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| 00:00.21 | hellangel | evaded, re =) |
| 00:00.34 | stoned | FreshPrince, I run RFS its great |
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| 00:00.39 | FreshPrince | hmhm |
| 00:00.40 | FreshPrince | well |
| 00:00.54 | dli | FreshPrince, power off during writing, no problem with reiser4 |
| 00:01.01 | FreshPrince | stoned, well why not debian BASED distro's` u mean: no knoppix, kanotix, ubuntu etc?.. |
| 00:01.08 | dli | stoned, what is rfs? |
| 00:01.18 | FreshPrince | dli, a filesystem :) |
| 00:01.31 | dli | FreshPrince, what filesystem :( |
| 00:01.33 | stoned | FreshPrince, you CAN, if you want to, but I'd rather you just used debian itself and NOT debian based, just my two cents |
| 00:01.38 | stoned | dli, Reirser FS |
| 00:01.42 | stoned | shorthand, RFS |
| 00:01.51 | stoned | pretend I know how to spell |
| 00:02.00 | dli | stoned, don't use reiserfs :( |
| 00:02.04 | dli | !reiserfs |
| 00:02.05 | dpkg | methinks reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
| 00:02.05 | FreshPrince | dli, lol..i dont know i dont use it.. i use ext2 and xfs ;) |
| 00:02.10 | evaded | hellangel: Have you add you're user to the 'audio' group before loging? |
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| 00:02.17 | hellangel | evaded, no i didnt find that |
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| 00:02.28 | dli | FreshPrince, if you have ups, xfs should be great |
| 00:02.36 | FreshPrince | stoned, yes i understand u.. but whats the reason not to use based debian distros? |
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| 00:02.39 | scorn | chealer: I see what you are referring to, but in the past, up until this point, this was all taken care of by making a user a member of the group "camera" has this changed recently? |
| 00:02.44 | FreshPrince | dli, yes ;) |
| 00:02.46 | evaded | hellangel: So that logout was for nothing :-/ I look for the cli method |
| 00:02.49 | stoned | !debian based |
| 00:02.49 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 00:03.07 | dli | FreshPrince, does xfs pack small files? |
| 00:03.25 | hellangel | evaded, i found user and groups settings but thers no "audio" group :> |
| 00:03.32 | FreshPrince | dli, why not? ;) |
| 00:03.39 | stoned | it just scewes with the way debian does things, and then changes modifies them, and when the users can't find support in respectivie channels, they come here to #debian and ofcourse we won't be able to help them, because this is #debian, not #debianbased |
| 00:03.40 | stoned | etc... |
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| 00:04.03 | evaded | hellangel: I think you need to 'select' 'system users/and groups' to view all the users and groups |
| 00:04.09 | stoned | Kovecses, /me pass you the bong |
| 00:04.14 | dli | FreshPrince, no, I don't think so, it doesn't |
| 00:04.24 | evaded | hellangel: Go back again to that interface and look a bit |
| 00:04.27 | FreshPrince | dli, well.. |
| 00:04.37 | hellangel | evaded, i just checked, i seem to be in audio group |
| 00:04.41 | FreshPrince | stoned, strange.. |
| 00:04.52 | hellangel | im in audio, cdrom, dialer, floppy, plugdev and video |
| 00:05.04 | Kovecses | hellangel, what card do you have? |
| 00:05.05 | scorn | thanks anyway. |
| 00:05.29 | evaded | hellangel: So you was already in the audio group? |
| 00:05.47 | hellangel | seems |
| 00:05.51 | zenwryly | I'm trying to find the apt-key for http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/. Anyone know? |
| 00:05.51 | hellangel | Kovecses, creative audigy 2 |
| 00:06.10 | Kovecses | hellangel, sarge? |
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| 00:06.41 | FreshPrince | stoned, may i see a screenshot from your desktop? |
| 00:06.45 | hellangel | KonphuzeD, 2.16 |
| 00:06.47 | stoned | FreshPrince, why? |
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| 00:07.05 | FreshPrince | stoned, i wanna see your debian ;P hehe =) |
| 00:07.11 | FreshPrince | well |
| 00:07.11 | stoned | http://bungs.dontexist.com/nv.jpg |
| 00:07.15 | FreshPrince | stoned, thx |
| 00:07.48 | hellangel | evaded, now what can it be if not that :/ |
| 00:08.14 | FreshPrince | stoned, i like distro's who are always up to date.. and ubuntu is always up to date.. with many new packages etc.. but debian.. what i on debian so great? (sry i just want to know it.. :( ) |
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| 00:08.40 | serfurj | anybody know how i can configure X to let me type accented characters? i've tried setting a "compose" key in ~/.Xmodmap, but i'm still unable to type accented characters. |
| 00:08.41 | evaded | hellangel: I think we have failes on point 5) OSS modules unloaded? |
| 00:08.48 | jroes | Doug Stanhope |
| 00:08.49 | evaded | s/failes/failed |
| 00:08.50 | jroes | what the heck is that |
| 00:09.03 | hellangel | evaded, hmm but you saw my lsmod |
| 00:09.04 | stoned | FreshPrince, I use debian/unstable, always have, and I don't reccomend it unless you know what you are doing. I always have latest bleeding edge software, if its not a debian package, I'll make one for myself from source, etc. |
| 00:09.23 | stoned | FreshPrince, you have use sarge/testing and get latest packages from unstable and compile them from source using dpkg |
| 00:09.28 | stoned | FreshPrince, its called backporting |
| 00:09.45 | evaded | hellangel: Yes, but i have also tell you that i'm was not sure that the oss module are been not loaded there |
| 00:09.49 | azeem | eh, dpkg doesn't compile packages |
| 00:10.06 | stoned | er.. yeah |
| 00:10.11 | hellangel | hmm |
| 00:10.16 | FreshPrince | stoned, yes i know backporting from ubuntu =) |
| 00:10.42 | stoned | I meant apt |
| 00:10.54 | stoned | but dpkg came out, I had a hit holding in my lungs which I just coughed out |
| 00:10.57 | stoned | so ... :( |
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| 00:11.07 | Kovecses | apt compile? |
| 00:11.10 | apt | tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand., but for an easier way to compile the kernel, apt-get install kernel-package |
| 00:11.15 | FreshPrince | hmmm |
| 00:11.21 | evaded | hellangel: I have take that page back again, i love the history :-/ |
| 00:11.44 | Kovecses | stoned, im not sure you know what compiling is? |
| 00:11.48 | FreshPrince | stoned, now i realy dont know.. u toul me.. i can keep my system up to date when i install debian unstable with backports.. damn.. :( |
| 00:12.11 | azeem | FreshPrince: do you want to use your system, or do you want to keep it up to date? |
| 00:12.20 | Red_Cloud | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.25 | Kovecses | AMEN azeem |
| 00:12.35 | stoned | I said ..."and I don't reccomend it unless you know what you are doing. " |
| 00:12.41 | evaded | Which OSS module is it for the Creative Audacity 2 http://nopaste.php-q.net/210437 it's to support hellangel here |
| 00:13.01 | FreshPrince | azeem, afcourse use it.. but keep it upt to date too.. |
| 00:13.04 | azeem | Red_Cloud: change the boot order to below S20 |
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| 00:13.16 | FreshPrince | stoned, hm.. :( |
| 00:13.40 | Kovecses | FreshPrince, there is nothing that I can do on ubuntu that I cant on debian... and debian is WAY more stable |
| 00:13.42 | stoned | FreshPrince, rule of thumb, if it doesn't need to be updated, don't update it. I still have a woody box running as a server, no need to upgrade, it works prefectly |
| 00:13.44 | Red_Cloud | azeem do I use update-rc.d for that? |
| 00:13.44 | john | Is there a way to edit the default keyboard layout? So I can make the "PgDn" button can do something different, etc. |
| 00:13.52 | azeem | Red_Cloud: I think you can |
| 00:13.58 | azeem | Red_Cloud: or you can do it manually |
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| 00:14.51 | FreshPrince | stoned, ok.. |
| 00:15.01 | FreshPrince | Kovecses, yes i know.. debian is damn stable |
| 00:15.06 | evaded | Can someone confirm that the OSS module are been not loaded ? Link are in the previous message |
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| 00:16.10 | Red_Cloud | azeem I just started using update-rc.d whenever I started messing with the creation of thie /etc/init.d/barnyard file. It sure is a time saver. The number sequence given in the man page has me confused. Right now both barnyard and mysql are S20. That I can understand, but the remaining single digit numbers given in the illustration in the man page has me confused. What do they represent? |
| 00:16.31 | stoned | I just dont understand how people can use free software, then get free support, better than support you get from paid products, and still bitch about it |
| 00:16.31 | hellangel | evaded, hmm :( |
| 00:17.29 | evaded | hellangel: I'm considering my as en newbie ;-) so i like to recive some confirmation/suggestion and critics of others/ |
| 00:18.04 | hellangel | evaded, yeah it just doesnt work :P |
| 00:18.33 | evaded | stoned: You speak about 2 differents worlds, the good one and the crap one ;-) |
| 00:18.45 | stoned | evaded, excuse me? |
| 00:19.10 | stoned | I don't quite understand what you mean? |
| 00:19.12 | evaded | stoned: Like you not understand how people ... |
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| 00:19.46 | evaded | stoned: I had not read it good, now i have read it better :-/ |
| 00:20.01 | stoned | well of course I understand that a lack of knowledge, a new OS, is somewhat intimidating, and people can get frustrated, but still, it isn't right for them to bitch about shit they get for free anyway |
| 00:20.08 | stoned | thats my beef, thats all, anyway carry on |
| 00:20.44 | FreshPrince | !debian based |
| 00:20.44 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 00:20.53 | stoned | FreshPrince, use /msg dpkg <keyword> |
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| 00:21.14 | evaded | FreshPrince: Try '/msg dpkg selftell' |
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| 00:21.33 | evaded | stoned: The world are strange, the world are stone! |
| 00:21.43 | stoned | evaded, sure man, whatever you say ;) |
| 00:22.16 | evaded | stoned: Hey look that : '/msg dpkg shit' :-) |
| 00:22.24 | stoned | evaded, the world is a singular, not a plural, and for that you must use 'is' not 'are' |
| 00:22.26 | stoned | ok |
| 00:22.30 | evaded | stoned: Some guys do it to many :-) |
| 00:22.46 | stoned | actually, fecal matter smells a lot different than ass sweat |
| 00:22.54 | stoned | wait, why thell are you even talking about that |
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| 00:22.55 | stoned | ugh |
| 00:22.58 | FreshPrince | evaded, ah ok |
| 00:23.00 | FreshPrince | stoned, ok sry |
| 00:23.07 | evaded | stoned: Yep, i'm bad in english, very bad, not easy to try to manage 3 languages :-/ |
| 00:23.15 | stoned | evaded, its quite alright |
| 00:23.24 | zirikili | how do I set parameters for a module during boot? |
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| 00:24.35 | evaded | Like you place an module in the config file?? |
| 00:25.04 | stoned | no I think he wants to specify different stuff |
| 00:25.06 | rredd4 | Is this correct? tpconfig -t= 1 |
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| 00:25.17 | evaded | zirikili: Like modulename -param x/y-M$ |
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| 00:26.11 | Red_Cloud | azeem, OK I think that I have changed the order of execution. Will reboot and see. Thanks very much for your help. |
| 00:26.13 | evaded | rredd4: man tpconfig, laptop are sleeping now |
| 00:26.48 | evaded | Why my wife power that laptop always off when she have done :-( |
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| 00:26.52 | stoned | like " options modulename moduleoptions >/etc/modutils/whatever the hell was here" |
| 00:26.53 | stoned | etc.? |
| 00:27.06 | stoned | zirikili, is this what you are looking for |
| 00:27.15 | stoned | then run like module-update |
| 00:27.19 | stoned | er.. update-modules |
| 00:27.21 | evaded | I need to tell she a bit more about the Debian, but thechnically |
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| 00:27.36 | rredd4 | evaded: thank you, I did that. I still get corner taps disabled; no tap gestures. |
| 00:27.45 | thingfish | evaded: you at a party? |
| 00:28.11 | evaded | thingfish: Yes an little party alone, here on pico appartement |
| 00:28.13 | stoned | modconf, /etc/modules/ where else? |
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| 00:29.12 | azeem | stoned: you know > as redirection operator truncates the original file? |
| 00:29.12 | hellangel | thingfish, could you maybe tell us? :Which OSS module is it for the Creative Audacity 2 http://nopaste.php-q.net/210437 it's to support hellangel here |
| 00:29.13 | zirikili | I want to load bttv module during boot with tuner=37 card=2 parameters |
| 00:29.15 | evaded | guys, when i have money, i pay you an language decoder :-) |
| 00:30.00 | stoned | azeem, truncate? |
| 00:30.40 | thingfish | hellangel: I may have asked you already, but...which kernel are you running? uname -r |
| 00:30.42 | rredd4 | when I type tpconfig --tapmode=1 I still get "no tap gestures" why? yes I did read the man. |
| 00:31.05 | stoned | oh I siad a single |? |
| 00:31.07 | stoned | doh > |
| 00:31.22 | stoned | my keyboard is fscked |
| 00:31.41 | evaded | rredd4: Have you also another mouse connected to it? |
| 00:31.46 | rredd4 | no |
| 00:32.11 | rredd4 | it sees the synaptic pad too |
| 00:32.23 | rredd4 | when I do -i |
| 00:32.27 | thingfish | hellangel: that means tell me what it returns when you do 'uname -r' in a terminal. |
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| 00:32.54 | thingfish | hellangel: because if you're using a 2.6 kernel I don't think you need to be concerned about oss. |
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| 00:33.55 | hellangel | 2.6.8-3-386 |
| 00:34.21 | thingfish | hellangel: all I can tell you is what I have to do: post-install, I install alsa-base along with a lot of other things then reboot. when I get up into gnome, I have to check the digital/analog out switch in gnome-alsamixer. then I have audio. |
| 00:34.33 | thingfish | hellangel: and I have an audigy2 gamer. |
| 00:34.47 | evaded | thingfish: So it's only for kernels < 2.6? |
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| 00:35.02 | hellangel | thingfish, i didnt reboot, i just logged off and on again |
| 00:35.05 | thingfish | evaded: well I don't know that you can exactly say that. |
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| 00:36.51 | Red_Cloud | Even a blind chicken get a grain every once in a while |
| 00:37.07 | hellangel | thingfish, think i should reboot and try again then? |
| 00:37.08 | OetmetG | does anyone know of a good database designer? |
| 00:37.18 | copyclose | how come my networking isn't working after i installed kernel 2.6.16.14? |
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| 00:37.42 | Ironhand | are there any programs that provide similarity similar to locate(1) without the need to run something like updatedb regularly (which can be pretty disruptive for various things)? |
| 00:37.49 | copyclose | any ideas? |
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| 00:37.57 | Red_Cloud | I have now completed the writing of /etc/init.d/barnyard and created the sym links and the boot order has now been corrected and it is logging to BASE |
| 00:38.00 | rredd4 | anyone else know about tpconfig please? |
| 00:38.04 | copyclose | but when i boot back to 2.6.8-3 it works |
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| 00:38.18 | Estes | Hi everyone, i got an issue of this kind: "E: The package linux-image-2.6.15-486 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." but... rc kernel-image-2.6.15-486 |
| 00:38.30 | thingfish | hellangel: I would. |
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| 00:38.52 | hellangel | thingfish, btw what gnome alsamixer? you mean the consoleone dont you |
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| 00:39.41 | thingfish | hellangel: no, there's an extra gui mixer called gnome-alsamixer that I use, because often the default installed volume mixer doesn't have the digital/analog out jack switch. |
| 00:39.51 | stoned | thingfish, can I msg you about non-linux stuff |
| 00:40.03 | stoned | please, pretty please |
| 00:40.04 | thingfish | hellangel: you won't need to worry about that unless you're using the digital out jack for your speakers. |
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| 00:40.12 | hellangel | nah im not |
| 00:40.13 | thingfish | stoned: sure |
| 00:40.13 | hellangel | brb gonna reboot |
| 00:40.15 | stoned | thanks |
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| 00:40.35 | leOn | hey |
| 00:40.55 | Astral_Projectio | hi, can someone tell me why the hell KDE programs late when I start them. It happens when I'm conneccted to Internet.. |
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| 00:40.57 | Astral_Projectio | strace says bind(11, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(967), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
| 00:40.58 | Astral_Projectio | connect(11, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(111), sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0.1")}, 16 |
| 00:41.26 | leOn | trying to backport request-tracker3.4 from unstable to stable, package builds and installs fine, but then i get an error in the apache log |
| 00:41.27 | copyclose | hey, after i upgraded my kernel from 2.6.8-3 to 2.6.16.14, i get this error when booting: "Kernel panic - not synching: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2) |
| 00:41.35 | voltagex | when KDE starts, my touchpad stops working, although it works fine in KDM |
| 00:41.36 | leOn | [Sun May 7 00:27:09 2006] [crit]: The 'comp' parameter (undef) to HTML::Mason::Request::CGI->new() was an 'undef', which is not one of the allowed types: scalar object |
| 00:41.40 | leOn | any ideas? |
| 00:41.58 | voltagex | leOn: what kernel are you using? |
| 00:42.06 | voltagex | oops sorry |
| 00:42.17 | Red_Cloud | azeem, thanks for you help. I have just successfully install and configured snort, mysql, barnyard, and BASE. And....all is working as advertised. |
| 00:42.28 | voltagex | copyclose: you haven't compiled in support for your filesystem |
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| 00:45.09 | copyclose | voltagex: what you mean? |
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| 00:45.45 | hellangel | re |
| 00:46.13 | hellangel | thingfish, i rebooted now but i still have no sound :( |
| 00:46.15 | voltagex | copyclose: do you know if you use ext2, ext3 or reiser? |
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| 00:46.35 | dweb | shogunx,you around? |
| 00:47.39 | thingfish | hellangel: my limited knowledge can take us no farther. Let's hope maybe abrotman or azeem steps in and helps you. |
| 00:47.54 | copyclose | ext3 |
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| 00:48.14 | wow4ik | f |
| 00:48.17 | voltagex | copyclose: and you selected ext3 in the kernel config? |
| 00:48.17 | wow4ik | U |
| 00:48.18 | wow4ik | C |
| 00:48.19 | wow4ik | K |
| 00:48.21 | wow4ik | Y |
| 00:48.22 | wow4ik | OU |
| 00:48.25 | wow4ik | A |
| 00:48.25 | wow4ik | L |
| 00:48.26 | wow4ik | L |
| 00:48.49 | wow4ik | I AM RUS MAFIA |
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| 00:48.58 | Dustbuster | *cough* n00b *cough* |
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| 00:49.08 | evaded | That is usefull '/clear' |
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| 00:49.15 | hellangel | thingfish, okay thanks for all the help and thank you too evaded |
| 00:49.32 | evaded | hellangel: You're Welcome :-) |
| 00:49.37 | voltagex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.40 | copyclose | voltagex, i don't remember |
| 00:49.49 | voltagex | copyclose: make menuconfig again |
| 00:49.50 | wow4ik | LOOSER |
| 00:50.06 | voltagex | check that ext3 is [*] and NOT [M] |
| 00:50.08 | copyclose | voltagex, you wanna see my config? |
| 00:50.12 | voltagex | no |
| 00:50.14 | copyclose | k |
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| 00:50.57 | wow4ik | FUCK YOU MOTHER COPYLOSE |
| 00:51.42 | wow4ik | bye bye |
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| 00:53.43 | voltagex | copyclose: what is it set to? |
| 00:54.46 | copyclose | wait a sec |
| 00:54.56 | copyclose | do i have to recompile after i change this? |
| 00:55.17 | voltagex | copyclose: yes |
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| 00:56.27 | copyclose | they're all * |
| 00:56.56 | copyclose | the only one that's [M] is: Filesstem in Userspace support |
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| 00:58.13 | voltagex | doh |
| 00:58.28 | copyclose | voltagex? |
| 00:58.45 | voltagex | umm, if you know what device your hard drive is, put it in root= in grub or lilo |
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| 00:58.56 | voltagex | and also try getting rid of APIC support |
| 00:59.07 | voltagex | that's what fixed it when I got the message |
| 00:59.11 | interbird | I would'nt wow4ik's permissions being set to 0000 |
| 00:59.28 | interbird | (mind) |
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| 01:00.04 | copyclose | voltagex, how do i do that? |
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| 01:00.18 | voltagex | copyclose: do you use lilo or grub? |
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| 01:00.26 | copyclose | grub |
| 01:00.32 | evaded | interbird: What mean you? |
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| 01:00.46 | voltagex | /etc/boot/menu.lst |
| 01:00.48 | voltagex | I think |
| 01:00.53 | interbird | just read the capitals on this channel |
| 01:00.54 | copyclose | yeah i know |
| 01:00.58 | copyclose | then what? |
| 01:01.13 | voltagex | copyclose: edit that in nano or something as the root user |
| 01:01.15 | Sambo619 | can i bother someone for a moment regarding a driver patch? |
| 01:01.26 | copyclose | k |
| 01:01.29 | copyclose | im there |
| 01:01.32 | voltagex | copyclose: do you know what device your hard drive is? |
| 01:01.35 | evaded | interbird: You know, some people ... |
| 01:01.40 | copyclose | hd0 |
| 01:01.43 | unstable | !tell Sambo619 about ask |
| 01:01.44 | copyclose | i think |
| 01:01.44 | interbird | Sambo619: Try me |
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| 01:01.53 | unstable | Sambo619: I doubt anyone can help you if you don't ask a question. |
| 01:02.01 | voltagex | copyclose: try a df -h, look at what's next to / |
| 01:02.24 | copyclose | /dev/hda2 |
| 01:02.57 | voltagex | copyclose: that should mean either, put /dev/hda2 after root= or.... |
| 01:03.10 | voltagex | put hd(0,2) |
| 01:03.14 | voltagex | ah let me check |
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| 01:03.55 | copyclose | title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.16.14 |
| 01:03.55 | copyclose | root (hd0,1) |
| 01:03.55 | copyclose | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16.14 root=/dev/hda2 ro acpi=off |
| 01:03.55 | copyclose | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.14 |
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| 01:04.11 | interbird | !tell unstalble about politeness |
| 01:04.15 | copyclose | title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.16.14 |
| 01:04.15 | copyclose | root (hd0,1) |
| 01:04.22 | voltagex | copyclose: don't paste |
| 01:04.24 | copyclose | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16.14 root=/dev/hda2 ro acpi=off |
| 01:04.24 | copyclose | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.14 |
| 01:04.29 | voltagex | copyclose |
| 01:04.31 | voltagex | don't |
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| 01:04.49 | evaded | interbird: The '-about' are more interested in this case |
| 01:05.29 | evaded | interbird: I mean if you do '!tell unstalble -about politeness', you got not the result of politeness in you're dpkg conversation. |
| 01:05.31 | interbird | evaded: this was a virtual (!) :-) |
| 01:05.45 | unstable | !politeness |
| 01:05.45 | dpkg | [politeness] putting the toilet seat down |
| 01:05.53 | voltagex | copyclose: ok, remove that root=, I was thinking lilo... your config should be correct, just try adding a nolapic after the acpi=off |
| 01:06.04 | interbird | :-) |
| 01:06.14 | Azar | hehe kernel 2.6 said to be buggy the linux dev team thinks to re-work it entirely |
| 01:06.16 | EdLin | !kingsleysmite evaded |
| 01:06.16 | dpkg | Citizen Volunteer evaded: Your Productivity* Rating has fallen below 0.560901692460419! This is unacceptable. Please report to http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ for immediate termination! |
| 01:06.18 | evaded | interbird: Does not matter, i talk about that '-' before the about ;-) |
| 01:06.26 | copyclose | voltagex |
| 01:06.29 | copyclose | now what |
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| 01:06.47 | voltagex | copyclose: save the file, reboot... make sure you've added nolapic after acpi=off |
| 01:06.53 | voltagex | nolapic may fix it |
| 01:07.28 | copyclose | voltagex: what is ro? |
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| 01:07.31 | copyclose | 'ro' |
| 01:07.48 | limpio | read-only |
| 01:07.51 | voltagex | copyclose: read only I think, needed for boot for some reason, don't touch |
| 01:07.53 | copyclose | oh ic |
| 01:07.56 | Sambo619 | i'm having a problem patching orinoco drivers in ubuntu, i have a forum topic thats getting no love at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171510 |
| 01:08.08 | copyclose | aight |
| 01:08.08 | interbird | evaded: I know, I'm sorry I put the toilet seat down for Sambo619 and then pissed besides the seat :-) |
| 01:08.10 | voltagex | !ubuntu |
| 01:08.10 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 01:08.12 | copyclose | imma try to reboot it |
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| 01:08.37 | evaded | interbird: '/clear'?? work that cmd on the toilet?? |
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| 01:08.47 | evaded | :-) |
| 01:09.38 | interbird | evaded: both |
| 01:10.11 | evaded | interbird: So it's '/clear toilet && seat' :-) |
| 01:11.06 | voltagex | evaded: clear toilet && seat && flush && umount /dev/toilet |
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| 01:12.04 | evaded | voltagex: And don't forget 'shutdown -h now light' when finish :-p |
| 01:12.25 | copyclose | voltagex; i still get the same error |
| 01:12.38 | voltagex | copyclose: I'm sorry, I'm out of ideas |
| 01:12.39 | copyclose | UDF-fs: No partition found (1) |
| 01:12.45 | interbird | voltage: You assume all the hardware is mounted :-) |
| 01:12.48 | Azar | do the debianized kernels get combed for the bugs? |
| 01:12.53 | voltagex | UDF-fs???? |
| 01:13.22 | voltagex | why the F### are you trying to mount UDF? that's a CD/DVD format! |
| 01:13.30 | evaded | !udf |
| 01:13.30 | dpkg | hmm... udf is at http://www.trylinux.com/projects/udf/index.html, or with tools at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/udf/tools/?cvsroot=linux-udf, or apt-get install udftools |
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| 01:13.41 | copyclose | well, that what it says |
| 01:13.55 | ephracis | Sounds like a livecd. |
| 01:13.59 | copyclose | no its not |
| 01:14.05 | voltagex | copyclose: did you randomly select things that looked good in the kernel or something??! |
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| 01:14.13 | Azar | :) |
| 01:14.25 | copyclose | no, my friend gave me his '.config', he's a gentoo user |
| 01:14.26 | copyclose | :D |
| 01:14.35 | Azar | aha you got the answer there |
| 01:14.47 | voltagex | rm .config && make menuconfig |
| 01:14.52 | SpyderMan | lol |
| 01:14.58 | Azar | copyclose: I had a gentoobie friend too, that why I installed Debian 57 times, you figure |
| 01:14.59 | copyclose | then recompile? |
| 01:15.02 | SpyderMan | <copyclose> no, my friend gave me his '.config', he's a gentoo user |
| 01:15.10 | voltagex | unless you have EXACTLY the same machine as your friend, it will not work |
| 01:15.11 | SpyderMan | that must go down as a quote somewhere |
| 01:15.23 | copyclose | oh ic |
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| 01:15.31 | voltagex | SpyderMan: we need an op, that should be a quote |
| 01:15.38 | Azar | SpyderMan: you see a lot of people with gentoo friends coming here when their Debian breaks |
| 01:15.42 | evaded | copyclose: It's like when i go to the Ferari garage with my Porche :-/ |
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| 01:16.13 | interbird | :-) |
| 01:16.22 | voltagex | no, more like trying to rebuild the engine in a Porsche with nothing other than a handbook from a Ford |
| 01:16.25 | copyclose | im using debian though |
| 01:16.43 | voltagex | copyclose: a .config is for ONE specific machine/configuration only |
| 01:16.46 | SpyderMan | s/Ford/Kit car ;) |
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| 01:16.59 | Azar | copyclose: you should learn Debian ways then. If I were you I would reinstall and do everything step by step the debian way |
| 01:17.06 | copyclose | hell no |
| 01:17.15 | copyclose | im not reinstalling everything |
| 01:17.17 | Azar | hell yes or I take your head |
| 01:17.19 | voltagex | Azar: that sounds a bit sarcastic |
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| 01:17.23 | voltagex | Azar: STFU |
| 01:17.30 | Azar | voltagex: no it is not, that is the way I learned |
| 01:17.52 | copyclose | Azar, you a dumbass man, why would you tell somebody to reinstall his shit? |
| 01:18.05 | voltagex | copyclose: you only need to delete the .config, and make a new kernel config -- but it sounds like you'd be better off with debian precompiled |
| 01:18.17 | voltagex | Azar: reinstalling everything is the *Windows* way |
| 01:18.25 | copyclose | word ^^ |
| 01:18.25 | Dustbuster | lol |
| 01:18.49 | interbird | cat ferrari-manual.txt | sed -f sex-change > porche-manual.txt |
| 01:18.52 | Azar | voltagex: I never reinstalled Windows, I did that with debian because I was trying to learn on my own |
| 01:18.56 | voltagex | although, that said, KDE is now so fucked on my machine that it needs to be resinstalled |
| 01:19.12 | voltagex | Azar: we're dealing with an incompatible .config here, that's all |
| 01:19.18 | copyclose | well Azar, im not you |
| 01:19.23 | copyclose | lol |
| 01:19.31 | Azar | KDE blows |
| 01:19.44 | voltagex | copyclose: don't bother compiling your own kernel until you're comfortable with linux |
| 01:19.44 | copyclose | i know right, how you gonna fucking reinstall just because i get that error |
| 01:19.57 | voltagex | copyclose: calm down |
| 01:19.57 | SpyderMan | Azar : keep reinstalling it - it'll work some day :) |
| 01:20.30 | copyclose | and i have debian working, i just upgraded my kernel and starts fucking up |
| 01:20.32 | Azar | SpyderMan: that was two, three years ago, now I am ok with it |
| 01:20.44 | voltagex | copyclose: compiling your own kernel is quite a complicated process |
| 01:20.49 | Azar | copyclose: you compiled it the gentoo way? |
| 01:20.58 | copyclose | ? |
| 01:21.00 | voltagex | copyclose: no, it's fucking up, because gentoo is not debian |
| 01:21.12 | copyclose | !gentoo |
| 01:21.12 | dpkg | gentoo is probably a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 01:21.32 | voltagex | copyclose: you can't just drop a .config from another machine in |
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| 01:21.54 | voltagex | copyclose: to compile your own kernel, you need to know EXACTLY what's inside your computer |
| 01:22.03 | voltagex | copyclose: stick with debian precompiled kernels |
| 01:22.06 | Azar | when I first came here for help, I was using sid with a custom compiled kernel. I had no idea why everything stopped working :) |
| 01:22.07 | copyclose | ic |
| 01:22.10 | interbird | The complexity of a task is relatively reversed relative to the operator's intelligence |
| 01:22.17 | voltagex | Azar: Sid :S |
| 01:22.19 | interbird | (knowledge) |
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| 01:22.33 | voltagex | interbird: so you think a kernel compile is easy? |
| 01:22.42 | epictetus | I think a kernel compile is easy. |
| 01:22.50 | voltagex | interbird: what about for someone who's relatively new to linux |
| 01:22.52 | Azar | voltagex: I was green new at linux and Debian and I had no idea what Sid was, just a friend who is a gentoo user told me to get Sid |
| 01:22.56 | blaheva | I access a sparc over the network (no monitor), how can I set VNC to start automatically. I don't wanna have to telnet in to start it |
| 01:23.16 | voltagex | epictetus: yay linux elitism :/ |
| 01:23.28 | voltagex | Azar: someone was playing a practical joke on you ;) |
| 01:23.40 | evaded | blaheva: '/msg dpkg startup' |
| 01:23.42 | epictetus | voltagex: it can be a little time consuming but it isn't that hard. the HOWTO helps a lot. |
| 01:23.48 | interbird | voltagex: That she or he has less knowledge, like I said -- so I guess we agree ? |
| 01:23.49 | voltagex | copyclose: so what are you going to do now |
| 01:23.49 | Azar | voltagex: I know is easy to fool newbies |
| 01:23.50 | blaheva | !startup |
| 01:23.50 | dpkg | If you want your Debian system to run a script at startup, say 'your_script' do the following: put your script in /etc/init.d/your_script; then create the following symbolic link: ln -s ../init.d/your_script /etc/rc?.d/SXXyour_script, where ? is the desired runlevel, S is the letter S and XX is a number between 00 and 99. The number indicates the order in which scripts get executed. |
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| 01:24.32 | voltagex | epictetus: considering the trouble copyclose has had, he's not quite ready yet (no offense copyclose ;) ) |
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| 01:25.27 | interbird | There's a firt time for verything copyclose -- don't let voltagex scare you |
| 01:25.32 | copyclose | ready for what? |
| 01:25.54 | blaheva | evaded, is their a template I can use for a startup script? |
| 01:25.56 | copyclose | and i aint scared to nobody, i do whatever i wanna do |
| 01:26.10 | voltagex | interbird: well I'm not helping next time -_- |
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| 01:26.29 | evaded | blacke: A template? i guess you have not good understand dpkg |
| 01:26.36 | evaded | oeps |
| 01:26.38 | copyclose | and how you gonna help somebody and say "im ran our of ideas" |
| 01:26.41 | copyclose | LOLOLOL |
| 01:26.47 | copyclose | out* |
| 01:26.48 | evaded | blaheva: A template? i guess you have not good understand dpkg |
| 01:26.49 | copyclose | i* |
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| 01:27.37 | interbird | volragex: sorry man, no pun intended, please don't refrain from helping |
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| 01:27.46 | burl_dean | i have no sound. Im using a es1371 modules and i believe i must enable the digital output on the chipset. does anyone have any experience with this? |
| 01:28.06 | azuroth | hmm, I also have no sound, burl_dean |
| 01:28.11 | Azar | burl_dean: you never had sound? |
| 01:28.17 | burl_dean | never |
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| 01:28.27 | Azar | burl_dean: when did you install, and what operating system? |
| 01:28.37 | burl_dean | 1st time installing linux on this box |
| 01:28.46 | Azar | burl_dean: linux... what? |
| 01:28.54 | Azar | burl_dean: what linux? |
| 01:28.59 | burl_dean | winxp i gotta check digital out in the driver properties |
| 01:29.12 | burl_dean | debian sarge |
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| 01:29.37 | Azar | ok burl_dean you are in for a bit of work, sarge comes with oss if you installed with linux 2.4.27 |
| 01:29.48 | Azar | burl_dean: what kernel version you got? uname -a |
| 01:30.04 | burl_dean | Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Aug 17 09:33:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:30.16 | azuroth | I'm on unstable, and recently after an upgrade my sound stopped working. any idea where I should start looking? |
| 01:30.39 | Azar | burl_dean: oook. you can get sound on it too, but if you do a 15 min install of a 2.6.8 kernel you get more support for hardware . Do you want that? |
| 01:31.17 | burl_dean | i tried knoppix with a 2.6 kernel and alsa and still couldnt get any sound |
| 01:31.20 | interbird | azuroth: plugs and cables; alsa configuration; boot knoppix; lspci -- for starters ? |
| 01:31.30 | marco13185 | help |
| 01:31.38 | Azar | burl_dean: becaus the oss module blocks loading alsa at bootup |
| 01:31.59 | Azar | burl_dean: ok so you do not go for a 2.6 kernel |
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| 01:32.03 | Azar | do this then |
| 01:32.43 | Azar | paste the output of /etc/modules in a paster and show us : http://channels.debian.net/paste |
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| 01:34.16 | burl_dean | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2499 |
| 01:35.04 | Azar | burl_dean: ok good, now you install alsa |
| 01:35.08 | Azar | !alsa one-liner |
| 01:35.09 | dpkg | from memory, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 01:35.19 | Azar | burl_dean: do that line from dpkg |
| 01:35.49 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, how can I load firefox as root? |
| 01:35.50 | pm2 | What's the debian command for adding init scripts to start at various runlevels? |
| 01:36.04 | recognizer | Hello, somebody know to use kino? i have a problem with the capture, video and sound, because dont dsplay on kino, thanks! |
| 01:36.37 | Azar | burl_dean: for 2.4: apt-get install |
| 01:36.40 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:37.31 | Azar | pm2: ask in private: /msg dpkg startup |
| 01:37.48 | interbird | pm2: I know this is not what you asked but you might like to try webmin. Otherwise it should be here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 01:37.51 | opticoz | HI, I need to setup my host in this format |
| 01:37.51 | opticoz | Ex: /home/yoursite/www/oempv3050 (for Linux/Unix/*nix) |
| 01:37.57 | opticoz | cant figure it out |
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| 01:38.05 | opticoz | can anyone help? |
| 01:38.29 | SonnyBurnett | HI, Or maybe you can tell me how can Ioad programs that use the X as root? |
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| 01:38.46 | pm2 | interbird, no, I definately don't want to try webmin ;-) (/me shudders) -- I just couldn't remember the "Debian way" of doing it. Thanks, Azar, that had the answer to my ? |
| 01:39.02 | interbird | opticoz: With apache use virtual hosts |
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| 01:39.11 | Azar | pm2: it looks like what you are searching for |
| 01:39.21 | opticoz | the server is running nix though? |
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| 01:39.44 | opticoz | I am setting up an email program |
| 01:39.54 | opticoz | http://www.atrix.ampedhost.com/asmshop/OEMP/system/installation/index.php |
| 01:40.02 | opticoz | cant get software path to configure |
| 01:40.13 | dhe1 | how do I get xorg server? I want to run fluxbox but its failing on some dependencies I guess. |
| 01:40.20 | Nixdorf | please... some one know link in internet for debian 2.2 potato instaler for download ? |
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| 01:40.32 | jtd_ | can I get some help configuring Postfix to work for sending mail from Thunderbird? it keeps asking for my password over and over. there are some error messages in my /var/log/mail.info about SASL authentication failing. |
| 01:40.45 | dhe1 | Nixdorf: debian.org, look for mirrors. |
| 01:41.02 | evaded | SonnyBurnett: Why would you do that? Use an normal user |
| 01:41.17 | SonnyBurnett | evaded, I need to install a xpi as root in firefox |
| 01:41.34 | evaded | SonnyBurnett: xpi? |
| 01:41.41 | Azar | Nixdorf: http://www.aboutdebian.com/install.htm |
| 01:41.59 | SonnyBurnett | evaded, an extension |
| 01:42.15 | r121 | how do I set up KDE to be default, and use KDM instead of GDM? |
| 01:42.19 | mustard5 | SonnyBurnett, xpi would install to user space wouldnt it? |
| 01:43.02 | interbird | opticoz: There's a special setting in the apache configuration-file to direct requests to local user home-dirs; it uses a ~ in the request-header |
| 01:43.25 | dhe1 | how do I get xorg server? I want to run fluxbox but its failing on some dependencies I guess. |
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| 01:43.52 | burl_dean | Azar, got that installed but alsamixer gives an error |
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| 01:43.56 | blaheva | !startup |
| 01:43.56 | dpkg | If you want your Debian system to run a script at startup, say 'your_script' do the following: put your script in /etc/init.d/your_script; then create the following symbolic link: ln -s ../init.d/your_script /etc/rc?.d/SXXyour_script, where ? is the desired runlevel, S is the letter S and XX is a number between 00 and 99. The number indicates the order in which scripts get executed. |
| 01:43.58 | _rain | r121: dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 01:44.02 | Nixdorf | Azar: thx for help me! |
| 01:44.03 | Azar | burl_dean: what error? |
| 01:44.08 | burl_dean | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 01:44.17 | dli | will this eva-im be in debian? http://sourceforge.net/projects/evaq |
| 01:44.22 | Azar | burl_dean: apt-get install alsamixer |
| 01:44.23 | evaded | Hoela, again morning :-(, i go to sleep a bit. Guys, guys guys, thanks for all you're knowledges ;-) |
| 01:44.26 | SonnyBurnett | Is it possible to install nvu in etch? |
| 01:44.31 | Nixdorf | dhe1: thx! |
| 01:44.49 | Azar | burl_dean: ah, it does not read your sound device |
| 01:44.53 | r121 | _rain: thanks |
| 01:45.17 | Azar | burl_dean: do a lspci command and tell me what is listed under Multimedia audio controller please |
| 01:45.32 | burl_dean | will i need to rmmod the old module? |
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| 01:45.42 | Azar | burl_dean: not yet |
| 01:45.48 | burl_dean | Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 09) |
| 01:45.50 | interbird | dhe1: You're not running Xorg already ? |
| 01:46.01 | Azar | ok hold a moment I will look on my modconf |
| 01:46.15 | burl_dean | i have physically check the chipset it is a es1373 |
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| 01:46.48 | Azar | burl_dean: I need to see what is running as module for your audio |
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| 01:47.07 | burl_dean | es1371 23820 1 |
| 01:47.35 | Azar | burl_dean: ok one min |
| 01:47.38 | interbird | dhe1: apt-get install xserver-xorg |
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| 01:50.06 | Azar | burl_dean: on my sound module list I only see es1688 |
| 01:50.59 | samuel | i want to allow file sharing between computers (all debian linux) - should i use samba or nfs? (i already have ssh running, but i want something else that may be there as a "backup" for the sole windows computer on the net) |
| 01:52.35 | Azar | hmm is esoniq sound chip gone from linux kernel? |
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| 01:53.15 | SpyderMan | samuel NFS sucks, samba sucks a little less |
| 01:53.18 | SpyderMan | IMHO |
| 01:53.58 | SpyderMan | samuel : part of the question is how you authenticate though |
| 01:54.11 | dbindner_ | It's unfortunate that NFS isn't better, but I use it quite a bit for sharing things like /home. |
| 01:54.30 | samuel | SpyderMan, ive been reading... it seems like NFS is better if your not worried about security... |
| 01:54.39 | samuel | and samba if you are |
| 01:54.47 | interbird | samual: nfs is perhaps more easy to setup than than samba but samba has more capabilities |
| 01:54.49 | samuel | host based vs user based im reading |
| 01:55.06 | SpyderMan | dbindner_ : sharing /home is more about how you authenticate |
| 01:55.08 | Azar | burl_dean: do a lsmod and past in the paster |
| 01:56.30 | interbird | samual: nfs comes in two flavors: kernel and userland based |
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| 01:57.05 | SpyderMan | interbird : the thin that sucks the most about NFS is not the implementation, it's the protocol |
| 01:57.31 | recognizer | hello, some know to use kino?, i hava a litle problem! |
| 01:57.38 | burl_dean | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2500 |
| 01:57.47 | interbird | SpyderMan: Correct, samba is the better choise but this needs a good smb.comf |
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| 01:58.08 | samuel | SpyderMan, UDP vs TCP? |
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| 01:58.54 | interbird | samual: udp for local tcp if you want remote (internet) access |
| 01:59.14 | azuroth | oh, wow. I just ran alsaconf and everything works. :D |
| 01:59.28 | Azar | burl_dean: do you know how to blacklist a module? |
| 01:59.35 | azuroth | thanks, interbird |
| 01:59.57 | feltz | Hi, I installed Unreal Tournament with Loki's 436 GOTY installer, and it runs fine (graphics and sound are great) but the game speed keeps changing during a match |
| 01:59.57 | burl_dean | Azar, ive never even heard of doing that |
| 02:00.13 | samuel | SpyderMan, interbird thx... ima read up some more on this and how to setup smb.cnf |
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| 02:00.15 | samuel | thanks |
| 02:00.32 | roderyk | has someone here installed kommute successfully? After fixing a bunch of dependencies with ./configure, it seems to work correctly.. but bombs on the make without too many helpful errors. Maybe someone could offer some advice:http://pastebin.com/702865 |
| 02:00.33 | feltz | Like, I'll be playing and it's normal speed and then for the next 3-4 seconds it will be twice as fast and sensitive, then go back to normal |
| 02:00.38 | feltz | Anyone else have that problem? |
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| 02:01.01 | SpyderMan | samuel : np - if you have no need to share with legacy NFS clients, then forget it. Just about anything you choose in its place will be better :) |
| 02:01.38 | Azar | burl_dean: to make easier to understand, your Debian Sarge came by default with an oss sound module : it is outdated . When you boot up the oss module starts and blocks alsa . So, you need to put that module in a blacklist so the kernel will understand not to load/use the oss module |
| 02:02.03 | SpyderMan | Azar : even after a reinstall :) |
| 02:02.08 | samuel | SpyderMan, thanks |
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| 02:02.21 | Azar | SpyderMan: what to say, I am additcted to reinstalls |
| 02:03.02 | SpyderMan | Azar : then I think you have your answer :) |
| 02:03.43 | burl_dean | Azar, where is this blacklist located? |
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| 02:04.08 | Azar | burl_dean: I just have a momentary brain damage, I am trying to remember how to blacklist a module |
| 02:04.17 | Azar | one sec |
| 02:04.23 | interbird | samual: If you want to know more about samba then install swat; it has very good documentation on localhost:901 -- you have to enable this service in /etc/inetd.conf by removing the # |
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| 02:05.41 | Azar | burl_dean: ok in /etc/hotplug there is a blacklist, use your editor to add your oss module there: its name: es1371 |
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| 02:06.50 | Azar | burl_dean: ok after that I can see you do not have all your alsa modules in if you installed alsa, run alsaconf : command: alsaconf |
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| 02:10.43 | Supaplex | when speaking of scsi termination, it only applies to the physical end of the cable, right? eg, order of scsi id's on the bus doesn't matter. |
| 02:10.53 | interbird | I have udev and ldap enabled but very early in the boot process udev complains about ldap not being active because it's not started yet -- any way to supress those udev messages ? |
| 02:11.09 | burl_dean | Azar, do i need to reboot so that the alsa module will instead of the oss module |
| 02:11.33 | burl_dean | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:11.43 | Azar | burl_dean: no, try pasting again for me /etc/modules and lsmod |
| 02:11.59 | burl_dean | pasted the alsaconf output |
| 02:12.01 | burl_dean | 2501 |
| 02:12.35 | Supaplex | !fart |
| 02:12.37 | smacnay | what is the /msg apt command to learn the command for holding a package? echo hold > ... |
| 02:13.00 | smacnay | I meant "/msg dpkg" |
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| 02:13.14 | Azar | not good: No soundcards found... |
| 02:13.34 | smacnay | got it |
| 02:13.42 | Azar | burl_dean: listen, if you take 15 min to install a ready compiled 2.6.8 kernel it will be easier |
| 02:14.02 | Azar | just if you want, if not, I can't see much here: your kernel does not "see" your sound device |
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| 02:14.31 | sanmarcos | how can I set my domain name? |
| 02:14.49 | jetscreamer | /etc/hostname or something |
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| 02:14.52 | burl_dean | ok ill install the 2.6.8 kernel |
| 02:14.55 | Azar | burl_dean: ok I will be away shortly for a break |
| 02:14.59 | Azar | burl_dean: you know how? |
| 02:15.27 | sanmarcos | jetscreamer: wrong |
| 02:15.32 | burl_dean | im sure i can google it |
| 02:15.35 | Azar | apt-cache search kernel-image <<< look on the list and pick the 2.6.8 kernel-image that matches best to your CPU |
| 02:15.42 | jetscreamer | ah oops |
| 02:15.42 | odla | can someone check out my /etc/apt/preferences file to make sure that i have it set up to prefer packages from etch over sid http://pastebin.ca/53942 |
| 02:16.00 | jetscreamer | sanmarcos: no i'm not worng, see the 'or something' part :) |
| 02:16.16 | Azar | when you see it, write it down then >>> aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8.....(specs here) |
| 02:16.17 | jetscreamer | but /etc/hostname IS wurng |
| 02:16.38 | burl_dean | Azar, got it |
| 02:16.40 | burl_dean | brb |
| 02:16.49 | jetscreamer | !domainname |
| 02:16.54 | chealer | !tell odla about esm |
| 02:16.55 | jetscreamer | worth a shot |
| 02:17.18 | chealer | odla: use Default-Release instead of pinning yourself |
| 02:17.30 | Azar | welcome back chealer, jetscreamer |
| 02:17.45 | odla | chealer: thanks |
| 02:17.53 | odla | chealer: is pinning deprecated? |
| 02:18.20 | interbird | sanmarcos: echo "myhostname" > /proc/sys/hostname |
| 02:18.31 | chealer | odla: no, Default-Release pins a simple case like this for you |
| 02:18.42 | odla | chealer: ok thanks |
| 02:20.04 | interbird | sanmarcos: correction: echo "mydomainname" > /proc/sys/domainname |
| 02:20.17 | odla | chealer: will that bring in dependencies from testing if possible? i.e. i want to install banshee from sid |
| 02:21.21 | chealer | odla: it depends on how you're overriding the default release. # apt-get -tsid install foo; should attempt satisfying unmet dependencies using sid |
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| 02:21.59 | chealer | odla: you can use # apt-get install foo/version; to avoid that |
| 02:22.17 | odla | chealer: i'm doing apt-get -t unstable install banshee |
| 02:22.44 | chealer | odla: if you want unmet dependencies to come from testing, that will not work |
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| 02:23.12 | odla | chealer: ok |
| 02:23.23 | chealer | s/not work/not do you what you want (it will get them from unstable) |
| 02:23.44 | odla | ? |
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| 02:24.39 | chealer | odla: hum, what's confusing you? for what you said you wanted to do, you should use # apt-get install banshee/version; |
| 02:25.01 | odla | chealer: ok that makes sense |
| 02:25.11 | odla | chealer: it was just the s/not work/not |
| 02:25.14 | odla | sentence :) |
| 02:25.15 | odla | thanks |
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| 02:26.02 | chealer | odla: OK. it means I should have changed "not work" by "not do you what you want (it will get them from unstable)" in my previous message |
| 02:26.30 | chealer | and even s/not work/not do what you want (it will get them from unstable) |
| 02:27.08 | odla | chealer: i guess apt-get -t unstable install banshee will bring in dependencies that are met in testing |
| 02:27.24 | odla | chealer: anyways thanks for the help! |
| 02:27.44 | chealer | odla: no, it will bring [unmet] dependencies from unstable |
| 02:28.11 | odla | chealer: cheers...yeah i got that |
| 02:28.30 | dli | which package for X headers? |
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| 02:28.42 | jetscreamer | xlibs-dev |
| 02:28.45 | chealer | odla: unless you mean "do nothing" by "bring in dependencies that are met" |
| 02:28.45 | jetscreamer | i think |
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| 02:29.01 | dli | jetscreamer, thanks |
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| 02:29.12 | nomasteryoda|w | so any ideas why debian and ubuntu both lock up on a dell inspiron 4150?/// ati mobility chipset |
| 02:29.20 | blaheva | i |
| 02:29.40 | blaheva | i've done what dpkg says, for startup. but the script i want executed still doesn't |
| 02:29.54 | blaheva | i've put a symbolic link in rc2-rc5 |
| 02:30.32 | ecs121 | echo |
| 02:30.37 | jetscreamer | blaheva: i know nothing but is it executable? |
| 02:30.42 | blaheva | yes |
| 02:31.31 | jetscreamer | blaheva: and the symlink opoints at some script in /etc/init.d |
| 02:31.36 | jetscreamer | points |
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| 02:31.43 | jetscreamer | which is +x |
| 02:32.13 | jetscreamer | and you would only need the link in 2 unless you use a different runlevel |
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| 02:32.17 | blaheva | yes |
| 02:32.30 | blaheva | if i execute it in either of rc dirs or the init.d dir it runs |
| 02:32.46 | blaheva | i use default runlevel, 2 |
| 02:34.01 | blaheva | PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
| 02:34.08 | blaheva | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.13 | blaheva | that's all i have in the script |
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| 02:34.43 | dondelelcaro | blaheva: you have a shebang line to start, I presume? |
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| 02:35.04 | jetscreamer | you need #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash at the top |
| 02:35.11 | blaheva | #! /bin/sh |
| 02:35.15 | jetscreamer | i think he means that by shebang |
| 02:35.20 | blaheva | yes |
| 02:35.22 | dondelelcaro | jetscreamer: that's what it's ca..ed |
| 02:35.26 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 02:35.28 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 02:35.45 | dli | jetscreamer, it's libxt-dev :) looks like |
| 02:35.51 | dondelelcaro | blaheva: it's #!/bin/sh not #! /bin/sh; does it do what it's supposed to do when you /etc/init.d/fooscript start; ? |
| 02:35.57 | jetscreamer | would #! /bin/sh == #!/bin/sh ? |
| 02:35.59 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 02:36.24 | blaheva | yes, if i run it myself it starts fine |
| 02:36.29 | blaheva | i'll remove the space |
| 02:36.31 | blaheva | and see |
| 02:37.11 | dondelelcaro | blaheva: then it's probably running at boot to; doesn't the vncserver require the X server to be running? |
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| 02:39.54 | ecs121 | How can I enable OpenGL for the screensaver ? |
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| 02:43.46 | Azar | tarzeau |
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| 02:45.41 | Goat25 | hmm does sarge have mod_dav_svn ? i can't find it |
| 02:46.55 | FauxFaux | Goat25: Tried "subversion"? Think I've seen a box with it on. |
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| 02:48.13 | Goat25 | yeah, subversion doesn't seem to have it |
| 02:48.32 | Goat25 | it doesn't put it in /usr/lib/apache2/modules/ at least anyway |
| 02:48.47 | dondelelcaro | Goat25: you want libapache2-svn |
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| 02:49.30 | Azar | anyone tried freelords game? |
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| 02:49.36 | Goat25 | ah thats it |
| 02:49.37 | Goat25 | thanks |
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| 02:49.52 | dondelelcaro | Goat25: apt-cache search apache subversion; would have clued you in too. |
| 02:49.59 | dondelelcaro | !tell Goat25 -about search |
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| 02:50.15 | dondelelcaro | (as would have apt-file or a search on pdo for files) |
| 02:50.20 | wobbler | Goat check libapache2-svn |
| 02:50.31 | Goat25 | i've been doing dpkg -l | grep, i'm still getting used to the debian package system |
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| 02:50.58 | dondelelcaro | Goat25: yeah, that'll only tell you about installed packages... see what dpkg told you, that has information on how to find packages. |
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| 02:51.52 | Goat25 | oh only installed packages, i'll remember that |
| 02:52.08 | Azar | bah it has a bug |
| 02:52.27 | wobbler | Goat25, check libapache2-svn |
| 02:52.38 | dondelelcaro | wobbler: yes... we've established that... |
| 02:52.47 | wobbler | ok |
| 02:52.51 | Goat25 | i've got it installed already |
| 02:53.19 | Goat25 | now i'm just learning to proper search the package info |
| 02:53.24 | lurker99 | msg dpkg -about search |
| 02:53.28 | SonnyBurnett | diablos! |
| 02:53.31 | SonnyBurnett | sali del juego |
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| 02:54.40 | stoned | ? |
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| 02:56.12 | EdLin | lurker99: you're not lurking very well ;-) |
| 02:56.53 | Azar | lurker99: may I pm you with a question? |
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| 02:57.44 | odl1 | dondelelcaro: do you package R? |
| 03:00.47 | lurker99 | k |
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| 03:01.03 | interbird | nitinite -- take care man of spyders |
| 03:01.11 | ge3 | what's the diff between [*] and [M] when compiling a kernel? |
| 03:01.35 | dvs | [M] is a module, [*] is built in |
| 03:01.39 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
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| 03:01.51 | interbird | * is implicitly compiled in -- there's no module version |
| 03:02.05 | ge3 | i know, what's the diff |
| 03:02.15 | ge3 | what is [M] and what is [*] |
| 03:02.22 | jetscreamer | one is IN, the other can be loaded as a module |
| 03:02.32 | dvs | [M] can be removed without recompiling |
| 03:02.37 | jetscreamer | the module isn't loaded till you load it |
| 03:02.40 | ge3 | oh |
| 03:02.51 | ge3 | how come all files im compiling are [M]? |
| 03:03.07 | dvs | ge3: That's the debian default |
| 03:03.14 | ge3 | oh |
| 03:03.23 | jetscreamer | because that's the way the kernel you were running when you did make menuconfig was configured |
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| 03:03.32 | ge3 | should i [*] it? |
| 03:03.37 | jetscreamer | no |
| 03:03.42 | ge3 | oh ok |
| 03:03.42 | jetscreamer | not unless you know you use it |
| 03:03.43 | dvs | [*] what? |
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| 03:03.48 | ge3 | just makin sure it wont fuck up |
| 03:04.01 | jetscreamer | if you know you DONT use it and will NEVER use it, hit N |
| 03:04.09 | jetscreamer | make it [] |
| 03:04.11 | Phated | Eh, surely you should -know- what you need and whether you should build it in, before compiling a kernel? |
| 03:04.19 | jetscreamer | but KNOW dont GUESS |
| 03:04.26 | dvs | you need a kernel?!? |
| 03:04.26 | ge3 | im using 'make xconfig' |
| 03:05.25 | ge3 | well, some of them are already 'checked' |
| 03:05.28 | jetscreamer | ge3: menuconfig is cool |
| 03:06.07 | jetscreamer | ge3: yeah it takes whatever kernel you're running and sucks the .config in |
| 03:06.32 | ge3 | which? |
| 03:06.35 | ge3 | menuconfig ? |
| 03:06.36 | jetscreamer | so if you're using a debian stock kernel, you'll be getting a lot of stuff you probably won't need |
| 03:06.41 | jetscreamer | any |
| 03:06.47 | ge3 | oh |
| 03:06.51 | jetscreamer | when you do the config, whatever method |
| 03:07.05 | ge3 | but you can uninstall em right? |
| 03:07.16 | Phated | If you don't need them. |
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| 03:07.29 | jetscreamer | ge3: yes, but like i said , guessing can mess you up. KNOW that you won't need it. |
| 03:07.39 | ge3 | some of the stuff i don't need is being compiled now |
| 03:07.40 | jetscreamer | otherwise just leave it it won't hurt |
| 03:07.55 | ge3 | i chose the one i need |
| 03:08.05 | ge3 | like ntfs write support, etc |
| 03:08.15 | dvs | ge3: that's danger |
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| 03:08.19 | jetscreamer | you really don't want ntfs write support |
| 03:08.21 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 03:08.24 | ge3 | why |
| 03:08.35 | dvs | it WILL corrupt your NTFS partition |
| 03:08.37 | jetscreamer | it's not a safe product |
| 03:08.45 | jetscreamer | don't use it on your windows partition |
| 03:08.56 | ge3 | well, its being compiled now |
| 03:09.07 | dvs | it's your computer |
| 03:09.10 | ge3 | its possible to uninstall it later on right |
| 03:09.11 | jetscreamer | you can play with it, but know it might totally hose your windows if you write to that partition |
| 03:09.21 | jetscreamer | not if you hit Y |
| 03:09.26 | ge3 | LOL |
| 03:09.28 | jetscreamer | but M is ok |
| 03:09.34 | tuv | i can't seem to get network-manager working. i added myself to netdev group and reloaded dbus, and now network manager's icon appears with "no network connection" label |
| 03:09.41 | ge3 | i didn't do any N and Y stuff |
| 03:09.48 | tuv | using testing |
| 03:09.48 | ge3 | i used make xconfig |
| 03:10.04 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 03:10.08 | ge3 | !xconfig |
| 03:10.08 | dpkg | somebody said xconfig was for kernels in the 2.4 series and earlier, apt-get install tk8.3, or for 2.6 and newer kernels, apt-get install libqt-dev (woody) or libqt3-mt-dev (sarge or sid), or for GNOME-heads, see gconfig |
| 03:10.21 | Phated | Fine, if you didn't compile it IN instead of as a module, jeez. |
| 03:10.39 | jetscreamer | omg Phated lives! |
| 03:10.42 | ge3 | so you can remove it if its [M] ? |
| 03:10.52 | jetscreamer | yeah it doesn't have to be loaded |
| 03:10.54 | dvs | jetscreamer: the gators didn't get Phated |
| 03:10.56 | ge3 | and [*] is permanent? |
| 03:11.00 | jetscreamer | correct |
| 03:11.02 | Phated | You can unload the module, yes - are you sure you need to compile a kernel? |
| 03:11.04 | ge3 | ic |
| 03:12.18 | recognizer | Hello. i need some help , dont display video and sound of my dvcam on kino!, someone to know what happen ? |
| 03:12.57 | ge3 | !ask |
| 03:12.57 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:13.25 | jetscreamer | recognizer: this sounds like a job for #debian-kde ! |
| 03:13.34 | jetscreamer | look, up in the sky! |
| 03:14.12 | recognizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:15.10 | jetscreamer | recognizer: they might know more, it's a kde app is all i'm saying. you don't have to /part here |
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| 03:15.38 | tuv | so no netowrk-manger users around here/ |
| 03:15.43 | tuv | ? |
| 03:15.43 | intx | between the various different security modules/patches (pax, grsecurity, rsbac, openwall, SELinux), which one has the best support in debian? |
| 03:15.50 | recognizer | jetscreamer, thanks! |
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| 03:16.00 | ge3 | selinux |
| 03:16.28 | Azar | tuv never heard of that |
| 03:16.46 | ge3 | !netowrk-manger |
| 03:16.49 | ge3 | !netowrk-manager |
| 03:16.53 | ge3 | !network-manager |
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| 03:16.56 | ge3 | LOL |
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| 03:17.05 | Azar | well is not a Debian thing I guess |
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| 03:17.36 | erikh | what's the sources.list line for the us non-free repo? |
| 03:17.37 | tuv | no it's not.. but it's supposed to facilitate network setup for the desktop |
| 03:17.42 | Kovecses | im getting raped at poker |
| 03:17.49 | erikh | or can someone tell me how to get the selection dialog again? |
| 03:17.52 | nk2 | hi.. i was wondering if it's possible to install debian over the top of another linux kernel/partition set up, or if you have to use the cd/disks/usb stick/bootp methods? |
| 03:18.04 | Azar | erikh: any source line that ends with non-free contrib (you can add it to your sources) |
| 03:18.11 | chealer | erikh: "the us"? |
| 03:18.17 | erikh | as in united states |
| 03:18.18 | Kovecses | nk2, vmware |
| 03:18.33 | erikh | Azar: I can't seem to get it on kernel.org's mirror |
| 03:18.42 | Azar | erikh: you can edit your sources list in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 03:18.53 | chealer | erikh: the united states non-free repo? |
| 03:18.58 | Azar | erikh: holdoon I will give it to you |
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| 03:19.07 | odla | i keep getting an unmount error when i try to unmount my ipod --> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument. it's mount via gnome-volume-manager |
| 03:19.11 | chealer | erikh: which selection dialog? |
| 03:19.13 | nk2 | kovecses so if i download vmware, i can install debian, without rebooting a cd? |
| 03:19.14 | erikh | Azar: ah! I got it working. |
| 03:19.16 | erikh | thank you. |
| 03:19.24 | Azar | deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib |
| 03:19.25 | Azar | deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib |
| 03:19.33 | nk2 | kovecses i don't need to keep the old one once i have debian, i just don't like burning cds/can't do it succesfully.. third failure now |
| 03:19.34 | erikh | been a while since I've done this |
| 03:19.40 | ge3 | deb ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 03:19.42 | Azar | erikh: change "etch" with your distro : stable or testing or sid |
| 03:19.53 | nk2 | is there some kind of installer to download or run from command line? |
| 03:19.58 | Kovecses | nk2, oh.... do a floppy install |
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| 03:20.16 | erikh | Azar: sweet. thanks again! |
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| 03:20.46 | Kovecses | nk2, what burning app u using? |
| 03:21.03 | EdLin | !u |
| 03:21.03 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:21.16 | nk2 | kovecses i think it's nero |
| 03:21.17 | Kovecses | i knew that was coming |
| 03:21.24 | nk2 | Kovecses: it might be nero plus |
| 03:21.26 | nk2 | i'm not sure anymore |
| 03:21.48 | nk2 | it came with the cd drive.. |
| 03:21.53 | Kovecses | ok U my friends is an IRC thing..... if U dont like it go away |
| 03:22.03 | erikh | heh |
| 03:22.04 | nk2 | !u |
| 03:22.05 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:22.07 | Kovecses | nk2, and its failing |
| 03:22.07 | ge3 | !what |
| 03:22.07 | dpkg | This! |
| 03:22.11 | nk2 | !who |
| 03:22.11 | dpkg | It was the one armed man, I tell you ! |
| 03:22.14 | ge3 | !shit |
| 03:22.14 | dpkg | hmm... shit is fecal matter.. scratch your ass, sniff your finger. Smell that? Shit. |
| 03:22.17 | ge3 | :) |
| 03:22.17 | nk2 | !love |
| 03:22.17 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
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| 03:22.25 | nk2 | !divorce |
| 03:22.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, divorce is necessary. Honestly, without a divorce many women would not have any income (by Harald Schmidt). |
| 03:22.27 | liable | ge3: please dont abuse the bot |
| 03:22.27 | erikh | !annoyingbots |
| 03:22.29 | Phated | ... wtf, play with the bot in /msg! |
| 03:22.37 | Azar | please stop bot abuse, it is an IRC but is not your circus here |
| 03:22.42 | liable | ge3: or go to #debian-bots |
| 03:22.44 | Kinks | Phated: that could be taken as /msg #debian, I think you meant PM |
| 03:22.49 | ge3 | im good |
| 03:22.54 | Phated | /msg dpkg, all right? |
| 03:22.55 | liable | no |
| 03:23.03 | ge3 | i didn't know !love exists |
| 03:23.06 | liable | that wasnt to Phated |
| 03:23.06 | ge3 | i mean !shit |
| 03:23.11 | *** part/#debian erikh (n=erikh@hollensbe.org) |
| 03:23.16 | Phated | liable: I know. |
| 03:23.25 | Kinks | of course "PM" means private message and the actual IRC command is in fact 'privmsg', whether to a channel or nickname |
| 03:23.26 | ge3 | what is the bot based on? |
| 03:23.28 | Kinks | ambiguousity is fun |
| 03:23.29 | Azar | ge3 if you have a Debian topic go ahead, stop the circus |
| 03:23.33 | Kovecses | im addicted to losing money online : ( |
| 03:23.37 | ge3 | what language |
| 03:23.42 | liable | perl |
| 03:23.45 | ge3 | i see |
| 03:23.52 | ge3 | that bot's stable |
| 03:24.06 | ge3 | imagine 20+ people msgin it at the same time right now |
| 03:24.11 | ge3 | liable: what connection? |
| 03:24.21 | ge3 | or its a server/network bot |
| 03:24.35 | nk2 | Kovecses: anyways.. how do i install debian, from a currently booted linux system? |
| 03:24.36 | liable | ge3: ask dondelelcaro |
| 03:24.40 | nk2 | if it's possible? |
| 03:24.46 | nk2 | is there something to download? |
| 03:24.49 | nk2 | like an installer? |
| 03:24.56 | Kovecses | nk2, do a floppy install? |
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| 03:24.58 | nk2 | or some kind of apt-get thing that'd let me get the rest.. or wget? |
| 03:25.05 | nk2 | Kovecses: i don't have a floppy drive |
| 03:25.06 | nk2 | :( |
| 03:25.08 | liable | nk2: you can just get the installer kernel and initrd if you like |
| 03:25.08 | Kovecses | ahh |
| 03:25.15 | tuv | nk2, you could use bootstrap |
| 03:25.18 | nk2 | liable that'd probably work? |
| 03:25.19 | nk2 | tuv ok |
| 03:25.22 | nk2 | i'll use bootstrap. |
| 03:25.22 | liable | nk2: yes |
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| 03:25.35 | nk2 | do you know where to get bootstrap ? |
| 03:25.37 | nk2 | is it in distfiles? |
| 03:25.39 | nk2 | or where? |
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| 03:26.02 | liable | nk2: its explained in the install guide iirc |
| 03:26.05 | nk2 | hmn |
| 03:26.06 | ootput | hi guys, do any of you use jed? I'd like to know how to specify the loadpath for slang files from my .jedrc |
| 03:26.09 | nk2 | ok i'll re-read it liable |
| 03:26.19 | nk2 | liable so far it looks like the medium the guide followed didnt mention that |
| 03:26.22 | ge3 | !handbook |
| 03:26.26 | ge3 | read that |
| 03:26.28 | ge3 | oops |
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| 03:26.35 | ge3 | no handbook ? |
| 03:26.37 | ge3 | :( |
| 03:26.43 | tuv | there was a guide about installing debian from other distros.. there is a debian package with all necessary scripts.. i don't remember its name now though |
| 03:26.53 | ootput | tuv: knoppix |
| 03:26.56 | ootput | tuv: and debootstrap |
| 03:26.57 | tuv | NO |
| 03:27.13 | ootput | why capslock? |
| 03:27.16 | tuv | ootput, if you're going to burn a cd, then burn d-i |
| 03:27.33 | nk2 | hmn |
| 03:27.36 | jetscreamer | !debtakeover |
| 03:27.36 | tuv | ootput, because i was talking about something totally different.. |
| 03:27.36 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 03:27.38 | nk2 | debootstrap |
| 03:27.39 | nk2 | ok |
| 03:27.42 | nk2 | !where debootstrap |
| 03:27.43 | dpkg | methinks debootstrap is <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html |
| 03:27.43 | tuv | right.. that's it |
| 03:27.44 | ge3 | tuv: qemu? |
| 03:27.50 | tuv | debtakeover |
| 03:27.51 | nk2 | thanks dpkg |
| 03:27.51 | dpkg | pas de quoi, nk2 |
| 03:27.57 | ootput | whatever mate |
| 03:28.04 | tuv | thanks jetscreamer for the help |
| 03:28.09 | dvs | pas de probleme, dpkg |
| 03:28.10 | nk2 | hmn |
| 03:28.14 | nk2 | i have to compile it eh |
| 03:28.21 | nk2 | i wish i could usepackage or -k it |
| 03:28.27 | liable | !info debootstrap |
| 03:28.29 | dpkg | debootstrap: (Bootstrap a basic Debian system), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.3.3 (sid), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 228 kB |
| 03:28.30 | nk2 | ok.. off to packages.debian.org |
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| 03:29.13 | liable | nk2: this is what i was talking about for the installer kernel.. http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s05.html.en |
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| 03:29.38 | nk2 | ok |
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| 03:29.49 | nk2 | liable is that easier than that debootstrap thing? |
| 03:29.55 | nk2 | i kind of want to do the simplest method .. |
| 03:30.08 | liable | nk2: its pretty damn easy |
| 03:30.23 | Kovecses | who wouldnt |
| 03:30.26 | liable | get the images, edit menu.lst and boot.. |
| 03:30.26 | nk2 | ok |
| 03:30.33 | nk2 | the images .. hum |
| 03:30.41 | nk2 | so i'd have to reboot? |
| 03:30.44 | Red_Cloud | Is there a chat devoted to fwbuilder? |
| 03:30.50 | liable | nk2: yes |
| 03:31.17 | nk2 | ok .. |
| 03:31.21 | nk2 | oh |
| 03:31.23 | nk2 | liable |
| 03:31.28 | nk2 | liable: i'm on ppc |
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| 03:32.08 | liable | is that a problem? |
| 03:32.15 | dvs | nk2: you're on pcps?!? |
| 03:32.38 | voltagex | what can I apt-get to backup my own dvds - css'd of course |
| 03:32.39 | dondelelcaro | nk2: you don't need to compile debootstrap; it's a shell script. |
| 03:32.40 | nk2 | no.. just ppc |
| 03:32.46 | nk2 | ok |
| 03:32.53 | nk2 | i'm still looking on the other window |
| 03:33.13 | dondelelcaro | nk2: but you're probably better off just using the netinst installer if you're not familiar with how to use debootstrap and do a manual Debian install |
| 03:33.20 | ge3 | jetscreamer: how do i mess with menuconfig again |
| 03:33.48 | Kovecses | make menuconfig? |
| 03:33.59 | nk2 | hmn |
| 03:34.01 | nk2 | found it |
| 03:34.08 | nk2 | i hope i have rpm |
| 03:34.09 | ge3 | yeah |
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| 03:35.12 | Kovecses | RPM! |
| 03:35.14 | nk2 | ok |
| 03:35.16 | nk2 | it's downloaded |
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| 03:35.22 | nk2 | it ends in udeb |
| 03:35.22 | Kovecses | j/k |
| 03:35.32 | nk2 | am i gonna be able to handle that, without some sort of debian packaging stuff? |
| 03:36.54 | jetscreamer | ge3 yeah make menuconfig |
| 03:37.08 | ge3 | is it safe to use my 2.6.8-3 kernel '.config' for 2.6.16.14 ? |
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| 03:37.15 | jetscreamer | udebs are for the debian installer i believe |
| 03:37.29 | nk2 | ok. |
| 03:37.32 | EdLin | ge3: if you want to do that, run "make oldconfig" |
| 03:37.45 | jetscreamer | you get a LOT of questions that way though |
| 03:37.48 | ge3 | EdLin: but is it safe though? |
| 03:38.08 | ge3 | i just did: cp config-2.6.8-3-686 /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 03:38.13 | ge3 | that's the same way right? |
| 03:38.39 | EdLin | ge3: well, note what jetscreamer said - make oldconfig is probably the safest way, but you get questions |
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| 03:38.55 | dvs | a LOT of questions |
| 03:39.01 | ge3 | lol |
| 03:39.06 | EdLin | dvs: less than "make config" :-) |
| 03:39.17 | dvs | EdLin: just a little |
| 03:39.20 | jtd_ | does anyone here understand sasl authentication with postfix? the wiki guide is just plain wrong. |
| 03:39.22 | nk2 | hum |
| 03:39.24 | ge3 | what about this -->> cp config-2.6.8-3-686 /usr/src/linux/.config |
| 03:39.28 | ge3 | then compile? |
| 03:39.31 | nk2 | darn this is hard to make it work :) |
| 03:39.36 | EdLin | ge3: that's not a good idea |
| 03:39.40 | ge3 | why? |
| 03:39.41 | Kovecses | ge3, why not just go through the menu? |
| 03:39.43 | dvs | ge3: that will ask a lot of questions too |
| 03:39.51 | nk2 | maybe i should just install something easier. |
| 03:40.11 | Kovecses | maybe you should burn the cd |
| 03:40.22 | roncy | hey there! how do you get into x server to config resolutions? |
| 03:40.35 | EdLin | ge3: if you can't figure that out, maybe you shouldn't be compiling your own kernel. |
| 03:40.38 | Kovecses | roncy, xf86 or xorg? |
| 03:40.46 | ge3 | lol, yup, its asking me questions right now |
| 03:40.50 | roncy | xf86 |
| 03:40.51 | dvs | !++EdLin |
| 03:41.30 | Kovecses | roncy, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:42.12 | EdLin | dvs: I didn't know preincrement worked with the bot. :-) |
| 03:42.16 | jetscreamer | ge3: apt-get install a stock 2.6.16-14. and you don't need to cp the config, it's sucked in automagically |
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| 03:42.26 | roncy | thanks, it will only give me 800x600 and man that sucks!:) thanks |
| 03:42.29 | jetscreamer | unless you already have a .config in the source tree |
| 03:42.35 | nk2 | Kovecses: i can't burn the cd, it's the wrong color |
| 03:42.38 | nk2 | it's green |
| 03:42.48 | Kovecses | whats green? |
| 03:43.28 | nk2 | the edge of the cd |
| 03:43.31 | ge3 | jetscreamer: i'm using sarge |
| 03:43.39 | ge3 | jetscreamer: there's no 2.6.16.14 |
| 03:43.41 | nk2 | i want to use sarge. |
| 03:43.45 | nk2 | or at least use slink |
| 03:43.51 | dvs | slink? |
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| 03:44.14 | EdLin | nk2: why do you want to use slink? Are you donating your computer to a museum? |
| 03:44.50 | ge3 | jetscreamer: what if i grab it from 'unstable' ? |
| 03:44.53 | ge3 | what you think? |
| 03:44.54 | EdLin | !slink |
| 03:44.54 | dpkg | Slink (Debian 2.1) was released March 1999. It is no longer supported. Ask me about slink->potato. |
| 03:44.55 | comsa | slink??? |
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| 03:45.08 | inetd_ | set prompt="%{\033[34m%}%n@%m [%~] `if (\$? != 1)echo abc;` " |
| 03:45.09 | nk2 | comsa sorry.. i feel old .. |
| 03:45.11 | jetscreamer | ge3: no bad idea probably |
| 03:45.14 | inetd_ | it isnt working |
| 03:45.15 | nk2 | EdLin: it's a 300 mhz? |
| 03:45.22 | jetscreamer | ge3: why do you need a 2.6.16 kernel |
| 03:45.26 | Kovecses | woody is old school enough |
| 03:45.33 | ge3 | because, its the latest |
| 03:45.36 | ge3 | stable |
| 03:45.42 | ge3 | it matches debian sarge r2 |
| 03:45.42 | dvs | !latest |
| 03:45.43 | dpkg | well, latest is not meaningful. Latest when? Latest in what distribution? Latest stable or latest development? Refer to software by version number - that's what it's for. Refer to debian by its codename or other identifiable feature: 'woody' (3.0), 'sarge' (3.1), 'etch' (testing), 'sid' (unstable). |
| 03:45.43 | voltagex | can I change !voltagex ? I pissed someone off here once, it's bad |
| 03:45.44 | ge3 | :) |
| 03:45.48 | voltagex | forget voltagex |
| 03:45.49 | dvs | oops! |
| 03:45.54 | lordnazgul | nk2 i got sarge running just fine on a 7 yr old 400 |
| 03:45.54 | voltagex | dpkg, forget voltagex |
| 03:45.54 | dpkg | voltagex: i forgot voltagex |
| 03:45.58 | nk2 | Kovecses: i never tried woody.. i last succesfully used debian for more than a week, on debian 2.1r6 |
| 03:46.02 | voltagex | !voltagex |
| 03:46.12 | nk2 | lordnazgul: cool.. i'm still trying to untar debootstrap.udeb :) |
| 03:46.15 | voltagex | cool, it's gone |
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| 03:47.31 | Kovecses | woody was pretty cool |
| 03:47.52 | nk2 | Kovecses: it may've been, but i was using windows 98 at the time :) |
| 03:48.00 | nk2 | and it allowed me to play starcraft.. |
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| 03:48.04 | Kovecses | im sure you were |
| 03:48.07 | nk2 | so :-/.. i had to make a choice |
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| 03:48.44 | Kovecses | windows is still the best for games |
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| 03:49.11 | EdLin | Kovecses: not if you like MUDs or Roguelikes |
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| 03:49.40 | Kovecses | EdLin, i dotn even know what those are... lol\ |
| 03:49.45 | nk2 | EdLin: i want debian so i can use tinyfugue |
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| 03:50.00 | EdLin | !nk++ |
| 03:50.06 | EdLin | !nk2++ |
| 03:50.09 | EdLin | :-) |
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| 03:51.02 | nk2 | ah |
| 03:51.04 | nk2 | it worked |
| 03:51.08 | nk2 | i wasnt using zcat right :) |
| 03:51.15 | Kovecses | tinyfugue?? |
| 03:51.36 | EdLin | !tinyfugue |
| 03:51.36 | dpkg | a mud client with a manpage, triggers, macros, gags, highlights, and lots lots more! get it! zmud sucks! |
| 03:51.50 | Kovecses | what is mud? |
| 03:51.50 | nk2 | the ppc arch is PPC right? |
| 03:52.04 | EdLin | "Multi User Dungeon" |
| 03:52.05 | nk2 | that's the name? |
| 03:52.11 | nk2 | okay.. here goes my debootstrapness |
| 03:52.16 | Kovecses | NERDS! |
| 03:52.27 | killown | have xfce 4.4 beta version in package deb? |
| 03:52.38 | EdLin | Kovecses: what's so nerdy about being creative in an intellegent way? |
| 03:52.45 | Kovecses | only kidding |
| 03:52.50 | odla | killown: you can find them off the xfce.org website...people have packaged it just unofficially |
| 03:53.15 | ge3 | compiling now, if this shit is unsuccessful, ill just use 2.6.8-3 |
| 03:53.17 | ge3 | fuck it |
| 03:53.18 | ge3 | LOL |
| 03:53.20 | ge3 | !fuck |
| 03:53.20 | dpkg | it has been said that fuck is a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav |
| 03:53.36 | nk2 | !what ppc |
| 03:53.37 | dpkg | ppc is probably is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc and/or #debian-ppc |
| 03:53.39 | nk2 | hmn |
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| 03:53.51 | nk2 | what do i use for the arch for debootstrap, to deboostrap ppc arch |
| 03:54.01 | EdLin | !alpha |
| 03:54.01 | dpkg | WANTED: loving home for CPU architecture. Alpha is housebroken, and has had all its shots. Friendly, affectionate and energetic! Contact DEC (oops, Compaq! (oops, HP! (oops, the morgue))) for details. #alpha |
| 03:54.11 | dondelelcaro | nk2: you shouldn't need to specify the arch at all |
| 03:54.22 | nk2 | dondelelcaro sorry i was trying to follow the guide, let me drop the --arch |
| 03:54.23 | dondelelcaro | nk2: you're bootstrapping ppc on a ppc, right? |
| 03:54.24 | EdLin | sigh, if only alpha weren't dead |
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| 03:54.50 | voltagex | a css'd dvd shouldn't be able to be copied with plain old cp should it? |
| 03:54.53 | dondelelcaro | nk2: you may need to specify it; if so it's powerpc |
| 03:55.12 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: they both return an invalid download error thing. |
| 03:55.36 | ge3 | dondelelcaro: what is dpkg's connection? |
| 03:55.41 | nk2 | hmn |
| 03:55.49 | nk2 | maybe i should just wipe the system out first .. |
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| 03:56.09 | dondelelcaro | ge3: it's on multiple OC-3s, actually... [or was at the last time I bothered to check] |
| 03:56.12 | Kovecses | you said wipe |
| 03:56.14 | YouCeyE | how can i fix broken packages? |
| 03:56.33 | dondelelcaro | ge3: but it'd perform similarly on just about any low latency connection... it's only running on a celeron 466. |
| 03:56.40 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: any other ideas? |
| 03:56.53 | dondelelcaro | nk2: what's the error it's giving you? |
| 03:57.00 | YouCeyE | i had nvidia-glx (testing) and it worked fine. I tried to upgrade it to unstable and it seems to be broken |
| 03:57.01 | nk2 | ah |
| 03:57.03 | nk2 | found it |
| 03:57.04 | YouCeyE | now i cant go back |
| 03:57.12 | nk2 | all i had to do was take the us.debian.org out , and replace it with debian.org |
| 03:57.16 | nk2 | and now it's debootstrapping. |
| 03:57.34 | nk2 | i wonder how to clean out the non debian system crud once i have a shiny silver debian system. |
| 03:57.39 | YouCeyE | it says The following packages have unmet dependencies nvidia-glx: Depends: xserver-common (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed Broken packages |
| 03:57.57 | nk2 | hmn |
| 03:57.59 | nk2 | one error |
| 03:58.03 | cheal | YouCeyE: why did you try to upgrade it to unstable? |
| 03:58.04 | nk2 | it said it couldnt download adduser |
| 03:58.05 | Kovecses | nk2, i was wondering that too |
| 03:58.07 | nk2 | is that important? |
| 03:58.13 | Kovecses | pretty important |
| 03:58.14 | PuffBlunt | GRRR, I am trying to get a VIA laptop sound card on Xandros... and its not working.. anyone have any ideas? |
| 03:58.16 | YouCeyE | cheal, i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.16 |
| 03:58.24 | nk2 | Kovecses: on the last distro it was easy, i just had to type ' gaze search alien ' |
| 03:58.29 | nk2 | and then rm .. whatever |
| 03:58.32 | YouCeyE | and nvidia driver was available for unstable |
| 03:59.05 | cheal | YouCeyE: then, why did you upgrade your kernel to 2.6.16? |
| 03:59.10 | YouCeyE | nv works fine.. nvidia gives all sorts of problems |
| 03:59.29 | dondelelcaro | nk2: hrm... sounds like that mirror is bad. try http://debian.usc.edu |
| 03:59.35 | nk2 | dondelel ok one sec. |
| 03:59.43 | dondelelcaro | nk2: you're bootstraping sarge, right? |
| 04:00.02 | nk2 | still no adduser |
| 04:00.11 | nk2 | dondelelcaro yes.. sarge \ |
| 04:00.34 | nk2 | that's the only one failing is adduser :/ |
| 04:00.53 | Kovecses | can he apt that later? |
| 04:01.02 | dondelelcaro | Kovecses: it's essential |
| 04:01.06 | Kovecses | ahh |
| 04:01.12 | Kovecses | thought so |
| 04:01.12 | nk2 | can i use the adduser from the old system ? |
| 04:01.22 | dondelelcaro | nk2: no... what's the exact error it's giving you? |
| 04:01.48 | nk2 | E: Couldn't download adduser |
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| 04:02.00 | nk2 | i think the E may stand for Error? |
| 04:02.01 | dondelelcaro | nk2: even using a different mirror? |
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| 04:02.20 | nk2 | dondelelcaro using debian.org and using that debian.usc.edu |
| 04:02.24 | dondelelcaro | nk2: try running it with the --verbose flag |
| 04:02.25 | nk2 | what's another mirror? |
| 04:02.27 | nk2 | oh |
| 04:02.40 | dondelelcaro | nk2: debian.usc.edu is a different mirror; what's the exact command that you're running? |
| 04:02.55 | nk2 | no such script -v |
| 04:03.04 | Kovecses | -- |
| 04:03.34 | nk2 | . /usr/sbin/debootstrap sarge \ /mnt/debinst http://http.debian.usc.edu/debian |
| 04:04.09 | dondelelcaro | nk2: it should be /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch powerpc sarge /mnt/debinst http://debian.usc.edu/ |
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| 04:05.16 | nk2 | ok. |
| 04:05.26 | nk2 | a minute ago someone said to try it without --arch |
| 04:05.30 | nk2 | i'll add that back in |
| 04:05.34 | feltz | Is there some sort of plugin or library available for XMMS or amaroK to play .umx files? (Unreal, UT, Deus Ex, etc. music format) |
| 04:05.43 | RedBlades | Hi |
| 04:05.55 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: ok i just used it with that.. |
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| 04:06.03 | dondelelcaro | nk2: the critical part is that your URL was wrong |
| 04:06.20 | RedBlades | I'm using Mandriva, but I'm planning to be back on Debian by the end of the day! |
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| 04:06.28 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: if i don't add /debian at the end |
| 04:06.29 | Kovecses | woot |
| 04:06.36 | nk2 | it gives me an invalid releases message again |
| 04:06.36 | RedBlades | woot indeed. |
| 04:06.47 | dondelelcaro | nk2: that mirror doesn't use /debian |
| 04:06.56 | Dwonis | feltz: Google seems to suggest that the modplug plugin will play them |
| 04:07.09 | dondelelcaro | nk2: run it like this: /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch powerpc sarge /mnt/debinst http://debian.usc.edu/ |
| 04:07.13 | dondelelcaro | nk2: run it like this: /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch powerpc --verbose sarge /mnt/debinst http://debian.usc.edu/ |
| 04:07.14 | RedBlades | I'm going to do a base install, but I was wonder, what do I do to just install Gnome? |
| 04:07.16 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: well.. i just ran it like that.. |
| 04:07.21 | RedBlades | (and X-Windows) |
| 04:07.22 | nk2 | let me try the verbose |
| 04:07.47 | atrus | i've got a really old apple joystick.. "joystick iie" :). what are the odds of me getting this to work under linux? |
| 04:07.57 | nk2 | hey cool |
| 04:08.01 | Kovecses | RedBlades, apt-get install gnome xserver-xfree86 x-windowsystem gdm |
| 04:08.08 | RedBlades | thanks |
| 04:08.10 | nk2 | the --verbose shows it downloading some kind of plain text thing from the invalid distro's apps list |
| 04:08.12 | jetscreamer | atrus: apt-get install joystick |
| 04:08.44 | Dwonis | feltz: if that's true, you probably want the xmms-modplug package |
| 04:08.47 | RedBlades | Kovecses: are you certain? |
| 04:08.54 | jetscreamer | atrus: there are also kernel modules for joysticks |
| 04:08.54 | dondelelcaro | nk2: can you use the paster bot to paste the full output? |
| 04:09.01 | nk2 | how? |
| 04:09.08 | dondelelcaro | !tell nk2 -about paste |
| 04:09.21 | nk2 | !tell nk2 -about paste |
| 04:09.22 | Kovecses | RedBlades, not really |
| 04:09.36 | atrus | jetscreamer: inputattach(1) doesn't seem to mention it, and i couldn't find a kernel module for it. it is a serial-looking connector |
| 04:09.55 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: that doesn't do anything to explain to me how to cut and paste from a seperate console? |
| 04:10.04 | killown | have xfce 4.4 beta version in package deb? |
| 04:10.10 | jetscreamer | atrus: there is also a gameport module (that iirc doesn't get loaded much) |
| 04:10.17 | dondelelcaro | nk2: kick the output to a file, and then paste the resultant file... |
| 04:10.18 | odla | killown: ffs i just told you 10 minutes ago |
| 04:10.26 | nk2 | kick output .. to a file. |
| 04:10.30 | killown | odla sorry |
| 04:10.35 | jetscreamer | > file.txt |
| 04:10.35 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: ok, here's the thing, i don't know console well at all! |
| 04:10.41 | atrus | jetscreamer: heh. i'm already using gameport for my playstation controller :) |
| 04:10.43 | killown | give me the link? |
| 04:10.43 | odla | killown: do you want me to find you the link? |
| 04:10.45 | Red_Cloud | dondelelcaro, I was able to create barnyard boot start script, create symbolic links, appropriate run level and stop level. So I now have snort, mysql, barnyard, and BASE operating correctly. Thanks for all of your help. |
| 04:10.46 | odla | hang on |
| 04:10.47 | dondelelcaro | /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch powerpc --verbose sarge /mnt/debinst http://debian.usc.edu/ > foofile 2>&1; then put foofile into the paste site. |
| 04:10.51 | nk2 | dondelelcaro: would i use cat for that? |
| 04:10.53 | nk2 | oh. |
| 04:10.54 | atrus | jetscreamer: gamecon rather |
| 04:10.55 | nk2 | ok. |
| 04:10.55 | dondelelcaro | Red_Cloud: cool |
| 04:11.01 | nk2 | i'd use that echo thing |
| 04:11.04 | nk2 | and echo it into a file? |
| 04:11.08 | nk2 | ok.. so run it again? |
| 04:11.15 | jetscreamer | atrus: that's about all i know about joysticks and linux :( |
| 04:11.27 | dondelelcaro | nk2: right, that'll store all the output in foofile, then either paste the file into #flood, or paste it on channels.debian.net/paste |
| 04:11.34 | nk2 | man |
| 04:11.44 | nk2 | it's still downloading from the first time .. |
| 04:11.46 | atrus | jetscreamer: heh, ok, thanks anyways. it looks like inputattach from the joystick package might be related to the solution, if one exists anyways :) |
| 04:12.07 | ge3 | chmod 777 / |
| 04:12.10 | ge3 | ???????????/// |
| 04:12.14 | killown | i dont find link the xfce 4.4 beta package debian |
| 04:12.14 | nk2 | sigh ok, bbiab. |
| 04:12.30 | jetscreamer | ge3: what? |
| 04:12.40 | jetscreamer | no don't do that |
| 04:12.55 | odla | killown: http://xfce-diary.blogspot.com/2006/04/major-changes-in-xfce-44beta1.html < - scroll down about 4/5 of the way look for a comment by mariodebian |
| 04:12.58 | ge3 | ok, after i installed my kernel, is it safe to just "make-kpkg" ? |
| 04:13.09 | killown | oddi thanks friend |
| 04:13.13 | ge3 | ok, after i installed my kernel, is it safe to just "make-kpkg clean" ? |
| 04:13.18 | fas3r | i ahve a problem .. i want to generate dsa key (1024) but it's say i don't have any more entropy ... but what's i need ? |
| 04:13.26 | odla | killown: np |
| 04:13.31 | jetscreamer | ge3: if you don't need the headers to compile against, yes |
| 04:13.48 | ge3 | jetscreamer: i mean, i have the .deb file |
| 04:13.52 | odla | killown: he tells you how to install it to on that page |
| 04:14.10 | jetscreamer | ge3: having the kernel installed is not having the headers to compile against |
| 04:14.18 | inetd_ | can u have dynamic shell prompts in tcsh? |
| 04:14.23 | jetscreamer | ge3: but what did you use for a command to build the kernel |
| 04:14.36 | ge3 | jetscreamer: let's say i have the kernel installed, do i still need the headers? |
| 04:14.39 | killown | ahhhh |
| 04:14.43 | ge3 | and the source? |
| 04:14.44 | fas3r | nobody have solution for me :s .... ? |
| 04:14.46 | killown | no binary package |
| 04:14.50 | jetscreamer | ge3: if you want to compile against the headers |
| 04:15.02 | ge3 | jetscreamer: what you mean? |
| 04:15.12 | odla | killown: deb http://soleup.eup.uva.es/xfce4.4/ ./ <- add to sources.list |
| 04:15.20 | jetscreamer | make-kpkg buildpackage or kernel_image or what |
| 04:15.23 | liable | fas3r: try moving your mouse around when its generating it |
| 04:15.32 | fas3r | oki |
| 04:15.36 | odla | killown: then 'apt-get install xfce4-all' (for binaries) |
| 04:15.38 | fas3r | but i use ssh connection :s |
| 04:15.43 | liable | heh |
| 04:15.47 | killown | thanks |
| 04:15.56 | liable | ok, mash the keyboard |
| 04:15.56 | odla | killown: np |
| 04:16.19 | odla | killown: you might need to specify it as unstable or testing...not sure |
| 04:16.37 | jetscreamer | time to burn my first dual layer dvd... hope i don't make a coaster out of this expensive pos |
| 04:16.46 | killown | odla test is the best? |
| 04:16.52 | fas3r | liable, if i execute comand it's good ? |
| 04:16.57 | odla | killown: it looks like they are the same to me |
| 04:17.11 | odla | killown: check out http://soleup.eup.uva.es/xfce4.4 |
| 04:17.24 | odla | killown: but odds are testing is better if you're running testing :) |
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| 04:17.53 | liable | fas3r: sec, lemme have a look |
| 04:17.55 | zinx | jetscreamer: At least it's not Blu-Ray. |
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| 04:18.04 | killown | odla ok |
| 04:18.07 | fas3r | liable, oki thank a lot ^^ |
| 04:18.15 | odla | killown: good luck |
| 04:18.24 | Kovecses | xfce is cool |
| 04:18.26 | killown | thank you |
| 04:18.27 | Kovecses | great themes |
| 04:19.00 | Kovecses | how does xubuntu make xfce look like gnome? |
| 04:19.26 | odla | Kovecses: ask ubuntu? |
| 04:19.35 | Kovecses | good point |
| 04:19.40 | odla | Kovecses: or even better #xubuntu |
| 04:20.33 | odla | Kovecses: the question is even better - why does xubuntu want to make xfce look like gnome? |
| 04:20.50 | Kovecses | odla is very wise |
| 04:21.15 | odla | no i mean the point of different DE is to get a variety right? |
| 04:21.32 | Kovecses | very true |
| 04:21.40 | odla | imho of course |
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| 04:22.10 | Asche | hi |
| 04:22.12 | Asche | i need some help with the configuration of vsftpd |
| 04:22.13 | RedBlades | Is anyone sure? |
| 04:22.15 | Kovecses | odla, what de do you use? |
| 04:22.35 | jetscreamer | zinx: blu-ray? |
| 04:23.05 | Kovecses | !google |
| 04:23.05 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, google is a search engine owned by Google Inc. whose mission statement is to "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." The largest search engine on the web, Google receives over 200 million queries each day through its various services. It's website can be found at http://www.google.com |
| 04:23.14 | Asche | can anyone help me please ? |
| 04:23.45 | jetscreamer | !tell Asche -about ask |
| 04:24.17 | jetscreamer | http://www.blu-ray.com/info/ |
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| 04:25.37 | mythica | Sorry but does anyone know how i would make my /dev/dsp1 the default sound card? |
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| 04:26.22 | liable | fas3r: ok, just try getting the machine to do something while it generates the key. |
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| 04:27.51 | fas3r | liable, just i wait ? |
| 04:29.01 | liable | fas3r: just try mashing the keyboard. see if it works. |
| 04:29.09 | fas3r | oki |
| 04:29.21 | fas3r | i have launch 4 top -d 0 |
| 04:29.23 | Asche | jetscreamer can i quote you ? |
| 04:29.40 | mythica | could someone here spare 1 minute of their time? |
| 04:29.40 | mythica | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146505 |
| 04:29.51 | mythica | I dont understand exactly ahat i need to set where |
| 04:30.08 | Kovecses | #ubuntu |
| 04:30.23 | liable | mythica: you will prolly get better help in #ubuntu |
| 04:30.37 | mythica | k |
| 04:30.39 | mythica | ta |
| 04:30.47 | liable | np |
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| 04:31.18 | Asche | liable Do yo know about vsftpd ? |
| 04:31.27 | liable | Asche: sorry, nope |
| 04:31.47 | Asche | ok |
| 04:32.07 | epictetus | hey if I screwed up my zoneinfo stuff (/usr/share/zoneinfo/US/ is empty) what's the best way to fix it? |
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| 04:32.22 | Kovecses | tzconfig |
| 04:32.29 | epictetus | apt-get says zoneinfo is already installed, do i need to manually dl the package and install it with dpkg? |
| 04:33.11 | epictetus | Kovecses: tzconfig just sets a symlink to a file that is supposed to be in that directory I think |
| 04:33.39 | liable | epictetus: did you delete the files by hand or something? |
| 04:34.22 | epictetus | No I forgot i was using etch and accidentally changed my apt sources to sarge |
| 04:34.40 | Epilog | is I insert a Bcc header in a mail, is it supposed to appear in the mail? |
| 04:34.42 | epictetus | and installed a bunch of packages from sarge .. and in repairing them back to etch from sarge that got screwed up somehow |
| 04:34.54 | Epilog | or is the MTA responsability to remove it? |
| 04:36.19 | jetscreamer | !reinstall |
| 04:36.19 | dpkg | i heard reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 04:36.26 | jetscreamer | try the first |
| 04:36.28 | liable | fas3r: any luck? |
| 04:36.33 | epictetus | niice |
| 04:36.36 | fas3r | liable |
| 04:36.40 | fas3r | i have find ^^ |
| 04:36.53 | epictetus | i never knew about that |
| 04:36.56 | liable | huh? |
| 04:37.02 | jetscreamer | but |
| 04:37.07 | jetscreamer | might not do the conffiles |
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| 04:37.40 | jetscreamer | you could work in --force-conffiles or so i think but it's a hack |
| 04:37.41 | fas3r | i have launch 4 top -d 0 and i have make a script with while do with find / -iname "*" |
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| 04:38.09 | liable | fas3r: good |
| 04:38.11 | epictetus | nice i never knew about --reinstall |
| 04:38.13 | epictetus | that is awesome |
| 04:38.19 | jetscreamer | man dpkg and man apt to figure out how to pass those dpkg type commands to apt |
| 04:38.39 | epictetus | awesome! fixed |
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| 04:41.50 | Kovecses | poop |
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| 04:42.58 | jetscreamer | big business: the less money you have, the higher our profit on each piece. |
| 04:43.45 | jetscreamer | s/money/money\/quantity\ you\ need\ / |
| 04:43.53 | jetscreamer | oops |
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| 04:45.48 | jchurchill | Hello all. I just upgraded to the xorg 7 packages (in sid), and now my gtk1 apps are no longer able to display any text -- all the menus, widgets, etc. are text-less. |
| 04:45.59 | jchurchill | I assume it's a font config / font server problem. |
| 04:46.12 | jchurchill | Anybody know what I can do to fix it? |
| 04:46.26 | jchurchill | Just GTK 1.* apps, btw. |
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| 04:47.10 | jetscreamer | iirc it was conflicting with xtt but i don't know if it still is |
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| 04:47.28 | nitrogen | Hi. I'm installing debian on my personal server. I'm used to RPM and Gentoo, so I'm having a bit of trouble. What package is used for lvm management with kernel 2.6, and is there a nice ncurses UI for setting it up? |
| 04:48.13 | nitrogen | I've installed lvm2 and lvm-common, but I get "No program "vgdisplay" found for your current version of LVM |
| 04:48.13 | nitrogen | " |
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| 04:49.13 | Dwonis | jchurchill: Didn't you get the memo? Text is deprecated in X11R7. |
| 04:49.25 | jchurchill | lol |
| 04:49.29 | jchurchill | sorry I missed that. |
| 04:49.41 | Azar | nitrogen: what is lvm? |
| 04:49.54 | Dwonis | !tell Azar about lvm |
| 04:50.06 | Azar | :) thanks Dwonis |
| 04:50.32 | Dwonis | Azar: any time ;) |
| 04:51.39 | Azar | tarzeau |
| 04:51.43 | Dwonis | jchurchill: No idea about your problem... though I think the font paths changed; you might want to look at that... This is why I'm waiting for Xorg7 to enter etch. |
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| 04:51.48 | jazzanova | hi |
| 04:52.06 | Dwonis | !xorg7 |
| 04:52.06 | dpkg | Find some solutions at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 in order to fix problems from 6.9 to 7 |
| 04:52.09 | Dwonis | jchurchill: did you try that ^^ |
| 04:52.27 | jchurchill | Dwonis: OK, thanks. I'll take a look at that. |
| 04:52.36 | jchurchill | Dwonis: I appreciate it. |
| 04:52.47 | cshaman | Ahoy. |
| 04:52.48 | Dwonis | jchurchill: good luck |
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| 04:53.33 | cshaman | Recently I tried removing the gdm package so I could use the TTY login instead. The package removed with no problem except that when I ran startx from TTY mode, I couldn't boot up my window manager and recieved errors from X |
| 04:53.44 | cshaman | Is this a common problem? |
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| 04:55.05 | Azar | and what the errors say? |
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| 04:55.50 | nitrogen | !tell nitrogen about lvm |
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| 04:56.41 | [bsd] | hi, friends! |
| 04:56.52 | jetscreamer | !greet [bsd] |
| 04:56.52 | dpkg | Tag, [bsd] |
| 04:57.01 | Dwonis | !tell dpkg about de |
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| 04:58.40 | nitrogen | cshaman, you probably don't need to remove gdb to use TTY login. you can just change your default runlevel, or remove the display manager from the startup links |
| 04:59.14 | jetscreamer | that's gdm not gdb btw |
| 04:59.18 | nitrogen | cshaman, the first option is in /etc/inittab, the second is running update-rc.d |
| 04:59.30 | nitrogen | jetscreamer, thanks, gdm |
| 04:59.34 | Dwonis | cshaman: in any case, removing gdm shouldn't break anything |
| 04:59.37 | jetscreamer | the best option is what i do though |
| 04:59.41 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 04:59.58 | Dwonis | cshaman: I've had lots of machines that didn't even _have_ gdm, and startx worked fine |
| 05:00.08 | RedBlades | !gdm |
| 05:00.09 | dpkg | i heard gdm is the Gnome Display Manager. A gnome based display manager based on xdm, but with no original xdm code. Written with looks (and security) in mind.. see gdm fix, or uses ~/.gnomerc instead of ~/.xsession, or kicks ass!, or (a word that You can confuse with "gpm", gpm is that thingy to have mouse cursor in text console) |
| 05:00.36 | RedBlades | !gpm |
| 05:00.36 | nitrogen | cshaman, look through /etc/X11 - I don't recall which files, but you'll learn a lot about how X starts |
| 05:00.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, gpm is if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 05:00.43 | RedBlades | !X |
| 05:00.50 | jetscreamer | apt-get install x-window-system will probably fix it, but you would get xdm. you could always uninstall it or disable it though. however this is a shotgun approach. |
| 05:01.05 | Dwonis | cshaman: what sort of errors do you get? |
| 05:01.12 | cshaman | It's installed again, and works fine. |
| 05:01.27 | cshaman | But I would rather login via TTY and startx manually when I want it. |
| 05:01.41 | [bsd] | please recommend some good local caching software for apt-get, apt-move sucks |
| 05:01.46 | jetscreamer | cshaman: backup /etc/X11/default-display-manager, then make it empty. |
| 05:01.49 | nitrogen | cshaman, update-rc.d -f gdm remove |
| 05:01.50 | Dwonis | [bsd]: approx |
| 05:02.08 | nitrogen | cshaman, perhaps? |
| 05:02.25 | cshaman | I will try it. |
| 05:02.29 | atrus | uhm. why does ftp.ca.debian.org point to the u of Minnesota? :) |
| 05:02.32 | nitrogen | ... so nobody can tell me about an ncurses lvm tool? |
| 05:02.35 | Dwonis | nitrogen: That's totally unnecessary |
| 05:03.03 | EdLin | atrus: because Canada isn't a real country anyway |
| 05:03.18 | Dwonis | hah |
| 05:03.22 | atrus | ooh |
| 05:03.23 | nitrogen | Dwonis, what's the best option? I'm still like a man with a flashlight when I want a floodlight when it comes to debian. |
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| 05:04.44 | Dwonis | nitrogen: ok, first, what you'll want to do is run some console-based IRC client. |
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| 05:05.05 | Dwonis | nitrogen: If X gets hosed, you'll want some way of getting back here :) |
| 05:05.10 | Dwonis | nitrogen: I suggest you install irssi |
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| 05:05.23 | EdLin | aka irssi-text |
| 05:05.24 | Azar | nitrogen: learn about aptitude ( or apt-get) thats the mover in Debian, replaces RPM |
| 05:05.24 | nitrogen | Dwonis, my debian machine is already in console mode. I'm running xchat on my gentoo machine, though I used irssi back in the day. I'm using ssh to control debian. |
| 05:05.43 | Dwonis | nitrogen: ok, perfect |
| 05:05.45 | nitrogen | Azar, thanks, though I'm familiar with package management. just not which packages I actually want. |
| 05:06.07 | Dwonis | nitrogen: wait... you're not cshaman... what was your problem? |
| 05:06.07 | Azar | nitrogen: a short intro: http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=2&tid=130 |
| 05:06.14 | nitrogen | Dwonis, LVM |
| 05:06.21 | Dwonis | nitrogen: oh... no idea :) |
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| 05:06.32 | Azar | nitrogen: Debian has 3 versions, right? stable, testing and sid: each has its own package repository |
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| 05:07.05 | jetscreamer | omg the dual layer finally finished it's rapid 2.5x writing |
| 05:07.11 | Dwonis | nitrogen: have you checked the LVM HOWTO ? |
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| 05:07.48 | Azar | nitrogen: here are the packages to look up to (or use apt-cache search <package>) and you can apt any you see interesting: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 05:08.17 | nitrogen | Dwonis, yeah, I'm figuring it out, but I was just wondering if there was an ncurses tool provided by debian. Also, I had to add /lib/lvm-default to my PATH, as the lvm progs in /sbin say they can't find binaries for my version of lvm |
| 05:09.37 | nitrogen | hmm. perhaps a different question: what is the command I run to redisplay the menu that the debian installer shows when it's done? |
| 05:09.38 | n0t_flan | nitrogen, aptitude can be used as a curses interface to your local apt cache. It can also accept most of the command line arguments of the other apt tools. |
| 05:09.58 | Azar | hmmm I wonder why they did not remove the Non-US reference from that page |
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| 05:10.14 | n0t_flan | aptitude; aptitude search <package name fragment>; aptitude install <packages...> |
| 05:10.31 | Azar | n0t_flan: apt-cache search |
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| 05:10.56 | n0t_flan | Azar, I know, but it's easier to use one utility. |
| 05:10.57 | nitrogen | n0t_flan, Azar, thanks. I was trying to just go into aptitude and use the "/" search to find things, but that was only searching package names, not descriptions |
| 05:10.58 | Dwonis | nitrogen: In general, I don't think you can. However, you could try "dpkg-reconfigure lvm2" or "dpkg-reconfigure lvm-common" or whatever package it is that you're trying to reconfigure |
| 05:11.11 | Kuttie | hiya all |
| 05:11.31 | nitrogen | Dwonis, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure lvm2, as well as f="lvm-common lvm2" apt-get remove $f; apt-get install $f |
| 05:11.45 | Azar | n0t_flan: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages << descriptions |
| 05:11.52 | n0t_flan | nitrogen, there's also dselect, but it's a horrible, evil tool that I'd rather not discuss. |
| 05:11.56 | Dwonis | nitrogen: you'd need the --purge option to remove for it to actually ask you the questions again, I think |
| 05:12.18 | nitrogen | Dwonis, I'm not having trouble using the command line, but I'd like to find a tool that's like the partition tool that the debian installation CD has. |
| 05:12.24 | dondelelcaro | awa/y |
| 05:12.27 | nitrogen | Dwonis, I'll try --purge |
| 05:12.35 | Azar | nitrogen: if you find it in the testing or unstable repository you could use backports to sarge |
| 05:12.39 | n0t_flan | Azar, I've been using Debian for the better part of six years. I'm familiar with the resources provided by the team. |
| 05:12.42 | nitrogen | Azar, I'm on testing |
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| 05:13.14 | Azar | nitrogen: search on the unstable repository on that link and if you find it use backports |
| 05:13.39 | Azar | n0t_flan: sorry I did not intended to offend |
| 05:14.05 | n0t_flan | No offense taken. I just wanted to state my position. :) |
| 05:14.23 | Azar | n0t_flan: I can't say that for myself I am just a newbie |
| 05:15.57 | Dwonis | !dselect vs aptitude |
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| 05:16.24 | Azar | :( amphetamine does not work for me |
| 05:17.16 | Dwonis | Azar: drugs are bad for you ;) |
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| 05:17.41 | n0t_flan | Does the 'vs' trigger work with any two tokens? |
| 05:17.51 | Dwonis | n0t_flan: not as far as I know |
| 05:18.07 | n0t_flan | Hmm... |
| 05:18.13 | n0t_flan | Any penalty for testing it? |
| 05:18.37 | nitrogen | !etch vs sid |
| 05:18.44 | n0t_flan | !token[0] vs token[1] |
| 05:18.48 | n0t_flan | :( |
| 05:18.53 | nitrogen | !dpkg vs rpm |
| 05:19.06 | nitrogen | hmm... |
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| 05:21.00 | Dwonis | !dpkg vs rpm |
| 05:21.54 | Dwonis | !dpkg vs rpm |
| 05:22.26 | Azar | !rpm vs dpkg |
| 05:22.43 | Dwonis | !rpm vs dpkg |
| 05:22.51 | Azar | well I will install enigma |
| 05:22.58 | n0t_flan | emerge -c dpkg |
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| 05:27.00 | jroes | heheh, silly australians |
| 05:27.19 | zachhale | anyone have any experience configuring xfree for multiple monitors? |
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| 05:32.05 | dondelelcaro | zerodni: yes... |
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| 05:33.28 | Ugly_Duck | what other apps are out there like hotkeys? |
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| 05:34.17 | Chris-Top | i installed vhcs and i see like 6 of the same thing, like 6apach's,4pma,etc |
| 05:34.25 | Chris-Top | i installed vhcs and i see like 6 of the same thing, like 6apach's,4pma,etc |
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| 05:39.49 | Noboru | In vi, how to delete the one line ? |
| 05:39.55 | Dwonis | Noboru: dd |
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| 05:40.12 | Noboru | Dwonis, thanks :) |
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| 05:43.58 | odla | anyone using deskbar-applet know how to get it to do a google search |
| 05:44.09 | odla | i know you can select it from preferences in ubuntu |
| 05:44.30 | odla | just curious if that's a ubuntu thing mayber or a newer deskbar-applet implementation |
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| 05:49.36 | prudhvi | !mplayer |
| 05:49.37 | dpkg | mplayer is, like, not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
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| 05:52.08 | Azar | icarusrj: let me help you, type: /join #debian-br |
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| 05:56.08 | fas3r | nobody know where it's possible i see if ssl is include in apache 2 ? |
| 05:56.46 | streuner | fas3r: download debian source and look into debian/rules |
| 05:57.23 | fas3r | oki |
| 05:57.25 | streuner | fas3r: it should be enough to look at the depends... |
| 05:57.44 | fas3r | because with apt-cache search i don't find apache2 ssl .. |
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| 06:03.32 | fosgum | hi, lost the PC speaker sound after re-compiling kernel. can't seem to find the option in the kernel config. can anyone tell me? |
| 06:05.25 | fosgum | anyone out there? |
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| 06:06.08 | Noboru | I assume make a chroot/jail in linux is not really necessary ? cuz it has never worked for me in the meanwile the docs about it are rare,the conclusion is ->a waste of time ... ? |
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| 06:06.36 | laney_ | bind chroots. |
| 06:06.50 | laney_ | what do you need to know Noboru |
| 06:06.53 | laney_ | ? |
| 06:07.07 | laney_ | fosgum the beep-boop internal speaker or your speakers for playing music? |
| 06:07.15 | Noboru | laney_, i want apache and php and mysql run in chroot |
| 06:07.36 | Noboru | laney_, i configured apache and php by using libapache2-chroot mod |
| 06:07.52 | Noboru | but after that, mysql refuses connecting |
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| 06:08.26 | laney_ | I've never done it Noboru, but you might look at BIND for ideas how if you're stuck. |
| 06:08.38 | Noboru | ok |
| 06:09.05 | biffhero | my thinkpad T41p is locking up with KDE/kdm, but 'xinit -- :1', and then starting fvwm works without a lockup. |
| 06:09.33 | Noboru | laney_, i mean,maybe not everything can be run in chroot ,if it wasn't like that,since chroot is considered more security then why there didnt have enough docs about the HOWTO of it in single detailed |
| 06:10.02 | peritus | Noboru: if apache/php is chroot:ed and you are trying to connect to mysql "localhost", it will try to connect to a socket on the disk, outside the chroot. use a real interface instead of localhost |
| 06:10.27 | peritus | s/disk/filesystem outside chroot/ |
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| 06:10.58 | HugLeo | I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. It would be incompatibility with kernel? |
| 06:11.00 | Noboru | peritus, The apache2 and php5 are working fine this chroot env. however, when i try to connect to mysql it says Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' |
| 06:11.14 | peritus | yeah, exactly |
| 06:11.25 | laney_ | Noboru you need to go over loopback IP rather than disk socket. |
| 06:11.25 | peritus | /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock is the unix-socket outside the chroot |
| 06:11.36 | Noboru | peritus, sorry,but i dont quite get what you are telling me |
| 06:11.53 | Noboru | oh |
| 06:12.00 | peritus | Noboru: when you tell php to connect to "localhost", it wont. it will try to open /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock instead |
| 06:12.20 | laney_ | Configure MySQL for network access, then only allow connections from 127.0.0.1 or whatever, and configure your scripts/web apps to connect like that too. |
| 06:12.51 | Noboru | a real interface ? by default its 127.0.0.1 in my.cnf |
| 06:13.41 | Noboru | Right now it is bind-address = 127.0.0.1 |
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| 06:13.57 | laney_ | if you're connecting to /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock you're not going over IP. |
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| 06:14.15 | HugLeo | I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. It would be incompatibility with kernel? |
| 06:14.37 | Noboru | hmm |
| 06:14.50 | Noboru | will 192.168.xx.xx work ? |
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| 06:16.26 | rohan | hi all |
| 06:16.38 | rohan | what is the pkg name for the audiocd:/ kioslave, in debian ? |
| 06:16.38 | laney_ | Any IP address will. Loopback is better because it's easier to make secure. |
| 06:16.39 | wlnet | what could have gone wrong if your system does not beep? |
| 06:16.50 | laney_ | 127/8 |
| 06:17.39 | cahoot | wlnet: no pcspkr loaded? |
| 06:18.07 | liable | if someone has xorg7 and neverball, does neverball run ok? |
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| 06:18.37 | Noboru | laney_, Mysql fails to connect means chroot is working in a sense ? |
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| 06:19.10 | wlnet | cahoot: pcspkr a kernel module or a package? |
| 06:19.12 | epictetus | HugLeo: Generally when modem connections fail after a while I blame the telephone lines (noise, call waiting, etc) |
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| 06:19.24 | cahoot | wlnet: kernel module |
| 06:19.28 | zachhale | is there anyone here who would be able to help me with bus identifiers for setting up multiple monitors |
| 06:19.44 | epictetus | HugLeo: you can also try things like adjusting the modem's init string or lowering the connection speed to 28800 or something |
| 06:19.57 | wlnet | cahoot: which kernel config option to check? |
| 06:20.22 | laney_ | Noboru, yup. |
| 06:20.27 | HugLeo | I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. In kernel 2.4x functioned but not in kernel 2,6 :(. How I can configure the modem so that the InterNet does not fall more? |
| 06:20.44 | Noboru | laney_, ok,let me set it up at 192.168.xx.xx ,brb |
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| 06:21.15 | cahoot | wlnet: CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR |
| 06:21.33 | wlnet | cahoot: thks a lot. |
| 06:22.00 | cahoot | wlnet: you know you could search using '/' in menuconfig |
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| 06:22.28 | wlnet | cahoot: i tend to use xconfig. |
| 06:22.47 | stray_ | zachhale, you can try: lspci |grep VGA |
| 06:23.03 | wlnet | cahoot: doesn't seem to have any search facitlity there. |
| 06:23.36 | cahoot | wlnet: I wouldn't know just tried it once |
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| 06:23.46 | wlnet | ok. |
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| 06:24.08 | rohan | what does that mean ? audiocd:/ kioslave is not there, or it is ? |
| 06:24.11 | HugLeo | I installed the modem hsp56mr using driver smartlink but the connection falls after some time. In kernel 2.4x functioned but not in kernel 2,6 :(. How I can configure the modem so that the InterNet does not fall more? |
| 06:24.11 | rohan | An error occurred while loading audiocd:/: |
| 06:24.13 | rohan | Could not read . |
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| 06:35.30 | sabin | i need help configuring my remote (one of those RF remotes that comes with an ATI AIW).... now the thing is the remote works, and I'm not sure what makes it work so I don't know how to configure the buttons |
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| 06:36.26 | sabin | all i know is the ati_remote module is loaded and i can move the mouse cursor in x using the remote |
| 06:36.28 | dorel__ | ive installed with alien the rpm of libkmid, then on a package im installing im getting this error while runing make "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkmid" - any ideas how do i go around this? |
| 06:36.42 | sabin | and i knwo that there's no ati_remote manpage |
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| 06:57.22 | Dwonis | dorel__: wouldn't you also need a -dev package? |
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| 07:01.04 | Noboru | I don't understand that why after i removed mysql-server php5-mysql even a reboot but now mysql is still running |
| 07:02.03 | lkem | what's the plugin for xmms so you can play video with it? |
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| 07:02.27 | Dwonis | Noboru: mysql-server-5.0 ? |
| 07:02.52 | streuner | Ike: apt-cache search xmms plugin? |
| 07:02.52 | Dwonis | Noboru: or possibly mysql-server-4.1 |
| 07:03.02 | streuner | lkem: ^^^^ |
| 07:03.09 | lkem | xmms-xmmplayer |
| 07:03.13 | lkem | found it |
| 07:03.21 | Noboru | Dwonis, it is 5.0 |
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| 07:03.43 | Dwonis | Noboru: ok, then you need to remove mysql-server-5.0 |
| 07:03.44 | Noboru | oh,thinking i should uninstall mysql-server-50 |
| 07:03.49 | Noboru | I see,thanks |
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| 07:04.47 | freelancer | Hey peoples:) |
| 07:05.42 | Dwonis | !greet freelancer |
| 07:05.42 | dpkg | Gr33tz, freelancer |
| 07:05.52 | freelancer | o/ |
| 07:06.51 | freelancer | that conflict my debian box has been fixed:} |
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| 07:13.56 | hanasaki | i have SiS SI7012 chipset and alsa finds it fine... esd from gnome says /dev/dsp: No such file or directory |
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| 07:16.11 | streuner | hanasaki: isn't /dev/dsp OSS emulation? |
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| 07:17.01 | valdyn | hanasaki: apt-get install libesd0-alsa |
| 07:17.05 | hanasaki | i dont think so... i never had the oss emulation on .. just upgraded from kernel 2.6.12 to 2.6.16.14 |
| 07:17.11 | streuner | in order to use OSS emulation for ALSA you have to use snd_oss_pcm |
| 07:17.51 | streuner | s/snd_oss_pcm/snd_pcm_oss/ ;-) |
| 07:18.26 | streuner | modinfo snd_pcm_oss |
| 07:18.35 | streuner | PCM OSS emulation for ALSA |
| 07:19.14 | hanasaki | bingo.. the apt-get install libesd0-alsa fixed it |
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| 07:20.37 | hanasaki | what other options are there other than esd? |
| 07:20.50 | streuner | ARTS |
| 07:20.51 | hanasaki | i ttried artsd |
| 07:20.52 | freelancer | pfft eek :( well I did have it working ok...now I have nfi |
| 07:21.01 | hanasaki | Creating link /home/export/hanasaki/.kde/socket-deskstation. |
| 07:21.01 | hanasaki | can't create mcop directory |
| 07:21.02 | streuner | or just turn it off |
| 07:21.14 | hanasaki | it?> |
| 07:21.19 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 07:21.19 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 07:21.23 | valdyn | hanasaki: gnome sounds go via esd, there's no 'real' alternativbe. Polypaudio is ugly too |
| 07:21.23 | streuner | arts or esd |
| 07:21.45 | valdyn | hanasaki: you best don't use gnome sounds nor esd |
| 07:21.48 | streuner | valdyn: there are, you can use KDE ;-) |
| 07:21.57 | valdyn | streuner: yea |
| 07:21.59 | Orfeous | is it possible to unzip multiple zipfiles on one command? like bla, bla1.zip, bla2.zip....? |
| 07:22.03 | hanasaki | hmm so artsd is the kde version fo esd? |
| 07:22.14 | streuner | yes |
| 07:22.21 | Orfeous | or do i have to unzip every zipfile invidually? |
| 07:22.26 | hanasaki | any idea whats up with that error when i try artsd? |
| 07:22.30 | valdyn | hanasaki: that is just for those annoying sounds coming on mouse clicks and starting/quitting gnome.. who needs that? |
| 07:22.52 | hanasaki | valdyn: true |
| 07:23.22 | valdyn | hanasaki: applications can output straight to alsa ( at least the big majority ) |
| 07:23.59 | hanasaki | valdyn: right.. however.. only the app that grabs it can use it.. right? any app that wants to mix in its audio too is sol |
| 07:24.09 | valdyn | !dmix |
| 07:24.09 | dpkg | dmix is probably an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
| 07:24.45 | hanasaki | nice! |
| 07:24.49 | hanasaki | but not deb package? |
| 07:24.55 | valdyn | hanasaki: maybe a little harder to setup, but it never failed me so i guess its good |
| 07:25.14 | valdyn | hanasaki: uh, those links only point out config files |
| 07:25.32 | valdyn | hanasaki: you do have dmix installed already |
| 07:25.42 | hanasaki | how do you know |
| 07:26.06 | valdyn | hanasaki: its integrated in alsa ( libasound or libasound2 ) |
| 07:26.18 | hanasaki | ah |
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| 07:30.52 | lkem | did anyone ever successfully install Xorg on sarge? |
| 07:31.10 | streuner | plenty |
| 07:31.14 | hanasaki | thanks |
| 07:31.21 | streuner | what's the error? |
| 07:31.45 | freelancer | cant believe I'm back to square one:/ |
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| 07:31.59 | stoned | freelancer, Jumanji or Zathura? |
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| 07:32.20 | stoned | heh, bad joke |
| 07:32.22 | freelancer | ? |
| 07:32.25 | valdyn | !xorg sarge |
| 07:32.25 | dpkg | xorg sarge is, like, now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 07:34.45 | jetscreamer | !laugh |
| 07:35.12 | Dwonis | jetscreamer: eh? |
| 07:35.24 | jetscreamer | !pal Dwonis |
| 07:36.08 | Dwonis | :-P |
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| 07:36.58 | feltz | Is there some sort of plugin or library available for XMMS or amaroK to play .umx files? (Unreal, UT, Deus Ex, etc. music format) |
| 07:37.23 | Dwonis | feltz: Did you try xmms-modplug, like I suggested the last time you asked? |
| 07:37.29 | woodland | does anybody know any aerial combat game in debian which is high tech |
| 07:37.40 | feltz | Dwonis: Whoops, didn't see that! |
| 07:38.00 | freelancer | <devistated |
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| 07:39.49 | feltz | Dwonis: Thanks, that worked! Is the only way this will work is using this XMMS plugin? |
| 07:40.05 | feltz | Like, no system-wide library to get them playing in any player? |
| 07:40.29 | valdyn | feltz: no such thing as system wide audio libraries - does not exist |
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| 07:41.21 | valdyn | feltz: vlc and xine should be able to play it too |
| 07:41.47 | feltz | valdyn: Ah, well obviously I'm not well informed about the workings of the audio subsystems, but I was just wondering if I could get this to play in other apps because this is an XMMS specific plugin |
| 07:41.59 | Dwonis | feltz: there's also a "modplugplay" command, and you could try "mikmod" which might work as well |
| 07:42.24 | Dwonis | feltz: (though I don't think mikmod will work if xmms didn't already support umx files out of the box) |
| 07:42.41 | Noboru | peritus, and laney_ , Thank you. The Mysql problem has been fixed :) |
| 07:43.18 | feltz | Dwonis: I'm more interested in getting them working with amaroK... and perhaps especially being able to convert them the OGG format? |
| 07:43.33 | Noboru | Just the speeds is strange,i mean im testing my forum in a Lan,it should be bloody fast but it doesnt,maybe its the chroot issue dont know |
| 07:44.03 | Dwonis | feltz: do you have a link to an example .umx file that I could poke around with? |
| 07:46.10 | _-tim-_ | do the upcoming changes to the java license mean that sun's jvm can be included in debian? |
| 07:47.05 | woodland | does anybody know any aerial combat game in debian which is high tech |
| 07:47.18 | callee | _-tim-_: what explicitly are the changes? |
| 07:48.23 | callee | woodland: apt-cache search game |
| 07:48.34 | woodland | callee: ok |
| 07:48.41 | jetscreamer | woodland: not really |
| 07:49.04 | jetscreamer | woodland: search sourceforge.net |
| 07:49.05 | callee | decent 3 is nice but neither free nor state-of the art, but works with linux natively |
| 07:49.12 | _-tim-_ | well they said the changes were to make the jre easier to bundle with linux, doesn't mention any changes to the jdk. i was just wondering if anyone knew what was going on with that |
| 07:49.14 | woodland | jetscreamer: ok |
| 07:51.02 | callee | _-tim-_: the point is, nobody seems to know the changes and as long as that doesnt happen, it just a hype nothing more. and linux-most-favorite is jdk anyway so there wont be much changes, as jre is not necessary if you have jdk and you cannot include jdk in debian so.... |
| 07:52.00 | WasF | Hi all. After Sarge, all versions of hd-media/boot.img.gz fail to boot on my system (booting from a USB stick) ! |
| 07:52.08 | WasF | Sarge itself freezes (USB keybord no longer responding) on the second screen (choose language). Any clues ? |
| 07:52.13 | _-tim-_ | i see |
| 07:53.23 | junix659 | what do i do if somoene has taken control of my nick and can't get it back?? |
| 07:53.44 | dondelelcaro | junix659: /msg nickserv help ghost |
| 07:53.58 | callee | dammit, i need to enlarge my /usr partition, i thought 4Gig would be enough for a desktop, obviously i was wrong |
| 07:54.25 | valdyn | callee: du -hs /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 07:54.44 | callee | 0 |
| 07:54.55 | callee | anyway, what has /var to do with /usr? |
| 07:54.58 | valdyn | callee: ops, wrong directory |
| 07:55.02 | valdyn | callee: yep |
| 07:55.19 | valdyn | callee: next culprit could be /usr/src/ |
| 07:55.47 | Dwonis | feltz: ok, mikmod can't play .umx files... |
| 07:57.14 | tarzeau | Dwonis: tried opencubicplayer or modplugplay yet? |
| 07:57.27 | tarzeau | Dwonis: isn't umx some colleciton of modules? of a game? got an example umx? |
| 07:57.36 | valdyn | tarzeau: it is |
| 07:57.37 | Dwonis | tarzeau: modplugplay works. never even heard of opencubicplayer |
| 07:57.38 | tarzeau | Dwonis: i was sure all the mods as umx can be gotten as real mods |
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| 07:57.47 | tarzeau | Dwonis: can i have your umx? |
| 07:57.49 | liable | anyone know if w32codecs will play divx6? |
| 07:58.18 | tarzeau | Dwonis: opencubicplayer ? over 10 years old? never heard? http://io.debian.net/~tar/misc/ocp.png |
| 07:58.29 | tarzeau | liable: divx6? can i have your exmaple movie? |
| 07:58.55 | tarzeau | Dwonis: you like modplugplay? |
| 07:59.17 | liable | tarzeau: what do you mean? |
| 07:59.26 | Dwonis | tarzeau: not particularly. it doesn't support ALSA, apparently |
| 07:59.39 | Dwonis | I usually use mikmod or just xmms |
| 07:59.47 | tarzeau | liable: you have a particular file in divx6, can i have a copy? |
| 07:59.57 | liable | tarzeau: not yet :) |
| 07:59.57 | tarzeau | Dwonis: mikmod renders alot of modules very badly |
| 08:00.12 | tarzeau | Dwonis: please use the anything using modplug, much better (but also not the best) |
| 08:00.20 | tarzeau | opencubicplayer is probably the best |
| 08:00.27 | tarzeau | but not yet very portable |
| 08:00.47 | tarzeau | Dwonis: send me a patch for ALSA, shouldn't be too hard |
| 08:01.16 | Dwonis | tarzeau: funny, I like the way mikmod renders them... it seems to reproduce my mods that were ripped from the Amiga more accurately than modplug |
| 08:01.35 | Dwonis | tarzeau: but that's probably just because the Amiga's sound capabilities are somewhat lacking by modern standards |
| 08:01.37 | tarzeau | Dwonis: strange, i used to like it too many years ago |
| 08:02.00 | feltz | tarzeau can you accept my PMs or no? |
| 08:02.12 | tarzeau | feltz: sure i can, but is it really so private? |
| 08:02.30 | tarzeau | feltz: if you're not identified, go harass lilo and #freenode i don't want to hear anything |
| 08:02.44 | valdyn | i suppose even most modern soundcards do not have 4 channel h/w mixing like amigas had 1985 ;) |
| 08:02.49 | tarzeau | and i've got ubuntu string in my ignore list |
| 08:02.59 | feltz | Ohh, well I was the one asking about .umx originally and I have the files if you wanted |
| 08:03.01 | tarzeau | valdyn: yes |
| 08:03.08 | tarzeau | valdyn: it's done in software |
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| 08:03.22 | tarzeau | valdyn: gravis made such soundcards... |
| 08:03.43 | valdyn | tarzeau: yea, gravis ultrasound |
| 08:04.05 | tarzeau | valdyn: they've also had great midi patches |
| 08:04.20 | tarzeau | valdyn: playing doom and descent , using cubicplayer watching demos really was great on that |
| 08:04.41 | Dwonis | feltz: if you just want to convert the .umx files to ogg Vorbis, you can use xmms's "Disk Writer" output plugin to create a .WAV of the file, then use oggenc to encode it to Vorbis |
| 08:04.52 | tarzeau | Dwonis: rape! rape! |
| 08:05.17 | Dwonis | tarzeau: huh? |
| 08:05.19 | tarzeau | Dwonis: one don't convert modules to ogg/mp3 for xmms, maybe for portable music players, but even that , it's such a waste of storage space |
| 08:05.32 | tarzeau | Dwonis: i wish there was music players that handle modules |
| 08:05.40 | tarzeau | because i can fit 5000 chiptunes on 128mb! |
| 08:05.48 | feltz | Right, I suppose I should just do that... it would be inconvienient but for just 3 game OSTs it should be fine |
| 08:06.03 | tarzeau | www.maktone.tk my all time favourite , and mickrippon.com is great too |
| 08:06.05 | feltz | tarzeau: I'd like them to be in OGG for portable media purposes |
| 08:06.15 | tarzeau | feltz: i'd like them to be in original format |
| 08:06.24 | tarzeau | feltz: you know chiptunes can be only a few kilobytes? |
| 08:06.34 | Dwonis | tarzeau: <feltz> Dwonis: I'm more interested in getting them working with amaroK... and perhaps especially being able to convert them the OGG format? |
| 08:06.34 | feltz | Right, but these aren't chiptunes... |
| 08:07.08 | tarzeau | someone sent me a patched modplugplay just yesterday to render to stdout |
| 08:07.24 | Dwonis | The only packages that depend on libmodplug* are: cynthiune.app libmodplug0c2 libmodplug-dev libxine1 python-modplug vlc xmms-modplug |
| 08:07.42 | Dwonis | of course, there might be some Recommends: or Suggests: lines that I'm missing |
| 08:07.48 | feltz | Dwonis: Right, it would be nice for amaroK to play them natively but if I'm going to convert to OGG anyway I guess that wouldn't matter... still I would like to know if it's possible/try and mess with it to get it working |
| 08:07.49 | tarzeau | Dwonis: you miss one important: |
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| 08:08.18 | tarzeau | Dwonis: schism |
| 08:08.21 | Dwonis | feltz: you might want to look at this: http://amarok.sourceforge.net/artsplugins.php |
| 08:08.23 | tarzeau | it also uses libmodplug |
| 08:08.26 | valdyn | feltz: most players can output samples, even xmms, those samples can trivially be encoded to ogg |
| 08:08.31 | tarzeau | !schism |
| 08:08.44 | Dwonis | tarzeau: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libsdl1.2debian (>> 1.2.7+1.2.8), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) |
| 08:08.46 | tarzeau | dpkg schism is ImpulseTracker clone aiming at providing the same look&feel |
| 08:08.46 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 08:08.49 | valdyn | feltz: s/samples/samples to disk/ |
| 08:08.50 | tarzeau | Dwonis: i know it does |
| 08:08.51 | Dwonis | tarzeau: what are you smoking? |
| 08:09.07 | tarzeau | Dwonis: look, just because it doesn't have a depends line, doesn't mean it depends on it |
| 08:09.25 | tarzeau | Dwonis: i know for sure it's using modplug to render it |
| 08:09.39 | Dwonis | tarzeau: fine, you win |
| 08:09.48 | feltz | hehe |
| 08:10.06 | Dwonis | I'm guessing schism uses dlopen() |
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| 08:11.07 | tarzeau | Dwonis: from the changelog: already-installed version of libmodplug; I'm moving it in with |
| 08:11.10 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:11.28 | tarzeau | these things should probably flow back into modplug development |
| 08:11.32 | Dwonis | tarzeau: ah. |
| 08:13.40 | Dwonis | feltz: cool, so you can use schism to load .umx files, then save them as .it files |
| 08:14.44 | feltz | .it files? |
| 08:15.10 | Dwonis | feltz: ImpulseTracker. A more common format. |
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| 08:17.48 | Dwonis | !umx |
| 08:17.48 | dpkg | it has been said that umx is a weird tracker module format used by Unreal, UT, Deus Ex, etc. ModPlug (e.g. xmms-modplus) can play .umx files, and you can convert them to ImpulseTracker format by loading and re-saving them using schism. |
| 08:18.07 | Reptilutz | [root@ms5 local]# rm -Rf /usr/local/pgsql |
| 08:18.08 | Reptilutz | <Spiritul> rm: cannot remove directory `/usr/local/pgsql/bin': Directory not empty |
| 08:18.08 | Reptilutz | rm: cannot remove directory `/usr/local/pgsql': Directory not empty |
| 08:18.08 | Reptilutz | [root@ms5 local]# |
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| 08:18.34 | freelancer | rm -rf |
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| 08:18.48 | peterS | Reptilutz: yeah, so don't paste crap |
| 08:18.52 | Reptilutz | http://coder-com.pastebin.com/703139 |
| 08:18.58 | peterS | Reptilutz: especially an empty root prompt string, that was truly unnecessary |
| 08:18.59 | Reptilutz | Help me plz, http://coder-com.pastebin.com/703139 |
| 08:19.10 | Reptilutz | how i can remove this ?? |
| 08:19.20 | Dwonis | Reptilutz: use lsattr or chattr to see if the files/dirs are immutable |
| 08:19.55 | Dwonis | Reptilutz: either that, or something is recreating stuff in those dirs on-the-fly, or you aren't _really_ root (e.g. in a jail) |
| 08:20.03 | Dwonis | Reptilutz: what does this have to do with Debian, anyway? |
| 08:20.05 | feltz | Dwonis: Did you just add that !umx command? |
| 08:20.11 | Dwonis | feltz: yup |
| 08:20.22 | stoned | oh my god |
| 08:20.46 | stoned | <Dwonis> feltz: yup <-- I happened to glance at the monitor and all I saw was this " felt up " |
| 08:20.47 | stoned | lol |
| 08:21.00 | Reptilutz | Dwonis Red Hat Linux release 7.3 (Valhalla) |
| 08:21.35 | peterS | Reptilutz: uh, I'm not sure where you think you are but you're in #debian |
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| 08:21.43 | Reptilutz | k |
| 08:21.53 | feltz | Is it really Sunday already? The Lord's day? To the bubbler! |
| 08:22.19 | peterS | feltz: in most parts of the world it is Sunday indeed |
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| 08:25.07 | freelancer | unfortuneatly Sunday is almost over here... |
| 08:25.20 | Dwonis | by the way, thanks tarzeau for the schism reference |
| 08:25.21 | fantomas | Hi. Does anybody know how to restart resolver. I mean I changed /etc/resolv.conf and want changes to take effect. |
| 08:25.33 | fantomas | make |
| 08:25.41 | Dwonis | freelancer: what, wmaker works great, except when it doesn't |
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| 08:26.04 | freelancer | agreed... |
| 08:26.10 | dondelelcaro | fantomas: it takes effect immediately on any newly started application. |
| 08:26.36 | dondelelcaro | (or any started application that calls res_init() |
| 08:27.35 | tarzeau | Dwonis: you're welcome |
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| 08:28.10 | freelancer | I have it working...I believed I had fixed my problem with it but aparently haven't and the problem still exists |
| 08:28.12 | xomhau | hi all |
| 08:28.19 | fantomas | dondelelcaro: yes, looks like now works. Strange, recently I could make applications to 'see' a new dns until I restart. |
| 08:28.28 | fantomas | could not* |
| 08:28.58 | dondelelcaro | fantomas: the only way that would be the case is if your resolv.conf points at localhost and you're using a dns cacher... |
| 08:29.11 | dondelelcaro | fantomas: otherwise, resolv.conf is read everytime an application cals res_init |
| 08:29.39 | tarzeau | gtk is broken |
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| 08:30.05 | tarzeau | open this link, get an alert window and try to close it (without a window manager) ftp://uid0.ch/../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../../.. |
| 08:30.21 | tarzeau | oh, firefox btw |
| 08:30.22 | freelancer | ? |
| 08:30.51 | freelancer | so now I have no idea what to do next... |
| 08:31.48 | freelancer | it was working fine for several hours then retured to how it was before |
| 08:31.59 | xomhau | what do i to know who connect to my sharing file ( samba )? |
| 08:32.06 | tarzeau | xomhau: logfiles |
| 08:32.19 | peterS | fantomas: if you are running 'nscd' that may interfere with rereading resolv.conf in a timely manner |
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| 08:32.43 | xomhau | tarzeau: thank u |
| 08:32.43 | Dwonis | tarzeau: when in doubt, Ctrl-Alt-F1, login, ps afx, kill $offending_app |
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| 08:32.57 | Dwonis | tarzeau: ocp's playback is _severely_ broken |
| 08:33.01 | liable | tarzeau: wtf does that do? |
| 08:33.03 | tarzeau | Dwonis: you know my windowmanager really is good |
| 08:33.11 | tarzeau | Dwonis: which tunes? can you give url? |
| 08:33.16 | tarzeau | liable: what? |
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| 08:33.57 | liable | tarzeau: that link |
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| 08:35.09 | fantomas | peterS: yes, I had nscd running at that moment |
| 08:35.22 | Dwonis | tarzeau: anything. For example, this 32K mod: http://rivest.dlitz.net/~dwon/horizons%27edge.mod |
| 08:35.23 | fantomas | peterS: no other cachers though |
| 08:35.27 | peterS | fantomas: if you don't run nscd, every app will read resolv.conf every time it starts up |
| 08:35.53 | peterS | well, I mean, every app that does DNS lookups (: |
| 08:36.04 | fantomas | peterS: except dig ;) |
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| 08:36.16 | Dwonis | tarzeau: it's like the sound buffer size is too short or something |
| 08:36.17 | tarzeau | Dwonis: hmmm |
| 08:36.32 | peterS | fantomas: even dig reads resolv.conf, doesn't it? how else does it know whom to ask? |
| 08:37.13 | Dwonis | tarzeau: also, ctrl-C doesn't actually exit |
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| 08:37.21 | tarzeau | Dwonis: double esc |
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| 08:38.15 | Dwonis | tarzeau: here's the thing, ctrl-C does stop playback and gives a blank screen for about 2 seconds, then it resumes, mangled |
| 08:38.22 | freelancer | Dwonis how do you start your wmaker expereince? |
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| 08:38.32 | Dwonis | freelancer: from ~/.xsession |
| 08:38.33 | tarzeau | Dwonis: feel free to file a bugreport or fix the source and patch it |
| 08:39.37 | fantomas | peterS: I mean dig is the only application which really read resov.conf every time. ping, opera and others suffered from unability to do it. |
| 08:39.57 | peterS | fantomas: right, probably because dig does not use NSS, the others do |
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| 08:40.08 | freelancer | ARhuh! dont have that file... |
| 08:40.17 | peterS | fantomas: NSS (name service switch) is related to nscd |
| 08:40.27 | Dwonis | tarzeau: I might, but don't count on it |
| 08:40.31 | fantomas | peterS: yes I see |
| 08:41.05 | peterS | fantomas: any app that calls gethostbyname() from the C library will go through nscd. but dig does not, it does its own DNS query using the BIND client library. |
| 08:41.18 | freelancer | I was/am starting it with startx currently... |
| 08:41.23 | rohan | hi all .. i installed apache2 and now i want to use the documentroot in my ~/FOO so that i can try php without using root everytime. on other distros i can set DocumentRoot in httpd.conf, and in debian in apache2.conf. but how do i do it "The Debian Way" ? like, using the sites-available and sites-enabled ? |
| 08:42.51 | rohan | like a "configuring apache2 in debian" guide ? |
| 08:44.03 | Dwonis | tarzeau: on http://rivest.dlitz.net/~dwon/giana_cracktro.mod , ocp outright doesn't play the second voice |
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| 08:44.59 | Dwonis | tarzeau: hmm... not completely, just mostly |
| 08:45.16 | peterS | rohan: if you don't want to bother with multiple distinct vhosts, you can just edit sites-available/default |
| 08:45.26 | rohan | peterS: oh, ok |
| 08:45.47 | rohan | peterS: but cant i copy it to a another file, name it "rohan" , say, and edit it ? and then use a2ensite ? |
| 08:46.14 | trenka | rohan: you can use ~/public_html |
| 08:46.29 | rohan | trenka: oh, thats enabled by default ? |
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| 08:46.36 | peterS | rohan: you can, sure, but if you don't have multiple virtual host definitions there's not much point in having multiple site files |
| 08:46.46 | rohan | trenka: like, i can do localhost/~rohan/index.php ? |
| 08:46.58 | trenka | rohan: yes |
| 08:47.00 | rohan | peterS: oh, i see |
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| 08:47.33 | rohan | The requested URL /~rohan was not found on this server. |
| 08:47.36 | rohan | trenka: ^^ |
| 08:47.42 | rohan | using http://localhost/~rohan |
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| 08:48.00 | rohan | [rohan@debian public_html]$ pwd |
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| 08:48.00 | rohan | /home/rohan/public_html |
| 08:48.00 | rohan | [rohan@debian public_html]$ ls |
| 08:48.00 | rohan | index.php |
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| 08:48.10 | rohan | sorry |
| 08:48.21 | Chameleon22 | is there a way to make protected samba share (requires user auth for rw) accesable by a guest with read only permissions? |
| 08:48.24 | rohan | i didnt realize i copied so much :( |
| 08:48.38 | peterS | rohan: oh, read apache2.conf where it has a 'UserDir' directive commented out |
| 08:48.51 | peterS | you can uncomment it there or in sites-available/default |
| 08:49.20 | rohan | peterS: ok, i uncommented UserDir public_html in apache2.conf .. that do it ? |
| 08:49.37 | callee | tarzeau: no problem to close the window |
| 08:49.43 | trenka | a2enmod userdir ? |
| 08:49.43 | peterS | rohan: ah but wait, it mentions that it is now a module. so see mods-available/userdir.conf |
| 08:49.54 | rohan | peterS: yes, lol, i just got an error |
| 08:50.02 | tarzeau | callee: do you have a close button? |
| 08:50.08 | tarzeau | callee: NOT the one of the window manager |
| 08:50.16 | peterS | rohan: and 'a2enmod userdir' as trenka says, which will create symlinks from mods-available to mods-enabled |
| 08:50.21 | callee | i can use the close function from the menu |
| 08:50.38 | callee | aka ctrl+w |
| 08:51.00 | callee | how else should i close the browsers window anyway? |
| 08:51.10 | freelancer | what would cuase a mouse curser to move across the screen (left-right) unaided? my first thoughts were that it was a conflict |
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| 08:51.29 | peterS | freelancer: incorrect mouse protocol? |
| 08:51.44 | peterS | I mean, if the mouse is not working correctly at all |
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| 08:52.04 | rohan | did that |
| 08:52.14 | rohan | works now... thanks a lot, peterS and trenka :) |
| 08:52.19 | Niklas_E | how do you enable mysql.so (in php.ini) in apache2? |
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| 08:52.20 | freelancer | it is working fine with other operating system on another box... |
| 08:52.20 | callee | freelancer: i have the same problem and sometimes it is stuck at the left border of the screen |
| 08:52.28 | peterS | rohan: yeah so 'apache2ctl graceful' to restart |
| 08:52.30 | callee | even restarting x is not helping for long |
| 08:52.34 | peterS | ah, good |
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| 08:52.43 | rohan | peterS: ouch, i did /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ... |
| 08:52.44 | freelancer | could a kvm cause the prob? |
| 08:52.49 | freelancer | callee ahh ok... |
| 08:52.50 | peterS | rohan: that works fine too |
| 08:53.02 | peterS | in fact it probably does exactly the same thing\ |
| 08:53.02 | rohan | Niklas_E: here it was enabled automatically after installing php5-mysql |
| 08:53.05 | callee | freelancer: dunno what the cause is |
| 08:53.07 | rohan | peterS: aha ok |
| 08:53.08 | freelancer | it didn't do it for hours today then it started doing it |
| 08:53.29 | freelancer | callee its frustrating ey |
| 08:53.39 | callee | freelancer: i have this since kernel 2.6.16 |
| 08:53.49 | rohan | however, while restarting or starting or stopping apache i get this -- apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName ---> is it anything to be concerned about ? any way i can solve this thing ? |
| 08:53.49 | callee | the problem didnt occur with 2.6.14.6 |
| 08:54.24 | callee | 2.6.16.x seems to be broken in many ways. closing x crashes my dri drivers (i915) |
| 08:54.24 | peterS | rohan: I wouldn't worry. it only needs to know that info for the purpose of virtual hosts |
| 08:54.38 | peterS | rohan: which is to say, multiple distinct sites on a single IP address |
| 08:54.43 | freelancer | im running potato 2.2.r2 |
| 08:54.53 | freelancer | brb - |
| 08:55.03 | peterS | freelancer: w00t, you're very retro |
| 08:55.11 | rohan | peterS: ok, as it is i installed apache to just learn php, i am not going to "show" this to outside world .. no way i can solve it ? |
| 08:55.49 | trenka | rohan: you can set ServerName |
| 08:55.52 | peterS | rohan: I wonder where it gets the 127.0.1.1. anyway, you can put that in /etc/hosts with a made-up name, if you want |
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| 08:56.04 | rohan | ok, trenka and peterS |
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| 08:56.26 | Vader | hello :P |
| 08:56.33 | peterS | setting ServerName (in sites-available/default) is probably the better option |
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| 08:56.58 | special1 | hi |
| 08:57.04 | Vader | Can i ask a question ..I have a debian system where i want samba to get wins server from the dhcp settings....of the net card.. |
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| 08:57.25 | Vader | i only have wins support =yes on the smb.conf..It's ok right ..? |
| 08:57.43 | peterS | Vader: no, 'wins support = yes' means samba *is* a wins server |
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| 08:57.48 | rohan | trenka, peterS : i typed "ServerName rohan" is sites-available/default, yet it shows that message.. i did reload and restart |
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| 08:58.09 | bengrubb | he said "can i ask a question"... |
| 08:58.11 | RichiH | where does firefox store its info about running processes? Thankfully, /var/run is ignored so linux users will have fun trying to make it run after a crashed session.. |
| 08:58.11 | dorel__ | how can i control applications association with kde? (kdeinit, dcopserver, klaunch...) |
| 08:58.15 | toblerp | are tools like a2ensite debian-specific? |
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| 08:58.44 | rohan | yes, toblerp |
| 08:58.48 | peterS | bengrubb: yes but then he actually asked his question without wasting any more of our time. so that was ok. |
| 08:58.53 | rohan | dorel__: using kcontrol |
| 08:58.56 | RichiH | dorel__: huh? |
| 08:59.11 | bengrubb | peterS: yes :() |
| 08:59.15 | bengrubb | new emoticon... |
| 08:59.23 | bengrubb | i call it frog |
| 08:59.25 | freelancer | lol retro, guess I am a bit.. |
| 08:59.29 | bolrod | G:) |
| 08:59.32 | rohan | dorel__: Kcontrol -> Kde components -> File Associations |
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| 08:59.46 | freelancer | just having a break - dinner |
| 08:59.55 | peterS | freelancer: do you know where to get a potato ISO image? I actually had need of one the other day |
| 09:00.11 | R-Ratones | http://ftp.uni-sofia.bg/debian-cd-unofficial/potato/ |
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| 09:00.22 | peterS | R-Ratones: w00t, thanks |
| 09:00.29 | R-Ratones | you welcome :P |
| 09:00.29 | rohan | peterS, trenka : what should be the proper "ServerName" ? and where do i set it ? apache2.conf or sitesavailable/default ? |
| 09:01.06 | bengrubb | use a control panel much easier |
| 09:01.07 | peterS | rohan: normally sites-available/default since it is specific to a particular virtual host. the name you pick should probably appear in /etc/hosts with the corresponding IP address, or something like that |
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| 09:01.24 | bengrubb | i reccomend VHCS 2.4.6.2 with the patch |
| 09:01.35 | rohan | peterS: oh, i see.. so how about ServerName localhost ? since that will surely be there in /etc/hosts ? |
| 09:01.44 | peterS | R-Ratones: .bg means I'm downloading from Bill Gates's servers, right? (: |
| 09:01.52 | bengrubb | hehe |
| 09:01.57 | peterS | rohan: sure, try it anyway |
| 09:01.59 | toblerp | where can i get the source for the start-stop-daemon |
| 09:02.03 | R-Ratones | XD |
| 09:02.12 | peterS | toblerp: 'dpkg -S start-stop-daemon' to see what package it is in |
| 09:02.13 | AnyFile | I am experiencing serious problem install debian. Are all the listed sites for net-inst working, or just some of them are working? |
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| 09:02.34 | toblerp | i already tried that |
| 09:02.35 | bengrubb | when i installed i just skipped updating |
| 09:02.36 | peterS | toblerp: since it is in 'dpkg', you can get source from http://packages.debian.org/src:dpkg |
| 09:02.39 | rohan | didnt work, peterS |
| 09:02.44 | Chameleon22 | is there a way to make protected samba share (requires user auth for rw) accesable by a guest with read only permissions? |
| 09:02.45 | toblerp | weird, now it worked |
| 09:02.47 | bengrubb | i added my source aftewrwards |
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| 09:03.07 | peterS | rohan: I still wonder where it gets the 127.0.1.1. the normal localhost address is 127.0.0.1. that is what will be in /etc/hosts corresponding to localhost |
| 09:03.16 | peterS | rohan: in practice, 127.anything will work equally well |
| 09:03.38 | rohan | peterS: yes. in hosts, see -- 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 debian |
| 09:03.42 | rohan | rest all ipv6 stuff |
| 09:03.49 | peterS | rohan: right so try ServerName debian |
| 09:03.56 | rohan | peterS: did that, too |
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| 09:04.58 | rohan | peterS: didnt help |
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| 09:05.23 | peterS | rohan: don't know why it's complaining then, if you're using the servername 'debian' and the IP address '127.0.1.1'. if that is what is in /etc/hosts it should be happy with it |
| 09:05.25 | bintut | hello all... |
| 09:05.57 | Noboru | i don't know why but im testing a php forum in Lan in vmware, very slow |
| 09:06.02 | peterS | rohan: unless it is suspicious of the fact that your machine has no fully qualified domain name (i.e., 'debian.example.com') |
| 09:06.08 | rohan | peterS: tell me .. where do i type serverName debian ? i am typing it inside <VirtualHost *> ... is that ok ? |
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| 09:06.29 | rohan | peterS: yes, my domain name is empty. hostname is "debian" |
| 09:06.31 | bintut | i have here an hp compaq nx6125 that uses an amd turion64 64bit processor.. do you think i still use the 32bit sarge for my laptop or shall i go with the unofficial amd64? |
| 09:06.35 | peterS | rohan: should be fine |
| 09:06.58 | rohan | bintut: 32bit if you want codecs, flash and java easily |
| 09:07.09 | rohan | peterS: even though domain name is empty ? |
| 09:07.22 | rohan | 14:36 < rohan> peterS: yes, my domain name is empty. hostname is "debian" |
| 09:07.23 | bintut | rohan: yes, that's what i'm looking for.. codecs, flash and java.. |
| 09:07.24 | peterS | rohan: I mean, should be fine to put it inside VirtualHost *. |
| 09:07.30 | rohan | peterS: oh, ok |
| 09:07.51 | rohan | bintut: then go for 32bit |
| 09:08.01 | bintut | rohan: but do you think i'll be unutilizing my laptop's 64bit mode? |
| 09:08.16 | rohan | bintut: yes, that will happen. |
| 09:08.21 | peterS | rohan: 'search example.com' in /etc/resolv.conf is the usual way to specify a fully qualified domain name. however, if you don't want one ... I guess just let apache whine about it |
| 09:08.47 | bintut | rohan: that's what i'm thinking.. :( |
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| 09:09.25 | AnyFile | where can I get the list of servers from where the net-installer can downaload the packages? |
| 09:09.34 | freelancer | ok back now |
| 09:10.08 | rohan | peterS: hehe .. problem with domain name is -- i dont want "rohan@debian.example.com" as my login prompt, and i dont want "search" line in /etc/resolv.conf .. i dont want ANY search line. right now its empty, how do i disable adding the search line, from dhclient ? |
| 09:10.25 | rohan | if thats resolved, peterS , then i dont mind setting domain name :DD |
| 09:11.07 | trenka | rohan: I'm sorry, I can not help, but could you just ignore the message? |
| 09:11.12 | freelancer | nice to know I'm not the only one with the problem |
| 09:11.27 | peterS | rohan: I'm honestly not sure. dhclient and the 'resolvconf' program and /etc/resolv.conf are all in a tangled mess these days |
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| 09:12.56 | AnyFile | I too have serious probelm with resolv while installing |
| 09:13.12 | rohan | trenka: hehe, yea, i guess i could just ignore it .. but i am perfectionist ;) |
| 09:13.20 | Razva | folks, my machine pings any IP but can't resolve. where can the problem be? |
| 09:13.22 | rohan | peterS: i agree :S |
| 09:13.42 | rohan | peterS: there should be an option to disable "search" line :S |
| 09:13.47 | AnyFile | The same happens to me Razva |
| 09:14.08 | peterS | rohan: well, all those files are in /etc so in theory you can hack them all to do whatever you want, as an admin. but it doesn't look like there are *easy* ways to configure this stuff |
| 09:14.16 | AnyFile | Razva, if I ping and site and immediately after I try to telent the same site it works |
| 09:14.37 | rohan | peterS: yes, there is no "The Debian Way" to do it |
| 09:14.38 | AnyFile | but if I ping a second site, then the first do not work anymore |
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| 09:15.03 | freelancer | guess I'll have to live with the problem for now...to the next thing to do |
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| 09:15.10 | peterS | rohan: the funny thing is, the 'resolvconf' package is specifically designed to solve problems with dynamically generated resolv.conf files. you would think it could solve all these related problems. |
| 09:15.14 | AnyFile | but if I ping site_one and then telent site one, thenn make an host search on site_two, then both site_one and site_two work ... very strange |
| 09:15.35 | Razva | http://pastebin.com/703169 <- can somebody please check this link and tell me what's wrong in it, cause it worked for two weeks and now it's just not working. it doesn't wants to resolve ANY address. |
| 09:15.38 | rohan | hehe, peterS |
| 09:15.38 | peterS | AnyFile: could be weirdness with 'nscd', if you have that installed and running |
| 09:15.42 | multi_io | why doesn't "apt-get update" output the full URLs of the lists it updates? |
| 09:16.08 | AnyFile | peterS, this happens during the installition |
| 09:16.09 | Razva | it can only ping IPs but not any virtual address (like .com) |
| 09:16.16 | rohan | if i have a prog. foo which wont work if pkg baz is not installed, and pkg baz is not listed as a deps of foo. i am filing a bug against foo, what should be the priority/sseverity ? critical ? normal ? grave ? |
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| 09:16.28 | multi_io | for example, "apt-get update" reports "Get:xx http://tick testing/main Packages" several times, where one time it was really http://tick:9999/debian testing main, and another time it was really http://tick:9999/debian-security testing main |
| 09:16.49 | freelancer | where should apt-get be pointed at for downloads? |
| 09:16.51 | peterS | rohan: if foo does not work at all, without baz, it should be 'grave'. if it works but doesn't do everything it should, probably 'normal'. |
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| 09:17.08 | Razva | aaaaaaaargh! |
| 09:17.10 | Razva | lan:/etc/network# ping google.com |
| 09:17.10 | Razva | ping: unknown host google.com |
| 09:17.11 | AnyFile | I got trying to connect to site ftp.xxxx.org (1.0.0.1) (the last digit are as I seen on screen) |
| 09:17.14 | rohan | peterS: well, kdemultimedia-kio-plugins doesnt work at all without hal |
| 09:17.31 | Razva | lan:/etc/network# ping 64.233.187.99 |
| 09:17.31 | Razva | PING 64.233.187.99 (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 09:17.31 | Razva | 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=239 time=150 ms |
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| 09:17.45 | Razva | so it does has net access but it doesn't resolves... the DNS server is UP |
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| 09:18.15 | Razva | http://pastebin.com/703169 <- my interfaces file, if somebody can please take a look at it... |
| 09:18.22 | AnyFile | Razva, what is in your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/host.conf ? |
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| 09:18.36 | Razva | search dvis.info |
| 09:18.36 | Razva | nameserver 86.105.84.1 |
| 09:18.50 | Razva | hosts conf doesn't existrs |
| 09:18.50 | tralala | Razva: do you have a firewall running? |
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| 09:19.01 | Razva | order hosts,bind |
| 09:19.02 | Razva | multi on |
| 09:19.06 | Razva | that's hosts.conf |
| 09:19.22 | Razva | yup, I just shut it down, still doesn't works |
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| 09:19.43 | tralala | Razva: can you ping the nameserver? |
| 09:20.12 | Razva | yes |
| 09:20.25 | Razva | hmmm, I can't find iptables in init.d |
| 09:20.27 | rohan | wtf ! i type "kdemultimedia-kio-plugins" in reportbug, it lists 144 bugs, i dont want to see them all ! |
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| 09:20.48 | AnyFile | is the search line in /etc/resolv.conf useful? |
| 09:20.55 | rohan | AnyFile: no. |
| 09:20.59 | tralala | Razva: are you sure that this is actually a dns server? |
| 09:21.06 | Razva | just flushed iptables, same result |
| 09:21.27 | Razva | PING 86.105.84.1 (86.105.84.1) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 09:21.27 | Razva | 64 bytes from 86.105.84.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.655 ms |
| 09:21.33 | Razva | so the GW replies... |
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| 09:22.00 | AnyFile | Do you have the program host installed, Razva ? If yes try "host www.example.com" |
| 09:22.14 | callee | hmm, what can i do if direct rendering doesnt work? |
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| 09:22.26 | AnyFile | or the same with nslookup |
| 09:22.34 | Razva | lan:/etc/network# host www.razva.info |
| 09:22.36 | Razva | and waiting |
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| 09:22.45 | Razva | nothing hapens... |
| 09:22.49 | callee | it says it enables it, but it doesnt work |
| 09:23.02 | AnyFile | Razva, sometime it is my router that give me similar problems |
| 09:23.04 | tralala | Razva: this doesn't seem to be a nameserver |
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| 09:23.25 | Razva | it's a lan box, no router |
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| 09:23.34 | Razva | connected directly to the ISP\ |
| 09:23.39 | miracle | hi |
| 09:23.43 | Razva | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 09:23.59 | tralala | Razva: try with another nameserver |
| 09:23.59 | miracle | what server? |
| 09:24.06 | Razva | tralala tried, same thing |
| 09:24.36 | Razva | what the heck can it be...? |
| 09:24.57 | miracle | ? |
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| 09:25.19 | tralala | Razva: a) a wrong nameserver; b) a firewall blocking the dns queries |
| 09:25.22 | Razva | lan:/etc/network# host 86.105.84.1 <- that's my NS |
| 09:25.30 | AnyFile | Can you restart the network or reforce the dhcp contraction? |
| 09:25.31 | Razva | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
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| 09:25.39 | miracle | c) a gay in the isp |
| 09:25.57 | miracle | :) |
| 09:25.59 | Razva | heh, I'm on the same ISP on another machine |
| 09:26.00 | Razva | and it works |
| 09:26.04 | Razva | so the DNS server works.. |
| 09:26.15 | Razva | ok, is iptables --flush the right cmd? |
| 09:26.23 | freelancer | maybe I should start unpacking this package... |
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| 09:27.25 | Razva | folks? |
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| 09:31.30 | AnyFile | DO you have ipchains too, Razva ? |
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| 09:32.06 | Razva | yeah |
| 09:32.09 | freelancer | wip me, beat me, ipchain me! |
| 09:32.22 | miracle | ipchains? |
| 09:33.02 | Razva | AnyFile yes |
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| 09:34.28 | rohan | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:34.28 | rohan | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:34.29 | rohan | Not yet rated |
| 09:34.29 | rohan | Rating: |
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| 09:35.16 | rat_poison | hi all |
| 09:35.31 | Blacks | hi |
| 09:35.37 | rat_poison | I am having trouble with my mouse... again. |
| 09:35.47 | rat_poison | Debian SID latest build. |
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| 09:36.01 | rat_poison | the mouse is not detected. Its a USB Logitech mouse |
| 09:36.06 | SonnyBurnett | Hi is it possible to install kaffeine in etch? |
| 09:36.20 | freelancer | eek! another mouse problem |
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| 09:36.26 | rat_poison | standard optical, two button, scroll wheel. |
| 09:36.42 | freelancer | sounds like mine... |
| 09:36.46 | rat_poison | freelancer, does that mean too many people have had this problem? |
| 09:36.46 | freelancer | almost |
| 09:37.00 | rat_poison | I had a keyboard problem earlier but then I fixed it. |
| 09:37.12 | dorel__ | suggestions for a console torrent client? |
| 09:37.19 | rat_poison | but the mouse does not seem tobe detected in the first place. |
| 09:37.19 | freelancer | rat: no |
| 09:38.12 | rat_poison | When I unplug the mouse and plug it in I get something like (0xasdf/0xfhaidh) device is not claimed by any active driver. |
| 09:38.13 | freelancer | actually mine can be ps/2 or usb... |
| 09:38.40 | rat_poison | /dev/input/mice - cannot read from device. |
| 09:38.51 | rat_poison | cat /dev/input/mice - cannot read from device. |
| 09:39.12 | rat_poison | fstat /dev/input/mice gives some info about the device though. |
| 09:39.15 | rat_poison | what does this mean? |
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| 09:39.51 | rat_poison | Eminem: I think my mouse's gone craaazy. |
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| 09:41.18 | AnyFile | Is there anyone who was able to correctly install with the starting minimal CD http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r2-i386-netinst.iso ? |
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| 09:41.58 | rat_poison | hey AnyFile ... I did. |
| 09:42.07 | freelancer | _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 |
| 09:42.56 | AnyFile | rat_poison, i have problem with the DNS during the installation: name server are not resolved to anything else than 1.0.0.1 and so no host can be connected to |
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| 09:43.42 | rat_poison | I think you entered the wrong DNS info |
| 09:45.19 | AnyFile | rat_poison, I just inserted the boot CD and all was autodetected and it was detected correctly |
| 09:45.39 | rat_poison | it would ask for Nameserver info |
| 09:45.48 | rat_poison | base-config will definitely ask you for those things. |
| 09:45.50 | AnyFile | morover if I try to telnet an host I have no answear, but if I ping it the host neme is correctly resolved |
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| 09:46.39 | rat_poison | that is odd. |
| 09:46.41 | rat_poison | really odd. |
| 09:46.59 | rat_poison | when you ping does it give you the time for response? |
| 09:47.06 | AnyFile | Razva, try ipchains -I input -s $nameserver/32 53 -d 0/0 1025:65535 -p udp -j ACCEPT |
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| 09:47.53 | AnyFile | I can not see it now, rat_poison , but it seem reasonabel. Morover if then I tlenet the same host, then it works, but if then |
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| 09:48.10 | AnyFile | I ping a second host, then I am able to tlenet to the second host, but no more to the first |
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| 09:48.36 | rat_poison | never seen a problem like that. /me is stoned. |
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| 09:49.43 | AnyFile | The nameserver I used is actually my router, I'll try to manually correct the config to directly point to my ISP's DNS, but I think it is something strange inside my pc, not in the DNS server |
| 09:49.48 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, I'm setting up gxine, It ask me about cdrom and dvd, I have a CD-Rom drivr = hdc, and DVD-RW drive =hdd, I see the cdrom in /dev/, but I dont see the /dev/hdd, how ca I create it? |
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| 09:50.34 | stoned | hey man |
| 09:50.35 | stoned | wtf |
| 09:50.39 | stoned | quit making my irc flash |
| 09:50.40 | stoned | ;) |
| 09:50.48 | rat_poison | hey stoned lol |
| 09:50.52 | rat_poison | stoned, once again |
| 09:51.23 | stoned | I've went to walmart last night, I bought 10 BIG BAGS of skittles and I have been pigging out ever since |
| 09:51.24 | stoned | :D |
| 09:51.26 | stoned | bye now |
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| 09:51.45 | rat_poison | stoned, returning to stoned status |
| 09:52.34 | rat_poison | Anyone tried installing Debian thru a SD card? |
| 09:53.06 | freelancer | lol, that sounds hunourous for some reason |
| 09:53.07 | rat_poison | I've gotten my computer dead for over 2 weeks now. First it was the keyboard and now its the fking mouse that's dead. |
| 09:53.53 | mutante | it died from your nickname |
| 09:54.16 | Ugly_Duck | what other apps are out there for multimedia keys boards, like hotkeys? |
| 09:54.17 | ephracis | rat_poison: if you succeed and solve your problems maybe you could put out a guide on how you did it? |
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| 09:54.24 | trimordiah | hello, someone here using pygtk? |
| 09:54.44 | rohan | is there some guide that teaches you how to make debian packages in a chroot ? |
| 09:54.56 | rat_poison | oh yeah... I could put out a guide. I am re-insatlling Debian and hopefully that will solve the problemd :D |
| 09:55.25 | freelancer | i tried that |
| 09:55.29 | rat_poison | that is really weird |
| 09:55.31 | rat_poison | omg |
| 09:55.39 | rat_poison | you tried re-installing and it did not work :O |
| 09:55.51 | rat_poison | dont tell me that is the case. |
| 09:55.58 | ephracis | nah, I ment how to install from a SD card. |
| 09:56.24 | freelancer | well...it solved my problem for a couple hours then it was doing it again |
| 09:56.58 | rat_poison | oh ephracis ... I get it. |
| 09:57.00 | rat_poison | will try. |
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| 09:57.29 | rat_poison | freelancer, did it happen after a reboot or after the next update? |
| 09:57.49 | rat_poison | because my mouse was perfectly working until I rebooted. However I had upgraded twice. |
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| 09:58.28 | freelancer | it happend after I reinstalled |
| 09:59.05 | rat_poison | ugh. |
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| 09:59.21 | rat_poison | what is your mouse? |
| 09:59.27 | freelancer | can only try |
| 09:59.30 | rat_poison | damn, my english is stoned ;) |
| 09:59.49 | peterS | only stoned can be stoned |
| 09:59.57 | ephracis | haha |
| 10:00.01 | rat_poison | lol |
| 10:00.04 | freelancer | mine is a logitech laser two button /wheel |
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| 10:00.10 | rat_poison | OMFG! |
| 10:00.13 | stoned | hey |
| 10:00.15 | ephracis | how well does debian support amd64? |
| 10:00.15 | rat_poison | mine is the say. |
| 10:00.19 | rat_poison | mine is the same model. |
| 10:00.23 | stoned | man, wtf, quit making my irc blink ffs |
| 10:00.24 | tarzeau | ephracis: very well |
| 10:00.26 | stoned | :( |
| 10:00.34 | freelancer | I did say earlier they sounded the same |
| 10:00.35 | rat_poison | ok stoned will stop doing it. |
| 10:00.53 | freelancer | mine came with the ps2 adapter |
| 10:01.00 | Ugly_Duck | tarzeau: that would depend on your definition of "very well" i guess |
| 10:01.10 | ephracis | tarzeau: so it's comparable with other 64-bits distros? Sounds great. |
| 10:01.44 | freelancer | p/n:831087 |
| 10:01.56 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, I have a hdd device but it isnt in /dev/hdd, how can I create it? |
| 10:02.07 | freelancer | eep |
| 10:02.15 | rat_poison | freelancer, I think this calls for some digging. |
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| 10:02.25 | rat_poison | all this while I thought it was something simpler. |
| 10:02.26 | znh | Hello people! |
| 10:02.35 | freelancer | m/n:m-bt96a i meant actually |
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| 10:02.46 | ephracis | SonnyBurnett: how can you have it if it doesn't exist? |
| 10:03.09 | rat_poison | ephracis, I think it HDD not detected yet |
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| 10:03.31 | SonnyBurnett | ephracis, it was until yesterday..... |
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| 10:03.56 | SonnyBurnett | ephracis, I mean it is connected, but my system seems to not recognized it |
| 10:03.59 | ephracis | SonnyBurnett: does it show up while booting? |
| 10:04.08 | SonnyBurnett | ephracis, I dont know.... |
| 10:04.08 | freelancer | downloading openssl |
| 10:04.15 | stoned | amaroK: The Streets - The Hardest Way To Make an Easy Living - When You Wasn't Famous - genre/rating Hip-Hop - 73/0 |
| 10:04.18 | stoned | wtf |
| 10:04.26 | ephracis | SonnyBurnett: I had a similar problem, and it turned out it was a faulty cable. |
| 10:04.26 | stoned | thats not supposed to be pubic |
| 10:04.28 | stoned | puglic* |
| 10:04.31 | stoned | public* goddamit |
| 10:04.33 | rat_poison | SonnyBurnett, while POST does the BIOS show the drive? |
| 10:05.03 | SonnyBurnett | rat_poison, yep |
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| 10:07.00 | SonnyBurnett | I will reboot to be sure |
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| 10:07.46 | ephracis | is there any way I can read all the messages from when I boot later? Like in a logfile or something? |
| 10:08.24 | rat_poison | dmesg? |
| 10:08.28 | rat_poison | ephracis, dmesg? |
| 10:08.42 | ephracis | oh, it was that simple. :P |
| 10:08.57 | rat_poison | ephracis, does it not solve your probelms? |
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| 10:09.09 | rat_poison | AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGH!!! my fking typing is gone to the dogs. |
| 10:11.27 | ephracis | rat_poison: not sure.. I'll try looking a bit into it. I want the actual boot messages, cause sometimes I get errors but they just flash by and I can't read them in time. |
| 10:11.46 | rat_poison | dmesg should help you. |
| 10:11.58 | ephracis | I'll have a look. |
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| 10:12.31 | Quibus | Hi... I'm using GNOME, but for some reason, konqueror is used as default image viewer. Any idea where I can set this up? |
| 10:13.19 | Quibus | (it's not in my GNOME Preferred Applications, nor is there an /etc/alternatives thing for it) |
| 10:13.45 | rat_poison | Quibus, I do not know the solution to your problem, but I am all itchy to start a GNOME vs KDE flamewar. are you ready? |
| 10:13.58 | raf256 | I have a debian unstable, can I slowly get it to be debian testing? like not update any application anymore over it's stable version? |
| 10:14.05 | raf256 | *to be debian stable |
| 10:14.27 | Quibus | rat_poison: hehehe.... Well, I'd like 'eog' as viewer, because it starts quicker from GNOME |
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| 10:14.39 | Quibus | dpkg, start a desktop manager war |
| 10:14.43 | raf256 | WHAT THE FUCK? meany packets show up as "NOT AUTHENTICATED" why ??? |
| 10:14.53 | raf256 | I did what /msg dpkg 2006 key said |
| 10:15.02 | raf256 | on debian unstable and testing |
| 10:15.04 | Akbar | I'm using gnome for years, but now I'm bored with it |
| 10:15.05 | Akbar | :P |
| 10:15.19 | rat_poison | startx ++flamewar |
| 10:15.22 | Akbar | hahah |
| 10:15.27 | raf256 | Akbar: its like with wife - if you are bored, change the cloths |
| 10:15.35 | raf256 | or bang her younger sister |
| 10:15.40 | ephracis | Yeah, gnome is more boring then KDE.. At least you can change some options and configurations in KDE.. Gnome is all nazi. :P |
| 10:15.42 | raf256 | no, wait, I took that analogy too far |
| 10:16.15 | rat_poison | raf256 you sould like you have a wife already... are you experienced or something ;) |
| 10:16.17 | Akbar | yeah I'm changing themes so many times.. tango icons and stuff.. but I'm just bored.. need to explore something like windowmaker |
| 10:16.26 | rat_poison | typing -> dogs |
| 10:16.33 | raf256 | meany packets show up as "NOT AUTHENTICATED" why ??? |
| 10:16.41 | raf256 | help \o/ |
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| 10:17.26 | Akbar | ephracis, using kde 3.5? |
| 10:17.27 | rat_poison | raf256 is it packets or packages? |
| 10:17.30 | ciroro | Hi, I'm looking for the CONFIG_VIDEO_BT848 option in menuconfig for 2.4.27; I already enabled video4linux and I2C support but it still isn't listed |
| 10:17.35 | raf256 | rat_poison: meany packages |
| 10:17.40 | ephracis | Akbar: yes. |
| 10:17.44 | Akbar | how is it? |
| 10:17.50 | raf256 | rat_poison: it happened suddenly on two PCs, one unstable one testing |
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| 10:18.06 | raf256 | the testing takes apt data from apt-proxy on the unstable |
| 10:18.15 | rat_poison | help \O/ two people need help here. |
| 10:18.18 | raf256 | I updated the key as dpkg told me |
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| 10:18.27 | raf256 | actually I think THAT started the problem |
| 10:18.30 | Akbar | those taskbar items without a border look smooth :P |
| 10:18.43 | rat_poison | http://lists.debian.org/deity/2005/06/msg00246.html |
| 10:18.48 | ephracis | Akbar: well, I have a bunch of things I want to change, mostly application specific, thou. But I like it a lot more then gnome. But I would guess that's just because I'm used to it. |
| 10:18.54 | rat_poison | raf256 http://lists.debian.org/deity/2005/06/msg00246.html |
| 10:19.02 | ephracis | Akbar: yeah, you can make it look really nice. |
| 10:19.22 | Akbar | but I do like kaffeine and amarok |
| 10:19.33 | rat_poison | hjey that''s unfair, if everyone agrees there is no flamewar by definition. |
| 10:19.39 | rat_poison | freelancer, ?? |
| 10:19.48 | raf256 | rat_poison: huh? |
| 10:19.56 | ephracis | Akbar: amarok istheshit. :D |
| 10:19.57 | rat_poison | read that thread raf256 |
| 10:19.58 | raf256 | rat_poison: but Im not building anything, Im merly doing apt-get install |
| 10:20.14 | freelancer | rat im waiting for openssl to make...openssh said I should have it...so doing what it said... |
| 10:20.21 | raf256 | rat_poison: how can I make that warning go away then? I do not want to DISABLE authentication to just hide problem |
| 10:21.03 | Akbar | what I don't like about k* is those million audio appz it has.. two or three xmms clones.. |
| 10:21.29 | rat_poison | raf256 that is the best that I could find out. |
| 10:21.34 | rat_poison | its all on google. |
| 10:21.35 | raf256 | that sucks ass. |
| 10:21.48 | raf256 | so debian devels fucked up authentication in apt? are they retarded? |
| 10:21.54 | raf256 | in both testing and unstable? |
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| 10:22.28 | ephracis | Akbar: true, I am happy just with amarok. I like mplayer for movies but right now I am testing kplayer which works fine for me. Never understood the need for juk, noatun, etc. |
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| 10:23.06 | raf256 | other users here have same problem? |
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| 10:23.12 | valdyn | raf256: no |
| 10:23.17 | redluorg | hey guys. how do i get the mac address of my nic in debian? |
| 10:23.20 | raf256 | apt-get in testing, unstable, reports that packages are not authenticated? |
| 10:23.28 | valdyn | raf256: no |
| 10:23.28 | rat_poison | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174 try this raf256 |
| 10:23.28 | raf256 | valdyn: you have testing and no such problem? |
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| 10:23.35 | valdyn | raf256: correct |
| 10:23.50 | raf256 | so perhaps I should report a bug if its not well known / reproducable yet |
| 10:24.32 | rat_poison | raf256 try this also http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-07/99index.html |
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| 10:26.02 | raf256 | rat_poison: I had got key 4F368D5D already. |
| 10:26.32 | raf256 | the one mentioned in 1st link |
| 10:27.57 | raf256 | but that hides the problem, not solves. |
| 10:28.25 | stoned | oh good lord |
| 10:28.31 | stoned | raf256 is back again |
| 10:28.37 | freelancer | makes me wonder if I really need this |
| 10:28.43 | raf256 | stoned: what the fuck? |
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| 10:28.43 | rat_poison | yes. if you read the thread carefully, it says that the behaviour of apt has changed. |
| 10:28.46 | rat_poison | that is all. |
| 10:28.51 | Ugly_Duck | lineakd was nice |
| 10:29.02 | rat_poison | freelancer, ?? |
| 10:29.22 | raf256 | rat_poison: yes I see that, so now apt-get can't authenticate packaes? I dont like this change |
| 10:29.25 | stoned | <raf256> so debian devels fucked up authentication in apt? are they retarded? <-- You are a very rude person and you have no manners whatsoever |
| 10:29.49 | raf256 | stoned: it is helpfull to point out mistakes, so ones can fix them |
| 10:29.52 | rat_poison | careful. |
| 10:29.52 | callee | is there an elegant way to completeley erase a dvd-rw? |
| 10:30.04 | stoned | raf256, just watch yourself, thats all I am saying |
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| 10:30.08 | rat_poison | callee, I am getting naughty ideas. |
| 10:30.10 | callee | i mean something like cat >/dev/zero > /dev/cdrom? |
| 10:30.14 | freelancer | rat_poison openssl, ?? |
| 10:30.19 | pbrook | raf256: Only if you're too dumb to install the proper keys. |
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| 10:30.23 | freelancer | lol |
| 10:30.26 | callee | rat_poison: i need to delete old backups |
| 10:30.31 | raf256 | pbrook: I installed them already, as I said. |
| 10:30.33 | rat_poison | freelancer, so you are still waiting for the openssl thing? |
| 10:30.36 | rat_poison | do you run a webserver? |
| 10:30.37 | callee | and if i means delete, i mean delete! |
| 10:30.43 | callee | not recoverable |
| 10:30.57 | raf256 | pbrook: all as in /msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 10:30.58 | freelancer | rm -rf |
| 10:30.58 | callee | i could write dev random into an iso file, but isnt there something smarter? |
| 10:31.05 | callee | freelancer: on a cdrom? |
| 10:31.05 | freelancer | rat_poison sure am |
| 10:31.17 | stoned | raf256, you couldn't make x11vnc work and you insulted and disrespect all the devs and other helpful people and including insulting debian last night as well, until someone spoonfed you and showd you step by step what to do. |
| 10:31.19 | rat_poison | ooh! freelancer. |
| 10:31.24 | stoned | raf256, you should be ashamed of yourself |
| 10:32.05 | pbrook | callee: cdrecord blank=all. |
| 10:32.14 | freelancer | callee Im being silly...but does it work? |
| 10:32.45 | pbrook | If that isn't sufficient, I find a cobination of blowtorch and sledgehammer are effective. |
| 10:32.55 | stoned | lol |
| 10:33.14 | callee | freelancer: of course not |
| 10:33.16 | freelancer | yay it finished...now make test |
| 10:33.26 | SonnyBurnett | whats thr replace for w32codecs in etch? |
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| 10:33.58 | freelancer | I thought it was too good to be true |
| 10:34.08 | stoned | SonnyBurnett, apt-cache search microsoft |
| 10:34.15 | stoned | perhaps, or mplayer |
| 10:34.32 | stoned | if think those keywords are still in the description of the package |
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| 10:34.39 | stoned | that should get you the name |
| 10:35.39 | raf256 | stoned: no |
| 10:35.45 | raf256 | stoned: VNC is not too well documented |
| 10:35.57 | raf256 | stoned: and tehere are pitfalls in wich one might run into. |
| 10:36.08 | rat_poison | freelancer, generally bible/khoran will help |
| 10:36.11 | raf256 | still VNC should not crash when using xorg-module-startup method, should it/ |
| 10:36.48 | freelancer | ? |
| 10:36.51 | raf256 | anyway, ok, calmly |
| 10:36.51 | stoned | I am not going to get into an argument with you again, I said what I had to say. |
| 10:37.02 | Orion-1 | Hey guys. Is it at all possible to run Unstable apps in an other wise Stable system? I would like to use the XEN packages from sid.. |
| 10:37.03 | rat_poison | raf256, stoned I startxed a flamer war between KDE and GNOME. Why are you hijacking it eh! |
| 10:37.07 | ephracis | raf256`: is there anything that _should_ crash? |
| 10:37.20 | raf256 | I installed the 2006 keys as dpkg said. Still, I'm getting "unauthenticated" error, any idea why>? |
| 10:37.29 | rat_poison | Orion-1, you should only worry about the dependencies. |
| 10:37.33 | raf256 | and - how to _fix_ it, not how to just disable the warning |
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| 10:38.21 | stoned | you know if you read the docs for the related apps, find out how the procedure works maybe try reading for a change you might learn something |
| 10:38.25 | callee | ok, i am going to use the secure way |
| 10:38.58 | callee | 1MB random data and create a 4,5GB image from that and burn this image. |
| 10:39.15 | pbrook | callee: I doubt that's any more secure than doing a full erase. |
| 10:39.55 | callee | pbrook: thats true but afaik a dvd-rw only tolerates very few formats |
| 10:39.55 | azeem | raf256: did you run apt-get update? |
| 10:39.55 | pbrook | callee: So? |
| 10:39.56 | callee | and dvds cannot be erased in the classical way |
| 10:39.59 | raf256 | azeem: yes |
| 10:40.07 | raf256 | azeem: although I have a apt-proxy here |
| 10:40.17 | callee | pbrook: they tolerate way more overwrites than formats |
| 10:40.31 | callee | overwrite ~100 format ~10 |
| 10:40.33 | azeem | raf256: what does apt-key list say? |
| 10:40.42 | Orion-1 | rat_poison, alright.. I am worrying about them.. Do you have any pointers in how to actually going about doing it? |
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| 10:40.47 | raf256 | azeem: about what packet? |
| 10:40.50 | ephracis | callee: I still vote for the blowtorch and sledgehammer. :-) |
| 10:40.50 | ircdevil | sup |
| 10:40.57 | raf256 | ohm |
| 10:40.59 | Orion-1 | rat_poison, I mean, installing unstable apps in arge |
| 10:41.20 | pbrook | callee: Wel, that implies that a format is more reliable than writing random data. |
| 10:41.21 | rat_poison | Orion-1, I tried something like that a long time back. And I had an awful time fixing the problems. |
| 10:41.24 | ircdevil | i need to get this brother colorprinter workking under cups. cups work with my other printer, but this is a new printer. i am missing something |
| 10:41.29 | raf256 | azeem: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=15501 |
| 10:41.37 | ircdevil | drivers |
| 10:41.37 | rat_poison | there is a very good reason these packages are separated. |
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| 10:42.00 | azeem | raf256: also paste the error you're still seeing |
| 10:42.09 | azeem | (which is probably bogus) |
| 10:42.21 | pbrook | Orion-1: In practice there are sufficiently many dependensies that you have to use packages all from the same release. |
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| 10:42.42 | Orion-1 | pbrook, rat_poison.. well, thanks guys |
| 10:42.50 | pbrook | Orion-1: If you wnt newer software on an old release you need to use backported. eg. backports.org |
| 10:42.50 | callee | pbrook: dunno maybe. however perhaps only some sectors are more often overwritten during format (like filesystem information or so) |
| 10:42.51 | rat_poison | Orion-1, I did it lke this : changed the stable to unstable in sources.lst and then apt-get update; apt-get install; and undo the change s in the file |
| 10:42.58 | Orion-1 | pbrook, rat_poison.. I guess I'm stuck with using the Source distribution of Xen then.... |
| 10:43.07 | ircdevil | coool brother have a debian driver on their homepage |
| 10:43.28 | raf256 | azeem: oooh |
| 10:43.34 | raf256 | azeem: the error is only is Synaptic. |
| 10:43.42 | raf256 | azeem: apt-get dont show no such problem |
| 10:43.58 | callee | however its ok with me if somebody who gets unauthorized access to those former backup-dvds can see the filenames as long as the content is not available any more as "backup$hostname$date.tar.gz will not hurt me if publically available :) |
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| 10:44.06 | raf256 | azeem: how to make shure is this warning not jusr suppresed in apt-get? |
| 10:44.12 | callee | al long as it's just the name |
| 10:44.27 | azeem | raf256: hrm? |
| 10:44.30 | ircdevil | hrm ERROR : Brother LPD filter is not installed. |
| 10:44.40 | azeem | raf256: did you run synaptic's refresh command? |
| 10:44.46 | raf256 | azeem: yes |
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| 10:45.16 | FreshPrince | Hi @ all |
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| 10:46.38 | raf256 | after _few_ refreshes the problem gone away in synaptic as well |
| 10:46.50 | raf256 | hmm I thought synaptic should behave identlica to apt-get... |
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| 10:47.30 | rat_poison | so your key problem has gone away raf256 |
| 10:47.39 | freelancer | hrmm...annoying, doesn't say what version of zlib it needs... |
| 10:47.40 | callee | whats the actual maxsize of an iso image to burn onto a 4,7GB dvd? |
| 10:48.19 | callee | i tried 4.5GB but it seems to bee too big |
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| 10:48.42 | Eclipser | around 4.3-4.4GB? :) |
| 10:48.43 | IlyesGouta | Hi! |
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| 10:48.52 | IlyesGouta | I'm new to the Linux world.. |
| 10:48.56 | ircdevil | anyone know where to get the brother ldp filter? is that something on brothers homepage? |
| 10:49.08 | rat_poison | IlyesGouta, ... all the best. |
| 10:49.12 | ephracis | IlyesGouta: welcome then. :) |
| 10:49.31 | IlyesGouta | Some friends told me to install Fedora and some others recommended Debian.. |
| 10:49.33 | tralala | IlyesGouta: get ready for lots of documentation reading! |
| 10:49.47 | raf256 | rat_poison: yes |
| 10:49.59 | IlyesGouta | ephracis, tralala, thanks! |
| 10:50.02 | rat_poison | IlyesGouta, god save you if you install Fedora. (Flamewar anyone??) |
| 10:50.18 | rat_poison | you must use Ubuntu if you are completely new to gnu/linux world. |
| 10:50.22 | IlyesGouta | what's the difference between them? |
| 10:50.35 | ephracis | tralala: yeah, good advice. :P |
| 10:50.37 | IlyesGouta | ubuntu? |
| 10:50.38 | rat_poison | Ubuntu is a little easier to use. Gives you lesser options. |
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| 10:51.17 | raf256 | ubuntu have by default dissabled root |
| 10:51.25 | IlyesGouta | so, why it would be better than fedora, debian? |
| 10:51.28 | rat_poison | www.ubuntu.com |
| 10:51.32 | raf256 | which is a bit confusing for other linux users but its not too big problems |
| 10:51.32 | evaded | IlyesGouta: I can suggest you to try to do '/msg dpkg why debian' |
| 10:51.39 | ephracis | IlyesGouta: ubuntu has not enough packages IMHO but as they said, it's easier for a new guy. |
| 10:51.51 | rat_poison | this is a starnge thing, but lesser choices mean better systems. |
| 10:51.52 | raf256 | IlyesGouta: perhaps use ubuntu for a month, then install real debian |
| 10:51.59 | IlyesGouta | evaded, I type that in this window? |
| 10:52.08 | evaded | IlyesGouta: Yes |
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| 10:52.11 | tralala | IlyesGouta: why don't you try them all and see for yourself what you would like best? |
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| 10:52.34 | ephracis | rat_poison: depends on what you want, and I want options. |
| 10:52.39 | rat_poison | tralala, that would mean he understands gnu/linux in the first place. |
| 10:52.45 | evaded | IlyesGouta: An new window will be open, and dpkg(the robot) will thell you some things about 'why debian' |
| 10:52.47 | IlyesGouta | evaded, I got a new window... |
| 10:52.48 | rat_poison | ephracis, that is exactl what I said. |
| 10:52.56 | rat_poison | it is strange. |
| 10:52.59 | evaded | IlyesGouta: Yes ;-) |
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| 10:53.05 | ircdevil | aaargh! |
| 10:53.07 | hjb | hi, i've got debian etch here with a 2.6.15 kernel and i need to pass an option to the libata module |
| 10:53.28 | callee | i guess its 4500MB |
| 10:53.29 | Eclipser | callee, 4.38 GiB |
| 10:53.32 | callee | sounds reasonable |
| 10:53.39 | evaded | IlyesGouta: Look good |
| 10:53.54 | ephracis | rat_poison: didn't you say that lesser options means better systems? I disagree with that. |
| 10:53.54 | evaded | !tell IlyesGouta -about help |
| 10:53.58 | evaded | !tell IlyesGouta -about selftell |
| 10:54.01 | callee | Eclipser: you are right, i remember that number |
| 10:54.01 | hjb | i've tried to add the option to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and run update-initramfs -u |
| 10:54.10 | hjb | but that doesn't work |
| 10:54.13 | rat_poison | ephracis, you are entitled to your opinion. |
| 10:54.14 | callee | 4485 |
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| 10:54.24 | evaded | IlyesGouta: I bombard you a bit, but that's an good point to begin ;-) |
| 10:54.32 | evaded | IlyesGouta: I mean the docs ;-) |
| 10:54.38 | Eclipser | callee, 4482.27MiB actually :) |
| 10:54.41 | ephracis | rat_poison: of course, but I was interested in why you think that way. :-) |
| 10:54.55 | callee | Eclipser: i will overburn the rest :) |
| 10:55.00 | Eclipser | :) |
| 10:55.14 | rat_poison | my experience has been that if I give a lot of options to people, 90% would hate me. |
| 10:55.28 | rat_poison | I trust the 'less is more' concept. |
| 10:55.31 | callee | 4,700,000,000 bytes |
| 10:55.37 | dorel__ | how do i save a file with wget to a specific location? |
| 10:55.44 | Eclipser | callee, in decimal |
| 10:55.53 | rat_poison | err... that was ephracis |
| 10:56.09 | callee | Eclipser: no, in bytes :) |
| 10:56.16 | Eclipser | decimal :) |
| 10:56.22 | freelancer | no in binary |
| 10:56.29 | hjb | dmesg always says: ata2(0): WARNING: ATAPI is disabled, device ignored. |
| 10:56.30 | ephracis | rat_poison: well, many options will confuse and often cause problems for new people. But once you understand things better you can use the extra configurability to create a better configed system then a system without the options. |
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| 10:56.34 | IlyesGouta | evaded, Thank you very much! |
| 10:56.49 | hjb | so my dvd doesn't work which is not good |
| 10:56.49 | resync | anyone knows what's the default ip to 3com superstack switch @ default setting? |
| 10:56.50 | IlyesGouta | evaded, I'm reading :) |
| 10:56.53 | Eclipser | they're sold as 4.7GB discs which is in decimal, and is around 4.38GiB in binary |
| 10:56.56 | rat_poison | and exactly how many people are new and how many are l33t? |
| 10:56.56 | evaded | IlyesGouta: You're welcome :-) |
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| 10:57.13 | rat_poison | btw ephracis if you did not notice... I am in the debian channel, not the ubuntu :) |
| 10:57.25 | frederickc | how can I get Samba to work on KDE |
| 10:57.28 | ephracis | rat_poison: haha, true. :D |
| 10:57.41 | rat_poison | I hope that would clear certain things. |
| 10:57.45 | Eclipser | rat_poison, www.saunalahti.fi/~jukka712/shirt2.jpg ! |
| 10:58.15 | hjb | it's just that i don't want to rebuild the kernel only to be able to pass the option to the kernel by the bootloader |
| 10:58.16 | ephracis | yeah, I guess.. |
| 10:58.21 | evaded | frederickc: samba the filesharing?? |
| 10:58.25 | rat_poison | and I am a game devhehe |
| 10:58.36 | rat_poison | Eclipser, I love that t-shirt, where can I get one? |
| 10:58.39 | hjb | isn't it possible to tell mkinitramfs what options to use for which modules? |
| 10:58.41 | frederickc | yes Samba filesharing |
| 10:58.43 | ephracis | rat_poison: what kind of games? |
| 10:58.46 | Eclipser | rat_poison, shop.machinaesupremacy.com |
| 10:58.51 | enouf | callee 4,700,000,000 / 1,073,741,824 = 4.377216100692749 GiB |
| 10:58.59 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, why I see like flashing when I put video in full screen in gxine? |
| 10:59.00 | evaded | frederickc: Try to ask to dpkg '/msg dpkg samba' |
| 10:59.01 | frederickc | evaded: it is easy to work on Gnome but KDE i don't see how |
| 10:59.10 | rat_poison | ephracis, console video games :( |
| 10:59.28 | callee | or 4482,2693MBytes |
| 10:59.36 | evaded | frederickc: What mean you exaclty? If it's already setup, it's setup, no ? |
| 10:59.52 | rat_poison | Eclipser, omfg!! That is incredibly costly. |
| 11:00.07 | Eclipser | it is :o |
| 11:00.14 | ephracis | rat_poison: nice. One things I've always wondered is how do you get the API doc for console? Do you buy them? |
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| 11:00.34 | hjb | '/msg dpkg mkinitramfs' also doesn't do the trick :) |
| 11:00.38 | rat_poison | consoles generally have documentation provided by the console manufacturer. |
| 11:00.38 | frederickc | evaded; yes it's set up but trying to figure out what package uses it, Komba didn't work |
| 11:00.44 | rat_poison | SONY, M$, Nintendo |
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| 11:01.00 | rat_poison | I am working on SONY, M$ |
| 11:01.10 | Readon | where would i get the .config for debian image deb package? |
| 11:01.14 | rat_poison | plz dont flame me :( |
| 11:01.17 | evaded | frederickc: With 'konqueror'?? |
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| 11:01.25 | ephracis | rat_poison: oh, so you know anything of programming for 360 and PS3 then? |
| 11:01.40 | SonnyBurnett | Is it possible to install mplayer in debian etch? |
| 11:01.50 | rat_poison | yeah. currently working on 360, PS3 a little later. |
| 11:02.05 | ephracis | rat_poison: anything for psp? |
| 11:02.14 | cahoot | SonnyBurnett: try /msg dpkg marillat |
| 11:02.15 | evaded | frederickc: I have found what 'komba2' is now, i not know about it ;-) |
| 11:02.15 | dorel__ | any ideas if its possible to get bittorrent (native debian package) to run in the background as a process? |
| 11:02.16 | rat_poison | I did not work on PSP, but some other people worked on it. |
| 11:02.23 | ephracis | rat_poison: i heard that 360 is really nice to work on, is that true? |
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| 11:02.57 | rat_poison | as long as no one is going to flame me... yes 360 much better than PS3. I do not have much exp with PS3 but read a few manuals. |
| 11:02.58 | ephracis | rat_poison: I've never been into gameprogramming but it sure sounds nice to program for a console, where everyone have the same hardware. |
| 11:02.59 | thelogicbox | what's up debian freaks! |
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| 11:03.14 | frederickc | evaded: u know the my computer thing that gnome has, I am able to access windows computers from that |
| 11:03.15 | rat_poison | ephracis, .... that is a true gnu/linux guy talking :Ld |
| 11:03.31 | rat_poison | thelogicbox, ... long list, number of bugs, number of crashes and cost of living |
| 11:03.48 | ephracis | haha |
| 11:03.55 | evaded | frederickc: I not know about Gnome, i'm still an Fluxbox user :-) |
| 11:03.57 | thelogicbox | cost of living? |
| 11:04.20 | rat_poison | cost of living is up man. thelogicbox dont you see it all around you? |
| 11:04.28 | rat_poison | the prices of petrol have gone up. |
| 11:04.39 | rat_poison | it has a ripple effect on everything around you. |
| 11:04.41 | ephracis | but they can go higher imo. |
| 11:04.43 | maxxle | Is there a tool to record X-Events? |
| 11:04.46 | rat_poison | dont get me started about cost of living ok. |
| 11:04.49 | Readon | where would i get the .config for debian image deb package? |
| 11:04.51 | azeem | maxxle: xev? |
| 11:05.01 | azeem | Readon: in /boot |
| 11:05.09 | azeem | Readon: or inside the image .deb |
| 11:05.09 | rat_poison | ephracis, you maggot. you are with the oil mafia arent you |
| 11:05.11 | zirikili | where do I configure params for my modules? |
| 11:05.22 | azeem | zirikili: /etc/modprobe.d |
| 11:05.28 | thelogicbox | i'm in the military we get cost of living increases |
| 11:05.35 | maxxle | azeem: Do you know more recorders? |
| 11:05.42 | Readon | azeem: do you mean the .config file for kernel building? |
| 11:05.45 | ephracis | rat_poison: nah, I think people should stop using that damn oil. Use anti-matter reactors instead. :D |
| 11:06.00 | zirikili | azeem: what file? aliases? |
| 11:06.00 | azeem | Readon: yes, what do you mean? |
| 11:06.03 | frederickc | evaded: i'm going to log out and go into gnome in that case, |
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| 11:06.12 | rat_poison | ephracis, and I am supposed to assume its a solution. hmm. |
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| 11:06.19 | evaded | frederickc: I have ... |
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| 11:06.27 | azeem | zirikili: man modprobe.conf |
| 11:06.33 | Readon | azeem: i find it, thank you |
| 11:06.50 | evaded | just install it an go to try it, but like you are an 'quick' boy, you get not the bonus :-/ |
| 11:06.52 | rat_poison | ephracis, do you have one of those anti-matter drives? Could you lend me one? |
| 11:06.56 | zirikili | azeem: thank you |
| 11:07.00 | ephracis | rat_poison: seriously we should stop using the oil. It's gonna go away and we better raise the price until people start to use something better. |
| 11:07.10 | rat_poison | I am sure it would be a g33k's best orgasm. |
| 11:07.16 | ephracis | rat_poison: yeah, but patent pending! :D |
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| 11:07.50 | rat_poison | ephracis, hmm. I agree about the prices. |
| 11:07.54 | ephracis | so i trust you not to steal stuff. ;) |
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| 11:07.58 | rat_poison | you know Ethanol could help a lot. |
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| 11:08.13 | SlayerXP | ethanol always helps |
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| 11:08.28 | rat_poison | SlayerXP, drunken driving is not good. |
| 11:08.32 | thelogicbox | sugar cane ethanol is 2x better than corn |
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| 11:08.39 | raf256 | dont drink and drive |
| 11:08.41 | raf256 | smoke and fly |
| 11:08.44 | ephracis | exactly. people complain too much about the high prices. sorry if I sound like some sort of treehugger but the nature has more to complain about then an empty wallet. |
| 11:08.46 | thelogicbox | you might spill your beer |
| 11:08.51 | ephracis | raf256`: haha, true. :D |
| 11:08.56 | raf256 | =) |
| 11:09.12 | thelogicbox | <-- drinkin coors |
| 11:09.29 | aum | hi - i'm trying to use svn with deb/unstable and python2.3, got a repo on an https:// url, svn keeps barfing with "unrecognized url scheme 'https://...'" |
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| 11:10.03 | SonnyBurnett | why I can execute a script? Im doing: "./sh script.sh" and I receive the error "./sh directory or file doesnyt exists" |
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| 11:10.25 | ephracis | SonnyBurnett: just do ./script.sh |
| 11:10.36 | rat_poison | actually SonnyBurnett try bash script.sh |
| 11:11.02 | Readon | azeem: would i specify which module to be compiled? |
| 11:11.08 | rat_poison | if the script.sh is not 'chmod 700' then you cannot execute it. That is unless... I am nuts. |
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| 11:11.32 | ephracis | yeah, power of file permissions in linux. |
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| 11:12.19 | SonnyBurnett | rat_poison, yeahh you where right... |
| 11:12.32 | SonnyBurnett | file permissions |
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| 11:12.48 | rat_poison | an expert is a person who has commmitted all possible mistakes in a field. I dont claim to be an expert, but I have done a lot of mistakes... |
| 11:12.58 | rat_poison | 90% mistakes done, 90% more to go. :) |
| 11:13.02 | hjb | another question: if i can't pass options to the modules loaded in the initramfs, can i change the oder in which modules get loaded? so that the ide module gets loaded before the libata module? |
| 11:13.04 | SonnyBurnett | i must sleep ... My brain is slow.... |
| 11:13.04 | azeem | Readon: what are you trying to do? |
| 11:13.25 | SonnyBurnett | i'm the learning curve |
| 11:13.28 | ephracis | SonnyBurnett: what time is it? |
| 11:13.36 | SonnyBurnett | 6:13am |
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| 11:13.46 | ephracis | oh, that's early. |
| 11:13.47 | nile | rat_poison, do you happen to use ratpoison? |
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| 11:14.12 | rat_poison | nile, I survive on rat poison... somebody teach this n00b how to eat rat poison. |
| 11:14.19 | SonnyBurnett | yeah... little birds are singing ..... |
| 11:14.22 | rat_poison | itsa vanilla flavoured |
| 11:14.27 | Readon | azeem: i just want to update & recompile pktgen(it is too old now) module for myself |
| 11:14.31 | nile | rat_poison, I meant the window manager |
| 11:14.38 | ephracis | SonnyBurnett: which country? |
| 11:14.43 | rat_poison | SonnyBurnett, ... typical "ooohhh sooo romantic" |
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| 11:14.50 | rat_poison | naww. |
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| 11:15.11 | rat_poison | nile, my mouse does not work in gnu/linux, so I was all frustrated. Named myself rat_poison |
| 11:15.14 | SonnyBurnett | rat_poison, naaaa... they warn me that I must go to bed.... |
| 11:15.19 | SonnyBurnett | ephracis, Peru |
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| 11:15.31 | nile | rat_poison, gotcha. get your mouse working? |
| 11:15.52 | rat_poison | SonnyBurnett, good nightish morningish. |
| 11:15.58 | rat_poison | nile, well... nope. |
| 11:16.08 | nile | rat_poison, oh. geez. what's wrong with it? |
| 11:16.12 | SonnyBurnett | lol |
| 11:16.13 | rat_poison | nile seems like there is more to this problem that I initially thought. |
| 11:16.26 | hjb | noone has an idea of what i'm talking about? |
| 11:17.23 | raf256 | Setting up amarok (1.3.9-1) ... |
| 11:17.23 | raf256 | /var/lib/dpkg/info/amarok.postinst: line 11: 13945 Segmentation fault update-desktop-database -q |
| 11:17.31 | raf256 | hmm... I should fill in a bug report? |
| 11:17.49 | ephracis | hjb: afaik they are loaded in the order in which they are mentioned in /etc/modules, someone correct me if I'm wrong. |
| 11:18.06 | rat_poison | something like this- Deb unstable, latest, logitech two button optical mouse with scroll wheel . It used to work earlier and then after an upgrade (xorg 6.9-7.0) my kb died. I struggled a little and fixed it. But then my mouse died. When I plug in the moiuse I get (0xadaf/0xafh) device is not claimed by an active driver. |
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| 11:18.56 | azeem | Readon: look into module-assisstant |
| 11:19.04 | wam | hi! I can't ping localhost - there's no reply. Maybe I set something up a year ago and can't remember. Are there any settings in /proc/* that prevent icmp somehow? |
| 11:19.07 | tarzeau | raf256: did you check if there's none already? |
| 11:19.25 | raf256 | tarzeau: yes, with apt-bug, there was simmilar but was labaled Done |
| 11:19.27 | hjb | thanks, but these ata modules aren't even listed in /etc/modules |
| 11:19.41 | azeem | raf256: do you run the latest version in unstable? |
| 11:19.50 | tarzeau | raf256: what's on line 11 of that amarok.postinst ? |
| 11:19.53 | raf256 | azeem: yes I test it on unstable |
| 11:19.58 | raf256 | tarzeau: where is that file/ |
| 11:20.06 | tarzeau | raf256: it's in the error msg you pasted |
| 11:20.21 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:20.36 | hjb | ephracis: or were you talking about /etc/mkinitramfs/modules ? |
| 11:20.36 | raf256 | I will run it manually then |
| 11:20.37 | maxxle | azeem: FYI - I found a tool that can be used to test X Events.... Xnee |
| 11:20.37 | Readon | azeem: do you mean document in kernel tree? |
| 11:20.42 | tarzeau | raf256: what ses dpkg -S `which update-desktop-database` |
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| 11:20.58 | tarzeau | raf256: no check to which package it belongs, the bug is in that package |
| 11:21.09 | tarzeau | raf256: run it verbose -x for shell scripts |
| 11:21.17 | raf256 | tarzeau: running that update manually works fine |
| 11:21.19 | tarzeau | raf256: and see where it fails |
| 11:21.23 | ephracis | hjb: yeah, sorry about that. |
| 11:21.34 | tarzeau | raf256: funny |
| 11:21.39 | ephracis | hjb: you found them in there? |
| 11:21.42 | azeem | Readon: no, that is a package |
| 11:21.50 | raf256 | tarzeau: I will try to install again |
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| 11:21.57 | hjb | ephrarics: not really, that file is empty |
| 11:22.10 | ephracis | hjb: but your modules load correctly? |
| 11:22.18 | azeem | raf256: look how it gets invoked in the amarok postinst |
| 11:22.36 | raf256 | azeem: identicly |
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| 11:22.41 | SonnyBurnett | byeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 11:22.50 | rat_poison | byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee SonnyBurnett |
| 11:22.51 | hjb | ephrarics: yeah. i guess it's because of the line MODULES=most in /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf |
| 11:23.13 | blaheva | Can I paste 3 lines in here without getting tag'd for flooding? |
| 11:23.31 | blaheva | #!/bin/sh -e |
| 11:23.31 | blaheva | # |
| 11:23.31 | blaheva | # Start VNC Start VNC |
| 11:23.31 | blaheva | PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
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| 11:23.44 | raf256 | blacke: that more then 3 =) |
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| 11:24.03 | raf256 | tarzeau: it worked now |
| 11:24.16 | ephracis | hjb: then I can't help you. :/ |
| 11:24.20 | raf256 | tarzeau: ok, so it is not reproduciable bug... where should I report it, to amarok or to |
| 11:24.25 | rat_poison | I guess even 3 lines is a bad thing. |
| 11:24.32 | blaheva | I'm still trying to get a script executed at startup |
| 11:24.34 | raf256 | this is a bug in: desktop-file-utils: /usr/bin/update-desktop-database ? |
| 11:24.47 | blaheva | I've done exeactly what dpkg startup says |
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| 11:25.26 | blaheva | would someone be wiling to message me prvately to help? |
| 11:25.33 | hjb | ephrarics: :( i could use MODULES=list and then use only the filess in modules, but i'm not sure which modules are needed in that stage of the boot process |
| 11:26.39 | ephracis | hjb: one way to find out is through trial and error. |
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| 11:27.44 | ephracis | hjb: I find that method more interesting then searching for the answer. A little less boring. ;) |
| 11:28.24 | hjb | ephracis: Thanks ;) What a luck i have a parellel slackware installed which i can can boot into to fix my broken debia *duck and run* |
| 11:28.45 | ephracis | nice. |
| 11:28.52 | ephracis | good luck |
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| 11:29.14 | tarzeau | raf256: where to it belongs: desktop-file-utils |
| 11:29.46 | hjb | thanks so far. have a nice day :) |
| 11:29.50 | raf256 | tarzeau: I reported it there |
| 11:30.03 | liable | blaheva: does the script work when you run it manually? |
| 11:30.16 | tarzeau | raf256: with a patch? |
| 11:30.30 | Readon | azeem: module-assistant seems have no pktgen package support |
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| 11:30.40 | raf256 | tarzeau: nah I didnt even got a core of it to debug :/ |
| 11:30.47 | raf256 | perhaps I should reenable core dumps |
| 11:30.53 | tarzeau | raf256: it's not just a shell script? |
| 11:31.09 | raf256 | tarzeau: no, the script only lunches update-desktop... |
| 11:31.25 | blaheva | liable, yes |
| 11:31.28 | tarzeau | raf256: interesting |
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| 11:31.31 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.41 | liable | blaheva: man update-rc.d then |
| 11:31.56 | liable | blaheva: it has examples |
| 11:32.00 | tarzeau | raf256: and if you look at the source of it? |
| 11:33.07 | liable | blaheva: or paste the output of ls /etc/rc2.d to #flood |
| 11:33.14 | liable | ls -l |
| 11:33.26 | raf256 | tarzeau: source of that program? I dont feel I have now time to patch it |
| 11:33.31 | blaheva | join flood |
| 11:33.33 | raf256 | I generally hate working with not-mine code |
| 11:33.39 | raf256 | (sometimes even with mine... ;) |
| 11:33.45 | tarzeau | raf256: i see. it's probably just something small |
| 11:33.56 | raf256 | well too bad I didn't catch core |
| 11:34.02 | raf256 | I must buy new hdd |
| 11:34.23 | tarzeau | raf256: it's sunny here |
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| 11:36.38 | Reptilutz | How i can save data bases postgresql? |
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| 11:39.18 | FreshPrince | stoned Hi =) |
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| 11:42.59 | pavlix | hi people |
| 11:43.05 | ski__ | how to preserve file times with scp ? |
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| 11:45.11 | ski__ | (more specifically, creation time) |
| 11:45.44 | blondie | ski__: what filesystem are you using |
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| 11:46.08 | ski__ | blondie : ext2 |
| 11:46.26 | blondie | ext2 doesn't store creation timestamps |
| 11:46.29 | ski__ | (err, copying into ext2, from reiserfs) |
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| 11:46.36 | blondie | neither does reiserfs |
| 11:46.41 | ski__ | hm |
| 11:46.44 | blondie | so there is nothing to preserve |
| 11:46.52 | ski__ | i assumed 'ctime' was creation time |
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| 11:47.20 | freelancer | seeyas next time |
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| 11:47.57 | freelancer | places to be tomorrow, rather earlier unfortuneatly |
| 11:47.58 | raf256 | anyone tried recording VNC into .avi .mpeg or whatever? |
| 11:48.00 | blondie | ski__: ctime just means a time in unix format i.e. seconds since 1970-01-01 00:00:00 GMT |
| 11:48.33 | blondie | for files it means modified |
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| 11:49.45 | cahoot | ctime refers to changes made to the file's inode (such as changing permissions, etc). mtime refers to changes to the data within the file - not? |
| 11:49.46 | blondie | ski__: or apparently "10 ctime inode change time (NOT creation time!) in Unix time format" |
| 11:50.09 | ski__ | hm, actually, i'm stupid, i have ext3, not ext2 .. how about ext3 ? |
| 11:50.19 | blondie | nope |
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| 11:50.27 | blondie | hardly an unix FSes store them |
| 11:51.01 | blondie | *any |
| 11:51.12 | azeem | ext2 stores it, AFAIK |
| 11:51.17 | azeem | but coreutils doesn't use that |
| 11:52.08 | toblerp | why is ian murdock on the nm list??! |
| 11:52.23 | azeem | toblerp: because he applied |
| 11:52.32 | ski__ | if i do 'ls -l myfile' i get earlier date than 'ls -l --time=ctime myfile' |
| 11:53.11 | eleftherios | does anyone know if there is an event notification daemon, something that say, let's you enter an event for a certain date and then notifies you on that date (via email for example)? |
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| 11:53.12 | toblerp | azeem: how come he isn'T approved? |
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| 11:53.21 | azeem | toblerp: I don't know |
| 11:53.40 | pavlix | hi people... |
| 11:53.43 | cahoot | eleftherios: atd? |
| 11:53.45 | azeem | toblerp: I think it is because he does not maintain any packages curretnly |
| 11:53.46 | pavlix | I'm on debian unstable... |
| 11:53.55 | blondie | ski__: I get later for some files, earlier for others, but most are the same |
| 11:53.56 | pavlix | and when I run glxgears |
| 11:54.02 | pavlix | it gives no output |
| 11:54.59 | blondie | ski__: it's not the creation date though |
| 11:55.01 | pavlix | with xorg 7.0 |
| 11:55.06 | ski__ | blondie : hm, 'man ls' says 'ctime' is 'status change' time .. |
| 11:55.27 | ski__ | .. is this when meta-info was changed ? |
| 11:55.49 | eleftherios | cahoot, hm...perhaps |
| 11:56.02 | blondie | inode status change |
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| 11:57.22 | ski__ | blondie : ok, ty fyi |
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| 12:00.49 | eleftherios | cahoot, thank you |
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| 12:03.42 | xto | nobody? |
| 12:04.18 | ski__ | ? |
| 12:05.35 | xto | ;).fakeroot make-jpkg java-package is error,why?who help me? |
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| 12:06.21 | ephracis | xto: can you be more specific? What does the error say? |
| 12:06.54 | FreshPrince | u wanna install debian.. but how many cd's i need to installe it? i think not all cd's.. but how many should i download and burn?.. |
| 12:07.01 | FreshPrince | ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 12:07.12 | ephracis | FreshPrince: one is enough if you have an internet connection. |
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| 12:07.24 | FreshPrince | ephracis: yes i have,.. ok then i download one :) |
| 12:07.32 | gnd | hi |
| 12:07.48 | ephracis | FreshPrince: yeah, the rest of the cds are just extra packages but you can get them from the net instead. |
| 12:07.58 | gnd | can someone do me a favor and check, if http://gnd.etree.org is working? |
| 12:08.08 | FreshPrince | ephracis: ok.. that one right? _-> ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r2-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 12:08.09 | xto | apt-install java-package can`t setup |
| 12:08.24 | abrotman | apt-get install java-package |
| 12:08.29 | abrotman | and you need contrib sources |
| 12:08.32 | ephracis | FreshPrince: yeah, that seems to be the one. :) |
| 12:08.40 | FreshPrince | ephracis: ok thx =) |
| 12:08.44 | ephracis | np |
| 12:08.54 | abrotman | !d-i FreshPrince |
| 12:08.54 | dpkg | FreshPrince, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 12:09.13 | ski__ | gnd : seems to load .. |
| 12:09.13 | FreshPrince | ok |
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| 12:09.27 | gnd | ski__: thanks! how about www.megethos.com? |
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| 12:09.48 | gnd | I've been having some router problems |
| 12:10.00 | Zvpun | how can I list all manual alterternatives (update-alternatives) |
| 12:10.14 | abrotman | man update-alternatives .. doesn't say ? |
| 12:10.28 | hellangel | hi guys |
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| 12:10.52 | hellangel | Zvpun, /etc/alternatives |
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| 12:11.26 | ski__ | gnd : that one too |
| 12:11.33 | abrotman | i think he wants to know which alternatives are available |
| 12:11.49 | Zvpun | hellangel: how does that list only the manual alternatives? |
| 12:12.31 | Zvpun | I want to know which alternatives are not on auto. I never changed them but some (eg rmic) are set to manual and the manpage for rmic points to nothing |
| 12:12.39 | RvGaTe | Wich packages are used for downloading from usenet |
| 12:13.07 | abrotman | pan is one |
| 12:13.07 | Zvpun | abrotman: I didnt find that maybe I missed it but I am not sure. |
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| 12:13.25 | abrotman | Zvpun: you want to list all the options for say ... "www-browser" alternative ? |
| 12:13.40 | Zvpun | no, I want to list all alternatives that are not set to auto |
| 12:14.05 | abrotman | which ones are set to auto ? |
| 12:14.06 | Zvpun | I dont know why some alternatives changed to manual, I didn't do that, and I want to reset them all to auto |
| 12:14.13 | abrotman | oh |
| 12:14.15 | Zvpun | basically all packages are set to auto |
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| 12:14.42 | Zvpun | so cron found that ../man/rmic.1.gz is a dead link. I tracked it down to rmic set to manual |
| 12:14.55 | Zvpun | I dont know how that happend. I am sure I did never touch alternatives for rmic. |
| 12:14.58 | gnd | ski__: thank you ver y much! |
| 12:15.17 | pavlix | hi people, do you know why glxgears don't display ani information to me? Xorg 7.0, ati radeon graphics, nforce2 mohterboard |
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| 12:15.37 | abrotman | pavlix: beileve it was a bug .. check the BTS |
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| 12:15.56 | pavlix | abrotman: bug on glxgears? |
| 12:16.06 | abrotman | the package that provdies it |
| 12:16.52 | pavlix | oh i see |
| 12:18.25 | abrotman | Zvpun: i'd guess you're going to need a for loop to process them all :) |
| 12:19.01 | Zvpun | abrotman: that sucks. And I would like to know WHO changed them.. |
| 12:19.02 | FreshPrince | abrotman: i dont know that i should install debian or not.. :( |
| 12:19.19 | abrotman | Zvpun: NFC ... |
| 12:19.30 | abrotman | FreshPrince: only you can decide ... |
| 12:19.39 | Zvpun | abrotman: NFC? |
| 12:19.44 | abrotman | Zvpun: i'm not sure why it'd be set to manual either |
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| 12:19.45 | abrotman | !nfc |
| 12:19.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 12:19.47 | nile | FreshPrince, if you want, I could decide |
| 12:19.55 | Zvpun | I see |
| 12:20.38 | eleftherios | the mail utility doesn't send emails. I am trying to run dpkg-reconfigure exim4 but I get no output. Any pointers please? |
| 12:20.48 | FreshPrince | abrotman: hmhm... is debian realx good?.. because my fisrt distro was ubuntu.. now i have gentoo.. |
| 12:21.05 | FreshPrince | abrotman: and i want another distro on my second harddisk |
| 12:21.19 | abrotman | FreshPrince: i've been using it since .. uhm ... 1998 or something |
| 12:21.33 | SlayerXP | abrotman: you n00b, you |
| 12:21.36 | nile | eleftherios, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config should do the trick |
| 12:21.41 | eleftherios | nile, ah |
| 12:21.45 | eleftherios | nile, thanks |
| 12:21.53 | FreshPrince | abrotman: ohh.. not bad.. u try any other distros? |
| 12:21.54 | nile | eleftherios, yeah, we like to hide that kind of stuff ;) |
| 12:22.00 | abrotman | SlayerXP: sadly .. i can't even remember when it was .. might have been right after slink's release .. |
| 12:22.07 | abrotman | FreshPrince: yes .. they suck! :) |
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| 12:22.19 | FreshPrince | lol |
| 12:22.20 | SlayerXP | abrotman: 96ish for me. |
| 12:22.28 | FreshPrince | abrotman: which one are u using? |
| 12:22.29 | abrotman | SlayerXP: either Hamm or slink .. no idea really .. |
| 12:22.33 | abrotman | FreshPrince: Debian |
| 12:22.40 | FreshPrince | abrotman: only debian? |
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| 12:23.11 | abrotman | FreshPrince: it's good for servers .. good for my laptop .. i have no reason to use anything else |
| 12:23.19 | abrotman | other than for goofing around |
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| 12:23.33 | nile | FreshPrince, Gentoo is perfect for letting your processor get a workout |
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| 12:23.42 | FreshPrince | abrotman: wel.. |
| 12:23.43 | SlayerXP | talking of goofing around, I need to fix my desktop |
| 12:23.44 | FreshPrince | nile: yes i know.. |
| 12:23.50 | SlayerXP | unstable has utterly utterly broken it |
| 12:24.01 | pavlix | abrotman: thanks, works... |
| 12:24.03 | FreshPrince | nile: i'm using gentoo.. but i have no reason to try debian.. i dont know.. :( |
| 12:24.10 | pavlix | it's just... glx doesn't work well |
| 12:24.19 | pavlix | it has errors... |
| 12:24.30 | tralala | !tell FreshPrince -about why debian |
| 12:24.31 | nile | fnordus, well if you're happy with it and everything works, don't. if you want to learn and play, go for it |
| 12:24.41 | nile | FreshPrince, well if you're happy with it and everything works, don't. if you want to learn and play, go for it |
| 12:24.45 | abrotman | pavlix: well .. you are running unstable :) |
| 12:24.58 | pavlix | abrotman: well, I am ;-) |
| 12:25.16 | FreshPrince | nile: well.. i would like to use 2 ditros.. but im happy with gentoo it works.. hmhm |
| 12:25.35 | nile | are you /really/ happy? |
| 12:25.37 | abrotman | pavlix: and you have nvidia ? |
| 12:25.39 | FreshPrince | well |
| 12:25.44 | FreshPrince | nile: yes.. why not? |
| 12:25.46 | pavlix | abrotman: no, ati |
| 12:25.56 | FreshPrince | nile: i know the gentoo linux.. it work and rockZ ;) |
| 12:25.57 | nile | FreshPrince, then stop asking if you should use debian ;) |
| 12:26.04 | pavlix | abrotman: I have nvidia motherboard and ati radeon graphics card |
| 12:26.05 | FreshPrince | nile: well i want use debian 2 |
| 12:26.06 | FreshPrince | :( |
| 12:26.11 | FreshPrince | hmhm i dont know.. damn :/ |
| 12:26.17 | SlayerXP | FreshPrince: you have our permission to do so. |
| 12:26.45 | FreshPrince | hm |
| 12:26.58 | FreshPrince | well |
| 12:27.01 | nile | FreshPrince, just freaking do it. |
| 12:27.10 | FreshPrince | is that good to use 2 distros?.. not realy yeah?.. |
| 12:27.16 | abrotman | nile: i'd like free beer and a live-in Lindsay Lohan .. but other than that .. |
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| 12:28.24 | pavlix | abrotman: many things work quite good now... |
| 12:28.25 | hellangel | FreshPrince, thats just like asking if its good to use winxp and win2k.... if it really is depends on you |
| 12:28.25 | pavlix | abrotman: recompiled my kernel to get dma to harddisk... and such things.... (which I think I'd have to do with testing, too) |
| 12:28.25 | abrotman | pavlix: but you use the ATI binary drivers ? |
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| 12:28.26 | pavlix | abrotman: I don't |
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| 12:28.27 | FreshPrince | hmmm |
| 12:28.27 | FreshPrince | strabge.. |
| 12:28.27 | FreshPrince | *strange |
| 12:28.37 | pavlix | abrotman: I expected the xorg drivers to work... they did |
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| 12:28.51 | Gnurdux | debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process |
| 12:28.52 | abrotman | pavlix: you may need to check the BTS more .. support for your car might be somwhat broken in 7.0 |
| 12:28.55 | pavlix | I use the driver named "ati" |
| 12:28.58 | Gnurdux | how do I get rid of that message? |
| 12:29.12 | abrotman | Gnurdux: kill the other process .. remove the lock file ? |
| 12:29.15 | pavlix | abrotman: debian's bts or xorg's bts? |
| 12:29.20 | abrotman | pavlix: debian |
| 12:29.27 | Gnurdux | how do I kill that process, when i dont know what it is abrotman ? |
| 12:29.37 | cahoot | FreshPrince: if you actually use your computer for things besides compiling - I'd say use a precompiled distro |
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| 12:29.50 | Gnurdux | is there any way to find out what process id is using that file? |
| 12:29.57 | abrotman | Gnurdux: lsof / fuser |
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| 12:30.51 | Gnurdux | ahhh thanks |
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| 12:31.53 | FreshPrince | cahoot: i need something that works fast.. becasue in gentoo we need tooooo much time to compile something.. i think u know that.. but in other distros that workd fast |
| 12:34.37 | FreshPrince | nile: cahoot i think debian is more for server good.. |
| 12:34.42 | FreshPrince | is that right? |
| 12:35.00 | Ronin | FreshPrince: its excellent for a desktop as well |
| 12:35.00 | nile | FreshPrince, nope, that's wrong. |
| 12:35.04 | green_mouse | hi, sombody know if exist debian testing/unstable netistall image what support intel wireless 2200bg (iw2200) networkcard? |
| 12:35.15 | tralala | FreshPrince: all my desktops run debian |
| 12:35.27 | tralala | and my laptop as well |
| 12:35.37 | FreshPrince | aha |
| 12:35.38 | FreshPrince | hmm.. |
| 12:35.45 | FreshPrince | well i dont know.. |
| 12:36.09 | nile | why not install it and start knowing? |
| 12:36.35 | Ronin | stay away from mine abrotman :) |
| 12:36.42 | FreshPrince | i i have the proble,, i want to use 2 distro's.. i want to know and learn 2 distro's- gentoo and something else.. but i dont know what.. but i dont if this is correct to lean more distro's or not.. or should i use gentoo? only gentoo.. on my home-pc.. laptop etc?.. thats my problem |
| 12:36.56 | abrotman | Ronin: it's canadian ... polar bear piss .. keep it |
| 12:37.07 | Ronin | FreshPrince: you can run whatever you want but we're obviously going to suggest debian |
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| 12:38.07 | FreshPrince | hmhm.. |
| 12:38.17 | cahoot | FreshPrince: asking for advice in this matter is like asking for marriage advice - it's all up to personal prefs |
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| 12:38.53 | Ronin | abrotman: not mass produced, this is home brew it has tastes and flavors and aromas |
| 12:39.04 | Ronin | likely too strong for you americans |
| 12:39.10 | abrotman | Ronin: you drunk! |
| 12:39.20 | abrotman | Ronin: depends on the style as to whether or not i'd like it |
| 12:39.31 | FreshPrince | hm.. |
| 12:40.12 | FreshPrince | ok.. when i install debian.. can i configure it.. that i can choose @ the boot.. if i want boot debian oder gnetoo.. can i fix that?.. |
| 12:40.16 | FreshPrince | when yes.. how? |
| 12:40.29 | FreshPrince | i have on my sda my gentoo symstem.. and i will install on my hdd debian |
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| 12:41.28 | cusco | hi.. the amd64 port is the one ia64? |
| 12:41.29 | nile | FreshPrince, google 'grub' and 'dual boot' and you'll be good to go. enjoy the install process |
| 12:41.40 | cusco | its the only 64 in there so it should be.. right'0= |
| 12:41.42 | cusco | ? |
| 12:41.59 | abrotman | no .. ia64 is itanium |
| 12:42.06 | cusco | oooops |
| 12:42.11 | abrotman | if you didn't pay 10,000$ for it .. it's not IA64 |
| 12:42.23 | abrotman | !amd64 |
| 12:42.23 | dpkg | amd64 is, like, See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 12:42.29 | FreshPrince | nile: ok |
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| 12:43.37 | bwlang | is there some mime type for pem files? (i don't see it in mime types... and google's not much help) |
| 12:43.41 | tralala | how do I randomize the lines of a stdin/file? |
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| 12:44.11 | abrotman | tralala: sort them by a non-standard criteria ? |
| 12:44.47 | abrotman | tralala: like use the 15th character as your key .. |
| 12:44.52 | tralala | abrotman: good idea |
| 12:44.53 | DomiX | hi, anyone use ndiswrapper ? |
| 12:45.13 | abrotman | tralala: seems easier than writing a random quip generator :) |
| 12:46.01 | abrotman | !ask |
| 12:46.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 12:47.38 | DomiX | I'm trying to use a wifi adaptater (dwl-122) with ndiswrapper 1.16 but I can't make it working :-( |
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| 12:48.08 | abrotman | that's still pretty vague .. but you may also wish to ask #ndiswrapper .. i personally haven't used it |
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| 12:48.13 | abrotman | but error messages are helpful |
| 12:48.49 | DomiX | I don't have error messages |
| 12:49.04 | DomiX | I'm trying to change mode adhoc to managed but it doesn't work :x |
| 12:49.44 | DomiX | # iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed |
| 12:49.48 | DomiX | # iwconfig wlan0|grep Mode |
| 12:49.48 | DomiX | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:54.19 | ChrisW | mornin all, using postfix as an mta, what imap server should I go for? |
| 12:54.53 | abrotman | do you want to use maildir or mbox ? |
| 12:54.54 | ChrisW | only thing I care about (above and beyond the standard ease of use, reliability, etc) is that it supports server-side imap flags... |
| 12:55.15 | ChrisW | prolly maildir, mbox is one monolithic file, right? |
| 12:55.21 | abrotman | yes |
| 12:55.22 | DomiX | abrotman: problem solved, wpa_supplicant change auto the mode |
| 12:55.27 | abrotman | good deal |
| 12:55.46 | abrotman | ChrisW: i know courier and dovecot support Maildir .. dunno about your other requirement |
| 12:55.51 | abrotman | but one would assume so |
| 12:56.28 | ChrisW | heh, well, I guess the other requirement is for one with a good debian package ;-) |
| 12:56.43 | abrotman | dovecot and courier-imap both exist |
| 12:56.46 | ChrisW | I wonder what I'm usign now.l.. |
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| 12:57.44 | abrotman | telnet <host> 143 |
| 12:58.07 | ChrisW | I onyl do SSL imap ;-) |
| 12:58.16 | abrotman | fine! |
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| 12:58.57 | ChrisW | looks like I'm curently using a hand-rolled courier-imap-1.6,1 |
| 12:59.12 | abrotman | i had nothing to do with it! |
| 12:59.14 | redloff | hi, what fast application for packing/unpacking archives in gui would you reccommend? |
| 12:59.27 | abrotman | gnome/kde ? |
| 12:59.31 | redloff | wmaker |
| 12:59.34 | abrotman | erm ... |
| 12:59.36 | redloff | gtk preferably |
| 12:59.37 | redloff | ;] |
| 12:59.58 | abrotman | is it .. called file-roller .. guitar ? one of those .. i think one is a gnome app though |
| 12:59.58 | redloff | I want to combine it with rox-filer |
| 13:00.15 | redloff | guitar :))) |
| 13:00.24 | abrotman | hey .. that's the name .. don't make fun of me :) |
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| 13:01.03 | redloff | lol.. |
| 13:01.07 | redloff | thx a lot |
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| 13:04.19 | abrotman | !moo |
| 13:04.19 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 13:04.39 | nile | permission denied :( |
| 13:04.45 | nile | apparently, only root can moo |
| 13:04.45 | redloff | ;] |
| 13:05.17 | tux | how can i put trigger-scripts to be called after interface-up |
| 13:05.35 | valdyn | tux: man interfaces |
| 13:05.45 | tux | i have if-down, if-post-down and if-pre-up |
| 13:06.05 | ephracis | abrotman: haha, nice feature. |
| 13:06.54 | abrotman | nile: no ... anyone |
| 13:07.51 | ephracis | nile: apparently I can moo as a normal user. |
| 13:07.56 | mc__ | i cant get my wlan working on debian sarge |
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| 13:08.12 | mc__ | i did the following: |
| 13:08.13 | dvs | !tell mc__ -about ask |
| 13:08.14 | ephracis | mc__: what's the problem then? |
| 13:08.33 | mc__ | iwconfig ra0 essid Satori channel 6 |
| 13:08.39 | woodywarty | hello all |
| 13:08.41 | mc__ | ifconfig ra0 up 192.168.0.3 |
| 13:08.51 | mc__ | also tried dhcpd ra0 |
| 13:08.51 | woodywarty | I have a problem regarding my /var directory |
| 13:09.02 | mc__ | but ra0 is never associated |
| 13:09.17 | woodywarty | Squid logs are filling up my hard drive, what do I do to reduce the disk space ? |
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| 13:09.49 | mc__ | woodywarty, change the logging level |
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| 13:10.11 | woodywarty | mc, what's the suppose to mean |
| 13:10.22 | mc__ | or chmod 000 logfile,but that would be a very dirty hack |
| 13:10.37 | valdyn | mc__: ifconfig ra0 down; iwconfig ra0 mode managed essid Satori ap off; ifconfig ra0 up |
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| 13:10.47 | valdyn | mc__: more than that shouldnt be required |
| 13:10.48 | ribnitz | heyas. |
| 13:11.25 | ribnitz | Is Xorg 7.0 safe to inmstall now? |
| 13:11.33 | mc__ | valdyn, cool that works thank you |
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| 13:11.48 | mc__ | ribnitz, it is but it has absolute no advantage |
| 13:12.00 | valdyn | mc__: ap off will let it search ap by itself.. |
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| 13:12.24 | valdyn | mc__: specifying channel in managed mode doesnt work or make sense |
| 13:12.26 | ribnitz | mc__: the question was more like: will running a dist-upgrade in sid break X11? |
| 13:12.56 | abrotman | ribnitz: maybe .. maybe not |
| 13:12.59 | tarzeau | i've updated http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ |
| 13:13.09 | mc__ | ribnitz, no one can guarantee that it does not,but for me it didnt break X11 |
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| 13:14.11 | redloff | how about a light gtk "notepad like" simplest text editor for plaintext file? |
| 13:14.20 | redloff | userfriendly if possible |
| 13:14.48 | mc__ | redloff, gedit is nice |
| 13:14.55 | buffoon | redloff: gedit |
| 13:15.17 | ribnitz | redloff: so is ndedit, but thats more for programming. (so is gvim..) |
| 13:15.44 | marimo | nedit? |
| 13:15.51 | ribnitz | mc__: yep. |
| 13:15.55 | valdyn | that is motif |
| 13:15.59 | tarzeau | mc__: textedit.app is nice |
| 13:16.00 | redloff | gedit is exactly what I need, thx |
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| 13:16.17 | marimo | nedit is old~ and yeah it's motif not gtk |
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| 13:16.59 | ribnitz | marimo: should I care about it being Motif? |
| 13:17.06 | mc__ | is it possibly to give processes a "networkin priority" ? i meant so that i can run amule in background and surf smoothly with opera |
| 13:17.08 | marimo | it doesn't look pretty |
| 13:17.34 | marimo | ribnitz, nope; you could argue that it's a little lighter |
| 13:17.53 | ribnitz | mc__: use traffic shaping, but thats kinda not a half-hour task to set up |
| 13:17.53 | valdyn | mc__: http://www.lartc.org/, but giving processes that priority is probably more sophisticated than you need or want, 'apt-cache show wondershaper' |
| 13:17.57 | marimo | mc__, you need a trafic shaper |
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| 13:18.07 | marimo | lol |
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| 13:18.30 | mc__ | thanky ya ill have a look at that |
| 13:18.34 | valdyn | mc__: just have to adjust wondershaper to depriorise also the amule traffic / ports |
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| 13:19.37 | valdyn | mc__: but btw, amule itself supports restricting its traffic |
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| 13:20.16 | mc__ | valdyn, i know but there is not only amule,and it should eat the whole bandwith when im not currently surfing |
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| 13:21.13 | valdyn | mc__: its already efficient to just limit amule slightly below your max |
| 13:21.14 | ribnitz | they packaged eclipse.. nice. |
| 13:21.22 | marimo | mc__, you can't get 0-60 instant results on idle |
| 13:21.38 | marimo | ribnitz, now all we need is rlocate ;p |
| 13:22.34 | ribnitz | marimo: Eclipse is among the better free SDKs. |
| 13:22.58 | marimo | ribnitz, i was being random; rlocate is something completely unrelated |
| 13:23.10 | marimo | ribnitz, and i agree for java, not so much with everything else |
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| 13:24.54 | ribnitz | marimo: I only use it for java. Havent used much else professioonally in the last two years. |
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| 13:27.52 | tenzing_ | my mozilla 1.7 gives this error. : *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x0821db40 ***, please help me solve this |
| 13:28.31 | valdyn | tenzing_: /topic |
| 13:28.33 | abrotman | tenzing_: check the URL in the topic |
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| 13:29.36 | csmall | Is there a known working DVD iso for debian? be it sid or stable? |
| 13:29.56 | dvs | csmall: add Debian DVDs worked for me |
| 13:30.01 | dvs | *all |
| 13:30.08 | csmall | dvs where did you get them? |
| 13:30.20 | dvs | csmall: the official site |
| 13:30.23 | csmall | dvs I burned one last night and it fails on various components of the install |
| 13:30.48 | dvs | csmall: did you try and download the iso image via http? |
| 13:30.58 | csmall | no, ftp |
| 13:31.09 | dvs | csmall: I used jigdo |
| 13:31.27 | csmall | dvs, I am not familiar with it. |
| 13:31.33 | dvs | !jigdo |
| 13:31.33 | dpkg | well, jigdo is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD images of Debian. at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ or http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Jigdo/index.html |
| 13:32.10 | csmall | ahh |
| 13:32.16 | csmall | I need to do it from a windows box |
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| 13:33.04 | titou | hi |
| 13:33.16 | dvs | csmall: why do you need the DVD images anyways? |
| 13:33.28 | csmall | dvs, I ran out of blank cd-r's |
| 13:33.33 | csmall | I have 50 dvd's |
| 13:33.37 | dvs | oh |
| 13:34.03 | csmall | i'll try the stable iso |
| 13:34.08 | csmall | i'm sure that will work fine |
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| 13:34.27 | titou | i'm using debian on a IA64 machine and when i try to load the ?hci-hcd module i got "FATAL: module ?hcd_hcd not found" |
| 13:34.45 | dvs | are you sure it's an IA64 machine (Itanium)? |
| 13:34.50 | titou | if i copy the file ?hci-hcd.ko to ?hci_hcd.ko |
| 13:34.52 | titou | it works |
| 13:34.57 | titou | dvs: of course i'm sure.. |
| 13:35.15 | dvs | titou: some people confuse it with EM64T |
| 13:35.23 | titou | dvs: it is. |
| 13:35.55 | marimo | IA64 != AMD64/EM64T |
| 13:35.57 | marimo | lolz |
| 13:36.10 | csmall | does sarge default to 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 13:36.16 | titou | dvs: it's a bi-itanium 2 in a HP station |
| 13:36.22 | dvs | csmall: defaults to 2.4 but you can specify 2.6 |
| 13:36.26 | csmall | k |
| 13:36.26 | titou | used to simulate physics experiments |
| 13:36.32 | marimo | cool |
| 13:36.45 | titou | bu it doesn not answer my question |
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| 13:37.14 | titou | why i need to rename each xxxx-xxx.ko to xxxx_xxx.ko to load them ?! |
| 13:38.25 | marimo | titou: you can make symlinks, too - you're using unstable right |
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| 13:38.41 | marimo | titou: version differences i think |
| 13:38.53 | titou | marimo: that's right |
| 13:39.05 | titou | but it's quite strange... |
| 13:39.26 | titou | there is no other solution than making symlink ? |
| 13:40.22 | titou | because there is lot of modules which contains a '-' |
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| 13:40.43 | HNT | Hello everybody, i have some problem with kmyfirewall (configuration of iptables), when i launch the firewall i can't anymore connect as normal user to kde, the problem come from the ipt_limit module into the kernel, the firewall need it but if i build it i can't connect to kde anymore, ... do you have a solution ? |
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| 13:55.16 | abrotman | !cookie |
| 13:55.35 | titou | marimo: i just have the problem with uhci-hcd and ohci-hcd... |
| 13:55.35 | abrotman | mm .. that's a good one |
| 13:55.47 | titou | ehci-hcd can be loaded without any problem |
| 13:55.54 | titou | i don't understand.. |
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| 13:56.03 | abrotman | HNT: do you allow conn |
| 13:56.03 | abrotman | bah |
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| 13:57.53 | green_mouse | hi. now i have only whireless connection to internet... and netinstall cd image don`t contain drivers for my wireless card (iwp2200). Is it possible to istall debian, any suggestions?? |
| 13:58.12 | abrotman | green_mouse: miht have to use the CD1 ... something with a compiler .. |
| 13:58.14 | abrotman | !cd contents |
| 13:58.15 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt, or http://people.debian.org/~fenio/jigdo-search.php |
| 13:58.20 | abrotman | green_mouse: and find the disc with your driver |
| 13:58.34 | valdyn | green_mouse: use the first cdrom, not netinstall, set your network up after debian is installed |
| 13:59.17 | green_mouse | abrotman, mayby any not-officical cd`s haves this driver?? |
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| 13:59.45 | abrotman | green_mouse: the official have them .. but it's not free .. so not in the main kernel |
| 13:59.56 | valdyn | green_mouse: probably, but not the firmware if you're unlucky |
| 14:00.33 | valdyn | abrotman: ipw2[12]00 got merged at 2.6.15 |
| 14:00.45 | abrotman | valdyn: sarge doesn't use 2.6.15 :) |
| 14:01.45 | valdyn | abrotman: my point actually, no official debian installer can atm have this driver |
| 14:02.09 | abrotman | valdyn: stupid firmware! |
| 14:02.29 | valdyn | green_mouse: you dont need this driver anyway to install debian |
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| 14:02.40 | abrotman | i think his only internet is wireless |
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| 14:03.10 | valdyn | sure, so he can install from the 'complete' disk images |
| 14:03.12 | green_mouse | valdyn, yes but after this i want to connect to internet :) |
| 14:03.42 | abrotman | i think i said how to do this .. oh well |
| 14:03.55 | valdyn | green_mouse: after you installed debian you can burn a cdrom containing what you need and use that easier |
| 14:04.04 | prudhvi | why is ACPI Broken in almost all Debian Kernels ? |
| 14:04.24 | valdyn | prudhvi: it isnt? |
| 14:04.25 | blondie | la la la |
| 14:04.29 | green_mouse | abrotman, ok thnk... |
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| 14:04.58 | abrotman | prudhvi: it's your system :) |
| 14:05.02 | prudhvi | valdyn, i tried almost all debian kernels none of then support ACPI at the moment |
| 14:05.19 | prudhvi | abrotman, it worked fine in Fedora and Ubuntu though |
| 14:05.20 | abrotman | prudhvi: don't tell my laptop .. it's been using ACPI |
| 14:05.22 | valdyn | prudhvi: that is wrong, all 2.6.x kernel have acpi support |
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| 14:05.35 | Chris-Top | yo |
| 14:05.39 | Chris-Top | yo |
| 14:05.57 | prudhvi | abrotman, i really do use a laptop |
| 14:06.01 | valdyn | prudhvi: maybe tell us what exactly isnt working |
| 14:06.30 | Chris-Top | i used /usr/sbin/useradd ircd -p 123456 -d /home/ircd and when i use ls /home it just shows chris and ftp |
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| 14:06.46 | abrotman | use adduser ? |
| 14:07.26 | Vinod | I am try to load kernel ver 2.6 on Dell PE 2800, not able to install Mega raid drivers pls help |
| 14:07.34 | Chris-Top | errrrr im use to fedora lol |
| 14:07.34 | valdyn | !megaraid |
| 14:07.54 | Vinod | yes megaraid_mbox or megaraid2 drivers |
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| 14:08.04 | abrotman | those aren't in 2.6 |
| 14:08.13 | abrotman | i think they all got rolled into just 'megaraid' |
| 14:08.27 | valdyn | 2.6 has 2 megaraid drivers |
| 14:08.32 | Vinod | ok |
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| 14:08.53 | valdyn | now i was searching for the factoid to explain details, i dont know them |
| 14:08.54 | blondie | Chris-Top: useradd doesn't create home directories; adduser does |
| 14:09.12 | blondie | Chris-Top: mkdir /home/ircd && chown ircd /home/ircd |
| 14:09.22 | bbrazil | blondie: it depends on what options you pass useradd |
| 14:09.58 | Vinod | am installing kernel by apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-12-em64t-p4-smp |
| 14:09.59 | valdyn | Vinod: tried google? you're by far not the first one with this issue |
| 14:10.05 | blondie | ah, -m |
| 14:10.08 | Chris-Top | errrr, ok i tried adduser but it says no more then 2 names :/ |
| 14:10.14 | islipidyow | doesn't -m and -d makes the home di? |
| 14:10.20 | blondie | Chris-Top: it's different syntax |
| 14:10.22 | clojster | hello, please how can I make snownews to download Atom feeds? I have added this line as filter: /usr/bin/xsltproc /home/clojster/.snownews/ext/rss1.xsl - but it didn't help... Am I missing something? |
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| 14:10.36 | Vinod | it sys FATAL: Module megaraid_mbox not found. |
| 14:10.45 | abrotman | bbrazil: he showed us the ones he used .. he didn't do it |
| 14:11.31 | blondie | Chris-Top: RTFMP for useradd/adduser |
| 14:11.34 | Vinod | valdyn yes tried a lot of answers but unable to build also |
| 14:11.51 | islipidyow | need help for SATA hostraid driver for an ibm 306m -- trail signs anyone? :) |
| 14:11.55 | Vinod | I tried building kernel from source but got lot of errors |
| 14:12.04 | Vinod | is there any workaround for this? |
| 14:12.07 | blondie | "trail signs"? |
| 14:12.49 | islipidyow | i mean can anyone point me to the right direction? |
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| 14:15.30 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 14:15.30 | dpkg | i guess sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 14:15.38 | Chris-Top | has anyone used vhcs?, if so why i install it it shoots my pc from 388mb free to just 10mb free |
| 14:15.48 | Vinod | can any1 help to resolve megaraid issue in kernel 2.6 |
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| 14:16.17 | valdyn | !google debian dell pe 2800 |
| 14:16.26 | dpkg | Google says debian dell pe 2800 is at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/msg00360.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/msg00361.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/msg00359.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/subject.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2006/04/subject.html |
| 14:17.30 | valdyn | Vinod: or see what dpkg said above about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 14:18.02 | titou | so nobody knows why i cannot load the uhci-hcd module whereas it is present for the current kernel? |
| 14:18.26 | titou | (FATAL: Module uhci-hcd not found.) |
| 14:19.54 | Vinod | valdyn: I tried the solution given at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/03/msg00360.html |
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| 14:20.20 | Vinod | apt-get install still given same megaraid_mbox driver not found error |
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| 14:22.25 | ericP | how can i ar out the the install script for mysql? |
| 14:23.10 | ericP | i get "cp: cannot overwrite directory `/var/lib/mysql-upgrade/DATADIR.link/mysql' with non-directory", but don't know what non-directory it's trying to plop on top of DADADIR.link/mysql |
| 14:23.29 | ericP | hmm, DADADIR, for the dada-ist database? |
| 14:23.45 | ericP | trying to make normalize relational forms in an irrational world? |
| 14:23.52 | ericP | i like it! |
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| 14:27.02 | Vinod | valdyn: is there a package kernel-image-2.6.10 ? or is it just kernel-image-2.6.8-* |
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| 14:28.56 | z421 | hello! |
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| 14:31.46 | abrotman | kind of slow for a sunday |
| 14:31.46 | Vinod | valdyn: Please help me |
| 14:33.36 | Ironhand | is the default .config included in the kernel-source-2.4.27 package basically the same that is used to build standard debian kernel packages? if not, how do I obtain that .config ? |
| 14:33.59 | abrotman | Ironhand: it's in /boot/ |
| 14:33.59 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 14:34.00 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
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| 14:34.13 | valdyn | Vinod: ^^^ |
| 14:34.27 | Ironhand | ah, thx abrotman |
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| 14:35.57 | LakersFan | morning everyone |
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| 14:37.01 | Naz_ | hey |
| 14:37.02 | Naz_ | #vmware is dead, so I'll ask it here |
| 14:37.18 | blondie | ERROR |
| 14:37.24 | Naz_ | I want to run a directx game on VMWare 5.5 |
| 14:37.37 | Naz_ | I open it and the video is fine |
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| 14:37.42 | blondie | debian supports directx games? |
| 14:37.44 | Naz_ | going at a good FPS |
| 14:37.54 | Naz_ | but the mouse and keyboard lag a few seconds |
| 14:37.57 | LakersFan | wtf kind of question is that blondie? |
| 14:37.59 | Naz_ | what's wrong? |
| 14:38.04 | Naz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.10 | Naz_ | rofl |
| 14:38.12 | blondie | Naz_: is that a debian question? |
| 14:38.19 | blondie | LakersFan: what? |
| 14:38.23 | Naz_ | well, #vmware is dead |
| 14:38.30 | blondie | that's not what I asked |
| 14:38.33 | Naz_ | and I'mrunning it on Debian |
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| 14:39.00 | LakersFan | blondie: didnt read the previous question, my apologies ;) |
| 14:39.00 | Naz_ | I'm not sure if its a debian problem though |
| 14:39.05 | Naz_ | probably isn't |
| 14:39.09 | blondie | well don't ask here then |
| 14:39.32 | Naz_ | someone might be able to help here >_> |
| 14:39.53 | blondie | this channel is for debian help |
| 14:40.26 | Naz_ | yes, but it could be about vmware on an unsupported platform :P |
| 14:40.28 | goron | I like the new gnome-terminal more than konsole, but when I start it (in KDE) the letters are very small. When I start gnome-control-center and open Fonts, the fonts are automatically transformed in gnome-terminal to the right size. How can I use gnome-terminal with an acceptable font size in KDE without doing this intermediate step? |
| 14:40.37 | Naz_ | Debian is not on the supported list |
| 14:40.44 | Naz_ | so it could be a debian problem |
| 14:40.53 | LakersFan | Naz, you're stretching |
| 14:41.06 | blondie | Naz_: no it couldn't, vmware isn't a debian program |
| 14:42.01 | Naz_ | whatever >_> |
| 14:42.02 | abrotman | goron: gtk-theme-switch2 .. something like that |
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| 14:42.25 | LakersFan | anyone have any suggestions on a nice graphical client for wlan management? |
| 14:43.36 | goron | abrotman: That's the same as clicking on "Themes"? |
| 14:43.47 | goron | abrotman: I don't see anything which could be of use. |
| 14:44.49 | abrotman | !gtk2 font |
| 14:44.49 | dpkg | gtk2 font is, like, to change the default font, add something like "gtk-font-name = "Verdana 12"" to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0, or try gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 14:45.42 | Vinod | thanks valdyn I will the this option... |
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| 14:47.47 | Trewas | LakersFan: network-manager is quite good at least if you are using gnome, but it does not like if you have any networks defined in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:48.24 | goron | abrotman: I think you misunderstood me (or I wasn't clear enough ;) ) |
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| 14:50.04 | elinux | I'm having problems with my sound driver, I installed amaroK but when I try to play a song, it tells me that "OSS device /dev/dsp is already in use" |
| 14:50.19 | goron | When I start a Gnome session, and e.g. start Firefox, the font size are what I configured in gnome-control-center. When I start Firefox in KDE, the font sizes are *not* what I configured in gnome-control-center (also, not what I configured in kcontrolcenter). |
| 14:50.25 | elinux | even thouh I just booted |
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| 14:50.42 | mc__ | elinux, another programm is blocking the sound card |
| 14:50.43 | mc__ | elinux, any sound daemon running? |
| 14:50.59 | elinux | elinux, it might be possible, but how would I verify that? |
| 14:51.04 | goron | elinux: Started default KDE, then you have got something running. |
| 14:51.04 | elinux | mc__, sorry |
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| 14:51.17 | elinux | mc__, I'm on gnome |
| 14:51.23 | mc__ | elinux, kde means there is arts running |
| 14:51.29 | mc__ | elinux, on gnome esound is running |
| 14:51.49 | elinux | mc__, hum, what is command to list applications other that top? |
| 14:51.50 | abrotman | goron: maybe it's gtk1 font size? |
| 14:51.59 | mc__ | elinux, maybe amaroK doesnt work with esound |
| 14:52.11 | elinux | mc__, I just installed alsa |
| 14:52.12 | mc__ | elinux, ps aux |
| 14:52.27 | goron | abrotman: Isn't Firefox gtk2? |
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| 14:52.32 | mc__ | elinux, then tell amarok to use alsa |
| 14:53.02 | abrotman | !depends mozilla-firefox sarge |
| 14:53.07 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: depends on fontconfig, psmisc, debianutils (>= 1.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.6.0), libidl0, libjpeg62, libkrb53 (>= 1.3.2), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.8.1), libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxp6 | ... |
| 14:53.16 | elinux | mc__, only arts and xine shows in preferences? |
| 14:53.23 | abrotman | goron: it is .. |
| 14:53.29 | elinux | mc__, is it because i installed alsa after amaroK? |
| 14:53.33 | abrotman | goron: the gnome theme is different than the gtk theme |
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| 14:54.13 | mc__ | elinux,have you installed amarok-arts? |
| 14:54.37 | goron | abrotman: ok, so.... do you have any clue of what to do about it? |
| 14:54.40 | elinux | mc__, not specifically, but it show in sound devices list |
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| 14:55.08 | mc__ | install amarok-alsa ,and have you alsa in the kernel?(dunno if the default kernel has it or not) |
| 14:55.37 | abrotman | goron: if you've tried changing font sizes in using the .gtkrc-2.0 and in gtk-theme-switch2 .. either i'm still not understanding .. or it's all pete's fault |
| 14:55.39 | elinux | mc__, didnt come by default |
| 14:55.47 | elinux | mc__, but I installed alsa-base |
| 14:56.13 | elinux | mc__, are OSS, alsa, arts and xine equivalent |
| 14:56.23 | elinux | mc__, by equivalent, I mean same function |
| 14:56.36 | mc__ | elinux, no |
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| 14:56.51 | mc__ | elinux, OSS allows just one programm to acces the sound card |
| 14:56.59 | flapane | hi |
| 14:56.59 | mc__ | elinux, alsa allows many programms |
| 14:57.05 | flapane | my application bar disappeared |
| 14:57.09 | mc__ | elinux, and xine is a video player |
| 14:57.10 | flapane | i'm afraid it's hidden |
| 14:57.13 | flapane | anybody can help me? |
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| 14:57.43 | goron | abrotman: I installed and started gtk-the-switch2 and it has the same observable behaviour as a program in gnome-control-center. Changing that conf. file, had no effect. |
| 14:57.48 | elinux | mc__, ok, but they are all at the same level and allow access to the sound card except xine but they are not all as "good" |
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| 14:58.49 | mc__ | elinux, yes,but alsa has also a OSS emulating module |
| 14:58.49 | Ronin | flapane: what application bar where? |
| 14:58.54 | usual | anyone else have a newer liteon dvd drive that the debian installer does not recognize? |
| 14:59.03 | flapane | i mean that one with the clock |
| 14:59.07 | elinux | mc__, and where comes arts in all that? |
| 14:59.09 | flapane | can't translate it in english... |
| 14:59.15 | flapane | maybe taskbar? |
| 14:59.23 | flapane | kde3.5.2 |
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| 14:59.39 | flapane | i was configuring auto hiding after 3seconds but.. |
| 14:59.41 | flapane | it disappeared |
| 14:59.42 | mc__ | elinux, arts is a sound server,that schedules the processes which acces the soundcard |
| 14:59.49 | wwallace_lap | how do i copy dvd's with debian? |
| 14:59.57 | mc__ | elinux, if you have got alsa you do not really need arts |
| 15:00.03 | wwallace_lap | abrotman: how the hell are you? |
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| 15:00.17 | elinux | mc__, I checked for amarok packages, but I have everything installed |
| 15:00.32 | elinux | mc__, still dont have alsa in the engine list in preferences |
| 15:00.35 | mc__ | elinux, try xmms amarok sucks at all |
| 15:00.42 | abrotman | goron: i wonder if you can set it in a gnome-terminal rc file |
| 15:00.48 | elinux | mc__, lol, ok |
| 15:01.00 | flapane | noone? |
| 15:01.01 | usual | this is the first time ever that debian failed to recognize my hardware ;( |
| 15:01.22 | flapane | maybe taskbar can appear another time via some konsole command |
| 15:01.24 | cahoot | flapane: no use tryin middle-click or right click on desktop? |
| 15:01.29 | LakersFan | bah |
| 15:01.31 | mc__ | usual, some years ago debian even did not have hardware detection ;) |
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| 15:01.44 | flapane | cahoot i tried but what should i see.. |
| 15:01.46 | mc__ | usual, find out which module to load an detect it yourself ;) |
| 15:01.50 | usual | mc i know |
| 15:01.51 | SlayerXP | errr firefox breakage |
| 15:01.55 | SlayerXP | errk, even |
| 15:01.55 | flapane | the right click menu is another thing |
| 15:01.59 | elinux | mc__, hum, xmms crashed when started trying to play a song |
| 15:02.04 | flapane | i mean the bar with the task and with the clock |
| 15:02.15 | mc__ | elinux, lol today is not your lucky day |
| 15:02.16 | usual | its weird all other dists i have used see it |
| 15:02.25 | mc__ | elinux, are you running unstable? |
| 15:02.28 | elinux | mc__, I'm never lucky with linux :P |
| 15:02.28 | Ronin | flapane: its called the panel i belive, but i cant tell you how to restart it, i dont run kde, however #kde could |
| 15:02.33 | elinux | mc__, nope, sarge |
| 15:02.37 | flapane | thanks |
| 15:02.45 | mc__ | elinux, then you should really submit that bug |
| 15:02.55 | elinux | mc__, my friend sound worked right after installation on his laptop o_o |
| 15:03.06 | mc__ | elinux, so it does for me |
| 15:03.20 | abrotman | goron: i wonder if KDE interferes somehow |
| 15:03.22 | elinux | mc__, maybe it could help |
| 15:03.27 | mc__ | elinux,start xmms an go to preferences |
| 15:03.38 | goron | abrotman: They seem to know something in #debian-kde |
| 15:03.44 | elinux | mc__, just a sec, I'll try after |
| 15:03.50 | mc__ | what is selectet Output plugin |
| 15:03.55 | abrotman | goron: that was going to be my next suggestion .. |
| 15:03.56 | wwallace_lap | how do i copy dvd's with debian? |
| 15:04.03 | abrotman | goron: though .. i'd be interested to know the fox |
| 15:04.04 | abrotman | fix |
| 15:04.04 | flapane | mm i can't enter in #kde |
| 15:04.10 | flapane | it redirects me on #overflow |
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| 15:04.12 | abrotman | i know how to copy DVDs in debian |
| 15:04.15 | asg | flapane: try #debian-kde |
| 15:04.24 | flapane | ok |
| 15:04.35 | flapane | tnx |
| 15:04.45 | elinux | mc__, when I do about on a sound system in amaroK, it give me a crash info, KNotify carshes |
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| 15:05.03 | mc__ | kde is crap |
| 15:05.05 | elinux | mc__, cause of signal 11... I think it tries to acces sound device but fails |
| 15:05.12 | elinux | mc__, I'm on gnome |
| 15:05.19 | cahoot | flapane: tried moving the cursor to the area where tha panel was last seen? |
| 15:05.25 | elinux | mc__, but amaroK is on kde |
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| 15:05.37 | mc__ | elinux, thats a reason not to use it |
| 15:05.53 | flapane | yes cahoot |
| 15:06.00 | elinux | mc__, let me verify prefs in XMMS just after I kill it ;) |
| 15:06.11 | flapane | damnit i never saw such an incredible thing |
| 15:06.23 | mc__ | elinux, sorry have to go now my girlfriend is waiting |
| 15:06.24 | flapane | wtf is it |
| 15:06.34 | thegraham | Hi, I've been having some problems with sa-exim - it has suddenly starting timing out whilst scanning messages. Any ideas what might be wrong? |
| 15:06.35 | elinux | mc__, alright, thx for you help |
| 15:06.42 | mc__ | elinux, np |
| 15:06.53 | elinux | mc__, output is OSS btw |
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| 15:07.03 | elinux | mc__, was |
| 15:07.11 | flapane | maybe the bar can be launched |
| 15:07.13 | flapane | from the console... |
| 15:07.18 | flapane | but i don't know how |
| 15:07.29 | mc__ | elinux, try alsa and esound if avaible |
| 15:07.33 | mc__ | elinux, bye |
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| 15:07.42 | elinux | mc__, tried alsa but gave me error message |
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| 15:09.30 | nuxil | hi all |
| 15:09.32 | elinux | mc__, esound worked, thx |
| 15:09.43 | elinux | mc__, now will try to figure out why alsa is blocked :P |
| 15:09.53 | nuxil | i have a seriouse issue here.. i can not longer boot up my deb install |
| 15:09.54 | SlayerXP | oh joy. looks like something x.org-ish in testing is badly broken |
| 15:09.59 | nuxil | i get this error |
| 15:10.11 | nuxil | pivot_root: no such file ot dir |
| 15:10.11 | mc__ | elinux, esound runs n top of alsa/OSS |
| 15:10.12 | nuxil | + |
| 15:10.33 | mc__ | elinux, so you cannot acces it directly if esound is running |
| 15:10.36 | SlayerXP | abrotman: it's not often that testing is _badly_ broken. :) |
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| 15:10.41 | mc__ | but now i really have to go |
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| 15:10.46 | nuxil | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.51 | elinux | mc__, alright, thx |
| 15:10.55 | abrotman | SlayerXP: hrm .. seems ok for me ... |
| 15:10.59 | nuxil | kernel panic :attempted to kill init |
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| 15:11.03 | nuxil | HELP |
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| 15:11.19 | cahoot | flapane: try put the cursor at the bottom left corner of your screen |
| 15:11.23 | abrotman | !devconsole |
| 15:11.24 | dpkg | i guess devconsole is http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2005-October/011299.html or http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=282141 |
| 15:11.30 | medusaXX | i installed a patched debian package for postfix but apt wants to install the original package when dist-upgrading |
| 15:11.35 | medusaXX | how can i prevent that? |
| 15:11.41 | asg | medusaXX: /msg dpkg hold |
| 15:11.42 | abrotman | !tel medusaXX about hold |
| 15:11.42 | medusaXX | version is the same, so apt pin wont work |
| 15:11.45 | medusaXX | ok |
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| 15:12.02 | abrotman | !tell medusaXX about hold |
| 15:12.13 | asg | !tell abrotman about repeat |
| 15:12.13 | SlayerXP | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2504 |
| 15:12.21 | abrotman | asg: i didn't |
| 15:12.28 | SlayerXP | abrotman: ditto firefox |
| 15:12.37 | medusaXX | thanks |
| 15:12.51 | abrotman | SlayerXP: oh .. i don't use FF or TB . let me try |
| 15:12.51 | asg | abrotman: :p |
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| 15:13.14 | abrotman | SlayerXP: nope .. just you |
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| 15:13.42 | abrotman | SlayerXP: btw ... it was probably the FF update from yesterday |
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| 15:14.14 | nuxil | help me pls |
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| 15:14.35 | abrotman | !tell nuxil about devconsole |
| 15:14.40 | clars | Hi - how can I find the best kernel to af CompaqPresario713ae Lapto? |
| 15:14.47 | asg | clars: tuxmobile.org |
| 15:14.48 | CorrsFan | nuxil: can you still boot an older kernel version? |
| 15:14.52 | SlayerXP | abrotman: perhaps. |
| 15:15.10 | SlayerXP | abrotman: a downgrade isn't helping any |
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| 15:15.16 | clars | asg, :-) |
| 15:15.16 | Lestat_be | hi ;) |
| 15:15.26 | abrotman | SlayerXP: file a bug .. or check the BTS? |
| 15:15.46 | SlayerXP | abrotman: BTS seems to have nothing similar. filing now... |
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| 15:15.51 | basket | nuxil: did you try to boot in single-user mode or to run fsck from another system? |
| 15:16.13 | nuxil | let me try run fsck |
| 15:16.18 | nuxil | CorrsFan nop |
| 15:16.22 | abrotman | SlayerXP: before you do that .. try to move your .firefox or whatever out of the way |
| 15:16.49 | SlayerXP | abrotman: did that already. also crashes with a completely new user account |
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| 15:17.09 | CorrsFan | nuxil: are you running stable/testing/unstable? Are you using udev? Which ramdisk generator are you using (yaird or initramfs)? |
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| 15:17.30 | Lestat_be | How to send an automatic mail into a bash-script? |
| 15:17.38 | abrotman | SlayerXP: ok |
| 15:17.47 | nuxil | CorrsFan sarge |
| 15:18.03 | asg | Lestat_be: echo foo | mail me@bar (or use mutt(1)) |
| 15:18.04 | nuxil | CorrsFan you akes me alot i dont know now :P |
| 15:18.29 | CorrsFan | nuxil: are you using any backports or only sarge packages? What is the kernel version you're trying to boot? |
| 15:18.55 | nuxil | sarge only |
| 15:18.58 | elinux | what is the command to install a package I downloaded manually? apt.... |
| 15:19.03 | nuxil | kernel 2.6.8.-2-696 |
| 15:19.06 | asg | elinux: man dpkg |
| 15:19.08 | nuxil | *686 |
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| 15:20.04 | CorrsFan | nuxil: did it boot before? What hardware are you using (SATA drive?) |
| 15:20.15 | SlayerXP | abrotman: I lie. there is another report. |
| 15:20.26 | abrotman | SlayerXP: you canadians always lie! |
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| 15:20.39 | SlayerXP | abrotman: I'm english :) |
| 15:20.45 | elinux | asg, thx |
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| 15:20.54 | thegraham | Has anyone else had difficulties with sa-exim/spamassassin timing out on scanning every message? |
| 15:20.55 | abrotman | SlayerXP: so are canadians ... |
| 15:21.03 | nuxil | CorrsFan yes it booted before.. but after i installed winblows things got screwed up |
| 15:21.05 | abrotman | some of them anyways |
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| 15:21.25 | odla | abrotman: i thought people from PA lie |
| 15:21.34 | CorrsFan | nuxil: ah, you installed wintendo? Did you repartition the disk? You didn't kill your linux partition did you? |
| 15:21.39 | abrotman | odla: dunno .. i was born in michigan |
| 15:21.58 | nuxil | CorrsFan no.. winblows in on hda1 and deb on hda6 |
| 15:22.17 | Lestat_be | asg: thks... but where to set the smtp server for the mail commande? (I suppose it need to be set for send the mail on the net?) |
| 15:22.26 | CorrsFan | nuxil: did you have to repartition to install windows? |
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| 15:22.41 | asg | Lestat_be: your system should have come with an MTA. |
| 15:23.23 | Lestat_be | asg: MTA? |
| 15:23.24 | nuxil | CorrsFan no.. it was ext3 before i just reformated it to ntfs |
| 15:23.43 | asg | Lestat_be: local smtp server (exim or exim4 if you didn't install a different one.) |
| 15:23.53 | asg | Lestat_be: it will be responsible from taking mail from mail(1) and delivering it. |
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| 15:25.51 | abrotman | SlayerXP: is your bug fixed in the bts? |
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| 15:26.07 | CorrsFan | nuxil: are you sure your / or /boot wasn't on hda1 then? Try booting a knoppix CD and mount /dev/hda6 to see what's on it |
| 15:26.18 | odla | abrotman: i head out to trap otters on wednesday |
| 15:26.23 | nuxil | yes 100% |
| 15:26.26 | abrotman | odla: murderer! |
| 15:26.26 | SlayerXP | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358379 |
| 15:26.35 | nuxil | CorrsFan everything is there |
| 15:26.44 | abrotman | odla: at least the weather isn't too bad |
| 15:27.27 | odla | abrotman: the weather is pretty nice...i've got cool hair snares to trap them with so they don't get hurt |
| 15:27.37 | CorrsFan | nuxil: does the root= parameter in your grub configuration point to the correct drive? |
| 15:28.09 | nuxil | yes.. every thing seems to bee correc.. if my grub was wrong,, i would not be able to boot at all |
| 15:28.25 | nuxil | it boots.. the freeezs after a while |
| 15:28.45 | nuxil | i see mu disk get found and eth card |
| 15:29.33 | nuxil | bom..... kernel panic :P |
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| 15:29.39 | CorrsFan | nuxil: what was on the ext3 partition before you formatted it? Did you remove it from /etc/fstab? |
| 15:30.17 | nuxil | it never was in my fstab.. i used it as to put compressed files on.. |
| 15:30.25 | abrotman | odla: that's nice of you |
| 15:30.26 | nuxil | i always mounted it manualy |
| 15:30.31 | abrotman | SlayerXP: so it's .. flash ? |
| 15:30.43 | SlayerXP | abrotman: I don't have flash installed. |
| 15:30.49 | odla | abrotman: i got an 'unfinished website' www.uablerta.ca/~cdd5 |
| 15:30.59 | odla | oops www.ualberta.ca/~cdd5 |
| 15:31.07 | abrotman | SlayerXP: i was just reading the bottom of the bug |
| 15:31.14 | SlayerXP | abrotman: plus thunderbird crashes too |
| 15:31.16 | Vantage13_ | hi, I have a laptop with no cdrom/floppy drive that can't boot from external usb devices. I'm looking for ideas on how I might get debian installed on to the hard drive? |
| 15:31.37 | abrotman | SlayerXP: hrm .. i gues so |
| 15:31.45 | CorrsFan | nuxil: I suggest booting a knoppix cd, mount your root partition and chroot to it. You can then update to the latest sarge kernel (2.6.8-3-686) and/or reinstall grub |
| 15:31.55 | abrotman | odla: awesome pick .. |
| 15:32.04 | Vantage13_ | i'm thinking I might be able to put the laptop hd in an enclosure, install debian on the drive from another system, then put the hd back. No idea if that would work though.... |
| 15:32.04 | abrotman | odla: picture |
| 15:32.13 | nuxil | CorrsFan i'll try |
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| 15:32.30 | odla | abrotman: thank google images for that :) |
| 15:32.44 | abrotman | odla: hehe |
| 15:32.56 | odla | abrotman: i give talk to kids about otters and bring in a stuffed otter and they get so excited and think it's going to attack them |
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| 15:33.17 | zet|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.29 | abrotman | zet|work: wrong channel |
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| 15:33.38 | abrotman | !kurumin |
| 15:33.38 | dpkg | Kurumin Linux is a Brazilian run-from-CD Linux distribution based on Knoppix. That means it's not debian. Go away.. Ajuda pra Kurumin: http://www.kurumin.com.br |
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| 15:33.54 | Lestat_be | thanks and bye ;) |
| 15:34.22 | elinux | is there a way to specify which should be the default driver for sound? |
| 15:34.34 | elinux | I am in sarge with gnome |
| 15:36.06 | Althaser | elinux alsaconf |
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| 15:37.00 | goron | abrotman: basically Gnome is doing "the wrong thing". No, real solution in sight. |
| 15:37.17 | abrotman | goron: but you're running kde ... |
| 15:37.31 | abrotman | goron: and my fonts for gnome-termainl(running gnome) work correctly |
| 15:37.39 | elinux | Althaser, it will set alsa as default I guess? |
| 15:38.02 | elinux | Althaser, anything I can do to set the use of eSound |
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| 15:38.36 | Althaser | elinux try using alsaconf |
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| 15:38.50 | elinux | Althaser, I did |
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| 15:39.35 | marco13185 | when are they gonna fix xfce? |
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| 15:40.21 | Bac9 | is there a way to select which NIC becomes eth0 in linux 2.6? |
| 15:40.23 | marco13185 | because they updated the meta package, but not the individual components |
| 15:40.27 | goron | abrotman: The first started Gnome application change the dpi setting. |
| 15:40.33 | goron | er changes |
| 15:40.52 | asg | Bac9: nameif |
| 15:40.59 | abrotman | goron: and there is no fix? .. maybe try asking #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 15:41.01 | Bac9 | asg: elaborate please |
| 15:41.08 | asg | Bac9: nameif(8) |
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| 15:41.15 | Bac9 | asg: thanx |
| 15:41.26 | marco13185 | does anyone know anything about the status of xfce? |
| 15:41.35 | asg | marco13185: the bts |
| 15:41.49 | marco13185 | asg, it doesn't tell you much about when it's gonna be fixed |
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| 15:42.13 | mc__ | marco13185, what do you mean? xfce runs nice for me |
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| 15:42.26 | asg | marco13185: it'll be fixed when the maintainer fixes it; sooner if you provide a patch. When it's fixed, new packages will appear in incoming before migrating to sid. |
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| 15:42.42 | Eclipser | what's wrong with it anyway? |
| 15:42.47 | Eclipser | it works fien for me on sarge and sid |
| 15:42.56 | goron | abrotman: not that he knew of. |
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| 15:43.01 | marco13185 | Eclipser, the newest beta version is updated in the meta-packages |
| 15:43.09 | marco13185 | but the components are still at the stable version |
| 15:43.15 | abrotman | goron: try the gnome guys .. |
| 15:43.17 | abrotman | !#gnome |
| 15:43.17 | dpkg | The gnome IRC channel is #gnome at irc.gnome.org, or for debian gnome related use #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 15:43.36 | masterra | i've got an issue with a damanged ext3 partition - are there any ext2/3 guru's around? or could someoen point me the right way? (i've been googling for days) |
| 15:43.39 | Eclipser | marco13185, stable release only gets updates on security issues and when new stable is released |
| 15:43.47 | Eclipser | etch is due before christmas? |
| 15:43.50 | marco13185 | Eclipser, I know, I'm running unstable |
| 15:44.02 | Eclipser | aha |
| 15:44.07 | asg | Eclipser: it is scheduled for a December release |
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| 15:44.12 | marco13185 | xfce devs released a beta of 4.4 |
| 15:44.29 | marco13185 | the unstable repository has the meta-package updated to that, but not the individual packages |
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| 15:44.47 | rohan | is bugs.debian.org down on sundays /? |
| 15:45.08 | tommassino | hello is there anyone who would help me with setting radeon in xfree86 |
| 15:45.11 | asg | rohan: no |
| 15:45.22 | rohan | i filed a bug LONG LONG back, still no confirmation or bug no. assigned |
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| 15:45.48 | asg | rohan: are you running your own MTA or using your ISP's smarthost? |
| 15:46.09 | asg | rohan: if the former, it's possible that your mail was thrown in the bit bucket as an anti-spam measure |
| 15:46.15 | unfo | rohan: the autoconfirmation is not supposed to take a long time to arrive. :) |
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| 15:46.35 | rohan | asg: i said "no" when it asked do you have an mta configured. and i gave my email id as rohandhruva@gmail.com .. |
| 15:46.46 | rohan | asg: i hence do not know what smtp server did it use |
| 15:46.56 | rohan | but i have filed many bugs this wasy |
| 15:46.57 | rohan | *way |
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| 15:47.09 | rohan | btw, i use reportbug .. just fyi ;) |
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| 15:47.25 | tommassino | please someone with working radeon |
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| 15:47.51 | rohan | tommassino: you use debian sarge ? |
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| 15:48.44 | stew | rohan: sophr (the machine that runs bts) is out of hard disk space, aparantly |
| 15:48.45 | rohan | asg: in that case, do i file the bug again ? |
| 15:48.59 | rohan | stew: oh, so refiling the bug is not adviced ? |
| 15:49.01 | tommassino | 3.1 |
| 15:49.06 | stew | rohan: i don't know |
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| 15:49.26 | Bac9 | asg: nameif seems to be usable only after bootup, is there anything I can do during boot (otherwise my nfs mounts don't get mounted) |
| 15:49.36 | masterra | I have a filesystem which is bigger than the drive that it is one (there was a RAID disaster, but i know half of the data is still there on this drive! i just can't get to it!) |
| 15:49.38 | rohan | hmmm.. so 2 possibilties -- 1) it was thrown away as spam (wtf :P) 2) theres no hdd space |
| 15:50.04 | rohan | tommassino: http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/ was the best result i could find |
| 15:50.16 | tommassino | thanks |
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| 15:50.30 | rohan | specifically - http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/ATI_Radeon.shtml |
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| 15:52.21 | iturk | one question i have a process with this info in ps -x > 6352 ? Ss 0:00 :: and i cannot kill in my case if i do kill 6352 the process remain there :: can someone tell me why ?? (i am doing this in root) |
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| 15:53.01 | iturk | and it goes out after some time |
| 15:54.15 | FaithX | I am looking for some ERP software for a production manufacture company, any suggestions? |
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| 15:56.10 | Bac9 | how do I configure which NIC will be eth0 and which will be eth1 during boot? (this has to be done during boot and not later so NFS mounts work) |
| 15:56.22 | elinux | sound problem: I had XMMS working a few minutes ago (used esound) and had problems with skype |
| 15:56.37 | elinux | now, skype works! but cant play anything with xmms anymore |
| 15:56.50 | elinux | I tried to change sound driver (alsa instaed) |
| 15:56.51 | stew | Bac9: what version of debian are you using? |
| 15:57.02 | Bac9 | stew: etch |
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| 15:57.20 | elinux | and amaroK wont work neither |
| 15:57.29 | stew | Bac9: then use ifrename |
| 15:57.36 | elinux | XMMS gives me an error telling me it cant open the sound device |
| 15:58.01 | stew | Bac9: (or use sid's udev which makes the interface names permanant) |
| 15:58.02 | Bac9 | stew: that's for post boot, that means the NFS partitions will not mount, that meens I have to log in as root and do it |
| 15:58.03 | unstable | elinux: What version of debian are you running? |
| 15:58.17 | elinux | unstable, not unstable :P |
| 15:58.21 | elinux | unstable, sarge |
| 15:58.31 | Bac9 | stew: how does udev set interface names? |
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| 15:58.51 | unstable | elinux: apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf; then as non-root type "alsamixer" and turn up all levels |
| 15:59.07 | unstable | !tell Bac9 about udev |
| 15:59.12 | unstable | Bac9: /join #linux also |
| 15:59.22 | unstable | er, Bac9 /join #kernel rather |
| 15:59.34 | Bac9 | unstable: #linux isn't joinable |
| 15:59.46 | unstable | Bac9: yes, I meant #kernel not #linux |
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| 16:00.02 | rohan | elinux: since skype uses oss, it blocks the sound card |
| 16:00.05 | trampel | !tell trampel about ! |
| 16:00.15 | unstable | trampel: /msg dpkg help |
| 16:00.20 | unstable | !tell trampel about msgdpkg |
| 16:00.20 | rohan | elinux: so playing other apps while using skype will not work |
| 16:00.29 | trampel | unstable: thankee! |
| 16:00.30 | elinux | rohan, but gaim makes sound when contacts come online |
| 16:00.33 | streuner | trampel: /msg dpkg help |
| 16:00.40 | stew | Bac9: i'm not sure how |
| 16:00.44 | elinux | unstable, already installed those |
| 16:00.46 | rohan | elinux: oh, so the problem is limited to xmms ? |
| 16:01.01 | unstable | lsmod|grep oss |
| 16:01.05 | elinux | well, amaroK is not working either, although it never worked |
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| 16:01.09 | Bac9 | stew: )-: |
| 16:01.09 | unstable | elinux: type that and put it on pastebin |
| 16:01.13 | elinux | maybe I could try another prog |
| 16:01.27 | elinux | unstable, ok |
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| 16:01.49 | streuner | trampel: http://www.infobot.org/guide-0.43.x.html |
| 16:01.51 | rohan | elinux: amarok never worked ? cant be, i am using sid and playing stuff in amarok :P |
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| 16:02.05 | Eclipser | xmms2 ftw |
| 16:02.08 | elinux | rohan, I know it is functionnal, but not for me :P |
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| 16:02.21 | rohan | elinux: hehe, what error do you get ? did you try the xine engine ? |
| 16:02.31 | elinux | rohan, didnt try xine |
| 16:02.57 | rohan | elinux: apt-get install amarok-xine |
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| 16:03.49 | elinux | rohan, hum, amaroK works now... |
| 16:04.02 | rohan | elinux: ok. |
| 16:04.02 | elinux | rohan, someone told me xine was video driver?!? |
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| 16:04.10 | elinux | rohan, trying skype now |
| 16:04.20 | rohan | elinux: hehe no, xine plays a lot of formats. |
| 16:04.30 | rohan | elinux: and, yea, xine can do video, but amarok wont |
| 16:04.34 | masterra | anyone around that might be able to help with an ext2 corruption problem? i have lost the second half of the filesystem (due to a RAID problem).. i'd appreciate any help, or if anyone knows a better place to ask :) |
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| 16:04.35 | elinux | rohan, now, Skype freeze |
| 16:04.44 | elinux | rohan, fails on connection |
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| 16:05.06 | rohan | elinux: as i said, skype uses old and OBSOLETE sound system, its bound to cause problems |
| 16:05.08 | elinux | rohan, sorry, it freezes when trying to call someone |
| 16:05.28 | elinux | rohan, and they didnt release an alsa version I think |
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| 16:05.39 | rohan | elinux: yes, they didnt afaik |
| 16:05.57 | cahoot | and they won't any time soon |
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| 16:06.16 | elinux | cahoot, hi cahoot |
| 16:06.19 | rohan | because they cant ;) |
| 16:06.23 | elinux | yeah, read the forum a little |
| 16:06.38 | cahoot | elinux: there are ways to get around this - look at the skye forum |
| 16:07.14 | buffoon | My friend is trying to install sarge with a external dvd-device. (his built-in on the laptop is broken) But the installer doesn't find the cdrom. it starts, but it can't load the data from the cd. Is there a cheatcode or another solution for itß |
| 16:07.27 | elinux | cahoot, i'll be watching it |
| 16:07.39 | cahoot | elinux: but the most effective is to get a dedicated usb device for skype |
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| 16:07.55 | rohan | buffoon: are you sure the cd was burnt correctly ? |
| 16:08.12 | elinux | cahoot, I guess Linux sound faq is the best place to go |
| 16:08.27 | buffoon | rohan: yes. I installed with the same cd sarge on my laptop on the same day |
| 16:08.28 | cahoot | elinux: I'd guess so |
| 16:08.43 | rohan | buffoon: oh :/ |
| 16:09.19 | elinux | rohan, hum, there is still something I dont get about sound drivers |
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| 16:10.01 | buffoon | could that problem be, because thats a USB device? |
| 16:10.05 | rohan | buffoon: maybe the d-i doesnt have the drivers for the external device |
| 16:10.11 | elinux | rohan, say I start amarok, start playing a song, then start XMMS and start it too.. what is the expected behavior? |
| 16:10.12 | rohan | elinux: that being ? |
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| 16:11.24 | buffoon | hmm, i tried it on my debian and it worked fine without loading any extra modules |
| 16:11.29 | noviac | elinux, it is supposed to play just as normal. |
| 16:11.42 | buffoon | i needed it because i have only a cd reader on my laptop... |
| 16:11.42 | cahoot | elinux: either you card does hw mixing OR you need software mixing - like art/esd or alsas dmix |
| 16:12.01 | elinux | rohan, XMMS gives me an error that it is unable to open sound device |
| 16:12.26 | cahoot | elinux: you need software mixing - like art/esd or alsas dmix |
| 16:12.37 | elinux | cahoot, I use eSound with XMMS and xine with amarok |
| 16:12.49 | marco13185 | I did a dist-upgrade in sid (I know it's risky :P) and I get this error when I try to startx: "X10: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on Xserver :0,0" after 0 resets (0 know processed) with 0 events remaining |
| 16:13.09 | elinux | and if I stop amarok and try to play XMMS, it still fails |
| 16:13.21 | marco13185 | in case it matters, I installed enlightenment and fvwm before installing |
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| 16:14.19 | streuner | marco13185: why not using stable with backports? |
| 16:14.30 | elinux | cahoot, I have to restart XMMS and change it sound device (esound for alsa) before it works again |
| 16:15.03 | marco13185 | streuner, because I decided that I want to use unstable, but that really doesn't answer my question :( |
| 16:15.18 | marco13185 | I wish to not be scolded for using unstable and just be helped |
| 16:15.44 | streuner | marco13185: read /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 16:15.58 | marco13185 | streuner, I don't need a lecture on using sid |
| 16:15.59 | elinux | cahoot, is there a way to verify who/what is using /dev/dsp and which sound driver |
| 16:16.12 | streuner | well, if you ask for help, you should be prepared to accept other people experiences |
| 16:16.32 | cahoot | elinux: fuser -v /dev/dsp |
| 16:16.32 | marco13185 | streuner, well, I think my question was specific enough |
| 16:17.26 | elinux | cahoot, hum, I'm playing music and type fuser -v /dev/dsp and it returns nothing |
| 16:17.39 | elinux | cahoot, is it cause stuff was not started from this console? |
| 16:17.56 | cahoot | elinux: probably because the app uses alsas native device /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p |
| 16:18.03 | streuner | marco13185: look into xsession.log, if it exist and in /var/log/ for xorg |
| 16:18.14 | cahoot | elinux: try fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p |
| 16:18.41 | elinux | cahoot, still nothing |
| 16:18.46 | jetscreamer | what is 'dirty' memory, as reported by cat /proc/meminfo : Dirty: 268 kB |
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| 16:18.57 | cahoot | elinux: and you still get sound? |
| 16:19.19 | elinux | cahoot, yes, got sound but nothing using /dev/snd/... |
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| 16:19.31 | elinux | cahoot, and still something a little buggy |
| 16:19.50 | streuner | marco13185: show us the whole error with 'startx' in paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
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| 16:19.52 | elinux | cahoot, unless I am too demanding :P |
| 16:20.17 | streuner | marco13185: plus the log of X from /var/log/ |
| 16:20.38 | cahoot | elinux: did you run fuser... while playing a sound? |
| 16:20.49 | elinux | cahoot, yes |
| 16:21.21 | elinux | oh, now it shows something |
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| 16:21.48 | elinux | cahoot, xmms |
| 16:22.10 | marco13185 | streuner, it's only one line: X10: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on Xserver :0,0" after 0 resets (0 know processed) with 0 events remaining |
| 16:22.36 | streuner | marco13185: ok, we need the the log of /var/log in paster bot now. |
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| 16:22.44 | thug_ | if im going to install mplayer from cvs will overwrite the old mplayer files or not ? |
| 16:22.44 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 16:22.49 | marco13185 | streuner, err, I'm in windows now |
| 16:23.02 | rohan | thug_: not if you make a deb package |
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| 16:23.09 | jetscreamer | depends, thug_ |
| 16:23.13 | rohan | thug_: like, the cvs version of mplayer is already "debianized" |
| 16:23.16 | elinux | cahoot, grrr, if I start XMMS and play a sound, then start amarok, amarok wont till I restart it |
| 16:23.18 | thug_ | rohan i will not make a deb package |
| 16:23.30 | cahoot | elinux: you need software mixing - like art/esd or alsas dmix |
| 16:23.30 | rohan | thug_: so, after checkout from cvs, just do "debian/rules binary" to make a package |
| 16:23.33 | streuner | marco13185: install irssi and come back running debian |
| 16:23.38 | thug_ | jetscreamer i will use this how to http://johnvansickle.com/mplayer |
| 16:23.42 | rohan | thug_: in that case, you will need to apt-get remove mplayer before |
| 16:23.46 | pusling | is there a failsafe guide to upgrade woody => sarge over ssh on a machine on another continent ? |
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| 16:24.15 | elinux | cahoot, I have alsa installed |
| 16:24.17 | rohan | thug_: why do you want to follow it ? |
| 16:24.18 | marco13185 | streuner, I have ext3 support in doze, so I can use it |
| 16:24.21 | thug_ | rohan well i have already compile it and install it myself .. but sadly the old version :) i dint look and now im going to do it again from cvs |
| 16:24.24 | cahoot | elinux: you have an onboard sound card using snd-intel8x0 or such? |
| 16:24.32 | elinux | cahoot, yes |
| 16:24.34 | thug_ | rohan well to make it easyer for me |
| 16:24.38 | rohan | thug_: where it says ./config make make install , just type "debian/rules binary" |
| 16:24.54 | rohan | thug_: and all the ./configure options go to DEB_BUILD_OPTS |
| 16:25.06 | cahoot | elinux: then you need some software solution for playing > 1 sound simlutaneously |
| 16:25.12 | thug_ | rohan ohh i see |
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| 16:25.27 | rohan | thug_: so, DEB_BUILD_OPTS=--enable-largefiles --enable-gui --disable-runtime-detection debian/rules binart |
| 16:25.31 | rohan | thug_: so, DEB_BUILD_OPTS=--enable-largefiles --enable-gui --disable-runtime-detection debian/rules binary -- |
| 16:25.36 | rohan | that will give you a nice .deb |
| 16:25.42 | thug_ | ok i will try that thanks a lot |
| 16:25.53 | rohan | :) |
| 16:25.55 | elinux | cahoot, ok, and I have one of those installed (alsa, arts and esound) |
| 16:26.13 | elinux | cahoot, do I have to configure something for programs to use it |
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| 16:28.11 | elinux | cahoot, if I close everything and use sype, I see that /dev/dsp is used |
| 16:28.30 | elinux | cahoot, I guess it's OSS sound device which can only be opened once |
| 16:28.50 | elinux | cahoot, and thus, block every other applications from accessing the sound card |
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| 16:29.41 | marco13185 | (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 |
| 16:29.41 | marco13185 | (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 |
| 16:29.42 | marco13185 | (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor |
| 16:29.42 | marco13185 | (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) |
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| 16:29.49 | marco13185 | (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** |
| 16:29.51 | marco13185 | (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" |
| 16:29.53 | marco13185 | (II) UnloadModule: "ramdac" |
| 16:29.55 | marco13185 | (II) UnloadModule: "fb" |
| 16:29.57 | marco13185 | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
| 16:29.59 | marco13185 | Fatal server error: |
| 16:30.01 | marco13185 | no screens found |
| 16:30.03 | marco13185 | shit |
| 16:30.39 | marco13185 | sorry about that |
| 16:30.51 | n0t_flan | We missed the relevant part. |
| 16:30.56 | elinux | lol |
| 16:31.02 | rohan | marco13185: use pastebin.com |
| 16:31.03 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.04 | streuner | <marco13185> (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** |
| 16:31.16 | n0t_flan | Ah. |
| 16:31.24 | trenka | Ah |
| 16:31.25 | n0t_flan | But what caused the failure? |
| 16:31.44 | n0t_flan | I don't think fb usually dies when nvidia dies. |
| 16:31.50 | cahoot | elinux: yes skype won't let go of the device unless you do enable something called 'hijackdsp' or such - google for it |
| 16:32.02 | marco13185 | streuner, ya, I don't quite understand that |
| 16:32.04 | elinux | cahoot, cool |
| 16:32.15 | marco13185 | I know that dist-upgrade insists on upgrading the kernel even though it's the same version |
| 16:32.21 | elinux | cahoot, if I set arts as the sound device in amarok, it "plays" but I cant hear it |
| 16:32.38 | n0t_flan | marco13185, post the entire log at that pastebin thing. I think we all missed a line or two. |
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| 16:33.00 | marco13185 | n0t_flan, k, heh |
| 16:33.33 | cahoot | elinux: try to let xine use alsa:plug:dmix or such (not sure how xine wants it formatted) |
| 16:33.50 | cahoot | elinux: err amarok |
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| 16:34.15 | gpled | how do i get vlc for etch? |
| 16:34.20 | marco13185 | n0t_flan, http://pastebin.com/703683 |
| 16:34.35 | jetscreamer | install the sid or sarge version |
| 16:34.38 | cahoot | elinux: mplayer uses mplayer -ao alsa:device=plug=dmix fwiw |
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| 16:34.44 | elinux | cahoot, so many options in xine plugin :P |
| 16:34.49 | futurista | #debian-br |
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| 16:35.00 | chealer9 | gpled: get sid's |
| 16:35.00 | n0t_flan | marco13185, which version of Xorg is this? |
| 16:35.09 | marco13185 | the latest one in sid |
| 16:35.31 | n0t_flan | I'm in Experimental, so I'm not quite sure which version that is. >.>; |
| 16:35.35 | elinux | cahoot, device used for mono and stereo output: default |
| 16:35.36 | abrotman | gpled: you can't right now |
| 16:35.46 | marco13185 | n0t_flan, 7.0.0.0 |
| 16:35.53 | elinux | cahoot, alsa mixer device: PCM |
| 16:35.55 | marco13185 | however many .0 I'm not sure |
| 16:36.01 | marco13185 | ;) |
| 16:36.03 | gpled | is their a doc that explians how to get sid's for etch? |
| 16:36.06 | cahoot | elinux: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Setting_up_Dmix_for_ALSA |
| 16:36.09 | abrotman | gpled: use wget |
| 16:36.12 | jetscreamer | !pdo |
| 16:36.12 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 16:36.42 | n0t_flan | marco13185, are you looking at a console right now? |
| 16:36.43 | chealer9 | !tell gpled about esm |
| 16:36.48 | marco13185 | n0cturnal_, I'm in windows |
| 16:36.52 | marco13185 | but I have access to the file system |
| 16:36.56 | marco13185 | :D |
| 16:36.57 | abrotman | chealer9: isn't that a bit much ? |
| 16:36.58 | fas3r | i i don't understand because mod_env.so is in apache-common package but apache-common is for apache 1.3 not for apache 2 .and i use apache2 nobody have idea ? |
| 16:37.08 | abrotman | oh well |
| 16:37.28 | elinux | cahoot, I just dont know too much where to use these options |
| 16:37.59 | elinux | cahoot, I'd like to try the plug:dmix before getting too deep |
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| 16:38.19 | n0t_flan | marco13185, when you get a chance, find out if the kernel interface exists (su -c "modprobe nvidia"; lsmod | grep nvidia). That will try to load the module, then make sure it's registered. |
| 16:38.54 | marco13185 | n0t_flan, will just waiting for another dist-upgrade fix it? |
| 16:39.04 | marco13185 | possibly? |
| 16:39.05 | n0t_flan | marco13185, if that fails, you need to reinstall nvidia. If it succeeds, try killing the Composite extension or other options to see if one of them is broken. |
| 16:39.14 | chealer9 | abrotman: what, setting up an etch/sid mix to get vlc? what's the problem? do you seriously think "using wget" is better? there's a reason APT exists... |
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| 16:39.24 | Paul159190 | Hi all |
| 16:39.25 | gpled | has anyone done vlc from source on etch? did it work? |
| 16:39.27 | n0t_flan | marco13185, it's possible... Have you looked at the URL in the topic? |
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| 16:39.33 | n0t_flan | It has some stuff about nvidia in Sid. |
| 16:39.48 | Paul159190 | I have an apple performa, does anybody know what Video driver l should specify for it to us, ie vga or fbdev, l mean what is the generic one? thanks!! |
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| 16:40.11 | abrotman | chealer9: no there's not .. it's not real code .. it's an illusion :) |
| 16:40.18 | ian_ | how do you get a package to recreate a file (eg /etc/init.d/courier-pop ) ? |
| 16:40.22 | tarzeau | Paul159190: is that with ppc? or m68k? or intel? try #debianppc maybe? |
| 16:40.27 | Paul159190 | PPC |
| 16:40.28 | tarzeau | gpled: checked backports.org yet? |
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| 16:40.42 | chealer9 | abrotman: aah! OK, so let's teach him how to do dselect mixes |
| 16:40.46 | tarzeau | abrotman: you should also try windows ;) |
| 16:41.04 | abrotman | chealer9: can we .. that'd be a good way to spend .. the next three days |
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| 16:41.50 | chealer9 | abrotman: I was just looking for something like that! |
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| 16:42.18 | Paul159190 | lol nvm l got it working , ok new question |
| 16:42.41 | Paul159190 | I have started debian for the first time , lm at the itnro page which says ' welcome to KDE 3.3.2 ' but its like too big, its missing half of the screen |
| 16:42.46 | Paul159190 | how do l resize it to speak? |
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| 16:43.18 | tarzeau | Paul159190: #debian-kde |
| 16:43.26 | tarzeau | Paul159190: do you know your screen resolution? |
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| 16:43.32 | marco13185 | n0t_flan, the bts seems to say that xinit -e windowmanagerhere works |
| 16:43.33 | Paul159190 | yeah, it should be 800x600 |
| 16:43.45 | rohan | Paul159190: and what do you want it to be ? |
| 16:43.46 | tarzeau | Paul159190: can you count the pixels to be sure? |
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| 16:44.00 | rohan | tarzeau: lol |
| 16:44.00 | Paul159190 | I want it to be 800x600, so that it all fits on the screen :) |
| 16:44.08 | tarzeau | rohan: ;) |
| 16:44.31 | rohan | tarzeau: you didnt to !popcon ? |
| 16:44.43 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 16:44.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 16:44.50 | rohan | tarzeau: ;) |
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| 16:44.58 | tarzeau | rohan: i almost forgot, without you! |
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| 16:45.12 | gpled | their is something i do not understand. etch is testing, because it has new packages that have not been called stable. but it seems it does not get new packages fast. am i missing something? |
| 16:45.17 | ferronica | guys how to play mp3 in ubuntu what codecs do i need??? |
| 16:45.23 | ferronica | any help |
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| 16:45.41 | rohan | tarzeau: hehe :D |
| 16:45.43 | tarzeau | ferronica: this is not #ubuntu |
| 16:45.49 | Ronin | ferronica: #ubuntu would know best |
| 16:45.49 | rohan | 59.182.13.68/~rohan --> is that viewable |
| 16:45.56 | n0t_flan | ferronica, bstreamer-mad is required, but as tarzeau said, this isn't that place to ask. |
| 16:46.01 | rohan | ferronica: sudo apt-get install xmms gstreamer0.8-plugins-mad |
| 16:46.05 | n0t_flan | gstreamer-mad* |
| 16:46.07 | rohan | ferronica: but, also ask in #ubuntu |
| 16:46.27 | ferronica | they banned me |
| 16:46.30 | rohan | ferronica: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats |
| 16:46.32 | Ronin | heh |
| 16:46.38 | rohan | ferronica: why did they ban you ? |
| 16:46.59 | elinux | cahoot, is dmixer over or under alsa? |
| 16:47.03 | ferronica | i am asking so many question they get frustrated |
| 16:47.04 | chealer9 | gpled: it seems so. etch is not called testing because it has packages that have not been called stable, it's called testing because the whole suite/branch/distribution wasn't released yet |
| 16:47.08 | abrotman | it doesn't matter .. ask in #ubuntu |
| 16:47.19 | tarzeau | ferronica: getting banned in #ubuntu doesn't entitle you to bore debian people |
| 16:47.29 | rohan | ferronica: bad. ask not more than 2 times |
| 16:47.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: some people have funny ideas |
| 16:47.33 | abrotman | ferronica: try ##linux |
| 16:47.38 | rohan | ferronica: but, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats |
| 16:47.45 | thug_ | ferronica http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76132.html copy and paste this in your source.list sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then run sudo apt-get update |
| 16:48.00 | rohan | noooo |
| 16:48.01 | abrotman | rohan: this is not #ubuntu |
| 16:48.04 | abrotman | thug_: same for you |
| 16:48.06 | elinux | cahoot, not so bad, gave some args for mono and stereo output (hw:0,0)... but absolutely dont know what it is |
| 16:48.12 | abrotman | if you want to help him .. take it to #ubuntu |
| 16:48.12 | rohan | abrotman: a user needing help .. |
| 16:48.13 | thug_ | ferronica then sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad |
| 16:48.19 | thug_ | abrotman sorry guys |
| 16:48.19 | abrotman | rohan: NOT with debian |
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| 16:48.40 | elinux | cahoot, I see in XMMS that it uses PCM as mixer |
| 16:48.45 | rohan | abrotman: people like you create rifts between ubuntu/debian :P |
| 16:48.54 | thingfish | hah |
| 16:49.00 | abrotman | rohan: no .. this is a support channel for Debian .. Ubuntu has their own . use it |
| 16:49.02 | tarzeau | rohan: abrotman is fine |
| 16:49.13 | tarzeau | rohan: but ubuntu makes packages different |
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| 16:49.22 | tarzeau | rohan: for example cups webadmin doesn't work. in debian works fine |
| 16:49.26 | rohan | abrotman: he just said he was banned. anyway, i get your point |
| 16:49.29 | rohan | tarzeau: oh, ic |
| 16:49.34 | tarzeau | rohan: and you can't ask a debian user to also have ubuntu and support both |
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| 16:49.41 | tarzeau | rohan: these people here are debian people |
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| 16:49.46 | abrotman | rohan: that's not our problem .. if you really want to help him .. you can both /join #ferronicaneedshelp |
| 16:49.57 | elinux | cahoot, amaroK uses it too |
| 16:49.58 | rohan | abrotman: i said, i get your point :) |
| 16:50.34 | cahoot | elinux: so you can use xmms and amarok simultaneously now? |
| 16:51.00 | rohan | on apache2 in debian, do i need to do anything special to get my server "viewable" by the outside world ? |
| 16:51.17 | abrotman | viewable how? via dns? or just the pages working? |
| 16:51.26 | elinux | cahoot, almost... |
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| 16:51.42 | rohan | abrotman: like, someone types 59.182.13.68/~rohan and sees what i see on localhost/~rohan |
| 16:51.42 | elinux | cahoot, dont have to restart them, but have to stop one so the other work |
| 16:51.44 | Blissex | rohan: if you use a firewall script, usually you need to enable each incoming port separately. |
| 16:51.54 | elinux | cahoot, you know what the hw:0,0 is? |
| 16:51.55 | abrotman | rohan: you'd need your ISP to not block that for starters |
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| 16:52.05 | Blissex | rohan: almost all firewall scripts disable all incoming ports by default. |
| 16:52.15 | ian_ | how do you restore init.d files for a package? |
| 16:52.15 | cahoot | elinux: that's the default (first) alsa device |
| 16:52.22 | rohan | abrotman: i have a router, setup proper. works on windows and other distros |
| 16:52.23 | abrotman | !tell ian_ about confmiss |
| 16:52.31 | thug_ | why channel PCM doenst turn the volume down ? |
| 16:52.36 | abrotman | rohan: so you're saying you've misconfigured apache? |
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| 16:52.37 | rohan | Blissex: oh, but i am not aware of installing any firwall manually .. is a default one setup for me ? |
| 16:52.38 | gpled | which debian flavor would be the most uptodate, and have packages soon after new source is released? that includeds core things like the latest gcc |
| 16:52.48 | tarzeau | gpled: sid |
| 16:52.52 | ian_ | abrotman: thanks |
| 16:52.54 | abrotman | aka .. unstable |
| 16:53.00 | tarzeau | gpled: debian doesn't have flavors |
| 16:53.02 | rohan | abrotman: i have not really even edited apache2 confs, except enable the "UserDir" module |
| 16:53.16 | rohan | abrotman: thats what i do on other distros, and apache is jut viewable from outside world |
| 16:53.17 | abrotman | rohan: do they work internally ? |
| 16:53.19 | tarzeau | gpled: it's got a flower, the logo. and different repositories? |
| 16:53.20 | valdyn | rohan: how do you think someone 'from outside' is able to get thru your router to your web server? |
| 16:53.22 | rohan | *just |
| 16:53.22 | Blissex | rohan: well, you should :-) have one. But IIRC Debian setup does not install one by default |
| 16:53.31 | abrotman | it does not |
| 16:53.49 | elinux | cahoot, do I have to set them so they both use the same alsa device or different ones? |
| 16:53.51 | n0t_flan | rohan, 80/tcp filtered http |
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| 16:54.02 | n0t_flan | That's from the IP you provided. |
| 16:54.02 | Bac9 | what's the "Debian Way" (tm) to select which NIC becomes eth0 and which eth1? |
| 16:54.05 | abrotman | could be his router |
| 16:54.14 | cahoot | elinux: unless you get another soundcard (soundblaster par preference) you have some reading and work to do: here's another url: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix#ALSA_Approach |
| 16:54.22 | valdyn | looks like his isp =/ |
| 16:54.32 | n0t_flan | rohan, the port isn't open, so you'll need to set access rules or something. |
| 16:54.33 | abrotman | Bac9: ifname is one way .. or you can use modules rules to do that |
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| 16:54.47 | ferronica | rohan: r u from india???? |
| 16:54.55 | elinux | cahoot, I dont mind reading, as long as I know what to read about ;) |
| 16:54.59 | elinux | cahoot, thx for urls |
| 16:54.59 | cahoot | elinux: that's the default (first) alsa device - that has nothing to do with enabling dmix really |
| 16:55.03 | abrotman | rohan: see .. that's why |
| 16:55.03 | Bac9 | abrotman: I need it to be done before /etc/fstab is read, so which way do I use? |
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| 16:55.12 | chealer9 | gpled: "soon" is relative, but no release guarantees to have updates after any period of time |
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| 16:55.30 | abrotman | Bac9: i'd guess modules .. |
| 16:55.30 | valdyn | Bac9: depends on your NIC driver |
| 16:55.40 | thug_ | hmm any ideea why channel PCM doesnt turn the volume down in mplayer ? |
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| 16:55.40 | Bac9 | abrotman: how? |
| 16:55.45 | elinux | cahoot, maybe a last question before I start my readings |
| 16:55.55 | Bac9 | valdyn: ne2k_pci and tulip |
| 16:55.58 | abrotman | look in /etc/modutils/ |
| 16:56.09 | valdyn | Bac9: modinfo ne2k_pci | grep ifname |
| 16:56.18 | elinux | cahoot, I close volume control and since then, it wont return to the notification tray (system tray) |
| 16:56.28 | Bac9 | abrotman: and what do I do in there? (I ask because I tried and did not succeed, so just in case I did it wrong) |
| 16:56.29 | cahoot | thug_: does '/' and '*' work? |
| 16:56.58 | cahoot | elinux: no idea - gnome or kde thing? |
| 16:57.14 | valdyn | i do wonder what fstab has got to do with NIC naming |
| 16:57.18 | elinux | cahoot, gnome |
| 16:57.21 | gpled | chealer9: is that because the process of taking source and making a package is cumbersome? |
| 16:57.22 | abrotman | Bac9: pre-install <blah> modproble <blah2> |
| 16:57.26 | elinux | cahoot, Volume Control |
| 16:57.30 | cahoot | elinux: still no idea ;) |
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| 16:57.41 | Bac9 | valdyn: no ifname found in modinfo output |
| 16:57.49 | HoNgOuRu | hi |
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| 16:57.53 | HoNgOuRu | ti alkl |
| 16:57.56 | ferronica | what codecs do i need to play mp3 |
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| 16:58.02 | ferronica | please !!!!!!!!! |
| 16:58.03 | HoNgOuRu | w32codecs |
| 16:58.03 | valdyn | Bac9: so that way wont work obviously |
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| 16:58.09 | rohan | sorry was afk for a bit |
| 16:58.10 | abrotman | ferronica: please go to #ubuntu |
| 16:58.12 | tarzeau | ferronica: you don't have debian |
| 16:58.12 | Bac9 | valdyn: fstab mounts NFS, so network needs to be working before NFS is mounted |
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| 16:58.18 | HoNgOuRu | ah... |
| 16:58.21 | rohan | yes, abrotman it works from my own pc as localhost |
| 16:58.24 | elinux | cahoot, thank you very much for your time |
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| 16:58.36 | Bac9 | abrotman: can you elaborate on "<abrotman> Bac9: pre-install <blah> modproble <blah2>" please |
| 16:58.37 | chealer9 | gpled: hum, not necessarily. it can be for trivial reasons, like, there is a single maintainer, and he is busy with non-Debian work since monthes. |
| 16:58.38 | rohan | valdyn: by typing 59.182.13.68/~rohan .. as they would, on other distros/windows |
| 16:58.39 | cahoot | elinux: yw - have fun |
| 16:58.44 | ferronica | i told u they hav banned me , now when i try to join it |
| 16:58.46 | valdyn | Bac9: you really arent helped by having your nics named just before fstab is used then |
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| 16:58.52 | HoNgOuRu | ferronica, if u have synaptic installed look for xmms-mp |
| 16:58.55 | abrotman | ferronica: tough crap .. it's not our problem |
| 16:58.55 | HoNgOuRu | or something |
| 16:58.57 | abrotman | HoNgOuRu: STOP |
| 16:59.01 | rohan | n0t_flan: how do i do that ? |
| 16:59.03 | tarzeau | ferronica: that's not #debian peoples problem, but yours |
| 16:59.07 | HoNgOuRu | ok |
| 16:59.08 | abrotman | ferronica: ask them to unban .. you are NOT using debian .. |
| 16:59.14 | ferronica | #ubuntu says you are banned |
| 16:59.15 | rohan | ferronica: yes i am from india |
| 16:59.18 | tarzeau | ferronica: /msg lilo HELP ME |
| 16:59.20 | rohan | ferronica: you, too ? |
| 16:59.22 | tarzeau | ferronica: or go to #freenode |
| 16:59.22 | Bac9 | valdyn: I need the networn\k to be up, and /etc/network/interfaces is tied to nic names |
| 16:59.23 | abrotman | ferronica: that isn't our problem |
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| 16:59.34 | rohan | ferronica: really, you will be banned here too, soon :) |
| 16:59.37 | valdyn | Bac9: /etc/fstab is evaluated twice |
| 16:59.42 | rohan | ferronica: if you dont stop asking about ubuntu |
| 16:59.43 | tarzeau | rohan: long ago if i had ops |
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| 16:59.56 | rohan | tarzeau: hehe |
| 17:00.03 | abrotman | i concur |
| 17:00.12 | Bac9 | valdyn: so the network must be configured before fstab is last evaluated |
| 17:00.15 | valdyn | Bac9: and you defenitely dont need to have your network up before its evaluated the first time |
| 17:00.21 | elinux | does debian users hate ubuntu that much? |
| 17:00.22 | ferronica | thats kool if ur from india |
| 17:00.27 | rohan | elinux: i dont |
| 17:00.27 | ferronica | i am from shillong |
| 17:00.30 | abrotman | elinux: that's not the point |
| 17:00.32 | rohan | ferronica: aha, good |
| 17:00.39 | tarzeau | elinux: no, only if they're botherin people here |
| 17:00.45 | rohan | well, so how do i unblock my tcp/port 80 on debian ? |
| 17:00.46 | abrotman | elinux: ubuntu has their own support channel .. |
| 17:00.52 | valdyn | Bac9: just use ifrename ( apt-cache show ifrename ) |
| 17:01.03 | abrotman | rohan: something is filtering it .. valdyn seemed to think it was your ISP |
| 17:01.03 | ferronica | ok as u wish guys I DONT CARE |
| 17:01.09 | valdyn | Bac9: with its default initscript and /etc/iftab |
| 17:01.09 | elinux | abrotman, yeah, saw it in the topic This isn't #ubuntu :P |
| 17:01.18 | ferronica | rohan pm me |
| 17:01.22 | rohan | valdyn, abrotman : its not my isp, surely. |
| 17:01.24 | abrotman | rohan: don't do it! |
| 17:01.30 | cahoot | elinux: the debian user mailing list has a more pragmatic approach |
| 17:01.34 | rohan | abrotman: ;) |
| 17:01.35 | valdyn | rohan: how do you know that? |
| 17:01.40 | Bac9 | valdyn: oh? it renames before the network comes up? |
| 17:01.44 | abrotman | many home ISPs block port 80 |
| 17:01.47 | valdyn | Bac9: yes sure |
| 17:01.55 | rohan | valdyn: because "outside world" can access my server from 59.182.13.68/~rohan |
| 17:01.56 | valdyn | Bac9: renaming cant be done after network is up |
| 17:02.20 | valdyn | rohan: cant access what? |
| 17:02.31 | valdyn | rohan: err, 'cant access what?' ? web pages? |
| 17:02.34 | ferronica | rohan |
| 17:02.36 | valdyn | rohan: err, 'can access what?' ? web pages? |
| 17:02.38 | valdyn | fucking t |
| 17:02.38 | rohan | valdyn: yes, web pags |
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| 17:02.48 | ferronica | rohan: r u busy??? |
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| 17:03.01 | abrotman | !tell ferronica about u |
| 17:03.02 | abrotman | !tell ferronica about r |
| 17:03.09 | valdyn | rohan: so what or why are you asking us on how to make apache2 accessible from outside then? |
| 17:03.21 | abrotman | i can't get to that url |
| 17:03.23 | abrotman | or host rather |
| 17:03.29 | Meads | Hi, can someone reccomend me a debian based distro that ships with gnome by default please? |
| 17:03.32 | rohan | ferronica: no |
| 17:03.37 | abrotman | Meads: Debian |
| 17:03.41 | rohan | valdyn: because its not, from debian |
| 17:03.44 | tarzeau | Meads: #ubuntu |
| 17:03.51 | Bac9 | valdyn: k, I'll try installing that, I thought these utilities could only be run post-boot |
| 17:03.51 | ferronica | rohan: pm me |
| 17:03.56 | rohan | valdyn: from other distros/windows |
| 17:03.58 | abrotman | rohan: don't do it! |
| 17:04.00 | valdyn | rohan: you're trying to use 2 webservers at once? |
| 17:04.02 | Meads | Is there any others apart from ubuntu |
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| 17:04.03 | rohan | valdyn: no |
| 17:04.06 | rohan | valdyn: i am in debian now |
| 17:04.07 | ferronica | rohan why???? |
| 17:04.10 | tarzeau | Meads: debian |
| 17:04.11 | rohan | valdyn: from frugalware, it works |
| 17:04.17 | tarzeau | Meads: this is not ##linux |
| 17:04.20 | abrotman | Meads: surely there are .. check debian.org for children distros |
| 17:04.27 | abrotman | Meads: or ask google |
| 17:04.29 | abrotman | or use debian |
| 17:04.32 | valdyn | rohan: is your local IP the same on both systems? |
| 17:04.33 | abrotman | since debian has gnome |
| 17:04.47 | valdyn | rohan: rather, both OSes |
| 17:04.50 | rohan | valdyn: no, i use dynamic ip. so it changes. |
| 17:05.04 | valdyn | rohan: LOCAL ip is dynamic? |
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| 17:05.08 | valdyn | rohan: what is it currently? |
| 17:05.11 | rohan | valdyn: 59.182.13.68 |
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| 17:05.20 | valdyn | rohan: thats not a fucking local ip |
| 17:05.30 | abrotman | you mean private |
| 17:05.34 | rohan | valdyn: yes, thats the ip outside world uses |
| 17:05.37 | valdyn | abrotman: yea |
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| 17:05.57 | thug_ | ferronica did you get your mp3 working ? |
| 17:05.57 | valdyn | rohan: yea, but what matters for me right now is your private ip |
| 17:06.06 | ferronica | not yet |
| 17:06.07 | rohan | valdyn, abrotman : other distro/windows can see the pages, on debian i see "denied" |
| 17:06.10 | zinx | valdyn: it's 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:06.15 | rohan | valdyn: ok, how do i find my private ip ? |
| 17:06.16 | ferronica | i think i need codecs |
| 17:06.19 | valdyn | zinx: yay |
| 17:06.26 | ferronica | i dont know how to get it |
| 17:06.30 | zinx | valdyn: don't assume everyone has an ip on a private network |
| 17:06.33 | ferronica | and from where to d/l |
| 17:06.38 | blondie | can you tell if a serial port is enabled in the bios from within linux? |
| 17:06.43 | abrotman | ferronica: you're in the wrong channel .. use #ubuntu |
| 17:06.48 | valdyn | zinx: im not assuming more than i can |
| 17:06.55 | ferronica | they banned me i told u |
| 17:07.00 | blondie | ferronica: tough |
| 17:07.01 | abrotman | ferronica: then use ##linux |
| 17:07.03 | ferronica | now is there any way to log in again |
| 17:07.03 | rohan | ferronica:i gave you the link atleast 3 times - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and dont ask again, they will ban you here too |
| 17:07.05 | zinx | blondie: if it's detected, then it's probably enabled |
| 17:07.05 | tarzeau | !ops ferronica needs a spanking |
| 17:07.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: ferronica needs a spanking |
| 17:07.14 | rohan | ferronica: and i will not post that link again, too |
| 17:07.20 | ferronica | ok ok |
| 17:07.27 | ferronica | from that link what to d/l |
| 17:07.31 | rohan | ferronica: else "they" will ban me too ;) |
| 17:07.31 | valdyn | rohan: your router has an internet address ( you named it above: 59.182.13.68 ), that is right? |
| 17:07.33 | ferronica | what command to use |
| 17:07.40 | abrotman | ferronica: go to ##linux .. please |
| 17:07.50 | rohan | valdyn: yes. i found it from whatismyip.com |
| 17:07.51 | ferronica | rohan: ok i will go |
| 17:07.56 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 17:08.03 | abrotman | we're all going down! |
| 17:08.07 | rohan | ferronica: no one is asking you to go. just, dont ask buntu questions |
| 17:08.10 | ferronica | rohan: buddied i am newbie help me comon |
| 17:08.21 | rohan | ferronica: i already pm'ed you thrice |
| 17:08.26 | blondie | you're a newbie? :O |
| 17:08.31 | rohan | not heeding abrotman 's warnings :D |
| 17:08.31 | abrotman | ferronica: i told you .. go to ##linux |
| 17:08.50 | ferronica | :O |
| 17:08.56 | ferronica | Oooopsssssss |
| 17:08.58 | mentor | ferronica: Do you have a support query about Debian? |
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| 17:09.04 | rohan | ferronica: check your pms !! |
| 17:09.08 | abrotman | ferronica: if you persist asking Ubuntu questions in here . you'll likely get banned |
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| 17:09.12 | ferronica | pm me again |
| 17:09.25 | abrotman | rohan: don't do it! |
| 17:09.27 | ferronica | ok i am going everyone wanna to kick mw |
| 17:09.29 | ferronica | me* |
| 17:09.35 | usual | my dvd drive boots into the install from a dvd but the installer does not recognize my drive. How can I get the installed to use my drive? |
| 17:09.36 | rohan | abrotman: hehe |
| 17:09.36 | ferronica | byeeeeeeee thanxxxxx so much |
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| 17:09.46 | rohan | ferronica: join #rohan |
| 17:09.46 | abrotman | rohan: he probably can't PM you back . .he's not registered |
| 17:09.50 | alfatau | hello, i wanted to ask a question about syslog reading manpages i'm unable to understand: can i set my own facilities for be able to separate syslog outputs? for example: kern facilitiy refers to kernel messages, and if i want to refer to iptables messages (for log), and/or log iptables messages in different logfiles such as tcpinput.log, udpoutput.log ecc... ? |
| 17:09.53 | valdyn | rohan: run: LC_ALL=C ifconfig | grep -i 'inet addr:' |
| 17:10.11 | rohan | valdyn: |
| 17:10.11 | rohan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.12 | rohan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.21 | rohan | abrotman: oh, i see |
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| 17:10.29 | rohan | ferronica: join #rohan |
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| 17:10.35 | valdyn | rohan: 192.168.1.3 that is your private network address |
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| 17:10.47 | valdyn | nm |
| 17:11.02 | rohan | valdyn: oh, ok |
| 17:11.09 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- I need to know if this is a good bundle for $99.99: Pentium 4 Processor 506 (2.66Ghz/1MB L2 Cache) and a ECS P4M800Pro-M Motherboard |
| 17:11.14 | SexyKen | $99 bucks |
| 17:11.18 | mentor | rohan: OK, enough of arranging the PMs in channel, it's getting abit annoying |
| 17:11.27 | abrotman | !beer mentor |
| 17:11.34 | rohan | yes sorry, mentor , i wont do it again |
| 17:11.38 | valdyn | rohan: now, your router has to forward http requests to that address, i dont know if it does |
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| 17:11.49 | rohan | yes, valdyn , http://192.168.1.3/~rohan/ is same as localhost/~rohan |
| 17:11.50 | valdyn | rohan: and i dont know which your private address is using different OSes |
| 17:12.06 | mentor | rohan: Well, it was the repetition of requests that was the problem. |
| 17:12.20 | gpled | how can i play a wav file at command line? |
| 17:12.27 | tarzeau | gpled: using play (from sox) |
| 17:12.31 | rohan | valdyn: oh, i see. in router, i have setup port 80 forwarded to port 80 |
| 17:12.32 | tarzeau | gpled: opencubicplayer works too |
| 17:12.44 | streuner | gpled: bplay |
| 17:12.50 | valdyn | rohan: to port 80 and which adress? |
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| 17:13.15 | rohan | mentor: yes, he was repeatedly told not to ask. but, he uses bsnl net, the one i use. its dynamic, and his ip will change next time. so banning my ip, imho, isnt the best idea ? |
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| 17:13.35 | rohan | valdyn: it didnt give the option to forward a port to a specific address |
| 17:13.36 | tux | how to get the parent package for a given command like ls, grep, patch ... |
| 17:13.40 | rohan | its Dlink DSL 502t |
| 17:13.51 | valdyn | tux: dpkg -S `which ls` |
| 17:14.21 | mentor | rohan: umm well, he can change his IP, name, username, etc...so... |
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| 17:14.37 | tux | valdyn, thz |
| 17:14.45 | rohan | mentor: but i dont think he will ask again ;) |
| 17:14.49 | HoNgOuRu | hi |
| 17:14.55 | SexyKen | No one has any idea? |
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| 17:15.03 | PDani | hi |
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| 17:15.15 | valdyn | rohan: forwarding 80 to 80 is a 'donothing' operation |
| 17:15.18 | rohan | 22:42 < ferronica> how they can ban me, r they owner of IRC or what ---> mentor ;) |
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| 17:15.50 | PDani | how can i determine the device file of a bus,target,lun triple? |
| 17:15.58 | mentor | rohan: If ferronica wants to talk to me, she can PM me. |
| 17:16.05 | rohan | valdyn: oh, i see it is using 192.168.1.2 instead of .3... how do i change it from debian ? |
| 17:16.20 | valdyn | rohan: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 |
| 17:16.22 | mentor | assuming ferronica is female, else he can PM me. |
| 17:16.34 | valdyn | rohan: ( for now) for permanent change read 'man interfaces' |
| 17:16.38 | rohan | mentor: hehe, he didnt ask me to tell you. i am just telling you. |
| 17:17.03 | valdyn | rohan: err, make that 'killall dhclient; ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2' |
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| 17:17.53 | valdyn | rohan: but keep in mind you CANNOT use 2 systems using the same IP at a time |
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| 17:18.31 | abrotman | you can .. just one won't work :) |
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| 17:18.45 | rohan_ | bllaaa valdyn that filled me |
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| 17:18.57 | valdyn | hah |
| 17:19.06 | rohan_ | but, thanks a LOT valdyn i will read the man page and set it up properly :) |
| 17:19.08 | rohan_ | !beer valdyn |
| 17:19.11 | ribnitz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:19.50 | HoNgOuRu | does someone installed correctly an ati 9800 pro with debian sarge? |
| 17:20.15 | rohan | valdyn: even when doing 'sudo ifup eth0' bound to 192.168.1.3 -- renewal in 1800 seconds. |
| 17:20.26 | rohan | valdyn: so i just need to change the "bound to" address right ? |
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| 17:21.12 | valdyn | rohan: in your router? |
| 17:21.21 | ribnitz | is there a gpg key for nerim.net? |
| 17:21.29 | rohan | valdyn: oh, ok. |
| 17:21.34 | abrotman | ribnitz: yes |
| 17:21.47 | abrotman | ribnitz: /msg dpkg marillat key |
| 17:21.56 | valdyn | rohan: you cant change the bound to like that, its what your router ( dhcp server ) tells your debian system to use |
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| 17:22.24 | valdyn | rohan: you'd best set your router to forward port 80 to 192.168.1.3 |
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| 17:22.49 | valdyn | rohan: and read 'man interfaces' anyway to get a STATIC ip address |
| 17:22.52 | rohan | valdyn: yes, or just remove 192.168.1.3 from list of ip's |
| 17:22.54 | rohan | valdyn: oh, ok. |
| 17:23.15 | valdyn | rohan: having your web servers IP be random wont do no good.. |
| 17:23.33 | rohan | valdyn: ok, i am setting up port forward 80 for both .2 and .3 |
| 17:23.39 | streuner | Hongohttp://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 17:23.45 | valdyn | rohan: that cant work |
| 17:23.49 | streuner | HoNgOuRu: http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 17:24.10 | HoNgOuRu | thanx |
| 17:24.13 | rohan | valdyn: yes, its not allowing me to add |
| 17:24.15 | abrotman | !ati |
| 17:24.15 | HoNgOuRu | im going |
| 17:24.15 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
| 17:24.18 | valdyn | i think flavio just forwards to ATI's installer now |
| 17:24.20 | tarzeau | streuner: i think this is not recommended anymore |
| 17:24.27 | tarzeau | valdyn: yes, so does #ati |
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| 17:24.33 | rohan | valdyn: then how does it work on other distros ? (they all use dhcpcd not dhclient) |
| 17:24.36 | valdyn | HoNgOuRu: ATI's installer can generate valid debs |
| 17:24.41 | rohan | valdyn: i am not comparing distros, just for my knowledge |
| 17:24.51 | valdyn | rohan: wrong, those are 2 different programs doing different things |
| 17:24.54 | streuner | tarzeau: well, if you read the News there you have additional infos about... |
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| 17:25.03 | valdyn | rohan: any serious distro has both |
| 17:25.06 | marco13185 | hey, how do I scroll in CLI? |
| 17:25.18 | marco13185 | or better yet, how do I reconfigure xorg with dpkg? |
| 17:25.26 | streuner | tarzeau: the NEWS recommend xorg from backports too ;-) |
| 17:25.30 | abrotman | shift-pkgup |
| 17:25.33 | abrotman | pgup |
| 17:25.35 | abrotman | !drxx marco13185 |
| 17:25.36 | dpkg | marco13185: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:25.43 | tarzeau | streuner: i wasn't refering to the topic but the http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
| 17:25.55 | rohan | valdyn: well, then frugalware is not a serious distro ;) anyway, dhcpcd "binds to" 192.168.1.2 ? unlike dhclient on debian ? |
| 17:25.56 | tarzeau | streuner: i had an ati at work, i did that. it works. it's good |
| 17:26.02 | fas3r | nobody know what's the name of the modules mod_env.so ... because for load modules in apache2 it's with the command a2enmod "name_of_module" |
| 17:26.14 | streuner | tarzeau: hehe :-) |
| 17:26.26 | gpled | their is no stable cd installer for AMD64? |
| 17:26.37 | valdyn | rohan: dhcbd is a dhcp server, dhclient is a dhcp client , dhcpcd probably doesnt exist |
| 17:26.45 | fas3r | gpled, yes but you need to use kernel-smp |
| 17:26.52 | valdyn | s/dhcbd/dhcpd |
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| 17:27.18 | rohan | valdyn: do apt-cache policy dhcpcd -- it exists even on debian :) |
| 17:27.27 | streuner | HoNgOuRu: you heard it, http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt |
| 17:27.41 | marco13185 | how do I force dpkg to write a new file if the old one has been customized? |
| 17:28.00 | HoNgOuRu | im reading |
| 17:28.03 | HoNgOuRu | thax a lot |
| 17:28.09 | valdyn | rohan: ok, you win, that is another dhcp client, shouldnt make a different which one you use |
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| 17:28.38 | valdyn | rohan: _however_ your router can have its own criteria as to which addresses to hand out ( independent of dhcp client you use ) |
| 17:28.51 | rohan | valdyn: well, i guess just deleting 192.168.1.3 would solve it ? |
| 17:29.00 | marco13185 | how do I force dpkg to write a new file if the old one has been customized? |
| 17:29.02 | valdyn | rohan: delete where? |
| 17:29.19 | rohan | valdyn: from my router "Lan Clients" |
| 17:29.34 | AnyFile | Has somebody an explanation to give to me why during the istallation process the dns resolving fails and every hostnames are resolved to 1.0.0.1 , but if I ping them they are often resolved? |
| 17:29.42 | falkon | Anyone know anything about an error I keep getting through bzip2 when I try to do an apt-get update? Here's the error: bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. |
| 17:29.42 | valdyn | rohan: i dont understant your routers proprietary terminology |
| 17:29.42 | rohan | bleh, well, i cant delete that ip, valdyn .. its routers ;) |
| 17:29.45 | falkon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.46 | streuner | dpkg, no ati is <reply> wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt |
| 17:29.46 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
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| 17:30.36 | rohan | valdyn: yes.. but what are the general instructions to get the router to tell debian to use 192.168.1.2 and not .3 ? in my router, .2 is listed under static ip, and .3 under dynamic addresses |
| 17:30.44 | marco13185 | how do I force dpkg to write a new file if the old one has been customized? |
| 17:30.53 | masterra | does anyone know what ti means when i try to mount a filesystem, but i get an error saying it's already mounted or the mount point is busy? (but of course, it's not already mounted, and i've tried many different mount points) |
| 17:31.13 | tarzeau | masterra: what command do you type exactly? |
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| 17:31.49 | marco13185 | I need help starting my xserver |
| 17:32.02 | masterra | tarzeau: mount /dev/hdc /mnt/temp |
| 17:32.04 | valdyn | rohan: you need always the same IP of your choice for your debian box, you need your router to forward port 80 to that IP |
| 17:32.12 | tarzeau | masterra: you don't have paritions? |
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| 17:32.39 | masterra | tarzeau: and here is where it gets totally crazy.. i had just given up on my data, and for the fun of it was palying around, and check this out - if i type mount -o loop,ro /dev/hdc /mnt/temp, it works! (i'm just trying to recover data at this point, it's a damanged fs) |
| 17:32.40 | rohan | valdyn: suppose that is 192.168.1.3 .. how, then ? |
| 17:32.44 | masterra | tarzeau: no, i don't. dont' ask ;) |
| 17:32.54 | valdyn | rohan: i cant help your with setting up that router |
| 17:33.01 | tarzeau | masterra: what filesystem? changed kernel? |
| 17:33.10 | rohan | valdyn: oh ok :/ |
| 17:33.29 | rohan | valdyn: thanks for helping me this long ! :) |
| 17:34.20 | falkon | Whenever I try to run apt-get update I get this error: bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing. Anyone have any ideas or know of any fixes? |
| 17:34.44 | valdyn | falkon: use a different mirror |
| 17:35.05 | AnyFile | Where can i get a list of realible mirrors? |
| 17:35.06 | rohan | valdyn: this is what i have in /etc/network/interfaces --> iface eth0 inet dhcp --> is that correct ? |
| 17:35.26 | valdyn | rohan: its not wrong, it means your router decides your IP |
| 17:35.56 | rohan | valdyn: ok, i will read the man page further to set it to let debian decide the ip .. to be 192.168.1.2 :) |
| 17:36.01 | valdyn | rohan: actually, your dhcp server does, but that's your router too anyway |
| 17:36.08 | rohan | yes |
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| 17:37.06 | AnyFile | valdyn, maybe you can configure your router to always give the same IP to your debian set (via the name passed when requesting the IP) |
| 17:37.17 | masterra | tarzeau: it's ext3, and yes i did recently change the kernel.. |
| 17:37.27 | tarzeau | masterra: from which kernel to which kernel? |
| 17:37.31 | masterra | tarzeau: another user on my system reported the same error when trying to mount an NFS share.. |
| 17:37.34 | rat_poison | anyone here has experience with wireless lan 802.11B on Prism2 card (SMC) and hostap? |
| 17:37.35 | tarzeau | masterra: is the hd ide? sata? scsi? |
| 17:37.45 | tarzeau | masterra: maybe you forgot something in the kernel? |
| 17:37.50 | masterra | tarzeau: umm... from something like 2.6.10 to the current.. |
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| 17:37.57 | masterra | tarzeau: hd is ide, using stock debian kernels |
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| 17:38.02 | rohan | valdyn: in the options for dhcp in man interfaces i dont see where to set the up |
| 17:38.03 | masterra | tarzeau: my other ide drive works fine |
| 17:38.04 | rohan | *ip |
| 17:38.12 | rat_poison | I have never used a wifi card prior to this so I would require some hints, links. I can move on from there. |
| 17:38.13 | masterra | tarzeau: as does my ide cdrom |
| 17:39.13 | masterra | tarzeau: 2.6.10-k7 to 2.6.16-k7, not sure if the problem started after the upgrade though.. i upgraded b ecause i rebooted, i rebooted becuase another of my drives failed and i was trying to see if it would spin up on a reboot |
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| 17:39.45 | AnyFile | rohan option -n of dhcpcd |
| 17:39.46 | valdyn | rohan: look for 'static' |
| 17:40.08 | AnyFile | or just put the interface as static |
| 17:40.11 | spanglesontoast | hmm |
| 17:40.15 | rohan | AnyFile: oh, but i use ifup eth0 |
| 17:40.23 | spanglesontoast | since upgrading to etch vsftpd keeps saying 550 error |
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| 17:40.56 | rohan | oh, ok, valdyn and AnyFile .. then can you please give me a single line to get me started, on how to use my dhcp net as static ? |
| 17:41.02 | Blissex | spanglesontoast: thanks for helping debug an unreleased version of Debian. Please submit a patch :-) |
| 17:41.40 | spanglesontoast | hmm |
| 17:41.58 | Blissex | spanglesontoast: put another way: there is no such thing as 'Etch' yet. There is a collection of packages of random versions put out there for testing and debugging. |
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| 17:42.21 | spanglesontoast | well I don't mind I'd rather have the latest release |
| 17:42.34 | unstable | How do you get the dialogue you get when you first install debian sarge/etch ... the networking dialogue where you can select dhcp, or setup it up statically...so you can just fill in the blanks in the dialogue |
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| 17:42.39 | Blissex | spanglesontoast: thats fine, as long as you don't mind fixing it yourself :-) |
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| 17:43.05 | spanglesontoast | well is there any other ftp servers? |
| 17:43.11 | Blissex | spanglesontoast: or giving enough details that you it is possible for others to help you fix it. |
| 17:43.20 | marco__ | hmm, I get this error when I try to start X (in dmesg): nvidia: Unknown symbol register_chrdev |
| 17:43.30 | marco__ | I've uninstalled and reinstalled the nvidia drivers |
| 17:43.31 | unstable | spanglesontoast: apt-get install proftpd |
| 17:43.40 | marco__ | X works only if I use the generic nv driver |
| 17:43.56 | Blissex | spanglesontoast: there are several other FTP servers ('apt-cache search') but usually 'vsftpd' is much easier to setup. Probably all that is happening is that some configuration detail changed. |
| 17:43.56 | unstable | marco__: Or if you use the "vesa" driver. |
| 17:43.57 | rat_poison | unstable, try base-config |
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| 17:44.09 | rat_poison | but there is no guarantee that it exists anymore |
| 17:44.20 | marco__ | unstable: exactly, but I'm confused as to why nvidia's kernel module isn't loading |
| 17:44.39 | splattnik | is there any nice trick to go into an *tar.gz file, like mcs virtual filesystem? id like to read some files in that archive but dont want to extract it. |
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| 17:44.41 | unstable | marco__: Because you didn't add the module name to /etc/modules |
| 17:44.49 | Goa | hi guys |
| 17:44.50 | unstable | marco__: And/Or you didn't modprobe it. |
| 17:45.04 | unstable | !greet Goa |
| 17:45.04 | dpkg | Hello, Goa |
| 17:45.07 | unstable | !it |
| 17:45.07 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 17:45.16 | marco__ | unstable: it worked before, just after a dist-upgrade it died |
| 17:45.18 | Goa | i have a question concerning edonkey links,how can i associate it with amule? |
| 17:45.28 | marco__ | unstable: what's the name of the nvidia module (I'm putting it in /etc/modules |
| 17:45.29 | Blissex | splattnik: most file managers, including 'mc', can do that. |
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| 17:45.44 | unstable | marco__: I have no idea. |
| 17:45.49 | unstable | marco__: I would guess "nvidia" |
| 17:45.54 | Goa | in order that when i can download e2dk link and they automatically goes to amule |
| 17:45.57 | unstable | marco__: As root type "modprobe nvidia"" |
| 17:45.57 | rat_poison | Goa, what are you using KDE/GNOME? |
| 17:46.03 | Goa | kde man |
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| 17:46.10 | pc_ | hi |
| 17:46.12 | masterra | tarzeau: any other ideas? i'm worried now, so while i have it successfully mounted i'm gonna back up everything important from it.. that'll take probly an hour, then i'll reboot and try formatting it and some other things and see if i get the same mount errors then.. |
| 17:46.17 | AnyFile | rohan, for configuring a network device with static IP see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-high |
| 17:46.18 | rat_poison | unstable, you use nvidia as the module only when you installed the NVidia proprietary drivers |
| 17:46.28 | pc_ | does debian has ifstat tool on apt? |
| 17:46.38 | rat_poison | marco__, what is the problem with nvidia? |
| 17:46.40 | splattnik | Blissex: yes i know mc has that abillity but ive more or less stopped using mc, but it still got that funkton that i miss. |
| 17:46.40 | rohan | AnyFile: but my router uses dhcp .. does that guide still apply ? |
| 17:46.46 | tarzeau | masterra: no idea sorry |
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| 17:46.57 | Goa | any idea rat_poison ? |
| 17:47.02 | tarzeau | is Jose Carlos Medeiros here? |
| 17:47.04 | tarzeau | !br |
| 17:47.04 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 17:47.12 | Blissex | splattnik: well, a lot of other archive/package managers can do that in the same way. |
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| 17:47.18 | marco__ | unstable,rat_poison I get this error: Fatal error inserting nvidia(kernel module path goes here): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter |
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| 17:47.40 | rat_poison | are you using the nvidia drivers? marcels |
| 17:47.42 | rat_poison | oops |
| 17:47.49 | rat_poison | marco__, are you using nvidia drivers? |
| 17:47.54 | marco__ | rat_poison: yes |
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| 17:48.07 | rat_poison | you should try the nvidia forums. |
| 17:48.09 | marco__ | rat_poison: it disagrees about the version of register_chrdev |
| 17:48.11 | Goa | umh... |
| 17:48.20 | AnyFile | Sorry, rohan, I have missed the beginning of your discussion. Do you want to use a static IP for your pc or do you want that your router always assign the same Ip to your pc? |
| 17:48.21 | rat_poison | there are HUGE number of problems with nvidia drivers |
| 17:48.26 | marco__ | rat_poison: heh |
| 17:48.32 | masterra | tarzeau: k, well thanks for the help! |
| 17:48.32 | unstable | marco__: Then you didn't install/compile your video driver module properly. And it therefore isn't loading into the linux kernel properly. |
| 17:48.41 | marco__ | unstable: it worked before dist-upgrade |
| 17:48.45 | rat_poison | Goa, kcontrol -> KDE components -> File associations -> |
| 17:48.46 | Thug-N-Me | i would like to get me a nice weather report a nicer one then the default one ... any help ? |
| 17:48.50 | unstable | marco__: What version of debian are you using? |
| 17:48.54 | marco__ | unstable: sid |
| 17:48.56 | tarzeau | rat_poison: like what? |
| 17:48.57 | unstable | lol |
| 17:49.01 | tarzeau | rat_poison: work perfect for me and here |
| 17:49.02 | marco__ | unstable: I know shit brakes in sid |
| 17:49.04 | unstable | marco__: That means you don't get much help or sympathy. |
| 17:49.11 | marco__ | unstable: -_- |
| 17:49.12 | unstable | marco__: check the bts |
| 17:49.19 | tarzeau | rat_poison: but i've seen problems with dri drivers |
| 17:49.20 | rohan | AnyFile: even that guide tells me to use dhcp for my network ... i am confused. how do i just tell debian to bind to 192.168.1.2 and not .3 ? |
| 17:49.25 | rat_poison | tarzeau, marco__ what kernel version did you have while installing nvidia drivers? |
| 17:49.31 | marco__ | rat_poison: dunno |
| 17:49.32 | tarzeau | rat_poison: i have my own kernels |
| 17:49.37 | tarzeau | rat_poison: but use make-kpkg |
| 17:49.38 | marco__ | rat_poison: was like two weeks ago |
| 17:49.42 | rat_poison | tarzeau, there were issues of the modules not being copied to the right locations. |
| 17:49.52 | tarzeau | rat_poison: ah yes, that's with xorg. just do that yourself |
| 17:49.59 | AnyFile | You have to choose first if you want to use dhcp for your pc or not |
| 17:50.19 | rat_poison | it was not that simple tarzeau some issue with certain other packages not being installed properly. |
| 17:50.20 | marco__ | rat_poison: I'll brb in X (using nv driver) |
| 17:50.28 | tarzeau | rat_poison: i had no problems |
| 17:50.43 | rat_poison | tarzeau, I had issues with missing drivers (speedo not used) |
| 17:50.53 | rat_poison | other issues like the drivers being copied to wrong locations. |
| 17:51.02 | Goa | rat_poison i open kcontrol i found where file association is located |
| 17:51.02 | rat_poison | DRI btw had issues for me. |
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| 17:51.08 | rat_poison | ok. |
| 17:51.11 | Goa | what should i write? |
| 17:51.23 | rat_poison | what are the file extensions for edonkey files? |
| 17:51.27 | elinux | anyone have a suggestion for a ftp server on sarge? |
| 17:51.30 | rat_poison | .torrent - bittorrent files. |
| 17:51.32 | Goa | umh |
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| 17:51.33 | rat_poison | e2dk? |
| 17:51.36 | Goa | yes |
| 17:51.40 | Goa | yes man |
| 17:51.48 | rohan | well, i have to leave now .. |
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| 17:51.53 | Goa | so i make "add" |
| 17:51.56 | rat_poison | yeah |
| 17:52.00 | Goa | and then? |
| 17:52.01 | rat_poison | and set the association |
| 17:52.04 | gpled | i see http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/pool/main/v/vlc/vlc_0.8.5-test3.debian-3_amd64.deb |
| 17:52.25 | rat_poison | ok did you add e2dk file type? |
| 17:52.26 | gpled | how can i get this, with apt-get? also, and any debian release use this? |
| 17:52.27 | unstable | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 17:52.27 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 17:52.37 | rohan | valdyn: if you find time to point me to guide how to get my debian to use 192.168.1.2 not .3 or how to use static in interfaces please memo me ! :) thanks a lot ... |
| 17:52.37 | marco13185 | rat_poison, heh, you think just reinstalling the nvidia drivers from scratch is a good idea? |
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| 17:52.52 | rat_poison | Goa, ? |
| 17:53.04 | rat_poison | marco13185, installing nvidia drivers is a good starting point. |
| 17:53.12 | chealer9 | gpled: yes, sid has that. you use amd64? |
| 17:53.18 | Thug-N-Me | how do i get a nice gnome weather applet ? |
| 17:53.24 | Goa | i dont know |
| 17:53.27 | rat_poison | if it doesnt fix the problem, you will have to create some links for the module drivers. |
| 17:53.31 | Goa | how to set the association |
| 17:53.38 | unstable | gpled: You just have to wait for vlc in etch. |
| 17:53.39 | gpled | chealer9: i use amd64 |
| 17:53.41 | rat_poison | Goa, did you Add the e2dk file typoe? |
| 17:53.53 | chealer9 | unstable: no, he doesn't |
| 17:53.53 | Goa | there is another menu |
| 17:53.56 | Goa | group |
| 17:53.56 | unstable | !tell gpled why is vlc not in testing |
| 17:54.02 | Thug-N-Me | i would like to get a gnome weather applet witch shows me the weather for the next day or so any help ? |
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| 17:54.14 | rat_poison | Group - say application Goa |
| 17:54.20 | Goa | ok |
| 17:54.26 | chealer9 | gpled: setting up an etch/sid mix should let you install vlc using APT |
| 17:54.37 | Goa | i did it |
| 17:54.39 | Goa | after? |
| 17:54.46 | rat_poison | marco13185, what nvidia driver are you looking @? |
| 17:54.50 | gpled | chealer9: is that the way i should go? of should i change to sid? |
| 17:55.05 | marco13185 | rat_poison, the nvidia-glx drivers |
| 17:55.14 | chealer9 | gpled: if you have to ask, forget aout "changing to sid" |
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| 17:55.16 | xomhau | rehi |
| 17:55.24 | rat_poison | click on the e2dk file type and then to the right in General tab do you see Application Preference Order... there "Add..." and pick your application name |
| 17:55.26 | chealer9 | gpled: an etch/sid mix is the way you should go |
| 17:55.34 | rat_poison | marco13185, version?? |
| 17:55.40 | gpled | chealer9: k |
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| 17:55.49 | marco13185 | rat_poison, err, the latest one in sid |
| 17:55.50 | marco13185 | ;) |
| 17:55.51 | rat_poison | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8756-pkg1.run |
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| 17:56.01 | rat_poison | marco13185, what sid? |
| 17:56.03 | xomhau | what soft tell me when people connect to my sharing file ( samba)? |
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| 17:56.07 | rat_poison | nvidia drivers from Nvidia? |
| 17:56.09 | marco13185 | rat_poison, the drivers are included in sid |
| 17:56.14 | rat_poison | omg |
| 17:56.20 | marco13185 | ??? |
| 17:56.36 | marco13185 | rofl |
| 17:56.38 | rat_poison | are you ok with proprietary drivers? Not everyone is. |
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| 17:56.54 | marco13185 | rat_poison, ya, I don't care whether my software is OSS, I just like what works |
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| 17:57.21 | tarzeau | we don't have http://freshmeat.net/projects/ccmath ? |
| 17:57.25 | rat_poison | hehe marco13185 ok. then go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and pick the right driver |
| 17:57.33 | rat_poison | you might need to have the kernel headers installed btw |
| 17:57.35 | marco13185 | rat_poison, why, when they're included in debian? |
| 17:57.41 | chealer9 | rat_poison: please. this is #debian |
| 17:57.52 | marco13185 | gpled, I didn't mean to offend anyone |
| 17:58.01 | rat_poison | chealer9, I understand, that is exactly why I asked him. |
| 17:58.03 | Thug-N-Me | how do i register my nick ? |
| 17:58.21 | gpled | marco13185: all in good fun |
| 17:58.28 | rat_poison | chealer9, if you are not ok with this discussion I would be happy to NOT continue it here. |
| 17:58.35 | marco13185 | err, wtf |
| 17:58.47 | thingfish | Thug-N-Me: /msg nickserv help register |
| 17:58.50 | epsilon | I have problem getting dhcp to work... does dhcpd need any port opened? |
| 17:59.14 | Thug-N-Me | thingfish thanks |
| 17:59.15 | rat_poison | chealer9, ?? |
| 17:59.17 | chealer9 | rat_poison: I'm not reproaching you to try helping with non-free software, but you shouldn't suggest taking the drivers from nvidia.com while they're distributed by Debian |
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| 17:59.46 | rat_poison | chealer9, I understand that. |
| 17:59.48 | marco13185 | rat_poison, I already weighed both alternatives, the debian way is easier |
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| 18:00.02 | rat_poison | debian way is way easier. agreed. |
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| 18:00.16 | Goa | it tells me kio (KMimeType): WARNING: KServiceType::offers : servicetype application/ed2k not found |
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| 18:00.51 | Arnald | WTF happened to fetchmail? |
| 18:01.08 | Arnald | Can't find any reference on Google |
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| 18:02.32 | gpled | epsilon: hmmm, maybe ports 67 and 68? |
| 18:02.46 | chealer9 | Arnald: try being vaguer. we can't help with questions so specific |
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| 18:03.08 | Arnald | chealer9: well it seems to have disappeared |
| 18:03.09 | gpled | epsilon: udp? |
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| 18:03.18 | Arnald | it's not available on my system |
| 18:03.31 | Arnald | is it available on yours? |
| 18:03.32 | chealer9 | Arnald: fetchmail must have disappeared, yes |
| 18:03.48 | Arnald | without a trace, though AFAICT |
| 18:03.50 | chealer9 | Arnald: what do you mean by not available on your system? |
| 18:04.11 | Arnald | as in "aptitude search fetchmail" |
| 18:04.17 | Arnald | and so on |
| 18:04.21 | chealer9 | Arnald: and which release do you run? |
| 18:04.28 | rat_poison | Goa, did you just try clicking on the e2dk file and then associating an application with it? |
| 18:04.34 | Arnald | I installed from sarge CDs and upgraded to etch |
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| 18:04.53 | chealer9 | Arnald: maybe fetchmail was removed from Etch? |
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| 18:04.55 | wireddd | Arnald, currently there is no fetchmail in etch |
| 18:05.23 | Arnald | well that's what it looks like, but it's a pretty popular package isn't it? |
| 18:05.35 | Arnald | is something wrong with it? |
| 18:05.50 | rat_poison | Arnald, maybe there was a replacement (ex: xfree86->xorg) |
| 18:05.50 | elinux | how can I find out in which package an exectuable is? for instance, I'm searching for aoss |
| 18:05.54 | Arnald | perhaps I am unfortunate in my timing |
| 18:06.08 | thingfish | Arnald: /msg dpkg why is fetchmail not in testing |
| 18:06.09 | Arnald | p getmail4 - mail retriever with support for POP3, IMAP |
| 18:06.10 | wireddd | Arnald, it will probably be there tomorrow |
| 18:06.14 | elinux | is there a debian tool or it's called google? |
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| 18:06.30 | Arnald | wireddd: OK so I am just unlucky |
| 18:06.32 | Arnald | thanks |
| 18:06.34 | Blissex | elinux: 'man dpkg' or use 'dlocate' |
| 18:07.00 | wireddd | Arnald, you could probably install the package from unstable |
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| 18:07.09 | Blissex | elinux: if you are looking for a file in the repository, try 'apt-cache search' |
| 18:07.17 | elinux | Blissex, dlocate is not installed, so i'll try to use dpkg to find dlocate :P |
| 18:07.24 | Arnald | wireddd: OK, I'll have a look, thanks |
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| 18:07.43 | Blissex | elinux: for uninstalled packages use 'apt-cache search', not 'dpkg' |
| 18:07.51 | gpled | chealer9: can you send me the info for adding sid to etch, again? |
| 18:07.51 | elinux | Blissex, Blissex apt-cache worked |
| 18:07.59 | Eulex | Blissex, umh, I assume you mean apt-file search? |
| 18:08.07 | IceZone | i could use massive help with installing ol woody on antique laptop with a wifi nic if anyone is inclined |
| 18:08.18 | elinux | Blissex, what is main diff between apt-get and dpkg? |
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| 18:08.49 | Blissex | Eulex: 'apt-file' never worked for me, 'apt-cache search' usually gets hits even for some file names (by random coincidence with keywords). |
| 18:08.54 | elinux | Eulex, apt-cache worked |
| 18:09.15 | Arnald | thingfish: thanks for the tip |
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| 18:09.37 | Eulex | Blissex, you need to run apt-file update before using it. also, you'll need to (iirc) have curl installed |
| 18:09.43 | Blissex | elinux: thats explained at length on the package management docs, but basically 'dpkg' manages installed packages, and 'apt-get' manages _available_ uninstalled packages, and uses 'dpkg' to install/uninstall them. |
| 18:09.44 | thingfish | no problemo, Arnald. |
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| 18:09.53 | chealer9 | !tell gpled about esm |
| 18:10.03 | Blissex | Eulex: worse than that: 'apt-file' would not execute because of Perl syntax errors IIRC |
| 18:10.09 | elinux | Blissex, ok, that give a good idea, thx |
| 18:10.36 | Eulex | Blissex, hmm, *that's* bad, never happened to me. you should have checked the bts. |
| 18:11.14 | Blissex | Eulex: yes, but I got the impression 'apt-file' was sort of not that well kept updated... |
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| 18:12.06 | Eulex | Blissex, always worked well here. |
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| 18:13.05 | venger | any way to suppress iptables -LOG output to current tty? it logs to /var/adm/messages like its supposed to |
| 18:13.18 | IceZone | could someone help with installing ndiswrapper on woody? |
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| 18:13.30 | IceZone | or better to get sarge? |
| 18:13.43 | Eulex | venger, look in /etc/syslog.conf, scroll down to the bottom. I think that's it. |
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| 18:14.56 | peritus | IceZone: you need help upgrading from woody to sarge? |
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| 18:15.45 | venger | ah, Eulex its piping to /dev/xconsole |
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| 18:15.54 | IceZone | peritus have woody installed on ol laptop (old old) but it has wifi nic would like to get inet working on it |
| 18:16.12 | Eulex | venger, indeed. |
| 18:16.13 | yggdrasil_ | when i use btddownloadcurses and i setup my max upload rate does that effect my download rate? |
| 18:16.21 | yggdrasil_ | fora torrent.. |
| 18:16.34 | peritus | IceZone: would an upgrade to sarge cause problems? |
| 18:16.58 | IceZone | nope unless sarge wont run under 16mb mem that is all this antique has |
| 18:17.14 | mbishop | yggdrasil_: depends on what you mean by effect... if your upload rate it too high, you saturate your connection, and your download will slow or even die |
| 18:17.30 | mbishop | yggdrasil_: set the upload rate to a little less than your max upload rate, and your download/upload should stay healthy |
| 18:17.38 | peritus | IceZone: ah, i see. i have no idea about that |
| 18:17.58 | yggdrasil_ | im just aing theres not some rulethat says if i set upload rate t 1 kb my dl rate wil only be double that .. |
| 18:18.08 | yggdrasil_ | i know about the saturation hahah unfortunately |
| 18:18.28 | zoob | between the various different security modules/patches (pax, grsecurity, rsbac, openwall, SELinux), which one has the best support in debian? |
| 18:19.02 | osphy | any good how to on xgl with debian sid ? |
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| 18:22.53 | linnuxxy | im trying to configure inrges, i got this error "CSMTinitiate: getpwnam() failure" |
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| 18:23.40 | linnuxxy | how to solve this? |
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| 18:24.16 | mvfeinstein | Can anyone here help me, I am trying to get my builtin wireless card working on my laptop. I just installed debian and it was working during the set up. |
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| 18:24.32 | astronut | mvfeinstein: lspci |
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| 18:24.36 | astronut | can you find the chipset? |
| 18:24.57 | Herman | Manual needed for INREG etc |
| 18:25.01 | linnuxxy | im trying to configure inrges, i got this error "CSMTinitiate: getpwnam() failure"? how to solve it out? |
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| 18:25.48 | mvfeinstein | astronut its a Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) |
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| 18:28.59 | astronut | mvfeinstein: supported, looking up the driver name |
| 18:29.07 | astronut | you probably just have to modprobe something |
| 18:29.24 | Herman | I'm a newbe, is anyone there? |
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| 18:29.49 | astronut | mvfeinstein: i think orinoco_pci |
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| 18:30.26 | bucky | Prism 2.5 uses hostap |
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| 18:31.03 | astronut | eh? guess this page is wrong |
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| 18:31.30 | astronut | hmm |
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| 18:31.37 | astronut | bucky: 2 pages both say the orinco_pci |
| 18:32.04 | bucky | astronut: http://hostap.epitest.fi/ |
| 18:32.24 | n0t_flan | I know Prism2 uses hermes(orinoco(orinoco_pci)), but I'm pretty sure 2.5 is hostap. |
| 18:32.33 | bucky | it's been around for a while and it's in the 2.6 kernel |
| 18:32.34 | zinx | hostap/linux-wlan-ng are crap |
| 18:32.45 | astronut | well, try both |
| 18:32.50 | astronut | my new laptop is one of the intel ones |
| 18:32.52 | astronut | if it ever gets here |
| 18:32.55 | astronut | don't buy lenovo |
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| 18:33.03 | bucky | it works better for Prism 2.5 than the orinco driver |
| 18:33.09 | zinx | you're better off using ndiswrapper w/ some windows drivers |
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| 18:33.19 | zinx | and that's pretty awful |
| 18:33.30 | astronut | i've been waiting 1.5 months just about for my laptop |
| 18:33.31 | bucky | and the Prism 2.5 cards are better than the new POS cards |
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| 18:34.05 | lekvar | astronut: they lista lot of stuff like it's in-stock and ready to ship out :-/ |
| 18:34.10 | mvfeinstein | Ok so i have prism54, hostap, and orinoco modules loaded and when I go into Interface properties and try to configure my wireless card I still can not activate it or ass and networks.... anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong? |
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| 18:34.19 | astronut | lekvar: well, it was a CTO |
| 18:34.24 | astronut | but they fucked up my order |
| 18:34.32 | astronut | and took like 3 weeks befoer anyone noticed |
| 18:34.36 | bucky | mvfeinstein: what does ifconfig call the card? |
| 18:34.41 | astronut | then took them a week to try and fix it |
| 18:34.42 | bucky | wlan0 ? |
| 18:34.49 | astronut | then theyswitched me to a premade one |
| 18:34.51 | astronut | and i'm still wiating |
| 18:34.54 | astronut | to hear about ship times |
| 18:35.00 | zinx | mvfeinstein: you probably need to stick some firmware on it. |
| 18:35.06 | bucky | !tell astronut about enter |
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| 18:35.27 | mvfeinstein | bucky not sure what you mean |
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| 18:35.34 | enkrypt | what is the "debian-way" of installing a truetype font that I downloaded ? |
| 18:35.37 | ootput | hmm, nvidia-kernel-sources not available on etch? |
| 18:35.40 | kimo | Hi, does anyone know how does mailScanner differ from SpamAssassin ? |
| 18:35.53 | john | Is there a way to edit your default keyboard layout? |
| 18:35.57 | thingfish | enkrypt: drop in into ~/.fonts works for me. |
| 18:35.59 | mvfeinstein | zinx it was working durring the install so it should work now |
| 18:36.00 | astronut | ootput: might be caught up in xorg 7 transition |
| 18:36.21 | enkrypt | thingfish: if I drop it there, the debian font system just picks it up ? xfs and all ? |
| 18:36.32 | thingfish | enkrypt: sure seems to, yes. |
| 18:36.42 | bucky | mvfeinstein: if you don't know how to type /sbin/ifconfig in a terminal... the chances of you getting your wireless card are pretty slim |
| 18:36.42 | ootput | astronut: ah, right |
| 18:36.50 | enkrypt | ah, thanks thingfish, couldn't be easier! :) |
| 18:36.51 | thingfish | enkrypt: ones I put in there are instantly available to apps and the system. |
| 18:37.00 | enkrypt | thanks a bunch |
| 18:37.44 | mvfeinstein | bucky I know how to run ifconfig but I was guessing that you where not asking me if it was called eth1 or eth0 so I am not sure what name you are looking for. |
| 18:37.48 | bucky | mvfeinstein: what's your wireless card called.. wlan0 ? eth0 ? eth1 ? |
| 18:37.59 | mvfeinstein | bucky eth1 |
| 18:38.04 | ootput | astronut: looks like it won't be in testing at all (since 2006-04-18) |
| 18:38.09 | bucky | mvfeinstein: then it shows up |
| 18:38.13 | astronut | ootput: ? |
| 18:38.15 | n0t_flan | mvfeinstein, iwconfig will list all interfaces, regardless of up/down status. It's part of the wireless-tools package. |
| 18:38.40 | lekvar | *finds out why cardbus won't work on machine* Ahh look, it's my old "friend", the Yenta module, which decides there's no PCI IRQ to support CardBus. Grr. |
| 18:38.43 | ootput | astronut: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 18:38.47 | Vantage13_ | this may sound like an odd question but, is there a way to start the debian installation process from within windows to avoid having to boot from CD or floppy? |
| 18:38.49 | ootput | astronut: (Warning for Etch users) |
| 18:38.51 | lekvar | Are all laptops this big of a PITA under late 2.6 kernels? |
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| 18:39.26 | astronut | weird |
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| 18:40.07 | n0t_flan | Vantage13_, anything's possible, but it'll probably be a lot more work. |
| 18:40.11 | bucky | mvfeinstein: set up eth1 with http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-high |
| 18:40.13 | thingfish | enkrypt: there's probably a better place to put them if you want them to be available to all users. |
| 18:40.15 | astronut | ootput: just go officail then |
| 18:40.25 | bucky | mvfeinstein: and rmmod prism54 |
| 18:41.09 | mvfeinstein | n0t_flan if i run iwconfig it says the eth1 is connected to a wireless network |
| 18:41.16 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: my problem is I have an old laptop that was given to me that has win2k on it, no cdrom drive, no floppy drive, and can't boot from usb. So I'm trying to find the best way to get debian on it without having to track down and purchase the external cdrom for it. |
| 18:41.21 | kimo | Hi, does anyone know how does mailScanner differ from SpamAssassin ? |
| 18:41.49 | gpled | anyone here using amd64? |
| 18:42.02 | gpled | do you just compile your own kernel? |
| 18:42.02 | n0t_flan | Vantage13_, I just worked with a Portege like that. Does your laptop support PXE? (Booting from Ethernet) |
| 18:42.08 | tarzeau | gpled: the hardware? yes |
| 18:42.14 | thingfish | gpled: #debian-amd64 |
| 18:42.15 | tarzeau | gpled: yes my own kernel too |
| 18:42.17 | bucky | gpled: no one in #debian-amd64 ? |
| 18:42.39 | lekvar | "module-assistant"... ? |
| 18:42.46 | epsilon | I have a .config file of Kernel 2.4.32 (vanilla from kernel.org). Can I use this config with debian's kernel 2.4.27? |
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| 18:42.57 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: that's a good idea. The bios does list network boot as an option, so that sounds promising... |
| 18:43.05 | tarzeau | epsilon: why do you want to use an older kernel when you ahve 2.4.32? |
| 18:43.12 | tarzeau | epsilon: i'd go for the latest 2.4 kernel |
| 18:43.15 | Thug-N-Me | need to get cedega installed any help ? |
| 18:43.30 | tarzeau | Thug-N-Me: /msg dpkg ask |
| 18:43.39 | n0t_flan | Vantage13_, you'll need another system to provide the installation seeds. It'll need DHCPd and some form of tftpd. (I used HPA, but any of them should work). |
| 18:43.57 | epsilon | tarzeau: is the 2.4.32 100% compatible with sarge? |
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| 18:44.14 | tarzeau | epsilon: why should it not be? we use the latest 2.4 and 2.6 kernels with sarge |
| 18:44.22 | tarzeau | epsilon: works fine, i've never had problems |
| 18:44.30 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: that shouldn't be a problem to set up. I'll just have to disable dhcp on my router temporarily. Any how-to's on how to setup the image? |
| 18:44.33 | tarzeau | epsilon: actually later hardware (this year) won't run with sarge kernels |
| 18:45.08 | epsilon | well at least 2.6 I heared it's a 'no-no', cause device stuff changing too fast in vanilla kernel... |
| 18:45.18 | n0t_flan | Vantage13_, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en |
| 18:45.35 | n0t_flan | (There are friendlier guides out there -- just use Google) |
| 18:45.47 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: sweet. Thanks! |
| 18:45.56 | n0t_flan | It may take a few tries. |
| 18:46.01 | n0t_flan | Don't get discouraged. :) |
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| 18:50.39 | jadejade | how do I disable the pc speaker beep? |
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| 18:51.03 | epsilon | plug the cable |
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| 18:52.24 | topfunky | nuby memory question here...i have a vps with 128 MB ram. Is active or committed more relevant to telling me if I need to upgrade to more RAM? |
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| 18:52.35 | luluberlu | hi all :) |
| 18:52.39 | jadejade | topfunky: plug the cable |
| 18:52.40 | topfunky | hey |
| 18:52.44 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: which image did you use to install from? |
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| 18:52.52 | topfunky | ;) |
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| 18:53.47 | marco13185 | how do I go into CLI mode? |
| 18:53.47 | luluberlu | can i ask you ? |
| 18:53.58 | astronut | marco13185: alt+f1, or open a terminal 9from your menu) |
| 18:54.04 | luluberlu | i have a problem during the debian installa tion |
| 18:54.29 | luluberlu | i have a marvelle yukon ethernel controler, im connected to the net with DHCP |
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| 18:54.51 | luluberlu | but the debian installation program can't set my network connection |
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| 18:55.11 | luluberlu | how can i configure the DHCP during the installation? |
| 18:55.25 | peritus | luluberlu: are you installing stable? |
| 18:55.32 | luluberlu | yes |
| 18:55.50 | luluberlu | i have try kubuntu liveCD, debian sarge, kubuntu 5.10 |
| 18:55.50 | n0t_flan | Vantage13_, look at the last line on that page. That's what I used. |
| 18:55.59 | luluberlu | no one can set my net |
| 18:56.05 | peritus | try with a 2.6 kernel. type linux26 after boot: when the cd boots |
| 18:56.08 | luluberlu | so i havent no net, no X, no KDE ... |
| 18:56.24 | luluberlu | linux26 ? |
| 18:56.26 | peritus | okay. then it might not help |
| 18:56.45 | peritus | luluberlu: yes, then the installer will use a linux 2.6 kernel instead of 2.4 |
| 18:56.55 | peritus | ... which might support your NIC |
| 18:57.08 | luluberlu | ook |
| 18:57.09 | n0t_flan | Knoppix? |
| 18:57.10 | lekvar | When I try using my cardbus ethernet card, my (2.6.15-1-686) kernel complains "kernel: cs: pcmcia_socket0: cardbus cards are not supported."... anyone seen this? |
| 18:57.23 | luluberlu | peritus : the debian installer use a 2.4 kernel ? |
| 18:57.31 | peritus | luluberlu: by default, yes |
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| 18:57.47 | luluberlu | so thank you very much peritus |
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| 18:58.06 | peritus | luluberlu: no problem, i hope it helps you out |
| 18:58.15 | luluberlu | lekvar : why dont you not recompile your kernel ? |
| 18:58.22 | luluberlu | peritus i will try this |
| 18:58.23 | luluberlu | :) |
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| 18:58.46 | luluberlu | does it works whith kubuntu liveCD? |
| 18:58.47 | lekvar | luluberlu: Because that's probably not what the problem is. |
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| 18:59.32 | Epilog | how can I calculate the cpu utilization based on the loadavg or a proc var? |
| 18:59.40 | lekvar | luluberlu: er... wait a sec...are you suggesting i DO recompile, or that i SHOULDN'T? I've stopped compiling my own kernels unless absolutely forced |
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| 19:00.19 | abrotman | lekvar: grep CARDBUS /boot/<yourconfig> |
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| 19:00.30 | luluberlu | lekvar, i suggest you to recompile kernel |
| 19:00.39 | luluberlu | i dont have the solution for your problem |
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| 19:00.45 | luluberlu | it is just a suggestion |
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| 19:00.54 | action09 | hi all |
| 19:01.02 | luluberlu | hi action09 |
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| 19:01.14 | Trewas | Epilog: you can't, loadavg is not directly related to cpu usage, it just tells how many processes are waiting to be run |
| 19:01.50 | abrotman | "Yeah .. i have no idea what your problem is .. or what might cause it .. but hey .. why not compile a kernel .. that never fails" |
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| 19:01.59 | lekvar | "CONFIG_CARDBUS=y" as expected. |
| 19:02.04 | n0t_flan | Exactly what I was thinking, abrotman. |
| 19:02.23 | po0k | what is devfs |
| 19:02.23 | Epilog | Trewas: so how do I get the cpu? without top? |
| 19:02.25 | po0k | !devfs |
| 19:02.26 | dpkg | devfs is probably obsolete and was [basically] removed from Linux from 2.6.13, or ask me about devfs faq |
| 19:02.32 | abrotman | lekvar: have the `pcmciautils` installed? |
| 19:02.37 | po0k | what is it? |
| 19:02.42 | n0t_flan | lekvar, have you had success with this controller/card before? |
| 19:02.51 | abrotman | !devfs faq |
| 19:02.51 | dpkg | i heard devfs faq is at http://www.atnf.csiro.au/~rgooch/linux/docs/devfs.html |
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| 19:03.30 | lekvar | pcmciautils are installed. |
| 19:03.47 | yggdrasil_ | test |
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| 19:04.10 | lekvar | I have not used this card with this controller before, but it would appear that the card isn't at issue so much as the fact it's cardbus. |
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| 19:04.39 | n0t_flan | lekvar, you're probably right, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't a new problem. |
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| 19:04.55 | luluberlu | thx for your solutions guy |
| 19:04.56 | n0t_flan | lekvar, is this a particularly new/unusual laptop? |
| 19:04.57 | luluberlu | i quit |
| 19:04.58 | luluberlu | bye |
| 19:05.06 | lekvar | I think this because, from dmesg: "Yenta: Routing CardBus interrupts to PCI" then Yenta TI: socket 0000:00:02.0 no PCI interrupts. Fish. Please report." then "Yenta: no PCI IRQ, CardBus support disabled for this socket." (same for slot 1) |
| 19:05.36 | lekvar | n0t_flan: it's an older laptop whose bridge hardware is apparently troublesome |
| 19:05.40 | abrotman | lekvar: that's a bit better .. |
| 19:05.40 | n0t_flan | ...Yeah, that's more or less what I was going to get at. |
| 19:05.51 | Trewas | Epilog: I have no idea if you can get it easily... check if you can find some examples in google or check top etc sources |
| 19:06.03 | lekvar | It's the dreaded thinkpad 600e |
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| 19:06.26 | n0t_flan | I've got a bridge here that never supported anything but 16-bit cards (in 2003). I've just been using an MA401 with it since, but that looks like a similar problem. |
| 19:06.41 | lekvar | and i know it's dreaded because at one poit i was plundering the kernel developer lists looking for answers and the model or its bridge chips were interspersed amongst the occasional cursing |
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| 19:07.26 | Nicola | hello, there is a command for get information about kernel (compiler used to compile it...)? |
| 19:07.46 | lekvar | According to thinkwiki this model system supports cardbus... it seems curious that the kernel knows what it's getting that it won't support as opposed to being random about it |
| 19:07.57 | astronut | Nicola: uname -a |
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| 19:08.02 | lekvar | incidentally results are identical in either slot |
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| 19:08.20 | abrotman | Nicola: cat /proc/version |
| 19:08.36 | Arnald | How do I create an audio device for ALSA? |
| 19:08.40 | astronut | or that |
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| 19:08.52 | astronut | Arnald: are you using udev? |
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| 19:09.00 | Arnald | I've installed lots of packages, but none or them actually seems to create a mixer |
| 19:09.03 | Nicola | thanks |
| 19:09.04 | Arnald | astronut: yes |
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| 19:09.22 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: do you have to know the hardware ethernet address for the nic on the remote system for dhcpd/pxe to work? |
| 19:09.23 | lekvar | Arnald: there's an alsaconf utility which helped |
| 19:09.29 | lekvar | (helped me that is) |
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| 19:09.47 | n0t_flan | lekvar, aside from waiting, I'm not sure what else you can do. :( |
| 19:09.49 | Arnald | lekvar: I read somewhere that alsaconf was deprecated - am I mistaken? |
| 19:10.07 | n0t_flan | It's possible that it'll be fixed in a later kernel release. |
| 19:10.19 | Arnald | I've used it in the past, and muddled my way through, but there must be a tidier method ;) |
| 19:10.23 | abrotman | if it's old hardware .. probably not .. |
| 19:10.34 | n0t_flan | Vantage13_, I've never done it without knowing the MAC. I'd assume it's possible without, but I can't say for sure. |
| 19:10.39 | abrotman | lekvar: pretty common laptop ? |
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| 19:10.49 | abrotman | !beer lastfm maintainer |
| 19:11.05 | lekvar | it's common enough since it's a 600 series thinkpad and they're quite nice aside from being slow by modern standards |
| 19:11.22 | abrotman | lekvar: tried messing with BIOS options ? |
| 19:11.33 | shogunx | lekvar i got the oss sound running on that laptop once. |
| 19:11.38 | abrotman | though .. IIRC .. not many BIOS options |
| 19:11.39 | lekvar | abrotman: they aren't accesible without a special utility which only runs uner window. |
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| 19:11.48 | abrotman | !punish IBM |
| 19:11.54 | Blissex | lekvar: there are tons of ''getting my 600 thinkpad to work with linux'' howtos. |
| 19:11.56 | lekvar | shogunx: congratulations... |
| 19:12.13 | shogunx | lekvar iirc tpconfig or tpset or so will set the bios options. |
| 19:12.29 | lekvar | Blissex: there are, but they don't seem to cover late 2.6 kernels. The recipes in them don't typically apply to udev either. Kind of messy. |
| 19:12.33 | shogunx | lekvar so try the oss sound instead of alsa. |
| 19:12.47 | lekvar | Hey i *got* my sound working :) I'm proud of that. |
| 19:12.59 | astronut | what are we punishing IBM for? |
| 19:13.02 | Blissex | lekvar: no surprise there... You know about the Thinkpad wiki of course... |
| 19:13.04 | shogunx | what can you not get working? |
| 19:13.08 | astronut | abrotman: they're screweing me over w/ my laptop purchase |
| 19:13.16 | abrotman | astronut: IBM ? |
| 19:13.20 | astronut | lenovo |
| 19:13.22 | astronut | same diff |
| 19:13.25 | abrotman | not same diff |
| 19:13.26 | lekvar | Blissex: It used to be set as my homepage |
| 19:13.36 | Blissex | lekvar: a true religion then :-) |
| 19:13.40 | abrotman | astronut: how are they screwing you ? |
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| 19:14.24 | lekvar | Anyway I'm trying to get a cardbus ethernet card working on this thing. It seems that an IRQ isn't assigned for cardbus for some reason. |
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| 19:14.38 | po0k | !encode |
| 19:14.41 | po0k | !transcode |
| 19:14.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, transcode is a linux text-console utility for video stream processing. http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/, or xk gives it a stamp of approval |
| 19:14.59 | po0k | is it possible to encode avi to vob (DVD) ? |
| 19:15.05 | abrotman | po0k: try to /msg the bot |
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| 19:15.09 | marco13185 | how do I exit x and prevent gdm from restarting? |
| 19:15.15 | astronut | marco13185: sudo pkill gdm |
| 19:15.17 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 19:15.27 | lekvar | Maybe I'll get myself an intel powerbook and work on linux for that. It'd probably be easier. *smirk* |
| 19:15.30 | jadejade | astronut: brute |
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| 19:15.36 | seb- | marco13185: killall -9 X gdm |
| 19:15.49 | astronut | jadejade: effective |
| 19:16.02 | jadejade | yeah pkill/grep are nice but doint he init way is cleaner |
| 19:16.04 | Blissex | lekvar: Cardbus handling has changed _completely_ in recent kernel released. |
| 19:16.06 | seb- | abrotman: ahh...i like your way better |
| 19:16.13 | abrotman | WHAT?! |
| 19:16.18 | astronut | jadejade: phhh |
| 19:16.20 | astronut | hey, wait |
| 19:16.22 | astronut | come on now |
| 19:16.24 | astronut | invoke-rc.d |
| 19:16.24 | seb- | abrotman: fedora has a gdm-stop comment but /etc/init.d/gdm stop works for me |
| 19:16.25 | abrotman | seb-: duh :) |
| 19:16.35 | astronut | that's the Debian Way (tm) |
| 19:16.40 | astronut | (for maintainer scripts) |
| 19:16.56 | n0t_flan | lekvar, this is unrelated, but do you remember the name of the package/command required to send a system into suspend-to-RAM mode? |
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| 19:17.18 | abrotman | swswap ? |
| 19:17.25 | abrotman | !suspend |
| 19:17.25 | dpkg | well, suspend is check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , no apm nor acpi is required or suspend2 (msg dpkg about - works for me beautifully!!) |
| 19:17.29 | n0t_flan | That's probably it. |
| 19:17.31 | n0t_flan | Thanks. |
| 19:17.46 | lekvar | I don't recall. My laptop's batteries are kaput so I've no reason not ot leave it on all the time |
| 19:17.51 | lekvar | sinceit's plugged in |
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| 19:18.12 | |ryan| | how do you close stdin and stdout in a shell script? |
| 19:18.18 | jadejade | |ryan|: eh? |
| 19:18.24 | jadejade | close? |
| 19:18.31 | jadejade | you could pipe it to > /dev/null |
| 19:18.45 | lekvar | ÃAre there any contemporary laptops around which are both a) very solidly built and b) don't suck monkey nuggests on linux? |
| 19:19.02 | |ryan| | no, I need to make sure the file discriptor is closed, not just discarded. |
| 19:19.07 | jadejade | lekvar: lenovo?, personally id go for apple, but hte macbooks seem to have issue |
| 19:19.12 | jadejade | |ryan|: #bash |
| 19:19.12 | dvs | lekvar: lenovo |
| 19:19.22 | jadejade | lenovo is cheap chinese shit |
| 19:19.26 | jadejade | what matters is the thinkpad |
| 19:19.28 | tcsetattr | |rayn|, to close it use exec >&- 2>&- |
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| 19:19.34 | dvs | !pal jadejade |
| 19:19.47 | astronut | lekvar: supposedly lenovo |
| 19:19.48 | jadejade | !slap dvs |
| 19:19.52 | astronut | though right now, i'm having smoe problems with thim |
| 19:19.53 | astronut | them |
| 19:20.00 | lekvar | AFAIK lenovo made/makes thinkpads according to ibm specs, and their own models according to... fung shuei or something |
| 19:20.01 | astronut | i ordered a z60m, and my order is having issues |
| 19:20.22 | Think_Different_ | i prefer apple |
| 19:20.23 | robin_sz | apart from their ripoff "0%" finance |
| 19:20.27 | robin_sz | fsckers |
| 19:20.37 | astronut | lekvar: they are supposed to be very solidly built (at least the old ones were) and they have great linux compatibility |
| 19:20.45 | lekvar | Think_Different_: don't think i'm not tempted to march down to the apple store and blow my checking account on one |
| 19:20.50 | astronut | when i was shopping around, most of the DD's reocmmended thinkpads |
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| 19:20.59 | astronut | Think_Different_: really? |
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| 19:21.07 | astronut | you perfer apple? whou would have thought? ;-) |
| 19:21.08 | Think_Different_ | im on one right now |
| 19:21.20 | Think_Different_ | installng debian on my pc |
| 19:21.22 | lekvar | Think_Different_: ppc leenooks? |
| 19:21.24 | jadejade | debian |
| 19:21.39 | bitlogic | does anyone has icedata500 adsl modem and has problems on compile the driver for kernel 2.6? |
| 19:21.40 | jadejade | Think_Different_: think ubuntu for mac, save yourself |
| 19:21.59 | Think_Different_ | nothanks, im fine with mac os |
| 19:22.04 | robin_sz | 0% finanance for a year ... but in the teeny weeny small print, unless you can prove it was insured, and had the benefit of insurance assigned to Dell finance from the day it arrived, they reserve the right to arrange their own insurance .... which works out at just under £200/year on a £500 system |
| 19:22.04 | astronut | bitlogic: i just use ethernet for my dsl modem |
| 19:22.06 | Think_Different_ | its my pc |
| 19:22.07 | robin_sz | wankers. |
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| 19:22.30 | lekvar | Just to give an idea, the 600e is such a PITA that even the notoriously capable Ubuntu installer couldn't deal with it as of maybe 6mos ago |
| 19:22.48 | abrotman | the debian installer? |
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| 19:22.58 | jadejade | abrotman: hahaha |
| 19:23.03 | jadejade | !d-i |
| 19:23.03 | lekvar | haha i should try out freebsd on this thing. that might make for an amusing project |
| 19:23.03 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
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| 19:23.32 | bitlogic | astronut, unicorn_eth? |
| 19:24.09 | astronut | bitlogic: no, just standard ehternet driver |
| 19:24.10 | astronut | s |
| 19:24.12 | Think_Different_ | ive got a question. |
| 19:24.12 | astronut | bitlogic: different brand |
| 19:24.20 | astronut | bitlogic: i just run the pppoe stuff over eth0 |
| 19:24.24 | astronut | then eth1 is LAN |
| 19:24.38 | tux | s |
| 19:24.42 | bitlogic | astronut, mine is usb modem |
| 19:24.47 | lekvar | Blissex: Any suggestions where to find out about the new cardbus handling you mentioned, and what kernel boot parameters might have interesting effects? |
| 19:24.48 | astronut | ya |
| 19:24.53 | astronut | mine has that, but i don't even bother tring |
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| 19:24.57 | astronut | not worth the effort |
| 19:25.04 | lekvar | Blissex: (asuming that old "guides" are going to be at best misinformed on the subject now) |
| 19:25.04 | astronut | since it has ethernet and a card is only like 5 bucks |
| 19:25.12 | Bac9 | valdyn: thanx, it worked (after a bit of guesswork) |
| 19:25.13 | IceZone | server vert.synchro.net |
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| 19:25.27 | bitlogic | astronut, my problem is that mine is only usb :( |
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| 19:25.45 | bitlogic | and I can't compile driver ... |
| 19:25.45 | Think_Different_ | I just installed debian, the base system only. I need to apt-get stuff (Fluxbox, Xfce, gdm etc...) but it wont connect. I did a net install btw and it donwloaded just fine |
| 19:26.03 | bitlogic | on kernel 2.6.15 (testing) |
| 19:26.15 | astronut | bitlogic: sucks |
| 19:26.16 | abrotman | Think_Different_: dmesg | grep eth |
| 19:26.16 | astronut | uhmm |
| 19:26.19 | astronut | try module-assistant? |
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| 19:26.46 | bitlogic | astronut, uhm, I don't know that! |
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| 19:27.14 | abrotman | !distract astronut |
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| 19:27.39 | astronut | oh, abrotman, i finished my NM |
| 19:27.44 | lekvar | s/yada/blah/g |
| 19:27.50 | astronut | now to wait on HE then joerg, then elmo |
| 19:27.59 | bitlogic | astronut, I already downloaded unicorn and unicorn-source ... and nothing solves it |
| 19:28.00 | abrotman | astronut: eh ? |
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| 19:28.25 | astronut | bitlogic: read the make-kpkg docs |
| 19:28.25 | bitlogic | astronut, just a second because I have to disconnect |
| 19:28.27 | astronut | ok |
| 19:28.32 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: what is the "next-server" options in the dhcp.conf file? |
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| 19:28.35 | astronut | abrotman: rember i was working on becoming a DD? |
| 19:28.36 | abrotman | astronut: that's .. like a record :) |
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| 19:28.43 | akrus | hey :) |
| 19:28.52 | abrotman | astronut: though .. it may still take a bit .. |
| 19:28.54 | akrus | can someone tell me if Debian already has Apache 2.2 compiled in repos? |
| 19:29.08 | astronut | abrotman: oh, i know, though it's gotten better lately |
| 19:29.12 | Blissex | lekvar: well, IIRC |
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| 19:29.16 | jadejade | akrus: no |
| 19:29.24 | akrus | jadejade: okay :) |
| 19:29.26 | jadejade | !policy apache2 |
| 19:29.26 | astronut | where are keyboard layouts stored/ |
| 19:29.32 | astronut | and you switch w/ xmodmap right? |
| 19:29.39 | akrus | !policy apache2 |
| 19:29.41 | akrus | o_O |
| 19:29.48 | Blissex | lekvar: well, the new style Cardbus is handled as if it were an extension of the PCI bus, not the 'pcmcia-utils' no longer are relevant or usable. |
| 19:29.57 | Blissex | lekvar: same for most cardbus drivers. |
| 19:29.59 | abrotman | astronut: dunno .. tarzeau is still "in process" |
| 19:30.26 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 19:30.26 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 19:30.32 | lekvar | Blissex: sounds pretty hit or miss then |
| 19:30.34 | abrotman | !info apache2-common sid |
| 19:30.35 | dpkg | apache2-common: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0.55-4 (sid), Packaged size: 787 kB, Installed size: 3060 kB |
| 19:30.47 | jadejade | abrotman is the man |
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| 19:31.06 | abrotman | i am? |
| 19:31.13 | Blissex | lekvar: well, to me seems to work fairly decently. There is a new utility called 'pccardctl' to tweak how it operates. |
| 19:31.26 | bitlogicus | astronut, I don't know why but my nick, bitlogic is still connected !! |
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| 19:31.44 | astronut | bitlogicus: didn't time out yet |
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| 19:32.16 | abrotman | bitlogicus: takes about five minutes usually |
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| 19:33.39 | Garp | Hi. |
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| 19:33.50 | abrotman | astronut: do you even have any packages yet? |
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| 19:34.48 | Garp | Question: I heard about a tool that allow to display CPU usage by X11 window (not by process). I cant remember the name of it. Anybody can help? Thanks. |
| 19:34.54 | astronut | abrotman: i had packages a long time ago? |
| 19:35.02 | Blissex | lekvar: the idea is that most regular PCI drivers now work with PCMCIA devices too, one does not need both. |
| 19:35.02 | abrotman | astronut: you did ? |
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| 19:35.12 | marco__ | how do I enable the composite extension in xorg |
| 19:35.21 | astronut | abrotman: easyh10, dav-text, graphmonkey, was on the cyrus team |
| 19:35.24 | astronut | just recently adopted pork |
| 19:35.31 | Blissex | marco__: very carefully and with great reluctance. |
| 19:35.32 | abrotman | oh yeah ... |
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| 19:35.43 | marco__ | Blissex, heh, my config currently has this: Section "Extensions" |
| 19:35.43 | marco__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.43 | marco__ | EndSection |
| 19:35.43 | seb- | is there an app to show battery power of your debian laptop? |
| 19:35.49 | lekvar | Blissex: pccardctl doesn't accomplish anything unfortunately |
| 19:35.50 | marco__ | is that how I do it |
| 19:35.59 | astronut | seb-: of course, what window manager do you use? |
| 19:36.03 | lekvar | Blissex: (just tried fiddling with it) oh well |
| 19:36.12 | astronut | or destkop environment |
| 19:36.15 | seb- | astronut: gnome with standard default one i guess |
| 19:36.23 | Garp | seb-: Many. Some are included with KDE or Gnome (if you use one of them, just look there first) |
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| 19:36.27 | astronut | (wm is metacity) |
| 19:36.37 | tarzeau | seb-: there's even GNUstep ones |
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| 19:36.40 | abrotman | seb-: right click on the panel .. "Add to Panel" .. find the battery applet |
| 19:36.42 | astronut | seb-: gnome-power-manager |
| 19:36.44 | lekvar | oh wow i need to read my kernel log more often "kernel: atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7f on isa0060/serio0)" neat! |
| 19:37.21 | astronut | lekvar: that's prob a multimedia key |
| 19:37.21 | seb- | astronut: thanks |
| 19:37.37 | abrotman | i don't think gnome-power-manager is the same as a battery applet .. but whatever |
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| 19:38.23 | jadejade | how can I remove all broken symlinks in a directory¿? |
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| 19:38.39 | tarzeau | jadejade: using symlinks tool |
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| 19:39.01 | marco__ | how do I enable the composite extension in xorg |
| 19:39.08 | abrotman | not in debian yet |
| 19:39.11 | jadejade | tarso: thanks! |
| 19:39.15 | marco__ | abrotman, ???? |
| 19:39.19 | abrotman | !!!! |
| 19:39.19 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 19:39.21 | jadejade | marcels: in unstable yes, but check #xorg |
| 19:39.22 | jadejade | !composite |
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| 19:39.28 | jadejade | !xorg |
| 19:39.28 | dpkg | it has been said that xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 19:39.33 | abrotman | compiz is in sid ? |
| 19:39.37 | abrotman | !info compiz sid |
| 19:39.41 | jadejade | no |
| 19:39.44 | marco__ | !composite |
| 19:39.45 | jadejade | !xgl |
| 19:39.45 | dpkg | from memory, xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running.check http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease or ask me about "compiz" and "xgl-howto", or see http://getkororaa.com/ for a live-cd with xgl. It'll be in Debian after xorg 7.0 is in. |
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| 19:39.58 | jadejade | so, we have to wait until the x7 transition |
| 19:40.05 | killown | do what erro is that xfce4-panel: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string ? |
| 19:40.05 | abrotman | jadejade: so he can't do it .. which is what i said ... |
| 19:40.12 | jadejade | abrotman: indeed |
| 19:40.26 | VolVE | hey all, I've got a large mv operation going on, was wondering if there was any way to measure disk transfer rate currently on the system? |
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| 19:40.37 | giacus | hello |
| 19:40.48 | marco__ | !compiz |
| 19:40.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, compiz is probably a combined window manager / composite manager that uses OpenGL for rendering. Currently, it is only working correctly if run on Xgl. |
| 19:40.56 | jadejade | any ideas on why when I shut down my machine, and its stopping all the services (I assume the symlinks in /etc/rc0.d) it says stopping xdm, and bittorrrent, but none of those services (files) are in the rc shutdown dir? |
| 19:41.00 | marco__ | !xgl-howto |
| 19:41.00 | dpkg | [xgl-howto] xgl may or may not work on your system. Currently supports nVidia/ATI. http://battlehorse.homelinux.net/w/Wiki.jsp?page=Xgl |
| 19:41.35 | Thug-N-Me | how do i get 3d Acceleration for my machine ? |
| 19:41.48 | jadejade | Thug-N-Me: what video card |
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| 19:42.03 | abrotman | marco__: /msg the bot |
| 19:42.10 | marco__ | abrotman, sorry |
| 19:42.27 | Thug-N-Me | jadejade 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
| 19:42.35 | abrotman | marco__: no .. it's just preferred .. nothing to apologize for |
| 19:42.37 | jadejade | !tell Thug-N-Me about mesa |
| 19:42.48 | abrotman | wtf does mesa have to do with that? |
| 19:42.55 | Thug-N-Me | jadejade Tungsten Graphics, Inc Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915G 20050225 N/A |
| 19:42.58 | abrotman | what version of X .. way more important |
| 19:43.00 | jadejade | is there gl for that? |
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| 19:43.05 | Thug-N-Me | jadejade driver version 1.3 Mesa 6.3.2 |
| 19:43.09 | jadejade | brb |
| 19:43.10 | marco__ | I'm confused, is xgl another x server? |
| 19:43.38 | gteppel_ | Is there a way to say that whenever a folder or file is created under a given folder that it is given specific default permisions |
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| 19:43.47 | abrotman | astronut: so you'll just have to wait another year? |
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| 19:44.06 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman no clue what vserion of x |
| 19:44.08 | abrotman | !tell gteppel_ about umask |
| 19:44.21 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: dpkg -l xserver-xorg |
| 19:44.38 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman 6.8.2-77.1 |
| 19:45.00 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what does that whole line say? |
| 19:45.21 | Thug-N-Me | ii libc6 2.3.5 |
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| 19:45.35 | abrotman | so you're using an out of date etch? |
| 19:45.55 | Thug-N-Me | hmm no latest |
| 19:45.59 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: grep i810 /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:46.04 | abrotman | no .. your etch is out of date |
| 19:46.13 | abrotman | !info libc6 etch |
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| 19:46.23 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-7 (etch), Packaged size: 4613 kB, Installed size: 10920 kB |
| 19:46.28 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 19:46.37 | Thug-N-Me | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:46.51 | bitlogicus | what does it mean on unicorn README file for compiling when it says: To build the modules you may need to build them in the module |
| 19:46.51 | bitlogicus | directory (unicorn_usb/unicorn_pci) instead of using the top-level |
| 19:46.51 | bitlogicus | Makefile. The error appears when doing MODPOST. |
| 19:46.59 | Vantage13__ | n0t_flan: I'm getting "pxe-t01: file not found". is there any log to see what file the laptop is requesting that it can't find? |
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| 19:47.02 | Thug-N-Me | !info libc6 etch: event not found |
| 19:47.10 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: your X should have DRI then |
| 19:47.13 | astronut | !slap abrotman |
| 19:47.15 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: but your system is still out of date |
| 19:47.22 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: if nothing else |
| 19:47.25 | abrotman | !tell Thug-N-Me about drxx |
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| 19:47.34 | astronut | !botwar |
| 19:47.34 | dpkg | apt2: pfft |
| 19:48.07 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman oo confused now .... what do i need to run first ? |
| 19:48.18 | marco__ | hmm, do you think installing xfce with it's own graphical installer is a good idea |
| 19:48.26 | marco__ | or should I wait for the newest version to enter unstable? |
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| 19:48.31 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: eh? ... your etch is out of date .. and you should reconfigure X and tell it you want DRI enabled |
| 19:48.42 | n0t_flan | Vantage13__, I think it writes to syslog. |
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| 19:48.51 | abrotman | marco__: unless you know how to clean it up later .. i'd wait |
| 19:48.55 | marco__ | abrotman, ok |
| 19:49.02 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman so thats all i need to do reconfigure X and tell it that i want DRI enabled |
| 19:49.05 | abrotman | marco__: you'll never even notice |
| 19:49.08 | abrotman | Thug-N-Me: hopefully |
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| 19:49.25 | marco__ | abrotman, ??? |
| 19:49.32 | abrotman | marco__: that it's the old version |
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| 19:49.50 | marco__ | abrotman, no, the new version has a whole bunch of new features, lol |
| 19:50.07 | Vantage13__ | n0t_flan: I see the DHCP requests in there but nothing for tftpd. Is there somewhere else that tftpd needs to be configured other than inetd.conf and dhcpd.conf? |
| 19:50.13 | abrotman | marco__: you've gotten along this far without them .. :) |
| 19:50.22 | marco__ | abrotman, hehe, good way of thinking about it |
| 19:50.36 | abrotman | give them time to get bugs out .. |
| 19:50.43 | atrus | i've got xterm looking for the Monospace font, and successfully using Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, as specified in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf. gnome-font-properties looks for Monospace however, and finds something completely different (looks like OpenSymbol). suggestions? |
| 19:50.56 | marco__ | abrotman, they have the package for amd64 built, but not for the rest yet |
| 19:51.09 | atrus | er, no, it seems to find Nimbus Mono L erroneously |
| 19:51.11 | n0t_flan | Vantage13__, PM? |
| 19:51.17 | abrotman | marco__: eh? |
| 19:51.17 | marco__ | I guess they'll release it today |
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| 19:51.41 | abrotman | marco__: 4.3.9 ? |
| 19:51.43 | marco__ | abrotman, the xfce meta package is updated for all architectures, but it's dependencies are only updated to the newest v ersion for the AMD64 |
| 19:51.44 | marco__ | abrotman, ya |
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| 19:52.18 | abrotman | marco__: says it's built everywhere |
| 19:52.24 | marco__ | linkzor |
| 19:52.30 | abrotman | marco__: apt-get update;apt-cache show xfce4 |
| 19:53.17 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman if glxgears -printfps works means i have 3d acceleration ? |
| 19:53.23 | abrotman | nope |
| 19:53.25 | Thug-N-Me | 9092 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1818.349 FPS |
| 19:53.29 | Thug-N-Me | hmm |
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| 19:53.35 | Thug-N-Me | whats that then ? |
| 19:53.36 | bitlogicus | does anyone already build unicorn from source for kernel 2.6.15? |
| 19:53.37 | Thug-N-Me | oopengl ? |
| 19:53.39 | abrotman | but that seems high enough |
| 19:53.40 | Thug-N-Me | opengl |
| 19:53.48 | abrotman | glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 19:53.59 | marco__ | abrotman, take this for example: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xfce4-panel |
| 19:54.01 | Thug-N-Me | direct rendering: Yes |
| 19:54.05 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman |
| 19:54.12 | abrotman | then you have DRI .. have a nice day |
| 19:54.36 | Thug-N-Me | abrotman thanks you . you too |
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| 19:55.48 | abrotman | ask #cedega |
| 19:56.10 | marco__ | when do they plan to update the unstable repository today? |
| 19:56.50 | astronut | !dinstall |
| 19:56.50 | dpkg | methinks dinstall is the Incoming queue processor that runs on master daily - It's !dinstall until the next dinstall run, or obsolete. katie has replaced it. |
| 19:57.08 | astronut | !katie |
| 19:57.08 | dpkg | hmm... katie is who I seek to emulate, or the daemon in the Debian archive system that processes new packages and inserts them into the archive. It runs at 1952 UTC daily. the women.kde.org mascot, or 166.82.1.7 |
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| 19:57.18 | astronut | 1952 UTC |
| 19:57.28 | astronut | marco__: is when it starts |
| 19:57.33 | astronut | takes time to proccess, then push to mirrors |
| 19:57.44 | astronut | i find it's usually updated by 6-7pm EST |
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| 19:57.52 | marco__ | astronut, k |
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| 19:58.34 | olace | hey kaduços |
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| 19:58.40 | marco__ | abrotman, speaking of time, how do I change the time in linux? |
| 19:58.47 | abrotman | marco__: /msg dpkg ntp |
| 19:59.16 | jadejade | should dbus be in runlevels 0 6?, or what services should go there? |
| 19:59.17 | astronut | or use date(1) to do so manually |
| 19:59.29 | astronut | jadejade: that's what gets done on reboot |
| 19:59.31 | astronut | so stopping stuff |
| 19:59.47 | jadejade | yeah but should user services go there? |
| 19:59.55 | DA_ | checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables - i know i know the package that fixes this but im drawing a blank... a little help? |
| 20:00.07 | jadejade | I have things like dns-clean on S.. :-P |
| 20:00.11 | astronut | DA_: build-essential |
| 20:00.17 | DA_ | astronut: tyvm |
| 20:00.17 | abrotman | jade: sure .. when something has to happen to shut down cleanly |
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| 20:00.58 | nick|here | hi. i have installed my wireless system, my access point and my pcmcia card to my laptop. (debian with 2.6 kernel) i can find my ap with iwlist ath0 scan but i couldn't be able to establish a connection |
| 20:01.52 | Groundy | Hey, it seems that libarts and libartsc0 are conflicting. can I just remove libarts? |
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| 20:03.28 | Groundy | (the only place I can find libarts is in oldstable) |
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| 20:03.58 | bitlogicus | where can I find some kernel >= 2.6.13 ? |
| 20:04.03 | abrotman | Groundy: new C++ ABI |
| 20:04.07 | abrotman | bitlogicus: for what? |
| 20:04.07 | bitlogicus | (debian package) |
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| 20:04.18 | abrotman | Groundy: the c0 is the newer version |
| 20:04.18 | bitlogicus | where can I find some kernel <= 2.6.13 ? |
| 20:04.21 | bitlogicus | sorry |
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| 20:04.25 | abrotman | bitlogicus: for what |
| 20:04.40 | bitlogicus | unicorn seems to compile with that kernel |
| 20:04.46 | bitlogicus | unicorn-source |
| 20:05.03 | jadejade | is it possible to rename a user in unix? |
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| 20:05.19 | nick|here | rrrohara i can find my ap with iwlist ath0 scan but i couldn't be able to establish a connection |
| 20:05.20 | Groundy | abrotman: so I should just apt-get remove the old version, and anything that depends on it, and then install the new one |
| 20:05.24 | abrotman | jadejade: yes .. but you might have to do some manual chown stuff |
| 20:05.30 | Groundy | abrotman: the new version should conflict with th eold version *tut* *tut |
| 20:05.31 | nick|here | s/rrrohara/bul |
| 20:05.33 | abrotman | Groundy: apt-get install <newversion> |
| 20:05.33 | gteppel_ | Why is the default umask in Debian set to 022 in /etc/profile, wouldn't it make more sense to have something like this 027 so the everyone permission is 0 |
| 20:05.34 | jadejade | abrotman: how? |
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| 20:05.43 | AnyFile | jadejade, use usermod |
| 20:05.43 | abrotman | jadejade: how what? |
| 20:05.57 | Groundy | abrotman: I can't due to : trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libartsc.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libarts |
| 20:06.07 | abrotman | !tell Groundy about overwrite |
| 20:06.13 | bitlogicus | abrotman: do you know where? |
| 20:06.19 | Groundy | abrotman: so i went looking for the old version, and it's only in oldstable, so i figured it can be removed, |
| 20:06.22 | AnyFile | but then you have to check that everythings has been correctly changed |
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| 20:06.39 | jadejade | AnyFile: if I use usermod, will my old user be deleted? |
| 20:06.40 | Groundy | abrotman: yea, okay I figured file a bug too :-P |
| 20:06.53 | AnyFile | read well the man pages |
| 20:07.04 | abrotman | !tell bitlogicus about sdn |
| 20:07.20 | AnyFile | Do you want to change the name or the numeric id, jadejade ? |
| 20:07.33 | jadejade | AnyFile: name |
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| 20:07.50 | HuK0B | hi. How I can make my apache to work faster I mean to load images faster not one by one. I saw apache that load images faster. And I installed thttpd server to see is it possible and it load it fast. here you can see http://62.213.165.195 and thttpd http://62.213.165.194:90/ |
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| 20:08.14 | AnyFile | this is easier: everywhere the new name will appear |
| 20:08.25 | AnyFile | and the user has to use the new name to login |
| 20:08.31 | jadejade | oh ok |
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| 20:10.36 | Mavinet | Somebody can help me to configure postfix? |
| 20:11.02 | heartsblood | Could anybody recomend a safe/easy dns server? All I need it to do is resolve domainnames on my lan. |
| 20:11.10 | peritus | heartsblood: dnsmasq |
| 20:11.52 | abrotman | Mavinet: just ask .. also consider #postfix |
| 20:12.25 | bitlogicus | abrotman, thanls |
| 20:12.27 | AnyFile | Can anybody help me to solve an installation mistery? WHile I am installing all the hostname are resolved to 1.0.0.1 andeverithings fail. But if (in a separate shell) I ping the same hostname, I got the correct IP |
| 20:12.34 | bitlogicus | abrotman, thanks |
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| 20:13.21 | jadejade | what is the default password for a user created in debian? |
| 20:13.36 | heartsblood | peritus: tyvm |
| 20:13.48 | Mavinet | abrotman he was la but nobody answers |
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| 20:14.18 | abrotman | he was la ? |
| 20:14.29 | abrotman | jadejade: there isn't one |
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| 20:15.07 | jadejade | abrotman: well I did usermod -d /home/marc -m -s /bin/bash -g marc -l marc marccd to move user marccd to marc, the default password is kept right? |
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| 20:15.15 | jadejade | ahh, nevermind, ssh problem :) |
| 20:15.18 | heartsblood | peritus: thats exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot! |
| 20:15.24 | abrotman | jadejade: should be |
| 20:16.00 | jadejade | god bless webmin |
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| 20:16.39 | abrotman | ew |
| 20:16.56 | jadejade | yeah I changed the user name but I forgot to change the AllowUser clause in my sshd.conf |
| 20:17.00 | jadejade | so, I couldnt login |
| 20:17.05 | Red_Cloud | Does anyone here use the debian package fwbuilder to firewall their machine? |
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| 20:17.38 | hedpe | i have a HUGE amount of printk()'s printed out that i want to ensure i get all of them, dmesg does not give me all of them |
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| 20:20.23 | Red_Cloud | I am reading the fwbuilder manual http://www.fwbuilder.org/UsersGuide.pdf and would like to discuss some general (not specific) questions concerning this firewall. The instruction manual get to the nitty-gritty too quickly and I need more of an overall view before I start to configure this firewall. Help? |
| 20:21.06 | abrotman | learn iptables instead? |
| 20:22.14 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, I wish that I was that intelligent, but my imagination is limited and I cannot hold all of the firewall configuration in my head. The complexities are too much for me to see at one time. The gui of fwbuilder aids me quite a bit with this. |
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| 20:22.45 | abrotman | there is more than one GUI firewall builder thingie |
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| 20:24.43 | jdhutchin1 | Red_Cloud, I've never used fwbuilder, but maybe if you learn a little iptables first and then go to the gui it will make more sense |
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| 20:25.11 | abrotman | !iptables |
| 20:25.11 | dpkg | well, iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 20:25.31 | Zvpun | I need some docu on how to share screen sessions, something like a howto or talk. Unfortunately searching for screen on google gives 1000 hits but it is hard to search for the screen tool |
| 20:25.50 | astronut | Zvpun: screen -x? |
| 20:25.52 | jdhutchin1 | Zvpun, check the screen manpage |
| 20:25.56 | astronut | connects to an already open session |
| 20:25.59 | astronut | and lets you share it |
| 20:26.06 | Groundy | Zvpun: screen -x is a good place to start |
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| 20:26.20 | Zvpun | thanks. I go from that |
| 20:26.31 | Zvpun | Still if you know a nice screen link post it please |
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| 20:27.06 | Vantage13_ | Zvpun: this is the one I use as a reference http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen |
| 20:27.08 | astronut | Zvpun: just RTFMP, it has all you need to know in there |
| 20:27.23 | Groundy | Zvpun: google tells me http://www.bangmoney.org/presentations/screen.html might be a useful page |
| 20:27.39 | astronut | does dpkg have a google command? |
| 20:27.47 | astronut | !google dpkg #debian commands |
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| 20:27.52 | Groundy | !google screen |
| 20:27.52 | dpkg | Google says dpkg #debian commands is at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23debian/20040102.html.gz |
| 20:27.56 | dpkg | Google says screen is at http://www.screenit.com/ or http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ or http://screen.oxfordjournals.org/ or http://www.screenmag.com/ or http://www.screenindia.com/ |
| 20:28.10 | Groundy | !google screen man page |
| 20:28.14 | dpkg | Google says screen man page is at http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/unix/package/epics/extensions/iocConsole/screen.1.html or http://www.bangmoney.org/presentations/screen.html or http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/screen.1.html or http://www.mediacollege.com/cgi-bin/man/page.cgi?topic=screen or http://gentoo-wiki.com/MAN_screen |
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| 20:28.54 | Vantage13_ | n0t_flan: got it! |
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| 20:29.31 | abrotman | hrm .. craving for ricotta ... odd .. |
| 20:31.45 | astronut | ricotta? the cheese? |
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| 20:33.30 | abrotman | astronut: yes .. i'm not sure it has another definition :) |
| 20:33.39 | astronut | abrotman: just sounded weird |
| 20:33.42 | Overand | Any suggestions for a way to rename a directory full of files with spaces in them to underscores? |
| 20:33.55 | Overand | like "File Name - Whatever" to "File_Name_-_Whatever" |
| 20:34.24 | abrotman | astronut: i love ricotta .. but i don't normally get cravings for it :) |
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| 20:34.34 | Overand | sounds like a job for regex and something complex |
| 20:34.35 | Overand | heh |
| 20:34.41 | abrotman | Overand: sed? man rename ? |
| 20:34.49 | Groundy | Overand: sed or perl, |
| 20:34.52 | astronut | Overand: sed |
| 20:34.55 | Overand | abrotman: I don't know regex at *all* |
| 20:35.00 | abrotman | time to learn! |
| 20:35.15 | Overand | wow |
| 20:35.17 | Overand | 'rename' rules |
| 20:35.31 | abrotman | if it does what you want .. why not use it :) |
| 20:35.37 | Overand | i figured i was going to have to feed something ugly through mv |
| 20:35.55 | abrotman | Overand: see .. we do know some stuff in here |
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| 20:36.08 | Overand | haha |
| 20:36.11 | Overand | no kidding |
| 20:36.14 | marco13185 | I WIN |
| 20:36.14 | Overand | that's why I asked here. |
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| 20:36.36 | marco13185 | woops, sorry about that |
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| 20:36.45 | Groundy | looks like a perl wrapper around mv :-) |
| 20:36.51 | abrotman | it might be .. no idea |
| 20:37.04 | Yan^ | hello people I would like to get the dual display work under debian etch. somebody can help? |
| 20:37.05 | Overand | haha |
| 20:37.06 | abrotman | Groundy: cat `which rename` |
| 20:37.19 | marco13185 | would you mind getting raped by this chick? http://www.grupo-utopia.com/blog/isou/News/1_21_113004_lafave_debra_350.jpg |
| 20:37.20 | Overand | " rename 's/\ /_/' *.extention" is sooort of doing it |
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| 20:37.29 | Red_Cloud | jdhutchin, I understand interfaces, ports, protocol, services, spoofing, addresses, etc. What I am needing to know is the relationships within the fwbuilder gui between "firewall", "objects", and "services" and their interrelation. |
| 20:37.39 | Groundy | except it probably uses perl internals to rename the file |
| 20:37.57 | Overand | it only does one space at a time |
| 20:37.58 | Overand | heh |
| 20:38.00 | Thug-N-Me | does anyone runs doom3 linux version ? |
| 20:38.01 | Groundy | Overand: either use y/\ /_/ or s/\ /_/g |
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| 20:38.26 | Overand | i actually just hit the up arrow a ton, haha, but thanks Groundy |
| 20:38.40 | abrotman | Overand: try a g at the end |
| 20:38.44 | Overand | i really need to just properly learn regex |
| 20:38.48 | Overand | abrotman: yeah, Groundy suggested that |
| 20:38.49 | abrotman | yes you do |
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| 20:39.29 | Groundy | so you have a problem, and fix it with regex, now you have two problems :-P |
| 20:39.32 | AnyFile | How can I have that when the DNS do not know the IP, it is the server that automatically relays to other servers instead of returning back? |
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| 20:39.45 | chealer9 | Thug-N-Me: no. they just made a linux version for fun |
| 20:39.56 | Overand | heh |
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| 20:40.01 | Thug-N-Me | :)) |
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| 20:40.07 | Thug-N-Me | need help with it man |
| 20:40.16 | Thug-N-Me | the game aint starting |
| 20:40.28 | abrotman | ask #quake ? |
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| 20:40.54 | Overand | the sad thing is that i'll probably end up asking questions like this in #ubuntu eventually, as I'm migrating some of my machines from debian to ubuntu. =/ |
| 20:41.15 | Overand | and i probably won't get as high-quality help |
| 20:41.15 | Overand | haha |
| 20:41.18 | iarenaza | AnyFile DNS servers do that by default. |
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| 20:41.28 | sdsds | i have amd 64 processor is there any problem with installing in k7 kernel, is that the right thing to do |
| 20:41.37 | sdsds | i have 386 packages |
| 20:41.44 | Groundy | well #debian, #ubuntu, #linux - for non-distro specific questions, you get the same answers |
| 20:41.59 | Thug-N-Me | chealer9 the error is " Unknown command 'vid_rest; idRenderSystem::Shutdown(); Sys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg |
| 20:41.59 | Thug-N-Me | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.04 | Overand | i guess i should check out #linux |
| 20:42.07 | thingfish | sdsds: #debian-amd64 |
| 20:42.15 | Overand | i've had bad experiences with #linux channels on various networks |
| 20:42.19 | Yan^ | Hello people, does somebody know how to handle dual monitors under debian etch?? |
| 20:42.28 | dondelelcaro | Yan^: just ask your question. |
| 20:42.59 | chealer9 | Thug-N-Me: I don't know, ask the channel. understand, though, that if your problem is specific to Doom, it's not supported here. perhaps try Google instead |
| 20:43.04 | Groundy | Overand: you mean how they don't help as much as gloat? |
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| 20:43.29 | Yan^ | dondelelcaro: I have two monitors switched on. I have the same display> I would like to get one screen stretched over 2 monitors. dpkg-reconfigure does not seem to help. what should I do? |
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| 20:45.17 | chaizzilla | is there a good text/info/man format tutorial i could apt-get for bash? i've got debian sans gui on a thinkpad 560 & am finally at got wireless connectivity point :) |
| 20:46.16 | bucky | chaizzilla: apt-cache search bash-doc |
| 20:46.21 | Groundy | what's in man bash? |
| 20:46.45 | Zvpun | still multiuser screen problem: the other user gets this message: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/9' - please check. |
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| 20:47.12 | chaizzilla | thanks bucky! |
| 20:47.16 | Groundy | Zvpun: did you set the permissions? |
| 20:47.19 | sdsds | i have amd 64 processor is there any problem with installing in k7 kernel, is that the right thing to do |
| 20:47.41 | pyroplasm | chaizzilla: /usr/share/doc/bash is packed with information |
| 20:48.29 | chealer9 | sdsds: you're running arch i386? |
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| 20:48.35 | Zvpun | Groundy: I did: chmod u+s /usr/bin/screen; chmod 755 /var/run/screen; then I started screen as user 1 and did ^A :multiuser on and ^A :aclchg user2 +r "#"; Then the screen -r user1/ did give that message |
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| 20:48.52 | sdsds | chealer9: yes i686 |
| 20:49.06 | chealer9 | sdsds: there's no problem with that kernel and your CPU |
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| 20:49.12 | zrin | what can I do about "!!!XNC Panic!!!: Error loading font -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*"? I do not have a desktop env, just vnc server |
| 20:49.39 | zrin | I've installed xfs and xfonts-base and xfonts-100dpi |
| 20:49.47 | chealer9 | sdsds: oh, i686...I was asking about your Debian architecture. for x86, that can be either i386 or amd64 |
| 20:50.04 | sdsds | chealer9: its 386 |
| 20:50.24 | chealer9 | sdsds: OK. so as I said |
| 20:50.24 | sdsds | chealer9: the best iotion would be to install k7 kernel right |
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| 20:50.40 | sdsds | chealer9: option |
| 20:50.52 | chealer9 | sdsds: I guess that would be the most optimized for 64 bits AMD, yes |
| 20:51.06 | FreshPrince | stoned: here? |
| 20:51.20 | iturk | hi my friends i am programming in j2me and my midlets are hanging in the beggining. Did anyone hasf a similar problem ?? |
| 20:51.31 | Groundy | Zvpun: the other solution is to use the same user for both copies |
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| 20:52.39 | sdsds | chealer9: thanks |
| 20:52.56 | Zvpun | Groundy: I want to give a friend a login account for my machine |
| 20:53.25 | abrotman | iturk: #java |
| 20:53.29 | Zvpun | astronut: can you help me? |
| 20:54.07 | iturk | abrotman: well i am trying my luch i am also there |
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| 20:54.31 | karsten | Zvpun: Um. "adduser" ? |
| 20:54.36 | saanmarcos | how can I replace "home/marccd" with "home/marc" on every file of a directory recursevly? |
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| 20:54.49 | abrotman | man chowb |
| 20:54.51 | abrotman | chown |
| 20:55.01 | karsten | saanmarcos: permissions or text replacement? |
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| 20:55.23 | karsten | saanmarcos: ... or restate your question. |
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| 20:55.34 | Overand | agreed |
| 20:55.39 | Overand | I don't exactly understand it |
| 20:56.00 | Zvpun | karsten: adduser for /dev/pts/9? I think that the pts permissions are reset all the time |
| 20:56.06 | pyroplasm | l |
| 20:56.19 | karsten | Zvpun: WTF are you trying to do? I saw "I want to give a friend a login account for my machine" |
| 20:56.24 | zrin | where can one get font -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*? |
| 20:56.45 | streuner | zrin: heh? |
| 20:56.46 | karsten | Zvpun: For that, adduser. For shared tty sessions, screen or ttysnoop is probably what you're looking for. |
| 20:56.46 | zrin | it seems that xnc can't live without it |
| 20:56.49 | Zvpun | karsten: I want two users to share a screen session |
| 20:57.00 | streuner | zrin: its already installed on your system |
| 20:57.03 | zrin | streuner: !!!XNC Panic!!!: Error loading font -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |
| 20:57.06 | karsten | zrin: I think that's one of the standard X fonts. |
| 20:57.08 | Zvpun | karsten: yes, I want to use screen and got stuck |
| 20:57.29 | karsten | Zvpun: Easiest would be to have your friend start a screen session and you attach to it as root. |
| 20:57.34 | zrin | karsten: I think you're right ... but what could be the problem then? |
| 20:57.39 | saanmarcos | karsten: the string |
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| 20:58.17 | karsten | saanmarcos: Since you can't seem to express yourself: you want to change a string "foo" to "bar" in every file within a directory. Right? |
| 20:58.19 | zrin | streuner: how can I check if the font is really there? |
| 20:58.31 | saanmarcos | karsten: yes |
| 20:58.46 | karsten | saanmarcos: First off, if these are some sort of program files, I'd suggest a variable and a config file so you don't have to go through this, with one point of change. |
| 20:58.52 | karsten | saanmarcos: Secondly: man sed. |
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| 20:59.16 | karsten | saanmarcos: find . -type f -name <pattern> -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i -e 's/foo/bar/g' |
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| 20:59.48 | karsten | saanmarcos: ... will address the current problem. You should work on a copy of the directory until you're certain you've got that right. |
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| 21:00.19 | saanmarcos | karsten: ok so If I wanted to replace home/marccd with home/marc, I would use find . -type f -name "home/marccd" -print0 | xargs -0 sed -i -e 's/home\/marccd/home\/marc/g' ? |
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| 21:00.55 | karsten | saanmarcos: "-name <pattern>" in find refers to the filenames. If your files are consistently named, you can use that to restrict your find output. |
| 21:01.00 | zrin | streuner: I tried xfontsel and it seems that I really do not have helvetica. Is there a way to get it? |
| 21:01.24 | saanmarcos | karsten: I dont need that, so I will just use sed |
| 21:01.25 | karsten | saanmarcos: The xargs part of that pipe will then pass every name find outputs as a file that sed will attempt the substitution on. |
| 21:01.44 | karsten | saanmarcos: You need 'find' because sed doesn't recurse directories. |
| 21:01.59 | saanmarcos | karsten: ah ok |
| 21:01.59 | karsten | saanmarcos: Just drop the '-name <pattern>' part from the find command. |
| 21:02.08 | Zvpun | karsten: how can an attached screen user exit the session? he only has read rights. |
| 21:02.31 | karsten | Zvpun: I'd think 'C-A-d' should work. |
| 21:02.34 | coax | does anyone know a program (or function) to escape output from 'find' |
| 21:02.45 | saanmarcos | coax: escape? |
| 21:02.47 | marco13185 | out of curiosity, do the main debian devs ever stop by around here? |
| 21:03.00 | karsten | coax: Restate your question. |
| 21:03.01 | karsten | !sunday |
| 21:03.02 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
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| 21:03.23 | valdyn | marco13185: what is a main dev? |
| 21:03.30 | Blissex | coax: «escape» in what way? |
| 21:03.33 | streuner | zrin: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 21:03.36 | marco13185 | valdyn, err, like the founders |
| 21:03.48 | Blissex | valdyn: I guess like '/dev/hda' or '/dev/zero' |
| 21:03.58 | zrin | streuner: Linux version 2.6.15-1-k7 (Debian 2.6.15-8) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060212 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-9)) #2 Mon Mar 6 15:42:39 UTC 2006 |
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| 21:04.12 | valdyn | marco13185: ian murduck isnt an active debian dev anymore i think |
| 21:04.17 | valdyn | marco13185: ian murdock isnt an active debian dev anymore i think |
| 21:04.18 | coax | put backslashes in front of spaces, ", ' etc |
| 21:04.20 | laney_ | does anyone here use qmail & ezmlm? |
| 21:04.21 | abrotman | valdyn: he's on hold i think |
| 21:04.28 | karsten | Zvpun: alternatively, "C-a : acladd <username>" may add a user to the screen sessions access list. |
| 21:04.41 | karsten | coax: YOu have filenames with spaces in them? |
| 21:04.50 | karsten | coax: ...and you want to process them with xargs? |
| 21:04.52 | fas3r | anybody use nocat ...? |
| 21:05.03 | Zvpun | karsten: C-A-d didnt work, no he is stuck and cant leave |
| 21:05.12 | zrin | streuner: I found "Bug#197918: xfonts-100dpi: Helvetica (adobe) not exported through xfs", but this is from year 2003 |
| 21:05.29 | karsten | Zvpun: Kill the screen session? |
| 21:05.29 | themoleste | what is an alternate command to chmod to mark a file +x |
| 21:05.37 | karsten | Zvpun: Not sure. I don't do this much. |
| 21:05.41 | streuner | zrin: what version of debian are you running, btw? |
| 21:05.43 | karsten | themoleste: "chmod". |
| 21:05.46 | themoleste | i had a hd corruption.... and chmod and a few other executables are missing |
| 21:05.56 | coax | i have files with spases in them... moastly becaus of windows users that use my server.... |
| 21:06.01 | zrin | streuner: testing i386 ... with vncserver |
| 21:06.12 | karsten | coax: man find. Look for the "print0" option. |
| 21:06.25 | fas3r | i have a problem when i want to start nocat it's say "Can't bind to port 5280: Adresse déjà utilisée. (Is another gateway already running?) |
| 21:06.25 | fas3r | " nobody have a solution please google don't help me ... please |
| 21:06.38 | karsten | themoleste: "sash" has shell builtins for a lot of stuff. I'd suggest a rescue disk boot though. |
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| 21:07.24 | themoleste | that ones dead too... the box is not local, im trying to get it semi-working remotely |
| 21:07.27 | coax | thanks karsten. |
| 21:07.30 | Zvpun | does anyone know how to leave a screen session where you only have read rights? |
| 21:07.44 | themoleste | how bout a way to bypass the +x check? |
| 21:07.45 | streuner | zrin: no idea, 7 goes into testing these days, could be a reason, but that's just a guess... |
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| 21:08.09 | streuner | zrin: you didn't have the problem before? |
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| 21:08.40 | karsten | themoleste: If you can find a local copy of sash and copy it to the remote box, you might be able to work with it. I'd suggest you start looking at other options such as getting a new disk with a recent backup into the box. |
| 21:08.57 | karsten | Zvpun: Kill whatever process is attached to the screen session. Probably the shell he's running. |
| 21:09.00 | zrin | streuner: I don't have desktop on that machine, just vncserver. all other x apps including mozilla and some gtk apps run without problems |
| 21:09.07 | karsten | Zvpun: pstree is your friend. |
| 21:09.40 | zrin | streuner: I just wanted to try xnc (I'm looking for a usable x file manager), but it can't go on without -helvetica- |
| 21:10.36 | abrotman | xfe? |
| 21:10.44 | zrin | streuner: and I do remember -helvetica- from my hpux days 12 years ago... |
| 21:11.15 | karsten | themoleste: ld.so <command> may run a noexec process. |
| 21:11.41 | themoleste | heh |
| 21:11.46 | themoleste | thats gone too :( |
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| 21:12.05 | themoleste | i really dont wanna wait for the local access guy |
| 21:12.14 | karsten | themoleste: /lib/ld.so <command>. See: http://zgp.org/linux-elitists/20010329123619.A12565%40zgp.org.html |
| 21:12.20 | pipeline | zrin, streuner : Hahah, your HP-UX had helvetica? That's pretty insane. Helvetica licensing is like, 200 a seat. |
| 21:12.20 | themoleste | might be late tomorrow before he could do it |
| 21:12.28 | karsten | themoleste: What you want and what you've got are two different things. |
| 21:12.43 | themoleste | ya, im beginning to see that |
| 21:12.46 | zrin | pipeline: ?!? |
| 21:13.03 | zrin | pipeline: so do you have -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |
| 21:13.53 | zrin | streuner: could you please start xfontsel and look if you have helvetica on your system? |
| 21:15.01 | pipeline | zrin: Surely it's an alias for some other font. Helvetica is *not cheap*. |
| 21:15.15 | pipeline | zrin: As a matter of fact, I do have helvetica, but shit, it wasn't cheap :P |
| 21:15.21 | karsten | themoleste: See also: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2003/10/msg00537.html |
| 21:15.36 | streuner | zrin: why not just use gentoo? |
| 21:15.38 | zrin | pipeline: ok, so I should perhaps set an alias :/ ... |
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| 21:15.59 | streuner | !info gentoo |
| 21:16.02 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.55-1 (sid), Packaged size: 771 kB, Installed size: 2444 kB |
| 21:16.06 | pipeline | zrin: "Arial" is the classic Helvetica knockoff. (Because Microsoft didn't want to pay to license it. It was cheaper to do it over from scratch :P) |
| 21:16.23 | zrin | pipeline: oh I see :) |
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| 21:17.01 | pipeline | zrin: I think apple had their own Helvetica lookalike. |
| 21:17.10 | saanmarcos | so, grammar gods, is it specially or especially? |
| 21:17.21 | pipeline | saanmarcos: They're both words. |
| 21:17.30 | pipeline | saanmarcos: They have different meanings, however. |
| 21:17.50 | pipeline | saanmarcos: Mixing them up makes you sound like trailer trash. |
| 21:18.03 | zrin | pipeline: so possibly helvetica in hpux now-12y was also an alias or sth. other than real one? |
| 21:18.09 | marco13185 | is there any one way of changing window managers (like from xfce to fvwm) without having to logout? |
| 21:18.45 | saanmarcos | pipeline: what is the difference? |
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| 21:19.14 | Durin | zrin: on my system the -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* are in the 75dpi directory |
| 21:19.33 | streuner | Durin: what version of debian? |
| 21:19.38 | zrin | Durin: so perhaps I just need 75dpi fonts ... let me see |
| 21:19.52 | karsten | marco13185: That's supported in some but not all window managers. |
| 21:19.58 | marco13185 | karsten, :( |
| 21:20.05 | karsten | marco13185: ... it's a WM-specific feature AFAIK. |
| 21:20.07 | pipeline | zrin: It's also possible that HP-UX, 12 years ago, when HP could afford to rape customers against a post, came with Helvetica. |
| 21:20.13 | pipeline | saanmarcos: I ain't a dictionary. |
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| 21:20.29 | Rawplayer | hi, is anyone of you guy's familiar with troubleshooting on errors with the reiserfs filesystem? |
| 21:20.32 | saanmarcos | pipeline: you are now! whahaha |
| 21:20.33 | pipeline | saanmarcos: What's the difference between "apple" and "orange" |
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| 21:20.41 | pipeline | Rawplayer: Pray. Fervently. The recovery tools are utter shit. |
| 21:20.54 | saanmarcos | pipeline: they are both so sweet! |
| 21:20.57 | pipeline | Rawplayer: Actually, you would be best off just plowing it now and not wasting your time. |
| 21:20.58 | Durin | streuner: woody with backports, but i will look on my sarge and sid system too |
| 21:20.59 | saanmarcos | Rawplayer: consider using XFS |
| 21:21.09 | karsten | Rawplayer: What sort of errors? |
| 21:21.22 | Rawplayer | well i have on a server in a datacenter problems with a partition, i cant do a listing on the mounted harddrive |
| 21:21.26 | Rawplayer | it gives io errors |
| 21:21.36 | Rawplayer | the partition is mounted on /var/log |
| 21:21.36 | pipeline | Rawplayer: You're fucked. :\ |
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| 21:21.59 | Rawplayer | so when i do a ls in /var/log it gives the io error, but when i do less /var/log/auth.log i can just read the logfile |
| 21:22.07 | Rawplayer | this also included for other logfiles |
| 21:22.20 | karsten | Rawplayer: Does dmesg tell you anything? |
| 21:22.26 | karsten | Rawplayer: Is this filesystem or disk media? |
| 21:22.40 | Zvpun | I found some explanation for my screen problem and post it here if someone ist interested in. I got "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/9' - please check." after I su - user2. If I ssh user2@myhost and screen -r user1/ everything works. As far as I understand su - user2 doesn't change the /dev/pty/*'s ownership and screen does care about that. |
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| 21:23.13 | dabaR | I think there may be a firewall turned on on my computer. I have ran "iptables --flush" and ran "aptitude search fire|grep ^i" and "aptitude search wall|grep ^i" and nothing shows up in those two. Any tips on how to find out what firewall is installed? I think there is a firewall cause gtk-gnutella reports it is firewalled, and I really get no results in gtk-gnutella. |
| 21:23.38 | Rawplayer | karsten: http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=61986 |
| 21:23.50 | Rawplayer | karsten: i was pasting the output from dmesg |
| 21:23.54 | astronut | dabaR: want to clear your rules entirely? |
| 21:24.06 | astronut | dabaR: can I PM you a script to completely clear a firewall? |
| 21:24.13 | astronut | PM = private message |
| 21:24.13 | zrin | Durin: can you give me the file name please, I've installed xfonts-75dpi, but helvetica did not show up |
| 21:24.32 | dabaR | astronut: post it on pastebin, I will read it. |
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| 21:24.37 | karsten | Rawplayer: Nothing like "read seek complete error" or other disk errors? |
| 21:24.39 | astronut | !pastebin |
| 21:24.39 | dpkg | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 21:24.50 | Rawplayer | karsten: no then it would be really screwed |
| 21:24.53 | dabaR | btw, http://pastebin.com/704238 is my iptables -L |
| 21:24.56 | karsten | Rawplayer: From what you're posting, looks like reiserfs ate itself. Haven't dealt with that. |
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| 21:25.13 | Rawplayer | karsten: thats output from dmesg |
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| 21:25.51 | karsten | Rawplayer: I know. I don't know if it's full output or exerpted. Looks like you're pretty effed anyhow. |
| 21:25.56 | astronut | ... i guess it's not announced? |
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| 21:26.07 | Durin | zrin: hm - i installed xfonts-75dpi on sarge and had a line like helvR12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1 in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.dir |
| 21:26.12 | astronut | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2505 |
| 21:26.15 | Rawplayer | karsten: those lines get repeated all the time |
| 21:26.32 | astronut | ....ok... |
| 21:26.34 | Rawplayer | i think i will write email too a debian list |
| 21:26.37 | astronut | what happened to me? |
| 21:26.56 | dabaR | astronut: thanks, I will go through those when I get home, I am on ssh remotely now, so I do not want to break my net connection. |
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| 21:27.12 | astronut | dabaR: if you're not actnig as a NAT gateway, skip the -F -t NAT, the POSTROUTING and the ip_forward one |
| 21:27.17 | astronut | and the mss clamping, that's for my DSL |
| 21:27.27 | astronut | dabaR: it will work ok w/ current connections, i do it via ssh all the time |
| 21:27.33 | astronut | it will hang your ssh for a minute, then restore |
| 21:27.36 | dabaR | astronut: I will read the man page for iptables for each of the commands, thanks. |
| 21:27.43 | zrin | Durin: well, I have this files as well, so the problem lies somwhere else! |
| 21:27.52 | Durin | zrin: u called 'xset fp rehash' after installing the fonts? |
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| 21:27.58 | Alem | olá, sou novo no linux, gostaria de saber se há alguém que possa me ajudar |
| 21:28.00 | astronut | dabaR: -F = flush, the -P sets default policy for each table |
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| 21:28.04 | karsten | !es |
| 21:28.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:28.05 | astronut | so you say "accept all incoming, and outgoing" |
| 21:28.10 | dabaR | astronut: I find my pppoe connection drops every time I -F iptables. |
| 21:28.19 | astronut | oh, you are PPPoE? |
| 21:28.22 | Alem | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.26 | astronut | then do keep the mss line |
| 21:28.28 | astronut | wait, nm |
| 21:28.29 | karsten | !br |
| 21:28.29 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 21:28.30 | astronut | it's only for NAT |
| 21:28.38 | zrin | Durin: I did it right now, but without effect |
| 21:28.46 | karsten | Alem: English here, or /join #debian-br |
| 21:29.01 | astronut | anyway, w/o NAT it's just iptables -F && iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT && iptables -P OUTPUT ACCCEPT |
| 21:29.11 | dabaR | I use ipmasq for NAT. |
| 21:29.17 | dabaR | I think:) |
| 21:29.30 | saanmarcos | how would I remap keys in X? |
| 21:29.51 | astronut | saanmarcos: xmodmap |
| 21:30.04 | marco13185 | no one in #fvwm is helping, so I'll ask here: when I try to fvwm-themes-start, I get this error: Another ICCCM 2.0 compliant WM is running, try -replac. |
| 21:30.06 | saanmarcos | astronut: that does it permanently? |
| 21:30.13 | astronut | saanmarcos: no |
| 21:30.18 | astronut | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 21:30.22 | astronut | or whatever the proper package is |
| 21:30.29 | astronut | !tell Sememmon about keymap |
| 21:30.31 | astronut | oops |
| 21:30.33 | astronut | sorry |
| 21:30.39 | fas3r | i have some problem with nocat i don't understand where i correct this error : http://pastebin.com/704257 please help me .... |
| 21:30.39 | astronut | !tell saanmarcos about keymap |
| 21:30.57 | saanmarcos | ok thans |
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| 21:31.02 | astronut | np |
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| 21:32.16 | Durin | zrin: you use xfs? |
| 21:32.23 | zrin | yes |
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| 21:33.28 | Intoxicator | g'day |
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| 21:34.00 | Durin | zrin: maybe you should verify the xfs config and restart the service before calling the xset fp rehash |
| 21:34.00 | WillyWortel | Is it possible to see which commands where runned 'behind the scenes' when i choose an action in Gnome |
| 21:34.28 | Intoxicator | trying to apt-get install pfqueue ( a postfix queue viewer ) wants to remove the kernel ?? a bit heavy, according me (unstable, kernel 2.4.27) |
| 21:34.30 | zrin | Durin: I'm restarting X (vncserver) - I'll try that, thank you |
| 21:34.44 | fas3r | nobody have any idea ? |
| 21:34.56 | abrotman | dpkg: fix jabber.org |
| 21:35.03 | Durin | zrin: not only X but xfs too (its independent of X) |
| 21:35.21 | marco13185 | where are the gdm settings |
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| 21:35.30 | marco13185 | because I want to change the sessions list |
| 21:35.38 | abrotman | gdm-setup |
| 21:35.56 | marco13185 | abrotman, command not found |
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| 21:36.23 | abrotman | gdmsetup .. whatever it is |
| 21:36.35 | Intoxicator | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.53 | zrin | Durin: this was the solution - thanks a lot! |
| 21:37.02 | Intoxicator | not in user path |
| 21:37.11 | Durin | zrin: np |
| 21:37.12 | marco13185 | abrotman, that doesn't let me edit the sessions |
| 21:37.28 | marco13185 | I want to change the command run for fvwm when I choose that session |
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| 21:38.59 | abrotman | marco13185: oh .. uhm |
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| 21:40.47 | marco13185 | abrotman, :(, I can't find it |
| 21:40.53 | marco13185 | in any file |
| 21:41.13 | abrotman | marco13185: /usr/share/xsessions/ .. i guess |
| 21:41.41 | marco13185 | abrotman, that file is completely empty |
| 21:41.49 | abrotman | marco13185: it's a directory .. not a file |
| 21:41.58 | marco13185 | rofl |
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| 21:43.55 | WillyWortel | Where do i find the commands that where really processed when i do an action in gnome of kde? |
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| 21:44.29 | dbindner_ | Does anyone know of an X11 forwarding issue with AMD64? I just set up an AMD64 system with Sarge. One catch in the install was that my nVidia card wasn't recognized by the nv driver, so I used backports to install xserver-xorg. I don't know if that might be part of the issue, but when I 'ssh -X' to my new machine, there is no listening port and the $DISPLAY variable is not set (despite changing /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restarting th |
| 21:44.55 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: do you have xauth installed? [xbase-clients] |
| 21:45.29 | karsten | dbindner_: Look at your serverside and localside output. Run sshd manually with sshd -Dv remotely if possible. |
| 21:45.34 | karsten | dbindner_: ssh -v locally. |
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| 21:47.31 | dbindner_ | I have xbase-clients installed and xauth seems to work. |
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| 21:48.04 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: and display is set on the local machine? |
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| 21:48.16 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: as well as XAUTHORITY? |
| 21:48.30 | dondelelcaro | (and xauth is on the remote machine as well?) |
| 21:48.53 | saanmarcos | is there a way to fix the bug of I copy text in one app, close it, and then its gone from the buffer? |
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| 21:49.11 | karsten | saanmarcos: Which buffer? |
| 21:49.28 | robin_sz | saanmarcos, thats not a bug as such ... its just The Way It Works |
| 21:49.30 | saanmarcos | the clipboard |
| 21:49.31 | karsten | saanmarcos: X buffer should be persistent. Not sure about gnome/kde's clipboard. |
| 21:49.45 | saanmarcos | its the way it *doesnt work* |
| 21:49.53 | saanmarcos | karsten: GTK for example |
| 21:50.09 | robin_sz | well, thats the way the Gnome clipboard has been as long as I can remember ... |
| 21:50.19 | saanmarcos | well nobody uses plain x apps |
| 21:50.24 | saanmarcos | robin_sz: gnome clipboard' |
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| 21:51.29 | dbindner_ | karsten: 'ssh -Dd' gives me these log lines: |
| 21:51.29 | dbindner_ | Failed to allocate internet-domain X11 display socket. |
| 21:51.29 | dbindner_ | debug1: x11_create_display_inet failed. |
| 21:51.29 | dondelelcaro | a lot of apps don't recognize the X selection particularly well; firefox is guilty of this, FE. |
| 21:51.35 | robin_sz | AIUI there isnt a buffer as such, but the source application doe sthe "copy" thing, so its going to lose it when you close it |
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| 21:51.54 | karsten | dbindner_: Do you have xbase-clients (or similar) installed remotely? |
| 21:52.14 | dbindner_ | dondelelcaro: Both machines have xauth (my local machine is used this way all of the time with other servers I have set up). |
| 21:52.16 | karsten | saanmarcos: NFC, sorry. And I use plain X apps ;-) |
| 21:52.58 | saanmarcos | karsten: right |
| 21:53.15 | robin_sz | saanmarcos, the downside to this approach is that yes, it does lose it when you close it, the plus side is it allows pasting of more complex objects into other apps |
| 21:53.36 | saanmarcos | robin_sz: do you think the user cares about that? |
| 21:53.39 | saanmarcos | the user just needs it to work |
| 21:53.47 | robin_sz | eg in KDE you can paste a spreadsheet in as a spreadsheet |
| 21:53.48 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: right, so it looks like it's the server that is having issues then... it's rather strange that it wouldn't be able to allocate a socket |
| 21:53.55 | robin_sz | in X you just paste the text ... |
| 21:54.05 | dbindner_ | Yes, xbase-clients is installed. I'm going to try apt-get --reinstall. |
| 21:54.08 | saanmarcos | robin_sz: how would I make the gnome clipboard work in debian? |
| 21:54.09 | robin_sz | so yeah, I think the user cares |
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| 21:54.29 | dondelelcaro | (since it'd be sshd that does that allocation) |
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| 21:55.00 | robin_sz | saanmarcos, it does work .. just not as you want it ... it would be a MAJOR structural change to gnome to make it do what you think is the right thing |
| 21:55.02 | dbindner_ | I tried with PrivilegeSeparation on and off. |
| 21:55.29 | saanmarcos | robin_sz: you dont get it, the user does not give a crap about internals |
| 21:55.35 | saanmarcos | The user needs copy paste to work |
| 21:55.40 | robin_sz | it does work |
| 21:55.42 | saanmarcos | even when an app is closed |
| 21:55.51 | saanmarcos | it does not work the way its expected to work |
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| 21:56.11 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: that doesn't influence it; you just need to have X11Forwarding yes; and a reasonable offset in your sshd_config |
| 21:56.20 | robin_sz | well it works the way I expect it to work .. I'll take rich content over persistence anyday |
| 21:56.29 | dbindner_ | Yes. I used the default of 10. |
| 21:56.42 | saanmarcos | robin_sz: eh? i dont care if rich content is lost when closed |
| 21:56.52 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: hrm... what version of sshd is running htere? |
| 21:56.52 | saanmarcos | the issue here is memory |
| 21:57.28 | robin_sz | well, thats the way it is ... |
| 21:57.47 | saanmarcos | robin_sz: that is why linux will never succed in the desktop |
| 21:57.58 | robin_sz | I thought it already had |
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| 21:58.15 | saanmarcos | robin_sz: wrong! |
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| 21:58.37 | dbindner_ | Package ssh, version 1:3.8.1p1-8.sarge.4 |
| 21:58.39 | dondelelcaro | saanmarcos: can you lay off the desktop advocacy trolling please? |
| 21:58.41 | robin_sz | anyway, i aint going to argue .. thats the way gnome does its clipboard .. re-write it if you feel you must |
| 21:58.51 | saanmarcos | !tell dondelelcaro about sunday |
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| 21:59.51 | ivanof | hello |
| 22:00.16 | dbindner_ | I've tried having it listen on ::22 or 0.0.0.0:22 alternatively. Both seem to work fine for ssh but don't affect my issue. |
| 22:00.33 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: nah, it has to listen on ::6010 or similar |
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| 22:00.55 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: which is what it should be doing, but for some reason is failing to do so. Do you have something else bound there? |
| 22:00.59 | dbindner_ | Well, I noticed some old bug reports about ipv6 and X11 forward. In case there was a gregression. |
| 22:01.00 | ivanof | some one can hel me please ? |
| 22:01.17 | karsten | ... you don't tempt the ops by telling them it's trollday. |
| 22:01.18 | dbindner_ | No. I checked netstat right away to see if the port was even opened. Not. |
| 22:01.29 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: right... |
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| 22:01.35 | karsten | !tell ivanof about ask |
| 22:02.07 | dbindner_ | Since I've got backports in my sources.list I could try a newer ssh and compare... |
| 22:02.08 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: well, I don't really understand what is going on there; it seems really clear that it's trying to open the right ports... you may try running strace on sshd with -ff and see exactly what it's trying to open and why it's not able to open the socket. |
| 22:02.16 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: sure, worth a shot. |
| 22:02.30 | ivanof | how can change the resolution of monitor ? |
| 22:02.41 | streuner | !drxx ivanof |
| 22:02.42 | dpkg | ivanof: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:02.43 | dondelelcaro | ivanof: xvidtune or xrandr |
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| 22:03.30 | harry6 | how do i uninstall a software raid1 from the boot disk ? |
| 22:03.41 | sandman | Is there anything I should mount in a chroot aside from mount -t proc none /chroot/etch/proc? |
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| 22:04.53 | sandman | Also: I'd like my system to automatically install updates. Is there anything other than cron-apt that can do this? I only ask because it says that I shouldn't use it that way... |
| 22:05.03 | Darth_Aryl | hi there |
| 22:05.26 | zrin | harry6: there is possibly nothing you need to do |
| 22:05.42 | Darth_Aryl | does anyone knows why there´s no kaffeine on testing? it´s on sarge, and on sid! |
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| 22:06.21 | abrotman | Darth_Aryl: iirc .. xine currently can't be installed or something like that |
| 22:06.46 | Darth_Aryl | abrotman: ouch... i missed xine-ui too, but libxine1 is there |
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| 22:06.52 | harry6 | i want to move from a 40 gb hd to a 80 GB hd, so i copied everything to the new disk and installed grub to it, but i always get a kernel panic if i boot of the new disk |
| 22:07.03 | harry6 | the old 40 gb disk has a raid1 |
| 22:07.08 | Surferdude | error: C compiler cannot create executables <--- Anyone know how to fix that >_> |
| 22:07.20 | mvfeinstein | Can anyone here help me. I installed debian and was using it for a few hours then I had to reboot and now I have an error that says 'ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!' How can I fix this? |
| 22:07.25 | zrin | harry6: how did you "copy everything"? |
| 22:07.41 | dbindner_ | dondelelcaro: I get the same thing with the backport ssh. I did try 'ssh -Dddd' and I get a whole string of 'debug2: bind port 6***: Cannot assign requested address' for approximately 1000 consecutive port numbers. |
| 22:07.43 | Daedalus_ | Surferdude: what program? |
| 22:07.59 | harry6 | cp -ax / /newdisk |
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| 22:08.04 | Surferdude | just installing a PEAR module |
| 22:08.14 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: hrm... what was the error that it got back from the attempt to assign the port? |
| 22:08.26 | Surferdude | it looks like a configure script |
| 22:08.27 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: are you runningn selinux or something on that server? |
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| 22:08.43 | Darth_Aryl | harry6: this is not the right way to do that |
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| 22:09.08 | harry6 | whats the right way to do it? |
| 22:09.15 | Surferdude | I tried upgrading gcc with apt-get upgrade gcc |
| 22:09.17 | Darth_Aryl | well... i use to use tar |
| 22:09.33 | Surferdude | but same problem |
| 22:09.39 | zrin | harry6: the new disk is partitioned? one or more partitions? |
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| 22:09.40 | Darth_Aryl | tar cvpf - <dir> | tar xvpf - -C /<newdir> |
| 22:09.48 | Daedalus_ | Darth_Aryl: tar shouldn't change anything. |
| 22:09.52 | sandman | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty3' - please check. |
| 22:10.01 | jetscreamer | it's just apt-get upgrade, after you do apt-get update |
| 22:10.03 | zrin | Darth_Aryl: cp might be better than tar |
| 22:10.08 | Darth_Aryl | not sure |
| 22:10.10 | jetscreamer | it's apt-get install gccwhatever |
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| 22:10.29 | ivanof | I have installed the debian testing etch at end of installation I have typing startx but the resolution 1600 x 1200 is too higth, from bash how I can change the resolution please (I am new user) |
| 22:10.32 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search gcc |
| 22:10.35 | Daedalus_ | Surferdude: did you install the gcc package? (apt-get install gcc?) |
| 22:10.39 | Surferdude | yes |
| 22:10.45 | jetscreamer | !tell ivanof -about drxx |
| 22:11.01 | zrin | harry6: cp is ok, but you need to skip /proc/* /sys/* and possibly /dev/* |
| 22:11.04 | Surferdude | otherwise i would have gotten a "No valid C Compiler found" |
| 22:11.35 | harry6 | the new disk has only one partiton like the old one |
| 22:11.48 | Surferdude | gcc -v outputs: gcc version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-13) |
| 22:11.49 | dbindner_ | dondelelcaro: I think I know what it is. |
| 22:12.07 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: what? |
| 22:12.17 | zrin | harry: did you activate and format the partition (what fs)? |
| 22:12.33 | dbindner_ | Yes. I don't have lo. It was a 'by hand' install that I had to do because no SATA drivers in the installer. I forgot to put lo in the interfaces file. |
| 22:12.46 | zamaliphe | what is the 16x16 font type ? |
| 22:12.48 | dondelelcaro | oh, yeah... that'd do it. |
| 22:13.02 | harry6 | yep i made a partion and mkfs.reiserfs then mounted it and copied all data over |
| 22:13.07 | Daedalus_ | Surferdude: I'm thinking there's some library package that you need and so the compile is failing to complete. |
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| 22:13.27 | harry6 | i editied the fstab and replaced the md0 with hda1 and deleted the mtab |
| 22:13.35 | zrin | harry6: and old partitions was reiserfs as well? |
| 22:13.41 | zamaliphe | i meen how to get 16x16 Arabic font source code |
| 22:13.43 | harry6 | nope ext3 |
| 22:13.47 | Daedalus_ | Surferdude: Dunno what it would be. Someone else might know, or you might be able to turn up the verbosity of the installer to see what errors it's throwing |
| 22:13.58 | zrin | harry6: do you use initrd? |
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| 22:14.17 | zrin | harry6: did you update fstab? |
| 22:14.22 | zamaliphe | i meen how to get 16x16 Arabic font source code ? |
| 22:14.27 | dondelelcaro | Surferdude: you need to install build-essential |
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| 22:14.41 | harry6 | yep i use initrd |
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| 22:14.47 | jetscreamer | !b-e |
| 22:14.47 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 22:15.28 | liable | harry6: did you edit menu.lst |
| 22:15.30 | dondelelcaro | zamaliphe: it's probably xfonts-intl-arabic; if you want the source code, apt-get source xfonts-intl-arabic |
| 22:15.34 | zrin | harry6: did you update fstab? |
| 22:15.52 | jetscreamer | ah funday |
| 22:16.46 | dbindner_ | dondelelcaro: Yes, I can verify that adding the loopback did in fact fix it. |
| 22:16.54 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: cool |
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| 22:17.23 | zamaliphe | dondelelcaro: you meen that i cane compill the xfonts-intl-arabic using $ make 16x16.font |
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| 22:17.51 | dondelelcaro | zamaliphe: no, I mean that that's the package that has arabic fonts, and may have a 16x16 font |
| 22:17.59 | unstable | !tetrinet |
| 22:17.59 | dpkg | [tetrinet] probably multiplayer tetris get the gtetrinet by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root, then start gtetrinet as non-root and connect to tetrinet.debian.net |
| 22:18.04 | sandman | I'm trying to run screen within a chroot, and it appears that I do not have permissions to the /dev file. |
| 22:18.20 | harry6 | i forgot the menu.lst to change from root=/dev/md0 to /dev/hda1 |
| 22:18.22 | sandman | Should I mount --bind /dev /chroot/etch/dev? |
| 22:18.22 | dbindner_ | dondelelcaro: There must be another way to get the loopback running because my home machine doesn't have in in /etc/network/interfaces and yet it has a loopback? |
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| 22:18.57 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: it's just an auto lo; iface lo inet loopback; |
| 22:19.14 | dondelelcaro | dbindner_: there are other ways of bringing it up, but that's the way all Debian installs bring it up |
| 22:19.18 | zamaliphe | dondelelcaro: im downloading the surce now |
| 22:19.33 | dbindner_ | Ok. Strange that my home machine works then I guess. |
| 22:19.54 | dondelelcaro | it's possible that something else went ifconfig lo up; |
| 22:20.21 | zamaliphe | dondelelcaro: i dont know the defrent of 32x32 and 16x16 but i need 16x16 |
| 22:20.38 | jetscreamer | 16<32 |
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| 22:21.03 | Hakamoto | oi, thats a lot of people |
| 22:21.17 | Think_Different_ | may i ask a question? |
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| 22:21.23 | Hakamoto | hi all |
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| 22:21.32 | dondelelcaro | !tell Think_Different_ -about ask |
| 22:21.32 | Hakamoto | well try them out eh |
| 22:21.33 | raf256 | in debian, how to record vnc? I dont see vncrecord package |
| 22:21.41 | zamaliphe | jetscreamer: lol |
| 22:21.43 | dbindner_ | Since I've got a few things from backports and most things from sarge, is there an easy way to get a list of the backported packages I have installed? |
| 22:21.58 | Think_Different_ | i have a problem with XWindow system |
| 22:22.06 | Think_Different_ | on debian Unstable/testing |
| 22:22.13 | Think_Different_ | its a fresh install |
| 22:22.20 | Shadowcat | Think_Different_: why are you running unstable if you can't fix things like this? |
| 22:22.27 | Shadowcat | oh and why aren't you reading the topic? |
| 22:22.30 | amee2k | does anyone know a useful "RSA vs. DSA" evaluation that actually rates these algorithms? |
| 22:22.39 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: yeesh, relax. |
| 22:22.39 | amee2k | my google fu is reaching a dead end ... |
| 22:22.39 | zamaliphe | jetscreamer: but any things else |
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| 22:22.44 | Blissex | amee2k: ahhahahahahahahahahaha! Very funny. |
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| 22:22.55 | amee2k | Blissex: excuse me? |
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| 22:23.31 | amee2k | what is so inherently funny about that question? |
| 22:23.51 | Blissex | amee2k: the level of delirious naivety. |
| 22:23.56 | Shadowcat | well that got rid of him |
| 22:24.14 | amee2k | o.O ... ? |
| 22:24.20 | Shadowcat | it's common knowledge that XOrg is broken in sid |
| 22:24.22 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: which isn't what we're here for. If you don't feel like helping someone, use /ignore. |
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| 22:24.31 | Hakamoto | Think_Different_: what is the problem? a little more excactly |
| 22:24.33 | Shadowcat | dondelelcaro: I felt like helping him |
| 22:24.44 | Shadowcat | but since he left I assume that he upgraded to XOrg 7 |
| 22:24.52 | Shadowcat | and he got his fix |
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| 22:25.09 | sandman | Is it okay to mount --bind /dev /chroot/etch/dev ? |
| 22:25.11 | jetscreamer | if it's common knowledge, how come i can't tell? |
| 22:25.13 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: I can tell. That sort of behavoir will get you banned from this channel. |
| 22:25.15 | sandman | Or is that dangerous? |
| 22:26.12 | Blissex | amee2k: let me put it this way: if you have to ask, you cannot understand or care about the answer. Both of them are broadly OK. Anything more than that and it becomes insanely difficult. |
| 22:27.57 | amee2k | Blissex: exactly that is my problem. i'm googling for 2h+ now and still cannot see a difference that makes me choose one of them. (which would mainly be in terms of security) |
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| 22:28.05 | Hakamoto | well, if you have time putting this, don't ya have the time putting in 5 more minutes to "evaluate" whether its bad asked or useless (in yar point of view) |
| 22:28.07 | stoned | oh geez my house stinks, I haven't taken out the trash in like 2 weeks |
| 22:28.15 | stoned | ugh, later, Im gonna go to dollar general and buy some stuff |
| 22:28.23 | Blissex | amee2k: security is something else. Flip a coin. |
| 22:28.25 | Shadowcat | amee2k: I think you need to understand quite a bit of math to see a difference |
| 22:28.36 | Shadowcat | and quite a lot about algorithm implementation |
| 22:28.47 | Blissex | Shadowcat: it is not just that, but also that it is pointless. |
| 22:29.02 | Shadowcat | I'm guessing it's a bit like optimizing quicksort |
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| 22:29.41 | amee2k | yea, maybe.... :/ |
| 22:29.45 | Blissex | Shadowcat: it is more like asking: are quicksort or heapsort faster? Well, they are both good. But with even less difference. |
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| 22:30.02 | Shadowcat | blegh |
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| 22:30.19 | Shadowcat | Bubblesort rulez ;) |
| 22:30.22 | Blissex | amee2k: there is a very good paper by Schneier on Attack Trees on couterpane.org |
| 22:30.58 | amee2k | Shadowcat: o.O |
| 22:31.18 | amee2k | Blissex: k, i'll have a look |
| 22:31.24 | Blissex | amee2k: it quit rightly says to worry less about encryption. In part because currently available things are more or less right and little differences dont matter. |
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| 22:33.13 | robin_sz | rather than worry about the algorithm, worry about the implementation. something "ok" thats well supported by security.debian beats somehting theoretically "fantastic" that has unpatched holes |
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| 22:34.14 | amee2k | "The domain name couterpane.org could not be resolved." o.O |
| 22:34.23 | robin_sz | counterpane |
| 22:34.26 | robin_sz | with an n |
| 22:34.47 | amee2k | ah |
| 22:35.07 | Hakamoto | oioi |
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| 22:35.33 | karsten | amee2k: WRT RSA/DSA, a few things that might matter to you. |
| 22:35.40 | Hakamoto | thats the utf-8 iso discussion then *g* |
| 22:35.57 | Hakamoto | @ the currently available things |
| 22:36.07 | karsten | amee2k: RSA was patent encumbered until a couple of years ago, making freely available and usable (as well as generally licensed) implementations harder to find. |
| 22:36.09 | Wildfire | Hello, I'm getting ready to download Debian, burn to DVD(s) and install in a partition on a MacBook Pro Intel Dual Core machine. Which flavor of Debian plays nice with this chip? alpha/, arm/, hppa/, i386/, ia64/, m68k/, mips/, mipsel/, powerpc/, s390/, source/, sparc/ ?? Thanks in advance for any help. |
| 22:36.45 | karsten | amee2k: DSA doesn't support token key use. So if you're using a USB token key (eg: Aladin) to store your key, you must use RSA. |
| 22:37.03 | unstable | Wildfire: those aren't flavors...those are architectures |
| 22:37.05 | karsten | amee2k: I believe DSA is also incompatible with S/MIME encryption formats. |
| 22:37.20 | Wildfire | Which architecture then? |
| 22:37.22 | unstable | Wildfire: powerpc |
| 22:37.27 | unstable | !ppc |
| 22:37.28 | dpkg | from memory, ppc is is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc and/or #debian-ppc |
| 22:38.04 | unstable | Wildfire: /join #debianppc |
| 22:38.04 | karsten | amee2k: ... though I'd need to verify that. From a cryptographic standpoint, the two algorithms are both generally considered secure with no known vulnerabilities, AFAIK. |
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| 22:38.49 | amee2k | well, none atm. from what wikipedia saya, there have been some in the past |
| 22:39.08 | karsten | amee2k: For slightly greater functionality, choose RSA. Personally I've got keys for both. |
| 22:39.13 | Wildfire | I was told the "architecture" I need is x86 family, i686 kernel. Is this the same as PPC? |
| 22:39.27 | unstable | Wildfire: no |
| 22:39.37 | karsten | amee2k: algorithmic flaws or implementation flaw? There's *huge* difference. |
| 22:39.37 | liable | unstable: new mac.. |
| 22:39.43 | abrotman | unstable: what crack are you on? |
| 22:39.44 | Wildfire | Yes. |
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| 22:39.57 | karsten | amee2k: The Cryptography mailing list is probably one of the better places to search. |
| 22:40.08 | abrotman | an MacBook Intel DuoCore is x86 or i386 |
| 22:40.08 | liable | Wildfire: what you have been told would be right. |
| 22:40.22 | amee2k | karsten: well, both implementation and algorthm |
| 22:40.37 | Wildfire | liable: thanks. Then what would that correspond to here: pha/, arm/, hppa/, i386/, ia64/, m68k/, mips/, mipsel/, powerpc/, s390/, source/, sparc/ |
| 22:40.47 | liable | Wildfire: i386 |
| 22:40.48 | amee2k | i'm so low on usable information that both would help |
| 22:40.49 | abrotman | i386 |
| 22:40.52 | abrotman | i just said that |
| 22:40.58 | liable | wah |
| 22:41.15 | Wildfire | liable/abrotman: Thanks much! |
| 22:41.20 | unstable | o, I see...the new mac is x86 and using intel dual core |
| 22:41.23 | unstable | sorry Wildfire |
| 22:41.33 | abrotman | unstable: keep up ... or read the whole question :) |
| 22:41.41 | unstable | I just saw "mac" |
| 22:41.44 | amee2k | even info on the probability of getting across a broken implementation, or that the remote uses one |
| 22:41.53 | Wildfire | unstable: That's okay. I just didn't see what was recommended to me listed as an option. Thanks all. |
| 22:42.14 | unstable | Wildfire: yea, you want *i386* |
| 22:42.15 | karsten | amee2k: What are you looking at doing, BTW? |
| 22:42.18 | unstable | !tell Wildfire about d-i |
| 22:42.27 | unstable | Wildfire: I would grab debian testing if I were you. |
| 22:42.29 | liable | Wildfire: i would think you would want an smp kernel too.. |
| 22:42.38 | karsten | amee2k: Just generatling OpenPGP / OpenSSH keys, or implementing something in your own program? |
| 22:42.43 | abrotman | i'd think he wants the etch installer or <sarge 2.6.15> |
| 22:42.56 | unstable | Wildfire: linux-image-2.6.*-686-smp |
| 22:43.00 | abrotman | just a hunch .. but i'd guess the mobo is ich6/7 based |
| 22:43.24 | amee2k | karsten: no, i'd use a lib if i did. i'm refering to existing implementations |
| 22:43.27 | Wildfire | unstable: thanks. |
| 22:43.43 | karsten | amee2k: Again: what are you looking at doing / understanding? |
| 22:43.59 | karsten | amee2k: Just using ssh / pgp, or adding crypto to another program? |
| 22:44.09 | abrotman | he should be using sarge probably |
| 22:44.11 | abrotman | but oh well |
| 22:44.13 | amee2k | using ssh/pgp |
| 22:44.35 | amee2k | i'm not writing my own apps, and if i did, i'd use an exisiting implementation |
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| 22:45.41 | amee2k | i'm trying to figure out if one of the algorithms is preferable in terms of security in any way |
| 22:46.02 | karsten | amee2k: For PGP: if you plan on encrypting to S/MIME keys, you'll want DSA. For SSH, unless you plan on using a USB key token, either is fine. |
| 22:46.14 | karsten | amee2k: For raw security, not really. |
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| 22:47.45 | karsten | amee2k: Recommended reading: Bruce Schneier's _Applied Crypto_, version 2. Also The Handbook of Applied Cryptography: http://www.infosyssec.net/infosyssec/security/cry2.htm |
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| 22:47.58 | sandman | Would is be a fair idea to mount --bind /sys /chroot/etch/sys? |
| 22:47.59 | maalice | Anybody know how to slow a mouse down? |
| 22:48.06 | maalice | Mine is too fast to be usable, basically. |
| 22:48.20 | maalice | and it's not a matter of acceleration either. |
| 22:48.28 | liable | sandman: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 22:48.45 | amee2k | karsten: that gonna take a while to read. ty |
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| 22:49.03 | karsten | amee2k: Info is hard ;-) |
| 22:49.16 | sandman | liable: Make a chroot as functional as possible |
| 22:49.25 | liable | !be an info barbie |
| 22:49.25 | dpkg | editing config files by hand is so HARD! |
| 22:49.32 | sandman | liable: I want to have a sarge installation, and under is have an etch installation. |
| 22:49.37 | liable | bah, who changed that |
| 22:50.00 | sandman | I will do almost everything from the etch installation. But the sarge installation is there so that it can backup my etch installation passively |
| 22:50.04 | sandman | So if I break anything... |
| 22:50.11 | amee2k | yea ... |
| 22:50.13 | Wildfire | liable: I'm having trouble locating the DVD image for linux-image-2.6.*-686-smp Any ideas?Also why 2.6 over 3.1? |
| 22:50.13 | sandman | brb |
| 22:50.24 | woodland | hi, i am right now in windows since i am having some problem with my gdm display manager. |
| 22:50.36 | liable | Wildfire: in sarge, its kernel-image instead of linux-image |
| 22:50.49 | abrotman | kernel-image is a transitional in all currently |
| 22:50.55 | abrotman | erm .. in sarge it's real |
| 22:50.58 | unstable | Wildfire: Is this a production server or a desktop? |
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| 22:51.33 | woodland | i cant start gdm. there is some error. i tried to switch off laptop with 'poweroff' and when i tried to switch it on again, gdm wont start |
| 22:51.38 | liable | sandman: as far as i am aware, all you want to mount is /proc |
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| 22:52.10 | sandman | liable: Not even always that, correct? |
| 22:52.20 | abrotman | !tell root____2 about root |
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| 22:52.51 | woodland | hi can anybody help me ? |
| 22:53.10 | sandman | Does freeciv freeze up when one tries to start a new game for anyone else? |
| 22:53.13 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 22:53.13 | unstable | woodland: What version of debian? |
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| 22:53.32 | woodland | unstable, i think i have sarge |
| 22:53.57 | unstable | woodland: Did you touch your sources.list file? |
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| 22:54.09 | woodland | unstable, i tried to 'dpkg-reconfigure gdm' but there was some error. |
| 22:54.12 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 22:54.26 | abrotman | if it doesn't restart .. check your X log |
| 22:54.27 | unstable | abrotman: That won't matter probably...sounds like he has an X problem. |
| 22:54.29 | woodland | unstable, no i didnt touch sources.list |
| 22:54.47 | liable | woodland: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:54.50 | abrotman | unstable: if he didn't change anything .. or install any new packages .. he should start there first |
| 22:54.51 | woodland | abrotman, is that a command ? |
| 22:54.56 | abrotman | woodland: yes ... |
| 22:54.59 | unstable | woodland: I would reboot...and do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and when it asks you what driver chose "vesa" then type "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" |
| 22:55.00 | woodland | abrotman, ok |
| 22:55.03 | Ronin | woodland: yes he wants you to run that |
| 22:55.07 | abrotman | i wouldn't choose vesa |
| 22:55.13 | abrotman | try to restart it before you reconfigure it |
| 22:55.16 | woodland | Ronin, thanx |
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| 22:55.40 | unstable | Wildfire: ok...since it's a desktop I would go with testing... go here --> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer and click on the "i386" link...let the installer finish...and when it's done...login as root and type "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686-smp" then reboot into the kernel that is optomized for your architecture. |
| 22:55.46 | abrotman | sometimes ... services just crash |
| 22:56.14 | abrotman | unstable: he should install linux-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 22:56.22 | Wildfire | unstable: It's a laptop but intel chip |
| 22:56.32 | unstable | Wildfire: right |
| 22:56.48 | mvfeinstein | Can anyone here help me. I installed debian and was using it for a few hours then I had to reboot and now I have an error that says 'ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!' How can I fix this? |
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| 22:57.21 | woodland | unstable, i have nvidia, why should i choose vesa ? cant i just do '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' ? |
| 22:57.27 | liable | mvfeinstein: did you upgrade the kernel? |
| 22:57.29 | abrotman | woodland: do the restart first |
| 22:57.34 | unstable | woodland: try that and come back...and tell us if that worked. |
| 22:57.40 | abrotman | woodland: don't mess with your config unless you don't know that it's good |
| 22:57.46 | wmhtet | all my multimedia player has lost the ability to provide video after I have done kernel upgrade (I had problem with nvidia driver and I have to reinstall it again), I can watch youtube.com flash movie in the Opera Browser tho. xine, gxine, totemxine, vlc. noauton, kaffeine, realplayer, they all can't give me vieo but audio only |
| 22:57.46 | unstable | woodland: Do you normally choose "nv" or "nvidia" as the driver? |
| 22:57.50 | abrotman | erm .. know that it's no good |
| 22:57.58 | woodland | unstable, nvidia |
| 22:57.59 | abrotman | erm .. /me stops |
| 22:58.06 | unstable | woodland: That's your problem most likely. |
| 22:58.20 | abrotman | maybe his problem is suspend ... hrm .. never .. couldn't be |
| 22:58.22 | unstable | woodland: Did you try to compile your own proprietary video driver? |
| 22:58.23 | mvfeinstein | liable i ran 'apt-get upgrade' but i didn't notice if it upgraded the kernel or not |
| 22:58.53 | woodland | unstable, i followed dpkg bot instructions for nvidia |
| 22:59.15 | abrotman | woodland: what happens when you restart gdm ? |
| 22:59.17 | unstable | woodland: I would reboot...and do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and when it asks you what driver chose "nv"(NOT nvidia) then type "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" |
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| 22:59.25 | abrotman | unstable: god .. stop saying that |
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| 22:59.29 | abrotman | it worked before |
| 22:59.30 | liable | mvfeinstein: ok, thats prolly not it then (but really, you should pay attention to what apt upgrades..) |
| 22:59.38 | liable | unstable: why reboot? |
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| 22:59.46 | woodland | unstable, ok i will try that , now i am booting into debian. |
| 22:59.53 | unstable | abrotman: He just installed/compiled nvidia proprietary driver...he needs to change his X config...why should I stop saying that? |
| 22:59.54 | woodland | thanx all |
| 23:00.15 | unstable | abrotman: ok...we'll see what woodland says when he comes back. |
| 23:00.21 | mvfeinstein | liable any other ideas? I had the same problem yesterday and gave up and reinstalled |
| 23:00.32 | unstable | liable: He needs to reboot because he is in windows right now. |
| 23:00.35 | unstable | He is dual booting. |
| 23:00.48 | liable | right. |
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| 23:01.23 | abrotman | unstable: it used to work .. unless he's installed a new kernel .. he shouldn't need to change his driver or reconfigure X |
| 23:01.23 | liable | mvfeinstein: yes, pay attention to what apt upgrades! what version of debian? |
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| 23:01.35 | Entheogen | can i run Need for speed game under wine?? |
| 23:01.39 | abrotman | or installed a new X |
| 23:01.39 | unstable | abrotman: It used to work before he rebooted. |
| 23:01.41 | mvfeinstein | liable testing |
| 23:01.46 | abrotman | Entheogen: ask #winehq |
| 23:01.52 | abrotman | unstable: no .. |
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| 23:01.58 | streuner | Entheogen: check out the website about |
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| 23:02.06 | unstable | abrotman: Well we'll see when he comes back. |
| 23:02.12 | abrotman | he won't be back .. you've killed him |
| 23:02.17 | unstable | lol |
| 23:02.19 | abrotman | he's going to float downstream |
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| 23:02.24 | liable | mvfeinstein: do you have more than one kernel? if so, try booting into that one, not the first one. |
| 23:02.27 | hal | Hi all, someone knows if there are new xfce packages on the way ? Need to install a desktop on my notebook and xfce is broken in unstable atm. as far as I can see |
| 23:03.02 | unstable | hal: Wait for the maintainer to finish? |
| 23:03.03 | streuner | Entheogen: http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php |
| 23:03.06 | unstable | hal: Or compile from sources. |
| 23:03.31 | csmall | The Debian installer see's my dvd drive if I use the default 2.4 kernel. If I choose 2.6, it can't use my drive, says no cd rom can be found. what do I need to do to install with 2.6? |
| 23:03.46 | mvfeinstein | liable the boot loader lists two versions of the same kernel and one is taged as recovery mode but they both do the same thing |
| 23:03.50 | hal | unstable: yeah, is there a way to see if it is worth the work and time to grab old packages manually ? |
| 23:04.10 | abrotman | hal: why won't it install? |
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| 23:04.22 | liable | csmall: probably easiest to install with 2.4 and upgrade |
| 23:04.23 | unstable | abrotman: Because the xfce4 maintainer is currently upgrading. |
| 23:04.33 | abrotman | unstable: i didn't ask you |
| 23:04.45 | abrotman | i want his error |
| 23:04.59 | csmall | liable, I tried that. I installed 2.6 and it hangs during boot. says waiting for root filesystem |
| 23:05.00 | unstable | I use unstable and xfce4 also..I know what the error is. |
| 23:05.01 | jrhawks | ola |
| 23:05.02 | ivanof | thank you all for help bye good nigth from italy |
| 23:05.03 | liable | mvfeinstein: you have lilo or grub? |
| 23:05.11 | mvfeinstein | liable grub |
| 23:05.12 | abrotman | unstable: is the missing package in incoming? |
| 23:05.16 | jrhawks | hey a am a braziliam |
| 23:05.19 | abrotman | !br |
| 23:05.19 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:05.40 | jrhawks | when speak portuguese |
| 23:05.47 | Ronin | !pr |
| 23:05.50 | Ronin | or not |
| 23:05.51 | liable | mvfeinstein: try using the installer to chroot in and run update-grub |
| 23:05.54 | abrotman | !pt |
| 23:05.55 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:05.56 | abrotman | Ronin: close |
| 23:06.01 | Ronin | ahh |
| 23:06.06 | unstable | http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org |
| 23:06.13 | jrhawks | #debian-br |
| 23:06.23 | jrhawks | hey mens |
| 23:06.24 | abrotman | jrhawks: /join #debian-br |
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| 23:06.34 | jrhawks | a need help |
| 23:06.37 | Steakk | anyone here familiar with alsa? |
| 23:06.38 | abrotman | unstable: that doesn't tell me the error either |
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| 23:06.47 | jrhawks | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.54 | abrotman | jrhawks: /join #debian-br |
| 23:06.55 | Ronin | jrhawks: /join #debian-br |
| 23:06.56 | jrhawks | a need help |
| 23:07.06 | abrotman | where's agney when you need him :) |
| 23:07.11 | jrhawks | thamks man |
| 23:07.18 | jrhawks | a go atempt |
| 23:07.28 | jrhawks | my english is poor |
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| 23:08.02 | hal | ah, install works fine if I don't install the xfce and xfwm-themes packages, that should be fine for me... |
| 23:08.04 | abrotman | hrm .. he didnt' make it in there |
| 23:08.20 | mvfeinstein | liable: not sure how to do that, where can i find directions? Or can I just do it from the bash shell I end up with when it can't mount root? |
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| 23:08.45 | liable | csmall: hrm, google your controller and see if it changes /dev between a 2.6 and 2.4 kernel (ie from sda to hda or vice versa) |
| 23:08.57 | abrotman | most do |
| 23:08.59 | liable | mvfeinstein: the etch installer has a recue option |
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| 23:09.31 | Zvpun | what's the utmp group for? |
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| 23:09.41 | csmall | liable, my hard disk reports as sda under 2.6 in other dists. I am not sure what the dvd drive reports as |
| 23:09.44 | Steakk | I have 2 sound cards in my debian box...trying to get alsa to work on both cards...alsa modules are there for both cards, and I can have either one of them going at once...but, cant get alsa to get BOTH going..(/proc/asound/cards will only show 1 card, rather than 2 that i have installed)...any ideas? |
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| 23:09.55 | abrotman | liable: still smell like goat eh ? |
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| 23:10.01 | liable | csmall: whats in fstab? |
| 23:10.21 | siimo | hi can anyone tell me how to get xscreensaver start by default in etch gnome? every time i reboot and open screensaver settings it says its not launched on display 0,0 |
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| 23:10.22 | liable | abrotman: why did i know that a comment like that was coming? your to predictable.. |
| 23:10.33 | abrotman | you're |
| 23:10.38 | hal | abrotman: a cat iron pan ? |
| 23:10.43 | liable | hah, i knew that was coming too! :P |
| 23:10.52 | csmall | liable not sure, the debian install is sitting with 2.4. I am not sure what it would say if 2.6 worked. I do know that it all works fine with 2.6 kernels in many other dists |
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| 23:11.06 | Zvpun | siimo: try system->settings->screensaver |
| 23:11.08 | abrotman | hal: i said cast iron |
| 23:11.16 | liable | csmall: look in fstab and tell what / is mounted on |
| 23:11.17 | hal | yeah, what is this ? |
| 23:11.19 | abrotman | hal: so i can make my own blackened steaks ;) |
| 23:11.28 | abrotman | hal: big black pans |
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| 23:11.39 | abrotman | hal: hrm .. i have no idea how to translate into german |
| 23:11.46 | siimo | Zvpun, yeah when i launch that it says its not started and do i want to start it now |
| 23:12.01 | abrotman | hal: http://whatscookingamerica.net/Information/CastIronPans.htm ... see the big black ones .. that's what i mean |
| 23:12.12 | hal | abrotman: mhm, a pan out of iron ? |
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| 23:12.31 | abrotman | hal: it's a bit more .. but yeah .. pretty much |
| 23:12.48 | Zvpun | siimo: than I dont know |
| 23:12.51 | hal | no x atm ;) |
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| 23:14.57 | smallco | liable, in 2.4 they report as hd |
| 23:15.07 | peterS | hal: cast iron is iron which has been shaped by pouring it into a mold. it has a black, rough finish, and it somewhat brittle. |
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| 23:15.22 | liable | smallco: ok, edit fstab and menu.lst to sda then, and try rebooting into 2.6 |
| 23:15.23 | atrus | not sure if this might be a packaging issue, but my gnome apps seem to operate incorrectly wrt fontconfig. "xterm -fa Monospace" uses Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, as /etc/fonts/fonts.conf says, but gnome apps are using Nimbus Mono L. a similar problem with a different incorrect font affects Sans and Serif. |
| 23:15.23 | csmall | liable, hdb3 is what / reports |
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| 23:15.30 | ricochet | help! I just rebooted my machine (forgot about xorg problem) so when I 'startx' the screen goes black and keyboard doesnt work, no ctrlaltbackspace, no ctrlaltdel, no ctrlaltFunc.... I can't really debug anything if it just locks up my machine.. |
| 23:15.32 | csmall | ok |
| 23:15.35 | phillijw | can someone tell me how I know what version of debian I am currently running (stable, testing, unstable..) |
| 23:15.43 | killown | because this error? xfce4-panel: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string |
| 23:15.47 | peterS | phillijw: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:15.49 | Zvpun | what permissions does your /var/run/screen have? |
| 23:15.51 | liable | csmall: warning, this will make 2.4 unbootable :) |
| 23:16.12 | csmall | liable, sda? or sdb? it reports / on hdb3 |
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| 23:16.15 | peterS | phillijw: though testing and unstable will both say 'testing/unstable' |
| 23:16.22 | liable | csmall: sdb |
| 23:16.28 | phillijw | peterS, oh... well then that doesnt help me a lot :P |
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| 23:16.46 | peterS | phillijw: so, 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' |
| 23:16.47 | phillijw | peterS, do you think there have been 250 package upgrades within the last month or three? |
| 23:16.57 | hal | peterS: Thanks, this should be enought until x is running, I have a normal icon pan and love it ;) |
| 23:17.02 | peterS | phillijw: that will show lines that include the word 'testing' or 'etch' or 'unstable' or 'sid' |
| 23:17.18 | phillijw | peterS, i may have edited my sources.list for some reason .. .it says testing but I may have done some stuff no unstable to get stuff working.. i dont remember |
| 23:17.46 | mvfeinstein | liable I have booted into the resuce option but don't know what to do now. |
| 23:18.02 | peterS | phillijw: sometimes you can tell with 'dpkg -l libc6' but right now testing and unstable have the same version of that, so that's not too much help |
| 23:18.11 | phillijw | ok |
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| 23:18.24 | jonas23 | does anyone know a good way to remove all symlinks in a hierarchy |
| 23:18.53 | peterS | jonas23: find . -type l -print0 | xargs -0 rm |
| 23:18.54 | unstable | jonas23: What are you trying to do? |
| 23:18.57 | peterS | ...is how I'd do it |
| 23:18.59 | liable | mvfeinstein: grub-install /dev/hda (substitute hda with whatever your / is) |
| 23:19.46 | jonas23 | peterS, that looks good to me |
| 23:20.02 | jonas23 | trying to take one machines data and put it on another one |
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| 23:20.21 | unstable | jonas23: So why would you want to remove symlinks? |
| 23:20.23 | jonas23 | but the symlinks there (from years of use) are making scp act stupid and i'd just as well nuke them all since none of them are important |
| 23:20.33 | jonas23 | and.. i dunno, i don't feel like doing it a smarter way |
| 23:20.40 | unstable | jonas23: many symlinks are important |
| 23:20.40 | peterS | that's a smart enough way |
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| 23:20.50 | jonas23 | unstable, not when they're in my data |
| 23:20.51 | peterS | I mean, if you _know_ they are not useful |
| 23:21.03 | mvfeinstein | liable I get an error 'The rescue operation "grub-reinstall" failed with exit code 20' |
| 23:21.04 | jonas23 | i fond one that was particuarly damnig |
| 23:21.24 | pyroplasm | jonas23: another way: find . -type l -exec unlink '{}' ';' |
| 23:21.24 | jonas23 | it circularly linked my music directory (gigs and gigs of flac files there :( |
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| 23:22.05 | jonas23 | pyroplasm, aah, i like this one :) |
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| 23:22.47 | Zvpun | is there a document that explains the groups used on a Debian system? What is utmp for? Is it save to add users to utmp for screen multiuser use. |
| 23:23.16 | mirak | I built a custom kernel with fglrx proprietary driver. I want to kjnow if dist-upgrades will break the custom kernel plus the fglrx built I did or not |
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| 23:24.18 | pyroplasm | Zvpun: reading the utmp manpage (man -k utmp) and find (find / -group utmp) might give you an idea |
| 23:24.39 | Zvpun | pyroplasm: the find actually is runing :-) |
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| 23:24.46 | unstable | mirak: no, I don't believe dist-upgrade will not break your custom kernel or having 3d accel work. |
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| 23:25.15 | unstable | woodland: How did it work out? |
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| 23:28.09 | liable | mvfeinstein: meh, i cant find what that exit code means.. |
| 23:28.17 | abrotman | unstable: that well apparently |
| 23:28.38 | unstable | abrotman: He was in xchat |
| 23:28.45 | unstable | abrotman: I can only assume my advice was right. |
| 23:28.48 | jonas23 | oh abrotman i think i was talking to you |
| 23:28.54 | jonas23 | i figured out my (totally stupid) problem |
| 23:29.11 | abrotman | unstable: right .. obviously you were right .. duh |
| 23:29.14 | abrotman | whatever |
| 23:29.15 | jonas23 | voltage setting on the mobo was making something (controller? ram?) go haywire.. |
| 23:29.15 | mvfeinstein | liable do you know of anything else I can try to get this working? |
| 23:29.22 | jonas23 | so nothing was working in the first place even though not much complained |
| 23:29.30 | jonas23 | but grub --recheck noticed that not all was well |
| 23:29.31 | abrotman | jonas23: eh ? |
| 23:29.33 | jonas23 | that's why it was failing |
| 23:29.47 | gpm | anyone know why grip only rips tracks at like 1.7x? it's a good drive and the CDs not in terribly bad shape...dma is enabled...anything else i can do? |
| 23:29.53 | Hakamoto | mirak: well if you d-u to xorg 7.* from 6.9* it will, otherwise it shouldn't |
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| 23:30.06 | abrotman | unstable: btw .. there's an xchat for win32 .... |
| 23:30.24 | Hakamoto | ah, mirak, more competent peolpe ansered, i hung |
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| 23:30.53 | liable | mvfeinstein: look in /var/log/dpkg.log and see if you upgraded udev |
| 23:31.18 | abrotman | woodland: do you have X yet? |
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| 23:31.35 | abrotman | woodland: if you don't .. apt-get install irssi-text .. and IRC from a text login |
| 23:31.48 | woodland | abrotman, hi |
| 23:31.58 | woodland | no i am back in windows |
| 23:32.13 | abrotman | woodland: ok .. can you install irssi-text in linux .. and irc from there? |
| 23:32.18 | woodland | abrotman, ok |
| 23:32.23 | abrotman | good deal |
| 23:32.38 | unstable | WoodsDog: What did you try and type? |
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| 23:33.18 | HoNgOuRu | how can I enable this on my kernel "ISSE Support" |
| 23:33.19 | HoNgOuRu | ??? |
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| 23:33.34 | liable | b.d.o is sloooowww |
| 23:33.45 | HoNgOuRu | help |
| 23:33.48 | HoNgOuRu | how can I enable this on my kernel "ISSE Support" |
| 23:34.03 | unstable | !tell HoNgOuRu about repeat |
| 23:34.06 | Hakamoto | HoNgOuRu: shut up and paly nicely |
| 23:34.09 | Hakamoto | play |
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| 23:35.34 | Hakamoto | if someone can help fi then someone gonna help ya ... if you play nicely |
| 23:35.48 | hal | going to bed, sleep well @all |
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| 23:36.33 | mvfeinstein | liable there is nothing in the var folder |
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| 23:37.04 | andrewy | i have a debian installation running inside of Xen, which i installed using debootstrap. for some reason it's not using /etc/shadow to store the password hashes. what do i change so that it will use /etc/shadow ? |
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| 23:37.10 | liable | mvfeinstein: huh? |
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| 23:38.05 | liable | mvfeinstein: did you choose the rescue mode with the installer?? |
| 23:38.26 | mvfeinstein | liable i booted the pc from the etch cd went into resuce mode then executed a shell, checked to make sure that hda1 was mounted went into the var folder and there is nothing in there |
| 23:39.13 | liable | mvfeinstein: can you see in your /home dir? |
| 23:39.49 | mirak | it would be nice that gnome mounts samba shares like mac OS X does with automount |
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| 23:39.56 | mirak | gnomevfs just suck |
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| 23:41.09 | liable | woodland: /exit and change to your user |
| 23:41.09 | mvfeinstein | liable it says there is nothing on there... when i check whats mounted i get '/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)' |
| 23:41.16 | vlady | holas |
| 23:41.25 | vlady | tengo una pregunta |
| 23:41.31 | abrotman | woodland: login as a regular user to talk in here |
| 23:41.34 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:41.34 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:41.34 | vlady | como hago par actualizar un paquete |
| 23:41.44 | abrotman | oh yes .. severe heartburn on its way! |
| 23:41.45 | vlady | sorry |
| 23:42.51 | liable | mvfeinstein: strange.. |
| 23:43.24 | mvfeinstein | liable so do you think this is fixable or do I get to reinstall again? |
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| 23:43.41 | liable | mvfeinstein: i have no idea whats going on. |
| 23:44.00 | liable | mvfeinstein: do you have anything in /boot? |
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| 23:44.18 | liable | mvfeinstein: is your install all on one partition? |
| 23:44.34 | mvfeinstein | liable yes there is some stuff in boot |
| 23:44.34 | liable | mvfeinstein: how are you checking in the directories? |
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| 23:45.21 | unity | hello, can someone help me put an ext2 partition on a disk? parted gives me this when i try to print the disk geometry: Error: Unable to open /dev/hdc - unrecognised disk label. |
| 23:45.48 | hobophobe | I'm wanting to get the ATI drivers/fglrx running on here, but since I'm using the 2.6 kernel which uses gcc 4.0 it seems I can't compile the kernel module? Is there a good tutorial to follow or somewhere I should look? |
| 23:45.59 | blondie | unity: have you tried fdisk? |
| 23:46.22 | tam | why is it in debian when i burn an iso i get 8x on my .isos but when i burn a data dvd i hardly see over 4x ? |
| 23:46.26 | tam | im using k3b |
| 23:46.32 | mvfeinstein | liable good call I did have it auto partition the system, I am just using cd and ls to go through the directories |
| 23:46.32 | liable | hobophobe: from ati or debian? |
| 23:46.44 | abrotman | hobophobe: ask #ati ? |
| 23:46.48 | abrotman | !ati |
| 23:46.48 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt |
| 23:46.58 | tux | i have problem with dates |
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| 23:46.59 | tux | crons are executed with a difference of +1 hour from the system's date, if i set a cron to start at 00:00, it'll start at 01:00, samething with php, it's date() function allways return a +1h différence with date command |
| 23:47.01 | liable | mvfeinstein: so its all on one? or seperate for home etc? |
| 23:47.36 | blondie | tux: are you caught in a temporal anomaly? |
| 23:47.37 | unity | blondie: fdisk -l doesn't show anything for /dev/hdc. what could that mean? i know the disk is plugged in, i even listed the partitions on it before |
| 23:47.40 | marco13185 | SCENSTAR HAS DICK SIZE ISSUES!!!!! |
| 23:47.55 | abrotman | marco13185: wrong channel |
| 23:47.56 | blondie | unity: fdisk /dev/hdc |
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| 23:48.02 | marco13185 | abrotman, ya, I know |
| 23:48.03 | marco13185 | :( |
| 23:48.06 | mvfeinstein | liable seperate but I cant figure out how to mount the other paritions |
| 23:48.08 | blondie | marco13185: severe failure |
| 23:48.15 | unity | blondie: Unable to read /dev/hdc |
| 23:48.27 | liable | mvfeinstein: nevermind, but is /var seperate? |
| 23:48.27 | blondie | dmesg | grep hdc |
| 23:48.32 | blondie | does that show stuff about it? |
| 23:48.33 | unity | blondie: perhaps the disk is fried? it did give me a warning as i turned on the computer |
| 23:48.41 | blondie | oh, what warning? |
| 23:48.44 | tux | blondie, yes i dont see where is the problem |
| 23:48.54 | blondie | tux: that was a joke :( |
| 23:48.55 | liable | mvfeinstein: look in fstab |
| 23:49.15 | mvfeinstein | liable no vi or print how do I open a text file? |
| 23:49.23 | liable | mvfeinstein: cat |
| 23:49.53 | liable | mvfeinstein: if you are chrooted, you should have all your apps at your disposal |
| 23:49.58 | tux | lol |
| 23:50.02 | mvfeinstein | liable var is on a seperate partitions |
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| 23:50.37 | tux | blondie, am so tired, working for more than 16hours, i cant understand jokes now :) |
| 23:50.45 | blondie | aww |
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| 23:50.51 | cshaman | Hello. |
| 23:50.53 | Rawplayer | they invented sleep for that |
| 23:51.00 | liable | mvfeinstein: mount /dev/hdafoo /var |
| 23:51.01 | cshaman | Is there a command to list all the daemons running on my box? |
| 23:51.02 | mvfeinstein | ok I have var mounted |
| 23:51.14 | Zvpun | tux: maybe you should go to sleep? |
| 23:51.14 | blondie | ps -ef |
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| 23:51.31 | blondie | ho ho |
| 23:51.34 | liable | mvfeinstein: now look at your dpkg log and see what the hell was installed that might have fux0red your system |
| 23:52.34 | mvfeinstein | liable there is a ton of stuff in there but earlier you mentioned udev and i have severl references to that |
| 23:53.03 | cshaman | I read this article about a guy who put his entire home directory into a cvs repository. |
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| 23:53.29 | cshaman | On one hand, I'm amazed by this, but on the other hand it doesn't seem very practical for most users. |
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| 23:54.28 | zrin | cshaman: what about a file system with versioning? |
| 23:54.43 | cshaman | zrin: versioning? |
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| 23:55.14 | blondie | chinchilla |
| 23:55.23 | zrin | cshaman: when it runs out of space, it deletes the olderst version |
| 23:55.50 | zrin | cshaman: so you can have a number of versions of a file |
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| 23:56.09 | cshaman | zrin: That's pretty neat. Is that a feature of CVS? |
| 23:56.13 | ricochet | note for whoever cares: nvidia's X config helper incorrectly rebuilds the config with "nvidia" drivers for all graphics cards that appear in xorg.conf. |
| 23:56.18 | cshaman | I've never used CVS before. |
| 23:56.42 | blondie | what do you think CVS is for. its a version control system |
| 23:56.47 | zrin | cshaman: not really, you have to control cvs manually |
| 23:56.52 | unity_ | blondie: sorry my modem died for a while, during boot-up, i get a warning something about a S.M.A.R.T. and to backup my data immediately and dmesg | grep hdc gives me a LOT of lines of "end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 104 Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 13" |
| 23:57.19 | blondie | unity_: looks like hdc is b0rked |
| 23:57.19 | cshaman | blondie: As I stated, I've never used CVS before. |
| 23:57.36 | simonrvn | looks like you should follow its advice ... |
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| 23:58.25 | zrin | cshaman: are you looking for a version control system? |
| 23:59.07 | cshaman | zrin: I thought about putting my home directory in CVS to try what this guy in this article did. |
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| 23:59.14 | GyrosGeier | hi |
| 23:59.17 | unity_ | blondie: so warranty time, right? i can't like fix it through linux, or make a partition that avoids the bad sectors, right? |
| 23:59.28 | cshaman | If he deleted a file, he could always get the older file from CVS |
| 23:59.37 | blondie | yes, and no you can't |
| 23:59.37 | zrin | cshaman: ic ... first make a backup :) |
| 23:59.50 | unity_ | ok thanks blondie later |
