| 00:00.00 | godmachine81 | on the Meth comment as well....... AMEN!! |
| 00:00.25 | godmachine81 | *NVS is now known as METH-HEAD |
| 00:00.31 | SimonRaven | amazing, the traffic has died down |
| 00:00.33 | godmachine81 | *nvz is now known as METH-HEAD |
| 00:00.36 | godmachine81 | oops |
| 00:00.36 | thingfish | oh now I didn't mean to insinuate... |
| 00:00.44 | godmachine81 | alright alright |
| 00:00.44 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 00:00.48 | godmachine81 | my bad |
| 00:00.51 | thingfish | I was jibber-jabbering along... |
| 00:01.20 | godmachine81 | apt-get install methamphetamines |
| 00:01.25 | thingfish | ick |
| 00:01.30 | SimonRaven | don't. not fucking worth it |
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| 00:01.51 | godmachine81 | ahh ive had the good crystal before |
| 00:01.59 | godmachine81 | almost ended up dead |
| 00:02.05 | godmachine81 | but i had fun on the highway to hell i guess |
| 00:02.17 | godmachine81 | i think i died a couple of times but i kept coming back to life |
| 00:02.30 | godmachine81 | that shit just wont let your ol heart stop for some reason |
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| 00:03.09 | nvz | I dont know that my hotel will have internet, and I dont have a laptop.. so I probably wont be here much if I decide to go to florida next week |
| 00:03.15 | thingfish | you know...a nice margarita is so much better for you... |
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| 00:03.39 | pab | Having problems installing cvs gtkpod. gtk+2.0 and libglade-2.0? |
| 00:03.44 | nvz | doesnt look like I will miss much, just people asking questions whose answers will do them no justice :P |
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| 00:04.10 | thingfish | nvz: of course you won't miss much. you know nothing ever goes on here. |
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| 00:04.41 | Nopalin | ey |
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| 00:05.06 | Nopalin | i deleted vmware scripts.. how i can unistall it? |
| 00:05.06 | nvz | I've had my ringer on my cell phone at 1 of 8 all day.. I think its a good time to turn it up so I can actually hear people calling. |
| 00:05.29 | nvz | Nopalin: vmware isnt a debian package |
| 00:05.35 | godmachine81 | nvz dont let it get to ya man.. i didnt mean any harm.. i was just goin on with ya.. thanks for the advise on the apt-listchanges, yet i already know about all that stuff.. just trying to see who had updated etch today ;) |
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| 00:05.49 | Fab_Parma | how to create a proxy chain? Thank you |
| 00:06.09 | nvz | godmachine81: etch is not an entity like that, that anyone that has it has what you have. so that info is useless |
| 00:06.13 | Nopalin | nvz: i deleted scrips, and want to reinstall, but it says that vmware is already installed |
| 00:06.50 | nvz | godmachine81: I understand the desire for instant advice like that, but it doesnt exist, and anyone who would provide that kind of info is too stupid to take advice from anyhow |
| 00:06.52 | neoxan | guten morgen |
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| 00:07.20 | nvz | Nopalin: you need to speak to vmware people, not debian people. we dont code, package, or even use that software |
| 00:08.28 | RvGaTe | !dmz |
| 00:08.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dmz is De-militarized Zone, or usually a separate network that has limited access to your internal systems and is accessible in limited ways from untrusted networks like the internet as well |
| 00:09.35 | nvz | I can have etch and have 6 month old packages for Alpha just using console apps, and you can have etch and have 4 month old packages with Xorg and tons of other stuff on i386 and mine could upgrade fine today, and yours may break |
| 00:09.52 | Nopalin | nvz: thanks |
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| 00:10.09 | nvz | there is no definate answer to that.. and anyone who would give you one would be too inexperienced to trust their advice |
| 00:11.38 | fabfabita | how to create a proxy chain? Thank you |
| 00:13.08 | godmachine81 | nvz: i wasnt really asking for advice in the first place.. but lets just drop it ok |
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| 00:17.20 | thingfish | godmachine81: it's not so much what *you* want or need, but what *other* people want or need. just like anywhere else in life. |
| 00:18.13 | thingfish | not that I think this is a fascist age we're living in or anything. all I know is madonna videos. |
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| 00:20.44 | thingfish | it's red! |
| 00:21.04 | CentrX | godmachine81, i haven't been updating because libstdc++6 conflicts with another program (unofficial source) and new xserver-xorg crashes with radeon |
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| 00:21.45 | Entheogen | can someone tell me how to use dmix ? |
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| 00:22.45 | thingfish | Entheogen: dmix is part of Debian? |
| 00:22.54 | zinx | thingfish: dmix is part of ALSA |
| 00:22.56 | thingfish | it's not in sarge. |
| 00:23.01 | zinx | thingfish: ALSA is in Debian |
| 00:23.02 | thingfish | ok |
| 00:23.09 | Entheogen | it's plug in for alsa |
| 00:23.18 | Entheogen | how could I now that i have it installed? |
| 00:23.58 | evaded | Entheogen: dpgk --status <pkg> |
| 00:24.04 | thingfish | I don't have it, and I thought I had a pretty much regular sarge install (alsa included). |
| 00:24.33 | thingfish | zinx: part of alsa-base, or part of alsa-utils? |
| 00:24.44 | zinx | thingfish: part of libasound2, actually. |
| 00:24.45 | evaded | Entheogen: Or you can do 'dpkg -l <pkg>' |
| 00:24.46 | recognizer | Hello, other time, i have problems whit my dvcam , i dont have the '/dev/raw1394' device, someone can help me?, i have Gnome!! |
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| 00:24.55 | zinx | thingfish: But that hardly matters |
| 00:25.11 | zinx | thingfish: if you have alsa installed, you have dmix -- it requires setup to use, and doesn't work with OSS apps, however. |
| 00:25.53 | Entheogen | zinx, how I can make two sounds play at one time?? |
| 00:26.10 | zinx | Entheogen: install windows. |
| 00:26.20 | Entheogen | i don't want to ;) |
| 00:26.34 | zinx | Entheogen: that's not my problem :) |
| 00:26.46 | Entheogen | hehe |
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| 00:27.20 | ceplma | thingfish: dmix -- do you need it? many sound cards (including on my Dell Inspiron, so it doesn't have to be high-end stuff) have this functionality on hardware so I don't have ~/.alsarc at all. |
| 00:27.44 | therock | hello flg |
| 00:27.53 | therock | !tell flg about debian |
| 00:27.58 | ceplma | Entheogen: for many cases just play them (see about hardware mixing on many modern soundcards) |
| 00:28.08 | thingfish | zinx: I assure you I have alsa installed, as I am using it right now. locate dmix returns only /usr/share/libasound2/examples/asound.conf_dmix. |
| 00:28.17 | zinx | thingfish: it's built-in |
| 00:28.25 | zinx | thingfish: look at the example. |
| 00:28.40 | Entheogen | i cannot play them. my soundcard supports hardware mixing (i guess) |
| 00:28.47 | Entheogen | it's cmedia cmi8738 |
| 00:28.53 | zinx | Entheogen: most do not |
| 00:29.50 | thingfish | oh hey cool thank you, zinx! |
| 00:29.58 | thingfish | knowledge = good |
| 00:30.12 | Entheogen | so is tehere any way to make these sounds? :) |
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| 00:30.23 | zinx | Entheogen: several, but they all suck |
| 00:30.28 | zinx | Entheogen: dmix is one way |
| 00:30.47 | Entheogen | but how can I fix this with dmix :)) |
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| 00:31.01 | ceplma | Entheogen: BTW, http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LaSvSaykpE2j4BvEpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB2cXVjNTM5BGNvbG8DdwRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZAM-/SIG=12716fhfh/EXP=1145838618/**http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php%3Fpage=DmixPlugin |
| 00:31.05 | zinx | Entheogen: it's not trivial |
| 00:31.06 | znx | flg: hello |
| 00:31.08 | znx | :P |
| 00:31.10 | zinx | Entheogen: and it only works with alsa apps |
| 00:31.15 | flg | :P rofl |
| 00:31.19 | flg | wb ;P |
| 00:31.23 | znx | tyty :) |
| 00:31.30 | therock | !apache |
| 00:31.30 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, apache is a versatile, high-performance HTTP server; see (apache-common ; apache-dev ; apache-doc ; apache-ssl); they are also Native Americans. or cool helicopters, or ask me about apache-perl5.6, or ask me about apache manual |
| 00:31.38 | znx | ah flg .. see thats dpkg :) |
| 00:31.44 | therock | !beer |
| 00:31.44 | dpkg | it has been said that beer is liquid gold mate |
| 00:31.50 | znx | !beer znx |
| 00:31.57 | znx | danke |
| 00:32.01 | flg | !owner |
| 00:32.01 | dpkg | dondelelcaro owns me |
| 00:32.08 | flg | dondelelcaro hi :D |
| 00:32.14 | flg | !program |
| 00:32.14 | dpkg | program is, like, not required to print an announcement.) |
| 00:32.16 | thingfish | "native american" is deprecated. it's now "first nation" |
| 00:32.19 | flg | !software |
| 00:32.19 | dpkg | methinks software is doing something that hardware should |
| 00:32.24 | flg | !bot |
| 00:32.24 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 00:32.31 | flg | rofl |
| 00:32.33 | flg | what type? |
| 00:32.38 | znx | flg: you can msg the bot |
| 00:32.38 | flg | available? |
| 00:32.46 | flg | i tried |
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| 00:32.56 | flg | rofl, my fault :P |
| 00:32.57 | flg | ok |
| 00:33.00 | znx | /msg dpkg bot |
| 00:33.04 | znx | for instance |
| 00:33.18 | flg | fn~ here ;) freaky bnc... i forgot again :D too late |
| 00:33.25 | recognizer | hello, i have problems when i load raw1394 and dont apear /dev/raw1394? any know what happen? |
| 00:33.30 | flg | is it an eggie? |
| 00:33.37 | znx | flg: no its a blootbot too |
| 00:33.38 | flg | i run too thats why i ask |
| 00:33.41 | flg | ah ic |
| 00:33.47 | flg | works on different than debian too? |
| 00:34.02 | znx | flg: its based on perl.. |
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| 00:34.14 | znx | should work on pretty much everything that can run perl :P |
| 00:34.32 | flg | nice... i use eggie atm over at #joomla to have FAQs saved. |
| 00:34.34 | tempy | hi, i was trying to restart my sys with debian-minimal.iso after wiping my drive, is there any good reason why it won't reboot? ... pclinux live runs, knoppix 3.9 live runs, puppy linux live runs |
| 00:34.37 | flg | thinking about to chg that |
| 00:34.57 | znx | flg: its easy to teach it too .. and protect/forget etc .. |
| 00:35.05 | flg | how to teach? |
| 00:35.12 | flg | forget what |
| 00:35.14 | flg | bans? |
| 00:35.22 | znx | flg: item is <reply> fact |
| 00:35.36 | flg | fact? |
| 00:35.36 | znx | flg: no forget items :) |
| 00:35.48 | flg | whats that for use :D |
| 00:35.49 | znx | like: flg is <reply> someone interested in blootbot |
| 00:35.52 | flg | for what use |
| 00:35.57 | flg | well... events eg... lol ok |
| 00:36.05 | znx | then !flg would reply someone interested in blootbot |
| 00:36.09 | recognizer | How i load the raw1394 module and write it on /dev/raw1394? someone know? |
| 00:36.19 | flg | <reply> u mean is obvious ther |
| 00:36.20 | flg | +e |
| 00:36.28 | flg | only to show u put reply after :P |
| 00:36.36 | znx | no that is intentional |
| 00:36.38 | flg | flg is a nice man |
| 00:36.43 | znx | you can do that too |
| 00:36.47 | flg | flg is <reply> a nice man |
| 00:36.47 | ceplma | !flg |
| 00:36.59 | znx | you cna do: flg is also a nice man ... to add actions |
| 00:37.07 | ceplma | !man |
| 00:37.07 | dpkg | man is, like, a little guy that knows everything about linux... just do man <commandname> and he will teach you all about <commandname>, or http://man.mirrorlynx.com to get online manpages, or mannotincluded.com, or a Municipal Area Network (city), or check ASD @ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/asd/ |
| 00:37.13 | jetscreamer | !! forget |
| 00:37.16 | flg | not allowed imho ;) so it can take keywords with spaces and non alpha chars? |
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| 00:37.24 | jetscreamer | !! forget flg...hehehe |
| 00:37.25 | znx | yes and yes |
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| 00:37.37 | flg | whoot |
| 00:37.47 | thingfish | I think I'm trapped in a bad conceptual art installation. |
| 00:37.51 | flg | way to go :D hate the !learn script i use with eggie :/ only alpha keywords |
| 00:37.53 | flg | rest is ok |
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| 00:38.06 | jetscreamer | !literal flg |
| 00:38.10 | znx | flg: you can replace the trigger too.. as you have seen |
| 00:38.18 | flg | oh yeah, etoy is in town next WED: D |
| 00:38.19 | jetscreamer | !factinfo flg |
| 00:38.19 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as flg, jetscreamer |
| 00:38.24 | flg | hope so... or was it :( |
| 00:38.39 | flg | factinfo? thats long for !flg ? |
| 00:38.50 | znx | flg: no .. thats about who made the cahnge |
| 00:38.53 | znx | !factinfo man |
| 00:38.53 | dpkg | man -- last modified at Mon Oct 18 22:16:00 2004 by intero!~desktop@81-208-106-71.fastres.net; it has been requested 91 times, last by cddesjar at Fri Nov 25 13:24:43 2005. |
| 00:38.55 | flg | that looks very similar like javabot i once tested |
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| 00:39.00 | flg | ah cool |
| 00:39.08 | jetscreamer | no you didn't prefix it with ! |
| 00:39.15 | flg | fine bot ^^ think ill change :D |
| 00:39.15 | jetscreamer | so the bot didn't listen |
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| 00:39.35 | znx | !blootbot |
| 00:39.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, blootbot is a severely mutiliated infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 00:39.38 | znx | :) |
| 00:39.55 | ACU07 | guys I am still strugling to formulate the right command to wget from backports.org all the packages for i386 - not the others - can you help me |
| 00:40.22 | znx | ACU07: you could use -m for "mirror |
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| 00:40.45 | ACU07 | I want to burn them on a DVD and have it for somebody which does not have internet access ------ |
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| 00:41.00 | killown | how obtain cloak for my nick to hide ip? |
| 00:41.06 | znx | ACU07: wget -m http://path/ |
| 00:41.13 | znx | killown: speak to a staffer |
| 00:41.17 | znx | /stats p |
| 00:41.35 | liable | killown: read the freenode faq |
| 00:41.38 | flg | OS:{WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600)} ¤ Up:{6d 13h 47m 14s} ¤ CPU:{1 CPU - Intel Pentium III, 996 MHz, L1: 16KB L2: 256KB (6% Load)} ¤ Mem:{Usage: 181/224MB (80.80%) ¤ {||||||||--}} ¤ HD:{Total/Free: 18.64/0.64GB} |
| 00:41.41 | flg | rofl sry |
| 00:41.43 | ACU07 | znx- wget -rpm ? ----- but what should I do to get only i386 packages - as in the Mirror there are all other architectures Risc, AMD64 etc |
| 00:42.05 | znx | ACU07: are they all in the same path? |
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| 00:42.51 | flg | can blootbot google too? |
| 00:43.01 | flg | addon scripts? |
| 00:43.16 | ACU07 | Yes - here it is: http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/ ---- maybe you can look and tell me how to do |
| 00:43.57 | znx | ACU07: http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/9/915resolution/ ah yeah .. i see .. |
| 00:44.18 | znx | well you can add in a -R reject |
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| 00:44.49 | znx | like -R "*amd64.deb" |
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| 00:45.08 | ACU07 | I was wondering if before an wget -rpm *i386.* http ? |
| 00:45.09 | znx | or -R "*amd64.deb,*something.deb" for more than one |
| 00:45.22 | znx | ACU07: no that doesnt work .. :\ |
| 00:45.30 | znx | you can do an A accept list.. |
| 00:46.40 | m4y | hi I have IPC question .... i have 3 progs. first on is a init prog. whiich handling semaphores, SH MEm & Massage Q, the other one is server which using IPC res. and the 3-rd on is klient wchich is using IPS as well , wchich signal i have to send if I`m closiing init to finish serv & klient |
| 00:46.46 | znx | ACU07: ... wget -m -A "*_i386.deb" http:// |
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| 00:47.41 | ACU07 | OK - last question I started to wget everything is any way to stop it ? |
| 00:47.47 | znx | Ctrl+C |
| 00:47.57 | flg | can blootbot google too? |
| 00:47.58 | flg | addon scripts? |
| 00:48.15 | znx | flg: i dont think so.. infobot only |
| 00:48.22 | flg | is :/ |
| 00:48.24 | jetscreamer | be sure and use wget -c |
| 00:48.24 | flg | ic |
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| 00:48.30 | jetscreamer | so you can resume |
| 00:48.32 | flg | not enough :( |
| 00:48.40 | roderyk | Does sed have a non-greedy option? echo "Battery 1: discharging, 78%, 01:14:09 remaining" | sed 's/.*://' ==> results in '09 remaining' and I just want to kill the 'Battery 1: ' |
| 00:48.42 | flg | well imho write own perls with it works... ? |
| 00:48.43 | flg | api? |
| 00:48.48 | liable | i think dpkg can google, havent seen iit for a while though |
| 00:48.55 | SimonRaven | yes. you enable it |
| 00:48.58 | flg | mkay i check web then |
| 00:48.59 | jetscreamer | !help google |
| 00:49.05 | znx | roderyk: s/.*[0-9]: // ? |
| 00:49.15 | flg | that would be enough. info and google... |
| 00:49.18 | flg | mhh.. nice |
| 00:49.22 | flg | thanks alot guys :D |
| 00:49.22 | m4y | anybody knows somethingabout IPC ? |
| 00:49.28 | flg | better use perl than tcl :P |
| 00:49.34 | jetscreamer | check #supybot out also |
| 00:49.45 | flg | on freenode? |
| 00:49.45 | roderyk | znx: thanks |
| 00:49.47 | flg | think so ;) |
| 00:49.54 | roderyk | znx: guess that's good enough ;) |
| 00:50.06 | flg | yup there, thx |
| 00:50.15 | znx | roderyk: just getting around it .. rather than solving it ;) |
| 00:50.48 | jetscreamer | !info supybot |
| 00:50.51 | roderyk | znx: yep. I can only assume that sed does not have non-greedy matching? ^^ |
| 00:50.54 | dpkg | supybot: (robust and user friendly Python IRC bot), section net, is optional. Version: 0.83.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 446 kB, Installed size: 2896 kB |
| 00:51.08 | znx | roderyk: well i think it can do non-greedy.. |
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| 00:52.11 | RvGaTe | How do i make an user un-able to use ssh? |
| 00:52.24 | znx | RvGaTe: DenyUser in the sshd_config |
| 00:52.43 | znx | roderyk: i think is something like a backwards match.. |
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| 00:52.53 | znx | ie .. sed goes from right to left.. |
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| 00:53.06 | Erpo | Is there a program that will configure my kernel for me? |
| 00:53.12 | znx | so ".*?: " would match the further : first .. not last |
| 00:54.12 | magyar | is there a way to determine if "CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER" is enabled? |
| 00:54.12 | znx | Erpo: there is a good howto available ? |
| 00:54.12 | Erpo | znx: I know how to do it. I just don't want to. I want my computer to do it automatically. |
| 00:54.12 | znx | magyar: gunzip < /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER ? maybe |
| 00:54.16 | roderyk | znx: I first tried *? syntax, like so: echo "Battery 1: discharging, 78%, 01:14:09 remaining" | sed 's/.*?://' returned the whole string back |
| 00:54.18 | znx | Erpo: you could just script it then? |
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| 00:54.43 | Erpo | znx: Options change all the time. I just want a simple program that will detect my hardware and built a kernel that works with all of it. |
| 00:55.13 | Erpo | znx: Maybe I could script something like that, but I don't want to spend the time. |
| 00:55.23 | znx | ive not seen something to do that.. |
| 00:55.25 | roderyk | Erpo: that sounds anything but simple ^^ |
| 00:55.36 | znx | you could just make it built every module Erpo ? :P |
| 00:55.50 | magyar | znx: thanks |
| 00:55.56 | znx | magyar: :) |
| 00:56.00 | Erpo | znx: Not quite. What about the "module" for my hard disk where the modules are stored? |
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| 00:56.11 | ACU07 | znx - do you think this is OK to get the files to the folder BACKPORTS on my desktop? --- wget -m -A "_i386.*" http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/;to|/home/ida01/Desktop/BACKPORTS |
| 00:56.25 | Erpo | roderyk: I meant simple to use. I don't care how complicated it has to be on the inside to get the job done. |
| 00:56.45 | cyberia\\ | hi, how can i install grub into the mbr of another disk and make it point at the debian installation on thatsame disk |
| 00:56.58 | magyar | znx: when it rains it poors :) |
| 00:57.10 | cyberia\\ | i plan to remove the drive im using to do this afterwards because its going bad.. |
| 00:57.24 | znx | ACU07: it will mirror.. ie with the URL path .. |
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| 00:57.26 | znx | magyar: ;) |
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| 00:58.24 | ACU07 | means it will great an website like- ---- will it go in my folder called Backports ? |
| 00:58.25 | recognizer | hello, how i can to make the device on /dev/raw1394? |
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| 00:59.45 | znx | ACU07: you can start the command in that folder >> and use -nH to remove the leading host |
| 01:00.34 | munga | recognizer: if MAKEDEV doesn't work you need to use mknod and specify the major and minor value for the particular device |
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| 01:01.13 | StriderZ | is there some special way to deal with debian's initrd images? What tools do I use? |
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| 01:02.02 | munga | is xorg in unstable still broken or is it "safe" to dist-upgrade ? |
| 01:02.06 | munga | StriderZ: mkinitrd |
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| 01:03.13 | recognizer | munga: you know why , when i load raw1394 no apear on /dev/1394? i use Gnome2.8 |
| 01:03.13 | ACU07 | maaaan ! - this wget kiks ass! ----is so cool I have the backports.org backed up - I LOVE IT --- thanks znx |
| 01:03.19 | znx | :) |
| 01:03.53 | znx | and on that note.. im going to sleep :) |
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| 01:04.43 | jw2328 | Have i got this right? While bash scripting if I pipe one command to another then use $? to get the return value i will get the return value of the command on the right of the pipe. If so is there a way to get the return value of the first command? |
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| 01:05.08 | munga | recognizer: I never used that device (firewire isn't it ?) . mine was a general suggestion. If you're using udev (as you probably are if you have gnome 2.8) the problem might be related to it ... but I don't know anything about udev either... |
| 01:05.18 | StriderZ | munga: do I just uncompress the image to change something? I need the initrd to look somewhere else for the kernel |
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| 01:05.46 | znx | jw2328: $PIPESTATUS[] an array of the return values .. its a bash thing only i think .. |
| 01:05.50 | Xenguy | jw2328: I dunno if 'cut' might help? |
| 01:05.54 | recognizer | munga: ok tanks |
| 01:05.55 | devin__ | anyone else getting this? W: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/libf/libfontenc/libfontenc1_1.0.1-3_i386.deb |
| 01:05.55 | devin__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:06.49 | erhanugur | debian start -> auto start apache -- how? |
| 01:07.10 | Jake_ | how do i go about setting up my iptables firewall, ive created my rules etc - its happy :D - but now too save them? |
| 01:07.35 | Arafangion | devin__: Have you apt-get update'ed? |
| 01:08.20 | jw2328 | znx: bingo, thanks. |
| 01:08.20 | munga | StriderZ: have a loo at mkinitrd.conf ... I'm not an expert. I've used it only a couple ot times when building customs kernels... |
| 01:08.32 | devin__ | Arafangion yeah i did forget too .. ill see if that fixes it |
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| 01:08.57 | munga | erhanugur: /etc/init/apache start ? |
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| 01:09.14 | homer | debian boot and auto start? |
| 01:09.23 | StriderZ | munga: *thats* the file I was trying to figure out. I know I dealt with it before but wasn't sure what it was. Thanks :) |
| 01:10.10 | munga | Jake_: you need to create a file with your rules and then have a script in /etc/init.d to start/stop your firewall using your rules. There alre also scripts that do this for you ... |
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| 01:10.42 | homer | ok |
| 01:11.45 | SimonRaven | /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples |
| 01:11.51 | devin__ | how do i list broken packages? |
| 01:11.52 | munga | homer: you have to specify in /etc/default/apache2 NO_START=0 ... |
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| 01:13.27 | munga | devin__: what do you mean broken ? dpkg -l | grep -E "you code ..." |
| 01:13.30 | StriderZ | damn, that still doesn't allow me to say where the actual kernel is |
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| 01:14.21 | Jake_ | arent those old init scripts "legacy" ? |
| 01:15.21 | devin__ | brb |
| 01:15.50 | oboy | is it possible to re-partitionate a ext3 partition without compromising data in order to get a bigger partition? |
| 01:16.18 | tfan | Hi, when I try to install a AMD 64 version of debian, I get the following error during the installation of the base system: Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc - Can anyone help solving this issue? :( |
| 01:16.33 | munga | StriderZ: take this with a grain of salt... mkintrd looks in /var/lib/modules/$version ... IIRC and you can specify $version from the command line. Therefore you |
| 01:16.51 | munga | have to install you're kernel and the run mkitinrd ... |
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| 01:17.16 | munga | StriderZ: give it a try, but this might be a totally stupid suggestion ... |
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| 01:18.07 | munga | StriderZ: and actually, IIRC, mkintrd is called in post-inst when you intsalll the kernel anyway. so the kernel should already be there ... |
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| 01:19.37 | munga | oboy: http://lwn.net/Articles/89560/ |
| 01:19.46 | Arafangion | oboy: Only if you use LVM, afaik. |
| 01:19.49 | juice` | any idea why my kernel says "FATAL: Module ip_tables not found." ? this is my .config http://pastebin.com/676188 |
| 01:19.57 | juice` | it says so after i do iptables -L |
| 01:19.58 | oboy | thanks |
| 01:20.04 | StriderZ | munga: it's a kernel I built using the debian kernel's .config. I need to use the same initrd. |
| 01:20.14 | juice` | also "iptables v1.3.3: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)" |
| 01:20.27 | Arafangion | oboy: LVM apparently allows you to go as far as merge multiple USB discs into one physical partition. |
| 01:20.50 | juice` | kernel is 2.6.16.9... and i dont know... |
| 01:20.59 | munga | juice`: probably because you don |
| 01:21.11 | munga | juice`: probably because you don't have the module loaded ... |
| 01:21.31 | juice` | munga: well then someone is wrong, if there has to be _MODULE_ loaded |
| 01:21.41 | Arafangion | StriderZ: You failed to install the modules. |
| 01:21.43 | juice` | munga: i can select it in kernel as not module |
| 01:21.50 | oboy | yeah nice, but i have not LVM :-( |
| 01:21.54 | Arafangion | StriderZ: Sounds like you just compiled the kernel itself. |
| 01:21.58 | Arafangion | oboy: I know :) |
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| 01:22.09 | juice` | munga: but to compile it in staticaly, and so i did that |
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| 01:22.33 | evaded | How can i do to always use 'python2.4' when i type 'python'? |
| 01:22.37 | munga | oboy: http://ext2resize.sourceforge.net/ google is your friend ... |
| 01:23.04 | StriderZ | Arafangion: nah, they there. |
| 01:23.14 | evaded | Default it's the 2.3 that run and i need to type then 'python2.4' but that i forget always :-/ |
| 01:23.21 | Arafangion | StriderZ: You did make modules install? |
| 01:23.31 | StriderZ | Arafangion: of course. |
| 01:23.38 | juice` | so anyone got any ideas why 2.6.16 says FATAL: Module ip_tables not found. after typing in iptables -L ? |
| 01:23.42 | Arafangion | StriderZ: Ok, that's odd. |
| 01:24.03 | StriderZ | Arafangion: How does the initrd know where the kernel is?/// |
| 01:24.08 | Arafangion | StriderZ: Perhaps the initrd has a very minimal set of modules, and a different set are actually installed? (Shouldn't be a problem if it's the same running kernel) |
| 01:24.13 | munga | evaded: I think this might be related with update-alternatives (you need to select your default) |
| 01:24.14 | evaded | Or i remember to it when an module are not available like that one of 'subprocess' |
| 01:24.16 | Arafangion | StriderZ: It's tacked right on the end of the kernel. |
| 01:24.29 | devin__ | is there a way to downgrade a package? i wanna downgrade x-window-system 1:0.74 back to 6.9 ? |
| 01:24.41 | evaded | munga: Been possible, i look to it. Thanks to you ;-) |
| 01:24.42 | Arafangion | StriderZ: And the kernel queries the initrd, not the other way around. |
| 01:24.54 | Arafangion | devin__: Yes, but it's not easy. |
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| 01:25.12 | juice` | nobody here using kernel 2.6.16 + iptables? :( |
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| 01:25.30 | munga | devin__: possible yes (via pinning ... I don't know the details) you should have a look at snapshot.debian.org |
| 01:25.46 | Azar | Arafangion: interesting, how did you do that? |
| 01:26.00 | Arafangion | Azar: A crucial factor was not updating the Sid for 6 months. |
| 01:26.17 | Azar | Arafangion: cool thanks for the tip |
| 01:26.21 | evaded | munga: I get not output with 'update-alternatives --list python' :-( So i guess it's not there to do |
| 01:26.21 | StriderZ | Arafangion: you are so right. I was looking at the grub config file all wrong...LOL |
| 01:26.22 | Arafangion | Azar: And I also made use of Etch. |
| 01:26.25 | StriderZ | bbiab |
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| 01:27.39 | Azar | the only difference I see from Sarge to Etch is that I get an error message when I close irssi |
| 01:28.36 | Arafangion | Azar: The Sid also predated the gcc4 transition, as I hadn't updated it in so long. |
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| 01:29.10 | evaded | munga: I have try with 'update-alternatives --all' but it's not there |
| 01:29.20 | Azar | Arafangion: the way I read it gcc4 is good news |
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| 01:30.07 | evaded | munga: I think that i need to define an Export variable to the python2.3. I remember that i have see that here but i not know exactly how to do it |
| 01:30.57 | Arafangion | Azar: Well, to give you a taste, the C++ ABI changed. |
| 01:31.00 | evaded | munga: Semethings like "EXPORT='python2.3'" and then place that some else so when i reboot ... |
| 01:31.30 | Arafangion | Azar: So EVERYTHING that uses C++ becomes more difficult to downgrade. |
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| 01:31.46 | munga | evaded: http://groups.google.com.au/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/193de68f18ca3fe2/e2b221f90402ae60?lnk=st&q=update-alternatives+python+debian&rnum=1&hl=en#e2b221f90402ae60 |
| 01:32.14 | evaded | munga: ;-) i do it |
| 01:32.20 | Azar | Arafangion: I never paid attention to C++ or C#. C is the only language I am looking at |
| 01:32.27 | MarcoPau | I'm trying to install grub but it won't substitute lilo, which is still booting. what should I do? |
| 01:32.42 | Arafangion | Azar: I'm a C99 dude, but I will tell you that the more I learn C++, the more I like it. |
| 01:32.46 | evaded | munga: neptune:/home/david# update-alternatives --set python /usr/bin/python2.4 |
| 01:32.46 | evaded | No alternatives for python. |
| 01:32.50 | munga | evaded: well it seems the wrong way to go according to ths post :) |
| 01:32.56 | iter | MarcoPau: lilo is probably installed in mbr |
| 01:33.10 | Arafangion | evaded: Why not just use the latest version of python? |
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| 01:33.14 | MarcoPau | iter: that's what it is, but grub should have substituted it |
| 01:33.24 | Arafangion | evaded: I ask as a python programmer. |
| 01:33.26 | evaded | Arafangion: And remove the older ones? |
| 01:33.28 | bengrubb | ... |
| 01:33.58 | evaded | Arafangion: I find that there are more items in synaptice for the 2.3 as for the 2.4 :-/ |
| 01:33.59 | Arafangion | evaded: Yes, if the package manager does it automatically, otherwise, I wouldn't, something might be using it explictly. |
| 01:34.24 | Arafangion | evaded: That would be likely because of binary modules - they must be recompiled for 2.4 |
| 01:34.45 | evaded | Arafangion: I have some old stuff and some apps that also run with old versions. |
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| 01:35.03 | liable | MarcoPau: grub-install /dev/hdfoo |
| 01:35.06 | bengrubb | sum1 hacked my webpage and it made me happy |
| 01:35.09 | Arafangion | evaded: What are they? |
| 01:35.20 | bengrubb | and i know it was probably one of u |
| 01:35.22 | serroba | hi |
| 01:35.31 | liable | MarcoPau: or just run 'grub' and do it manually |
| 01:35.33 | serroba | speak spanish??? |
| 01:35.39 | liable | !es |
| 01:35.40 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:35.42 | Arafangion | evaded: It can be problematic, because apps usually assume that it's the latest version of python (I use 2.4, my code does not work on 2.3). |
| 01:35.42 | serroba | ok |
| 01:35.49 | serroba | thanks |
| 01:36.01 | evaded | Arafangion: Some stuff here of the debian repo. Also the 2.2 i had need to install it. I not remember which app with which versions, a bit ... |
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| 01:36.20 | Arafangion | evaded: But you could change the first line of the python apps, changign from #!/usr/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/path/to/specific/version |
| 01:36.36 | Arafangion | evaded: And file a bug. |
| 01:36.52 | evaded | Arafangion: Yes, that i also need to do because it would not start the 2.4 as default |
| 01:37.18 | ciphernaut | fwiw installing latest exp. kernel did not accept yaird as a valid ramdisk creator |
| 01:37.51 | evaded | Arafangion: But there are really less items here in the Stable version. Run you Stable? |
| 01:37.51 | Arafangion | evaded: I am still interested in knowing the name of an example application. |
| 01:38.06 | Arafangion | evaded: I'm actually running Ubuntu Dapper (And NOT happy with it) |
| 01:38.07 | ciphernaut | is that a (dys)function of dpkg? |
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| 01:38.15 | Arafangion | evaded: On my servers, I run Debian Stable. |
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| 01:38.30 | evaded | Arafangion: If you would like i make an dpkg --get-selections > my_apps.txt on pastebin if interested? |
| 01:38.44 | bengrubb | hey everyone how can i check logs of ssh logins? |
| 01:38.47 | Arafangion | evaded: No, just one or two example programs should be enough. |
| 01:39.06 | evaded | bengrubb: /var/log/auth?? |
| 01:39.15 | bengrubb | tar |
| 01:39.22 | Arafangion | evaded: More for my coriosity than anything, I have too much on my plate to fix things atm (Uni stuff) |
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| 01:39.32 | evaded | Arafangion: Yes, i know but i really not remmeber, it's stuf of here in the Stable repo. |
| 01:39.35 | miki2 | hey, when im trying to install packet 'ppp', im getting that libc6 is not configured yet, when im trying to reinstall(and upgrade to newer version) libc6, it also says that its not configured... any hlep? |
| 01:39.54 | Trixy | Hey all, has anyone here ever compiled ndiswrapper who can give me a hand with it, or does anyone know where I can get a .deb of a more recent version of ndiswrapper than 1.1? |
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| 01:40.26 | killown | how to open xterm with user diferent |
| 01:40.27 | killown | ? |
| 01:40.41 | evaded | Arafangion: I love Python and have try many differents stuff/modules/apps. I i need to say that i'm a bit confused because there are really many stuff |
| 01:40.42 | Azar | bengrubb: as root (su) less /var/log/auth.log and if you want to stop dictionary bots ask |
| 01:41.00 | bengrubb | nope nothing in /var/log/auth |
| 01:41.18 | Arafangion | evaded: I assume that there is one particular app you're trying to get to work? |
| 01:41.19 | Azar | bengrubb: try then /var/log/auth.log0 |
| 01:41.31 | Arafangion | evaded: At this present moment in time |
| 01:41.33 | bengrubb | nup |
| 01:41.43 | Azar | bengrubb: then you are not running debian |
| 01:42.03 | tfan | Hi, when I try to install a AMD 64 version of debian, I get the following error during the installation of the base system: Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc - Can anyone help solving this issue? :( |
| 01:42.22 | evaded | Arafangion: At this time, it's for an thing that i write myself. An little tkinter dict application lol |
| 01:42.55 | evaded | Arafangion: And i need to use the subprocess module, but in 2.3 it's not there for example |
| 01:43.10 | bengrubb | im runnin debian |
| 01:43.35 | bengrubb | i do cd /var/log/auth |
| 01:43.49 | Azar | bengrubb: the filename is auth.log |
| 01:43.52 | bengrubb | and i thought u might of ment it was a file so i did nan /var/log/auth |
| 01:43.55 | Arafangion | What modules are you using? |
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| 01:44.22 | evaded | bengrubb: $EDITOR /var/log/auth where $EDITOR is the you''re editior |
| 01:44.26 | bengrubb | yep got it |
| 01:44.37 | pilgrim | How do I find what directory is eclipse installed in? |
| 01:44.49 | evaded | pilgrim: wheris eclips |
| 01:44.56 | evaded | whereis sorry |
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| 01:45.46 | Arafangion | evaded: I'm more of a wxWidgets fan, incidently. |
| 01:45.51 | AnisFarhana | hello again |
| 01:45.59 | evaded | Arafangion: Actually i use the os but i was talking a bit on the #python and some else had say me to play a bit with the 'subprocess' module to see if i find an better way with it |
| 01:46.01 | AnisFarhana | how to apt the php ? apt-get install php ? |
| 01:46.34 | bengrubb | its just i wanna know some one who hacked me and i find it interesting |
| 01:46.39 | Arafangion | evaded: os is still part of python itself, whatever you're expecting in os should be part of 2.4 as well. |
| 01:46.41 | evaded | Arafangion: I'm not an programmer, i like i but... And wx is to close of C and that i know nothing about it |
| 01:46.44 | bengrubb | theres no log of them in maybe they seleted it |
| 01:46.55 | Arafangion | evaded: I found wx more portable. |
| 01:46.56 | bengrubb | they created an ftp account through vhcs |
| 01:47.04 | bengrubb | deleted* |
| 01:47.05 | evaded | Arafangion: Yes, but not the 'subprocess' it's not in the 2.3 |
| 01:47.24 | Arafangion | evaded: You mean, "subprocess" is not in 2.4? |
| 01:47.24 | evaded | Arafangion: Tkinter is quick :-p |
| 01:47.25 | Azar | bengrubb: you could allways check who is in now by typing : netstat -pant or w or last |
| 01:47.34 | evaded | Arafangion: Quick to do, i mean |
| 01:47.40 | Arafangion | evaded: Heh, I should look at it :) |
| 01:47.47 | Arafangion | evaded: I already know wx, so it's quick, to me. |
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| 01:47.54 | bengrubb | anyone know an amele? |
| 01:48.00 | evaded | Arafangion: Really quick for you |
| 01:48.17 | Azar | bengrubb: do you have some speech impediment or you had some extra fun bottles? |
| 01:48.46 | evaded | Arafangion: I have already look many times to that wx but it's to complicate for me. I need already are concentrate enought to the python language |
| 01:48.51 | bengrubb | Azar i live in australia... |
| 01:48.58 | ggeecko | to use bastille do I need X11 |
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| 01:49.02 | Arafangion | evaded: Have you looked at wxGlade? |
| 01:49.08 | evaded | Arafangion: Yes. |
| 01:49.12 | StriderZ | Uhm. Anyone happen to know where devfs is located when compiling the kernel? Somehow I am missing it |
| 01:49.16 | Azar | bengrubb: oi I see |
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| 01:49.27 | Azar | bengrubb: that means you got both |
| 01:49.31 | Arafangion | evaded: I should do more Uni study :) |
| 01:49.32 | evaded | Arafangion: But i not use it, been installed here but... |
| 01:49.41 | bengrubb | they're not hacking at the moment |
| 01:50.05 | evaded | bengrubb: Yes, my keyboard. It's an HHKB |
| 01:50.06 | bengrubb | they hacked an hour ago |
| 01:50.11 | Azar | bengrubb: if I give you something you promise you gonna read? |
| 01:50.21 | bengrubb | is this netstat -pant or w or last |
| 01:50.28 | bengrubb | but, yes ill read |
| 01:50.36 | Azar | bengrubb: there are 3 separate options |
| 01:50.38 | Azar | do : w |
| 01:50.57 | StriderZ | did they drop devfs in 2.6.16.9 or something? |
| 01:50.57 | Azar | bengrubb: then do: last |
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| 01:51.16 | bengrubb | so type netstat -w |
| 01:51.20 | Azar | no |
| 01:51.23 | Azar | just w |
| 01:51.27 | liable | StriderZ: its been deprecated a while, they may well have dropped it |
| 01:51.42 | bengrubb | nothing |
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| 01:51.49 | Azar | ok type: last |
| 01:51.57 | bengrubb | yes |
| 01:51.59 | bengrubb | fair bit |
| 01:52.00 | hf_linux | hello |
| 01:52.07 | Arafangion | evaded: I have an accounting test on wednesday. (**bleh**) |
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| 01:52.25 | Arafangion | evaded: Easy, but BORING, and I can barely get myself to study for it! |
| 01:52.25 | Azar | bengrubb: with "last" command you can see who last logged in |
| 01:52.34 | bengrubb | ok |
| 01:52.49 | evaded | Arafangion: I have leave the school a bit to fast in my case :-/ |
| 01:53.01 | Azar | bengrubb: with nestat -pant you can see who / or what processes are listening or are connected |
| 01:53.03 | bengrubb | cool i see |
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| 01:53.30 | AnisFarhana | how to install mod_php for apache ? |
| 01:53.45 | evaded | bengrubb: Kill these kiddies, probably it are not hackers! |
| 01:54.04 | hf_linux | where can i get the command make-jpkg ? I get "fakeroot make-jpkg /path/to/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin,make-jpkg command not found" |
| 01:54.18 | Supaplex | !tell AnisFarhana -about search |
| 01:54.18 | bengrubb | it doesnt show their ip but shows they logged in |
| 01:54.19 | bengrubb | amele@th ftpd8976 vhcs.local Sat Apr 22 21:12 - 21:12 (00:00) |
| 01:54.20 | Arafangion | evaded: Alot of the path a person takes does depend on where they live and their parents careers, imho. |
| 01:54.33 | liable | hf_linux: java-package |
| 01:54.37 | Azar | bengrubb: ok you can now read this: http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts |
| 01:54.39 | Arafangion | evaded: And my parents both went to uni. |
| 01:54.53 | evaded | Arafangion: Yes, i know, and the money money money |
| 01:54.56 | hf_linux | thank you |
| 01:55.04 | Azar | bengrubb: "they" will never use their own PC, "they" are bots |
| 01:55.39 | bengrubb | i c |
| 01:55.40 | liable | bengrubb: you run an insecure service and wonder why you get hacked? |
| 01:55.44 | bengrubb | ive herd of denyhost |
| 01:55.59 | Azar | prolly your PC now belongs to "them" and is one bot among other thousands |
| 01:56.02 | StriderZ | well damn... |
| 01:56.11 | bengrubb | yes i know im insecure i wanted to see if i got hacked lol |
| 01:56.11 | StriderZ | I don't understand why my root fs isn't mounting |
| 01:56.20 | Arafangion | evaded: I'm torn between stating that the government should put more money into education, or government unions. |
| 01:56.20 | evaded | bengrubb: I have some else an script that i think you need for ssh protection. If to many try block ip... |
| 01:56.22 | bengrubb | its always interesting |
| 01:56.43 | bengrubb | so its like they run all possible passwords like a brute force |
| 01:56.48 | StriderZ | bbiab...gonna play with grub |
| 01:56.50 | evaded | Arafangion: Everybody need an try |
| 01:56.51 | Azar | bengrubb: remove telnet, and change ssh port from 22 to one public ports of your choice |
| 01:56.54 | liable | bengrubb: thanks, i am probably recieving spam from your box as we speak. |
| 01:56.55 | evaded | Arafangion: But ... |
| 01:57.06 | Azar | liable: haha |
| 01:57.24 | bengrubb | nah.. its off |
| 01:57.39 | Azar | buh-bah, I hate having a mail client on my PC, I use webmail |
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| 01:58.12 | Arafangion | evaded: I have a friend who is 80k in debt because he's putting himself through uni. |
| 01:58.17 | evaded | Arafangion: I'm a boy of 25 without any certifications. Speaking a bit English, Dutch and French and love computer. But i not find an nice job that i like to _survive_ with it. So i have no job, no money and big shit |
| 01:58.18 | Arafangion | evaded: I think that's rediculous. |
| 01:59.01 | Azar | evaded: secure job: accounting=comfy, paid ok, no big effort |
| 01:59.07 | Arafangion | evaded: You haven't considered a traineeship? |
| 01:59.09 | evaded | Arafangion: I have not done my /middle/ shool |
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| 01:59.25 | Azar | Arafangion: well I have to eat , right? |
| 01:59.40 | Arafangion | evaded: Ok, that makes it difficult in today's economy, true. |
| 01:59.50 | Azar | Arafangion: more than that, I can affort to pitch in for a good cause sometimes... like OS |
| 01:59.54 | Arafangion | Azar: How low can you go? |
| 02:00.00 | Arafangion | Low Blow! |
| 02:00.34 | Azar | Arafangion: well... can I tell you I like it too? |
| 02:00.43 | Arafangion | Azar: To be honest, it's mainly that I have a test on accounting on wednesday that I'm so against it atm. |
| 02:00.44 | evaded | Arafangion: A bit PHP/Mysql, WinSHIT_123 work/servers http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/test/test_website/guicms/ |
| 02:00.56 | Arafangion | Azar: There's 300 students in the class alone! |
| 02:01.03 | Arafangion | Azar: 20 engineers in the entire uni. |
| 02:01.13 | Azar | Arafangion: building spreadsheets is fun plus you can snub others who can't |
| 02:01.41 | Azar | Arafangion: I have new colleagues who come , look around, cant figure out a macro and quit |
| 02:01.49 | Azar | ... from the uni |
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| 02:01.56 | evaded | Arafangion: But always big boss not want my because i have no one certification and have not any _supernova_ knowledges, i'm to dumb |
| 02:02.03 | AnisFarhana | sigh |
| 02:02.10 | AnisFarhana | what is mod php on debian ? can i apt-get it ? |
| 02:02.13 | Arafangion | Azar: "Building spreadsheets is fun"? I could write a financial program capable of doing everything taught in the course if I wanted to. |
| 02:02.26 | Arafangion | AnisFarhana: apt-cache search mod_php | |
| 02:02.29 | Arafangion | AnisFarhana: apt-cache search mod_php | less |
| 02:02.57 | Azar | Arafangion: sigh.. I guess my head does not help me past that |
| 02:03.13 | AnisFarhana | Arafangion: just blank and black |
| 02:03.14 | Arafangion | evaded: I am frustrated with that myself. I consider myself an excellent coder, I can code in any of 8 languages fluently (and learning others), yet because I haven't graduated, I can't find a job. |
| 02:03.46 | Arafangion | AnisFarhana: Try apt-cache search php |
| 02:03.50 | Azar | Arafangion: because jobs are for those who learn crap math in HS only |
| 02:03.51 | Arafangion | AnisFarhana: And grep for apache |
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| 02:03.59 | liable | libapache-mod-php4 |
| 02:04.03 | evaded | Arafangion: People need to be are an *king* to find an job :-/ |
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| 02:04.11 | Arafangion | Azar: I did so much math in HS that I didn't learn much at uni. |
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| 02:04.27 | Azar | Arafangion: then you are not from US |
| 02:04.36 | AnisFarhana | Arafangion: i have apache and php4 installed |
| 02:04.54 | Azar | Arafangion: I was refering at decimals vs binary |
| 02:05.14 | Azar | binary is what we should have learned in HS |
| 02:05.20 | Arafangion | evaded: It's a simple fact of economics, we have so many darn people interested in computers and wanting a job in it, and bosses do not know how to distingiush between the good ones and the crap ones, and those who somehow made it through uni but have trouble with the "For loop construct" |
| 02:05.36 | bengrubb | Azar: why do you know it was an ssh attack and not something else |
| 02:05.50 | Arafangion | Azar: I did arbituary bases, and complex numbers. No, I'm not form the US, (Australia, NSW). |
| 02:05.52 | Azar | plus, if Id be a coder Id hate to work for a corporation and have them tell me how to code |
| 02:06.13 | Arafangion | AnisFarhana: I don't actually run apache much. Try looking in /etc/apache and see if it even comes with it |
| 02:06.14 | Azar | bengrubb: because the bots usually go trying to force login thru ssh |
| 02:06.18 | boelloesch | hi |
| 02:06.18 | evaded | Arafangion: Yes, that's right. But what to do? That's the question. |
| 02:06.26 | miki2 | hey, when im trying to install packet 'ppp', im getting that libc6 is not configured yet, when im trying to reinstall(and upgrade to newer version) libc6, it also says that its not configured... any hlep? |
| 02:06.45 | bengrubb | Azar so therese bots guess passwords i suppose? |
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| 02:06.47 | evaded | bengrubb: I have forget you, i look now for you |
| 02:06.53 | bronze | Arafangion: many businesses give programming exams to applicants to weed out lesser talenst |
| 02:07.00 | Azar | bengrubb: the doors for login usually are: telnet, fpt and ssh |
| 02:07.02 | Arafangion | evaded: Personally, (because I'm not in your spot, it's probably easier for me to say it, doing it is another thing), I'd make computers your hobby, or volunteer work in it, and do other work. |
| 02:07.05 | Azar | err ftp |
| 02:07.17 | Arafangion | bronze: Ahh yes, syntax 101. |
| 02:07.34 | bengrubb | well telnet wasnt open but ssh aand ftp were |
| 02:07.46 | bengrubb | and also an adon vhcs so php attacks |
| 02:07.46 | Azar | bengrubb: yes password dictionary bots they try all the alphabet you seen that |
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| 02:08.01 | Azar | bengrubb: apt-get remove telnet please |
| 02:08.11 | bengrubb | telnet port isnt open |
| 02:08.16 | bengrubb | its blocked |
| 02:08.18 | shiki | it seems when i was installing net-installing debian i miss configured something that makes interferance between the internet explorer and doesnt letme download can anyone asisst me here? |
| 02:08.19 | boelloesch | hi - im using linux - ubuntu - i have really no ide about - am i right here? |
| 02:08.20 | Azar | bengrubb: just remove it |
| 02:08.21 | bronze | Arafangion: And some challenging logic. iT can help you filter people out, a little |
| 02:08.34 | bengrubb | its nice i can use it locally |
| 02:08.41 | Arafangion | shiki: What's internet explorer? |
| 02:08.41 | bronze | Arafangion: Whats keeping you from graduating, just putting the time in? |
| 02:08.42 | Azar | boelloesch: #ubuntu channel |
| 02:08.48 | evaded | Arafangion: It's 7 years ago when i had begin with my first computer curse and where it really began, a bit to late to change now |
| 02:08.52 | Arafangion | bronze: Basically, and crap lecturers. |
| 02:09.10 | bengrubb | port 23 is blocked on the router |
| 02:09.10 | bronze | so you need to finish some courses? |
| 02:09.24 | shiki | Arafangion: any internet exlporer, konqueror, mozilla, etc. if some of them tries to download i get an error message that hey could not conect to host |
| 02:09.27 | Arafangion | bronze: Recently I lost 3/20 marks because half the page in one of 20 documents had the wrong *font size*. |
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| 02:09.34 | Arafangion | shiki: Got a proxy? |
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| 02:09.34 | Azar | bah ssh is replacing the telnet, you don't need it |
| 02:09.38 | Arafangion | shiki: Configure it. |
| 02:09.41 | Stevie | ssh rules |
| 02:09.46 | bengrubb | true |
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| 02:09.52 | bronze | Arafangion: for a computer course? |
| 02:10.01 | shiki | Arafangion: it is not a proxy ;P is direct access to internet |
| 02:10.02 | Azar | bengrubb: why keeping an old oudated crap like telnet? remove it |
| 02:10.09 | Arafangion | bronze: Yes. Otherwise, yes, I just have to put the time in. I should graduate next year. |
| 02:10.11 | htrp | how do you sort by user with htop? |
| 02:10.19 | bengrubb | well i removed it just 4 u |
| 02:10.39 | Azar | :) your such a sweet aussie pecker bengrubb |
| 02:10.43 | Stevie | mv /bin/telnet /bin/ssh # ;-) |
| 02:10.50 | bengrubb | har har |
| 02:11.04 | bengrubb | ... |
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| 02:11.17 | bengrubb | that just moves all the files to ssh |
| 02:11.17 | Azar | bengrubb: go read that link I gave you is mighty fun |
| 02:11.26 | Arafangion | Azar: You have a more fundamental network problem. |
| 02:11.26 | bronze | A wise old teacher once said to me that "colege is a ritual Dance. Once you complete the ritual you are given a sheet of parchment that indicates you have completed the ritual. Then businesses will look for your services. 'Do the Dance, get the Parchment.'" |
| 02:11.26 | bengrubb | i was reading it |
| 02:11.42 | Azar | Arafangion: I guess so, why? |
| 02:11.47 | Arafangion | bronze: Do you have a source? I agree with that entirely. |
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| 02:11.58 | Arafangion | bronze: I must admit, I am considering a research career. |
| 02:12.12 | Arafangion | Azar: That was for shiki |
| 02:12.13 | bronze | The source was my neighbor who taught agriculture at the high school in my home town. |
| 02:12.22 | Arafangion | Azar: I guess it was ambigious :) |
| 02:12.27 | Azar | Arafangion: you know what would be my dream job? proofreading C code |
| 02:12.44 | Arafangion | Azar: Ugh. |
| 02:12.51 | Arafangion | Azar: Only one thing could be worse. |
| 02:13.01 | Arafangion | Azar: Proofreading GWBasic. |
| 02:13.03 | Azar | Arafangion: that would make a great job: 1. nobody likes it; 2. pays good $$ |
| 02:13.13 | Arafangion | Azar: Testers actually get paid less. |
| 02:13.37 | Azar | nooo no tester, proofreader, cleaning up messy code |
| 02:13.43 | shiki | Arafangion: well everything just works fine except for http downlaod >.< it must be a missconfiguration or a firewall blocking acces but since i dont have a firewall ;P |
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| 02:13.46 | bengrubb | yer i agree with you all i should have install deny hosts before putting server live |
| 02:14.00 | chillvnc | getting error - debconf: Config database not specified in config file. Does anyone have any ideas ? |
| 02:14.08 | Arafangion | Azar: The only reason why you'd get that position woudl be because it was cheaper for administration to do that, rather than to get an actual programmer in. |
| 02:14.10 | bengrubb | hackers have the motive of "getting in" |
| 02:14.24 | shiki | i know that it got to mess with the "aprotman" or somthing like that, it warned me aboout something from the internet but since i didnt know what i was doing i selected defaults xP |
| 02:14.24 | Arafangion | Azar: Otherwise, they'd get a programmer in, give them 80k/year, or more. |
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| 02:14.35 | Azar | Arafangion: I could dare to compare with mortuary home job: who likes to wash cadavers? yet it makes good $$ |
| 02:14.40 | chillvnc | I have replaced debconf.conf with a new one from the package. and still having issues |
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| 02:15.12 | hellangel | hi guys =) |
| 02:15.26 | Azar | Arafangion: you surely know how messy some people code. Having a proofreader to clean it up is hard to find: nobody wants to do that job |
| 02:15.28 | evaded | Arafangion: I have already work some 6 years in the computers world in support i need a bit to recycle me and now it's some time i search in the PHP developments support. I hope i find there an little job |
| 02:15.36 | hellangel | i have a little problem... i got a radeon x800xt.. but the ati drivers wont work at all (no screen) and vesa doesnt work right and destroys my console :/ |
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| 02:16.43 | evaded | bengrubb: I not find that script again, i look again, but i think you need somethings that verify every x time you're log and evantually block an ip that have do to many try's. I had find it on the net |
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| 02:16.47 | Azar | Arafangion: for a good time: http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmain.html |
| 02:17.11 | Arafangion | evaded: Well, what my friend is doign in that area is (keep in mind he is also getting a software engineering career) is that he is buidling a portfolio of quite impressive websites. |
| 02:17.15 | bengrubb | yer deny h9osts does it |
| 02:17.16 | Arafangion | evaded: That he has made. |
| 02:17.19 | teledyn | hellangel: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:17.33 | Azar | bengrubb: have fun then |
| 02:17.42 | evaded | Arafangion: Have you look a bit to the link i had pasted? |
| 02:17.48 | Arafangion | evaded: No. |
| 02:17.53 | Azar | :) |
| 02:17.56 | hellangel | teledyn, and then? |
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| 02:18.30 | Arafangion | evaded: I missed it. |
| 02:18.40 | teledyn | hellangel: /var/log/XFree86.log |
| 02:18.40 | bengrubb | have fun where? |
| 02:18.42 | evaded | Arafangion: It's http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/test/test_website/guicms/ |
| 02:18.54 | Arafangion | Azar: Let me find a line of code I actually wrote. |
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| 02:19.15 | evaded | Arafangion: Not be spectacular but it's an begin, i want to make it in an open source project if it come a bit good |
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| 02:20.25 | miki2 | how can i configure package 'libc6' ? |
| 02:20.44 | Arafangion | evaded: Doesn't hurt to volunteer to manage the websites for an existing (small) organization. You know several languages right? Why not provide translations. |
| 02:20.45 | hellangel | teledyn, empty |
| 02:20.48 | Arafangion | evaded: Show what you can do. |
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| 02:21.18 | Arafangion | evaded: And I would highly, highly recommend you use css. |
| 02:21.37 | evaded | Arafangion: Im to dump for translations and to less background of some things |
| 02:21.46 | minerale | I just changed the xorg.conf on a lived, how do I restart the x server? when i ..init.rc/gdm restart I get fail |
| 02:21.51 | evaded | Arafangion: I use there css! completely |
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| 02:22.21 | Azar | Arafangion: I am just a beginner at C... not much time to study.. |
| 02:22.31 | Arafangion | evaded: Some :) |
| 02:22.39 | Arafangion | Azar: for(n=sensor+1,map=0,ln2=0;n!=0;sensors[ln2+map-1]+=numArrivals,map+=ln2,n-=ln2)for(tn=n,ln2=1;!(tn==1);tn/=2,ln2*=2); |
| 02:22.43 | evaded | Arafangion: I know, the next features is that the cms need to be have multiple layout. I want to redising completely the site an use a bit Gimp |
| 02:23.15 | evaded | Arafangion: Where see you not css? 2 or 3 things max |
| 02:23.16 | Arafangion | Azar: That concludes the entire body of that function. |
| 02:23.50 | Azar | Arafangion: that does not look like nothing I am learning |
| 02:23.54 | Azar | :) beginner |
| 02:24.06 | Arafangion | evaded: Actually, now that i look carefully, quite a bit of it is in css. I was mistaken the <td width=....> as for not being css. |
| 02:24.13 | evaded | Arafangion: I not understand why you say that i need to use css when it's already completely in css :-/ |
| 02:24.17 | Arafangion | evaded: But that appears to be the only non-css code! |
| 02:24.30 | Arafangion | evaded: Looks quite good,a ctually. |
| 02:25.12 | teledyn | hellangel: if there's no x log something is severely wrong |
| 02:25.14 | evaded | Arafangion: 2 or 3 things max. The cms version that you see ther is 4 versions old. Some little featurers and layout better now |
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| 02:25.59 | hellangel | teledyn, hmmm |
| 02:26.03 | Arafangion | Azar: The context of that line is "There are a number of turtles walking across some sensors", and that line puts the turtle in an array such that finding the number of turtles between any two sensors can be found in NLogN time. |
| 02:26.12 | xixor | hey everyone, question about autotools, I have two sid development machines. One has been around for a while, the other one I just installed. Both have the same version of autoconf, automake, libtool, g++ and aclocal but on the new one the build environment doesn't work: the configure script generated by autotools fails to run because of a config.sub link problem. Just wondering if anyone knows which other packages I need to install on the new dev machine |
| 02:26.25 | Arafangion | Azar: I'm pretty sure it was NLogN, that code is 3 years old. |
| 02:26.39 | evaded | Arafangion: I clean the code a bit because i had not write an 'cahier des charges' before i had begin, I have begin to make that cms be first running vim without more, then i have begin to write the code without taking some ideas on paper. |
| 02:26.41 | Arafangion | Azar: Also note that each variable is used no less than twice :) |
| 02:26.50 | hellangel | teledyn, so what could it be? any clue? |
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| 02:27.01 | Arafangion | evaded: Nothing wrong with using paper. I still do. |
| 02:27.21 | Arafangion | evaded: You need a wider portfolio, in different styles, and then you need to figure out how to "sell" yourself. |
| 02:27.23 | teledyn | hellangel: look for the log in /var/log. i'm not sure of the exact name |
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| 02:27.41 | evaded | Arafangion: I know :-/ But it's was on an day that i was thinking to write a bit code of it and not to on the papper. |
| 02:27.56 | Azar | Arafangion: char first[25] = "Azar"; char last[25] = "Tyhon"; strcat(fist, last); printf("I am %s\n", fist); |
| 02:28.13 | Azar | err : fist0; |
| 02:28.17 | Arafangion | evaded: The market you are in probably expects you to maintain the website as well, which you should do for a fee. |
| 02:28.21 | evaded | Arafangion: Yes, i'm been working on the /styles/ i want multiples layouts an it must be _look_ right |
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| 02:28.22 | hellangel | Free86.0.log - XFree86.1.log |
| 02:28.23 | Arafangion | Azar: Bug! |
| 02:28.30 | hellangel | XFree86.0.log.old |
| 02:28.32 | Azar | Arafangion: yes bleh typo |
| 02:28.45 | teledyn | hellangel: how are you trying to start x? |
| 02:28.53 | hellangel | i am in x |
| 02:29.01 | Azar | Arafangion: haven't started yet with integers... |
| 02:29.02 | evaded | Arafangion: No matters, if i have an job ;-) |
| 02:29.09 | Arafangion | Azar: Personally, badly written code is fine if adequately abstracted and tested. |
| 02:29.29 | hellangel | but it doesnt work correctly... as soon as i switch to console it gets strangly zoomed to the upper left corner... and when i switch back to X then, i have like 256 colors :< |
| 02:29.31 | teledyn | hellangel: i thought you said the ati driver doens't work |
| 02:29.43 | hellangel | ati doesnt work.. and vesa works .. well.. like i said |
| 02:30.24 | evaded | Arafangion: That cms there are on my main computer. Some times i sync the data when i want. But i wait a bit now that i look really better before i need to fix some things before and then ... ;-) If i see you again here in less time i show you |
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| 02:30.41 | Arafangion | evaded: btw, do you use a version control system? |
| 02:30.46 | Azar | hellangel: maybe is your monitor, or you did not reconfigured resolutions correctly 24 colors |
| 02:30.50 | teledyn | hellangel: without console vesafb this problem doesn't happen? |
| 02:30.52 | _jason | 'apropos xorg.conf' returns ``xorg.conf (5x)'', how do I access that man page? |
| 02:31.11 | teledyn | _jason: man 5 xorg.conf |
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| 02:31.31 | evaded | Arafangion: I know about cvs and Subversion, but for that project i have already say you, i have begin with be opening vim that i was thinking to write somethings without some goals |
| 02:31.46 | _jason | teledyn: ``No manual entry for xorg.conf in section 5'' could apropos return that result even though i don't have the man page? |
| 02:32.11 | Arafangion | evaded: I like subversion, but even manual version control is fine, so long as you do it. |
| 02:32.14 | evaded | Arafangion: For that project i not use an version control system :-/ I know i'm to crazy. i use it for some little python projects |
| 02:32.19 | hellangel | teledyn, well when x doesnt start (when i tried ati) then the console is ok.. but as soon as i get into x and then switch to console it gets zoomed |
| 02:32.39 | Arafangion | evaded: Manual version control does nto scale, but for just one developer, it's fine. |
| 02:32.40 | teledyn | _jason: cd /usr/share/man; find ./ -name xorg.conf* |
| 02:32.44 | hellangel | Please enter the video card's bus identifier. -> is that important? |
| 02:32.50 | evaded | Arafangion: Idem, also prefer Subversion for more large projects. If it's for some files, it's better cvs i find |
| 02:32.55 | teledyn | hellangel: leave it blank |
| 02:33.01 | teledyn | hellangel: it should autodetect |
| 02:33.05 | hellangel | k |
| 02:33.16 | _jason | teledyn: nothing |
| 02:33.38 | hellangel | Azar, everything configured correctly :| |
| 02:33.55 | Azar | hellangel: ati and xorg are unknown to me.... never used such |
| 02:34.14 | evaded | Arafangion: I hope in max 3 week to be have an really good result. I need to work a bit on that identification that are a bit bad |
| 02:34.17 | hellangel | Azar, what kind of GUI are you using? |
| 02:34.24 | teledyn | _jason: odd. i'm not sure what the x is after 5 usually its just a number. i can't find that man page on my system either |
| 02:34.33 | Azar | hellangel: just plain X with openbox3 manager |
| 02:34.45 | hellangel | Azar, "plain X" ? |
| 02:34.58 | Azar | hellangel: no kde or gnome.. nothing of this sort |
| 02:34.59 | htrp | 2006-04-22 22:32:16,002 ERROR: Unable to get stat on /var/log/secure |
| 02:34.59 | htrp | 2006-04-22 22:32:17,002 ERROR: Unable to get stat on /var/log/secure |
| 02:35.01 | htrp | what is this? |
| 02:35.07 | _jason | teledyn: ok, thought it might just be some special syntax involved with the x. Thanks, I'll search around for what package should provide the man page |
| 02:35.07 | htrp | im trying to run fail2ban |
| 02:35.14 | evaded | hellangel: It's important when you have multiple video cards |
| 02:35.15 | Arafangion | evaded: I tend to use a single svn server, that hosts multiple projects. |
| 02:35.16 | hellangel | Azar, maybe thats somethin to solve my problem, what you say? |
| 02:35.23 | Azar | thewhite: fail2ban did not work for me try denyhosts better |
| 02:35.25 | hellangel | evaded, i only got 1 (if you mean that |
| 02:35.33 | Arafangion | evaded: Thus, even for small files, I prefer svn, as it allows one to move and rename files and folders. |
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| 02:35.38 | htrp | Azar: is that for me? |
| 02:35.39 | Arafangion | evaded: Plus, you have cheap copying. |
| 02:35.41 | evaded | Arafangion: I have many /test/ things. |
| 02:35.41 | htrp | was* |
| 02:35.48 | teledyn | _jason: there's also apt-file for searching... |
| 02:35.51 | pilgrim | I have chrooted apache2 with makejail command. What happens if there is a apache2 security update. Is it going to be hard to update the jailed apache2? |
| 02:35.53 | evaded | Arafangion: Most code of others :-/ |
| 02:36.05 | Azar | htrp: http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts |
| 02:36.16 | Arafangion | evaded: btw, what's your favorite language? |
| 02:36.25 | Arafangion | evaded: I mean,w hat's your *native tongue*? |
| 02:36.40 | evaded | Arafangion: Php a bit now but really it's python |
| 02:36.49 | evaded | Arafangion: HHmm |
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| 02:36.57 | evaded | Arafangion: Dutch and Frech |
| 02:37.03 | evaded | French |
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| 02:37.18 | _jason | teledyn: apt-file doesn't seem to find it |
| 02:37.42 | evaded | Arafangion: I'm bad in english :-/ |
| 02:37.44 | bengrubb | grr i followed the instructions now i get |
| 02:37.45 | bengrubb | /var/log/denyhosts: Permission denied |
| 02:37.50 | Arafangion | evaded: And where do you live atm? |
| 02:37.58 | bengrubb | time fopr chmod ? or will that just screw it |
| 02:37.59 | Azar | bengrubb: only root has access |
| 02:38.00 | bengrubb | for* |
| 02:38.01 | evaded | Arafangion: Belgium around Brussels |
| 02:38.10 | hellangel | bengrubb, su |
| 02:38.13 | Arafangion | evaded: You cant' translate to french? |
| 02:38.23 | evaded | Arafangion: It's again 4:39 AM here |
| 02:38.28 | Arafangion | evaded: Translators are relatively hard to find. |
| 02:38.30 | Azar | bengrubb: you can act as root by typing : su then the root password |
| 02:38.39 | flyingfox | hi, just installed debian testing cd 1 on laptop. But Xorg x server could not start. have done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and done many changes but still x server could not start. thks |
| 02:38.39 | evaded | Arafangion: I'm to dump for that an write to many faults :-/ |
| 02:38.57 | bengrubb | superuser hay |
| 02:39.14 | teledyn | _jason: well, there was just the major upgrade. maybe its not in the archive yet |
| 02:39.17 | htrp | Azar: is it safe to run that on sarge? |
| 02:39.21 | bengrubb | i get (sorry flood) |
| 02:39.23 | bengrubb | vhcs:~# su |
| 02:39.23 | evaded | Arafangion: I need more computer related like before. Support/a_bit_devellopements ... |
| 02:39.23 | bengrubb | vhcs:~# /var/log/denyhosts |
| 02:39.23 | bengrubb | bash: /var/log/denyhosts: Permission denied |
| 02:39.23 | bengrubb | vhcs:~# |
| 02:39.25 | Azar | flyingfox: you have to first make sure you have a 2.6.x kernel, then configure your video module, then do X configuration |
| 02:39.38 | pilgrim | Anyone know how to use jailtool? |
| 02:39.40 | htrp | bengrubb: sudo |
| 02:39.40 | _jason | teledyn: k, I'll just read it from google while I wait. Thanks for your help |
| 02:40.01 | flyingfox | Azar> am using 2.6.kernel, how do i config video module? |
| 02:40.02 | evaded | bengrubb: Use an editor to open that file! |
| 02:40.19 | Azar | htrp: yes, is very good read carefully apply configurations and if you are not running a server you can even change the ssh port from 22 to another one |
| 02:40.20 | bengrubb | no work |
| 02:40.22 | evaded | bengrubb: Use you an editor? |
| 02:40.37 | bengrubb | i went nano /var/log/denyhosts |
| 02:40.39 | bengrubb | no workies |
| 02:40.41 | bengrubb | blank |
| 02:40.46 | Azar | flyingfox: I am amazed that udev did not automatically configured your video |
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| 02:40.54 | bengrubb | hmm its working now |
| 02:40.56 | bengrubb | strange.. |
| 02:41.13 | evaded | bengrubb: That log not exist lol ;-) |
| 02:41.14 | flyingfox | Azar> it did an auto config but x server could not start. just flickers a while |
| 02:41.21 | bengrubb | heh |
| 02:41.25 | evaded | bengrubb: I have look a bit here an nothings also |
| 02:41.28 | flyingfox | error message is : fixed fonts problem |
| 02:41.42 | Azar | flyingfox: I am not aware of xorg, never tried it, for me xfree86 goes ok so far |
| 02:42.02 | flyingfox | Azar: problem is only sarge comes with xfree86 |
| 02:42.08 | Azar | xorg fans here might help you |
| 02:42.15 | evaded | bengrubb: Why you want to go to there? |
| 02:42.17 | Arafangion | Meh, the enamal on my pen is chipping away :( |
| 02:42.25 | bengrubb | its ok now |
| 02:42.27 | flyingfox | Azar: testing binary 1 is preloaded with Xorg |
| 02:42.29 | evaded | bengrubb: I have not been folowed the discussion |
| 02:42.32 | Azar | flyingfox: I used sarge, then upgraded to etch. I still use xfree86 |
| 02:42.46 | evaded | bengrubb: What was the path then? |
| 02:42.51 | flyingfox | azar: i did a new install of etch |
| 02:43.00 | bengrubb | deny hosts |
| 02:43.10 | Azar | flyingfox: I believe you: you might to have to work a bit harder at it |
| 02:43.35 | bengrubb | plus im checking summin else as well im a n00b and fidlling around |
| 02:43.36 | Azar | flyingfox: also you could file a bug with that installer.. |
| 02:43.43 | flyingfox | azar: debian is replacing xfree86 with xorg in etch n sid and wll do so in sarge |
| 02:43.55 | flyingfox | ok |
| 02:44.10 | Azar | flyingfox: sad, well I will still be using wargetch |
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| 02:44.21 | Azar | wargetch: woody-sarge-etch |
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| 02:44.46 | flyingfox | x free86 works ok with my laptop |
| 02:44.51 | flyingfox | in sarge |
| 02:45.06 | bengrubb | anyone know how many times a failed login with deny hosts uses to block ip's? |
| 02:45.09 | Azar | I am not aware that sarge to come with xorg |
| 02:45.13 | bengrubb | by default* |
| 02:45.19 | pilgrim | I just did "apt-get install jailtool". How do I find some information about that package. Like version and such? |
| 02:45.44 | Azar | bengrubb: read that howto link again, pay attention at configuration files |
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| 02:45.49 | flyingfox | Azar: not now but will in future as Debian is replacing Xfee86 with Xorg |
| 02:45.55 | evaded | Arafangion: I have learn many thinks about installing/support M$ workstation/servers in some courses some years ago. I have switch some time now to GNU/Linux and hope i can find an job in company that use GNU/Linux etc. |
| 02:46.01 | ni_ | dpkg -l jailtool or apt-cache show jailtool |
| 02:46.02 | dpkg | ii jailtool or apt-cache show jailtool 1.3-3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 02:46.04 | bengrubb | yer i am but i just wanted to ask if anyone knew quickly outta there head |
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| 02:46.16 | ni_ | whoops, sorry |
| 02:46.17 | Azar | flyingfox: that's nice, but nice too is that I can keep my favorite old packages |
| 02:46.33 | flyingfox | yups |
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| 02:46.39 | evaded | Arafangion: I really not look to do somethings others. In the bad est way, give again support to M$! |
| 02:46.42 | Azar | bengrubb: awwww don't be lazy you get to know better than anyone if you read |
| 02:46.58 | aaryal | anyone know how i can give a regular user CAP_NET_ADMIN privs? or any of the other CAP_* privs for that matter... |
| 02:47.02 | flyingfox | Azar: u should read on the reason for the change. Xfree86 has licensing problems |
| 02:47.15 | bengrubb | heh |
| 02:47.22 | Azar | flyingfox: I see.. hmm not nice.. not nice |
| 02:47.23 | bengrubb | Azar yes, yes i do |
| 02:47.48 | evaded | Arafangion: But that i not want so, it's why i try to recycle me a bit again in an sub thing of comp. I have set python now an 1 year or so on the side, i need to get it again active |
| 02:47.49 | Azar | bengrubb: and also, if you read and learn, you can help me with it when I forget it |
| 02:47.50 | pilgrim | ni_ thanks. |
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| 02:47.54 | pilgrim | dpkg, thanks |
| 02:47.55 | dpkg | pilgrim: de nada |
| 02:47.55 | bengrubb | lol |
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| 02:48.32 | argent | how do i configure my soundcard? |
| 02:48.39 | Azar | argent: with alsa |
| 02:49.02 | evaded | argent: look to '/msg dpkg alsa-checklist' |
| 02:49.04 | Azar | !alsa |
| 02:49.04 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist> |
| 02:49.19 | argent | Azar: thanks |
| 02:49.29 | flyingfox | hi, done installation on debian etch on Xorg, problem is x server could not start. saying on 'Fixed font problems. thanks. am using laptop with ati card |
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| 02:49.48 | evaded | !tell argent about alsa-checklist |
| 02:50.04 | evaded | flyingfox: Missing fonts! |
| 02:50.34 | seek1 | how do i get install remove programs |
| 02:50.35 | nichos | is there a way to get fetchmail to remove mail after X days from the server? or an alternate program? |
| 02:50.56 | evaded | seek1: Take the Debian reference man ;-) |
| 02:51.02 | flyingfox | evaded> could you pls explain more |
| 02:51.03 | argent | evaded: thanks |
| 02:51.06 | nichos | Results 1 - 10 of about 988,000,000 for quickly |
| 02:51.18 | evaded | seek1: '/msg dpkg ref' |
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| 02:51.35 | evaded | flyingfox: Probably you have not the xfonts installed |
| 02:51.46 | junix | is there something wrong with the Headers files of 2.6.16 to not allow VMWARe tom compile? |
| 02:51.51 | evaded | flyingfox: I go to look for the package name of it |
| 02:51.58 | flyingfox | evaded> thanks |
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| 02:52.55 | teledyn | junix: what version of vmware? i know prior to the most recent release there were issues |
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| 02:53.20 | junix | teledyn: latest public build |
| 02:53.43 | teledyn | junix: i've compiled it fine on .16 |
| 02:53.55 | evaded | flyingfox: It's the packages 'xfonts-base'. Try to look if it's already installed |
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| 02:54.33 | flyingfox | evaded> thanks |
| 02:54.35 | junix | teledyn: i keep getting this:The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.16-1/include" is a kernel header file |
| 02:54.35 | junix | directory, but it does not contain the file "linux/version.h" as expected. This |
| 02:54.35 | junix | can happen if the kernel has never been built, or if you have invoked the "make |
| 02:54.35 | junix | mrproper" command in your kernel directory. In any case, you may want to |
| 02:54.35 | junix | rebuild your kernel. |
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| 02:54.50 | evaded | flyingfox: You can also try to play a bit to search you're packages 'apt-cache search xfonts' for example |
| 02:54.59 | bengrubb | w00t deny host works yay |
| 02:55.08 | teledyn | junix: and? |
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| 02:55.27 | junix | its keeps asking me for the dir of the header files |
| 02:55.37 | evaded | flyingfox: Let it know the status |
| 02:55.40 | teledyn | junix: and? |
| 02:55.47 | flyingfox | evaded> thanks |
| 02:56.06 | evaded | flyingfox: I means say somethings if it's done and solved ;-) |
| 02:56.11 | junix | i enter in /usr/src/linux-2.6.16-1-686/include |
| 02:56.14 | magyar | is there a way to "snoop" on what is a user doing on console? |
| 02:56.15 | junix | it tellls me no |
| 02:56.17 | junix | so i neter |
| 02:56.17 | junix | ] |
| 02:56.26 | teledyn | junix: did you read the output? |
| 02:56.31 | junix | yes |
| 02:56.33 | junix | i typed it wrong |
| 02:56.44 | flyingfox | evaded> sure, am working on it now |
| 02:56.50 | junix | but i enter it correctly |
| 02:56.51 | htrp | Azar: got it installed :) |
| 02:56.52 | htrp | thanks |
| 02:57.03 | teledyn | junix: based on the message, what do you think you should do? |
| 02:57.09 | junix | i don't know |
| 02:57.15 | bengrubb | im gunna find this hacker |
| 02:57.17 | teledyn | carefully read what it says |
| 02:57.22 | bengrubb | i got theyre dns record |
| 02:57.22 | junix | i enter 2 different headers folders and nothing works |
| 02:57.23 | bengrubb | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=vurgunonline.net%2F |
| 02:57.23 | evaded | flyingfox: Good ;-) |
| 02:57.34 | teledyn | junix: what type of error is it, first of all? |
| 02:57.35 | junix | teledyn: i'm typing it in correctly |
| 02:57.45 | bengrubb | im gunne ring them |
| 02:57.49 | bengrubb | ring the hacker!! |
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| 02:57.55 | bengrubb | cool |
| 02:57.56 | bengrubb | +90.2324891444 |
| 02:58.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 767] by debhelper |
| 02:58.08 | bengrubb | probabl fake.. |
| 02:58.11 | evaded | bengrubb: It's not an hackers. It's an stupid _kiddie_!!! Know you about the real meaning of an hacker?? |
| 02:58.25 | bengrubb | theok ok |
| 02:58.31 | bengrubb | ":script kiddy" |
| 02:58.37 | nautiazn8 | Is it possible to install Debian using a wireless connection? |
| 02:58.43 | bengrubb | but they left tracks |
| 02:58.49 | junix | teledyn: http://pastebin.com/676271 |
| 02:58.51 | Arafangion | nautiazn8: It is harder. |
| 02:59.00 | Solet | what is the command for checking the status of eth0? |
| 02:59.05 | bengrubb | like a website a name and im whosing they're domain name |
| 02:59.07 | evaded | bengrubb: Or an cracker if you want |
| 02:59.10 | teledyn | junix: i don't care about that. just tell me, in english, what you think the error is about |
| 02:59.13 | bengrubb | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=vurgunonline.net%2F |
| 02:59.22 | junix | its a vmware problem... |
| 02:59.24 | nautiazn8 | arafangion: does the debian bootcd include wireless modules? |
| 02:59.25 | Arafangion | evaded: I consider myself a hacker, but not a cracker. |
| 02:59.25 | *** join/#debian MrCoYoTe (n=MrCoYoTe@AAnnecy-251-1-26-214.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:59.26 | evaded | bengrubb: Not an *hacker*!!! |
| 02:59.36 | bengrubb | ok ok |
| 02:59.43 | bengrubb | kiddie* |
| 02:59.45 | Arafangion | nautiazn8: Don't konw, I haven't kept on top of install cd's since potato. |
| 02:59.45 | bengrubb | grr |
| 02:59.46 | evaded | Arafangion: You're good and a hacker, not an fucking cracker |
| 02:59.55 | Arafangion | evaded++ |
| 02:59.58 | bengrubb | that rhymes |
| 02:59.58 | teledyn | junix: obviously you have more serious issues going on. you are failing to read the text. you copied into this window but failed to read/process what it said. sorry i can't help |
| 03:00.00 | flyingfox | evaded> it works. after instaling Xfonts-base on my laptop, Xorg xserver could start. thanks a million. anyway i could file this incident so that others could benefit from it |
| 03:00.03 | evaded | It's to ease to use the right toooool for the riiiight job!!! |
| 03:00.19 | bengrubb | yes!!!!!.... |
| 03:00.28 | nautiazn8 | how do I install debian using a wireless connection? It's too much of a pain for me to move my computer to a jack that's close |
| 03:00.39 | evaded | flyingfox: It's normal i give you some advies ;-) lol |
| 03:00.51 | bengrubb | it or watever put and index.html in my htdocs with a logo and a website |
| 03:00.53 | flyingfox | evaded> thanks a million again |
| 03:01.04 | Arafangion | nautiazn8: I usually keep a long cable for temporary jobs, but I"m fortunate in having the opportunity to buy bulk cable. |
| 03:01.09 | evaded | flyingfox: Everyone are welcome here ;-) |
| 03:01.13 | junix | teledyn: i know what the issue is, cause it worked on 2.6.15 but not here |
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| 03:01.37 | Arafangion | nautiazn8: I would probably download the first CD, and use that to install, then see if you have sufficient tools to setup the wireless, if not, try cd 2, and 3. |
| 03:01.41 | junix | teledyn: what serious issue woudl that be |
| 03:01.43 | Arafangion | nautiazn8: I doubt you'll need more than 3. |
| 03:01.57 | evaded | bengrubb: Keep in mind the diferences of an _hacker_ and /cracker/ and *kiddy's* |
| 03:02.16 | Jmax | anyone know of a good resource for using a WUSB54G wireless adapter to bridge to make a Debian router? |
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| 03:02.28 | bengrubb | ok inserting in to mindd |
| 03:02.31 | evaded | Jmax: Google?? |
| 03:02.38 | bengrubb | ok inserted |
| 03:02.38 | nautiazn8 | b l a h |
| 03:02.44 | nautiazn8 | might as well go with gentoo |
| 03:02.46 | nautiazn8 | hahaha |
| 03:02.51 | Jmax | evaded: tried that |
| 03:02.52 | nautiazn8 | sigh |
| 03:02.55 | nautiazn8 | but that means two gentoo machines |
| 03:02.58 | evaded | bengrubb: Please because it's really not the same thing!!! |
| 03:03.13 | bengrubb | yes ive noticed |
| 03:03.18 | evaded | bengrubb: Not need to insult the hackers here !!! |
| 03:03.23 | bengrubb | lol |
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| 03:03.31 | ranix_ | are there still hackers? |
| 03:03.41 | bengrubb | hackers are cool....?! |
| 03:03.42 | chealer9 | nautiazn8: there's nothing particular, unless your chipset is poorly supported (which is typical) |
| 03:03.44 | junix | well guess since i can't get any help here as usual, i will have to go elsewhere, this is pathetic, you can't even just tell me the damn answer |
| 03:03.51 | evaded | Trev1: my HHKB :-p |
| 03:03.53 | bengrubb | crackers are good for fbi |
| 03:03.54 | Trixy | junix, repeat the question for me |
| 03:04.00 | evaded | Trix: : my HHKB :-p |
| 03:04.05 | bengrubb | kiddies are good 4 nufing |
| 03:04.27 | SimonRaven | !tell bengrubb -about hacker |
| 03:04.31 | junix | Trix: i am having issues getting vmware to compile on Debian Unstable |
| 03:04.34 | junix | using 2.6.16 |
| 03:04.42 | Trixy | I use VMware |
| 03:04.44 | junix | ok |
| 03:04.47 | Trixy | what kind of problems are you having? |
| 03:04.51 | junix | it won't compile |
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| 03:05.03 | Trixy | that's kind of a broad range of possible causes |
| 03:05.05 | junix | Trixy: http://pastebin.com/676271 |
| 03:05.08 | junix | look at that |
| 03:05.20 | bengrubb | im just saying if i ring +90.2324891444 and ask for "amere" i wonder what would happen |
| 03:05.22 | chealer9 | nautiazn8: actually, I never did it, and it may be "particular" in the sense that it may fail to connect without some manual intervention, but that shouldn't be fatal |
| 03:05.33 | teledyn | junix: did you check to see if the header file is actually there? |
| 03:05.43 | junix | no...usually it is. |
| 03:05.52 | junix | i shouldn't really have to check for it |
| 03:05.53 | chealer9 | nautiazn8: unless you'd plan to use the business card |
| 03:06.25 | bengrubb | i got an email now |
| 03:06.25 | bengrubb | kesfialem@hotmail.com |
| 03:06.33 | bengrubb | http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=vurgunonline.net/&email=on |
| 03:06.33 | junix | teledyn: its there |
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| 03:06.54 | bengrubb | that was whatever thing/person put logo on my site |
| 03:07.03 | bengrubb | noooooooo |
| 03:07.15 | bengrubb | spam is fun to shuffle through... |
| 03:07.36 | teledyn | junix: vmware doesn't think so |
| 03:07.40 | Trixy | how are you compiling, Junix? Are you trying the straight source-install or making a .deb package? |
| 03:07.54 | junix | source compile against the deb kerenl |
| 03:07.56 | Arafangion | bengrubb: On irc, *always* send email addys via privmsg, as they are much less likely to get harvested. |
| 03:08.07 | Arafangion | bengrubb: Harvesting irc is quite common. |
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| 03:08.19 | Trixy | have you tried a new "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" yet? |
| 03:08.33 | bengrubb | yer its not my email its sum1 elses lol |
| 03:08.39 | Trixy | it seems to be not finding your kernel headers |
| 03:08.42 | Arafangion | bengrubb: Ahh, that' makes it ok(!) |
| 03:08.46 | bengrubb | lol |
| 03:08.48 | bengrubb | hehe |
| 03:08.51 | hytll | damn, i just screwed up my install |
| 03:08.55 | bengrubb | muahahha |
| 03:09.00 | junix | Trixy: linux-headers-2.6.16-1-686 is already the newest version. |
| 03:09.00 | junix | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 213 not upgraded. |
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| 03:09.29 | flyingfox | hi all, am using debian etch when i click on gnome>administration>printing error msg: 'The Cups server could not be contacted' |
| 03:09.29 | Trixy | what is your current kernel |
| 03:09.34 | bengrubb | cause i know google or some bot will prob search these convos |
| 03:09.38 | hytll | i had an old copy of debian on my crappy laptop (no cd, just floppy), so i put a the new installer in /boot/newinstall with an iso |
| 03:09.40 | flyingfox | the gnome cups manager is installed |
| 03:09.46 | flyingfox | kernel is 2.6 |
| 03:09.50 | Arafangion | flyingfox: Do you have cups installed? |
| 03:09.50 | evaded | flyingfox: Is cups been installed? |
| 03:09.56 | junix | Trixy: 2.6.16-1-686 but i just upgraded it |
| 03:09.57 | bengrubb | lets all give spam to whoever/whatever put theat thing on my page... |
| 03:10.09 | hytll | i had to copy the iso from /boot/newinstall to /, so it would get picked up by the installer's init stuff |
| 03:10.09 | Trixy | junix, I assume you've rebooted since upgrading? |
| 03:10.17 | evaded | bengrubb: Give him an GB of viagra |
| 03:10.22 | bengrubb | kesfialem@hotmail.com |
| 03:10.22 | bengrubb | kesfialem@hotmail.com |
| 03:10.28 | hytll | i forgot to umount it from the install environment when mke2fs'ing, and it died in the middle of a format |
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| 03:10.31 | junix | Trixy: yes |
| 03:10.53 | bengrubb | heh i added them on msn |
| 03:10.53 | flyingfox | evaded> i gnome -cups-manager is isntalled. how do i check whether cups is installed |
| 03:10.57 | Arafangion | bengrubb: That's a hotmail account. Those users won't even notice the spam. |
| 03:11.06 | Trixy | do a uname -s and tell me what it says |
| 03:11.10 | evaded | flyingfox: dpkg -l "cups*" |
| 03:11.19 | flyingfox | >evaded> tyhanks |
| 03:11.24 | junix | Linux computer 2.6.16-1-686 #2 Thu Apr 20 20:35:02 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 03:11.49 | evaded | flyingfox: Give my a cup of coffee :-p it's 5:13 AM |
| 03:12.13 | Jmax | does anyone know how to set up a WUSB54G wireless AP? |
| 03:12.24 | flyingfox | evaded> u want extra milk? :-P |
| 03:12.25 | bengrubb | i might i love wireless |
| 03:12.30 | Daveman | :p |
| 03:12.43 | evaded | flyingfox: And 2 sugars :-) |
| 03:12.52 | ceplma | Jmax: ndiswrapper? |
| 03:12.54 | evaded | Jmax: Which brand? |
| 03:13.03 | Jmax | ceplma: linksys WUSB54G with a prism54 chipset |
| 03:13.06 | Jmax | i think |
| 03:13.27 | evaded | Jmax: Work that not out of the box? I'm really not sure? |
| 03:13.30 | bengrubb | u using windows? |
| 03:13.49 | evaded | bengrubb: And then you complain that you are attacked!!!! |
| 03:13.52 | d4t2iLL4 | in the aliases, can we specify more than one user? |
| 03:13.58 | junix | Trixy: ...? |
| 03:14.02 | flyingfox | evaded> msg "No packages found matching cups" |
| 03:14.05 | Jmax | evaded: heh |
| 03:14.13 | evaded | flyingfox: no installed probably |
| 03:14.33 | evaded | flyingfox: Try to do an little search, really easy 'apt-cache search cups' |
| 03:14.34 | flyingfox | ok |
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| 03:14.43 | Solet | how do you bring an ethernet card up, I tried ifconfig eth2 up, it's not connecting but showing that it is sending shit |
| 03:14.48 | Trixy | junix, looking. You shouldn't be having that problem |
| 03:14.58 | evaded | flyingfox: Then when you need to install somethings 'apt-get install <package>' |
| 03:14.58 | teledyn | junix: i've got 5.5.1-19175 running on a .15 sorry i said .16 earlier - haven't tried it with that yet. its very possible its not compatible |
| 03:15.07 | Jmax | flyingfox: apt-get install gnome-cups-manager cupsys |
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| 03:15.16 | teledyn | junix: if .15 works i'd just stick with it |
| 03:15.21 | evaded | flyingfox: But i can also advies you the reference, you need to bookmark it |
| 03:15.28 | evaded | !tell flyingfox about ref |
| 03:15.37 | Trixy | junix, try building a .deb with fakeroot |
| 03:15.47 | evaded | flyingfox: Look to what dpkg has say you |
| 03:16.01 | junix | teledyn: its cool |
| 03:16.03 | junix | thanks tho |
| 03:16.13 | junix | i'll just reboot and wait for the next release of the kernel |
| 03:16.24 | evaded | Solet: That second card are been configured? |
| 03:16.32 | Trixy | ah well |
| 03:16.46 | flyingfox | evaded> thanks |
| 03:16.49 | Solet | evaded: ... no idea what you mean |
| 03:16.52 | teledyn | junix: FWIW i've had a lot of compilation failures with it recently. |
| 03:17.14 | evaded | Solet: What try you exactly? |
| 03:17.30 | Trixy | teledyn, you're not just kidding, you should have seen what I just had to go through to get the new version of ndiswrapper compiled |
| 03:17.41 | junix | teledyn: hmmm...they are a bit slow on dev but they do make it work...so i can wait...thy are owned by EMC |
| 03:18.01 | bengrubb | evaded what do you mean because i like wireless i was attacked? |
| 03:18.08 | bengrubb | if so yes wireless is insecure |
| 03:18.32 | bengrubb | but i use mac filtering unless an attacker knows a valid mac it can't enter |
| 03:18.39 | evaded | bengrubb: Everythings could be are so secure as so insecure as possible! |
| 03:18.57 | Trixy | mac filtering and WPA here |
| 03:19.06 | evaded | bengrubb: My wireless are open, an never i can ... somebody! Not nice :-/ |
| 03:19.16 | mishael | ben:you are no fun |
| 03:19.19 | bengrubb | i might use wpa.. worpska |
| 03:19.22 | flyingfox | evaded> done apt-get install cupsys |
| 03:19.24 | bengrubb | opps |
| 03:19.29 | bengrubb | wpska summinlike that |
| 03:19.36 | Trixy | attacking an open AP is pretty low though |
| 03:19.42 | evaded | flyingfox: And that other one of gnome? I not use Gnome |
| 03:19.53 | flyingfox | >evaded> <Jmax> Gnome printing works now, thanks. |
| 03:19.55 | bengrubb | yer but ppl do war drive |
| 03:20.05 | bengrubb | is that under the cracking category evaded? |
| 03:20.05 | Trixy | yeah but a wardriver should never ATTACK an ap |
| 03:20.07 | evaded | Trixy: He only need to be enter ;-) |
| 03:20.21 | bengrubb | and get free internet.. |
| 03:20.29 | Trixy | I am getting free internet right now |
| 03:20.32 | Trixy | ;) |
| 03:20.39 | mishael | me too ;) |
| 03:20.43 | nautiazn8 | How do i install Debian on a wireless connection? |
| 03:20.44 | bengrubb | next door or suummin... |
| 03:20.44 | Trixy | my provider's ssid is "linksys" |
| 03:20.51 | *** part/#debian Pedro420 (i=pedro@c-24-3-241-206.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:20.52 | bengrubb | hah |
| 03:20.54 | evaded | bengrubb: You need to read some stuff i guess conserning hackers. |
| 03:20.55 | Trixy | password is "admin" |
| 03:21.03 | bengrubb | hahaha |
| 03:21.06 | Trixy | hackers are no more |
| 03:21.06 | bengrubb | admin admin |
| 03:21.11 | lodis4 | how can I search for files that have the suid/guid bit set using the command line?? |
| 03:21.13 | bengrubb | they're the defaults |
| 03:21.13 | evaded | nautiazn8: You got some troubles i think. |
| 03:21.18 | bengrubb | for a linksys router... |
| 03:21.32 | mishael | let me write that down ;) |
| 03:21.55 | evaded | !shit |
| 03:21.55 | dpkg | hmm... shit is fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
| 03:21.57 | nautiazn8 | evaded: is it really difficult or something? |
| 03:21.58 | Trixy | mishael, actually it's username: (blank) password: admin |
| 03:22.12 | bengrubb | ok strange.. |
| 03:22.12 | nautiazn8 | evaded: does the debian installation cd not include wireless-tools and modules for wireless cards? |
| 03:22.31 | evaded | nautiazn8: I think the simples is to take that hard disk and install it some else |
| 03:22.31 | mishael | trix:ok thanks |
| 03:22.38 | bengrubb | you're lucky where u live in australia isp's havn't put many hotspots up |
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| 03:22.46 | bengrubb | only in sydney |
| 03:22.47 | *** join/#debian unity (n=unity@pool-141-155-10-203.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:22.48 | Trixy | nautiazn8, what kind of tools do you need? Do you know iwconfig, ifconfig, and iwlist? |
| 03:23.02 | Trixy | nautiazn8, earlier is better than later for learning them |
| 03:23.02 | SimonRaven | !tell evaded -about hacker |
| 03:23.20 | evaded | SimonRaven: I know, i guess you shoot the bad person |
| 03:23.33 | bengrubb | sum1 who is curious to ploease themselves.. |
| 03:23.36 | *** join/#debian path_ (n=legeia@200.111.29.158) |
| 03:23.41 | bengrubb | sumthing like that |
| 03:23.47 | nautiazn8 | trixy: I currently use gentoo on my lappie... wanted to install debian and try it out on my desktop. |
| 03:23.57 | nautiazn8 | trixy: im talking about iwconfig and iwlist |
| 03:23.58 | evaded | SimonRaven: It's already read and noted on my list http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/test/test_website/guicms/html/pages/index.php?pidtitle=good_stuff_to_read |
| 03:24.03 | Trixy | nautiazn8, they come stock |
| 03:24.10 | nautiazn8 | trixy: with the installation cd? |
| 03:24.12 | Trixy | nautiazn8, kismet is a suggested addition but it's not super necessary |
| 03:24.14 | Jmax | hmm |
| 03:24.31 | unity | hello, i was wondering if anyone knows how to run maxima in a emacs window as in: http://maxima.sourceforge.net/screenshots.shtml ? |
| 03:24.32 | Trixy | nautiazn8, depends what cd you get, there are a great number of them or you can build your own with jigdo |
| 03:24.34 | chealer9 | nautiazn8: please don't repeat questions, particularly when you already got answers |
| 03:24.39 | Trixy | nautiazn8, but I assume almost all of them do |
| 03:24.54 | nautiazn8 | chealer9: my question wasn't ever answered except with "get a long network cable" |
| 03:25.02 | unity | particularly the ones with graphical presentations of math equations |
| 03:25.13 | nautiazn8 | trixy: how about the official debian CD? |
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| 03:25.41 | *** join/#debian Mr_Smiley (n=smiley@58.160.196.126) |
| 03:25.41 | |main| | hi all |
| 03:25.48 | *** join/#debian Stevie (n=whatsit2@c-69-242-22-130.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:25.53 | chealer9 | nautiazn8: I would doubt that, considering that my log shows 4 messages just from me |
| 03:26.26 | Trixy | nautiazn8, The "official" cd(s) contain just about everything. Disk 1 is just very basic stuff, practically a net install. The actual "full" installation is many CDs in length |
| 03:26.36 | Jmax | WARNING: Error inserting ieee80211_crypt (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.ko): Invalid module format |
| 03:26.36 | Jmax | FATAL: Error inserting ieee80211 (/lib/modules/2.6.16-1-686/kernel/net/ieee80211/ieee80211.ko): Invalid module format |
| 03:26.37 | Trixy | nautiazn8, I recommend reading up on "how to get Debian" at www.debian.org |
| 03:26.40 | Jmax | what does this mean? |
| 03:26.42 | mishael | hello |main| |
| 03:26.56 | |main| | how is it going |
| 03:26.58 | Trixy | should be a link on the left navbar |
| 03:27.08 | |main| | im curious, why is it loading apps on linux is so much slower? |
| 03:27.19 | chealer9 | Jmax: it means that the module you're trying to insert isn't appropriate for your kernel |
| 03:27.25 | Jmax | chealer9: oh |
| 03:27.26 | |main| | kedit takes longer than msoffice under wine |
| 03:27.26 | mishael | slower than what? |
| 03:27.29 | nautiazn8 | trixy: thanks |
| 03:27.34 | Trixy | np |
| 03:27.38 | |main| | mishael: slower than their counterparts under windows |
| 03:27.43 | |main| | ive done extensive testing |
| 03:27.45 | Mr_Smiley | the link to the FAQ doesn't work |
| 03:27.46 | teledyn | Trixy: i just meant WRT vmware on recent kernels. it seems only the very latest version builds on recent ones |
| 03:27.48 | |main| | and timing, it seems they do |
| 03:27.52 | teledyn | Trixy: i just installed 1.15rc1 on my own .16 yesterday no problems |
| 03:28.02 | teledyn | i don't know what patches debian uses with its kernels. might be incompatible with some other modules. i go as vanilla as possible (only patch with swsusp2) |
| 03:28.05 | mishael | alot of ms stuff is built into the os |
| 03:28.09 | teledyn | junix: yeah i'd love to see the kernel support for it that was mentioned recently. that would be kick-ass |
| 03:28.37 | |main| | mishael: but under WINE ? |
| 03:28.47 | |main| | under WINE msoffice starts faster than kedit or gedit |
| 03:29.22 | evaded | Mr_Smiley: Which one? |
| 03:29.26 | Azar | k is bloated |
| 03:29.26 | Azar | ouch server going bye? |
| 03:29.26 | Azar | :( |
| 03:29.26 | Azar | not good |
| 03:29.26 | *** part/#debian Azar (n=tyhon@66.166.120.12) |
| 03:29.31 | mishael | hmm never used wine |
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| 03:29.53 | Azar | ok what going on? |
| 03:29.53 | Mr_Smiley | evaded: in the topic |
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| 03:29.56 | evaded | Azar: Middle button i guess |
| 03:30.01 | |main| | mishael: anyway, it is noticabl, did you ever notice this? |
| 03:30.03 | Azar | evaded: not me |
| 03:30.07 | Azar | I use kbd only |
| 03:30.28 | Azar | evaded: server split or was just me? |
| 03:30.31 | evaded | Azar: Little network trouble |
| 03:30.35 | Azar | ah ok |
| 03:30.35 | mishael | no i don't use wine and try not to use ms ;) |
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| 03:30.49 | evaded | Azar: Some times some clients .... |
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| 03:31.05 | Azar | evaded: it looked like someone was pinging me hard |
| 03:31.09 | minerale | What tool's documentation do I need to read in order to configure my wifi's WAP key? |
| 03:31.22 | evaded | Azar: Are pings loged? |
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| 03:31.34 | Azar | I wish... don't know how |
| 03:31.37 | Azar | irssi here |
| 03:31.43 | evaded | nice |
| 03:31.46 | evaded | !wap |
| 03:31.46 | dpkg | it has been said that wap is a waste of time, or wap porn sucks as well |
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| 03:32.19 | evaded | Azar: Using xchat now, but noramlly i use the same as you |
| 03:32.32 | lewwy | !tell lewwy about nvidia |
| 03:32.42 | chealer9 | !tell lewwy about selftell |
| 03:32.43 | mishael | minerale: iwconfig? |
| 03:32.49 | |main| | why do you try not to use MS products? |
| 03:33.18 | Cowman | I'm having opengl troubles with etch and nvidia. Card works, X starts, running glxgears or glxinfo causes X to crash and restart |
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| 03:33.28 | Azar | |main|: why not, I assume anyone who wants to use linux tries to get rid of ms |
| 03:33.48 | lewwy | why are people ever so quick to repremand others about even the slightest rule violation? |
| 03:33.49 | lewwy | =\ |
| 03:34.16 | Azar | lewwy: I am sure was nobody's intention.. just pointed you to the right direction |
| 03:34.16 | |main| | Azar: why, because msoffice is defacto standard, and is much more faster than openoffice |
| 03:34.17 | chealer9 | !blame lewwy |
| 03:34.31 | lewwy | !tell chealer9 stfu |
| 03:34.41 | Azar | |main|: Id pass it for only few seconds delay |
| 03:34.45 | Cowman | guessing an opengl driver or something isn't working right... but I don't know where to go from here in diagnosing |
| 03:34.45 | lewwy | >=( |
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| 03:35.06 | |main| | oh well |
| 03:35.12 | evaded | |main|: You mean _faster_ to crash or so?? |
| 03:35.17 | Azar | haha |
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| 03:35.29 | |main| | crashing of msoffice = myth |
| 03:35.30 | teledyn | Cowman: nvidia-glx is installed? |
| 03:35.32 | chealer9 | !lose lewwy |
| 03:35.33 | dpkg | lewwy: You Lose. |
| 03:35.34 | |main| | bad uptimes for xp = myth |
| 03:36.01 | Cowman | the apt package? |
| 03:36.01 | |main| | i just worked on a xp workstation that has not been rebooted for a month, and is being used by students everyday for at least 10 hours |
| 03:36.03 | lewwy | !win lewwy |
| 03:36.03 | dpkg | Congratulations, lewwy! You have won a one way ticket to Rio de Janeiro! |
| 03:36.04 | Azar | |main|: if you are so infatuated with ms stay with it |
| 03:36.05 | lunar | if I'm getting the message "MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC" should I use "linux noapic" or "linux pci=noapic"? I have seen two different resolutions whilst Googling. |
| 03:36.13 | |main| | Azar: i am not |
| 03:36.13 | lewwy | !tell chealer9 owned |
| 03:36.18 | lewwy | ACK |
| 03:36.19 | Azar | :) |
| 03:36.21 | lewwy | WHY TARGET INVALID |
| 03:36.29 | Cowman | Package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package....... |
| 03:36.33 | |main| | i like some things about kde, but some things are just not right, and im trying to figure out why |
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| 03:36.46 | evaded | |main|: I have boot an fucking comp some days ago .... VIRUS VIRUS ... You know the shit probably |
| 03:36.47 | Azar | figures |
| 03:36.51 | mishael | |main|: i prefer not to pay $200 for an os |
| 03:36.54 | stonee | What's the name of a mailreader that i can install that supports HTML? |
| 03:37.05 | Azar | k is bloated, I use openoffice without kde or gnome |
| 03:37.11 | stonee | I tried installing thunderbird, but it woudln't allow me to read the local messages |
| 03:37.20 | stonee | (it just wanted to retrieve remote mail) |
| 03:37.22 | lunar | not $200. free, really, if you're inventive. but can be had for $100 or less. |
| 03:37.40 | teledyn | stonee: kmail, balsa, evolution |
| 03:37.44 | SimonRaven | |main|: i bet it isn't connected to the internet |
| 03:37.44 | mishael | lunar:yes i know |
| 03:37.50 | Cowman | how am I supposed to figure out what other package it's in? |
| 03:37.58 | edmundo_v | does anyone here knows how to configure the horde webmail in debian? |
| 03:38.03 | |main| | SimonRaven: it is connected, of course |
| 03:38.04 | stonee | is evolution available as a package? it isn't listed from packages.debian.org? |
| 03:38.16 | chealer9 | lewwy: if I teach you how to use the bot, will I be told to STFU again? |
| 03:38.31 | |main| | SimonRaven: its a university workstation, in a student lab |
| 03:38.37 | chealer9 | !tell stonee about info evolution |
| 03:38.43 | teledyn | stonee: i'm not sure. maybe someone else knows status of evolution in sarge??? |
| 03:38.43 | |main| | so you can imagine amounts of abuse it gets:) |
| 03:38.46 | lewwy | chealer9, if you teach me how to use the bot, I will wash your car, walk your dog, paint your house, give you beer and a back massage. |
| 03:39.22 | stonee | chealer9: the message i received is about the groupware suit, not the client |
| 03:39.30 | Azar | good journey honorables |
| 03:39.47 | SimonRaven | the gateway probably does heavy filtering ... |
| 03:39.59 | chealer9 | stonee: which client? evolution is not a MUA? |
| 03:40.01 | lewwy | your gateway enjoys the cock |
| 03:40.03 | killown | as I execute aterm with another user? |
| 03:40.12 | evaded | lewwy: Begin with '/msg dpkg help' |
| 03:40.26 | stonee | chealer9: it is... but i can't find a debian package for it |
| 03:40.49 | lewwy | mmm |
| 03:40.56 | chealer9 | lewwy: I don't have any of those, and my back's skin has an issue so I won't be able to benefit from the massage |
| 03:41.05 | chealer9 | lewwy: but it's a deal for the beer |
| 03:41.28 | chealer9 | stonee: http://packages.debian.org/evolution |
| 03:41.29 | |main| | what filtering? |
| 03:41.56 | chealer9 | lewwy: you need to use "!tell foo about bar", not just "!tell foo bar" |
| 03:42.03 | lewwy | ahhhh |
| 03:42.05 | lewwy | okay |
| 03:42.13 | chealer9 | lewwy: aah, that was worth it |
| 03:42.43 | stonee | errm sorry... for some reason i thought that the package was like phpgroupware |
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| 03:43.09 | lewwy | aaaanyway, nvidia-glx and its respective repositry is missing from my sources.list. can somebody hit me up with a repo that has glx on it? I net inst'd last night and its not there. |
| 03:43.24 | chealer9 | lewwy: which release do you use? |
| 03:43.34 | lewwy | chealer9, i *think* etchy |
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| 03:43.49 | miki4 | hey, i copied directory from ntfs and its read-only, i need to run some script wich must have option to write, is there anything i can do about it? |
| 03:43.55 | SimonRaven | !version |
| 03:43.56 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 03:43.59 | chealer9 | lewwy: there's no etchy (but an Etch), but you should be sure about the release you use |
| 03:44.10 | lewwy | chealer9, yeh i think its Etch |
| 03:44.10 | killown | how to use loadkeys map in aterm? |
| 03:44.12 | lewwy | how can i check chealer9 |
| 03:44.17 | stonee | man debian is great... i like how everything "just works" |
| 03:44.24 | chealer9 | !tell lewwy about debian version |
| 03:44.27 | stonee | the default values are also very sensible |
| 03:44.38 | lewwy | miki4, su into root then type chown (user) (directory) and then chmod 777 (directory) |
| 03:44.44 | mishael | miki4:set up captive-ntfs |
| 03:45.04 | chealer9 | stonee: hehe, that's a nice moment of naiveness you're sharing :) |
| 03:45.04 | lewwy | testing/unstable |
| 03:45.18 | chealer9 | !testing/unstable |
| 03:45.18 | dpkg | Debian doesn't distinguish if a system runs testing or unstable. "testing/unstable" means a system is either tracking testing or unstable or a mix. if you want the list of releases your system really tracks, run $ apt-cache policy|awk '$1<2000{n=split$3,r,"/";ifn{print r[1];}}'|sort -u|tr "n" ,;echo; |
| 03:45.25 | stonee | so far everything has been pretty good for me... |
| 03:45.41 | stonee | then again, i don't have very many requirements... |
| 03:45.47 | stonee | just the basics |
| 03:45.48 | lewwy | that command makes baby jesus cry |
| 03:46.13 | lewwy | it isn't sarge |
| 03:46.22 | chealer9 | lewwy: mice can save some cries |
| 03:46.24 | miki4 | lewwy: what should be in (user)? my linux user name? |
| 03:46.30 | lewwy | wait, would the name of the iso i net inst'd from tell me? |
| 03:46.35 | lewwy | miki4, yes |
| 03:46.36 | chealer9 | lewwy: OK, but you should know more precise than that |
| 03:46.45 | miki4 | leewy: thanks :) |
| 03:46.58 | lewwy | also miki4, you might want to add --recursive on the end of that command |
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| 03:47.05 | lewwy | for both of them miki4, saves trouble later on |
| 03:47.09 | chealer9 | miki4: probably, but what's wrong with running that command? |
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| 03:47.37 | chealer9 | miki4: sorry |
| 03:47.37 | chealer9 | lewwy: ^^ |
| 03:47.49 | Cowman | I don't understand, shouldn't running the nvidia installer install opengl libraries and everything for you? |
| 03:48.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 761] by debhelper |
| 03:48.15 | chealer9 | Cowman: which installer are you talking about, upstream's nvidia-installer? |
| 03:48.25 | Cowman | the one you download from nvidia |
| 03:48.30 | Cowman | the .run file |
| 03:48.30 | lewwy | ouch... |
| 03:48.38 | chealer9 | Cowman: only the Debian way is supported here. ask #nvidia |
| 03:48.43 | lewwy | !tell Cowman about nvidia |
| 03:48.49 | miki4 | lewwy: at end of chown, yup? |
| 03:48.55 | lewwy | yuppo miki4 |
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| 03:49.10 | miki4 | leewy: kk |
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| 03:49.24 | Cowman | heh, that's odd. never had issues with it before on debian |
| 03:49.30 | lewwy | leewy? |
| 03:50.23 | miki4 | yup, my bad |
| 03:50.40 | lewwy | argh...i might just go back to knoppix |
| 03:52.09 | chealer9 | lewwy: doesn't Knoppix also only enable free software by default? |
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| 03:52.20 | Cowman | ok... is the nvidia-kernel package not in etch? |
| 03:52.44 | lewwy | chealer9, in knoppix nvidia-glx was already sitting in kpackage waiting for me, but thats probably a subject for #knoppix |
| 03:52.54 | chealer9 | Cowman: there are some, but those should be removed, because the X libs were removed from Etch |
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| 03:53.25 | Cowman | crap, why? |
| 03:53.33 | lewwy | wait, i had to install x common before startx would work with my netinst. does that mean i have etch chealer9? |
| 03:53.46 | chealer9 | lewwy: hum, it would indeed be a #knoppix topic, but I'm pretty surprised. I'm glad to know though, I'll pay attention if I have a reason to use Knoppix again some day |
| 03:53.59 | aaryal | Cowman: 'aptitude install module-assistant; m-a auto-install nvidia' should get you all the nvidia stuff + the opengl goodness. |
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| 03:54.34 | chealer9 | Cowman: because the drivers had an RC bug since over a year |
| 03:54.36 | stonee | how can i determine which package a deb depends on (if it is currently installed)? |
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| 03:54.48 | dad | can anybody help me get a usb device working? |
| 03:54.54 | chant | Is anyone here intimately familiar with the debian installer? :) |
| 03:55.18 | Cowman | RC bug? |
| 03:55.19 | chealer9 | stonee: $ apt-cache show foo; or use synaptic |
| 03:55.19 | chant | I'm trying to use a custom kernel with it so that I can install directly to reiser4. Trouble is the symlinks to my devices aren't being created by udev... |
| 03:55.26 | chealer9 | !tell Cowman about rc |
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| 03:55.44 | chant | my storage devices... |
| 03:55.44 | Cowman | ok |
| 03:55.45 | lewwy | hey chealer9, can you go into #flood so i can paste to you the error that apitude gives me? |
| 03:55.47 | chealer9 | lewwy: from what you said, it's pretty clear that you have Etch, but I was letting you make sure because that's important to know. |
| 03:55.50 | jetscreamer | #debian-boot |
| 03:55.55 | unstable | How do I scroll up in xterm |
| 03:56.01 | chealer9 | lewwy: I'm there |
| 03:56.01 | stonee | aha! no wonder i coudln't find it on the dpkg page.. thanks chealer! |
| 03:56.10 | chant | jetscreamer : was that for me? |
| 03:56.41 | chealer9 | lewwy: that's all? |
| 03:56.51 | lewwy | yeh, its fairly obvious that i need some more repo |
| 03:56.56 | evaded | unstable: Shift + pageup |
| 03:56.59 | lewwy | repo's, but what ones chealer9 ? |
| 03:57.37 | chant | you said #debian-boot |
| 03:57.41 | jetscreamer | ah... yes |
| 03:57.47 | jetscreamer | they know the installer |
| 03:57.52 | chant | thank you. |
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| 03:57.55 | jetscreamer | but only ask about the installer |
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| 03:58.32 | chealer9 | lewwy: I'm not sure about the best thing to do to install NVIDIA's drivers in Etch currently. sid's drivers are uninstallable in Etch. you may try using the legacy drivers, which weren't removed |
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| 03:58.58 | lewwy | :'( |
| 03:59.07 | Cowman | nope, that aptitude command doesn't do it |
| 03:59.26 | Cowman | "installation of nvidia-kernel-source failed" |
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| 04:00.57 | unstable | How do I make a directory web browseable? I have /path/to/myusername and that is my web space on this server, but I need to make a specific directory "browsable" for a install.php file. I did chmod 755 directory -R; but do I need to do something with .htaccess? |
| 04:01.03 | unstable | Because there is no .htaccess in my directory |
| 04:01.34 | Cowman | you need to make one and put something in it |
| 04:01.46 | aaryal | Cowman: run m-a and then follow the menus. you might need to 'prepare' it. |
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| 04:02.14 | Cowman | k |
| 04:02.19 | chealer9 | aaryal: that won't work. m-a needs nvidia-kernel-source to build the nvidia module |
| 04:02.30 | lewwy | wheeeeeeeeeee, got it sussed out chealer9 |
| 04:03.05 | chealer9 | lewwy: "sussed out"? what does that mean? |
| 04:03.09 | evaded | unstable: Make an dir 'public_html' in the users dir |
| 04:03.12 | Cowman | unstable: make an empty text file in your web directory named .htaccess and put this in it: Options +Indexes |
| 04:03.13 | lewwy | figured out, chealer9 |
| 04:03.25 | lewwy | also chealer9, whats the command to find out what kernel you're running atm |
| 04:03.41 | bengrubb | it comes up when you restart in grub bootloader |
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| 04:04.13 | evaded | unstable: Access it be http://localhost/~username |
| 04:04.33 | evaded | unstable: It's that what you want? |
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| 04:04.51 | Cowman | it seems that it's still trying to download nvidia-kernel-source but it can't get the package |
| 04:04.53 | lewwy | hey guys, whats the command to figure out version your kernel is? |
| 04:04.54 | chealer9 | lewwy: OK |
| 04:04.54 | slinn____ | lewwy: uname -a |
| 04:05.30 | stonee | when looking at a man page, how can you specify to use more or less? |
| 04:05.39 | lewwy | no...thats not possible |
| 04:05.39 | stonee | searching google for general terms like that is kind of tuff |
| 04:05.40 | Cowman | why would you? |
| 04:05.43 | lewwy | this can't be happening |
| 04:06.22 | htrp | how do you go to the end of the line with pico/nano? |
| 04:06.32 | chealer9 | stonee: search for "pager" in man man |
| 04:06.41 | stonee | cool |
| 04:07.40 | evaded | stoned: look to 'update-alternatives' |
| 04:07.51 | stoned | huh |
| 04:08.00 | stoned | calling my attention away from work for nothing |
| 04:08.00 | slinn____ | stonee: man -P less [package] |
| 04:08.05 | stoned | stop saying my nick ;) |
| 04:08.15 | evaded | stoned: As root user 'update-alternative --all' if you prefer. So you see the others... |
| 04:08.30 | stoned | evaded, why are you talking to me? |
| 04:08.50 | stonee | stoned: you have a nice 4/20? :) |
| 04:08.55 | evaded | stoned: oeps it's to 'stonee' that i need |
| 04:08.57 | stoned | indeed I did |
| 04:09.02 | stonee | hehe |
| 04:09.02 | evaded | stonee: As root user 'update-alternative --all' if you prefer. So you see the others... |
| 04:09.08 | stoned | now quit mkin my irc flash |
| 04:09.11 | stoned | :( |
| 04:09.25 | lewwy | yeh, some making stoned ircs flash |
| 04:09.26 | evaded | stoned: Have a good night lol ;-) |
| 04:09.31 | lewwy | i know how it feels to be stoned |
| 04:09.32 | unstable | awesome thanks Cowman |
| 04:09.37 | lewwy | its really annoying isnt it stoned ? |
| 04:09.40 | unstable | evaded: no but thanks for the help |
| 04:09.45 | stonee | ah! the man page actually uses it by default... but i didn't have less installed |
| 04:09.46 | unstable | evaded: I just needed .htaccess |
| 04:09.48 | lewwy | :) |
| 04:09.52 | stoned | im in the mniddle of modding diablo 2 |
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| 04:09.58 | stoned | I have been working nonstop for 3 days |
| 04:09.59 | ekim | ... |
| 04:10.00 | stoned | without sleep |
| 04:10.01 | evaded | unstable: ok, i had not been undstand what you wanted ;-) |
| 04:10.01 | ekim | hi |
| 04:10.05 | stoned | diablo 2 is the best game in the world |
| 04:10.09 | ekim | hey , can someone help me out |
| 04:10.13 | lewwy | what are you working on stoned |
| 04:10.18 | evaded | stoned: It's sunday now, time to sleep |
| 04:10.19 | lewwy | brb rebooting X |
| 04:10.20 | stoned | a mod |
| 04:10.30 | ekim | dude |
| 04:10.31 | stoned | modification for game diablo 2. hack n slash rpg |
| 04:10.36 | ekim | sunday is so 10 minutes ago |
| 04:10.53 | evaded | ekim: Have a good work day ;-) |
| 04:10.53 | ekim | ooo 11 minutes ago |
| 04:11.02 | ekim | anyways, can someone help me out with |
| 04:11.04 | ekim | .... |
| 04:11.04 | ekim | with |
| 04:11.06 | ekim | ... |
| 04:11.28 | ekim | Man , I forge twhat I needed help with....Some kind of os....maybe a free alternative or something.... |
| 04:11.28 | stoned | every 15 longitude is 60 minutes. Either way, Its 4:20 _somewhere_ in the world, so /me tokes |
| 04:11.36 | stonee | hehe |
| 04:11.50 | evaded | ekim: I guess, you need Debian |
| 04:12.01 | ekim | OMG HOW DID YOU KNOW |
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| 04:12.04 | ekim | your good |
| 04:12.07 | ekim | lol |
| 04:12.10 | ekim | anyways |
| 04:12.18 | chealer9 | ekim: apt-get install kaffeine |
| 04:12.32 | chealer9 | !tell ekim about enter |
| 04:12.39 | evaded | and shit |
| 04:12.41 | evaded | !shit |
| 04:12.41 | dpkg | i guess shit is fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
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| 04:13.03 | evaded | ekim: Smoke to many i guess?? |
| 04:13.08 | ekim | I just installed the latest release and I cant figure out hiow to get into the graphical environment/desktop/window manger |
| 04:13.11 | stonee | man... mason is the greatest ever! it's so easy to build a firewall |
| 04:13.24 | stonee | ekim: startx? |
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| 04:13.55 | evaded | Good night happy hackers. Going to sleep it's 06:15 QM |
| 04:14.00 | ekim | tried it lol |
| 04:14.14 | ekim | it drops me into a bash shell And I have no idea what to do |
| 04:14.24 | stonee | you should be prompted with an error |
| 04:14.34 | evaded | !tell ekim about ref |
| 04:14.40 | stonee | if not look at your log... /var/log/X* |
| 04:14.56 | ekim | what ? |
| 04:14.57 | jetscreamer | where the hell did the maintainer move the real gdm.conf |
| 04:14.58 | evaded | ekim: Look to what dpkg say you |
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| 04:16.26 | Trixy | wow, etherApe is really cool |
| 04:16.27 | evaded | jethro: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?? |
| 04:16.27 | Cowman | I found this in my X log, what does it mean? AUDIT: Sat Apr 22 23:46:51 2006: 20814 X: client 2 rejected from local host |
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| 04:16.36 | ekim | tell me what to do again ? |
| 04:16.37 | evaded | jetscreamer: : /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?? |
| 04:16.49 | evaded | !tell ekim about ref |
| 04:17.09 | evaded | ekim: I ask the bot 'dpkg' to give you some informations about 'ref' |
| 04:17.17 | evaded | s/ask/asked |
| 04:17.38 | ekim | O I get it |
| 04:17.45 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.46 | dpkg | okay, ekim |
| 04:17.50 | evaded | Yes you get it |
| 04:17.55 | evaded | !tell ekim about shit |
| 04:18.08 | ekim | <dpkg> evaded wants you to know: [shit] fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
| 04:18.22 | evaded | ekim: Nice, not? |
| 04:18.22 | ekim | what exactly do you want to know again ? |
| 04:18.37 | evaded | ekim: I not understand you |
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| 04:19.10 | ekim | Anyways the reference is not working , probably because I did a net install because I was too lazy to wait for the download |
| 04:19.37 | ekim | Is there not a command ...I dont knwo something short ...Like startx or something ... |
| 04:19.41 | m1ke_l | anyone have advice on getting ati drivers to work with xorg7 and unstable? |
| 04:19.41 | evaded | ekim: How so the reference is not working?? |
| 04:19.54 | evaded | ekim: hhhmmm |
| 04:19.58 | ekim | I dont know ...It says It cant find the package |
| 04:20.02 | evaded | ekim: Have you x installed? |
| 04:20.10 | evaded | ekim: And grafical environment? |
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| 04:20.18 | ekim | hmm |
| 04:20.23 | ekim | Im prety sure I do |
| 04:20.26 | ekim | If not |
| 04:20.40 | ekim | whats the command to grab it from the server and install it |
| 04:20.42 | evaded | ekim: On the end of the install you skipped the 'tasksel' (task selecter)?? |
| 04:20.51 | ekim | can you do that with apt-get |
| 04:20.57 | evaded | ekim: As root try 'tasksel' |
| 04:21.01 | ekim | tried it |
| 04:21.05 | evaded | ekim: wait |
| 04:21.10 | ekim | I looked on the boards before I came on here |
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| 04:21.37 | evaded | ekim: It depend what you want exactly, need you Gnome, KDE... What want you? |
| 04:21.40 | jetscreamer | no, the one with stuff in it, not that blank one. /etc/gdm/gdm.conf is where is used to be |
| 04:21.44 | ekim | Gnome is good |
| 04:22.04 | Trixy | yeah it's pretty decent |
| 04:22.05 | ekim | Me <3 gnome |
| 04:22.06 | evaded | !tell ekim about gnome |
| 04:22.17 | Trixy | !tell me about gnome |
| 04:22.20 | evaded | !tell ekim about selftell |
| 04:22.26 | Cowman | KDE > gnome |
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| 04:22.31 | jetscreamer | why no glxinfo or glxgears in sid and x11r7 |
| 04:22.42 | ekim | vaded wants you to know: Please do not use the bot's !tell feature on #debian to see factoids for yourself (!tell me about something). Doing so could be considered spam. Instead, send a private message to the bot (dpkg) containing the factoid you want to read. For example, instead of "!tell me about foo", use "/msg dpkg foo". |
| 04:22.57 | evaded | ekim: Not paste it here |
| 04:23.00 | Rizzer | jetscreamer: mesa-utils? |
| 04:23.00 | jetscreamer | !tell ekim about /msg |
| 04:23.10 | Trixy | evaded is trollish |
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| 04:23.33 | ekim | I know how to use irc thank you ....and I stopped being "enter-key-happy" right |
| 04:23.33 | evaded | Trixy: WHAT?? Are you sure you're with the good guy? |
| 04:23.45 | Trixy | gb2/b/ |
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| 04:24.09 | ekim | anyways Can I do a network install of gnome with apt-get ? |
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| 04:24.20 | evaded | ekim: sure |
| 04:24.28 | jetscreamer | apt-get install gnome would work but be bloated |
| 04:24.36 | ekim | the problem is ....Knowing where it us in the server |
| 04:24.48 | ekim | ok..how do you suggest I do it then |
| 04:24.48 | evaded | ekim: Have you read what dpkg have told you? |
| 04:24.53 | ekim | yeah |
| 04:24.58 | jetscreamer | i just told you |
| 04:24.59 | evaded | ekim: And good? |
| 04:25.04 | ekim | the reference thing wont work for some reason |
| 04:25.13 | jetscreamer | what part didn't you understand |
| 04:25.13 | evaded | ekim: After that |
| 04:25.22 | ekim | I typed it and it didnt work |
| 04:25.30 | jetscreamer | as root |
| 04:25.31 | BlackJud1s | My gnome applications menu no longer displays the default debian menu... is this on purpose? or can I run some command to update the gnome menu to show the debian one? |
| 04:25.32 | evaded | ekim: The link you mean or so? |
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| 04:25.39 | jetscreamer | apt-get update first |
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| 04:25.48 | ekim | hmm ... |
| 04:25.54 | jetscreamer | !info apt-spy |
| 04:25.56 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-14 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 04:25.58 | evaded | BlackJud1s: 'update-menus' |
| 04:26.12 | BlackJud1s | evaded, doesn't work :s already tried. |
| 04:26.13 | ekim | no new updates |
| 04:26.31 | evaded | BlackJud1s: And with another user? |
| 04:26.41 | evaded | BlackJud1s: I mean the gnome session |
| 04:26.48 | jetscreamer | !Rizzer++ |
| 04:26.49 | ekim | I dont have gnome lol |
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| 04:26.58 | ekim | thats the problem here |
| 04:27.00 | jetscreamer | !info gnome sarge |
| 04:27.04 | dpkg | gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 64 (sarge), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
| 04:27.09 | jetscreamer | !info gnome etch |
| 04:27.15 | dpkg | gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.12.3 (etch), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
| 04:27.26 | jetscreamer | i won't bother |
| 04:27.40 | ekim | gnome- after unpacking 653 megabytes of additional disk spaccw will be used ... |
| 04:27.43 | ekim | its that big |
| 04:27.47 | BlackJud1s | evaded, err, I don't have another user on here. I'll add one, just for shits and giggles. |
| 04:27.52 | jetscreamer | i told you bloat |
| 04:28.07 | ekim | bloated it right lol ... should have picked fluxbox ...Nice and light |
| 04:28.10 | jetscreamer | try apt-get install gnome-core gnome-desktop instead if you like |
| 04:28.11 | evaded | BlackJud1s: Just test to see if it's an general or user trouble |
| 04:28.15 | jetscreamer | you can cancel |
| 04:28.18 | jetscreamer | ctrl c |
| 04:28.29 | BlackJud1s | crap... nevermind, I'll have to disconnect and all that fun sstuff. |
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| 04:28.33 | BlackJud1s | too much. |
| 04:28.40 | evaded | !install gnome |
| 04:28.40 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 04:28.41 | BlackJud1s | I can run the commands from a terminal |
| 04:28.47 | Roots | I'm having trouble compiling a qt program that my friend wrote. Specifically, when linking it complains that: `/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt` |
| 04:28.54 | evaded | ekim: Look here above |
| 04:28.54 | ekim | thats much better |
| 04:28.57 | jetscreamer | what the bot said |
| 04:29.03 | Roots | Am I missing a QT package, or does Debian have some special setup? |
| 04:29.09 | ekim | 19.8 megabytes of additional disk space will be used |
| 04:29.13 | ekim | lol |
| 04:29.17 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:29.28 | ekim | fluxbox .... |
| 04:30.08 | evaded | Roots: The qt dev files installed? |
| 04:30.18 | Roots | Yeah, I'm pretty sure they are |
| 04:30.25 | blaheva | I'm running Debian on a sparcstation, I acess it using VNC only. what is the best version of vnc to use for this (sparcstations are slow) and which settings could help improve the speed (network isn't a problem, the power of the sparcstation is) |
| 04:30.27 | Roots | I mean the C++ files compiled to object files fine |
| 04:30.36 | ekim | "cannot connect to x server make sure you have started x before you run fluxbox " |
| 04:30.42 | ekim | do I have to install x ? |
| 04:31.03 | evaded | ekim: Like dpkg have say you |
| 04:31.09 | ekim | ? |
| 04:31.28 | ekim | All I remember is you talking about asses and fingers and shit |
| 04:31.35 | ekim | lol |
| 04:32.07 | ekim | what is the command to install x ? |
| 04:32.15 | evaded | ekim: Scroll a bit back to look the last message of dpkg |
| 04:32.24 | ekim | I looked at all of them |
| 04:32.27 | ekim | nothing on x at all |
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| 04:32.43 | rock8 | good evening |
| 04:32.44 | evaded | !tell ekim about set up x |
| 04:33.02 | ekim | there we go |
| 04:33.06 | ekim | thats it |
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| 04:33.14 | evaded | ekim: yup ;-) |
| 04:33.16 | ekim | I was just looking for the package name |
| 04:33.17 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:33.30 | evaded | ekim: I wanted to sleep, i'm again another round |
| 04:33.31 | rock8 | stupid question: I just set up Debian, and things are working okay, but in order to get the sound working on a thinkpad, I need to edit the kernal. Problem is, I can't locate the @$^!#!@$ kernal ! |
| 04:33.31 | bengrubb | hey do any of you know about a free package for debian that can turn debian into a gateway like ISP's use for bandwidth control and management? |
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| 04:33.51 | ekim | 88 megabytes ....man .... |
| 04:34.04 | evaded | ekim: 56k or so? |
| 04:34.17 | ekim | yeah...lol right... |
| 04:34.31 | evaded | ekim: Have you not an friend ...? |
| 04:34.34 | ekim | I download linux distros on a 56k for fun |
| 04:34.41 | ekim | lol |
| 04:34.51 | bengrubb | oh gawd |
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| 04:34.56 | bengrubb | how slow |
| 04:35.02 | ekim | It was a joke |
| 04:35.04 | bengrubb | 1.5megabits is da best |
| 04:35.10 | ekim | 10 mb here |
| 04:35.14 | bengrubb | in australia |
| 04:35.15 | bengrubb | i hate you |
| 04:35.21 | bengrubb | australia is so slow... |
| 04:35.27 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.37 | ekim | well... mostly |
| 04:35.38 | bengrubb | heh no only in sydney |
| 04:35.49 | ekim | 1.5 is nto too bad |
| 04:35.51 | bengrubb | im in queensland (the pint bit on the right) |
| 04:35.58 | bengrubb | pointy* |
| 04:36.00 | unstable | How can I send a message to another user on a debian system? |
| 04:36.04 | ekim | austrailia is cool |
| 04:36.09 | bengrubb | soon we will be getting 24mbs |
| 04:36.10 | unstable | I am remotely connected, it's "talk" but how? |
| 04:36.14 | bengrubb | with adsl2+ |
| 04:36.24 | bengrubb | australia is hot |
| 04:36.25 | ekim | nice |
| 04:36.30 | Rizzer | I already got adsl2+ here in canberra. it's good :) |
| 04:36.35 | evaded | unstable: email lol |
| 04:36.36 | bengrubb | i hhhhhaaate u |
| 04:36.41 | bengrubb | dam u |
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| 04:36.50 | Rizzer | though I'm too far away, I only get 2-3Mbps |
| 04:36.56 | ekim | is that a joke or did you not understand the sense of the word I was using |
| 04:37.00 | bengrubb | queensland is so slow at getting adsl2+ up and running |
| 04:37.04 | evaded | unstable: You mean somethings like 'net send ...' |
| 04:37.15 | bengrubb | net send is cool |
| 04:37.21 | bengrubb | net send * is better |
| 04:37.44 | unstable | no, I am on a box with someone else, my user is foobar, their username is foobar2, how can I talk to them on this box? |
| 04:37.49 | unstable | We are in terminals via shs. |
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| 04:38.07 | bengrubb | oh yer where was i before i got angry with bandwidth... |
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| 04:38.15 | bengrubb | do any of you know about a free package for debian that can turn debian into a gateway like ISP's use for bandwidth control and management? |
| 04:38.17 | blaheva | mesg, talk |
| 04:38.24 | ekim | hey..I was wondeing ...What exactly is the "original" linux ( like the one linus torvolds wrote ) |
| 04:38.32 | ekim | and......I totaly butchered his last name |
| 04:38.41 | ekim | ooo |
| 04:39.04 | ekim | COLOR ....woot ...X server configuration ... its a gui yay |
| 04:39.24 | evaded | unstable: The question are insteresting but i not know but i really think you need somethings like on that M$ 'net send computername "I biep bill"' |
| 04:39.34 | rock8 | stupid question: I just set up Debian, and things are working okay, but in order to get the sound working on a thinkpad, I need to edit the kernal. Problem is, I can't locate the @$^!#!@$ kernal ! |
| 04:40.11 | bengrubb | so anyone know a free distribution that can turn a comp into a gateway that can do bandwidth shapping etc ? |
| 04:40.12 | ekim | The kernal isnt in one placwe |
| 04:40.22 | ekim | probably |
| 04:40.24 | rock8 | ekim, so how do I modify it |
| 04:40.26 | evaded | bengrubb: Debia |
| 04:40.28 | evaded | bengrubb: Debian |
| 04:40.35 | bengrubb | im using debian |
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| 04:40.41 | ekim | you cant modify it drectly .... cany you ? |
| 04:40.44 | bengrubb | but what packages do i need to install |
| 04:40.47 | ekim | its like the windows registry |
| 04:40.53 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.59 | ekim | You gotta sue a program |
| 04:41.09 | ekim | use |
| 04:41.10 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.13 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.19 | evaded | bengrubb: I can advies you to look on TLDP |
| 04:41.24 | bengrubb | evaded: I use debian, so which packages do i need |
| 04:41.26 | bengrubb | ok |
| 04:41.28 | evaded | !tlpd |
| 04:41.32 | rock8 | but the linux kernal program in "control center" say that there are no "sources" in /usr/src/linux |
| 04:41.37 | evaded | !tldp |
| 04:41.38 | dpkg | methinks tldp is The Linux Documentation Project at http://www.tldp.org |
| 04:41.47 | bengrubb | yes me is looking |
| 04:42.17 | ekim | you dont relize how much you rely on guis until there gone ...and you have to do the work yourself instead of peple giving you nice little buttons |
| 04:42.28 | _Gandalf_ | rock8: have you downloaded linux-headers-`uname -r` ? |
| 04:42.29 | bengrubb | heh |
| 04:42.33 | bengrubb | i love guis |
| 04:42.38 | SimonRaven | !kernal |
| 04:42.39 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 04:42.41 | ekim | who doesent |
| 04:42.52 | rock8 | kernel |
| 04:42.53 | rock8 | yes |
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| 04:43.02 | bengrubb | programmers maybe well i have a friend who hates guis |
| 04:43.07 | ekim | O btw Im installing linux in a virtual machine ... that wont affect anythingwill it ? |
| 04:43.08 | rock8 | but that doesn't help me. |
| 04:43.09 | bengrubb | i hate him 4 that |
| 04:43.17 | ekim | Im not sure I wanna make the jump to linux yet |
| 04:43.28 | _Gandalf_ | rock8: then ln -sf /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux |
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| 04:44.07 | rock8 | _Gandalf_, no, I guess I should be putting that in /usr/srv/linux, right ? |
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| 04:44.20 | ekim | fatal IO error connection reset by peers |
| 04:44.23 | ekim | whats that mean |
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| 04:44.33 | ekim | I know its bad ...But how do I fix it |
| 04:44.34 | _Gandalf_ | rc |
| 04:44.48 | _Gandalf_ | rock8: /srv ??? WT.. no /usr/src/linux |
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| 04:45.45 | ekim | whats the configuration command for x |
| 04:45.55 | Trixy | hmm. I am using a wireless device with ndiswrapper, and Kismet can't stand that. Do any of you have suggestions as to other programs to use to fill that void? |
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| 04:45.58 | dn4 | http://dna.cyberia-archives.com/GabrielandDresden-TrackingTreasureDown(DisappearingwithDNAFAST).ogg |
| 04:46.22 | dn4 | check out the latest edit I am doing for a remix competition using linux :) |
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| 04:47.42 | bengrubb | never been on tldp before where do i search its confusing me argh |
| 04:47.52 | ekim | will someone help em |
| 04:47.56 | ekim | *me |
| 04:48.15 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: what's wrong ? |
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| 04:49.39 | ekim | I cant get x workign |
| 04:49.50 | cheal | !drxx ekim |
| 04:49.51 | dpkg | ekim: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 04:49.51 | ekim | Im getting fatal errors when I try to start x |
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| 04:50.31 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: fatal error, hmmm explain more, maybe pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 04:50.35 | ekim | I installed x windows |
| 04:50.43 | ekim | Im guessign thats a lot different than x server |
| 04:50.49 | miki2 | hmmm... i copied directory from ntfs but i couldnt execute script(no access), so i added -rw-rw-rw with chmod, but its still exacly same.. any help? |
| 04:51.06 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: x windows ... what's the package name again ? |
| 04:51.17 | ekim | hmm |
| 04:51.18 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.27 | ekim | x-window-system |
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| 04:51.40 | cheal | !xwindows |
| 04:51.41 | dpkg | somebody said xwindows was NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, The X Window System, X11R6, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap |
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| 04:51.49 | _Gandalf_ | miki2: chmod -R a+rwx folder |
| 04:52.01 | ekim | so |
| 04:52.07 | ekim | I need to install x server |
| 04:52.10 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.11 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: hold on |
| 04:52.36 | ekim | are there any arguments for startx |
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| 04:53.39 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: the package xserver-xorg is installed ? |
| 04:53.49 | ekim | no ... I dont think so |
| 04:53.51 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: yes but they are not needed |
| 04:53.52 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.58 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: then install it |
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| 04:55.03 | ekim | couldent find package |
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| 04:55.14 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: install it |
| 04:55.17 | tuv | is anyone having system freeze problems with smartmontools |
| 04:55.19 | tuv | ? |
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| 04:55.31 | ekim | I just said...cant find packag |
| 04:55.35 | tuv | debian/testing? |
| 04:55.38 | ekim | Im quoting debian heere |
| 04:55.45 | ekim | It says cant find package |
| 04:56.14 | Roots | I figured out my QT compilation problem. -lqt needed to be -lqt-mt because I have the multithreaded lib installed |
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| 04:57.04 | ekim | wait |
| 04:57.05 | ekim | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:57.07 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: u're testing? stable? what u use ? |
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| 04:57.25 | ekim | I have whatever Was on debian.org |
| 04:57.31 | Phated | Heh. |
| 04:57.37 | ekim | I got stable not rc |
| 04:57.39 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: can u please put my nick in the message when u send me one, i can't know which one is for me |
| 04:57.48 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: hold on |
| 04:57.54 | ekim | I can do better |
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| 04:57.59 | tonsofpcs | Anyone here know how to get debian installed on an Alpha with ARC (with milo) and want to walk me through the whole thing? It's an EB164 with IDE HDD controller (i'll stick a hdd in when needed, meanwhile i can make FAT partition and shove stuff onto it), floppy drive, and IDE attached cdrom |
| 04:58.41 | _Gandalf_ | ekim: u dont have "xserver-xorg" ??? :O have u done apt-get update ?? |
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| 05:00.19 | coywolf | where to customize the nautilus open with menu? |
| 05:00.21 | _Gandalf_ | ek1m-: then try xserver-xfree86 |
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| 05:08.51 | xomhau | hi |
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| 05:08.54 | ek1m- | helo |
| 05:08.55 | Stevie | 250 Stevie |
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| 05:09.39 | wmhtet | do you guy have problem upgrading to NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1 ? |
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| 05:10.55 | wmhtet | I am having error "Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'...or if a driver such as |
| 05:10.55 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.55 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.17 | wmhtet | how can I resolve that? |
| 05:14.13 | cheal | !tell wmhtet about nvidia-installer |
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| 05:16.18 | wmhtet | thx cheal |
| 05:16.32 | Linuhx | yay, abrotman isnt here :D |
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| 05:17.37 | RainbowW | how does one make cron stop sending emails all the frickin time? |
| 05:17.50 | Linuhx | apt-get remove --purge cron |
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| 05:18.03 | RainbowW | Linuhx: overkill. please try again. |
| 05:18.40 | Linuhx | RainbowW: CD to cron files, ./cron-stop-with-the-god-damn-emails-you-bastard-program |
| 05:18.44 | threat | hey, is there a visio type program for linux / debian? |
| 05:18.50 | Linuhx | yes |
| 05:20.31 | RainbowW | could you be less helpful? |
| 05:20.53 | Linuhx | hmm..now that's a good question |
| 05:20.57 | Linuhx | !help |
| 05:21.35 | dondelelcaro | RainbowW: use MAILTO="" or redirect the output to /dev/null |
| 05:21.40 | dondelelcaro | RainbowW: man 5 crontab; for details. |
| 05:22.02 | cheal | threat: see wikipedia |
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| 05:24.01 | SimonRaven | oh yeh, some luser (i mean local user) is going to cd to /var/spool/cron/$user and touch that file. sure ... |
| 05:24.21 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: uh.. they can't. |
| 05:24.43 | dondelelcaro | crontab is setuid cron |
| 05:25.04 | dondelelcaro | s/setuid/setgid/ s/cron/crontab/ |
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| 05:31.42 | pilgrim | Has anyone used jailtool ? |
| 05:32.04 | miki2 | how can i check if i have pppoatm set up correctly? |
| 05:32.05 | threat | cheal, ok |
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| 05:32.21 | threat | cheal, so you don't know the answer to my question? |
| 05:32.53 | cheal | threat: the answer to your question is yes |
| 05:33.02 | threat | thanx |
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| 05:35.49 | threat | cheal, umm can you be a little more helpful? |
| 05:36.03 | Cowman | btw, folks I fixed my nvidia probelm |
| 05:36.13 | Cowman | # rm /usr/lib/libGL* |
| 05:36.31 | Cowman | # sh ./nvidiainstallername.run |
| 05:36.37 | Cowman | and that did it |
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| 05:37.22 | cheal | threat: which pages did you check on Wikipedia? |
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| 05:38.00 | BlackJud1s | Cowman, use the nvidia-* packages? |
| 05:38.15 | Cowman | nope, I have etch. I can't |
| 05:38.31 | Cowman | the nvidia installer works fine if you delete those files |
| 05:38.53 | BlackJud1s | aye |
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| 05:39.09 | BlackJud1s | etch will install nvidia drivers ... probably not the newest version though |
| 05:39.23 | Cowman | the pacakges arn't in apt right now |
| 05:39.43 | Cowman | some bug problem with xorg drivers, someone else explained it to me |
| 05:39.45 | lekvar | can anyone point me in the right direction to find out how to make my usb mouse work? how about the tilt feature on the scrollwheel? |
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| 05:44.45 | evilgeek | what is the recommended free-software xv replacement? |
| 05:45.17 | Solet | trying to get a Broadcom bcm440 ethernet card (module name: BCM4401-B0) working... but modprobe is jerking me around... i read that it should be on kernel 2.6 but i keep getting "FATAL: Module BCM4401_B0 not found." why is it changing the '-' to a '_' and should the module be there or not? |
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| 05:46.37 | Gnea | evilgeek: feh |
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| 05:47.34 | miki2 | how can i check if i have pppoatm set up correctly? |
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| 05:48.22 | SimonRaven | fuck. oh! :) |
| 05:48.57 | Gnea | miki2: can you ping anything? |
| 05:49.29 | miki2 | Gnea: nope, nothing |
| 05:49.32 | jstevens | I'm using openjade1.3 to generate html from an DocBook xml source. As soon as I run openjade I receive a segfault. Any thoughts? |
| 05:49.42 | Den | Hi - In Etch on a Sony Vaio Laptop the mouse acceleration os not working through KDE control panel - mouse is too slow - any suggestions? Also tapping on the touchpad doesn't cause selection of the pointed to items. Any suggestions? |
| 05:49.51 | miki2 | Gnea: but when i ran install script, modem detected my internet speed, so something works |
| 05:49.56 | Gnea | jstevens: sounds like a piece of crap |
| 05:50.00 | xomhau | anyone, i want to paste output's command here , what need i do? |
| 05:50.29 | miki2 | Gnea: i got PPPoATM compiled inside kernel, should i recompile and try as module? |
| 05:50.31 | Gnea | miki2: so it was able to get an ip and you can ping yahoo.com and connect to irc and whatnot? |
| 05:50.40 | miki2 | Gnea: nope, no ip |
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| 05:50.58 | Gnea | miki2: that would probably be a good idea - i used to do pppoe and dialup and doing it as modules is the only way it would work |
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| 05:51.24 | miki2 | Gnea: heh, sounds crappy, but ok... will take some time tho :( |
| 05:51.43 | Gnea | miki2: go make a pizza or something ;) |
| 05:51.47 | jstevens | gnea: Yep, it does seem like a piece of crap. However, I need some tool to generate DocBook output. |
| 05:52.07 | miki2 | Gnea: hehe, i will watch movie, cya |
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| 05:52.11 | unstable | What is a good web service software that I can use to manage pre-existing mail lists, something ajax maybe..sort of like gmail, so I can open/close tab emails and things like this. |
| 05:52.27 | unstable | ANyone know or use any softwares with similar functionality like this? |
| 05:52.34 | Gnea | jstevens: i've never used it. but are you able to get some sort of debugging info other than just 'Segmentation Fault'? |
| 05:52.51 | gentgeen__ | xomhau, use #flood is one option |
| 05:53.00 | gentgeen__ | see topic |
| 05:53.25 | Gnea | jstevens: have you tried just openjade? |
| 05:54.06 | jstevens | Gnea: Turning debugging on doesn't provide any output. I could use gdb to see what's going on. Yes, I've tried just openjade. |
| 05:54.08 | Gnea | unstable: you just want a web-based email interface? |
| 05:54.09 | xomhau | gentgeen__: thank |
| 05:54.51 | Gnea | jstevens: between gdb and strace, you may be able to figure something out... that's about as much as i can help ya |
| 05:55.26 | jstevens | Gnea: Thanks, I'll poke around and see if I can drum something up. |
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| 05:55.39 | Gnea | jstevens: good luck |
| 05:56.06 | Solet | trying to get a Broadcom bcm440 ethernet card (module name: BCM4401-B0) working... but modprobe is jerking me around... i read that it should be on kernel 2.6 but i keep getting "FATAL: Module BCM4401_B0 not found." why is it changing the '-' to a '_' and should the module be there or not? |
| 05:56.15 | unstable | Gnea: yea, but something half decent |
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| 05:56.32 | unstable | Gnea: not like debian-legal where there is an archive.txt for each month, and you just scroll the whole damn thing |
| 05:56.33 | Gnea | Solet: what chipset is your card using? |
| 05:56.39 | tonsofpcs | Woody = 3.0 right? |
| 05:56.50 | cshaman | Ahoy. |
| 05:57.04 | unstable | !greet cshaman |
| 05:57.05 | dpkg | Salutations, cshaman |
| 05:57.15 | Gnea | tonsofpcs: yes |
| 05:57.24 | Solet | gnea: bcm440 |
| 05:57.53 | Gnea | unstable: tried horde? |
| 05:58.03 | tonsofpcs | thanks ;) |
| 05:58.21 | unstable | Gnea: I havne't tried anything, I saw like 20 different programs from apt-cache search, and i didn't feel like doing test drives. So I figured I would see what was popular in here. |
| 05:58.25 | unstable | And I know about popcon. |
| 05:58.52 | tonsofpcs | do i really need all 7 CDs for woody for alpha? |
| 05:59.12 | Gnea | Solet: are you using sarge? |
| 05:59.16 | unstable | tonsofpcs: Why are you installing woody? |
| 05:59.19 | teledyn | hello, i want to file a bug report. when i startx using the nvidia driver (1.0.8756-4 in sid) the screen goes blank and the system seems to be frozen. ctrl-alt-backspace does nothing. the last entry in Xorg.log is: (II) Initializing extension GLX |
| 05:59.35 | Gnea | !bts |
| 05:59.35 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 05:59.36 | evilgeek | Gnea: thanks. |
| 05:59.37 | unstable | teledyn: That bug report was already filed, check the bts. |
| 05:59.37 | teledyn | with the nv driver xorg starts fine |
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| 05:59.45 | unstable | !tell teledyn about unstable |
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| 05:59.57 | teledyn | unstable: yeah, what would it be under. nothing under nvidia-glx nor nvidia-kernel-source... |
| 06:00.04 | Gnea | wow, i don't even know why i was thanked heh |
| 06:00.40 | unstable | Gnea: Because you told him about feh |
| 06:00.43 | Gnea | Solet: is that a gigabit card or 10/100? |
| 06:00.45 | teledyn | unstable: ? |
| 06:00.54 | Gnea | oh yeah |
| 06:01.03 | Gnea | long night |
| 06:01.21 | teledyn | unstable: yeah, what would it be under in BTS then? nothing under nvidia-glx nor nvidia-kernel-source... |
| 06:01.48 | Gnea | Solet: also, if you do a lspci -v, what are the first 2 lines that are reported for the device? |
| 06:02.32 | teledyn | would you know, or just out pontificating for the evening against people using sid? |
| 06:02.38 | teledyn | thanks |
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| 06:02.49 | Gnea | hey now |
| 06:02.51 | Gnea | i use sid |
| 06:03.23 | tonsofpcs | unstable - I'm installing woody because Sarge install won't boot from milo on AlphaBiOS/ARC, you need to do a full install of woody then an inplace upgrade for sarge |
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| 06:03.46 | Gnea | tonsofpcs: that sounds like a bug to me |
| 06:04.11 | tonsofpcs | Gnea - it's not a bug, there's plenty of notes about it in the docs |
| 06:04.28 | Gnea | tonsofpcs: oh? |
| 06:04.29 | LinuxHelp | http://pastebin.com/676404 am I missing a package? |
| 06:04.58 | Gnea | LinuxHelp: you need the readline perl module |
| 06:05.20 | Gnea | LinuxHelp: probably libterm-readline-perl-perl |
| 06:05.46 | LinuxHelp | libterm-readline-perl-perl - Perl implementation of Readline libraries |
| 06:05.55 | Gnea | there ya go |
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| 06:07.34 | liable | theres another lightweight photo viewer thats nice, but i cant remember the name. ideas? |
| 06:07.49 | Gnea | stick a monkey's tail in a light socket |
| 06:09.03 | LinuxHelp | Gnea: thx |
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| 06:11.52 | cshaman | I would like to uninstall KDE and Gnome, but keep the parts of those systems that are important to other programs, ie. GIMP uses GTK. How might I do this? |
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| 06:12.28 | wobbler | liable, feh is what i like |
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| 06:15.21 | miki2 | Gnea: u there? |
| 06:15.36 | miki2 | strange thing, but in my kernel config i dont see PPP over ATM at all |
| 06:15.46 | miki2 | i see PPP over Ethernet but no ATM |
| 06:15.47 | miki2 | wtf? |
| 06:16.06 | Gnea | miki2: what kernel? |
| 06:16.30 | miki2 | 2.6.16.9 |
| 06:16.33 | cheal | cshaman: GNOME and KDE shouldn't be important to the GIMP |
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| 06:17.23 | cshaman | cheal: Removing the KDE and Gnome will not affect programs that rely on GTK etc.? |
| 06:18.41 | cheal | cshaman: I can't talk for etc, but for GTK, no |
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| 06:18.48 | cshaman | :) |
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| 06:21.51 | mynullvoid | hi all |
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| 06:25.18 | mynullvoid | gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net |
| 06:25.18 | mynullvoid | gpg: keyserver timed out |
| 06:25.19 | mynullvoid | gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error |
| 06:25.24 | mynullvoid | any idea? |
| 06:25.33 | Gnea | 23:25 < mynullvoid> gpg: keyserver timed out |
| 06:25.41 | mynullvoid | yeah |
| 06:25.57 | mynullvoid | Gnea: where else to get the key? |
| 06:26.13 | Gnea | --- subkeys.pgp.net ping statistics --- |
| 06:26.14 | Gnea | 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms |
| 06:26.20 | Gnea | mynullvoid: nfc |
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| 06:27.16 | Gnea | mynullvoid: but you know what, just try it again, it's on round-robin |
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| 06:27.42 | mynullvoid | Gnea: tried twice ;) |
| 06:27.52 | Gnea | mynullvoid: that's not enough. you need to try at least 10 times. |
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| 06:28.01 | mynullvoid | ha ha ha |
| 06:28.03 | mynullvoid | lol |
| 06:28.05 | Gnea | i'm not kidding |
| 06:28.07 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:28.11 | mynullvoid | heh |
| 06:28.23 | Gnea | laugh it up - try it 10 times and tell me it didn't connect once. |
| 06:29.04 | tirkal | hi. I have some crashed SSH sessions I suspect to be still running in the backgroud. any advice on finding + terminating them? |
| 06:29.29 | tirkal | I read http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/261 about killing Zombie processes, but appearantly they're not Zombies. |
| 06:30.23 | tirkal | I don't have any processes with status "Z". I do, however, have two sshd processes with status "S". |
| 06:30.23 | Gnea | tirkal: kill -9 `ps axf | grep ssh\ | awk '{print $1}'` |
| 06:30.39 | Gnea | tirkal: make *SURE* you do it as ssh\ and not ssh |
| 06:31.16 | Gnea | careful, that'll knock out every currently running ssh connection (if you do it as root) |
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| 06:31.34 | tirkal | Gnea: thing is, in those SSH sessions I started some other processes. |
| 06:31.46 | tirkal | and they weren't terminated as well. |
| 06:31.54 | Gnea | tirkal: have you ever used screen? |
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| 06:32.16 | tirkal | Gnea: yeah, but I don't think I'll install it on that server. |
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| 06:32.25 | scOrpiOnn | hi, one question -> amd64 + adaptec 2110s + hdd ultra320 scsi : here is the result -> Timing buffered disk reads: 8 MB in 3.30 seconds = 2.42 MB/sec . how i perform the speed? is not normal... |
| 06:32.33 | Gnea | tirkal: okay, well that's your problem then :) |
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| 06:32.48 | tirkal | Gnea: is there any way to recognize all the processes that were started in those crashed SSH sessions? |
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| 06:33.09 | tirkal | will they have status S? or any other recognizable trait? |
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| 06:33.36 | Gnea | well anything that's still technically running would have S+ or something like that |
| 06:33.55 | tirkal | so there's basically no way to know... |
| 06:34.05 | Gnea | you'd have to remember |
| 06:34.16 | Gnea | unless you have current ssh connections |
| 06:34.29 | tirkal | hm? |
| 06:34.37 | tirkal | I'm connecting through SSH right now. |
| 06:34.49 | tirkal | this is a dedicated server I'm (trying to) remotely manage. |
| 06:35.02 | tirkal | (that's why I can't kill all the sshds) |
| 06:35.09 | Gnea | then match up which tty you're good connections are on and through process of elimination, with just ps axf | grep ssh\ , you can see which ones you want to and don't want to kill |
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| 06:35.50 | tirkal | Gnea: ok... generally, how many sshd processes are supposed to be running? |
| 06:36.05 | tirkal | just one (the one I'm connecting to)? |
| 06:36.18 | Gnea | tirkal: one base, and one for every incoming connection |
| 06:36.24 | Gnea | but not for outgoing |
| 06:36.53 | tirkal | outgoing use the same base processes? |
| 06:37.03 | Gnea | no, outgoing just uses the ssh client |
| 06:37.13 | tirkal | in any case I have 3 running, so I probably have 2 lingering from the crashes. |
| 06:37.20 | Gnea | probably |
| 06:37.22 | Gnea | :) |
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| 06:37.27 | liable | well, gqview is very similar to the one i was thinking of, so it will do.. |
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| 06:37.31 | tirkal | Gnea: thanks for your help. |
| 06:37.40 | Gnea | tirkal: you're welcome |
| 06:37.44 | ben | Is it possible to easily change from sarge to etch by simply changing repositories and updating? |
| 06:37.56 | ben | or upgrading, rather |
| 06:38.02 | Gnea | ben: yes..and yes |
| 06:38.35 | ben | Gnea: Excellent. Is this documented anywhere, as in, what repos to use? |
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| 06:38.50 | Gnea | !sarge->etch |
| 06:38.58 | Gnea | uhm |
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| 06:39.28 | Gnea | !stable->testing |
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| 06:39.55 | BlackJud1s | What's the best package for a remote backup solution? |
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| 06:40.11 | Gnea | !tell ben about stable->testing |
| 06:40.24 | ben | Awesome. Thanks for that. |
| 06:40.29 | Gnea | no prob |
| 06:40.36 | Gnea | BlackJud1s: rsync |
| 06:40.38 | tonsofpcs | !tell tonsofpcs about stable->testing |
| 06:41.06 | BlackJud1s | Gnea, rsync == shit =D |
| 06:41.31 | Gnea | BlackJud1s: lack of knowledge is not an excuse for hate :) |
| 06:42.04 | ben | I think because I installed with a CD I'm missing some repos. |
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| 06:42.32 | ben | I only have security and my CD. |
| 06:43.04 | liable | ben: before you upgrade, run apt-setup, pick some mirrors then edit the file |
| 06:43.17 | ben | liable: Cool. Cheers. |
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| 06:44.38 | Gnea | BlackJud1s: there's also unison, but it's worse than rsync - you may not agree ;) |
| 06:44.55 | BlackJud1s | Gnea, dude, I use rsync to backup over 18 machines, hand-written backup solution which handles files using hard links to save space... etc. I know what I'm talking about. What I'm asking, is if there's a good canned solution provided via debian. |
| 06:45.00 | isaeso | hi, how to change the default schema of konsole? i have tried selecting a schema, say, green on black, and then click 'save as default'. It doesn't work. |
| 06:45.21 | BlackJud1s | Fine, I'll take it back, rsync == good, but it's not what I'm hunting for. |
| 06:45.53 | Gnea | BlackJud1s: nope, debian provides a variety of solutions for various activities, there's no one-size-fits-all, but most of us use and trust rsync |
| 06:46.15 | BlackJud1s | Indeed. |
| 06:46.20 | Gnea | apt-cache search file backup <-- lots of stuff |
| 06:46.28 | BlackJud1s | Hrrm, rdiff-backup looks interesting. |
| 06:46.36 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:46.49 | BlackJud1s | Yep, done that, way too many solutions, and so I asked here. |
| 06:47.05 | BlackJud1s | but... rdiff-backup isn't available in amd64 |
| 06:47.07 | Gnea | it really depends on what you're doing |
| 06:47.07 | BlackJud1s | super... |
| 06:47.13 | Gnea | aaaah |
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| 06:47.24 | BlackJud1s | remote daily backups |
| 06:47.28 | noisy_1 | hello |
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| 06:47.48 | noisy_1 | Can I please get some help with Samba server on Debian? |
| 06:48.08 | Gnea | !samba |
| 06:48.08 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file and print sharing (the SMB protocol), a good tutorial in English can be found at http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/toc.html , or http://www.samba.org , or #samba, or read O'Reilly's book online (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html) |
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| 06:48.18 | Gnea | !ask |
| 06:48.19 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 06:48.55 | alder_ | hola |
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| 06:49.11 | Gnea | BlackJud1s: heh, i haven't upgraded my amd64 box in awhile |
| 06:49.13 | Gnea | 163 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 28 not upgraded. |
| 06:49.13 | Gnea | Need to get 89.2MB of archives. |
| 06:49.48 | BlackJud1s | Make sure you change your sources.list :) |
| 06:49.56 | BlackJud1s | Otherwise you'll experience a lot of pain. |
| 06:49.58 | noisy_1 | How do I edit the samba.conf in CLI? |
| 06:50.00 | Gnea | why's that? |
| 06:50.00 | Solet | hey is there a way to see what is using a device when i get the "device is busy" while trying to umount? |
| 06:50.03 | isaeso | no one can tell me how to set a default konsole schema? |
| 06:50.32 | dark_light | is there any good way to transform a mp3 into ogg without losing quality? (it would be nice if i don't need to pass through wav) |
| 06:50.43 | noisy_1 | dark, you dont |
| 06:50.47 | Gnea | noisy_1: with a text editor, such as nano or vim |
| 06:50.53 | BlackJud1s | Gnea, amd64 became official. If you run sid, it'll break if you use the old mirrors. |
| 06:50.54 | noisy_1 | What would be the command? |
| 06:51.02 | Gnea | dark_light: you could try audacity |
| 06:51.07 | BlackJud1s | Gnea, you need to use an official mirror, to get binary packages. |
| 06:51.10 | Gnea | noisy_1: i just said what they are |
| 06:51.32 | Gnea | BlackJud1s: ooooh, thanks! i missed that... |
| 06:51.54 | Gnea | debian.csail.mit.edu is no longer official then, huh |
| 06:52.24 | BlackJud1s | nope |
| 06:52.39 | BlackJud1s | and you'll bang your head against the desk wondering why package x is not installable etc. |
| 06:52.46 | Gnea | dark_light: i don't know how badly the loss would be, but you'd take a hit one way or another, but i've had good experience with it :) |
| 06:52.53 | BlackJud1s | I even started building my own packages from source. Man that was fun. |
| 06:52.55 | Gnea | hehehe |
| 06:52.59 | Gnea | !beer BlackJud1s |
| 06:53.27 | dark_light | Gnea, hmmm.. |
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| 06:53.38 | BlackJud1s | Then I got the "are you using the official mirrors" ... "no.. why?" .... "hahahahhahahaha!!!!1111" |
| 06:53.50 | dark_light | Gnea, audacity is text-based, or graphical? |
| 06:53.51 | htrp | i accidentally deleted 'apache2-default', is there any way to get this back? |
| 06:54.02 | dark_light | i want a simple ogg2mp3, to do like: ogg2mp3 /mp3/* |
| 06:54.04 | Gnea | dark_light: gui |
| 06:54.15 | dark_light | i meant mp32ogg |
| 06:54.15 | dark_light | :) |
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| 06:54.55 | paulliu | Is there anyway to make one debian machine to install same packages which are installed in another debian machine? |
| 06:55.06 | Solet | how can i see what processes are using a particular device? say... hda2? |
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| 06:55.46 | nkuttler | paulliu: what do you mean? use the packages or the package list? |
| 06:55.49 | Gnea | Solet: lsof | grep <\/mountpoint for hda2> |
| 06:56.17 | paulliu | nkuttler: package list, I want some machines to have same package list (installed).. |
| 06:56.19 | Gnea | dark_light: hold on, i have it done like halfway, but it does involve converting to wav first... |
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| 06:56.29 | Gnea | dark_light: i have an actual mp32wav script ;) |
| 06:56.45 | nkuttler | paulliu: dpkg --get-selections and --set-selections |
| 06:57.08 | paulliu | nkuttler: thanks.. |
| 06:57.21 | cheal | !tell paulliu about selections |
| 06:58.03 | noisy_1 | How do I set folder permissions in smb.conf? |
| 06:58.32 | Gnea | noisy_1: install swat |
| 06:58.33 | Gnea | !swat |
| 06:58.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 06:58.54 | noisy_1 | do I need apache? |
| 06:59.00 | Gnea | yes |
| 06:59.05 | noisy_1 | :( |
| 06:59.18 | Gnea | actually |
| 06:59.19 | Gnea | no |
| 06:59.21 | Gnea | sorry |
| 06:59.25 | noisy_1 | yay |
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| 06:59.36 | noisy_1 | apt-get swat? |
| 06:59.43 | noisy_1 | ah.. install |
| 06:59.44 | noisy_1 | sorry |
| 06:59.45 | Gnea | c'mon |
| 06:59.48 | Gnea | :) |
| 07:00.32 | Solet | how can i see what is using the drive i'm trying to umount? |
| 07:00.54 | noisy_1 | didn't some one say "Solet: lsof | grep <\/mountpoint for hda2>"? |
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| 07:01.20 | Gnea | like, lsof | grep \/usr |
| 07:02.39 | usn | good morning |
| 07:02.54 | alder_ | hola |
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| 07:03.01 | alder_ | hello |
| 07:03.40 | TTT | Solet: fuser -m |
| 07:03.49 | Solet | noisy_1:sorry didn't see that thank you |
| 07:04.13 | TTT | Solet: fuser -km also kills 'em |
| 07:04.21 | wmhtet | ok, now I successfully updated my nvidia driver but I lost some setting for twin view |
| 07:04.43 | wmhtet | the applications are spanning across two monitors |
| 07:05.07 | Gnea | wmhtet: #nvidia |
| 07:05.11 | TTT | quick question, is x11r7 broken ir sid, or can I at least try installing it? |
| 07:05.13 | wmhtet | before it will only fill up one monitor when I maximize it |
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| 07:05.35 | noisy_1 | Linux makes my brain hurt! |
| 07:05.44 | Gnea | noisy_1: good! |
| 07:05.49 | streuner_ | TTT: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 07:06.01 | liable | noisy_1: quite normal :) |
| 07:06.08 | Gnea | noisy_1: i mean, take 4 cds and call us in the morning ;) |
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| 07:06.36 | TTT | i know the answers, i'm just curios if anyone here is successfully running x11r7. Oh, what the hell, i'll try it |
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| 07:07.01 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.05 | noisy_1 | Windows: ipconfig = _____? :Linux |
| 07:07.11 | TTT | noisy_1: ifconfig |
| 07:07.14 | streuner_ | gravity fixed almost everything in short time, it runs here fine |
| 07:07.14 | wmhtet | ifconfig |
| 07:07.15 | liable | TTT: check the /topic |
| 07:07.18 | noisy_1 | ty |
| 07:07.18 | TTT | (windows ripped that one from unix |
| 07:07.31 | Gnea | noisy_1: or ip a |
| 07:07.45 | Gnea | (if iproute is installed) |
| 07:08.11 | streuner_ | TTT: but unstable is unstable, who can tell you you don't get any problems...? |
| 07:08.25 | noisy_1 | wow |
| 07:08.32 | noisy_1 | I got SWAT working. |
| 07:08.50 | noisy_1 | That was incredibly easy |
| 07:09.12 | TTT | we'll soon know, status seems pretty peaceful, not too stuff borked. I can do without missing manpages for a while |
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| 07:10.08 | noisy_1 | Can I please get a link to commonly-used linux commands? |
| 07:10.18 | noisy_1 | !commands |
| 07:10.19 | dpkg | commands is, like, The Linux command reference may be found here: http://justlinux.com/nhf/Command_Reference and here: http://justlinux.com/nhf/Shells/Basic_Console_Commands.html |
| 07:10.19 | Gnea | !tell noisy_1 about newbiedoc |
| 07:10.22 | noisy_1 | ah |
| 07:10.25 | liable | noisy_1: congrats, now get samba to work properly :P |
| 07:10.43 | noisy_1 | It doesn't show file trees, you have to figure out the pathway >_<" |
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| 07:10.56 | Gnea | that's right |
| 07:11.02 | Gnea | samba assumes nothing :) |
| 07:11.10 | noisy_1 | which is probably good |
| 07:11.21 | Gnea | very |
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| 07:11.31 | noisy_1 | now... to tell where my mounts are i type "mount" ?? |
| 07:11.39 | Gnea | aye |
| 07:11.44 | noisy_1 | sweet deal |
| 07:12.03 | noisy_1 | I'm missing a hard drive |
| 07:12.05 | htrp | i accidentally deleted 'apache2-default', is there any way to get this back? |
| 07:12.16 | Gnea | htrp: the directory? |
| 07:12.20 | htrp | yeah |
| 07:12.26 | htrp | and all files in it |
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| 07:12.33 | Gnea | htrp: reinstall apache |
| 07:12.56 | htrp | lol |
| 07:12.58 | Gnea | htrp: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep apache <-- shows you what apache packages you have installed |
| 07:13.11 | noisy_1 | well the linux console > DOS... that's for sure |
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| 07:13.39 | Gnea | noisy_1: agreed |
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| 07:13.46 | TTT | noisy_1: heh, that's not even worth comparing |
| 07:14.01 | Gnea | yeah dos couldn't do jack shit, i figured that out over a decade ago |
| 07:14.05 | noisy_1 | :) .... so to get my new hard drive do I grep? |
| 07:14.24 | Gnea | noisy_1: you will need to read some more.... |
| 07:14.28 | Gnea | !tell noisy_1 about newbie_guide |
| 07:14.44 | Gnea | noisy_1: please read, and read a lot, and experiment :) |
| 07:15.41 | noisy_1 | I just dont want to break it like I've done so many times before >_< |
| 07:15.55 | Gnea | noisy_1: breaking it is part of learning it ;) |
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| 07:16.14 | noisy_1 | For some reason I thought I needed apache, mysql, and a mail server to run samba |
| 07:16.21 | noisy_1 | ...last time |
| 07:16.25 | Gnea | but, the more you research, the less mistakes you'll make |
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| 07:17.15 | Gnea | of course, the key to less mistakes is constant application |
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| 07:19.45 | Gnea | dark_: still there? |
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| 07:19.48 | Gnea | oops |
| 07:20.01 | Linuhx | If all my ports are closed, is my system pretty secure?? |
| 07:20.23 | TTT | Linuhx: should be, unless you download and run some trojan yourself |
| 07:20.25 | valdyn | Linuhx: depends |
| 07:20.30 | streuner_ | heh, unplug from i-net and you are secure |
| 07:20.31 | Gnea | dark_light: still there? |
| 07:20.41 | Gnea | dark_light: i fucking got it :D |
| 07:20.47 | dark_ | i am the dark_light :P |
| 07:20.51 | TTT | streuner_: what about infected floppies (or USB drives ?) |
| 07:20.54 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 07:21.04 | dark_ | Gnea, what is your solution? |
| 07:21.07 | valdyn | Linuhx: 'all' ports being closed implies that you cannot use or are not using the network too though |
| 07:21.19 | streuner_ | TTT: s(he) talked about ports... |
| 07:21.20 | Gnea | i added like, 3 or 4 lines and it 'just works' |
| 07:21.24 | dark_ | ps: dark_light is a ghost.. peharps i still remember the password of the nick, let me see |
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| 07:21.29 | yos87 | Hi, |
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| 07:21.34 | Linuhx | valdyn: on my fedora box I can be in mirc, browsing, and when someone nmaps me it says all ports are closed |
| 07:21.39 | dark_ | Gnea, but you are saying, audacity? |
| 07:21.50 | yos87 | Is there graphic installating for debian? |
| 07:21.55 | Linuhx | i mean debian |
| 07:21.55 | valdyn | Linuhx: nmap doesnt list all open ports like that |
| 07:21.57 | Linuhx | not fedora |
| 07:21.59 | Gnea | dark_: no! it's commandline :D |
| 07:22.04 | deconvolution | hi suddently I found my user password just has 8 effective chars even I input a 16 chars password, which package can solve this problem? |
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| 07:22.31 | dark_light | Gnea, what is the command?=) |
| 07:22.34 | Gnea | ARGH |
| 07:22.36 | Gnea | shit, i found a bug |
| 07:22.41 | norbert | hi, can anyone tell me what font packages (apt) have replaced ttfonts and urw-fonts in etch? I'm have to use those for fonts in Flash. |
| 07:22.42 | Gnea | but i lost some songs cuz of it :( |
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| 07:22.48 | Gnea | but i have them backed up :D |
| 07:22.53 | dark_light | :ooooooooo |
| 07:23.00 | dark_light | Gnea, what bug? |
| 07:23.06 | dark_light | and.. what is the command anyway? |
| 07:23.07 | TTT | Linuhx: try netstat -l or lsof -nP (on the box you are running) |
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| 07:23.13 | Gnea | it was supposed to remove the wavs, not the mp3s |
| 07:23.49 | hjubal | hi |
| 07:23.53 | yos87 | hi |
| 07:24.04 | Gnea | dark_light: it's called mp32ogg |
| 07:24.17 | Gnea | and once it's done with the song it's on now i'll paste the code somewhere... |
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| 07:24.30 | htrp | is there any other terminal other than konsole and gnome terminal? |
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| 07:24.48 | Gnea | htrp: Eterm, aterm, rxvt, xterm, among others |
| 07:24.53 | Draconicus | Do you guys have fglrx as a package, yet? |
| 07:25.13 | htrp | i don't like gnomae terminal, i need something like PuTTY that lets you copy the word by just highlighting it |
| 07:25.15 | Gnea | Draconicus: we're not developers in here. |
| 07:25.16 | valdyn | Draconicus: ati's installer will generate debs |
| 07:25.27 | htrp | in gnome-terminal you have to right-click then copt |
| 07:25.29 | htrp | copy* |
| 07:25.32 | dark_light | Gnea, found it, mp32ogg - Converts MP3 file to Ogg Vorbis, thanks=) (i should have though it...) |
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| 07:25.56 | Gnea | dark_light: what?! mine's gotta be better, if not the same ;) |
| 07:25.56 | Linuhx | why is it when I save something as an ogg it has like 3 files..its confusing |
| 07:25.58 | valdyn | Draconicus: those debs then should work in sarge and etch, not sid i guess |
| 07:25.59 | Gnea | dark_light: url? |
| 07:26.09 | dark_light | Gnea, apt-get:) |
| 07:26.15 | Gnea | ! |
| 07:26.18 | dark_light | Gnea, but i am on a ubuntu machine (dapper) |
| 07:26.23 | Linuhx | why is it when I save something as an ogg it has like 3 files..its confusing |
| 07:26.25 | dark_light | found it with apt-cache |
| 07:26.42 | Gnea | dark_light: heh, mine's just a shell script |
| 07:26.43 | dark_light | Linuhx, where? |
| 07:26.47 | valdyn | Linuhx: you dont make sense, what exactly are you doing? |
| 07:26.51 | Gnea | Linuhx: with what? |
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| 07:26.59 | Linuhx | saving an ogg with audacity |
| 07:27.04 | dark_light | Gnea, here too i think |
| 07:27.14 | Gnea | Depends: perl, vorbis-tools, mpg321 (>= 0.2), libmp3-info-perl, libstring-shellquote-perl |
| 07:27.15 | dark_light | i am installing right now:) |
| 07:27.20 | Gnea | dark_light: looks like perl to me |
| 07:27.32 | Linuhx | Why do people run ubuntu instead of pure debian, isnt ubuntu debian with training wheels? |
| 07:27.46 | dark_light | Gnea, yes.. new packages installed: libmp3-info-perl libstring-shellquote-perl mp32ogg mpg321 |
| 07:27.47 | dark_light | :) |
| 07:27.51 | valdyn | htrp: gnome-terminal _does_ let you copy a word by just highlighting it |
| 07:27.53 | Gnea | !ubuntu |
| 07:27.53 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 07:27.59 | Gnea | !based on debian |
| 07:27.59 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
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| 07:28.04 | dark_light | Linuhx, well.. |
| 07:28.07 | htrp | valdyn: i know, but not always |
| 07:28.09 | Gnea | dark_light: haha, mpg321 |
| 07:28.09 | dorel_ | is 2.6.16-486 coming with i2c configured in the kernel? |
| 07:28.18 | valdyn | htrp: yes always |
| 07:28.24 | dark_light | i run ubuntu because debian stable is stable but old, and debian sid is (some sort of) new but uunstable |
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| 07:28.30 | Gnea | dark_light: yeah, it does the same thing then - converts to wav first |
| 07:28.36 | dark_light | but i don't plan advocate on ubuntu on a debian channel |
| 07:28.54 | dark_light | Gnea, oh well.. at lest it's automated:) |
| 07:28.56 | valdyn | dark_light: dont plan on asking for support for ubuntu here, its off topic |
| 07:29.02 | Linuhx | Debian stable packages arent THAT old, 2 versions behind at most |
| 07:29.02 | noisy_1 | ubuntu has apt-get |
| 07:29.07 | dark_light | valdyn, yeah, i know :-) |
| 07:29.10 | Gnea | noisy_1: READ |
| 07:29.16 | noisy_1 | :'( |
| 07:29.19 | Gnea | !tell noisy_1 about based on debian |
| 07:29.26 | Gnea | that is the crucial part right there |
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| 07:29.36 | TTT | dorel_: should be, maybe you need to load some modules, what do you need i2c for? |
| 07:29.46 | Linuhx | Sarge is so..universal and compatible ^_^ |
| 07:29.48 | Gnea | noisy_1: people have gone apeshit and have been removed completely from this channel for challenging that :) |
| 07:30.33 | Gnea | wow, now i've got a problem... stupid nvidia-glx |
| 07:30.39 | Gnea | dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2' with |
| 07:30.41 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:30.42 | Linuhx | since I installed by buttetproof stable, I havent run into one program which I couldnt install |
| 07:30.53 | htrp | how do you copy text with xterm? |
| 07:31.01 | Gnea | htrp: the normal way |
| 07:31.08 | Gnea | double click, middle click |
| 07:31.16 | Gnea | or hilight, middle click |
| 07:32.22 | htrp | ic |
| 07:32.31 | _fjh_ | htrp: left=start of text, right=end of text, middle=paste |
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| 07:34.02 | dark_light | well i will reboot, change kernel, bye guys |
| 07:34.08 | dark_light | and thanks again Gnea =) |
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| 07:35.41 | noisy_1 | How do I exit out of fdisk? |
| 07:35.50 | noisy_1 | without editing partition tables |
| 07:35.52 | TTT | q |
| 07:35.55 | noisy_1 | thanks |
| 07:36.06 | TTT | if you don't do 'w' (write), you change nothing |
| 07:36.28 | Gnea | oh wow... my nvidia is totally screwed up |
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| 07:36.36 | TTT | you can screw around, then quit and partition tables are fine unless you write anything |
| 07:36.46 | yos87 | where can I download the iso of this graphical installtion ? http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=486&slide=15 |
| 07:36.49 | Gnea | even the force options won't get past it, this is bad :( |
| 07:36.55 | TTT | Gnea: heh, that's why I have radeon 9250, last video card with 100% open-source 3D support |
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| 07:37.33 | Gnea | TTT: yeah well this is the first time this has happened in well over a year - the ATI cards have problems with drivers left and right :) |
| 07:37.37 | noisy_1 | I'm running Debian on a computer without an AGP slot |
| 07:37.50 | breedx | noisy_1: me too! :) |
| 07:37.58 | TTT | Gnea: not with open-source drivers |
| 07:38.10 | noisy_1 | The CPU heatsink is a heatsink from a Radeon 9800 Pro |
| 07:38.11 | unix_infidel | noisy_1: lol, nice, my old 75mhz box is destined to run debian :P |
| 07:38.33 | dorel_ | TTT: trying to get lirc-0.8 to compile but it says i will have to use lirc_i2c kernel module - no idea whats that and then on 'make' it errors out |
| 07:38.35 | TTT | heh, i think everything you can put into PCI is already supported 100% |
| 07:38.51 | noisy_1 | everything pci is like 80 bucks |
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| 07:38.55 | noisy_1 | cant find a cheap one |
| 07:39.01 | Gnea | TTT: bite me |
| 07:39.08 | honschu | How to go to ACPI S3, S4 or S5 ? |
| 07:39.13 | Gnea | noisy_1: ebay, < $50 |
| 07:39.25 | unix_infidel | anyone here own an X series thinkpad? |
| 07:39.45 | noisy_1 | it keeps saying I need to specify a filesystem type |
| 07:39.47 | TTT | noisy_1: try buying used, i can get some used PCI stuff here for ~50 Litas (~18 USD) |
| 07:40.09 | noisy_1 | bah... I'm only running CLI... crappy integrated is good enough |
| 07:40.13 | nima | unix_infidel, how long did it overclock for? |
| 07:40.29 | TTT | dorel_: sorry, can't help you with lirc, never used it myself |
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| 07:40.35 | unix_infidel | nima: i believe it just upped the multiplier for less than 5 minutes. |
| 07:40.44 | unix_infidel | nima: i believe you can google image search for it. |
| 07:40.59 | noisy_1 | did you up the cpu voltage? |
| 07:41.03 | TTT | dorel_: there are some (maybe non-lirc specific) i2c modules in 2.6.16, take a look at /lib/modules/... |
| 07:41.10 | nima | unix_infidel, someone sold me a partially broken computer with one, and i had no idea what it was :-) |
| 07:41.19 | unix_infidel | noisy_1: this is OLD OLD School. |
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| 07:41.38 | unix_infidel | it was a marketing gimmick when if you knew how to install EDO RAM you were a HAX0R! |
| 07:41.42 | noisy_1 | slower than 333mhz? |
| 07:41.49 | scarynetworkguy | unix_infidel: You would be wrong. http://www.pcguide.com/ref/case/switchTurbo-c.html |
| 07:41.56 | peej | recommended games for debian? Aimed for non-geek wife. frozen-bubble and jump-n-bump already loaded :-) |
| 07:42.13 | noisy_1 | tetris is a crowd-pleaser |
| 07:42.14 | breedx | peej: neverball! |
| 07:42.15 | nima | peej, enigma is a must |
| 07:43.07 | peej | neverball? never heard of it, must get that then. Oh, yeah, tetris, thanks. enigma is a bit weird, but yeah, why not |
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| 07:43.36 | breedx | neverball is the super monkey ball equiv ripoff thingy ... but it's fun. |
| 07:43.46 | noisy_1 | if you can run flash there are tons of games avail |
| 07:43.56 | noisy_1 | coffeebreak arcade |
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| 07:44.04 | DjSpy | is there a way to unbind a port? (53), named is not running but port is still in use |
| 07:44.10 | noisy_1 | well... flash/java/shockwave |
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| 07:44.30 | breedx | too bad no flash on amd64 eh? |
| 07:44.34 | valdyn | DjSpy: what does netstat -plunt say about port 53 ? |
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| 07:45.11 | User900 | -> valdyn Do you want remember ? (ISA cards) |
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| 07:45.35 | noisy_1 | 64-bit is just a baby |
| 07:45.43 | Gnea | fucking shit, even if i put nvidia-glx on hold, it still tries to remove it |
| 07:45.56 | valdyn | User900: i do remember, i doubt i can help you further, its been years since i had to use an isa card |
| 07:45.56 | Gnea | noisy_1: not anymore - it's official now |
| 07:46.02 | breedx | noisy -- I know....but I'm on a new box and feeling like a newborn again....so it's all good |
| 07:46.05 | Gnea | more like a toddler |
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| 07:46.15 | DjSpy | udp 0 0 80.82.17.112:53 0.0.0.0:* 3338/named |
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| 07:46.27 | noisy_1 | and 16-bit is like a grandpa... old and senile |
| 07:46.48 | peej | oooh. that lemmings clone. that is good. |
| 07:46.55 | Gnea | 16bit is a great-great-great-grandpa |
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| 07:47.20 | breedx | I was completely surprised at how well the testing net install cd worked on this box!!! |
| 07:47.30 | noisy_1 | and I still cant mount my hard drive |
| 07:47.30 | breedx | (for amd64 I mean) |
| 07:47.48 | valdyn | noisy_1: you partitioned it? |
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| 07:48.03 | noisy_1 | nah... its a winblows disk |
| 07:48.04 | noisy_1 | ntfs |
| 07:48.15 | valdyn | noisy_1: which partitions are on it? |
| 07:48.25 | noisy_1 | one big one |
| 07:48.38 | valdyn | noisy_1: hows the disk device node called? |
| 07:48.44 | noisy_1 | the who? |
| 07:48.48 | peej | what's race like? |
| 07:48.51 | valdyn | noisy_1: /dev/hda? |
| 07:48.54 | noisy_1 | hdb |
| 07:49.07 | valdyn | noisy_1: cat /proc/partitions | grep hdb |
| 07:49.16 | valdyn | noisy_1: uh, grep hdb /proc/partitions |
| 07:50.10 | noisy_1 | what happens now? |
| 07:50.18 | valdyn | noisy_1: you run that command |
| 07:50.23 | valdyn | noisy_1: and tell me the output |
| 07:50.34 | noisy_1 | there's too much output |
| 07:50.36 | honschu | How to start s3 sleep mode? |
| 07:50.39 | Gnea | !paster |
| 07:50.39 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 07:51.12 | noisy_1 | I can do this on cli? |
| 07:51.19 | Gnea | sure |
| 07:51.23 | noisy_1 | w3m? |
| 07:51.29 | Gnea | just your mouse |
| 07:51.32 | Gnea | lynx will do it |
| 07:51.41 | noisy_1 | my mouse isn't detected |
| 07:51.47 | Gnea | install gpm |
| 07:52.00 | noisy_1 | gpm? |
| 07:52.04 | Gnea | gpm |
| 07:52.20 | noisy_1 | k... I'm going to do this tomorrow, I'm starting to lose balance on my chair |
| 07:52.25 | noisy_1 | little tired |
| 07:52.29 | valdyn | noisy_1: cat /proc/partitions > file.txt; /j #flood in your irc client, /exec -o cat file.txt |
| 07:52.41 | Gnea | in soviet russia, balance loses chairs! |
| 07:52.54 | Gnea | noisy_1: or what valdyn said |
| 07:52.59 | noisy_1 | O RLY? |
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| 07:53.32 | noisy_1 | it's a different computer though |
| 07:53.58 | Gnea | you're not ircing from your linux box? |
| 07:54.03 | noisy_1 | on cli? |
| 07:54.12 | Gnea | uh, yeah |
| 07:54.18 | [6502] | qt4 anyone ? i'm on a debian sarge and i've a problem with the backport |
| 07:54.20 | Gnea | that's how i've been ircing for over 10 years |
| 07:54.31 | Gnea | install irssi |
| 07:54.34 | valdyn | i cant really imagine that cat /proc/partitions | grep hdb can give many lines on a hdb having only 1 partition |
| 07:54.45 | Gnea | !tell [6502] about ask |
| 07:55.02 | noisy_1 | many many lines |
| 07:55.23 | Gnea | heh |
| 07:55.51 | valdyn | noisy_1: paste one of those lines here |
| 07:55.53 | [6502] | i get a conflict between qt3-dev-tools and qt4-dev-tools, does this mean that it's not possible to have both on the system ? that would be crazy ... |
| 07:56.02 | noisy_1 | there are 10 pathways |
| 07:56.05 | valdyn | [6502]: why would that be crazy? |
| 07:56.07 | noisy_1 | k, I'll type one |
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| 07:56.37 | valdyn | [6502]: qt4 is i bet supposed to be backwards compatible to qt3, so they HAVE TO conflict |
| 07:56.38 | [6502] | vadyn: qt4 is not bacwkard compatible... they're different libraries |
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| 07:56.43 | noisy_1 | 3 0 80043264 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc numbers.... |
| 07:56.45 | tremor | hello * |
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| 07:57.14 | [6502] | valdyn: there is a tool to help converting the sources... but they're NOT the same library |
| 07:57.16 | superlinux | hi tremor |
| 07:57.32 | valdyn | [6502]: i see |
| 07:58.16 | tremor | i like to configure my laptop's lan (wlan) such a way, that i can easily swich between different wlan's (home, work). which package would you refer me to? |
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| 07:58.55 | valdyn | [6502]: i have both installed |
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| 08:00.15 | valdyn | tremor: do you want to use a GUI for that? |
| 08:00.37 | tremor | valdyn: no, i would prefer a cmdline for this- |
| 08:00.40 | valdyn | tremor: which debian release are you running? |
| 08:00.44 | tremor | s/-/. |
| 08:00.47 | tremor | unstable |
| 08:01.10 | noisy_1 | special device /dev/hdb/ does not exist? |
| 08:01.13 | valdyn | tremor: write the scripts yourself |
| 08:01.15 | tremor | in the past i tried something like that but i dont remember, which package that was |
| 08:01.17 | valdyn | tremor: its a one liner |
| 08:01.22 | [6502] | valdyn: both dev tools or both libraries ? |
| 08:01.35 | tremor | valdyn: ok, i'll check that. |
| 08:01.51 | valdyn | [6502]: qt3-dev-tools is already the newest version. \ qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version. |
| 08:02.14 | [6502] | valdyn: so the problem is just in the backport ? |
| 08:02.32 | valdyn | [6502]: probably, i wouldnt know about the backport, this is sid |
| 08:02.38 | [6502] | probably i have a bad aptitude |
| 08:02.40 | [6502] | ehehe |
| 08:03.42 | tonsofpcs | where can i get the alpha ISOs? |
| 08:03.47 | tonsofpcs | [from woody] |
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| 08:03.57 | valdyn | tonsofpcs: www.debian.org is a good starting point |
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| 08:04.16 | tonsofpcs | valdyn - the mirrors seem to only have the i386 discs |
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| 08:05.03 | valdyn | tonsofpcs: which country? |
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| 08:05.54 | tonsofpcs | valdyn - I'm in the US, but i'll take anything you can find ;) |
| 08:06.07 | unstable | yes tremor? |
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| 08:06.55 | valdyn | tonsofpcs: why not sarge btw? |
| 08:06.58 | noisy_1 | how long can linux run without noticable lag? |
| 08:07.03 | stray_ | tonsofpcs: 'index of debian alpha' in google turns up a few mirrors.. |
| 08:07.07 | valdyn | noisy_1: years |
| 08:07.08 | tonsofpcs | valdyn - sarge won't install with milo |
| 08:07.18 | tonsofpcs | stray_ - they all seem to be sarge |
| 08:07.19 | tremor | unstable: sorry, was only my answer on valdyn's question. |
| 08:07.34 | tremor | i forgot to name my posting. |
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| 08:07.47 | noisy_1 | I tried "mount /dev/hdb/ /hdb/ |
| 08:07.50 | noisy_1 | it didnt work |
| 08:08.29 | valdyn | tonsofpcs: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/alpha/ |
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| 08:08.42 | loren2 | Q: Does the Windows Installer Include .h files? I recovered some funky data off a drive, but it had .h files to windows OS stuff |
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| 08:08.54 | loren2 | the people in wine won't reply |
| 08:09.05 | valdyn | loren2: does this look like a windows support channel? |
| 08:09.12 | streuner_ | !they don't know |
| 08:09.12 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 08:09.16 | loren2 | valdyn: typical response |
| 08:09.23 | loren2 | valdyn: no pwn intended |
| 08:09.24 | valdyn | loren2: yes, hope so |
| 08:09.35 | loren2 | .l |
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| 08:09.43 | valdyn | loren2: #win, #windows, #winxp, #whatever |
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| 08:09.58 | noisy_1 | .h files are libraries |
| 08:10.03 | valdyn | noisy_1: no |
| 08:10.05 | peterS | they are not |
| 08:10.17 | noisy_1 | o_O |
| 08:10.27 | noisy_1 | anyway... mounting |
| 08:10.29 | Gnea | .h files are header files |
| 08:10.36 | topa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:10.36 | topa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:10.36 | topa_ | 19:11 valdyn: noisy_1: no |
| 08:10.36 | topa_ | 19:11 peterS: they are not |
| 08:10.36 | topa_ | 19:11 leo-tokyo->signoff #debian n=leo@softbank219018154018.bbtec.net (Remote closed the connection) |
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| 08:10.39 | noisy_1 | includes |
| 08:10.41 | Gnea | lib* files are library files |
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| 08:11.07 | topa_ | oops, sorry about the flood |
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| 08:11.18 | Gnea | cool, i figured my problem out :D |
| 08:11.20 | [6502] | what is sarge r2 ? |
| 08:11.31 | topa_ | [6502] it's the release number |
| 08:11.33 | Gnea | [6502]: sarge, revision 2 |
| 08:11.46 | tonsofpcs | 3.1r2 |
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| 08:13.45 | [6502] | i've a slightly messed up sarge (i had to hammer it a bit to get things working), migrating to r2 is going to be a disaster ? |
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| 08:15.30 | peterS | [6502]: 3.1r0 -> 3.1r2 is a very small upgrade |
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| 08:16.46 | noisy_1 | It seems my hdb is actually hdb1-14 |
| 08:16.50 | noisy_1 | is this ok? |
| 08:17.04 | Gnea | noisy_1: you have 15 partitions? |
| 08:17.13 | noisy_1 | I guess... |
| 08:17.17 | Gnea | noisy_1: or is that what's listed in /dev ? |
| 08:17.23 | noisy_1 | yeah |
| 08:17.28 | noisy_1 | ls /dev/hdb |
| 08:17.34 | Gnea | ah ok - that's normal then - they're just files |
| 08:17.42 | miki2 | damn, i recomiled kernel and |
| 08:17.45 | Gnea | fdisk -l /dev/hdb will tell you what your hard drive is really setup as |
| 08:17.47 | noisy_1 | k... so how do I mount them |
| 08:17.49 | noisy_1 | oh |
| 08:17.51 | miki2 | no effect with my modem/pppoa |
| 08:18.10 | Gnea | miki2: have you been following any howto/tutorials? |
| 08:18.19 | miki2 | now its loaded as module, i tried modprobe it but linux cant find pppoatm althro its there in place |
| 08:18.20 | miki2 | yup |
| 08:18.34 | Gnea | maybe it got renamed? |
| 08:18.43 | miki2 | nope, excaly same in it plce |
| 08:18.58 | Gnea | anything with modinfo pppoatm? |
| 08:19.13 | miki2 | didnt try |
| 08:19.23 | Gnea | hrm, but the application should auto-load the module... |
| 08:19.27 | Gnea | try now... |
| 08:19.28 | Gnea | brb |
| 08:19.34 | Gnea | rebooting to Xorg 7.0 |
| 08:19.38 | miki2 | aight, i will |
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| 08:23.20 | tabern | I like gnu i like free world but i dont understand why people made her program free... everybody want money |
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| 08:23.40 | hans0lo | How can I tell how much video memory I have? somethign in /proc? |
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| 08:23.52 | valdyn | tabern: many different reasons |
| 08:24.26 | [6502] | exibitionism |
| 08:24.27 | NeoZero | tabern: not everybody wants money, the proof is gnu and free software ;-) |
| 08:24.34 | noisy_1 | to power off linux box... "shutdown -[ ] now |
| 08:24.49 | valdyn | hans0lo: no there's no unified way |
| 08:24.50 | tabern | NeoZero, lol but.. admit.. money is cool |
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| 08:25.43 | valdyn | tabern: most kernel producers are trying to charge money, but only the one not charging money could 'become' linux |
| 08:26.07 | tabern | ok |
| 08:26.08 | valdyn | tabern: and there's probably hundreds of failed commercial OSes |
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| 08:26.26 | noisy_1 | What if Bill Gates made a Linux distro? |
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| 08:26.34 | tabern | lol |
| 08:26.46 | noisy_1 | nah... He has too much pride |
| 08:26.46 | erudified | he owns a pretty decent *nix distribution actually |
| 08:26.49 | erudified | Interix isn't half-bad. |
| 08:27.00 | noisy_1 | is it commercial? |
| 08:27.07 | erudified | of course |
| 08:27.15 | tabern | what is the name |
| 08:27.32 | erudified | Interix...AKA services for unix (or subsystem for unix applications) |
| 08:27.39 | tabern | ok |
| 08:27.46 | erudified | SUA is currently the best version of it, lets you link against unix libraries from msvc |
| 08:27.53 | erudified | which is absolutely fucking priceless |
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| 08:28.03 | erudified | anyways, enough of that =P |
| 08:28.57 | tabern | but xp is stable |
| 08:29.03 | noisy_1 | almost |
| 08:29.24 | noisy_1 | It's still windows... that's an eternal handicap |
| 08:29.37 | ejk | haha, so true. |
| 08:29.53 | erudified | windows bought me a beemer. |
| 08:29.57 | erudified | I'm grateful! lol |
| 08:30.01 | noisy_1 | windows bought me linux |
| 08:30.09 | noisy_1 | anyway, I'm off to bed |
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| 08:30.52 | erudified | the juarez in unstable looks to be shaping up very nicely |
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| 08:35.45 | NeoZero | I think that I have all kernel modules for audio properly installed (lsmod shows that), but I haven't audio device... (after installing a new kernel version in debian sid, 2.6.16-1-686) |
| 08:35.45 | NeoZero | this kernel comes with udev, and 'udev' package was installed |
| 08:35.46 | NeoZero | but, I think it isn't working... |
| 08:35.46 | NeoZero | demeter:~# mount | grep udev |
| 08:35.46 | NeoZero | demeter:~# |
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| 08:36.14 | erudified | /dev is still mounted as 'devfs' |
| 08:36.32 | erudified | (I think. I don't use sid.) |
| 08:37.12 | NeoZero | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) |
| 08:37.18 | miki4 | Gnea: hmmm modinfo says that it cant find pppoa... wtf |
| 08:37.27 | NeoZero | this is the only thing I have |
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| 08:37.36 | Gnea | miki4: NFC... my nvidia is fucked |
| 08:37.42 | Gnea | everytime i modprobe nvidia now, OOPS |
| 08:37.50 | rohan | if i have a file, how can i find which package does it belong to ? |
| 08:37.51 | Gnea | if i try to unload it hardlocks |
| 08:38.08 | Gnea | well, it locks the terminal, i can still reboot at least |
| 08:38.17 | Gnea | so i am mistaken, softlocks |
| 08:38.20 | erudified | NeoZero, okay. some more specifics would help, then... (pastebin) what card, what driver, lspci -vv output |
| 08:38.21 | [6502] | ok, i 'm going to fight with the source distro of qt4 (jut to mess up my system a bit more) |
| 08:38.24 | [6502] | bye and thanx |
| 08:38.27 | ararak | rohan: dpkg -S /path/to/file or dlocate -S /path/to/file |
| 08:38.33 | rohan | thanks, ararak |
| 08:38.37 | erudified | [6502] you can install qt to ~/qt |
| 08:38.42 | erudified | or /usr/local/qt |
| 08:38.46 | erudified | and not mess anything up |
| 08:38.48 | [6502] | sure i'll do |
| 08:39.01 | erudified | yeah, just remember to specify where it's at to KDE or whatever |
| 08:39.02 | Gnea | http://pastebin.com/676519 |
| 08:39.09 | Gnea | does this look familiar to anyone? |
| 08:39.22 | [6502] | i'd have been happier to be able to use aptitude tho |
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| 08:39.35 | erudified | understandable |
| 08:39.37 | [6502] | because i won't be able to install packages that depends on qt4 |
| 08:39.45 | erudified | You can, 6502 |
| 08:39.49 | valdyn | Gnea: which nvidia version is that? |
| 08:39.49 | [6502] | even if i'll get a working qt4 |
| 08:39.55 | erudified | you can install qt4 and everything that depends on Qt4 to a different directory |
| 08:40.00 | kevix | rohan: dpkg -S will find a file in your INSTALLED packages. if you want to find a file in a package that is not yet installed, use apt-file. |
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| 08:40.16 | rohan | kevix: ah, no i wanted to search within installed pkgs |
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| 08:40.17 | Gnea | valdyn: latest sid - 8756 |
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| 08:40.29 | erudified | just set $PATH and the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH (Is that it? I forget) when you launch Qt4-dependent programs |
| 08:40.34 | [6502] | but i'll have to manually install eveything |
| 08:40.48 | rohan | also, is there some way i can tell apt to install the dependencies of a package, but not the pkg itself ? (not build-dep, just runtime deps) |
| 08:40.50 | erudified | it's not that hard... KDE 4 is horribly broken anyways |
| 08:41.03 | Gnea | valdyn: it's a debian 2.6.16 source tree compiled, should work just fine - no special patches applied |
| 08:41.03 | erudified | so there isn't much that actually uses Qt4 |
| 08:41.04 | [6502] | because debs dependents on qt4 won't work if i manually install a manually compiled qt4 |
| 08:41.31 | [6502] | aptitude is brittle |
| 08:41.41 | erudified | [6502], yeah they will, if you launch them from a shell that has your normal LD_LIBRARY_PATH and PATH |
| 08:41.46 | [6502] | once you've to deviate a bit... you lose everthing |
| 08:41.55 | erudified | just install kde and qt4 to /opt |
| 08:42.04 | ararak | anyone know where I should read of what I'm supposed to do if I want to retire from the debian project ? |
| 08:42.04 | Gnea | without deviation, you learn nothing |
| 08:42.05 | rohan | why dke ?! |
| 08:42.05 | kevix | rohan: you can see then with apt-cache info $PKG and then see then depends: line |
| 08:42.13 | rohan | kevix: ok, ty |
| 08:42.21 | erudified | set $PATH=/opt/bin:$PATH; and LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 08:42.26 | kevix | rohan: s/info/show/ |
| 08:42.50 | erudified | launch qt4 applications from a shell with that environment, and just use your normal system paths for everything else |
| 08:42.54 | [6502] | it's like a comunist system... everything works perfectly, in theory |
| 08:43.04 | erudified | huh |
| 08:43.04 | Gnea | LMFAO |
| 08:43.05 | [6502] | it's like making pencils balancing on the tip |
| 08:43.14 | erudified | it's the most democratic system I know of |
| 08:43.20 | [6502] | nah |
| 08:43.34 | [6502] | local fight is the solution |
| 08:43.39 | [6502] | cooperation doesn't work |
| 08:43.42 | Gnea | [6502]: i dunno man, china seems to have gotten it right... complete citizen suppresion and all |
| 08:43.47 | [6502] | humans are evil |
| 08:43.57 | erudified | look, that's great, but this isn't #politics man |
| 08:44.05 | Gnea | you're figuring this out only now? |
| 08:44.09 | erudified | this is #debian, and you can do what you want to do with a minimal amount of bullshit |
| 08:44.22 | Gnea | [6502]: anyway, you're offtopic now |
| 08:44.28 | [6502] | hehehe |
| 08:44.30 | [6502] | oki |
| 08:44.32 | [6502] | byeeeeeeeee |
| 08:44.41 | kevix | erudified: what part of free software is not political? |
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| 08:44.51 | erudified | the usage of it |
| 08:44.52 | Gnea | kevix: the command line |
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| 08:45.09 | multi_io | in the alternatives system, is there a way to create the generic links in /usr/bin, /usr/share/man etc. for a given link group? |
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| 08:46.20 | NeoZero | erudified: http://pastebin.com/676524 |
| 08:46.21 | miki4 | so how can i install pppoa? i got module |
| 08:46.52 | kevix | erudified: the usage of free software is a political statement. look at dimitry sylaroff or the decss creator. |
| 08:46.53 | erudified | NeoZero, that looks right. Have you tried setting the volume (I've done that before, heh) |
| 08:47.03 | erudified | it is a political statement in some instances |
| 08:47.03 | Gnea | miki4: is there anything in /usr/share/doc/ ? |
| 08:47.09 | erudified | but sometimes you just want some software that works |
| 08:47.23 | NeoZero | erudified: setting the volume? I don't understand :-) |
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| 08:47.29 | erudified | so it can be purely objective, there's nothing inherently political about it |
| 08:47.30 | Gnea | erudified: leave my mom out of this! :) |
| 08:47.38 | wookienz | hi i have a firewall rule under the Chain Forward in the iptable of ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere 192.168.2.11 tcp dpt:23142 but ight below it i have another that says DROP udp -- anywhere 192.168.2.11 udp dpts:23142:24000. Which one does it use? |
| 08:47.55 | miki4 | Gnea: i dont even know, before this kernel i had pppoa automatically loaded... |
| 08:47.59 | erudified | NeoZero, Do you use X? |
| 08:48.14 | Gnea | wookienz: it uses both |
| 08:48.15 | NeoZero | erudified: yes |
| 08:48.17 | miki4 | never had any problems with it |
| 08:48.20 | NeoZero | erudified: x.org |
| 08:48.29 | wookienz | Gnea, so is it either accepted or dropped? |
| 08:48.33 | erudified | NeoZero, I'd grab either gmix or kmix (or some other mixer) |
| 08:48.38 | erudified | and check the volume. |
| 08:48.47 | Gnea | wookienz: anything that's listed there is used |
| 08:48.52 | NeoZero | erudified: the problem is that I have no /dev/dsp device |
| 08:49.04 | NeoZero | erudified: so, artsd can't start :-) |
| 08:49.09 | Gnea | wookienz: if there's a number to the far left, that tells you how many bytes it's gone through |
| 08:49.14 | erudified | do you have /dev/snd* |
| 08:49.19 | NeoZero | mmm |
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| 08:49.30 | wookienz | Gnea, so which one does it use? the accept or the drop? |
| 08:49.40 | erudified | and do you have permissions to write to it? (is your user in the group audio?) |
| 08:49.45 | NeoZero | erudified: yes, I have a directory /dev/snd/ |
| 08:49.50 | Gnea | valdyn: i'm still lost with this nvidia thing... any bites? |
| 08:50.03 | Gnea | wookienz: they are in place, so it uses them |
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| 08:50.44 | Gnea | wookienz: it accepts some, it drops others, it's that simple. |
| 08:50.49 | NeoZero | erudified: do you have a kernel with 'udev'? what do you get doing 'mount|grep udev'? (I get no result) |
| 08:50.59 | erudified | I'm running windows on this laptop |
| 08:51.09 | erudified | i could ssh in tho, I guess |
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| 08:51.55 | wookienz | Gnea, bit if they say the same thing then which does it use... use them in order? ie go to accept then drop them? |
| 08:52.00 | erudified | I'm running testing |
| 08:52.16 | erudified | 2.6.12-6 |
| 08:52.20 | Gnea | wookienz: they're 2 entirely different rules, it uses them as-needed |
| 08:52.30 | erudified | And mount|grep udev shows nothing |
| 08:52.31 | wookienz | hmmm... |
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| 08:52.48 | Gnea | they accept and drop different protocols, on different ports |
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| 08:53.16 | erudified | I don't think 'udev' will ever match |
| 08:53.29 | Gnea | ps axf | grep udev |
| 08:53.36 | erudified | have you ever personally seen *udev* in the output of 'mount'? I haven't |
| 08:53.39 | kevix | NeoZero: did you try alsaconf ? |
| 08:53.48 | NeoZero | erudified: in certain cases yes, udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw) |
| 08:54.44 | Gnea | NeoZero: no, that's not udev. udev is actually udevd, a userspace daemon. |
| 08:55.07 | Gnea | it communicates with /dev, which is mounted using the tmpfs filesystem |
| 08:55.20 | Gnea | but /dev is not *udev* |
| 08:55.30 | NeoZero | Gnea: ok, I understand :-) |
| 08:55.33 | Gnea | :) |
| 08:56.07 | NeoZero | and, how can I know which name udev has selected for my audio device? |
| 08:56.28 | Gnea | take a look in /proc/asound/ |
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| 08:56.47 | kevix | NeoZero: /dev is the file system mount point for unix devices. /dev used to be static. now with UDEV it is dynamic and can be created on-the-fly |
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| 08:58.21 | NeoZero | Gnea: I don't know which file to look in /proc/asound/. There are many xD |
| 08:58.23 | usrlocal | hello |
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| 08:58.57 | usrlocal | is there a very stable and easy to setup socks5/proxy , like the old NecSocks5 please ? |
| 08:59.21 | Gnea | NeoZero: look at them all. |
| 09:00.02 | NeoZero | kevix: ok, so /dev mounted with tmpfs overwrites the static /dev, and therefore devices are created dynamically by udev. Is that correct? |
| 09:00.27 | kevix | NeoZero: yep. |
| 09:00.38 | NeoZero | Gnea: http://pastebin.com/676537 |
| 09:00.47 | cahoot | NeoZero: looks like you have an OSS module loaded ( i810_audio) this conflicts fatally with alsa |
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| 09:01.04 | NeoZero | cahoot: but I don't use alsa |
| 09:01.14 | Gnea | NeoZero: look at card0 |
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| 09:01.18 | Gnea | NeoZero: oh, but you're using alsa |
| 09:01.21 | NeoZero | Gnea: ok |
| 09:01.27 | NeoZero | Gnea: am I using alsa? xD |
| 09:01.29 | Gnea | NeoZero: you want to use alsa, not OSS |
| 09:01.31 | kevix | NeoZero: if you turn udev off, then you will be using the old static /dev, which people back then didnt like because it had a gazillion entries that didnt reflect what was actually on the system. |
| 09:01.36 | Gnea | NeoZero: /proc/asound/ exists ;) |
| 09:01.40 | cahoot | NeoZero: why do you have alsa modules loaded then? |
| 09:01.42 | Roots | Has anyone experienced a problem in Gnome where when you click "Applications" the menu comes up for a split-second and then disappears? Both the "Places" and "Desktop" menus work fine for me, but not Applications.... :( |
| 09:01.55 | smoosh | how can i speed up my dvd player, hdparam work only if i run cdda2wav.... |
| 09:01.55 | Gnea | OSS is fucking retarded anyhow, ALSA kicks its ass |
| 09:02.08 | NeoZero | cahoot: how can I load alsa modules? with modprobe? what modules? |
| 09:02.23 | Gnea | smoosh: visit www.newegg.com |
| 09:02.30 | cahoot | NeoZero: so - you mix alsa and oss according to your paste - that's fatal wrt sound |
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| 09:02.53 | usr | Hey guys |
| 09:03.08 | smoosh | Gnea: i don't understand... |
| 09:03.11 | NeoZero | cahoot: but # lsmod | grep alsa says nothing |
| 09:03.15 | Gnea | smoosh: find a newer, faster dvd drive, put down some money, and wait. |
| 09:03.18 | cahoot | NeoZero: those modules with snd- prefix are alsa |
| 09:03.28 | usr | can anyone help me understand when the file drescriptor limits are require a recompile (limits.h) and when it can be altered in limit.conf? |
| 09:03.29 | kevix | smoosh: then only thing I am aware of it the DMA options for hdparm |
| 09:03.33 | Gnea | smoosh: actually, do you have DMA enabled? |
| 09:03.33 | NeoZero | cahoot: ok |
| 09:03.34 | multi_io | when I call update-alternatives --config <name> and select a choice, the corresponding links in /etc/alternatives are updated, but the "generic" links in /usr/bin, /usr/share/man etc. are not recreated (which they usually don'T need to be, since they don't change). However, for some reason those "generic" links are missing on my system for some link groups. How can I recreate them? |
| 09:04.31 | cahoot | NeoZero: alsaconf should fix this for you - you might be better off doing a reboot after running alsaconf |
| 09:04.39 | Gnea | smoosh: hdparm -d /dev/hda |
| 09:04.40 | smoosh | Gnea: the dvd is new, and dma is enabled with hdparm, but it work at max speed only after i've run cdcda2wav... |
| 09:04.50 | Gnea | (or /dev/hdb, whatever it is) |
| 09:05.08 | Gnea | smoosh: when reading DVDs or CDs? |
| 09:05.11 | NeoZero | cahoot: In which package is alsaconf? |
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| 09:05.27 | cahoot | NeoZero: alsa-util? or such |
| 09:05.34 | cahoot | NeoZero: alsa-utils |
| 09:05.36 | smoosh | Gnea: for the moment i've tested with audio cd.... |
| 09:05.38 | NeoZero | cahoot: alsa-tools? |
| 09:05.40 | Gnea | smoosh: remember, DVD drives read DVDs slower than CDs, since the CD-read portion is faster by default (less information to parse) |
| 09:05.50 | cahoot | NeoZero: you want both |
| 09:06.05 | NeoZero | cahoot: ok, installing |
| 09:06.11 | Gnea | smoosh: then it's going to read at the speed that the drive is set to for CDs |
| 09:06.19 | kevix | NeoZero: its alsa-utils |
| 09:06.29 | Gnea | smoosh: who made the drive anyway? |
| 09:06.40 | smoosh | Gnea: lg |
| 09:06.53 | NeoZero | Gnea, kevix: by the way, thanks in advance for your time :-) |
| 09:06.54 | Gnea | not too shabby, i would've gone with lite-on |
| 09:07.20 | Gnea | smoosh: what speeds does the box indicate? |
| 09:07.26 | Gnea | NeoZero: nod |
| 09:08.19 | smoosh | Gnea: 52x... but why it go at max speed only when i extract a track with cdda2wav? |
| 09:08.31 | NeoZero | Gnea, kevix: it works with alsaconf!!! thanks a lot! |
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| 09:10.18 | smoosh | Gnea: and then it work at max speed, but every time, i must run cdda2wav for get max speed.... |
| 09:10.19 | NeoZero | I think that a I have more to read about sound in linux :-P |
| 09:10.25 | RainbowW | is there a command-line tool i can use that will resize jpegs and maintain aspect ratio? i want to resize several zillion in some directories, by about 50% |
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| 09:10.44 | Gnea | smoosh: what other app are you using to transfer data from the drive with? |
| 09:10.56 | Gnea | RainbowW: convert |
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| 09:11.21 | RainbowW | gnea: how's the speed? i'm talking on the order of 15k images :) |
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| 09:11.34 | Gnea | RainbowW: depends on your system :) |
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| 09:11.47 | RainbowW | deb package by any chance? |
| 09:11.56 | Gnea | well it's part of imagemagick |
| 09:12.07 | kartik_ | hi, I am etch but having problem that I can't connect to my wireless cdma phone through ppp |
| 09:12.19 | kartik_ | sarge was working fine with it |
| 09:12.25 | smoosh | Gnea: Kaudio creator.... and it run low, when i boot the pc, then if i run cdda2wav, also kaudio creator go at max spped.... |
| 09:12.29 | RainbowW | ... which i can not install free of X, apparently? |
| 09:12.41 | kevix | NeoZero: how to rip all those CD's with 'crip' and install xmms! |
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| 09:13.29 | NeoZero | kevix: what? xD |
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| 09:13.41 | Gnea | RainbowW: it installs free of X. it uses some X libs, but not X itself. |
| 09:13.48 | MasterTJ | Hello all. |
| 09:13.48 | kevix | kartik_: you just have to load the correct kerel module and then find the right /dev/tty? |
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| 09:14.16 | kevix | NeoZero: now that you have sound you can play music? no? |
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| 09:14.30 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 09:14.30 | NeoZero | kevix: ah, ok xDD |
| 09:14.30 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 09:14.32 | Gnea | smoosh: never used kaudio creator... surely it must have some sort of configuration area to set the speed of a drive |
| 09:14.36 | kartik_ | kevix: kernel was selected default.. |
| 09:14.53 | kartik_ | kevix: 2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 |
| 09:15.25 | kartik_ | kevix: which module I need to load? |
| 09:15.27 | kevix | kartik_: kernel modules are the bits of software that allow you to use hardware |
| 09:15.28 | smoosh | Gnea: no, it don't have any spped drive option... |
| 09:15.35 | NeoZero | kevix: I love xmms, but lately I'm using amarok |
| 09:15.38 | bibe | hi all. I wrote a very simple kernel patch to include experimental support for r1000 (Realtek 8111(B)/8168(B) gigabit ethernet) driver. My little work is based on Realtek's driver source (I already sent an email to ask for the license under which this driver is made available). Should this license be GPL, where can I send the patch to get it included into the kernel's main tree? |
| 09:15.45 | kevix | NeoZero: its all good x-) |
| 09:15.49 | MasterTJ | How can I set a custom /dev name for a usb device? I've been trying local.rules in the udev rules directory but it isn't working. |
| 09:15.55 | Gnea | smoosh: what about k3b? |
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| 09:16.24 | cahoot | bibe: tried #kernelnewbies? |
| 09:16.29 | kevix | kartik_: you should go to google and type 'your-phone-name linux' or something to find what modules. |
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| 09:17.01 | Gnea | smoosh: i mean, have you used a hand-timer to compare the time between cdda2wav and kaudio? |
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| 09:17.16 | kartik_ | kevix: yes, I did. as I said Sarge was working fine with it, oh it still works but only with root account.. |
| 09:17.20 | Gnea | smoosh: maybe k3b isn't a good one... how about grip? |
| 09:17.38 | sanmarcos | can anbyody help me I followed the tutorial on autofs on debian administration.org fully, and autofs doesnt do anything when I plug a usb device, any ideas? I have the autfs4 module loaded |
| 09:17.49 | streuner_ | wth has k3b with grip to do? |
| 09:17.53 | kevix | kartik_: if you use it with sarge, record the output of 'lsmod' to a text file. this will be a big clue. |
| 09:18.02 | Gnea | streuner_: i already corrected that mistake. |
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| 09:18.25 | kartik_ | kevix: I mean I am able to connect internet but by only through root. I am not able to use it with normal user.. |
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| 09:18.38 | streuner_ | Gnea: yeah, i just see it yet :-) |
| 09:18.44 | Gnea | hehehe |
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| 09:19.02 | RainbowW | well convert will accept a fixed size for a conversion but it won't accept a percentage (i don't think) ... |
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| 09:19.12 | kevix | kartik_: that would probably be because your non-root user is not in the 'dip' group, iirc. |
| 09:19.16 | miki | how can i install N_HDLC.diff ? |
| 09:19.31 | Gnea | RainbowW: you may need to write a script with some fancy math. |
| 09:19.32 | kartik_ | kevix: dip? |
| 09:19.32 | streuner_ | miki: sounds like a patch? |
| 09:19.33 | miki | n_hdlc.c.diff |
| 09:19.33 | smoosh | Gnea: the time between cdcda2wav and kaudio are 50% of speed... but after run cdda2wav also kaudio go at 100%, but only after i've run cdcd2wav |
| 09:19.34 | cahoot | RainbowW: http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagick6/ |
| 09:19.43 | mutante | miki: generally you would install diff files with "patch" |
| 09:19.44 | streuner_ | miki: you don't install them |
| 09:19.47 | dimitri | hi, I have a server that I would like to share with another organism, My idea is two double everything 2 httpds, 2 maildaemons, 2 /home partitions, I have no idea how this is feasable but I have been told that there were a way to have two different OS sharing the same machine and that without one interfering with the other and 2 roots superusers, can someone advise me on the way to do this ? |
| 09:19.50 | kevix | kartik_: dip and dialout actually. |
| 09:19.58 | cahoot | RainbowW: mogrify will do what you want without any scripting |
| 09:20.01 | streuner_ | miki: you use patch to patch apps |
| 09:20.06 | Gnea | RainbowW: what cahoot said |
| 09:20.08 | kartik_ | kevix: got point! |
| 09:20.15 | kartik_ | kevix: thanks! |
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| 09:20.34 | kevix | kartik_: you can check by typing the 'id' command |
| 09:20.39 | liable | dimitri: look into 'user mode linux' |
| 09:20.39 | Gnea | smoosh: so what does cdcda2wav do that kaudio doesn't? :) |
| 09:20.46 | kartik_ | yeah |
| 09:21.00 | dimitri | liable: so that is feasable |
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| 09:21.09 | liable | dimitri: yes. |
| 09:21.17 | Gnea | liable: check out xen as well |
| 09:21.20 | Gnea | er |
| 09:21.25 | Gnea | dimitri: check out xen as well |
| 09:21.33 | smoosh | Gnea: i really don't know.... :) |
| 09:21.50 | dimitri | ok thanks |
| 09:22.02 | Gnea | smoosh: it's all open source... :) |
| 09:22.11 | tempy | hi all, debian newb attempting to set sshd to start on boot. does debian used an rc script for this? |
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| 09:22.22 | dimitri | Gnea: jsut Xen, I have a lot of entries in Google :S |
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| 09:22.28 | Gnea | tempy: no, debian uses the System V style |
| 09:22.41 | Gnea | tempy: zcat /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/README.runlevels.gz |
| 09:22.59 | tempy | Gnea: k |
| 09:23.00 | usrlocal | is there a very easy and very stable proxy/socks5 to install please ? (like the old Nec socks5) |
| 09:23.00 | kevix | tempy: Debian use sysv init script /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rcN.d/ |
| 09:23.07 | Gnea | dimitri: try: xen virtual |
| 09:23.21 | smoosh | Gnea: any other tips? :) |
| 09:23.31 | tempy | kevix: i have the /etc/init.d/ssh sorted, similar to gentoo but the runtime thing ... |
| 09:23.44 | Gnea | smoosh: apt-get source cdda2wav |
| 09:23.57 | sanmarcos | dpkg. autofs is also a hackish p.o.s |
| 09:24.00 | Gnea | tempy: you wanna use the update-rc.d command |
| 09:24.08 | sanmarcos | dpkg: autofs is also a hackish p.o.s |
| 09:24.09 | dpkg | okay, sanmarcos |
| 09:24.10 | tempy | k |
| 09:24.13 | kevix | tempy: debian defaults to runlevel 2. is ssh in there? |
| 09:24.16 | smoosh | Gnea: ok, thanks |
| 09:24.23 | tempy | update-rc.d ssh? |
| 09:24.31 | Gnea | man update-rc.d |
| 09:24.36 | tempy | kevix: nfi |
| 09:24.39 | topa_ | problem: trying to remove mozilla-thunderbird, seems to remove it and install 'thunderbird' package in it's place |
| 09:24.44 | tempy | Gnea: k, will do |
| 09:24.46 | unstable | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:24.47 | topa_ | how do I prevent that from happening ? |
| 09:24.59 | topa_ | I'm using apt-get |
| 09:25.10 | MasterTJ | My wife has this mp3 player that I want to get to work with linux. I want to set a custom /dev file for it. |
| 09:25.39 | MasterTJ | I've been messing around with local.rules in the udev rules directory but haven't had any luck. |
| 09:25.52 | dimitri | liable and Gnea ok they both looks good, but which one do you use ? I knwo I should read the docs |
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| 09:26.00 | mutante | didnt work to just mount as /dev/sda ? |
| 09:26.08 | kevix | tempy: ls /etc/rc2.d/*ssh |
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| 09:26.41 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 09:26.41 | dpkg | rumour has it, qotd90 is <rituraj> which disks have probs? sata? <directhex|work> rituraj, whatever's in my laptop, and i've heard people with i915 desktops failing installation <jim> then buy a controller put it in the pci slot and be done with it <directhex|work> jim, what a fucking useless waste of time and money for all concerned <directhex|work> jim, and handily, there are hundreds of pci disk controllers for laptops, aren't there |
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| 09:27.17 | kevix | MasterTJ: first get it to work with /dev/sda1 or similar (check /var/log/messages for clues) |
| 09:27.18 | MasterTJ | mutante, It does work. but she's not a regular linux user. I want to setup the custom dev so I can setup a easy to use icon for it. |
| 09:27.20 | tempy | kevix: /etc/rc2.d/S20ssh |
| 09:27.54 | kevix | tempy: so if you do: ssh user:localhost it should work? |
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| 09:28.14 | tempy | kevix: from an external source? |
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| 09:28.42 | asterX_ba | hello |
| 09:28.50 | kevix | tempy: try from you local account first, then from an externeal |
| 09:28.52 | MasterTJ | kevix mutante, problem is that I use other usb storage devices so it needs it's own identity even when I have to reboot. |
| 09:28.54 | tempy | k |
| 09:29.01 | usrlocal | is it secure to setup a debian proxy with iptables or ipchaines please ? |
| 09:29.29 | asterX_ba | I'd like to use Debian as a server (LAMP, mail, ftp,dns) |
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| 09:29.41 | tarzeau | asterX_ba: go ahead, just do it(tm) |
| 09:29.52 | tempy | kevix: nameor service not known |
| 09:29.52 | asterX_ba | is it a good idea? where may I find a tutorial? |
| 09:29.54 | MasterTJ | kevix mutante, I can get it to mount fine, she just needs it to work simply. |
| 09:30.02 | kevix | MasterTJ: so you need to create a udev rule. the thing I remember is to find a unique id for udev to use to find the device. |
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| 09:30.22 | mutante | MasterTJ: ehmm,so if you put it in /etc/fstab and then execute mount -a in shell script which is started by clicking a desktop icon |
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| 09:30.24 | arcanusx | anyone else got problems installing manpages-dev_2.25-2 ? |
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| 09:30.53 | yos87 | Hi |
| 09:30.56 | yos87 | how to diable the DMA? |
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| 09:31.41 | kevix | tempy: what about 'pgrep sshd' ? |
| 09:31.44 | NeoZero | asterX_ba: download the latest debian stable release, apt-get install apache, apt-get install mysql, apt-get install php5, apt-get install proftpd bind and whatever else |
| 09:31.46 | asterX_ba | do I need to install KDE/GNOME on a server? |
| 09:31.57 | liable | asterX_ba: god no. |
| 09:32.02 | mutante | yos87: a page from 2000 says: echo "using_dma:0" > /proc/ide/hda/settings |
| 09:32.05 | tarzeau | asterX_ba: no |
| 09:32.07 | tempy | kevix: 5846 ... seems to be there |
| 09:32.13 | Gnea | who the *HELL* installs X on a server? |
| 09:32.19 | tarzeau | Gnea: me |
| 09:32.25 | Gnea | tarzeau: retard. |
| 09:32.27 | tarzeau | Gnea: no way i install gnome/kde though |
| 09:32.28 | arcanusx | Gnea: xserver perhaps ;) |
| 09:32.30 | tarzeau | Gnea: x clients |
| 09:32.32 | tempy | haha |
| 09:32.34 | asterX_ba | I think it's not needed |
| 09:32.40 | tarzeau | Gnea: like xosview |
| 09:32.43 | yos87 | mutante: I didn't understand you, I remember there is way to disable it through hdpram ! |
| 09:32.44 | tarzeau | Gnea: that's not retard |
| 09:32.49 | asterX_ba | I'll just install ssh server |
| 09:33.10 | liable | yos87: yes, so why dont you read hdparms man page? or a tutorial? |
| 09:33.17 | mutante | yos87: "This will do it via the procfs" - hdparm -d0 /dev/hda "via hdparm -d0 /dev/hda" |
| 09:33.22 | arcanusx | yos87: hdparm -d0 |
| 09:33.28 | mutante | arg,bad pasting |
| 09:33.31 | mutante | what he said |
| 09:33.39 | yos87 | liable: how are you? |
| 09:33.46 | yos87 | liable: I read it many time ! |
| 09:33.46 | Gnea | arcanusx: right, no xserver on a server... whole window managers? just as much of a waste unless it's for thinclients :) |
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| 09:33.52 | liable | yos87: pretty good. |
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| 09:34.30 | arcanusx | Gnea: true :) |
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| 09:34.48 | asterX_ba | so, when installing Debian it will ask what packages to install: Desktop Environment, Web Server etc etc |
| 09:34.54 | rm-Rf | Hi, command for trashing a file? |
| 09:34.55 | asterX_ba | what must I do? |
| 09:34.57 | tempy | rm-RF: cool nick |
| 09:35.12 | tempy | rm -f /path/to/file |
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| 09:35.27 | arcanusx | rm -rf if its a folder |
| 09:35.27 | rm-Rf | tempy: hehe |
| 09:35.30 | kevix | asterX_ba: debian can be install in as little as 500mb. you install what suites your needed. |
| 09:35.53 | rm-Rf | tempy: no, the trashing commad, when you write over and over the file with random data |
| 09:36.13 | tempy | rm-RF: ah cat /dev/null > /path/to/file ? |
| 09:36.35 | arcanusx | rm-Rf: shred overwrites a couple of times, man shred ;) |
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| 09:37.40 | rm-Rf | arcanusx: yep, thanks |
| 09:37.44 | rm-Rf | tempy: tnx |
| 09:37.45 | arcanusx | np |
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| 09:38.57 | arcanusx | anyone else get the dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/manpages-dev_2.25-2_all.deb (--unpack): while installing? |
| 09:39.25 | dimitri | is there a channel for user-linux-mode ? |
| 09:39.36 | kevix | acollins: have you checked: http://bugs.debian.org/manpages-dev |
| 09:39.48 | arcanusx | nope, yt |
| 09:39.50 | arcanusx | *ty |
| 09:39.56 | kevix | arcanusx: : have you checked: http://bugs.debian.org/manpages-dev |
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| 09:41.35 | ChewY | any way i can let windows vpn clients connect to linux? |
| 09:41.41 | ChewY | what do i need to setup? samba? |
| 09:42.10 | Gnea | !bts |
| 09:42.10 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 09:43.02 | nima | does the CACert.org root certificate come with firfox now/ |
| 09:43.03 | nima | ? |
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| 09:43.27 | nima | i dont remember if i installed it myself or not |
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| 09:45.04 | RainbowW | you could open it up and look. |
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| 09:47.35 | tempy | kevix: from reading man update-rc.d, it seems that my /etc/rc2.d/S20ssh is correct. Is that statement correct? |
| 09:47.47 | nima | RainbowW, doesn't say |
| 09:48.41 | rm-Rf | Is there a utility to see on the fly read/write from and to the hard disk? |
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| 09:53.04 | Gnea | !dbugs 364398 |
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| 09:53.09 | dpkg | #364398:N[nvidia-kernel-source] crash when starting xorg using nvidia driver; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 06:33:02 UTC |
| 09:53.25 | Gnea | yup, someone reported it |
| 09:53.32 | Gnea | as a 'normal' bug at that - fucking asshat! |
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| 09:53.45 | arcanusx | !dbugs 360843 |
| 09:53.49 | dpkg | #360843:S[manpages-dev] manpages-dev tries to overwrite files from modutils (create_module.2.gz); Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:48:02 UTC |
| 09:54.17 | Gnea | actually, my bug is a bit different (i have an idea WHY it's crashing at least) |
| 09:55.15 | RainbowW | okay, it is official: mogrify, while effective, is Slow. |
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| 09:55.34 | Smarty | http://s5.bitefight.net/c.php?uid=27402 |
| 09:55.40 | kevix | tempy: was away.... opps. yes S20ssh is correct. |
| 09:55.41 | Smarty | i have an error |
| 09:55.56 | Smarty | in my page |
| 09:56.05 | Smarty | in debian linuks http://s5.bitefight.net/c.php?uid=27402 :S |
| 09:56.15 | Smarty | but others page can be shown ? |
| 09:57.16 | tempy | kevix: np, k, so it seem right to start on boot. i tried 'nc localhost 8787' got output indicating ssh is working |
| 09:57.16 | liable | dont spam here |
| 09:57.32 | tfan | Hi, Under a install of the newest testbuild of the AMD 64 version of debian, I get the following error during the installation of the base system: Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc - Can anyone help solving this issue that I'm experiencing? :( |
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| 09:58.09 | liable | tfan: you didnt ask this the other day did you? with a different nick? |
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| 09:58.27 | liable | tfan: if not, then it seems its a bug in the installer. |
| 09:58.28 | NeoZero | hi RinzeWind :-P |
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| 09:58.59 | WarShrike | hey guys |
| 09:59.03 | nima | hello |
| 09:59.17 | WarShrike | I need a bit of help installing the nVidia drivers the debian way |
| 09:59.26 | kevix | liable: someone on debian-user asked about the same thing with in the last day or so |
| 10:00.19 | liable | kevix: right, someone here did too. |
| 10:00.23 | WarShrike | I'm trying to install the nvidia-glx libraries, but whenever I do so, it wants to remove like 20 packages |
| 10:00.25 | WarShrike | lol |
| 10:00.31 | kevix | WarShrike: did you get the 'nv' driver working? |
| 10:01.00 | WarShrike | the official nvidia driver? I don't seem to be able to close X in telinit 3 |
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| 10:01.16 | WarShrike | i'm pretty new to debian |
| 10:01.31 | RainbowW | okay. so. i guess if i shut down boinc, mogrify will run faster. meh. |
| 10:01.38 | Gnea | WarShrike: sarge, etch or sid? |
| 10:01.42 | WarShrike | sarge |
| 10:01.52 | Gnea | !tell WarShrike about nvidia one-liner |
| 10:01.58 | Gnea | there you have it :) |
| 10:02.11 | kevix | WarShrike: debian does not use redhat runlevels, the default is run level 2 (2-5 are the same) |
| 10:02.19 | finn_ | !tell me about nvidia one-liner |
| 10:02.30 | RainbowW | !tell me about nvidia one-liner |
| 10:02.38 | WarShrike | ah :) |
| 10:02.39 | WarShrike | thanks |
| 10:02.50 | RainbowW | cool |
| 10:02.55 | WarShrike | so how do I switch to that? still telinit 2? |
| 10:03.22 | RainbowW | no. it's the default. don't touch. |
| 10:03.47 | WarShrike | yeah, but the installer won't go ahead unless I close X |
| 10:03.54 | kevix | WarShrike: you should be at RL 2. but you can switch to 3. its all the same unless you edit things. |
| 10:04.16 | WarShrike | ah :) |
| 10:04.28 | WarShrike | so how would I close x for the installer? |
| 10:04.30 | RainbowW | bwahahaha. 14382 messages outbound. how hysterically funny. |
| 10:04.35 | WarShrike | LOL |
| 10:05.04 | oldman | !nvidia |
| 10:05.04 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 10:05.22 | WarShrike | !nvidia installer |
| 10:05.22 | dpkg | well, nvidia-installer is a clever cross-platform way of installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, which works fine on systems with stupid package managers (i.e. not so good with Debian). more specifically, prone to dying if any X or kernel related packages are upgraded or removed. see <nvidia-graphics-drivers>, or <nvidia one-liner> |
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| 10:05.25 | bizkit | is there a way to get scp remove the local file if copy was successful? sth. like a smv.. any ideas? |
| 10:05.36 | kevix | WarShrike: you mean like 'killall X' ? |
| 10:05.51 | WarShrike | yeah, but if what I think is true, i better not use the installer LOL |
| 10:05.52 | RainbowW | warshrike, do !tell me about nvidia-installer ... that will have dpkg send it to you in a /msg, rather than flood the channel |
| 10:06.09 | WarShrike | actually i read that before, just someone was telling me to use the installer anyways :P |
| 10:06.11 | WarShrike | lol, sorry |
| 10:06.27 | Gnea | RainbowW: you could also run boinc like this: renice +20 `ps axf | grep boinc | awk '{print $1}'` :) |
| 10:06.28 | Eulex | RainbowW & WarShrike, even better /msg dpkg nvidia-installer, for example |
| 10:06.36 | WarShrike | cool |
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| 10:07.13 | tarzeau | debian has got 1701 maintainers now |
| 10:07.30 | RainbowW | gnea, i could, but i use a boinc package from i forget where, so it's just sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client stop && mogrify -resize 50% * && sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client start ;-) |
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| 10:07.58 | freanki | hi, my helvetica font is only available in iso8859-2 to 14 but not 1 and 15, the ones I need! Does someone know how to get it working with these ISO's? |
| 10:07.59 | kevix | bizkit: scp is only for copying. |
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| 10:08.16 | Gnea | RainbowW: that's probably more efficient ;) |
| 10:09.24 | ekix | anybody workin on milo images for etch/alpha? |
| 10:09.33 | tarzeau | ekix: tried #alpha ? |
| 10:09.36 | kevix | tarzeau: where did you get the # from? last I heard it was 1000+. wow! |
| 10:09.41 | ekix | tarzeau, lol :) |
| 10:09.56 | RainbowW | except i need to learn enough bash to make the script mogrify recursively (and set/check for a semphore so it doesn't redo done directories) ... |
| 10:10.05 | WarShrike | thanks guys, this page looks like it has all that I need :) |
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| 10:10.14 | ekix | tarzeau, perhaps is should bother mellum about it |
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| 10:10.47 | tarzeau | ekix: perhaps, yes |
| 10:11.40 | RainbowW | and if i was really smart i'd do a pretty rename at the same time. but i'm nowhere near that damned smart. |
| 10:11.50 | RainbowW | heck, i could even set it up on a crontab! |
| 10:12.27 | liable | kevix: might be diff maint DD |
| 10:12.31 | liable | ?? |
| 10:13.09 | RainbowW | eulex: lack of time to learn bash shell scripting. spending too much time staring at pr0n. |
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| 10:13.52 | kevix | RainbowW: I save time by scripting my pr0n! |
| 10:13.56 | liable | is there any bluetooth channels? |
| 10:14.18 | Quiznos | morning. on 2.4.32, while switching tty's via alt-left/right, i have twice happened upon an allocated and unused graphic screen and became stuck there; also, kbd was also ignored: no keys, led, sysrq. comments/questions pls? |
| 10:14.18 | RainbowW | Kevix: since i work for the site, and i get paid ... like ... money ... scripting is a bad idea. |
| 10:14.21 | Roots | Has anyone experienced a problem in Gnome where when you click "Applications" the menu comes up for a split-second and then disappears? Both the "Places" and "Desktop" menus work fine for me, but not Applications.... :( |
| 10:14.24 | Eulex | RainbowW, hehe :) anyway, you should be able to mogrify recursively with something like for i in `find`; do mogrify $i; done |
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| 10:15.14 | RainbowW | eulex: needs to be smarter than that, i don't to re-mog stuff i've already done. hence the semaphore file. i know, not hard, but still. |
| 10:16.23 | Eulex | RainbowW, ah, ok |
| 10:16.33 | quitte | in spain i had this problem in internet caffes that they would allow me to plug the net in my own device - but then i couldnt get a dhcp lease. i guess this is some problem of not being part of the windows domain or not having a kerberos ticket. any idea what i could have done? |
| 10:16.38 | Quiznos | was my post too long? |
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| 10:17.09 | Braindead | quitte: ask the local sysadmin? |
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| 10:17.30 | quitte | Braindead: who? it is spain ;) |
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| 10:17.37 | RainbowW | quitte: what the hell kind of public internet cafe requires a kerberos anything to get a dhcp lease? duh what? and in general you have to be able to get a lease to attach yourself to the domain in the first place. |
| 10:17.52 | liable | Quiznos: did you try crtl+alt+F? |
| 10:17.54 | leikh | will changing my deskstar jumper settings from 16 heads to 15 affect data stored on it? |
| 10:18.01 | quitte | i just dont have a clue. it just didn'T work and im wondering why |
| 10:18.09 | Quiznos | liable, in what context? |
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| 10:18.14 | Braindead | quitte: then ask a magician/sensitive/fortune teller. how can we know how those internet cafe in spain are setted up? |
| 10:18.23 | Eulex | RainbowW, shouldn't be too hard, just test for a specific file that is the original file name with something appended or prepended, then if it's not foun just touch the semaphore file and mogrify the image |
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| 10:18.45 | liable | Quiznos: from a working x tty, you need ctrl+alt+F1 to get back to console |
| 10:18.57 | Quiznos | liable, i didnt imply nor do i use x11 |
| 10:19.00 | RainbowW | eulex: i know it's not hard. i used to do it in DOS batch files. :) |
| 10:19.16 | Quiznos | liable, tty are console, terms are x11 |
| 10:19.22 | Eulex | RainbowW, oh, hehe :) |
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| 10:20.13 | liable | Quiznos: thanks for the lecture. good luck. |
| 10:20.51 | Quiznos | liable your question is appreciated but you made the wrong turn descending my post; not I |
| 10:20.58 | Quiznos | s/descending/parsing |
| 10:21.03 | Quiznos | :> |
| 10:21.23 | quitte | Quiznos: what graphical whatever are you talking about? |
| 10:21.30 | Gnea | !bullshit |
| 10:21.30 | Quiznos | non-gui |
| 10:21.30 | dpkg | DRINK! |
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| 10:22.51 | quitte | non-gui graphical screen locking up your tty? doesn't sound like debian to me and i have no clue what you are talking about |
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| 10:23.10 | Quiznos | such as links graphic mode |
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| 10:23.18 | exit | what's the best channel for help? |
| 10:23.22 | Gnea | links has a graphical mode? |
| 10:23.25 | Quiznos | yes |
| 10:23.35 | tarzeau | links2 |
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| 10:23.42 | tarzeau | Gnea: links2 -g or xlinks, yes |
| 10:23.43 | Quiznos | but the problem is in tty switching code |
| 10:23.48 | Gnea | exit: the channel that you need help in |
| 10:24.02 | Gnea | oh, probably calling zgv |
| 10:24.08 | Quiznos | nop |
| 10:24.16 | Gnea | if the framebuffer is turned on, there'll probably be a conflict |
| 10:24.20 | quitte | Quiznos: svga or framebuffer? |
| 10:24.23 | Quiznos | both |
| 10:24.28 | Gnea | ah |
| 10:24.30 | Gnea | there ya go |
| 10:24.37 | RainbowW | how does one recursively count the number of files in .? |
| 10:24.42 | Quiznos | it has never happened before |
| 10:24.42 | kevix | !info links2 |
| 10:24.43 | Gnea | do yourself a favor and turn the fb off |
| 10:24.47 | dpkg | links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre21-1+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 2031 kB, Installed size: 3200 kB |
| 10:24.54 | tarzeau | RainbowW: find . | wc -l more or less |
| 10:25.02 | Gnea | RainbowW: find . -type f | wc -l |
| 10:25.02 | erudified | Pretty much all webservers return an appropriate rfc-whatever date header, right? what do you guys think the best way to handle improper dates would be, in terms of caching data? |
| 10:25.39 | RainbowW | hrm. 22 hours to mogrify everything in the directory. that's bad. |
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| 10:26.01 | Gnea | RainbowW: i could make 2,000 pizzas in that time, at least :D |
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| 10:26.18 | dazjorz | Hi |
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| 10:26.37 | dazjorz | I've recompiled Postfix with a patch, and I'm afraid that if I call apt-get upgrade, it will overwrite Postfix |
| 10:26.43 | RainbowW | i worked at a dominos once where we took an order for a thousand pizzas. we turned on the second oven and made that fucker spit out some food. |
| 10:26.46 | dazjorz | How to disable that? |
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| 10:27.00 | Quiznos | ty |
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| 10:27.22 | Braindead | dazjorz: make a phony .deb with equivs that provides mail-transport-agent and such |
| 10:27.35 | dazjorz | I'm sorry? |
| 10:27.48 | dazjorz | I've got some debs with postfix in it |
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| 10:27.50 | dazjorz | that's allright |
| 10:27.57 | dazjorz | there was this command... |
| 10:27.57 | Braindead | ah you packaged it |
| 10:27.58 | dazjorz | something like |
| 10:28.02 | cahoot | Braindead: simply putting postfix on hold is useless? |
| 10:28.02 | Braindead | then just hold it |
| 10:28.17 | dazjorz | dpkg --lock postfix |
| 10:28.17 | dazjorz | or hold |
| 10:28.17 | Gnea | RainbowW: dominos has a shitty oven. papa johns dual-ovens can put out 4 at once, one right after another |
| 10:28.32 | dazjorz | dpkg hold postfix; dpkg hold postfix-mysql; dpkg hold postfix-tls; ? |
| 10:28.37 | Gnea | RainbowW: they do have nice dough cutters tho :) |
| 10:28.44 | RainbowW | lol |
| 10:28.47 | dazjorz | allright? |
| 10:28.50 | Braindead | aptitude hold FOO or dpkg hold |
| 10:28.51 | RainbowW | i dunno, i just drove. and not long at that. |
| 10:28.59 | Gnea | oh fuck... lol |
| 10:29.02 | dazjorz | okay |
| 10:29.04 | Gnea | i did that for the longest time |
| 10:29.04 | gnufan | dazjorz: what did you patch postfix for BTW? |
| 10:29.08 | dazjorz | thanks, braindead :) |
| 10:29.10 | tarzeau | Gnea: tried xlinks2 yet? |
| 10:29.12 | dazjorz | gnufan: Quotas. |
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| 10:29.24 | Gnea | tarzeau: naw, still trying to fix my nvidia problem |
| 10:29.26 | dazjorz | gnufan: There's a patch to make postfix(-mysql) understand quota's. |
| 10:30.07 | dazjorz | ehh |
| 10:30.13 | dazjorz | dpkg hold postfix |
| 10:30.13 | dazjorz | dpkg: need an action option |
| 10:30.29 | dazjorz | and aptitude hold postfix gives me loads of lines |
| 10:30.35 | dazjorz | including: |
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| 10:30.35 | dazjorz | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 10:30.35 | dazjorz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.37 | dazjorz | think that's allright |
| 10:30.49 | dazjorz | mm no |
| 10:30.51 | Braindead | it's all right as long as you keep on using aptitude,of course |
| 10:30.55 | Braindead | aptitude-doc-en |
| 10:31.05 | dazjorz | apt-get upgrade will try to upgrade postfix postfix-mysql postfix-tls |
| 10:31.11 | kevix | tarzeau: whats xlinks2? are you going to ITP it? |
| 10:31.14 | ChewY | how can i find out where my config files for openvpn were put? |
| 10:31.17 | dazjorz | is it dpkg hold <package> or dpkg --hold <package> ? |
| 10:31.23 | dazjorz | or dpkg-deb hold <package>... |
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| 10:31.31 | tarzeau | kevix: it's a wrapper calling links2 with -g. for the menu and x-www-browser alternatives |
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| 10:31.36 | tarzeau | kevix: apt-get install links2 |
| 10:31.41 | tarzeau | kevix: it's there since years |
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| 10:32.18 | kevix | dazjorz: I love aptitude just search with / for the pkg then use '=' to hold it. |
| 10:32.21 | just_me | hi |
| 10:32.23 | ChewY | anyone know how i can find out where config files goes after debian installs a package? |
| 10:32.25 | RainbowW | is there a good howto on learning bash shell scripting somewhere? |
| 10:32.34 | Braindead | RainbowW: yes. it's on google. |
| 10:32.45 | kevix | tarzeau: never noticed it. x-) |
| 10:32.53 | maurin | any one use damn amll linux |
| 10:33.00 | liable | RainbowW: /j #bash and read the topic or check out tldp.org |
| 10:33.03 | kevix | ChewY: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 10:33.09 | dazjorz | Nope |
| 10:33.17 | liable | maurin: no we use debian |
| 10:33.17 | dazjorz | pastebinning... |
| 10:33.33 | superlinux | maurin, supposed to be a modified debian? |
| 10:33.41 | maurin | weher to find help for damn small linux |
| 10:33.57 | superlinux | what do you want from it? |
| 10:34.10 | superlinux | which kinda help |
| 10:34.12 | liable | maurin: #damnsmalllinux |
| 10:34.14 | maurin | i cant conect to the internet |
| 10:34.19 | liable | maurin: or maybe #dsl |
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| 10:34.20 | maurin | thanks |
| 10:34.39 | ChewY | kevix: ok, how do i use this directory to help me? |
| 10:34.49 | dazjorz | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2415 |
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| 10:35.12 | Braindead | dazjorz: 12:30 < Braindead> it's all right as long as you keep on using aptitude,of course |
| 10:35.15 | Braindead | 12:30 < Braindead> aptitude-doc-en |
| 10:35.24 | dazjorz | Braindead: Yes, I saw that, but I'm using apt-get always |
| 10:35.32 | dazjorz | braindead: there's no such thing as apt-get hold afaik |
| 10:35.39 | kevix | ChewY: it contains post install, post remove, pre install, pre remove scripts and installed file list and config files controlled by dpkg. |
| 10:35.40 | Braindead | that's what I'm telling ya |
| 10:35.41 | gnufan | ChewY: dpkg -L <packagename> -- it is debian they go in /etc somewhere |
| 10:35.45 | Braindead | APTITUDE dist-upgrade |
| 10:36.06 | dazjorz | Braindead: I need to prevent upgrading these three packages, even when using apt-get |
| 10:36.07 | Braindead | in case you hadn't noticed: yes,you should really learn to use aptitude |
| 10:36.18 | valdyn | !pin |
| 10:36.19 | dpkg | hmm... pin is a small bolt, or also see pinning |
| 10:36.21 | Braindead | dazjorz: echo "FOO hold" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 10:36.22 | valdyn | !pinning |
| 10:36.22 | dpkg | apt-pinning is probably read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 10:36.28 | valdyn | dazjorz: ^^^ |
| 10:36.31 | dazjorz | Thanks, that's what I needed, braindead! |
| 10:37.04 | maurin | me again in the #damnsmalllinux no bady home cane any one here help me |
| 10:37.11 | maurin | wiht internet conection |
| 10:37.25 | valdyn | maurin: damnsmalllinux is not debian |
| 10:37.38 | maurin | ? |
| 10:37.38 | raf256 | http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=15034 - "wine" stoped working after some upgrades, perhaps one of my libs is borked? |
| 10:37.50 | Eulex | !based on debian |
| 10:37.50 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 10:37.58 | dazjorz | mm |
| 10:37.59 | dazjorz | "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process" |
| 10:38.02 | dazjorz | dpkg isn't running |
| 10:38.18 | kevix | dz |
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| 10:38.36 | kevix | dazjorz: how about apt-get, aptitude, feta or wajig? |
| 10:39.18 | dazjorz | Okay, selections are set, thanks! |
| 10:39.25 | dazjorz | =D |
| 10:39.31 | dazjorz | apt-get upgrade works now |
| 10:39.40 | dazjorz | thanks, braindead and all others! |
| 10:40.57 | tarzeau | Firehand: In Karate is nice |
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| 10:42.54 | ali_ | hey all |
| 10:43.20 | RainbowW | okay, so, please tell me if i did this right: http://pastebin.com/676598 |
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| 10:44.15 | MarcoPau | I want to install grub on my mbr, but grub-install will freeze on my debian sid, and lilo will be still booting each time. Any hints? |
| 10:44.16 | valdyn | RainbowW: right, i dont know, but why does that script operate on $PWD ? |
| 10:44.37 | RainbowW | valdyn: on eh? |
| 10:44.50 | valdyn | RainbowW: why do you let it operate on the current directory? |
| 10:45.08 | RainbowW | because switching directories is not the part i'm having a problem understanding. :) |
| 10:45.34 | quitte | does someone here have channel logs? |
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| 10:46.07 | exit | does anyone here from matrox dual head on x? |
| 10:46.16 | tarzeau | exit: yes |
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| 10:46.22 | liable | quitte: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/ |
| 10:46.22 | exit | i'm trying to install the mtx drivers but it's saying my source tree it missing |
| 10:46.22 | valet | i live in Russian |
| 10:46.23 | RainbowW | exit: i did it on a 450 once. |
| 10:46.25 | tarzeau | exit: w/ stable at work |
| 10:46.31 | quitte | liable thanks |
| 10:46.41 | tarzeau | exit: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/atwerk.jpg |
| 10:46.51 | exit | so i unpacked the source but it's still got the same error |
| 10:47.01 | exit | can't view pics atm as in console |
| 10:47.12 | liable | !ru |
| 10:47.12 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 10:47.41 | ChewY | sigh |
| 10:47.50 | ChewY | does anyone know where the openvpn config files are supposed to go |
| 10:47.59 | ChewY | ive spent 30 minuites with locate and man and html |
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| 10:48.02 | exit | what is the best way to have the source where it should be so the mtx and patch or copy what ever it needS? sorry i've got limited understanding |
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| 10:48.11 | Braindead | ChewY: dpkg -L openvpn |
| 10:48.21 | ChewY | and that, it doesn't say |
| 10:48.23 | Braindead | ChewY: and /usr/share/doc/openvpn/ is your friend |
| 10:48.43 | exit | and my food is burning |
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| 10:50.05 | Braindead | ChewY: /usr/share/doc/openvpn/README.Debian to be precise. /usr/share/doc really is your friend... |
| 10:50.38 | quitte | liable: unfortunately doesn'T go back in time enough |
| 10:51.33 | RainbowW | yawn ... back to staring at pr0n. |
| 10:51.44 | liable | quitte: damn. how far back do you need? |
| 10:52.14 | quitte | 3 years 27 weeks 4 days (7h 10m 4s) ago <- short period before that |
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| 10:52.59 | Fab_Parma | hi |
| 10:53.24 | Fab_Parma | all sleeps |
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| 10:53.53 | Fab_Parma | ! dualboot |
| 10:53.53 | dpkg | you have two hard drives... only some rich bastard would have more then one hard drive |
| 10:54.31 | Fab_Parma | ! dualboot same disk |
| 10:55.07 | quitte | Fab_Parma: please msg the bot |
| 10:55.28 | Fab_Parma | i done |
| 10:55.30 | liable | quitte: out of interest, why that time period? |
| 10:56.10 | Fab_Parma | i would like to instal 3 differet disro on a hd |
| 10:56.20 | RainbowW | Fab_Parma: forget it. |
| 10:56.24 | valet | dvrghy |
| 10:56.26 | quitte | liable: out of interest ;) i want to know the exact time and the reason i was told to go to #debian-anarchy |
| 10:56.32 | dazjorz | Fab_Parma: use partitions |
| 10:56.45 | Fab_Parma | grub in not able to manage ir? |
| 10:56.55 | tarzeau | Fab_Parma: that's the BIOS |
| 10:56.57 | dazjorz | probably |
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| 10:57.35 | Fab_Parma | the biso accept up 4 partition |
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| 10:57.38 | Usiu | Hi |
| 10:57.43 | Usiu | Why scons doesnt work ? |
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| 10:57.48 | liable | quitte: heh, what was that channel for? |
| 10:57.53 | Usiu | ImportError: No module named SCons.Script |
| 10:57.54 | Usiu | ?? |
| 10:58.04 | Fab_Parma | tarzeau: the bios accept up to 4 partition |
| 10:58.05 | Gnea | Fab_Parma: it can be done |
| 10:58.05 | multi_io | when I call update-alternatives --config <name> and select a choice, the corresponding links in /etc/alternatives are updated, but the "generic" links in /usr/bin, /usr/share/man etc. are not recreated (which they usually don't need to be, since they don't change). However, for some reason those "generic" links are missing on my system for some link groups. How can I recreate them? |
| 10:58.07 | quitte | liable: it was empty. so i registered it. now it is for the debian sh port |
| 10:58.25 | Gnea | Fab_Parma: only 4? what happened to 15? |
| 10:58.26 | valet | hi |
| 10:58.27 | Usiu | looks like python doesnt see its imports |
| 10:58.48 | Fab_Parma | Gnea: logical as many you want |
| 10:58.53 | liable | quitte: oh. |
| 10:59.04 | Gnea | Fab_Parma: but it's about what you want, is it not? |
| 10:59.26 | valdyn | what does a bios know about partitions? |
| 10:59.30 | Fab_Parma | Gnea: but primari maximum 4 at the moment, but soon we'll have the xbios |
| 10:59.35 | tarzeau | valdyn: nothing at all |
| 10:59.41 | valdyn | tarzeau: yep |
| 11:00.01 | Gnea | Fab_Parma: let's cut the crap - you want to install 3 distros on one hd, right? |
| 11:00.06 | x`y`-xy | how can make a boot disk 3" ...and after install debian with this one ..cause i dont have now a CD ROM ( i don't speak verry good english) |
| 11:00.09 | Fab_Parma | Gnea: its written in the first part of the disk |
| 11:00.12 | valdyn | Fab_Parma: that is more an ms dos legacy |
| 11:00.17 | valet | fak you |
| 11:00.17 | Gnea | Fab_Parma: i know how it works. |
| 11:00.43 | valdyn | Fab_Parma: these are called 'dos partition tables' |
| 11:00.47 | x`y`-xy | hlp me pls !! |
| 11:00.48 | Fab_Parma | nirmally a loader like grub shoul manage tis work |
| 11:00.54 | Gnea | !pls |
| 11:00.54 | dpkg | Cud u plz spk englsh bcuz wen u spk lke ths u luk lke a moron. |
| 11:01.20 | Gnea | !fr |
| 11:01.20 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 11:03.13 | Fab_Parma | the real question is , can i install "grub" once that the system its uo and work correctly? |
| 11:03.25 | Gnea | sure |
| 11:03.45 | Fab_Parma | i tried many times with apt |
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| 11:03.59 | Gnea | you must've forgotten something |
| 11:04.29 | Fab_Parma | but at the boot there is not,, and in the system as well |
| 11:04.31 | x`y`-xy | how can make a boot disk 3" ...and after install debian with this one ..cause i dont have now a CD ROM ( i don't speak verry good english, i'm romanian) |
| 11:04.38 | Gnea | anyone can install grub, but who can write a menu.lst? |
| 11:04.46 | Gnea | !tell x`y`-xy about repeat |
| 11:04.47 | Gnea | !tell x`y`-xy about fr |
| 11:05.11 | Gnea | !sunday |
| 11:05.12 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 11:05.54 | x`y`-xy | Gnea ....i am in fr..but i'm not a fr ...i don't speak fr |
| 11:06.05 | Gnea | x`y`-xy: well what DO you speak? |
| 11:06.17 | x`y`-xy | roamanian |
| 11:06.21 | x`y`-xy | romanian |
| 11:06.36 | kevix | tarzeau: is there a guide to translate from debian gnu/linux to debian gnu/kfreebsd? hint! |
| 11:06.40 | Gnea | what's the country code for romania? .ro? |
| 11:06.48 | x`y`-xy | yes |
| 11:06.50 | tarzeau | kevix: just download the install cd and install it, #gnu-kbsd |
| 11:06.58 | cahoot | Fab_Parma: don't know if I've understood your question coorectly - but- in y experience the sarge install detected the winxp on my laptop and made a fully working grub setup for dual booting |
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| 11:07.28 | tarzeau | Gnea: yes |
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| 11:07.44 | tarzeau | Gnea: i'd like a tld .rofl |
| 11:07.51 | tarzeau | Gnea: and .lol and .stfu |
| 11:07.56 | tarzeau | where can i request them? |
| 11:07.58 | ^geekgirl^ | my GPL codes at -> http://usuarios.lycos.es/sosweet19/ |
| 11:07.59 | Gnea | x`y`-xy: ok - well first off, you said 'boot disk 3"' - are you asking how you can make a boot disk without a cdrom? |
| 11:08.05 | Gnea | ^geekgirl^: and they SUCK |
| 11:08.18 | Gnea | !troll ^geekgirl^ |
| 11:08.20 | x`y`-xy | yes |
| 11:08.37 | Gnea | tarzeau: /. |
| 11:08.42 | tarzeau | Gnea: hehehe |
| 11:08.45 | Gnea | :) |
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| 11:09.01 | asdrubalexz | hello |
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| 11:10.31 | x`y`-xy | i dont have now a cd rom just this pc without a cd ....internet line, and another PC without OS ...i want to instal Debian online ...but i need the startup disk ...if its posible on a disket 3" |
| 11:10.38 | tengulre | HI,all, good afternoon here! |
| 11:10.45 | asdrubalexz | hello |
| 11:10.54 | asdrubalexz | can I ask you a question? |
| 11:11.23 | kevix | !dpkg ask |
| 11:11.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 11:11.41 | asdrubalexz | ok ;;) |
| 11:11.43 | asdrubalexz | *;) |
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| 11:12.11 | asdrubalexz | when installing Debian it asks me what packages to install |
| 11:12.13 | Gnea | x`y`-xy: ah yes, the floppy images are available via http and ftp |
| 11:12.22 | asdrubalexz | Desktop Environment, Web server, SQL etc |
| 11:12.29 | x`y`-xy | where ? |
| 11:12.34 | kevix | asdrubalexz: those are called 'tasks' |
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| 11:12.50 | Gnea | x`y`-xy: have you downloaded debian before? |
| 11:12.53 | liable | !tell x`y`-xy about sarge floppies |
| 11:12.56 | x`y`-xy | Gnea where ...cause at debian.org ...i don't found it |
| 11:12.58 | x`y`-xy | ok |
| 11:13.15 | x`y`-xy | thx |
| 11:13.17 | x`y`-xy | a lot |
| 11:13.32 | Gnea | no problem - and it's 'thanks', not 'thx' :) |
| 11:13.41 | x`y`-xy | :p |
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| 11:13.57 | Gnea | !thx |
| 11:13.58 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas, named after THX1138, Lucas' first movie. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. |
| 11:14.00 | asdrubalexz | kevix: how may I choose more than a task? |
| 11:14.11 | asdrubalexz | eg. SQL, Webserver and DNS |
| 11:14.20 | Eulex | asdrubalexz, just select more than one? |
| 11:14.33 | liable | asdrubalexz: hit the space bar then arrow down to the next one.. |
| 11:14.42 | Gnea | asdrubalexz: space bar, down arrow. space bar, down arrow |
| 11:14.46 | kevix | asdrubalexz: use the enter/return key or just dont hit any and use 'tasksel' later. |
| 11:15.15 | Eulex | kevix, umh? enter will move on without selecting anything |
| 11:15.31 | kevix | Eulex: opps. ok. so its space! |
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| 11:15.37 | asdrubalexz | thank you very much |
| 11:15.41 | Eulex | kevix, indeed |
| 11:15.42 | asdrubalexz | what is "File Server" |
| 11:15.44 | asdrubalexz | ? |
| 11:15.46 | asdrubalexz | FTP |
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| 11:15.55 | liable | !ig |
| 11:15.55 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
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| 11:16.22 | kevix | asdrubalexz: you can use 'tasksel' after the basic install to do the same thing. |
| 11:16.22 | SimonRaven | kevix: that is tasksel |
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| 11:16.40 | asdrubalexz | thanks |
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| 11:17.02 | asdrubalexz | what is the "File server" task? |
| 11:17.03 | ViolentBox | anyone else here running xebian? |
| 11:17.06 | asdrubalexz | is it a FTP server? |
| 11:17.20 | Gnea | ViolentBox: what's that? |
| 11:17.28 | valdyn | Gnea: xbox debian |
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| 11:17.37 | kevix | SimonRaven: that was my point. dont select anything and then use 'tasksel' later. |
| 11:17.48 | ViolentBox | xebian is a debian distro for xbox |
| 11:17.56 | asdrubalexz | or just Samba? |
| 11:18.05 | Gnea | oh cool |
| 11:18.24 | Gnea | !xebian |
| 11:18.25 | dpkg | http://www.xbox-linux.org/Xebian - ML http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists |
| 11:18.30 | kevix | ViolentBox: you can ask question about debian, not sure anyone here can help with the install though. |
| 11:18.40 | asdrubalexz | good.. I'll try it |
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| 11:19.14 | ViolentBox | I already have it installed. |
| 11:19.26 | Eulex | asdrubalexz, samba and nfs. |
| 11:19.35 | kevix | ViolentBox: do you have any unix/linux/debian questions? |
| 11:19.46 | Eulex | !based on debian |
| 11:19.46 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 11:20.02 | ViolentBox | I wanted to ask, though, if anyone recommends debian over other distros, and why |
| 11:20.15 | Eulex | !why debian |
| 11:20.16 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
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| 11:20.42 | kevix | ViolentBox: the first thing is the social contract. the second thing is the package management (apt-get) |
| 11:21.04 | Eulex | !social contract |
| 11:21.04 | dpkg | Debian's social contract is at http://www.debian.org/social_contract |
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| 11:22.43 | ViolentBox | guess I'll do some reading |
| 11:23.18 | asdrubalexz | !nfs |
| 11:23.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, nfs is Sun's Network Filesystem, a reasonably simple file transfer protocol that is quite hard to secure. See the NFS-HOWTO for setup, or No Files Served. Network FaILurE System. Never Fscking Stable. No Fucking Security. Nightmare File System, or ask me about 'ssh tunneled nfs', or http://linuxslut.net/guides/nfs.php |
| 11:23.38 | asdrubalexz | !ssh |
| 11:23.39 | dpkg | rumour has it, ssh is Secure SHell, the ssh package in Debian is Portable OpenSSH (www.openssh.org) or for windows clients ask me about putty, or for mac clients ask me about niftytelnet or MacSSH. It's _unwise_ to enable both RSA and pasword authentication. Ask me about rsa, or ask about winscp for a GUI SCP client, or check out http://www.sf.net/projects/shellter for an iptables-based firewall with built-in ssh brute force protection |
| 11:23.48 | azeem | asdrubalexz: please rather /msg dpkg |
| 11:23.56 | azeem | like /msg dpkg ssh |
| 11:23.56 | asdrubalexz | thanks |
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| 11:24.22 | Gnea | oh sweet, i fixed X! :D |
| 11:24.32 | exit | want to fix mine? |
| 11:24.34 | exit | :( |
| 11:25.05 | exit | how do i install the source? |
| 11:25.08 | exit | kernel |
| 11:25.18 | Eulex | apt-get it |
| 11:25.30 | exit | hmm |
| 11:25.37 | exit | i'm 2.4.27 |
| 11:25.44 | exit | apt get linux... ? |
| 11:25.50 | Eulex | exit, apt-cache search kernel-source-2.4.27 |
| 11:25.59 | exit | thanks |
| 11:26.57 | exit | you made my day! |
| 11:27.24 | Eulex | I did? |
| 11:27.25 | priscila | exit: if you want to get only the source, run apt-get source package, but i think you dont want it :) |
| 11:27.28 | Gnea | okay, Xorg 7.0 works just fine :) |
| 11:27.35 | ViolentBox | I'm gonna head 'er over to my PC... better screen. Cheers all |
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| 11:31.32 | x`y`-xy | how can write a floppy image to a floppy disk |
| 11:31.39 | x`y`-xy | hlp me pls |
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| 11:32.20 | theD3viL | how to save session in kde if i have selected "restore manualy saved season"? |
| 11:32.21 | Eulex | x`y`-xy, the install guide knows. |
| 11:32.26 | Gnea | x`y`-xy: this is the last time i will tell you: please use proper english (you obviously know how), and please stop begging. you may ask, and someone will help you when they can. |
| 11:32.43 | Eulex | !install guide |
| 11:32.43 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for stable can be found at: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual For sid: ask me about "iyhtays". Also ask me about "reference". |
| 11:32.45 | Gnea | !tell x`y`-xy about ig |
| 11:33.04 | x`y`-xy | thx |
| 11:33.16 | Eulex | !tell x`y`-xy about thx |
| 11:33.23 | AnisFarhana | how much #debian pay dpkg monthly ? |
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| 11:33.29 | kevix | Gnea: maybe x`y`-xy should install tuxtype? |
| 11:33.33 | AnisFarhana | poor dpkg , he need to work hard ;p |
| 11:33.35 | Gnea | AnisFarhana: 5 tubes |
| 11:33.45 | AnisFarhana | Gnea: 5 tubes of what ? |
| 11:33.58 | Gnea | AnisFarhana: wouldn't *you* like to know? ;) |
| 11:34.09 | x`y`-xy | i don't know before ....about thx !!;) |
| 11:34.11 | Eulex | AnisFarhana, he's paid in cpu time, ram and hdd space |
| 11:34.19 | AnisFarhana | oh ok :)) |
| 11:34.35 | AnisFarhana | who is owner of dpkg ? |
| 11:34.41 | Eulex | dpkg, who owns you? |
| 11:34.41 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
| 11:34.41 | Gnea | your mom. |
| 11:34.43 | AnisFarhana | i think dpkg is an eggdrop |
| 11:34.51 | Gnea | AnisFarhana: what's it to ya? |
| 11:34.55 | Eulex | dpkg, what are you? |
| 11:34.55 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 11:34.56 | petemc_ | blootbot, i thought |
| 11:35.09 | AnisFarhana | dpkg, how old are you ? |
| 11:35.09 | dpkg | 900 ... like Yoda ... |
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| 11:35.13 | AnisFarhana | :D |
| 11:35.21 | liable | old he is |
| 11:35.43 | AnisFarhana | ok thanks :) |
| 11:35.45 | Gnea | !your mom |
| 11:35.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, your mom is my hoe, or my bitch |
| 11:35.56 | kevix | !dpkg moo |
| 11:35.56 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 11:36.37 | AnisFarhana | dinner time , bye |
| 11:36.42 | epsilon | !dpkg sl |
| 11:36.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sl is a very useful spell checker if you often mistype ls. Exists as a Debian package. |
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| 11:49.25 | FaithX | Someone around who has time to chat about usermodelinux? |
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| 11:49.36 | tirkal | hi. is there some good, concise tutorial that would help me understand ps(1)'s output? |
| 11:49.41 | tirkal | (the man is fine for ps itself, but I don't know what terms like "tty" and "session leader" mean in the context of linux processes) |
| 11:50.15 | epsilon | google for it |
| 11:51.09 | tirkal | epsilon: tried, results not encouraging. |
| 11:51.12 | tirkal | I basically need something like "ps(1) for *nix newbies". any recommendations? |
| 11:51.50 | prp | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.15 | liable | prp: cause you cant use apt-cache search?? |
| 11:52.16 | tirkal | prp: juts MySQL |
| 11:52.25 | tirkal | it's there (at least 4.1) |
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| 11:53.38 | prp | hello, why i can't find mysql in debian archive ? |
| 11:53.39 | FaithX | tirkal: dod get to hung up on it... just enjoy ps and you will learn more as you progress in linux |
| 11:54.09 | liable | prp: what have you actually tried to find it? |
| 11:54.26 | prp | mysql-server sorry |
| 11:54.30 | tarzeau | can someon convert an ogg movie to mpeg4/divx/avi? |
| 11:54.42 | liable | probably |
| 11:54.49 | orchid | tirkal: maybe look at http://rute.2038bug.com/node12.html.gz |
| 11:55.06 | tirkal | prp: apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 mysql-common-4.1 mysql-client-4.1 libmysqlclient14-dev libmysqlclient14 |
| 11:55.12 | orchid | tirkal: but like FaithX said it will come in time |
| 11:55.34 | tirkal | prp: that would install all you need to run and develop for MySQL |
| 11:55.36 | XoR_ | tarzeau: maybe avidemux!!! |
| 11:55.37 | FaithX | tirkal: apt-cache search mysql-server |
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| 11:56.09 | tirkal | orchid: yeah, I guess. |
| 11:56.15 | tarzeau | XoR_: can you do it for me? |
| 11:56.23 | tirkal | I asked since I need to clear some dead processes right now |
| 11:56.27 | FaithX | oops sorry I got people confused... |
| 11:56.33 | tirkal | and I'm afraid I'd kill the wrong ones. |
| 11:56.46 | FaithX | tirkal how so? |
| 11:56.55 | FaithX | ps aux | grep |
| 11:57.06 | FaithX | ps aux | more |
| 11:57.16 | tirkal | FaithX: I had some crashed SSH sessions. |
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| 11:57.25 | tirkal | those stay on, for some reason. |
| 11:57.38 | tirkal | also, they themselves opened some processes. |
| 11:57.58 | tirkal | so I need to kill all the idle sshd sessions and the processes they opened. |
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| 11:58.08 | FaithX | hmmm.... probably just hanging waiting to reconnect ssh is excellent for that if you net drops out ssh reconnects |
| 11:58.17 | FaithX | pstree |
| 11:59.23 | FaithX | pstree -p | more |
| 12:00.16 | tirkal | hmm |
| 12:00.23 | tirkal | someone told me to run ps axf |
| 12:00.38 | __user__ | what are you trying to archive tirkal ? |
| 12:00.57 | tirkal | Faithful: what does "processes without controlling ttys" mean? |
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| 12:01.47 | tirkal | __user__: I need to kill some crashed sshd sessions, and the processes they opened. |
| 12:02.20 | tirkal | I have 3 sshd procs running, and I only use 1, so I probably should kill the other two. |
| 12:02.24 | FaithX | pstree -pu | more |
| 12:03.13 | __user__ | FaithX: it is enough if he kills the shell processes |
| 12:03.29 | FaithX | that is true |
| 12:03.50 | __user__ | since the spawned "child processes" will also be killed by that way... |
| 12:04.08 | FaithX | unless there is a zombie |
| 12:04.09 | tirkal | Faithful: sshd(7162) sshd(13930) sshd(13932,tirkal) bash(13933) |
| 12:04.14 | tirkal | no, no zombie |
| 12:04.17 | tirkal | I tried that first |
| 12:04.31 | __user__ | what does "tty" say tirkal ? |
| 12:04.33 | FaithX | tirkal: did you try pstree? |
| 12:05.02 | tirkal | Faithful: yeah, that line is from the output. according to that output, I should kill 7162 and 13930, right? |
| 12:05.23 | tirkal | __user__: /dev/pts/0 |
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| 12:06.21 | __user__ | ps auxw | egrep bash | egrep -v /dev/pts/0 should assist you... |
| 12:06.27 | FaithX | ps aux | grep pts |
| 12:06.56 | tirkal | __user__: tirkal 13933 0.0 0.1 2984 1624 pts/0 Rs Apr22 0:00 -bash |
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| 12:07.18 | FaithX | then that is the ssh session you are in... don't kill that one |
| 12:07.33 | tirkal | Faithful: tirkal 13932 0.0 0.2 6232 2024 ? S Apr22 0:00 sshd: tirkal@pts/0 |
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| 12:07.45 | Dabian | OK ... how do I regenerate the file /var/lib/dpkg/available? |
| 12:07.53 | undesktop | how can I search packages based on "tags"? |
| 12:08.10 | liable | Dabian: update |
| 12:08.16 | Dabian | It was damaged, so I got rid of it. Now "dpkg --configure -a" complains that its missing. |
| 12:08.27 | Dabian | liable: Should I touch the file first? |
| 12:08.27 | tirkal | Faithful, __user__: so basically, my process current ssh PID is 13932, and I should kill all other sshd processes, right? |
| 12:08.43 | Dabian | I try |
| 12:08.45 | tirkal | s/process// |
| 12:08.48 | liable | Dabian: apt-get update |
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| 12:08.58 | FaithX | tirkal: if you wish |
| 12:09.02 | Dabian | liable_: touching the file and doing apt-get update did the trick! :-) |
| 12:09.09 | Dabian | liable: Tnx |
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| 12:09.28 | tirkal | FaithX: yeah, I definitely hope these are the right ones; it's a remote server :) |
| 12:09.31 | liable | Dabian: yw. no real need to touch it though. |
| 12:09.49 | __user__ | tirkal: process monitoring... |
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| 12:09.54 | __user__ | tirkal: e. g. monit |
| 12:10.10 | Dabian | liable: Stange .. it didn't work before I touched it. I moved the file, then touched [it]. |
| 12:10.34 | tirkal | __user__: I generally shouldn't be mucking about with that server so much; everything is already automated. |
| 12:10.35 | valdyn | tirkal: why are you killing the sshd serving your current connection? |
| 12:10.44 | liable | Dabian: apt will whine the first time, but if you update again it wont. |
| 12:10.50 | __user__ | tirkal: what is "everything" ? |
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| 12:10.58 | tirkal | __user__: I only had the problems while setting up the automation |
| 12:11.19 | Dabian | liable: Ahh .. well, worx now, so everybody is happy like sheep! :-) |
| 12:11.23 | tirkal | __user__: nothing is supposed to happen except commits to remote codebase on that server. |
| 12:11.40 | tirkal | __user__: (and that's automated through some Darcs scripts) |
| 12:11.50 | Dabian | I don't understand why not everybody runs unstable - its so much fun! |
| 12:12.02 | Dabian | :D D: |
| 12:12.04 | __user__ | Dabian: fun != enterprise requirements |
| 12:12.05 | tirkal | valdyn: on the contrary, I'm trying to kill crashed sshd session who wouldn't go away. |
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| 12:12.53 | valdyn | tirkal: a process without a controlling tty is what makes it a daemon |
| 12:12.58 | Dabian | user_: Enterprise == `cat grass | /bin/bull` |
| 12:13.10 | ben | How do I get dpkg to tell me the process for moving from sarge to etch? ;) |
| 12:13.24 | valdyn | dpkg, sarge->etch |
| 12:13.25 | dpkg | (Sarge too old for you already? Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'etch', and replace the security.debian.org line by a testing security line (ask me about testing security). Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then subscribe to d-d-a (/msg dpkg d-d-a) or I will come and pour ho |
| 12:13.35 | ben | Cheers. |
| 12:13.50 | Dabian | !beer ben |
| 12:14.19 | tirkal | valdyn: ok, but I was told only one sshd proc is supposed to be running per a connection. |
| 12:14.22 | tarzeau | how can i watch ogg movies? |
| 12:14.25 | valdyn | tirkal: 2 |
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| 12:14.51 | tirkal | valdyn: ok, so what does sshd(7162) sshd(13930) sshd(13932,tirkal) bash(13933) mean? |
| 12:15.05 | tirkal | where's the redundant proc there? |
| 12:15.05 | FaithX | ogg movies? |
| 12:15.13 | tarzeau | FaithX: yes |
| 12:15.20 | tirkal | FaithX: (probably OGMs) |
| 12:15.20 | valdyn | tirkal: the output of ps aux | grep ssh would be more useful |
| 12:15.24 | tarzeau | FaithX: dynamo.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video |
| 12:15.56 | valdyn | tirkal: one is listening for new connections, one is owned by root and part of the existing connection and one is owned by the user running the current connection |
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| 12:16.30 | vaq | How do i install mysql_config? |
| 12:16.32 | valdyn | tirkal: only 1 more might spawn when you open a new connectio as that same user, im not _that_ familiar with ssh |
| 12:16.59 | FaithX | tarzeau: dynamo.ogg ? |
| 12:17.23 | tarzeau | FaithX: http://ronja.twibright.com/dynamo.ogg |
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| 12:18.44 | tirkal | valdyn: http://phpfi.com/114357 |
| 12:19.07 | valdyn | tirkal: yea, that is right |
| 12:19.09 | tirkal | valdyn: note that I'm logged as "tirkal", not root. |
| 12:19.16 | valdyn | tirkal: no reason to kill any of these |
| 12:19.20 | tirkal | so it seems there are no stray procs... |
| 12:19.33 | tirkal | valdyn: ok. btw, why is there a root owned sshd there? |
| 12:19.34 | valdyn | tirkal: number one is listening for new connections, 2 and 3 are part of the existing connection |
| 12:19.47 | Dabian | tirkal : What do you get if you type "sudo slay tirkal" ? |
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| 12:20.18 | valdyn | tirkal: number 2 is a forked sshd i guess, that then spawned the user sshd |
| 12:20.23 | Dabian | tirkal : Never mind .. I guess I was trolling. Sorry about that. |
| 12:20.33 | valdyn | tirkal: but uh, i dont care to read the sshd code |
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| 12:20.57 | Dabian | valdyn : Is it really that bad? Thats kinda worry to me. |
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| 12:21.00 | tirkal | valdyn: interesting. I might read more about it if I have the chance. |
| 12:21.11 | tirkal | (project is on an insane schedule, as per usual :) |
| 12:21.43 | tirkal | valdyn: is there a good book for teaching this stuff? |
| 12:22.01 | valdyn | tirkal: the ssh source code |
| 12:22.11 | valdyn | tirkal: or waht exactly are you planning on learning? |
| 12:22.45 | tirkal | valdyn: the knowledge that would be required to answer the questions I asked here :) |
| 12:23.13 | valdyn | tirkal: uh, learn to code C, learn the POSIX standard |
| 12:23.34 | Dabian | valdyn : Heh .. thats cool advise. :-) |
| 12:23.40 | tirkal | hmmm :) |
| 12:23.43 | Dabian | valdyn : You're very good, I noticed! |
| 12:24.01 | tirkal | I think I'll grab the O'reilly about Linux. |
| 12:24.04 | Dabian | valdyn : Are you a kernel developer or something? |
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| 12:24.20 | valdyn | Dabian: nah |
| 12:24.34 | Dabian | valdyn : Whats your background? |
| 12:24.39 | Dabian | If I am curious ... that is. |
| 12:24.41 | vaq | How do i install mysql_config? |
| 12:24.47 | valdyn | Dabian: cs |
| 12:24.56 | Dabian | valdyn : how long debian? |
| 12:25.15 | valdyn | Dabian: since hamm |
| 12:25.31 | valdyn | !hamm |
| 12:25.31 | dpkg | hamm is probably Debian 2.0, released for i386 and m68k (first multi-arch release), or released July 24, 1998 |
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| 12:25.36 | Dabian | valdyn : Ham stable or hamm unstable? |
| 12:25.47 | valdyn | Dabian: prerelease maybe , i dont remember |
| 12:26.06 | valdyn | Dabian: 1998 sounds a little to late anyway |
| 12:26.15 | Dabian | valdyn : Hehe :-) |
| 12:26.27 | paulliu | vaq: install libmysqlclient*-dev |
| 12:26.32 | Dabian | valdyn : Back then, unstable was testing, and there was no unstable. |
| 12:26.45 | Dabian | valdyn : Actually there was no testing, but thats confusing to most. :-) |
| 12:27.26 | vaq | paulliu: thanks |
| 12:27.47 | valdyn | tirkal: you want a book about unix / posix, a 'linux' book typically doesnt cover the api |
| 12:29.02 | tirkal | valdyn: thanks, I'll look for recommendations for one. |
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| 12:32.20 | HugoRune | Afternoon, Is anyone available to help? |
| 12:33.01 | HugoRune | I cant see the user list in this client |
| 12:33.13 | liable | Eulex: they are mostly bots :) |
| 12:33.21 | HugoRune | dang |
| 12:33.43 | HugoRune | I'll fire out my question and see what happens |
| 12:33.46 | FaithX | tarzeau: mplayer view it ok |
| 12:34.01 | paulliu | liable: #idlerpg |
| 12:34.15 | HugoRune | I have just installed latest deb. during boot it says hal required 2.6 |
| 12:34.20 | tarzeau | FaithX: if it's linked with libtheora-dev (i just updated my mplayer, yes) |
| 12:34.26 | liable | paulliu: whats that about? |
| 12:34.27 | tarzeau | FaithX: hehe that's me.... |
| 12:34.44 | Eulex | HugoRune, indeed, install a 2.6 kernel to get hal to work |
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| 12:35.16 | HugoRune | eulex: is it possible to just downgrade the hal instead? |
| 12:35.40 | liable | Baaa |
| 12:35.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: i built danger from the deep,.. testing now |
| 12:36.13 | HolyGoat | hmm.. apparently X.org was upgraded, and now it can't find my mouse device anymore (it just changed the config file). Is there a quick way to find out where my mouse device is? |
| 12:36.41 | DarkCow | HugoRune, hal actually needs the 2.6 kernel, AFAIK. It needs to use some features that 2.4 doesn't have |
| 12:37.03 | liable | HolyGoat: you have xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed?? |
| 12:37.24 | HolyGoat | I'll check. |
| 12:38.06 | HolyGoat | liable: yep |
| 12:38.11 | HugoRune | so the install cd comes with wrong kernal for the hal? I only just installed it |
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| 12:38.52 | HugoRune | I've never upgraded a kernal so I guess i got some reading to do |
| 12:39.04 | Eulex | HugoRune, 2.4.27 is the default. the cd also contains 2.6.8, which you could have chosen at install time, by entering linux26 at the boot prompt |
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| 12:39.19 | HugoRune | agg |
| 12:39.27 | Firehand | what is going wrong here when lshal just dumps 7 devices? (mainly acpi ones) |
| 12:39.36 | HugoRune | ahhh. my first of many noob mistakes |
| 12:40.01 | Firehand | i use 0.5.7-1, and i've compared the config with the one on my other pc where lshal dumps all devices |
| 12:40.08 | HugoRune | will i need to do complete reinstall or is it possible to fix? |
| 12:40.41 | HolyGoat | liable: xorg.conf has "/dev/input/mice" in it as the device, but that's not an existing device. If I can somehow find out where the actual mouse device is, maybe it will work. |
| 12:40.52 | Eulex | HugoRune, it's not very hard to fix. do you know how to use apt-get and apt-cache? using those tools you can search for packages and install packages. the kernels are in ordinary packages. |
| 12:41.17 | HugoRune | i have used those before. excellent. |
| 12:41.24 | HugoRune | thanks for help!!! |
| 12:41.33 | Eulex | yw :) |
| 12:41.44 | liable | HolyGoat: well, if its a ps2 mouse, that should be correct. |
| 12:42.06 | HugoRune | laters |
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| 12:42.35 | sts | hello folks |
| 12:42.51 | HolyGoat | liable: It is a ps2 mouse, but /dev/input/mice does not exist. |
| 12:43.09 | liable | blame udev! |
| 12:43.20 | HolyGoat | heh |
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| 12:43.53 | HolyGoat | ok I'm going to play around with this a bit.. thanks anyway guys |
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| 12:44.25 | sts | can anyone tell me how to call make from within a Makefile? I need to compile a tool in a subfolder. I tried to cd foo && ./configure && make, but i doesn't find the ./configure script, so the "cd foo" doesn't work. |
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| 12:46.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: really? |
| 12:46.27 | jez | Anyone know why I'm unable to su to root, even though I am entering the correct password? I'm on Linux and the PAM module to re-implement the wheel group requirement doesn't appear to be enabled. |
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| 12:46.49 | DarkCow | sts, cd foo;less INSTALL |
| 12:46.51 | HolyGoat | hmm, that's odd. with my old kernel xorg works fine |
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| 12:47.30 | DarkCow | HolyGoat, which graphics card do you have? |
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| 12:48.34 | DarkCow | jez, can you log in as root normally? |
| 12:48.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah... |
| 12:48.46 | HolyGoat | DarkCow: matrox millenium g550 |
| 12:48.50 | jez | DarkCow: yes |
| 12:48.51 | sts | DarkCow: cannot open `INSTALL' for reading: No such file or directory |
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| 12:48.59 | DarkCow | sts, ls |
| 12:49.10 | sts | DarkCow: no the file exists |
| 12:49.14 | DarkCow | HolyGoat, what sort of drivers does that use? |
| 12:49.20 | sts | DarkCow: make doesn't cd to the directory |
| 12:49.36 | liable | HolyGoat: bts udev and mkinitranfs |
| 12:49.36 | sts | DarkCow: i'm trying to write my own makefile ;) |
| 12:49.40 | DarkCow | ah |
| 12:49.41 | DarkCow | i see |
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| 12:51.18 | DarkCow | so it's changed directory, and the configure script is in there, but make won't run it? |
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| 12:52.14 | liable | is there any bluetooth channels for linux? |
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| 12:53.14 | HolyGoat | DarkCow: mga |
| 12:53.33 | FaithX | Someone around who has time to chat about usermodelinux? |
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| 12:53.54 | asg | FaithX: just ask your question(s) |
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| 12:54.05 | DarkCow | hmm, I was kinda hoping that it was nvidia and you hadn't re-compiled/installed the driver |
| 12:54.28 | HolyGoat | liable: what does "bts" mean? |
| 12:54.35 | asg | !tell HolyGoat about bts |
| 12:54.46 | sts | DarkCow: no, change directory doesn't work. `pwd` prints the old path even after the `cd` to foo. |
| 12:54.59 | HolyGoat | Ah, thanks. |
| 12:55.24 | DarkCow | sts, that sounds weird |
| 12:55.38 | DarkCow | are you sure that you haven't made a typo in the directory name? |
| 12:55.53 | sts | DarkCow: yes |
| 12:56.03 | DarkCow | weird :-/ |
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| 12:59.20 | ben | Okay, now that's sorted, forgot I was su'd. ;) |
| 13:00.25 | ben | So, do NVidia's linux drivers work in etch? |
| 13:00.50 | sts | DarkCow: http://pastebin.com/676775 there is my makefile |
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| 13:02.01 | blondie | does enabling quotas on an ext3 file system require faffing with lots of stuff, or can I just enable it? |
| 13:02.04 | DarkCow | sts, I don't know. I haven't ever really dealt with makefiles. Sorry |
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| 13:02.15 | cobratbq | hi |
| 13:02.45 | cobratbq | is someone available to answer a few questions regarding a grub bootloader installation (manually, after debian is already installed)? |
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| 13:03.18 | cobratbq | (change from LILO to GRUB) |
| 13:03.58 | sts | cobratbq: don't ask to ask (doesn't mean i'm able to answer your question) |
| 13:04.11 | cobratbq | k :) |
| 13:04.25 | cobratbq | I need to change to GRUB |
| 13:04.42 | cobratbq | but after installing the grub package I don't yet get de /boot/grub directory with contents |
| 13:04.53 | cobratbq | what way is easiest to generate the necessary files? |
| 13:05.00 | sts | cobratbq: you need to install it first. |
| 13:05.07 | cobratbq | with grub-install? |
| 13:05.27 | valdyn | !find /boot/grub |
| 13:05.29 | sts | cobratbq: yes, read the manpage. |
| 13:05.39 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/boot/grub' (1): (/usr/share/doc/fai-doc/examples/simple/files/boot/grub/menu.lst/{GRUB|postinst}) in admin/fai-doc. |
| 13:06.38 | FaithX | asg Have you installed usermodelinux: |
| 13:06.50 | FaithX | ? |
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| 13:06.58 | asg | FaithX: yes, I run 16 instances on a single IBM HS20 blade server for our developers |
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| 13:07.46 | FaithX | so do I see straight that it is only on 2.4 stable? |
| 13:07.50 | cobratbq | so is menu.lst the only file I have to create to install grub succesfully? |
| 13:08.18 | HolyGoat | Is there any way to get the kernel source for kernels that are a little older than the one in the apt repositories? I need the package for linux-source-2.6.16 |
| 13:08.21 | asg | FaithX: the latest uml kernel patches are for 2.4.26. There may be 2.6 kernel patches but I've had good luck with the 2.4.26 patches |
| 13:08.25 | HolyGoat | Is there any way to get the kernel source for kernels that are a little older than the one in the apt repositories? I need the package for linux-source-2.6.12, sorry |
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| 13:08.33 | stumbles | am i going to run into problems if i put all my three filesystems, root, home & swap into LVM? |
| 13:08.43 | Eulex | !tell HolyGoat about sdn |
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| 13:08.53 | Pupeno | Hello. |
| 13:09.06 | HolyGoat | Eulex: thanks a bunch |
| 13:09.09 | tarzeau | stumbles: i think so, yes |
| 13:09.13 | Eulex | HolyGoat, yw :) |
| 13:09.25 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 13:09.25 | dpkg | somebody said debstats was managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 13:09.29 | FaithX | asg: I have been on the website but the website is like so undeveloped I was afraid UML was alpha |
| 13:09.48 | ben | So does anyone know if NVidia's drivers work in etch? |
| 13:09.54 | asg | FaithX: these days, Xen is a more compelling solution since UML has a lot of I/O overhead |
| 13:09.55 | ben | I haven't been able to make them install. |
| 13:09.59 | Pupeno | I am converting images from tiff to png with ImageMagick's convert, how do I achieve the greatest compression ? |
| 13:10.10 | stumbles | tarzeau: what sort of problems? |
| 13:10.12 | tarzeau | Pupeno: use some png cruncher |
| 13:10.13 | vin` | cobratbq: did you successfully run grub-install /dev/?d? ? you don't have to create menu.lst update-grub should generate one. |
| 13:10.24 | Pupeno | tarzeau: what is a png cruncher ? |
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| 13:10.33 | tarzeau | Pupeno: apt-cache search png crunch |
| 13:10.37 | ben | Actually, I might be able to make it install. What would the full path to the kernel source be after I apt-get it? |
| 13:10.39 | FaithX | asg: aha... see these are the things I need to know... |
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| 13:10.49 | Pupeno | thank you. |
| 13:10.52 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 13:10.52 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 13:10.54 | tarzeau | Pupeno: apt-cache search png crush |
| 13:10.57 | cobratbq | ok, that's what I was looking for... I worried about starting grub-install making a corrupt MBR because I didn't have all configs yet |
| 13:11.04 | cobratbq | I'll try immediately |
| 13:11.17 | asg | FaithX: when I get the time, I'll start converting my UMLs to Xen. The free as in beer VMWare Server is also useful especially if you need to virtualize Windows or the BSDs. |
| 13:11.20 | FaithX | asg: but how do these stack up agains vmware? |
| 13:11.27 | tarzeau | Pupeno: depending on the image types you'll have more or less luck. why not keep tiff? |
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| 13:11.31 | tarzeau | Pupeno: tiff is very good |
| 13:11.41 | tarzeau | Pupeno: real browsers support tiff. |
| 13:11.46 | stumbles | pupeno: try pngcrush |
| 13:11.51 | tarzeau | Pupeno: really good software too (scanners, gnustep) |
| 13:11.59 | asg | FaithX: Xen is on par with VMWare and even slightly faster in some cases. UML isn't really in the same class but useful for some things. |
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| 13:12.10 | FaithX | asg: vmware is still a bit of a slug... and seems to have a memory leak |
| 13:12.11 | Pupeno | tarzeau: I don't care about browsers. I want to have the smallest possible file with good quality (it is hand-writtent text) |
| 13:12.19 | tarzeau | FaithX: what kernel do you use? |
| 13:12.29 | asg | FaithX: *nod* |
| 13:12.34 | tarzeau | Pupeno: ah i see, remove color , and make it grayscale? |
| 13:12.45 | Pupeno | tarzeau: they are a lot, saving 100KB for each one (they are around 2MB each) would save a lot. |
| 13:12.49 | FaithX | tarzeau: 2.6.12 or so |
| 13:12.57 | tarzeau | Pupeno: how much mb total? |
| 13:13.13 | Pupeno | tarzeau: I would do that, but, the handwritting is in different color with meaning!!! |
| 13:13.16 | Pupeno | tarzeau: 2.4GB |
| 13:13.19 | ben | valdyn: Hey, thanks for that. That bot's been coming in real handy. ;) |
| 13:13.26 | FaithX | actually 2.6.11 |
| 13:13.38 | Pupeno | tarzeau: I need to copy them to a notebook without so much space. |
| 13:13.42 | tarzeau | Pupeno: i see, check the three png crushers |
| 13:13.49 | Pupeno | thanks, I'll do that. |
| 13:13.51 | wlnet | it is a must to use either hotplug or udev for kernel-2.6.15? |
| 13:13.53 | tarzeau | Pupeno: yes 2.4 gb is much. what's these, love letters? |
| 13:13.55 | cobratbq | Does this tell me that grub is looking for vmlinuz-2.6..... in the root? "kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.16-1-k7 root=/dev/mapper/primaryVG-root ro" |
| 13:14.03 | tarzeau | Pupeno: can i have one such example picture? |
| 13:14.12 | FaithX | maybe it is just i don't have enough grunt for vmware with athlon 2600 and 1GB ram |
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| 13:14.21 | cobratbq | because there's no /vmlinux-2.6.... in the root, but it does exist in the /boot |
| 13:14.28 | Pupeno | tarzeau: hehe, no, they are songs, handwritten lyrics with american notation for chords and sometimes even little scores. |
| 13:14.41 | Pupeno | tarzeau: yes, hold on a second. |
| 13:14.53 | tarzeau | Pupeno: cool, abrotman did you hear that? |
| 13:14.56 | jetscreamer | v4l module for x11r7 |
| 13:15.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: get your guitar and play some chorts for me |
| 13:15.09 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: and the verb? |
| 13:15.16 | Pupeno | my wife is a musician. |
| 13:15.18 | jetscreamer | abrotman has a kramer |
| 13:15.24 | tarzeau | Pupeno: cool. photos? name? |
| 13:15.32 | tarzeau | i've got a framus. |
| 13:15.32 | jetscreamer | tarzeau: how to get rid of the 'not found' EE |
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| 13:15.44 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: tvtime or xawtv? |
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| 13:15.57 | jetscreamer | tarzeau: just a zoran capture card |
| 13:16.00 | tarzeau | Pupeno: her age? |
| 13:16.06 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: i don't know |
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| 13:16.14 | Pupeno | tarzeau: http://sandrafernandez.eu (it's in spanish). |
| 13:16.14 | tarzeau | it works with windows... |
| 13:16.37 | FaithX | asg I was thinking that uml might be a better alternative to vmware... I thought it might be faster |
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| 13:17.10 | Pupeno | anyway, I'll try a crusher. |
| 13:17.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: ? |
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| 13:17.26 | jetscreamer | tarzeau: no biggie i don't know how to use my capture card. :) |
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| 13:17.32 | abrotman | jetscreamer: no .. i don't .. two washburns and a garcia |
| 13:17.42 | amee2k | does the anacron default use the crontabs in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ? |
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| 13:18.13 | jetscreamer | actually i think i have a washburn also but it's kinda borked |
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| 13:18.22 | jetscreamer | i 'think' it's a washburn |
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| 13:19.07 | fbn | is it possible to have ntpd not to listen on network interfaces? |
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| 13:19.24 | liable | fbn: sure, uninstall it |
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| 13:19.43 | fbn | liable: nice idea ;) but I won't have time synchronization then |
| 13:20.04 | jetscreamer | if it doesn't listen on the network how will it know what to update the time to |
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| 13:20.36 | fbn | jetscreamer: I don't want to provide ntp service, I just want to have my system time synchronized |
| 13:20.57 | cobratbq | Ok, one last question... Is it possible to resize the root partition on-the-fly? or do I have to boot from a Live CD or something (maybe remount ro?) |
| 13:21.02 | tarzeau | how can i tell cvs to get a different named branch? |
| 13:21.13 | bizkit | fbn: just use the client then |
| 13:21.26 | fbn | bizkit: you mean ntpdate? |
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| 13:21.40 | bizkit | fbn: yes |
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| 13:22.15 | fbn | bizkit: ntpdate will not keep the time synchronized, it will set the system time at defined times (once per day) ... that's what I thought? |
| 13:22.28 | bernd | hi, i have problems to start with gdm i cant fill in the username. at startup there is a message "cant find " /usr/share/gdm/themes/demundi/demundi.xml |
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| 13:24.21 | ben | Alright, last question for the night. After going to etch KInfocenter is reporting my sound cards, but saying "Audio Devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG" |
| 13:24.27 | ben | What config might it be refering to? |
| 13:24.38 | bizkit | fbn: so your system depends on a very exact time? i never had problems synching the time just after boot and then every day.. even longer |
| 13:24.53 | garo | If i need a perlmodule from CPAN should i use: perl -MCPAN -e 'install 'foo::bar'' or is there a special method for this in debian ? |
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| 13:25.24 | fbn | bizkit: no it does not depend on very exact time ... I'll try ntpdate. you use it as daily cronjob then? |
| 13:25.24 | dvs | fbn: How do you want to keep the time set without a network connection? |
| 13:25.40 | fbn | dvs: I never said there is no network connection |
| 13:25.57 | dvs | <fbn> is it possible to have ntpd not to listen on network interfaces? |
| 13:26.25 | fbn | dvs: I meant that no ntp service should listen and answer to ntp requests |
| 13:26.34 | alec | garo: apt-cache search for it, it's probably in debian |
| 13:26.40 | fbn | dvs: but ntp should surely get time from the network :) |
| 13:27.07 | vin` | garo: if not, dh-make-perl |
| 13:27.11 | fbn | dvs: listen for incoming requests ... |
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| 13:27.26 | marvilleke | Hi all i have a question concerning iptables -P INPUT Drop and iptables -P OUTPUT Drop |
| 13:27.50 | bengrubb | JUSt wanna thank the people who helped me with denyhosts this morning (australia) i already have 1 person blocked or bot |
| 13:27.58 | asg | FaithX: no, UML is much slower. There is an I/O patch you can use for the host OS but I've never bothered with it. |
| 13:28.05 | marvilleke | well my firewall box is running and is almost acting as espected ;-) |
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| 13:28.24 | marvilleke | However |
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| 13:28.34 | garo | alec , vin` : thanks |
| 13:28.42 | bengrubb | evaded: are you there |
| 13:29.00 | marvilleke | does it also means that I have to specify that other hosts from internal lan should be able to ping? |
| 13:29.11 | cobratbq | well the GRUB installation worked flawlessly, tnx guys! |
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| 13:29.40 | valdyn | marvilleke: sure if you decide to drop any traffic leaving your box by default |
| 13:29.59 | marvilleke | Okay i allready thought so |
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| 13:30.30 | cobratbq | is it possible to resize the root-partition on-the-fly, maybe by making it readonly? (it's in ext3) |
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| 13:30.34 | jetscreamer | i see that tovid-gui just came in sources. but, i already compiled/installed tovid. what will installing the new debian version do, take the old one or will i have 2 versions |
| 13:30.36 | valdyn | cobratbq: no |
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| 13:30.46 | marvilleke | so this actually means add something like: " iptables -A INPUT -d INTERNAL_NET -p icmp -j ACCEPT |
| 13:30.50 | cobratbq | k tnx, I'll just use a live CD or so |
| 13:31.21 | valdyn | marvilleke: i cant tell if that is right, but you need the equivalent for output too anyway |
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| 13:31.31 | amee2k | does the anacron default use the crontabs in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ? |
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| 13:31.50 | x`y`-xy | how can install MC with apt get |
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| 13:32.02 | marvilleke | okay ofcourse it's a bi directional way of communication, valdyn ;-) |
| 13:32.09 | beardy | x`y`-xy: Use a real nick for starters. |
| 13:32.10 | jetscreamer | apt-get install mc |
| 13:32.14 | jetscreamer | weird eh |
| 13:32.25 | x`y`-xy | thanks |
| 13:34.02 | jez | Anyone know why I'm unable to su to root, even though I am entering the correct password? I'm on Linux and the PAM module to re-implement the wheel group requirement doesn't appear to be enabled. |
| 13:34.35 | asg | jez: what does /var/log/auth.log say? |
| 13:34.45 | Eulex | !wheel |
| 13:34.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, wheel is n. [from slang `big wheel' for a powerful person] The traditional name of security group zero in BSD. A person who has an active wheel bit (A privilege bit that allows the possessor to perform some restricted operation on a timesharing system like TENEX/TOPS-20/XEROX-IFS...). Irrelevant in debian default configs; don't use it unless you have a specific reason to do so. |
| 13:35.02 | llama32 | wooooop woop woop |
| 13:35.30 | valdyn | !wheel |
| 13:35.30 | dpkg | i heard wheel is n. [from slang `big wheel' for a powerful person] The traditional name of security group zero in BSD. A person who has an active wheel bit (A privilege bit that allows the possessor to perform some restricted operation on a timesharing system like TENEX/TOPS-20/XEROX-IFS...). Irrelevant in debian default configs; don't use it unless you have a specific reason to do so. |
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| 13:36.06 | RainbowW | i'm getting a syntax error on line 6 in http://pastebin.com/676825 ... why? |
| 13:36.44 | valdyn | RainbowW: # |
| 13:36.47 | valdyn | for i in "find -maxdepth 1"; do |
| 13:37.17 | bizkit | RainbowW: 'if [ ! -e ive-been-mogrified ]; then' |
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| 13:37.54 | valdyn | RainbowW: and why would you use " around find ? |
| 13:38.00 | valdyn | RainbowW: maybe your mean ` |
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| 13:38.21 | valdyn | RainbowW: $(find -maxdepth 1) works too |
| 13:38.21 | asg | RainbowW: or $(find ... ) |
| 13:38.58 | bizkit | RainbowW: #bash is very helpful, too (: |
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| 13:39.49 | jetscreamer | my buddy hangs in #bash a lot |
| 13:39.54 | jetscreamer | my buddy greycat |
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| 13:40.50 | JediMaster | hey all, quick question, how do you install an older package than is currently available? e.g. install a stable package in unstable? is it just a matter of downloading the package and using dpkg? |
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| 13:41.46 | bizkit | JediMaster: the problem with this is not the package itself but more on what other versions of e.g. libc or such it depends |
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| 13:42.15 | jetscreamer | JediMaster: that sometimes works |
| 13:42.24 | jetscreamer | but what bizkit said |
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| 13:42.43 | JediMaster | bizkit: yeah, but it shouldn't be a problem with this |
| 13:42.47 | jetscreamer | <S>treuner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:42.59 | streuner | hi |
| 13:43.37 | Dabian | !tell streuner about streuner |
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| 13:43.52 | streuner | hehe |
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| 13:44.27 | ben | So Debian detected my soundcards, but 'KInfoCenter' is reporting Auto devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG. How might I correct this? |
| 13:44.48 | runa_ | hi i dont know how to configure the cd writer |
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| 13:45.05 | bizkit | runa_: what do you want to configure? |
| 13:45.12 | Woosta | Where do I find a Java plugin that works with FireFox? I can't seen anything in apt .. |
| 13:45.15 | ben | auto devices = audio devices ;) |
| 13:45.33 | streuner | !tell Woosta about java |
| 13:45.35 | runa_ | when i do "cdrecord -scanbus " |
| 13:45.37 | bizkit | ben: sounds like its up to the kde control center? |
| 13:45.45 | beardy | Woosta: /msg dpkg java |
| 13:45.52 | runa_ | it does not find anything |
| 13:45.55 | bizkit | runa_: which kernel? |
| 13:45.56 | streuner | runa_: cdrecord -scanbus works only with scsi-emulation |
| 13:46.00 | dvs | runa_: cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA |
| 13:46.07 | runa_ | 2.6.14 |
| 13:46.24 | runa_ | i have tried cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA |
| 13:46.29 | bizkit | runa_: less /usr/share/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI.setup |
| 13:46.50 | jetscreamer | cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI |
| 13:46.56 | jetscreamer | i think |
| 13:46.58 | ben | bizkit: The sound system is active in the control centre. |
| 13:47.24 | runa_ | i dont get any id |
| 13:47.30 | runa_ | i have tried |
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| 13:47.54 | bizkit | ben: what i meant with this was, it depends on kde. you should try any debian kde channel, there you'll find more help |
| 13:47.56 | jetscreamer | you can also specify /dev/hdb or whatever |
| 13:48.04 | Woosta | Mmmm .. that doesn't answer the question .. I'm not looking for java, but for a plugin to tie java to Firefox .. |
| 13:48.46 | ben | bizkit: It's not working in GNOME either. |
| 13:49.12 | runa_ | Error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. |
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| 13:49.24 | asg | Woosta: /msg dpkg firefox java |
| 13:49.27 | bizkit | runa_: are you sure its hda? |
| 13:49.29 | tarzeau | is there a place with fotos of debian package maintainers? |
| 13:49.29 | dvs | runa_: isn't hda your hard drive? |
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| 13:49.40 | asg | tarzeau: planet.debian.net |
| 13:49.49 | tarzeau | there was some debconf or so place of alot of debian developers... |
| 13:49.50 | asg | tarzeau: also, google for the big picture from DebConf 5 |
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| 13:49.52 | tarzeau | foto |
| 13:49.53 | dar3 | can anyone have nokia d211 card? |
| 13:49.54 | runa_ | yes hda is my hard drive |
| 13:49.55 | Woosta | Ahh .. that one is more useful .. thanks asg |
| 13:49.56 | bravo37 | jemand aud Deuschland hir |
| 13:50.03 | tarzeau | asg: has someone made alot of small photos of that large one? |
| 13:50.04 | runa_ | but why does it attempt it |
| 13:50.07 | dvs | runa_: then why scan your hard drive for a CD-RW? |
| 13:50.13 | bizkit | !de |
| 13:50.13 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
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| 13:50.23 | tarzeau | asg: can i make photos hint over in html? |
| 13:50.28 | runa_ | how can i scan then |
| 13:50.33 | asg | tarzeau: I think dondelelcaro or had some involvement at the time |
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| 13:50.39 | Dabian | tarzeau : You might be too lazy. |
| 13:50.40 | runa_ | i followed the instructions |
| 13:50.42 | Dabian | tarzeau :-) |
| 13:50.43 | dvs | runa_: cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI |
| 13:50.52 | runa_ | yes i did it |
| 13:50.55 | tarzeau | Dabian: bah! i'm too lazy to get into the shower and take a cold one |
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| 13:51.06 | runa_ | it shows me Error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second. |
| 13:51.13 | Trewas | runa_: cdrecord tries to scan all ide-devices in order and it is using some exclusive open flag, so if you have a mounted partition in /dev/hda*, then -scanbus won't work |
| 13:51.18 | unfo | runa_: are you root? |
| 13:51.24 | lulong | join gay |
| 13:51.27 | dvs | runa_: I get than when I try cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA |
| 13:51.47 | Dabian | !slash lulong |
| 13:51.49 | tarzeau | asg: maybe i should keep autowatching planet.debian.net for debian people photos... |
| 13:51.49 | streuner | Woosta: it says the same as java ;-) |
| 13:51.54 | runa_ | yes i am root |
| 13:51.57 | unfo | ah. |
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| 13:52.12 | tarzeau | asg: why is listing heads/ forbidden? http://planet.debian.net/heads/ |
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| 13:52.25 | Woosta | streuner: no it doesn't |
| 13:52.26 | asg | tarzeau: the hackergotchi are not uniform though. I think the Debconf photo was the best assemblage to date. |
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| 13:52.36 | asg | tarzeau: dunno, I don't run planet |
| 13:52.50 | tarzeau | asg: know who runs the planet? |
| 13:52.54 | streuner | Woosta: do you need Java or not? |
| 13:53.00 | runa_ | Trewas what should i do then |
| 13:53.09 | Dabian | streuner : Java rocks. Kinda. |
| 13:53.09 | tarzeau | asg: i'd need someone to split the debconf photos into small pieces... I am too lazy for that |
| 13:53.10 | asg | tarzeau: Benjamin Mako Hill irrc |
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| 13:53.22 | streuner | Dabian: java is a PITA |
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| 13:53.35 | unfo | hi all, why must i restart KDE before kopete can see the AIM, GTalk, etc. plugins that come bundled along in the package? |
| 13:53.48 | asg | unfo: dunno, maybe #debian-kde does |
| 13:53.58 | unfo | ok i'll ask em, thanks. |
| 13:54.07 | Trewas | runa_: if you know what device the burned is you can use cdrecord dev=/dev/hdx directly, if you don't you can check what model the drives are by cat /proc/ide/hdx/model, or by checking the dmesg output |
| 13:54.16 | Woosta | streuner: I need to get the java plugin in firefox. 'java' just tells me about 'java' .. 'firefox java' answers my question |
| 13:54.37 | tarzeau | asg: thanks, i've /msg'd mako |
| 13:54.37 | spande | trying sarge's dvd::rip. How long on a 1GHz 256 MB system should it take roughly for a rip from DVD to AVI (4GB -> 1GB) using more or less defaults? Rough answer - hours, days, weeks? |
| 13:54.41 | asg | tarzeau: you're welcome |
| 13:54.42 | tarzeau | unfo: tried graveman? |
| 13:54.50 | unfo | no, i use cdrecord :/ |
| 13:55.00 | asg | tarzeau: also, ask dondelelcaro if he has a cutup of the Debconf photo. |
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| 13:55.10 | unfo | $ apt-cache show graveman |
| 13:55.10 | unfo | W: Impossible de trouver le paquet graveman |
| 13:55.14 | ILF | i have a drive in my /etc/fstab, which isn't mounted on boot, yet can be mounted when logged in because it's in there o_O |
| 13:55.22 | jetscreamer | spande: depends on the cpu eh, but here it's usually a couple hours for a finished product |
| 13:55.24 | tarzeau | unfo: do you have debian? |
| 13:55.28 | unfo | yes |
| 13:55.31 | RainbowW | http://pastebin.com/676842 what have i done wrong? it seems to operate on ~abbyraw, but not on the dirs under ~abbyraw ... |
| 13:55.33 | tarzeau | unfo: pre sarge? |
| 13:55.35 | unfo | etch |
| 13:55.45 | asg | unfo: /msg dpkg why is graveman not in testing |
| 13:55.47 | Eulex | unfo, indeed, graveman ain't in etch currently |
| 13:55.54 | stumbles | might want to change the topic, the FAQ is at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 13:55.58 | jetscreamer | k3b is better |
| 13:56.02 | dvs | yeah |
| 13:56.02 | tarzeau | Eulex: indeed. etch sucks |
| 13:56.20 | ILF | cdrecord+growisofs :) |
| 13:56.39 | Eulex | tarzeau, hmm. why do they insist on removing random stuff anyway, ony to put it back later? |
| 13:56.46 | Eulex | *only |
| 13:56.48 | tarzeau | Eulex: don't ask me |
| 13:56.50 | unfo | it'd be nice if cdrecord detected the dev= setting automatically and flawlessly. |
| 13:56.57 | tarzeau | Eulex: it's probably some sort of illness |
| 13:57.04 | Eulex | tarzeau, indeed |
| 13:57.05 | unfo | Eulex: maybe to get people to fix bugs |
| 13:57.07 | dvs | unfo: blame the author |
| 13:57.13 | tarzeau | unfo: that's the wrong way then |
| 13:57.29 | asg | Eulex: a lot of the *new* ops here don't know the past history of #debian so don't know that the #debian faq/wiki has been around for years. |
| 13:57.29 | unfo | tarzeau: why? |
| 13:57.39 | jetscreamer | dvd::rip kinda blows imo anyway |
| 13:57.41 | tarzeau | unfo: don't ask |
| 13:57.50 | Trewas | unfo: and it would be nice if cdrecord would not insist on using some weird self-invented numbering scheme for devices |
| 13:58.01 | jetscreamer | it's not self-invented |
| 13:58.20 | unfo | are there no other command-line cd burning apps? |
| 13:58.32 | tarzeau | unfo: cdrdao |
| 13:58.37 | streuner | asg: true, but the FAQ is out of date.. |
| 13:58.46 | tarzeau | unfo: what kernel do you run? |
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| 13:58.52 | Eulex | asg, that might not have been aimed at me? |
| 13:58.58 | unfo | tarzeau: 2.6.15. isn't cdrdao out of date? |
| 13:59.02 | superlinux | what does it mean that when some one config the NIC the network jams? |
| 13:59.03 | jetscreamer | /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video /inputdir |
| 13:59.08 | xiul | Hi, I want to know if some knows how to get only the avaible version of a package from command line by example I want to know which version of the package yelp it's avaible in the repository then I use "command options yelp" without use dpkg-show-versions, I read a lot of documentation and a lot of pages of man but I still not find any solution. (excuse bad english) |
| 13:59.11 | tarzeau | unfo: there's formats that you can't burn without cdrdao |
| 13:59.17 | asg | Eulex: thought you were talking about the link to the faq/wiki being wrong; my mistake |
| 13:59.27 | asg | streuner: then ask tarzeau for a login and fix it :) |
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| 13:59.43 | superlinux | could it be a MAC address conflict? |
| 13:59.46 | jetscreamer | /usr/bin/dvdrecord -dao speed=2 dev=0,1,0 /home/input.iso |
| 13:59.47 | tarzeau | streuner: create an account and tell me the accountname |
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| 13:59.58 | tarzeau | streuner: it got locked to to massive spamming |
| 14:00.09 | tarzeau | s/to/due/1 |
| 14:00.12 | jetscreamer | no, there are no other cli apps |
| 14:00.33 | tarzeau | streuner: are you in switzerland this year? |
| 14:01.24 | streuner | tarzeau: switzerland is expensive :-) |
| 14:01.30 | tarzeau | streuner: no it's not |
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| 14:01.44 | tarzeau | streuner: only the hookers are |
| 14:02.04 | streuner | tarzeau: so why people in switzerland at the borders going to buy in germany? |
| 14:02.10 | bernd | hi, i cant use alt+ctrl+F2. if i use it it comes only a "_" and no prombt |
| 14:02.11 | streuner | (almost everything) |
| 14:02.17 | tarzeau | streuner: they don't buy everything there |
| 14:02.19 | streuner | beer, cigarettes and stuff |
| 14:02.19 | tarzeau | streuner: only the meat |
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| 14:02.26 | tarzeau | streuner: alot of people are vegetarians |
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| 14:02.35 | tarzeau | streuner: alot of people don't smoke either |
| 14:02.41 | tarzeau | since the big smoking forbid |
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| 14:02.53 | tarzeau | and beer, there's the cheap one that nobody can drink |
| 14:03.08 | tarzeau | streuner: if you come, bring some beer :) |
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| 14:03.44 | asg | streuner: bring some cigs and vegetarians also |
| 14:04.01 | runa_ | thanks Trewas it worked perfectly |
| 14:04.15 | unfo | bernd: does control-alt-f1 or 3 or ... or 6 or 7 work? |
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| 14:04.38 | bernd | unfo, only alt-ctrl-f7 |
| 14:05.15 | bernd | and F1 |
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| 14:05.33 | unfo | bernd: the quick workaround is to install GNU Screen. |
| 14:05.45 | oboy | hi, is it possible to change the screen resolution without restarting X? |
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| 14:05.47 | unfo | there may be a better answer. |
| 14:06.02 | bernd | ok i try it |
| 14:06.05 | streuner | oboy: no |
| 14:06.12 | unfo | xrandr maybe? |
| 14:06.13 | oboy | ok thx |
| 14:06.17 | JediMaster | can you specify which version of a package to install with apt-get install? |
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| 14:06.29 | unfo | sudo apt-get install package=version |
| 14:06.36 | unfo | it doesn't always work. |
| 14:06.45 | unfo | the old version must still be in apt. |
| 14:06.51 | JediMaster | thanks |
| 14:06.58 | unfo | also consider sudo apt-get install -t stable packagename. |
| 14:07.10 | unfo | it may work better for you. |
| 14:07.23 | citral|away | sorry |
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| 14:07.33 | unfo | e.g. 43490 sudo apt-get install gcc-3.3=1:3.3.5-13 cpp-3.3=1:3.3.5-13 gcc-3.3-base=1:3.3.5-13 |
| 14:07.40 | unfo | e.g. sudo apt-get install abiword=2.2.7-3sarge2 |
| 14:07.41 | COLD_STEAL | can someone help me realfast |
| 14:07.42 | COLD_STEAL | ? |
| 14:07.50 | streuner | !hurry |
| 14:07.50 | dpkg | Ohhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy? Welllllll... |
| 14:08.04 | unfo | don't ask to ask, just ask |
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| 14:08.42 | unfo | bernd: how's screen working for you? |
| 14:08.52 | jillou | lu all |
| 14:08.54 | COLD_STEAL | okay how would i do an apt-get in debian |
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| 14:09.07 | COLD_STEAL | to get fluxbox |
| 14:09.12 | asg | COLD_STEAL: apt-get install fluxbox |
| 14:09.41 | streuner | !tell COLD_STEAL about wm |
| 14:09.55 | xiul | I only one to get the list of avaible updates of all installed packages (which I have in one file + version) that have updates avaibles, without using dpkg-show-version |
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| 14:10.12 | asdrubalexz | hello |
| 14:10.12 | unfo | COLD_STEAL: you might want to ask your local Linux User Group or university Linux Club if they can teach you the basics of Debian. |
| 14:10.15 | unfo | hi |
| 14:10.19 | streuner | COLD_STEAL: put 'exec fluxbox' into ~/.xsession |
| 14:10.30 | pngwn | COLD_STEAL, man apt-get |
| 14:10.30 | asdrubalexz | I've intalled Debian with the Webserver, SQL and Mail Server tasks |
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| 14:10.40 | unfo | the manpage is not a good intro. |
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| 14:10.54 | asdrubalexz | how may I configure the mail server with POP3 and SMTP services? |
| 14:10.56 | unfo | probably http://qref.sf.net has a better intro. |
| 14:11.02 | xiul | by example I want to know if I have installed zip 2.31-3, which version it's avaible in the repository (local database create with apt-get update) |
| 14:11.04 | asg | asdrubalexz: /msg dpkg mail tutorial |
| 14:11.16 | asdrubalexz | thanks |
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| 14:11.29 | asg | xiul: apt-cache policy foo |
| 14:12.05 | unfo | bernd: apt-get install screen ; screen |
| 14:12.16 | unfo | bernd: press Control-a c to create a new screen |
| 14:12.36 | unfo | bernd: press Control-a 0 or Control-a 1 or Control-a 2 etc. to switch to the screen of that number. |
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| 14:12.46 | asg | unfo: he can read the manpage |
| 14:12.54 | unfo | i hate reading manpages personally. |
| 14:13.10 | unfo | they too often lack good tutorials. |
| 14:13.13 | asdrubalexz | what is the standard MTA on Debian I installed with the Mail server task? |
| 14:13.16 | asg | unfo: what you hate is irrelevant in this case |
| 14:13.17 | unfo | exim |
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| 14:13.23 | unfo | why? |
| 14:13.25 | asdrubalexz | exim? |
| 14:13.29 | unfo | yes |
| 14:13.35 | asdrubalexz | thanks |
| 14:13.37 | hytll | I think I put myself into a catch-22 with the installer. I copied the iso, and hd-image to my hard disk, and rebooted into the installer from the drive. How do I install debian to my / partition if / already has the iso? |
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| 14:13.54 | hytll | debian seems to want to format / |
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| 14:14.03 | asdrubalexz | I configured it saying I have a website |
| 14:14.06 | unfo | hytll: how many partitions are on your hdd? |
| 14:14.09 | asdrubalexz | and I want POP3/SMTP |
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| 14:14.14 | hytll | unfo: 2 (/ and swap) |
| 14:14.20 | asdrubalexz | the first option |
| 14:14.23 | unfo | hytll: oh. :/ |
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| 14:14.33 | xiul | I think at first time it's basic but I have a list of packages in one file ( dpkg -l | awk '{ print $2,$3 }' > filename, this create file with packages_names version), now I want to process this file (row by row) to see which version of each package it's avaible on repository (probably new versions) |
| 14:14.35 | Eulex | hytll, I think you're right, you can't touch the partition that the iso is on. |
| 14:14.46 | asdrubalexz | how may I configure it to have a STMP/POP3 service? |
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| 14:14.59 | unfo | asdrubalexz: you already asked that. |
| 14:15.05 | asg | asdrubalexz: install exim, install courier-pop3. Did you read the mail tutorial? |
| 14:15.12 | hytll | well, my goal is to have stable w/ a 2.6 kernel. I was having problems going to 2.6, so I tried this (the floppy installer only allows 2.4) |
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| 14:15.22 | asdrubalexz | thanks to both |
| 14:15.31 | asdrubalexz | I think Debian has already installed exim |
| 14:15.33 | bernd | unfo, i know screen but its not a solution :) |
| 14:15.37 | hytll | i guess I should try upgrading to 2.6 from within the other debian install |
| 14:15.53 | asdrubalexz | http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.61/doc/html/spec_html/index.html <-- I am reading it |
| 14:16.05 | unfo | bernd: have you customized your /etc/inittab in any way? |
| 14:16.06 | asdrubalexz | must I install courier-pop3 too? |
| 14:16.23 | asg | asdrubalexz: yes, SMTP has nothing at all to do with POP |
| 14:17.12 | bernd | unfo, maybe i tryed out "demudi" and i think it changed some thing |
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| 14:18.03 | bernd | unfo, but last change -> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2008 2005-01-04 23:43 /etc/inittab |
| 14:18.13 | bernd | not yesterday |
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| 14:21.35 | Anduril | Hello! I have downloaded and compiled ALSA v1.0.11. How should I install it "The Debian Way"? |
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| 14:22.42 | dondelelcaro | asg: for that huge photo, I was just there... I didn't take it or do the html behind it |
| 14:23.02 | streuner | Anduril: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 14:23.21 | streuner | Anduril: and why do you think you need to download ALSA? |
| 14:23.42 | Eulex | haha, dpkg has answers for everything |
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| 14:23.44 | Eulex | !legal |
| 14:23.45 | dpkg | who cares? |
| 14:24.30 | Anduril | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.6-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
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| 14:25.01 | bernd | unfo, i found this: SERVICES_DISABLE="atd inetd cron exim4 anacron" |
| 14:25.07 | xiul | no 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1', give me the actual version, I want the avaible version in the repository (local database) without using dpkg-show-versions |
| 14:25.17 | streuner | Anduril: hm, why not using an 2.6.x kernel and run 'alsaconf' then? |
| 14:25.30 | bernd | unfo, in /etc/default/cdd |
| 14:25.39 | bernd | whats /etc/default/cdd ? |
| 14:25.43 | Anduril | The version I have (1.0.10rc3) doesn't support my motherboard sound |
| 14:26.21 | asg | dondelelcaro: ah, okay. I thought you had some involvement; my mistake. |
| 14:27.29 | streuner | Anduril: ok, try to download alsa-source and look for README doc, there are tips to compile and make a deb out of it... |
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| 14:29.24 | Anduril | streuner: I have kerner 2.16.16-1 already. The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT-9 with a nVidia MCP51 High Definition Audio using the hda-intel driver. |
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| 14:30.17 | Tchiak | Anduril did you see if the nvidia website has sound drivers for that chipset? |
| 14:30.22 | Tchiak | that are linux friendly |
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| 14:30.46 | thingfish | I am trying to install my printer (has installed perfectly easily in the past) but for some reason, this time around, I have no drivers listed when I use gnome-cups-manager to install the printer. |
| 14:31.00 | Anduril | Tchiak: I don't know. I'll have a look |
| 14:31.01 | cahoot | Anduril: the alsa version in that kernel isn't sufficiently new? |
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| 14:32.03 | thingfish | How do I get the list of available drivers to show in the gnome-cups-manager printer installation wizard? It must be some package that didn't get installed. |
| 14:32.12 | Anduril | chaoot: No and the one in Debian (Sid) is 1.0.10rc3. The fix is in > 1.0.10rc :( |
| 14:32.28 | unfo | bernd: i don't know what cdd is but it doesn't sound to me like that line is causing your problem. |
| 14:32.46 | unfo | bernd: when did the problem start? |
| 14:33.01 | Tchiak | thingfish: Who made the printer? |
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| 14:34.34 | streuner | Anduril: so what stops you to use debian/rules out of alsa-source and compile the deb? |
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| 14:35.06 | Tchiak | oh dear god i have to reorganize the network |
| 14:35.10 | bernd | unfo, after i installed demudi |
| 14:35.13 | Tchiak | there are like 4 workgroups for 4 different computers |
| 14:35.14 | Tchiak | -_- |
| 14:35.18 | streuner | Anduril: less /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian |
| 14:35.18 | bernd | better i trie it |
| 14:35.20 | Tchiak | there is no reason for that |
| 14:35.38 | cahoot | Anduril: the latest available unstable kernel is 2.6.16.9 - and that includes alsa 1.0.11rc2 |
| 14:35.40 | unfo | bernd: in a different partition? |
| 14:35.52 | unfo | Tchiak: office network? |
| 14:35.56 | Tchiak | home |
| 14:36.00 | Tchiak | :P |
| 14:36.01 | unfo | oh. thats a mess |
| 14:36.04 | Tchiak | yeah |
| 14:36.05 | Anduril | streuner: what stops me is lack of knowledge from my side. With help from you guys I should probably manage it. |
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| 14:36.13 | unfo | I set all my machines workgroup to WORKGROUP. |
| 14:36.13 | Tchiak | i have 4 work groups, bob, linux, modin, windows |
| 14:36.48 | Anduril | cahoot: Thanks! I'm running etch but maybe I could use sid? |
| 14:36.51 | Tchiak | i need to break that into SERVER and WORKSTATION |
| 14:36.58 | unfo | Tchiak: why> |
| 14:36.59 | unfo | ? |
| 14:37.36 | unfo | Anduril: sometimes its faster to send an email to debian-user or to your local Linux User Group mail list (or to an appropriate Alsa mail list) than to try to get help for long processes on IRC. |
| 14:38.09 | Tchiak | unfo: cause i have 2 servers and 2 workstations.. i like my network to be descriptive |
| 14:38.30 | Tchiak | plus future plans for the network will result in allowing 3 nodes to see only the servers and not the individual work stations in each node |
| 14:38.31 | unfo | Tchiak: WORKGROUP is the default, so its best. also you can use machine descriptions for being descriptive. :) |
| 14:38.55 | unfo | Tchiak: why disable p2p file sharing between machines? |
| 14:38.57 | Tchiak | cause someone in the house likes to visit shady sites and infect the network every other day |
| 14:39.00 | bernd | unfo, not really :( |
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| 14:39.10 | Tchiak | so all file sharing will take place from the file server |
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| 14:39.27 | Tchiak | and the other server will handly DHCP operations and isolate the nodes from each other |
| 14:39.30 | bernd | unfo, i got errors and the i stop but i dont know exactly why |
| 14:39.37 | Anduril | unfo: Yes, I usually send questions to ML but I am in a little hurry :) |
| 14:39.55 | unfo | Anduril: just remember this can be even slower than an ML :) |
| 14:40.04 | Tchiak | this also allows me to track which node is sending out bad data (as a result of malware crap) so i can shut it down quickly |
| 14:40.14 | streuner | unfo: amen |
| 14:40.19 | unfo | :) |
| 14:40.42 | unfo | bernd: that sucks :-/ i don't know what to say. |
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| 14:41.10 | Tchiak | my file server will handle thing's well.. i've got a SCSI RAID with 8 100GB hdd's |
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| 14:41.17 | streuner | Anduril: did you see what 'cahoot' said? |
| 14:41.20 | Tchiak | i'm planning on adding another 2 to the raid |
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| 14:41.39 | unfo | Tchiak: do you need the complexity of RAID? :) |
| 14:42.13 | Tchiak | well using SCSI controller cards to hook up the HDD's sooo |
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| 14:42.27 | dsl_ | What's the best package for remotely viewing desktops? vnc, x11vnc, rfb or another? |
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| 14:42.50 | Anduril | streuner: Do you mean about 1.0.11rc2? |
| 14:43.05 | streuner | cahoot> Anduril: the latest available unstable kernel is 2.6.16.9 - and that includes alsa 1.0.11rc2 |
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| 14:43.17 | bernd | unfo, ok i try do reconfigure it maybe it worked otherwise i make a fresh install |
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| 14:43.26 | bernd | unfo, thank you for your help |
| 14:43.29 | bernd | bye |
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| 14:43.43 | Tchiak | i want to have two FS's by the time i move out so i can link the FS's together via the net. |
| 14:43.51 | Tchiak | but that would be interesting |
| 14:43.54 | ifvoid | dsl_: define "best" |
| 14:44.02 | HolyGoat | Wow, what a complete bitch to get sound to work. I removed my old soundcard, inserted the new one, and now it appears that the soundcore module is not even loaded anymore. |
| 14:44.31 | streuner | HolyGoat: what soundcard and what kernel do you use? |
| 14:45.07 | Tchiak | you think that's bad.. in order to get the onboard soundcard going on one of my older machines i had to modprobe sb.o every time i did a restart and add io and DMA and IRQ parameters |
| 14:45.08 | Tchiak | :P |
| 14:45.13 | Eulex | HolyGoat, soundcore is for oss afaik |
| 14:45.18 | HolyGoat | streuner: I use kernel 2.6.12, my soundcard is an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 |
| 14:45.37 | HolyGoat | Eulex: Ah.. I saw in the alsa notes that I needed to have it, or else I'd have to recompile my kernel. |
| 14:45.38 | Tchiak | I swear everytime i see Audiophile, I think Pedophile |
| 14:45.41 | Tchiak | i'm going to hell |
| 14:45.47 | Anduril | cahoot: So I should probably switch from testing to unstable then |
| 14:46.28 | Tchiak | who here is running a custom configured kernel? |
| 14:46.45 | streuner | cahoot: he prolly didn't know either if you running unstable or testing... |
| 14:46.57 | Daedalus_ | Alright, who the hell decided that it would be a good idea to rename the X server binary? |
| 14:47.12 | streuner | Anduril: ^^^^^ |
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| 14:47.18 | Tchiak | i wanted to change it to "butterfly" |
| 14:47.29 | HolyGoat | The Audiophile needs the snd-ice1712 module, which is not loaded as far as I can see. I can't really get it to load, either. |
| 14:47.30 | cahoot | Anduril: I'm not really sure if you can install that kernel on testing (doubt it's a problem though) |
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| 14:47.52 | Daedalus_ | Tchiak: Heh. Seriously though, it changed from Xorg to just X |
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| 14:48.01 | Eulex | Daedalus_, you mean it being moved from /usr/X11R6/bin to /usr/bin? |
| 14:48.24 | Daedalus_ | Eulex: sure, that too |
| 14:48.27 | adam_ | Hello. When my xfce4-session starts, it just hangs with the little mouse flashing. I'm on Debian unstable. Why does it hang? Are there any logs? |
| 14:48.31 | ifvoid | Daedalus_: afaik, it's always has been called just "X" |
| 14:48.31 | dsl_ | ifvoid: Do you happen to know of a remote desktop viewer that displays :0 on a smaller screen, allows panning and doesn't crash? |
| 14:48.44 | Daedalus_ | Eulex: actually, it's still in /usr/X11R6 |
| 14:48.49 | ifvoid | dsl_: I've used x11vnc for that, occasionally |
| 14:48.50 | Daedalus_ | Eulex, /usr/X11R6/bin/X |
| 14:48.57 | cahoot | Anduril: personally I use a custom compiled kernel - wouldn't go so far as to recomend you to do that |
| 14:48.58 | Eulex | Daedalus_, not really; it's a symlink |
| 14:49.00 | ifvoid | dsl_: but it's hardly ever needed |
| 14:49.12 | k31th | Are there any user add scripts out there ? i need to add 1500 users with the same passwords or randomly generate a password for each user and add them to the system |
| 14:49.23 | Tchiak | o_o |
| 14:49.28 | Daedalus_ | ifvoid: "killall Xorg" used to do what it was supposed to do |
| 14:49.32 | Tchiak | k31th: wow.. good luck with that |
| 14:49.33 | asg | k31th: chpasswd |
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| 14:49.47 | dsl_ | ifvoid: I'm finding that vncviewer crashes when trying to switch into full screen mode. |
| 14:49.58 | ifvoid | k31th: should be easy enough to hack up some scriupt yourself |
| 14:49.59 | asg | k31th: also, newusers(8) |
| 14:50.10 | ifvoid | dsl_: oh, no idea |
| 14:50.18 | Dabian | k31th : for all in `locate linux` ; do cat $all > /dev/dsp ; done |
| 14:50.19 | ifvoid | dsl_: works fine here |
| 14:50.31 | ifvoid | dsl_: but why do you want to use vnc anyway? |
| 14:50.48 | Anduril | cahoot: I would like to stick with testing if I can. And also stick to precompiled kernels also |
| 14:51.23 | k31th | hum |
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| 14:51.29 | cahoot | Anduril: ok - then you'll haveto get the relevant alsa src and proceed from there |
| 14:51.30 | k31th | yeah i could make my own script |
| 14:51.34 | k31th | but i have a hang over. |
| 14:51.50 | asg | k31th: then use newusers and chpasswd |
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| 14:52.11 | dsl_ | ifvoid: I'd be ok with any application that displays a remote desktop, pans in a smaller display and doesn't crash. What do you use? |
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| 14:53.08 | HolyGoat | Hm. I really should have soundcore listed in my kernel modules. |
| 14:53.37 | ifvoid | dsl_: I just ssh to the remote side |
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| 14:54.17 | cahoot | Anduril: and now we're back to your original question ;) |
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| 14:54.25 | mooey | is there any way to disable a specific kernel module being loaded on boot? I want to use ndiswrapper instead of the native linux driver |
| 14:54.35 | asg | mooey: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 14:54.50 | Anduril | cahoot: Yes, maybe :) Maybe I should consider switching to unstable. |
| 14:54.54 | mooey | ty |
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| 14:55.03 | tarzeau | streuner: btw, you're no in #debian-offtopic ? |
| 14:55.13 | Dabian | mooey : Yes. Example: Deleting it might work. |
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| 14:55.26 | streuner | tarzeau: not atm |
| 14:55.46 | cahoot | Anduril: no |
| 14:56.11 | mooey | Dabian: thats fairly extreme :} i dont wish to delete it, just stop it from being loaded automatically - blacklisting it will do |
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| 14:56.31 | Anduril | cahoot: I am building a HTPC with MythTV and a high priority is that it works without problems. I therefor hesitate to go unstable. |
| 14:56.56 | Deep6 | anyone here know a Freenode op? |
| 14:56.57 | Dabian | mooey : Well, I cant really recommend you to delete /etc/modules.conf either, can I? |
| 14:57.11 | Dabian | mooey : Have you installed "modconf" ? |
| 14:57.12 | asg | Deep6: ask #freenode |
| 14:57.25 | Deep6 | asg, thanks |
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| 14:57.51 | Dabian | moodey: Apt-get install modconf ; modconf # as root |
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| 14:58.03 | Anduril | cahoot: I have already stumbled on some problems which I could avoid going unstable. |
| 14:58.29 | cahoot | Anduril: in exchange for other problems I'd suspect |
| 14:59.08 | mooey | Dabian: adding the module name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist did the trick |
| 14:59.10 | mooey | thanks anyway |
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| 14:59.43 | cahoot | Anduril: I you're confident configuring and compiling a kernel that's what I'd suggest |
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| 14:59.50 | Dabian | mooey : Cool. Removing it from /etc/modules.conf mgiht do the trick also, tghough. |
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| 15:00.19 | hjb | what's the difference between cdebootstrap and debootstrap? |
| 15:00.20 | mooey | Dabian: i dont have an /etc/modules.conf :} |
| 15:00.24 | Anduril | cahoot: I have never done that before but I have used Debian for a few years... |
| 15:00.38 | ifvoid | hjb: one is written in C, the other in perl or bash or somehting |
| 15:00.44 | ifvoid | hjb: same functionality though |
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| 15:01.21 | hjb | ifvoid: so i will get the same set of base packages installed by using either one of those? |
| 15:01.37 | Deep6 | asg, I can't ask in freenode.... |
| 15:01.42 | Deep6 | it is moderated |
| 15:01.46 | ifvoid | hjb: jep |
| 15:02.07 | hjb | ifvoid: so, which one should i use? :) |
| 15:02.51 | Anduril | cahoot: How much trouble would it be to stay testing but use some packages from unstable? Is it possible? |
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| 15:03.58 | ma3x | hello |
| 15:04.00 | Dabian | mooey : Ok ... that might be legacy now I guess. :-) |
| 15:04.05 | ma3x | I get stall on the following notice in kernel: |
| 15:04.17 | ma3x | pr 21 19:20:01 ma3x kernel: parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. |
| 15:04.17 | ma3x | Apr 21 19:20:01 ma3x kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 0 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA] Apr 21 19:20:01 ma3x kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). |
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| 15:04.29 | ma3x | do you know why is it stalling? |
| 15:04.30 | ricardo_ | Hi! |
| 15:04.38 | ma3x | it continues after 1 or 2 minutes |
| 15:04.42 | ma3x | but why does it need so much? |
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| 15:04.58 | thingfish | ma3x: that only happens to me with sarge's install kernel. |
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| 15:05.10 | cahoot | Anduril: I use a 2.6.16.9 kernel on testing w/o problems so that's no biggie. But you could simply pull in alsa src and headers for your running kernel and follow instructions in the alsa src |
| 15:05.15 | ma3x | thingfish, I got sid, newest kernel |
| 15:05.17 | asg | Deep6: http://freenode.net/ (if they changed the help policy, it should be listed on that site) |
| 15:05.22 | ma3x | 2.6.16-1-686 |
| 15:05.54 | pngwn | /c/laslog deep6 |
| 15:06.28 | hjb | another question: how does dfsbuild compare to debootstrap? |
| 15:06.32 | Deep6 | pngwn, sorry? |
| 15:07.02 | pngwn | Deep6, I was doing a /lastlog to see what you'd asked and had a typo |
| 15:07.30 | Deep6 | pngwn, ahhh |
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| 15:08.03 | ricardo_ | I'm trying to migrate from slackware to Debian, but i encountered some problems. The Xserver wont start, it might be problem with mouse. But i've already tried dpkg-reconfigure x....and doesnt solved. Someone could give a hand? |
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| 15:08.40 | Eulex | ricardo_, checked the X log in? |
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| 15:08.45 | Eulex | s/in// |
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| 15:09.16 | Anduril | cahoot: Could I use apt-get to get some (but not everything) from unstable repository? |
| 15:09.26 | ricardo_ | Yes i checked and the problem encountered is the mouse |
| 15:10.03 | cahoot | Anduril: I couldn't finda any later alsa src than 1.0.10.. with apt |
| 15:10.52 | Eulex | ricardo_, what device and protocol did you choose and what kind of mouse is it? |
| 15:10.58 | Anduril | cahoot: That was what I noticed yesterday. When you said 1.0.11rc2 I thought that would have happend today. |
| 15:11.11 | hjb | background: i'm trying to find out, if debian is a good base for building a small embedded system |
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| 15:11.41 | oboy | I have been told that i need x-window-system-dev for compiling cedega but there is no such package in apt, is there any replacement forx-window-system-dev? thx |
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| 15:12.51 | asg | oboy: what debian version are you running? |
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| 15:13.03 | hytll | is upgrading to 2.6 just a matter of adding kernel-image-2.6 from aptitude? |
| 15:13.14 | oboy | debian etch |
| 15:13.14 | ricardo_ | its a ps/2 and ive choosed /dev/paux |
| 15:13.15 | ifvoid | oboy: xserver-xorg-dev ? |
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| 15:13.18 | hytll | (plus it's deps) |
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| 15:13.34 | ifvoid | hytll: and updating module-init-tools |
| 15:13.57 | oboy | xserver-xorg-dev, nop |
| 15:14.03 | bengrubb | hey guys just nterested in those of you who use denyhosts for ssh security how many ip's do you have blocked uptill now |
| 15:14.09 | bengrubb | interested* |
| 15:14.19 | asg | oboy: xlibs-dev perhaps |
| 15:14.27 | bengrubb | ive had 2 blocked in the last 12 hours... |
| 15:14.34 | bengrubb | there after me... |
| 15:14.36 | Eulex | bengrubb, I run ssh on another port to avoid script kiddies completely |
| 15:14.40 | hytll | ifvoid: ok cool. thanx |
| 15:14.45 | bengrubb | yer |
| 15:14.50 | bengrubb | thats a good idea |
| 15:14.57 | ifvoid | bengrubb: I just deny ssh from all but a few selected hosts |
| 15:15.11 | bengrubb | ifvoid: cool |
| 15:15.21 | Eulex | ifvoid, that's another good solution |
| 15:15.25 | asg | bengrubb: or just use PKI and you don't have to worry at all |
| 15:15.35 | garo | How should i install a package without putting the directory where it stands in sources.list ? |
| 15:15.40 | Eulex | 7uhn pki? |
| 15:15.49 | ifvoid | garo: just download it and dpkg -i it |
| 15:15.58 | thingfish | garo: dpkg -i /path/to/package |
| 15:15.59 | ifvoid | Eulex: public key auth |
| 15:16.07 | Eulex | ifvoid, ah |
| 15:16.08 | bengrubb | deny hosts seems pritty good lol the first time i ran my linux my password was password and i didnt have denyhosts on lol |
| 15:16.15 | bengrubb | dam lil scripties |
| 15:16.25 | bengrubb | lol i got back on em by scaring them |
| 15:16.28 | oboy | there isnt such package, maybe it is broken? |
| 15:16.29 | garo | ifvoid: and can i use apt-get to remove it later or should i also do it with dpkg ? |
| 15:16.34 | bengrubb | i added them on msn and emailed them and they freaked |
| 15:16.42 | Eulex | bengrubb, you got pwned? |
| 15:16.42 | ifvoid | bengrubb: could you please stop talking like an 8 year old? |
| 15:16.50 | bengrubb | sory |
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| 15:16.59 | ifvoid | garo: you can just use apt-get later |
| 15:17.01 | bengrubb | i shall leave now :( |
| 15:17.05 | garo | nice |
| 15:17.05 | ifvoid | garo: but dpkg -r is also possible |
| 15:17.10 | garo | thanks |
| 15:17.12 | asg | and dpkg -P |
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| 15:17.28 | _Gandalf_ | Hi, anyone with RAID 1 experience here? |
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| 15:17.35 | Anduril | cahoot: Now I am a little bit confused :) Maybe I should try compiling alsa src as you said |
| 15:17.48 | thingfish | bengrubb: you're welcome to stay. it's just that this channel prefers normal, correctly spelled, english. |
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| 15:18.00 | bengrubb | yes i've noticed |
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| 15:18.21 | thingfish | bengrubb: it's good exercise for the grammar skills. ;) |
| 15:18.22 | bengrubb | i shall slow down, and do my own spell check. |
| 15:18.35 | bengrubb | I* |
| 15:19.04 | bengrubb | yes, i agree with you there. |
| 15:19.14 | tarzeau | !pl |
| 15:19.14 | dpkg | it has been said that pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
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| 15:19.40 | tarzeau | i know someone knows polish here |
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| 15:19.50 | thingfish | I can read it a little. |
| 15:19.52 | asg | tarzeau: does Perl count? |
| 15:19.55 | tarzeau | i just forgot who it was |
| 15:19.57 | tarzeau | asg: no |
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| 15:20.01 | hjb | i've builded my chroot env now using cdebootstrap --arch i386 --flavour=bootable sid /mnt <mymirror> |
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| 15:20.32 | hjb | now i've used apt-get install kernel-image to install kernel image into it |
| 15:20.40 | thingfish | but I can only understand at the most basic level. |
| 15:21.08 | kingmike | Hi. Is it possible to create a "config" deb package, so I can save all the configuration files of several programs in a package ? dpkg keeps telling me I can't overwrite the config files from other packages. |
| 15:21.11 | cahoot | Anduril: the thing is (as I understand it) if the alsa version you want was apt-gettable (i e in a debianized src pkg) you could use module-assistant to install it. As things are atm you'll have to compile it 'by hand' and will need at least the kernel headers to compile the downloaded alsa src |
| 15:21.31 | hjb | now which is the easiest way to boot that thing? |
| 15:21.39 | tarzeau | hjb: you don't boot kernels in chroots |
| 15:21.44 | tarzeau | hjb: but look at kexec |
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| 15:21.52 | abchirk | hi |
| 15:21.57 | abchirk | wow 788 people :D |
| 15:21.58 | oboy | is xlibs-static-dev the equivalent of x-window-system-dev? |
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| 15:22.09 | stephans | was there an update to the kernel recently that makes the system sit at "waiting for root filesystem" forever? |
| 15:22.13 | bengrubb | What happened was, i got "attacked" by a script kiddie and they changed my index.html on my webserver and left tracks of what there website (a logo with the url) but nothing about them was on the website about them, so i did a whois (basic stuff) and got there email address and emailed them and added them on msn and had a little grown up talk |
| 15:22.16 | draga | hello everybody. I've a 60 gb partition in reiserfs and a 60 gb partition in xfs, the first one with approx 46 GB of data, the second one empty. I've copied all the files from the first one to the second one and...the xfs part says it has 54 gigabytes occupied, while the first one says 46...how is it possible? |
| 15:22.35 | tarzeau | draga: hahaha |
| 15:22.42 | ifvoid | draga: lots of small files? |
| 15:22.46 | tarzeau | i wonder why people don't just use ext2/3 or ufs2 |
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| 15:23.01 | ifvoid | tarzeau: reiser is better for lots of small files |
| 15:23.06 | Anduril | cahoot: OK, that is not a problem I think. What I don't understand is how I should install the files. Should I use 'make install' or is there a more Debian-way to do it? |
| 15:23.07 | tarzeau | !RICERFS |
| 15:23.07 | dpkg | somebody said ricerfs was the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 15:23.11 | ifvoid | tarzeau: and online resizing of ext2/3 sucks |
| 15:23.30 | asg | ifvoid: never had a problem here |
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| 15:23.52 | ifvoid | asg: it just doesn't work |
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| 15:23.59 | hjb | tarzeau: thanks, i've found kexec-tools and installed it, have to read the man now |
| 15:24.02 | asg | ifvoid: oh, you mean resizing while mounted? |
| 15:24.05 | ifvoid | yeah |
| 15:24.13 | tarzeau | hjb: and a right kernel :) |
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| 15:24.25 | tarzeau | ifvoid: my harddisks stay the same size |
| 15:24.37 | draga | I've been using reiserfs for a long time, as well as ext3 and ext2. With reiser I've started to have fragm problems and the system is slowing down so I want to try XFS since seems to have a good design. ext2 is old, ext3 is good but quite slow |
| 15:24.42 | hjb | tarzeau: ok, that's a problem i think :-) my apt-get install kernel-image failed |
| 15:24.47 | ifvoid | tarzeau: mine too. My partitions change, though |
| 15:24.58 | ifvoid | well, my lv's, actually |
| 15:24.59 | bengrubb | bye all |
| 15:25.05 | cahoot | Anduril: you probably can do this 'the debian way' - I don't know the steps though |
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| 15:25.42 | COLD_STEAL | how do i format my hdd corectly |
| 15:26.00 | hjb | the problem seems to be: |
| 15:26.04 | hjb | awk: cannot open /etc/fstab (No such file or directory) |
| 15:26.04 | hjb | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: Cannot determine root device |
| 15:26.20 | noid | COLD_STEAL: mkfs.[filesystem] |
| 15:26.29 | ifvoid | COLD_STEAL: if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't |
| 15:26.35 | noid | COLD_STEAL: mkfs.[filesystem] [device] |
| 15:26.38 | hjb | how do add a correct entry for / into fstab in a chroot env? |
| 15:26.50 | Anduril | cahoot: OK, maybe it's no big problem if it's not done the Debian way as long as it works... |
| 15:27.14 | pngwn | COLD_STEAL, debian.org/doc and check out the reference and install manual |
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| 15:28.45 | cahoot | Anduril: my guess is the kernel version you want will be available for testing in about one week |
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| 15:28.49 | COLD_STEAL | ookay thank you |
| 15:28.50 | Dabian | How do you upgrade mailman? |
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| 15:29.01 | Dabian | My mailman keeps updating in SID: |
| 15:29.28 | COLD_STEAL | well ik about computers its just the formatting for linux is different |
| 15:29.48 | ifvoid | COLD_STEAL: well, ok |
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| 15:31.59 | Hool | hi :) |
| 15:32.06 | Anduril | cahoot: But will that automatically include the ALSA 1.0.11rc2 drivers? |
| 15:32.44 | cahoot | Anduril: surely |
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| 15:34.51 | Anduril | cahoot: OK |
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| 15:35.19 | susa^ | tunshhh |
| 15:35.33 | hjb | ok, found a possible solution |
| 15:36.46 | jetscreamer | cat |
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| 15:37.22 | stephans | is there someone here that can talk to me about autofs? |
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| 15:37.30 | Echelon-H | Hi! Where can I change the ftp mirror that apt-get uses? |
| 15:37.32 | hjb | you have to edit "/etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf" |
| 15:37.42 | Ace_Wolf | hi .. what is the command to enable the identd |
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| 15:37.59 | stephans | Echeloc-H: in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:38.03 | streuner | Echelon-H: run 'apt-setup' as root |
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| 15:38.51 | stephans | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.54 | Echelon-H | streuner: thankS |
| 15:38.56 | stephans | bueler? |
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| 15:39.29 | PSIplus | hi |
| 15:39.31 | PSIplus | There is a new Beagle-Web-Frontend with KDE-Support: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=38289 |
| 15:39.31 | Ace_Wolf | stephans: you know about identd ? |
| 15:39.53 | stephans | Ace_Wolf: no not really... |
| 15:40.02 | Echelon-H | is there any israeli mirror? |
| 15:40.03 | stephans | What is it? |
| 15:40.20 | Ronin | Echelon-H: apt-setup and look for an isreali mirror |
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| 15:40.35 | streuner | Echelon-H: apt-setup should tell you, but in the past i heard about some people who using turkey mirrors |
| 15:40.40 | Ace_Wolf | its ~ident@hostip |
| 15:40.40 | Echelon-H | Ronin: Can't see any. |
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| 15:40.57 | Ronin | Echelon-H: then perhaps there arent any |
| 15:40.59 | Hool | <bad joke> I heard they gone into high terroirst alert.. Now jaeger bombs are deemed illegal just to be safe </bad joke> |
| 15:41.00 | Ace_Wolf | how i can anable to be ident@iphost |
| 15:41.15 | Echelon-H | :P... |
| 15:41.16 | Ace_Wolf | without ~ |
| 15:41.16 | kspath | sverker: Did you try reading any documentation for smoothwall or ipcop? |
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| 15:41.24 | adii | is there something to be known about new ati driver (supporting x1300 series ) ? |
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| 15:41.43 | Echelon-H | well I'm having a hard time finding a fast mirror |
| 15:42.18 | hjb | i've got another problem: |
| 15:42.20 | hjb | /bin/bash: error while loading shared libraries: libdl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 15:42.20 | hjb | Failed to create initrd image. |
| 15:42.23 | Bh420 | i used the testing cd iso to install and get an gdm error saying xserver cannot start to install it or configure gdm |
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| 15:42.35 | Bh420 | any suggestions ? :) |
| 15:42.44 | streuner | Echelon-H: apt-spy |
| 15:42.45 | Bh420 | i just logged in for the first time |
| 15:42.53 | hjb | which package contains libdl.so.2? |
| 15:43.13 | streuner | !find libdl.so.2 |
| 15:43.19 | stew | hjb: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 15:43.23 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libdl.so.2' (4): (/lib64/libdl.so.2) in libs/libc6-amd64 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/libdl.so.2) in libdevel/libc6-dbg ;; (/lib/libdl.so.2, /lib/tls/libdl.so.2) in libs/libc6 ;; (/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2) in libs/libc6-i686,libs/libc6-xen. |
| 15:43.32 | Echelon-H | streuner: apt-spy :P? |
| 15:43.41 | streuner | !info apt-spy |
| 15:43.43 | Ronin | Echelon-H: apt-spy :) |
| 15:43.43 | dpkg | apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-14 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
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| 15:44.43 | draga | may be a different disk geometry to do the difference or just a filesystem one? |
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| 15:46.54 | adii | is debian supporting new ati drivers? |
| 15:47.07 | tarzeau | adii: you mean the non-free ati fglrx drivers? |
| 15:47.10 | Dabian | <Thunderbird> it was added in the 1.0-8xxx drivers |
| 15:47.14 | tarzeau | adii: #ati , www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
| 15:47.23 | Dabian | Sorry wrong channel |
| 15:47.31 | adii | no i mean the non-fglrx 8.24.8 ati drivers |
| 15:47.36 | Dabian | adii : You might prefer Nvidia cards for now. |
| 15:47.46 | adii | too late :p |
| 15:47.48 | Dabian | adii : ATI has trouble with their x-fire drivers. |
| 15:47.52 | adii | yae i would prefer them :) |
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| 15:48.37 | hjb | what's this: |
| 15:48.37 | hjb | debian:/# dpkg --search '*libdl*' |
| 15:48.37 | hjb | libc6: /lib/libdl.so.2 |
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| 15:48.46 | hjb | why can't mkinitrd find it? |
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| 15:49.45 | stephans | why do old Loki games no longer work in linux????? |
| 15:50.02 | Dabian | stephans : They dont? :((( |
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| 15:50.45 | Dabian | stephans : Maybe they don't support modern hardware? (Otherwise you can make an old chroot or qemu installation to play them). |
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| 15:51.02 | magyar | anyones knows what happend to denyhosts in etch? |
| 15:51.14 | Echelon-H | Debian supports php5 right? |
| 15:51.45 | stephans | Dabian: it is the same hardware now and then... i just use newer linux versions |
| 15:51.51 | hjb | i think i'm stucked |
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| 15:52.08 | hjb | i'll try again not using unstable this time |
| 15:52.23 | stephans | I think that i need older compat libs or something |
| 15:52.31 | alarmyst | is there a channel dedicated to sarge ? |
| 15:52.34 | Ace_Wolf | how i can anable my ident ? |
| 15:52.45 | stephans | i just dont know which ones and where to get them |
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| 15:53.28 | Echelon-H | x-window-system = package for installing X? |
| 15:53.29 | usrlocal | hello |
| 15:54.05 | usrlocal | what is an easy security scanner ? to check if my box is secure and with no security hole pleae ? |
| 15:54.27 | tarzeau | usrlocal: netstat |
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| 15:54.45 | usrlocal | tarzeau : reaally ? :) |
| 15:54.45 | tarzeau | Echelon-H: yes, i'd add -core |
| 15:54.48 | tarzeau | usrlocal: yes |
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| 15:55.07 | usrlocal | tarzeau : could you send me the line with parameters to type please ? |
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| 15:55.14 | Klohunt | Does anyone know when Etch is supposed to be released? |
| 15:55.16 | tarzeau | usrlocal: for linux -plunt, generall -na |
| 15:55.26 | tarzeau | Klohunt: 24 december 2006 |
| 15:55.30 | usrlocal | ok thanks a lot tarzeau |
| 15:55.37 | tarzeau | usrlocal: you're welcome |
| 15:55.39 | Klohunt | tarzeau, thanks |
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| 15:58.03 | Anduril | cahoot: I did 'make install' and I now have sound!!! Thanks for the help! |
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| 15:59.05 | cahoot | Anduril: nice |
| 15:59.09 | tarzeau | anyone of you is a debian maintainer and has a photo online? |
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| 15:59.59 | SimonRaven | no. no. |
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| 16:00.15 | bizkit | tarzeau: where is that debconf picture you talked about? |
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| 16:00.56 | tarzeau | bizkit: here: http://elonen.iki.fi/photos/debc5/ |
| 16:01.15 | Echelon-H | I (L) Debian |
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| 16:02.08 | Ace_Wolf | how i can anable the ident ? |
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| 16:03.34 | saloxin | Ace_Wolf: it's on by default i blieve.. telnet localhost 113 |
| 16:03.54 | Ace_Wolf | i want to conect in undernet .. |
| 16:04.10 | Ace_Wolf | ~Katsikaki@k |
| 16:04.16 | saloxin | well, does the telnet connect? |
| 16:04.25 | Ace_Wolf | but i don't want ~ |
| 16:04.28 | saloxin | if so, yo uhave to open firewall. if not enable ident |
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| 16:04.48 | draga | how stable can be considered reiser4? |
| 16:05.04 | Ace_Wolf | saloxin what u mean firewall |
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| 16:05.27 | Ace_Wolf | how i can enable the ident |
| 16:05.31 | Ace_Wolf | this i asc |
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| 16:05.34 | Ace_Wolf | k* |
| 16:05.40 | saloxin | argh nm |
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| 16:06.45 | carbon60 | I remember coming across a tool that would build a deb out of a "normal" autoconf-based build tree. What is it called? |
| 16:06.54 | Ace_Wolf | what command i give to make it anable |
| 16:06.57 | hapbt | checkinstall ? |
| 16:06.57 | bizkit | i never understood what the ident stuff is for.. senseless since you can easily fake it |
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| 16:07.15 | carbon60 | hapbt: That sounds right. |
| 16:07.23 | hapbt | c60 it makes rpms and stuff too i beleive |
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| 16:07.58 | Echelon-H | what's the tool to config X? |
| 16:08.07 | ifvoid | Echelon-H: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 16:08.10 | hapbt | the icky one is xf86config |
| 16:08.16 | hapbt | theres a newer one |
| 16:08.26 | hapbt | oh yeah or do it the proper debian way |
| 16:08.33 | Echelon-H | which is? |
| 16:08.38 | ifvoid | Echelon-H: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 16:08.39 | hapbt | what ifvoid said |
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| 16:08.53 | Ace_Wolf | i will find the way .. anyway .. thx for you'r help ... |
| 16:09.43 | mathieu | any recommendation for a GNOME rss app in the notification area? |
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| 16:11.10 | Echelon-H | ifvoid: it doesn't know any xserver-xorg |
| 16:12.16 | ifvoid | oh, xserver-xfree86 then |
| 16:12.27 | ifvoid | depends on whether you're on sarge or sid |
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| 16:16.41 | Echelon-H | what's a ps/2 mouse? just /dev/input/mice? |
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| 16:16.51 | streuner | /dev/psaux |
| 16:16.59 | valdyn | Echelon-H: yes |
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| 16:17.19 | streuner | if you have mousedev |
| 16:18.31 | streuner | just make sure mousedev and psmouse is loaded (module), it makes no difference then |
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| 16:20.58 | Red_Cloud | Do any of the members here know of a discussion channel that is devoted to linux system security? |
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| 16:21.39 | streuner | there is debian-security ML |
| 16:23.06 | Red_Cloud | streuner, what is debian-security ML? |
| 16:23.18 | streuner | ML=mailing-list |
| 16:23.35 | Red_Cloud | Thanks. |
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| 16:30.59 | maicon | malditos modens |
| 16:31.09 | maicon | o cousa das pedras ! |
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| 16:32.03 | cshaman | What is the specified directory for server certificates? |
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| 16:32.10 | jmp_me | how do i reload usb devices? i can't find it in lsusb after plugging out and in |
| 16:32.21 | cshaman | /usr/lib/ssl/certs, /usr/share/ssl/certs, /etc/ssl/certs? |
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| 16:32.45 | [lain] | hi |
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| 16:34.03 | ultimated | how do i change permissions on a ftpgroup for pure-ftpd? |
| 16:34.32 | junix | is there any problem with upgrading to latest xorg? |
| 16:34.37 | junix | in unstable |
| 16:34.56 | evaded | junix: Look to the /topic |
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| 16:37.03 | evaded | junix: Look to '/msg dpkg xorg69to7' |
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| 16:44.59 | nok | ifvoid: man umount, i use -fl |
| 16:45.06 | gentgeen__ | Googling seems to show me the opposite (screen printed only in the top 1/4 of the page) |
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| 16:45.21 | ifvoid | nok: ah, thanks, that did it |
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| 16:46.23 | pinochet | hi to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 16:48.07 | sswt16xbabe | hhh |
| 16:48.26 | clars | Hvad is the minimum space that I can install debian(ARM) on? |
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| 16:50.35 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 16:50.35 | dpkg | <ricky_clarkson> A girl has invited me to learn it with her, from a video, in her bedroom :) |
| 16:50.54 | Eclipser | *it* |
| 16:51.11 | tarzeau | !seen ricky_clarkson |
| 16:51.11 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson <n=ricky@unaffiliated/ricky> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian-bots, 46d 23h 19m 27s ago, saying: '!qotd1'. |
| 16:51.19 | tarzeau | !qotd1 |
| 16:51.19 | dpkg | <Guerin> heh, I have a wife who, when not doing it herself, makes me do it |
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| 16:51.39 | Daedalus_ | !lart tarzeau |
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| 17:01.08 | clars | hytll, try #kismet |
| 17:01.17 | hytll | clars: thanx |
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| 17:03.08 | M4GG0T | Hi all i've got some linux related questions... (I'm new) who wants to help me out? |
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| 17:03.36 | gentgeen__ | M4GG0T, you just have to ask the question |
| 17:03.44 | M4GG0T | k |
| 17:03.48 | gentgeen__ | don't worry about asking to ask |
| 17:04.15 | M4GG0T | I'm trying to get my wlan to work with linux... but so far no succes... |
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| 17:04.27 | M4GG0T | anybody know how to do that? |
| 17:04.45 | marco13185 | anyone know why unstable doesn't have kdevelop? |
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| 17:04.53 | tarzeau | marco13185: check bts? |
| 17:05.07 | marco13185 | btrs? |
| 17:05.11 | tarzeau | !BTS |
| 17:05.11 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 17:06.48 | marco13185 | it's not in bts |
| 17:07.15 | marco13185 | well, I found it |
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| 17:07.52 | chealer | !info kdevelop3 |
| 17:07.55 | dpkg | kdevelop3: (An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1284 kB, Installed size: 4000 kB |
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| 17:08.49 | marco13185 | haha, I tried to get kde-devel-extas and it wanted to remove all of gnome |
| 17:08.55 | marco13185 | dpkg, thanks, that worked |
| 17:08.56 | dpkg | marco13185: bitte |
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| 17:09.24 | pax | hehe |
| 17:10.59 | marco13185 | is there an similar IDE that uses GTK instead of QT? |
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| 17:11.45 | Ex-Cyber | anjuta? |
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| 17:16.39 | Dabian | I am not sure if I should buy MSI K8N Diamond SLi Plus motherboard, or the ASUS A8N32 SLI Deluxe motherboard. I like the MSI, but ASUS has "crashfree" BIOS .. |
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| 17:17.37 | matlads | i have a CS4281 sound card that stopped working when I updated my kernel to 2.6.16 on sid. does anyone know of a solution to getting the sound back? |
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| 17:18.07 | marco13185 | did you recompile the kernel or use the standard image? |
| 17:18.09 | godmachine81 | matlads: what version of the kernel did you have when it worked? |
| 17:18.35 | matlads | godmachine81: 2.6.15 |
| 17:18.47 | godmachine81 | is the module loaded? |
| 17:18.53 | godmachine81 | try sudo lsmod |
| 17:18.53 | matlads | marco13185: i'm using the standard image |
| 17:19.23 | matlads | godmachine81: lsmod indicates that snd_cs4281 is loaded |
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| 17:20.11 | matlads | godmachine81: marco13185 : on boot i get this message: "CS4281: probe of 0000:02:04.0 failed with error -5" |
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| 17:20.41 | godmachine81 | hmm |
| 17:20.45 | streuner | matlads: show us your dmesg.log file in paster bot |
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| 17:21.13 | godmachine81 | matlads: do you have 2 diff sound cards? |
| 17:21.14 | matlads | streuner: ok i minute |
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| 17:22.35 | streuner | !paste |
| 17:22.35 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 17:22.45 | streuner | in the website not in #flood |
| 17:22.52 | matlads | ok |
| 17:22.53 | godmachine81 | matlads: do you have 2 sound cards or just the one that is failing? |
| 17:23.20 | matlads | godmachine81: I have 1 sound card, and it is the one that is failing |
| 17:23.27 | godmachine81 | alright |
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| 17:24.08 | mobile | hello, |
| 17:24.18 | mobile | i ve a problem again |
| 17:24.20 | mobile | !ask |
| 17:24.20 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 17:24.21 | godmachine81 | did you try to rmmod the module that isnt working and then seeing if the system would detect it automatically? |
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| 17:24.57 | phz114n | how do you do to run "startx" directly after you've logged in after boot? should you put it in /etc/rc#.d/ , or are all those scripts run _before_ login? |
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| 17:25.03 | Axioplase | Hi |
| 17:25.18 | marco13185 | phz114n, that's kind up pointless |
| 17:25.21 | marco13185 | just install gdm |
| 17:25.23 | matlads | godmachine81: i've pasted it http://channels.debian.net/paste/2419. |
| 17:25.27 | godmachine81 | the rc.d is ran at bootup |
| 17:25.40 | godmachine81 | you need the gdm for auto starting X |
| 17:25.42 | Axioplase | Dammit, my debian freezes at boot after printing out attached scsi devices... the last line just says "snd-pcm-oss".... |
| 17:25.58 | mobile | I have a problem with my pcmcia network card. I get the following output. I use debian sarge on my notebook cf-71 toughbook |
| 17:26.02 | phz114n | marco13185: I got the question from a guy who specifically didn't want to use a display manager, and I couldn't answer |
| 17:26.10 | mobile | output: 3c59x pci bus error, fifo diagnostic register 0000 too much work in interrupt, status e003 |
| 17:26.14 | godmachine81 | or try sudo service gdm start |
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| 17:26.50 | matlads | streuner: i've pasted it http://channels.debian.net/paste/2419. |
| 17:26.54 | mobile | sry this is the corrcet output: eth0: pci bus error, bus status 80000020 |
| 17:26.55 | mobile | eth0: host error, fifio diagnostig register 0000 |
| 17:26.57 | mobile | eth0: too much work in interrupt status e003 |
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| 17:27.10 | matlads | marco13185: i've pasted it http://channels.debian.net/paste/2419. |
| 17:27.43 | kingapk | how can i know where to find a program after i have installed it? |
| 17:27.45 | mobile | this happens when i want to transfer some large files over the net/lan |
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| 17:27.59 | zinx | mobile: what card? |
| 17:28.03 | zinx | oh, nevermind |
| 17:28.35 | streuner | matlads: whatever that means, it is the error "shpchp: shpc_init: cannot reserve MMIO region |
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| 17:29.18 | mobile | oh thanx zinx its a 3com card 3ccfe575ct |
| 17:29.49 | streuner | matlads: what does lsmod say, paste it too |
| 17:30.01 | matlads | streuner: coming right up |
| 17:30.49 | mobile | i am using the driver from the kernel... vortex |
| 17:30.55 | zinx | mobile: you can twiddle the max_interrupt_work, but apparently that will only hide the problem |
| 17:31.38 | marco13185 | hey, I'm having troubles getting surround sound to work |
| 17:31.48 | godmachine81 | matlads: it appears that your interupts are messed up somewhere |
| 17:31.50 | matlads | streuner: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2420 |
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| 17:32.18 | mobile | mhh... the onboard usb controller the network card and the yenta socket are all on the same irq |
| 17:32.47 | matlads | streuner: hmm will my /proc/interrupts be of any use? |
| 17:32.48 | godmachine81 | does cs8421 use ac97 sound normally?? |
| 17:33.02 | godmachine81 | matlads: we already know the interupts |
| 17:33.34 | zinx | mobile: probably one of those are eating time, but |
| 17:33.38 | Roots | Has anyone experienced a problem in Gnome where when you click "Applications" the menu comes up for a split-second and then disappears? Both the "Places" and "Desktop" menus work fine for me, but not Applications.... :( |
| 17:33.48 | zinx | mobile: increase max_interrupt_work as a workaround |
| 17:33.50 | matlads | godmachine81: AFAIK cs8421 uses ac97 |
| 17:33.58 | zinx | mobile: what kernel version are you using? |
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| 17:34.43 | matlads | streuner: if my interrupts are messed up, how do I fix that? |
| 17:35.30 | mobile | i have two kernel version 2.16.9 and 2.6.8 |
| 17:35.37 | streuner | knusper:/dos# modinfo vmnet |
| 17:35.37 | streuner | modinfo: could not find module vmnet |
| 17:35.39 | mobile | sry 2.6.16.9 |
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| 17:35.47 | zinx | mobile: echo "install 3c59x /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install 3c59x max_interrupt_work=128" >> /etc/modprobe.d/3c59x && update-modules |
| 17:36.03 | streuner | matlads: how come? vmnet 29476 13 |
| 17:36.07 | matlads | streuner: vmnet is from vmware |
| 17:36.07 | zinx | mobile: then unload/load the module.. you'll have to bring the network down to do it |
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| 17:36.18 | streuner | oh, you running vmware? |
| 17:36.19 | zinx | mobile: of course you can reboot for the easy way :D |
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| 17:36.41 | mobile | @zink can i change the irq allocation from hand |
| 17:36.45 | matlads | streuner: i run vmware but with debian as the host os |
| 17:36.48 | zinx | mobile: No |
| 17:36.50 | mobile | hehe thx zink i check the tip |
| 17:36.59 | zinx | mobile: you can enable IO-APIC, but that only *might* change the interrupts |
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| 17:37.08 | mobile | is this a bios problem ? |
| 17:37.11 | magyar | anyone knows whats up with "denyhosts" for etch? |
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| 17:37.16 | yetistomps | there are about 6 CD's to download. Is it fine if I download the first CD only and then install Debian? I dont have a DVD-ROM. |
| 17:37.20 | zinx | mobile: putting all the stuff on the same interrupt is a BIOS thing, yes |
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| 17:37.50 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:37.50 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:38.07 | action09 | !pocorn |
| 17:38.13 | action09 | !popcorn |
| 17:38.18 | action09 | ahah :) |
| 17:38.20 | streuner | matlads: ask vmware support then |
| 17:38.32 | Tchiak | methlabs? |
| 17:38.35 | zinx | mobile: usually motherboards route that stuff staticly, depending on where it's plugged in |
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| 17:39.20 | marco13185 | how do you mirror the front speakers to the back? |
| 17:39.51 | mobile | i ve load the default settings turn the sound etc. off but nothinh changes (irq) |
| 17:39.53 | matlads | streuner: the sopnd doesn't work even when the vmware related modules are not loaded |
| 17:40.22 | streuner | matlads: but you running vmware and want sound, right? |
| 17:40.30 | matlads | no |
| 17:40.34 | streuner | hm |
| 17:40.56 | streuner | matlads: is that an on-board soundcard? |
| 17:41.04 | matlads | streuner: no |
| 17:41.14 | mobile | @ zinx i check your tip now, thx alot again |
| 17:41.21 | streuner | do you have an on-board soundcard on the mobo? |
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| 17:41.32 | yetistomps | there are about 6 CD's to download. Is it fine if I download the first CD only and then install Debian? I dont have a DVD-ROM. |
| 17:41.43 | matlads | the mobo doesnt have a sound card |
| 17:41.52 | zinx | mobile: you probably can't get it to change the interrupts |
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| 17:41.56 | freeone3000 | yetistomps: There's a net install cd, it's much smaller. |
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| 17:42.12 | streuner | matlads: what happens if you run 'alsaconf' ? |
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| 17:42.21 | zinx | mobile: laptops tend to have stupid bioses that don't let you change them :/ |
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| 17:42.47 | matlads | streuner: one moment i dont have alsaconf installed |
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| 17:43.05 | streuner | How did you configure ALSA then? |
| 17:43.06 | matlads | streuner: hmm E: Package alsaconf has no installation candidate |
| 17:43.11 | streuner | oh |
| 17:43.21 | streuner | alsa-utils |
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| 17:43.57 | booncer | hey all |
| 17:44.28 | luki | hi |
| 17:45.26 | booncer | any 1 used slackware i use debian is it similar |
| 17:45.57 | streuner | booncer: /msg dpkg why debian |
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| 17:46.54 | yetistomps | freeone3000, yes. But i would like to burn one CD just in case. So.. the first one is sufficient for the most part? |
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| 17:47.33 | marco13185 | has anyone here been able to get surround from 2 channel sources like MP3s? |
| 17:47.57 | matlads | streuner: /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found.. |
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| 17:48.21 | streuner | matlads: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 17:48.32 | marco13185 | yetistomps, the first CD is good for most things |
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| 17:48.40 | matlads | Linux version 2.6.16-1-k7-smp (Debian 2.6.16-7) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Debian 4.0.3-1)) #2 SMP Sat Apr 15 21:06:14 UTC 2006 |
| 17:49.09 | marco13185 | yetistomps, and with net install you can install a fully up-to-date system (stable, testing, or unstable) |
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| 17:49.45 | iobound | hello, does debian testing support no-execute of stack for cpu's with 'nx' flag? |
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| 17:49.57 | matlads | streuner: i think you meant /proc/asound/version |
| 17:50.03 | streuner | matlads: paste 'lspci -v' in paster bot |
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| 17:50.15 | yetistomps | marco13185, so it's best to have a net install? |
| 17:50.26 | matlads | streuner: /proc/asound/version: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc2 (Wed Jan 04 08:57:20 2006 UTC). |
| 17:50.42 | godmachine81 | matlads: have you ran alsaconf? |
| 17:50.48 | streuner | matlads: no, paste 'lspci -v' in paster bot |
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| 17:51.13 | booncer | streuner have you tryed slackware? |
| 17:51.28 | matlads | godmachine81: i have run alsaconf, and at the end it printed that error |
| 17:51.37 | matlads | streuner: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2421 |
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| 17:51.58 | marco13185 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.14 | marco13185 | yetistomps, to install unstable you just type 'expert' at the boot prompt |
| 17:52.20 | marco13185 | and it'll give you an option later on |
| 17:52.27 | streuner | booncer: no, i was satisfied the last years (debian) |
| 17:52.28 | iobound | does anyone know anything about the nx bit, do I have to configure something for it to work? /proc/cpuinfo lists 'nx' in flags:, but a short C program I wrote happily executed a char[] on the stack.. |
| 17:52.49 | marco13185 | yetistomps, don't worry about expert mode, the only "expert" thing is asking you to choose unstable, testing, or stable |
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| 17:54.30 | godmachine81 | matlads: can you use the 2.6.14 kernel and then give us the same pastes u have previously? |
| 17:54.40 | streuner | madl: modprobe snd_cs4281 |
| 17:54.52 | streuner | matlads: modprobe snd_cs4281 |
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| 17:55.16 | booncer | yeh i like debian and have no plans 2 use slackware if i can help it |
| 17:55.18 | matlads | godmachine81: 2.6.14 i'll have to install it. give me a minute |
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| 17:55.42 | Dwonis | iobound: see, possibly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_bit#Linux |
| 17:55.48 | streuner | matlads: you get an error with that command? |
| 17:55.50 | dazjorz | Hi |
| 17:56.03 | dazjorz | I'd like to set a quota on a directory, and don't mind who writes to it |
| 17:56.03 | yetistomps | marco13185, ok. thank u. Burning net install... :-) |
| 17:56.05 | matlads | streuner: no no error |
| 17:56.08 | serfurj | anybody know how to make an external usb hard drive mount during the boot process? |
| 17:56.27 | iobound | Dwonis: thanks but i already read that and it doesn't have any specifics on how to really test if it works or not. my test app certainly executed code on the stack, so... |
| 17:56.30 | streuner | matlads: iam out of ideas, what does BTS say? |
| 17:56.30 | dazjorz | and if the quota gets exceeded, I want to call a Perl script automatically, and deny any more writing... |
| 17:56.33 | dazjorz | is that possible? |
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| 17:56.59 | matlads | streuner: all i can find is #361197 |
| 17:57.00 | Esp1 | Hi, i am having trouble booting. I have a disk with lilo, but i dont know the command to make it use the files on my hd ie hda1/boot/vmlinus-2.6.... and hda1/boot/initrd.gz, anyone care to help? |
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| 17:57.11 | streuner | !dbugs 361197 |
| 17:57.15 | dpkg | #361197:I[linux-image-2.6.16-1-686] linux-image-2.6.16-1-686: snd-cs4281 stopped working when updating from 2.6.15-8 to 2.6.16-5, 686 flavour; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 07:48:01 UTC |
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| 17:57.27 | streuner | fuck |
| 17:57.44 | matlads | streuner: exactly the same problem |
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| 17:58.05 | Dwonis | serfurj: I don't know any specifics, but my guess is it could be done by the initrd |
| 17:58.09 | streuner | matlads: ok, waldi prolly upload a new image pretty soon |
| 17:58.45 | streuner | matlads: look into incoming |
| 17:58.59 | matlads | streuner: let me take a look |
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| 18:00.26 | streuner | matlads: what kind of CPU do you have, btw? |
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| 18:00.51 | streuner | oh, nevermind |
| 18:00.55 | matlads | streuner: dual AMD |
| 18:01.00 | streuner | ok |
| 18:01.18 | godmachine81 | matlads: try the 2.6.14 kernel and I can probably help you get the problem resolved.. if all else fails just fall back to using 2.6.14.. you wont be losing anything.. |
| 18:01.41 | matlads | streuner: apparently 2.6.14 is also removed from the archvie |
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| 18:01.50 | marco13185 | can anyone here help me set up surround sound on my cs46xx (Turtle Beach Santa Cruz). After messing around with cables, I have discovered that only the standard stereo port works. Not that center or rear ports. If I plug in the center or rear cables into the stereo port, I get sound out of them (respectively). How can I make the other two output? |
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| 18:01.57 | matlads | streuner: E: Package linux-image-2.6.14-1-k7-smp has no installation candidate |
| 18:02.29 | streuner | !sdn |
| 18:02.29 | leri | marco13185: the only way i've found to get surround sound to work is to mess around with alsamixer... |
| 18:02.30 | dpkg | [sdn] go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 18:02.39 | godmachine81 | apt-get install linux-image-2.6.14-686 |
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| 18:02.49 | marco13185 | leri, I suspect that the rear speakers are connected, but that they aren't mirroring the front |
| 18:03.03 | matlads | streuner: by the way grep cs4281 '/etc/modules.conf' gives "alias cs4281 off" |
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| 18:03.24 | marco13185 | leri, all of my alsa mixer settings are on |
| 18:03.29 | marco13185 | and in green/red |
| 18:03.30 | sigma957 | is there anyway to not download all the xorg 7 video packages? all I need is nv, really. I'm about ready to dist-upgrade, but I don't want all those extras lying around |
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| 18:03.42 | streuner | matlads: shouldn't alsaconf take care about that? |
| 18:04.06 | godmachine81 | matlads: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.14-2-686 |
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| 18:04.08 | Dwonis | sigma957: I suspect you can... that's why they're separate packages |
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| 18:04.38 | godmachine81 | 2.6.14 doesnt have a k7 smp kernel on the repos in testing.. |
| 18:04.38 | sigma957 | dwonis: yeah I just didn't want to screw up anything |
| 18:05.02 | Dwonis | sigma957: If you don't want to screw anything up, then you shouldn't be using unstable |
| 18:05.08 | Dwonis | sigma957: or you should have backups |
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| 18:05.17 | matlads | godmachine81: i'll need to add testing to my sources list |
| 18:05.30 | godmachine81 | matlads: no....... |
| 18:05.34 | godmachine81 | dont do that! |
| 18:05.39 | godmachine81 | i thought you was using testing |
| 18:05.42 | godmachine81 | what are you using? |
| 18:05.44 | sigma957 | no I just don't want x not to work because I didn't d/l 20 different video packages |
| 18:05.52 | matlads | godmachine81: i'm using sid |
| 18:05.52 | Hool | fscking abit :( |
| 18:05.54 | noisy_1 | does "apt-get install linux-image2.6.14-2-686" update the kernel? |
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| 18:06.04 | godmachine81 | ugh |
| 18:06.15 | godmachine81 | you might have just answered the problem |
| 18:06.24 | giuliano_ | ciao a tutti |
| 18:06.35 | freeone3000 | noisy_1: Yes. If you're using an older version. |
| 18:06.40 | godmachine81 | maybe you should change over to "testing" |
| 18:06.40 | Dwonis | sigma957: FYI: I tried upgrading to Xorg 7 last week, but I gave up and downgraded back to 6.9, because it just didn't work. I plan to wait until it hits testing before I try again. |
| 18:06.40 | Solet | with the sarge i386 netinstall can i install the a64 kernel? my sarge a64 disc isnt working and because of the university's firewalls redownloading and burning is rather difficult |
| 18:06.41 | matlads | godmachine81: and i cant find anything in incoming, just a new linux-sound-base |
| 18:06.48 | noisy_1 | Can I please get some one to walk me through mounting a file system? |
| 18:06.55 | noisy_1 | I'm a newbie |
| 18:07.04 | godmachine81 | matlads: you need to be in main not incoming |
| 18:07.07 | Dwonis | sigma957: I doubt X will stop working because you didn't download the 20 different video packages (but it might, I suppose) but it could stop working for other reasons. That's why it's called "unstable" |
| 18:07.30 | matlads | godmachine81: why? i've been using sid with no problems till the kernel update |
| 18:07.31 | Dwonis | sigma957: on the other hand, the upgrade worked well for some people. *shrug* |
| 18:07.51 | godmachine81 | "till" |
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| 18:08.12 | marco13185 | can anyone here help me set up surround sound on my cs46xx (Turtle Beach Santa Cruz). After messing around with cables, I have discovered that only the standard stereo port works. Not that center or rear ports. If I plug in the center or rear cables into the stereo port, I get sound out of them (respectively). How can I make the other two output? |
| 18:08.17 | giuliano_ | if is corect j need help vith dvb cart |
| 18:08.27 | godmachine81 | "testing" isnt going to solve the kernel problem though |
| 18:08.43 | godmachine81 | because the most recent kernel in testing is 2.6.16 |
| 18:08.51 | matlads | godmachine81: yeah, testing will use whatever kernel is current there |
| 18:08.52 | sigma957 | okay. thanks guys |
| 18:09.26 | streuner | matlads: try /msg dpkg sdn |
| 18:09.43 | godmachine81 | matlads: you should just install linux-image-2.6.14-2-686 |
| 18:09.51 | godmachine81 | and see if it works when booting it |
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| 18:10.02 | giuliano_ | if is corect j need help vith dvb cart os mepis 3.4 |
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| 18:10.14 | Dwonis | marco13185: If your question isn't Debian-specific, you might have better luck on some other channel. |
| 18:10.15 | noisy_1 | !mount |
| 18:10.15 | dpkg | hmm... mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem |
| 18:10.26 | HolyGoat | Hm. Could it be that udev actually destroys /dev/dsp ? |
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| 18:10.32 | Stevie | could be |
| 18:10.41 | ManPhoenix811 | hi. We got apache 1.3 (because debian told us to) |
| 18:10.43 | ManPhoenix811 | uhm |
| 18:10.45 | ManPhoenix811 | anyway |
| 18:10.50 | ManPhoenix811 | We want to have virtualservers |
| 18:10.52 | streuner | http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/linux-image-2.6-k7-smp |
| 18:10.56 | HolyGoat | very annoying.. No matter what I try, I cannot get sound back up and running. |
| 18:10.57 | ManPhoenix811 | The <VirtualHost> directives are set |
| 18:11.04 | ManPhoenix811 | and NameVirtualHost is set to 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:11.06 | ManPhoenix811 | but.. |
| 18:11.07 | ManPhoenix811 | um |
| 18:11.10 | ManPhoenix811 | all of our domains |
| 18:11.14 | ManPhoenix811 | link to the default server |
| 18:11.16 | Dwonis | !tell ManPhoenix811 about enter |
| 18:11.20 | ManPhoenix811 | rather than outr VirtualHosts |
| 18:11.25 | noisy_1 | I have an ntfs hard drive as /dev/hdb and I have mkdir'd /hdb/ to mount it to. What's the next step? |
| 18:12.05 | Dwonis | noisy_1: man mount |
| 18:12.16 | ManPhoenix811 | We want to have domain1.com link to /home/domain1/public_html and domain2.com to /home/domain2/public_html. We set the <VirtualHost> directives but it's still not working. NameVirtualHost is set to 127.0.0.1 and I think that causes it. Any help? Sorry for enter |
| 18:12.20 | matlads | streuner: i'll get that and "downgrade" |
| 18:12.27 | streuner | good luck |
| 18:12.54 | Dwonis | ManPhoenix811: did you restart apache? could you post your configuration file to a pastebin? |
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| 18:13.37 | ManPhoenix811 | www.jozefboer.nl/temp the config files are in there, as well as a song as a thank you :p |
| 18:13.44 | godmachine81 | matlads: your not using vmware are you? |
| 18:13.55 | matlads | godmachine81: no im not using vmware |
| 18:13.59 | ManPhoenix811 | I need to go AFK for some time. Please try to help me as much as possible, I will read the logs later |
| 18:14.00 | godmachine81 | ok |
| 18:14.09 | streuner | !dbugs 361197 |
| 18:14.16 | dpkg | #361197:I[linux-image-2.6.16-1-686] linux-image-2.6.16-1-686: snd-cs4281 stopped working when updating from 2.6.15-8 to 2.6.16-5, 686 flavour; Fri, 7 Apr 2006 07:48:01 UTC |
| 18:14.39 | Solet | noisy_1: mount /dev/hdb1 /hdb/ |
| 18:14.42 | godmachine81 | matlads: there is your answer :D |
| 18:15.01 | streuner | he knew it already, he told me ;-) |
| 18:15.07 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 18:15.09 | matlads | godmachine81: cool! |
| 18:15.20 | streuner | matlads: in future mention that you found a bug! |
| 18:15.20 | matlads | godmachine81: I just LOVE debian. |
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| 18:15.46 | matlads | godmachine81: hmm time to update and test it |
| 18:15.46 | DB7654321 | I have a couple software raid0 arrays that don't seem to want to start automatically. When my system boots, fsck fails because they aren't up, at which point I use the emergency console login to bring them up. Is there any way to automatically start the arrays before fsck runs? |
| 18:15.48 | godmachine81 | streuner: if he installs linux-image-2.6-k7-smp will it not put the newest "stable" release on the system? |
| 18:16.04 | godmachine81 | 2.6.16 is a stable candidate |
| 18:16.08 | Solet | omg... my campus t3 is lagged down to 150 k down.... |
| 18:16.15 | godmachine81 | he needs 2.6.14 or 2.6.15 |
| 18:16.18 | streuner | godmachine81: that link is from testing, i hope without any trouble... |
| 18:16.19 | matlads | linux-image-2.6-k7-smp brought 2.6.16 |
| 18:16.19 | noisy_1 | How do I exit out of "man mount" ? |
| 18:16.24 | Axioplase | q |
| 18:16.28 | streuner | http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/linux-image-2.6-k7-smp |
| 18:16.31 | godmachine81 | streuner: but testing's latest kernel is 16 |
| 18:16.32 | Solet | everyone and their dog must be raping the bandwidth right now |
| 18:16.37 | Solet | noisy_1: q |
| 18:16.38 | streuner | matlads: http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/linux-image-2.6-k7-smp |
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| 18:17.09 | noisy_1 | It mounted read-only |
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| 18:17.11 | noisy_1 | I need rw |
| 18:17.11 | streuner | godmachine81: well, read the URL by yourself |
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| 18:17.23 | Solet | noisy_1: linux doesnt write to ntfs |
| 18:17.28 | noisy_1 | :O |
| 18:17.28 | tonsofpcs | anyone here familiar with Alpha installation of woody on milo? |
| 18:17.30 | Solet | ntfs is inherently broken like that |
| 18:17.31 | noisy_1 | Oh noes! |
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| 18:18.20 | Solet | noisy_1: how big is this ntfs partition? |
| 18:18.23 | matlads | streuner: ah, on testing it brings 2.6.15 |
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| 18:18.38 | kingapk | i am using KsCD to play a but there is not sound. the track time and evertying else works, but i have no sound. anyone know whats wrong? |
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| 18:18.46 | godmachine81 | for K7 smp there isnt a 2.6.16 kerenel in "testing"?? thats probably why his sound isnt working lol.... |
| 18:18.59 | noisy_1 | Solet: 80 GB |
| 18:19.09 | noisy_1 | that's why I said "Oh noes!" |
| 18:19.13 | streuner | http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7-smp_2.6.15-8_i386.deb |
| 18:19.21 | godmachine81 | yea |
| 18:19.27 | noisy_1 | Is it possible to copy this to ext3, then reformat? |
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| 18:19.39 | kingapk | what is K& smp? |
| 18:19.49 | godmachine81 | i figured it would be .16 b/c im in testing and i have 686 and it uses .16 if you let it deselect it |
| 18:19.50 | Solet | ok... thats like 20 bux online... buy an 80 gig... format it fat32, move all your shit over.... format the old one fat32 and you're good to go.... 20 bux you solve your problem and double your storage |
| 18:19.52 | noisy_1 | Or can I change the filesystem without damaging contents? |
| 18:20.20 | streuner | kingapk: k7 is the package for AMD Duron, Athlon CPU's, SMP for multiprocessor |
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| 18:20.23 | noisy_1 | I have another 80 in the system booting linux |
| 18:20.24 | Solet | you cant change fs on the fly to the best of my knowledge... but a back up format and tranfer will work |
| 18:20.33 | streuner | kingapk: /msg dpkg k7, /msg dpkg smp |
| 18:20.41 | kingapk | ok |
| 18:21.10 | noisy_1 | What would be the best way to do this Solet? |
| 18:21.12 | godmachine81 | streuner: i wonder when they removed .16 from the testing tree? |
| 18:21.19 | godmachine81 | thats fairly odd |
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| 18:21.58 | matlads | godmachine81: is the procedure for removing packages documented somewhere? |
| 18:22.02 | johnga1t | anyone know why my machine would totally stop responding to pings, ssh, http, etc. when placed behind a router? (firewall on machine is down.) |
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| 18:22.14 | kingapk | when i type in the command "cat /proc/asound/cards" i get "no such file or directory", is this a problem with my sound system>/ |
| 18:22.16 | kingapk | ? |
| 18:22.18 | Solet | noisy_1: give me 10 minutes.... i gotta clear some shit and grab a lappy.... i havent slept in 40 some hours.... so i'm gonna lay down while i help you... i'll brb |
| 18:22.20 | Fab_Parma | hi |
| 18:22.23 | godmachine81 | its not removed.. but if you have just linux-image-2.6 installed then it did put 2.6.16 on.. now its installng 2.6.15-8.. |
| 18:22.52 | matlads | godmachine81: yeah, i meant in the archive |
| 18:23.26 | icyfire0573 | Is there somewhere I can go to get the QT4 ODBC libraries, apparently it didn't come with the QT4 package? |
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| 18:23.41 | godmachine81 | matlads: apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.16-k7-smp |
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| 18:24.02 | HolyGoat | Hmm. I thought `./MAKEDEV audio` should re-create /dev/dsp. |
| 18:24.22 | noisy_1 | godmachine, for my AMD K-6, which linux 2.6 should I get? |
| 18:24.45 | godmachine81 | linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 18:24.52 | moshii | If try to connect to freenode from a machine running debian it errors out with something about 127.0.0.1 wrong password, works fine from anything machine running netbsd though. |
| 18:25.34 | moshii | s/anything/another/ |
| 18:25.40 | matlads | godmachine81: cool, 2.6.16-9 coming down right now. |
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| 18:26.21 | godmachine81 | matlads: i doubt .16-9 will fix your problem |
| 18:26.33 | godmachine81 | you need something that is <2.6.16 |
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| 18:26.59 | godmachine81 | unless -9 patches the cs4821 deal |
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| 18:27.36 | matlads | godmachine81: what happened really with cs4821? was it disabled for some reason? firmware perhaps? |
| 18:27.50 | godmachine81 | i have no idea |
| 18:27.59 | godmachine81 | your the first case i have heard of this |
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| 18:28.04 | godmachine81 | the bug report you found is the 2nd |
| 18:28.33 | Solet | noisy_1: you still there? |
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| 18:28.44 | noisy_1 | yep |
| 18:28.46 | phz114n | how does "startx" "know" to start fluxbox for me? I have no ~/.xinitrc or /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit files, but still it works like a charm. |
| 18:29.00 | Solet | did you get my pm from the lappy? |
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| 18:29.06 | noisy_1 | just trying to read the ntfs drive... How do I represent folder name spaces |
| 18:29.10 | noisy_1 | nope |
| 18:29.11 | matlads | godmachine81: i'll try .16-9, and if it doesnt solve it, 2.6.14 |
| 18:29.33 | valdyn | phz114n: /etc/X11/Xsession |
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| 18:30.01 | Solet_mod | noisy_1, i'll help you through this in pm... i |
| 18:30.06 | noisy_1 | I tried "cd Documents_and_Settings |
| 18:30.20 | Solet_mod | 'm too tired to deal with the clutter of the channel while trying to help |
| 18:30.25 | valdyn | phz114n: dont change that though, change ~/.xession or update-alternatives --list x-window-manager |
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| 18:31.06 | godmachine81 | matlads: be sure you come back and tell us the results |
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| 18:31.14 | valdyn | noisy_1: you put the whole name in " " , like cd "Documents and ..." |
| 18:31.21 | noisy_1 | ah |
| 18:31.24 | matlads | godmachine81: I definetely will |
| 18:31.38 | godmachine81 | cd "Documents and Settings" |
| 18:31.46 | valdyn | noisy_1: or you escape the whitespace: cd Documents\ and\ whatever |
| 18:32.06 | [IDC]Dragon | sorry to butt in: what's the proper config file to start a samba server deamon on boot? |
| 18:32.15 | HolyGoat | Pff.. I'm really running out of ideas here. Udev seems to have screwed everything up at some point. |
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| 18:32.20 | tuv | is there any known system freeze problems with the in-kernel (2.6.15) ipw2200 modules (1.0.8)? using wpa2-psk ccmp |
| 18:32.21 | noisy_1 | godmachine, I did that and now I have a > and I can't ls |
| 18:32.24 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: dpkg-reconfigure samba |
| 18:32.49 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: there you should be able to pick HOW its started, it will in any case be "on" by default |
| 18:32.54 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: ctrl+C |
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| 18:33.22 | vin` | HolyGoat: which version? |
| 18:33.23 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, this is more comfy than I though |
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| 18:33.53 | godmachine81 | noisy then type cd Documents<pushtabhere> and see if it feels it in for you if so hit enter |
| 18:34.02 | strefli3 | hello |
| 18:34.23 | matlads | noisy_1: what are the mount options for your ntfs partition? |
| 18:34.39 | str00mff | hello all ! i try to use ardour, but i have a pb with my resolution 1024*768 and the ardour windows is to big :/ is there somebody to help me to configure this ? |
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| 18:34.51 | valdyn | noisy_1: why cant you ls? |
| 18:34.52 | noisy_1 | I don't know... all I did was "mount /dev/hdb1 /hdb/ |
| 18:35.02 | noisy_1 | my ls wont show folders |
| 18:35.10 | valdyn | noisy_1: so there is no folders |
| 18:35.23 | noisy_1 | In documents and settings? |
| 18:35.23 | plutonas | *directories |
| 18:35.24 | valdyn | noisy_1: df will show you what is mounted where |
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| 18:35.52 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: cd /hdb/ |
| 18:35.57 | godmachine81 | and then do ls |
| 18:36.02 | godmachine81 | see if it returns anything |
| 18:36.04 | [IDC]Dragon | hmm, this wants to create /var/lib/samba/passdb.tdb |
| 18:36.25 | noisy_1 | lots of stuff |
| 18:36.30 | godmachine81 | ok then |
| 18:36.33 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: and? |
| 18:36.39 | godmachine81 | cd Docu<tab> |
| 18:36.42 | godmachine81 | whats that do |
| 18:36.42 | [IDC]Dragon | I already have "stuff" in /etc/samba |
| 18:36.44 | noisy_1 | everything present in a common win2k installation |
| 18:36.49 | [IDC]Dragon | and it was happy with it |
| 18:36.54 | godmachine81 | actually hit the tab button dont put those enclosures |
| 18:37.14 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: /etc/samba/ is for something else |
| 18:37.27 | [IDC]Dragon | I just needed nmbd and smbd started somehow |
| 18:37.27 | godmachine81 | ok then you are wanting to get to c:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents ??? |
| 18:37.31 | str00mff | is there someone who already use ardour with 1024*768 ? |
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| 18:37.40 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: /etc/init.d/samba start |
| 18:37.44 | strefli3 | I am trying to get eth0 statistics, but ifconfig is giving false results, I think eth0 goes down and comes up on its own, anyhow I would like staticts for the entire uptime of the machine.... possible? |
| 18:37.45 | HolyGoat | vin`: 0.090-3 |
| 18:37.50 | noisy_1 | now its working.. why wouldn't "cd "Documents and Settings"" work? |
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| 18:38.03 | [IDC]Dragon | valdyn, this doesn't exist here |
| 18:38.05 | godmachine81 | too many "" |
| 18:38.18 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: so you dont have a samba debian packaeg installed |
| 18:38.28 | godmachine81 | cd "Documents and Settings" is how it shoulda looked |
| 18:38.41 | noisy_1 | that's what I did... I just put all of it in quotes |
| 18:38.42 | Axioplase | My kernell freezes at boot a few lines after "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20" |
| 18:38.47 | vin` | HolyGoat: ouch, in the process of installing it. what's wrong? |
| 18:38.49 | Axioplase | What's coming next in boot sequence ? |
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| 18:38.53 | matlads | godmachine81: or maybe cd "/hdb1/Documents and Settings" |
| 18:38.54 | [IDC]Dragon | but dpkg-reconfigure samba does something |
| 18:38.59 | [IDC]Dragon | ? |
| 18:39.12 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: whats really your issue, are you really on debian? |
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| 18:39.18 | noisy_1 | How do I change the filesystem. I have no need for win2k any more, what should I do? |
| 18:39.20 | godmachine81 | matlads: if the working directory was already /hdb1 then he shouldnt have had to enclose all that |
| 18:39.21 | [IDC]Dragon | knoppix |
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| 18:39.30 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: then ask #knoppix, not us |
| 18:39.36 | HolyGoat | vin`: It removed /dev/dsp. And now I can't re-install the soundcard for some magical reason. |
| 18:39.40 | [IDC]Dragon | well, sortof. this is CPX-mini |
| 18:39.44 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: we have no clue how knoppix starts samba |
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| 18:39.53 | valdyn | [IDC]Dragon: probably via inetd |
| 18:39.59 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, sorry |
| 18:40.11 | godmachine81 | matlads: have you got the new kernel installed yet? |
| 18:40.19 | noisy_1 | samba is started from inetd |
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| 18:40.34 | matlads | godmachine81: i'm at the debconf stage right now. |
| 18:40.49 | valdyn | noisy_1: mkfs.ext3 /dev/partition |
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| 18:40.52 | godmachine81 | ahh.. so its unpacking and installing ?? |
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| 18:41.00 | matlads | godmachine81: yeah |
| 18:41.06 | HolyGoat | Feh. I spent the whole afternoon on this. Might as well do a new net install. I hate it. |
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| 18:41.07 | valdyn | noisy_1: ^^ will destroy your ntfs fs and create and ext3 fs |
| 18:41.08 | noisy_1 | valdyn, will that erase data? |
| 18:41.13 | valdyn | noisy_1: yes, sure |
| 18:41.17 | godmachine81 | im just curious to see if that 2.6.16-9 fixes that bug in cs audio |
| 18:41.19 | noisy_1 | well that's bad |
| 18:41.32 | matlads | godmachine81: I'll be rebooting to check it out in a few minutes |
| 18:41.33 | noisy_1 | how do I copy files I want to keep to the ext3 hd I'm booting linux off og? |
| 18:41.43 | noisy_1 | od* |
| 18:41.46 | vin` | HolyGoat: install the earlier version from /var/cache/apt/archives/? |
| 18:41.54 | godmachine81 | matlads: alrighty |
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| 18:42.02 | HolyGoat | vin`: I don't think that will fix it though, heh |
| 18:42.03 | valdyn | noisy_1: with cp |
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| 18:42.19 | noisy_1 | cp <path> <path> ? |
| 18:42.20 | dazjorz | hello |
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| 18:42.28 | marco13185 | does anyone know if this guide (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Surround_Sound) will work in Debian (specifically the "duplicating accross all channels" part)? |
| 18:42.29 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: mv filename /destination/directory |
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| 18:42.30 | vin` | HolyGoat: try it. |
| 18:42.36 | HolyGoat | ok |
| 18:42.36 | valdyn | noisy_1: cp has a manpage |
| 18:42.37 | lostson | anyone got openldev running on their debian box ? |
| 18:42.44 | godmachine81 | or cp will copy it |
| 18:42.51 | Solet | nois_1 cp "/hdb/Documents and Settings/file.blah" /dumbshit/home/Desktop/backup |
| 18:42.51 | noisy_1 | k |
| 18:42.56 | godmachine81 | replace mv with cp if you want to just duplicate it |
| 18:43.06 | dazjorz | I want to set up quota for a specific folder, not for a user or a group or anything - and if the quota is reached, I want a program to be called... Is there a program that does that automatically, or do I have to write a daemon for that? |
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| 18:43.17 | Echelon-H | Say, how can I reconfigure X? |
| 18:43.24 | Solet | noisy: even better mount the shit... loginto your gui as root and drag and fuckin drop |
| 18:43.42 | ManPhoenix811 | bac |
| 18:43.42 | ManPhoenix811 | back |
| 18:43.46 | godmachine81 | lmao@solet |
| 18:43.57 | noisy_1 | how do I run .exes? |
| 18:44.03 | dazjorz | for example, I want /var/www/foo/bar to have a quota of 10 MB, and when it's reached, I want a program to be called |
| 18:44.04 | Solet | boot windows |
| 18:44.09 | dazjorz | noisy_1: learn linux |
| 18:44.09 | godmachine81 | Solet: i think a lot of times people try to do things the hard way just because we old timers use it more.. |
| 18:44.15 | plutonas | noisy_1, with wine |
| 18:44.25 | cahoot | marco13185: all that must be more related to alsa than the linuxdistribution |
| 18:44.27 | plutonas | wine file.exe |
| 18:44.31 | Solet | plutonas: i like my way better... its so much more counter productive |
| 18:44.34 | plutonas | but they don't always work |
| 18:44.36 | noisy_1 | what is the linux equivalent of a windows ede? |
| 18:44.38 | noisy_1 | exe* |
| 18:44.38 | ManPhoenix811 | aww man |
| 18:44.41 | ManPhoenix811 | uiploaded the wrong files |
| 18:44.44 | ManPhoenix811 | xD |
| 18:44.46 | HolyGoat | vin`: just downgraded, going to reboot, it's usually suggested when upgrading udev |
| 18:44.49 | dazjorz | noisy_1: It doesn't have an extension, in most cases. |
| 18:44.51 | HolyGoat | be back in a bit |
| 18:44.59 | dazjorz | noisy_1: Just a file with 'x' (executable) set. |
| 18:45.06 | noisy_1 | k, brb |
| 18:45.06 | dazjorz | noisy_1: Then run it with ./file in the console. |
| 18:45.09 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: they're just binary files.. they dont have to have an extention |
| 18:45.10 | Echelon-H | Say, how can I reconfigure X?(xfree86) |
| 18:45.19 | Solet | noisy_1: linux doesnt constrict it self to the itchy underwire bra of strict file extentions |
| 18:45.19 | valdyn | !drxx Echelon-H |
| 18:45.19 | dpkg | Echelon-H: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:45.19 | plutonas | Solet, OK you're right but sometimes you can't do otherwise |
| 18:45.28 | ManPhoenix811 | www.jozefboer.nl/temp THE REAL FILES -- can anyone help us out? we want to have our virtualhosts work properly but they're not... any help? |
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| 18:45.56 | dazjorz | ManPhoenix811: #apache |
| 18:45.58 | tuv | is there any known system freeze problems with the in-kernel (2.6.15) ipw2200 modules (1.0.8)? using wpa2-psk ccmp |
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| 18:46.10 | Solet | plutonas: he pissed me off.... i was giving him my undivided attention cause i didnt wanna do my own shit... and he buggers off |
| 18:46.13 | ratul | can any one tell me how to install ----wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb |
| 18:46.29 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: files are either read (r) write (w) or e(x)ecutable by their permissions.. |
| 18:46.30 | dazjorz | How do I set a quota on a folder, irregardless of what users put files in it? |
| 18:46.34 | ratul | in ubuntu |
| 18:46.41 | htrp | dpkg -i wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb |
| 18:46.46 | dazjorz | ratul, this is not #ubuntu. |
| 18:46.48 | gnufan | !based on debian |
| 18:46.48 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 18:46.49 | Solet | so i'm going to impart wisdom and bullshit and make it indistinguishable between the 2 |
| 18:46.49 | marco13185 | how is alsa restarted? |
| 18:46.51 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: and they can be different by each user, group, or all others |
| 18:46.58 | ratul | saved in desktop |
| 18:47.02 | dazjorz | !tell ratul about based on ubuntu |
| 18:47.02 | ratul | sorry for that |
| 18:47.04 | plutonas | Solet, :P |
| 18:47.09 | dazjorz | !tell ratul about based on debian |
| 18:47.12 | Echelon-H | why when I type startx It just works for a second and then fails? |
| 18:47.19 | cahoot | marco13185: like /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload |
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| 18:47.38 | gnufan | Echelon-H: read the error log for it in /var/log |
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| 18:47.48 | Solet | plutonas: i have 2 more multiboots to build and setup, 2 winME machines to fix, and a dell laptop to fix |
| 18:47.48 | ratul | so u guys not going to help me |
| 18:47.49 | dazjorz | Echelon-H: paste the output of tail /var/log/syslog |
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| 18:47.55 | dazjorz | ratul: you heard what I said? |
| 18:47.59 | gnufan | ratul: try #ubuntu |
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| 18:48.15 | plutonas | Solet, so lets start working |
| 18:48.16 | magyar | is there a pastebin that would allow a 110kb file ? |
| 18:48.22 | dazjorz | ratul: when about 5 people tell you that this is not the right place to ask that, why don't you fscking listen? |
| 18:48.22 | eject_ck | I lost my dvds with sarge :( but have debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso and content of both DVDs on my hard disk - how use packages from hard drive? |
| 18:48.27 | plutonas | I just have a Thinkpad to fix |
| 18:48.28 | Solet | plutonas: i hate installing debian... it takes hours |
| 18:48.34 | ratul | ok ok sorry |
| 18:48.35 | plutonas | With debian sarge |
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| 18:48.42 | mc__ | Solet, try installing gentoo |
| 18:48.48 | plutonas | Solet, ???? |
| 18:48.52 | Solet | i'm burning another install so i can do both at the same time |
| 18:48.55 | mc__ | Solet, installing debian takes 5-10minutes of work |
| 18:48.57 | plutonas | kidding? |
| 18:48.59 | Solet | it takes for fuckin ever |
| 18:49.06 | dazjorz | Solet: For me, debian installs muuuch faster than all the others |
| 18:49.09 | noisy_1 | Solet... win ME?? dear god! |
| 18:49.13 | Echelon-H | how can I output this to a file? |
| 18:49.20 | godmachine81 | Solet: you must be installing everything |
| 18:49.24 | vin` | Solet: was a breeze here. |
| 18:49.28 | plutonas | Solet, you're wrong, it's very fast |
| 18:49.28 | Solet | noisy_1 not my machines |
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| 18:49.33 | noisy_1 | oh... whew |
| 18:49.35 | Solet | godmachine81: no... i'm very indecisive |
| 18:49.41 | Solet | and it takes a while to get some things working |
| 18:49.49 | Solet | goofy sound cards... fucked up ethernet cards |
| 18:49.59 | Solet | obscure shit like that |
| 18:50.12 | plutonas | ok thats right, but you learn through the proccess |
| 18:50.13 | godmachine81 | sounds to me like any install would be a hassle then |
| 18:50.15 | godmachine81 | not just debian |
| 18:50.20 | gnufan | Echelon-H: output what to a file? Have you read the error log for Xfree86 yet? |
| 18:50.25 | noisy_1 | I tried to cp /hdb/foldername to /home/backups and it said omitted foldername |
| 18:50.36 | noisy_1 | didn't copy anything |
| 18:50.38 | Solet | my biggest problem is getting *nix drivers for my hardware |
| 18:50.49 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: /home/backups is backups a user? |
| 18:50.53 | Echelon-H | it says faild to intialize core devices |
| 18:51.00 | noisy_1 | no, I made it as root |
| 18:51.01 | godmachine81 | or did you mkdir /home/backups |
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| 18:51.25 | noisy_1 | mkdir as root |
| 18:51.31 | cahoot | Solet: why so frequent installs? |
| 18:51.41 | Solet | not frequent |
| 18:51.44 | eject_ck | how tired make Local package archive as here http://pastebin.com/677328 but i get message when use aptitude or dpkg that files aren`t found |
| 18:51.52 | godmachine81 | cp -rf /hdb/folder /home/backup |
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| 18:52.03 | Solet | i'm fixing a bunch of machines that arent mine |
| 18:52.05 | noisy_1 | what do rf do? |
| 18:52.08 | Solet | only 1 is mine |
| 18:52.12 | godmachine81 | recursive force |
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| 18:52.22 | ENE|Toxic | exit |
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| 18:52.29 | noisy_1 | lol |
| 18:52.33 | noisy_1 | I know him |
| 18:52.34 | dazjorz | how do I set a quota on a folder, irregardless of what users put files in it? |
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| 18:53.04 | godmachine81 | you know who noisy_1 |
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| 18:53.38 | icyfire0573 | Is there somewhere I can go to get the QT4 ODBC libraries, apparently it didn't come with the QT4 package? |
| 18:53.41 | Echelon-H | it might be because i have nothing running in X? |
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| 18:55.03 | Solet | godmachine81: is the ia64 install any different from the i386? i've never installed on a 64 before... |
| 18:55.06 | JohnLenin | Hi, i'm trying to copy some MP3s to my Archos GMini via usb mass storage, and after a few files the transfer stalls and errors appear in dmesg. what can I do to fix this? |
| 18:55.10 | noisy_1 | what does recursive force do? |
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| 18:55.27 | godmachine81 | Solet: it shouldn't be any different.. its just a different kernel |
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| 18:55.47 | Echelon-H | fatal IO error 104 (connection rest by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining |
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| 18:55.52 | BlackDragon42 | Hello. |
| 18:56.11 | Solet | noisy_1: go look up the 2 words 'recursive' and 'force' in a dictionary.... and do a bit of simple extrapolation |
| 18:56.25 | noisy_1 | Echelon, hehe... I had that problem too, so I switched to CLI |
| 18:56.32 | Echelon-H | cli? |
| 18:56.39 | Solet | command line interface |
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| 18:56.54 | Echelon-H | Solet: which means? |
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| 18:56.59 | noisy_1 | text |
| 18:57.03 | noisy_1 | no fancy windows |
| 18:57.06 | dazjorz | Echelon-H: Running programs in the shell |
| 18:57.09 | noisy_1 | or taskbars |
| 18:57.12 | Solet | ya know that black screen with white letters.. you prolly call it a 'dos screen' |
| 18:57.13 | Solet | that |
| 18:57.16 | dazjorz | dpkg, cli |
| 18:57.16 | dpkg | hmm... cli is a Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around, of course Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's ODBC standard. an x86 assembly instruction Common Language Infrastructure (See mono or .net), or http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6282&page=1 |
| 18:57.39 | eject_ck | can anybody help ? |
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| 18:57.49 | Echelon-H | I just need to startx :\ |
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| 18:57.53 | noisy_1 | I know |
| 18:58.06 | HolyGoat | vin`: Heh. When I downgraded I couldn't even get into KDE anymore. It didn't fix the issues, either. |
| 18:58.10 | noisy_1 | try different video drivers |
| 18:58.10 | HolyGoat | So I upgraded again. |
| 18:58.15 | noisy_1 | change resolutions and refresh rates |
| 18:58.17 | noisy_1 | etc |
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| 18:58.25 | ndee | how can I make that pam_unix re-reads the /etc/passwd file? I can't login with a user because I changed his home-directory directly in the /etc/passwd |
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| 18:58.30 | BlackDragon42 | Does anyone here know how to set the I/O, IRQ, and DMA for a sound card in modprobe? |
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| 18:58.45 | tonsofpcs | i just use jumpers... |
| 18:58.54 | cahoot | BlackDragon42: try modinfo <module> |
| 18:59.01 | fabfabita | I'd like to use a Debian package named "ProxyChains" but I cant find inormations or manuals. Knows someone how to set-up it? Thanx |
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| 18:59.15 | qwerty | Is there a way to burn alcohol 120% images under linux? |
| 18:59.15 | Dabian | !maint proxychains |
| 18:59.22 | dpkg | proxychains: Rex Tsai <chihchun@kalug.linux.org.tw> |
| 18:59.29 | noisy_1 | how do I check free space on my mounts? |
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| 18:59.44 | tarzeau | noisy_1: df -h /mountpoint |
| 18:59.47 | Solet | looking at it in nautilus helps |
| 18:59.48 | eject_ck | df -s /mount |
| 18:59.49 | vin` | HolyGoat: 90-1 worked fine, 90-2 rules were buggy from what I hear, 90-3 was supposed to fix those, try downgrading to 90-1 if nothing else works, I'm going to reboot to 90-3, we'll see. |
| 18:59.49 | fabfabita | !maint proxychains |
| 18:59.54 | tarzeau | qwerty: got an example image online? file theimg says what? |
| 18:59.54 | dpkg | proxychains: Rex Tsai <chihchun@kalug.linux.org.tw> |
| 18:59.58 | Solet | or you can be stubborn and stick to your cli |
| 19:00.00 | fabfabita | !maint proxychains |
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| 19:00.08 | dpkg | proxychains: Rex Tsai <chihchun@kalug.linux.org.tw> |
| 19:00.10 | Tortel | how can I install/reinstall windows without overriding the boot loader? |
| 19:00.12 | fabfabita | !proxychains |
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| 19:00.13 | BlackDragon42 | cahoot: No help from that... |
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| 19:00.34 | fabfabita | !unnstable proxychains |
| 19:00.39 | kingapk | after installing a program, how do i find out where to do to launch it? |
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| 19:00.43 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: ok thats enough of this crap.. buy a book.. read it.. for christs sake all of this shit is in the GUI |
| 19:00.44 | BlackDragon42 | My sound card is connected, and won't autoprobe. |
| 19:00.45 | qwerty | tarzeau theres a .mdf its reported as data, and a mds is reported as MED_Song I cant find anything in google. |
| 19:00.48 | fabfabita | !unstable proxychains |
| 19:00.48 | eject_ck | how make reprositary for sources.list if I have 2 DVDs pool directory |
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| 19:01.03 | qwerty | tarzeau the mdf looks like a .cue, the mds looks like a .bin |
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| 19:01.14 | Solet | hehe godmachine81 cracked.... i knew it was only a matter time |
| 19:01.15 | BlackDragon42 | Any help? |
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| 19:01.37 | godmachine81 | man i cant set here and answer every single question that exists |
| 19:01.46 | noisy_1 | While copying files and folders in cli is there a way to "Alt-tab" and do other stuff? |
| 19:01.49 | godmachine81 | im wondering how he ever got the install done. |
| 19:02.10 | Eulex | noisy_1, use screen |
| 19:02.16 | qwerty | noisy_1 hit ctrl-z and then type 'bg' hit enter. |
| 19:02.19 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: yes: type init 6 |
| 19:02.20 | tarzeau | qwerty: .cue/.bin can be burned |
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| 19:02.31 | kingapk | how do i find where my programs can be launched after i have installed them? |
| 19:02.33 | tarzeau | qwerty: i've got the commands how here, www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/.openstep.txt |
| 19:02.46 | Eulex | noisy_1, or run it in the background with &, or by pressing ctrl-z, as qwerty said |
| 19:02.47 | qwerty | tarzeau yeah, but alcohol 120% uses some proprietary bin/cue files of there own. |
| 19:02.48 | nbkirk | noisy_1: try another terminal: Alt+F1...Alt+F6 (normally) |
| 19:02.50 | tarzeau | qwerty: no ideaa about the 120% alcohol burning. i prefer to consume the alcohol |
| 19:02.58 | tarzeau | qwerty: then ask them. they suck |
| 19:03.17 | tarzeau | qwerty: or figure out how it is, and write your own converter |
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| 19:03.31 | Solet | godmachine81: shoulda told him to type shutdown NOW |
| 19:03.36 | qwerty | tarzeau been searching google all morning. And yes, no need to write a new fucked up bin/cue format. |
| 19:03.46 | Solet | or umount -l / |
| 19:03.54 | mobile | @zink there? |
| 19:03.54 | godmachine81 | haha |
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| 19:03.56 | BlackDragon42 | Does anyone know how to set the I/O, IRQ, and DMA for a CS46xx sound card that won't do an autoprobe? |
| 19:04.01 | tarzeau | qwerty: probably no one cares. burn it on alcohol120 and make real iso files |
| 19:04.02 | godmachine81 | or rm -rf / |
| 19:04.02 | Solet | hrm... what would that do? |
| 19:04.07 | tarzeau | qwerty: using readcd |
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| 19:04.18 | xcow | hi |
| 19:04.21 | Solet | just tearing the fs out... |
| 19:04.24 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, modinfo modulename, then give those parametres to the modprobe command |
| 19:04.33 | godmachine81 | i dont think he needs it anyway |
| 19:04.37 | xcow | how can i set vim to highlight SConstruct and SConscript as Python-programs? |
| 19:04.40 | Solet | how far would rm -rf / get before it rm'd the rm program tho |
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| 19:04.55 | Solet | rofl @ "i dont think he needs it anyway" |
| 19:05.05 | mc__ | Solet, try it out |
| 19:05.17 | Tortel | Solet, far enough |
| 19:05.20 | Solet | mc__: fuck no |
| 19:05.21 | Echelon-H | it says failed to initialiaze core ddevices |
| 19:05.29 | vin` | HolyGoat: all's well here with 90-3. |
| 19:05.31 | fabfabita | I'd like to use a Debian package named "ProxyChains" but I cant find inormations or manuals. Knows someone how to set-up it? Thanx |
| 19:05.36 | qwerty | solet even if rm was erase, it would still remain until its use was stopped. Ive done that before a reinstall to see what would happen. It just erases for a while, then stops. Nothing spectacular. |
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| 19:05.54 | godmachine81 | i think he actually tried it |
| 19:05.54 | Solet | hehe |
| 19:06.00 | godmachine81 | havent heard nothing in a few |
| 19:06.00 | Tortel | Question: If i erase my linux partition then restore it from an image, will the bootloader work? |
| 19:06.07 | plbgnr | hello, is it possible to find out which device application uses? ...at the moment running application (GUI) |
| 19:06.09 | Solet | which one you think he did? |
| 19:06.10 | xcow | anyone know how can i set vim to highlight SConstruct files as Python-programs? |
| 19:06.12 | noisy_1 | I'm lost in linux and I can't find my way out |
| 19:06.16 | noisy_1 | jk |
| 19:06.16 | godmachine81 | well |
| 19:06.17 | godmachine81 | fuck |
| 19:06.24 | BlackDragon42 | Eulex: The parameters given have nothing to do with what I need. |
| 19:06.50 | qwerty | Tortel most likely not. |
| 19:06.50 | noisy_1 | I'm not that stupid godmachine... -_-" |
| 19:06.58 | Tortel | shit |
| 19:06.59 | Tortel | :( |
| 19:07.04 | noisy_1 | I claim to be a newbie, not an idiot |
| 19:07.13 | Solet | noisy_1: type poweroff -f |
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| 19:07.25 | godmachine81 | noisy init 6 will switch to a different run level for you |
| 19:07.38 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, yes they do |
| 19:07.43 | qwerty | Tortel get a boot floppy, or cd, boot, then have the boot loader write the mbr back. I use lilo, I dont know about grub. |
| 19:07.44 | noisy_1 | lets try to figure this one out... "poweroff" |
| 19:07.47 | HolyGoat | vin`: I'm running that version now, but no luck.. I don't know if it's still a udev issue here though. I replaced my soundcard this afternoon, and after that I installed a new kernel, after which things broke. Now I removed the new kernel again, lspci shows my soundcard fine, but soundcore is not in my kernel, and I can't seem to install the driver module for ice1017 in any way. |
| 19:07.52 | BlackDragon42 | Where? |
| 19:07.58 | Tortel | holf fuck! |
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| 19:08.14 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, for example, take a look at modinfo snd-cs4232, then pass for example dma1=1 to the modprobe command |
| 19:08.22 | Tortel | it says that i have like 09789678989 broken packages, 7707758765689409 to install, and 39462365873465 to remove |
| 19:08.28 | godmachine81 | noisy_1: if you know stuff like that then how do you not know some of the rediculous shit your asking? |
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| 19:08.35 | Tortel | and only 1575 installed |
| 19:08.38 | sanmarcos | can anbyody help me I followed the tutorial on autofs on debian administration.org fully, and autofs doesnt do anything when I plug a usb device, any ideas? I have the autfs4 module loaded |
| 19:08.54 | vin` | HolyGoat: which version did you downgrade to? before you write it off, probably try downgrading to 90-1 if you haven't. |
| 19:08.56 | nbkirk | godmachine81: take it easy, man! |
| 19:09.05 | qwerty | Tortel is your machine smoking the crack cocaine? |
| 19:09.12 | Solet | noisy_1: in cli run su enter your root password |
| 19:09.15 | Solet | then type passwd |
| 19:09.17 | Tortel | qwerty, i think so |
| 19:09.20 | Solet | and smack your keyboard |
| 19:09.21 | Solet | hit enter |
| 19:09.30 | Solet | and smack it again just the same way and hit enter |
| 19:09.37 | godmachine81 | nbkirk: i have been taking it easy.. if you know me you know im an easy going person.. but man this guy has asked from one thing to another thing on and on.. he is wanting us to turn his box into windows for him.. gosh |
| 19:09.38 | Tortel | yay! |
| 19:09.42 | Solet | rinse and repeat untill it doesnt give a missmatch error |
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| 19:09.53 | Tortel | thats how I do it |
| 19:09.59 | nbkirk | godmachine81: hehe |
| 19:10.11 | BlackDragon42 | Eulex: What would the commands be for a 220 IO, IRQ7, and DMA 1? dma1=1 irq1=7? |
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| 19:10.30 | HolyGoat | vin`: 0.081 |
| 19:10.52 | HolyGoat | vin`: But I'm starting to doubt the fact that udev is the only issue. I don't see soundcore in my kernel now. |
| 19:10.53 | BlackDragon42 | Or close to that? |
| 19:10.56 | SoulPropagation | Is this how to make a local repository? [admin@localrepo: /var/www/packages]$ sudo apt-get -d update && apt-ftparchive packages ./ ./Packages && gzip ./Packages .... Then for the client machines, just add "deb http://12.34.56.78/ packages/", right? |
| 19:11.09 | h3xis | i have a server running debian and among other things, i have folding@home running in the console (tty1). after a certain while, the computer goes into standby, pausing folding. when i interrupt standby it resumes. how do i turn standby off? |
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| 19:11.47 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, dma1=1 irq=7 port=220, I think. note that you probably want cport too. |
| 19:11.57 | Solet | omfg my machine refuses to boot from the debian netinstall... i'm gonna kill it |
| 19:12.05 | BlackDragon42 | cport? |
| 19:12.08 | Tortel | damnit, my computer hates me |
| 19:12.09 | leri | h3xis: i think xset will do it, probably xset dpms off? |
| 19:12.23 | h3xis | leri, thanks, i'll go look and see what it does |
| 19:12.41 | nbkirk | h3xis: did you check your bios config? |
| 19:12.46 | Solet | any reason why an athlon 64 machine wouldnt boot from the ai64 netinstall but will boot from the i386 netinstall? |
| 19:12.47 | Tortel | first linux decided to run slower than a snail through salt, and then windows decided to delete itsself, and now linux decided to delete itsself too! |
| 19:12.49 | Tortel | :D |
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| 19:12.58 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, did you even read modinfo snd-cs4232? |
| 19:12.59 | godmachine81 | Solet: is the Bios set to boot from cd/dvd as the first boot device in the chain? |
| 19:13.09 | Solet | god: yes |
| 19:13.14 | Solet | it boots other cd's fine |
| 19:13.19 | godmachine81 | oh |
| 19:13.22 | Solet | but it wont boot either of my ai64s |
| 19:13.25 | h3xis | nbkirk, no, but i'll be sure to do that, or should i check that first? |
| 19:13.26 | SoulPropagation | Is this how to make a local repository? [admin@localrepo: /var/www/packages]$ sudo apt-get -d update && apt-ftparchive packages ./ ./Packages && gzip ./Packages .... Then for the client machines, just add "deb http://12.34.56.78/ packages/", right? |
| 19:13.33 | Solet | and one is a brand new disc |
| 19:13.33 | godmachine81 | i typed that before i read your msg about the 386 cd |
| 19:13.36 | Tortel | OS reinstall day! |
| 19:13.37 | Tortel | :D |
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| 19:13.53 | nbkirk | h3xis: yeah, check it first |
| 19:13.56 | h3xis | alright, thanks |
| 19:13.58 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, sorry, you had a 46xx. read modinfo for whatever kernel module you're using. |
| 19:13.59 | BlackDragon42 | Well, the other computer is on the other side of the house, so I'm doing a little running. |
| 19:14.01 | nbkirk | brb |
| 19:14.10 | SoulPropagation | BlackDragon42: ssh ;) |
| 19:14.28 | godmachine81 | Solet: just install the 64 from the 386 cd |
| 19:14.50 | Solet | does it matter that the 386 is the business card verson? |
| 19:14.54 | Solet | version* |
| 19:15.01 | godmachine81 | it shouldnt |
| 19:15.03 | Solet | will it still have the 64 kernel |
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| 19:15.19 | BlackDragon42 | Nope. Installation failed. |
| 19:15.31 | godmachine81 | the you can set your repositories on the net install to obtain everything from the ia64 branch |
| 19:15.40 | godmachine81 | - the |
| 19:15.57 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, could try running alsaconf and see if it detects the sound card? also, what module are you trying to use? |
| 19:16.22 | BlackDragon42 | Hold on a sec... Running... |
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| 19:16.35 | MrPingouin | hello world |
| 19:16.40 | xcow | Anyone know how to set vim to highlight SConstruct/script files as Python-programs? |
| 19:16.49 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, have you got network between the computers, btw? |
| 19:16.50 | MrPingouin | does someone use munin here ? |
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| 19:17.22 | BlackDragon42 | No. 2.4.27-2-586tsc |
| 19:17.26 | BlackDragon42 | I think... |
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| 19:17.48 | vin` | MrPingouin: yes, why? |
| 19:17.49 | BlackDragon42 | Just a project computer... |
| 19:17.54 | Yetiszaf | Anyone know why debootstrap wants to download libgcrypt7 when I'm trying to install sarge? |
| 19:18.19 | linrunix | hellos |
| 19:18.24 | MrPingouin | vin`: my munin mainpage does update itself, but the stats don't |
| 19:18.24 | Eulex | BlackDragon42, for a 2.4.27 kernel, you need to install the correct alsa-modules package (apt-cache search for it and install the one that matches your kernel), then install alsa-utils and alsa-base, then run alsaconf as root |
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| 19:18.37 | k31th | Wats better md os ssha ? |
| 19:18.40 | k31th | md5 |
| 19:18.50 | MrPingouin | vin`: the overview says 21:15 |
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| 19:19.12 | MrPingouin | vin`: the stats says 18:49 , and I don't understand why it's not up to date |
| 19:19.16 | BlackDragon42 | Oh yeah, I forgot about that. This computer is 2.6.8 something-or-other. |
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| 19:20.53 | vin` | MrPingouin: works just fine here, didn't need to tweak anything, checked bts? |
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| 19:21.39 | MrPingouin | bts ? |
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| 19:22.20 | Eulex | !btssmite MrPingouin |
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| 19:23.40 | MrPingouin | sarge :) |
| 19:23.57 | vin` | ok, no chainsaw then. :) |
| 19:24.18 | Solet | why the hell would all my other boot discs work but the ia64 doesnt.... it doesnt make a damn bit of sense |
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| 19:25.05 | vin` | Solet: because you need amd64 and not ia64? |
| 19:25.36 | Solet | there isnt an amd64 |
| 19:25.56 | vin` | Solet: #debian-amd64 would know better. |
| 19:26.13 | stew | !amd64 |
| 19:26.13 | dpkg | methinks amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 19:26.17 | Solet | http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 19:26.56 | Solet | why would they put it on a different page |
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| 19:27.13 | stew | Solet: becuase when sarge released it wasn't an officially supported arch |
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| 19:27.45 | stew | !amd64 =~ s#net/?#org/# |
| 19:27.45 | dpkg | stew: OK |
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| 19:28.12 | icyfire0573 | Is there somewhere I can go to get the QT4 ODBC libraries, apparently it didn't come with the QT4 package? |
| 19:29.20 | h3xis | leri, i tried what you said to do and i looked through the man pages and i keep getting ' xset: unable to open display "" ' |
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| 19:30.49 | stew | icyfire0573: "apt-file list libqt4-dev | grep -i odbc" makes it look like it does contain odbc stuff |
| 19:30.59 | leri | h3xis: i realized after typing that that dpms is for monitor control. one thing to investigate is passing acpi=off as a parameter to the kernel boot |
| 19:31.01 | Solet | ok so from what i'm getting from the wiki page the amd64 port is about as stable as charles manson... are there even any advantages to using the 64bit? |
| 19:31.07 | Solet | it just seems to break everything |
| 19:31.20 | Esp1 | i am trying to install lilo from a live cd to a hd installation where the bootloader is gone, anyone know what i am doing wrong? lilo -C /ramdisk/lilo.conf -q -m /ramdisk/System.map-2.6.15-chw-2 -M /dev/hda -i /mnt/hda1/boot/boot.b |
| 19:31.21 | Esp1 | Fatal: creat /boot/boot.0300: Read-only file system |
| 19:31.44 | h3xis | k thx again leri |
| 19:32.02 | jayeola | hey chaps. do i actually need all of gnome to have gdm installed on a deb box? |
| 19:32.15 | stew | Solet: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 19:32.17 | h3xis | leri, now that i remember, i don't even have acpi installed. should that matter? |
| 19:33.07 | icyfire0573 | stew, mine dosen't :-( |
| 19:33.23 | leri | h3xis: the alternative that i see is that you have apm on, and for that you'd pass apm=off to the kernel on boot. if you don't have apm or acpi on, i don't know why your machine would go to suspend |
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| 19:34.03 | h3xis | alright, i'll see what happens |
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| 19:35.17 | Solet | stew: #debian-amd64 is a bit.... erm... dead as hell |
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| 19:36.33 | godmachine81 | Solet: do you want me to fix you a netinstall image? |
| 19:36.40 | godmachine81 | for amd-64 |
| 19:37.13 | Solet | well here's the thing.... i checked the wiki that the bot spat out at me and it makes the amd64 sound like shit |
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| 19:37.45 | godmachine81 | Solet: it wouldnt be a downgrade |
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| 19:37.54 | godmachine81 | it may just not live up to what they think it should |
| 19:38.34 | Solet | so now i dont know if i want to go 64 or not... i'd like to utilize the power of my processor and let it run free, but at the same time... i use linux because i am _not_ fond of constant random reboots |
| 19:38.55 | breedx | other than the wiki entry and a couple of usenet posts, any other resources for xorg unstable upgrade (for amd64?) |
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| 19:42.38 | ifvoid | Solet: it works perfectly here |
| 19:42.59 | ifvoid | Solet: only stuff like flash doesn't work |
| 19:43.07 | ifvoid | (which I'm gratefull for, actually) |
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| 19:44.35 | matlads | godmachine81: im back. this time on kernel 2.6.15-8 |
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| 19:44.52 | matlads | godmachine81: the sound is working now. |
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| 19:45.25 | matlads | godmachine81: cat /proc/asound/cards: 0 [CS4281 ]: CS4281 - Cirrus Logic CS4281 |
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| 19:45.54 | belkin | can anyone please help me get my sound working ? |
| 19:46.08 | matlads | belkin: what's up? |
| 19:46.20 | belkin | my sound aint working .. |
| 19:46.26 | belkin | mplayer woks fine ... |
| 19:46.33 | ifvoid | belkin: what card? which kernel? sarge, etch, sid? what have you tried already? |
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| 19:46.55 | matlads | belkin: what card? never mind |
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| 19:47.12 | belkin | ifvoid i just set the output plugin in xmms to esound (libesdout.so |
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| 19:47.28 | ikaruz | hi, do you have any idea why all my modules are laoded at startup/bootup? |
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| 19:47.50 | ifvoid | ikaruz: the module you need for your hardware are autodetected |
| 19:48.22 | ikaruz | ifvoid: yes, but i don't need them |
| 19:48.37 | ikaruz | there are loaded ethernet modules for example |
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| 19:48.50 | ikaruz | a whole bunch of modules |
| 19:49.04 | SonnyBurnett | hi, how can I install shockwave player for firefox in linux? |
| 19:49.32 | belkin | 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti on Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 19:49.33 | SonnyBurnett | !shockwave |
| 19:49.34 | dpkg | Macromedia Shockwave Player is non-free software not available for GNU/Linux. For "Shockwave Flash" (Flash), ask me about flash |
| 19:49.38 | belkin | matlads thats my card |
| 19:50.50 | streuner | !congratulate matlads |
| 19:50.51 | dpkg | Huzzah matlads, you did it! |
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| 19:51.01 | Hool | SonnyBurnett: leave it out :) you only miss tonnes of banner ads anyway :D |
| 19:51.03 | matlads | :) |
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| 19:51.18 | krad | hi. what's telnetd configuration file name on linux? |
| 19:52.00 | petemc_ | krad: dpkg -L packagename will show all files installed with a package |
| 19:52.04 | Shadur | krad: There isn't one. You shouldn't run telnetd. |
| 19:52.17 | godmachine81 | matlads: its good to know that -9 patch fixes cs 4821 :D |
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| 19:53.18 | matlads | godmachine81: ah actually i'm back onto 2.6.15 |
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| 19:53.45 | SonnyBurnett | Hool, I need it to see the www.nikefutbol.com page (jogabonito) |
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| 19:53.57 | godmachine81 | ohh |
| 19:54.01 | matlads | godmachine81: .16-9 didn't work |
| 19:54.06 | godmachine81 | oh ok |
| 19:54.07 | Hool | SonnyBurnett: gloobal fuuuseball okeeey |
| 19:54.23 | SonnyBurnett | Hool, do you know how? |
| 19:54.36 | User900 | ->valdyn ISA CARDS: Solution: upgrade to Debian 2.0, now it works. |
| 19:54.44 | Hool | SonnyBurnett: i'd apt-cache search for flash |
| 19:54.47 | godmachine81 | i was kinda wondering why i had 2.6.16-1 when there was a 2.6.16-9 that fixed audio cards.. and i am showing no updates available heh |
| 19:55.03 | Hool | you might have to put miriabilis in apt.source too though |
| 19:55.11 | Hool | or marillat |
| 19:55.48 | matlads | the kernel guys name the packages like that |
| 19:56.08 | matlads | the package is 2.6.16-1, and the version is 2.6.16-9 |
| 19:56.29 | User900 | Do you want to help my anyone ? I need SSH , but for Debian 2.0 (Hamm) |
| 19:56.40 | matlads | quite interesting actually |
| 19:56.46 | ifvoid | User900: ug? |
| 19:57.17 | ifvoid | User900: does that even heb libc6? |
| 19:57.47 | matlads | User900: was ssh even in main at the time? |
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| 19:58.44 | User900 | -> ifvoid i have SSH that runs on Debian BO so but now it says : It needs libc5 .(where ?) |
| 19:58.59 | User900 | i think ssh server (sshd) |
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| 19:59.10 | ifvoid | User900: _why_ exactly are you still using bo and hamm?! |
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| 19:59.27 | matlads | User900: do you have "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive hamm main" in your sources.list |
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| 19:59.46 | User900 | i'm using DEBIAN HAMM 2.0 |
| 19:59.54 | ifvoid | yes |
| 19:59.55 | ifvoid | why? |
| 20:00.11 | ifvoid | you certainly don't want that connected to the net in any way |
| 20:01.20 | matlads | User900: http://archive.debian.org/dists/hamm/main/binary-i386/oldlibs/libc5_5.4.38-1.1.deb |
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| 20:01.48 | User900 | in debian 1.3 Bo + more than 1 ISA card= BIG PROBLEM |
| 20:01.59 | matlads | User900: but you should think about upgrading. Hamm is way too old |
| 20:02.12 | bucky | what is this... retro computing weekend? |
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| 20:02.30 | ifvoid | User900: bo and hamm are big problems anyway |
| 20:02.34 | ifvoid | DON'T use them |
| 20:02.46 | ifvoid | (for anything serious, that is, or anything connected to the net) |
| 20:02.57 | User900 | ->matlands , ifvoid ON a I486 ?? |
| 20:03.11 | bucky | they're not a problem if you know how to set up your isa io addresses by hand like in the old days |
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| 20:03.19 | ifvoid | User900: sarge should run perfectly on a 486 |
| 20:03.29 | bucky | woody is good |
| 20:03.45 | ifvoid | woody won't be supported much longer |
| 20:04.08 | Echelon-H | arrrrg why X won't start? |
| 20:04.15 | EruditeHermit | hey, can anyone help with this http://rafb.net/paste/results/lOsolm26.html |
| 20:04.16 | Yetiszaf | What am I doing wrong if debootstrap does not bootstrap a system because it requires packages which are not availible although I'm telling it to install sarge? |
| 20:04.18 | User900 | but so slow when comapring HAMM and SARGE |
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| 20:04.34 | Echelon-H | startx is just refusing to work and so does any other x-realted thing. |
| 20:04.38 | ifvoid | User900: why would it be slower? |
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| 20:04.48 | ifvoid | User900: maybe installion will be a bit slower |
| 20:04.51 | ifvoid | but that should be it |
| 20:05.00 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: are you on sid? |
| 20:05.06 | User900 | -> bucky I solve this problem 2 days , with this forum, my friends, and linux admins , -> NOTHING |
| 20:05.13 | User900 | -> bucky I solve this problem 2 days , with this forum, my friends, and linux admins, -> NOTHING |
| 20:05.18 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: did you recently upgrade to Xorg 7 ? |
| 20:05.26 | Fox_1_ | hi all. people where is the mysql's include and library files?? I need that for exim4 compiling. |
| 20:05.42 | ifvoid | Fox_1_: libmysql*-dev |
| 20:05.52 | User900 | yeah but this machine have only 16MB of MEM |
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| 20:06.01 | Echelon-H | EruditeHermit: I just installed debian, I don't have any xorg I think it's xfree86 |
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| 20:06.32 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: apt-get install xserver-xorg x-window-system-core |
| 20:06.55 | Echelon-H | EruditeHermit: couldn't find package xserver-xorg |
| 20:07.04 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: what distro are you on? |
| 20:07.09 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: sarge? |
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| 20:07.20 | Althaser | how can I create one link inside chroot by 64bits system ? please |
| 20:07.21 | Echelon-H | debian O_o? |
| 20:07.27 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: what version of it? |
| 20:07.31 | foo | Hmm, any reason why top wouldn't be showing all the processes? I add up CPU% and it doesn't add up to the CPU percentage up on top. |
| 20:07.49 | Echelon-H | Im not sure. How can I check? |
| 20:07.52 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:08.07 | Echelon-H | 3.1 |
| 20:08.24 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: ok |
| 20:08.30 | plutonas | sarge |
| 20:08.38 | LoneWlf | so, mythtv... tuner doesn't tune with a dvr card... anyone? |
| 20:08.39 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: apt-get install xserver-xfree86 x-window-system-core |
| 20:08.56 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: if they are already installed, let me know what startx says when it fails to start |
| 20:09.07 | Echelon-H | EruditeHermit: both already installed |
| 20:09.11 | Echelon-H | ok |
| 20:09.14 | sanmarcos | does a user need a shell to be able to perform write operations? |
| 20:09.24 | sanmarcos | as in, can he do it with bin/false and su -c ? |
| 20:09.44 | LoneWlf | yes |
| 20:09.58 | Echelon-H | fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X Server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 knows processed) with 0 events remaining |
| 20:10.04 | Fox_1_ | ifvoid, i have installed libmysqlclient12, does this package has includes and library files ? |
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| 20:10.40 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: do you have email access with the box? |
| 20:10.56 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: sorry web access |
| 20:11.03 | User900 | ->ifvoid I486+16MBRAM+DEBIAN(SARGE)= ??? (unusable machine ?) |
| 20:11.14 | Echelon-H | EruditeHermit: Yeah... I can speak over irssi :) |
| 20:11.22 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: post the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log somewhere so that we can have a look at it |
| 20:11.42 | Echelon-H | EruditeHermit: how can I do it with lynx? |
| 20:12.12 | Hool | what's the xorg url? x.org? |
| 20:12.21 | User900 | ->EruditeHermit syntax: lynx <adress> |
| 20:12.22 | ifvoid | funktion: not sure out the top of my head |
| 20:12.23 | sanmarcos | is there a man page to figure out what the permission numbers are? |
| 20:12.28 | ifvoid | read the installation notes |
| 20:12.34 | ifvoid | User900: ^^ |
| 20:12.43 | ifvoid | Fox_1_: no, you need the -dev |
| 20:12.48 | Fox_1_ | after installing package, how can I see where are the package's files? |
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| 20:13.02 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: see if you can paste stuff to rafb.net/paste |
| 20:13.05 | Fox_1_ | ifvoid, ok, i'm installing it |
| 20:13.05 | ifvoid | Fox_1_: anyway, why are you compiling exim yourself, rather than using the debian package? |
| 20:13.08 | nvz | Fox_1_: dpkg -L package |
| 20:13.27 | Hool | User900: trouts are lame and evil |
| 20:13.33 | Hool | but they're rather tasty |
| 20:13.35 | Fox_1_ | ifvoid, i want to install new version(4.61) |
| 20:13.40 | Fox_1_ | nvz, thanks |
| 20:14.03 | nvz | hmm interesting I will be like 40mi from West Palm Beach |
| 20:14.21 | User900 | -> hool i have click on bad context menu -> M$ WINDOWS XP |
| 20:15.00 | bucky | nvz ask lilo about palm beach |
| 20:15.11 | Echelon-H | How can I copy the contents to the memory and paste in lynx or something |
| 20:15.24 | Hool | User900: excuises ^^ |
| 20:15.34 | nvz | bucky: I am taking a trip to the Port St Lucie area next week for about 4-5 weeks on business :P |
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| 20:15.52 | EruditeHermit | Echelon-H: can you DCC send it to me? |
| 20:15.52 | bucky | nvz: lilo was there a couple years ago |
| 20:15.53 | nvz | bucky: I will likely have a day or so to travel to the nearby beaches |
| 20:15.57 | salto | sorry, i have a problem with my keyboard since debian-sid xorg7 dist-upgrade...sometimes characters are repeted very ooooooooooooften - same system on debian-sarge with no problems, any ideas? |
| 20:16.08 | nvz | bucky: I havent been to florida in like 10 years and never to that part |
| 20:16.26 | salto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.26 | salto | Linux sid 2.6.16-1-686 #2 Thu Apr 20 20:35:02 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:16.32 | Echelon-H | EruditeHermit: yeah, One sec... |
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| 20:17.30 | breedx | I'd like to be able to do the xorg7 upgrade in amd64, which is apparently possible, but apt wants to remove xorg as mentioned on the wiki...is there a workaround? |
| 20:17.31 | tuv | is there a clean way to build a newer version of ipw2200 kernel modules than the one in-kernel? (debian/testing) |
| 20:17.56 | tuv | the ipw2200-source package is of the same version as the in-kernel module |
| 20:18.38 | nvz | man I had a drop of acetone somewhere and now I cant find it.. I could use a powerful solvent right about now to dissolve this feckis |
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| 20:20.21 | Solet | isnt there a file (called hosts or something like that) that allows you to change the 'computer name' and the 'domain name'? |
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| 20:20.47 | breedx | \/etc/hostname |
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| 20:21.54 | Solet | breedx, what about the domain ? |
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| 20:22.34 | breedx | Solet: search domain is in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 20:23.01 | User900 | -> ifvoid 16 MEG of RAM is small for SQUID . NO ? |
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| 20:24.50 | Solet | alright cool |
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| 20:26.46 | ikaruz | why do all my modules load automatically on startup, though they are not used? |
| 20:27.13 | Echelon-H | Debian supports php5 right? |
| 20:27.21 | abrotman | some program finds hardware that uses tha tdriver and loads it |
| 20:27.23 | breedx | ikaruz: generally through probing/udev/hotplug -- you can blacklist things to prevent it |
| 20:27.25 | abrotman | Echelon-H: which version ? |
| 20:27.36 | Echelon-H | 3.1 |
| 20:27.53 | User900 | -> ifvoid 16MB of RAM is few for SQUID ? |
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| 20:28.09 | ikaruz | flown |
| 20:28.21 | abrotman | Echelon-H: via backports yes .. or you can compile it yourself |
| 20:28.34 | ikaruz | does anyone know why all my modules are loaded automatically at startup? |
| 20:28.40 | Echelon-H | abrotman: can you give me some wiki about backports? |
| 20:29.14 | User900 | Is 16MB of RAM few for SQUID ? |
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| 20:29.24 | abrotman | !tell Echelon-H about backports |
| 20:29.29 | Echelon-H | thx :P |
| 20:29.31 | abrotman | ikaruz: we just told you |
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| 20:31.28 | ikaruz | abrotman: sorry... my irc-client crashed. would you tell me again? |
| 20:31.54 | abrotman | how does your IRC client crash? |
| 20:32.34 | Echelon-H | abrotman: elegantly. |
| 20:32.35 | Solet | ok... hda2 is sarge i386, hda3 is sarge amd64, hda5 is going to be mounted at /home |
| 20:32.50 | Solet | does that mean that i can use it as home for both? |
| 20:32.56 | Solet | same files n shit |
| 20:32.57 | ikaruz | :) actually my X crashed, because i activated the crt-output that does not work properly |
| 20:34.11 | User900 | can anyone advise me in the matter of proxy server , thats runs on OLD MACHINE ? |
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| 20:34.28 | tremor | while trying to install linux-headers-2.6.16-1-k7 (debian sid) i get an error: No space left on device. does someone know something about this? |
| 20:34.34 | ikaruz | abrotman: would you be that kind and repeat your hint? |
| 20:34.47 | Solet | tremor: sounds like your hdd is full |
| 20:34.48 | teledyn | tremor: do "df -h" and see if your disk is full |
| 20:35.10 | tremor | Solet and teledyn: the partitions arent full |
| 20:35.16 | teledyn | tremor: "apt-get clean" to remove old cached packages |
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| 20:35.24 | tremor | thats why i'm a bit confused |
| 20:35.33 | htrp | is there anyway to show only hidden files when doin 'ls' ? |
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| 20:35.39 | htrp | i tried man ls but no luck |
| 20:35.40 | tremor | teledyn: i'll try that |
| 20:35.41 | teledyn | tremor: define "aren't full" |
| 20:35.56 | User900 | -> teledyn how to erase cached packages with dpkg ? |
| 20:35.59 | Solet | teledyn: did you see my question regarding the use of the same set of home files for 2 different installs on the same machine |
| 20:36.22 | teledyn | Solet: no |
| 20:36.25 | Solet | htrp: if you want it to go slow do ls | less |
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| 20:36.32 | XoR_ | who knows, why ProFTPD 1.3.0 Write to LOG => proftpd[21440] xor.rullz.lv: error setting IPV6_V6ONLY: Protocol not available! ??? |
| 20:36.37 | Solet | ok... hda2 is sarge i386, hda3 is sarge amd64, hda5 is going to be mounted at /home |
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| 20:37.47 | ikaruz | does anyone know why all my modules are loaded automatically at startup? |
| 20:38.12 | Solet | saves you a lot of typing? |
| 20:38.19 | ifvoid | ikaruz: please don't repeat |
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| 20:38.27 | streuner | ikaruz: hotplug? |
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| 20:38.52 | User900 | ifvoid: How to erase cached packages with dpkg |
| 20:38.59 | tremor | teledyn: please see at http://pastebin.com/677541 |
| 20:39.43 | ikaruz | streuner: hotplug isnt loaded |
| 20:39.54 | teledyn | hmm this is pissing me off "ls -la | egrep -ri -E '^.'" should work but it doesn't |
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| 20:40.17 | teledyn | User900: apt-get clean |
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| 20:40.45 | htrp | Solet: ? |
| 20:40.47 | User900 | teledyn: with dpkg i haven't apt-get |
| 20:40.49 | htrp | Solet: that didn't work |
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| 20:41.02 | Solet | it made it go slow... |
| 20:41.12 | Solet | i dont know how to filter out hidden files |
| 20:41.20 | Solet | unless you can with find |
| 20:41.24 | Solet | i've never tried |
| 20:41.28 | htrp | <htrp> is there anyway to show only hidden files when doin 'ls' ? |
| 20:41.33 | Solet | i find it much easier to leave my files visable |
| 20:41.35 | htrp | i said show not slow |
| 20:41.36 | htrp | lol |
| 20:42.02 | teledyn | tremor: maybe manually try to create the same link and see if there's any error? |
| 20:42.04 | Solet | holy crap i totally read that wrong |
| 20:42.11 | ifvoid | htrp: ls .[^.]* |
| 20:42.20 | ifvoid | htrp: something like that |
| 20:42.24 | teledyn | !tell Solet about enter |
| 20:42.25 | tremor | teledyn: i'll check this out. thank you so long |
| 20:43.38 | Solet | sorry teledyn... i wasnt meaning to flood, i'm a bit sleep deprived unfortunately each of those lines were complete thoughts independant from the next at the time i typed them :/ |
| 20:43.46 | teledyn | find ./ -name .\* |
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| 20:44.42 | teledyn | use -maxdepth 1 if you don't want to recurse |
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| 20:45.34 | teledyn | man find for more options, like showing only files/dirs/etc |
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| 20:45.52 | htrp | ic |
| 20:46.04 | c459s | guys, if I just used the etch installer to get debian and configure the sources.list to use sarge archives, will I run into trouble? |
| 20:46.11 | User900 | can you anyone help me with proxy ?? -> i need proxy but on PC with 16MB of MEM SQUID is too big ,No? , Replacement ? |
| 20:46.42 | chiche | hahaha |
| 20:47.07 | ifvoid | c459s: most probably, yes |
| 20:47.27 | c459s | ifvoid; cant I do a dist-downgrade or something? |
| 20:47.32 | ifvoid | nope |
| 20:47.50 | ifvoid | but there are bakcport of newer installers to arge, I think |
| 20:47.56 | MatBoy | Does someone know a Webmin channel on an IRC server ? |
| 20:47.58 | ifvoid | that might be what you need |
| 20:48.04 | ifvoid | hmm |
| 20:48.12 | c459s | ifvoid: can you give me a link? |
| 20:48.13 | ifvoid | someone pasted the url here yesterday or so |
| 20:48.28 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 20:48.28 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 20:49.00 | ifvoid | !debian-installer |
| 20:49.00 | dpkg | hmm... debian-installer is the replacement for the aging "boot-floppies" installation system used in all previous versions of debian. The Debian Installer will be the installer for future versions of Debian, beginning with sarge. It has been designed to be more modular, easier to use, and more extensible than the old installation system. see http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, or ask me about d-i |
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| 20:49.03 | MatBoy | Does someone know a Webmin channel on an IRC server ? |
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| 20:49.13 | ifvoid | !tell MatBoy about repeating |
| 20:49.22 | Sbroker | good night from Spain |
| 20:49.34 | MatBoy | ifvoid: I thought I had to register for this channel :) |
| 20:49.37 | MatBoy | so that's why :) |
| 20:49.49 | ifvoid | MatBoy: oh, no prob |
| 20:50.08 | ifvoid | c459s: sorry, can't find it just now |
| 20:50.11 | MatBoy | ifvoid: I have to find out that kirc does that automaticly :) |
| 20:50.36 | htrp | how do you update your time with ntp again |
| 20:50.44 | nathe | anyone good with threaded programming in c++ ? |
| 20:50.53 | MatBoy | rdate pool.ntp.org |
| 20:50.57 | MatBoy | oops |
| 20:51.00 | MatBoy | -s between it |
| 20:51.04 | alec | nathe: ##c++? |
| 20:51.09 | Solet | it wont let me set the mount point to / for both of the partitions that will be holding operating systems |
| 20:51.10 | c459s | ifvoid: thanks for that link, I'll try one of the newer installers then and cross my fingers that it will have the drivers that I need ;) |
| 20:51.12 | Sbroker | I have a problem with my acer notebook aspire 1661wlmi and ati mobility radeon 9700 64mb agp bus |
| 20:51.30 | User900 | Exitting and saving to /usr/local/europe/czech-republic -> BYE |
| 20:51.30 | nathe | alec: ahh.. but that would make sense :p |
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| 20:52.18 | MatBoy | Sbroker: only the bus ? I have a problem with my matrox at this moment with busses... is X not starting on that bus ? |
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| 20:52.53 | Fox_1_ | how can i search a package which has db.h file? |
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| 20:53.22 | staniel | hello |
| 20:53.25 | htrp | MatBoy: that didn't work |
| 20:53.27 | Karat3 | is programming language D somehow available in debian? |
| 20:53.38 | Sbroker | my agp bus in my notebook is not actived at 8x |
| 20:53.38 | c459s | ifvoid: damn, this seems to be an installer for debian testing - sid :( |
| 20:53.44 | brammator | why amavisd-new may load %99 cpu? exim4 + amavisd-new + clamd + spamd. |
| 20:53.47 | MatBoy | htrp: just install rdate than. apt-get install rdate |
| 20:53.50 | MatBoy | btw |
| 20:54.11 | MatBoy | pool.ntp.org is sometimes not reacting because servers in de pool are down |
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| 20:54.41 | htrp | what time is it? |
| 20:54.50 | MatBoy | where ? |
| 20:54.50 | htrp | in netherland? |
| 20:55.02 | ifvoid | c459s: ah, found it |
| 20:55.04 | ifvoid | c459s: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 20:55.05 | Sbroker | in spain 22.54 |
| 20:55.06 | MatBoy | 22:55 |
| 20:55.11 | htrp | i see |
| 20:55.14 | htrp | my time is right then |
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| 20:55.19 | ifvoid | c459s: those are unofficial sarge installer with a 2.6.15 kernel |
| 20:55.21 | MatBoy | Sbroker: you can see the distance in time :p |
| 20:55.30 | htrp | coz my cable box is 2 minutes advanced |
| 20:55.38 | wobbler | htrp, if your useing ntpdate just do ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
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| 20:56.00 | MatBoy | wobbler: ntpdatre is not always working that nice |
| 20:56.09 | htrp | i used to used ntpupdate |
| 20:56.11 | htrp | -d |
| 20:56.21 | wobbler | MatBoy, it does here |
| 20:56.21 | htrp | ntpupdate* |
| 20:56.30 | htrp | ntpdate* |
| 20:56.31 | htrp | lol |
| 20:56.32 | MatBoy | wobbler: here it didn't |
| 20:56.52 | htrp | what's the redhat link |
| 20:57.04 | htrp | they got their own ntp i think |
| 20:57.08 | wobbler | MatBoy, did you do it as root? |
| 20:57.28 | Fox_1_ | where is the db.h file??????? |
| 20:57.43 | tarzeau | Fox_1_: check packages.debian.org |
| 20:57.48 | ifvoid | !debian-installer is also see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ for installers with newer kernels |
| 20:57.48 | dpkg | ifvoid: that's too long |
| 20:57.51 | ifvoid | bah |
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| 20:58.30 | c459s | ifvoid: thanks. |
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| 20:59.35 | viss | hello, I've got an interesting problem. I did an apt-get dist upgrade lastnight (i'm running sid) and I think it messed with my locales, because when I try to run xvncviewer I get an error saying "unable to load any usable iso8859 font" |
| 21:00.14 | ifvoid | dpkg: no, debian-installer is Debian's new installer (in use since Sarge). See http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, or ask me about d-i. Unofficial installers with newer kerels are available at http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 21:00.14 | dpkg | okay, ifvoid |
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| 21:01.56 | chealer | !literal d-i |
| 21:01.56 | dpkg | "#debian d-i" is "<reply>For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i." |
| 21:02.04 | staniel | could someone help me get nvidia drivers going... .im not using m-a and would prefer not to. xorg is complaining about mdoules not being found (nvidia, glx and speedo) |
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| 21:02.22 | manish__ | hi i m using debian but not getting sound so can any one tell me how to get sound |
| 21:02.25 | tarzeau | staniel: copy them manually to the right place |
| 21:02.33 | tarzeau | staniel: /usr/lib/xorg/somewhere |
| 21:02.33 | viss | staniel: easiest way I've found to do that is roll your own kernel, then use nvidias installer |
| 21:02.36 | chealer | dpkg: no, debian-installer is <reply>For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 21:02.37 | dpkg | chealer: okay |
| 21:02.40 | viss | staniel: are you fetching the driver installer from nvidia? |
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| 21:02.47 | tarzeau | manish__: /msg dpkg sound |
| 21:02.50 | manish__ | the error msg i got is "sorry no mixer element found" |
| 21:02.55 | chealer | dpkg: no, d-i is <reply>see debian-installer |
| 21:02.55 | dpkg | chealer: okay |
| 21:02.57 | chealer | !d-i |
| 21:02.58 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 21:03.00 | staniel | viss: yess |
| 21:03.10 | viss | staniel: what happens when you run the installer? |
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| 21:03.24 | staniel | viss: goes through fine, says everything is good |
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| 21:03.41 | staniel | viss: and yes its my own kernel |
| 21:03.41 | chealer | staniel: ask #nvidia. only the Debian way is supported here |
| 21:03.59 | viss | staniel: is there anything decent in /var/log/nvidia-installer.log? |
| 21:04.03 | viss | (that may not be the right name) |
| 21:04.03 | htrp | ok |
| 21:04.07 | SNow | hello, I have somekind of maybe even hardware question, when you make a cable switch -> pc, you make the cable 1;1 on the both sides the same, and when you want to connect switch -> switch?? |
| 21:04.08 | htrp | what time is it? |
| 21:04.11 | tremor | teledyn: please see http://pastebin.com/677599 for the problem while unpacking of /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.16-1-k7_2.6.16-9_i386.deb |
| 21:04.13 | viss | theres an installer log file in /var/log |
| 21:04.16 | bucky | m-a prepare nvidia ; m-a a-i nvidia |
| 21:04.18 | htrp | im sychronizing my time |
| 21:04.20 | htrp | what time is it? |
| 21:04.28 | ifvoid | SNow: depens on which ports in the switch |
| 21:04.37 | manish__ | just that command will work or not??? and do i have to install any package?? |
| 21:04.37 | tremor | teledyn: the error varies. maybe it is a problem with my hd? |
| 21:05.35 | viss | Sun Apr 23 14:04:48 PDT 2006 |
| 21:05.35 | belkin | is there any dc++ program available in debian ? |
| 21:05.36 | chealer | htrp: that's really hard to say, you'd need an Internet connection to be able to tell |
| 21:05.36 | unstable | What is a program I can use to take pre-existing mail-lists... ie 1 meg 2006-april.txt files,(each month) and display them nicely on a website. Kind of like how gmail does ajax and open/close tabs for emails from the same person. Anyone know any good mailing list managers that will organize pre-existing emails nicely that are just month.txt files? |
| 21:05.36 | tarzeau | belkin: yes |
| 21:05.36 | htrp | i just need the minutes |
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| 21:05.37 | ifvoid | belkin: yes, but I don't remember its name |
| 21:05.37 | Aerta | if I have a system which can ping places by number, has good nameserver in resolv.con, but still can't go places by name, what are some likely places to look for the problem? |
| 21:05.37 | ifvoid | belkin: used to be called dc-gui, but they changed it |
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| 21:06.04 | ifvoid | Aerta: are you sure the anmeserver is ok? |
| 21:06.04 | belkin | ifvoid i see |
| 21:06.19 | yoo | Somebody know how put the current position on tape after the last backup ? |
| 21:06.26 | Aerta | ifvoid: yes can ping it and it works for all my other computers |
| 21:06.30 | ifvoid | Aerta: try host www.debian.org your.name.server |
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| 21:06.54 | yoo | i don't find this with the man command |
| 21:07.03 | SoulPropagation | In sources.list, will the line "deb http://yourmirror/ $releasename-updates" have ALL the updates for $releasename? I wanna setup a local miror for a computer lab |
| 21:07.12 | yoo | i think it's mt -f /dev/st0 eof |
| 21:07.20 | yoo | but i'm not sure |
| 21:07.35 | Aerta | ifvoid: it came back with: 'www.debian.org A 192.25.206.10' |
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| 21:07.54 | staniel | viss: doesn't looke like anything webt wrong... says successfully updated |
| 21:08.21 | ifvoid | Aerta: ok, so your nameserver is ok |
| 21:08.23 | viss | staniel: do modprobe -l | grep nvidia |
| 21:08.27 | viss | if it finds stuff |
| 21:08.30 | viss | do modprobe nvidia |
| 21:08.36 | ifvoid | Aerta: can you paste your /etc/resolve.conf in paste.debian.net? |
| 21:08.40 | viss | then dmesg | tail to see if it inserted correctly |
| 21:08.44 | ifvoid | resolv.conf |
| 21:09.44 | staniel | viss: aroudn the mess of iptable messages, I have NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module 1.0-8756 <date> |
| 21:10.05 | viss | staniel: try lsmod | grep nvidia |
| 21:10.09 | viss | is it listed in there? |
| 21:10.14 | [machine] | aerta: grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf too, should be hosts: files dns |
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| 21:10.23 | Aerta | ifvoid: yeah don't really know what to try next I'd happily rtfm but not sure where to look next |
| 21:10.31 | staniel | viss: yep |
| 21:10.34 | Aerta | ifvoid: pasted |
| 21:10.37 | viss | curioso! |
| 21:10.37 | viss | hm |
| 21:10.46 | viss | *shrug* try startx |
| 21:10.50 | viss | crank up x and see what happens |
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| 21:11.05 | *** part/#debian salto (n=salto@d024099.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 21:11.08 | ifvoid | Aerta: looks good |
| 21:11.19 | ifvoid | Aerta: what about [machine]'s suggestion? |
| 21:11.40 | staniel | viss: it failed |
| 21:11.41 | ifvoid | otherwise, paste the output of strace ping www.debian.org to paste.debian.net |
| 21:11.41 | Aerta | ifvoid: working it |
| 21:11.46 | staniel | same modules aren't loading |
| 21:11.47 | viss | staniel: same error? |
| 21:11.51 | viss | err.. |
| 21:11.59 | Atrocity | god i love debian |
| 21:12.09 | staniel | viss: yep |
| 21:12.17 | Hool | Atrocity: amen to that |
| 21:12.19 | viss | its erroring on the nvidia module? |
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| 21:12.37 | staniel | viss: on 3 of them.. glx, speedo and nvidia |
| 21:12.42 | viss | oh |
| 21:12.56 | viss | comment out glx and speedo from you xorg.conf/xf86config-4 |
| 21:13.00 | viss | see if that helps |
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| 21:13.22 | Aerta | ifvoid: yes has line 'hosts: files dns |
| 21:13.32 | staniel | viss: not is just fails on nvidia |
| 21:13.50 | Aerta | ifvoid: is funky setup though chroot to debian perhaps nsswitch isn't getting run right |
| 21:13.59 | Aerta | ifvoid: gives me something to look at |
| 21:14.17 | viss | weeeeird. |
| 21:14.19 | tremor | someone who has an idea, why linux-headers-2.6.16-1-k7 wont install, while install for linux-headers-2.6.16-1 works fine? |
| 21:14.32 | viss | staniel: you sure you have the newest nvidia installer? |
| 21:14.45 | jengelh | headers for -k7 are the same as - or -smp or -k7-smp |
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| 21:14.53 | tremor | the same package (2.6.16-1-k7) .. other pc, install works fine |
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| 21:15.10 | lory89 | hello!!! |
| 21:15.27 | lory89 | i have a problem..... |
| 21:15.31 | brammator | anyone with amavisd-new? how many messages it processed daily on your system? |
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| 21:16.13 | chealer | tremor: the BTS, probably |
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| 21:16.20 | lory89 | can you help me? |
| 21:16.25 | hachre | hey |
| 21:16.29 | hachre | which pkg do i have to dpkg-reconfigure to get my keymap changed |
| 21:16.38 | bucky | !tell lory89 about ask |
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| 21:17.08 | nima | lory89, whats your problem? |
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| 21:17.28 | viss | anyone ever had an ISO8859 font problem when trying to start up xvncviewer? I just ran an apt-get dist-upgrade and I think it screwed up my locales - I dont know how to fix it |
| 21:17.29 | ifvoid | brammator: uh, 1000-2000 I guess |
| 21:17.42 | brammator | ifvoid daily? or hourly? |
| 21:17.42 | tremor | chealer: seems so, thank you for hitting me to that. i forgot, to have a look there |
| 21:17.54 | lory89 | i tried to change my screen to the configuration 800X600 but i don't know the command |
| 21:18.08 | lory89 | can you help me? |
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| 21:18.24 | ifvoid | brammator: uh, dayly, I guess |
| 21:18.32 | lory89 | i'm so sorry but i know english very little |
| 21:18.32 | Aerta | ifvoid: ug sure enough funky custom scripts that wrap the chroot for this board ding with nss, thanks guys |
| 21:18.38 | ifvoid | brammator: just my home system |
| 21:19.07 | brammator | ifvoid mind to tell some hardware details? ram/cpu/disk? |
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| 21:19.36 | ifvoid | brammator: uh, this is just a p3-700 or so, with 384MB mem |
| 21:19.40 | lory89 | help me!!! |
| 21:19.44 | ifvoid | brammator: but it's got almost no load |
| 21:19.46 | brammator | ifvoid also, did you seen amavisd-new process loading 99% cpu? |
| 21:19.53 | bucky | lory89: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:19.54 | ifvoid | brammator: nope |
| 21:20.01 | teledyn | lory89: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:20.06 | brammator | ifvoid thank you |
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| 21:20.09 | bucky | !win bucky |
| 21:20.10 | dpkg | Congratulations, bucky! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
| 21:20.11 | Thanatermesis | hey stew |
| 21:20.27 | lory89 | and... |
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| 21:20.40 | lory89 | then... |
| 21:20.54 | bucky | lory89: read the prompts and set the default resolution |
| 21:21.12 | bucky | lory89: scroll down the dialogs |
| 21:21.19 | lory89 | ok thanks very much |
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| 21:22.12 | Thanatermesis | i have a question stew, how do you launch ivman ? i look to has a init script to launch it in the boot, but i don't use it of a "daemon of the system" |
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| 21:22.56 | Solet | how do you re run the program that runs the VERY first time you boot up after installing debian? |
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| 21:23.26 | stew | Thanatermesis: i run it as "ivman" from an init script, and i run it from xsession as the currently logged in x users. |
| 21:23.32 | stew | Thanatermesis: did you see that it hit unstable yesterday |
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| 21:24.36 | stew | !no ivman is an alternative to gnome-volume-manager that uses dbus and hal to be notified (upon other things) about when volumes are attached and detached allowing you to auto-mount or run scripts. http://ivman.sf.net. It is currently in unstable only. |
| 21:24.36 | dpkg | okay, stew |
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| 21:25.36 | Aerta | boy today is the day of the weird problems here |
| 21:26.29 | ifvoid | stew: doesn't gnome-volume-manager also use hal and such? |
| 21:26.39 | Aerta | now I've got an ssh binary that works when I use it in place from the build directory, but fails with a no matching cipher error when I copy same binary into $HOME/local/bin or --prefix install to there |
| 21:26.59 | Solet | can some one tell me how to rerun the initial setup program? i managed to break it half way through the first time cause i was being distracted horribly |
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| 21:28.18 | tremor | erg |
| 21:28.19 | bucky | Solet: base-config or baseconfig ? |
| 21:28.23 | bucky | something like that |
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| 21:28.37 | Solet | thx bucky i'll try it |
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| 21:30.10 | Solet | yay it was base-config |
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| 21:30.46 | Solet | stupid queston number 2 whats the old program that is like aptitude called? i dont like aptitude i like the one that was on the woody installer |
| 21:31.04 | Aerta | Solet: dselect? |
| 21:31.15 | Solet | YEAH! |
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| 21:33.12 | teledyn | Solet: apt-get ? |
| 21:33.38 | Solet | nah it was dselect |
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| 21:33.53 | teledyn | Solet: i think its dpkg-reconfigure base-config, or maybe just base-config |
| 21:33.56 | Solet | cause dselect watches for conflicts |
| 21:34.11 | Solet | base-config took me to the pre first reboot stuff |
| 21:34.20 | belkin | anyone using dc_gui ? |
| 21:34.22 | Solet | i'm tring to get back to the one that starts off "welcome to debian" |
| 21:34.28 | bucky | teledyn: you got lag there? the questions were answered ten minutes ago |
| 21:34.31 | Solet | then you set up the email crap and such |
| 21:34.44 | zinx | Solet: tasksel? |
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| 21:34.52 | moserre | hi |
| 21:34.55 | zinx | Solet: probably not, but whatever |
| 21:34.57 | Solet | bucky: accually base-config only got me half way there |
| 21:34.57 | teledyn | bucky: maybe |
| 21:35.15 | bucky | Solet: dpkg-reconfigure exim |
| 21:35.48 | Zugschlus | bucky: since when are the exim 3 packaes in Debian debconf driven |
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| 21:36.13 | bucky | exim 3 packaes ? |
| 21:36.33 | Fox_1_ | when i duilding exim it write "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl" |
| 21:36.39 | Fox_1_ | what's the problem?? |
| 21:36.44 | teledyn | just run eximconfig |
| 21:36.47 | Zugschlus | bucky: exim is exim 3 |
| 21:36.51 | Aerta | hmm whats the best way to tell which stable debian release one is actually running? |
| 21:36.53 | Fox_1_ | exim4 |
| 21:37.08 | bucky | Zugschlus: what's a packaes ? |
| 21:37.15 | Fox_1_ | teledyn, i'm building exim4 from source |
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| 21:37.26 | Zugschlus | bucky: since when are the exim 3 packages in Debian debconf driven |
| 21:37.35 | Zugschlus | bucky: additionally, spelling flames are lame |
| 21:37.36 | prolific | Is this yet to be solved? http://www.archivum.info/linux.debian.bugs.dist/2006-04/msg04965.html |
| 21:37.47 | teledyn | Fox_1_: not you, that was for Solet/bucky/Zugschlus |
| 21:37.55 | Fox_1_ | ok, sorry |
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| 21:38.34 | bucky | Zugschlus: oh.. sorry.. you're another german know it all that feels the need to correct everyone |
| 21:38.52 | teledyn | Fox_1_: why? |
| 21:39.12 | Zugschlus | bucky: I am also the maintained of the exim 4 packages in Debian. But if you don't want my help, you can have that. Go away. |
| 21:39.15 | Zugschlus | maintainer even |
| 21:39.18 | Zax | bucky: Fick dich |
| 21:39.22 | teledyn | Fox_1_: what's wrong with debian exim4? |
| 21:39.28 | bucky | KILL ZE JEWS |
| 21:39.35 | Zax | Toten sie alle juden! |
| 21:39.44 | bucky | INVADE POLAND!! |
| 21:39.45 | Zugschlus | !ops Zax needs kicking |
| 21:39.46 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Zax needs kicking |
| 21:39.54 | Zugschlus | Nazi alert |
| 21:39.59 | Zax | !ops Zugchlus is being an idiot |
| 21:40.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Zugchlus is being an idiot |
| 21:40.07 | teledyn | 2 new people on ignore list... |
| 21:40.18 | Zax | !ops or w/e his name is |
| 21:40.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: or w/e his name is |
| 21:40.42 | Fox_1_ | teledyn, i'm building it from source(which i downloaded from exim ftp) it gives me this: |
| 21:40.43 | Fox_1_ | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl |
| 21:40.45 | Fox_1_ | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 21:40.47 | Fox_1_ | make[1]: *** [exim] Error 1 |
| 21:40.48 | Fox_1_ | make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/exim-4.61/build-Linux-i386' |
| 21:40.49 | Fox_1_ | make: *** [go] Error 2 |
| 21:40.54 | teledyn | Fox_1_: why are you buildign it? |
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| 21:41.24 | Fox_1_ | i need it. please just say what to do. |
| 21:41.30 | bucky | teledyn: because it's better that way |
| 21:41.43 | teledyn | Fox_1_: no you don't, and i won't spoonfeed you |
| 21:41.44 | Fox_1_ | teledyn, i don't need debian's exim4 package |
| 21:41.52 | Zax | !ops Zugschlus tryign to get attention by griefing |
| 21:41.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Zugschlus tryign to get attention by griefing |
| 21:42.04 | teledyn | Fox_1_: check the exim channel then |
| 21:42.19 | Zugschlus | teledyn: the exim channel is not goint to spoonfeed him as well |
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| 21:42.39 | Zax | Zugschlus: Quit being a jackass |
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| 21:42.43 | Zugschlus | .oO( geez, I can't type today ) |
| 21:42.58 | GoCooL | how do i find out if i'm using Debian Woody or Sarge? |
| 21:43.10 | Aerta | GoCooL: my uestion exactly |
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| 21:43.17 | Aerta | GoCooL: er question |
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| 21:43.26 | Fox_1_ | i think problem with ld |
| 21:43.30 | Fox_1_ | what is ld? |
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| 21:43.45 | Zugschlus | Fox_1_: if you do not know that, you shouldn't build an MtA from yource |
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| 21:43.47 | Zugschlus | source |
| 21:43.55 | Solet | whats the main gnome package called? |
| 21:44.05 | GoCooL | i thought uname -a would have something about it, but no luck |
| 21:44.12 | teun | GoCooL: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 21:44.31 | Fox_1_ | uh, it's a linker |
| 21:44.35 | Aerta | teun: thx |
| 21:44.37 | godmachine81 | teun: that doesnt tell the release, just testing, stable, or unstable |
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| 21:45.13 | GoCooL | teun, awesome, thanks! |
| 21:45.21 | Fox_1_ | so, ld couldn't find lperl library |
| 21:45.45 | Aerta | godmachine81: on my machine that I think is running stable it spits out '3.0', on my unstable machine it says 'testing/unstable' |
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| 21:45.59 | GoCooL | teun: i have 3.1, that's Sarge, isn't it? |
| 21:46.04 | teun | GoCooL: yes |
| 21:46.05 | godmachine81 | yes thats sarge |
| 21:46.13 | belkin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.28 | Klohunt | Is it easy to get the absolute newest version of Gnome on Sarge? Sorry if this is a bad question, im new :( |
| 21:46.34 | godmachine81 | belkin: #valknut |
| 21:46.36 | Solet | i have the boxed debian 1.0... the misrelease :) |
| 21:46.54 | belkin | godmachine81 whats that ? |
| 21:47.15 | novata_ | hi...i am trying to connect to my accesPoint wpa with no succes. Without authentication, there is no problem. But if i use wpa: iwconfig eth1 essid "redelokalwireles" key s:pass && ifup eth1 --->Failed to bring up eth1. |
| 21:47.17 | godmachine81 | dc++ for unix systems.. valknut is the newer version of dcgui |
| 21:47.44 | Shadowcat | why are we even talking about dc++ in here |
| 21:47.46 | Shadowcat | !warez |
| 21:47.47 | dpkg | it has been said that warez is what GNU/Linux people do not need to run their computers and talk about in mundane ubergeek parties. http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?id=275 or http://www.blerp.org/warez/ |
| 21:48.05 | godmachine81 | Shadowcat: he asked and i sent him to #valknut |
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| 21:49.42 | flag | hello, i am getting "Unable to find swap-space signature" on boot.. but swap seems to work normaly.. should i worry about that thing ? |
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| 21:50.23 | Fox_1_ | when we write the library name, from where compiler gets the library for that name? |
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| 21:51.31 | petemc | Fox_1_: can you give even one compelling reason for you not using the debian exim packages? |
| 21:52.05 | zinx | petemc: maybe he wants an optimized version so he can learn about lunix and make his mail go faster |
| 21:52.22 | petemc | zinx: ah, theres always that... |
| 21:52.26 | teledyn | petemc: no, he can't. i asked him 10 m ago and he blew me off |
| 21:52.38 | teledyn | petemc: he just wants to annoy us |
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| 21:53.08 | Klohunt | Is upgrading to the newest Gnome very complicated? |
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| 21:54.09 | unix_infidel | Klohunt: usually no, debian is infamous for seamless upgrades. |
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| 21:54.29 | godmachine81 | Klohunt: when i went from 2.12 to 2.14 it broke my gnome customizations under certain users.. i got it fixed.. but it never done that until 2.14.. |
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| 21:54.42 | GoCooL | I'm trying to dual-head my Debian setup, my video card in Radeon X300, do i _have_ to have 2 video cards to be able to do this? |
| 21:54.44 | unix_infidel | although, NEWEST gnome isnt included in te stable release and probably isnt stable nor seamless yet, nor supported here iirc. |
| 21:54.55 | unix_infidel | GoCooL: nope, either a dvi adapter. |
| 21:55.01 | Xgates | anyone running dvd::rip might be able to tell me what's up with these errors? ----> http://pastebin.com/677715 |
| 21:55.01 | unix_infidel | or a vga splitter. |
| 21:55.26 | unix_infidel | GoCooL: usually if you dont care about the video performance for gaming on the second monitor, just buy an el cheapo pci video card. |
| 21:55.49 | Tchiak | mi muyoi amore el taco! |
| 21:56.01 | Klohunt | unix_infidel: I see, thanks |
| 21:56.07 | Klohunt | godmachine81, ditto :D |
| 21:56.09 | Tchiak | i want to hurt PCI-E |
| 21:56.12 | Tchiak | and whoever came up with it |
| 21:56.25 | godmachine81 | Xgates: looks like your dvd stuff isnt all installed |
| 21:56.30 | Solet | Tchiak: amen |
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| 21:56.36 | GoCooL | unix_infidel: yeah, but i heard some video cards, probably Radeon, are capable of dual heading on the sigle card, is that true? |
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| 21:56.48 | Tchiak | i just buy a nice Geforce 6200 AGP, then when i need to upgrade my board i can only find 1 freakin motherboard at the local store that still has AGP slot |
| 21:57.05 | Tchiak | and i'm not shilling out another 300 bucks for a PCI-E video card when i have a perfectly good one here |
| 21:57.25 | Solet | Tchiak sell the agp card and board on ebay and buy new |
| 21:57.25 | godmachine81 | Klohunt: did 2.14 break your gnome user customizations too? |
| 21:57.30 | GoCooL | the problem is i;m using a Think pad notebook |
| 21:57.36 | Shadowcat | Tchiak: your problem is your own ignorance |
| 21:57.39 | Shadowcat | not pci-e |
| 21:57.39 | Solet | there's lots of people still clinging to agp out there |
| 21:57.40 | unix_infidel | GoCooL: so what's the problem. |
| 21:57.45 | Shadowcat | pci-e has been out for at least two years now |
| 21:57.53 | unix_infidel | Shadowcat: because its CHEAPER? |
| 21:58.08 | Tchiak | yeah but it's getting too damned popular.. :P |
| 21:58.18 | Shadowcat | unix_infidel: being cheaper won't help if it doesn't run anywhere |
| 21:58.18 | Tchiak | 2 years ago it was all AGP Rage |
| 21:58.20 | Solet | i'm still on agp cause i'm fuckin broke |
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| 21:58.34 | Tchiak | if i had the money i would go PCI-E :P |
| 21:58.35 | unix_infidel | agp is still super cheap. |
| 21:58.36 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 21:58.44 | GoCooL | unix_infidel: well, 1. i'm not sure about it, 2. my kernel version 2.4 does not even have the ATI driver for it |
| 21:58.45 | unix_infidel | most budget mobo's dont come with pci-e |
| 21:58.45 | Shadowcat | there isn't a price premium on pci-e cards anymore |
| 21:58.49 | miki | hey, i enabled PPPoA as module inside kernel, but i dont know how to activate/mount it, im using 2.6.16.9 kernel and pppoatm3 is loaded automatically(its not kernel module driver) |
| 21:58.52 | Fox_1_ | how to install perl library? |
| 21:58.52 | Shadowcat | actually most budget mobos do |
| 21:58.53 | Tchiak | buying a video card for me is generally a 2 year commitment before upgrading again |
| 21:59.09 | Tchiak | i went for a Geforce ti 4200 to a Geforce 6200 |
| 21:59.11 | Tchiak | :P |
| 21:59.11 | unix_infidel | GoCooL: i'd just get a second pci video card if your not doing video intensive work and just want the functional advantage of dual head. |
| 21:59.18 | Tchiak | and before that it was a voodoo3 |
| 21:59.34 | Solet | Tchiak: i still have a nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 |
| 21:59.39 | miki | overlock it and unlock if its right model |
| 21:59.41 | Tchiak | though i need to find a sempron proc that does HT |
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| 21:59.53 | miki | 6200 goes to 6600 easily |
| 21:59.53 | godmachine81 | i dont know if what i have is worth a shit or not but it gets the job done.. so its fine to me.. i have a Nvidia GeForce FX 5500 PCI |
| 22:00.15 | Tchiak | miki.. this one is the latter GPU core.. |
| 22:00.21 | Tchiak | one that is nasty about nay kind of overclocking |
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| 22:00.25 | Solet | godmachine81: makes my card look like a fuckin magnadoodle |
| 22:00.34 | godmachine81 | really? |
| 22:00.35 | Tchiak | the 5200 sucked ass |
| 22:00.40 | miki | afaik u can ebanble 4 extra pipelines |
| 22:00.44 | Tchiak | i mean it was worse than my geforce 4 |
| 22:00.44 | miki | enable* |
| 22:00.49 | godmachine81 | shit i figured it was pretty shitty.. hence it came from wally world |
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| 22:01.07 | Tchiak | miki: i checked that on mine.. i have the later card where the pipelines don't exist at all |
| 22:01.09 | miki | but u must have good model, and i dunno wich ones can have extra pipes enabled |
| 22:01.10 | Tchiak | those extra 4 i mean |
| 22:01.24 | miki | ahh, crappy |
| 22:01.36 | miki | u can still overclock it tho |
| 22:01.41 | Klohunt | What kernel version comes default with etch? |
| 22:01.48 | warreng | i want a subversion 1.3 backport :( |
| 22:01.57 | godmachine81 | Klohunt: shhhh that'll get you shanked in here |
| 22:01.57 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 22:01.59 | miki | afaik 6200 got exacly same GPU as 6600GT so it can go to 400-500 probably |
| 22:02.04 | miki | mhz |
| 22:02.13 | chealer | Klohunt: 2.6.15 |
| 22:02.15 | godmachine81 | right now its 2.6.16-1 KLo |
| 22:02.17 | Klohunt | godmachine81: lol.. Oops |
| 22:02.19 | Tchiak | miki.. overclocking a later 6200(the one i have) make sit very unstable even by a few mhz |
| 22:02.24 | Klohunt | ah very nice :D |
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| 22:02.43 | Klohunt | Its the only one that seems to let me use forcedeth.c |
| 22:02.52 | miki | Tchiak: u bought some crappy 6200 :) either some TC or smth or crappy manufacturer |
| 22:03.01 | Tchiak | miki BFG |
| 22:03.17 | miki | then it should work well... decent brand |
| 22:03.28 | Tchiak | it's not a matter of the brand but the limitiations of the card |
| 22:03.40 | teledyn | what happens when you overclock a video card? |
| 22:03.45 | Tchiak | the later revision of the nvidia GPU made it nearly impossible to overclock |
| 22:04.07 | miki | yes, but few companies care about their cards... u could also look for specific core model or smth on noname/crap brand card and u would get unlockable for same price |
| 22:04.24 | teledyn | only for game performance? |
| 22:04.25 | Tchiak | teledyn, you can get high frame rates and better quailty out of games.. but at the risk of voiding your warranty and blowing up your card... unless you know what your doing and know how to supply efficient cooling.. do not do it |
| 22:04.27 | Tchiak | ever |
| 22:04.41 | miki | Tchiak: this sux, cuz some time ago 6200 was very very good card for OC |
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| 22:05.06 | teledyn | too bad i'm one of the 33% who gets serious motion-sickness from 3d games |
| 22:05.28 | Tchiak | overclocking your GPU does almost nothing in a 2D environment |
| 22:05.41 | Tchiak | though with MS Vista it might be useful |
| 22:05.43 | tmg1|pasttense | teledyn: aren't some 3d games better than others though? |
| 22:05.49 | miki | i bought 6600GT and im unhappy cuz for half of it price or even less i could get 6200 and overclock it wich would be like 20% slowe only |
| 22:05.54 | tmg1|pasttense | ie wolfenstein3d makes me really sick but quake doesn't seem to quite so much |
| 22:05.57 | miki | not economic buy by me |
| 22:06.14 | tmg1|pasttense | prboom seems to get me sick but doom doesn't quite so much |
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| 22:06.32 | phonics | godmachine81, testing is 2.6.16 now? Have they upgraded all the drivers on testig too? |
| 22:06.45 | miki | dude, overclocking vid card applies almost only to 3d envioment, 99% of that evnvioment are games |
| 22:06.46 | novata_ | sdf |
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| 22:06.53 | teledyn | tmg1|pasttense: i can tolerate that mac game stegasourous or whatever it is for a while. tribe give me a severe migraine in about 20s which lasts for 4 hours |
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| 22:08.00 | miki | afaik new bill gates puppet, vidows vista will have 3d desktop and icons |
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| 22:08.34 | miki | what a waste of money :O |
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| 22:09.46 | Thanatermesis | stew aparently my x-login-manager don't launch the scripts to are on /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ , because is the x-login-manager who launch it, yes ? |
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| 22:10.38 | nocturnal | is pwd in /bin/pwd on debian? i don't have a debian system available but i need to know |
| 22:10.47 | miki | hey, is there something like norton commander for debian? |
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| 22:11.17 | teledyn | nocturnal: yes |
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| 22:11.35 | godmachine81 | phonics: apparently etch did get 2.6.16-1 and later on their were issues with audio after it had done been moved over into testing.. so now they removed it and its back at 2.6.15-8 i think |
| 22:11.39 | xtni | anyone here use grsecurity? |
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| 22:11.51 | ne78 | Now that xorg 7 is in sid, is there a easy way to try xgl on sid ? |
| 22:11.55 | opnsrc | I Hey all |
| 22:12.02 | foo | Hmm, top is not showing me all the processes for some reason. Any ideas? It doesn't show the streamTranscoder process. hmm. |
| 22:12.04 | Solet | whats the command to show running kernel? |
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| 22:12.14 | opnsrc | When I tried to upgrade everything, it gave me an error with a file called status |
| 22:12.21 | opnsrc | so I figure I'll delete that file. Deleted it and now it says "E: Could not open file /var/lib/dpkg/status - open (2 No such file or directory)E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." |
| 22:12.25 | miki | Solet: uname -r |
| 22:12.30 | opnsrc | What should I re-install to fix it? |
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| 22:12.50 | opnsrc | (at first it said there were broken packages |
| 22:12.57 | epsilon | miki: Novell AKA Suse already implemented 3D-desktop for linux |
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| 22:13.21 | Solet | epsilon!!!! no shit!!!!?????? |
| 22:13.40 | Solet | what display manager? |
| 22:13.41 | epsilon | I have a video from demonstration |
| 22:13.45 | miki | epsilon: Norton Commander is not 3d envioment, its something like textbox file manager |
| 22:14.30 | epsilon | miki |
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| 22:15.25 | epsilon | miki: was talking about this WIndows Vista stuff... if you want norton commander for debian, take a look at midnight commander |
| 22:15.38 | miki | epsilon: ahh, sorry then |
| 22:15.51 | jayeola | yah, apt-get -y install mc |
| 22:15.56 | jayeola | mc is rather good |
| 22:16.01 | miki | epsilon: btw, no way i will install anything like that, it would just slow everything down |
| 22:16.21 | miki | 3d envioment* |
| 22:16.37 | epsilon | the bad thing about midnight commander is, I pften mistype "mv" as "mc" |
| 22:16.37 | jayeola | heh |
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| 22:17.18 | opnsrc | Does anyone know how I can fix this? |
| 22:18.19 | epsilon | opnsrc: you are root and no other process such as apt-get or dpkg is running? |
| 22:18.41 | opnsrc | well, xchat is running and I am root only in the temrinal |
| 22:18.48 | opnsrc | otherwise I'm logged in as opnsrc |
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| 22:19.01 | Solet | miki do you know where to get the suse that has the 3d desktop? and how many cd's it takes? (or if it has netinstall) |
| 22:19.05 | ILF | i have a drive in my /etc/fstab, which isn't mounted on boot, yet can be mounted when logged in because it's in there o_O |
| 22:20.45 | epsilon | Solet: I don't know when it's finished for production, I only know of the presentation |
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| 22:21.08 | hachre | hi |
| 22:21.44 | epsilon | possible they are working with sun, there's similar 3d-desktop java-project |
| 22:21.45 | opnsrc | Does anyone have a clue how to fix it? |
| 22:21.50 | opnsrc | can't I reinstall something? |
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| 22:21.58 | Solet | looking glass for teh win |
| 22:21.59 | opnsrc | I mean, something needs to be re - installable to fix it |
| 22:22.21 | hachre | how do i reconfigure my networking settings? is there something like dpkg-reconfigure networking or similar? |
| 22:22.26 | Solet | ok so there isnt currently an os with a 3d desktop |
| 22:23.06 | epsilon | but 3d desktop will come in next years |
| 22:23.08 | miki | epsilon: no idea, but i dont care :) |
| 22:23.20 | miki | i mean Solet, not epsilon |
| 22:24.28 | miki | anyway, whats the point of 3d envioment? i heared that only multi-monitor systems will get some benefit |
| 22:24.31 | epsilon | Next thing we need is a 3D-display/projection hardware :-D |
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| 22:24.44 | miki | althro u can get same benefit from multi 2d monitor |
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| 22:26.21 | miki | im wodering it it will support those 3dglasses vfrx or smth |
| 22:26.24 | Solet | miki: 3d environment just looks bad ass |
| 22:26.35 | miki | everything they show looks badass |
| 22:26.37 | miki | marketing |
| 22:26.42 | Solet | remember the screensaver back in woody where you flew through your filesystem and it was galexy like |
| 22:26.55 | Solet | that was bad ass |
| 22:26.59 | Solet | and it was just a screensaver |
| 22:27.08 | Solet | i want a file browser like that |
| 22:27.39 | miki | i like pacman |
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| 22:28.12 | miki | kde pacman screensaver is cool, they could do other games too |
| 22:28.35 | miki | mario, lemmings etc |
| 22:30.13 | miki | anyway, i got problem to solve |
| 22:31.12 | miki | on kernel 2.6.16.9 i installed PPPoATM as module, but i dont know how to mount/install it, modprobe wont work and modinfo cant find pppoa/pppoatm |
| 22:31.18 | opnsrc | How do I rename status-old to status |
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| 22:31.26 | opnsrc | Do I just type rename status-old status |
| 22:31.35 | slinn____ | opnsrc: mv status-old status or rename status-old status |
| 22:32.31 | opnsrc | it gives me an error |
| 22:32.32 | opnsrc | let me try mv |
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| 22:33.42 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 22:33.43 | opnsrc | it worked |
| 22:34.14 | opnsrc | Now it says Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 22:34.17 | opnsrc | (basically what it said before0 |
| 22:34.21 | opnsrc | ) |
| 22:34.23 | opnsrc | How do I fix that |
| 22:34.29 | earthian | is there any software for debian to monitor server connection uptime with the internet |
| 22:34.32 | earthian | and speed ^ |
| 22:34.45 | opnsrc | somewhere I read I need to change the Cache-Limit higher in apt.conf but I see no Cache-Limit in apt.conf |
| 22:34.51 | Loof | Anyone know if there is a newer debian package of DVD::Rip around? I've had trouble getting all of the dependencies sorted out to install it from source. |
| 22:34.58 | azeem | opnsrc: add the option |
| 22:35.12 | azeem | opnsrc: google for it, it's a frequent issue |
| 22:35.14 | Loof | Or, is there something similar but easier/better? |
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| 22:35.47 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 22:36.03 | opnsrc | just add it to the end of the file? |
| 22:36.52 | opnsrc | seems to work |
| 22:36.53 | opnsrc | thanks |
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| 22:37.26 | opnsrc | I hope I don't get this problem again. is "42123456" a high enough limit |
| 22:38.24 | opnsrc | Well, seems so. Thanks |
| 22:38.53 | bbrazil | Loof: assuming that's a perl package - there's a tool to package CPAN stuff |
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| 22:39.15 | bkudria | now that xorg 7.0 is in sid, maybe dpkg should be updated about when xgl will be in? |
| 22:39.39 | xtni | narf |
| 22:39.54 | xtni | !narf |
| 22:39.54 | dpkg | narf are you pondering what I'm pondering? ZORT! |
| 22:40.07 | bkudria | ... |
| 22:40.09 | Solet | omfg its pinky |
| 22:40.26 | mbishop | how do I get back to the regular X cursor? stupid gnome installed some theme |
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| 22:40.36 | xtni | anyone here use grsecurity? |
| 22:40.39 | bkudria | i don't want to install some scary ubuntu packages... |
| 22:40.52 | bkudria | mbishop: using kde? |
| 22:40.56 | mbishop | heh |
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| 22:41.16 | bkudria | mbishop: i think try looking in ~/.icons |
| 22:42.57 | nicoco | hi ! in a console, is there a way to "scroll up" ? |
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| 22:43.11 | liable | shift pageup |
| 22:43.41 | miki | on kernel 2.6.16.9 i installed PPPoATM as module, but i dont know how to mount/install it, modprobe wont work and modinfo cant find pppoa/pppoatm |
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| 22:44.20 | nicoco | doesn't work... |
| 22:44.29 | che4p_ | nicoco: or you just use your mouse wheel (if you're in x) |
| 22:44.37 | miki | doesen't care :O |
| 22:44.54 | bkudria | miki: do a modprobe -l | grep ppp ? |
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| 22:45.28 | miki | will do, brb |
| 22:45.47 | nicoco | no i mean in a REAL console (ctrl+alt+F2 for instance) |
| 22:46.24 | nicoco | is it possible ? |
| 22:46.39 | Dominic | Does anybody know why memcached defaults to running as root and not a non-privileged user? |
| 22:46.42 | che4p_ | nicoco: like said <liable> shift pageup |
| 22:47.07 | ravsi | so I have a sata controller that has gone in a older machine, debian installer picks it up and is able to partion it and do all sorts of install majik but , I can't seem to get it to install the boot record |
| 22:47.39 | bkudria | nicoco: try maybe hitting scroll-lock or shift+scroll-lock |
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| 22:50.18 | sanmarcos | !autofs |
| 22:50.18 | dpkg | it has been said that autofs is a kernel-based automounter for Linux, or silly to use 5 minutes as a default timeout for unmounting, or see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127, or a hackish p.o.s |
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| 22:50.54 | BlackBishop | do debian sarge's packages still get updated ? |
| 22:51.05 | BlackBishop | I mean .. if they have firefox 1.0.2 |
| 22:51.23 | BlackBishop | and they consider that 1.0.3 is stable .. would they update in the repository ? |
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| 22:51.38 | earthian | ntop.org <--- i want that software for my debian |
| 22:51.46 | FabParma | hi |
| 22:51.53 | earthian | however i do not see the link where to download it ;/ |
| 22:52.41 | zinx | earthian: uhm, why not use apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/whatever your favorite package manager is |
| 22:53.02 | earthian | hmm |
| 22:53.08 | chealer | BlackBishop: who would consider that 1.0.3 would be stable? |
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| 22:53.42 | BlackBishop | I was just asking .. |
| 22:53.43 | FabParma | how retrive the unstable pacage to search it by apt? |
| 22:53.51 | BlackBishop | would they update or not ? |
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| 22:54.06 | BlackBishop | I'm not refering to firefox ! .. I was refering to packages in general |
| 22:54.59 | FabParma | how retrive list of pacages to search it by apt? |
| 22:55.02 | chealer | BlackBishop: in general, packages in stable get updated if there are updates meeting the criteria for a stable update |
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| 22:55.11 | gloin | FabParma: apt-cache search packagename |
| 22:55.17 | ravsi | anyone know about sata drives and not being able to get the master boot record written? |
| 22:55.22 | BlackBishop | so they do get updated :) |
| 22:55.31 | BlackBishop | another question |
| 22:55.37 | chealer | BlackBishop: sometimes, yes |
| 22:55.45 | BlackBishop | could I install it on a external hdd ? |
| 22:55.53 | BlackBishop | I mean .. I have a usb hdd .. |
| 22:56.04 | BlackBishop | it's a usb - ide adapter .. |
| 22:57.19 | FabParma | gloin, i know this, but normally by apt-setup i get only the stables one, I would like the unstable as well, thank you |
| 22:57.33 | gloin | FabParma: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:57.40 | gloin | ergh, it's Sunday, isn't it? |
| 22:57.53 | jayeola | how does one reconfigure the date? dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 22:58.11 | gloin | jayeola: date nnnnnnnn |
| 22:58.23 | jayeola | thanks |
| 22:58.46 | jayeola | date Mon Apr 24 00:50:10 BST 2006 for example |
| 22:58.48 | jayeola | ? |
| 22:59.10 | gloin | you might want to read the manpage - so I don't =] |
| 22:59.24 | jayeola | yah. ok |
| 22:59.53 | mbishop | it's date yyyymmddhhmm I think |
| 22:59.55 | mbishop | but yeah read the manpage |
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| 23:00.27 | BlackBishop | anyone ? |
| 23:00.31 | FabParma | gloin, look here. this is all that i have: deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian/ stable main |
| 23:00.31 | FabParma | deb-src http://debian.fastweb.it/debian/ stable main |
| 23:00.31 | FabParma | deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main |
| 23:00.31 | FabParma | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 23:00.31 | FabParma | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
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| 23:00.45 | BlackBishop | could I install debian on a external hdd ? |
| 23:00.46 | gloin | lol |
| 23:00.47 | plbgnr | jayeola: ntpdate - The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers |
| 23:00.59 | gloin | guess I can't help fabparma there =] |
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| 23:03.13 | chealer | BlackBishop: most likely |
| 23:03.32 | Jwarrier | type /join #hks |
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| 23:03.59 | gloin | !sundays |
| 23:04.06 | gloin | hrm |
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| 23:04.10 | gloin | dpkg: tell me about sundays |
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| 23:04.21 | BlackBishop | :) |
| 23:04.27 | gloin | there was some dpkg entry on sundays, I forgot it |
| 23:04.48 | liable | Jwarrier: wtf are you doing? |
| 23:04.57 | Jwarrier | nothing |
| 23:05.18 | gloin | o rly? |
| 23:05.22 | Jwarrier | ya rly |
| 23:05.54 | mbishop | liable, I believe it's called spamming..:) |
| 23:05.58 | Jwarrier | lolz |
| 23:06.15 | liable | mbishop: heh, i believe you are right :) |
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| 23:10.39 | SimonRaven | @ops Jwarrier spamming |
| 23:10.41 | ravenbird | Hydroxide, azeem, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Jwarrier spamming |
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| 23:11.03 | SimonRaven | idjit |
| 23:11.07 | Loof | bbrazil: Yes, it's a perl package... but it has a -lot- of dependencies |
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| 23:11.40 | bbrazil | Loof: perl depends, or general depends? What about using malirat? |
| 23:11.57 | Loof | general dependencies... gtk2 stuff... dvd libraries |
| 23:12.08 | Loof | maybe 20-30 libraries all in all |
| 23:12.34 | bbrazil | Loof: eek, why does a dvd library need gtk? |
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| 23:14.31 | Loof | bbrazil: It's an application! |
| 23:14.37 | Loof | It's a dvd transcoder |
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| 23:15.16 | Loof | Basically takes a DVD and can either reduce it for burning on 4G or turns it into divx files |
| 23:15.16 | Loof | (or theora, I think) |
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| 23:15.35 | Fox_1_ | my smtp server (exim4) write all mail in /home/username/Maildir/new, but when mail client want to get mail it move email to /home/username/Maildir/cur and mail client write that "...can not read mail - it's done." how to resolve this problem?? |
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| 23:16.50 | bbrazil | Loof: ah right. I'd use the malirat repoisotry then, I *think* it has that app |
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| 23:19.01 | _ericb | hi all |
| 23:19.16 | Loof | What's the malirat repository? :) |
| 23:19.23 | _ericb | I just want to know your opinion.. I tough about 2 solutions for partitionning : leaving /tmp on / sor data are moved to /tmp more quickly, or, put /tmp on a 10k rpm raid 0 array, on a separate bus.. what are your comments ? some forums recommends putting /tmp on fast drives, other recommands leaving /tmp in / |
| 23:19.26 | Mario_Segura_S | hi, |
| 23:19.27 | Loof | Actually, is there some other app that does the same thing? |
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| 23:19.39 | Loof | Anything that anyone would recommend, basically. |
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| 23:20.39 | Mario_Segura_S | when i start gnome always the volume control starts muted |
| 23:20.53 | Mario_Segura_S | y haven't find any documentation about this issue |
| 23:21.12 | Mario_Segura_S | i saved my session with un-muted volume but when restarting i continues muted |
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| 23:21.54 | sinizzl | hello |
| 23:22.03 | Mario_Segura_S | i used gnome 2.14, kernel2.6.15.6, soundcard intel |
| 23:22.11 | sinizzl | i get en error "no core keyboard device specified" when trying to start X |
| 23:22.17 | Loof | ??malirat |
| 23:22.28 | Fox_1_ | my smtp server (exim4) write all mail in /home/username/Maildir/new, but when mail client want to get mail it move email to /home/username/Maildir/cur and mail client write that "...can not read mail - it's done." how to resolve this problem?? |
| 23:24.10 | _ericb | and another question.. on debian by default is /tmp cleaned at startup/shutdown ?? or.. is it cleaned at some times ? |
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| 23:26.37 | warreng | is "simple sid backport" the best way to get subversion 1.3 onto a sarge install? (even though 1.3 is available in the testing branch) |
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| 23:29.14 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 23:29.36 | Solet | hey in gnome my screen is shifted about 50px to the right.... i could manually correct it, but then when i went back to windows (its a multiboot) i'd have to change it every time |
| 23:29.41 | Fox_1_ | hdfej dltjyu w3bklry |
| 23:29.42 | Fox_1_ | qwrykejhy |
| 23:29.45 | Solet | is there anywhere where i can correct its positioning? |
| 23:29.49 | ribnitz | Is there a howto to add an additional locale (etc) to X? |
| 23:30.32 | chealer | warreng: most likely |
| 23:30.57 | chealer | ribnitz: what do you mean by adding a locale to X? |
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| 23:31.48 | ribnitz | chealer: I currently have a ferman keyboard, and everything is set so eit works fine. Now I need a way to input russian characters. |
| 23:32.14 | douglas_om | is it hard to install XGL on Debian? Which is the best documentation? |
| 23:32.21 | ribnitz | chealer: ie. a cyrillic font, and a way to switch from german layout to russian. |
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| 23:33.17 | ribnitz | And hopefully an openoffixce which then recognised cyrillic chatacters. |
| 23:33.20 | chealer | douglas_om: if you want XGL, you'll probably consider it |
| 23:33.25 | chealer | hard |
| 23:34.22 | chealer | ribnitz: sorry, I don't know about changing X keyboard layout "on the fly" |
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| 23:35.00 | _ericb | just as an indicator.. anyone could give the approximate time it would take to configure dual monitor on an nvidia framebuffer with debian for an average user ? |
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| 23:35.43 | douglas_om | chealer: are there .deb's available? |
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| 23:36.23 | Chty | hello. where can I find netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz ? |
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| 23:36.35 | douglas_om | chealer: i'm using etch |
| 23:36.40 | chealer | douglas_om: it seems there are, but Google would know better |
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| 23:37.26 | Solet | does anyone know how i can fix the centering of gnome on my monitor? |
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| 23:37.48 | douglas_om | chealer: i found this: http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm but i was expecting there was something easier |
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| 23:38.59 | chealer | douglas_om: I really don't know about XGL. I only warned you that if you're looking for XGL, you'll most likely find it hard to install it on Debian |
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| 23:41.19 | SinnerG | ok, ubuntu failed to help me, lets try it here ;p |
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| 23:41.39 | unix_infidel | lol, what a way to start. |
| 23:41.42 | SinnerG | I tried to install ubuntu and all is well EXCEPT when it gets to the lilo/grub installing it returns with a fatal |
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| 23:41.55 | chealer | SinnerG: ask #ubuntu |
| 23:41.59 | SinnerG | did |
| 23:42.02 | SinnerG | 3 times.. |
| 23:42.07 | unix_infidel | this is #debian |
| 23:42.15 | SinnerG | its a regular Q |
| 23:42.21 | Chty | where can I find netboot/debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz ? |
| 23:42.22 | SinnerG | what can cause lilo/grub to fail installing.. |
| 23:42.40 | zumbi | what kind of bot is dpkg ? |
| 23:43.08 | chealer | SinnerG: this is a Debian support channel. if you have an issue with Ubuntu, this isn't the place to ask |
| 23:43.17 | chealer | dpkg: what are you? |
| 23:43.20 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
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| 23:43.52 | SinnerG | ok, ignore the ubuntu part and just take the lilo/grub Q |
| 23:43.52 | Chty | Can somebody help me ? |
| 23:43.59 | SinnerG | what can cause it to fail ? |
| 23:44.29 | chealer | SinnerG: this isn't #lilo nor #grub |
| 23:44.29 | stew | SinnerG: ask #ubuntu, if they don't know, try a ubuntu mailling list |
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| 23:44.56 | Chty | chealer, you perhaps ? |
| 23:44.59 | nn_school | I just sucesfually made a apache server |
| 23:45.14 | nn_school | Finally |
| 23:45.17 | chealer | Chty: why could I? just ask the channel |
| 23:45.39 | Chty | chealer, nobody answer me :-( |
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| 23:46.13 | nn_school | aney one wan't the latest copy of knoppix.iso ?? |
| 23:46.23 | chealer | Chty: you asked once, 3 minutes ago. if you think no one will answer you, it's better to repeat than asking someone in particular |
| 23:46.40 | Chty | chealer, ok ok . |
| 23:46.40 | zinx | nn_school: if anyone does, they can download it from one of the official mirrors. |
| 23:46.58 | cafuego | nn_school: You got the serial for it? |
| 23:47.09 | nn_school | well i want to test my speed |
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| 23:48.02 | nn_school | Well i will just give the aderss aney way |
| 23:48.09 | stew | Chty: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot |
| 23:48.56 | nn_school | http://70.16.146.232:5190/k.iso |
| 23:49.26 | Chty | stew, oh thanks. I dont understand why it isnt written in the docuementation http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en |
| 23:49.47 | ribnitz | I am getting it. my downstream is 3 MBit/s. |
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| 23:50.40 | ribnitz | nn_school: 89 KBytes/sec. |
| 23:50.54 | nn_school | great! |
| 23:51.01 | nn_school | thanks |
| 23:51.14 | ribnitz | (and on, I dont wait slighlty over 2 hrs to get it. :) |
| 23:51.38 | nn_school | ok |
| 23:51.39 | ribnitz | nn_school: 0% [ ] 2,745,760 89.32K/s ETA 2:13:27 |
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| 23:52.33 | Aerta | is it still possible to use apt to install packages from woody? |
| 23:52.52 | ribnitz | Aerta: if you have your sources set accordingly, why not? |
| 23:53.00 | Aerta | I have 'deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib' in my sources.list |
| 23:53.11 | jair | it is a room of the IRC where people discuss about scripts with bash? |
| 23:53.20 | ribnitz | !room |
| 23:53.20 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 23:53.36 | bbrazil | Aerta: yes, although security support is only going to be there for another month or so |
| 23:53.37 | nn_school | i also found an intresting one called knoppixgames |
| 23:53.42 | jair | ok a channel :) |
| 23:53.49 | bbrazil | jair: #bash oddly |
| 23:53.57 | jair | bbrazil, thank you |
| 23:53.58 | nn_school | http://70.16.146.232:5190/kg.iso |
| 23:54.26 | Aerta | anybody know what is wrong with above uri? |
| 23:55.12 | nn_school | what it erred |
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| 23:55.15 | nn_school | ?? |
| 23:55.16 | h3xis | 5190 is aim's port isnt it? |
| 23:55.33 | nn_school | hu?? |
| 23:55.53 | ribnitz | h3xis: its unprivileged, can be pretty much anything. |
| 23:56.00 | h3xis | ah, cool |
| 23:56.15 | nn_school | well it was the onily one that wosent filtered on verizon home dsl |
| 23:56.30 | jair | I am trying to create an script in bash that can run the command apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade. |
| 23:56.51 | jair | but I do not think I have the apt-get update defined as a variable ?? |
| 23:56.55 | ribnitz | jair: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 23:57.01 | h3xis | hmm can anyone tell me what kacpid is and why the hell it's at 99% cpu usage? |
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| 23:57.47 | jair | ribnitz, ok let me try that this is how I have it right now:http://pastebin.com/677913' |
| 23:57.54 | jair | ribnitz, ok let me try that this is how I have it right now:http://pastebin.com/677913 |
| 23:58.18 | Aerta | h3xis: I think acp is a power management thingy of some sort, and its at 99% cpu because it has some horrible bug (just guessing :) |
| 23:58.39 | h3xis | aerta, is it safe to kill it's pid? |
| 23:58.47 | h3xis | i dont even use apm |
| 23:58.53 | h3xis | atleast not that i know of |
| 23:59.20 | ribnitz | h3xis: A process at 99% cpu is hung, in most cases. and not well written. |
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| 23:59.43 | h3xis | alright |
| 23:59.50 | Aerta | h3xis: I don't know for sure |
| 23:59.57 | h3xis | i'll see what happens when i do |
