that one too.. |
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| 16:12.13 | bibe | evaded : thanks. I'd like to get rid of the (temporary) ugly-looking evolution, without any icon, on my etch installation |
| 16:12.19 | evaded | bibe: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt ?? i go to install it an let you know |
| 16:12.30 | evaded | bibe: Same case here on another comp |
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| 16:12.40 | evaded | bibe: Moment i try it out |
| 16:12.47 | kspath | sandman: Tell them they need to buy you a computer and M$OS and the M$ applications |
| 16:12.52 | thingfish | sandman: sometimes it takes a lot of strength, and a willingness to stand alone, to be a person of principle. |
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| 16:12.59 | evaded | bibe: you can try to do an search on 'gtk' it's so that i find it, i go to test |
| 16:13.20 | kspath | sandman: Just tell them no or tell them to use an open/standard format. |
| 16:13.24 | bibe | evaded : I installed it but it didn't show up that icon and menu in kde control center |
| 16:13.34 | kspath | sandman: If one does not exist than make one and tell them to use it. |
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| 16:14.12 | kspath | sandman: They can save as RTF or you can import their crap Word docs. The visio and the like are much more difficult. |
| 16:14.24 | sandman | kspath: Indeed. It's just upsetting. |
| 16:14.34 | evaded | bibe: Reopen kcontrol?? |
| 16:14.56 | bibe | evaded : did it |
| 16:15.14 | C`Alexa | i type: apt-get update , need reboot? finish |
| 16:15.17 | C`Alexa | ?? |
| 16:15.35 | kspath | sandman: Yes, I find it annoying to. Every HR and recruiter wants your resume in word doc format. So I tell them I am PASTING my plain-text version of my resume that is online into OpenOffice and saving as a "word doc" |
| 16:15.54 | kspath | sandman: They can bite me. |
| 16:15.57 | thingfish | oh that will impress them. |
| 16:15.58 | evaded | bibe: Moment because i need to walk to another room ;-) to test it on that other one ;-) |
| 16:16.05 | kspath | thingfish: Exactly. |
| 16:16.15 | _intx | anyone here running selinux? |
| 16:16.22 | kspath | thingfish: At this point I do not care but the idiots like. |
| 16:16.34 | kspath | s/but/what/ |
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| 16:17.04 | C`Alexa | i type: apt-get update , need reboot? finish |
| 16:17.05 | gnufan | kspath: these idiots stand between you and some of the best jobs |
| 16:17.40 | kspath | gnufan: stand between is right. When they phone interview they are looking for reasons to move onto the next person. |
| 16:17.46 | bibe | evaded : after restarting kde it shows the icon, trying to tweak the settings and make icons reappear. |
| 16:17.47 | thingfish | C`Alexa: no reboot is necessary after apt-get update. or after apt-get upgrade, usually. |
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| 16:18.04 | cahoot | C`Alexa: you wonder if you need reboot after apt-get update - not if don't happen to upgraded the kernel and want to use it promptly |
| 16:18.06 | kspath | gnufan: I am not good at bull-shitting the morons on the phone. |
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| 16:18.32 | evaded | bibe: So it's been solved?? |
| 16:18.46 | evaded__ | I'm here |
| 16:18.58 | bibe | evaded: it seems so, thanks! |
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| 16:19.04 | kspath | gnufan: Each one has their own personal reasons for making their decisions and everyone is different. |
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| 16:19.21 | evaded__ | bibe, Ok it will also be solved here then ;-) |
| 16:19.26 | Dei3ian | kspath: hi how are you this morning, i was here y-day with the nick north |
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| 16:19.37 | bibe | evaded__ : ok, thanks |
| 16:19.40 | sandman | Would anyone be interested in working with me on a Free Mainframe Project? It entails building a cluster using computers that would normally have been thrown away. |
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| 16:19.46 | gnufan | kspath: just don't ever admit to having used MS Visual Test -- I admitted that to one who was looking for someone for a software testing position, turned out I was the only person he could find who had EVER used it, and I got another half dozen calls saying "sure you don't want to interview for this post?" |
| 16:19.51 | bibe | evaded__ : have a nice day/night |
| 16:20.08 | sandman | It would be open, with no legal entity. It would also have a governing body, and the hardware would be for the people who use it, by the people who use it. |
| 16:20.10 | C`Alexa | 10x |
| 16:20.16 | sandman | Would anyone be interested in that? |
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| 16:20.26 | evaded__ | bibe : iden ;-) |
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| 16:20.41 | evaded__ | shit that keyboard here |
| 16:20.51 | evaded__ | :-0 |
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| 16:21.43 | nse | sandman: what we have to do? what we are supposed to know before starting? |
| 16:21.55 | Dei3ian | okay i installed debian on this box yesturday, and i am using xfree86, my vid card is Intel 865G, I get Fatal error when i do startx, |
| 16:21.58 | mz_work | what is the recommended realtime kernel soution? realtime-lsm is unsupported now, no Debian kernels w/ rt patches (that I can find), tried to build rtai-source against 2.6.15-1-486 but it fails due to missing HAL patch - ideas? suggestions? |
| 16:22.03 | kspath | gnufan: well I have several years experience as a sysadmin for ISPs but the job market could not care less. They want AIX recent experience doing particular things with EXPENSIVE hardware/software. OR HP/UX same OR Solaris same... |
| 16:22.06 | evaded__ | bibe : Thanks to you that you have do remeber me :-) |
| 16:22.07 | Dei3ian | would like someone to help me please |
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| 16:22.35 | kspath | gnufan: I am off-topic so I will stop. |
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| 16:24.03 | proppy | Hi, is there a way to tell debootstrap not to mount /proc ? |
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| 16:25.52 | cybermike | does anyone know a good guide to automating debian installs? |
| 16:25.52 | Xteven | cybermike : look for preseeding and dash-slash-dash |
| 16:25.52 | evaded__ | cybermike, on TLDP?? |
| 16:25.52 | Xteven | I started at hands.com |
| 16:26.34 | cybermike | i jsut need something to quickly install what i call a "STandard webserver" would a specialmade package be better for that? |
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| 16:27.04 | Xteven | cybermike : you will love preseeding :) |
| 16:27.10 | glut | cybermike: check this out: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai |
| 16:27.28 | dennis_p | What is the easy way to join files, named *.001, *.002 and *.003? |
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| 16:27.44 | Xteven | *.00[123] |
| 16:27.44 | azeem | dennis_p: join in what way? |
| 16:27.54 | dennis_p | usenet split files |
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| 16:28.09 | evaded__ | Denmark, cat |
| 16:28.10 | Dei3ian | okay i installed debian on this box yesturday, and i am using xfree86, my vid card is Intel 865G, I get Fatal error when i do startx, any help please? |
| 16:28.30 | kspath | evaded__: you meant to tell dennis_p? |
| 16:28.32 | azeem | Dei3ian: it might not be supported by sarge |
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| 16:28.40 | azeem | Dei3ian: did you try the vesa driver? |
| 16:29.17 | Dei3ian | azeem: yes i tried vesa |
| 16:29.27 | azeem | and? |
| 16:29.30 | evaded__ | kspath, right! i missing |
| 16:29.47 | Dei3ian | azeem: still getting the same error |
| 16:29.51 | kspath | Dei3ian: Did you check your BIOS regarding your intel VGA support? |
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| 16:30.06 | Dei3ian | kspath: no , |
| 16:30.07 | wrtpeeps | hello, can someone tell me where debian stores temporary files? |
| 16:30.07 | azeem | paste the error from /var/log/XFree86*log to a pastebin |
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| 16:30.09 | azeem | !paster |
| 16:30.09 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 16:30.34 | evaded__ | wrtpeeps, in /tmp |
| 16:30.44 | wrtpeeps | ty |
| 16:30.49 | wrtpeeps | so i can empty /tmp safely? |
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| 16:30.59 | evaded__ | dennis_p, cat |
| 16:31.03 | Dei3ian | kspath: i'll be back sorry my boss is calling me |
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| 16:31.37 | kspath | Dei3ian: azeem asked you to pastebin your X log errors. |
| 16:31.46 | fusspils | glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible! when running 3Ddesktop. dri and glx are enabled as far as I can tell. Any idea's? |
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| 16:36.39 | wrtpeeps | can anyone tell me how much space a minimal install of debian takes up? |
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| 16:37.10 | zinx | 200mb i think, but it's not very useful either |
| 16:37.52 | zinx | i can probably trim it down a lot more |
| 16:38.03 | wrtpeeps | i need my debian to be as small as possible |
| 16:38.12 | zinx | what do you need it to do? |
| 16:38.15 | wrtpeeps | i have a vps with only 250mb(i got it off a friend) |
| 16:38.23 | wrtpeeps | *350mb |
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| 16:38.32 | wrtpeeps | and i am trying to install apache |
| 16:38.48 | zinx | what you need it to do will be extremely important.. |
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| 16:38.48 | cybermike | what about an introduction for crafting debian packages? |
| 16:38.54 | wrtpeeps | well |
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| 16:39.02 | wrtpeeps | there are a lot of packages in dpkg -l i never use |
| 16:39.08 | wrtpeeps | i suppose i an remove some of them |
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| 16:39.30 | kspath | wrtpeeps: Have you consider writing up your requirements/specifications? |
| 16:39.55 | wrtpeeps | kspath: sorry, i dont understand what you mean |
| 16:39.57 | zinx | or you can just ignore that what you need to do is extremely important and keep asking for some magical "minimal install" that works for absolutely every purpose |
| 16:39.58 | ootput | is grml still a favorite choice for emergency repair? |
| 16:40.04 | zinx | i mean, whatever. |
| 16:40.07 | ootput | of all the livecds |
| 16:40.33 | dennis_p | thanks, the cat man page is a bit too compact. But I think "cat *.001 *.002 *.003 >newname" should be the answer. |
| 16:40.36 | kspath | wrtpeeps: typing up all your requirements/specifications of what you want so you know what you want. |
| 16:40.52 | wrtpeeps | kspath: ah, no haven't done that |
| 16:41.04 | kspath | wrtpeeps: It helps to keep things clear and organized and might help others help you. |
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| 16:41.29 | kspath | wrtpeeps: If you can understand the question than maybe it can be answered effectively. |
| 16:41.48 | wrtpeeps | well, all i need it for is irssi, apache, php and mysql. But the later 2 can be scraped if absolutely necessary |
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| 16:42.34 | kspath | wrtpeeps: Do you have any ideas what is required as dependencies? What versions of apache and php and mysql? |
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| 16:43.05 | wrtpeeps | apache2.2 |
| 16:43.13 | wrtpeeps | i'll just fiddle about |
| 16:43.35 | wrtpeeps | i'm just curious as to what is taking up so much disk space |
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| 16:43.51 | kspath | wrtpeeps: If you fiddle around without keeping notes how will you replicate your work in future. What will you use as a reference? |
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| 16:44.22 | wrtpeeps | kspath: i will fiddle around _and_ keep notes then :) |
| 16:44.23 | kspath | wrtpeeps: ls and du will show you a lot of things |
| 16:44.29 | jdahm | is the kernel that is configured for you originally when you install debian a binary? |
| 16:44.50 | wrtpeeps | kspath: is ther a command to show me files exceeding a certain size? |
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| 16:45.10 | wrtpeeps | jdahm: if that was directed at me, i didn't install the os, it was installed for me :) |
| 16:45.12 | kspath | wrtpeeps: du -k and then sort |
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| 16:45.25 | jdahm | wrtpeeps: no it wasnt directedat you |
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| 16:45.33 | wrtpeeps | jdahm: sorry |
| 16:45.39 | jdahm | wrtpeeps: np |
| 16:46.44 | kspath | wrtpeeps: I think you will find not so many large files as you will find a LARGE number of small files. |
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| 16:46.45 | wrtpeeps | kspath: yea |
| 16:46.45 | kspath | wrtpeeps: du will tell you all you ever wanted to know if used effectively. |
| 16:47.16 | kspath | wrtpeeps: perhaps you can start to understand by getting du totals for directories. |
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| 16:47.33 | wrtpeeps | so, du -k shows me the size in KB? |
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| 16:47.48 | kspath | wrtpeeps: perhaps you can use perl or python or toerh if you will do these kinds of things a lot. |
| 16:47.54 | kspath | wrtpeeps: yes it does. |
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| 16:48.06 | kingspawn | hm, how can i stop loggin of -- MARK -- stuff? |
| 16:48.19 | kspath | kingspawn: syslog.conf |
| 16:48.43 | kspath | kingspawn: man syslogs and syslog |
| 16:48.49 | kspath | syslogd |
| 16:49.16 | kingspawn | kspath: guess i'll have to, cant find what im looking for immediately in syslog.conf :) |
| 16:49.19 | kingspawn | thanks |
| 16:49.24 | kspath | kingspawn: man syslog.conf also |
| 16:49.29 | jdahm | what command tells me which kernel I am running? |
| 16:49.34 | kingspawn | jdahm: uname -r |
| 16:49.39 | kspath | kingspawn: there are a ton of useful features in those man pages. |
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| 16:49.51 | kingspawn | kspath: will read. actually, i'll print :) |
| 16:50.00 | jdahm | kingsley: I didnt know stable debian ran a 2.4 kernel |
| 16:50.08 | kspath | kingspawn: for less heavy loads there is syslog-ng |
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| 16:50.19 | zinx | jdahm: it'll run either |
| 16:50.34 | zinx | jdahm: the installer defaults to 2.4 |
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| 16:50.41 | jdahm | zinx: I never specified during installtion though |
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| 16:50.55 | zasr | You can type linux26 to install with 2.6 |
| 16:51.03 | ILF_ | that's why. for 2.6 you need to enter "linux26" at boot |
| 16:51.09 | agney | who can ask to change my cloack on freenode ? |
| 16:51.26 | jengelh | !clock |
| 16:51.27 | dpkg | [clock] a device which reads out the time |
| 16:51.28 | wrtpeeps | 106400KB = ~103MB, correct? |
| 16:51.32 | kspath | kingspawn: logrotation with YYYY-MM-DD-HH-MM.logtype can be VERY useful as well. |
| 16:51.40 | jengelh | !date |
| 16:51.40 | dpkg | The current date is 2006.04.19 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 16:51.45 | kingspawn | kspath: good idea |
| 16:51.45 | jengelh | there goes your freenode clock |
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| 16:51.52 | keck0f | hi. |
| 16:51.57 | agney | jengelh, I mean my hostname |
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| 16:52.03 | agney | !cloack |
| 16:52.03 | jengelh | !hostname |
| 16:52.03 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 16:52.06 | MrMuscolo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.23 | agney | jengelh, this n=agney@unaffiliated/agney |
| 16:52.33 | jengelh | that's a cloak |
| 16:52.34 | kspath | wrtpeeps: There is -h instead but sort will not be as effective with -h as with -k |
| 16:52.45 | ILF_ | agney: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks |
| 16:52.53 | agney | jengelh, thanks. but my english is very poor |
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| 16:53.32 | wrtpeeps | woa, apache sources are 73mb ?! |
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| 16:53.43 | MrMuscolo | hello. anyone instelled the free pascal package? 'caz i'm having problems... it installes O.K., but when i try using the IDE it complains about not finding the System unit... |
| 16:53.50 | kspath | kingspawn: in some cases logrotation with YYYY-MM-DD-HH-MM.logtype.hostname can be VERY useful as well. |
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| 16:54.37 | MrMuscolo | anyone??.... |
| 16:54.40 | kspath | kingspawn: For historical reasons hostnames might not be the best way. Sometimes MAC address is better |
| 16:54.48 | jengelh | noone!!.... |
| 16:54.52 | kspath | !anyone |
| 16:54.52 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 16:55.00 | agney | I wanna know who is the contact of debian group cloak |
| 16:55.22 | kingspawn | kspath: interesting, and good to know. what are the historical reasons, if i might ask? |
| 16:55.29 | MrMuscolo | hello. anyone instelled the free pascal package? 'caz i'm having problems... it installes O.K., but when i try using the IDE it complains about not finding the System unit... |
| 16:55.49 | MrMuscolo | (for the 3rd time) sry |
| 16:55.52 | mentor | Is there someone using Atheros wireless cards that I can ask a favour from? |
| 16:56.03 | kspath | kingspawn: You reuse/recycle hostnames. You include hosts from another org .... so many other reasons. |
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| 16:56.10 | rue_mohr | good morning |
| 16:56.35 | kingspawn | kspath: yeah, i see |
| 16:56.38 | tarzeau | abrotman: ecksdee is crap |
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| 16:56.45 | kspath | kingspawn: some people keep their logs around for years for various legal and other reasons. |
| 16:56.47 | POVaddct | mentor: i am using this card |
| 16:57.10 | mentor | POVaddct, Are you using it as an access pint? |
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| 16:57.21 | POVaddct | mentor: not very often |
| 16:57.48 | mentor | POVaddct, hmmm. |
| 16:57.57 | POVaddct | mentor: what's the problem? |
| 16:58.05 | mentor | POVaddct, What kind of interface do you have created at the moment? |
| 16:58.08 | kspath | kingspawn: even the same hardware could be reused so the same MAC address and maillogs from when it was a mailserver and later when it was an apache with postfix might have same identification only differing by date. |
| 16:58.24 | kingspawn | kspath: heh, good point |
| 16:58.32 | POVaddct | mentor: i don't use the madwifi-ng driver, i use the old madwifi one |
| 16:58.35 | mentor | POVaddct, ah |
| 16:58.41 | mentor | POVaddct, Sorry, never mind :) |
| 16:58.53 | POVaddct | mentor: my interface is always called ath0 |
| 16:59.07 | kspath | kingspawn: It is a good idea to literally log into syslog when machines are going offline and host changes and various other things. Even installation of software/packages. |
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| 16:59.20 | mentor | POVaddct, Yeah, I'm testing some changes to madwifi-ng |
| 16:59.34 | kspath | kingspawn: syslogging is udp by default and lossy so be careful your mileage may vary |
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| 17:00.04 | POVaddct | mentor: i see no point in using madwifi-ng. i don't like the need of the special config tool. |
| 17:00.44 | nicoco | please help me : i've just formatted my 80 gb HD and gtkdiskfree indicates that its capacity is 73,36 G... i don't understand |
| 17:01.01 | mentor | POVaddct, New madwifi-ng builds can autocreate a ath0 interface with your choice of mode |
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| 17:01.13 | jengelh | nicoco : Manufacturers lie about sizes. |
| 17:01.28 | POVaddct | mentor: so config can be done with iwconfig only? |
| 17:01.31 | kspath | nicoco: They round up. |
| 17:01.33 | mentor | POVaddct, yes. |
| 17:01.34 | jengelh | Your "80 GB" are just 74.50 GB. After formatting, 73.36 looks normal. |
| 17:01.37 | POVaddct | mentor: good |
| 17:01.52 | dolor | Does anybody happen to know why I cannot copy highlighted text from my xterm session and paste it into other applications, e.g. firefox ? |
| 17:02.02 | nicoco | yes but FDISK tells me the disk is "Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes" |
| 17:02.05 | nethenson | nicoco: 80GB are if you consider the GB=1000M (like manunfacturers do) ; linux consider 1GB=1024M |
| 17:02.15 | jengelh | dolor: works for me. However, when Firefox starts up, it clears the X clipboard. |
| 17:02.21 | kspath | nicoco: It would have been more honest for them to say 70GB but your file system has some impact as well |
| 17:03.02 | nicoco | is ext3 a good choice ... and 73,36*1024*1024*1024=78769700208 |
| 17:03.03 | jengelh | because fdisk uses 1000s |
| 17:03.10 | kspath | nicoco: When you format and partition you use some space. |
| 17:03.14 | keck0f | could you help? I try since April 12th to install xorg on sid-amd64 but there seem to be still broken package-depencies. "apt-get install xorg xutils xserver-xorg x11-common" provokes "x11-common: collides: xutils (<= 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 should be installed", "xorg: depends on: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 should be installed" and "E: Broken packages" (freely translated). Could you help? |
| 17:03.19 | Trewas | the harddive manufacturers are about the only ones who use the correct units, I'd hope that some day operating systems would catch up to the decimal system instead of using binary units for no reason... |
| 17:03.22 | agney | I installed snmpd on sid and it just answer localy. anyone knows how can I change it to query from another machine ? |
| 17:03.26 | dolor | jengelh: I have a feeling that it has something to do with the DISPLAY variable |
| 17:03.36 | jengelh | dolor: No. |
| 17:03.46 | sandman | is there a company out there that does backups? |
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| 17:04.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: did you get it compiled? |
| 17:04.09 | jengelh | nicoco : XFS turns a 244605690k device into 244486196k usable space... if it is worse with ext3, well, then it's how it is. |
| 17:04.09 | tarzeau | sandman: sure |
| 17:04.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: win32 binary |
| 17:04.18 | sandman | tarzeau: What would you recommend? |
| 17:04.28 | abrotman | tarzeau: eh? |
| 17:04.29 | tarzeau | sandman: do it yourself |
| 17:04.38 | sandman | I needed a company to take care of it. |
| 17:04.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've tested the gameplay on Microsoft Windows |
| 17:04.54 | sandman | I'm taking a class, and they insist that we use companies. |
| 17:04.55 | tarzeau | sandman: how much data? |
| 17:04.57 | sandman | It's lame, yes I know. |
| 17:04.57 | kspath | nicoco: If you used it as raw disk and let something like oracle have at it it would still waste space because no matter what there will be some structure and that structure must be store on the drive itself. |
| 17:05.02 | tarzeau | sandman: what country? what do you pay? |
| 17:05.31 | nicoco | do i have more space if I use FAT ? |
| 17:05.41 | tarzeau | nicoco: no |
| 17:05.45 | jengelh | nicoco: Fat only supports like 38 GB IIRC |
| 17:05.50 | dolor | jengelh: Thanks for the info. |
| 17:05.52 | sandman | any country, any pay |
| 17:05.57 | tarzeau | jengelh: that's not true |
| 17:06.07 | tarzeau | sandman: ok |
| 17:06.12 | jengelh | Hm, then it was DOS FDISK that only does 38 G |
| 17:06.29 | tarzeau | sandman: the backup machine is in switzerland. you pay by size of data and times of upload/download |
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| 17:07.02 | tarzeau | sandman: send me the details about size/times/address/prepay amount to gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
| 17:07.06 | tarzeau | sandman: and i'll make you an offer |
| 17:07.20 | nicoco | why does fdisk tells me "5165 unallocated sectors" when i create my partition ? doesn't this have something to do with my pb ?? |
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| 17:10.12 | norbert | question: |
| 17:10.13 | norbert | does oss also have a +20dB mic in-gain, or only alsa? |
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| 17:10.41 | sandman | tarzeau: Okay. |
| 17:10.43 | cire | I read http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7, but still don't know which dirs I should give dri-snapshot install script. (xorg dir, xorg modules dir, xorg library dir). /usr/X11R6 is given as default, but I upgraded to xserver 7.0, so I think those have changed. Does anybody know which dirs I should use? |
| 17:11.01 | TBBle | norbert: answer: That's actually a function of the sound card, not ALSA per se. I don't think OSS gives you an _interface_ to it, but I could be wrong. |
| 17:11.04 | rue_mohr | is there a package for kernel 2.6.16? I cant find it |
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| 17:11.20 | norbert | TBBle, hum, okay, thanks |
| 17:11.30 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: 2.6.16.what ? |
| 17:11.38 | rue_mohr | anything really |
| 17:11.40 | rue_mohr | 9 |
| 17:11.46 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: yes i have one such package |
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| 17:12.16 | rue_mohr | ok, whats it filed under? |
| 17:12.19 | rue_mohr | unstable? |
| 17:12.22 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: huh? |
| 17:12.27 | kspath | sandman: your school is trying to teach you how to outsource and deal with remote entities with money and contracts rather than letting you learning how to do those things that you are outsourcing? |
| 17:12.30 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: it's only on my computer |
| 17:12.32 | rue_mohr | testing? |
| 17:12.33 | rue_mohr | ah |
| 17:12.36 | rue_mohr | hmm |
| 17:12.39 | TBBle | linux-image-2.6.16-<subarch>? |
| 17:12.47 | TBBle | In unstable... |
| 17:12.53 | rue_mohr | I'll just download from kernel.org, thanks |
| 17:12.53 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: 9 just cam out about today. it could only be in testing in 10 days |
| 17:12.59 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: good idea |
| 17:13.02 | rue_mohr | ah, heh |
| 17:13.11 | ILF | there's only a 2.6.12-1-k7 (package -7), but i guess it's like .5 |
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| 17:13.30 | rue_mohr | hmm, I'm being told to go with the latest, I dont like bleeding edge... |
| 17:13.33 | ILF | -<arch> actually |
| 17:13.42 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: HUH? |
| 17:13.46 | TBBle | -686/-k7 is an arch? |
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| 17:13.51 | tarzeau | rue_mohr: what's the difference between latest and bleeding edge? |
| 17:13.52 | sandman | kspath: Yup. |
| 17:14.01 | TBBle | I missed -1- also... |
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| 17:14.15 | kspath | sandman: That was a yes? |
| 17:14.30 | rue_mohr | not much |
| 17:14.35 | sandman | I think what you'll find is that economics is self-serving, and is generally crippling for human beings. It all starts with the fact that parents are not able to raise their own children, but the end-result is a mentally crippled human being. |
| 17:15.09 | sandman | tarzeau: sent. |
| 17:15.11 | kspath | sandman: by extension a mentally-crippled nation? |
| 17:15.52 | tarzeau | abrotman: HAHAHA |
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| 17:16.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: ecksee has their 3d models as XML!!!! |
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| 17:16.08 | tarzeau | EEEX EEEMMM ELLLL!!!!! |
| 17:16.09 | nicoco | sorry to insist but i find it very strange to loose so many gbs just because of 1024 instead of 1000 ! |
| 17:16.14 | tarzeau | abrotman: are they gay? |
| 17:16.34 | grendal_prime | hey, there is this website that my daughter plays dora the explorer games on...pretty cool... but there are videos she cant watch on it because there is a java script that launches windows media player. is there any way to fake that out? |
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| 17:16.50 | tarzeau | grendal_prime: no. use windows |
| 17:16.58 | Shadowcat | nicoco: if you knew the binary number system, you would understand |
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| 17:17.03 | Shadowcat | !beat tarzeau |
| 17:17.17 | Shadowcat | grendal_prime: try kaffeine |
| 17:17.31 | Shadowcat | you need to run KDE for it to properly integrate though |
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| 17:17.32 | sandman | kspath: No, a mentally crippled world. |
| 17:17.33 | grendal_prime | tarzeau, did you smoke crack this moring |
| 17:17.39 | grendal_prime | morning |
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| 17:17.43 | tarzeau | abrotman: and stendahl has a bunch of .jar files |
| 17:17.48 | tarzeau | grendal_prime: no. how come? |
| 17:17.53 | Shadowcat | and by kaffeine I mean Kaffiene the program, not the drink |
| 17:17.59 | sandman | kspath: This has been going on for thousands of years, ever since Ancient Sumeria and more accurately the invention of currency. |
| 17:18.01 | Shadowcat | err Kaffeine |
| 17:18.10 | grendal_prime | Shadowcat, the kde is not a problem, and i do have mplayer plugin working in it. and that works fine |
| 17:18.12 | tarzeau | grendal_prime: NOBODY stores 3d data as XML. this is the first time i've seen that shit. THEY must've smoked some pretty bad crack |
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| 17:18.14 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's java .. so what? |
| 17:18.25 | tarzeau | abrotman: you smoked crack too? |
| 17:18.31 | grendal_prime | are you saying that kaffeine addresses that type of problem. |
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| 17:18.40 | abrotman | tarzeau: you beat your secretary .. you can package java |
| 17:18.47 | redmonkey | i have just removed all fontpath entries out of the xorg.conf file and all font modules and font servers also and i have restarted x but still all fonts are loaded.. how is this possible? i even have rebooted the whole system.. |
| 17:18.47 | Shadowcat | grendal_prime: I've used it successfully to replace WMP plugins |
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| 17:18.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: i like to spank her. but i don't like java |
| 17:18.57 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 17:18.59 | stew | tarzeau: they store it in vrml instead? :) |
| 17:18.59 | tarzeau | abrotman: but maybe she can package it |
| 17:19.01 | abrotman | you like debian .. package it! |
| 17:19.02 | grendal_prime | ill give it a try |
| 17:19.10 | TBBle | Sure you can store 3D data as XML. You print it out, cut along the lines, and get one of those neat Buckyball models. |
| 17:19.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: did you try the java with a free java thingy? |
| 17:19.26 | tarzeau | abrotman: you know i only have sun java on my windows |
| 17:19.29 | Shadowcat | 3D Coordinate data can be stored as XML |
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| 17:19.38 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: it is HILARIOUS! |
| 17:19.40 | Shadowcat | I'm not sure how readable that'd be though |
| 17:19.41 | shogunx | stew x3d was made to "replace" vrml. |
| 17:19.42 | pjotr77 | does anybody know if it is allowed to use strong crypto in ukraine? (like ssh, gpg)? |
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| 17:20.04 | stew | shogunx: i thought common sense was the thing replacing vrml :) |
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| 17:20.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: kaffe? |
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| 17:20.30 | stew | speaking of java /me goes to make a cup |
| 17:20.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: i don't drink coffee, i'll rather take a beer though |
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| 17:21.02 | shogunx | stew i kind of liked vrml, actually. it was pretty cool for its day, even if bandwidth, processor power, and graphics capability on the client side were not ready for it in 97 |
| 17:21.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: you make me sick. bitch |
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| 17:21.32 | sandman | kspath: Why do you ask? |
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| 17:22.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: ok |
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| 17:22.51 | shogunx | abrotman send him some cookies with epson slats in them... that will make him sick. |
| 17:22.59 | MatBoy | What is a nice IRC-client under KDE ? |
| 17:23.07 | tarzeau | MatBoy: irssi |
| 17:23.09 | sandman | Something weird is going on with freeciv and firefox. |
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| 17:23.21 | pjotr77 | MBoy: ksirc |
| 17:23.23 | grendal_prime | hey Shadowcat this is the url http://www.nickjr.com/nickvision/playtime/noplayer.jhtml |
| 17:23.28 | sandman | If I start firefox, then freeciv, firefox stops responding. If I start freeciv then firefox, freeciv stops responding. |
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| 17:23.36 | grendal_prime | oops thats not right hold on |
| 17:23.49 | MatBoy | I'm using that now... Xchat under windows is better if I may say :) |
| 17:24.18 | jmartens | Hi all. |
| 17:24.21 | abrotman | shogunx: i could just send him some budwieser |
| 17:24.27 | grendal_prime | Shadowcat, try this one http://www.nickjr.com/playtime/cats/video/index.jhtml |
| 17:24.32 | pjotr77 | fine! but's it's only text, anyway |
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| 17:24.56 | shogunx | abrotman good old poison in a can. a case full of benzene laden coca cola to go with it. |
| 17:25.03 | jmartens | I'm setting up ldap authentication to an Active Directory LDAP server, and I have it authenticating to the point that when a user logs in, they get a shell. |
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| 17:25.10 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:25.21 | jmartens | But then it immediately kicks them out after the user types or does anything. |
| 17:25.55 | abrotman | anything? |
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| 17:26.26 | jmartens | Any thoughts? |
| 17:26.34 | kspath | jmartens: AD is icky? |
| 17:26.52 | jmartens | kspath: I'm sorry? |
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| 17:27.11 | kspath | jmartens: I was being flippant/teasing/joking/silly. |
| 17:27.24 | jmartens | kspath: Ah. Well, yes, I agree. :) |
| 17:27.31 | jmartens | kspath: I'm not doing this for fun... :( |
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| 17:28.22 | sandman | firefox sure does crash a lot. |
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| 17:28.52 | morbius | how would I swich (and would it be bad idea) from the amd64 kernel to the i386? I have found some packages that I want that are unavailable for amd64 |
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| 17:29.05 | tarzeau | sandman: ack |
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| 17:29.09 | tarzeau | sandman: tried links2 yet? |
| 17:29.13 | kspath | sandman: You are blaming firefox? |
| 17:29.22 | tarzeau | kspath: so am i! |
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| 17:29.54 | sandman | kspath: I'm going to build it from source to see if it helps |
| 17:30.01 | kspath | tarzeau: oddly, I have had not trouble with linksw or lynx or w3m or dillo or galeon or firefox. |
| 17:30.14 | sandman | apt-get build-dep firefox && apt-get -b source firefox && dpkg -i |
| 17:30.14 | kspath | links2 |
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| 17:30.35 | tarzeau | kspath: firefox crashes for me |
| 17:30.41 | azeem | sandman: what would that help? |
| 17:30.43 | buffoon | hi! I want to install the nvidia-glx package, but that conflicts with the xorg package (I'm using sid). Is there a possibility to check with which version of xorg does conflict with xorg and to downgrade xorg? |
| 17:30.46 | Morden | can a "normal" user create hardlinks? |
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| 17:30.56 | sandman | azeem: Sometimes it builds different |
| 17:31.02 | kspath | tarzeau: Is it the application or the version and environment? |
| 17:31.11 | tarzeau | kspath: it is the application |
| 17:31.23 | bolsh | Morden: Yes, if they have write permissions to the directory, and read permissions for the file |
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| 17:31.37 | zumbi | !hi |
| 17:31.37 | dpkg | hello, zumbi |
| 17:31.37 | bolsh | And I'm not sure about the second part |
| 17:31.55 | sandman | If I have ccache installed, and I use apt-get -b source firefox, will that not use ccache? |
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| 17:32.33 | Morden | @blosh: Thx... I created a separte user to run rsync backups and want to apply this incremental strategy: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ |
| 17:32.35 | bolsh | sandman: Don't you have to set CC="ccache gcc" first? |
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| 17:32.48 | zumbi | i log to a system, then i do ctrl+d and it tells $ exit in the shell but it doesn't exit until i do ctrl+d another time. Could this behaviour be some evil script somebody has put on me? |
| 17:32.48 | cheal | buffoon: nvidia-glx shouldn't conflict with xorg |
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| 17:33.02 | bhony | hello..? |
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| 17:33.52 | buffoon | cheal: if I type in apt-get install nvidia-glx it says me that it will remove the packages x-window-system-core and xserver-xorg |
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| 17:36.02 | bhony | nm.. i'm checking google.. |
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| 17:36.40 | cheal | buffoon: due to which conflict? |
| 17:36.45 | plugwash | does dpkgs sshd timeout idle sessions by default? |
| 17:36.50 | plugwash | and if so how can i turn it off? |
| 17:36.57 | plugwash | *debians sshd |
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| 17:36.58 | azeem | dpkgs? |
| 17:37.00 | azeem | ah |
| 17:37.13 | sandman | bolsh: Is there a way to make this permanent? |
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| 17:38.10 | bolsh | sandman: I'm afraid I don't know |
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| 17:38.36 | buffoon | cheal: could you join #flood? so I past the output from apt-get |
| 17:39.01 | flosch | hi |
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| 17:40.00 | cheal | buffoon: which version of xserver-xorg do you have? |
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| 17:40.19 | buffoon | ii xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 the X.Org X server |
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| 17:41.03 | RvGaTe | yo, i have a question regarding a package de-installation, i used apt-get remove mysql --purge... but all the configuration files in /etc/mysql are still there... what did i miss? |
| 17:41.09 | cheal | buffoon: which version of nvidia-glx is APT considering for install? |
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| 17:41.34 | Shadowcat | mysql is a meta-packag |
| 17:41.35 | Shadowcat | e |
| 17:41.43 | Shadowcat | if you want to purge sql, you need to purge sql-server |
| 17:41.43 | MatBoy | Could it be that I have a problem with a driver when I don't get any sceen on my monitor connected to a Matrox G200 ? |
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| 17:42.19 | buffoon | apt-cache show nvidia-glx says 1.0.7174-3. later versions won't work because I'm using an old nvidia tnt2 |
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| 17:42.30 | RvGaTe | Shadowcat: that xplains allot, thx |
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| 17:43.02 | cheal | buffoon: ?? nvidia-glx 1.0.7174-3 left sid since a long time |
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| 17:43.29 | abrotman | the nv driver in xorg7 doesn't do 3d with that card? |
| 17:43.32 | john_do1 | I have /home on an external hd (sda1). At boot, it does not find the device. I must plug it out and plug it in to make it show up and that is impossible because it's a server. What can be wrong? |
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| 17:43.51 | abrotman | http://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R7.0/doc/html/nv.4.html |
| 17:44.16 | nickt | Hi, lintian gives me a warning like this "W: ngdel: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/share/ngdel/t39.bmp". Is this normal, can I d anything about this? |
| 17:44.22 | abrotman | john_do1: put the modules in your /etc/modules .. see if that helps |
| 17:44.25 | buffoon | cheal: is there a possibility to install this package? |
| 17:44.32 | Shadowcat | john_do1: don't put debian on an external usb hd |
| 17:44.34 | Shadowcat | it's BAD |
| 17:44.39 | abrotman | john_do1: it has to load those modules before attempting to mount /home/ |
| 17:44.41 | cheal | abrotman: *2*D |
| 17:44.43 | faber2 | can i shrink /dev/sda1 and have some new partition between /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 ? |
| 17:44.45 | abrotman | Shadowcat: there are worse ideas |
| 17:44.54 | abrotman | cheal: is that a wonky canadian smile? |
| 17:45.00 | Shadowcat | abrotman: yes but this one is pretty bad |
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| 17:45.13 | abrotman | cheal: oh .. nm |
| 17:45.15 | faber2 | or: can an /dev/sda3 lay between /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 ? |
| 17:45.25 | john_do1 | abrotman: yes, thanks |
| 17:45.29 | cheal | abrotman: canadian smile looks like >:o] |
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| 17:45.55 | mctag | loey all |
| 17:46.16 | abrotman | Shadowcat: there was the guy who wanted to remove all passwords |
| 17:46.36 | Shadowcat | abrotman: that's stupid |
| 17:46.45 | Shadowcat | but it's easier than booting a server off usb |
| 17:46.53 | Shadowcat | or what faber2's trying to do |
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| 17:46.56 | swim | hi folks, I recently installed a package I found on: deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian etch main contrib non-free restricted called: sun-j2se5.0-jre-binary_1.5.0.06-1duo1_i386.deb, then iinstalled my limewire (that usually works) aand when I now run limewire I get: errors that it can find the Hava exec... |
| 17:46.57 | cheal | buffoon: probably not. anyway, you seriously need to update your non-free package index |
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| 17:46.59 | iDP | hi |
| 17:46.59 | mctag | hi i suffer from a raid problem ... |
| 17:47.18 | iDP | I need a debian repository with latest progz, anyone ? |
| 17:47.23 | Shadowcat | swim: we don't support unofficial packages |
| 17:47.24 | faber2 | Shadowcat: hey! |
| 17:47.25 | iDP | !repository |
| 17:47.25 | dpkg | debian repository is, like, a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
| 17:47.28 | mctag | i try to setup 2.4 with a raid1 |
| 17:47.31 | Shadowcat | iDP: Why do you need the latest programs? |
| 17:47.38 | mctag | but the installer sukkz |
| 17:47.41 | cheal | !tell iDP about msg the bot |
| 17:47.46 | Shadowcat | and if you say "because I want to" we so won't help you |
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| 17:48.04 | iDP | I need unstable !! section |
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| 17:48.08 | Shadowcat | again |
| 17:48.11 | Shadowcat | WHY do you need it |
| 17:48.18 | swim | Shadowcat, understood, then could you direct me to an official how to for installing latest java? |
| 17:48.20 | disposable | faber2, yes, sda3 can be between 1 and 2 |
| 17:48.21 | sandman | GNOME menus don't appear to be aware of changes I make to the filesystem. |
| 17:48.23 | sandman | Like installation of new games. |
| 17:48.27 | Shadowcat | swim: read the topic |
| 17:48.27 | Ronin | iDP: why? usually if you ask to ask how to get unstable you really shouldn't |
| 17:48.44 | azeem | sandman: only when those games ship appropriate .desktop files, AFAIK |
| 17:48.46 | iDP | I found some useful progz bvut couldnt get them |
| 17:49.08 | iDP | I must add the repository to synaptic |
| 17:49.12 | swim | Shad0wcat, about the bot? |
| 17:49.20 | Shadowcat | ok STOP right there |
| 17:49.23 | Ronin | iDP: oh thats a really really bad idea, mixing |
| 17:49.24 | faber2 | disposable: alright, thanks |
| 17:49.28 | Shadowcat | iDP: you are NOT skilled enough to run unstable |
| 17:49.28 | azeem | iDP: are you aware of the implications of running unstable? |
| 17:49.31 | LSorensen | sandman: I think gnome may only update menus when you log in |
| 17:49.38 | azeem | Shadowcat: how can you tell? |
| 17:49.40 | Shadowcat | swim: yes |
| 17:49.43 | iDP | my box is for testing |
| 17:49.51 | Shadowcat | azeem: </sarcasm> :P |
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| 17:50.08 | iDP | It wont threat my important work, it is just a box for exploring |
| 17:50.11 | mctag | shadow: unoffical is a must because for etc. raid are not in 2.4 or ? |
| 17:50.23 | swim | thx Shad0wcat |
| 17:50.39 | iDP | so u will net tell me ? |
| 17:50.44 | iDP | weird |
| 17:51.00 | iDP | linux community is all about sharing and help |
| 17:51.05 | Shadowcat | iDP: no, probably not |
| 17:51.11 | Shadowcat | because you're not skilled enough to run unstable |
| 17:51.16 | Ronin | iDP: its also about trying to help folks not bork thier system |
| 17:51.26 | iDP | who changed the rule to sarcasm and bashing |
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| 17:51.37 | action09 | Shad0wcat hehe im too dumb to run unstable too but i use it for 4 years :) |
| 17:51.37 | azeem | iDP: did you read the documentation for synaptic? |
| 17:51.39 | iDP | man my box is for testing |
| 17:51.41 | Shadowcat | and we don't have the time to troublesort every little problem you're gonna get running unstable |
| 17:51.43 | Nemoder | iDP: first I'd try downloading the .deb file from http://packages.debian.org and see if that works with testing |
| 17:51.50 | azeem | Shadowcat: so ignore him |
| 17:51.51 | iDP | I have my important work!! on another pc |
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| 17:52.00 | action09 | Shad0wcat maybe i'm reading the fine manual.. or a little doc too :) |
| 17:52.02 | azeem | no need to bash their skills or intelligence |
| 17:52.04 | iDP | i want to know whats there, test new projects .. |
| 17:52.25 | azeem | iDP: you replace 'stable' or 'testing' with 'unstable' |
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| 17:52.43 | iDP | Nemoder i did |
| 17:52.57 | sandman | If I have two deb-src lines in sources.list, one being testing and the other being unstable, the -t flag still applies, yes? |
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| 17:53.10 | sandman | so apt-get -t sid source whatever will grab the sid sources for wahtever |
| 17:53.13 | mctag | hey , i preciate the moral disc in here ... but can some1 help me ? |
| 17:53.20 | sandman | Whereas apt-get -t etch source whatever will grab the etch sources |
| 17:53.23 | azeem | sandman: check the versions to make sure |
| 17:53.41 | iDP | aha |
| 17:53.53 | azeem | 19:41 < mctag> but the installer sukkz |
| 17:54.06 | iDP | is sid repos. for latest additions ? |
| 17:54.08 | azeem | mctag: maybe you should be a bit more friendly and/or verbose? |
| 17:54.15 | RvGaTe | How do i change configuration files back to their default settings? (just like if it was freshly installed) |
| 17:54.26 | Shadowcat | RvGaTe: err, you don't |
| 17:54.30 | swim | is java-package even being made available anymore? |
| 17:54.38 | cheal | swim: yes |
| 17:54.40 | azeem | iDP: you are asking quite a lot of FAQs here, did you try to read up on stuff at e.g. www.debian.org? |
| 17:54.45 | Nemoder | RvGaTe: you'll have to --purge the package and reinstall it |
| 17:54.47 | Shadowcat | I used it yesturday, so, umm ya :P |
| 17:54.58 | iDP | ok |
| 17:55.04 | swim | cheal... odd what repo must I have (etch here) to be able to find it? |
| 17:55.14 | cheal | swim: contrib section |
| 17:55.14 | mctag | azeem: sorry tried a couple of other networks with no results |
| 17:55.28 | RvGaTe | Nemoder: Shad0wcat, i did use purge for uninstalling, but now it cant start a package becouse there are configuration files missing... |
| 17:55.43 | disposable | RvGaTe, is it a system application or a normal user one? |
| 17:55.44 | abrotman | !moo |
| 17:55.44 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 17:55.50 | RvGaTe | disposable: system |
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| 17:55.53 | mctag | azeem: and i tryed also google before =) |
| 17:55.55 | tomplast | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:56.11 | disposable | RvGaTe, then purging it should be enough |
| 17:56.12 | kspath | !tell abrotman about abrotman |
| 17:56.16 | RvGaTe | disposable: or could be user, not really sure... |
| 17:56.19 | mctag | tomlast:ultraedit |
| 17:56.28 | disposable | RvGaTe, what is it? |
| 17:56.28 | jnik | iDP: if there are a few particular programs that you need more current versions than are in unstable, you can try http://www.backports.org/ --a little less drastic than going to unstable |
| 17:56.29 | azeem | mctag: AFAICT, you didn't explain your problem yet |
| 17:56.30 | tomplast | thanks :) |
| 17:56.31 | Nemoder | RvGaTe: if dpkg can no longer function you will probably have to reinstall the system |
| 17:56.49 | jnik | iDP: er, I mean, more current versions than are in stable |
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| 17:56.54 | iDP | I think, and I might be wrong, that from an economical point of view!! on time and effort.. if we answer a qs rather than going into preaching.. this will be much profitable |
| 17:56.54 | RvGaTe | disposable: its mysql... |
| 17:57.07 | swim | thx cheal |
| 17:57.13 | azeem | iDP: thanks for your input |
| 17:57.22 | RvGaTe | Nemoder: shouldn't apt-get install create default configuration files? |
| 17:57.40 | iDP | u welcome :) |
| 17:57.41 | buffoon | cheal: I'm upgrading atm... thanks for your help. |
| 17:57.45 | Nemoder | RvGaTe: it's up to each package to provide them |
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| 17:57.54 | cheal | buffoon: nice |
| 17:57.58 | azeem | iDP: from an econimcal point of view it's also much better if people look up answers themselves instead of letting others answer them for them who could improve |
| 17:58.04 | azeem | Debian in the meantime |
| 17:58.35 | kspath | !tell iDP about u |
| 17:58.40 | tomplast | mctag: is there any .debs for it? |
| 17:58.49 | iDP | azeem thats true too.. but i would answer then tip |
| 17:58.56 | Nemoder | http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/04/19/1235227.shtml |
| 17:59.12 | tomplast | mctag: i looked at the site, is it even for linux? |
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| 17:59.49 | iDP | hhhhhh |
| 18:00.01 | iDP | man u get bashed for typing u , wow |
| 18:00.16 | kspath | iDP: Your h key might be broken. |
| 18:00.17 | cusco | u do |
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| 18:00.51 | azeem | iDP: the people who stay in this channel several hours a day (without getting paid for it) would at least like to read proper english, if possible |
| 18:01.17 | disposable | RvGaTe, if "dpkg --purge mysql-whatever" has no effect, check if you have a user called mysql and try to deluser him/her with all their files. |
| 18:01.25 | iDP | I know and it is appreciated |
| 18:01.29 | abrotman | azeem: i know i would! |
| 18:01.31 | kspath | iDP: We are not asking for perfect English. Just something that indicates someone is not lazy and can communicate. |
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| 18:01.47 | abrotman | yeah .. you don't have to use capital letters :) |
| 18:02.02 | azeem | kspath: so you say Prince is lazy and cannot communicate? |
| 18:02.06 | kspath | !tell abrotman about CAPITALS |
| 18:02.15 | abrotman | !tell kspath about capslock |
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| 18:02.24 | kspath | hehehe |
| 18:02.24 | simonrvn | CAPSLOCK war |
| 18:02.40 | simonrvn | !start a capslock war |
| 18:02.42 | disposable | wHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE ON ABOUT? |
| 18:02.55 | iDP | I have a comment on that, but I will go over it |
| 18:02.58 | tomplast | anyone else who knows any good graphical hex editor in linux with comparing functions? |
| 18:03.01 | simonrvn | hey i thought dpkg would reply |
| 18:03.02 | SpComb | i don#t know11 |
| 18:03.20 | Nemoder | tomplast: I'm not sure about comparing but ghex2 is a nice graphical editor |
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| 18:03.34 | mrobache | hello there, I'm looking for a sponsor for the package i'm maintaining: music123, is s.b. interested ? |
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| 18:04.00 | tomplast | Nemoder: i really wanna have a compare function (graphically) because I'm trying to get my mp3player working in linux and im trying to find out how it saves data :P |
| 18:04.14 | kspath | mrobache: There is a mailing list for that also. |
| 18:04.18 | tomplast | brb |
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| 18:04.53 | Krassy1809 | I have corupted debian , but still have internet , How i can reinstall it without loosing home directory ? |
| 18:05.04 | Shadowcat | is /home on another partition? |
| 18:05.05 | mrobache | kspath: thanks, I know this mailing list but i'm trying with a larger way |
| 18:05.22 | azeem | mrobache: the set of people willing to sponsor in here is probably smaller |
| 18:05.26 | Krassy1809 | Yes |
| 18:05.32 | kspath | mrobache: I recommend that because some people that might sponsor are asleep is one reason I brought it up. |
| 18:05.34 | azeem | whoa, bolsh was here |
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| 18:05.37 | Shadowcat | Krassy1809: then just leave that parition alone |
| 18:06.13 | mrobache | kspath: ok :-D |
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| 18:06.22 | Arithmos | hi |
| 18:06.53 | mrobache | azeem: I think so but i'm trying ... |
| 18:07.03 | mc_tag | azeem: okay : i try to install a level1 softraid with 2.4 stable .... it fails whatever i try to do.... during raid paritioning |
| 18:07.27 | azeem | mc_tag: rather address the whole chan than individuals |
| 18:07.33 | azeem | I know nothing about raid |
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| 18:07.54 | mc_tag | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.55 | azeem | mrobache: good luck :) |
| 18:07.57 | Krassy1809 | Shadowcat:Do you meen delete another partitions , or only files in another partitions |
| 18:08.20 | azeem | mc_tag: telling them how it fails (like, any error message?) might help as well |
| 18:08.24 | mrobache | azeem: thanks :) |
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| 18:09.11 | faber2 | bye |
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| 18:09.13 | RvGaTe | Nemoder: Shad0wcat: while purging, it gave this strange output, never had this before: http://pastebin.com/669743 |
| 18:09.18 | Shadowcat | Krassy1809: do whatever you want, just leave the one /home is on ALONE |
| 18:09.46 | Shadowcat | RvGaTe: that's umm bad |
| 18:09.53 | oskie | what's the standard/recommended DPI in Xorg 7? |
| 18:09.58 | RvGaTe | Shad0wcat: explain me why... |
| 18:09.59 | jengelh | 96 dpi |
| 18:10.11 | Shadowcat | RvGaTe: it's an error |
| 18:10.13 | Shadowcat | as for what it means |
| 18:10.15 | Shadowcat | don't ask me |
| 18:10.23 | RvGaTe | k, np :P |
| 18:10.38 | oskie | jengelh: is that what you get when you do 'xdpyinfo |grep inch'? |
| 18:10.40 | mc_tag | ther is no specific msg - i part part1 - part 2 then i try do format the part with the raid men as ext3 or reiserfs - format starts but dont finsih then an not sec error comes _ cant finsish |
| 18:10.44 | Arithmos | I have a strange problem with glxgears and nvidia-8756 driver under debian etch and xorg 6.9.0 version number 11.0 . My video card is a fx5900 xt |
| 18:10.46 | RvGaTe | anyone else knows what this means? http://pastebin.com/669743 |
| 18:10.57 | jengelh | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.08 | jengelh | But the REAL DEFAULT depends on monitor size or whatever. |
| 18:11.12 | zinx | oskie: whatever your monitor's DPI is.. |
| 18:11.14 | jengelh | I manually set it to 96 so fonts have their usual size. |
| 18:11.26 | oskie | jengelh: hm nice, what option do you use to do that? |
| 18:11.26 | zinx | oskie: but i'm pretty sure debian forces it to 96dpi by default |
| 18:11.29 | jengelh | that is, becoming smaller with higher resolutions |
| 18:11.49 | jengelh | oskie: -dpi 96 to the start command line of the Xserver |
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| 18:12.02 | zinx | my monitor is really 96 dpi, otherwise i'd hax that stuff up |
| 18:12.02 | Arithmos | when i start glxgears i have 6900 fps but if i move the window with 3d in the left bottom corner i speed to 16000 fps ? Before this prob i was always minimum 12000 fps |
| 18:12.04 | oskie | RvGaTe: you can add it manually with adduser, and see if running the command again works... or just dpkg --force-all --purge mysql-server (beware, might cause damage) |
| 18:12.23 | jengelh | !glxgears |
| 18:12.24 | Krassy1809 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.41 | jengelh | <SuSEhelp:#suse> Rumour has it glxgears is like bogomips |
| 18:12.41 | oskie | what's the command to query the monitor? and doesn't dpi depend on your resolution in relation to monitor size (CRT)? |
| 18:12.46 | Arithmos | jengelh: yes the soft to test the fps video card |
| 18:12.54 | zinx | oskie: it does |
| 18:12.55 | jengelh | glxgears shows at best bogofps |
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| 18:12.59 | Shadowcat | Krassy1809: do you know what a pxe boot is? |
| 18:13.09 | zinx | oskie: you can put "DisplaySize horizontal-in-mm vertical-in-mm" |
| 18:13.12 | jengelh | glxgears is NOT a benchmark. |
| 18:13.28 | Arithmos | jengelh: bogofps ?? what is it bug in program ? |
| 18:13.30 | zinx | oskie: and X will calculate it.. or it can get that from the EDID info.. but you'll have to remove the -dpi 96 |
| 18:13.38 | oskie | there's a command (package) to query EDID of monitor... I know my monitor has broken EDID... |
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| 18:13.47 | stew | like bogomips its fine for comparing one identical card to another, but not good otherwise |
| 18:13.49 | zinx | oskie: X will query it |
| 18:13.50 | jengelh | Nothing. The values glxgears returns is simply inaccurate. Ask ATI or NVidia forums, or anyone else. |
| 18:13.53 | zinx | oskie: use -logverbose 10 and it will be logged |
| 18:13.56 | oskie | zinx: ok, i would prefer to put such config in xorg.conf |
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| 18:14.12 | zinx | oskie: X queries it if you don't disable DDC/EDID |
| 18:14.16 | Arithmos | jengelh: thx |
| 18:14.40 | mosgreg | hi |
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| 18:15.11 | Trewas | Arithmos: and glxgears is far too simple to be usable as becnchmark for modern displaycards |
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| 18:15.14 | Shadowcat | Krassy1809: read the installation manual on how to boot off an hd |
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| 18:15.21 | oskie | zinx: i have to disable EDID because EDID info is incorrect for this monitor (Nokia 446Xpro 19") |
| 18:15.31 | mosgreg | btw, thx you guys for helping me getting xorg7 running! |
| 18:16.22 | zinx | oskie: well you can temporarily enable it to get it to log the information, can't you? |
| 18:16.28 | sandman | I want to learn how to debug my first program with anjuta |
| 18:16.31 | oskie | zinx: yeah.. |
| 18:16.37 | Arithmos | Trewas: ok, but before i never have this low fps and go the the left bottom corner to have more fps is really strange |
| 18:16.44 | Arithmos | Trewas: :) |
| 18:16.56 | zinx | oskie: There is no other application that will get you the EDID information after you've run X, because X queries using DDC2, and DDC2 disables DDC1 -- the only other applications that query that use DDC1. |
| 18:16.58 | sandman | Anyone want to hold my hand? :) |
| 18:17.23 | kspath | sandman: Did your hand touch java? |
| 18:17.27 | sandman | I'm figure I'd find a bug in a program. First thing I'd do is see if it simply had to do with teh binary, so a swift apt-get -b source firefox |
| 18:17.31 | sandman | kspath: No |
| 18:17.49 | sandman | If the problem is still exhibited, I'd figure I'd open the source tree with anjuta, then compile with debugging symbols |
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| 18:17.54 | Eulex | !hold sandman |
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| 18:18.01 | sandman | And reproduce the problem. |
| 18:18.10 | stew | !debwiki sandman BSP |
| 18:18.10 | dpkg | sandman: http://wiki.debian.org/BSP |
| 18:18.18 | jengelh | !drop sandman |
| 18:18.23 | jengelh | :< |
| 18:18.24 | Trewas | Arithmos: sunspots and whatever will affect the fps of glxgears, it has something like 50 non-textured polygons with no lights to draw when modern cards can do scenes with millions of textured polygons and lights with usable speed |
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| 18:18.27 | oskie | zinx: hm.. ok.. but what replaces read-edid in unstable? |
| 18:18.39 | stew | sandman: help fix bugs! there are other things on that page that you can help with, like translations, manpages... also see qa.debian.org |
| 18:18.52 | kspath | !release gas |
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| 18:19.05 | Qiang | anyone knows why my lynx installation doesn't have /usr/bin/lynx, instead it has /usr/bin/lynx.stable ? this is debian stable |
| 18:19.05 | Manny_ | hi |
| 18:19.14 | Eulex | !handholding |
| 18:19.14 | dpkg | handholding is probably something that the people here are *not* going to do for you. |
| 18:19.48 | stew | sandman: #debian-bugs on irc.oftc.net will be filled with people to help you solve bugs |
| 18:20.16 | m4lu6 | damnit. |
| 18:20.18 | Manny_ | I want to build multiple metapackages, a few specific ones and a meta-metapackage. I want to use meta-package-foo, meta-package-bar, meta-package-foobar. Now, should I name the meta metapackage meta-package-all or meta-package? |
| 18:20.21 | m4lu6 | i've lost my mouse again. |
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| 18:20.26 | Arithmos | trewas: i see :) thx; No one want to write a video 3/2d benchmark for linux ;) |
| 18:20.27 | zinx | oskie: just use X to get it :/ |
| 18:20.33 | m4lu6 | used xlock to lock my screen, came back, mouse is gone. |
| 18:20.37 | dondelelcaro | stew: no, that's for other purposes, really... |
| 18:21.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: if you are ever bored |
| 18:21.03 | dondelelcaro | or, if you're fixing bugs and filing patches, you can of course ask questions there |
| 18:21.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: click on the arrows: http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ |
| 18:21.12 | stew | dondelelcaro: i believe that is his goal |
| 18:21.20 | azeem | Manny_: I don't think there is a policy/usual way of doing it |
| 18:21.22 | Arithmos | trewas: is it possible that affect games or not ? |
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| 18:21.51 | Trewas | Arithmos: I have no idea |
| 18:21.58 | dondelelcaro | Qiang: lynx.stable is the actual binary, lynx is a alternative that is sinstalled by the lynx package to point at lynx. iirc, lynx-ssl and a few other things also provide lynx |
| 18:22.11 | oskie | zinx: ok! but where do I put the logverbose line? (i'm using startx) |
| 18:22.34 | zinx | oskie: startx -- -logverbose 10 |
| 18:22.36 | Arithmos | Trewas: Thx for all, see you later |
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| 18:22.40 | zinx | oskie: exactly like that |
| 18:22.41 | oskie | zinx: i'll give it a try |
| 18:23.03 | zinx | oskie: then cp /var/log/{Xorg.0.log,XFree86.0.log} ~/ |
| 18:23.11 | zinx | oskie: and then you can start X without EDID/DDC enabled |
| 18:24.18 | pjz | is there a way to sanity-check my dpkg database? |
| 18:24.31 | m4lu6 | grrrr. i want my mouse back! |
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| 18:25.30 | disposable | m4lu6, has this happened before? is it a usb mouse? |
| 18:25.56 | Eulex | m4lu6, xlock took control of the mouse and doesn't want to give away control of it? try killing xlock. |
| 18:26.03 | m4lu6 | disposable yeah. randomly, and it is a usb mouse. |
| 18:26.10 | tarzeau | !seen ribnitz |
| 18:26.10 | dpkg | ribnitz <n=robert@246.13.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 17h 47m 44s ago, saying: 'Suppose I have more than one keyboard locale, how do I switch between them?'. |
| 18:26.33 | oskie | zinx: ok, the mode list is incorrect, but I'm using Option "ModeValidation" "NoEdidModes" to disable that... (nvidia). it also says there's no size info in EDID, so it's using built-in default 75x75 dpi |
| 18:26.33 | disposable | m4lu6, does killing xlock help as Eulex suggested? |
| 18:26.35 | zinx | oskie: darn |
| 18:26.36 | m4lu6 | Eulex didn't work. just killed x instead. |
| 18:26.41 | zinx | oskie: you'll have to measure it, or get the specs online |
| 18:27.03 | disposable | m4lu6, i had similar problem, i switched to gpm then and never had problem again |
| 18:27.13 | m4lu6 | hmm. i might do that. |
| 18:27.20 | oskie | zinx: but wouldn't it be better to just use 96x96 dpi, rather than something weird like 93.513x93.513 (calculated) |
| 18:27.30 | zinx | oskie: may as well |
| 18:27.32 | m4lu6 | or maybe I'll just go to a security-through-obscurity model, and drop to a console when I take a break :) |
| 18:27.38 | zinx | oskie: i'm weird :D |
| 18:27.44 | m4lu6 | 99.9999% certainty that nobody in my office will know to press alt+F7 |
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| 18:28.28 | disposable | m4lu6, 80% chance someone will switch it off thinking it's frozen |
| 18:28.52 | oskie | zinx: but perhaps it's better to specify some standard 19" dimension size in the monitor section...? |
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| 18:29.02 | LinuxHelp | 0.3% chance X will somehow crash, and you wont be able to get your session back |
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| 18:29.12 | zinx | oskie: nah, not really |
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| 18:29.34 | m4lu6 | disposable nah. |
| 18:29.38 | jengelh | Warning : 98.36% of all statistics are fiction, book release in April. |
| 18:30.23 | oskie | zinx: then I'll use nvidia option "DPI "96 x 96" in Screen section... let's see if it works |
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| 18:30.34 | nicegoing | anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box |
| 18:30.40 | kspath | m4lu6: xlockmore vlock and there is another I used as well... |
| 18:30.49 | tralala | I've just burned the two sarge dvds 3.1r1 yesterday and they released r2 today... ouch |
| 18:31.06 | oskie | zinx: ah back to normal :) |
| 18:31.11 | kspath | tralala: you got r1 just in time! |
| 18:31.18 | thingfish | hehe |
| 18:31.28 | tralala | the last one in stock... |
| 18:31.33 | nicegoing | anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box |
| 18:32.07 | tralala | nicegoing: netstat -t -l |
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| 18:32.41 | nvz | screw smiles.. |
| 18:32.42 | nicegoing | this works fine, but I need more info, like the path to the programm |
| 18:33.12 | disposable | nicegoing, 'ps aux' |
| 18:33.16 | tralala | !tell open -about ports |
| 18:33.22 | kspath | nvz: smile sex is not legal in all regions/nations/states. |
| 18:33.34 | nicegoing | I have suspeciuns |
| 18:33.52 | nvz | o.O |
| 18:34.24 | swim | hmm for some reason Im not finding nvidia-kernel-legacy-* in my current recourses... what would I need for that? |
| 18:34.25 | tralala | nicegoing: if you suspect you've been p3nwd you should try to run nmap from another computer |
| 18:34.30 | kspath | nvz: Did you right eye shrink or is your left eye swollen. That keeps happening to people. |
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| 18:35.01 | C`Alexa | CControlCommands.h:37: error: 'gnuworld::xServer' has not been declared |
| 18:35.01 | C`Alexa | CommandsDec.h:31: error: 'xServer' is already declared in this scope |
| 18:35.01 | C`Alexa | make[1]: *** [libccontrol_la-ccUser.lo] Error 1 |
| 18:35.01 | C`Alexa | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/gnuworld/gnuworld/mod.ccontrol' |
| 18:35.01 | C`Alexa | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
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| 18:35.21 | tralala | !tell paste -about |
| 18:35.22 | nvz | kspath: my budget shrank and my bills swelled |
| 18:35.22 | nicegoing | ok |
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| 18:35.32 | tralala | !tell C`Alexa -about paste |
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| 18:35.34 | oskie | compile/build instructions should say: Don't try this at home, kids |
| 18:35.39 | tralala | !topicsmite C`Alexa |
| 18:35.40 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon C`Alexa. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 18:35.40 | C`Alexa | k |
| 18:35.41 | kspath | nicegoing: If your box is properly owned than likely they replaced/compromised so/all the utilities they could find on your machine. |
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| 18:35.56 | freezey | in need of some serious help |
| 18:36.19 | kspath | C`Alexa: !pastesmite C`Alexa |
| 18:36.22 | C`Alexa | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2386 |
| 18:36.23 | kados | I've got a debian sarge system I just installed running kernel 2.6.8-2-386 ... the server has 2 gigs of RAM but only 885M are showing up |
| 18:36.26 | oskie | C`Alexa: there's some conflicting declarations... someone made a mistake it seems |
| 18:36.32 | C`Alexa | how i can resolve this error http://channels.debian.net/paste/2386. |
| 18:36.43 | loxley_ | kados: install 686 |
| 18:37.30 | freezey | i am gettin an error when i am trying to boot |
| 18:37.48 | nvz | its springtime, I gotta find a steady job paying $10/hr or more so I can have some cash to watch the pirates loose miserably at baseball and all that fun stuff |
| 18:37.48 | kspath | freezey: keep the error a secret. |
| 18:37.58 | kados | loxley_: what package? |
| 18:38.24 | freezey | /usr/sbin/base-config: /var/log/installer.timings: READ ONLY FILE SYSTEm it says that about 10 times and then says INIT: ID "1" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 18:38.28 | loxley_ | kados: kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 for example |
| 18:38.43 | kados | thx |
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| 18:38.51 | Aapinne | hello, What is the dpkg equivalent of rpm -ql <package-name>" |
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| 18:39.01 | kspath | kados: Thanks? |
| 18:39.10 | C`Alexa | how i can resolve this error http://channels.debian.net/paste/2386. |
| 18:39.24 | freezey | and then it happens over and over again |
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| 18:39.40 | abrotman | tarzeau: need a formula for Bug Rate |
| 18:39.46 | kados | loxley_: thanks |
| 18:39.50 | kados | kspath: yes |
| 18:39.53 | tarzeau | abrotman: k, will provide it, the old kitame page hat one |
| 18:39.59 | Nemoder | Aapinne: dpkg -L packagename |
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| 18:40.24 | Aapinne | thx mate |
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| 18:40.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: might be cool to be able to reverse the sort |
| 18:40.48 | tarzeau | abrotman: ahh good idea, i can do that easily |
| 18:40.53 | kspath | Aapinne: Thanks? To who? |
| 18:40.56 | tarzeau | abrotman: by checking the last used url, and reversing if it was so |
| 18:41.04 | abrotman | good plan :) |
| 18:41.16 | Aapinne | to Nemoder, why? |
| 18:41.19 | freezey | this dam thing is holdin me back |
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| 18:41.43 | C`Alexa | how i can resolve this error http://channels.debian.net/paste/2386. |
| 18:41.46 | C`Alexa | plzzz |
| 18:41.48 | C`Alexa | :(( |
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| 18:41.53 | C`Alexa | i try 10hours |
| 18:41.56 | C`Alexa | :(( |
| 18:42.03 | kspath | Aapinne: You can say Nemoder: thanks so that person knows it is for them and everyone else does and Nemoder irc client will likely highlight for them. |
| 18:42.10 | azeem | C`Alexa: ask in a programming channel |
| 18:42.22 | Nemoder | kspath: quit making my window blink ;) |
| 18:42.30 | C`Alexa | where |
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| 18:42.45 | azeem | #c++? |
| 18:42.50 | Aapinne | kspath: thanks |
| 18:43.14 | kspath | Nemoder: You have flash on beep set and your nick highlighting also beeps you? |
| 18:43.53 | Nemoder | kspath: apparently, although only if I'm in another window |
| 18:43.54 | freezey | /usr/sbin/base-config: /var/log/installer.timings: READ ONLY FILE SYSTEm it says that about 10 times and then says INIT: ID "1" respawning to fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 18:43.57 | freezey | can any1 help? |
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| 18:44.25 | tralala | !any1 |
| 18:44.25 | dpkg | *** any1: No such nick/channel |
| 18:44.41 | kspath | !tell freezey about anyone |
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| 18:45.12 | Krassy1809 | If i have a patched debian way compiled custom kernel , What files i must copy to another machine to install this kernel on it (meen - is only .deb file needed ?) ? |
| 18:45.20 | _rene_ | hrmpf. |
| 18:45.27 | nvz | I hate socks.. I swear I am about to start buying new ones every week and throwing them out after each use.. no matter how many socks you have there are always more balled up dirty ones than clean ones |
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| 18:45.35 | _rene_ | dan jacobson filing bugs against a version not even in *testing* anymore since months |
| 18:45.35 | tralala | freezey: /var is mounted read-only, fix that |
| 18:45.44 | Aapinne | any1? |
| 18:45.48 | _rene_ | mmh, ECHAN :) |
| 18:45.53 | abrotman | _rene_: kick him in the head! |
| 18:45.59 | C`Alexa | How i can upgrade all system? |
| 18:46.05 | azeem | Aapinne: any1 == anyone |
| 18:46.06 | freezey | tralala: how i can;t even get to shell |
| 18:46.13 | Nemoder | Krassy1809: yes you only need the .deb assuming the other system is already in working order |
| 18:46.15 | azeem | C`Alexa: aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 18:46.23 | Aapinne | azeem:yes i know |
| 18:46.29 | freezey | tralala: there is nowhere i can type anything newhere |
| 18:46.51 | tralala | freezey: find out the reason why it can't be mounted properly |
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| 18:47.15 | freezey | tralala: ok so how do i find that out? |
| 18:47.28 | C`Alexa | how i can install this manpages-dev_2.25-2_all.deb? |
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| 18:47.32 | kspath | It will not log an error to /var if /var is mounted RO. |
| 18:47.40 | C`Alexa | dpkg -L ? |
| 18:47.42 | rototo | hello all I like to downgrade my testing box into stable is it easy to do or really dangerous ? |
| 18:47.46 | freezey | tralala: see the thing is that i am installing it on a dell poweredge 2500 |
| 18:47.48 | tralala | you read the boot log carefully. If you can't tell the reason you paste the boot log (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 18:47.48 | kspath | or if it is not mounted at all |
| 18:47.49 | azeem | C`Alexa: it's broken |
| 18:47.57 | azeem | C`Alexa: wait till it gets fixed |
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| 18:48.14 | freezey | tralala: i had to use a 2.4 kernel because regular kernel for the new debian doesn;t support scsi |
| 18:48.16 | abrotman | rototo: not possible |
| 18:49.50 | tralala | freezey: I don't know what you've just said but the kernel version is not as important as the boot log |
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| 18:50.29 | C`Alexa | I type: aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 18:50.41 | C`Alexa | wait |
| 18:50.42 | C`Alexa | i go paste |
| 18:50.43 | rototo | abrotman, no way at all ? |
| 18:50.48 | abrotman | !downgrade |
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| 18:50.48 | dpkg | [downgrade] not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. |
| 18:50.59 | freezey | tralala: messaged u |
| 18:51.05 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:51.05 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:51.09 | C`Alexa | I type: aptitude dist-upgrade give : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 18:51.20 | C`Alexa | how i can fix this |
| 18:51.20 | tralala | !msg |
| 18:51.20 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
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| 18:51.25 | azeem | C`Alexa: wrong link |
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| 18:51.39 | C`Alexa | ups |
| 18:51.39 | tralala | + I don't receive messages from unregistered users |
| 18:51.39 | C`Alexa | ;)) |
| 18:51.50 | Ronin | tralala: thats on purpose |
| 18:51.53 | C`Alexa | I type: aptitude dist-upgrade give : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2387. |
| 18:51.55 | freezey | tralala: dam |
| 18:52.03 | freezey | tralala: give me 2 seconds then |
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| 18:52.07 | azeem | C`Alexa: as I said manpages-dev is broken |
| 18:52.13 | azeem | C`Alexa: wait till it gets fixed |
| 18:52.15 | C`Alexa | how i can rezolve? |
| 18:52.16 | kspath | freezey: dam holds back water |
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| 18:52.29 | azeem | put the current version on hold, maybe |
| 18:52.30 | Supaplex | resolving is easy, just use DNS |
| 18:52.30 | azeem | !hold |
| 18:52.32 | dpkg | hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
| 18:52.36 | thingfish | man, the pedantry in here sometimes... |
| 18:52.41 | C`Alexa | ? |
| 18:52.43 | tralala | Ronin: yep, the porn spam bots don't bother me that way |
| 18:52.56 | C`Alexa | who? |
| 18:53.04 | azeem | C`Alexa: do you run unstable? |
| 18:53.11 | Ronin | tralala: ya sorry i misunderstood |
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| 18:53.28 | kspath | thingfish: hehehe |
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| 18:53.47 | C`Alexa | i don't know |
| 18:54.23 | Niklas_E | if you downloaded the debian iso's and wanna burn them to a dvd, is there any program that can do that? cdrecord doesn't wanna burn the dvd |
| 18:54.37 | azeem | C`Alexa: if you have issues with manpages-dev you likely do |
| 18:54.43 | azeem | C`Alexa: did you install Debian yourself? |
| 18:54.51 | C`Alexa | yes |
| 18:54.52 | C`Alexa | i type |
| 18:54.57 | C`Alexa | apt-get update |
| 18:55.00 | C`Alexa | apt-get upgrade |
| 18:55.15 | azeem | C`Alexa: did you change /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 18:55.22 | C`Alexa | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib |
| 18:55.25 | C`Alexa | deb http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 18:55.37 | azeem | "sid" |
| 18:55.40 | azeem | sid is unstable |
| 18:55.49 | jnik | Niklas_E: use growisofs |
| 18:55.54 | C`Alexa | ok |
| 18:55.57 | C`Alexa | i add this |
| 18:55.59 | azeem | C`Alexa: somebody (you?) changed that |
| 18:56.01 | C`Alexa | deb http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 18:56.02 | kspath | !tell Niklas_E about growisofs |
| 18:56.03 | jnik | Niklas_E: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso |
| 18:56.10 | azeem | C`Alexa: so you upgraded to unstable |
| 18:56.12 | C`Alexa | i add this deb http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 18:56.27 | azeem | C`Alexa: if you do that, you are expected to fix these problems yourself |
| 18:56.41 | freezey | tralala: i am registered now |
| 18:56.49 | C`Alexa | :( |
| 18:56.53 | C`Alexa | sorry i don't understand |
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| 18:56.58 | C`Alexa | how i can remove this? |
| 18:57.02 | tralala | freezey: but why do you want to pm me? |
| 18:57.02 | azeem | C`Alexa: you cannot |
| 18:57.06 | C`Alexa | or fix this problem? |
| 18:57.11 | azeem | C`Alexa: put manpages-dev on hold, maybe |
| 18:57.13 | azeem | !hold |
| 18:57.13 | dpkg | hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
| 18:57.16 | moshii | Does anyone know how to get the netbsd build.sh script working with Debian? It's meant to be possible |
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| 18:57.22 | C`Alexa | how i can hold this? |
| 18:57.23 | azeem | C`Alexa: read a book about Debian as well |
| 18:57.28 | azeem | C`Alexa: dpkg just told you |
| 18:57.39 | freezey | tralala: so i can talk to u in there about this... dude i am no sicko i just wanna get this linux box running and its easier then keep on lookin here all the dam time |
| 18:57.46 | rototo | abrotman, what do you think about something like http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 to downgrade I'm really up to scripts if needed |
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| 18:58.10 | C`Alexa | how? |
| 18:58.21 | Niklas_E | tnx |
| 18:58.22 | azeem | C`Alexa: how what? |
| 18:58.30 | C`Alexa | :(( |
| 18:58.34 | C`Alexa | resolve |
| 18:58.37 | C`Alexa | problem |
| 18:58.49 | azeem | C`Alexa: wait till manpages-dev is fixed |
| 18:58.53 | azeem | I told you three times now |
| 18:59.01 | azeem | or put manpages-dev on hold |
| 18:59.05 | azeem | maybe that helps |
| 18:59.24 | tralala | freezey: by using the channel you get the benefit of asking everybody at once. So if I don't know the answer someone else might do. And the everybody benefits from the answer as well. Otherwise you should just call the DELL support. |
| 18:59.30 | C`Alexa | give me acommnds |
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| 18:59.37 | azeem | C`Alexa: read what dpkg said |
| 18:59.44 | C`Alexa | k |
| 18:59.45 | freezey | tralala: dell had no idea what the hell i was talkin about haha |
| 18:59.52 | freezey | tralala: ok well what is it that u said to check |
| 19:00.06 | kspath | !tell freezey about u |
| 19:00.09 | azeem | 20:51 < dpkg> hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package[...] |
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| 19:00.54 | tralala | freezey: do you have a second computer and a serial cable around? |
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| 19:01.16 | freezey | i have about 8 computers around |
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| 19:01.18 | freezey | and a serial cable |
| 19:01.30 | freezey | tralala: about 8 computers around and a serial cable |
| 19:01.50 | abrotman | rototo: that's up to you .. it's not my machine |
| 19:02.10 | kazm | Hey there. Really strange problem here. Whenever I run apt-get or aptitude + install / upgrade / dist-upgrade the program segfaults. I'm running unstable. |
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| 19:02.37 | tralala | Great! Then pass to the kernel the following paramter: console=/dev/ttyS0,38400, connect the com1 to another computer and copy/paste the bootlog messages. Ask dpkg how to paste. |
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| 19:03.31 | freezey | tralala: o can't do nething like there is no way to run nething in the console i don;t even have a console |
| 19:03.39 | freezey | tralala: this all happens when i try to boot |
| 19:04.01 | freezey | tralala: i can;t even boot the dam thing it goes to this part and stops |
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| 19:04.52 | jnik | kazm: maybe try speluking around in /var/cache/apt/archives for an older version of apt and downgrade to it with dpkg? |
| 19:05.04 | tralala | freezey: there are two ways to paste the bootlog - easy and hard. The easy way is to figure out how to apply the instructions I gave you and paste the log. The hard way is to type it yourself. Make your choice. |
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| 19:05.14 | kspath | freezey: Do you mean to say damn? Dam is for holding back something most often river water that than forms a lake. |
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| 19:05.24 | sandman | Does ccache work with g++ also? |
| 19:05.57 | sandman | If so, shouldn't I ln -s /usr/bin/ccache /usr/local/bin/[cc,gcc,g++]? |
| 19:06.09 | sandman | Or just as the README.Debian says, which is to jsut do gcc and cc. |
| 19:06.21 | kazm | jnik: No go. My best shot would be synaptic_0.57.9 ... Trying that one now. |
| 19:06.41 | simonrvn | sandman: i don't know. i'd stick to the README |
| 19:06.43 | kspath | sandman: http://ccache.samba.org/ |
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| 19:07.08 | simonrvn | or that :). thanks kspath |
| 19:08.52 | freezey | tralala: ok i tried and there is nowhere to put in that parameter like its during the boot it just hangs right there and as soon as that comes up the whole respawning thing u can;t type |
| 19:09.18 | jnik | freezey: put that in at the boot prompt...where lilo or grub first kicks in |
| 19:09.26 | kspath | simonrvn: I only found the link. The real people to thank are samba.org and ccache authors/supporter. |
| 19:09.35 | simonrvn | of course |
| 19:09.52 | freezey | jnik: thats the thing is says lilo 2.2 .......... and quickly goes away i tried that |
| 19:10.15 | jnik | freezey: hold down on CTRL as it boots, before it hits the lilo prompt |
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| 19:10.22 | stew | no, shift |
| 19:10.23 | Mortis_kruuul | Check http://www.muzyka.oz.pl |
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| 19:10.26 | Mortis_kruuul | Check http://www.muzyka.oz.pl |
| 19:10.50 | stew | !ops Mortis_kruuul spammer |
| 19:10.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Mortis_kruuul spammer |
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| 19:11.05 | freezey | jnik: ok just waitin for the array controller to start |
| 19:11.11 | stew | freezey: you want shift, not ctrl |
| 19:11.36 | sandman | kspath: It indicates that c++ and c are supported |
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| 19:11.46 | sandman | Which means making three symlinks would be appropriate |
| 19:12.03 | freezey | stew: ok nice nice nice |
| 19:12.07 | freezey | stew: now what |
| 19:12.15 | kspath | sandman: You are assuming the version the site refers to matches that which is in the repository you got it from? |
| 19:12.17 | freezey | stew: enter that boot parameter? |
| 19:12.39 | jnik | "any of the [Shift], [Control] or [Alt] keys is pressed."--lilo docs |
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| 19:13.05 | stew | jnik: ahh, sorry, didn't know that |
| 19:13.11 | stew | freezey: i dunno, i wasn't paying attention |
| 19:13.19 | kspath | sandman: Will it hurt to try? Did you compare versions? |
| 19:13.31 | freezey | tralala: ok i am at a boot prompt |
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| 19:13.40 | freezey | tralala: what was that command? |
| 19:13.48 | jnik | freezey: something like "linux console=/dev/ttyS0,38400" where linux is the name of the kernel image--hit tab for a list |
| 19:13.52 | sandman | The versions match. |
| 19:14.02 | sandman | README.Debian @ ccache needs to be corrected. |
| 19:14.15 | RichiH | sandman: ta, he let the network |
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| 19:14.25 | sandman | RichiH: He left the network? |
| 19:14.32 | RichiH | yes |
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| 19:14.35 | sandman | Of Debian Developers? |
| 19:14.38 | RichiH | 21:09:36 < stew> !ops Mortis_kruuul spammer |
| 19:14.45 | RichiH | oh |
| 19:14.50 | simonrvn | heh |
| 19:14.52 | RichiH | sandman: sorry, tab completion gone wild.. |
| 19:15.18 | stew | RichiH: thanks |
| 19:15.22 | RichiH | np |
| 19:15.36 | sandman | RichiH: lol :) |
| 19:15.37 | morbius | when I try and run tightvncserver I get the following error even though I have verified my /etc/vnc.conf file and everything looks right - Please set correct fontPath in the tightvncserver script. |
| 19:15.41 | kspath | RichiH: That same URL was spammed yesterday as well by the way. |
| 19:15.56 | tralala | freezey: press tab to see the kernels you have |
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| 19:16.10 | spookyisback | hey all sorry for my newbieness, first time irc user |
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| 19:16.37 | kspath | spookyisback: If it is your first time how are you back? |
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| 19:16.57 | spookyisback | oh my back is just find ;-) |
| 19:17.02 | spookyisback | thanks |
| 19:17.03 | sandman | RichiH: But at any rate.. I was wondering: How is the Debian community doing as a whole? Gaining, losing members? |
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| 19:17.28 | freezey | when i press tab it just drops down to boot again |
| 19:17.32 | RichiH | sandman: no idea :) |
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| 19:17.43 | RichiH | sandman: if i get a week or two of free time, i will start with nm |
| 19:17.45 | RichiH | but.. |
| 19:17.45 | lostson | sandman: just gained me a few weeks ago |
| 19:17.51 | freezey | i typed that whole linux console line and it just boots and puts me right where i was again |
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| 19:18.00 | RichiH | kspath: yah, we remove them regardless ;) |
| 19:18.04 | kspath | sandman: It is more of a loose association. There is not really a roll call and accounting. |
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| 19:18.23 | jnik | freezey: did you hook up the serial cable and run a terminal program on the other computer to get the dump there? |
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| 19:18.46 | freezey | jnik: ok ok let me hook that cable up my bad i forgot about that |
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| 19:18.59 | lepton | sandman: who knows? I've been using it since 1998. |
| 19:19.02 | radicaljoe | I am trying to do a static network config in debian testing and it keeps comming up with it's own ip. |
| 19:19.03 | freezey | jnik: so after i hook that cable up actually i will hook it up right to this one i am on |
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| 19:19.10 | sandman | Well, I wanted to say that Debian is more than just a community. It's a symbol of True Freedom. |
| 19:19.11 | swim | hey folks Im trying to play UFO, but when I try I get: first I got that it couldnt find ref_gl.so, so I linked its own /usr/games/ufoai/ref_glx.so to /usr/games/ufoai/ref_gl.so ... that seemed to work. Now when I run it it says it cant find opengl32 ... I have my nvidia drivers working... |
| 19:19.31 | sandman | Speech and otherwise. And I believe the implications of it run deeper than just an Operating System and application pool. |
| 19:19.49 | tralala | freezey: ok, I haven't use lilo in quite a while now but let me take my wild guess on the line you have to type - linux root=/dev/<yourrootdev> ro console=/dev/ttyS0,38400. You have to have another computer connected via the serial cable and a terminal emulator programme connected to the com port with speed 38400 |
| 19:20.20 | radicaljoe | Is there a config file other then /etc/network/interfaces where the ip is set? |
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| 19:20.28 | sandman | But, at any rate.. It Works, and I want to contribute. |
| 19:21.00 | j-run | I'm desperately trying to mount my raid in recover mode (booting from sarge installer CD). But, there's no /dev/mdX to assemble the raid to, and mknod can't create it. Help! |
| 19:21.11 | kspath | swim: Stable or Testing or Unstable? package name? Xorg? XFree? drivers? video card? Those are some of the things that you will want to keep track of in a file and prepare to put in a pastebin or for filing a but report. |
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| 19:21.29 | chaos | ðððð |
| 19:21.36 | abrotman | hi? |
| 19:21.42 | chaos | sorry |
| 19:22.24 | freezey | tralala: i am just lookin for the cable now i found nothin but parrallel cables |
| 19:22.24 | kspath | swim: Of course those error messages are critical as well. |
| 19:22.25 | swim | kspath, Testing, Xorg, nvidia legacy drivers/ card. There is no package name, its a linux binary download off their site: ufo.ai_0.12beta1-multilanguage.run |
| 19:22.29 | lepton | j-run: is raid supported by your install CD? |
| 19:22.30 | freezey | tralala: let me just find this dam thing |
| 19:22.34 | freezey | tralala: damn |
| 19:22.54 | j-run | lepton: yes, I have the mdadm tools, and raid support in kernel |
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| 19:23.16 | kspath | swim: Not sure what you will get for help. It is not a debian repository package. |
| 19:23.18 | spookyisback | radicaljoe: after changing the ip in "interfaces" you have to restart your network /etc/init.d/network restart |
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| 19:23.27 | j-run | lepton: but the /dev directory does not contain the required md entry... |
| 19:23.33 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 19:23.42 | lepton | j-run: perhaps you need to load a module or three? |
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| 19:23.43 | swim | kspath, no, but opengl32 might exist within a package |
| 19:23.50 | tremor | good evening * |
| 19:23.57 | radicaljoe | spookyisback:I've done that and it keeps using some other ip. |
| 19:24.14 | kspath | swim: apt-cache search opengl32 or try apt-file search opengl32 |
| 19:24.21 | radicaljoe | spookyisback:are all the config files in /etc/networks? |
| 19:24.37 | kspath | swim: apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update; apt-file search opengl32 |
| 19:24.40 | swim | kspath, ok, I did try the first one already. |
| 19:24.44 | j-run | lepton: what modules are required do you think? |
| 19:24.47 | spookyisback | yes |
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| 19:25.32 | radicaljoe | spookyisback:Its pulling an ip out of some hat. |
| 19:25.35 | npx | Can someone running testing pastebin a copy of their /etc/inittab? |
| 19:25.45 | lepton | j-run: modinfo md; modprobe md |
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| 19:26.01 | stew | j-run: do you run udev? probebly md-mod and raid? where ? is 0,1,5,6,10 |
| 19:26.02 | spookyisback | for static ip your primary network interface should have this begining: auto eth0 \ iface eth0 inet static |
| 19:26.04 | radicaljoe | spookyisback:Its not even the same network address. |
| 19:26.07 | swim | brb |
| 19:26.26 | radicaljoe | spookyisback:Did that |
| 19:26.43 | matthijs | what was the name of the person here that never sleeps ? |
| 19:26.53 | sandman | main.cpp:7: error: 'cout' was not declared in this scope |
| 19:26.53 | stew | matthijs: dpkg |
| 19:26.54 | spookyisback | what does ifconfig tells you |
| 19:26.59 | j-run | no modinfo command, running raid 0 |
| 19:27.27 | radicaljoe | I set address 192.168.0.36 and ifconfig shows inet addr:169.254.3.53 |
| 19:27.37 | tralala | freezey: perhaps typing the bootlog yourself won't be that hard after all. You can stop the boot screen from scrolling by hitting ScrollLock. |
| 19:27.45 | MatBoy | stew: indeed, it does :p |
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| 19:27.59 | stew | radicaljoe: that is becuase you are running zeroconf ; "ip addr" will list all of the ip addresses on that card |
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| 19:28.01 | j-run | stew: udev is that strange looking /dev directory? instead of the normal /dev/hda1 I have /dev/ide/host0/../lots/lots/ |
| 19:28.11 | stew | j-run: no that is devfs |
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| 19:28.16 | beateuser | Hi |
| 19:28.17 | j-run | ah ok |
| 19:28.24 | stew | j-run: do you run either udev or devfs? |
| 19:28.27 | j-run | I should have an md entry there |
| 19:28.32 | MatBoy | DO I need special drivers for a matrox card instead of the mga_drv ? |
| 19:28.34 | j-run | or at least be able to create one with mknod |
| 19:28.52 | freezey | tralala: yeah i am gonna do that i can;t find the cable |
| 19:28.55 | radicaljoe | stew:I see it has 2 address |
| 19:29.19 | freezey | tralala: what do i type to get the boot log? |
| 19:29.19 | stew | radicaljoe: yes, there is a bug filed so that it should add the zeroconf address first so it doesn't show up as default in ifconfig but i don't think its been done yet |
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| 19:29.34 | stew | j-run: if you run udev you shouldn't be using mknod/MAKEDEV |
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| 19:29.41 | factor | does anyone know what is wrong with the kimagemapeditor? |
| 19:29.49 | factor | I cant get the latest one to work |
| 19:29.52 | factor | in unstable |
| 19:30.00 | radicaljoe | stew:A debian testing bug? |
| 19:30.01 | beateuser | I just tried to get alsa to work on sid. # modprobe snd-ac97-codec say "WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_bus (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-686/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-bus.ko): Invalid module format". Any hints? |
| 19:30.12 | stew | radicaljoe: yes |
| 19:30.15 | j-run | stew: im in the sarge installer, not much I can do |
| 19:30.18 | radicaljoe | What the hell is zeroconf |
| 19:30.24 | beateuser | Sound system has been working till some kernel upgrade (i guess) |
| 19:30.24 | tralala | freezey: you simply boot the machine |
| 19:30.26 | stew | j-run: which? sarge? or etch? |
| 19:30.31 | j-run | sarge |
| 19:30.39 | stew | j-run: then yes, it is devfs |
| 19:31.07 | freezey | tralala: sorry this thing is giving me a headache |
| 19:31.12 | j-run | i don't get why I can't just mknod /dev/md0 9 0 |
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| 19:31.40 | freezey | tralala: scroll lock didn;t work shit just kept going |
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| 19:31.44 | factor | this is the error I get, with kimagemapeditor - Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1". |
| 19:31.47 | freezey | tralala: which part do u need? |
| 19:31.47 | sandman | How to compile a package through apt-get -b source <package> with different CFLAGS? |
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| 19:32.05 | simonrvn | !nmg |
| 19:32.05 | dpkg | rumour has it, nmg is Debian New Maintainers' Guide, Debian Policy Manual and Debian Developer's Reference are the documents you need to read, in that order, to make packages for the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 19:32.21 | simonrvn | sandman: more specifically, edit debian/rules |
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| 19:32.43 | tybalt | How do I make debian use /etc/bash.bashrc instead of the .bashrc files in the users home directories so that bash settings are the same on all user accounts? |
| 19:32.57 | radicaljoe | stew:How do disable this zeroconf monster? |
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| 19:33.35 | spookyisback | how to make pause's in stdin redirection from file? |
| 19:33.53 | tralala | freezey: all of it. You should be able to scroll up with shift+pgup |
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| 19:34.18 | nse | tybalt: you can simple remove ~./bashrc files, or you can make them non-readable |
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| 19:34.22 | freezey | tralala: ok |
| 19:34.28 | freezey | tralala: where you want me to send this to? |
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| 19:34.49 | jnik | tybalt: replace bash with a script that calls real_bash --norc would be the only way to be sure...see "INVOCATION" on the bash man page |
| 19:35.03 | stew | radicaljoe: dunno, i haven't used it. check out /usr/share/doc/zeroconf/README.Debian ; you could always remove it, however i don't know what you installed that depends on it, so removing it might not be an option for you |
| 19:35.13 | nse | tybalt: don't forget to do the same with the other initialization bash script such as ~/.bash_profile |
| 19:35.27 | radicaljoe | stew:Thanks. I will figure it out. |
| 19:35.33 | tralala | !paste |
| 19:35.33 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 19:35.39 | freezey | !paste |
| 19:35.52 | sandman | What's the easiest way to add -march=athlon-xp to debian/rules? It looks like it uses an EV named "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS", however there are lines within that rules file that rather outwardly point out what flags will be used (the three CFLAGS lines)) |
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| 19:35.57 | sandman | Which would be the "best" one to use? |
| 19:36.04 | tybalt | how do I do keep new user accounts from putting the stuff from /etc/skel into their home directories by default so that once I delete the .bashrc files from the home directories new users don't need to do the same thing to get the "global" bash settings? |
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| 19:36.33 | freezey | tralala: this is gonna take a little bit to all type out |
| 19:36.34 | sandman | More specifically, I'm wondering what ifneq (,$(findstring noopt,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS))) |
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| 19:37.03 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 19:37.04 | dpkg | mentors is, like, Please /msg dpkg mg and/or try http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ and/or try #debian-mentors |
| 19:37.11 | j-run | stew: Hah! YAY! I created the /dev/md/0 node by starting the ncurses software raid installer, and then aborting it :) Rescue is on the way! |
| 19:37.13 | stew | sandman: you might wanna look at apt-build |
| 19:38.01 | jnik | tybalt: just delete stuff you don't want from /etc/skel? or use --no-create-home to adduser? |
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| 19:39.44 | tralala | freezey: take your time |
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| 19:40.27 | tybalt | aaw crap, I think I just accidentely deleted ALL .bash* on my system. |
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| 19:40.42 | tremor | someone familiar with wlan (acx111)? i'm not sure, if i named the firmware file correctly. i also have some problems with connecting to my ap, also when ist configured without any encryption. |
| 19:40.53 | freezey | tralala: why does it just keep going even when i have scroll lock on |
| 19:40.55 | tremor | s/ist/its |
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| 19:41.07 | freezey | tralala: and when it gets to the end it won;t show me the entire thing |
| 19:41.54 | freezey | tralala: i know which kernel it is |
| 19:41.59 | kspath | tybalt: using find and rm together? |
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| 19:42.32 | robin_sz | sigh ... so .. to play dvds I need libdvdcss right? |
| 19:42.38 | tybalt | no, rm -r .bash* from / instead of /home |
| 19:42.58 | unity | hello, i am trying to mount my cdrom which is primary master. i did mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/hda /media/cdrom and i got mount: /dev/hda is not a valid block device |
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| 19:43.43 | tremor | unity: which type of cd do you want to mount? data-cd? |
| 19:43.44 | nse | tybalt: yes, feel the power of the linux command line |
| 19:43.49 | unity | tremor: yes |
| 19:43.55 | freezey | tralala: i found my serial cable i know where it is |
| 19:44.02 | freezey | tralala: gona grab it hold up |
| 19:44.19 | tuv | d-i beta2 does not install X properly? why is that? |
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| 19:44.35 | rejden | hello, i have problems installing debian 3.1r1 from DVD on a sata drives, i'm running 2.6 kernel install mode and i loaded all sata_* modules, still on detect hardware i get it needs ide-scsi, ide-mod, ide-probe-mod, ide-detect and in partitioning i don't see any drives |
| 19:45.01 | tremor | uhm .. what happens, when you specify 'auto' as type? |
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| 19:45.23 | tuv | it installs gnome but does not install x-window-system(-core), so gdm cannot start |
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| 19:45.27 | rae2 | howdy |
| 19:45.34 | tybalt | nse: this was a bad thing that I did on my system. now I have to make .bash* files again |
| 19:45.36 | unity | tremor: mount -t auto ... gives me mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 19:46.31 | ptlis | brb |
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| 19:47.20 | tuv | d-i beta2 X installation is broken. it installs gnome but does not install x-window-system(-core), so gdm cannot start |
| 19:47.34 | tybalt | whats the .bashrc line to make it so you have a "fancy prompt (color)"? |
| 19:47.51 | tuv | tybalt, alias ls="ls --color" |
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| 19:48.00 | unity | tremor: i think i will change to a different drive. can i change a cd-rw drive to a dvd-rom drive and expect debian to react accordingly? |
| 19:48.23 | tremor | unity: i think so |
| 19:48.29 | tybalt | I meant the "machinename:/working/dir$" |
| 19:48.37 | tybalt | change that so it uses color |
| 19:48.55 | tremor | unity: is the cd readable in another drive? |
| 19:49.02 | unity | tremor: yes |
| 19:49.31 | unity | tremor: it was also readable in this same drive a month ago |
| 19:49.39 | tuv | tybalt, oh.. sorry.. bash in testing have these lines commented |
| 19:49.45 | tremor | unity: and you can mount other cd's in the drive,which makes problems with this special one atm? |
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| 19:49.53 | tuv | tybalt, are you running testing/unstable? |
| 19:49.58 | tybalt | no |
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| 19:50.09 | tuv | tybalt, stable? |
| 19:50.09 | tybalt | Im running 3.1 |
| 19:50.11 | tybalt | yes |
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| 19:50.17 | unity | tremor: i've tried two cds now, neither worked |
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| 19:50.26 | Nenillo | hi |
| 19:50.31 | unity | tremor: so i think i'll try a different drive, right? |
| 19:50.39 | Nenillo | I'm getting this when I run vncserver |
| 19:50.40 | Nenillo | could not open default font 'fixed' |
| 19:50.51 | tremor | unity: oops. maybe this sounds like this. perhaps you another for testing first. |
| 19:50.57 | tremor | +have |
| 19:50.58 | unity | tybalt: find PS1="blah blah" |
| 19:51.04 | tybalt | right |
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| 19:51.05 | unity | tybalt: that line is your prompt |
| 19:51.17 | tremor | unity: sometimes the cable is the problem. |
| 19:51.20 | tybalt | how do I make it colored? |
| 19:51.39 | unity | tybalt: google for bash color codes |
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| 19:51.55 | unity | tremor: ok thanks |
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| 19:52.14 | tuv | tybalt, the default colors aren't nice anyway.. you can work out yours.. change PS1 to include some color codes (what unity said) |
| 19:52.27 | rae2 | Hey eveyrone, I have been running the default image of 2.6.8-2-386 for quite sometime now. Just curious what the procedure is for using apt-get to upgrade to the latest kernel, hopefully keeping this current kernel image around so I can revert to it if need be. I have always done things by downloading the source, and using make-kpkg, but I'd like to see if I can upgrade to the precompiled binary package this time |
| 19:52.28 | unity | tremor: will /dev/cdrom change to /dev/dvdrom? |
| 19:52.40 | tremor | unity: i dont think so |
| 19:52.56 | sandman | stew: apt-build has issues with gnupg |
| 19:53.00 | tremor | unity: i think, this depends primarily on the device of the bus |
| 19:53.15 | tuv | anyone aware of any d-i beta2 X installation problems? |
| 19:53.18 | unity | tremor: only one way to find out |
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| 19:53.24 | unity | tremor: i may be back |
| 19:53.29 | tremor | unity: or the lense is a bit dirty |
| 19:53.43 | stew | tuv: http://bugs.debian.org/debian-installer |
| 19:54.10 | nse | tybalt: well if you're running a "normal" debian, .bash* files exist only in /etc/skel and in the home directories. if you want i can give them to you |
| 19:54.36 | tremor | someone familiar with wlan (acx111)? i'm not sure,if i named the firmware file correctly. (in #acx100 still silence) |
| 19:55.23 | tybalt | please |
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| 19:56.16 | chealer | rae2: see the DSA |
| 19:56.45 | rae2 | cheaper: Debian System Administration guide? |
| 19:56.57 | nite613_ | I need to recompile apache2 mod_ssl with the flag -DSSL_ENGINE_EXPERIMENTAL. Is there a "debian way" to do this cleanly? |
| 19:57.05 | rae2 | sorry, chealer |
| 19:57.16 | chealer | !tell rae2 about dsa |
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| 19:59.12 | stew | nite613_: /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
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| 19:59.53 | nite613_ | stew: Thanks as always |
| 20:00.04 | rae2 | chealer: I am not following you, I see a post about some root vulnerabilities in 2.6.8, is that what you were pointing me towards? |
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| 20:00.19 | sandman | Firefox likes to crash when I try and browse for files. |
| 20:00.43 | chealer | rae2: Google for DSA-1017 |
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| 20:00.50 | nse | tybalt: ok |
| 20:01.36 | LinuxHelp | alias please='apt-get' alias everything='apt-cache search' |
| 20:01.52 | kspath | sandman: using FF to browse your file system? |
| 20:01.57 | bingo | Hi, is it possible to create a debian package for sid if I use sarge? |
| 20:02.14 | bingo | or I must have sid? |
| 20:02.31 | stew | bingo: you can build it in a sid chroot, look at pbuilder which does this for you |
| 20:02.48 | stew | !pbuilder |
| 20:02.51 | bingo | is it easy? |
| 20:02.55 | stew | bingo: yes |
| 20:02.55 | tybalt | this is very odd: the /etc/bash.bashrc file will only execute for the root account, but none others... |
| 20:03.03 | freezey | tralala: ok this is insane |
| 20:03.22 | freezey | tralala: i found a serial cable but then it has 1 female and 1 male end like usual and canl;t find an adapter |
| 20:03.27 | j-run | tybalt: what are the permissions on it? |
| 20:03.29 | sandman | kspath: To attach a file to a mail |
| 20:03.34 | freezey | tralala so i found a parellal cable with 2 females |
| 20:03.50 | freezey | tralala: can we transfer with this parallel |
| 20:03.52 | kspath | sandman: When using some form of web based email? |
| 20:03.56 | bingo | Stew, cause I stop to use sid now, too much problems... I want to use sarge+backport now |
| 20:04.04 | tybalt | 0777 |
| 20:04.10 | rae2 | chealer: yeah, that is the one. I am just wondering if I can just apt-get install linux-image-2.6.16-1-686 I am concerned that if the kernel doesn't work, that my current 2.6.8 will be overwritten |
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| 20:04.21 | freezey | tralala: which we probably can not |
| 20:04.27 | LinuxHelp | can any1 beat my aliases? |
| 20:04.36 | chealer | rae2: 2.6.16? you run sarge? |
| 20:04.38 | j-run | rae2: no, it will just add to the others |
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| 20:05.01 | stew | !pbuilder is a package which creates a chroot for building packages which are targetted at releases other than the currently installed release. It is useful for checking that a package has the correct build-dependencies as well. apt-get install pbuilder && pager /usr/share/doc/pbuilder/README.Debian |
| 20:05.02 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 20:05.10 | rae2 | chealer: heh.. I can never remember which version I am running, "unstable" I believe |
| 20:05.33 | rae2 | j-run: so is installing the precompiled kernel image binary with that way the standard way of upgrading a stock kernel image? |
| 20:05.36 | nse | tybalt: perhaps this is the way to the system to set some different configurations to the root account |
| 20:05.52 | bingo | stew, dpkg did not know what is pbuilder :-D |
| 20:05.58 | rae2 | chealer: cat /etc/debian_version yields: testing/unstable |
| 20:06.17 | spookyisback | I have a question about stdin redirection, is there someone who knows about that? |
| 20:06.19 | kspath | LinuxHelp: There is no any1 nick in channel. |
| 20:06.23 | tralala | freezey: I don't think so |
| 20:06.24 | freezey | tralala: OK I FOUND IT |
| 20:06.33 | freezey | tralala: found my gender change kit |
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| 20:06.34 | abrotman | spookyisback: just freaking ask |
| 20:06.35 | stew | bingo: she didn't, does now. its a rarity :) |
| 20:06.36 | freezey | tralala: thank god |
| 20:06.51 | nse | chealer: what determines the contect of /etc/debian_version? something related to the sources.list? |
| 20:06.58 | chealer | rae2: uh...1. you should know the debian release you're running. 2. you shouldn't be still running 2.6.8 if you use unstable. 3. you shouldn't use unstable if you don't know how kernel upgrades work |
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| 20:07.08 | sandman | Wow. |
| 20:07.17 | sandman | No matter what version of firefox I use, it crashes. |
| 20:07.19 | rae2 | chealer: all valid points |
| 20:07.21 | chealer | nse: not really, it's a file provided by a package |
| 20:07.30 | freezey | tralala: let me get this setup and we will run this |
| 20:07.32 | stew | base-files: /etc/debian_version |
| 20:07.32 | chealer | !tell rae2 about testing/unstable |
| 20:07.35 | tybalt | nse: do you have any idea how to change this? |
| 20:07.38 | spookyisback | specificaly how do one pause a stdin redirection from a file, so that the receiving program get time to init |
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| 20:07.46 | Shadowcat | sandman: rm -rf ~/.mozilla |
| 20:07.47 | Shadowcat | problem solved |
| 20:07.53 | Shadowcat | beware, this WILL nuke your bookmarks |
| 20:08.08 | stew | spookyisback: it doesn't need time to init. the input will be there waiting for it whenever it is ready to start reading it |
| 20:08.08 | aphexer | what package should i install to have man pages like the dlopen manpage (and others for development...) |
| 20:08.09 | freezey | tralala: ok bootin it up now |
| 20:08.12 | kspath | sandman: Did you test with plain old mozilla or galeon or ... |
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| 20:08.25 | freezey | tralala: i just hooked up my server to the linux laptop i am on right now |
| 20:08.26 | Shadowcat | kspath: it's his profile that's causing the problem, not the binary |
| 20:08.32 | Shadowcat | that's why I just told him to kill the profile |
| 20:08.43 | nite613_ | Is it safe to symlink config files to other places? Like linking /etc/links.cf to /ha0/etc/links.cfg, or will some packages barf on me? |
| 20:08.45 | spookyisback | stew: it doesnt work with telnet |
| 20:08.48 | chealer | !tell aphexer about find dlopen |
| 20:08.54 | tybalt | hmm... whats the difference between interactive bash shells and non-interactive shells? |
| 20:09.04 | kspath | Shadowcat: I had a profile issue not until like long long long ago with netscape I think. |
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| 20:09.08 | lewis | I don't think my /home/user/.spamassassin/user_prefs is being read by spamassassin - any kind of permissions, reloading, or configuration that I have to do after editing the file? |
| 20:09.08 | stew | spookyisback: yes it does |
| 20:09.20 | Shadowcat | kspath: I have them once every two months or so |
| 20:09.25 | Shadowcat | damned extensions |
| 20:09.32 | j-run | I need to resize my root partition. Backup and reinstall? Any simpler solution? |
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| 20:09.39 | kspath | Shadowcat: i have not had one for years now. |
| 20:09.51 | freezey | tralala: ok booted |
| 20:09.59 | aphexer | chealer: thanks, but there doesn't seem to be a man page in the search results |
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| 20:10.02 | freezey | tralala: whats the transfer command and how do i do this?\ |
| 20:10.02 | nse | tybalt: there's no reason for doing so. you should read a bash manual, this is what i am doing. see http://tille.xalasys.com/training/bash/index.html |
| 20:10.34 | chealer | aphexer: for some reason, it seems to be missing from dpkg's db, so apt-cache search manpages |
| 20:10.41 | aphexer | ok |
| 20:10.56 | charzero | where does domain come from if i do mutt -x and to: root ? |
| 20:11.21 | openandfree | is anyone having problems with X since the last etch update? |
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| 20:11.26 | chealer | aphexer: hum, well it's in manpages-dev |
| 20:11.26 | spookyisback | stew: let's say i make a file connect.txt containing: user somename \ pass somepass and execute telnet someip someport < connect.txt that doesnt work |
| 20:11.29 | tybalt | ok, its probably because I dont have a /etc/profile file |
| 20:11.36 | aphexer | chealer: k thanks |
| 20:11.42 | freezey | tralala: you ready? |
| 20:11.45 | bingo | stew, what is the best way to use sarge and to continu to use last versions of applications? |
| 20:11.46 | chealer | openandfree: no, since the last update all problems in X are fixed! |
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| 20:11.56 | matthias_ | Hi! |
| 20:11.58 | tybalt | never mind, I do |
| 20:12.02 | freezey | anyone know how to transfer my kernel over to my other machine i got the serial cable hooked up |
| 20:12.13 | tralala | freezey: I'm sorry I need to go. |
| 20:12.18 | tralala | good luck |
| 20:12.18 | openandfree | chealer ok, i ll update my machine :S |
| 20:12.20 | freezey | tralala: noooooooo |
| 20:12.21 | Shadowcat | transfer your kernel? |
| 20:12.25 | freezey | OMG |
| 20:12.25 | Shadowcat | why? |
| 20:12.28 | freezey | AFTER ALL THIS |
| 20:12.35 | freezey | cause i gotta fix my problem i am having |
| 20:12.40 | freezey | and he was gonn read my kernel |
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| 20:12.47 | freezey | tell me the problem |
| 20:12.53 | Shadowcat | right |
| 20:13.02 | Shadowcat | whatever |
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| 20:13.24 | freezey | anyone else in here that can assist me? |
| 20:14.25 | spookyisback | stew: it's like the telnet session needs to init and get a prompt before it's able to receive input or else it's just quit's |
| 20:14.37 | tybalt | I got it: the /etc/profile file did not source /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 20:14.45 | tybalt | I put the line in /etc/profile and it work snow |
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| 20:14.59 | tybalt | aliases work, but the prompt change did not move over... odd... |
| 20:15.22 | matthias_ | I've got a question concerning the linux kernel. Let's say I have compiled a driver for my GPS mouse into the kernel (not as module). Is it possible to tell the kernel to load this driver at the very end? I don't think so.. |
| 20:15.51 | Shadowcat | matthias_: as far as I know, no |
| 20:15.58 | matthias_ | I think that the only way to control this is compiling the driver as module |
| 20:16.06 | tybalt | maybe its because Im going to the machine on an OS X ssh session |
| 20:16.12 | tremor | as module probably |
| 20:16.21 | stew | spookyisback: you want to use expect or chat then |
| 20:16.22 | tybalt | oh well, at least aliases work. Thanks you all! |
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| 20:16.51 | matthias_ | tremor, you mean specifying the module order? |
| 20:17.18 | rae2 | chealer : thanks for the help, eh |
| 20:17.54 | spookyisback | stew: ahh ok, i'll look into expect |
| 20:18.11 | tremor | matthias_: no. something like suse is doing via rc.local -_- -g- |
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| 20:18.48 | matthias_ | hm, that's ugly |
| 20:19.12 | tremor | yep, it is |
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| 20:20.17 | matthias_ | that's what I want to avoid |
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| 20:22.29 | Denmark | !sli |
| 20:22.30 | dpkg | well, sli is Scan Line Interleaving, a technique for using 2 or more 3D processors in parallel. Each processor renders a little part of the scanlines in the final image. Gives you more fps :) |
| 20:22.52 | RvGaTe | Why does a debian installation needs to setup a mail server by default (corrent me if im wrong)... or at least it askes things that are mail related... what if i dont want that... |
| 20:22.57 | Denmark | Does debian support this?? |
| 20:23.14 | Denmark | RvGaTe : Then you're ignorant. |
| 20:23.16 | abrotman | does Linux?> |
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| 20:23.35 | abrotman | says the guy who just asked a question :) |
| 20:23.35 | stew | Denmark: that's unneccessary |
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| 20:23.40 | RvGaTe | Denmark: thats not really a usefull answer now is it? |
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| 20:24.06 | abrotman | and is ignorant enough to ask if debian supports something instead of Linux or xorg or xfree |
| 20:24.11 | Denmark | RvGaTe : Sorry, I just got aggrevated for no paticular reason, as stew just implied. |
| 20:24.13 | stew | RvGaTe: cron needs to be able to email people the output of their jobs. other apps expect to be able to email the users. debconf will email you sometimes as well |
| 20:24.26 | spookyisback | Hey Denmark are U danish?? |
| 20:24.33 | abrotman | !tell spookyisback about u |
| 20:24.34 | deadcat_ | PMS |
| 20:24.40 | Denmark | RvGaTe : I never used any other OS, so I have a hard time understanding how people who use them think. |
| 20:24.40 | abrotman | Denmark: nvidia card? |
| 20:24.44 | abrotman | rather .. cards |
| 20:24.51 | jnik | SLI doesn't stand for scan line interleave anymore...scalable link interface IIRC....nvidia backronymed it |
| 20:25.04 | RvGaTe | stew: so it uses its own mailserver to do so... is it possible to use a different mailserver, without installing that stuff? |
| 20:25.07 | stew | Denmark: my guess is that debian cannot support it becuase nvidia won't open up their drivers or specs |
| 20:25.11 | Denmark | abrotman : Yeah .. I am considering buying a mobo with nvidia nforce 4 sli x16. |
| 20:25.15 | abrotman | !sli is also Scalable Link Interface |
| 20:25.15 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
| 20:25.20 | abrotman | jnik: better? |
| 20:25.31 | abrotman | Denmark: well .. i assume you're buying it for 3d apps ? |
| 20:25.33 | RvGaTe | Denmark: you are forgiven... :P |
| 20:25.36 | stew | RvGaTe: you mean like an external mailserver on another machine? |
| 20:25.40 | Denmark | abrotman : Indeed. |
| 20:25.46 | Denmark | RvGaTe : Thanks :) |
| 20:25.46 | RvGaTe | stew: external mailserver |
| 20:25.59 | abrotman | Denmark: your best stop will be #nvidia .. they should know more .. the binary nvidia driver will have to support it |
| 20:26.08 | stew | RvGaTe: use nullmailier |
| 20:26.17 | RvGaTe | stew: what's that? |
| 20:26.28 | abrotman | !nullmailer |
| 20:26.28 | dpkg | rumour has it, nullmailer is a minimal mta for hosts which just send directly to smart relays and is at http://em.ca/~bruceg/nullmailer/ |
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| 20:26.32 | Denmark | abrotman : I wish there was a better way .. maybe nvidia will give us one some day, or ATI. |
| 20:26.50 | abrotman | Denmark: or you could stop supporting crappy companies that release binary drivers |
| 20:26.51 | RvGaTe | thx abrotman, ill go check it out |
| 20:26.58 | abrotman | RvGaTe: it's packaged in debian |
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| 20:27.35 | stew | RvGaTe: ssmtp is a similar option |
| 20:27.51 | fragge_ | How do I make swedish characters work in apache? |
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| 20:28.14 | Denmark | abrotman : do you use 3d? If you did, I guess you would know. |
| 20:28.30 | jnik | nvidia added SLI support to their drivers with version 1.0-8174 from 5 Dec. 2005 (IA-32). |
| 20:28.33 | abrotman | Denmark: i do .. and it works just fine |
| 20:28.53 | Denmark | abrotman : Why not show me the way then? |
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| 20:29.04 | shogunx | abrotman> who do we have left that will do that? matrox? |
| 20:29.05 | Denmark | abrotman : I thought nvidia was the only way to go for fast 3d. |
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| 20:29.12 | abrotman | Denmark: because you're a gamer .. and you're stupid about 3d cards .. you'll use whatever shiny thing they drop in front of you |
| 20:29.17 | abrotman | it's like freaking Mac Addicts |
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| 20:29.40 | abrotman | shogunx: hey .. now .. they gave me a decent builtin Intel card in my laptop .. and so far .. i've been able to play all the 3d games i've tried .. and well |
| 20:29.44 | knoxy | Hi all! What syntaxe I use to install debian in smp mode (dual processor box)? |
| 20:29.53 | abrotman | knoxy: P4 smp ? |
| 20:29.59 | knoxy | p3 |
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| 20:30.08 | knoxy | abrotman p3 smp |
| 20:30.09 | concept10 | ahh, im back... for some reason I was _inadvertantly_ banned due to yesterdays attacks |
| 20:30.09 | abrotman | knoxy: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 20:30.10 | Denmark | abrotman : You tried penguin planet? |
| 20:30.10 | stew | knoxy: install it as normal, then after the install is complete, install a smp kenrel |
| 20:30.13 | RvGaTe | stew: its just strange for me to install a mailserver on a home network server that only needs to work as a testing envirement for future websites... also, when sending normal mail using thunderbird i use my providers mailserver. i guess when i setup ssmtp, i can use my providers mailhost instead of the localhost mailserver... |
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| 20:30.15 | abrotman | Denmark: is it packaged?> |
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| 20:30.21 | Denmark | anr |
| 20:30.21 | starfishy | We are trying to locate a debian in the Silicon Valley area that we could copy to take to the Installfest at Desktop Linux Summit |
| 20:30.30 | knoxy | abrotman in instalation.. ?? |
| 20:30.35 | Denmark | abrotman : In unstable ... dunno if the package will work in stable. |
| 20:30.37 | abrotman | Denmark: the last game i tried that wasn't packaged that was decently GL was Danger of the Deep |
| 20:30.40 | shogunx | abrotman thats cool... |
| 20:30.42 | knoxy | abrotman linux26-smp ? |
| 20:30.42 | abrotman | Denmark: remind me at home |
| 20:30.57 | abrotman | knoxy: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 20:31.02 | Denmark | abrotman : Is danger packaged? |
| 20:31.03 | stew | RvGaTe: yeah, really what you need is a /usr/sbin/sendmail that knows how to get the mail going in the right direction, you'll find that ssmtp does little more than to do this, not a full blown mailserver |
| 20:31.03 | knoxy | hmm |
| 20:31.06 | knoxy | abrotman ok |
| 20:31.10 | knoxy | abrotman thanks |
| 20:31.12 | abrotman | starfishy: uhm .. that was worded poorly :) |
| 20:31.21 | starfishy | how would you word it? |
| 20:31.22 | abrotman | Denmark: no .. on the front page of happypenguin though |
| 20:31.27 | Denmark | ok |
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| 20:31.32 | starfishy | a debian mirror of course |
| 20:31.33 | starfishy | sorry |
| 20:31.34 | abrotman | starfishy: if i understood what you were asking .. i might be able to rephrase :) |
| 20:31.47 | starfishy | the word mirror was missing |
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| 20:31.52 | Denmark | abrotman : Btw... I havn't bought a mobo yet .. I trying to find out what is best. |
| 20:31.54 | starfishy | please do |
| 20:32.00 | abrotman | starfishy: makes more sense now |
| 20:32.05 | Denmark | abrotman : I only run gnu/linux. |
| 20:32.06 | abrotman | starfishy: debian.org/mirrors .. make your own ? |
| 20:32.30 | abrotman | Denmark: depends on your needs .. some view the need to play uber-cool games higher than the need for non-binary drivers |
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| 20:32.35 | starfishy | i have one - that broke a week ago and I had to resync from scratch |
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| 20:32.39 | RvGaTe | stew: something different, when i setup a mailserver, can i use that one instead of my prioviders mailserver? |
| 20:32.56 | abrotman | starfishy: so make a new one? |
| 20:33.09 | Denmark | abrotman : I hate to have to make that choice. |
| 20:33.09 | starfishy | and the sync time remaining is longer than I have before I have to leave for SD |
| 20:33.09 | abrotman | Denmark: my intel card is ok .. but i don't play a ton of games |
| 20:33.23 | RvGaTe | stew: then i mean the standart mailserver that i get asked to install when installing debian (<- strange sentince) |
| 20:33.29 | abrotman | starfishy: you'd probably have to look at the mirror list and contact the mirror admin |
| 20:33.33 | starfishy | 37 hours sync time (at 100% line speed) and I have to leave tomorrow |
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| 20:33.38 | stew | starfishy: ftp://linux.csua.berkeley.edu/debian/ maybe? |
| 20:33.40 | starfishy | *nod* |
| 20:33.43 | shogunx | http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAME&PROD_ID=1858567 should work pretty well for games. |
| 20:33.50 | starfishy | i just wondered whether there was someone in the area |
| 20:33.59 | Denmark | abrotman : I doubt oblivion would be playable for you .. then again, its a binary only game .. even m$ only .. but cedega might help (AFAIK). |
| 20:34.01 | abrotman | that has a full mirror ? |
| 20:34.01 | sandman | Isn't ooqstart-gnome deprecated, as it's incorporated into openoffice.org-2.0 now? |
| 20:34.11 | tremor | abrotman: then you're not the usual pc-user .. from the comapnies eye's .. and interests ^^ |
| 20:34.12 | starfishy | just the x86 portion |
| 20:34.16 | abrotman | Denmark: well .. that's two strikes against it |
| 20:34.17 | stew | RvGaTe: it shouldn't matter when you switch to a real mail server, they all provide a compatible /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 20:34.24 | abrotman | tremor: i'm the usual PC user .. not the usual gamer |
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| 20:34.42 | Denmark | abrotman : I am told its the game of all games grahpics wise though. |
| 20:34.55 | starfishy | i already emailed the admin for Stanford |
| 20:35.02 | starfishy | just dont want all my eggs in one basket |
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| 20:35.04 | shogunx | bioware was nice enough to include a shell in the linux version of neverwinter nights. |
| 20:35.05 | abrotman | tremor: let me know the next time you see a guy at bestbuy go .. " OH HOT DAMN .. THIS THING HAS SLI .. THAT'S SO HOT!" |
| 20:35.13 | abrotman | tremor: a guy that is over 40 :) |
| 20:35.18 | Denmark | abrotman : Also, I consider developing 3d games for gnu/linux myself, so I need hardware of the future, so my game will match. |
| 20:35.24 | tremor | abrotman: sorry, should be some kind of sarcasm :( |
| 20:35.27 | Denmark | abrotman : When it is finished. |
| 20:35.29 | tremor | ;) |
| 20:35.31 | stew | abrotman: i'll never see a guy at bestbuy do that |
| 20:35.32 | abrotman | Denmark: or you could write games that normal people could play |
| 20:35.55 | RvGaTe | stew: thx for the info, ill keep it in mind when reinstalling my machine :) |
| 20:35.59 | patterson | bestbusux.org |
| 20:36.02 | abrotman | stew: the best was the buy at bestbuy that said that an HP machine(two years ago) was using Mini-AT PSU .. and i could never get a replacement for it |
| 20:36.03 | Denmark | abrotman : Normal people will be able to play them when they're done. |
| 20:36.06 | patterson | er bestbuysux.org |
| 20:36.15 | abrotman | Denmark: not if you force me to use an nvidia card |
| 20:36.22 | Denmark | abrotman : Never. :-) |
| 20:36.32 | Denmark | abrotman : Thats a promise. :) |
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| 20:36.39 | sandman | apt-get -b source <whatever> doesn't seem to use ccache |
| 20:36.41 | sandman | Anyone know why? |
| 20:36.52 | abrotman | tremor: it's ok . i'll ive |
| 20:36.54 | abrotman | live even |
| 20:36.57 | stew | abrotman: they actually refused to sell a laptop to me when i really needed one becuase i was refusing their add-on warranty. there was no way i was going to buy their warranty, i only needed the machine in a pinch for a weekend |
| 20:37.17 | stew | abrotman: they even went so far as to tell me that if anything at all went wrong on the machine that toshiba was going to refuse to fix it |
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| 20:37.26 | stew | they eventually just asked me to leave the store |
| 20:37.29 | stew | so f them |
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| 20:37.47 | shogunx | stew yep. |
| 20:37.48 | Denmark | stew: I hope you told them that if anyone was leaving the store, it was them. |
| 20:38.25 | abrotman | stew: that's rather stupid .. i just tell them i don't want it .. and if they have a problem .. we'll call corporate :) |
| 20:38.30 | patterson | the stories of woe from employees . bestbuy would appear to be a dysfunctional corporate entity |
| 20:38.32 | stew | Denmark: nah, i just sent letters to bust buy corporate, the local store manager, and now i tell that story to everyone i can |
| 20:38.35 | RvGaTe | stew: couldn't you just take it, and run away? or is that illegal? :P |
| 20:38.40 | abrotman | patterson: been to a compusa lately? |
| 20:38.46 | patterson | heh |
| 20:39.00 | patterson | no. |
| 20:39.24 | abrotman | the mini-AT PSU really was a nice touch .. i went over to the PSU aisle and he got another associate .. and we proved that it would work .. sadly .. he was a CS major from F&M |
| 20:39.33 | Denmark | abrotman : If you go M$ .. you have to accept proprietary OS in order to do anything with your OS. With GNU/Linux, you only need to accept proprietary drivers, if you want the best hardware. |
| 20:39.36 | patterson | newegg. i just stay at home with the curtains closed and every box on |
| 20:40.12 | abrotman | Denmark: depends on the type of hardware .. some of them are pretty good about drivers |
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| 20:40.23 | shogunx | Denmark i sent you a link to a matrox that will eat most nvidia cards lunch. |
| 20:40.42 | MatBoy | already someone here that can help me with my Matrox running under Debian ? |
| 20:40.42 | Denmark | shogunx : I missed it .. unless its in msg? |
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| 20:41.00 | stew | MatBoy: what is the problem? |
| 20:41.03 | shogunx | Denmark, http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAME&PROD_ID=1858567 |
| 20:41.19 | MatBoy | stew: I can't get any screens on it |
| 20:41.21 | Nykheyn | !reiser4 |
| 20:41.21 | shogunx | Denmark, with only free software also |
| 20:41.21 | dpkg | i heard reiser4 is If you want Reiser4, why are you using debian? |
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| 20:41.35 | Denmark | matrox used to be cool |
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| 20:41.38 | JRWR | How do i boot the CD-rom Install from a floppy? so far i keep getting a boot failed msg when i tryed booting a floppy |
| 20:41.48 | MatBoy | Denmark: is it not anymore than ? |
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| 20:41.58 | shogunx | Denmark cool or not, it works, and is well built long lasting hardware. |
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| 20:42.14 | shogunx | with all the shiny gl you can eat. |
| 20:42.15 | ForrestF | How do i boot the CD-rom Install from a floppy? so far i keep getting a boot failed msg when i tryed booting a floppy |
| 20:42.19 | lzhang | the mouse has stopped working on my box, is there any way to restart the mouse without rebooting? |
| 20:42.21 | gesker | Just did a fresh install and dist-upgrade to unstable. System grinds to a halt when left overnight with no activity. Suspect X.org 7. What is the best way to confirm so that a proper/useful bug can be filed. |
| 20:42.21 | MatBoy | shogunx: Now I have to have it running :) |
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| 20:42.38 | shogunx | :) |
| 20:43.38 | MatBoy | shogunx: Do you have experience with it ? |
| 20:43.38 | stew | MatBoy: what version of debian? |
| 20:43.38 | aronofsky | hi , im on testing and i just upgrade my packages and now my amarok is buggy , anyone else noticed it ? |
| 20:43.38 | MatBoy | My 6600LE is working great with Nvidia drivers :D |
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| 20:43.40 | Nykheyn | why dpkg hates reiser4 so far? |
| 20:43.43 | shogunx | MatBoy matrox or that card? |
| 20:43.49 | weasel00 | . |
| 20:43.50 | Denmark | shogunx : Is it very expensive or something - whats the catch? :-) |
| 20:43.55 | MatBoy | Matrox => G200 |
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| 20:44.04 | MatBoy | or something familair |
| 20:44.15 | Denmark | shogunx : I know matrox ruled with 2d cards back in my day ... |
| 20:44.32 | MatBoy | Denmark: it still does.... Quadcards :D |
| 20:44.35 | shogunx | Matboy yeah, i've been around one or two of those cards in my time... |
| 20:44.38 | patterson | multiple monitors |
| 20:44.51 | patterson | like 4 |
| 20:44.55 | MatBoy | shogunx: are you willing to help me out ? I can;t figure out why it's not working :( |
| 20:45.36 | shogunx | MatBoy is your kernel configured for DRI support for that card? |
| 20:45.36 | stew | MatBoy: which x server? which version of debian? |
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| 20:45.51 | MatBoy | I'm running Etch and xorg |
| 20:46.05 | shogunx | Denmark good stuff is rarely cheap new. |
| 20:46.12 | MatBoy | I needed etch because I had a problem with the Matrox + NIc... etch solved this :) |
| 20:46.21 | Denmark | shogunx : Hmm .. this card looks like ordinary PCI? |
| 20:46.37 | shogunx | Den 64bit pci. notice the longer bus? |
| 20:46.37 | MatBoy | Denmark: yes it is... but it's a Quadone :D |
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| 20:46.44 | MatBoy | for $50,- ;) |
| 20:46.44 | ForrestF | How do i boot the CD-rom Install from a floppy? so far i keep getting a boot failed msg when i tryed booting a floppy |
| 20:46.58 | hrtp | hey, if someone is bruceforcing your box, how do you stop them from doing it? |
| 20:47.09 | stew | MatBoy: can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin? |
| 20:47.14 | MatBoy | hrtp: Blokc him in your IPTABLES |
| 20:47.19 | stew | hrtp: apt-cache show fail2ban |
| 20:47.22 | MatBoy | stew, yes I can |
| 20:47.25 | tuv | where did apt-setup go? or how can i add mirrors to sources.list from a list of mirrors? |
| 20:47.27 | shogunx | hrtp full retalitory strike. |
| 20:47.31 | MatBoy | just a sec |
| 20:47.37 | stew | tuv: it went to live on the install cd only |
| 20:47.43 | hrtp | check this out: |
| 20:47.45 | hrtp | Apr 18 02:22:52 localhost sshd[7143]: Illegal user alberto from 71.134.208.254 |
| 20:47.45 | hrtp | Apr 18 02:22:53 localhost sshd[7145]: Illegal user alex from 71.134.208.254 |
| 20:47.45 | hrtp | Apr 18 02:22:54 localhost sshd[7147]: Illegal user alfred from 71.134.208.254 |
| 20:47.46 | stew | tuv: base-config was removed from testing and unstable |
| 20:47.58 | hrtp | how do i prevent this shit? |
| 20:48.12 | stew | 16:49 < stew> hrtp: apt-cache show fail2ban |
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| 20:48.19 | hrtp | k |
| 20:48.28 | tuv | stew, so how can i add a mirror from a list? |
| 20:48.33 | RvGaTe | SourceForge.net = Down for maintenence |
| 20:48.39 | aronofsky | hrtp, dont worry , some shitty hacking attempt , ridiculous |
| 20:48.40 | Denmark | MatBoy : What is that? |
| 20:48.47 | stew | tuv: editor /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:48.55 | hrtp | aronofsky: i know, someone's doing it for days |
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| 20:49.08 | hrtp | and its slowin my connection |
| 20:49.13 | evaded | Hey happy hackers :-) |
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| 20:49.21 | shogunx | hrtp iptables -t filter -A INPUT -s 71.134.208.254 -j DROP |
| 20:49.21 | tuv | stew, well.. i cannot remember the whole url? |
| 20:49.22 | bkudria | <bkudria> when i mount the ext3 partition on my external drive, "[kernel] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds [kernel] EXT3 FS on sdc1, internal journal" appears in my log every second...how can i stop it spamming my logs? |
| 20:49.50 | abrotman | hrtp: we told you yesterday not to paste didn't we ? |
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| 20:50.06 | hrtp | 3 LINES |
| 20:50.06 | MatBoy | stew: Here you first have a lspci: http://pastebin.com/669247 |
| 20:50.07 | hrtp | :) |
| 20:50.17 | abrotman | it's still flooding |
| 20:50.22 | Denmark | bkudria : Don't cite yourself, it doesn't look good, unless you need to make a point about you having said what you said. |
| 20:50.22 | hrtp | ok, you win |
| 20:50.25 | sandman | I can't decide which Java implementation to use. |
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| 20:50.31 | MatBoy | stew: and here the xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/669263 |
| 20:50.45 | hrtp | stew: anyway, i get these errors: |
| 20:50.47 | hrtp | wmli: Unable to locate package fail2ban |
| 20:50.47 | hrtp | e0f: No packages found |
| 20:50.47 | tuv | ok.. i can't find nvidia-glx.. where did it go? how can i install it? |
| 20:50.55 | MatBoy | abrotman: 3 Lines is not worth a pastebin isn't it ? |
| 20:51.03 | tuv | there is only nvidia-glx-legacy |
| 20:51.16 | stew | hrtp: get it from packages.debian.org/fail2ban ; it will safely install on sarge because it only depends on python |
| 20:51.27 | Nykheyn | how to use reiser4 on debian etch |
| 20:51.32 | bkudria | Denmark: sorry, i asked in another channel, and i was copying and pasting |
| 20:51.34 | hrtp | ill try |
| 20:51.35 | hrtp | thanks |
| 20:51.43 | bkudria | Denmark: that is the first time... |
| 20:51.52 | shogunx | stew fail2ban looks pretty slick. |
| 20:51.59 | LoRez | hrtp: I have a script that watches logs and if it sees 5 different usernames from a single IP, it iptables off that IP |
| 20:52.10 | sandman | I've noticed that firefox closes immediately when I try to browse for a file. |
| 20:52.13 | hrtp | LoRez: where? |
| 20:52.16 | Nykheyn | how to use reiser4 on debian etch? |
| 20:52.17 | hrtp | LoRez: got link? |
| 20:52.18 | sandman | I downloaded the bins from mozilla, and then it works. |
| 20:52.20 | pipeline | Nykheyn: Don't. |
| 20:52.29 | sandman | So I'm lead to believe there is something wrong with the bins in the Debian repositories. |
| 20:52.32 | Nykheyn | pipeline, why? |
| 20:52.33 | hrtp | stew: they're testing/unstable |
| 20:52.38 | LoRez | hrtp: I have it on several of my public-network facing machines, and no, it's not public |
| 20:52.42 | pipeline | Nykheyn: Because ReiserFS is a disaster. If you have to ask, just don't. |
| 20:52.43 | lepton | LoRez: throttling of sshd? that's a kernel module |
| 20:52.53 | Denmark | abrotman : You have proprietary BIOS software, right? |
| 20:53.05 | LoRez | lepton: no. it -J DROP's the ip. |
| 20:53.14 | abrotman | MatBoy: one more and he'd have been kicked |
| 20:53.16 | LoRez | hrtp: looks like fail2ban is probably very similar. |
| 20:53.16 | abrotman | Denmark: eh? |
| 20:53.33 | abrotman | Denmark: trust me .. if i could buy a laptop from IBM with an openBIOS .. i would |
| 20:53.35 | hrtp | then what's the point of tellin me that? |
| 20:53.35 | Denmark | abrotman : You use Linux BIOS? |
| 20:53.36 | MatBoy | abrotman: we are all human, aren't we ? |
| 20:53.58 | Denmark | MatBoy : I wouldn't bet on it.. |
| 20:54.02 | Nykheyn | pipeline, but reiser4 is not the fastest file system ever seen, enhancing security and bla bla bla? |
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| 20:54.15 | MatBoy | Denmark: I think that abrotman is a Bot than :p |
| 20:54.33 | Denmark | MatBoy : I know dpkg is .. |
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| 20:54.58 | MatBoy | but dpgk is something, not someone |
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| 20:55.18 | abrotman | Denmark: i use the BIOS on my thinkpad |
| 20:55.18 | shogunx | Linux BIOS on a laptop would be quite a feat. |
| 20:55.18 | MatBoy | there is a big difference between it and are |
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| 20:55.25 | abrotman | Denmark: you misunderstood what i said |
| 20:55.27 | pipeline | Nykheyn: Uh, no. |
| 20:55.32 | abrotman | MatBoy: /nick abotman |
| 20:55.39 | pipeline | Nykheyn: The only thing slower than ReiserFS 4 is ReiserFS 3. |
| 20:55.41 | lepton | LoRez: you sure that's not using netfilter/ipt_recent.ko ? |
| 20:55.49 | evaded | MatBoy: abrotman is not an bot |
| 20:55.55 | abrotman | I AM! |
| 20:55.55 | pipeline | Nykheyn: There's a reason that only one vendor ever supported ReiserFS. And that one vendor has since dropped support. |
| 20:56.02 | LoRez | lepton: sure what's not using it? my script? yes, I'm sure. |
| 20:56.09 | MatBoy | evaded: I think you had to read some lines before ;) |
| 20:56.15 | shogunx | http://linuxbios.org/index.php/Laptop |
| 20:56.23 | MatBoy | stew: still there ? |
| 20:56.27 | evaded | MatBoy: wrong is right |
| 20:56.30 | stew | MatBoy: yup |
| 20:57.12 | MatBoy | evaded: There was a song that was saying that once... a lot of childrend were using drugs in that time... can you make the link ?? all BS ;) |
| 20:57.24 | MatBoy | stew: have you seen the pastebins ? |
| 20:57.36 | evaded | MatBoy: House of 90s |
| 20:57.37 | stew | MatBoy: i saw 2, but neither was what I had asked for |
| 20:57.53 | MatBoy | ow.. what do you need than ? |
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| 20:58.00 | Denmark | shogunx : Any test that compares the matrox? PCI-X is long gone afaik .. I don't see any reason why this card should compete with nvidia 7200+ |
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| 20:58.04 | Nykheyn | pipeline, if reiserFS is so slower why so much people uses that? and then which filesystem should i have to use in my desktop pc in order to have the major performance? |
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| 20:58.06 | stew | 16:48 < stew> MatBoy: can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to a pastebin? |
| 20:58.08 | MatBoy | evaded: has a large HD that he can still remeber that :) |
| 20:58.14 | geronimo89 | hmm :> ubuntu |
| 20:58.16 | MatBoy | stew: ow sorry !! |
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| 20:58.19 | MatBoy | will do that ! |
| 20:58.24 | geronimo89 | is for noobs |
| 20:58.27 | pipeline | Nykheyn: ext3 or XFS. It doesn't really matter. |
| 20:58.46 | pipeline | Nykheyn: The reason people use ReiserFS is that they are idiots. Sheep who actually believe the crazy things Hans says. |
| 20:59.00 | pipeline | Nykheyn: I'm told that Hans Reiser isn't nearly as stupid as he appears to be, he just has too large an ego to ever admit mistakes. |
| 20:59.31 | shogunx | Denmark pci-x will be around for a long time... perhaps not so much in consumer class hardware, but in machines that are built to slightly higher tolerances. |
| 20:59.44 | bkudria | when i mount the ext3 partition on my external drive, "[kernel] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds [kernel] EXT3 FS on sdc1, internal journal" appears in my log every second...how can i stop it spamming my logs? |
| 20:59.47 | Denmark | shogunx . yes |
| 20:59.52 | shogunx | as for benchs on the matrox... google is your friend. |
| 20:59.59 | pipeline | Denmark: PCI-X isn't going anywhere, because it's taking too long for vendors to get PCI-E boards out the door. |
| 21:00.12 | Denmark | shogunx : But I am buying a consumer class computer. PCI-express seems to be the way to go? |
| 21:00.13 | pipeline | Denmark: high-end motherboards usually have two x16 PCI-E slots, and four or more regular PCI-X. |
| 21:00.15 | MatBoy | stew: Here you go: http://pastebin.com/670103 |
| 21:00.35 | pipeline | Denmark: Not really. The only cards that use PCI-E are graphics. Get a board with appropriate PCI-E for your graphics, and plenty of PCI slots. |
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| 21:00.59 | shogunx | Denmark the reason is you cannot get the full use of a nvidia product on linux without submitting some control over YOUR hardware to nvidia. |
| 21:01.14 | ScreaminIke | hi. the deb for lilypond that i got seems to be broken. does anyone know where ic an get a new one? |
| 21:01.18 | Nykheyn | pipeline, but xfs is not the filesystem that is iper-aggressive and dangerous in case of loss of tension or inappropriate shutdown? |
| 21:01.36 | pipeline | Nykheyn: That it is. You will almost certainly lose data in the case of power loss. |
| 21:01.43 | pipeline | Nykheyn: It's still miles ahead of ReiserFS on that note |
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| 21:01.50 | RvGaTe | Im going to grab my current server, reintall it with debian, wish me luck ! :D |
| 21:01.50 | evaded | We can do this |
| 21:01.54 | Denmark | shogunx : I wonder if I can get a mobo with pci-x that doesn't sound like a jet that is starting up ... |
| 21:02.04 | shogunx | Denmark if you are building a machine for yourself, the do yourself a favor and build it from server parts. |
| 21:02.06 | pipeline | Nykheyn: In the case of power loss, you have to use recovery tools to fix your XFS filesystem and make it mountable. You usually lose whatever data wasn't written to disk yet when power failed. |
| 21:02.20 | pipeline | Nykheyn: With ReiserFS, in the case of power loss, it's very likely that all of your data is gone. ReiserFS has no recovery tools at all :( |
| 21:02.22 | abrotman | so much for journalling :) |
| 21:02.24 | evaded | House freaks here? |
| 21:02.28 | abrotman | !fs comparison |
| 21:02.28 | dpkg | hmm... filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ or http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
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| 21:02.33 | abrotman | evaded: yes i watch it .. but it's OT |
| 21:02.34 | pipeline | Nykheyn: The reiserfs recovery tool is basically "grep" |
| 21:02.40 | ScreaminIke | shogunx, why/ |
| 21:02.47 | Denmark | shogunx : My desktop computer is broken. |
| 21:02.48 | pipeline | Nykheyn: God help you if you have a reiserfs fs image in your reiserfs fs that you're trying to fix :) |
| 21:02.58 | shogunx | ScreaminIke, uptime. |
| 21:03.03 | evaded | abrotman: Yes i know :-p playing xmms, ok talking then about xmms ;-) |
| 21:03.10 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
| 21:03.13 | pipeline | abrotman: Heh. The journal is a blessing and a curse. XFS won't allow you to lose any data, including data that only exists in the journal, without user intervention :P |
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| 21:03.19 | shogunx | Denmark... broken? |
| 21:03.28 | abrotman | pipeline: yay ext3! |
| 21:03.35 | evaded | Know you where i can listen to house online with xmms or mplayer? |
| 21:03.38 | Denmark | shogunx : It runs for half an hour or so, then goes dead. |
| 21:03.44 | evaded | Mixed?? |
| 21:03.48 | pipeline | abrotman: ext3 doesn't grow as gracefully, and lacks the awesome, awesome filesystem caching :P |
| 21:03.51 | MatBoy | evaded: http://www.di.fm |
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| 21:03.58 | pipeline | abrotman: That cursed journal makes XFS bloody fast in certain corner cases |
| 21:04.03 | evaded | MatBoy: :-) |
| 21:04.16 | pipeline | abrotman: e.g. very large files, high, repetitive I/O |
| 21:04.16 | MatBoy | evaded: I listen to it for a year now... great great great !! |
| 21:04.23 | shogunx | Denmark temperature your problem is. check the heatsinks i would. |
| 21:04.36 | MatBoy | evaded: All music and mixes can be found on Emule |
| 21:04.37 | stew | MatBoy: both of your Device section should have busids. does the nvidia card actually work? |
| 21:04.39 | abrotman | pipeline: you could read the !fs comparison too .. the second edition of the LG.net comparison is pretty darn interesting |
| 21:04.47 | pipeline | Nykheyn: Oh, by the way, it's highly inadvisable to have an XFS root if you don't also have a miniroot image that contains tools. |
| 21:04.47 | ConfidentiaL | I think I just messed up in the installation of debian here. How do I add more choises to resolutions? |
| 21:04.51 | Nykheyn | pipeline, i have had more and more power loss with reiserfs, but i have never loss my files... |
| 21:05.00 | Denmark | shogunx : I checked both on CPU's and nvidia .. vacummed both .. it helped not much. |
| 21:05.01 | hrtp | LoRez: what's the name of that thing again |
| 21:05.08 | LoRez | hrtp: fail2ban |
| 21:05.09 | pipeline | abrotman: I don't intend to. I'm convinced that Hans Reiser is a gigantic sack of hot air, and I never thought ext3 wasn't a good filesystem :P |
| 21:05.21 | Shadowcat | oh great |
| 21:05.22 | pipeline | abrotman: Unless something new has come along, it can't possibly be very interesting :P |
| 21:05.24 | abrotman | pipeline: uhm .. it actually says ReiserFS sucks |
| 21:05.26 | Shadowcat | fs wars again |
| 21:05.31 | Shadowcat | !start an fs war |
| 21:05.31 | dpkg | jfs is too slow! |
| 21:05.34 | abrotman | pipeline: but it was more about the comparison of xfs and ext3 |
| 21:05.35 | pipeline | abrotman: Well, that's not really surprising. Reiser is very slow :P |
| 21:05.40 | shogunx | Denmark do you have parts and such around to use to isolate the problem to one component? |
| 21:05.45 | MatBoy | stew: I have bus ID's, not for the Nvidia because xorg crashes on that PCI:xx:xx:x. The Nvidia is now working fine with the Nvidia drivers |
| 21:05.53 | pipeline | abrotman: Heh, I would be very surprised if ext3 weren't close to xfs when it's not faster than xfs :P |
| 21:06.00 | Denmark | shogunx : My guess is either mobo or PSU. |
| 21:06.02 | hrtp | LoRez: im talkin about your program |
| 21:06.04 | Shadowcat | just for the record |
| 21:06.08 | Shadowcat | reiser4 rules! |
| 21:06.11 | ConfidentiaL | I think I just messed up in the installation of debian here. How do I add more choises to resolutions? |
| 21:06.19 | Shadowcat | now I got half the channel after me :/ |
| 21:06.26 | MatBoy | stew: you can see the buis ID's in the firstpastebin that I gave you |
| 21:06.29 | LoRez | hrtp: it's called ssh-watch, but it's not public. |
| 21:06.35 | shogunx | Denmark is the psu fan ok? is the box full of cards and disks, such that it would overtzx the psu? |
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| 21:06.40 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: When you configure X, you're really choosing the /maximum/ resolution when it asks you which resolution should be the default. |
| 21:06.49 | shogunx | overtax |
| 21:06.52 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfre86 && dexconf -o /etc/X11/XF86Config |
| 21:06.55 | stew | MatBoy: then try the nv driver and put a busid in there |
| 21:06.57 | hrtp | LoRez: then why did you tell me about it? |
| 21:07.08 | Shadowcat | pipeline: dexconf? |
| 21:07.12 | LoRez | hrtp: you too could script your own. |
| 21:07.20 | pipeline | Shadowcat: dexconf generates a fresh configuration file using values in the debconf db |
| 21:07.25 | Denmark | shogunx : It ran for a long while ... then stopped working. the computer freezes after a few hours of use, at most. |
| 21:07.25 | ConfidentiaL | pipeline: ok, thx |
| 21:07.30 | LoRez | it's not exactly a difficult problem to solve. |
| 21:07.32 | MatBoy | stew: Should that give some disadvantage ? |
| 21:07.33 | pipeline | Shadowcat: it's "deprecated", but it's the sanest thing to do, usually. |
| 21:07.37 | Shadowcat | pipeline: ok |
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| 21:07.48 | stew | MatBoy: do you need 3d support? |
| 21:07.50 | hrtp | LoRez: nvm, found it on google |
| 21:08.03 | LoRez | hrtp: found what on google |
| 21:08.10 | hrtp | ssh-watch |
| 21:08.17 | stew | MatBoy: actually 3d support won't work anyway with xinerama, so probably no disadvantage |
| 21:08.35 | tuv | nvidia-glx is not in testing!! the one in unstable is of different version than the pre-build kernel modules.. what should i do? |
| 21:08.48 | liable | hrtp: theres an article on debian-administration.org that shows you how to do it with iptables |
| 21:08.55 | MatBoy | stew: you have a good point here ! So I don't have anything on the Gforce actually ? |
| 21:09.03 | zinx | tuv: http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia |
| 21:09.06 | shogunx | Denmark ambient temperature of the room? |
| 21:09.07 | LoRez | hrtp: that's hilarious. that's not mine. someone solved the same problem. just install fail2ban |
| 21:09.15 | zinx | tuv: or.. live with testing :/ |
| 21:09.20 | hrtp | LoRez: there's no stable version |
| 21:09.37 | shogunx | stew: glx will work on xinerama. |
| 21:09.39 | abrotman | pipeline: i think it's faster in almost every situation |
| 21:09.47 | abrotman | pipeline: ext3 is faster i mean |
| 21:09.47 | Denmark | shogunx : Same as allways, maybe even cooler. |
| 21:09.48 | zinx | tuv: you can use module-assistant to build the modules |
| 21:09.50 | LoRez | hrtp: so? it's written in python, it'll run just fine |
| 21:09.59 | Denmark | shogunx : Thing is, the mobo is rather old. |
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| 21:10.20 | shogunx | Denmark how old? |
| 21:10.23 | Denmark | ssb: dansk? |
| 21:10.23 | MatBoy | stew: Just a sec, I'm back in some minutes... have to try it ! |
| 21:10.28 | ConfidentiaL | pipeline: Error, the package «xserver-xfre86» was not installed... |
| 21:10.32 | Denmark | shogunx : ASUS A2B-DS |
| 21:11.04 | Denmark | shogunx : My guess is last millinium. |
| 21:11.13 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: You either misspelled it or you're not on sarge. |
| 21:11.18 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:11.20 | Denmark | shogunx : Time to upgrade anyhow. |
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| 21:12.01 | hrtp | LoRez: what if i just edit: hosts.allow and hosts.deny ? |
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| 21:12.13 | ConfidentiaL | pipeline: I copied what u typed... (and about the other thing: I downloaded the netinstaller from www.debian.org)... |
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| 21:12.23 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: So are you on sarge or not? |
| 21:12.26 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: sarge = stable |
| 21:12.28 | shogunx | Denmark I've got machines from 1997 still in production. like i said... consumer class hardware is not built as well as enterprise gear. |
| 21:12.47 | ConfidentiaL | pipeline: I downloaded the stable version, yes |
| 21:12.49 | pipeline | shogunx: That's not always true. I have a lot of utter trash enterprise gear, and a lot of well-manufactured PeeCee toy crap. |
| 21:13.01 | liable | hrtp: several people have given you advice. if you dont want to follow it then why bother asking? |
| 21:13.07 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: Well, sarge only has xserver-xfree86 for X, and nothing else, so if the package isn't there, you don't have X at all. |
| 21:13.08 | Denmark | shogunx : Thats true... I have a netfinity server thats older still running at full pace... |
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| 21:13.22 | Denmark | shogunx : And thats not even a /real/ server .... right? |
| 21:13.27 | pipeline | Denmark: Mid-90s netfinity is "enterprise" now? |
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| 21:13.36 | shogunx | pipeline dell is crap whether its enterprise or not... i'm talking about real unix gear. |
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| 21:13.53 | Denmark | pipeline : nah .. but != consumer class, right? |
| 21:14.06 | pipeline | Denmark: It's PC trash. So yes, it is "consumer class" |
| 21:14.15 | pipeline | Denmark: It's all made by the same chinese companies. |
| 21:14.22 | ConfidentiaL | pipeline: Revelation:P U misspelled the first time... u missed an e in "free". Its working now... thx |
| 21:14.27 | shogunx | pipeline redundant power supplies are great things to have. |
| 21:14.50 | shogunx | fwiw, ibm makes a better machine than most, when it comes to reliability. |
| 21:15.05 | pipeline | and that's why my apartment is filled with dead RS/6000s ? |
| 21:15.23 | pipeline | ok, just a couple |
| 21:15.25 | pipeline | but still, very annoying |
| 21:15.28 | shogunx | pipeline why did you kill your rs/6000? |
| 21:15.51 | pipeline | shogunx: It died all by itself. Left it turned off for a while, motherboard and/or EPROM shat itself. Doesn't even make it through 1/10th of POST. |
| 21:16.18 | shogunx | pipeline thats what the FRU# is for. |
| 21:16.25 | ConfidentiaL | when I configure xserver's graphic, what do I write on the graphics card's bus-ID? |
| 21:16.50 | pipeline | shogunx: It was rather unenlightening, as it did not narrow it down whether the motherboard or the EPROM had shat itself. |
| 21:16.59 | pipeline | ConfidentiaL: Usually, nothing. |
| 21:17.09 | ConfidentiaL | pipeline: ok:P |
| 21:17.14 | POVaddct | ConfidentiaL: unless you have more than one gfx card, you can omit the busid |
| 21:17.57 | shogunx | pipeline there are service manuals for all of those boxes relatively easily available. in those manuals there are walk through diagnostics. |
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| 21:18.17 | pipeline | shogunx: Been there, done that. |
| 21:18.30 | shogunx | pipeline the error on the lcd did not isolate the problem? |
| 21:18.38 | pipeline | shogunx: As far as I'm concerned, the thing is now a coffee table. Something fundamental shat itself, and I ain't exactly going to get spares from IBM. |
| 21:19.07 | shogunx | pipeline. you do not have to get them from ibm... |
| 21:19.09 | pipeline | shogunx: Heh, the error on the LCD indicates that it simply froze up while checking its own EPROM. Passes the first test, then dies. As I have neither new CPU mezzanines, nor new EPROMs, nor new motherboards, I can't really say what's the problem. |
| 21:19.10 | dony | hello, my mouse dosen't work, i must give modprobe psmouse every time i boot to make it work... i can write an /etc/init.d/script to do that command... but isn't there "right" method ? |
| 21:19.16 | pipeline | shogunx: Dude, /nobody/ has IBM spares that old. :P |
| 21:19.39 | POVaddct | dony: echo psmouse >> /etc/modules |
| 21:19.44 | shogunx | pipeline what was the model number... |
| 21:19.56 | pipeline | shogunx: Oh, fucked if I know. It's a 3CT, the desktop version of the 390H. |
| 21:20.08 | dony | POVaddct: thanx |
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| 21:20.12 | pipeline | shogunx: 7030-xxx and/or 7011-xxx, depending which fucked up scheme you use. |
| 21:20.36 | shogunx | pipeline... i have piles of that shit, and can get parts machines all day long. |
| 21:21.11 | POVaddct | dony: be sure to use ">>", not ">". so the line is appended to /etc/modules. |
| 21:21.15 | pipeline | shogunx: Heh, well, it dies on code 124, the second or third test in the POST. I've tried reseating everything on both CPU mezzanine and mothebroard that looks even vaguely like a socketed ROM, and no dice :\ |
| 21:21.30 | pipeline | shogunx: So I'm really just down to replacing things blind and seeing if it makes a difference. |
| 21:21.50 | pipeline | shogunx: So until I find another POWER2 system from the same series to rape for parts, it's a coffee table. |
| 21:21.56 | shogunx | pipeline what did the book say for 124? |
| 21:22.08 | pipeline | shogunx: hang on and lemme check |
| 21:22.37 | shogunx | pipeline> you would be amazed at the cruft like that that accumulates in storage rooms at universities all over the place. |
| 21:22.43 | bkudria | when i mount the ext3 partition on my external drive, "[kernel] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds [kernel] EXT3 FS on sdc1, internal journal" appears in my log every second...how can i stop it spamming my logs? |
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| 21:23.23 | pipeline | shogunx: Ahah, according to the book, it's a 7012 model 39H (well, it's badged 3CT, but that's because it had a framebuffer...) |
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| 21:23.53 | sfire||mouse | what process is recommended for creating many user accounts given a list of username and passwords? |
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| 21:23.57 | MatBoy | stew: No changements |
| 21:24.36 | morbius | I used one of the nightly snapshots for amd64 and it seems that I am unable to install packages such as eclipse/wine - what can I do to resolve this? |
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| 21:24.51 | RvGaTe | When backupping a server, it should be anough / acceptible to backup /etc and /home...that does contain the most valueble data am i right? |
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| 21:25.05 | POVaddct | sfire||mouse: i'd try a shell script with useradd and chpasswd |
| 21:25.07 | pipeline | shogunx: "BIST started a CRC check on the OCS area of NVRAM" |
| 21:25.12 | pipeline | shogunx: It never actually gets to an error code |
| 21:25.19 | ConfidentiaL | when u install debian with the netinstaller, u get the options to install web server, ftp server etc. , but are these all in one package like lampp, or are they seperate? if seperate, what r the different servers called?(to config them) |
| 21:25.30 | nse | !u |
| 21:25.31 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 21:25.33 | pipeline | shogunx: It just shows the 124, then dies after a while. (blank digits on LCD; no terminal output) |
| 21:26.05 | RvGaTe | ConfidentiaL: what i normally do, is install the packages manually later on... |
| 21:26.20 | shogunx | pipeline the service manual should give you a description of what error 124 is. |
| 21:26.22 | tuv | where are the old packages archive at? |
| 21:26.23 | RvGaTe | ConfidentiaL: so that you know what you installed |
| 21:26.29 | pipeline | shogunx: That *IS* the description from the service manual. |
| 21:26.53 | abrotman | ConfidentiaL: those are called tasks |
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| 21:27.00 | medusaXX | hi |
| 21:27.07 | abrotman | ConfidentiaL: they are commonly wanted items .. but they may or may not suit your needcs |
| 21:27.09 | abrotman | needs even |
| 21:27.09 | tuv | is it on cdimage? what is the url please |
| 21:27.16 | Nykheyn | !xfs |
| 21:27.16 | dpkg | well, xfs is the filesystem developed by SGI for high-performance journalling and large disk support. see http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ or http://www.lwfug.org/debian/ for xfs deb tools and deb kernels, or far better and more mature than reiserfs, but not as mature (in linux) as ext3. check out http://people.debian.org/~blade/XFS-Install/ if you want to install woody with XFS support, or more ISOs are at http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/pub/debian-xfs/ |
| 21:27.28 | medusaXX | do you know a tool to check availability of a host (e.g. by pinging) and then executing a script if not reachable? |
| 21:27.46 | shogunx | pipeline its that nvram prom that is failing. |
| 21:27.47 | ConfidentiaL | abrotman: what are they called? so I can uninstall them... |
| 21:28.15 | MatBoy | stew: are there any other ways to check if the card does function right ? And putting it in a windows-machine ;) |
| 21:28.18 | pipeline | shogunx: Yes, but that doesn't tell me much, now does it? As EPROMs don't usually go bad for no reason, it could just as easily be the mezzanine. And both parts are equally unobtainable :P |
| 21:28.29 | sandman | ANyone here use freemind? |
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| 21:28.46 | abrotman | ConfidentiaL: they're called tasks |
| 21:28.47 | abrotman | !tasks |
| 21:28.47 | dpkg | tasks are changing. "apt-get install task-FOOBAR" won't work any more. The new tasksel is going to grep for "Task:" in package headers instead. see <http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=355> |
| 21:28.56 | gnufan | Nykheyn: Surely the interesting thing on XFS is the snapshot support, or did I miss something? |
| 21:29.17 | shogunx | pipeline old unix parts are not unobtainium. |
| 21:29.39 | abrotman | unix makes parts? |
| 21:29.41 | shogunx | pipeline... i'll see if i can find one. |
| 21:29.49 | ConfidentiaL | abrotman: tasks? are they like a package like lampp? or where are they located? |
| 21:29.53 | shogunx | abrotman :) |
| 21:30.01 | abrotman | shogunx: ha! .. caught you! |
| 21:30.03 | morbius | how would I switch from x86_64 to i386? |
| 21:30.09 | abrotman | ConfidentiaL: don't use it .. just install what you need later |
| 21:30.16 | shogunx | abrotman... huh? |
| 21:30.19 | abrotman | morbius: reinstall .. alternately. .. ask #debian-amd64 about chroot |
| 21:30.25 | morbius | ty |
| 21:30.28 | abrotman | shogunx: you konw unix doesn't come in parts .. but hardware does! |
| 21:30.45 | ConfidentiaL | abrotman: But shouldn't I uninstall them before I install something else? |
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| 21:31.15 | shogunx | abrotman... sorry, i have this habit of referring to machines that only run *nix of one flavor or another as "unix machines." |
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| 21:32.04 | abrotman | shogunx: you idiot .. next you'll tell me you like budweiser! |
| 21:32.18 | RvGaTe | !microsoft |
| 21:32.19 | dpkg | hmm... microsoft is the soft conglomerate of stature that provides the food to billions of apathetic morons who want to sit on the asses of thier undoing so their minds can melt into the pixelized universe that is The Daily Show |
| 21:32.24 | RvGaTe | lol ;) |
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| 21:32.44 | shogunx | abrotman just as i have the habit of calling window weenies just that. |
| 21:32.55 | pipeline | shogunx: Well, if you did, that would be awesome. I've been wanting to have an AIX 5 system at home again, and this particular one is near and dear to the heart because it's an old school, low-clock multi-chip POWER. No PPC derivatives in that thing, nosiree :) |
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| 21:33.15 | sandman | Why is it that when I enter apt-get upgrade, it says nothing is to be upgraded. But when I enter apt-get -t [etch,sid] upgrade, it gives me tons of packages to be upgraded? |
| 21:33.18 | abrotman | shogunx: you call windows weenies "unix machines" |
| 21:33.40 | sandman | My system is pinned to etch, so if I apt-get -t etch upgrade, it should give the same result as just apt-get upgrade |
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| 21:33.54 | RvGaTe | What are the /etc/rc<number or character> directories used for ? |
| 21:33.56 | shogunx | abrotman... the only bud for me is green. |
| 21:34.05 | azeem | RvGaTe: runlevels, init startup |
| 21:34.30 | RvGaTe | azeem: thx, learned something today :P |
| 21:34.35 | azeem | man init |
| 21:34.38 | tremor | bye * |
| 21:34.48 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 21:35.12 | shogunx | abrotman usually i call the windows weenies silly names as they try to get into my hostapd secured wifi:) |
| 21:36.05 | abrotman | be a nice guy .. get a second AP .. leave it open .. hand out IPs .. but block outgoing traffic |
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| 21:36.29 | abrotman | shogunx: imagine the time they'll spend trying to debug that |
| 21:36.45 | abrotman | shogunx: or let DNS and Ping through .. but block everything else :) |
| 21:36.46 | MatBoy | stew: still here ? |
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| 21:39.40 | wrtpeeps | anyone know a package that installs php/mysql/apache2/phpmyadmin all for me? |
| 21:39.58 | azeem | wrtpeeps: apt-get |
| 21:40.08 | azeem | or what do you mean by "all for me"? |
| 21:40.15 | wrtpeeps | installs, and configures |
| 21:40.21 | liable | wrtpeeps: you could have done that in a terminal instead of on irc :) |
| 21:40.25 | azeem | apt-get and your editor |
| 21:40.45 | wrtpeeps | :/ |
| 21:40.58 | azeem | wrtpeeps: there is not one configuration which is suitable for everbody |
| 21:41.08 | azeem | you will need to configure things yourself |
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| 21:41.23 | azeem | read a tutorial, there should be a couple of good ones around |
| 21:41.35 | wrtpeeps | meh. Ok. I just know windows has this sort of thing, just wondering if linux did |
| 21:41.51 | Nykheyn | !start an os war |
| 21:41.51 | dpkg | BSD is better than Debian! Amiga Rocks! |
| 21:42.04 | Nykheyn | !start a fs war |
| 21:42.04 | dpkg | ext3 uses too much overhead! |
| 21:42.20 | wrtpeeps | eh |
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| 21:43.21 | deadcat_ | what are the common options to use with rsync? i have -buzvaP --stats aliased, but thats too much since i cant remember that all the time |
| 21:43.32 | asg | wrtpeeps: apt-get install apache2-mpm-preforx php4 php4-mysql phpmyadmin libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 21:43.58 | asg | wrtpeeps: if you want to create a dummy package that does all that, /msg dpkg mg |
| 21:45.07 | RvGaTe | what's a common partition size for a debian install, for installing a basic webserver, how much space do i need for all the system files? (so that i can use as much space that i can get for my home dirs |
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| 21:45.48 | azeem | RvGaTe: well, make sure /var is big enough (possibly putting it on a seperate partition later on) |
| 21:45.57 | azeem | for the rest, 2-5 GB should be plenty IMHO |
| 21:46.30 | wrtpeeps | ty asg |
| 21:46.54 | shogunx | abrotman if i let dns through, nstx defeats it, tho not for many of them:) |
| 21:47.18 | RvGaTe | azeem: i have 10gb in total... |
| 21:47.18 | POVaddct | shogunx: ever got nstx working? |
| 21:47.18 | asg | shogunx: he went home |
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| 21:47.59 | juvenal | e ai |
| 21:48.14 | shogunx | POVaddct, actually, yes. i put nstxd on my wifes server when i had to go to seattle so i could bypass all the crap they put on their wireless. |
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| 21:48.38 | azeem | RvGaTe: so 2GB should be enough |
| 21:48.44 | azeem | RvGaTe: maybe 1.5 |
| 21:48.45 | azeem | dunno |
| 21:48.52 | azeem | this is not legal advice |
| 21:49.01 | RvGaTe | i understand |
| 21:49.04 | POVaddct | shogunx: hmm, i tried with two qemu instances, but the nstx server always segfaulted for me |
| 21:49.13 | RvGaTe | just checking how much my current is |
| 21:49.15 | azeem | RvGaTe: I mean, you can cut it down to around 200MB I guess |
| 21:49.28 | RvGaTe | using 1.1gb for my /var atm |
| 21:49.30 | azeem | but you need some intinate knowledge of Debian then, probably |
| 21:49.35 | azeem | intimate |
| 21:49.42 | shogunx | POVaddct, it always worked no problem for me. |
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| 21:50.18 | shogunx | POVaddct, i used the deb of it too. |
| 21:50.41 | POVaddct | shogunx: i built from source |
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| 21:51.00 | pzn | I'd like to mount automatically usb memory sticks. where to start? pmount/usbmount/udev/hal/... any hint of one of these (or others) that will have a simple solution? |
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| 21:51.48 | pipeline | pzn: hal plus gnome-volume-manager should "just work" without any screwing around. |
| 21:51.51 | RvGaTe | azeem: ill do a 1gb for base, 2gb for /var and the rest (7gb) for /home... i think that should be ok... |
| 21:51.54 | liable | lilo: the bots seem to be back |
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| 21:51.56 | sandman | ifconfig eth0 displays that my IP addy is 169.254.130.8, but it's actually 192.168.1.112 |
| 21:52.33 | neiljp | if I send a message to [bugnum]@bugs.debian.org, it just goes to people subscribed to that bug, right? |
| 21:52.59 | pzn | sandman, is your address static or dhcp? |
| 21:53.03 | asg | pzn: I've used the standard automounter with a --timeout=2 effectively for a while. |
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| 21:53.30 | azeem | RvGaTe: sounds fine |
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| 21:54.38 | ConfidentiaL | is there a shortcut key to "lock screen" and to open console? |
| 21:54.58 | RvGaTe | ConfidentiaL: what do you mean? |
| 21:55.01 | miki2 | mmm |
| 21:55.05 | samuel | assign them with the "keyboard shortcuts" control panel |
| 21:55.07 | asg | ConfidentiaL: I use a wrapper to call 'xlock' and then run 'chvt 1' |
| 21:55.10 | samuel | if your on gnome |
| 21:55.23 | samuel | oh, at the same time? |
| 21:55.33 | shogunx | pipeline the fru# off the nvram chip would be helpful, but not crucial. |
| 21:55.39 | asg | ConfidentiaL: you then call the wrapper with whatever keybinding you set. |
| 21:55.45 | ConfidentiaL | RvGaTe: like in windows u use (windows) + l to switch user... |
| 21:56.07 | ConfidentiaL | asg: how do I do that? :S im kinda new to linux... |
| 21:56.24 | RvGaTe | ConfidentiaL: hmm, never used a GUI before with linux, sorry, cant help you... |
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| 21:57.23 | ConfidentiaL | nvm, im going to bed now... :P |
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| 21:57.36 | asg | ConfidentiaL: check #bash for resources on scripting when you wake up |
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| 21:58.38 | pipeline | shogunx: Heh, I'm not really sure which chip it is. I think it's the old-fashioned-looking purple-with-window EPROM on the CPU mezzanine card? |
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| 21:59.13 | pipeline | shogunx: If I understand the documentation correctly, the "OCS" area of the NVRAM is totally read-only? |
| 21:59.45 | shogunx | pipeline afaik, yes. |
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| 22:00.44 | RvGaTe | bah: i hate it when windows users create folders on a linux system, folders like: "-Soul Calibur III- *PS2 * [voor je verjaardag ;) groeten Kelvin]" and "Nog maar 35 mb over- kan dat?"....... bah |
| 22:01.19 | shogunx | should be on the cpu-riser, pipeline. |
| 22:01.22 | RvGaTe | didn't mention to "call you" bah... |
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| 22:01.45 | sandman | pzn: DHCP |
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| 22:01.53 | pipeline | shogunx: Well, won't hurt to dig the thing up and look :) |
| 22:03.02 | miki2 | anyone can help me with enabling USB on 2.6.8? USB aint working for me, but i tracked whats wrong, just dont know how to get it to work: http://pastebin.com/670243 |
| 22:03.03 | shogunx | pipeline i adore my ess-2105. 4x rs64II x 2 hosts |
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| 22:04.00 | pipeline | shogunx: The purple-chip-with-window on the CPU board is labelled "OCS" |
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| 22:04.28 | shogunx | pipeline thats probably the one. |
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| 22:04.35 | jetscreamer | !info modconf |
| 22:04.39 | jetscreamer | !modconf |
| 22:04.40 | dpkg | well, modconf is a tool to configure/add/delete kernel modules |
| 22:04.45 | dpkg | modconf: (Device Driver Configuration), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.3.0 (sid), Packaged size: 1328 kB, Installed size: 4928 kB |
| 22:04.51 | jetscreamer | !tell miki2 -about modconf |
| 22:04.51 | shogunx | pipeline is there a FRU maked on it anywhere? |
| 22:04.55 | liable | miki2: whats wrong with the 2.6 one? |
| 22:05.00 | pipeline | shogunx: It has several numbers on it; I'm not sure which is the FRU. |
| 22:05.03 | miki2 | jetscreamer: modconf aint working well |
| 22:05.04 | pzn | sandman, I've seing some hosts with this IP 169.254... when the dhcp server fails and it could not get an address... I don't know if this is a default value for something... |
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| 22:05.13 | miki2 | dont have good drivers, only HCD ones |
| 22:05.14 | shogunx | FRU=Field Replacable Unit. |
| 22:05.27 | jetscreamer | modprobe the modules, list them in /etc/modules |
| 22:05.37 | pipeline | shogunx: 11H3525 ? WIP94A ? EAD5A ? The seven digit one must be it... |
| 22:05.57 | shogunx | probably. |
| 22:06.40 | liable | miki2: you had a debian 2.6.8 installed didnt you? |
| 22:06.51 | liable | miki2: a debian image? |
| 22:06.53 | pipeline | shogunx: There's a smaller, newer-style socketed chip on the CPU board, but it's labelled microcode, sooo... |
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| 22:07.14 | miki2 | liable: yes, debian 2.6.8 |
| 22:07.18 | shogunx | pipeline i would not fool with that one just yet. |
| 22:07.23 | miki2 | liabe: i upgraded from 2.4.27 |
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| 22:08.03 | liable | miki2: just about everything that can possibly be in a kernel, is in debian images. I dont understand why your device doesnt work. |
| 22:08.09 | RvGaTe | when choosing the netinstall image or the businesscard image, does it really make any diffence besides the buisnesscard image downloads more of the internet? |
| 22:08.16 | shogunx | pipeline, not unless you want to linuxbios that board:) |
| 22:08.33 | miki2 | liable: check pastebin, difference between kernel configs; http://pastebin.com/670243 |
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| 22:08.50 | miki2 | liable: USB host controllers |
| 22:09.04 | runa_ | hey! one of my servers is running -really- slow. I found that top shows ~90% of wa(it). what it means? |
| 22:09.13 | pipeline | shogunx: Heh, I think the microcode in question is for the processor itself. |
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| 22:09.33 | pipeline | shogunx: POWER2 isn't an RS64 or PPC derivative. It's more a child of the PC-RT / ROMP... |
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| 22:09.48 | liable | miki2: do this, grep -i usb /boot/config-2.6.8(whatever the rest of your kernel is) |
| 22:09.55 | shogunx | pipeline actually, is there a fru on the whole riser? |
| 22:10.08 | shogunx | might be easier to find the chip that way. |
| 22:10.28 | pipeline | shogunx: Heh, I remembered wrong. As it turns out, there's not really a riser. The CPU riser is filled with complicated stuff, it's not braindead :P |
| 22:10.59 | pipeline | shogunx: hmm, the only 7-digit number I see is "11H7708" |
| 22:11.08 | shogunx | the board that slots into this: http://ps-2.kev009.com:8080/ohlandl/RS6000/7012-39H_planar.gif ? |
| 22:11.08 | Doctor | hey what can I use to compare two binary files? |
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| 22:11.15 | miki2 | liabloe: did |
| 22:11.20 | miki2 | liable: did |
| 22:11.27 | BerryAllen | hi all, anyone use cbq.init there to reserv bandwith to a service? im trying to use, the shape (limit) works, but it seems not work with the exceding bandwith (isolated and bounded).... |
| 22:11.48 | liable | miki2: what drivers are missing? |
| 22:11.48 | miki2 | liable: want to see output ? |
| 22:11.53 | shogunx | pipeline if i run across one, i'll let you know. |
| 22:12.04 | liable | miki2: nah its ok, i got a 2.6.8, i can see the options. |
| 22:12.12 | miki2 | liable: i dont know wich ones... |
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| 22:12.43 | miki2 | liable: i dont see any problems related to missing drivers, but i might be wrong |
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| 22:13.48 | miki2 | liable: but 2.4.27 got different drivers loaded(for USB host driver) |
| 22:14.02 | liable | miki2: can you use any usb stuff? are you the person trying to get a modem working? |
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| 22:14.11 | neoxan | hallo freunde |
| 22:14.13 | neoxan | hi girls |
| 22:14.18 | neoxan | :-) |
| 22:14.37 | miki2 | liable: yes, im that person, and i cant get any usb stuff.. not even lspci command work |
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| 22:15.00 | miki2 | liable: but i can download anything needed on 2.4.27 and then install on 2.6.8 |
| 22:15.49 | liable | miki2: when you plug things in, are any modules loaded or nothing happens at all? |
| 22:16.24 | miki2 | liable: nothing, its related to my mobo or kernel driver/controller |
| 22:17.21 | miki2 | liable: btw whats the difference between uhci_hcd and uhci? |
| 22:17.27 | liable | miki2: can you modprobe the modules yourself? |
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| 22:18.12 | liable | miki2: i dont know what the difference is between those two. |
| 22:18.14 | miki2 | liable: i got modconf, and it has only 3 modules... all _HCD |
| 22:18.34 | miki2 | liable: but 2.4.27 loads non _HCD modules |
| 22:19.40 | liable | miki2: what happens when you load them? |
| 22:20.21 | miki2 | liable: with modconf? nothing, i tried all combinations without any sucess |
| 22:20.45 | liable | miki2: but they load? does dmesg say anything about it? |
| 22:21.38 | miki2 | liable: yes, they are loaded... but none works with my USB |
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| 22:22.57 | liable | miki2: is usbcore loaded too? |
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| 22:23.11 | miki2 | liable: i got old dmesg logs saved, let me see |
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| 22:23.46 | liable | miki2: any info on google irt your particular mobo and usb? |
| 22:24.13 | miki2 | liable: its asus mobo, and asus aint supporting linux with any drivers currently :( |
| 22:24.25 | liable | miki2: what model? |
| 22:25.20 | miki2 | liable: P5V800-MX |
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| 22:25.46 | miki2 | VIA P4M800 and VIA VT8251 |
| 22:26.03 | miki2 | sb/nb |
| 22:26.05 | liable | miki2: what usb modules are currently loaded? (lsmod |grep usb) |
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| 22:26.14 | miki2 | liable: on 2.4.27? |
| 22:26.50 | liable | miki2: no, 2.6. are you booted into it now? |
| 22:27.14 | miki2 | im runnin 2.4.27 sience my modem is USB and it wont run on 2.6.8 |
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| 22:27.30 | miki2 | tho now i got this: usbcore 52268 1 [speedtch hid uhci ehci-hcd] |
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| 22:27.43 | miki2 | lsmod aint working under 2.6.8 afaik |
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| 22:28.10 | miki2 | proc/bus/usb is empty on 2.6.8 |
| 22:28.43 | liable | miki2: ah, yeah, i just read something about that via chipset, funny that 2.4 works though.. |
| 22:28.59 | miki2 | liable: it took me few days to get it to work tho |
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| 22:29.30 | miki2 | liable: someone wise told me how to do it :P |
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| 22:29.46 | miki2 | liable: i had similar problems too |
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| 22:30.16 | liable | miki2: did you have to patch the kernel? |
| 22:30.29 | miki2 | liable: dont think so |
| 22:30.45 | liable | miki2: it mentions that 2.6.15 may support it. have you tried building a new kernel? |
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| 22:31.13 | miki2 | liable: hmm, well im running stable but i can try 2.6.15 i guess (or even 2.6..16) |
| 22:31.52 | miki2 | liable: i must change my sources list to install 2.6.16 kernel, right? |
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| 22:32.50 | liable | miki2: you can get one from backports.org just download the .deb file and install it. |
| 22:33.08 | miki2 | liable: i willl get it via apt-get, sec |
| 22:34.41 | Atroc | is there something with iptables i must enable to do port forwarding in debian? |
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| 22:36.07 | miki2 | liable: this line is good? http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main |
| 22:36.46 | liable | miki2: yeah. add that line, update, then install the kernel, then remove that line. |
| 22:37.44 | maunix | hi, i just installed debian 3.1r0, I wish to know good repositories, with stable but updated versions of every software. can anyone point me some? |
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| 22:38.07 | stew | maunix: /msg dpkg backports |
| 22:38.32 | liable | miki2: unless you want to have backports all the time, then do as they say on the site |
| 22:38.43 | maunix | thanks |
| 22:38.50 | stew | Atroc: edit /etc/network/options and change ip_forward to yes, then /etc/init.d/networking restart; did you try something and have it fail? |
| 22:38.59 | miki2 | liable: u maen pin-priority? |
| 22:38.59 | maunix | stew: thanks. |
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| 22:39.33 | liable | miki2: yeah |
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| 22:41.05 | Atroc | stew: is this the same as doing echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/pv4/ip_forward? |
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| 22:41.10 | Atroc | because i got nat to work fine |
| 22:41.20 | miki2 | liable: apt-get installl linux-image-2.6.15-(something here)? |
| 22:41.40 | Atroc | but i'm trying to pass anything from ppp0 on port 3389 to 10.1.1.50:3389 on my internal network |
| 22:41.45 | Atroc | and it's not working |
| 22:41.51 | stew | Atroc: yes |
| 22:41.52 | liable | miki2: -1-686 |
| 22:42.00 | stew | Atroc: what are you trying? |
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| 22:42.19 | liable | miki2: did you pin or just add the line? |
| 22:43.00 | miki2 | liable: just added line |
| 22:43.01 | Atroc | stew: i'm trying to forward port 3389 on my external interface (ppp0) to another ip on my internal network |
| 22:43.17 | stew | Atroc: show me the iptables command |
| 22:43.20 | Atroc | i've set it up...it just...doens't work |
| 22:43.21 | Atroc | ok |
| 22:43.26 | liable | miki2: ok, after updating, apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
| 22:43.33 | stew | Atroc: don't paste more than the one line here though |
| 22:43.40 | miki2 | liable: says that linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 is virtual package and i need to pick more specific one... |
| 22:44.02 | stovenator | Can anybody help me figure out why apt-get keeps remounting my filesystem as read-only? |
| 22:44.07 | liable | miki2: ^^ search for one |
| 22:44.53 | stovenator | I have only only one partition (so /usr is not a separate mount point) |
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| 22:45.07 | miki2 | liable: im going to add pin line, sience searching shows only 2.6.8 |
| 22:45.21 | liable | miki2: did you apt-get update? |
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| 22:45.35 | miki2 | liable: yes, sec |
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| 22:46.23 | Atroc | stew: you get my msg's? |
| 22:46.26 | miki2 | liable: this si what im getting linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 2.6.15-7bpo1 |
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| 22:46.44 | liable | miki2: ok, install that |
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| 22:47.44 | jrgl | hi..everybody! |
| 22:48.11 | miki2 | liable: it says same thing when im adding that bpo1 line... |
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| 22:48.20 | stew | Atroc: no |
| 22:48.31 | Atroc | hmm |
| 22:48.36 | stew | Atroc: use a pastebin or #flood |
| 22:49.06 | jrgl | I found that /var/mail/mail is about 200 MB, but it says 'No mail for root' when I use 'mail' command under root.. |
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| 22:49.11 | liable | miki2: wget www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.15-1-686_2.6.15-7bpo1_i386.deb |
| 22:49.19 | Atroc | i used flood |
| 22:49.20 | liable | miki2: then install it with dpkg |
| 22:49.32 | bruno | hi |
| 22:49.43 | miki2 | liable: wait, theres -i386 at end of bpo1 ? |
| 22:49.55 | liable | miki2: its ok. just install it |
| 22:50.12 | bruno | anyone here use the feed reader feature from thunderbird? |
| 22:50.49 | miki2 | liable: strange, but apt-get didnt show _i386 at end of package |
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| 22:51.55 | liable | miki2: yeah, i dunno what you are seeing, but that wget line should work |
| 22:52.07 | miki2 | liable: eta 2min |
| 22:52.40 | RvGaTe | When installing debian, it gave me this error: Could not download libc6.... never had it before, and my router isn't blocking anything |
| 22:52.48 | liable | i just hope it doesnt want yaird or some bloody thing |
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| 22:53.35 | stew | Atroc: do you have an OUTPUT rule too? |
| 22:53.41 | stew | Atroc: that all looks ok to me otherwise |
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| 22:53.47 | stew | Atroc: you might wanna ask #iptables |
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| 22:55.24 | Woosta | Skype is trying to access /dev/dsp-1 and /dev/mixer .. neither of which I have on this 'testing' machine that uses udev .. how do I get them? (or is there alternative names that I need to work out how to point skype towards) |
| 22:55.52 | miki2 | liable: where is it saved at? |
| 22:56.08 | liable | Woosta: i think theres an app that sorts that out for you. cant remember the name though |
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| 22:56.24 | liable | miki2: whatever dir you were in when you did the wget |
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| 22:56.40 | ENE|Toxic | So I installed a light system with xdm/fluxbox. System tries to start xdm at init phase, but the screen just flickers and returns, giving me only the opportunity to login to console, why's that ? |
| 22:56.49 | liable | miki2: dpkg -i ./linux-image<tab> |
| 22:57.00 | miki2 | isntalling |
| 22:57.13 | Woosta | liable .. thanks .. if you think of it .. don't be shy :-P |
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| 22:57.39 | RvGaTe | Does anyone know how this error could be fixed during the netinstall of debian: Could not download libc6... ? |
| 22:57.47 | magyar | i got a dual head video card and the DVI doesnt come in as the default output, how can i fix that? |
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| 22:57.57 | miki2 | i need to install mkinitr.yard... |
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| 22:58.05 | rovragge | hello. using samba 3.0.14, how can I disable any network broadcasts the server sends out on my subnet? (I know it will remove some functionality but I do not need it) |
| 22:58.43 | liable | miki2: search for it |
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| 23:01.16 | miki2 | liable: is there any apt-get command to make it install all needed packages by default? list of needed ones is very long |
| 23:01.35 | stew | miki2: apt-get install packagename |
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| 23:02.15 | stew | miki2: oh if you have recnetly run dpkg -i ; then apt-get -f install |
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| 23:02.43 | stew | wow, he's finally installing 2.6.15 like i suggested 3 days ago |
| 23:02.57 | liable | miki2: ok, if its a pain in the ass like that, try instlling the kernel with apt again, you just need to put the right package name in. I gotta go to work, will be back later, hopefully you will be fixed. |
| 23:03.09 | liable | stew: hehe, its been going a while now hasnt it. |
| 23:03.21 | stew | yup |
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| 23:03.38 | miki2 | liable: fine... problem is that yaird needs other package and that package needs yaird so im stuck |
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| 23:04.00 | eoLit | hi all, does anyone know in which channel i can ask some questions regarding debian-volatile? |
| 23:04.07 | dony | hello, any ideea how can i rise the gamma/brightness ? |
| 23:04.08 | mle | I have installed Debian on my box but the screen resolution is only 800x600 max. How can I fix this? |
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| 23:04.18 | stew | !drxx dony |
| 23:04.18 | dpkg | dony: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:04.24 | stew | oh |
| 23:04.27 | stew | mle: ^^^^ |
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| 23:04.47 | stew | dony that was not for you |
| 23:04.49 | dony | :) |
| 23:04.50 | miki2 | nvm, downloading :) |
| 23:04.51 | dondelelcaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.03 | mle | k |
| 23:05.07 | stew | #tell dondelelcaro about away |
| 23:05.15 | stew | :P |
| 23:05.18 | liable | me thinks about telling dondelelcaro about away :) |
| 23:05.25 | liable | hah, too slow :) |
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| 23:05.30 | dony | so any ideea about gamma/brightness ? |
| 23:05.56 | stew | dony: xvattr |
| 23:06.02 | liable | miki2: good luck, gotta go. |
| 23:06.10 | stew | (if your xserver is configured to support xv extensions) |
| 23:06.42 | stew | dony: oh, hmm that might only be available from marillat /msg dpkg marillat |
| 23:07.02 | RvGaTe | Does anyone know how this error could be fixed during the netinstall of debian: Could not download libc6... ? (in an ugly red screen, hehe) |
| 23:07.19 | stew | RvGaTe: installing sarge? |
| 23:07.23 | RvGaTe | yeah |
| 23:07.30 | azeem | RvGaTe: you can't fix that, something is going very wrong |
| 23:07.45 | azeem | RvGaTe: hit alt+f2 or alt+f3 and watch out for additional clues |
| 23:07.46 | dony | stew i am using the "fine" drivers from ati... |
| 23:07.48 | RvGaTe | re-burn the cd... thats the only option i figured |
| 23:08.04 | azeem | RvGaTe: what cd did you burn? |
| 23:08.08 | RvGaTe | minimal cd |
| 23:08.10 | RvGaTe | netinstall |
| 23:08.13 | azeem | businesscard? |
| 23:08.15 | RvGaTe | nope |
| 23:08.15 | azeem | or netinst? |
| 23:08.19 | RvGaTe | netinst |
| 23:08.21 | azeem | the 120 MB one? |
| 23:08.25 | RvGaTe | debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 23:08.27 | RvGaTe | that one |
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| 23:08.31 | azeem | ok, that one has libc6 on it |
| 23:08.31 | stew | dony: you probably have support |
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| 23:08.35 | azeem | so likely a bad burn |
| 23:08.41 | stew | wierd xvattr is gpl, wonder why marillat doesn't upload it |
| 23:08.52 | eoLit | anyone for volatile?? |
| 23:09.00 | azeem | eoLit: sorry? |
| 23:09.07 | stew | eoLit: can you be less vague? |
| 23:09.11 | zinx | stew: why would he? |
| 23:09.13 | manalive | (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such device) |
| 23:09.14 | manalive | (EE) I810(0): Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low ?? |
| 23:09.15 | eoLit | im trying to install from debian-volatile |
| 23:09.26 | manalive | # lsmod | grep agp |
| 23:09.26 | manalive | agpgart 34664 0 |
| 23:09.26 | eoLit | but i get dependenciese |
| 23:09.30 | eoLit | oups : |
| 23:09.32 | eoLit | p |
| 23:09.38 | manalive | # grep -i videoram /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:09.38 | manalive | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.41 | RvGaTe | stew: thx for the alt hint, it gave an error: corrupt file |
| 23:09.43 | azeem | eoLit: paste the errors to a pastebin |
| 23:09.45 | azeem | !paster |
| 23:09.45 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 23:09.50 | dony | just found out.. xgamma -gamma value.. worked perfect |
| 23:09.51 | RvGaTe | stew: so im reburning the cd |
| 23:09.55 | stew | RvGaTe: thank azeem ! |
| 23:10.07 | eoLit | one sec |
| 23:10.14 | RvGaTe | azeem: thx :) it was indeed a corrupted file |
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| 23:13.13 | eoLit | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2389 |
| 23:14.21 | eoLit | dunno how paster works :p |
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| 23:14.51 | RvGaTe | stew: i was thanking you for the alt-f2/f4 hint, that made me confirm azeem's suggestion ;) |
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| 23:15.45 | stew | 19:09 < azeem> RvGaTe: hit alt+f2 or alt+f3 and watch out for additional clues |
| 23:16.21 | RvGaTe | gotta learn how to read... |
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| 23:16.26 | stew | :) |
| 23:16.28 | RvGaTe | hehe |
| 23:17.01 | RvGaTe | so, what ya doin stew? |
| 23:17.28 | RvGaTe | (i need to wait 10min for erasing the disc) |
| 23:17.49 | stew | uploading bad ringtones to a incompetent cellphone company |
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| 23:18.01 | RvGaTe | making any money out of it ? |
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| 23:18.35 | stew | RvGaTe: yeah, i'm not doing this for fun |
| 23:18.37 | manalive | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.47 | RvGaTe | stew: hehe :P |
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| 23:19.47 | eoLit | anyone see the output i pasted? |
| 23:19.59 | RvGaTe | eoLit: nope... |
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| 23:20.09 | eoLit | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2389 |
| 23:20.12 | RvGaTe | !tell eoLit about pastebin |
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| 23:21.01 | stew | eoLit: yeah the paste bot doesn't dump the urls in channel anymore, you have to do it yourself, it was being abused |
| 23:22.02 | stew | eoLit: can you paste your sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy libmime-perl" |
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| 23:22.13 | stew | eoLit: err, you can just skip the sources.list and do the last two |
| 23:22.21 | eoLit | ok |
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| 23:23.16 | eoLit | again to the pastebot right? |
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| 23:24.25 | eoLit | done it |
| 23:24.40 | eoLit | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2391 |
| 23:25.05 | RvGaTe | azeem: i know now why the files were corrupted... |
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| 23:26.07 | RvGaTe | azeem: seems that i burned at 42x, altho the cd cant handle that.. :P |
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| 23:26.24 | RvGaTe | azeem: makes me feel a real n00b |
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| 23:27.39 | stew | eoLit: well that says that you do have the correct version of libmime-perl availabe, don't know why it thinks its "not installable", so try "apt-get install libmime-perl" and see what that complains about and so on until you find a root cause |
| 23:27.46 | nse | execution permissions to a file means that it can become a process by forking. am i correct? |
| 23:27.51 | hippi | does anyone remember a cartoon about these people who discoverd that their world was some guys dream so they build a gate to reality to fetch the guy, bring him into his own dream and put him in a sound proof room there so he never wakes up. anyone? |
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| 23:28.12 | eoLit | stew: will do |
| 23:28.20 | quakefire | howdy folks |
| 23:28.45 | zick | hello! is there any way to set a notify to send notice to me when users log in to shell? |
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| 23:30.33 | stew | zick: you can put "auth.* *" into your syslog.conf, but that will notify everyone anytime anyone logs in |
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| 23:31.27 | quakefire | how do i get debian to work with my second monitor? |
| 23:31.33 | stew | zick: actuall i think it should just be "auth *" |
| 23:31.36 | dvs | quakefire: xinerama |
| 23:31.40 | stew | quakefire: find the xinerama howto |
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| 23:31.58 | rovragge | quakefire: depends on your graphics card driver |
| 23:32.02 | tezcA | Hi all |
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| 23:32.31 | zick | stew, hmm ok |
| 23:32.37 | zick | zick, thanks! :) |
| 23:32.46 | quakefire | rovragge its a nvidia geforce FX 5600 |
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| 23:32.52 | zick | i mean, stew :) |
| 23:32.54 | zick | doh ;) |
| 23:32.57 | vinay | http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_images/e16-newlook.jpg <-- what is that command line system monitor on the right? |
| 23:33.34 | eoLit | about the libmime-perl, i just did an apt-get -f install as it suggested, it downloaded a ton of new packages (why so??) and everything is ok |
| 23:34.26 | deadcat | vinay: thats just top |
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| 23:34.43 | deadcat | vinay: htop has better color. but top is pretty much on all machines |
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| 23:35.08 | quakefire | quit |
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| 23:35.20 | deadcat | vinay: oops. thats conky. not top |
| 23:35.25 | stew | vinay: you could also ask #elive |
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| 23:35.58 | rovragge | quakefire: http://sh.nu/nvidia |
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| 23:36.22 | deadcat | and conky sucks |
| 23:37.04 | zick | hmm i added "auth *" to syslog.conf and restarted sysklogd but get no message when logging in |
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| 23:37.26 | stew | zick: try adding "authpriv.* *" then |
| 23:37.32 | zick | stew, ok |
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| 23:38.25 | _spq | does anyone know how to setup a debian box via a recovery system? the problem is that the box should have an amd64 system |
| 23:39.21 | myren | are there any live-cd distros for powerbooks? got a curious friend |
| 23:39.22 | robin_sz | sorryy .. where was I .. oh yes, debian .. xine, DVDs and liddvdcss ... I see dvdcss is not in the distro ... is there a preffewred site to get it? |
| 23:39.33 | vinay | deadcat: conky.. ok, i;ll try that out.. thanks :-) |
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| 23:40.01 | eoLit | thnks guys for the help! :) |
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| 23:41.04 | loggygreg | robin_sz: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 23:41.32 | robin_sz | loggygreg, ta. |
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| 23:47.05 | RvGaTe | finaly installing my debian system... the damn cd had to be burn with 4x instead of 42x |
| 23:47.34 | stew | i always just burn at 4x. i always have something else i can do while i wait |
| 23:48.19 | RvGaTe | thats also a good reason |
| 23:48.39 | _spq | i have a amd64 kernel up with an 32bit debian via nfs, now i want to install a amd64 debian on the hdd but the kernel wont boot, where can be the problem? |
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| 23:51.58 | stew | _spq: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 23:52.28 | _spq | thx |
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| 23:52.45 | stew | i still haven't seen that movie |
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| 23:53.00 | dererk | Hi, does anyone remember a software which makes possible to boot from Cdroms when the hardware doesn't support it? |
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| 23:53.40 | robin_sz | loggygreg, thanks ... sorted :) |
| 23:54.09 | surge | Hi, I'm trying to get the rt2500 kernel module working but am having some difficulty. I copied the 2.4.27-2-386 config over from /boot and ran oldconfig and make dep so that the sources matched the running kernel. I continued to build the rt2500 module. On modprobing it, however, I get unresolved symbol errors. How can this be the case if I compiled against the current kernel? |
| 23:55.00 | dererk | surge, do you have a 2.4.27 kernel actually running? |
| 23:55.07 | surge | dererk: Yep. |
| 23:55.23 | surge | dererk: It's the one from the installer I used. |
| 23:55.53 | dererk | surge, Ok, then you should use the kernel-headers instead |
| 23:55.55 | dererk | But.! |
| 23:56.11 | dererk | surge, There's a package source for that module on the repositories |
| 23:56.26 | surge | Yea, I have the package source. |
| 23:56.52 | dererk | You might use module-assistant |
| 23:56.59 | surge | I'm struggling with this as currently my laptop has no internet connection, and won't do until I get this working. |
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| 23:57.43 | SLi | I have a problem with unstable X upgrade that I can't find from the Xorg69To7 wiki page. Everything else seems to work very nicely, including fonts in every other application, but suddenly emacs only shows boxes instead of characters. I've tried deleting ~/.emacs too. Does anyone have any ideas on this? |
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| 23:58.08 | dererk | surge, module-assistant make the package for you and download all the packages needed |
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| 23:58.25 | ryan` | how do you find out how much memory the system has available to allocate? |
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| 23:58.38 | _spq | free -m |
| 23:58.39 | dererk | ryan`, free ? |
| 23:58.48 | ryan` | no, free doesn't do it. |
| 23:59.13 | surge | dererk: Downloading is a problem here. But how would I use the headers instead of the kernel source? |
| 23:59.14 | ryan` | it lists cached disk data in the main line |
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| 23:59.29 | ryan` | then -buffers/cache removes data from tmpfs filesystems. |
| 23:59.39 | _spq | ryan`, check the output of free again! |
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