| 00:00.01 | evaded | ml2: I not use sudo :-/ |
| 00:00.03 | stew | _wendell: you ran --zero-superblock /dev/sda for sda-sdd? |
| 00:00.12 | _wendell | stew: Correct. |
| 00:00.21 | jetscreamer | and it worked in k3b before, it seems to have gotten stuck on the rw speed |
| 00:00.42 | jetscreamer | 4x |
| 00:00.43 | _wendell | stew: Because according to dpkg-reconfigure, this was supposed to correct my auto-assemble woes |
| 00:00.54 | ml2 | evaded: did you use su before ssh? |
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| 00:01.33 | evaded | ml2: euh, that's been possible. :-/ I try to play tvtime on my P1 133Mhz :-) |
| 00:01.56 | evaded | ml2: Fluxbox are running, great great, i love you guys :-) |
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| 00:02.05 | evaded | !beer |
| 00:02.05 | dpkg | methinks beer is liquid gold mate |
| 00:02.21 | ml2 | evaded: there is a problem with x authentication when using su |
| 00:02.39 | ml2 | ssh should work without su |
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| 00:02.59 | _wendell | So I take it that no one has any ideas... |
| 00:03.40 | unfo | davidh: cat < sda | file - |
| 00:03.43 | unfo | oops, no |
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| 00:03.45 | unfo | davidh: cat < sda1 | file - |
| 00:03.57 | evaded | ml2: Now i get, 'cannot open display', I think i have mess up the DISPLAY variable :-/ I no more remember wich number i need to put |
| 00:03.59 | stoned | _wendell, I have tons of ideas |
| 00:04.09 | lupe | hi sorry to interrupt your conversation, but I need some help about a bash command. |
| 00:04.11 | unfo | davidh: does it do anything at all? |
| 00:04.15 | DarkHack | jesus |
| 00:04.18 | stoned | _wendell, I can't remember them later most of the time |
| 00:04.21 | _wendell | stoned: About restoring a superblock to a RAID-5 array that I can't mount? Thanks. |
| 00:04.26 | stoned | !d-i DarkHack |
| 00:04.26 | dpkg | DarkHack, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:04.32 | unfo | lupe: interrupting is a way of life on IRC, not a problem. :) |
| 00:04.32 | davidh | unfo: see flood |
| 00:04.49 | unfo | davidh: ls sd* |
| 00:04.58 | quitte | can i use netcat as a telnet replacement so i don't have to run as much? |
| 00:05.06 | DarkHack | ok |
| 00:05.06 | lupe | :-) |
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| 00:05.41 | _wendell | So if I re-create the array using mdadm --create, I assume that destroys anything that might be on the disks? |
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| 00:05.55 | stoned | _wendell, I don't know about this sorry |
| 00:06.07 | unfo | davidh: cat < sda | file - |
| 00:06.12 | unfo | davidh: cat < sdb | file - |
| 00:06.12 | lupe | I've read in ibm linux docs some time ago about a command that would retrieve the letters from left to right or vice-versa of some word. |
| 00:06.16 | unfo | davidh: cat < sdc | file - |
| 00:06.18 | unfo | davidh: cat < sdd | file - |
| 00:06.19 | unfo | davidh: cat < sde | file - |
| 00:06.21 | unfo | davidh: cat < sde1 | file - |
| 00:06.22 | lupe | It was not sed, or awk |
| 00:06.29 | stoned | unfo, wtf |
| 00:06.31 | unfo | all, sorry to flood. |
| 00:06.33 | ml2 | _wendell: Could be and couldn't be |
| 00:06.53 | _wendell | ml2: Thanks, that helps a lot... Sigh. |
| 00:06.54 | ml2 | it depends |
| 00:06.59 | _wendell | ml2: On what? |
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| 00:07.07 | lupe | but don't recall the name of it |
| 00:07.09 | _wendell | ml2: Man, I'm sorry if I'm acting crabby, but this is -really- frustrating. |
| 00:07.10 | ml2 | if you get it right the first time, it should work |
| 00:07.15 | davidh | unfo: cat < sdb | file - get stucked. I cantrol c |
| 00:07.17 | _wendell | ml2: Get -what- right? |
| 00:07.17 | unfo | lupe: you mean the rev command? try this: rev <<<backwards |
| 00:07.19 | ml2 | if not, it destroys anything automatically |
| 00:07.22 | unfo | davidh: ok |
| 00:07.38 | _wendell | ml2: What does "get it right" mean in this context? |
| 00:07.39 | CaT[tm] | or alternatively file -s /dev/sdxy |
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| 00:07.54 | evaded | ml2: I get an error code 'E233: cannot open display'. It's sad, it's on another location i need to walk :-/ |
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| 00:08.08 | unfo | CaT[tm]: cool. |
| 00:08.14 | ml2 | _wendell: if you recreate the array, either it works immediately or everything is irreperabily destroyed |
| 00:08.24 | ggeecko | anyone here tried xen |
| 00:08.29 | CaT[tm] | unfo: reading manpages has its benefits. |
| 00:08.36 | unfo | :) |
| 00:08.43 | davidh | unfo: see flood |
| 00:08.48 | _wendell | ml2: Okay, but WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS for recreating it? |
| 00:08.52 | lupe | unfo: not rev. suppose word banana. IIf I choose the firs occurence of a, I'd get b. If I'd choose the second, I'd get ban |
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| 00:08.54 | _wendell | ml2: In which the data is not destroyed? |
| 00:09.26 | ml2 | _wendell: everything has to be done right, there mustn't be any mistake |
| 00:09.28 | davidh | unfo: I have to go now. See you next time. Tx |
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| 00:09.35 | unfo | davidh: good luck. |
| 00:09.35 | _wendell | ml2: Jesus christ. |
| 00:09.44 | stoned | do not take the lords name in vein |
| 00:09.46 | stoned | :( |
| 00:09.53 | stoned | not vein |
| 00:09.57 | unfo | davidh: by the way, if you have KDE installed, it should happen automatically when you plug it in. |
| 00:09.58 | DarkHack | ... |
| 00:10.01 | stoned | lol |
| 00:10.04 | stoned | j/k |
| 00:10.30 | unfo | oh well, he left. |
| 00:10.43 | stoned | Im running out of stash man |
| 00:10.58 | stoned | DarkHack, you doing alright with the debian installer there? |
| 00:11.05 | IceWolf0 | if i reinstall debian will it erase all the data on the partition or jus the system files? |
| 00:11.23 | unix_infidel | depends on how you install it. |
| 00:11.29 | stoned | IceTox, during the reinstall you can chose not to reformat the FS |
| 00:11.43 | stoned | IceWolf0, ^^ |
| 00:12.09 | lupe | unfo: did you see my post? |
| 00:12.21 | unfo | lupe: no |
| 00:12.27 | lupe | unfo: not rev. suppose word banana. IIf I choose the firs occurence of a, I'd get b. If I'd choose the second, I'd get ban |
| 00:12.55 | lupe | and so on. |
| 00:12.56 | unfo | lupe: i don't know. it can be done with a perl one-liner though. ask in #perl. |
| 00:12.56 | ml2 | _wendell: Anyway, I could be completely wrong. Do you know, how you set up your raid before? |
| 00:13.00 | simmerz | if a fetchmail daemon isn't running and fetchmail isnt in ps and i can't find it /etc/cron*, where should i look for a script/process running fetchmail -a --smtpname that is failing? |
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| 00:13.47 | _wendell | ml2: Thanks for your efforts, man... But "everything has to be done right, there mustn't be any mistake" is so wishy-washy that I don't feel like I can trust your advice on this matter. |
| 00:13.49 | beardy | simmerz: lsof /pathtobin/fetchmail ? |
| 00:13.51 | IceWolf0 | ok :) |
| 00:14.04 | beardy | !wiui |
| 00:14.09 | lupe | no, it was not perl, but thank you anyway |
| 00:14.13 | IceWolf0 | i can skip the whole reinstalling of grub cuz i dont get it. |
| 00:14.47 | simmerz | beardy: dont have lsof. what package is it in? |
| 00:15.23 | simmerz | got it |
| 00:15.30 | ml2 | _wendell: I'm looking and reading about it |
| 00:15.45 | ml2 | _wendell: btw, where was that howto from? do you have got any url? |
| 00:15.52 | _wendell | ml2: What howto? |
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| 00:16.02 | _wendell | ml2: The one I used to create the array? I just used man pages |
| 00:17.17 | simmerz | beardy: shows up nothing |
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| 00:17.22 | Demio | hello |
| 00:17.28 | unfo | _wendell: there are paid consultants who can back up your data and then do it for you, though I am not one. |
| 00:17.34 | evaded | ml2: On some other computer it work the ssh -X. But not on that one where it's needed :-/ Ok i compare the config or so |
| 00:17.40 | Demio | what should i do to get the latest apts? |
| 00:17.47 | Demio | because most that I get are outdated |
| 00:17.52 | Demio | which are good sources lists |
| 00:17.57 | stew | evaded: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 00:18.07 | Azar | o/t good article: The quest for ring 0 http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/402 |
| 00:18.08 | ml2 | _wendell: do you still have got your raidtab? |
| 00:18.14 | _wendell | unfo: Yeah. I'm sure. The thing is, they shouldn't write that you should zero your superblock in the goddamn dpkg-reconfigure for mdadm without some sort of warning. |
| 00:18.31 | _wendell | ml2: What is that? If it's a file, it's apparently not on the rdive. |
| 00:18.46 | beardy | simmerz: Where is it said that the process is failing, in the log? If it's only one line, please paste it here. |
| 00:18.55 | evaded | stew: hhhm, really thanks man, i think it's that the trouble about xauth, because one these wo not work. I get that error ;-) i look to solve it ;-) |
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| 00:19.23 | somedude | does debian work on amd decently |
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| 00:19.28 | simmerz | beardy: getting this as the subject: /usr/bin/fetchmail -a --smtpname=tom@initforthe.com, and this as the content of the error email: fetchmail: no mailservers have been specified. |
| 00:19.30 | stew | somedude: yes |
| 00:19.33 | beardy | somedude: Of course. |
| 00:19.41 | stew | somedude: in fact i'd say better than that evn |
| 00:19.43 | unfo | _wendell: I was not following the whole conversation, but if there is a bug then send an email to submit@bugs.debian.org and it will be taken care of. |
| 00:19.52 | _wendell | unfo: Okay. |
| 00:19.53 | ml2 | _wendell: /etc/raidtab |
| 00:19.58 | somedude | ive been using fedora but fc5 wont upgrade and no one can really give me any solution |
| 00:20.07 | _wendell | ml2: No such file exists |
| 00:20.19 | lupe | bye |
| 00:20.38 | somedude | i mean will it work "out of the box" |
| 00:20.49 | beardy | simmerz: It looks like a cronjob that is not working as it should. Check your crontab, or the crontab of the user that is getting the mail. |
| 00:20.56 | unfo | _wendell: as the first line of your email, write either Package: mdadm or else Package: unknown |
| 00:21.01 | _wendell | ok |
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| 00:21.14 | mulligan | my xdm never executes any Xsession scripts. neither /etc/X11/Xsession nor /etc/X11/Xsession is this a known bug or something wrong with my system? |
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| 00:21.34 | mulligan | startx, xinit work fine but i can't login via xdm |
| 00:21.36 | unfo | _wendell: it depends if you're sure it's a bug in mdadm. If mdadm, as the second line, put Version: then the version number. |
| 00:21.39 | simmerz | beardy: local crontabs are ~/.crontab? |
| 00:21.43 | simmerz | oops. no they're not |
| 00:21.45 | simmerz | just realised |
| 00:21.47 | abrotman | somedude: amd64? or just regular k7? |
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| 00:22.09 | simmerz | beardy: that was the problem. thanks! couldn't think! too tired |
| 00:22.15 | qzio | can anyone recommend a udp proxy for debian? |
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| 00:22.20 | qzio | preferable in apt |
| 00:22.31 | abrotman | apt-cache search udp proxy ? |
| 00:23.00 | qzio | yeah, gave me nothing.. :( |
| 00:23.08 | quitte_ | ribnitz_: took the ram out just to make sure - no difference |
| 00:23.14 | beardy | simmerz: as you probably realised, no, (I'm not sure where they are actually stored, but /usr/lib/cron/somewhere perhaps) 'crontab -l' anyway. |
| 00:23.24 | beardy | simmerz: You're welcome :) |
| 00:23.24 | qzio | abrotman: or is "stone" the way to go? |
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| 00:23.35 | abrotman | i have no idea what stone is |
| 00:23.37 | simmerz | right, now thats solved, im off to bed! finally |
| 00:23.41 | abrotman | i know what stoned is |
| 00:23.43 | abrotman | not stone |
| 00:23.50 | Kernel-Kris | if i want a ntpdate to run upon every reboot what rc folders do i need to put it in ...or is there an easier way |
| 00:23.50 | stoned | hey man |
| 00:24.07 | beardy | !run at boot |
| 00:24.08 | dpkg | To run something at boot, either use an @reboot cronjob (man 5 crontab). Or ask me about "update-rc.d" and "rcconf". |
| 00:24.10 | stoned | why you gonna make my irc flash man |
| 00:24.12 | stoned | :( |
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| 00:24.18 | abrotman | maybe if you picked a better nick |
| 00:24.20 | stoned | lol |
| 00:24.22 | beardy | Kernel-Kris: ^^^ |
| 00:24.41 | ml2 | _wendell: the /etc/raidtab had helped |
| 00:24.50 | beardy | Kernel-Kris: But ntpdate runs at boot already, doesn't it |
| 00:24.55 | beardy | `? |
| 00:24.57 | scarynetworkguy | Yeah, something cool like scarynetworkguy! |
| 00:25.14 | Kernel-Kris | beardy: not on an embedded version of debian :P |
| 00:25.17 | abrotman | scarynetforkguy! |
| 00:25.33 | scarynetworkguy | Yay! |
| 00:25.58 | quitte_ | bah. the md module which was present in 2.6.12 disappeared in newer kernels. is it md-mod now? |
| 00:26.15 | beardy | Kernel-Kris: define "embedded version of debian" please? Is it Debian or some based-on-debian? |
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| 00:26.53 | Kernel-Kris | no its a striped down version of sarge |
| 00:27.17 | beardy | Kernel-Kris: Why have they messed with ntpdate? |
| 00:27.25 | beardy | Kernel-Kris: The name of it please. |
| 00:27.43 | Kernel-Kris | becuase there is no realtime clock and they have some fixes for it ...its voyage |
| 00:28.00 | beardy | Ok. |
| 00:28.31 | beardy | Kernel-Kris: Does it have cron? |
| 00:28.35 | Kernel-Kris | ya |
| 00:28.58 | beardy | Kernel-Kris: Easiest is an @reboot cronjob. |
| 00:29.01 | ml2 | _wendell: Do you have root on raid? |
| 00:29.10 | _wendell | ml2: No. |
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| 00:29.35 | astronut | is there a better samba client than smbclient? |
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| 00:29.52 | Kernel-Kris | i mean cant i just make a sym link to the /etc/init.d/ntpupdate script in each of the /etc/rc* |
| 00:30.06 | abrotman | man update-rc.d |
| 00:30.17 | evaded | Is it normal that the file ~/.Xauthority are owned by root? |
| 00:30.19 | beardy | !update-rc.d |
| 00:30.19 | dpkg | somebody said update-rc.d was used to manipulate what's loaded when a system boots up. Also use it instead of deleting symlinks by hand Example to add: 'update-rc.d dhcpd defaults 90'. Example to remove: 'update-rc.d -f dhcpd remove', or read "man update-rc.d" for a good intro to Debian's boot process, or see rcconf |
| 00:30.21 | beardy | !rcconf |
| 00:30.21 | dpkg | rcconf is probably a frontend to the update-rc.d, or check out sysv-rc-conf ...and if it's broken, try this: for a in $(ls /etc/rc?.d/???jabber) ; do rm $a ; done |
| 00:30.44 | ml2 | _wendell: Were the scsi disks partitioned with a usual ibm-pc master boot record with raid-partitions? |
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| 00:31.04 | ml2 | _wendell: Probably you have zeroed the MBRs instead of your real superblocks |
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| 00:31.06 | _wendell | ml2: They are not SCSI disks, and no, they were unformatted until I made an array |
| 00:31.15 | _wendell | ml2: No, because I used the mdadm tool to do it |
| 00:31.31 | ml2 | but you zeroead out /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 |
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| 00:32.12 | acetech | anyone know of a linux alternative to the macromedia flash player in linux that is not web browswer based? |
| 00:32.15 | ml2 | do you know the chunk-size you have used? |
| 00:32.48 | quitte_ | isn't there any way to jsut tell the kernel that it should scan for raid devices? |
| 00:33.04 | paradizelost | so, why is debian so great? what makes it better than freeBSD? |
| 00:33.09 | ml2 | quitte_: If they still had their superblocks, it would work |
| 00:33.09 | dondelelcaro | acetech: the gnash project is working on that. |
| 00:33.18 | dondelelcaro | !tell paradizelost -about why debian |
| 00:33.48 | paradizelost | but what about gentoo? |
| 00:33.58 | beardy | paradizelost: Ask #gentoo |
| 00:34.20 | abrotman | i think he meant .. why is debian better than gentoo |
| 00:34.34 | Azar | hmm BSD is in full campaign again |
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| 00:34.47 | beardy | He can then read what dpkg said again. |
| 00:34.52 | beered | what is the name of skel file that assigns default settings (login shell etc) to 'adduser'? |
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| 00:35.28 | quitte_ | ml2 they have mdadm -Q and --examine on the 4 partitions looks good. so how can i do it? |
| 00:35.56 | beardy | beered: /etc/skel IIRC, 'locate skel' |
| 00:36.14 | ml2 | quitte_: They do have got their superblocks? |
| 00:36.31 | ml2 | quitte_: Do you have got an /etc/raidtab? |
| 00:36.35 | beered | beardy: I'm trying to figure out what assigns login shell in skel. |
| 00:36.40 | beered | beardy: I'm trying to figure out what assigns login shell in skel... directory. |
| 00:36.58 | quitte_ | ml2: no, debian installer didn't make one afaik. i'll walk and chack anyways. |
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| 00:37.27 | abrotman | beered: it doesn't? |
| 00:37.30 | dondelelcaro | beered: nothing does, that's set by the passwd defaults. |
| 00:37.42 | quitte_ | ml2: no,no raidtab |
| 00:37.50 | dondelelcaro | beered: generally /bin/bash is a decent default, users should use chsh if they want something lese. |
| 00:37.52 | abrotman | beered: you mean .. when you run 'adduser' .. where does it figure out the shell that it uses as the default from ? |
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| 00:38.02 | quitte_ | ml2: they have their superblocks. |
| 00:38.20 | beered | abrotman: yes, I want to change the shell for all new users to '/bin/false'. |
| 00:38.32 | abrotman | beered: are you sure? |
| 00:38.41 | beered | abrotman: now I have to manually edit passwd file and I'm too lazy for that. |
| 00:38.43 | ml2 | quitte_: Are they partitions or whole devices? |
| 00:38.51 | beered | abrotman: yes, I'm sure. |
| 00:38.52 | abrotman | beered: ok .. if you say so .. but it's not a great idea .. |
| 00:38.53 | ribnitz_ | I have a system without net acces I want to upgrade (from an unknoen 3.0 opr 3.1 debian to 3.1r2). How many of the cd images are typically needed? |
| 00:38.56 | abrotman | beered: /etc/adduser.conf |
| 00:38.58 | quitte_ | ml2 partitions. type raid autodetect |
| 00:39.12 | ml2 | quitte_: So it should work |
| 00:39.16 | beered | abrotman: why it isn't a good idea? |
| 00:39.20 | beardy | So which is it, adduser.conf or handles by passwd's default? |
| 00:39.27 | quitte_ | ml2: it? which it? |
| 00:39.40 | quitte_ | ml2: modprobe md-mod didnt autodetect. |
| 00:39.43 | thomasb | Hi, Could you kindly point me to docs that would show me hot to setup networking (debian style) on my laptop so that on boot up it tries to first setup ethernet, on failing tries wireless (I have configured drivers) on failing that deletes default route so that the modem may be used. |
| 00:39.49 | abrotman | beardy: huh ? |
| 00:39.55 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 00:39.55 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 00:40.01 | beardy | thomasb: ^^^ |
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| 00:40.12 | Ademan | in linux (debian) how do you set apache httpd's "htdocs" directory? |
| 00:40.18 | thomasb | thanks will look |
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| 00:40.20 | abrotman | Ademan: apache1 or 2 ? |
| 00:40.22 | beardy | abrotman: what dondelelcaro and you said is not consistent |
| 00:40.28 | abrotman | beardy: i know |
| 00:40.33 | ribnitz_ | Ademan: /etc/apache(2)/httpd.conf |
| 00:40.34 | Ademan | abrotman: 2 |
| 00:40.47 | abrotman | Ademan: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default .. or something like that |
| 00:40.51 | ml2 | quitte_: And what about a scan? |
| 00:41.04 | abrotman | Ademan: you want the DocumentRoot variable |
| 00:41.09 | dondelelcaro | beered: it's consistent. adduser is what is responsible for setting the entry in /etc/passwd. Thus, the passwd default. |
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| 00:41.18 | Ademan | thanks both of you |
| 00:41.19 | quitte_ | ml2: mdadm -s? no doesn't do a thing. i think it wants a raidtab. |
| 00:41.23 | dondelelcaro | (well, adduser's call to useradd, but that's the adiea) |
| 00:41.25 | beered | dondelelcaro: I know that. I wasn't asking that q. It was beardy. |
| 00:41.26 | beardy | dondelelcaro: Ah. |
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| 00:41.41 | beardy | beered: nicktab error |
| 00:41.47 | dondelelcaro | beered: sorry, misfired tab complete, and I can't fix it very quickly on this link. |
| 00:41.59 | Ademan | do you guys mind multiline (5) pastes? |
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| 00:42.05 | abrotman | i thought beardy was saying that don said the shell is set by /etc/passwd ... not by /etc/skel/ .. as opposed to my answer which said to change /etc/adduser.conf .. to change the default shell when a user is created |
| 00:42.08 | abrotman | oh well |
| 00:42.55 | beardy | abrotman: I wan't saying anything really, I was just confused by who were right, and you both were. |
| 00:43.06 | abrotman | aye |
| 00:43.09 | abrotman | but i think i got the answer! |
| 00:43.40 | ml2 | quitte_: I would do an assemble |
| 00:43.45 | thingfish | Ademan: you'll get kicked automatically if you paste more than 3. |
| 00:43.51 | Ademan | eh nvm then |
| 00:44.04 | Ademan | this is what was in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf http://hstuart.dk/paste/view.aspx?id=0c15808f-315a-4979-a35f-ab19c66118da |
| 00:44.25 | abrotman | Ademan: i told you where to change it |
| 00:44.30 | abrotman | and even told you the directive |
| 00:44.30 | quitte_ | ml2: yes. i guess thats the best i can do right now. but im a little scared this might corrupt the data. |
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| 00:45.47 | beered | How do I define what font aterm can/will use? I tried aterm*font: -artwiz-smooth-medium-r-semicondensed--10-120-75-75-m-60-iso10646-1 |
| 00:46.00 | ml2 | mdadm -Ac partitions -m 0 /dev/md0 |
| 00:46.00 | ml2 | Scan all partitions and devices listed in /proc/partitions and assemble /dev/md0 out of all such devices with a RAID superblock with a minor number of 0. |
| 00:46.00 | quitte_ | ml2: mdadm -A -a md0 sda1 sdb1 sdd1 sdc1? |
| 00:46.24 | beardy | beered: It's in the manual. Search "font". |
| 00:46.33 | quitte_ | ml2: oh sounds nice. |
| 00:46.55 | beered | beardy: I know that. |
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| 00:48.21 | ml2 | http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO.html |
| 00:48.38 | kreg | liable, <liable> kreg: if you follow the debian-admin howto that dpkg links to, it "just works" |
| 00:48.41 | kreg | huh? |
| 00:48.56 | kreg | dpkg links to a debian-admin howto? |
| 00:49.13 | kreg | yes, still trying to get java working in a debian system. |
| 00:49.20 | kreg | it's amazingly documented confusingly |
| 00:49.31 | kreg | can't belive how i'm not following it' |
| 00:49.51 | konfuzed | uh is it actaully possible to set a RAM fs of 1Gig to be used for swap - and work |
| 00:50.29 | rxed | How can I find out what /dev/ an external device is connected to (these are USB or 1394 dev's)? |
| 00:50.54 | abrotman | dmesg might say |
| 00:50.56 | konfuzed | ls /mnt/ |
| 00:51.00 | beardy | !tell kreg -about java-package |
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| 00:51.22 | rxed | konfuzed: no. |
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| 00:51.30 | beardy | kreg: There's a debian-administration.org link. |
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| 00:51.33 | quitte | ml2: superblock on /dev/sdd desn't match others - assembly aborted. |
| 00:51.35 | konfuzed | well then you can grep those from dmesg |
| 00:51.39 | quitte_ | ml2: superblock on /dev/sdd desn't match thers - assembly aborted. |
| 00:52.01 | konfuzed | rxed, uh maybe you meant swap |
| 00:52.12 | rxed | konfuzed: you are confused. |
| 00:52.15 | konfuzed | yes |
| 00:52.21 | konfuzed | uh is it actaully possible to set a RAM fs of 1Gig to be used for swap - and work |
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| 00:52.40 | quitte | ml2: do you know how to get rid of that superblock? that one is old and wrong. the correctone is on sdd1 |
| 00:52.48 | rxed | konfuzed: ls /dev/ doesn't give jack because drives aren't mounted. |
| 00:52.49 | amphi | konfuzed: why do you want swap in ram ffs? |
| 00:53.10 | konfuzed | to piss somebody off and remove the swap slice from the drive |
| 00:53.28 | beardy | rxed: Unplug and plug in, watch dmesg. |
| 00:53.29 | rxed | konfuzed: this isn't a chan for you buddy. |
| 00:53.33 | konfuzed | no |
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| 00:53.59 | konfuzed | i doin some projects with via motherboards |
| 00:54.12 | konfuzed | like lite servers |
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| 00:54.31 | beardy | rxed: other than that it's just to take a guess, I guess.. |
| 00:54.32 | amphi | konfuzed: so just run without swap |
| 00:54.48 | rxed | beardy: that would work either. I don't have these drives connected when I boot. I connected and disconnect them while I work. |
| 00:54.53 | quitte | ml2:i think i found it. |
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| 00:56.01 | beardy | rxed: Why wouldn't that work? That's what I meant, replug them when the machine is up. And either run 'dmesg' afterwards, or watch the syslog. |
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| 00:56.15 | Stevie | blah. I have to clean up my apartment |
| 00:56.19 | abrotman | putting swap in RAM isn't really going to get you anything |
| 00:56.25 | abrotman | Stevie: make the woman do it! |
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| 00:56.29 | Stevie | What woman? |
| 00:56.36 | abrotman | the neighbor? |
| 00:56.42 | Stevie | I don't know my neighbors |
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| 00:56.53 | abrotman | time to meet some |
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| 00:56.57 | Stevie | and apparently they're sending a maintenance guy around on Monday to check my smoke detectors |
| 00:57.06 | abrotman | you've got all weekend |
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| 00:57.14 | abrotman | go to vito's .. get some pizza! |
| 00:57.19 | rxed | LOL. Stevie you pack rat! |
| 00:57.27 | Stevie | heh, you know vitos? |
| 00:57.29 | rxed | beardy: I'll try that. Thanks. |
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| 00:57.56 | abrotman | Stevie: and angelo's and famous george's .. and little sicily .. and peace-a-pizza |
| 00:58.05 | Stevie | I live in the apartment complex that's right next to Vitos |
| 00:58.10 | ml2 | wendell3_: looks bad, mkraid's man-page tells, that creating raid arrays destroys data |
| 00:58.12 | abrotman | gulph or kings ? |
| 00:58.16 | quitte | ml2 thanks a lot. at least the raid is there again |
| 00:58.16 | Stevie | kings |
| 00:58.26 | abrotman | Stevie: we used to go booze at marrone's .. a lot :) |
| 00:58.53 | konfuzed | mmmmmm i was thinking of doing a small box with 4 SATA drives on RAID5 and so is there no way out of getting a 5th drive just to boot run the file server. |
| 00:59.02 | Stevie | not familiar with marrones |
| 00:59.04 | konfuzed | oh off a custom built live cd |
| 00:59.12 | abrotman | Stevie: it's that restaurant across the street ... |
| 00:59.12 | Stevie | Quite familiar with the Wawa across from Peace tho |
| 00:59.15 | konfuzed | hm |
| 00:59.17 | abrotman | Stevie: it's closed now .. |
| 00:59.19 | quitte | but it seems xfs didn't like being grown. |
| 00:59.25 | abrotman | Stevie: the place with the big parking lot .. and a patio |
| 00:59.32 | Stevie | I don't go over there too often |
| 00:59.37 | abrotman | Stevie: it's closed .. you can't |
| 00:59.45 | Stevie | I mean in that general direction :) |
| 00:59.45 | konfuzed | hhhmmm does debian boot off of USB pen drives? |
| 00:59.48 | rxed | what was the name of that thingy that controls and shows the system installed fonts? |
| 00:59.50 | Stevie | it can, konfuzed |
| 01:00.04 | Stevie | there's a usb stick install mode |
| 01:00.06 | abrotman | Stevie: oh .. we didn't go back after they tried to throw me out for cursing |
| 01:00.09 | konfuzed | oh |
| 01:00.15 | konfuzed | install onto usb stick? |
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| 01:00.22 | abrotman | !usb install |
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| 01:00.26 | pyroplasm | rxed: maybe hdparm -I could do the job (show the drives) |
| 01:00.28 | abrotman | !usb-install |
| 01:00.28 | dpkg | well, usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 01:00.41 | konfuzed | ah |
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| 01:00.49 | rxed | pyroplasm: I was asking for a font WYSIWYG util. |
| 01:00.59 | abrotman | !usb install is <reply>see usb-install |
| 01:00.59 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
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| 01:01.15 | pyroplasm | and before that you asked.. nevermind. |
| 01:01.23 | Stevie | lol |
| 01:01.25 | pyroplasm | !xfontsel |
| 01:01.26 | dpkg | methinks xfontsel is an x program to interactively build up font strings |
| 01:01.27 | kreg | thanks beardy |
| 01:01.28 | Stevie | pyroplasm: getting mixed up? |
| 01:01.29 | beardy | rxed: tkfont, and gtkfont, IIRC, but not control, only view them |
| 01:01.55 | beardy | rxed: and xfont, something like that |
| 01:02.34 | beardy | oh |
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| 01:03.05 | Stevie | Johqn: Why wait? Build one yourself! |
| 01:03.12 | rxed | pyroplasm: I see what you mean. hdparm -I needs to know /dev and if I don't know that. |
| 01:03.14 | konfuzed | ok so being a file server without a boot HD or swap slice , could it squeak any extra performance out of setting up a RAMfs-swap in conjunction with software raid to manage those 4 sata |
| 01:03.34 | konfuzed | instead of hardware raid |
| 01:03.41 | Stevie | rxed: What question was pyroplasm attempting to answer? |
| 01:03.44 | Johqn | Stevie, I do |
| 01:03.53 | pyroplasm | rxed: right. so you'd have to go through /dev/hd? |
| 01:03.59 | rxed | Stevie: How can I find out what /dev/ an external device is connected to (these are USB or 1394 dev's)? |
| 01:04.03 | pyroplasm | or maybe sd? |
| 01:04.05 | beardy | konfuzed: Swap is used when you don't have enough ram, why have swap in ram? |
| 01:04.07 | Johqn | But I still download 17 cds |
| 01:04.15 | Johqn | of the testin version |
| 01:04.15 | rxed | pyroplasm: sometimes is /dev/sd0 |
| 01:04.25 | Stevie | rxed: dmesg |
| 01:04.56 | konfuzed | mmmm maybe my thinking was backwards with swap realted to drive performace |
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| 01:04.57 | Stevie | rxed: That is an interesting puzzle, I must say |
| 01:04.59 | rxed | Stevie: that's what others said too. I was hoping there would be other way. |
| 01:05.04 | konfuzed | its happened b4 |
| 01:05.37 | pyroplasm | I like the fact that ppl search for questions for my solutions :) |
| 01:06.00 | beardy | pyroplasm: 42 |
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| 01:06.00 | konfuzed | hell the SoftRAID would be doing its own memory handling as well wouldnt it? |
| 01:06.24 | Stevie | rxed: hold on |
| 01:06.32 | konfuzed | i dont mess with the raid too uch previously - set and go kinda thing. |
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| 01:07.09 | abrotman | lsusb |
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| 01:07.29 | Stevie | abrotman: That won't tell you anything about what the device was exposed to from |
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| 01:07.45 | quitte | konfuzed: install mdadm asap in case you set raid up with the installer |
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| 01:08.22 | konfuzed | lsusb is kewl too, i dont mess with usb drives much either. dont even have one not even from a tech show |
| 01:08.34 | pyroplasm | hdparm -I /dev/[hs]d? |
| 01:08.59 | konfuzed | i did not try to install this yet, im clearing up my brains before buying any hardware |
| 01:09.06 | rxed | is there ls for all /dev's? my drives sometimes show as /dev/sd0 |
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| 01:10.15 | Stevie | yeah, just ls /dev |
| 01:10.45 | konfuzed | intel has put a 400mhz box running softraid linux and samba for NAS that is like $650US plus buy your own drives |
| 01:11.02 | rxed | Stevie: that gives me lots of crap. I just want to find out where 1394 and usb drives are. I know I can dmesg but I was hoping there is a neat trick, eg. lsusb |
| 01:11.03 | konfuzed | its just silly to say the least |
| 01:11.09 | abrotman | Stevie: yeah .. but it's still cool to look at! |
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| 01:11.34 | konfuzed | sure high quality components and assembly |
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| 01:12.07 | abrotman | rxed: you mean a handy gui tool ? |
| 01:12.34 | Stevie | abrotman: hehe |
| 01:12.39 | myren | what is "hyper" |
| 01:12.41 | rxed | abrotman: no |
| 01:12.43 | myren | what is the hyper key? |
| 01:12.45 | konfuzed | hm maybe boot it off the usb stick , have it move the system to ram and then remove the usb drive |
| 01:12.57 | myren | in gnome i can map the windows key to meta, super or .... hyper |
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| 01:13.08 | konfuzed | then its locked for no reboot |
| 01:13.08 | abrotman | myren: did you ask #ubuntu ? |
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| 01:13.35 | myren | dont be a dick |
| 01:13.45 | abrotman | don't be a tard .. you're using ubuntu .. ask #ubuntu |
| 01:13.47 | myren | please |
| 01:13.50 | myren | i'm not! |
| 01:13.52 | shai | Hi :) i saw a setup of inetd.conf something like this: http://pastebin.com/714579 ; what does this mean? how is this used? |
| 01:13.54 | abrotman | you are! |
| 01:13.55 | myren | i have TWO ubuntu packages installed |
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| 01:14.07 | abrotman | it's not Debian |
| 01:14.07 | abrotman | you're on your own |
| 01:14.11 | myren | there, they're uninstalled |
| 01:14.14 | abrotman | nope |
| 01:14.17 | abrotman | too late |
| 01:14.20 | kreg | apt-get install java-package. do i need a particular source in apt for that to work? |
| 01:14.21 | abrotman | been infected .. |
| 01:14.30 | myren | seriously, wtf? |
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| 01:14.45 | myren | i'm sorry i seem to have personally offended you so badly |
| 01:14.46 | Stevie | if you're using Debian, then why the hell are you trying to install Ubuntu packages? |
| 01:14.48 | abrotman | seriously .. if you want ubuntu .. ask #ubuntu |
| 01:15.05 | myren | if you really are furious with me, feel like i've sinned against you, by all means, please ignore me |
| 01:15.07 | abrotman | myren: you're asking for non-debian support in the debian support channel |
| 01:15.10 | myren | but this is a tyraid |
| 01:15.23 | myren | i uninstalled the grand two packages i was using |
| 01:15.34 | shogunx | myren are the packages in any way related to gnome that you installed from ubuntu? |
| 01:15.39 | myren | no |
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| 01:15.41 | myren | not in the least |
| 01:15.46 | abrotman | yeah ..but we don't know what those two packages were .. or how they messed up your system |
| 01:15.50 | DB7654321 | I just compiled a 2.6 inird kernel using make-kpkg on an unstable box, and an having trouble installing it on a machine running sarge. The deb requires yaird (>= 0.0.11-8) | initramfs-tools (>= 0.53) | linux-initramfs-tool, but none are available on sarge, evidently. What are my options? |
| 01:16.00 | myren | i had a misc. python package i was using |
| 01:16.04 | shogunx | myren, what were the packages? |
| 01:16.05 | abrotman | oh .. is that all ? |
| 01:16.07 | abrotman | just python |
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| 01:16.53 | myren | i had like python-fuse and one other |
| 01:16.57 | stew | DB7654321: use backports, /msg dpkg backports ; http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 01:17.22 | shai | Hi :) i saw a setup of inetd.conf something like this: http://pastebin.com/714579 ; what does this mean? how is this used? |
| 01:17.29 | shogunx | myren did you read the fine manual and not find an answer to your question? |
| 01:17.41 | myren | i found no answer to my question |
| 01:17.42 | DB7654321 | stew: Thanks |
| 01:17.56 | abrotman | maybe he would if he would ask #ubuntu |
| 01:18.02 | shogunx | myren google.com/linux either? |
| 01:18.03 | myren | what is up with you? |
| 01:18.09 | myren | is it that time or month or something abrotman? |
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| 01:18.18 | abrotman | myren: if you don't like it .. try ##linux |
| 01:18.18 | myren | you've been more than helpful to me throughout the years |
| 01:18.21 | myren | sudenyl you want to kill me |
| 01:18.30 | abrotman | when you were using Debian ... |
| 01:18.35 | abrotman | traitor! |
| 01:18.35 | myren | i'll get a new ip and new nickname if thats what you insist |
| 01:18.39 | abrotman | !slay myren |
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| 01:18.54 | quitte | i cant believe it. all the time people tell me dont use reiser it kills your data. now i listened and used xfs - and of course it killed my data. |
| 01:18.57 | Stevie | myren: This is #debian. This is not #ubuntu. This is not #debianwithabitofubuntu. You are doing something we are not going to help you with. We told you we wouldn't help. And you insist on asking for help anyway. |
| 01:19.01 | shogunx | hey abrotman... |
| 01:19.06 | shogunx | !bongswat |
| 01:19.07 | dpkg | hmm... bongswat is "Hit the bong, man!" |
| 01:19.07 | myren | I am on debian fuckwatt |
| 01:19.11 | stew | ok, you two. time to bust out the /ig command |
| 01:19.11 | abrotman | shogunx: if you got more cool hardware .. i'll kill you |
| 01:19.27 | shogunx | abrotman, not yet, but working on it. |
| 01:19.32 | Stevie | how much electricity is in a fuckwatt? |
| 01:19.34 | abrotman | shogunx: i'd slay you too! |
| 01:19.36 | myren | my question is 9000% debian |
| 01:19.39 | quitte | xfs_repair tells me it cant find a backup superblock. so iis there anything i can do? |
| 01:19.42 | abrotman | Stevie: a metric crapload ? :) |
| 01:19.42 | myren | what is the stupid hyper key |
| 01:19.45 | shogunx | abrotman i share though, when i can afford to. |
| 01:19.51 | rxed | Stevie: shitloadkilowatt |
| 01:19.55 | abrotman | !google what is the hyper key |
| 01:20.03 | dpkg | Google says what is the hyper key is at http://www.gwydiondylan.org/documentation/opendylan/dref/dref_394.htm or http://web.fis.unico.it/public/www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/xemacs/xemacs_15.html or http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/emacs/emacs_555.html or http://www.cs.cmu.edu/cgi-bin/info2www?(emacs)MS-DOS%20Input or http://www.la.utexas.edu/lab/software/user/gnu/xemacs/xemacs_5.html |
| 01:20.06 | kreg | i can't find the pakage i need to run make-jpkg |
| 01:20.16 | shogunx | holyshit cool bot feature. |
| 01:20.18 | kreg | serioulsy, every debian document i'm finding is boken |
| 01:20.20 | abrotman | !tell kreg about install java |
| 01:20.28 | abrotman | kreg: you need contrib sources |
| 01:20.29 | kreg | its' installed |
| 01:20.29 | myren | java is not part of debian |
| 01:20.32 | myren | we do not support it |
| 01:20.33 | quitte | also im sure the raid5 is intact. the lvm on it is ok. and the reiser volume is fine. |
| 01:20.35 | myren | go find a different channel |
| 01:20.36 | stew | myren: yes it is |
| 01:20.41 | abrotman | myren: make-jpkg is |
| 01:20.46 | myren | java-package and then you are unsupported |
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| 01:21.24 | myren | i dont know what to say guys, |
| 01:21.25 | Stevie | does it have strychnine in it? |
| 01:21.29 | myren | i'm sorry for being a dick earlier |
| 01:21.44 | myren | i'm sorry for insisting #debian should've helped me |
| 01:22.02 | quitte | dpkg xfs is also if you want to grow your filesystem data use reiser. xfs_growfs kills data. |
| 01:22.03 | dpkg | that's too long, quitte |
| 01:22.17 | stew | quitte: what bug# are you talking about? |
| 01:22.18 | kreg | abrotman, yep no contrib was in sources |
| 01:22.19 | Stevie | doesn't reiser kill data too? |
| 01:22.24 | abrotman | myren: you have to admit .. if you don't know what the hyper key is .. it's probably not on your keyboard .. |
| 01:22.29 | kreg | yet it didn't complain about not finding java |
| 01:22.31 | kreg | hmm |
| 01:22.37 | quitte | stew: im talking about i just lost my data |
| 01:22.42 | abrotman | kreg: you need contrib |
| 01:22.47 | quitte | stew and i will report |
| 01:23.01 | myren | abrotman: i was trying to figure out what i should map my windows key to. |
| 01:23.02 | abrotman | quitte: you'll have to be able to reproduce it! :) |
| 01:23.11 | stew | quitte: that's more important than putting random stuff into the factoids |
| 01:23.11 | quitte | Stevie: never killed my data |
| 01:23.15 | shogunx | myren i usually remove mine. |
| 01:23.20 | Stevie | !ricerfs |
| 01:23.21 | dpkg | i heard ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 01:23.37 | Stevie | does reiser4 fix the fsck issue? |
| 01:23.47 | abrotman | compose ? |
| 01:23.57 | quitte | abrotman: ok. any idea how i can get my data back in the meantime? |
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| 01:24.18 | abrotman | quitte: nerp ... from your backup that you made before you tried to grow your FS ? |
| 01:24.20 | shogunx | quitte mounting with a livecd gives no joy? |
| 01:24.34 | unix_infidel | anyone here use firebird? |
| 01:24.39 | abrotman | http://www.cis.ksu.edu/VirtualHelp/Info/gnu/lemacs.Super_and_Hyper_Keys.html |
| 01:24.43 | abrotman | the database? |
| 01:24.47 | quitte | abrotman: i expected that to be save. never had trouble with doing that with reiser after all. |
| 01:24.50 | Stevie | I used to use firebird. Before that I used Phoenix. |
| 01:24.55 | Stevie | ;-) |
| 01:25.00 | abrotman | quitte: you should *always* backup when you do something like that |
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| 01:25.17 | quitte | shogunx: what kind of difference would that make? |
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| 01:26.03 | shogunx | quitte some variables are different. i would try it before wiping the disk anyway. |
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| 01:27.11 | stew | quitte: what version of xfsprogs do you have installed? |
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| 01:27.52 | abrotman | yay for prescriptions ? |
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| 01:28.03 | Stevie | Yay for prescriptions. |
| 01:28.49 | quitte | Stevie: latest sid |
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| 01:28.53 | quitte | stew: ^^ |
| 01:28.56 | Stevie | Latest sid? |
| 01:28.56 | Stevie | oh |
| 01:29.04 | Stevie | hey abrotman, that guy got me thinking... what *would* be an appropriate way to enable the system to show what device is backing e.g. /dev/scd0? |
| 01:29.10 | stew | ... |
| 01:29.17 | abrotman | quitte: and what kernel ? |
| 01:29.20 | abrotman | Stevie: eh? |
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| 01:29.35 | quitte | abrotman: both 2.6.15 and 2.6.16 do the same |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | i meant .. debian or your own ? |
| 01:29.53 | quitte | debian |
| 01:30.01 | stew | quitte: here's where you get your "welcome to unstable" badge of honor or something! |
| 01:30.02 | quitte | 686 smp |
| 01:30.13 | Stevie | !win quitte |
| 01:30.14 | dpkg | Congratulations, quitte! You have won the US presidency! |
| 01:30.21 | abrotman | !dbugs 360740 |
| 01:30.24 | dpkg | #360740:I[xfsprogs] [m68k] xfsprogs builds with gcc-4.1; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:03:47 UTC |
| 01:30.27 | abrotman | wtf ^ |
| 01:30.35 | abrotman | OH NOES .. IT BUILDS! |
| 01:30.41 | Stevie | obviously xfsprogs should not build with gcc 4.1 |
| 01:30.57 | pete_ | I have encountered a minor problem using Debian Testing: after doing a big update, now when I turn on my computer it can't find /dev/hda1, so it drops me into busybox. Then, I have to type "modprobe ide-disk" and then "logout" and then the computer starts up as normal... I already tried making a new initrd, but it doesn't seem to change anything... |
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| 01:31.28 | abrotman | pete_: put ide-disk in /etc/modules |
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| 01:31.48 | abrotman | Stevie: you can do weird stuff with udev |
| 01:32.13 | qwerty | what is udev?? |
| 01:32.23 | abrotman | !udev |
| 01:32.23 | dpkg | methinks udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
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| 01:32.41 | pete_ | abrotman: I just opened the file, and it looks like it's already there... |
| 01:32.43 | abrotman | Stevie: do you have udev . and a usb device handy?> |
| 01:32.47 | qwerty | ah |
| 01:32.50 | shai | i'm having some rsync problems... would appriciate the help :) |
| 01:32.55 | quitte | hmm. not reproducable so far :( |
| 01:33.12 | shai | oh man ... gtg .. bbl |
| 01:33.23 | Stevie | abrotman: I do |
| 01:33.43 | qwerty | should use scp |
| 01:33.44 | abrotman | Stevie: what happens if you run udevmonitor as root .. and then plug the device in ? |
| 01:34.08 | abrotman | Stevie: i don't have my usb drivehandy |
| 01:34.42 | Stevie | a lot |
| 01:34.47 | abrotman | anyhting useful ? |
| 01:34.55 | Stevie | http://rafb.net/paste/results/2MOBA017.html |
| 01:34.57 | Stevie | possibly |
| 01:35.18 | abrotman | wtf is that ... a CD drive? |
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| 01:36.23 | Stevie | yes |
| 01:36.43 | abrotman | and it normally maps to /dev/sr0 ? |
| 01:36.54 | Stevie | I dunno. |
| 01:37.00 | Stevie | Never plugged it into this machine before |
| 01:37.03 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:37.24 | Stevie | thought it was supposed to be scd0 |
| 01:37.26 | Stevie | but I guess not |
| 01:37.57 | Stevie | There's another machine I could try, but it's been a while since I hooked it into there, either, so I can't remember what to expect |
| 01:38.36 | Stevie | it would be nice if hdparm worked on scsi devices |
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| 01:38.56 | Nopalin | any body who has installed xgl? |
| 01:39.01 | Nopalin | i need help |
| 01:39.13 | abrotman | xgl isn't in debina yet |
| 01:39.20 | abrotman | !xgl |
| 01:39.20 | dpkg | xgl is, like, the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running.check http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease or ask me about "compiz" and "xgl-howto", or see http://getkororaa.com/ for a live-cd with xgl. see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl |
| 01:39.20 | thingfish | <gasp> |
| 01:39.25 | shogunx | nor debain |
| 01:39.28 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:39.31 | shogunx | nor debian |
| 01:39.46 | Stevie | so what? You can render your window manager in 3d? |
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| 01:39.55 | abrotman | that's part of the idea |
| 01:40.01 | Stevie | oooh 3D close buttons! Wow! |
| 01:40.08 | abrotman | don't knock it til you try it |
| 01:40.14 | abrotman | erm .. yeah .. knock it |
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| 01:40.24 | shogunx | Stevie no, like 6 differnet apps mapped to differnet sides of a cube. |
| 01:40.25 | spanglesontoast | hmm |
| 01:40.28 | qwerty | debian uses xfree86, I dobt people heree can help you |
| 01:40.38 | spanglesontoast | does anyone know why I cannot use vsftpd on etch or even pure-ftpd? |
| 01:40.41 | Stevie | shogunx: A coworker of mine found some replacement shell for Windows that lets you do that. |
| 01:40.42 | abrotman | qwerty: sarge does .. etch and sid have xorg |
| 01:40.48 | bztunk | i wonder if a XGL ratpoison would be cool :D |
| 01:41.01 | abrotman | Stevie: litewm or whatever it is ? |
| 01:41.02 | qwerty | I meant it doesn't have xgl |
| 01:41.04 | shogunx | Stevie sorry you have to work with people using windows. |
| 01:41.13 | Stevie | no, it's wacko |
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| 01:41.55 | shogunx | there have been other attempts at similar... fresco if i remember correctly. |
| 01:42.02 | abrotman | !fresco |
| 01:42.02 | dpkg | hmm... fresco is a windowing system derived from a powerful structured graphics toolkit originally based on InterViews. Fresco's extensions include a rich drawing interface with multiple backends, an upgrade to modern CORBA standards, a new Unicode-capable text system, dynamic module loading, and many communication abstractions for connecting other processes to the server. see http://www.fresco.org/, or used to be called berlin |
| 01:42.06 | abrotman | !berlin |
| 01:42.06 | dpkg | well, berlin is an extension of fresco to a complete windowing system, using its own drawing libraries and a component loader. it works, is pretty, and is LGPL. it does not yet do enough to make it worth switching from X, but it will. Visit http://www.berlin-consortium.org for more info. or [Q: Why is it consortium? do dict consortium], or at #berlin, or now called fresco, see http://www.fresco.org |
| 01:42.10 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:42.17 | abrotman | what a wreck |
| 01:42.34 | shogunx | and of course tdfsb, which is actually pretty neat. |
| 01:42.46 | shogunx | tho only a file manager. |
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| 01:43.09 | abrotman | you forgot 5dwm |
| 01:43.19 | shogunx | never knew about that one. |
| 01:43.25 | abrotman | http://5dwm.org/screenshots.html#top |
| 01:43.31 | abrotman | wait .. that wasn't what i was thinking of though |
| 01:43.44 | abrotman | yay irix! |
| 01:43.59 | Ademan | is there an apache httpd channel here? |
| 01:44.15 | abrotman | #apache .. oddly |
| 01:44.17 | qwerty | apparently, consortium=Aktiengesellschaft |
| 01:44.24 | shogunx | abrotman openinventor was pretty ok, if you liked vrml. |
| 01:44.36 | abrotman | if only vrml hadn't died ... |
| 01:44.54 | shogunx | it was born premature |
| 01:45.27 | abrotman | yep |
| 01:45.40 | abrotman | darn cool though |
| 01:45.52 | qwerty | any1 know of any good lectronics design software?? |
| 01:45.59 | qwerty | any1 know of any good electronics design software?? |
| 01:46.14 | shogunx | abrotman i thought so. |
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| 01:47.33 | shogunx | qwerty apt-cache search circuit |
| 01:47.47 | abrotman | geda and xcircuit |
| 01:47.51 | qwerty | thnx |
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| 01:48.09 | quitte | at least my mail was still in evolutions imap cache so i could save those. so nothing too bad happened actually except that i lost my trust in xfs |
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| 01:48.51 | pedro_ | some has installed debian on a dell 6850 ? |
| 01:48.57 | abrotman | quitte: would you like to try JFS today? |
| 01:49.10 | Stevie | never heard of geda or xcircuit. heard of pcb tho |
| 01:49.17 | abrotman | !info geda sarge |
| 01:49.20 | dpkg | geda: (GNU EDA -- Electronics design software), section electronics, is optional. Version: 20050313-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 94 kB, Installed size: 392 kB |
| 01:49.32 | shogunx | Stevie gnucap looks pretty interesting too. |
| 01:49.32 | quitte | abrotman: no. ill go to bed and back to reiser tomorrow |
| 01:49.43 | Stevie | gnucap? |
| 01:50.07 | shogunx | yeah, that looks kind of cool. |
| 01:50.56 | shogunx | no, no don't bust a gnucap in that ass! |
| 01:51.24 | shogunx | bahaha |
| 01:51.33 | turiddu | i have a question about tcpdump |
| 01:51.36 | turiddu | when i use it |
| 01:51.44 | Stevie | so don't use it and you won't have a question? |
| 01:51.47 | turiddu | ill see my address coming up 100s of times real quick like im packetting myself |
| 01:51.49 | recall | gnucap says it command drive...is there a frontend? |
| 01:51.55 | turiddu | why is this? |
| 01:52.00 | Stevie | turiddu: Are you running it remotely, e.g. via ssh? |
| 01:52.11 | shogunx | recall oregano it looks like. |
| 01:52.35 | Stevie | how do you have CLI circuit design software |
| 01:52.59 | shogunx | with a vivid imagination. |
| 01:53.06 | Stevie | gnucap --resistor 4k --cap 1uf |
| 01:53.33 | shogunx | whats that, an uberferad? |
| 01:53.45 | bztunk | quitte: ever head of 'backups'? |
| 01:54.03 | Stevie | backups are for people who don't use sid |
| 01:54.08 | Stevie | oh wait |
| 01:54.19 | bztunk | why wouldn't you backup yourimportant stuff before doing something as critical |
| 01:54.23 | recall | Stevie, uh...yeah, you've heard of SPICE? |
| 01:54.27 | bztunk | as growing an fs |
| 01:54.28 | spanglesontoast | is there a way of listing every package installed? |
| 01:54.36 | Stevie | dpkg -l |
| 01:54.40 | Stevie | with some grepping |
| 01:54.42 | spanglesontoast | ah :| |
| 01:55.07 | spanglesontoast | darn ssh doesn't allow me to see everything |
| 01:55.08 | shogunx | bztunk temporal chronic cranial rectal inversion syndrome. |
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| 01:55.19 | qwerty | ??? |
| 01:55.43 | bztunk | ?? |
| 01:55.54 | spanglesontoast | and also why doesn't the packages get removed properly |
| 01:56.00 | shogunx | thats why you would NOT backup. |
| 01:56.08 | bztunk | haha |
| 01:56.12 | bztunk | why temporal :D |
| 01:56.34 | shogunx | well, he is probably not like that all the time. |
| 01:56.46 | pyroplasm | spanglesontoast: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l probably? |
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| 01:57.32 | qwerty | I'm curious, how much RAM does a typical debian install use? |
| 01:58.01 | spanglesontoast | anything more simple than aptitude |
| 01:58.01 | spanglesontoast | ? |
| 01:58.25 | bztunk | qwerty: one billiooooon!!!! |
| 01:58.42 | cat | lol |
| 01:58.47 | cat | !ram |
| 01:58.47 | dpkg | methinks ram is (Random Access Memory) The place in your computer that programs reside when running. or usually small but very fast storage device, or unused ram is _wasted_! ram!, or a male sheep |
| 01:59.08 | bztunk | haha a male sheep |
| 01:59.12 | bztunk | never tought of that one |
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| 01:59.27 | qwerty | cos mine is using 43MB |
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| 01:59.38 | bztunk | dpkg, ram is also a type of car |
| 01:59.38 | dpkg | okay, bztunk |
| 01:59.47 | recall | qwerty, what's a typical debian install? Is there such a thing? |
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| 02:00.15 | qwerty | how much doe debian usually use?, I should have said |
| 02:00.17 | bztunk | qwerty: unused ram is wasted ram, so who cares |
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| 02:00.22 | qwerty | how much dose debian usually use?, I should have said |
| 02:00.29 | Stevie-O | that was unpleassant |
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| 02:00.36 | zinx | qwerty: depends on what you install |
| 02:00.37 | Stevie-O | my wrt crashed |
| 02:00.38 | dli | does nvidia-kernel-source work with gcc-4.0.3-1 ? |
| 02:00.45 | bztunk | qwerty: linux will use the most ram it can |
| 02:00.51 | bztunk | qwerty: for things like IO cache |
| 02:01.19 | qwerty | that is strange cos mine is using 43MB out of 256MB |
| 02:01.40 | recall | top says i'm using about 630 MB, of my 640. |
| 02:01.58 | qwerty | what are you running? |
| 02:02.45 | mentor | !free ram |
| 02:02.45 | dpkg | Most modern operating systems try aggressively to use free physical memory for disk caching, but release it when actually needed by programs. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. |
| 02:02.52 | zinx | linux is eating all but 32MB of my 2GB :D (1.5GB actually free, though) |
| 02:03.22 | recall | KDE 3.4.3, Konqueror with about 15 tabs open, Thunderbird, amaroK, Gaim, X-Chat and 2 Konsoles.. |
| 02:03.36 | qwerty | :-/ |
| 02:03.40 | recall | I assume most of it is ate up in those extra tabs. |
| 02:04.04 | intx | 29172kb |
| 02:04.12 | recall | Then again, top says Konq. only is using 10%. |
| 02:04.13 | intx | free(1) |
| 02:04.18 | bztunk | wowi'm using 980mb out of 1G |
| 02:04.42 | bztunk | my ram is used for a good cause, woowoo |
| 02:04.50 | abrotman | i'm using 12 |
| 02:05.04 | recall | 12Gs? =) |
| 02:05.17 | abrotman | 12 nibbles |
| 02:05.38 | bztunk | without cache and buffers i'm only using 170mb |
| 02:05.56 | qwerty | 43 MB is what my memory usage monitor says.... |
| 02:06.14 | qwerty | But 240MB is what top says |
| 02:06.19 | unix_infidel | how do i make the icons in evolution smaller. |
| 02:06.22 | unix_infidel | or change them all together? |
| 02:07.35 | qwerty | nevermind.... ..... ..... ..... ..... |
| 02:07.43 | recall | What's the biggest bottleneck on program startup time? |
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| 02:09.13 | abrotman | depends on the program |
| 02:09.36 | recall | Yeah, well, lets assume Window Managers, Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution, Open Office... |
| 02:09.54 | abrotman | disk is usually a bottleneck |
| 02:10.14 | dli | which package for apt-setup? |
| 02:10.41 | recall | that's what I would assume, but why is my computer several times slower than newer computer, where HD tech hasn't gotten drastically faster over the last 5 years.. |
| 02:10.46 | Miesco_ | How would I run a .bin program that needs GUI to install something globally? |
| 02:10.52 | qwerty | putting /usr and /bin on ramdisks will speed things up a lot though... |
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| 02:12.19 | Miesco_ | nv |
| 02:12.19 | dvs | hallo |
| 02:12.26 | Miesco_ | nm |
| 02:12.36 | qwerty | correction, hello |
| 02:12.54 | pete_ | hullo |
| 02:13.04 | recall | howlo? |
| 02:13.13 | qwerty | unless you're american... |
| 02:13.20 | dvs | wassup |
| 02:13.44 | Miesco_ | a;lsdjfasd;lfkjasd |
| 02:13.59 | Miesco_ | I made jxplorer install to /usr/local and it MESSED IT UP |
| 02:14.02 | recall | qwerty, are you implying americans accent hello to hallo? |
| 02:14.13 | qwerty | no, |
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| 02:16.30 | Miesco_ | Can you use the find command non recursively? |
| 02:17.14 | pyroplasm | Miesco_: -maxdepth 1 |
| 02:17.17 | dvs | Miesco_: it's called "ls" ;-) |
| 02:17.27 | shai | how can i get rsync to connect to a different service on the host machine? |
| 02:17.34 | Miesco_ | I need to find the files that were created in the last 10 minutes |
| 02:17.37 | shai | so when i do ; rsync -azv rsync://hostpc/data ; i want to change the rsync to rsyncro .. or rw depends on what i need. |
| 02:17.39 | Miesco_ | emgergency |
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| 02:18.17 | Miesco_ | find . -maxdepth 1 -cmin -10 |
| 02:18.20 | Miesco_ | That lists then... |
| 02:18.23 | Miesco_ | them |
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| 02:19.05 | yosarrian | What program controls the font size of the menus in Mozilla Firefox? I noticed that gtk-theme-switch2 changes the colours of the window in Firefox but not the menu font size. |
| 02:19.33 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 02:19.34 | dpkg | hmm... tetrinet is multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 02:19.48 | shogunx | recall the speed difference could have quite a bit to do with the processors cache also. |
| 02:20.13 | ansi | doesn't firefox use qt as the default wiget set?? |
| 02:20.29 | pyroplasm | yosarrian: click on the + next to the drop-down list in gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 02:20.30 | recall | yosarrian, the last I looked...it was buried in a config file. I switched to Konqueror and only use FF for the stuff that doesn't work. |
| 02:20.50 | Miesco_ | nvm, I did it |
| 02:20.51 | recall | pyroplasm, it doesn't use that font. |
| 02:20.52 | iter | apt-get install internet explorer |
| 02:21.05 | shogunx | !smack iter |
| 02:21.18 | yosarrian | pyroplasm: I've changed the font, it doesn't affect Firefox. |
| 02:21.23 | iter | apt-get install .net framework |
| 02:21.34 | shogunx | !root iter |
| 02:21.34 | recall | shogunx, it must be that in combination with FSB speed. |
| 02:21.37 | abrotman | iter: apt-get install mono |
| 02:21.41 | iter | this "debian" thing doesn't run my favorite software! |
| 02:21.48 | iter | apt-get install real player |
| 02:21.50 | iter | ahhh |
| 02:21.57 | abrotman | iter: apt-get install helix-player |
| 02:22.01 | shogunx | apt-get remove iter |
| 02:22.07 | ansi | lol |
| 02:22.08 | iter | yeah I was joking about the realplayre |
| 02:22.13 | abrotman | i wasn't |
| 02:22.22 | abrotman | even though helix-player doesn't include real codecs |
| 02:22.28 | iter | I hate that sw with a passion |
| 02:22.32 | shogunx | it includes fake ones? |
| 02:22.46 | ansi | is MPEG propietry? |
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| 02:22.56 | abrotman | ansi: which MPEG? |
| 02:23.02 | abrotman | shogunx: the real media codecs |
| 02:23.08 | ansi | #1 |
| 02:23.10 | recall | is there a good solution for playing embedded videos...in Konqueror or Firefox? |
| 02:23.19 | shogunx | abrotman j/k |
| 02:23.23 | pyroplasm | yosarrian: try gnome-control-center |
| 02:23.25 | bztunk | recall: mozilla-mplayer |
| 02:23.30 | ansimation | huh? |
| 02:23.32 | Miesco_ | What is DN? |
| 02:23.32 | abrotman | !info mozilla-mplayer sarge |
| 02:23.33 | ansimation | oh, another ansi |
| 02:23.35 | dpkg | mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 94 kB, Installed size: 304 kB |
| 02:23.44 | bztunk | recall: you need mplayer from marillat |
| 02:24.00 | abrotman | any of you ever mucked with gazpacho? or maybe even glade? |
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| 02:24.56 | recall | thanks bztunk, abrotman |
| 02:25.01 | hazard_ | I've got a question about CLI autologin, any takers? |
| 02:25.30 | shogunx | hazard_ autologin sounds foolish to me. |
| 02:25.31 | recall | I assume Konqueror runs the plugin through its emulation of Mozilla's plugins? |
| 02:25.46 | hazard_ | its on a bootable CD, so it dosen't matter at all. |
| 02:25.47 | abrotman | hazard_: just ask |
| 02:25.59 | hazard_ | (not to mention that the system has _NO_ drives, so it matters even less) |
| 02:25.59 | shai | is there a need to refresh after editing /etc/services ? |
| 02:26.32 | bztunk | recall: would be logical |
| 02:26.55 | abrotman | shai: why would you edit that? |
| 02:26.59 | hazard_ | Well, I managed to get it to work, by editing inittab and changing one of the lines with getty in it to point to the login program and login as root (again, its a cd, so it can't do anything to the local system anyway) |
| 02:27.06 | hazard_ | And that worked. |
| 02:27.19 | hazard_ | But I've now noticed that on the console that logs in, ctrl-c dosen't work. |
| 02:28.32 | recall | hazard_, does ctrl-d? |
| 02:28.36 | shai | abrotman, cuz i want to have rsync and rsync-rw ... where rsync is for read-only access. |
| 02:28.44 | hazard_ | what's that supposed to do? |
| 02:28.58 | hazard_ | (I don't know, never tried) |
| 02:29.09 | recall | it's EOF...usually exits |
| 02:29.14 | hazard_ | ctrl-s does |
| 02:29.16 | recall | from the CL, anyway |
| 02:29.23 | hazard_ | yes, this is all CLI |
| 02:29.46 | hazard_ | the command its using to login is: /bin/login -f root tty1 |
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| 02:30.11 | shogunx | what does ctrl-s do? |
| 02:30.18 | hazard_ | nothing, whatsoever |
| 02:30.19 | dvs | shogunx: pause |
| 02:30.26 | hazard_ | no, wait |
| 02:30.30 | hazard_ | s!=c |
| 02:30.31 | dvs | hazard_: exactly |
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| 02:30.37 | shogunx | dvs similar to ctrl-z? |
| 02:30.38 | hazard_ | yes, ctrl-s pases |
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| 02:30.54 | hazard_ | no, ctrlz aborts to memory and lets you use the line again |
| 02:30.59 | dvs | shogunx: no, it pauses the display when text scrolls off the top |
| 02:31.11 | hazard_ | ctrl-s JUST pases (so you can scoll up without it pulling down) |
| 02:31.23 | ansi | shai: why are you using rsync? |
| 02:31.33 | shogunx | dvs ahhh! locks the console too, eh? until ctrl-q? |
| 02:31.35 | brownie17 | is anyone here familiar with "Module-assistant"? i'm trying to get ALSA working |
| 02:31.41 | dvs | shogunx: yup |
| 02:31.42 | shai | ansi, to backup. |
| 02:31.52 | shai | hot backup. |
| 02:32.00 | ansi | over a network?? |
| 02:32.04 | shai | yes. |
| 02:32.13 | dvs | brownie17: why the heck do you need module-assisstant to get ALSA working? |
| 02:32.21 | ansi | with other users on it? |
| 02:32.27 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 02:32.28 | dpkg | hmm... module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 02:32.30 | shai | yes. |
| 02:32.39 | brownie17 | dvs, dunno, some guide from google told me i needed to select my sound card in there or something |
| 02:32.50 | dvs | brownie17: what sound card do you have? |
| 02:32.54 | brownie17 | "Get module-assistant and run it and select the audio card from the list (you can fix an error here by running dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source)" |
| 02:33.12 | stoned | or apt-get intsall module-assistant && m-a prepare |
| 02:33.15 | brownie17 | dvs, it's on-board, "0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Sound Controller (rev a0" |
| 02:33.18 | ansi | rsync uses no encryption to encrypt data, use scp |
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| 02:33.35 | hazard_ | so, any ideas? |
| 02:33.42 | dvs | brownie17: did you try the ones built in the debian kernel first? |
| 02:33.55 | brownie17 | dvs, i'll be honest, i've no idea what i'm doing. NONE |
| 02:34.00 | shai | ansi, i don't need to encrypt the data on my network. |
| 02:34.20 | ansi | are the users trusted? |
| 02:34.35 | dvs | brownie17: I'd try the ones in the kernel first. What kernel are you running? |
| 02:34.36 | shai | i have not problem with encryption, i have a problem setting up two rsync services in inetd .... |
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| 02:34.43 | shai | ansi, yes. |
| 02:34.54 | ansi | oh, ok |
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| 02:35.43 | shai | rsync -azv rsync://hostpc/backup/data ; works great. |
| 02:35.48 | brownie17 | dvs, 2.4 i think |
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| 02:36.03 | brownie17 | dvs, i think i may have actually got it working without using module assistant |
| 02:36.04 | dvs | brownie17: /exec -o uname -r |
| 02:36.05 | lolinux | COMMON PROBLEMS OF SEX WITH CHILDREN |
| 02:36.05 | lolinux | A practical problem of sex with children is physical. |
| 02:36.05 | lolinux | It is very important to understand that adults are much bigger than kids. |
| 02:36.05 | lolinux | Obviously commmon sense must be used. |
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| 02:36.10 | shai | but i tried adding another service in indet and added it to servcies and then doing: |
| 02:36.21 | shai | rsync -azv rsync-rw://hostpc/backup/data ; does not work. |
| 02:36.22 | dvs | brownie17: you shouldn't need module assistant |
| 02:36.37 | brownie17 | dvs, okay. thanks |
| 02:37.30 | dick-richardson | I'm getting a 'launching http cache cleaner' program that launches intermittently...has anyone else run across the same? |
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| 02:39.29 | dvs | brownie17: What does "uname -r" say? |
| 02:39.44 | dvs | brownie17: or did you get it working? |
| 02:42.05 | brownie17 | dvs, god it working. thanks though |
| 02:42.29 | dvs | ok |
| 02:42.37 | brownie17 | can anyone tell me why when i try to copy an .avi from any dvd it gives me an input output error? |
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| 02:43.14 | somePriest | I have a CD burner, and a few files (not ISO) that I want to burn to disc. Is there a very simple way to burn the files? |
| 02:43.33 | shogunx | somePriest mkisofs + cdrecord |
| 02:43.53 | kevix | brownie17: its good to show what command you are using |
| 02:44.08 | somePriest | shogunx, That would require scsi support in the kernel? I probably don't have that. |
| 02:44.52 | brownie17 | kevix, sorry, "sudo cp /media/cdrom1/ /home/video" |
| 02:45.07 | shogunx | somePriest ide-scsi emulation, tho i think the 2.6 series of kernels changed that. |
| 02:45.11 | brownie17 | kevix, even when i do it through the file browser, it still doesn't work |
| 02:45.21 | brownie17 | kevix, it'll get halfway through a file and then jam |
| 02:45.45 | abrotman | somePriest: which kernel? |
| 02:45.45 | shogunx | brownie17 scratch on the dvd? |
| 02:45.53 | somePriest | shogunx, Any idea of the module name? Or maybe if I just used apt to install the kernel it'd have it. |
| 02:46.18 | somePriest | abrotman, 2.6.8-2-386, and I *think* I installed it with apt-get. |
| 02:46.23 | shogunx | somePriest ide-scsi on the 2.4 |
| 02:46.24 | abrotman | you don't need ide-scsi |
| 02:46.30 | abrotman | somePriest: do you have X ? |
| 02:46.31 | hazard_ | ctrl-d works.... |
| 02:46.34 | somePriest | abrotman, Yes. |
| 02:46.38 | hazard_ | its so weird that ctrl-c dosen't |
| 02:46.40 | brownie17 | shogunx, nope, tried a few dvd's with .AVI's on them. all freshly burnt |
| 02:46.42 | abrotman | somePriest: gnome? kde? what? |
| 02:46.53 | somePriest | abrotman, Neither, icewm. |
| 02:46.56 | shogunx | brownie17 got a swap partition? |
| 02:47.06 | brownie17 | shogunx, nope, used to though and it didn't work then either |
| 02:47.08 | abrotman | somePriest: well .. gnomebaker and k3b are nice .. too bad eroaster is gone |
| 02:47.14 | shogunx | abrotman graveman or k3b should do it, eh? |
| 02:47.16 | kevix | brownie17: do you have permissions to the source and dest dir? |
| 02:47.28 | somePriest | abrotman, Are these directions correct: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/mailing-list/2001-06/1072.html |
| 02:47.29 | abrotman | shogunx: i prefer gnomebaker .. but sure |
| 02:47.34 | brownie17 | kevix, sorry, don't know what they are, but shouldn't sudo take care of that? |
| 02:47.47 | abrotman | somePriest: apt-get install gnomebaker .. run it .. configure it .. burn |
| 02:48.02 | shogunx | brownie17 no swap partition? how much physical ram/how large a file? |
| 02:48.05 | somePriest | abrotman, Ok, thank you. |
| 02:48.06 | kevix | brownie17: yea. how about size? what does 'df -m' show? |
| 02:48.36 | brownie17 | shogunx, i have about 700 meg ram, i think the files are about 200 meg each |
| 02:48.41 | shogunx | brownie17 when you run out of memory with no swap partion bad things happen. |
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| 02:49.04 | brownie17 | kevix, just df -m in the location of the cd? |
| 02:49.16 | bztunk | shogunx: when you run out of memory and swap bad things happens too |
| 02:49.26 | somePriest | abrotman, Doh, can you recommend a mirror that has it, mine hasn't (http://debian.yorku.ca) |
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| 02:49.48 | shogunx | bztunk for sure, but that does not happen often unless you have an app with a memory leak, or a very busy mysql server. |
| 02:50.03 | bztunk | shogunx: could say the same if you have tons of RAM |
| 02:50.16 | brownie17 | shogunx, well i used to have a swap partition when i used ubuntu, and when i installed debian they said it for experts only. i dunno. i figured it might be harder to set up on debian or something |
| 02:50.16 | kevix | brownie17: df shows data for all partitions. like the dest. dir. |
| 02:50.30 | brownie17 | kevix, well how can i paste it to you? pastebin? |
| 02:50.49 | shogunx | bztunk notwithstanding under reasonable conditions it shouldn't happen. |
| 02:50.57 | kevix | brownie17: use #flood |
| 02:51.19 | bztunk | shogunx: my point is, it's not 512mb of swap that will save you if you have 4G of ram |
| 02:51.36 | rcorsaro | I can't seem to run a script at the beginning of an X session. I have tried .xsession .xinitrc and .Xresources and none work. I am using etch. What am I doing wrong? |
| 02:51.44 | shogunx | bztunk no, but a nice little 9gig scsi only for swap would. |
| 02:51.54 | abrotman | why doesn't windows have bash! |
| 02:52.00 | rcorsaro | Also, I am using gdm and fluxbox. |
| 02:52.16 | kevix | brownie17: have you tried to copy the files, one at a time? |
| 02:52.20 | brownie17 | kevix, yes |
| 02:52.27 | shogunx | abrotman windows is not smart enough, so we have to chopper it in with cygwin? |
| 02:52.31 | brownie17 | kevix, and i've tried just opening them from the dvd. nothing works |
| 02:52.54 | abrotman | shogunx: it's 11pm .. my boss is about to send me to files to diff .. how messed is that ... |
| 02:53.04 | bztunk | shogunx: that's a waste of hard disk space lol |
| 02:53.04 | abrotman | two files |
| 02:53.14 | bztunk | shogunx: only for a 'what if' occasion |
| 02:53.14 | shogunx | abrotman bill him. |
| 02:53.23 | abrotman | shogunx: no .. boss .. president .. i'm not hourly :) |
| 02:53.40 | dvs | abrotman: is you boss brain dead? Oh wait a minute. Trick question |
| 02:53.46 | abrotman | shogunx: boss was not at the client i was at today .. and i edited a file in the testing env .. but apparently .. timestamps matter or some crap |
| 02:53.46 | shogunx | bztunk 9gig drives are cheap these days, particularly if you can afford 4 gigs of ram. |
| 02:54.01 | abrotman | nevermind the file contents are identical |
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| 02:54.10 | rcorsaro | Anyone use fluxbox? |
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| 02:54.20 | shogunx | abrotman bill him anyway. |
| 02:54.38 | shogunx | :) |
| 02:55.16 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:55.21 | shogunx | abrotman i recommend the full bofh archives as training material on how tomaster the boss. |
| 02:55.24 | abrotman | rcorsaro: people in #fluxbox do! |
| 02:55.42 | abrotman | shogunx: they didn't tell me i wasn't allowed to add a debug line to those testing files .. bastards |
| 02:55.48 | yosarrian | Must I use a desktop environment such as GNOME or KDE to have icons on my desktop |
| 02:55.53 | yosarrian | +? |
| 02:56.02 | rcorsaro | abrotman: ha, good point. I was hoping to get help here because I never had this problem with any other distro |
| 02:56.20 | rcorsaro | abrotman: I know that sometimes debian does things differently |
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| 02:56.36 | shogunx | abrotman tell them you were allowed implicitly due to the standard software development practices act of 1996 |
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| 02:56.47 | abrotman | rcorsaro: what problem ? |
| 02:56.59 | abrotman | shogunx: she has no sense of humor |
| 02:57.12 | shogunx | abrotman with a straight face:) |
| 02:57.15 | rcorsaro | abrotman: That neither .xinitrc nor .xsession is run at login |
| 02:57.33 | abrotman | rcorsaro: login of what? xdm gdm pdm ? |
| 02:57.39 | shogunx | abrotman or better yet, cite the gpl. |
| 02:57.47 | rcorsaro | abrotman: gdm |
| 02:58.18 | abrotman | rcorsaro: so what is it doing? |
| 02:58.50 | rcorsaro | abrotman: Just loading my window manager. But not running ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession |
| 02:58.52 | somePriest | abrotman, heh, burning 29mb. Only 181 minutes to go. |
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| 02:59.56 | rcorsaro | abrotman: I don't know what the default script is in Debian. If I could find it I could grok the code |
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| 03:00.22 | abrotman | rcorsaro: ok .. i'm confused .. what is in those files? |
| 03:00.29 | abrotman | somePriest: stop using floppies? |
| 03:00.56 | somePriest | abrotman, This is burning to CD using gnomebaker |
| 03:01.13 | shogunx | somePriest did you set it to 1x burn speed? |
| 03:01.26 | somePriest | abrotman, It was 40 seconds till I ran rdate. Now it reads over 100 mins (although it most certainly will be done in <60 seconds given the progress bar) |
| 03:01.33 | brownie17 | somePriest, it may be better quality burn, but 181 mins is a waste of time! |
| 03:01.34 | somePriest | shogunx, 4x, but its only 29mb |
| 03:01.44 | matej_ | is there some script which would mark in aptitude all packages on which some other package depends (I was playing with adept and lost all these marks)? |
| 03:01.54 | rcorsaro | abrotman: some dock apps and 'exec fluxbox' From what I understand, the system should look for my ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession, and if it doesn't find it, it should run the default. |
| 03:02.01 | dvs | somePriest: that should take just minutes |
| 03:02.11 | somePriest | dvs, "Should" indeed. |
| 03:02.40 | dvs | somePriest: the entire disk should take only 20 minutes |
| 03:02.41 | shogunx | somePriest what are rdate and gnomebaker nice values? |
| 03:02.45 | matej_ | something like deborphan stuffing aptitude with the result of its analysis ... |
| 03:02.47 | somePriest | Elapsed time is 484 minutes. |
| 03:02.51 | cht | how do i set my time to EST? |
| 03:02.54 | somePriest | shogunx, huh? |
| 03:03.08 | CaT[tm] | hey folks. why would squid not be able to determine the fully qualified hostname of the server it runs on? I've created reverse and fwd lookups for the ip, I've created an entry in /etc/hosts and yet it still complains. anyone know what I've missed? |
| 03:03.15 | shogunx | somePriest check man nice |
| 03:03.37 | matej_ | cht: whole computer -- tzconfig |
| 03:03.49 | cht | thanks |
| 03:03.51 | brownie17 | somePriest, it refers to the priority of the proceess |
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| 03:04.13 | abrotman | !.xinitrc |
| 03:04.13 | dpkg | well, .xinitrc is actually ~/.xinitrc, which is used for running X as startx, and ~/.xsession is for when using X from a Display Manager like xdm or kdm. discouraged in Debian, as if you just use ~/.xsession it will work from both startx and the display manager, as documented in startx(1) |
| 03:04.16 | abrotman | !.xsession |
| 03:04.17 | dpkg | from memory, .xsession is : see the "xsession" entry, and/or startx(1) |
| 03:04.19 | somePriest | shogunx, I'm not running anything else, nice'ness shouldn't come into play :) |
| 03:04.30 | somePriest | bronze, nice? Yes, I know. |
| 03:04.34 | abrotman | rcorsaro: make sense? |
| 03:05.02 | shogunx | somePriest oh. rdate. funny. |
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| 03:05.14 | cht | matej_: how come it says EDT instead of EST ? |
| 03:05.27 | dvs | cht: daylight savings |
| 03:05.36 | matej_ | cht: EDT -- Eastern Daylightsavings Time |
| 03:05.40 | cht | oh ic |
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| 03:06.12 | somePriest | shogunx, But rdate finished quickly. I don't think the adjusted time in rdate made up for the time that gnamebaker was off. |
| 03:06.18 | rcorsaro | abrotman: Sure makes sense and sure doesn't work. I got help in #fluxbox, thanks anyway |
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| 03:07.27 | cht | why do they release new kernel like every 3 days? |
| 03:07.30 | abrotman | rcorsaro: what?! .. you abandoned us?! |
| 03:07.36 | dvs | cht: fixes |
| 03:07.44 | dvs | cht: look at the change log |
| 03:08.05 | stew | !testing security |
| 03:08.05 | dpkg | well, testing security is Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/ , but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ , ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key> |
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| 03:08.20 | shogunx | somePriest you changed the date, and make a funny about the time in a burner app getting borked? and are you sure you are not running anything else? like, the gui, init, or klogd? |
| 03:08.25 | rcorsaro | rbrotman: It was your idea!!! |
| 03:09.07 | stew | !no testing security is Put "deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in testing. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade". |
| 03:09.07 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 03:09.11 | stew | yay |
| 03:09.17 | somePriest | shogunx, I did not change the date, only adjusted the time. |
| 03:09.23 | somePriest | shogunx, And not by 181 minutes :) |
| 03:09.42 | cht | is it safe to install limewire? |
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| 03:09.56 | abrotman | rcorsaro: what did they tell you? |
| 03:09.59 | shogunx | somePriest you should now pray on the non-linearity of time. |
| 03:10.50 | abrotman | !be a gazpacho barbie |
| 03:10.50 | dpkg | Aww, gazpacho is HARD! Let's go shopping, abrotman |
| 03:10.54 | abrotman | dpkg: i love you |
| 03:10.54 | dpkg | The feeling's not mutual |
| 03:11.08 | abrotman | dpkg: that's not very nice |
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| 03:11.18 | dvs | dpkg: shut up |
| 03:11.18 | dpkg | Kiss my shiny metal ass! |
| 03:11.25 | stew | gazpacho is actually not hard. put some tomatoes/onions/cucumbers/tobasco into a blender |
| 03:11.36 | rcorsaro | abrotman: Use .fluxbox/startup . Which still doesn't answer my question, but gets the job done nicely. |
| 03:11.46 | abrotman | stew: it won't let me resize stuff |
| 03:12.00 | abrotman | rcorsaro: oh .. it was starting fluxbox .. but not the items after that ... |
| 03:12.11 | shogunx | stew if you let it sit on top of a pentium4 for several hours, it might become hard. |
| 03:12.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: do you have an OSX mac? |
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| 03:12.24 | rcorsaro | abrotman: yup |
| 03:12.33 | kepht | http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/12/D8HIEF100.html <-- Ridiculously large passenger ship!!! |
| 03:12.42 | abrotman | rcorsaro: i think there's a trick |
| 03:12.43 | rcorsaro | abrotman: nope, well. It wasn't running .xsession at all |
| 03:12.50 | abrotman | kepht: yes .. it is .. |
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| 03:12.58 | abrotman | rcorsaro: was the file +x ? |
| 03:12.59 | rcorsaro | abrotman: fluxbox is my default wm |
| 03:13.02 | sid | !start a distro war |
| 03:13.03 | dpkg | Kubuntu owns! |
| 03:13.03 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 03:13.04 | kepht | oops, that wasn't debian related |
| 03:13.10 | sid | !greet jeffrin |
| 03:13.10 | dpkg | Moo, jeffrin |
| 03:13.10 | rcorsaro | abrotman: It certainly was! |
| 03:13.26 | rcorsaro | abrotman: is |
| 03:13.35 | cht | is it safe to install limewire? |
| 03:13.43 | sid | cht: no...spyware |
| 03:13.50 | jeffrin | while using apt , i get error related to saying no public key available |
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| 03:14.22 | sid | !tell jeffrin about 2006 key |
| 03:14.24 | seb- | !simple sid backport |
| 03:14.24 | dpkg | from memory, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 03:14.27 | abrotman | rcorsaro: just making sure |
| 03:14.45 | rcorsaro | abrotman: I am coming from Slackware. I've set it up a bunch of times. Debian seems confusing, but it sure takes away alot of work. |
| 03:15.06 | owenh | I can't get Debian 31r0a amd64 on DVD to install; I keep getting md5sum errors. I know the CD is okay, the md5sums are correct when reading it in Fedora on the same system. The installer will scan the DVD but not load installer components or do a successful integrity check. |
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| 03:16.25 | abrotman | rcorsaro: really .. i guess i've been using it a while .. but seems pretty darn easy to me :) |
| 03:16.43 | abrotman | owenh: at what speed do you burn it? |
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| 03:17.13 | owenh | Ah, 4x I think. It works great in an emulator... |
| 03:17.17 | rcorsaro | abrotman: It is extremely easy until something doesn't work |
| 03:17.39 | rcorsaro | abrotman: It is very complicated under the hood |
| 03:17.40 | abrotman | rcorsaro: but it always works! |
| 03:17.40 | owenh | md5sums work fine outside of the installer. |
| 03:17.52 | rcorsaro | abrotman: except .xsession |
| 03:18.05 | abrotman | rcorsaro: dunno .. mine works .. which is why i asked about +x .. |
| 03:18.32 | rcorsaro | abrotman: I know, it has to be me. I just can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. |
| 03:18.51 | abrotman | rcorsaro: what was in the file ? |
| 03:19.02 | Red_Cloud | abrotman, upon your recommendation, I am studying up to be able to create a firewall using iptables. I am currently studying http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html#TCPCHARACTERISTICS This is a very informative manual and will take me quite some time to puzzle. I have a working firewall with fwbuilder but the challenge presented by iptables is very exciting. Thanks for the advice and direction. |
| 03:19.24 | abrotman | Red_Cloud: it's always good to learn :) |
| 03:19.31 | Stevie-O | that's gotta be the longest line i've ever seen that wasn't said by dpkg |
| 03:19.34 | Stevie-O | in here |
| 03:19.45 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:19.53 | abrotman | Stevie-O: what .. you don't converse with nvz? |
| 03:20.02 | owenh | abrotman: When I used Ctrl+Alt+F4 I saw I/O errors as well... |
| 03:20.03 | rcorsaro | wmxmms, wmxres, wmweather, mwcpuload, wmget dock, wmmemmon, root-tail /var/log/messages, exec fluxbox (all except last with &) |
| 03:20.12 | cht | is there any way to know what/which package i last installed? |
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| 03:20.57 | abrotman | owenh: i know it's a DVD .. but try burning slower .. i know with CDR/CDRW if you burn at more than 16x .. they rarely work |
| 03:21.07 | abrotman | cht: in sarge or etch/sid ? |
| 03:21.15 | rcorsaro | :s/\smw/\swm/ |
| 03:21.18 | acetech | is it my installation in particualar or are other people experiencing a problem with the gnome toaster? |
| 03:21.29 | abrotman | owenh: i odn't know if DVDR has the same issue |
| 03:21.29 | cht | sarger2 |
| 03:21.30 | Stevie-O | hey Red_Cloud |
| 03:21.41 | abrotman | rcorsaro: in that order? |
| 03:21.48 | Red_Cloud | Stevie-O yes |
| 03:21.49 | owenh | abrotman: Even if it works fine on the same system running Fedora? |
| 03:21.50 | abrotman | cht: no .. etch/sid have that ability .. well .. actually |
| 03:21.51 | rcorsaro | abrotman: yes |
| 03:22.17 | cht | i see |
| 03:22.20 | owenh | abrotman: If I run the installer in an emulator, using the same DVD drive, everything works. |
| 03:22.29 | Stevie-O | Red_Cloud: You might wanna try running Ethereal, too. Just have it capture everything for a few minutes, you'll see a lot of handy stuff through it |
| 03:22.33 | cht | im getting this error while making xchat: *** Warning: Linking the shared library perl.la against the |
| 03:22.33 | cht | *** static library /usr/lib/perl/5.8/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a is not portable! |
| 03:22.33 | cht | gcc -shared .libs/perl.o -L/usr/local/lib /usr/lib/perl/5.8/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/lib/perl/5.8/CORE -lperl -lm -lpthread -lcrypt -ldl /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -Wl,-E -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,-soname -Wl,perl.so -o .libs/perl.so |
| 03:22.41 | Stevie-O | icmp, udp, tcp, arp, the works |
| 03:22.41 | abrotman | cht: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ .. and use some magic combo for ls |
| 03:22.54 | abrotman | rcorsaro: don't you have to exec fluxbox .. and then the rest? |
| 03:22.57 | acetech | does anyone here get a segmenatation fault when running gnome-toaster in etch? |
| 03:23.11 | owenh | abrotman: So I think it is somewhat system-specific. It is, by the way, on an amd64 system. |
| 03:23.20 | rcorsaro | abrotman: I can try |
| 03:23.23 | abrotman | owenh: ok . just a thought |
| 03:23.30 | abrotman | rcorsaro: it just seems weird |
| 03:23.36 | abrotman | though .. my .xsession has but one line :) |
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| 03:24.16 | abrotman | cht: never mind .. it doesn't work the way i thought it would |
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| 03:24.42 | cht | i see the files though |
| 03:24.54 | Red_Cloud | Stevie-O thanks for the advice. I have ethereal installed and have glanced at a bit. As you say it will be very handy for my interfaces and protocols. |
| 03:25.10 | abrotman | cht: yeah .. but the timestamp is the time from the archive .. not the one on your system |
| 03:25.12 | Stevie-O | You look closely enough and it'll tell you what every single bit means |
| 03:25.28 | abrotman | Stevie-O: jnettop! |
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| 03:26.30 | rcorsaro | naw, didn't work |
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| 03:27.26 | abrotman | !tell lgn21st about root |
| 03:27.48 | abrotman | rcorsaro: hrm .. well .. yep .. i'm stumped .. i wonder if ti's something with fluxbox .. or something with debian .. i know others have multiple lines in thier .xsession |
| 03:28.27 | shogunx | abrotman, jnettop... that is pretty slick. |
| 03:28.35 | abrotman | shogunx: and sick :) |
| 03:28.39 | sid | http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/secure-testing-announce/2006-May/000029.html |
| 03:28.42 | sid | testing security moving? |
| 03:28.49 | Stevie-O | Sometimes i just wanna forge my identd to be 'root' and join as many channels as possible |
| 03:28.50 | rcorsaro | abrotman: of course I'm still curious, but since I got it working with ~/.fluxbox/startup I wont lose any sleep |
| 03:29.08 | abrotman | rcorsaro: goodie .. now i won't cry |
| 03:29.17 | Stevie-O | i'm not totally with it. What's going on, rcorsaro? |
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| 03:29.35 | rcorsaro | abrotman: seems like gdm should pick up my .xsession and not the default |
| 03:30.00 | abrotman | rcorsaro: in gdm .. what did you pick for your "session" ? |
| 03:30.04 | rcorsaro | Stevie-O: gdm is not picking up my +x'd ~/.xsession |
| 03:30.19 | abrotman | Stevie-O: you shouldn't be drunk on irc! |
| 03:30.39 | Stevie-O | I shouldn't? |
| 03:30.54 | rcorsaro | abrotman: I never touched it. Maybe I need to. |
| 03:31.02 | brownie17 | Stevie-O, drugs are baaaaad |
| 03:31.06 | abrotman | rcorsaro: eh ... uhm |
| 03:31.13 | Stevie-O | rcorsaro: strace -e open,stat gdm? |
| 03:31.26 | abrotman | rcorsaro: i used to have two xsessions .. not anymore .. oh well |
| 03:31.35 | rcorsaro | Stevie-O: that sounds cool, how do I do that? |
| 03:31.36 | abrotman | wait .. i have some niftythingsomewhere |
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| 03:31.41 | shogunx | brownie17 i'm sorry you have been getting bad drugs. |
| 03:31.45 | Stevie-O | A Tale Of Two Xsessions |
| 03:32.05 | abrotman | rcorsaro: if you click session .. what is it set to ? |
| 03:32.09 | brownie17 | shogunx, lol, damn dealers ripping me off |
| 03:32.18 | rcorsaro | I'll brb and tell you |
| 03:32.24 | Stevie-O | rcorsaro: probably 'sudo -f -f -e trace=open,stat -o gdm.log gdm' |
| 03:32.27 | abrotman | should we tell him about xnest? |
| 03:32.44 | brownie17 | stevethat sounds like a good movie title |
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| 03:33.05 | seb- | abrotman: good news! |
| 03:33.12 | shogunx | abrotman heh... |
| 03:33.24 | abrotman | seb-: you saved a bunch of money on your car insurance? |
| 03:33.28 | Stevie-O | Good news everyone! |
| 03:33.34 | abrotman | Stevie-O: you got laid? |
| 03:33.41 | seb- | abrotman: instead of bitchin' that passwd was broken on testing i just did a sid backport to *testing* and it fixed it! |
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| 03:33.47 | jshriver | how do you run an x application from one machine on another? I've tired changing the DISPLAY variable. |
| 03:33.53 | abrotman | seb-: passwd was broken ? |
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| 03:34.03 | seb- | abrotman: actually pam_cracklib was |
| 03:34.11 | rcorsaro | Stevie-O: Would I have to change my run level first? |
| 03:34.11 | Stevie-O | crack |
| 03:34.12 | abrotman | it was? |
| 03:34.14 | sandman | I can't seem to be able to get nvidia kernel 6* to compile @ 2.6.15 kernel |
| 03:34.15 | Stevie-O | drugs are bad, mmmmkay? |
| 03:34.25 | shogunx | jshriver ssh -X with sshd_config on the remote host set to allow such. |
| 03:34.32 | dvs | Stevie-O: yes Mr. Mackie |
| 03:34.34 | rcorsaro | abrotman: still didn't work, I tried Default, Last and fluxbox |
| 03:34.35 | seb- | abrotman: no reason you can't backport to testing just like to stable! |
| 03:34.35 | sandman | Errors are consistent, and I can get them again, but I was wondering if anyone else had this issue |
| 03:34.37 | Stevie-O | rcorsaro: Debian doesn't use runlevels. Just kill off gdm and run that from one of the VCs |
| 03:34.45 | abrotman | seb-: good thinking! |
| 03:34.48 | Stevie-O | s/runlevels/runlevels to control X startup/ |
| 03:34.52 | jshriver | shogunx, remote host being the server or the client |
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| 03:34.55 | seb- | abrotman: you taught me everything i know! |
| 03:35.01 | rcorsaro | Stevie-O: show me the command again |
| 03:35.09 | Stevie-O | rcorsaro: probably 'sudo -f -f -e trace=open,stat -o gdm.log gdm' |
| 03:35.15 | brownie17 | Stevie-O, :D south park is one the greatest inventions of the western world. i have every single episode, tribute movie and pilot those guys made. |
| 03:35.17 | abrotman | seb-: better than teaching you everything i know :) |
| 03:35.22 | shogunx | jshriver, server... or the one you are not sitting at. |
| 03:35.27 | cht | !sarge |
| 03:35.27 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes, or the best thing since slice cheese. |
| 03:35.28 | jshriver | lol ok |
| 03:35.30 | jshriver | whereis is that? |
| 03:35.44 | shogunx | sshd_config? |
| 03:35.50 | jshriver | ok found it.. /etc/ssh.. |
| 03:35.55 | jshriver | what do I need to do to allow -X? |
| 03:36.10 | shogunx | jshriver X11Forwarding yes iirc |
| 03:36.13 | brownie17 | cht, it's suppossed to be sliced bread, not sliced cheese |
| 03:36.14 | jshriver | ok thanks |
| 03:36.28 | abrotman | !sshx |
| 03:36.28 | dpkg | hmm... sshx is Enable X11Forwarding **on the remote server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html |
| 03:37.05 | jshriver | X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. |
| 03:37.05 | jshriver | X connection to localhost:10.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
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| 03:37.48 | shogunx | jshriver, see dpkg factiod above specificallt the line about xauth. |
| 03:38.00 | jshriver | huh? re-reading.. |
| 03:38.08 | dli | the nvidia one-liner says, "nvidia-glx", while installing nvidia-glx will remove xserver-xorg |
| 03:38.25 | Stevie-O | lol |
| 03:38.39 | jshriver | tried "dpkg factoid xauth" gave error |
| 03:38.53 | shogunx | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.00 | jshriver | ok |
| 03:39.01 | jshriver | let me try |
| 03:39.24 | yosarrian | Is it possible to use a printer that is shared on a network by Windows? |
| 03:39.30 | shogunx | no. no try. do or do not. |
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| 03:39.37 | Stevie-O | via samba, if you have a suitable driver |
| 03:39.37 | abrotman | yosarrian: yes |
| 03:39.41 | abrotman | smbprint |
| 03:40.37 | Halitherses | I have a problem installing php. When try to load http://localhost/phpinfo.php firefox asks if me if i want to open it with gedit. I am using etch. How can i fix this problem? |
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| 03:40.54 | Halitherses | !php |
| 03:40.54 | dpkg | php is probably not asp. Can't get php to work? Remember that php3 looks for the extension .php3 ! .php is for php4 To change this, edit the mime type in httpd.conf. Get php4-mysql if you want mysql support too, or oh, and make sure to uncomment the php module from httpd.conf !!, or for php4, make sure this line is in httpd.conf: LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so, or remember, there are quite a few debian users in #php, or puke |
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| 03:41.58 | rcorsaro | Stevie-O: now what do I look for in the trace? |
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| 03:42.30 | abrotman | Halitherses: clear your cache .. restart the browser .. try again |
| 03:42.37 | Stevie-O | rcorsaro: file opens |
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| 03:42.48 | Stevie-O | See if it tries to open anything named 'xsession' |
| 03:43.36 | rcorsaro | Stevie-O: nope, but it does /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, Im gonna take a look in there |
| 03:43.49 | Stevie-O | there ya go |
| 03:43.53 | Stevie-O | This is why I love strace |
| 03:43.59 | rcorsaro | Stevie-O: There is also alot of pam security stuff |
| 03:44.21 | jshriver | ok keep getting this error |
| 03:44.22 | jshriver | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.29 | Halitherses | abrotman, I tried that. I still have the same problem. |
| 03:44.45 | abrotman | Halitherses: how did you install php ? |
| 03:44.52 | Stevie-O | rcorsaro: Yeah, and shared library stuff too. The SNR's not very good. |
| 03:44.58 | Halitherses | apt-get install php4 |
| 03:45.30 | Stevie-O | apt-get remove --purge php4; apt-get install perl |
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| 03:45.41 | brownie17 | does anyone know why AVI's will not work at all? |
| 03:45.47 | Stevie-O | not even in vlc? |
| 03:45.55 | brownie17 | everytime i try to open one i get an input output error |
| 03:45.57 | abrotman | dpkg: no php is for apache1: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4, apache2: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4, if your browser tries to download them, try to clear your cache & restart your browser & try again. |
| 03:45.57 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 03:46.10 | abrotman | Halitherses: apache1 or 2 ? |
| 03:46.30 | abrotman | dpkg: php is also http://www.php.net/ |
| 03:46.30 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
| 03:46.34 | Halitherses | 1.3 |
| 03:46.35 | abrotman | dpkg: php is also #php |
| 03:46.35 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 03:46.42 | abrotman | Halitherses: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 03:46.48 | abrotman | !php |
| 03:46.48 | dpkg | i heard php is for apache1: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4, apache2: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4, if your browser tries to download them, try to clear your cache & restart your browser & try again. http://www.php.net/, or #php |
| 03:47.29 | shogunx | jshriver 192.168.1.100 is the ip of the box you are working from or connecting to? |
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| 03:47.44 | jshriver | it's my desktop.. 101 is the one serving |
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| 03:48.25 | shogunx | jshriver and X is running on your desktop, i assume. are you logged into both amchines as the same user? |
| 03:48.34 | jshriver | yes |
| 03:48.58 | shogunx | jshriver, and xauth is installed on both boxen? |
| 03:49.13 | jshriver | yes it is now |
| 03:49.19 | jshriver | xbase-utils |
| 03:49.38 | shogunx | hmmm. |
| 03:50.02 | jshriver | but I just installed xbase-utils on the server. what do I need to do to xauth |
| 03:50.29 | shogunx | jshriver to the best of my knowledge you should have to do nothing to it. |
| 03:50.37 | jshriver | ok restarted ssh |
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| 03:51.12 | shogunx | jshriver that might be it. |
| 03:51.30 | jshriver | my desktop has this |
| 03:51.32 | jshriver | /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt |
| 03:51.37 | jshriver | how do I get rid of the -nolisten |
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| 03:51.50 | gpm | anyone on sid have xgl/compiz working? if so, can you point me to a good howto or guide me through it? |
| 03:51.50 | Halitherses | abrotman, still does not work |
| 03:51.56 | abrotman | dpkg: no php is PHP is #php or http://www.php.net/. Common installation methods include libapache-mod-php4(for apache1), libapache2-mod-php4(for apache2), php4-cli(CGI). PHP5 now in etch/sid |
| 03:51.56 | dpkg | abrotman: I think you lost me on that one |
| 03:52.11 | abrotman | dpkg: no php is #php or http://www.php.net/. Common installation methods include libapache-mod-php4(for apache1), libapache2-mod-php4(for apache2), php4-cli(CGI). PHP5 now in etch/sid |
| 03:52.11 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 03:52.17 | abrotman | Halitherses: do you have an error? |
| 03:52.24 | abrotman | Halitherses: or just downloadin git |
| 03:52.50 | shogunx | jshriver where did that come from? |
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| 03:52.53 | Halitherses | it asks me if i want to open with gedit |
| 03:53.12 | jshriver | ps aux | grep X |
| 03:53.29 | jshriver | hrm.. well seems to semi work now |
| 03:53.40 | jshriver | can use mplayer to play video from my video capturing device over the network :) sweet |
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| 03:53.44 | jshriver | just no sound and seems a little lagged |
| 03:53.48 | abrotman | Halitherses: and you installed libapache-mod-php4? |
| 03:53.57 | Halitherses | yes |
| 03:53.57 | abrotman | !php |
| 03:53.57 | dpkg | hmm... php is #php or http://www.php.net/. Common installation methods include libapache-mod-php4(for apache1), libapache2-mod-php4(for apache2), php4-cli(CGI). PHP5 now in etch/sid |
| 03:53.59 | shogunx | jshriver, probably in the gdm configs. |
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| 03:54.26 | abrotman | Halitherses: is this server accessible via the internet ? |
| 03:54.37 | Halitherses | no its just my local pc |
| 03:54.48 | abrotman | Halitherses: have you restarted apache? |
| 03:54.52 | shogunx | jshriver, the only time i have seen no listen tcp was in a font server. |
| 03:54.55 | Halitherses | ye si did |
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| 03:55.18 | abrotman | Halitherses: check the apache logs .. look for errors |
| 03:55.31 | shogunx | jshriver you are mplayering a /dev/video? |
| 03:56.11 | shogunx | a cam or a capture card? |
| 03:56.26 | jthill | Hallo all. I'm trying to install vmware tools on etch It won't configure, says it needs /usr/src/linux/include. I found http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/22369, which does a pretty good recap of the problem I'm having now. I've tried installing the kernel-headers packages I could find in synaptic, but vmware isn't not liking them no matter what I do -- and if it wants the headers for the running kernel I gue |
| 03:56.28 | Halitherses | abrotman, no errors in logs |
| 03:56.29 | jshriver | hauppauge vide capt |
| 03:56.32 | jshriver | WinTV Go |
| 03:56.44 | jshriver | shogunx, aye v4l2 /dev/video |
| 03:57.06 | lexiyntax | Halitherses: You did restart apache right? |
| 03:57.26 | Halitherses | yes i restarted apache: apachectl restart |
| 03:57.52 | abrotman | Halitherses: double check your httpd.conf .. make sure there is an AddType line for php |
| 03:57.53 | shogunx | jshriver i tried forever to get a vesa output from a usb cam but never got it to go right. |
| 03:58.05 | abrotman | Halitherses: IOW .. grep php /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 03:58.36 | abrotman | shogunx: do you think you could just shoot barry bonds? |
| 03:58.45 | jshriver | shogunx, hrm it's all working now.. just VERY slow.. lag in the a/v sync because it's trying to pipe raw video and raw audio over the network.. shrug.. but works lol |
| 03:58.55 | jshriver | shogunx, with mplayer? did you compile with vesa support? |
| 03:59.01 | shogunx | abrotman for how much? |
| 03:59.20 | abrotman | shogunx: the honor of baseball ... priceless |
| 03:59.55 | jshriver | now this works.. new question :) lol how do I get FM tuning working? this card has support and supposedly does the kernel. |
| 04:00.04 | shogunx | jshriver yeah, mplayer. it was on the same host i used to watch films while working in my lab, so -vo vesa worked for sure. |
| 04:00.34 | shogunx | abrotman i'll have to check with the asassins guild on that one. |
| 04:00.50 | abrotman | heh |
| 04:01.11 | Halitherses | abrotman, the addtype lines are there |
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| 04:01.32 | abrotman | lines? |
| 04:02.13 | abrotman | Halitherses: is there a LoadModule line also? |
| 04:02.34 | Halitherses | other lines are php3 and phps |
| 04:02.58 | abrotman | Halitherses: can you paste the entire contents of `grep php /etc/apache/httpd.conf` somewhere? |
| 04:02.59 | abrotman | !paste |
| 04:02.59 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 04:04.15 | shogunx | jshriver, i was trying to get this: http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/cam.html as a vesa output so i did not have the overhead for a security cam. |
| 04:04.53 | jshriver | nifty.. is that a live webcam? seems to be updating realtime :) nice |
| 04:04.59 | jshriver | lol is that tux? heh |
| 04:05.07 | shogunx | it is. |
| 04:05.35 | abrotman | shogunx: i didn't want to see your face! |
| 04:05.41 | abrotman | put it back on the bunny! |
| 04:05.51 | shogunx | heh |
| 04:06.11 | Halitherses | I founf the problem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2530 |
| 04:06.33 | abrotman | thought you said there were no errors |
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| 04:06.40 | abrotman | Halitherses: grep php /etc/apache/httpd.conf |
| 04:06.41 | shogunx | camserv is the package that does that. |
| 04:06.50 | Halitherses | i uncommented the the loadmodule |
| 04:06.54 | shogunx | dosen't work on msie tho:) |
| 04:06.59 | Halitherses | that produced the rrros |
| 04:07.22 | bucky | yawn |
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| 04:08.34 | Halitherses | results of grep: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2531 |
| 04:08.57 | abrotman | !find libphp4.so sarge |
| 04:09.05 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libphp4.so' (2): (/usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so) in web/libapache-mod-php4 ;; (/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so) in web/libapache2-mod-php4. |
| 04:09.12 | Halitherses | I'm using etch |
| 04:09.13 | abrotman | it should be looking there .. not in /etc/modules |
| 04:09.15 | abrotman | oh |
| 04:09.18 | abrotman | !find libphp4.so etch |
| 04:09.29 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libphp4.so' (2): (/usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so) in web/libapache-mod-php4 ;; (/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so) in web/libapache2-mod-php4. |
| 04:10.41 | abrotman | i wonder if you put the full path in .. if it will be fine |
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| 04:11.15 | abrotman | as in .. LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so |
| 04:11.21 | jthill | so of course the first thing I try *after* crawling on here works: reading dmesg to get the exact version number, then installing those headers ... which were on the CD, of course. *sigh*. |
| 04:11.35 | abrotman | jthill: doesn't that stink? |
| 04:12.15 | Halitherses | i restarted apache and browser still same problem |
| 04:12.38 | jthill | oh well. Got there, had fun, embarrassed myself. Good day. time to restart X, see it run at speed. |
| 04:12.39 | abrotman | did you cahnge that LoadModule line? |
| 04:13.14 | Halitherses | yes there error has gone but it still asks me if i want to open with gedit |
| 04:13.24 | abrotman | cleared your cache again? |
| 04:13.27 | abrotman | restarted browser ? |
| 04:13.27 | Halitherses | no |
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| 04:14.06 | jshriver | what programs do you use to use /dev/radio? |
| 04:14.16 | Halitherses | i cleared cache and restarted browser still same problem |
| 04:14.49 | Halitherses | module line LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so |
| 04:15.05 | abrotman | and no error in the logs .. at all / |
| 04:15.06 | abrotman | ? |
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| 04:16.05 | Halitherses | this is error in log: Cannot remove module mod_php4.c: not found in module list |
| 04:16.30 | abrotman | huh |
| 04:17.34 | abrotman | Halitherses: cd /usr/lib/apache/1.3/ && ls .. do you see the libphp4.so ? |
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| 04:18.23 | Halitherses | yes, the above error is put in log when i restart apache |
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| 04:19.18 | abrotman | Halitherses: and the above command? |
| 04:19.30 | Halitherses | the file is thre |
| 04:19.58 | abrotman | maybe ask #php .. if the file is there .. and you're telling it to load it .. i'm not sure what that mod_php4.c error is |
| 04:20.37 | mud | is it possible to get laptop battery info without acpi or apm? I had to turn off acpi to get wireless working and apm isnt supported |
| 04:21.04 | Halitherses | do i need to run apache-modconf |
| 04:21.40 | abrotman | i doubt it would hurt |
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| 04:23.40 | liable | mud: dont think so. |
| 04:23.47 | mud | d'oh |
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| 04:24.27 | dondelelcaro | Halitherses: when you've got the module loaded and working you shoudl be able to go wget -O- -S http://yourservername and see php. |
| 04:24.59 | shogunx | hey whoever at 66-191-255-170 still watching the cam... can you kill the browser tab/window? folks are trying to download 3rd world development info from that server. |
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| 04:26.47 | abrotman | shogunx: i posted it at slashdot |
| 04:26.58 | shogunx | i figured:) |
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| 04:27.17 | Halitherses | wget output http://channels.debian.net/paste/2532. |
| 04:27.20 | shogunx | ok... iptables time. |
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| 04:28.47 | dondelelcaro | Halitherses: modphp4 isn't loaded for whatever resaon... |
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| 04:29.02 | bnovc | how can i *upgrade* perl to >= 5.8.4 ? |
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| 04:29.19 | bnovc | i downloaded the .deb for 5.8.8 but it won't let me install/upgrader over my current package |
| 04:29.25 | bnovc | and of course the apt-get versions are outdated |
| 04:29.29 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: if you're running stable, you don't. |
| 04:29.37 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: if you're running unstable, you just apt-get upgrade;. |
| 04:29.50 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, that is the only package i want non-stable |
| 04:29.58 | bnovc | is it really not possible to do that? |
| 04:30.20 | bnovc | seems like this should be a 15 second process, download .deb, upgrade perl |
| 04:30.21 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: it's not because you're going to have to make sure that you also upgrade anything that depends on that particular libperl api as well. |
| 04:30.41 | shogunx | sorry 66-191-255-170, cameroon needs to know how to make looms. |
| 04:30.43 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, i'm confident nothing on my system requires a lower version of perl.. |
| 04:30.54 | bnovc | can i just force it somehow |
| 04:31.01 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: the very fact that you can't just install the deb should clue you into the fact that it doesn't. |
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| 04:31.15 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, i can't install it because debian wont let me |
| 04:31.20 | bnovc | not because other apps require 5.8.4 |
| 04:31.27 | dondelelcaro | !tell bnovc -about bat |
| 04:31.58 | dondelelcaro | and it's not Debian, it's dpkg in this case. Also known as the dependencies between the packages. |
| 04:32.38 | bnovc | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Mk2j6632.html |
| 04:33.01 | bnovc | it conflicts with itself |
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| 04:33.27 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: you need to install the new version of perl-base, perl-modules, and libperl as well. |
| 04:33.59 | bnovc | really wish i would have known this before i installed debian |
| 04:34.07 | brownie17 | i'm trying to set up a home network with a cat5e crossover network cable, but i don't really know how. i tried just simply plugging it in and starting both computers up, but it didn't work. any hints? |
| 04:34.09 | dondelelcaro | why do you want 5.8.8 in production anyway? the version of 5.8.4 that is in stable has all of the security fixes that you need. |
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| 04:34.43 | shogunx | brownie17 did you set the ip addresses and all? |
| 04:34.47 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, because the cpan packages i need to run require .5 or higher |
| 04:34.52 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: which cpan packages? |
| 04:35.01 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, POE::Component::OSCAR |
| 04:35.03 | brownie17 | shogunx, DHCP should do that automatically, no? |
| 04:35.19 | shogunx | brownie17 IF you have a dhcp server on one of the hosts. |
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| 04:35.33 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: uh... not according to its source code |
| 04:35.42 | brownie17 | shogunx, oh, how do i set one up on debian? |
| 04:35.53 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, according to its installer it does |
| 04:35.53 | brownie17 | or how do i check if i allready do have one set up? |
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| 04:36.15 | shogunx | brownie17 ps -e | grep dhcp |
| 04:36.22 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: the installer lies. |
| 04:36.32 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: and in any case, you don't want to install it that way. |
| 04:36.34 | bnovc | it actually wont install through cpan anyway |
| 04:36.46 | bnovc | why? |
| 04:36.51 | bnovc | Perl v5.8.5 required--this is only v5.8.4, stopped at ./Makefile.PL line 2. |
| 04:36.55 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: apt-get install dh-make-perl build-essential fakeroot; dh-make-perl --cpan --build POE::COmponent::Perl; |
| 04:36.59 | brownie17 | shogunx, showed nothing. this means i don't have one? is there a package that will set one up? |
| 04:37.11 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: yeah, just change the requirement in the Makefile.PL |
| 04:37.15 | dondelelcaro | s/CO/Co/ |
| 04:37.20 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, what does that do/how is it better? |
| 04:37.36 | shogunx | shogunx setup is apt-get install dhcp3-server and then edit /etc/dhcpd.conf |
| 04:37.51 | shogunx | brownie17 ^^ |
| 04:38.01 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: it suports removing the package, it actually depends on the right things, and you can later upgrade it. |
| 04:38.02 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, thanks for your help too, i really appreciate it |
| 04:38.12 | shogunx | brownie17, easier to manually setup the addresses in /etc/network/interfaces, however. |
| 04:38.14 | valdyn | shogunx: actually /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf |
| 04:38.16 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: change use 5.008005; to use 5.008004; |
| 04:38.16 | bnovc | so never use cpan directly? |
| 04:38.21 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: right. |
| 04:38.23 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, yea i just changed it manually |
| 04:38.46 | shogunx | valdyn hmm... i must be running an older version then. |
| 04:38.53 | bnovc | failed: apt-get install dh-make-perl build-essential fakeroot |
| 04:38.54 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: most of the time the cpan packages you want to use are already in Debian. In the few cases they're not, most of the time you should be asking yourself whether you want to be using that module at all. |
| 04:38.55 | bnovc | let me paste it.. |
| 04:39.04 | brownie17 | when you say edit /etc/dhcpd.conf, what exactly must i do? |
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| 04:39.11 | shogunx | valdyn, actually not running... this host is one i tested bootp thinclinets with. |
| 04:39.14 | valdyn | shogunx: that is 'dhcp-server' |
| 04:39.28 | valdyn | shogunx: which is version 2 |
| 04:39.29 | bnovc | http://rafb.net/paste/results/cc8EIH79.html |
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| 04:40.04 | valdyn | brownie17: that file is commented, and there's a manpage |
| 04:40.11 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: run apt-get -f install; to resolve whatever the issue is with libxft1 |
| 04:40.19 | shogunx | valdyn, dpkg -l | grep dhcp says just dhcp v 2.0pl5-19.4 |
| 04:40.21 | bnovc | thought it was bad to use -f? |
| 04:40.32 | brownie17 | valdyn, should it be simple? |
| 04:41.12 | valdyn | brownie17: yes |
| 04:41.33 | brownie17 | shogunx, you said there was an easier way, involving /etc/network/interfaces, what is this? |
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| 04:42.23 | shogunx | brownie17 just manually config your addresses. with this syntax: |
| 04:42.25 | shogunx | auto eth0 |
| 04:42.25 | shogunx | iface eth0 inet static |
| 04:42.26 | shogunx | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.26 | shogunx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:42.39 | shogunx | sorry. |
| 04:42.45 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: no... it just tells apt to fix the dependency problems. |
| 04:43.03 | dondelelcaro | (well, in this case, anyway) |
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| 04:43.13 | bnovc | dh-make-perl --cpan --build POE::COmponent::Perl |
| 04:43.13 | shogunx | thought that would produce 1 line. |
| 04:43.16 | bnovc | did you mean ::OSCAR ? |
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| 04:43.41 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: yes, and Component too |
| 04:43.47 | bnovc | yep did that :) thanks its working |
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| 04:43.54 | dondelelcaro | the link here is seriously laggy, unfortunatly. |
| 04:44.06 | bnovc | "Can't find '--build' module on CPAN' |
| 04:44.12 | bnovc | oh well i can google some more from here |
| 04:44.40 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: it's probably --build --cpan then |
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| 04:45.12 | bnovc | dh-make-perl --install --cpan Bundle::CPAN |
| 04:45.16 | bnovc | is that correct to upgrade it? |
| 04:46.33 | brownie17 | shogunx, replacing the following with what you said? :::: auto eth0 |
| 04:46.34 | brownie17 | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 04:46.34 | brownie17 | name Ethernet LAN card |
| 04:46.50 | shogunx | iface eth0 inet static |
| 04:47.00 | shogunx | then declare the address and netmask |
| 04:47.24 | shogunx | auto eth0 brings it up at boot time. |
| 04:47.42 | brownie17 | shogunx, i'm a n00b to networks and debian in general, but does it matter what IP addreess i put in? and can the netmask just be: netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 04:48.50 | wendell3_ | Is there something like a PDF viewer for terminal sessions? :-) Something that can at least read out the text in them? |
| 04:49.17 | shogunx | brownie17, netmask correct... use 192.168.x.y where x>=0 and x<=255 and the same for y. make sure x is the same on both hosts and y is different on both |
| 04:49.32 | brownie17 | wendell3_, i seriously doubt it, considering the nature of PDF's. |
| 04:49.44 | d03boy | how can I get a cheapass webcam working on linux? |
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| 04:50.22 | brownie17 | shogunx, okay, the other computer is not linux, it's windows. will that affect it? |
| 04:50.35 | SuicidalDream | How do i use AOL Dial-Up with debian ? |
| 04:50.52 | shogunx | brownie17 not ip addressing... tcp-ip is pretty universal. |
| 04:51.03 | Kinks | SuicidalDream: you change ISPs |
| 04:51.09 | shogunx | brownie17, thank Vint Cerf and Bob Khan for that. |
| 04:51.22 | SuicidalDream | thats the only way ? |
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| 04:51.30 | Kinks | probably not, but I'd recommend it =) |
| 04:51.31 | shogunx | brownie17, tho i cannot tell you how to configure the other host. |
| 04:52.00 | brownie17 | shogunx, okay, well i will give it a try, |
| 04:53.08 | GOLDBLUUM | HALP, I HAVA PROBLAM WITH DABIAN. CAPS LOCK WILL NOT TURN OFF AND AVARY TIMA I TYPA THA LATTAR A ON THA KAYBOARD IT PRINTS OUT AN A. CAN ANYONA HALP MA? |
| 04:53.08 | shogunx | drunk... you are slacking. |
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| 04:53.21 | brownie17 | shogunx, what about defailt gateway? |
| 04:53.22 | drunk | I had a kegger upstairs |
| 04:53.35 | shogunx | brownie17 which one is connected to the internet? |
| 04:53.35 | GOLDBLUUM | IT IS IMPOSSIBLA TO TYPA CARTAIN COMMANDS |
| 04:53.38 | brownie17 | GOLDBLUUM, could be a virus |
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| 04:53.47 | brownie17 | shogunx, neither |
| 04:53.58 | shogunx | brownie17, then it is not necessary. |
| 04:54.04 | GOLDBLUUM | BROWNIA17: HAVA YOU HAARD OF THIS PROBLAM BAFORA? |
| 04:54.16 | shogunx | GOLDBLUUM are you at a console? |
| 04:54.25 | GOLDBLUUM | SHOGUNX: YAS |
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| 04:54.46 | drunk | does yoru shift key work |
| 04:54.46 | drunk | ? |
| 04:54.49 | shogunx | GOLDBLUUM if so, hit left alt key and F2 and login again. |
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| 04:54.56 | brownie17 | shogunx, i'll try connecting it now |
| 04:55.00 | GOLDBLUUM | DRUNK: NO UNFORTUNATALY |
| 04:55.10 | GOLDBLUUM | SHOGUNX: I'LL TRY THAT |
| 04:55.16 | mikedep333 | hey guys, where can I find the dhcpcd lease list? |
| 04:55.58 | sid | !ops GOLDBLUUM is a troll |
| 04:55.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: GOLDBLUUM is a troll |
| 04:56.03 | bbrazil | mikedep333: /var/lib/dhcpd/leases iirc |
| 04:56.14 | mikedep333 | thx |
| 04:56.35 | GOLDBLUUM | SHOGUNX: IT DIDN'T WORK. I HAVA TRIAD RABOOTING SAVARAL TIMAS TOO |
| 04:57.07 | GOLDBLUUM | I AM INCLINAD TO AGRAA WITH BROWNIA17 THAT IT MAY BA A VIRUS |
| 04:57.24 | Halitherses | dondelelcaro, I fixed it. I added AddModule mod_php4.c to httpd.conf. I have no idea what that does. |
| 04:57.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 04:57.30 | mikedep333 | oops, I meant the dhcpd lease list |
| 04:57.34 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@c210-49-157-34.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au] by mentor |
| 04:57.34 | *** kick/#debian [Halitherses!n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor] by mentor (mentor) |
| 04:57.36 | shogunx | GOLDBLUUM, not sure what to tell you then. never seen that. and doubtful that its a virus. your capslock key is probably stuck. get a new keyboard. |
| 04:58.04 | GOLDBLUUM | SHOGUNX: I HAVA USAD ABOUT 10 KAYBOARDS SO FAR SO I DOUBT IT |
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| 04:58.20 | mentor | what the fuck |
| 04:58.26 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ip70-177-62-10.br.br.cox.net] by mentor |
| 04:58.26 | *** kick/#debian [GOLDBLUUM!n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor] by mentor (mentor) |
| 04:58.29 | Kinks | mentor: sure you kicked the right person? |
| 04:58.33 | epictetus | hey |
| 04:58.44 | epictetus | bring him back |
| 04:58.48 | Kinks | I guess that answers that. |
| 04:58.50 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@c210-49-157-34.smelb1.vic.optusnet.com.au] by mentor |
| 04:59.03 | epictetus | that dude was a debian hacker |
| 04:59.14 | mentor | ... |
| 04:59.18 | epictetus | hes prolly gonny hack you now |
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| 04:59.34 | Kinks | epictetus: are you sure you don't want to be kicked too? just for being naive. =) |
| 04:59.44 | mentor | I thought I missed, so I checked the correct nick was highlighted too... |
| 05:00.02 | bbrazil | mikedep333: actually that was the dhcpd list. dpkg -L is useful for things like that |
| 05:00.14 | gpm | oh man, if naivite (naiveness?) were a cause for banning, we'd all be goners. |
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| 05:00.20 | Kinks | or maybe that was sarcasm, anyway... |
| 05:00.21 | shogunx | mentor hey thanks. that was annoying. |
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| 05:00.40 | mikedep333 | nm, found it |
| 05:00.50 | Halitherses | gee i got banned for reporting how to solve a problem we just spent 2 hours working on, why is that? |
| 05:00.52 | Kinks | gpm: hmm probably |
| 05:00.58 | Kinks | Halitherses: it was an accident. |
| 05:00.59 | mikedep333 | the dhcpd stuff is within /var/lib/dhcp/ |
| 05:01.01 | sid | Halitherses: It was an accident. |
| 05:01.04 | mikedep333 | I never knew /var/lib had useful stuff |
| 05:01.10 | Halitherses | ok, no problem |
| 05:01.15 | mikedep333 | thx though |
| 05:02.11 | KirkMan | hey guys |
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| 05:02.19 | KirkMan | I just configured my first Apache install |
| 05:02.21 | KirkMan | want to see? |
| 05:02.34 | KirkMan | http://test.on.nimp.org |
| 05:02.51 | mentor | It really is weird how one reads capital letters as shouting. |
| 05:03.04 | sid | !ops KirkMan is spamming gnaa links |
| 05:03.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: KirkMan is spamming gnaa links |
| 05:03.31 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 05:03.37 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@adsl-70-137-134-161.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] by mentor |
| 05:03.37 | *** kick/#debian [KirkMan!n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor] by mentor (mentor) |
| 05:03.37 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 05:03.37 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 05:03.53 | Kinks | with some leet malware too. |
| 05:04.13 | sid | yea, if you are _really_ curious...disable javascript first. |
| 05:04.45 | liable | sid: why did you call that person a troll? |
| 05:04.53 | sid | liable: It's GNAA people |
| 05:05.16 | dondelelcaro | liable: if you want to find out, visit the site... |
| 05:05.18 | liable | sid: hrm |
| 05:05.25 | sid | liable: And if they weren't a troll...it's up to the ops to decide to ban them or not. |
| 05:05.32 | liable | not kirkman |
| 05:05.34 | sid | I'm just typing the !ops command...I'm not banning..they make those decisions. |
| 05:05.55 | sid | liable: The caps lock person was GNAA also. |
| 05:06.05 | shogunx | wtf is GNAA? |
| 05:06.23 | sid | Some people that harass freenode. |
| 05:06.27 | dondelelcaro | liable: PROPS TO GNAA. LOL HY --DiKKy (GNAA NORWAY CORRESPONDANT)"... any questions? |
| 05:06.28 | sid | But that's off topic. |
| 05:06.37 | shogunx | bastards. |
| 05:06.42 | epictetus | you have to hack slashdot to get into gnaa |
| 05:07.02 | valdyn | !hack |
| 05:07.22 | sid | eh, we're just pleasing them by talking about it...best to ignore them as best we can. even though there is a small disturbance. |
| 05:07.34 | sid | !start a distro war |
| 05:07.34 | dpkg | Rock rocks! |
| 05:07.54 | sid | dpkg, I love you. |
| 05:07.54 | dpkg | I love you too, sid. |
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| 05:08.19 | liable | dondelelcaro: where did you get that info? all i am basing my comments on was what i saw in the channel. I dont care either way, it just didnt seem to be a troll to me, thats all. |
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| 05:08.59 | dondelelcaro | liable: look at the website that the individual in question posted. I suggest wget -O- -q <theurl>|less |
| 05:09.05 | Rez | I wouldn't suggest visiting the site |
| 05:09.11 | Rez | not in any browser anyway |
| 05:09.24 | dondelelcaro | Rez: but wget is my browser! ;-) |
| 05:09.28 | epictetus | especially not if you are mormon |
| 05:09.37 | epictetus | if you are mormon and go to that site you get excommunicated |
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| 05:09.46 | liable | dondelelcaro: i was actually talking about the previous kick, not yours. :) |
| 05:10.27 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, that cpan installer thing also said 5.8.8 was required |
| 05:10.38 | sid | Is testing security going to move? |
| 05:10.46 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: it will until you edit the Makefile.pl |
| 05:10.56 | bnovc | ah well thast what i did before anyway :P |
| 05:11.05 | fraser_ | how can check if i have r2 or r1? i installed from an r1 cd, but after updating, do i have r2? |
| 05:11.09 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: the build will fail, so edit Makefile.PL; then fakeroot debian/rules binary; the dpkg -i libpoe-component-oscar-perl; |
| 05:11.40 | bnovc | too bad i'm not sure where i told it to go |
| 05:11.43 | dondelelcaro | fraser_: checking the version of packages installed will tell you; however, if an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; doesn't upgrade any packages, then you're running r2 |
| 05:11.49 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: it goes into the current directory. |
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| 05:12.43 | turiddu | don delelcaro you have turned your head to the family |
| 05:13.12 | dondelelcaro | turiddu: ? |
| 05:13.49 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, fakeroot fails the tests |
| 05:13.50 | bnovc | t/POE-Component-OSCAR....dubious |
| 05:14.02 | k-google | fraser_: Doesn't matter. |
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| 05:14.23 | fraser_ | k-google, excuse me? i'm not following? isn't this a bot? |
| 05:14.25 | k-google | fraser_: r1/r2 are just roll-ups of the updates to stable available since stable was released. |
| 05:14.50 | k-google | fraser_: One sec. |
| 05:14.58 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: hrm... ok |
| 05:15.14 | k-google | fraser_: You're running Debian stable, yes? |
| 05:15.28 | fraser_ | k-google, yes |
| 05:15.35 | k-google | fraser_: generally, what you'll do is do an install, then run apt-get or aptitude update. |
| 05:15.54 | fraser_ | k-google, yeah, it did an apttude update while it installed. |
| 05:16.00 | k-google | fraser_: Stable avoids making any functional changes to packages. What the updates are are bugfixes and security updates. |
| 05:16.13 | k-google | fraser_: aptitude > apt-get mostly, FYI. |
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| 05:16.21 | fraser_ | k-google, thanks |
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| 05:16.41 | k-google | fraser_: .... and so what Debian does is periodically issue and updated stable release with the additional bugfixes / security updates. |
| 05:17.22 | brownie17 | stoned, i hope your nickname isn't actually indicative of your state |
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| 05:17.34 | stoned | it is |
| 05:17.36 | stoned | well |
| 05:17.38 | k-google | dondelelcaro: Um. What did you mean by your answer to fraser_? r1/r2 _is_ largely immaterial post-install, right? |
| 05:17.44 | stoned | I am somewhat strunk at the moment, before I was mostly droned |
| 05:17.53 | dondelelcaro | k-google: no, not really. |
| 05:18.07 | dondelelcaro | k-google: r1,r2 et. acutally involve changes to the archive, not just the install media. |
| 05:18.21 | redblades | Hi, I'm about to install OO.o from source. If I choose to later uninstall it, what must i do now? |
| 05:18.22 | k-google | dondelelcaro: Really? |
| 05:18.27 | k-google | dondelelcaro: Um. How? |
| 05:18.39 | k-google | redblades: If you're doing a source install, the convention is "make uninstall". |
| 05:18.43 | dondelelcaro | k-google: only security fixes happen in between pointfixes, and those are in a separate archive. |
| 05:18.44 | k-google | redblades: ... However, YMMV. |
| 05:19.09 | k-google | dondelelcaro: WTF should I be reading to clarify this? |
| 05:19.12 | dondelelcaro | (thus why you should always have a security.debina.org sources.list line) |
| 05:19.18 | redblades | I doesn't work with PHP or Apache2... I meant a command after ./configure. |
| 05:19.22 | k-google | dondelelcaro: Right, I do that. |
| 05:19.22 | stoned | I have a 1.8ghz laptop 512 mb ram, with a broken screen. What are somethings I can do with it besides X applications |
| 05:19.23 | dondelelcaro | k-google: uh... there's really not much to clarify |
| 05:19.32 | redblades | I was told it was something with "prefix " in it... |
| 05:19.32 | stoned | overthenetwork I mean |
| 05:19.33 | bnovc | stoned, use it as a server? |
| 05:19.36 | valdyn | redblades: why the hell are you compiling oo.org from source? |
| 05:19.50 | redblades | I just want to |
| 05:19.53 | k-google | valdyn: I guess his room is cold and quiet. |
| 05:20.03 | valdyn | redblades: good fun |
| 05:20.07 | redblades | Yep |
| 05:20.10 | dondelelcaro | k-google: Martin Krafft's book has a whole section on how it works, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Debian-package-cycle.png being the most important figure. |
| 05:20.35 | stoned | bnovc, well I was trying out ubuntu on it a long time ago, and then I never bothered with it, its been connected and on all this time. I just want to install debian again, but before I do, I wanna make a plan for it, I dunno what I want, so wondering what are some simple home/lan suggestions of an extra machine handy |
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| 05:21.00 | k-google | dondelelcaro: Is the book worth buying? I've picked it up a few times, looks pretty decent, but I figure I know _most_ of it. |
| 05:21.06 | k-google | dondelelcaro: ... and it does quote me ;-) |
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| 05:21.23 | k-google | dondelelcaro: ... thinking it would mostly be useful to throw at ignorant cow-orkers. |
| 05:21.34 | bnovc | stoned, web server, bnc, file editing, file storage, etc |
| 05:21.58 | user123 | hi, how would one find out what X server is her running? the log doesn't contain a date. and i have two x86free and xorg |
| 05:22.17 | k-google | user123: You don't if you installed via apt. |
| 05:22.30 | user123 | k-google you do. it was installed via apt |
| 05:22.31 | valdyn | user123: you're not running debian if you have both? |
| 05:22.31 | k-google | user123: xserver-xfree86 and xserver-xorg conflict. |
| 05:22.38 | user123 | k-google i'm aware of that |
| 05:22.40 | tilrman | perhaps he means he has both logs? |
| 05:22.48 | valdyn | user123: cant have both via debian |
| 05:22.52 | stoned | is there a way to install games on that machine, and run them there, but have it show up on my monitor locally, i know going over the net will kill the decent enough FPS but is ther e away I can turn it into a gaming machine but instead over the network |
| 05:22.55 | liable | conf files is my guess |
| 05:22.55 | k-google | user123: dpkg --get-selections | grep xserver |
| 05:23.05 | user123 | tilrman nope, let me show you dpkg -i |
| 05:23.21 | user123 | k-google sec |
| 05:23.31 | stoned | I mean I've tried some games over ssh -X they work better than vnc but its still kinda slow |
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| 05:23.36 | user123 | k-google http://rafb.net/paste/results/vIfXmq73.html |
| 05:23.43 | bnovc | stoned, try freenx |
| 05:23.55 | k-google | dondelelcaro: Nice graphic, BTW> |
| 05:23.59 | stoned | bnovc, that would work with games? |
| 05:24.12 | valdyn | stoned: it will be to slow |
| 05:24.17 | stoned | yeh :( |
| 05:24.25 | bnovc | no it wont |
| 05:24.26 | valdyn | stoned: unless you games are just ( like ) tetris |
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| 05:24.28 | bnovc | it would be fine over a lan |
| 05:24.37 | valdyn | bnovc: yea right |
| 05:24.40 | stoned | not like tetris, I mean like wine emulated morrowind/diablo 2 |
| 05:24.40 | k-google | user123: Um. That's odd. 'apt-cache show xserver-xorg xserver-xfree86; dpkg -i xserver-xorg xserver-xfree86' |
| 05:24.41 | stoned | :D |
| 05:24.42 | bnovc | valdyn, have you used freenx? |
| 05:24.49 | sandman | Is there some kind of repository which contains old debs? |
| 05:24.56 | valdyn | bnovc: i can do basic maths |
| 05:25.00 | k-google | sandman: Um. Used to be. |
| 05:25.06 | bnovc | valdyn, oh ok |
| 05:25.19 | k-google | sandman: archive.debian.net IIRC. I think I'm wrong though. |
| 05:25.28 | k-google | sandman: ...and at one point it died. |
| 05:25.34 | stoned | bnovc, I have and its grand, its just a little bit better than ssh -X -C but I think I might run an extra monitor up to it, and use synergy to share mouse/keyboard |
| 05:25.39 | sandman | k-google: The server died? |
| 05:25.42 | sandman | All the stuff was lost? |
| 05:25.49 | liable | sandman: snapshot.debian.net |
| 05:25.52 | k-google | sandman: The service. |
| 05:25.56 | user123 | k-google you mean dpkg -l rather then -i? cause it would be invalid |
| 05:25.57 | k-google | sandman: what liable said. |
| 05:26.04 | valdyn | !640x400x3 |
| 05:26.07 | bnovc | what all do i need to install to get X working? |
| 05:26.10 | k-google | user123: Sorry, yeah. '-l' |
| 05:26.10 | valdyn | !640*400*3 |
| 05:26.10 | dpkg | 768000 |
| 05:26.23 | bnovc | "/usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory" w/startx |
| 05:26.35 | valdyn | !768000*50 |
| 05:26.35 | dpkg | 38400000 |
| 05:26.44 | k-google | bnovc: aptitude install xserver-xorg |
| 05:26.49 | shogunx | !42 |
| 05:26.49 | dpkg | from memory, 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything. or 6 * 8 or hexadecimal for ascii 'B' or 10!/86400, or what you get when you multiply 6 by 9. (base 13), or a number that silly people use, or the number of roads a man walks down. in Douglas Adams' book, or *not* the meaning of life |
| 05:26.57 | user123 | k-google sec, let me reset my locale |
| 05:27.18 | bnovc | k-google, cool thanks |
| 05:27.26 | k-google | bnovc: NP. |
| 05:27.32 | user123 | k-google http://rafb.net/paste/results/XLy7DH31.html |
| 05:27.40 | bnovc | k-google, is that different from 'apt-get install xserver-xorg' ? |
| 05:27.46 | sandman | Is it okay to generate _all_ locales? Will that mess anything up for me? |
| 05:27.56 | valdyn | sandman: its ok |
| 05:28.00 | shogunx | sandman it will take a while. |
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| 05:28.04 | bnovc | valdyn, you're assuming that all pixels are changing there and that no compression takes place |
| 05:28.11 | Rez | dondelelcaro: that page isn't more than terribly annoying, is it? |
| 05:28.12 | valdyn | bnovc: no im not |
| 05:28.14 | liable | bnovc: you prolly want x-window-system-core (pull in all needed x packages) |
| 05:28.20 | dondelelcaro | Rez: which page? |
| 05:28.26 | sandman | Is locales a console-related thing? |
| 05:28.30 | dbernar1 | Hi. My system clock gets reset to 1904 every time I shut down my computer. What can be done for this not to happen? |
| 05:28.30 | bnovc | liable, ah, ok |
| 05:28.34 | Rez | dondelelcaro: the gnaa page |
| 05:28.35 | k-google | user123: Please read the package description for xserver-xfree86. |
| 05:28.42 | k-google | user123: It's a transitional package. |
| 05:28.45 | bnovc | liable, thanks :) |
| 05:28.46 | valdyn | bnovc: already compressing an 38MB per sec data stream ( which is pretty low for a game really ) is going to be to much |
| 05:29.06 | k-google | bnovc: aptitude ~= > apt-get. commandline is largely equivalent. |
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| 05:29.14 | k-google | !tell bnovc about aptitude |
| 05:29.16 | user123 | k-google are you suggesting that i have xorg? :P |
| 05:29.18 | bnovc | valdyn, i've had no problem using it lan |
| 05:29.21 | k-google | user123: No. |
| 05:29.28 | valdyn | bnovc: for which game, is the question |
| 05:29.30 | k-google | user123: I'm *telling* you you've got x.org ;-) |
| 05:29.52 | user123 | k-google hrm. okay, then i should clean up all the xfree stuff, cause i do have conflicting packages |
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| 05:30.02 | k-google | user123: You can remove xserver-xfree86. It hsould be an empty package. |
| 05:30.06 | bnovc | valdyn, well i'm not talking about like quake 4 here |
| 05:30.11 | bnovc | (is there a 4 now?) |
| 05:30.13 | k-google | user123: Sort your conflicts, yeah, that'd be good. |
| 05:30.57 | user123 | k-google well, i'm removing aptitude remove xserver-xfree86 xfree86-driver-synaptics xserver-xfree86 |
| 05:31.16 | k-google | user123: ... and? |
| 05:31.25 | m1ke_l | can you apt-get remove apt? |
| 05:31.31 | valdyn | m1ke_l: sure |
| 05:31.34 | k-google | m1ke_l: Yep. |
| 05:31.37 | dbernar1 | m1ke_l: is apt a package? |
| 05:31.59 | user123 | k-google and it wants to remove bunch of xorg stuff |
| 05:32.03 | Rez | dondelelcaro: no clue? |
| 05:32.21 | k-google | user123: Um. Stop. |
| 05:32.27 | k-google | dbernar1: Yes, it is. |
| 05:32.32 | user123 | k-google yeah, figured not a good idea |
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| 05:32.41 | dondelelcaro | Rez: I haven't really looked at it |
| 05:33.34 | user123 | btw, do i really need to have exim4 installed, or i can get rid of it? |
| 05:33.46 | valdyn | user123: dont get rid of it |
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| 05:33.49 | k-google | user123: You can use aptitude interactively as well, which can sometimes be easier if you need to sort out dependencies and stuff. |
| 05:33.50 | valdyn | !why do i need an MTA |
| 05:33.57 | valdyn | !why an MTA |
| 05:33.57 | dpkg | An MTA should be on most unix(ish) systems to provide a way for various services to deliver asynchronous system or error messages. |
| 05:34.19 | user123 | can't they directly write to mailspool? :P |
| 05:34.33 | k-google | user123: You don't need exim4 per se, but it's a good idea to have an MTA around. There's some fake/simple MTAs for minimal stuff if you insist, but i'd strongly suggest you keep a full-featured one. |
| 05:34.41 | valdyn | user123: that would be stupid |
| 05:34.55 | k-google | user123: Sure. If they're MTAs. |
| 05:34.56 | brownie17 | did anyone end up helping that guy who's caps lock wouldn't turn off? |
| 05:35.13 | k-google | brownie17: NO. SHOULD WE HAVE? |
| 05:35.30 | brownie17 | k-google, lol |
| 05:35.30 | bnovc | likely excuse for caps |
| 05:36.04 | user123 | can i just replace it with exim4-daemon-light |
| 05:36.09 | brownie17 | bnovc, nah, he was serious, and apparently everytime he pressed the A key his printer would print the letter A off |
| 05:36.12 | liable | cynics |
| 05:36.13 | user123 | i suppose there should be no harm |
| 05:36.25 | k-google | user123: It's easy enough to undo. |
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| 05:36.33 | bnovc | brownie17, heh |
| 05:36.36 | k-google | user123: So long as you don't purge the package, your configs are still there. |
| 05:36.44 | brownie17 | is there a bootable version of debian? like a livecd? |
| 05:37.04 | k-google | brownie17: I've had issues with either futznored keyboards or emulators where strange shiznit happened. |
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| 05:37.08 | liable | brownie17: theres one in the making, debian-live |
| 05:37.16 | k-google | brownie17: ~= knoppix. |
| 05:37.29 | k-google | brownie17: ... which is largely Debian based. As is LNX-BBC and DSL. |
| 05:37.46 | user123 | also, i wanted to ask, how can i check if direct rendering is enabled in xorg, in x86free it used to be glxinfo |
| 05:37.49 | brownie17 | k-google, it's easier if your livecd and you're normal linux are the same, because you know the lay of the land, so to speak. |
| 05:37.58 | liable | brownie17: apparently it works, dunno much about it though |
| 05:37.59 | valdyn | user123: just the same in xorg |
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| 05:38.14 | user123 | valdyn dont' seem to have the binary |
| 05:38.15 | k-google | brownie17: Knoppix has created very little cognitive dissonance for me. |
| 05:38.19 | brownie17 | k-google, yeah, i've heard good things about dsl, why is it so small? i hear it's got pretty much everything that windows XP does |
| 05:38.20 | valdyn | user123: so install it |
| 05:38.38 | liable | user123: xbase-clients iirc |
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| 05:39.16 | k-google | brownie17: It's blackbox, has dillo rather than firefox, and a few other bits. It's much less stuff than Knoppix, but remains a relatively usable lightweight bootable Linux. |
| 05:39.25 | bnovc | hm my vim just uninstalled itself |
| 05:39.27 | bnovc | that's cool |
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| 05:39.40 | brownie17 | k-google, sorry, what's blackbox? |
| 05:39.45 | k-google | brownie17: Tip: download the iso, install qemu, and boot it with: qemu -cdrom dsl.iso -boot d |
| 05:39.55 | k-google | brownie17: Lightweight window manager. |
| 05:40.09 | brownie17 | k-google, oh okay, i get it |
| 05:40.41 | k-google | http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:40.45 | brownie17 | k-google, meh, sounds like a fair bit of effort |
| 05:40.50 | dbernar1 | Stupid battery:) See ya, thanks for the info-rmation. |
| 05:40.52 | kreg_lt | anyone know how to convert from mbox to cyrus.db ? |
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| 05:41.35 | brownie17 | k-google, so, if i am using the 386 kernel right now, but i have a p4, is it effectivly noly using part of my proccessors capability? |
| 05:42.00 | pourriture_ | hi ... I am drunk and trolling ... who would like to participate? |
| 05:42.09 | dbernar1 | hm... |
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| 05:42.15 | brownie17 | pourriture_, sounds fun, but i'm not drunk |
| 05:42.21 | valdyn | brownie17: it will only be using a part of your processor even if you install a p4 kernel |
| 05:42.31 | brownie17 | valdyn, why is that? |
| 05:42.34 | pourriture_ | brownie17, it was worth a shot |
| 05:42.45 | brownie17 | pourriture_, sure was, keep trying |
| 05:43.02 | valdyn | brownie17: because its a CISC processor with various rarely ever used instructions |
| 05:43.28 | user123 | hrm odd, i just installed xbase-clients, however no gxlinfo |
| 05:43.29 | brownie17 | valdyn, umm? okay. does that mean windows doesn't fully use it's potential either? |
| 05:43.47 | valdyn | brownie17: sure, but i think you don't understant this.. |
| 05:43.54 | valdyn | brownie17: just ask your real question |
| 05:44.02 | pourriture_ | brownie17, how do you feel about <hot topic> I think it sucks </hot topic> |
| 05:44.06 | bnovc | why would vim have uninstalled itself |
| 05:44.12 | bnovc | installing x is all i've done |
| 05:44.29 | brownie17 | valdyn, um, is linux a waste of processor power? should i get a different brand proccessor and M/B? |
| 05:44.31 | bnovc | erm its back now |
| 05:44.38 | valdyn | brownie17: nope |
| 05:44.38 | bnovc | x definitely uninstalled and reinstalled my vim |
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| 05:45.22 | brownie17 | valdyn, cool. |
| 05:45.37 | tilrman | bnovc: perhaps it installed a different flavor of vim that plays well with x |
| 05:45.41 | bnovc | maybe |
| 05:45.44 | brownie17 | pourriture_, <hot topic> is crap, <underdog> beats it anyday of the week |
| 05:45.52 | user123 | bnovc what window manager did you install? |
| 05:45.55 | pourriture_ | am I to understand that bnovc thinks that x windows and THE oldest surviving text editor have soemthing in common? |
| 05:46.00 | bnovc | user123, kde |
| 05:46.06 | user123 | bnovc try kvim |
| 05:46.14 | bnovc | user123, i dont actually use it |
| 05:46.14 | Rothgar` | when I use "shutdown now" the system never seems to shutdown |
| 05:46.19 | Rothgar` | Only like half shutrs down |
| 05:46.27 | bnovc | user123, i only edit over ssh |
| 05:46.29 | tilrman | Rothgar`: which half? |
| 05:46.34 | bnovc | pourriture_, i promise they do, try it! |
| 05:46.36 | brownie17 | tilrman, lol |
| 05:46.40 | Rothgar` | tilrman: Which half indeed |
| 05:46.41 | user123 | tilrman left one :P |
| 05:47.00 | brownie17 | gotta reboot guys, i've just installed a new kernel |
| 05:47.18 | pourriture_ | bnovc, can you still play nethack ... cause that is all that really matters ... |
| 05:47.18 | bnovc | HAH i just saw it! |
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| 05:47.32 | bnovc | 'setting up vim' <- aptitude install kde |
| 05:47.36 | bnovc | at least i know i'm not crazyh |
| 05:48.13 | brownie17 | why is there no "suspend-to-disk" option in debian? |
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| 05:48.28 | pourriture_ | bnovc, kudos ... that is weird ... |
| 05:48.37 | |Sivik| | how does opne run a program after i installed it via dkpg -i filename |
| 05:48.38 | bnovc | indeed it is! |
| 05:48.47 | user123 | brownie17 there is.. just dont' remember where, fiddled around with it a while ago |
| 05:48.50 | bnovc | |Sivik|, type the program name |
| 05:48.57 | |Sivik| | didn't work |
| 05:48.59 | brownie17 | user123, hm.. it's not in the logout panel |
| 05:49.10 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 05:49.10 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:49.19 | punsad | |Sivik|: do dpkg -L packagename | grep bin for the executable name |
| 05:49.20 | user123 | brownie17 you ought to configure it, in the kernel, afaik |
| 05:49.23 | |Sivik| | ok |
| 05:49.34 | pourriture_ | brownie17, cause a real debian guy is on 24/ 7 and suspend isn't necesary |
| 05:49.40 | punsad | |Sivik|: that is 'dpkg -L packagename | grep bin' |
| 05:49.54 | pourriture_ | brownie17, ;) |
| 05:50.09 | user123 | pourriture_ my laptop had uptimes of 3 and more months :P |
| 05:50.17 | |Sivik| | punsad: yeah, i got that |
| 05:50.25 | |Sivik| | the only place it finds it is /opt/cxoffice/bin |
| 05:50.41 | |Sivik| | found it |
| 05:50.42 | |Sivik| | nvm |
| 05:50.47 | bnovc | i was hoping to give vim7 a try, but it looks like i wont be doing that for 5 years until debian accepts it |
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| 05:50.57 | bnovc | suppose i could install it seperately |
| 05:51.16 | brownie17 | pourriture_, lol, ood answer |
| 05:51.18 | punsad | user123: this may not apply to you, but for mobile users, uptime is not important |
| 05:51.27 | valdyn | bnovc: vim7 is already in sid |
| 05:51.33 | bnovc | really? |
| 05:51.35 | brownie17 | user123, oh. is that difficult to do? meh, i'll just forgive debian for not having it allready i think |
| 05:51.48 | bnovc | aptitude search vim7 gives no results |
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| 05:52.03 | valdyn | bnovc: maybe you are not running sid |
| 05:52.04 | user123 | brownie17 remember most of people are not running on laptops |
| 05:52.18 | bnovc | maybe, since i don't know what sid is :P |
| 05:52.18 | pourriture_ | user123, that is fun ... I hooked a pentium 166 laptop up to a 350 va battery backup and installed apache 1.3 to play with ... I had 2.5 years of uptime before I got sick of it |
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| 05:52.25 | user123 | !sid |
| 05:52.27 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
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| 05:52.39 | punsad | bnovc: sid = "Still In Development".. i.e. unstable |
| 05:52.43 | bnovc | ah.. |
| 05:52.50 | brownie17 | user123, neither am i, but it takes AGES to start up, and i can never be bothered waiting |
| 05:52.53 | valdyn | !sid |
| 05:52.53 | bnovc | well i'll install it manually and keep 2 copies i think |
| 05:52.54 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 05:53.15 | user123 | brownie17 add a compact option to your lilo to speedup the boot |
| 05:53.47 | user123 | brownie17 altho you are probably using grub :) |
| 05:53.57 | Rothgar` | It says enter password for maintenance mode or ctrl+d to continue. Do I have to enter maintenance mode to shutdown or can I shut it down at that point? Because ctrl+d starts everything back up |
| 05:54.20 | brownie17 | user123, i am using grub, only because it's default, but also because someone once told me lilo was just as good, and there was no point switching |
| 05:54.21 | user123 | Rothgar` use poweroff instead of shutdown |
| 05:54.34 | brownie17 | Rothgar`, iget that too, it's annoying |
| 05:54.39 | brownie17 | user123, sudo poweroff? |
| 05:54.44 | sid | punsad: no sid is not "Still In Development" |
| 05:54.47 | sid | !sid |
| 05:54.48 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 05:55.03 | user123 | sid you are 3rd one to do that, please see the backlog? :P |
| 05:55.06 | sid | punsad: sid doesn't have a version number, sid will never be released. |
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| 05:55.12 | pourriture_ | so what we are saying is that sid = Still in develpment |
| 05:55.21 | punsad | sid: that's funny because even the Debian book from Starch Press says so |
| 05:55.21 | user123 | pourriture_ that is not correct |
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| 05:55.31 | brownie17 | pourriture_, lol! you're satarting fights again! |
| 05:55.33 | pourriture_ | user123, that was sarcasm |
| 05:55.34 | user123 | brownie17 aye |
| 05:55.53 | Rothgar` | Hey poweroff works, amazing |
| 05:56.02 | brownie17 | user123, wha about restarting? just sdo reboot? |
| 05:56.15 | Rothgar` | shutdown -r works for me |
| 05:56.17 | user123 | brownie17 yes |
| 05:56.30 | brownie17 | user123, sudo: reboot: command not found |
| 05:56.31 | user123 | brownie17 that's what i use anyways |
| 05:56.31 | bnovc | no bunzip2 package? |
| 05:56.37 | pourriture_ | I heard that etch stands for extra time compiling hex ... is that true |
| 05:56.49 | punsad | Rothgar`: I never get that 'maintenance mode' message... are you running plain' old debian? or some debian variant? e.g. ubuntu |
| 05:56.59 | Rothgar` | punsad: Debian 3.1 |
| 05:57.17 | peterS | pourriture_: that doesn't make any sense. no, it's not true. |
| 05:57.21 | Rothgar` | punsad: I use "shutdown now" when I watch console I get that message |
| 05:57.24 | Tallu | punsad: I also get the maintanance mode |
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| 05:57.31 | Tallu | Only poweroff works for me as well. |
| 05:57.38 | liable | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.40 | Rothgar` | punsad: I use "ctrl+D" and it starts everything back up |
| 05:57.41 | punsad | Rothgar`:hmmm... well sounds like its just a minor annoyance |
| 05:57.43 | sigjuice | is there an easy way to look at the changelog deltas for all the packages that got updated by apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 05:57.45 | pourriture_ | sorry ... that was weak ... but it was the only thing I could think of peterS |
| 05:57.46 | brownie17 | pourriture_, it's another toy story character, that's all |
| 05:57.59 | brownie17 | user123, sudo: reboot: command not found |
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| 05:58.03 | user123 | sigjuice you are probably better of with aptitude |
| 05:58.04 | valdyn | Rothgar`: shutdown now is supposed to do that |
| 05:58.28 | blujay | When apt-get tells me that the build-deps for a package can't be satisfied, how can I make it tell me WHY? I'd like a list of the build-deps that can't be installed, and what the conflicts are. I can't find any way to do that. |
| 05:58.29 | Rothgar` | valdyn: Why? |
| 05:58.30 | peterS | pourriture_: I think it means 'early technology code here' |
| 05:58.36 | sigjuice | user123: I'll give it a shot |
| 05:58.38 | valdyn | Rothgar`: why not? it DOES THAT |
| 05:58.52 | user123 | brownie17 do you have sysvinit installed? |
| 05:58.55 | pourriture_ | peterS, that was way better than mine |
| 05:59.08 | brownie17 | user123, no, what's that? |
| 05:59.31 | brownie17 | user123, actually yes i do |
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| 06:00.07 | user123 | brownie17 /sbin/reboot should be the full path |
| 06:00.11 | pourriture_ | and sarge is save all redundant gcc executables |
| 06:00.13 | valdyn | Rothgar`: read the manpage |
| 06:00.28 | bnovc | wow my fonts in KDE look terrible |
| 06:00.44 | user123 | bnovc turn on antialiasing and install better fonts? |
| 06:00.52 | punsad | bnovc: did you install mscorettf? |
| 06:00.54 | sigjuice | bnovc: mine look horrible too |
| 06:00.56 | liable | bnovc: THATS HOW KDE IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK :p |
| 06:01.02 | liable | doh |
| 06:01.05 | sid | lol |
| 06:01.06 | user123 | liable lol |
| 06:01.06 | bnovc | nice responses, hah |
| 06:01.09 | liable | sorry |
| 06:01.10 | bnovc | i just turned it on :P |
| 06:01.18 | bnovc | yea kde is trashy but oh well |
| 06:01.23 | pourriture_ | my fonts look good in windowmaker |
| 06:01.25 | sid | !start a window manager war |
| 06:01.26 | dpkg | enlightenment blows goats! |
| 06:01.29 | pourriture_ | but that is just me |
| 06:01.38 | bnovc | the only thing i plan to use KDE for is creating screenshots of programs |
| 06:01.45 | bnovc | and i actually can probably use fluxbox more easily for that too |
| 06:01.57 | peterS | so I guess the reason they call it enlightenment is, that's about when it was last updated |
| 06:02.00 | valdyn | !screenshot |
| 06:02.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 06:02.11 | bnovc | valdyn, yea i know how :) |
| 06:02.29 | user123 | duh, where the hell is glxinfo? |
| 06:02.33 | sid | valdyn: I like "scrot" for screenshots...one command no options...easy as pie. |
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| 06:02.39 | user123 | xbase-clients don't have it |
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| 06:02.58 | bnovc | screenshots are a pain in the ass though since you have to get the window id |
| 06:02.58 | valdyn | !tell user123 -about search |
| 06:03.12 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: not really... |
| 06:03.13 | bnovc | i have my IRC bot setup to give me screenshots from different browsers, thats all i use the gui for |
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| 06:03.24 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: you can just use import; and click on the window. |
| 06:03.34 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, can't click on the window from a perl script |
| 06:03.41 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: sure you can |
| 06:03.51 | bnovc | ok you can but its not practical and there is a better way |
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| 06:03.59 | dondelelcaro | well, if there's any user interface at all you can... |
| 06:04.18 | bnovc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.20 | bnovc | works better |
| 06:04.41 | peterS | Useless Use of Grep |
| 06:04.53 | bnovc | why? |
| 06:04.54 | peterS | unless you really *need* the -i |
| 06:05.10 | bnovc | nah probably dont |
| 06:05.12 | peterS | otherwise, just put /.$process./ in front of the {} statement of awk |
| 06:05.19 | bnovc | oh, didn't know that |
| 06:05.20 | bnovc | interesting |
| 06:05.24 | pourriture_ | ok ... <not trolling this time> Why does linux have "pretty envy" ... is it not enough to be stable and efficient?" </not trolling this time> |
| 06:05.34 | peterS | so like import -window $(wmctrl -l | awk '/.$process./{print $1}') |
| 06:05.45 | bnovc | cool thanks peters |
| 06:05.46 | peterS | but make sure $process has a way to get expanded somehow |
| 06:05.49 | valdyn | pourriture_: it does? |
| 06:05.52 | peterS | inside '' it will not, after all |
| 06:07.40 | jd|laptop | I'm using the X vnc extension with a debian xorg |
| 06:07.49 | jd|laptop | whenever I close the vnc connection, the X session ends |
| 06:07.55 | jd|laptop | is there any way to change this behavior? |
| 06:07.57 | bnovc | anyone know where the setting is to make the title bars of windows reasonable in kde? |
| 06:08.07 | bnovc | actually, i dont even know why i'm using kde i'll just install flux |
| 06:08.20 | valdyn | jd|laptop: close the vnc window isntead of exiting your X session |
| 06:08.23 | user123 | i used ion |
| 06:08.31 | jd|laptop | valdyn, that's what I'm doing |
| 06:09.03 | jd|laptop | if I mis-type the password, it exits as well |
| 06:09.25 | pourriture_ | valdyn, I moved my daily driver at work to a g-5 mac with tiger ... and I am uber-impressed with the gui tools ... but at the end of the day it looks just like my linux boxes ... 4 terminals and a background |
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| 06:10.16 | deeptz | is there any utility in debian where i can unzip a .zip file |
| 06:10.25 | user123 | deeptz unzip |
| 06:10.37 | deeptz | unzip is a utility |
| 06:10.43 | peterS | yes, it's a package |
| 06:10.51 | punsad | deeptz: apt-get install unzip |
| 06:11.10 | deeptz | ok let me try |
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| 06:12.11 | pourriture_ | deeptz, ... apt-get install cabextract while you are at it ... that way you can move M$ office templates to openoffice |
| 06:12.25 | user123 | hrm.. what is this supposed to mean? (WW) RADEON(0): [dri] detected radeon kernel module version 1.19 but 1.23 or newer is required for full memory mapping. |
| 06:12.54 | user123 | pourriture_ you think he needs this? |
| 06:13.26 | pourriture_ | user123, I think he needs it ... he just hasn't asked that question yet |
| 06:14.14 | user123 | is there channel to adress x.org and radeon graphics cards? |
| 06:14.30 | punsad | has anyone tried ubuntu? is it that much different than just debian? |
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| 06:15.02 | punsad | it seems that Ubuntu is rather popular these days |
| 06:15.06 | user123 | punsad it is quite different, but stuff is tightly coupled together and modified ot some extent |
| 06:15.28 | pourriture_ | punsad, my experience with unbuntu is that it is like debian without thinking and without thought |
| 06:15.43 | user123 | punsad it comes wiht gnome, fyi |
| 06:15.57 | sid | yea, Ubuntu has silly names also(more silly then toy story characters) |
| 06:16.12 | sid | Breezy Badger sounds like a douche kit brand name that they sell in a woman's store. |
| 06:16.23 | user123 | sid the new one is dapper something |
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| 06:16.27 | sid | I also don't want my root password in a system readable plain text file...So I don't use ubuntu. |
| 06:16.41 | user123 | sid they didn't fix that? |
| 06:16.55 | k-god | sid: That's long since been fixed. |
| 06:16.56 | sid | yes |
| 06:17.05 | punsad | sid: I dunno how much of a problem that really is since once you set it during install.. it is a non-issue I heard |
| 06:17.15 | pourriture_ | try kubuntu for the full playskool KDE look |
| 06:17.23 | user123 | sid, actaully they got rid of the root user |
| 06:17.28 | user123 | they use sudo for everything |
| 06:17.53 | k-god | user123: Not true |
| 06:18.08 | pourriture_ | and edubutnus for your kids |
| 06:18.12 | k-god | user123: Root simply doesn't have a valid password. It's readily changed. |
| 06:18.20 | punsad | my place of work even has ubuntu on COE... I was thinking about installing it on my laptop |
| 06:18.30 | user123 | k-gog yeah, well, didn't say it the right way |
| 06:18.44 | user123 | punsad my runs mandriva... |
| 06:18.57 | bnovc | vim7 has been compiling for over 20 minutes :( |
| 06:18.57 | punsad | user123: your laptop? |
| 06:19.16 | user123 | punsad no, my laptop is debian. but my work place is mandriva |
| 06:19.27 | turiddu | mandriva |
| 06:19.34 | k-god | !comfort user123 |
| 06:19.34 | dpkg | There, there, user123. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:20.19 | punsad | user123: mandriva was the ubuntu of redhat (ofcourse that's when mandrive was mandrakeand fedora was redhat) :) |
| 06:21.02 | user123 | well, actually it works alright, for exception of the rpm based packages, and some other little annoynces |
| 06:21.09 | pourriture_ | punsad, just like gentoo is the bsd of linux ... right? |
| 06:21.26 | punsad | pourriture_: I've never heard that |
| 06:21.50 | k-god | punsad: Well, gentoo is influenced by BSD ports. |
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| 06:22.11 | user123 | k-god yeah, the packages are, but not the rest, imo |
| 06:22.11 | pourriture_ | punsad, my wife is a freebsd chick and I get NO END of superiority from her ... |
| 06:22.17 | user123 | lol |
| 06:22.39 | k-god | We've got quite the gentoo contingent around the office. |
| 06:22.56 | punsad | pourriture_: did she major in computers or just a hobbyist? |
| 06:22.56 | sid | !start a distro war |
| 06:22.56 | dpkg | DSL rocks! |
| 06:22.57 | pourriture_ | and gentoo works like bsd as far as package/port management |
| 06:23.10 | k-god | pourriture_: Slowly, and with attitude? |
| 06:23.10 | user123 | k-god i've converted a co-worker to linux, and now he is hardcore gentoo, last year during the summer he was a windows users |
| 06:23.20 | k-god | !gentoo |
| 06:23.20 | dpkg | somebody said gentoo was a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 06:23.23 | k-god | Feh. |
| 06:23.24 | punsad | dpkg: agreed... I just got turned on to it last week |
| 06:23.41 | k-god | gentoo is but one step on the long road from debian to debian. |
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| 06:23.58 | pourriture_ | punsad, she did a double majore in english(shakespeare lit focus) and biology |
| 06:24.17 | punsad | pourriture_: wow... sounds brilliant |
| 06:24.18 | user123 | what's better freetype or xtt? |
| 06:24.18 | Azar | I hate compiling every single stuff |
| 06:24.20 | pourriture_ | she is just a geek that like to control her computer |
| 06:24.41 | user123 | for fonts that is |
| 06:24.42 | bnovc | whats the best/easiest way to run internet explorer? |
| 06:24.46 | bnovc | cedega or cx ? |
| 06:25.12 | k-god | bnovc: ln -s /usr/bin/firefox /usr/local/bin/msie |
| 06:25.26 | pourriture_ | punsad, she is scary ... she learns everything that she is interested in ... with ease |
| 06:25.26 | bnovc | k-god no |
| 06:25.32 | peterS | k-god: now now, it's called iexplore.exe |
| 06:25.33 | punsad | bnovc: vnc from a windows machine |
| 06:25.35 | user123 | k-god :) i think he is a webdeveloper who needs it for work to compare |
| 06:25.40 | bnovc | punsad, nah i want it emulated |
| 06:25.59 | k-god | bnovc: You can run MSIE 6 under Wine. |
| 06:26.03 | user123 | pourriture_ you've been outgeeked? |
| 06:26.04 | punsad | bnovc: Linux Journal has a very impressive article touting qemu |
| 06:26.04 | peterS | k-got: well, that is, the bits that aren't called ntoskrnl.exe, of course |
| 06:26.15 | bnovc | punsad, yea i was thinking about trying qemu |
| 06:26.16 | user123 | punsad is it avaiable from online yet? |
| 06:26.20 | bnovc | i just tried it with crossover office and it fails |
| 06:26.25 | bnovc | i think i used cedega in the past |
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| 06:26.31 | k-god | peterS: I'm ashamed to say I know that. |
| 06:26.47 | punsad | user123: its in sarge |
| 06:26.56 | pourriture_ | punsad, she laughed at me for 2 years cause I did all my linux stuff in bash .. then she got an interest in BSD about 8 months ago and I never see her do anything that is not terminal |
| 06:26.58 | user123 | punsad i'm running sid anyways |
| 06:27.20 | user123 | pourriture_ haha, that's great |
| 06:27.35 | pourriture_ | user123, way out geeked |
| 06:27.37 | user123 | pourriture_ altho bds, are c shells |
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| 06:27.58 | punsad | user123: yeahh.. it's gotta be there... in the LJ article... they go through the WinXP install *AND* install Outlook... I think this is going to be big |
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| 06:28.08 | Rothgar` | user123: You should stop mounting sid heh |
| 06:28.17 | k-god | pourriture_: Sounds like a right winner. |
| 06:28.25 | pourriture_ | user she got the port for bash ... cause she wanted to be able to ask me for help ... but she never did |
| 06:28.46 | user123 | pourriture_ haha. man, that's amazing |
| 06:29.02 | k-god | bnovc: There's an article at Frank's Corner... |
| 06:29.15 | Azar | I just paid $406.00 to my ISP trying to fix connection blips, changed the router... same issue. I really have no idea what next |
| 06:29.17 | user123 | brb, restarting X |
| 06:29.42 | user123 | Azar claim your money back, ask for compensation, and move to a different isp |
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| 06:29.47 | xbmodder_lappy | I want to test skype, is anyone here online/has an ID? |
| 06:29.50 | punsad | Azar: change ISPs? |
| 06:29.58 | Azar | can't |
| 06:30.11 | pourriture_ | well ... it is not entirely true ... she always forgets to put the colon in her scp commands ... but that is cause that is the first thing she tries to learn and she gets all messed up when she does it |
| 06:30.21 | Azar | is not their issue, is the box, the software , the firewall something |
| 06:30.30 | Azar | feels like I am getting highjacked |
| 06:30.37 | punsad | Azar: at minumum, you deserve your money back...that's for damn sure... what the hell did you pay $400 for ? |
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| 06:31.06 | Azar | punsad: $159.00 specialist that came test the lines, and installed new router |
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| 06:31.21 | Azar | punsad: the rest is the router and taxes |
| 06:31.37 | punsad | Azar: okay... so does the router work? |
| 06:31.52 | Azar | absolutely nothing with the ISP on their side shows my connection goes perfect |
| 06:32.02 | Azar | works ofcourse |
| 06:32.18 | punsad | Azar: then what's the problem? |
| 06:32.41 | Azar | I am browsing and while surfing links I get stucked for few seconds up to a minute. Something to to with port 80 |
| 06:32.49 | pourriture_ | punsad, you left last night when we were talking about the quality of oregon pinot noir and micro brews |
| 06:32.58 | punsad | Azar: by the way... a *wireless* router costs about $50 these days |
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| 06:33.09 | Azar | firefox gives me "connection issues" |
| 06:33.13 | dli | punsad, I bought it for $20 |
| 06:33.16 | punsad | pourriture_: yes... |
| 06:33.24 | ruser | what version is mplayer at? |
| 06:33.26 | Azar | punsad: I am not into wireless yet |
| 06:33.29 | punsad | dli: I was giving a conservative estimate |
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| 06:34.04 | punsad | Azar: then you can get an even cheaper one.. the point is that you got majorly robbed... btw - are you a linux user? |
| 06:34.06 | Azar | I suspect either the phone line, either some bug in software |
| 06:34.16 | pourriture_ | punsad, and I was starting to tell you about the fine quality of roe shrimp that we have just now in charleston sc |
| 06:34.17 | `ns` | ruser stable/testing/unstable ? |
| 06:34.18 | Azar | punsad: yes |
| 06:34.30 | punsad | Azar: your topic is decidedly non-debian related |
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| 06:34.42 | punsad | Azar: not that that's a problem |
| 06:34.44 | Azar | punsad: I use ADSL lines, only the ISP router would work |
| 06:34.59 | k-god | How do I set up freenx server? |
| 06:35.05 | ruser | `ns` pardon me? ah. you are about mplayer. well, was just currious if i should recompile it, i don't like prepackaged mplayer |
| 06:35.20 | punsad | pourriture_: sounds good |
| 06:35.24 | pourriture_ | punsad, my shrimp topic is debian related ... just look at the debian logo :) |
| 06:35.34 | Azar | yes indeed, is out of topic sorry for the out-of-line my g/f is not a geek |
| 06:35.36 | punsad | pourriture_: hehe |
| 06:35.55 | ruser | gah, how the hell to i get direct rendering to work... |
| 06:36.40 | `ns` | ruser ... you might try http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ |
| 06:36.42 | Azar | tarzeau |
| 06:36.46 | punsad | Azar: are you allowing port 80 on the firewall? |
| 06:36.48 | ruser | `ns` figured |
| 06:37.01 | Azar | punsad: yes |
| 06:37.20 | punsad | Azar: could it be a problem with the browser? |
| 06:37.33 | pourriture_ | punsad, http://tinyurl.com/zzh23 is where I am going next week ... we are cooking jerk chicken ... and homebrew to beat the band |
| 06:37.53 | Azar | punsad: I guess it could, new at Firefox here, don't know how reliable can be |
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| 06:38.22 | punsad | pourriture_: that looks like a lot of fun |
| 06:38.50 | Azar | plus I have no idea how to apply the latest patches as advised in my security news in e-mail |
| 06:39.20 | punsad | Azar: also - could there be a problem in general with the computer you are using? Do all computers experience this problem? dunno if you have multiple ones to try .. |
| 06:39.32 | ruser | hrm. should i compile mplayer using the regular make, or make-kpkg or something |
| 06:39.46 | punsad | Azar: what operating system are you using? |
| 06:39.57 | Azar | punsad: both boxes are connected to the router and both have browser hiccups |
| 06:40.01 | peterS | ruser: simple thing is to pull down binaries from ftp.nerim.net |
| 06:40.11 | Azar | Debian Etch on this one, Debian Sarge on the other |
| 06:40.12 | peterS | ruser: "/msg dpkg marillat" for details |
| 06:40.29 | ruser | peterS my laptop is rather weak, i have it compiled it before, figured since i'm updating stuff it is time to update it too |
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| 06:40.42 | ruser | peterS and wanted to do it the `right way` |
| 06:41.01 | peterS | ruser: the 'right way' on Debian is rarely to compile something yourself. we believe in Other People's Binaries, to use a gentooism |
| 06:41.08 | Azar | netstat shows me lots of jammed established loopbacks when this happens |
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| 06:41.13 | peterS | ruser: but if you do want to build it yourself, by all means use 'make' |
| 06:41.32 | ruser | peterS agreed, but that's prbly the only package which will i not get in binary form |
| 06:41.39 | Azar | firefox seems to chocke on something |
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| 06:42.08 | Azar | bah, I will have to get used to it. It's ok |
| 06:42.37 | punsad | Azar: you know... this is not the answer at all you are looking for... but I *hate* web surfing on linux.... I've just never had good experience with it... |
| 06:42.38 | sid | Azar: same here |
| 06:42.44 | sid | It will crash the system now and then. |
| 06:42.46 | himsky1 | Hi! I hope to build a team to do this RealMultiCursor GNU project, anyone join me? |
| 06:43.13 | Azar | punsad: I quit using XP 10 months ago. |
| 06:43.22 | punsad | I know I'm doing something wrong... but since I don't use linux but for server application and irc... that's fine with me |
| 06:43.40 | Azar | sid , my Debian never crashed, I rather think firefox has unsolved bugs |
| 06:44.01 | punsad | Azar: so... for say.. 9 months things were working fine... then your ISP screwed up? |
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| 06:44.41 | Azar | punsad: first I thought that my router is old: a LinkSys 6 years old so I replaced with a new one |
| 06:44.46 | punsad | Azar: try surfin the net using some simple browser like dillo and see if you have problems... you won't be able to access and ssl sites |
| 06:44.57 | himsky1 | Azar: it is a good new to Bill Gate |
| 06:45.11 | punsad | Azar: s/and/any/ |
| 06:45.48 | Azar | hmm I could use links, not sure if I can get CLI to access me to forms on webmail |
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| 06:46.21 | atrus | i don't much care for some of their UI decisions, but i thought epiphany-browser seemed awfully quick. |
| 06:46.43 | simonrvn | punsad: dillo doesn't support ssl ... |
| 06:47.09 | simonrvn | w3m does, lynx does, links does (IIRC), ... |
| 06:47.10 | punsad | simonrvn: I think I mentioned that |
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| 06:47.31 | k-god | simonrvn: Add browsex to that list. |
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| 06:47.40 | simonrvn | *my* point is those 'simple browsers' support ssl |
| 06:47.46 | pourriture | simonrvn, ... I will vouch for punsad ... he mentioned it |
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| 06:47.49 | punsad | k-god: is that a console app? |
| 06:47.52 | simonrvn | k-god: *nods* |
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| 06:48.09 | Azar | punsad: thanks for the support , I might find some day what is going on... funny thing is I checked all logs around, nothing about disconnection, is just hanging like a piece of smoked ham in the attic |
| 06:48.10 | k-god | punsad: No, it's a graphical browser implemented in Tcl/Tk |
| 06:48.27 | Azar | which brings me back to firefox |
| 06:48.33 | k-god | punsad: Included in the LNX-BBC bootable businesscard Linux CD. |
| 06:48.44 | simonrvn | aieee |
| 06:49.22 | pourriture | Azar, while you are mentioning firefox ... is it just me or is firefox now heavier than mizilla? |
| 06:49.27 | bengrubb | hey whats a command to see all the nics i have on my debian macine with their name and identificationj i.e "eth0" |
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| 06:49.28 | pourriture | mozilla |
| 06:49.30 | punsad | Azar: I don't like firefox in linux |
| 06:49.50 | dli | bengrubb, ifconfig -a |
| 06:49.52 | ruser | bengrubb /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 06:49.53 | Azar | pourriture: I guess it might get as heavier as the user wishes, I did not install any plugins with it |
| 06:49.54 | bengrubb | thanks |
| 06:50.14 | ruser | punsad what's wrong with it in linux? |
| 06:50.17 | k-god | pourriture: Hard to say. One of the things Firefox does is aggressively cache viewed pages. |
| 06:50.29 | streuner | ruser: use plenty of RAM |
| 06:50.31 | k-god | pourriture: ... in a way that allows it to grow to 1.3 GB and more of swap. |
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| 06:50.34 | Azar | punsad: I have no other means to access my web-based mailbox. "it's in the forms" |
| 06:50.39 | dli | k-god, yes, go get 4GB ram |
| 06:50.39 | k-god | pourriture: ... and that's on OS X. |
| 06:50.40 | ruser | streuner in'st that the same in windows |
| 06:50.54 | streuner | ruser: its in almost all modern browsers |
| 06:50.54 | k-god | dli: I'm sorry, that's simply a bug. |
| 06:51.08 | punsad | ruser: I wish I knew what I was doing wrong... I just know that on my dual boot thinkpad, firefox is much slower when I boot to debian,than when I use it in xp |
| 06:51.13 | bengrubb | ruser, dli: how can i like scroll up |
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| 06:51.14 | ruser | streuner so, how does that relate to my question? |
| 06:51.28 | ruser | bengrubb shift+pageup shift+pagedown |
| 06:51.29 | pourriture | dillo is impressively fast ... unless you want content |
| 06:51.33 | redblades | No volume control elements and/or devices found. |
| 06:51.37 | pourriture | heheheheheheh |
| 06:51.38 | bengrubb | thanks |
| 06:51.38 | bnovc | k-god, this sidenet thing from that site seems cool |
| 06:51.45 | bengrubb | thats been annoying me for ages |
| 06:51.45 | redblades | I get this message when I try to oppen volume control |
| 06:51.52 | bnovc | k-god, thanks :) |
| 06:51.59 | streuner | ruser: what was your question? :-) |
| 06:52.03 | Azar | good night honorables |
| 06:52.18 | ruser | streuner lol, what's wrong with firefox AND linux |
| 06:52.18 | punsad | hazard__: good night... and good luck! |
| 06:52.32 | ruser | streuner i mean, them working together |
| 06:52.33 | streuner | ruser: well, we answered your question, right? |
| 06:52.35 | pourriture | k-god, you use fink at all? |
| 06:52.47 | streuner | ruser: they work good, as long as you have *ENOUGH* RAM |
| 06:52.48 | k-god | bnovc: Worked for me, a ways back. |
| 06:52.51 | k-god | pourriture: Yeah, sorta. |
| 06:53.02 | ruser | streuner so, how does it make it worse under linux then under windows |
| 06:53.04 | streuner | ruser: so buy more RAM OR don't use it |
| 06:53.06 | k-god | pourriture: It's pretty increadible. |
| 06:53.07 | bnovc | k-god, know if it supports multiple IEs at once? 6 is installing right now |
| 06:53.08 | punsad | struener: I believe I instigated the question with my statement of how unhappy I am with firefox under linux |
| 06:53.23 | ruser | streuner i have 256, and serves me well |
| 06:53.50 | ruser | punsad, correct |
| 06:53.52 | punsad | streuner: again... I was the once complaining about it... and fwiw - I don't use it. |
| 06:53.53 | k-god | pourriture: It combines the user-friendliness of Debian, the speedy installs of Gentoo, and the policy-driven coherence of Red Hat with BSD's feature-rich userland. |
| 06:54.01 | k-god | bnovc: NFC. |
| 06:54.06 | streuner | ruser: there are some lightweighted browser for linux as well, i.e. dillo |
| 06:54.18 | k-god | streuner: Lightweight and feature-free. |
| 06:54.19 | bnovc | k-god, erm? |
| 06:54.20 | ruser | streuner that's not my question, duh! |
| 06:54.25 | pourriture | k-god, I have been using a mac for about a week now ... and I really like what I see ... but it is not very mac-like |
| 06:54.26 | k-god | bnovc: I'm underwhelmed. |
| 06:55.00 | k-god | pourriture: If you're as familar as I am with Debian, there's a lot that (from a Debian Linux geek's PoV) is sadly lacking on OS X). |
| 06:55.11 | k-god | pourriture: Mind, OSX >> Windows. |
| 06:55.11 | punsad | ruser: lemme ask you this... when you surf.. do the page come up instantly or is there a noticeable delay? |
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| 06:55.49 | pourriture | k-god ... that reminds me that canada combines US culture , French technology and British quisine |
| 06:55.50 | ruser | punsad only delay if new host, which needs ip resolved |
| 06:55.58 | Alex1 | hello |
| 06:56.07 | k-god | pourriture: Quite. |
| 06:56.08 | ruser | pourriture britain has cuisine? |
| 06:56.10 | himsky1 | Alex1, Hello! |
| 06:56.11 | Alex1 | someone can help me using alsa |
| 06:56.21 | ruser | Alex1 try unmuting the devices |
| 06:56.25 | k-god | pourriture: ... and DC is a city of southern efficiency and northern charm. |
| 06:56.27 | pourriture | ruser, no ... that is the point |
| 06:56.29 | k-god | bbiam |
| 06:56.33 | redblades | No volume control elements and/or devices found. <--- how do I fix this??????? |
| 06:56.39 | streuner | ruser: do you have a debian related question? |
| 06:56.43 | punsad_ | ruser: if you 'new host' oh.. if you connect to a new host. I see |
| 06:57.33 | ruser | streuner i was holding a converstaion with someone else, where you tried answering my question, out of context, and with no apparent answer, hence you can now clam offtopic, cause it is not exactly debian related, but w/e |
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| 06:57.37 | himsky1 | redblades, is it hardware problem? |
| 06:57.46 | ruser | punsad_, why sarcasm? |
| 06:57.58 | rodrig | if my function receives parameters with double quotes in bash, how do i protect these double quotes in $@? |
| 06:57.58 | redblades | Well, it was working yesterday |
| 06:58.05 | punsad_ | ruser: that wasn't sarcasm... it was an honest statement |
| 06:58.07 | Alex1 | i have sarge with kernel 2.4.27-3 |
| 06:58.21 | ruser | punsad, but generaly work flowless for me under debian. and i justtested with some of the pages, and i don't see any significan delays |
| 06:58.34 | ruser | punsad perhaps i'm just used to them. |
| 06:58.42 | pourriture | punsad, you are Conan the Grammarian too I see |
| 06:58.46 | streuner | ruser: if you want *hold* a convo with somebody you should pm, we are here in a channel, so prepared many other people see what you writing... |
| 06:58.46 | Alex1 | i have this error running alsaconf |
| 06:58.46 | redblades | So, I don't see how it could be... |
| 06:58.50 | punsad_ | ryser: how fast is your processor? |
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| 06:59.15 | suppaman | hello |
| 06:59.17 | ruser | streuner correct, that's why things are prefixed, and it does not really help to asnwer questions taken out of context. |
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| 06:59.26 | ruser | punsad p3 mobile |
| 06:59.27 | Alex1 | http://phpfi.com/117606 |
| 06:59.33 | Alex1 | someone can help me? |
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| 06:59.52 | punsad_ | ruser: what's the MHz? |
| 06:59.58 | redblades | Hi, suppaman |
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| 07:00.07 | ruser | punsad 1.13ghz |
| 07:00.33 | punsad_ | ruser: forgetaboutit... I'm on a P3 500MHz... this is the difference. |
| 07:00.34 | ruser | alex1 unmute your contorllers, via alsamixer |
| 07:00.44 | dli | how do I get boot device menu from a thinkpad? |
| 07:00.49 | pourriture | "Madam, this is the kind of errant pedantry up with which I shall not put!" |
| 07:00.50 | Alex1 | ruser, already done |
| 07:00.58 | ruser | Alex1 so what's the problem? |
| 07:01.14 | streuner | dli: do you have manual ready? |
| 07:01.18 | ruser | Alex1 add your user to audo group |
| 07:01.23 | Alex1 | ruser, already done |
| 07:01.29 | Alex1 | ruser, no sound |
| 07:01.31 | punsad_ | dli: F12 |
| 07:01.38 | dli | punsad, thanks |
| 07:01.44 | suppaman | I'm having a "eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device", yesterday the lil bastard worked fine |
| 07:01.50 | punsad_ | dli: it *should* say that during boot, no? |
| 07:01.51 | Alex1 | ruser, i type lspci -n on http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 07:02.03 | streuner | suppaman: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 07:02.08 | Alex1 | it responds 11020008YesCreative LabsSB0400 Audigy2 Valuesnd-emu10k1 |
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| 07:02.44 | redblades | KSB came up with an error messag asking for some packages, but when I installed them, it says cdrdao required root privilages. |
| 07:02.50 | suppaman | streuner: do you think it's a config problem ? |
| 07:03.06 | punsad_ | suppaman: could there be something wrong physically with the connection? |
| 07:03.18 | streuner | suppaman: well, we need more infos to make suggestions about... |
| 07:03.43 | pourriture | is it only amusing to me that so many windows users come into a channel such as this and ask how linux works .... and I cannot figure out how windows works? |
| 07:03.54 | redblades | when I open K3B setup, it jsut opens a blank window! |
| 07:03.59 | streuner | suppaman: but, in most cases its not wrong to look at interfaces first |
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| 07:04.35 | streuner | suppaman: why eth1, do you have 2 NIC's in this box? |
| 07:04.51 | suppaman | yes I have, a PCI and an ISA |
| 07:05.18 | streuner | suppaman: ok, why not just throw 1 of them out? |
| 07:05.27 | k-god | pourriture: strewht. |
| 07:05.33 | k-god | pourriture: strewth, even. |
| 07:05.46 | suppaman | the ISA is having problem, yesterday I upgraded to 2.6 from 2.4.27, at first boot the module loading lead to eth0 and eth1 being swapped so I configured them by hand |
| 07:05.52 | suppaman | streuner: because I need two |
| 07:05.54 | ruser | Alex1 what applicaiton are you testing the sound with? tyr stopping sound daemons (susch as arts, etc.) |
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| 07:06.04 | streuner | suppaman: why? |
| 07:06.10 | k-god | pourriture: Was hanging out on a fedora channel earlier today. Everthing's all "foo doesn't work" and GUI configurator based. That crap's the death of IRC support IMO. |
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| 07:06.25 | suppaman | streuner: you approach is pretty zenish, I want to have two nics, that shouldn't be a big problem |
| 07:06.28 | Alex1 | ruser, no artsd or esd are running |
| 07:06.39 | suppaman | the point is why it used to work and now it doesn't anymore |
| 07:06.59 | streuner | suppaman: not a big, but you have one already ;-) |
| 07:07.14 | ruser | k-god i was in server room our compute nodes arrived with fedora core, if you use gui to configure netwrok interfaces, and dont' restart the network interfaces right out of the gui, you can't open a xterm or anything else... which is fucked up |
| 07:07.14 | sid | http://digg.com/technology/Why_Microsoft_will_fail. |
| 07:07.19 | streuner | suppaman: if there is no need, to solve a problem, why make one? |
| 07:07.35 | ruser | Alex1 the applicaiton you are testing with is it capable of alsa output? |
| 07:07.48 | suppaman | streuner: I have this computer as a gw, throw out a card isn't a solution to me |
| 07:07.51 | Alex1 | beep-media-player |
| 07:07.54 | streuner | suppaman: do you have the second NIC configured in interfaces yet? |
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| 07:08.16 | k-god | ruser: Heh. Must kill lo as well. |
| 07:08.25 | cahoot | Alex1: always use something simple like aplay to test alsa per se |
| 07:08.33 | suppaman | streuner: yes, the interfaces file has remained the same except with 2.6 the pci module is loaded first so eth1 and eth0 were swapped, so I changed the eth0 and eth1 entries in file |
| 07:08.50 | pourriture | k-god, I see the reverse ... when I go to a windows box I have to think about how things REALLY work ... and then hunt for the little clicky box that has the same effct as a line that I would have changed using vi ... only thing is vi is quiker |
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| 07:09.03 | Unimatrix9 | hello all |
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| 07:09.07 | suppaman | streuner: by "remined the same" I mean the computer has been working at least for a year |
| 07:09.08 | k-god | suppaman: You should be able to swap load order by using an /etc/modules file and specifying one driver first. |
| 07:09.20 | suppaman | k-god: ok but I just renamed the two entries |
| 07:09.24 | k-god | pourriture: a-fuckin-men. |
| 07:09.30 | Unimatrix9 | how do i install an package from bash thats on the desktop? .deb file |
| 07:09.37 | suppaman | Unimatrix9: dpkg |
| 07:09.40 | streuner | suppaman: so why not just use 2.4.x kernel? |
| 07:09.42 | k-god | suppaman: Only matters if the interface names are significant to you. |
| 07:09.48 | k-god | Unimatrix9: dpkg -i <filename> |
| 07:09.56 | Unimatrix9 | thanx |
| 07:09.56 | suppaman | k-god: they aren't |
| 07:09.58 | Alex1 | cahoot, voltron:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver# aplay <- it is stopped ... no sound |
| 07:09.59 | k-god | Unimatrix9: Your desktop is actually a directory under $HOME |
| 07:10.09 | k-god | suppaman: Then it doesn't matter, right ;-) |
| 07:10.28 | suppaman | k-god: but now the isa card interfaces won't go up and I don't know why, more I can't figure why yestarday it went with same kernel and all |
| 07:10.33 | cahoot | Alex1: aplay /usr/share/sounds/*wav |
| 07:10.44 | k-god | suppaman: It's a bit of a pain when you've got a wired-in, racked server with a half-dozen interfaces and they get swapped every kernel upgrade. |
| 07:11.04 | suppaman | k-god: it's a home gw |
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| 07:11.08 | Alex1 | cahoot, voltron:/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver# aplay /usr/share/sounds/*wav |
| 07:11.08 | Alex1 | Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/k3b_error1.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono |
| 07:11.08 | Alex1 | Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/k3b_success1.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono |
| 07:11.15 | Alex1 | no sound again |
| 07:11.28 | k-god | pourriture: Weird thing is that there are actually CLIs for a lot of the Windows config stuff. Even if it means doing cli registry edits. |
| 07:11.35 | pourriture | k .. going to bed ... I am going to attempt to seduce the wife and FAIL .... so everyone say a quick prayer to the big-sky-dude of your choice for me |
| 07:11.37 | suppaman | k-god: but I think an half-dozen interfaces could be pita |
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| 07:11.45 | cahoot | Alex1: ok run alsamixer and unmute and set volume levels |
| 07:11.46 | k-god | simonrvn: S&M? |
| 07:11.49 | simonrvn | sure, break when you've been working for months.... |
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| 07:12.03 | simonrvn | k-god: that'd be easier to deal with... |
| 07:12.04 | k-god | suppaman: Particularly on a four-network gateway ;-) |
| 07:12.12 | k-god | simonrvn: PICTURES! |
| 07:12.17 | suppaman | oh here it is |
| 07:12.25 | simonrvn | send me a camera ;p |
| 07:12.58 | vitry | hi people; I'm finding a solution for run a SB XFi under linux |
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| 07:13.17 | vitry | Is it imposible? |
| 07:13.20 | simonrvn | you'd think without having changed *one thing*, that @someobjectClass would work, but now it doesn't want to *grr* |
| 07:13.22 | streuner | suppaman: ipmasq? |
| 07:13.29 | simonrvn | a who? |
| 07:13.38 | suppaman | streuner: ? |
| 07:13.41 | vitry | in this moment |
| 07:13.41 | pourriture | k-god, ... CLI is my windows life ... I figure that there is always a way to simplify ... in CLI is slimpler |
| 07:13.47 | streuner | suppaman: do you use ipmasq? |
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| 07:14.08 | johnsu01 | Why is it that when I mount a samba share from my sarge box, a directory on the share shows a different user and group than what I see on the same directory mounted from my unstable laptop? |
| 07:14.09 | suppaman | streuner: none that I'm aware of |
| 07:14.22 | suppaman | streuner: masquerading ? |
| 07:14.29 | streuner | !ipmasq |
| 07:14.29 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 07:14.46 | k-god | pourriture: And hopefully more consistent. There's a long rant wanting to come out of that. Mix of my 'Doze, OSX, Linux, and Debian experience. |
| 07:14.58 | vitry | a solution for run a SB XFi under linux? |
| 07:14.59 | suppaman | oh I think it was a program I never heard of, yes I'm (trying to use) |
| 07:15.19 | Alex1 | cahoot, done no mute and all volumes up ... no sound |
| 07:15.20 | k-god | johnsu01: Depends on how you're mapping permissions. |
| 07:16.07 | cahoot | Alex1: only one card listed in /proc/asound/cards? |
| 07:16.32 | streuner | ruser: what kind of job do you make actually? |
| 07:16.36 | suppaman | I don't know what the problem is, how can I investigate ? |
| 07:16.42 | Alex1 | cahoot, yes only one |
| 07:16.44 | suppaman | I suspect the ioports isn't right |
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| 07:16.55 | suppaman | but on 2.4.27 I didn't passed the ports to module |
| 07:17.12 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/libpoe-component-oscar-perl_0.03-1_all.deb and http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/libnet-oscar-perl_1.925-1_all.deb are the two deb packages for those libraries that you were looking for. |
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| 07:17.15 | suppaman | could the module's behave have been changed from 2.4 to 2.6 ?? |
| 07:17.31 | ruser | and our fileserver arrived with debian |
| 07:17.34 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, ah well i got it working somehow else i cant recall |
| 07:17.37 | pourriture | k-god, I have joined 2 macs to AD ... and it went smooother than XP does |
| 07:17.43 | dondelelcaro | bnovc: the failure you were getting was because you didn't have Net::Oscar installed. |
| 07:17.44 | bnovc | dondelelcaro, thanks for your help :) |
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| 07:17.50 | bnovc | indeed, i installed that |
| 07:17.50 | k-god | pourriture: I'm shocked, shocked... |
| 07:17.51 | ruser | erm. s/debian/gentoo/ |
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| 07:18.28 | cahoot | Alex1: tge fact that you can run aplay and alsamixer tells that alsa is working ok and you have correct perms. I can see no other problem than mixer settings or hw error like wrong cabling |
| 07:18.35 | suppaman | I'm gonna investigate in POST screen |
| 07:18.38 | suppaman | bye for now |
| 07:18.40 | suppaman | thanks |
| 07:18.50 | Alex1 | cahoot, on win it works so no cabling errors |
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| 07:19.21 | johnsu01 | k-god: Guess I need to read more about this. I can write to the share from one system but not the other. |
| 07:19.22 | Alex1 | cahoot, if i update-modules i have 4 error |
| 07:19.29 | pourriture | k-god, my vision for a good network ... linux on the backend and osx on the workstations |
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| 07:19.53 | cahoot | Alex1: since aplay/alsamixer runs thoseerrors are of no importance |
| 07:20.34 | Alex1 | cahoot, where alsa writes log? |
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| 07:21.07 | k-god | pourriture: My vision of a good network: BYOL |
| 07:21.34 | k-god | pourriture: http://zgp.org/~dmarti/blosxom/business/byol.html |
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| 07:22.24 | k-god | pourriture: If you can define your network in terms of services, ips, users, and authentication tokens (with as much SSO via ssh keys, kerberos, ldap, foo, as possible), it really doesn't matter what the clients are. |
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| 07:22.52 | tainted- | anyone know how to set up 'round-robin' dns? |
| 07:22.52 | k-god | pourriture: I'd have a strong pref for OSX for hoi polloi and the geeks can run what they want, 'Doze banished to where not possible to eradicate. |
| 07:22.53 | simonrvn | duh |
| 07:23.19 | k-god | tainted-: First: assume a spherical robin... |
| 07:23.22 | Alex1 | cahoot, http://phpfi.com/117607 see it please |
| 07:23.36 | tainted- | ok |
| 07:23.40 | k-god | tainted-: http://www.google.com/search?q=round-robin+dns+howto&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official |
| 07:23.48 | k-god | simonrvn: ?? |
| 07:23.56 | simonrvn | figured it out |
| 07:24.06 | amee2k | where can i find my "LANG and LC_ALL" settings? |
| 07:24.07 | ruser | i was currious how does these packages work together vim-per vim-ruby and others... do they get combined into one vim with all the compiled flags or? |
| 07:24.12 | ruser | amee2k type locale |
| 07:24.24 | amee2k | ty |
| 07:24.45 | k-god | ruser: I think they're exclusive, no? |
| 07:25.14 | cahoot | Alex1: read /proc/asound/version |
| 07:25.27 | ruser | k-god and if i want them to be combined somehow, is that posible at all? |
| 07:25.44 | redblades | I wan't to get rid of every trace of KDE. |
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| 07:25.48 | redblades | How do I do that? |
| 07:26.02 | streuner | redblades: try /msg dpkg remove KDE |
| 07:26.07 | k-god | ruser: Not sure. Check the package descriptions: apt-cache show ... |
| 07:26.16 | k-god | !remove kde |
| 07:26.16 | dpkg | from memory, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs kdelibs-bin (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 07:26.20 | ruser | k-god doen't mention anything about it |
| 07:26.25 | Alex1 | cahoot, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8. |
| 07:26.25 | Alex1 | Compiled on Mar 27 2006 for kernel 2.4.27-3-686 with versioned symbols. |
| 07:26.51 | cahoot | Alex1: ok - and what sound card is this - some usb device? |
| 07:26.56 | redblades | Awesome |
| 07:26.57 | k-god | ruser: Try installing 'em and see what happens ;-) |
| 07:27.11 | Alex1 | cahoot, SB0400 Audigy2 Value |
| 07:27.25 | redblades | After unpacking 189MB disk space will be freed. |
| 07:27.28 | redblades | Yay! |
| 07:28.16 | redblades | Okay, the other issue is, how do I remove php-5.0.2 ? I compiled it and make uninstall doesn't work |
| 07:28.38 | streuner | redblades: /usr/local/ |
| 07:28.41 | ruser | k-god mmm, not very found of that concept, but oddly enough i do have them mixed, installing latexsuit with vim, gonna see what's that gonna give |
| 07:28.42 | redblades | I aslo wish to remove httpd-2.2.0 (apache |
| 07:28.48 | streuner | redblades: and use rm |
| 07:28.48 | redblades | streuner, not there |
| 07:29.22 | Alex1 | cahoot, see dmesg here: http://phpfi.com/117608 |
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| 07:29.29 | streuner | redblades: well, use locate or find |
| 07:29.31 | ruser | peterS, and when i was saying the right way, i menat fakeroot, just wasn't sure about it at a time |
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| 07:29.48 | k-god | ruser: Debian makes testing installs very easy. |
| 07:30.13 | k-god | ruser: Either do a --show-only or --no-act install (shows what will happen, doesn't do it), or simply install and see what happens. |
| 07:30.20 | ruser | k-god sorta :) cna't really roll back tho |
| 07:30.23 | k-god | ruser: If anything's going to be removed, you can cancel and nothing happens. |
| 07:30.25 | redblades | It doesn't find anything! |
| 07:30.32 | redblades | I'm sure I installed it... |
| 07:30.41 | k-god | ruser: If you use aptitude, you pretty much _can_ roll back, as all installs/removalls are logged. |
| 07:30.42 | redblades | I guess this is a good thing... |
| 07:30.48 | k-god | ruser: ... including automatic ones. |
| 07:30.51 | k-god | !tell ruser about aptitude |
| 07:30.56 | redblades | Okay, Apache2, how do I remove that? |
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| 07:31.10 | ruser | k-god uhm... i do use aptitude, but i never heard of anyone downgrading debian |
| 07:31.13 | k-god | ruser: I've effed up bigtime with 100s of packages wiped out. Script-driven reinstall fixes that. |
| 07:31.15 | streuner | redblades: apache2 should run, try ps aux | grep apache to see if it runs actually... |
| 07:31.27 | k-god | ruser: Um. Who mentioned downgrading? |
| 07:31.32 | ruser | k-god aye, that why i keep dpgk -l around |
| 07:31.33 | amee2k | hm... where can i change my "LANG" setting? |
| 07:31.46 | k-god | amee2k: export LANG=<language> |
| 07:31.49 | redblades | streuner, what do you mean it should? |
| 07:31.56 | ruser | k-god that's what i meant by rolling back. downgrade to old packages. sorry for bein inexplicit |
| 07:31.59 | k-god | amee2k: ... or 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to add/remove locale support. |
| 07:32.02 | k-god | !locale |
| 07:32.02 | dpkg | i guess locale is something to help you using an application you don't understand because it's written in a language you don't know, by making you not understand it in a language you know. <man 7 locale> for real information. |
| 07:32.12 | ruser | amee2k to check use locale |
| 07:32.15 | k-god | ruser: NP. |
| 07:32.15 | streuner | redblades: you don't know if its installed or not... |
| 07:32.21 | redblades | It is |
| 07:32.30 | amee2k | ty |
| 07:32.39 | cahoot | Alex1: looks like you've had a kernel oops |
| 07:32.40 | k-god | feh, nx isn't happy. |
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| 07:33.14 | streuner | redblades: what does 'dpkg -libc6 | tail -1' say, btw? |
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| 07:33.39 | cahoot | Alex1: maybe related to your webcam - I'd suggest a reboot |
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| 07:34.00 | streuner | redblades: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say, btw? |
| 07:34.14 | Alex1 | cahoot, i reboot |
| 07:34.19 | Wettoad | I'm trying to isntall debian on a system with an Adaptec 4805sas drive which dies with the open source aacraid driver. Is there a way to use a custom kernel image iwth the installer or atleast a custom module? |
| 07:34.41 | k-god | bbl |
| 07:34.46 | k-god | Wettoad: chroot install! |
| 07:34.52 | k-god | !tell Wettoad about chroot install |
| 07:35.24 | redblades | ii libc6 2.3.6-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 07:36.03 | streuner | using other than sarge/stable isn't a good idea, in order to run apache |
| 07:36.38 | ruser | alright, gonna catch some slep |
| 07:36.38 | streuner | !info libc6 testing |
| 07:37.03 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.6-7 (etch), Packaged size: 4613 kB, Installed size: 10920 kB |
| 07:37.20 | ruser | thanks everyone for tips/tricks/help, have a good night |
| 07:37.31 | streuner | ruser: you are welcome |
| 07:37.36 | ruser | streuner boo :) |
| 07:38.19 | streuner | redblades: running apache only for tests or as production server? |
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| 07:42.55 | redblades | Tests, atm, but... "One day, I'll have a REAL server" ! |
| 07:43.08 | Codemaster_ | hi all, where can i find my current kernel .config file ? |
| 07:43.18 | voltagex_ | is there a way I can get a complete list of hardware that's in my machine? Not just lspci/lsusb - something like Sandra for Windows... |
| 07:43.41 | streuner | Codemaster_: /boot/ |
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| 07:44.48 | Alex1 | cahoot, http://phpfi.com/117609 <-- error on boot |
| 07:44.48 | streuner | Codemaster_: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 07:45.03 | voltagex_ | streuner: for kernel .config? isn't it /usr/src/linux usually? |
| 07:45.08 | Codemaster_ | streuner, mhh thanks, would be config-2.4.... something then |
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| 07:45.13 | Alex1 | alsa does not start ... it write an error but i can't read it (too fast) |
| 07:45.14 | voltagex_ | ah |
| 07:45.27 | voltagex_ | Alex1: try typing dmesg | less |
| 07:45.38 | voltagex_ | and why the hell am I _ |
| 07:46.20 | Codemaster_ | streuner, i'm on 2.4.27-3-586 for now and i wanna get to 2.6.8, |
| 07:46.32 | brownie17 | what's all this about a public key? |
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| 07:47.03 | Alex1 | VoltageX, are the same of syslog |
| 07:47.28 | Alex1 | on boot it says alsatcl don't start etc but i find no log about it now |
| 07:47.58 | streuner | Codemaster_: what does 'dpkg -l libc6' say? |
| 07:48.19 | cahoot | Alex1: any card listed in /proc/asound/cards? |
| 07:48.19 | simonrvn | i'd inserted an OC for some ACL, and it has an attribute that's ok to read anonymously, but since the OC includes it in MAY, it was matching, so it was erroring out "false positively", so i was getting access denied warnings. oh well. now i gotta figure out where to put the thing other than further down |
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| 07:48.53 | Alex1 | cahoot, 2 cards alsa and usb |
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| 07:49.17 | cahoot | Alex1: would be you webcam and your SB then |
| 07:49.21 | Codemaster_ | streuner, mhh 2.3.2ds1-22sa, is that enough? |
| 07:49.27 | redblades | I'm trying to rip using grip to mp3 what do I need? |
| 07:49.32 | Alex1 | exactly |
| 07:49.35 | VoltageX | Alex1: I'm not sure |
| 07:49.36 | cahoot | Alex1: which is card0? |
| 07:49.42 | Alex1 | cahoot, ALSA |
| 07:49.47 | knight_Lord | I just lost 4 disks on my raid5 array. Looks like one of the 3ware 9000 controllers foobared. I can't access the disks anymore even with fdisk. But nothing shows on the logs. Where should i look? |
| 07:49.54 | streuner | Codemaster_: check out backports.org, there is a 2.6.15 kernel there, that was last week |
| 07:49.54 | cahoot | Alex1: huh? |
| 07:50.07 | Alex1 | 0 [Audigy ]: Audigy - Sound Blaster Audigy |
| 07:50.07 | Alex1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.08 | liable | redblades: lame |
| 07:50.56 | liable | knight_Lord: cards bios? |
| 07:51.04 | cahoot | Alex1: FYI both are alsa - one is pci (using snd-emu10k1) the other is usb (using snd-usb-audio) |
| 07:51.13 | Codemaster_ | streuner, alright i will take a looky thanks for your help ;-) |
| 07:51.34 | Alex1 | cahoot, ps aux | grep alsa give me no result |
| 07:51.37 | redblades | No, you are lame! |
| 07:51.48 | cahoot | Alex1: it shouldn't |
| 07:52.05 | knight_Lord | liable card bios? |
| 07:52.07 | liable | redblades: erm, the encoder. |
| 07:52.09 | redblades | I know, I know, I was just joking |
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| 07:52.17 | streuner | haha |
| 07:52.24 | cahoot | Alex1: now run alsamixer again |
| 07:52.29 | liable | knight_Lord: doesnt have any thingo you can look in at boot? |
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| 07:53.02 | Alex1 | cahoot, here is the error on boot: Setting up ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'No state is present for card U0x4710x30c'. done. <- i reproduce it /etc/init.d/alsa start |
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| 07:53.25 | cahoot | Alex1: run alsamixer |
| 07:53.38 | Alex1 | ok |
| 07:53.50 | Alex1 | unmute and up all volume isn't it? |
| 07:54.02 | knight_Lord | liable yes |
| 07:54.12 | knight_Lord | liable i don't know the exact version |
| 07:54.15 | redblades | It can't seem to mount Music CD's... |
| 07:54.30 | knight_Lord | liable i don't have local access to the machine at the moment |
| 07:54.30 | streuner | you don't mount audio |
| 07:54.40 | cahoot | Alex1: not all the way up - 75% is ok AND disable 'Digital output jack' |
| 07:54.46 | redblades | Well, I can't access them anyway |
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| 07:55.10 | knight_Lord | liable but the 3ware client tools now take a long time to start, and only find 1 controller |
| 07:55.13 | liable | knight_Lord: if the card has died, you would expect either errors in kernel logs, or it not to appear at all (ie lspci) |
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| 07:55.59 | knight_Lord | liable i have 2 3ware unkown devices on the lspci |
| 07:56.27 | redblades | does sMSN require KDE? |
| 07:57.05 | streuner | !info smsn |
| 07:57.13 | redblades | !info aMSN |
| 07:57.21 | sid | !info amsn |
| 07:57.44 | redblades | <dpkg> Updating debian files... please wait. ? |
| 07:57.45 | Alex1 | cahoot, i not find 'Digital output jack' |
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| 07:58.21 | streuner | redblades: you could run in general all apps in KDE or GNOME |
| 07:58.29 | redblades | oh. |
| 07:58.38 | redblades | Well, I already had lame |
| 07:58.46 | liable | knight_Lord: so the kernel sees em, but not the disk? |
| 07:58.47 | cahoot | Alex1: grep -A 2 -i jack /var/lib/alsa/asound.state |
| 07:59.07 | Alex1 | cahoot, it give me false |
| 07:59.08 | redblades | I still can't see the CD |
| 07:59.08 | knight_Lord | liable the kernel sees the controllers, but not the disks attached to it |
| 07:59.15 | cahoot | Alex1: good |
| 07:59.24 | knight_Lord | liable and the 3ware tools can't seem to communicate with the controller anymore |
| 07:59.26 | Alex1 | now? |
| 07:59.32 | cahoot | Alex1: aplay |
| 07:59.40 | liable | knight_Lord: bugger |
| 08:00.03 | knight_Lord | liable lucky me it was a backup server |
| 08:00.11 | Alex1 | cahoot, no sound |
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| 08:00.25 | knight_Lord | liable but i don't get why this stuff always happens during the weekends |
| 08:00.41 | liable | knight_Lord: heh, so you can get overtime :) |
| 08:00.47 | cahoot | Alex1: fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p - nothing returned? |
| 08:01.11 | Alex1 | /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p alex 2281 f...m esd |
| 08:01.13 | dpkg | amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.95-2 (sid), Packaged size: 2241 kB, Installed size: 7884 kB |
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| 08:01.21 | cahoot | Alex1: see |
| 08:01.27 | cahoot | Alex1: pkill esd |
| 08:01.54 | Alex1 | cahoot, done |
| 08:01.58 | Alex1 | now? |
| 08:02.02 | cahoot | Alex1: aplay |
| 08:02.19 | Alex1 | no sound again |
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| 08:02.33 | cahoot | Alex1: fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p - nothing returned? |
| 08:02.44 | Alex1 | no entries |
| 08:02.56 | cahoot | Alex1: stuck |
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| 08:03.10 | Alex1 | what? |
| 08:03.19 | cahoot | Alex1: I'm stuck |
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| 08:07.36 | AlienX | weird, my system clock is still reporting 32 minutes fast due to ntp :( |
| 08:08.02 | cahoot | Alex1: one last tip: Try toggling "Audigy Analog/Digital Output" |
| 08:08.44 | Alex1 | cahoot, where? |
| 08:09.22 | cahoot | Alex1: in alsamixer |
| 08:09.38 | cahoot | Alex1: scroll to the right |
| 08:10.09 | Alex1 | i do and after? |
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| 08:10.15 | cahoot | Alex1: aplay |
| 08:10.19 | Alex1 | no |
| 08:10.22 | Alex1 | wait |
| 08:10.27 | Alex1 | i scroll |
| 08:10.42 | Alex1 | how can i toggle "Audigy Analog/Digital Output" ? |
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| 08:10.54 | cahoot | Alex1: hit 'm' or space |
| 08:12.09 | Alex1 | i file only |
| 08:12.14 | Alex1 | Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack |
| 08:12.15 | Alex1 | is it? |
| 08:12.20 | Belisarivs | I have problem. When I log in in GNOME, log out and then log in, Nautilus refuses to start due problem with bonobo. |
| 08:12.20 | cahoot | yes |
| 08:12.47 | Alex1 | no sounds :( |
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| 08:19.49 | `DamN` | Belisarivs: try to delete whole profile ... and create new one |
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| 08:22.00 | Belisarivs | DamN: And deletion of config folder wouldn't be enough? |
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| 08:23.16 | `DamN` | Belisarivs: try it, we'll see ... |
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| 08:23.39 | `DamN` | Belisarivs: I'm not using gnome but my wife had the same prob |
| 08:23.41 | Belisarivs | I did it. Logging out. I'll report soon. |
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| 08:27.15 | suppaman | hello again |
| 08:27.30 | `DamN` | wb |
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| 08:28.00 | Belisarivs | DamN: It helped. Thanks. |
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| 08:28.16 | deeptz | y cant i login with rrot privilige in gnome debian |
| 08:28.22 | deeptz | root |
| 08:29.04 | Belisarivs | deeptz: It isn't good idea to do so. It is disabled by default. |
| 08:29.25 | Belisarivs | deeptz: In GDM. |
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| 08:29.48 | deeptz | gdm.conf |
| 08:29.53 | deeptz | ?? |
| 08:30.10 | valdyn | deeptz: you dont need to log into gdm as root |
| 08:30.19 | Belisarivs | deeptz: Do you use gdm? |
| 08:30.22 | liable | deeptz: why do you want to? what do you want to do? |
| 08:30.49 | Belisarivs | deeptz: It is bad habit from windows to be root still. |
| 08:31.05 | deeptz | i am trying to open nautilus..its not opening.... i hav e installd adobe acrobat reader 7.0.5 taht si not opening |
| 08:31.21 | deeptz | i was wondering may i do not have root privilidge so thsi sis happening |
| 08:31.35 | Belisarivs | loging in as normal user doesn't help? |
| 08:31.47 | valdyn | deeptz: you can use sux or sudo to become root, that's no reason to log into gdm as root |
| 08:32.20 | deeptz | in gnome-terminal if i log in as root will taht help me in opening nautilus |
| 08:32.31 | liable | deeptz: where did you get acrobat from? theres a debian package on marillats repo that should play nice. |
| 08:32.38 | deeptz | adobe.com |
| 08:32.46 | valdyn | !marillat |
| 08:32.46 | dpkg | marillat is probably an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add. If you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>. For specific sources.list lines, ask me about <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 08:32.52 | valdyn | deeptz: use ^^^ |
| 08:33.01 | liable | deeptz: its called acroread |
| 08:33.10 | valdyn | deeptz: and again, use sux or sudo for temporary root, do not log in as root |
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| 08:33.40 | liable | deeptz: try to uninstall the acrobt you got. see if theres instructions. |
| 08:34.11 | deeptz | i am using etch is there any compatibility issue with adode reader 7.0.5 |
| 08:34.37 | streuner | acoread isn't in debian |
| 08:34.39 | valdyn | deeptz: we cannot really support vendor installers |
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| 08:34.43 | bengrubb | howdy everyone, anyone know of the top of their heads, a good firewall package for Debian that is free and can do graphs of individual users bandwidth? |
| 08:34.56 | valdyn | deeptz: particularily not if there's fine working ( though inofficial ) debs |
| 08:35.10 | deeptz | reason being that i was using adode reader on sarge withput any issues |
| 08:35.25 | streuner | deeptz: its not in debian, but marillat makes very good packages... |
| 08:35.33 | valdyn | deeptz: yes im sure there's issues |
| 08:35.47 | valdyn | deeptz: but we dont know about 3rd party software |
| 08:36.05 | cahoot | deeptz: runs ok on etch here |
| 08:36.08 | deeptz | ok ....let me check the one u guys have told at marillat |
| 08:36.24 | streuner | deeptz: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 08:36.28 | valdyn | cahoot: you used adobe's installer? |
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| 08:36.36 | liable | cahoot: the adobe one or marillats/ |
| 08:36.45 | cahoot | valdyn: adobes |
| 08:37.11 | valdyn | cahoot: guess deeptz didnt manually fix depends then |
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| 08:37.44 | cahoot | valdyn: even moved it from one install to the other w/o probs (had a maxtor crashing on me) |
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| 08:38.36 | brick_redux | i installed a USB key, meant to be permanent, and defined it as sda1 in my /etc/fstab. so far so good. my boot fails, though, when mount or fsck (i haven't identified which rc2.d step this is) can't find it - one second later the SCSI emulation comes through and it's recognized. should i compile something into the kernel, put a 'sleep 2' somewhere in my init scripts, ...? |
| 08:38.36 | streuner | deeptz: besides, there are xpdf, kpdf, gv and a lot of other packages as well |
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| 08:38.47 | bengrubb | or can someone direct me somewhere where i can find out a good package that does bandwidth monitoring for individual users (besides google) is there a site that says like all debian packages? |
| 08:39.06 | bengrubb | (3rd party ones) |
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| 08:42.09 | liable | brick_redux: your boot fails? or you get an error message? you could add the needed modules to /etc/modules, then it should get detected before mount. the dir you want to look in is rcS.d |
| 08:42.32 | krnl`- | hi |
| 08:43.36 | simonrvn | bengrubb: no, only official ones |
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| 08:46.22 | redcane | apt.get.org has a list of third party debian repositories |
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| 08:46.42 | redcane | I use vnstat for bandwidth monitoring. |
| 08:46.42 | simonrvn | apt-get |
| 08:46.46 | bengrubb | thankyou |
| 08:46.49 | redcane | It's pretty basic. |
| 08:46.53 | simonrvn | vnstat is in debian |
| 08:46.55 | redcane | (ah, sorry "apt-get.org") |
| 08:47.07 | bengrubb | ok |
| 08:47.37 | redcane | If you want graphs of individual users, you probably need something way more complex. |
| 08:47.45 | bengrubb | but no idea on any firewalls that monitor bandwidth for individuals |
| 08:47.50 | bengrubb | yer |
| 08:48.09 | brick_redux | liable, one part of the boot process fails such that i get the root-pw-or-reboot prompt. i think uhci-hcd is the only necessary module, and that it is already loaded... not sure how to get at the details any closer. |
| 08:48.14 | simonrvn | yeh. vnstat is per interface |
| 08:48.15 | bengrubb | im looking at a (shun me) windows program called Kerio Winroute it does everything but is $399 US |
| 08:48.41 | redcane | Are your users all on different IPs? |
| 08:48.41 | simonrvn | @fuck windows |
| 08:48.47 | bengrubb | yes |
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| 08:48.51 | bengrubb | different ips |
| 08:48.57 | bengrubb | yes f*ck windows indeed |
| 08:49.12 | redblades | How do I get Debian to recognize a Music CD? |
| 08:49.12 | simonrvn | cricket? |
| 08:49.15 | bengrubb | i was thinking ip's but how? |
| 08:49.17 | simonrvn | hmm |
| 08:49.18 | redcane | hmm, off the top of my head (and slighty out of my ass) I believe mrtg can do what you want. |
| 08:49.21 | liable | brick_redux: whats on the stick? |
| 08:49.23 | redblades | I detest W\indows |
| 08:49.31 | bengrubb | lol |
| 08:49.34 | bengrubb | i hate it too |
| 08:49.36 | simonrvn | cricket can use rrdtool |
| 08:49.43 | bengrubb | i NEEEED a MAC NOW! |
| 08:49.48 | redcane | I haven't actually used it, but It can do some pretty detailed graphs.... |
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| 08:49.53 | bengrubb | cool |
| 08:49.59 | redblades | NO! No Mac! |
| 08:50.02 | bengrubb | apt-get mrtg ? |
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| 08:50.14 | simonrvn | this conn. of mine is routed through one ;) |
| 08:50.21 | redcane | I think that should work. It uses SNMP for monitoring.... |
| 08:50.29 | simonrvn | "invalid command mrtg" |
| 08:50.38 | bengrubb | hm wonder if it will stuff up my webserver |
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| 08:51.01 | bengrubb | i don't really care as long as it works |
| 08:51.01 | redcane | apt-get install mrtg... I think it uses SNMP for monitoring, but you will probably need to read their site for info on how to use. it. |
| 08:51.12 | bengrubb | yer im looking for it |
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| 08:51.16 | simonrvn | better to run rrdtool - it's less intensive than mrtg, and does it better |
| 08:51.33 | archimeds | Hi |
| 08:51.45 | liable | brick_redux: you need more than just usb-hcid to get a usb stick to work |
| 08:51.45 | archimeds | im trying to install hal in ubuntu |
| 08:51.46 | bengrubb | ok ill look at both thankyou ill get back to you about it in a seccond |
| 08:51.51 | archimeds | i cant install the deb |
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| 08:52.09 | archimeds | how do you install it? |
| 08:52.10 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 08:52.13 | malign_ | hey jeff |
| 08:52.18 | archimeds | i tryed apt-get install hal.deb |
| 08:52.22 | archimeds | and that didnt work |
| 08:52.27 | tarzeau | !tryed |
| 08:52.28 | dpkg | somebody said tryed was not English. I think you meant to say 'tried'. "tryed" _is_ English, just middle / old English. |
| 08:52.30 | archimeds | its ubuntu horay |
| 08:52.30 | tarzeau | archimeds: dpkg -i the.deb |
| 08:52.37 | jeffrin | i tried to connect 2 laptops using hub |
| 08:52.41 | tarzeau | !ubuntu2debian |
| 08:52.52 | jeffrin | but it is not pinging |
| 08:53.07 | tarzeau | dpkg ubuntu2debian is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ubuntu/uncurse |
| 08:53.07 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 08:53.07 | bengrubb | are they connecting to a gateway? |
| 08:53.10 | malign_ | hi |
| 08:53.13 | bengrubb | of one of the computers |
| 08:53.19 | malign_ | can i use rpm on my debians? |
| 08:53.26 | bengrubb | ie one computer uses the other computer as its gateway |
| 08:53.26 | tarzeau | malign_: yes but i wouldn't |
| 08:53.27 | archimeds | dpkg -i the.deb# dpkg -i hal.deb |
| 08:53.27 | archimeds | dpkg: not found |
| 08:53.31 | archimeds | thats what say |
| 08:53.45 | malign_ | thank you tarzeau |
| 08:53.45 | bengrubb | laptop* |
| 08:53.46 | tarzeau | archimeds: you don't have debian then. or it's badly broken or check your $PATH |
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| 08:53.58 | archimeds | how do i check if not debian |
| 08:54.07 | bengrubb | hehe |
| 08:54.15 | tarzeau | archimeds: if you don't have dpkg, it's not debian |
| 08:54.15 | jeffrin | bengrubb: help me |
| 08:54.17 | malign_ | archimeds: uname -a |
| 08:54.26 | archimeds | # uname -a |
| 08:54.26 | archimeds | SunOS unknown 5.10 Generic_118844-26 i86pc i386 i86pc |
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| 08:54.32 | malign_ | ? |
| 08:54.32 | archimeds | isnt debian? |
| 08:54.32 | malign_ | wtf |
| 08:54.36 | malign_ | haha |
| 08:54.41 | liable | archimeds: i would be surprised if your ubuntu box didnt already have hal installed. apt-get install hald by the way, you will get much better help in #ubuntu |
| 08:54.42 | malign_ | no you fool |
| 08:54.43 | bengrubb | jeffrin: this is simple networking |
| 08:54.48 | malign_ | that is FreeBSD |
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| 08:54.54 | malign_ | but with a sun log |
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| 08:54.59 | archimeds | oh sorry :( |
| 08:55.05 | archimeds | i am wrong channel |
| 08:55.09 | liable | wow |
| 08:55.13 | malign_ | are you serious? |
| 08:55.29 | archimeds | A MOTHER FUCKIN MEN MOTHERFUCKER! |
| 08:55.37 | bengrubb | jeffrin: Are ytou there |
| 08:55.40 | malign_ | solaris ? |
| 08:55.40 | bengrubb | you* |
| 08:55.43 | archimeds | x = 0.200000 |
| 08:55.43 | archimeds | x = 0.300000 |
| 08:55.43 | archimeds | x = 0.400000 |
| 08:55.43 | archimeds | x = 0.500000 |
| 08:55.44 | archimeds | x = 0.600000 |
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| 08:55.45 | jeffrin | bengrubb: yes |
| 08:55.49 | jeffrin | bengrubb: iam here |
| 08:55.58 | malign_ | tarzeau: haha that was hilarious. |
| 08:56.06 | malign_ | no wonder that guy couldn't use apt |
| 08:56.08 | bengrubb | jeffrin: ok are they debian laptops? |
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| 08:56.28 | jeffrin | bengrubb: one is debian and other other is fedora |
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| 08:57.16 | bengrubb | ok well i know the debian one do this "nano /etc/network/interfaces" and edit it to your configurations |
| 08:57.25 | bengrubb | ill do a pastebin |
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| 08:58.02 | jeffrin | bengrubb: i have done ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 up |
| 08:58.16 | bengrubb | and what did you use as its gateway |
| 08:58.32 | ernesto | hello |
| 08:58.33 | jeffrin | bengrubb: i have not set gateway |
| 08:58.47 | ernesto | tftp server help? |
| 08:58.52 | bengrubb | ok |
| 08:58.59 | suppaman | my ISA nic doesn't work with 2.6.16, it works with 2.4.27, I've just booted with 2.4.27 and networking is fine so it's not a wire problem nor a card issue |
| 08:59.12 | ernesto | please |
| 08:59.14 | malign_ | suppaman: they removed ISA support in 2.6 |
| 08:59.21 | malign_ | ISA is too old to support and was taking up space |
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| 08:59.34 | suppaman | malign but I can see isapnp: rows in dmesg |
| 08:59.43 | ernesto | please |
| 08:59.44 | malign_ | don't trust the hype. it's all a lie |
| 08:59.48 | simonrvn | um, since when? my SB card is ISA ... |
| 08:59.59 | bengrubb | jeffrin: did you set it up like this |
| 09:00.00 | bengrubb | 'http://pastebin.com/714957 |
| 09:00.05 | bengrubb | http://pastebin.com/714957 |
| 09:00.25 | malign_ | simon: the HAL now takes care of that |
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| 09:00.30 | bengrubb | use it as its own gatewat |
| 09:00.32 | simonrvn | right |
| 09:00.34 | bengrubb | gateway* |
| 09:00.35 | malign_ | it makes the card appear to the OS as a PCI device |
| 09:00.57 | jeffrin | bengrubb: just wait |
| 09:01.09 | suppaman | malign_: should I switch back to 2.4 then ? |
| 09:01.12 | bengrubb | jeffrin: ok |
| 09:01.13 | simonrvn | CONFIG_ISA=y |
| 09:01.24 | simonrvn | 2.6.15.7-acahkos.2 |
| 09:01.29 | malign_ | suppaman: yes |
| 09:01.35 | malign_ | whatever works, man |
| 09:01.40 | malign_ | if it makes you feel good, then do it =) |
| 09:02.09 | ernesto | error to atftp daemon |
| 09:02.21 | suppaman | is there a 2.4 image deb ? |
| 09:02.35 | ernesto | sarge |
| 09:02.48 | suppaman | but I'm already on sid |
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| 09:03.09 | ernesto | suppaman, |
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| 09:03.16 | suppaman | ernesto: |
| 09:03.19 | ernesto | suppaman, can you heklp me? |
| 09:03.29 | RichiH | w/ 14 |
| 09:03.31 | suppaman | ernesto: what with |
| 09:03.33 | suppaman | ? |
| 09:04.07 | archimeds | <3 |
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| 09:04.37 | archimeds | wq? omg thats so clever! |
| 09:04.50 | archimeds | How do you come up with such brilliant comedy |
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| 09:05.26 | liable | RichiH: mind dealing with archimeds, he's a troll |
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| 09:06.38 | hellangel | hey guys |
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| 09:07.45 | ernesto | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.56 | ernesto | but nothing.... |
| 09:08.09 | bengrubb | ill be back |
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| 09:08.12 | ernesto | in debian sarge server |
| 09:08.13 | himsky1 | ubuntu vs vista which will win? |
| 09:08.30 | archimeds | debian |
| 09:08.32 | archimeds | mos def. |
| 09:08.35 | archimeds | like the rapper |
| 09:08.36 | RichiH | liable: lemme look |
| 09:08.42 | himsky1 | i think ubuntu will win |
| 09:08.43 | tarzeau | can someone try http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/debian/kernel/kernel-image-2.4.33-pre2_LOL.64_i386.deb ? |
| 09:08.48 | phrostix | Okay apparently I did something really stupid and hopefully someone can help me as I smack my head.. SSH logins are broke after doing some chmod 770 on some /etc files.. /etc/shadow, /etc/passwd, /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny.. etc.. I'm not physically at my unit right now, but can anyone tell me which file broke it ? |
| 09:08.51 | RichiH | archimeds: is there any chance you wouls stop? |
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| 09:08.55 | tarzeau | himsky1: really ubuntu is off-topic here |
| 09:08.58 | archimeds | tarzeau trying now |
| 09:09.00 | archimeds | kthx. |
| 09:09.21 | ernesto | tftp help? |
| 09:09.34 | tarzeau | ernesto: verb is missing |
| 09:09.45 | eggzeck | phrostix, most likely it was /etc/hosts.deny and /etc/hosts.allow |
| 09:10.02 | phrostix | eggzeck, probably should of set to 644 eh ? |
| 09:10.15 | himsky1 | how do i channel in xchat? |
| 09:10.54 | simonrvn | channel what? dead *nix guru? |
| 09:12.13 | eggzeck | phrostix, basically you only was root to be able to read and write to it, but only read for group and others |
| 09:12.21 | eggzeck | s/was/want/ |
| 09:12.28 | himsky1 | how do i change channel in xchat? |
| 09:13.04 | jetscreamer | /join #something |
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| 09:13.26 | phrostix | eggzeck, so there is no way to not allow ppl to see what the hosts.allow/deny contains ?.. thats why i tried to set the 770 |
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| 09:14.32 | Meaw | how to reconfigure ssh server? |
| 09:14.41 | Wettoad | phrostix: no, it has to be readable, you're only option is to setup bind or similar with all the blocks in it |
| 09:14.43 | Meaw | dpkg - reconfigure ssh? |
| 09:14.47 | suppaman | ernesto: can't help sorry |
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| 09:14.57 | Wettoad | phrostix: also hosts.allow/hosts.deny is only used by inetd |
| 09:14.58 | phrostix | Thanks |
| 09:15.28 | simonrvn | Meaw: editor /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 09:15.34 | malign_ | hi |
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| 09:15.36 | malign_ | wanna be friends? |
| 09:15.46 | Meaw | thnx |
| 09:15.59 | Meaw | lol |
| 09:16.08 | phrostix | I should be able to login physically on the box itself though correct? |
| 09:16.10 | Overand | heh |
| 09:16.16 | Overand | phrostix: maybe |
| 09:16.16 | phrostix | To resolve this issue. |
| 09:16.24 | Overand | phrostix: you might need to boot into 'single-user mode' |
| 09:16.26 | jmd | Why does the default gnome session in etch turn off keyboard repeating ? |
| 09:16.48 | phrostix | Alrighty. |
| 09:17.11 | blondie | jmd: what do you mean? |
| 09:17.25 | eggzeck | phrostix, yes |
| 09:17.51 | jmd | I mean that when I log using gdm, keyboard repeating is disabled. I have to manually enable it. |
| 09:18.06 | blondie | Works For Me (tm) |
| 09:18.37 | jmd | Are you on etch ? |
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| 09:18.43 | blondie | yes |
| 09:18.56 | jmd | Strange. |
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| 09:21.31 | ernesto | error with tftp server? |
| 09:21.36 | ernesto | defdf |
| 09:21.36 | ernesto | df |
| 09:21.37 | ernesto | f |
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| 09:22.49 | pinky | Meh, projectM should really be in the libvisual-plugins package |
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| 09:24.46 | aidan | The following packages have been kept back:, why does my package manager decide to keep packages back? Should I blindly override this? |
| 09:25.10 | liable | aidan: no. its because of dependancies |
| 09:25.21 | aidan | ah |
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| 09:25.27 | liable | aidan: are you dist-upgrading? |
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| 09:25.38 | mifritscher | hi |
| 09:25.44 | aidan | no, just 'apt-get upgrade' |
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| 09:26.09 | liable | try a dist-upgrade, see what apt wants to do then. |
| 09:26.26 | aidan | what's the difference? |
| 09:26.50 | liable | aidan: well worth your read, is the apt-howto. :) |
| 09:26.55 | aidan | awesome thanks :) |
| 09:27.13 | pinky | pphhfftt |
| 09:27.14 | mifritscher | quick question: why I can't install apache2-prefork and apache2-worker at the same time? I do not want to install the one and remove the other every time I need to switch (I'm switching from prefork to worker atm, which needs a few changes in the configs) |
| 09:27.18 | pinky | only nerds read howtos |
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| 09:27.41 | liable | aidan: debian reference is also a good one if you havent seen it. |
| 09:27.47 | liable | !smite pinky |
| 09:27.57 | pinky | Aargghh! |
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| 09:28.07 | zamaliphe | how to backup the apt-get Kaye |
| 09:28.08 | brick_redux | liable, sorry for the delay... it has my /boot on it; trying to provide a backup for when i screw up grub on my raid array. i have some of the relevant options compiled into the kernel, so the uhci module may be all i need. |
| 09:28.09 | suppaman | that should hurt |
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| 09:28.34 | liable | brick_redux: oooh |
| 09:28.48 | liable | brick_redux: that explains a bit. |
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| 09:29.19 | brick_redux | liable, yeah. any idea how to tell which /etc/rc2.d step is doing the mount check and which is recognizing the key? |
| 09:30.02 | brick_redux | i don't see any modules or mount script... |
| 09:30.04 | liable | brick_redux: mount.sh does the mounting. s20? |
| 09:30.21 | brick_redux | liable, very interesting, not in my rc2.d |
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| 09:30.44 | brick_redux | it's in rcS.d... iforget what that means |
| 09:30.47 | liable | brick_redux: i told you before, look in rcS.d |
| 09:30.57 | brick_redux | sorry, i was sure i was ending up at runlevel 2 |
| 09:31.39 | liable | brick_redux: np, mountall.sh was what i was thinking of |
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| 09:31.48 | brick_redux | i do have S20modutils and S35mountall |
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| 09:32.12 | brick_redux | i guess my machine gets between the two too quickly for the key to have appeared |
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| 09:33.19 | brick_redux | hmmm.. i wonder what a clean way to handle this would be |
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| 09:34.11 | liable | brick_redux: when you are doing this, what kernel option are you giving grub? |
| 09:34.11 | zamaliphe | i have use gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - ::now i need to backup all the apt Kay's |
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| 09:34.52 | blondie | who is this Kay? |
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| 09:35.04 | simonrvn | i think s/he means 'key' ... |
| 09:35.05 | brick_redux | liable, a whole lot of them (my root fs is on raid5, etc) - but i haven't gotten the key booting yet. i was experiencing this problem just booting off the hard drives with the key inserted and defined inthe fstab. |
| 09:35.11 | blondie | right |
| 09:35.14 | liable | the holder of security! :) |
| 09:36.47 | liable | brick_redux: ok, i dont know if you could get it to work though anyway, i mean, how do you boot a kernel on a usb stick, when theres no kernel there to detect it? |
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| 09:37.34 | liable | brick_redux: or are you booting the stick from bios? |
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| 09:40.13 | aidan | how do I install extensions for PHP? I want to install the GD bindings (image* functions) |
| 09:40.18 | zamaliphe | simonrvn: yes sorry i mean key |
| 09:40.41 | simonrvn | ok |
| 09:40.46 | zamaliphe | how to backup all apt-get keys |
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| 09:41.31 | brick_redux | liable, i'll be able to put grub on it and boot the stick from bios. |
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| 09:42.07 | bengrubb | to the guyt i was talking to before about bandwidth monitoring (lol) name started with r: I'm looking at Cacti |
| 09:42.13 | brick_redux | liable, so the problem only applies when booting from hard drives - even noauto in the fstab didn't keep the boot script from trying to mount it. |
| 09:42.20 | dli | liable, bios could support booting from usb |
| 09:42.21 | totu | hello, i was wondering if its possible to use the scroll wheel in the linux console (no x). ive been using gpm but is there a way to make this work? |
| 09:42.35 | bubblenut | Hi, I've just installed KDE on a machine that was running without a desktop, when I try to run kdeinit start it complains that $DISPLAY is not set, how can I overcome this? |
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| 09:42.57 | dli | totu, I think it's possible |
| 09:43.20 | simonrvn | zamaliphe: it's just one file, back up the file (hint: in /etc/apt) |
| 09:43.22 | totu | dli, using gpm? or is there another app i should use? |
| 09:43.31 | dli | bubblenut, configure X, and use kdm to load kde |
| 09:43.52 | dli | totu, I don't really know :( find some gpm howto |
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| 09:44.27 | totu | dli: ic, thanks anyway! =) |
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| 09:46.04 | bubblenut | dli: I tried using XF86config to create an X config file and I've tried both kdm and kdeinit start but nothing (and just tried rebooting and trying both again). |
| 09:46.08 | liable | brick_redux: ok, have you got usb_storage and sd_mod built in? if not, wack them in /etc/modules and try |
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| 09:46.41 | liable | brick_redux: i would like to know if it works from the stick when you try :) |
| 09:46.42 | bubblenut | dli: If I do a ps, I can't see X there |
| 09:46.45 | dli | bubblenut, dpkg-reconfigure |
| 09:47.18 | brick_redux | liable, :) |
| 09:47.22 | brick_redux | i'm looking for those modules.. |
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| 09:48.09 | dli | bubblenut, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , never heard about it? time to read debian X howto |
| 09:48.10 | hjubal | hi |
| 09:48.29 | brick_redux | liable, good question - USB_STORAGE=y; i can't find anything like "sd_mod" in the .config - know is its full name? |
| 09:48.29 | aidan | why on earth does php5-gd have dependencies on php5-pdo-mysql? |
| 09:48.57 | liable | brick_redux: nope |
| 09:49.08 | dli | brick_redux, you need "SCSI disk" (sd-mod), "SCSI generic" (sg) also, built-in |
| 09:49.15 | brick_redux | thanks dli |
| 09:49.24 | shevek | Is there a debian tool to parse a Packages file, similar to dpkg-parsechangelog? |
| 09:49.39 | simonrvn | aidan: if you know to ask that, you know to bug the DD involved, and not here |
| 09:49.41 | dli | brick_redux, of course, you need ehci-hcd, [uo]hci-hcd |
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| 09:50.25 | brick_redux | dli, my USB chipset is UHCI. do you mean to say that i need ehci-hcd as well? |
| 09:50.38 | dli | brick_redux, ehci is for usb-2.0 |
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| 09:50.45 | brick_redux | aha! thank you. |
| 09:50.47 | shevek | brick_redux: No, you don't, only if you have usb2 |
| 09:50.52 | brick_redux | i will add it to the modules file |
| 09:51.05 | Eulex | shevek, I don't understand your question. dpkg-parsechangelog is in debian. |
| 09:51.05 | dli | brick_redux, it's better to built-in all of them, uhci, ohci, echi |
| 09:51.20 | shevek | Eulex: It parses changelogs, not Packages files |
| 09:51.27 | dli | brick_redux, not modules, built-in is better |
| 09:51.47 | zamaliphe | what is the key id |
| 09:51.53 | zamaliphe | pub 1024D/4F368D5D 2005-01-31 [expired: 2006-01-31] |
| 09:52.01 | Eulex | shevek, ah, nm, looks like I failed to parse your question :) |
| 09:52.13 | brick_redux | dli, i seem to recall having some serious trouble back in the day when i compiled them in, but could only get them working when i could insert and remove them at will - like when they, or the USB bus, locked up in a weird way... |
| 09:52.30 | zamaliphe | how to remove this key |
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| 09:52.44 | dli | brick_redux, if you want to boot from usb, you have to built-in them, otherwise, you get kernel panic |
| 09:52.45 | shevek | Eulex: I need to find the filename of a package (on the mirror) given the package name. This is about a Packages file which is not for the host architecture, so I can't just use apt-cache |
| 09:53.07 | cht | !tell zamaliphe about 2006 key |
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| 09:53.21 | brick_redux | dli, aha, the root directory will still be on the raid array in most cases. if i want an alternate root on the key, then i agree. |
| 09:53.28 | aidan | simonrvn: you're right, sorry :) |
| 09:53.36 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 09:54.01 | Eulex | shevek, sorry, I dunno |
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| 09:54.43 | sparkx | hi everybody. |
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| 09:56.48 | sparkx | Someone can give me a clue about the fact that during startup a sid installation keeps asking me the "root password for mantainance"...? |
| 09:57.10 | liable | ewww |
| 09:57.29 | jetscreamer | sparkx: how many ide/sata controllers do you have |
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| 09:57.31 | phrostix | I'd just like to say this is one great channel. Just like debian is an awesome OS. I plan on loggin this channel, printing the logs, and reading them at work just to learn more :) |
| 09:58.07 | sparkx | 2 sata disks. I believe at least sata controller... and 2 ide channels empty. |
| 09:58.08 | Tallu | so what you're saying is, you don't really have any work to do at work? |
| 09:58.16 | sparkx | at least one* |
| 09:58.20 | pinky | Okay so if I'm using ALSA for my built-in RealTek audio on my nForce 4 motherboard, and I want to pop in a Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum (also supported by ALSA), what do I need to do other than disable the onboard sound in the BIOS? |
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| 09:58.50 | phrostix | Tallu: just depends on what happens :) I'm insurance.. in case something breaks lol |
| 09:58.59 | jetscreamer | so if you have ide & sata i believe it to be the way in which the initrd is written |
| 09:59.05 | liable | pinky: run alsaconf |
| 09:59.09 | phrostix | Tallu: Nothing breaks means I don't work lol |
| 09:59.20 | liable | pinky: good deal |
| 09:59.25 | sparkx | jetscreamer, so it is normal with sata drives? |
| 09:59.27 | jetscreamer | i get the same thing when i run a stock debian kernel. just tried again 2 days ago, still does it |
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| 09:59.48 | jetscreamer | sparkx: i'm not saying it's your problem, just that with >1 controller it may be |
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| 10:00.03 | sparkx | jetscreamer, ok... thanks for the hint. |
| 10:00.04 | phrostix | Time to go home. Yall take care. |
| 10:00.12 | jetscreamer | hde becomes hda and vice-versa |
| 10:00.39 | jetscreamer | stupid stock kernel |
| 10:00.52 | pinky | liable: okay so should I reboot after disabling the on-board in the BIOS before installing the PCI card? |
| 10:01.08 | pinky | liable: Or just disable, install PCI card, reboot and run alsaconf all in one go? |
| 10:01.22 | liable | pinky: option 2 |
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| 10:02.39 | liable | pinky: i am pretty sure alsaconf does it, but you may need to blacklist the modules for the onboard card |
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| 10:03.33 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 10:03.49 | pinky | liable: ohh, is that complicated? I don't mind reading up on that, but where *would* I read up on that? |
| 10:03.59 | DevilChaos | anything intesting going on the day? |
| 10:04.08 | pinky | liable: And what's the EAX situation? |
| 10:04.31 | jetscreamer | depends on the card, iirc |
| 10:04.31 | liable | pinky: udev looks after that these days if you are on etch or sid, /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 10:05.04 | liable | i dont even know what EAX is :P |
| 10:05.28 | jetscreamer | some sound good thing |
| 10:05.41 | liable | heh |
| 10:06.30 | Gathond | liable: its the system creative made for SBlive originally, about 3d sounds in games, using 4+ speakers (probably also headphones and so forth) |
| 10:06.35 | pinky | liabe: EAX is a bunch of DSP presets for Sound Blasters (and even Creative brand MP3 players) that provides environmental ambient 3D effects in applications, notably games |
| 10:06.36 | DevilChaos | debian kicks ass |
| 10:06.52 | liable | Gathond: oh, thanks |
| 10:06.52 | DevilChaos | there is no other |
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| 10:07.10 | tarzeau | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 10:07.17 | tarzeau | how was the command again? |
| 10:07.27 | simonrvn | !e2fsprogs |
| 10:07.28 | dpkg | [e2fsprogs] if you are getting a messages about Force LoopBreak a likely cause is that you are trying to upgrade pre-stable packages to testing which isnt' supported. you should fully upgrade to the current stable before upgrading to testing,ask me about <force loopbreak> |
| 10:07.29 | bubblenut | how can I find out which device my mouse is on? |
| 10:07.30 | liable | !e2fsloop |
| 10:07.30 | pinky | I'm just wondering if EAX works under GNU/Linux... like, in UT2004 would I choose "Hardware Surround" or "Hardware Surround + EAX"? |
| 10:07.33 | jetscreamer | i had eax support in my turtle beach vortex1 type card |
| 10:07.35 | liable | meh |
| 10:07.39 | Gathond | it actually workied nicely when I used it some 5 years ago, added a whole new dimention to a game when you could hear the NPC's creeping up on you or shooting behind you:) |
| 10:07.42 | tarzeau | !force loopbreak |
| 10:07.43 | dpkg | 'apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade'. Fix suggested by xk. Then you can remove or purge outdated packages after the upgrade. if you are getting this message about e2fsproogs, ask me about <e2fsprogs loop> |
| 10:07.48 | pinky | jetscreamer: No wayy?? |
| 10:07.55 | jetscreamer | bubblenut: just use auto maybe. if it's a ps2 mouse, /dev/psaux works |
| 10:07.59 | jetscreamer | way |
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| 10:08.23 | pinky | Yeah it's really not *that* good of an effects engine, but most games support it over anything else... it does add quite a nice effect to the experience though |
| 10:08.28 | jetscreamer | very buggy eax support, and that was in windows |
| 10:08.32 | Gathond | jetscreamer: didn't the vortex card use something they called something else? |
| 10:08.38 | pinky | jetscreamer: ahh, figures |
| 10:08.54 | jetscreamer | Gathond: can't swear, it was 3 cards ago |
| 10:09.07 | jetscreamer | iirc there were two things |
| 10:09.35 | Gathond | jetscreamer: 5 years for me I think, although I still have that SB-live card sitting in the machine I play games on |
| 10:10.45 | jetscreamer | yeah it might have been a3d |
| 10:12.35 | jetscreamer | The Montego II supports A3D, A3D 2 and DirectSound 3D for positional audio. Aureal have been promising Vortex 2 drivers which support EAX for rather a while now, and should have working drivers out soon. A leaked v2.048 driver set with EAX is already out, but buggy. |
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| 10:14.34 | bubblenut | jetscreamer: excellent thanks :) |
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| 10:15.03 | jetscreamer | ? |
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| 10:15.39 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 10:15.49 | mifritscher | hi |
| 10:16.07 | mifritscher | is there a tool which can zero deleted parts of the HDD? |
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| 10:16.10 | jetscreamer | !greet mifritscher |
| 10:16.10 | dpkg | Tag, mifritscher |
| 10:16.18 | dli | mifritscher, no hi in this channel, we are freaks, not civilized yet |
| 10:16.19 | jetscreamer | shred maybe |
| 10:16.30 | jetscreamer | !shred |
| 10:16.31 | dpkg | shred, rap, powd, dude |
| 10:16.40 | jetscreamer | !info shred |
| 10:17.13 | jetscreamer | if the bot ever connects he'll probably agree |
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| 10:17.28 | mifritscher | hmm, no |
| 10:17.52 | Nazdreg | Anyone feels like having 4 hours of support with me? =D |
| 10:18.10 | mifritscher | (or a simple programm I can input /dev/hda3 aand copies it to stdour, zeroing all unused sectors |
| 10:18.15 | dli | Nazdreg, what's the issue? |
| 10:18.19 | quitte | Nazdreg: thanks. I could use that. my xfs data is lost. can you help me recover? |
| 10:18.27 | Space_Ace | Sorry to come out every time with the same question, but I am about to buy an assembled PC, so can you give advice about the mainboard (socket 939 for an AMD64)? |
| 10:18.38 | mifritscher | (or a simple backupprogramm ;) ) |
| 10:18.56 | mifritscher | partimage doesn't want to work with this partition for any reason |
| 10:19.05 | Nazdreg | dli: Well i am trying to setup a forum on my webserver hosted on debian system, though i know very little about linux in general. =p |
| 10:19.19 | liable | Space_Ace: google is your best bet for that. or try #debian-amd64 |
| 10:19.36 | quitte | Nazdreg: apt-get install phpbb2 and read stuff in /usr/share/doc/phpbb2 |
| 10:19.50 | dli | Nazdreg, oh, I don't know forum :( |
| 10:19.52 | Tallu | Nazdreg: downloading and installin phpbb2.. has lots of documentation and is easy to implement |
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| 10:21.13 | Space_Ace | One of the most common brands of mainboard here (Italy) seems to be ASROCK - I looked on google, but all I found was that, say ASUS had a bad record of cooperation with the community, so there was even a boycott proposal |
| 10:21.20 | dli | mifritscher, maybe you want encrypted hdd also |
| 10:21.42 | Nazdreg | quitte, Tallu: Well, the problem is between the database and the install program in phpbb really, i have allready uploaded the software to the webserver, i am having trouble with the install and the database...or something |
| 10:22.05 | dli | Space_Ace, I think asus has good linux support :( you can buy asus white laptop |
| 10:22.28 | Nazdreg | not sure if i have the right mysql and such, and the mysql-server-4.1 has broken packages it says |
| 10:22.32 | salah | hi. I have some problems with the screen resolution, it can't show more than 1024x768, it should take 1600x1200. I have edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and restarted X. what more do I have to do to fix this problem? |
| 10:22.47 | quitte | Nazdreg: uhm the machine you are uploading to is debian? |
| 10:22.53 | Nazdreg | quitte yes |
| 10:23.13 | Space_Ace | I would not like to give my money to some firm who does not cooperate with our lot ... |
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| 10:23.20 | dli | salah, xf86config? what happened to xorg? |
| 10:23.26 | Blissex | salah: tell the X configurator the right parameters for your monitor. Look at '/var/log/xfree86.0.log' |
| 10:23.28 | quitte | Nazdreg: well, then i can only recommend looking at the docs again. im pretty sure it's all in there |
| 10:23.30 | jetscreamer | sarge has xorg? |
| 10:23.36 | quitte | no |
| 10:23.48 | jetscreamer | didn't think so |
| 10:23.58 | dli | jetscreamer, oh, sorry for my ignorance |
| 10:24.00 | salah | dli, what's the difference between xorg and XF86Config-4? |
| 10:24.01 | liable | Nazdreg: firstly, you need to sort out the mysql problems. |
| 10:24.18 | dli | salah, okay, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
| 10:24.32 | brick_redux | liable, dli, thanks! |
| 10:24.32 | salah | Blissex: Yes I think the parameters for my screen is the problem. but I do not know what the parameters for my screen is |
| 10:24.46 | jetscreamer | salah: not very much in terms of format. you can basically use one for the other with a couple minor changes |
| 10:24.46 | dli | salah, don't edit the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file, unless it's for testing only |
| 10:24.48 | Nazdreg | quitte: what about the broken mysql-server packages then? |
| 10:25.00 | liable | Blissex: works? cool |
| 10:25.09 | quitte | Nazdreg: what do you mean by broken? |
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| 10:25.32 | quitte | Nazdreg: are you using sarge? |
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| 10:26.13 | salah | dli, yes now im reconfiguring the xserver-xfree86, but I don't know anything about video cards identifier and such things. |
| 10:26.13 | LaoWang | adsf |
| 10:26.20 | Nazdreg | quitte: when i do: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 it downloads it, but dont install it, it tells me that it has broken packages |
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| 10:27.02 | liable | Nazdreg: paste the output from that command to a paster |
| 10:27.17 | Blissex | salah: there are only a few ''classes'' of monitor, distinguished mostly by the maximum vertical refresh they can do in 1280x1024 |
| 10:27.18 | dli | salah, do you know your video card? "lspci |grep -i vga" |
| 10:27.39 | Nazdreg | liable: what do you mean with paster? |
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| 10:28.02 | Blissex | salah: try to use 'xf86config', it will ask you about one of those classes. Also search the web with your monitor's model name, usually this will find the parameters. |
| 10:28.07 | liable | !paste |
| 10:28.07 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 10:28.09 | quitte | Nazdreg: and if you use mysql-server instead? |
| 10:28.32 | salah | thanks, I will try that |
| 10:28.58 | dli | salah, again, after you know what it is, run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
| 10:29.08 | salah | yep :) |
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| 10:29.16 | Nazdreg | Now i am confused =/ |
| 10:29.32 | dli | salah, you can also try, "X -configure", but again, "dpkg-reconfigure" is the debian way |
| 10:29.33 | quitte | is there some way i can forbid using scp for the sshd. so users can only use it for a shell? |
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| 10:29.49 | Blissex | quitte: and the point is? |
| 10:30.09 | dli | quitte, that's quite pointless, because user can copy as far as they can run a shell |
| 10:30.17 | quitte | Blissex: sshfs is eating ressources and the users can use nfs instead. |
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| 10:30.38 | Blissex | quitte: ahhhhhhh so it is just expediency. |
| 10:30.52 | Blissex | quitte: yes, you can do that. 'man sshd_config' and look at subsystem configuration. |
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| 10:31.33 | quitte | Blissex: ok thanks |
| 10:31.38 | Nazdreg | liable: here it is http://channels.debian.net/paste/2533. |
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| 10:32.34 | liable | Nazdreg: when you paste, you need to hit the submit button, then give the url :) |
| 10:32.47 | Nazdreg | i can see it =p |
| 10:32.56 | liable | hit submit |
| 10:32.56 | Nazdreg | on the url |
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| 10:33.19 | liable | Nazdreg: nm, the dot got me.. :P |
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| 10:33.37 | Nazdreg | oh the dot ;) |
| 10:33.53 | quitte | Blissex: not only that. samba is there,too. |
| 10:34.14 | quitte | slept: look at what Blissex said :P |
| 10:34.50 | liable | Nazdreg: apt-get install mysql-server |
| 10:35.08 | LaoWang | aptitude install mysql-server |
| 10:35.52 | liable | Nazdreg: actually, sec, do you have security in sources.list? |
| 10:36.05 | Nazdreg | huh? =p |
| 10:36.47 | liable | Nazdreg: /etc/apt/sources.list paste the file |
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| 10:37.54 | LaoWang | hello |
| 10:38.07 | jetscreamer | god everybody wants to say hi |
| 10:38.09 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 10:38.22 | LaoWang | faint |
| 10:38.31 | liable | !irritate jetscreamer |
| 10:38.31 | dpkg | jetscreamer: wenas who uses gnome plz msg me, CrazyEddy |
| 10:39.01 | ussd | hello, i decided to install debian. i've choseen netinst so i downloaded 3.1r2 netinst. i've got a problem with installing base system, here's my log: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4Ovx3359.html |
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| 10:39.20 | Nazdreg | liable: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2534 |
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| 10:39.46 | LaoWang | what question? |
| 10:40.11 | liable | ussd: on a 64 system? |
| 10:40.23 | ussd | liable, 32 |
| 10:40.52 | liable | Nazdreg: have you done an apt-get update? |
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| 10:41.13 | Nazdreg | liable: yes about 30 minutes ago |
| 10:41.31 | Meaw | how to install cc on debian |
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| 10:42.32 | liable | Nazdreg: hrm, try commenting out the first two lines in that file, update and try again. |
| 10:42.37 | tralala | Meaw: apt-get install gcc |
| 10:42.54 | liable | Meaw: might as well get build-essential |
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| 10:43.44 | Nazdreg | liable: ; should work right? |
| 10:43.56 | bengrubb | im looking for the command to see information about my harddrive |
| 10:44.23 | Nazdreg | used # instead |
| 10:44.25 | bbrazil | bengrubb: what kind of information? |
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| 10:44.42 | liable | Nazdreg: doh, how old is this box? i only just realised, those two lines are unstable.. have you done an upgrade? how did they get there? |
| 10:44.44 | bengrubb | i.e space and how much left etc or a manual ? |
| 10:44.47 | jetscreamer | cat /proc/ide/something |
| 10:44.49 | bbrazil | bengrubb: df -h |
| 10:44.52 | jetscreamer | hda, hdb.... |
| 10:45.02 | totu | bengrubb: try hdparm |
| 10:45.19 | jetscreamer | oh, yeah df -h |
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| 10:45.33 | Nazdreg | liable: they got there when i first installed debian on it, my friend helped me, though it was like a year ago |
| 10:45.43 | Meaw | liable i already install gcc |
| 10:45.43 | liable | Nazdreg: why are you wanting to run a internet facing forum on an unstable server? |
| 10:45.45 | bengrubb | df -h works not hda but thanks |
| 10:45.48 | Meaw | but im gettin cc errors |
| 10:45.59 | bbrazil | bengrubb: compare with "mount" and figure which is hda |
| 10:46.09 | Nazdreg | liable: not folling, why ist it unstable? |
| 10:46.19 | dli | Meaw: pastebin the error messages (not pasting to the channel) |
| 10:46.36 | liable | Nazdreg: cause thats what it says in your sources list. |
| 10:46.50 | liable | Nazdreg: whats the output from dpkg -l libc6? |
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| 10:47.00 | liable | Nazdreg: just the version number |
| 10:47.15 | Space_Ace | What is the latest kernel for sarge? |
| 10:47.18 | bbrazil | bengrubb: awk '/hda/{print $2}' /proc/mounts | xargs -r df -h |
| 10:47.23 | Meaw | dli, check here http://pastebin.com/715040 |
| 10:47.51 | liable | Space_Ace: 2.6.8-3 |
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| 10:48.26 | Nazdreg | liable: Please remember that i have very little experience in this enviroment, how do i find out that last thing you asked? |
| 10:48.38 | dli | Meaw, please, "apt-get install ppp", not making it in /usr/local |
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| 10:49.18 | Meaw | why dli , im just following http://wrath.geoweb.ge/pppoe-server.html |
| 10:49.26 | liable | Nazdreg: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 10:49.33 | Meaw | they have the configurations step by step |
| 10:49.37 | liable | Nazdreg: in a terminal |
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| 10:50.10 | edrin | in java if i write class xyz extends blah implements blub: what does the extends and implement mean? |
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| 10:50.57 | asg | edrin: try #java |
| 10:50.57 | dli | Meaw, http://users.pandora.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm |
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| 10:51.19 | jetscreamer | Nazdreg: /lastlog <searchterm> in the irc client |
| 10:51.35 | Meaw | Im trying to configure pppoe server not client |
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| 10:52.13 | Nazdreg | liable: 2.3.6-4 |
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| 10:52.52 | liable | Nazdreg: eww, sad, but really, you are best off re-installing. |
| 10:53.30 | HNT | Hello everybody, i have some problem with sound, i only have sounds with Kaffeine, when i play with planet penguin racer or mania drive, i don't have any sound, do you have any idea about the problem ? |
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| 10:54.48 | Nazdreg | liable: sounds wierd that i have to reinstall everything, just so i can get my forum to work...sounds a little drastic |
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| 10:55.04 | liable | Nazdreg: indeed |
| 10:55.09 | quitte | well. i guess i made my decision. i'll reinstall. now i'm looking for a d-i where root on lvm on sw-raid5 actually works. has someone done that successfully? |
| 10:55.36 | liable | Nazdreg: but if you want a reliable, secure server, thats what you should do. |
| 10:56.10 | Nazdreg | liable: i just want my forum =p |
| 10:56.39 | dli | Nazdreg, for a server, security is critical :( |
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| 10:57.18 | Nazdreg | dli: well does not my firewall take care of that? |
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| 10:57.27 | liable | Nazdreg: then you get to delve into the broken world of running unstable, and try and fix your dependancy problems, and then the next time you upgrade, the next thing thats breaks, and so on.. :P |
| 10:57.48 | liable | !sid faq |
| 10:57.49 | dpkg | somebody said sid faq was http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 10:57.57 | liable | Nazdreg: read that link ^^ |
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| 10:58.12 | liable | Nazdreg: will give you a bit of an idea about unstable. |
| 10:58.23 | GaiaX11 | Is there a command for me to know how much memmory i have? |
| 10:58.40 | dli | Nazdreg, I think it's insane to run a dedicated server on unstable |
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| 10:58.52 | dli | GaiaX11, "free -m", or "top" |
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| 10:59.08 | Nazdreg | i think its insane, to have to reinstall everything =/ |
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| 10:59.22 | cafuego_ | !st |
| 10:59.22 | dpkg | ST is Steven Tweedie |
| 10:59.30 | cafuego_ | blah |
| 10:59.44 | Nazdreg | so you guys are saying that my friend who put up my server, did it with sid? |
| 10:59.50 | GaiaX11 | I mean ram memmory |
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| 11:00.08 | liable | Nazdreg: read the link i gave you, then see what you think |
| 11:01.45 | GaiaX11 | Thanks, dli |
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| 11:02.33 | liable | Nazdreg: he/she made a mistake, yes and put unstable in your sources list |
| 11:03.37 | Nazdreg | liable: is there a reason why he did that you think? it seems from the link i read (a bit from) that its...no good at all |
| 11:04.07 | Nazdreg | liable: perhapps its more easy to work with in one way? |
| 11:04.08 | liable | Nazdreg: you would have to ask him. misinformed i guess. |
| 11:04.24 | liable | Nazdreg: no |
| 11:04.34 | aarchie | I'm getting 'FATAL: Module spca5xx not found.' when I try to modprobe a module for which I've installed the provding debian package. Do I need to refresh the kernel's list of modules in some way? |
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| 11:04.50 | Nazdreg | liable: perhapps its harder to work with on several ways? =p haha |
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| 11:05.05 | Space_Ace | Sorry to nag: I browsed and browsed, chatted also on #debian-amd64, but no conclusive information on which motherboard to get with an AMD64 (I think that I would still run srage 32bit for now) ... |
| 11:05.18 | dli | how do I make a shell script prints out each command before running it? |
| 11:05.30 | Space_Ace | I bumped across this article http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html have you read it? |
| 11:05.53 | liable | Nazdreg: really, bite the bullet, back up your things you need to keep and re-install. |
| 11:06.22 | Space_Ace | Unfortunately , for me, purchasing hardware for Linux is near to a nightmare |
| 11:06.34 | liable | dli: and wait or just print as its running? set -x (or bash -x script) |
| 11:06.45 | Nazdreg | liable: will do, thanks for the help for now =() |
| 11:06.52 | liable | Nazdreg: yw |
| 11:06.57 | dli | liable, just printing out, no waiting |
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| 11:07.04 | liable | dli: set -x |
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| 11:07.47 | dli | liable, okay, I make it #!/bin/bash -x, it works now |
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| 11:09.12 | aarchie | I've posted information on http://pastebin.com/715072 - can anyone help? |
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| 11:11.23 | jetscreamer | why don't you give a brief synopsis with the link |
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| 11:11.43 | tralala | aarchie: you don't seem to be running debian. |
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| 11:12.40 | aarchie | tralala: I am running Debian etch, updated today. What makes you think it isn't Debian? |
| 11:13.02 | jetscreamer | yeah i was about to ask that too |
| 11:13.13 | Nazdreg | liable: talked to some friends on "our" channel, and they said that the reason is that you get everything before its realeased (much anyway) and that they can fix it and learn more if the do it themselvs, so i guess i wasnt fooled by them in the first place =) |
| 11:13.25 | jetscreamer | aarchie: apt-get install modconf then run it |
| 11:13.49 | tralala | aarchie: my mistake, sorry. Did you try depmod -a? |
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| 11:14.31 | liable | Nazdreg: huh? i didnt quite understand that. |
| 11:14.38 | aarchie | jetscreamer: sorry, missed yr first comment. synopsis was above: "I'm getting 'FATAL: Module spca5xx not found.' when I try to modprobe a module for which I've installed the provding debian package. Do I need to refresh the kernel's list of modules in some way?" |
| 11:14.40 | fairway | how to install minimal x-server system? |
| 11:14.48 | asg | fairway: x-window-system-core |
| 11:14.51 | dli | aarchie, or, "uname -a" |
| 11:15.08 | Nazdreg | liable: i quote what he said, just got to translate it first, one sec. |
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| 11:15.14 | jetscreamer | aarchie: there is 'update-modules' but i don't know if that will help |
| 11:15.16 | liable | Nazdreg: nevermind |
| 11:15.16 | fairway | thanks |
| 11:15.19 | aarchie | jetscreamer: same result after install of modconf (it wasn't installed) |
| 11:15.26 | Nazdreg | liable: ok? |
| 11:15.38 | bernd | hi where can i change GTK-fonts for apps global (configfile)? |
| 11:15.44 | tralala | aarchie: did you try depmod -a (again)? |
| 11:15.58 | aarchie | tralala: depmod did the trick. thanks! |
| 11:16.36 | jetscreamer | !ralala++ |
| 11:16.38 | jetscreamer | err |
| 11:16.44 | jetscreamer | !tralala++ |
| 11:16.47 | liable | Nazdreg: thats fine for a desktop/personal machine, (if you know what you are doing) you want stable on a server. |
| 11:16.48 | jetscreamer | stupid ins key |
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| 11:17.32 | aarchie | jetscreamer & tralala: thanks for your help! |
| 11:17.32 | jetscreamer | hey omg! |
| 11:17.32 | jetscreamer | helllp! i have an ins key, but no outs key! |
| 11:17.41 | tralala | :) |
| 11:17.56 | tralala | !comfort jetscreamer |
| 11:17.56 | dpkg | There, there, jetscreamer. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 11:18.06 | jetscreamer | ohthankgod |
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| 11:23.55 | redblades | Hi, I just ran make for xbnbt-81b.3 |
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| 11:24.22 | redblades | bnbt_mysql.h:12:20: mysql.h: No such file or directory |
| 11:24.32 | redblades | bnbt_mysql.h:42: error: syntax error before `*' token |
| 11:24.32 | redblades | bnbt_mysql.h:71: error: syntax error before `*' token |
| 11:24.44 | redblades | Sorry about the pasting. |
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| 11:25.16 | dimir | redblades: install libmysqlclient{version}-dev |
| 11:25.27 | dimir | version=10|12|14 |
| 11:25.29 | co^^ol | hi |
| 11:25.34 | redblades | okay |
| 11:25.47 | co^^ol | what is your name |
| 11:25.56 | tralala | !nickometer co^^ol |
| 11:25.58 | dpkg | 'co^^ol' is 38.000% lame, tralala |
| 11:26.00 | dimir | :-D |
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| 11:26.06 | dimir | was about to do the same |
| 11:26.10 | tralala | only?! |
| 11:26.13 | dimir | ye |
| 11:26.16 | tralala | dpkg, you're too kind |
| 11:26.26 | dimir | need to improve that code. |
| 11:26.35 | tralala | by far |
| 11:26.56 | redblades | !nickometer redblades |
| 11:26.58 | dpkg | 'redblades' is 0.000% lame, redblades |
| 11:27.04 | redblades | Awesome! |
| 11:27.07 | dimir | \o/ |
| 11:27.19 | tralala | !win redblades |
| 11:27.20 | dpkg | Congratulations, redblades! You have won a one way ticket to Rio de Janeiro! |
| 11:27.28 | dimir | hehe. |
| 11:27.32 | dimir | Not so bad. |
| 11:27.49 | redblades | Going to Rio! |
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| 11:28.30 | redblades | I need to rip some CD's |
| 11:28.35 | slept | abcde |
| 11:28.38 | jetscreamer | do it! |
| 11:28.48 | redblades | I have grip, lame. Grip doesn't seem to detact the CD |
| 11:28.58 | mortal__ | detect? |
| 11:29.04 | jetscreamer | abcde was a suggestion btw |
| 11:29.10 | redblades | oh |
| 11:29.11 | tralala | redblades: I use ripperX for ripping |
| 11:29.12 | redblades | lol |
| 11:29.17 | redblades | ripperX ? |
| 11:29.23 | redblades | okay I'll try that |
| 11:29.27 | jetscreamer | k3b functions |
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| 11:29.38 | redblades | I have ripperX |
| 11:29.43 | redblades | how do I use it? |
| 11:29.55 | redblades | Rage Against the Machine? |
| 11:30.09 | redblades | They are so cool! |
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| 11:30.55 | jetscreamer | i saw that guy in concert... |
| 11:31.06 | Space_Ace | Does anyone know about TYAN motherboards? |
| 11:31.08 | tralala | redblades: you type ripperX in an xterm |
| 11:31.11 | jetscreamer | (aka which one's pink) |
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| 11:31.23 | redblades | it's okay I got it |
| 11:31.40 | bengrubb | just a question, Whats one of the coolest thing you have done on Debian? (Any of you) |
| 11:32.08 | js_ | bengrubb: i turned the power on once, that was pretty cool |
| 11:32.11 | redblades | jetscreamer : THAT GUY? |
| 11:32.20 | redblades | WHAT GUY? |
| 11:32.28 | bengrubb | What guy? |
| 11:32.34 | jetscreamer | mr. rage |
| 11:32.37 | tralala | bengrubb: I don't know about the coolest but the dumbest thing was answering stupid questions around here. |
| 11:32.49 | jetscreamer | or is his name mr. machine |
| 11:32.50 | redblades | So far, I made a webserver, which I know, everyone has done, but I thought it was cool, |
| 11:32.51 | bengrubb | tralala: heh |
| 11:32.57 | r_marvin | i installed one by phone with a monkey-ass windoze admin on the other side of the world |
| 11:33.08 | bengrubb | lol |
| 11:33.26 | redblades | What are you talking about? |
| 11:33.28 | bengrubb | mmm windoze |
| 11:33.40 | bengrubb | yer i read the last bit and laft didnt get the first bit |
| 11:33.51 | r_marvin | no, windoze is ok, windoze admins is waht i despise |
| 11:34.00 | bengrubb | hehe |
| 11:34.03 | redblades | there is no mr. rage, no mr machine, no mr. the, no mr. against! |
| 11:34.14 | jetscreamer | yeah him |
| 11:34.22 | jetscreamer | i saw him in concert |
| 11:34.36 | redblades | HIM? or RATM? |
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| 11:34.45 | bengrubb | r_marvin: Did you say you installed you phone on your comp or summin? |
| 11:34.46 | redblades | cause HIM are also awsome |
| 11:34.47 | jetscreamer | yeah him, mr. ratm |
| 11:34.53 | jetscreamer | who is him |
| 11:35.00 | redblades | there is no mr. ratm |
| 11:35.06 | redblades | HIM not him |
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| 11:35.17 | r_marvin | bengrubb: no, i talked a stupid guy into installing a debian by phone |
| 11:35.21 | jetscreamer | !tell rox -about root |
| 11:35.23 | redblades | acronym, His Infernal Majesty. It's Love Metal |
| 11:35.34 | bengrubb | ohh ok. |
| 11:35.36 | jetscreamer | oh i saw him too. |
| 11:35.50 | jetscreamer | he opened for the other guy |
| 11:36.01 | r_marvin | this turns into "who is the president of china" :) |
| 11:36.11 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 11:36.14 | redblades | jetscreamer, Shut Up |
| 11:36.15 | dli | r_marvin, hu |
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| 11:36.34 | r_marvin | dli: him! |
| 11:36.36 | bengrubb | doesnt china have like a huge firewall "protecting it's people" "The Great Firewall" |
| 11:36.36 | jetscreamer | redblades: when is Shut Up touring? |
| 11:36.42 | tralala | redblades, jetscreamer: shall me move on with on-topic discussions? |
| 11:36.42 | redblades | Grrr |
| 11:36.46 | redblades | thankyou |
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| 11:37.02 | jetscreamer | bengrubb: yeah and there's a project in the news working on ways to circumvent that firewall |
| 11:37.03 | dli | bengrubb, google.com is not accessible in china |
| 11:37.10 | bengrubb | lol |
| 11:37.13 | bengrubb | really? |
| 11:37.14 | jetscreamer | i forget the name but it's like proxies |
| 11:37.24 | hjubal | hi |
| 11:37.24 | bengrubb | only google.jp? |
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| 11:37.43 | bengrubb | can they use proxies? |
| 11:37.44 | dli | jetscreamer, I doubt you can outwit a group of net police force of 30,000+ |
| 11:37.48 | redblades | what are those red lines across the room? |
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| 11:38.10 | tralala | bengrubb: may I suggest #china for in-depth discussion of the chinesse matters? |
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| 11:38.26 | bengrubb | lol |
| 11:38.37 | r_marvin | !cn |
| 11:38.37 | dpkg | from memory, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE čæęø”ęå¼å§ļ¼čƦęčÆ·éčÆ» |
| 11:38.42 | r_marvin | see? |
| 11:39.00 | bengrubb | i was only saying.. |
| 11:39.06 | jetscreamer | dli: it's funded by (i forget the name) some chinese-american coalition |
| 11:39.13 | jetscreamer | and others iirc |
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| 11:39.20 | dli | no, don't join #debian-zh/-cn/-tw, those channels are censored |
| 11:39.28 | bengrubb | like is china the only place where the government restrict the internet |
| 11:39.41 | r_marvin | quit it already with non-debian stuff, mkay? |
| 11:39.55 | bengrubb | ok debian. |
| 11:40.29 | pyroplasm | so. Is Debian well known in china? :) |
| 11:40.36 | redblades | In australia, the Lobour Party is planning to filter the internet at ISP. |
| 11:40.46 | redblades | the thing is that they won't be able to. |
| 11:40.50 | redblades | Labour |
| 11:40.50 | dli | pyroplasm, unlikely, they have "RedFlag" linux |
| 11:40.56 | bengrubb | i heard about that (I'm Australian) |
| 11:41.07 | bengrubb | i also doubt it |
| 11:41.13 | abrotman | bengrubb: no .. many other countries also |
| 11:41.13 | redblades | Good for you. So am I |
| 11:41.16 | dli | redblades, why all governments are trying to follow china |
| 11:41.19 | bengrubb | as we are a free country |
| 11:41.33 | redblades | I wrote a 200 word essay on it on thursday |
| 11:41.36 | dli | redblades, US is recording phone calls |
| 11:41.44 | bengrubb | scary |
| 11:41.50 | abrotman | dli: not quite |
| 11:41.51 | redblades | dli, I hate America |
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| 11:42.00 | bengrubb | you have like Homeland Security dont you? that does that |
| 11:42.03 | dli | abrotman, not what? |
| 11:42.07 | abrotman | dli: they're recording who you called .. not what you said .. or so they say |
| 11:42.18 | jetscreamer | http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1146865816987&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home |
| 11:42.22 | redblades | not Americans (though some of them) but America itself |
| 11:42.33 | abrotman | so you hate brasil too ? |
| 11:42.39 | redblades | SHUT UP! |
| 11:42.43 | jetscreamer | yeah the nsa's phone call database finally made the news eh |
| 11:42.47 | dli | abrotman, you trust Bush or the patriot act? |
| 11:42.50 | redblades | YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN! |
| 11:42.58 | bengrubb | wonder if the American Army use Debian |
| 11:43.01 | jetscreamer | !caps |
| 11:43.02 | dpkg | Don't write words all in capital letters unless they're abbreviations. To emphasize words put an underscore( "_" )_ on both sides of them. |
| 11:43.02 | abrotman | i hate the australian education system |
| 11:43.04 | tralala | abrotman: freedom-to-tinker.com will shed some light on the phone recording. It's only a theory but it makes an awful lot of sense. |
| 11:43.05 | redblades | I've always wanted to work for the NSA |
| 11:43.17 | abrotman | dli: that's not the point .. i'm merely stating what they said they are doing |
| 11:43.32 | liable | abrotman: you obviously havent ever been to an oz uni bar :) |
| 11:43.36 | bengrubb | (0,0) |
| 11:43.37 | jetscreamer | they and others have been working on such systems for years |
| 11:43.52 | abrotman | liable: if they're not naked .. i don't care! |
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| 11:44.11 | morsing | Hi |
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| 11:44.17 | liable | pfft |
| 11:44.30 | bengrubb | and the whole "internet people" are looking at making naughty sites change from .com to .xxx |
| 11:44.32 | abrotman | and anyways .. isn't this what #politics is for ? |
| 11:45.14 | bengrubb | lol there is politics.. |
| 11:45.26 | tralala | bengrubb: .xxx has been rejected |
| 11:45.27 | bengrubb | wonder if its monitored by the governent... |
| 11:45.36 | bengrubb | hmm thought it would |
| 11:45.48 | dli | let's talk about the politics of debian/linux vs debian/hurd :( |
| 11:45.58 | abrotman | #hurd? :) |
| 11:46.11 | bengrubb | hehe |
| 11:46.12 | jetscreamer | i heard that hurd is |
| 11:46.29 | abrotman | full of whitespace? |
| 11:46.42 | bengrubb | hehe |
| 11:47.14 | bengrubb | debian is black why can't it be white.. |
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| 11:47.29 | bengrubb | cant* |
| 11:47.37 | tralala | hurd is mainly a toy for kernel developers |
| 11:48.07 | dli | tralala, I am hoping reiser4 can be ported to hurd :( |
| 11:48.10 | bengrubb | so any developers here of Debian? |
| 11:48.26 | abrotman | many |
| 11:48.30 | tralala | bengrubb: even if there are they have probably ignored you already |
| 11:49.03 | bengrubb | thats not very nice i didn't hurt them |
| 11:49.22 | r_marvin | bengrubb: go to undernet if you feel like chatting, leave us be, please |
| 11:49.23 | tralala | dli: hope is a good thing (tm) |
| 11:49.34 | dli | bengrubb, usually, they only answer to real questions? not questions like "how do I upgrade the kernel" |
| 11:49.55 | js_ | can grub boot software raid5 volumes? |
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| 11:50.12 | abrotman | js_: you mean / on raid5 ? |
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| 11:50.19 | js_ | abrotman: yes |
| 11:50.20 | tralala | bengrubb: people come here to discuss debian, they tend to ignore the trolls |
| 11:50.24 | bengrubb | there's so many rooms to choose of its so confusing |
| 11:50.26 | r_marvin | js_: you need a /boot on raid1 |
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| 11:50.34 | tralala | !room |
| 11:50.34 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 11:50.41 | abrotman | or on nonraid |
| 11:50.50 | js_ | ah, okay |
| 11:50.52 | bengrubb | woah sorry |
| 11:50.55 | bengrubb | its ok |
| 11:50.59 | js_ | abrotman: what about xfs? |
| 11:51.01 | bengrubb | channels* |
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| 11:51.06 | abrotman | js_: what about xfs ? |
| 11:51.23 | js_ | abrotman: can grub boot it? |
| 11:51.29 | abrotman | js_: yes |
| 11:51.44 | tralala | bengrubb: you are welcome now to ask a real debian question. If there is still anyone out there who hasn't ignored you just yet, you might get an answer. |
| 11:52.01 | js_ | abrotman: odd, what filesystem is it grub has problems with? i remember something from the debian installer, but cant remember which fs it was |
| 11:52.12 | bengrubb | tralala: Thankyou for being informing |
| 11:52.17 | abrotman | js_: LVM ? |
| 11:52.30 | js_ | abrotman: no, just ordinary on one drive |
| 11:52.40 | abrotman | js_: eh ... not sure .. i'm pretty sure it's not xfs |
| 11:52.45 | Meaw | loading cache ./config.cache |
| 11:52.46 | Meaw | checking for gcc... gcc |
| 11:52.46 | Meaw | checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no |
| 11:52.46 | Meaw | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 11:52.46 | Meaw | ppp:/usr/local/src/rp-pppoe-3.5/src# |
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| 11:52.49 | js_ | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 11:52.50 | liable | js_: reiser4 |
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| 11:53.00 | tralala | !tell Meaw -about paste |
| 11:53.05 | Meaw | sorry |
| 11:53.17 | liable | thats what they all say... |
| 11:53.21 | js_ | ah, ok |
| 11:53.22 | bengrubb | www.pastebin.com |
| 11:53.38 | bengrubb | (i leanrt that) |
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| 11:54.01 | tralala | Meaw: what are you trying to compile anyway? |
| 11:54.04 | abrotman | !b-e meaw |
| 11:54.05 | dpkg | meaw: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 11:54.06 | tralala | and why? |
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| 11:54.21 | abrotman | tralala: looks like rp-pppoe |
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| 11:54.56 | tralala | abrotman: oh, yeah. I tend to ignore pasting in the channel |
| 11:55.00 | abrotman | liable: you mean the grub in sarge can't boot resier4? |
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| 11:55.21 | abrotman | liable: one would think .. that's because none of the kenrels in sarge have it afaik |
| 11:55.26 | liable | abrotman: grub at all as far as i was aware |
| 11:55.35 | liable | abrotman: no linux kernel has it. |
| 11:55.40 | liable | its a patch |
| 11:55.54 | abrotman | liable: grub has to know how to use the filesystem .. it's not like lilo that uses a direct address |
| 11:56.10 | Meaw | i have problem compile ppp using ./configure here is the paste http://pastebin.com/715115 |
| 11:56.26 | VoltageX | how can I set up X forwarding in debian? |
| 11:56.29 | Meaw | as im following steps in http://wrath.geoweb.ge/pppoe-server.html |
| 11:56.30 | js_ | abrotman: what do you mean by "direct address"? |
| 11:56.41 | VoltageX | the X server seems to be denying the connection from the remote host |
| 11:56.49 | liable | abrotman: hrm, i dunno if lilo can boot it either actually |
| 11:57.14 | stoffell | anyone compiled ntop latest release from source on debian? (i always get a libpcap error, but the -dev is installed..) |
| 11:57.24 | abrotman | js_: lilo says "I need to go to 0xabcde to get my kernel" .. grub says "I have to go to /boot/vmlinuz-2.7.9.e3.asdf" |
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| 11:57.38 | abrotman | liable: what a worthless filesystem :) |
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| 11:58.33 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:58.33 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 11:58.35 | liable | abrotman: heh, but its fast! |
| 11:58.36 | abrotman | stoffell: what's the error ? |
| 11:58.38 | liable | :P |
| 11:58.44 | abrotman | tarzeau: no OSX mac? |
| 11:58.45 | DevilChaos | hi i have a quick question i have a 300 gig disk that i use as an archive it has hidden files on it such as .gconf .iceauthority etc should those be there and why? |
| 11:58.47 | js_ | abrotman: what is that address to? a place in memory? |
| 11:58.52 | tralala | Meaw: this is for woody. Outdated perhaps. |
| 11:58.52 | RichiH | is there a daemon that will grab various podcasts? |
| 11:58.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: at work? |
| 11:59.00 | stoffell | abrotman: ERROR: pcap header, bpf or library routines are missing |
| 11:59.01 | abrotman | liable: fast doesn't mean good |
| 11:59.01 | RichiH | or a cli program i can cron |
| 11:59.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: anywhere |
| 11:59.08 | RichiH | you get the meaning :) |
| 11:59.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes, why? |
| 11:59.16 | stoffell | abrotman: but it finds the pcap.h files etc.. it does however say: pcap_open_live() in -lpcap...no |
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| 11:59.30 | liable | abrotman: i realise this, it was said in the best of ricer intentions.. :) |
| 11:59.35 | abrotman | tarzeau: a friend of mine would like to port briquolo to OSX .. but isn't well versed in C |
| 11:59.49 | redblades | I just tried make for xbnbt-81b.3 |
| 11:59.54 | abrotman | stoffell: might be too old of a pcap |
| 12:00.11 | stoffell | abrotman, ok, trying testing or unstable.. |
| 12:00.21 | abrotman | stoffell: eh ? |
| 12:00.23 | redblades | and I got a ton of errors all ending in: undeclared (first use this function) |
| 12:00.26 | tralala | can dpkg (the bot) give me the contents of a package? |
| 12:00.38 | abrotman | tralala: use packages.debian.org |
| 12:01.01 | liable | tralala: dont think so |
| 12:01.09 | stoffell | abrotman: gonna try updating the libpcap-dev to a testing/unstable version to see if that works |
| 12:01.21 | tralala | Meaw: debian has pppoe already packaged |
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| 12:01.38 | Meaw | pppoe server or Client? |
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| 12:01.39 | abrotman | !tell stoffell about simple sid backport |
| 12:01.44 | abrotman | stoffell: what are you trying to build ? |
| 12:01.50 | Meaw | i want the pppoe server not the client |
| 12:02.00 | stoffell | abrotman: ntop |
| 12:02.11 | abrotman | what's wrong with ntop in sarge? |
| 12:02.14 | tralala | Meaw: the packages has them both |
| 12:02.17 | tralala | package |
| 12:02.23 | Meaw | let me search then |
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| 12:02.53 | stoffell | i installed the unstable ntop (newer version) but it gives blank pages. that should (accoring to various posts) be solved by installing from source.. but that doesn't work |
| 12:02.54 | tralala | abrotman, liable: thanks |
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| 12:03.07 | Meaw | tralala no not really |
| 12:03.08 | Meaw | ppp:/# apt-cache search rp-pppoe |
| 12:03.08 | Meaw | ppp:/# |
| 12:03.11 | liable | oh, theres a grub patch for reiser4 anyway apparently |
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| 12:03.22 | abrotman | stoffell: and you want to see the most active items on your network ? |
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| 12:04.05 | abrotman | stoffell: had a look at jnettop ? |
| 12:04.13 | stoffell | abrotman; also, but i would like to compare the older ntop vs the newer (I have an older version running) |
| 12:04.21 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 12:04.36 | stoffell | not yet, but will also have a look at that one ;) |
| 12:04.47 | abrotman | i thnik it's way cooler than ntop :) |
| 12:04.55 | abrotman | must be the shiny flashy things |
| 12:05.02 | Meaw | tralala how about the errors im getting can i fix it? |
| 12:05.13 | abrotman | !b-e meaw |
| 12:05.13 | dpkg | meaw: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 12:05.22 | tralala | Meaw: apt-get install pppoe |
| 12:05.27 | stoffell | hehe |
| 12:05.54 | quitte | i can't get qemu to work with tap networking. i'm just told it cannot open /dev/net/tun |
| 12:05.59 | tarzeau | abrotman: why do all linux games look retarded? http://emhsoft.net/dh.html |
| 12:06.02 | tralala | Meaw: you don't need to compile. But if you want it really badly, then follow what abrotman told you (for a second time). |
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| 12:06.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: because they were more interested in the story than the graphics? |
| 12:06.59 | Meaw | tralala he didn't post for my anything , would you paste what he says please |
| 12:07.29 | abrotman | Meaw: yes i did .. twice |
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| 12:09.13 | tralala | Meaw: if you look up (about 10 lines) you will see it with your very own eyes. |
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| 12:10.12 | Meaw | he was talking to liable almost the time |
| 12:10.14 | Meaw | np |
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| 12:10.32 | VIm_Enforcer | anyone who could give me a guide to netinstall :P |
| 12:10.35 | abrotman | no .. i wasn't |
| 12:10.41 | abrotman | VIm_Enforcer: just ask |
| 12:10.57 | Meaw | can you repeat the line for me .. i can't find it |
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| 12:11.06 | VIm_Enforcer | for example, how to know my CPU model :P |
| 12:11.14 | VIm_Enforcer | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 12:11.17 | VIm_Enforcer | but |
| 12:11.22 | abrotman | you mean to download the ISO ? or what? |
| 12:11.33 | VIm_Enforcer | it doesn't show whether it's a x86 |
| 12:11.38 | tralala | Meaw: watch very carefully now! |
| 12:11.39 | VIm_Enforcer | abrotman: floppy images |
| 12:11.41 | tralala | !b-e Meaw |
| 12:11.41 | dpkg | Meaw: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 12:11.50 | abrotman | VIm_Enforcer: is it an intel or AMD? |
| 12:11.58 | VIm_Enforcer | intel |
| 12:12.00 | VIm_Enforcer | celeron |
| 12:12.00 | tralala | Meaw: and install an irc client that supports /lastlog |
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| 12:12.10 | abrotman | VIm_Enforcer: then it's x86/i386/-686 |
| 12:12.16 | VIm_Enforcer | heh |
| 12:12.48 | VIm_Enforcer | ya, i noticed, the other one was for 64 bit :) |
| 12:13.04 | abrotman | you have a 64bit celeron ? |
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| 12:13.06 | Meaw | oh heh tralala |
| 12:13.10 | Meaw | i saw it |
| 12:13.16 | Meaw | ty |
| 12:14.03 | Gnea | !beer abrotman |
| 12:14.11 | abrotman | and watches Gnea hit the floor of the channel! |
| 12:14.13 | abrotman | HAHAHAHAA |
| 12:14.17 | abrotman | Gnea: morning |
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| 12:14.34 | Meaw | !love abrotman |
| 12:14.36 | Gnea | holy lag batman! |
| 12:14.48 | VIm_Enforcer | abrotman: no wai man :) |
| 12:14.48 | Gnea | abrotman: lol |
| 12:14.54 | Meaw | aww |
| 12:14.57 | Meaw | bash bot |
| 12:15.13 | abrotman | VIm_Enforcer: ok .. so get the 386 floppies .. and when you're done installing .. you can install a -686 kernel |
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| 12:15.22 | Gnea | iirc, the bot is written in perl, not bash :) |
| 12:15.34 | VIm_Enforcer | abrotman: for 32 bit? |
| 12:15.39 | abrotman | VIm_Enforcer: sure |
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| 12:15.42 | VIm_Enforcer | k |
| 12:15.48 | tralala | Gnea: perhaps it's time for a rewrite :) |
| 12:15.49 | bbrazil | Gnea: written is the wrong word, incanted maybe? |
| 12:15.51 | VIm_Enforcer | won't the 386 suffice? |
| 12:16.00 | Gnea | bbrazil: 'typed' |
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| 12:16.18 | bbrazil | Gnea: perl isn't exactly typed |
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| 12:16.24 | Gnea | sure it is |
| 12:16.26 | Bombo | hi, i'm using debian/sarge for a couple of months and everything worked until yesterday, i can't login with xdm and sshd could not be started |
| 12:16.35 | bbrazil | Gnea: not strongly |
| 12:16.45 | abrotman | Gnea: no .. the letters are strewn about .. they just happen to compile :) |
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| 12:16.49 | Gnea | bbrazil: i should hope that the original keyboards are still functioning :) |
| 12:16.52 | Bombo | but local console login works |
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| 12:17.30 | Gnea | s/functioning/functional/g |
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| 12:17.35 | tralala | Bombo: paste the X log (not in here) |
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| 12:17.45 | liable | Bombo: logs are your friend |
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| 12:18.11 | marco13185 | I connected a second monitor (LCD) to my DVI port, and now X won't start, what are the changes I'll have to make to xorg.conf? |
| 12:18.13 | Gnea | abrotman: nothing like a good ass-kicking at work on a full moon ;) |
| 12:18.24 | abrotman | Gnea: are you at work ? |
| 12:18.40 | Gnea | abrotman: no way, i haven't been on IT for months |
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| 12:18.45 | Gnea | er, in |
| 12:18.51 | Gnea | can't type too well right now |
| 12:18.59 | abrotman | Gnea: so .. what .. you just sell your body? |
| 12:19.08 | Gnea | abrotman: to the debil! |
| 12:19.12 | abrotman | hehe |
| 12:19.13 | Gnea | j/k :) |
| 12:19.17 | abrotman | or the drunk on the corner! |
| 12:19.26 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 12:19.31 | aronofsky | hi , silly question, but what is the difference between package kernel-image and linux-image and which one should I install ? |
| 12:20.04 | Bombo | /etc/X11/Xsession: line 63: /dev/null: Permission denied |
| 12:20.16 | Bombo | ls -l /dev/null: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 13 14:19 /dev/null |
| 12:20.16 | Gnea | aronofsky: there was a name-change a number of months ago - linux-image is usually newer, you should check the version |
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| 12:20.20 | abrotman | aronofsky: etch/sid have migratied to the linux-image-* naming standard |
| 12:20.21 | liable | aronofsky: just a name change pretty much, the newer kernels all became linux-image |
| 12:20.45 | liable | !lose me |
| 12:20.45 | Gnea | Bombo: that should be a character device with mode 666 |
| 12:20.46 | dpkg | liable: You Lose. |
| 12:20.46 | abrotman | Bombo: htf did you do that? |
| 12:20.50 | aronofsky | ok thx |
| 12:20.56 | liable | dpkg: you lag |
| 12:20.57 | Bombo | Gnea: i didn't touch it |
| 12:21.01 | Bombo | abrotman: i didn't touch it |
| 12:21.01 | Gnea | abrotman: he probably removed it by accident then recreated it with touch |
| 12:21.05 | abrotman | aw yeah .. Luke is gonna eat 50 eggs! |
| 12:21.13 | Gnea | Bombo: you are a liar. |
| 12:21.16 | Bombo | Gnea: nope |
| 12:21.26 | marco13185 | I connected a second monitor (LCD) to my DVI port, and now X won't start, what are the changes I'll have to make to xorg.conf? |
| 12:21.51 | Bombo | Gnea: it worked two days ago, and i know that i didnt touch it yesterday |
| 12:22.03 | Gnea | Bombo: rm -f /dev/null && mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3 |
| 12:22.10 | abrotman | marco13185: start by looking in the error logs |
| 12:22.10 | pipeline | marco13185: Add a busid |
| 12:22.23 | pipeline | marco13185: The second monitor is probably being detected as a second graphics card :P |
| 12:23.21 | Bombo | Gnea: yes thx now its working again ;) |
| 12:23.45 | Gnea | Bombo: :) |
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| 12:24.45 | Bombo | but i really didnt do anything to /dev/null, hmmm strange or i was in trance |
| 12:24.57 | Bombo | its even nothing in the bash history |
| 12:25.05 | Bombo | about /dev/null |
| 12:25.12 | abrotman | Bombo: or you've been out with Gnea .. driving cars backwards and talking to drunks! |
| 12:25.17 | tarzeau | has someone got mr.boom and its source? |
| 12:25.39 | Bombo | abrotman: heh |
| 12:25.48 | Gnea | could'vebeen a bad inode |
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| 12:27.22 | abrotman | noone can eat 50 eggs |
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| 12:28.31 | Gnea | at once? |
| 12:28.35 | tralala | abrotman: I've eaten much more than that (in my entire life so far)! |
| 12:28.40 | abrotman | Gnea: cool hand luke |
| 12:28.49 | kristalino | can you help on modules install (modprobe) : http://pastebin.com/715139 ? |
| 12:28.57 | yohu123 | can anyone help me? |
| 12:28.58 | Gnea | abrotman: i beg to differ - there's an asain girl that can head 100 hamburgers |
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| 12:29.10 | abrotman | depmod -a ? |
| 12:29.15 | tralala | !tell yohu123 -about ask |
| 12:29.17 | abrotman | Gnea: it's a movie! |
| 12:29.18 | kristalino | yohu123, no we can't |
| 12:29.21 | Angels2 | slowly it drives me nuts.... debian sarge + apach2 + libapache2-mod-php4 = some php files are rendered... some are prompted as download. Does anybody know why apache2+php behaves like this? |
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| 12:29.31 | Gnea | abrotman: ROFL |
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| 12:29.51 | tralala | kristalino: cat /proc/version |
| 12:29.56 | yohu123 | my /usr/includes dir is empty even though i have gcc3.4 and gcc3.4base installed. someone told me that the package that contains the include libs is libc6-dev. when i tried to install it, i needed a later version of its dependancy ie.libc62.3.6-7 and i had only libc62.3.3. so when i tried to install the latest version of libc6 forcing it to search for that version, it says that its already the latest version. then someone told me that somehow the older ver |
| 12:30.02 | krnl`- | if i give bad "rcpt to" to smtp it gives error. fe 504. how can i start a new mail than? |
| 12:30.03 | yohu123 | thats when i was suggested to change the links in the sources.list file from stable links to testing links |
| 12:30.13 | yohu123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.28 | kristalino | tralala, Linux version 2.6.16-xen (root@rescue.ovh.net) (gcc version 3.4.5 (Gentoo 3.4.5-r1, ssp-3.4.5-1.0, pie-8.7.9)) #3 SMP Tue ay 2 18:45:39 GMT 2006 |
| 12:30.42 | abrotman | !b-e yohu123 |
| 12:30.43 | dpkg | yohu123: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 12:30.45 | Bombo | ok i got another problem now (had that before the /dev/null one) when i login remotely to the X server (cygwin X -query 10.5.0.2) i can see an entry for the user in "who" and in "w" but when i login directly on the machine itself i don't see the user with "w" BUT with "who", any explanation for that= |
| 12:31.29 | tralala | kristalino: it's a gentoo bug |
| 12:31.30 | Bombo | so the output of "who" and "w" differs |
| 12:31.48 | Bombo | btw i'm using wdm to login to the Xserver |
| 12:32.15 | kristalino | tralala, no, it is not. It's a debian VM. |
| 12:32.32 | Gnea | kristalino: debian doesn't have a VM, the kernel does. |
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| 12:32.50 | kristalino | Gnea, it's a debian domU |
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| 12:33.34 | pawdro | #msg dpkg xgl |
| 12:35.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=925 |
| 12:35.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: i've had the source somewhere, if only i could find it again :( |
| 12:35.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: i swear i'd port it |
| 12:35.42 | yohu123 | this is what i get when i type apt-get install build-essential... |
| 12:35.42 | abrotman | tarzeau: ewtf is it ? |
| 12:35.43 | yohu123 | Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that |
| 12:35.43 | yohu123 | the package is simply not installable and a bug report against |
| 12:35.43 | yohu123 | that package should be filed. |
| 12:35.43 | yohu123 | The following information may help to resolve the situation: |
| 12:35.43 | yohu123 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
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| 12:35.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: TEH best bomberman |
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| 12:36.11 | yohu123 | what happened, why was i kicked out? |
| 12:36.22 | tarzeau | or #flood"] |
| 12:36.39 | yohu123 | so how do i paste the error message that i get over here? |
| 12:37.08 | tralala | !tell yohu123 -about paste |
| 12:37.18 | Gnea | !tell yohu123 about paste |
| 12:37.18 | pawdro | how to install xgl on sid, except of installing by cvs? |
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| 12:37.26 | tralala | Gnea: gotcha! :) |
| 12:37.46 | yohu123 | can you guys read my errors from the #flood channel? |
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| 12:38.06 | Gnea | !paster |
| 12:38.06 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
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| 12:38.47 | liable | pawdro: its not in debian yet |
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| 12:40.06 | yohu123 | k done. when i use apt-get install build-essential i get this : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2535 |
| 12:40.09 | pawdro | liable: never mind yet, thanks |
| 12:40.26 | rann | hi, does anyone here have experience using dmraid? i've been using mdraid for a loong time, and the advantages of dmraid continue to elude me. Is it faster? why, since it is also swraid? any ideas or pointers? |
| 12:40.43 | Ramendik | hello. I have sarge. I want to update certain packages but apt-get won't update them; aptitude rteports them as held to the current version. /etc/apt/preferences does not mention them, but possibly did in the past. How do I remove version hold from packages, other than manually telling aptitute to "install" each one? |
| 12:40.43 | liable | pawdro: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/FAQ#whataboutxgl |
| 12:41.21 | Blissex | rann: 'dm' also has multipath and other high end stuff, and integrates better with LVM2. it is doubtful whether the latter is a big advantage. |
| 12:41.35 | Gnea | yohu123: try installing gcc |
| 12:41.41 | rann | Ramendik: I think you'd have to type apt-get dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade |
| 12:42.16 | Ramendik | grrrrrr |
| 12:42.39 | tralala | !comfort Ramendik |
| 12:42.39 | dpkg | There, there, Ramendik. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 12:42.41 | Ramendik | question: where are those holds hidden anyway? |
| 12:42.56 | tralala | there aren't any holds |
| 12:43.06 | Gnea | holds? |
| 12:43.07 | Ramendik | why then does aptitude say that the version is held? |
| 12:43.11 | Gnea | !hold |
| 12:43.11 | dpkg | hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' |
| 12:43.24 | Ramendik | it says "packade would be updated to version X but is held at version Y |
| 12:43.38 | Ramendik | oops |
| 12:43.39 | tralala | Ramendik: man apt-get |
| 12:43.45 | Ramendik | that's what I did |
| 12:44.00 | Ramendik | the thing is, in dpkg get-selections the packages are not shown as hold |
| 12:44.06 | Ramendik | but in aptitude they are |
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| 12:44.16 | liable | aptitude uses a different file |
| 12:44.34 | yohu123 | i cant go ahead installing anything new because now i get this : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2536 |
| 12:44.38 | liable | Ramendik: if you apt-get upgrade, do they upgrade? |
| 12:44.50 | yohu123 | how do i clear this. ive tried clean and autoclean |
| 12:44.58 | Ramendik | no they don't |
| 12:45.13 | Ramendik | apt-get just explicitly says that these packages will not be upgraded |
| 12:45.16 | Ramendik | and does not explain why |
| 12:45.26 | yohu123 | and this is happening since the time i change my sources.list links from stable to testing |
| 12:45.28 | tralala | yohu123: apt-get update |
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| 12:45.49 | yohu123 | finally, thats the one i want to show you guys |
| 12:45.50 | Ramendik | that's really unlike everything I'm used to in linux... I'm used to plain text configs and detailed logs |
| 12:46.00 | liable | Ramendik: use aptitude and upgrade them then |
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| 12:46.37 | Gnea | !stable->testing |
| 12:46.41 | r_marvin | Ramendik: try to upgrade them individually to find out why |
| 12:46.42 | Gnea | hrm |
| 12:46.47 | Gnea | !sarge->etch |
| 12:46.58 | Ramendik | well |
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| 12:47.10 | Ramendik | upgrading just does not work |
| 12:47.16 | liable | Ramendik: install |
| 12:47.19 | tralala | Ramendik: the manual explains it all, really |
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| 12:47.22 | Ramendik | well I'l try install |
| 12:47.28 | Ramendik | which manual? |
| 12:47.31 | Gnea | !testing |
| 12:47.32 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 12:47.40 | tralala | Ramendik: apt-get's |
| 12:47.42 | salah | !resolution |
| 12:47.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, resolution is How fine the pixels are. The higher the resolution, the more pixels that can be squeezed onto a screen, thereby giving the appearance that the pictures on your screen are smaller without losing any detail. Because the pictures are smaller you now have room to place more on your screen.. Use ctrl-alt-numpad_plus/minus to change it. Or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, or man xrandr, or see hwinfo, or ask me about drxx |
| 12:47.52 | Ramendik | I read it but it did not help |
| 12:47.57 | rann | Ramendik: what does apt-get dist-upgrade do? pastebin plz |
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| 12:48.33 | Space_Ace | Don't flame on me, but what's the Gentoo / 64 bit situation like? |
| 12:48.46 | liable | Space_Ace: how would we know? |
| 12:48.57 | Ramendik | ok I'll try dist-upgrade |
| 12:48.58 | rann | Space_ace: Yes, how? |
| 12:49.01 | Ramendik | really did not want to |
| 12:49.11 | Ramendik | but will try now |
| 12:49.18 | Gnea | !gentoo |
| 12:49.18 | dpkg | i guess gentoo is a ports-based Linux distro for x86, PowerPC, Sparc, Sparc64. Maybe akin to BSD. Something you don't want to administer more than 2 of. Nice file browser. Its users are gentoobies. See Also http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2003/44/ http://www.devcave.net/termos/funny/gentoo.htm http://www.funroll-loops.org/ or ask me about 'greenhouse'. bash.org/?464385 or rice rice rice rice, or http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/gentoo.jpg |
| 12:49.22 | rann | just dont type "yes". |
| 12:49.23 | tralala | Ramendik: you will need to read it again, focusing on the upgrade mechanism |
| 12:49.31 | Gnea | Space_Ace: sorry, wrong channel. |
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| 12:50.17 | tralala | Space_Ace: I think it must be great. I don't really know but this is how I feel about it. |
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| 12:50.53 | Ramendik | dist-upgrade works |
| 12:51.08 | tralala | Space_Ace: of course, I might do some research with google and present you the results if you like. |
| 12:51.10 | Ramendik | I'll now read through the dist-upgrade package list so it does not upgrade too much |
| 12:51.37 | rann | Ramendik: did you per-chance happen to have changed from stable to something else lately? |
| 12:51.56 | rann | in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 12:52.01 | furby | hihi! does anyone here care to help an 18yrold swedish cheerleader understand atp-move? |
| 12:52.12 | liable | haha |
| 12:52.27 | rann | furby: that _has_ to be a sarcastic joke. |
| 12:52.29 | abrotman | only norwegian ... |
| 12:52.32 | liable | photos! |
| 12:52.42 | Ronin | we'd need proof of you being an 18year sweedish cheerleader first, oh and a female one at that :) |
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| 12:52.59 | furby | a photo for each resonse that doesn't include "man apt-move" |
| 12:53.06 | salah | hi. I am trying to fix my screen resolution, XF86Config-4 don't work, and xf86cfg/xf86config asks for my horiz. and vertical sync for my screen which I don't have. the screen resolution goes to 1024x768 and nothing more. it should go to 1600x1200. any ideas what to do? |
| 12:53.20 | Gnea | furby: so what's the problem? |
| 12:53.37 | abrotman | !drxx salah |
| 12:53.37 | dpkg | salah: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:53.42 | abrotman | !tell salah about xmd6 |
| 12:53.43 | abrotman | !tell salah about xmd5 |
| 12:53.43 | Ramendik | no, I'm on stable, trying to stick in a KDE backport |
| 12:53.52 | furby | thanks Gnea: apt-move makes my nose bleed, can I pm you for a few mins? |
| 12:53.54 | rann | salah: pastebin your /etc/X11/XF86Config |
| 12:54.04 | tralala | !msg |
| 12:54.04 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 12:54.04 | abrotman | rann: that's not even the right file |
| 12:54.17 | Gnea | furby: that's highly unlikely - let's keep it in the channel, but i'll help ya out best i can |
| 12:54.20 | Ramendik | andI actually cancelled dist-upgrade - it held back kdenetwork and it held back hal, these are key kde dependencies apparently |
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| 12:54.28 | Ramendik | why it held them back it did not tell |
| 12:54.34 | Ramendik | I wish I could make it do verbose logging |
| 12:54.55 | rann | what?! it's xorg.conf already? or XF86Config-4? |
| 12:55.06 | Gnea | furby: basically, apt-move is used to generate a mirror that's suitable for use as a server |
| 12:55.20 | furby | ok, thanks Gnea I'm looking to create a very rough and ready debian custom cd for an application install, just a bunch of debs included I know we need and then some custom packages or similar. |
| 12:55.21 | Gnea | furby: the url can then be placed in an sources.list file |
| 12:55.35 | salah | rann: http://pastebin.com/715175 |
| 12:55.48 | furby | gnea: that's the long story, short term is I'm stuck on square 1, creating a local mirror |
| 12:55.49 | Gnea | furby: as for usage goes, what's drying your nosehairs out? |
| 12:55.59 | Gnea | i see |
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| 12:56.08 | furby | gnea: I just can''t get my head around the usage page |
| 12:56.52 | Gnea | furby: what sort of mirror do you want to create? a whole one? |
| 12:56.59 | abrotman | salah: you're going to have to paste your log from /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 12:56.59 | furby | gnea: so if i've gathered all the debs I need by "apt-get -d install stuff" how then to make a local mirror...? |
| 12:57.15 | furby | gnea: no, just the 50 or sao vital componants |
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| 12:57.23 | salah | sure, just a sec. |
| 12:57.37 | abrotman | Gnea: i have an idea .. let's start a backwards driving racing club! |
| 12:57.45 | rann | salah: what kind of monitor do you have? those HorizSync and VertRefresh values seem a little low for the resolutions you're trying to run; |
| 12:58.45 | Gnea | furby: it's been awhile since i used it, so i'm double-checking |
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| 12:58.59 | salah | rann: my monitor is a HP Monitor A4575A, http://www.si87.com/MonitorSolutions/hp/a4575a.html |
| 12:59.00 | furby | gnea: thanks man, I really appreciate it :-) |
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| 12:59.12 | rann | X tries to give you the resolution you want (ie. the Modes lines in the Screen section) but it won't do it because of the low H/V stuff me thinks |
| 12:59.19 | abrotman | those sync values are almost correct |
| 12:59.25 | Gnea | furby: got any teasers? :) |
| 12:59.31 | rann | 20-100khz / 50-120 hz |
| 12:59.51 | salah | rann: so what do I have to do now? |
| 12:59.52 | rann | that's what your monitor can handle according to the link you gave |
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| 13:00.16 | rann | look at the Horisync and vertrefresh values |
| 13:00.18 | l1nux | howto dpkg-buildpackage (from binary) with "control file" dependency |
| 13:00.22 | salah | yeah, I see, but I don't know where to give that information to the X server |
| 13:00.29 | dli | any suggestion for tools to be on a livecd |
| 13:00.42 | Gnea | dli: depends what you want it to do |
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| 13:01.00 | abrotman | what we got here is .. failure to communicate ... |
| 13:01.03 | rann | it's now at 28 to 50 for Horiz and 43-75 for Vert |
| 13:01.07 | rann | a little low |
| 13:01.11 | salah | yeah |
| 13:01.16 | yohu123 | i cant seem to paste my apt-get update errors now. but it says that the link cannot be found 404 not found |
| 13:01.36 | Gnea | abrotman: i'm beginning to think that this whole 'cheerleader' bit is a bunch of BS |
| 13:01.43 | dli | Gnea, I'm open to ideas, the squashfs is only -rwx------ 1 root root 429M May 13 06:15 livecd.squashfs |
| 13:01.51 | furby | you havn't seen the pic :-) |
| 13:01.56 | abrotman | Gnea: would it help you if i put some lipstick on ? |
| 13:02.04 | salah | rann: should I change to 20 - 100 for horiz and 50 - 120 to vert? |
| 13:02.05 | tralala | yohu123: you have a wrong sources.list, you might fix it with apt-setup |
| 13:02.06 | Gnea | furby: there's only 1? |
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| 13:02.15 | yohu123 | im using slirp and sometimes slirp just times out? |
| 13:02.22 | Gnea | abrotman: egads |
| 13:02.24 | furby | gnea: it's a teaser! |
| 13:02.35 | rann | salah: exactly! |
| 13:02.42 | Gnea | furby: i'm still waiting... |
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| 13:03.30 | Gnea | furby: have you run apt-move get? |
| 13:03.32 | furby | gnea: it's there, dcc |
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| 13:03.48 | Gnea | furby: silly, i'm on IPv6 |
| 13:03.55 | furby | gnea: yeah, had to do that before running sync |
| 13:04.00 | rann | HorizSync 20 - 100 |
| 13:04.06 | salah | rann: ok, im trying that :) |
| 13:04.09 | rann | VertRefresh 50 - 120 |
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| 13:04.12 | furby | gnea: ipv6? howcome? |
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| 13:04.25 | Gnea | furby: duh... it's new |
| 13:04.35 | furby | gnea: hehehe |
| 13:04.43 | Gnea | furby: you should msg me a url |
| 13:04.49 | furby | gnea: I'm on ipxv10 so there |
| 13:05.06 | Gnea | furby: which is IPv4, like 127.0.0.1 |
| 13:05.10 | furby | gnea: url for what? |
| 13:05.20 | Gnea | the picture, of course |
| 13:05.30 | furby | gnea: aha! ok...brb |
| 13:05.31 | Gnea | 2001:5c0:8ef3:b4b3:0:0:0:3 <--- that's seperated by colons, not dots |
| 13:05.33 | Gnea | ok |
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| 13:06.24 | chrysopa | himsky1, I make a upgrade to testing now and KDE dont work anymore? Any Idea? |
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| 13:06.31 | chrysopa | I make a upgrade to testing now and KDE dont work anymore? Any Idea? |
| 13:06.52 | fourat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.55 | furby | gnea: http://photos.sentientvoip.com/hotpussy.jpg |
| 13:07.21 | abrotman | fourat: /msg dpkg backports |
| 13:07.22 | rann | furby: lol |
| 13:07.35 | furby | rann: hehe |
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| 13:07.48 | furby | gnea: hah, there's more where that came from |
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| 13:08.03 | Gnea | furby: you are a lying sack of shit, you shall receive no further help, good-bye. |
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| 13:08.32 | furby | gnea: no, really I do need help with apt-move! i wasn't lying :-) |
| 13:08.34 | himsky1 | chrysopa, what is your linux version? |
| 13:08.38 | salah | rann: still here? |
| 13:08.46 | tralala | Gnea: don't tell me you actually expected to have a chat about apt with a cheer leader! |
| 13:08.48 | rann | salah: yes |
| 13:08.50 | Gnea | furby: then stop playing games. |
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| 13:09.08 | salah | rann: it works perfectly now, thanks for your help :-) |
| 13:09.12 | Gnea | tralala: oh please, plenty of hot babes use debian |
| 13:09.13 | chrysopa | kernel 2.6.15-1-686 on debian testing |
| 13:09.19 | rann | salah: no prob dude! nice monitor btw |
| 13:09.29 | furby | gnea: ok, first the apt-move then I'm off to the sweedish embassy to change my nationality then off to the doctors for the other bit. |
| 13:09.29 | Gnea | tralala: and she was the one that made the deal originally |
| 13:09.30 | tralala | Gnea: yeah, take me for example... |
| 13:09.55 | Miesco | In pine it says: search-base, what do I put for that? |
| 13:09.57 | Gnea | furby: i do not respond well to lies and deception. |
| 13:10.02 | yohu123 | ok. this is what i get when i type apt-get update : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2537 |
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| 13:10.21 | abrotman | yohu123: there is no more non-us |
| 13:10.23 | liable | tralala: r u a girl? |
| 13:10.34 | furby | gnea: I'm sorry to mislead, I have a problem, I've been questioning my ability to use apt-get and the uncertaintly has lead to all sorts of issues of identity. |
| 13:10.37 | Gnea | !non-us |
| 13:10.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, non-us is where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see ... |
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| 13:10.42 | nvz | !aolsmite liable |
| 13:10.45 | chrysopa | The process stop on starting system services |
| 13:10.46 | tralala | liable: depends who's asking ;) |
| 13:10.48 | Gnea | furby: apparantly. |
| 13:11.05 | marco13185 | how do I reconfigure a package with dpkg and force it to overwrite an existing config file? |
| 13:11.06 | liable | !aolify nvz |
| 13:11.14 | nvz | :P |
| 13:11.14 | liable | :P |
| 13:11.21 | yohu123 | so can anyone please give me the correct links for the testing packages to put in sources.list? |
| 13:11.25 | furby | gnea: it's a hard life for us naked 17yrold patagonian drum makers |
| 13:11.31 | Gnea | !testing |
| 13:11.31 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 13:11.47 | tralala | yohu123: use apt-setup (for a second time) |
| 13:11.54 | abrotman | tralala: not in testing |
| 13:12.04 | tralala | oh! |
| 13:12.04 | marco13185 | how do I reconfigure a package with dpkg and force it to overwrite an existing config file? |
| 13:12.08 | yohu123 | tralala: i should type apt-setup |
| 13:12.12 | tralala | !shoot me |
| 13:12.12 | Gnea | furby: yeah, all that radiation fallout from chernobyl must've put a dent in many a career huh |
| 13:12.17 | abrotman | !find apt-setup etch |
| 13:12.42 | chrysopa | this kde problem is a general problem? I need to wait a new version to fix this problem? |
| 13:12.50 | nerdpaulista | print ('What'hell, somepeople work with Python') |
| 13:12.58 | tralala | yohu123: apparently it's not in etch, sorry |
| 13:13.17 | nerdpaulista | print('Sorry my english is Sux') print ('I am brazilian') |
| 13:13.18 | furby | gnea: the effects were far reaching. 10yrs last week since, alot of seick people still about, it's a bit wrong. Worse happened in Russia though, just didn't effect other countries |
| 13:13.22 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: stop |
| 13:13.37 | abrotman | !br |
| 13:13.37 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 13:13.42 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:what? |
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| 13:14.01 | marco13185 | how do I reconfigure a package with dpkg and force it to overwrite an existing config file? |
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| 13:14.26 | abrotman | it should |
| 13:14.26 | nvz | man dpkg-reconfigure |
| 13:14.28 | liable | marco13185: you dont need to force it |
| 13:14.40 | Gnea | furby: i know, and i'm sorry that you have to go through all of that. i'm in the states so that problem isn't as direct here, but let's try to get past this - i'm actually reading the manpage for apt-move and there are some environment variables that may interest you |
| 13:14.41 | furby | gnea: anyway, can you answer me a quick question then I'll stop being a bother: do you have a link to a quick explaination of making a local mirror of just the .debs you have in the cache? |
| 13:14.48 | liable | unless its xfree.conf |
| 13:14.53 | furby | gnea: thanks man, |
| 13:14.54 | marco13185 | liable: whenever I've tried to reconfigure X before it says that the xorg.conf file has been customized and thus it won't be written liable |
| 13:15.07 | nerdpaulista | *NOVO* |
| 13:15.10 | abrotman | marco13185: that's not the case anymore .. or it hsouldn't be |
| 13:15.12 | liable | marco13185: read the top of your xorg.conf |
| 13:15.18 | nerdpaulista | Python, somepeople? |
| 13:15.19 | Gnea | furby: actually, sync does that - by default, it sets everything up in /mirror |
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| 13:15.20 | abrotman | !tell nerdpaulista about br |
| 13:15.25 | abrotman | !tell nerdpaulista about python |
| 13:15.41 | furby | gnea: cool, damn me for missing that :-) |
| 13:16.00 | nerdpaulista | !tell abrotman about perl |
| 13:16.04 | furby | gnea: don't spose you have any pointers for the next stage, or is it just add local mirror to list file |
| 13:16.12 | Gnea | furby: basically it yanks everything from /var/cache/apt/archives/ and places it in /mirror/debian/* |
| 13:16.17 | vkat | how do change cursor? the mouse arrow.. style |
| 13:16.31 | furby | gnea: thanks, I'll carry on reading. Much appreciated |
| 13:16.36 | nerdpaulista | Somepeople like Black Sabbath? |
| 13:16.38 | nerdpaulista | lol |
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| 13:16.45 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: do you have a Debian question? |
| 13:16.47 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'apt-setup' (3): (/usr/share/fish/completions/apt-setup.fish) in shells/fish ;; (/usr/share/debian-cd/data/woody/apt-setup.html.in, /usr/share/debian-cd/data/potato/apt-setup.html.in) in admin/debian-cd ;; (/usr/share/doc/dahb-html/html/apt-setup.html, /usr/share/doc/dahb-html/html/bilder/instweiter/apt-setup.png) in non-free/doc/dahb-html. |
| 13:16.55 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:yepp |
| 13:17.00 | abrotman | really .. what is it? |
| 13:17.09 | Gnea | furby: check out /etc/apt-move.conf |
| 13:17.14 | marco13185 | liable: "Postins warning: not updating /etc/X11/X: file has been customized" |
| 13:17.31 | furby | gnea: thanks mate, I was doing so but It got confused, the options seemed un-explained. |
| 13:17.43 | liable | marco13185: did you do as i said and read the top of xorg.conf? |
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| 13:18.02 | furby | gnea: actually it makes sense now :-) thanks again! |
| 13:18.02 | Gnea | furby: yeah, it can be daunting at times :) |
| 13:18.10 | marco13185 | liable: yes |
| 13:18.15 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:What i install the libjpeg, when i type apt-get install libjpeg dį erro |
| 13:18.17 | yohu123 | should i type this at prompt : sed -e "s/stable/testing/" srcs >>sources.list |
| 13:18.27 | marco13185 | I ran that command "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" |
| 13:18.28 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: if you can't speak in english .. try #debian-br |
| 13:18.29 | yohu123 | will this copy the latest testing links into sources.list ? |
| 13:18.30 | marco13185 | and it gave me that error |
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| 13:18.34 | marco13185 | liable: ^ |
| 13:18.40 | geoaxis | offtopic question : plz dont flame me ..i need to access CVS ..but i am behind firewall ..cvsgrab is no option as there is no ViewCVS In the server ..only lxr .. |
| 13:18.42 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:debian-br is a shit |
| 13:18.42 | rann | bye guys, i'm off. greets! |
| 13:18.42 | Gnea | furby: good luck with that :) |
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| 13:18.47 | furby | gnea: ok I go to play, thanks again :-) |
| 13:18.58 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:none speak in this channel |
| 13:19.02 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: well .. unless you're going to show us the error .. i can't guess |
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| 13:19.51 | liable | marco13185: this is xorg7 i take it? |
| 13:19.54 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:you have kxmame? |
| 13:19.56 | marco13185 | liable: yep |
| 13:20.07 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: go to #debian-br |
| 13:20.28 | furby | gnea: sorry man, I shouldv'e asked before, how to I specify "APTSITES=" sytactically, how to I specify the local mirror (presume I need to) |
| 13:20.37 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:no i wish this channel |
| 13:20.49 | marco13185 | liable: since I connected my TV to my PC through DVI, x has not started |
| 13:20.53 | marco13185 | so I want to reconfigure it, but I can't |
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| 13:21.10 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: what does kxmame have to do with libjpeg ? |
| 13:21.16 | liable | marco13185: hand edit then, i was getting those errors on upgrades, but the last one overwrote it anyway |
| 13:21.16 | Gnea | furby: on the command line, you just type: APTSITES="mirrors.debian.org another.site.name.com" |
| 13:21.30 | Gnea | furby: that's an environment variable |
| 13:21.44 | marco13185 | liable: I don't know what's wrong with xorg though |
| 13:21.51 | marco13185 | it just stopped working since the last time I rebooted |
| 13:21.58 | liable | marco13185: the log is a good place to start |
| 13:22.00 | yohu123 | guys, the non-us link doesnt exist anymore? |
| 13:22.02 | marco13185 | I didn't even dist-upgrade before it stopped working |
| 13:22.12 | liable | marco13185: you can always remove the file and reconfigure |
| 13:22.14 | marco13185 | liable: the last item on the log is it starting the glx module |
| 13:22.16 | yohu123 | so should i remove the non-us links from the sources.list file? |
| 13:22.21 | furby | gnea: so the conf file is just env var but how to specify local mirror? APTSITES="localhost"? |
| 13:22.24 | liable | marco13185: yes |
| 13:22.25 | marco13185 | liable: the file that's giving me problems is X |
| 13:22.31 | marco13185 | not xorg.conf |
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| 13:22.50 | marco13185 | liable: I don't think removing that file is safe, is it? |
| 13:23.21 | liable | marco13185: yes. just move it if you are paranoid |
| 13:23.32 | nerdpaulista | Some person has msn for I to decide my doubt? I do not want to decide in this forum, brotman only complains of me. |
| 13:23.41 | yohu123 | anyone? |
| 13:23.55 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: please go to #debian-br .. |
| 13:23.56 | Gnea | furby: yeah that should work - not sure if it needs apache or not |
| 13:24.08 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:debian-br is a shit man |
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| 13:24.09 | furby | gnea: cool, thanks :-) |
| 13:24.14 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: so is your english |
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| 13:24.37 | nerdpaulista | None speaks swims in this canal. |
| 13:24.42 | nerdpaulista | oops |
| 13:24.50 | nerdpaulista | None speaks swims in this channel |
| 13:25.09 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:debian-br is a very very very big shit |
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| 13:25.27 | yohu123 | :) |
| 13:25.44 | nerdpaulista | yohu123:have msn? |
| 13:25.57 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 13:25.59 | marco13185 | liable: did that, startx still does not work. It starts, but the screen is blank |
| 13:26.11 | marco13185 | liable: I see some text flash around when I start gdm |
| 13:26.11 | liable | nerdpaulista: just try it, the only person that can tell if you will like it is you |
| 13:26.12 | yohu123 | yup. but i wont be able to help you. im a noob as well and im in big big shit |
| 13:26.20 | yohu123 | ;) |
| 13:26.31 | abrotman | liable: no .. he wants someone to help him not on irc |
| 13:26.44 | Eclipser | is there a debian package for libfaad-dev somewhere? sid doesn't seem to have them at least |
| 13:26.57 | liable | marco13185: check the log. really, thats the first thing you should be looking at. |
| 13:27.31 | abrotman | !find faad sid |
| 13:27.32 | marco13185 | liable: the glx module is the problem |
| 13:27.39 | marco13185 | liable: that was the last line on the log |
| 13:27.43 | liable | abrotman: huh? that satement was as confusing as most of his are :P |
| 13:27.43 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'faad' (3): (/usr/lib/vlc/{libfaad.a|libfaad_pic.a}) in libdevel/libvlc0-dev ;; (/usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_decode_faad.so) in libs/libxine1 ;; (/usr/share/typo3/typo3_src-3.7/typo3/sysext/install/verify_imgs/{install_d1fa76faad.gif|install_d1fa76faad.png}) in web/typo3-src-3.7. |
| 13:27.43 | nerdpaulista | yohu123:Tell me your msn |
| 13:27.43 | marco13185 | initializing glx |
| 13:27.56 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: stop doing that |
| 13:28.03 | marco13185 | liable: but why would the glx module cause problems if it worked last boot? |
| 13:28.27 | nerdpaulista | fool |
| 13:28.28 | Gnea | nerdpaulista: no wonder you think #debian-br is shit |
| 13:28.29 | Eclipser | vlc o.O |
| 13:28.30 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: http://debian-br.cipsga.org.br/ |
| 13:28.37 | dli | marco13185, just fix it :( this is not a history channel |
| 13:28.59 | liable | marco13185: just cause it worked last boot doesnt mean anything, i have upgraded x about 6 times since i last booted this box |
| 13:30.14 | nerdpaulista | YOhan irani |
| 13:30.15 | Eclipser | bah |
| 13:30.18 | nerdpaulista | tell with e |
| 13:30.21 | nerdpaulista | tell with me* |
| 13:30.24 | Eclipser | I don't want to install vlc for the libfaad dev files... |
| 13:30.26 | liable | Miesco: so dont load glx |
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| 13:31.28 | Vegar | can someone please remove GuL? he/she/it is sending spam on join |
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| 13:31.33 | salah | how do I install openoffice? It's a lot of deb files.. |
| 13:31.57 | nerdpaulista | what i do one distribuition |
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| 13:32.12 | Ronin | salah: same way you do everythign else apt-get install |
| 13:32.20 | liable | Vegar: !ops foo is doing blah |
| 13:32.29 | fisrado | hi, I am trying to install debian sarge from cd-rom, everytime i boot it with iso burned on the cd, the detect and mount cdrom step fails. How can i mount the cdrom? |
| 13:32.35 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: go to #debian-br |
| 13:32.40 | nerdpaulista | ... |
| 13:32.40 | liable | Vegar: will bring it to the attention of the channel ops |
| 13:32.54 | Vegar | !ops GuL is sending spam on join |
| 13:32.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: GuL is sending spam on join |
| 13:33.06 | nerdpaulista | the admin of debian-br me expulsou de kpa |
| 13:33.09 | nerdpaulista | lį* |
| 13:33.22 | Vegar | thanks, liable |
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| 13:33.23 | Gnea | !troll nerdpaulista |
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| 13:33.40 | nerdpaulista | ok ok |
| 13:33.47 | abrotman | nerdpaulista: your english is horrible. You're not going to get any help here .. use #debian-br |
| 13:33.55 | Gnea | nerdpaulista: fucking stay on topic or get the hell out |
| 13:33.55 | nerdpaulista | disclaime a troll why im exit |
| 13:34.26 | asg | abrotman: when did the spantards get replaced by bratards? |
| 13:34.27 | nerdpaulista | abrotman:me desintitula de troll que eu saio |
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| 13:34.38 | abrotman | asg: nope .. just tards |
| 13:34.39 | prophile | yo |
| 13:34.46 | Gnea | it's afk time, baby! |
| 13:34.56 | nerdpaulista | !troll abrotman |
| 13:34.58 | prophile | anyone want a game of nettoe? (might as well ask here) |
| 13:35.01 | fisrado | can someone give me a hand here? i can not mount the cdrom at install time |
| 13:35.04 | abrotman | Gnea: going backwards driving eh ? |
| 13:35.04 | GaiaX11 | nerdpaulista |
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| 13:35.31 | GaiaX11 | The debian-br adm is very nasty |
| 13:35.38 | abrotman | they didn't kick him .. he left |
| 13:35.49 | GaiaX11 | He always does that |
| 13:36.23 | johannes | hi, im looking for a lan scanner which shows me all windows/samba shares in the scanned ip range, and where i can access these shares with just a double click or something like that. any ideas? |
| 13:36.23 | salah | Ronin: it don't work. I get a errormessage where it says that I have to install the core package. the core package needs some other packages, and these packages needs core-packages again... |
| 13:36.26 | liable | who? what? huh |
| 13:36.38 | GaiaX11 | He is unnable to speak with people, but always uses his power |
| 13:36.51 | abrotman | GaiaX11: i assume you mean fatalerror |
| 13:36.54 | Vegar | johannes: there is a lot of software that does that |
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| 13:37.09 | Ronin | salah: what did you try to apt-get? i know openoffice but what package name? |
| 13:37.32 | salah | johannes, smb4k is the thing you are searching for. doing exacly what you are searching for |
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| 13:37.39 | GaiaX11 | His name is idontknow |
| 13:37.48 | johannes | salah, thx, ill try it |
| 13:37.52 | salah | Ronin: just apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 13:38.00 | abrotman | GaiaX11: ? .. that person isn't in there |
| 13:38.09 | abrotman | GaiaX11: oh .. you mean udontknow .. or udk |
| 13:38.18 | GaiaX11 | Udontknow |
| 13:38.27 | GaiaX11 | Yes |
| 13:38.35 | GaiaX11 | I am a Brazilian |
| 13:38.44 | johannes | salah, i just saw that it seems to be only for kde, is there something for gnome, too? |
| 13:38.51 | GaiaX11 | But, i do not access debian-br |
| 13:38.57 | GaiaX11 | Because of him |
| 13:39.05 | abrotman | i've heard the #debian.de channel is nasty too |
| 13:39.07 | salah | johannes, it works fine for gnome too.. |
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| 13:39.19 | GaiaX11 | We normaly do not agree about many things |
| 13:39.20 | asg | abrotman: why don't they just complain |
| 13:39.26 | Ronin | umm what does the wm have to do with installing openoffice? |
| 13:39.28 | abrotman | asg: to who? |
| 13:39.40 | asg | abrotman: to the cabal |
| 13:39.43 | GaiaX11 | I prefer to stick to #debian and #debian-es |
| 13:39.50 | abrotman | asg: AFAICT .. the nasty people are the DDs |
| 13:40.05 | GaiaX11 | He is not able to be a admin |
| 13:40.06 | asg | abrotman: indeed |
| 13:40.10 | liable | brazilian ones? |
| 13:40.13 | abrotman | GaiaX11: <fatalerror> nerdpaulista: sair Ć© tĆ£o fĆ”cil quanto entrar .. what does that mean ? |
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| 13:40.47 | Ronin | means he wants to meet you fro drinks after? ;) |
| 13:40.56 | asg | drinks! |
| 13:41.00 | abrotman | !beer asg |
| 13:41.04 | GaiaX11 | Going out is too easy as to go in |
| 13:41.13 | abrotman | eh? |
| 13:41.22 | abrotman | well .. that was from a DD .. oh well |
| 13:41.49 | liable | hrm, might have to add a "fine victoria bitter" to the beer factoid.. :P |
| 13:41.59 | Gnea | GaiaX11: well that explains a lot - he doesn't really have any power, and if he persists in such negativity, he will be removed. |
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| 13:42.09 | abrotman | Gnea: he's a channel op |
| 13:42.36 | Gnea | abrotman: so? |
| 13:42.45 | abrotman | Gnea: he does have power? |
| 13:42.47 | GaiaX11 | Sorry to say that about him. But, it is a pity when a person cannot stay in his own channel language |
| 13:42.49 | liable | hes god?? :P |
| 13:42.57 | GaiaX11 | But i find more help here |
| 13:43.06 | GaiaX11 | and in #debian-es |
| 13:43.10 | Gnea | abrotman: bad attitudes are no excuse for being off-topic. |
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| 13:43.20 | chrysopa | I think tha the problem with my kde maybe because my lo interface is not up. How to make it up? |
| 13:43.27 | asg | chrysopa: ifup lo |
| 13:43.45 | chrysopa | I give an error on it |
| 13:43.47 | abrotman | GaiaX11: but your english isn't that bad .. nerdpaulista doesn't have very good english skills .. and i understand it's hard .. but it's got to be pretty hard to get help in a language you can't speak well .. and may not read well |
| 13:43.47 | dli | chrysopa, edit your /etc/network/interfaces after that |
| 13:43.53 | asg | chrysopa: check /etc/network/interfaces to find out why it didn't come up automatically |
| 13:43.58 | abrotman | Gnea: i'm offtopic? |
| 13:43.58 | dli | chrysopa, lo must be up, kde or not |
| 13:44.09 | tralala | chrysopa: add auto lo to your interfaces file |
| 13:44.15 | Gnea | abrotman: you have a bad attitude? |
| 13:44.17 | GaiaX11 | I see |
| 13:44.21 | Gnea | :) |
| 13:44.22 | Vegar | chrysopa: what error? |
| 13:44.27 | abrotman | Gnea: so i've been told |
| 13:44.29 | liable | chrysopa: auto lo; iface lo inet loopback (in your interfaces file) |
| 13:44.35 | GaiaX11 | I lived in England for nearly 3 years |
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| 13:44.49 | abrotman | GaiaX11: i guess it's hard for me to judge .. i can barely speak english .. mostly just curse words come out :) |
| 13:45.14 | Gnea | GaiaX11: that's all fine and dandy, but now you're being offtopic. if you're done, let's get on with helping and get help. |
| 13:45.16 | asg | abrotman: soapy titwank |
| 13:45.16 | liable | !phillysmite abrotman |
| 13:45.17 | nerdpaulista | how i'm connect to brasnet? |
| 13:45.20 | GaiaX11 | So, this is the reason why my English is not so bad |
| 13:45.24 | chrysopa | dli, look the error:SIOCSIFADDR: No such device, lo: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device, Failed to bring up lo. |
| 13:45.25 | asg | nerdpaulista: google |
| 13:45.27 | fisrado | hi, I am trying to install debian sarge from cd-rom, everytime i boot it with iso burned on the cd, the detect and mount cdrom step fails. How can i mount the cdrom? |
| 13:45.33 | chrysopa | What is my problem? |
| 13:45.35 | abrotman | GaiaX11: ah .. gotcha .. |
| 13:45.41 | GaiaX11 | Ok! |
| 13:45.42 | xbmodder_lappy | GRRR |
| 13:45.43 | asg | chrysopa: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 13:45.47 | chrysopa | no |
| 13:45.47 | Gnea | chrysopa: what kernel is that? |
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| 13:45.55 | asg | chrysopa: did you run 'ifup lo' as root? |
| 13:46.02 | GaiaX11 | Sorry about complaining here |
| 13:46.04 | chrysopa | linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 from debian testing |
| 13:46.06 | dli | chrysopa, custom kernel? you forgot loopback in "block devices" |
| 13:46.07 | liable | fisrado: have you tried both kernels? |
| 13:46.07 | Gnea | xbmodder_lappy: what? |
| 13:46.16 | Gnea | GaiaX11: it's no problem, thank you for bringing it to light |
| 13:46.29 | fisrado | i tried the default .. which shud be 2.6 i suppose |
| 13:46.30 | chrysopa | asg, yes, I make it as root |
| 13:46.30 | abrotman | Gnea: are you going to fix it?!!? |
| 13:46.46 | tralala | chrysopa: would you share cat /proc/version with us? |
| 13:46.53 | Gnea | abrotman: in due time :) |
| 13:46.55 | liable | fisrado: default is 2.4 in sarge, boot with linux26 option and see if it helps |
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| 13:47.23 | chrysopa | tralala, Linux version 2.6.15-1-686 (Debian 2.6.15-8) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060212 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-9)) #2 Mon Mar 6 15:27:08 UTC 2006 |
| 13:47.27 | nerdpaulista | hi |
| 13:47.29 | blaisemargherito | hi |
| 13:47.32 | fisrado | oopps ... isntall24 worked |
| 13:47.36 | liable | fisrado: although a few people seem to have this problem, i havent ever really heard a solution for it :( |
| 13:47.42 | tralala | creyon: running sid? |
| 13:47.42 | abrotman | Gnea: when you are DPL ? |
| 13:47.45 | Gnea | chrysopa: do you have the iproute package installed? |
| 13:47.56 | tralala | creyon: ops, tab misfire, sorry |
| 13:47.59 | tralala | chrysopa: running sid? |
| 13:48.17 | chrysopa | Gnea, not |
| 13:48.19 | fisrado | liable, booting with install24 worked ... i had not tried that option |
| 13:48.20 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah right |
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| 13:48.27 | chrysopa | tralala, not sid, etch |
| 13:48.28 | blaise__ | hi |
| 13:48.32 | liable | fisrado: so you have the etch installer? |
| 13:48.42 | Gnea | chrysopa: do you get any results from this command: ifconfig lo ? |
| 13:48.44 | abrotman | Gnea: use the big stick! |
| 13:49.04 | chrysopa | Gnea, lo: error fetching interface information: Device not found |
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| 13:49.10 | blaise__ | i was wondering which is the best way to install debian? I have a 04 imac |
| 13:49.16 | fisrado | yup |
| 13:49.17 | Gnea | nerdpaulista: have you seen this error before that chrysopa has? |
| 13:49.24 | liable | chrysopa: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 13:49.30 | abrotman | they have model years now ? |
| 13:49.38 | Gnea | liable: he already stated it's a stock |
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| 13:49.48 | chrysopa | liable, no, this is the oficial image from debian testing |
| 13:49.49 | liable | Gnea: excuse me |
| 13:49.57 | Gnea | liable: did you fart? :) |
| 13:50.00 | chrysopa | I never see this error |
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| 13:50.10 | dli | chrysopa, still want to double check, "uname -a" |
| 13:50.31 | chrysopa | I cant make up my lo, this is a missconfiguration in any package |
| 13:50.48 | E-bola | If my pc dont have any temperature probes |
| 13:50.51 | chrysopa | but i dont know what package maybe |
| 13:50.52 | asg | chrysopa: paste /etc/network/interfaces in the paster (/msg dpkg paster) |
| 13:50.54 | E-bola | how can it tell the kernel its too hot? |
| 13:50.59 | E-bola | Message from syslogd@debian at Sat May 13 15:50:03 2006 ... |
| 13:50.59 | E-bola | debian kernel: CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 13:51.13 | abrotman | E-bola: it must have one somewhere |
| 13:51.18 | abrotman | E-bola: what cpu ? |
| 13:51.24 | E-bola | P4 1.7ghz |
| 13:51.33 | chrysopa | paste /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:51.34 | E-bola | lm-sensors didnt find anything when scanning, its a 2.6.8 kernel |
| 13:51.43 | Gnea | E-bola: what motherboard is that? |
| 13:51.46 | E-bola | And by goolging the model, dell dimension 8200 |
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| 13:51.52 | E-bola | it seems it doesnt have any temperature probes |
| 13:52.01 | E-bola | gnea: i only know its a dimension 8200 |
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| 13:52.14 | Gnea | E-bola: did you check the linux laptop page? |
| 13:52.16 | Gnea | !laptop |
| 13:52.16 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 13:52.21 | E-bola | gnea: its not a laptop |
| 13:52.31 | Gnea | E-bola: ack, sorry |
| 13:52.31 | tralala | does w3m support non-latin charsets? |
| 13:52.44 | tralala | I couldn't find much in the manual or the web |
| 13:52.52 | abrotman | E-bola: what CPU ?? |
| 13:53.05 | splattnik | how much info will debian spit out when setting VERBOSE to no in /etc/default/rcS? |
| 13:53.07 | liable | chrysopa: ifconfig lo up |
| 13:53.08 | Gnea | E-bola: http://octavia.zoology.washington.edu/Debian/DebianDimension8200.html |
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| 13:53.21 | xomhau | hi all |
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| 13:53.30 | xomhau | what package for : checking for QT meta-object compiler... no |
| 13:53.31 | blaise__ | how do I upload debian on a Imac w/ a G4 processor? |
| 13:53.31 | dman | hello, i'd like to change my system to run as a headless system (w/o video card and keyboard), does my debian install any updates before doing that? |
| 13:53.47 | chrysopa | liable, lo: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device |
| 13:53.49 | Gnea | E-bola: not a lot there, but could be more at dell's site |
| 13:54.11 | Gnea | abrotman: 06:51 < E-bola> P4 1.7ghz |
| 13:54.17 | E-bola | yep i saw that one, it doesnt mention temperatures though |
| 13:54.18 | tralala | chrysopa: this sounds like a kernel bug to me |
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| 13:54.40 | abrotman | iirc .. p4 has the cpu temp thing built into the cpu |
| 13:54.40 | rusher | hello |
| 13:54.41 | chrysopa | tralala, but I dont make a kernel upgrade |
| 13:54.51 | E-bola | abrotman: yes it must have, u can also see temperature in bios |
| 13:54.56 | Gnea | !imac |
| 13:54.56 | E-bola | but it seems very dell specific |
| 13:54.57 | dpkg | i heard imac is a... err...err *puh* i just know that there exists a Vibrator called iMac, or the name of hair removal cream in .uk, or http://debian-imac.sourceforge.net/ |
| 13:56.08 | tralala | chrysopa: does it do the same after a restart? |
| 13:56.10 | rusher | any mepis users |
| 13:56.17 | abrotman | in #mepis probably |
| 13:56.26 | tralala | chrysopa: and do you have auto lo in your interfaces file? |
| 13:56.54 | Gnea | E-bola: did you run sensors-detect? |
| 13:57.07 | tralala | rusher: what makes you think there would be any <random-distro-users> in #debian? |
| 13:57.23 | rusher | lol debian is like christianity, there is a lot of flvors |
| 13:57.43 | E-bola | gnea: yep |
| 13:57.44 | chrysopa | tralala, I have auto lo, the problem is this error, I need to go, after I try more, Thanks for all |
| 13:57.44 | tralala | nope, it is not |
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| 13:57.52 | E-bola | only found some info on what sort of ram i have installed |
| 13:57.52 | tralala | there is only one debian |
| 13:57.54 | E-bola | no temperature sensors |
| 13:58.00 | Gnea | rusher: stop. |
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| 13:58.38 | Gnea | E-bola: okay, then it probably doesn't have any. did you uninstall everything related to lm-sensors? |
| 13:58.50 | Ronin | rusher: and a specific channel for each of them too |
| 13:58.59 | asg | rusher: #mepis is over there -----------> |
| 13:59.10 | Gnea | rusher: debian is hardly a religion. |
| 13:59.23 | rusher | it was an example, not a fact |
| 13:59.28 | rusher | apples and oranges |
| 13:59.30 | Gnea | very well. |
| 13:59.33 | Johqn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.35 | E-bola | gnea: uninstall? No why would i do that? |
| 13:59.43 | Johqn | dsl ;) |
| 13:59.57 | Gnea | E-bola: because it's useless? |
| 13:59.58 | E-bola | it seems though, this dell with the 2.6.8 kernel have a bug related to acpi |
| 14:00.03 | E-bola | kacpi eats all the cpu atm |
| 14:00.12 | E-bola | gnea: well i just seems to ahve found out |
| 14:00.16 | Gnea | so disable acpi at boot-time |
| 14:00.37 | E-bola | whats the parameter again? |
| 14:00.38 | E-bola | noascpi? |
| 14:00.48 | asg | E-bola: acpi=off |
| 14:01.02 | E-bola | thanks |
| 14:01.03 | asg | E-bola: often combined with noapic and nolapic |
| 14:01.16 | E-bola | ahh right, the noapic was what i was thinking about |
| 14:01.46 | E-bola | wont turning acpi off, mean it cant shutdown properly? |
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| 14:01.53 | E-bola | like it does the "you can now power off" thing |
| 14:01.56 | E-bola | instaid of actualy killing power |
| 14:02.30 | liable | E-bola: yes, that does happen |
| 14:02.45 | E-bola | hmmm, i tihnk ile prefer to downgrade to the 2.4 branch then |
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| 14:04.28 | Gnea | E-bola: try the kernel switches first, that's what they're there for |
| 14:04.53 | E-bola | Gnea: why? I cant accept not having working power manedgement |
| 14:05.03 | E-bola | I rather wanna try a new 2.6 kernel |
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| 14:05.16 | E-bola | What way woudl u guys recomend if i the newest kernel image for debian sarge |
| 14:05.23 | E-bola | just installing one from unstable? |
| 14:05.30 | splattnik | test |
| 14:05.35 | liable | wont work |
| 14:05.55 | E-bola | why wouldnt it work? |
| 14:05.57 | E-bola | ive done it before |
| 14:06.07 | liable | E-bola: mkinitrd shits |
| 14:06.23 | E-bola | liable: well if i upgrade as needed? |
| 14:06.29 | Gnea | E-bola: it won't make a difference, you'll need to use the kernel flags in order to find out for sure |
| 14:06.44 | Gnea | E-bola: stock kernels are compiled with the same configurations, more or less |
| 14:06.59 | E-bola | gnea: sure but this is a bug in the 2.6 bracnh acording to posts found on google |
| 14:07.03 | E-bola | so it mgiht be fixed in newer versions |
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| 14:07.19 | liable | E-bola: i would rather compile one without the need for initrd than try and install a sid one. |
| 14:07.25 | Gnea | E-bola: okay, so snag 2.6.16 |
| 14:07.46 | E-bola | Gnea: ok, what aproach would u take in getting 2.6.16? |
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| 14:07.51 | E-bola | if i prefer not to compile myself |
| 14:07.56 | salah | is there any application which can help me rip sound from a vcd or camera device? |
| 14:08.05 | Gnea | E-bola: it's not in testing's apt? |
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| 14:08.35 | E-bola | gnea: it prolly is, buty as liable said, wont i get problems with initrd and stuff? |
| 14:08.57 | E-bola | Arent there "backported" kernel images for sarge? |
| 14:08.57 | Gnea | E-bola: stock kernels use initrd by default, again, that won't matter |
| 14:09.15 | Gnea | you don't want to use sarge debs for etch |
| 14:09.23 | liable | >.15 needs yaird or initramfs iirc |
| 14:09.28 | Gnea | should be able to find the one for sid |
| 14:09.32 | sebas007 | hey folks! anyone of you has fought building a debian-installer with custom kernel? |
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| 14:09.59 | E-bola | liable: is it a choice when compiling. Or is it a change in the kernel that requires it? |
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| 14:10.09 | prophile | E-bola? *The* ebola? Or just a lookalike ebola? |
| 14:10.43 | E-bola | I never use ebola, always with a "-", so prolly not |
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| 14:10.55 | sebas007 | I need to install sarge on a motherboard with VIA VT8251 controlor. ... |
| 14:11.01 | prophile | right |
| 14:11.06 | yohu123 | k. i removed the non-us testing links from sources.list and then ran apt-get update. it ran successfully without any errors. then i ran apt-get dist-upgrade which too ran successfully. but now when i run apt-get install build-essential, the following sequence occurs: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2538 |
| 14:11.23 | Gnea | sebas007: boot it like this -> boot: linux26 |
| 14:11.30 | liable | E-bola: its the debian kernel that needs it. |
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| 14:12.28 | `6og | i'm just looking at joining some Debian lists, but i have a question. what does "This list is not moderated; posting is allowed by anyone." mean. does this mena 'you can talk' or 'lots of spam' or both? |
| 14:12.29 | sebas007 | Gnea: not good, because it is kernel 2.6.8. and there is a need for a custom kernel to recognised the controlor. |
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| 14:12.59 | Gnea | sebas007: is it raid? |
| 14:13.00 | hjubal | re |
| 14:13.08 | splattnik | anyone knows about any tricks for rapdishare? i dont wont to use any xapp to download(ff in my case) and elinks dont have the proper support for downloading. was thinking if it was possible with wget ore something.. |
| 14:13.19 | liable | sebas007: is it supported in later kernels? |
| 14:13.22 | abrotman | yohu123: run dist-upgrade again ? |
| 14:13.32 | didas | hi. I am using debian with gnome. When I try to open a file with the command 'sudo bluefish filename.php' I get a message (bluefish:4212): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Does anybody know what this means? |
| 14:13.35 | Gnea | `6og: basically - if it's moderated, your post won't appear until someone reads it and says "okay, we'll post it" |
| 14:13.48 | p3rti | hey, what mail server the people recommend to make a virtual accounts with a SQL Database like mysql |
| 14:13.49 | Nikolay | yohu123: Just try to use aptitude for new package installing. Aptitude may try to resolve some dependenci issue. |
| 14:13.52 | `6og | Gnea: ok thanks |
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| 14:14.22 | sebas007 | Gnea: nope. it is on board raid but I do not count on that. |
| 14:14.31 | asg | didas: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 14:15.06 | Gnea | sebas007: install the base system on a drive that can be found, then upgrade the system to etch and install a newer kernel that supports it |
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| 14:15.18 | Gnea | sebas007: should be able to attach it then |
| 14:15.19 | asg | didas: though you are better off using saner permissions / group ownerships so as not to need to edit things as root |
| 14:15.28 | didas | asg: what do you mean? |
| 14:15.39 | sebas007 | liable: yes, it will be for what I have understood but for now you need to build a custom kernel with a patch. |
| 14:15.47 | Gnea | !run stuff as root |
| 14:15.47 | dpkg | "export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority" in your environment BEFORE you su, DO NOT use "su -" because that blows away your variable setting above. See also <sux>, <sshx>, <mit-magic-cookie>. |
| 14:15.57 | yohu123 | abrotman: it says that the following packages were held back : gcc |
| 14:16.20 | E-bola | When setting the default num in grub's menu config |
| 14:16.23 | asg | didas: you are editing a php file using bluefish presumably as root or www-data. Either way, making the files group owned by a webdev or dev group and making your user a part of that group is preferrable. |
| 14:16.25 | E-bola | does recovery kernels count too? |
| 14:16.39 | liable | sebas007: ok, what Gnea suggests is prolly the best way if you have a spare ide drive around |
| 14:16.39 | Gnea | E-bola: if it has an entry, it counts |
| 14:16.41 | sebas007 | Gnea: I did that, I on a ide drive, I built the kernel with the patch and the controlor and sata drives a recongised. |
| 14:16.44 | abrotman | yohu123: apt-get install gcc |
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| 14:16.49 | E-bola | gnea: thanks |
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| 14:16.52 | abrotman | yohu123: did you put it on hold ? |
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| 14:17.15 | yohu123 | nopes, i didnt do that on purpose. i dont even know how to |
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| 14:17.18 | yohu123 | then how to unhold it? |
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| 14:17.37 | asg | yohu123: /msg dpkg hold |
| 14:17.47 | yohu123 | i dont know if you read the entire pastebin abrotman. but i tried installing gcc and it gave those msgs |
| 14:18.19 | didas | asg: I see what you mean. It makes sence. Thx |
| 14:18.26 | Gnea | yohu123: try aptitude upgrade and aptitude install gcc-4.0 |
| 14:18.36 | asg | didas: you're welcome. /msg dpkg permissions for greycat's treatise on Unix permissions |
| 14:19.04 | abrotman | yohu123: do you need gcc ? |
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| 14:19.20 | abrotman | yohu123: might be uninstallable today |
| 14:19.28 | sebas007 | Gnea liable : I did not want to upgrade to etch because this machine will be a server. I have the new custom kernel 2.6.16 in sarge and I can see the sata drive. |
| 14:19.29 | abrotman | !why is blah not in testing |
| 14:19.30 | dpkg | blah is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=blah |
| 14:19.30 | tralala | yohu123: the message you had was that you already have the latest gcc |
| 14:19.32 | E-bola | At what point would u guys be worried about hdd temperatures? |
| 14:19.35 | yohu123 | yes, very badly. thats the thing im trying to get installed in the 1st place and came across all these problems |
| 14:19.36 | E-bola | Atm its 47 degrees |
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| 14:19.40 | E-bola | its a normal IDE disk |
| 14:19.50 | Zav | i'm having an issue w/ apache2 on debian...is this an ok place to ask it? i've been pounding my head against the wall for hours...getting kind of sore |
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| 14:19.55 | abrotman | yohu123: well .. you're going to have to work through the dependencies |
| 14:20.09 | asg | Zav: if it's debian related, then ask. If it isn't, we'll redirect you to other resources. |
| 14:20.35 | yohu123 | tralala: if its already the latest version and installed then why doesnt it install build-essential |
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| 14:20.43 | sebas007 | Gnea: since, I will have to deal with other installation on the same model of motherboard I want to build the installer with a custom kernel :-) |
| 14:20.45 | Zav | ok, so PCRE is supposed to be part of Apache 2.0.54, which is what I've got installed... |
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| 14:21.29 | dman | hello, i'd like to change my system to run as a headless system (w/o video card and keyboard), does my debian install any updates before doing that? |
| 14:21.36 | Gnea | sebas007: right on, you should look into make-kpkg and howto build a boot image |
| 14:21.38 | Zav | however, it doesn't work...I'm trying to do a LocationMatch /(?!foo) (i.e. match any directory other than /foo), and it doesn't work |
| 14:21.42 | asg | Zav: you can verify that by creating a page with '<?phpinfo();?>' in it and it will tell you exactly which modules are installed. |
| 14:21.54 | tralala | yohu123: I really don't know. |
| 14:22.00 | primax | Some Pole is here |
| 14:22.03 | asg | !pl |
| 14:22.04 | dpkg | pl is probably sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 14:22.05 | asg | primax: ^^ |
| 14:22.19 | primax | sorry |
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| 14:22.56 | asg | Zav: disregard my PHP stuff |
| 14:23.10 | tralala | yohu123: did you know that testing is intended for testers who would discover problems and report them? |
| 14:23.18 | Zav | asg: right, i'm not actually using php |
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| 14:23.48 | asg | Zav: yeah, don't know what I was thinking there at all |
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| 14:23.55 | hda2 | hi |
| 14:24.04 | asg | !fsck /dev/hda2 |
| 14:24.05 | dpkg | e2fsck /dev//dev/hda2 : warning! filesystem contains idiots! |
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| 14:24.21 | sebas007 | Gnea: I have looked into this. I learned a lot in the last week. I'm very happy about this! I was able to build a debian installer with a custom kernel but I get a kernel panic... |
| 14:24.22 | Zav | the reason i came here is that it is just the standard debian apache2 package |
| 14:24.32 | asg | o/~ badblocks badblocks, what they gonna do ... o/~ |
| 14:24.39 | Zav | i'm trying to avoid recompiling it myself |
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| 14:24.51 | Gnea | sebas007: best to test the kernel before throwing it in an installer |
| 14:24.54 | asg | Zav: you might check the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/apache2* |
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| 14:25.24 | Zav | asg: thanks, i will |
| 14:26.01 | asg | Zav: also, do you get an error that LocationMatch isn't recognized or just that the regex doesn't match |
| 14:26.11 | Zav | no, no error |
| 14:26.43 | sebas007 | Gnea: the kernel boot ok, on the ide drive |
| 14:26.49 | Zav | asg: just doesn't match. If I do LocationMatch /foo, it matches, but that's the opposite of what I want |
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| 14:27.18 | Gnea | sebas007: do you have a digital camera? |
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| 14:28.10 | asg | Zav: oh, okay. |
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| 14:28.28 | dman | im stuck with a (probably silly) mount question. i cant seem to be able to create any directories in a root mounted drive |
| 14:28.34 | Zav | asg: nothing significant in /usr/share/doc/apache2 |
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| 14:28.49 | Gnea | dman: did it get fscked? |
| 14:28.55 | Zav | guess i'll go bother some apache people |
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| 14:29.07 | babyju | Flash for firefox? Should I use the swfdec-plugin from the repos for mozilla? |
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| 14:29.31 | bkudria | against which package should i file a bug if my nvidia drivers simply do not accelerate? |
| 14:29.40 | tralala | dman: would you paste the output of 'mount' and the output of the 'mkdir' that doesn't work? |
| 14:29.41 | dman | Gnea, easier, its got to with access rights, cant seem to create any dirs on the mount (mounted by root) |
| 14:29.45 | abrotman | bkudria: probably the bkudria package |
| 14:29.50 | JasonX | Anyone know how I can control xine with a joystick (tried #xine, google etc, any www to point me in right direction appreciated) |
| 14:29.50 | liable | sebas007: if it boots ok on the ide but not the sata, check to make sure its built in, not a module for the sata driver |
| 14:29.52 | dman | tralala, ok |
| 14:29.53 | sebas007 | Gnea: yes... I do. |
| 14:30.03 | bkudria | abrotman: error: that package is non-existant...help! |
| 14:30.11 | tralala | dman: not in the channel if it is more than 3 lines |
| 14:30.13 | abrotman | bkudria: i'm sorry .. were you talking to me? :) |
| 14:30.18 | Gnea | dman: is it mounted read-only? |
| 14:30.19 | bkudria | abrotman: no, seriosly...i tried everything it has to be a bug |
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| 14:30.32 | abrotman | bkudria: did you try the nvidia one-liner? |
| 14:30.35 | Gnea | sebas007: you should take a picture of the screen when it panics and post the picture someplace |
| 14:30.36 | streuner | bkudria: nvidia-glx installed? |
| 14:30.38 | abrotman | bkudria: which version of X ? |
| 14:30.43 | bkudria | abrotman: many times |
| 14:30.49 | sebas007 | liable: the problem is the d-i does not even see the controlor of SATA. |
| 14:30.57 | bkudria | streuner: yes |
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| 14:31.03 | bkudria | abrotman: sid latest |
| 14:31.04 | asg | sebas007: /msg dpkg sata |
| 14:31.04 | dman | tralala,Gnea: fstab:/dev/hdb /home/tlx/bittorrent ext2 defaults 0 1 |
| 14:31.10 | abrotman | bkudria: i think it's a known issue |
| 14:31.22 | liable | sebas007: yes i realise that, i thought we were talking about your patched kernel? |
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| 14:31.32 | Gnea | dman: you can't mount a whole disk, you have to use a partition |
| 14:31.33 | bkudria | abrotman: oh? really? what bug #? |
| 14:31.35 | tralala | dman: and you can't write there as an user? |
| 14:31.47 | dman | tralala, as root |
| 14:31.51 | abrotman | bkudria: not sure .. i don't use nvidia .. check the bts for the nvidia-glx source package ... |
| 14:31.58 | tralala | oh, I didn't notice the hdb part at all |
| 14:32.00 | streuner | bkudria: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 14:32.04 | abrotman | bkudria: or check the xserver-xorg |
| 14:32.06 | dman | Gnea, seems to mount ok |
| 14:32.20 | Gnea | dman: but it's wrong. |
| 14:32.28 | Gnea | it doesn't mount ok |
| 14:32.29 | bkudria | abrotman: 2.3.6-7 |
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| 14:32.38 | Gnea | you have to use /dev/hdb1 or something |
| 14:32.43 | marco13185 | for some reason, the axis of scrolling on the mouse is ackward. When I scroll up and down I move side to side. |
| 14:32.49 | Gnea | because.... that's how it works. |
| 14:32.53 | streuner | bkudria: what does BTS say about (nvidia-glx)? |
| 14:32.54 | dman | tralala,Gnea: mkdir: cannot create directory `hold': Permission denied |
| 14:33.06 | bkudria | streuner: looking |
| 14:33.07 | Gnea | dman: thank you. |
| 14:33.08 | tralala | dman: and be aware of riaa and mpaa |
| 14:33.18 | Gnea | dman: you've just proven me right |
| 14:33.23 | dman | Gnea, i should mount /dev/hdb1? |
| 14:33.26 | bkudria | abrotman: do i dop something special to check the bts for a source packages vs a regular package? |
| 14:33.32 | streuner | bkudria: there are a bunch of cards which aren't supported by nvidia-glx... |
| 14:33.36 | marco13185 | for some reason, the axis of scrolling on the mouse is ackward. When I scroll up and down I move side to side. |
| 14:33.37 | bkudria | abrotman: of just type in nvidia-glx? |
| 14:33.45 | sebas007 | Gnea: the message I get from the custom kernel on the d-i is the following: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknnow-block(1,0) |
| 14:33.48 | abrotman | bkudria: should be bugs.debian.org/<package> |
| 14:33.52 | bkudria | streuner: mine is...i have an geforce 6600gt |
| 14:33.54 | Gnea | dman: be sure to umount it forst |
| 14:33.57 | tralala | dman: do you want how to make partitions and filesystems? |
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| 14:34.08 | bkudria | abrotman: thanks |
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| 14:34.11 | tralala | s/want/know/ |
| 14:34.48 | dman | tralala, the drive has one partition, and ext2 as filesystem |
| 14:34.53 | streuner | bkudria: zless /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz |
| 14:35.04 | sebas007 | Gnea liable it is a little documentation of my experience :-) http://wiki.koumbit.net/DebianInstallerSurMesure |
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| 14:35.24 | dman | Gnea, unmounted |
| 14:35.51 | Gnea | dman: change the fstab entry, and mount again |
| 14:35.59 | bkudria | streuner: it *is* supported...according to that, the dev id is 0x00F1 |
| 14:36.02 | streuner | bkudria: the card is supported |
| 14:36.07 | bkudria | streuner: plus, it worked before |
| 14:36.12 | bkudria | streuner: i know! |
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| 14:36.17 | laracroft | # Appears as ANNA |
| 14:36.33 | zinx | # Appears as XENO |
| 14:36.47 | streuner | bkudria: did you choose 'nvidia' to configure or 'nv'? |
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| 14:37.21 | liable | streuner: you an op on oftc? |
| 14:37.35 | streuner | liable: no, why? |
| 14:37.50 | liable | streuner: you set /topic? |
| 14:37.54 | dman | Gnea:mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1 |
| 14:38.08 | streuner | liable: /topicprotection is off there... |
| 14:38.13 | liable | oh :) |
| 14:38.32 | bkudria | streuner: using the nvidia driver...and glxinfo ssys direct rendering enabled |
| 14:38.38 | tralala | dman: so, once again do you know how to make partitions and filesystems? |
| 14:39.00 | bkudria | abrotman: maybe #366910? how do i check my kernel module version? because i compiled my own... |
| 14:39.12 | abrotman | !dbugs 366910 |
| 14:39.15 | dpkg | #366910:I[nvidia-glx] Inconsistent && broken installation of nvidia-kernel-... and nvidia-glx possible; Fri, 12 May 2006 02:03:02 UTC |
| 14:40.16 | streuner | bkudria: its not helpful if you using your own kernel, just install an official one and try again |
| 14:40.32 | bkudria | abrotman: but, i can load the modules fine, and everything looks rosy, but no accel |
| 14:40.45 | bkudria | streuner: i *do* use the stock kernel |
| 14:40.47 | abrotman | i thinkt that means the nvidia driver verision .. but i'm not sure |
| 14:40.52 | dman | tralala, thought i did.. created an ext2 filesystem on the drive this morning, did not make any partition (probably was only 1 on disk) |
| 14:40.55 | abrotman | yay for not owning nvidia stuff! |
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| 14:41.32 | dman | tralala, this is related to the permision issue im having? |
| 14:41.37 | tralala | dman: man fdisk; man mke2fs |
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| 14:42.27 | tralala | dman: as Gnea said you can't use the whole disk, you have to have a partition. So create one, create a filesystem on it and configure your fstab properly. It will work as a charm. |
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| 14:43.31 | bkudria | abrotman: i guess i'll try another compile cycle :) |
| 14:44.00 | dman | ok, tralala. i'll check it out |
| 14:44.23 | abrotman | bkudria: or ask #nvidia if they have any bright ideas |
| 14:44.33 | sebas007 | Gnea liable: did I lost you in my french documentation? |
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| 14:44.54 | bkudria | abrotman: i did. they were all stumped |
| 14:45.23 | abrotman | oh |
| 14:46.03 | liable | sebas007: sorry, i am half comatose and too lazy too read it :( /me is off to bed soon |
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| 14:46.16 | HyperDevil | hi :) |
| 14:46.27 | bkudria | hello |
| 14:46.37 | HyperDevil | anyone using open2300 here? |
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| 14:47.00 | liable | !anyone use open2300? |
| 14:47.00 | dpkg | No, no one uses open2300, not even the people who use it. |
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| 14:47.12 | HyperDevil | LOL |
| 14:47.21 | liable | :) |
| 14:47.29 | bkudria | that was cute, guys |
| 14:47.33 | E-bola | Can u do anything to control the order of drives in linux? I need /dev/sdac to become /dev/sda |
| 14:47.34 | streuner | bkudria: did you read zless /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz |
| 14:47.39 | streuner | ? |
| 14:47.39 | E-bola | sdc->sda even |
| 14:47.46 | bkudria | streuner: several times. my eyes bleed |
| 14:47.47 | HyperDevil | :) anyone want to see a cool debian powered website ? with weather information? |
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| 14:48.25 | streuner | bkudria: well, just file a bugreport then |
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| 14:49.20 | bkudria | streuner: after this last attempt, i will |
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| 14:50.42 | HyperDevil | aptitude purge apt-get |
| 14:50.43 | liable | since when is having broken dependancies not a bug? |
| 14:50.45 | HyperDevil | :) |
| 14:50.55 | sebas007 | liable: no trouble. I'm also trying to get help on the debian-boot channel. would it be a good place? |
| 14:51.24 | HyperDevil | rm -rf |
| 14:51.26 | HyperDevil | :P |
| 14:51.49 | liable | sebas007: if anyone knows that stuff, its those guys :) whether they can take time to help.. (its pretty much a dev channel) |
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| 14:52.14 | Saais | Someone want to remind my memory on how to use inet.d? |
| 14:52.27 | asg | Saais: inetd or init.d? |
| 14:52.32 | Saais | Er. |
| 14:52.34 | Saais | inetd* |
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| 14:52.52 | Saais | I just installed something, and I can only start it with inetd. |
| 14:52.53 | asg | Saais: man inetd.conf |
| 14:53.05 | liable | or update-inetd |
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| 14:53.17 | liable | Saais: whats wrong with that? |
| 14:53.22 | asg | Saais: if you want it to run standalone and it is capable, check /etc/defaults/<pkg> to change it |
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| 14:53.38 | Saais | asg, its not been installed by apt-get. |
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| 14:53.43 | Saais | Im installing glFTPd. |
| 14:53.50 | asg | Saais: oh, then read the inetd.conf manpage |
| 14:54.05 | Saais | root@sakai:/jail/glftpd/bin# man inetd.conf |
| 14:54.05 | Saais | No manual entry for inetd.conf |
| 14:54.06 | Saais | :p |
| 14:54.11 | liable | Saais: does it come with an init script? |
| 14:54.18 | Saais | liable, i belive so |
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| 14:54.54 | Saais | hmm |
| 14:54.54 | liable | Saais: so put it in the right spot and run update-rc.d (if you want it started as a stand alone daemon) |
| 14:54.59 | asg | Saais: it's in the netkit-inetd package |
| 14:55.21 | kimo | Hi, I'm after generating millions of reports written in *Arabic*. The application needs good unicode support and be high performance. I'm not sure how to proceed. I thought about perl/python, OOo scripting, KDE dcop .., any suggestions/recommendations |
| 14:55.31 | sebas007 | liable: I see, other folks are falling there as well... I talking with someone that has a similar problem... |
| 14:55.53 | asg | kimo: so, the NSA is now coming to #debian for translation support? |
| 14:56.02 | liable | sebas007: with what bit? |
| 14:56.16 | liable | !beer asg |
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| 14:56.23 | kimo | asg: NSA! |
| 14:56.24 | sebas007 | liable: kernel-wedge... now |
| 14:56.43 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 14:57.00 | HyperDevil | hi :) |
| 14:57.01 | Saais | well, its already in the inetd.conf. |
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| 14:57.30 | mynullvoid | why is that I am seeing alot of "ast message repeated 4 times" in my mail.err file for my postfix? |
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| 14:58.17 | Gathond | mynullvoid: my guess would be that whatever error precided that line happened 5 times, not just one:) |
| 14:58.22 | asg | mynullvoid: consecutive errors are aggregated to reduce clutter. Look at the error before. |
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| 14:59.23 | liable | asg: i hope you realise all your calls will be monitored from now on! :P |
| 14:59.47 | asg | liable: from now on? They've been monitoring us for a while |
| 14:59.48 | mynullvoid | May 12 13:47:08 mail courierpop3login: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:219.95.34.213] |
| 15:00.05 | asg | mynullvoid: then someone is failing to login to courier-pop3 |
| 15:00.05 | liable | asg: us? |
| 15:00.09 | asg | liable: yes |
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| 15:00.13 | mynullvoid | asg: this is the line prior of the message repeated: May 12 13:47:08 mail courierpop3login: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:219.95.34.213] |
| 15:00.15 | asg | liable: and probably everywhere else |
| 15:00.29 | asg | mynullvoid: is 219.95.34.213 one of your machines? |
| 15:00.35 | mynullvoid | asg: no |
| 15:01.08 | asg | mynullvoid: then someone in Kuala Lumpur is trying to crack your pop3 account |
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| 15:01.37 | asg | mynullvoid: probably a standard dictionary attack. Just firewall the bastard off. |
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| 15:02.07 | faelnor | hello everyone, where should I ask my newbie (but non-rtfm answered) questions |
| 15:02.09 | mynullvoid | asg: thanks man ;) |
| 15:02.16 | asg | mynullvoid: you're welcome |
| 15:02.28 | liable | your |
| 15:02.32 | asg | faelnor: here is as good a place as any. We still might tell you to rtfm though |
| 15:02.39 | faelnor | okay thanks asg |
| 15:02.48 | mynullvoid | asg: I also tired of these chinese, taiwan and korea attacker to my servers |
| 15:02.48 | asg | liable: you're is a contraction of you are |
| 15:02.52 | faelnor | I'd like to change the default color for terminals in debian |
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| 15:02.56 | asg | mynullvoid: yes, you'll get plenty of those |
| 15:03.10 | faelnor | (background color) |
| 15:03.12 | mynullvoid | asg: I am using pam_abl -> what you think of this bro |
| 15:03.15 | faelnor | white is ugly |
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| 15:03.19 | asg | faelnor: most use the standard -bg <color> |
| 15:03.23 | abrotman | faelnor: in X or what? |
| 15:03.32 | faelnor | yes abrotman sorry |
| 15:03.42 | faelnor | asg: I know but I'd prefer not to |
| 15:03.43 | blubbi | cool, my epson stylus 760 is working :)) |
| 15:03.54 | abrotman | faelnor: for xterm or gnome-terminal or something else? |
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| 15:04.09 | faelnor | abrotman: aterm, xterm, rxvt and kterm |
| 15:04.16 | faelnor | all 4 |
| 15:04.18 | asg | mynullvoid: if it works for you, that's fine. I'm not familiar with it personally. |
| 15:04.38 | abrotman | faelnor: you'd have to read the man page for each one ... |
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| 15:04.48 | michigan | Hi everyone. I have a 32-bit chroot running on AMD64 and the internet isn't working on it. It worked the other day when I installed it, but when I boot it up today it doesn't : ( |
| 15:05.11 | abrotman | faelnor: like xterm .. xterm -bg <color> -fg <color> |
| 15:05.18 | faelnor | abrotman: okay so that's as I expect... not as simple as defining a global variable or something. thanks |
| 15:05.26 | faelnor | yes I know the different syntaxes |
| 15:05.27 | asg | faelnor: you might try using ~/.Xdefaults to set resources |
| 15:05.44 | abrotman | faelnor: well .. it might be .. if you read the man page for xterm .. it might mention a global file |
| 15:06.12 | michigan | Hi everyone. I have a 32-bit chroot running on AMD64 and the internet isn't working on it. It worked the other day when I installed it, but when I boot it up today it doesn't : ( |
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| 15:06.39 | faelnor | kay thanks for the tip on Xdefaults |
| 15:06.39 | michigan | haha ; ) |
| 15:06.45 | faelnor | and I'll reread through man xterm |
| 15:06.59 | faelnor | I may post again here if I find a solution |
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| 15:07.44 | marco13185 | for some reason, the axis of scrolling on the mouse is ackward. When I scroll up and down I move side to side. |
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| 15:08.09 | marco13185 | well actually, it does work up and down too, but it's super slow and it only scrolls a bit if a scroll a lot |
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| 15:09.23 | Virom | hi anyone recognize this eervice rpcbind which listens to port 111 ? |
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| 15:09.57 | MrLaminar | hi everyone |
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| 15:10.03 | Virom | anyone ? |
| 15:10.17 | justfriends | hi |
| 15:10.25 | MrLaminar | i have a quick DNS question |
| 15:10.27 | asg | michigan: you might ask #debian-amd64 if nobody here knows |
| 15:10.29 | Virom | anyone can tell me what service is this (rpcbind) which listens to port 111 ? |
| 15:10.37 | michigan | asg, okay, thank you. : ) |
| 15:10.38 | asg | Virom: the portmapper |
| 15:10.49 | asg | MrLaminar: #dns might also be able to help if we can't |
| 15:10.53 | MrLaminar | i have a small lan, with three machines running debian. how can i get them to "see" each others with their configured names? |
| 15:10.54 | MrLaminar | aha |
| 15:10.56 | MrLaminar | ok |
| 15:10.58 | MrLaminar | thx |
| 15:11.13 | asg | MrLaminar: for 3 machines, I'd just use host files myself (/etc/hosts) |
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| 15:11.45 | MrLaminar | for more than 3 machines? |
| 15:11.50 | Virom | asg: what does it do ? |
| 15:12.05 | MrLaminar | the problem is that 2 of the 3 machines are DHCP-configured |
| 15:12.08 | Virom | asg: is it essential or I just can uninstall it |
| 15:12.19 | asg | Virom: its an older and less secure form of RPC. It's used mostly with NIS/NFS. If you don't use those, you can remove it. |
| 15:12.39 | Virom | ok thanks |
| 15:13.05 | asg | MrLaminar: well, you can either use static dhcp mappings or look at a ddns solution |
| 15:13.50 | asg | MrLaminar: I think bind9 now supports dynamic dns but I'm not positive. |
| 15:14.09 | MrLaminar | so, would installing bind9 do the trick? or is it overkill? |
| 15:14.20 | blondie | overkill |
| 15:14.21 | asg | MrLaminar: probably overkill but it never hurts to learn |
| 15:14.27 | blondie | install dnsmasq |
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| 15:15.03 | jshriver | Greetings :) |
| 15:15.20 | faelnor | asg abrotman I found my answer very easily :/ :/ |
| 15:15.28 | asg | faelnor: cool |
| 15:15.31 | jshriver | Anyone know if you can use standard devices in an Alpha station? memory, IDE HD, and PCI? assuming linux has the drivers |
| 15:15.41 | faelnor | just put *background: black at the beginning of .Xresources |
| 15:16.08 | faelnor | thanks for the pointer on ~/.Xsomething |
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| 15:16.30 | MrLaminar | blondie, thanks for dnsmasq. do i have to install this on all machines, or only on one? |
| 15:17.22 | blondie | on one, and then tell the others to use it as the dns server |
| 15:17.49 | blondie | otherwise if it's only 3 machines you could just edit hosts |
| 15:17.50 | MrLaminar | hm hm hm... of course if this machine is down, then byebye dns :( |
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| 15:17.53 | MrLaminar | yeah, ok |
| 15:17.55 | blondie | yes |
| 15:17.56 | MrLaminar | thanks |
| 15:18.12 | blondie | dnsmasq uses the hosts file on the machine it's running on |
| 15:18.43 | MrLaminar | i guess this could also be taken care of by the adsl router? |
| 15:18.43 | blondie | perhaps |
| 15:18.43 | zebalin4 | My .xsession-errors file is 104MB !! Most with: (Gecko:8125): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed. What's going on. Everything seems fine. |
| 15:18.44 | blondie | actually, it'll only work if the machines get the same IP each time |
| 15:18.45 | MrLaminar | too bad my adsl router is a dumbed down POS :) |
| 15:18.53 | blondie | or the dhcp server talks to the dns server |
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| 15:19.27 | E-bola | !tell E-bola gpg |
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| 15:19.57 | MrLaminar | thanks ! |
| 15:19.59 | MrLaminar | bye now |
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| 15:22.29 | srtg | anyone with an ipod nano could tell me where should I copy my mp3 files after it has been mounted at /mnt/ipod ? |
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| 15:23.10 | johannes | i'm trying to get gnomba working, but if i double click on a pc to see the shares it asks me for a username and password, but wen i try to login with anonymous or guest it doesnt work, a username which has a account on the windows pc doesnt work, too, any ideas? |
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| 15:23.32 | Virom | is it a good idea to close this port ipp? does my printer need it for local jobs ? |
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| 15:23.57 | Gathond | Virom: probably depends on how your applications print locally |
| 15:24.21 | Virom | hmm |
| 15:24.23 | lindenl1 | Anyone here using the debian amarok 1.4beta binaries having success with musicbrainz id3 ag fill in ? |
| 15:24.31 | Gathond | Virom: I dont think it is a requirement for the printer to work to listen at a network port as such, but your setup might require it |
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| 15:24.56 | Virom | but i want to close it for security |
| 15:25.24 | netman1 | Hi All. Very basic question: what's the difference between 'printenv' and 'set', besides the number of environment variables both print out? |
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| 15:26.49 | dan_lou | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.08 | netman1 | johannes: how about when you use <workgroupname or domainname>/<username> ? |
| 15:27.22 | stew | dan_lou: please go away |
| 15:27.28 | Gnea | !troll dan_lou |
| 15:27.36 | dan_lou | im new to this |
| 15:27.55 | Gnea | dan_lou: and you're about to find it old, quick. |
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| 15:28.17 | dan_lou | why am i |
| 15:28.19 | stew | dan_lou: unless you have a debian related quistion, please move on |
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| 15:28.39 | Gnea | dan_lou: you are in the wrong place. |
| 15:28.40 | Gnea | !warez |
| 15:28.41 | dpkg | [warez] what GNU/Linux people do not need to run their computers and talk about in mundane ubergeek parties. http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?id=275 or http://www.blerp.org/warez/ |
| 15:28.54 | netman1 | Gnea: he's gone. |
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| 15:29.21 | Gnea | netman1: lag. |
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| 15:31.31 | lexiyntax | srtg: Have you tried gtkpod? |
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| 15:32.45 | quiet | What filesystem would you guys recommend for a small-office fileserver, that will be servng... about 80% word/excel documents and FileMaker Pro databases?? ext3 or xfs? |
| 15:33.33 | netman1 | quiet: ext3, more mature, although the difference is minimal. |
| 15:33.46 | yohu123 | hey thanx guys for all your help. i finally got gcc and the usr/include libs installed successfully |
| 15:34.07 | yohu123 | using the testing packages though |
| 15:34.25 | quiet | okay.... i was planning on ext3... i had just read that article recently on debian-administration about the fs comparisons.. and xfs seemed to beat most everything.. but i don't have any experience with it. |
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| 15:35.32 | netman1 | quiet: it's also debian's default. Unless you exect major advantage in using xfs (ACL's) I would use ext3. |
| 15:35.35 | muep | the tests don't tell everything |
| 15:35.41 | johannes | netman1, which username? i can access these shares using smb:// in an adress line without entering a username oder a password, so i dont understand why i have to type a username in gnomba |
| 15:35.53 | quiet | netman1, will do.. thanks. |
| 15:36.17 | dman | tralala, created hdb1 with a ext2 filesystem, still having the same problem |
| 15:36.22 | muep | I think that in every test I see they seem to use quite low speed systems |
| 15:36.32 | muep | 500 MHz P3:s etc. |
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| 15:37.14 | muep | I have an impression that at least reiserfs suffers in that kind of environment |
| 15:37.24 | netman1 | johannes; a username that's defined on your windows system. Was just an (un)educated guess ;-) But you can use usernames and passwords, as far as I remember, ... |
| 15:37.45 | path_ | anyone knows if xgl for debian sid? |
| 15:37.54 | path_ | is available* |
| 15:38.06 | netman1 | johannes: something in the trend of "smb://domaind\username@password@systemname/sharename" |
| 15:38.26 | johannes | netman1, if i try a username and password which definitly exists on the windows system it doenst work, too |
| 15:38.31 | michigan | When I use dchroot, it executes the things that are in the path for my 64-bit system... for instance, dchroot -d firefox open up 64-bit firefox. How do I change that? |
| 15:38.49 | michigan | specifying the chroot doesn't help ... -c ia32 does the same thing |
| 15:38.57 | netman1 | johannes: what does your logging on the windows system tell you? |
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| 15:40.17 | michigan | probably because of -d huh |
| 15:40.48 | michigan | hmm apparently not |
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| 15:42.17 | Half-Left | debian-testing-i138-binary-15 dont boot, any idea? |
| 15:42.36 | Half-Left | i386* |
| 15:42.40 | path_ | check the md5 |
| 15:42.41 | trenka | Half-Left: wrong ganga |
| 15:43.11 | Half-Left | It will not boot from cd |
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| 15:43.49 | hazard__ | is there a way to increse the ram cache dedicated to network IO? |
| 15:43.58 | E-bola | yes |
| 15:44.00 | E-bola | inside /proc |
| 15:44.14 | hazard__ | I've gathered that much, but how...exactly? |
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| 15:44.56 | Half-Left | trenka, what binary number should I try? |
| 15:46.12 | trenka | 1 for the beginning |
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| 15:46.28 | Half-Left | whats the difference? |
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| 15:47.39 | pakal | hi! wich is the best way to manage sound on gnome? esd or ALSA? |
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| 15:48.13 | abrotman | alsa |
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| 15:51.17 | hazard__ | Gah! Why can't I seem to locate an answer for how to increse the network buffers? |
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| 15:52.40 | lexiyntax | hazard__: Have you checked /etc/sysctl.conf? |
| 15:52.55 | hazard__ | Probably, but I don't know what I'm looking for |
| 15:53.28 | hazard__ | Nope, I dunno. Its a file, with a buncha commented lines in it. |
| 15:53.53 | hazard__ | I'm pretty sure I can figure out how to set whatever-it-is I need to set, the problem is I don't know what to set to do what I want.... |
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| 15:54.02 | hazard__ | Nor what to look for. |
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| 15:55.16 | lexiyntax | hazard__: So what is it you are trying to do? |
| 15:55.49 | hazard__ | I'm trying to increse the amount of ram dedicated to buffering the network IO |
| 15:56.04 | lexiyntax | hazard__: Why? Are you sure that's the right solution? |
| 15:56.16 | hazard__ | Not really... |
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| 15:57.04 | hazard__ | I'm working on a bootable CD that will run mencoder in a dedicated way reading and writing to a NFS drive, but some of my machines don't seem to be able to get data fast enough to use full CPU for processing |
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| 15:58.11 | lexiyntax | Have you set the NFS block sizes to 8k in the mount options? |
| 15:58.24 | hazard__ | no... |
| 15:58.29 | hazard__ | what are they by default? |
| 15:59.07 | Bombo | isn't there a lame package in debian/sarge? |
| 15:59.08 | lexiyntax | hazard__: Read this- http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/performance.html |
| 15:59.22 | Bombo | $ apt-get install lame Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 15:59.40 | dman | how can i prevent root owning my mounts? eg, a user cannot create files on the mount |
| 15:59.45 | hazard__ | ...Why can I never find anything useful like that appears to be? Thanks. |
| 15:59.55 | hazard__ | you use -o uid={user} |
| 15:59.58 | hazard__ | (or something like that) |
| 16:00.30 | hazard__ | On a related note... |
| 16:00.34 | lexiyntax | hazard__: I never use NFS for anything but anonymous root-squashed read-only. If I need to manage users, I use samba. |
| 16:01.00 | abrotman | !tell Bombo about lame |
| 16:01.10 | dman | i saw that hazard__ , but it seems that on my home dir structure, that is also mounted by root, i can write files |
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| 16:01.51 | Bombo | !tell Bombo about marillat or rarewares |
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| 16:02.04 | jonkri | where do i set the $LC_* and $LANG variables? |
| 16:02.09 | Thug-N-Me | will i be able to burn cds without cdrdao ? |
| 16:02.20 | dman | !tell dman about mount |
| 16:02.47 | streuner | Thug-N-Me: why? |
| 16:03.19 | abrotman | Bombo: for future reference "/msg dpkg <blah>" works |
| 16:03.28 | Thug-N-Me | streuner what do you mean why ? wanst my question clear enough ? |
| 16:03.50 | streuner | Thug-N-Me: no |
| 16:03.53 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure locales .. i believe |
| 16:04.12 | streuner | Thug-N-Me: What's the reason why you don't want or can't use cdrdao? |
| 16:04.13 | Thug-N-Me | streuner will i be able or not ? does k3b need " cdrdao " to work properly ? |
| 16:04.30 | streuner | Thug-N-Me: better :-) |
| 16:04.43 | Thug-N-Me | streuner :) |
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| 16:04.52 | streuner | Thug-N-Me: well, k3b use for audio-cds cdrdao... |
| 16:05.03 | kimo | Hi, I am after 'domain splitting' with postfix & exchange. i.e. foo@domain.com on postfix, and bar@domain.com on Exchange. With Exchange on the Internet. Any guide/hint ? |
| 16:05.14 | Thug-N-Me | streuner ok then . thanks |
| 16:06.24 | fatal__ | kimo: set up quux.domain.com on postfix and set up forwardning for bar@domain.com to to bar@quux.domain.com |
| 16:07.10 | abrotman | it's not really related to debian .. sounds like an exchange question |
| 16:07.26 | kimo | I think a postfix question, but #postfix is asleep :) |
| 16:07.30 | fatal__ | more like a "how does DNS work"... |
| 16:07.54 | abrotman | kimo: not if Exchange is the internet facing SMTP server .. it's an exchange question |
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| 16:08.07 | kimo | fatal__: did u actually implement this b4 ? |
| 16:08.38 | kimo | abrotman: well, at least I care about the postfix part. The Winblows admin configures his crapchange |
| 16:08.56 | fatal__ | I've never implemented "b4". |
| 16:08.58 | fatal__ | !u |
| 16:08.58 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 16:09.15 | shogunx | fatal__ you want read about MX records in the BIND howto. |
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| 16:09.26 | abrotman | kimo: your part is easy afaict |
| 16:09.34 | fatal__ | shogunx: kimo |
| 16:09.58 | kimo | abrotman: not very postfix has to know which mailboxes to deliver locally, & which to deliver to another smtp server |
| 16:10.05 | kimo | not sure where do I set that |
| 16:10.27 | abrotman | kimo: yuou just said the exchange server was the external smtp server |
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| 16:10.56 | kimo | abrotman: yes, but people will be sending mail from postfix too, which has to be forwarded to the Exchange server for Internet delivery |
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| 16:11.23 | oberonc | I would like to create an initrd file with sshd server included (like described here : http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/11/msg00861.html) |
| 16:11.38 | oberonc | where can I find the netboot initrd file ? |
| 16:11.43 | fatal__ | kimo: google for postfix smart host to get postfix to relay all outgoing mail via the exchange server. |
| 16:11.43 | kimo | is the word "domain splitting" correct for this setup?? If there someother name, I can probably google it up |
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| 16:11.56 | kimo | fatal__: thnx |
| 16:12.05 | fatal__ | kimo: you can't split a domain, but it's suitable buzzword. |
| 16:12.18 | oberonc | "net install initrd file" |
| 16:12.20 | abrotman | but that's not what he wants |
| 16:12.20 | kimo | fatal__: http://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Split_Domain |
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| 16:14.37 | mooded | hey all.. i downloaded 2.6.16-16 from kernel.org and am trying to compile.. but i cant find devfs-option anywhere.. (wasnt it in pseudo-filesystems usually ? ) .. any hints ? |
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| 16:15.17 | abrotman | mooded: deprecated i think |
| 16:15.21 | CaT[tm] | kimo: configure the mx to forward mail for the users it does not 'handle' to the other server. that's if I udnerstand you right. |
| 16:15.42 | CaT[tm] | kimo: given the right software on the mx you can make it forward anything the mx does not have a mailbox for to the other server |
| 16:15.50 | mooded | abrotman, so only udev from now on ? |
| 16:16.05 | abrotman | i think so .. maybe ask #kernel |
| 16:16.15 | mooded | did so .. no response so far ;) |
| 16:16.19 | mooded | thanks anyway |
| 16:16.37 | Thug-N-Me | does anyone know how to burn 5 cds iso`s to dvd ? |
| 16:17.01 | CaT[tm] | thug: make an iso out of them. |
| 16:17.02 | dman | im stuck with a (probably silly) mount question. i cant seem to be able to create any directories in a root mounted drive |
| 16:17.05 | kimo | CaT[tm]: cool, how can I tell postfix that some accounts are to be delivered locally, while everything else to the 'smart host' ? |
| 16:17.18 | CaT[tm] | kimo: no idea. I use exim :) |
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| 16:17.28 | kimo | CaT[tm]: :) |
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| 16:17.49 | CaT[tm] | kimo: but I believe it handles virtual hosts so look up the docs for that. |
| 16:18.18 | moyix | does anyone know how to get udev to properly set up permissions on a USB device? When I plug my camera in, it creates /dev/bus/usb/001/00x, but fails to give it the appropriate group (camera). I have a line in /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libgphoto2.rules that seems to apply (USB PTP Class Camera) that specifies GROUP="camera", but it seems to have no effect |
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| 16:19.09 | CaT[tm] | kimo: anyhow, I snooze. good luck. |
| 16:19.22 | kimo | CaT[tm]: thnx |
| 16:21.05 | abrotman | kimo: i'm really not sure you can do what you're asking .. you should really ask #postfix |
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| 16:23.01 | kimo | abrotman: I understand. I'm sure it can be done (check the Zimbra wiki article I just posted). And yes, I am asking in postfix. They're just asleep :) |
| 16:23.15 | bmalee | kimo, you may want to look at transport_maps but I'm not sure. |
| 16:23.32 | kimo | bmalee: I am guessing that too . |
| 16:23.49 | kimo | and local_recepient_maps |
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| 16:24.47 | mustard_1 | whats the dpkg factoid for setting up xserver? |
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| 16:29.50 | angusmac | as in "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? |
| 16:30.37 | angusmac | (assuming you're using xorg and not xfree86 of course |
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| 16:31.45 | mustard_1 | angusmac I'm thinking more of a factoid from the bot dpkg concerning installing x-windows on netinstall |
| 16:32.12 | mustard_1 | angusmac I started with xserver-xorg |
| 16:32.29 | abrotman | !setup x |
| 16:32.29 | dpkg | hmm... set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 16:32.42 | mustard_1 | beautiful abrotman :) |
| 16:33.09 | two|face | is it possible to setup samba and kerberos without using a windows domain controller |
| 16:33.26 | abrotman | can i get a lobster? |
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| 16:33.39 | mustard_1 | heh..so I started with the last step first...brilliant of me :) |
| 16:34.17 | abrotman | mustard_1: in general .. apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 16:34.26 | abrotman | that factoid is out of date |
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| 16:35.01 | mustard_1 | abrotman yeah, I'm on dialup so I was hoping for something quicker, but no luck. :) |
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| 16:35.11 | abrotman | x-window-system-core :) |
| 16:36.03 | abrotman | mustard_1: is it sarge or etch/sid ? |
| 16:36.14 | mustard_1 | abrotman etch |
| 16:36.31 | abrotman | mustard_1: i mean .. you can just try getting xserver-xorg .. but who knows .. i'd go with -core |
| 16:36.43 | mustard_1 | abrotman I assume etch is 'testing' ? |
| 16:36.54 | abrotman | yep |
| 16:36.56 | abrotman | currently anyways |
| 16:36.59 | mustard_1 | k |
| 16:37.33 | mustard_1 | well I got xserver-xorg installed and tried startx and hoped :) |
| 16:37.59 | abrotman | npe |
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| 16:38.02 | dman | abrotman: im stuck with a (probably silly) mount question. i cant seem to be able to create any directories in a root mounted drive |
| 16:38.03 | mustard_1 | I'm heading for a fluxbox setup I think |
| 16:38.06 | abrotman | !find bin/startx etch |
| 16:38.15 | abrotman | dman: as root? |
| 16:38.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/startx' (2): (/usr/bin/startxfce4) in x11/xfce4-utils ;; (/usr/X11R6/bin/startx) in x11/xbase-clients. |
| 16:38.31 | dman | as normal user abrotman |
| 16:38.32 | abrotman | mustard_1: you'll need xbase-clients too |
| 16:38.44 | mustard_1 | abrotman k thanks |
| 16:38.52 | hellangel`linux | hey guys :) where was the gnome/xserver config again? (i got a new mouse now.. no more ps2 but usb) |
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| 16:39.14 | curado | Hi everyone.. |
| 16:39.18 | dman | i tried changing fstab with the user option, but does not seem to get it working for me |
| 16:39.19 | abrotman | dman: what kind of partition? |
| 16:39.25 | abrotman | !drxx hellangel`linux |
| 16:39.26 | dpkg | hellangel`linux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:39.35 | hellangel`linux | i mean the config file itself :) |
| 16:39.49 | curado | someone here work with fastt storage manager with debian? |
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| 16:40.31 | abrotman | hellangel`linux: xfree or xorg? |
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| 16:40.36 | hellangel`linux | xfree |
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| 16:40.40 | abrotman | dman: check the mountpoint prems |
| 16:40.41 | dman | abrotman, its a two hd system hda1+5 linux+swap in ext2, hdb1 in ext2 |
| 16:40.43 | abrotman | perms |
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| 16:40.52 | abrotman | hellangel`linux: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 16:40.57 | hellangel`linux | ahhh yeah thx mate |
| 16:41.17 | shogunx | happy debconf everybody |
| 16:41.21 | dman | abrotman, created as normal user, but after the mount, the directory shows root,root |
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| 16:43.01 | abrotman | dman: no .. ls -ld .. on the mountpoint |
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| 16:44.11 | sanmarcos | when I try to mount a nfs share I get mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused any ideas? |
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| 16:44.31 | shingara | hi |
| 16:44.34 | Miesco | Your install of PHP appears to be missing LDAP support. Please install LDAP support before using phpLDAPadmin. (Don't forget to restart your web server afterwards) |
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| 16:44.43 | xomhau | re hi |
| 16:44.43 | Miesco | How do I check if I have support for it? |
| 16:44.53 | shingara | You know a software for comment a PDF file inline ? |
| 16:44.58 | sanmarcos | Miesco: phpinfo() |
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| 16:45.08 | Angels2 | Miesco php -m |
| 16:45.16 | abrotman | Miesco: apt-cache search php ldap |
| 16:45.18 | xomhau | what the QT meta-object ? anyone |
| 16:45.19 | killerboy | hi |
| 16:45.28 | killerboy | i have a problem with ircii |
| 16:45.32 | streuner | sanmarcos: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say on the remote box? |
| 16:45.41 | killerboy | could anyone help me? |
| 16:45.50 | Miesco | Loaded modules: util_ldap |
| 16:46.07 | sanmarcos | streuner: 2.3.5-1 |
| 16:46.13 | abrotman | killerboy: apt-get install irssi-text! :) |
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| 16:46.22 | streuner | sanmarcos: we need the whole output |
| 16:46.24 | killerboy | :-) |
| 16:46.30 | goldenear | hi |
| 16:46.31 | sanmarcos | streuner: should I update to 2.3.6? |
| 16:46.38 | Miesco | php -m DOESN't have it |
| 16:46.39 | sanmarcos | streuner: my /etc/exports is ok |
| 16:46.46 | streuner | no, you should answer our questions |
| 16:46.47 | killerboy | but i would like to use irssi |
| 16:46.54 | dman | abrotman, drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 13 17:33 bittorrent/ (after mounting) |
| 16:47.03 | abrotman | might be a good reason |
| 16:47.27 | killerboy | there it is: output of /help isn't scrollable |
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| 16:48.04 | goldenear | is there any option for "apt-get remove" to remove all the unsed dependencies of the removed package ? |
| 16:48.19 | tower | Hello guys, thought you might be interested in some of the debconf talks |
| 16:48.21 | streuner | goldenear: /msg dpkg deborphan |
| 16:48.24 | abrotman | killerboy: apt-get install irssi-text if you want to use irssi |
| 16:48.26 | tower | We're streaming them live right now. |
| 16:48.35 | streuner | URL? |
| 16:48.41 | tower | http://video.debconf.org:8000/tower.ogg |
| 16:48.44 | heatsink | There's a package I want to install with apt-get. Apt-get says some packages need to be removed. Is there a command to show why the packages conflict? |
| 16:48.46 | abrotman | tower: no you're not |
| 16:48.59 | killerboy | for example, when i write /who * and /help, output od and i scroll upward it scrolls only part of help output (one which is currently presented on the screen) and all output of /who * |
| 16:49.00 | sanmarcos | streuner: im updating libc6 |
| 16:49.04 | tower | This talk is in Spanish, but there will be English ones later on.. |
| 16:49.11 | abrotman | tower: really .. you're not streaming |
| 16:49.14 | streuner | sanmarcos: why? |
| 16:49.24 | tower | We are having troubles, yes... to state it mildly. |
| 16:49.26 | streuner | sanmarcos: you haven't any reason yet |
| 16:49.33 | tower | BBut we hope to finish that as soon as possible |
| 16:49.38 | abrotman | tower: as in .. it's not there :) |
| 16:49.48 | killerboy | i know that irssi is good, but i would like to use irssi, (or try to use ;-) |
| 16:49.52 | kepht | goldenear: debfoster |
| 16:50.01 | sanmarcos | streuner: i dont have a reason not to |
| 16:50.07 | abrotman | nah .. i think he wants deborphan |
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| 16:50.12 | goldenear | streuner: deborphan doesn't feet my needs : I want to remove the unused dependencies of the package I remove only |
| 16:50.16 | sanmarcos | streuner: anyways, if it breaks then I can blame it on YOU! |
| 16:50.25 | sanmarcos | goldenear: make a script |
| 16:50.34 | streuner | s/can/can't/ ;-) |
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| 16:50.52 | kepht | abrotman, debfoster works best on packages |
| 16:51.09 | killerboy | is it a bug in ircii ? |
| 16:51.11 | Tallu | Is there a way to find out what all packages are installed on my box? And maybe even copy their configuration to a new install of debian |
| 16:51.13 | abrotman | kepht: read his question |
| 16:51.21 | sanmarcos | Tallu: dpkg -l |
| 16:51.25 | streuner | sanmarcos: imagine, you are a doctor, would you give something to your patient without knowing what wrong with his body? |
| 16:51.25 | sid | Tallu: dd |
| 16:51.31 | tower | abrotman: Sorry - restarted the ogg forwarder now |
| 16:51.35 | abrotman | yay |
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| 16:51.43 | Tallu | sanmarcos: thanks |
| 16:51.54 | sanmarcos | streuner: i dont care man, i just need this shit to be fixed, else i am eating popcorn for the rest of the month |
| 16:51.59 | Tallu | sid: hmm okay, what does that do? |
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| 16:52.12 | abrotman | tower: dunno .. i still can't get anyhting |
| 16:52.16 | abrotman | oh wait .. maybe now |
| 16:52.17 | dman | abrotman, in general how can i have a normal user write on a dev mounted by root (root mounts the home dir. structure, so...) |
| 16:52.18 | sid | Tallu: man dd |
| 16:52.19 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 16:52.19 | dpkg | tetrinet is probably multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 16:52.26 | Tallu | sid: okay. |
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| 16:52.44 | anarcat | GuL, spammer |
| 16:52.50 | abrotman | dman: change the perms on that mount point |
| 16:52.51 | streuner | sanmarcos: desktop or server? |
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| 16:52.58 | killerboy | Tallu: dd copies in file with some specials |
| 16:52.58 | abrotman | tower: it's realyl really unstable |
| 16:53.02 | sanmarcos | streuner: server |
| 16:53.09 | dman | abrotman, to w hat? |
| 16:53.15 | tower | abrotman: We know. The network here is f*ing useless. |
| 16:53.16 | streuner | sanmarcos: hm, why not using sarge/stable? |
| 16:53.31 | sanmarcos | streuner: we need php5 |
| 16:53.32 | abrotman | dman: chmod 777 on the mount point |
| 16:53.37 | abrotman | !backports |
| 16:53.37 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 16:53.38 | goldenear | sanmarcos: I can of course make a script, but I'm suprised there is not such an option already existing :/ |
| 16:53.41 | abrotman | tower: ah ok |
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| 16:53.49 | anarcat | could someone here explain to me why the "committed_AS" /proc/meminfo stat keeps on growing? |
| 16:53.51 | anarcat | Committed_AS: 117239892 kB |
| 16:54.07 | anarcat | i have a hard time believing that the server has committed 110GB of ram... |
| 16:54.42 | streuner | sanmarcos: so portmap is running well, you checked exports, what does showmout -e tell you? |
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| 16:55.16 | sanmarcos | streuner: my shares, exported to 192.168.1.*, which is allright |
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| 16:55.44 | chriskk | is there a way to do a harddrive install of debian for a laptop without a cd-rom drive? |
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| 16:56.04 | loppenland | Hi. How do I scroll in a console? No X, just the console; I need to see things that are farther up than it shows me. |
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| 16:56.12 | sanmarcos | loppenland: alt pg up pg down |
| 16:56.18 | abrotman | or ctrl-pgup |
| 16:56.23 | sepski | chriskk, boot on pxe/network or floppy or usb |
| 16:56.26 | abrotman | or shift-pgup .. i think it depends on your keyboard layout |
| 16:56.28 | salah | hi. how do I mount a cdrom? |
| 16:56.32 | vkat | loppenland: commando | less |
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| 16:56.37 | sanmarcos | !tell salah about mount |
| 16:56.38 | chriskk | no floppy nor usb drives :-( |
| 16:56.46 | marco13185 | how would I go about configuring a second monitor in xorg.conf? |
| 16:56.52 | sanmarcos | !tell salah about cdrom |
| 16:57.08 | vkat | loppenland: or | more |
| 16:57.14 | killerboy | salah: mount /mnt/cdrom |
| 16:57.32 | loppenland | okay, thank you everyone. It's Shift+ Page Up on mine. Thanks everyone. : ) |
| 16:57.34 | salah | killerboy: nope, not working |
| 16:57.42 | chriskk | sepski: how do you do a pxe/network install? |
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| 16:58.11 | killerboy | salah: and what is an error? |
| 16:58.15 | buffoon_ | + |
| 16:58.27 | marco13185 | how do I configure a second monitor in X? |
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| 16:58.45 | salah | killerboy: mount: can't find /mnt/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 16:58.48 | streuner | sanmarcos: rpcinfo -p |
| 16:59.10 | killerboy | salah: so what do you have in /etc/fstab? |
| 16:59.11 | sanmarcos | strankan: mountd nfs status nlockgr and portmapper running |
| 16:59.39 | streuner | sanmarcos: firewall? |
| 16:59.49 | sanmarcos | streuner: nope |
| 17:00.06 | sepski | chriskk, just like all other install methods you start by reading the installation manual http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual i think netboot is in section 4.6 |
| 17:00.36 | sanmarcos | streuner: how do I re-read my exports? |
| 17:00.45 | streuner | sanmarcos: so what did you change in the meantime, or didn't it work before too? |
| 17:01.06 | streuner | just mount nfs |
| 17:01.18 | killerboy | salah: you don't have good entries in /etc/fstab |
| 17:01.30 | sanmarcos | streuner: I cant pinpoint a specific event, is there any log files? |
| 17:01.32 | salah | killerboy, well I fixed the problem, I used: mount /media/cdrom0 |
| 17:01.43 | killerboy | ok |
| 17:02.09 | salah | thanks, wouldn't done it without your help :) |
| 17:02.21 | killerboy | ;-) |
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| 17:02.25 | sanmarcos | streuner: mounting shares from other clients in the server works |
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| 17:02.35 | sanmarcos | strankan: dont know why the server might be refusing connections |
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| 17:02.43 | salah | killerboy: which DVD player do you use for Debian? |
| 17:02.49 | killerboy | uuuh |
| 17:03.05 | killerboy | you think about video player? |
| 17:03.10 | salah | yeah |
| 17:03.15 | killerboy | i like mplayer and xine |
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| 17:03.27 | salah | ok |
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| 17:05.06 | sanmarcos | streuner: what is the default line for /etc/hosts.allow? or is there a way to see the original debian version? |
| 17:05.10 | dman | abrotman,it seems to work!! thx |
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| 17:06.00 | abrotman | yay |
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| 17:06.27 | streuner | sanmarcos: none |
| 17:06.36 | streuner | sanmarcos: none entries, all are commented |
| 17:07.30 | streuner | !paste |
| 17:07.31 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 17:08.12 | sandman | If I use prelink, will debsums still come up okay? |
| 17:08.24 | Turms| | sorry if this is a faq, but i could not find the solution, pls address me to the proper howto if it exists! I'm running debian sid, gnome 2.14 nautilus opens dirs as it did in the previous releases, i.e. parent dir, child dir and so on, i prefer the way i have nautilus in ubuntu dapper i.e. one only window, on the left a frame with the main dirs, on top the possibility to choose dir on the right side the contents of the chosen dir |
| 17:08.29 | rxed | What was the name of that website that makes long URLS shorter? |
| 17:08.53 | streuner | sanmarcos: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2539 |
| 17:09.11 | abrotman | rxed: tinyurl |
| 17:09.21 | streuner | sanmarcos: the same for unstable or testing |
| 17:09.26 | rxed | abrotman: thanks. |
| 17:09.30 | sanmarcos | streuner: thanks |
| 17:09.33 | abrotman | Turms|: google for "nautilus turn off spatial" |
| 17:09.46 | Turms| | abrotman: tks :-) |
| 17:10.07 | rxed | Check this out guys! Google's linux distro trends: http://tinyurl.com/my87k |
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| 17:11.26 | rxed | by the way, this doesn't show what people are using but the interest of the general public in those names (debian, redhat etc.) |
| 17:12.11 | abrotman | rxed: wow .. that's totally worthless :) |
| 17:12.21 | rxed | abrotman: I knew you'll like it :-) |
| 17:13.02 | abrotman | rxed: wh ynot gentoo ? or mandriva |
| 17:13.25 | rxed | abrotman: just add those names to your search |
| 17:14.23 | abrotman | only does five |
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| 17:15.52 | streuner | sanmarcos: try '/etc/init.d/portmap restart' |
| 17:16.35 | sanmarcos | streuner: nope, i am going to reboot the server |
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| 17:20.36 | rxed | what is the gubbins syntax that makes gkrellm autohide? |
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| 17:22.09 | tower | hello again. |
| 17:22.17 | tower | http://lautzu.acc.umu.se:8000/tower.ogg This mirror is apparently far better. |
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| 17:25.37 | catobleba | hi.. |
| 17:25.54 | sldkj | Hi! I have a .cpio archive file. How can i copy out its files? |
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| 17:27.01 | streuner | try 'mc' |
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| 17:27.05 | streuner | !info mc |
| 17:27.23 | yaarg | cpio -iv < foo.cpio |
| 17:27.24 | yaarg | mc sucks |
| 17:27.50 | splattnik | yaarg: why does it suck? |
| 17:27.51 | streuner | matter of taste :-) |
| 17:27.56 | rxed | I can't install vlc. I get an error about unmet dependencies. |
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| 17:28.02 | sldkj | yaarg: thanks, i don' t have here mc :- (. |
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| 17:28.36 | foo | err, I am having a problem with my nfs mount. I do ls public (the nfs mount) and it just hangs. 192.168.0.2:/public on /home/foo/public type nfs (rw,addr=192.168.0.2) ... that's from mount. foo 6716 0.0 0.1 2152 696 pts/2 S+ 10:23 0:00 ls --color=auto public .. .that's the ls public process. err, any ideas? I have restarted my box in hopes that it would fix the problem because I don't have time to play with this, but I need to get this fixed. |
| 17:28.50 | yaarg | splattnik: well for a start a sysadmin shouldn't look to arbitary tools that are not available on many systems :P |
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| 17:29.21 | rxed | What player is more featurefull; vlc or xine? |
| 17:29.32 | foo | rxed: vlc. |
| 17:29.51 | rxed | foo: I can't install vlc in testing. |
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| 17:30.09 | streuner | vlc isn't in testing, AFAIK |
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| 17:30.17 | Maakuth | mplayer ftw |
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| 17:30.29 | rxed | streuner: ahh... |
| 17:30.33 | foo | rxed: Oh, you didn't say in testing :P |
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| 17:30.46 | rxed | foo: :> |
| 17:32.03 | sldkj | yaarg: it looks it copied the files, but when it does, it tell me in every line: no such file or directory. (cpio). |
| 17:32.25 | rxed | can vlc play qt? |
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| 17:33.55 | splattnik | yaarg: well.. if you mant to use an program and its not installed on the computer your infront, then theres only one way to solve it, by installing it right? i dont think mc sucks just because it isnt installed.. |
| 17:34.14 | rxed | is there anything that can play quick time? |
| 17:34.15 | foo | rxed: Google |
| 17:34.52 | splattnik | rxed: mplayer with proper codecs, vlc ? |
| 17:34.59 | Thug-N-Me | can i burn a " bin file " same as i burn a iso file ? (burn image) ? |
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| 17:38.41 | dman | any recommendations for a small ftp server? |
| 17:39.19 | sid | dman: vsftpd |
| 17:39.55 | sid | Thug-N-Me: no |
| 17:40.06 | Thug-N-Me | sid how do i burn them ? |
| 17:40.25 | dman | is it easy to configure sid? |
| 17:40.45 | sid | !bchunk |
| 17:40.45 | dpkg | bchunk is probably for converting bin/cue image files to iso9660 the way they should be. bin/cue is made by stupid people. apt-get install bchunk |
| 17:40.49 | sid | dman: yes |
| 17:40.59 | sid | Thug-N-Me: use bchunk |
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| 17:45.18 | dman | any money on oftpd sid? |
| 17:45.49 | heatsink | should the debian/rules file for kernel module packages understand the ROOT_CMD variable? |
| 17:46.19 | heatsink | I see this being assigned in make-kpkg, but none of the rules files for the module source packages I have reference that variable. |
| 17:46.36 | heatsink | And, when I try to build them, dh_fakeroot reports that I'm not root. |
| 17:46.42 | heatsink | I mean, dh_testroot |
| 17:46.57 | heatsink | I'm using the --rootcmd fakeroot option with make-kpkg |
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| 17:47.31 | ACU | Hi guys ---- I have a quick ? question: Can I install Debian Sarge R2 with 2.6 kernel and Xorg right off the bat? --- I have terrible time doing that after I install using linux26 ---Xfree86 is install and when I update to Xorg - many packages cannot be installed etc |
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| 17:48.11 | Thug-N-Me | how do i convert a BIN file to an ISO file ? |
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| 17:50.54 | chealer9 | ACU: why do you think that immediately installing X.org would help? |
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| 17:51.42 | ACU | chealers9 ---- anyhow -- can I do that -------is Etch different - where can I find the difference between Etch and Sarge |
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| 17:51.54 | sid | dman: I recommend vsftpd |
| 17:52.18 | sid | !tell ACU about d-i |
| 17:52.48 | sid | ACU: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ go here...and click on your architecture...and you'll have xorg right off the bat |
| 17:52.50 | chealer9 | ACU: yes, Etch is different. there is no document I know that would document important differences between Sarge and Etch. ask about specific differences if you want to know |
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| 17:55.34 | Groundy | xmltex's install is failing - it says: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied, any ideas? |
| 17:55.41 | sid | !sarge.info |
| 17:55.41 | dpkg | sarge.info is, like, sarge is version 3.1 of debian. It has been released and is STABLE this means there are no new features..or software with new features going into sarge...ONLY security patches. Sarge is a very good distribution for production servers. Some people don't like sarge for desktop because the software can age, and become old. But this old software is what makes it stable. It is like this for a reason. |
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| 17:57.17 | sid | !etch.info |
| 17:57.37 | sid | ACU: get it?/j 5 |
| 17:57.44 | sid | !etch.info |
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| 17:57.53 | Groundy | !tell sid about etch |
| 17:57.59 | hejux | i love this look :http://xfce-look.org/content/pre1/38852-1.jpg |
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| 17:59.07 | hejux_ | i love this look :http://xfce-look.org/content/pre1/38852-1.jpg |
| 17:59.10 | abrotman | we saw |
| 17:59.34 | mooded | abrotman, +19:58:41+ bobbens mooded: devfs has been removed since 2.6.13 |
| 17:59.40 | sid | !etch.info |
| 17:59.41 | dpkg | hmm... etch.info is ETCH .. the next version of debian, it is in testing right now...but will become stable(like sarge is) in December 2006ish. etch currently has newer software compared to sarge...because it hasn't been frozen/released yet. When etch is released it will eventually have old software like sarge. etch gets new software after it has been in unstable for a certain amount of time. |
| 17:59.54 | hejux_ | if i install a gtk theme ,will mplayer and xmms looks better ? |
| 18:00.12 | cahoot | abrotman: the transparency made it easy to miss the first time |
| 18:00.23 | streuner | hejux: they have there own themes |
| 18:00.32 | abrotman | eep .. police academy |
| 18:00.36 | sebas007 | dpkg: thank you for the info! |
| 18:00.36 | Groundy | Error: `tex -ini -jobname=xmltex -progname=xmltex &latex xmltex.ini' failed :-( any ideas? |
| 18:00.36 | dpkg | pas de quoi, sebas007 |
| 18:00.44 | streuner | hejux_: 1001winamskins.com |
| 18:00.49 | ACU | sid: thanks - I am looking at the page with etch for di beta 2 ---------sid to my shame I do not now what is /j 5 |
| 18:00.57 | sebas007 | dpkg: en franƧais en plus... wow t'es hot! |
| 18:01.00 | streuner | hejux_: and check out google for mplayer |
| 18:01.03 | streuner | !es |
| 18:01.03 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:01.07 | streuner | !fr |
| 18:01.07 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 18:01.38 | abrotman | !factinfo etch.info |
| 18:01.39 | dpkg | etch.info -- created by sid <n=user_nam@unaffiliated/kerplunk> 2m 8s ago. |
| 18:02.15 | hejux_ | firefox is boring ,takes long time "waiting for server ......" |
| 18:02.56 | chealer9 | sid: what you're describing in that factoid is testing, except for the hypothetical release date |
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| 18:03.40 | hejux_ | i get xfce4 installed on my debian , if i install a gtk and kde theme and a similar xfc4 theme ,will all of apps look fine ? |
| 18:03.51 | streuner | hejux_: http://www1.1001skins.com/ |
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| 18:04.21 | rxed | Is there apt-get way of installing vlc player in testing |
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| 18:04.27 | streuner | How would we know, whats your favorite theme is? |
| 18:04.32 | hejux_ | streuner, thanks , i use foobar2000 normally |
| 18:04.48 | streuner | rxed: no |
| 18:04.48 | sid | ACU: /j 5 is an alias for my irssi that I typed by accident. |
| 18:04.49 | sid | ignore that |
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| 18:04.59 | chealer9 | rxed: you can install vlc using APT in testing, as long as you have unstable sources |
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| 18:05.05 | hejux_ | <streuner> simple clean , thin , like fluxbox |
| 18:05.09 | streuner | rxed: try to use the package of stable or unstable |
| 18:05.12 | sid | ACU: I would imagine a lot(possibly most?) people in here use etch(testing) as their desktop. |
| 18:05.17 | rxed | ok. thanks. |
| 18:05.25 | sid | ACU: sarge is used for production servers. and etch for desktops. |
| 18:05.31 | sid | ACU: at least that is what I tend to see. |
| 18:05.45 | streuner | rxed: or /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 18:06.04 | hejux_ | haha , i am watch the film "Revolution OS 2001 " |
| 18:06.21 | thingfish | I think a fair amount of people use sarge for their desktops, too. |
| 18:06.28 | hejux_ | anyone see it ? |
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| 18:06.41 | hejux_ | hi thingfish , good afternoon |
| 18:06.42 | ACU | This is what I explore now ---- I looked at the full DVD - last build is march14 --- I wonder what is the difference with the comarison of daily built |
| 18:06.43 | sid | chealer9: vlc depends on libc6 so it will upgrade his libc6 to unstable. |
| 18:06.56 | thingfish | hi hejux_, how are you? |
| 18:06.56 | dpkg | thingfish: mas o menos |
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| 18:07.24 | sid | thingfish: I agree. A lot use sarge for their desktops. |
| 18:07.26 | hejux_ | thingfish, i am very fine , i am doing something on debian |
| 18:07.40 | hejux_ | how is your bussness ? |
| 18:07.40 | thingfish | hejux_: great! |
| 18:07.48 | thingfish | hejux_: just fine. |
| 18:07.54 | hejux_ | :) |
| 18:07.55 | sid | thingfish: A lot of people don't realize how sarge works also though. |
| 18:07.58 | ACU | sid: one last question ---- if I install Etch --- do I need to add backports.org to my repositories ? |
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| 18:08.05 | sid | ACU: no |
| 18:08.08 | thingfish | sid: what make you say that? |
| 18:08.15 | sid | ACU: You'll have xorg by default..and newer software by default. |
| 18:08.22 | sid | thingfish: ACI |
| 18:08.25 | sid | thingfish: ACU |
| 18:08.26 | chealer9 | sid: no. many packages in testing depend on libc6 |
| 18:08.47 | ACU | sid: so OpenOffice will be version 2 etc |
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| 18:08.57 | sid | 14:05 < chealer9> rxed: you can install vlc using APT in testing, as long as you have unstable sources |
| 18:09.04 | sid | chealer9: This will upgrade his libc6 to unstable's. |
| 18:09.08 | chealer9 | sid: no |
| 18:09.26 | sid | no? |
| 18:09.49 | chealer9 | sid: no... |
| 18:09.57 | sid | o I get it |
| 18:09.58 | sid | nevermind |
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| 18:10.28 | ACU | OK I am starting now to download it ---- thanks lets see how it will work ---- I downloaded before the DVD version of Etch and was "broken" -----I am sure is not the case now ----thank you sid and chealer9 --- |
| 18:11.01 | sid | ACU: What you're downloading now is the net install. It will download packages as you do the install. |
| 18:11.18 | chealer9 | ACU: if you feel like download several GB, go ahead. I hope you have a fast connection |
| 18:11.19 | sid | This way you only download what you install. Instead of downloading an entire DVD or two...and then only using 10% of the data. |
| 18:11.23 | hejux_ | thingfish , what is the most pop cpu on your store ? |
| 18:11.50 | Thug-N-Me | how come the dvd i have can be burn at max. speed 16 and the k3b says max speed 4 ? |
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| 18:12.21 | hazard__ | maybe the max of your drive for that type of DVDR is 4x? |
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| 18:12.54 | aliasnexus0 | anyone in here knowledgeable about samba printer serving with windows clients? |
| 18:12.55 | ACU | Thanks sid ---- I have to give it to someone who do not have access to internet --- so I have do download ---- now God help with Jigdo configuration file for download ---- last time it took me two days to figure out that ----- |
| 18:12.57 | Thug-N-Me | so +R might be faster .. thats what you are saying ? |
| 18:13.07 | hazard__ | Also, worth noting is that burned DVDs can last longer if you burn them at slower speeds. |
| 18:13.17 | hazard__ | Yes, it depends on your drive. |
| 18:13.26 | hazard__ | if you happen to have an older drive, its max might just be 4x |
| 18:13.43 | sid | aliasnexus0: I bet people in #samba are |
| 18:13.46 | Thug-N-Me | hazard__ 2004 machine |
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| 18:14.05 | aliasnexus0 | sid, didn't realize there was a channel for samba, thanks =) |
| 18:14.05 | hazard__ | that dosen't really make a diffrence if its an older drive. |
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| 18:14.20 | Thug-N-Me | hazard__ ok thanks |
| 18:14.23 | sepski | aliasnexus0, samba mearly gives you a windows interface to the cups systesm so 1. get cups working. 2. enable sambas autoloading of printers. keep in ming you can only use 1 of the drivesrs. ie windows printer driver on a RAW cups que. or a postscript windows driver on a cups printer. |
| 18:15.10 | aliasnexus0 | sepski, yeah i have everything setup and working, but i'm having trouble with the windows computers losing connectivity after a reboot |
| 18:15.41 | aliasnexus0 | though my xp pro system doesn't, every other windows client is home |
| 18:15.45 | aliasnexus0 | so i was thinking that could be why |
| 18:16.09 | sepski | aliasnexus0, hen your windows reboots it cant find the printer anylonger ? |
| 18:16.16 | sepski | aliasnexus0, but regular shares work ? |
| 18:16.25 | aliasnexus0 | it shows up in Printers and Faxes, but it says "unable to connect, access denied" |
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| 18:16.45 | aliasnexus0 | regular shares don't always work, i have to reinput the password sometimes |
| 18:17.00 | onetinsoldier | hello all |
| 18:17.00 | aliasnexus0 | file sharing on windows is a mess |
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| 18:17.04 | sid | !greet onetinsoldier |
| 18:17.04 | dpkg | Howdy, onetinsoldier |
| 18:17.19 | sepski | aliasnexus0, no question there. you can forinstalce allow public/guest printing. |
| 18:17.21 | onetinsoldier | :) |
| 18:17.27 | hazard__ | make sure that the windows machines mount some other share first, I had some weird problems with them refusing to remember passwords, and if you connect to a share on the machine that's sharing the printer on a regular share first, then the printer's connectivity is assured using the same username/password |
| 18:17.40 | sepski | aliasnexus0, or get your samba authentication cleaned up |
| 18:17.46 | Pluto | first time here |
| 18:17.52 | hazard__ | at least, that worked for me. |
| 18:17.56 | aliasnexus0 | sepski, what would here be to clean up? |
| 18:17.59 | sid | !tell Pluto about ask |
| 18:18.13 | aliasnexus0 | hazard__, i see |
| 18:18.21 | sepski | aliasnexus0, well you could use you'r samba as the main authentication server. |
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| 18:19.03 | Pluto | how does it work here? I have a question :) |
| 18:19.07 | hazard__ | that was also only with windows-> windows share |
| 18:19.08 | sepski | foring you to enter password on login, if you dont want to use passwords i guess it's down to mounting with password on commandline in a script on boot or some such other way |
| 18:19.09 | rzerbe | ouch , so most of 3.1r1 for ppc iso's are gone? heh only have 1-12 missing 13 and 14..heh |
| 18:19.11 | kbrooks | OK |
| 18:19.12 | hazard__ | so...like...ask |
| 18:19.18 | kbrooks | I want some help |
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| 18:19.39 | kbrooks | is there a tiny (!!! tiny) python package i can look at to make my own? |
| 18:19.43 | aliasnexus0 | sepski, hmm ok |
| 18:20.08 | aliasnexus0 | hmm i have an idea, going to go try something real quick |
| 18:20.09 | aliasnexus0 | brb |
| 18:20.12 | kbrooks | is there a tiny (!!! tiny) python package i can look at to make my own? |
| 18:20.56 | hazard__ | I don't know. |
| 18:21.13 | hazard__ | I'm only familar with bash scripting. |
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| 18:21.38 | rxed | Is it possible to have automatic replay setup in xine? |
| 18:22.11 | rest | hi is it possible to replace the "doubleclick" and start aps with onClick ? (using fluxbox) |
| 18:22.34 | sid | rest: /join #fluxbox |
| 18:22.51 | sid | I've never had to double click in fluxbox. |
| 18:23.05 | rxed | I'm using fluxbox and I never double-click on anything. |
| 18:23.22 | rest | not true when you say "open file" ... |
| 18:24.04 | rxed | huh? |
| 18:24.19 | rest | look at xmms |
| 18:24.19 | Coweater | open and save file dialogs |
| 18:24.29 | rest | CoolCubix, right |
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| 18:24.43 | rest | Coweater, i mean sry |
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| 18:25.12 | rxed | rest: I fail to see how is open and save dialog related to fluxbox. |
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| 18:26.02 | rest | its not important but interesting for me |
| 18:26.35 | sid | !ops psychz is a spammer |
| 18:26.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: psychz is a spammer |
| 18:26.58 | rest | in kde i think its possible to say it but i dont rember exactly maybe only on the desktop |
| 18:27.23 | onetinsoldier | hey sid.. how can i see about 'ask'? |
| 18:27.34 | sid | onetinsoldier: /msg dpkg ask |
| 18:27.41 | onetinsoldier | sid.. are you a sid user? hehe |
| 18:27.47 | sid | !tell onetinsoldier about msgdpkg |
| 18:27.50 | sid | onetinsoldier: /msg dpkg help |
| 18:28.09 | onetinsoldier | ok.. thanks man. i'm really rusty with irc and linux. it's been years! |
| 18:28.35 | Coweater | rest: kde's applies to anything that uses the kde libs for it's file dialogs i believe, gtk apps however don't seem to pay attention to anything else |
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| 18:29.04 | rest | Coweater, ok unterstood |
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| 18:29.42 | StyXman | where can I read about the new feature of apt, namely, pdiff? |
| 18:29.47 | rest | would be nice if there is a "global setting" :) |
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| 18:30.00 | kbrooks | is there a tiny (!!! tiny) python package i can look at to make my own? |
| 18:30.26 | StyXman | better: is there a #debian-dev channel? |
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| 18:31.01 | chealer9 | StyXman: in Anthony Towns' blog, maybe |
| 18:31.05 | Coweater | rest: if you find it, tell me |
| 18:31.07 | tralala | StyXman: there is a mailing list. Perhaps the archives will have something. |
| 18:31.14 | chealer9 | StyXman: no |
| 18:31.15 | rest | Coweater, hihi shure |
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| 18:32.31 | Dulcicu | sa moara ciacanel |
| 18:32.38 | abrotman | eh .. english ? |
| 18:32.39 | StyXman | tralala: which ML? |
| 18:32.55 | ACU | sid: OK now I am smarter? ---- it seem that Xorg 7.0 is the next generation - I have read few comments that somehow the transition can be problematic --- for Etch beta 2 last release date for the CD is 15 March ----- the comment about Xorg 7.0 are in April 19 ----so should I suppose that it is fixed ----- is a daily build (8 may) better than the other Monthly build? ---- |
| 18:33.13 | abrotman | xorg7 isn't in etch |
| 18:34.15 | StyXman | Dulcicu: romania? |
| 18:34.19 | tralala | StyXman: debian-dev |
| 18:34.29 | StyXman | tralala: k, tx |
| 18:34.45 | Dulcicu | StyXman : Cam Da :D :)) |
| 18:34.58 | onetinsoldier | anyone want to help me with usb mouse problem? it was working fine and i don't know what happened, but now i have to... |
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| 18:35.10 | StyXman | Dulcicu: I don't know any romanian, just a wild guess :) |
| 18:35.18 | onetinsoldier | modprobe hid and mousedev and restart gpm |
| 18:35.22 | StyXman | onetinsoldier: just state your problem |
| 18:35.27 | onetinsoldier | i did |
| 18:35.49 | StyXman | onetinsoldier: k, sorry |
| 18:35.53 | onetinsoldier | np |
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| 18:36.23 | tralala | onetinsoldier: add mousedev and hid to /etc/modules |
| 18:36.41 | onetinsoldier | i tried that... didnt work.. to my surprise |
| 18:37.02 | tralala | now that's a surprise! |
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| 18:37.15 | onetinsoldier | after rebooting they don't show in lsmod |
| 18:37.33 | rxed | I have video player installed and I'm trying to download mpg file to test it. Is it possible to find mpeg file that is NOT porn?? Gee. |
| 18:37.39 | onetinsoldier | i can try again tho |
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| 18:38.04 | tralala | onetinsoldier: do you happen to run a self-compiled kernel by any chance? |
| 18:38.18 | mahatma | I'm unsure what to add to play aiff files. Is there a gstreamer plugin? |
| 18:38.43 | onetinsoldier | no... i have been thinking about compiling my own, but i am very rusty with linux right now! it's been years for me |
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| 18:39.29 | tralala | mahatma: apt-cache search aiff will come up with plenty of results |
| 18:39.33 | PBeck | hi |
| 18:39.45 | onetinsoldier | howdy :) |
| 18:40.13 | tralala | onetinsoldier: /etc/modules should work. I don't have any other ideas. |
| 18:40.14 | mahatma | tralala: ohh, I did a search with synaptic, which returned nothing;) |
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| 18:41.10 | tralala | mahatma: I'm not using synaptic but my guess is that it will be able to search the package descriptions as long as you know how to do it. |
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| 18:43.40 | yohu123 | can anyone help me with building of microwindows this time? |
| 18:44.07 | PBeck | bye :) |
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| 18:44.32 | yohu123 | i have installed libX11-dev and it gives an error saying that it cant find X11/Xlib.h |
| 18:44.45 | yohu123 | now i know i have to place the path of the X11 dir somewhere, but where exactly? |
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| 18:45.24 | t4dyce | can someone please recomend HP or Lexmark printers that work with debian 3.1 |
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| 18:45.43 | aliasnexus0 | check out linuxprinting.org |
| 18:45.54 | aliasnexus0 | they have a huge database of printers that work/don't work |
| 18:45.57 | t4dyce | thanks |
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| 18:46.47 | onetinsoldier | tralala: ok, thanks. i will try again and see what happens. and i apologize, i was away for a few minutes there. anyway, thx. |
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| 18:47.39 | Illnor | Installing Debian 2.1 w/ 1.44Mb floppies onto an old Toshiba Satellite 100CS (75MHz, 8Mb RAM).. after install and partition and all that.. after booting the last two lines are "Mounting local file systems..." "not mounted anything" |
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| 18:48.15 | Illnor | That may be because the main filesystem is not within so many sectors of the hard drive.. and the old thing can't boot to just anywhere in the HD |
| 18:49.37 | ACU | More and more confusing: is any difference between testing and d-i etch beta 2 ? ----- I got testing DVD iso file built on May 8 ------http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ ---- or this which is d-i testing march ----http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/i386/bt-cd/ ---- and this weekly http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-dvd/ ---- please can help me sort out which is b |
| 18:49.37 | ACU | est? |
| 18:50.08 | dvs | ACU: I'd pick etch beta 2 |
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| 18:51.26 | ACU | They are all etch beta 2 |
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| 18:54.07 | aliasnexus0 | hrm, this is the error i get in the samba logs after i reboot a windows pc that i connected to the debian print server, http://nexusserv.hopto.org/error.txt |
| 18:54.24 | dondelelcaro | ACU: you're pointing at a dvd, a bittorrent cd, and a jigdo cd. |
| 18:54.36 | dondelelcaro | ACU: two of which are weekly builds, one of which is the di beta 2. |
| 18:54.50 | aliasnexus0 | anyone remotely know what it could mean? |
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| 18:55.18 | onetinsoldier | what's 'di'? |
| 18:55.41 | tgwj | sounds like debian-installer |
| 18:55.49 | onetinsoldier | oh! thx |
| 18:56.06 | onetinsoldier | probably right |
| 18:56.28 | yohu123 | anyone that can help me with building microwindows? |
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| 18:56.36 | dondelelcaro | aliasnexus0: yes, that's normal. |
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| 18:56.52 | dondelelcaro | aliasnexus0: it should just start working again; it's complaining because the connection was reset by peer, aka the peer went away. |
| 18:56.57 | ACU | dondelcaroOK so Di beta 2 is not testing? |
| 18:57.07 | aliasnexus0 | dondelelcaro, it shouldn't be because once i reboot Windows Printers and Faxes reports "access denied unable to connect" on the remote printer |
| 18:57.16 | aliasnexus0 | dondelelcaro, oh |
| 18:57.24 | onetinsoldier | well i used the net installer which would be 'di' |
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| 18:58.02 | onetinsoldier | 'di' will install etch beta 2.. over the net anyway |
| 18:58.06 | aliasnexus0 | dondelelcaro, though it never has started working again, it always reports "access denied, unable to connect", until i delete the printer and then re-add it |
| 18:58.34 | dondelelcaro | aliasnexus0: hrm... sounds like a windows issue then... |
| 18:58.40 | aliasnexus0 | it probably is |
| 18:58.57 | dondelelcaro | ACU: testing is a distribution, d-i is an installer. |
| 18:58.57 | aliasnexus0 | i don't understand why file sharing on windows is so complicated |
| 18:59.40 | dondelelcaro | AC2Dhwat you install withthe d-i images really depends on you, not the media itself. |
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| 19:00.38 | rockstar_ | Hey folks |
| 19:01.00 | onetinsoldier | hi |
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| 19:05.29 | perti | hi |
| 19:05.36 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier: Can't help but continue to tinker with my newest Debian machine. Do you know if I can clone the desktop, but in a different resolution? |
| 19:05.36 | perti | i have a little problem |
| 19:05.49 | onetinsoldier | hi perti |
| 19:06.14 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: clone? |
| 19:06.32 | perti | i'm configuring my xserver but when i make dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the section that say mouse only show 2 options, and dont ask about the monitor and others stuff and dont create the xorg.conf file |
| 19:07.13 | onetinsoldier | not sure rockstar.. i'm reeeallly rusty withmy linux right now. just installed it and it's been years since i've used linux |
| 19:07.20 | rockstar_ | My main monitor can do 1440x900 but my TV only does 1280x800, but I want to clone it |
| 19:07.22 | sepski | !xmd5 |
| 19:07.22 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 19:07.44 | sepski | perti, run it with dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg |
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| 19:08.27 | xt | hi! |
| 19:08.38 | perti | sepski: the same |
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| 19:08.53 | sepski | perti, then i dont know. sorry. |
| 19:09.00 | perti | ok |
| 19:09.01 | perti | :S |
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| 19:09.08 | perti | i'm upgrading from stable |
| 19:09.32 | xt | which debian is better: sarge, etch or sid? |
| 19:09.47 | sepski | !better |
| 19:09.47 | dpkg | i guess better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 19:09.53 | xt | which works better? |
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| 19:10.46 | tralala | xt: sarge |
| 19:11.13 | tralala | it is the only one that is guaranteed to work |
| 19:11.44 | perti | anyone know what i have to do? |
| 19:12.39 | sepski | perti, do the upgrade first. then worry about reconfigure afterwards |
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| 19:14.47 | two|face | hey I"m trying to setup vnc and supposedly its running but it won't let me connect |
| 19:14.50 | two|face | any ideas? fresh install |
| 19:15.03 | abrotman | perti: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg |
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| 19:15.21 | xt | ok thanks! |
| 19:15.35 | sepski | abrotman,seams that didnt work he claimed. |
| 19:15.37 | rest | two|face, iptables ? |
| 19:15.47 | two|face | don't have any |
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| 19:15.48 | dennis_ | hi how can I install my sound card manualy??? with the stable release the sounds doesn't work |
| 19:15.51 | key2 | hi |
| 19:16.04 | rest | two|face, how you connect ? |
| 19:16.04 | sepski | two|face, is it listening to it's port (netstat -plont) |
| 19:16.21 | ACU | dondelcare or anyone who can answer- what is the difference between distribution and installer ---- I thought the installer is part of the distribution ---- I am asking because the di_beta2_etch is build on Mar 15 the daily one is on May 8 ---- I downloaded before 3 DVDs for the March one (but I do not know whether was a "di") and it did not work ---- now I do not want to download the same DVDs - |
| 19:16.24 | abrotman | sepski: with -plow ? |
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| 19:16.31 | rest | maybe something with the display on the viewer ? |
| 19:16.32 | sepski | !alsa one-liner |
| 19:16.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
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| 19:16.51 | minerale | how can I tell what version of debian i'm running? |
| 19:16.59 | two|face | sepski: yeah it says its listening |
| 19:17.00 | abrotman | !veresion |
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| 19:17.01 | key2 | could someone tell me how I could run the installation program again so it installs all the packages ? is there any dpkg-??? to run ? |
| 19:17.02 | two|face | rest: ip |
| 19:17.03 | abrotman | !version |
| 19:17.04 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 19:17.12 | abrotman | key2: to install what? |
| 19:17.13 | MaximilianoADL | hello to all |
| 19:17.21 | rest | two|face, window or linux the client ? |
| 19:17.31 | two|face | trying to connect from windows to linux |
| 19:17.31 | key2 | abrotman: gcc and all the include files |
| 19:17.41 | two|face | I can connect from linux to windows, and from windows to windows |
| 19:17.44 | abrotman | !b-e key2 |
| 19:17.44 | dpkg | key2: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 19:17.45 | rest | two|face, i make it like this vncviewer ip:0 |
| 19:18.09 | rest | two|face, gateway maybe ? |
| 19:18.13 | abrotman | minerale: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 19:18.21 | rest | two|face, no java ? hehe |
| 19:18.23 | two|face | rest: its on my subnet |
| 19:18.28 | two|face | I have java :) |
| 19:18.33 | rest | iiiii |
| 19:18.38 | rest | :) |
| 19:18.41 | dennis_ | hi how can I install my sound card manualy??? with the stable release the sounds doesn't work |
| 19:18.45 | key2 | abrotman: thx so much |
| 19:18.53 | abrotman | minerale: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1? |
| 19:18.56 | abrotman | bah |
| 19:18.58 | abrotman | dennis_: 2.4 or 2.6 .. OSS or ALSA ? |
| 19:19.00 | MaximilianoADL | who knows if exist a channel similar to this one but in spanish???? |
| 19:19.03 | abrotman | !es |
| 19:19.04 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 19:19.16 | sepski | !alsa |
| 19:19.16 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist> |
| 19:19.18 | aliasnexus0 | hazard__, i tried what you said about forceing windows to remember a password by making another share, and even then it didn't save the test share password, so i've either got a problem with my samba config or windows is just dumb |
| 19:19.28 | dennis_ | 2.6 alsa (already got the 1.0.11 backport) |
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| 19:19.56 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 19:19.56 | dpkg | hmm... alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 19:20.03 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 19:20.06 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 19:20.06 | dpkg | somebody said alsa-checklist was 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
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| 19:21.11 | key2 | abrotman: do you know about zlib-dev ? |
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| 19:21.54 | dennis_ | abrotman..: euh no alsconf....also the sounds volume says no mixer present or device |
| 19:22.08 | abrotman | key2: what about it ? |
| 19:22.16 | abrotman | i doubt it's called zlib-dev |
| 19:22.32 | key2 | abrotman: if it's missing, in what package is it ? |
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| 19:22.32 | abrotman | !tell dennis_ about alsa one-liner |
| 19:22.40 | abrotman | key2: apt-cache search zlib dev |
| 19:22.43 | key2 | abrotman: I did a apt-cache search termcap but didnt find any |
| 19:22.46 | abrotman | i think i'ts like zlib1g-dev or something |
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| 19:22.58 | SonnyBurnett | hi, does somebody can connect to a realvnc server using protocol version 4.0 ? what vnc viewer? |
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| 19:25.22 | rest | two|face, hmm is the windows version of vnc very new ? |
| 19:25.24 | foo | I did apt-get update and saw this .. Get:14 2006-05-11-1340.12.pdiff [327B] ... what is the pdiff about? I've never seen it before. hmm.. and I got like 17 of them |
| 19:25.33 | gt | hey how are you? |
| 19:25.34 | dpkg | gt: pretty good. how about you? |
| 19:25.35 | minerale | abrotman: ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22sa GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone .... although i'm not sure why you want it |
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| 19:25.51 | secher | Using iwconfig to log onto a friend's network, and his WEP pw is blah. when I enter iwconfig wlan0 essid whatever key s:blah I get "Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A): Set failed on dev wlan0; invalid arg. <more> |
| 19:26.09 | abrotman | mindstrm: that's sarge |
| 19:26.10 | rest | two|face, there are some security updates last day(s) maybe wrong version ... |
| 19:26.19 | minerale | I have a xen virtual shell and it's (hard) rebooting hairly often... is there a log that keeps track of all the reboots? |
| 19:26.32 | abrotman | secher: his WEP Key is "blah" ? |
| 19:26.42 | SonnyBurnett | rest, what vnc viewer/server do you use? |
| 19:26.49 | secher | Umm.. not much more I guess, any ideas? No, his WEP is not actually blah.. |
| 19:27.05 | rest | SonnyBurnett, at the monet none sry |
| 19:27.05 | abrotman | i mean .. it's that Hex string .. right? |
| 19:27.09 | rest | moment |
| 19:27.17 | abrotman | i'm hungry |
| 19:27.33 | rest | SonnyBurnett, tsclient is much better for me on windows |
| 19:27.59 | SonnyBurnett | rest, does it can see vnc servers? |
| 19:28.00 | secher | abrotman: No, that's the problem, he does not know the hex for it, and I don't know how to convert the ASCII to the appropriate hex.. it's not a straight ascii to hex conversion. |
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| 19:28.14 | abrotman | secher: go into the router and look? :) |
| 19:28.27 | rest | SonnyBurnett, yes it can connect is using vncviewer |
| 19:28.37 | sigjuice | is there an easy way to look at the changelog deltas for all the packages that got updated by apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 19:28.47 | secher | abrotman: Good idea, but he's runnign a Mac wireless network, and it looks like everything's sealed ujp. |
| 19:28.52 | gt | i had a problem with kde & im thinking in upgrade it to 3.5.0 or 3.5.1 but im using sarge. is there a way to do this whith a backport or something like that or is better upgrade my system into testing or sid? |
| 19:29.08 | secher | abrotman: I.e., I looked already. |
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| 19:29.16 | gt | i had a problem with kde & im thinking in upgrade it to 3.5.0 or 3.5.1 but im using sarge. is there a way to do this whith a backport or something like that or is better to upgrade my system into testing or sid? |
| 19:29.20 | SonnyBurnett | rest, nice! it worked, does it has a server? |
| 19:29.21 | Blissex | gt: dont ''upgrade'' to 'testing' or 'unstable'! Just get a backport. |
| 19:29.21 | rest | SonnyBurnett, i use more the RDP-windows protocoll to connect |
| 19:29.31 | rest | only client |
| 19:29.41 | rest | i think ^^ |
| 19:29.41 | SonnyBurnett | rest, :( |
| 19:29.46 | Blissex | gt: also, dont repeat questions more often than every ten minutes... |
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| 19:29.52 | rest | you need a server for linux ? |
| 19:29.53 | secher | so I need a util to convert the ascii for a wep passwd. or , why does s:blah not work. |
| 19:30.08 | Blissex | gt: unless of course you have paid for a platinum support account number. |
| 19:30.10 | SonnyBurnett | rest, I mean a VNC server |
| 19:30.21 | rest | linux -> linux better use ssh -X (X-forwarding) |
| 19:30.21 | onetinsoldier | i doubt anyone can help with this, but my kernel takes a crap when i try to start kdm. :-/ lol. any ideas? |
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| 19:31.01 | abrotman_ | secher: in gnome .. there's a handy dandy thingie to configure wifi .. and it asks if the key is ascii or hex |
| 19:31.12 | abrotman_ | stupid comcast |
| 19:31.20 | gt | blissex: ok . sorry. |
| 19:31.50 | secher | abrotman: key s:blah should be correct for the ascii password, yes? However, the man page refers to a password, and then on another line it mentions that passphrase is not supported.. really confusing... Kk, thanks.. do y' know the name per.. nm, I can google it. |
| 19:32.03 | secher | Thanks man.. |
| 19:32.09 | rest | SonnyBurnett, i think the tightvncserver is nice |
| 19:32.09 | SonnyBurnett | rest, If I want to connecto from Windows to Linux, can I use ssh? |
| 19:32.36 | rest | hmm no idea not a windows user |
| 19:32.51 | abrotman | WTF |
| 19:32.53 | rest | i dont think so, maybe with cygwin |
| 19:33.19 | Rightcoast | SonnyBurnett, yeah use putty |
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| 19:33.30 | rzerbe | SonnyBurnett: there are ssh clients for winblows..think openssh has one also |
| 19:33.42 | rest | x-forward ? |
| 19:33.44 | rest | hehe cool |
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| 19:34.11 | gt | i was warned about using backports: that if i use a backport for kde & then another for gnome (i would like gnome 2.14 too) it could get my system into a mess. is that true?. & by the way. do you recommend me a backport for these two?. :-) |
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| 19:34.58 | E-bola | How can i see in debian if my nic is running in 10/100 or 1000mbit mode? |
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| 19:35.51 | moke1809 | hi people |
| 19:36.31 | moke1809 | i mapped some multimedia keys on my laptop using xmodmap |
| 19:36.35 | foo | I did apt-get update and saw this .. Get:14 2006-05-11-1340.12.pdiff [327B] ... what is the pdiff about? I've never seen it before. hmm.. and I got like 17 of them |
| 19:36.36 | abrotman | mii-tool or ethtool |
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| 19:36.46 | abrotman | foo: only the diff between days |
| 19:36.49 | onetinsoldier | E-bola: not certain. but I suppose you could install a network monitor and then download something fairly large from a fast site on the internet while watching the network monitor |
| 19:36.51 | foo | abrotman: ah, ok |
| 19:37.26 | moke1809 | but the problem is, when i put xmodmap in xsession my x crashes on startx |
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| 19:37.31 | SonnyBurnett | rzerbe, Rightcoast , yep. but theres some winbugs stations where you are not allowed to install anything |
| 19:37.34 | close_to_debian | does any one have MSI K8MM-V motherboard? |
| 19:37.35 | titi25 | hi all |
| 19:37.43 | E-bola | onetinsoldier: that wouldnt help |
| 19:37.45 | titi25 | hi |
| 19:37.49 | E-bola | that would messure my inet connection |
| 19:37.51 | onetinsoldier | ok.. sorry |
| 19:37.55 | E-bola | but it seem mII-tool does the job |
| 19:37.55 | E-bola | :) |
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| 19:38.13 | titi25 | please somebody can help me i have a evow54pci card |
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| 19:38.24 | kepht | think it was mii-diag |
| 19:38.41 | titi25 | and i could not install it on debian 2.6.15 |
| 19:38.48 | titi25 | :/ |
| 19:38.48 | moke1809 | anybody xmodmap and xsession? |
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| 19:39.55 | onetinsoldier | i doubt anyone can help with this, but my kernel takes a crap when i try to start kdm. :-/ lol. any ideas? |
| 19:40.22 | abrotman | is it your own? |
| 19:40.46 | onetinsoldier | nope.. i have thought about compiling my own fairly soon tho |
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| 19:41.06 | rzerbe | have you tried gdm , kdm is touchy at times |
| 19:41.36 | dennis_ | abrotman...my soundcrd is witin a ich6 chipset...is this supported by alsa??? |
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| 19:42.20 | gt | can you help me? i was warned about using backports: that if i use a backport for kde 3.5 & then another for gnome 2.14 it could get my system into a mess. is that true?. & by the way. do you recommend me a backport for these two?. :-) |
| 19:42.27 | titi25 | Have somebody install an ovislink evow54pci card on linux debian please? |
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| 19:42.35 | abrotman | dennis_: ask #alsa .. but it should be |
| 19:42.38 | onetinsoldier | no. i haven't tried gdm. i suppose i could. still, kdm cause the kernel to crash? seems is kdm was touchy, it would crash, not crash the kernel.. but maybe that's it. i don't know |
| 19:42.40 | abrotman | dennis_: is this on sarge? |
| 19:42.45 | phaedral | hi all |
| 19:42.48 | dennis_ | abrotman yes |
| 19:42.54 | abrotman | !tell dennis_ about backports |
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| 19:42.56 | hjubal | hi |
| 19:42.57 | gt | im using sarge by the way |
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| 19:43.26 | close_to_debian | what would be the best motherboard for linux (with amd 64) |
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| 19:43.41 | mentor | !best |
| 19:43.42 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 19:43.49 | mentor | close_to_debian: not nFarce |
| 19:43.57 | phaedral | i've got a sarge box and use dyndns to access it when away from home; with verizon dsl this all worked out of the box, but since switching to cable modem last week I can ping and traceroute but ssh and http always fail |
| 19:43.59 | dennis_ | abrotman but i already have the latest backport |
| 19:44.00 | phaedral | would love a clue |
| 19:44.05 | rzerbe | onetinsoldier: no idea, but kde crashes mine and gdm dont, i never looked into it (me:ppc sarge) |
| 19:44.22 | close_to_debian | mentor: I would like somethings that would with minmal hassle |
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| 19:44.31 | TTT_Travis | guys I have a bunch of vidcasts I like to watch like commandn, and some other ones. Is there any command line based podcast catcher that has bittorrent support? |
| 19:44.32 | abrotman | dennis_: for kernel and alsa? |
| 19:44.59 | phaedral | for starters I tried changiner the port apache2 listens on, in case my cable co was blocking 80, but that doesn't help |
| 19:45.18 | brick | i have a filesystem i'd like to install the base packages on, to complement my full desktop install. how can i run the installer on a running system? |
| 19:45.19 | dennis_ | abrotman....i just want to ask you is kernel 2.6.14 supported (because in etdchi also don't have any sound) |
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| 19:45.34 | onetinsoldier | rzerbe.. ok. thanks. i will try gdm or xdm then and see what happens. i don't know why but i have feeling i'm going to have to compile my own kernel to have things work out, hehe. |
| 19:45.43 | abrotman | dennis_: ask #alsa |
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| 19:46.16 | dennis_ | thx |
| 19:46.32 | abrotman | i have a feeling you've misconfigured alsa |
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| 19:47.03 | Blissex | abrotman: very common perception, usually right too :-) |
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| 19:47.21 | Blissex | abrotman: I am waiting for him in #ALSA now... |
| 19:47.21 | wishfull1 | hi everyone, i'm new to linux, and am wondering if getting sarge is pretty easy on a dell inspiron 600m...i've used opensuse 10 and fedora c5, and didn't have much trouble with them. |
| 19:47.48 | brick | wishfull1, go for it |
| 19:48.51 | wishfull1 | is the hardware detection pretty good for my laptop with this distro? |
| 19:49.05 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 19:49.05 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org , and also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 19:49.29 | phaedral | is there a better channel for me to be asking on? right now it's either figure out how to make it work on the cable modem or keep the dsl |
| 19:49.31 | abrotman | he's alive! |
| 19:49.56 | seb- | !simple sid backports |
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| 19:50.05 | seb- | !simple sid backport |
| 19:50.06 | dpkg | i heard simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 19:50.07 | abrotman | !tell seb- about simple sid backport |
| 19:50.33 | phaedral | wishfull1: sarge was a drag with my last laptop but etch was pretty good out of the box |
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| 19:50.39 | phaedral | only challenge was wifi |
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| 19:51.10 | phaedral | my last couple of laptops werer costco compaqs, fairly generic |
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| 19:51.12 | brick | any clues on the installer? i've never run it except from a rescue disk. i found the program debootstrap but that seems to do more than what i want: to put base packages on a filesystem. |
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| 19:52.03 | wishfull1 | i'm downloading etch now, isn't etch just the beta installer for sarge? |
| 19:52.23 | Ronin | sarge=stable, etch=testing,stid=unstable |
| 19:52.27 | Ronin | umm sid i mean |
| 19:52.35 | wishfull1 | oh, ok |
| 19:52.35 | seb- | abrotman: got any shortcuts to cloning a debian pc? i mean...how 1. get list of packages to download 2. download list in one shot? |
| 19:53.03 | wishfull1 | ...my friend told me woody was the stable....guess they updated it |
| 19:53.09 | wishfull1 | my bad |
| 19:53.10 | wishfull1 | :) |
| 19:53.22 | Ronin | woody was till about a year or so ago |
| 19:53.27 | Blissex | wishfull1: typo: 'woody' is the *stale* released.... |
| 19:53.27 | wishfull1 | ah ok |
| 19:53.36 | wishfull1 | oh, heh |
| 19:54.24 | seb- | Ronin: what is nickname of testing? |
| 19:54.38 | Ronin | seb-: etch |
| 19:54.52 | seb- | thanx |
| 19:55.11 | Ronin | theres a dpkg trigger to explain teh release cycle but im too tired to remember it |
| 19:55.32 | seb- | Ronin: they should call the new stable..."Buzz" |
| 19:55.41 | abrotman | !tell seb- about debian clone |
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| 19:56.09 | seb- | abrotman: hot dog! thanks! |
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| 19:56.54 | eflynn | how do i get the pid of the shell? |
| 19:57.02 | abrotman | man bash |
| 19:57.34 | eflynn | tcsh |
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| 19:57.55 | seb- | abrotman: course that'll barf on the homemade backports |
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| 19:58.01 | abrotman | probably |
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| 19:59.10 | eflynn | found it, it's echo $$ |
| 20:01.34 | brick | i have 380MB left on this key... would like to fit a small root fs on there as well |
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| 20:03.24 | seb- | abrotman: debian sound config is too easy now..alsaconf takes all the pain away |
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| 20:03.45 | onetinsoldier | so.. you like pain? hehe |
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| 20:04.31 | onetinsoldier | i myself am insane, i like pain, lol. |
| 20:04.42 | leo_ | halo |
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| 20:07.21 | sfaefx | Hi. I can't run things from my chroot with dchroot. I can manually but I think dchroot is taking the PATH from my 64-bit part. This is bad. I'm using -d because I need it to work on my display ... should I be doing something else? |
| 20:08.14 | abrotman | seb-: tell that to dennis |
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| 20:10.11 | untung | hi i am new to linux here |
| 20:10.16 | monaco | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.45 | onetinsoldier | hello untung.. welcome! i'm kinda new too. well, just extremely rusty actually |
| 20:10.55 | untung | i am using ubuntu, is that debian linux? |
| 20:11.03 | abrotman | ask in #ubuntu please |
| 20:11.33 | furby | hi folks, could somebody spare some pointers on DebianCustomCD? I just can't make enough sense of the online-documentation |
| 20:11.39 | untung | hi onetinsoldier, me too |
| 20:11.40 | abrotman | !custom netinst |
| 20:11.41 | dpkg | i guess custom netinst is http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers or http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/hackdi/ or http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianCustomCD or see <sarge uni> |
| 20:12.09 | furby | ooh, thanks :-) |
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| 20:12.13 | monaco | i'm kinda old linux user; but linux evolves so fast that I become newbie again every 6 months |
| 20:12.32 | onetinsoldier | lol monaco |
| 20:12.55 | monaco | please, I need some help with modprobe, any semi-expert around? |
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| 20:13.50 | bela | monaco: what is the question on modprobe; it load or remove a module |
| 20:13.57 | onetinsoldier | monaco: probably best if yo just state the problem/what' happening |
| 20:13.58 | abrotman | !ask |
| 20:13.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 20:14.35 | abrotman | !status |
| 20:14.35 | dpkg | Since Thu Apr 27 17:56:57 2006, there have been 147 modifications, 5108 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 1724 commands. I have been awake for 16d 2h 17m 38s this session, and currently reference 35959 factoids. I'm using about 16200 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 2343.34/116.48 child 0.02/0.01 |
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| 20:15.03 | monaco | sure, that's it |
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| 20:15.53 | monaco | the problem: I have special commands in /etc/modprobe.d/foo; it works when I call modeprobe foo; however, it seems that the file is ignored on boot. why? |
| 20:16.01 | monaco | bela: that's it |
| 20:16.14 | abrotman | /etc/modutils/actions ? |
| 20:16.14 | bela | I am using the irc via xchat, it is ok, but the http is not running I don't know what the administrator did, the ping is correct to any site, the 80 port is probably close, another way, |
| 20:16.52 | monaco | abrotman /etc/modprobe.d/foo (2.6 kernel); isn't it read on boot? |
| 20:17.12 | abrotman | monaco: i've been using /etc/modutils/actions |
| 20:17.28 | abrotman | monaco: wait .. i use that to order the modules |
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| 20:17.32 | monaco | abrotman, isnt't modutils for 2.4? |
| 20:17.45 | abrotman | hey .. if it works .. don't mess with it! :) |
| 20:18.06 | onetinsoldier | i have kind of a similar problem. it seems like my /etc/modules is being ignored on boot! |
| 20:18.18 | monaco | abrotman, unfortunately, it's not working for me :-( too-new hardware |
| 20:18.21 | abrotman | !tell lexiyntax about your factoids |
| 20:18.38 | abrotman | monaco: i don't know what your hardware has to do with what file is used to control modules loading |
| 20:18.58 | monaco | onetinsoldier, /etc/modules works for me, but the extra config in modprobe.d/foo do not |
| 20:19.06 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 20:19.24 | seb- | abrotman: if i do a sid backport of a kernel+udev can i easily uninstall both later? |
| 20:19.32 | bela | monaco: I created more than 8 devices for loop ( the default) to mount the whole sarge distro, 16 iso CD, so I loaded the module like this modprobe loop max_loop=25 |
| 20:19.33 | monaco | abrotman: I mean, I have to use 2.6, and it seems that 2.6 ignores /etc/modutils (at least that's what google says) |
| 20:19.35 | abrotman | as long as you make a package out of it |
| 20:19.49 | abrotman | monaco: is this for module options .. or for module order? |
| 20:19.57 | seb- | abrotman: i can just install a new kernel sure...it is the udev UPGRADE that i'm afraid of |
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| 20:20.17 | abrotman | seb-: what's the worst that happens .. it doesn't boot :) |
| 20:20.20 | bela | and then I created in /etc/rc2.d a script to mount it automatically. |
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| 20:20.42 | monaco | abrotman, intel ipw3945 netowrk driver requsires me to run a script for loading firmware; that's whey I use a install line in modprobe.d/ipw3945 |
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| 20:21.00 | kbrooks | is e.g. a woody -> etch upgrade supported? |
| 20:21.17 | seb- | kbrooks: i did it! |
| 20:21.24 | monaco | modeprobe.d/foo works if I issue on command-line; not on boot though |
| 20:21.25 | kbrooks | i mean |
| 20:21.26 | abrotman | monaco: so .. i think .. that if you use /etc/modutils/actions .. pre-install <driver> <run script> |
| 20:21.42 | kbrooks | woody: change sources.list to point to etch |
| 20:21.43 | monaco | I will try that than |
| 20:21.59 | kbrooks | apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:22.01 | abrotman | kbrooks: i'm not sure .. but you could try it and let us know :) |
| 20:22.15 | edison | Help, i have lilo and when i boot i want to put kernel parameters like hdc=ide-scsi and root=/dev/hdd3 does i need to put an `,' between the parameters |
| 20:22.16 | kbrooks | abrotman: it's a question :-) |
| 20:22.21 | abrotman | kbrooks: i know .. |
| 20:22.27 | monaco | abrotman, I have no choice rather than rebooting to try it out, see you later; thanks |
| 20:22.35 | abrotman | monaco: if it doesn't .. come back |
| 20:22.52 | edison | Help, i have lilo and when i boot i want to put kernel parameters like hdc=ide-scsi and root=/dev/hdd3 does i need to put an `,' between the parameters ? |
| 20:22.55 | kbrooks | abrotman: the most famous (tm) debian derivative, ubuntu, doesnt suppport this type of upgrade |
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| 20:23.25 | seb- | krooks: so don't use it |
| 20:23.38 | abrotman | kbrooks: so whine to #ubuntu |
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| 20:24.18 | kbrooks | grrr. |
| 20:24.52 | seb- | kbrooks: tell them you want your money back |
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| 20:25.34 | holdenSK | seb-: lol :) |
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| 20:25.41 | kbrooks | seb-: someone was trying to DCC CHAT me\ |
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| 20:25.47 | kbrooks | i rejected the offer |
| 20:25.55 | rudolph | i've compiled a kernel for my T23 and after reboot there is the message: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) can anybody help me? |
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| 20:26.02 | kbrooks | i just set a fake ip in my dcc settings |
| 20:26.13 | startxwhite | has anyone here used sarge's /boot/config-2.6.-3-386 as a template to compile 2.6.15 (or higher) ? |
| 20:26.21 | startxwhite | (1) ln -s linux-2.6.16.16 linux (2) cp config-2.6.8-3-386 linux (3) make oldconfig that is what i have done so far. is that ok? |
| 20:26.48 | abrotman | make oldconfig ? |
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| 20:27.54 | onetinsoldier | rudolph... sounds like it's not finding your linux partitions. did you make /boot a 'bootable' partition type? |
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| 20:28.25 | rudolph | yes i'm now using the standard kernel |
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| 20:28.43 | rudolph | but it takes about 3 minutes to boot |
| 20:29.15 | seb- | i dont get why people compile their own kernels after modules were invented |
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| 20:29.16 | startxwhite | abrotman: is taht wrong? |
| 20:29.18 | onetinsoldier | rudolph: i don't know how to help much really. i'm really rusty with linux. i'm thinking tho |
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| 20:29.44 | rudolph | ok |
| 20:30.00 | abrotman | startxwhite: probably not .. but make oldconfig might be easier for you |
| 20:30.06 | abrotman | !tell startxwhite about kp |
| 20:30.29 | edison | Help, i have lilo and when i boot i want to put kernel parameters like hdc=ide-scsi and root=/dev/hdd3 does i need to put an `,' between the parameters or space or ; ? |
| 20:30.39 | abrotman | no |
| 20:30.41 | abrotman | space |
| 20:30.48 | sid | edison: If you switch to grub I can tell you what to do. |
| 20:31.08 | sid | edison: man lilo, check /etc/lilo.conf ? or /boot/lilo/lilo.conf I'm not sure |
| 20:31.11 | abrotman | his question would still be the same |
| 20:31.23 | startxwhite | abrotman: i do not understand your last message |
| 20:31.29 | abrotman | startxwhite: which one? |
| 20:31.33 | onetinsoldier | rudolph: how did you make and set up your linux partitions? is linux the only os yu have installed on your T23? what is a T23? hehe |
| 20:31.46 | startxwhite | probably not .. but make oldconfig might be easier for you |
| 20:32.09 | rudolph | onetinsoldier, IBM Thinkpad T23 |
| 20:32.10 | abrotman | startxwhite: i'm saying ..probably nothign wrong with the way you've started .. but make oldconfig might be easier |
| 20:32.28 | onetinsoldier | rudolph... ah, ok. cool |
| 20:33.10 | edison | sid is the lilo boot prompt like "lilo: kernel-xxx root=/dev/hdd3 hdc=ide-scsi" i want to overwrite the setting of lilo.conf |
| 20:33.36 | abrotman | edison: why? |
| 20:33.42 | rudolph | no, hda1: windows; hda2:root ; hda5:swap ; hda6:home |
| 20:34.11 | tombo | Hi all. Am new to debian, can anyone tell me how to install nvidia driver please? |
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| 20:34.16 | edison | and i try with space and i'm not shure if the kernel get the parameter hdc=ide-scsi |
| 20:34.23 | asg | tombo: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 20:34.34 | startxwhite | abrotman: but make oldconfig is exactly what i did |
| 20:34.46 | onetinsoldier | rudolph: so did you install lilo or grub? |
| 20:34.49 | abrotman | startxwhite: eh .. i think i misread then |
| 20:35.04 | rudolph | onetinsoldier: grub |
| 20:35.08 | onetinsoldier | cool |
| 20:35.21 | chealer9 | !tell tombo about ngd |
| 20:35.23 | tombo | asg: you mean I just type that in terminal? |
| 20:35.36 | abrotman | startxwhite: i guess you just had some extra steps .. no big deal |
| 20:35.41 | asg | tombo: in your irc client. Our bot will give you the details |
| 20:36.52 | tombo | asg; How does that work? |
| 20:36.53 | startxwhite | abrotman: i am a newbie and this is the first time i *must* compile a kernel. ther is no 2.6.15 or superior precompiled for debian sarge so i have to do it from source |
| 20:37.05 | asg | !tell tombo about nvidia one-liner |
| 20:37.07 | onetinsoldier | rudolph: i don't really now how to help other than to tell you your new kernel is not finding the partition/filesystem so that it can boot up from it |
| 20:37.18 | abrotman | !tell startxwhite about backports |
| 20:37.25 | abrotman | startxwhite: a 2.6.15 is at the backports.org site |
| 20:37.51 | onetinsoldier | rudolph: ou might ask your question again tho and see if somone else can take a stab at it |
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| 20:38.22 | startxwhite | abrotman: i have installed sarge on a P133 with NO internet access, no nic, no usb backports is not an option |
| 20:38.54 | asg | startxwhite: sure it is, sneakernet is still alive and well |
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| 20:39.09 | abrotman | startxwhite: how did you install .. and why no internet? |
| 20:39.14 | E-bola | Shouldnt there be kernel-headers for the 2.6.15 debian kernel? |
| 20:39.17 | E-bola | i cant find them anywhere |
| 20:39.45 | pinky | How do I disable dmix? |
| 20:39.46 | abrotman | linux-headers |
| 20:40.03 | rudolph | okay thanks |
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| 20:40.40 | E-bola | ahh perfect |
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| 20:40.43 | E-bola | thanks abrotman |
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| 20:41.06 | E-bola | wonder why they started calling it linux-* isntaid of kernel-* |
| 20:41.21 | asg | E-bola: because debian now supports more than the linux kernel |
| 20:41.40 | lamp_ | 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 070 068 006 Pre-fail Always 181304739 I run smartctl -A /dev/hda and i think there is something wrong with my hard disk |
| 20:41.44 | SonnyBurnett | is there a way to make gkrellm stay sticked in the desktop? as a gdesklet ? |
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| 20:41.54 | E-bola | asg: more than the linux kernel? |
| 20:41.58 | E-bola | what do u mean? |
| 20:42.08 | asg | E-bola: kfreebsd, Debian/Solaris, Hurd |
| 20:42.25 | marco13185 | how do I remove kde and everything else it installed (all the programs that came with it) |
| 20:42.26 | rockstar_ | asg: There's a kfreebsd? |
| 20:42.28 | E-bola | hehe ok. Cool for debian :) |
| 20:42.29 | asg | rockstar_: yes |
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| 20:42.34 | marco13185 | removing just kde doesn't really do anything |
| 20:42.35 | asg | rockstar_: odd combo but there is one |
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| 20:42.46 | rockstar_ | marco13185: Did you use aptitude to install it? |
| 20:43.05 | abrotman | !remove kde |
| 20:43.05 | dpkg | well, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs kdelibs-bin (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 20:43.09 | asg | good idea |
| 20:43.19 | marco13185 | abrotman, <3 |
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| 20:43.28 | marco13185 | rockstar_, I apt-got it |
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| 20:43.59 | marco13185 | abrotman, will that leave the qt library behind though? |
| 20:44.06 | abrotman | it should |
| 20:44.16 | abrotman | but installing all of kde to get libqt .. seems silly |
| 20:44.33 | marco13185 | abrotman, and will kde based apps work without kde installed? |
| 20:44.45 | abrotman | depends on the app huh |
| 20:44.51 | marco13185 | like amarok |
| 20:44.58 | abrotman | !depends amarok sarge |
| 20:45.00 | dpkg | amarok: depends on amarok-engines | amarok-engine, kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-4.0.2), libaudio2, libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.5-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.4.1-3), libice6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libmysqlclient12, libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.8rel), libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3), libsm6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.1.6), libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1), libtag1 (>= 1.3.1), libtunepimp2 (>= 0.3.0), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), ... |
| 20:45.10 | marco13185 | heh, I need the libs |
| 20:45.11 | startxwhite | abrotman: i installed sarge on my P133 laptop using the sarge CD. the P133 laptop has NO usb, no buiilt-in nic and no access to the internet. it has 2 pcmcia slots but can not use them with sarge's 2.6.8 because my laptop has a topic95 bridge which is affected by the bug cs: pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power |
| 20:45.23 | startxwhite | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/powerbugs.html |
| 20:45.24 | acetech | where can i download the debian kernel source? |
| 20:45.27 | abrotman | startxwhite: cute |
| 20:45.35 | asg | startxwhite: then get the necessary packages from backports, burn them to a CD, and dpkg -i them |
| 20:45.41 | abrotman | !tell startxwhite about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 20:45.55 | two|face | so I put vncserver on both my debian boxes but I cant login, I get connection refused |
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| 20:46.44 | xomhau | re hi |
| 20:46.48 | startxwhite | asg: i do not have a burner |
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| 20:46.51 | xomhau | how to check key package? |
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| 20:46.58 | abrotman | xomhau: check what? |
| 20:46.58 | asg | startxwhite: then get floppies and use split(1) |
| 20:47.09 | two|face | any ideas on why my connection is refused |
| 20:47.28 | asg | two|face: /msg dpkg open ports (is it listening?) |
| 20:47.35 | startxwhite | asg: i would need dozens of floppies and it is not practical |
| 20:48.28 | xomhau | abrotman: check sign |
| 20:48.35 | asg | startxwhite: wtf do you think we did in the 80s? Not optimal, true, but practical if that's all you have. |
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| 20:48.56 | two|face | asg: yes its listening I checked |
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| 20:49.04 | chealer9 | acetech: from a Debian repository |
| 20:49.16 | abrotman | xomhau: check WHAT? |
| 20:49.20 | two|face | I can remote out into my windows boxes fine |
| 20:49.32 | abrotman | xomhau: be a bit more explicit |
| 20:49.39 | MJ | Any tips on how to install the amd64 toolchain on a i386-debian based Xeon system (running a em64t kernel)? |
| 20:49.57 | MJ | I am trying to compile a kernel module for it |
| 20:50.06 | MJ | Also see https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html |
| 20:50.16 | startxwhite | asg: i can boot slax live distro 2.6.16 on the P133 laptop and get an internet connection |
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| 20:50.35 | MJ | (the Which kernel to use? section) |
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| 20:51.26 | dabaR | Hey. If I connect through a router, I can get to the Net. If I connect to a cable modem, using DHCP, I can get a proper IP address, but can not resolve DNS. Also, if I try pinging by IP address, I get an error message: connect: network is unreachable. How can I fix this? |
| 20:51.27 | asg | startxwhite: then boot that, use it to download the package onto the Debian partition after you mount it |
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| 20:51.55 | startxwhite | asg: i only have 200 mb of space on the laptop |
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| 20:52.13 | asg | startxwhite: the kernel deb will not be >200 mb |
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| 20:52.48 | xomhau | abrotman: how to verify signatures a package? sorry , my english not well |
| 20:53.04 | startxwhite | asg: ok but what about the dependencies and sources.list? |
| 20:53.06 | abrotman | debsums .. i think is what you mean |
| 20:53.08 | abrotman | !apt-key |
| 20:53.17 | abrotman | eh .. stupid bot |
| 20:53.30 | xomhau | i installed some packages with bad signatures, may be :( |
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| 20:53.42 | asg | startxwhite: the dependances for a kernel will not exceed that. The sources.list for any non-moronic system will be no more than three lines of ascii text. |
| 20:53.54 | onetinsoldier | my mouse is not workingon bootup.i have to modprobe mousedev and hid and then start up gpm. i put mousedev and hid into /etc/modules but no change. any ideas anyone? |
| 20:55.20 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 20:55.21 | dpkg | from memory, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
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| 20:56.05 | Luiz2 | please |
| 20:56.06 | gnufan | xomhau: or are you looking for dpkg-sig. What is wrong, why are you checking? |
| 20:56.16 | Luiz2 | How to install ATI Drivers on Debian: |
| 20:56.21 | Luiz2 | ? |
| 20:56.34 | E-bola | abrotman: apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 Shouldnt that command work? |
| 20:56.36 | abrotman | !ati |
| 20:56.37 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt |
| 20:56.41 | E-bola | i get returned: E: Unable to find a source package for linux-2.6 |
| 20:56.43 | abrotman | E-bola: to do what? |
| 20:56.48 | abrotman | no |
| 20:56.50 | E-bola | get the kernel source |
| 20:56.55 | abrotman | apt-get install linux-source-<blah |
| 20:56.56 | abrotman | > |
| 20:57.02 | E-bola | hmm ok |
| 20:57.04 | E-bola | more syntax changed |
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| 20:57.43 | gnufan | E-bola: no lots of kernel packages get made from the same source - so the names are different |
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| 20:57.56 | Luiz2 | get kernel source |
| 20:58.01 | Luiz2 | and uses .run installer? |
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| 20:58.23 | abrotman | !tell Luiz2 about ati |
| 20:58.31 | Luiz2 | !tell ati |
| 20:58.32 | E-bola | http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/loop-aes/#prepare_the_system |
| 20:58.39 | E-bola | im trying to follow that guide to get loop-aes working |
| 20:58.45 | abrotman | !es |
| 20:58.45 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:59.00 | E-bola | but replacing the 2.6.8 kernel they use with my own 2.6.15-1 is proving harder than u would think |
| 20:59.07 | Luiz2 | !tell ATI |
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| 20:59.27 | abrotman | !u |
| 20:59.27 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 20:59.29 | abrotman | !ati |
| 20:59.30 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt |
| 20:59.33 | abrotman | READ |
| 20:59.59 | war92 | In Debian, say I want to disable the sysstat cron entry in /etc/cron.daily/sysstat, what is the `proper` debian way to do this? is there one or do I just remove the file? |
| 21:00.17 | abrotman | war92: you could just -x it .. |
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| 21:00.38 | abrotman | war92: erm .. chmod -x :) |
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| 21:01.04 | war92 | k |
| 21:01.36 | E-bola | abrotman: so the equal for my 2.6.15-1 of apt-get source kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp would be apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 |
| 21:01.37 | E-bola | ? |
| 21:01.49 | abrotman | E-bola: sure |
| 21:01.51 | E-bola | cuz it doesnt apear to unpack anything |
| 21:01.56 | E-bola | like the original cmd does |
| 21:02.06 | abrotman | E-bola: look in /usr/src/ |
| 21:02.11 | E-bola | i am |
| 21:02.29 | E-bola | there's a kernel-image-2.6.8-i386-2.6.8 dir |
| 21:03.15 | E-bola | there's also kernel-source-2.6.8 and linux-source-2.6.15 dirs |
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| 21:04.15 | Groundy | can anyone help me track down a tex upgrade fault - it's failing to configure after unpacking, fmtutil is saying: 'Fatal format file error; I'm stymied', |
| 21:04.38 | abrotman | check the bts |
| 21:04.54 | Groundy | I have, there's nothing I can find |
| 21:05.07 | Groundy | http://lists.debian.org/debian-tetex-maint/2005/04/msg00147.html mentions my problem, |
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| 21:05.24 | Groundy | but that was a year ago, so it _must_ have been fixed by now |
| 21:05.51 | onetinsoldier | E-bola: why not try dpkg -L linux-source-2.6.15 |
| 21:05.54 | monaco | Folks, /etc/modprobe.d/foo seems not be read on boot; what to do? |
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| 21:06.21 | E-bola | onetinsoldier: its already installed |
| 21:06.25 | monaco | abrotman, modutils didn't work with 2.6 kernel... |
| 21:06.26 | E-bola | i just dont see it in /usr/src |
| 21:06.34 | abrotman | monaco: hrm .. works for me |
| 21:06.50 | monaco | abrotman, are you using etch? |
| 21:06.57 | Groundy | here's a recent comment on the problem http://lists.debian.org/debian-tetex-maint/2006/04/msg00167.html |
| 21:07.03 | onetinsoldier | E-bola: i just did a apt-get install of it too because i need to compile my own kernel. then i did the command i suggested... looks like it gives you... /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2 |
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| 21:07.36 | vincint | algum brasileiro??? preciso de ajuda |
| 21:07.40 | asg | !br |
| 21:07.41 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 21:07.43 | asg | vincint: ^^ |
| 21:07.44 | monaco | abrotman, I found this on the web "Modprobe has changed between 2.4 and 2.6. The old information my /etc/modutils and /etc/modules.conf is not read under 2.6" http://www.disaggregate.com/blog/technicalweblog/archives/000010.html |
| 21:07.50 | vincint | ok |
| 21:07.51 | E-bola | onetinsoldier: yes |
| 21:07.55 | E-bola | i got that too |
| 21:08.03 | onetinsoldier | that not what you were looking for? sorry |
| 21:08.37 | E-bola | acording to my guide, i need a debian/rules file |
| 21:08.41 | E-bola | inside the dir i seem to be missing |
| 21:08.47 | onetinsoldier | oh |
| 21:08.48 | E-bola | the kernel-image-2.6.8 have this file |
| 21:08.57 | Groundy | seems that #362075 says, purge and reinstall xmltex |
| 21:09.18 | abrotman | monaco: man modprobe should tell you where to go .. i guess .. but like i said .. it seems to work for me |
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| 21:10.07 | monaco | Does anyone know how to make /etc/modprobe.d/* be read on boot with a 2.6 kernel (etch)? I read the man's, but nothing yet. Any missing kernel option? |
| 21:10.32 | Groundy | monaco: doesn't it happen by default? |
| 21:11.32 | aredhel | monaco, is the firmware your are tring to load on a filesystem that is not mounted yet? |
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| 21:11.36 | monaco | Groundy, I think it should, but it's not. Only after boot, when I run modprobe foo it works; not after boot. |
| 21:11.50 | protonchris | monaco: did you run update-modules after you changed /etc/modprobe.d/* ? |
| 21:12.05 | monaco | aredhel, modeprobe foo works; it does not work automatically on boot thoguh |
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| 21:12.37 | monaco | protonchris, should I? isn't it just for modutils (2.4 way of doing things?) |
| 21:12.47 | Groundy | monaco: normally I put stuff in /etc/modules |
| 21:12.48 | aredhel | monaco, right and on boot mountall happens after modprobe I think |
| 21:13.14 | Groundy | monaco: ahh, modprobe.d is only for modprobe _options_ |
| 21:13.24 | Groundy | it's not for auto probing on boot |
| 21:13.35 | Groundy | (well, it wasn't in 2.4 afaik) |
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| 21:13.45 | onetinsoldier | i see.. you wanting to use the 'kernel-package' package? |
| 21:13.52 | protonchris | monaco: your right. |
| 21:13.52 | monaco | Groundy, I have module-foo in /etc/modules; but my module requires me to run a firmware-loading scriopt in modprobe.d |
| 21:14.02 | Groundy | if you want something to modprobe on boot add it to /etc/modules? |
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| 21:14.10 | Groundy | okay, |
| 21:14.13 | onetinsoldier | E-bola? are you wanting to use the 'kernel-package' package? |
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| 21:14.54 | onetinsoldier | my mouse is not workingon bootup.i have to modprobe mousedev and hid and then start up gpm. i put mousedev and hid into /etc/modules but no change. any ideas anyone? |
| 21:14.55 | jonaskoelker | Hi. I'm doing an hd-media installation of debian testing. It currently fails at "Installing the base system", saying "Debootstrap Error \n Failed to determine the codename for the release" |
| 21:14.58 | Groundy | monaco: you mean you need to run some shell script before the modprobe? |
| 21:15.04 | E-bola | onetinsoldier: i think i missed the first part of the page |
| 21:15.09 | E-bola | it says the new way to do this |
| 21:15.11 | jonaskoelker | .. what can I do about that? |
| 21:15.17 | E-bola | is using the module-assistant |
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| 21:15.21 | E-bola | seems 10x easier |
| 21:15.29 | E-bola | its running atm, i hope it works |
| 21:15.39 | monaco | Groundy, just after, actually; the module loads, then the scripts upload the firmware; the module INSTALL file tells so. |
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| 21:15.59 | onetinsoldier | E-bola: roger.. i'l have to look at that! i've use the kernel-package a long time ago. |
| 21:16.04 | monaco | Groundy, it suggest to use modeprobe.d; it works. but only if I call by hand |
| 21:16.09 | E-bola | wow |
| 21:16.14 | E-bola | module-assistant is super cool |
| 21:16.18 | E-bola | never used it before :) |
| 21:16.20 | monaco | Groundy, I thought that it would work also on boot |
| 21:16.23 | Groundy | what's in the file you're adding to modprobe.d? |
| 21:16.57 | monaco | install module-foo /sbin/modeprobe --ignore-intall; firmware_upload.sh |
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| 21:17.09 | monaco | modeprobe module-foo works |
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| 21:17.10 | E-bola | hmmm it fails :/ |
| 21:17.15 | Groundy | maybe path? |
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| 21:17.46 | Groundy | stick the full path to fireware_upload.sh in the file |
| 21:17.49 | monaco | do you think there can be a different path if I call by hand or on boot? |
| 21:17.55 | acetech | what is the most current version of the kernel? |
| 21:18.01 | monaco | well, I'll try full path |
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| 21:18.11 | Groundy | monaco: yes, the PATH variable is probably different, |
| 21:18.17 | asg | acetech: kernel.org |
| 21:18.18 | Groundy | where's the firmware_upload.sh script? |
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| 21:18.33 | monaco | Groundy, rebooting to test PATH then; see ya when back from boot |
| 21:18.37 | monaco | Groundy, /sbin |
| 21:18.45 | acetech | asg: when i go there it shows the most current stable kernel but it is only a patch? |
| 21:18.46 | Groundy | monaco: and where's it's data? |
| 21:18.55 | Groundy | monaco: i.e. where are the firmware data files? |
| 21:18.56 | monaco | /lib/firmware |
| 21:18.59 | acetech | asg: is that the one i should download? |
| 21:19.09 | asg | acetech: it depends on what you are trying to do |
| 21:19.11 | Groundy | okay, and that's all mounted when the module loads? |
| 21:19.39 | acetech | asg: i just want to compile the most kernel, preferably something that has patches on it already |
| 21:19.40 | monaco | Groundy, i have only one partition. Anyway, is there any log of modules loading? |
| 21:19.45 | jonaskoelker | ...okay, seeing as no one has answered my question, where can I poke a bloke who knows about this in the eye? IOW, where can I get help? |
| 21:19.56 | Groundy | monaco: not sure, probably just /var/log/somewhere |
| 21:20.03 | asg | acetech: which patches? There are thousands of non-official kernel patches. |
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| 21:20.27 | monaco | Groundy, I tried messages, syslog.... but... well, I'm gonna try PATH and be back after reboot. |
| 21:20.29 | acetech | asg: in general just a debian patches kernel for security updates and stuff |
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| 21:20.35 | Groundy | monaco: dmesg if you're lucky |
| 21:20.41 | Groundy | monaco: cool |
| 21:20.48 | monaco | Groundy, sure! see you soon |
| 21:21.09 | E-bola | Stuff i remove inside /usr/src cant make my system unbootable right? |
| 21:21.18 | E-bola | i mean its not required for anything besides creating new stuff? |
| 21:21.22 | Groundy | E-bola: correct |
| 21:21.27 | E-bola | ok, just making sure :) |
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| 21:21.41 | Groundy | E-bola: assuming you did a 'standard' install by copying the kernel to /boot |
| 21:21.49 | Groundy | E-bola: and the modules to /lib/modules/ etc |
| 21:21.51 | EvilSporkMan | what's the best way to get nvidia-glx on testing at the moment? |
| 21:21.53 | asg | acetech: then get the kernel-source-* or linux-source-* package depending on which version of Debian you are running |
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| 21:22.06 | acetech | asg: i am running etch |
| 21:22.11 | Groundy | E-bola: or you used the kernel-installer script |
| 21:22.21 | asg | acetech: apt-cache search kernel-source ; apt-cache search linux-source |
| 21:22.38 | owenh | I still can't get Debian to install. I'm getting md5sum errors, but the disc is good. amd64, 31r0a, DVD |
| 21:22.52 | asg | owenh: try #debian-amd64 |
| 21:22.53 | acetech | asg: it is 2.6.15 which is unstable |
| 21:22.57 | Groundy | owenh: maybe it's the hardware in the pc you're installing to :-) |
| 21:23.01 | E-bola | k /usr/src cleared completely |
| 21:23.03 | owenh | asg: I have; I'll try again, though. |
| 21:23.03 | E-bola | trying again |
| 21:23.10 | E-bola | Shame its so hard getting loop-aes working |
| 21:23.28 | owenh | Groundy: Thanks, thanks! Very helpful! Except that I've never had problems with Plextors... |
| 21:23.50 | Groundy | owenh: I mean maybe it's the hardware in the PC :-P not the cd, |
| 21:24.30 | asg | acetech: what do you mean that 2.6.15 is unstable? |
| 21:24.39 | owenh | Groundy: Uh, you mean something other than the DVD or DVD drive? |
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| 21:24.53 | onetinsoldier | my mouse is not workingon bootup.i have to modprobe mousedev and hid and then start up gpm. i put mousedev and hid into /etc/modules but no change. any ideas anyone? |
| 21:24.54 | Groundy | owenh: are you buring and installing on the same pc? |
| 21:25.01 | acetech | asg: odd numbers at the end indicate it is unstable |
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| 21:25.02 | owenh | Groundy: Yes. |
| 21:25.14 | Groundy | owenh: blegh, then it's probably not the hardware :-) |
| 21:25.19 | owenh | Groundy: DVD tests fine with dvdisaster on Linux running on same PC. |
| 21:25.28 | Groundy | owenh: have you checked the md5 of the burnt cd? |
| 21:25.44 | owenh | Groundy: Checks fine in running Linux, but fails integrity check in installer. |
| 21:25.54 | asg | acetech: the 2.6.x series has changed the meaning of the numbering. Also, etch isn't stable but testing. Finally, it seems that every 2.6.x kernel that comes out is worse than the last. |
| 21:25.54 | Groundy | wierd, |
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| 21:26.32 | owenh | Groundy: I've tried disabling dma and limiting memory to 512M (1G installed). |
| 21:27.33 | owenh | Groundy: Although not both at the same time... |
| 21:28.23 | Groundy | owenh: do those settings make such a difference these days? |
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| 21:28.57 | onetinsoldier | asg: well what's the best 2.6.x kernel? i want to compile a kernel. should i just stick with 2.4.27? right now my 2.4.27 kernel takes a crap on meif i try to start kdm or do a startx. i have yet to get x-windows going... arrghh. |
| 21:29.03 | owenh | Groundy: Not usually |
| 21:29.07 | Groundy | owenh: the iso might be dud, but unlikely |
| 21:29.10 | brick | onetinsoldier, just get the latest one |
| 21:29.25 | brick | i would be careful about blaming the kernel for X not working, though... |
| 21:29.42 | owenh | Groundy: I've tested the iso by downloading it again (to the same file) with torrent. I've also checked the md5sum of the iso. |
| 21:29.44 | asg | onetinsoldier: it depends on what you are using it for. |
| 21:29.48 | Groundy | owenh: is it a particluar file, or all of them? |
| 21:29.57 | asg | brick: unless he has some non-free nvidia/ati crap causing issues |
| 21:30.02 | E-bola | Are anybody willing to help my get loop-aes installed? |
| 21:30.02 | jonaskoelker | ... might by issue be that I'm using the netinst CD image? |
| 21:30.09 | E-bola | doesnt seem to work with module assistant |
| 21:30.14 | onetinsoldier | brick... ok. thanks. i'm not really blaming the kernel. but my pre-compiled debian kernel takes a crap when trying to startx |
| 21:30.16 | E-bola | acording to http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/loop-aes/#prepare_the_system |
| 21:30.17 | Groundy | I assume the md5 of the cd matches the md5 of the file, which matches the md5 published on the website |
| 21:30.34 | asg | E-bola: what debian version are you running? |
| 21:30.40 | E-bola | asg: 3.1 sarge |
| 21:30.46 | brick | onetinsoldier, no idea what you mean about crap, but i haven't used a stock kernel in many years |
| 21:30.50 | E-bola | with a 2.6.15-1 kernel from unstable |
| 21:30.51 | owenh | Groundy: It seems to be all of them; the installer never gets past the first file it checks on the integrity check and the "load installer components" step. |
| 21:30.59 | asg | E-bola: then that's probably why it isn't working |
| 21:31.21 | E-bola | whats making it incompatible? |
| 21:31.24 | E-bola | that im using a newer kernel? |
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| 21:31.35 | asg | E-bola: the fact that you took an unstable package and shoehorned it into a stable one |
| 21:32.03 | owenh | Groundy: I remember now that I saw (when I hit Ctrl+Alt+F4) some I/O errors with the DVD drive... |
| 21:32.23 | E-bola | Mmm well the moduleassistant error is rather odd: I do: module-assistant auto-install loop-aes And it tells me: The source tarball could not be found! |
| 21:32.31 | Groundy | owenh: sounds like the installer can't read the dvd properly for some reason |
| 21:32.34 | E-bola | but i can see the tarball in the /usr/src dir |
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| 21:32.53 | asg | E-bola: because sarge doesn't have sources for loop-aes for a 2.6.15 kernel |
| 21:33.09 | E-bola | asg: ohhh ok, what to then? |
| 21:33.11 | owenh | Groundy: Exactly, but why? Where is the magic abc=xyz that fixes it all?! :) |
| 21:33.20 | onetinsoldier | brick: printing eip ..ect, Oops: 0000 ...ect, Call Trace: [chrdev_open+94/112] ..ect hehe |
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| 21:33.37 | brick | onetinsoldier, wow, never seen that stuff |
| 21:33.41 | brick | try another video driver |
| 21:33.48 | Groundy | E-bola: you shouldn't be using module-assistant: "note: this is old. for post-sarge distros, there is package for the modules." |
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| 21:34.00 | asg | E-bola: don't use unstable packages on stable. If you insist on using a 2.6.15 kernel on stable, compile one from source |
| 21:34.02 | Groundy | E-bola: you should just be installing the pre-built package |
| 21:34.10 | onetinsoldier | the screen goes blank and all i cad do is reboot. it's a kernel crash |
| 21:34.17 | onetinsoldier | *can |
| 21:34.20 | E-bola | groundy: what package would that be? |
| 21:34.32 | Groundy | owenh: have you tried running md5sum from the kernel started by the installer? |
| 21:34.35 | Groundy | E-bola: nafc |
| 21:34.39 | brick | onetinsoldier, i hereby encourage you to use a modern kernel |
| 21:35.07 | E-bola | groundy: mmmmh? |
| 21:35.09 | owenh | Groundy: No; how do I do that? Drop to shell from installer? |
| 21:35.27 | abrotman | ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 21:35.28 | abrotman | !ig |
| 21:35.28 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 21:35.29 | Groundy | owenh: yea, or ctrl-alt-f2 should do the trick |
| 21:35.46 | Groundy | owenh: just to prove to yourself that the installer's drivers are good |
| 21:35.53 | owenh | Oh, yeah, guess that would work (duh) |
| 21:35.59 | owenh | Okay, I'll try that now. |
| 21:36.04 | E-bola | ohh i found it |
| 21:36.07 | E-bola | cool |
| 21:36.08 | owenh | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.14 | abrotman | owenh: is this for a workstation? and do you have broadband? |
| 21:36.18 | abrotman | bah .. fucking idiot |
| 21:36.30 | abrotman | he's using an out of date installer anyways |
| 21:36.34 | onetinsoldier | brick: roger. well, before installing etch i read that beta2 was supposed to install a 2.6 kernel. but after installing it i had a 2.4.27 kernel. I AM going to compile my own kernel very soon, 2.6.15. i'm a little scared though because i am really rusty with linux right now. i haven't used it in years. |
| 21:36.50 | abrotman | i believe beta2 is broken |
| 21:36.54 | brick | onetinsoldier, stick around here might help... but compiling the kernel is pretty easy |
| 21:37.17 | moyix | er, this may sound like a weird claim, but I swear I've been "losing" keystrokes recently--when I'm typing quickly a few just don't make it |
| 21:37.20 | brick | onetinsoldier, copy your old .config into the new kernel dir and run 'make oldconfig', then hit return a bazillion times, then 'make menuconfig' or whichever option you prefer to tweak the settings |
| 21:37.28 | abrotman | moyix: broken keyboard? |
| 21:37.42 | abrotman | !tell onetinsoldier about kp |
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| 21:37.46 | brick | moyix, i've had that happen under heavy disk load - also sporadic letter doubling |
| 21:37.47 | moyix | abrotman: suppose it's possible, but it wasn't happening under XP just a week or so ago |
| 21:37.58 | abrotman | moyix: grab another keyboard? |
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| 21:38.09 | moyix | abrotman, aye, I'll try that... |
| 21:38.35 | onetinsoldier | brick: yeah. i here you. i'll stick around. and yeah, compiling a kernel isn;t too awful hard. i know my hardware. built the comp myself. but still, it's not exactly the easiest thing in the world when you feel like a newbie again, hehe. |
| 21:39.14 | brick | onetinsoldier, only one way to deal with that... |
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| 21:39.53 | onetinsoldier | abrotman: thanks. when i used debian years ago i did use 'kernel-package'!! and after being in here for a whilei was reminded of it and i installed it several minutes ago! thx |
| 21:40.05 | abrotman | ok |
| 21:40.09 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 21:40.19 | onetinsoldier | i will use again for sure.. it's nice! |
| 21:40.26 | E-bola | groundy: I installed the package made for 2.6.15-1 now, but when i try to load the module i get Invalid module format |
| 21:40.26 | E-bola | ? |
| 21:41.02 | onetinsoldier | brick: yes? and that's to... go for it? lol |
| 21:41.28 | onetinsoldier | or should i say... just do it |
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| 21:42.56 | pettern | is there any way to find the installation date of debian? |
| 21:43.15 | Tallu | Oh, the decisions. To go with the lovely and silent 350mhz server, or to go for loads of more ram and 1,5ghz. and triple the noise. |
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| 21:43.51 | asg | Tallu: ram shouldn't increase the noise |
| 21:43.55 | Doctor | Tallu: you're in debian, the slient server is a viable option, if this was gentoo.... |
| 21:43.57 | moyix | pettern: you could try checking the timestamp on some file created by the installer, like /root/install-report.template |
| 21:44.06 | onetinsoldier | brick: i should use 'oldconfig' for going from a 2.4 to 2.6 kernel should i? it doesn't really matter. i plan on doing it be reading what the driver in the kernel are for and doing it completely from scratch for my first time. when i build 2.6 kernels that follow this first one, then i'l use oldconfig |
| 21:44.15 | Tallu | asg: well it's the processor fan and the psu that are increasing it |
| 21:44.17 | Doctor | Tallu: my P3 533 has 1.2gig of ram |
| 21:44.23 | brick | onetinsoldier, if you want to go completely from scratch then you don't need oldconfig |
| 21:44.27 | irina | greetings ! ------ I have just installed di etch beta2 ----- first - the gnome was installed as default ---- however I went and install kde = everything went fine - however if I log on kde and go to synaptic package manager - I can see KDE unchecked - should I check it again ? |
| 21:44.29 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 21:44.39 | asg | Tallu: go with more ram; don't worry about the processor unless you need it. |
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| 21:46.05 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, do you know where can I get help about "joomla"? |
| 21:46.07 | Longkong | hi :) |
| 21:46.17 | Longkong | SonnyBurnett: in #joomla ? ;) |
| 21:46.40 | SonnyBurnett | Longkong, nobody talks there, another channel? |
| 21:46.59 | Longkong | SonnyBurnett: you already asked there? |
| 21:47.09 | SonnyBurnett | Longkong, yep |
| 21:47.09 | asg | SonnyBurnett: perhaps picking a solution that has some support will benefit you in the long run |
| 21:47.24 | brick | maybe they are still in "#mambo" |
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| 21:47.59 | Longkong | SonnyBurnett: whats your problem then? |
| 21:48.04 | onetinsoldier | my mouse is not working on bootup.i have to modprobe mousedev and hid and then start up gpm. i put mousedev and hid into /etc/modules but no change. any ideas anyone? |
| 21:48.09 | pettern | moyix, ty. |
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| 21:49.16 | brick | onetinsoldier, you can compile those options into the kernel.. |
| 21:49.20 | E-bola | loop: version magic '2.6.15-1-k7 K7 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.15-1-k7 K7 gcc-3.3' |
| 21:49.23 | E-bola | hmmm there's my problem |
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| 21:50.31 | Longkong | I also have a question now: Is there a OSS alternative to Plesk? I know vhcs but this is too much php/mysql oriented... |
| 21:50.34 | onetinsoldier | brick: yep,i know. maybe i'd better get to compiling. still, seems like that should be working. and one thing i didn't put into my message is.. that at one time it as working on fine on bootup! don't know what's happened. |
| 21:50.54 | towersbe | Hey guys, the video team at Debconf6 here :) |
| 21:51.01 | SonnyBurnett | Longkong, I want to update joomla, I have it installed 1.0.8, now I want to install it in spanish, and a later version with some patchs |
| 21:51.15 | Longkong | SonnyBurnett: interessting :) |
| 21:51.15 | shogunx | towersbe, cheers to mexico! |
| 21:51.19 | towersbe | The Debconf talks are being broadcast live now, and the stream seems to be doing much better now |
| 21:51.58 | onetinsoldier | any way to listen from the console? :) |
| 21:51.58 | Longkong | SonnyBurnett: The language you can install with the Admin-Panel... |
| 21:52.18 | towersbe | onetinsoldier: sure, mplayer http://video.debconf.org:8000/tower.ogg -vo null |
| 21:52.21 | chealer9 | towersbe: hi videoteam! |
| 21:52.29 | asg | onetinsoldier: mplayer can do it |
| 21:52.42 | towersbe | But the talk right now is in Spanish, though.. :) |
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| 21:53.04 | onetinsoldier | towersbe: ah, cool. thx. it probably won't work for me tho. i just installe recently and i have a feeling my sound isn't working. i could be wrong tho! |
| 21:53.07 | asg | towersbe: sģ seńor |
| 21:53.09 | Longkong | SonnyBurnett: you can also just overwrite the files... There won't be a DB update.. |
| 21:53.12 | onetinsoldier | asg: thx man |
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| 21:53.57 | onetinsoldier | oh, spanish. i don't know very much spanish. muy muy pequito! |
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| 21:54.14 | stoned | hmm |
| 21:54.14 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 21:54.14 | Longkong | spanish? Can I eat that? :P |
| 21:54.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 21:54.18 | stoned | me es fumar mucho motta |
| 21:54.19 | stoned | :) |
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| 21:54.49 | chealer9 | towersbe: just an audio stream, right? |
| 21:54.50 | towersbe | This talk is in Spanish. |
| 21:54.57 | towersbe | chealer9: nope, audio/video |
| 21:55.04 | stoned | is it |
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| 21:55.10 | towersbe | chealer9: if you apt-get install vlc, that shoudl be able to play it just fine |
| 21:55.11 | asg | towersbe: who's the guy talking now? |
| 21:55.17 | towersbe | Enrico Zini |
| 21:55.23 | towersbe | His English talks are great |
| 21:55.25 | chealer9 | towersbe: oh. well, kaffeine seems to miss a part |
| 21:55.26 | asg | towersbe: couldn't remember the name |
| 21:55.29 | E-bola | Hmmm loop-aes seems broken in testing branch |
| 21:55.33 | E-bola | its compiled with gcc 4.0 |
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| 21:55.36 | Nacho_19LP | hi! |
| 21:55.39 | E-bola | while kernel is gcc 3.3? |
| 21:55.40 | chealer9 | towersbe: nice |
| 21:55.40 | towersbe | Judging from the audience, so is his Spanish talk ;) |
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| 21:56.11 | towersbe | There's an interesting English talk due in 8 minutes |
| 21:56.23 | towersbe | Someone from Intel. |
| 21:56.34 | Nacho_19LP | When apt-get upgrading the "cron" package it stops and says: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102" and "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" How can I fix it? |
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| 21:57.01 | E-bola | Can somebody confirm this error in testing, so i know its not me? |
| 21:57.30 | Cinderella_ | E-bola: its you1 |
| 21:57.47 | Nacho_19LP | Cinderella_, hi! |
| 21:57.50 | Nacho_19LP | can u help me? |
| 21:57.51 | Cinderella_ | hiz |
| 21:58.00 | Cinderella_ | I don't have money, sorry. |
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| 21:58.03 | Nacho_19LP | hhaahhaha |
| 21:58.18 | Nacho_19LP | I dont want your money!!! I only have this error :S |
| 21:58.23 | Nacho_19LP | When apt-get upgrading the "cron" package it stops and says: "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102" and "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" |
| 21:58.23 | abrotman | !u |
| 21:58.24 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 21:58.31 | bnovc | i've added a group into /etc/group but when i try chgrp with it says its invalid; am i required to add it through some program? |
| 21:58.36 | abrotman | Nacho_19LP: check the bts |
| 21:58.44 | Nacho_19LP | abrotman, where do i find it? |
| 21:58.54 | abrotman | !bts |
| 21:58.54 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 21:59.09 | joseomar | Goo afternoon everyone |
| 21:59.14 | joseomar | good |
| 21:59.18 | towersbe | Goo. |
| 21:59.18 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Inertia Creeps!! |
| 21:59.23 | Nacho_19LP | abrotman, great but... i used to fix those "error 1" by editing a file... |
| 21:59.24 | towersbe | scarynetworkguy: :) |
| 21:59.28 | Nacho_19LP | and i dont remember which one :( |
| 21:59.35 | E-bola | I guess ile try a 2.6.16 kernel from unstable |
| 21:59.45 | E-bola | and see if they managed to compile their modules with 1 version of gcc |
| 21:59.50 | abrotman | Nacho_19LP: go check the bts |
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| 21:59.55 | Usiu | Hi |
| 21:59.57 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: shit rolls downhill |
| 22:00.00 | Usiu | how to disable power button ? |
| 22:00.05 | Nacho_19LP | ok |
| 22:00.09 | Ronin | Usiu: pull the cable off it |
| 22:00.09 | joseomar | is there any problem with amsn? |
| 22:00.10 | bnovc | Usiu, unplug it |
| 22:00.13 | scarynetworkguy | Yay! |
| 22:00.22 | Cinderella_ | Nacho_19LP: sorry but I don't understand what it is wrong. But someone else in this channel will help you. |
| 22:00.28 | onetinsoldier | yep.. thenpoweris disabled! lol |
| 22:00.35 | Nacho_19LP | ok thanks Cinderella_ |
| 22:00.52 | Usiu | the things is when my labtop goes asleep state... the only way to wake it up is pressing power button |
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| 22:01.03 | Usiu | then everything starts up |
| 22:01.19 | Nacho_19LP | abrotman, it doesnt have any bug! |
| 22:01.23 | Longkong | Do I really have to buy Plesk, there must be a free solution :/ |
| 22:01.29 | Usiu | but a few seconds later.. it shuts down because power button was pressed |
| 22:01.30 | Usiu | :( |
| 22:01.32 | Usiu | any help? |
| 22:01.51 | Nacho_19LP | abrotman, i also see "invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: /etc/rc2.d/S89cron |
| 22:01.51 | Nacho_19LP | " |
| 22:02.00 | Cinderella_ | dpgk: nice web |
| 22:02.16 | Usiu | How to disable power button from shuting down whole system... ? |
| 22:02.43 | towersbe | Why do you want do do that? |
| 22:02.53 | Cinderella_ | Usiu: disable the cables from CPU |
| 22:03.10 | Usiu | Cinderella_, !? |
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| 22:03.14 | abrotman | /etc/inittab .. or the bios |
| 22:03.25 | towersbe | abrotman: both wrong |
| 22:03.31 | onetinsoldier | Nacho_19LP: perhaps you've found a bug and should report it? |
| 22:03.46 | Cinderella_ | The power button have cables, æno? |
| 22:03.50 | towersbe | Usiu: You can disable it turning off acpid's reaction to the power button. |
| 22:04.04 | Usiu | towersbe, yes.. do You know how to do it? |
| 22:04.09 | abrotman | towersbe: no .. it depends what he wants to disable the powerbutton from doing |
| 22:04.10 | Nacho_19LP | onetinsoldier, Hmm...it isnt a bug, i think it happened when i tried to upgrade to "testing |
| 22:04.12 | towersbe | Usiu: But even then, you can just hold the button in for four seconds and the motherboard will cut the power. |
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| 22:04.36 | Usiu | towersbe, yes I need to disable single press |
| 22:04.36 | pipeline | Longkong: Jesus christ. Hell no there's no free solution. |
| 22:04.37 | abrotman | towersbe: some power buttons have options in the bios .. or you can set the power button in the inittab to do a clean shutdown |
| 22:04.42 | pipeline | Longkong: Nothing that rivals plesk+hspcomplete, anyway. |
| 22:04.52 | Usiu | towersbe, cause I cant use sleep feature.. |
| 22:04.56 | towersbe | inittab sets the reaction to ctrl+alt+del |
| 22:05.01 | pipeline | Longkong: If you're too fucking cheap to buy plesk, you're best off finding someone who *did* buy plesk and HSP and become a reseller. |
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| 22:05.05 | onetinsoldier | Nacho_19LP: ok. perhaps you could try 'purging' the cron package and then installing it? |
| 22:05.07 | Usiu | towersbe, when I try to wake up my labtop it goes shutdown :( |
| 22:05.21 | Nacho_19LP | onetinsoldier, how i purge? |
| 22:05.27 | towersbe | Usiu: Ahh! Your problem is that when you use the power button to resume the machine, it shuts down the second it's turned on? |
| 22:05.32 | onetinsoldier | dpkg --purge <package> |
| 22:05.39 | Usiu | towersbe, right!! |
| 22:05.40 | Nacho_19LP | ok |
| 22:05.42 | Nacho_19LP | gr8 |
| 22:05.46 | onetinsoldier | hey! |
| 22:05.53 | abrotman | yeah .. purging cron .. yay |
| 22:05.53 | onetinsoldier | i don't know how that will work out tho! |
| 22:05.57 | abrotman | <sarcasm> |
| 22:06.07 | Nacho_19LP | and now, i get Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should |
| 22:06.07 | Nacho_19LP | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.08 | towersbe | Usiu: OK, hmm. I'm not exactly sure what config file that is. |
| 22:06.13 | onetinsoldier | yeah.. might not be the best idea... purging cron |
| 22:06.15 | towersbe | Usiu: But I'm quite sure it's in /etc/acpid |
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| 22:06.29 | abrotman | he could not load the module for the button maybe? |
| 22:06.37 | towersbe | Too nasty. |
| 22:06.53 | abrotman | or he could learn how to use the laptop? :) |
| 22:07.04 | towersbe | abrotman: Not a user error. |
| 22:07.05 | stoned | !heartburn |
| 22:07.12 | stoned | I should add a factoid |
| 22:07.14 | towersbe | Usiu: You *could* just stop the acpid every time you put it to sleep, but that's also quite nasty. |
| 22:07.18 | abrotman | towersbe: pressing the power button to wake it up ? |
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| 22:07.25 | towersbe | abrotman: From ACPI sleep |
| 22:07.25 | Usiu | towersbe, ok I found |
| 22:07.37 | abrotman | so maybe his suspend config ? |
| 22:07.43 | towersbe | abrotman: nope |
| 22:07.45 | Usiu | towersbe, /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn |
| 22:07.51 | towersbe | Usiu: exactly! |
| 22:08.03 | Usiu | i commented reacting for power btn |
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| 22:08.12 | towersbe | just edit that (you'll need to be root) and comment out the shutdown command by putting a # first |
| 22:08.14 | towersbe | yeah |
| 22:08.16 | towersbe | great |
| 22:08.22 | Usiu | ok thx |
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| 22:08.27 | Usiu | i'll check if it works |
| 22:08.30 | towersbe | no problem, good luck |
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| 22:09.37 | Usiu | ok it works.. |
| 22:10.00 | Usiu | hmm |
| 22:10.04 | Usiu | great.. |
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| 22:11.04 | acetech | is amd athlon 3000+ 64bit processor i386, i486, or i686? |
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| 22:11.25 | Longkong | acetech: amd64 ;) |
| 22:11.29 | Usiu | lol |
| 22:11.34 | yale | hehe |
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| 22:11.45 | yale | or any of those 3, if you prefer. |
| 22:11.53 | Usiu | right.. |
| 22:11.55 | acetech | LongKong: i dont want the amd64 because it does not have enough application support yet |
| 22:12.09 | Longkong | acetech: then take the k7 kernel.. |
| 22:12.30 | Longkong | acetech: or for sarge the amd64 Kernels for x86... :) |
| 22:12.31 | Usiu | acetech, ? what are you talking about ? You can recompile for 64 |
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| 22:13.06 | Longkong | Usiu: I think he means things like Flash, Openoffice or windows media codecs... |
| 22:13.37 | acetech | LongKong: that is what i mean |
| 22:13.42 | Usiu | Longkong, apt-build ? |
| 22:13.48 | acetech | LongKong: i should choose i386 then? |
| 22:13.57 | yale | k7, or i686 |
| 22:13.57 | Longkong | Usiu: is running again with amd64 :) |
| 22:14.07 | Longkong | acetech: sarge? |
| 22:14.24 | acetech | LongKong: i am running etch... but got the kernel source with kernel.org |
| 22:14.41 | E-bola | Where can you report problems with packages for debian testing? |
| 22:14.41 | irina | hey guys- is in KDE any remote desktop aplication ? ----- is any of those allow you to have SOUND while you share the screen ---- similar to NetMeeting ? |
| 22:14.43 | Longkong | acetech: then you could also cross-compile your kernel :) |
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| 22:15.25 | acetech | LongKong: cross compile the kernel to work with both 32bit and 64bit? |
| 22:15.53 | Longkong | acetech: yes, then you have a amd64 Kernel with a i386 System :) |
| 22:16.13 | Longkong | acetech: this does not work with some external modules though... |
| 22:16.32 | towersbe | irina: Try looking into nas. |
| 22:16.35 | Longkong | acetech: nvidia for example works, but ivtv does not. :) |
| 22:16.48 | acetech | LongKong: i need it to mainly work with the nvidia graphics and nforce3 mobo modules |
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| 22:17.16 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, why do I see this "FFFD" character? http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3466/joomla06nc.png |
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| 22:17.29 | Longkong | acetech: well, if you are not familiar with building kernels and modules etc. I would suggest to build it normally :) |
| 22:17.48 | acetech | LongKong: should i go with the i686 then? |
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| 22:18.03 | inviso_ | I got an error message trying to install x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb during an apt-get dist-upgrade, error code (1) but I can't find any more info on what went wrong. Any ideas? |
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| 22:18.28 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 22:18.33 | Longkong | acetech: take k7 :) |
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| 22:19.48 | onetinsoldier | invisio: you on that comp right now? |
| 22:20.04 | acetech | LongKong: i got it.... thank you for your help :) |
| 22:20.42 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: yup |
| 22:21.20 | onetinsoldier | ok... hang on a sec plz |
| 22:21.34 | abrotman | !plz |
| 22:21.35 | dpkg | somebody said plz was german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
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| 22:22.23 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: id you do a dpkg -l x11-common ..what do you show? |
| 22:22.27 | onetinsoldier | *if |
| 22:22.46 | Longkong | abrotman: thats not correct ;) |
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| 22:22.56 | streuner | hm |
| 22:22.58 | Longkong | abrotman: PLZ is the abbreviation for Postleizahl :P |
| 22:23.06 | abrotman | i'm not german .. don't whine to me |
| 22:23.22 | Ronin | pickign on case sensitive Longkong? heh |
| 22:23.25 | Longkong | abrotman: I am, well sort of. I'm swiss :P |
| 22:23.26 | stoned | as far as i know, english is the planetary language, NOT german |
| 22:23.32 | abrotman | Longkong: yell at streuner |
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| 22:23.57 | abrotman | !factinfo plz |
| 22:23.57 | dpkg | plz -- last modified at Tue May 13 21:42:01 2003 by bahamat!bahamat@cpe-024-165-169-104.midsouth.rr.com; it has been requested 109 times, last by Elly at Thu Nov 24 21:15:07 2005. |
| 22:24.38 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/716017 |
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| 22:25.51 | abrotman | !moo |
| 22:25.52 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 22:26.28 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: how about you try purging it and then reinstalling it? |
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| 22:27.18 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: "purging" it? |
| 22:28.18 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: yeah. a lot of times thatwill solve a problem with a package not upgrading when doing a dist-upgrade. that is what you were doing, correct? |
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| 22:29.10 | onetinsoldier | dpkg --force-depends --purge x11-common $$ apt-get install x11-common |
| 22:29.15 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: I'm doing a dist-upgrade as my system is apparently freaked out for one reason or another. apt-get install python-qt3 tells me it will remove all of my kde install and a bunch of other stuff. Doesn't make much sense. |
| 22:29.29 | inviso_ | I'll give that a shot, thanks |
| 22:29.29 | onetinsoldier | oops $$ should be && |
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| 22:30.37 | onetinsoldier | invisio: that might now make much sense to you, but it doe make sense to the debian system... i can try to explain why, but it'd take a bit |
| 22:30.39 | edison | help when i start xmms i get an error message of alsa "** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Permission denied" ? |
| 22:31.12 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: Is dist-upgrade my best step forward to get up to python2.4? |
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| 22:31.33 | abrotman | snd_oss_pcm |
| 22:32.00 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: i don't know the answer to that for sure. might be. |
| 22:32.14 | pyroplasm | stoned: measured by the number of native speakers chinese, hindi and spanish would be "planetary" languages. Not German, right. Nor English. |
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| 22:33.02 | edison | abrotman, ? |
| 22:33.02 | towersbe | edison: what you need is write permission to the sound device. |
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| 22:33.16 | towersbe | edison: Can you please run ls -l /dev/dsp ? |
| 22:33.48 | stoned | pyroplasm, actually english is a planetary language, its the most spoken, it is also spoken in every country, doesn't matter how much, but its there. |
| 22:33.51 | abrotman | edison: try loading that module |
| 22:34.14 | towersbe | abrotman: You'd get no such device in that case. |
| 22:34.15 | onetinsoldier | inisio_: perhaps it's possible for you to just have the 'testing' in your apt sources llist and then do an apt-get install python2.4 rather than apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:34.17 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: woah, check out http://pastebin.com/716033. Looks like apt-get -f install will do some nice things for me |
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| 22:34.29 | towersbe | abrotman: uh, wait a second, that makes no sense |
| 22:34.37 | abrotman | towersbe: yes ... you're making no sense :) |
| 22:35.23 | towersbe | abrotman: no... His eerror message indicates that his alsa libraries fail to open the device |
| 22:35.23 | edison | towersbe, crwxrwxrw- 1 root audio 14, 3 Apr 8 21:41 /dev/dsp0 |
| 22:35.42 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: yeah, I'm on testing already. Just having problems with a apt-get install python2.4-qt3. The qt3 dependencies are what are breaking it |
| 22:35.49 | towersbe | edison: thank you, now what is your username? alex? |
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| 22:35.57 | edison | towersbe, yes |
| 22:36.04 | abrotman | towersbe: which either means .. it's looking in the wrong place .. or the module isn't loaded to beghin with |
| 22:36.28 | towersbe | edison: please do grep audio /dev/group |
| 22:36.37 | pyroplasm | stoned: correct, it's *a* planetary language. |
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| 22:36.58 | abrotman | towersbe: do a what? |
| 22:37.15 | stoned | pyroplasm, you can't just pick like one little tiny thing someone says and try to like enforce a point of yours on it |
| 22:37.16 | stoned | man |
| 22:37.16 | Stevie | Which manual page do you want? |
| 22:37.16 | stoned | wtf |
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| 22:37.26 | abrotman | Stevie: turn off the stupid damn scripts |
| 22:37.29 | edison | towersbe, grep audio /etc/group |
| 22:37.29 | edison | audio:x:29: |
| 22:37.55 | fefaaa | How do I make it so that more than one application can make sound at a time? |
| 22:37.56 | abrotman | groups ? |
| 22:37.57 | towersbe | edison: OK, then please do adduser alex audio |
| 22:38.00 | fefaaa | I'm using alsa |
| 22:38.07 | stoned | pyroplasm, grammatically, when you compare English and German, you say "The" not "a" |
| 22:38.08 | stoned | anyway |
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| 22:38.34 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: roger. i don't know exactly how to solve the python depency problem. if i were trying to upgrade and had to solve i might know more. but i just installed etch yesterday and had not used linux in a few years. so i can't really beof much help. sorry |
| 22:38.42 | stoned | I've never heard "A English Langage". Its always "The English Language" |
| 22:38.44 | stoned | anyway |
| 22:39.02 | ribnitz | stoned: its like a german language. |
| 22:39.08 | abrotman | stoned: american english .. british english :) |
| 22:39.11 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: thanks regardless, I think you got me headed down the right path. We'll see how this fix install goes |
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| 22:39.19 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: yeah,that looks pretty nice tho |
| 22:39.29 | towersbe | edison: and log out and back in - your group membership should have been updated, and you should be allowed to use the sound device. |
| 22:39.35 | stoned | ribnitz, correction, it is like a germanic language |
| 22:39.44 | stoned | german is a proper noun first and foremost |
| 22:39.53 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: i think you'll get it worked out. ;-) |
| 22:39.53 | abrotman | english is a clusterfuck language |
| 22:40.01 | stoned | lol |
| 22:40.02 | towersbe | English is a very nice language. |
| 22:40.09 | edison | towersbe, now i get "** WARNING **: alsa_get_mixer(): Attaching to mixer hw:0 failed: Permission denied" |
| 22:40.13 | ribnitz | abrotman: That orrible english they speak in the south of london, eg. croydon. With all the specialities so that someone from hammersmith dont understand them.. |
| 22:40.21 | towersbe | edison: Really? That's odd... |
| 22:40.24 | irina | Help: anypointers to repositories for applications like: Macromedia Flash Player - RealPlayer, Mplayer ---- which can be installed on Etch ? |
| 22:40.25 | owenh | Groundy: I'm back. I couldn't find the md5sum program anywhere, but could view the contents of the DVD fine. |
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| 22:40.44 | ribnitz | irina: marillat. |
| 22:40.45 | stoned | irina, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 22:40.47 | beardy | wow, towersbe in here :) |
| 22:40.56 | stoned | !mplayer |
| 22:40.56 | dpkg | well, mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 22:41.02 | abrotman | i really doubt his system is looking for /dev/dsp0 |
| 22:41.04 | pyroplasm | stoned: you are right. so let's focus on debian. |
| 22:41.15 | abrotman | oh well |
| 22:41.16 | towersbe | edison: I'm sorry, I can't help you further right now. Have you logged in and out? |
| 22:41.20 | stoned | :) |
| 22:41.33 | abrotman | ls -l /dev/dsp* |
| 22:41.57 | abrotman | bha .. i give up .. towersbe has gone off the deepend! |
| 22:42.02 | owenh | Groundy: When it started loading the installer components (where I always have the problem), I noticed that it is looking for /var/cache/anna/libcb-udeb*.udeb and gets an I/O error. |
| 22:42.13 | irina | stoned and ribnitz: thanks --- Oh- also if I want to be authenticated in windows (like in a Windows Domain) and be able to see folder printers etc? |
| 22:42.24 | beardy | !udeb |
| 22:42.24 | dpkg | udebs are microdebs, "regular debian packages that are not policy compliant. They are used by the new debian-installer project, to build up the actual system that then installs debian." -- thus spake Joey Hess, the great debian genius |
| 22:42.34 | edison | towersbe, no |
| 22:42.37 | Groundy | oohhhh |
| 22:42.48 | owenh | Groundy: This must be why the md5sum check fails... |
| 22:42.49 | abrotman | edison: you need to logout/login after adding yourself to a group |
| 22:42.53 | ribnitz | Anyone here knolwedghanle with debian-installers?- What would you take to craft your won install process? inkcluding evms and RAID? |
| 22:43.00 | Groundy | and is there a copy of md5sum on the installer cd? |
| 22:43.05 | dondelelcaro | owenh: no, it has nothing to do with that. |
| 22:43.10 | abrotman | !tell ribnitz about custom netinst |
| 22:43.12 | ribnitz | abrotman: I know I habe already asked that. |
| 22:43.18 | abrotman | eh .. ok |
| 22:43.21 | dondelelcaro | owenh: if you've got bad md5sums, it means that you've got a bad build of the cd or something else is screwed up. |
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| 22:43.44 | dondelelcaro | ribnitz: you just need the svn d-i, and then change whatever you want to enale evms. Raid is already supported. |
| 22:44.12 | owenh | dondelelcaro: Bad md5sums during install, but fine md5sums outside of debian-installer. |
| 22:44.13 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: the cd's md5sum matches the website's, so I can only assume the build is messed or his dvd drive is corrupting the files, |
| 22:44.19 | towersbe | edison: please do that. |
| 22:44.30 | edison | towersbe, abrotman nice that work thank ! |
| 22:44.32 | dondelelcaro | owenh: where exactly are you seeing these md5sums? |
| 22:44.33 | ribnitz | dondelelcaro: Ok. |
| 22:44.41 | towersbe | edison: You're welcome. :) |
| 22:44.47 | abrotman | edison: glad to hear .. now give towersbe a beer! :) |
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| 22:44.55 | edison | i did su alex ;) |
| 22:44.56 | dondelelcaro | owenh: that unfortunatly doesn't preculude the build being busted... |
| 22:45.02 | dondelelcaro | s/owenh/Groundy/ |
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| 22:45.23 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: true, but that's why I had him check for dvd read errors, |
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| 22:45.40 | owenh | dondelelcaro: On a running Linux (Fedora) dvdisaster checks the DVD as fine, the image md5sum is fine, and files of the DVD check fine. |
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| 22:46.06 | dondelelcaro | Groundy: yes, but that doesn't mean that the actual build of the image itself was built properly. |
| 22:46.14 | owenh | dondelelcaro: In the installer, however, the integrity check fails and the "load installer components from CD" step failed. |
| 22:46.17 | dondelelcaro | owenh: where exactly are you seeing the md5sum errors? |
| 22:46.35 | dondelelcaro | ok; which version of the DVD is this? |
| 22:46.52 | Groundy | dondelelcaro: it either reading the cd, or the built iso that's stuffed, |
| 22:47.06 | owenh | dondelelcaro: When "load installer components" step fails, I switch to tty4 and see "WARNING ** bad md5sum" |
| 22:47.24 | Groundy | owenh: which url has the md5sum's your comparing to? |
| 22:47.28 | owenh | dondelelcaro: This is latest stable unofficial amd64 port, 31r0a. |
| 22:47.55 | owenh | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-dvd/ |
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| 22:48.46 | stoned | abrotman, here I wanted to share something with you, I find this woman to be the most beautiful, mostly because she is a virtouso violinist and she does immaculate renditions of Bach. Anyway, Viktoria Mullova http://www.onyxclassics.com/pressroom/Mullova%20-%20Gusov%20bw4.jpg |
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| 22:49.03 | owenh | I am checking the md5sums of the files on the DVD using the md5sums.txt on the DVD image. |
| 22:49.09 | dondelelcaro | owenh: try using the netinst cds for amd64; there should be a 31r2 build of it. |
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| 22:49.31 | rapsys | I was wondering if there is qoite reliable tool to detect iso8859-15 from utf-8 one and convert the iso8859-15 to utf-8 ? |
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| 22:49.48 | rapsys | I know how to recode, but the detection is my problem |
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| 22:50.04 | owenh | dondelelcaro: (a) I have a dialup internet connection and (b) no, the netinst version is the same. |
| 22:50.08 | Ugly_Duck | whats typically wrong when you compile a new kernel, install, reboot, then it comes up with a kernel panic saying cannot find root=hda2 (0,0) ? not select ide drivers or partition type or some thing? |
| 22:50.09 | dondelelcaro | rapsys: it's often very difficult to test. |
| 22:50.30 | inviso_ | Ok, I know a little bit more about my problem. I apparently have xfree86-common installed and x11-common is conflicting with it. How should I resolve the conflict? |
| 22:50.50 | bron | I'm having trouble finding information/understanding how the debconf database gets its default setup (specifically in relation to xorg, but I'm curious in general). Is there a way to run dpkg-reconfigure and have it ignore the previous answers stored in the debconf database? |
| 22:50.53 | onetinsoldier | i forget... how do you restart a tty? i've got one right now that is missing the blinking cursor |
| 22:50.54 | dondelelcaro | owenh: hrm... wel, try asking in #debian-adm64, they may have seen this error before. |
| 22:50.55 | bztunk | inviso_: remove both |
| 22:51.07 | rapsys | dondelelcaro: in that cas it's french man pages (with accentuated letters) |
| 22:51.15 | owenh | dondelelcaro: Ha! I have tried that. |
| 22:51.27 | inviso_ | bztunk: x11-common hasn't installed yet and xfree86-common throws a ton of unmet dependencies if I try to remove it |
| 22:51.58 | inviso_ | Is it safe to force the removal of xfree86-common? |
| 22:52.17 | bztunk | inviso_: can you explain what you try to do in more detail? |
| 22:52.20 | owenh | dondelelcaro: I am afraid I'll have to wait until the next version of the amd64 port. I was hoping to switch from Fedora sooner than that... |
| 22:52.45 | dondelelcaro | owenh: well, that's all I can suggest, since i don't think anyone else has seen that problem. |
| 22:53.07 | rapsys | my problem is that vim does the detection very well, but I have no idea at all about how to use that feature on command line |
| 22:53.09 | dondelelcaro | owenh: what you can do of course is a manual install using debootstrap and your dvd. |
| 22:53.20 | owenh | dondelelcaro: Thanks for your help! At least I'm not using Windows; I can certainly use Fedora for a while. |
| 22:53.20 | inviso_ | bztunk: apt-get dist-update and/or apt-get -f install. I specified xorg during the config stage, but I must have selected xfree86 when I did the original install |
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| 22:53.31 | Joe7 | hi |
| 22:53.34 | owenh | dondelelcaro: Yeah... |
| 22:53.37 | inviso_ | bztunk: it fails on x11-common when trying to overwrite XSession |
| 22:53.39 | bztunk | inviso_: dist-upgrade to what? etch? |
| 22:53.54 | dondelelcaro | owenh: you may laso try some different dvd hardware... but that's all I can htink of right this second. |
| 22:54.26 | Joe7 | is it possible to use apache2-mpm-worker with libapache2-mod-php ? when i try to apt-get install libapache2-mod-php onto mpm-worker it says it's gonne be removed and prefork installed :o |
| 22:54.27 | owenh | dondelelcaro: I may burn another DVD at 1x or something horrifyingly slow... |
| 22:54.34 | inviso_ | bztunk: dist-upgrade to bring in a ton of packages that are being held back. I need to get python2.4-qt3 installed, but right now it tells me it will uninstall all of kde because of dependencies. |
| 22:55.08 | bztunk | inviso_: why are you using dist-upgrade for? woody to sarge? |
| 22:55.15 | dondelelcaro | owenh: you may also be able to drive the install manually from the shell in vt2 if that's come up. |
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| 22:55.40 | inviso_ | bztunk: I'm on testing currently. I'm using it to resolve packages that are "held back" |
| 22:55.48 | owenh | dondelelcaro: I need to go now; thanks for your help. |
| 22:56.00 | owenh | Groundy: Thanks for your help too. |
| 22:56.01 | bztunk | inviso_: try aptitude instead? it has a broken packages resolver |
| 22:56.02 | dondelelcaro | owenh: np |
| 22:56.38 | monaco | abrotman, hi, I think I heve a clue on my modprobe.d problem |
| 22:57.04 | monaco | onetinsoldier, hi, I think I heve a clue on my modprobe.d problem |
| 22:57.20 | onetinsoldier | any way to completely restart a tty? i used a kill -9 on it but it's still missing the blinking cursor. |
| 22:57.28 | towersbe | The stream is English now, and apparently very stable. |
| 22:57.37 | onetinsoldier | monaco: oh? cool. what is it? :-) |
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| 22:57.44 | sigjuice | is there an easy way to look at the changelog deltas for all the packages that got updated by apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 22:58.18 | Eulex | about the new support fofr pdiff in apt... currently only apt in unstable has pdiff support, does that mean that only unstable has pdiffs? that is, can I use apt from unstable on testing and use the pdiff support? |
| 22:58.26 | Eulex | s/fofr/for/ |
| 22:58.38 | monaco | onetinsoldier, I removed module-foo from /etc/modules but it still detected and loaded on boot (why?); so, later on, when modprobe runs, module-foo is already laoded and nothing happens. What's wrong? |
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| 22:58.50 | braeuni_ | hi |
| 22:59.03 | sigjuice | hi |
| 22:59.06 | inviso_ | bztunk: It's doing its thing now ::crosses fingers:: |
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| 23:00.32 | nceterval | Using Sid, the flash browser plugin is not showing certain fonts. I already installed msttscorefonts and gs-fonts. What else needs to be done? |
| 23:00.35 | onetinsoldier | monaco: i would love to be able to help but i am way to rusty with linux right now after not using it for a few years and just having installed it yesterday. heck, i've got problems of my own i'm still trying to figure out... lol. |
| 23:00.57 | monaco | onetinsoldier, anything I can help? |
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| 23:01.36 | onetinsoldier | lol... i don't know. i doubt. for instance. i want to get x-windows running... i would love to be able to! |
| 23:01.53 | onetinsoldier | but the kernel crashes when i try to startx! |
| 23:02.03 | monaco | onetinsoldier, unsupported video chiptset? |
| 23:02.04 | Eulex | what kernel? |
| 23:02.12 | onetinsoldier | 2.4.27 |
| 23:02.20 | monaco | what video card? |
| 23:02.22 | Eulex | heh, what graphics chipset? |
| 23:02.35 | onetinsoldier | ATI X800 XT PE |
| 23:02.44 | monaco | should work |
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| 23:02.55 | monaco | have you tried vesa driver first? |
| 23:03.09 | onetinsoldier | yeah...i thought so to.. i am running etch! bleeding edge broken stuff... lol |
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| 23:03.40 | Eulex | onetinsoldier, umh, if you're running etch: get a newer kernel |
| 23:03.40 | inviso_ | bztunk: See http://pastebin.com/716103. At least the error is consistent :( |
| 23:03.45 | mada | ok, i went to debianppc but nobody is there and i don't think this is hardwae specific ... when i try to do a net install, once i hit the "scanning the mirror" section of the install it freezes ... any thoughts? |
| 23:03.59 | monaco | onetinsoldier, I'm etching too... my chiptset is just not supported :-( |
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| 23:04.27 | fefaaa | How do I make it so that more than one application can make sound at a time? |
| 23:04.27 | onetinsoldier | Eulex.. i hear you. I read on the debian website that beta2 of etch was supposed to install 2.6.15 kernel! but it didn't. it installed 2.4.27 |
| 23:04.45 | bztunk | inviso_: hum, i never had that error heh, try the BTS |
| 23:04.49 | Eulex | onetinsoldier, hmm, that's strange. sounds like you got the sarge installer. |
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| 23:04.54 | onetinsoldier | btw... how do you guys make my name bright yellow when replyng to me? |
| 23:05.05 | onetinsoldier | i forget... i'm so rusty |
| 23:05.21 | inviso_ | bztunk: BTS? |
| 23:05.22 | Eulex | onetinsoldier, that's a setting in your irc client somewhere |
| 23:05.28 | monaco | Folks, I have driver-foo compiled as a module, and I don't have it listed in /etc/modules. On boot, however, kernel detectes foo and loads driver-foo. How can I avoid it? |
| 23:05.31 | bztunk | inviso_: its strange that xfree86-common depends on so much stuff |
| 23:05.32 | Eulex | !btssmit inviso_ |
| 23:05.38 | Eulex | !btssmite inviso_ |
| 23:05.39 | bztunk | inviso_: bug tracking system |
| 23:05.49 | onetinsoldier | ok.. roger.. bitchx here. and i should have said 'your names'... not my name |
| 23:05.51 | inviso_ | bztunk: it's that so much stuff depends upon it that's the problem |
| 23:05.57 | monaco | onetinsoldier, I got an image of etch and it installed 2.6.x |
| 23:06.09 | bztunk | inviso_: are you sure the stuff xfree86-common depends on isn't that, xfree86 stuff? delete them all |
| 23:06.19 | bztunk | inviso_: and use xorg instead? |
| 23:06.22 | inviso_ | Ok, new tactic. How do I blow away "preconfiguring packages" choices? |
| 23:06.27 | onetinsoldier | well, it didn't on mine for some reason.. i used the debian-installer to install over the net tho |
| 23:06.36 | inviso_ | bztunk: kde is included.. I think it's simply not switching gracefully |
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| 23:06.47 | bztunk | inviso_: wtf? KDE? strange... |
| 23:06.52 | bztunk | inviso_: i donno then, sorry |
| 23:07.01 | inviso_ | I'm going to try choosing xfree86 if I can get that dialog to come up again |
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| 23:07.23 | inviso_ | but that choice is stored somewhere from my earlier run of aptitude |
| 23:07.30 | sigjuice | monaco: you probably need to add driver-foo to /etc/hotplug/blacklist or some such place |
| 23:07.40 | beardy | onetinsoldier: Boot the installer with "linux26" if you want a 2.6 kernel.Either you got the wrong disc, or you have to give it "linux26". |
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| 23:08.02 | monaco | sigjuice, that's what blacklist is for? |
| 23:08.16 | beardy | !blacklist |
| 23:08.17 | dpkg | methinks blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 23:09.24 | monaco | sigjuice, is the kernel probing for foo just because there is a driver-foo in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) ? Does it scan the directory? |
| 23:09.39 | onetinsoldier | beardy: thank you. i have this system installed fromover the net now though. and... i would like to take the time to just compile a 2.6.15 kernel from scratch. go through and read what all the drivers and options do and pick the right stuff for my hardware while leaving out all unecessary stuff. i am ready to try it now. but it's kind of scary, a little anyway. |
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| 23:10.14 | sigjuice | monaco: which module is this? |
| 23:10.21 | onetinsoldier | any way to completely restart a tty? i used a kill -9 on it but it's still missing the blinking cursor. |
| 23:10.32 | monaco | onetinsoldier, download linux-image-2.6.16-something.deb from www.debian.org (unstabel) |
| 23:10.38 | bztunk | onetinsoldier: reboot :D |
| 23:10.50 | beardy | onetinsoldier: hold on. |
| 23:11.01 | monaco | sigjuice, ipw3945 (for intel Pro/Wireless 3945); not in kernel tree yet |
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| 23:11.26 | monaco | onetinsoldier, or download 2.6.16 source and headers, and compile with make-kpkg |
| 23:11.31 | onetinsoldier | bztunk: roger... i know that will work. i was hoping to aviod a reboot, but rebooting is certainly not out of the question |
| 23:11.59 | bztunk | onetinsoldier: well, i'm won't be surprised if there is another way, but rebooting always work :D |
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| 23:12.01 | onetinsoldier | monaco: roger. i used make-kpkg years ago and plan on using it now |
| 23:12.02 | beardy | onetinsoldier: You don't need to compile you own kernel unless you have hardware that requires it. 'aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.?' or linux-image-2.6.? it might be in etch. |
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| 23:12.25 | beardy | onetinsoldier: "/msg dpkg kp" |
| 23:12.42 | beardy | onetinsoldier: What do you mean you killed the tty, what are you trying to do? |
| 23:13.06 | onetinsoldier | beardy: the bliking cursor is missing right now on tty1 |
| 23:13.12 | onetinsoldier | *blinking |
| 23:13.18 | monaco | onetinsoldier, piece of cake: just download the source, and the headers for your arch; copy headers/.config to source/ and make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version -your-flavour kernel_image; bah, you have a image.deb |
| 23:13.28 | onetinsoldier | it bothers me... i want the blinking cursor back.. lol |
| 23:14.04 | sigjuice | monaco: modules don't get loaded just because they happen to be in /lib/modules |
| 23:14.04 | beardy | onetinsoldier: What did you do when it disappeared, and what is the last thing that was printed to the screen? |
| 23:14.07 | onetinsoldier | kill -9 in the tty kind of makes it restart.. it comes back. but the blinking cursor didn't! |
| 23:14.40 | aredhel | onetinsoldier, try runing /usr/bin/reset |
| 23:15.02 | beardy | onetinsoldier: Don't do that, whatever you are doing.. To logout of the tty, run 'exit' or 'logout' or hit Ctrl-d. |
| 23:15.09 | onetinsoldier | beardy: it's missing becuase I accidentally started up a 'dpkg-reconfigure gpm' on it... then i killed that. ever since then the blinking cursor is missing |
| 23:15.11 | sigjuice | monaco: why don't you simply delete or move the module if you don't need it? |
| 23:15.27 | monaco | sigjuice, so why my network chipset is detected on boot if I compiled its support as a module? I don't have driver-foo in /etc/modules or anywherewlese |
| 23:15.27 | beardy | onetinsoldier: Yes, run 'reset' if something is strange with your tty. |
| 23:15.40 | onetinsoldier | RESET! ahh.. that's it i think! hang on |
| 23:15.45 | monaco | sigjuice, hehe... in fact I don't want it to be loaded on boot; I need to load it afterwards |
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| 23:16.07 | sigjuice | why is that monaco? |
| 23:16.10 | onetinsoldier | YES! that was it.. Thank You! |
| 23:16.28 | onetinsoldier | thank you beardy! |
| 23:16.37 | beardy | onetinsoldier: You're welcome. |
| 23:16.41 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 23:17.28 | monaco | sigjuice, because when the driver is loaded on boot, it seems that modprobe.d is not read; and the parameters are no passed to the driver; only when I invoke modprobe driver-foo by hand it's that modeprobe.d files are read (I also don't know why it happens, but google tells me that it happens to other pople too) |
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| 23:18.22 | onetinsoldier | aredhel: sorry.. i didn't see you message earlier! too busy typing/replying to others.. thank you for trying |
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| 23:18.30 | sigjuice | didn't the blacklist file make any difference? |
| 23:18.41 | onetinsoldier | i just now paged up to see what i had been missing |
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| 23:18.58 | hazard_ | logged in though ssh is there any way to start a process on say, tty1? |
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| 23:19.04 | sigjuice | I'm not sure, but I believe modules get loaded automatically as a response to hotplug events |
| 23:19.19 | aredhel | monaco, do you really need to pass parameters to the driver or just to run the firmware loader after the module is loaded? |
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| 23:19.21 | monaco | sigjuice, you mean to add and entry for driver-foo in the blacklist? makes sense |
| 23:19.41 | beardy | hazard_: Not directly, but you can run screen, start what you want, and then detach it. Then reattach it on tty1. |
| 23:19.55 | monaco | aredhel, that's right, the module is shipped with a script that loads the firmware and starts a daemon |
| 23:20.07 | monaco | aredhel, I need to run this script |
| 23:20.11 | hazard_ | How would I go about doing that? know of a manual or guide or something? |
| 23:20.17 | inviso_ | Anyone know how I manually select my default xserver during an apt-get upgrade? I made a bad choice earlier and it won't ask me again |
| 23:20.25 | monaco | aredhel, the module docs suggest to use modepobe.d |
| 23:20.33 | aredhel | monaco, so just have the script run late in the boot process. |
| 23:20.48 | monaco | aredhel, btw, why isn't modeprobe.d/* read on boot? |
| 23:21.21 | beardy | hazard_: 'screen' (install it) 'someprogram' Ctrl-a d (to detach) Get to your tty1 physically, 'screen -r' (you have to be using the same user) |
| 23:21.21 | aredhel | monaco, I have no idea of whats happening there, but it may be a udev/hotplug thing. |
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| 23:21.35 | monaco | aredhel, that'd be a solution... not clean, but feasible. But why things don't work as expected? I'll try your suggestion |
| 23:21.48 | hazard_ | hmmm....that would pose a problem on a headless system with no keyboard.... |
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| 23:22.06 | beardy | hazard_: Of course, so why do you want to run anything on tty1? |
| 23:22.43 | hazard_ | so it dosen't stop when I disconnect ssh (at least, I think it does) |
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| 23:22.50 | hazard_ | so really "How do I start things that won't stop when I close an ssh connection"? (or maybe resumeable ssh connection?) |
| 23:23.27 | beardy | hazard_: Ah, then just run screen, and the program, then detach and logout, next time you login, run 'screen -r' to reattach it, with the proghram running. When running screen Ctrl-a ? gives you help, and read 'man screen'. |
| 23:23.29 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: hello...still here? I might know the answer |
| 23:23.36 | beardy | !screen |
| 23:23.36 | dpkg | i heard screen is allows you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, has its own scrollback and copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or you get disconnected or http://www.michael-prokop.at/screen/ or at ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/screen or apt-get install screen |
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| 23:24.00 | sigjuice | !hotplug |
| 23:24.01 | dpkg | i guess hotplug is a auto detect that are pluged into a running system (USB / IDE) http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net/ , or see discover, or now replaced by udev in etch+ |
| 23:24.50 | hazard_ | hmm...installing something huh?...that means I'd need to recreat all my bootcds....again.... |
| 23:25.14 | beardy | hazard_: What? You don't know how to install something? |
| 23:25.21 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: hello...still here? I might know the answer |
| 23:25.22 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: yep, still here and still failing miserably |
| 23:25.29 | hazard_ | no...its that I'm using bootable CDs to run dedicated processing boxes. |
| 23:25.34 | hazard_ | so, they're read-only... |
| 23:25.34 | onetinsoldier | ok... i'll try man |
| 23:25.45 | hazard_ | which means I need to remake them if I need to add anything new |
| 23:25.59 | onetinsoldier | it's something like... dpkg-reconfigure -plow make-kpkg |
| 23:26.05 | beardy | hazard_: From now on, always include screen. :) |
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| 23:26.07 | onetinsoldier | oops! |
| 23:26.14 | irina | most annoying --- mozilla firefox - click on media rtsp hyperlink which is realmedia ---- and the launch application launches totem (complet useless for most internet delivered files) ---- how can I choose what application firefox has to open |
| 23:26.15 | hazard_ | Its going into the image as we speak. |
| 23:26.25 | onetinsoldier | it's something like... dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg |
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| 23:26.34 | monaco | what means "persistent" in udev rules? |
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| 23:27.11 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: you get that? dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg ...or whatever your xserver package name is |
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| 23:27.51 | beardy | inviso_: What are you trying to do? |
| 23:28.05 | redblades | The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". |
| 23:28.06 | monaco | !blacklist |
| 23:28.06 | dpkg | blacklist is, like, Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 23:28.11 | redblades | The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". |
| 23:28.22 | redblades | I just got this message when I logged on |
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| 23:28.31 | beardy | !botmsg |
| 23:28.32 | dpkg | talk to me in /msg unless there is a reason to do it in the channel |
| 23:28.55 | inviso_ | beardy: fix my very busted system :( See http://pastebin.com/716103 for the error message |
| 23:29.12 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: no luck so far, but I'll investigate that. Thanks |
| 23:29.58 | redblades | The sound control is gone from my screen |
| 23:30.03 | inviso_ | beardy: I have xfree86 installed and I chose xorg as my default during an upgrade. It's.. unhappy.. |
| 23:30.13 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: ummm sorry, i just read your post again and i think i was trying to give an answer to a different question. i think i gave you the wrong answer... sorry |
| 23:30.21 | redblades | I can't change the volume and I have no idea why |
| 23:30.48 | streuner | redblades: disable ESD |
| 23:30.58 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: did you ever do the apt-get -f install? |
| 23:31.03 | redblades | ESD? |
| 23:31.11 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: yeah, that's not quite what I need. Yep, it fails in the same way |
| 23:31.18 | redblades | !ESD |
| 23:31.19 | dpkg | i guess esd is the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 23:31.46 | redblades | that was most unenlightening |
| 23:31.57 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: what is the error message... can yo paste it in here? |
| 23:32.11 | redblades | streuner, ESD? How? |
| 23:32.14 | beardy | onetinsoldier: He pasted it in a pastebin, see above. |
| 23:32.23 | onetinsoldier | ok... i'll have a look |
| 23:32.29 | streuner | redblades: try to start gnome-control-center |
| 23:32.49 | beardy | inviso_: What are you upgrading from, and to? |
| 23:33.05 | streuner | redblades: what version of debian are you running? |
| 23:33.27 | redblades | sarge 3.1 |
| 23:33.36 | streuner | ok |
| 23:33.57 | irina | guys can anyone tell me how to get to irc.mozilla.org firefox chat room ----- I have XCchat installed ? |
| 23:34.20 | redblades | Hey, I just noticed, almost every thing in the Debian menu is doubled up! |
| 23:34.40 | redblades | There are two instances of most programs! |
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| 23:34.42 | beardy | irina: "/connect irc.mozilla.org", or "/server irc.mozilla.org" |
| 23:34.46 | Etrai | (query apt |
| 23:34.53 | docelic | irina, /server irc.mozilla.org , then /join #firefox .. and it;s not "rooms", it's "channels" |
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| 23:35.10 | inviso_ | beardy: I'm on testing, doing apt-get -f install or apt-get dist-upgrade or even apt-get upgrade at this point |
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| 23:35.38 | inviso_ | they all fail because it's not able to install the xorg packages with the xfree86 packages in place |
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| 23:36.10 | beardy | inviso_: Then you were prepared for things to go very wrong, I hope. |
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| 23:36.24 | beardy | inviso_: Can you purge xfree86 at this point, and then try again? |
| 23:36.55 | inviso_ | beardy: I wasn't really :( I shouldn't have picked xorg as my default xserver during the upgrade in retrospect |
| 23:37.01 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: just purge that xfree86-common. i think you are going to have to get some things cleaned up to finish the upgrade. after you do, then you will be able to get all the newer stuff that replaces the old stuff that's holding you back right now. in order for a 'dist-upgrade' to be allowed to finish, you must allow it to get rid of all conflicting packages and libraries. and sometimes you must get rid of them manually your |
| 23:37.13 | inviso_ | beardy: unsure how I would go about purging it correctly |
| 23:37.27 | redblades | Why are there 2 of the programs? |
| 23:37.37 | beardy | inviso_: What I meant was that unstable is called unstable because it is, or can be. |
| 23:37.48 | inviso_ | I'm running testing, not unstable |
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| 23:38.21 | redblades | Can I edit the contents of a Gnome menu? |
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| 23:38.56 | beardy | inviso_: Maybe I misunderstood, so you are updating/upgrading, not dist-upgrading? |
| 23:38.57 | VolVE | Hey all, I was wondering if any of the Areca SATA RAID controller drivers were included in 3.1r2 at all, or if there was a plan to include them going forward? Anyone know? :) |
| 23:39.25 | inviso_ | beardy: I did the dist-upgrade to bring in packages that were being "held back" for some reason |
| 23:39.29 | onetinsoldier | beardy: my understanding is that he is dist-upgrading |
| 23:39.53 | irina | hey guys you told me to do "/connect irc.mozilla.org" but you did not tell me where to type this command in Xchat? --- sorry for ignorance - but all those are not DNA imprinted :) |
| 23:40.30 | onetinsoldier | beardy: doing that is a process that must be allowed to run it's course. i think maybe he's a little afraid to let it do so. |
| 23:40.35 | benley | sounds like xchat is retarded :) |
| 23:40.57 | hazard_ | xchat is annoying. |
| 23:41.17 | benley | irina: the idea is you want to connect to that server. Do it however your irc client works. |
| 23:41.18 | Coweater | how do you control gnome's (metacity) window spawning? it likes to spawn to my second monitor when the first is busy and i only like that monitor on sometimes |
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| 23:41.42 | inviso_ | beardy: Any chance you know how I can get back to the dialog that asks me the choice of my default x server? I believe that choice is what's causing me problems |
| 23:42.06 | beardy | irina: Either that or "/server irc.mozilla.org", /server is more likely to be available, but perhaps /connect is to, you probably type it where you stand after starting your client. |
| 23:42.15 | Alphix | irina: press ctrl+t, you should get a new tab, select that tab and enter the command there |
| 23:42.26 | benley | Coweater: iirc, there is stuff you can tweak using one of the gconf config editors |
| 23:42.53 | Alphix | irina: and use /server, not /connect |
| 23:42.59 | beardy | inviso_: No, but I guess it could be 'dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system' or 'dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system-core' |
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| 23:43.34 | Coweater | benley: there's nothing i can find that remotely suggests it, unless the key needs to be created |
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| 23:43.56 | benley | Coweater: *shrug* may not be the case then. I haven't used metacity for several years. |
| 23:44.08 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: dang.. i forget the name of that package. it might be 'debconf-set-selections' |
| 23:44.20 | onetinsoldier | it's probably debconf-something |
| 23:45.03 | monaco | sigjuice, yah! you guys made my day! Indeed, it was a hotplug issue. Just blacklisted the module and not modeprobe.d can handle it. I love Debian community |
| 23:45.26 | jetscreamer | yes we rock |
| 23:45.36 | monaco | onetinsoldier, tks! |
| 23:45.46 | inviso_ | beardy: I tried the first one earlier and the second didn't do the trick either |
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| 23:46.35 | deadcat | havent heard much about Xgl lately. what up? |
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| 23:47.07 | onetinsoldier | monaco: what did i do to deserve a thank you? hehe |
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| 23:47.16 | onetinsoldier | you're welcome tho |
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| 23:48.20 | beardy | inviso_: What if you remove, and or purge xfree86? 'apt-get remove --purge x-window-system' (first backing up any configurations or X related things, xseesion or simillar, you want to keep/use for reference later) |
| 23:48.46 | monaco | onetinsoldier, much, bet on that! even moral support counts in hacking moments... |
| 23:49.05 | onetinsoldier | hehe.. cool. :-) you're welcome man |
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| 23:50.19 | seb- | is there any benefit to compiling your own kernel? |
| 23:50.28 | inviso_ | beardy: happy to give that a shot, but I want to be fairly certain the commands I have will nuke it before I start as I'm on that box currently. If I can blow X away and reinstall, that would work fine. Is there a purge that will remove all dependents as well? |
| 23:50.54 | monaco | Seb, you can tailor to your specific needs |
| 23:51.03 | monaco | but only if it makes sense |
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| 23:51.31 | irina | OK guys - I give up ---- all this Mozzilla - firefox are pain to configure anysmall plugin ----- still one question for Debian Etch Beta2 ---- I installed a bunch of applications and do not show in the menu ----- how you updated KDE menu ? |
| 23:51.35 | beardy | inviso_: x-window-system should do it, if that is what you used when you installed, otherwise, perhaps you need to remove the related packages by hand. |
| 23:51.46 | seb- | monaco: but you can just as easily add a *module* to a default kernel!? |
| 23:52.03 | onetinsoldier | beardy: i've been trying to get him to do that |
| 23:52.03 | inviso_ | beardy: will it get dependencies as well? |
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| 23:52.24 | ramattack | buenas a todos |
| 23:52.27 | inviso_ | err, dependents |
| 23:52.40 | monaco | seb-, Sure. But rarely (hopefully) you need to disable something, or to apply a patch... |
| 23:52.43 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: when you try to do it.. it will let you know what any dependcy problems are, if any |
| 23:52.58 | seb- | monaco: ok thanks |
| 23:53.01 | monaco | seb-, if you don't have any special reason, just use a off-the-shelf module |
| 23:53.08 | ramattack | alguien podrķa contarme porque mi servidor domino que corre bajo suse linux enterprise 8 aun teniendo 15 megas de memoria libre me usa unos 100 megas de swap? |
| 23:53.28 | atrus | what's up with polypaudio these days? there are new releases coming out, but it seems to have dissapeared from debian. it's in the bts, but without a maintainer, and i can't find it in the wnpp lists anywhere. |
| 23:53.34 | inviso_ | onetinsoldier: right, there are several hundred |
| 23:53.41 | onetinsoldier | for X? |
| 23:53.50 | inviso_ | yes. Dependents galore |
| 23:53.55 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 23:53.59 | inviso_ | I have lots of packages installed that need X |
| 23:54.07 | inviso_ | Like this one, for instance... |
| 23:54.24 | monaco | ramattack, friend, why don't you get rid of suse? |
| 23:54.25 | beardy | inviso_: x-window-system is a metapackage AFAIK, only containing dependencies, so yes, allthough, apt-get might not, start using aptitude instead, it works as apt-get if used as apt-get, if you run 'aptitude' with no options you get a curses interface. |
| 23:55.18 | onetinsoldier | well, start with purging the one that was stopping your apt-get -f install |
| 23:55.24 | ramattack | hi everybody |
| 23:55.28 | inviso_ | beardy: ok, hopefull you'll see me back later tonight :) |
| 23:55.37 | beardy | inviso_: But if you run aptitude now, I don't know if it will take cvare of removing the deps aswell, but, when you install things with aptitude, it keeps track of which packages it installed as dependencies, it will remove them when you remove the package you installed. |
| 23:56.03 | ramattack | can anyone tell me why my domino server over suse linux enteprise 8 having 15 mb of free ram uses almost constantly 100 mb of swap space? |
| 23:56.07 | beardy | inviso_: I may not be here then, but good luck. |
| 23:56.18 | inviso_ | beardy, onetinsoldier: ty, later guys |
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| 23:56.37 | onetinsoldier | invisio_: ok... good luck man |
| 23:56.41 | Ugly_Duck | if ext3 was compiles as a module, but my hda2 was ext3 filesystem, would be be able to find it on boot up? maybe this is way i got a kernel panic? |
| 23:57.03 | bztunk | Ugly_Duck: of course |
| 23:57.11 | Ugly_Duck | bztunk: doh, thanks |
| 23:57.30 | monaco | !blacklist |
| 23:57.31 | dpkg | it has been said that blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 23:57.32 | beardy | Ugly_Duck: Yes it is. |
| 23:57.37 | Ugly_Duck | bztunk: ext2 was compiled, but ext3 was module |
| 23:57.57 | beardy | Ugly_Duck: No reason to have that as a module, recompile. |
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| 23:58.10 | beardy | Ugly_Duck: with ext3 in the kernel. |
| 23:58.17 | Ugly_Duck | doing it now |
| 23:58.18 | bztunk | Ugly_Duck: humm ext2 should be able to read ext3 filesystems |
| 23:58.20 | bztunk | Ugly_Duck: IIRC |
| 23:58.23 | Ugly_Duck | thanks |
| 23:58.42 | Azar | I am so dumb, first time I hear about a module called ext3 |
| 23:59.16 | onetinsoldier | beardy: and monaco and all. i'm off to try and compile a custom 2.6.15 kernel. thanks you guys and see you later :-) |
| 23:59.36 | monaco | onetinsoldier, good luck, may the source be with you |
| 23:59.48 | onetinsoldier | thanks |
| 23:59.50 | beardy | omry|work: Good luck, have another working kernel installed, and configured in your bootloader of things go wrong, so you can boot. |
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| 23:59.55 | beardy | if |
| 23:59.56 | Ugly_Duck | lets reboot and see how this goes |
