| 00:00.05 | thingfish | abrotman: I installed firefox for them. but I can only preach so much. |
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| 00:00.57 | _rene_ | Mask: *this* is often a bad idea ;) |
| 00:01.17 | _rene_ | e.g. without following suggests you don't have help in OOo ;) |
| 00:01.20 | _rene_ | (just an example) |
| 00:01.53 | ceplma | _rene_: I always thought that OOo help should be recommended. |
| 00:02.58 | thingfish | aack openoffice-gtk-gnome I mean. |
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| 00:03.14 | _rene_ | ceplma: maybe, now that the policy is that recommends: against non-existing stuff isn't rc, I might do it. will think about it |
| 00:03.31 | _rene_ | ceplma: those suggests are autogenerated |
| 00:03.41 | _rene_ | ceplma: and so you also have suggests on non-existing stuff ;-) |
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| 00:04.27 | ceplma | _rene_: cool -- changing OOo policy via IRC! Wov! |
| 00:04.42 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, I just installed woody in a 486 DX2-66Mhz 16M ram and 340M hdd, what can I use it for? web server, firewall, etc ? |
| 00:04.48 | _rene_ | ceplma: I said I'll *think* about it ;-) |
| 00:04.56 | ceplma | k |
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| 00:05.07 | ceplma | :) |
| 00:05.10 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: First thing first, upgrade to sarge |
| 00:05.29 | _rene_ | ceplma: anyway, when we are talking about that, what'd be your optionion on dictionaries/thesauri/hyphenation patterns? |
| 00:05.33 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, why? |
| 00:05.43 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: woody is ooooold. No software available. |
| 00:05.47 | Ronin | pipeline: will it run on 16m of ram? |
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| 00:05.55 | pipeline | Ronin: of course |
| 00:05.58 | pipeline | Ronin: installer won't work |
| 00:06.00 | pipeline | Ronin: but it runs :P |
| 00:06.06 | pipeline | Ronin: well, runs as well as woody does, anyway ;) |
| 00:06.08 | Ronin | heh :) |
| 00:06.14 | cheal | pipeline: I'm not sure Sarge will run/install on 16 MB RAM |
| 00:06.24 | pipeline | cheal: It definitely won't install :P |
| 00:06.28 | maher | SonnyBurnett: don't switch kernels without checking the new one will work in small ram |
| 00:06.31 | ceplma | _rene_: I would recommend the language environment which would depend (recommend?) all these. |
| 00:06.37 | ceplma | ... (let me think) ... |
| 00:06.37 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, yeah thats what I'm wondering, will sarge run with 16M of ram, and 340M of hard disk will be enough? |
| 00:06.46 | zinx | sarge won't install with 16mb of ram |
| 00:06.48 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: It should be, if you mount /var/cache/apt over nfs :P |
| 00:06.59 | zinx | you'll either need to add swap before you get far in the installer |
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| 00:07.03 | zinx | or add more ram until it's installed |
| 00:07.13 | pipeline | zinx: He doesn't have to install, just upgrade from woody |
| 00:07.13 | Ronin | SonnyBurnett: you have no simms laying around i guess? |
| 00:07.15 | SonnyBurnett | I've tried, installing sarge... and it didnt run |
| 00:07.28 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: Installing sarge definitely won't work. Installer requires 32 or 64 or something |
| 00:07.34 | zinx | but for a 16MB machine with a 340MB hard drive... there are probably other distros that would be better suited to it |
| 00:07.35 | thingfish | and I thought my p4 prescott was behind the times. |
| 00:07.43 | zinx | dpkg/apt are resource hogs |
| 00:07.55 | thingfish | oh come on |
| 00:08.01 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: If you know what kind of memory it takes, and you're willing to pay S&H, I'd be glad to send you some |
| 00:08.10 | zinx | (not so much the hard drive, but they eat the CPU/ram when they're running) |
| 00:08.12 | thingfish | well I suppose anything is, if you only have 16MB ram. |
| 00:08.33 | ceplma | _rene_: no, you should really have (language version) of help -- only really weirdoes use OOo without help, and you should probably have spellchecker; on the other hand -- thesaurus and translation and stuff like that should be optional (i.e., suggested). |
| 00:08.40 | thingfish | you know, new computers are cheap these days. |
| 00:08.41 | ceplma | _rene_: what do you think? |
| 00:09.10 | zinx | pipeline: my guess is 72 or 30 pin EDO |
| 00:09.14 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, I remember you promised me that 2 weeks ago.... |
| 00:09.19 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: You never followed up. |
| 00:09.29 | zinx | pipeline: which is more expensive than the best DDR/RD ram |
| 00:09.30 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: I make that offer to everyone. NEver takers :p |
| 00:09.42 | pipeline | zinx: I have buckets and crates of old memory sitting around. |
| 00:09.48 | zinx | pipeline: ah |
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| 00:10.04 | zinx | pipeline: that's different then ;) |
| 00:10.05 | Ronin | pipeline: time for a bonfire then ;) |
| 00:10.27 | _rene_ | ceplma: will think about that |
| 00:10.30 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, well my motherboard has 4 slots for small SIMMs and 4 for bigger SIMMs, well I have 4 big SIMMs of 4M each |
| 00:10.34 | ceplma | _rene_: (except, of course, that help is still in contrib :-( ) |
| 00:11.11 | _rene_ | ceplma: it isn't |
| 00:11.27 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, what kind of simms do you have? |
| 00:11.45 | ceplma | _rene_: sorry, it isn't anymore, thanks. |
| 00:11.45 | zinx | yay 72 AND 30 pin :D |
| 00:11.48 | cheal | _rene_: BTW, when did the policy on unsatisfiable recommends change? |
| 00:11.58 | _rene_ | but even then, thankfully Recommends: on contrib is allowed.. |
| 00:12.02 | _rene_ | cheal: ask the RMs |
| 00:12.14 | cheal | _rene_: ...OK |
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| 00:12.45 | dvs | howdy |
| 00:12.53 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: Just about everything. |
| 00:13.01 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: Gold or tin leads? |
| 00:13.01 | pilgrim | Anyone know what port 800 is? It's open for some reason on my machine. According to nmap it's "mdbs_daemon". Any help? |
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| 00:13.22 | mne | anyone have mythtv running ? I have problems with the backend |
| 00:13.30 | maher | pilgrim: use netstat -pant to find the ps using it |
| 00:13.32 | cheal | _rene_: according to policy 3.7, it's still forbiden |
| 00:13.53 | cheal | _rene_: are you talking about de facto/release-specific policies? |
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| 00:14.09 | kspath | !tell pilgrim about ports |
| 00:14.20 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, where r u located? |
| 00:14.24 | _rene_ | "Packages in main cannot require any software outside of main |
| 00:14.24 | _rene_ | for execution or compilation. |
| 00:14.25 | _rene_ | "Recommends:" lines do not count as requirements." |
| 00:14.32 | _rene_ | http://release.debian.org/etch_rc_policy.txt |
| 00:14.33 | kspath | pilgrim: lsof fuser |
| 00:14.39 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: central indiana |
| 00:14.45 | mne | !tell mne mythtv |
| 00:15.03 | kspath | !tell SonnyBurnett about u |
| 00:15.24 | cheal | _rene_: OK...I was heading there. thanks |
| 00:15.45 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: Also, given that you have two kinds of slots, are you sure you can use both at the same time? You may have to pull the 16M you have :P |
| 00:16.09 | grendal_prime | ya jabber server setup is confussing as all hell |
| 00:16.49 | grendal_prime | server is running im able to telnet into it but i get a protocol error when i try and register throught like kopete or any other client |
| 00:16.54 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, yeah maybe... what size are the simms of 72 pins that you have? |
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| 00:18.37 | kspath | What is the maximum size of memory addressable by that 486? |
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| 00:19.38 | cafuego | who broke security.d.o? |
| 00:19.50 | cafuego | aha! |
| 00:20.15 | pilgrim | OK. rpc.statd is listening on port 800. Is this thing needed? I'm not using NFS. If now how do I remove it (it isn't present in /etc/init.d/). |
| 00:20.18 | wols | the one who finds the corpse is always the first suspect. so it's you of course |
| 00:21.04 | SonnyBurnett | kspath, it supports 4 simm of 64M, so 4x64=256M I think |
| 00:21.04 | maher | pilgrim: you can just remove the package |
| 00:21.34 | pilgrim | All opposed? |
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| 00:21.40 | kspath | SonnyBurnett: that is quite nice. an old ppro 200mhz I had could only deal with 256MB ram also |
| 00:22.01 | johnsu01 | d'oh, screen just quit working.. type "screen", no error, no screen. Yet I have a screen session running in another term.. |
| 00:22.17 | nn_school | hi |
| 00:22.33 | kspath | johnsu01: detached? reattach? |
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| 00:23.02 | pilgrim | maher, what is the package? There is not package named rpc.statd |
| 00:23.19 | SonnyBurnett | kspath, I must get more ram, because the PC is working very very very slow |
| 00:23.19 | johnsu01 | kspath: sure, but just running screen should create a new screen, right? |
| 00:23.21 | maher | pilgrim: try dpkg -S path/to/file |
| 00:23.38 | kwertii | Is there a dpkg option that tells the "remove" command to skip running the pre-removal script? |
| 00:23.57 | maher | johnsu01: you need screen -R or something to resume |
| 00:24.17 | kwertii | I am trying to remove because components used in that script (among others) are broken. it won't let me re-install/upgrade the package because the remove script fails. --force-all does not help. |
| 00:24.26 | johnsu01 | maher: I don't want to resume. Running "screen" creates a new screen. |
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| 00:24.31 | kspath | pilgrim: apt-file search rpc.statd |
| 00:24.31 | maher | kwertii: just remove the script |
| 00:24.40 | johnsu01 | It appears to be some kind of term thing. Works in xterm, but not in aterm or urxvt. |
| 00:24.48 | kspath | pilgrim: apt-cache search rpc.statd |
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| 00:24.53 | maher | johnsu01: screen -R , see man screen for more info |
| 00:24.56 | kwertii | maher: where are the pre-removal scripts kept? |
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| 00:25.10 | maher | kwertii: /var/lib/dpkg/info or something |
| 00:25.13 | pilgrim | maher, kspath. thanks to both of you. |
| 00:25.16 | kwertii | maher: thanks |
| 00:25.27 | johnsu01 | maher: that has no relevance to what I'm trying to do, which is start a _new_ session. |
| 00:25.38 | siimo | hi is anyone using gnome 2.14 on sid |
| 00:25.44 | johnsu01 | maher: running screen in an xterm works. running it in aterm or urxvt does not. |
| 00:25.50 | maher | johnsu01: sorry - i misread what you said |
| 00:26.04 | maher | johnsu01: what error |
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| 00:26.08 | kspath | johnsu01: It was based on you saying you had screen in another term. |
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| 00:26.27 | johnsu01 | maher: there's no error, it just doesn't start a screen. |
| 00:26.49 | johnsu01 | kspath: I understand. I was just mentioning that I have a screen running already to show that screen does work in some cases on this system. |
| 00:26.54 | pilgrim | !tell me about rpc |
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| 00:28.01 | SonnyBurnett | pipeline, are you there? |
| 00:28.05 | kspath | johnsu01: I think your theory about terminal support is an/the issue. Do you have a screenrc? |
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| 00:29.10 | kspath | johnsu01: I have never had screen not work with aterm or wterm or rxvt that I remember. |
| 00:29.30 | kspath | johnsu01: over the years I have seen a screen session freak out though it is/was quite rare. |
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| 00:29.35 | johnsu01 | kspath: no, me neither. And I've been using screen for a while :). I do have a .screenrc, but it's quite short.. |
| 00:29.47 | orchid | johnsu01: try a .screenrc.test, with the single line startup_message on and then try screen -c .screenrc.test |
| 00:30.44 | johnsu01 | orchid: well, I just tried with no .screenrc at all, and had the same result. |
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| 00:30.49 | kspath | johnsu01: new aterm and/or new rxvts do not allow a start of screen? |
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| 00:31.12 | johnsu01 | kspath: correct. but new xterms do. |
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| 00:31.48 | kspath | johnsu01: screen might be in a strange state. You might have to end the other screen session in order to fix it. That is what I had to do a few times in the past on linux and bsd. |
| 00:32.02 | maher | johnsu01: screen doesn't work for me in aterm either |
| 00:32.08 | kspath | johnsu01: sorry I was not more help. |
| 00:32.18 | johnsu01 | maher: interesting.. |
| 00:32.32 | johnsu01 | maher: do you have another screen running? |
| 00:32.45 | kspath | I only use screen in aterm and wterm and rxvt myself. |
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| 00:32.55 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 00:32.55 | dpkg | from memory, tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 00:32.57 | pilgrim | Need I have portmap running? It's listening in port 111? |
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| 00:33.23 | unix_infidel | can anyone tell me why evolution is missing so many icons even though i have gnome-icons and gnome-extra-icons packages installed. |
| 00:33.51 | johnsu01 | I did just change a lot on my system, upgrade to the new xorg.. |
| 00:33.59 | maher | johnsu01: yes |
| 00:34.10 | kspath | !tell pilgrim about securing debian |
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| 00:34.24 | unix_infidel | anyone? |
| 00:34.24 | Nosf3ratu | bueller? |
| 00:34.49 | kspath | !tell pilgrim about portmap |
| 00:35.24 | pilgrim | kspath, thanks. |
| 00:35.58 | johnsu01 | kspath: alright, I'm going to gamble and try ending this screen session. |
| 00:36.54 | stew | kspath: die |
| 00:36.57 | stew | :) |
| 00:37.04 | kspath | !roll |
| 00:37.04 | dpkg | kspath rolled: 6 |
| 00:37.04 | |dennis| | kspath rolled a 3 on a 6 sided die!! |
| 00:37.16 | abrotman | !roll |
| 00:37.16 | dpkg | abrotman rolled: 6 |
| 00:37.17 | |dennis| | abrotman rolled a 1 on a 6 sided die!! |
| 00:37.24 | stew | |dennis|: owner |
| 00:37.26 | abrotman | |dennis|: turn your damn script off |
| 00:37.35 | abrotman | |dennis|: who owns you |
| 00:37.38 | abrotman | !ping |
| 00:37.39 | dpkg | pong |
| 00:37.48 | kspath | ::roll |
| 00:37.57 | kspath | hmmm |
| 00:39.07 | kspath | !die 20 |
| 00:39.17 | pilgrim | LOL! |
| 00:39.24 | kspath | oh my gosh |
| 00:39.34 | kspath | That was not what I expected at all. |
| 00:40.00 | pilgrim | !live damn it live. you can make it |
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| 00:40.44 | kspath | !test |
| 00:40.44 | dpkg | Yes, kspath, you're still online. |
| 00:40.48 | kspath | ok cool |
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| 00:41.58 | unix_infidel | can anyone help me out here, running debian etch installed evolution and gnome-panel last night, gnome-panel works fine. however evolution doesnt display ANY icons. |
| 00:42.01 | mentor | sorted? |
| 00:42.08 | unix_infidel | evolution-2.4:6811): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_gc_set_foreground: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed |
| 00:42.16 | unix_infidel | that's the error that i get when i issue evolution from a term |
| 00:42.16 | mentor | !roll |
| 00:42.16 | dpkg | mentor rolled: 1 |
| 00:42.17 | |dennis| | mentor rolled a 1 on a 6 sided die!! |
| 00:42.21 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 00:42.31 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@200.32.215.84] by mentor |
| 00:42.39 | abrotman | !cookie mentor |
| 00:42.40 | abrotman | doh |
| 00:42.41 | dpkg | Hey abrotman, gameboy is a old portable gaming system recently renewed by NINTENDO is come is a couple flavors OLD SHOOL the big chunky one, POCKET the newer smaller version, COLOR, pocket only with color, it runs on a zilog80 chip at 8mhz with 256k ram, no Linux port is avable at this time, DemENtoR: has overclocked his gameboy to 12mhz and put a cooler on it, and added a adaper for 9v bateries(it runs 5days strait) |
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| 00:42.46 | *** kick/#debian [|dennis|!n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor] by mentor (It's rude to steal another man's trigger) |
| 00:43.07 | abrotman | mentor: nice gameboy |
| 00:43.37 | mentor | ... |
| 00:43.38 | mentor | right |
| 00:43.42 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:44.12 | r_marvin | the dpkg dictatorship must prevail ;) |
| 00:44.12 | honschu | Is a 17" better than a 15" Notebook? |
| 00:44.39 | pilgrim | honschu, yes. |
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| 00:45.00 | mentor | r_marvin: trigger collisions are bad mmm'kay; He's welcome to run bots in here, just as long as they don't piss everyone off :) |
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| 00:45.21 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@200.32.215.84] by mentor |
| 00:45.28 | *** mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 00:45.41 | mentor | or otherwise break channel policy |
| 00:45.50 | mentor | honschu: By two whole inches? |
| 00:45.55 | johnsu01 | kspath: that was it, no trouble starting it from urxvt now. |
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| 00:46.06 | r_marvin | yes, of course. i just found it funny, that's all |
| 00:46.47 | mentor | r_marvin: cool. I'm just scared of those labelling me a tyrant. They might depose me before my power is absolute. |
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| 00:46.59 | r_marvin | ;) |
| 00:47.02 | loggygreg | how can i mount a iso image (I have forgotten, I know that I have to use a loop but can't remenber the command) |
| 00:47.19 | r_marvin | mount -o loop file.iso |
| 00:47.43 | r_marvin | + /targetdir , of course |
| 00:48.14 | amphi | and perhaps -t iso9660 |
| 00:49.01 | loggygreg | r_marvin, amphi :ok ,thanks |
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| 00:49.04 | concept10 | if a project is released under the GPL, and if I only use the images and CSS and not the code, do I have to release my code or only provide changes to the images and css |
| 00:49.14 | kspath | r_marvin: What is a dpkg dictatorship? |
| 00:49.30 | Jetpack | If you do something like manually compile Perl 5.8.8 from source from www.perl.com, how do you tell Apt that Perl is installed and it doesn't have to worry about dependencies on it? |
| 00:50.18 | mtnman | jetpack: man equivs (i think that is what you want) |
| 00:50.29 | r_marvin | kspath: sorry, they would kill me if i reveal this. my lips are sealed |
| 00:50.48 | Jetpack | mtnman thanks ! |
| 00:50.54 | mtnman | jetpack: welcome! |
| 00:51.20 | honschu | mentor: two whole inches |
| 00:51.54 | killown | how to install slackware through qemu? |
| 00:52.08 | kspath | !dictatorship |
| 00:52.08 | dpkg | i guess dictatorship is I rule over all other bots. |
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| 00:52.38 | thingfish | you do, dpkg. |
| 00:53.26 | minerale | I have a ext3 partition on my flash drive, how can I mount it so that it's write-able ? |
| 00:53.27 | stew | killown: this is not the right channel for help with installing slackware |
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| 00:53.56 | killown | stew how to install debian through qemu? |
| 00:53.58 | stew | minerale: mount /dev/sda1 /mountpoint ; where sda1 is the acutal partition device |
| 00:54.00 | jshriver | Greetings, can someone help me setup my hauppauge card. |
| 00:54.14 | jshriver | I can get video from composite, but not from the tuner. bttv is loaded so not sure what the matter is |
| 00:54.14 | minerale | stew that did not work, it's coming up read only |
| 00:54.34 | abrotman | killown: ask #slackware or #qemu |
| 00:54.36 | minerale | err nvm that might be my file permissions |
| 00:55.03 | stew | minerale: when you type "mount" does it show up as (rw) or (ro)? |
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| 00:57.34 | minerale | stew: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ext2 (rw) -> mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Input/output error |
| 00:57.43 | MrRio | how can i replace certain string of text within a binary file? (using some commandline tool preferably) |
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| 00:57.51 | abrotman | sed |
| 00:59.08 | jshriver | gdb |
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| 00:59.32 | bono | Question: now that i have kde up and running, my ~/.bash_profile script isnt executed on startup... where could i put my user-specific init stuff? |
| 00:59.45 | abrotman | bono: vi .bashrc |
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| 01:00.29 | pilgrim | "fam is also an RPC service, and thus depends on portmap" (securing debian how-to). Need I keep fam? |
| 01:00.35 | mentor | heh |
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| 01:00.44 | mentor | pilgrim: gamin? |
| 01:00.45 | bono | abrotman: ill give it a try. thx |
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| 01:01.03 | pilgrim | menko, heh. nope :S |
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| 01:01.10 | unix_infidel | anyone for my evolution question, i've googled and this isnt getting any hits. |
| 01:01.14 | kspath | !tell pilgrim about fam |
| 01:01.18 | abrotman | pilgrim: your server runs X ? |
| 01:01.19 | unix_infidel | i still cant seem to get any icons to show up on evolution. |
| 01:01.23 | pilgrim | kspath, yeah |
| 01:01.43 | pilgrim | abrotman, nope doesn't run x |
| 01:01.52 | jshriver | I have 2 sound cards in this machine, and everytime I reboot I have to run alsaconf again.. how can I fix this? |
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| 01:01.57 | abrotman | then why do you have fam installed ? |
| 01:02.32 | pilgrim | abrotman, default install or baseinstall, don't know what's it called. |
| 01:02.51 | pilgrim | abrotman, (or it might have been courier-imap or courier-pop) |
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| 01:03.24 | abrotman | so fam has nothing to do with it |
| 01:03.29 | kspath | jshriver: One is onboard and other is PCI and you want to keep both for various reasons? |
| 01:03.58 | pilgrim | abrotman, well, yeah by the looks of it (from aptitude) I should be able to remove it because no one depends on it. |
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| 01:04.50 | jshriver | kspath, the onboard one is screwed upa nd doesnt work.. but linux still detects it and loads the kernel.. |
| 01:05.03 | pilgrim | How do I get forward dependands of a package? (forward = whatever depends on the package) |
| 01:05.06 | jshriver | I only want to keep the pci one.. |
| 01:05.20 | abrotman | !tell pilgrim about grounding |
| 01:06.02 | bloom | pilgrim: apt-rdepends -r |
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| 01:06.12 | bloom | pilgrim: the term is "reverse depends" |
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| 01:06.22 | pilgrim | bloom, oh thanks :) |
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| 01:09.51 | abrotman | !moo |
| 01:09.52 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:10.09 | unix_infidel | ok, well i'm getting one pertinent hit on google with my evolution problem, it seems its a broken package, but they talk about cvs version, i'm running testing but its worked before just not on this box for some reason. |
| 01:10.21 | unix_infidel | apt-get install evolution is the improper way to do it, is there a metapackage i need to mess with? |
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| 01:10.33 | abrotman | that is the correct way |
| 01:10.53 | unix_infidel | well, theonly reason i can think of is lack of complimentary packages. |
| 01:11.03 | unix_infidel | maybe i need gnome-base/ |
| 01:11.05 | abrotman | if you want stability .. use sarge |
| 01:11.18 | unix_infidel | heh, no i'm looking for functionality. |
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| 01:12.02 | davepzedkep | Hi. This a good place to ask questions about software raid? |
| 01:12.11 | thingfish | functionality without stablilty is meaningless. |
| 01:12.16 | abrotman | davepzedkep: on debian ? |
| 01:12.24 | davepzedkep | Yup. |
| 01:12.27 | davepzedkep | Unstable. |
| 01:12.30 | davepzedkep | But not "sid" |
| 01:12.30 | abrotman | unix_infidel: if it doesn't work at all .. not very functional is it? |
| 01:12.34 | abrotman | sid is unstable |
| 01:12.42 | davepzedkep | Ah. |
| 01:12.44 | unix_infidel | i'm running etch. |
| 01:12.46 | unstable | lol |
| 01:12.49 | unix_infidel | not quite that unstable. |
| 01:12.56 | davepzedkep | Sorry, trying to remember the release streams. |
| 01:12.58 | unix_infidel | i think i have the solution though. |
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| 01:13.05 | unstable | !tell davepzedkep about software raid |
| 01:13.10 | davepzedkep | I installed it only a few weeks ago, but in a _big_ hurry. |
| 01:13.12 | davepzedkep | Oh, hang on/.. |
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| 01:13.20 | pipeline | SonnyBurnett: eh? |
| 01:13.29 | minerale | bah don't ever play with your flash drive's partitions after a second martini, I guarantee you will loose your frickin data |
| 01:13.36 | abrotman | pipeline: damn you .. don't get him started again! |
| 01:13.48 | thingfish | minerale: hehe hey I've been there buddy |
| 01:13.54 | abrotman | minerale: lose ? |
| 01:14.27 | thingfish | minerale: I unplugged my pata drive just a *little* too soon a couple weeks ago...lost my backup ext3 partition. |
| 01:14.29 | kspath | lose and loose is not unlike the problem with chose choose |
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| 01:14.39 | abrotman | kspath: eh ? |
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| 01:14.54 | abrotman | loose is totally different than lose |
| 01:15.06 | davepzedkep | Ah, got it (the image I used). It was testing, not unstable. We installed on a Dell SC430 which (IIRC) uses Intel's ICH7. |
| 01:15.23 | thingfish | let's just all take our medicine and be nice #debian denizens. |
| 01:15.24 | minerale | chose is the past tense of choose, the l's have nothing to do w/ each other |
| 01:15.37 | davepzedkep | Consequently I'm attempting to create two identical SATA drives as the boot volume and though I had selected the right bits in the installer to do so. |
| 01:15.48 | davepzedkep | However, mdadm reports that one of the drives is missing... |
| 01:15.49 | kspath | abrotman: It is most often a branching decision in the brain. |
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| 01:16.09 | davepzedkep | and that root is mounted off /dev/sda1 |
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| 01:16.14 | abrotman | or stupidity :) |
| 01:16.17 | davepzedkep | (being the missing disk of course). |
| 01:16.38 | kspath | abrotman: I was only making an excuse for someone elses typo/braino. |
| 01:16.48 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:16.58 | thingfish | abrotman: stupidity doesn't bother me so much, now that I see human beings as just little more than chimpanzees. |
| 01:17.03 | pipeline | abrotman: Get him started on what? |
| 01:17.13 | abrotman | pipeline: anything |
| 01:17.26 | abrotman | thingfish: most of us are anyways |
| 01:17.36 | pipeline | abrotman: Goldfish memory. |
| 01:17.38 | thingfish | abrotman: intelligence is rare - and probably a defect of some sort. |
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| 01:17.45 | abrotman | pipeline: Sonny |
| 01:17.52 | Stereo | hello folks. I I was wondering how I could make [[:alnum:]].Inbox match any number of alnums, so that John.Inbox would match but John.Archive.Inbox wouldn't |
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| 01:17.54 | kspath | thingfish: Not everyone that pretends at being human can be taught to use tools or higher reasoning. |
| 01:17.54 | abrotman | thingfish: says the fish ? :) |
| 01:18.00 | Stereo | -I |
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| 01:18.19 | thingfish | abrotman: well I'm not all fish, I'm part mammy nun too. |
| 01:18.26 | abrotman | Stereo: the "." shouldn't match |
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| 01:18.36 | abrotman | thingfish: oh ok |
| 01:18.38 | davepzedkep | Ummm, anyone interested in talking about Debian today? Am I missing something here? |
| 01:18.49 | pipeline | davepzedkep: This channel is about cocks. |
| 01:18.57 | abrotman | it is? |
| 01:19.01 | pipeline | davepzedkep: hence its name, #cocks. Oh wait. |
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| 01:19.05 | davepzedkep | Ah, that would explain a thing or two. |
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| 01:19.31 | abrotman | davepzedkep: you have no logs ? |
| 01:19.37 | stew | speaking of cocks: http://www.theregister.com/2006/03/31/ebay_box_sale |
| 01:19.46 | kspath | !cocks |
| 01:19.47 | dpkg | cocks are male chickens! |
| 01:19.47 | davepzedkep | Logs? |
| 01:19.50 | davepzedkep | Of the chatroom? |
| 01:20.04 | thingfish | abrotman: I took my nick from a frank zappa album - about a san quentin inmate that gets turned into a mammy nun (with a potato head) and who starts up a show on broadway. |
| 01:20.06 | Stereo | abrotman: yes, but John won't either. J.Inbox will because [[:alnum:]] will only match one character |
| 01:20.10 | kspath | !room |
| 01:20.10 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 01:20.11 | markybob | can anyone suggest a program/script to check a maildir's consistency (making sure nothing's corrupt)? |
| 01:20.34 | abrotman | thingfish: obviously |
| 01:21.11 | thingfish | oh abrotman I didn't know you knew. |
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| 01:21.16 | abrotman | davepzedkep: is the drive actually there? |
| 01:21.21 | abrotman | thingfish: i didn't .. that was sarcasm :) |
| 01:21.23 | davepzedkep | Yes |
| 01:21.25 | thingfish | oh |
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| 01:21.35 | davepzedkep | The missing drive is mounted as root |
| 01:21.37 | thingfish | abrotman: it's a masterpiece. |
| 01:21.39 | stew | Stereo: [[:alnum:]]* will match 0 or more, [[:alnum:]]+ will match 1 or more |
| 01:21.51 | thingfish | abrotman: foul as hell in some places, but killer vocals. |
| 01:22.11 | abrotman | thingfish: can't we all listen to donovan? |
| 01:22.22 | Stereo | stew: in a shell script? |
| 01:22.27 | abrotman | davepzedkep: so you want .. a full RAID1? |
| 01:22.30 | thingfish | abrotman: hey for sure, man, peace... |
| 01:22.38 | thingfish | mellow yellow... |
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| 01:22.45 | Stereo | [[:alnum:]]* will match John.Archive.Inbox in my example, which I don't want |
| 01:22.47 | abrotman | thingfish: heh |
| 01:22.51 | yggdrasil | is there a way to force an fsck when i reboot... ? |
| 01:22.58 | davepzedkep | Ideally, on root. And that's what I thought I had sorted. Hang on, I'll post some bits from the config.... |
| 01:23.13 | Stereo | yggdrasil: try touch /forcefsck |
| 01:23.22 | abrotman | davepzedkep: there are a number if 'gotchas' with sw raid |
| 01:23.44 | yggdrasil | jsut like that and reboot ? |
| 01:23.44 | stew | Stereo: "^[[:alnum:]]*\.Inbox$" would match John.Inbox but not John.Archive.Inbox |
| 01:23.45 | davepzedkep | So we have a raid1 with a missing disk. It's been partitioned into swap and non-swap... |
| 01:23.48 | davepzedkep | md1 : active raid1 sdb5[0] |
| 01:23.48 | davepzedkep | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.51 | davepzedkep | www:/home/davep# cat /proc/mdstat |
| 01:23.53 | davepzedkep | Personalities : [raid1] |
| 01:23.56 | davepzedkep | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:23.56 | Stereo | yggdrasil: or is it .autofsck ? I can't remember |
| 01:23.58 | davepzedkep | md0 : active raid1 sdb1[0] |
| 01:24.00 | abrotman | davepzedkep: firstly .. don't paste here |
| 01:24.01 | davepzedkep | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.03 | davepzedkep | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.04 | davepzedkep | OK |
| 01:24.05 | abrotman | or fine .. whatever |
| 01:24.06 | davepzedkep | unused devices: <none> |
| 01:24.08 | davepzedkep | Sorry |
| 01:24.26 | yggdrasil | well this is abox that remote so i need to get it right. |
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| 01:25.03 | freelancer | hello |
| 01:25.06 | abrotman | davepzedkep: what's your boot loader? |
| 01:25.10 | davepzedkep | grub |
| 01:25.22 | abrotman | i think that's one of the gotchas |
| 01:25.26 | davepzedkep | abrotman - can we open a separate window? |
| 01:25.31 | kspath | !tell davepzedkep about paste |
| 01:25.45 | abrotman | you'd have to read the sw raid howto . but i think that grub can't boot a /boot/ off sw raid |
| 01:25.47 | thingfish | abrotman: if it's a hebrew national, it's ok. |
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| 01:25.59 | abrotman | davepzedkep: i'd prefer to keep it here .. my sw raid knowledge is pretty iffy |
| 01:26.09 | abrotman | thingfish: my dad would be proud |
| 01:26.15 | thingfish | ;) |
| 01:26.28 | davepzedkep | OK |
| 01:26.41 | Stereo | stew: `touch John.Inbox; ls -d ^[[:alnum:]]*\.Inbox$` returns No such file or directory |
| 01:26.43 | bloom | does anybody here know how to use mkisofs with the -old_root option? if I'm writing a third session, do I use -old_root to refer to the first session, the second session, or do I use -old_root twice to refer to both? |
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| 01:26.59 | Stereo | stew: but it really looks like what I'd like to do :) |
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| 01:27.19 | abrotman | Stereo: tried #bash ? |
| 01:27.25 | davepzedkep | So mdstat looks like this: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2465 |
| 01:27.34 | Stereo | abrotman: good idea |
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| 01:28.24 | davepzedkep | And mount http://channels.debian.net/paste/2466. |
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| 01:28.51 | davepzedkep | So it seems like /dev/sda1 has been mounted before the raid set could get going. |
| 01:28.58 | minerale | how do you disable automatic mounting of flash drives? |
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| 01:30.00 | davepzedkep | Presumably I need to mount the raid set as root |
| 01:31.29 | epsilon | how can I convert TIFF images to JPG in shell? |
| 01:31.46 | kspath | !imagemajik |
| 01:31.56 | pinky_ | I'm about to recompile to 2.6.16.12 but the Changes file says I should have udev 071 or greater, and I only have udev 056. Should I get the new version? |
| 01:32.00 | kspath | !imagemagik |
| 01:32.01 | amphi | epsilon: convert foo.tif foo.jpg - you might want to look at the quality option... |
| 01:32.14 | amphi | !imagemagick |
| 01:32.43 | davepzedkep | Ok. clearly not going to happen. |
| 01:33.03 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:33.15 | Dreamlogi | Guys, can I tell my sshd to block an ip for lets say 5 minutes if there are 3 concecutive failed login attempts from that ip? |
| 01:33.19 | abrotman | sometimes .. i wish there was a #printing and a #swraid |
| 01:33.19 | kspath | imagemagick - Image manipulation programs |
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| 01:33.35 | abrotman | Dreamlogi: #iptables |
| 01:33.35 | Stereo | yggdrasil: still there? |
| 01:33.49 | kspath | epsilon: imagemagick - Image manipulation programs |
| 01:34.01 | Stereo | yggdrasil: shutdown -F is what you're looking for |
| 01:34.09 | Dreamlogi | abrotman, can I get this done automaticly in iptables? |
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| 01:34.36 | kspath | amphi: Thanks, I was having memory issues. |
| 01:34.36 | abrotman | Dreamlogi: maybe .. i know you can do the blocking .. dunno about the 5 minute thing |
| 01:35.10 | dotCOMmie | whats the best tool to check for leaf-node-packages installed on a system? |
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| 01:35.17 | amphi | kspath: it's an irritating spelling IMHO |
| 01:35.18 | x`y`-xy | what you recomand me .....sendmail or qmail ....for debian ?? |
| 01:35.27 | kspath | amphi: I agree. |
| 01:35.27 | amphi | postfix |
| 01:35.33 | x`y`-xy | :) |
| 01:35.37 | dotCOMmie | qmail's a bitch to set up under debian |
| 01:35.45 | nite613_ | dotCOMmie: deborphan? |
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| 01:35.51 | x`y`-xy | wowo |
| 01:35.58 | abrotman | qmail is a bitch |
| 01:36.01 | amphi | kspath: recalls Alistair Crowley unpleasantly ;) |
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| 01:36.33 | wiston | Hello |
| 01:36.42 | dotCOMmie | nite613_: thanks, I'll check it out |
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| 01:37.19 | wiston | somebody now if there is suport for a 3com model 3472 winmodem |
| 01:37.33 | wiston | ? |
| 01:37.49 | abrotman | !winmodem |
| 01:37.50 | dpkg | GPL driver and info can be found in http://www-124.ibm.com/acpmodem/ http://www.linmodems.org, or http://linux.nf/lesbell.htm or here is a black list of known to be winmodems: http://start.at/modem/ and http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. See also: winmodem-trick, or a 3Com/USRobotics trademark, or see <slmodem> |
| 01:38.10 | dotCOMmie | nite613_: looks like it'll do the trick! |
| 01:38.11 | wiston | thanks |
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| 01:38.49 | Dreamlogi | abrotman, how would you permanently block an ip adress using iptables? |
| 01:39.32 | abrotman | Dreamlogi: i don't have it in front of me .. but google something like "ssh iptables block debian-administration.org" |
| 01:39.35 | kspath | Dreamlogi: firhol or shorewall or firestarter |
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| 01:40.22 | kspath | err firehol |
| 01:40.23 | Dreamlogi | iptables -I input -s ip -j drop? |
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| 01:40.46 | abrotman | Dreamlogi: ask #iptables |
| 01:40.49 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 01:40.49 | dpkg | from memory, iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 01:41.01 | pinky_ | When I try to update udev, I get this error message: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" |
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| 01:41.22 | abrotman | are you root ? |
| 01:41.23 | nite613_ | dotCOMmie: thuoght that's what you were after |
| 01:41.30 | Dreamlogi | k, thanks guys. |
| 01:41.48 | lekvar | Should I expect USB to "just work" with a clean Etch install or does it normall require extra effort? |
| 01:41.54 | dotCOMmie | nite613_: it also gave me an idea to make something that draws package trees d: |
| 01:42.36 | kspath | lekvar: Should we assume what you mean by USB and "just works"? |
| 01:42.57 | pinky_ | abrotman: Were you asking me? |
| 01:43.04 | pinky_ | Is also says: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 01:43.04 | abrotman | yes |
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| 01:43.23 | pinky_ | I mean, yes, I'm using synaptic and I had to type in my root pw to load it |
| 01:43.37 | epsilon | how can I display all stored extra information (so not the actually picture part) in a TIFF image? |
| 01:44.10 | epsilon | so the tiff version of jhead |
| 01:44.12 | lekvar | kspath: USB on an older laptop, which which I'm hoping to use a cordless mouse and an SD reader. |
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| 01:44.19 | dondelelcaro | epsilon: using Image::Info in perl is the easy way; identify in imagemagick will also work. |
| 01:44.29 | epsilon | ok |
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| 01:44.44 | yetistomps | how do i restart a service... like samba? |
| 01:44.57 | epsilon | ./etc/init.d/samba restart |
| 01:46.32 | yetistomps | epsilon, thank u. :-) I guess i didn't have it installed .. lol |
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| 01:48.03 | pinky_ | Why do I have no "gcc" command in my $PATH, only gcc-version like "gcc-3.3", "gcc-2.95", or "gcc-3.4"... I need just "gcc" to work to compile the kernel with make-kpkg |
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| 01:48.50 | dondelelcaro | pinky_: you haven't installed the gcc package. |
| 01:48.52 | dondelelcaro | !d-i pinky_ |
| 01:48.52 | dpkg | pinky_, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:48.57 | dondelelcaro | gah. |
| 01:48.59 | dondelelcaro | !b-e pinky_ |
| 01:49.00 | dpkg | pinky_: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 01:50.19 | pinky_ | Why how did I miss that |
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| 01:50.27 | pinky_ | ugh |
| 01:50.27 | pinky_ | Thanks |
| 01:50.35 | dondelelcaro | pinky_: np |
| 01:51.03 | ALoGeNo | hiz |
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| 01:52.27 | jshriver | If you compile the kernel and choose module for every possible device, does the kernel auto probe all of them to see if you have the device during boot? |
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| 01:53.04 | trc | anybody knows of sid netinstall image |
| 01:53.24 | abrotman | there isn't one |
| 01:53.35 | trc | hmm |
| 01:54.02 | trc | sid iso images? |
| 01:54.09 | abrotman | nope |
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| 01:54.14 | abrotman | well ... maybe |
| 01:54.16 | abrotman | but why bother |
| 01:54.38 | abrotman | http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/index.en-gb.html#unofficial |
| 01:54.39 | dondelelcaro | trc: if you know enough to use sid, you know enough to boot off of any Debian iso with debootstrap and install sid directly. |
| 01:54.45 | abrotman | there you go .. they'll be out of date tomorrow |
| 01:54.50 | trc | is not for me |
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| 01:55.01 | abrotman | or next week |
| 01:55.05 | trc | is for my bro, who is far enough to limit my help |
| 01:55.18 | abrotman | but CDs won't help |
| 01:55.22 | dondelelcaro | trc: well, if it's for someone else, I'd suggest using testing or sarge; if they're ready, they can figure it out without it. |
| 01:55.23 | trc | thanks dodndeelcaro |
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| 02:03.11 | pinky_ | I'm having trouble updating udev. I'm on kernel 2.6.8 with sarge which has udev 056, and I need to update it to udev 071 or later to build a new kernel with make-kpkg. Unfortunately the updated udev packages available at backports.org and in the testing branch will not work with 2.6.8... |
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| 02:07.48 | jplibre | hah, funny - i was just debugging an issue with our serial console (cyclades) and aterm and I noticed people here having issues with aterm too |
| 02:08.11 | jplibre | seems like xterm does something aterm, rxvt, and eterm are not |
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| 02:08.19 | jplibre | and I prefer aterm :( |
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| 02:08.31 | yetistomps | i am having some difficulty accessing my winxp shared drives via samba. Samba is enabled. BUT i get connection to "shared-hd" failed whend doing smbclient -L /shared-hd (wher shared-hd is enabled in hosts and hosts.allow) |
| 02:08.44 | yetistomps | any ideas to where i should start troubleshooting? |
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| 02:09.56 | stred | hi |
| 02:09.56 | littleball | hello, i need to test my website which support multiple languages. How can i test? i need to configure my browser/or my os to use different locale, right? |
| 02:10.00 | littleball | any simple way? |
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| 02:11.42 | yetistomps | i am able to mount a debian data drive from winxp. BUT i am not able to mount a winxp data drive from debian.. what's the deal? Am i misising some permissions? |
| 02:11.44 | stoned | yetistomps, have you added the samba user? root is disabled by default. use smbpasswd -a username |
| 02:11.51 | yetistomps | stoned, yes.. it's added already |
| 02:12.05 | yetistomps | yetistomps@druid:~$ smbclient -L /twitch/ |
| 02:12.05 | yetistomps | Connection to twitch failed |
| 02:12.26 | stoned | umm, you're supposed to speficy ip/host here |
| 02:12.47 | yetistomps | stoned, ip is defined in the hosts file.. i just didnt want to type the entire IP |
| 02:13.04 | stoned | yes, thats why I said or host |
| 02:13.08 | yetistomps | twitch = 192.168.0.100 |
| 02:13.17 | stoned | but you can't do that with // around it |
| 02:13.24 | stoned | smbclient -L hostname |
| 02:13.30 | stoned | smbclient -L IP.IP.IP.IP |
| 02:13.32 | stoned | etc. |
| 02:13.35 | stred | i have made fresh instalation of debian sarge and than made dist-upgrede to sid. After updated i decident to isntall Xorg and stuff with synaptic from unstable repositories, however there is error when configuring xserver-xorg: "xserver-xorg config warning: Migrating xserver-xfree86 debconf values to |
| 02:13.40 | stred | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.01 | gravity | stred: Does it exit with like status 10? |
| 02:14.04 | yetistomps | stoned, OK! i was able to see my winxp drive.. :-) |
| 02:14.04 | stred | couldn't configure xserver-xorg, error: 10 |
| 02:14.17 | stred | how can i install that xserver-xorg package? |
| 02:14.24 | gravity | stred: Yeah, known bug fixed in svn. I'll be uploading the fix at some point soon |
| 02:14.35 | stoned | yetistomps, it is always a good idea to read the manpage of a program you are trying to use |
| 02:14.42 | yetistomps | stoned, but now if I want 2 mount it locally i typed: mount /twitch (where twitch is the winxp data drive) |
| 02:14.42 | gravity | stred: You can't really right now, although you could pull the package from svn and build it yourself if you want |
| 02:14.54 | yetistomps | stoned, and no dice... |
| 02:15.07 | yetistomps | stoned, i did read the manpage.. i just cant remember everything. First time i read this. |
| 02:15.17 | stred | so... i should just wait some moment a try again? correct? |
| 02:15.20 | stoned | yetistomps, install smbfs and use mount -t smbfs |
| 02:15.33 | yetistomps | stoned, apt-get install smbfs? |
| 02:15.51 | stoned | sure |
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| 02:16.31 | yetistomps | stoned, smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000) |
| 02:16.31 | yetistomps | smbmnt failed: 1 |
| 02:16.42 | yetistomps | err... isn't that a security risk? |
| 02:17.24 | yetistomps | bah...nv. It's only me and my gf here anyways. |
| 02:17.40 | stoned | apt-get install smbfs && smbmount <server> <mount opint> -options if any |
| 02:18.06 | stoned | it isn't all that complicated |
| 02:18.25 | yetistomps | stoned, i can mount but i need to suid smbmt |
| 02:18.49 | unix_infidel | hey guys i'm getting an error after apt-get upgrade in debian testing: "waiting for root file system" and then it just drops to a shell, but when i boot to 2.6.8 in recovery mode it works just fine. |
| 02:18.52 | stoned | yetistomps, sudo smbmount? |
| 02:19.11 | stoned | yetistomps, apt-get install sudo && nano /etc/sudoers |
| 02:19.18 | stoned | so forth... |
| 02:19.43 | yetistomps | stoned, i want ANY user to mount this data drive without ROOT access. |
| 02:19.55 | yetistomps | hence..no sudo. |
| 02:20.05 | stoned | like you said, its just you and your gf |
| 02:20.36 | stoned | she too much a security risk for your highly classified data? |
| 02:20.38 | stoned | ;) |
| 02:20.38 | unix_infidel | any ideas? |
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| 02:20.52 | gravity | stred: Yeah, the next time a version is uploaded, it should work |
| 02:21.10 | yetistomps | stoned, lol.. yeah.. she might discover all my p@n collection. |
| 02:21.39 | yetistomps | stoned, now i need to get the necessary files to mount nfs drives. |
| 02:21.42 | stoned | yetistomps, you can mount this on system boot, so that way, you don't need tow orry about users mounting unmounting, its always accesible |
| 02:22.10 | stoned | yetistomps, apt-get install nfs-kernel-server && nano /etc/exports && /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start |
| 02:22.12 | yetistomps | stoned, oh? changing /etc/fstab to auto? but then it asks for a password |
| 02:23.19 | yetistomps | stoned, the /etc/exports... should it be locally or from where I am getting the nfs drive from? |
| 02:24.27 | stoned | server |
| 02:24.39 | stoned | exports contains the directories/shares you want to share |
| 02:25.23 | stoned | example would be /home/user (laptop,sync) |
| 02:25.37 | stoned | er... |
| 02:25.46 | yetistomps | This: /trolldata/ *(rw,async,all_squash <--this is a line from my server box (where i want to share data) is this correct? |
| 02:25.53 | stoned | would be /home/user laptop(rw,sync) |
| 02:26.13 | yetistomps | just copied some example on google.. :-) |
| 02:26.17 | stoned | man 5 exports |
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| 02:26.33 | stoned | doh |
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| 02:27.32 | yetistomps | yetistomps@druid:~$ man 5 exports |
| 02:27.32 | yetistomps | No manual entry for exports in section 5 |
| 02:27.36 | stoned | yetistomps, basically , exports only contains this. /stuff/you/wanna/share withTHISpc(rw,sync) --(rw here gives read/write, you can opt to not put this in) |
| 02:27.39 | stoned | i know |
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| 02:28.35 | stoned | hmm, even man -k no return exports |
| 02:30.09 | stew | nfs-kernel-server: /usr/share/man/man5/exports.5.gz |
| 02:30.15 | yetistomps | stoned, i know i can put the nfs drives to start at boot automatically with no password... but samba shares will stall at boot asking for a password to mount (i setup NO password to mount a winxp samba share) |
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| 02:30.51 | yetistomps | although to mount a debian data drive via samba... i have a password. |
| 02:31.14 | stoned | yetistomps, modify security = user to security = share |
| 02:31.18 | stoned | in smb.conf |
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| 02:31.46 | yetistomps | stoned, ahh... so that way it will not ask for a passwd. Coolbeans. |
| 02:31.56 | stoned | yetistomps, samba.org |
| 02:31.59 | stoned | get readin |
| 02:32.30 | nite613 | doh. Think I borked myself. I have a sid machine here that must have gone sarge->etch->sid, it's running 2.2.20! Now I can't upgrade to 2.4 or 2.6 without libc6, but libc6 won't install without a 2.4 kernel :P |
| 02:32.34 | stoned | yetistomps, if the share is pass protected then of course you will need a password |
| 02:32.35 | nite613 | any suggestions? ;) |
| 02:33.09 | yetistomps | stoned, err.. i didnt set up a password on the winxp end. |
| 02:33.16 | stoned | ok then |
| 02:33.59 | abrotman | nite613: install them at the same time ? |
| 02:34.02 | yetistomps | stoned, testing... brb after reboot. |
| 02:34.08 | abrotman | and a 2.2 is from woody .. not sarge |
| 02:34.11 | stoned | you dont need to reboot |
| 02:34.24 | nite613 | abrotman: That's what I figured, but libc6 always gets installed first, and something in the install script checks the kernel version then fails out |
| 02:34.34 | yetistomps | stoned, err.. i do have a laptop? |
| 02:34.53 | stoned | yetistomps, how would I know if you have a laptop or not? |
| 02:34.55 | x`y`-xy | if i have installed phpmyadmin ......how can uninstall it ??? |
| 02:35.03 | yetistomps | stoned, now u do. :-) |
| 02:35.16 | stoned | are you asking me if you have a laptop? |
| 02:35.18 | stoned | I am confused |
| 02:35.28 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:35.28 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 02:36.27 | stoned | abrotman, who the fsck is Jim? |
| 02:37.00 | gravity | mmmm... dinner |
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| 02:37.15 | stoned | Must have been the first person to say U |
| 02:37.21 | abrotman | gravity: wee late? |
| 02:37.22 | stoned | or perhaps its your average Joe |
| 02:37.33 | abrotman | stoned: Jim ? |
| 02:37.33 | gravity | A bit |
| 02:37.40 | GiGaHuRtZ|Arch | I'm trying to find an AMD64 net install iso, but I can't find on the mirrors, I keep getting lost in the mirrors or something |
| 02:37.57 | abrotman | gravity: and i think i eat late at like 830 :) |
| 02:37.57 | stoned | abrotman, yes Jim, who is he? |
| 02:37.57 | abrotman | stoned: Bones ? |
| 02:37.57 | abrotman | and Jim? |
| 02:37.57 | abrotman | Captain Jim? |
| 02:38.01 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah, I spent the early evening just going through the masses of email |
| 02:38.04 | stoned | abrotman, Bones? oh fuck it, I give |
| 02:38.06 | stoned | :( |
| 02:38.09 | GiGaHuRtZ|Arch | Can someone point me to the right part of the mirror for the amd64 net install iso? |
| 02:38.19 | gravity | That and trying to update a few of the xorg components |
| 02:38.21 | stoned | !d-i |
| 02:38.21 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 02:38.22 | abrotman | stoned: afaict .. it's a star trek reference .. Captain James T Kirk |
| 02:38.34 | stoned | ahh, I see :) |
| 02:38.37 | abrotman | gravity: eww .. should have eaten :) |
| 02:38.43 | abrotman | gravity: but guess what! |
| 02:38.48 | GiGaHuRtZ|Arch | stoned, I can't find a amd64 net install iso on there... |
| 02:39.03 | GiGaHuRtZ|Arch | err |
| 02:39.04 | GiGaHuRtZ|Arch | nvm |
| 02:39.05 | gravity | abrotman: Are you going to debconf? |
| 02:39.09 | GiGaHuRtZ|Arch | I was looking manually :-P |
| 02:39.11 | abrotman | gravity: the sox one |
| 02:39.12 | abrotman | won |
| 02:39.14 | abrotman | jeez .. that was bad |
| 02:39.17 | gravity | Damn, I was wrong |
| 02:39.18 | gravity | Hehehe |
| 02:39.18 | abrotman | gravity: nerp .. |
| 02:39.25 | abrotman | gravity: damog is mad at me |
| 02:39.32 | gravity | damog: And well you should be! |
| 02:39.38 | stoned | man I am hungry |
| 02:39.45 | abrotman | stoned: you're always hungry |
| 02:39.53 | stoned | I have the option of Burgur King, lol shaddup |
| 02:39.55 | gravity | Annie's macaroni ftw |
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| 02:40.07 | stoned | I got burgur king close to me, and this long john silvers |
| 02:40.08 | abrotman | stoned: don't you have any food at home ? |
| 02:40.18 | abrotman | eww .. LJS .. ew ew ew |
| 02:40.20 | stoned | abrotman, i dunno how to cook mate |
| 02:40.23 | damog | gravity: abrotman won't come because he hates latinos |
| 02:40.27 | abrotman | stoned: you must live far from the water |
| 02:40.30 | abrotman | damog: i do NOT |
| 02:40.32 | gravity | lol |
| 02:40.33 | abrotman | fucking liar |
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| 02:40.58 | gravity | abrotman: He totally just showed you |
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| 02:41.13 | gravity | You'd better go to debconf so you can punch him for making you look bad |
| 02:41.14 | stoned | abrotman, I am a college student, I live alone, I have no food here, I have alcohol and weed and just some junk food and I've got plenty of Roman Noodles |
| 02:41.17 | abrotman | gravity: he's been insisting that i don't like latinos all day .. i have no idea why |
| 02:41.27 | abrotman | stoned: Ramen |
| 02:41.40 | stoned | no, these are Roman |
| 02:41.45 | abrotman | like spaghetti ? |
| 02:41.46 | stoned | spelled Roman |
| 02:41.48 | damog | abrotman hates immigrants! :( |
| 02:41.51 | abrotman | liar |
| 02:41.55 | stoned | I swear |
| 02:42.10 | abrotman | damog: i've explained this to you before .. but you apparently don't understand .. which is not my problem |
| 02:42.16 | stoned | abrotman, there must be some truth to these allegations |
| 02:42.23 | stoned | ARE you a beaner hater? |
| 02:42.25 | stoned | :/ |
| 02:42.25 | abrotman | stoned: nope .. not a single truth |
| 02:42.31 | stoned | j/k |
| 02:42.34 | damog | beaner, nice |
| 02:42.44 | abrotman | see .. but i'm the mean one |
| 02:42.49 | abrotman | sounds like damog doesn't like gringos |
| 02:42.57 | stoned | I don't like humans |
| 02:43.00 | damog | noone does! |
| 02:43.01 | damog | :) |
| 02:43.03 | gravity | I'm not Latino but I grew up on the border of the US and MX... does that make me an honorary beaner? |
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| 02:43.09 | stoned | I've got equal oppertunity hatred towards every race |
| 02:43.09 | abrotman | he just wanted me at debconf to kill me |
| 02:43.21 | stoned | I don't discriminate when it comes to racism, I hate everyone equally |
| 02:43.28 | killown | how to use cisco system in linux? |
| 02:43.29 | stoned | does that make me a racist? |
| 02:43.30 | damog | gravity: it depends on what side of the border |
| 02:43.37 | gravity | damog: US'ian |
| 02:43.40 | damog | stoned: No. |
| 02:43.45 | abrotman | apparently damog really doesn't like me .. but oh well .. |
| 02:43.53 | damog | gravity: I mean CA, TX, AZ, etc |
| 02:43.59 | gravity | stoned: It makes you a misanthropist |
| 02:43.59 | wireddd | I don't like stewpid poeple |
| 02:44.01 | stoned | killown, what do you mean |
| 02:44.02 | abrotman | there's a club .. membership is free |
| 02:44.04 | gravity | damog: San Diego, CA |
| 02:44.11 | damog | gravity: Then yes :) |
| 02:44.18 | gravity | \o/ |
| 02:44.20 | abrotman | damog: if you send your email address to the club .. you can join the club of abrotman haters |
| 02:44.31 | killown | stoned i want learned to use cisco system |
| 02:44.43 | abrotman | killown: aren't you running slackware? |
| 02:44.48 | wireddd | abrotman is that an offical debian mailing list? |
| 02:44.57 | abrotman | wireddd: no .. but i bet damog could get it set up |
| 02:45.08 | stoned | killown, you can try and find a cicso router emulator, check apt-cache search cisco, google around for free lessons or certifications exam preperation etc. |
| 02:45.16 | stoned | killown, there are tons of resources |
| 02:45.20 | abrotman | gravity: see .. that's why i'm not going to debconf .. damog didn't really want me there |
| 02:45.27 | damog | wireddd: we could get it non official, from debian.net |
| 02:45.51 | killown | stoned thanks |
| 02:46.05 | gravity | abrotman: Maybe he wanted to get a posse together to beat your latino-hatin' butt |
| 02:46.09 | stoned | killown, you really didn't need me to tell you to use common sense |
| 02:46.11 | damog | abrotman: I was going to protect you! you know what could happen if you come here hating all the people around? |
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| 02:46.31 | abrotman | damog: really .. i don't .. but you're welcome to think whatever you want |
| 02:46.37 | stoned | damog, enough |
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| 02:46.43 | abrotman | it's quite sad you dont' understand .. |
| 02:46.47 | stoned | abrotman, food man, what should I get? |
| 02:46.48 | damog | :( |
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| 02:47.03 | abrotman | stoned: something with ketchup |
| 02:47.11 | stoned | ugh, I eat my fries with mayo dude |
| 02:47.12 | stoned | ! |
| 02:47.13 | abrotman | gravity: maybe ... |
| 02:47.16 | stoned | fuck ketchup |
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| 02:47.39 | stoned | i could go for a whopper |
| 02:47.41 | stoned | :D |
| 02:47.49 | nima | using irssi how do i /connect to a server with a specified nick? |
| 02:47.49 | lamby | stoned: you're always eating! :) |
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| 02:48.04 | stoned | heh, I'm always hungry man, yet I weigh less than 150lbs |
| 02:48.06 | magyar | munchies |
| 02:48.12 | abrotman | gravity: i think damog actually had the embassy ban me from .mx .. just another country i can't go to |
| 02:48.26 | gravity | heh |
| 02:48.27 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I'm not the king of comedy! |
| 02:48.31 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: duh |
| 02:48.49 | cureless | darn unstable X |
| 02:49.00 | damog | abrotman: you are a taco hater! |
| 02:49.02 | magyar | bleh |
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| 02:49.22 | damog | I think I really fucked xmms and everything around it :-/ |
| 02:49.36 | stoned | man I don't know what it is with people, I have never had sid give me shit, and the little amounts that it does, its trivial to fix, am I lucky or just too much into deb? |
| 02:49.45 | abrotman | damog: tacos are ok .. i still haven't had carnitas or taquitos |
| 02:49.51 | cureless | damog, maybe you should lay off the viagra |
| 02:49.54 | scarynetworkguy | Hehe. |
| 02:49.56 | gravity | damog: I did the same thing to X :-) |
| 02:50.13 | abrotman | magyar: not everyone can use WMP like you |
| 02:50.23 | stoned | magyar, don't start that please |
| 02:50.31 | abrotman | eww .. KDE Krap |
| 02:50.58 | cureless | magyar, I'm with you there. But xmms has it's place. |
| 02:50.59 | magyar | righhhht |
| 02:51.05 | abrotman | i heard KDE takes 38 minutes to start |
| 02:51.12 | abrotman | though .. emacs takes 57 |
| 02:51.22 | magyar | cureless: i tried , but it failed me |
| 02:51.22 | kspath | abrotman: They sped it up that much? |
| 02:51.24 | stoned | abrotman, I heard bandwagons are totally uncool |
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| 02:51.31 | evilgeek | kde takes 47 seconds to start on my machine. |
| 02:51.32 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: I'm not your television! |
| 02:51.33 | abrotman | stoned: i fell off |
| 02:51.38 | kspath | !bandwagon |
| 02:51.41 | magyar | abrotman: on 386 system |
| 02:51.51 | evilgeek | anyway, why are people discussing this? |
| 02:52.01 | abrotman | because magyar is an xmms hater |
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| 02:52.09 | magyar | nope |
| 02:52.10 | abrotman | so we in return hate kde .. seems fair |
| 02:52.12 | evilgeek | i thought this was a channel for discussion about debian GNU/Linux rather than a channel of religious flamewars. |
| 02:52.21 | cureless | because damog was f**ing an xmms and everything around it |
| 02:52.23 | kspath | evilgeek: You can use that but I think this is a valid and useful word. |
| 02:52.33 | damog | cureless: I wasn't, I already did it. |
| 02:52.39 | stoned | 512 MB Ram, 866Mhz PC, SID, tons of services, tons of desktop apps, KDE 3.5.2, runs better than anything I've used. Not slow, not Krappy, its fantastic |
| 02:52.40 | johnsu01 | hm. My .config file has PCMCIA stuff marked with M, but make-kpkg isn't compiling those modules.. |
| 02:52.55 | cureless | stoned, lay off the cool |
| 02:52.55 | stoned | AND, I use a lot of KDE apps |
| 02:52.59 | scarynetworkguy | Yeah, if damog were like a DD or somehting he'd know better. |
| 02:53.01 | abrotman | gravity: i heard you broke some stuff |
| 02:53.05 | gravity | One or two things |
| 02:53.09 | magyar | !sucks |
| 02:53.09 | dpkg | Blow me! |
| 02:53.16 | damog | scarynetworkguy: duh duh |
| 02:53.17 | stoned | cureless, excuse me? |
| 02:53.28 | kspath | !hate magyar |
| 02:53.35 | damog | And now I hate scarynetworkguy. |
| 02:53.42 | scarynetworkguy | damog: Yay! |
| 02:53.53 | magyar | !hi |
| 02:53.54 | dpkg | hello, magyar |
| 02:53.56 | kspath | mtnman: hehehe\ |
| 02:53.57 | abrotman | now we know why noone likes latinos .. they break everything and hate everyone |
| 02:53.59 | cureless | stoned, you're too in love with kde, didn't mean anything more. |
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| 02:54.05 | abrotman | mtnman: thanks :) |
| 02:54.11 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Aye. That they do. |
| 02:54.13 | mtnman | welcome :D |
| 02:54.18 | cureless | hey, watcha saynig about us alteenos? |
| 02:54.20 | gravity | damog: If it makes you feel any better, I fucked xmms for a lot of people too and everything around it in a much wider area :-) |
| 02:54.22 | cureless | lateenos* |
| 02:54.24 | scarynetworkguy | mtnman! Been a while. How are things? |
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| 02:54.37 | abrotman | cureless: dunno .. damog is on some rant about me and latinos .. i think he swallowed the worm |
| 02:54.38 | mtnman | things are great! how about at your end? |
| 02:54.40 | cureless | (other than we can't spell) |
| 02:54.40 | stoned | cureless, no, I am too in love with logic. I don't get on hate kde, hate gnome, hate this and that bandwagon. Everything has its positive and negative points. I don't love kde anymore than I do fluxbox. You don't know me, so stfu |
| 02:54.44 | damog | gravity: It makes me feel only a bit better, thanks :) |
| 02:55.01 | gravity | damog: No one's called out for your blood yet, so you're ok ;-) |
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| 02:55.14 | kspath | !stfu |
| 02:55.14 | dpkg | well, stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 02:55.22 | scarynetworkguy | Not bad. Not bad. |
| 02:55.23 | stoned | kspath, cut that out |
| 02:55.26 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: hippie! |
| 02:55.29 | magyar | !wtf |
| 02:55.39 | abrotman | gravity: stop abusing IRC! |
| 02:55.43 | damog | Heh. |
| 02:55.46 | mtnman | abrotman: are you "big-boned"? |
| 02:55.49 | kspath | magyar: Apparently, there is no wtf now. |
| 02:55.52 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Call an op on him! |
| 02:55.55 | stoned | this is fucking lame |
| 02:55.56 | magyar | eheeheh |
| 02:55.57 | abrotman | mtnman: no .. but i have an umbrella hat |
| 02:56.00 | magyar | bahh |
| 02:56.01 | stoned | there is faggotry going on in here right now |
| 02:56.03 | stoned | fuck this |
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| 02:56.19 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: you want me to call ops on gravity? |
| 02:56.28 | gravity | Oh shit! They're gonna get me! |
| 02:56.31 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yeah. For abusing IRC. :) |
| 02:56.32 | evilgeek | would somebody please fix this situation? |
| 02:56.35 | abrotman | !oops gravity |
| 02:56.38 | kspath | situation? |
| 02:56.42 | gravity | Heh... for using irc when he should be fixing Xorg |
| 02:56.50 | abrotman | evilgeek: /part ? :) |
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| 02:56.57 | scarynetworkguy | evilgeek: pkg_add sense-of-humour. Laugh this is pure comedy gold. |
| 02:57.09 | cureless | what's up with IRC today? it's like people didn't have their coffee. |
| 02:57.16 | abrotman | cureless: or had too much |
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| 02:57.22 | damog | cureless: I don't have any coffee |
| 02:57.27 | mtnman | cureless: well, the moon *is* waxing... |
| 02:57.27 | abrotman | bad latino! |
| 02:57.33 | magyar | is apt-listbugs available for etch? |
| 02:57.33 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Wanna help me throw taco salads at damog? |
| 02:57.34 | kspath | cureless: I do not have a cure for lack of coffee. |
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| 02:57.43 | abrotman | !tacosmite damog |
| 02:57.48 | damog | Heh. |
| 02:57.59 | magyar | !bitch |
| 02:57.59 | dpkg | you fool you're scaring away women. go read HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux at http://www.nmt.edu/~val/howto.html |
| 02:58.00 | mtnman | kspath: the obvious cure for lack of coffee is, um, some coffee! |
| 02:58.16 | scarynetworkguy | damog: That'll teach you to take the day off. :P |
| 02:58.21 | kspath | abrotman: Do not waste those. |
| 02:58.31 | abrotman | kspath: i don't like the FIRE packets |
| 02:58.57 | cureless | has it been like this all day long? |
| 02:59.01 | damog | abrotman: Don't ever waste spicy sauce little packages, I missed them so much in .ve |
| 02:59.15 | cureless | I think it's the X transition that puts everybody on the edge. |
| 02:59.15 | kspath | cureless: no, this started right after you joined. |
| 02:59.23 | mtnman | kspath: more-or-less silly. |
| 02:59.29 | scarynetworkguy | Yay! |
| 02:59.31 | gravity | cureless: That's definitely what's putting me on edge |
| 02:59.48 | abrotman | damog: drink the water instead ? |
| 02:59.53 | damog | cureless: And also, that is the thing which doesn't allow me to build playground-plugin-bmp |
| 02:59.58 | mtnman | gravity: bleeding edge, that is. |
| 03:00.02 | kspath | cureless: I am too dull to have an edge. |
| 03:00.04 | gravity | Pretty much |
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| 03:00.16 | abrotman | gravity: you clearly need more beer/wine/tequila |
| 03:00.18 | scarynetworkguy | cureless: No it's the new "uptight PC crowd" meets the old-skool "people can joke and laugh at themselves and have fun crowd". And they don't quite get us. :) |
| 03:00.29 | mtnman | abrotman: or whiskey... |
| 03:00.40 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah. I haven't developed the alcoholism that's the standard for X developers/maintainers |
| 03:00.44 | gravity | mtnman: That's the winner |
| 03:00.49 | damog | gravity: lol |
| 03:00.57 | abrotman | gravity: HOLY CRAP .. how much pot are you smoking? |
| 03:01.05 | gravity | hahaha |
| 03:01.08 | scarynetworkguy | Ouch.... |
| 03:01.12 | gravity | I haven't smoked pot in... a long time |
| 03:01.24 | abrotman | since you moved from .mx eh? |
| 03:01.25 | cureless | so last week? |
| 03:01.25 | mtnman | gravity: bet you forgot how long... |
| 03:01.36 | magyar | memory short |
| 03:01.48 | gravity | hahaha |
| 03:01.51 | magyar | cant remember that smoked pot last night |
| 03:02.08 | mtnman | magyar: you follow my line of reasoning... |
| 03:02.23 | magyar | i dig |
| 03:02.26 | abrotman | i'm surprised a KDE shiny thing didn't distract him |
| 03:02.40 | _ericb | debian sarge don't come with php5 ? is there a way to get a precompiled package for sarge or do I really require to built it myself ? |
| 03:02.47 | kspath | !php5 |
| 03:02.47 | dpkg | i guess php5 is in Etch but not in Sarge. For unofficial php5 packages for Sarge, ask me about dotdeb |
| 03:02.54 | kspath | !dotdeb |
| 03:02.55 | dpkg | dotdeb is, like, for the latest php and mysql releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/, or but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN |
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| 03:03.15 | _ericb | thanks kspath |
| 03:03.26 | scarynetworkguy | Cool guy either way. :) |
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| 03:03.33 | kspath | scarynetworkguy: LIAR! |
| 03:03.36 | mtnman | ericb: other option is to compile etch source on a sarge system. |
| 03:03.42 | scarynetworkguy | kspath: I am. This is true. |
| 03:03.55 | jnc | with like, pbuild |
| 03:04.08 | abrotman | ok .. who helped someone! |
| 03:04.09 | damog | abrotman: http://www.damog.net/gallery/moblog/Picture_6_001 |
| 03:04.13 | abrotman | !oops .. people helping people! |
| 03:04.31 | abrotman | damog: too many flurries! |
| 03:04.36 | damog | Heh. |
| 03:04.52 | abrotman | damog: can you find a picture from liek .. two years ago ? |
| 03:04.52 | mtnman | abrotman: well, damn the flurries, it was dumping snow here yesterday. |
| 03:05.03 | abrotman | mtnman: no .. the McD's food |
| 03:05.08 | gravity | awww, cute pic |
| 03:05.19 | mtnman | abrotman: i'm not familiar with that sort of flurry. |
| 03:05.19 | abrotman | damog: is ana with you in .mx now ? |
| 03:05.25 | damog | gravity: Thanks :) |
| 03:05.30 | abrotman | mtnman: at mcdonalds .. liek a blizzard from DQ |
| 03:05.40 | damog | abrotman: not yet, she'll arriving on Thursday, next week |
| 03:05.44 | damog | arrive* |
| 03:05.46 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 03:05.50 | mtnman | well, it was a blizzard here yesterday, but not the DQ type. |
| 03:06.06 | damog | On Wednesday arrives the first attendant to DebCamp :) |
| 03:06.09 | mtnman | today i got to ski some untracked powder. |
| 03:06.14 | magyar | !taco |
| 03:06.15 | dpkg | i guess taco is a tasty treat that's good to eat |
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| 03:06.21 | magyar | pink |
| 03:08.15 | magyar | anyone tried to patch the xserver update for sid? |
| 03:08.37 | magyar | !patch |
| 03:08.37 | dpkg | [patch] just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1' |
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| 03:09.22 | damog | magyar: probably gravity? |
| 03:09.24 | warreng | how do i change the mirror that apt-get uses? |
| 03:09.34 | gravity | Yeah, it's fixed in svn |
| 03:09.38 | magyar | there is a patch , but against what, the deb? |
| 03:09.39 | gravity | I'll be doing the update soonish |
| 03:09.42 | mtnman | warreng: vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:09.44 | kspath | abrotman: Night! |
| 03:09.56 | kspath | !cheer gravity |
| 03:10.00 | mtnman | warreng: or use something like "apt-setup" |
| 03:10.12 | abrotman | !praise gravity |
| 03:10.14 | magyar | gravity: hurry upish |
| 03:10.25 | gravity | Just trying to get a slew of updates in together so I don't have to worry about it |
| 03:11.28 | magyar | quantum sucks ass |
| 03:11.29 | magyar | ! |
| 03:12.02 | magyar | dds tools only for 2.4 kernels |
| 03:12.03 | magyar | bleh |
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| 03:17.29 | paw | I've been trying to do a dist-upgrade and with xserver-xorg, I got a subprocess pre-install script error (xserver-xorg failed to preconfigure, with ext status 10) is this a known issue? |
| 03:17.47 | gravity | paw: Yeah it's a known issue |
| 03:17.48 | Serinity | Hi everyone, i need to run windblows 2000 but i don't want to waste a machine for it. I don't seem to have a VT enabled cpu and i can't spend money in vmware... what is the fastest other option ? thanks :) |
| 03:17.53 | gravity | paw: It's fixed in svn already |
| 03:18.08 | mosty | serinity: dual boot |
| 03:18.24 | Serinity | mosty, I'm more thinking about virtualisation |
| 03:18.26 | paw | gravity: so should I wait til I can dist-upgrade or is there a workaround? |
| 03:18.37 | Serinity | is there faster than qemu / |
| 03:18.39 | Serinity | ? |
| 03:18.44 | gravity | paw: Just wait |
| 03:18.51 | paw | gravity: thanks. |
| 03:18.53 | sinoth | Serinity: what in particular are you needing to run |
| 03:18.58 | gravity | paw: It'll be uploaded within a day or two |
| 03:19.01 | gravity | I'm still finalizing a few things |
| 03:19.27 | Serinity | sinoth, a customer's software that won't run in vmware |
| 03:19.34 | Serinity | oppps |
| 03:19.38 | Serinity | wine i mean |
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| 03:20.21 | epsilon | you need both OS sametime on one box? |
| 03:20.29 | Serinity | ... and maybe age of empires... :) |
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| 03:20.44 | Serinity | epsilon, i would prefer, yes |
| 03:20.57 | epsilon | possible with limits, but pain in the ass |
| 03:21.07 | epsilon | won't recommend |
| 03:22.40 | epsilon | you want host system with linux (with crappy emulated environment for windows) or windows (some linux appz available with cygwin)? |
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| 03:23.02 | Serinity | humm... speaking of which... maybe anyone tell me why my 1600Mhz cpu is shown as 800 in /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 03:23.19 | epsilon | HT maybe? |
| 03:23.29 | Serinity | epsilon, no way i get back using windows |
| 03:23.31 | Serinity | ever |
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| 03:24.02 | epsilon | ehh, that what you are trying right now even with pain in the ass |
| 03:24.16 | Serinity | hum |
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| 03:24.29 | Serinity | well... fuck the customer |
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| 03:24.53 | Serinity | I don't think it does HT |
| 03:24.55 | Serinity | lemme see |
| 03:24.59 | Serinity | this worries me |
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| 03:26.33 | brian|lfs | hello |
| 03:26.38 | kspath | bye |
| 03:26.50 | brian|lfs | anyone know why I am having so mcuh problems installing debian amd64 on an amd system |
| 03:27.11 | brian|lfs | its telling me there is no kernel available and there is no security updates available |
| 03:28.03 | zinx | no idea. worksforme |
| 03:28.16 | brian|lfs | did you use the netinstall cd |
| 03:28.21 | brian|lfs | I'll reboot and try another mirror |
| 03:28.27 | zinx | one of them, yes |
| 03:28.31 | brian|lfs | but I ahve laready tried two |
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| 03:28.45 | zinx | you need to use a standard mirror |
| 03:28.50 | zinx | not one of the amd64-only ones |
| 03:28.53 | brian|lfs | is it becuase I have an fx 60 dual core its giving me probs |
| 03:28.53 | zinx | those are outdated :( |
| 03:28.59 | zinx | no |
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| 03:29.15 | brian|lfs | there standard mirrors as far as I know |
| 03:29.19 | zinx | but being a person with enough money to buy one may be a reason :D |
| 03:29.31 | kspath | zinx: hehehehe |
| 03:29.39 | pilgrim | In /usr/share/ssl-cert/ssleay.cnf, there are some values like these, @CountryName@ and @StateName@ and so on. I'm wondering where does debian get this information from? |
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| 03:30.01 | sticky | Instead I get an Intel Core Duo 1.66Ghz ;x :( |
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| 03:32.01 | pilgrim | Or more correctly where does openssl get this information from? |
| 03:32.11 | sticky | brian|lfs: question, why reboot and try a new mirror? apt-get update |
| 03:32.33 | brian|lfs | can't get that far |
| 03:32.43 | brian|lfs | it says there is no suitable kernel image lol |
| 03:32.45 | sticky | pilgrim: did you ever have to answer the questions? I know when ever I do a self signed certificate I just put in all the info |
| 03:33.04 | liable | brian|lfs: ask in #debian-amd64, they may have a better idea. |
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| 03:33.46 | pilgrim | sticky, yeah, but why do it so many times? It seems that you can change the defaults. So instead of having the quesiton: "Country Name: [AU]"; it'd be better to just press enter and move on. |
| 03:34.22 | sticky | True, |
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| 03:34.43 | sticky | Only certificates I've ever had to do were with UnrealIRCd, the defaults in that are New York city, and such |
| 03:36.05 | pilgrim | sticky, I see. However, I'm doing certs for postfix and there is a few we have to do. |
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| 03:38.04 | sticky | *nod*, I wish I could help you with your issue, I probably shouldnt have even responded to your question in all honesty, other than I've always had to manually input all the information from past experience |
| 03:38.25 | epsilon | does anyone actually care what's in the self-signed cert? |
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| 03:38.44 | pilgrim | sticky, nah it's all cool. Thanks for your input :) |
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| 03:39.03 | pilgrim | epsilon, interesting! |
| 03:39.50 | pilgrim | epsilon, I guess the reason I care is hmm...make me feel better?! Yeah, that's right. |
| 03:40.27 | pilgrim | epsilon, but I guess anyone could generate the same cert and it'd be indistinguishable |
| 03:41.28 | pilgrim | epsilon, unless there is a signature that the user can see when the client prompts for an unauthorized cert . Is there one? I haven't seen it yet. |
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| 03:45.03 | brian|lfs | hey zinx I found a mirror that works |
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| 03:55.05 | eric_ | hi all |
| 03:55.19 | SonnyBurnett | hi, is ity possible to downgrade woody? |
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| 03:57.51 | eric_ | I'm currently trying to setup the webcam application.. the webcam driver works since camstream can effectively output a stream of data.. however the webcam application don't work : ioctl: VIDIOCMCAPTURE(frame=0;height=240;width=320;format=15): No such file or directory, and then capturing image failed |
| 03:57.53 | eric_ | any hints ? |
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| 03:58.33 | bintut | anybody can recommend me a software that can transcribe? |
| 03:59.07 | eric_ | babelfish.altavista.com |
| 04:00.11 | Baloo | eric_: transcribe != translate |
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| 04:00.42 | eric_ | oh sorry misread |
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| 04:04.42 | SonnyBurnett | hi do you know is there a "red hat" channel? |
| 04:05.08 | concept10 | SonnyBurnett, #fedora |
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| 04:06.41 | concept10 | License related question. If a project is released under the GPL and I only use the images and css, and rewrite the rest, do I initially have to release my _original_code or just the parts I used/modified? |
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| 04:07.26 | pinky_ | When I first boot after an etch install, my sound worked. Then i installed KDE and restarted my system and now it doesn't. What should I do to get it working? (I have an emu10k1 card) |
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| 04:08.12 | pinky_ | Install ALSA? |
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| 04:12.58 | fbls | is there any program that copies DVD to DVD? |
| 04:13.08 | fbls | like cd to cd, you know what im saying |
| 04:13.42 | Supaplex | dd, the origional ripper. |
| 04:13.48 | Supaplex | s/ion/in/ |
| 04:14.30 | freelancer | I been trying to install/setup dosemu and freedos for awhile today and I just had an idea, why dont I just try and find a replacement program to use, like doh! |
| 04:14.48 | pinky_ | I'm not to familiar with the sound system on GNU/Linux, but it seems odd that it *was* working and now it's not.. |
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| 04:14.55 | dhuv | hello all |
| 04:15.17 | freelancer | hi |
| 04:15.48 | dhuv | I am using the testing branch and recently updated kde. now it seems that kwin crashes often whenever I try to do alt + tab to cycle through windows. is this happening to anybody else? |
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| 04:18.10 | realjimshady | can anyone tell me the "/msg dpkg" request that tells you about reinstalling packages INCLUDING overwriting config files that I deleted or otherwise screwed up? Many thanks |
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| 04:18.39 | pinky_ | dhuv: I just installed etch a few minutes ago and updated KDE, but that's not happening to me... |
| 04:19.07 | pinky_ | You have 3.5.2? |
| 04:19.28 | Supaplex | pinky_: check bts |
| 04:19.32 | pinky_ | And did you install etch beta2 or did you use a weekly image build (or daily netinst install)? |
| 04:19.47 | pinky_ | Supaplex: bts? |
| 04:19.50 | fbls | what is gnome-bin? |
| 04:19.56 | Supaplex | !tell pinky_ -about bts |
| 04:20.19 | fbls | is says: Balance: Miscellaneous binaries used by GNOME, but what is it , what binaries |
| 04:20.54 | pinky_ | Supaplex: You think this is a bug? I mean I haven't installed ALSA yet, I think that will make my sound work... |
| 04:21.13 | pinky_ | Supaplex: I'm just wondering why it worked when I initially installed but not now. |
| 04:21.39 | pinky_ | I don't have the linux-sound-base installed either |
| 04:23.54 | x`y`-xy | how can uninstall phpMyAdmin ??? |
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| 04:25.19 | freelancer | hrmm... |
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| 04:43.09 | freelancer | how to remove programs? |
| 04:43.12 | daaugusto | Hi, how do I to simulate 'apt-get print-uris' in aptitude? |
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| 04:43.17 | Xeppo | I'll probably get flamed to no end for this, but if I'm relatively new to linux, would ubuntu be a better choice than debian for my preferred linux OS? |
| 04:43.50 | unix_infidel | Xeppo: depends, what do you want to do in Linux. |
| 04:44.13 | Xeppo | Bittorrent, movies, games, etc. |
| 04:44.25 | sinoth | Xeppo: yeah, probably |
| 04:44.27 | unix_infidel | what video card? |
| 04:44.36 | Xeppo | ATI x700pro |
| 04:44.48 | unix_infidel | heh, good luck with tht card and games. |
| 04:44.54 | Xeppo | I know, I know... but the ATI card was $100 cheaper than the nvidia :-P |
| 04:44.55 | unix_infidel | but either should do well for movies and games. |
| 04:45.06 | unix_infidel | ati has terrible linux support. |
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| 04:45.22 | striderz | how do I make automake1.7 my default? |
| 04:45.43 | Xeppo | well, I was able to get it running (shoddily) in ubuntu |
| 04:46.01 | sinoth | striderz: try 'which automake' to see where the symlink is, and modify it |
| 04:48.04 | striderz | I thought there was a standard way to do it...just checking |
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| 04:48.15 | johnsu01 | so, after compiling this new kernel, the driver for my network card isn't being loaded automatically at boot. where do I specify it? |
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| 04:48.20 | sinoth | striderz: probably is :) thats just how i ended up doing it |
| 04:48.24 | johnsu01 | (after modprobe eepro100 everything works fine) |
| 04:48.35 | freelancer | should I just rm the directories that it created? |
| 04:48.36 | striderz | I thought there was some way to configure /etc/alternatives and whatnot |
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| 04:49.58 | jeffrin | SMTP connect to localhost failed |
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| 04:50.17 | jeffrin | while trying to fetchmail using fetchmail |
| 04:50.25 | sixter | if an filesystem is not in use, but its mounted, is it possible to repair it with fsck successfully ? |
| 04:50.52 | striderz | sixter: how can you be sure it's not in use? Sounds dangerous |
| 04:51.09 | jeffrin | SMTP connect to localhost failed |
| 04:51.22 | sixter | strider if I mount it read only, so I can safely check ? |
| 04:51.48 | striderz | sixter: I believe that would be the safest course of action |
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| 04:52.31 | sixter | do you know, how to remount the root mountpoint read only at running system ? |
| 04:52.33 | litage | if you've setup a version control system (eg: subversion) and some contributors use linux and others use windows, how do you solve the problem of differing EOL characters? |
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| 04:53.58 | striderz | sixter: mount -o remount,ro /filesystem |
| 04:55.08 | striderz | litage: sounds like a hard one, but one that I'm sure has been solved time and time again. |
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| 04:55.42 | ebrosius | moins |
| 04:55.55 | litage | striderz: yup, i'm sure it's been solved many times before. i just can't find the solution.... |
| 04:56.01 | sixter | striderz : mount -t ext2 -n -o remount,ro /dev/hda3 / |
| 04:56.01 | sixter | mount: / is busy |
| 04:56.32 | sixter | any idea ? |
| 04:56.34 | striderz | sixter: you're trying to fsck the root filesystem? You need to be in single user mode |
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| 04:56.49 | striderz | sixter: and why isn't your root filesystem being fscked on boot? |
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| 04:57.04 | DamianXL | hi |
| 04:57.09 | DamianXL | where does debian save it's log file? |
| 04:57.14 | DamianXL | in this case for the PHP of Apache |
| 04:57.17 | sixter | because its a remote system, and you need to type in root pass to check it |
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| 04:59.39 | striderz | sixter: sounds complicated, but the only way you can gain access to the root fs to remount,ro would be to switch to single-user mode which will probably disable all remote contact.... |
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| 05:01.14 | sixter | I simply write ro in fstab and reboot |
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| 05:07.21 | doms | is their a software tha can remote windows client from ubuntu server, like remote to log-off,shutdown, restart, lock, etc.. |
| 05:07.34 | dondelelcaro | doms: you want to talk to ubuntu... |
| 05:07.45 | dondelelcaro | doms: /join #ubuntu |
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| 05:10.08 | epsilon | which font is the the debian logo using? |
| 05:10.15 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:10.15 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:10.19 | tarzeau | !debian-font |
| 05:10.28 | tarzeau | !debian font |
| 05:10.28 | dpkg | hmm... debian font is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-font/ |
| 05:10.31 | dondelelcaro | epsilon: popl laudl condensed. |
| 05:10.32 | tarzeau | epsilon: for you |
| 05:10.37 | epsilon | thx |
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| 05:11.08 | freelancer | ok i better delete this stuff... |
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| 05:14.52 | freelancer | brb |
| 05:15.08 | mishael | almost time for night-night |
| 05:15.54 | mishael | 1:15 am here |
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| 05:16.52 | freelancer | after 3pm here |
| 05:16.59 | unstable | It's 11am June 30th here. |
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| 05:18.07 | jetscreamer | no it's not |
| 05:18.19 | jetscreamer | it's not even march |
| 05:18.23 | jetscreamer | it's january |
| 05:18.44 | freelancer | lol |
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| 05:18.51 | mishael | is tonight a full moon? |
| 05:19.24 | unstable | jetscreamer: January 1999.. |
| 05:19.30 | unstable | When is debian slink 2.1 coming out |
| 05:19.35 | unstable | Has development been frozen yet |
| 05:19.41 | tarzeau | i hate irc server moves |
| 05:19.42 | unstable | I can't wait for it. |
| 05:19.54 | stew | !tell unstable about siyh |
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| 05:20.28 | jetscreamer | joe is an editor |
| 05:20.33 | jetscreamer | !info joe |
| 05:20.37 | dpkg | joe: (user friendly full screen text editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 3.3-5 (sid), Packaged size: 286 kB, Installed size: 880 kB |
| 05:20.53 | tarzeau | can i join a jabber group discussion with amsn? |
| 05:21.05 | jetscreamer | no you have to use aim for windows |
| 05:21.11 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 05:21.13 | jetscreamer | j/k' |
| 05:21.19 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: where do i get aim for windows? |
| 05:21.25 | freelancer | must have installed it without realising |
| 05:21.42 | tarzeau | can i make amsn use only one line per written line instead of two? |
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| 05:21.51 | jetscreamer | tarzeau: it comes when you install aol 9.0 |
| 05:21.54 | tarzeau | can someone give me his msn address to try? |
| 05:22.02 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: but where do i get aol? |
| 05:22.10 | jnc | ffs! this needs to stop |
| 05:22.14 | jetscreamer | !aolify tarzeau |
| 05:22.31 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: but look http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00334.html |
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| 05:23.04 | jnc | tarzeau: jetscreamer is trolling |
| 05:23.14 | jnc | tarzeau: what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 05:23.23 | tarzeau | jnc: thanks, i didn't notice |
| 05:23.28 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 05:23.29 | mishael | lol aolify |
| 05:23.31 | jetscreamer | lies |
| 05:23.34 | tarzeau | jce: i'd like amsn to only use one line instead of two |
| 05:23.54 | jnc | what is so freaking difficult about typing three letters |
| 05:24.00 | jnc | just joking around here |
| 05:24.07 | jetscreamer | tarzeau: ugh |
| 05:24.13 | jnc | it's plain obvious you hit 'j[tab]' :) |
| 05:24.23 | jetscreamer | i have enough irc servers |
| 05:24.34 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: same here |
| 05:24.36 | jnc | tarzeau: what, you don't like gaim? |
| 05:24.45 | tarzeau | jetscreamer: but you know, i can't tell come to irc.gnu.org anymore |
| 05:24.53 | tarzeau | jnc: because it's gnome |
| 05:25.06 | stew | tarzeau: bitlbee! |
| 05:25.07 | tarzeau | jnc: it always crashed for me. gaim is the worst software i have ever seen |
| 05:25.14 | tarzeau | stew: if i wasn't too lazy |
| 05:25.26 | jnc | tarzeau: you perhaps had a bad build |
| 05:25.34 | tarzeau | jnc: debian package? |
| 05:25.36 | jnc | gaim has been very stable in my experience |
| 05:25.39 | mishael | bye all, have fun |
| 05:25.45 | pilgrim | same here |
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| 05:25.48 | stew | tarzeau: apt-get install bitlbee, /conn localhost ; follow the instructions |
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| 05:26.16 | pilgrim | !tell me about bitlbee |
| 05:26.25 | unstable | pilgrim: /msg dpkg bitlbee |
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| 05:26.32 | unstable | !tell pilgrim about msgdpkg |
| 05:26.37 | pilgrim | thanks :) |
| 05:26.38 | stonee | hmm |
| 05:26.50 | jnc | myself, i insist friends and family have a GMail account, it is easier than loading up an IM client |
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| 05:27.06 | tarzeau | jnc: and use google talk? |
| 05:27.11 | jnc | yes, correct |
| 05:27.21 | unstable | You can use google talk with your browser via gmail? |
| 05:27.25 | tarzeau | jnc: the audio thing of it is broken, isn't it? |
| 05:27.28 | jnc | unstable: :) |
| 05:27.29 | kartik | gnome-panal is worst ever part of Gnome |
| 05:27.29 | tarzeau | unstable: no |
| 05:28.20 | jnc | unstable: yes, no voice function though |
| 05:28.21 | tarzeau | unstable: you can use it if you have windows |
| 05:28.21 | tarzeau | unstable: nor video function |
| 05:28.21 | pilgrim | jnc, where's googletalk without the talk? |
| 05:28.21 | pilgrim | that lame |
| 05:28.21 | jnc | i have a telephone, i use that |
| 05:28.26 | pilgrim | heh |
| 05:29.02 | jnc | family is pretty old school, we don't like emailing when instead we can talk on the phone or plan a movie outing |
| 05:29.42 | jnc | GoogleTalk in the web client is a nice comprimise to send quick messages |
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| 05:30.18 | pilgrim | wow. nmap is a presistant thing. Cool to see the network trafic it creates in a graph |
| 05:30.37 | geckosenator | so I have a computer here with quad 250gb sata drives |
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| 05:30.55 | geckosenator | and I found after much experimentation that raid 5 is faster than raid 1+0 for reading |
| 05:31.11 | jnc | yeah |
| 05:31.13 | jnc | that's well known |
| 05:31.30 | jnc | unless you have a truly insane 3ware card |
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| 05:31.57 | jnc | don't you have less storage capacity with raid5 though? |
| 05:32.12 | geckosenator | no |
| 05:32.16 | stew | jnc: you have it all backwards |
| 05:32.18 | geckosenator | raid 1+0 has even less |
| 05:32.30 | geckosenator | well 1+0 is only slightly more reliable than raid 5 |
| 05:32.32 | geckosenator | otherwise it just sucks |
| 05:32.35 | geckosenator | I don't know why I did it |
| 05:32.37 | stew | jnc: riad5 is slower unless you have a really high end card, and it means less storage capacity |
| 05:32.47 | geckosenator | and debian installer makes it a pain in the ass to do raid on raid |
| 05:32.48 | stew | ugh i mean more capacity |
| 05:33.00 | geckosenator | no raid 5 is faster than raid 1+0 |
| 05:33.02 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 05:33.03 | dpkg | it has been said that tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 05:33.03 | geckosenator | in software |
| 05:33.19 | stew | oh, i've never don't much with software raid |
| 05:33.30 | yoshu | raid 0 is good |
| 05:33.39 | yoshu | not smart though |
| 05:33.44 | yoshu | but plenty fast |
| 05:33.45 | stew | smart is not good? |
| 05:34.01 | geckosenator | i got 180mb/s reading at raid 5 |
| 05:34.06 | geckosenator | and 120mb/s at raid 1+0 |
| 05:34.09 | stew | in hardware raid5 and raid 1+0 should perform similarly becuase you should be able to get all disks involved |
| 05:34.26 | jnc | stew: oh, bad information given to me :( |
| 05:34.28 | geckosenator | well this software is so fast I don't see how it would matter much |
| 05:34.36 | geckosenator | i think raid5 is just superior |
| 05:35.12 | stew | geckosenator: becuase possibly the software isn't smart enough to split a read over both halves of a raid1 mirror |
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| 05:36.15 | stew | geckosenator: which would mean that for a read on a 4 disk raid5 you are reading off 3 disks simultaneouly or off a raid1+0 you are reading off 2 disks simultaneously, whereas a smart algorithm you'll be reading off 4 disks in either configuration |
| 05:36.19 | geckosenator | stew: so it seems, but it does on my other box that is only raid 1 |
| 05:36.35 | geckosenator | stew: right that is what it seems to be doing |
| 05:37.07 | stew | yeah i guess that adds up with the numbers too |
| 05:37.22 | geckosenator | well that is pretty crappy |
| 05:37.28 | geckosenator | there should be a way to fix it |
| 05:37.39 | geckosenator | I should be able to get 250mb/s read |
| 05:37.51 | stew | not 250 |
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| 05:38.06 | geckosenator | each disk reads at 65mb/s |
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| 05:38.33 | pilgrim | OT: Which LDAP server is better, ultrapossum-server or openldap server? |
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| 05:39.21 | geckosenator | so actually this sucks |
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| 05:40.02 | chuby007 | hello !!!!!!! |
| 05:40.07 | stew | geckosenator: uhh 180mb/s is far from sucking. if you really need more, get scsi and a good controller |
| 05:40.30 | pilgrim | chuby007, hi! |
| 05:40.38 | chuby007 | hiya pilgrim ! |
| 05:40.46 | geckosenator | stew: it sucks |
| 05:40.48 | geckosenator | hehe |
| 05:41.00 | geckosenator | stew: I get 90mb/s read on raid1 with crappy ide drives |
| 05:41.36 | chuby007 | hey guys I have a problem with a perl shellbot that entered my server using a crappy copy of phpbb2 and of course a crapy linux distribution ( actually it's not my server I'm working on it ) |
| 05:42.06 | stew | geckosenator: i get 105 with 7 whatever ide drives and a hardware controller |
| 05:42.06 | chuby007 | anyhow ok I detected the problem... it created a perl script that it downloaded over and over using wget |
| 05:42.24 | geckosenator | stew: why so slow? |
| 05:42.28 | chuby007 | and created a .xxxxx file in temp and runs it over and over.. |
| 05:42.31 | stew | geckosenator: its not slow |
| 05:42.48 | pilgrim | chuby007, what do you mean by "a crappy copy of phpbb2"? |
| 05:42.54 | chuby007 | now I did a partial fix... remounting /tmp with noexec no suid... |
| 05:43.05 | chuby007 | crappy.. meaning and old copy |
| 05:43.08 | geckosenator | stew: I want to be able to saturate a 1gb ethernet connection at minimum |
| 05:43.19 | geckosenator | stew: I will have other machines using files remotely |
| 05:43.19 | pilgrim | chuby007, wow. I see. |
| 05:43.38 | chuby007 | anyhow... the worms are erased |
| 05:43.51 | chuby007 | and I have scanned the whole system with kav antivirus.. |
| 05:44.08 | chuby007 | but somewhere... the perl script is still respawning every 600 seconds |
| 05:44.16 | chuby007 | i have checked init.d |
| 05:44.22 | chuby007 | cron |
| 05:44.28 | chuby007 | inittab |
| 05:44.43 | chuby007 | etc... and all are negative the file is not started in any of those places |
| 05:44.51 | stew | geckosenator: then you definately want scsi and you better not be using 32 bit 33mhz pci bus |
| 05:44.59 | chuby007 | any Idea where could it be hiding ? |
| 05:45.15 | lpb-oberon | chuby007: delete the system and get a fresh install |
| 05:45.17 | chuby007 | and how a perl is respawning every 600 seconds.. |
| 05:45.29 | chuby007 | lpb I wish I could but I can't :S |
| 05:45.30 | geckosenator | stew: sata is seen as /dev/scsi |
| 05:45.55 | stew | the point is not the software but the hardware |
| 05:45.58 | chuby007 | the server is not mine I'm just helping a friend |
| 05:46.23 | chuby007 | If it was mine it would have debian in the first place not fedora... and not ensim as a manager program |
| 05:46.25 | chuby007 | :S |
| 05:46.26 | lpb-oberon | well than he should reinstall :) |
| 05:46.27 | BlackJudas | k.. i've run debian for ages... and I'm afraid to admit... I've never understood the two letter codes when I use dpkg -l ... is there a document I can read that explains all the statuses? |
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| 05:46.41 | chuby007 | man dpkg ? |
| 05:46.52 | stew | chuby007: if you are asking how to do a post-mortem on a compromised fedora box, you are definately in the wrong channel |
| 05:46.59 | BlackJudas | chuby007, yeah... some of the stuff I can't find |
| 05:47.01 | chuby007 | lpb... yes i know but the problem is that it's a webhost |
| 05:47.28 | chuby007 | stew no i just wanted some ideas on where else to look for that script |
| 05:47.41 | lpb-oberon | chuby007: you will brobalby more than 2 days to reconstruct hte attack, and than your are stillnot sure to have found everything ... |
| 05:47.55 | stew | BlackJudas: there is a legend at the top. the first column is what you have requested, and the second column is the actual current state |
| 05:47.55 | lpb-oberon | probably need more than .. |
| 05:47.58 | grendal_prime | anyone have any advice on a jabber server? |
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| 05:48.31 | chuby007 | i mean I know fedora is another distrib but basically... all linux are the same, and everytime i have needed help someone here has always helped... so i came... |
| 05:48.41 | grendal_prime | ive installed the packages for one but all i get when i try and connect with the jabber protocol is an error |
| 05:48.45 | BlackJudas | stew, oh yeah I see that. Though ... I can't figure out from the legend what rc is... lemme look at it again |
| 05:48.49 | lpb-oberon | uff - tired:) |
| 05:49.07 | stew | BlackJudas: so r means you requested it to be removed, and c is only config files remain |
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| 05:49.14 | BlackJudas | right so r... doesn't stand for anything in that legend... oh |
| 05:49.31 | chuby007 | stew.. I know how the attack entered the box, I stopped it already... but there's still a perl script somewhere filling up the apache log |
| 05:49.37 | BlackJudas | hrrrm... see that's not in the legend :( |
| 05:49.41 | stew | BlackJudas: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold <- so 4 stanads for, desired: removed |
| 05:49.43 | BlackJudas | oh oh oh |
| 05:49.47 | chuby007 | so wget right now iw wwget :S |
| 05:49.47 | BlackJudas | i see :( |
| 05:49.53 | stew | chuby007: copy fresh md5sums files into /var/lib/dpkg/info for the installed packages from a known good source, then use debsums to find any files which doen't match the package versions |
| 05:50.02 | BlackJudas | I've missed that line for all this time? ;s I'm an idiot... thanks... |
| 05:50.09 | lpb-oberon | BlackJudas: dpkg -l | head |
| 05:50.11 | chuby007 | stew.. yes ! I didn't tought of that ! |
| 05:50.18 | stew | chuby007: check the crontab for every user in /etc/passwd |
| 05:50.37 | chuby007 | do a md5 checksum of the original files... of course ! |
| 05:50.47 | chuby007 | yes crontab is clean.. |
| 05:50.56 | stew | chuby007: install snoopy which will show you every exec call ever made on the system in /var/log/auth.log which will show you who or what starts the scripts |
| 05:51.15 | xerophyte | is there anyway i can turn my labtop to be a desktop keyboard and screen .. because some time i need to arrange for the screen and keyboard for the servers ??? |
| 05:51.32 | chuby007 | ok... that's what i was looking for.. something that would tell me where is something running from |
| 05:51.39 | chuby007 | thx a lot stew ! |
| 05:51.41 | chuby007 | really |
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| 05:51.58 | stew | xerophyte: generally no. the laptop screen doesn't have a standard vga/dvi interface |
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| 05:52.25 | stew | xerophyte: unless you use something like vnc, of course |
| 05:52.29 | freelancer | looks like i got that stuff removed ok... |
| 05:53.06 | chuby007 | thanks.. Im going to do that |
| 05:53.09 | chuby007 | ttyl ! |
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| 05:53.10 | xerophyte | stew ofcourse to troubleshoot a crashed server so ssh and vnc no help i was wondering i can connect the labto p to me screen and keyboard replace ment |
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| 05:54.01 | stew | xerophyte: unfortunately not. i have a bunch of dead laptops with very nice screens |
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| 05:56.56 | Azar | o/t Downside of Multicore http://www.blachford.info/computer/articles/bigcrunch1.html |
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| 05:57.44 | geckosenator | ls |
| 05:57.48 | geckosenator | er, hehe |
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| 06:00.13 | lpb-oberon | xerophyte: apt-cache show synergy |
| 06:00.42 | Azar | that why I never jump to the newest, latest hardware: it has been proven over and over that "latest" is not allways "best" since it was thrown in the market with insufficient testing, and for the turkeys to pay up premium prices |
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| 06:02.11 | Azar | by the time the hardware gets tested and improved, prices go down but turkeys will allways jump to the next untested latest hardware |
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| 06:07.17 | Aerta | anyone know if CD writing will ever work right again under linux or if the linux vs. cdwrite-author feud was totally fatal? |
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| 06:12.07 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, can you tell me a ISO viewer for debian? |
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| 06:13.34 | pinky_ | If I have X configured to start automatically at boot, how do I kill it so I am just at a CLI prompt with no X running at all? |
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| 06:13.54 | bighorn | Can someone recommend software for debian to backup a mysql database? |
| 06:14.18 | pilgrim | Anyone know anything about LDAP? Apparantly, * in #ldap in are sleeping. |
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| 06:14.56 | pilgrim | bighorn, do you know about mysqldump ? |
| 06:16.02 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@tor/session/x-e29785c07cdb229b] by mentor |
| 06:16.30 | bighorn | db's are new to me, can access mysql with phpmyadmin. (godaddy) |
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| 06:17.20 | Azar | pinky_: remove gdm, kdm |
| 06:17.22 | pilgrim | bighorn, well, there is a command that you can run if you have a shell, it's called "mysqldump" and it backsup the whole db. |
| 06:17.32 | pinky_ | Azar: uninstall them?? |
| 06:17.43 | Azar | pinky_: wait,you use gnome or kdm? |
| 06:17.43 | stew | pinky_: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 06:17.55 | cheal | pinky_: it depends on what's starting it automatically. in any case, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace kills X |
| 06:18.15 | pinky_ | I have kdm as my default display manager |
| 06:18.33 | Azar | uh I don't that why I could remove them because I do not use them |
| 06:18.35 | mentor | mmm |
| 06:18.40 | pinky_ | I suppose I could cripple my "default-display-manager" file in /etc/X11/ |
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| 06:18.42 | pinky_ | Would that do it? |
| 06:18.42 | mentor | banlist needs some lovin' |
| 06:19.09 | Azar | I guess you could somehow instruct the boot ... but I do not know how |
| 06:19.52 | mentor | !hi |
| 06:19.53 | dpkg | hello, mentor |
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| 06:20.05 | pinky_ | I think just inputting false information in that file will work once I restart my computer because it won't know what display manager to start... |
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| 06:20.13 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 06:20.13 | dpkg | tetrinet is, like, probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
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| 06:21.05 | pinky_ | Why ban tor? |
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| 06:21.17 | plutonas | #ibmthinkpad |
| 06:21.47 | plutonas | http://shelleytherepublican.com/2006/04/linux-european-threat-to-our-computers.html |
| 06:21.57 | Azar | pinky_: when you boot the system it automatically initiates some processes, kdm included. There must be a way to keep kdm but not have it started when you boot |
| 06:22.16 | Azar | plutonas: that is old |
| 06:22.18 | mentor | pinky_: Lots of spammer and bots were abusing it. |
| 06:22.25 | mentor | pinky_: unfortunately. |
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| 06:22.57 | pinky_ | Azar: I found it. I just need to edit the /etc/X11/default-display-manager file to not point to kdm. Then it won't start, and I can keep kdm installed (theoretically)... |
| 06:23.03 | pinky_ | mentor: That's horrible. |
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| 06:24.23 | Azar | good to have read that article, my next box will definitely not be a multicore. |
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| 06:25.01 | chuby007 | stew... thanks the forensics are done i know who is calling what thank you very much |
| 06:25.43 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:34.04 | dorel_ | how can i check which mb brand/type do i have? |
| 06:34.41 | sep | dorel_, the sure fire way is : open box read on the motherboard |
| 06:35.07 | dorel_ | we need a /proc/motherboardinfo :) |
| 06:35.27 | sep | dorel_, but the most imppotant thing to know about your MB can often be learn from lspci |
| 06:35.42 | sep | dorel_, update-pciids first if you have a new board |
| 06:35.48 | stew | dorel_: dmidecode is likely as close as you are going to get |
| 06:37.10 | dorel_ | ahh dmidecode is great |
| 06:37.13 | dorel_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.13 | dorel_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.15 | dorel_ | thanks. |
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| 06:37.51 | stew | dorel_: you got lucky. its not always that specific |
| 06:39.18 | dorel_ | lucky is good stew |
| 06:40.21 | chuby007 | how can I list all the files that are owned by a certain user for instance ls all files that apache own ? |
| 06:40.51 | chuby007 | ( I can read the man... but you guys gotta know this by hearth :D ) |
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| 06:41.07 | stew | chuby007: info find |
| 06:41.44 | chuby007 | thx |
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| 06:46.44 | chuby007 | find even finds hidden files .xxx files ? |
| 06:47.14 | unstable | chuby007: yes |
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| 06:47.30 | unstable | chuby007: Assuming the . files/directories were created before the last updatedb was run. |
| 06:47.47 | chuby007 | updatedb ? |
| 06:47.53 | chuby007 | wt... |
| 06:47.56 | chuby007 | brb |
| 06:48.20 | unix_infidel_ | heh. |
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| 06:50.31 | unstable | !find.cli |
| 06:50.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, find.cli is a search utility, mostly found on Unix-like platforms. It searches through a directory tree of a filesystem, locating files based on some user-specified criteria. By default, find returns all files below the current working directory. Further, find allows the user to specify an action to be taken on each matched file. Thus, it is extremely powerful program for applying actions to many files. It also supports regexp matching. |
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| 06:54.22 | chuby007 | ok updatedb is running |
| 06:54.44 | chuby007 | I had no idea I tought find was just like a powerfull ls ... |
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| 06:56.32 | sep | chuby007, find is the scariest command ever ! |
| 06:56.44 | chuby007 | i can also make a ls and grep apache for it... |
| 06:56.47 | chuby007 | sep :P |
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| 06:57.50 | Paivakil | hi; I need to know if I have stumbled on a bug in gsm-utils 1.10-9 (unstable) |
| 06:58.02 | Paivakil | gsm-utils has added the line ` gsmsms:x:1003: ' to the /etc/group file |
| 06:58.13 | Paivakil | and I am not able to add a third user to this system; add user exits with code 4 after trying to create gid 1003. |
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| 07:00.49 | elliotf | #debian-arm |
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| 07:03.11 | Azar | if a system has a 512MB RAM the swap partition should be the double amount of RAM ? |
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| 07:04.39 | atsi | hi |
| 07:05.33 | atsi | i installed sarge 3.1r2. i do not have net connection at this pc and i would like to know where i could find the security updates? |
| 07:05.42 | atsi | plz prefix |
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| 07:07.59 | Azar | atsi: with no connection you can't get any updates |
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| 07:08.12 | device | hi all |
| 07:08.21 | device | can somebody help me with testing debian? |
| 07:08.43 | Azar | device: more specific |
| 07:08.52 | device | I have trouble with startup |
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| 07:08.55 | device | It sais |
| 07:09.04 | atsi | Azar, i got connection to another machine that runs windows. i do not want to have internet to the sarge machine. any ideas? |
| 07:09.18 | device | by te way, I made upgrade with apt |
| 07:09.19 | device | and |
| 07:09.20 | Azar | atsi: then you will not have updates |
| 07:09.32 | device | now it sais waiting for root filesystem |
| 07:09.37 | device | and it bootes up |
| 07:09.48 | device | but I have a bash with a few commands available |
| 07:09.55 | device | and I can do nothing |
| 07:10.02 | device | with a 2.6 kernel |
| 07:10.03 | device | but |
| 07:10.20 | atsi | Azar, if u do not know then do not answer. there is a way with apt-get to check the logs and manually find them. the thing is that i do not remember the way. |
| 07:10.36 | device | with 2.4, I can boot , and the system starts, and here I am. but it sais I have an udev problem during startup |
| 07:10.40 | device | so thats it |
| 07:10.48 | Azar | atsi: apt is trying to connect online for updates: you do not have a connection |
| 07:11.05 | atsi | anyone that could help me with apt-zip? i want to manually download security updates and manually upgrade the system. |
| 07:11.14 | Azar | device, when did you installed and what have you installed? |
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| 07:11.36 | device | I've made dist upgrade, and it upgraded a few things |
| 07:11.46 | atsi | Azar, listen mate. apt- is not only online. is locally as well! |
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| 07:11.49 | Azar | device: upgraded from what? |
| 07:11.51 | device | like apache2 , bind9 , mysql |
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| 07:12.08 | device | he kept those packages back |
| 07:12.11 | Azar | atsi: if you have the updated packages in your bathroom, then is ok |
| 07:12.20 | device | but I did a dist upgrade , and he finally upgraded them |
| 07:12.32 | device | I' have a look at the apt cache |
| 07:12.47 | atsi | Azar, what is the prob mate? |
| 07:13.10 | Azar | atsi: sorry I guess I do not understand you maybe someone else can help you |
| 07:13.42 | atsi | does anyone know how to use apt-zip to manually get the security updates? |
| 07:13.54 | device | what is that apt-zip? |
| 07:14.08 | device | I do not have that command :D |
| 07:14.38 | device | Azar, so have you got any idea? |
| 07:14.50 | Azar | device: you have not answered my question |
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| 07:15.36 | Azar | device: what operating system and its version you "used to have" and you upgraded to " what" ? |
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| 07:15.50 | tralala | atsi: it's pretty straight-forward - just as the man page says |
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| 07:17.09 | atsi | tralala, ok. my question is where do i have to go (url) to get the files? as i said the sarge machine does not have net connection. it will moved through an external media. |
| 07:17.59 | device | apt upgraded apt, dpkg, apache2 , pure-ftpd, grub, locales |
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| 07:18.52 | Azar | device, I am sorry you have not answered my question, I cannot help |
| 07:20.24 | device | I did it about 2 hours ago and I simply made a dist-upgrade from testing to testing |
| 07:20.46 | device | and the only things he did is he changes those couple packages |
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| 07:21.25 | device | and from that time, I can not boot with my official 2.6 kernel, because it has a big problem |
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| 07:22.08 | device | so,I hope I've answered you question Azar, but If you need to know something more specific, I will find out |
| 07:22.08 | tralala | atsi: apt-zip generates a shell script that will download everything. You just run this script on a networked machine. |
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| 07:23.05 | atsi | tralala, what is the internet machine is a windows machine? |
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| 07:23.23 | Azar | device, I do not know what operating system you are using, I guess you do not know either, but just for the record: dist-upgrade is not quite recommended |
| 07:23.37 | device | debian testing |
| 07:23.40 | tralala | atsi: you install cygwin there and run the script |
| 07:24.19 | tralala | or you look inside the script and download everything manually |
| 07:24.19 | atsi | tralala, that is not possible. the machine is locked. i can only download. |
| 07:24.28 | Azar | device, then obviously the packages you "upgraded" are not working with your kernel: upgrade the kernel |
| 07:24.52 | teledyn | is this version name a typo? xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.15_all |
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| 07:25.27 | tarzeau | teledyn: no |
| 07:25.34 | Azar | teledyn: sometimes the % represents a punctuation mark like . |
| 07:25.37 | tarzeau | teledyn: %3a means |
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| 07:25.55 | tarzeau | teledyn: : |
| 07:25.56 | Azar | tarzeau :) |
| 07:26.10 | streuner | !info xserver-xorg |
| 07:26.16 | tarzeau | teledyn: : is used for special version numbers |
| 07:26.18 | dpkg | xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 1:7.0.15 (sid), Packaged size: 214 kB, Installed size: 704 kB |
| 07:26.27 | tarzeau | Azar: :) hi |
| 07:26.42 | tarzeau | !epoch |
| 07:26.42 | dpkg | epoch is probably the end of an era. For example y2k was a 2 digit year epoch. The unix epoch on 32 bit hardware isn't until Jan 18 2038, by which time we will probably have all migrated to 64 bit architectures. It's also a very ugly concept used by the debian packaging software. For example: 2:0.0.0 is a higher version than 9.9.9 by itself. |
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| 07:27.00 | device | ok, I've installed a new kernel, I hope it will work |
| 07:27.06 | device | brb |
| 07:27.11 | teledyn | thanks |
| 07:27.25 | Azar | tarzerau were you here when I posted the url to an interesting article about the downsize of multicore? |
| 07:27.34 | Azar | tarzeau* |
| 07:27.39 | tarzeau | Azar: no, show me |
| 07:27.57 | TaF | why cant i remove all the printers in KDE print manager? |
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| 07:28.11 | tarzeau | TaF: #debian-kde ? |
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| 07:28.15 | TaF | yes |
| 07:28.26 | tarzeau | TaF: what happens if you try it? all at once? |
| 07:28.28 | Azar | tarzeau: http://www.blachford.info/computer/articles/bigcrunch1.html |
| 07:29.01 | TaF | well, im just using the print manager as root. i dont even have the option of removing the printer |
| 07:29.20 | TaF | the only significance is a lightning bolt on the printer's icon |
| 07:29.35 | tarzeau | TaF: is this cups? |
| 07:29.36 | TaF | yes |
| 07:29.44 | tarzeau | TaF: why don't you use the cups web interface? |
| 07:29.52 | TaF | dont know how |
| 07:29.58 | tarzeau | TaF: localhost:631 ? |
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| 07:30.17 | TaF | i dont know how |
| 07:30.29 | tarzeau | TaF: open a browser and connect to http://localhost:631 |
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| 07:30.51 | tarzeau | Azar: interesting |
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| 07:31.48 | TaF | it says not found |
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| 07:32.02 | tarzeau | TaF: dpkg -l | grep cups ? |
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| 07:32.35 | TaF | im afraid i dont understand that |
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| 07:32.48 | TaF | im pretty iliterate when it comes to linux |
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| 07:33.01 | tarzeau | TaF: open a terminal, and type in that command |
| 07:33.03 | TaF | im reading everyday tho |
| 07:33.06 | TaF | ok |
| 07:33.06 | tarzeau | TaF: then paste the output in one line here |
| 07:34.00 | Azar | tarzeau: yes, I was pretty impressed, you know what my main concern was allways when I was shopping for a new PC? overheating |
| 07:34.10 | tarzeau | TaF: can you install cupsys and try again? |
| 07:34.38 | TaF | ii cupsys 1.1.23-12 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server |
| 07:34.38 | TaF | ii cupsys-bsd 1.1.23-12 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands |
| 07:34.38 | TaF | ii cupsys-client 1.1.23-12 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client programs (SysV) |
| 07:34.38 | TaF | ii cupsys-driver-gutenprint 4.3.99+cvs20051122.dfsg.1-2 printer drivers for CUPS |
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| 07:34.59 | streuner | tarzeau: hm |
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| 07:35.47 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, I have installed woody on a 486 with 16M of RAM, but it was very very slow, what can run fine in this Pc? |
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| 07:36.03 | tarzeau | SonnyBurnett: telnetd/irssi/screen |
| 07:36.08 | tarzeau | SonnyBurnett: thttpd |
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| 07:36.26 | tarzeau | SonnyBurnett: links2 |
| 07:36.30 | streuner | SonnyBurnett: get a box with more RAM, 16 MB is no fun nowadays |
| 07:36.49 | SonnyBurnett | I know, maybe an older version of debian? |
| 07:36.57 | tarzeau | SonnyBurnett: you don't want older versions of debian |
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| 07:37.49 | Azar | SonnyBurnett: I still have an old DX 486 box, I run DOS on it |
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| 07:38.03 | Azar | donkeykong, pacman... |
| 07:38.05 | SonnyBurnett | do you know where can I get redhat 5.0 or 6.0 ? |
| 07:38.08 | device | re |
| 07:38.16 | device | Azar, I have more info |
| 07:38.32 | tarzeau | yay new openbsd is out! new openbsd release song! |
| 07:38.44 | Azar | :) |
| 07:38.53 | device | It sais, running scripts .... Begin: waiting for roor filesystem Done |
| 07:38.54 | peterS | SonnyBurnett: I'm sure google has a better idea about that than we do here |
| 07:38.58 | SonnyBurnett | Azar, with linux this 486 could be more usefukl |
| 07:39.08 | device | ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exists Dropping to shell |
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| 07:39.19 | Celeste | hi |
| 07:39.22 | device | hi |
| 07:39.23 | tarzeau | SonnyBurnett: you can do webbrowsing, irc and a webserver of it... what else do you need? |
| 07:39.31 | Azar | SonnyBurnett: I have no idea why I keep that 486 box, but I hate to trash it |
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| 07:40.09 | Azar | device, I really have no idea what you did to your Debian system, it sounds pretty bad |
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| 07:40.54 | device | it does |
| 07:40.57 | device | thx anyway |
| 07:41.41 | pinky_ | I tried installing the nVidia drivers using module-assistant and the nvidia-glx Debian package, but that uninstalled gnome and a lot of other packages (libgksu1.2-0, sudo, inkscape, zenity, vino, etc.) |
| 07:41.57 | pinky_ | Or at least aptitude says it will uninstall them because they are no longer being use... |
| 07:42.14 | teledyn | hey guys, apt-get/dpkg got interrupted earlier when doing an upgrade. now when i try to install xserver-xorg it gives and error saying it failed to preconfigure. i looks like the error might be its entry in /var/lib/dpkg/status - there are only 4 lines in its entry, it cuts off after "Status" |
| 07:43.03 | Azar | pinky_: install them back ? |
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| 07:45.39 | nevyn | !ops |
| 07:45.40 | dpkg | Please invoke '!ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
| 07:45.52 | nevyn | meh... |
| 07:46.21 | Celeste | how can I open "webmin" in the Browser after installing? |
| 07:46.25 | jetscreamer | [02.46.18] <RiverRat> jetscreamer: Tell mbishop the gentoo guys said hi. |
| 07:46.33 | tarzeau | !seen pryzby |
| 07:46.33 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'pryzby', tarzeau |
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| 07:47.11 | tarzeau | can i get the db output of all !seen from dpkg? |
| 07:47.13 | jetscreamer | !webmin |
| 07:47.14 | dpkg | somebody said webmin was a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
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| 07:49.51 | teledyn | wow, luckily i had the xserver-xorg package in /var/cache on another box. that package installs fine for some reason |
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| 07:53.14 | nevyn | Celeste: https://localhost:10000 |
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| 07:57.44 | Celeste | nevyn, thank you for your answer! Would you please tell me the username/password? |
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| 07:58.39 | Azar | From now on if you want your software to run faster it will have to be through multiple threads with modified or completely different algorithms. If you do not do this your software will have a hard time scaling or it may even run slower. Throwing hardware at a problem will not be an answer for much longer. |
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| 08:00.01 | atsi | i am looking to get k9copy. unfortunately i can not get the deb package for sarge, only through online repository. does anyone know where is the file? |
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| 08:00.35 | pinky_ | How do I undo what was done with the "m-a auto-install nvidia" command? |
| 08:01.53 | bibe | atsi : can you install it through apt-get install using "deb http://repos.knio.it/ sarge main contrib non-free" in your sources.list? |
| 08:02.09 | Azar | atsi: why don't you get a crossover cable and connect your Debian box through your other, windows box? |
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| 08:02.19 | nevyn | Celeste: umm root and your root password |
| 08:02.37 | Azar | bibe: atsi's Debian PC does not have a connection |
| 08:02.38 | atsi | Azar, i just do not want. |
| 08:03.07 | atsi | Azar, it's something that i have to do without net connection. |
| 08:03.14 | Azar | atsi ok |
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| 08:05.03 | bibe | atsi : download it from http://repos.knio.it/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/kde/k9copy_1.0.3.2-1_i386.deb and get it to the other machine using, say, an usb key |
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| 08:05.15 | atsi | bibe, ok thanks. |
| 08:05.23 | bibe | atsi : but watch out for dependencies |
| 08:05.53 | atsi | bibe, do u know where i could get them all at once using the same method? |
| 08:07.03 | bibe | atsi : I'd do as Azar suggested you (connect your pc to the net through the other PC), then apt-get install k9copy, then store the downloaded .debs on an usb key |
| 08:07.25 | gouzous91 | cd #debian-fr |
| 08:07.28 | gouzous91 | lool |
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| 08:10.34 | I_eat_Midgets | does anyone know how to turn off the downloads on amule? |
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| 08:11.42 | I_eat_Midgets | am i in the right room for questions??? |
| 08:11.50 | peterS | !room |
| 08:11.51 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
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| 08:12.14 | I_eat_Midgets | what ever |
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| 08:12.31 | I_eat_Midgets | am i in the right channel to ask a question |
| 08:12.38 | SlayerXP | I_eat_Midgets: no |
| 08:12.46 | Trewas | I_eat_Midgets: shut it down or have no shared files |
| 08:13.01 | I_eat_Midgets | where is that in the options |
| 08:13.03 | liable | we just come here to watch the nicks scroll by. |
| 08:13.05 | I_eat_Midgets | i cant find it |
| 08:13.06 | peterS | Trewas: he said downloads, not uploads, didn't he? |
| 08:13.06 | SlayerXP | I_eat_Midgets: #gentoo specialises in peer-2-peer questions |
| 08:13.14 | I_eat_Midgets | ok thanks |
| 08:13.17 | I_eat_Midgets | ill go |
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| 08:14.43 | Azar | ...scroll by... nice put, liable |
| 08:14.45 | Trewas | peterS: oh, he had been asking in #ubuntu for a few hours about stopping uploads, I guess I didn't read the question :) |
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| 08:15.00 | peterS | Trewas: perhaps he meant uploads, after all |
| 08:15.44 | Trewas | I'd imagine stopping downloads would be quite easy... |
| 08:15.59 | ssb | is there something like GNU screen, but for X11 ? |
| 08:16.16 | Azar | ssb: the bearded goat? |
| 08:16.41 | ssb | ? |
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| 08:16.46 | Azar | ssb: sorry, was ment as a joke |
| 08:16.49 | ssb | :-D |
| 08:17.20 | liable | how about screen in an xterm?? |
| 08:17.21 | peterS | ssb: probably vnc |
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| 08:17.51 | ssb | liable, I mean, for X11 apps. |
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| 08:18.43 | liable | ssb: what do you actually want it to do? |
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| 08:18.46 | zrin | apparently a sarge machine rebooted without obvious reason - I see "May 2 07:50:20 p2tserv shutdown[27392]: shutting down for system reboot" in syslog. What can I check to find out why? |
| 08:18.50 | cmot | Yoa ll! |
| 08:19.04 | neoxan | guten morgen :) |
| 08:19.32 | ssb | liable, I want to be able to "reattach" something like mozilla if my X crash |
| 08:19.53 | Kilhd | Hi.. is there a way I can make "updatedb" run at a certain time everyday or a set interval of hours? |
| 08:19.58 | liable | whats p2tserv? |
| 08:20.03 | peterS | ssb: there are quite a number of VNC servers and clients in Debian - I'm not sure which are the best |
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| 08:20.18 | Azar | zrin: any application that has a set task to do that? |
| 08:20.39 | peterS | Kilhd: updatedb runs once a day, by virtue of /etc/cron.daily/find |
| 08:20.49 | liable | ssb: but all on one box? |
| 08:20.55 | ssb | peterS, thx. looking into "apt-cache search" results :) |
| 08:20.56 | peterS | Kilhd: if that's not sufficient, 'man 5 crontab' |
| 08:20.58 | zrin | Azar: not that I know of - the server run for months... last gives "reboot system boot 2.6.8-3-k7 Tue May 2 07:56 (02:23)" |
| 08:20.58 | ssb | liable, yep |
| 08:21.15 | Kilhd | Oh, ok, thanks. Didn't know it ran once a day. |
| 08:21.28 | Azar | zrin: the only thing it comes to mind: power outage? |
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| 08:21.53 | liable | ssb: dont think you can |
| 08:21.58 | zrin | Azar: than it wouldn't be a clean shutdown, would it? And it has a UPS... :-/ |
| 08:22.10 | Azar | zrin: the second only thing comes to mind: your little sister/brother? |
| 08:22.28 | liable | ssb: think about it, if the box that screen is running on crashes, screen dies, same with x apps and the server. |
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| 08:22.55 | zrin | Azar: the children of that customer are already out of house ... but, ... hacked server? |
| 08:23.12 | ssb | liable, right. but I'm talking only about X server crashes =) |
| 08:23.14 | Azar | zrin: you can see that in /var/log/auth.log |
| 08:23.36 | martin | hi all, somebody to help me with creating deb package, please? |
| 08:23.48 | liable | zrin: whats p2tserv? |
| 08:23.53 | peterS | ssb: technically, a vnc server incorporates an X server, but it may be less likely to crash than X servers that have real hardware attached to them |
| 08:23.57 | zrin | liable: name of the server |
| 08:24.07 | zrin | liable: host name |
| 08:24.16 | strav | he folks. My shutdown process seems to remain busy when trying to unmount hda and hdb... (this does not occur when I try a reboot) any clue? |
| 08:24.34 | liable | oh |
| 08:25.41 | pilgrim | Does evolution even have a feature for LDAP calendars? |
| 08:25.57 | bibe | strav : try adding 'nolapic' to kernel boot parameters. I had the same issue with an Asus laptop |
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| 08:27.39 | strav | (btw, I'm not on a laptop) This problem started after a little while after updating the kernel to support realtime... |
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| 08:28.41 | zrin | Azar: I see some breakin attempts (only open port on that machine is tcp/ssh), and I see "Apr 30 19:39:01 p2tserv CRON[26054]: (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0)" and "Apr 30 19:39:01 p2tserv CRON[26054]: (pam_unix) session closed for user root" appearing approximately every 1/2 hour |
| 08:29.22 | Azar | zrin: user root is ok do not worry about it, there is some process everyday at same time doing that |
| 08:29.47 | strav | bibe: thanks anyways, I'll try... |
| 08:29.49 | Azar | zrin: worry only about IP numbers |
| 08:30.00 | Celeste | nevyn, thank you very much! |
| 08:30.02 | liable | kernel upgrade to support what? |
| 08:30.02 | bibe | strav : then your problem doesn't seem to be related to local apic... and btw, local apic issues can happen on any machine with a non-standard bios |
| 08:30.23 | Azar | zrin: try installing and configuring denyhosts for dictionary attacks |
| 08:31.01 | tralala | or even better disable password logins |
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| 08:31.17 | Azar | zrin: http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts |
| 08:31.18 | zrin | Azar: I see some amount of "Apr 30 19:33:48 p2tserv sshd[25728]: Illegal user alberto from ::ffff:80.86.82.247", but I have disabled password auth for ssh anyway |
| 08:31.36 | liable | yerp |
| 08:31.43 | zrin | Azar: is that of help If I'm disabling password auth anyway? |
| 08:32.15 | liable | its annoying to have logs full of it though |
| 08:32.22 | Azar | zrin: root over ssh should be disabled, but denyhosts will cut the filling of your logs with interminable attempts |
| 08:32.24 | tralala | zrin: you can't have a dictionary attack without password auth |
| 08:32.41 | liable | !fail2ban |
| 08:32.41 | dpkg | fail2ban is a small python program that runs rules when people fail to logon after a certain number of tries. By default it works with ssh and iptunnel, but can be extended to whatever authentication and access denial system you're using. |
| 08:33.12 | Azar | liable: in Sarge, fail2ban did not work, I do not know about Etch, did not tried that yet |
| 08:33.16 | liable | yah 38 sec lag |
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| 08:33.28 | zrin | tralala: I thought so; Azar: thank you, I think I have to talk to the customers about that reboot... |
| 08:33.30 | liable | tralala: they can still try |
| 08:34.03 | liable | Azar: you can right a 2 line iptables script that does it. theres a good howto on debian admin site |
| 08:34.05 | strav | bibe: just before the unmounting lines, I get two tmpfs busy lines... since tmpfs is ram, I doubt it's related but maybe I'm wrong...? |
| 08:34.43 | Azar | liable: cool thanks I will try it again, even though denyhosts fixed it for me |
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| 08:36.09 | liable | s/right/write/ |
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| 08:36.20 | liable | .. my spelling gets worse ever day :( |
| 08:36.29 | cliche | hahaha |
| 08:36.31 | liable | grammar.. |
| 08:36.45 | strav | bibe: I'll try booting from an older kernel... could it clarify the situation? |
| 08:37.05 | jetscreamer | !kill liable |
| 08:37.17 | cliche | lol |
| 08:37.18 | jetscreamer | spelling tests are really rough nowadays |
| 08:37.30 | cliche | AOL CD? |
| 08:37.45 | jetscreamer | maybe |
| 08:37.50 | jetscreamer | !kill cliche |
| 08:38.01 | liable | hehe, and they get worse when guerin is here. |
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| 08:38.15 | jetscreamer | dang |
| 08:38.27 | jetscreamer | i guess it really hurted hims |
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| 08:38.37 | strav | bah. I'll boot anyways. See ya all. |
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| 08:40.35 | device | Azar, I had no libc6 :D |
| 08:40.41 | device | now it works fine |
| 08:41.21 | Azar | device: glad you fixed it :) |
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| 08:42.00 | linnuxxy | how to install firefox 1.5 on debain 3.1? |
| 08:42.10 | eps | aptitude install firefox |
| 08:42.16 | eps | oh, 3.1 ... |
| 08:42.20 | eps | grab the deb from etch |
| 08:42.27 | device | the Idea came, that |
| 08:42.34 | device | I removed the 2.6 kernel |
| 08:42.37 | device | booted with 2.4 |
| 08:42.45 | device | and when I reinstalled the 2.6 |
| 08:42.46 | Halitherses | which package contains the mail command? |
| 08:42.52 | Azar | eps by using backports |
| 08:42.57 | device | it recommended me the libc6-i686 |
| 08:43.07 | device | and I realized that I had no libc6 |
| 08:43.13 | device | so, now it works |
| 08:43.32 | linnuxxy | so apt-get install firefox will install v1.5? |
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| 08:43.44 | eps | Azar never used backports myself...kk |
| 08:43.54 | eps | linnuxxy what Azar said |
| 08:43.54 | atsi | a silly question, but i am a bit lost. i am looking for program growisofs and i cannot see it anywhere. |
| 08:44.24 | eps | dvd+rw-tools: usr/bin/growisofs |
| 08:44.27 | Azar | linnuxxy: in here, type /msg dpkg backports |
| 08:44.33 | tralala | atsi: /msg dpkg find growisofs |
| 08:44.40 | liable | isnt the sarge version of firefox actually 1.5 anyway?? |
| 08:44.46 | atsi | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.48 | tarzeau | streuner! MAN |
| 08:44.58 | eps | liable I thought so, so I said aptitude install firefox :P |
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| 08:45.06 | CAiRO | when i start my computer, i can only log in as root, because if i'm not root i get 'permission denied on /dev/null', when i change permission of /dev/null it works but only until the next reboot |
| 08:45.07 | Azar | liable: no, 1.5 is a newer version, buggier but looks like everyone wants it |
| 08:45.16 | CAiRO | how's the possible that it always forgets the /dev/null permissions? |
| 08:45.24 | tarzeau | CAiRO: ls -la /dev/null says what? |
| 08:45.30 | liable | Azar: i think the actually backported 1.5 to sarge for security reasons? |
| 08:45.34 | eps | Azar you blatantly don't use gnome...1.5 is a dream compared to 1.0x as the memory leaks are gone |
| 08:45.34 | tarzeau | here i have: crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Apr 6 14:15 /dev/null |
| 08:45.44 | tarzeau | eps: hahaha |
| 08:45.50 | Azar | myself I use firefox 1.04 |
| 08:45.53 | atsi | tralala, well it does not say where to get it. it only says where it will get installed. |
| 08:46.02 | CAiRO | tarzeau: yes, i have there here now to, but after a boot, o= and not o=rw |
| 08:46.06 | eps | Azar why such a old version? 1.08 is out? |
| 08:46.14 | eps | security! |
| 08:46.15 | Azar | eps: I only use it to read text |
| 08:46.20 | tarzeau | CAiRO: i wonder who breaks your permissions. stable or not? |
| 08:46.26 | eps | I use links2 for website text |
| 08:46.30 | tarzeau | CAiRO: what kernel? what /dev ? |
| 08:46.35 | tarzeau | eps: tried links2 with xlinks2 or -g ? |
| 08:46.36 | device | bye now, thx |
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| 08:46.44 | liable | ohnos links2 suxorz |
| 08:46.45 | CAiRO | tarzeau: yes, stable, i wonder that too, udev in /dev/, custom kernel 2.6.16 |
| 08:46.48 | eps | tarzeau no? *me mans it* |
| 08:46.48 | liable | :P |
| 08:46.51 | tarzeau | liable: oh feck :) |
| 08:46.54 | Azar | eps: I navigate through online documents, with links is a bit hard |
| 08:47.24 | tralala | atsi: <dpkg> Debian Search of 'growisofs' (2): (/usr/bin/growisofs) in utils/dvd+rw-tools |
| 08:47.30 | tarzeau | Azar: i love links2 navigation best |
| 08:47.33 | Azar | eps: the little time I have I read news, tutorials and howtos |
| 08:47.46 | eps | lol tarzeau that is cool |
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| 08:47.51 | Azar | tarzeau: if you say so that is a must have, I will install it |
| 08:47.51 | tralala | atsi: so it's in dvd+rw-tools |
| 08:48.11 | tarzeau | Azar: :) ctrl-n/p pgup/dn home/up, arrows and f9 are your friend |
| 08:48.13 | Azar | eps, I only used links so far |
| 08:48.13 | eps | tralala I already told you that |
| 08:48.17 | atsi | tralala, ok then where do i get the dvd+rw-tools in deb format? |
| 08:48.29 | tralala | atsi: apt-get it |
| 08:48.34 | eps | Azar I personally use links2 over links as there are more features |
| 08:48.35 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search dvd+rw |
| 08:48.53 | jetscreamer | then apt-get it like tralala said |
| 08:49.01 | atsi | ok |
| 08:49.12 | tralala | eps: you told him the answer, I told him the way to find the answer |
| 08:49.13 | Azar | eps cool because I am annoyed by banners and commercials on websites... |
| 08:49.19 | eps | it scares me that people still use apt...sure you have to use it some times though aptitude on the whole looks after everything so well |
| 08:49.33 | jetscreamer | dselect is your god |
| 08:49.46 | Azar | since I updated from woody last year I only use aptitude |
| 08:49.49 | eps | tralala you know that is against the rules of this channel... |
| 08:49.57 | eps | Azar heh |
| 08:50.17 | eps | jetscreamer I've only used dselect about ten times...it just...hurts me on the inside |
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| 08:50.54 | linnuxxy | if cant find /etc/apt/preferences which is listed in the backports instructions? |
| 08:51.00 | linnuxxy | i*** |
| 08:51.08 | jetscreamer | eps: yeah. but when apt-get -f install and/or aptitude choke on dependencies, remember dselect. not for the gui, but for the functionality. |
| 08:51.14 | Azar | agghhh I have to shake the laziness and read over the assembly book, I seem I never understand memory things |
| 08:51.22 | pinky | Hi, I just installed etch and my sound is working, but I don't have anything ALSA-related installed, which is what I usually use to get my sound card working. What is it using, then? |
| 08:51.24 | jetscreamer | it's that .001% |
| 08:51.45 | jetscreamer | it's using alsa |
| 08:51.53 | eps | jetscreamer hmm I have a problem that would have solved the other day, stupid me for not thinking of dselect...I'll have to remember that next time |
| 08:52.02 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 08:52.03 | dpkg | fix-unmet is probably run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
| 08:52.13 | pinky | jetscreamer: Was that in response to me? |
| 08:52.18 | jetscreamer | pinky: yes |
| 08:52.26 | jetscreamer | it's using alsa |
| 08:52.31 | pinky | jetscreamer: What did you mean by .001%? |
| 08:52.41 | jetscreamer | no not that, just the alsa one |
| 08:52.51 | pinky | Oh... well APT says the alsa-base package isn't installed... |
| 08:53.03 | jetscreamer | you don't need it for alsa to function |
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| 08:53.10 | jetscreamer | you can install it if you want though |
| 08:53.11 | Azar | pinky is just "held back" |
| 08:53.19 | pinky | Okay, so what *do* I need it for? |
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| 08:53.40 | jetscreamer | why do you want to install it? |
| 08:53.57 | Azar | jetscreamer: since I upgraded to etch, aptitude will allways report me of X , alsa and other packages being "kept back"... I guess that is what pinky means |
| 08:53.59 | pinky | Umm, yeah... I mean can I get 5.1 working without it? |
| 08:54.04 | stoned | hello |
| 08:54.13 | jetscreamer | ah Azar |
| 08:54.30 | pinky | Azar: It's not kept back, I don't think... the alsa-base package was never installed in the first place. |
| 08:54.38 | Azar | hi there mr stoned |
| 08:54.44 | jetscreamer | pinky: think so, not sure, you should be able to or it should 'just work' |
| 08:54.50 | Sonderblade | i cant get national characters to work in vi in a console, they get replaced with \xc3\x85 \xc3\x84 etc. anyone know how to fix it? |
| 08:54.51 | Azar | pinky, it was... |
| 08:55.08 | Azar | pinky you had alsa and it was never removed.. |
| 08:55.22 | pinky | Then what is the Debian package that actually *is* ALSA, if not alsa-base? libsdl1.2debian-alsa? |
| 08:55.38 | pinky | Or is it libasound2? |
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| 08:55.53 | pinky | Those seem to be the two most likely options, as they are both installed right now. |
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| 08:55.56 | dondelelcaro | pinky: alsa is a kernel module. |
| 08:56.03 | stoned | Hey, does anyone know why some flash media is ok, while some crap on the browser. For example, a couple of my schoolwork sites use flash, they won't work in firefox/linux no matter what, only windows, even though its just a fucking flash animation. This is boggling my mind, any word guys? |
| 08:56.10 | dondelelcaro | pinky: everything else is just interfaces to the kernel |
| 08:56.12 | tralala | Sonderblade: language-env |
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| 08:56.25 | oskie | stoned: perhaps they depend on a newer version of flash/shockwave |
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| 08:56.45 | stoned | oskie, I am on debian sid, and I've goto the latest flash packages |
| 08:56.47 | Azar | pinky when I upgraded to etch, then got a new 2.6.15 kernel, I had everything alsa included. Now everytime I do an update/upgrade aptitude tells me about a bunch of packages (alsa included) which I have and work, that are being "kept back" . I just ignore that |
| 08:56.49 | pinky | dondelelcaro: Then why, when I install KDE after a default etch install, does my sound stop working suddenly until I install alsa-base and alsamixer? |
| 08:57.34 | Sonderblade | tralala: installing that package doesn't many any difference |
| 08:57.47 | dondelelcaro | pinky: because you haven't brought up the levels on the mixers until that point. |
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| 08:57.59 | Azar | stoned: flash is like cartoons for toddlers, my opintion. Myself I would not use flash I have a bad feeling about that |
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| 08:58.03 | tralala | Sonderblade: check out the docs |
| 08:58.21 | stoned | Azar, I hope you read the bit about the schoolwork, I haven't much of a choice |
| 08:58.30 | pinky | dondelelcaro: Okay, so why are the levels in the mixers fine when I just boot into GNOME? I mean, what can I use to adjust mixer volumes? |
| 08:58.48 | Azar | stoned: it is so sad the teachers allways prove to be such donkeys |
| 08:59.11 | dondelelcaro | pinky: alsamixer or the equivalent will do it. |
| 08:59.25 | gunixu | twisted |
| 08:59.28 | gunixu | shake it shake it baby |
| 08:59.29 | Azar | stoned: the explanation could be in activeX which firefox does not handle I guess |
| 08:59.34 | stoned | Azar, its the school system, not the teachers, they are in hate of it as much as I am, firstly, math should not be done online, secondly, it sucks because its not just flash, for some bits of homework they requite ActiveX |
| 08:59.38 | gunixu | do the twist. |
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| 08:59.50 | pinky | stoned: Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:00.03 | stoned | yeh, it blows, but hey, I gotta do it |
| 09:00.21 | dondelelcaro | stoned: why is the homework online? What do they do if you don't own a computer at home? |
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| 09:00.42 | stoned | dondelelcaro, free computer labs at school lol |
| 09:00.43 | Azar | stoned: tell the teachers that ms will pull out activeX as we know it because they were sued. So to stop requiring features software can't give |
| 09:00.46 | wobbler | stoned, have you tried mozilla the flash pluggin works on everything ive tried |
| 09:00.53 | pinky | dondelelcaro: Okay, but alsamixer isn't installed by default. That seems odd, a default Desktop install doesn't include a utility to change the system volume level? |
| 09:01.44 | stoned | dondelelcaro, I had to fight but finally they gave me a free copy of XP, I threw together a pc from spare parts and now at least I can do my work, but I wish at least the flash bits would work under linux, I can still use activex bit under windows, but that flash thing is bugging me |
| 09:01.49 | dondelelcaro | pinky: I don't know what tasksel installs these days, but since you could conceivably be using oss or alsa, it's not necessary to install one or the other. |
| 09:02.05 | dondelelcaro | pinky: more importantly, KDE and gnome generally include their own mixer apps which you could use. |
| 09:02.24 | pinky | dondelelcaro: Ah, do you happen to know what GNOME's is called? |
| 09:02.29 | stoned | oh I was just told in another channel that the flash people don't make a FLASH 8 version for linux |
| 09:02.32 | stoned | is this true? |
| 09:02.32 | dondelelcaro | pinky: no, I don't use gnome. |
| 09:02.39 | dondelelcaro | stoned: probably |
| 09:02.45 | stoned | that would explain it |
| 09:02.55 | stoned | I think linux flashplayers can handle upto flash 7 |
| 09:03.10 | pinky | stoned: This is true, but they are working on Flash 9 which has all of Flash 8's functionality, and Flash 9 will be released on Linux and Windows simulatenously I believe... |
| 09:03.11 | Sonderblade | tralala: the package language-env doesn't even support swedish anyway |
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| 09:03.40 | dondelelcaro | if you really care about that sort of thing, help the gnash project |
| 09:03.42 | pinky | sonted: And then there's Gnash, the GNU projects free implementation of Flash, which I hope is doing well. I'd love to have a Free SOftware Flash player/Firefox plugin. |
| 09:04.07 | stoned | there are already some gnu flash decoders |
| 09:04.10 | wobbler | stoned, crossover office is the only thing i know that works with shockwave 8 so there may be a way to use wine but i havent tried |
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| 09:04.49 | Prudhvi | Hi folks |
| 09:04.54 | stoned | wobbler, fsck it, I got an XP box running on the network, I just rdesktop the thing and get my hoobajoob work done |
| 09:04.59 | ssb | peterS, thanks, vncserver is what i need. but it is awfully slow :) |
| 09:04.59 | stoned | I'll wait on flash9/linux |
| 09:05.14 | Prudhvi | When i start a daemon i get this warning : Warning Start-stop daemon called, doing nothng. what does that mean ? |
| 09:05.32 | wobbler | stoned, thats cool at least you can get it done |
| 09:05.49 | stoned | ssb, what reason are you using VNC for? There might be better/faster alternatives |
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| 09:06.16 | ssb | stoned, I'm using it as X11 equivalent of GNU screen :) |
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| 09:06.26 | bintut | hello all.. |
| 09:06.43 | sep | ssb, freenx is a lot better on slower lines. unfortunatly leaving a session and reconnecting is one of the things i fail to do in it |
| 09:06.45 | bibe | !hi bintut |
| 09:06.57 | sep | ssb, freenx caching your vnc sessino might be possible |
| 09:07.09 | stoned | umm, screen == shell emulation(somewhat), how is that related with vlc? you just running multiple vnc's on multiple dislplays? |
| 09:07.24 | bintut | anyone here can recommend an audio application that can possibly transcribe the lyrics sung by the singer? |
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| 09:07.50 | stoned | I mean, not vlc, VNC |
| 09:07.51 | stoned | doh |
| 09:07.51 | torvo | daee |
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| 09:09.32 | ssb | stoned, screen == detachable terminal emulator, (xvncserver + xvncviewer) == detachable X11 emulator, sort of |
| 09:10.10 | stoned | ssb, not quite, although vncserver runs in BG, its not quite an X11 emulator |
| 09:10.19 | peterS | stoned: it's an X server |
| 09:10.31 | Azar | abrotman I just found the explanation to a question I asked few weeks ago and you helped me: free memory seem too low: the kernel tries to keep memory filled up with cached pages so that if those files are accessed again it won't have to go to disk |
| 09:10.50 | stoned | peterS, you mean s/stoned/ssb ;) |
| 09:11.19 | peterS | stoned: no, I mean stoned. you are the one who can't figure out why he is using vnc. he knows alreayd. |
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| 09:11.59 | stoned | peterS, you really think I can't figure out why? |
| 09:12.01 | stoned | jeez |
| 09:12.06 | peterS | stoned: apparently not, since you're still badgering him |
| 09:12.13 | stoned | badgering? |
| 09:12.29 | stoned | wow, you've got an interesting perspective of the world |
| 09:12.30 | stoned | ;) |
| 09:12.36 | peterS | well, the question of whether his solution is an "X11 emulator" or not would hardly be important enough to bother asking if you actually understood what he was doing already |
| 09:13.15 | stoned | peterS, I don't why it would bother YOU so much, when he clearly knows I was just talking, not badgering |
| 09:13.26 | jetscreamer | vote! |
| 09:13.44 | stoned | peterS, don't project your feelings on others, its not good :) |
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| 09:13.47 | ssb | guys, please stop :D |
| 09:13.54 | peterS | !tell stoned about ' |
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| 09:14.19 | stoned | lack of wit usually causes one to do !commands |
| 09:14.19 | peterS | ok, I'll just project my grammar *to* others then |
| 09:14.32 | dorel__ | any suggestions how to backup an entire debian system using dvds? |
| 09:14.33 | stoned | go for it, personal attacks mean shit to me to begin with |
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| 09:14.41 | peterS | stoned: indeed, I guess you'd know all about that. the other reason to use ! commands is to save typing |
| 09:14.51 | bibe | dorel__ : partimage? |
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| 09:15.17 | dorel__ | bibe: ill check it. but i forgot to mention that i dont want to depend on having the same hard drive when i restore. |
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| 09:15.26 | stoned | peterS, you're right, I'm wrong, give it a rest |
| 09:15.38 | dorel__ | bibe: meaning if i currently have a 200gb hd and using only 20gb actually then i'd like to be able to restore it on a 40gb hd for example. |
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| 09:16.23 | bibe | dorel__ : you can simply: 1. use the same partitioning scheme, _or_ 2. restore the images and adjust /etc/fstab before rebooting |
| 09:16.44 | dorel__ | bibe: options 1 and 2 are with partimage? |
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| 09:17.29 | bibe | dorel__ : yes. and when I say "partitioning scheme" I mean partition order (/dev/hda1 is /, /dev/hda2 is swap, /dev/hda3 is /home, for instance) |
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| 09:18.05 | dorel__ | bibe: right. ok thanks. im reading some on partimage |
| 09:19.59 | bibe | dorel__ : no problem |
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| 09:21.07 | vdv | hi everybody |
| 09:21.12 | bibe | !hi vdv |
| 09:21.19 | vdv | I'm using udev. Inspite i put a rule for creating dsp node it refuses to do it. |
| 09:21.22 | stoned | vd |
| 09:21.23 | stoned | lol |
| 09:21.23 | Prudhvi | apt says that i need to activate APT::Force-LoopBreak option how do i do that ? |
| 09:21.26 | stoned | nevermind |
| 09:21.43 | vdv | that may be because some kernel module didn't load at startup |
| 09:21.51 | vdv | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:21.54 | Prudhvi | i am upgrading my system from Sarge 3.0 to Debian Sid April 1 |
| 09:22.00 | vdv | is anybody here who use udev? |
| 09:22.11 | stoned | dude |
| 09:22.14 | stoned | no |
| 09:22.36 | stoned | Prudhvi, firstly, sid is not an upgrade for sarge, secondly, you shouldn't be using Sid if you refer to it as an upgrade |
| 09:22.44 | stoned | not to down on ya, but save you headaches n shit |
| 09:22.47 | stoned | and* |
| 09:23.16 | Azar | stoned: look at the date: :) I guess April Fools is gone |
| 09:23.26 | stoned | date? |
| 09:23.41 | stoned | oh |
| 09:23.47 | Azar | < Prudhvi> i am upgrading my system from Sarge 3.0 to Debian Sid April 1 |
| 09:23.51 | Azar | too late, he is dead |
| 09:24.11 | stoned | in themiddleofabluntrolling, brb |
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| 09:25.59 | stoned | ok done |
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| 09:26.17 | stoned | Linux desktop 2.6.8-2-686 #1 Tue Aug 16 13:22:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 09:26.17 | stoned | doh |
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| 09:27.53 | gunixu | http://202.60.83.2:8000 |
| 09:28.00 | gunixu | little something for the boy's and girls in the chan |
| 09:28.28 | Azar | gunixu: this is a #debian channel |
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| 09:29.25 | Azar | http://www.skynet.ie/~mel/projects/vm/guide/html/understand/node74.html < this sucks |
| 09:29.30 | Ronin | so who's goig to be foolish enough to check it |
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| 09:29.49 | Azar | Ronin: bah too busy with reading documentation.. |
| 09:30.02 | gunixu | Azar: doesn't mean you can't listen to old classics while you deb away :P |
| 09:30.04 | gunixu | terribly sorry |
| 09:30.08 | pinky | I'd like to use the official nVidia driver installer on my custom compiled 2.6.16.12 kernel. Where do I get the kernel-headers for this kernel that the nVidia driver installer keeps bugging me about? With stock Debian kernels I just got the kernel-headers package, but with a custom kernel what do I do? |
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| 09:30.22 | Azar | gunixu: music irritates me when I read |
| 09:30.33 | mark___ | hi there. anyone here have any advice to offer about partitioning schemes on boxes with raid arrays |
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| 09:31.37 | dorel__ | bibe: from what im reading partimage is just tar/gzing up / (root mount point) |
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| 09:31.57 | gunixu | Azar: terribly sorry |
| 09:32.07 | cliche | hi |
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| 09:32.42 | bibe | dorel__ : you can tar/gzing all your partitions |
| 09:32.57 | tombs | hi all |
| 09:33.10 | panthera | pinky: with custom kernels, you have build them on your own. if you forgot, you have to rebuild the image.. |
| 09:33.29 | panthera | pinky: preferably you want to use make-kpkg in the future |
| 09:33.48 | panthera | (read man make-kpkg /kernel_headers) |
| 09:34.09 | cliche | is xorg 7.0 good? |
| 09:34.16 | panthera | buggy. |
| 09:34.20 | cliche | lol |
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| 09:34.39 | cliche | so, xfree > xorg? |
| 09:34.39 | wizzo | Good for developers. :) |
| 09:34.48 | wizzo | Not really.. |
| 09:34.49 | azeem | cliche: no |
| 09:34.54 | wizzo | Depending on the version |
| 09:34.56 | gunixu | Azar: that's unfortunate tis a classic. By by miss american pie, da da da da |
| 09:34.58 | azeem | cliche: X11R6 > X11R7 for now |
| 09:35.09 | cliche | I thought the xorg is a trick |
| 09:35.17 | azeem | cliche: huh? |
| 09:35.25 | gunixu | imagine me and you |
| 09:35.26 | gunixu | i do |
| 09:35.30 | cliche | the key is... control |
| 09:35.58 | wizzo | cliche is speaking in riddles obviously. |
| 09:36.06 | cliche | ... |
| 09:36.10 | wizzo | Is it... a duck? |
| 09:36.18 | cliche | xorg? |
| 09:36.24 | cliche | sure |
| 09:36.32 | cliche | hahahaha |
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| 09:36.42 | superlinux | hi all |
| 09:36.49 | azeem | cliche: is this about Debian? |
| 09:36.50 | cliche | lo nibble |
| 09:36.53 | wizzo | I think xorg is alot faster then xfree |
| 09:37.06 | cliche | in my case, no |
| 09:37.10 | superlinux | I have finished downloading a CBT nuggets CD from mule |
| 09:37.12 | cliche | not at all |
| 09:37.25 | cliche | at least, on the linux/bsd |
| 09:37.28 | pinky | panthera: I haven't actually done it yet, and I plan on using make-kpkg... |
| 09:37.31 | wizzo | For me it is anyway |
| 09:37.40 | superlinux | good for bigginners althu it uses RH7.1 |
| 09:37.45 | superlinux | or RH9 |
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| 09:38.00 | cliche | wizzo, did you compile your own xorg/xfree? |
| 09:38.16 | pinky | panthera: But if I *do* use make-kpkg will the kernel-headers directory in /usr/src/ be generated automatically so the Nvidia drivers installer will not complain and subsequently fail? |
| 09:38.17 | wizzo | I have on Gentoo. I wouldn't again though. |
| 09:38.18 | cliche | wizzo, + fine-turning? |
| 09:38.24 | wizzo | That takes WAY too long. |
| 09:38.41 | wizzo | But I guess that changes a little with xorg7 |
| 09:39.03 | wizzo | Maybe the USE flags did some fine tuning, but I sure didn't. |
| 09:39.09 | pinky | panthera: I mean that's what the Nvidia installer looks for, right? The kernel-headers directory in /usr/src/? I seem to recall having to install the Debian kernel-headers package for my kernel version to get the installer working properly. |
| 09:39.13 | azeem | recompiling parts of it is much easier, but doing the whole probably not |
| 09:39.15 | wizzo | Aside from you know, not using vesa drivers. |
| 09:40.01 | wizzo | That would be true. |
| 09:40.13 | wizzo | Although you don't need everything at first when it's modularized. |
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| 09:40.22 | wizzo | That seems to cute the filesize in half at least. |
| 09:40.24 | cliche | whatever using vesafb or native drivers, xorg !> xfree |
| 09:41.15 | panthera | pinky: if you have a probler kernel-headers (or linux-headers) package installed matching your running kernel version, nvidia installer will detect it. |
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| 09:41.51 | panthera | pinky: otherwise you can always specify it manually via parameters (look at the docs, it's somewhere written, don't know it literally though) |
| 09:42.01 | wizzo | A didn't think a kernel you compiled yourself even needed headers? O.o |
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| 09:42.20 | cliche | O.o |
| 09:42.35 | wizzo | O.o |
| 09:43.08 | cliche | kernel doesn't need the /usr/include |
| 09:43.10 | wizzo | SNAKES! On a plane! |
| 09:43.27 | pinky | panthera: Right, but my issue is the Debian kernel-headers package would only work for stock kernels. If I choose to make my own using make-kpkg, where would I get the kernel-headers diretory for that kernel from? |
| 09:43.49 | panthera | pinky: read man make-kpkg /kernel_headers |
| 09:44.08 | panthera | pinky: you *build* a respective kernel-headers package with make-kpkg.. |
| 09:44.16 | panthera | s/a /the / |
| 09:44.23 | cliche | but the system program does |
| 09:44.37 | cliche | iirc |
| 09:45.05 | Trent- | apt-get install xorg-x11 i keep getting package not found? |
| 09:45.21 | azeem | Trent-: try apt-get install xorg or apt-get install x-window-system |
| 09:45.21 | pinky | panthera: Okay, I see. I guess I should just read all of the make-kpkg documentation then. |
| 09:45.30 | Trent- | okt hanks |
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| 09:46.07 | pinky | panthera: Just to be sure though, that's all the Nvidia installer needs? The kernel source tree in /usr/src/ and the resective kernel-headers directory alongside it? |
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| 09:47.32 | ddj | hi |
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| 09:47.34 | panthera | pinky: no, only the kernel-headers. |
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| 09:48.09 | panthera | pinky: and btw, you know that there are nvidia packages in debian which boil it down to a single command |
| 09:48.19 | panthera | pinky: to build the driver package for. |
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| 09:49.17 | pinky | panthera: Yeah, I know, I had bad experiences installing the nVidia drivers the Debian way. They're out of date, too. |
| 09:49.32 | panthera | pinky: no |
| 09:49.47 | pinky | panthera: I don't mind rerunning the nVidia installer everytime I rebuild a new kernel, which seems to be the only downside. |
| 09:50.09 | panthera | pinky: you can use the ones from sid (they are at the most current version atm) if you have a recent enough kernel version running.. |
| 09:50.24 | panthera | anyway, afk now.. |
| 09:50.33 | pinky | panthera: thanks though |
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| 09:51.53 | xomhau | hi all |
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| 09:53.33 | oskie | anyone know why ogle gives my black screen with nvidia drivers unless I use OGLE_USE_XV=0? |
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| 09:55.19 | nomin | what is the username and password for the debian live cd? |
| 09:55.32 | liable | what debian live cd? |
| 09:55.43 | jethro | @annoy liable |
| 09:55.44 | ravenbird | liable: Oooooh, aaah, Hmmm???? |
| 09:56.03 | nomin | I dont know what version. I think its the latest one. |
| 09:56.15 | liable | jethro: you remebered the right bot this time :) |
| 09:56.19 | nomin | I cant log in |
| 09:56.27 | jethro | nomin: there is no debian live cd as far as I can tell |
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| 09:56.38 | jethro | or at least no official one |
| 09:56.49 | liable | nomin: where did you get it? |
| 09:56.51 | nomin | oh! for gods sake... |
| 09:57.01 | nomin | http://live.debian.net/ |
| 09:57.19 | liable | well excuse me.. |
| 09:57.23 | nomin | it is telling me to login with a username and password |
| 09:57.38 | apenguinlinux | hi i have applied for DD so my question is a existing DD has sign my key so he will advocate my apllicaton or somebody else |
| 09:57.38 | nomin | no linux live cd tell me to do this |
| 09:57.39 | azeem | nomin: did you try #debian-live on oftc? |
| 09:58.24 | cmot | apenguinlinux, to be exact: preferably, two DD have to sign your key. |
| 09:58.44 | nomin | I just want to see what debian is all about. I didn't know I would have to go through this kind of stuff just to try it out. |
| 09:58.53 | apenguinlinux | cmot, one has done it , |
| 09:59.06 | azeem | nomin: well, this LiveCD is quite new, not many people in here know it |
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| 09:59.11 | azeem | panthera: can you help nomin? |
| 09:59.18 | liable | nomin: wow, you win the "cant even read a faq award" for today. |
| 09:59.22 | nomin | azeem, that makes a lot of sense |
| 09:59.28 | azeem | liable: please |
| 09:59.29 | nomin | I think debian live is new |
| 09:59.42 | cmot | apenguinlinux, much more important for becoming DD: did you already do some work for Debian? Packaging? Something else? |
| 09:59.51 | liable | azeem: well, dude, i just found out about it, and had the info in 20 seconds.... |
| 10:00.03 | apenguinlinux | cmot, yes |
| 10:00.09 | cmot | Good :-) |
| 10:00.11 | azeem | nomin: http://live.debian.net/wiki/FAQ |
| 10:00.13 | apenguinlinux | cmot, just wait |
| 10:00.42 | azeem | liable: you're great |
| 10:00.58 | liable | azeem: dont be sarcastic |
| 10:01.09 | tarzeau | cmot: hey! |
| 10:01.18 | cmot | tarzeau, Yo! :-) |
| 10:01.20 | azeem | liable: I posted the URL, I can be |
| 10:01.28 | azeem | you just made a useless statement |
| 10:01.30 | nomin | I still dont see any username and password for the debian live cd |
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| 10:01.38 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:01.51 | cmot | tarzeau, ... and bye again (food calls!) |
| 10:01.55 | tarzeau | cmot: en guete |
| 10:01.57 | nomin | i tried "debian" |
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| 10:02.09 | nomin | it works for the username but not the password |
| 10:02.26 | azeem | nomin: I don't think we can help you further then |
| 10:02.28 | jethro | how can it 'work for the username' ? |
| 10:02.29 | nomin | I'll try again |
| 10:02.30 | gary_ | Does anyone know how to find out if the IP in /etc/resolv.conf is a proxy server or a dirrect internet connection? |
| 10:02.44 | gary_ | traceroute or something? |
| 10:02.45 | tarzeau | gary_: telnet linuks.mine.nu 65535 |
| 10:02.50 | liable | azeem: y useless statement led to the fact that the info was in the faq, so although sarcastic, did actually help. |
| 10:02.52 | gary_ | thanks |
| 10:02.54 | nomin | I think there should be no username password stuff on a live cd |
| 10:03.16 | azeem | nomin: it's a work in progress |
| 10:03.38 | liable | nomin: why not leave a suggestion/request to the devs. |
| 10:03.38 | tarzeau | gary_: then compare the ip to your local one |
| 10:04.51 | nomin | I do think the debian live cd is a work in progress. I hope the debian live cd can also be use as an installation cd. I would like to try it out. I have ubuntu but I would prefer a stable installation. |
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| 10:07.13 | tarzeau | nomin: there's debootstrap until there's a live cd debian release |
| 10:08.07 | gary_ | tarzeau: hmm, I have a local IP, 10.0.0.174 and the resolve.conf IP is something like 194.72.x.x and the external IP is 217.x.x.x. I basically want to work out if it is logging internet websites |
| 10:08.18 | tarzeau | gary_: you know waht resolv.conf is for? |
| 10:08.28 | gary_ | If it is, then I may get sacked :-) The amount of surfing I do that is non-work related |
| 10:08.33 | tarzeau | gary_: you can't be sure if someone logs your network traffic |
| 10:08.45 | gary_ | tarzeau: I thought it was the IP it goes to to get to the internet |
| 10:08.45 | tarzeau | gary_: then don't do it. or do it encrypted |
| 10:08.52 | tarzeau | gary_: no man 5 resolv.conf |
| 10:09.21 | scytheman | are there free pdf viewers for filling out forms? or is only the acrobat reader able to do that? |
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| 10:09.55 | liable | gary_: you dont really have any way to tell if they are sniffing your traffic, but if they are, they prolly arent worth working for anyway |
| 10:10.00 | yos87 | hi |
| 10:10.15 | gary_ | liable: haha |
| 10:10.24 | gary_ | liable: It's a small company, about 8 or 9 of us |
| 10:10.27 | yos87 | Is there yahoo messenger in Debian?\ |
| 10:10.47 | gary_ | yos87: I believe GAIM allows you to connect to the yahoo network |
| 10:10.53 | liable | gary_: chances are they have better things to do then :) |
| 10:11.09 | yos87 | liable: how are you? |
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| 10:11.33 | liable | yos87: well thanks. have been on a little working holiday |
| 10:11.41 | jethro | liable: one can detect an interface being in promisc mode most of the time :p |
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| 10:12.10 | liable | jethro: but not if the sniff it at a hub or whatever |
| 10:12.12 | martin | is this somebody to help with creating deb package, please? |
| 10:12.13 | yos87 | liable: I'm Pretty Good ! I just back from the hospital |
| 10:12.23 | liable | yos87: have a baby? :) |
| 10:12.29 | jethro | liable: hu? care to detail that? |
| 10:12.43 | liable | jethro: no, i just made it up. |
| 10:13.17 | yos87 | liable: I cut my finger by nife, a mistake, I lost a lot of blood ! |
| 10:13.44 | liable | yos87: bugger. you get to keep the finger? |
| 10:14.40 | gary_ | liable: cool, so if I get sacked I'll blame you? ;-) |
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| 10:14.59 | yos87 | liable: not totlly cut, bit it's deep! I say "CUT" because I'm not native language, there maybe an althernative for cut |
| 10:15.24 | liable | gary_: certainly. and i thank you for not saying you will hold me liable :) |
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| 10:16.38 | liable | yos87: yeah, cut is prolly the best word. |
| 10:17.09 | yos87 | liable: Thanks |
| 10:19.43 | yos87 | gary_: but gaim is not nice, and no more option ! |
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| 10:21.26 | yos87 | gary_: apt-get install ayttm? |
| 10:22.42 | yos87 | gary_: also not nice ! |
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| 10:24.31 | nomin | cant someone just make it easy for me and tell me the username and password for the debian live cd? |
| 10:25.15 | zu22 | ! |
| 10:25.17 | nix | there is a live cd? |
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| 10:25.25 | jethro | nomin: come on, you've been given pointers to their wiki and irc chan, try to find the info there. |
| 10:25.48 | nomin | ok |
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| 10:26.16 | marco13185 | when I run powerpoint through wine, powerpoint quits on me saying that it wasn't installed for this user |
| 10:26.20 | marco13185 | how can I fix that? |
| 10:26.33 | jethro | marco13185: ask #winehq |
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| 10:26.41 | marco13185 | thanks |
| 10:26.57 | ekik | Is there a way to get the current kernel config (I haven't got /proc/config) ? |
| 10:27.05 | liable | marco13185: any reason for not using oo? |
| 10:27.09 | sep | ekik, /boot/config- |
| 10:27.15 | jethro | ekik: try /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 10:27.26 | marco13185 | liable, I love OO, but powerpoint is still a little better |
| 10:27.37 | ekik | Ah, thanks sep and jethro! |
| 10:27.38 | liable | marco13185: fair nough |
| 10:28.00 | SerajewelKS | marco13185: i've not found anything better about powerpoint |
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| 10:28.57 | marco13185 | SerajewelKS, powerpoint lets me print the presentation in several ways |
| 10:29.08 | marco13185 | in OO I can only print one slide per sheet |
| 10:29.13 | marco13185 | and no note pages |
| 10:29.14 | marco13185 | :( |
| 10:29.28 | SerajewelKS | marco13185: ah, i don't usually print my presentations |
| 10:29.30 | jind | korganizer does not start and trying to do so from a terminal print out this error message: |
| 10:29.32 | jind | korganizer: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkorganizer_calendar.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN4KCal17CalendarResources16rawEventsForDateERK5QDateb |
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| 10:30.08 | jind | I have tried to upgrade the package but it does not work anyway |
| 10:30.10 | SerajewelKS | marco13185: though i really love the export-to-pdf function of impress |
| 10:30.37 | yang | is it possible to encrypt a whole directory with gpg ? |
| 10:30.44 | jind | Does anybody have a fix or perhaps know of a website describing how to fix it? |
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| 10:32.36 | stoned | oh man, beef jerky is the shit |
| 10:32.51 | streuner | no, gnome-control-cups! |
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| 10:33.10 | streuner | it alters files and you cannot find them... |
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| 10:35.36 | streuner | !fuck gnome-control-cups for altering files and not be able to remove them in order to print in gtk-based apps |
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| 10:36.24 | liable | jind: the bts is probably a good starting point |
| 10:36.40 | jind | What is the bts? |
| 10:36.41 | liable | !hi |
| 10:36.41 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 10:37.01 | sep | !tell jind about bts |
| 10:37.03 | liable | jind: http://bugs.debian.org |
| 10:37.26 | jind | Aha. So it's a bug |
| 10:37.28 | jind | Alright |
| 10:37.31 | jind | I'll file it |
| 10:37.37 | liable | jind: possibly |
| 10:38.16 | Knight_Lord | Can anyone help me use fftw_plan_guru_split_dft? I'm getting a very weird segmentation fault |
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| 10:39.13 | streuner | !info gnome-cups-manager |
| 10:39.20 | dpkg | gnome-cups-manager: (CUPS printer admin tool for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.31-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 1628 kB |
| 10:40.03 | liable | that bloats out once installed. |
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| 10:43.48 | Halitherses | my cron daemon is generating the following error: |
| 10:44.12 | Halitherses | /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: line 826: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp |
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| 10:44.19 | Halitherses | how can i fix it? |
| 10:44.34 | Halitherses | what is sendmail-msp? |
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| 10:46.20 | Henk | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.33 | streuner | liable: if you install gnome-cups-manager, what are the preferences for that? printout-mode? |
| 10:47.25 | Shadowcat | hmm |
| 10:47.26 | liable | streuner: i dont know. i dont have gnome. sorry. |
| 10:47.34 | Shadowcat | this XOrg 7 breakage list |
| 10:47.34 | pinky | Why isn't there a VLC packages in the testing release right now, but there's one in both stable and unstable? |
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| 10:47.42 | streuner | liable: you can use it without running gnome |
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| 10:47.48 | Shadowcat | I assume there's been a paradigm shift in how the packages are organized |
| 10:48.00 | Shadowcat | or is it just gravity that just hasn't gotten along to fixing it all? |
| 10:48.03 | stoned | !tell pinky about simple sid backport |
| 10:48.05 | streuner | pinky: /msg dpkg why is vlc not in testing |
| 10:48.13 | liable | streuner: i am in a hotel on dial up tonight, wont be home till tomorrow. |
| 10:48.21 | pinky | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:48.22 | streuner | stoned: i doubt that vlc is that simple |
| 10:48.25 | Halitherses | !sendmail-msp |
| 10:48.32 | stoned | streuner, I dun it, it is |
| 10:48.33 | streuner | liable: oh, thanks anyway |
| 10:48.38 | stoned | done* |
| 10:48.40 | streuner | well |
| 10:48.47 | streuner | !info vlc |
| 10:48.47 | pinky | I'm using etch... |
| 10:48.53 | dpkg | vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.5-test3.debian-3 (sid), Packaged size: 5663 kB, Installed size: 13880 kB |
| 10:49.13 | streuner | why not using mplayer or xine? |
| 10:49.21 | stoned | mplayer is the shiznizzle |
| 10:49.30 | streuner | ok, try xine then |
| 10:49.43 | stoned | xine is also the shiz nizzle |
| 10:50.01 | liable | is shiz nizzle good?? |
| 10:50.04 | stoned | its gstreamer that makes me wanna pull my hair out |
| 10:50.07 | stoned | liable, yes |
| 10:50.15 | stoned | very good, beyond good |
| 10:50.20 | liable | ah, thought so, just checking :) |
| 10:50.31 | geckosenator | thats because your stoned |
| 10:50.37 | liable | you young kids with your new words :P |
| 10:50.47 | stoned | liable, dude I've got grandkids |
| 10:50.51 | liable | haha |
| 10:50.57 | stoned | liable, no I'm kidding, im 25 only |
| 10:50.58 | stoned | hehe |
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| 10:51.18 | streuner | liable: that's why, he learned it somewhere... ;-) |
| 10:51.19 | liable | stoned: was gonna say, your a pretty fucking hip grandpa :) |
| 10:52.01 | stoned | liable, I will be one day, I'll be a stoner grandpa who likes death metal |
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| 10:52.50 | stoned | my grandchildrens friends would say, oh man, you're grandpa plays death metal and stu |
| 10:52.55 | stoned | hehe, nevermind |
| 10:53.07 | Shadowcat | sigh |
| 10:53.21 | Shadowcat | there have almost been as many releases of 2.6.16 as 2.6 major kernels |
| 10:53.31 | Shadowcat | what the hell did they break |
| 10:53.34 | liable | whats it up to? |
| 10:53.40 | Shadowcat | .12 |
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| 10:53.59 | Shadowcat | liable: any news on the XOrg 7 front? |
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| 10:54.14 | Shadowcat | i.e. is gravity gonna fix that long list of breakages or not? :P |
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| 10:55.01 | liable | Shadowcat: i have been on dialup for a week, havent upgraded, but he said he was gonna upload in a day or two. but theres a patch looks like for the error 10 problem on bts |
| 10:55.20 | Shadowcat | ok, in other words, wait |
| 10:55.24 | Shadowcat | that's all I wanted to know |
| 10:55.25 | liable | yep |
| 10:55.33 | Shadowcat | because if it was a permanent shift I'd go ahead and u |
| 10:55.36 | Shadowcat | upgrade* |
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| 10:57.47 | sphex | hi there. in what /etc file should I specific my static routes? |
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| 10:58.45 | liable | which routes? |
| 10:59.48 | sphex | liable: route to a another LAN and the default route |
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| 11:00.32 | liable | sphex: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 11:01.27 | wdamn | Hi, I still getting this error while I try to update any package |
| 11:01.29 | wdamn | E: Internal Error, Couldn't configure a pre-depend |
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| 11:05.07 | liable | wdamn: more info paste the errors to a pastebot. |
| 11:05.35 | sphex | liable: hrm. can't find how to specify routes in interfaces(5)... |
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| 11:05.56 | liable | sphex: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz |
| 11:06.05 | liable | sphex: and man route |
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| 11:07.44 | sphex | liable: hmm. ok so I should do it as a script triggered when certain interfaces go up? |
| 11:08.38 | liable | sphex: it can all be done from interfaces file. what exactly are you trying to do> |
| 11:08.42 | liable | ?? |
| 11:08.58 | sphex | liable: just add static routes |
| 11:09.07 | sphex | but that file seems to contain examples for just that |
| 11:09.08 | sphex | thanks! |
| 11:09.33 | martin | please help with deb package |
| 11:09.47 | TheAnalyst | greetings, I have searched for some number of hours trying to find out how to find out (a) is agp enabled and working (b) if not, how do I cause this to happen? ... card is a riva128zx, 8mb, unstable dist, 2.4 kernel with via and agpgart modules both loaded at boot time |
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| 11:11.18 | liable | martin: you might want to be a little more specific when you ask for help here. /msg dpkg smart questions |
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| 11:12.24 | TheAnalyst | all the docs seem to suggest using the nvidia driver, does anyone have experience/hints for usiing the xorg driver (nv) ? |
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| 11:12.56 | liable | TheAnalyst: should work fine, except you wont get 3d |
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| 11:13.51 | TheAnalyst | liable, thanks for the response - that's what I had hoped also but when I lsmod I see that agpgart is unused |
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| 11:14.02 | martin | liable, I have tar archive and I need create deb package. and I don't know how? I created control file with description but now I don't know where write untar command |
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| 11:16.41 | TheAnalyst | liable, can you suggest some definite method for me test whether agp is being activated? dmsg doesn't provide much of a clue - tells me that the card and chipset is detected, the xorg log file says nothing at all about agp being active or not |
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| 11:18.00 | siimo | not all of gnome 2.14 has made it into sid/sarge yet has it? |
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| 11:18.17 | siimo | distrowatch shows 2.14.1 in sid and 2.14.0 in sarge |
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| 11:18.26 | liable | martin: i have never packaged anything myself, so i really have no idea. but when smarter people are here, tell then what instructions you have been following and where you have gone wrong. |
| 11:18.28 | siimo | i mean etch |
| 11:18.41 | stoned | I am using Boss ME-50, patch chords, sound card line-in to record with my guitar. Is there a software for linux, that will take the guitar input from soundcard's line-in and display this in TAB format, of some sort, or lilypond? |
| 11:18.48 | stoned | I can't find anything I been looking for weeks |
| 11:19.27 | linnuxxy | i have problem in installing enlightenment on deb3.1 |
| 11:19.33 | liable | TheAnalyst: i dont really know what you mean by agp being activated. |
| 11:19.44 | linnuxxy | i get this Depends: libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed |
| 11:20.03 | liable | linnuxxy: on sarge? |
| 11:20.12 | linnuxxy | yes sarge |
| 11:20.51 | liable | linnuxxy: have you just installed debian? |
| 11:20.56 | Sonderblade | which debian package configures the /etc/environment file for you? |
| 11:21.13 | linnuxxy | yes, |
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| 11:21.42 | liable | linnuxxy: ok, you have net access and you have updated apt? |
| 11:21.43 | linnuxxy | im new, back from fedora |
| 11:21.46 | TheAnalyst | liable, sorry for the poor terminology! It seems to me that if the card has more memory available (through the usage of agp) then it will perform somewhat better than if it doesn't have this memory available. Is there a way of determining whether the card is being used to its full extent (apart from 3D) ? |
| 11:22.07 | linnuxxy | yes, apt-get update; apt-get install enlightenment |
| 11:22.35 | liable | TheAnalyst: hrm, sorry, i actually have no idea. |
| 11:22.52 | liable | linnuxxy: ok, paste your sources list on a paster |
| 11:23.03 | liable | brb |
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| 11:23.18 | TheAnalyst | thanks anyway liable, I appreciate your time |
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| 11:25.10 | linnuxxy | liable: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DWdkUy79.html |
| 11:26.10 | linnuxxy | brb |
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| 11:27.30 | blj | can someone help me with tar? i need to remove the username and group name from teh file atttributes. |
| 11:27.44 | biatche | can anyone recommend a socket754 board that works rock solid stable in nix? |
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| 11:28.18 | asg | blj: tar doesn't store names, only ids which are mapped by the system based on data in /etc/passwd. |
| 11:28.35 | liable | linnuxxy: you need internet sources, the package you need musnt be on the cd source you have |
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| 11:29.04 | blj | asg, thanks. I just need to distribute files on Internet for free, what is the best way to do it? |
| 11:30.01 | liable | biatche: your prolly better off asking in a generic linux channel or googling a board once you narrow down your choices |
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| 11:30.12 | asg | blj: just tar them up. |
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| 11:30.30 | cmot | So. Anybody has experience with bootsplash? (Specifically bootsplash 3.0 on Debian stable with a linux 2.6.15 from backports) |
| 11:30.58 | blj | asg, i have already did a tar on those files. so one gzip will be fine isnt it? |
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| 11:31.16 | cmot | I can get a clean boot (with the normal initrd), or I can get a bootsplash, but not both. When I get the bootsplash, the kernel won't mount the initrd. |
| 11:31.27 | asg | blj: yes. |
| 11:31.49 | blj | thanks asg, I appreciate it. |
| 11:32.11 | asg | you're welcome |
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| 11:32.51 | liable | nite |
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| 11:34.56 | linnuxxy | back, sorry liable |
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| 11:35.19 | merethan | y0w |
| 11:35.33 | merethan | an another weird guy with debian on his xbox :P |
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| 11:36.13 | Ronin | must be nice to have that much spare cash laying around |
| 11:36.31 | merethan | It' s not that bad |
| 11:36.49 | merethan | xbox 1 console thingy' s are 50 bucks these days |
| 11:37.13 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:37.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 11:37.17 | merethan | bit of soldering to make it work with any keyboard and mouse and you are done |
| 11:38.05 | merethan | xbox consists of very generic hardware, it' s not difficult to modify it. |
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| 11:38.23 | merethan | time for lunch now, brb |
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| 11:38.39 | Kupal[]_ | open-iscsi is killing me.. |
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| 11:38.49 | Kupal[]_ | how do i make a target iscsi disk? |
| 11:39.30 | pengol | hi there anybody can please compile this code http://rafb.net/paste/results/MkjAxQ13.html on unstable and tell me how much is optind ? |
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| 11:40.39 | threat | How does subversion weigh up against CVS? |
| 11:41.16 | asg | threat: svnbook.red-bean.com |
| 11:41.18 | jengelh | it weighs more |
| 11:41.51 | cmot | jengelh, more than a duck? |
| 11:41.55 | asg | only if you use the BDB backend |
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| 11:42.12 | cmot | (or was it more than a piece of wood?) |
| 11:42.12 | asg | !splif petemc_ |
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| 11:43.40 | CAiRO | how can i turn off the lcr hints in syslog from isdnlog? |
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| 11:48.34 | dsacode | Hello! Is there some way to check amount of sent/received traffic on interface (for it's up time) |
| 11:48.37 | threat | asg ok |
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| 11:49.23 | fluxdude | i'm trying to install svn from source but make install fails looking for /etc/apache2/httpd2-prefork.conf. I just need the svn client, how do I get around this? |
| 11:49.43 | SlammerXP | fluxdude: type "apt-get install subversion" |
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| 11:50.01 | fluxdude | SlammerXP: normally I would but this box is very old and not running debian... |
| 11:50.13 | EvilDin | hay how to make apache2 read .htaccess and make folders protected? |
| 11:50.19 | asg | threat: hmmm? |
| 11:50.46 | SlammerXP | fluxdude: so the reason you're asking a question about subversion on a non-debian system in #debian is.... ? |
| 11:51.27 | fluxdude | <sigh> I thought somebody could give some general systems level advice, oh well... |
| 11:51.47 | asg | fluxdude: svnbook.red-bean.com (installation instructions and usage for most systems) |
| 11:51.48 | jethro | fluxdude: then go for a general systems level advising channel |
| 11:51.54 | SlammerXP | fluxdude: here's some general advice: ask in the right channel. svn has it's own channel for just this kind of question. |
| 11:52.05 | fluxdude | but it's dead... |
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| 11:52.45 | linnuxxy | i got the following error http://rafb.net/paste/results/2yaNSN53.html when i try apt-get install enlightenment |
| 11:52.49 | linnuxxy | please help me out |
| 11:53.11 | asg | linnuxxy: did you try 'apt-get -f install' ? |
| 11:53.20 | linnuxxy | yes, same error |
| 11:53.24 | asg | linnuxxy: if so, what version of debian are you running |
| 11:53.33 | linnuxxy | 3.1 |
| 11:53.35 | linnuxxy | r2 |
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| 11:54.09 | streuner | linnuxxy: show us your sources.list in paster bot |
| 11:54.10 | asg | linnuxxy: do you have non-stable or unofficial sources? |
| 11:54.11 | streuner | !paste |
| 11:54.11 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 11:54.33 | linnuxxy | i think the problem is i updated the perl libraries or something like that |
| 11:54.34 | linnuxxy | ok |
| 11:54.39 | linnuxxy | i will paste it |
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| 11:55.19 | linnuxxy | source.lsit =http://rafb.net/paste/results/bMXfXO57.html |
| 11:56.01 | SlammerXP | mixing stable, testing and third party stuff. nice. |
| 11:56.06 | threat | asg, I am reading |
| 11:56.14 | linnuxxy | i have non-stable and unofficial sources, but the same problem appeared when i commented them |
| 11:56.25 | asg | linnuxxy: that's because you have already broken your system |
| 11:56.36 | linnuxxy | :( |
| 11:56.41 | linnuxxy | brocken!!! |
| 11:57.05 | linnuxxy | can i recove it back? |
| 11:57.17 | asg | linnuxxy: if you haven't done a dist-upgrade, you might be able to downgrade (/msg dpkg downgrade) but there are no guarantees and it's universally easier just to backup your volatile data and reinstall |
| 11:57.59 | asg | linnuxxy: in the future, if the whizbang version of foo that you want isn't in stable, /msg dpkg backports |
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| 11:58.41 | linnuxxy | i did backports, but after breaking the system :D |
| 11:59.59 | linnuxxy | downgrade is not supported by apt?! |
| 12:00.28 | asg | linnuxxy: not officially, no |
| 12:00.52 | asg | linnuxxy: it is sometimes possible depending on how different testing and stable are at any given time. Some upgrades just aren't easily reversible. |
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| 12:03.22 | superlinux | hi asg |
| 12:03.26 | superlinux | how are u? |
| 12:03.28 | superlinux | fine? |
| 12:03.32 | asg | good you? |
| 12:03.36 | superlinux | ya |
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| 12:04.09 | superlinux | I have just downloaded from aMule a CBT nuggets complete video |
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| 12:04.41 | superlinux | it's for bigginers but using old Redhat versions |
| 12:05.05 | d4t2ilL4 | hey guys, |
| 12:05.11 | d4t2ilL4 | how can i disbale pci hot plug |
| 12:05.14 | superlinux | hi d4t2ilL4 |
| 12:05.19 | d4t2ilL4 | hi superlinux |
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| 12:05.37 | superlinux | yea true how? |
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| 12:06.19 | linnuxxy | the problem in the perl i think, and the downgrade is not working |
| 12:06.22 | superlinux | but doesnt it detect even non hotplugguble PCI |
| 12:06.29 | linnuxxy | can i uninstall it and install it back? |
| 12:07.00 | superlinux | linnuxxy, try using synaptic |
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| 12:07.49 | linnuxxy | synaptic? |
| 12:08.10 | superlinux | yea the gui installer |
| 12:08.21 | suntime | hi all |
| 12:08.26 | superlinux | it'll ease things for you |
| 12:08.40 | linnuxxy | apt-get install synaptic? |
| 12:08.48 | superlinux | yes |
| 12:09.00 | linnuxxy | does not work |
| 12:09.32 | Ronin | linnuxxy: why not? |
| 12:09.42 | superlinux | well ... which debian are you on? |
| 12:10.08 | linnuxxy | 3.1 |
| 12:10.24 | linnuxxy | i think a broken one :( |
| 12:10.26 | asg | superlinux: he's running a mixed stable/testing/3rd party sources system |
| 12:10.44 | Ronin | asg: really? ack now theres an "interseting" thing to do |
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| 12:10.52 | d4t2ilL4 | can i uninstall this ? PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 |
| 12:10.55 | linnuxxy | it is my first debian experiance |
| 12:11.14 | asg | Ronin: yeah, his only real choice is to reinstall. Downgrades are problematic especially if you don't know what you are doing. |
| 12:11.19 | superlinux | efft! |
| 12:11.27 | superlinux | I really hate it! |
| 12:11.35 | suntime | can anyone please help me about the following problem? I have a debian server, running smb which is good, and I have cups, too. I can print from the server , and I can see remotely the print, but I can not print... It just puts in the print queue... no error message, nothing. |
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| 12:11.46 | Ronin | asg: no kidding :) |
| 12:11.50 | superlinux | the best solution is to stick to stable |
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| 12:12.13 | superlinux | and anything new he wanna add is to compile |
| 12:12.20 | superlinux | and I tell you they are rare |
| 12:12.41 | superlinux | and I tell you they are rare, the additions from outside the stable |
| 12:12.48 | linnuxxy | firefox 1.5? mysql 5.0? |
| 12:12.53 | asg | superlinux: there are backports |
| 12:13.13 | panthera | ...on backports.org which do work reall fine. |
| 12:13.42 | linnuxxy | yes, i knew it after breaking the system!! |
| 12:13.51 | superlinux | lol! |
| 12:14.07 | linnuxxy | it is not funny for me |
| 12:14.11 | linnuxxy | im crying now |
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| 12:14.17 | superlinux | I know |
| 12:14.18 | panthera | if you had pinned right, you can't shred your system. |
| 12:14.19 | Glanzmann | Hello; |
| 12:14.24 | superlinux | I am sorry for you |
| 12:14.29 | Glanzmann | what is the name of the text oriented bug reporting tool for debian? |
| 12:14.34 | asg | Glanzmann: reportbug |
| 12:14.35 | panthera | reportbug |
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| 12:14.59 | linnuxxy | the problem is i have only the first CD, other think i had downloaded it in the installation phase |
| 12:15.06 | superlinux | the most thing I needed is aMule, to compile it as an addition |
| 12:15.14 | panthera | nope |
| 12:15.15 | superlinux | everything is there I think |
| 12:15.17 | panthera | amule is on backports.org too |
| 12:15.33 | superlinux | well I recompiled it home made as they say |
| 12:16.06 | linnuxxy | i will start to download the 2nd CD |
| 12:16.11 | linnuxxy | :( |
| 12:16.21 | Ronin | linnuxxy: or use the netinstaller |
| 12:16.23 | asg | linnuxxy: just install from the first and install the rest via the net. |
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| 12:17.22 | linnuxxy | i did it before, and i would do it again everytime i brock the system, which appear to be a lot times |
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| 12:17.35 | linnuxxy | so downloading the CDs is better for me |
| 12:17.52 | asg | linnuxxy: the system was broken because you followed some foolish advice. Don't add testing sources or 3rd part sources that aren't for stable to your system. |
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| 12:19.18 | fireba11 | asg: hm ... i never managed to break my debian ... am wondering what some people are doing :-D |
| 12:19.32 | asg | fireba11: did you dist-upgrade to testing? |
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| 12:20.08 | fireba11 | asg: nah ... i'm sticking to stable :-) |
| 12:20.28 | linnuxxy | foolish advices is fiiling the net, u dont notice it z foolish until the system is brock |
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| 12:20.40 | superlinux | how can I add the back ports to my sources? |
| 12:20.47 | superlinux | what should be the line? |
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| 12:21.00 | asg | linnuxxy: then you have learned an important lesson |
| 12:21.03 | jethro | superlinux: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 12:21.06 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:21.08 | panthera | superlinux: x-www-browser http://www.backports.org/instructions.html |
| 12:21.09 | asg | fireba11: good choice |
| 12:21.22 | linnuxxy | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main contrib |
| 12:21.28 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:21.30 | superlinux | thanks |
| 12:21.32 | linnuxxy | yes, i hard one |
| 12:21.37 | asg | !bobbitt |
| 12:21.37 | linnuxxy | yes, a hard one |
| 12:21.37 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
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| 12:22.08 | linnuxxy | ok, reinstalling time!! |
| 12:22.12 | linnuxxy | c u guys |
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| 12:22.56 | fireba11 | asg: if you ask me mixing sources is like installing win98 updates on winxp .. noone would expect that to work :-) i swtiched sources from unstable to stable on an old box here and dist-upgrade didn't break anything ... but to be honest i only tried because i was curious and didn't want to have to reinstall so i gave it a try |
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| 12:27.01 | asg | fireba11: trust me, I know. In the 4 to 5 years i've been in #debian, it's one of the standard problems that always comes up |
| 12:28.51 | Shadur | asg: And people *keep doing it*. |
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| 12:30.38 | paco | Plop all |
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| 12:31.50 | paco | I've got a "Mobile PC Card (globe trotter 3G/EDGE)".. Do you know how to make it working ? |
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| 12:34.17 | POVaddct | paco: is it a cardbus card? |
| 12:34.33 | paco | a PCMCIA card.. |
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| 12:35.28 | POVaddct | paco: try lspci with and without plugged card. you should see an ohci usb controller. |
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| 12:35.44 | bodq | paco: http://www.pharscape.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=29 would this help you? |
| 12:36.10 | paco | I knox this link but I don't understand anything.. |
| 12:36.14 | paco | know |
| 12:36.21 | POVaddct | paco: if it the option card i know, it appears as an ohci usb controller with usbserial device attached to it |
| 12:37.12 | bodq | paco: read chapter 2 |
| 12:37.30 | paco | actualy it just told me: "Network controller: unknow device 1931:000c" |
| 12:38.06 | POVaddct | paco: that is only one part of the card. the other device should be a ohci controller. |
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| 12:38.21 | paco | oki |
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| 12:38.33 | POVaddct | paco: the network controller is the (unsupported) wifi device, |
| 12:38.42 | paco | ok |
| 12:39.02 | paco | with the LSPCI i get only one more line when I plug the card.. |
| 12:39.11 | paco | this the one i just told you.. |
| 12:39.17 | POVaddct | paco: :-( |
| 12:39.29 | POVaddct | paco: then it is not the option card i know |
| 12:39.50 | paco | whell.. |
| 12:39.50 | wizzo | Hi. I've just used make-kpkg to compile a vanilla kernel using the command make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image, it all compiled fine but when I tried to install it with dpkg it gave me this error: |
| 12:39.58 | wizzo | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /lib/modules/2.6.16.12: Not a directory |
| 12:39.58 | wizzo | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: MODULES needs to be set to none? |
| 12:39.58 | wizzo | Failed to create initrd image. |
| 12:40.05 | wizzo | Whoops sorry. |
| 12:40.40 | wizzo | But uh.. yeah, does anyone know how to fix that? |
| 12:41.10 | paco | but when i do the "cardctl status" i got : "Socket 1: 3.3V CardBus card -- function 0: [ready]" |
| 12:41.10 | POVaddct | bodq: the howto is for a very old option gprs card |
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| 12:41.46 | POVaddct | bodq: newer option cards gprs/3g have totally different hardware |
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| 12:47.23 | POVaddct | paco: try to identify your card in this table: http://www.pharscape.org/content/view/40/53/ |
| 12:47.50 | nvz | good TimeOfDay() debians |
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| 12:48.41 | asg | echo 'hi nvz' |
| 12:48.43 | paco | nice.. this is the one begining by a "NZ" and it is supported.. |
| 12:49.23 | nvz | asg: heh. |
| 12:49.31 | POVaddct | paco: but i don't know anything about this "nozomi gpl drivers" |
| 12:49.50 | paco | oki I 'am going ti work on it so... |
| 12:50.02 | paco | thx for your help |
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| 12:56.52 | simonrvn | echo 'hi nvz' | wall |
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| 12:58.01 | nvz | well its nice to see people awake.. I tried raising #morlug with no luck.. but they are always slow.. they are a proud few, and they are rarely looking at the channel |
| 12:58.22 | asg | simonrvn: one of these days, I'm going to hack up an extended wall(1) and call it larrywall(1) |
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| 12:58.54 | nvz | trying to see what they got going on.. they got a meeting on the 31st I think it is, and I am getting that ipaq still though I am probably not going to florida I think I may just stick around morgantown awhile |
| 12:59.12 | asg | nvz: I thought FL was a done deal? |
| 12:59.35 | nvz | asg: it is/was I just found more oppertunity here and the guy is aggrivating me |
| 13:00.10 | nvz | asg: he doesnt talk to me with the respect I expect from my collegues |
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| 13:01.04 | simonrvn | asg: *groan* |
| 13:01.57 | nvz | I've been here like 3 days in morgantown waiting on him.. it was supposed to be today, then it was saturday, now it may be mid next week.. and he keeps asking me if I am going and warning me about changing my mind when I get there..etc I told him its me waiting on him, I left two full time jobs behind to come wait on him here and he's talking to me like I am his child |
| 13:02.25 | asg | simonrvn: welcome to the house of bad puns ;) |
| 13:02.35 | nix | i am looking at clustering some services. namely apache, mysql, openvpn and some others. could someone give me info on several different ways to set up clustering in linux? |
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| 13:02.43 | simonrvn | i'd rather be in the house of good pancakes ;p |
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| 13:02.51 | asg | mmmmm pancakes |
| 13:03.04 | nix | it's either going to be loadbalancing on 2 hosts, or a normal standby/active cluster |
| 13:03.04 | nvz | I dont think I could go to florida with someone who doesnt respect me as a man and understand my level of commitment |
| 13:03.18 | stew | nix: http://ultramonkey.org |
| 13:03.21 | nix | just the project names of different types of clustering software would do |
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| 13:04.40 | nix | ooh. is this ultramonkey one-for-all piece of software? |
| 13:05.41 | nvz | what really pissed me off is him commenting about me playing around getting that ipaq, as if it were any of his business.. and I am buying it because by time his ass gets moving my bills will be due again and I need to manage my finances online. |
| 13:05.59 | stew | nix: no it's docs on setting up linuxvirtualserver + heartbeat which is what it sounds like you are looking for |
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| 13:06.35 | stew | nix: and the site is written by someone on the debian kernel team |
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| 13:06.58 | nix | stew: i notice LVS and HA, I have looked at those in the past as well. are there any more HA/loadbalancing solutions you know of? |
| 13:07.11 | nix | im trying to look at all the options :) |
| 13:07.36 | sep | nix there are several propritary HA loadbalancer out there if you want to spend money |
| 13:08.12 | nix | that's an option if linux wouldn't be able to handle it, but all the services run on linux. |
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| 13:08.28 | sep | nix if semiHA + loadbalancingf is enough you can run DNS with low refreash times and round robin records |
| 13:08.39 | nix | no it has to be HA |
| 13:08.48 | sep | remove the addresses that fail to get HA have multiple addersses to loadbalance |
| 13:08.50 | nix | there can be no downtime, or at least to the minimum |
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| 13:08.55 | stew | nix: LVS and HA is all i know about on linux |
| 13:08.59 | nix | k |
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| 13:09.12 | Dr_O | nix: some switches can do load balancing... |
| 13:09.19 | sep | nix, then it's LVM or buy the service. and have a server in a datacenter on each continent |
| 13:09.21 | asg | i.e. Nortel Alteons |
| 13:09.56 | nix | step one is moving from single host to clusters; step two is multiple datacenters:) |
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| 13:10.14 | nix | i will start reading. thanks;) |
| 13:10.26 | asg | step three: drinking pina coladas on the beach |
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| 13:11.23 | nix | hehehe |
| 13:11.57 | nix | well as long as clustering services is a niche, step three is attainable:) |
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| 13:13.32 | Sonderblade | how do you do to create a binary package that you can install from a debian dfsg package? |
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| 13:14.05 | Luftzig | I have a problem with my keyboard at the scancodes level... |
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| 13:14.44 | Wanderer | GAH, WTF does my kpdf always try to print with A4 instead of letter size! |
| 13:16.18 | nix | stew: what about filesystems? do you know whether if clustering filesystems are on-par these days or if rsync is still the standard? I remember having to look for closed source clustering filesystems in the past (GFS) |
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| 13:17.17 | ffantasy | hi all! |
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| 13:17.42 | asg | Wanderer: dpkg-reconfigure libpaper1 |
| 13:19.07 | simonrvn | nix: look at very recent kernels |
| 13:19.20 | Wanderer | asg: ok, how the hell did you know that? I've been fighting this for about a month and have reconfigured about everything but never found that one |
| 13:19.26 | nix | im reading up on DBRD right now |
| 13:19.46 | nix | looks awesome. but i did note a new FS in a recent kernel now that you mention it |
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| 13:19.49 | simonrvn | hint, apt-get install configure-debian |
| 13:19.49 | asg | Wanderer: if you hang out in #debian long enough, you'll see the answer to most problems |
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| 13:20.29 | simonrvn | of course, add sudo to the front of that =) |
| 13:20.47 | epictetus | i helped design a really sick redundant dual mailserver setup with drbd |
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| 13:22.09 | nix | simonrvn: OCFS2? |
| 13:22.51 | simonrvn | some domain expired and the mta who was taking care of the e-mails is sending my mta the e-mails ... luckily it's a "friendly" mta :) |
| 13:22.54 | simonrvn | i think so |
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| 13:25.41 | Nykheyn | !marillat |
| 13:25.41 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add. If you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>. For specific sources.list lines, ask me about <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
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| 13:38.53 | lewis | would a Paris web user notice a difference if he was streaming a 10Mb video file from a Paris datacentre, or a Japanese datacentre. (The latency for the Japanese datacentre would obviously be higher). Effectively, what differences does latency make in file downloads? |
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| 13:42.34 | ticc | hi there |
| 13:43.21 | Sonderblade | anyone know where or if I can find asterisk 1.2.6 backported to sarge? |
| 13:43.23 | kspath | lewis: Assuming no data loss it would be slower to start. |
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| 13:43.30 | ticc | is it a good idea to use grub for booting from xfs partition? |
| 13:43.43 | lewis | kspath: apart from that, would it then work normally? |
| 13:43.44 | kspath | lewis: With data loss it would take longer to recover from that data loss. |
| 13:43.52 | ticc | why sarge atomaticly installs lillo when choosing xfs partitions? |
| 13:44.04 | lewis | i.e. if it was a difference between 50 ms, and 200ms, then would the only difference be it taking an extra 150ms to start? |
| 13:44.05 | kspath | lewis: VERY dependent on connectivity |
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| 13:44.28 | ticc | grub =>0.91 is said to work fine i heard :/ |
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| 13:44.39 | kspath | lewis: Only? How large is your buffer? 1-8 seconds? |
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| 13:45.17 | Luftzig | doesn't X reads the keymaps modified by tools such as setkeycodes? |
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| 13:45.36 | lewis | kspath: I think the important thing is 'taking longer to recover from data loss'. |
| 13:46.10 | lewis | if the buffer is 'first 5 seconds of video', then I guess the buffer would be 'ready' (i.e. start playing) sooner... |
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| 13:46.51 | DataTheAndroid | Hello. |
| 13:47.08 | DataTheAndroid | Is there a script I can invoke to create a user? |
| 13:47.17 | simonrvn | yes |
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| 13:47.41 | DataTheAndroid | I have a script and I want that script to automatically create a user. The script will be run as root and will require a root password and a connection from the local network, so it's safe. |
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| 13:48.07 | lewis | kspath: thanks for your advice on this matter. |
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| 13:48.29 | nvz | DataTheAndroid: and wheres the problem? |
| 13:48.43 | thom_ | How do I install Firefox on a fresh GNOME/Debian box? |
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| 13:48.52 | petemc | DataTheAndroid: theres a newusers command |
| 13:48.55 | DataTheAndroid | There is no problem. I want to know if there's a command which I can invoke to create a user |
| 13:48.59 | nvz | thom_: what distro? Sarge? |
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| 13:49.10 | nvz | DataTheAndroid: man adduser |
| 13:49.16 | thom_ | nvz Yes, Sarge. |
| 13:50.14 | nvz | thom_: its still called mozilla-firefox in sarge, you can apt-get install mozilla-firefox. but its a bit dated, if you want to stay current it may serve you to pin the release from backports you would have to add a source for it, and a pin pref |
| 13:50.41 | thom_ | nvz You lost me at 'pin' |
| 13:51.01 | simonrvn | !pinning |
| 13:51.01 | dpkg | well, apt-pinning is read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 13:51.07 | nvz | thom_: pinning makes sure that you can have a source with newer packages and only upgrade the ones you want |
| 13:51.22 | nvz | thom_: the pinning data and howto info is on http://www.backports.org |
| 13:51.33 | nvz | thom_: if you have any further questions dont hesitate to ask |
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| 13:51.47 | thom_ | Is GNOME dated as well? Ever since Linus said "KDE over GNOME" slashdot hasn't had a lot of articles re: GNOME |
| 13:52.09 | thom_ | nvz: So i'd have to compile? |
| 13:52.13 | simonrvn | that's because they worship the ground linus walks on |
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| 13:52.47 | nvz | thom_: everything in sarge is dated as its a frozen distribution of software that is only updated for security reasons.. but things like firefox you will want to stay up to date with just to fix non-security bugs and to stay current so all the latest extensions will work. |
| 13:53.05 | simonrvn | . o O ( prone to negative cultism ... ) |
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| 13:53.21 | nvz | thom_: and no, you dont have to compile, backports takes the lates upstream packages from sid, and recompiles them for you using the dependencies from sarge |
| 13:53.40 | RichiH | how can i tell scp to include any dotfiles it may find in subdirs? |
| 13:53.52 | ticc | i have now one xfs partiotion and lilo. i'm going to change it to grub. Wich files should i backup to be 100% sure that if something goes wrong i'll able to recover? |
| 13:53.53 | nvz | thom_: once you add the source and set the pin, you can just apt-get install firefox and have the most current version available in debian |
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| 13:54.16 | ticc | MBS and /boot? is it all? |
| 13:54.25 | ticc | MBR* |
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| 13:55.02 | thom_ | ok |
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| 13:56.49 | nvz | RichiH: since scp takes a file _list_ you could use gnu find and pipe it into xargs scp, with your initial arguments |
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| 13:57.33 | nvz | RichiH: though the -r should copy the entire dir reguardless |
| 13:57.53 | RichiH | nvz: it does not |
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| 13:58.00 | RichiH | which is annoying as all hell |
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| 13:58.35 | nvz | RichiH: you can also consider using rsync for what you are doing.. |
| 13:59.18 | TheAsp | I have several servers running Sarge which are configured to use LDAP with libnss-ldap. Every now and then cron jobs appear to hang, and a zombie cron process is left behind. Is there anyway I can find out whats going on and how to fix it? |
| 13:59.28 | thom_ | nvz: Is there anything more than what is at http://backports.org/instructions.html ? |
| 13:59.46 | nvz | RichiH: scp was just designed to be a simple secure remote copy, rsync uses ssh as well but is more geared toward moving entire dir trees like you want to do. but seems to me the find ... | xargs scp ... thing would work too |
| 14:00.03 | Trewas | RichiH: hmm, I just tested and "scp -r foo/ somewhere:" copies also dotfiles in foo |
| 14:00.09 | thom_ | nvz: Also, is't there a graphical way to install programs without having to drop to a prompt? |
| 14:00.29 | nvz | thom_: yeah, the synaptics package manager. |
| 14:01.12 | thom_ | nvz: Also, on backports.org the FAQ and HOWTO are blank... |
| 14:01.22 | nvz | thom_: locate the "repositories" item in the menu in synaptic and add http://www.backports.org/debian/ |
| 14:02.25 | nvz | thom_: that link you gave me explains it in great detail. you make 3 modifications to your apt settings, adding the backports.org source, pinning backports to the low priority so that they will not be fetched unless you specify. then you add a pref to pin each package you actually want from backports |
| 14:03.26 | nvz | thom_: the first result on this page is the package and pin prefs you need http://backports.org/package.php?search=firefox |
| 14:03.56 | thom_ | Okay, I'll try that. Do I have reload anything once that is done? Or just apt-get install firefox |
| 14:03.59 | thom_ | ok |
| 14:04.00 | nvz | thom_: do you know how to gain superuser (root) privlages and work and editor to modify these settings? |
| 14:04.12 | nvz | thom_: you will need to apt-get update, then you can install |
| 14:04.33 | thom_ | nvz: Yes I can get to root |
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| 14:07.25 | vinzbn | Hi ! What can I do to "purge the hotplug packages" after an "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.16-1-686" ? |
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| 14:08.52 | nvz | thom_: as root this one-liner should suffice if your files are either non-existant or all contain newlines at the end: echo "deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list ; echo -e "Package: * \n Pin: release a=sarge-backports \n Pin-Priority: 200 \n Package: firefox \n Pin: release a=sarge-backports \n Pin-Priority: 999" >> /etc/apt/preferences ;... |
| 14:08.53 | nvz | ...apt-get update && apt-get install firefox |
| 14:09.01 | nvz | thom_: that would have to be run as root of course |
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| 14:09.24 | thom_ | I don't mind editing each one in pico |
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| 14:09.47 | thom_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:09.55 | nvz | thom_: I dont mind either, you just led me to believe you were not understanding it :P since you didnt understand from that page that it was that easy |
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| 14:10.25 | nvz | thom_: yeah because you currently have no prefs.. that line I showed will create it if it doesnt exist, or you can touch /etc/apt/preferences |
| 14:10.48 | thom_ | nvz: Oh, I can edit files all day long, I just don't konw what I'm doing. What I mean to say is I just type in whatever I read without understanding why. |
| 14:11.02 | zamaliphe | what is #yacc how to install it |
| 14:11.13 | thom_ | nvz: I appreciate this help, by the way: Thanks. |
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| 14:11.34 | asg | zamaliphe: a parser generator ; apt-get install bison |
| 14:11.55 | kspath | good luck to debian and community. thank you all for everything. |
| 14:12.03 | kspath | good bye |
| 14:12.03 | asg | kspath: where are you going? |
| 14:12.28 | thom_ | nvz: For instance in that documentation It says to *activate* a specific package type yada yada |
| 14:12.52 | thom_ | nvz: How do I translate their yada yada about Mutt to firefox? |
| 14:13.24 | Nikolay | thom_: Try apt-get 'install apt-howto'. Then read. This can make more understandable the steps above. |
| 14:13.27 | nvz | thom_: yes, the first pin, * at 200 makes sure that when you are normally intalling packages you are not tainting your system with _every_ single package from backports, then you have to individually pin each package you _do_ want so it will prefer that newer version over the one in sarge |
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| 14:13.47 | zamaliphe | asg: i did but didint work i still get make: yacc: Command not found |
| 14:13.50 | nvz | thom_: just change the package name. |
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| 14:14.05 | thom_ | nvz to firefox? |
| 14:14.20 | Nikolay | zamaliphe: auto-apt package can help you. |
| 14:14.21 | asg | !find bin/yacc |
| 14:14.31 | nvz | thom_: right as I showed you in my one-liner and in that link http://backports.org/package.php?search=firefox |
| 14:14.33 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/yacc' (1): (/usr/lib/9base/bin/yacc) in utils/9base. |
| 14:14.41 | asg | hmmm |
| 14:15.15 | thom_ | Okay, sorry, running back and forth to another machine with firefox installed... |
| 14:15.21 | asg | zamaliphe: did running './configure --foo' with some source package indicate you needed yacc? If so, try doing a clean configure now that you hvae it installed. |
| 14:15.26 | simonrvn | /usr/bin/bison.yacc |
| 14:15.28 | panthera | .oO(9base will be removed anyway, don't count on it ;) |
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| 14:15.59 | simonrvn | i thought so, in bison |
| 14:16.02 | nvz | thom_: well you are getting a very intimate knowledge of the package management system right now. |
| 14:16.14 | simonrvn | sudo apt-get install bison |
| 14:16.40 | mortal__ | what is the name of the gl library package with what I can get dri on r300 |
| 14:16.40 | thom_ | nvz: And am taking notes, thanks again for taking the time to help. |
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| 14:17.24 | nvz | thom_: no problem. I havent anything to do right this minute. I am just planning my immediate future :P |
| 14:17.41 | asg | simonrvn: doesn't bison install a /usr/bin/yacc symlink anyway? |
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| 14:18.11 | thom_ | nvz okay, installing firefox.. |
| 14:18.20 | thom_ | nvz: What desktop manager do you use? |
| 14:18.26 | simonrvn | yes, through alternatives |
| 14:18.30 | martynas | do you know any open source program to draw network graphics? |
| 14:18.33 | thom_ | nvz: KDE? |
| 14:18.35 | asg | martynas: dia |
| 14:18.49 | asg | martynas: I've also seen inkscape used |
| 14:18.56 | nvz | thom_: unfortunatly I am using explorer right now as I dont have a debian machine. |
| 14:19.00 | simonrvn | /usr/bin/yacc -> /etc/alternatives/yacc* /etc/alternatives/yacc -> /usr/bin/bison.yacc* /usr/bin/bison.yacc* |
| 14:19.01 | martynas | thanks. |
| 14:19.03 | zamaliphe | Nikolay: you meen if i install auto-apt i cane use yacc |
| 14:19.29 | simonrvn | dlocate /usr/bin/bison.yacc bison: /usr/bin/bison.yacc |
| 14:19.29 | thom_ | nvz: windows? Okay, thats my normal OS. What desktop mgr do you like to use? |
| 14:19.37 | nvz | thom_: when I am not stuck using windows I have no need for such a thing I just use my fav window manager sawfish |
| 14:19.43 | simonrvn | asg, zamaliphe: ^^^ |
| 14:19.49 | roderyk | I have a running raid, but its crippled (created with missing harddrive). After a reboot, I try to add the old one back in: mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/hda1 ==> Cannot open /dev/hda1: Device or resource busy. But I can mount /dev/hda1. Suggestions, please? |
| 14:19.54 | asg | simonrvn: *nod* |
| 14:20.08 | paco | vous savez comment faire en sorte que des que je branche un carte pcmcia ca execute un script ? |
| 14:20.12 | jethro | !fr |
| 14:20.13 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 14:20.17 | simonrvn | just follow the trail ;). |
| 14:20.22 | Nikolay | zamaliphe: No. But all necessary packages will be installed automatically as soon as become necessary. |
| 14:20.38 | nvz | thom_: desktop environments are for people who like to point and grunt. I find it easier with my skill and experience to type I can accomplish things quicker with less milage on my hand movement |
| 14:20.45 | simonrvn | "sssh be vewwy vewwy qwiet, we awe hunting bison wabbits" |
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| 14:20.49 | thom_ | nvz: I installed sawfish as well, how is that different than GNOME? |
| 14:21.01 | asg | simonrvn: "lex season" |
| 14:21.02 | thom_ | nvz: HOw do I use sawfish? |
| 14:21.09 | simonrvn | heheh |
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| 14:21.16 | Dr_O | roderyk: I thought the syntax was " mdadm --manage /dev/md0 -a /dev/hda1" |
| 14:21.58 | nvz | thom_: its nothing like gnome Gnome is an entire desktop environment, encompassing all sorts of programs including a Window Manager called Metacity which simply draws a frame around windows and allows you to move/resize and cascade them..etc thats what sawfish does, manages windows. it has no desktop, no panels nothing like that |
| 14:22.07 | simonrvn | hehehe "point and grunt" |
| 14:22.20 | nvz | thom_: sawfish used to be the gnome window manager but they switched to metacity. which I dont care for |
| 14:22.24 | roderyk | Dr_O: they give me the same result, I think the first is a shorthand. Anywho, i tried your suggestion, but still same result. :( |
| 14:22.33 | Nikolay | thom_: If you want to use sawfish, please check before that you are knew elisp ;o) |
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| 14:22.50 | zamaliphe | Nikolay: but how to use it |
| 14:22.59 | thom_ | nvz: I had something like that the last time I installed debian with an XWindows system, there was just a cursor that was a big X |
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| 14:23.12 | nvz | sawfish-ui is quite friendly and powerful for most configuration tasks.. no need to speak with a lisp |
| 14:23.15 | thom_ | I couldn't figure out how to do anything. |
| 14:23.18 | s3r14l-k1ll3r | is anyone only? |
| 14:23.22 | s3r14l-k1ll3r | online* |
| 14:23.26 | s3r14l-k1ll3r | cause i need some help |
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| 14:23.33 | thom_ | nvz: Okay firefox installed |
| 14:23.41 | Dr_O | roderyk: what does /proc/mdstat say? |
| 14:23.44 | asg | !tell s3r14l-k1ll3r about ask |
| 14:23.47 | Ronin | s3r14l-k1ll3r: best just to ask the question |
| 14:23.50 | Nikolay | zamaliphe: apto-apt? Just read the ducumentation. man auto-apt. |
| 14:23.51 | nvz | thom_: well you can run sawfish as your window manager and still start gnome-panel for the panel bars, and then start nautilus -n and it will draw the desktop and you would still think you are in gnome |
| 14:23.53 | s3r14l-k1ll3r | ok |
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| 14:24.02 | thom_ | nvz: But I did it from a ssh, is that a problem? I can't find the icon to click (then grunt) |
| 14:24.08 | nvz | thom_: of course you would probably want to start other things like gnome-settings-daemon ..etc |
| 14:24.22 | zamaliphe | Nikolay: thanks |
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| 14:24.32 | roderyk | Dr_O: /proc/mdstat returns 2 working raids, /dev/md0 and md1, both missign the first drive: [_U] (and both using hdc) |
| 14:24.36 | s3r14l-k1ll3r | im running knoppix linux on my acer aspire 3002 but the wlan card isnt working and cant find a driver anywhere u guys maybe know something so i can find one? |
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| 14:25.03 | nvz | thom_: gnome and kde are entire desktop environments. I have no need for that. I only need a window manager. and I prefer to have a great one. |
| 14:25.03 | asg | s3r14l-k1ll3r: please consult #knoppix first |
| 14:25.10 | s3r14l-k1ll3r | ok |
| 14:25.22 | thom_ | nvz: Understandable. |
| 14:25.37 | zrin | I added sid in sources.list and "Package: * / Pin: release a=sid / Pin-Priority: 200", but apt(itude) still offers to upgrade packages that are present in both (amd64) ... did I miss something? |
| 14:25.40 | zamaliphe | but i still rely want to know what debian bakg have yacc |
| 14:25.53 | roderyk | Dr_O: I'm really confused, because hda does not appear to be mounted (/etc/mtab), but it claims its busy when trying to add it to the raid. Additionally, it can't be busy, because mount /dev/hda1 /mnt works... :-/ |
| 14:26.14 | nvz | thom_: sawfish offers me features which KDE's kwin window manager and GNOME's metacity cannot compare to. the ones I like the most are its context-based key bindings and its ability to match windows with profiles. |
| 14:26.26 | simonrvn | roderyk: when in doubt, consult /proc/mounts |
| 14:26.33 | thom_ | nvz: /etc/firefox doesn't contain an 'executable' to launch firefox as far as I can tell. |
| 14:26.38 | Dr_O | roderyk: you tried "lsof" to find what process is using /dev/hda? |
| 14:27.16 | thom_ | nvz: Cool. Can you run sawfish on a remote computer, controlling the debian box? |
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| 14:28.00 | nvz | thom_: in most winow managers I could only bind a keystroke like Ctrl+Meta+A or Ctrl+Alt+Mouse_Button_1 to a single command, in sawfish I can bind the same keystroke to multiple different commands based on the context under which it was stroked :P and the matched windows allows me to save profiles for each window/program..etc and I can basically design my interface from scratch |
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| 14:28.45 | roderyk | simonrvn: O.o thanks! Didn't know about /proc/mounts. OK, so /dev/hda1 is mounted as / and /dev/.static/dev even though my fstab says /dev/md0 / |
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| 14:29.15 | roderyk | Dr_O: lsof | grep hda reports nothing |
| 14:29.24 | simonrvn | /proc is fricking useful. |
| 14:29.52 | nvz | thom_: I can tell sawfish to start with Oclock, and tell it to match that window to workspace 1, on depth -4 without its window frame and title bar at 200,400 size of 300x300 pixels and it will turn that ordinary application into a useful part of my graphical user interface. |
| 14:29.57 | zamaliphe | but i still rely want to know what debian bakg have yacc |
| 14:30.17 | thom_ | nvz: Very cool. |
| 14:30.20 | asg | zamaliphe: it has bison, a yacc compatible free package. |
| 14:30.30 | thom_ | nvz: How would you instruct it to launch firefox? :) |
| 14:30.38 | Dr_O | roderyk: you may need to update your initrd and kernel boot parameters to get /dev/md0 as the root device... good luck! |
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| 14:30.43 | nvz | thom_: typing firefox |
| 14:31.05 | roderyk | Dr_O: hmm, ok.. will see what I can do :-/ Thanks for your help! |
| 14:31.10 | Nikolay | thom_: or use Debian menu. |
| 14:31.14 | nvz | thom_: well actually you would select it from the applications menu |
| 14:31.28 | zamaliphe | asg i have install bison and i dont have yacc |
| 14:31.52 | asg | zamaliphe: ls -l /usr/bin/yacc (paste the output) (see what simonrvn said above) |
| 14:32.10 | DataTheAndroid | how does the newusers command work? |
| 14:32.20 | zrin | with apt(itude) - how can I se from which release a package or a version comes (when using pinning)? |
| 14:32.36 | thom_ | YES! |
| 14:32.37 | DataTheAndroid | I want to create a user named "test" with password "testing" with home directory /home/thisisatest |
| 14:32.39 | nvz | thom_: the only downside I see to sawfish is the reason that GNOME now uses Metacity.. which is because it is not exactly up to speed with the open desktop standards EWMH to be specific which is a new way of applications interfacing with the window manager that sawfish doesnt understand |
| 14:33.01 | thom_ | Succes. Browsing slashdot.org via linux (and not links or lynx or whatever) for the first time. |
| 14:33.09 | zamaliphe | asg: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-05-01 00:29 /usr/bin/yacc -> /etc/alternatives/yacc |
| 14:33.17 | asg | zamaliphe: then you have it |
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| 14:33.56 | nvz | thom_: like I've seen apps like OpenOffice.org or Amarok choak under sawfish for example on like pull-down menus for fonts/colors or poping up larger thumbnails.. the program wants these little windows to appear when they are clicked on then dissapear, but sawfish misunderstands and shows them as normal windows with title bars and all and you have to manually close them, they dont just dissapear |
| 14:34.00 | Dr_O | zrin: apt-show-version may help you |
| 14:34.48 | zamaliphe | asg: bash: /usr/bin/yacc: Permission denied |
| 14:34.55 | thom_ | nvz: How can I run a windows manager on a microsoft windows machine controlling my debian box? |
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| 14:35.09 | asg | zamaliphe: ls -l /etc/alternatives/yacc |
| 14:35.12 | thom_ | nvz: Is that a function of sawfish? |
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| 14:35.45 | zrin | Dr_O: thank you |
| 14:37.02 | nvz | thom_: you dont need a window manager for that. you probably want Remote Framebuffer or its cousin Virtual Network Computing or even perhaps its friend Synergy |
| 14:37.36 | zrin | why does aptitude still offer to upgrade packages to unstable, even if unstable has lower priority in /etc/apt/preferences? |
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| 14:37.51 | thom_ | nvz: Okay I'll google. |
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| 14:38.05 | nvz | thom_: synergy is really really cool if you have multiple pcs in the same general location. you can have a MacOS desktop on your left, your windows laptop on your right, and your linux box in the middle and control all 3 from one keyboard and mouse, you can slide your cursor right off one computer screen onto the next |
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| 14:38.18 | nvz | thom_: but if you dont have them all in the same room you want either VNC or RFB |
| 14:38.45 | zamaliphe | asg: i have to use sudo chmod 777 /etc/alternatives/yacc to make it work thank |
| 14:38.55 | thom_ | nvz: Also, if I want to configure certain services like Apache or CVS to run inside GNOME (not just text files) do I have to install managers for those as well? |
| 14:39.07 | thom_ | nvz: They are all on the same local network. |
| 14:39.40 | nvz | thom_: rfb package contains the x0rfbserver program which when run from Xwindows say your gnome desktop, exports your current display across the network so you can download the free VNC client from realvnc.com and view it from windows. however the vncserver package will start a whole new display that runs in the background that you can connect to the same way |
| 14:39.53 | thom_ | nvz: You know I configured synergy before and had to tweek it a lot. I'm fine with remote desktop for my windows boxes for now. |
| 14:40.09 | nvz | thom_: remote desktop is VNC/RFB |
| 14:40.23 | nvz | thom_: its just microsoft twisting it around and calling it something else |
| 14:40.24 | thom_ | nvz Can't I just connect to the X server running on my debian box? |
| 14:40.40 | jengelh | No. |
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| 14:41.05 | jengelh | There's no "hijacking code" in the normal X server |
| 14:41.10 | nvz | thom_: install rfb package, run x0rfbserver from your gnome desktop, it will open a small status window about 64x64 pixels and then you dowload the windows vnc viewer from realvnc.com and connect |
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| 14:42.06 | DataTheAndroid | Um |
| 14:42.13 | nvz | thom_: however installing and running vncserver instead of rfb creates a whole new display for you to access on that debian box, rather than using the active one.. this way you dont have to actually be logged into X on that machine locally. in fact VNC can be run without even having X installed its like its own mini X server |
| 14:42.13 | DataTheAndroid | How do I check if a user already exists? |
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| 14:42.38 | thom_ | Where does vncserver run? |
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| 14:42.49 | thom_ | and does it run over SSH? |
| 14:43.01 | LoRez | thom_: you can run it anywhere you have shell access |
| 14:43.29 | Sonderblade | if you add a deb-src line, will then apt-get install fetch packages from the deb-src line? |
| 14:43.34 | thom_ | LoRez: Makes sense. |
| 14:43.46 | jethro | Sonderblade: if you apt-get update, and use apt-get source <package> yes |
| 14:43.49 | nvz | thom_: you could for example. ahve your debian box sitting at the login screen with no local logins active, ssh in, then start vncserver -depth 16 -geometry 800x600 :1, then run your vncclient from windows and connect to 10.0.0.10:1 and access it |
| 14:44.49 | thom_ | nvz: So VNC Server runs on debian, and the VNC client runs on windows or where ever... ok |
| 14:44.50 | nvz | thom_: the RFB flavor of VNC only works on an active display you would have to login locally and run it from say gnome. vncserver works without being logged in locally or even having X installed or running |
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| 14:45.22 | jengelh | *ahem* tightvnc ;)_ |
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| 14:45.30 | jengelh | bandwidth saver |
| 14:45.31 | nvz | nvz: right. the programs for windows are on realvnc.com and VNC is a superset of RFB the Remote Framebuffer Protocol. VNC is merely an implementation of RFB |
| 14:45.48 | nvz | jengelh: IIRC realvnc.com _is_ tight vnc |
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| 14:46.58 | nvz | thom_: on the same token, Microsoft's Remote Desktop is another implementation of RFB |
| 14:47.17 | thom_ | yes, but you can only have 1 login at a time |
| 14:47.25 | nvz | thom_: integrated into windows messenger and with their commercial feces smeared all over it |
| 14:47.26 | thom_ | which is not optimal |
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| 14:48.11 | thom_ | Okay, now what about a GUI for Apache and CVS... |
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| 14:48.24 | nvz | sadly no matter how much anyone wants to admit it windows is still a coopertive tasking system that only runs one program at a time anyhow :P |
| 14:48.26 | thom_ | nvz: Will those run over VNC? |
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| 14:49.00 | nvz | thom_: when you start VNC its just like starting your default session as if you had logged in locally from the display manager's login screen |
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| 14:49.05 | thom_ | nvz: ANd do I have to install those to run on GNOME, or are they prepackaged somewhere? |
| 14:49.36 | thom_ | nvz; That's all I really needed for this system, I didn't really even need GNOME, I just want to access it remotely and have it be a headless server. |
| 14:49.57 | nvz | thom_: I have no idea where you are going with GUI for Apache and CVS.. these programs are servers of content, their content is their GUI and its available from any webserver or cvs client |
| 14:50.27 | nvz | thom_: then you didnt even need to install XFree, and you dont need VNC either :P |
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| 14:51.11 | nvz | if you want to use it like a graphical desktop all you needed was vncserver. if you want to use it as a webserver you dont need that |
| 14:51.37 | thom_ | nvz: No, I mean since i've installed GNOME anyway, is there a 'skin' for Apache or CVS like IIS and CVSNT? |
| 14:51.38 | Sonderblade | how can i check build dependancies for a package before i run apt-get build-dep? |
| 14:51.43 | Dr_O | thom_: webmin may help you setup and manage apache and cvs.... Personally I don't use webmin but I have heard some people swear by it! |
| 14:51.57 | thom_ | webmin? okay |
| 14:52.19 | jengelh | nvz : So? I can't find a reference that the two are related (with the exception of the vnc code base) |
| 14:52.32 | nvz | if you mean a GUI to _configure_ and Manage like view stats connections..etc CVS and Apache those would likely run on top of apache and be accessible from your web browser. something like webmin package, which most everyone will tell you is evil and insecure |
| 14:52.32 | Dr_O | Sonderblade: "apt-get build-dep -s" |
| 14:52.42 | Sonderblade | Dr_O: thanks |
| 14:53.10 | Dr_O | nvz: per haps I should have said swear at! |
| 14:53.32 | nvz | jengelh: *shrug* I thought that site had tightvnc on the site, I thought that was the product they were pushing. but thats all regaurdless they are all implementations of Remote Framebuffer and we determined for the purposes of this discussion he doesnt really need any of them |
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| 14:53.41 | simonrvn | perhaps is one word, not 2 |
| 14:54.29 | thom_ | nvz: So tightVNC? |
| 14:54.30 | nvz | simonrvn: well per, and haps, are two words. they just have a different meaning than the word perhaps |
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| 14:55.21 | nvz | thom_: your intentions are crazy to my ways of thinking. If I were you I'd uninstall Xfree and all X related packages, setup ssh, apache, and cvs and manage it remotely and securely through ssh from the shell |
| 14:55.23 | linnuxxy | hi guys, it is me again, after re-installing sarge :D |
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| 14:55.51 | thom_ | nvz: I have all of that installed and running already, I'm trying to learn! |
| 14:55.59 | thom_ | (And manage a server) |
| 14:56.51 | nvz | thom_: well I cant really help there networking isnt my bag. my function here is mostly fundamental. I know little bits of everything I am not someone you can drain for information because my knowledge in any specific area is limited |
| 14:57.11 | nvz | as is my interest for that matter :P |
| 14:57.49 | linnuxxy | i had installed enlightenment "apt-get install enlightenment" and everything is ok, but there is no such choise when i login, still i have only gnome and kde?! |
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| 14:58.04 | thom_ | nvz: Thanks for your help, really. |
| 14:58.20 | nvz | linnuxxy: where are you logging in from GDM? |
| 14:58.38 | linnuxxy | yes |
| 14:58.56 | linnuxxy | the usual login screen! |
| 14:59.01 | nvz | linnuxxy: have you verified that it is infact installed or tried just running it manually? |
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| 14:59.31 | linnuxxy | how to do that? is it documented? |
| 14:59.40 | nvz | dpkg -l enlightenment |
| 14:59.40 | dpkg | No packages found matching enlightenment |
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| 15:00.25 | nvz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.34 | linnuxxy | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
| 15:00.36 | nvz | er well |
| 15:00.43 | nvz | ~/.xinitrc |
| 15:00.44 | apt | ~/.xinitrc is the traditional personal startup script used by xinit/startx, but in Debian ~/.xsession is preferred. xdm and startx use ~/.xsession; gdm uses ~/.gnomerc instead. |
| 15:00.49 | nvz | heh |
| 15:00.55 | nvz | I need to stop triggering the bots |
| 15:01.00 | linnuxxy | so there is problem?! |
| 15:01.06 | nvz | you tell me |
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| 15:01.13 | nvz | you are the one that can see whats going on |
| 15:01.21 | linnuxxy | i ask, you tell |
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| 15:01.34 | linnuxxy | how to solve? |
| 15:01.36 | Gnea | there's a solution |
| 15:01.41 | Gnea | linnuxxy: he just told you |
| 15:01.49 | nvz | I rest my case. you figure out that you have installed version of enlightenment and that it will start, then we'll see if there is a problem |
| 15:02.13 | linnuxxy | i was kidding nvz |
| 15:02.14 | nvz | however if you dont have it installed or its not running when you ask it to.. then there is good reason for why you cannot get to it from gdm |
| 15:02.39 | Gnea | linnuxxy: echo "#!/bin/sh" > ~/.xsession && echo "exec enlightenment" >> ~/.xsession && chmod 600 ~/.xsession |
| 15:03.08 | Gnea | linnuxxy: that's it, 3 commands, have a nut |
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| 15:04.16 | linnuxxy | k, i will try them out, thnx |
| 15:04.22 | Gnea | linnuxxy: i'm sorry, it should be chmod 700 ~/.xsession |
| 15:04.26 | Gnea | oops |
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| 15:04.56 | nvz | doing that will make enlightenment "default" so you could select "default" from gdm but doesnt explain why it didnt go therein the first place |
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| 15:05.11 | zebalin4 | Hi folks. Quick, simple Q. Turned on wife's Toshiba with Sid. Mouse didn't work. Re-booted and it did. Never happened before. What do you think happened. Just curious 'bout these things. |
| 15:05.16 | nvz | I am just wondering if its even (properly) installed before anyone goes there |
| 15:05.39 | nvz | zebalin4: external mouse? |
| 15:06.06 | hans0lo | I need to run a X app on another computer over SSH. I enabled the forward x option in ssh_config, but it still won't allow me to ssh -X user@host xcalc |
| 15:06.19 | hans0lo | What step am I missing? |
| 15:06.30 | jethro | hans0lo: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 15:06.48 | nvz | zebalin4: this isnt windows we can fix things without rebooting. and we cant tell you what was wrong after you fixed it. had you not rebooted we could have examined kernel logs to track it down.. but there is really no way to tell now |
| 15:06.55 | nvz | cant fix something that isnt broke |
| 15:07.13 | jpinto | Hi, is there a list of raid controllers that 2.6 kernels support? So i can know what to buy? |
| 15:07.20 | nvz | external PS2 mice have to be connected before poweron or they will not work |
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| 15:07.33 | zamaliphe | i have tow repository how to select one of them using apt |
| 15:07.57 | nvz | zamaliphe: why? |
| 15:08.26 | mortal__ | the newest Xorg on sid says "process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0" |
| 15:08.30 | mortal__ | when started with startx |
| 15:09.08 | nvz | apt parses the sources.list in order and caches it on updates. then it gets the first available occurance of the newest version of a package in the cache |
| 15:09.10 | zamaliphe | nvz: like this aptitude -t arabian mplayer but with apt-get not aptitude |
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| 15:09.30 | nvz | o.O |
| 15:09.37 | nvz | you are not using debian I sense |
| 15:09.42 | Ronin | zamaliphe: no why so specific? who cares what repo it comes from |
| 15:09.53 | nvz | because he's not using debian? |
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| 15:10.06 | mortal__ | any clues? |
| 15:10.26 | asg | Mustard in the Conservatory with the Candlestick? |
| 15:10.29 | nvz | mortal__: does it really matter? |
| 15:10.32 | Ronin | asg: heh |
| 15:10.53 | bastioninc | what is best IRC client for KDE? |
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| 15:11.02 | Ronin | bastioninc: the one you like |
| 15:11.06 | nvz | I hate when people inquire about random messages as though they were critical errors without and context or reason for worrying about it |
| 15:11.12 | asg | mortal__: check /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 15:11.22 | bastioninc | Ronin: I am looking for Best |
| 15:11.26 | zamaliphe | bastioninc: konversation |
| 15:11.26 | asg | bastioninc: irssi-text in kterminal |
| 15:11.28 | Ronin | bastioninc: no such thing |
| 15:11.34 | mortal__ | asg: thanks |
| 15:11.35 | nvz | I couldnt possibly care if my priority is one point higher on an application |
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| 15:11.47 | zebalin4 | nvz: I was just looking for a 'guess'. I've never seen a mouse not work after boot in Linux (if it had worked earlier). |
| 15:11.51 | zamaliphe | bastioninc: konversation it is the best of all |
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| 15:12.08 | bastioninc | zamaliphe: thx, i will try |
| 15:12.27 | nvz | zebalin4: I gave you a guess, you plugged in your PS2 mouse after you booted the system which could damage the system not to mention simply cause the mouse not to be recognized |
| 15:12.45 | zamaliphe | bastioninc: you are welcome |
| 15:13.03 | linnuxxy | i've just installed sarge, i had exe "apt-get install enlightenment", and it had installed ok |
| 15:13.08 | nvz | zebalin4: dont waste our time. ask questions when you have information to back it up. dont fix things then ask us to guess what was wrong after you've hosed all the log files by rebooting |
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| 15:13.20 | bastioninc | What do you think about ksirc or xchat? |
| 15:13.29 | zamaliphe | nvz: can you help me or i will still have to use aptitude |
| 15:13.34 | linnuxxy | the "dpkg -l enlightenment" output is http://rafb.net/paste/results/z1Tnq329.html |
| 15:13.56 | Ronin | bastioninc: irc clients each have good and bad points not as good as irssi |
| 15:14.11 | linnuxxy | and there is no enlightment choice in gdm! |
| 15:14.17 | bastioninc | Ronin: Xirssi exist? |
| 15:14.29 | Ronin | bastioninc: dont know, did you search for it? |
| 15:14.29 | nvz | zamaliphe: you will have to use aptitude and seek help in your distro's support channel. because you did not provide enough information to explain one why you need to do this or specifically what you are trying to do. picking one source is done thorugh pinning /msg dpkg pinning |
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| 15:14.47 | hans0lo | jethro: I followed the instructions on sshx from dpkg. Still no work. Any suggestions? |
| 15:14.50 | nvz | you provided enough info for me to believe you do not run debian in the first place and that is all |
| 15:14.51 | bastioninc | Ronin: apt-cache search IRC | grep IRC |
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| 15:15.08 | jethro | hans0lo: you'd have to be more descriptive than "it doesn't work" if you want any help. |
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| 15:15.16 | source | Hi channel |
| 15:15.17 | mortal__ | asg: no joy |
| 15:15.25 | bastioninc | Hi source |
| 15:15.35 | source | hi bastioninc |
| 15:15.50 | asg | mortal__: well, see if the bts has any indication |
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| 15:16.09 | linnuxxy | how to test if the enlightenment is working or not? |
| 15:16.12 | source | Excuseme, I have the blocked the ftp. I need sources.list http for SID, SOmeone, please |
| 15:16.22 | hans0lo | jethro: I ssh -X user@host, try to run xcalc, and I get Error: Can't open display: |
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| 15:17.00 | nvz | answering the same questions for the same people dozens of times over is making me hungry and giving me the desire to make a sandwitch and walk off into the woods with my guitar and the sandwitch and pretend the internet doesnt exist |
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| 15:17.08 | jethro | hans0lo: either you miss xauth *on both sides* or you didn't allow X11Forwarding. |
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| 15:18.10 | nvz | which remindes me.. I came down here with only the strings on my guitar, no spares.. so I should probably put getting more strings on my things to do list :P |
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| 15:19.13 | MrKeuner | hi all, after a disk problem I now have some files under /lost+found what is a good way to find out which files they are and move them back to their places? |
| 15:19.27 | hans0lo | jethro: I got that much from dpkg. xauth is on both sides, X11Forwarding set to yes on the remote pc. I can ssh -X to another box and it works fine, so I assume the problem lies on the machine I'm currently trying to connect to. |
| 15:19.29 | untitled | hi, i can't install xorg, it shows all the packages (deps and xorg) and shows this: package-name but will not be installed. E: Broken packages |
| 15:19.30 | zamaliphe | nvz: thanks alot it is the same apt-get -t arabian install mplayer |
| 15:19.30 | nvz | prayer might help :P |
| 15:19.36 | asg | MrKeuner: file, less |
| 15:19.56 | jethro | hans0lo: then I suspect a PEBCAK |
| 15:20.08 | hans0lo | jethro: PEBCAK? |
| 15:20.11 | asg | MrKeuner: if you happen to have a list of files and the information (filesize, etc) available, comparing to that helps |
| 15:20.14 | asg | !pebcak |
| 15:20.15 | dpkg | methinks pebcak is Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard |
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| 15:21.01 | MrKeuner | asg/ doesn't dpkg keep hashcodes for each file somewhere? |
| 15:21.05 | hans0lo | jethro: Then I suspect you don't have a clue how to fix it and wont' admit that. |
| 15:21.13 | jethro | hans0lo: whatever. |
| 15:21.17 | asg | MrKeuner: debsums |
| 15:21.20 | hans0lo | jethro: exactly. |
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| 15:22.03 | jethro | hans0lo: at least I don't need to ask a support channel to fix this, and I know dpkg's factoid is accurate. so if it still "doesn't work" to quote your own words, I don't know what to say other than pebcak. feel free to wait for other helpers :) |
| 15:22.09 | asg | MrKeuner: that only helps if the files in /lost+found are debian packaged files; you'll have to use file, less, and strings to identify the others. |
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| 15:22.35 | Phlexonance | how can I see if a usb port is 2.0? |
| 15:22.43 | nvz | zamaliphe: well good luck with that. just know that I am making a note that you are pulling packages from a non-debian beta distribution and if you are using debian you are tainting it, and either way you are streching your support privlages from debian users. I refuse to help you with things like that. if you had asked a proper question I would have directed you to an official debian... |
| 15:22.50 | nvz | ...solution for it. |
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| 15:24.42 | MrKeuner | asg/ how would file help? |
| 15:25.05 | Gnea | wow. |
| 15:25.05 | asg | MrKeuner: it would tell you the type of file, might jog your memory |
| 15:25.16 | Gnea | nvz: how do these idiots get in? |
| 15:25.34 | nvz | Gnea: someone left the door open I guess |
| 15:25.46 | MrKeuner | asg/ ok thank you |
| 15:25.50 | asg | MrKeuner: you're welcome |
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| 15:26.03 | jpinto | raid controller for linux 2.6, any hints? |
| 15:26.11 | Gnea | nvz: stupid freedom. i mean, there should be an admission price ;) |
| 15:26.19 | worstenboy | i dont understand this : mysql-server-4.1: Depends: mailx |
| 15:26.27 | worstenboy | why does it depends mailx :| |
| 15:26.34 | Gnea | worstenboy: because it does. |
| 15:26.48 | nvz | Gnea: I couldnt even answer the question from an apt stantpoint without understanding what the hell the point was to begin with, and as a debian user I prefer to answer it in a debian-compliant manner |
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| 15:26.59 | asg | worstenboy: because it sends email alerts |
| 15:27.02 | worstenboy | mailx: Depends: exim4 but it is not going to be installed or |
| 15:27.03 | worstenboy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.08 | Gnea | worstenboy: it's a daemon, it has to send reports somehow. email is a good transport for it. |
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| 15:27.26 | worstenboy | i understand but i keep on going deeper in unmet depency's :s |
| 15:27.29 | nvz | Gnea: which requires me to know what they are actually trying to do beyond tainting their system to achieve something I can probably accomplish more sanely |
| 15:27.53 | asg | worstenboy: then you are running sid (you should know what to do) or you mixed your sources (and broke your system) |
| 15:28.41 | worstenboy | well i realy dont know, i'm doin this trough apt... it started with apt-get upgrade |
| 15:28.41 | Phlexonance | how can I see if a usb port is 2.0? |
| 15:28.42 | Gnea | nvz: i sense some sort of uneducated movement that will try to undermine the system to mask false pretenses using a set of structured lies. |
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| 15:28.57 | nvz | Gnea: its in general aggrivating when people ask questions they've already propsed solutions to, its even worse when the solutions arent sane. Offering the solution in the question sounds like self-help to me, and if you could do it yourself you wouldnt need help |
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| 15:29.15 | Gnea | nvz: but wait, isn't that the american way? |
| 15:29.19 | nvz | heh |
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| 15:29.28 | Gnea | :) |
| 15:29.30 | nvz | screw americans.. I need to leave this country |
| 15:29.36 | asg | worstenboy: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in the paster bot |
| 15:30.11 | nvz | with each moment passed, I grow more disgusted with my people |
| 15:30.37 | asg | "My people of Parador" |
| 15:30.56 | sussudio | is there a point in removing and replacing thermal paste after a certain time? |
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| 15:31.12 | worstenboy | asg http ://channels.debian.net/paste/2467 |
| 15:31.15 | Gnea | sussudio: is it moldy? |
| 15:31.17 | nvz | sussudio: are you asking if it burns off :P |
| 15:31.22 | Phlexonance | pushin the termal paste industry |
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| 15:31.54 | sussudio | Gnea: i just noticed it says that this ceramic stuff i bought is good for 2 years after opening... i wondered if it's the same when it's on the cpu. |
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| 15:32.09 | sussudio | nvz: i was thinking more of drying out |
| 15:32.23 | Gnea | sussudio: probably |
| 15:32.24 | nvz | sussudio: lick it .. heh |
| 15:32.27 | asg | worstenboy: well first of all, sarge doesn't have non-us anymore so comment that out and apt-get update |
| 15:32.42 | sussudio | nvz: it says 'do not ingest' on the packaging :-| |
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| 15:32.54 | nvz | sussudio: yeah well thats for wussies |
| 15:32.54 | sussudio | nvz: that means people have tried that before. |
| 15:32.58 | nvz | hehe |
| 15:33.07 | Phlexonance | no one having an idead how to check if an usb port is 2.0 ? |
| 15:33.10 | sussudio | kawfee, probably. |
| 15:33.23 | sussudio | Phlexonance: look at the motherboard specs? |
| 15:33.29 | nvz | sussudio: probably. I dont really have anything modern enough to have thermal paste.. so I dont know much about it |
| 15:33.34 | asg | sussudio: too bad the produce section doesn't have stickers saying "Don't stick this cucumber up your ass" |
| 15:33.37 | thom_ | nvz: What is the command to momentarily switch to root? |
| 15:33.43 | nvz | asg: haha |
| 15:33.49 | sussudio | asg: it might in kansas |
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| 15:34.06 | sussudio | nvz: i was also wondering if there's a point in using this paste on pentium 2's since i have a tube of it. |
| 15:34.08 | nvz | thom_: su, sudo, gksu, gnome-sudo ..etc |
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| 15:34.24 | asg | sussudio: you're probably thinking about Iowa; kansas is very cosmopolitan by comparison |
| 15:34.44 | sussudio | the store just 'happened' to be out of generic 1.50 euro paste and only had this 7.50 ceramic stuff. |
| 15:34.53 | myren | anyone have suggestions for FUSE based remote file systems? |
| 15:34.53 | opensores | Sarge lets me install 1.1.6-2 of speex but I need >= 1.1.12, what is the best way to install this? |
| 15:35.01 | myren | i was using sshfs but the fucker leaks memory like a sieve |
| 15:35.12 | stew | opensores: /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 15:35.29 | worstenboy | well asg i did update, upgrade an all problems solved but how could i prevented this ? |
| 15:36.05 | asg | worstenboy: by not putting non-us sources in sarge and higher, and running 'apt-get update' before installing anything. |
| 15:36.06 | Phlexonance | what was this nice tool called, 2 characters, capable of copying files from different fs types and stuff like that |
| 15:36.16 | asg | Phlexonance: dd |
| 15:36.32 | worstenboy | i understand, thank you very much! |
| 15:36.35 | Phlexonance | asg, right, thanks |
| 15:36.36 | asg | worstenboy: you're welcome |
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| 15:36.41 | asg | Phlexonance: you're welcome |
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| 15:36.59 | foxmjay | wich package contain pppd please help me |
| 15:37.12 | nvz | sussudio: the wikipedia article seems informative.. and shows that the answer to does it dry up..etc may depend on the type of compound used. but the primary reason for use is to conduct heat to the heatsink and keep the electronics cool which couldnt hurt in any situation. cool systems are a good thing |
| 15:37.50 | jethro | !tell foxmjay -about search |
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| 15:38.02 | tombs | please, whats the command to see a pcmcia device? |
| 15:38.06 | sussudio | nvz: i haven't really figured out how to remove the cooling block from this slot-a athlon. it doesn't seem to be the same as with slot-1's |
| 15:38.23 | zebalin4 | nvz: get a life |
| 15:38.53 | nvz | sussudio: hmm the one I had had a fold down clip on the top |
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| 15:39.16 | nvz | heh. I got more life than you have brains |
| 15:39.19 | sussudio | nvz: the slot-1 pentium 2's that i have do that, yes. |
| 15:39.36 | nvz | nice try getting support for a beta version of a debian knock off in #debian though |
| 15:39.50 | Piggy | O RLY? |
| 15:40.05 | nvz | sussudio: na, the one I bought for my cousin was a Slot-a 800mhz Athlon |
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| 15:40.12 | sussudio | hmm |
| 15:40.20 | nvz | sussudio: seems to work the same way |
| 15:40.25 | sussudio | nvz: mine is a slot-a 800mhz too but it has no clip |
| 15:40.36 | foxmjay | jethro wich search |
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| 15:41.01 | sussudio | nvz: i should probably leave it alone since the temperatures don't get that high... max 40C |
| 15:41.03 | asg | !give Piggy a bacon sandwich |
| 15:41.12 | Piggy | :-| |
| 15:41.14 | foxmjay | i want know how to find the package of pppd |
| 15:41.26 | nvz | sussudio: hmm I left the thing at home.. I actually have it right now I am suppose to be "working on it" for him.. he wanted me to bring it up to date and clean out all his pr0n and shit :P |
| 15:41.29 | sussudio | foxmjay: i believe that is the name, yes |
| 15:41.37 | asg | foxmjay: it's called 'ppp' |
| 15:41.39 | nvz | sussudio: he's probably still running woody on there :P |
| 15:41.51 | sussudio | nvz: dd if=/dev/badger of=/dev/hda ? |
| 15:42.15 | asg | sussudio: wang |
| 15:42.16 | foxmjay | ok thanx |
| 15:42.23 | sussudio | it's a wang? |
| 15:42.40 | asg | sussudio: that's what you get when you wipe your badger on /dev/hda |
| 15:42.45 | sussudio | i thought wang stopped making pc's after the 486 |
| 15:42.51 | sussudio | i have some of them here. |
| 15:43.30 | sussudio | wang maxi desktop... basically it's a tower that fell over. |
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| 15:43.43 | asg | sussudio: sounds like my dx2/50 |
| 15:43.49 | sussudio | fits 6x5.25 half height i think |
| 15:44.06 | sussudio | it even has room for a redundant power supply |
| 15:44.15 | Gnea | asg: i miss my dx2/66 :( |
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| 15:44.32 | asg | Gnea: I miss mine but I don't miss the ex-fiancee it went with |
| 15:44.37 | Gnea | asg: hahaha |
| 15:44.41 | sussudio | i built a legacy dx2-66 with floppy drives, tape drives, etc. |
| 15:44.51 | Phlexonance | how can I copy a whole directory with the 'dd' command |
| 15:44.53 | asg | Gnea: I upgraded to a P/200 anyway ;) |
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| 15:45.03 | sussudio | it has a WANGTEK tapedrive... qic-36 |
| 15:45.05 | nvz | sussudio: thats funny, a tower that fell over :P |
| 15:45.06 | asg | Phlexonance: you are better of using cp -a or tar |
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| 15:45.21 | sussudio | badgerwangtek |
| 15:45.26 | Gnea | that's wangtastick |
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| 15:45.45 | asg | "This punch tastes like it has a little wang in it" -- Hollywood Nights |
| 15:45.57 | Mr_Molez | is there an easy way to make php work with debian apache ? |
| 15:45.57 | asg | *Knights |
| 15:46.10 | Gnea | Mr_Molez: it doesn't work? |
| 15:46.10 | asg | Mr_Molez: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 php4 apache |
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| 15:46.32 | Gnea | !php4 |
| 15:46.32 | dpkg | it has been said that php4 is php scripting language, or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200303/msg00006.html |
| 15:46.38 | Gnea | !php |
| 15:46.39 | dpkg | methinks php is not asp. Can't get php to work? Remember that php3 looks for the extension .php3 ! .php is for php4 To change this, edit the mime type in httpd.conf. Get php4-mysql if you want mysql support too, or oh, and make sure to uncomment the php module from httpd.conf !!, or for php4, make sure this line is in httpd.conf: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so, or remember, there are quite a few debian users in #php, or puke |
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| 15:46.47 | Phlexonance | asg, I'd like to use dd because it shows the speed |
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| 15:47.07 | asg | Phlexonance: yes but dd only works on raw data. It doesn't know anything about filesystem structure. |
| 15:47.26 | Mr_Molez | gnnah dont work |
| 15:47.33 | Mr_Molez | nevermind ill figure it out thanks |
| 15:47.38 | asg | Phlexonance: rsync is good and fast for cloning directories as is the standard unix dump/restore |
| 15:47.56 | asg | Mr_Molez: flush your browser cache also |
| 15:48.07 | Gnea | Mr_Molez: recheck your configs and make sure you restart using the /etc/init.d/ method after an edit |
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| 15:48.22 | Phlexonance | asg, thx I'll try that |
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| 15:52.28 | Unetixs | hi all. I just installed a new printer with the CUPS web-based interface, and all my jobs are getting cancelled. Anyone ever have that happen before? What can I do to fix it? |
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| 15:54.44 | pego | hi i'm looking for help about ipsec/racoon. is IPsec activated in kernel-image on debian ? |
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| 15:56.34 | Phlexonance | how can I see which process is accesing a specific device |
| 15:56.46 | asg | Phlexonance: fuser, lsof |
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| 15:58.21 | Phlexonance | asg, thx |
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| 16:03.36 | nile | what's the diff between the 'ati' driver and the 'radeon' driver for X? does 'ati' refer to whatever x ships with, and 'radeon' refer to the in-kernel dri driver? |
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| 16:03.52 | Gnea | !ati |
| 16:03.54 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 16:04.11 | Gnea | !radeon |
| 16:04.11 | dpkg | somebody said radeon was the name of some videocards by ATI. There are different types: R100 chipset (e.g radeon VE,SDR,DDR,LE,7000,7200), R200 (e.g. radeon 8500,8500LE,8800), R250 (e.g. radeon 9000) and R300 (e.g. radeon 9700,9700pro). Use the 'radeon' xfree86 driver, for 3d accel with a r200 use driver from dri.sf.net CVS or ATI own (closed-source) fireGL driver. r250/r300 not yet supported, or http://www.reades.com/radeon.html |
| 16:04.23 | nile | thanks Gnea (and dpkg) |
| 16:04.23 | dpkg | nile: my pleasure |
| 16:04.30 | tarzeau | dpkg forget ati |
| 16:04.33 | Gnea | lol |
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| 16:04.41 | tarzeau | dpkg ati is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
| 16:04.41 | dpkg | ...but ati is already something else... |
| 16:04.46 | tarzeau | dpkg ati is also http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
| 16:04.46 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
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| 16:05.07 | tarzeau | Gnea: the ati stuff of flavio is so outdated and not recommended by #ati guys |
| 16:05.27 | Gnea | tarzeau: ah ok |
| 16:05.33 | flosch | hi |
| 16:05.51 | Gnea | wattup |
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| 16:05.58 | asg | catsup |
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| 16:06.29 | Gnea | tuna sauce |
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| 16:07.16 | nile | I'm still confused. there's an "ati" driver (not fglrx, not radeon) in X (debconf said so). what's that for? |
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| 16:07.32 | Gnea | nile: it's a generic driver |
| 16:07.51 | rockstar_ | Does anyone know a good site so I can figure out how to set up my dual head video card? |
| 16:07.54 | nile | Gnea, would I use it if I didn't want 3d accel or anything fancy? |
| 16:08.03 | asg | Gnea: tuna sauce is a generic driver? Is that like Sun's HME happy meal driver? |
| 16:08.04 | Gnea | nile: yes |
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| 16:08.12 | nile | Gnea, thanks a lot |
| 16:08.20 | Gnea | nile: you're welcome |
| 16:08.35 | Gnea | asg: i think you can find them at Fry's |
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| 16:08.55 | asg | Gnea: ah |
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| 16:09.01 | Gnea | :) |
| 16:09.04 | Unetixs | Is there anything better than CUPS, or any applications that make interfacing with cups easier? |
| 16:09.14 | tarzeau | Unetixs: no |
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| 16:09.17 | Gnea | Unetixs: foomatic-gui |
| 16:09.18 | shogunx | ls |
| 16:09.37 | Gnea | Unetixs: CUPS is the standard, and it has its own gui too |
| 16:09.39 | Gnea | !cups |
| 16:09.39 | dpkg | from memory, cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it. what breast size?, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
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| 16:10.38 | Unetixs | I'm having some problems with it. It's automatically cancelling all jobs to my local printer |
| 16:10.45 | Gnea | Unetixs: there's also lpr and lpr-ng, but i don't know why you'd want to bother with those |
| 16:10.47 | kbr | rockstar_: man xorg.conf |
| 16:11.00 | Gnea | Unetixs: is that what the job report says? |
| 16:11.06 | Gnea | Unetixs: what printer is it? |
| 16:11.06 | Unetixs | Gnea: yes |
| 16:11.10 | rockstar_ | kbr: Everyone knows man files are for the most part large and cumbersome. |
| 16:11.12 | Unetixs | Gnea: The HP 5550 |
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| 16:11.37 | Gnea | Unetixs: have you been to linuxprinting.org? |
| 16:11.46 | Unetixs | Gnea: telling cups that it is a deskjet, it seems to be trying to print in postscript. I don't know if my printer can handle postscript |
| 16:11.49 | asg | rockstar_: x-files are large an cumbersome, manpages are terse and informative |
| 16:11.52 | Unetixs | Gnea: I'll check it out now |
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| 16:12.45 | Gnea | Unetixs: you need to specify what sort of printer it is, not just the '5550' |
| 16:13.02 | Gnea | Unetixs: inkjet? |
| 16:13.04 | Unetixs | Gnea: I said it was a HP Deskjet |
| 16:13.17 | rockstar_ | Has anyoneI can navigate an X file much easier than try to find the information I need in a man page. |
| 16:13.18 | Unetixs | Gnea: that's all cups asked for |
| 16:13.33 | Unetixs | I feel like a damn moron, I swear I'm not stupid |
| 16:13.47 | rockstar_ | No one's done a dual monitor setup here? |
| 16:13.53 | Gnea | Unetixs: ok, deskjet - that's important |
| 16:13.55 | kbr | rockstar_: manpages is the best you can get for unix ;-) |
| 16:14.21 | Gnea | Unetixs: this is probably supported by hpijs then |
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| 16:14.42 | kbr | rockstar_: yes i did. What do you want to know? |
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| 16:14.53 | Unetixs | Gnea: How would I install the hpjis driver in Debian? |
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| 16:15.29 | Gnea | Unetixs: HP finally made their own interface with CUPS that includes a GUI for linux - it's very well done: apt-get install hplip hplip-ppds |
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| 16:16.00 | Gnea | Unetixs: use it with cups to setup, then hp-toolbox can control everything from there |
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| 16:16.08 | Unetixs | hplip-ppds doesn't exist |
| 16:16.13 | Gnea | oh |
| 16:16.16 | Gnea | are you on sarge? |
| 16:16.22 | Unetixs | yep |
| 16:16.23 | Gnea | !info hplip |
| 16:16.26 | dpkg | hplip: (HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP)), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.10-1 (sid), Packaged size: 522 kB, Installed size: 2292 kB |
| 16:16.38 | Unetixs | !info hplip-pds |
| 16:16.41 | Unetixs | !info hplip-ppds |
| 16:16.58 | Gnea | yeah, looks like it's in sid but not sarge - maybe there's a backport |
| 16:16.59 | Gnea | !backport |
| 16:17.00 | dpkg | well, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 16:17.34 | stew | apt-get.org has backports? |
| 16:17.39 | rockstar_ | kbr: Just want a good howto that explains JUST what I need. |
| 16:17.49 | asg | stew: it did |
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| 16:18.02 | MaDDoG | hiz |
| 16:18.07 | rockstar_ | I don't someone to hold my hand, just a good source, a "consolidated man page" of sorts. |
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| 16:18.16 | superlinux | hi all |
| 16:18.27 | Dr_O | foomatUnetixs: ic-filters-ppds |
| 16:18.36 | Gnea | Unetixs: http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/hplip |
| 16:18.36 | Dr_O | Unetixs: foomatic-filters-ppds |
| 16:18.57 | Gnea | Dr_O: what? |
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| 16:19.29 | MaDDoG | im trying to do a simple script "eraser". I need to check if the file that i put as argument (erase "file") is *.x, if it is delete it, if not, echo "error", how would it be the condition for the IF? |
| 16:19.42 | grendal_prime | jabber is a pain in the ass, i cant get it to work to save my live |
| 16:19.47 | grendal_prime | life that is |
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| 16:19.52 | Dr_O | /usr/share/cups/model/foomatic-ppds/HP/HP-DeskJet_5550-hpijs.ppd.gz is in sarge package foomatic-filters-ppds |
| 16:20.00 | frederick | does anyone know how I can install win 32 codecs |
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| 16:20.07 | nile | Gnea, what about jabber? setting up a server? |
| 16:20.08 | asg | frederick: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 16:20.18 | nile | Gnea, sorry, bad tab-completion |
| 16:20.19 | Gnea | nile: no idea |
| 16:20.24 | Gnea | :) |
| 16:20.28 | nile | grendal_prime, what about jabber? setting up a server? |
| 16:20.35 | asg | frederick: /msg dpkg w32codecs |
| 16:20.40 | grendal_prime | nile, ya |
| 16:20.41 | kbr | rockstar_: sorry i don?t know, i used the manpages... |
| 16:20.42 | grendal_prime | you got one? |
| 16:20.53 | Gnea | Dr_O: hplip-ppds has it too, and is much more complete. |
| 16:20.55 | nile | grendal_prime, used to - ejabberd worked well enough for me |
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| 16:21.12 | grendal_prime | it seems to be up and running i can telnet into it, but when i try and connect to it i get a protocol error |
| 16:21.12 | stew | rockstar_: google for xinerama howto |
| 16:21.32 | grendal_prime | sorry, when i try to connect to it with a Client app that is |
| 16:22.02 | nile | grendal_prime, ejabberd? |
| 16:22.07 | bastioninc | hello channel |
| 16:22.40 | Gnea | 09:22 -!- There is no such nick channel |
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| 16:23.29 | MaDDoG | im trying to do a simple script "eraser". I need to check if the file that i put as argument (erase "file") is *.x, if it is delete it, if not, echo "error", how would it be the condition for the IF in bash-script? |
| 16:23.42 | nile | grendal_prime, have you made sure that the proper ports are open? |
| 16:23.44 | grendal_prime | nile no just jabberd the one that is packaed with debian sarge |
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| 16:23.59 | grendal_prime | no firewall on that machine |
| 16:24.13 | Gnea | !tell MaDDoG about newbiedoc |
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| 16:24.49 | grendal_prime | when i port scan it i get nothing on 5222 but when i telnet to that port it connects, and ive run the xml script to test it and it comes back with the proper response |
| 16:25.06 | raf256 | can I use linux like X terminal? |
| 16:25.06 | raf256 | to connect to a box with X server / gdm, see the gdm login screen, then see Kde desktop and so on, how to? |
| 16:25.09 | grendal_prime | but when i try and connect to it with like kopete using the jabber protocol. error |
| 16:26.41 | raf256 | I have a debian desktop, and on debian laptop I want to _fully_ connect to desktop, to see desktop's GDM login window, then see entire KDE desktop on laptop's monitor and so on |
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| 16:26.59 | superlinux | I made a shell script to check for unique connections to my pppoe-server. this means I don't allow 2 or more sessions for the same username using a check list.. I am afraid that if in my area there is an electrical power-down the ppp/ip-down.d won't work.. will it work? |
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| 16:27.14 | Unetixs | raf256: you have to direct the display of the Xserver on the client to the xserver of the server |
| 16:27.19 | lazzarello | I'm looking for a hardware RAID controller with hotswap ability that has open source drivers. Does such a thing exist and are the utilities in Debian? |
| 16:27.26 | tralala | raf256: do you want that for an existing X session or you want a new one for the laptop? |
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| 16:27.30 | Unetixs | raf256: one of these days I will do that but I haven't done it yet. I have done X-forwarding though |
| 16:27.40 | raf256 | tralala: it might be a new one |
| 16:27.53 | raf256 | tralala: but it would be cool to like proxy (clone a view), record the view... |
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| 16:27.58 | raf256 | is vcn best for that? |
| 16:28.10 | raf256 | how to setup (apt-get what) vcn, on client and on server, both debian |
| 16:28.15 | ddfire | hi, i cant use the X server in a laptop whit wide screen some one know anything about? |
| 16:28.21 | Pryon | On server, x11vnc |
| 16:28.21 | c459s | I am having some guys who try to bruteforce their way into my server through sshd. They use multiple ip's and just try out random usernames/passwords. (Quite stupid technique if you ask me). However, I would like my sshd to allow say up to 5 failed login attempts and then block the ip alltogether through iptables for like 30 minutes. Is there any tools I can use to achive this? |
| 16:28.26 | tralala | raf256: kde has a build-in desktop sharing app. |
| 16:28.33 | tarzeau | !seen nutmeg |
| 16:28.34 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'nutmeg', tarzeau |
| 16:28.37 | bbrazil | c459s: fail2ban is one |
| 16:28.49 | stew | lazzarello: you can do this with 3ware cards which have mainline kernel support ; and afaik just about any scsi raid controller can handle this but i can't say for sure from experience like i can with 3ware |
| 16:28.50 | raf256 | tralala: but I think I prefer vcn, it is the most powerfull one right? |
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| 16:29.22 | CoolCubix | c459s> there is an option in the OpenSSH daemon config file to forbid this |
| 16:29.22 | raf256 | so, anyone uses that? |
| 16:29.26 | Pryon | raf256: x11vnc servers display :0 vial vnc |
| 16:29.33 | raf256 | Pryon: huh? |
| 16:29.37 | Pryon | s/vial/via/ |
| 16:29.45 | raf256 | Pryon: I apt-get install "vcn" on both, what next? |
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| 16:30.09 | raf256 | wait |
| 16:30.12 | nile | c459s, there is also the "AllowUsers" option. man |
| 16:30.12 | Pryon | you need to 'apt-get install x11vnc' on the server |
| 16:30.15 | nile | c459s, there is also the "AllowUsers" option. |
| 16:30.23 | raf256 | Pryon: but I use xorg |
| 16:30.32 | CoolCubix | c459s> "MaxAuthTries 3" for example. in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file |
| 16:30.48 | Pryon | raf256: I don't know that it makes a difference |
| 16:30.51 | tralala | raf256: afaik vnc is for new sessions only. |
| 16:31.04 | CoolCubix | c459s> you maybe want to enable "PermitRootLogin no"... |
| 16:31.11 | lazzarello | stew, thanks. damn SCSI drives being all expensive n'shit. |
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| 16:31.17 | Pryon | x11vnc is specifically for sharing display :0 |
| 16:31.18 | c459s | Thanks guys, I'll check out these options. |
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| 16:31.25 | stew | lazzarello: 3ware cards are ide/sata controllers |
| 16:31.27 | Pryon | (the current session) |
| 16:31.32 | CoolCubix | c459s> have a look to the man page for more info ;) |
| 16:31.42 | lazzarello | stew, the LSI and 3ware SATA controllers have binary-only utilities to control the disks in an array. |
| 16:31.51 | raf256 | I have to run vnc server on serwer right? |
| 16:31.54 | nile | sshd_config(5) is great bedtime reading :) |
| 16:31.56 | _joe | on stable i can install x-window-system-dev to get the X dev. headers. what's the corresponding package on testing? |
| 16:31.59 | raf256 | and what to do on client? server is 192.168.1.1 |
| 16:32.31 | nile | raf256, get a vnc viewer, like, say, tightvncviewer |
| 16:32.34 | Pryon | Just x11vnc, no other vnc server needs to run |
| 16:32.40 | raf256 | nile: ok |
| 16:32.42 | Pryon | use any vncviewer on the client |
| 16:32.54 | raf256 | thanks I will try it now |
| 16:32.58 | raf256 | is it secure? |
| 16:33.04 | raf256 | it uses ssh for all operations? |
| 16:33.11 | nile | raf256, nope. tunnel it over ssh |
| 16:33.17 | raf256 | nile: how? |
| 16:33.47 | nile | raf256, I'm not good at explaining that sort of stuff, but Google knows about 2 dozen or so howto's ;) |
| 16:33.56 | raf256 | ok |
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| 16:34.18 | nile | raf256, sorry, I honestly don't understand it enough to explain. don't take that as a "RFTM, NOOB" kind of comment :) |
| 16:34.30 | stew | raf256: you want to look at the -L option to ssh |
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| 16:35.21 | Pryon | raf256: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/#faq-ssh-unix |
| 16:35.27 | Pryon | From the x11vnc man page |
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| 16:39.56 | prudhvi | How do i set Modprobe such that the module gets loaded each time i boot my Pc. the module i want to load is ndiswrapper |
| 16:40.14 | asg | prudhvi: put the module name in /etc/modules |
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| 16:40.56 | prudhvi | asg, you mean just an entry like ndiswrapper will do ? |
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| 16:41.02 | jengelh | After upgrading samba, smbd runs again even though I had it disabled! What's it with apt-get/dpkg? |
| 16:41.14 | asg | prudhvi: yes. The comments at the top of the file provide instructions |
| 16:42.14 | asg | jengelh: how did you disable it? |
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| 16:43.14 | nile | jengelh, change the appropriate file in /etc/default/ instead of using update-rc.d to have your changes be persistent across upgrades |
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| 16:43.22 | nile | yeah, I don't like it either |
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| 16:44.41 | jengelh | # How should Samba (smbd) run? Possible values are "daemons" or "inetd". // And how to disable it then? |
| 16:45.09 | prudhvi | it is kinda strange i dont have any /dev/dsp file :? |
| 16:45.29 | nile | prudhvi, depends ;) do you use udev or devfsd or neither? |
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| 16:45.39 | asg | jengelh: use use update-rc.d to remove the existing links. Then, create a K link manually in runlevel 6 and apt-get/dpkg won't recreate the links on an upgrade. The assumption is that if you didn't want it running, you wouldn't have installed it. |
| 16:45.49 | prudhvi | nile, i guess it is udev |
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| 16:47.37 | grendal_prime | nile, im assuming the jabber protol is supported by default.? |
| 16:47.59 | nile | grendal_prime, by what? kopete? or jabberd? |
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| 16:48.42 | _joe | on stable i can install x-window-system-dev to get the X dev. headers. anyone happen to know what the corresponding package is for testing? |
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| 16:49.39 | stew | _joe: there is no one single package with all of x dev libraries anymore, you need to install whichever individual parts you actually need |
| 16:50.56 | _joe | stew: aha. thanks :) |
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| 16:51.22 | xface | hello how can i add greek support ? |
| 16:51.48 | nile | Debian+GNU+Linux rocks. my laptop (with X running) is using TWELVE mb of RAM |
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| 16:51.59 | nile | 12!! |
| 16:52.06 | asg | xface: /msg dpkg gr (try those channels first) |
| 16:52.26 | xface | who is dpkg ? |
| 16:52.31 | asg | xface: our bot |
| 16:52.36 | stew | !what are you |
| 16:52.36 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 16:52.41 | xface | lol :) |
| 16:53.13 | asg | nile: I remember running slackware on a laptop with 4 in '96 |
| 16:54.03 | superlinux | I made a shell script to check for unique connections to my pppoe-server. this means I don't allow 2 or more sessions for the same username using a check list.. I am afraid that if in my area there is an electrical power-down the ppp/ip-down.d won't work.. will it work? the powerdown of my clients might not let the user be removed from the check list smoothly |
| 16:54.09 | grendal_prime | nile, jabberd |
| 16:54.10 | grendal_prime | i found repository that has ejabberd on it |
| 16:54.12 | nile | asg, you mean 4mb used, or 4mb in the system? I'm assuming the former, but the latter would be way impressive |
| 16:54.13 | c459s | Coolcubix: There doesnt seem to be any "MaxAuthTries" option in the sshd_config that comes with stable.. |
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| 16:54.35 | nile | grendal_prime, maybe you should just give ejabberd a try - it was a pretty simple setup for me |
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| 16:54.37 | asg | nile: 4mb in the system. The kernel was much smaller back then |
| 16:54.45 | grendal_prime | im installing it, now is it some sort of complimenting app to the regular jabberd or should i uninstall jabberd? |
| 16:54.48 | Anthro | Is there a quick way of discovering how much disk space a particular installed package is using? |
| 16:54.50 | xface | guys noone si there |
| 16:54.53 | asg | nile: if you are talking about drive space, I think it was around 10M or so |
| 16:55.05 | nile | asg, that's amazing |
| 16:55.07 | nile | I'm in awe |
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| 16:55.33 | grendal_prime | Anthro, you running a desktop? |
| 16:55.36 | asg | nile: don't be, we build a Internet gateway server for a BBS using a P/90 with 16M (that was powerful) :) |
| 16:55.36 | nile | grendal_prime, ejabberd is its own implementation, you don't need jabberd anymore |
| 16:55.47 | asg | *built |
| 16:55.50 | nile | haha |
| 16:55.50 | grendal_prime | cool thanks nile |
| 16:55.50 | Anthro | grendal_prime: At the moment I am ssh'd in. |
| 16:55.55 | nile | grendal_prime, sure thing |
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| 16:57.08 | grendal_prime | ok apt will give you the info on the package |
| 16:57.14 | grendal_prime | that was for Anthro |
| 16:57.19 | nile | Anthro, you could use 'dpkg-query -s packagename' and look for the 'Installed-Size' line |
| 16:57.33 | grendal_prime | there ya go not apt but dpkg sorry |
| 16:57.45 | stew | Anthro: grep-status -sInstalled-Size -P packagename |
| 16:57.59 | Anthro | nile: Thanks. That's in k, I assume...? |
| 16:58.07 | grendal_prime | thats the reason i dont usually GIVE info here..i usually fk it up |
| 16:58.08 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
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| 16:58.35 | grendal_prime | nile what is erlang? |
| 16:58.37 | nile | Anthro, what's a k? |
| 16:58.38 | Anthro | stew: I don't seem to have grep-status. |
| 16:58.41 | asg | !erlang |
| 16:58.42 | Anthro | nile: kilobytes. |
| 16:58.54 | stew | Anthro: it's in the grep-dctrl pacakge |
| 16:59.00 | nile | Anthro, I assume so |
| 16:59.05 | asg | grendal_prime: apt-cache show erlang |
| 16:59.32 | nile | grendal_prime, it's the language that ejabberd is written in (hence the 'e') |
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| 17:01.41 | grendal_prime | ya reading about it now |
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| 17:02.09 | zwerg | Hi there. |
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| 17:02.53 | grendal_prime | i wonder if this ericsson is the same companny that makes the phones? |
| 17:03.01 | nile | grendal_prime, what ericsson? |
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| 17:03.15 | grendal_prime | would be interesting, if they just have there own progging lang |
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| 17:03.26 | grendal_prime | ericsson computer science laboratory |
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| 17:04.03 | nile | grendal_prime, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlang_programming_language, it's the same ericsson :) |
| 17:04.27 | grendal_prime | interesting |
| 17:04.48 | zwerg | LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxgears gives me: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/r128_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_get_dispatch with latest unstable. Is libGL out of sync with r128_dri right now? |
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| 17:04.51 | dnell | clear |
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| 17:05.48 | grendal_prime | nile, its a fatty download 13 megs..and that server is slow.. |
| 17:05.48 | zwerg | Sorry, glxinfo. |
| 17:05.58 | dnell | is 'deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free' the same as 'deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free' ? |
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| 17:07.09 | cheal | dnell: it should |
| 17:07.47 | frederick | what package has a plugin for mozilla to play streaming video |
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| 17:08.28 | tarzeau | frederick: mplayer-plugin.sf.net ? |
| 17:08.50 | dnell | how do i upgrade from r1 to r2? |
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| 17:10.07 | cheal | dnell: # apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 17:10.12 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:10.13 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:10.14 | MaDDoG | I have a string for example foo.bar , is there any function in bashscript to extract .bar and show it through standart output? (in case bar.foo it would show .foo) |
| 17:10.22 | cheal | frederick: kaffeine-mozilla? |
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| 17:11.33 | dnell | cheal: will 'apt-get upgrade' get me to 'unstable/testing' ? |
| 17:11.52 | cheal | dnell: not unless you added unstable/testing APT sources |
| 17:11.56 | dnell | oh ok |
| 17:11.59 | dnell | imma try it |
| 17:12.00 | dnell | brb |
| 17:12.33 | grendal_prime | im getting the same error with that server |
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| 17:12.52 | grendal_prime | nile, there must be something i am just not undertanding about this server |
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| 17:13.07 | grendal_prime | do you HAVE to have the mysql backend support for this thing to work? |
| 17:13.19 | jmp_m | can you belive this?! it's about permissions, not much to read; http://ping.out.lag.in/VERYstrange.txt |
| 17:13.20 | grendal_prime | i would much rather use pg if possible. |
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| 17:13.39 | jmp_m | I'm having trouble with permissions: http://ping.out.lag.in/VERYstrange.txt |
| 17:14.04 | grendal_prime | if i scann that machine i get nothing on the 5222 port. |
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| 17:14.20 | grendal_prime | i see note that there i s a web interface for configuring it? |
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| 17:16.04 | Mr_Molez | i did dkpg-reconfigure locales... but when i do apt-get it still show german instead of english , can anyone else ? |
| 17:16.07 | Mr_Molez | else = help |
| 17:16.58 | stew | Mr_Molez: log out and back in for the changes to take effect, or change the value of LANG for the current shell |
| 17:17.06 | Mr_Molez | oh ok, thanks |
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| 17:18.20 | nile | grendal_prime, I didn't need mysql when I installed it.. are you on stable? (I'm on testing) |
| 17:18.21 | Mr_Molez | stew how do i change language in current shell, because i rebooted the system and it still didn't work |
| 17:18.26 | nite613 | jmp_m: www-owner (or whatever account apache runs as) must have execute permission on /home /home/satan ADND /home/satan/www |
| 17:18.32 | nite613 | s/ADND/AND |
| 17:18.42 | nile | grendal_prime, and the web interface isn't really for configuration - it's more for stats/administration |
| 17:19.07 | stew | Mr_Molez: the LANG environment variable |
| 17:19.09 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, I created my GNU Public Key, but I want to delete it in order to change it, how can I do that? |
| 17:19.38 | frederick | can someone tell me if a package mplayerplug-in exists as a debian package |
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| 17:19.58 | SlammerXP | frederick: packahes.debian.org can |
| 17:20.02 | SlammerXP | frederick: packages.debian.org can |
| 17:20.08 | nile | frederick, nope, because it depends of mplayer, and mplayer isn't in default debian either |
| 17:20.09 | cahoot | frederick: it does - via marillat |
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| 17:20.37 | frederick | i have marillat on my source list i didn't see the package |
| 17:21.21 | jmp_m | nite613: ahaa, just the folders? |
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| 17:21.34 | jmp_m | x on folder is listing right |
| 17:21.34 | nite613 | jmp_m: Yes |
| 17:21.43 | grendal_prime | nile stable, here but i found info on that now im trying to create an admin account, unsuccessfully |
| 17:21.59 | cahoot | frederick: mozilla-mplayer IIRC |
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| 17:23.50 | jmp_m | nite613: what is "s"? |
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| 17:24.07 | jmp_m | in permissions context |
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| 17:24.38 | asg | jmp_m: setuid, setgid (depending on its placement) |
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| 17:24.44 | dnell | it worked |
| 17:24.48 | asg | jmp_m: /msg dpkg permissions (for the full story) |
| 17:25.04 | dnell | !version |
| 17:25.04 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 17:25.21 | FedeSS | Hi everyone! i'm a newbie! to debian I mean! can anyone help to get it to work? |
| 17:26.26 | stew | FedeSS: you need to ask specific questions if you have any |
| 17:26.35 | myboxen | FedeSS: depends on whats wrong, try asking a more specific question. |
| 17:26.45 | myboxen | stew: beat me to it. :) |
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| 17:27.58 | tralala | FedeSS: it's really easy - you follow the installation guide and it simply works |
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| 17:28.13 | asg | tralala: except when it doesn't, of course |
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| 17:28.52 | tralala | asg: or if you aren't following the guide, I suppose |
| 17:28.53 | FedeSS | right! well... i've installed Debian from the NetInst CD, and when I turn on my pc it says "X server failed..." or something like that, and it goes to the Debian "dos". I really don't know what else to say!!! |
| 17:29.11 | asg | tralala: there are two reasons it doesn't work: 1) unsupported hardware and 2) PEBCAK |
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| 17:29.34 | asg | FedeSS: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 17:29.58 | tralala | FedeSS: probably you haven't configured X correctly. Do it again as asg suggests. |
| 17:30.02 | myboxen | FredSS: which netinstall stable, testing, or unstable? |
| 17:30.42 | FedeSS | the hardware is supportes, because i know of some1 in the forum that has the same graphic card! And I already tried to reconfigure, but still nothing |
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| 17:31.00 | FedeSS | Stable version! 3.1r2 |
| 17:31.14 | grendal_prime | nile, im getting a generic stream error, whatever the hell that means |
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| 17:31.32 | yang | what is a good tool for doing remote backups? |
| 17:31.33 | asg | grendal_prime: could be a prostate issue |
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| 17:31.43 | asg | yang: ssh + tar | dump | rsync |
| 17:32.44 | grendal_prime | asg tell me that was a joke |
| 17:32.44 | asg | yang: if you want something more fancy, look at amanda, bacula, or backuppc |
| 17:32.44 | asg | grendal_prime: of course :) |
| 17:32.44 | dsl837 | hi everyone! i would like to know if i can connect to the internet using pppoe when installing from the 40mb businesscard? thank in advance :) |
| 17:32.45 | tralala | FedeSS: paste your /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 17:32.45 | tralala | !tell paste -about |
| 17:32.45 | yang | asg: something with GUI? |
| 17:32.45 | tralala | !tell FedeSS -about paste |
| 17:32.50 | asg | yang: the latter two have GUI components |
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| 17:33.20 | FedeSS | from were? i'm using another pc... that 1 is actually only working in dos... |
| 17:33.35 | dsl837 | hello?? |
| 17:33.40 | tralala | FedeSS: it's called text mode or cli |
| 17:33.52 | myboxen | FedeSS: cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log | grep -i (ww) |
| 17:34.03 | myboxen | and the same with (ee) |
| 17:34.23 | jethro | !uuoc myboxen |
| 17:34.29 | strankan | 5 * dpkg hands myboxen the "unnecessary use of cat" award |
| 17:34.32 | asg | !win jethro |
| 17:34.32 | dpkg | Congratulations, jethro! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 17:34.34 | Smoked1 | I just ran apt-get update & apt-get upgrade and now I have a menu for "Configuring locales" and I am not sure what to do here? if I just don't select anything will it just default to english? |
| 17:34.35 | tralala | FedeSS: there are text web brosers to help you there - lynx |
| 17:34.43 | FedeSS | but how do I paste it here? |
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| 17:34.51 | asg | Smoked1: just tab to OK and hit <ENTER> |
| 17:34.53 | myboxen | :) |
| 17:35.04 | Smoked1 | Sweet thanks |
| 17:35.31 | tralala | FedeSS: you don't paste it here, you use the pastebot |
| 17:35.39 | jethro | !beer asg and jethro |
| 17:35.44 | jethro | bah |
| 17:35.50 | jethro | pubtime! |
| 17:35.52 | asg | \o/ |
| 17:36.04 | dsl837 | ok... again, hi everyone! i would like to know if i can connect to the internet using pppoe when installing from the 40mb businesscard? thanks in advance :) |
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| 17:36.44 | jethro | myboxen: grep 'pattern' file |
| 17:36.59 | FedeSS | i'm sorry lynx... pastebot... what are those? i sure am a real newbie... |
| 17:37.01 | Blissex | myboxen: that could take several weeks. Cats are notoriously difficult to teach :-) |
| 17:37.52 | RichiH | Blissex: the using of a cat is easy, though |
| 17:38.03 | tralala | FedeSS: lynx is a text browser (apt-get install lynx), the way of pasting here was kindly explained to you by dpkg in private |
| 17:38.13 | asg | RichiH: I'll pretend I didn't hear that ;) |
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| 17:38.23 | RichiH | make sure food gets in the front end, there is space for going out of waste on the back end and enough fur to stroke on the upper end |
| 17:38.42 | RichiH | asg: not my fault you are perverted :) |
| 17:38.58 | asg | haha, too true |
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| 17:39.04 | FedeSS | I see... just a moment, then!!! |
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| 17:39.35 | myboxen | i.e. grep -iF "(WW)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 17:39.48 | myboxen | gracias |
| 17:40.06 | zav | alguien de monterrey? |
| 17:40.17 | asg | nyet |
| 17:40.20 | RichiH | chili con carne |
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| 17:40.24 | zav | jejejeje |
| 17:40.35 | asg | RichiH: with extra herring no less |
| 17:40.44 | zav | chiles rellenos mejor |
| 17:40.51 | pitillo | zav, write /join #debian-es |
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| 17:41.02 | zav | ok |
| 17:41.04 | asg | fish tacos! |
| 17:41.09 | mzuverink | If I do a fresh install, but do not format the drive that contains /home, but add the same users to the new system, how does it handle the existing users /home? |
| 17:41.18 | jmp_m | can i have different umask's for diffrent directories/users? |
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| 17:41.25 | jmp_m | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.35 | RichiH | asg: and orange juice |
| 17:41.43 | RichiH | you need orange juice in a decent chili |
| 17:41.49 | asg | mzuverink: as long as the new users have the same uid/gid, you'll be fine. |
| 17:42.08 | jmp_m | help me 2000-CyberMen!! |
| 17:42.09 | mzuverink | asg: how do I assure that? |
| 17:42.13 | mrjazzman | any idea what's up with backports.debian.org? |
| 17:42.34 | asg | mzuverink: make sure /etc/passwd on the old and /etc/passwd on the new match for the accounts that you are migrating. |
| 17:42.41 | stew | mrjazzman: do you mean backports.org? |
| 17:42.51 | Vince35 | hi all (: , my fsck tell me that my home partition has something like 13% non-contigü files, it's the result of 4 years of /home full between 80% and 100% , do yu know if there's any way to make a defragmentation like on windows ? i'm on Etch |
| 17:42.52 | mzuverink | asg: ok, thanks |
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| 17:42.53 | mrjazzman | stew: that would be why :) |
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| 17:43.11 | mrjazzman | stew: thanks |
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| 17:43.23 | Blissex | Vince35: fragmentation in place is a bad idea. Dump and restore is good. |
| 17:44.02 | FedeSS | what should I put instead of (WW)? |
| 17:44.10 | Vince35 | Blissex, you mean i should back up what i want an format my /home ? |
| 17:44.13 | asg | Vince35: filesystem fragmentation is less of an issue on Linux |
| 17:44.16 | Blissex | Vince35: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060423b |
| 17:44.34 | Blissex | Vince35: yes, do that and do it regularly, like at least 3-6 times a year. |
| 17:44.44 | Blissex | asg: thats not quite right... |
| 17:45.06 | Vince35 | Blissex, awww 3/6 times is too much for me |
| 17:45.08 | Vince35 | (o: |
| 17:45.12 | jla | I had an apache debug log get out of hand this morning and fill /var with a 9.5G log. I've since deleted the file but df still shows the partition as full. Touch works, copying large files fails instantly. Any way to reset xfs's disk usage count without unmounting? |
| 17:45.13 | Blissex | Vince35: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060422b |
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| 17:45.29 | ifvoid | jla: you need to restart apache |
| 17:45.35 | grendal_prime | seems like no matter what i do with this thing i get <stream:error>Invalid XML</stream:error> |
| 17:45.36 | tralala | FedeSS: just paste the whole file |
| 17:45.42 | ifvoid | jla: the file isn't really deleted until all programs that use it, close the file |
| 17:45.54 | Blissex | asg: Vince35: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060416 |
| 17:45.55 | Vince35 | thx Blissex ! i'm gonna check |
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| 17:46.29 | Vince35 | cause i think 13% is very much for a linuxbox |
| 17:46.31 | Blissex | jla: your filesystem looks screwed, you really should run 'xfs_check' and 'xfs_repair' |
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| 17:47.04 | FedeSS | ok... let's do this: I just logged in in text mode. Now, if U would be so kind to tell me exactly what do I have to write, I'll be gratefull!!! |
| 17:47.04 | superlinux | Yourika! Whoever uses freeradius to check the authencity and the unicity of logging users belonging to PPPoE: TELL HIM TO GO TO HELL 'COS I SOLVED IT! |
| 17:47.22 | asg | Blissex: I understood him to mean that his /home has been between 80% and 100% for 4 years but that it isn't now. |
| 17:47.23 | superlinux | using only shell scripts! |
| 17:47.40 | jla | ifvoid: hmm. I should have thought about that, except that it seemed that apache had died, but there were hung processes. Thanks. |
| 17:47.51 | Vince35 | asg, my home is always between that values |
| 17:47.53 | ifvoid | jla: yw |
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| 17:48.05 | tralala | FedeSS: first install lynx and the text mode mouse support - gpm. The command is aptitude install lynx gpm |
| 17:48.06 | asg | Vince35: then disregard what I said, I made an incorrect assumption |
| 17:48.21 | Blissex | asg: ahhhh. But it is still not quite right -- when filesystems get more than say 60-70% full their performance becomes a lot worse. |
| 17:48.48 | Blissex | asg: BTW, I used to make the same assumptions, but then I made some tests as you see and was quite surprised. |
| 17:48.54 | Vince35 | asg, anyway my bad english didn't authorise me to understood what you wrote ...((o: but thx |
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| 17:52.54 | Mr_Molez | locale is showing everything english... but apt-get still shows in german, anyone know why ? |
| 17:53.06 | asg | Blissex: agreed. Did your tests differ based on the filesystem used at all? |
| 17:53.21 | tarzeau | why can't ff just show this file? http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/bahadunn/bla.c |
| 17:53.28 | tarzeau | can i not make it just show this file, is this so hard? |
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| 17:53.49 | grendal_prime | this is making absolutly no sence |
| 17:53.56 | asg | tarzeau: futz with the mimetype mappings? |
| 17:54.02 | Blissex | asg: yes, I tried only 'ext3' and JFS and JFS seemed to degrade a lot less (see link above http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060416) |
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| 17:54.19 | seb- | is dselect obsolete/replaced by aptitude? |
| 17:54.27 | chealer | seb-: no |
| 17:54.39 | tarzeau | asg: where? how? |
| 17:54.50 | wols__ | nothing replaced dselect, but it's not really used anymore either |
| 17:55.01 | asg | tarzeau: iirc, preferences -> Downloads -> View & Edit Actions |
| 17:55.08 | FedeSS | ok... sorry to bother... it says something like: "impossible to check file list at source: ftp://etcetc..." how do I change it and what FTP shall i put? |
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| 17:55.33 | tarzeau | asg: i'm in there. what can i do there? |
| 17:55.42 | seb- | wols__: why not? |
| 17:56.16 | asg | tarzeau: yeah, I see your point. You probably have to mess with the hideous bowels of ~/.mozilla/firefox I'm afraid |
| 17:56.17 | seb- | chealer: why no one uses it ? |
| 17:56.32 | tarzeau | asg: that's userfriendly? |
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| 17:56.55 | tarzeau | asg: a webbrowser and it can't even display text/x-csrc |
| 17:56.55 | chealer | seb-: no one uses dselect? I couldn't answer even if that was true, since I never tried it |
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| 17:57.18 | EvilDin | am is there possible to make support for ASP scripts on debian |
| 17:57.27 | tarzeau | EvilDin: please |
| 17:57.28 | grendal_prime | ok i cant run a jabber server on my laptop but im not able to connect to the one on the other machine..that makes no sense to me whatsoever |
| 17:57.41 | grendal_prime | and there is no firewall restrictions on that machine |
| 17:57.46 | asg | tarzeau: look at the mimeTypes.rdf in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/ |
| 17:58.13 | stew | EvilDin: apt-cache search asp apache |
| 17:58.13 | sepski | i have a string containing a url like http://www.domain.tld/path/path/file.extension without a newline and i can printf it or echo -n it and it's still without newline. now i | cut -d"/" -f2 to get only the www.domain.tld part. and suddenly there is a newline. can i replace cut with something that dont create newlines found nothing about it in man cut |
| 17:58.18 | tarzeau | asg: XML EYE CANCER |
| 17:58.21 | frederick | what is the debian name for the package gthread-2.0 |
| 17:58.30 | tarzeau | asg: man can you not warn me when i'm going to see XML GOATSE? |
| 17:58.34 | asg | tarzeau: agreed. I only ever use fox for things that links can't reasonably render |
| 17:58.47 | Unetixs | search packages.debian.org frederick |
| 17:58.50 | asg | tarzeau: it's firefox, did you expect anything reasonable in its config? :) |
| 17:59.13 | tarzeau | asg: how many years old is it? mozilla=netscape=firefox? they haven't made any progress |
| 17:59.25 | tarzeau | asg: i don't want to know how much time they wasted finding new names for this crap |
| 17:59.36 | asg | tarzeau: their long term goal is to make hotmail.com work I think |
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| 17:59.51 | Eulex | asg, ? it does |
| 17:59.57 | asg | Eulex: that was a joke |
| 18:00.00 | EvilDin | am ja what about libapache2-asp-perl ---> is there support for apache2 |
| 18:00.34 | tarzeau | asg: hahah, don't scare Eulex |
| 18:00.35 | frederick | I can't the search is disabled. |
| 18:00.44 | vipersniper | anyone do a dist-upgrade to unstable and have problems with xserver-xorg-core not installing |
| 18:00.51 | tarzeau | vipersniper: no |
| 18:00.58 | vipersniper | hmm |
| 18:01.04 | asg | tarzeau: I keep forgetting that most people in here these days are not conditioned to take everything I say with a grain of salt |
| 18:01.19 | mrwill | how can I capitalize all the characters in a text file? |
| 18:01.25 | asg | mrwill: tr(1) |
| 18:01.26 | vipersniper | guess im the first person than |
| 18:01.30 | vipersniper | ;) |
| 18:01.38 | tarzeau | asg: that'll only work with 7bit ascii |
| 18:01.40 | Unetixs | frederick: then go to www.fuckinggoogleit.com |
| 18:01.43 | mrwill | asg: ah yes, that's it, thanks. |
| 18:01.48 | tarzeau | mrwill: you don't have umlauts and other funny letters? |
| 18:01.58 | mrwill | tarzeau: luckily, no |
| 18:02.07 | asg | tarzeau: then he will come back and say 'hmmm, that only works with 7bit ascii'. I'm inclined to think he'll be okay in this instance though. |
| 18:02.16 | tarzeau | asg: heh |
| 18:02.28 | biatche | can anyone recommend a socket754 board that works rock solid stable in nix? |
| 18:02.30 | stew | tarzeau: funny letters? you wouldnt' think they were so funny if you had to use them all the time, like if they were in your name or something |
| 18:02.33 | tarzeau | how can I capitalize all the characters in a text file with umlauts? |
| 18:02.36 | vipersniper | anyone know a workaround to xserver-xorg-core install ;) |
| 18:02.38 | asg | stew: haha |
| 18:02.50 | tarzeau | stew: i have one in both, firstname and surname |
| 18:02.53 | tarzeau | stew: don't laugh |
| 18:02.55 | stew | tarzeau: (i know) |
| 18:03.00 | asg | tarzeau: that's because you rock |
| 18:03.07 | stew | that was the joke part |
| 18:03.08 | frederick | does anyone know something about package gthread |
| 18:03.11 | FauxFaux | tarzeau: Php! |
| 18:03.14 | tarzeau | asg: i'll change my surename when i marry a swiss woman! |
| 18:03.22 | tarzeau | asg: and i'll make sure she's got no funny letters |
| 18:03.27 | asg | tarzeau: hehe |
| 18:03.28 | tarzeau | or dump her |
| 18:03.43 | ifvoid | biatche: socket 754? isn't that obsolete? |
| 18:03.48 | tarzeau | asg: www.linuks.mine.nu/rockstone.jpg :) |
| 18:04.04 | asg | tarzeau: nice :) |
| 18:04.36 | Scognito | is it normal i get a root prompt just before the machine reboots after i type reboot from user? |
| 18:04.48 | Scognito | never had this prompt before |
| 18:04.57 | biatche | ifvoid: just want a cheap solution that isn't too old... for a file server |
| 18:05.10 | asg | Scognito: it's possible that it has gone to single user mode (though even then you usually get a password prompt) |
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| 18:05.52 | Scognito | yeah it is single user mode since i don't have other terminal |
| 18:05.59 | Scognito | how can i avoid that? |
| 18:06.09 | Dforge | Can anyone point me to a FAQ on how to upgrade a debian box from the 2.4 kernel to 2.6? |
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| 18:06.30 | FedeSS | Hi... I get an error in text mode when I da apt-get: it says something like: "impossible to check file list at source: ftp://etcetc..." how do I change it and what FTP shall i put? |
| 18:06.33 | stew | Dforge: /msg dpkg sarge upgrade kernel |
| 18:06.33 | asg | Dforge: apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install a 2.6 kernel that suits your architecture) |
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| 18:06.47 | gaba | hi, does anybody know about any application/script/something to convert from wmv to something else in debian? |
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| 18:07.01 | asg | gaba: mencoder in the mplayer package (/msg dpkg mplayer) |
| 18:07.07 | asg | gaba: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 18:09.16 | Dforge | stew: I'm running dpkg 1.13.18 and it's asking for an action |
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| 18:09.51 | xerov | does anybody know how can ignore the adduser name,room not be asked when i add user with adduser |
| 18:10.01 | stew | Dforge: oh, you are on etch? |
| 18:10.09 | grendal_prime | ok nile i have this working on my local laptop, and can add users and they can communicate back and forth np. but when i try and connect to the other machine, the one i would like to use for a server it gives me a generic stream error. |
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| 18:10.18 | dondelelcaro | xerov: set the gecos field on the command line. |
| 18:10.28 | stew | !tell Dforge about etch upgrade kernel |
| 18:10.28 | dondelelcaro | xerov: man adduser; for details |
| 18:10.29 | gaba | thanks asg |
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| 18:10.48 | grendal_prime | any idea what would cause that. im using the ip address as the server name. because its on a local network. |
| 18:11.01 | gozz | can XF86Cinfig-4 be edited for a dual head ati card without the ati drivers or fglrx being installed? |
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| 18:11.27 | stew | gozz: yes the free drivers support xinerama just fine |
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| 18:12.26 | Dforge | stew: Whoops, missed the tab that popped up. |
| 18:12.27 | Dforge | thanks |
| 18:13.01 | FedeSS | Is this IRC channel ment for people in trouble with Debian? Maybe i'm in the wrong place... Some1 please show me a channel were i can get some help... I'm just a newbie who want to understand something about this apparently useless OS (that is because I can't get it to work)!!! |
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| 18:13.48 | tarzeau | FedeSS: what doesn't work? |
| 18:13.53 | tabris|away | FedeSS: I can't tell you what to change it to, but you can change it in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:13.54 | stew | FedeSS: show us exactly what you are running and exactly what error you get. use a pastebin: /msg dpkg paster |
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| 18:14.16 | wols__ | !help FedeSS |
| 18:14.21 | wols__ | FedeSS: run apt-setup |
| 18:14.29 | tal | hello debianners! |
| 18:14.30 | gozz | what is xinerama? a package? |
| 18:14.32 | wols__ | the file to edit would be /etc/apt/sources.list if you want to do it manually btw |
| 18:14.47 | wols__ | gozz: an X extension. for multimon support |
| 18:15.53 | antoine-c | gozz multihead support |
| 18:16.08 | FedeSS | that was the answer, Wols__!!! Now, what should I put in ftp? (ot http?) |
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| 18:16.21 | wols__ | doesn't matter really |
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| 18:16.50 | MrKeuner | hi, what does replaced mean in the debsums output? |
| 18:17.17 | bono | Question: i just installed sarge and i cant seem to open x applications as root. Whats the option i need to set? Anyone can help? |
| 18:17.31 | stew | bono: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 18:17.32 | tbf | only chance to get rid of devfs is recompiling the kernel? |
| 18:17.45 | deadcat | are there any weather websites that gives data in xml format? |
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| 18:17.55 | FedeSS | wols__: ok,i'm in the editor... now... what should I do? |
| 18:18.08 | gozz | thanks i found some info on it in google |
| 18:18.21 | tbf | asking because devfs bombs me with zillions of "invalid argument" messages on startup - and adding devfs=nomount to my boot options doesn't seem to help |
| 18:18.40 | wols__ | frederick: read manpages. LOTS of them |
| 18:18.52 | cmatheson | i've written a script that i need one specific user to be able to run w/ root-permissions... what's the best way to do this? setuid? sudo? it's over-writing a few config files in /etc.. |
| 18:19.07 | stew | cmatheson: sudo |
| 18:19.20 | bono | stew: thanks |
| 18:19.44 | FedeSS | wols__: ok,i'm in the editor... now... what should I do? |
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| 18:20.09 | xerov | can i set password from script like bash script if so how ?? |
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| 18:20.55 | Dforge | stew: I've attempted to install yaird, but now it's complaining about mkinitrd.yaird missing. |
| 18:21.32 | stew | Dforge: what do you mean "attempted"? did it seem to install successfully? |
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| 18:21.40 | wols__ | read manpages. LOTS of them. start with man sources.list |
| 18:21.57 | tal | hi, i need some help with my sound card. |
| 18:22.16 | cmatheson | stew: cool, thanks... do i just have to give them permission to run the script? or is there something i need to do about those conf-files too? |
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| 18:22.43 | FedeSS | manpages? |
| 18:22.53 | Dforge | stew: It looked like it completed successfully. "Setting up yaird (0.0.12-9) ." then it went to the CL. |
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| 18:23.45 | stew | chealer: just permission to run the script in /etc/sudoers |
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| 18:23.58 | Dforge | My error is "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version |
| 18:23.58 | Dforge | " |
| 18:24.00 | Dforge | whoops. |
| 18:24.29 | stew | Dforge: try installing initramfs-tools ; then try the linux-image again |
| 18:24.42 | chealer | stew: I'm innocent! |
| 18:25.13 | Dforge | thanks stew |
| 18:25.15 | meny | hi i compiled kernel (2.6.16.11) and i did some mistake im not sure where i get this "kernel panic: not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2)" |
| 18:25.27 | stew | cmatheson: just permission to run the script in /etc/sudoers |
| 18:25.37 | ifvoid | meny: eihter you forgot hd support, or support for your fs |
| 18:25.42 | stew | meny: /msg dpkg can't mount root |
| 18:26.16 | meny | stew: what do you mean? |
| 18:26.49 | stew | !tell meny about can't mount root |
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| 18:27.19 | meny | ifvoid: should i try to compile in everything that looks right? |
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| 18:27.44 | cmatheson | stew: groovy, i'll do that |
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| 18:28.30 | tal | i can't here sound at all. just installed debian stale 2.4.27-2-386. i810_audio sound card is detected and the module is loaded. /dev/dsp exists (and busy). |
| 18:28.42 | myren | anyone know a good way to visualize bandwidth usage? |
| 18:28.57 | myren | something is pulling our network down |
| 18:29.06 | ramiroec | how can i get the program to use the 25 port ? |
| 18:29.14 | meny | stew: thanks i think im gonna try to include everything that loks right |
| 18:29.34 | sepski | myren, iptraf tcpdump or if you just want usage munin or mrtg |
| 18:30.08 | sepski | myren, i usualy end up in tcpdump -n it give you the best feel for the net |
| 18:30.17 | stew | meny: all you need is the filesystem contained in the root partition and the specific driver for the hard disk controller with the root partition, and they must be compiled directly in, not as modules. |
| 18:30.35 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, to make my revoke key, I've read the command is like that: $gpg --outpuc revoke.asc --gen-revoke XXXXXXXX, what should I write isntead the XXXXXXXXX ? |
| 18:30.41 | cahoot | tal: fuser -v /dev/dsp should tell what's occupying it |
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| 18:31.19 | gnd | hi |
| 18:31.33 | gnd | what program do you use to connect to adsl? |
| 18:31.36 | meny | ifvoid stew: thanks |
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| 18:32.02 | myren | i'm not so good at watching tcpdump to figure out who is using all the bandwidth |
| 18:32.12 | alec | gnd: you might look at rppoe |
| 18:32.30 | sepski | myren, try iptraf then |
| 18:32.35 | gnd | ok |
| 18:33.10 | gnd | apt-get can |
| 18:33.17 | gnd | 't find a package rppoe |
| 18:33.20 | Dforge | question #2: If I have a system running the 2.6 kernel and apt-get upgrade kernel-2.6-686 shows udev as being held back - what magic am I missing? |
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| 18:34.04 | ifvoid | Dforge: you probably need a more recent kernel |
| 18:34.08 | gnd | would pppoe work? |
| 18:34.09 | ifvoid | Dforge: try dist-upgrade |
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| 18:34.42 | Dforge | ifvoid: dist-upgrade lists udev as being held back. |
| 18:34.43 | chealer | gnd: apt-get install pppoeconf;pppoeconf |
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| 18:35.09 | tal | cahoot: thanks, /dev/dsp is used by artsd. is it ok? |
| 18:35.53 | cahoot | tal: might be if you plan to let kde manage your sound apps |
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| 18:37.30 | tal | chaoot: it is. and also - xmms is running and behaves like it is playing mp3 files, but i hear nothing. (this hardware works fine in win2k) |
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| 18:37.39 | cahoot | tal: might also be the best choice with that card if you want to be able to play sounds from more than one app simultaneously |
| 18:37.40 | DarKnesS_WolF | how to install a locale in the system ? |
| 18:37.41 | minerale | I have a virtual shell (xen) from a host, is there some kind of diagnostic tool I can use to evaluate the vhost ? |
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| 18:37.46 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, I'm making my GnuPG keys, now I want to make my revoke key, I've read the command is like that: $gpg --output revoke.asc --gen-revoke XXXXXXXX, what should I write instead the XXXXXXXXX ? |
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| 18:38.10 | cahoot | tal: xms set to use artsd output? |
| 18:38.15 | minerale | I guess what I'm asking is ... what apt must i install to run benchmarks ? |
| 18:38.17 | cahoot | tal: xmms set to use artsd output? |
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| 18:39.00 | tal | cahoot: only one of the output plugins works: OSS Driver 1.2.10 (libOSS.so). tried all the other plugins and its says it cannot open the device |
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| 18:39.57 | DarKnesS_WolF | got it dpkg-reconfiger locales |
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| 18:40.49 | cahoot | tal: could try: artsdp xmms (guesswork from my side though - since I don't use either app) |
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| 18:42.18 | Sonderblade | how do you do to host .deb's that you have built yourself? |
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| 18:43.07 | tal | cahroot: did you mean to simply type "artsd xmm"? (im quite new to linux...) if you did, it does not work. |
| 18:43.07 | jetscreamer | !tell Sonderblade -about repository |
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| 18:43.23 | cahoot | tal: artsdp xmms |
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| 18:44.35 | lazzarello | if a RAID controller is spec'd as "how swap capable" does that mean I can pull out a failed drive without doing anything in software or with the backplane? |
| 18:44.55 | tal | cahoot: "ash: artsdp: command not found" |
| 18:45.04 | tal | cahoot: "bash: artsdp: command not found" |
| 18:45.16 | sepski | lazzarello, no it just means you can hotswap you may or may not have to do things in special tools |
| 18:45.20 | cahoot | tal: artdsp |
| 18:45.26 | cahoot | err artsdsp |
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| 18:45.56 | somePriest | Is there an easy shell-driven way that I can watch what gets put onto the Serial port in an unbuffered fashion (ideally I want an unbuffered od command)? |
| 18:46.03 | sepski | lazzarello, ie with 3ware cards you can use the cli tool 3w_cli to rescan the but to redetect drives |
| 18:46.29 | tal | cahroot: libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:46.30 | tal | Message: device: default |
| 18:46.30 | tal | Segmentation fault |
| 18:46.30 | tal | You've probably found a bug in XMMS, please visit |
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| 18:47.42 | jetscreamer | !tell _abbenormal -about ask |
| 18:48.35 | _abbenormal | thanks |
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| 18:51.15 | _abbenormal | i have a problem with xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.15_all.deb giving me this dpkg error (--unpak) subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10 any work around yet |
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| 18:53.28 | kuribas | Does someone know how to set the default font on WINE? |
| 18:53.42 | Dforge | what flag can I pass to apt-get to have it list what is causing a package to be held back? |
| 18:53.48 | SlammerXP | kuribas: yes, someone does. |
| 18:54.06 | kuribas | SlammerXP: hehe :) And someone here? |
| 18:54.18 | asg | Dforge: /msg dpkg held back |
| 18:54.23 | Eulex | Dforge, you could try installing the new version with apt-get install package=version |
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| 18:55.24 | Dforge | Thanks asg |
| 18:55.27 | Dforge | and eulex |
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| 18:55.40 | Eulex | Dforge, yw :) |
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| 18:57.45 | Goa | hi all |
| 18:58.11 | Goa | guys i am sorry what file should i modify in order to have a correct monitor refresh? |
| 18:58.35 | lakcaj | !tell Goa about drx |
| 18:58.42 | Goa | i already reconfigure xserver by using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 18:59.13 | Nikolay | Goa: /etc/X11/XF86Config as far as I remember XFree86 |
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| 18:59.18 | Goa | but it remained at 75hz |
| 18:59.36 | jetscreamer | is there a linux msaccess clone? |
| 18:59.42 | Dforge | ugh: these dependacies are getting annoying |
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| 19:00.27 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 19:00.27 | dpkg | [fix-unmet] run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
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| 19:00.46 | Phlexonance | is there a kTaskManager ? (GUI Task-Manager-like tool for kde) |
| 19:00.48 | Nikolay | jetscreamer: msaccess as what? as local simple database? sqlite, I thik. |
| 19:01.07 | jetscreamer | Nikolay: but with all the other stuff... forms, whatever |
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| 19:01.59 | thingfish | Doesn't Star Office come with an Access clone? |
| 19:02.19 | Pryon | Phlexonance: KDE system guard |
| 19:02.35 | jetscreamer | _abbenormal: sometimes you can do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver<TAB> and it will work, and sometimes just rerun the install command works also. |
| 19:02.49 | Phlexonance | Pryon, hows it exactly called (for apt-getting) |
| 19:03.02 | _abbenormal | hum didnt see that one ill try |
| 19:03.08 | _abbenormal | thanks |
| 19:03.25 | Phlexonance | Pryon, found it thankx |
| 19:03.28 | jetscreamer | _abbenormal: if you croll up there should be a more detailed error msg |
| 19:03.28 | Goa | guys that file tell me this Identifier "LG 915" |
| 19:03.28 | Goa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.29 | Goa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.35 | Pryon | np |
| 19:03.38 | jetscreamer | !tell goa -about paste |
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| 19:03.52 | jetscreamer | one more line and it was byebye |
| 19:03.54 | Goa | it doesnt go over 75 hz -:( |
| 19:04.03 | Goa | :( i apologise |
| 19:04.10 | jetscreamer | it's automated |
| 19:04.12 | _abbenormal | thats why i didnt paste the full error |
| 19:04.18 | thingfish | Goa: do you know what those values are supposed to be? |
| 19:04.19 | Goa | me too |
| 19:04.27 | jetscreamer | !tell _abbenormal -about paste |
| 19:04.32 | Goa | thouse are the values |
| 19:04.32 | thingfish | Goa: or are they correct as is? |
| 19:04.37 | Goa | the correct one |
| 19:04.43 | Goa | they are correct yes |
| 19:05.03 | stew | Goa: what resolution are you trying to use? |
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| 19:05.23 | filleokus | awh, i forgot, how do i close a tab in irssi |
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| 19:05.29 | Goa | 1024x768@120hz |
| 19:05.30 | stew | filleokus: /wc |
| 19:05.34 | filleokus | thanks |
| 19:05.37 | filleokus | and bye |
| 19:05.38 | filleokus | :D |
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| 19:05.46 | thingfish | 120? |
| 19:05.50 | Goa | yes |
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| 19:06.18 | Goa | dude i use it on windows as well |
| 19:06.22 | stew | Goa: that would require a horizontal sync > 60 |
| 19:06.22 | chealer | jetscreamer: kexi? |
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| 19:06.32 | Goa | its abt 61.7 |
| 19:06.41 | Goa | when under windws |
| 19:06.49 | stew | Goa: and you have said that your monitor cannot do that |
| 19:06.52 | Goa | my monitor os says that |
| 19:06.58 | Goa | the monitor CAN |
| 19:07.06 | Goa | its made to have that refresh |
| 19:07.13 | stew | Goa: but you said it maxes out at 60 |
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| 19:07.25 | Goa | it goes out under debian at 75 maximux |
| 19:07.35 | Goa | vertically sure |
| 19:07.46 | Goa | now its 60x75 |
| 19:08.05 | cmatheson | stew: well, i setup sudo to allow my 'tech' user to run the script i wrote, but it gets permission denied when trying to overwrite files in /etc/. i didn't see a way to specify what files a guy can write to in sudo, but i may have overlooked it. do you have any ideas? |
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| 19:08.34 | jetscreamer | yeah. thanks chealer |
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| 19:08.41 | jetscreamer | my sql-fu sucks |
| 19:09.14 | BeNjaX | i need help about install a mail admin via web |
| 19:09.26 | stew | Goa: it is impossible to do more than 75 hz at 1024x760 with only a horizontal refresh of 60 |
| 19:09.47 | jockl | is there any way to disable the terminal beeping for all ttys? so that i don't have to manually enter "setterm -blength" everytime? |
| 19:09.58 | Goa | stwe then i whould write 61.7 |
| 19:10.01 | Goa | ? |
| 19:10.05 | _abbenormal | jetscreamer, here ya go http://channels.debian.net/paste/2468 |
| 19:10.07 | Goa | should* |
| 19:10.25 | diesel | !dpkg 2006 key |
| 19:10.26 | dpkg | i guess 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 19:10.28 | Goa | when i used it under window it says 61.7khz/120hz |
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| 19:10.30 | stew | Goa: you should write whatever is the actual maximum refresh rate your monitor can do |
| 19:10.49 | Goa | its 61.7khz/120hz |
| 19:10.54 | BackboneFlooder | buenas |
| 19:11.07 | Goa | @1024 |
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| 19:12.33 | jetscreamer | !hwinfo |
| 19:12.33 | dpkg | i heard hwinfo is your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
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| 19:12.58 | cahoot | jockl: disable loading of pcspkr (if a 2.6 kernel) |
| 19:13.05 | jair | hello guys? |
| 19:13.07 | BackboneFlooder | hi, i need help with nagios....... |
| 19:13.09 | Mr_Molez | argh i really need help... i have done dpkg to set my locales and its fine for some things, but apt-get still shows in german |
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| 19:13.39 | linnuxxy | how to install jdk5 in sarge? |
| 19:13.45 | jair | finally it was somthing I was not doing on the irssi that I keep getting a message about "debian can not send message to the channel" |
| 19:13.54 | jetscreamer | here's your bug _abbenormal http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=xserver-xorg&archive=no&version=&dist=unstable#_0_1_4 |
| 19:14.18 | jair | stew are you here? |
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| 19:14.43 | asg | oooh look, a carrot! |
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| 19:15.05 | stew | thanks guys |
| 19:15.11 | jair | anyone here knows about the issue of MS exchange the the mapi stuff? |
| 19:15.13 | jetscreamer | !dbugs 365282 |
| 19:15.16 | dpkg | #365282:G[xserver-xorg] xserver-xorg 7.0.15 fails installation (pre-inst exit status 10); Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:33:02 UTC |
| 19:15.23 | BackboneFlooder | somebody |
| 19:15.43 | jair | jetscreamer hello just answer me to know that my bitchx is connected. |
| 19:15.47 | Daedalus_ | BackboneFlooder: You haven't really asked a question yet. |
| 19:15.48 | asg | jair: it's much easier to use IMAP than fool with MAPI. |
| 19:16.00 | jair | asg got it :) |
| 19:16.08 | jetscreamer | jair no it doesn't work you're disconnected |
| 19:16.15 | BackboneFlooder | Daedalus_; hi |
| 19:16.28 | asg | jair: unless you have tard administrators that don't like to enable IMAP because they don't understand it |
| 19:16.30 | BackboneFlooder | i need help |
| 19:16.36 | BackboneFlooder | for nagios |
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| 19:16.42 | jair | the reason why I am asking is because the people on the company I work are using MS exchange and were asking me if I could use a email client other than ms outlook to use mapi |
| 19:16.48 | stew | BackboneFlooder: if you have a question, ask it |
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| 19:16.58 | jair | asg correct |
| 19:17.04 | Daedalus_ | BackboneFlooder: I don't use nagios. But someone here might. You need to be more specific to get an answer |
| 19:17.13 | jair | asg I have an admnistrator like that the email guy |
| 19:17.33 | markybob | anyone know where the hell evolution stores its email account info and contacts? i've deleted ~/.evolution and ~/.gconf/apps/evolution but it's still not a clean startup |
| 19:17.39 | BackboneFlooder | Daedalus_; ok |
| 19:17.52 | asg | jair: yeah, frustrating. |
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| 19:18.44 | Phlexonance | how much time would it take to switch from kde to gnome |
| 19:19.00 | asg | Phlexonance: /msg dpkg remove kde ; /msg dpkg install gnome |
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| 19:19.11 | stew | and the remove part is optional |
| 19:19.25 | asg | Phlexonance: i.e., not long at all |
| 19:19.42 | Phlexonance | ok thx, I'll check it out |
| 19:20.37 | jair | stew I am using bitchx it is a way I can tell it to highlight the text when someone is sending me a message like you are doing directly to me.? |
| 19:20.42 | _abbenormal | thank you sir |
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| 19:20.47 | Phlexonance | what about the recommended and suggested packages, whats the difference by the way |
| 19:21.21 | jetscreamer | _abbenormal: there's a patch, but not a 7.0.16 yet it seems |
| 19:21.45 | asg | Phlexonance: if you know what you are doing, they are optional. If not, install the recommended packages and if something doesn't work just right, install the suggested packages. |
| 19:21.51 | stew | jair: i don't use bitchx, but "/help hilight" should hopefully give you some clues, or ask in #bitchx |
| 19:22.14 | Phlexonance | stew, and how do I actually switch to using gnome instead of kde? |
| 19:22.16 | Phlexonance | asg, ok thx |
| 19:23.06 | stew | Phlexonance: i don't think you'll have to do anything |
| 19:23.30 | Phlexonance | ok and how can I switch back if I dont like it, stew ? |
| 19:24.01 | stew | Phlexonance: disable gdm and enable kdm ; man update-rc.d |
| 19:24.25 | stew | Phlexonance: or edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 19:25.11 | Phlexonance | sir stew thanks-a-lot |
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| 19:26.32 | stew | gee |
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| 19:26.50 | thingfish | shoot, I'd have given him at least the burger. |
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| 19:27.03 | _abbenormal | thanks jetscreamer im tring the patch now |
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| 19:27.28 | qlootje | goodday all |
| 19:27.31 | h7-25 | does anyone know of a decent VoIP (sip-capable) client in debian (preferably stable) that uses the ALSA sound architecture? |
| 19:27.33 | asg | thingfish: at least the hat doesn't give you e-coli |
| 19:27.39 | thingfish | hehe |
| 19:27.58 | thingfish | taco bell's the only place I ever have problems with, at least so far. |
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| 19:28.13 | asg | thingfish: not that I don't go full throttle and eat burgers with extra lettuce and mayo only ;) |
| 19:28.16 | qlootje | i know i am in the wrong channel for my problem, first i need to know if there is any irc server for help with suse linux |
| 19:28.26 | qlootje | anyone knows one? |
| 19:28.29 | asg | qlootje: try #suse or #novell here on freenode |
| 19:28.40 | qlootje | oke thanks alot |
| 19:28.50 | ecidadania7 | hello server brasil? |
| 19:28.57 | markybob | !br |
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| 19:28.58 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 19:28.58 | stew | !br |
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| 19:29.29 | hjubal | hi |
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| 19:30.52 | Mr_Molez | can anyone explain to me why every program uses the german locale after i have done dpkg-recompile locales to only have english ? |
| 19:31.33 | h7-25 | Mr_Molez: what does locale return? |
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| 19:33.37 | bingo | hi, do you know where I can foud a sarge backport of gnome 2.14 please? |
| 19:34.20 | CleeK | no, and IMO, it's useless. |
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| 19:34.46 | bingo | ? |
| 19:34.48 | thingfish | I don't know where you would find that, bingo - I sure know backports.org doesn't have it. |
| 19:34.54 | cr3 | if anyone happens to be using remind(1), how can I display the previous month with -c? |
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| 19:35.27 | jetscreamer | you mean dpkg-reconfigure locales i reckon |
| 19:35.28 | h7-25 | does anyone know of a decent VoIP (sip-capable) client in debian (preferably stable) that uses the ALSA sound architecture? |
| 19:35.31 | bingo | thingfish, I think it doesn't exist |
| 19:35.47 | thingfish | bingo: I think it doesn't exist, too. |
| 19:35.59 | Esaj | how do I make home directories non-world-readable by default? |
| 19:36.10 | jetscreamer | Mr_Molez: kde? |
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| 19:36.21 | bingo | thingfish, do you use sarge? |
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| 19:36.31 | thingfish | bingo: yes. |
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| 19:36.50 | Zmanu | hi |
| 19:37.02 | bingo | thingfish, so you will keep with gnome 2.8 |
| 19:37.13 | bingo | if you use gnome |
| 19:37.35 | thingfish | bingo: yeah, I guess so. |
| 19:37.45 | petemc | Esaj: dpkg-reconfigure adduser |
| 19:37.56 | bingo | how many time it will take to see etch ready? |
| 19:38.03 | asg | bingo: by December if things go right |
| 19:38.03 | Mr_Molez | h7-25: it give a list of all english and non german |
| 19:38.13 | Mr_Molez | jetscreamer: nah non X system |
| 19:38.13 | Zmanu | i want to know if i can install php-gtk under unstable without problem ? |
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| 19:38.31 | petemc | Zmanu: check the bts |
| 19:38.32 | asg | bingo: hopefully longer so I can schedule my woody server upgrades without rushing things. |
| 19:38.38 | Zmanu | the bts ?? |
| 19:38.43 | asg | !bts |
| 19:38.43 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 19:38.43 | bingo | asg, juste 1 year after sarge? |
| 19:38.57 | Zmanu | !bts php-gtk |
| 19:39.04 | jetscreamer | Mr_Molez: i know nothing but maybe dpkg-reconfigure console-data might help |
| 19:39.05 | asg | bingo: that's the goal; history indicates otherwise but there is a strong internal push to meet deadlines. |
| 19:39.07 | orchid | Mr_Molez: /etc/environment is the correct locale commented out? |
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| 19:39.35 | bingo | asg I think that is a good thing |
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| 19:39.51 | Mr_Molez | orchid: ohh TANKIES hehehhehe |
| 19:39.54 | orchid | Mr_Molez: theres been some bugs with locales in sid, your using sid? uncommenting that file was temporary fix for me |
| 19:39.59 | asg | bingo: in some instances, not so in others but that's a matter of perspective |
| 19:40.33 | Mr_Molez | orchid: i believe this will work,, nah using sarge.. thanks for your help fellow bzflager ! |
| 19:40.40 | orchid | :) |
| 19:41.01 | markybob | anyone know where the hell evolution stores its email account info and contacts? i've deleted ~/.evolution and ~/.gconf/apps/evolution but it's still not a clean startup |
| 19:41.19 | goldenaura | Hi there. Where can i find comparatives between Debian Sarge 32bits and 64bits? Because i have been using FC64bits on a notebook and the experience was not so pleasant |
| 19:41.42 | asg | goldenaura: I'd start by asking #debian-amd64 what their experience is |
| 19:42.04 | goldenaura | asg: thanks ;) |
| 19:42.09 | asg | goldenaura: you're welcome |
| 19:42.43 | h7-25 | anyone in here doing sip voip on debian? |
| 19:42.59 | bingo | asg, do you know wher I can found a graphic showing how many bug we have in etch? |
| 19:43.42 | h7-25 | bingo: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
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| 19:44.51 | unstable_ | Me and my friend have a room full of computers(30) for the summer, and we are going to come in and play with them etc. I wanted to setup apache and something else...a website...to document the changes we make to each box...and talk about what we did...if one of us wasn't there...What is a good softwares to do this..maybe a cms...I'm not sure. |
| 19:44.57 | unstable_ | Anyone have any suggestions. |
| 19:44.58 | bingo | h7-25, thank you |
| 19:45.19 | asg | unstable_: python2.3-moinmoin |
| 19:45.33 | unstable_ | asg: Isn't that a wiki? |
| 19:45.35 | asg | unstable_: yes |
| 19:45.42 | jla | that's what I'd use |
| 19:45.42 | asg | unstable_: a perfectly usable solution in your case |
| 19:45.46 | unstable_ | asg: That's a little advanced...I was thinking something to keep small notes etc |
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| 19:46.04 | unstable_ | moinmoin is robust and large, no? |
| 19:46.16 | antoine-c | is there anybody using quodlibet in unstable here ? |
| 19:46.24 | jla | notepad? :P I'd use some wiki |
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| 19:46.45 | asg | unstable_: moinmoin isn't very hard to use at all. Wikis by their nature should be easy and transparent |
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| 19:46.58 | Daedalus_ | unstable_: You're going to want something wiki-ish at least |
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| 19:49.03 | asg | nethack |
| 19:49.06 | Eclipser | :> |
| 19:49.12 | Eclipser | I never liked nethack |
| 19:49.17 | POVaddct | enigma |
| 19:49.22 | asg | robotfindskitten |
| 19:49.27 | Eclipser | sick of enigma >: |
| 19:49.33 | unstable_ | Eclipser: apt-get install chromium wesnoth frozen-bubble armagetron supertux |
| 19:49.34 | Eclipser | it's the most annoying game in the world, really |
| 19:49.48 | asg | Eclipser: how about a nice game of chess? |
| 19:50.00 | Eclipser | asg, go! |
| 19:50.01 | POVaddct | Eclipser: i played the original oxyd on atari st |
| 19:50.13 | POVaddct | Eclipser: loooong time ago :) |
| 19:50.18 | cahoot | gnubg |
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| 19:50.31 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
| 19:50.46 | POVaddct | imaze :) |
| 19:50.46 | solemnwarning | Whats the support for SMP/Multi-core CPU's like in debian? |
| 19:50.54 | seb- | does VGA have its own bios? I'm playing with Bochs' virtual PC and it needs a "VGA BIOS" |
| 19:50.56 | asg | solemnwarning: been very good for me |
| 19:51.02 | solemnwarning | ok |
| 19:51.09 | antoine-c | <solemnwarning>, really good |
| 19:51.22 | POVaddct | seb-: try qemu instead of bochs. it's much faster. |
| 19:51.54 | StereoSkit | dudes, which module do i have to add to manage correctly my external usb dvd writer? |
| 19:51.57 | Eclipser | POVaddct, heh, but really... enigma has maps that are, to put it lightly, very annoying |
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| 19:52.10 | seb- | POVaddct: ok but i've never heard of a VGA BIOS...do video cards have that? |
| 19:52.11 | POVaddct | Eclipser: oh yes :) |
| 19:52.24 | Eclipser | I can't even pass the last of the tutorial maps |
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| 19:53.02 | POVaddct | seb-: it's a bios that belongs to bochs (image files). i think it's in a separate package. |
| 19:53.21 | h7-25 | can anyone recommend a sip compatible voip software that is based on alsa? |
| 19:53.30 | seb- | POVaddct: but do "normal" PCs have VGA BIOSes? |
| 19:53.38 | POVaddct | seb-: yes, they have |
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| 19:53.43 | asg | h7-25: dunno if gnomemeeting fits your needs but that would be my first choice |
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| 19:54.07 | seb- | POVaddct: so my ATI and NVIDIA video cards have a BIOS that gets seen at boot up by PC's BIOS? |
| 19:54.31 | h7-25 | hm i'll try and see weather the alsa part works allright |
| 19:54.35 | POVaddct | seb-: yeah. mostly vga bioses handle vesa stuff and such. |
| 19:54.49 | StereoSkit | found it, sd_mod |
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| 19:55.05 | h7-25 | seb-: you need the vgabios package |
| 19:55.07 | bancai | if i have two shell, pts/0 and pts/1, i start a script on pts/0 and still running, how can i redirect the output of pts/0 at pts/1 ? |
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| 19:55.15 | antoine-c | Anybody use quodlibet ? |
| 19:55.37 | asg | !anyone use |
| 19:55.37 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 19:55.43 | h7-25 | seb-: if you run sarge and want virtualizer functionallity from qemu you need to install from source though |
| 19:55.51 | antoine-c | asg, sorry |
| 19:55.54 | seb- | h7-25: ok |
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| 19:56.28 | asg | antoine-c: if you have an issue, just ask and be specific. |
| 19:57.28 | bancai | any idea? |
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| 19:58.29 | POVaddct | seb-: compile qemu 0.8.0 from source. really nice piece of software. |
| 19:58.49 | seb- | POVaddct: yea i nearly fell off my chair when i saw it support windoze |
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| 20:00.33 | h7-25 | seb-: if you compile qemu i'd suggest cvs since the new kqemu module really rocks (if speed is a matter) or just wait for 0.8.1 which should be out very soon |
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| 20:01.00 | seb- | h7-25: ok |
| 20:01.44 | POVaddct | h7-25: i like qemu for not needing a kernel module. of course its faster with it, but without it it's just a unprivileged user process. |
| 20:01.55 | h7-25 | asg: can gnomemeeting do sip? i didn't find no options to setup |
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| 20:02.46 | asg | h7-25: hmmm, thought it did. Maybe it's h.323 only. |
| 20:02.49 | h7-25 | POVaddct: well me to - to do development i don't use kqemu but to have a pretty fast windows available i don't mind using kqemu - if there wasn't this license issue |
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| 20:03.13 | POVaddct | h7-25: okay |
| 20:03.34 | asg | h7-25: perhaps 'apt-cache search sip phone' will give you more luck |
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| 20:04.43 | h7-25 | asg: the only client mentioned there is kphone - and this sw clearly has some issues with alsa :-) |
| 20:05.01 | asg | h7-25: is linphone not mentioned? |
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| 20:05.23 | POVaddct | h7-25: btw, did you sucessfully use the usb feature of qemu yet? |
| 20:05.33 | h7-25 | asg: linphone is not in stable anymore |
| 20:05.45 | asg | h7-25: /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 20:05.51 | h7-25 | POVaddct: yes for my memory stick - no success with wlan-adapter though |
| 20:05.57 | cureless | use gnomemeeting, I mean, whatever it's called now |
| 20:06.16 | h7-25 | cureless: ekiga or something like that :-) |
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| 20:07.08 | yetistomps | if i want to compile stuff from source.. what do I need to apt-get ? |
| 20:07.14 | POVaddct | h7-25: i tried a memory stick. but it was only visible in the guest's /proc/bus/usb/devices. the usb-storage module couldn't use it (timeouts). |
| 20:07.29 | asg | yetistomps: build-essential plus any *-dev packages for libraries needed |
| 20:07.38 | cureless | h7-25, iirc the new version does sip. the old one didn't. |
| 20:07.45 | smacnay | Is there a "cataloging" program available in linux. I have had a request for a music cataloging program. |
| 20:07.48 | h7-25 | POVaddct: well i guess thats the wrong channel for this discussion but when i used it (guest windows) it worked |
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| 20:08.01 | yetistomps | asg, how would i know what libraries are going to be needed? |
| 20:08.11 | cureless | yetistomps, what do you need to compile? dependencies vary. |
| 20:08.13 | POVaddct | h7-25: yeah, i'm slightly off topic :) |
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| 20:08.20 | yetistomps | cureless, mplayer. |
| 20:08.31 | cureless | yetistomps, don't compile that, get it from marillat. |
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| 20:08.56 | yetistomps | !marillat |
| 20:08.57 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add. If you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>. For specific sources.list lines, ask me about <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
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| 20:09.21 | yetistomps | cureless, thanks.. checking marillat |
| 20:09.29 | cureless | yetistomps, in the case of mplayer you can just run configure with the options you want, then see where configure fails. Then install the -dev package for that library. |
| 20:09.35 | asg | yetistomps: generally, the README in the tarball will tell you the requirements |
| 20:10.08 | linnuxxy | how to install jdk 5.0 on sarge? |
| 20:10.19 | cureless | yetistomps, for mplayer many of the libraries (all?) are optional, so it'll compile fine, you just won't have all functionality, I mean, who needs to play wavepak files anyway? |
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| 20:10.40 | yetistomps | cureless, so suffice to say.. the marillat package should be sufficient then? |
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| 20:13.35 | linnuxxy | how to install sun jdk 5.0 on sarge? |
| 20:13.46 | asg | linnuxxy: /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 20:15.25 | smacnay | I was surprised... I was installing mplayer from source on a friend's computer but it would not compile due to there being no liblame0 and liblame-dev. I install lame from source and still mplayer did not compile. I needed to go to marilat and get the liblame-dev for compile to occur. Just a side note. |
| 20:15.37 | wzup | is "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main" the same as "deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main" ? |
| 20:15.42 | linnuxxy | thnx asg |
| 20:15.47 | wzup | im editing my sources.list |
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| 20:17.53 | zwerg | Can anyone confirm that DRI on rage128 with newest unstable packages is broken? |
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| 20:20.38 | cureless | yetistomps, yes. Though recently I've had problems with the sid package, hopefully they'll fix it soon |
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| 20:21.02 | Esaj | what's a sensible umask to use on a multi-user system? |
| 20:21.06 | rohan | these days, ftp.debian.org is almost always DOWN ! anyone know of a mirror which is as quickly updated as ftp.d.o ? |
| 20:21.31 | zwerg | ftp.de.debian.org? |
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| 20:22.06 | cureless | rohan, choose one in the country you're at. A lot of times they are round-robined, so sometimes you'll get a fast one, other times a slow one. |
| 20:22.33 | rohan | cureless: in india, the iitm mirror is very very very bad |
| 20:22.46 | rohan | is there any aussie one ? ftp.au.debian.org is fine ? |
| 20:22.48 | cureless | rohan, you can also try netselect-apt |
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| 20:23.44 | cureless | rohan, netselect-apt will do it for you, but you can always go to the debian page and browse the mirror list. |
| 20:23.46 | rohan | cureless: how do i download that too ? the mirror aint working |
| 20:23.57 | cureless | rohan, which mirror? |
| 20:24.05 | rohan | cureless: ftp.debian.org |
| 20:24.19 | cureless | rohan, use ftp.us.debian.org or any other country for now. |
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| 20:25.12 | cureless | rohan, for you maybe china, russia, korea or singapore |
| 20:25.20 | rohan | cureless: ftp.us.debian.org is not workignd too |
| 20:25.25 | rohan | cureless: yes, ok |
| 20:25.29 | rohan | thanks a lot, cureless ! |
| 20:25.49 | cureless | rohan, those are round-robin, if they don't work your dns or routes are screwed up. |
| 20:25.49 | rohan | btw, the xserver-xorg problem is still not fixed in sid, right ? or is it just my pc ? |
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| 20:26.10 | cureless | rohan, not fixed afaik. |
| 20:26.22 | rohan | cureless: yes, my dns is screwed up. i need to use public dns'es like 4.2.2.2 and so on |
| 20:26.32 | rohan | are there any nice robust free public dns server ? |
| 20:26.39 | rohan | my isp one, as i said, is sucky :S |
| 20:26.44 | cureless | run your own dns server. |
| 20:26.49 | rohan | most of the sites are redirected to 1.0.0.0 |
| 20:26.58 | dorao_ | rohan xorg works fine for me now |
| 20:27.04 | rohan | cureless: heh, i have only one box |
| 20:27.06 | rohan | oh, ok, dorao_ |
| 20:27.12 | cureless | apt-get install bind9 && cat nameserver 127.0.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 20:27.31 | rohan | i mean, the error why file upgrading xserver-xorg in sid, dorao_ |
| 20:27.33 | cureless | dorao_, did you just update? |
| 20:27.43 | rohan | thats not working here |
| 20:27.48 | rohan | xserver-xorg failed to preconfigure, with exit status 10 |
| 20:28.03 | dorao_ | cureless just updated and restarted X yesterday |
| 20:28.06 | cureless | it still fails for me. |
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| 20:28.22 | cureless | dorao_, did you just install unstable? did you have it running before? |
| 20:28.25 | dorao_ | I'm running unstable |
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| 20:28.36 | dorao_ | been runing it for a couple years |
| 20:28.39 | rohan | Preparing to replace xserver-xorg 1:7.0.14 (using .../xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.15_all.deb) ... |
| 20:28.40 | cureless | dorao_, was it running unstable before? say, last week just fine? |
| 20:28.42 | rohan | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.15_all.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10 |
| 20:28.45 | rohan | Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.0.15_all.deb |
| 20:28.47 | cureless | dorao_, then you don't have the upgrade problem. |
| 20:28.49 | rohan | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 20:28.51 | rohan | strange |
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| 20:28.56 | rohan | cureless: what solved the problem ? |
| 20:29.01 | cureless | dorao_, my unstable box is fine, but the one I was installing yesterday is not. |
| 20:29.07 | dorao_ | ah |
| 20:29.07 | cureless | rohan, it's not solved. |
| 20:29.13 | _abbenormal | rohan, look at this im having the same problem http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=365282 |
| 20:29.22 | keir_ | anyone having random segfaults in Xorg after updating today? |
| 20:29.33 | cureless | for everybodt that is having the same problem, check the /topic, read the wiki. |
| 20:29.36 | rohan | cureless: oh, you said "not fixed" i read fixed :( |
| 20:30.09 | cureless | keir_, not on the ones where X is working :-) |
| 20:30.40 | keir_ | after about 1/2 hr X just dies with a traceback |
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| 20:36.10 | vinzbn | Hi! I've followed this french howto to upgrade my kernel (http://www.andesi.org/index.php?node=77), but while compiling, I've a write-only error for this file /arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o (http://pastebin.com/694933). I've tried make-kpkg clean to correct that in vain. It's my first kernel upgrade and I don't know what to do now. |
| 20:37.06 | cureless | vinzbn, do you have a need to compile the kernel? or is it just fun? |
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| 20:37.37 | vinzbn | cureless > yes I had to compile it to add a ip_conntrack_pptp patch |
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| 20:38.22 | vinzbn | cureless > I've 2.6.8 and I need to use 2.6.14 min (http://www.netfilter.org/projects/conntrack/index.html) |
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| 20:38.58 | pego | hi nagiso 2 isn't on sarge ? :/ |
| 20:39.17 | cureless | vinzbn, are you doing everything as root? |
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| 20:39.33 | xface | hello |
| 20:39.34 | vinzbn | cureless > no I used a user called "toto " |
| 20:39.34 | xface | cp -R font-arial-* /usr/share/mplayer/font |
| 20:39.47 | cureless | vinzbn, try doing it from root. |
| 20:39.57 | xface | this will also copy the directories or just dir contents? |
| 20:40.04 | cureless | vinzbn, or giving toto the permissions it needs. |
| 20:40.07 | BeNjaX | vinzbn i need help about mail server under debian woddy 3.0, you can help me? |
| 20:40.20 | vinzbn | cureless > id toto => uid=1003(toto) gid=40(src) groups=40(src) |
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| 20:41.04 | vinzbn | BeNjaX > I'm sorry I'm soon an a medium-big problem for me :/ really sorry |
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| 20:41.11 | nougat | xface: -R stands for recursion... |
| 20:41.13 | cureless | xface, that will copy everything named font-arial-*, including directories and contents. |
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| 20:41.42 | cureless | BeNjaX, ask your question to the channel, somebody might be able to help |
| 20:41.44 | xface | right |
| 20:41.54 | xface | i want only the directoris contents though |
| 20:42.11 | wireddd | hda in this machine has 20gigs of free space at the begining of the drive that I want to move my partition that is mounted as root too, what is the best way to go about doing this? |
| 20:42.34 | cureless | wireddd, depending on overlaps, parted. |
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| 20:45.13 | nougat | xface: find dir -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I '{}' cp '{}' target |
| 20:45.58 | vinzbn | cureless > I've done it with root, and It's horrible now : http://pastebin.com/695006 |
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| 20:46.19 | xface | cp -R font-arial-* /usr/share/mplayer/font |
| 20:46.22 | xface | i mean here |
| 20:46.32 | xface | hho do i tell it to copy just the contents |
| 20:46.38 | xface | and not fires themserlves? |
| 20:46.58 | nougat | you want directories only? or files only? |
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| 20:47.18 | xface | files |
| 20:47.27 | xface | the files contained in those dirs |
| 20:47.39 | nougat | that command I just wrote out should do it |
| 20:47.42 | nougat | files only |
| 20:47.57 | xface | i dont understand thsi command |
| 20:48.09 | xface | i wont to specify it with cp |
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| 20:48.53 | nougat | you could also do cp dir*/file* TARGET but that only covers one level of directories, if there's multiple subdirectories use that above command and it'll do everything |
| 20:49.29 | cureless | vinzbn, start from scratch with root. |
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| 20:51.10 | vinzbn | cureless > do you mean delete the directory and restart ? because I've tried to delete the directory, and it says to me "rm: cannot remove `linux-2.6.14': Read-only file system" (I'm with root) |
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| 20:52.05 | vinzbn | when I say "the directory" I speak about the directory where I've unpacked the source file (/home/toto/src/linux) |
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| 20:52.19 | cureless | vinzbn, are you in a read-only filesystem? |
| 20:52.45 | BeNjaX | anybody know a good mail server administrator via web? |
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| 20:52.51 | vinzbn | cureless > normally no |
| 20:53.00 | cureless | vinzbn, normally? |
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| 20:53.19 | pinky | I'm looking for an application with similar functionality to DVD Decrypter under Windows... any ideas? |
| 20:53.25 | cureless | vinzbn, run mount, are any filesystems read only? |
| 20:53.34 | cureless | pinky, what does dvd decrypter do? |
| 20:53.45 | vinzbn | cureless > I've done nothing to have my system on read-only |
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| 20:54.04 | cureless | vinzbn, run mount and look |
| 20:54.20 | pinky | cureless: decrypting CSS on DVD movies and dumping the unencrypted VOBs to the hard drive for reencoding or reburning |
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| 20:55.09 | vinzbn | cureless > mount --> http://pastebin.com/695030 |
| 20:55.20 | cureless | pinky, http://www.igso.net/nkb/Ripping_DVD's_in_Linux |
| 20:55.28 | pego | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.50 | cureless | pinky, dvd::rip, quickrip or mencoder. |
| 20:55.55 | pinky | cureless: Thanks! |
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| 20:57.06 | pinky | cureless: No packages come up when I do a search for "mencoder" and only a small amount of useless ones when I search for "mplayer" |
| 20:57.23 | cureless | pinky, you need to add marillat |
| 20:57.26 | cureless | !marillat |
| 20:57.26 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add. If you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>. For specific sources.list lines, ask me about <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
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| 20:57.54 | pinky | Ah, okay, thanks... fucking patents. |
| 20:57.59 | cureless | pinky, you should have read the webpage. |
| 20:58.35 | cureless | vinzbn, try deleting that one file that's giving you problems as root with rm. |
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| 21:00.12 | vinzbn | cureless > I can't do anything in this read-only directory .... what the hell fu.... ?? |
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| 21:00.50 | cureless | vinzbn, are you on the machine you're supposed to be in? |
| 21:00.55 | vinzbn | cureless > no ssh |
| 21:01.19 | cureless | vinzbn, but you ssh'ed to the right machine, right? |
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| 21:02.03 | Niklas_E | how do you install the qt-mt thing? |
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| 21:02.22 | vinzbn | cureless > yes of course ;P |
| 21:02.25 | Niklas_E | tried to install every qt package |
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| 21:02.33 | cureless | Niklas_E, libqt3c102-mt |
| 21:02.36 | k-god | How would I tell if my hwclock is localtime or utc? or is there no way to find out? man hwclock suggests you can *set* the value but you can't *query* it. |
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| 21:02.43 | cureless | Niklas_E, on sarge/stable. |
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| 21:03.05 | cureless | k-god, what do you want to know, what time your clock is at? |
| 21:03.14 | k-god | cureless: YEs. |
| 21:03.23 | cureless | k-god, hwclock --show |
| 21:03.43 | pilgrim | I installed slapd. Anyone know where the configuartion files are located? |
| 21:04.01 | valdyn | pilgrim: dpkg -L slapd | grep etc |
| 21:04.26 | k-god | cureless: RTFM. That reports the date, but always to the current TZ. It doesn't show the actual UTC/localtime setting. |
| 21:04.35 | paddy2706 | hello ppl, q: i tried to build my own php4 deb pkg from the debian source modifying the debian/rules file. now after compiling everything, the script wants to move the files into the right directories, but it just gives me an error claiming that debian/movelist does not exist. is this file usually created by the script or shipped with the package? |
| 21:04.35 | pilgrim | valdyn, :) thanks |
| 21:04.50 | valdyn | pilgrim: uh, try it first, this doesnt work for all cases |
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| 21:05.21 | k-god | cureless: I suppose booting and checking BIOS reported value might work. |
| 21:05.22 | pilgrim | valdyn, seems to work. |
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| 21:06.11 | cureless | k-god, hehe, whoops. |
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| 21:06.28 | cureless | k-god, in that case just check what you have in /etc/defaults/rcS, that should tell you |
| 21:06.32 | k-god | cureless: Yeah, it's sort of a pita. |
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| 21:07.00 | cureless | k-god, or, just do a hwclock --hctosys --localtime and see if the date is correct, if it is, then you have localtime, otherwise utc time. |
| 21:07.04 | thom_ | HOw can I mount a drive that is physically attached to my computer? |
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| 21:07.20 | thom_ | Also: How do I find out if it's hdd1 etc.. |
| 21:07.28 | valdyn | thom_: cat /proc/partitions |
| 21:07.30 | k-god | cureless: Found it ;-) |
| 21:07.42 | valdyn | thom_: but you dont really want to mount drives anyway |
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| 21:08.06 | valdyn | thom_: unless its something like a cdrom drive |
| 21:08.07 | thom_ | valdyn I don't? |
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| 21:08.16 | valdyn | thom_: hdd1 is not a drive |
| 21:08.18 | thom_ | valdyn It's a disk drive |
| 21:08.36 | valdyn | !partition |
| 21:08.36 | dpkg | hmm... partition is You can partition your hard drive by breaking it up into one or more pieces, or "partitions." Partition |
| 21:09.14 | thom_ | valdyn I have two hard disk drives in this computer, two physical drives. |
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| 21:09.26 | thom_ | Once isn't doing anything |
| 21:09.30 | thom_ | One |
| 21:09.34 | bazz | is there a way to not have gdm start X with the -auth option? |
| 21:09.43 | valdyn | thom_: ls /proc/ide/ |
| 21:10.05 | dondelelcaro | bazz: edit your /etc/gdm/Servers or whatever the equivalent is now. |
| 21:10.10 | pego | sorry but i see a mirror with nagios2 in "main" i put the url in source and i apt-get update but i can't see nagios2 in the list :( |
| 21:11.07 | thom_ | valdyn ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc 1 3 8.... etc |
| 21:11.41 | bazz | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 21:12.04 | pego | how i install just one package and dep from unstable please ? |
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| 21:12.42 | stew | pego: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 21:13.26 | antoine-c_ | pego, unstable |
| 21:13.47 | pego | stew: sarge |
| 21:13.59 | philips | pego: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning?highlight=%28pinning%29 |
| 21:14.15 | pego | stew: i just need nagios2 i see it on mirror but can't apt-cache search it :/ |
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| 21:15.11 | stew | pego: you don't want to install unstable packages on stable, you want to install a backport ; /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg simple sarge backport |
| 21:15.44 | pego | stew: how |
| 21:16.08 | stew | !tell pego about backports |
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| 21:16.15 | stew | !tell pego about simple sid backport |
| 21:17.20 | pego | stew: hum thx but can you explain me why i can't see nagios2 ? :/ |
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| 21:18.16 | thom_ | valdyn there? |
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| 21:18.29 | unstable_ | asg: I installed python2.3-moinmoin and moinmoin-common .. but there is nothing in /var/www ... How do I fireup the wiki? |
| 21:19.39 | stew | pego: nagios wasn't released long enough before sarge was frozen to be included in sarge when it released, so its not in sarge |
| 21:19.42 | lazzarello | how do I disable the console framebuffer at boot time? |
| 21:19.47 | stew | ^nagios^nagios2 |
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| 21:20.10 | stew | lazzarello: append "vga=normal" to the kernel command line |
| 21:20.22 | lazzarello | thanks |
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| 21:20.35 | yacoob | Hi there. |
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| 21:20.59 | stew | unstable_: read /usr/share/docs/moinmoin-common/README.Debian |
| 21:21.08 | yacoob | Can anyone recommend me some mass mp3/ogg tagger that looks up info on musicbrainz/freedb? |
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| 21:21.51 | markybob | yacoob, lltag |
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| 21:22.12 | mortal__ | how do I tell xserver-xorg package installation to just install it |
| 21:22.12 | paddy2706 | hello ppl, q: i tried to build my own php4 deb pkg from the debian source modifying the debian/rules file. now after compiling everything, the script wants to move the files into the right directories, but it just gives me an error claiming that debian/movelist does not exist. is this file usually created by the script or shipped with the package? |
| 21:22.23 | mortal__ | as in unpack not any scripts which suck ass now |
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| 21:23.24 | DaBlade | Hello |
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| 21:23.32 | DaBlade | Can someone help me out with this issue? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=440656 |
| 21:23.33 | vinzbn | cureless > I go now, so thanks for your help. |
| 21:23.40 | LinuxHelp | and the biggest debian stable repository in the us is: |
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| 21:24.19 | stew | LinuxHelp: biggest? what do you mean? all the mirrors have the same packages |
| 21:24.31 | LinuxHelp | stew: oh, didnt know that :) |
| 21:24.43 | DaBlade | *bump* |
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| 21:25.20 | zrin | stew: should have ... |
| 21:25.31 | DaBlade | Sorry to nag, but could anyone please help me out? |
| 21:25.42 | LinuxHelp | so whats the official official official repo then? |
| 21:26.16 | h7-25 | DaBlade: no meta-questions |
| 21:26.20 | zrin | LinuxHelp: read mirrors.txt |
| 21:26.26 | pego | stew: so if i dn' want a release frozen i need pass to testing ? |
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| 21:26.41 | DaBlade | h7-25: My question is posted on that forum, it's too much to explain all over again |
| 21:26.49 | DaBlade | h7-25: You have to see the output from apt which is pasted there |
| 21:26.55 | DaBlade | Apt just keeps dying on me. |
| 21:27.02 | paddy2706 | hello ppl, q: i tried to build my own php4 deb pkg from the debian source modifying the debian/rules file. now after compiling everything, the script wants to move the files into the right directories, but it just gives me an error claiming that debian/movelist does not exist. is this file usually created by the script or shipped with the package? |
| 21:27.08 | LinuxHelp | box:/# locate mirrors.txt box:/# |
| 21:27.46 | stew | pego: what do you mean exactly? were you not aware that stable never gets new versions of packages once it is released? |
| 21:28.18 | zrin | DaBlade: you may try to force dpkg to remove a package |
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| 21:28.25 | zrin | DaBlade: if oyu have to |
| 21:28.27 | DaBlade | zrin: Tried it |
| 21:28.31 | DaBlade | zrin: Still dies |
| 21:28.38 | DaBlade | zrin: As you see in the output pasted on the forum |
| 21:28.50 | DaBlade | --purge, --force don't seem to have an effect |
| 21:28.54 | zrin | DaBlade: you used the force options? |
| 21:29.35 | DaBlade | zrin: Yep |
| 21:29.37 | DaBlade | --force-all |
| 21:29.39 | DaBlade | Still dies |
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| 21:30.01 | thom_ | What is usually at /dev/hda5 ? |
| 21:30.06 | zrin | DaBlade: which release? |
| 21:30.14 | DaBlade | zrin: Etch |
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| 21:30.32 | DaBlade | (It's all pasted on the forum... that's kind of why I gave the link - I don't wanna re-explain everything) |
| 21:30.48 | markybob | thom_ the 1st logical partition in device hda |
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| 21:30.59 | zrin | thom_: first "logical" partition in the "extended" part on the "first" IDE hard |
| 21:31.16 | thom_ | then what is hda1 ? |
| 21:31.24 | zrin | DaBlade: which architecture? |
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| 21:31.30 | DaBlade | Sysinfo for 'RazorBlade': Linux 2.6.15-1-486 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ at 1921 MHz (3844 bogomips), HD: 27/181GB, RAM: 839/885MB, 111 proc's, 1.3d up |
| 21:31.32 | markybob | thom_, the 1st primary partition. go read a manual |
| 21:31.36 | pego | stew: for a server it's not bad to go to testing ? |
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| 21:31.41 | mortal__ | how do I tell dpkg to ignore everything and just install |
| 21:31.46 | zrin | thom_: first primary partition on the first ide hard |
| 21:32.13 | thom_ | zrin How can detect a secondary, slave, hard disk drive on my system? |
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| 21:32.29 | stew | pego: its better to stay with stable and use backports. however running testing isn't as bad as it used to be now that there is some security support for testing |
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| 21:32.41 | mortal__ | how do I force a package installation in dpkg? |
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| 21:32.56 | nima | hello |
| 21:33.13 | pego | stew: to pass from stable to testing, i just have to change source and make and apt-get upgrade ? |
| 21:33.15 | zrin | thom_: it depends on your OS ... but it should happen automatically on reboot, I assume you're not hotplugging it |
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| 21:33.43 | nima | i have a problem with suspend-to-disk, i did echo -n disk > /sys/power/state, and it doesnt un-suspend |
| 21:33.50 | DaBlade | zrin: dpkg and apt keep dying, I can't figure out how to fix it |
| 21:33.59 | nima | it just boots normally, with a ruined swap partition |
| 21:34.00 | thom_ | zrin:Debian. It's in there, but just isn't mounted (I think) |
| 21:34.00 | loggygreg | msg dpkg 2006 key |
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| 21:34.10 | thom_ | zrin: Debian Sarge |
| 21:34.14 | nima | i also cant figure out how to fix the partition |
| 21:34.16 | DaBlade | the broken package gcj-4.1 seems to be the PITA. |
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| 21:35.54 | plasmoduck | hey I installed Gallery, but I can't remove it properly cause everytime I reinstall it and config It I keep getting the errors |
| 21:35.54 | plasmoduck | Error: You must create an empty file named config.php and chmod it 777 before proceeding. See the documentation for more details. |
| 21:35.55 | plasmoduck | Error: File .htaccess is optional, however some Gallery features will be disabled unless you create an empty file named .htaccess and chmod it to 777 before proceeding. See the documentation for more details. |
| 21:35.55 | nima | is there any way of recreating the swap partition |
| 21:35.57 | roob | Can anyone recommend me a dedicated server hosting company? I always liked rimuhosting but I'm having problems with them. Is server beach any good? Tilted? Any others? I just need a reliable server, fast setup, trusted company. Thanks alot |
| 21:35.57 | zrin | DaBlade: unfortunately, I'm not a dpkg expert either :-/ ... i had similar (but more lightweight) problem earlier today, but it went away after I purged and/or installed one or some different (unrelated) packages |
| 21:35.57 | nima | deleting it and then recreating it with cfdisk doesnt work |
| 21:35.58 | mortal__ | is it possible to force a package installation with dpkg? |
| 21:35.58 | DaBlade | zrin: Know anyone who might be able to help? |
| 21:35.58 | mortal__ | as in not caring about the exit values of the scripts |
| 21:35.59 | zrin | DaBlade: repositorys were apparently incomplete / not synced for some time |
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| 21:36.02 | antoine-c_ | mortal__ dpkg --force-all |
| 21:36.10 | mortal__ | thanks |
| 21:36.28 | DaBlade | zrin: Is that the reason dpkg decided to take a vacation? |
| 21:36.28 | zrin | thom_: then mount it ... try cfdisk /dev/hdb first |
| 21:36.31 | mortal__ | antoine-c_: no luck |
| 21:36.36 | mortal__ | I have a script which fails |
| 21:36.37 | mortal__ | some bug |
| 21:36.40 | zrin | thom_: too look what is on it |
| 21:37.20 | zrin | DaBlade: that is my interpretation ... I even got some messages about broken packages / archives |
| 21:37.36 | antoine-c_ | mortal__ what are the errors ? |
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| 21:37.51 | DaBlade | zrin: Yeah, but dpkg/apt itself is dead |
| 21:37.53 | zrin | DaBlade: does apt-get update work? |
| 21:38.00 | DaBlade | zrin: Nope |
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| 21:38.06 | thom_ | zrin ok |
| 21:38.06 | DaBlade | It's as alive as a door knob |
| 21:38.13 | mortal__ | exit status 10 |
| 21:38.17 | mortal__ | from pre installation script |
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| 21:38.26 | mortal__ | and something about debconf migration |
| 21:38.32 | mortal__ | xorg-server is the package |
| 21:38.42 | jetscreamer | so what's the deal with packages like boson for kde, the debian package maintainer left? |
| 21:38.43 | zrin | DaBlade: you can try to wget the relevant apt packages and try to dpkg -i them |
| 21:39.10 | thom_ | zrin a bootable linux partition ext2 |
| 21:39.22 | antoine-c_ | mortal__ pastebin the errors |
| 21:39.32 | DaBlade | zrin: I could, but I don't know from where it grabs them |
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| 21:39.52 | callan | I was going to test unstable, am I right in the assumption that I don't need the security repo anymore? Is that why it 404s with the unstable entry? |
| 21:39.54 | zrin | DaBlade: or to restore relevant directories from your backup |
| 21:40.05 | DaBlade | zrin: Backup? |
| 21:40.10 | stew | callan: unstable doesn't have any security support |
| 21:40.19 | zrin | thom_: mount /dev/hdb1 /where/you/like/it |
| 21:40.21 | callan | Ok that's what I thought. |
| 21:40.24 | DaBlade | Shit... now I'm gonna get the "always make backups" lecture. lol |
| 21:40.26 | stew | pego: /msg dpkg stable->testing |
| 21:40.29 | quebee | mortal it's not your machine it's the package |
| 21:40.40 | mortal__ | I know |
| 21:40.43 | zrin | DaBlade: you know the insurance is void without backup, don't you ;) |
| 21:40.45 | quebee | let it go for a few days |
| 21:40.55 | mortal__ | but isn't there really any "I just want these files in their places" option in dpkg |
| 21:41.06 | mortal__ | and be done with it |
| 21:41.07 | fklutiero_ | jetscreamer: what kind of deal could there be? |
| 21:41.18 | callan | Also, whenever I've used testing or unstable I've gotten warnings from perl and gtk etc. about having to fall back to the 'C' locale. What's up with that? |
| 21:41.27 | plasmoduck | hey I installed Gallery, but I can't remove it properly cause everytime I reinstall it and config It I keep getting the errors |
| 21:41.45 | plasmoduck | Error: You must create an empty file named config.php and chmod it 777 before proceeding. See the documentation for more details. |
| 21:41.45 | stew | callan: apt-get install locales |
| 21:41.49 | plasmoduck | Error: File .htaccess is optional, however some Gallery features will be disabled unless you create an empty file named .htaccess and chmod it to 777 before proceeding. See the documentation for more details. |
| 21:41.54 | lazzarello | is NIS the easiest way in Debian to set up synced UIDs on an NFS export? |
| 21:41.56 | pego | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.59 | JoshH | anyone know if thunderbird is broken in sid today? |
| 21:42.00 | zrin | DaBlade: when you solve this problem, take look at the bootcd package |
| 21:42.02 | pego | oops |
| 21:42.04 | callan | stew: Thanks. |
| 21:42.09 | zrin | DaBlade: it's a real gem |
| 21:42.13 | DaBlade | zrin: When or if? |
| 21:42.16 | DaBlade | zrin: Bootcd? |
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| 21:42.43 | mortal__ | is there a simple option to only unpack files for dpkg |
| 21:42.46 | zrin | DaBlade: yes, it creates a live CD or DVD from your current system. like a bootable snapshot |
| 21:42.56 | DaBlade | Like a Gentoo Stage4 |
| 21:43.24 | thom_ | zrin: that didn't work but I'm on the right track, thanks. |
| 21:43.31 | callan | stew: Maybe you can help on last time, there's also that apt can't verify the gpg keys of the packages. How do I fix that? |
| 21:43.53 | zrin | thom_: you have to use an existent empty dir as mount point, and the partition has to be formatted |
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| 21:44.43 | callan | Nevermind, got it. |
| 21:44.46 | callan | Thanks for the help. |
| 21:45.09 | DaBlade | zrin: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-312817.html |
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| 21:57.25 | nn- | how can I set the dirty bit on a xfs partition so it will checked upon the next boot? |
| 21:57.42 | plasmoduck | how do I change my apt source? |
| 21:58.05 | pilgrim | how do I cut and paste in vi? |
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| 21:58.07 | _abbenormal | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.13 | markybob | plasmid, apt-setup or nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:58.25 | _abbenormal | etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:58.29 | plasmoduck | I want it to use iinet not pacific |
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| 22:01.10 | Shadowcat | man |
| 22:01.12 | Shadowcat | three n00b questions in a row |
| 22:01.18 | Shadowcat | it's not Sunday is it? |
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| 22:02.06 | stew | Shadowcat: man date |
| 22:02.35 | Shadowcat | bah |
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| 22:02.49 | Shadowcat | wonder if there's a way to turn this thing off :P |
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| 22:03.28 | _abbenormal | its called a power button |
| 22:03.29 | eugman | I'm running ubtuntu but I haven't gotten any help in that channel. Are bdf fonts usuable in debian or are they deprecated? |
| 22:03.55 | stew | eugman: ubuntu questions are off topic here. ask in #ubuntu or on a ubuntu mailing list |
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| 22:06.44 | paddy2706 | hello ppl, q: i tried to build my own php4 deb pkg from the debian source modifying the debian/rules file. now after compiling everything, the script wants to move the files into the right directories, but it just gives me an error claiming that debian/movelist does not exist. is this file usually created by the script or shipped with the package? |
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| 22:06.53 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 22:07.06 | yassine | anyone here runing oracle on debian please ? |
| 22:07.23 | thingfish | I'll swear, the #ubuntu channel must just be worthless. |
| 22:07.39 | stew | paddy2706: you are having trouble building the package or installing the resulting package? and what was the change you made to rules? |
| 22:07.45 | dbe | yassine, that is non-free software, why would you like to use it? |
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| 22:08.01 | dondelelcaro | paddy2706: it'd help if you'd tell us what package you're trying to build, and exactly what the changes you've made to it are. |
| 22:08.13 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, why every time that I do an operation with gpg and my key I receive this message? "gpg: NOTE ingnoring the old file of the default options `/home/gonzalo/.gnupg/options'" |
| 22:08.24 | yassine | dbe, i know it is but sometime its not my decision :s |
| 22:08.32 | dondelelcaro | SonnyBurnett: because you've got a .gnupg/options, and it's changed to gpg.conf |
| 22:09.21 | SonnyBurnett | dondelelcaro, so I just have to rename it ? |
| 22:09.24 | dbe | yassine, then tell them if they listen to your voice and try to convince them to use MySQL or PostgreSQL |
| 22:10.12 | dondelelcaro | SonnyBurnett: if you want to keep the same options, yes. |
| 22:10.40 | paddy2706 | stew, dondelelcaro: thanks for answering. im trying to build php4 for me to use with fcgi. i changed the configure parameters in the rules file to the ones depicted on this website: http://www.syscp.de/wiki/contrib/PHP-FCGI-ger#PHPalsFastCGIkompilieren |
| 22:10.45 | pego | stew: that only bad point of testing is securty or there is many time package that don't work |
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| 22:11.10 | catlee | Good evening |
| 22:11.23 | stew | pego: /msg dpkg testing security |
| 22:11.27 | paddy2706 | stew, dondelelcaro: problem is, that it builds lots of packages that i dont need (like php4-dev) which results in a problem due to the prefix |
| 22:12.20 | dondelelcaro | paddy2706: there's no reason to change the package name in the control file; just increment the version. |
| 22:12.54 | dondelelcaro | paddy2706: and it sure looks like they've totally screwed up the ./configure call in that howto |
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| 22:13.04 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: u did not quite understand me, i did not modify the control file in any way, i only changed the configure |
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| 22:13.24 | catlee | Is there any filesystem and/or RAID combination out there that handles: (a) failure of at least one drive, (b) heterogeneous sized drives, (c) snapshots |
| 22:13.27 | dondelelcaro | paddy2706: use the paster bot to give us the interdiff |
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| 22:13.34 | _abbenormal | still having issues with dpkg someone tale a look followed this info to try and correct it but still getting same error http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=365282 |
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| 22:13.46 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 365282 |
| 22:13.49 | dpkg | #365282:G[xserver-xorg] xserver-xorg 7.0.15 fails installation (pre-inst exit status 10); Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:33:02 UTC |
| 22:13.50 | pego | stew: damn you're bot rox |
| 22:13.51 | paddy2706 | diff for rules? |
| 22:14.01 | _abbenormal | heres the paste http://channels.debian.net/paste/2470 |
| 22:14.07 | catlee | Oh, and (d) add/remove drives from the system while it's live (no need to remount) |
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| 22:14.11 | dondelelcaro | paddy2706: diff for the entire source package. I assume you incremented debian/changelog |
| 22:14.39 | SonnyBurnett | I'm trying to export my key to the certserver.pgp.com server but it fails, the command is: "gpg --keyserver certserver.pgp.com --send-keys B68DA2AB", I got the "time up" message, why |
| 22:14.40 | catlee | ZFS looked promising, but it's never going to show up in linux, and I think it required identical drive sizes |
| 22:14.57 | Phlexonance | where is the log located from the events during boot |
| 22:15.05 | JoshTriplett | SonnyBurnett: Does exporting to another server work? |
| 22:15.10 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: sure, may take some time, since my source folder is completely compiled |
| 22:15.11 | stew | Phlexonance: /msg dpkg bootlog |
| 22:15.21 | dondelelcaro | catlee: d is a function of the hardware; a and b can be done with various raid arrangements; c is a function of the filesystem. |
| 22:15.39 | SonnyBurnett | JoshTriplett, yep, to keysever.net it worked |
| 22:15.52 | JoshTriplett | SonnyBurnett: Then blame certserver.pgp.com. :) |
| 22:15.53 | dondelelcaro | paddy2706: eh? you just run interdiff -z php4-yadayada-1.diff.gz php4-yadayada-2.diff.gz; |
| 22:15.58 | JoshTriplett | SonnyBurnett: Let me try that one. |
| 22:16.04 | SonnyBurnett | Is enough to export it just to one server? |
| 22:16.14 | catlee | dondelelcaro: for (d) I mean the ability to resize the filesystem without unmounting it |
| 22:16.25 | dondelelcaro | catlee: almost no filesystem has that ability |
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| 22:16.46 | JoshTriplett | SonnyBurnett: ping and firefox both find that server down. |
| 22:17.31 | JoshTriplett | catlee: ext2 has tools to do that I think, as does reiser (I think) and JFS (I think). |
| 22:17.48 | SonnyBurnett | JoshTriplett, yep, now what happened with people who exported them key to that "down" server? |
| 22:17.49 | catlee | dondelelcaro: And doesn't (b) usually mean treating all drives as though they are the same size as the smallest drive in the array? |
| 22:17.50 | JoshTriplett | catlee: You will also want the ability to resize partitions, so you'd want something like lvm. |
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| 22:18.00 | JoshTriplett | SonnyBurnett: I dunno. |
| 22:18.04 | dondelelcaro | catlee: no. |
| 22:18.06 | JoshTriplett | SonnyBurnett: Most good keyservers peer keys. |
| 22:18.25 | dondelelcaro | catlee: JBOD FE, doesn't care what sizes the drives are |
| 22:19.01 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: sorry i dont understand interdiff usage, i only have one .diff.gz in my source folder |
| 22:19.08 | dondelelcaro | (there are a few massively distributed filesystems that can also satisfy those requirements, but they're not normal filesystems in the POSIX sense in most cases) |
| 22:19.38 | dondelelcaro | paddy2706: in building the package, you should have built a new diff.gz for the version that you changed. You need to compare that to the original version. |
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| 22:20.18 | catlee | yeah, JBOD will handle any size of drive, but then you lose redundancy, don't you? |
| 22:20.21 | paddy2706 | but i didnt |
| 22:20.32 | paddy2706 | i tell you i only changed one file |
| 22:20.38 | paddy2706 | that is rules |
| 22:20.55 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: i can tell you i only changed the one file debian/rules |
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| 22:23.08 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: heres my changed debian/rules file, if it helps you anyhow |
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| 22:23.14 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2471 |
| 22:23.17 | Phlexonance | I switched from KDE to Gnome and suddenly the sound doesnt work, I just ran alsaconf again but its still silent |
| 22:24.16 | azeem | Phlexonance: maybe try to run esd (in gnome-audio-properties or so) |
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| 22:24.59 | offle | sorry. i have a really stupid question. i am a newbie on debian/linux. i installed the system and chose to start the x-server.. but there are only colored stripes on my display? what is the syntax in the safemode console to configure the x-server again? |
| 22:25.40 | RichiH | offle: first, hit alt-ctrl-f1 to get to the console |
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| 22:25.46 | Phlexonance | azeem, havent installed esd |
| 22:25.56 | RichiH | the rest depends on if you use xorg or xfree86 |
| 22:25.59 | jetscreamer | why are there copies of programs like mkisofs growisofs and cdrdao in /usr/bin/X11/ as well as /usr/bin/ |
| 22:26.19 | RichiH | try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:26.24 | marco13185 | jethro, maybe symbolic links? |
| 22:26.42 | offle | ok, richih. i try it. thank you |
| 22:26.44 | catlee | Basically I'm lazy...I would love to have a setup where I can just insert a new drive into my server, and be able to use most of the capacity right away. Usually the new drive is larger than the older drives, so at some point I would want to remove one of the older, smaller drives to make room for a new large drive. LVM comes close, but it doesn't really offer redundancy, so if a drive goes, I'm toast. Running RAID-5 means |
| 22:26.44 | catlee | that I can't use the full capacity of the large drive. |
| 22:26.46 | marco13185 | I mean jetscreamer |
| 22:26.55 | jetscreamer | nm. y |
| 22:27.16 | JoshTriplett | jetscreamer: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 Apr 29 13:48 X11 -> . |
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| 22:27.47 | jetscreamer | yeah the whole /usr/bin/X11 is a symlink to /usr/bin |
| 22:27.47 | jetscreamer | wtf |
| 22:27.47 | jetscreamer | very windows-y |
| 22:28.14 | zinx | windows doesn't have soft links |
| 22:28.36 | Shadowcat | yes windows does |
| 22:28.39 | Shadowcat | they're called shortcuts |
| 22:28.40 | zinx | no it doesn't. |
| 22:28.45 | zinx | those are nowhere NEAR the same thing |
| 22:28.55 | zinx | shortcuts are files that windows reads and does something with |
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| 22:29.00 | JoshTriplett | Shadowcat: It doesn't have directory links you can traverse. |
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| 22:29.15 | JoshTriplett | Shadowcat: (At least, not until recently, IIRC.) |
| 22:29.17 | Shadowcat | JoshTriplett: not in console mode no |
| 22:29.30 | Shadowcat | shortcut files only work in the gui |
| 22:29.31 | zinx | soft links are a filesystem feature |
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| 22:29.49 | catlee | I think cygwin treats shortcuts as soft links |
| 22:30.08 | jetscreamer | i meant integration into a common pool directory |
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| 22:30.15 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: what do you think? |
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| 22:30.26 | Shadowcat | the problem with windows is that the command line is retarded |
| 22:30.30 | Shadowcat | literally |
| 22:30.34 | Phlexonance | stew, so the bootlog is still bugged in 3.1 sarge? and it cant be logged (except with the log growing enormous) ? |
| 22:30.36 | Shadowcat | if you want anything done you have to use a mouse |
| 22:30.51 | stew | Phlexonance: bugged? did you /msg dpkg bootlog? |
| 22:30.58 | jetscreamer | so how is the command line retarded |
| 22:30.59 | Phlexonance | stew, yes |
| 22:31.02 | jetscreamer | nm off topic |
| 22:31.06 | stew | yes |
| 22:31.06 | freeone3000 | jetscreamer: How is it not? |
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| 22:31.16 | zinosat | Shadowcat, ouch! |
| 22:31.20 | freeone3000 | But anyways. My printer keeps stopping itself. How can I tell why? |
| 22:31.29 | marco13185 | How can I see the total size of my root partition? |
| 22:31.31 | stew | Phlexonance: what do you mean by bugged? |
| 22:31.34 | stew | marco13185: df |
| 22:31.40 | marco13185 | ty |
| 22:31.41 | splattnik | "the problem with winows is" - yoda |
| 22:31.42 | jetscreamer | df -h easier to read |
| 22:31.56 | Phlexonance | stew, bugs.debian.org/213028 |
| 22:31.56 | freeone3000 | man df shall get you the stuff, and you can set your own options. -.- |
| 22:31.58 | huhlig | anyone willing to answer a question relating to openoffice. A feature changed from 1.x.x to 2.x.x and I cant figure out how to do it |
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| 22:32.14 | freeone3000 | Sure. Why not. I'm in it, trying to print something. |
| 22:32.17 | Shadowcat | jetscreamer: you can't do very much with windows cmd |
| 22:32.23 | freeone3000 | But the STUPID PRINTER won't do nada. -.- |
| 22:32.29 | JoshTriplett | huhlig: What feature? |
| 22:32.40 | jetscreamer | point at something, be specific. |
| 22:32.41 | paddy2706 | dondelelcaro: thanks for your help anyway, ill be gone then - if you come up with any idea, please contact me anytime, im frequently on freenode |
| 22:32.43 | Phlexonance | stew, I dont have a /var/log/boot, so my question was wether it is save to activate the /etc/default/bootlogd or not |
| 22:32.45 | jetscreamer | but this is ot |
| 22:32.55 | huhlig | how do you use a calc spreadsheet as a datasource for making labels... used to be real simple to do |
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| 22:33.02 | Shadowcat | jetscreamer: let's start with hmm... oh, it's not a real command line |
| 22:33.07 | stew | Phlexonance: are you booting into single user mode? |
| 22:33.09 | marco13185 | hehe, and how can I tell if my swap drive is being used? |
| 22:33.11 | Shadowcat | and work our way from there |
| 22:33.22 | azeem | marco13185: free |
| 22:33.22 | freeone3000 | jetscreamer: pipes. |
| 22:33.24 | Phlexonance | stew, I guess no |
| 22:33.25 | huhlig | all the documentation I can find on the subject relates to 1.x |
| 22:33.32 | JoshTriplett | marco13185: free, top, etc. |
| 22:33.44 | stew | Phlexonance: then this bug doesn't apply to you |
| 22:33.45 | jetscreamer | you must mean named pipes |
| 22:33.50 | Shadowcat | freeone3000: actually you can pipe in cmd |
| 22:34.05 | stew | Shadowcat: freeone3000 please take this discussion to #windows or #windowsxp or something |
| 22:34.08 | Shadowcat | but lots of gui administration tools simply don't have an analogous cmd command |
| 22:34.12 | Phlexonance | stew, ok thx |
| 22:34.14 | huhlig | JoshTriplett: all I need is the tutorial/howto/reference document and I will be on my way. I just cant find it |
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| 22:34.51 | freeone3000 | How would I be able to tell why my printer isn't able to print something? |
| 22:34.59 | Shadowcat | logs? |
| 22:35.15 | marco13185 | freeone3000, try to print from command line |
| 22:35.23 | marco13185 | or run the app your printing from from the command |
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| 22:36.49 | JoshTriplett | huhlig: Does http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/labels/index.html help? |
| 22:36.55 | freeone3000 | `lp hello.c' apparently works just plain fine. Just it doesn't print. The printer is stopped in the KDE Printer thingy. Whenever I start it, it stops itself. |
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| 22:38.05 | offle | exit |
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| 22:38.29 | JoshTriplett | freeone3000: cups? |
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| 22:39.04 | freeone3000 | JoshTriplett: Yep.. |
| 22:39.24 | JoshTriplett | freeone3000: Checked /var/log/cups/*? |
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| 22:40.38 | tonix | hi guys, is there a way to know where cron puts logs? thanks |
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| 22:40.51 | tonix | ...on debian of course! |
| 22:41.04 | freeone3000 | Apparently... the USB device doesn't exist. |
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| 22:41.31 | freeone3000 | It's firmly plugged in, which means there's a problem with my USB detection, yes? |
| 22:41.43 | JoshTriplett | tonix: Try syslog? |
| 22:42.00 | JoshTriplett | freeone3000: Unplug and replug, and watch dmesg? |
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| 22:43.03 | freeone3000 | Definatly nothing. |
| 22:43.21 | freeone3000 | !echo "That's a problem"|badenglish |
| 22:43.22 | dpkg | "That's a problem"|badenglish |
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| 22:43.53 | RichiH | !say i do not know what you want me to do, freeone3000 |
| 22:43.54 | dpkg | i do not know what you want me to do, freeone3000 |
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| 22:44.11 | freeone3000 | This right is a problem there |
| 22:44.17 | freeone3000 | Go cylon. |
| 22:44.29 | bsdf | dpkg: tell me about kristen bell |
| 22:44.55 | bsdf | dpkg: kristen bell |
| 22:44.55 | dpkg | rumour has it, kristen bell is a fukken qt |
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| 22:45.03 | huhlig | JoshTriplett: do you know how to use a spreadsheet as a Datasource? |
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| 22:48.41 | xface | how do i rename all new*.pl files to their nanems without new in front? |
| 22:48.54 | freeone3000 | xface: I would use a perl script. |
| 22:48.57 | freeone3000 | xface: Ironic, no? |
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| 22:49.14 | xface | i wonder if i can do it with mv |
| 22:49.26 | Kinks | not really. |
| 22:49.28 | freeone3000 | xface: You can. Of course. But I don't think a simple command... |
| 22:49.35 | stew | xface: rename 's/^new//' new*.pl |
| 22:50.00 | Kinks | perl -e"map { $x = $_; s/new//; rename $x, $_; } <./*>" |
| 22:50.05 | Kinks | in the directory with your lovely pl files |
| 22:50.13 | xface | wooow stew ! |
| 22:50.16 | xface | IT WORKED! |
| 22:50.16 | Kinks | well you might want to add a if /\.pl$/ |
| 22:50.27 | freeone3000 | I like stew's. |
| 22:50.29 | freeone3000 | His is shorter. |
| 22:50.35 | Kinks | yes, it is |
| 22:50.56 | _abbenormal | when this does not work apt-get -f install what else can be tried |
| 22:51.09 | Kinks | and cleaner.. and faster. |
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| 22:51.17 | xface | StereoSkit, s = perls substitute operator ? |
| 22:51.17 | freeone3000 | _abbenormal: It doesn't work when you majorly borked up something, or you forgot to update. |
| 22:51.24 | freeone3000 | xface: Yep. Operates on $_. |
| 22:51.35 | StereoSkit | o_O |
| 22:51.41 | _abbenormal | thats what i was doing when i got the first error |
| 22:51.58 | freeone3000 | _abbenormal: Which would be? |
| 22:52.05 | stew | _abbenormal: did you apply the patch in that bug? |
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| 22:52.23 | _abbenormal | yes and installed the made debs |
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| 22:52.45 | freeone3000 | xface: while(<STDIN>) { s/\d/0/gi; print; } |
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| 22:53.10 | _abbenormal | first error freeone3000 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10 |
| 22:53.11 | Kinks | I was starting to think this was #perl for a while. |
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| 22:53.25 | freeone3000 | _abbenormal: On? |
| 22:53.29 | harfooz | hi all. I have an etch installation and when I open a file from a terminal, the focus stays on the terminal, rather than the window with the preferred application. How can I change that. |
| 22:53.43 | stew | _abbenormal: dpkg --configure -a |
| 22:53.56 | harfooz | I would like to be able to emacs a file (for instance) and have the focus go to emacs, rather than stay in the terminal. |
| 22:53.57 | _abbenormal | ok stew ill try |
| 22:54.06 | xface | root@dell:/var/www/cgi-bin# rgrep utf . | count -l |
| 22:54.06 | xface | bash: count: command not found |
| 22:54.06 | stew | harfooz: that depends on your window manager |
| 22:54.23 | stew | xface: are you looking for "wc -l" ? |
| 22:55.05 | harfooz | stew: I don't know how to tell (hate to be ignorant about that, but it's never come up before). Whatever Debian installed by default, I suppose. |
| 22:55.05 | freeone3000 | Can someone magically fix my usb support? No message in dmesg when USB device cord plugged then unplugged. |
| 22:55.05 | xface | a yes! |
| 22:55.11 | xface | thanks again stew :) |
| 22:55.21 | xface | its wordcount yes not count |
| 22:55.25 | _joey | doesn anyone know in which version ipv6 was first implemented ? |
| 22:55.30 | freeone3000 | harfooz: Read: None. |
| 22:55.32 | xface | <freeone3000> xface: while(<STDIN>) { s/\d/0/gi; print; } |
| 22:55.35 | freeone3000 | harfooz: You instaled one. |
| 22:55.37 | xface | this doens execute |
| 22:55.51 | unix_infidel | debian crapped out on me, i've backed up /etc/ and /home/ and i'm wondering what else i should backup before i reinstall? |
| 22:55.56 | freeone3000 | Okay... #!/usr/bin/perl while($_ = <STDIN>) { and so on. |
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| 22:56.03 | Ronin | unix_infidel: crapped out in what way? |
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| 22:56.22 | _abbenormal | ok stew when ya get a minute http://channels.debian.net/paste/2472 |
| 22:56.23 | unix_infidel | Ronin: apt-get upgrade, for some reason debian cant see the root partition anymore. |
| 22:56.29 | stew | xface: what are you trying to accomplish there? |
| 22:56.36 | stew | harfooz: do you perhaps run gnome or kde? |
| 22:56.37 | unix_infidel | so i'm wondering what i should backup before going back to debian stable. |
| 22:56.43 | unix_infidel | Ronin: any ideas |
| 22:56.44 | unix_infidel | ? |
| 22:56.44 | harfooz | gnome |
| 22:56.48 | xface | i dont know freeone3000 said that to me |
| 22:57.02 | freeone3000 | xface: It replaces all characters in standard input with 0s. |
| 22:57.05 | xface | can shell run raw perl commands? |
| 22:57.08 | cureless | unix_infidel, why are you backing up? |
| 22:57.16 | freeone3000 | perl -e "perl commands here" |
| 22:57.18 | unix_infidel | cureless: look above. |
| 22:57.26 | xface | it doesnt work |
| 22:57.28 | stew | xface: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:57.35 | cureless | unix_infidel, all I see is "crapped out" |
| 22:57.36 | harfooz | is there a command that I could run to determine what window manager I'm running? |
| 22:57.38 | xface | a sorry iwas tryign to eun ti as you said it freeone3000 |
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| 22:57.58 | unix_infidel | cureless: any good linux nerd would've backed up but this is a test box and i have very little to loose other than what i backed up in /home/ |
| 22:57.59 | cureless | harfooz, what for, can't you tell by looking? |
| 22:58.00 | freeone3000 | harfooz: Yes. It's your eyes. |
| 22:58.07 | unix_infidel | cureless: i did an apt-get upgrade with testing and it crapped out on me. |
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| 22:58.11 | freeone3000 | harfooz: If it has a "K" everywhere, it's KDE. |
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| 22:58.13 | stew | _abbenormal: what about just "apt-get install xorg" ? |
| 22:58.20 | cureless | unix_infidel, does it boot or did you just lose X? |
| 22:58.24 | freeone3000 | harfooz: If it has a G, it's GNOME. If it has niether, it's one of the boxes. |
| 22:58.32 | _abbenormal | ok trying |
| 22:58.36 | unix_infidel | cureless: it cant even SEE the root partition bro. |
| 22:58.43 | unix_infidel | reinstalling is quicker than troubleshooting. |
| 22:58.44 | xface | stew, i was just correcting my eprl cgi scripts |
| 22:58.58 | harfooz | freeone3000 and cureless: I am running Gnome, but isn't that a desktop environment, compared to a window manager? |
| 22:59.09 | unix_infidel | cureless / Ronin : now i'm just looking for ideas on things i should backup other than /etc/ and /home/ |
| 22:59.10 | harfooz | So in Gnome how do I change focus then? |
| 22:59.12 | cureless | unix_infidel, hmm, that is strange, but you are right that reinstalling is sometimes faster than troubleshooting. |
| 22:59.31 | freeone3000 | harfooz: Meh. The same. |
| 22:59.42 | Ronin | i ususally just do /home/ and to heck with the rest |
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| 22:59.46 | cureless | unix_infidel, if you reinstall just backup /home. You can recreate /etc. The other thing you might want to keep is /var and possibly /usr/local |
| 22:59.53 | freeone3000 | harfooz: The huge, bulky, incomprehensible window managers are called Desktop Environments. |
| 23:00.13 | unix_infidel | cureless: nothing really important in /var/ iirc. |
| 23:00.26 | unix_infidel | and /usr/local just contains mplayer codecs, other than that its default |
| 23:00.38 | cureless | unix_infidel, then you're good to go. The system doesn't need anything, it's your data that you need. |
| 23:00.39 | stew | xface: "while(<STDIN>) { s/\d/0/gi; print; }" ; i think what you are looking for is: perl -p -e 's/\d/0/g' |
| 23:00.39 | unix_infidel | cureless / Ronin : any thing else i'm missing. |
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| 23:00.59 | _abbenormal | here ya go stew http://channels.debian.net/paste/2473 |
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| 23:01.01 | unix_infidel | cureless: yea, i do a full backup of / and /home on my primary workstation (excluding var) |
| 23:01.04 | adrakoa | hi |
| 23:01.13 | xface | thanks stew |
| 23:01.48 | cureless | harfooz, gnome and kde have pretty much default window managers. Unless you did something weird you are using the default. |
| 23:01.49 | c459s | hmm, if I do "ALL: ALL: DENY" in hosts.allow, why can people still connect and view pages served by apache? |
| 23:01.57 | xface | stew why in order to all my erp cgi scritps to run on linux |
| 23:02.12 | xface | i must perl -i -pe 's/\r\n/\n/' *.pl |
| 23:02.23 | xface | (i was creating them in winxp) |
| 23:02.31 | stew | _abbenormal: ... and did you apt-get -f install? (since you ran dpkg --configure -a). did you try apt-get install xserver-xorg? have you checked the Xorg69To7 page? |
| 23:02.36 | unix_infidel | c459s: dude, you need to put ALL:ALL for everyone to see it. |
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| 23:02.45 | unix_infidel | not ALL:ALL:DENY |
| 23:02.50 | harfooz | Is there an option that I could config to allow focus to go immediately to the opened application/file from the terminal, rather than the opened app/file being behind the terminal (and focus stays on the terminal). |
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| 23:03.46 | degantyll | what's the program to see which code belongs to a key?? |
| 23:03.57 | stew | degantyll: xev |
| 23:04.03 | stew | degantyll: or xkeycaps |
| 23:04.24 | xface | stew, ? |
| 23:04.25 | _abbenormal | no go with apt-get -f install and nope not looked at them was thinking is a deb problem |
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| 23:04.46 | degantyll | thanks stew |
| 23:04.56 | stew | xface: yes? |
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| 23:05.10 | loggygreg | _abbenormal: yes, you need xserver-xorg |
| 23:05.25 | SonnyBurnett | The gpg key and ssh key are not the same right? |
| 23:05.36 | Ronin | SonnyBurnett: correct |
| 23:05.37 | _abbenormal | ok same error with xserver-xorg |
| 23:05.57 | _abbenormal | sonny right not the same |
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| 23:06.08 | c459s | unix_infidel: huh? Your answer is weird and doesnt at all answer my question. |
| 23:06.25 | xface | i must perl -i -pe 's/\r\n/\n/' *.pl |
| 23:06.27 | xface | (i was creating them in winxp) |
| 23:06.33 | xface | stew why in order to all my erp cgi scritps to run on linux |
| 23:06.44 | chuby007 | hi friends ! I have a question.. I installed horde3 on a clean debian install... I can't seem to find the url for the default install can someone tell me what is it |
| 23:07.01 | Ronin | chuby007: what does the horde docs tell you? |
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| 23:07.18 | gnufan | harfooz: what you want sounds like normal GNOME behaviour, what app is staying in front, you sure the windows isn't marked to stay in front? |
| 23:07.36 | stew | xface: you are asking me why you must change your newlines from dos to unix style? or what? i don't really understand the question |
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| 23:07.50 | chuby007 | not much... looks like it's sitting there and I have to move it to the apache directory and configure it... but I tought that maybe it got installed byitself :D |
| 23:08.01 | xface | stew, yes |
| 23:08.02 | stew | chuby007: its installed to /usr/share/horde3 |
| 23:08.09 | unix_infidel | c459s: ahh, sorry dude, just comment out everything in hosts.allow and put ALL:ALL in hosts.deny |
| 23:08.11 | harfooz | gnufan, is there an option in the terminal options that I could config? |
| 23:08.12 | xface | otherwise the same scripts wotn work in debian |
| 23:08.16 | chuby007 | ok thxxxxxxx ! |
| 23:08.31 | stew | chuby007: in the future "dpkg -L packagename" will tell you |
| 23:08.58 | cureless | xface, you don't need perl, you can use dos2unix for that. And the reason is that dos/windows and unix use different ways to define the end of line. |
| 23:09.07 | chuby007 | ok ok :D |
| 23:09.12 | stew | xface: iirc the problem is that if you have dos style newlines, it will try looking for an interpreter named /usr/bin/perl\r instead of /usr/bin/perl |
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| 23:09.40 | eric_ | anyone knows a nice software for linux that can manage incremental backups over DVD ? |
| 23:09.54 | c459s | unix_infidel: No, "ALL: ALL: DENY" is a completely valid line and will stop people from using services like sshd, but for some reason people can still connect and see pages served by apache. |
| 23:09.55 | cureless | eric_, like tar ? :-) |
| 23:10.09 | xface | yes win sue \r\n as newline |
| 23:10.12 | _abbenormal | acronis for linux but its a pay software |
| 23:10.14 | xface | while unix only uses \n |
| 23:10.23 | cureless | xface, so what's your question? |
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| 23:10.42 | _abbenormal | eric acronis for linux but its a pay software |
| 23:10.44 | gnufan | harfooz: I'm still trying to understand what is going on. When you open which apps, how, and behind which app is it appearing? |
| 23:11.10 | harfooz | gnufan, let me get a screenshot -- that might be helpful. |
| 23:11.18 | xface | i cant understand the differnce between \r and \n |
| 23:11.18 | zinx | c459s: hosts.* are only used for tcpd |
| 23:11.49 | c459s | zinx: I see. |
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| 23:12.10 | xface | \r = the enter key? |
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| 23:12.23 | cureless | xface, one is carriage return (to beggining of line \r) and the other one is newline (\n) |
| 23:12.43 | cureless | xface, they are related to old terminals and printers, not important. |
| 23:13.32 | degantyll | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.36 | harfooz | gnufan, http://www.penguinsolutions.org/screenshots/Screenshot.png |
| 23:13.44 | stew | degantyll: with xbindkeys |
| 23:14.44 | harfooz | See how the file opens behind the terminal? I want it to open the file and focus gets sent to emacs right away, rather than having to alt+tab to get there (or mouse-click in the window). |
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| 23:14.55 | degantyll | xface: thank you once more =) |
| 23:15.15 | xface | why degantyll ? |
| 23:15.17 | xface | root@dell:/var/www/data/text# iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf-8 * |
| 23:15.33 | xface | i ahve 100 hundered .txt files in wrong encoding |
| 23:15.54 | xface | i must convert them to utf-8 or else linxu wont shwo them properly |
| 23:16.03 | xface | how can i do it in one command ? |
| 23:16.07 | xface | root@dell:/var/www/data/text# iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf-8 * |
| 23:16.07 | degantyll | xface: well you guided me to the right programs =] |
| 23:16.23 | xface | degantyll, iam happy then i could help :p |
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| 23:17.01 | harfooz | two other examples: oowriter's splash screen opens behind the terminal, but the new file will be on the top of the desktop. firefox however, opens behind the terminal, and focus stays on the terminal. |
| 23:17.14 | degantyll | =] |
| 23:17.21 | loggygreg | harfooz: search focus setting or something like that in gnome-control-center |
| 23:17.23 | stew | xface: for f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf-8 $f ; done |
| 23:17.53 | xface | doesnt it need an output file stew? |
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| 23:18.28 | stew | xface: yes it does, so for f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf-8 $f.utf8 ; done ; or something |
| 23:18.39 | stew | xface: but i'm not sure why you think you need to convert these in the first place |
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| 23:18.57 | stew | xface: linux should have no problem with the current encoding |
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| 23:19.31 | xface | look what is ee when ic at a greek filename file |
| 23:19.40 | xface | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.40 | xface | �� ���������� �� ������� ���� ������. ��� |
| 23:19.54 | xface | i made it form windows |
| 23:20.00 | stew | xface: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 23:20.24 | xface | and i cpied all these txts from ntfs partiton to ext3 |
| 23:20.28 | xface | now ican tview the files |
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| 23:20.35 | loggygreg | harfooz: and/or window placement setting |
| 23:20.36 | xface | because the use greek encoding |
| 23:20.52 | xface | and linux try to show it to me in utf-8? |
| 23:21.57 | xface | so i dotn need to sue iconv? |
| 23:22.30 | harfooz | found something about it: http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10720 |
| 23:23.04 | xface | stew, ? |
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| 23:23.22 | gnufan | harfooz: not seeing the OO splash screen sounds like a blessing, firefox and oo both open in front of the terminal I start them in. Did this change recently for you? |
| 23:23.32 | harfooz | gnufan, yes |
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| 23:23.38 | harfooz | just within the last couple of days. |
| 23:23.44 | gnufan | harfooz: Xorg 7? |
| 23:24.01 | stew | xface: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 23:24.13 | xface | yes but why? |
| 23:24.20 | xface | my locales are in utf-8 |
| 23:24.25 | xface | do i need to? |
| 23:24.59 | stew | xface: do you wish to display the files as is, or convert them? |
| 23:25.04 | harfooz | gnufan, 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 |
| 23:25.31 | xface | files are in greek |
| 23:25.38 | xface | but linux dispaly them as question marks |
| 23:25.38 | stew | i gathered |
| 23:25.39 | harfooz | gnufan: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326159 |
| 23:25.48 | xface | the contents of the files i mean not filenames |
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| 23:26.58 | erwer_ | I upgrade to gnome 2.14 and now the alt+left or alt+right doesn't work in firefox, any ideas? |
| 23:27.03 | xface | i must convert all txtx from iso-8859-7 to utf-8 |
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| 23:29.02 | xface | root@dell:/var/www/data/text# for f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 $f -o new$f ; done |
| 23:29.07 | xface | why thsi wont work? |
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| 23:29.30 | stew | xface: what makes you say it won't work? |
| 23:29.32 | el_alexluna | hi all! |
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| 23:29.46 | dvs | hi everybody! |
| 23:29.47 | xface | iconv: cannot open input file `Γέρων': No such file or directory |
| 23:29.47 | xface | iconv: cannot open input file `Παΐσίου.txt': No such file or directory |
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| 23:30.12 | el_alexluna | what means this? |
| 23:30.12 | el_alexluna | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.17 | el_alexluna | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:30.36 | stew | xface: what about calling it like this: iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 -o new$f $f ? |
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| 23:31.40 | xface | ill try ti StereoSkit |
| 23:31.47 | xface | ill try ti Stew |
| 23:31.57 | xface | stew |
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| 23:32.16 | xface | can i makre the reencodign and save ti the name they alredy ahve? |
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| 23:32.24 | c459s | can anyone recommend a good IRC bouncer for sarge? |
| 23:32.45 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 23:33.00 | grendal_prime | ive been beating my head against a wall on this on and off all day. |
| 23:33.11 | grendal_prime | jabber, i cant connect to it from anywhere but the localhost. |
| 23:33.45 | grendal_prime | is there a network acl somewhere. the xml file i have for configureing says if nothing is specified all ip addresses are allowed. |
| 23:33.49 | xface | stew? |
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| 23:34.08 | xface | is there a way to save them in themselves? |
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| 23:34.17 | stew | xface: no |
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| 23:34.54 | xface | why not like iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 -o $f ? |
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| 23:35.06 | marco13185 | I pressed cancel on my printer |
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| 23:35.16 | marco13185 | how do I cancel the job in cups? |
| 23:35.53 | xface | stew plz help me on this |
| 23:35.57 | xface | and iam off to my bed :) |
| 23:36.13 | el_alexluna | what means this? |
| 23:36.14 | el_alexluna | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:36.21 | el_alexluna | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:37.10 | xface | damn it gets on my nervers |
| 23:37.16 | nix4me | anyone know how to get sound with flash in Firefox? Im using etch and i have alsa sound but flash has no sound at all |
| 23:37.17 | xface | i tries it 10 times |
| 23:38.25 | xface | for f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 $f -o $f ; done |
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| 23:38.31 | marco13185 | nix4me, flash and linux don't get along :\ |
| 23:38.33 | xface | this seems correct but aitn woriking |
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| 23:39.32 | stew | xface: you can't write to the file you are reading from |
| 23:39.36 | nix4me | well im sure there is a solution, just cant find it. there is alot of chatter on google but there seems to be numerous different scenarios |
| 23:39.44 | xface | for f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 $f -o new$f ; done |
| 23:39.47 | xface | will thsi work? |
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| 23:40.10 | stew | xface: i believe so. |
| 23:40.32 | xface | no it doesnt |
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| 23:40.33 | xface | newnewnewnewnewtips newnewΠού |
| 23:40.34 | xface | newnewnewnewnewΑγιος newnewΠρόσεχε |
| 23:40.34 | xface | newnewnewnewnewΓέρων newnewΣχέση |
| 23:40.34 | xface | newnewnewnewnewΈνα newnewΤα |
| 23:40.34 | xface | newnewnewnewnewΕφραίμ newnewΤο |
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| 23:40.38 | magyar | ahoy |
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| 23:40.47 | xface | did you see |
| 23:40.51 | xface | it splitted my files to words |
| 23:41.01 | Kevin | ola tudo bem |
| 23:41.07 | Kevin | alguma gata |
| 23:41.13 | xface | and please help em on this |
| 23:41.29 | magyar | !hi |
| 23:41.29 | dpkg | hello, magyar |
| 23:41.44 | Kevin | tem brasileiros no chat |
| 23:41.55 | js_ | !debian-br |
| 23:41.55 | dpkg | debian-br is, like, The Brazilian Debian Translation Project visit at: http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br or #debian-br |
| 23:42.02 | js_ | uh |
| 23:42.15 | js_ | Kevin: #debian-br |
| 23:42.48 | xface | stew |
| 23:42.55 | magyar | porfavor |
| 23:42.56 | magyar | :) |
| 23:43.00 | xface | you are exprienced in shells cripting |
| 23:43.49 | magyar | #bash |
| 23:44.03 | magyar | silvuple |
| 23:44.56 | abrotman | wtf |
| 23:45.01 | abrotman | that's not even a language |
| 23:45.15 | dvs | !confuse abrotman |
| 23:45.16 | dpkg | Yes, how was my snake tomorrow, abrotman? shirts of the monarchy of liechtenstein with extra anchovies |
| 23:45.18 | magyar | !french |
| 23:45.19 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 23:45.38 | abrotman | dvs: that's nto french |
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| 23:45.54 | dvs | I didn't say it was |
| 23:46.09 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: You suck! |
| 23:46.09 | abrotman | magyar seems to think it is |
| 23:46.16 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: we know this .. i haven't been to OR |
| 23:46.18 | magyar | !suck |
| 23:46.18 | dpkg | suck is probably an NNTP client for pulling articles from a remote news server and feeding them to your local news server |
| 23:46.26 | xface | stew do you know ? |
| 23:46.30 | abrotman | !tell magyar about msg the bot |
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| 23:46.43 | abrotman | isn't it ironic |
| 23:46.44 | Suki` | crack 'n cookies |
| 23:47.06 | degantyll | xface: hohoho I RTFM and got all those "useless" windows multimedia buttons working, thanks again |
| 23:47.24 | abrotman | thank goodness we're nicer to people now |
| 23:47.37 | xface | degantyll, can you help me? |
| 23:47.44 | abrotman | antgel: thank you |
| 23:47.58 | degantyll | degantyll: I'll try, what's going on? |
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| 23:48.34 | xface | i want to change encoding all my txt files |
| 23:48.43 | xface | from greek to utf |
| 23:48.48 | xface | bu not 1 by 1 |
| 23:48.57 | xface | because theey are 37 files |
| 23:49.01 | degantyll | like translation? |
| 23:49.03 | xface | how can i doi it? |
| 23:49.08 | xface | reencoding |
| 23:49.27 | abrotman | !enter |
| 23:49.28 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 23:49.35 | degantyll | letme see what I can dig out |
| 23:49.39 | xface | thanks |
| 23:49.42 | xface | iam trying |
| 23:49.52 | dvs | xface: you're not doing well so far |
| 23:49.54 | xface | root@dell:/var/www/data/text# for f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 $f -o klo/$f ; done |
| 23:50.22 | xface | but it somehwo brake my filenames |
| 23:50.23 | abrotman | especially doing all that as root .. |
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| 23:50.29 | abrotman | who keeps web files as root ? |
| 23:50.36 | chuby007 | is apache2 way better than apache 1.3 ? |
| 23:50.40 | xface | i do :) |
| 23:50.49 | abrotman | dumb |
| 23:50.53 | chuby007 | or it's just ... like a testing thing ? |
| 23:50.56 | abrotman | chuby007: depends on your needs |
| 23:51.05 | cureless | chuby007, it's better for some things like scalability. |
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| 23:51.20 | chuby007 | abrotman just need to run some php scripts nothing out of the ordinary |
| 23:51.23 | magyar | anyone has a server with two wan connections? |
| 23:51.27 | cureless | xface, do your names have spaces in them? |
| 23:51.46 | degantyll | wait |
| 23:51.50 | abrotman | chuby007: so what does it really matter? :) |
| 23:51.57 | degantyll | those are web pages? |
| 23:52.18 | xface | cureless, yes they do |
| 23:52.28 | chuby007 | abrotman... just that apache1.3 is giving me hell... it does not want to run php4... so I said maybe apache2... |
| 23:52.32 | cureless | xface, then the for look might not work |
| 23:52.38 | xface | cureless, that cause the problems |
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| 23:52.40 | chuby007 | something is misconfigured on apache 1.3 |
| 23:52.42 | ariel | hi guys, does anyone know how can i rec to an avi or any video file my current X session ?. thanks |
| 23:52.43 | xface | it doesnt |
| 23:52.52 | abrotman | ew ... files with spaces .. what idiot has filenames with spaces owned by root publically accessible via HTTP ? |
| 23:53.11 | abrotman | chuby007: is libapache-mod-php4 installed? |
| 23:53.26 | cureless | xface, you need something to treat the files with spaces as 1 filename. Here, have a read http://www.igso.net/nkb/Unix_Tips |
| 23:53.38 | chuby007 | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 23:53.38 | chuby007 | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 23:53.38 | chuby007 | libapache-mod-php4 is already the newest version. |
| 23:53.40 | keherman | how do i grep for tabs?> |
| 23:53.41 | chuby007 | yup it is |
| 23:53.58 | xface | cureless, yes but please iof you knwo it please tell em |
| 23:54.05 | xface | iam exhuested and i want to go to bed |
| 23:54.09 | xface | its 3:00 here |
| 23:54.14 | chuby007 | debian has never given me a problem like that... it's weird |
| 23:54.18 | xface | thats am |
| 23:54.24 | cureless | xface, read the page! it's there. |
| 23:54.34 | cliffd | anyone have any tips on getting Pentium M CPU scaling to work? |
| 23:54.47 | abrotman | chuby007: and is the php4 module being loaded in your apache.conf ? |
| 23:54.52 | abrotman | or httpd.conf .. whatever it is |
| 23:55.01 | abrotman | chuby007: don't forget to clear your cache/restart your browser |
| 23:55.12 | chuby007 | yes... it is actually it's loaded in modules.conf |
| 23:55.23 | chuby007 | yup /etc/init.d apache restart |
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| 23:56.16 | magyar | does anyone here knows if debian etch is capable of multi-wan? |
| 23:56.28 | cureless | magyar, what is "multi-wan"? |
| 23:56.47 | magyar | two wan interfaces |
| 23:56.50 | chuby007 | ok apache 2 is running |
| 23:57.01 | magyar | or more |
| 23:57.01 | xface | cureless, i read it |
| 23:57.04 | xface | but cant do it |
| 23:57.08 | abrotman | magyar: ip aliasing |
| 23:57.11 | cureless | magyar, by wan you mean dsl? |
| 23:57.13 | chuby007 | kesus i have to edit that... |
| 23:57.19 | abrotman | and i bet that is dependent on the card |
| 23:57.24 | chuby007 | it created like a zillion instances of itself |
| 23:57.45 | cureless | xface, what can't you do? ls *files* | while read i; do whatever code you were doing before with $i; done |
| 23:57.47 | magyar | cureless: sure, or DS1/DS3, or cable |
| 23:58.02 | xface | i dotn think it will work |
| 23:58.27 | cureless | magyar, but I still don't get what your problem is? Do you want linux to route differently? to treat them as one? |
| 23:58.36 | stew | xface: what cureless says will work if you have spaces in your filenames |
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| 23:58.46 | xface | ill try |
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| 23:59.18 | stew | xface: except use "$f" where you had $f before |
| 23:59.25 | xface | ls *.txt | while read f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 $f -o $f ; done |
| 23:59.27 | xface | tis? |
| 23:59.34 | cureless | xface, you said you had problem with spaces, I gave you the solution. Why do you say "I don't think it will work"? What won't the spaces? or the iconv? |
| 23:59.39 | xface | ls *.txt | while read f in * ; do iconv -f iso-8859-7 -t utf8 "$f" -o "$f" ; done |
| 23:59.45 | magyar | cureless: i dont think its possible to bind them, but i would like to be able to bring one iface down and still access through the other. Right now i have atwo wan ip's to my etch system, but i can only access one from the net |
| 23:59.52 | _Atomo64_ | Hi, just a simple question... is there any script executed when apt-get --purge remove packagename is used? because I just see about prerm and postrm; but then how does it knows where the config files are located? |
| 23:59.58 | cureless | xface, NO. ls *.txt | while read f; do.... |
