| 00:00.28 | beetlepun_ | Shadowcat, you have a point :) |
| 00:00.47 | spanglesontoast | should I reboot after this |
| 00:00.51 | spanglesontoast | has installed? |
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| 00:01.26 | mishael | after upgrading you do nothing, this isn't windows ;) |
| 00:01.52 | spanglesontoast | doesn't it install a new kernel though? |
| 00:02.14 | js_ | spanglesontoast: if there is a new kernel, you reboot |
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| 00:02.34 | pab | just make sure you have grub |
| 00:02.59 | beetlepun_ | spanglesontoast, just doublecheck grub/lilo's menu (if lilo update it) and make sure if there's symlinks in / that they point to the proper /boot/vmlinuz files.. |
| 00:03.00 | fourat | anybody got problems getting dovecot with apt ? |
| 00:03.02 | mishael | no lilo is best ;) |
| 00:03.29 | spanglesontoast | damn I'm hoping this won't break |
| 00:03.31 | Socrates|Iraq | well if I download I get bitched at and there's too many people around |
| 00:03.35 | spanglesontoast | i'd hate to plug in a monitor |
| 00:03.35 | pab | k....but grub installed first ;) |
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| 00:03.43 | Socrates|Iraq | there's specific times we're allowed to download during but we get yelled at anyway |
| 00:04.02 | Socrates|Iraq | if they knew I was downloading an ISO...... |
| 00:04.02 | Socrates|Iraq | anyay |
| 00:04.09 | beetlepun_ | Socrates|Iraq, the link I gave you is 30Mb, tell 'em you're collecting porn for the captain |
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| 00:04.20 | Socrates|Iraq | on a random note aout grub and lilo, I never used grub before |
| 00:04.22 | beetlepun_ | hihi |
| 00:04.43 | Socrates|Iraq | beetlepun_, fuck it man, I'm just going to spend like a week trying to download the fucking full CD |
| 00:05.15 | beetlepun_ | Socrates|Iraq, well shoot headquarters! tell 'em to go open-source the bunch of wastin' 'clickheads'! |
| 00:05.17 | Socrates|Iraq | if I remember right it was CD four that was the only one I needed to install the system |
| 00:05.35 | Socrates|Iraq | beetlepun_, we do have ONE computer in the battalion that uses linux.......... |
| 00:05.40 | Socrates|Iraq | and I mean military computer |
| 00:05.45 | Socrates|Iraq | guess what it runs.... |
| 00:05.47 | mishael | tell them it will help catch bin ladin!!! |
| 00:05.59 | Socrates|Iraq | Red Hat 9 |
| 00:06.08 | Socrates|Iraq | oh yeah, we're up to date on technology |
| 00:06.15 | beetlepun_ | Socrates|Iraq, y, tell them to upgrade eniac to more than a stikin 12-bit processor! |
| 00:06.36 | Socrates|Iraq | or to upgrade to Debian |
| 00:06.38 | Socrates|Iraq | :P |
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| 00:07.10 | beetlepun_ | Socrates|Iraq, but you'd be an idiot if you don't show 'em all the s**t you can do with open-source of course, so go ahead for the cd right now! |
| 00:07.25 | Shadowcat | seriously |
| 00:07.26 | Shadowcat | umm |
| 00:07.34 | Shadowcat | Socrates|Iraq how about getting off your ass and actually doing something |
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| 00:07.59 | Shadowcat | Rumsfeldt gets more done in one hour than you do |
| 00:08.08 | Socrates|Iraq | Shadowcat, so I don't download tons of shit, which is the CD I need? |
| 00:08.12 | Shadowcat | and he's just about the most inefficient person on the planet |
| 00:08.15 | beetlepun_ | Shadowcat, he has restricted netaccess in his base.. i think we all need to encourage him to break the download-limitting rule imposed on his ass.. |
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| 00:08.34 | Shadowcat | beetlepun_: to be honest, I really don't care |
| 00:08.42 | Shadowcat | he's been here an hour |
| 00:08.45 | Shadowcat | that means he's wasting time |
| 00:08.50 | beetlepun_ | Shadowcat,relax he's a newb.. he knows crap.. |
| 00:08.55 | Socrates|Iraq | this hardl uses bandwidth |
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| 00:09.04 | Shadowcat | we solve even the most complicated problems in 15 min or less in here |
| 00:09.07 | Ra-BB | can someone direct me to some resources on fixing a damaged ext3 partition? what happend was i had two drives on a raid0 array, the second one failed. so i got the first half of the filesystem.. e2fsck warns that the filesystem's superblock says it's so big, but the device is smaller, then warns about a bunch of broken blocks.. |
| 00:09.09 | Socrates|Iraq | I got yelled at when I logged into yahoo and MSN simultaneously |
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| 00:09.19 | Socrates|Iraq | you don't want me hanging out here? |
| 00:09.23 | Shadowcat | Socrates|Iraq: again, that's NOT our problem |
| 00:10.18 | spanglesontoast | damn apache2 broke :| |
| 00:10.49 | mishael | do you need it 1.3 has more modules |
| 00:11.09 | Shadowcat | apache2 is generally more secure |
| 00:11.46 | spanglesontoast | ;) |
| 00:11.47 | beetlepun_ | spanglesontoast, i know it broked for me too, the dam m**, what version you trying? |
| 00:12.07 | spanglesontoast | erm well beetle I'm not sure I'm upgrading to etch |
| 00:13.36 | marco13185 | can anyone reccomend a good IDE? |
| 00:13.52 | beetlepun_ | marco13185, yes, #!/bin/sh |
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| 00:14.13 | abrotman | marco13185: for WHAT? |
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| 00:14.24 | beetlepun_ | marco13185, actually eclipse works pretty well but don't know about your java compatibility setup.. |
| 00:14.31 | macsim | marco13185: jedit |
| 00:14.38 | abrotman | did he even say java? |
| 00:15.03 | macsim | abrotman: jedit is not for java only |
| 00:15.12 | mishael | someone say vim |
| 00:15.17 | abrotman | macsim: i'm aware of that |
| 00:15.24 | nile | vim! |
| 00:15.25 | abrotman | mishael: vim is a decent ide |
| 00:15.32 | abrotman | marco13185: for what language |
| 00:15.49 | dotCOMmie | vim is considered an IDE? |
| 00:15.51 | abrotman | macsim: but jedit (last i checked) is not in debian .. and this may be important to him |
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| 00:16.01 | abrotman | dotCOMmie: i think emacs has its own kernel! |
| 00:16.11 | marco13185 | abrotman, for C |
| 00:16.23 | dotCOMmie | abrotman: that i'd believe its hella big |
| 00:16.28 | abrotman | marco13185: Anjuta is in Debian .. and is pretty nice |
| 00:16.30 | abrotman | !bloat |
| 00:16.30 | dpkg | "GCC is the only one [GNU Software] that I really care about. A number of them I hate with a passion; the Emacs editor is horrible, for example. While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it needs to be." -- Linus Torvalds (father of Linux), or see <emacs> or <emacs disease> |
| 00:16.48 | abrotman | !info anjuta sarge |
| 00:16.51 | dpkg | anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-9 (sarge), Packaged size: 875 kB, Installed size: 2032 kB |
| 00:17.02 | abrotman | i'm not sure if KDE has an equivalent |
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| 00:17.15 | Ra-BB | can anyone help me with trying to recover what's left of a damaged ext3 filesystem? |
| 00:17.16 | marco13185 | abrotman, ya, kdevelop, but I like gtk |
| 00:17.26 | abrotman | marco13185: so try anjuta |
| 00:17.33 | marco13185 | de anjuta have an interface designer? |
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| 00:17.44 | abrotman | marco13185: you want glade or .. gazpaucho |
| 00:17.45 | abrotman | !glade |
| 00:17.46 | dpkg | [glade] the Gtk+ GUI builder at http://glade.pn.org, or the company that does annoying "Glade plug-ins" commericals, or see <gazpacho> |
| 00:17.50 | abrotman | !gazpacho |
| 00:17.50 | dpkg | methinks gazpacho is A fresh new GUI builder for the GTK+ toolkit designed to be ultra easy to use: http://gazpacho.sicem.biz/ or see <glade> |
| 00:18.08 | mishael | Ra-BB: try google |
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| 00:19.00 | gina6 | tag |
| 00:19.03 | Socrates|Iraq | alright guys well I appreciate the help but I have to piss so I need to get someone to watch the radio for me |
| 00:19.04 | Socrates|Iraq | so, I'll see you later |
| 00:19.11 | abrotman | eh? |
| 00:19.23 | abrotman | you mean .. listen to the radio ? |
| 00:19.38 | Ra-BB | mishael: i've been trying google. All i find is people selling recovery software, and people trying to recover deleted files. that's not what i need.. i just need to know some ideas on what i could try.. i tried to resize it with ext2resize but it quits with a seek error before doing anything.. |
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| 00:20.26 | beetlepun_ | Ra-BB, um weren't you RaBB before? |
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| 00:20.42 | dotCOMmie | anyone have luck compiling nvidia-kernel-source from testing? |
| 00:21.17 | soopa_k | are there any voip-related channels on this server? |
| 00:21.33 | beetlepun_ | soopa_k, #asterisk |
| 00:21.33 | dotCOMmie | #asterix perhaps? |
| 00:21.43 | dotCOMmie | asterisk* |
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| 00:21.47 | Ra-BB | beetlepun_: um, i don't think so. but i could be RaBB again if you can help me ;) |
| 00:22.03 | beetlepun_ | soopa_k, major geeks hang around there-- you probably won't know a clue some of them are saying :) |
| 00:22.09 | abrotman | i think there's a debian-voip mailing list |
| 00:22.24 | chealer9 | dotCOMmie: nvidia-kernel-source is not in testing anymore |
| 00:22.25 | beetlepun_ | Ra-BB, well I think I did you ignorant wigworm, testdisk! |
| 00:22.41 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: the legacy one |
| 00:23.06 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: I meant nvidia-kernel-legacy-source |
| 00:23.19 | dotCOMmie | it wouldnt compile for me ): |
| 00:23.25 | chealer9 | dotCOMmie: OK. well, in any case, your question is too vague |
| 00:23.34 | gina6 | Videocard nVidia NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] X.Org 7.0.0 [ 1280x1024 @75hz ]GLX Version 1.5.5 NVIDIA 81.78 |
| 00:23.48 | gina6 | this runs well |
| 00:23.50 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: let me throw error on pastebin |
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| 00:24.11 | visik7 | hi |
| 00:24.22 | gina6 | and for normal ... ganz toll |
| 00:24.26 | visik7 | I've 2 network interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces both dhcp |
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| 00:24.34 | visik7 | how can I set priority ? |
| 00:24.34 | Ra-BB | beetlepun_: oh ok, i'll check into it.. |
| 00:25.00 | Azar | ok I have a question, I got my /secure-testing sources yet, all upgrades will only come from mirror.org ? why? |
| 00:25.24 | abrotman | because there are no security updates? |
| 00:25.37 | nkuttler | visik7: what do you mean by priority? |
| 00:25.39 | abrotman | grr .. where's maulkin! |
| 00:25.41 | Azar | abrotman: yet I got my mail full from mr Schulze |
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| 00:26.04 | visik7 | nkuttler: for example |
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| 00:26.11 | visik7 | nkuttler: there are eth0 and eth1 |
| 00:26.23 | Azar | for example I never get firefox security updates via aptitude |
| 00:26.27 | visik7 | nkuttler: I want that some external program call ifup eth1 eth0 go down |
| 00:26.44 | Azar | ok firefox is not debian |
| 00:26.46 | visik7 | sorry maybe isn't clear |
| 00:26.56 | visik7 | nkuttler: I want that some external program run "ifup eth1" eth0 go down |
| 00:27.06 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: while compiling nvidia-kernel-legacy-source (using make-kpkg 2.6.16.13) I get these errors: http://debian.pastebin.com/697235 |
| 00:27.28 | nkuttler | visik7: man interfaces, post-down iirc |
| 00:27.37 | visik7 | yes I know post-down |
| 00:27.50 | mishael | ifdown |
| 00:27.51 | Azar | I am just out of the loop with these supposed security updates, I have the feeling I get none, but since the box runs, I guess I should not even worry |
| 00:28.09 | visik7 | now I use |
| 00:28.13 | visik7 | post-up grep -q ^eth0 /etc/network/run/ifstate && ifdown eth0 |
| 00:28.17 | visik7 | but it sucks |
| 00:28.29 | visik7 | is it the only way to do this ? |
| 00:28.33 | visik7 | is there |
| 00:28.43 | visik7 | another way ? |
| 00:28.44 | SerajewelKS | which would be cheaper in terms of bandwidth, rough estimate: running a web browser on a remote computer, viewing with VNC, or starting an X server locally and having the remote firefox run on it? |
| 00:28.57 | visik7 | sorry for the \n :) |
| 00:28.58 | mishael | if you run testing you are pretty up to date |
| 00:29.03 | nkuttler | visik7: :-/ |
| 00:29.19 | nkuttler | visik7: fix the 'external program' |
| 00:29.50 | visik7 | is ifplugd |
| 00:29.53 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I guess links is the cheapest, fastest |
| 00:29.54 | dotCOMmie | SerajewelKS: just use one of the text based browsers d: |
| 00:29.55 | visik7 | fix for what ? |
| 00:30.01 | mishael | the local x server i would think |
| 00:30.06 | marco13185 | is there an all in one gtk IDE like kdevelop. Because anjuta is only C and c++ |
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| 00:30.56 | SerajewelKS | Azar: of course, but that wasn't one of the options i gave |
| 00:30.59 | abrotman | marco13185: i told you .. you can use glade and gazpacho to do the interface |
| 00:31.00 | nkuttler | visik7: are you sure iflpugd can't bring devices down? |
| 00:31.01 | chealer9 | dotCOMmie: no idea. do you have a good reason to use Linux 2.6.16 on Etch? |
| 00:31.13 | Azar | SerajewelKS: if you run top you will see which one is more hungry |
| 00:31.24 | visik7 | nkuttler: ok I clarify the situation |
| 00:31.24 | marco13185 | abrotman, ya, but I like Kdevelop, because even though I know C, I want to explore other languages like PHP and python |
| 00:31.25 | abrotman | i'm hungry |
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| 00:31.35 | SerajewelKS | Azar: top does interface bandwidth? |
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| 00:31.38 | abrotman | marco13185: anjuta can do python and php ... |
| 00:31.45 | Cristiano | oi |
| 00:31.50 | johnsu01 | marco13185: emacs-snapshot-gtk ;) |
| 00:31.53 | abrotman | bah .. i still have a broken anjuta |
| 00:31.54 | Azar | SerajewelKS: no but you rough estimate looking at ram allocation for given process |
| 00:31.54 | Cristiano | yellow !!! |
| 00:32.03 | abrotman | !ubuntu |
| 00:32.03 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 00:32.08 | Cristiano | fuck fuck !!! |
| 00:32.13 | SerajewelKS | Azar: how's that |
| 00:32.17 | abrotman | Cristiano: do you have a debian question ? |
| 00:32.29 | Cristiano | test |
| 00:32.29 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: not especially I was just recompiling might as well upgrade 2.6.16 from 2.6.14 |
| 00:32.31 | Cristiano | que estranho |
| 00:32.34 | abrotman | !pt |
| 00:32.35 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:32.44 | Cristiano | nossa |
| 00:32.45 | visik7 | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/697245 |
| 00:32.47 | Cristiano | sou novate rsrs |
| 00:32.49 | visik7 | nkuttler: here the config |
| 00:32.53 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: wouldn't !troll be more appropriate? !ops perhaps? |
| 00:32.59 | abrotman | Cristiano: go to #ubuntu-br please |
| 00:33.09 | Cristiano | teste |
| 00:33.19 | SerajewelKS | !ops Cristiano troll |
| 00:33.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Cristiano troll |
| 00:33.19 | visik7 | nkuttler: ath0 is bringed up by hotplug while eth0 is bringed up by ifplugd |
| 00:33.20 | Cristiano | alguem fala a minha lingua ae ?? !! |
| 00:33.32 | Azar | Cristiano: eso no es un canal de teste por favor use #flood por teste |
| 00:33.34 | chealer9 | dotCOMmie: well, you could have recompiled from 2.6.15 |
| 00:33.47 | visik7 | nkuttler: now I'haven't tested well but should works |
| 00:33.50 | Azar | !br |
| 00:33.50 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:34.03 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 00:34.05 | visik7 | nkuttler: btw is not the cleaner way to do this (I guess) |
| 00:34.14 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: you mean using debian provided sources? |
| 00:34.27 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: can you put the ban on the ubuntu user that redirects to #ubuntu back in place? |
| 00:34.28 | Cristiano | eu estou aprendendo usar isso aki |
| 00:34.38 | chealer9 | dotCOMmie: why not? |
| 00:34.47 | mentor | Cristiano: Do you speak English? |
| 00:34.51 | Azar | ok the guy wants to sit and do his stuff here, mentor |
| 00:34.57 | Ra-BB | beetlepun_: testdisk didnt' help. it won't do anything except recover lost partition tables.. i havn't lost my partition table, i've lost half the partition.. i just want to recover what's left in my filesystem. ext2fsck seems to be fixing it, however it is making me manually hit Y for every missing block! |
| 00:35.05 | SerajewelKS | !beer mentor |
| 00:35.14 | Cristiano | no |
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| 00:35.20 | mentor | heh |
| 00:35.24 | limpio | Cristiano: escreve: /join #debian-br y aperta a tecla Enter |
| 00:35.24 | abrotman | agney: can you help ? |
| 00:35.25 | Cristiano | my linguage the bad |
| 00:35.29 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: I dunno I'd imagine patching debian kernels with drivers and such would be less than convenient |
| 00:35.36 | Velte | After install and abort, how to restart base-config again??? |
| 00:35.42 | dotCOMmie | I could be wrong |
| 00:35.48 | agney | abrotman, what' s up ? |
| 00:35.50 | SerajewelKS | Cristiano: you seem to know "fuck" at least... that's a good way to start a conversation |
| 00:35.51 | EdLin | Cristiano: your channel the wrong |
| 00:35.57 | mentor | Cristiano: We don't really speak Brazillian either |
| 00:36.02 | Cristiano | desculpas... |
| 00:36.07 | abrotman | agney: can you help redirect Cristiano to #ubuntu-br or somewhere more appropriate? |
| 00:36.08 | mentor | SerajewelKS, EdLin: oi. |
| 00:36.14 | visik7 | nkuttler: are u still there? |
| 00:36.21 | EdLin | !u |
| 00:36.21 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:36.27 | agney | Cristiano, por favor nao fale portugues aqui |
| 00:36.33 | visik7 | sorry |
| 00:36.39 | EdLin | visik7: NP |
| 00:36.43 | Cristiano | blz |
| 00:36.45 | agney | Cristiano, digite: /join #debian-br ou /join #ubuntu-br |
| 00:36.47 | SerajewelKS | mentor: was the third thing he said... |
| 00:36.51 | EdLin | oops, my caps lock went on |
| 00:36.56 | agney | abrotman, of course man. how do you know that I from brazil ? |
| 00:37.04 | abrotman | agney: you helped me before :) |
| 00:37.06 | chealer9 | dotCOMmie: well, whether or not you patch on Debian's patches is your choices, but that doesn't keep you from getting the sources from Debian |
| 00:37.09 | agney | abrotman, :) |
| 00:37.11 | abrotman | agney: and i saw you join about 10 minutes ago |
| 00:37.18 | agney | abrotman, you have a very good memory :) |
| 00:37.20 | Cristiano | ja digitei |
| 00:37.27 | abrotman | agney: it's disgusting the things i remember :) |
| 00:37.36 | agney | Cristiano, agora: /part #debian |
| 00:37.42 | agney | Cristiano, :) |
| 00:37.46 | agney | abrotman, :) |
| 00:37.48 | abrotman | he is digital? |
| 00:38.03 | Cristiano | ja digitei |
| 00:38.06 | Cristiano | abriu outra tela |
| 00:38.20 | mentor | Cristiano: I'm going to +q you, if you don't stop. |
| 00:38.27 | mentor | What did he say? |
| 00:38.41 | Cristiano | thank you |
| 00:38.41 | abrotman | you'll have to ask agney |
| 00:38.44 | agney | Cristiano, por favor digite: /leave #debian |
| 00:38.45 | dotCOMmie | chealer9: I guess on my desktop I can give it a go, thanks for info |
| 00:38.45 | mentor | I was mostly |
| 00:38.50 | abrotman | oh |
| 00:39.02 | Velte | After install and abort, how to restart base-config again??? |
| 00:39.08 | abrotman | run `base-config` ? |
| 00:39.09 | mentor | !ep |
| 00:39.09 | dpkg | Stop!!! Using!!!! So!!!!! Much!!!!! Punctuation!!!!!!!!!!! It's ..... Irritating ..... As ..... All .... Hell!!!!!!!!!!! OK???" |
| 00:39.19 | Velte | the command doesn't exist! |
| 00:39.24 | mentor | Velte: dpkg -L shows the files in a package too. |
| 00:39.24 | Cristiano | go go go go |
| 00:39.27 | Cristiano | rsssr |
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| 00:39.32 | gina6 | !help |
| 00:39.36 | SerajewelKS | !ep =~ s/"// |
| 00:39.39 | agney | abrotman, digitar = type :) |
| 00:39.40 | dpkg | SerajewelKS: that doesn't contain '"' |
| 00:39.42 | Cristiano | somebody like korn ? rsrsr |
| 00:39.46 | SerajewelKS | -_- |
| 00:39.52 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@201-26-78-182.dsl.telesp.net.br] by mentor |
| 00:40.02 | nkuttler | Velte: /usr/sbin/base-config |
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| 00:40.19 | agney | mentor, :) |
| 00:40.25 | abrotman | agney: ah ok |
| 00:40.29 | agney | menko, another brazilian newbie |
| 00:40.38 | agney | mentor, anyway. thanks :0 |
| 00:40.44 | abrotman | mentor: who used EP ? |
| 00:40.51 | mentor | Velte |
| 00:40.53 | abrotman | KORN! |
| 00:41.10 | Velte | nkuttler: no base-config there |
| 00:41.13 | EdLin | dpkg -i korn |
| 00:41.17 | mentor | abrotman: er? |
| 00:41.20 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 00:42.46 | SerajewelKS | how would i create a spanned/split zip file with the 'zip' program in debian? are split zips just "cut", e.g. would 'split' do the trick? |
| 00:42.58 | nkuttler | Velte: well... apt-get install base-config |
| 00:43.07 | streuner | Serjewel: look at rar |
| 00:43.11 | visik7 | any clue? |
| 00:43.13 | SerajewelKS | !rar |
| 00:43.13 | streuner | SerajewelKS: look at rar |
| 00:43.14 | dpkg | well, rar is an archiver used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz, or the worst file format ever, or ask me about unrar |
| 00:43.15 | abrotman | Velte: are you installing etch? |
| 00:43.26 | Velte | apt-get didn't find base-config... changing from stable -> unstable |
| 00:43.26 | _abbenormal | anyone else getting this error building xorg subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 10 |
| 00:43.39 | nkuttler | pfff |
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| 00:44.02 | Velte | so abortet stable setup at base-config startup, dist-upgrade to unstable, and now I want to install desktop environment, webserver, fileserver and stuff through the setup again |
| 00:44.04 | abrotman | _abbenormal: about your xorg.conf being changed? |
| 00:44.14 | SerajewelKS | streuner: is there a slightly more... friendly format i can use, particularly keeping in mind that it's going to be joined on a windows box |
| 00:44.20 | _abbenormal | fresh instll no xorg on system |
| 00:44.31 | abrotman | check the BTS? |
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| 00:44.43 | streuner | SerajewelKS: rar is well supported in windows |
| 00:44.44 | Azar | mentor I would need some advice regarding freenode, but on #freenode I do not have a voice |
| 00:44.49 | SerajewelKS | _abbenormal: i get that when updating xserver-xorg on my sid box, yes |
| 00:44.57 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: i can't find it on the BTS either |
| 00:45.02 | _abbenormal | yup same here |
| 00:45.07 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: not you .. _abbenormal |
| 00:45.15 | SerajewelKS | streuner: by third-party stuff that's often large piles of crap |
| 00:45.16 | _abbenormal | found a bug fix but it dont work |
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| 00:45.21 | spfdz | Can someone tell me if this will work for thunderbird: Move my files from Application Data (on my windows box) to .Mozilla-Thunderbird on the linux box |
| 00:45.23 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: yes i know |
| 00:45.30 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: but if i couldn't find it... |
| 00:45.42 | mentor | Azar: /msg a staffer, ask the question or ask for a voice. |
| 00:45.43 | streuner | SerajewelKS: i thought you want create one, not use one :-) |
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| 00:45.55 | Azar | mentor: thanks |
| 00:45.57 | SerajewelKS | streuner: ... what? |
| 00:46.01 | streuner | nm |
| 00:46.13 | mentor | Azar: There should be instrucitons on how to see active staffers. |
| 00:46.23 | SerajewelKS | streuner: i want to split a file into pieces such that a typical XP box would be able to reconstruct it, that's why zip comes to mind |
| 00:46.24 | abrotman | Azar: wait .. they'll give it to you |
| 00:46.45 | SerajewelKS | streuner: IIRC, spanned zip is just a zip file cut into pieces, but i wanted to make sure before i burn 7gb of bandwidth |
| 00:46.47 | Azar | ok , thanks abrotman |
| 00:46.49 | streuner | SerajewelKS: as i said before, rar is just fine to create what you need |
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| 00:47.02 | SerajewelKS | streuner: except typical XP boxen don't do rar |
| 00:47.18 | abrotman | Azar: is it important/urgent? |
| 00:47.20 | masterra | Can anyone reccomend anything else for trying to recover an ext3 partition? half of it is gone.. testdrive wont' help.. e2fsck says the filesystem superblock claims to be bigger than the device size (which is correct).. it seems to be recovering it, but only manually, where i have to press Y for every missing block.. |
| 00:47.34 | Azar | abrotman: is not urgent, I can wait :) |
| 00:47.38 | mentor | SerajewelKS: Neither do typical Linux boxen |
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| 00:48.50 | beetlepun_ | SerajewelKS, zipsplit |
| 00:48.52 | SerajewelKS | mentor: of course |
| 00:49.04 | mentor | masterra: You can use the -y option to e2fsck |
| 00:49.12 | SerajewelKS | beetlepun_: god, dude you know i think i'm going blind? |
| 00:49.12 | mentor | masterra: Not sure if that is the best idea thouhg |
| 00:49.16 | SerajewelKS | beetlepun_: thanks |
| 00:49.44 | masterra | mentor: i already tried the -y option - it says yes to all questiosn, include the first one which is "abort?" :D |
| 00:49.49 | beetlepun_ | SerajewelKS, also p7zip is available on windows and linux-- 7zip on winbloze can work on tar.gz files.. |
| 00:49.57 | streuner | !info rar |
| 00:49.59 | dpkg | rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 416 kB |
| 00:51.30 | mentor | masterra: haha |
| 00:51.35 | beetlepun_ | can someone edit the headline for testdisk to be a mandatory tool for partition table recovery, it seems like at least a few times i mentioned this .. |
| 00:52.27 | mentor | headline? |
| 00:52.54 | beetlepun_ | mentor, y for this channel, because it does work great, i think better than gpart in some cases.. |
| 00:52.57 | masterra | beetlepun_: know of anything for filesystem recovery? :) |
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| 00:53.11 | mentor | beetlepun_: Add/Edit dpkg |
| 00:53.28 | beetlepun_ | masterra, (testdisk is the prorgam tool -- check ultimate boot cd-- or the debian rescue cd-- not sure if it does contain testdisk latest) |
| 00:53.30 | mentor | !findvals testdrive |
| 00:53.42 | d3t | website www.debian.org doesnt seem in good shape |
| 00:53.47 | mentor | !findvals testdisk |
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| 00:53.56 | SerajewelKS | !info testdisk |
| 00:54.04 | dpkg | testdisk: (Partition scanner and disk recovery tool), section admin, is optional. Version: 6.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 426 kB, Installed size: 1232 kB |
| 00:54.22 | mentor | d3t: wfm. What's the problem? |
| 00:54.27 | abrotman | mentor: you know .. make people do smart things before doing something dangerous .. common sense :) |
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| 00:54.39 | streuner | dpkg, start an archiver war is <reply> (tar|zip|rar|zoo|lha|arj) (sucks|bites|blows(| chunks| goats)|makes me vomit)! |
| 00:54.39 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
| 00:54.47 | abrotman | you forgot 7z |
| 00:54.50 | d3t | mentor I can't access www.debian.org |
| 00:55.05 | abrotman | d3t: it's just you |
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| 00:55.16 | beetlepun_ | and cpio |
| 00:55.34 | d3t | hmmm |
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| 00:55.52 | Velte | abrotman: installing what, etch?? |
| 00:55.58 | masterra | beetlepun_: well, it's not my boot disk that's broken, so i can work on it from my normal environment.. i just need a tool for recovering anything that's left.. i know at least 40% of it is gone.. but testdisk seems to be only for recovering lost partition tables? |
| 00:56.13 | mentor | d3t: Can you resolve www.debian.org? |
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| 00:56.33 | d3t | yes, its 192.25.206.10 |
| 00:56.46 | beetlepun_ | masterra, yuck.. run testdisk, recreate the partition table if you screwed it, then run e2fsck |
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| 00:57.04 | d3t | doesnt respond ping though |
| 00:57.13 | d3t | oh now it worked |
| 00:57.15 | unstable | !tetrinet |
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| 00:57.16 | dpkg | tetrinet is, like, probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 00:57.20 | abrotman | cause there isn't a single ISP that blocks ping |
| 00:57.39 | Velte | how to launch meny where I can choose to install desktop environment, webserver and fileserver? |
| 00:57.42 | d3t | abrotman what are you talking about ? |
| 00:57.51 | abrotman | d3t: cows .. they taste good |
| 00:57.57 | beetlepun_ | abrotman, there's also a cool multi-pacman game online, but it sucks slow over the net.. |
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| 00:58.35 | abrotman | beetlepun_: eh ? |
| 00:58.39 | thingfish | beetlepun_: gosh you're so cool...hang out in #fedora and help people, then come into #debian and help people too. |
| 00:58.41 | d3t | your sister also tastes good and I ain't talkin about her |
| 00:58.52 | streuner | haha |
| 00:58.59 | masterra | beetlepun_: the partition table isn't gone. it's still there.. it's just that it's on a smaller disk than it was on before, and it's been resized appropriately.. so the filesystem says it is 200 gigs, but it's only one a 100 gig drive.. e2fsck says that at the start, and will let me "rewrite" each block that's beyond the end of the drive.. but it makes me say Y for every block! |
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| 00:59.15 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: http://www.sinfest.net/d/20060430.html |
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| 01:00.16 | sinisterr | d3t: 192.25.206.10 < www.debian.org |
| 01:00.25 | dondelelcaro | masterra: so use resize2fs or similar to shrink the ext2 filesystem |
| 01:00.30 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: hehe |
| 01:00.32 | dondelelcaro | masterra: although, you really should do that first |
| 01:00.42 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: any chance on that ubuntu ban? or not gonna happen again ? |
| 01:00.51 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: which one? |
| 01:01.00 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: oh .. it's there .. how'd that guy get in here |
| 01:01.10 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: cristano .. |
| 01:01.23 | abrotman | no . that wasn' tit |
| 01:01.36 | Velte | how to launch meny where I can choose to install desktop environment, webserver and fileserver? |
| 01:01.39 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.39 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it's a forwarding ban, but it doesn't trigger on people who have /nick'ed |
| 01:01.44 | abrotman | ah ok |
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| 01:01.51 | masterra | dondelelcaro: i have tried resize2fs and ext2resize, both fail. not really sure why.. i can give you output if you think you can decypher it |
| 01:02.07 | dondelelcaro | since I figure that if you're clued enough to /nick, you should be able to figure out which channel you belong in... |
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| 01:02.25 | dondelelcaro | (of course, that assumption is probably in error from time to time) |
| 01:02.43 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 01:05.13 | Velte | how to install desktop environment, webserver and fileserver from scratch on debian? |
| 01:05.13 | BlackJudas | What's ... well... what package (program) that auto mounts a usb disk to a specific mount point? if it's there of course :) (otherwise fstab I know) |
| 01:05.41 | BlackJudas | Velte, depends on what services/desktop/webserver you want to run. |
| 01:05.55 | BlackJudas | or simply tasksel |
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| 01:06.19 | Velte | BlackJudas: I want the meny thats shows the main groups I wanna install packages from... |
| 01:06.24 | abrotman | tasksel |
| 01:06.31 | Velte | thanks ;) |
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| 01:08.35 | rzr | hi |
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| 01:08.54 | rzr | how to limit bandwidth use ? |
| 01:09.01 | abrotman | for what? |
| 01:09.02 | rzr | for apt ? |
| 01:09.03 | abrotman | a single app ? |
| 01:09.07 | abrotman | !info trickle sarge |
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| 01:09.11 | rzr | yea |
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| 01:09.12 | dpkg | trickle: (user-space bandwidth shaper), section net, is optional. Version: 1.07-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
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| 01:09.28 | rzr | abrotman: thanx |
| 01:09.37 | BlackJudas | So... google's not helping me, since I don't know what to search for... is it a udev rule? is it a package? :o |
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| 01:11.30 | nite613 | ls |
| 01:11.33 | nite613 | shit :P |
| 01:11.49 | nite613 | Umm, what's the maximum number of files I can put in a directory? |
| 01:11.56 | nite613 | on an ext2 with 2.6 |
| 01:12.10 | AngolaHacker | hmm.. |
| 01:12.17 | AngolaHacker | do it |
| 01:12.24 | AngolaHacker | make a program. |
| 01:12.45 | AngolaHacker | create file in the directory and indicate it |
| 01:12.58 | blaylock | the remainder of the disk i thought |
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| 01:14.04 | AngolaHacker | remainer of the disk? |
| 01:14.18 | AngolaHacker | no limit? |
| 01:14.51 | james_ | is anyone able to help me get dovecot running again. I can't find any errors anywhere, it just won't start. I have no idea where to begin now (kernel debugger???). I could really use some ideas. |
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| 01:15.28 | AngolaHacker | what is dovecot? |
| 01:15.34 | asg | AngolaHacker: an IMAP server |
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| 01:15.41 | AngolaHacker | ah.. |
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| 01:16.21 | james_ | it's run great for about a year. I didn't change my config file.. it just died while I was checking my mail. |
| 01:18.16 | james_ | is there some tool that's available that will monitor what a program is doing while it's trying to start? |
| 01:18.48 | asg | james_: strace |
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| 01:19.27 | masterra | alright, well i'm gonna run badblocks and see if it'll add all of the missing blocks into the badblocks list, and see if that'll let it at least mount.. if i can get it mounted again i can get my data off..! |
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| 01:24.38 | james_ | asg: thanks.. I'm not any further ahead now, but I can see that it's crashing at the same place every time. |
| 01:25.01 | asg | james_: what debian version are you running? |
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| 01:25.15 | james_ | asg: sarge |
| 01:25.40 | zood_ | yesterday something happened on my other computer where the hd glitched and was automatically remounted as read only. After rebooting it ran for a while okay but then later was remounted read only again. What's the best course of action in a situation like this? |
| 01:25.57 | asg | james_: hmmm, okay. Paste the 20 lines before and after the crash into the paster bot (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 01:26.30 | SerajewelKS | zood_: back up and replace it drive ASAP |
| 01:26.41 | SerajewelKS | zood_: s/it/the/ |
| 01:27.17 | james_ | access("/usr/lib/dovecot/dovecot-auth", X_OK) = 0 |
| 01:27.17 | james_ | open("/dev/null", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 |
| 01:27.18 | james_ | fcntl64(3, F_GETFD) = 0 |
| 01:27.18 | james_ | fcntl64(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 |
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| 01:27.48 | zood_ | SerajewelKS, damn its only a few months old arg |
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| 01:28.09 | SerajewelKS | zood_: could be a kernel bug too, or a bad IDE controller, or a bad IDE cable, or ... |
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| 01:28.38 | zood_ | SerajewelKS, it did happen after I installed a new secondary hd |
| 01:29.08 | zood_ | SerajewelKS, not immediately after but 'bout a day later |
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| 01:29.48 | SerajewelKS | zood_: take it out and see if it still happens |
| 01:30.11 | blaylock | anyone here subscribe to any networking magazines? |
| 01:30.13 | zood_ | SerajewelKS, ah yes good plan |
| 01:30.17 | james_ | sorry guys. |
| 01:30.20 | SerajewelKS | !anyone |
| 01:30.21 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 01:31.07 | blaylock | ok |
| 01:31.20 | blaylock | networking magazines |
| 01:31.21 | blaylock | there |
| 01:31.23 | blaylock | happy? |
| 01:31.43 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: nobody really cares, do you have a networking-related question, or are you taking a poll? |
| 01:31.59 | dvs | SerajewelKS: What if you're polling a network? ;-) |
| 01:32.24 | SerajewelKS | dvs: then you're not asking off-topic questions here ;) |
| 01:32.26 | zood_ | !poll |
| 01:32.26 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls> |
| 01:32.29 | blaylock | SerajewelKS, no im trying to ask if anyone has any good magazines that they subcribe to, so that i might check them out too |
| 01:32.53 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: google is better than any magazine IMO |
| 01:32.55 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 01:32.55 | dpkg | i heard tetrinet is probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 01:33.04 | Azar | blaylock: to make you happy, personally no I do not subscribe, I just google and get all I need on news for free |
| 01:33.06 | james_ | here's the link for the paste I accidentally flooded everyone with: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2483 |
| 01:33.17 | SerajewelKS | unstable: is that necessary |
| 01:33.25 | blaylock | Azar, thanks.....thats a response i would have prefered |
| 01:33.32 | blaylock | except i got ..... |
| 01:33.35 | blaylock | !bullshit |
| 01:33.35 | dpkg | DRINK! |
| 01:33.59 | Azar | blaylock: I get my share of documentation, news , howtos on my bookmarks from google |
| 01:34.00 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: again, because this is not the proper channel. #network(ing) might be a better place to ask. |
| 01:35.26 | blaylock | ok well thanks for your input but its been no help so far |
| 01:35.27 | Azar | blaylock: this is a debian help specific channel... don't get upset |
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| 01:35.36 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: i don't really mean to be rude, but it's really pretty far off-topic. |
| 01:35.42 | Azar | need help with debian networking issues, ask |
| 01:35.57 | blaylock | nah i i have to put up with an over logical, stick to the rules type of guy at work all the time |
| 01:36.02 | unstable | SerajewelKS: yes, because a lot of people don't know about tetrinet and that they can play network tetris on their debian system. |
| 01:36.07 | blaylock | and it would be nice to escape it for once |
| 01:36.13 | unstable | SerajewelKS: People from here join and enjoy the game and have a good time. |
| 01:36.39 | Azar | blaylock: out of topi questions may impede others, with legit debian needs to get their help |
| 01:36.43 | blaylock | hmmmm, debian and networking...dude they go together like pb & j |
| 01:37.02 | zood_ | The seemingly nitpicking rules, really help make communication more efficient. "what is a good networking magazine?" would still be off-topic but might have a better chance of getting a simple helpful answer |
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| 01:37.03 | SerajewelKS | unstable: lots of people don't know how much fun bzflag is either. shall i start spamming about it every half hour too? |
| 01:37.12 | asg | blaylock: try debian-administration.org |
| 01:37.44 | blaylock | geez forget i asked |
| 01:37.45 | zood_ | *apt-caching searches bzflag* |
| 01:37.45 | kingsley | Can any image viewing application antialias? |
| 01:37.51 | james_ | asg: did that snippet from strace make any sense? |
| 01:37.55 | zood_ | chache |
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| 01:38.02 | zood_ | doh, cache |
| 01:38.02 | SerajewelKS | dvs: oh hell yeah... |
| 01:38.07 | asg | dvs: yeah, that was a good one |
| 01:38.24 | asg | james_: there was nothing in it to indicate a problem from my perspective |
| 01:39.11 | james_ | asg: except that it stopped.... I'm starting to wonder if I don't have a bigger problem somewhere... and not just PEBKAC |
| 01:39.19 | james_ | asg: that's a given. |
| 01:39.45 | asg | james_: well, if you haven't changed anything and you are running stable, I'd agree |
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| 01:40.30 | Led_Zeppelin | I am trying to DVD record, and I am doing this: dvdrecord speed=1 -dao dev=0,0,0 roger.img |
| 01:40.49 | Led_Zeppelin | But I get this error |
| 01:40.51 | Led_Zeppelin | dvdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver. |
| 01:40.52 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: you're trying to roger your DVD/R |
| 01:40.52 | james_ | asg: I did try an upgrade (got a new kernel), and a reinstall of dovecot, but the results were the same. I'm starting to wonder if there isn't something more nefarious going on. |
| 01:41.01 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: they go together about as much as my super nintendo and electical wiring |
| 01:41.06 | Led_Zeppelin | asg: ? |
| 01:41.24 | asg | Led_Zeppelin: nevermind, tasteless joke |
| 01:41.25 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: related, sure. but i don't join SNES forums to ask how to wire my house. |
| 01:41.34 | Led_Zeppelin | asg: hehe. okay. :-) |
| 01:41.43 | zood_ | Led_Zepplin, ah the evil scsi. I was having similar problems with cd burning and only was able to solve through 4 hours of trail and error |
| 01:41.57 | Led_Zeppelin | zood_: what was the solution? |
| 01:41.59 | asg | james_: a new kernel? What version? |
| 01:42.01 | blaylock | well you need electrical wiring to use your snes |
| 01:42.15 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: like i said, related. |
| 01:42.21 | blaylock | so to follow the logic you would need debian to do networking |
| 01:42.41 | SerajewelKS | blaylock: it was a loose analogy. swap them if you want. |
| 01:42.51 | asg | blaylock: no. I many contexts, networking has nothing to do with computers. Define what you mean by 'networking' please. |
| 01:43.06 | james_ | asg: 2.6.8-3-k7. It's new to me anyhow. I just run the debian kernel-images. I've never felt the need to compile my own at home. |
| 01:43.24 | blaylock | im in a computer chat room, why would i ask a question about social networking? |
| 01:43.26 | zood_ | !ide-scsi |
| 01:43.26 | dpkg | ide-scsi is, like, a horrible kludge (Linus says something like this: http://programming.linux.com/article.pl?sid=03/12/09/1341236 ) and you don't need it to run CD record in Debian anyway http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/339#comment_5 |
| 01:43.40 | asg | james_: that's fine, just a security update. |
| 01:43.43 | blaylock | now you're just reaching |
| 01:43.54 | Blissex | 'ide-scsi' is not an horrible kludge, and Linus misunderstood it. |
| 01:43.58 | zood_ | Led_Zeppelin, for one thing I think I had to install the ide-scsi module |
| 01:44.11 | Azar | ew gross |
| 01:44.18 | james_ | asg: nod. I'm starting to wish I'd taken the time to install tripwire. |
| 01:44.19 | asg | blaylock: you're in a computer chatroom, many on/off-topic items are discussed |
| 01:44.38 | asg | !qotd161 |
| 01:44.39 | dpkg | it has been said that qotd161 is * asg sings the 'My Little Pony' song |
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| 01:44.48 | zood_ | Blissex, you may be right. All I know was that it was one heck of a pain to get cd burning working on my comp |
| 01:45.09 | Blissex | zood_: it is actually damn easy if you know the secret incantation... |
| 01:45.16 | Blissex | zood_: a bit sad really. |
| 01:45.45 | Led_Zeppelin | zood_: kernel-patch-scsi-idle ? |
| 01:45.46 | asg | james_: maybe. debsums(1) might help. |
| 01:45.46 | Blissex | zood_: the secret incantation is to use 'ATAPI:/dev/hdX' as the device name... |
| 01:46.00 | zood_ | Blissex, that true. But isn't that the case with all problems? Once you know how to do it, it's easy |
| 01:46.08 | Kovecses | there are a ton of backports now huh |
| 01:46.43 | Blissex | zood_: nooo, because these are man made problems. They are not problems, they are riddles. Easily avoided if there were docs... |
| 01:46.50 | thingfish | Kovecses: yes, but don't go crazy with them. They're not always entirely 100% safe. |
| 01:46.53 | zood_ | Led_Zeppelin, I didn't have to patch the kernel |
| 01:47.06 | Led_Zeppelin | hmm |
| 01:47.22 | Kovecses | thingfish, no im not.... i only get one thing from backports... i like being stable |
| 01:47.28 | zood_ | Blissex, I think you are right about what the secret incantation was though |
| 01:47.52 | zood_ | Blissex, problem was, I had to figure it out by trial and error. Even google didn't tell me to do that |
| 01:47.53 | deadcat | why is xfree86-common being installed in unstable when i dist-upgrade? |
| 01:48.18 | thingfish | Kovecses: all I dare get (after trying other things, like a kernel, and getting burned) is firefox and thunderbird. |
| 01:48.21 | Kovecses | deadcat, did you start ou twith sarge |
| 01:48.23 | thingfish | oh and gaim. |
| 01:48.29 | Blissex | zood_: and the most amusing thing is that if you use that, 'cdrecord' tells you it is going not to work or it is going to be very slow, which is no longer correct. |
| 01:48.39 | Kovecses | thingfish, yup firefox here ..... |
| 01:48.41 | deadcat | Kovecses: no. woody. i am on sid for years now |
| 01:49.24 | zood_ | Led_Zeppelin, for one I had to make sure that the ide-scsi module was loaded. Google will tell you how to make it load at boot. It was a little involved (at least for a newb like me) but doable |
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| 01:49.50 | Kovecses | is the regular mozilla browser dead? |
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| 01:50.09 | thingfish | Kovecses: yeah from what I've read. |
| 01:50.09 | james_ | asg: Thanks for the tip. I've got many without md5sums, but I'm not sure I've invoked the program properly. |
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| 01:51.05 | Led_Zeppelin | zood_: wow..this was working before..too hard now :-) |
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| 01:51.49 | zood_ | Led_Zeppelin, yah really annoying |
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| 01:52.49 | myboxen | evening al |
| 01:52.49 | myboxen | s/al/all |
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| 01:54.00 | Kovecses | ok then firefox it is |
| 01:54.16 | jamesd | is there any linux filesystems that can grow the filesystem on line without mounting ro or totally unmounting? |
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| 01:55.41 | Blissex | jamesd: almost all. |
| 01:56.34 | Kovecses | what is a good sarge theme? |
| 01:57.56 | Led_Zeppelin | zood_: I am using grub, how do I put this option in grub 'hdc=ide-scsi max_scsi_luns=1' ? |
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| 01:59.01 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 01:59.11 | dvs | Led_Zeppelin: On the "# kopt=" line |
| 01:59.17 | Kovecses | noone can suggest a good gnome theme for sarge |
| 01:59.18 | Led_Zeppelin | 2.6.15-1-686 |
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| 01:59.27 | dvs | nevermind |
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| 01:59.39 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: why on earth would you use ide-scsi with a 2.6 kernel? |
| 01:59.45 | StijnT | =) |
| 01:59.53 | Led_Zeppelin | stew: cdrecord |
| 01:59.57 | Led_Zeppelin | or dvdrecord |
| 02:00.00 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: you don't need or want it |
| 02:00.16 | stew | Led_Zeppelin: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc /path/to/iso |
| 02:00.20 | dvs | or growisofs |
| 02:00.24 | zinx | ATA devices support the SG_IO ioctl in 2.6 |
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| 02:02.09 | james_ | asg: Thanks again for the help. I'm going to try removing dovecot entirely and writing a new config file, just in case that was my problem. |
| 02:02.16 | Led_Zeppelin | stew: i love you! |
| 02:02.25 | Kovecses | get a room |
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| 02:03.02 | IceTox | reboot of gdm |
| 02:03.07 | Led_Zeppelin | stew: you are totally right, it should be /dev/hdc |
| 02:03.09 | Led_Zeppelin | duh! |
| 02:03.14 | dahkneth | how do I charge my battery on my powerbook? |
| 02:03.18 | zinx | why not just use /dev/cdrom? :D |
| 02:03.24 | Kovecses | dahkneth, plug it in |
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| 02:03.33 | zinx | debian creates a link for it if you're using the debian stuff |
| 02:03.45 | dahkneth | Kovecses: that's all? |
| 02:03.51 | dahkneth | Kovecses: wonder why it's not charging then |
| 02:03.57 | Kovecses | dahkneth, hmm |
| 02:04.06 | dahkneth | Kovecses: when I try the button I get a led blinkin on it |
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| 02:05.11 | thingfish | Kovecses: so are you getting used to Debian? |
| 02:06.09 | Kovecses | thingfish, oh yes |
| 02:06.22 | thingfish | :) |
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| 02:06.29 | Kovecses | thingfish, got it all set up..... |
| 02:06.38 | pioto | how do i tell aptitude to unselect everything currently selected for some action or another? |
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| 02:06.49 | thingfish | Kovecses: I fell totally in love with it...after all those years of putting up with redhat/fedora bugs. |
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| 02:08.15 | Kovecses | thingfish, to tell you the truth I was so sick of the bugs... and having to reinstall every update... yeah i look forward to the debian etch stable release but .... sarge is great for me until then |
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| 02:09.03 | foo | Anyone familiar with adobe audition? it's an audio editing application ... I can insert mp3s, mix, record new tracks over other tracks (mp3s, wavs.. whatever) ... anyone know of a linux solution for this? |
| 02:09.14 | Kovecses | and the packages are way better |
| 02:09.25 | Kovecses | java-package makes java a breeze |
| 02:09.34 | thingfish | Kovecses: the way I look at it, what's in sarge works - even if it's not totally current. Who cares if you have the latest versions of apps if they're half broken. |
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| 02:09.48 | thingfish | Kovecses: plus apt-get is simply a work of art. |
| 02:09.50 | Led_Zeppelin | foo: audiocity |
| 02:09.56 | thingfish | Kovecses: no more yum! |
| 02:10.08 | dvs | foo: you have the audacity to ask that here!? ;-) |
| 02:10.10 | Kovecses | thingfish, i can do everything in sarge that I could in fc5 which is bleeding edge |
| 02:10.20 | thingfish | Kovecses: totally! |
| 02:10.24 | foo | dvs: haha |
| 02:10.29 | dondelelcaro | foo: uh... there are tons of packages that can do that. |
| 02:10.32 | foo | Led_Zeppelin: audiocity or audacity ? |
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| 02:11.00 | Led_Zeppelin | audacity |
| 02:11.01 | Led_Zeppelin | sorry |
| 02:11.03 | dvs | !info audacity |
| 02:11.06 | dpkg | audacity: (A fast, cross-platform audio editor), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.4b-2 (sid), Packaged size: 1883 kB, Installed size: 5057 kB |
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| 02:11.08 | Led_Zeppelin | little drunk here |
| 02:11.12 | SquareGuy | ever try slapt-get (slackware)? if you tried to do a system update you were about 90% certain to get a broken system |
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| 02:11.29 | Kovecses | thingfish, its bad enough I do tech support for winblows for a living .. lol |
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| 02:13.05 | Kovecses | SquareGuy, Yeah I wasnt much into slackware either |
| 02:14.03 | SquareGuy | Kovecses, yeah no dependancy checking can really suck, I don't want to hunt down every little thing that depends to install a single app |
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| 02:14.21 | SquareGuy | but it has gotten much better, to be fair |
| 02:15.22 | Kovecses | i dont like the fact that it is maintained buy a single person |
| 02:18.01 | abrotman | HI |
| 02:18.41 | Kovecses | hi |
| 02:19.21 | abrotman | HIHI |
| 02:19.27 | dvs | oi |
| 02:19.27 | SquareGuy | Kovecses, it is a good distro if you know what you want out of it. if i wanted to run just cinerella i would definately consider it. its pretty fast and stable but package management blows for sure. |
| 02:19.41 | ArtistAgent | hey does anyone know where to find a good sources.list resource listing |
| 02:19.59 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 02:19.59 | dpkg | i guess debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 02:20.16 | ArtistAgent | ah thanks |
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| 02:21.48 | Kovecses | SquareGuy, cinerella? |
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| 02:22.31 | SquareGuy | Kovecses, digital video editing software |
| 02:22.39 | Kovecses | ahh |
| 02:23.18 | SquareGuy | Kovecses, of course now I realize I mispelled it... Cinelerra... oops |
| 02:24.02 | Kovecses | what is the module i need to add to get dma on my cdrom drive? |
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| 02:24.29 | abrotman | i don't think CDROMs do DMA |
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| 02:24.35 | abrotman | do they? |
| 02:24.36 | dvs | !find cinelerra sarge |
| 02:24.36 | Kovecses | yup the do |
| 02:24.40 | dvs | nope |
| 02:24.53 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'cinelerra' returned no results. |
| 02:25.00 | abrotman | Kovecses: if you know they do .. then you should know the module to load |
| 02:25.02 | Kovecses | or else it is going to take me an hour to copy my music |
| 02:25.11 | Kovecses | abrotman, i thought it was ide-core |
| 02:25.16 | Kovecses | hrmm |
| 02:25.24 | SquareGuy | dvs, i had to build mine from source |
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| 02:27.20 | Kovecses | brb |
| 02:27.24 | ppp | hi. i can't play sound as a normal user, but everything when running mixers/players as root. I tried "chmod 666 /dev/dsp" but it didn't helped. what should i do? |
| 02:27.46 | abrotman | are you in the audio group ? |
| 02:27.48 | nile | ppp, run 'groups'. is 'audio' listed? |
| 02:27.50 | Azar | ppp: adduser username audio |
| 02:27.54 | _abbenormal | ok guys just to let everyone know xorg is now fixed for sid 7.0.16 is out |
| 02:28.07 | dvs | and etch |
| 02:28.14 | zinx | what was fixed? o_O |
| 02:28.26 | nile | _abbenormal, are you on the x strike force? |
| 02:28.29 | _abbenormal | not sure about etch but i would think it would use the same |
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| 02:28.48 | abrotman | i doubt it |
| 02:29.12 | abrotman | since etch is still on 6.9 |
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| 02:29.16 | _abbenormal | xorg in 7.0.15 had errors with install on fresh installed system but it is working |
| 02:29.23 | Kovecses | how do I unload a module again? |
| 02:29.30 | abrotman | man modprobe |
| 02:29.38 | mbishop | rmmod |
| 02:29.42 | Kovecses | thats it |
| 02:29.43 | abrotman | man modprobe |
| 02:29.44 | Kovecses | ty |
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| 02:29.53 | Ashex | How do you configure alsa/oss? |
| 02:30.15 | _abbenormal | later all thanks everyone for the help |
| 02:30.20 | Kovecses | brb |
| 02:30.22 | Klowner | anyone know how to clear up the annoying iptables log messages in console? |
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| 02:30.42 | dvs | !install alsa |
| 02:30.51 | dvs | !alsa |
| 02:30.51 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist> |
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| 02:30.59 | Solet_mod | how can i view all mountable partitions? |
| 02:31.03 | dvs | Solet_mod: df |
| 02:31.12 | dvs | Solet_mod: or mount |
| 02:31.51 | Solet_mod | dvs.... thats mounted partitions... i mean all the ones that arent mounted.... how do i view them |
| 02:32.19 | dvs | Solet_mod: fdisk -l |
| 02:32.27 | dvs | Solet_mod: will list all hard drive partitions |
| 02:32.35 | SquareGuy | Solet_mod, cat /proc/partitions |
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| 02:33.39 | Kovecses | ok im good now |
| 02:34.11 | Kovecses | how come if I do a sarge install from cd and a net install ... things are different? |
| 02:34.29 | Kovecses | net install has more and better themes |
| 02:34.53 | Kovecses | ahh dma on my dvd drive......... woo hooo |
| 02:35.05 | nile | Kovecses, what do you mean by themes? |
| 02:35.48 | Kovecses | like ..... for one ... in gnome the theme switcher has like five more themes..... the default mozilla looks way better too.... also it has a better mouse theme |
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| 02:37.52 | abrotman | your nickname for #debian ? |
| 02:38.38 | Kovecses | nile, probably think im crazy but... try it.... maybey it has something to do with r2 |
| 02:38.54 | Kovecses | the disk i have is not |
| 02:38.56 | james_ | Just wanted to say the dovecot issue has been fixed. apt-get --purge remove dovecot-common dovecot-imapd, and reinstall and rebuild the config fixed everything. I'm wondering if it wasn't a certificates issue (since my new config is identical to my old one, just manually retyped). Thanks for all the help. |
| 02:39.24 | Kovecses | abrotman, what? |
| 02:39.36 | abrotman | what? |
| 02:40.11 | Kovecses | nm |
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| 02:40.49 | Kovecses | who was asking about alsa/oss? |
| 02:41.10 | abrotman | every 12th person |
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| 02:41.18 | nile | Kovecses, yeah, it probably just ships with more gtk-theme-* packages |
| 02:41.47 | Kovecses | nile, well... i like them\ |
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| 02:41.50 | nile | Kovecses, I believe gtk-theme-industrial provides the mouse cursor theme you are thinking of (white and compact?) |
| 02:42.05 | Kovecses | nile, yeah your probably right |
| 02:42.10 | spfdz | I have Four hard drives and fdisk -l doesn't show anything |
| 02:42.12 | spfdz | any ideas? |
| 02:42.22 | abrotman | specify a drive |
| 02:42.23 | Kovecses | spfdz, sata? |
| 02:42.33 | spfdz | 2xPATA, 2XSATA (mirror) |
| 02:42.44 | Kovecses | spfdz, did you install debian? |
| 02:42.47 | spfdz | yeah |
| 02:42.55 | spfdz | i have dual boot xp/debian |
| 02:43.01 | Kovecses | so your using 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:43.06 | spfdz | well I did a net install |
| 02:43.10 | spfdz | im assuming its the latest |
| 02:43.54 | abrotman | specify a drive |
| 02:43.59 | Kovecses | spfdz, well ... the defualt install didnt detect my sata |
| 02:44.13 | spfdz | Well, either way. It should detect the PATA =D |
| 02:44.14 | abrotman | it's installed |
| 02:44.21 | abrotman | SPECIFY A DEVICE |
| 02:44.22 | Kovecses | true |
| 02:44.25 | bono | Question: I just (re) installed sarge... Fetchmail hangs after starting to download the first message: "reading message <email address>:1 of 2 (2489 header octets)". Any idea? |
| 02:44.26 | Kovecses | yeah specify |
| 02:44.42 | spfdz | Can you guys give me an example (fairly new) |
| 02:44.49 | abrotman | /dev/hda |
| 02:44.52 | abrotman | /dev/sda |
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| 02:45.01 | abrotman | /dev/<whatever> |
| 02:45.07 | Kovecses | fdisk -l lists all my partitions without specifying |
| 02:45.11 | dvs | /dev/null? |
| 02:45.16 | abrotman | Kovecses: no |
| 02:45.20 | Kovecses | YES |
| 02:45.22 | abrotman | NO |
| 02:45.34 | spfdz|new2linux | cd /dev/hda, cd /dev/sda doesnt work |
| 02:45.39 | Kovecses | ssh into my box retard and see yourself |
| 02:45.39 | spfdz|new2linux | not a directory |
| 02:45.46 | abrotman | Kovecses: what version of Debian? |
| 02:45.49 | dvs | spfdz|new2linux: you cant cd to them |
| 02:45.51 | Kovecses | sarge |
| 02:45.58 | abrotman | nope |
| 02:46.01 | Kovecses | yup |
| 02:46.06 | abrotman | then you're the only one |
| 02:46.10 | Kovecses | 2.6 kernel though |
| 02:46.35 | nile | er.. lists them for me too.. |
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| 02:46.48 | abrotman | Kovecses: it doesn't matter .. or you're doing it as root ? |
| 02:47.07 | spfdz|new2linux | When I do fdisk /dev/sda (and hda) I get a response |
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| 02:47.22 | dvs | spfdz|new2linux: right. |
| 02:47.24 | |Sivik| | whats the new name for tuxracer |
| 02:47.34 | Kovecses | abrotman, fdisk as root yes |
| 02:47.44 | abrotman | Kovecses: that's a bit different .. and he didn't say he was either |
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| 02:47.47 | Kovecses | ppracer |
| 02:47.47 | Celeste | hi |
| 02:47.49 | Celeste | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 02:47.58 | Celeste | where do I have to check my X path please? |
| 02:48.01 | |Sivik| | then why can't i find it in the apt-cache? |
| 02:48.05 | Kovecses | abrotman, yeah yeah sure... try and twist it now |
| 02:48.21 | abrotman | Kovecses: no .. i don't care .. it certainly makes a difference .. have a nice day :) |
| 02:48.26 | Kovecses | abrotman, fdisk doesnt run as user |
| 02:48.29 | spfdz|new2linux | Is there an alternate command to fdisk? |
| 02:48.34 | Kovecses | cfdisk |
| 02:48.36 | nile | abrotman, the man page says that if no devices are given, it'll just use whatever's in /proc/partitions |
| 02:48.44 | dvs | !wayttc spfdz|new2linux |
| 02:48.50 | dvs | !wayttd spfdz|new2linux |
| 02:48.50 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, spfdz|new2linux? |
| 02:48.58 | |Sivik| | Kovecses: why can't i find it via apt-cache or apt-get |
| 02:48.59 | SquareGuy | spfdz|new2linux, you need to cd to a partition, not a device. if i were gonna look at my cdrom drive i would do 'mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom' 'cd /media/cdrom' |
| 02:49.06 | abrotman | nile: oddly .. it doesn't if you're not root .. oh well |
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| 02:49.17 | abrotman | nile: honestly .. i don't care |
| 02:49.21 | spfdz|new2linux | well what I want to do is mount one of my SATA NTFS drives |
| 02:49.24 | spfdz|new2linux | to get some data off of it |
| 02:49.32 | Kovecses | abrotman, fdisk doesnt work as a user by default |
| 02:49.32 | abrotman | !ntfsro |
| 02:49.33 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 02:49.39 | abrotman | Kovecses: i'm aware of that |
| 02:50.08 | Kovecses | so then wtf are you talking about? |
| 02:50.14 | Kovecses | sudo? |
| 02:50.36 | abrotman | who? me? |
| 02:50.42 | Kovecses | yes |
| 02:50.45 | abrotman | FARKING SOX |
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| 02:51.08 | Kovecses | lol ... abrotman is mad cuz he was wrong awwwww |
| 02:51.23 | abrotman | Kovecses: if you don't specify a device and you're not root .. it will never work |
| 02:51.25 | Kovecses | just like a cdrom drive cant use dma right |
| 02:51.39 | abrotman | Kovecses: i could care less if you're right .. or i'm right .. as long as someone is |
| 02:51.39 | Kovecses | abrotman, he must have been root |
| 02:52.00 | abrotman | Kovecses: well .. if he was root .. and it showed nothing .. then the machine isn't seeing his drives .. and he's got other issues |
| 02:52.04 | diego | Hi, i installed gnome in debian sid amd64 but when i click in the applications menu this automatically hides, any one can help me? |
| 02:52.15 | Kovecses | abrotman, yup |
| 02:52.16 | abrotman | diego: is menu-xdg installed ? |
| 02:52.46 | |Sivik| | how does one enable more places for apt-get tosearch |
| 02:52.47 | spfdz|new2linux | any good media players for linux? |
| 02:52.50 | diego | abrotman: yes |
| 02:52.54 | Kovecses | mplayer |
| 02:52.55 | dvs | spfdz|new2linux: yes |
| 02:52.55 | |Sivik| | mplayer |
| 02:53.04 | abrotman | mplayer isn't in debian |
| 02:53.12 | abrotman | diego: and menu ? |
| 02:53.19 | abrotman | Kovecses: did you fix his issue yet? |
| 02:53.21 | Kovecses | !marillat |
| 02:53.21 | dpkg | i heard marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add. If you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>. For specific sources.list lines, ask me about <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 02:53.26 | nite613 | Is there an easy way to turn on pcntl in PHP5 ? Or do I need to rebuild the package? |
| 02:53.34 | |Sivik| | !tuxracer |
| 02:53.34 | dpkg | well, tuxracer is an old game in Woody which PlanetPenguin Racer is based on. A transition package in Sarge. ask me about ppracer |
| 02:53.42 | |Sivik| | !ppracer |
| 02:53.42 | dpkg | it has been said that planetpenguin-racer is the package for PlanetPenguin Racer, an openGL game based on TuxRacer that lets you control Tux as you race down snow-covered mountains. Many levels are available. |
| 02:53.47 | diego | abrotman: thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) |
| 02:53.51 | spfdz|new2linux | okay, a media player thats in debian? |
| 02:53.57 | abrotman | totem |
| 02:53.58 | abrotman | xine |
| 02:54.00 | dvs | spfdz|new2linux: oh. xmms |
| 02:54.01 | abrotman | vlc |
| 02:54.08 | abrotman | what kind of media ? |
| 02:54.10 | diego | abrotman: thanks a lot! |
| 02:54.15 | spfdz|new2linux | well avi files |
| 02:54.21 | Kovecses | spfdz|new2linux, mplayer is what i use ...but vlc is nice |
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| 02:54.34 | abrotman | diego: all fixed ? |
| 02:54.43 | diego | abrotman: yes :) |
| 02:54.44 | GenNMX | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.49 | abrotman | diego: yay |
| 02:54.54 | SquareGuy | totem + win32codec + libdvdcss will play just about anything out there, only thing I cannot play is the encrypted wmv crap |
| 02:55.14 | GenNMX | So I started pulling out PCI cards in the rare chance they could be doing something and WHAMO! My SOUND card was doing it. Somehow. |
| 02:55.18 | abrotman | SquareGuy: and sorenson |
| 02:55.28 | abrotman | last i tried anyways |
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| 02:56.18 | sinisterr | hi is it possable to mix sarge with unstable or etch and if so what would be the likly rersults of this mixture? |
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| 02:56.27 | abrotman | !flamethrower |
| 02:56.27 | dpkg | Ever seen what happens when you put fire to plastic? This is what happens when you mix your sarge sources with testing/unstable |
| 02:56.31 | nile | GenNMX, randomly fixing stuff is what you live for? :) |
| 02:56.37 | dvs | sinisterr: disaster! |
| 02:56.40 | sinisterr | lol |
| 02:56.41 | GenNMX | How the hell does a PCI Sound card interfere with an AGP Video card? I thought PCI was made separate from AGP? |
| 02:56.52 | abrotman | GenNMX: IRQs |
| 02:56.59 | nile | GenNMX, maybe an interrupts issue? |
| 02:57.03 | zinx | GenNMX: you thought wrong |
| 02:57.03 | abrotman | that's about all i can think of |
| 02:57.05 | GenNMX | nile: Well, to be specific, I make my living FROM it ;) |
| 02:57.09 | sinisterr | dvst: so prolly not a good idea then? |
| 02:57.12 | bono | Question: I just (re) installed sarge... Fetchmail hangs after starting to download the first message: "reading message <email address>:1 of 2 (2489 header octets)". Any idea? |
| 02:57.17 | abrotman | GenNMX: can we have some of the money? |
| 02:57.19 | zinx | GenNMX: AGP and PCI are very closely related, and both have I/O |
| 02:57.21 | abrotman | sinisterr: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 02:57.34 | sinisterr | woops errr dvs |
| 02:57.37 | |Sivik| | this is beginning to piss me off |
| 02:57.42 | |Sivik| | i can't get the repos to change |
| 02:57.45 | dvst | sinisterr, i see |
| 02:57.45 | zinx | GenNMX: and broken ones can do all sorts of screwy things. |
| 02:57.48 | |Sivik| | it always gives me stupid errors |
| 02:57.58 | GenNMX | Yes, I thought it was IRQs as well, but the IRQ for the video card never changed before or after the sound card was installed. |
| 02:57.59 | bucky | |Sivik|: apt-get update |
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| 02:58.04 | karma | how do I configure X to use a refresh rate other than the blindingly painful 60 Hz |
| 02:58.05 | zinx | GenNMX: i have a broken PCI USB 2.0 controller that steals memory from the video card. |
| 02:58.14 | |Sivik| | bucky: thats when it gives me the error |
| 02:58.30 | zinx | GenNMX: also does other nasties |
| 02:58.32 | GenNMX | zinx: Really? I thought the PCI Bus and AGP Bus were completely separate. Do they interact in any normal way? |
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| 02:58.41 | bucky | |Sivik|: /msg dpkg apt-secure |
| 02:58.59 | zinx | GenNMX: But the most noticable is the screen will be black after a certain point (in the middle of one of the lines, near the bottom in 640x480, closer to the top in higher resolutions) |
| 02:59.17 | zinx | GenNMX: it doesn't matter if the busses are separate or not |
| 02:59.20 | GenNMX | Or am I mistaken, and AGP has to abide by the same bus limitations as PCI? |
| 02:59.23 | |Sivik| | bucky:what does that have to do with repos in apt-get? |
| 02:59.27 | zinx | GenNMX: But fwiw the AGP bus is seen as a PCI bus as well |
| 02:59.45 | bucky | |Sivik|: which version of debian? |
| 02:59.51 | SquareGuy | karma, what video card |
| 02:59.53 | |Sivik| | ubuntu |
| 03:00.01 | jetscreamer | is gnome in sid's screensaver problem a known issue with a known resolution? |
| 03:00.05 | GenNMX | Ahhhh, that makes sense. I thought that may be the case with lspci, but I couldn't be sure if that was just antequated output. |
| 03:00.11 | zinx | GenNMX: AGP is basically PCI + extra stuff to transfer faster, if you ask it nicely |
| 03:00.12 | |Sivik| | there it goes |
| 03:00.13 | bucky | |Sivik|: oh.. no wonder... debian doesn't work with ubuntu |
| 03:00.21 | karma | SquareGuy: Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT with "nvidia" proprietary drivers |
| 03:00.21 | abrotman | !vaguesmite jetscreamer |
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| 03:00.28 | bucky | |Sivik|: ask in #ubuntu |
| 03:00.33 | |Sivik| | bucky: i finally got it to work when i run the apt-get update |
| 03:00.38 | |Sivik| | no one in there is helping me |
| 03:00.38 | zinx | GenNMX: PCI-e is PCI with faster transfer, and you don't even have to ask it |
| 03:00.42 | |Sivik| | but i fixed it |
| 03:00.42 | raf256 | !smitesmite abrotman |
| 03:00.48 | SquareGuy | karma, so you have the nvidia drivers all installed then? |
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| 03:01.01 | bucky | !tell |Sivik| about debian based |
| 03:01.03 | GenNMX | zinx: Yeah, I was just getting my heels into the computing world when AGP was introduced, and I was told (wrongly) that AGP doesn't have any of the limitations of PCI. |
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| 03:01.11 | karma | SquareGuy: Yes, I can use hardware acceleration in OPenGL applications |
| 03:01.12 | GenNMX | zinx: Yeah, I know that much about PCI-e. |
| 03:01.17 | zinx | GenNMX: it has all of the limitations of PCI :D |
| 03:01.18 | k-man__ | whats the kernel make command that just asks you the new options since the last version you built? |
| 03:01.24 | zinx | GenNMX: except it also has a fast transfer mode |
| 03:01.32 | |Sivik| | bucky: the ppl in ubuntu are being annoyin |
| 03:01.41 | karma | SquareGuy: I just don't know how to tell it to give me better options than just 60Hz... |
| 03:01.43 | jetscreamer | abrotman: screensaver kicks in, mouse doesn't come back, and no focus for kb |
| 03:01.52 | GenNMX | I was 16. I also believed AOL 1.0 was a good service back then -- it had a DOS-based GUI!!!! |
| 03:01.53 | bucky | !tell |Sivik| about ubuntu |
| 03:02.09 | GenNMX | Everyday I find another misconception of my youth. |
| 03:02.11 | |Sivik| | bucky: stop giving me that crap |
| 03:02.12 | abrotman | jetscreamer: ouch .. that does sound bad |
| 03:02.21 | |Sivik| | bucky: i am already looking for help on that darn forum |
| 03:02.28 | zinx | GenNMX: damn, i didn't believe that even when i was 14, and that was way before AGP :D |
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| 03:02.44 | ranpha1 | hi, i'm trying to format a 300gb disk from ntfs to ext3 only when i do that i lose about 50gb in the progress. Is this the journal?? bec.ause 50gb is alot (i don't have this problem when selecting ntfs) |
| 03:02.51 | GenNMX | zinx: Do you live in Europe? |
| 03:02.56 | zinx | GenNMX: nope |
| 03:03.00 | karma | abotman: Do you know how to make it not 60Hz? |
| 03:03.14 | karma | Like 85Hz instead... |
| 03:03.19 | SquareGuy | karma, okay I am not familiar with the nvidia drivers specifically and I do not know if they have an app to do this for you. but you can do it manually. is your monitor configured properly? |
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| 03:03.46 | jetscreamer | !tell karma -about hwinfo |
| 03:03.59 | GenNMX | zinx: I mean, back then, it was very hard to get a reliable source for your information on computers and the Internet unless you got lucky. Europeans were luckier because they had more trust in BBSes and no Compuserve or AOL. |
| 03:04.18 | karma | jetscreamer: I know what refresh rates my monitor is capable of |
| 03:04.18 | GenNMX | zinx: My grandfather used Compuserve and Prodigy, so that's what I started on too. |
| 03:04.31 | jetscreamer | karma: then enter them |
| 03:04.31 | zinx | GenNMX: i used a local BBS first |
| 03:04.38 | GenNMX | How did you find it? |
| 03:04.40 | zinx | GenNMX: and my mother worked for the phone company |
| 03:04.42 | karma | I want to run at 1024x786 at 85Hz, but it's only giving me an option for 60Hz |
| 03:04.49 | karma | jetscreamer: Enter them where? |
| 03:04.50 | GenNMX | zinx: Ahhhhhh, there's a BIG break for you |
| 03:05.02 | jetscreamer | karma: and that's not 'refresh rates' exactly, just the result is |
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| 03:05.16 | GenNMX | zinx: My grandfather worked as an Electrical Engineer, which was close, where he knew a lot about how computers worked but not how the software worked. |
| 03:05.29 | zinx | GenNMX: i figured all that out on my own :D |
| 03:05.29 | GenNMX | And not much about the Internet, except how it's made ;) |
| 03:05.40 | karma | jetscreamer: You're telling me that 60Hz doesn't refer to my monitor's horizontal refresh rate? |
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| 03:05.58 | jetscreamer | karma: i'm not telling you anything |
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| 03:06.09 | zinx | GenNMX: i was programming in qbasic before i managed connecting to the outside world |
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| 03:06.11 | karma | jetscreamer: I just want to know where I configure X to make it use 86\5Hz... |
| 03:06.17 | karma | *85Hz |
| 03:06.41 | zinx | GenNMX: shortly after i found the outside world, i found linux and C, of course :D |
| 03:06.43 | GenNMX | zinx: So was I ;) My grandfather programmed in assembly...so I guess I should say, he didn't know much about the Internet specifically |
| 03:07.16 | GenNMX | But alas, he was old then and is still old now, and old = stubborn, and stubborn = he STILL codes in BASIC (he forgot most of his assembly) |
| 03:07.17 | SquareGuy | karma, your monitor needs to be configured. you need to know your horizontal and vertical refresh rates. this information can be found in the monitors manual or looked up online. |
| 03:07.48 | GenNMX | I keep telling him that learning C is easy, he's put it off for the last...5 years |
| 03:08.04 | jetscreamer | by properly configuring horizsync and vertrefresh |
| 03:08.06 | GenNMX | But I did get him using Linux. He HATES Microsoft and Bill Gates. |
| 03:08.10 | karma | SquareGuy: I know what refresh rates it uses, I just want to know where to *edit* that information... or what setup program to use?? |
| 03:08.35 | jetscreamer | !tell karma -about drxx |
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| 03:10.07 | SquareGuy | okay then edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and plug your numbers into the monitor section. |
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| 03:12.10 | spfdz|new2linux | Any quick way to get photos off my digi cam via usb ? |
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| 03:12.16 | spfdz|new2linux | cd / |
| 03:12.16 | spfdz|new2linux | ls |
| 03:12.18 | spfdz|new2linux | whoops sorry |
| 03:12.27 | GenNMX | What's a commonly compatible sound card with OSS, ALSA, and ARTS? |
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| 03:13.43 | EdLin | spfdz|new2linux: at least you didn't put "passwd" and the next line after that. ;-) |
| 03:14.40 | Holborn | karma if you use the lastest nvidia drivers add the modes in your xorg.conf like this <width>x<height>_<refreshrate> ..restart and check if their are listed with xrandr .. |
| 03:15.08 | spfdz|new2linux | Edlin :P |
| 03:15.35 | spfdz|new2linux | What directorys are debian appps installed to? |
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| 03:15.48 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 03:15.54 | EdLin | spfdz|new2linux: man hier |
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| 03:16.39 | jetscreamer | karma: http://hfds.com/debian_files/xorg.conf.2.txt i think has an example |
| 03:16.54 | beered | Is x.org 7 in repos yet? |
| 03:17.05 | EdLin | beered: it's in unstable |
| 03:17.24 | EdLin | beered: /topic |
| 03:17.42 | beered | EdLin: LOL |
| 03:17.53 | beered | EdLin: I didn't notice the topic! :) |
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| 03:18.30 | beered | Hrmm... how bad is to mix testing with unstable? I just want to test the new release of x.org. |
| 03:19.01 | SerajewelKS | beered: the new release that doesn't work? |
| 03:19.03 | EdLin | beered: that's a very bad idea in this case, programs have to work with the new locations - you won't get that by mixing repos |
| 03:19.08 | zood_ | does wine run dos programs? If not, why does `apt-cache show xwine` tell me that it does? |
| 03:19.18 | karma | Holborn: Does it matter that under the " |
| 03:19.28 | SerajewelKS | zood_: it can, which program are you trying to run |
| 03:19.37 | karma | Section "Monitor"" there is a line "VertRefresh 43-72"? |
| 03:19.56 | EdLin | zood_: if all you need is DOS programs, dosemu and dosbox are very good. |
| 03:20.00 | zood_ | SerajewelKS, Master of Orion 1 ;) |
| 03:20.10 | SerajewelKS | zood_: is this a text-mode game? |
| 03:20.14 | beered | I wonder if xorg 7 will make it to Etch before Dec. |
| 03:20.24 | zood_ | SerajewelKS, no, not text mode |
| 03:20.31 | SerajewelKS | zood_: then wine will not run it |
| 03:20.39 | SerajewelKS | zood_: try dosbox |
| 03:20.41 | zood_ | SerajewelKS, ah, k, thanks |
| 03:20.57 | zood_ | Yah, dosbox and dosemu are both not running it "out of the box" |
| 03:21.11 | karma | Holborn: And where do I change it to " <width>x<height>_<refreshrate>" in the xorg.conf? Which section? |
| 03:21.36 | SerajewelKS | zood_: if they can't do it then wine certainly can't |
| 03:21.54 | SerajewelKS | hmm, i wonder if dosbox is good enough to run win3.1 |
| 03:22.07 | Holborn | karma Section Screen SubSection Display Modes ... |
| 03:22.10 | zood_ | grrg, might have to dual boot... :( |
| 03:22.27 | SerajewelKS | zood_: tried googling it? someone might have a way to get it to work in dosbox |
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| 03:23.18 | zood_ | SerajewlKS, yah tried google. Not much help. Master of Orion 1 seems to be largely forgotten |
| 03:23.32 | karma | Modes "1024x768_85" "800x600_85" "640x480_85" |
| 03:23.34 | karma | That would work? |
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| 03:24.25 | zood_ | SerajwelKS, it always seemed odd to me that windows emulation on linux seems better than dos emulation |
| 03:24.33 | CompWizrd | zood_: i disliked moo1 for the computer using 5000+ ship fleets against me |
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| 03:24.42 | CompWizrd | i liked moo2 for the super battleships taking on everything :) |
| 03:24.45 | beered | Is xorg 7 working for anybody? |
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| 03:24.50 | Holborn | karma: are you sure about your monitor support that refresh rates? .. then yes .. :) |
| 03:25.02 | EdLin | beered: iyhtays |
| 03:25.12 | jsubl2 | beered, yeah but i am running unstable |
| 03:25.18 | Holborn | beered yes |
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| 03:25.36 | karma | Holborn: Okay thanks! here goes nothing... |
| 03:25.44 | beered | Cool. Is compiz in unstable repos too? |
| 03:25.48 | CompWizrd | i played moo1 on my winxp machine if i remember right, through dosbox.. so i'd expect dosbox through linux to work as well |
| 03:26.01 | Holborn | karma: you need to restart ... then .. use xrandr to list the available modes .. |
| 03:26.03 | zood_ | CompWizrd, both 1 and 2 were great but I liked 1 for the simplicity. And yes everyone, we are off-topic, sorry |
| 03:26.29 | jetscreamer | make that http://hfds.com/debian_files/xorg.conf.txt |
| 03:26.29 | jtanoos | hi i have a quick (and hopefully easy question) about debian console.. for commands like "ls" and "iwlist scan" the output is usually too long to see all the text on the screen.. is there a command, such as "/p" in dos, that will pause the screen for a moment? |
| 03:26.37 | CompWizrd | zood_: and to complete the conversation, i don't consider Moo3 to be part of Moo at all.. it's a travesty against the genre, just like StarControl 3 :) |
| 03:26.44 | jetscreamer | jtanoos: ls | less |
| 03:26.54 | jtanoos | thanks jetscreamer, you are a god! |
| 03:27.03 | jtanoos | :) |
| 03:27.07 | jetscreamer | !worship jetscreamer |
| 03:27.13 | jetscreamer | nah |
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| 03:27.19 | jetscreamer | doesn't fit |
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| 03:27.38 | zood_ | CompWizrd, MOO1 seems to just hang right away in both dosbox and dosemu. I haven't even played moo3; I didn't want to be disappointed |
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| 03:28.57 | jtanoos | man where did you guys learn unix code? |
| 03:29.05 | karma | Holborn : Nope! It's still at 60Hz!! |
| 03:29.20 | zood_ | jtanoos, google |
| 03:29.51 | zood_ | Or go to the book store and just browse through all the commands in "linux in a nutshell" |
| 03:29.55 | jtanoos | hahaha i tried searching for that "| less" switch for weeks |
| 03:30.19 | jtanoos | maybe i should try to think more how a linux user would describe commands |
| 03:30.31 | Holborn | karma run xrandr ... see if the modes are listed |
| 03:30.33 | jtanoos | b/c they are the ones who write the faqs/help files/etc |
| 03:30.35 | AzianFlu | jtanoos, don't let em fool ya. they all memorized "man bash" 8) |
| 03:30.39 | zood_ | jtanoos, are you familiar with what the | means? |
| 03:31.04 | karma | *0 1024 x 768 ( 271mm x 203mm ) *60 |
| 03:31.06 | zood_ | AzianFlu, lol |
| 03:31.09 | jtanoos | nahh, i'm still learning zood, but let me look it up |
| 03:31.12 | karma | That's the only one available... |
| 03:31.15 | jtanoos | b/c then i will remember it |
| 03:31.31 | jtanoos | seriously though, you guys are like amazing |
| 03:31.35 | godmachine81_ | is there an estimated release date for etch? |
| 03:31.36 | jtanoos | maybe one day i'll be a guru too |
| 03:31.42 | Holborn | karma: you need to add the modes in your default deep subsection .. |
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| 03:31.52 | jtanoos | maybe im just older |
| 03:32.04 | beered | What's the best way to upgrade a machine? dselect, or just plain upgrade? |
| 03:32.05 | jtanoos | i picked up dos like in a week when i was 10 years old |
| 03:32.06 | zood_ | jtanoos, | lets you pipe the output of one command into the input of another command; one of the coolest things about *nix IMHO |
| 03:32.21 | karma | Holborn: What do you mean by "deep subsection"? |
| 03:32.30 | jroes | w |
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| 03:32.34 | godmachine81_ | beered: are you using testing, stable, or etch? |
| 03:32.35 | jroes | er, oops |
| 03:32.36 | jtanoos | whoa that is pretty cool |
| 03:32.41 | beered | godmachine81_: testing. |
| 03:33.07 | godmachine81_ | install apt-listbugs and then do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:33.08 | jtanoos | less is a text editor? |
| 03:33.20 | godmachine81_ | and it will give you bug warnings for the packages available |
| 03:33.23 | jtanoos | so i could do "ls | vim" |
| 03:33.43 | zood_ | jtanoos, no, less is like a text file viewer |
| 03:33.53 | beered | godmachine81_: dist-upgrade? I have testing and I just need to upgrade it, not dist upgrade it, but just patch it with latest packages. |
| 03:33.54 | jtanoos | oh okay |
| 03:33.56 | zood_ | cat foo.txt | less |
| 03:34.05 | zood_ | Lets you page through the file foo.txt |
| 03:34.06 | beered | godmachine81_: dist-upgrade? I have testing and I just need to upgrade it, not dist upgrade it, but just patch it with latest packages...for testing. |
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| 03:34.18 | godmachine81_ | beered: thats what it will do |
| 03:34.18 | jtanoos | whoa that's pretty cool |
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| 03:34.28 | jtanoos | kidna like "type" in dos |
| 03:34.36 | beered | godmachine81_: How is that different from dselect-upgrade? |
| 03:34.37 | jtanoos | but not really |
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| 03:34.47 | EdLin | zood_: that's the infamous unecessary cat. "less foo.txt" works fine |
| 03:34.47 | Holborn | karma normally in xorg.conf in Section Screen you have SubSection display for each Deep (colour) ..24, 16, 8 and normally tyou have a DefaultDeep X in your Screen section .... then you need to add the modes in your default deep subsection display .. |
| 03:35.00 | zood_ | EdLin, Okay yeah, your right |
| 03:35.02 | jtanoos | i keep on trying to understand linux in terms of dos |
| 03:35.09 | jtanoos | its like learning another language |
| 03:35.11 | jtanoos | and its horrible |
| 03:35.12 | jtanoos | hahaha |
| 03:35.13 | SerajewelKS | jtanoos: you could do 'ls | vim -' |
| 03:35.14 | zood_ | How about this, gunzip -c README.gz | less |
| 03:35.17 | karma | Holborn: On my xorg.conf your "Deep" is my "Depth" |
| 03:35.34 | Holborn | karma ops .. sorry my english is terrible :) |
| 03:35.41 | jtanoos | did i start some ideological debate over "| less |
| 03:35.43 | EdLin | or "view" which short point to vim (and if it doesn't, man update-alternatives) |
| 03:35.49 | karma | Holborn: And I have the "1024x768_85" set in the depth of 24, which is also my default |
| 03:35.50 | EdLin | s/point/cut |
| 03:35.51 | SerajewelKS | jtanoos: 'ls | vim' would send the output of 'ls' to vim as *keystrokes* 'vim -' tells vim you want to read a file from stdin. |
| 03:36.09 | karma | So I think that's fine... are you sure "1024x768_85" is correct? |
| 03:36.13 | zood_ | jtanoos, no, just that EdLin noticed that I'm a newb |
| 03:36.15 | godmachine81_ | apt-get dist-upgrade will just download all the upgradeable packages.. dselect upgrade will let you pick what you want to upgrade individually |
| 03:36.16 | jtanoos | seraj, thanks |
| 03:36.32 | jtanoos | hahah zood, you seem pretty high up there in the linux food chain |
| 03:36.38 | zood_ | lol |
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| 03:36.39 | Holborn | karma .. yes .. thats what nvidia says in the readme :) |
| 03:37.13 | jtanoos | zood, what distro do you run? |
| 03:37.13 | godmachine81 | beered: you must be a former ubuntu user, huh? |
| 03:37.15 | CompWizrd | zood_: what's wrong with zless README.gz? :) |
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| 03:37.17 | karma | Holborn: Hmm, well any idea why it's not working then? I don't even have the option of changing the refresh rate from 60Hz in KDE's Dektop configuration tool |
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| 03:37.36 | EdLin | zood_: using "less foo.txt" has an advantage - you can edit the text file with vi[m] by pressing "v" |
| 03:37.37 | beered | godmachine81: no, acutally I'm using debian exclusivley. |
| 03:37.44 | zood_ | CompWizrd, that's much better and I'll use it from now on ;) |
| 03:37.55 | CompWizrd | zgrep string README.gz works too |
| 03:37.57 | godmachine81 | beered: what other distributions have you used? |
| 03:37.57 | CompWizrd | for grep |
| 03:37.58 | zood_ | jtanoos, debian stable |
| 03:38.20 | jtanoos | zood, what about your gui? |
| 03:38.28 | zood_ | KDE |
| 03:38.29 | beered | godmachine81: Again, my testing is upgraded. I'm not upgrading from stable to testing. I already have updated testing. |
| 03:38.35 | jtanoos | whoa, you must have a pretty nice comp |
| 03:38.49 | gunixu | howdy all |
| 03:38.52 | zood_ | jtanoos, but I try to use the shell as much as possible just because it helps to learn |
| 03:38.58 | jtanoos | yeah that's true |
| 03:38.59 | gunixu | i'm trying to run a screen session and am receiving the following |
| 03:39.07 | gunixu | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/10' - please check. |
| 03:39.09 | jtanoos | zood, KDE looks so sick though |
| 03:39.22 | jtanoos | graphics are really eye opening |
| 03:39.45 | killown | do which better program for video edition? |
| 03:39.55 | jtanoos | my 500mhz/128mb can't even handle gnome comfortably |
| 03:40.08 | jtanoos | but i dont need much coolness on my desktop |
| 03:40.09 | jtanoos | hahah |
| 03:40.16 | jtanoos | a nice little penguin is fine |
| 03:40.25 | godmachine81 | beered: once again dist-upgrade isnt just used to upgrade from one release to the next.. its used to upgrade all packages that are upgradeable for your current release.. dist-upgrade requires sources.list changes to upgrade to a new release |
| 03:40.28 | CompWizrd | i still use icewm, it does everything i need(ctrl-alt-t for xterm) |
| 03:40.34 | jtanoos | yeah |
| 03:40.38 | jtanoos | those shortcuts are pretty nifty |
| 03:40.52 | beered | godmachine81: you aren't familiar with dselect. apt-get -u dselect-upgrade for more info. |
| 03:40.58 | CompWizrd | dual monitor setup on a pair of 20" trinitron monitors.. good for about 12 xterms open comfortablely |
| 03:40.59 | jtanoos | firefox is still a whale though, but i guess there's no way around that |
| 03:41.07 | beered | godmachine81: you aren't familiar with dselect. apt-get -u dselect-upgrade for more info...err... to see it in action. |
| 03:41.08 | jtanoos | hahaah whoa!!! 12 xterms? |
| 03:41.16 | godmachine81 | beered i am familiar with it |
| 03:41.21 | jtanoos | what are you doing? saving the world? |
| 03:41.28 | zood_ | jtanoos, you might check out fluxbox for your window manager |
| 03:41.33 | CompWizrd | i usually only have 4-5 open at once |
| 03:41.36 | jtanoos | yeah, i got fluxbox running |
| 03:41.43 | beered | godmachine81: you don't have to run it just with 'dselect' you can use it with apt-get. see example above. |
| 03:41.44 | jtanoos | everything's really smooth |
| 03:41.44 | godmachine81 | you are wanting to upgrade everything that is upgradeable arent ya? |
| 03:41.54 | jtanoos | i have yet to see it write to swap |
| 03:41.54 | godmachine81 | beered: i know that |
| 03:42.16 | beered | godmachine81: apt-get dselect-upgrade doesn't upgrade everything than? |
| 03:42.18 | Holborn | karma try to startx -- -logverbose 6 the see the mode validation ... |
| 03:42.37 | jtanoos | its like i finalyl got everything set up to how i like it (which took maybe 2 mos from installation until now) |
| 03:42.42 | jtanoos | and im kinda scared to touch anything now |
| 03:42.42 | jtanoos | hahah |
| 03:42.57 | jtanoos | i went through so many distros |
| 03:43.00 | jtanoos | it was nuts |
| 03:43.31 | godmachine81 | beered: it depends on the arguments you provide for it |
| 03:43.33 | EdLin | jtanoos: other distros don't have the quality assurence process that Debian has |
| 03:43.37 | zood_ | jtanoos, yah all those little settings are hard to backup and transfer from one comp to another |
| 03:43.39 | beered | godmachine81: let me try it your way. what is that package name you mentioned earlier? |
| 03:43.52 | jtanoos | knoppix, ubuntu, slackware, debian-straight install, back to knoppix, and finally settled on damn small linux |
| 03:44.06 | jtanoos | yeah, i couldnt figure out debian though |
| 03:44.12 | godmachine81 | apt-listbugs |
| 03:44.14 | jtanoos | its like the later kernels didnt support my hardware |
| 03:44.19 | EdLin | jtanoos: you're not using Debian? |
| 03:44.32 | jtanoos | i think DSL is based on debian, right? |
| 03:44.39 | beered | godmachine81: there is no package with that name in testing repos. |
| 03:44.42 | EdLin | !based on debian |
| 03:44.43 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 03:44.44 | godmachine81 | i dont think that apt-listbugs is in the repository for "etch/testing" |
| 03:44.51 | zood_ | Uh... oh..... ;P |
| 03:44.55 | jtanoos | hahaha |
| 03:45.03 | jtanoos | did i just start WW III? |
| 03:45.12 | jtanoos | yeah |
| 03:45.22 | EdLin | jtanoos: no, that's when GWB drops a tac nuke on Iran |
| 03:45.26 | jtanoos | i dont plan on installing anything except DSL packages |
| 03:45.30 | beered | godmachine81: if it's not there how it can be recommended way to maintain testing with upgradeS? |
| 03:45.31 | liable | !info apt-listbugs etch |
| 03:45.34 | godmachine81 | nah really nobody gives a shit what something is based on bc everything is based off of something else |
| 03:45.43 | jtanoos | the command dpkg scares the hell out of me |
| 03:46.04 | jtanoos | hahaha i remember messing aroudn with that |
| 03:46.08 | EdLin | jtanoos: don't plan on getting help here, if you're not running Debian. |
| 03:46.11 | zood_ | jtanoos, there's nothing simpler than `apt-get install foo` |
| 03:46.15 | godmachine81 | beered: it just is recommended but it hasnt been passed from unstable to testing yet |
| 03:46.19 | jtanoos | zood, yeah that's true |
| 03:46.27 | jtanoos | but somehow things stop running the same |
| 03:46.39 | liable | !why is apt-listbugs not in testing |
| 03:46.40 | dpkg | apt-listbugs is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=apt-listbugs |
| 03:46.46 | jtanoos | edlin, hahah i already asked my question, im just visiting now |
| 03:46.48 | jtanoos | i promise |
| 03:47.01 | beered | godmachine81: what's wrong with using apt-get update | apt-get dselect-update with testing? |
| 03:47.13 | jtanoos | my question had to do with unix which supercedes debian |
| 03:47.14 | jtanoos | hahaha |
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| 03:47.55 | EdLin | !damn small linux |
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| 03:48.01 | Ashex | hey |
| 03:48.06 | liable | hhah |
| 03:48.15 | Ashex | What are the default sound drivers loaded into debian? |
| 03:48.20 | Ashex | is it oss? |
| 03:48.33 | jtanoos | zood, did you find that debian detected all your hardware? |
| 03:48.34 | EdLin | Ashex: kernel 2.6.x includes ALSA |
| 03:48.38 | godmachine81 | beered: update will not download everything that is upgradeable |
| 03:48.39 | Ashex | hrm |
| 03:48.47 | Ashex | then why the deuce isn't alsaconf working :/ |
| 03:48.55 | liable | Ashex: if you have 2.4 kernel or havent installed alsa tools, yes |
| 03:49.01 | Ashex | I'll probably have to apt it then |
| 03:49.16 | godmachine81 | update just loads the package cache for changes |
| 03:49.21 | Ashex | I had sound working before I upgraded to a 2.6.x kernel |
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| 03:49.38 | beered | godmachine81: getlist-bugs isn't in testing, apt-get upgrade doesn't update everything... is there no way to upgrade testing than?? |
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| 03:49.51 | jtanoos | do you think a more recent debian kernel would run slower on an older machine? |
| 03:50.08 | EdLin | jtanoos: that depends upon the amount of RAM |
| 03:50.13 | liable | beered: man apt-get if you dont understand whats going on. or better, read the apt howto |
| 03:50.24 | godmachine81 | upgrade only downloads things that can be satisfied without installing other packages used to meet the dependency requirements |
| 03:50.28 | jtanoos | so if you have a low amt of RAM, you should stick with an older kernel? |
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| 03:50.35 | jtanoos | what are the benefits of upgrading a kernel? |
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| 03:50.39 | godmachine81 | apt-get dist-upgrade will install everything including new packages that are required.. |
| 03:50.41 | dhuv | hello all |
| 03:50.45 | heero | Hello |
| 03:50.51 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: more hardware support and usability |
| 03:50.57 | jtanoos | god, gotcha |
| 03:51.00 | heero | Anyone here has programming with C++ in GNU/Linux ? |
| 03:51.19 | jtanoos | yeah 2.6 ran so slow on my 500mhz/128mb |
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| 03:51.26 | heero | im trying to use sqrt function but, dont appers works because can't find math.h lib |
| 03:51.26 | godmachine81 | heero i doubt anyone will do your homework for ya man |
| 03:51.34 | dhuv | I am going to be installing debian on a dual xeon server, I know it will work with the regular x86 repository but I should be using the ia64 repository right? |
| 03:51.37 | beered | godmachine81: so I have to apt-get dist-upgrade every time I need to upgrade testing, and not just when upgrading from, eg, stable to testing? |
| 03:51.37 | Ashex | grr |
| 03:51.39 | EdLin | jtanoos: that's enough RAM |
| 03:51.43 | Ashex | I'm not sure how to configure OSS :/ |
| 03:51.44 | Ashex | !oss |
| 03:51.45 | dpkg | it has been said that oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 03:51.51 | EdLin | jtanoos: 2.6 *should* run faster. |
| 03:51.52 | heero | no no is for my homework godmachine81 is only for ask about this library .. |
| 03:51.53 | godmachine81 | right beered |
| 03:51.54 | foo | Bah. I am using audacity to record something. I was using the onboard mic and it worked fine ... I plugged in a mic, then tried again, and now the mic is unplugged ... so I am using the onboard, and it's still not working. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot this? |
| 03:51.58 | jtanoos | edlin, really? |
| 03:52.09 | beered | liable: I'm reading the darn thing right now. |
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| 03:52.21 | dhuv | if so, can I mix things from the x86 repository since I would want some packages from dotdeb which are only offered in i386 and amd64 |
| 03:52.22 | godmachine81 | heero: i didnt know, sounded like someone that didnt know how to do their homework assignment lol |
| 03:52.24 | Ashex | !alsa |
| 03:52.24 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist> |
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| 03:52.38 | jtanoos | edlin, if it installed gnome, even though i used fluxbox, would that still affect system performance? |
| 03:52.50 | heero | mm :P |
| 03:52.55 | EdLin | jtanoos: sure, you just need more RAM due to it needing more memory, but 128MB, assuming you don't burdon it with GNOME or KDE, should be enough |
| 03:53.06 | EdLin | jtanoos: well, GNOME does have some daemons |
| 03:53.17 | jtanoos | edlin, i think that's what happened on my install |
| 03:53.21 | WildPenguin | heero, use "cmath", iirc |
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| 03:53.34 | jtanoos | i got a ton of support, but a ton of sluggishness |
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| 03:53.44 | CompWizrd | dhuv: xeon isn't ia64 though.. amd64 is what you're looking for IIRC. ia64 is itanic, isn't it? |
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| 03:54.17 | jtanoos | i dream of the day being able to install a clean version of debian |
| 03:54.22 | dhuv | CompWizrd: wow, I hope that am64 would be what I am looking for. can somebody confirm for sure? |
| 03:54.27 | jtanoos | and configuring my system to my glee |
| 03:54.36 | nomasteryoda|w | lol |
| 03:54.39 | CompWizrd | x86_64 is the other name for amd64 |
| 03:54.42 | nomasteryoda|w | clean? |
| 03:54.45 | godmachine81 | CompWizrd: yea there is a difference in amd64 and ia64.. i have heard that standard pcs will not even boot the ia64 cd |
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| 03:54.55 | jtanoos | yeah, i feel totally lost in the installation |
| 03:54.56 | jtanoos | hahah |
| 03:55.05 | jtanoos | im okay with the hardware |
| 03:55.14 | jtanoos | just when it comes to packages and all that |
| 03:55.17 | dhuv | godmachine81: so amd64 would be the correct repository for xeon processors? |
| 03:55.21 | CompWizrd | i installed off a custom 2.6.15 disk a few weeks ago on a dual opteron 265... no major problems.. the 3ware card and the 4TB partition can be apain though :) |
| 03:55.31 | CompWizrd | is your xeon 64 bit? |
| 03:55.39 | gunixu | does anyone know how i'm able to run screen as a user and not as root? |
| 03:55.46 | dhuv | CompWizrd: yes it is 64 bit |
| 03:56.00 | jtanoos | it seems like either you get a piece of stale bread package or a vegas-style buffett package, but nothing in between |
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| 03:56.02 | gunixu | i've receiving Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/7' - please check. |
| 03:56.03 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: you need to install the desktop if you want GUI, and i mean who doesnt want a GUI unless they are running a server only, or unless they are just a big Geek that is too good to do things an easier way.. |
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| 03:56.25 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: after that you can use synaptic to get your new packages that you want |
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| 03:56.38 | godmachine81 | and it will satisfy the dependencies for you.. that is the easiest way to do it for a newbie |
| 03:56.42 | jtanoos | god, i tried that but got way more than i bargained for |
| 03:56.51 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: like what? |
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| 03:56.59 | jtanoos | gnome :( |
| 03:57.13 | godmachine81 | what did you want? |
| 03:57.16 | EdLin | godmachine81: selecting "desktop" is a bad idea |
| 03:57.27 | godmachine81 | kde / icewm / enlightenment? |
| 03:57.31 | zood_ | EdLin, I agree |
| 03:57.34 | EdLin | jtanoos: use "apt-get install x-window-core my-xterm my-wm |
| 03:57.44 | AzianFlu | kde might be the best bet at first... 8( |
| 03:57.46 | godmachine81 | i didnt mean in the menu options EdLin |
| 03:57.48 | jtanoos | wm is pretty light, huh? |
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| 03:58.17 | jtanoos | i read this one quote that inspired me to use debian |
| 03:58.18 | godmachine81 | i mean to do a base net install |
| 03:58.22 | jtanoos | do you guys mind if i quote it? |
| 03:58.27 | godmachine81 | and then do apt-get your desktop pref |
| 03:58.28 | EdLin | jtanoos: I've never ran "wm", my example names are made up |
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| 03:58.43 | EdLin | jtanoos: go ahead |
| 03:58.48 | godmachine81 | and from there he could do it from the desktop through synaptic to get going and learn |
| 03:59.17 | mombof | gunixu, not sure i dont rember having to use it as root |
| 03:59.19 | jtanoos | Newbie installs Debian/Linux and KDE because it's pretty, because it has programs that do things he doesn't know how to do, nor he wants to understand. Because EVERYBODY he knows uses KDE. |
| 03:59.29 | jtanoos | Newbie becomes radical, moves to GNOME, that's where is at, the articles he reads say so, maybe somebody he admires uses GNOME, etc. |
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| 03:59.38 | jtanoos | Newbie comes to the realization, the above mentioned are crap, all show and no speed. Newbie installs XFCE4, pretty, fast, light. Newbie becomes a revolutionary. |
| 03:59.45 | jtanoos | By now, he/she learned to use the CLI and finds out that: |
| 03:59.48 | dhuv | when I installed debian I installed the i386 version. does anybody know of a way to convert it to amd64? |
| 03:59.52 | jtanoos | ..dpkg -i + TAB + Enter |
| 03:59.59 | jtanoos | is faster than kpackage, and discovered he/she needs no icons on the taskbar with IceWM, because Ctrl + Alt + will give him/her an xterm, or Xchat or Mozilla, or OOo, or whatever he wants. |
| 04:00.03 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: your gonna be kicked man |
| 04:00.08 | jtanoos | sorry |
| 04:00.10 | jtanoos | i was quoting |
| 04:00.11 | jtanoos | :( |
| 04:00.13 | godmachine81 | i know |
| 04:00.16 | godmachine81 | but it was a "paste" |
| 04:00.19 | jtanoos | oh yeah |
| 04:00.20 | jtanoos | haha |
| 04:00.22 | CompWizrd | dhuv: far as i know, you can't convert |
| 04:00.22 | EdLin | jtanoos: you almost never need to use dpkg by itself, use apt-get |
| 04:00.24 | levander | Anybody got a recommendation for which apache file to put these directives to configure trac in? It'd work just in apache2.conf, but I wonder if that's the best place, organization-wise. |
| 04:00.24 | godmachine81 | ya cant paste large articles in IRC |
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| 04:00.27 | mombof | newbie uses kde cause he wants control, doesnt use gnome cause its aqua, and thus allows for no control |
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| 04:00.29 | CompWizrd | at least that's what i was told |
| 04:00.32 | godmachine81 | ya all forgive this guy he didnt know |
| 04:00.33 | godmachine81 | heh |
| 04:00.34 | dhuv | CompWizrd: thats fine, I can reinstall |
| 04:00.39 | jtanoos | well you can search for the rest |
| 04:00.45 | jtanoos | its awesome though |
| 04:00.45 | AzianFlu | jtanoos, how about a link instead? |
| 04:00.46 | jtanoos | hahahaha |
| 04:00.51 | CompWizrd | you'll want a 2.6.x kernel with amd64 for sure |
| 04:01.03 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: dpkg and dselect aren't used too much really |
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| 04:01.15 | godmachine81 | apt-get pretty much does everything you need it to |
| 04:01.18 | CompWizrd | i think i'm the only person that likes dselect |
| 04:01.20 | jtanoos | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220290&highlight=icewm |
| 04:01.26 | jtanoos | half way down the page |
| 04:01.29 | jtanoos | "macondo" |
| 04:01.30 | AzianFlu | thank you |
| 04:01.47 | jtanoos | i mean that was totally what got me into debian |
| 04:01.50 | godmachine81 | i like deselect to look through my stuff and see what all is there instead of doing it the geek way of doing apt-cache heh |
| 04:01.51 | EdLin | jtanoos: the whole point to Debian is apt-get. dpkg -i is for those few times when there's no repository. |
| 04:02.01 | EdLin | ...for a pacakge |
| 04:02.14 | EdLin | godmachine81: use aptitude for doing that |
| 04:02.15 | jtanoos | after reading some articles about how in redhat you have to figure out all your dependencies |
| 04:02.26 | jtanoos | i mean, who's got time to do that? |
| 04:02.34 | CompWizrd | i remember installing debian 2.1, and the scariest part was the first time dselect came up.. and you held down page down, and it scrolled and scrolled and scrolled and scrolled |
| 04:02.37 | zood_ | yah, what are "debian gurus" using for package management? apt-get? |
| 04:02.39 | CompWizrd | that was when i knew debian was what i was going to run forever |
| 04:02.41 | EdLin | jtanoos: you have to figure out your dependencies with "dpkg" too. Use apt |
| 04:02.42 | jtanoos | i dont know why anyone would mess around with redhat |
| 04:02.46 | foo | Hm, ok, I am getting a lot of static in the background when trying to record with audacity. Any ideas? |
| 04:03.02 | godmachine81 | yea thats what i was thinking EdLin |
| 04:03.07 | AzianFlu | jtanoos, i had to mess around with redhat... to download a different linux version 8) |
| 04:03.18 | jtanoos | hahah azian, be careful |
| 04:03.25 | godmachine81 | really i never use either one for anything have no reason to heh |
| 04:03.26 | jtanoos | you could be targetted around here for talk like that |
| 04:03.29 | killown | anyone know an program of video edition professional? |
| 04:03.33 | jtanoos | (hint:hint: edlin) |
| 04:03.49 | EdLin | zood_: if you *always* use aptitude so it's dependency handling is correct, using "aptitude install" etc is powerful |
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| 04:04.08 | jtanoos | apt-get install ~~ dependencies..then? |
| 04:04.13 | beered | v |
| 04:04.17 | beered | oops. |
| 04:04.28 | EdLin | jtanoos: yes |
| 04:04.28 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: what are you talking about man? |
| 04:04.43 | jtanoos | yeah, i dont know i just ramble |
| 04:04.44 | whacko | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.53 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 04:04.55 | godmachine81 | i do that some too |
| 04:05.08 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: you on dope ? |
| 04:05.09 | jtanoos | i think if i read more about installing packages |
| 04:05.10 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 04:05.12 | zood_ | EdLin, my problem with apt-get is that if I install something and then remove it, the dependencies are not removed. Does aptitude deal with this more gracefully? |
| 04:05.13 | bsdf | boners |
| 04:05.21 | jtanoos | and learning how more to hone my debian installation |
| 04:05.24 | jtanoos | i could probably get it down |
| 04:05.31 | mombof | zood_, otry deborphan |
| 04:05.33 | jtanoos | but the 2.4 kernel was such a thorn in my side |
| 04:05.34 | EdLin | zood_: that's precisely what it's for |
| 04:05.46 | jtanoos | and 2.6 was too bloated it seemed |
| 04:05.48 | jtanoos | i dont know |
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| 04:06.01 | zood_ | mombof, deborphan, AFIAK only works for libraries |
| 04:06.17 | jtanoos | but it was getting to the point where i was having to build kernels for my hardware |
| 04:06.23 | jtanoos | and i was pulling my hair out |
| 04:06.27 | CompWizrd | deborphan -a or something like that, you can use deborphan for non-libraries |
| 04:06.29 | jtanoos | b/c my pcmcia would light up |
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| 04:06.40 | mombof | zood_, thaks |
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| 04:06.46 | jtanoos | and before you know my addiction to debian was getting out of hand |
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| 04:06.50 | CompWizrd | Check all the packages, instead of only those in the libs sec- |
| 04:06.50 | CompWizrd | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.54 | godmachine81 | jtanoos: the more reading you do without just trying on your own the more confused you will be later on.. you have to try it out and mess up a time or two if your a newbie, and thats about the only real way to learn.. all the reading and man stuff, well thats just cuz ppl in irc chans really dont want to talk about stuff that is already documented |
| 04:06.56 | jtanoos | i stopped drink and socializing, it was awful |
| 04:07.13 | alpha255 | godmachine81 works for me :) |
| 04:07.16 | jtanoos | god, that's true, that's how i learned dos |
| 04:07.28 | jtanoos | but it seems like you can do way more damage with linux |
| 04:07.31 | alpha255 | godmachine81 just do the testing and goofups on a test machne :) |
| 04:07.33 | jtanoos | like blow things up |
| 04:07.36 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 04:07.45 | godmachine81 | well if you have important data you might lose it |
| 04:07.52 | jtanoos | i really started chomping my nails when my harddrive started having DMA timeouts |
| 04:07.53 | jtanoos | hahahah |
| 04:07.57 | godmachine81 | but your not going to do any harm to your physical stuff |
| 04:08.09 | EdLin | documentation is great if you are programming, though Linux man pages suck - probably the worst in the Unix world |
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| 04:08.17 | zood_ | EdlLin, but can I do `aptitude moo`? ;) |
| 04:08.26 | godmachine81 | EdLin: i agree with that 100% |
| 04:08.32 | EdLin | zood_: no |
| 04:08.36 | godmachine81 | haha |
| 04:08.38 | zood_ | Edlin, actually haha try it. |
| 04:08.47 | godmachine81 | it works doesnt it? |
| 04:08.48 | jtanoos | linux man is like trying to send a team of astronauts to the moon |
| 04:08.51 | jtanoos | hahahah |
| 04:08.55 | EdLin | zood_: yep :) |
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| 04:09.35 | zinx | well, I shouldn't say never. But it's certainly more than adequate. |
| 04:09.43 | zood_ | EdLin, even more props to aptitude for it's very professional attitude. I'll have to switch |
| 04:09.51 | godmachine81 | aptitude -v moo add a v each time like "aptitude -vv moo" |
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| 04:09.59 | godmachine81 | it will give ya diff msg each v |
| 04:09.59 | EdLin | zinx: glibc-doc is excellent - very good info page docs |
| 04:10.08 | zinx | and, if you aren't talking about the Linux Programmer's Manual manpages, what are you talking about? :D |
| 04:10.42 | zood_ | godmachine81: is that supposed to be a cat?? |
| 04:10.45 | EdLin | zinx: that's what I'm talking about. |
| 04:11.02 | godmachine81 | no |
| 04:11.09 | AzianFlu | zinx, is that a book? |
| 04:11.10 | godmachine81 | i cant remember what it is suppose to be |
| 04:11.10 | zood_ | godmachine81: lol |
| 04:11.11 | zinx | EdLin: *shrug*, i've always found it to be fine |
| 04:11.32 | zinx | AzianFlu: it's manpages-dev |
| 04:11.35 | godmachine81 | its something pretty stupid actually |
| 04:11.36 | zood_ | godmachine81: "What is it? It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course." |
| 04:11.36 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 04:11.45 | godmachine81 | yea thats it |
| 04:11.48 | zinx | EdLin: i never liked info |
| 04:11.54 | AzianFlu | ah |
| 04:12.16 | eggzeck | Error: [ 60.026486] Kernel panic - noy syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(0,0) |
| 04:12.18 | godmachine81 | i didnt even check it to see what it said it was zood_ |
| 04:12.18 | zood_ | well folks, have a good night |
| 04:12.22 | zood_ | !beer everybody |
| 04:12.24 | eggzeck | Anyone know anything about that? |
| 04:12.24 | godmachine81 | i figured id leave it to you |
| 04:12.26 | zinx | EdLin: even pinfo isn't that great a browser for it |
| 04:12.27 | jtanoos | wait zood |
| 04:12.34 | jtanoos | i have a question about windows 98 |
| 04:12.38 | jtanoos | hahahahah |
| 04:12.41 | jtanoos | get outta here! |
| 04:12.44 | jtanoos | have a good one |
| 04:12.45 | jtanoos | thanks man |
| 04:12.47 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 04:13.01 | godmachine81 | hes gone dude |
| 04:13.05 | godmachine81 | i beleive your on dope jtanoos |
| 04:13.12 | beered | anyone knows syntax or man page for 'edit clock format' options (%d %tt etc.) in fluxbox? |
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| 04:14.03 | EdLin | zinx: I'm not a fan of info either, but it's the best documentation of libc |
| 04:14.15 | EdLin | zinx: give it a try |
| 04:14.23 | zinx | EdLin: I use it when I have to. that's it. |
| 04:14.32 | zinx | EdLin: mainly for gcc documentation |
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| 04:15.10 | EdLin | zinx: I don't like info either, if it wasn't for glibc-doc and gawk docs I'd probably forget it. |
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| 04:18.59 | Mr_Mole3 | how do i enable php support on debian ? when i load something php it tries to download the file |
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| 04:19.32 | Peggerr | how do I display what my default route is set to |
| 04:19.58 | VITIHO_ | Hi all |
| 04:20.20 | keherman | is there a way to add a user to additional groups, but without resetting the existing group assignments? |
| 04:20.28 | VITIHO_ | is it possible to have different mac address on alias interface? |
| 04:20.35 | keherman | usermod seems to reset previous group entries |
| 04:21.26 | VITIHO_ | I'm using ucarp for high availability, problem is that when host switches ip address, mac address on router's arp cache is different, so basically it's dead... |
| 04:21.47 | mombof | Peggerr, route print maybe? not sure |
| 04:21.56 | gunixu | how can you tell what file libgthread-2.0 belongs to? |
| 04:23.01 | dondelelcaro | keherman: adduser user group; man adduser. |
| 04:23.05 | alpha255 | gunixu that might be an option w/dpgk |
| 04:23.20 | VITIHO_ | anyone? |
| 04:23.39 | alpha255 | on rpm it's rpm -qfil somelib.lib |
| 04:23.40 | keherman | dondelelcaro, the user already exists |
| 04:23.41 | dhuv | thanks for the help guys, talk to you later |
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| 04:23.44 | Halitherses | how can you tell wput which username and pw to use? |
| 04:23.52 | alpha255 | gota be one for dpkg |
| 04:24.00 | Halitherses | !wput |
| 04:24.33 | keherman | dondelelcaro, if the user exists, you can't add them again -- and usermod doesn't keep old assignment! |
| 04:24.55 | dondelelcaro | keherman: so? |
| 04:25.12 | dondelelcaro | keherman: did I say anything about adding a new user or using usermod? |
| 04:25.21 | keherman | dondelelcaro, i want to make a user in a new group, but i dont necessarily care what groups they were in before |
| 04:25.32 | dondelelcaro | keherman: yes, so adduser user group; man adduser; for details. |
| 04:25.38 | keherman | dondelelcaro, yes, i want to add an existing user to a new group -- keeping the old groups assigned |
| 04:25.57 | dondelelcaro | keherman: that command does that. You need to Read the Manual. |
| 04:26.13 | dondelelcaro | clearly I woudln't be telling you the command if that wasn't what the command did |
| 04:26.31 | keherman | dondelelcaro, the user is the final argument |
| 04:26.39 | dondelelcaro | keherman: no, it's not. |
| 04:26.47 | alpha255 | dpkg -c | --contents filename |
| 04:26.48 | dpkg | drwxr-xr-x root/root 6889 2004-4-28 21:49:52 ./usr/share/| --contents filename/pr0n/goatse.cx.xpm |
| 04:27.02 | alpha255 | lists out the contents of the db pkg |
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| 04:28.54 | keherman | /usr/sbin/adduser keherman slocate -> |
| 04:28.54 | keherman | usage: ... |
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| 04:29.24 | keherman | dondelelcaro, /usr/sbin/adduser keherman -G slocate -> adduser: user keherman exists |
| 04:29.35 | dondelelcaro | keherman: did I say use a -G option? |
| 04:29.40 | keherman | i tried without dude |
| 04:29.43 | dondelelcaro | no, I don't think I did. |
| 04:29.45 | keherman | doesnt even run |
| 04:29.53 | keherman | gives usage error |
| 04:29.54 | dondelelcaro | sudo adduser keherman slocate; |
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| 04:30.11 | keherman | dondelelcaro, fails! |
| 04:30.20 | dondelelcaro | keherman: with what error? |
| 04:30.22 | keherman | dondelelcaro, i am root |
| 04:30.36 | keherman | dondelelcaro, usage: ... |
| 04:30.55 | dondelelcaro | keherman: uh... what version of adduser are you using? |
| 04:31.00 | keherman | dondelelcaro, since what version did this exist? |
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| 04:31.24 | dondelelcaro | keherman: for ages, but you may not be using the version that Debian distributes if it's giving you a usage error. |
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| 04:31.47 | keherman | dondelelcaro, fsck! this is damn RH machine :-( |
| 04:31.54 | keherman | dondelelcaro, my bad! |
| 04:31.58 | michal_ | hi. does anyone know what kernel patch i need to go from 2.6.15 to 2.6.15.1 ? i can't seem to find one |
| 04:31.58 | dondelelcaro | keherman: this is #debian, NOT #redhat. |
| 04:32.01 | keherman | lol |
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| 04:32.49 | michal_ | i can only find one to go directly to 2.6.16 or from 2.6.15.1 to 2.6.15.2 .. but nothing to actually get to 2.6.15.2 |
| 04:32.58 | michal_ | 2.6.15.1 rather |
| 04:33.07 | gunixu | alpha255: what if it's not an installed package? |
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| 04:33.59 | alpha255 | gunixu from tar or built from source? |
| 04:34.00 | dondelelcaro | michal_: ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/patch-2.6.15.1.gz ? |
| 04:34.16 | gunixu | alpha255: i would imagine from a tar or .deb package. |
| 04:34.22 | michal_ | argh.. i was looking in the incr directory :/ |
| 04:34.23 | michal_ | thanks |
| 04:34.47 | gunixu | basically i'm looking for libgthread-2.0.so |
| 04:34.55 | gunixu | however i can't find the package linked to this file. |
| 04:35.00 | dondelelcaro | !+find libgthread-2.0 |
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| 04:35.01 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 04:35.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libgthread-2.0' (3): (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.1000.2) in libdevel/libglib2.0-0-dbg ;; (/usr/lib/{libgthread-2.0.so.0|libgthread-2.0.so.0.1000.2}) in libs/libglib2.0-0 ;; (/usr/lib/{libgthread-2.0.a|libgthread-2.0.la|libgthread-2.0.so}) in libdevel/libglib2.0-dev. |
| 04:35.21 | dondelelcaro | !tell gunixu -about search |
| 04:35.39 | gunixu | dondelelcaro: i know apt-cache search filename |
| 04:35.41 | gunixu | however |
| 04:35.55 | gunixu | does it go one more and search for files included in a package? |
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| 04:36.21 | dondelelcaro | gunixu: no, it does not. Read all of what dpkg told you and receive enlightenment |
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| 04:36.33 | alpha255 | dpkg -L | --listfiles package |
| 04:36.33 | dpkg | No packages found matching | --listfiles package |
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| 04:37.06 | dondelelcaro | alpha255: that only lists the contents of packages; -S is what searches, but it's only for installed packages. apt-file or pdo is the right thing to use. |
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| 04:37.30 | alpha255 | dondelelcaro ahh, that's what I was looking for |
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| 04:37.35 | alpha255 | thnx :) |
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| 04:40.33 | i3dmaster | what cmd is able to show the screen resolution? |
| 04:41.13 | mombof | what gui are u using |
| 04:41.37 | Eclipser | i3dmaster, xdpyinfo | grep dimension |
| 04:42.09 | i3dmaster | Eclipser, very nice! thanks much! |
| 04:43.11 | i3dmaster | Eclipser, well one more, do you know if there is a cmd can tell what the current wm is? |
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| 04:44.37 | EdLin | !u |
| 04:44.37 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 04:48.57 | superlinux | to all arab Linux fans open this http://www.aitnews.com/index.php?option=newsDetails&nid=2149 |
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| 04:49.41 | guess2 | how do you completely uninstall gnome including its games, apps, office, etc? |
| 04:50.00 | superlinux | guess2, you mean at once? |
| 04:50.06 | guess2 | sure |
| 04:50.15 | superlinux | well I don't think so |
| 04:50.37 | evilgeek | tell aptitude to remove some critical library. |
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| 04:50.43 | alpha255 | can apptitude do that? |
| 04:50.46 | i3dmaster | guess2, debfoster might help |
| 04:51.10 | evilgeek | yes. |
| 04:51.14 | superlinux | evilgeek, well I don't agree with that opinion |
| 04:51.22 | evilgeek | why not? |
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| 04:51.32 | superlinux | the better is to leav libraries |
| 04:51.34 | evilgeek | (by "critical", i obviously mean "critical to gnome".) |
| 04:51.45 | superlinux | cos you want some aps |
| 04:51.51 | evilgeek | fine, then reinstall the library afterward. |
| 04:51.52 | superlinux | but not the desktop |
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| 04:52.01 | evilgeek | no, dude, he wants to "completely uninstall gnome". |
| 04:52.04 | superlinux | well ok! |
| 04:52.11 | evilgeek | YOU might want some apps. he wants to completely uninstall gnome. |
| 04:52.29 | superlinux | no I mean other apps |
| 04:52.33 | meeps | Hello there dont spose anybody knows where i can find the cramfs magic patch for 2.4.26 sarge kernels |
| 04:52.36 | superlinux | not basic apps |
| 04:52.45 | guess2 | i mean, like i use fluxbox, i can still see gnome's apps |
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| 04:52.51 | meeps | Im compiling a kernel without using initrd to avoid this problem, but i get VFS failure, so i need initrd ;-) any help appreciated! :D |
| 04:53.20 | meeps | im also happy to use a different filesystem in mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf :D |
| 04:53.43 | superlinux | guess2, you mean total anihilation of gnome? |
| 04:53.59 | frederickb | evaded: what was the link for that article you made for dumping video on the internet |
| 04:54.03 | shogunx | it should be called gnomeicide |
| 04:54.25 | superlinux | guess2, if so do as evilgeek says |
| 04:55.10 | guess2 | well, im sayin, i think debian is nothing without gnome |
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| 04:55.29 | superlinux | true |
| 04:55.41 | meeps | hmm |
| 04:56.02 | superlinux | but do as he says , and reinstall nessecery librarys |
| 04:56.14 | meeps | MKIMAGE='mkcramfs %s %s > /dev/null' |
| 04:56.23 | meeps | can i change mkcramfs to something else to avoid magic cramfs problems |
| 04:56.33 | meeps | i removed initrd which solved this, now i get VFS failure :) |
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| 04:59.49 | meeps | sigh :( |
| 04:59.58 | Tommy | yeah im going to sigh too |
| 05:00.00 | Tommy | :P |
| 05:00.06 | Tommy | its what all the cool cats do |
| 05:00.06 | frederickb | Does someone know how to correctly play WMV movies from the internet |
| 05:00.07 | Tommy | :) |
| 05:00.16 | frederickb | streaming |
| 05:00.28 | alpha255 | mplayer or zine |
| 05:01.01 | guess2 | for example, KDE, i don't need this shit, why is it installed? |
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| 05:01.28 | alpha255 | guess2 did you select it during install? |
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| 05:01.35 | frederickb | alpha255: i have tried many different players they don't seem to work |
| 05:02.04 | frederickb | alpha255: http://ilectures.uwa.edu.au/ilectures/ilectures.lasso?ut=247 if you can get one of these standard broadband videos to work tell me |
| 05:02.09 | guess2 | i selected desktop |
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| 05:02.28 | Tommy | just uninstall it |
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| 05:03.11 | guess2 | but, will it affect my system performance if i remove kde? |
| 05:03.20 | guess2 | like its Network Tools, etc |
| 05:03.29 | Coweater | guess2: /msg dpkg remove kde and /msg dpkg remove gnome |
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| 05:04.10 | Coweater | performance should be unnaffected, you will gain free space |
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| 05:06.20 | meeps | pls could somebody point me in the correct direction for debian patches for cramfs (initrd) for earlier distributions like 2.4.26 |
| 05:06.23 | guess2 | After unpacking 305MB disk space will be freed. |
| 05:06.24 | meeps | im aware the problem is fixed in 2.6 |
| 05:06.28 | guess2 | this is KDE |
| 05:06.47 | alpha255 | frederickb looks like that site might be using a avi file format that can't be redistributed |
| 05:06.47 | guess2 | i never used KDE, so its safe to remove this garbage? |
| 05:06.57 | guess2 | ill keep gnome though |
| 05:06.57 | guess2 | :D |
| 05:07.18 | alpha255 | frederickb i'm sure there is a deb repository that has codecs for quicktime,real and ms avi |
| 05:07.37 | Tommy | yeah gnome all the way |
| 05:07.53 | guess2 | word ^^ |
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| 05:08.24 | guess2 | removing kde now |
| 05:08.49 | meeps | initrd-tools generates an initrd with mkcramfs that apparantly requires |
| 05:08.50 | meeps | a non-standard kernel patch in order to run. This makes it very |
| 05:08.50 | meeps | difficult to mix & match debian and non-debian kernels, since kernel |
| 05:08.50 | meeps | packages from pristine source will fail to load an initrd. initrd-tools |
| 05:08.50 | meeps | should use a different filesystem that will work with standard kernel |
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| 05:09.09 | meeps | sorry :< |
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| 05:10.15 | guess2 | and why their packages start with 'k'? |
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| 05:20.37 | spfdz | how do you install the win32codecs on debian? |
| 05:21.52 | Coweater | !marillat |
| 05:21.53 | dpkg | marillat is probably an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add. If you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>. For specific sources.list lines, ask me about <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 05:22.21 | Coweater | spfdz: they have it |
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| 05:32.53 | meneg | hi, any fast fix on the current kdm->kde crash on sid? |
| 05:33.18 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:33.18 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:33.55 | cheal | meneg: ask #debian-kde |
| 05:34.27 | meneg | k |
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| 05:36.38 | guess2 | is there any way to install kernel 2.6.16.13 ? |
| 05:37.06 | guess2 | im worryin about nvidia |
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| 05:37.58 | cheal | guess2: hum, yes |
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| 05:38.02 | guess2 | ? |
| 05:38.09 | guess2 | !yes |
| 05:38.09 | dpkg | really??? wohoo! |
| 05:38.13 | karma | IS there an package containing an application to read comics (CBR/CBZ files?) |
| 05:38.24 | jm_ | CBS are RAR files |
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| 05:38.32 | jm_ | CBR even |
| 05:39.42 | Solet_mod | how do i share a directory on a linux machine accross a netowrk of linux and windows machines so htat i can backup up information on the first machine? |
| 05:39.44 | karma | jm_ Right, well I was wondering if there was an equivilant of CDiplay for a GNU/Linux system to read CBR/CBZ files |
| 05:39.45 | meneg | any idea how to debug a kdm->kde crash? xorg's log doesn't say much. |
| 05:40.12 | dli | meneg, not again :( it's kde and sid |
| 05:40.31 | meneg | dli: is kde unsupported? |
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| 05:40.40 | meneg | is this ubuntu? |
| 05:40.46 | Eclipser | !ubuntu |
| 05:40.47 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 05:41.24 | meneg | (basically there are very few people in that channel) |
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| 05:42.34 | spowers_ | can anyone reccomend a good resource for info about configuring mutt? |
| 05:42.40 | therock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.51 | dli | meneg, what do you expect, when you do "sid" |
| 05:43.41 | meeps | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-om1/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-core.o |
| 05:43.45 | meeps | not good :< |
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| 05:44.14 | meeps | Can anyone point me in the right direction ? wrongly included fs modules? or ide modules? |
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| 05:44.31 | dli | meeps, upgrade your kernel :( |
| 05:44.35 | meeps | i cant |
| 05:44.37 | meeps | its om |
| 05:44.43 | meeps | :( |
| 05:45.24 | meeps | i wonder if i can use the .26 patch to patch .27 |
| 05:45.44 | cheal | meneg: this is not Ubuntu, and there are not very few people in that channel |
| 05:45.49 | meeps | managed to get rid of the magicfs problem :) |
| 05:45.54 | meeps | huh ubuntu?? |
| 05:45.59 | meeps | im using debian thanks. |
| 05:46.13 | meeps | lol |
| 05:46.22 | dli | meeps, recompile your kernel |
| 05:46.31 | meeps | thats what im doing... |
| 05:46.35 | meeps | compiling a kernel :) |
| 05:47.32 | dli | meeps, how brainless to put ide-core as module? |
| 05:47.42 | meeps | well yes |
| 05:47.49 | meeps | fixed it now |
| 05:48.02 | meeps | whats strange is that ide-core as a module works fine in .27 |
| 05:48.08 | meeps | as im using a reference .config |
| 05:48.13 | meeps | ive had to, because of the trouble ive had before, |
| 05:48.21 | meeps | this is the uhhm 20th compile for openmosix or so :) |
| 05:48.36 | meeps | anyway thx, :) i see where ive gone wrong |
| 05:48.45 | meeps | muchly appreciated |
| 05:48.53 | jm_ | karma: yes |
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| 05:49.40 | meneg | cheal: 42, compared to 700 plus here.. |
| 05:49.52 | aFlag | how do I get the core dumped when a program segfaults? |
| 05:49.58 | meneg | i know 42 is a magic number, but still nobody answered anything yet |
| 05:50.07 | aFlag | i've already done ulimit -c unlimited |
| 05:50.08 | karma | jm_ Is there a program you know of then? |
| 05:50.17 | aFlag | but I get nothing :( |
| 05:50.31 | karma | jm_ or do I really have to unrar each cbr I have and load them up in an image viewer to look at each page individually? |
| 05:50.32 | meeps | <cheal> meneg: this is not Ubuntu, and there are not very few people in that channel < -- still tho dli im not quite this brainless :) |
| 05:50.34 | meeps | hehheheh |
| 05:50.34 | therock | E: This installation run will require emporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends oop. This is often bad, but if you re ally want to do it, activate the PT::Force-LoopBreak option. E: Internal rror, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 05:50.38 | therock | any solution for this? |
| 05:50.56 | meeps | oh wait, YES I AM :D |
| 05:50.57 | meeps | lmao :P |
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| 05:51.20 | jm_ | karma: there's an app on freshmeat, don't remember the name off top of my head |
| 05:51.31 | dli | meeps, yes, running openmosix on sid, this is more than brainless, it's insane |
| 05:51.31 | nite613 | what's the opposite of basename? |
| 05:51.37 | cheal | meneg: #debian-kde is about a small part of Debian. of course you can't expect hundreds of people there. |
| 05:51.49 | nite613 | nvm, really stupid question |
| 05:51.50 | meeps | lol |
| 05:51.59 | meeps | why not just ask in #kde :) |
| 05:52.00 | therock | !force |
| 05:52.01 | meeps | heh |
| 05:52.01 | dpkg | force is, like, weak with me today |
| 05:52.10 | therock | !force-loopbreak |
| 05:52.10 | dpkg | 'apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade'. Fix suggested by xk. Then you can remove or purge outdated packages after the upgrade. if you are getting this message about e2fsproogs, ask me about <e2fsprogs loop> |
| 05:52.16 | cheal | meneg: you didn't ask any question. do you seriously expect an answer? |
| 05:52.24 | meeps | lol cheal :) |
| 05:52.32 | jm_ | aFlag: then try setting the value, say 1000000 |
| 05:52.39 | meeps | Thanks for your help lads. |
| 05:53.13 | therock | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 05:53.14 | dpkg | well, e2fsprogs loop is you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian etch or sid which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:53.32 | aFlag | jm_, no lucky, I'm using sarge with the stock kernel, maybe I have to set something on /proc? |
| 05:54.20 | drdick | what is wrong with x11-common? there is no more /etc/X11/Xsession file after updating the package |
| 05:54.35 | jm_ | aFlag: not really, just setting ulimit is enough |
| 05:54.47 | aFlag | weird |
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| 05:55.02 | meneg | cheal: i did |
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| 05:55.54 | meneg | anyway, what's the point of this conversation |
| 05:56.08 | cheal | meneg: hum, I am on #debian-kde. in english, questions take question marks |
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| 06:01.45 | drdick | the Xsession file is in the x11-common package but somehow it seems to rm it after installing the package o_O |
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| 06:04.00 | drdick | wtf it has been renamed to Xsession.xfree86 |
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| 06:09.51 | meeps | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-om1/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-core.o |
| 06:09.57 | meeps | ;( i definately compiled ide-core :< |
| 06:10.02 | meeps | dohs |
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| 06:11.36 | dli | meeps, I can fix this problem in 30 minutes for you |
| 06:11.38 | Trent | im configuring the X server, im up to my mouse input settings, should it be /dev/input/mouse or somthing else? |
| 06:11.47 | meeps | dli Well thats very generous of you :) |
| 06:11.55 | meeps | I guess all i need to know is the var in .config for it |
| 06:11.59 | unix_infidel | Trent: sounds about right, ddpends on your distro. |
| 06:12.01 | unix_infidel | :P |
| 06:12.02 | meeps | to check its set to y and not m, etc |
| 06:12.19 | dli | meeps, because I see it's hopeless to simply let you struggle there |
| 06:12.26 | meeps | heh dli :< |
| 06:12.27 | unix_infidel | Trent: if you dont know how to configure xorg do you really thing debian is for you? |
| 06:12.32 | meeps | well heh :< probably. |
| 06:12.32 | jm_ | Trent: which kernel are you using? |
| 06:12.40 | Trent | 2.6 |
| 06:12.47 | dli | meeps, however, I can not work with sid |
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| 06:12.49 | jm_ | then use /dev/input/mice |
| 06:12.54 | meeps | im using sarge :) |
| 06:12.59 | meeps | hehe |
| 06:13.05 | cheal | unix_infidel: uh? |
| 06:13.08 | dli | meeps, pm me |
| 06:13.11 | meeps | thanks dli |
| 06:13.21 | unix_infidel | anyone had etch crap out after apt-get upgrade. |
| 06:13.33 | unix_infidel | cheal: ? |
| 06:13.51 | meeps | let me just register this nick :P |
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| 06:14.00 | cheal | unix_infidel: I suppose you knew how to configure X when you started using GNU/Linux? |
| 06:14.15 | unix_infidel | cheal: nope, i said debian, not linux. |
| 06:15.36 | cheal | unix_infidel: right. so people should start using GNU/Linux using a distro other than Debian? is that because there are people like you in this channel, or am I missing a good reason? |
| 06:16.31 | unix_infidel | cheal: i didnt start off with debian. I'm simply saying, debian might not be the best fit for the user who hasnt quite learned how to configure the ins and outs of X11 |
| 06:16.53 | itguy | what do i need to know or if there is a gudie, i want to connect my Cable modem to debian box thru rj45 then another rj45 from debian box connect to a linksys wireless router, so i can use an xp box wireless..can i do that, thank in advance |
| 06:17.09 | Trent | whats the most graphical X for testing? |
| 06:17.16 | cheal | unix_infidel: please keep your opinions on the matter for yourself. at least, they're inappropriate here |
| 06:17.48 | cheal | Trent: what does "most graphical X" mean? |
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| 06:18.03 | unix_infidel | itguy: sure you can. |
| 06:18.13 | unix_infidel | cheal: you have a wrt54g around? |
| 06:18.20 | unix_infidel | erm, itguy sry. |
| 06:18.21 | cheal | unix_infidel: yes... |
| 06:18.30 | Trent | cheal: like fluxbox.. im looking for something above it for testing with more features |
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| 06:20.01 | itguy | unix_infidel: how can i do this please? |
| 06:20.06 | itguy | i am n00be |
| 06:20.17 | unix_infidel | itguy: i just asked you if you had a linksys wrt54g lying around. |
| 06:20.23 | cheal | Trent: "above it" meaning better? that's a question that has no answer true for most cases, but you may want to try GNOME or KDE |
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| 06:20.39 | Trent | cheal: i dont think KDE/GNOME are stable for testing? |
| 06:20.53 | unix_infidel | Trent: testing isnt inherently stable enough to be stable. |
| 06:21.01 | cheal | Trent: what do you mean by "stable for testing"? |
| 06:21.20 | itguy | unix_infidel: no i have befw11s4 |
| 06:22.02 | unix_infidel | itguy: so you are trying to connect a xbox to a wireless router? |
| 06:22.11 | unix_infidel | by using a debian box as a gateway? |
| 06:22.17 | Trent | cheal: i get these errors when trying to install/download kde.. "some packages could not be installed this mean that you have to requested an impossible sutoation or if you are using the unstable distro tha |
| 06:22.46 | cheal | Trent: your message is truncated |
| 06:22.57 | Trent | cheal: truncated? |
| 06:23.12 | cheal | Trent: it stops at "distro tha" |
| 06:23.43 | Trent | cheal: that some requirted packages have not yet been created or been moved of incoming |
| 06:24.03 | deadcat | why is xfree86-common being installed in unstable when i dist-upgrade? |
| 06:24.05 | cheal | !tell Trent about bat |
| 06:24.49 | jm_ | deadcat: because some packages depend on it, it's a transitional package |
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| 06:25.10 | deadcat | jm_: ok. should i just ignore the dist-upgrade and wait for go with it now? |
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| 06:25.43 | deadcat | by the way. glxgears not showing fps. what option do i need? no man page here. |
| 06:25.51 | Ashex | I finally got my sound working by getting the alsa drivers. |
| 06:26.02 | superlinux | hey do ye like som'one uses scottish in chattin'? |
| 06:26.05 | Ashex | However whenever I try to play some audio, the sound has this irritating buzz with it |
| 06:26.17 | dli | jm_ why some package in sid still depends on xfree86? |
| 06:26.26 | jm_ | deadcat: just install the package, it doesn't contain any files anyway (other than $docdir stuff) |
| 06:26.30 | Ashex | and I can't adjust the volume or anything because the volume manager reports that their no device |
| 06:26.32 | deadcat | k |
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| 06:26.57 | Ashex | any ideas as to what may be causing this? |
| 06:27.09 | jm_ | dli: it always takes time to complete such big transitions as this, bugs have probably been filed already against such packages |
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| 06:28.14 | dli | jm_, I thought you can make some tool to auto modify all deps on xfree86 to xorg |
| 06:28.45 | Trent | cheal: maybe because i havnt ran dist-upgrade yet? that could be the problem? |
| 06:28.49 | jm_ | dli: it's mostly done automatic anyway |
| 06:29.02 | jm_ | dli: i.e. dh_shlibdeps |
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| 06:29.32 | dli | jm_ i see |
| 06:29.41 | itguy | unix_infidel: hmmm, my setup now is : cable modem to linksys wireless router, i have 2 win box and 1 lapy(debian this one i am chatting on now) |
| 06:29.53 | cheal | Trent: possibly. otherwise, we'll need to know which command triggers that, and its full output |
| 06:29.55 | krassy1809 | What i must type in apt sources list to do upgrade on my debian stable to - testing , non-US , non-free ? |
| 06:30.10 | Trent | cheal: alright |
| 06:30.10 | cheal | !tell krassy1809 about sarge->etch |
| 06:30.18 | cheal | !tell krassy1809 about non-us |
| 06:30.22 | jm_ | although that probably doesn't apply in the case of xfree86-common, I think it's just there for upgrade purposes and can be removed later, not using sid so I don't know more details |
| 06:30.31 | Trent | cheal: im just running apt-get install kde |
| 06:30.31 | Halitherses | what does this error mean? : /etc/cron.daily/dzbul: run-parts: failed to exec /etc/cron.daily/dzbul: Exec format error: my daily cron job just ran |
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| 06:30.42 | jm_ | krassy1809: stable doesn't have non-us for quite some time |
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| 06:30.59 | cheal | Trent: ok. then update and paste the full output if it still fails |
| 06:31.08 | Trent | cheal: alright will do |
| 06:31.48 | itguy | unix_infidel: what i want to do is to setup debian as a server on one of the win boxes |
| 06:33.04 | itguy | unix_infidel: so cable modem will go direct to debian box and from debian to the wireless router, that way i can connect wirelessly from my win lapy |
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| 06:49.00 | ming | help |
| 06:49.45 | deadcat | out of service |
| 06:49.49 | meeps | hehheh |
| 06:50.20 | ming | haha |
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| 06:53.26 | apenguinlinux | hi when i m installing usign apt i m getting this error " at-spi: Depends: libgail-common (>= 1.6.6) but it is not going to be installed |
| 06:53.27 | apenguinlinux | " |
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| 06:53.39 | apenguinlinux | how wil i solve it |
| 06:54.32 | cheal | apenguinlinux: which release do you use? try installing libgail-common |
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| 06:55.59 | apenguinlinux | cheal, same eror when i m doing with libgail-common ?? |
| 06:56.23 | cheal | apenguinlinux: really? |
| 06:57.09 | Xteven | what package are manpages of strncpy and other libc functions hiding in ? |
| 06:57.33 | Xteven | doh |
| 06:57.35 | Xteven | manpages-dev |
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| 07:00.21 | dorel__ | i've installed nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-2.6.16-1-686 - i see its loading the nvidia driver, i have /dev/nvidia0 and /dev/nvidiactl and lsmod shows nvidia BUT nvtv complains about "Fatal: No supported video card found" |
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| 07:05.05 | kombi | how do you enable php in apache-ssl? apache-modconf apache-ssl libphp5 doesn't seem to do it..? |
| 07:05.44 | iddy | Quick question: When i boot up using the debian cd, it says "Uncompressing Linux..." followed by crc error |
| 07:05.53 | iddy | bad memory or bad cd? |
| 07:06.28 | kombi | I'd say bad memory, can you check with another bootable cd? |
| 07:07.14 | Churrilla | gatillazoooooooooooooooooo |
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| 07:09.20 | xomhau | hi all , how to clean hyperlink in openoffice ( writer )? |
| 07:09.29 | Trent | cheal: it worked fine once i updated. :) |
| 07:09.59 | cheal | Trent: nice :) |
| 07:10.16 | Trent | cheal : i keep getting these errors when updating W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.debian.org testing/testing/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_testing_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 07:10.16 | Trent | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 07:10.16 | Trent | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.41 | Trent | cheal: at the end of each download/update |
| 07:10.46 | cheal | Trent: "testing/testing/main" certainly an extra testing there |
| 07:11.08 | Trent | cheal: kk hold on ill try it |
| 07:11.47 | Trent | cheal: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/testing main |
| 07:11.47 | Trent | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:11.57 | liable | no |
| 07:12.11 | cheal | Trent: you don't need that line anyway. testing security isn't handled by security.d.o |
| 07:12.30 | Trent | cheal: how do i update testing security? |
| 07:12.40 | cheal | !tell Trent about testing security |
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| 07:16.55 | superlinux | how can I setup PREROUTING to let DCC send files? |
| 07:17.08 | superlinux | what should be the ports? |
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| 07:17.40 | superlinux | in IRC of course |
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| 07:19.14 | kombi | why would apache-modconf apache-ssl enable libphp5 not work? works fine in the non-ssl apache, other modules like mod_status can nicely be removed and enabled.. strange.. |
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| 07:23.01 | jm_ | superlinux: you don't need to, there already is a module for it |
| 07:23.16 | superlinux | which is? |
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| 07:23.46 | superlinux | jm_, which is? |
| 07:25.29 | jm_ | superlinux: ip_conntrack_irc or somesuch |
| 07:25.44 | superlinux | lemme see |
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| 07:26.15 | simonrvn | kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_irc.ko |
| 07:26.22 | kombi | anyone ever got php to work in apache-ssl? |
| 07:26.54 | superlinux | jm_, yes that it |
| 07:27.16 | adnan | help me stepbystep configuring eth0 |
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| 07:27.56 | kombi | adnan: ifconfig eth0 ip-address up |
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| 07:29.12 | adnan | ok, but if i use PING to another PC still unreachable host |
| 07:29.17 | wsjunior | is there torrent for sid somewhere? |
| 07:29.47 | kombi | adnan: ping localhost work? |
| 07:29.57 | Eclipser | wsjunior, no |
| 07:30.03 | adnan | ping localhost is work |
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| 07:30.15 | wsjunior | Eclipser, so i have to download the testing and upgrade? |
| 07:30.20 | Eclipser | yes |
| 07:30.28 | wsjunior | Eclipser, k thanks. |
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| 07:31.16 | randey | how to know the gcc version used for compiling the vmlinuz |
| 07:31.24 | jm_ | randey: /proc/version |
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| 07:31.46 | randey | jm_ : Thanks |
| 07:32.41 | Trent | what do i need to enter to /etc/apt/sources.list to get testing security updates? |
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| 07:33.09 | sep | !testing security |
| 07:33.10 | dpkg | well, testing security is Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/ , but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ , ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key> |
| 07:33.24 | wsjunior | Eclipser, should i download it from there? -> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 07:34.09 | wsjunior | Eclipser, which ones should i download for a basic installation with gnome? just the first and second one? |
| 07:34.25 | Eclipser | netinstall is the smallest and best option |
| 07:35.26 | wsjunior | Eclipser, where exacly could i get more info about it? |
| 07:35.46 | jm_ | !tell wsjunior -about cd contents |
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| 07:36.14 | Trent | im entering deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free into /etc/apt/sources.list is it right? |
| 07:36.22 | litage | do i have to reboot my debian box if i make modifications to /etc/security/limits.conf ? |
| 07:36.57 | jm_ | litage: no |
| 07:37.03 | litage | thanks jm_ |
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| 07:37.40 | sep | Trent, read on http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ as the factoid said |
| 07:38.49 | Edward_TLS | so still no luck getting debian installed on a new AMD system.. :( |
| 07:39.03 | Edward_TLS | no marvell drivers for sarge... |
| 07:39.14 | jm_ | use 2.6.15 kernel |
| 07:39.18 | sep | Edward_TLS, use the 2.6.15 installer |
| 07:39.24 | sep | !2.6.15 sarge |
| 07:39.36 | sep | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 07:39.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 07:39.43 | Edward_TLS | sep, welll.. that gives me debootstrap chroot proc problems... |
| 07:39.57 | jm_ | do you really need to use debootstrap? |
| 07:40.15 | sep | Edward_TLS, insert a real nic then, i hate them marvell things :) |
| 07:40.19 | Edward_TLS | jm_, the d-i beta2 installed I use |
| 07:40.31 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: I can't parse that |
| 07:40.32 | Edward_TLS | sep: marvell sata controller |
| 07:40.50 | sep | Edward_TLS, check hardware _before_ buying |
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| 07:41.19 | AngolaHacker | ss |
| 07:41.29 | Edward_TLS | jm_, debian beta 2 installer I use and after it got all the debs it's will install them and then it gives problems.. it's trying to chroot to /targer/proc |
| 07:41.34 | sep | Edward_TLS, then 2.6.15 from that url is what i would have tried, if that also failed a chroot install from a recent knoppix |
| 07:41.43 | Edward_TLS | sep, well.. it's a supermicro server.. |
| 07:42.00 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: beta 2 installer should have more recent kernel that should support your SATA controller so there's no need to use debootstrap |
| 07:42.18 | AngolaHacker | who know d-war |
| 07:42.21 | sep | Edward_TLS, on a server it's even more important to have true and tested chipsets not reverse engeneered god knows how it works bleeding edge stuff. |
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| 07:42.56 | Edward_TLS | jm_, I know... the error on term4 during install shows me that error: debootstrap chroot /target/proc proc |
| 07:43.32 | Edward_TLS | sep, i know.... if it was up to me I would go for SUN of IMB servers.... |
| 07:43.49 | jm_ | Edward_TLS: ahh so you're saying that there's an issue with the installer, try daily one |
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| 07:44.39 | Edward_TLS | jm_, I also tryed that one.... |
| 07:44.41 | sep | Edward_TLS, ro a normal chroot install if you want it done, if you want to help debug the d-i installer you can try the daily one :) |
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| 07:44.56 | Edward_TLS | jm_, I have this problem now for almost 2 days.. :( |
| 07:45.24 | Edward_TLS | daily also bad.. :( |
| 07:45.29 | sep | Edward_TLS, |
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| 07:45.35 | Edward_TLS | only on AMD systems... |
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| 07:45.42 | sep | Edward_TLS, chroot install... ? |
| 07:45.53 | Edward_TLS | on intel EM64T servers it's OK |
| 07:46.09 | jm_ | I have used sarge 2.6.15 with my AMD system and it worked just fine |
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| 07:46.41 | Edward_TLS | I also installed a few of them 2 weeks ago with the daily build... |
| 07:46.44 | Edward_TLS | worked fine.. |
| 07:47.06 | Edward_TLS | looks like a problem with one of the pkg |
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| 07:47.44 | Edward_TLS | If I create /target/proc manually then it still wont work.. :( |
| 07:48.13 | jm_ | yeah it's a mount point |
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| 07:48.48 | Edward_TLS | well.. the the installed can mount it no problem.. only later on it fails |
| 07:49.53 | Edward_TLS | next way to install is to drag a image of a running machine... |
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| 07:50.54 | liable | theres been a few people with chroot errors for 64, surely theres a bug and hopefully fix out there? |
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| 07:51.30 | Edward_TLS | liable, well I'll try yahoo.... with gg I had no luck.. :( |
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| 07:53.48 | jm_ | ahh he's using AMD64 installer? |
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| 07:53.54 | Edward_TLS | yep |
| 07:54.32 | Trent | do i put deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free in /etc/apt/sourcles.list to get the testing security updates? |
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| 07:55.55 | teledyn | !tell Trent about testing security |
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| 07:58.38 | Halitherses | what is a good linux utility to auto upload web sites? |
| 07:59.42 | Halitherses | !upload |
| 08:00.17 | tralala | Halitherses: gftp |
| 08:00.27 | Halitherses | thanks |
| 08:00.48 | nkuttler | Halitherses: sitecopy |
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| 08:02.32 | llama32 | anyone know how i can put an mp3 backwards? apparently stairway to heaven has real weird shit when you play it backwards :) |
| 08:02.44 | Trent | ive read http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ could anyone tell me what to put in? :P |
| 08:02.46 | kombi | how do you see which modules apaches actually loaded? |
| 08:02.47 | jm_ | alsaplayer used to have that capability |
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| 08:03.11 | kombi | llama32: it's not that weired actually... |
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| 08:03.43 | kombi | how do you tell which modules apache actually loaded? |
| 08:04.51 | fireba11 | hm ... am getting an error: /bin/sh: /usr/sbin/pg_maintenance: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden ... it's true the file is not there .. in fact it's not anywhere ... how to fix that ? i guess maintenance is important ;-) |
| 08:05.04 | llama32 | kombi: a friend today said he just heard it and it says some weird evil shit... i thought awesome im getting high and playing my entire collection backwards... unfortunately i dont have any weed but i can still do the latter |
| 08:05.41 | jm_ | sox also has reverse filter |
| 08:05.46 | kombi | I'll supply the weed..;) |
| 08:05.52 | jm_ | Reverse the sound sample completely. Included for finding Satanic subliminals. |
| 08:05.52 | aidan | llama32: I bet if you google it, someone has already done it and made it available for listening |
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| 08:06.20 | kombi | ..if only someone could tell me how to enable libphp5 in apache-ssl |
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| 08:06.39 | kombi | works fine in standard apache.. |
| 08:06.56 | nrdb | I am looking for some info on how to print from within a C program, can someone help with a reference? |
| 08:07.04 | jm_ | fireba11: /msg dpkg installit ;) |
| 08:07.20 | aidan | jm_: I was asking you about disabling that pam_mailcheck thing the other day. I've commented it out in the PAM conf, but it still comes up "you have x messages" on login. Where else can I look? |
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| 08:08.01 | jm_ | aidan: shells also do that, try setting MAILCHECK to 0 |
| 08:08.22 | fireba11 | jm_ lol .. postgresql is installed and it did set up this cronjob .. so the tool should be there ^^ |
| 08:09.12 | jm_ | fireba11: the command is in postgresql-common package |
| 08:09.38 | jm_ | aidehua: alternatively, you disabled it in the wrong PAM config file |
| 08:09.53 | fireba11 | that package is listed as installed :-( |
| 08:10.10 | jm_ | FireBlade: then someone deleted it I guess |
| 08:10.18 | jm_ | fireba11 ^^^ |
| 08:10.40 | fireba11 | jm_ "no installation candidate" |
| 08:10.46 | jm_ | that dude must be pissed off ;) |
| 08:10.56 | jm_ | fireba11: this isn't Sarge? |
| 08:11.42 | fireba11 | jm_ it should be... maybe someone installed soem packages not from sarge taht messed up |
| 08:12.31 | ooev | debian unstable, emacs21-nox broken? |
| 08:12.45 | aidan | $ echo $MAILCHECK |
| 08:12.46 | aidan | no |
| 08:12.55 | aidan | jm_: is no == 0? |
| 08:12.58 | llama32 | aidan: can't trust it though... gotta do it myself :) |
| 08:12.58 | fireba11 | jm_ how to find the version of an installed package ? |
| 08:13.22 | jm_ | this is weird, apt-cache finds it just fine for me in Sarge, but p.d.o doesn't |
| 08:13.25 | jm_ | fireba11: dpkg -s |
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| 08:13.57 | jm_ | FireBlade: you're right, it's not in that package, that's in > testing |
| 08:14.20 | jm_ | bah, I am stupid |
| 08:14.20 | llama32 | hehehe backwards music sounds like it's in arabic |
| 08:14.26 | jm_ | aidan: yeah |
| 08:14.59 | jm_ | fireba11: it's indeed not in Sarge |
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| 08:15.16 | jm_ | I must have had apt-file download files for sid |
| 08:15.28 | streuner | jm_: no |
| 08:15.42 | llama32 | holy fuck i do hear something... "lord forgive me" |
| 08:15.53 | jm_ | streuner: yes |
| 08:16.23 | jm_ | postgresql-common_48bpo1_all.deb |
| 08:16.27 | jm_ | right, backports |
| 08:16.30 | fireba11 | jm_ looks like just the cronjob from postgresql-common was still there .. there was another cronjob for postgresql so i guess it's okay to just delete the non-working one |
| 08:16.59 | jm_ | fireba11: either that, or someone installed a newer version which wasn't purged |
| 08:17.32 | aidan | jm_: #session optional pam_mail.so standard noenv |
| 08:17.42 | aidan | It's commented out in /etc/pam.d/login |
| 08:17.56 | jm_ | aidan: are you login using that then? |
| 08:17.59 | jm_ | logging in |
| 08:18.19 | fireba11 | jm_ i noticed someone put sources to unstable on that box .. despite it being sarge ... i fixed that of course but maybe he had a newer psotgresql-package installed that i did only remove not purge |
| 08:18.23 | aidan | ah, it's in ssh too ... shit :| thanks |
| 08:18.29 | jm_ | fireba11: yeah that must be it |
| 08:18.30 | jm_ | aidehua: right |
| 08:18.37 | jm_ | blah for me today |
| 08:18.40 | aidan | heh |
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| 08:18.54 | aidan | thanks :) |
| 08:18.57 | fireba11 | jm_ luckily he never did a apt-get dist-upgrade on it .. |
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| 08:20.08 | streuner | there are ways to lead a group, some people lead by autority - some by knowledge, but why there must be an asshole who lead a group by knowledge *AND* OVERSTRONG Autority? |
| 08:21.18 | jm_ | ahh backports.org has Contents files too, didn't notice it so far |
| 08:22.06 | nrdb | I have a C program I would like to print some info (to a printer) does anyone know where I can find data/examples on how to do this? |
| 08:22.29 | brick_redux | my system is unbootable at the moment because grub gets in a "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB..." state instead of giving me a prompt or menu. apparently this mostly has to do with poor BIOS autodetection; it happens to me on both a geometry-specific BIOS drive and ones plugged in through a PCI controller. i even changed motherboards, which had no effect. i've been stuck for hours - would love any suggestions. thanks. |
| 08:23.07 | jm_ | nrdb: what info? |
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| 08:23.36 | jm_ | brick_redux: try reinstalling GRUB with --force-lba switch |
| 08:24.07 | nrdb | jm_: how do I get something to print? |
| 08:24.18 | jm_ | nrdb: well I use lp command |
| 08:24.22 | brick_redux | jm_, OK, do you mean through the grub(1) shell or with grub-install(1)? |
| 08:24.48 | nrdb | jm_: from within a C program. data etc. |
| 08:24.53 | jm_ | brick_redux: doesn't really matter, you can use either |
| 08:25.24 | jm_ | nrdb: well I would just pipe it to lp |
| 08:25.26 | brick_redux | jm_, thanks. i am reading in the manual about what the option means. |
| 08:26.06 | nrdb | jm_: well ok do you know where I can find an example? |
| 08:26.30 | jm_ | nrdb: try using popen if you need an example |
| 08:26.44 | brick_redux | jm_, it's hardly described in the manual, but i am trying it! |
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| 08:27.02 | tralala | nrdb: here is an example : void main (void) { printf ("My text goes to printer") } |
| 08:27.18 | karma | Hi, I'm having a problem compiling something that I can't find out on Google... |
| 08:27.21 | tralala | then you run cprint | lp |
| 08:27.32 | brick_redux | nrdb, you want to leave as much work as possible to the operating system... use whichever library/program seems most convenient. |
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| 08:28.21 | karma | After I ran "ldconfig", when I try and do "make" in the directory to compile the source, it just says "make[1]: Entering directory BLAH" followed by "make[1]: Leaving directory BLAH" |
| 08:28.33 | karma | And nothing in between, like it doesn't even try and compile |
| 08:28.34 | nrdb | brick_redux: I don't know any way to print from within a C program I can't seem to find anything on google. |
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| 08:29.44 | nrdb | tralala: that example would print to the console, I looking for sending something to a printer. |
| 08:30.26 | brick_redux | nrdb, as i said, it depends on your OS. there is no such thing as a C program that will print on both windows and linux. |
| 08:30.28 | tralala | nrdb: you will redirect the output to the printer |
| 08:31.30 | nrdb | brick_redux: I am using Linux (I am on the debian chat group). |
| 08:32.07 | brick_redux | nrdb, great, look into the lp program |
| 08:32.07 | nrdb | tralala: I don't want to redirect, I want to do it from within the C program directly. |
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| 08:32.35 | brick_redux | you can either pipe it in there, or find out what library calls lp(1) itself uses |
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| 08:32.52 | brick_redux | remember, higher-level=easier |
| 08:33.18 | Hesiod | Hello to everyone !!! |
| 08:33.58 | jm_ | there's also libcupsys2-dev, see if you can use that |
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| 08:34.25 | deadcat | i reg'ed for linuxworldexpo 2006 sf today. with funny name and job title (= |
| 08:34.49 | streuner | when? |
| 08:34.57 | deadcat | aug 14-17 |
| 08:35.06 | brick_redux | jm_, not finding /boot/grub/stage1 is OK as long as it subsequently finds /grub/stage1, right? |
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| 08:36.01 | jm_ | brick_redux: do you have a /boot partition? |
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| 08:36.58 | Hesiod | ok can i have some help with vga card ? |
| 08:37.06 | jm_ | brick_redux: grub-install copies stage1 to the right place first |
| 08:37.14 | frederickb | evaded: I'm having the cd problem again |
| 08:37.15 | nrdb | brick_redux: I am still looking for anything. |
| 08:37.47 | brick_redux | jm_, yeah, /dev/hd?0 contains /boot, and /dev/hd?1 /. maybe this is suboptimal, i'm not sure. (of course, "it was working before.") |
| 08:38.09 | streuner | Hesiod: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i vga' tell you about? |
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| 08:38.17 | brick_redux | jm_, i get the impression that GRUB GRUB .... means a failure to transition from stage1 to stage2, but not sure how to pursue that |
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| 08:38.23 | jm_ | brick_redux: then you must call grub-install with appropriate option |
| 08:38.44 | Hesiod | brb |
| 08:38.46 | brick_redux | as in where stage2 is? but i don't know that my guess is any better than what the program figures. |
| 08:39.18 | jm_ | no, info grub-install has an example, and like I said, it will copy stage? files where it needs them |
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| 08:40.05 | brick_redux | i have read the man pages, but i will sure look again |
| 08:40.06 | Bazy | hello people, can anyone paste me a link on how to build iptables debian packages... is the iptables package build like any other package? |
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| 08:40.30 | frederickb | I am having a problem with my DVD drive, it isn't ejecting even when I try unmount it |
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| 08:41.01 | brick_redux | frederickb, the umount is failing, right? |
| 08:41.05 | Bazy | frederickb umount /dev/hdxx, and try to "eject" |
| 08:41.11 | frederickb | Yes the unmount is failing |
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| 08:41.47 | brick_redux | frederickb, that's the problem... what's using the device? |
| 08:42.10 | pitillo | frederickb, did you made a copy of some file in the device? |
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| 08:42.24 | Bazy | frederickb go to "cd /root" and then try to umount from there, if your in the /media/dvdrom you can't umount it, like brick_redux sayd, something is using it... and it could be you :-) |
| 08:42.34 | frederickb | brick_redux, I copied some audio files to a directory |
| 08:42.48 | xface | hello iam getting failed open vcd://2 |
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| 08:43.00 | xface | when i try to play a vcd with mplayer. can you help please? |
| 08:43.00 | lehel | hello |
| 08:43.08 | brick_redux | jm_, i'm sorry, i'm still confused. of course it should copy stage{1,2} to and from the "right place". when i info grub-install i see only a brief page with no examples. could you please elaborate? |
| 08:43.09 | pitillo | frederickb, select a file of your harddisk and copy it, then try to umount the device |
| 08:43.40 | lehel | can i syncronize my clock defined in debian to a world-clock? |
| 08:43.41 | brick_redux | xface, try #mplayer, "vcd://2" is meaningless to other programs |
| 08:43.50 | evaded | Yes, frederickb i'm wake up ;-) i take a cupe of coffee :-) |
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| 08:43.55 | brick_redux | lehel, see ntpdate |
| 08:44.04 | tralala | xface: if mplayer vcd:// doesn't play it then there is something wrong with the disc perhaps |
| 08:44.04 | lehel | thanks |
| 08:44.24 | jm_ | brick_redux: see example under --root-directory switch section |
| 08:44.38 | Bazy | can anyone paste me a link on how to build iptables debian packages? is the iptables package build like any other package? |
| 08:44.53 | lehel | brick_redux, thanks already syncronized.. ;) |
| 08:44.54 | xface | tralala, no the disk i automounted just fine |
| 08:44.58 | lehel | cool thing |
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| 08:45.45 | nitr0 | hello ;) |
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| 08:45.50 | xface | why mplayer wont open it? |
| 08:45.52 | tralala | xface: unmount it and use vcd:// |
| 08:46.08 | xface | what is vcd:// ? |
| 08:46.13 | frederickb | evaded: problem from Yesterday with my CDROM not unmounting |
| 08:46.18 | xface | its m ounted on /dev/cdrom0 |
| 08:46.43 | evaded | tralala: You can use the mplayer -d /dev/cdrom0 or somethings like that |
| 08:46.50 | evaded | frederickb: Yes, i see ;-) |
| 08:47.04 | xface | should i try it from konsole? |
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| 08:47.16 | frederickb | evaded: i didn't do anything about getting third mouse button simulation |
| 08:47.20 | xface | Unknown option on the command line: -d |
| 08:47.20 | xface | 91 audio & 204 video codecs |
| 08:47.27 | Halitherses | i get the following error when using sitecopy: Uploading test3.html: [] failed: 550 /~/test3.html: No such file or directory. How can i fix this error? |
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| 08:47.32 | evaded | frederickb: Sure you are no more in that CD structure? Right there are an need to see which process are running, 'ps aux' |
| 08:47.35 | frederickb | evaded: but I remember the pastebin |
| 08:47.41 | Halitherses | the catch works |
| 08:47.51 | Halitherses | the catchup works |
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| 08:48.07 | xface | please help with mplayer |
| 08:48.10 | Hesiod | lspci -v gives me the S3 Trio64V2/DX but i can't get GUI |
| 08:48.14 | evaded | frederickb: For that 3 mouse button, it's just a matter of an addidtional line of code in you're XFree86 config |
| 08:48.20 | jan_ | Hi, All bluetooth and usb modules are inserted, my usb bluetooth device is found (hciconfig), but when i try to bring it up (hciconfig hci0 up) it gives a timeout. Anyone seen this before? |
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| 08:48.47 | brick_redux | jm_, after installing grub-doc the man page got slightly longer :) |
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| 08:49.04 | evaded | frederickb: The problem if you cut and paste, that the width are limited to the with of you're actuall window. So that's why it's nice to use xclip ;-) |
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| 08:49.28 | jm_ | brick_redux: info page, not man page |
| 08:49.47 | nitr0 | Somebody can help me , it's about 2 ethernet card :/ i cant lounch them with ifup :/ |
| 08:49.59 | evaded | frederickb: But to use xclip you need to activate the third mouse button emulation :-/ Or if somebody know the keyboard shortcut to paste like with the middle mouse button |
| 08:50.20 | jm_ | evaded: you can emulate it with numpad keys |
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| 08:50.27 | evaded | jm_: How? |
| 08:50.42 | brick_redux | jm_, i don't claim to know the difference; the info page is slightly longer. in most cases the programs show the same content. |
| 08:50.43 | evaded | jm_: I mean how to paste the content of the buffer with the keyboard? |
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| 08:51.33 | jm_ | evaded: well shift+insert works in most terminal emulators |
| 08:52.09 | frederickb | evaded: can I get my third mouse button emulation with keyboard? |
| 08:52.14 | xface | how can i change the wrong time with correct local time? |
| 08:52.27 | evaded | frederickb: Look to what jm_ say, i test it |
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| 08:52.57 | evaded | jm_: oh Yes, it's looks to work |
| 08:53.20 | E-bola | Do anybody use nagios with nsca here? There seem to be an error in the nsca package initscript. It uses etc/sysconfig/network which doesnt exist on debian? |
| 08:53.33 | frederickb | my lap top doesn't have an insert button |
| 08:53.52 | tralala | ~~declare @Date varchar (10) |
| 08:53.57 | evaded | frederickb: ok here we gom, 'ps aux | xclip' and the output of it to pastebin. To paste it there ^^, like jm_ have give the tip Shif+insert to paste |
| 08:53.59 | tralala | ops sorry |
| 08:54.13 | brick_redux | jm_, that example is helpful, thanks for the pointer! |
| 08:54.45 | jm_ | evaded: he can also use screen to copy and paste if mouse isn't working |
| 08:54.47 | xface | how can i change the wrong time with correct local time? |
| 08:55.06 | frederickb | evaded: http://pastebin.ca/53459 |
| 08:55.13 | Hesiod | help with S3 Trio64V2/DX |
| 08:55.17 | evaded | jm_: hhhm, with screen, i know it's an terminal window manager, but that ... |
| 08:56.06 | evaded | frederickb: aai, see you that the wide are not width enought? I show you an example, moment |
| 08:56.55 | evaded | frederickb: Look this, http://pastebin.ca/53460 |
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| 08:57.36 | evaded | frederickb: That's what i mean, here the width are width enought, not in the pastebin you pasted. I guess you have not use 'ps aux|xclip' |
| 08:58.15 | frederickb | evaded: it will work if you expand your browser to a larger resolution |
| 08:58.43 | frederickb | evaded: but let's just solve the disc problem for now |
| 08:58.44 | evaded | frederickb: no, |
| 08:58.58 | frederickb | evaded: what is your screen resolution size |
| 08:59.18 | E-bola | Hey all |
| 08:59.23 | frederickb | evaded: on my screen every line is where it should be |
| 08:59.26 | E-bola | If i want to go from sarge-> etch whats the easiest way? |
| 08:59.29 | evaded | frederickb: That's what i try, solve you're problem. How have you paste the content there on pastebin. I mean how have you do 'ps aux' or 'ps aux|xclip' |
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| 08:59.39 | Hesiod | how can i reconfigure my vga ? |
| 08:59.50 | jm_ | Hesiod: huh? |
| 08:59.57 | frederickb | evaded: ps aux |
| 08:59.57 | evaded | frederickb: No matters the screen resolution of you pass by xclip |
| 09:00.06 | bibe | !tell E-bola -about sarge->etch |
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| 09:00.19 | evaded | frederickb: Right, you have not understand my, do 'ps aux|xclip' please |
| 09:00.33 | kombi | anyone here have any clue why apache-ssl won't load libphp5? |
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| 09:00.39 | frederickb | evaded: i just don't know how to get my third mouse button to work |
| 09:00.54 | Hesiod | jm_:doent give me graphic interface |
| 09:00.55 | kombi | plain apache does it fine.. just apache-ssl won't |
| 09:00.57 | E-bola | !tell E-bola -about testing security |
| 09:01.00 | evaded | frederickb: Have you follow the discusion here? jm_ have say it how to do with the keyboard! |
| 09:01.09 | evaded | frederickb: Shift |
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| 09:01.12 | jm_ | Hesiod: you mean startx fails or what? |
| 09:01.15 | evaded | frederickb: Shift+Insert |
| 09:01.16 | E-bola | thanks bibe |
| 09:01.41 | frederickb | evaded: thanks i try it |
| 09:01.44 | kombi | if only there would be an error message or anything.. |
| 09:01.45 | brick_redux | kombi, check your LoadModule lines and the apache error log... if all else fails see #apache :) |
| 09:02.08 | Hesiod | ok i have an s3 trio64v2/gx card |
| 09:02.12 | kombi | brick_redux: that's precisely the point where I'm rigtht now.. |
| 09:02.14 | evaded | frederickb: Yes, try it :-p |
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| 09:02.33 | frederickb | evaded: no it just copied the contents of KDE clipboard |
| 09:03.08 | kombi | brick_redux: apache-modconf doesn't even change modules.conf when you tell it to enable libphp5, works fine with other modules.. |
| 09:03.09 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 09:03.09 | dpkg | popcon is probably the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 09:03.30 | Hesiod | jm:and i cant start GUI |
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| 09:04.28 | M_Fatih | hi |
| 09:04.30 | M_Fatih | i want to install vmware (rpm). my rpm install command returned this suck error : /bin/sh is needed by VMwareWorkstation-5.5.1-19175.i386. what is the problem.. sh installed of course.. |
| 09:04.34 | kombi | popcon is also a little windows utility to work around weaknesses in exchange.. |
| 09:04.45 | kombi | (which sux) |
| 09:04.56 | evaded | frederickb: You need first to do 'ps aux|xclip' and then nothings more select some text, or the buffer are overwrited and you need again to do 'ps aux|xclip' to get the output of ps aux in the memory buffer. I have test it here with the keyboard shortcuts, like there are no 3 mousde button, and it work great |
| 09:05.14 | frederickb | evaded: I ran that command plenty of times |
| 09:05.16 | jm_ | Hesiod: you'll have to be a lot more precise about it if you want help |
| 09:05.33 | evaded | frederickb: Are there some else some text selected? |
| 09:05.36 | jm_ | M_Fatih: the problem is that you're trying to install an rpm |
| 09:05.51 | frederickb | evaded: it copies the link you pasted before |
| 09:05.53 | M_Fatih | rpm -i xx.rpm |
| 09:05.57 | M_Fatih | ? |
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| 09:06.25 | M_Fatih | but file is rpm :( what should i do? |
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| 09:07.05 | jm_ | two options - a) use appropriate rpm options to ignore dependency checks, or b) use vmware's .tar.gz package |
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| 09:07.55 | evaded | frederickb: Yes, it work. But i need to repeat that you may no select any text after running that 'ps aux|xclip' command. Otherwise the buffer are overwrited. I will not say it's you're fault, but i know it's a bit strange to understand how it work that xclip and text selecting :-/ i guess you did an little thing wrong |
| 09:08.18 | evaded | M_Fatih: Convert that rpm to an deb one |
| 09:08.26 | brick_redux | kombi, afaik the php5 modules are apache, not kernel, modules... |
| 09:08.34 | frederickb | evaded: if it doesn't work i'll try to ps aux|"some file |
| 09:08.38 | M_Fatih | evaded, is there any converter for this? |
| 09:08.41 | frederickb | and upload that instead of paste. |
| 09:08.43 | Goaz^ | hi all guys, i am sorry i have a question:i would like to mount an fts partition in order i can see my divx how to do it? |
| 09:08.46 | evaded | M_Fatih: See 'alien' |
| 09:09.11 | evaded | M_Fatih: 'alien foo.rpm' as root user an it make an deb |
| 09:09.33 | kombi | brick_redux: I hear you, I copied the LoadModule - line from the plain apache to the ssl one but no luck.. |
| 09:09.35 | Goaz^ | i already created a folder where to mount the ntfs partition |
| 09:09.42 | evaded | frederickb: Right!, you're better than my!!! ;-) |
| 09:09.56 | E-bola | W: GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 946AA6E18722E71E |
| 09:10.03 | E-bola | anybody know where i can get their pubkey? |
| 09:10.04 | dorel__ | has anyone ever had some luck with ohphone? |
| 09:10.11 | jm_ | E-bola: yes |
| 09:10.26 | evaded | E-bola: '/topic' |
| 09:10.37 | bibe | !tell E-bola -about 2006 key |
| 09:10.46 | E-bola | doh |
| 09:10.50 | E-bola | sory |
| 09:11.11 | frederickb | evaded: I can't seem to get my output for ps aux saved to a file |
| 09:11.25 | Goaz^ | could pls someone help me i need to mount a ntfs partition on debina |
| 09:11.28 | E-bola | it doesnt help |
| 09:11.31 | Goaz^ | debian* |
| 09:11.33 | E-bola | it helps for the normal mirrors |
| 09:11.38 | evaded | frederickb: 'ps aux > ps_aux.txt' |
| 09:11.40 | E-bola | but not for http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates |
| 09:11.59 | jm_ | E-bola: read the topic again, especially the bit related to testing security |
| 09:12.20 | evaded | !ntfs |
| 09:12.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 09:12.33 | E-bola | jm: testing isnt mentioned in the topic at all? |
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| 09:12.47 | evaded | hi hi Microsoft's attempt... attempt ... |
| 09:12.59 | jm_ | E-bola: yes it is |
| 09:13.05 | E-bola | ohh lol |
| 09:13.09 | E-bola | damm its a long topic! |
| 09:13.09 | Hesiod | jm_: to be more presice I get an error < EE Vesa(0) no matching modes > and >(EE Screen(S) found but none have a usable configuration |
| 09:13.10 | jethro | E-bola: did you miss '/msg dpkg testing security' ? |
| 09:13.19 | E-bola | jethro: yes, i did |
| 09:13.24 | Goaz^ | sorry is there anyboy who can help me? |
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| 09:13.35 | jm_ | Hesiod: ok, it will also tell you why it's discarding all those modes |
| 09:13.39 | frederickb | evaded: that technique didn't help either |
| 09:14.13 | frederickb | http://pastebin.ca/53463 |
| 09:14.20 | Goaz^ | umh |
| 09:14.44 | Goaz^ | sorry guys how to mount a ntfs partition? |
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| 09:15.13 | bibe | !tell Goaz^ -about ntfs |
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| 09:15.18 | evaded | frederickb: He he, look to you're pastebin, so it should be! Look the width of the last collumn, now i see the woulde path of the running proccess |
| 09:15.34 | WoodyWoodpecker | I am reading the book "Learning the bash shell" and have a question about the stack implimitation with pure shell commands: http://rafb.net/paste/results/eOnGeR69.html |
| 09:15.38 | WoodyWoodpecker | I am reading the book "Learning the bash shell" and have a question about the stack implimitation with pure shell commands: http://rafb.net/paste/results/eOnGeR69.html |
| 09:15.46 | WoodyWoodpecker | ups |
| 09:15.51 | paxed | trying to run cxref, it complains about needing to run dpkg-reconfigure cxref as root, but when i've done that, it _still_ complains about it. help? |
| 09:15.53 | evaded | !tell Goaz^ about fstab |
| 09:15.57 | WoodyWoodpecker | My question is if the cd kommand can not cd to $dirname, if the function pushd() will be exit then or run even further |
| 09:15.59 | Hesiod | jm_: it says <no screens found> Fatal IO error 104 |
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| 09:16.24 | jm_ | Hesiod: well that alone doesn't help, there's lots of info in the logfile |
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| 09:17.07 | Goaz^ | bibe, i already mount it by comand but i cant see the content as user |
| 09:17.08 | evaded | Hesiod: Try to read the /var/log/XFree86.log logfile, most case it been noted what's going wrong |
| 09:17.08 | frederickb | evaded: which pid should I kill |
| 09:17.34 | evaded | frederickb: Yeah, right, eeuh, i look to now ;-) |
| 09:17.39 | Hesiod | jm_: i have to check log for what? |
| 09:18.07 | jm_ | Hesiod: for everything, which sections are being used, which monitor parameters etc. |
| 09:18.10 | frederickb | evaded: important part is to solve problem for future |
| 09:18.39 | berzerka | i have a file from windows with CR-LF line endings (in hex-editor 0d0a). why does the following sed command not remove the carriage returns, and how would the correct command be? : sed -e 's/\r\n/\n/' -i file |
| 09:18.48 | Goaz^ | evaded, what option should i put inside the fstab in order i can see that partition as a user and everytime i boot my debian? |
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| 09:18.57 | evaded | frederickb: Yeah, and knowing a bit how to try to solve or troubleshoot ;-) But you're been learning some things :-) |
| 09:19.20 | evaded | Goaz^: Have you read the info that dpkg give about 'fstab'? |
| 09:19.33 | Goaz^ | it gave me no info |
| 09:19.47 | Goaz^ | Try `man 5 fstab` for more information on it. |
| 09:19.52 | Goaz^ | wat does it mean? |
| 09:20.02 | bibe | Goaz^ : umask=022,gid=xxx (where xxx is a group which your user belongs to) |
| 09:20.10 | evaded | frederickb: You run apache an mysql, right? |
| 09:20.17 | neoxan | vote for katija: http://www.rtv.de/titelgirl_profil.php?act=vote&id=katja5 |
| 09:20.18 | dli | can I install debian on reiser4 ? |
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| 09:20.33 | Goaz^ | so wwhat should i put instead of xxx |
| 09:20.34 | Goaz^ | ? |
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| 09:21.25 | Goaz^ | i have no group or users |
| 09:21.29 | frederickb | evaded: yes i do |
| 09:21.32 | evaded | frederickb: I think konqueror that happend. The last lines |
| 09:21.59 | evaded | frederickb: line 84 i think |
| 09:22.10 | frederickb | evaded: ok i'll try end them |
| 09:22.11 | bibe | Goaz^ : what does 'id -g' returns? |
| 09:22.24 | evaded | frederickb: KILL him!! I love it :-) |
| 09:22.51 | Goaz^ | it returns 0 |
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| 09:23.40 | brick_redux | jm_, it seems like /boot is the default --root-directory... when i specify --r-d=/boot, it complains about not finding /boot/boot. |
| 09:24.01 | Goaz^ | bibe this is the line with the partition mounted in fstab |
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| 09:24.05 | Goaz^ | /dev/hda5 /media/emule ntfs r, user,noauto 0 0 |
| 09:24.10 | brick_redux | jm_, that's the destination of the boot images, correct? those files already exist in place... maybe i should remove them (?) |
| 09:24.22 | jm_ | brick_redux: is /boot actually a mount point? |
| 09:24.26 | Goaz^ | how it should be the correct one? |
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| 09:24.52 | dli | brick_redux, you should make "ln -s . boot" in /boot |
| 09:25.08 | evaded | frederickb: And? |
| 09:25.12 | brick_redux | jm_, on this disk (hda) /boot is just one dir on the same partition |
| 09:25.16 | brick_redux | dli, sounds dangerous :) |
| 09:25.26 | Goaz^ | :( |
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| 09:25.43 | Goaz^ | bibe, are u there dude? |
| 09:25.47 | jm_ | brick_redux: right, so you don't need to use --r-d |
| 09:25.50 | evaded | frederickb: Know you how you need to kill him? |
| 09:26.16 | brick_redux | jm_, aha. the info page description was kind of ambiguous, it had started to sound useful.... |
| 09:26.36 | evaded | frederickb: The 'mode' actually is with bombs :-/ |
| 09:26.53 | brick_redux | boy, not being able to boot is the worst |
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| 09:27.50 | frederickb | evaded: i tried killing that process but it had allready gone |
| 09:28.08 | evaded | frederickb: And goes the cd eject now? |
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| 09:28.23 | Goaz^ | jm_, could u pls help me just a second? |
| 09:29.05 | frederickb | evaded: no cd is still stuck |
| 09:29.24 | evaded | frederickb: You have been mount it with konqueror? |
| 09:29.41 | jm_ | Goaz^: with? |
| 09:29.45 | Goaz^ | jm |
| 09:29.49 | Goaz^ | /dev/hda5 /media/emule ntfs r, user,noauto 0 0 |
| 09:29.53 | frederickb | evaded: i made a device Icon on my desktop |
| 09:29.58 | Goaz^ | how should i modify this line |
| 09:30.03 | Goaz^ | to make it correctly? |
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| 09:30.22 | evaded | frederickb: Yep, i use konqueror, i guess. Try to close all windows of konqueror |
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| 09:30.31 | jm_ | Goaz^: you already have other entries in there, make it the same "r, user,noauto" is wrong |
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| 09:30.47 | evaded | frederickb: Then look again whick process you need to kill, proccess related to konqueror. |
| 09:30.56 | evaded | s/whick/which |
| 09:31.25 | Goaz^ | and then the other part umask=022,gid=xxx .> where is to be added? |
| 09:31.30 | SlackRat | am i asking for trouble ugrading individual pkgs like OpenOffice on Sarge, without pinning anything or doing a general upgrade? |
| 09:31.51 | evaded | Goaz^: After the 'user' for example |
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| 09:32.40 | E-bola | Brr apt segfaulted on a dist-upgrade :/ |
| 09:32.54 | jm_ | Goaz^: options ... |
| 09:33.17 | Hesiod | jm_: it recognize vga as "Generic Video Card" and finds no matches for the mode (100,101,102...) So finally unloads everything. |
| 09:33.31 | Hesiod | jm_: it recognize vga as "Generic Video Card" and finds no matches for the mode (100,101,102...) So finally unloads everything. |
| 09:33.57 | deconvolution | hi, cron sending me thousands message to my mbox, how can i stop it? |
| 09:34.06 | evaded | frederickb: Which app have you use to access you're cd, to get these music? |
| 09:34.14 | Goaz^ | cant do it |
| 09:34.16 | Goaz^ | bahh... |
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| 09:34.32 | jm_ | Hesiod: can you paste the log somewhere? |
| 09:34.41 | brick_redux | grub thinks hda has 30515 cylinders, while the BIOS reports only 1024. is this an artifact of LBA addressing or a real problem? |
| 09:34.57 | brick_redux | (they agree on there being 255 heads and 63 sectors per.) |
| 09:35.08 | jm_ | brick_redux: that doesn't really matter if it's using LBA to access the device |
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| 09:35.54 | frederickb | evaded: my cd Rom drive has opened. |
| 09:36.02 | frederickb | evaded: i found the process I think |
| 09:36.13 | brick_redux | jm_, OK, they do both find it to be the same size (~251GB) |
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| 09:36.52 | brick_redux | jm, still just trying to find inconsistencies here. i haven't gotten any result from booting other than GRUB GRUB GRUB in some hours. |
| 09:36.53 | evaded | frederickb: Take been the name what's is. No the process number, the next time hi use another proccess number. what is it. Can you give me the process number. So i look on the pastebin |
| 09:37.16 | Goaz^ | i am sorry evaded is it correct like this ? |
| 09:37.18 | Goaz^ | /dev/hda5 /media/emule auto ro,user, umask=022,gid=000 |
| 09:37.22 | Hesiod | jm : how can i send it to a floppy ? |
| 09:37.40 | evaded | Goaz^: Remove that little space |
| 09:37.44 | ankur | I am getting INPUT IN=eth0 MAC=.. SRC=... DST=.. messages on my konsole screen. so how to get rid of that... |
| 09:37.47 | Goaz^ | after user |
| 09:37.51 | Goaz^ | and the its ok? |
| 09:37.55 | Goaz^ | then |
| 09:37.57 | evaded | Goaz^: Yep |
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| 09:38.55 | frederickb | evaded: i ran ps aux again |
| 09:38.58 | jethro | ankur: /msg dpkg syslog console |
| 09:39.19 | jm_ | brick_redux: is that the right size? |
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| 09:39.35 | jm_ | Hesiod: mount floppy, copy it, or use mtools |
| 09:39.35 | evaded | frederickb: No, like you have killed it. It's gone. Remember you the pid? Or can you press the 'Up' key(history of the console) to give me the pid? So i can look on the pastebin you have already pasted |
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| 09:41.07 | brick_redux | jm_, 1/4 terabyte? yeah. no filesystem problems. i don't have a clue why i haven't been able to boot off it. |
| 09:41.22 | jylok | how i can install verlihub?? |
| 09:41.26 | jm_ | brick_redux: did you reinstall it with force option? |
| 09:42.08 | brick_redux | jm_, i haven't tried to force anything - doesn't grub do a pretty good job of determining what's legit? is this something you'd recommend? |
| 09:43.35 | streuner_ | jylok: tried google? |
| 09:43.43 | streuner_ | jylok: http://forum.verlihub.net/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=d475575f75c70319e89df35da33fcfbd |
| 09:43.43 | jm_ | brick_redux: yes, that's something I would try |
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| 09:46.50 | SlackRat | am i asking for trouble ugrading individual pkgs like OpenOffice on Sarge, without pinning anything or doing a general upgrade? |
| 09:46.51 | brick_redux | jm_, i'm looking for this option; do you just mean --force-lba? that i have tried. |
| 09:46.53 | ankur | jethro : thank you.. but still i am not getting in which line i need to add -R option |
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| 09:47.38 | jylok | 10x streuner_ |
| 09:47.55 | brick_redux | it is almost 3 AM, i guess i will come back to this tomorrow :( |
| 09:48.09 | brick_redux | jm_, thank you for your tips and attention! |
| 09:48.31 | Knight_Lord | Can anyone please point me to a guide on how to build a debian package? |
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| 09:49.15 | jm_ | brick_redux: yup, this is the option |
| 09:49.33 | SlackRat | ...guess not.... |
| 09:49.34 | jm_ | Knight_Lord: build it using Debian source packages? |
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| 09:50.37 | Knight_Lord | jm_ i have a third party source (http://www.llnl.gov/casc/sundials/) and I want to build a package from it instead of compiling from source each time i want to install it on a new computer |
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| 09:50.42 | streuner_ | jylok: you're welcome. |
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| 09:52.30 | jm_ | Knight_Lord: so you want to make a deb out of it? |
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| 09:53.33 | Knight_Lord | jm_ yes |
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| 09:54.12 | Knight_Lord | jm_ there is actually already a debian package of it, but it's only compiled in double precision, and i would like single precision |
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| 09:58.13 | jm_ | Knight_Lord: do they provide source packages for it? |
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| 10:00.19 | Knight_Lord | jm_ i don't know, how do i check? |
| 10:00.48 | evaded | !grounding |
| 10:00.48 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
| 10:01.24 | evaded | It's to show some usefull docs, pay not attention to the first line :-/ |
| 10:01.50 | Knight_Lord | evaded ok thanks |
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| 10:04.14 | Edward_TLS | is there a way to use "find" to search for files with access time like 2 hours.. ? |
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| 10:04.55 | jm_ | Knight_Lord: tried apt-get source foo? |
| 10:05.07 | jm_ | edwards: yes |
| 10:05.13 | jm_ | Edward_TLS ^^^^ |
| 10:05.29 | Edward_TLS | jm_, nice man.. thanks.. ??? |
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| 10:09.50 | SlackRat | morning |
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| 10:10.34 | Maulkin | [OT} Hmm... OOI, anyone here got experience of heavy level mySQL with innodb vs myisam? |
| 10:12.31 | SlayerXP | Maulkin: yes, "don't". |
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| 10:20.32 | Maulkin | SlayerXP: heh |
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| 10:24.09 | exalted | Hi. Is there any efficient way to make a custom Debian installation DVD from previously downloded CDs? Ty. |
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| 10:28.26 | RainbowW | so i have a procmail recipie for a whitelist posted at http://pastebin.com/697708 ... my question is, can i use regex in the whitelist, eg .*@somedomain.com, with this recipie? |
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| 10:30.49 | andrs | does anybody know how you dial with a analog modem in the terminal i've used echo -e "ATD0W<number>/r" > /dev/ttyS0 but i'm having problems with getting the outsideline,supposed to use the ATD<lineout>W<phonenumber> |
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| 10:31.57 | RainbowW | analog is bad for your throughput. use something else. |
| 10:32.30 | jm_ | andrs: why don't you use minicom? |
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| 10:33.00 | jm_ | RainbowW: man fgrep |
| 10:33.05 | E-bola | How do i get php compiled with GD2 in debian etch? |
| 10:33.12 | E-bola | after upgrading from sarge it seems to have broken |
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| 10:34.30 | andrs | jm_, I'm checking out what minicom is... |
| 10:34.54 | andrs | RainbowW, I dont have an ISDN line here.. |
| 10:35.00 | menko | hey, anybody know the keyboard shortcut for centering text in ooo? |
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| 10:36.44 | toomai | hi all |
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| 10:37.05 | ming | hi |
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| 10:40.21 | andrs | jm_, I'm not using minicom because I am not familiar with the program. I wish I was tho. |
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| 10:40.57 | jm_ | andrs: use that with modems, it can be scripted too, but it's not very advanced |
| 10:41.38 | bkankur_ | Hello by using -r option in "start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $binpath -- $SYSLOGD -r" and restarting /etc/init.d/syslogd i still getting the each ip packet details on my console. |
| 10:41.56 | jm_ | bkankur_: /msg dpkg printk console |
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| 10:42.30 | jm_ | -r is something entirely different |
| 10:42.53 | Hesiod | jm : i have copy the XFree86log file (about the error with the GUI with the S3 trio card) |
| 10:43.12 | jm_ | Hesiod: paste it on some pastebin site |
| 10:43.24 | andrs | jm_, well, thanks =) |
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| 10:43.39 | Hesiod | jm_> sorry ? |
| 10:43.51 | jm_ | Hesiod: /msg dpkg paste |
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| 10:46.14 | menko | anyone know the double line spacing keyboard shortcut for OOo? |
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| 10:46.26 | menko | ctrl-2 doesn't work :( |
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| 10:47.00 | Hesiod | jm_> ok i did that , the link is http://pastebin.ca/53486 |
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| 10:48.46 | jm_ | Hesiod: and which modes did you tell it to use? and which bpp? |
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| 10:49.48 | jm_ | maybe paste the config file somewhere |
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| 10:51.09 | Hesiod | jm_:and where is that, i mean the config file? |
| 10:51.32 | jm_ | Hesiod: from your logfile -- (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" |
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| 10:57.54 | mkisofs | hellow |
| 10:58.26 | Hesiod | jm_> ok i did that , the link is http://pastebin.ca/53489 (XF86Config-4 file) |
| 10:58.50 | menko | hi, does anyone know what package I need to install to get a dictionary for openoffice? |
| 10:59.16 | E-bola | Do anybody know how to get php4 to work with gd2 in debian |
| 10:59.22 | E-bola | without compiling ur self |
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| 11:00.40 | streuner_ | What do you need in order to print in acroread? |
| 11:01.20 | menko | streuner_: It just prints like any other app for me |
| 11:01.29 | jm_ | Hesiod: that looks just fine |
| 11:01.30 | streuner_ | menko: unstable? |
| 11:01.38 | menko | streuner_: yup |
| 11:01.47 | Hesiod | jm_> so ? |
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| 11:01.59 | jm_ | streuner_: File -> Print lets you enter a print command |
| 11:02.07 | jm_ | Hesiod: let me see if I can try vesa driver here |
| 11:02.11 | streuner_ | jm_: hehe ;-) |
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| 11:02.22 | Hesiod | ok |
| 11:02.54 | Hesiod | jm_> i follow the deafults through installation |
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| 11:04.19 | streuner_ | after using gnome-cups-manager any gtk-based apps doesn't print either |
| 11:04.31 | streuner_ | oo or firefox prints fine |
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| 11:04.51 | menko | I dislike gnome-cups-manager intensely |
| 11:05.20 | menko | I use the webbased interface for setting up printers, and gtklp & gtklpq for anything past that |
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| 11:05.26 | streuner_ | well, it would be fine to know where it store it changes... |
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| 11:06.14 | menko | I know gtklp stores it's changes in ~/.lpoption or /etc/cups/lpoptions |
| 11:06.54 | streuner_ | menko: i looked, of course, into /etc/cups/* - but i cannot see any changes there |
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| 11:07.47 | Hesiod | is there any command gives you the option to change selected Vga and try another driver? |
| 11:07.59 | streuner_ | !drxx Hesiod |
| 11:07.59 | dpkg | Hesiod: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:08.08 | menko | Why do the gnome tools have to add an extra layer on top of gtk? I have to have two sets of config tools, one for gnome, and another for gtk apps outside of gnome... |
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| 11:11.02 | jm_ | Hesiod: did you try using 16 bit depth? |
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| 11:14.27 | menko | well, do the openoffice spellchecking dictionary packages have the name openoffice in them at least? |
| 11:15.25 | streuner_ | sounds like a question for _rene_ :-) |
| 11:15.55 | menko | I got the thesaurus installed, but spell checking is a no go.. |
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| 11:17.14 | streuner_ | You can extend the functionality of OpenOffice.org by installing these packages: |
| 11:17.19 | menko | ahhhh myspell |
| 11:17.29 | streuner_ | myspell-dictionary: Myspell dictionaries for use with OpenOffice.org |
| 11:17.43 | streuner_ | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/openoffice.org |
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| 11:17.47 | menko | I wonder if en-gb is all that different to en-nz |
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| 11:17.57 | blazemonger | how do i use a patch to patch a debian source |
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| 11:18.15 | streuner_ | which source? |
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| 11:19.01 | jm_ | Hesiod: yeah I see it now, it only lists 8 and 16 bpp modes, but you have told it to use 24bpp |
| 11:19.19 | menko | does anyone know where I can get a comprehensive list of openoffice keyboard shortcuts? I'm looking for one that does double spacing, but all I've found from google is ctrl-2, but that doesn't work... |
| 11:19.30 | jm_ | so switch to 16 bit depth and you should be OK |
| 11:20.03 | mentor | menko: Because GTK is a toolkit for frawing GUIs and GNOME is not? |
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| 11:21.00 | menko | mentor: yes, but there are a few things that don't need extra layers, and gtk is just one example, another is mouse cursors. |
| 11:21.19 | menko | mentor: and by extra layer, I meant theme setting for gtk |
| 11:21.30 | mentor | ah |
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| 11:23.29 | Nikos | root@dell:~# vsftpd |
| 11:23.30 | Nikos | 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket |
| 11:23.31 | Nikos | why? |
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| 11:24.16 | jm_ | because |
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| 11:25.29 | Nikos | why cant i start vsftpd? |
| 11:26.09 | jm_ | use the init script instead |
| 11:26.46 | SlayerXP | Nikos: does your sysadmin know you're trying to run an ftp server? |
| 11:26.59 | Nikos | iam the sysadmin |
| 11:27.11 | SlayerXP | no, you're a chimp with the root password. |
| 11:27.33 | Nikos | its my own pc |
| 11:28.53 | Hesiod | jm_> and how can i change that, i mean depth doi have to edit the file? Or there is a command? |
| 11:29.12 | jm_ | Hesiod: dpkg has told you already |
| 11:29.15 | jm_ | !drxx Hesiod |
| 11:29.15 | dpkg | Hesiod: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 11:29.19 | dimir | Nikos: it can be running already |
| 11:29.21 | Nikos | SlayerXP, stop talkign crap will you? |
| 11:29.28 | jm_ | Hesiod: read the above, and select 16 when asked about it |
| 11:29.31 | dimir | :-D |
| 11:29.51 | Nikos | dimir, how do i check? |
| 11:29.59 | dimir | with netstat or ps |
| 11:30.07 | Hesiod | ok thanks !!! |
| 11:30.14 | jm_ | !tell nikos -about open ports |
| 11:30.29 | Nikos | root@dell:~# ps | grep vsftpd |
| 11:30.32 | Nikos | nothign returned |
| 11:30.59 | SlayerXP | Nikos: how did you install vsftpd? |
| 11:31.19 | Nikos | apt-get install vsftpd |
| 11:31.21 | Nikos | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 10324/vsftpd |
| 11:31.27 | Nikos | and yes its running |
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| 11:31.35 | Nikos | root@dell:~# netstat -plunt |
| 11:31.44 | dimir | Nikos: use /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart |
| 11:31.47 | Nikos | how do i configure it? |
| 11:32.06 | dimir | Nikos: By editing /etc/vsftpd.conf probably. |
| 11:32.07 | beef | Anyone know if I can use wget or a similar utility to download a file several times, and diff the iterations, to make sure that it downloaded properly? |
| 11:32.07 | SlayerXP | Nikos: you edit the configuration file. |
| 11:32.14 | Nikos | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.14 | Nikos | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.17 | beef | Can't find mention of this in the wget man page. |
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| 11:32.54 | Nikos | yes sorry for askignt hsi is my first tiem tryign to run and configure ftp server on linux |
| 11:33.21 | streuner_ | ftp sucks, so don't use it |
| 11:33.35 | SlayerXP | Nikos: that's an odd looking start/stop message, are you sure you're running debian? |
| 11:33.36 | dimir | Nikos: kill it, and start the serice normally: /etc/init.d/vsftpd start |
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| 11:33.47 | Nikos | # Run standalone? vsftpd can run either from an inetd or as a standalone |
| 11:33.47 | Nikos | # daemon started from an initscript. |
| 11:33.49 | dimir | ye. |
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| 11:33.59 | freelancer | hello people |
| 11:34.00 | Nikos | guys should it run as inted or standalone? |
| 11:34.09 | Nikos | dont knwo the difeerence |
| 11:34.10 | jm_ | you're the sysadmin ... |
| 11:34.12 | SlayerXP | Nikos: which suits your needs best? |
| 11:34.19 | Nikos | i dont knwo the difeerence |
| 11:34.23 | Tripi | Hi from spain |
| 11:34.25 | SlayerXP | Nikos: perhaps you should find out |
| 11:34.26 | Tripi | :) |
| 11:34.32 | dimir | Nikos: standalone probably. |
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| 11:35.03 | Nikos | i dont accept oo many connection though |
| 11:35.08 | blazemonger | worked |
| 11:35.27 | dimir | Nikos: standalone is easier. |
| 11:35.44 | freelancer | what an afternoon/everning... |
| 11:35.50 | Nikos | ok |
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| 11:38.27 | Nikos | how do i set in cond what will be the default laninf user dir |
| 11:38.37 | Nikos | so that people can uplaod and also downlaod files |
| 11:39.26 | SlayerXP | Nikos: you read and understand the documentation, that make appropriate changes to the config file. |
| 11:39.30 | Nikos | mayve its beter to run ssh server instead? |
| 11:39.33 | SlayerXP | s/that/then/ |
| 11:39.46 | Nikos | sooenoen before talked about sshd |
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| 11:40.22 | SlayerXP | Nikos: i hear Windows has a really easy to configure ftp server. perhaps you should use that instead. |
| 11:40.40 | Nikos | i did that with xp |
| 11:40.45 | Nikos | i work with ubuntu noiw |
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| 11:40.48 | streuner_ | haha |
| 11:40.52 | meeps | lol |
| 11:41.08 | Nikos | isnt there soemkind of gui configuration? |
| 11:41.12 | meeps | lol |
| 11:41.16 | SlayerXP | Nikos: this is #debian, you are using ubuntu. ask your questions in #ubuntu |
| 11:41.16 | meeps | lolol , doubtful :) |
| 11:41.25 | Nikos | ubuntu is debian based |
| 11:41.30 | meeps | lol |
| 11:41.34 | Nikos | and this is a more helpfull channel |
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| 11:41.40 | meeps | Nikos |
| 11:41.43 | meeps | i suggest you try debian ;) |
| 11:41.45 | SlayerXP | Nikos: bet? |
| 11:41.46 | meeps | then come and ask :D |
| 11:41.49 | Nikos | i tried once |
| 11:41.53 | Nikos | it asked me 100 questions |
| 11:41.56 | meeps | lol |
| 11:41.59 | Nikos | some of them didnt knew what to answer :) |
| 11:42.00 | meeps | uhm |
| 11:42.06 | meeps | really? |
| 11:42.10 | Nikos | yes |
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| 11:42.14 | meeps | like whether youd like to deliver mail locally? |
| 11:42.16 | meeps | :P |
| 11:42.21 | Nikos | lol |
| 11:42.24 | Nikos | some thing sliek that |
| 11:42.28 | freelancer | my debian never asked that many questions... |
| 11:42.30 | Nikos | or xf86config soemthing |
| 11:42.30 | SlayerXP | Nikos: I'd like to apologise for accusing you of being a chimp with the root password. |
| 11:42.33 | meeps | freelancer aye |
| 11:42.33 | Nikos | stuff i ddint know |
| 11:42.37 | meeps | maybe 20 questions |
| 11:42.46 | meeps | if it was a kernel compile i could understand the 100 odd questions |
| 11:42.49 | SlayerXP | Nikos: clearly that's a slur of the reputation of chimps around the planet. |
| 11:42.50 | Nikos | SlayerXP, its ok, apology accepted :) |
| 11:42.51 | piyush_patel | how can i add dns server entry via console |
| 11:43.00 | freelancer | hi meeps |
| 11:43.06 | SlayerXP | you're not _even_ a chimp with the root password. |
| 11:43.10 | meeps | LOL |
| 11:43.15 | meeps | oh my |
| 11:43.24 | Nikos | SlayerXP, but you are right? |
| 11:43.30 | meeps | www.tldp.org Nikos |
| 11:43.31 | streuner_ | Nikos: #ubuntu |
| 11:43.32 | dimir | :-D |
| 11:43.36 | streuner_ | !they don't know |
| 11:43.36 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 11:43.54 | freelancer | Nikos /server ubuntu |
| 11:43.56 | streuner_ | Nikos: so use debian or ask in #ubuntu, please. |
| 11:43.57 | animato | hello, i'm using ubuntu atm, and i'm thinking of switching to debian since it has a great script for hebrew. i'm getting along quite well in ubuntu, so what's the difference between those two? if i'm gonna install gnome like i use in ubuntu, i'm gonna have synaptic and all, won't i? |
| 11:43.59 | meeps | oh for christ sake Nikos |
| 11:43.59 | dimir | hassle US instead! |
| 11:44.02 | meeps | download glftpd binaries |
| 11:44.05 | meeps | its not difficult |
| 11:44.19 | meeps | or proftpd |
| 11:44.34 | Nikos | my questions are not ubuntu oriented but linxu oriented in more general |
| 11:44.39 | meeps | lmao freelancer |
| 11:44.40 | SlayerXP | freenode needs a function by which one can kick someone from one channel and into another. |
| 11:44.42 | jm_ | animato: yes, but not necessarily the same version |
| 11:44.46 | Nikos | everyting i do with ubuntu it appleis to debiana s well |
| 11:44.47 | meeps | Nikos thats pish :P |
| 11:44.54 | meeps | debian and ubuntu are pretty far apart |
| 11:44.55 | meeps | :) |
| 11:44.55 | animato | same version of what? of gnome? |
| 11:45.08 | meeps | Nikos sorry thats carp |
| 11:45.13 | Nikos | then why is ti called debian based? |
| 11:45.16 | animato | well , i can compile a new ver in debian, which can be quite tricky in ubuntu. |
| 11:45.19 | meeps | heh |
| 11:45.23 | freelancer | rm -rf /ubuntu |
| 11:45.24 | meeps | Nikos |
| 11:45.34 | jm_ | no you don't want to compile stuff |
| 11:45.34 | meeps | windows is dos based |
| 11:45.46 | meeps | but the two couldnt be much more different in terms of configuration :) |
| 11:45.46 | animato | why not? |
| 11:45.56 | animato | what if i wanna use the latest ver. of gnome? |
| 11:46.05 | streuner_ | Ronin: heh, /msg dpkg permanent sunday ;-) |
| 11:46.08 | Nikos | pleae configturing ftp or ssh |
| 11:46.16 | meeps | eh? |
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| 11:46.17 | Nikos | works the same in both linux distros |
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| 11:46.21 | meeps | Nikos #UBUNTU |
| 11:46.21 | Nikos | so please help |
| 11:46.21 | dimir | animato: you probably need to decide what version of Debian to go for instead. |
| 11:46.22 | freelancer | ssh:)~ |
| 11:46.24 | SlayerXP | Nikos: /part #debian; /join #ubuntu |
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| 11:46.32 | meeps | for god sake |
| 11:46.37 | meeps | theres like 700 people in #ubuntu |
| 11:46.39 | jm_ | because it interferes with packaging system |
| 11:46.39 | Nikos | why you refuse to help? |
| 11:46.43 | meeps | who could tell you exactly what to do |
| 11:46.44 | nitalaut | hello everyone |
| 11:46.49 | meeps | i refuse to help because i know nothing about ubuntu |
| 11:46.54 | streuner_ | Nikos: we support debian |
| 11:46.54 | Ronin | Nikos: likely becasue youre not running debian but im just guessing :) |
| 11:46.59 | animato | how stable is the "unstable" version of debian? |
| 11:46.59 | meeps | maybe thats why im idling #debian and not #ubuntu ! |
| 11:47.00 | meeps | :) |
| 11:47.10 | Nikos | lol |
| 11:47.11 | meeps | <animato> how stable is the "unstable" version of debian? <--- LOL |
| 11:47.13 | meeps | you guys |
| 11:47.15 | Nikos | guys whetever tou tell me |
| 11:47.16 | SlayerXP | Nikos: we don't help with redhat, mandrake, suse, turbolinux, fedora or any other distro. why should we make an exception for ubuntu? |
| 11:47.19 | freelancer | lol |
| 11:47.20 | Nikos | it will be apllied to ubuntu |
| 11:47.24 | Nikos | its same stuff |
| 11:47.35 | dimir | Nikos: because all you need is reading some docs, which are available and good. |
| 11:47.45 | Nikos | ok for starteres |
| 11:47.53 | Nikos | do i need ftpd or sshd ? |
| 11:47.56 | meeps | lol |
| 11:48.02 | SlayerXP | Nikos: yes, you need ftpd or sshd. |
| 11:48.07 | meeps | Nikos i think the problem is your a penguin with no legs :) |
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| 11:48.08 | SlayerXP | probably. |
| 11:48.15 | freelancer | try them both and see which you like |
| 11:48.17 | Nikos | lol |
| 11:48.31 | dimir | Nikos: decide what you need to provide, reas about these two, then come back. |
| 11:48.31 | meeps | or tldp |
| 11:48.34 | Nikos | but i need soem pages that help me |
| 11:48.36 | meeps | or linuxfaq |
| 11:48.39 | dimir | s/reas/read/ |
| 11:48.40 | Nikos | i cant do it by my own |
| 11:48.48 | freelancer | www.opesnssh.org |
| 11:48.49 | Nikos | its first time i try things like that in linux |
| 11:48.53 | meeps | well Nikos |
| 11:48.55 | meeps | heres a clue |
| 11:48.58 | meeps | WinSCP |
| 11:49.06 | meeps | for the wi ndows lamer wanting to use ssh details to "transfer files" |
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| 11:49.09 | meeps | :P |
| 11:49.21 | meeps | hope that helps :P |
| 11:49.22 | Nikos | ok continue to be ironic |
| 11:49.26 | Nikos | that evry helpfull |
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| 11:49.31 | meeps | heh :) |
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| 11:49.47 | meeps | someone else can help you then. |
| 11:49.48 | Nikos | you dotn want to help in simpel stuff like that |
| 11:49.59 | meeps | i just told you what you needed to transfer files over ssh |
| 11:49.59 | SlayerXP | Nikos: we don't. #ubuntu does. go and ask there. |
| 11:50.01 | Nikos | just ebcaue iam runnign ubuntu |
| 11:50.02 | meeps | but sure, go ahead Nikos. |
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| 11:50.09 | meeps | winge |
| 11:50.10 | ceviz_ | #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net #ceviz.net |
| 11:50.12 | Ronin | Nikos: we do, just install debian and folks here will be glad to help |
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| 11:50.33 | Nikos | i udner stand this is a debian chneel but as i also stated |
| 11:50.34 | meeps | yes |
| 11:50.36 | meeps | i said that Ronin :D |
| 11:50.40 | meeps | Nikos |
| 11:50.41 | meeps | YOU IDIOT |
| 11:50.43 | Nikos | everyting you say it will also run on ubuntu |
| 11:50.45 | meeps | i told you what you needed to transfer files |
| 11:50.47 | jm_ | Nikos: no |
| 11:50.47 | Ronin | meeps: i know but i figured the 50th time may work |
| 11:50.48 | meeps | now stop winging |
| 11:50.50 | Nikos | its actually the same stuff exactly |
| 11:50.57 | meeps | Ronin :D |
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| 11:51.11 | streuner_ | Nikos: can you do us a favorite and ask NOW in #ubuntu? |
| 11:51.18 | meeps | hheheeh |
| 11:51.21 | Nikos | i will |
| 11:51.24 | streuner_ | ok |
| 11:51.28 | Nikos | but they dotn answer many times |
| 11:51.29 | meeps | i will go into #windows and ask how to configure ubuntu |
| 11:51.32 | meeps | see how funny that is. |
| 11:51.38 | meeps | :-) |
| 11:51.39 | freelancer | rofl meeps |
| 11:51.42 | Nikos | windows its not debian based |
| 11:51.42 | rhalff_ | hi I'm trying to use 'wt' to configure wine, but the application has no fonts, any ideas what package I could be missing, or what could be broken ? |
| 11:51.43 | sep | Nikos, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. my coworker installed ubuntu on a box and it's config differs from debian in many key aspects. |
| 11:51.45 | Ronin | Nikos: then be patient and wait |
| 11:51.48 | meeps | lol |
| 11:51.54 | meeps | indeed Nikos, windows is DOS based, |
| 11:51.58 | meeps | :P |
| 11:52.01 | meeps | go figure! |
| 11:52.09 | meeps | you microsoft muncher :) |
| 11:52.12 | Nikos | lol |
| 11:52.14 | Nikos | i ahte xo |
| 11:52.19 | Nikos | thats why i turned to linux |
| 11:52.28 | nicoco | hi! is it normal that updating my package x11-common results in installing xfree86-common ? i'm using sid (almost) up-to-date |
| 11:52.29 | Nikos | but debian its not for newcomers |
| 11:52.29 | meeps | heh |
| 11:52.34 | meeps | it is |
| 11:52.34 | Nikos | its for already advanced people |
| 11:52.37 | meeps | i started with debian |
| 11:52.40 | meeps | im *still* a noob |
| 11:52.45 | sep | Nikos, but why on earth is it so dificult to ask questions in the channels that's designed to help you ? |
| 11:52.48 | meeps | but i think you shouldve just looked up winscp with GOOGLE |
| 11:52.53 | freelancer | I'm a newcommber... |
| 11:52.54 | meeps | and started transfering your files |
| 11:52.56 | streuner_ | Nikos: if you cannot read docs, debian isn't what you want. |
| 11:52.57 | nitalaut | guys can anyone give me an advice..i need small smtp-proxy which will filter outgoing mail and drop some particular letters based on its destination address |
| 11:53.00 | freelancer | well I thought I was... |
| 11:53.01 | Nikos | sep because they arent as helpfullas here |
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| 11:53.12 | meeps | heh |
| 11:53.12 | sep | Nikos, you think this is helpfull ?... |
| 11:53.17 | sep | hehehehehehahahhahahohhoh |
| 11:53.19 | meeps | tbh im starting to get annoyed |
| 11:53.20 | Nikos | yes |
| 11:53.26 | meeps | WINSCP GOOGLE.COM SSH TRANSFER FILES |
| 11:53.32 | meeps | SIMPLE SO SO SIMPLE |
| 11:53.32 | Nikos | not momentarilly though :) |
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| 11:53.39 | meeps | :) |
| 11:53.46 | Nikos | i though you made fun of me |
| 11:53.47 | SlayerXP | Nikos: you still didn't go ask in #ubuntu |
| 11:53.50 | Nikos | with this winscp command |
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| 11:53.56 | nitalaut | i found proxsmtp |
| 11:53.57 | meeps | hehh |
| 11:54.06 | sep | meeps, your just not beliveable |
| 11:54.06 | Nikos | lol |
| 11:54.06 | nitalaut | but it is pretty bad documented |
| 11:54.06 | freelancer | Nikos www.openssh.org |
| 11:54.12 | andrs | is there a way for changing the start and stop bits for serialmodems in debian? |
| 11:54.13 | Nikos | ok SlayerXP ill ask in ubuntu |
| 11:54.18 | Nikos | but if i dotn get an anser |
| 11:54.23 | Nikos | ill come here again. ok? |
| 11:54.27 | sep | Nikos, youll install debian ? |
| 11:54.29 | Nikos | and then you WILL help me |
| 11:54.40 | sep | Nikos, naw but we might make more fun of you |
| 11:54.43 | meeps | oh ffs |
| 11:54.47 | nicoco | ... please tell me i know that some of you use sid with xorg 7 |
| 11:54.48 | sep | :) |
| 11:54.52 | meeps | Im not helping you when you have an attitude like that Nikos |
| 11:54.58 | streuner_ | nicoco: just ask |
| 11:54.59 | Nikos | if i dotn get an answrr in #ubuntu |
| 11:54.59 | meeps | tbh im a noob, and i know when to stfu |
| 11:55.03 | meeps | you DONT |
| 11:55.07 | meeps | i blame windows. |
| 11:55.09 | Nikos | that wehere the hell i may ask? |
| 11:55.16 | meeps | you could always pick up a book |
| 11:55.19 | meeps | and actually read it |
| 11:55.23 | Ronin | Nikos: in the channel set up for your distro of course |
| 11:55.25 | meeps | instead of expect an office assistant to do it |
| 11:55.26 | meeps | :-) |
| 11:55.28 | dimir | Nikos: how come you ask for ensurance without paying anything? |
| 11:55.29 | nicoco | streuner: is it normal that updating my package x11-common results in installing xfree86-common ? i'm using sid (almost) up-to-date |
| 11:55.32 | stew | !tell meeps about enter |
| 11:55.33 | jm_ | or a mailing list if there is one for Ubuntu, or forums for Ubuntu ... |
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| 11:55.42 | meeps | tell stew about *care* :P |
| 11:55.54 | stew | meeps: please chill out |
| 11:56.02 | Nikos | thats crazy |
| 11:56.03 | nicoco | i thought i didn't need xfree86 anymore as i use xorg... |
| 11:56.09 | Nikos | you have no good reason you dotn want to help me |
| 11:56.10 | sep | meeps, i think that's ubutu too.. isn't it the distro that cares or something ? |
| 11:56.10 | meeps | :< |
| 11:56.14 | Nikos | that clear |
| 11:56.17 | stew | nicoco: that's normal for now, xfree86-common is just a transitional package |
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| 11:56.18 | meeps | lol Sep :D |
| 11:56.23 | streuner_ | nicoco: some depends, nevermind of that |
| 11:56.35 | Free_maN | yop |
| 11:56.36 | nicoco | ok so i'll accept |
| 11:56.38 | nicoco | thanks a lot |
| 11:56.39 | meeps | lol Stew dude, im sorry my punctuation offends you |
| 11:56.48 | meeps | im dyslexic |
| 11:56.50 | dimir | Nikos: I have a good reason not to help you. |
| 11:56.59 | Free_maN | il i a pas un frenchy dans le coin pour m'aider sur bacula |
| 11:57.04 | stew | !fr |
| 11:57.05 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 11:57.06 | nicoco | goodbye folks and thank you ! |
| 11:57.06 | streuner_ | stop feeding him |
| 11:57.06 | meeps | dimir i have multiple reasons :D |
| 11:57.07 | sep | Nikos, many of the users in here that also are familiar with ubutu will be in the channel #ubuntu, for the reason to help ubuntu users. keep things where their ment to me |
| 11:57.09 | Nikos | i dont have a problem ask in ubuntu |
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| 11:57.26 | Nikos | but what if i dotn get an answer? |
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| 11:57.30 | SlayerXP | Nikos: then do so. |
| 11:57.35 | SlayerXP | they're waiting |
| 11:57.40 | Free_maN | yop dpkg suis deja dessus mais bon i dorme |
| 11:57.44 | meeps | stew |
| 11:57.45 | SlayerXP | you're not even in #ubuntu at the mo |
| 11:57.46 | dimir | Nikos: the end of the world will come? |
| 11:57.54 | Free_maN | ^^ |
| 11:57.55 | meeps | are you reading this :< I think i have ever write to "not chill out" :( |
| 11:57.56 | Nikos | ok point taken |
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| 11:58.03 | Nikos | i ll go ask in #ubuntu |
| 11:58.06 | visik7 | why rsync isn't in apt even if ppl mirror repository with rsync ? |
| 11:58.13 | Nikos | sinc ethey are awaiting |
| 11:58.14 | dimir | \o/ |
| 11:58.16 | meeps | Nikos well done, thats what we suggested from about 500 lines ago |
| 11:58.38 | Nikos | well ok |
| 11:58.46 | Nikos | iam going there lets hope they will help |
| 11:59.06 | freelancer | I'm going...oh nevermind... |
| 11:59.08 | meeps | heh |
| 11:59.19 | meeps | im sitting in #ubuntu watching :D |
| 11:59.39 | Nikos | lo meeps |
| 11:59.42 | Nikos | lol meeps |
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| 11:59.51 | freelancer | I'm siting elsewhere... |
| 11:59.56 | H2OyJaBoN | hi hello! |
| 12:00.08 | freelancer | hi H2OyJaBoN |
| 12:00.27 | H2OyJaBoN | i'm trying use the "apt-setup" command but it's no present ... how packages are requeries for use it? |
| 12:00.40 | meeps | heh freelancer you appear to only be sitting in #debian though |
| 12:00.46 | meeps | heh |
| 12:00.51 | meeps | H2OyJaBoN what is the apt-setup command then |
| 12:00.56 | stew | H2OyJaBoN: what version of debian |
| 12:01.00 | jm_ | H2OyJaBoN: /msg dpkg base-config |
| 12:01.25 | freelancer | thats elsewhere isn't it? |
| 12:01.55 | meeps | yes, i suppose :D |
| 12:02.05 | freelancer | :} |
| 12:02.12 | meeps | just finished compiling my mosix kernels |
| 12:02.17 | meeps | "wow it worked" |
| 12:02.22 | freelancer | yayy |
| 12:02.31 | H2OyJaBoN | jm_: ok thank's i'll see it! |
| 12:02.32 | meeps | debian is king for this stuff. |
| 12:02.44 | jm_ | H2OyJaBoN: also /msg dpkg apt-setup |
| 12:02.54 | H2OyJaBoN | stew: sarge 3.1 |
| 12:03.04 | freelancer | I installed x and a display manager... |
| 12:03.09 | stew | H2OyJaBoN: then install base-config |
| 12:03.50 | Nikos | ok theya re helping me :) |
| 12:03.58 | freelancer | atempted installing gnome and something said it may conflict with my mouse/manager... |
| 12:03.59 | meeps | Was sure they would ;-) |
| 12:04.00 | H2OyJaBoN | stew: but is not removed? |
| 12:04.08 | freelancer | yay |
| 12:04.21 | freelancer | one big happy party in #ubuntu |
| 12:04.23 | jm_ | H2OyJaBoN: no, and it's also installed by default |
| 12:05.02 | freelancer | now I have nfi what it was that said that about conflict... |
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| 12:05.10 | stew | H2OyJaBoN: base-config still exists in sarge, just not in etch or sid. |
| 12:05.40 | freelancer | mouse moves sideways whenever it feels like it, damn frustrating |
| 12:06.02 | H2OyJaBoN | stew: ok! |
| 12:06.30 | H2OyJaBoN | thank u guy's!! see u soon i'll read about... |
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| 12:06.54 | stew | something tells me he wasn't actually running sarge anymore |
| 12:06.59 | freelancer | just wish I knew where to start looking... |
| 12:07.00 | meeps | freelancer loose connection? |
| 12:07.22 | meeps | bad tracking maybe? :D |
| 12:07.25 | Vme | has anyone had any trouble upgrading to SID lately? |
| 12:07.41 | freelancer | meeps nar |
| 12:07.45 | Vme | i'm installing a new box and for some reason i keep getting errors on my upgrade |
| 12:07.49 | streuner_ | dpkg, hi |
| 12:07.49 | dpkg | que tal |
| 12:07.51 | stew | Vme: /msg dpkg bat |
| 12:07.52 | streuner_ | hm |
| 12:07.59 | Vme | and its telling me to do a "apt-get -f install" |
| 12:08.03 | freelancer | it worked fine before I fiddled with gnome... |
| 12:08.13 | stew | Vme: did you run "apt-get -f install"? |
| 12:08.18 | Vme | yea |
| 12:08.23 | SlayerXP | <Nikos> man ssh_config(5) |
| 12:08.23 | SlayerXP | <Nikos> why i cannot read this? |
| 12:08.56 | stew | SlayerXP: did you type "man ssh_config(5)" or "man 5 ssh_config"? |
| 12:08.58 | streuner_ | SlayerXP: we know that already... |
| 12:09.05 | sep | SlayerXP, you reading in #ubuntu ? :) |
| 12:09.06 | streuner_ | haha |
| 12:09.10 | SlayerXP | sep: yup |
| 12:09.12 | streuner_ | of course |
| 12:09.21 | Vme | it looks like everything is installed and upgraded now |
| 12:09.25 | sep | perhaps we should all join it's cheaper then a movie ticket |
| 12:09.31 | Vme | but it was definitely something i've never had to do |
| 12:09.55 | meeps | http://bash.org/?99060 |
| 12:09.56 | meeps | :D |
| 12:10.02 | streuner_ | sep: no, its no fun to talk about an issue over 30 min. with no results |
| 12:10.05 | freelancer | unstalled gnome and still have the problem... |
| 12:11.25 | stew | freelancer: have you tried a different mouse to determine if the problem is hardware or software? |
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| 12:12.28 | freelancer | I'm sure the mouse is working ok...its working fine at the moment while I'm using this box |
| 12:12.41 | freelancer | attached to a kvm |
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| 12:12.56 | Roey | Good morning |
| 12:13.02 | freelancer | morning |
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| 12:13.29 | wedge | is it possible to install mysql 4.1 through apt-get on debian 3.1 sarge? |
| 12:13.41 | streuner_ | backports? |
| 12:13.51 | stew | wedge: apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
| 12:13.54 | streuner_ | dpkg, find mysql sarge |
| 12:14.07 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mysql' (7 of 35): (/usr/bin/mysql-admin) in admin/mysql-admin ;; (/etc/IlohaMail/mysqlrc.inc) in web/ilohamail ;; (/usr/bin/shp2mysql.pl) in misc/mapserver-bin ;; (/etc/init.d/teapop-mysql) in mail/teapop-mysql ;; (/etc/cron.daily/mydns-mysql) in net/mydns-mysql ;; (/etc/psad/snort_rules/mysql.rules) in admin/psad ;; (/lib/security/pam_mysql.so) in admin/libpam-mysql. |
| 12:15.01 | wedge | stew: will that update my current databases to support 4.1 behaviour? |
| 12:15.17 | stew | wedge: yes |
| 12:15.22 | wedge | stew: sweet =) *huggle* |
| 12:15.26 | sep | wedge, backup first. otherways no way back |
| 12:15.27 | eps | how can I change the label of a etx3 partition without reformating it? |
| 12:15.28 | wedge | Now Im happy. |
| 12:15.45 | jm_ | eps: man e2label |
| 12:15.58 | wedge | sep: yeah. how's it doing with latin1? or is it the bugged version of mysql which would just do utf8 even though you set it to latin1 in my.cnf? |
| 12:15.58 | Bazy | hello people, can anyone paste me a link on how to build iptables debian packages... is the iptables package build like any other package? |
| 12:16.02 | eps | thanks jm :) |
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| 12:16.24 | stew | Bazy: you want to recompile it? |
| 12:16.49 | eps | jm_ already doing it, and thing for vfat (32)? |
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| 12:16.57 | eps | oh wait, no only need etx3 |
| 12:16.59 | eps | thanks :) |
| 12:17.13 | aw1_ | Hi! Someone proficient with make pattern rules? |
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| 12:17.19 | Bazy | stew I'm using debian stable, I want the latest from netfilter.org, cause I've compiled my kernel with patch-o-matic, IMQ... |
| 12:17.37 | stew | Bazy: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 12:18.21 | stew | Bazy: actually check if backports.org has it first, /msg dpkg backports |
| 12:18.28 | Bazy | stew but deb-src for stable does not have the latest version of iptables... |
| 12:18.54 | stew | Bazy: right, thats why /msg dpkg simple sid backports ; tells you to use deb-src for sid not stable |
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| 12:19.21 | Bazy | stew I got it :-) 10x |
| 12:20.04 | freelancer | mouse didn't work with the manager the first time but I fixed that easy enough: /etc/init.d/gpm stop and then I checked it, it worked fine then so I removed gpm from the runlevel |
| 12:20.13 | andrs | is there a way for changing the start and stop bits for serialmodems in debian? Or some configuration file for the serial port? |
| 12:20.23 | blackfox | can anyone help me as to how i may set up debian on a tablet pc? |
| 12:20.28 | stew | Bazy: but it looks like backports.org has it anyway, http://backports.org/instructions.html |
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| 12:21.08 | stew | andrs: man setserial |
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| 12:26.06 | freelancer | uninstalling gnome I thought would have taken the offending file/ with it... |
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| 12:27.10 | malomalote | which is last glibc for debian |
| 12:27.12 | malomalote | ? |
| 12:27.18 | malomalote | how to install |
| 12:27.19 | malomalote | ? |
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| 12:27.36 | freelancer | apt-get glibc ? |
| 12:27.45 | stew | !info libc6 sid |
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| 12:27.49 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-7 (sid), Packaged size: 4613 kB, Installed size: 10920 kB |
| 12:28.15 | stew | malomalote: why do you ask? |
| 12:28.52 | malomalote | +because |
| 12:28.58 | stew | anyone know what tool will reomve a hostname from known_hosts now that we have the hashed hostname scheme in ssh? the changelog suggests that a tool exists but i don't see one |
| 12:29.04 | malomalote | i have a program that works fine |
| 12:29.12 | malomalote | but wuith last glibc |
| 12:29.16 | malomalote | it says |
| 12:29.23 | malomalote | error double free |
| 12:29.27 | malomalote | or memory |
| 12:29.28 | malomalote | etc |
| 12:29.31 | azeem | malomalote: so your program is buggy |
| 12:29.39 | malomalote | so i do not whay |
| 12:29.42 | malomalote | so i do not why |
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| 12:29.58 | azeem | malomalote: I don't understand |
| 12:30.03 | malomalote | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.03 | malomalote | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.10 | malomalote | the prblem is in frre |
| 12:30.13 | malomalote | the free |
| 12:30.14 | azeem | eh? |
| 12:30.21 | malomalote | if I remove this |
| 12:30.27 | malomalote | glibc dont says nothing |
| 12:30.35 | azeem | malomalote: this channel is not for general programming help |
| 12:30.44 | malomalote | they asked me |
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| 12:31.02 | azeem | malomalote: and as a rule of thumb, glibc is usually right and you are wrong |
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| 12:31.05 | jgreenwood | has anyone successfully got ACPI working on an IBM Thinkpad T42? |
| 12:31.27 | jgreenwood | sus to disk AND sus to RAM? |
| 12:31.31 | malomalote | yes but |
| 12:31.35 | malomalote | the problem is that |
| 12:31.43 | malomalote | i have the glib version |
| 12:31.45 | stew | jgreenwood: /msg dpkg laptops |
| 12:31.54 | malomalote | that does not gives an error |
| 12:32.03 | malomalote | last version says |
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| 12:32.16 | jgreenwood | thanks stew |
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| 12:33.13 | freelancer | no errors in .xsession-errors ... |
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| 12:36.42 | Solet_mod | hey anyone know how to make bluefish editor reparse code for coloring? |
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| 12:36.57 | king | Hey |
| 12:37.12 | xerophyte | I have question which i can not ask in python or php channel :) what is the best for web application considering everything python or php ??? |
| 12:37.21 | king | how can i see the reason some packages are kept back from being upgraded? |
| 12:37.40 | king | xerophyte: i like php |
| 12:38.00 | _ericb | hi all |
| 12:38.03 | stew | king: apt-get -s install packagename ; and see which packages it's going to add or remove |
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| 12:38.24 | _ericb | the debian sarge installer didn't asked me if I wanted to add the non-free repository to apt sources.list.. do this repository still exists ? |
| 12:38.39 | king | stew: if i do "apt-get upgrade" i see 157 packages that its keeping back |
| 12:38.43 | king | but not why |
| 12:39.00 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:39.00 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:39.03 | stew | king: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 12:39.12 | king | :) |
| 12:40.52 | sohmestra | xerophyte: python => django (www.djangoproject.com) |
| 12:40.56 | meeps | heh |
| 12:41.02 | meeps | django templates for the world :-) |
| 12:41.32 | meeps | yes! does the boring / monotenous work , while you can get on with the real problems :D |
| 12:41.37 | freelancer | brb |
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| 12:42.16 | meeps | i still thinkg sohmestra there sight is something to be desired ;\ |
| 12:42.18 | meeps | *site |
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| 12:42.31 | meeps | its actually surprisingly messy , considering django rocks ;-) |
| 12:42.37 | freelancer | front |
| 12:42.49 | visik7 | if u need to put your site on some hosting service you'll be in difficult to find someone who provide python support |
| 12:42.50 | meeps | oh actually its not too bad :) |
| 12:43.00 | meeps | visik7 thats true |
| 12:43.04 | meeps | Some of us are ISP's |
| 12:43.23 | meeps | I cant see joe bloggs using python and django framework, hmm , maybe i am wrong :) |
| 12:43.27 | sohmestra | meeps: I prefer to think of it as "information packed" |
| 12:43.36 | meeps | haha |
| 12:43.38 | freelancer | lol |
| 12:43.55 | sohmestra | visik7: python-hosting.com |
| 12:43.56 | meeps | its ok sohmestra the cute little mouseovers bought me. |
| 12:43.59 | meeps | :-) |
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| 12:44.40 | meeps | hope its not an LCD :) |
| 12:44.43 | meeps | *G* |
| 12:44.52 | freelancer | nar |
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| 12:45.23 | sohmestra | meeps: x is a variable, it can be anything you like |
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| 12:45.30 | meeps | ohh |
| 12:45.39 | meeps | i thought he meant XFree86 :) |
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| 12:45.54 | freelancer | meeps I did mean that |
| 12:45.56 | sohmestra | he probably did |
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| 12:46.38 | freelancer | yawn |
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| 12:47.00 | ColD_7 | i am trying to download debian iso image, can i know what is the different between binary 1, binary 2, and so on? |
| 12:47.14 | ColD_7 | i just have to choose 1 of the binary and download it? |
| 12:47.16 | jm_ | !tell ColD_7 -about cd contents |
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| 12:49.41 | sep | ColD_7, i recoemend these cd images http://www.us.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 12:54.35 | ColD_7 | sep, those image only install the debian, right? |
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| 12:54.56 | somePriest | Is there an unbuffered equivalent to the `od` command? I want to watch activity on the serial port (I'm doing some serial programming I'm trying to debug) |
| 12:54.56 | ColD_7 | i have to download the applications that i want from the net? |
| 12:56.11 | Bazy | sep netinstall is the best... cause you get a very small linux, and then, you can apt-get or aptitude install packages you need |
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| 12:56.55 | ColD_7 | i think that is great too |
| 12:57.11 | ColD_7 | cause it is possible to get rid of the packages that we don't need |
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| 12:57.41 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 12:57.59 | RvGaTe | Will PsyBNC be included within Etch? |
| 12:58.19 | azeem | ribnitz: your ircname has superfluous quotation |
| 12:58.38 | ribnitz | azeem: huh? |
| 12:58.49 | azeem | ircname : "robert ribnitz" |
| 12:59.03 | ribnitz | oh. :) |
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| 12:59.47 | stew | RvGaTe: it doens't appear to currently be in debian. have you checked wnpp to see if a rfp or a itp has been filed? is it free software? |
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| 13:00.25 | Vme | This version of udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.12, upgrade aborted. |
| 13:00.57 | Gnea | Vme: that's right. |
| 13:01.13 | ribnitz | Vme: udev wants at least 2.6.12 |
| 13:01.20 | Vme | so i need to recompile the kernel before i can complete the SID upgrade |
| 13:01.31 | Gnea | s/wants/needs/g |
| 13:01.34 | ribnitz | Vme: get a prepackaged one? |
| 13:01.51 | Gnea | Vme: or just install linux-image-2.6.16 (whatever the latest is) |
| 13:01.51 | Vme | yea, that will work for now |
| 13:02.06 | Vme | can i just use apt-get to do that? |
| 13:02.15 | ribnitz | my scanner wants hotplug to work, but I want to use usbmount (which conflicts with hotplug)... |
| 13:02.17 | stew | Vme: /msg dpkg sid upgrade kernel |
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| 13:03.22 | Gnea | Vme: yup, then reboot into it and install udev from there |
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| 13:05.57 | Vme | hrm |
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| 13:06.05 | Vme | it won't let me use apt-get |
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| 13:06.14 | Vme | because its asking me to do apt-get -f install |
| 13:06.23 | Vme | and when i do that i get the previous error |
| 13:07.19 | stew | Vme: download the kernel package from http://packages.debian.org/ directly and install it with dpkg -i |
| 13:07.45 | aavv | Vme: use apt-get download only option for the kernel image, then install it with dpkg (useing "force "if still won't cooperate =) |
| 13:08.28 | ranpha | question trying to format a 300gb disk to ext3. But after the format suddenly 50gb is gone. is this the journal? |
| 13:08.53 | jm_ | ranpha: no |
| 13:08.55 | stew | ranpha: 50gb or 50mb? its likely the inodes |
| 13:08.56 | aavv | ranpha: and default 5% reserved space for root |
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| 13:09.02 | pharm | ranpha: hard disk manufacturers lie. Plus there's some filesystem overhead. |
| 13:09.10 | sussudio | ranpha: yes. it's called "getting screwed by harddisk manufacturers" |
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| 13:09.18 | ifvoid | pharm: no, they just use correct units |
| 13:09.19 | aavv | =) |
| 13:09.33 | tralala | ranpha: a 300gb disk does not 300gb disk space |
| 13:09.44 | pharm | ifvoid: Depends on your POV :) |
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| 13:10.07 | ranpha | 50gigabyte....i know about the screwing but 50 gigbayte for a inodes ...come on ....i'm trying to conver my ntfs to ext3...this will cost me like 150gigabyte and i only use it for storage |
| 13:10.08 | ifvoid | 2^30 just doesn;t make sense |
| 13:10.11 | tralala | not have* |
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| 13:11.53 | pharm | ranpha: 1. It's not a 300 Gig harddrive. In powers of 2 units, its a 279 G hard drive. 2. You loose some to FS overhead. You can get back the 5% ext3 reserves for root only with tune2fs though. |
| 13:12.07 | pharm | drat. s/loose/lose/ |
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| 13:13.37 | ranpha | Pharm: 5% of 279 is still 13 gb.......why the 50??? |
| 13:13.37 | Vme | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 depends on initramfs-tools | yaird | linux-initramfs-tool; |
| 13:13.39 | Vme | man |
| 13:13.47 | Vme | i used to have no problems with debian |
| 13:13.49 | Vme | i love it |
| 13:14.07 | Vme | but its not so easy this time |
| 13:14.41 | Vme | should have just stayed with SARGE |
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| 13:15.06 | [1]eric_hill | Hello all. Anyone here set up Kerberos on the latest Debian Stable? |
| 13:15.19 | aavv | Vme: you can remove udev and install it later |
| 13:15.28 | tralala | !win Vme |
| 13:15.28 | dpkg | Congratulations, Vme! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 13:15.53 | Vme | lol |
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| 13:17.30 | tralala | Vme: you know I've always had that funny feeling deep inside that there must be a reason why they call them differently - stable and unstable |
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| 13:18.13 | abrotman | EricH: that's kind of vague |
| 13:18.14 | eps | was 2.6.12 compiled with gcc4 or 3.4? |
| 13:18.24 | ranpha | i will try to format again..but what is the good command..last time i tried my whole machine was frozen |
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| 13:18.53 | stew | eps: 4 |
| 13:19.04 | triangle | hello? |
| 13:19.07 | eps | stew thanks; |
| 13:19.25 | EricH | I'm trying to set up a KDC and getting an error "kadmin: Illegal configuration parameter for remote KADM5 client while initializing kadmin interface" when running kadmin with a local "-d somename" option. |
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| 13:21.17 | abrotman | eps: cat /proc/version .. should give oyu a hint |
| 13:21.22 | pharm | ranpha: It's not 50. |
| 13:21.43 | eps | abrotman was just after a rough yes no thanks :) |
| 13:21.53 | ranpha | pharm: it says on my disk that 50gb is gone... |
| 13:21.58 | abrotman | eps: well .. it's a better way to tell .. in general |
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| 13:22.09 | markit | hi, I've debian sid and I've found that I've some xfree86 packages installed in "rc" state... is it save to --purge tem? (the configuration will be removed) |
| 13:22.28 | markit | xfree86-common and xserver-xfree86 |
| 13:22.34 | eps | abrotman yeah a friend was getting an error when trying to install nvidia and he had gcc 3.4 and 2.6.12 |
| 13:22.38 | eps | should be sorted now |
| 13:22.47 | pharm | ranpha: unless you quote some real numbers, I have no idea what you're talking about. 50gb gone from what? what were the original sizes? what's the size of the fs now, what's in /proc/partitions. Capiche? |
| 13:22.48 | tralala | markit: if you don't need their configuration, then yes |
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| 13:23.17 | markit | tralala: hehe, the question is: has xorg separate configs? or does it use the xfree ones? |
| 13:23.26 | abrotman | eps: yep .. that's a pretty good reason :) |
| 13:23.49 | aavv | it's "capisce" |
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| 13:24.10 | tralala | markit: having the same config is forbidden by the debian policy iinm |
| 13:24.17 | ranpha | first i need to reformat the disk...what's the proper command for that? |
| 13:24.19 | pharm | aavv: is it? Shows what I know... |
| 13:24.33 | pharm | ranpha: Why on earth do you need to reformat the disc? |
| 13:24.41 | aavv | pharm: =) |
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| 13:25.14 | visik7 | pharm: change the FS ? |
| 13:25.22 | ranpha | pharm: because i fooled around with it yesterday because i thought it was damaged. it's now a unformatted disk |
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| 13:25.29 | tralala | markit: of course any sid package could be breaking the policy |
| 13:25.40 | visik7 | ranpha: mkfs.<filesystem> /dev/hdXY |
| 13:25.44 | ranpha | pharm: and last time i format on debian the whole system frooze thereover it thought it was damaged |
| 13:27.02 | pharm | ranpha: if the system froze that the disc is probably dead. Return it and get a new one. |
| 13:27.06 | tralala | ranpha: you aren't trying to format the root partition of a running system, are you? |
| 13:27.29 | pharm | tralala: See, you're more cynical than I am. That hadn't occurred to me... |
| 13:27.36 | markit | tralala: wondering if someone has done this and can give me advices on it |
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| 13:28.16 | ranpha | no i trying to format a maxtor external disk...but it isn't dead because on windows everthing works great.... |
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| 13:28.53 | freelancer | one of my hdd died one night, had smoke comming out of it |
| 13:28.56 | tralala | pharm: errr, thanks... (I suppose) |
| 13:29.11 | aavv | ranpha: external, USB? |
| 13:29.25 | ranpha | USB 2.0. |
| 13:29.59 | aavv | ranpha: if is an USB issue, you should find some error messages in the syslog |
| 13:31.07 | ranpha | pharm: i will check but first thsi i tried mkfs.ext3 but i get this error Invalid argument passed to ext2 libary while setting up superblock |
| 13:31.22 | tralala | freelancer: usb xp, perhaps... |
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| 13:31.58 | freelancer | tralala yeah proberly...or even USB Vista |
| 13:32.00 | freelancer | heh |
| 13:32.29 | ranpha | freelancer: and that the excat reason why i want Debian....i really don't want Vista on my computers |
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| 13:32.57 | freelancer | ranpha me either |
| 13:33.03 | freelancer | *shudder* |
| 13:33.03 | aavv | pharm: eh, seems i can't use the "-c -c" option of mkfs (= |
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| 13:33.11 | ranpha | mmm fdisk can't read my disk......how can i repartion the disk in debian? |
| 13:33.16 | weary | hi.. after sync'ing the newest kernel i can get is a 2.6.8. how can this be? |
| 13:33.30 | tralala | ranpha: what is the device name you're using? |
| 13:33.38 | liable | weary: cause thats what sarge gas |
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| 13:33.55 | ranpha | tralala: /dev/sdg1 |
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| 13:34.11 | weary | liable: i have testing. that's not sarge, is it? |
| 13:34.18 | ranpha | weary :no |
| 13:34.24 | liable | weary: nope, try linux-image |
| 13:34.27 | tralala | ranpha: for fdisk you need /dev/sdg (assuming that this is the correct name) |
| 13:34.36 | weary | yeah, that's the thing i'm using |
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| 13:34.47 | tralala | weary: linux-image |
| 13:35.00 | jm_ | no you're not |
| 13:35.02 | liable | weary: show us your sources list and the result from searching |
| 13:35.06 | locus | anyone know if its possible to set up one drbd nfs server and then adding and synching a hot-standby server later on during the master drbd server is up and running? |
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| 13:37.02 | jair | hey guys, normally if I am installing java I should place it in the /usr/java? |
| 13:37.07 | bk_ankur | I have done 2 changes one in /etc/sysctl.conf by adding "kernel/printk = 3 4 1 7" and also added -r option in /etc/init.d/syslogd scrip at "start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $binpath -- $SYSLOGD -r". But still i am getting IP Packets dump on console.. any other suggestions please.. :-) |
| 13:37.17 | ranpha | tralala: okay got it...so sdg is the whole disk i see.....it's formating the whole disk now..will take a while |
| 13:37.19 | jair | I know that will run and works from /home/user too. |
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| 13:37.37 | jair | but ideally should be where the other applications are. |
| 13:37.38 | jm_ | did you run sysctl -a after that? |
| 13:37.38 | jair | right |
| 13:37.40 | abrotman | bk_ankur: ask #iptables |
| 13:38.03 | jm_ | no not -a, -p |
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| 13:39.04 | tup | bk_ankur: dmesg -n1 |
| 13:39.23 | jair | hello/ |
| 13:39.25 | jair | ? |
| 13:39.28 | jair | sorry |
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| 13:39.53 | bk_ankur | jm_ : yes. i am getting after sysctl -p " net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 kernel.printk = 3 4 1 7" |
| 13:39.59 | Vme | what kernel should i be using for a Celeron D 2.53GHz? |
| 13:40.07 | abrotman | is it dual core? |
| 13:40.09 | Vme | no |
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| 13:40.21 | stew | Vme: a -686 kernel |
| 13:40.22 | abrotman | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 13:40.28 | stew | he's on sid |
| 13:40.31 | SlayerXP | Vme: any i386, i486, i586 or i686 kernel will do |
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| 13:40.34 | jm_ | bk_ankur: no not like that |
| 13:40.38 | jeanmi__ | hi |
| 13:40.42 | abrotman | stew: there are still transitional packages no? |
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| 13:40.50 | abrotman | !info kernel-image-2.6-686 sid |
| 13:40.54 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6-686: (Linux kernel 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines - transition package), section base, is extra. Version: 1:2.6.16-10 (sid), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
| 13:40.57 | abrotman | yay! |
| 13:40.59 | tralala | ranpha: generally you want to create a partition and to create a fs on that partition. I'm not sure if it is ok to create fs directly. |
| 13:41.07 | stew | news to stew |
| 13:41.10 | freelancer | hrmm... |
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| 13:41.25 | Vme | yea |
| 13:41.28 | Vme | that is what i got |
| 13:41.29 | bk_ankur | and after doing sysctl -a , i found the value "kernel.printk = 7 4 1 7" |
| 13:41.40 | weary | tralala: thanks lots, i used different name :) |
| 13:41.54 | jm_ | bk_ankur: which just proves you didn't do it as you should |
| 13:42.14 | ranpha | mmm i didn't want to format the /sdg1 only the sdg |
| 13:42.23 | jm_ | bk_ankur: sysctl -p, no options, read the man page |
| 13:42.31 | Vme | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6.15-1-686: |
| 13:42.31 | Vme | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.47 | abrotman | Vme: apt-get update .. then try again |
| 13:42.48 | jeanmi__ | my keyboard layout is somehow wrong (the > and 'smaller than') key do not respond. A colleague has the same laptop with ubuntu and it works for him. So, where is the keyboard layout configuration ? so that I can copy his config to my debian |
| 13:43.05 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 13:43.05 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 13:43.15 | atsi | i have an external usb hard drive and it is in ntfs format. when i am trying to mount it gives me only read access. how can i have write access as well?plz prefix |
| 13:43.15 | Vme | same |
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| 13:43.26 | stew | Vme: install yaird |
| 13:43.27 | jeanmi__ | abrotman fine, but how about the files ? |
| 13:43.35 | jeanmi__ | abrotman where is that conf exactly located |
| 13:43.37 | liable | plz prefix? |
| 13:43.40 | bk_ankur | jm_ : my sysctl.conf http://pastebin.com/697981 |
| 13:43.44 | tralala | ranpha: that could work or not. Personally I haven't done anything like that. |
| 13:43.46 | freelancer | ok seeyas next time |
| 13:43.54 | freelancer | bye |
| 13:43.57 | abrotman | jeanmi__: for X or for console ? |
| 13:43.58 | liable | atsi: ntfs writing isnt really well supported |
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| 13:44.08 | jeanmi__ | abrotman any |
| 13:44.25 | atsi | liable, i know all the risks. go on. tell me then. ;) |
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| 13:44.27 | abrotman | jeanmi__: they have different locations .. the X one should be in the X config file |
| 13:44.34 | Vme | screw it |
| 13:44.36 | Vme | i'm reinstalling :) |
| 13:44.40 | liable | atsi: google captive ntfs though |
| 13:44.44 | Vme | upgrade my kernel before i go to sid |
| 13:44.47 | jeanmi__ | abrotman and the console one ? |
| 13:45.03 | tombs | hi all |
| 13:45.19 | ranpha | tralala: he is writing the inode tables now but first it goes okay but no it seems to be stuck at 1098/2236....and won't go further...do i need to wait or reboot???nothing moves anymore not even my mouse |
| 13:45.30 | abrotman | jeanmi__: i'd have to poke around ... i don't recall off hand |
| 13:45.32 | atsi | liable, captive ntfs? |
| 13:45.50 | liable | atsi: didnt i say google? |
| 13:46.03 | abrotman | maybe in /etc/console-tools/ |
| 13:46.15 | atsi | liable, sorry. misundersatnding. |
| 13:46.18 | abrotman | jeanmi__: /msg dpkg keymap .. it should tell you how to change it to get what you want |
| 13:46.43 | jeanmi__ | ok thanks |
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| 13:47.05 | tralala | ranpha: does dmesg show any usb errors? |
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| 13:48.05 | ranpha | tralala: can't even typ..i'm chatting on another computer.. strange thing is that when i format on windows using partion magic 8 everthing goes great |
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| 13:48.42 | tralala | ranpha: what kernel are you using? |
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| 13:49.01 | bk_ankur | jm_ : thank you very much.. now its working i got the value 3 4 1 7 in sysctl -A. After doing sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 13:49.36 | ranpha | the standard 2.6 kernel that comes wiht sarge..don't know the excat number |
| 13:49.52 | aavv | ranpha: it's definitly a USB problem, to be sure you should try to connect the HD directly to an ide/sata port |
| 13:49.58 | tralala | ranpha: maybe it's a kernel/driver bug. Try the bts and the linux bugreports |
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| 13:52.03 | ranpha | tralala : bts where is that? |
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| 13:52.09 | tralala | !bts |
| 13:52.09 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 18:16.51 | *** topic/#debian is xorg 7.0 in unstable, BEWARE UNSTABLE: http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfUnstable | Sarge r2 is out! | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | NOTE: this is NOT #ubuntu. | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 18:17.07 | tralala | raf256`: then what's the point of having a new key? |
| 18:17.11 | jethro | :] |
| 18:17.16 | xface | rgrep NEL "for f in * ; do file "$f" ; done" |
| 18:17.21 | xface | that i mean sorry |
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| 18:18.59 | iter | those aol cds would come in handy with that lego cd-flinger |
| 18:19.20 | jethro | iter: don't even think about touching my aol cds |
| 18:19.26 | iter | http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/hammerhead-the-lego-cd-thrower |
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| 18:20.20 | callee | is there a dyndns provider supporting ipv6? |
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| 18:22.55 | enricoenrico | people |
| 18:22.58 | enricoenrico | help me |
| 18:23.07 | callee | enricoenrico: no |
| 18:23.31 | _rain | enricoenrico: if we can |
| 18:23.46 | callee | _rain: atm we cant |
| 18:23.50 | enricoenrico | when i try to install netinst of debian the loading of modules freeze at 91 per cent.."scsi disk support" |
| 18:23.55 | enricoenrico | why? |
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| 18:24.08 | callee | enricoenrico: because you didnt tell us your problem |
| 18:24.15 | sohmestra | enricoenrico: try doing a linux26 install |
| 18:24.28 | enricoenrico | ok......... |
| 18:24.43 | callee | enricoenrico: if you are using beta installer, try stable first and upgrade to testing/unstable later |
| 18:24.51 | enricoenrico | no |
| 18:24.58 | enricoenrico | i have a stable version |
| 18:25.21 | enricoenrico | i try linux26..... |
| 18:25.34 | _rain | enricoenrico: also, try switching to tty2 or tty3 (i forget where the log is) and see if it tells you anything more |
| 18:25.35 | enricoenrico | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.49 | enricoenrico | what is tty2...? |
| 18:25.54 | enricoenrico | other terminal? |
| 18:25.58 | sohmestra | enricoenrico: yes |
| 18:26.01 | _rain | press alt+ctrl+F2 |
| 18:26.08 | enricoenrico | ooooooooooooooooooook! |
| 18:26.08 | sohmestra | enricoenrico: ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 18:26.14 | enricoenrico | ig go |
| 18:26.16 | _rain | or alt+ctrl+F3 |
| 18:26.16 | enricoenrico | i go |
| 18:26.20 | enricoenrico | :D |
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| 18:26.57 | iter | you nick should be enrico^2 to save space |
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| 18:28.28 | unforgettableid | hi all, if i wish Emacs longlines.el was in Debian, should I email the emacs-goodies maintainer? |
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| 18:28.44 | dondelelcaro | unforgettableid: sure |
| 18:28.56 | dondelelcaro | unforgettableid: better to file a wishlist bug against emacs-goodies asking for it to be included though |
| 18:30.19 | unforgettableid | dondelelcaro: good idea, thx. |
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| 18:33.18 | dos000 | hi ... i keep getting in sarge "could not save history to file "/var/lib/postgres/.psql_history": No such file or directory |
| 18:33.18 | dos000 | " i installed 8.1 from backports so there could be a version/dir skew |
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| 18:33.36 | dondelelcaro | dos000: uh... you do have a /var/lib/posgres right? |
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| 18:33.50 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, its postgresql |
| 18:33.50 | dondelelcaro | dos000: what's the homedir of your postgres user |
| 18:34.11 | dondelelcaro | dos000: then you need to fix the homedirectory of your postgres user so that it points to a directory that actually exists |
| 18:34.13 | unforgettableid | why do apps give such useless "No such file or directory" messages? why doesn't someone come up with a message "No such file or directory %s"? |
| 18:34.41 | dondelelcaro | unforgettableid: because that error comes from the err number; the application knows what file it tried to open. |
| 18:34.47 | Blissex | unforgettableid: there are lots of morons, and even your second version is wrong. |
| 18:34.48 | petemc | unforgettableid: you'll find most apps will take patches |
| 18:34.52 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, its points to /var/lib ! .. thnaks for the info |
| 18:34.55 | Daedalus_ | unforgettableid: you're suppose to use your 1337 abilities to sense what the app is trying to do ;) |
| 18:35.19 | unforgettableid | but I'm not l33t!!!1!!11!1!11!11!1 |
| 18:35.26 | unforgettableid | :( |
| 18:35.32 | Blissex | unforgettableid: even if your second version is better than the first. But what if the name of the file is empty or misleading. |
| 18:35.38 | deadcat | anyone know the status of xgl on debian? |
| 18:35.46 | dondelelcaro | unforgettableid: that's why in this case postgres said that it wasn't able to save to /var/lib/postgres/.psql_history, the reason being that there was no file or directory |
| 18:35.50 | Daedalus_ | unforgettableid: tongue in cheek |
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| 18:36.02 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: AFAIK, there isn't even a ITP or RFP; but I haven't checked in a while. |
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| 18:36.05 | sohmestra | deadcat: /msg dpkg xgl |
| 18:36.06 | unforgettableid | i know, i was joking too, hence the 1's |
| 18:36.09 | unforgettableid | :) |
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| 18:36.22 | bobdole | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/gvteCZ33.html |
| 18:36.29 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: oh.. maybe we still have to wait for 7.0 to get more stable first? |
| 18:36.29 | bobdole | What is wrong with my /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 18:36.30 | unforgettableid | the worst is learning to build nethack. |
| 18:36.44 | bobdole | I want my box to automatically connect to eth0 and have everything work, when my system boots I have to type "dhclient eth0" |
| 18:37.01 | bobdole | I want it so when it boots that is done automatically with /etc/network/interfaces what is wrong with my file? |
| 18:37.02 | dondelelcaro | bobdole: you need an auto eth0; line, and an iface eth0 inet dhcp; line. |
| 18:37.04 | unforgettableid | oops, I mean DevTeam :) |
| 18:37.13 | dondelelcaro | bobdole: man 5 interfaces; for details |
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| 18:38.03 | sohmestra | bobdole: make sure you /etc/network/interfaces contains: iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 18:38.15 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, i am having a permission issue with postgres. i have been to #postgres and they thing its a debian issue :-( i changed pg_hba so many times i still cant get authenticated |
| 18:38.51 | unforgettableid | dos000: why not just remove --purge what you have now, and use the version in Debian stable instead? |
| 18:38.54 | dondelelcaro | dos000: first, what version of postgresql are you using? second, what have you changed in the default debian configuration to postgresql? |
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| 18:39.06 | jair | hello guys :) |
| 18:39.11 | unforgettableid | hi |
| 18:39.11 | Nin_ | hi there! |
| 18:39.15 | jair | haha |
| 18:39.16 | dondelelcaro | unforgettableid: purging isn't necessary. |
| 18:39.18 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, this was working in 7.4.1 .. as soon as i installed 8.1 its start failing authentication |
| 18:39.27 | jair | finally I can get the irssi works for me. |
| 18:39.33 | unforgettableid | dondelelcaro: can it hurt? |
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| 18:39.55 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, i purged rm -rf so many times ! |
| 18:39.58 | jair | but it looks like my name is white and the screen is white so I can not see it haha. |
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| 18:40.16 | Ronin | jair: time to change your term colours at least |
| 18:40.18 | jair | jelly: how are you doing today? |
| 18:41.12 | jelly | jair: fine, you? I'm just leaving work. |
| 18:41.13 | dondelelcaro | dos000: the configuration for 8.1 is totally different from 7.4.1 |
| 18:41.32 | dondelelcaro | dos000: first off, what is failing? can you connect to the database as the postgresql user? |
| 18:41.39 | jelly | jair: be back in about an hour from home. |
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| 18:41.57 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, i only changed the pg_hba.conf to include my ip address |
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| 18:42.17 | dondelelcaro | dos000: what does the pg_hba.conf look like now? |
| 18:42.20 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, yes i can when i su as postgres |
| 18:42.36 | dondelelcaro | dos000: then postgresql is working, you've just screwed up the pg_hba. |
| 18:42.53 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, host all all 192.168.33.21/32 md5 |
| 18:42.57 | dondelelcaro | dos000: are you using password authentication or per user authentication? |
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| 18:43.20 | mlivneh | can someone help me out? my wireless card is conf'd correctly; on boot it sets the correct essid, but it doesn't pull a dhcp lease. i have to "sudo dhclient wlan0" manually. my /etc/network/interfaces file is here: http://pastebin.com/698526 |
| 18:43.45 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, where can i see what is failing .. btw i am trying to connect using pgadmin3. |
| 18:43.51 | dondelelcaro | dos000: is that your machine's ip? |
| 18:44.22 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, yes |
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| 18:44.27 | dos000 | the server ip |
| 18:44.38 | dondelelcaro | dos000: if it is, then you specify it like host all all 192.168.33.21 255.255.255.255 md5; or similar |
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| 18:45.01 | dos000 | i tried that .. did not work as well |
| 18:45.02 | dondelelcaro | dos000: then restart the postgresql server, and check what the server logs sasy |
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| 18:45.13 | dondelelcaro | dos000: that's great, but that's what it has to say. |
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| 18:45.49 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, the default was host all all 127.0.0.1/32 md5 |
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| 18:46.03 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, i still have that in there |
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| 18:46.10 | Nin_ | hi fernando_ |
| 18:46.10 | dondelelcaro | dos000: you have to keep that line, as well as adding the next line below it. |
| 18:46.13 | Nin_ | where're you from? |
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| 18:46.46 | dondelelcaro | dos000: then connect from the server using psql -H psqlservername -U someuserwithpassword foodatabase; |
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| 18:47.11 | is_null | hello, each time i install debian from netinst cd, i get : segmentation fault; <6>Journalled Block Devic driver loaded; pivot_root: no such file or directory; /sbin/init: 632: cannot open dev/console: No such file; Kernel panic: attempted to kill init!; one other machies; i have successfully installed debian (on the machine i am trying on also) |
| 18:47.24 | dondelelcaro | is_null: which netinst cd? |
| 18:47.24 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, i still get FATAL: no pg_hba.conf entry for host "192.168.33.21", user "postgres", database "template1", SSL off |
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| 18:47.43 | dondelelcaro | dos000: which pg_hba.conf are you editing? |
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| 18:49.32 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, according to #postgresql it should be a soft link located in /var/lib/postgresql/8.1/main pointing to /etc/postgresql/8.1/main/pg_hba.conf. I had to put the soft link since the installer did not make it |
| 18:50.02 | Serinity | Hi everyone, anyone knows an equivalent of mysql-navigator for postgres please ? |
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| 18:50.21 | vinsci | just installed the new xserver-xorg-video-v4l package today, but still no video in Linux 2.6.16-1-k7. The Xorg module loads fine in Xorg, according to the log. Using nvidia. Any ideas? |
| 18:50.43 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, this cluster f* is making me sick |
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| 18:54.21 | is_null | dondelelcaro : downloaded last week a sarge 3.1, hownever, i was not installing 2.6; i am now trying linux26 boot option |
| 18:55.05 | dondelelcaro | dos000: what installer? the postinst script does that when it creates the main cluster. |
| 18:55.16 | dondelelcaro | dos000: have you restarted the postgresql server? |
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| 18:55.29 | dondelelcaro | Serinity: you're better off learning how to use the sql command line and using htat. |
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| 18:56.04 | abrotman | Serinity: 'psql' is pretty good. |
| 18:56.49 | Serinity | dondelelcaro, I know how to use it with all it's \dt \d and all, thank you, it's just i have a table with a lot of fields and they are all one over the other one, like it happens for mysql-client.... this is messy because on line becomes four lines without clear separation... |
| 18:57.03 | Serinity | and yes, i agree, out of this detail, psql is pretty good |
| 18:57.14 | Serinity | I use it everyday without a problem, out of this |
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| 18:59.14 | abrotman | Serinity: have you looked at Tora ? |
| 18:59.28 | Serinity | no, but i'm going to |
| 18:59.57 | abrotman | !info tora sarge |
| 19:00.06 | dpkg | tora: (A graphical toolkit for database developers and administrators), section misc, is optional. Version: 1.3.16-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 3427 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB |
| 19:00.18 | Serinity | thank you abrotman |
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| 19:00.38 | abrotman | Serinity: of course .. you'd have to open 5432 up to TCP connections |
| 19:00.57 | dondelelcaro | Serinity: use less as the pager with -S |
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| 19:01.19 | abrotman | Serinity: be warned .. i've never used Tora .. so it could vaporize all your data :) |
| 19:01.29 | abrotman | and why i'm smiling about that .. i have no idea |
| 19:01.30 | Serinity | abrotman, dondelelcaro ok, thanks :) |
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| 19:01.42 | Serinity | abrotman, doesn't matter, still at developpement stage :) |
| 19:01.50 | Serinity | lol :) |
| 19:02.01 | Serinity | sadism maybe ;) |
| 19:02.01 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- Now you might yell at me and think "this has nothing to do with Debian" but it does... |
| 19:03.14 | SexyKen | ...I have installed PHP4 & Apache & mySQL using Debian packages. Somehow, I need to include functionality into php for Verisign Payflow...normally this is done by adding a compile variable or whatever they're called.... |
| 19:03.16 | stew | SexyKen: this has nothing to do with debian. |
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| 19:03.30 | SexyKen | How would I do this in Debian? |
| 19:03.38 | stew | :) you asked for that |
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| 19:04.33 | stew | SexyKen: /msg dpkg debian/rules ; /msg dpkg source ; i could have sworn however that i've done payflowpro before without having to recompile php |
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| 19:04.56 | stew | SexyKen: what variable are you looking to add? |
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| 19:05.42 | SexyKen | stew: Well I'm told I have to: configure --with-pfpro=/usr/local/verisign/payflowpro/myArch |
| 19:06.10 | abrotman | Serinity: btw .. from what i understand .. you can use Tora for other RDBMS |
| 19:06.12 | SexyKen | For PHP to work with it -- but I really would prefer not to recompile the packaged version of PHP for Debian |
| 19:06.18 | unforgettableid | why are all the people in the channel sexy all of a sudden? what changed? :) |
| 19:06.35 | Serinity | abrotman, yes, seems so, i'm just starting it to check :) |
| 19:06.39 | Serinity | thank you again :) |
| 19:06.40 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: i assume payflow pro is closed source? :( |
| 19:07.01 | SexyKen | Unforgettableid: What do you mean? |
| 19:07.04 | stew | SexyKen: then add that to debian/rules |
| 19:07.12 | SexyKen | Hrm |
| 19:07.42 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: that means they don't give the source code away for free. |
| 19:07.55 | abrotman | Serinity: and if your data goes poof .. please don't kill me! |
| 19:08.16 | unforgettableid | you can't kill ppl over the internet -- bash.org top 10 proves it. |
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| 19:08.19 | unforgettableid | :) |
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| 19:08.50 | unforgettableid | wasn't PECL supposed to make recompiling PHP to add extensions unneeded? |
| 19:08.53 | SexyKen | stew: So you're saying that I should use the deb ssource package? |
| 19:09.14 | strankan_ | anyone know how to start mrxvt with a custom icon? |
| 19:09.27 | unforgettableid | strankan_: why? |
| 19:09.30 | unforgettableid | :) |
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| 19:09.53 | stew | SexyKen: yes |
| 19:09.58 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: yes. apt-get source $NAME_OF_PHP_PACKAGE |
| 19:10.07 | strankan_ | using openbox with gnome-panel, and the icon in that panel is really ugly :) |
| 19:10.10 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: then edit the debian/rules file inside. |
| 19:10.31 | SexyKen | I've never compiled from source -- is that a better way than apt-get install? |
| 19:10.41 | Serinity | abrotman, As i said, it's still in developpement... for datas are more like fuihgeguihdgiweif to fill the fields :P |
| 19:10.49 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: no |
| 19:10.51 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:10.53 | SexyKen | It's not? |
| 19:11.00 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: but it sounds like you have no choice. |
| 19:11.13 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: can I ask, how much is your organization spending on PFPro? |
| 19:11.39 | unforgettableid | strankan_: if it really is that ugly, you could always email the proper maintainer a suggestion for a different icon to use :) |
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| 19:11.58 | unforgettableid | strankan_: i don't know the answer to your original question tho, sorry. :) |
| 19:11.58 | SexyKen | unforgettableid: I am not entirely sure the agreements we have -- some yucky monthly cost plus a somewhat high % fee of each transaction |
| 19:12.15 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: for that price, they should give you free technical support. |
| 19:12.18 | unforgettableid | :) |
| 19:12.37 | SexyKen | What price? ;-) |
| 19:12.44 | unforgettableid | their product is closed source. Debian is open source, made by volunteers and given away for free. |
| 19:12.47 | unforgettableid | SexyKen: $100000000000000 |
| 19:12.50 | unforgettableid | :) |
| 19:12.54 | strankan_ | unforgett: np, will keep searching |
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| 19:17.38 | abrotman | !moo |
| 19:17.38 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 19:18.40 | byteshack | we have debian stable running on our system, does someone know of more up-to-date nagios packages for stable? |
| 19:18.47 | byteshack | the ones in the repository are SUPER OLD |
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| 19:19.45 | [TechGuy] | Anyone have any random idea why aptitude would suddenly die with a SIGABRT upon execution? |
| 19:19.50 | Supaplex | byteshack: try a backport |
| 19:20.09 | byteshack | wasn't able to find any in www.backports.org, or what ever that site is |
| 19:20.17 | unfo | [TechGuy]: does it do that every time? |
| 19:20.18 | Supaplex | !simple sid backport |
| 19:20.18 | dpkg | methinks simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
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| 19:20.35 | unfo | [TechGuy]: did you check http://bugs.debian.org/aptitude? |
| 19:20.41 | unfo | [TechGuy]: sorry to ask. :) |
| 19:20.46 | [TechGuy] | unfo: Ya. Tried purging the aptitude package, then reinstall, and still occurs |
| 19:20.52 | abrotman | byteshack: you can check apt-get.org .. |
| 19:20.56 | byteshack | even sid doesn't have new enough |
| 19:21.04 | Supaplex | !uupdate |
| 19:21.04 | dpkg | uupdate upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision |
| 19:21.22 | unfo | [TechGuy]: did you check the bugs site tho? |
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| 19:22.03 | [TechGuy] | unfo: I glanced over it earlier and didn't really see anything. I'm going over it more slowly now |
| 19:23.13 | unfo | [TechGuy]: or, you could rebuild aptitude with nostrip and debugging, then try to run it inside gdb. |
| 19:23.22 | [TechGuy] | arggh |
| 19:23.30 | unfo | 'Twas billig and the german typoists were shimmying in the wabes |
| 19:23.36 | unfo | [TechGuy]: ? |
| 19:23.56 | [TechGuy] | not exactly a rebuild fan. :) |
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| 19:25.18 | Velte | I have a ps2 mouse that xorg can't find, how to fix :-S |
| 19:25.26 | unfo | [TechGuy]: it's easy, (apt-get source aptitude ; cd aptitude-$VER ; debian/rules) |
| 19:25.39 | unfo | Velte: fastest fix is: buy a usb mouse. :) |
| 19:25.42 | stew | Velte: make sure you have the psmouse and mousedev kernel modules loaded |
| 19:25.45 | unfo | they're like $5. |
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| 19:26.07 | stew | Velte: and add those two modules to /etc/modules |
| 19:26.33 | Velte | package-names are psmouse and mousedev? |
| 19:26.39 | Velte | Couldn't find those |
| 19:26.42 | sohmestra | Velte: module names |
| 19:26.53 | stew | Velte: no, module names; modprobe psmouse ; modprobe mousedev |
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| 19:27.08 | stew | Velte: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 19:27.31 | Velte | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 19:27.36 | stew | yikes |
| 19:27.41 | Velte | found mousedev, but not psmouse. |
| 19:27.56 | stew | Velte: what version of debian are you running? |
| 19:28.01 | Velte | unstable |
| 19:28.13 | _rain | hi all, how do i generate md5sums when creating a deb package |
| 19:28.31 | stew | _rain: dh_md5sums |
| 19:28.35 | hjubal | my app complains "libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot openshared object file: No such file or directory".. but I have it in "/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0" |
| 19:28.43 | hjubal | what's the problem? |
| 19:28.59 | stew | Velte: you should really upgrade to a 2.6 kernel, /msg dpkg sid upgrade kernel |
| 19:29.02 | geeKISSexy | hjubal: Is it in the library path ? |
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| 19:30.11 | Velte | stew: and the psmouse problem? |
| 19:30.14 | hjubal | geeKISSexy, yes |
| 19:30.15 | Velte | how to get module psmouse? |
| 19:30.25 | geeKISSexy | hjubal: Did you run ldconfig ? |
| 19:30.39 | hjubal | mmhh, no |
| 19:30.44 | Phlexonance | how can I make my extern hdd (fat32) read-only for windows systems |
| 19:30.47 | geeKISSexy | hjubal: Run it first. |
| 19:30.49 | stew | Velte: what /dev/ did you choose when configuring xorg? |
| 19:31.10 | hjubal | geeKISSexy, ok.. I've compiled wxWindows 2.6 on my own and checkinstalled it |
| 19:31.33 | stew | Velte: mousedev might have been all you needed. i don't remember what the 2.4 equiv. was called, maybe just "mouse" |
| 19:31.43 | Velte | what dev how? now it is imps/2 explorerps2 something |
| 19:31.54 | hjubal | I run 'ldconfig' without any argument? |
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| 19:32.09 | geeKISSexy | hjubal: I think, yes. |
| 19:32.09 | xface | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.09 | stew | Velte: did you choose /dev/psaux? /dev/input/mice? |
| 19:32.18 | xface | is there a way to say that i donr care what the from encoding is? |
| 19:32.23 | Velte | psaux wasn't an option |
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| 19:32.29 | Velte | but I know psaux worked on stable |
| 19:32.41 | hjubal | geeKISSexy, I'm going.. tnx |
| 19:32.44 | Velte | now it is /dev/input/mice now |
| 19:33.07 | stew | Velte: for /dev/input/mice you definately needed the mousedev module |
| 19:33.30 | Velte | dpkg sid upgrade kernel does nothing... |
| 19:33.39 | Velte | mousedev module exist |
| 19:33.42 | Velte | not psmouse |
| 19:33.54 | aronofsky | hi , i just installed k3b and i was wondering what is the best to write cd with normal user , can I set cdrecord suid or is it unsafe and is there better solutions ? |
| 19:34.13 | stew | !tell Velte about sid upgrade kernel |
| 19:34.15 | Velte | well, now modprobe mousedev says nothing |
| 19:34.22 | byteshack | is there a package to help me find my closest debian mirror? |
| 19:34.54 | stew | Velte: and psaux would have been a choice |
| 19:35.09 | Phlexonance | how can I make my extern hdd (fat32) read-only for windows systems? |
| 19:35.12 | hjubal | geeKISSexy, I've launched 'ldconfig', looged out/in.. It doesn't work.. any other idea? :( |
| 19:35.13 | unfo | byteshack: apt-setup is one. |
| 19:35.31 | stew | byteshack: apt-spy |
| 19:35.33 | Velte | stew: how to fix that? which package to get? and then I can run xorg-config again... |
| 19:35.34 | unfo | oops i mean apt-spy |
| 19:35.50 | unfo | Velte: do you have a USB mouse lying around? :) |
| 19:35.54 | stew | Velte: fix what exactly? |
| 19:36.07 | stew | Velte: have you tried it again since adding mousedev? |
| 19:36.23 | Velte | stew: yes, have a usbmouse |
| 19:36.44 | Velte | stew: fix module psmouse and mousedev, so psaux is an option in the configuration again |
| 19:37.19 | stew | Velte: i've told you that you should upgrade your kernel and given you instructions how to. psaux was an option last time, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 19:37.21 | valdyn | aronofsky: is cdrecord _without_ suid bit working for your user? |
| 19:37.22 | hjubal | I have only "/usr/X11R6/lib" in '/etc/ld.so.conf'.. is it ok? |
| 19:37.25 | xface | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.25 | xface | is there a way to say that i donr care what the from encoding is? |
| 19:37.42 | geeKISSexy | hjubal: You need to add /usr/local/lib there. |
| 19:37.50 | geeKISSexy | And then run `ldconfig -v` |
| 19:38.04 | aronofsky | valdyn, what do you mean ? |
| 19:38.06 | geeKISSexy | Check to see if "/usr/local/lib" is listed in the output. |
| 19:38.16 | valdyn | aronofsky: i mean what i said |
| 19:38.38 | valdyn | aronofsky: run cdrecord w/o SUID bit and see |
| 19:38.54 | aronofsky | valdyn, well no its not , cdrecord needs root privileges to be able to burn |
| 19:39.05 | Velte | stew: ok, thanks so far, will do it now :) |
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| 19:40.02 | Velte | stew: no install-candidate for that linux-package |
| 19:40.20 | jerome | is there any nice and clean debian way to have linux-headers and linux-source to play nicely together so that I can compile non-debiannized modules on my box ? (rt2570 asks for fixdep.c which is not in linux-headers) |
| 19:40.27 | valdyn | aronofsky: it does not need root ( depending on kernel though ) |
| 19:40.27 | stew | Velte: what is linux-package? |
| 19:40.39 | [TechGuy] | hrm... New question: Is it possible to rebuild the apt database? Aptitude seems to run now, but bombs upon reading the package db |
| 19:40.45 | Velte | stew: linux-image-2.6-386 |
| 19:40.53 | hjubal | geeKISSexy, GREAT! It works!! tnx a lot! |
| 19:41.10 | stew | Velte: what cpu do you have? |
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| 19:41.34 | aronofsky | valdyn, ok sorry , i misunderstood then , but i read it needs root pris to be be able to burn safely |
| 19:41.38 | Velte | AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1600+ |
| 19:41.40 | stew | dpkg: sid upgrade kernel =~ s/386/486/ |
| 19:41.40 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 19:41.53 | valdyn | aronofsky: that is bullshit like that, its alot more complicated |
| 19:41.53 | stew | Velte: you want linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 19:42.21 | Velte | stew: installing it now ;) |
| 19:42.36 | valdyn | aronofsky: it needs root to get RT task priority on standard kernels |
| 19:42.46 | _ericb | is there a software that shows the load each cpu have separatly ? top only show the load of every cpu combined,is there a way to see each cpu individually ? |
| 19:42.49 | hjubal | that's way 2 days ago I had problems compiling an SDL based game. I was sure to have SDL_Image installed but... |
| 19:43.06 | aronofsky | valdyn, im on 2.6.15-1-k7 kernel installed from apt |
| 19:43.29 | valdyn | aronofsky: just use it as a user, not more i can tell you |
| 19:43.34 | xface | what encoding si Non-ISO extended-ASCII text ? |
| 19:43.45 | tralala | _ericb: you might try xosview. I don't know if it shows it separately but it's good looking and worthed a try |
| 19:44.09 | stew | xface: extended-ASCII |
| 19:44.10 | _ericb | apt-getiing it.. |
| 19:44.33 | aronofsky | valdyn, ok then i see if it works ok right ;, |
| 19:44.36 | Phlexonance | is there a tool which is able to mark a partition read only? |
| 19:44.38 | _ericb | oh yes both cpu separatly, it have lots of features.. thanks for the application tralala |
| 19:44.43 | valdyn | aronofsky: right |
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| 19:44.57 | aronofsky | valdyn, and its the same for cdrdao ? |
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| 19:45.09 | tralala | _ericb: so it show them separately? that's good to know |
| 19:45.15 | stew | Phlexonance: you can set it to mount read-only in fstab |
| 19:45.22 | valdyn | aronofsky: guess so |
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| 19:45.49 | xface | stew, ? |
| 19:45.50 | xface | ls *.txt | while read f ; do iconv -f extended-ASCII -t utf8 "$f" -o temp/"$" |
| 19:45.52 | xface | like this? |
| 19:46.17 | aronofsky | valdyn, btw do you use k3b ? because i got a problem with it , im unable to open k3bsetup, actually it opens but window is empty |
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| 19:46.36 | valdyn | aronofsky: nope |
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| 19:47.31 | aronofsky | valdyn, ok thx |
| 19:47.32 | _ericb | it's really nice to see how linux is efficient at multithreading.. windows usually puts lots of load on cpu 1 and little on cpu 2.. linux really effectively spread the load.. nice |
| 19:47.46 | Phlexonance | stew, no, it's about an extern hdd and it should be read only even in windows |
| 19:47.53 | xface | Stew? |
| 19:47.54 | xface | ls *.txt | while read f ; do iconv -f extended-ASCII -t utf8 "$f" -o temp/"$" |
| 19:47.56 | xface | like this? |
| 19:48.00 | valdyn | Phlexonance: man hdparm |
| 19:48.05 | xface | it doesnt work |
| 19:48.16 | aronofsky | does anyone here got problem with k3b installed from apt , actually my k3bsetup windows is empty when it open , i dont know where it could come from ? |
| 19:48.29 | stew | xface: i doubt it. i believe its just saying that the file contains characters >127 that don't follow any standard. iconv probably has no idea what to do with "extended-ASCII" |
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| 19:48.47 | xface | yes but i somwhow have to specify |
| 19:48.55 | xface | from encoding itn iconv as an argument |
| 19:49.47 | xface | how can i specify it? |
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| 19:50.43 | xface | his is really killing me file encodings and line file encodings |
| 19:50.44 | Phlexonance | valdyn, "Get/set read-only flag for the device. When set, Linux disallows write operations on the device." doesnt sound like this would work on a windows system then (extern hdd) |
| 19:50.57 | xface | and i cant even specify the arguments |
| 19:51.51 | Velte | stew: mouse works now, somehow, but xdm dosn't take me to the next step... how to switch back to gdm... or something better? |
| 19:51.52 | xface | stew, any ideas dude? |
| 19:51.54 | RainbowW | http://pastebin.com/698133 how would i construct a wildcard email address (like, say, .*@mydomain.com) that would actually work in the whitelist? |
| 19:52.53 | stew | xface: i don't believe there is any meaningful conversion |
| 19:53.26 | stew | Velte: what do you mean by "next step"? |
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| 19:53.39 | stew | Velte: what version of x11-common do you have installed? |
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| 19:54.01 | Velte | stew: next step: past login and to a window manager, kde or gnome |
| 19:54.10 | streuner | apt, wb |
| 19:54.12 | apt | It's great to be back! |
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| 19:54.19 | stew | Velte: check ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 19:55.04 | Mr_Molez | my debian install of postfix has the file /etc/postfix/postfix-script missing.. how can i get this file ? |
| 19:55.06 | Velte | stew: x11-common 7.0.16 |
| 19:55.08 | stew | streuner: i was able to replicate you x11-common bug, vorlon said it will be fixed in the next upload, i documented a workaround in the Xorg69To7 page |
| 19:55.13 | cahoot | xface: all this is already known to you? http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/howtos/Cyrillic/Cyrillic-HOWTO-2.html |
| 19:55.33 | streuner | stew: ok, bugreport is submited |
| 19:55.42 | stew | !debwiki Velte Xorg69To7 |
| 19:55.42 | dpkg | Velte: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 19:55.44 | xface | man its greek stuff but |
| 19:55.51 | xface | damn bloddy cock sucking winxp |
| 19:55.55 | stew | Velte: you have the Xsession bug |
| 19:55.57 | xface | saved it liek non-ascii |
| 19:56.02 | xface | and with CR+LF |
| 19:56.13 | xface | just to make me sick now 3 housr try to convert it |
| 19:56.20 | blueI | I want to use frame buffer for my tty. which package I should dpkg-reconfigure? I thing I've seen the configuration screen while setting up debian, but now I can't remember which package it was |
| 19:56.23 | Velte | Managed to get into kde now, not quite sure how doh |
| 19:56.25 | stew | xface: there is no way to save greek characters in ascii |
| 19:56.27 | xface | and with NEL char as well |
| 19:56.30 | Velte | stew: Managed to get into kde now, not quite sure how doh |
| 19:56.38 | xface | i must make the text urf-8 |
| 19:56.43 | xface | uitf-8 |
| 19:56.51 | xface | otherwise page wont read it |
| 19:56.53 | stew | Velte: do you have a /etc/X11/Xsession file? |
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| 19:57.02 | stew | !tell xface about enter |
| 19:57.39 | Velte | stew: 4 different ones... with endings .d .options .xfree86 .config |
| 19:57.57 | streuner | Velte: ls -l /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 19:58.02 | stew | Velte: yeah, then you have the bog at the top of the Xorg69To7 page which is why xdm is failing |
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| 19:58.11 | stew | ^bog^Xsession bug |
| 19:58.14 | xface | sorry man but please give me a work around |
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| 19:58.36 | raf256 | where vim 7 could be in unstable/ |
| 19:58.49 | streuner | when? |
| 19:58.52 | [TechGuy] | Which public key is used for signing the testing security updates packages (e.g. fixes apt saying NO_PUBKEY 946AA6E18722E71E)? The dpkg bot's key isn't it |
| 19:58.57 | Velte | stew: that ls command returns nothing |
| 19:59.08 | stew | !debwiki Velte Xorg69To7 |
| 19:59.08 | dpkg | Velte: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 19:59.19 | EdLin | !info vim unstable |
| 19:59.30 | dpkg | vim: (Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 1:6.4-007+1 (sid), Packaged size: 572 kB, Installed size: 1128 kB |
| 19:59.41 | stew | raf256: its in experimental now, i think it is supposed to enter unstable relatively soon |
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| 19:59.51 | raf256 | cool |
| 19:59.54 | Velte | dkpg and stew: reading on the wiki now.. |
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| 20:01.08 | posix4e | Hello, I am trying to get the Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) working. I can get it to show up with madwifi or madwifi-ng but I can't seem to associate with anyone. Any Ideas. |
| 20:01.12 | blueI | How can I change default web browser on Sarge? |
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| 20:01.26 | stew | blueI: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
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| 20:02.46 | Velte | stew: what is best to use gdm, xdm, kdm, wdm? |
| 20:03.06 | stew | it really doesn't matter |
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| 20:03.26 | is_null | hello everybody, i am experiencing issues with xorg debian package configuration; usig sarge testing linux2.6.8 (freshlyi installed; using default heavy configuration): i use a 1400*900@70Hz lcd monitor. In dpkg-reconfire xserver-xorg : i use 60-70 for horizontal sync value and 120-125 vertical sync and i can't start xserver-xorg (gtf outputs: 65 for horiz and 123 for vert sync); any idea about the values i should use ? the issue i |
| 20:03.44 | Velte | stew: how do I change which is used? |
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| 20:04.32 | Velte | stew: found it ;) |
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| 20:05.21 | stew | is_null: sarge isn't testing and doesn't have xorg. you are running etch? |
| 20:05.32 | blueI | stew: Thanks. But I saw a screen at setup time that I could let Gnome manage my default web browser. How can I do that? How can I see that config screen? Maybe dpkg-reconfigure s.th? |
| 20:05.39 | stew | is_null: you got horizontal and vertical sync backwards |
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| 20:05.56 | stew | 1400*900@70Hz lcd monitor is 70hz vertical sync |
| 20:06.05 | xface | when on vi :w ++ecn=utf-8 |
| 20:06.08 | ojai | which package is "better" -- initramfs-tools or yaird? |
| 20:06.08 | xface | why wont it work? |
| 20:06.11 | stew | blueI: i don't konw about gnome |
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| 20:06.58 | stew | ojai: initramfs-tools if it works. but it doesn't work in 100% of the situations. it however requires udev which offends some, if you don't want udev then you must use yaird |
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| 20:08.50 | ojai | stew: so yaird and udev are incompatible? |
| 20:09.20 | blueI | Sorry stew, How can I know that some configuration can be done via dpkg-reconfigure ing some package? I've googled a lot but I couldn't find anything. Could you please help? |
| 20:09.21 | stew | ojai: not at all |
| 20:09.28 | stew | ojai: its just that yaird doesn't need it |
| 20:09.30 | is_null | stew : i have download sid installed it using linux26 option (couldn't get bash after netinstall otherwise); i hadn't worg after installing after changing my sources to testing |
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| 20:09.52 | is_null | *xorg in apt-cache |
| 20:10.22 | ojai | stew: gotcha. so it sounds like if you're using udev (and maybe even if you're not), yaird might be a better choice? |
| 20:10.32 | is_null | but i got it to work on this machine; changed my sources to testing |
| 20:10.37 | cureless | xorg is working like a charm in unstable now |
| 20:10.59 | stew | ojai: no, yaird seems to have worse upstream support and is likely to go away when initramfs becomes more solid |
| 20:11.04 | is_null | *to unstable i meant sorry; thank you; will try right now ;à |
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| 20:11.39 | stew | is_null: you downloaded sid? from where? it wouldn't have a linux26 option, a sid installer (if one actually existed) would use 2.6 by default |
| 20:12.38 | stew | blueI: i don't know a way |
| 20:12.50 | blueI | :-( |
| 20:13.03 | _ericb | hmm apt-get install azereus reports broken dependencies |
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| 20:13.20 | _ericb | in sarge |
| 20:13.31 | ojai | stew: so what types of probs does initramfs-tools have? just that it currently doesn't do as good of a job of dealing with modules as yaird? but yaird's not really being developed and will eventually go away? |
| 20:13.33 | stew | _ericb: did you install a 1.5 jre using java-package? |
| 20:13.50 | _ericb | not using java-package.. |
| 20:14.06 | _ericb | ok.. so this solves it.. |
| 20:14.08 | stew | _ericb: that's probably the problem then, why didn't you use java-package? |
| 20:14.10 | jair | guys what is the best way to use wget using the options -N or something like that so I can continue where I stop last time? |
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| 20:14.26 | _ericb | but then azureus dependency should be java-package |
| 20:14.33 | stew | _ericb: and you never said what the broken dependencies actually are, i just assumed it was java2-runtime |
| 20:15.05 | stew | _ericb: java-package doesn't supply a jre, it lets you build a jre.deb from a non-free jvm |
| 20:15.28 | stew | ojai: check the bts for initramfs-tools and yaird, you'll see the types of problems |
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| 20:16.20 | ojai | stew: good deal -- thanks very much |
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| 20:17.07 | stew | ojai: yaird also doesn't support upgrading from a 2.4 kernel aiui which makes it no good for sarge->etch |
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| 20:17.12 | myboxen | anyone recommend a screenshot tool? |
| 20:17.18 | stew | !screenshot |
| 20:17.18 | dpkg | i heard screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 20:17.35 | bob_ | myboxen: Use 'import' from imagemagick. |
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| 20:18.41 | myboxen | thank you very much |
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| 20:19.19 | ojai | stew: that's actually the deal breaker -- I will be updating from a 2.4 kernel so initramfs-tools it is! :) thanks again |
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| 20:21.06 | myboxen | stew and bob_, that works perfectly, thanks again |
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| 20:24.41 | aarkerio | HI! I have a problem: if the flash player play something XMMS not work, and viceversa |
| 20:25.11 | aarkerio | there is a way to integrate the flash player with alsa? |
| 20:26.10 | stew | !dmix |
| 20:26.10 | dpkg | dmix is, like, an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 20:26.29 | Velte | stew: Hmm... kdm, xdm and so on dosn't work, but login on, and typing startx brings me to a login that works... how to start startx automatic? |
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| 20:26.49 | aarkerio | apt-get install dmix ? |
| 20:27.26 | stew | Velte: did you fix the missing Xsession problem? do you now have an /etc/X11/Xsession? |
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| 20:27.46 | prophile | I am very confused |
| 20:28.20 | prophile | Why does "apt-get install jabber" add an extra line to my postfix configuration file then fail because the line it added has bad syntax? |
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| 20:28.55 | stew | prophile: there is no way that jabber should be editing another packages config file. are you sure that is what happened? |
| 20:29.02 | prophile | absolutely |
| 20:29.11 | prophile | it happened when I tried to install proftpd too |
| 20:29.18 | gnufa1 | prophile: what line did it add? |
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| 20:29.26 | stew | prophile: can you find the offending code in /var/lib/dpkg/info/jabber.postinst? |
| 20:29.30 | prophile | this: "inet_protocols =" |
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| 20:29.48 | prophile | stew: nope |
| 20:29.55 | stew | prophile: what version of jabber? |
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| 20:30.15 | prophile | note sure, but I don't think it's jabber in particular, since it happened with another package too |
| 20:30.26 | stew | prophile: i'm going to have a hard time believing that both proftpd and jabber have the same release critical bug |
| 20:30.36 | is_null | i just changed debian apt sources to unstable and upgraded my packages and i still scrash while trying to start xorg using gtf outputed values for my 1400*900@70Hz lcd screen |
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| 20:30.56 | prophile | stew: yes, that's why I think it's apt rather than either of them |
| 20:31.09 | prophile | stew: I'm going to install something small and random and see if it happens there too |
| 20:31.14 | stew | prophile: what version of apt? |
| 20:31.21 | stew | prophile: err dpkg (it wouldn't be apt) |
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| 20:31.30 | prophile | what's the easiest way to check? |
| 20:31.30 | aarkerio | somebody are having troubles with MC in gnome-terminal ? |
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| 20:31.48 | prophile | right |
| 20:31.53 | stew | !debwiki is_null Xorg69To7 |
| 20:31.53 | dpkg | is_null: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
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| 20:32.01 | prophile | I just used apt-get install irssi, it was already installed, and same thing |
| 20:32.12 | prophile | moment, I'll put the log on the net |
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| 20:32.35 | is_null | thank you, this is a perfect bot :D |
| 20:32.47 | AnyFile | Hello! I am trying to install the debian system. After the first stage when I rebboted I got an error saying that pciehp could not be load. What is pciehp? |
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| 20:33.09 | stew | prophile: what version of debian are you running |
| 20:33.17 | stew | AnyFile: /sbin/modinfo pciehp |
| 20:33.27 | factor | has anyone gottne the composite ext. to work on X with KDE? |
| 20:33.38 | factor | gotten even^ |
| 20:33.40 | AnyFile | Then when I was asked to select a mirror, no one I selected worked and I have see that the IP address was always (1.0.0.0) |
| 20:33.41 | prophile | stew: how can I check? |
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| 20:34.20 | stew | prophile: when you post the log, also post the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy libc6 dpkg" |
| 20:34.24 | AnyFile | I opened a shell and I tryed to telent on the 80th porth directly and I got no answear, but if I first ping the server and then telent the server answered |
| 20:34.30 | prophile | okay |
| 20:34.32 | Luftzig | can I use apt to compile my own packages? |
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| 20:35.03 | stew | Luftzig: do you mean recompile a debian package? or package something that wasn't already packaged? |
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| 20:35.23 | AnyFile | and after that also the installing program was able to retrive the file, but then the installation program wanted to retrive file from secure...... and it failed and then failed agin from the mirror |
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| 20:35.36 | gnufa1 | prophile: this is in the postinst script for the latest postfix... |
| 20:35.59 | prophile | I installed postfix about fourty minutes ago |
| 20:36.06 | prophile | so unless there's been a release since then, yes |
| 20:36.08 | Velte | stew: Fixing it now, got sidetracked... things work smoothly now.. thanks alot for your time :) |
| 20:36.15 | Luftzig | stew, mostly the first, although I can think of a apckage or two that I would like to package |
| 20:36.16 | prophile | http://rabidtinker.mine.nu/~alistair/hrm.txt |
| 20:36.18 | prophile | there we are |
| 20:36.35 | stew | Luftzig: for the first: /msg dpkg source ; for the second: /msg dpkg mg |
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| 20:36.42 | stew | Velte: you're welcome |
| 20:36.57 | Luftzig | thanks stew |
| 20:37.10 | gnufa1 | prophile: most likely the install didn't complete so it is rerunning the script and failing.... at a guess. |
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| 20:37.27 | prophile | yeah, but the line it adds is invalid |
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| 20:37.36 | prophile | if I fix it it removes the fixed version, puts the broken one back and then dies |
| 20:37.39 | intoxicator | g'day |
| 20:37.41 | prophile | surely that isn't supposed to happen |
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| 20:38.28 | stew | prophile: ugh, you are running unstable. welcome to unstable; check the bts. there is probably a bug in the postfix.postinst ; you need to find the fix in the bts or fix it yourself then run dpkg --configure -a |
| 20:38.49 | prophile | okay |
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| 20:39.21 | prophile | thanks for your help, stew/gnufal |
| 20:39.29 | stew | prophile: actually its trying to run newaliases? did you check /etc/aliases? |
| 20:39.34 | intoxicator | after upgrading nautilus from 2.10 to 2.14, it won't start anymore, giving this error: "nautilus: symbol lookup error: nautilus: undefined symbol: nautilus_location_widget_provider_get_type". i suppose some other package needs to be upgraded, which slipped the depencies of nautilus 2.14. anyone knows which package that could be? |
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| 20:39.43 | ssb | prophile, be prepared to bugs like http://bugs.debian.org/155873 :) |
| 20:40.41 | gnufa1 | prophile: the postinst script for postfix adds this if the debconf settings say it should. |
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| 20:41.03 | AnyFile | Now I have restarted the system rebooting via CTR_ALT_DEL. How can I resumed the installation process? A notice told me that was added to a list in /etc commented out package that should be downaload from secure....debian.org. How can I have secure... rescanned? |
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| 20:42.21 | chaedaeX | AnyFile: dpkg-reconfigure base-config perhaps |
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| 20:42.32 | thieummm | Hi, is there a way to tell apt-get that if I requested to remove an essential package, I don't want it to be removed, but I want the other files I requested it to remove to be removed ?? |
| 20:42.40 | chaedaeX | AnyFile: or i think just run "base-config" |
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| 20:42.46 | gnufa1 | doh memory fade -- where does debconf store the settings -- big text file.... |
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| 20:43.07 | pontus21 | where are config files from mysql ? |
| 20:43.15 | AnyFile | I'll try to reboot .. bye |
| 20:43.31 | stew | thieummm: no |
| 20:43.39 | stew | prophile: /etc/mysql |
| 20:43.53 | prophile | /etc/mysql? |
| 20:43.56 | thieummm | stew: are you 100% sure ? |
| 20:44.06 | stew | pontus21: /etc/mysql |
| 20:44.14 | prophile | oh, heh |
| 20:44.16 | stew | thieummm: tell me exactly what you did |
| 20:44.26 | chaedaeX | "I requested to remove an essential package, I don't want it to be removed" thieummm do you realize this doesn't make a bit of sense? |
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| 20:44.46 | cappu | thieum : take a look at the wajig package.. maybe it is what you are looking for |
| 20:44.56 | thieummm | Let me describe the context: |
| 20:44.58 | stew | thieummm: you typed "apt-get remove a b c d e" but lets say b was an essential package so it complained? |
| 20:45.06 | pontus21 | stew, and in this folder I can find a file to configure access rigths ? |
| 20:45.11 | thieummm | that's riiight |
| 20:45.25 | thieummm | a b c d e comes from a auto generated list... |
| 20:45.34 | stew | thieummm: who auto-generated it? |
| 20:45.35 | thieummm | s/a/an |
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| 20:46.29 | stew | pontus21: you control the access to the server via the user table in the mysql database, look up the grant statement |
| 20:47.18 | thieummm | apt-cache and awk |
| 20:47.27 | pontus21 | stew, and why I can't connect to my database when I specify the IP adress of the server ? |
| 20:47.29 | thieummm | stew: apt-cache and awk |
| 20:47.38 | pontus21 | stew, and on the server too |
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| 20:48.03 | pontus21 | stew, when I specify the IP address of the server I can't connect |
| 20:48.28 | pontus21 | stew, but when I specify "localhost", it's connecting : |
| 20:48.28 | chaedaeX | actually there's an option in my.cfg to tell it to listen only to loopback address... |
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| 20:48.47 | stew | 16:46 < stew> pontus21: you control the access to the server via the user table in the mysql database, look up the grant statement |
| 20:48.54 | is_null | hello everybody, after changing testing to unstable in apt sources, apt-get upgrades returns a list of 64 packages that are not upgraded (kept-back); is it possible to forceupgrade ? |
| 20:48.54 | chaedaeX | pontus21: my.cfg in /etc/mysql |
| 20:48.59 | is_null | *to "unstable contrib" |
| 20:49.18 | chaedaeX | pontus21: but also grant the access rights as stew said |
| 20:49.25 | is_null | excuse my disconnection, i use old ethernet cable |
| 20:49.45 | gnufa1 | prophile: what value do you have for postfix/protocols in /var/cache/debconf/config.dat ? |
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| 20:49.49 | stew | thieummm: i'm guessing you'll have to use grep-dctrl to filter out the essential packages |
| 20:49.59 | SlayerXP | is_null: if you're using unstable, you shouldn't need to ask that |
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| 20:50.36 | is_null | sorry, i won't ask you anymore :) |
| 20:50.40 | prophile | gnufal: I commented out a line in postfix.postconf so once this apt-get upgrade is finished I'll check whether it works now |
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| 20:51.03 | stew | is_null: /msg dpkg kept back |
| 20:51.35 | thieummm | stew: thx |
| 20:52.13 | Velte | which file contains table over connected devices again, need to mount an extra hd, rember how, just not the name of the file :-P |
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| 20:52.35 | stew | Velte: fstab? |
| 20:52.39 | devas | is there a easy way to increase "ulimit -n" number to 32768 for just one user? |
| 20:52.41 | Velte | thanks ;) |
| 20:53.22 | GoAuLd | yes |
| 20:53.33 | GoAuLd | for the user hacker right |
| 20:53.38 | gnufan | prophile: I still want to know if it put the right values in the config.dat file. |
| 20:53.48 | prophile | okay |
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| 20:55.06 | prophile | http://pastebin.com/698838 |
| 20:55.17 | is_null | thank you again stew :) |
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| 20:57.36 | gnufan | prophile: hmm - I have ipv4 there... I'm betting this is the root of the problem... LJ will know what happens |
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| 20:59.12 | prophile | gnufan: I've tried putting ipv4 and all there, they both work but get erased whenever I use apt-get install |
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| 21:00.10 | stew | prophile: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure postfix? |
| 21:00.20 | prophile | no, I haven't |
| 21:00.22 | prophile | moment |
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| 21:01.57 | prophile | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: postfix is broken or not fully installed |
| 21:02.05 | prophile | but it is installed, it works! :/ |
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| 21:02.55 | spart | How can i check what package contains the file (binary) lockfile ? apt-cache search turns up lockfile-progs but that's not what im looking for |
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| 21:03.48 | Tassium | spart: dpkg --search /path/to/whatever |
| 21:04.00 | stew | spart: /msg dpkg apt-file ; if the file is already installed use dpkg -S or dlocate |
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| 21:04.09 | Tassium | spart: There's also a web interface at packages.debian.org |
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| 21:06.25 | spart | thanks Tassium and Stew |
| 21:06.28 | Tassium | prophile: Try something like dpkg --configure --pending (Did your install of Postfix bomb out and dpkg's database thinks it isn't finished?) |
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| 21:06.59 | prophile | Tassium: that just runs that specific operation its own |
| 21:07.01 | prophile | (and fails) |
| 21:07.12 | aarkerio | somebody is having troubles with MC in gnome-terminal ? |
| 21:07.15 | prophile | how can I just tell it that it is infact installed and it doesn't need to do anything to it? |
| 21:07.23 | stew | aarkerio: /msg dpkg bts |
| 21:07.23 | aarkerio | font redraw problem |
| 21:07.25 | Angels2 | Are there any know issues with nforce2 + sata hdds and debian sarge@2.6? Somehow the hdds are just slow (transfering with 4mbit/sec over samba on a gbit lan right now) |
| 21:07.31 | aarkerio | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.37 | stew | prophile: by fixing the postinst |
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| 21:07.56 | prophile | stew: how can I do block comments in the postinst? |
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| 21:08.06 | stew | prophile: you can't |
| 21:08.09 | prophile | damn |
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| 21:08.20 | prophile | mass-# then :/ |
| 21:08.25 | stew | prophile: have you checked the bts? |
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| 21:08.54 | Tassium | prophile: Are you opposed to removing the package and trying to reinstall it? |
| 21:08.56 | prophile | stew: all the inet things are commented out in the postinst now |
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| 21:09.36 | prophile | Tassium: I could try, I don't see why I need to remove the damn thing then reconfigure it just because dpkg went up the swanee though :/ |
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| 21:09.58 | Rogers | does anyone know how to correct bug with black screen after logout from X with xorg 6.9 and latest (for 6.8) fglrx drivers? |
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| 21:10.23 | prophile | finally |
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| 21:10.32 | prophile | right, hacking around and deleting stuff from the postinst fixed it |
| 21:10.37 | prophile | thanks for your help, everyone! |
| 21:10.50 | fredl | anybody know who's the server operator for freenet? |
| 21:11.51 | Surgo | Having a problem starting XEmacs in X (both from the standard Debian archive and built from source), getting (error "Must be a string, vector, or font-instance" #<x-device on ":0.0" 0x36b>), anyone have any idea what's going on? I don't get it when I run xemacs -nw, I can paste the entire backtrace in a private message if needed. |
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| 21:12.26 | Luftzig | is 2.6.8 is the newest kernel? |
| 21:12.41 | Surgo | No, latest stable is 2.6.13 |
| 21:12.47 | JasonBoxatWork | Does anyone have any thoughts on pitfalls from upgrading libc6 on a Woody box to a backported Sarge libc6 2.3.2 compiled with gcc3.3, also backported from Sarge? |
| 21:12.48 | Surgo | er |
| 21:12.53 | Surgo | 2.6.16.13 |
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| 21:13.09 | streuner | Luftzig: running sarge and want a newer kernel? /msg dpkg backports |
| 21:13.23 | karma | Hi, I get no sound in Quake3 (or other id software engine games) unless I type "echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" as root, which is sort of a hacky workaround to get sound working in these OSS applications. |
| 21:13.27 | karma | (I'm using ALSA) |
| 21:13.31 | stew | JasonBoxatWork: the obvious question would be, why not just upgrade to sarge? |
| 21:13.52 | Luftzig | streuner, running etch and wanting to compile a newer kernel |
| 21:14.17 | streuner | Luftzig: finger @kernel.org |
| 21:14.19 | Surgo | Luftzig: You can get all that information at www.kernel.org :) |
| 21:14.26 | streuner | or that :-) |
| 21:14.30 | JasonBoxatWork | stew: It's an divergent Woody, so a dist-upgrade isn't feasible |
| 21:14.39 | streuner | dpkg, kernel |
| 21:14.41 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.16.13, prepatch: 2.6.17-rc3, snapshot: 2.6.17-rc3-git10, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre3, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.17-rc3-mm1 |
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| 21:15.00 | karma | Why doesn't OSS emulation work for Quake3? lsmod tells me that "snd_pcm_oss 45536 0" |
| 21:15.08 | Luftzig | but why there are no source packages for the newer kernels? |
| 21:15.11 | stew | JasonBoxatWork: my advice is: make backups |
| 21:15.15 | devas | is there a easy way to increase "ulimit -n" number to 32768 for just one user? |
| 21:15.18 | JasonBoxatWork | stew: *grin* |
| 21:15.23 | streuner | karma: well, what does the docs say about? |
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| 21:15.33 | zleap | ah life |
| 21:15.59 | fredl | anybody know who's the ircop on freenet? |
| 21:16.04 | karma | streuner: I checked online for a long time and many others have this problem with motherboard built-in sound cards |
| 21:16.07 | JasonBoxatWork | stew: Aside from that, are there any side effects that might be obvious, just not to me? |
| 21:16.09 | Ronin | fredl: which one and why? |
| 21:16.14 | streuner | fredl: why? |
| 21:16.30 | karma | But the only way anything people said which works is typing "echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" as root |
| 21:16.34 | streuner | karma: so buying a emu10k1 or similar? |
| 21:16.38 | zleap | i am using an ac97 driver for my built in sound |
| 21:16.47 | zleap | and using alsa, |
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| 21:16.59 | fredl | Ronin - are you an ircop? I don't mean the channel op. |
| 21:17.03 | karma | And I'd rather not do that everytime I want to play Q3 or other id games (RTCW, ET, Quake, etc) |
| 21:17.18 | karma | Yeah I'm using ALSA too, but the id games use OSS to the best of my knowledge |
| 21:17.24 | stew | karma: you can do that with sysctl, man sysctl.conf |
| 21:17.25 | zleap | ah |
| 21:17.26 | Ronin | fredl: i know you meant oper, theyre easy to find but like streuner im curious as to whty |
| 21:17.31 | karma | But why isn't OSS emulation working? |
| 21:17.40 | zleap | yeah there were issues with doom3 and sound |
| 21:17.44 | fredl | Ronin - I don't like to discuss that in public |
| 21:17.45 | karma | stew: I can do what with sysctl? |
| 21:17.48 | eleftherios | has anyone in here tried running debian on the mac mini with intel dual core processors? |
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| 21:18.00 | Ronin | fredl: whatever |
| 21:18.03 | fredl | it's not anything to do with #debian. |
| 21:18.07 | stew | karma: you can make the echo happen at boot automatically or anytime you run sysctl -p |
| 21:18.10 | Tassium | fredl: Then connect to the network you're interested in and do /stats p |
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| 21:18.36 | fredl | thanks Tassium |
| 21:18.41 | karma | stew: Yes but the point is that this is a cheap hack in the first place and I'd rather have a better option so i don't have to do this for *every* game I run across using OSS |
| 21:19.04 | zleap | what about a script say called playquake that runs the sound fix then quake3 |
| 21:19.10 | karma | But the problem is echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss doesn't make much sense to me. Could someone who udnerstands it read it and tell me why that works? |
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| 21:19.54 | stew | karma: you woldn't have to do it for every game you n across using OSS |
| 21:19.55 | karma | zleap: Okay, but Quake3Arena isn't the only game I'm having this trouble with. I have other id games I'd like to play... |
| 21:20.05 | zleap | hmm, |
| 21:20.11 | karma | stew: Well what makes the id games special then? |
| 21:20.25 | stew | karma: i don't know |
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| 21:20.38 | karma | stew: Like you mentioned, this *did* work fine with an emu10k1 card, but that's not what this computer has |
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| 21:21.04 | zleap | what about script called play <argument> which firstly runs the fix, then runs what ever game you want after |
| 21:21.09 | stew | karma: i didn't mention anything about emu10k1, i just told you how to make this setting permanant |
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| 21:21.18 | zleap | one script can load a number of games depending on the arugment |
| 21:21.27 | karma | Oh whoops, that was streuner |
| 21:21.27 | Celeste | can I open a *.wmv video on Linux? |
| 21:21.33 | spfdz | how come when you do apt-get mozilla-firefox it gives you the older version (1.0) not the newer (1.5?) |
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| 21:21.53 | streuner | karma: those are cheap |
| 21:21.57 | stew | Celeste: install mplayer and w32codecs from marillat, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 21:22.20 | Celeste | thank you stew |
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| 21:23.13 | karma | echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss Honestly anyone who understand this can maybe tell me why this gets my Q3A sound working and nothing else does? |
| 21:23.41 | karma | I know it's something to do with the fact that Q3 uses OSS but my sound card's drivers are ALSA |
| 21:24.02 | karma | I just don't know why OSS emulation doesn't work for id games but it does for others |
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| 21:24.53 | stew | karma: i'd guess that its actually the id games code that is broken, not the oss emulation |
| 21:24.56 | SonnyBurnett | Hello I'm installing nvidia-glx-legacy, I have a doubt, in my xorg.conf should I Load the "glx" module? or now there is another name for the module?, because I followed the wiki manual but I dont get the "direct rendering: Yes" message |
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| 21:26.11 | zleap | i ususally run the nvidia install script, perhaps the nvidia-glx-legacy is different |
| 21:26.46 | SonnyBurnett | zleap, I have to use it, because I use Etch.... Do you know how to do it? |
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| 21:27.57 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: yes, the glx module should be enabled |
| 21:28.04 | zleap | ok on sid I type the followng to install nvidia drivers |
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| 21:28.16 | zleap | update-scripts-kanotix.sh |
| 21:28.23 | chealer | eeewww |
| 21:28.26 | zleap | install-nvidia-debian-sh |
| 21:28.31 | chealer | eeewwwww |
| 21:28.35 | zleap | it does it all for me |
| 21:28.43 | spfdz | can someone give me a tutorial link on how to update my linux kernel? I have 2.4 right now |
| 21:28.47 | zleap | whats wrong with that |
| 21:28.56 | falco_toadfoot | how do I install modutils? debian unstable.. |
| 21:28.58 | devas | is there a easy way to increase "ulimit -n" number to 32768 for just one user? |
| 21:29.18 | zleap | apt-get install modutils perhaps |
| 21:29.18 | falco_toadfoot | it just gives me "depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented" |
| 21:29.32 | falco_toadfoot | 2.6.15 |
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| 21:29.53 | chealer | zleap: first, you have to get those scripts |
| 21:29.54 | gregory | hello, i have a problem with php4-pgsql and php5-pgsql (i think) when i try to connect to pgsql from a php page i get [Thu May 04 18:48:27 2006] [notice] child pid 14248 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) in apache2 error.log.. and nothing happens.. any ideea why is this happening ? |
| 21:30.03 | zleap | not sure then, |
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| 21:30.34 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, when I run $glxinfo | grep rendering I get: Xlib: 1) extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". 2) Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual |
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| 21:30.56 | falco_toadfoot | zleap: I even tried installing the stable version of modutils, but that gives me the same error |
| 21:31.19 | zleap | chealer is this useful http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 21:31.22 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: does you X log mention failures to load that module, or other suspicious failures |
| 21:31.34 | alex] | how can I find out what package name is X ? (to use apt-get) |
| 21:31.38 | chealer | zleap: that's considered only useful for woody |
| 21:31.44 | alex] | X = x window system |
| 21:31.48 | devas | no body helps me =/ |
| 21:31.49 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, nop.. It load normally |
| 21:31.49 | zleap | ok |
| 21:32.12 | Tassium | alex]: I used 'xorg' and 'kde' to install using apt-get |
| 21:32.13 | zleap | apt-cache search |
| 21:32.34 | zleap | if you enter apt-cache search firewall for example you get a list of all firewall packages |
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| 21:33.01 | alex] | thanks ppl |
| 21:33.03 | karma | What config file could I edit to tell X to use 1024x768 with 85Hz instead of just 60Hz? (Yes, I know my monitor supports it) |
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| 21:33.18 | stew | !drxx karma |
| 21:33.18 | dpkg | karma: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 21:33.43 | zleap | doesnt debian have a graphical utility to change x configs |
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| 21:34.00 | dondelelcaro | zleap: no. |
| 21:34.17 | Tassium | zleap: Only so far as some of the debconf frontends can be called 'graphical'... |
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| 21:34.46 | karma | I mean, I can't just edit the xorg.conf file and add 85Hz to it? |
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| 21:34.56 | Tassium | karma: Sure you can. |
| 21:35.00 | darkskiez | is there a good debian guide on how to make control/postinst scripts thats slightly more advanced than the basics? |
| 21:35.04 | karma | It seems like a saner option instead of running that whole thing again |
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| 21:35.14 | streuner | karma: as long as the driver support it |
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| 21:35.18 | zleap | ah cos kanotix has a control-center |
| 21:35.21 | zleap | which does that |
| 21:35.42 | darkskiez | mainly debhelper etc |
| 21:35.42 | streuner | karma: but 85Hz should be ok |
| 21:35.45 | karma | streuner: Does the proprietary "nvidia" driver support it? |
| 21:35.52 | stew | karma: no its saner to rerun the configuration and just hit enter an the items you don't wish to change |
| 21:35.55 | karma | Oh, yeah, you mean tha refresh rate |
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| 21:36.19 | Tassium | karma: I use an nvidia card, and I edited my xorg.conf file manually. What specifically are you wanting to set? |
| 21:36.45 | karma | Well it uses 1024x768 by default, which I want, but it's at 60Hz instead of 85Hz |
| 21:36.57 | karma | I'd like to have it at 85Hz (24 bit depth color) |
| 21:36.59 | zleap | ia m off, chat later |
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| 21:37.36 | berikd | Hello, where can I find info about upgrading from KDE 3.3.2 to 3.5.2 ? I'm using debian sarge |
| 21:37.44 | falco_toadfoot | "depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented"-problem solved by # apt-get --reinstall install module-init-tools |
| 21:38.05 | karma | Tassium: In the Subsection "Display" which has the Depth "24" (which I presume it hits first because I told it to) I have this line: Modes "1024x768_85" "800x600_85" "640x480_85" |
| 21:38.13 | Surgo | Having a problem starting XEmacs in X (both from the standard Debian archive and built from source), getting (error "Must be a string, vector, or font-instance" #<x-device on ":0.0" 0x36b>), anyone have any idea what's going on? I don't get it when I run xemacs -nw, I can paste the entire backtrace in a private message if needed. |
| 21:38.27 | Pmarc | how can I sart a cd from the grub menu? |
| 21:38.32 | karma | Tassium: Because someone told me that adding "_85" to the end of the resolution would make it use 85Hz. That didn't work. |
| 21:38.32 | Surgo | No idea what's going on; googling parts of the stack trace turned up nothing. |
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| 21:38.40 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: please provide your X config, X log, and output of glxinfo |
| 21:38.42 | Tassium | karma: Yeah, I'm just checking the manpage right now.. One sec. |
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| 21:38.56 | chealer | berikd: ask #debian-kde |
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| 21:39.14 | hydride | I just installed libapache2php4 and phpsysinfo from apt-get, but php doesn't work at all, as for http://uberfonics.homelinux.net/phpsysinfo |
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| 21:39.17 | hydride | any ideas? |
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| 21:40.02 | kimo | Hi, I setup samba PDC for WinXP. Anyone knows the equivalent of /etc/skel when creating new windows profiles ?? |
| 21:40.03 | chealer | hydride: it does seem to work :) refresh the page |
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| 21:40.30 | Tassium | karma: I think the situation is that currently you're using the built-in VESA standard modes. You can probably do what you want to do by declaring a complete new modeline. Maybe you can use 'xvidtune' to give you your current modeline, and then tweak it accordingly for inclusion into your xorg.conf? |
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| 21:40.47 | hydride | fucking cache :/ |
| 21:40.48 | hydride | thanks |
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| 21:42.51 | falco_toadfoot | kimo: c:\documents and settings\default user\ iirc.. but you should use environment variables instead, like %var_name% |
| 21:43.14 | karma | Tassium: Hmm, so I should use xvidtune to just see what it's set to now? |
| 21:43.31 | Tassium | karma: I believe so. I admit, this is a little outside my area of expertise but it's worth a try. |
| 21:43.39 | karma | Tassium: I mean is there a way to change xorg.conf to tell it *not* to use VESA modes? |
| 21:43.49 | kimo | falco_toadfoot: but it is creating domain account. Shouldn't the template come from the samba domain controller?! |
| 21:43.51 | Tassium | karma: That's what the modeline is for |
| 21:44.34 | karma | Modes "1024x768_85" "800x600_85" "640x480_85" |
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| 21:44.37 | stew | speicifying a modeline doesn't indicate there there are modes it shouldn't use |
| 21:44.40 | karma | Is that the modeline? |
| 21:45.09 | Tassium | stew: Specifying a modeline defines a specific mode |
| 21:45.15 | stew | yes |
| 21:45.24 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, do you want me to send you the files or to paste them in the pastebin? |
| 21:45.37 | karma | Also, under my "Section "Monitor"" there is the line "VertRefresh 43-72" |
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| 21:45.50 | karma | Is that hindering things? I mean shouldn't the max be 85? |
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| 21:46.20 | Tassium | karma: That depends upon your monitor.. Is yours capable of doing 85Hz? |
| 21:46.37 | karma | Tassium: Yes, at least at my desired resolution (1024x768) |
| 21:46.42 | Tassium | (Be REALLY sure about this, you can damage your hardware) |
| 21:46.46 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: put them somewhere public. pastebin is OK if you can't host them |
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| 21:46.58 | ifvoid | Tassium: that's a hoax |
| 21:47.00 | karma | I'm sure... I had it at 85Hz in Windows |
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| 21:47.04 | nethenson | hello |
| 21:47.04 | jsizzle | greets, I have a problem which is that I tried out an epplet once and I don't want it but it starts everytime I start E can anyone point me to where the list of epplets to start are kept? thx in adv |
| 21:47.21 | ifvoid | Tassium: modern (>1990 or so) monitors will just shut down if the frequentie is wrong |
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| 21:48.13 | Tassium | ifvoid: Okay then. |
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| 21:48.35 | jsizzle | anyone using epplets in enlightenment? know how to get rid of just one from startup let me know plz, thx in adv |
| 21:48.41 | mirak | is there a way to prevent hard drive acces to make lag the other applications ? |
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| 21:49.20 | jsizzle | mirak: sure run updatedb at the same time or something similar that does a lot of I/O |
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| 21:49.41 | mirak | jsizzle: it's not the time for updatedb |
| 21:49.46 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, there are: http://pastebin.com/698941 (xorg.conf), http://pastebin.com/698964 (X log) and http://pastebin.com/698961 (The ouput of glxinfo) |
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| 21:49.50 | mirak | jsizzle: I think it runs at one o clock |
| 21:49.52 | _ThePiratemaster | how do i let pure-ftpd use a configurationfile under inetd? |
| 21:49.53 | mirak | AM |
| 21:50.18 | jsizzle | mirak: doesn't matter, root types "updatedb &" without quotes and the job is manually run in the background, it also won't effect it runnin at the scheduled time |
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| 21:50.36 | mirak | jsizzle: that's not the problem right now |
| 21:50.57 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: you should disable dri in your X config |
| 21:51.02 | jsizzle | mirak: all I saw was you wanted to delay access to a hard drive |
| 21:51.23 | mirak | jsizzle: I want hard drive to not hog ressources |
| 21:51.30 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, ok what else? |
| 21:51.33 | mirak | jsizzle: I want apps to share better the hard drive acces |
| 21:52.02 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: the *full* glxinfo may help |
| 21:52.13 | Tassium | mirak: You may be able to tweak hard drive settings with hdparm |
| 21:52.34 | Tassium | mirak: Are you sure your hard drive is the actual bottleneck, and you're not low on ram (and therefore doing a lot of swap use?) |
| 21:52.46 | mirak | Tassium: 1,5G of ram |
| 21:52.59 | chaedaeX | i just found an ugly bug in sarge r2 |
| 21:53.08 | jsizzle | what's your peak swapfile usage |
| 21:53.10 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)" that's what I was refering to with "failures to load that module" |
| 21:53.10 | mirak | Tassium: hd is seagate 250G ide with 8 megs of cache |
| 21:53.13 | jsizzle | and swapfile size |
| 21:53.23 | mirak | swapfile is 512mo |
| 21:53.36 | jsizzle | peak usage? |
| 21:53.50 | mirak | 17meg |
| 21:53.56 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, The is the complete glxinof: http://pastebin.com/698977 |
| 21:54.38 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: OK, but this doesn't matter now that you see that X fails to load glx |
| 21:55.24 | hjubal | is it possible to compile kernel 2.6.16.13 loading the '.config' created with 'kernel-source-2.6.8'? |
| 21:55.46 | hjubal | 2.6.16.13 vanilla |
| 21:55.47 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, why is it failing? Can you give the the instructions to install the nvidia-glx-legacy, in etch? |
| 21:56.01 | chaedaeX | the bug-filing system is too slow. |
| 21:56.17 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: please paste the output of $ dpkg -l nvidia*|grep ii; |
| 21:56.23 | chaedaeX | i want to cross-reference a new report with one just filed but have to wait 20 min for confirmation first |
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| 21:56.52 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: the guide should tell you how to install the legacy drivers, in Etch or any release |
| 21:56.57 | jsizzle | mirak: do "hdparm -c -d /dev/hdX" make sure both are on |
| 21:57.00 | Tassium | mirak: Use hdparm to find out if dma is being used |
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| 21:57.32 | mirak | both are on |
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| 21:57.46 | mirak | probably ide just sucks |
| 21:57.55 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, there is: http://pastebin.com/698988 |
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| 21:58.23 | Tassium | mirak: Do some timing tests. hdparm -t /dev/hdx and hdparm -T /dev/hdx |
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| 21:58.44 | jsizzle | mirak: do hdparm -i /dev/hdX see what transfer speed it's using, sometimes you have to manually set the speed, I forget how but I had to do it on a laptop I loaded once, it was only going 33mb/s when it could do 66mb/s |
| 21:58.51 | is_null_ | hello everybody, xorg can't recognize my mouse; tryed with laptop touchpad and usb mouse, anyway xorg can't recognize it; any idea ? (i can start x using X -allowMouseOpenFail) |
| 21:59.00 | _ThePiratemaster | where does pureftpd log itd actions? |
| 21:59.46 | DarkCow | I'm having some trouble trying to get exim to work properly. I just want it to deliver mail local to the actual machine, but the messages seem to get stuck in the queue. Should I be setting up a maildir or something in order to get exim to deliver? |
| 21:59.57 | gregory | dose anybody have any ideea why do i get segfaul with php4-pgsql ? |
| 22:00.05 | jsizzle | is_null_: I say use gpm from console to figure out what device you should use for your mouse, but then once you do you can uninstall it, cuz in my opinion it causes more probs then it solves |
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| 22:00.46 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: humm. the nvidia kernel module is loaded, right? |
| 22:00.51 | jsizzle | is_null_: once installed dpkg-reconfigure gpm will bring up dialog to pick all options for mice and one is bound to work plug that into your xorg config, or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and your in the house like muthafuckin furniture |
| 22:01.09 | _ThePiratemaster | does anybody know what a "directive" is? " Invalid configuration file /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/pure-ftpd.conf: No corresponding directive |
| 22:01.09 | _ThePiratemaster | " |
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| 22:02.35 | _ThePiratemaster | ? |
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| 22:03.15 | Tassium | _ThePiratemaster: well, from context I'd say a directive would be an entry in the config file.. The error message you pasted was less than helpful though, wasn't it. Psate the contents of pure-ftpd.conf to pastebin and lets take a peek |
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| 22:03.46 | _ThePiratemaster | its just one line |
| 22:03.46 | _ThePiratemaster | h/o |
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| 22:03.53 | klaxian | hi everyone |
| 22:04.10 | klaxian | i am trying to use flash in firefox and none of the text shows up...i have gsfonts installed...any ideas? |
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| 22:04.31 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, I see "nvidia" loaded when I run: $lsmod 1 grep nvidia, this is the ouput: "nvidia 3923260 0" "agpgart 32076 2 nvidia,intel_agp" |
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| 22:04.59 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: OK, that's fine. but I don't see the reason for the "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)" |
| 22:05.24 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: the packages tend to be buggy, and I admit I didn't try the legacy drivers since a long time |
| 22:05.35 | _ThePiratemaster | -A -c 10 -C 5 -E -H -i -K 90 -u 1000 |
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| 22:05.38 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: you can always try Googling that |
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| 22:05.52 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, I've tried |
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| 22:06.13 | _ThePiratemaster | god damnit i cant even paste 1 line in here |
| 22:06.22 | dondelelcaro | _ThePiratemaster: you pasted 5 lines here. |
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| 22:06.40 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: alternatively, you may wan to try using "old current" drivers obtained from snapshots.debian.net, rather than the legacy drivers |
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| 22:06.54 | _ThePiratemaster | i didnt even paste one its just unable to paste |
| 22:07.00 | _ThePiratemaster | what was the line i pasted? |
| 22:07.01 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, in etch? |
| 22:07.03 | johnsu01 | Trust me, you pasted 5. |
| 22:07.03 | Tassium | _ThePiratemaster: I think the -K should be -k |
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| 22:07.15 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: yes. they're not in Etch though |
| 22:07.19 | _ThePiratemaster | hold on lemme do a man |
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| 22:08.49 | _ThePiratemaster | still not working |
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| 22:09.21 | is_null | sorry for flood; gpm was not installed; i tryed all mouse options (thought i can only access two) mouse option switch using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is not working. mdetect only returns the shell |
| 22:09.31 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, this site is down |
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| 22:10.38 | Solet_mod | does anyone know of a way to put a chatzilla button up on the personal bookmark toolbar? |
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| 22:10.56 | stew | is_null: make sure the psomouse and mousedev modules are loaded and use /dev/input/mice |
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| 22:11.42 | is_null | stew : thank you :) |
| 22:12.13 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: sorry, I meant snapshot.debian.net |
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| 22:13.14 | _ThePiratemaster | anyone got any idea where pure-ftpd stores its loggs? |
| 22:13.21 | _ThePiratemaster | or where it puts its loggs? |
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| 22:14.28 | Tassium | _ThePiratemaster: I believe it uses syslog, so wherever syslog puts it |
| 22:14.46 | _ThePiratemaster | tnx |
| 22:14.47 | Tassium | (Which is probably anywhere under /var/log) |
| 22:14.48 | pyroplasm | _ThePiratemaster: I have no clue but if lsof does not show logs it might use syslog |
| 22:14.59 | _ThePiratemaster | what r u the syslog files called (sorry i come from another system) |
| 22:15.31 | Tassium | /etc/syslog.conf |
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| 22:15.41 | _ThePiratemaster | tnx |
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| 22:16.07 | is_null | stew: thank you, your remark solved my problem, xorg is working prefectly nox; noting mousedev module must be running; thank you for your effort and have a good night :) |
| 22:16.35 | _ThePiratemaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.49 | Quozl | Moving an etch system to new hardware, partitioned, restored the backup (rsync over ssh), ran install-mbr and lilo, but the kernel's initrd is PATA specific, the new hardware is SATA based ... how to redo the initrd? |
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| 22:17.12 | Solet_mod | does anyone have handy the site that shows how well wine works with specific programs? |
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| 22:17.25 | stew | Quozl: are you using a debian kernel? |
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| 22:17.31 | carl | I think frankscorner.org is what you're looking for solet |
| 22:17.32 | is_null_ | stew: thank you, i could start server x using mousedev module, however, none of my mouses are working (sorry for flood i have issues with my network card which is old and sorry if i flood, i have no way to be aware is my precedent message was posted actually) |
| 22:17.35 | Tassium | Solet_mod: appdb.winehq.com? |
| 22:17.58 | Quozl | stew: ah, that's it then. i'm using kernel.org sources built using debian kernel-package. so in a way, yes and no. |
| 22:17.59 | stew | is_null_: put mousedev into /etc/modules so it gets automatically loaded at boot |
| 22:18.03 | MikeSeth | would anyone know how come apache 1.3 mod_proxy.so is not in unstable? |
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| 22:18.18 | stew | Quozl: then just reinstall the kernel package and it will create a fresh initrd |
| 22:18.24 | MikeSeth | or is it proxy_module? |
| 22:18.25 | Quozl | stew: thanks! |
| 22:18.34 | Ts0p | stew how are you man ? |
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| 22:18.49 | _ThePiratemaster | it only shows i connected, no errors though |
| 22:18.58 | stew | Ts0p: fine thanks |
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| 22:19.44 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 22:19.48 | is_null_ | stew : thank you, mousedev will be loaded at reboot (;)): however, i can't get touchpad or usb mouse to work with enlightenment@xorg |
| 22:19.51 | stew | MikeSeth: there is a libproxy.so in apache-common |
| 22:20.05 | stew | is_null_: /msg dpkg synaptics |
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| 22:20.07 | mirak | jsizzle Tassium it's just that mplayer video blocked when azureus seems to writes data to disk |
| 22:20.07 | MikeSeth | stew, yeah, Googled it up already |
| 22:20.09 | ribnitz | what do you people recommend to create a (set of) video cds from a DVD? |
| 22:20.21 | stew | is_null_: and /msg dpkg usbmouse |
| 22:20.31 | _ThePiratemaster | a tutu |
| 22:21.01 | _ThePiratemaster | ad a funney hat with melon ears on it |
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| 22:21.05 | _ThePiratemaster | worked for me |
| 22:21.40 | JasonF | I read something online today that said Woody would be updated until Etch is released, but dpkg says only until July 2k6 |
| 22:21.43 | Ts0p | i need some help. my setup now is DSL modem connected to a linksys wireless router and then my win box and linux lapy are connected wirelesslly |
| 22:21.45 | is_null_ | thank you stew, i could spare youre time if iknow 'summary' of dpkg answers :) |
| 22:21.45 | dpkg | is_null_: no problem |
| 22:21.49 | JasonF | is there a definative word on this anywhere? |
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| 22:22.41 | crissi | hi |
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| 22:23.25 | crissi | i have done a upgrade and after that i cant login via kdm on debian unstable. login via startx works. whats the problem? |
| 22:23.32 | es0 | does anyone run vmware in Debian? |
| 22:23.44 | stew | is_null_: sure: http://dpkg.vireo.org/q/mouse :) |
| 22:24.07 | stew | !debwiki crissi Xorg69To7 |
| 22:24.07 | dpkg | crissi: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 22:24.08 | ribnitz | JasonF: there are very few reasons to not switch to sarge. |
| 22:24.09 | Ts0p | since i just bought a new desktop, what i am trying to do is setup my old box as debian, and have my DSL modem connect direct to it, then connect to my wireless router from the debian box |
| 22:24.16 | crissi | dpkg: thx |
| 22:24.17 | dpkg | THX is an audio technology company founded by George Lucas, named after THX1138, Lucas' first movie. See http://www.thx.com. If you mean "thanks", please just say so. |
| 22:24.19 | chealer | JasonF: woody will be (truely) obsolete starting from 2006-06-06 |
| 22:24.27 | is_null_ | stew, nice, thank you, you are of the most asskicking since ass kicking exists :p :) |
| 22:24.27 | Ts0p | can i do that ? |
| 22:24.27 | JasonF | ribnitz: We have a very good reason not to upgrade. |
| 22:24.39 | Tassium | Ts0p: Yes. You will need two network interface cards in the linux box. |
| 22:24.54 | JasonF | ribnitz: Basically a really fragile proprietary PHP module which requires the sacrifice of kittens for it to setup properly. |
| 22:24.55 | stew | crissi: you have the Xsession bug at the top |
| 22:25.09 | JasonF | chealer: does "obsolete" mean no security updateS? |
| 22:25.13 | ribnitz | JasonF: Only thing that stops is sec updates. If it was a monitored env, and you had a fw.. |
| 22:25.16 | Ts0p | Tassium i do have that? |
| 22:25.27 | stew | JasonF: yes, security updates may cease anytime starting in july |
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| 22:25.42 | chealer | JasonF: right, security updates will stop then |
| 22:25.47 | JasonF | Alright. Dang. That means I have to fix that php module between now and then, I had my hopes up to high. |
| 22:25.50 | JasonF | lol |
| 22:26.35 | hjubal | where do I enable udev and disable devfs in kernel config? |
| 22:27.02 | stew | hjubal: what kernel version are you building? (and why bother building your own kernel?)? |
| 22:27.13 | hjubal | 2.6.16.13 vanilla |
| 22:27.25 | Ts0p | Tassium:can you guide me please, i want debian box to act as a server? so i can use my xp box and mount debian to save my work , music pictuers |
| 22:27.28 | pyroplasm | es0: I do. |
| 22:27.43 | Tassium | Ts0p: I'm sorry, I don't have time tonight to walk you through the entire process of learning how to set up Debian |
| 22:28.00 | carl | haha |
| 22:28.00 | stew | hjubal: devfs was dropped from the kernel as of 2.6.13 so you don't have to disable it. the u in udev means userspace so it doesn't have a kernel config option, but it requres sysfs and hotplug support |
| 22:28.15 | es0 | pyroplasm. did you have any problems getting it to run (ie. kernel modules, etc) |
| 22:28.19 | Surgo | Having a problem starting XEmacs in X (both from the standard Debian archive and built from source), getting (error "Must be a string, vector, or font-instance" #<x-device on ":0.0" 0x36b>), anyone have any idea what's going on? I don't get it when I run xemacs -nw, I can paste the entire backtrace in a private message if needed. |
| 22:28.24 | Solet_mod | to run a windows app with wine do you run the install with wine to install it? or do you install it on a windows machine and just copy the directory off of the windows machine on to the linux machine and wine the application that way |
| 22:28.28 | hjubal | stew, I'm going to build my custom kernel hoping to solve some sound problem |
| 22:28.30 | Tassium | Ts0p: I've only got about 5 min left and that's just not enough. Check the Install documentation, then look at /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:28.53 | stew | hjubal: what is the sound problem? its unlikely that you'd fix a sound problem by using your own 2.6.16 over the debian 2.6.16 |
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| 22:29.00 | Ts0p | Tassium:no man i want you to show me what do i need to read on... |
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| 22:29.06 | stew | hjubal: what version of debian are you running? |
| 22:29.14 | Ts0p | what kind of pkgs i need ? |
| 22:29.22 | foo | !ops minK spamming on PM |
| 22:29.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: minK spamming on PM |
| 22:29.25 | hjubal | stew, sarge 3.1 running a custom kernel 2.6.5 |
| 22:29.27 | stew | Ts0p: install samba, and read /usr/share/doc/samba/ |
| 22:29.32 | hjubal | stew, sorry, 2.6.8 |
| 22:29.46 | stew | hjubal: try the 2.6.16 from backports.org, /msg dpkg backports ; http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 22:30.21 | hjubal | stew, ok, I'm going to take a look to it |
| 22:30.22 | Ts0p | hjubal:be nice to stew and listen to everything he say to you, better off write down everything he tells you... he is very good |
| 22:30.23 | hjubal | tnx |
| 22:30.32 | pyroplasm | es0: no. It just has no precompiled modules and has to build them. it's a pain that you have to run config after every kernel update but else... |
| 22:30.43 | Ts0p | Tassium : thanks |
| 22:31.02 | hjubal | Ts0p, hehe.. I'm going to write down everything I hear of |
| 22:31.03 | foo | Bah. No ops around. |
| 22:31.06 | es0 | pyroplasm. thanks, that's what I needed to know. |
| 22:31.09 | Ts0p | stew thanks , so all what i want is samba |
| 22:31.26 | Tassium | Ts0p: Samba provides the windows-style file sharing |
| 22:31.35 | stew | Ts0p: samba implements the windows shared folder protocol or whatever you wanna call it |
| 22:31.51 | Tassium | stew: Server Message Block? |
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| 22:32.33 | stew | foo: "/stats p" will list the on-dute ircop, /msg whomever that is with the problem you are having, this is probably more appropriate since the person isn't doing anything wrong in-channel |
| 22:32.39 | stew | ^dute^duty |
| 22:32.51 | foo | stew: Right, was just doing that. this bot's in serveral channels |
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| 22:32.59 | Ts0p | stew : Tassium: do you have a good site that will explain to me how to set this up regarding IP and how to route? |
| 22:33.21 | needsnick | Hi all... dpkg appears to have been locked by webmin does anyone now a definitive way to kill it from root |
| 22:33.25 | stew | Ts0p: beyond /usr/share/doc/samba i dunno |
| 22:33.27 | runix__ | hey :) how do I do to run the exim configuration script again? (the one in the installation) |
| 22:33.31 | Tassium | Ts0p: Not off the top of my head, no. But really, between the Debian Install HOWTO and man 5 interfaces, you should be good to go. |
| 22:34.09 | Tassium | runix__: dpkg-reconfigure exim (exim4?) I think |
| 22:34.27 | needsnick | i have tried /etc/init.d/webmin stop |
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| 22:34.37 | runix__ | Tassium: just found it. is weird, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 22:34.39 | MikeSeth | damn it really sucks to lose a box thousands of miles away |
| 22:34.40 | runix__ | Tassium: tnx |
| 22:34.41 | MikeSeth | grrrr |
| 22:34.48 | needsnick | it says the kill is not permitted |
| 22:35.11 | Ts0p | !apt |
| 22:35.11 | dpkg | hmm... apt is Advanced Packaging Tool, a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, most notably apt-get and apt-cache. see also <apt-get> <apt-cache> |
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| 22:35.36 | MikeSeth | in other words, APT IS GOD |
| 22:35.39 | iter | MikeSeth: there's a nice package called monit that can restart sshd if it goes buh bye |
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| 22:36.07 | MikeSeth | iter, it's not sshd, lighttpd is misconfigured and eating up all tcp connections |
| 22:36.28 | Tassium | Yeooww, that's rough |
| 22:36.29 | MikeSeth | gotta wait till the traffic slows down, otherwise I'd have to reboot the box :( |
| 22:36.51 | crissi | dpkg: Xsession was missing. thx a lot. |
| 22:37.03 | Alam_Debian | My brain seems to be broken, how do you "print" the source code from gdb and select a frame in the stack? |
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| 22:37.35 | Ts0p | i get E invalid operation when i apt-get samba |
| 22:37.46 | Tassium | Ts0p: man apt-get (HINT: apt-get install samba) |
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| 22:38.04 | iter | MikeSeth: monit can also kill/restart any other service that's doing bad things like that |
| 22:38.07 | Ts0p | err i knew it |
| 22:38.11 | iter | it's really dope software |
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| 22:38.39 | MikeSeth | iter, thanks for the tip, I'll certainly look into that |
| 22:38.41 | needsnick | any answers? i cannot apt-get because it is locked by another process however i can apt-get from within webmin, ergo webmin is the culprit |
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| 22:38.59 | iter | yeah I only found out about it recently myself so I'm all hot on monit |
| 22:39.00 | MikeSeth | needsnick, ergo, the 'other' process needs killin' |
| 22:39.00 | needsnick | i cannot kill -9 webmin either |
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| 22:39.14 | Solet_mod | to run a windows app with wine do you run the install with wine to install it? or do you install it on a windows machine and just copy the directory off of the windows machine on to the linux machine and wine the application that way |
| 22:39.16 | beefcake | can someone help me making a raid |
| 22:39.21 | beefcake | softraid |
| 22:39.21 | is_null | stew : i tryed all propositions from http://dpkg.vireo.org/factoid.php?key=usbmouse, however, even thgouth startx is not craching anymore, i still can't use my mouses (configurated as ! explorerPS2, protocol : exps2), mdetect -x returns /dev/psxaux and ImPS/2 (because of stew's tips ;)) |
| 22:39.26 | needsnick | what other process? |
| 22:39.30 | Ts0p | Tassium i am very n00bie and trying to learn, i write all what you guys tell me , but now am at work and i don't have my note book with me so ...heheheheh |
| 22:39.34 | beefcake | 4* 300gb maxtor on a tx2 promise ide controller |
| 22:39.42 | Tassium | Solet_mod: run the installer with wine |
| 22:39.54 | Solet_mod | thanks |
| 22:40.05 | needsnick | MikeSeth: it may seem a simple problem but I've never run into this one before |
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| 22:40.40 | MikeSeth | it's my fault really... I let apache and lighttpd run free |
| 22:40.43 | stew | is_null: do you have the usbhid and usbmouse modules loaded? |
| 22:40.55 | Ts0p | i get failed to fetch http://http.us.debian |
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| 22:41.14 | MikeSeth | .org? |
| 22:41.24 | needsnick | yes so you deserve all you get |
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| 22:41.27 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, can somebody help me to make work the nvidia-glx-legacy in etch? |
| 22:41.29 | foo | I am trying to watch this video .. http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/rv/high.html .. it buffers, but hangs at 99%. Any ideas? |
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| 22:41.39 | foo | I have w32codecs and mozilla-mplayer |
| 22:41.43 | hjubal | stew, did you mean kernel 2.6.11 at backports? |
| 22:41.59 | Ts0p | could that be because i'm not acually using putty? |
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| 22:42.32 | stew | hjubal: 2.6.16-1 ; what cpu do you have? |
| 22:43.14 | hjubal | amd athlon 2000+ |
| 22:43.18 | stew | hjubal: then you want linux-image-2.6.16-1-k7 |
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| 22:43.59 | Tassium | stew: Shouldn't that be kernel-image? |
| 22:44.31 | jsizzle | anyone know how to get rid of just one of my epplets so it doesn't start automatically when the other ones do? |
| 22:44.35 | jsizzle | thx in adv |
| 22:44.38 | stew | Tassium: no, as of 2.6.12 s/kernel/linux/ since we have non-linux kernels that are viable now |
| 22:44.48 | Tassium | stew: ah, I didn't know that. Thanks. |
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| 22:45.02 | is_null | stew, even ghout these module sare loaded and added to /etc/modules, xserver xorg still doesn't recognize my mouses (touchpad & cheap usb) |
| 22:45.13 | Tassium | is_null: Are you using a KVM switch? |
| 22:45.25 | hjubal | stew, I knew kernel sources/images have been renamed.. you can have kernel linux/hurd/..., so I was looking for 'kernel-image-XXX'.. sorry again :p |
| 22:45.51 | Tassium | stew: I guess you could say I hadn't 'hurd' that yet. |
| 22:45.52 | is_null | not as far as i know; maybe i should ? |
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| 22:46.09 | Tassium | is_null: No, no. KVM switches can cause issues, if you're not using one then don't worry about it. (And you'd know if you were) |
| 22:46.12 | stew | is_null: and you are using /dev/input/mice? |
| 22:46.30 | cge | hjubal, hurd can be used by installing a package!? |
| 22:46.50 | is_null | yes i am stew :s |
| 22:46.57 | stew | Tassium: ba-dumdum |
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| 22:47.21 | hjubal | cge, I do not know.. I've just heard of it |
| 22:47.30 | foo | err, I can't get quicktime videos to play in firefox. I have quicktime-utils, mozilla-mplayer, and w32codecs... it just buffers the whole thing and hangs at 99% and I get stuck on the grey box. Any ideas? |
| 22:47.43 | Tassium | On that (arguably terrible) note, I'm out for the night. Seeyas! |
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| 22:49.22 | is_null | right now, reconfiguring xsrever-xorg, i can only choose within "Imps/2" & "ExplorerPS/2" |
| 22:49.26 | is_null | right now, reconfiguring xsrever-xorg, i can only choose within "Imps/2" & "ExplorerPS/2", tryed both :S |
| 22:49.29 | jsizzle | foo right click then play a few times if that don't work refresh the page and start trying again eventually it works I had the same problem, I dunno if that's the "Official Fix" but that's what I do |
| 22:49.47 | beefcake | anyone have expierence using mdadm? |
| 22:49.55 | jsizzle | eventually it works |
| 22:49.59 | MatBoy | Hey guys, I still can't get any reboot or shutdown button in my etch install on my desktop :( |
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| 22:50.16 | Velte | is_null: His got the same problem I had ;) |
| 22:50.25 | Velte | his = you |
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| 22:50.59 | jsizzle | is_null; edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put in whatever you want |
| 22:51.20 | anabain | does anybody how to remove batch watermarks in a pdf document? |
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| 22:52.38 | cge | Is there some obvious reason why gnome would be much faster and more responsive in Debian than Ubuntu? I just converted my dapper system to unstable, and am seeing, for example, app start time reductions of around 80%. |
| 22:53.30 | beefcake | how do i get my UUID, i need it to make a raid with MDADM |
| 22:53.32 | is_null | i can only choose between ExplorerPS/2 and ImPS/2 when reconfiguring xorg, however, i don't know what to put in xorg conf : beleiveing mouse serction is wich to edit; but what to use ? |
| 22:53.59 | cge | is_null, what mouse do you have? |
| 22:54.15 | carl | why the switch from ubuntu cge? |
| 22:54.17 | is_null | cpp : i use touchpad and usb |
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| 22:54.25 | is_null | any would be enought :) |
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| 22:54.33 | cge | is_null, either one usually works. try ImPS/2 |
| 22:55.34 | cge | carl, I started installing packages from unstable, and then just decided to switch over entirely since I would have to uninstall python-minimal in order to get gnome-menus to install. |
| 22:56.04 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, is there a problem if the version of my nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-kernel-legacy dont match? my nvidia-glx-legacy is versiona 1.0.7174-2 and my nvidia-kernel-legacy is 1.0.7174+1, does this difference may be the cause of the error? |
| 22:56.23 | cge | carl, there seems to be something wrong with the ubuntu gnome packages on my system, which makes them much slower than debian's. apt seems to work much faster too - Reading database takes much less time. |
| 22:56.32 | Velte | Any idea how I can get libqt3c102-mt on SID? |
| 22:56.33 | beefcake | no one here that knows how to use mdadm? |
| 22:56.46 | JasonBoxatWork | I need libc6-dev-amd64 to compile glibc 2.3.6-7, but Sarge doesn't have it -- how do I bootstrap libc6-dev-amd64 so I can build 2.3.6-7, which provides it? |
| 22:56.53 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: no, as long as the upstream version matches, it should work |
| 22:57.12 | chealer | Velte: what's SID? |
| 22:57.46 | cge | Velte, why do you need to? |
| 22:57.57 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, ohhh what coould be the error? |
| 22:59.02 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: I don't know, that's why I'm telling you to try using "old current" drivers |
| 22:59.16 | Velte | chealer: unstable |
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| 22:59.21 | adrakoa | hi |
| 22:59.27 | Velte | cge: because python-qwt and scicraft depends on it... |
| 22:59.30 | anotherircuser | hello ! does anyone knows how to decrease the sound level under command line under a slackware 10.2 ? |
| 22:59.47 | anotherircuser | oups ! |
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| 22:59.53 | chealer | Velte: unstable is sid. you shouldn't use unstable unless you know Debian [well] |
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| 23:00.17 | cge | Velte, where are those? I don't see them with apt-cache show. |
| 23:00.41 | Velte | chealer, why did you ask what sid was then ;) And I must use unstable, because the tool we are developing -> scicraft is unstable |
| 23:01.04 | SonnyBurnett | chealer, so I just need to install the nvidia-graphics-drivers nothing more? |
| 23:01.07 | Velte | scicraft you can find at www.scicraft.org |
| 23:01.12 | Velte | but you don't need it ;) |
| 23:01.42 | cge | Velte, ah. The scicraft package is wrong. You probably need to recompile it. |
| 23:02.12 | cge | Velte, libqt3-mt replaces libqt3c102-mt. |
| 23:02.57 | Velte | I got that message, I have to talk with the other guys in the office I guess |
| 23:03.09 | Velte | scicraft should be in version 0.18 too, maybe its fixed there. |
| 23:03.10 | chealer | SonnyBurnett: I don't know. I can't see why you're getting this problem, other than, maybe, an issue with the packaging of the legacy drivers. so using old "current" drivers may help, or not |
| 23:03.50 | cge | Velte, hmm.... but it installs for me. |
| 23:03.59 | cge | Velte, do you have libqt3-mt installed? |
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| 23:04.49 | Velte | yes |
| 23:04.52 | chealer | Velte: I asked what SID was, not sid |
| 23:05.17 | is_null_ | neither does work, just tryed ImPS/2 agian ... i remember i had quiet a few issues when i installed debian's dvd almost a year ago. However, i feel like i tryed all options from reconfigurating xorg :S (i really can't realize if this message was already posted on the channel, i hardly beleive it wasn't) |
| 23:05.41 | cge | is_null_, have you tried the synaptics driver? |
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| 23:06.22 | kreg_dcdi | does such a php / mysql tool exsist for managing large numbers of ip address? i'd like to be able to track all my public and private addresses |
| 23:06.28 | karma | Why isn't there a dosbox package in testing? |
| 23:06.33 | is_null_ | i can't use a graphical interface since mouse isn't working with xorg (synapics is a graphical application for using apt?) |
| 23:06.45 | chealer | Velte: what do you mean by "scicraft is unstable"? |
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| 23:07.11 | cge | is_null_, synaptic is the program. synaptics is an input driver. They have unfortunately similar names. |
| 23:07.12 | chealer | is_null_: synaptic is a graphical APT frontend |
| 23:07.31 | chealer | oops |
| 23:07.33 | Velte | it depends on packages that exist in unstable.. |
| 23:07.48 | is_null_ | kreg_dcdi, use a php file that you will include in all your site's file logging all $_SERVER array keys might help you |
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| 23:08.00 | chealer | Velte: and why would that keep you from using it on another release? |
| 23:08.33 | Velte | because when I tried it on stable, I couldn't get all the packages I needed |
| 23:08.38 | pyroplasm | is_null_: with the psmouse, mousedev, usbhid and this http://pastebin.com/699086 section in xorg.conf my usb mouse and touchpad works just fine using /dev/input/mice |
| 23:09.34 | chealer | Velte: heh. it doesn't look like you're doing any better with unstable. but anyway, using unstable is a bad idea if you need to learn using Debian |
| 23:10.19 | Velte | yeah, had lots of problems with unstable too... whent from stable -> unstable, xorg didn't work, and scicraft depends on to much |
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| 23:10.24 | cge | Velte, I can't understand why you would be having the problem. Whay package says it depends on the c102? |
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| 23:11.00 | cge | Velte, hah, yes. 284MB additional space to install scicraft on my system. |
| 23:11.05 | is_null_ | ok, as far as i know : synaptics is not running on my computer, i will apt it, then use pyroplasm's configuration lines, thank you all(even if it's not working i must give you super-guys a break for something like an hour) |
| 23:11.47 | Velte | to use scicraft, I need python-qwt, and qwt wants libqt3c102-mt |
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| 23:12.16 | cge | Velte, hmm... according to the scicraft package, that isn't a dependency, but only a recommendation. |
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| 23:12.58 | Velte | jepp, but I need it for what I am doing with scicraft ;) |
| 23:12.59 | cge | Velte, I see the problem now though. You will have to build python-qwt from source. |
| 23:13.03 | Velte | plotting |
| 23:13.34 | Velte | I am gonna test 0.18 first, maybe its fixed there |
| 23:14.44 | cge | Velte, the problem is that the packages are out of date, so that might fix it, yes. |
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| 23:16.12 | cge | Velte, unfortunately, the scicraft maintainers seem to do a rather poor packaging job. build-dep python-qwt doesn't work. |
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| 23:16.15 | guyzmo | hi |
| 23:17.01 | guyzmo | can anyone point me to the FAQ about the gpg keys validation in apt ? |
| 23:17.17 | guyzmo | (if it's in a bot or you know it offhead, it'll save me little time :]) |
| 23:18.00 | streuner | guyzmo: /topic? |
| 23:18.25 | guyzmo | oh |
| 23:18.29 | guyzmo | that's because of the caps :P |
| 23:18.39 | guyzmo | sorry |
| 23:18.42 | guyzmo | streuner - thanks :) |
| 23:18.42 | hjubal | good night |
| 23:18.48 | streuner | sure, i hate CAPS too ;-) |
| 23:18.48 | myren | is there some way to allow one user to have two id's |
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| 23:19.03 | myren | i'm using 2024 at work, and user 1000 on my laptop and its fucking pissing me off |
| 23:19.04 | anotherircuser | oups ! |
| 23:19.20 | myren | the only remote mounting i can use is stupid ass smb, and then symlinks dont work |
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| 23:19.35 | guyzmo | (because I did actually read the topic, and I missed it :]) |
| 23:19.38 | guyzmo | well thanks again |
| 23:19.40 | guyzmo | and gn |
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| 23:20.23 | Velte | cge, I'll have a chat with them about it tomorrow ;) |
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| 23:21.21 | Althaser | in update-alternatives how can I set + for other option ? please |
| 23:21.48 | myren | ffuuuucckckkkk |
| 23:21.53 | myren | i fucking hate uid's |
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| 23:23.25 | stew | Althaser: you want to set + or *? |
| 23:23.54 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 23:23.54 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 23:23.56 | myren | i'm uid 1000, how do i remote mount on a system where i have uid 2112? |
| 23:24.01 | myren | someone fucking help me god damn it |
| 23:24.01 | tarzeau | myren: why? |
| 23:24.09 | tarzeau | myren: NFS? |
| 23:24.10 | myren | work system, i have no choice |
| 23:24.13 | stew | Althaser: usually you only want to worry about * = the currently selected alternative |
| 23:24.21 | myren | anything that'll give me symlinks. nfs would be great. |
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| 23:25.56 | myren | :( :( |
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| 23:26.45 | RainbowW | http://pastebin.com/698133 how would i construct a wildcard email address (like, say, .*@mydomain.com) that would actually work in the whitelist? |
| 23:27.12 | myren | tarzeau: nothing? |
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| 23:28.13 | Althaser | stew is + set the window manager default ?? |
| 23:29.15 | tarzeau | myren: sync one uid to the other |
| 23:29.43 | myren | no offense mate, but thats a shite answer |
| 23:29.51 | tarzeau | myren: no man |
| 23:29.54 | SexyKen | Okay guys -- so I just did "apt-get source php4" and I'm editing the debian/rules file to include the config value I need. What do I do next? |
| 23:30.00 | myren | i've got my home network, work has their patchwork network |
| 23:30.04 | tarzeau | myren: unless you can provide a better solution, it's pretty much TEH answer |
| 23:30.08 | myren | i've got four different uid's at work |
| 23:30.20 | tarzeau | myren: then fix the uid's at work first |
| 23:30.23 | myren | and i dont think they're going to let me fix this patchwork crap |
| 23:30.24 | stew | Althaser: no, * is the default. update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 23:30.43 | tarzeau | myren: what's the name of your workplace? |
| 23:30.43 | myren | the fact that you can only remote mount on networks you control is mother fucking bollox, no offense |
| 23:30.48 | tarzeau | myren: post it to /. |
| 23:30.48 | Althaser | stew hum ok do you know what + means ? |
| 23:31.03 | myren | i might. this is pathetic |
| 23:31.04 | tarzeau | myren: i agree |
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| 23:31.11 | stew | Althaser: the highest priority alternative that will be selected for you if you don't select one yourself |
| 23:31.12 | tarzeau | myren: it's a unix/linux problem |
| 23:31.32 | tarzeau | myren: i agree |
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| 23:31.44 | myren | it is a problem. :/ |
| 23:31.50 | myren | thank you. |
| 23:32.03 | tarzeau | myren: there is no solution. :( |
| 23:32.06 | tarzeau | myren: play nethack? |
| 23:32.46 | Shadowcat | what's myren trying to do? |
| 23:32.53 | petemc | abuse people |
| 23:33.01 | Althaser | stew there is any change to modify the + to other window manager ? like we do as * ? please |
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| 23:33.07 | Shadowcat | i.e. scriptkiddie? |
| 23:33.08 | myren | i've been cut on for the past three weeks, i reserve some venting rights |
| 23:33.10 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: no |
| 23:33.15 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: nfs sucks |
| 23:33.25 | Shadowcat | so don't use nfs |
| 23:33.27 | Shadowcat | problem solved |
| 23:33.29 | myren | Shadowcat: i'm trying to mount a remote system where my uid != their uid |
| 23:33.29 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: actually his workspace sucks |
| 23:33.33 | myren | remap uid's |
| 23:33.49 | Shadowcat | again, stop bitching about the obvious and do something about it |
| 23:33.54 | Shadowcat | if nfs doesn't work, then use samba |
| 23:34.01 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: hahaha |
| 23:34.02 | petemc | myren: what the hell do uids on remote systems matter |
| 23:34.06 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: PLEASE don't be hilarious |
| 23:34.14 | Velte | cge, 0.18 works much better, don't know why its not reachable through apt yet... |
| 23:34.17 | dondelelcaro | NFS sucks, but most things suck more... |
| 23:34.18 | LordVorp | mount -o uid=(remote_uid) box:/share |
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| 23:34.21 | Shadowcat | tarzeau: I use samba by default, I think it's a lot more flexible |
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| 23:34.35 | myren | samba & cifs either dont support symlinks (no unix extensions) or wont remap (with unix extensions) |
| 23:34.36 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: samba or cifs? |
| 23:34.49 | myren | -o uid only works without unix extensions, aka no symlinks |
| 23:34.51 | Shadowcat | samba package i ndebian |
| 23:34.52 | myren | aka square one |
| 23:35.04 | Shadowcat | !cifs |
| 23:35.04 | dpkg | i guess cifs is Common Internet File System or see SMB, or it is basically SMB without NBT |
| 23:35.16 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: cifs supports larger files |
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| 23:35.40 | LordVorp | I'm testing a custom 2.6 kernel but when it boots and all is well and can be connected to remotely, the keyboard stops working. Any ideas what I missed in the kernel config? |
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| 23:35.55 | tarzeau | LordVorp: i386? |
| 23:35.59 | myren | evidetly unfs (userspace nfs server) supports static remappings, but there's no docs on it |
| 23:36.08 | LordVorp | tarzeau: yeah |
| 23:36.19 | tarzeau | LordVorp: usb , ps/2 or din ? |
| 23:36.24 | LordVorp | ps/2 |
| 23:36.24 | tarzeau | LordVorp: x or console? |
| 23:36.29 | LordVorp | console |
| 23:36.31 | Shadowcat | heh you guys wanna hear something funny |
| 23:36.37 | tarzeau | LordVorp: strange, no idea |
| 23:36.39 | Shadowcat | this video card of mine, crashes at 52 C |
| 23:36.47 | Shadowcat | but it's fine at temperatures above or below that |
| 23:36.48 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: very funny indeed |
| 23:37.04 | Shadowcat | if you leave it at 52 C for a while it'll crash, but if you go above, it'll run fine for hours |
| 23:37.07 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: alot of hardware act like that (at different high temperatures) |
| 23:37.19 | Shadowcat | ehh 52 C isn't high for a video card |
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| 23:37.36 | LordVorp | Shadowcat: oh yeah? put your hand on it. |
| 23:37.38 | LordVorp | :) |
| 23:37.45 | Shadowcat | when it's > 65 we can start talking |
| 23:37.57 | Shadowcat | LordVorp: err no I already have a temperature diode on it |
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| 23:38.32 | shogunx | Shadowcat whats a temperature diode? |
| 23:38.46 | Shadowcat | shogunx: you're kidding right? |
| 23:38.48 | yetistomps | i would like /home/yetistomps/stuff/firefox1.5 to be untarred in /opt. I typed: sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.2.tar.gz BUT i get an error: no such file??! |
| 23:39.10 | shogunx | Shadowcat I know what a diode is, but have never heard of a temperature diode. |
| 23:39.14 | tarzeau | anyone in switzerland join me tomorrow at http://maps.google.com/?om=0&ll=47.530401,7.616959&spn=0.005658,0.012757&t=h ? |
| 23:39.25 | Shadowcat | o.k. |
| 23:39.34 | Shadowcat | shogunx: you're never touching the hardware in my machines |
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| 23:39.56 | Shadowcat | temperature diodes are integrated into just about every piece of critical equipment these days |
| 23:40.03 | Shadowcat | I believe most processors have at least one |
| 23:40.14 | dondelelcaro | they're usually called thermocouples |
| 23:40.15 | Althaser | stew thanks ;) let me test |
| 23:40.21 | shogunx | Shadowcat i would assume a diode that cuts current at a certian temp? |
| 23:40.32 | bronze | lessee, a "temperature diode" only lets the temperature flow in one direction?... :) |
| 23:40.32 | shogunx | but allows it through at lower temps. |
| 23:40.47 | Shadowcat | I guess it's a resistor |
| 23:40.58 | Shadowcat | and the current going through it tells the measuring equipment what the temperature is |
| 23:41.09 | dondelelcaro | that's a thermocouple... |
| 23:41.12 | shogunx | i could see a transistor and a themometer doing the above... |
| 23:41.19 | Shadowcat | ok fine, thermocouple |
| 23:41.31 | Shadowcat | they're called diodes across the computer hardware community |
| 23:41.44 | bronze | Not in the US. |
| 23:41.47 | shogunx | odd. not a diode at all. |
| 23:41.58 | Shadowcat | tell that to every hardware site out there not me |
| 23:42.07 | dondelelcaro | uh... they're not called diodes, because thermocouples aren't diodes... |
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| 23:43.12 | shogunx | that would be cool tho... a diode that ceases to conduct (then effectively becoming a diode) at a certain temp. would be very handy for protection circuitry. |
| 23:43.14 | bronze | Thermocouple = 4,240,000 pages, Temperature diode = 18,300 pages |
| 23:43.44 | Shadowcat | shogunx: that exists |
| 23:43.59 | shogunx | sub would be for is then:) |
| 23:44.00 | Shadowcat | that's what happens if your processor goes north of 90 C |
| 23:44.06 | shogunx | heh. |
| 23:44.06 | pyroplasm | myren: maybe sshfs (shfs-utils or sshfs=>fuse) might work for you (if speed is not the issue) |
| 23:44.10 | Shadowcat | or your video card goes north of 80 C or something |
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| 23:45.11 | bronze | shogunx: another word for your protection circuit is "fuse" :) |
| 23:45.52 | Shadowcat | I actually wish motherboards had fuses |
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| 23:45.58 | shogunx | bronze that yields a permenantly open circuit tho. |
| 23:46.06 | Shadowcat | the only component in your machine that has a fuse is the psu |
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| 23:46.08 | shogunx | at least till the fuse is replaced. |
| 23:46.09 | bronze | and the really nifty ones use bi-metallic elements that automatically reset themselves when the temp goes down |
| 23:46.12 | Shadowcat | and you can't open it to get to it either |
| 23:46.18 | Shadowcat | becaus you void the warranty :( |
| 23:46.19 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: sure you can... |
| 23:46.25 | Shadowcat | because* |
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| 23:46.39 | shogunx | bronze well, yeah. circuit breakers are nice. |
| 23:46.40 | Shadowcat | dondelelcaro: ya you can physically, but you'll void the warranty on it if you do |
| 23:46.51 | dondelelcaro | if you care about the warranty, you shouldn't be opening the PSU... plus, generally once you've blown a fuse, you've lost the warranty anyway. |
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| 23:47.21 | Shadowcat | I don't |
| 23:47.48 | Shadowcat | 90% of my psus are modded anyway; the most common component I replace is the fan |
| 23:47.52 | Shadowcat | makes the thing less noisy |
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| 23:48.51 | magyar | is xorg broken on sid? I get a login screen from kdm, but unable log in, it's an endless loop. |
| 23:49.25 | shogunx | magyar check your /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 23:49.35 | rredd4 | where is flight of the amazon queen I did find -name Flight_of_the_Amazon_Queen and it returned nothing. I also looked under /usr/games, not there. |
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| 23:50.59 | magyar | shogunx: i am from console right now. I have no /etc/X11/Xsession, only Xsession.options and Xsession.d directory |
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| 23:51.12 | r_marvin | rredd4: i think it's in contrib or someting |
| 23:52.10 | r_marvin | !flight-of-the-amazon-queen |
| 23:52.38 | LordVorp | OK, different kernel question: when I say "poweroff", the system halts and says "Power off" and then doesn't turn off. |
| 23:52.41 | LordVorp | suggestions? |
| 23:53.06 | rredd4 | shutdown -h now |
| 23:53.10 | myren | ok, so userspace nfs server 2.2 happens to have a map_static which allows uid rewriting... unforunately it gives me |
| 23:53.13 | myren | drwx------ 12 4294967294 4294967294 4096 2006-04-27 10:58 /work |
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| 23:53.23 | myren | gee willickers batman, thats fucked up |
| 23:53.50 | LordVorp | rredd4: doesn't work with this kernel. works just fine with the "stock" kernel. my question is, any kernel-option suggestions to make powering off work? |
| 23:54.23 | myren | of course, the kernel nfs server and unfs3 neither support remapping |
| 23:54.52 | dvs | LordVorp: load the acpi kernel module and Debian package |
| 23:54.59 | shogunx | maygar /etc/X11/Xsession would be handy in letting kdm know what to do after you login. |
| 23:55.22 | myren | and now i kill |
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| 23:55.45 | myren | petemc: and who is trying to piss who off here? |
| 23:56.20 | rredd4 | LordWorp: someone else is going to have to help you... sorry |
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| 23:57.38 | shogunx | gravity good job the 7.0.15->16 fix. |
| 23:58.40 | `UD | any one know how to tell what /dev/ to use with my nokia phone hooked upto to my pc via usb data cable |
| 23:58.52 | gravity | shogunx: Thanks, but I broke something else and got yelled at for it |
| 23:59.13 | shogunx | gravity, what broke? |
| 23:59.29 | adrakoa | bye |
| 23:59.33 | magyar | shogunx i am pussled, i worked on my system without any issues, did a update, rebooted today and cant get into KDE and missing Xsession. hmmm? |
| 23:59.49 | gravity | shogunx: See magyar's complaint |