| 00:00.06 | sebas007 | maher: ok, no trouble. |
| 00:00.22 | dli_ | maher, just give him the link for installation kernel |
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| 00:00.43 | dli_ | maher, it works for me, but I forgot the link |
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| 00:00.56 | sebas007 | anyone know where I could get help on the d-i? (irc channel) |
| 00:00.58 | SonnyBurnett | maher, I can enter now, but it asked me for the system key, not the passphrase |
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| 00:01.00 | teolupus | do you know any tool to check hd integrity? |
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| 00:01.27 | dli_ | teolupus, what is "hd integrity"? |
| 00:01.30 | maher | dli_: sebas007 http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt <-- this one? |
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| 00:01.54 | dli_ | maher, no, a working one, no how to build one |
| 00:02.21 | sebas007 | maher: thanks, I have this page already bookmarked and read. |
| 00:02.22 | _ericb | hmm apt-cache search jboss returns nothing and /msg dpkg jboss don't know about it.. it might be nice to educates dpkg about jboss and how to install it on sarge |
| 00:02.45 | veamos | my gosh!.. I've set a skin for vlc and when I run vlc, it opens two windows.. one with the classic ugly interface and the other one with the default skin.. and I just want one windows! can anybody help me? |
| 00:03.06 | maher | SonnyBurnett: sorry - set ChallengeResponse... back to no - I meant PasswordAuthentication yes |
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| 00:05.03 | maher | sebas007: what hardware do you need a kernel for? |
| 00:05.49 | SonnyBurnett | maher, same thing.. just asks me for the system key |
| 00:06.30 | maher | SonnyBurnett: ddi you restart the sshd on the remote machine? |
| 00:06.31 | SonnyBurnett | maher, btw I'm usign dsa key |
| 00:06.45 | SonnyBurnett | maher, yes of course I restarted itr |
| 00:06.47 | sebas007 | maher: vt8251 sata controler on a mb asus a8v-mx: http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=71754&enterthread=y |
| 00:06.54 | dli_ | SonnyBurnett, disable PubkeyAuthentication |
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| 00:07.49 | SonnyBurnett | dli_, This is for I been asked for the passphrase? |
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| 00:08.00 | dli_ | SonnyBurnett, you want dsa key, and it asks you for the key phrase, I don't see any problem |
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| 00:08.16 | dli_ | SonnyBurnett, how do you want it work? |
| 00:08.35 | SonnyBurnett | dli_, It is not asking me for the passphrase |
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| 00:08.57 | veamos | can I change vlc options by terminal? |
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| 00:10.49 | maher | sebas007: umm.. ok - I dunno where to get a kernel for the hw.... |
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| 00:12.29 | Miesco | When will unstable be stable? :) |
| 00:12.38 | SonnyBurnett | dli_, So?¡ |
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| 00:12.41 | sebas007 | maher: well, it is a build it yourself kernel :) I have one and it works (I see the sata drives). but when I put it in the d-i it... panics! |
| 00:12.44 | visik7 | Miesco: never ? |
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| 00:13.15 | visik7 | Miesco: the next stable will be etch that now is in testing and should be out around december |
| 00:13.35 | maher | sebas007: if you can boot a kernel on the machine which sees the drives can't you just install useing debootstrap.... |
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| 00:14.54 | sebas007 | maher: well, that is another option. I did not want to do it like this because I have other machine to setup soon. |
| 00:16.16 | maher | sebas007: ok - but i don't know how to fix it i'm afraid... |
| 00:16.18 | sebas007 | maher: I wanted to help out other people in my situation with the same hardware by building a d-i supporting this hw. |
| 00:16.43 | dli_ | sebas007, is this hw supported in the latest kernel? |
| 00:16.48 | SonnyBurnett | Which one is better? RSA or DSA authentication? |
| 00:17.15 | sebas007 | dli_: no now, it is not, you need to patch the kernel to have it work. |
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| 00:17.45 | sebas007 | dli_: for what I have read it will be supported soon. |
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| 00:18.12 | dli_ | sebas007, what hw? I will have a look |
| 00:18.15 | maher | sebas007: that's a great idea - you could ask for help on #debian-boot as well |
| 00:19.09 | sebas007 | dli_: vt8251 sata controler on a mb asus a8v-mx |
| 00:19.24 | abrotman | sebas007: does it have a legacy mode? |
| 00:19.25 | sebas007 | dli_: http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=71754&enterthread=y |
| 00:19.35 | dli_ | sebas007, if I give you vmlinuz, initrd, and a squashfs? can you build the booting system? |
| 00:20.02 | sebas007 | abrotman: a legacy mode? (sorry what is that) |
| 00:20.08 | abrotman | in the BIOS .. for the SATA controller |
| 00:20.45 | sebas007 | maher: I will have a look at the #debian-boot thanks. |
| 00:22.08 | sebas007 | dli_: better to have the kernel.deb install it and run the make build_netboot |
| 00:22.11 | jair_11 | the architecture I need to download debian installer netinst is the "hppa" for the hp servers? |
| 00:22.57 | dli_ | sebas007, sorry, but I build my liveusb in gentoo, it's much easier in gentoo to me |
| 00:23.05 | abrotman | jair_11: what model is the HP server? |
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| 00:23.45 | jair_11 | rx4640 and rx2620 :) |
| 00:23.57 | jair_11 | abrotman: rx4640 and rx2620 :) |
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| 00:24.01 | sebas007 | dli_: I have never install gentoo. |
| 00:24.22 | dli_ | sebas007, you can install debian after it boots up |
| 00:24.23 | sebas007 | abrotman: in the bios, I see SATA and ahci |
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| 00:24.48 | sebas007 | dli_: you mean with the d-i ? |
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| 00:25.09 | dli_ | sebas007, yes, you can install debian from a running linux |
| 00:25.40 | sebas007 | dli_: like with deboostrap? you mean? |
| 00:25.51 | dli_ | sebas007, yes |
| 00:26.01 | Hatter | I am trying to configure raid1 with debian sarge using mdadm. if md and raid1 appear in lsmod does that mean they are modules and not compiled in the kernel ? |
| 00:26.17 | abrotman | jair_11: isn't that a P4 system ? |
| 00:26.26 | sebas007 | dli_: I guess but I've never done it. you know how? |
| 00:26.54 | abrotman | jair_11: those are itanium .. hppa is certainly WRONG |
| 00:27.10 | dli_ | sebas007, gentoo is installed via livecd, nothing magic :( |
| 00:27.29 | dli_ | sebas007, check this debian doc, http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/07/msg00235.html |
| 00:27.32 | jair_11 | abrotman: right, sorry, the one I want to install the debian is a Class D 9000 |
| 00:27.45 | jair_11 | abrotman: Class D 9000 hp server |
| 00:27.49 | abrotman | jair_11: make up your mind |
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| 00:28.20 | abrotman | jair_11: that class d 9000 is HPPA |
| 00:28.24 | Coweater | is there any method for adding and removing displays without restarting X? |
| 00:29.00 | jair_11 | abrotman: it use PA-RisC.. that is the processor HPPA right :) |
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| 00:29.08 | jair_11 | abrotman: nice |
| 00:29.27 | jair_11 | everything should be the same than installing a x86 right :) |
| 00:29.45 | scarynetworkguy | jair_11: No.... Read the docs. |
| 00:30.00 | abrotman | jair_11: you really really need to read the install guide for pa-risc |
| 00:30.00 | sebas007 | dli_: thanks, I will look at that. |
| 00:30.02 | abrotman | !ig |
| 00:30.02 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 00:30.06 | scarynetworkguy | IIRC that's not supported but you'll want to read the docs first. |
| 00:31.25 | abrotman | some people just shouldn't have cool hardware :) |
| 00:31.37 | scarynetworkguy | True that. |
| 00:33.08 | orchid | how many packages are avaiable for Debian, is there a rough estimate someplace? |
| 00:33.40 | mythica | damnit |
| 00:33.46 | mythica | i just installed webcam modules |
| 00:33.53 | mythica | but they seem to have taken over /dev/video0 |
| 00:34.17 | mythica | read: Deerror reading from: /dev/video0 & vice or resource busy |
| 00:34.20 | abrotman | orchid: which version ? |
| 00:34.33 | orchid | abrotman: lets go with Sarge |
| 00:34.39 | row | what reason would cause nfs-kernel-server to mount stuff slowly? |
| 00:34.45 | abrotman | !dstats sarge |
| 00:34.45 | row | as in over a min mount time |
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| 00:35.24 | mythica | Device or resource busy |
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| 00:35.31 | mythica | how do i see what is using the device? |
| 00:35.46 | abrotman | fuser or lsof |
| 00:35.48 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 00:35.49 | dpkg | que tal |
| 00:35.54 | row | "/home/jake 192.168.0.20(sync) 192.168.0.21(sync)" |
| 00:36.01 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sarge... 15660 packages, 1471 maintainers, 28170 MB installed size, 8869 MB compressed size. |
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| 00:36.13 | abrotman | orchid: pretty close if not accurate ^^ |
| 00:36.19 | jayeola | orchid: run apt-cache stats |
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| 00:36.29 | orchid | abrotman: holy cow |
| 00:36.37 | abrotman | !dstats sid |
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| 00:37.08 | orchid | jayeola: ah thanks |
| 00:38.02 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sid... 18498 packages, 1678 maintainers, 39973 MB installed size, 12789 MB compressed size. |
| 00:38.08 | abrotman | orchid: for sid/unstable ^^ |
| 00:38.16 | jayeola | orchid: but remember that you can always add repos to you /etc/apt/sources.list and there'll be even more |
| 00:38.21 | Taa5i | Could someone help me with partitioning please? I have three primary partitions and abuot 300MB of free space at the end. I want to create a swap partition and a hardware suspend partition. The swap can be extended, but the hardware must be primary to work it seems. However I cannot make both another primary and another extended partition as best I can tell. Whichever I do first the rest of the space becomes Unusable. Insights please? |
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| 00:38.44 | orchid | jayeola: yeah |
| 00:38.47 | two|face | ok.. so I made a wrong edit in /etc/inittab and now when I boot normally I get an error message and the keyboard is locked so I can't pass the msg, when I boot into recover-mode the drive is mounted as read only therefore I can't unedit /etc/inittab, how can I remount the drive in read/write mode |
| 00:38.50 | orchid | abrotman: yikes |
| 00:39.08 | abrotman | orchid: that's bad? |
| 00:39.34 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, if I'm using DSA keys with ssh, do I have to use the file "authorized_keys" or "authorized_keys2"? |
| 00:39.38 | azeem | two|face: mount / -o remount,rw I thnk |
| 00:39.51 | orchid | abrotman: no, that great |
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| 00:41.39 | two|face | azeem: sweeet man that worked, I have been asking everyone |
| 00:41.55 | abrotman | i would have told you for a lobster! |
| 00:41.58 | two|face | cause I couldn't umount it |
| 00:42.16 | tilrman | Taa5i: I think you're out of luck. :-( The partition table only has room for four primaries or three primaries and an extended. |
| 00:43.08 | Taa5i | tilrman: Is there any way to change an existing Primary partition to Extended? |
| 00:43.21 | two|face | ok next question, what do I edit in /etc/inittab to keep xwindows from loading on boot and when I logout of xwindows |
| 00:43.28 | dli_ | SonnyBurnett, authorized_keys |
| 00:43.52 | abrotman | two|face: you're doing it wrong |
| 00:43.57 | abrotman | !tell two|face about nodb |
| 00:44.00 | abrotman | !tell two|face about nodm |
| 00:44.04 | two|face | ok how shoudl I do it then :) thanks |
| 00:44.15 | tilrman | Taa5i: Not the way you want, unless you move the data. |
| 00:44.22 | SonnyBurnett | dli_, So if I use DSA I just have to leave my ssd_config as it is right? no modifications right? |
| 00:44.22 | abrotman | two|face: you're trying to do the RH way .. not the debian way |
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| 00:45.09 | Hatter | two|face: remove xdm from inittab, will boot to bash prompt |
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| 00:45.30 | dli_ | SonnyBurnett, http://www.sshkeychain.org/mirrors/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO-4.html |
| 00:45.47 | Taa5i | Fair enough, I guess I'll reinstall again and see if I can get it sorted this time. |
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| 00:46.06 | unfo | hi all, i'm starting to use GNU Stow. I'm installing VMware Server beta. I assume that a reasonable place to put it is /usr/local/stow/vmware? |
| 00:46.10 | abrotman | Hatter: xdm is not in inittab |
| 00:46.13 | unfo | Taa5i: reinstall Debian? |
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| 00:46.58 | unfo | Taa5i: I would be curious to see your scrollback if you pasted it to me in a private /msg. |
| 00:47.03 | Hatter | two|face: oops, abrotman is right, i was too hasty, remove xdm from init.d |
| 00:47.10 | abrotman | Hatter: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 00:48.19 | unfo | oops, Taa5i I just logged on w/ nickserv now :/ |
| 00:48.46 | Taa5i | unfo: There's not much to see, it's a very basic console laptop is all. I've reintalled a couple times today trying out different partitioning schemes. |
| 00:48.55 | two|face | well I tried to remove xdm and it said it wasn't installed |
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| 00:49.06 | unfo | Taa5i: I use 1 big partition for everything, it's imperfect but convenient. |
| 00:49.31 | two|face | I also issued the command: update-rc.d -f xdm remove but it didn't make a difference |
| 00:49.38 | unfo | abrotman: why *is* it that Debian doesn't use runlevel 5 for xdm, runlevel 2 for non-xdm? |
| 00:49.42 | Taa5i | unfo: I generally at least like a seperate boot and home partition, var as well for servers. |
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| 00:50.20 | unfo | Taa5i: does it work to tar up everything, repartition, and untar? also, does it save any time to do so? |
| 00:50.43 | Hatter | abrotman: thanks |
| 00:50.47 | abrotman | unfo: maybe you sohuld ask RH why they use 5 |
| 00:50.48 | Taa5i | unfo: Not particularly :p I've got the process down at this point, and not installing X/desktop saves a lot of time. |
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| 00:50.58 | unfo | abrotman: why not? fine, we could use 3/ |
| 00:51.02 | abrotman | two|face: are you using GDM or KDM ? |
| 00:51.06 | unfo | Taa5i: btw your partitioning habits are therefore 2x as elaborate as mine. :) |
| 00:51.25 | abrotman | unfo: traditionally that's for NFS .. but realistically .. you can do whatever you want |
| 00:51.39 | unfo | abrotman: maybe they use 3 or 4 for "yes daemons but no kdm" or something... |
| 00:51.49 | unfo | whats for NFS? |
| 00:51.49 | two|face | abrotman: do you mean gnome or kde? |
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| 00:52.33 | abrotman | two|face: gdm or kdm |
| 00:52.34 | unfo | two|face: sorry to interrupt but GDM is the gnome-themed DM and KDM is the KDE-themed DM. |
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| 00:52.42 | abrotman | two|face: dpkg -l | grep dm ... see anything ? |
| 00:52.54 | minarale | Hi, does anyone here use workrave (for people who have RSIs such as carpal tunnel) |
| 00:52.54 | abrotman | bah .. that's a lot of stuff on mine :) |
| 00:53.05 | drasko | Hi all. Where and how can I apt-get win32codecs? |
| 00:53.13 | maher | drasko: from marillat |
| 00:53.14 | unfo | minarale: i use xwrits. also I use emacs+viper to help my wrists vs. emacs. :) |
| 00:53.14 | two|face | yep gdm |
| 00:53.18 | abrotman | !tell drasko about w32codecs |
| 00:53.21 | unfo | drasko: do you have windows? |
| 00:53.28 | abrotman | two|face: so follow those instructions for gdm instead of xdm |
| 00:53.45 | nile | unfo, I just started using xwrits. awesome software :) |
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| 00:54.26 | two|face | abrotman: ok thanks |
| 00:54.28 | drasko | abrotman, how to ask dpkg about <marillat>? |
| 00:54.35 | minarale | unfo: workrave is similar, but it runs as a server and tracks your 'usage' among different computers... except that I'm trying to run it in a remove gui-less server |
| 00:54.38 | abrotman | unfo: http://www.bellevuelinux.org/runlevel_def.html .. traditionally .. that was it .. you can do whatever you want though |
| 00:54.40 | unfo | nile: i know :) I haven't touched the numerous options on this box, tho I'm debating setting something up so that somehow I can continue coding but so that it bugs me more and more to take a break. |
| 00:54.45 | abrotman | !tell drasko about marillat |
| 00:54.46 | maher | drasko: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:54.50 | DarkJesus | What can I apt-get to unpack archives? |
| 00:54.51 | abrotman | drasko: /msg dpkg <blah> |
| 00:54.52 | drasko | maher, whato put in sources list? |
| 00:54.53 | unfo | minarale: sounds difficult. :) |
| 00:54.59 | abrotman | DarkJesus: what kind? |
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| 00:55.07 | DarkJesus | tar.gz |
| 00:55.15 | maher | drasko: look at the website in the factoid |
| 00:55.20 | abrotman | DarkJesus: man tar |
| 00:55.20 | unfo | DarkJesus: this is the illiterate way to do it: ar x filename.deb |
| 00:55.27 | unfo | DarkJesus: there's a better way tho. |
| 00:55.35 | abrotman | unfo: he didn't ask about a package |
| 00:55.39 | DarkJesus | What about an xarchiver like program |
| 00:55.40 | unfo | DarkJesus: oops, I misread your question. |
| 00:55.57 | unfo | DarkJesus: i use ark |
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| 00:56.20 | unfo | all, i'm starting to use GNU Stow. I'm installing VMware Server beta. I assume that a reasonable place to put it is /usr/local/stow/vmware? |
| 00:56.38 | abrotman | ask #vmware? man stow? put it whereever you want? |
| 00:56.49 | _ericb | anyone knows what application is running behind debian public keyserver (keyring.debian.org) ? I would like to setup something similar |
| 00:57.12 | unfo | i dunno. i wish there was a regular stow user here who could tell me. :) i thought Stow was a common program... |
| 00:57.22 | evaded | DarkJesus: There is : unp - unpack (almost) everything with one command |
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| 00:57.46 | unfo | abrotman: re. runlevels webpage: it seems debian doesn't conform to the spec then. :) |
| 00:57.51 | evaded | DarkJesus: Some time i use that, when i'm to lazy to search :-/ |
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| 00:58.21 | unfo | DarkJesus: tar is easy to use: tar xzvf filename.tar.gz unpacks any tar.gz file. |
| 00:58.28 | abrotman | unfo: iirc .. it's not a spec per se .. just commonly done that way |
| 00:58.40 | unfo | abrotman: ok, s/spec/tradition/ :) |
| 00:59.01 | abrotman | !tell Saais about away |
| 00:59.06 | quebee | tar -zxvf |
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| 00:59.13 | drasko | maher, abrotman THANKS! |
| 00:59.13 | Hatter | unfo: have you used vmware on linux before ? |
| 00:59.16 | abrotman | unfo: you could ask the debian-user mailing list why it's done that way |
| 00:59.18 | unfo | quebee: tar the dash is optional. |
| 00:59.25 | quebee | k |
| 00:59.26 | unfo | Hatter: yes, but I never got the modules built :/ |
| 00:59.43 | maher | _ericb: apt-cache search keyserver... :) |
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| 01:00.22 | abrotman | unfo: but as i said .. you can customize debian's init stuff to go however you want |
| 01:00.24 | unfo | oops s/slrn/gmane |
| 01:00.34 | two|face | hey thanks a lot you guys have been very helpful |
| 01:00.35 | _ericb | maher it only reports onak which doesn't sounds good |
| 01:00.36 | unfo | abrotman: it would be nice if it were pre-customized for me. :) |
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| 01:00.55 | abrotman | unfo: right ... |
| 01:00.55 | unfo | two|face: your problem is solved now? :) |
| 01:01.01 | two|face | yep :) |
| 01:01.03 | nothingman | hi, all! |
| 01:01.07 | two|face | I might have some vnc questions in a few though ;) |
| 01:01.11 | pmazer | i need help, i need to change my mirrors since my current ones don't work, how do i do this? |
| 01:01.11 | nothingman | how do I revert to XFree86 from X.org? |
| 01:01.14 | Hatter | unfo: you have to apt-get the kernel-headers for the kernel you are using |
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| 01:01.35 | dli_ | nothingman, why? downgrading is not recommended |
| 01:01.44 | abrotman | eh |
| 01:01.51 | abrotman | he can purge xorg... |
| 01:02.10 | unfo | Hatter: i am using m-a to do that for me this time. :) |
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| 01:02.21 | dli_ | abrotman, sure, but how to install xfree86 after that? |
| 01:02.21 | maher | pmazer: run apt-setup or edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:02.25 | Hatter | unfo: i don't know what m-a is |
| 01:02.29 | unfo | nothingman: can i ask why you want to downgrade? |
| 01:02.35 | abrotman | dli_: very carefully :) |
| 01:02.38 | nothingman | dli_: TVout works on my laptop with a broken screen that I'm using as a mythfrontend *only* with XFree86 |
| 01:02.38 | unfo | !tell Hatter about module-assistant |
| 01:02.42 | nothingman | it's a Radeon M7 |
| 01:02.54 | nothingman | have not ever gotten it to work with x.org |
| 01:03.02 | pmazer | maher: thanks so much |
| 01:03.17 | nothingman | unless there's news you have for me regarding those particular needs :-P |
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| 01:05.07 | unfo | oops, found it, #debconf |
| 01:05.44 | Hatter | unfo: m-a looks interesting |
| 01:06.23 | unfo | Hatter: it is, but I've found that for me, a newbie on etch, it didn't work flawlessly. |
| 01:06.42 | unfo | I'm sure that for someone more expert who asked for help on IRC it'd work better. |
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| 01:06.48 | unfo | s/who/or who |
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| 01:07.26 | Hatter | unfo: i stick with sarge. |
| 01:07.43 | nothingman | abrotman: how do I purge xorg? |
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| 01:08.13 | abrotman | removing xlibs would be a good start probably |
| 01:08.45 | Hatter | abrotman: have u used raid1 and mdadm on sarge ? after reboot to the md device i get unable to open /dev/console |
| 01:08.55 | EdLin | !u |
| 01:08.55 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:09.01 | k-man | why is apache 2.2 taking so long to get into debian? |
| 01:09.08 | abrotman | Hatter: i don't trust sw raid |
| 01:09.13 | abrotman | k-man: ask the maintainers |
| 01:09.26 | jstr111 | hey guys. I've just installed debian for the first time and it was a painless expeirence, however my monitor resolution wont go any higher than 800,600. is there a way i can fix that? |
| 01:09.28 | Hatter | abrotman: really ? have you seen failures ? |
| 01:09.51 | no0ke | what is vmware |
| 01:09.58 | no0ke | !vmware |
| 01:09.58 | dpkg | somebody said vmware was for 2.6 kernels, download the patches from ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware, read the README, or #vmware, or vmware 5.0 supports 2.6 kernels happily, or offtopic for #debian, being as it is proprietary. You paid for it; get support from the vendor. You DID pay for it, right? |
| 01:10.01 | abrotman | Hatter: no .. just a personal preference |
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| 01:10.34 | bkudria | no0ke: it lets you run a virtual computer |
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| 01:10.59 | Hatter | no0ke: www.vmware.com |
| 01:11.14 | Hatter | I love vmware |
| 01:11.17 | abrotman | #vmware |
| 01:11.18 | Hatter | it's great |
| 01:11.21 | stoned | you can use the free virtual machine player |
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| 01:11.32 | stoned | and virtual disk images you can download for free also |
| 01:11.33 | evaded | or qemu |
| 01:11.34 | unfo | vmware server beta is closed source freeware now. |
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| 01:11.51 | Hatter | unfo: but the license is restrictive |
| 01:11.54 | stoned | why am I talking like yoda |
| 01:11.55 | no0ke | what is virtual computer? |
| 01:12.05 | stoned | no0ke, a computer that is virtual |
| 01:12.12 | Hatter | no0uke: go and read about it. www.vmware.com |
| 01:12.27 | unfo | Hatter: i know :/ |
| 01:12.31 | two|face | ok so does anyone know why when I login to one of my debian boxes with vnc that I only get an xterm(? xwindows shell) and not the rest of the desktop? |
| 01:12.33 | marco13185 | no0ke, it's an OS running within as OS. Basically, you're running linux and you can have any other OS in a window |
| 01:12.38 | abrotman | it's not in debian .. ask #vmware |
| 01:12.57 | unfo | but isn't MS Virtual Server for Windows free now? |
| 01:13.10 | abrotman | not in debian either |
| 01:13.19 | bkudria | lol |
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| 01:13.26 | unfo | so theres compeition now. |
| 01:14.06 | jstr111 | can some one at least tell me were i would configure something like the resolution? |
| 01:14.06 | onetinsoldier | hello. i keep getting a mesage for my filesystems when booting... Superblock last write time is in the future. FIXED. ...anyone have an idea what's going there? |
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| 01:14.13 | abrotman | !drxx jstr111 |
| 01:14.13 | dpkg | jstr111: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:14.22 | abrotman | !ntp |
| 01:14.23 | dpkg | it has been said that ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
| 01:14.23 | Stevie | At the sound of the ping the time will be Sun May 14 21:14:23 2006 *ping* |
| 01:14.27 | veamos | how can I upgrade kde to 3.5? |
| 01:14.30 | jstr111 | thanks heeps |
| 01:15.01 | onetinsoldier | abrotman: was that for me? |
| 01:15.08 | veamos | currently I have 3.3 .. can I upgrade by apt? |
| 01:15.20 | bkudria | veamos: you bet! isn't it cool? |
| 01:15.29 | evaded | veamos: By using 'testing' (Etch) |
| 01:15.35 | veamos | you mean 3.3 is better? |
| 01:15.36 | bkudria | veamos: are you using unstable? |
| 01:15.49 | veamos | stable, sarge. I guess |
| 01:16.06 | bkudria | 3.5 is much better than 3.3 |
| 01:16.25 | veamos | so I want to upgrade 3.3 to 3.5 |
| 01:16.27 | bkudria | switch to testing (etch) or unstable (sid) to upgrade |
| 01:16.30 | quebee | me like 3.5 |
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| 01:17.02 | Rockj | hum, what tools is replaced of hdparam in Debian Etch? |
| 01:17.09 | veamos | mm.. I've never understend testing or unstable therms |
| 01:17.19 | Rockj | or what replaces it? |
| 01:17.22 | veamos | understood, sorry |
| 01:17.26 | dli_ | Rockj, hdparm |
| 01:17.52 | no0ke | marco13185: what's the system requirements? |
| 01:17.58 | Rockj | ahh. though it was hdparam, thats why I dont find it =) |
| 01:18.10 | marco13185 | no0ke, there are none, the faster the better ;) |
| 01:18.19 | no0ke | i see |
| 01:18.21 | marco13185 | no0ke, though you do need a 2.6 kernel |
| 01:18.28 | no0ke | im using 2.6 kernel |
| 01:18.36 | onetinsoldier | hello. i keep getting a mesage for my filesystems when booting... Superblock last write time is in the future. FIXED. ...anyone have an idea what's going there? |
| 01:18.42 | no0ke | its not free though, is it |
| 01:18.46 | Azar | abrotman, you heard/read about the new book : User Mode Linux by Jeff Dike ? |
| 01:18.52 | bkudria | no0ke: no, it isn't... |
| 01:19.47 | Rockj | thanks dli_ =) |
| 01:20.19 | unfo | onetinsoldier: you can find more about the message by googling for it. I get the message often, and I always ignore it. |
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| 01:20.36 | unfo | I am a home user, and plus I know it is not a serious problem. |
| 01:20.39 | evaded | veamos: Yeah, switching to testing is peace of cake, but some times there comes troubles. And it's best that you know so many as possible so that you can solve it. Most time it's not good for newbies. |
| 01:20.56 | unfo | yeah, I wish I were using backports instead of testing. |
| 01:20.59 | bkudria | evaded: he left |
| 01:21.00 | onetinsoldier | unfo: ok, thanks man. i guess i should have looked at google first but i will take a look right now. thanks again. |
| 01:21.20 | unfo | onetinsoldier: np. :) |
| 01:21.38 | evaded | bkudria: I have see it to late. I had forget to press the 'enter' key. Can you believe it? :-/ |
| 01:22.01 | marco13185 | no0ke, it's free as in free beer |
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| 01:22.08 | marco13185 | no0ke, it's not open source |
| 01:22.12 | bkudria | i have so many errors on startup it is not funny |
| 01:22.20 | marco13185 | bkudria, lol |
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| 01:22.32 | Vme | hello |
| 01:22.36 | evaded | Why take it so many time the compilation process? |
| 01:22.44 | unfo | hi |
| 01:22.48 | bkudria | i have some red ones, some with orange *'s, and two kernel oopses that are fixed, but i should reboot |
| 01:22.57 | Vme | is a USB device accessed differently in SID then SARGE? |
| 01:23.02 | bkudria | marco13185: it's not even funny |
| 01:23.05 | evaded | I'm compiling an app and wait, wait, but want mythtv a bit :-/ |
| 01:23.06 | unfo | no0ke: qemu is an open-source alternative to vmware, so it's available via apt-get install qemu |
| 01:23.18 | Vme | i just did a 'mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt' in SARGE, but that doesn't work in SID? |
| 01:23.26 | bkudria | i'm trying to figure out how to install bootsplash to escape the pain |
| 01:23.28 | Vme | i looked at my kernel and i have it compiled |
| 01:23.39 | mythica | I am trying to install quickcam webcam, but when running the installer I get this error: |
| 01:23.40 | mythica | Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions. |
| 01:24.05 | mythica | it says Replace kgcc with the command required for compiling kernels (kgcc is often used in Red Hat systems). |
| 01:24.07 | bkudria | Vme: you shouldn't mount stuff in /mnt, but in /mnt/somedir... |
| 01:24.09 | unfo | mythica: are you using a libre open-source driver? |
| 01:24.09 | mythica | but I dont really know what to do |
| 01:24.19 | mythica | i dont know... |
| 01:24.23 | unfo | oh. |
| 01:24.26 | Vme | bkudria: yea, but that isn't my problem |
| 01:24.31 | mythica | excuse my ignorance, but what is that exactly? |
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| 01:24.54 | Azar | mythica what operating system are you using? |
| 01:25.00 | mythica | i just apt-get'ted the qc-usb-source package |
| 01:25.13 | bkudria | Vme: are you sure? maybe you mounted something else in /mnt? |
| 01:25.13 | mythica | Linux... ? |
| 01:25.13 | Vme | yea |
| 01:25.16 | Vme | i'm positive |
| 01:25.17 | mythica | u mean distro ? |
| 01:25.19 | bkudria | Vme: what exactly is your problem? |
| 01:25.28 | Vme | i don't have a /dev/sda1 device |
| 01:25.29 | Azar | mythica: yes |
| 01:25.35 | EdLin | !u |
| 01:25.36 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:25.36 | mythica | debian |
| 01:25.37 | unfo | mythica: open-source means that the computer "source code", the instructions your computer needs in order to run a program, are given away freely and in a freely redistributable way, so that programs can be modified. |
| 01:25.45 | Azar | mythica: what version of debian? |
| 01:25.53 | mythica | sarge |
| 01:26.11 | unfo | mythica: it seems qc-usb-source *is* open source. it's in Debian's main section. |
| 01:26.16 | Azar | hmmm the k before gcc sounds like a kde gcc |
| 01:26.16 | abrotman | Azar: eh ? |
| 01:26.17 | bkudria | Vme: oh...that is your problem...are you supposed to have an /dev/sda1 device? why? |
| 01:26.29 | abrotman | onetinsoldier: yes .. for you |
| 01:26.34 | mythica | yeah i am running kde |
| 01:26.35 | abrotman | Azar: book on UML? |
| 01:26.41 | Azar | abrotman, yes |
| 01:26.48 | Azar | mythica: did you ever run update/upgrade? |
| 01:26.51 | Vme | in SARGE /dev/sda1 is my USB |
| 01:26.59 | mythica | azar yeah |
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| 01:27.16 | Azar | mythica: because if there is a new version of gcc it will automatically upgrade |
| 01:27.18 | Vme | hrm |
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| 01:27.28 | mythica | yeah so it has now made conflicting versions hey? |
| 01:27.29 | bkudria | Vme: a usb key? and it's "sarge" or "Sarge", not "SARGE"...it's not an acronym |
| 01:27.37 | unfo | sorry got to go all |
| 01:27.38 | mythica | cant i just tell the makefile to use diff version? |
| 01:27.42 | Azar | abrotman: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/05/book-review-user-mode-linux.html |
| 01:27.59 | Azar | mythica: why can't you just get a precompiled kernel? |
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| 01:28.16 | bkudria | Vme: maybe you have another device that is bumping this device to sdb? i recommend using hal/udev for this, actually |
| 01:28.24 | abrotman | Azar: have you read it? |
| 01:28.35 | bkudria | Vme: i can show you how to set that up, in a private chat, if you want |
| 01:28.38 | Azar | abrotman: just the review, just found about it now |
| 01:28.42 | mythica | Azar, whats wrong with the one i am running? |
| 01:28.45 | mythica | "export CC=kgcc" |
| 01:28.53 | mythica | Dont i just need to add that somewhere in the makefile ? |
| 01:28.56 | abrotman | Azar: ah ok |
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| 01:28.58 | Azar | mythica: right, I guess nothing, what is your issue? |
| 01:29.31 | mythica | Azar, well when i run the quickcam installation it throws an error: |
| 01:29.34 | nekron | in my lspci i founded my soundcard, but when i do alsaconf it doesnt found |
| 01:29.39 | mythica | it says Replace kgcc with the command required for compiling kernels (kgcc is often used in Red Hat systems). |
| 01:29.43 | mythica | Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions. |
| 01:29.44 | Azar | mythica: I run sarge as well and I never had an issue with gcc, less to say I never seen a kgcc here |
| 01:29.48 | bkudria | Vme: suh a setup would let you mount /dev/myusbdevice or whatever everytime, and it would always point to the right place |
| 01:29.52 | nekron | i'm usign debian etch |
| 01:29.52 | _Atomo64_ | Hi, I'm trying to make an ntfs hdd readable by the 'users' group, the current options in fstab are 'ro,noexec,gid=users' but when it is mounted the permissions are dr-x------ root users; so, what do I have to do to make it readable by the 'users' group? |
| 01:30.05 | Azar | mythica: I wonder where from you got that kgcc in the first place |
| 01:30.17 | mythica | no idea |
| 01:30.18 | mythica | hehe |
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| 01:30.26 | mythica | well where would I put "export CC=kgcc" exactly in the makefile? |
| 01:30.27 | mythica | any ideas? |
| 01:30.30 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: give it proper permissions...read man mount |
| 01:30.39 | Azar | mythica: my guess you downloaded and installed some non-debian applications |
| 01:30.42 | mythica | Above MODULE_DIR perhaps ? |
| 01:30.48 | mythica | yaeh i could've |
| 01:30.58 | nekron | please anyone help me? |
| 01:31.00 | drasko | hi all. I have Athlon XP and want to install mplayer. Should I use 586 version or k6? |
| 01:31.01 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: I already read everything... but I don't get to make it work |
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| 01:31.17 | Azar | mythica: then that is why your debianized kernel will work with that kgcc that come with some alien application |
| 01:31.19 | nekron | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05) |
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| 01:31.27 | nekron | but alsaconf don't found it |
| 01:31.48 | Azar | mythica: but hey, exploring things is nice keep it up with the good job |
| 01:31.52 | Mardus | BBC World Service TV right now has a story on F/OSS |
| 01:31.55 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: are you sure? read abut the 'users' option |
| 01:32.09 | Mardus | I mean, a show, which is part of a two-part miniseries. |
| 01:32.25 | mythica | Azar, hehe thanks |
| 01:32.29 | Azar | mythica: when you or your system get tired of crap, you at least learned to use debian packages only |
| 01:32.33 | mythica | Azar, puts u in funny situations sometimes though |
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| 01:32.50 | mythica | Azar, lol yeah |
| 01:32.54 | Azar | mythica: I got tired of fiddling with alien packages |
| 01:32.56 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: also. ntfs's uid, gid options and defaults |
| 01:33.01 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: I want to make it readable to a <group>; mounting there's no problem..... |
| 01:33.17 | drasko | hi all. I have Athlon XP and want to install mplayer. Should I use 586 version or k6? |
| 01:33.33 | Azar | k7 is for Athlon |
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| 01:33.39 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: although i know the exact solution to your problem, i'm not going to repeat what is written in the man page, out of principle |
| 01:33.55 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: please read it, and get in the habit in the future |
| 01:34.00 | nekron | please anyone help me :( |
| 01:34.01 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: it really is for the best |
| 01:34.26 | Azar | nekron: sorry I did not see your first request? no sound? |
| 01:34.26 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: I'm already setting the gid! what else do you want me to do??? |
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| 01:34.56 | nekron | Azar: the incridible.. the sound of kde is running.. |
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| 01:35.06 | menko_ | hello people, does anyone know of a program that functions as a graphical calculator |
| 01:35.10 | nekron | sorry my english.. but when i use alsaconf he can't found |
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| 01:35.16 | menko_ | ? |
| 01:35.24 | Azar | nekron: ah sorry I never run kde.... but I got sound with alsa on a simple X setting |
| 01:35.29 | nekron | in alsa reload.. FATAL: Error running install command for snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:35.31 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: it seems the gid isn't enough, since the permissions are 'r-x------': that's read, execute, to the owner (root, in this case), and nothing else to anybody else |
| 01:35.48 | xst | I have a strange cron problem. I have made a crontab file in /etc/cron.d/myfile and restarted cron. The myfile crontab contains a line "* * * * * nobody touch /tmp/test" but for some reason "crontab -u nobody -l" claims that nobody has no crontab and there is also no "test" file in /tmp. What have I done wrong |
| 01:35.52 | Azar | nekron: first what sound card you got ? type lspci and read at Multimedia line |
| 01:36.03 | mythica | sweet i sorted it out |
| 01:36.07 | nekron | 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05) |
| 01:36.09 | mythica | just ran export CC=kgcc along with command |
| 01:36.12 | nekron | the module is intel8x0 |
| 01:36.20 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: so, either chnage the owner with uid (not reccommend), or change the permission mask with umask (recommended) |
| 01:36.20 | nekron | but when i use modprobe intel8x0 |
| 01:36.31 | nekron | FATAL: Module intel8x0 not found. |
| 01:36.47 | nekron | in lspci show normal.. :( |
| 01:36.54 | mythica | how do i check what version i compiled my kernel with ? |
| 01:36.55 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: what would be the value of umask? umask=010 ? |
| 01:37.14 | mythica | found it nm |
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| 01:37.18 | Azar | nekron: you need to blacklist the intel8x0 (is an oss module) then add in /etc/modules the snd_intel8x0 ( which is the alsa one) |
| 01:37.22 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: please google it |
| 01:37.39 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: and man chmod has some useful info too |
| 01:37.41 | nekron | Azar: how i do this? |
| 01:37.44 | Azar | nekron: hold on a minute ok? |
| 01:37.50 | nekron | Azar: ok |
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| 01:39.16 | kbrooks | OUT AND ABOUT |
| 01:39.22 | nekron | another curiosity, the alsamixer opens normal.. with the name of my card in top |
| 01:39.28 | nekron | Azar: heiaea :( |
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| 01:40.02 | mythica | my gcc compiler is trying to run with 4, but i compiled with 3.4.5 |
| 01:40.12 | mythica | what would the correct syntax be to use 3.4.5? |
| 01:40.24 | mythica | eg: ./quickcamsetup.sh export=gcc3.4.5 |
| 01:40.35 | mythica | "gcc3.4.5" part that i am hazy on |
| 01:40.42 | mythica | cos it is saying that gcc3.4.5 doesnt exist |
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| 01:40.59 | Azar | nekron: i810_audio is the oss module: in /etc/modules, if you see it , comment it out # so it will not be loaded at bootup. for now... wait a bit more |
| 01:41.34 | mythica | nm worked it out it was "gc-3.4" |
| 01:41.36 | mythica | "_ |
| 01:41.36 | mythica | :) |
| 01:42.10 | Azar | nekron, your alsa module (which you need) is snd_intel8x0 and should be added to your /etc/modules |
| 01:42.32 | nothingman | OK, another apt-related question |
| 01:42.55 | nothingman | how do I update to sysv-rc from the old system? |
| 01:43.07 | nothingman | I get only errors about replacing files' |
| 01:43.11 | nekron | in /etc/modules i don't find the oss module |
| 01:43.26 | nekron | alias i810_audio off << in modules.conf |
| 01:43.26 | Azar | nekron: when you finish disabling the oss module, type here: /msg dpkg alsa and follow the link |
| 01:43.36 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: the thing is that when I try umask=010 it gives 'dr-xr--r-x' but I just want it to make it readable to the group and not to others... |
| 01:43.59 | Mardus | nekron: Azar meant that i810 is the open source module in /etc/modules |
| 01:44.04 | Mardus | I think... |
| 01:44.08 | nekron | Azar: in xmms i'm hearings sounds with alsa out |
| 01:44.14 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: do you understand what umask is? |
| 01:44.23 | Azar | nekron: in /etc/hotplug there is a file: blacklist. You can add your oss module there. |
| 01:44.30 | nekron | *hearing.. and again, sorry my english |
| 01:44.31 | nekron | hnm |
| 01:44.32 | nekron | ok |
| 01:44.33 | Azar | nekron: me too |
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| 01:44.36 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: I tink so |
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| 01:44.44 | D13GU___ | hi all! what is? Kernel Panic: "Attempted to kill the edle task! In idle task not synscing" |
| 01:44.55 | Azar | nekron: if xmms works with alsa for you, then it should work ok |
| 01:45.09 | mythica | hmm this is odd |
| 01:45.16 | mythica | my camera shows up when using lsusb |
| 01:45.26 | nekron | Azar: yeah |
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| 01:45.29 | nekron | but in amarok not |
| 01:45.31 | mythica | but the quickcam driver install doesnt find it |
| 01:45.33 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: read man chmod...it tells you about the number/octal form of specifying permissions...the umask is subtracted from 777 to determine the permissions in octal form |
| 01:45.34 | mythica | "[!] Didn't find compatible cameras." |
| 01:45.38 | nekron | and the alsaconf don't find the card |
| 01:45.49 | nekron | i need do this work perfect |
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| 01:46.05 | Azar | nekron: I do not know what amarok is but it might also be that you did not add your username to that "group" ? or application? rights to use it? |
| 01:46.07 | mythica | hmmm any ideas? What else could I check |
| 01:46.39 | Azar | maybe you need to tell amarok to use alsa? |
| 01:46.43 | Azar | like you did with xmms? |
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| 01:47.09 | Azar | kde, gnome bitches, too much work for me |
| 01:48.29 | nekron | modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/modules.dep |
| 01:48.34 | jonaskoelker | I want to tell apt "don't install *version $x* of package $y". AFAICT, I should say (in /etc/apt/preferences): "Package: $y \n Pin: version $x \n Pin-priority: -1"? Did I get that right? It doesn't seem to work |
| 01:48.39 | quebee | a little bitch here and there is a good thing |
| 01:48.39 | nekron | Azar: i do this |
| 01:48.51 | nekron | i want resolve this problems.. why it happens? |
| 01:48.52 | nekron | modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/modules.dep |
| 01:48.58 | onetinsoldier | should i build an smp kernel for a hyperthreaded cpu? i get a warning message about... limit reached cpu #1 ignored. cpu #0 is ok accepted of course. |
| 01:49.01 | sortadi | nekron: please repeat |
| 01:49.28 | Azar | nekron: you use applications I am not experienced with sorry, if xmms works with alsa, then is your new application needs taken care of |
| 01:49.43 | nekron | but alsaconf don't found the card |
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| 01:49.52 | Azar | nekron: maybe ask in kde, I do not know kde |
| 01:50.08 | nekron | but this is not kde |
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| 01:50.21 | nekron | if the alsaconf found the card the amarok will work |
| 01:50.25 | cheatersrealm | did mkraid get replaced, and if so, what is it now. If mkraid was not replaced, what package is it in? |
| 01:50.32 | stoned | just stick a K before any application name, you got a kde app |
| 01:50.34 | stoned | :/ |
| 01:50.39 | cheatersrealm | krap ? |
| 01:50.43 | stoned | indeed |
| 01:50.46 | lostson | use mpd much nicer and doesnt crash as much |
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| 01:50.55 | dan0man | hello |
| 01:50.57 | sortadi | nekron: please let me know about your problem once more |
| 01:51.08 | sortadi | nekron: i could have a bit of a clue about it |
| 01:51.16 | Azar | nekron: what I mean is: if xmms works ok with alsa, then alsa is loaded and working in the system, is that crappy amarok whatever it is that does not want to take it |
| 01:51.28 | dan0man | what's the best tool to pull all my songs off my ipod and rename them according to their id3 tags (or whatever aac uses) |
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| 01:51.36 | nekron | Azar: so why the alsaconf don't found? |
| 01:51.40 | stoned | Azar, so you have amarok problems? what version? |
| 01:51.41 | mythica | how do you see what devices are bound to |
| 01:51.44 | nekron | sortadi: the problem is |
| 01:51.51 | Azar | nekron: maybe sortadi can help you |
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| 01:51.56 | nekron | sortadi: the modules of alsa.. i can't load.. |
| 01:51.57 | mythica | eg: I want to see what hardware /dev/video0 is set to |
| 01:52.01 | sortadi | Azar: maybe his xmms is set to oss |
| 01:52.03 | bkudria | dan0man: i don't know about pulling, but krename has a nice graphical way to rename mp3 files according to id3 tags |
| 01:52.09 | sortadi | and he has oss working instead of alsa |
| 01:52.13 | nekron | debian:/home/caue# modprobe snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:52.13 | nekron | FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 not found. |
| 01:52.13 | nekron | FATAL: Error running install command for snd_intel8x0 |
| 01:52.16 | Azar | sortadi: possible too |
| 01:52.16 | bkudria | dan0man: i use it all the time |
| 01:52.27 | dan0man | bkudira: cool thanks, I'll check it out |
| 01:52.29 | stoned | easytag is by far the best |
| 01:52.30 | nekron | the xmms is set to alsa.. i do this |
| 01:52.32 | sortadi | nekron: using which distro? |
| 01:52.35 | bkudria | dan0man: sure |
| 01:52.37 | Azar | nekron: try install alsa again : /msg dpkg alsa |
| 01:52.37 | sortadi | nekron: debian etch? |
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| 01:52.51 | nekron | sortadi: yeah |
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| 01:53.05 | sortadi | well in etch it should work out of the box |
| 01:53.19 | sortadi | try reconfiguring/reinstalling alsa |
| 01:53.26 | lostson | damn you azureus |
| 01:53.57 | bkudria | stoned: ick. gtk :) |
| 01:53.58 | sortadi | by the way nekron |
| 01:54.08 | sortadi | are you loading the correct modules? |
| 01:54.14 | stoned | bkudria, yeh, I don't get on bandwagons, whatever works man |
| 01:54.24 | nekron | i think so |
| 01:54.36 | bkudria | stoned: true, that |
| 01:54.36 | sortadi | nekron: which is your soundcard? |
| 01:54.41 | Azar | nekron: audio applications like xmms and others do not have alsa setup by default, most likely they install with oss: you need to install alsa, configure it, then go to your audio application and look for Options Menu and switch to Alsa |
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| 01:54.58 | nekron | but in setup i changed |
| 01:55.00 | nekron | Azar: |
| 01:55.13 | nekron | sortadi: 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio (rev 05) |
| 01:55.27 | bkudria | nekron: in amarok, this is under the engine icon in the settings...i use the xine engine, and it has an option for alsa... |
| 01:55.29 | sortadi | nekron: are you on kde? |
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| 01:55.34 | Azar | sortadi: he has an oss of i810_audio and a snd-intel8x0 for alsa |
| 01:55.45 | nekron | sortadi: yes |
| 01:55.55 | bkudria | nekron: if you have the arts selected somehow, it can be set to use alsa in kcontrol |
| 01:56.10 | sortadi | nekron: if on kde go to control center - sound system |
| 01:56.26 | gercel | guys, i configured a debian firewall in a lan with 2 clientes (1 linux, 1 windows). I cant connect my MSN in the windows client... Can anyone help me? |
| 01:56.26 | nekron | i only want that in alsaconf he found my card :( |
| 01:56.29 | sortadi | and then set it to Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) |
| 01:57.08 | bkudria | nekron: alsaconf doesn't find your card? strange...then amarok isn't the problem |
| 01:57.25 | sortadi | nekron: that on etch should work straight out of the box |
| 01:57.38 | sortadi | nekron: why don't you just try installing alsa back? |
| 01:57.49 | nekron | install again? |
| 01:57.51 | sortadi | yes |
| 01:57.57 | sortadi | aptitude remove alsa |
| 01:57.58 | sortadi | then |
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| 01:58.03 | sortadi | aptitude install alsa |
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| 01:58.11 | sortadi | and the rest of the packages needed |
| 01:58.23 | sortadi | by the way |
| 01:58.28 | sortadi | which kernel are you onto? |
| 01:58.36 | nekron | i installed the 2.6.x |
| 01:58.44 | nekron | hey, remove alsa don't work |
| 01:58.50 | nekron | he don't remove |
| 01:58.55 | sortadi | ??? |
| 01:59.01 | sortadi | what does it tell you? |
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| 01:59.26 | sortadi | nekron: etch comes with 2.6.x by default |
| 01:59.33 | sortadi | i am asking what the X is in your OS |
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| 02:00.08 | nekron | sortadi: i installed the debian and don't installed packages.. i changed the stable to etch. update. upgrade.. |
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| 02:00.15 | nekron | the kernel was 2.4 |
| 02:00.18 | quebee | my os is debian unstable |
| 02:00.34 | sortadi | well nekron that's a start then |
| 02:00.37 | quebee | he wants to know what you are using |
| 02:00.42 | sortadi | that could be the source of all problems |
| 02:00.45 | nekron | sortadi: if i open ssh |
| 02:00.47 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: ok, now I can access from my current user, but now that I'm trying to access to the mountpoint it doesn't let me. Both we are in the 'users' group. Now what could be happening? |
| 02:00.49 | k-man | how does one put a custom header in an email in thunderbird? |
| 02:00.51 | vitry | hi people: I have a problem. I don't have any defined rules in iptables, but when make a ping to loopback, the packets are filtered |
| 02:01.01 | nekron | sortadi: can you see the problem? |
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| 02:01.10 | sortadi | nekron: pastebin |
| 02:01.12 | nekron | i think that you undertand more than i.. hehe |
| 02:01.26 | sortadi | nekron: what does it say when you try to remove alsa? |
| 02:01.29 | sgeigerbot | !dpkg xorg |
| 02:01.29 | dpkg | i guess xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 02:01.31 | nekron | you could see the problems betters;; |
| 02:01.38 | sgeigerbot | !get xorg |
| 02:01.38 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 02:01.39 | nekron | nothing.. nothing happened |
| 02:01.52 | nekron | 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos e 30 não atualizados. |
| 02:02.00 | nekron | *my debian is in portuguese |
| 02:02.08 | nekron | 0 removed |
| 02:02.11 | sortadi | nekron then you have no alsa installed |
| 02:02.15 | sortadi | you need to install it |
| 02:02.22 | nekron | but the install alsa |
| 02:02.24 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: sorry, what? check the permissions? |
| 02:02.27 | sortadi | nekron: first aptitude search alsa |
| 02:02.31 | sortadi | nekron. NO |
| 02:02.44 | nekron | i have installed alsa-base |
| 02:02.46 | sortadi | nekron: te systeem is telling you there's no alsa at all |
| 02:02.55 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: it doesn't let me access when using the other user |
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| 02:03.14 | nekron | 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos e 30 não atualizados. |
| 02:03.19 | sortadi | nekron: aptitude search alsa |
| 02:03.21 | nekron | is in install alsa.. 0 installed |
| 02:03.24 | sortadi | and pastebin it |
| 02:03.34 | nekron | v alsa - |
| 02:03.41 | nekron | and others |
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| 02:04.15 | nekron | sortadi: can i paste in your pvt? |
| 02:04.20 | sortadi | yes |
| 02:04.21 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: what are the permissions? |
| 02:04.53 | Azar | he can't remove alsa while is loaded |
| 02:05.23 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria:dr--r--r-x (even when normally it should be dr--r---x) root:users |
| 02:05.35 | Azar | !alsa one-liner |
| 02:05.35 | dpkg | from memory, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 02:05.42 | Azar | nekron: do that |
| 02:06.10 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: be aware that 'x' on a directory prevents you from entering it...is this your issue? |
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| 02:06.18 | nekron | ./etc/inid.d/alsa unload? |
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| 02:06.42 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: but I can access from this user... and not from the other one |
| 02:06.42 | Azar | nekron: I guess if you install it again won't hurt |
| 02:06.43 | sortadi | nekron: try installing alsa-headers |
| 02:06.46 | sortadi | and alsa-utils |
| 02:07.08 | sortadi | nekron: also alsa-tools |
| 02:07.15 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: then your problem is with the groups...are you sure both are in the group? |
| 02:07.32 | Azar | nekron: aptitude install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
| 02:07.33 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: yes |
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| 02:08.26 | nekron | same problem |
| 02:08.29 | Mardus | Azar: nekron can't remove alsa, because it's loaded into his memory? |
| 02:08.29 | Mardus | Azar: * into his computer's RAM |
| 02:08.29 | sortadi | nekron: if not you should clean up your sources.list file (that means leaving only testing sources) and then re-update |
| 02:08.31 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: then it should work...i assume you are getting a permission denied error? |
| 02:08.38 | sortadi | nekron: maybe you have a mess there |
| 02:08.57 | Azar | ok nekron what is alsaconf telling you? |
| 02:09.19 | nekron | Azar: can i paste in your pvt? |
| 02:09.26 | Azar | nekron: use a paster |
| 02:09.28 | Azar | !paster |
| 02:09.28 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 02:09.59 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria:yeah,... but the weird thing is that if I do 'ls /mnt/hda1/' it works, but when I try to browse that dir with konqueror, it doesn't works |
| 02:10.17 | nekron | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2542 |
| 02:10.46 | bkudria | _Atomo64_: very strange...ask in #kde :) |
| 02:10.52 | Mardus | The BBC show about F/OSS was nice: interviewing the regular pundits, including the MS Europe guy, who seemed to spread FUD Light. |
| 02:10.57 | Dwonis | egad, Slashdot is a terrible place to get legal advice |
| 02:11.20 | Azar | nekron: are you doing alsaconf as root? or as user? |
| 02:11.23 | abrotman | Dwonis: better than #debian ? :) |
| 02:11.25 | nekron | root |
| 02:11.52 | _Atomo64_ | bkudria: ok,.... Iwhile they answer me I'll try to check if other apps can't browse too |
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| 02:12.02 | Mardus | Dwonis: What advice did egad ask for? |
| 02:12.02 | Dwonis | abrotman: I dunno. Does #debian suggest that people possibly-violate the GPL now and ask questions later? |
| 02:12.10 | Dwonis | Mardus: heh |
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| 02:12.29 | abrotman | Dwonis: we do it every day! |
| 02:12.40 | Dwonis | abrotman: well, #debian is still better |
| 02:12.47 | nekron | :( |
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| 02:13.04 | Azar | nekron: I have no idea why cannot open /lib/modules/2.5.15-1686/modules.dep |
| 02:13.06 | nekron | do I any error when i installed etch? |
| 02:13.27 | Dwonis | Azar: did you run "depmod -a" ? |
| 02:13.29 | sortadi | nekron: the modules seem to be there |
| 02:13.33 | nekron | because this is very stranger. |
| 02:13.42 | sortadi | nekron: have you ran alsamixer? |
| 02:13.45 | Azar | nekron: do what Dwonis said |
| 02:13.54 | nekron | debian:/etc/init.d# depmod -a |
| 02:13.54 | nekron | debian:/etc/init.d# |
| 02:14.20 | Mardus | abrotman: "violate GPL now and ask questions later" is a nice profit motive for any active copyright holder of GPL code, as has happened with some kernel coders, who have brought successful suits against some h/w companies. |
| 02:14.21 | Azar | nekron: cd to root and do that |
| 02:14.34 | sortadi | nekron: maybe your problem is just the muted channels |
| 02:14.42 | sortadi | or the low volume levels |
| 02:14.45 | nekron | Azar: the same.. |
| 02:14.49 | Dwonis | Mardus: hah! |
| 02:15.05 | nekron | the problem is that alsaconf don't found the card |
| 02:15.10 | nekron | i olny want this :( |
| 02:15.15 | Azar | nekron: I have no idea what happened there... the new kernel should have got the modules, but it seems not |
| 02:15.19 | abrotman | Mardus: i was joking |
| 02:15.29 | Dwonis | yeah, especially because we all want to know "if the GPL will hold up in court" |
| 02:15.40 | Dwonis | because it's *so* unclear |
| 02:15.41 | Mardus | abrotman: I know. |
| 02:15.51 | Azar | Mardus: did you read about the latest with the live cd for gentoo with nvidia/ati built in the binary? juicy |
| 02:16.06 | Mardus | Azar: Any link? |
| 02:16.14 | Azar | sure, one sec |
| 02:16.45 | Mardus | abrotman: At least the companies were forced to publish the source. Now if only the GPL license contained financial penalties in addition to being forced to publish the source code. |
| 02:16.49 | dli_ | Azar, what's the link for gentoo :( |
| 02:17.00 | Azar | with abrotman permission :) /. http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/14/2059242&from=rss |
| 02:17.10 | Mardus | Azar: Thanks |
| 02:17.19 | Dwonis | I don't know if it's a GPL violation or not, but I find it somewhat disturbing that a lot of slashbots like to blame *the GPL* for their legal troubles |
| 02:17.37 | dli_ | how to get the bios boot menu of an asus laptop? |
| 02:17.37 | abrotman | Azar: stop reading slashdot! |
| 02:17.53 | Azar | Dwonis: me thinks is nvidia and ati are proprietary code, they should not be "bundled" with GPL code |
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| 02:18.02 | Azar | :) abrotman, ok |
| 02:18.18 | Dwonis | Azar: I agree in principle, though the *legality* of it probably depends on technical details |
| 02:18.23 | abrotman | Azar: at least you didn't deny it this time :) |
| 02:18.34 | Dwonis | Azar: like how is the nvidia "glue layer" licensed |
| 02:18.42 | Azar | but as usual what can we say about gentoo? chaos nothing else |
| 02:19.06 | nekron | Azar: why i can't remove alsa? |
| 02:19.08 | Azar | Dwonis: I was reading last night a very interesting dispute about nvidia compliance with GPL |
| 02:19.14 | nekron | using aptitude remove |
| 02:19.15 | Azar | .. not at /. ofcourse |
| 02:19.22 | Mardus | Azar: The project was not about Gentoo, but Kororaa |
| 02:20.02 | EdLin | Mardus: North or South? |
| 02:20.30 | Dwonis | Azar: was it the article linked to by slashdot (http://kororaa.org/index.php?entry=entry060512-160752)? |
| 02:20.41 | Dwonis | Azar: that one had worse legal theories than /. |
| 02:20.58 | Mardus | EdLin: Well, the Slashdot story talked about Kororaa, which did use Gentoo. |
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| 02:21.18 | Dwonis | Azar: wrong link; should be http://kororaa.org/comments.php?y=06&m=05&entry=entry060512-160752 |
| 02:21.26 | EdLin | Mardus: I know that, I was just taking an opportunity to make a pun, as usual |
| 02:21.34 | Dwonis | my favourite: "What a bunch of BS. The guy who sent you the email is a total jackass (or Jack's ass, as one may say). I guess he has too much time on his hands. I request you to igonre his email and get on with doing what you like doing best... " |
| 02:21.42 | no0ke | can you install linux on windows or vice versa with vmware? |
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| 02:22.03 | Dwonis | We should replace debian-legal with a blootbot that just replies with that |
| 02:22.14 | Coweater | no0ke: yes |
| 02:22.15 | Dwonis | no0ke: on i386, yes |
| 02:22.26 | no0ke | i see |
| 02:22.29 | Dwonis | no0ke: and possibly amd64, I think |
| 02:22.54 | Mardus | EdLin: Well, I don't know your personality in this channel yet anyway. |
| 02:23.12 | davidh | hi there. Need help. When I open my screen resolution, it only shows 800X600 and 640x840. But actually my monitor has higher rssolution. Does anybody know how to change |
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| 02:23.26 | EdLin | Mardus: I'm not too new here |
| 02:23.44 | Mardus | EdLin: I just visit rarely enough not to remember anyone by name. |
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| 02:24.07 | EdLin | !drxx davidh |
| 02:24.07 | dpkg | davidh: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:24.10 | Dwonis | other legal theories include, 'well everybody else is doing it' |
| 02:25.06 | Mardus | EdLin: Well, I do remember some people, like abrotman, Phated, Tarzeau, I think also ngv and a handful of others. |
| 02:25.10 | nekron | Azar: in your pc the package "alsa" is there? |
| 02:25.13 | nekron | only "alsa" |
| 02:25.34 | abrotman | Mardus: eh ? |
| 02:25.36 | EdLin | Mardus: yes, those are more regular than me. |
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| 02:25.47 | Mardus | EdLind: See... |
| 02:25.55 | abrotman | mardus is from estonia! |
| 02:25.55 | _ericb | is there a way to install a dummy java VM and install my own vm so packages are happy ? |
| 02:25.57 | davidh | Edlin: Do I type command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:25.58 | davidh | '? |
| 02:26.05 | Rodietze | any Debian repository for Java / Eclipse MOno ?? |
| 02:26.15 | sid | !tell Rodietze about java-package |
| 02:26.17 | EdLin | davidh: read the factoid |
| 02:26.25 | Mardus | abrotman: I am, but why such an announcement? |
| 02:26.34 | abrotman | Mardus: it's not really .. anyone could do a /whois :) |
| 02:26.47 | Rodietze | sid: thank u |
| 02:26.48 | abrotman | Rodietze: for sarge? |
| 02:26.51 | Rodietze | yes |
| 02:26.51 | EdLin | !u |
| 02:26.51 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:26.55 | davidh | EdLin: Do I type 'man factid' |
| 02:26.55 | Mardus | abrotman: I meant to ask what the point of your announcement was. |
| 02:27.15 | EdLin | davidh: by factoid I meant what dpkg the bot said |
| 02:27.16 | abrotman | Mardus: just that i remember when you first started coming in here .. and you actually told us that's where you were from :) |
| 02:27.23 | Rodietze | sid heh don't be that boring :P |
| 02:27.30 | Dwonis | Sunday! |
| 02:27.43 | abrotman | i thought eclipse was in sid |
| 02:27.46 | Rodietze | sid !polite :D |
| 02:28.03 | davidh | EdLin: davidh@GAINTPANDA:~$ dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:28.04 | davidh | dpkg: conflicting actions --control and --remove |
| 02:28.25 | Mardus | abrotman: That had to be the Autumn of 2004. |
| 02:28.25 | Mardus | abrotman: Maybe Spring, too. |
| 02:28.37 | EdLin | davidh: type in, as root, precisely what dpkg said - no extra spaces, and su'd to root as instructed. |
| 02:28.43 | gravity | davidh: two dashes |
| 02:28.45 | abrotman | Mardus: i just remember you starting to come in .. don't remember when :) |
| 02:28.48 | EdLin | davidh: I'm not here to teach you how to read |
| 02:28.49 | Dwonis | !comfort EdLin |
| 02:28.50 | dpkg | There, there, EdLin. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 02:29.18 | Dwonis | gravity: hah |
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| 02:30.13 | abrotman | your machine is really named GAINTPANDA ? |
| 02:30.22 | Mardus | abrotman: Autumn of 2004 (when I first installed the system on my HDD) and then Spring 2005, when I set the sytem up into P120. I think I was on a console diet for a few weeks, because of X and the video card. |
| 02:30.30 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:30.30 | davidh | EdLin: GAINTPANDA:~# dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:30.31 | davidh | dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure |
| 02:30.38 | abrotman | your machine is really named GAINTPANDA ? |
| 02:30.40 | gravity | er... shit |
| 02:30.44 | nekron | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 02:30.44 | Dwonis | oh man... |
| 02:30.46 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:30.48 | nekron | why this now? :( |
| 02:30.48 | EdLin | davidh: "dpkg-reconfigure" *WHAT THE BOT SAID* |
| 02:30.50 | gravity | davidh: Sorry, "dpkg-reconfigure" one dash |
| 02:30.52 | gravity | davidh: No space |
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| 02:31.11 | gravity | heh |
| 02:31.29 | Dwonis | gravity: which script? |
| 02:31.31 | abrotman | i want to know why his machine is named GAINTPANDA |
| 02:32.15 | davidh | EdLin: What X Server driver should I use, default to vesa |
| 02:32.16 | gravity | Dwonis: The one triggered by "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" |
| 02:32.18 | Dwonis | abrotman: because it's Sunday |
| 02:32.24 | Mardus | abrotman: re GAINTPANDA -- common typo, which stuck. Like 'teh', as in 'teh h2xx0rs' |
| 02:32.25 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:32.31 | EdLin | davidh: depends on what video card you have |
| 02:32.38 | abrotman | Mardus: eh .. he's pasting |
| 02:32.51 | Dwonis | gravity: ah. I wasn't sure if it was that, or if you've written yourself an autoresponding bot for IRC ;) |
| 02:32.54 | Mardus | abrotman: Oh well, I wasn't looking. |
| 02:32.58 | gravity | heh |
| 02:33.12 | gravity | No... these days I don't have time to work on much other than X |
| 02:33.22 | davidh | EdLin: How di I find out? |
| 02:33.26 | gravity | Although I want to hack up a feature for whereami soon |
| 02:33.35 | abrotman | gravity: the 915 bug will be fixed with next upload or with 7.1 ? |
| 02:34.07 | EdLin | davidh: your video card should be mentioned somewhere in your computer's manuals. |
| 02:34.27 | Dwonis | EdLin: ha. hahahahahaha! |
| 02:34.28 | EdLin | davidh: or you can run X -configure to autodetect, but don't use the file that spits out. |
| 02:34.39 | abrotman | lspci ? |
| 02:34.59 | Dwonis | abrotman: no, isapnp |
| 02:35.00 | Mardus | abrotman: About 15-30 minutes ago I saw a BBC World Service show about free/open source. They have a second part next week and a repeat around 10:30 EET/EEST. They even flashed the Debian name there... |
| 02:35.21 | EdLin | davidh: listen to abrotman's suggestian, lspci would help |
| 02:35.35 | abrotman | lspci | grep -i vga |
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| 02:36.08 | abrotman | Mardus: i don't get bbc .. well .. i get the G-rated version |
| 02:36.10 | sid | RogueJedi: The query isn't coming back...where there is info in the blank |
| 02:36.38 | Mardus | abrotman: I didn't understand the joke... |
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| 02:36.54 | abrotman | Mardus: in .us .. our BBC isn't the same as yours ... |
| 02:37.02 | Dwonis | abrotman: BBC Kids? |
| 02:37.10 | Mardus | Dwonis: LOL. |
| 02:37.20 | dutchee | hola muchachos |
| 02:37.28 | abrotman | !es |
| 02:37.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:37.29 | Dwonis | three, two, one |
| 02:37.32 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah, that's the plan |
| 02:37.37 | Mardus | abrotman: Oh yea, the U.S. version. |
| 02:37.37 | gravity | abrotman: It may be a while though |
| 02:37.38 | abrotman | gravity: eh .. which one? :) |
| 02:37.40 | dingus7 | I am new to bash scripting, what whould be the best way to check perodicly for a directory change on a system that only has cron.daly |
| 02:37.46 | gravity | abrotman: You mean the GL one? |
| 02:37.58 | abrotman | gravity: dri bug .. yes .. |
| 02:38.05 | gravity | abrotman: Then yeah |
| 02:38.07 | abrotman | gravity: which .. upload or 7.1 ? |
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| 02:38.12 | gravity | abrotman: 7.1 |
| 02:38.14 | abrotman | that's not a yes/no question :) |
| 02:38.16 | Halitherses | Does anyone know why I would be getting the folowing error in my messages log? : Xprt_64: cat: /var/run/Xprt_0.pid: No such file or directory. My processor is an athlon xp not an amd 64. |
| 02:38.17 | abrotman | gravity: ah ok |
| 02:38.21 | gravity | abrotman: Which will be the next i810 upload anyway |
| 02:38.23 | dutchee | Linux version 2.6.10-5-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)) #1 Mon Oct 10 11:15:41 UTC 2005 |
| 02:38.32 | dutchee | Does anyone know which build this is? |
| 02:38.33 | abrotman | dutchee: #ubuntu |
| 02:38.40 | caue | Azar: ahaaa! now i installed the new kernel again, e show a mess that i want that you see.. |
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| 02:38.44 | davidh | EdLin: abrotman: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11) ??? |
| 02:38.45 | dutchee | Is it the warty warthop? |
| 02:38.52 | gravity | dutchee: We don't know. Ask in #ubuntu |
| 02:38.56 | EdLin | davidh: use the "nv" driver |
| 02:38.57 | abrotman | dutchee: please go to #ubuntu .. or #ubuntu-es |
| 02:39.00 | Halitherses | abrotman, i fixed my php problem yesterday |
| 02:39.00 | dutchee | oh |
| 02:39.02 | dutchee | sorry |
| 02:39.04 | gravity | dutchee: They can help you there |
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| 02:39.07 | abrotman | Halitherses: what was it ? |
| 02:39.08 | dutchee | I'm on my way |
| 02:39.13 | gravity | cool |
| 02:39.17 | dutchee | thanks. |
| 02:39.28 | abrotman | gravity: so the next upload to unstable will be 7.1 ? |
| 02:39.38 | gravity | abrotman: For i810, yeah |
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| 02:39.43 | abrotman | gravity: ah ok |
| 02:39.49 | minarale | I'm having a hard time executing a program in my flash drive... is this disabled somewhere / somehow ? |
| 02:40.01 | Dwonis | abrotman: but ubuntu is based on Debian! |
| 02:40.02 | gravity | abrotman: I tried to upload a fix, but I can't due to cruft still hanging around the archive |
| 02:40.14 | abrotman | gravity: use a vacuum! |
| 02:40.14 | tilrman | minarale: define 'hard time' |
| 02:40.19 | gravity | abrotman: It'll make it. 7.2 probably won't though |
| 02:40.22 | EdLin | X Window System's new motto - if it ain't baroque, don't fix it. |
| 02:40.22 | abrotman | Dwonis: don't make me smite you! |
| 02:40.25 | abrotman | gravity: yay! |
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| 02:40.54 | Halitherses | abrotman, i needed to add this tho my httpd.conf : AddModule mod_php4.c |
| 02:41.04 | abrotman | it wsa there .. i thought |
| 02:41.14 | Coweater | minarale: what filesystem? |
| 02:41.23 | Dwonis | Halitherses: for apache2, run "a2enmod php4" |
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| 02:42.15 | abrotman | Dwonis: apache1 |
| 02:42.30 | Halitherses | abrotman, I dont really care which version of apache I run as long as it works. |
| 02:42.39 | abrotman | Halitherses: hehe .. that's the spirit! |
| 02:42.56 | Dwonis | Halitherses: well, if you decide to run apache2, use "apache2-mpm-prefork" |
| 02:43.14 | abrotman | Dwonis: i don't think he has a choice |
| 02:43.24 | Halitherses | thanks I am logging this room |
| 02:43.33 | abrotman | you probably shouldn't log this room |
| 02:43.43 | abrotman | channel! |
| 02:43.49 | EdLin | especially not on Sunday |
| 02:43.51 | Dwonis | abrotman: ha ha! |
| 02:44.13 | abrotman | no .. i think the general policy is not to log |
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| 02:44.33 | nothingman | got a question: if I'm sharing my quake3 directory, shouldn't two comps running it from that directory be able to connect for multiplayer? |
| 02:44.46 | abrotman | i guess Halitherses is ignoring me .. oh well |
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| 02:44.49 | azeem | wel, not publically at least |
| 02:45.06 | Halitherses | why shldn't i log this room? |
| 02:45.22 | minarale | tilrman: coweater: I am getting 'permission denied' even though the file is ugo+x, the flash drive is fat16 filesystem |
| 02:45.22 | abrotman | for yourself is fine .. do not publish the logs |
| 02:45.46 | Dwonis | Halitherses: well, consider this, if I were logging the chat room, and published it, then in 20 years, somebody could make fun of your spelling of "shldn't" |
| 02:45.46 | Halitherses | ok I wont do that. |
| 02:46.04 | abrotman | we have weird factoids ... |
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| 02:46.08 | abrotman | !scientology |
| 02:46.08 | dpkg | i heard scientology is a mental disorder :) |
| 02:46.15 | Dwonis | hah! |
| 02:46.17 | abrotman | and i did NOT make that one |
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| 02:47.04 | tilrman | minarale: what are the mount options for the drive? ie, run 'mount' and find the line for the drive |
| 02:47.08 | tin_nqn | hello |
| 02:47.19 | Mardus | Dwonis: I don't think anyone makes fun of Linus Trovalds' comments in his kernel source(s). |
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| 02:47.34 | tin_nqn | how can I gzip all a directory? |
| 02:47.46 | abrotman | normally you tar then gzip |
| 02:48.04 | Dwonis | Mardus: Linus Trovalds? |
| 02:48.20 | Dwonis | Mardus: I can't tell if that was the joke or not |
| 02:48.50 | tin_nqn | really I need download all a directory (with subs) by ftp from a shell |
| 02:49.01 | Azar | my favorite site eh, I can't help it Mardus, Dwonis VIA compliance as well: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/05/04/145200&from=rss |
| 02:49.01 | Mardus | Dwonis: Torvalds, my bad. |
| 02:49.18 | tin_nqn | so I think compress it before is a good idea |
| 02:49.19 | abrotman | tin_nqn: man tar |
| 02:49.28 | ooev | tar zcvf a.tar.gz /path/to/your/dir |
| 02:49.30 | Mardus | Dwonis: I didn't write this as a joke, but I did laugh when you put my mistake to my attention. |
| 02:49.35 | Azar | all my boxes are on VIA, works excellent with Debian Linux/GNU |
| 02:49.37 | ooev | tar jcvf a.tar.bz2 ....... |
| 02:51.19 | tin_nqn | the second one is to extract? |
| 02:51.38 | Mardus | Azar: I got the article, but what's the fun part? |
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| 02:51.54 | minarale | tilrman: /dev/sda1 on /media/ANDREA type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,shortname=winnt,uid=500) .... but I don't want a /fstab entry since I have multiple flash drives |
| 02:52.26 | tilrman | minarale: the 'noexec' is what is eating your lunch |
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| 02:54.15 | tin_nqn | great! I did it. thanks |
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| 02:56.03 | Azar | Mardus: I guess until nvidia and ati won't have an open source alternative, they won't bother much with helping open source |
| 02:57.19 | Dwonis | Azar: of course, when they finally have that competitior, nVidia and ATI will probably go the way Google's competitors (heck, and nVidia's competitors) have gone in the past |
| 02:57.23 | Mardus | Azar: Is it related to the /. story about possible GPL violations with a Gentoo-based CD? |
| 02:57.35 | abrotman | again wiht the slashdot |
| 02:57.47 | gravity | Wow, people really are shocked at this |
| 02:58.00 | gravity | I was more shocked when they distributed the drivers on the CD at all |
| 02:58.10 | gravity | Then again... I used to read debian-legal and probably still should |
| 02:58.14 | Azar | Mardus: oh no |
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| 02:59.08 | abrotman | gravity: don't bother .. it's just legal mumbojumbo :) |
| 02:59.13 | gravity | heh |
| 02:59.20 | gravity | I wish I had time for it but I just don't |
| 02:59.29 | abrotman | gravity: i don't know why you were shocked .. seems to me other distros distribute them |
| 02:59.40 | basbryan | can you link that /. article? |
| 02:59.42 | gravity | abrotman: aiui they shouldn't |
| 02:59.44 | Mardus | Azar: I think I'm getting the point somehow. |
| 02:59.45 | gravity | Not on CD |
| 02:59.58 | abrotman | gravity: they should just ban the sale of nvidia/ati |
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| 03:00.10 | Azar | abrotman: :) |
| 03:00.12 | abrotman | basbryan: http://slashdot.org/ .. enjoy |
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| 03:00.52 | Azar | next time I try to order a nVidia card I will ask the salesperson to give me a gpl compliant one |
| 03:01.14 | Dwonis | Azar: that wouldn't really make sense |
| 03:01.18 | Azar | (what, no gpl? ah man, your company sucks) |
| 03:01.20 | benkong2 | !repos |
| 03:01.36 | Dwonis | Azar: I don't want GPL code from nVidia. Just good hardware interface documentation. |
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| 03:01.44 | Azar | Dwonis: yeah |
| 03:01.45 | Mardus | Azar: Do you think salespeople would then pass this request "upstream" (up the ladder) to nVidia? |
| 03:02.06 | Azar | Mardus: salespeople barely can spell their mother maiden name |
| 03:02.11 | gravity | You want to know what's infinitely more cool than GPL violations? Oreos. |
| 03:02.19 | abrotman | gravity: with beer? |
| 03:02.23 | Mardus | Azar: I can, but I am not a salesperson and they have a job. |
| 03:02.23 | Azar | ew |
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| 03:02.36 | gravity | That's an idea |
| 03:02.39 | Mardus | gravity: Who are Oreos? |
| 03:02.40 | gravity | Although probably a really bad one |
| 03:02.47 | abrotman | Mardus: it's food |
| 03:02.54 | Azar | cookies with cream in the middle |
| 03:03.07 | abrotman | hydrox cookies |
| 03:03.14 | Dwonis | Mardus: it's good... by very loose definitions of 'food' |
| 03:03.18 | abrotman | Mardus: http://www.nabiscoworld.com/oreo/ |
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| 03:03.21 | Dwonis | s/good/food |
| 03:03.43 | Azar | what's cooking at the debconf ? |
| 03:04.03 | Azar | probably politics as usual |
| 03:04.09 | gravity | Nah, debconf isn't political |
| 03:04.24 | gravity | At least from what I gather. It's way more of the fun side of Debian that most people don't really see or think about |
| 03:04.37 | Azar | gravity: I ment "inside" politics |
| 03:04.51 | gravity | Azar: Ah, well I guess so... |
| 03:04.51 | abrotman | i bet damog is naked .. running around .. playing with kittens .. and drinking tequila |
| 03:04.54 | gravity | I mean, people talk and then... uh... do something |
| 03:05.07 | Azar | speedy gonzalez style |
| 03:05.45 | Azar | I noticed a lot of latinos hitting the channel since debconf started |
| 03:06.03 | gravity | Maybe debday was a success then |
| 03:06.07 | gravity | That'd be awesome |
| 03:06.16 | Azar | perhaps all there in mexico want a Debian now |
| 03:06.33 | Mardus | abrotman, Azar, Dwonis: Wasn't oreo a slang word for black guy acting like white guy (kinda like a wannabe white guy)? I think I was that in "An Alan Smithee Film: Burn Hollywood Burn" |
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| 03:07.04 | abrotman | Mardus: i have no idea .. check urbandictionary.com |
| 03:07.05 | benkong2 | is there a doc somewhere on the net that tells me how to add non-free contrib etc to my apr sources.list in debian etch? |
| 03:07.07 | Azar | Mardus: I have no idea but I never liked cookies |
| 03:07.13 | abrotman | !tell benkong2 about contrib |
| 03:07.16 | abrotman | !tell benkong2 about nonfree |
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| 03:07.32 | Mardus | abrotman,Azar, Dwonis: I mean "I think, I SAW THAT in..." |
| 03:07.37 | benkong2 | abrotman: thanks |
| 03:07.52 | davidh | If I need to reconfigure screen resolution, is there any plug and play to autodetect and autoconfigure |
| 03:07.53 | Azar | benkong2: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file by adding non-free contrib at the end of each souce line. Then aptitude update aptitude upgrade |
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| 03:08.24 | Mardus | I am making mistakes that are of the flavour of entries found on bash.org |
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| 03:08.46 | Dewi | Mardus: heh. Here in Australia, I have heard of aboriginals who have embraced european ways too fully, being referred to by other aboriginals as "coconut" |
| 03:09.54 | Mardus | Dewi: Why "coconut"? |
| 03:10.04 | Mardus | abrotman: Thanks for the urbandictionary.com URL. |
| 03:10.04 | Dewi | Mardus: same as the oreo thing you just mentioned |
| 03:10.35 | Dewi | Mardus: both coconuts and oreos are black without and white within. |
| 03:11.04 | Mardus | Dewi: -- Black outside and white within? |
| 03:11.54 | epictetus | was that david hasselhoff?!? |
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| 03:12.13 | Mardus | epictetus: What are you referring to? |
| 03:12.31 | Dewi | epictetus: yeah, it was. I was helping him with his printer. |
| 03:12.47 | Dewi | epictetus: he kept trying to talk to it. |
| 03:13.05 | Dewi | epictetus: when I explained to him that that was unlikely to work, he just quit in frustration |
| 03:13.19 | barsa | #debian-br |
| 03:13.21 | Dewi | hi abrotman |
| 03:13.33 | Dewi | thanks barsa |
| 03:14.07 | Mardus | Dewi: "Printer, print me a document. I know you have computers and processors in it, too, so I can talk with ya, like cap'n Picard in Star Trek" |
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| 03:15.43 | epictetus | sndg02, must be his baywatch mansion in san diego |
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| 03:16.13 | Azar | any vim user tried viewports ? |
| 03:16.39 | Mardus | The "Eurotrip" movie had a nice gag aboutu Hasselhoff. |
| 03:16.43 | Mardus | * about |
| 03:16.52 | epictetus | i use vim and i tried to get into my wife's pooport |
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| 03:16.55 | epictetus | is that the same thing |
| 03:17.26 | Azar | epictetus: no splitting the editor so you can work on more than one file |
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| 03:18.13 | Dwonis | "Not everything written in every single mail has to stand up in court." -- seen on debian-legal |
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| 03:20.30 | barsa | Boa noite a todos... |
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| 03:22.42 | sciboy | Hey guys, is there a PC Building/Fixing channel on freenode? |
| 03:23.01 | sciboy | Cause i'm still trying to figure out what's wrong with this PC my friend sold to me. |
| 03:23.23 | Mardus | sciboy: What do you see is wrong with it? |
| 03:23.30 | Kyral | sciboy: ask in #freenode? |
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| 03:23.50 | sciboy | Mardus, Nothing is booting, No display, No beep codes. |
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| 03:24.08 | Mardus | sciboy: But the power does get on? |
| 03:24.11 | sciboy | Mardus, Only time i got a response was when i pulled all the ram out and started it up. |
| 03:24.12 | Kyral | sciboy: are the fans running? |
| 03:24.19 | sciboy | Everything is getting power and running. |
| 03:24.34 | Kyral | bad BIOS? |
| 03:24.38 | Kyral | bad RAM? |
| 03:24.38 | sciboy | Then it started beeping at me like crazy, after i took the ram out. |
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| 03:25.03 | Kyral | sciboy: stick the RAM chips in another computer and run MemTest on them |
| 03:25.29 | Mardus | sciboy: For how much did that guy sell the computer to you? |
| 03:25.45 | sciboy | Mardus, $400, Screen included. |
| 03:25.50 | sciboy | brb |
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| 03:26.18 | xomhau | hi all |
| 03:26.27 | Mardus | Ouch. The screen maybe something perhaps... But I'd check first if it worked at all. |
| 03:26.50 | xomhau | i installed k3b , but run with error because package cdrtools not. |
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| 03:26.58 | xomhau | how can i do? |
| 03:27.21 | Mardus | xomhau: You don't have cdrtools there? |
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| 03:27.35 | xomhau | Mardus: i don't have |
| 03:27.47 | Mardus | xomhau: Try apt-get install cdrtools |
| 03:27.48 | xomhau | package cdrtools not in list |
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| 03:27.58 | xomhau | i using amd64 debian |
| 03:28.29 | xomhau | Mardus: in list package only cdrtools-doc |
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| 03:29.40 | sciboy | Back, sorry. |
| 03:29.53 | Mardus | xomhau: That's a shame. My educated guess is that amd64 debian might not have all the packages compiled to it, although amd64 has 32-bit backwards-compatibility. Look for cdrtools' homepage, see if they have a port to amd64. |
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| 03:30.07 | Mardus | sciboy: Did you actually check if the computer worked, before you bought it? |
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| 03:30.21 | sciboy | Mardus, Yes, i bought it cause it was broken. |
| 03:30.27 | xomhau | Mardus: thank you |
| 03:30.42 | sciboy | Mardus, At $400 it's still very cheap even if i have to replace the Motherboard. |
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| 03:31.00 | sciboy | Mardus, If it's the CPU, well then i just bought it at retail pricing. |
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| 03:32.47 | Mardus | sciboy: I'd test the RAM or see any hardware related channels. |
| 03:32.47 | sciboy | Mardus, Any channels you'd recommend? |
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| 03:32.48 | no0ke | !install gnome |
| 03:32.48 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 03:32.48 | sciboy | Mardus, RAM appears to not be the problem. |
| 03:32.48 | davidh | EdLin: Are you there |
| 03:32.48 | sciboy | Mardus, Tested it with 4 different sticks. |
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| 03:32.49 | no0ke | !set up x |
| 03:32.49 | dpkg | it has been said that set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 03:32.53 | sciboy | Mardus, But since the motherboard was able to beep at the lack of it, means it isn't completely fried as i originally thought. |
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| 03:34.05 | Mardus | sciboy: I'm not much of a hardware guy, I did a channel search and #hardware seems to be one of the places. But if the motherboard beeped, then it's possible that the CPU _might_ be working, too. |
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| 03:34.50 | davidh | Hi there, need help on to setup my USB stick. The light is green, what should I do to make it visible? |
| 03:35.52 | dli_ | davidh, find the dev, "dmesg|tail", or install sg3_utils, and "sg_map" |
| 03:36.18 | Mardus | Azar: 2.4 or 2.6 or 2.8, perhaps? |
| 03:36.33 | gravity | er... 2.6.something clearly |
| 03:36.40 | Azar | Mardus: gah I do not think so , I think 2.6.16 could be |
| 03:36.48 | Mardus | mhmh... |
| 03:37.11 | Azar | I know it gets support for 64bit |
| 03:37.35 | davidh | dli_: Can you open the flood channel and I'll post my screen output there? |
| 03:37.44 | Azar | maybe oss will be scrapped and the default will be alsa |
| 03:37.49 | dli_ | davidh, okay |
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| 03:42.00 | Azar | there you go: learning to write your own device drivers for linux : hell with proprietary code! |
| 03:42.35 | Azar | and the tutorial goes exactly for.................. Debian Sarge |
| 03:42.57 | Azar | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/drivers_linux |
| 03:44.17 | Azar | relating to this , the best ever book I got " Understanding Unix/Linux Programming" by Bruce Molay |
| 03:44.26 | epictetus | davidh: are you david hasselhof |
| 03:45.07 | gravity | Azar: I love that book |
| 03:45.12 | gravity | Lovelovelove |
| 03:45.26 | Azar | :) me too , goes easy on newbies like me |
| 03:46.02 | gravity | Way easier than digging through the source, which I always meant to do but never got around to |
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| 03:47.12 | Azar | gravity what about Jeff Duntemann's Assembly Language Step-by-Step? fun book |
| 03:48.06 | gravity | Azar: Never seen it. I have the Kip Irvine Assembly book across the continent though |
| 03:48.44 | Azar | gravity: it is written like a sci-fi story, it convinced me I am a bot |
| 03:48.46 | Azar | :) |
| 03:48.50 | gravity | heh |
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| 03:51.03 | Azar | gravity: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0471375233/ref=sib_dp_top_ex/103-9997430-5750203?%5Fencoding=UTF8&p=S00S#reader-link |
| 03:51.18 | bwlang | is there some kind of tool to track changes to /etc? (or do people just use subversion etc.) |
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| 03:53.44 | tin_nqn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.54 | tin_nqn | look at this please: |
| 03:54.02 | tin_nqn | original: http://lavoz.dreamhosters.com/blogs/ |
| 03:54.12 | tin_nqn | destination: http://vps192.inmotionhosting.com/~lavozd5/blogs/ |
| 03:54.37 | tin_nqn | some symbols like à or é appear |
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| 03:55.02 | tin_nqn | I've exported with phpmyadmin and import too |
| 03:55.05 | no0ke | hey |
| 03:55.20 | no0ke | when i tried to run X it told me that i edited something by hand |
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| 03:55.34 | jstr111 | hey guys this isn't an emergency or anything but does anyone know how i can get cool drop shadows under my windows? |
| 03:56.38 | simonrvn | this isn't a windows channel. go find the right one |
| 03:56.44 | _matej | jstr111: are you kidding? I am pretty bad in mind-reading over IRC -- how could I know what's your desktop etc.? |
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| 03:58.12 | jstr111 | oh sorry, im so out of it with study right now... Im running KDE, i just installed debian a few hours ago from the sarge dvds |
| 03:59.46 | Halitherses | try #debian-kde |
| 03:59.47 | simonrvn | you need to enable transparency stuff in 'window behaviour' IIRC |
| 03:59.52 | Azar | jstr111: ask in #debian-kde |
| 04:00.07 | jstr111 | ok thanks :P |
| 04:00.28 | _matej | jstr111: go to Control Center/Appearance & Themes and play with settings there. |
| 04:00.43 | _matej | Azar: don't be so harsh on poor newbie ... :-) |
| 04:01.40 | jstr111 | he wasn't harsh... im asking for help and i got it :) |
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| 04:03.13 | Azar | _matej: sorry I did not meant that |
| 04:03.22 | stillbourne | are routes created with the ip command permenant? or if I mess them up can they be cleared by restarting the network service? |
| 04:03.35 | Azar | my sould burns to install an old game ment for DOS and I am not sure I can do that in Debian |
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| 04:06.03 | Azar | on the box it does not say what OS is required just: PC-compatible 286 or higher |
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| 04:07.04 | Azar | hehe : this game is NOT designed to be used with mswindows! yay |
| 04:07.53 | _matej | Azar: that would be probably plain DOS, not (i.e., dosemu for you), but I am suspicious how well it works with graphics (which may be quite intensive in game). |
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| 04:08.02 | bwlang | anybody tried netdirector? |
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| 04:08.58 | Rockj | Hum, is it normal to get LOTS of errors when trying to compile the ipw2200 (intel wireless) to the kernel? =/ how do I capture the sd.err to a file? |
| 04:09.05 | Rockj | std.err |
| 04:09.39 | _matej | Rockj: make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --revision something.somenumber kernel-image 2>&1 | tee make-log.txt |
| 04:09.50 | dli | Rockj, try another (newer kernel), remove your ipw2200 package, keep ipw2200-firmware (get all versions) |
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| 04:12.00 | Halitherses | Do I need sendmail installed if I am not running a mail server? |
| 04:12.01 | Rockj | I've got latest kernel, 2.6.16.16. Works fine to compile kernel if I don't check the ipw2200. |
| 04:13.00 | _matej | Rockj: try to find if they have IRC channell/email list/MUC or something -- these are highly unstable thing and you need usually all help you can get from people who really know (contrary to us ;-) ). |
| 04:13.05 | simonrvn | you need some mta. for cron, and other stuff |
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| 04:13.22 | davidh | dli: are you there? |
| 04:13.34 | dli | davidh, yes |
| 04:13.40 | _matej | Halitherses: don't touch sendmail unless you know what you are doing (and they would not ask us), otherwise go with Debain default, which is exim. |
| 04:13.46 | skullsoup | RockJ: is the machine you are working on a Toshiba laptop? |
| 04:13.57 | davidh | dli: is this correct: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/floppy auto rw,user,auto 0 0 |
| 04:13.57 | Rockj | _matej: hum. guess so. But just find it odd that kernel doesn't compile fine when ipw2200 have just recently been added. |
| 04:14.13 | davidh | dli: I put the line in /etc/fstab |
| 04:14.24 | dli | davidh, you'd better use rw,user,noauto |
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| 04:14.34 | Rockj | skullsoup: its a laptop with that wireless card. but it's not a Toshiba laptop. "Selfbuild" from a webshop |
| 04:14.41 | davidh | dli: what does noauto mean |
| 04:14.44 | simonrvn | yeh you don't want auto for something like that |
| 04:14.47 | dli | davidh, it might be /dev/sda1 also |
| 04:15.07 | simonrvn | davidh: means it'll mount at boot automatically. man mount |
| 04:15.15 | _matej | Rockj: some of these wireless drivers with firmware (I have the same problems with bcm43xxx) are really more or less alpha quality. You really need help from developers (so for example I found out, that for my particular wifi this driver doesn't work so I stay with ndiswrapper). |
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| 04:15.42 | davidh | dli: You mean the device could show up as either /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb1? |
| 04:15.56 | _matej | davidh: yes |
| 04:15.58 | davidh | dli: Do I need to put both two lines in /etc/fstab? |
| 04:16.01 | dli | davidh, better to check with "sg_map" |
| 04:16.09 | Rockj | _matej: Ahh, I have got it working before with compiling manually from ieee80211.sourceforge.net and ipw2200.sourceforge.net but with the newer versions and newest kernels I've had troubles =/ |
| 04:16.12 | _matej | davidh: or even /dev/sda |
| 04:16.12 | simonrvn | if you have no other scsi devices it'll go to sda |
| 04:16.24 | davidh | dli: What is sg_map? |
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| 04:17.00 | _matej | Rockj: and BTW, with this kind of stuff, get 2.6.17-rc4 -- it may be better. |
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| 04:19.41 | dli | _matej, ipw2200 should work for 2.6.16 |
| 04:20.04 | skullsoup | i have ipw2200 working on 2.6.16 |
| 04:20.29 | skullsoup | it does work, my buddy got it working but ill gladly help with logs if needed. |
| 04:20.40 | _matej | dli: but do you have the same wifi card as him -- bmc43xxx works perfectly for some cards, but not for mine. |
| 04:20.42 | dli | skullsoup, yes, but some users are rather creative in making mistakes, hard to debug without enough info |
| 04:20.56 | Rockj | I wish I could just managed to save the logs. make bzImage modules modules_install > error.txt dont exactly work and the linje _matej said up here I did'nt get so much |
| 04:21.08 | dli | _matej, bcm43xx is in 2.6.17 |
| 04:21.19 | dli | _matej, but you need the firmware also |
| 04:21.22 | skullsoup | ahh no i have internal wireless , he has a card, sorry but if i can help just let me know |
| 04:21.33 | Rockj | no, its internal skullsoup.. |
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| 04:21.53 | dli | skullsoup, I bought the card, and make it internal |
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| 04:22.19 | skullsoup | shogunx is the guy who got it working for me. |
| 04:22.32 | _matej | dli: I have all that and 2.6.17-rc3, but BCM4318 is pretty poorly supported. |
| 04:22.36 | dli | skullsoup, because at that time dell offered bcm43 with this model, so, I ordered without wifi, and bought ipw2200 myself |
| 04:23.05 | dli | _matej, that's true, it should work, if it's in kernel |
| 04:23.09 | Azar | _matej: indeed the game I have is made for old cpu's I used it on my old DX ... it will not work |
| 04:23.17 | dli | _matej, have you tried bcm43.sf.net |
| 04:23.17 | _matej | dli: the answer I got from people at #bcm43xxx was "wait until 2.6.18" |
| 04:23.47 | dli | _matej, yes, 2.6.18 probably should clean up bugs like this |
| 04:24.01 | _matej | no, but the email lists and IRC and given that I don't need it THAT much (ndiswrapper works here pretty well), I can wait. |
| 04:24.12 | dli | _matej, or you can simply order one of rt2500 cards? |
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| 04:24.30 | _matej | dli: don't fix it when it works (somehow). |
| 04:24.53 | dli | _matej, so, you use ndiswrapper? |
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| 04:24.56 | _matej | dli: moreover, this is internal to Dell Inspiron 2200 notebook. I don't want a PCMCIA card unless I have to. |
| 04:25.00 | _matej | dli: yeah |
| 04:25.22 | dli | _matej, you can buy minipci rt2500 |
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| 04:25.42 | _matej | dli: poor student, why should I waste money? |
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| 04:26.26 | dli | _matej, then, you should follow my way, figured it out bcm43 is bad, don't order it |
| 04:26.35 | _matej | dli: there is a reason why I bought the cheapest notebook on the market. |
| 04:27.01 | davidh | Hi there. After I boot up from the installtion (netinst), the following errors appear: pciehp can't be loaded; shpchp can't be loaded; usbcore: already loaded; input failed |
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| 04:27.15 | _matej | dli: I bought it more than year ago (there was no hope to get anything to work for reasonable price). |
| 04:27.22 | _matej | dli: s/work/work natively/ |
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| 04:28.41 | dli | _matej, you can order it without wifi, and save the price for bcm43 |
| 04:28.57 | _matej | dli: I could but now I won't bother |
| 04:29.33 | davidh | dli: Could you help to see my post 20 line above? |
| 04:29.59 | Rockj | tried compiling a older version of ipw2200 and ieee80211 (for firmware version 2.3) |
| 04:30.01 | dli | davidh, edit your /etc/modules |
| 04:30.18 | Rockj | http://rockj.pastebin.com/718080 |
| 04:30.28 | dli | Rockj, amd64? |
| 04:30.45 | davidh | dli: could you open your flood channel? |
| 04:31.10 | dli | davidh, yes |
| 04:31.15 | Rockj | dli: no, Pentium M (Intel Centrino) |
| 04:31.23 | Rockj | ia32 |
| 04:32.03 | dli | Rockj, obiviously, you are very creative in making your mistake |
| 04:32.19 | dli | Rockj, get fresh kernel source from, kernel.org |
| 04:32.31 | dli | rock_feng, reinstall your gcc/kernel-package |
| 04:32.47 | rock_feng | ? |
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| 04:32.55 | davidh | dli: Could you help take a look at my flood post |
| 04:32.57 | simonrvn | that fucking twit |
| 04:33.03 | simonrvn | @kill kbrooks |
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| 04:33.48 | Rockj | I've just done that a couple of hours ago .. did download latest. first I tried to use the already inbuilt in kernel, no luck. I tried todo it the "old" way that I did before it was supported in kernel which worked at that time. |
| 04:33.58 | dli | davidh, no idea :( but what's the error? it's hotplug or something, doesn't provent you from using your box |
| 04:34.40 | dli | Rockj, try, gcc-3 |
| 04:35.03 | davidh | dli: pciehp can't be loaded; shpchp cat'be loaded; usbcore: already loaded |
| 04:35.07 | davidh | input failed |
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| 04:39.28 | Rockj | dli: I'am running Debian Etch btw and I just apt-get install gcc-3.3 now. Anything special I need todo to make it use gcc-3 instead of the newer one? since I got the same errors again after trying to make the ipw2200. I might aswell try again with a clean kernel sources again. |
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| 04:40.23 | dli | Rockj, edit the Makefile, HOSTCC |
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| 04:41.14 | Rockj | there's no HOSTCC in ipw2200's makefile. |
| 04:41.36 | dli | Rockj, your kernel source |
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| 04:41.42 | dondelelcaro | Rockj: just make CC=gcc-3.0 HOSTCC=3.0 |
| 04:41.50 | dondelelcaro | s/=3.0/=gcc-3.0/ |
| 04:41.55 | dondelelcaro | (or whatever the right gcc is) |
| 04:42.01 | dli | dondelelcaro, how to do that with make-kpkg? |
| 04:42.11 | dondelelcaro | dli: MAKEFLAGS |
| 04:42.19 | dondelelcaro | dli: man make-kpkg |
| 04:42.22 | dli | Rockj, are you patching your kernel for ipw2200? |
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| 04:47.25 | Rodietze | what is the line I have to add into my sources.list to get vim7 ? |
| 04:47.27 | Immortal[Gather- | My xfree86 isnt working and I cant figure out why. My error log says Screens found but cant be used |
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| 04:47.35 | Rockj | I kinda feel really stupid now, as I'm doing only weird things. I guess I'm compling the modules ieee80211 and ipw2200 for itself then trying to patch it? oO I'll try some more myself..feel kinda very newbie here so .. |
| 04:47.44 | deeptz | he guys i have etchinstalled and want to install libstdc++ libray problem is i go for aptitude and i find that it is removing abiword gnumeric and set of other apps |
| 04:47.52 | Immortal[Gather- | I have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and everything seems fine but startx still wont work |
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| 04:48.04 | Rodietze | what is the line I have to add into my sources.list to get vim7 ? |
| 04:48.58 | Immortal[Gather- | I get (EE) VESA : No Matching Modes followed by (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
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| 04:49.15 | deeptz | Immortal Gather:what version of debian r u using |
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| 04:49.39 | dli | Rockj, yes or no? get the vanilla kernel, without any patching |
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| 04:50.26 | Immortal[Gather- | deeptz Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r1a "Sarge" - Official i386 Binary-1 CD |
| 04:51.00 | deeptz | what's ur motherboard |
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| 04:51.42 | Rockj | dli: This is what I do: download kernel-sources. make menuconfig , select my stuff without the ipw2200 stuff. make bzImage modules modules_install . after that, I stick to ipw2200.sourceforge.net and ieee80211.sourceforge.net and download sources and make && make install. What that is called I don't know |
| 04:52.14 | Rodietze | what is the line I have to add into my sources.list to get vim7 ? |
| 04:52.24 | Immortal[Gather- | deeptz a stock dell 2350 |
| 04:52.29 | dli | Rockj, I see, you are very creative |
| 04:53.00 | dli | Rockj, first, ask dpkg about kernel-package |
| 04:53.02 | Immortal[Gather- | deeptz its using an onboard video display |
| 04:53.23 | dli | Rockj, second, forgot anything about ipw2200.sf.net, ipw2200 is in vanilla kernel |
| 04:53.50 | deeptz | dell 2350 is it a desktop ir a wireless broadband router |
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| 04:54.19 | Immortal[Gather- | its a desktop |
| 04:54.23 | epictetus | Rockj: #ipw2100 |
| 04:54.28 | davidh | anyone can help to reconfigure power management? When it shutdowns, I hear a clicking sound, but power remanins on. BTW, machine is dell desktop dimension Pentium II |
| 04:54.33 | Immortal[Gather- | Dell Dimension 2350 |
| 04:54.42 | cheal | Rodietze: you need an experimental source |
| 04:55.03 | epictetus | Rockj: and I disagree with dli -- I think it is definitely worth it to use the latest and greatest ipw2200, not the one included with the kernel or especially not the one included with a debian kernel |
| 04:55.17 | Rodietze | cheal: no .deb yet ? |
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| 04:55.31 | cheal | Rodietze: yes, in experimental |
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| 04:55.42 | Rodietze | cheal: ool where do I get it? |
| 04:55.46 | Rodietze | *cool |
| 04:55.57 | Rodietze | I don't know the repo |
| 04:56.12 | sid | I'm copying a 5 gig file, and "cp" says that the file is too big and gives me an error |
| 04:56.18 | sid | What should I use to copy a file of this size? |
| 04:56.28 | sid | It's going from an ext3 partition...to a vfat partition. |
| 04:56.30 | cheal | Rodietze: there's not just one repository. it's in all Debian mirrors including experimental |
| 04:56.49 | Rodietze | cheal: oh okie, thanks |
| 04:56.53 | Rockj | I'am happy aslong as it works. Anyway, I removed my /usr/src/linux-2.6.16.16 and doing a new clean kernel build and trying to check ieee80211 and ipw2200 as modules to see if it works better now. |
| 04:57.12 | Rockj | epictetus: Ill take a trip to #ipw2100 , I assume they support ipw2200 too. |
| 04:57.56 | epictetus | Rockj: yeah |
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| 04:59.34 | epictetus | Rockj: I just set up ipw2200 with 2.6.16 but i did it wrong.. i did some crap where i patched the kenrel with updated ieee80211 (in-tree or whatever) then built that into the kernel, then built my ipw2200 module after that |
| 04:59.45 | epictetus | i was just messing around and that seemed to work |
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| 04:59.52 | Rockj | dli: anyway, thank you very much for your help so far. I'll continune to investigate in my weird problems ^^ And I suppose I'm abit creative and weird. Somehow, I manage to make the ATI (fglrx) works flawless on my laptop, but I can't get x to work with nvidia geforce 2 ultra on another one =/ |
| 04:59.53 | epictetus | i have no idea how you're actually supposed to do it |
| 05:00.48 | Rodietze | cheal: I found here http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ but in the sources.list I have to add deb http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ rite? |
| 05:01.11 | Rodietze | sorry for my ignorance I'm not that expert |
| 05:01.18 | bwlang | df |
| 05:01.29 | Rockj | epictetus: may I ask for specific stuff you did in pm? wanna compare what you do against what weird stuff I do. |
| 05:01.45 | epictetus | Rockj: sorry going to bed |
| 05:01.57 | epictetus | i stay connected though if you pm I might respond tomorrow |
| 05:02.28 | onetinsoldier | hi. does anyone have any tips for getting sound for an audigy2 card going? anything i ned to compile in a kernel? or do I just need to download packages? or..? |
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| 05:02.42 | cheal | Rodietze: no, this is for unstable sources, not experimental. you probably shouldn't use packages from experimental if you're not familiar with APT |
| 05:02.52 | epictetus | #ipw2100 is probably a much better resource some developers hang out in there |
| 05:02.52 | Rockj | epictetus: I'll try to catch you "tomorrow" if I still got troubles. |
| 05:03.03 | Immortal[Gather- | Anyone know why xfree86 says it found my monitor but it is unusable |
| 05:03.10 | deeptz | immortalgather :did u try with i810 |
| 05:03.12 | Knz | hmm :D |
| 05:03.18 | Immortal[Gather- | deeptz no let me try that now |
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| 05:03.27 | deeptz | do not change any settings afetr that |
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| 05:03.34 | deeptz | let it take default |
| 05:04.30 | Rodietze | cheal: I'll format my comuputer anyways |
| 05:04.30 | deeptz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:05.16 | Knz | hello |
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| 05:05.54 | jetscreamer | since it doesn't seem to be common knowledge, you need the mozilla-vlc-plugin to do google vids |
| 05:07.16 | Knz | :d |
| 05:07.18 | Knz | :D |
| 05:07.22 | Knz | (K) |
| 05:07.33 | no0ke | is it safe to install/use 'alien'? |
| 05:07.34 | Knz | sorry , im testing my system right now :) |
| 05:07.38 | no0ke | it converts .rpm to .deb |
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| 05:08.22 | Rodietze | cheal what do I need to add here more?? deb http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ it game error when I used apr-get update |
| 05:08.57 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:08.57 | dpkg | well, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:09.44 | minarale | is 'tweakable' a word ? |
| 05:10.07 | pinky | how do I tell if Debian detects my external Firewire hard drive I just plugged in? |
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| 05:10.22 | deeptz | immortal gather: u have a high resolution monitor so u need to ghoos hogher resolutions .....1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600 atleast these four |
| 05:10.22 | cheal | Rodietze: ask other people. I never added experimental sources, and I don't think you should |
| 05:10.58 | Rodietze | ok :\ |
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| 05:11.56 | deeptz | he guys i have etchinstalled and want to install libstdc++ libray problem is i go for aptitude and i find that it is removing abiword gnumeric and set of other apps |
| 05:12.20 | onetinsoldier | hi. does anyone have any tips for getting sound for an audigy2 card going? anything i need to compile in a kernel or make sure i don't compile? or do I just need to download packages? or..? anyone here have an audigy2 and have sound working? |
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| 05:12.48 | no0ke | is it safe to install/use 'alien'? |
| 05:12.50 | no0ke | it converts .rpm to .deb |
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| 05:12.54 | tarzeau | no0ke: no |
| 05:13.01 | tarzeau | no0ke: what software you need? |
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| 05:13.21 | no0ke | its vmware |
| 05:13.26 | woodland | is cook codec part of w32codecs ? |
| 05:13.28 | no0ke | and the file is .rpm |
| 05:13.30 | onetinsoldier | deeptz: what happens if you try to apt-get install it? it apt-get usually gives a message as to why it's wants to uninstall other stuff in order to install something |
| 05:13.33 | liable | pinky: dmesg |
| 05:13.49 | no0ke | !alien |
| 05:13.50 | dpkg | it has been said that alien is a program which allows one to convert from one package format to another: slackware to redhat, redhat to debian, debian to slackware, redhat to slackware, etc... it can handle stampede .slp packages as well, or some slimy, green, bug-like, creepy creature from outerspace that came to Earth to have sex with agent Scully, or at http://kitenet.net/programs/alien/ |
| 05:14.02 | deeptz | onetinsoldier:il try |
| 05:14.11 | sid | woodland: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/PJhtU437.html |
| 05:14.17 | tarzeau | no0ke: there's a debian package. which version? |
| 05:14.31 | sid | woodland: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search cook|grep -i codec |
| 05:14.32 | Immortal[Gather- | is there a package for TCL in debian? |
| 05:14.32 | onetinsoldier | deeptz: ok...let me know what it's saying. you'll have to quit aptitude first |
| 05:14.39 | tarzeau | no0ke: ask me in an hour when i'm at work? or google yourself |
| 05:14.47 | deeptz | oks |
| 05:15.29 | Immortal[Gather- | Does anyone happen to know if there is a package for TCL that I can apt-get install? |
| 05:15.52 | onetinsoldier | yes... there is |
| 05:16.00 | woodland | ok |
| 05:16.05 | onetinsoldier | i just did an apt-cache search tcl |
| 05:16.13 | onetinsoldier | tcl8.4 |
| 05:16.15 | Immortal[Gather- | What is it because I tried apt-get install TCL8.4 and it didnt isntall it |
| 05:16.16 | Immortal[Gather- | Yea |
| 05:16.18 | Immortal[Gather- | Thats what I did |
| 05:16.22 | onetinsoldier | oh! |
| 05:16.27 | onetinsoldier | well what happened? |
| 05:16.35 | Immortal[Gather- | but when I try to configure for my eggdrop it still says TCL is not on this system |
| 05:16.40 | Immortal[Gather- | ./configure |
| 05:17.09 | Immortal[Gather- | Thats why I thought I installed the wrong package :) |
| 05:17.14 | deeptz | onetinsoldier:its tryiong to install gcc3.4 when i did apt-get install libstdc++6-dev....wherein i have already gcc 4.0.3 |
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| 05:18.30 | onetinsoldier | deeptz: sounds like the libstdc++ library isn't compatible with gcc 4.0.3 then... i guess. i could try installing it and see what happens i suppose..lol |
| 05:18.51 | woodland | sid it seems cook is part of w32codecs |
| 05:19.30 | deeptz | onetinsoldier: will it creat eproblems for my gcc 4.03 .....may be while compiling or .....somethin like that |
| 05:20.35 | Immortal[Gather- | onetinesoldier: any ideas what package i neeed to install? |
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| 05:21.23 | onetinsoldier | deeptz: i must admit... i'm not certain. i think maybe you can export an enviroment variable to specify which version of gcc is use... like CC=gcc-4.0.3 ....maybe. i'm really rusty with linux overall right now |
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| 05:21.45 | woodland | sid, can you post your sources.list in #flood |
| 05:22.00 | onetinsoldier | oops.... export CC="gcc-4.0.3" ...? maybe. not sure. |
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| 05:22.02 | deeptz | ok...il try to hunt a bit or do as u say...lets check out |
| 05:22.12 | sid | !marillat.sid |
| 05:22.12 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat.sid is type echo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; as root to add the marillat repository if you are using debian/unstable. |
| 05:22.15 | sid | woodland: That's what I have. |
| 05:22.28 | pinky | liable: I switched it to USB now, and it seems dmesg may detect it, but it doesn't specify a device name? |
| 05:22.30 | woodland | sid, ok |
| 05:22.52 | onetinsoldier | Immortal[Gather- sorry... but i don't know why tcl8.4 isn't installing for you....? |
| 05:23.48 | pinky | I mean what in dmesg specifically should I look for to see if it detects my external USB drive? |
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| 05:25.35 | grendal_prime | whos good with theoretical network questions? |
| 05:25.48 | pinky | Ohh, grendal, try me, try me |
| 05:26.06 | Dry-ice | has anyone been able to use a smartphone as a modem on a 64bit version ? |
| 05:26.10 | onetinsoldier | deeptz: still here? i found the beginning of the answer |
| 05:26.14 | grendal_prime | im sort of reading up on tcpip and ip addressing in general. im finding out i know less than i thought on the subject |
| 05:26.50 | grendal_prime | pinky, if you flat out deny anything to be sent on broadcast, will the network (static network) still function? |
| 05:27.09 | qbit | yes |
| 05:27.26 | pinky | grendal_prime: What device are you saying should deny broadcasting? |
| 05:27.33 | pinky | I mean who's the "you" |
| 05:27.37 | deeptz | onetinsoldier:what;s that |
| 05:27.41 | grendal_prime | the router |
| 05:27.42 | pinky | Are you talking about the router? |
| 05:28.11 | pinky | If you have two machines on the same subnet, they won't even give a shit about the router with ethernet |
| 05:28.25 | grendal_prime | if i have an ip tables entry basically that just refuses anything to be sent on 255 |
| 05:28.26 | pinky | So any configuration on the router won't affect them talking to each other |
| 05:28.27 | onetinsoldier | deeptz: look at /etc/alterantives and read the man page for 'update-alternatives' |
| 05:28.42 | onetinsoldier | oops... /etc/alternatives |
| 05:28.44 | pinky | No, it'll still work |
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| 05:29.08 | pinky | I mean within your network no questions |
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| 05:29.16 | grendal_prime | thats what i thought. |
| 05:29.20 | deeptz | okei |
| 05:29.28 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
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| 05:29.38 | grendal_prime | would keep things like scanners from being very effective |
| 05:29.47 | grendal_prime | im quessing on that |
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| 05:30.22 | grendal_prime | 255 is basically used to tell everything else about something correct? |
| 05:30.58 | pinky | The only thing a configuration option like on your router that would affect *anything* is packets whos destination address specifies a Layer 3 network on a different interface of the router... ie the traffic must be forwarded through the router. |
| 05:31.21 | pinky | Even then blocking 255 wouldn't do much to a packet from a machine who has the router's MAC address in its ARP table |
| 05:31.32 | pinky | It will know exactly where to go |
| 05:31.36 | grendal_prime | or its what things like ettercap, and ethereal listen to (to start out with) |
| 05:32.25 | pinky | ahh g2g sorry |
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| 05:34.11 | intx | what runs faster on a linux machine, a 466 celeron or a 350 PII? |
| 05:34.19 | dondelelcaro | which celeron? |
| 05:34.58 | intx | there's more than one pentium 466mhz celeron? |
| 05:35.12 | dondelelcaro | intx: there are multiple models of celerons. |
| 05:35.29 | SubStack | bottlenecks aren't usually at the processor anyways |
| 05:35.35 | dondelelcaro | SubStack: it depends |
| 05:35.59 | intx | when you get down to 466mhz celerons, they are :P |
| 05:36.13 | onetinsoldier | hi. does anyone have any tips for getting sound for an audigy2 card going? anything i need to compile in a kernel or make sure i don't compile? or do I just need to download packages? or..? anyone here have an audigy2 and have sound working? |
| 05:36.27 | SubStack | /exec -o grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo |
| 05:36.30 | SubStack | cpu MHz: 233.070 |
| 05:36.51 | intx | the Pentium II 350mhz is a Slot processor, the 466 isn't, if that makes any difference |
| 05:36.59 | SubStack | proc usage isn't very high unless I'm compiling something still |
| 05:37.03 | Tallu | cpu MHz: 233.865 |
| 05:37.03 | dli | SubStack, antique show? |
| 05:37.09 | Tallu | SubStack: I win! |
| 05:37.09 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 05:37.10 | SubStack | quite |
| 05:37.14 | SubStack | damn you! |
| 05:37.34 | intx | cpu MHz : 232.694 |
| 05:37.36 | intx | blah :( |
| 05:37.54 | Tallu | Who says computing costs money nowadays.. ;) |
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| 05:38.06 | qbit | holy cow |
| 05:38.12 | SubStack | I actually got this computer for free |
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| 05:38.20 | Immortal | Could anyone here help me with eggdrop at all |
| 05:38.21 | SubStack | it was clocked at 66mhz and was running windows 98 |
| 05:38.26 | Immortal | If anyone happens to konw anythin abot it |
| 05:38.38 | SubStack | 64mb ram though, oddly enough |
| 05:38.42 | veamos | can I install SuperKaramba by apt? |
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| 05:39.06 | Tallu | SubStack: Yeah I got this one free as well. with 64mbit ram. I upgraded ram to 512 and added a 20gbit hd and now I can run this as a server no problem |
| 05:39.09 | gravity | !status spuerkaramba sarge |
| 05:39.15 | gravity | Shit |
| 05:39.20 | gravity | !status superkaramba sarge |
| 05:39.33 | Tallu | Immortal: why not just tell your problem. :) It's been years since I used eggdrops though |
| 05:39.57 | Immortal | Tallu: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 05:40.07 | veamos | can anybody help me? |
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| 05:40.13 | gravity | veamos: It's in testing and unstable, but not stable |
| 05:40.14 | dli | Immortal, you compiled it yourself? |
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| 05:40.19 | Immortal | Tallu But TCL is installed (and I asked about it because this isnt #egghelp didnt want to step on anyones toes :p) |
| 05:40.29 | dli | Immortal, or found some non-debian package? |
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| 05:40.39 | southpark | Hello guys |
| 05:40.59 | Immortal | dli I downloaded the package and did it mysel |
| 05:41.11 | veamos | mm why always everything is for testing and not for stable? I really don't know |
| 05:41.35 | Tallu | Immortal: wait, you installed tcl 8.4 earlier didn't you? |
| 05:41.47 | Immortal | Tallu Yes |
| 05:41.49 | gravity | veamos: Sometimes packages don't make it in to stable for various reasons. Perhaps the superkaramba package wasn't in release-state at the time of freeze |
| 05:42.03 | Immortal | Tallu Well no 8.a5 |
| 05:42.04 | southpark | i've just booted with my Knoppix CD for the very first time....Question, is it possible to connect knoppix to a Netware Server...through a novell client of some sort ?? please help |
| 05:42.25 | gravity | southpark: #knoppix can probably help you out. That's not really a Debian question. |
| 05:42.29 | intx | so between a 466mhz celeron, and a Pentium II 350mhz, which is likely to be faster? |
| 05:42.39 | veamos | mm, so I can't install superkaramba? |
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| 05:42.48 | intx | (not using X windows) |
| 05:42.51 | gravity | veamos: You can backport it yourself, or check backports.org |
| 05:42.53 | Doctor | hmm anyone got a program that'll read stdin char by char and convert to hex? |
| 05:42.54 | Tallu | Immortal: sounds weird to me |
| 05:43.09 | Immortal | Tallu I just did apt-get install eggdrop |
| 05:43.18 | woodland | i have installed w32codecs but when i try to play .ram files with my totem-xine i get the error that 'Audio codec 'Cook' is not handled' |
| 05:43.28 | southpark | thanks gravity.....gota a chat room for this.... |
| 05:43.51 | onetinsoldier | Immortal: all i can think of is for you to have a look around. like go into /usr/lib and/or /usr/local/lib and do.... ls -l libtcl* |
| 05:44.33 | shogunx | intx a 200 mhz pentium pro:) |
| 05:44.55 | intx | hehe, is that the system you're using? :) or if you're serious, why? |
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| 05:46.33 | shogunx | intx i'm not using one of those at present, but i have had them. the real answer is the 350, mostly because of the cache onboard. the real bottleneck in most x86 processors is lack of cache. the pro had the most. celerons have the least. clock speed in that range is largely irrelevant. |
| 05:46.41 | grendal_prime | SubStack, i have a pile of 266's in my garage |
| 05:46.54 | grendal_prime | i use the all the time for routers..the kick ass |
| 05:47.01 | grendal_prime | they that is |
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| 05:47.18 | BlackJudas | Is there a program that will run through say.. a directory of mp3's and ogg's that will report if a file is corrupt? |
| 05:47.19 | shogunx | grendal_prime like routers with zebra or nats? |
| 05:47.22 | SubStack | schweet |
| 05:47.37 | Immortal | Tallu is there an apt-get install for tcl? |
| 05:47.55 | grendal_prime | like debian routers |
| 05:48.01 | Tallu | Immortal: for 8.4 so i'd just go to the tcl site and get the latest on to make sure that's not the problem |
| 05:48.24 | grendal_prime | gento will take a week to compile on that machine, literally |
| 05:48.49 | shogunx | grendal_prime you mean to route real address blocks, and propagate routes into the internet as a whole? |
| 05:48.50 | grendal_prime | debian will talke about 15 min, |
| 05:49.19 | shogunx | grendal_prime or ipmasq/NAT jobbies? |
| 05:49.29 | Immortal | Tallu they are out with 8.5 now shold i use 8.4? |
| 05:49.36 | grendal_prime | shogunx, i mean, i use the with two nics, and iptables to route..no not ipmasq |
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| 05:49.53 | SubStack | dependency hell is much more tolerable to infinite compile time |
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| 05:50.10 | Tallu | Immortal: get the latest one, since that's what i believe is the problem.. eggdrop is looking for 8.5 but your system only has 8.4 if even that |
| 05:50.13 | shogunx | grendal_prime, well thats a damn good use for them. |
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| 05:50.39 | grendal_prime | debian is the most dependable distro i have ever used..gento is fast i will give it that |
| 05:50.53 | woodland | i have installed w32codecs but when i try to play .ram files with my totem-xine i get the error that 'Audio codec 'Cook' is not handled' |
| 05:51.37 | onetinsoldier | hi. does anyone have any tips for getting sound for an audigy2 card going? anything i need to compile in a kernel or make sure i don't compile? or do I just need to download packages? or..? anyone here have an audigy2 and have sound working? |
| 05:52.24 | grendal_prime | i have seen gentoo systems that literally blew me away on speed. but setup plugitin and reliable sorry man debian has that down. I have had to rebuild a router because a hd failed, 15 min from ground up and 2 min to config. back up and running. and that box has been online now for over 3 years |
| 05:52.44 | woodland | can anybody help me here |
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| 05:53.10 | veamos | I configured a backport.. and now I type apt-get install superkaramba, and it can't install it. can anybody help me? |
| 05:53.13 | shogunx | grendal_prime you could even raid5 some old hds to keep the hd failing issue from killing it. |
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| 05:54.40 | schoinobates | veamos, you'll have to give more details :) What error message do you get? |
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| 05:55.00 | grendal_prime | shogunx, no shit...and here is one even better, check this out, had a box that onetime would ping an aliased nic on a router, when it didnt receive a resopnce it reconfiged its own nic, and became a the new router. pretty kick ass. |
| 05:55.03 | veamos | Borken packages I guess |
| 05:55.12 | Immortal | okay when i actually make install something where does it go? |
| 05:55.25 | onetinsoldier | veamos: can you download the package manually? then you could do a dpkg -i --force-depends <package> |
| 05:55.32 | grendal_prime | Immortal, heaven |
| 05:55.43 | grendal_prime | /var/heaven |
| 05:55.45 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 05:55.59 | veamos | you mean the .deb package? |
| 05:56.02 | grendal_prime | sorry... Immortal ...heaven....had to do it |
| 05:56.04 | onetinsoldier | yes |
| 05:56.14 | onetinsoldier | yes.. i mean get the .deb |
| 05:56.16 | shogunx | grendal_prime heh redundant hosts... thats pretty slick. |
| 05:56.29 | Immortal | grendal_prime it goes to usr/lib right? |
| 05:56.35 | grendal_prime | coolest fkn thing i had ever seen. |
| 05:56.55 | grendal_prime | i thougt it was bullshit tell the guy showed it to me. |
| 05:57.06 | onetinsoldier | there is an apt command to have it just download a package... i can't remember the command. i'd have to look at the man page |
| 05:57.24 | veamos | mm, I've downloaded a .tar.gz one.. I typed ./configure, then make.. and it didn't work |
| 05:57.40 | grendal_prime | is one of the reasons im looking into tcp in general these days..im finding there are things that i assumed about the protocol wich are just flat out wrong. |
| 05:57.57 | shogunx | grendal_prime ibm made a big san called a shark... the thing had redundant everything... hosts, disks, even paths to disks... both hosts accessed the same disks. |
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| 05:58.29 | onetinsoldier | veamos: try out apt-get -d superkaramba |
| 05:58.44 | BlackJudas | Is there anything that will check audio files for corruption? |
| 05:58.52 | shogunx | shogunx redundant fibre channel, main power supplies, backup batteries, 3 host supplies per host. outrageous. |
| 05:59.03 | shogunx | grendal_prime ^^ |
| 05:59.05 | sid | BlackJudas: Did you get a *.sfv file with your audio files? |
| 05:59.05 | veamos | Invalid operation superkaramba |
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| 05:59.45 | grendal_prime | well you know..a nuc could knock something offline...ibm has a rep to protect. |
| 05:59.46 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 06:00.10 | SubStack | how much space will debootstrap sarge take up, approximately? |
| 06:00.13 | shogunx | :) they are the disk subsystems they sell with the mainframes. |
| 06:00.15 | onetinsoldier | veamos: roger.. hang on ok |
| 06:00.42 | SubStack | might have to delete some things, since I'm at 91% usage |
| 06:01.04 | shogunx | SubStack apt-get clean might help. |
| 06:01.22 | SubStack | doing this from another distro |
| 06:01.32 | onetinsoldier | veamos: ok.. it's apt-get install -d superkaramba. that will download it only.. no installing. what happens if you try that? |
| 06:01.39 | SubStack | so just asking if I need to start looking for things to delete |
| 06:01.41 | heartsblood | What would prevent me from seeing files/folders from the ~/ftp dir from an annonymous login? |
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| 06:01.55 | grendal_prime | i can hear the rep now...with llike pictures with thes huge mushroom clouds in the background. "and in the unfortunate event of global thermo nuclear war, you can rest assured that your data is safe and sound for the restoration of society in 4 billion years" |
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| 06:02.14 | veamos | I've tried so.. and it doesn't work, can you understand? |
| 06:02.20 | shogunx | grendal_prime bahahaha. |
| 06:02.24 | SubStack | hey never mind, all done |
| 06:02.29 | onetinsoldier | you tried with the -d option? |
| 06:02.34 | veamos | yes |
| 06:02.42 | onetinsoldier | ok |
| 06:02.53 | SubStack | schweet |
| 06:03.06 | veamos | but well, I've knew what command use |
| 06:03.17 | veamos | apt-get -t sarge-backports install superkaramba :D |
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| 06:04.50 | shogunx | grendal_prime http://gnuveau.net/2105.jpg rooted it:) |
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| 06:05.08 | SubStack | alrighty, chrooted and everything |
| 06:05.24 | veamos | another question. how can I omit a package when I install something by apt? |
| 06:06.38 | onetinsoldier | veamos: what happens if you try... apt-get install --ignore-missing -d <package> |
| 06:06.44 | sep | veamos, dont install it, or anything that depends on it |
| 06:07.56 | jetscreamer | hey did you really ride away? |
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| 06:08.04 | onetinsoldier | yep |
| 06:08.08 | jetscreamer | or was that just artistic license |
| 06:08.10 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 06:08.12 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 06:08.18 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 06:08.24 | onetinsoldier | and i justified it in the end |
| 06:08.33 | onetinsoldier | ;-) |
| 06:08.50 | jetscreamer | you're ok by me :) |
| 06:08.55 | grendal_prime | that looks cool man |
| 06:09.06 | onetinsoldier | hehe... cool. you too |
| 06:09.33 | grendal_prime | that was for shogunx |
| 06:09.35 | shogunx | grendal_prime its a bad mofo. eats the power tho. |
| 06:10.08 | grendal_prime | it looks like something that would be attached to like a drill motor or...shit like a cutting lazer |
| 06:10.08 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 06:10.16 | shogunx | heh. |
| 06:10.33 | shogunx | weighs 1200 lbs. |
| 06:11.01 | grendal_prime | gotta love any piece of compu equipment that has handlbars on it |
| 06:11.08 | woodland | hi, i have problem with totem-xine can anybody help me |
| 06:11.16 | shogunx | needs them too. |
| 06:11.41 | grendal_prime | those slide out rackmount type loop handles...that look like there welded on instead of bolted |
| 06:11.55 | shogunx | had that bastard running in my house... didn't have to turn on the heat all winter. |
| 06:12.22 | grendal_prime | the metal is all colored like its been inadvertantly hardened |
| 06:13.13 | onetinsoldier | gtg all.. take care. bye jetscreamer! |
| 06:13.42 | jetscreamer | ciao! |
| 06:13.57 | grendal_prime | you know like some dude with a lincon stick wellder and half his asscrack showing was throwing sparks all over your garage and yelled "yep that aught to holder in place tharrrrrrrrrr" |
| 06:14.01 | onetinsoldier | :) |
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| 06:14.14 | shogunx | ha ha ha. |
| 06:14.41 | shogunx | right on man. |
| 06:14.51 | grendal_prime | hahaha |
| 06:15.52 | grendal_prime | i mean you know your talking to someone serious about computers when you say...whats that thing running, and they start counting cylendars |
| 06:15.59 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 06:16.26 | shogunx | dude, you are a trip. |
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| 06:17.38 | grendal_prime | i have a inline 6 but the thing is...its actually mounted to the generator that is then mounted to the processor did i mention im off the grid? |
| 06:17.44 | shogunx | grendal_prime took 8 people to get it in the house. i thought the floor was going to cave in. |
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| 06:17.53 | grendal_prime | jesus |
| 06:18.27 | grendal_prime | sounds like the type machines i got from the newspaper 10 years ago |
| 06:18.34 | shogunx | it was an old ass victorian house. |
| 06:19.11 | shogunx | made a noise like a 747 taking off when you booted it. |
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| 06:20.08 | sanmarcos | how do I install a .ttf font? |
| 06:20.23 | grendal_prime | hey honey whats accuweather say about tomorro...umm hold on i have to turn the computer on...sparks, welding, turbine spinnup. |
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| 06:20.44 | shogunx | sanmarcos apt-get install ttf-bitstream-vera |
| 06:20.53 | sanmarcos | shogunx: that was not my question |
| 06:21.17 | shogunx | sanmarcos, just a random one? with a font server or without? |
| 06:21.45 | sanmarcos | shogunx: that was not my question, again |
| 06:21.50 | sanmarcos | without, why would I need a font server |
| 06:21.57 | sanmarcos | I just need to install a .ttf |
| 06:22.00 | sanmarcos | system wide |
| 06:22.01 | shogunx | sanmarcos xterminals. |
| 06:22.03 | heartsblood | I am really confused right now with the debian version of ftpd, do I have to create a ~/bin ~/etc dir and have ls linked inside the ~/ftp dir for annymous users to see anything? |
| 06:22.54 | shogunx | sanmarcos i would have to say either put it in the directory listed in your Xfree or xorg config or add that line and a directory for it to correspond. |
| 06:23.55 | shogunx | sanmarcos, i recommended the bitstream package as it has the most common .ttf's and works with standalone X or xfstt |
| 06:24.10 | sanmarcos | anyways |
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| 06:25.02 | shogunx | damn... who pissed in his cornflakes? |
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| 06:27.51 | shogunx | hey Edis0n... can you get me a deal on some lightbulbs? |
| 06:27.58 | shogunx | j/k |
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| 06:31.33 | lehel | hello |
| 06:32.05 | lehel | could somebody tell me a good bittorrent client, which i could control by ssh? |
| 06:32.20 | ext | lehel: mldonkey |
| 06:33.33 | Rockj | http://rockj.pastebin.com/718184 when trying to use latest ieee80211 and ipw2200. Any ideas what's wrong? Also tried to apt-get ipw2200-source and use m-a a-i ipw2200 without any luck too. |
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| 06:35.57 | lehel | ext: ok, i'll try, thanks |
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| 06:37.09 | Knz | this is my first presentation |
| 06:37.15 | Knz | final project :) |
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| 06:37.19 | Knz | support me debian :D |
| 06:37.34 | Doctor | how can i look at priorities of processes? |
| 06:38.48 | lehel | ext: does the mldonkey has web-interface? |
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| 06:39.42 | deconvolution | hi, my user passwd only recognize the first 8 char and I have tried to change pam.d and reconfig passwd still no effect. Is there any other file I need to look at? |
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| 06:40.04 | k-google | deconvolution: You're using crypt passwords and want to switch to md5. |
| 06:40.07 | Knz | damn |
| 06:40.15 | Knz | so many people here..very crowded! |
| 06:40.19 | Knz | haha :D |
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| 06:40.28 | deconvolution | k-google: I did dpkg-recon passwd and enabled md5 |
| 06:40.38 | k-google | deconvolution: Hrm. |
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| 06:41.48 | deconvolution | I also set pam.d/common-password to |
| 06:41.50 | deconvolution | password required pam_unix.so try_fist_pass nullok obscure min=8 max=20 md5 |
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| 06:46.18 | sanmarcos | how do install a .bdf or .pcf font in linux? |
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| 06:53.12 | woodland | i have learnt how to install using apt-get, but now i want to learn how to install packages by compiling from source. where can i get info about that |
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| 06:53.54 | dli | woodland, debian is binary based, you usually don't have to compile |
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| 06:54.36 | sep | woodland, perhaps apt-get install checkinstall ; and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/checkinstall |
| 06:54.45 | woodland | dli, in #mplayer somebody was telling me that its better to compile from source than use binary packages |
| 06:55.06 | sep | woodland, each soource have it's own README and INSTALL docs explaining how to do the actual compilation |
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| 06:55.15 | dli | woodland, read mplayer howto |
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| 06:55.24 | woodland | dli, ok |
| 06:55.26 | dli | woodland, also, the apt howto, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html |
| 06:55.36 | woodland | dli, thanx |
| 06:55.42 | sep | !tell woodland about mplayer |
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| 06:58.18 | woodland | dli, one more question. with 'aptitude' one doesnt have to worry about dependencies since aptitude takes care of that automatically. so when you purge a package using aptitude, everything you installed gets uninstalled. but when you compile some package from source does one have to worry about dependencies ? |
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| 06:59.59 | dli | woodland, you build a .deb, then, it's the same |
| 07:02.52 | woodland | dli, after i build .deb package where do i store in dir structure, so that i can install it using aptitude |
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| 07:03.31 | LostAngel | Hi, how can i fix a broken /var/lib/dpkg/status ? |
| 07:04.32 | dondelelcaro | woodland: just dpkg -i it. |
| 07:04.32 | streuner | dselect update |
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| 07:04.44 | nerve | hey guys, does anyone know how to boot XP off of another disk using grub? |
| 07:04.47 | dondelelcaro | LostAngel: you restore a backup from /var/backups |
| 07:04.56 | dondelelcaro | streuner: that's for available |
| 07:04.58 | woodland | dondelelcaro, ok |
| 07:05.13 | streuner | dondelelcaro: yep, i just woke up... |
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| 07:05.55 | dondelelcaro | streuner: no worries... I'm about to go to sleep. |
| 07:05.56 | menko_ | hi people, does anybody know which program works as a graph calculator? |
| 07:05.59 | bibe | nerve : isn't 'root (hd1,1)' sufficient? |
| 07:06.20 | menko_ | I've found fishgraph(or something like that), but it doesn't provide enough info for it to be very useful |
| 07:06.27 | dondelelcaro | menko_: there's quite a few of them, I use R for example. |
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| 07:06.36 | menko_ | oops I mean graph monkey |
| 07:06.40 | dondelelcaro | there's also hp48 emulators, and a few other things |
| 07:06.42 | menko_ | hehe, how did I get fish.. |
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| 07:06.47 | menko_ | cool, thanks dond |
| 07:06.53 | beef | Anyone here used Tor? |
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| 07:07.03 | menko_ | what's the best search term to use? Just graph calculator? |
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| 07:07.38 | woltage | Does somebody got problems with su at user -> root changing? |
| 07:07.45 | menko_ | dandelo: and, are the ones you're reffering to in the debian repos? (sid to be specific) |
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| 07:07.49 | nerve | bibe, no, turns out you need remap the drives |
| 07:07.58 | beef | If so, I'm interested to run a web browser using torify, and have the torified nature of it get passed to any Java applets that are executing within. |
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| 07:08.31 | bibe | nerve : do you also have a 'chainloader +1' entry in the Win stanza? |
| 07:08.37 | beef | Anyone know if this happens? Or if the Java applet is run using its own socks libraries? |
| 07:08.39 | LostAngel | dondelelcaro thanks, seems however they are all broken :/ |
| 07:09.00 | woltage | Is some package broken in testing? |
| 07:09.24 | nerve | bibe, yes, i do, like i said, i think the problem will be solved if i remap the drives because as the grub docs say: if you have installed DOS (or Windows) on a non-first hard disk, you |
| 07:09.24 | nerve | have to use the disk swapping technique |
| 07:09.30 | nerve | :) |
| 07:09.31 | menko_ | dondelelcaro: I can't find R, is that the full name? |
| 07:09.37 | streuner | woltage: what does BTS say about? |
| 07:09.48 | woltage | streuner: nothing :O |
| 07:10.06 | woltage | streuner: I think only I had this problem. |
| 07:10.15 | bibe | woltage : http://wiki.debian.org/StatusOfTesting |
| 07:10.26 | woltage | streuner: when using: sudo su. Su is working then. |
| 07:10.34 | woltage | But not when using it normal user. |
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| 07:14.08 | ircdevil | anyone but me having problems with gmail after their newest upgrade? |
| 07:14.10 | woltage | I think grsecurity and libc6 will broked it. |
| 07:14.28 | ircdevil | slow as hell when typing in std mode. and chat mode malrenders completely |
| 07:15.18 | Ugly_Duck | to install nvidia display drivers, i need kernel-source right? my kernel is 2.6.8-2-386, but my apt-cache search only shows 2.6.8 ? |
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| 07:16.26 | cheal | Ugly_Duck: no, you need kernel headers if you need to compile the kernel module |
| 07:17.04 | streuner | !b-e Ugly_Duck |
| 07:17.05 | dpkg | Ugly_Duck: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 07:17.13 | streuner | plus what cheal said |
| 07:18.56 | Ugly_Duck | does it matter than the kernel headers are 2.6.8-3-386 and not 2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 07:19.47 | cheal | Ugly_Duck: yes. you need kernel headers for the kernel you want to compile the module for |
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| 07:20.46 | mamars | Hallo. I try to setup a mailserver using cyrus-imapd and postfix with a mysql backend and the frontend web-cyradm. However I tried to change the password of user cyrus but it failed with "Authentication information cannot be recovered". Google told me nothing about that string. Then I tried the usermod command. The password changed but it is clear text in the /etc/shadow. Someone has an idea? |
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| 07:21.10 | Ugly_Duck | cheal: i was told i dont need to compile a kernel to install the nvidia drivers, just the kernel-source or some thing |
| 07:21.48 | streuner | dpkg, nvidia one-liner |
| 07:21.48 | dpkg | hmm... nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 07:22.16 | tarzeau | what's a star in french? |
| 07:22.25 | sep | Ugly_Duck, if you run 2.6.8-2 then you should first upgrade your kernel and reboot. then do what dpkg said |
| 07:22.37 | tarzeau | cheal: usually it doesn't matter |
| 07:22.44 | cheal | Ugly_Duck: you don't need to compile a kernel (unless you're affected by a bug in NVIDIA's drivers like me and stock kernels aren't for you). you need to compile a kernel module if you can't find prebuilt modules. did you read the guide? |
| 07:22.45 | tarzeau | cheal: you just need to edit linux/Makefile right and run maek |
| 07:22.49 | streuner | tarzeau: altavista.com -> babelfish? |
| 07:22.58 | LostAngel | is there a way to bind inetd started progs to an ip or do i need to change to xinetd ? |
| 07:23.50 | cheal | tarzeau: oh, well. at least for education purposes, I prefer my answer :) star is "rats" in French |
| 07:24.08 | sep | LostAngel, if the service in question supports it you should be able to add it in inetd.conf under the serverarg column |
| 07:24.32 | sep | LostAngel, keep in mind it will be different for each service |
| 07:24.34 | tarzeau | streuner: it doesn't know star |
| 07:24.46 | tarzeau | cheal: you lie! |
| 07:24.53 | tarzeau | streuner: and it's certainly NOT: tenez le premier rôle |
| 07:25.03 | simonrvn | tarzeau: étoile |
| 07:25.23 | simonrvn | cheal: heh heh heh |
| 07:25.36 | streuner | haha |
| 07:26.07 | cheal | tarzeau: how did you guess! |
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| 07:26.25 | tarzeau | cheal: i have a french ear |
| 07:26.32 | Knz | :D |
| 07:26.42 | Ugly_Duck | to work out how many kbs are in 250mbs of ram i times it by 1024 right? |
| 07:26.48 | LostAngel | sep: so I cant use inetd to do it? but xinetd has a bind= option? |
| 07:26.49 | Ugly_Duck | 256mbs |
| 07:27.02 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: kikibytes or real bytes? |
| 07:27.15 | LostAngel | I'm wanting to force a smtp and pop server to sit on one ip |
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| 07:27.24 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: 256 * 1024 (or 1000) |
| 07:27.31 | Ugly_Duck | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:27.32 | simonrvn | LostAngel: um, and how is that difficult? |
| 07:27.38 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: just hit enter |
| 07:27.59 | simonrvn | oh, running from inetd. ugh |
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| 07:28.13 | LostAngel | it grabs all ips, hasn't the option to bind to one ip(at least not that I can find) |
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| 07:29.58 | viss | hello, I'm wondering if there's a way to clear the disk cache in ram |
| 07:30.25 | rann | viss: sync? |
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| 07:30.38 | viss | erm |
| 07:30.45 | viss | i dont follow |
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| 07:30.56 | rann | the command 'sync' |
| 07:30.59 | viss | ah |
| 07:31.00 | viss | let me try |
| 07:31.11 | Ugly_Duck | ok, that worked well |
| 07:31.20 | viss | rann: no change in ram status |
| 07:31.24 | sep | viss 'sync' would force a write to disk of all pending writes |
| 07:31.37 | rann | or do you mean "to clear used memory which is at the moment used by disk caches" |
| 07:31.43 | sep | viss, why would you want to clear it ? you can reboot or umount the filesystems |
| 07:31.49 | tarzeau | is there a tool like tail, but to run some command on the latest newly added lines of some file? |
| 07:31.53 | viss | rann: clear memory which is currently in use by disk caches |
| 07:32.00 | rann | viss: you don't need to |
| 07:32.02 | viss | sep: because i ues this laptop to game sometimes using cedega |
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| 07:32.08 | rann | linux vm does this on the fly |
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| 07:32.15 | rann | if you have say 512mb ram |
| 07:32.18 | viss | and when im using 95% of ram using disk cache the games are ass-slow. |
| 07:32.20 | viss | i have 2 gigs in here |
| 07:32.31 | viss | the only way i know of to lower the disk cache usage is to reboot |
| 07:32.35 | rann | that's kinda weird |
| 07:32.36 | viss | in which case the games fly |
| 07:32.37 | viss | yeah |
| 07:32.42 | viss | everything else is tip top |
| 07:32.42 | rann | usually, |
| 07:32.43 | sep | viss, linux releases ram from cache to apps as soon as the aplications needs it |
| 07:32.52 | viss | sep: i understand why it does what it does.. |
| 07:32.59 | rann | caches change size when bigger memory hungry apps require more ram |
| 07:33.05 | viss | im just wondering if theres a way i can make it just.. hold on for a bit ;b |
| 07:33.06 | viss | heh |
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| 07:35.19 | sep | viss now that's very strange. tried asking cedega mailinglist ? |
| 07:35.22 | ccamacho | is there some way to remove gnome? |
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| 07:35.33 | viss | sep: not yet, I havent had much luck getting stuff out of those guys. |
| 07:35.34 | jetscreamer | !mtrr |
| 07:35.34 | dpkg | hmm... mtrr is Memory Type Range Register, a feature on modern x86 processors that can give a 2.5x performance boost when using PCI/AGP graphics cards. MTRR's are supported by Intel PPro or higher, Cyrix 6x86L and AMD K6-2 (step>=8). Ask me about 'mtrr deb', courtesy of xk, which automatically configures /proc/mtrr. Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/mtrr.txt to find out how to enable it the hard way. |
| 07:35.39 | sep | !remove gnome |
| 07:35.40 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 07:36.17 | viss | for example, the battlefield2 install I have on here doesnt work properly because the ATI linux drivers apparently dont support the game |
| 07:36.17 | viss | some guys on the forum managed to do some hackery to get it to work, but nobody feels like actually talking about what they did |
| 07:36.17 | viss | heh |
| 07:36.22 | viss | so its a bit of a chore to squeeze those guys for info |
| 07:36.44 | sep | viss, they want to keep guys subscribing all the time to get new improvements |
| 07:36.57 | viss | heh |
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| 07:38.07 | radone | I have installed new package. How can get to know about installed files? Or simply the name of binary file? |
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| 07:38.25 | viss | if i recall, you should be able to use apt-file |
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| 07:40.02 | bibe | radone : dpkg -L <packagename> |
| 07:40.03 | RvGaTe | how can i check if my debian is refusing packages... ? is there a log file for it? |
| 07:40.15 | redblades | Hi, I'm using Gnome. I was wondering, where is the equivalent to Places -> Connect to Server? |
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| 07:41.06 | radone | bibe: That's it. Thanks. |
| 07:41.28 | cheal | RvGaTe: what do you mean by " debian is refusing packages"? are you talking about packets? |
| 07:42.09 | bibe | radone : no problem |
| 07:42.43 | RvGaTe | cheal: network packages, things that come in at the eth0, i have this program that needs to connect to it, altho i can use it in the local network, im unable to use it outside the network, but the router is set to forward is... so its somewhere being refused, just not sure where |
| 07:42.48 | jetscreamer | !tell woodland -about mtrr deb |
| 07:43.27 | cheal | RvGaTe: you must be talking about packets |
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| 07:43.48 | RvGaTe | cheal: right... sorry bout that, packets |
| 07:43.59 | Edward_TLS | how can I disable IPv6 in the modular kernel... ? |
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| 07:46.27 | RvGaTe | rephrasing the question to exclude confusion: how can i check if my debian is refusing packets on eth0... ? is there a log file for it? |
| 07:47.21 | redblades | Hi, I'm trying to set up WebDAV |
| 07:47.24 | liable | RvGaTe: if the program is running and listening on the port, then i would imagine its your routing thats the problem. |
| 07:47.55 | redblades | I get this when I try to connect: dav is not a registered protocol. |
| 07:48.10 | RvGaTe | liable: yes, but the router is set to forward, it works on all other ports, why should this one get rejected by the router |
| 07:48.38 | liable | redblades: what are you putting in (i imagine this is your browser thats telling you this?) |
| 07:49.00 | redblades | sorry, putting what in? |
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| 07:49.24 | liable | RvGaTe: well, i dont know, but if you can use it on the lan, then the forwarding is the likely problem |
| 07:49.59 | redblades | I have a folder on my Desktop, and I click on it to upload some files, the message appears |
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| 07:50.59 | RvGaTe | liable: ok, what if the debian is refusing particular hosts, i just want to make sure debian isn't refusing packets... is there a way to check? |
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| 07:51.46 | liable | RvGaTe: have you told it to refuse particular hosts? |
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| 07:51.54 | brownie17 | can someone help me? i'm trying to get limewire, i used to have it on ubuntu, and i tried downloading the RPM, but they don't work on debian anyway do they? but i also tried downloading the general linux source file, and it didn't work |
| 07:52.07 | havran__ | hi |
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| 07:52.47 | RvGaTe | liable: look, i just want to make sure, is there a way to get a log of refused packets? |
| 07:53.12 | cheal | brownie17: people can't help you much if you don't diagnose better than "didn't work" |
| 07:53.25 | redblades | Anyone? |
| 07:54.19 | liable | RvGaTe: normally in syslog. |
| 07:55.13 | havran__ | where can i find configuration flags of packages? |
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| 07:55.23 | streuner | debian/rules? |
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| 07:56.19 | redblades | I'm really confused |
| 07:57.05 | liable | streuner: yes, yes it does. :) |
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| 07:58.21 | streuner | liable: thanks for confirmation ;-) |
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| 07:59.57 | jind | My version of the patch program in debian etch isn't working. When started it just does nothing and does not exit. What can I do? |
| 08:01.44 | cheal | jind: how are you starting it? |
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| 08:01.54 | Ugly_Duck | when mounting a partition, vfat/fat32 partition, i want to make it writable to every one, /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat user,suid,rw,exec,umask=000,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 |
| 08:02.11 | Ugly_Duck | but its not writable ? |
| 08:02.29 | streuner | !vfatrw |
| 08:02.30 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
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| 08:02.58 | streuner | that doesn't explain to make it writeable to everyone :-) |
| 08:03.08 | Ugly_Duck | thanks |
| 08:03.46 | aeres | Hi. Perhaps someone can help me. I use debian 3.1 sarge version, 64 bits, how to install mysql 5 on it? I see only 4.1 version in packets. Thanks |
| 08:04.26 | sep | aeres, it's in backports.org |
| 08:04.28 | Ugly_Duck | that worked, thanks |
| 08:04.39 | streuner | aeres: AMD 64? |
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| 08:05.30 | streuner | aeres: what kind of CPU do you have? |
| 08:05.32 | aeres | yes, AMD 64 |
| 08:06.05 | aeres | Athlon 64 3000+ |
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| 08:06.58 | aeres | thanks I'll check |
| 08:08.23 | streuner | aeres: look for amd64 binaries |
| 08:08.34 | streuner | if they are available |
| 08:08.49 | streuner | s/binaries/packages/ |
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| 08:10.36 | aeres | streuner, and what about just using backports? Will it work with the AMD64 too? |
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| 08:11.03 | streuner | packages for AMD64 sure :-) |
| 08:11.10 | sep | aeres, ther are versions for i386 and amd64 on bpo |
| 08:11.40 | fraser_ | can someone help me? i'm trying to get limewire, i used to have it on ubuntu, and i tried downloading the RPM, but they don't work on debian anyway do they? but i also tried downloading the general linux source file, and it gave me this error "/bin/sh: line 1: unzip: command not found" |
| 08:11.52 | aeres | on this page they do not say if it will work for AMD64 or not, the apt system reconize the processor itself? http://www.backports.org/instructions.html |
| 08:12.06 | streuner | no |
| 08:13.04 | streuner | apt/dpkg are care how to get and install packages on your system |
| 08:13.28 | streuner | or modify them, its not the job them to test your hardware |
| 08:13.38 | aeres | ok |
| 08:14.05 | sep | aeres, it's up to you to pick and install the correct package for your system |
| 08:14.36 | fraser_ | anyone? |
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| 08:15.26 | dandelo | is it zipped up? |
| 08:15.29 | sep | !limewire |
| 08:15.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, limewire is better known as lamewire - yet another braindead java p2p client. Not in debian. see http://www.limewire.com! GPL! |
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| 08:15.55 | brownie17 | dandelo, yes |
| 08:16.09 | brownie17 | sep, i've been there, that' |
| 08:16.10 | brownie17 | s |
| 08:16.15 | brownie17 | where i got the file!!! |
| 08:16.36 | dandelo | why not install zip then |
| 08:16.39 | liable | brownie17: so install unzip, and um, unzip it. |
| 08:16.59 | brownie17 | liable, why would it try to use a program called unxip if i don't have it? shouldn't it just use fileroller? |
| 08:17.52 | liable | brownie17: huh? it wants to use unzip, because thats what the person who wrote it wanted it to use. |
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| 08:18.04 | brownie17 | liable, that's crap. oh well |
| 08:18.05 | brownie17 | i'm doing it |
| 08:19.39 | liable | and thanks for all the fish.. |
| 08:20.22 | RvGaTe | lol, just noticed, my server is 25 days up, and i have already 6921 failed ftp logins... lol |
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| 08:20.39 | lostson | heh |
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| 08:20.47 | brownie17 | is the java runtime crap in the repos? |
| 08:20.53 | RvGaTe | as long as it stays at FAILED, im not bothered :P |
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| 08:21.04 | brownie17 | coz it's not appearing for me, and i just did an apt-get update. |
| 08:21.36 | julien_ | do you think sticking with the 3.1 sarge version is a good idea, or better use a newer but less stable one? |
| 08:21.58 | brownie17 | !java |
| 08:21.59 | dpkg | java is probably Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 08:22.10 | RvGaTe | aeres2: sticking with stable would be a good idea |
| 08:22.12 | brownie17 | !install java |
| 08:22.13 | dpkg | from memory, install java is First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package>. |
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| 08:22.21 | liable | aeres2: its a great idea unless you really need newer shits |
| 08:24.35 | ahewitt | hi guys...can someone please tell me why I am getting "missing argument to -exec" when I run this command..."find /mnt/blah/$i/ -path '/mnt/blah/$i/db' -prune -o -mtime -1 -type f -print -exec tar -pc {} | gzip -f -9 &> /mnt/backup/$i/diff/$DATE.tar.gz \;" ...assuming that $i and $DATE have been assigned?? |
| 08:24.59 | aeres2 | thanks, so I'll just try to figure out how to use backports for php5 and mysql5 ;) |
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| 08:28.30 | redblades | why is it that apt-get comes back eith dependencies, but tells me "will not be installed" |
| 08:28.55 | redblades | It's annoying having to hunt down dependencies |
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| 08:33.00 | redblades | I wish to install fireofx through repos, but I find that it says it must remove x-window-system-core |
| 08:33.06 | Ugly_Duck | any one got a Nforce3 mother board? with onboard raid? |
| 08:33.20 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: yes |
| 08:33.47 | Ugly_Duck | tarzeau: you having any trouble getting your controllers to startup instead of timing out on bootup? |
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| 08:34.09 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: debian install kernels didn't support it (well gnu/kfreebsd did) |
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| 08:34.16 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: i'm not using the raid part.. |
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| 08:34.28 | Ugly_Duck | ata1 is slow to respond, please be patient |
| 08:34.28 | Ugly_Duck | ata1 failed to respond (30 secs) |
| 08:34.36 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: i haven't had that |
| 08:34.39 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: what kernel? |
| 08:34.46 | Ugly_Duck | dont really want the raid, just want my drives to be accessible |
| 08:34.52 | Ugly_Duck | 2.6.8-2 |
| 08:35.04 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: sarge? |
| 08:35.04 | Ugly_Duck | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 08:35.10 | Ugly_Duck | stable |
| 08:35.25 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: dunno. i've got my own kernel now |
| 08:35.36 | Ugly_Duck | 3.0r2 from memory |
| 08:35.36 | tarzeau | !ubuntu2debian |
| 08:35.36 | dpkg | hmm... ubuntu2debian is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ubuntu/uncurse |
| 08:35.50 | tarzeau | i've used ubuntu server install because not even kmuto installer kernel worked |
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| 08:36.47 | aeres | how comes in the packages there are the binaries for mysql-server-4.1 and also the binaries for mysql-server without a version number? |
| 08:37.01 | tarzeau | aeres: the others are old versions or meta packages? |
| 08:37.09 | tarzeau | aeres: check apt-cache show pkgname for details or packages.debian.org |
| 08:38.02 | aeres | ok without the 4.1 verison number it is the 4.0 one. Thanks |
| 08:38.10 | Ugly_Duck | tarzeau: i think the last netinsall cd i had was 2.6.7 and it worked ok |
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| 08:42.06 | Tonnerre | Salut |
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| 08:43.26 | Diazepam | can someone tell me how i can get a list of all installed packages on a machine. Is there an apt command? |
| 08:43.39 | Ugly_Duck | tarzeau: if i want to compile a 2.6.7 kernel, do i just get one from kernel.org ? |
| 08:43.58 | Shadur | .... RRRRRRRGH. |
| 08:44.00 | Tonnerre | dmattli, dpkg -l |
| 08:44.11 | Shadur | ... No, mangler, I will not create a radius dialin account for someone with a password that's the username followed by 'pw'. Ever. Not even if you ask nicely, not even if you threaten to fire me. Trust me on this. |
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| 08:44.16 | Tonnerre | Is there any cool tool to find out what exactly causes a package to be (de-)installed on apt-get install? |
| 08:44.18 | visik7 | hi guys |
| 08:44.24 | visik7 | any backports.org developer ? |
| 08:44.24 | Shadur | I don't *CARE* how "unimportant" it is or how "harmless". "No" means "No". |
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| 08:46.30 | TraceGreen | Hello, does oss support almost sound card? |
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| 08:46.44 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: i'd get the latest 2.6.16.16... |
| 08:47.06 | Ugly_Duck | tarzeau: its not in my sources list though, do i actually download it from kernel.org ? |
| 08:47.38 | Ugly_Duck | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/patch-2.6.16.gz |
| 08:47.40 | Ugly_Duck | ewps |
| 08:48.13 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: yes, www.kernel.org |
| 08:48.18 | Ugly_Duck | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.16.tar.gz |
| 08:48.22 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.16.16.tar.bz2 |
| 08:48.24 | Ugly_Duck | lieke that one |
| 08:48.29 | Ugly_Duck | ahh.. gotcha |
| 08:48.34 | tarzeau | Ugly_Duck: no like the one i pasted with your country code after www. |
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| 08:51.53 | pitillo | Diazepam, dpkg -l |
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| 08:52.34 | Kgentux | Is the first CD of Debian Unstable enough to get a minimal system up and running? |
| 08:52.43 | tarzeau | Kgentux: yes |
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| 08:53.04 | Eclipser | there's no (official) CDs of unstable (?) |
| 08:53.09 | liable | no |
| 08:53.12 | Kgentux | tarzeau: thx |
| 08:53.21 | Kgentux | Eclipser: I know that |
| 08:54.06 | jetscreamer | there are links to unofficial cd's |
| 08:54.08 | Kgentux | and BTW where can I find AIGLX packages for debian unstable ? |
| 08:54.33 | jetscreamer | on the debian website |
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| 08:55.14 | jetscreamer | !lart woodland |
| 08:55.28 | woodland | jetscreamer, hey whats up |
| 08:55.28 | Kgentux | jetscreamer: seriously AIGLX packages are not in debian repositories |
| 08:55.39 | jetscreamer | i don't know what aiglx is |
| 08:55.51 | jetscreamer | not much woodland |
| 08:56.29 | jetscreamer | going to kill some people i think... online. |
| 08:56.51 | smart | wtf |
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| 08:59.28 | fisrado | hi it is a generic question, how to i get a cvs snapshot of anything ... i am tryin to get snapshot of snort ... but it always asks me for a password... what do i use? |
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| 09:06.00 | fisrado | got it |
| 09:06.52 | woodland | i purged the software mplayer-386 but there is still dir ./mplayer in my home dir. why is that |
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| 09:07.45 | sep | woodland, that's your users's mplayer configuration. and apt wont mess around in your homedir. delete it if you dont want it |
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| 09:08.17 | woodland | sep, is it ok to delete it. |
| 09:08.56 | sep | woodland, i can not know if you want to preserve your mplayer config or not. only you can know that. |
| 09:09.05 | woodland | ok |
| 09:09.32 | sep | woodland, if you havent done any tweaks in it it you can delete it. it will be recreated if you run mplayer again |
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| 09:09.44 | woodland | sep, ok |
| 09:11.19 | aeres | exit |
| 09:11.20 | aeres | exit |
| 09:11.22 | aeres | oups |
| 09:11.38 | Tonnerre | Ok, this is weird |
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| 09:12.15 | Tonnerre | I have a package named ...-php4, which has Provides: php4 |
| 09:12.25 | Tonnerre | But all other packages claim that there is no php4 installed |
| 09:12.34 | Tonnerre | Any idea as to why that may be? |
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| 09:15.07 | zepmantra | hello, how can i make a logo like a symbol of multiple letters within /etc/motd .. i forgot the command... |
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| 09:16.44 | visik7 | anyone have debianized vim 7 ? |
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| 09:17.07 | woodland | if i have to only download source file for some package , how do i do that. |
| 09:17.11 | bibe | visik7 : www.backports.org, IIRC |
| 09:17.39 | bibe | visik7 : gosh... it's experimental |
| 09:18.13 | liable | zepmantra: didnt quite understand that, explain a bit more? |
| 09:19.01 | Ugly_Duck | do i build sata into the kernel or as modules? |
| 09:19.27 | Ugly_Duck | does it choose modules on boot up if it detects the hardware for them? |
| 09:20.39 | visik7 | bibe: can I install it without remove vim 6 ? |
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| 09:21.56 | jon_ | I'm having some problems with the bcm43xx driver, getting this message from dmesg | grep eth1: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready" and I'm not able to use the device |
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| 09:26.18 | bibe | visik7 : i don't think so |
| 09:26.27 | visik7 | :/ |
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| 09:27.24 | Smari | Heyho. Is there any quick and easy way to bypass the kind of apt problem which causes the error " trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir', which is also in package xfonts-base" ? |
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| 09:29.02 | ace_me | hi ! how could I enter in graphic mode ? |
| 09:29.47 | Smari | ace_me: If you have an X server set up, configure it and type "startx". |
| 09:30.28 | redblades | I wish to upgrade firefox |
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| 09:30.50 | sep | redblades, it's probably on backports.org |
| 09:31.07 | redblades | It seems to require lots of files that it cna't find as well as needing to remove x-window-system-core2 |
| 09:31.09 | redblades | @ |
| 09:31.10 | redblades | ! |
| 09:31.16 | redblades | sorry bout that |
| 09:31.26 | redblades | whjat wil happen if I remove X? |
| 09:31.27 | onetinsoldier | i'm having a graphic mode problem myself. i'm using kdm/kde and all that i get is 640x480. arrghh! |
| 09:31.45 | hugle | is there a chance that the newest sarge image will support my sata disk ? |
| 09:32.04 | avtobiff | yes |
| 09:32.09 | hugle | because while partitioning install don't show my any of my 2 drives |
| 09:32.09 | Smari | hugle: Yup. It's recognized as a SCSI device, |
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| 09:32.22 | avtobiff | if you boot the installer with either linux26 or expert26 |
| 09:32.31 | Smari | onetinsoldier: kdm/kde aren't to blame. You're going to have to check your X.org or XFree86 configuration. |
| 09:32.43 | fantomas | Hi. What ftp server software you guys recommend to use? I tried vsftpd and now want something different. I need virtual users, local users and probably bandwidth control. |
| 09:32.51 | hugle | that's what I did : linux26. But still install doesn't see the drives. So i'm burning new CD |
| 09:32.54 | avtobiff | hugle, at the installer boot splash screen press the Fn-keys and read about boot options |
| 09:33.00 | onetinsoldier | Smari: i did check them. it's all set up to use 1600x1200 only |
| 09:33.01 | liable | redblades: does it just want to remove that one package? its only a meta package. |
| 09:33.03 | avtobiff | hugle, ok. strange :-( |
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| 09:33.21 | Smari | onetinsoldier: Is that resolution supported by your hardware? |
| 09:33.26 | onetinsoldier | yep |
| 09:33.30 | hugle | avtobiff, my Sarge was built on 2005 03 05 |
| 09:33.37 | hugle | avtobiff, maybe newer one will do this for me |
| 09:33.38 | zu22 | hey debianites |
| 09:33.39 | Smari | onetinsoldier: Then I don't know. |
| 09:33.44 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 09:33.47 | redblades | No, many others |
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| 09:34.09 | ace_me | <Smari> I've done that but it said error while loading shared liubrartie libXmuu.so.1 |
| 09:34.09 | liable | redblades: what version of debian? |
| 09:34.20 | Smari | onetinsoldier: I've not fiddled around with X server settings for ages.. no need. :) |
| 09:34.21 | redblades | sarge/etch 3.1 |
| 09:34.46 | liable | erm, sarge or etch, not both |
| 09:34.54 | hugle | avtobiff :))) bah. I have build the same cd I had:))) It was build on 205 03 05 also ;) |
| 09:35.11 | onetinsoldier | i hear ya. i've gotten my xorg.conf file all set up i think. only thing in there is 1600x1200 settings. |
| 09:35.24 | avtobiff | hugle, ok :-) |
| 09:35.26 | redblades | sarge, with both sarge and etch repos |
| 09:35.45 | hugle | avtobiff is there any way to somehow load the modules ? |
| 09:35.58 | avtobiff | hugle, with insmod during the install perhaps? |
| 09:36.15 | Smari | onetinsoldier: Check the video adapter driver... it could be causing problems. See if there's any errors in the X startup output... |
| 09:36.21 | avtobiff | hugle, you know that you can execute a shell during the install right? |
| 09:36.32 | avtobiff | try that if it does not work out-of-the-box |
| 09:36.35 | hugle | avtobiff, ah right. Just never used to use it |
| 09:36.35 | redblades | so??? |
| 09:36.40 | onetinsoldier | Smari: ok... good idea. the Xsession file, right? |
| 09:36.55 | hugle | avtobiff, now I should find the drivers and try this out |
| 09:37.09 | redblades | liable? |
| 09:37.51 | Smari | onetinsoldier: XF86Config... |
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| 09:38.12 | Smari | onetinsoldier: I don't know where the output would go if you're using kdm. |
| 09:38.30 | Smari | Anyway, does anybody know a solution to my apt problem? |
| 09:38.54 | liable | redblades: firstly, do you have an apt-preferences file? whats your version of libc6? |
| 09:39.10 | ace_me | How could I install X ? |
| 09:39.27 | Smari | I'm swapping XFree86 out for XOrg, and something went wrong... probably because I didn't remove XF86 before I started installing the later. |
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| 09:39.41 | ootput | hi guys, are any of you familiar with wrapper scripts that can handle pdf -> ps conversions where the output ps's layout can be customized (landscape, 2up etc) ? |
| 09:40.06 | petemc | topic |
| 09:40.10 | petemc | gah |
| 09:40.55 | onetinsoldier | Smari: i'm looking for it but haven't found it yet |
| 09:40.58 | Smari | petemc: Ahh! |
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| 09:41.08 | Smari | petemc: Didn't think to look there. |
| 09:41.16 | thinkpad | Hi, my domain.com goes to /var/www DocumentRoot instead of /var/www/mydomain.com though I set the ServerName mydomain.com. my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: http://rafb.net/paste/results/x2wmRM62.html and my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mydomain.com is like this http://rafb.net/paste/results/T1wYuN73.html |
| 09:41.19 | Smari | Thanks. |
| 09:41.48 | petemc | Smari: i was actually trying to read it myself, gld to have helped tho... |
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| 09:41.58 | visik7 | bibe: I can't find vim7 in http://backports.org/debian/pool/main/v/vim/ |
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| 09:42.50 | onetinsoldier | Smari: found it... /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 09:44.15 | bibe | visik7 : I was wrong when I wrote backports, in the following line I wrote you can find it in the experimental repository |
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| 09:47.08 | redblades | liable, I'm not sure I understand |
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| 09:49.09 | myren | do i just need to do make-kpkg --initrd kernel-image to make an initrd kernel image? |
| 09:49.12 | row | if a resource/device is not busy and nfs mounts are taken ages how can I debug this? |
| 09:49.20 | liable | redblades: just trying to work out whether you have etch or sarge firstly. if you have etch in your sources list, and you dont have a preferences file, and you have upgraded, then you have etch. this helps to try and understand where your problem may lie |
| 09:49.30 | myren | the default configs seem to make absolutely everything a module, right down to IDE & ATA support. :/ |
| 09:49.42 | tarzeau | myren: and you need the right config options of the kernel config |
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| 09:49.56 | redblades | Oh. I put an etch one in there because I needed to upgrade to firefox 1.0.3 |
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| 09:50.00 | tarzeau | myren: i prefer non-initrd kernels, want my config? |
| 09:50.04 | manas | what is the difference in a x86_64 intel pentium and an opteron ? |
| 09:50.05 | liable | myren: yes, if you use defualt config, you need initrd |
| 09:50.15 | tarzeau | it's nice now there's gonna be firefox2 too... |
| 09:50.15 | myren | tarzeau: configu options to say "initrd will need this module"? |
| 09:50.29 | tarzeau | myren: no i use non-initrd kernels |
| 09:50.30 | myren | or can initrd figure that out |
| 09:50.30 | manas | i see that the physical address of my intel machine is 36 bits, the opteron is 40 .. |
| 09:50.39 | tarzeau | myren: no initrd just is one more command at the end |
| 09:50.46 | row | does sync slow stuff down if set on exports? |
| 09:50.53 | tarzeau | row: very |
| 09:50.54 | myren | yeah i've never used an initrd kernel before, but i've already got this blimen thing compiled |
| 09:51.14 | myren | just a little too busy to build a .config right now |
| 09:51.48 | onetinsoldier | myren: well, i .config'd mine and then used make-kpkg to make an initrd kernel |
| 09:51.50 | tarzeau | myren: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/make-kpkg/ |
| 09:52.34 | onetinsoldier | myren: i did it just a little while ago and am running on it now.. after installing with dpkg. ;-) |
| 09:53.28 | myren | yeah, i've used make-kpkg for a long time now. just the first time i was dumb enough to just copy /boot/config-2.6.16-1-686, compile & assume i could reboot. |
| 09:53.53 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 09:54.16 | liable | redblades: paste the apt output to paster |
| 09:54.58 | redblades | of fireofx? |
| 09:54.58 | onetinsoldier | i think modules wiil get loaded when they are needed. have you tried making the .deb and install it yet? |
| 09:55.06 | row | tarzeau: how can I speed nfs up then, as smb mounts work fine but I really to be be able to chmod stuff over the nfs mounts etc. |
| 09:55.10 | liable | myren: if you are gonna just copy a debian config, why bother? |
| 09:55.17 | liable | yes |
| 09:55.22 | tarzeau | row: nfs is fast |
| 09:55.28 | row | tarzeau: its been really slow |
| 09:55.29 | tarzeau | row: don't use sync. don't use tcp |
| 09:55.39 | row | ah its default so could be tcp |
| 09:55.41 | tarzeau | row: you must be doing something very wrong. gigabit network? |
| 09:55.45 | row | I set async in exports |
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| 09:55.47 | myren | liable: didnt know what package was a precompiled kernel tree |
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| 09:55.49 | tarzeau | row: what systems? linux debian only? |
| 09:55.54 | sdkgh | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfonts-encodings_1%3a1.0.0-3_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 09:55.55 | tarzeau | row: kernel nfs i suppose? |
| 09:55.57 | sdkgh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.03 | sdkgh | i get that from 'apt-get -f install' |
| 09:56.04 | row | tarzeau: nope only one thing connected atm a php4 xen |
| 09:56.11 | tarzeau | sdkgh: sid? |
| 09:56.14 | row | tarzeau: yep kernel server |
| 09:56.16 | liable | sdkgh: have you checked bts? |
| 09:56.55 | myren | how do i get a -686 kernel instead of a -386 kernel? |
| 09:56.56 | sdkgh | whats bts? |
| 09:56.59 | liable | !bts |
| 09:56.59 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 09:57.01 | row | tarzeau: does nfs client need a fair amount of ram? |
| 09:57.03 | myren | thats one thing i've never figured out |
| 09:57.06 | liable | there it goes :) |
| 09:57.10 | sdkgh | ah |
| 09:57.17 | sdkgh | i think i'm sid, not sure. debian unstable... |
| 09:57.18 | Tonnerre | Any idea to my Provides: problem? |
| 09:57.20 | tarzeau | myren: configure the kernel configuration? |
| 09:57.24 | myren | row: it runs fine on my 4mb wgt. |
| 09:57.26 | tarzeau | sdkgh: yes unstable is sid |
| 09:57.37 | sdkgh | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 09:57.37 | sdkgh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.41 | sdkgh | anyway what to do? |
| 09:57.48 | liable | sdkgh: dont run sid? |
| 09:57.51 | tarzeau | sdkgh: xorg7? |
| 09:58.12 | row | is nfs-user-server better than nfs-kernel-server for a small install? |
| 09:58.16 | tarzeau | row: no |
| 09:58.20 | row | k |
| 09:58.23 | ootput | hi guys, i'm planning on doing a fresh sid install. Is there a way for me to get a listing of apt-get's that I currently made - sorted to take care of dependencies? |
| 09:58.29 | tarzeau | row: tried unfs3 yet? |
| 09:58.29 | row | maybe I should reconfigure it from scratch |
| 09:58.35 | row | its been a while since I used it |
| 09:58.41 | row | tarzeau: never heard of it :P |
| 09:58.48 | tarzeau | row: user space nfs... |
| 09:58.49 | liable | ootput: /msg dpkg selections |
| 09:58.57 | onetinsoldier | ootput... i think so. dpkg --get-selections ..? |
| 09:58.59 | row | tarzeau: is it nicer? |
| 09:59.06 | sdkgh | tarzeau: i'm trying to install xorg |
| 09:59.10 | tarzeau | row: haven't had time to try it yet |
| 09:59.20 | tarzeau | sdkgh: remove xfonts-encodings (dpkg -P) and continue |
| 09:59.26 | ootput | liable: does that address the latter requirement? |
| 09:59.28 | row | how do I enable udp on nfs kernel server then? |
| 09:59.38 | sdkgh | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove xfonts-encodings which isn't installed. |
| 09:59.44 | liable | ootput: did you read it? |
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| 10:00.12 | sdkgh | ok that worked i think! |
| 10:00.19 | sdkgh | xfonts-base |
| 10:00.27 | sdkgh | thanks |
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| 10:00.55 | redblades | Hi, I found the source of the issue: x11-common: |
| 10:00.56 | redblades | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.28 | onetinsoldier | anyone able to help with an (hsync out of range) problem with xorg? |
| 10:02.49 | redblades | how do I resolve this? |
| 10:03.19 | jetscreamer | !hwinfo |
| 10:03.20 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hwinfo is your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
| 10:03.34 | jetscreamer | !drxx |
| 10:03.35 | dpkg | methinks drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
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| 10:03.49 | jetscreamer | onetinsoldier: ^^ |
| 10:04.04 | jetscreamer | the --monitor one |
| 10:04.13 | jetscreamer | then drxx |
| 10:04.32 | redblades | i really need to fix this issue |
| 10:04.41 | redblades | please someone, help |
| 10:04.50 | onetinsoldier | hi jetscreamer: my monitor os an lcd.. just uses 60 hz |
| 10:05.15 | jetscreamer | ah never had an lcd |
| 10:05.38 | onetinsoldier | neither did i until fairly recently |
| 10:05.44 | ootput | liable: cheers |
| 10:05.57 | jetscreamer | but find the refresh rates for it, then drxx and put the correct valuse should fix it |
| 10:06.17 | myren | holy guacamoly, 2.6.16 seems to have a lot more kernel config options than .15 |
| 10:06.18 | jetscreamer | both v&h |
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| 10:11.37 | redblades | Will removing gnome-core remove gnome? |
| 10:11.44 | redblades | It's required by OO.o |
| 10:11.58 | redblades | but I'm confused as to why it needs to remove it |
| 10:12.15 | sep | redblades, are you installing OO from backports ? |
| 10:12.23 | redblades | No |
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| 10:12.41 | redblades | Why? |
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| 10:14.41 | sep | redblades, becouse it's hard to grasp from your writings if your runnign etch or sarge. and where you are installing what from, since i have installed OO withotu issues on sarge uing sarges's version adn backports with no issues |
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| 10:15.22 | redblades | I'm on Sarge but some paackages I could only get under etch |
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| 10:15.43 | DrNach | What's the Debian way for configuring fonts? |
| 10:16.06 | sep | redblades, something that wasn't in backports ? |
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| 10:16.39 | onetinsoldier | jetscreamer: you here? |
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| 10:18.44 | sep | redblades, i'd recomend you'd remove the etch sources and use backports instad. |
| 10:19.03 | onetinsoldier | jetscreamer: are you here? |
| 10:19.13 | redblades | okay |
| 10:19.28 | redblades | what backports? |
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| 10:20.09 | redblades | I just realised, I had sid in there! |
| 10:20.16 | redblades | bacakports? |
| 10:20.24 | redblades | backports? rather |
| 10:20.33 | Gnea | !backports |
| 10:20.33 | dpkg | it has been said that backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 10:21.46 | ace_me | how could i print the current frame or an object from it ? an embed for example !? |
| 10:22.24 | ace_me | sorry |
| 10:22.39 | ace_me | How could I install X ? on debian minimal cd ISO image after text install ? |
| 10:22.46 | ace_me | or reconfig ? |
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| 10:23.26 | sep | !drxx ace_me |
| 10:23.27 | dpkg | ace_me: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 10:24.05 | redblades | Look, I hate to sound lazy, but I'm doing H/W, could someone just tell me the line that needs to be added? |
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| 10:24.41 | ace_me | xserver-xfree86 is not installed |
| 10:24.46 | sep | redblades, it's on the page http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 10:24.48 | Kgentux | Does anyone here have a good experience with Unstable ? |
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| 10:25.04 | Kgentux | I am switching from gentoo to Debian untable |
| 10:25.12 | Halitherses | I remove sendmail by replacing it with exim,. No i get this cron email bugging me every twenty minutes: test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp should I remove it? if so how? |
| 10:25.18 | Kgentux | *unstable |
| 10:25.22 | ace_me | how to install xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 10:25.46 | bibe | Halitherses : how did you remove sendmail? |
| 10:26.00 | Halitherses | apt-get install exim |
| 10:26.08 | sep | ace_me, apt-get install x-window-system |
| 10:26.29 | redblades | I got a 404 on backports.org |
| 10:26.36 | bibe | Halitherses : and what does 'dpkg -l sendmail*' return? |
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| 10:27.02 | ace_me | THX sep |
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| 10:27.21 | bibe | Halitherses : I think there's an unpurged crontab script which was installed by sendmail, try 'aptitude purge sendmail' |
| 10:27.58 | sep | redblades, then type it in correctly. or browse to it from backports.org frontapge |
| 10:28.01 | cat | !info xork etch |
| 10:28.23 | zu22 | s/xork/xorg |
| 10:28.49 | redblades | Typo, sorry |
| 10:28.55 | cat | !info xorg etch |
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| 10:29.11 | redblades | okay, now, to install oo.o? |
| 10:29.13 | Halitherses | the output of the dpkg -l sendmail*: http://pastebin.com/718430 |
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| 10:29.52 | duddits_dbn | yes men coul coul |
| 10:29.57 | liable | Halitherses: dpkg -P sendmail |
| 10:30.24 | Halitherses | i did aptitude purge sendmail |
| 10:30.27 | liable | duddits_dbn: ?? |
| 10:31.05 | Halitherses | thanks bibe and liable |
| 10:32.04 | bibe | Halitherses : no problem |
| 10:32.25 | duddits_dbn | Hello everybody |
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| 10:33.28 | onetinsoldier | hi there |
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| 10:33.56 | ace_me | <sep> I get an error on running apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 10:34.10 | ace_me | metod http has died unexpectly |
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| 10:34.42 | Zugschlus | ace_me: I have read that multiple times in the last days, did you google? |
| 10:34.43 | ace_me | 1> unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000 porinting eip |
| 10:34.58 | ace_me | nope] |
| 10:35.14 | ace_me | what to do ? |
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| 10:37.04 | redblades | I need JRE! I'm getting really fed up with running after dependancies! |
| 10:37.12 | redblades | dependencies, rather |
| 10:37.16 | obo | hi - anyone have any experience installing onto a IBM M80? |
| 10:37.29 | streuner | laptop? |
| 10:37.31 | sep | ace_me, verify your network configuration, verify your name resolution configuration, verif your apt sources list config. apt-get update and try again |
| 10:37.38 | streuner | obo: /msg dpkg laptop |
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| 10:37.43 | liable | !tell redblades about install-java |
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| 10:37.56 | obo | it's not a laptop - it comes in it's own rack :) |
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| 10:38.03 | liable | !tell redblades about install java |
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| 10:39.49 | jelly-ho | RS/6000, says google. ppc? |
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| 10:40.26 | Kgentux | Should I try Debian Unstable? I plan on switching from gentoo to debian |
| 10:40.49 | Zugschlus | Kgentux: only if you are able to fix breakage |
| 10:40.55 | Zugschlus | hui |
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| 10:40.59 | obo | yup, RS/6000 |
| 10:41.01 | deeptz | yes very much.... |
| 10:41.07 | redblades | dpkg is so cool |
| 10:41.11 | Kgentux | I am currently on Gentoo ~x86 (testing) |
| 10:41.16 | obo | ppc or ppc64? |
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| 10:41.26 | deeptz | go ahead with denain testing its gr8 |
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| 10:41.39 | Kgentux | Is the unstable tree really borked ? or are there only minor problems ? |
| 10:41.51 | jelly-ho | obo: that's for you to find out |
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| 10:42.27 | Ugly_Duck | wahooo... i got my sata drives to re appear |
| 10:42.33 | Ugly_Duck | thanks for ya help ppl |
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| 10:42.36 | liable | Kgentux: mostly only minorish, with the occasional major bork to keep you on your toes. |
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| 10:43.12 | Nach | What do I have to do to make other languages not show up as boxes? |
| 10:43.16 | Kgentux | liable: Thanks , I am installing a minimal unstable (first CD only) |
| 10:43.42 | deeptz | kgentux:go ahead.....ohh brave oneeeeeee |
| 10:43.47 | Kgentux | Nach: You install fonts for the language |
| 10:44.00 | Nach | Kgentux, I want to be able to read every language |
| 10:44.13 | Halitherses | I am still getting the same problem. Why can't i just delete the cron job? |
| 10:44.14 | Kgentux | then thats a lot of fonts |
| 10:44.26 | Kgentux | Ubuntu comes with a lot of fonts by default |
| 10:44.31 | liable | Halitherses: dpkg -P sendmail |
| 10:44.35 | row | I reinstalled nfs-kernel-server now stuff mounts quickly, but reading from its still not that fast, seems to be causing timeouts, I am mounting a web root via nfs on xen with 64mb of ram and 128mb of swap, should this be slow? |
| 10:44.37 | Halitherses | i did that |
| 10:44.44 | Kgentux | You will just have to find them in Debian repoitories |
| 10:44.50 | liable | Halitherses: you said you did aptitude.. |
| 10:44.56 | Halitherses | i did both |
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| 10:45.54 | liable | Halitherses: really? then delete the file from the cron dir |
| 10:46.05 | row | its very fast over smb |
| 10:47.22 | Halitherses | done, thank you liable |
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| 10:48.42 | liable | np |
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| 10:50.01 | OUTsider | how to force mysql-server-4.1 to be re installed ? |
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| 10:50.27 | streuner | man apt-get |
| 10:51.10 | redblades | I can't see a JRE for Linux, on sun's site. only j2sE |
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| 10:52.11 | row | what would be the main cause of random timeouts on a nfs share? |
| 10:52.16 | ace_me | apt-get update did the same error ! |
| 10:53.04 | OUTsider | streuner: apt-get forces 5.0 |
| 10:53.18 | OUTsider | and in order to do the isam update to myisam I need to use 4.1 |
| 10:53.24 | ace_me | network configuration, OK - verify your name resolution DON"T KNOW HOW TO CHECK ! configuration, verif your apt sources list config. ??? apt-get update SAME ERRORand try again |
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| 10:54.07 | epsilon | don't panik |
| 10:54.29 | epsilon | and install Windows |
| 10:54.33 | OUTsider | lol |
| 10:55.17 | redblades | !doggie |
| 10:55.18 | dpkg | WAKEUPDOGGY! |
| 10:55.23 | redblades | Hee hee |
| 10:55.43 | ace_me | so ? these hints were for me ? |
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| 10:56.19 | epsilon | kinda - even if I actually don't understand what caused your panic |
| 10:56.38 | liable | ace_me: ping by hostname checks name res, paste your sources.list to paster |
| 10:56.41 | ace_me | I would like to install a startx |
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| 10:56.56 | ace_me | kinda Xfree |
| 10:57.03 | ace_me | or anything visual |
| 10:57.06 | ace_me | on Debian |
| 10:57.13 | ace_me | but errors ! |
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| 10:57.22 | ace_me | could be my processor ? |
| 10:57.23 | liable | ace_me: can you use google? |
| 10:57.25 | ace_me | a duron 1300 ? |
| 10:57.30 | ace_me | or my hdd 4.3 ? |
| 10:57.44 | ace_me | maybe in text mode on that debian |
| 10:57.44 | jelly-ho | ace_me: follow liable's advice. |
| 10:57.53 | epsilon | X even don't need 100MHz CPU to run |
| 10:58.02 | ace_me | what to ckeck |
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| 10:58.19 | liable | ace_me: connect to irc on that box, then come back\ |
| 10:58.28 | rohan | hi all, i just install postgresql 8.1.3 on sid |
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| 10:58.41 | rohan | now how do i create the user "root" and "rohan" ? |
| 10:59.06 | epsilon | in sql-shell or any gui tool of your choice |
| 10:59.09 | rohan | [rohan@debian ~]$ sudo createuser -U postgres |
| 10:59.09 | rohan | Enter name of role to add: root |
| 10:59.09 | rohan | Shall the new role be a superuser? (y/n) y |
| 10:59.09 | rohan | createuser: could not connect to database postgres: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "postgres" |
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| 10:59.19 | rohan | ouch, sorry |
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| 10:59.27 | rohan | but point is, i cant connect as user postgres |
| 10:59.29 | ace_me | even man ls output error |
| 10:59.52 | epsilon | ace_me: do you have any linux experience at all? |
| 10:59.53 | ace_me | <liable> any tool for testing mem on a debian text shell ? |
| 11:00.01 | rohan | createuser: could not connect to database postgres: FATAL: Ident authentication failed for user "postgres" ---> what do i do now ? |
| 11:00.02 | ace_me | or for testing proc ? |
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| 11:00.22 | tarzeau | sucks; bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long |
| 11:00.29 | liable | ace_me: memtest86 (not installed by default) |
| 11:00.46 | tarzeau | find . |wc -l; 85359 |
| 11:01.00 | epsilon | or standalone memtest86+ on floppy/CD |
| 11:01.19 | rohan | what is the default password for the user "postgres" on debian ? |
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| 11:01.41 | liable | rohan: have you tried /usr/share/doc/postgress?? |
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| 11:01.51 | rohan | liable: thats what i am reading now |
| 11:01.56 | jelly-ho | tarzeau: find | xargs ls ? |
| 11:02.26 | tarzeau | jelly-ho: i know. but that's not the point |
| 11:02.38 | tarzeau | jelly-ho: is this not a bug in the shell and should be fixed? |
| 11:02.48 | ace_me | may i get install memtest86 somehow ? |
| 11:02.57 | ace_me | or text irc |
| 11:03.10 | jelly-ho | tarzeau: each & every shell I've used has a static max. line length. |
| 11:03.23 | tarzeau | jelly-ho: can it be increased? |
| 11:05.03 | jind | Does anybody know of any good curses based filemanagers with ftp built in, exept for mc? |
| 11:05.22 | jind | Eventually pure ftp programs for curses? |
| 11:05.23 | jelly-ho | tarzeau: Hm, haven't ever looked for that. |
| 11:05.32 | liable | !praise mc |
| 11:06.53 | jind | But the terminal does not show curses right when using mc here |
| 11:07.07 | jind | Maybe it's a curses or terminal issue though.. |
| 11:07.56 | darkersatanic | In the exim4 configuration, there are a large number of macros set (e.g. SYSTEM_ALIASES_DIRECTORY_TRANSPORT). Where is the "official" place I should I set these? |
| 11:08.07 | liable | i had a bit of a problem with mc when xorg 7 came out, but it seems to have resolved itself |
| 11:08.16 | liable | i only just realised :) |
| 11:08.24 | tarzeau | jind: lftp? |
| 11:08.37 | tarzeau | liable: mc really is nice, just not for ftp |
| 11:08.48 | liable | darkersatanic: exim.config.macro.config.config? :) |
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| 11:09.11 | edrin | is sf.net svn working or down? |
| 11:09.13 | jind | tarzeau, I'll check it out. Thanks! |
| 11:09.25 | tarzeau | edrin: try #sourceforge ? |
| 11:09.41 | jind | darkersatanic, your nick sucks ass |
| 11:10.01 | jind | Someone needs to tell |
| 11:10.10 | petemc | no.. |
| 11:10.52 | darkersatanic | jind: Do I look like I care? |
| 11:11.07 | jind | darkersatanic, you kind of just showed that you do |
| 11:11.10 | jind | :P |
| 11:11.30 | Gnea | jind: halt. |
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| 11:12.00 | jind | Gnea, alright. Enough. |
| 11:12.18 | Gnea | jind: yes, enough out of you. stay on-topic or leave. |
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| 11:13.10 | jind | Alright |
| 11:13.21 | liable | aww cmon, dont we have enough official police here |
| 11:13.34 | Gnea | heh |
| 11:14.10 | jelly-ho | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:14.53 | liable | jelly-ho: i think you forgot the /connect irc.effnet :P |
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| 11:15.47 | jelly-ho | liable: oh sh* wrong tab ;-) http://fly.srk.fer.hr/images/shavedpussy.jpg |
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| 11:16.41 | ext | hi |
| 11:16.52 | Gnea | jelly-ho: haha |
| 11:17.33 | ext | Which debian-installer supports SAS disks ( LSISAS1064 )? |
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| 11:18.50 | ext | or why does d-i etch beta2 not support this driver? |
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| 11:19.28 | sep | ext, all hardware support comes directly from the kernel. so what you need to ask is what linux kernel supports chipset x |
| 11:19.51 | sep | ext, when you know that, we can tell you witch debian installer have that kernel or more recent |
| 11:20.24 | ace_me | sep please provide me again the install for startx |
| 11:20.32 | sep | ext, if something should be supported, but isn't autodetected you can try to alt+f2 and load the modules manualy |
| 11:20.33 | ace_me | I've installed memtest86 |
| 11:20.49 | ace_me | and lot of packages were downloaded and now I wan to retry |
| 11:20.50 | ext | sep: the modules are not on place |
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| 11:21.06 | sep | ace_me, you mean apt-get install x-window-system-core ? |
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| 11:21.32 | sep | ext, what module supports it, and what kernel version have that module ? |
| 11:21.52 | ace_me | think so |
| 11:21.57 | ace_me | I've started |
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| 11:22.44 | ext | I would need the following modules: scsi_mod, mptbase, mptscsih, mptsas and sd_mod (sd_mod seems the only module available) |
| 11:23.10 | myren | no matter how i configure with make-kpkg and menuconfig, i always get a -386 kernel |
| 11:23.13 | myren | what gives |
| 11:23.16 | myren | how do i get a -686 kernel |
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| 11:23.22 | Q-FUNK | argh! 'vt-is-UTF-8' reports that we're in old single-byte char mode, yet I have a UTF-8 locale as the system default. any idea what would cause this? |
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| 11:24.19 | liable | myren: in the processor options? what makes you think its 386? |
| 11:24.22 | ext | myren: try --revision |
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| 11:29.30 | dannythm | hi there |
| 11:29.53 | dannythm | I've a silly problem |
| 11:31.01 | dannythm | I'm tryig with eery player I got (nopatun, xmms, kaffeine, totem) to view some divx |
| 11:31.04 | dannythm | and there's no prob |
| 11:31.15 | dannythm | but I have subttles |
| 11:31.31 | dannythm | and can't add them so I can viet the divx with the subs |
| 11:31.41 | SlayerXP | dannythm: go and buy the DVD in question, and then watch it on a decent DVD player. |
| 11:32.00 | dannythm | yah, the serie's not licensed in my country yet |
| 11:32.18 | dannythm | SlayerXP: no dvd's |
| 11:32.20 | Coweater | totem should do it automatically if it has the same name as the video file |
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| 11:32.45 | Coweater | can specify by command line like totem file:///file.avi#subtitle:file.srt as well |
| 11:32.55 | dannythm | Coweater: the same name... ok so that was it... I presume they have to be both in same folder |
| 11:33.00 | dli | dannythm, mplayer can do "-sub" |
| 11:33.16 | jelly-ho | dannythm: mplayer also works automatically if the sub.file has the same name (except for the extension) |
| 11:34.18 | Esaj | what's all this new DiffIndex stuff about? |
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| 11:34.51 | liable | Esaj: new capability, cuts down on bandwidth |
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| 11:35.43 | OUTsider | sigh |
| 11:35.43 | Esaj | liable: where can I find out more about it? |
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| 11:35.45 | liable | Esaj: i dont know, the docs are very lacking, someone gave me a link to aj's blog, but even it was sparce on details |
| 11:36.03 | liable | and i dont know the ip anymore |
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| 11:36.33 | Esaj | liable: ok |
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| 11:37.11 | ace_me | startx is now trying to start my video but only strange lines there |
| 11:37.24 | ace_me | distort image there ! |
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| 11:38.31 | liable | Esaj: heh, google 'apt diff index' http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg00494.html |
| 11:39.17 | ace_me | how to change settings ? |
| 11:39.20 | Esaj | liable: ah, cool |
| 11:39.54 | dli | !drxx |
| 11:39.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 11:40.21 | dli | ace_me, which video card? "lspci|grep -i vga" |
| 11:40.37 | OUTsider | !mysql-server-4.1 |
| 11:41.32 | ace_me | via technology inc vt8378 [s3 unichrome] integrated video |
| 11:41.38 | ace_me | rev 01 |
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| 11:41.53 | liable | OUTsider: do you still have it in cache? |
| 11:42.14 | OUTsider | it selects 5.0 if I want to reinstall 4.1 |
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| 11:42.25 | OUTsider | and I need 4.1 again in order to convert isam -> myisam |
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| 11:42.42 | liable | OUTsider: do you still have it in cache? |
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| 11:43.07 | OUTsider | apt-cache search mysql-server* shows 5.0 |
| 11:43.09 | OUTsider | not 4.1 |
| 11:43.25 | ace_me | <dli> via technology inc vt8378 [s3 unichrome] integrated video rev 01 |
| 11:43.36 | liable | OUTsider: no, in your apt cache /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 11:43.58 | liable | ace_me: no need for the < > when addressing people :) |
| 11:44.12 | OUTsider | nope |
| 11:44.22 | ace_me | I am just copying the name from the left history |
| 11:44.26 | ace_me | and that's why... |
| 11:44.44 | ace_me | <liable> |
| 11:44.52 | liable | <ok> |
| 11:45.02 | ace_me | there is also a bold name !~ no ? |
| 11:45.07 | ace_me | :) |
| 11:45.19 | mops | how can I install debian without some packages from important group? |
| 11:45.24 | mops | concretly - exim4 |
| 11:45.34 | ace_me | so anyone help me startx ? |
| 11:45.35 | mops | I don't want this mailserver |
| 11:45.42 | OUTsider | liable, no |
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| 11:45.53 | Zugschlus | mops: install a different MTA |
| 11:45.55 | mops | how can I install debian implicitly, without this default mailserver? |
| 11:46.08 | asg | mops: install another mailserver instead |
| 11:46.09 | liable | !equivs |
| 11:46.09 | dpkg | equivs is probably a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also "usrlocal" |
| 11:46.13 | mops | zaugschlus: yes I did, but I had to uninstall exim4 |
| 11:46.26 | mops | this isn't a problem? |
| 11:46.28 | dli | ace_me, http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=26963&group_id=102048 |
| 11:46.38 | liable | OUTsider: cant you get the package elsewhere? |
| 11:46.47 | mops | I don't want all that things/dirs that exim4 leaves there... |
| 11:46.52 | Zugschlus | mops: the other MTA package will satisfy the dependency and automatifcally uninstall exim |
| 11:46.58 | asg | mops: then --purge |
| 11:46.59 | mops | oh, ok |
| 11:47.08 | mops | asg: apt-get --purge remove exim4? |
| 11:47.23 | mops | I did, but there are some dir in spool or etc |
| 11:47.33 | asg | mops: and exim4-config and the other packages too |
| 11:47.47 | mops | and I had also problem with startup on my desktop machine |
| 11:47.53 | ace_me | There is any Xconfigurator or so for setting up X ? |
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| 11:48.01 | OUTsider | found a 4.1 (from stable) through packages.debian.org |
| 11:48.04 | asg | ace_me: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 11:48.05 | mops | the first time it booted into new deb system (concretly - exim4) |
| 11:48.13 | mops | so I don't like it :) |
| 11:48.13 | dli | ace_me, no, do drxx |
| 11:48.22 | mops | ok, thanks a lot |
| 11:48.28 | liable | OUTsider: snapshot.debian.net |
| 11:48.33 | ace_me | drxx command not found |
| 11:48.42 | Zugschlus | mops: looks like you didn't bother to read any documentation |
| 11:48.49 | asg | !tell ace_me about drxx |
| 11:49.08 | mops | zugschlues: I bother, it just LOOKS like I don't :) |
| 11:49.12 | dli | ace_me, also, forget RH :( |
| 11:49.12 | mops | I use --purge |
| 11:49.19 | mops | but forget another exim packages... |
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| 11:49.43 | mops | and installed postfix instead successfully after that |
| 11:49.47 | mops | just asking here :) |
| 11:49.54 | Zugschlus | mops: exim4 startup delays are usually caused by local misconfiguration, which is prominently documented. |
| 11:50.00 | Zugschlus | have fun with postfix |
| 11:50.04 | mops | thx :) |
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| 11:50.11 | asg | Zugschlus: breaks your heart doesn't it |
| 11:50.11 | mops | what MTA do you use? |
| 11:50.14 | Zugschlus | asg: not at all |
| 11:50.25 | Zugschlus | People, use postfix! exim sucks badly! Never use exim! |
| 11:50.29 | mops | oh, so that is my fault! I didn't read that, thats true |
| 11:50.35 | mops | :) |
| 11:50.40 | Zugschlus | (people using exim will cause me to have more work) |
| 11:50.50 | Zugschlus | so anybody not using exim is actively reducing my workload |
| 11:50.54 | mops | I think that also :) |
| 11:50.56 | ace_me | nothing ! :( |
| 11:51.09 | ace_me | is the most difficult ever seen Linux after RedHat 4.2 |
| 11:51.21 | Zugschlus | oh yeah, and when you use exim, please compile from source! The packaging of exim in Debian is the worst thing ever seen! |
| 11:51.30 | mops | :) |
| 11:51.34 | ace_me | I've managed to work with Mandrake and Puppy and Fedora ... |
| 11:51.34 | dli | ace_me, forgot RH, mentioning RH doesn't bring you any help |
| 11:51.48 | mops | zugschlus: how do you compile things under debian? |
| 11:52.09 | mops | do you make .deb from compiled binaries etc? |
| 11:52.12 | Ronin | mops: same way you do in any other distro but thats why apt-get exists |
| 11:52.18 | asg | ace_me: we've told you how to configure X in debian. It works well for all our users and requires you to answer on a few questions. If the drxx factoid didn't help, then start by letting us know why. |
| 11:52.31 | Zugschlus | !start an MTA war |
| 11:52.31 | dpkg | courier has an evil license |
| 11:52.32 | asg | *only |
| 11:52.42 | mops | ronin: yes, I know but new versions, features etc |
| 11:52.48 | asg | !give Zugschlus the MTA packager of the year prize |
| 11:53.00 | Zugschlus | asg: I do not deserve that |
| 11:53.04 | mops | are reasons to compile sometimes(rarely) but here is that possibility |
| 11:53.24 | asg | Zugschlus: you're the only MTA packager that comes in here since the Sendmail DD left some years back |
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| 11:53.27 | ace_me | asg I would like to know what question to ask |
| 11:53.31 | mops | LOL |
| 11:53.31 | xcsl | hi |
| 11:53.39 | asg | ace_me: follow the instructions provided by our bot |
| 11:53.40 | asg | !drxx |
| 11:53.40 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 11:53.42 | asg | ace_me: ^^ |
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| 11:54.12 | ace_me | what and how could I ask somebody abot and what is xmd5 |
| 11:54.17 | xcsl | Why doesn't debian and ubuntu streams merge to form a single entity? |
| 11:54.32 | mops | xcsl: that's not a good question.... |
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| 11:55.15 | xcsl | mops, why not? I was just airing my thoughts. Both are related to each other in more ways than one ... |
| 11:55.35 | mops | xcsl: because debian and ubunt are completely different... |
| 11:56.12 | mops | I personally think it is impossible to connect them together, to one project for example.. |
| 11:56.44 | xcsl | mops, not true. Ubuntu is based on debian sid. |
| 11:57.03 | mops | is BASED... |
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| 11:57.05 | liable | xcsl: ubuntu isnt debian and vice versa, end of story |
| 11:57.20 | mops | right answer, thx :) |
| 11:58.07 | ace_me | I've installed mc ! In whic folder should I look after X config file ? |
| 11:58.25 | liable | ace_me: use dpkg to edit the file, dont do it by hand |
| 11:58.36 | ace_me | XF86Config -4 ? |
| 11:59.04 | ace_me | Than please help me |
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| 11:59.17 | ace_me | desired X server driver |
| 11:59.19 | Ronin | ace_me: they told you what command to run already |
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| 11:59.25 | liable | ace_me: many people have, you dont seem to listen |
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| 11:59.52 | ace_me | I am not a english native so maybe I don't understand when you just suggest something |
| 12:00.10 | Ronin | ace_me: what is your native langauge? thers likely a debian channel for it |
| 12:00.10 | liable | ace_me: pick vesa for now |
| 12:00.20 | setcode | hi all |
| 12:00.20 | ace_me | ro |
| 12:00.34 | Ronin | !ro |
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| 12:00.41 | Ronin | fine be that way dpkg |
| 12:00.45 | setcode | hello |
| 12:00.52 | ace_me | video card bus please ? |
| 12:01.04 | liable | ace_me: just hit enter |
| 12:01.04 | ace_me | identifier ? |
| 12:01.10 | liable | enter |
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| 12:02.42 | liable | ace_me: and if you dont understand when someone suggests something, ask them to explain. most people will be glad to. |
| 12:02.49 | ace_me | finished but still pixels !!! |
| 12:02.57 | ace_me | ok liable |
| 12:03.19 | ace_me | I'm maybe closer but still not perfect |
| 12:03.23 | Piet | <ace_me> president?! |
| 12:03.23 | Piet | <liable> enter |
| 12:03.55 | ace_me | Piet don't know what are you talking about |
| 12:03.58 | liable | Piet: ?? |
| 12:04.17 | Piet | sorry, just trying to be funny |
| 12:04.22 | ace_me | so should I rerun that config ? |
| 12:04.40 | ace_me | I don't really want to make someone here unhappy including me ! |
| 12:04.46 | liable | ace_me: whats the problem with it? |
| 12:04.59 | ace_me | I just try to see it working cause ' I'll have an exam in a month or two |
| 12:05.16 | ace_me | is not showing any image ! is just a dirty image |
| 12:05.22 | ace_me | is not syncrro |
| 12:05.27 | ace_me | or something like that |
| 12:05.43 | myren | Fucking shit! six of the eight modules i asked module-assistant to build failed |
| 12:05.49 | myren | damn it |
| 12:05.53 | liable | ace_me: have you installed a desktop or window manager? |
| 12:06.05 | ace_me | think so |
| 12:06.30 | liable | ace_me: which do you like? gnome or kde? |
| 12:06.40 | ace_me | gnome |
| 12:06.52 | liable | ace_me: apt-get install gnome-core |
| 12:07.11 | liable | ace_me: and gdm |
| 12:07.32 | ace_me | gnome core is already the newest version ! So I suppose is there ! |
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| 12:08.00 | ace_me | gdm is already the newest version |
| 12:08.12 | liable | ace_me: /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 12:09.35 | ace_me | restart gdm when is it configured corectly |
| 12:09.38 | ace_me | :( |
| 12:10.12 | OUTsider | that seems to have worked |
| 12:10.17 | OUTsider | thanks liable :) |
| 12:10.30 | liable | yw |
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| 12:11.18 | Half-Left | you need to modify the {directory}/debian/control file, change xlibs-dev to libx11-dev |
| 12:11.28 | Half-Left | anyone know what this is? |
| 12:11.44 | liable | ace_me: we need the errors in the log then |
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| 12:13.51 | ace_me | any irc text ? |
| 12:14.10 | E0x | irssi ? |
| 12:14.30 | EdLin | ace_me: irssi-text |
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| 12:17.18 | yunien | hi, any idea how i can move a whole directory with ftp to another server? |
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| 12:18.35 | asg | yunien: try using lftp |
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| 12:18.42 | sly007 | Hello, I'm logging into my embedded system with a serial cable. My system has a USB keyboard attached to it, how can see its output in my minicom? |
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| 12:19.19 | asg | sly007: you mean what you type as well as the results of what you type? |
| 12:20.22 | ace_me | I am still waiting to connect /server freenode.net |
| 12:20.34 | ace_me | I can ping but no connection yet |
| 12:20.35 | asg | ace_me: try /server irc.debian.org |
| 12:20.58 | asg | ace_me: also, there may be a timeout if you don't have identd running or your firewall is silently dropping such probes |
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| 12:21.16 | asg | !tell root___ about root |
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| 12:21.51 | ace_me | tell root aboutr root |
| 12:21.53 | ace_me | !tell root aboutr root |
| 12:22.09 | ace_me | !tell root___ about root |
| 12:22.14 | asg | ace_me: he's been told |
| 12:22.16 | ace_me | !tell ace_me___ about root |
| 12:22.23 | asg | ace_me: and /msg the bot |
| 12:22.35 | sly007 | asg, the embedded system has a USB keyboad, I can see some strange output catting /dev/input/event1, but I would like this output to be on tty1 |
| 12:22.35 | SlayerXP | !tell ace_me about botabuse |
| 12:22.45 | Piet | btw there'S a differece between freenode.net and irc.freenode.net |
| 12:22.51 | asg | sly007: if you are using minicom, try turning echo on |
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| 12:23.17 | ace_me | so what log should I pass you for start x ? |
| 12:24.14 | sly007 | asg, well I don't mind about local echo, I'm writting a framebuffer, and when using the frmabuffer console, as there is no tty running (just ssh session and ling through /dev/ttyS0, I can see any output on the framebuffer. So what I need is attaching the USB keyboard to a tty |
| 12:24.44 | asg | oh, okay |
| 12:24.56 | sly007 | s/can/can't |
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| 12:26.15 | umann | Hi |
| 12:26.27 | umann | Can we download Elephant Dream somewhere? |
| 12:26.46 | asg | umann: wtf is Elephant Dream |
| 12:26.48 | sly007 | Any idea? |
| 12:27.13 | umann | its a opensource movie created by orange using tool from blender |
| 12:27.45 | asg | umann: http://orange.blender.org/ |
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| 12:30.41 | umann | http://orange.blender.org/wp-content/themes/orange/images/blog/proogs1s2.jpg |
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| 12:30.45 | umann | this is beautiful |
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| 12:31.03 | nix | hmm. i'm wondering if there's a way to check whether the monitor is turned on or off. i've been checking out get-edid package, and it can work somewhat. anyone know of any other ways to check it? |
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| 12:31.57 | adriano | como faço para o debina brasil |
| 12:32.00 | atsi | hi |
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| 12:34.55 | atsi | i am gonna a silly question but it slows me down a lot to my job. i am running sarge 3.1r2 with the default kernel. as root from a console i can mount the ntfs partitions, i did not try to write so i do not know if i can write works(do not care though). my question is that i can not get fstab to have the correct entries so even the user could mount it using a utility in kde. someone to help? |
| 12:35.52 | yunien | ok, thanks asg |
| 12:36.48 | asg | atsi: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 12:37.15 | atsi | asg it is not fat though. |
| 12:37.21 | atsi | asg it is ntfs |
| 12:37.30 | asg | atsi: read the factoid |
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| 12:37.44 | |ac3| | how can i change the netinstall apt sources.list? |
| 12:38.00 | PlasmaHH | hi, can I somehow ask apt to install of all packages the latest one thats available, even if it would mean to downgrade? |
| 12:38.23 | atsi | asg, ok i got it |
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| 12:41.27 | row | are pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin just index files of what is stored in /var/cache/apt/archive? |
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| 12:43.12 | tuxedup | i was wondering if anyone is having any problems with running the latest rkhunter from testing, mine seems to hang when it gets to the testing running processes, anyone having the same problem? |
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| 12:44.53 | adriano | #debian-br |
| 12:45.04 | asg | adriano: /j #debian-br |
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| 12:49.41 | setcode | re |
| 12:49.59 | Ronin | re? re waht? |
| 12:50.02 | Ronin | what even |
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| 12:50.22 | bjohnson | trying to add another serial port to my laptop. Wondering about using a pcmcia usb card and a serial 2 9 pin adapter. Anyone know if cardbus pcmcia cards (only usb ones I can find) will work in older laptops? ... and which ones are supported in Debian? |
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| 12:50.34 | ace_me | what log should I pass in order to help me installing X ? |
| 12:50.34 | setcode | I was deconnect, just for resent a hello |
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| 12:51.38 | GoAuLd | i heard artsd willl be deprecated or something in kde 4, then what sound server will be used? |
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| 12:52.10 | PlasmaHH | who knows, maybe esd, maybe yet another one, maybe none at all |
| 12:52.26 | GoAuLd | is it possible to use esd now under kde ? |
| 12:52.32 | GoAuLd | i dont like arts |
| 12:52.52 | john_doe | what is a good guide on getting a usb audio device working with alsa/debian? The problem is that alsaconf does not recognize the card though it's in /proc/asound/cards when the module snd-usb-audio is loaded. I'm on sarge. |
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| 12:54.19 | ace_me | root___ can't talk ? |
| 12:54.23 | ace_me | is not heard ? |
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| 12:55.12 | Ronin | well they shouldnt be on for root as one thing |
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| 12:55.39 | PlasmaHH | GoAuLd: well, I dont know if you can use it kde-wide but its running for some apps here... and btw. I cannot find any differences between different sound servers |
| 12:56.11 | ace_me | H E L P |
| 12:56.26 | PlasmaHH | D E N I E D |
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| 12:57.22 | gocho45 | hola |
| 12:57.36 | ace_me | how to configure X ? |
| 12:57.38 | Ronin | ace_me: you still havent got x working? |
| 12:57.43 | ace_me | no |
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| 12:57.57 | ace_me | i've just started a irc session on text mode |
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| 12:58.12 | Ronin | and what happens when you follow the directions you were given earlier this morning about an hour or so ago? |
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| 12:59.21 | Blissex | ace_me: lots of HOWTOs and tutorials on X configuration under Debian. Which specific problem? |
| 12:59.32 | ace_me | I see no graphical image |
| 12:59.40 | ace_me | only garbage pixewls |
| 13:00.18 | Blissex | ace_me: which card? |
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| 13:00.58 | ace_me | via vt87xx |
| 13:01.17 | ace_me | via technology inc vt8378 [s3 unichrome] integrated video rev 01 |
| 13:01.31 | ace_me | I am using vesa |
| 13:01.34 | ace_me | is that ok ? |
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| 13:02.41 | ace_me | <Blissex>? |
| 13:02.47 | Ronin | patience ace_me |
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| 13:03.22 | ace_me | I have a small buffer here so I risk to loose packets |
| 13:03.25 | Blissex | ace_me: uh I seem to remember there are some issues about that actually. |
| 13:04.00 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 13:04.00 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 13:04.00 | Blissex | ace_me: have you tried in #XFree86 or #Xorg (depending on which you are using)? |
| 13:04.20 | Blissex | ace_me: and/or try the Unichrome driver itself. |
| 13:04.32 | Blissex | ace_me: which X server and version are you using? |
| 13:04.44 | ace_me | I've downloaded yesterday the debian package |
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| 13:05.56 | Blissex | ace_me: which one for what? it is hard to help you without details of what stuff you have got. |
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| 13:06.23 | sandman | Is there an easy way to make my Debian system perform like an X terminal server? |
| 13:06.41 | sandman | Such that people can just connect, it'll come up with a login window, and new vnc sessions will be automatically handled and the like |
| 13:06.59 | ace_me | I could send you logs |
| 13:07.06 | Blissex | sandman: look for XDMCP tutorials and HOWTOs. |
| 13:07.09 | ace_me | but I don't know where to look |
| 13:07.18 | ace_me | I have a mc running |
| 13:07.26 | ace_me | if you ask me I could send maybe the logs |
| 13:07.28 | Blissex | ace_me: which version of Debian have you got? |
| 13:07.37 | Blissex | ace_me: send the log... |
| 13:07.42 | ace_me | where to look? |
| 13:07.42 | sandman | Thanks |
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| 13:07.56 | veamos | I use kde 3.3 I've installed some kde-3.5 things and now when I go to Control Center, it just shows me one menu; peripherals. can anybody help me.. because there I need "look and feel" menu, etc. |
| 13:08.03 | mutante | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 13:08.25 | xoz | sandman: google. not a debian-specific issue. there are tutorials to setup this. |
| 13:08.36 | asg | veamos: try #debian-kde |
| 13:08.41 | Kgentux | Anyone has a recent Debian unstable experience here? |
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| 13:09.19 | ace_me | 3.1 |
| 13:09.21 | mutante | what debian calls unstable others call 8.0 already, its not that "unstable" as it sounds |
| 13:09.24 | xoz | veamos: try moving .kde because it may contain old configs. |
| 13:09.36 | ace_me | cat /etc/debian_version 3.1 |
| 13:09.45 | veamos | how di I do that? |
| 13:09.48 | yaarg | try puring kde |
| 13:09.51 | yaarg | purging |
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| 13:10.14 | xoz | veamos: mv .kde .kde1 then restart kde |
| 13:10.16 | Kgentux | mutante: Is it safe to try Debian unstable? I am on Gentoo testing branch now |
| 13:10.44 | asg | Kgentux: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 13:10.52 | xoz | veamos: inside you home directory |
| 13:11.04 | ace_me | so I am left out ! |
| 13:11.18 | mutante | Kgentux: "safe" is relative, but if you ask me, why not |
| 13:11.34 | xoz | !unstable |
| 13:11.34 | dpkg | i guess unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid. see sid faq. |
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| 13:11.59 | mutante | ehm, or listen to that ;) |
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| 13:12.12 | faber3 | hi everybody |
| 13:12.23 | mutante | Trinkt Faber aus |
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| 13:13.01 | faber3 | what imap server (easy to install) can i use for the use of thunderbird? i tried courier but it fails to create new toplevel folders (for thunderbird). andy ideas? |
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| 13:13.27 | bmalee | faber3, dovecot? |
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| 13:14.08 | bartlebee | top level folders for thunderbird? |
| 13:14.17 | faber3 | bmalee: i heard about this, is it good? |
| 13:14.33 | faber3 | bartlebee: yes. thunderbird can only create new folders as sub folders of INBOX |
| 13:14.53 | bmalee | faber3, it more-or-less works without too much fiddling. |
| 13:15.36 | bartlebee | okay -- we're using dovecot which does the same.. let me check the INBOX bit |
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| 13:16.29 | abas | Hi all, I'm having a very interesting problem where my linux kernel *sends* packets with incorrect checksums... |
| 13:16.32 | faber3 | bmalee: alright. are you able to create new toplevel folders next to INBOX? |
| 13:16.33 | veamos | mm, I moved .kde to .kde1 and I lost all configurations I had in kde |
| 13:16.44 | SpAnIaRd | has anyone here had issues installing the webmin module for MailScanner? |
| 13:16.46 | bartlebee | hmm, I see a .INBOX created, but new, cur, tmp are lying in my primary mail folder |
| 13:17.05 | bmalee | faber3, I think so. |
| 13:17.15 | faber3 | bartlebee: yes. that was the same here. but still, tb could not create say a "Sent" next to "INBOX" |
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| 13:20.10 | SpAnIaRd | anyone? |
| 13:20.38 | blakkino | hi |
| 13:20.48 | SlayerXP | !tell SpAnIaRd about webmin |
| 13:20.53 | blakkino | from the GNU make manual it would seem that it is possible to use a line like "else ifnew (.." |
| 13:20.58 | blakkino | but it doesn't work.. any idea? |
| 13:21.50 | asg | blakkino: the folks in #c might know if nobody here does |
| 13:22.23 | Blissex | ace_me: can you do DCC? |
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| 13:22.56 | Blissex | ace_me: or just /msg of the log? It is in /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
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| 13:24.03 | Kgentux | How do I get a bootsplash in debian? |
| 13:24.25 | tarzeau | Kgentux: you don't , or manually yourself |
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| 13:24.44 | asg | Kgentux: /msg dpkg bootsplash |
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| 13:27.20 | Garp | Hi. |
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| 13:28.45 | Garp | Question: when using scp to another machine, is there a way to control le mode of the copied file? Doing scp file.txt machine:file.txt I would like the copied file to be 0700 even if the original is not. Is there a way? THanks. |
| 13:28.52 | cr3 | how can I use gpg to output my public key? |
| 13:29.55 | Garp | cr3: see man gpg '--export' options. |
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| 13:30.47 | hugle | if I have hardware raid1. should I do smth in my kernel config ? |
| 13:30.50 | ace_me | Blissex I've got you on private |
| 13:30.57 | ace_me | do yo usee what I am writing ? |
| 13:31.01 | ace_me | there ? |
| 13:31.12 | Blissex | ace_me: curiously, no |
| 13:31.21 | ace_me | I am root___ |
| 13:31.32 | ace_me | I am made by default invisible or ignored by the bot ? |
| 13:31.36 | Blissex | ace_me: are you identified to the nickserv? |
| 13:31.45 | ace_me | no |
| 13:31.57 | ace_me | only ace_me has a registered nick |
| 13:32.05 | Blissex | ace_me: then you can't /msg usually. Use 'ace_me'. |
| 13:32.06 | SpAnIaRd | does anyone know why the body and header checks aren't working for me in MailScanner with SpamAssassin? |
| 13:32.09 | PlasmaHH | only registered nicks can talk in query |
| 13:32.14 | ace_me | ok |
| 13:32.33 | PlasmaHH | SpAnIaRd: let me mindread your config and installation for a moment, then Ill tell you |
| 13:32.38 | Blissex | SpAnIaRd: we are sorry, but all out telepathic and clairvoyant advisors are busy on other lines... :-) |
| 13:32.41 | Tenshi | I attempted to update the testing tree (after not doing it for a while) about a week ago. Halfway through the debian package setups, there was an error, after that, every command was "not found". Upon reboot, I get a kernel panic about my init= . Using a gentoo cd, chrooting into my debian tree won't work because it says there is a corrupt library when trying to initiate /bin/sh . I can only assume it's a libc problem or so |
| 13:32.42 | Tenshi | mething. What are my options, and can I find out specifically which library is corrupt? |
| 13:33.01 | SpAnIaRd | haha sorry |
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| 13:33.17 | SpAnIaRd | does the body and header checks go in the spamassassin local.conf or the mailscanner.conf? |
| 13:33.23 | ace_me | I don't know how to use irssi |
| 13:33.26 | SpAnIaRd | when using mailscanner |
| 13:33.57 | Garp | Tenshi: the name of the corrupted lib is not given at that time? |
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| 13:34.14 | Tenshi | Garp: unforunately no :( |
| 13:34.20 | PlasmaHH | Tenshi: tried stracing? |
| 13:34.34 | Garp | Tenshi: ldd the /bin/sh first ? |
| 13:34.38 | SpAnIaRd | ? |
| 13:34.39 | Tenshi | PlasmaHH: no ... because I couldn't remember the name of the command :) |
| 13:34.48 | Blissex | ace_me: Ill try to /msg you perhaps it will work. |
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| 13:35.05 | Garp | Tenshi: 'strace /bin/sh' |
| 13:35.26 | Tenshi | also, not sure if the gentoo boot CD has ldd or strace, though It most likely does. Anything else that you guys recommend for a good recovery CD? |
| 13:35.35 | Garp | Tenshi: but ... Well, you'll likely link against the gentoo libs |
| 13:35.42 | PlasmaHH | hm, is there maybe any tricky script or something that I can use together with apt to let it upgrade all my packages to exactly the latest version that is available? |
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| 13:35.46 | ace_me | how to register a nick ? |
| 13:35.52 | ace_me | I talk alone |
| 13:36.03 | Garp | Tenshi: SystemRescueCD used to be fine, if still maintained |
| 13:36.09 | ace_me | I've joined with an other nick and see no msg from petro |
| 13:36.36 | Tenshi | Garp: yes they do. I can run the commands from the debian tree when I'm not chrooted. my quick fix was going to be to copy the gentoo library over, then do a reinstall of the package to get the latest version once it was working. |
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| 13:37.04 | Garp | Tenshi: good quickfix, to me. |
| 13:37.25 | Garp | Tenshi: copy them in some temp space and set LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 13:37.37 | Tenshi | Garp: it's got to be some standard libc library ... probably just not a well written upgrade script |
| 13:37.49 | ext | I'd like to build a custom d-i with some kernel-patches - where is a good point to start reading? |
| 13:38.02 | asg | ext: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 13:38.04 | Garp | Tenshi: or hardware error at that point? |
| 13:38.16 | faber3 | what a good program to test if my mta relays? i only have a debian box with no X11 to test this. any hints? |
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| 13:38.44 | asg | ext: another option is to use bootcd to create a livecd image from a custom kernel and debootstrapped chroot and use the write to disk feature for even quicker installation. |
| 13:38.56 | mutante | faber3: telnet to it and try sending a mail yourself? |
| 13:38.56 | asg | faber3: /msg dpkg mail tutorial |
| 13:38.58 | Tenshi | Garp: it's very possible ... the last few apt-get upgrades made my laptop suspend itself several times before it was successful |
| 13:39.13 | faber3 | mutante: o dont speak smtp that well |
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| 13:39.18 | Tenshi | Garp: I wouldn't call it a hardware error, so much as a bug or mishandled acpi call |
| 13:39.24 | asg | faber3: the mail tutorial will show you how |
| 13:39.25 | gahan | i want to recursively copy content of /home/_dir/blah/ into each subdirectory under /home/_dir/xxx/, so /home/_dir/blah/1/ and /home/_dir/blah/2/ etc. would be copied into /home/_dir/xxx/asdf/ as well as into /home/_dir/xxx/xyz/, however cp -r /home/_dir/blah/* /home/_dir/xxx/*/ doesn't copy anything |
| 13:39.33 | faber3 | asg: can i tell "mail" to use a relay, instead of "/usr/bin/sendmail" `? |
| 13:39.36 | zamaliphe | that font -misc-console-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1 which package provides it ? |
| 13:39.45 | mutante | faber3: HELO someuser .. MAIL From: user@host.com .. some text .. and it with a single . |
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| 13:39.57 | asg | faber3: mail just calls your local delivery agent |
| 13:39.57 | mutante | end it with a . on a single line |
| 13:40.06 | faber3 | mutante: and Password? |
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| 13:40.10 | Tenshi | Garp: what exactly does the LD_LIBRARY_PATH specify? |
| 13:40.16 | asg | mutante: you forgot the RCPT TO: |
| 13:40.20 | mutante | faber3: oh, its smtp with auth? |
| 13:40.22 | m6s | hello |
| 13:40.29 | faber3 | mutante: relay? yes! |
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| 13:40.43 | m6s | Has anyone clue how to setup hylafax with DSL? |
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| 13:40.49 | yos87 | Hi |
| 13:41.01 | faber3 | m6s: what question is this? |
| 13:41.10 | m6s | faber3, simple! |
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| 13:41.21 | yos87 | when I try to move folder or file , I have : nv: cannot creat directory /mnt/fat/aaa : read only file system |
| 13:41.26 | m6s | hylafax configuration i sabout serial connected modems |
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| 13:41.40 | m6s | and the google has nothing about dsl configuration of hylafax server.... |
| 13:41.48 | tyler | giftd: share_db.c:331: rec_rdfinish: Assertion `rec->offs == rec->len' failed. |
| 13:41.54 | tyler | whats this mean? |
| 13:42.27 | tziku | hello i have a problem with postgresql .... ;( "checking for libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h" . Can somebody help me please ? |
| 13:42.45 | asg | tyler: that the assertion that rec->offs == rec->len was not true. |
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| 13:43.51 | mutante | faber3: using the AUTH command look in http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2554.html for "examples" |
| 13:43.54 | PlasmaHH | tziku: what are you trying to do? libpq++ is a very old outdated library... |
| 13:44.08 | asg | !beer abrotman |
| 13:44.10 | tziku | to install postgresql for an irc server |
| 13:44.13 | yos87 | how can I make use have full access to the partition? |
| 13:44.46 | asg | yos87: what type of filesystem? |
| 13:44.49 | tyler | asg, wemmm... in plain english please? |
| 13:44.50 | ext | asg: thnx |
| 13:44.56 | yos87 | asg: fat |
| 13:45.03 | tyler | its my gift p2p its kinda screwed!!! |
| 13:45.03 | tziku | fir gnuworld PlasmaHH |
| 13:45.05 | asg | yos87: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 13:45.21 | PlasmaHH | tziku: ? |
| 13:45.32 | tziku | yes... |
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| 13:46.09 | asg | tyler: it means that some condition occurred that the code was not written to handle and it complained. You'd have to ask the developers or look at the source. Sometimes, assertions aren't critical failures so if you giftd is running fine, just ignore the error. |
| 13:46.19 | yos87 | asg: how to know the user ID |
| 13:46.21 | tziku | PlasmaHH: http://pastebin.com/718686 |
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| 13:46.39 | stranger122 | hi |
| 13:46.43 | tyler | asg, its like screwed and i cannot use gift p2p plss help me... |
| 13:46.44 | tyler | plsss |
| 13:46.47 | tyler | :( |
| 13:46.48 | asg | yos87: look in /etc/passwd |
| 13:46.50 | stranger122 | how to dcc a file to someon in text mode ? |
| 13:47.12 | asg | tyler: I'm not familiar with gift, perhaps someone else here knows though. |
| 13:47.12 | PlasmaHH | tziku: whatever, install the package containing that file |
| 13:47.19 | tziku | i installed... |
| 13:47.31 | zamaliphe | that font iso10646-1 which package provides it ? |
| 13:47.31 | tziku | all postgresql libs and postgresql...but same problem |
| 13:47.56 | PlasmaHH | tziku: so you actually have that file? |
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| 13:48.06 | tziku | yes PlasmaHH |
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| 13:48.13 | PlasmaHH | tziku: where is it? |
| 13:48.43 | tziku | here: /usr/src/rpm/SOURCES/libpq++-4.0 |
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| 13:49.05 | PlasmaHH | tziku: rpm? so its not installed with any package...?? |
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| 13:49.41 | tziku | i installed several packages who i found with apt-cache search libpq ... |
| 13:50.05 | tziku | i "updatedb" then "locate libpq++" and is there... |
| 13:50.22 | CoR | gygy |
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| 13:51.17 | asg | tziku: why don't you just apt-get install postgresql instead of trying to compile it from source? |
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| 13:51.33 | tziku | postgresql is installed... |
| 13:51.44 | asg | tziku: what are you compiling then? |
| 13:51.46 | yos87 | asg: but I'm still have the same error |
| 13:51.51 | tziku | i read on a forum lastest postgresql dosn't have libpq++ includet... |
| 13:52.20 | visik7 | what's .PHONY in debian/rules ? |
| 13:52.20 | asg | tziku: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 13:52.45 | tziku | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:52.48 | CoR | tziku, you want to recompile postgres for enableing other options? |
| 13:52.55 | asg | tziku: debian version, not kernel version |
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| 13:53.26 | tziku | CoR i just want to have installed libpq++.sh |
| 13:53.32 | tziku | asg how cand i found it ? |
| 13:53.39 | asg | tziku: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 13:53.50 | tziku | 3.1 |
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| 13:54.03 | asg | !find libpq++.sh sarge |
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| 13:54.19 | tziku | !find libpq++.sh sarge |
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| 13:54.28 | CoR | tziku, gm |
| 13:54.37 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libpq++.sh' returned no results. |
| 13:54.54 | tziku | gm ? |
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| 13:55.51 | asg | tziku: you probably need to install the postgresql-dev package |
| 13:55.57 | CoR | and what the thing this libpq++.sh? |
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| 13:56.29 | CoR | asg, it's good advice |
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| 13:56.51 | asg | CoR: or libpqxx-dev (for the C++ bindings) |
| 13:56.55 | tziku | postgresql-dev is already the newest version. |
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| 13:57.09 | Goa | hi all |
| 13:57.22 | Goa | i have a problem with my ethernet connection |
| 13:57.23 | Xteven | hi, what does "si" mean on the Cpu(s) line of top ? |
| 13:57.42 | PlasmaHH | there is libpqxx and libpq++ which are two different libraries... |
| 13:57.53 | Goa | my internet connection goes down every 10 mins |
| 13:57.54 | Goa | :| |
| 13:58.21 | valdyn | Xteven: Soft Interrupt |
| 13:58.24 | Xteven | Goa : dhcp ? |
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| 13:58.43 | Goa | yes Xteven |
| 13:58.54 | Xteven | valdyn : aha, and what does it mean if my CPU is 60% of the time in soft interrupt ? |
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| 13:59.00 | Goa | my dlink modem has dhcp server by default |
| 13:59.09 | Xteven | Goa : could it be that your firewall blocks dhcp stuff ? |
| 13:59.10 | Goa | and i am using dhcp |
| 13:59.17 | Goa | i have no firewall |
| 13:59.32 | Goa | it doest block my connection |
| 13:59.41 | Goa | sometimes the connection goes down |
| 13:59.41 | Xteven | when you lose network connectivity, do you still have an IP ? |
| 13:59.49 | mutante | is the "lease time" set to only 10 minutes in the "modem"/server? |
| 13:59.58 | Goa | uhm i didnt try |
| 14:00.26 | Goa | but i did not confgure my card |
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| 14:00.56 | tziku | ircu... |
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| 14:01.03 | abrotman | asg! |
| 14:01.10 | Goa | topsecret:/home/topsecret# ifconfig |
| 14:01.10 | Goa | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0E:A6:A8:AE:F6 |
| 14:01.10 | Goa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:01.17 | asg | abrotman: s'happnin |
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| 14:01.22 | Goa | lol |
| 14:01.27 | abrotman | asg: work-ish |
| 14:01.38 | asg | abrotman: yeah, I'm beering |
| 14:02.10 | dli | can I move a foreground job to background and with nohup? |
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| 14:02.29 | basilio_os | Hallo |
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| 14:03.24 | abrotman | asg: slacker |
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| 14:03.45 | Goa | any aidea Xteven |
| 14:03.54 | Goa | how to configure my card? |
| 14:03.57 | asg | abrotman: well, payroll just called to tell me I had too much free vacation time and that I should spend it ;) |
| 14:04.22 | RvGaTe | asg: i guess ur having a 5 week vacation... |
| 14:04.40 | asg | RvGaTe: well, only one. The rest will be used to fill in my sick time |
| 14:04.56 | RvGaTe | asg: your "sick" time or your sick time |
| 14:05.06 | asg | RvGaTe: mental health storage bin |
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| 14:05.40 | abrotman | asg: they called you at home .. while you're on vacation? |
| 14:06.04 | asg | abrotman: no, they called my office and the voice mail was forwarded to me so I listed to it bemused |
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| 14:06.13 | abrotman | asg: ah ok |
| 14:06.15 | Goa | umh |
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| 14:07.02 | thnee | how can i open a program on another display? |
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| 14:07.23 | asg | thnee: the --display= variable that most X programs honor |
| 14:07.30 | GutterPunk | Hi |
| 14:07.32 | thnee | i managed to kill all window managers so id like to start up gnome on my screen :0 |
| 14:07.36 | GutterPunk | Where do I specify my domain in Debian? |
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| 14:08.02 | GutterPunk | I got the option of configuring it during install, but figured I wanted to do it at a later time |
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| 14:08.58 | asg | GutterPunk: /msg dpkg hostname |
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| 14:09.26 | narma | hello, I use debian etch. Is there someone who know when 'vim 7' will be packaged for etch ? thanks :) |
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| 14:09.59 | GutterPunk | asg, the hostname is fine :) it's the domainname that's set to "nodomain" currently |
| 14:10.03 | SlayerXP | narma: it'll be done by this time next year. |
| 14:10.08 | asg | narma: probably a week or two after it hits sid |
| 14:10.20 | asg | GutterPunk: the factoid mentions how to set the FQDN also |
| 14:10.33 | GutterPunk | asg, oh... thanks |
| 14:11.06 | narma | thanks you SlayerXP and asg :) |
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| 14:11.31 | SlayerXP | np :) |
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| 14:12.48 | Rockj | anyone who can guide me in fixing latest ipw2200? I've tried downloading source from ieee80211.sf.net and ipw2200.sf.net and make && install but when I try to modprobe it I get errors. http://rockj.pastebin.com/718184 . Also tried apt-get install ipw2200-source and using m-a to install ipw2200 without any luck =/ |
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| 14:14.31 | byLeal__ | hello all.. |
| 14:14.55 | byLeal__ | i'm new to irc, but i have one question that i think here, is the place to ask... |
| 14:15.17 | tralala | !tell byLeal__ -about ask |
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| 14:15.39 | byLeal__ | i have one NAS server with debian sarge |
| 14:15.58 | valdyn | !tell Rockj -about ask |
| 14:16.23 | abrotman | !ipw2200 |
| 14:16.24 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, To install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. You will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) package, and contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ip2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200. It is built in to kernels >= 2.6.15 and will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 14:16.29 | byLeal__ | but i need ACL over NFS, the kernel that i'm using is 2.4.27. Is there a patch to it? |
| 14:16.47 | byLeal__ | sorry by the english. |
| 14:16.48 | yaarg | for sure |
| 14:17.02 | byLeal__ | great. :) |
| 14:17.26 | byLeal__ | i'm migrating from a SuSE kernel.. |
| 14:17.27 | Rockj | I'll try the m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200 . And I though I did ask ^^ |
| 14:17.58 | john_doe | what is a good guide on getting a usb audio device working with alsa/sarge/2.6? The problem is that alsaconf does not recognize the card though it's in /proc/asound/cards when the module snd-usb-audio is loaded. |
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| 14:18.53 | valdyn | john_doe: there's no need for alsaconf to know your card, and if its /proc/asound/cards then alsaconf is quite pointless |
| 14:19.04 | valdyn | s/its/its already in/ |
| 14:19.32 | john_doe | valdyn: ok. But how do I use it then? |
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| 14:20.02 | byLeal__ | So, i need that patch, and i thought that it was in sarge already.. |
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| 14:21.09 | john_doe | valdyn: it's in /proc/asound/cards as card1 when the module is loaded. I guess they should be swapped to activate the usb card then? |
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| 14:22.16 | Rockj | I'am still receiving all the unknown symbols when trying to modprobe ipw2200 |
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| 14:22.57 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 14:23.04 | yacoob | Any reason for 'cat file | dpkg --set-selections' not working? :( |
| 14:23.07 | RvGaTe | 40min till i can go home \o/ |
| 14:23.18 | Ronin | lucky you RvGaTe |
| 14:23.22 | asg | yacoob: try dpkg --set-selections < file |
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| 14:23.25 | row | natsei 0000:00:05.0: EEPROM did not reload in 20000 usec. <--- is that fixable? |
| 14:23.29 | row | natsemi* |
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| 14:23.52 | valdyn | !asoundrc |
| 14:23.53 | yacoob | asg: tried, same thing. |
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| 14:23.57 | RvGaTe | Ronin: alto its only 40min waiting, it takes me 1,5 hours to even GET home :P |
| 14:23.58 | valdyn | !dmix |
| 14:23.58 | dpkg | somebody said dmix was an alsa subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin, or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf, or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
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| 14:24.15 | valdyn | john_doe: even if you dont need dmix those asoundrc examples might be enlightening |
| 14:24.27 | ootput | is there a way to get a printout of all the files that an installed deb has? |
| 14:24.29 | StyXman | hi all. I just setup a ntpserver, and installed ntpdate in a cliient. but when I run the latter, I get «15 May 10:52:07 ntpdate[12976]: no servers can be used, exiting». the client can resolve the server's ip and no firewall in between. I also notice, running ntpdate under strace, that it doesn't even try to contact the server. any hints? |
| 14:24.36 | asg | ootput: dpkg -L <pkg> |
| 14:24.41 | StyXman | ootput: dpkg -L <package> |
| 14:24.47 | john_doe | valdyn: thanks! |
| 14:24.51 | Kernel-Kris | i have 2 hostap driven wirless bridges..... does anyone have experience with Bridging interfaces? |
| 14:24.52 | ootput | I stupidly ran a purge() function in /, and nuked several import .o's |
| 14:25.01 | ootput | important |
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| 14:25.07 | ootput | asg, StyXman: cheers |
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| 14:26.10 | ootput | asg: can a regexp be used in place of package? |
| 14:26.19 | ootput | I don't know whichpackages have been affected |
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| 14:26.34 | yacoob | asg: apt-get dselect-upgrade "sees" the list. Die, dselect, DIE! |
| 14:26.39 | Kernel-Kris | i have 2 hostap driven wirless bridges..... does anyone have experience with Bridging interfaces? |
| 14:26.47 | firestorm | Hi. Is there a place I can configure wget options for using apt-get ? |
| 14:26.48 | asg | yacoob: sorry, forgot to mention that bit |
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| 14:27.15 | yacoob | asg: it's strange that subsequent --get doesn't show "new" state, but, eh. |
| 14:27.16 | StyXman | ootput: only * works, afaik |
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| 14:27.23 | yacoob | asg: I despise dselect greatly. |
| 14:27.34 | ootput | StyXman: alright |
| 14:27.35 | asg | ootput: I don't think it accespts wildcards or regexes though you could use the output of dpkg -l and some awkishness to get a list that you can then feed to dpkg -L in a for loop |
| 14:27.36 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:27.36 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:27.39 | asg | yacoob: as do I |
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| 14:29.52 | Turms | i'm running etch, is there a reason why i have both /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox/plugins ? |
| 14:29.54 | StyXman | oh, stupid, silly me. ntpdate spects the server's name :( |
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| 14:30.09 | Fox_1_ | I have two computers in the one LAN. First is under debian 3.1, and second: windows xp. comp1(debian) has 192.168.0.1 ip, comp2(winXP): 192.168.0.2. When i set the comp2 ip 192.168.0.1, it didn't say anythink and work in the network. In the same time comp1 couldn't work in the network. I have tried it with two windows comps and when i change one comp ip into the second once it's gives ip conflict and doesn't give second comp access to the network and first |
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| 14:31.15 | ootput | asg: ah! dpkg-awk :) |
| 14:31.22 | asg | ootput: ah |
| 14:31.58 | ootput | I never knew about it until now |
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| 14:32.26 | asg | ootput: looks like a newer wrapper, they are creating them all the time |
| 14:32.52 | yacoob | Right. Off to further installation. |
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| 14:33.14 | Fox_1_ | did you read what i write? |
| 14:33.20 | asg | Fox_1_: still trying to parse it |
| 14:33.35 | xoz | Fox_1_: you point? |
| 14:33.42 | xoz | your* |
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| 14:34.41 | Fox_1_ | so? |
| 14:34.45 | Blissex | thanks for the appreciation... |
| 14:34.54 | valdyn | Fox_1_: why would you intentionally break your network by giving 2 computers the same IP ? |
| 14:35.03 | asg | Fox_1_: what question are you asking given the information above? |
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| 14:36.19 | GutterPunk | I use a static ip address within my vmware virtual machines. All are debian. But the entry in resolv.conf always changes back to some other incorrect value. What could be the cause of this? |
| 14:36.19 | ace_me | where could I configure IPChains please or firewall or both ? |
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| 14:36.31 | asg | ace_me: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README* |
| 14:36.32 | MoL0ToV | hi |
| 14:36.50 | Fox_1_ | valdyn: it's for testing, but inn real my server have static ip and when someone in that network put my server's ip my server is going down. |
| 14:36.53 | ootput | meh, too much trouble to figure out |
| 14:36.55 | asg | GutterPunk: is there still a dhclient running somewhere on the box? |
| 14:37.02 | MoL0ToV | I make a network boot, and when the kernel try to mount nfs fail to mount the nfs share, and here is the detailed explanation of problem: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-455411-highlight-unable+mount+nfs+5.html some suggestions? |
| 14:37.03 | ootput | i suppose dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' should do |
| 14:37.29 | Kernel-Kris | wireless bridge dropping packets before hitting hitting main network.... eth0=>wlan0<=========>wlan0<=eth0 |
| 14:37.31 | valdyn | Fox_1_: yep |
| 14:37.34 | GutterPunk | asg, I thought not since I had set it to static :s Should I kill it? |
| 14:37.38 | ootput | hm, some trash at the very beginning though |
| 14:37.42 | asg | Fox_1_: whoever is running that network should not let that happen |
| 14:37.53 | asg | GutterPunk: yes |
| 14:38.04 | GutterPunk | asg, ok thanks! |
| 14:38.08 | asg | GutterPunk: you're welcome |
| 14:38.26 | valdyn | Fox_1_: he can do even more damage by connecting your network cable to a power outlet |
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| 14:38.53 | asg | Fox_1_: or futz with the arp tables and intercept all traffic to / from your box without you knowing it |
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| 14:39.37 | Fox_1_ | listen i don't know english so mach. asg: it must do my ISP, yes? |
| 14:39.46 | valdyn | heh |
| 14:40.02 | asg | Fox_1_: if you have a contract with your ISP to provide you an IP address, they shouldn't be brining up random machines at their end with your IP |
| 14:40.18 | valdyn | Fox_1_: if someone can physically connect to your network, he can do ALL kinds of harm, no need to even consider something sophisticated |
| 14:40.31 | asg | hammer! proper |
| 14:40.34 | sigjuice | valdyn: you mean like this? http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/ |
| 14:40.36 | abrotman | !es |
| 14:40.36 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 14:41.15 | ace_me | <asg> now where is the default table (any empty one ) or where should I create it :) |
| 14:41.29 | valdyn | sigjuice: excellent |
| 14:41.44 | asg | ace_me: you just create it. If you don't know anything about iptables, I suggest using a creator script / manager like firehol |
| 14:42.31 | Fox_1_ | i and an other man use the same ISP and he have the static ip addess which is in my network(my 195.250.91.19 his 195.250.91.18). and when he change his ip into my, my server is going down. |
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| 14:43.16 | asg | Fox_1_: then contact your ISP and report him. He shouldn't be doing that. |
| 14:43.21 | Fox_1_ | we bath connecting with ISP by wierles |
| 14:43.22 | xoz | Fox_1_: try daemons that check new ips and hwaddress |
| 14:43.33 | Klavier | hello i installed debian 3.1 successfuly but apt-get searchs for only stable packages. how can change this setting i want to search for unstable packages, too ? :(( |
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| 14:44.04 | asg | Klavier: if you have to ask, you don't want to use unstable (/msg dpkg sid faq) |
| 14:44.21 | nkuttler | Klavier: use backports instead, /msg dpkg backports |
| 14:44.51 | visik7 | why I've make 3.81 in sid and there is no 3.81 in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/make/ ? |
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| 14:45.36 | Fox_1_ | i think it's a bug of debian. Because in that case windows work normal. |
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| 14:45.59 | valdyn | Fox_1_: nonsense |
| 14:46.11 | Ronin | Klavier: dont mix and match unless you want to bugger up your system :) do as nkuttler suggested |
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| 14:46.56 | tarzeau | any metapixel experts got improvement tips? http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/mosaic/ |
| 14:46.56 | Kernel-Kris | need help with brctl........anyone verssed in this subject? |
| 14:46.57 | Klavier | i ll edit etc/apt/sources.list for unstable sources |
| 14:47.02 | Klavier | im googling :P |
| 14:47.03 | valdyn | Fox_1_: its in fact a feature of linux to permit all kinds of stuff that windows does not. And this has absolutely nothing to do with your friend being able to kill your server |
| 14:47.13 | asg | Fox_1_: it has to do with the differences of the TCP/IP stacks between Windows and Linux |
| 14:47.35 | Ronin | Klavier: can you fix it when unstable breaks? |
| 14:47.47 | asg | Klavier: don't google, /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 14:48.03 | MoL0ToV | I make a network boot, and when the kernel try to mount nfs fail to mount the nfs share, and here is the detailed explanation of problem: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-455411-highlight-unable+mount+nfs+5.html some suggestions? |
| 14:48.04 | Fox_1_ | i understand, but i think it's a big and very dengares problem. |
| 14:48.09 | Ronin | asg: /msg dpkg backports would be even better :) |
| 14:48.21 | Ronin | i suspect |
| 14:48.22 | asg | Ronin: he needs to read and understand about horrid bugs before that though |
| 14:48.23 | timo- | visik7, apparently it's in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/make-dfsg/ |
| 14:48.28 | valdyn | Fox_1_: problem of you / of your ISP, but it has nothing to do with debian |
| 14:48.28 | Ronin | asg: very true |
| 14:48.29 | asg | Ronin: you are right about backports |
| 14:48.35 | visik7 | timo-: yes got it |
| 14:49.00 | Fox_1_ | valdyn: yes, my friend do that and then it say me about that. That i solve this problem. |
| 14:49.15 | Klavier | Ronin i can fix.. |
| 14:49.29 | Fox_1_ | valdyn: i didn't think so. |
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| 14:49.53 | RvGaTe | \o/ another 10min waiting and im off to home \o/ |
| 14:50.03 | asg | tick tock, tick tock |
| 14:50.14 | Fox_1_ | valdyn: i'll connect with my ISP and they will change it. |
| 14:50.18 | RvGaTe | this is so boring, lol |
| 14:50.24 | Ronin | RvGaTe: did you come in late? then you should leave early to make up for it |
| 14:50.29 | abrotman | you could go to the bathroom or something |
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| 14:50.53 | RvGaTe | lol |
| 14:51.07 | asg | or chat up the girl/guy in accounts payable |
| 14:51.07 | bboett | uhm stupid problem.... i have an account on a friends machine, but his mail server is on another machine (where i haven't an account, and am not supposed to).... |
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| 14:51.34 | bboett | i use fetchmail to get the mail from other machines.... but have to resend them to the mail server.... how do i achieve that? |
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| 14:51.50 | valdyn | bboett: man fetchmailrc |
| 14:52.01 | bboett | heh allready did that valdyn ..... |
| 14:52.21 | bboett | there's a mda switch, but that works as far as i can see only for local delivery... |
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| 14:52.33 | asg | bboett: use fetchmail to get the mail and procmail to redirect such mail to the smarthost |
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| 14:52.55 | valdyn | bboett: procmail can act as mda and can do whatever fancy stuff you want to do wit that mail |
| 14:53.41 | bboett | aww will need 2 procmailrc then.... |
| 14:53.51 | valdyn | bboett: why? |
| 14:54.12 | bboett | because i need one for regular mail receiving, and the other one for the mails bounced to the mail server |
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| 14:54.17 | valdyn | bboett: procmail can take a config file as argument |
| 14:54.32 | bboett | now i need to find the syntax for mail bouncing... |
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| 14:54.48 | kspath | bboett: You should start reading now in that case. |
| 14:55.00 | RvGaTe | 7min left :S |
| 14:55.13 | RvGaTe | abrotman: bathroom didn't help, only got me away for 3min |
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| 14:56.10 | Ronin | i think RvGaTe needs to follow a govt employee around to learn the proper way to kill time |
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| 14:56.35 | abrotman | RvGaTe: eat more mexican |
| 14:56.52 | asg | abrotman: nah, bangers and mash. Mexican comes out quickly |
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| 14:57.26 | RvGaTe | well, i can kill time... just need a skateboard, hairdryer and a rope.... |
| 14:57.39 | kspath | bangers and mash is sausages and potatos mashed |
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| 14:57.50 | asg | RvGaTe: I prefer whipped cream, a garden hose, and a copy of the Weekly World news myself |
| 14:58.19 | RvGaTe | cool, i gotta give that one a try |
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| 14:58.53 | RvGaTe | 3min |
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| 14:59.20 | kspath | RvGaTe: counting down to the hour? |
| 14:59.20 | Unetixs | hey guys, I'm setting up a very minimal system (based on Debian, but I'm starting from scratch) and I'm trying to get support for USB printers right now. All I really need to be able to do is cat to the device. I've always just plugged usb devices in before, though, and let the drivers do their thing. Where do I look for information on installing drivers for something like this? |
| 14:59.31 | RvGaTe | i can go home at 5 |
| 14:59.37 | RvGaTe | so, yeah, counting down :P |
| 15:00.01 | Blissex | Unetixs: what kind of driver are you thinking about? Just write to the device as you said? |
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| 15:00.12 | Ronin | 3 min and youre still there? man RvGaTe you need to seriously follow me around a bit, we'd be long gone by now :) |
| 15:00.21 | RvGaTe | hehe |
| 15:00.22 | kspath | RvGaTe: That was too loud. |
| 15:00.32 | Unetixs | Blissex: yeah, all I am expecting is to see a /dev/lp0 1 2 etc. |
| 15:00.39 | RvGaTe | shit |
| 15:00.43 | Blissex | Unetixs: 'usblp'? |
| 15:00.52 | RvGaTe | well, other guys in the office are leaving, so am i !!! :D |
| 15:00.54 | RvGaTe | hurray |
| 15:01.12 | RvGaTe | mister FAT guy has left the building |
| 15:01.19 | RvGaTe | cya all |
| 15:01.21 | Blissex | Unetixs: note that USB printers are not called '/dev/lp0', but usually '/dev/usblp0' |
| 15:01.44 | Unetixs | Blissex: either way, the details aren't as important |
| 15:01.47 | kspath | RvGaTe^off: Mr. FAT_guy is waiting outside for those that exit before the hour. |
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| 15:02.17 | Unetixs | Blissex: right now all I get is "usb device X is not claimed by any active driver" and I have no /dev/ entry for it |
| 15:02.45 | Blissex | Unetixs: 'usblp' driver... |
| 15:02.52 | amar-ze | anyone can tell me how to keep motd after every reboot |
| 15:03.04 | amar-ze | it's defaul one everytime I reboot |
| 15:03.10 | Unetixs | package search has nothing named usblp |
| 15:03.25 | Blissex | Unetixs: 'modprobe usblp' |
| 15:03.33 | kspath | amar-ze: man motd ? |
| 15:03.37 | kspath | amar-ze: /etc/motd? |
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| 15:04.15 | Blissex | amar-ze: you are actually seeing the '/etc/issue' and '/etc/issue.net' which are written to by a boot script |
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| 15:04.35 | kspath | amar-ze: Did you notice anything at bottom of man of motd? |
| 15:04.47 | amar-ze | sec |
| 15:04.54 | Unetixs | where do I get the usblp module, Blissex? |
| 15:05.05 | kspath | amar-ze: There is a SEE ALSO section |
| 15:05.08 | Blissex | Unetixs: standard kernel module. |
| 15:05.09 | kspath | amar-ze: man issue |
| 15:05.24 | Unetixs | I do not have it. So far I have usbcore and usb-storage but I haven't found usblp |
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| 15:05.49 | Unetixs | I'll restate: I'm building this install from scratch to keep its size to less than 10 megs |
| 15:05.57 | kspath | Unetixs: apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update; apt-file search uselp |
| 15:06.07 | Unetixs | I do not have apt kspath, I only have dpkg |
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| 15:06.13 | Blissex | Unetixs: then compile that module into the kernel. |
| 15:06.14 | kspath | Unetixs: apt-cache search keyword |
| 15:06.37 | Blissex | Unetixs: it looks pretty likely that you have forgot to compile that module. |
| 15:06.45 | Unetixs | hm |
| 15:06.50 | kspath | Unetixs: Not truely "based on Debian" is it? |
| 15:07.07 | Unetixs | well I'm using dpkg and that's about it |
| 15:07.19 | Unetixs | that's just an excuse to ask you guys for help ;) |
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| 15:07.24 | asg | Unetixs: /msg dpkg find <foo> (use our bot) |
| 15:07.57 | rovragge | Hello. Can I encourage the linux kernel to always keep the directory listing (inode info) of a certain directory in memory, or asked differently, how do I optimize the performance of "ls -l /foo" ? |
| 15:08.28 | johnsu01 | meh, shfs-source doesn't build with module-assistant in unstable. |
| 15:08.41 | rovragge | which kernel? |
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| 15:09.13 | rovragge | johnsu01: there have been patches on the shfs mailing list for some kernels |
| 15:09.26 | johnsu01 | rovragge: 2.6.15 here. I'll check it out. |
| 15:09.54 | johnsu01 | I've given up on tunneling nfs, hope this works out a little easier :) |
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| 15:10.17 | rovragge | johnsu01: try sshfs also |
| 15:10.26 | asg | rovragge: isn't filesystem data already cached? |
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| 15:10.47 | rovragge | asg: sure but if I want to optimize for a certain directory... |
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| 15:11.24 | asg | rovragge: probably having a job run ls -l /foo periodically to keep the cache from going stale? Make sure to have plenty of memory |
| 15:11.43 | johnsu01 | rovragge: Are you sure? sshfs has a grave bug "does not work" :) That sounds pretty serious, hah. |
| 15:12.35 | asg | rovragge: I'm not sure the kernel's fs cache is granualar enough for what you want to do. maybe someone on ##kernelnewbies knows though. |
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| 15:13.43 | rovragge | johnsu01: I use sshfs on 2.6.15 |
| 15:13.57 | pawdro | how can I know from which directory gmplayer uses fonts? |
| 15:14.06 | pawdro | (sid distro) |
| 15:14.09 | tarzeau | pawdro: strace it |
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| 15:14.29 | sly007 | Hello, when I insmod fbcon, I have a seg fault, althought the modules is eventually inserted. What's the problem? |
| 15:15.12 | asg | !insmod |
| 15:15.12 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
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| 15:16.42 | pawdro | tarzeau: but how? |
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| 15:17.39 | johnsu01 | rovragge: just making fun of the bug description. Works fine here. Thanks for the recommendation. |
| 15:17.40 | pawdro | i can't imagine how to do it |
| 15:17.53 | tarzeau | pawdro: strace program &> logfile |
| 15:17.58 | tarzeau | pawdro: then grep in the logfile |
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| 15:19.56 | rovragge | johnsu01: samba over openvpn is what I settled for after much testing |
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| 15:20.32 | rovragge | johnsu01: even for linux<->linux. even though cifs performance sucks. |
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| 15:21.20 | johnsu01 | rovragge: I was using samba, but I was having problems with write permissions from one of my boxes that I couldn't solve. |
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| 15:22.18 | Meaw | hey guys |
| 15:22.27 | Meaw | i can't install freeraduis |
| 15:22.36 | Meaw | am gettin this message |
| 15:22.36 | Meaw | Setting up freeradius (1.1.0-1.1) ... |
| 15:22.37 | Meaw | The group `freerad' already exists as a system group. Exiting... |
| 15:22.37 | Meaw | freerad : freerad shadow |
| 15:22.37 | Meaw | Stopping FreeRADIUS daemon: freeradiusinvoke-rc.d: initscript freeradius, action "restart" failed. |
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| 15:24.36 | Meaw | anyone? |
| 15:24.37 | yaarg | Meaw: obvious solutionw ould be to remove the group first... |
| 15:24.47 | Meaw | how? |
| 15:24.52 | pawdro | tarzeau: where i can paste things? |
| 15:25.01 | pawdro | i cant remember web |
| 15:25.02 | asg | Meaw: groupdel |
| 15:25.04 | Ronin | pawdro: paster or pastebin.com |
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| 15:25.25 | the_mug | is there any special switch I have to use with wget to get it to work with http? It only seems to work with ftp. I come from a Fedora / Ubuntu / Gentoo background... just installed my first Debian Production server...it's nice! |
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| 15:27.40 | yacoob | ....ok, a practical question. Rotatable LCD. How to rotate the content of the display? :) |
| 15:27.59 | yacoob | (following the rotation would be grand, but lets stick to the basics... :) |
| 15:28.07 | rovragge | yacoob: xrandr extension |
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| 15:28.20 | rovragge | yacoob: and windowmanager support for it |
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| 15:28.55 | Meaw | sorry i d/c |
| 15:29.11 | yacoob | rovragge: xrandr -q happily told me that there are no rotations possible. Any other way? |
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| 15:29.33 | Meaw | ppp:/usr/lib# groupdel freerad |
| 15:29.33 | Meaw | groupdel: cannot remove user's primary group. |
| 15:29.41 | Meaw | how to remove it |
| 15:29.53 | rovragge | yacoob: get an X server that supports it and make sure the extension is loaded |
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| 15:30.17 | rovragge | yacoob: also a gfx driver I suppose |
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| 15:31.09 | yacoob | rovragge: is there a list of supported combinations? |
| 15:32.09 | rovragge | yacoob: read your X server specs |
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| 15:36.33 | kspath | the_mug: Is man wget not in the correct language? |
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| 15:40.44 | piotr_ | Czy sa tu jacys polacy? |
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| 15:40.59 | kspath | !pl |
| 15:41.00 | dpkg | pl is, like, sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 15:41.20 | piotr_ | czyli jednak sa :] |
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| 15:41.45 | sly007 | Hello, when I modprobe fbcon, I have a seg fault, althought the modules is eventually inserted. What's the problem? |
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| 15:42.25 | kspath | piotr_ : Tylko po Angielsku tu tai. |
| 15:42.28 | HermanDE | Morn'in folks..... Anybody have any suggestions for creating an SNMP daemon that can monitor ethernet numbers? |
| 15:42.37 | tombs | hi all |
| 15:42.39 | rovragge | sly007: look in 'dmesg' log |
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| 15:42.54 | kspath | HermanDE: MAC addresses or IP addresses? |
| 15:43.22 | tchiak | how can i mount a local drive so that all users can modify it's contents and/or write to the mounted disk? |
| 15:43.27 | kspath | HermanDE: What are "ethernet numbers"? |
| 15:43.28 | HermanDE | kspath, I'm just looking to use SNMP to monitor my Sarge box. IP and hopfully mac..... |
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| 15:43.43 | kspath | HermanDE: apt-cache search snmp |
| 15:43.49 | Wuffi600 | is there a transparent screensaver for X? |
| 15:44.08 | kspath | Wuffi600: Define "transparent". |
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| 15:44.16 | HermanDE | kspath, Already done.... The default snmpd.conf does not really explain how to setup monitoring for networking... |
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| 15:44.34 | kspath | HermanDE: You will want to study in that case. |
| 15:44.53 | piotr_ | kspath: ale na na #debian.pl jest tylko jakis "Tygrys" ktory i tak nie odpowiada.... |
| 15:45.04 | sepski | HermanDE, mointor sarge from where ? if it's another debian then munin will do most needed monitoring without snmp |
| 15:45.07 | kspath | !tell HermanDE about research |
| 15:45.11 | Wuffi600 | kspath: i think of just locking inputdevices and not modifying the view of the X-Desktop. |
| 15:45.14 | HermanDE | kspath, Gawd... You are helpful. Yes, I've been to the associated web site. Attempted to email the creators of the package and system.... No responses over the weekend... |
| 15:45.29 | sly007 | rovragge, there's nothing added in dmesg |
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| 15:45.35 | Wuffi600 | kspath: so "invisible" would be a better word. |
| 15:45.47 | kspath | HermanDE: Unfortunately it would seem those "developers" are not in #debian now. |
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| 15:46.10 | HermanDE | sepski, I need SNMP... I would love to use just about anything else..... |
| 15:46.16 | kspath | piotr_: This channel is English. |
| 15:46.31 | piotr_ | super, dzieki za pomoc... |
| 15:46.38 | sepski | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:46.44 | kspath | piotr_: You are welcome. |
| 15:47.16 | sepski | HermanDE, i get bytes/sec pps and errors from default netsnmp without any changes. |
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| 15:47.27 | HermanDE | sepski, That is the problem.... How do I setup snmpd to use netsnmp? |
| 15:47.49 | HermanDE | sepski, I would really love to see that info... |
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| 15:49.35 | visik7 | is there a way to wait for an interface to come up |
| 15:49.36 | visik7 | ? |
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| 15:50.56 | kspath | visik7: Did you want to be more specific? What "interface(s)"? What/who will wait? Time-frame? |
| 15:51.04 | visik7 | ok |
| 15:51.14 | visik7 | I have openvpn that should be bridge with another iface |
| 15:51.34 | kspath | visik7: And? |
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| 15:51.42 | the_mug | kspath: en que idioma queres que lea los manuales de wget? pienso que el punto de los IRC channels son para AYUDAR y no para humillar a la gente cuando hace preguntas! |
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| 15:51.53 | sepski | HermanDE, the only think i altered in my config is iirc the comunity strings. to set my own passwords |
| 15:51.53 | the_mug | kspath: let me know if you need me to translate! |
| 15:51.54 | kspath | the_mug: This channel is English only. |
| 15:51.57 | visik7 | but openvpn start after interfaces and tap0 doesn't exists |
| 15:52.08 | kspath | the_mug: Let me know if you want to got to another channel. |
| 15:52.13 | sepski | HermanDE, then it's just the matter of getting the oids right on the querying side |
| 15:52.36 | valdyn | visik7: how is openvpn started? |
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| 15:52.47 | HermanDE | sepski, I'm trying to do a simple reinstall of snmpd..... |
| 15:52.54 | visik7 | valdyn: from a script in /etc/init.d linked in the runlevel |
| 15:53.20 | the_mug | kspath: what language would you like my man pages to be in?? I thought IRC channels where for people to seek help.. and NOT smartass questions as answers? correct me if I'm wrong.. |
| 15:53.33 | valdyn | visik7: which startup priority on openvpn, which on your network interfaces? |
| 15:53.59 | valdyn | visik7: ls /etc/rc3.d/S* |
| 15:54.05 | visik7 | 3 or 2 ? |
| 15:54.09 | kspath | the_mug: You are wrong in several ways. I will not list them. |
| 15:54.13 | valdyn | visik7: no idea |
| 15:54.14 | visik7 | valdyn: let me check |
| 15:54.15 | valdyn | !runlevel |
| 15:54.15 | dpkg | hmm... runlevel is 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot, or see also runlevels, or note that debian doesn't have separate runlevels for graphical and non-graphical logins by default. note that debian doesn't have separate runlevels for graphical and non-graphical logins by default. |
| 15:54.19 | stew | the_mug: just ignore him. |
| 15:54.43 | stew | the_mug: you should need no special switch. do you use/need a http proxy? |
| 15:54.57 | thingfish | I'm using sarge. I would like to gain access to sid's version of synaptic's help files. Is that possible, without backporting sid's version of synaptic? |
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| 15:55.03 | valdyn | the_mug: you can try viewing your english manpages via 'LC_ALL_C man whatever' |
| 15:55.07 | the_mug | I'm behind a 506E Cisco Pix |
| 15:55.07 | smagy2 | hello folks, can some one please tell me how do go about an easy method to install locales and configure the default values ? i was hoping to do something like ssh hostname "apt-get install locales " and some command that would configure the default vaules that are managed by debconf |
| 15:55.10 | valdyn | the_mug: you can try viewing your english manpages via 'LC_ALL=C man whatever' |
| 15:55.22 | visik7 | valdyn: openvpn is 16 |
| 15:55.25 | thingfish | I'd get synaptic from backports.org, but it wants to upgrade apt and aptitude, and I'm not sure I want that. |
| 15:55.27 | visik7 | networking isn't present |
| 15:55.42 | visik7 | networkins is in rcS |
| 15:56.00 | valdyn | visik7: so its started before openvpn anyway |
| 15:56.00 | stew | the_mug: are you getting an error with wget or just a timeout? connection refused? |
| 15:56.05 | the_mug | stew: I'm looking at the PIX logs and no special problems... my Ubuntu laptop works fine... hmmm |
| 15:56.06 | visik7 | valdyn: ya |
| 15:56.24 | the_mug | stew: just timeout and ftp works fine |
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| 15:56.41 | valdyn | visik7: i dont know about tapX, maybe you need to load the driver for that manually |
| 15:57.11 | stew | the_mug: can you connect to port 80 on the remote webserver using "telnet foo.com www"? |
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| 15:57.23 | valdyn | visik7: how are you bringing up your tap if openvpn doesnt do that itself? |
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| 15:57.35 | the_mug | stew: I'll try that. 1 sec |
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| 15:57.47 | valdyn | !tap |
| 15:57.47 | dpkg | i guess tap is crazy ;) (apt, tap, are you trying to confuse me?), or annoying :) |
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| 15:58.28 | kspath | the_mug: If your setup will not translate www as it should automajikally you are welcome to try "telnet foo.com 80". |
| 15:58.43 | the_mug | stew: times out.. I wonder if there's a special setting somewhere in Debian |
| 15:58.45 | faber3 | is there an exim with mysql support in debian? |
| 15:58.55 | the_mug | kspath: that's what I tried. |
| 15:59.07 | asg | faber3: yes, install the exim4-deamon-heavy package |
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| 15:59.26 | stew | the_mug: no, if telnet doesn't work, then the problem is with routing / firewalling |
| 15:59.28 | valdyn | faber3: apt-cache search exim mysql |
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| 15:59.54 | kspath | the_mug: I agree with stew. The routing/firewalling can be local or remote or both. |
| 16:00.14 | visik7 | valdyn: the tap0 is created when openvpn is stared not when tun module is loaded |
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| 16:01.10 | the_mug | stew: kspath: I would think it's something in the box since my other servers are working fine... as far as wget is concerned... what does apt-get use? because it's working fine on this New Debian box! Which makes the situation more bizzare. :-/ |
| 16:01.11 | kspath | the_mug: There is a service level "trace" utility in repository. I have not played with it yet. |
| 16:01.13 | valdyn | visik7: so openvpn creates tap when it needs it, what is the real problem then? |
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| 16:01.42 | the_mug | kspath: tracepath I think it's called I have it on my other boxes... good call I'll try that. |
| 16:01.56 | deuce868 | anyone help with Bind9 issue? Getting SERVFAIL when queried from outside the network. Internal works fine. I have two views named.conf and the zone file here http://pastebin.com/718936 |
| 16:02.34 | duddits | hello world |
| 16:02.39 | kspath | the_mug: Is the user/path that you are testing wget with restricted and/or chrooted in any way? |
| 16:02.42 | stew | the_mug: is your sources.list setup to use ftp or http? |
| 16:02.59 | deuce868 | dns server has been running for apprx 3 years. Wondering if I need to refresh my root hints file or something? |
| 16:03.05 | valdyn | deuce868: so your nameserver isnt accessible or not even resolvable from outside? your own named.conf has nothing to do with that |
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| 16:03.43 | valdyn | deuce868: ( unless you intentionally restrict access naturally ) |
| 16:03.57 | deuce868 | valdyn: Right, I can't seem to access it. The server is responding on port 53, I can telnet into it on that port, and nmap shows it is listening |
| 16:04.11 | valdyn | deuce868: from outside too? |
| 16:04.18 | faber3 | asg: thanks |
| 16:04.28 | deuce868 | valdyn: yes, I can telnet port 53 from the outside |
| 16:04.46 | stew | deuce868: telnet uses tcp and dns queries use udp, are you sure you can get to your server from the outside using udp too? |
| 16:05.10 | deuce868 | stew, I do have the cisco router installed set to forward both. Not sure how to test a udp packet though |
| 16:05.20 | regurgitate | hi |
| 16:05.26 | the_mug | stew: ftp |
| 16:05.36 | stew | the_mug: the its not suprising that apt works |
| 16:05.38 | kspath | deuce868: There are several tools including nmap and amap that might help you a bit. |
| 16:05.53 | valdyn | deuce868: and which host doesnt resolve? |
| 16:05.55 | stew | deuce868: nc can test udp |
| 16:05.56 | deuce868 | k, I used nmap internal on the machine, but not external |
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| 16:06.11 | regurgitate | i need help with sata and ide |
| 16:06.11 | deuce868 | valdyn: msufame.msu.edu (dns server is on 207.74.128.3) |
| 16:06.15 | the_mug | stew: where could I look in Debian for any firewall rules? |
| 16:06.20 | regurgitate | can somebody helpme ? |
| 16:06.24 | kspath | deuce868: netcat and socat can work for testing |
| 16:06.43 | stew | the_mug: "iptables -L" |
| 16:06.43 | valdyn | deuce868: resolves fine for me, just not to your address |
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| 16:07.02 | stew | the_mug: there won't be any rules unless someone explicitly set them up |
| 16:07.16 | visik7 | valdyn: the real problem is that bridge_ports eth0 tun0 doesn't work 'couse when it's called tun0 doesn't exists |
| 16:07.16 | deuce868 | valdyn: yea, I talked to my upstream guy today (Michigan State) and they moved the record to point to the working slave dns |
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| 16:07.42 | deuce868 | valdyn: I want to figure out why the main dns server is giving the SERVFAIL though to get it back |
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| 16:08.31 | the_mug | stew: I see... one siden question: on my sources.lst file I have some commented out repos should I uncomment them? or what should my sources.lst file look like for a Production Server? |
| 16:08.37 | the_mug | side* |
| 16:09.08 | kspath | deuce868: dig nslookup host and whois are all useful NS related commands for checking/looking/testing |
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| 16:09.42 | thingfish | the_mug: you probably only want pure sarge sources for a production server. |
| 16:09.50 | stew | the_mug: i dont' know without looking whether they should be uncommented. for a production server you should just need an official debian mirror and a security.debian.org repository |
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| 16:10.12 | deuce868 | kspath: I have been using those and getting the SERVFAIL from them. When I look up the SERVFAIL error in the bind docs there seem to be a few issues. One is bad root hints file and another is an expiration I can't seem to find how to unexpire |
| 16:10.22 | the_mug | stew: thingfish: that's what I got right now... just wondering. :-) thanks. |
| 16:10.33 | stan-whitfield | anyone know the default location of .fetchmailrc ? |
| 16:10.37 | ace_me | what is TTL expired in transit. |
| 16:11.02 | kspath | deuce868: If you control a/the bind server look for nslint utilities for long term . |
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| 16:11.19 | stan-whitfield | or how to find .fetchmailrc? |
| 16:11.21 | the_mug | stew: this is so weird... I guess I can live with ftp working for wget for now... :-/ |
| 16:11.29 | sepski | ace_me, TTL = TimeToLive |
| 16:11.46 | the_mug | stew: kspath: thingfish: thanks for your help |
| 16:11.49 | asg | ace_me: the machine you were pinging is further away than the maximum hop count |
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| 16:11.55 | kspath | stan-whitfield: Did you look in your home directory? |
| 16:12.00 | beered | how do I get md5sum app? I tried apt-cache and it turns out nothing. |
| 16:12.00 | mtnman | stan-whitfield: .fetchmailrc usually goes in your home directory. man fetchmail or look at docs in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail |
| 16:12.47 | stan-whitfield | man fetchmail doesn't give the location unfortunately |
| 16:12.49 | kspath | stan-whitfield: Almost every .name_of_rc files are in your/the home directory of whatever user you are working with/for. |
| 16:12.53 | stew | beered: its in the "dpkg" package, you must have it |
| 16:13.29 | stan-whitfield | I thought i recall reading that there is only one location of fetchmailrc and it doesn't go in a standard user home directory |
| 16:13.34 | kspath | stan-whitfield: What does man fetchmailrc say? |
| 16:13.43 | stan-whitfield | does root have a home dir? |
| 16:13.45 | stew | stan-whitfield: it can be /etc/fetchmailrc as well |
| 16:13.46 | deuce868 | kspath: nslint has no issues with my named.conf. |
| 16:13.53 | mtnman | stan-whitdfield: well, we told you it normally licves in your home directory. you can look at the docs in /usr/share/doc/fetchnmail for more info. |
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| 16:14.00 | asg | stan-whitfield: /root generally. check /etc/passwd to be sure |
| 16:14.05 | stan-whitfield | k |
| 16:14.07 | stan-whitfield | thx guys |
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| 16:15.19 | beered | stew: md5sum verify chkrootkit.tar.gz gives me an error message. |
| 16:15.29 | mtnman | stan-whitfield: btw, in the "FILES" section aqt the end of man fetchmail, ther is an entry called "~/.fetchmailrc" |
| 16:15.39 | beered | stew: and the error message is "md5sum: verify: No such file or directory" |
| 16:15.41 | kspath | stew: Sometimes my sarcasm with some "nicks" is to try to nudge them into doing basic research. |
| 16:15.54 | the_mug | BTW Debian is a lean and clean distro for servers... I DO NOT know why I never pursued it as an option until now! :-) |
| 16:15.58 | stew | kspath: huh? |
| 16:16.06 | kspath | stew: Sometimes my sarcasm with some "nicks" is to try to nudge them into doing basic research. |
| 16:16.16 | stew | kspath: why are you telling me this? |
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| 16:16.34 | kspath | stew: Apparently, to cause you confusion. I am sorry for that. |
| 16:17.03 | stew | beered: you are issuing the command? "md5sum verify chkrootkit.tar.gz"? if so it would be trying to calculate the md5sum of a file named "verify" which it cannot find |
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| 16:17.17 | stan-whitfield | ok, I'm path handicapped. where is "~/.fetchmail"? what does "~/" specify? |
| 16:17.32 | valdyn | deuce868: your .3 nameserver isnt working, but .4 is working |
| 16:17.44 | deuce868 | valdyn: Yes, .4 is the slave to .3 |
| 16:17.45 | valdyn | deuce868: both your boxes? |
| 16:17.47 | stew | stan-whitfield: ~ is shorthand for "the current user's home directory" |
| 16:17.49 | deuce868 | valdyn: yes |
| 16:17.50 | beered | stew: ghee. do i feel silly. thanks. |
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| 16:18.07 | stan-whitfield | stew: thx |
| 16:18.16 | claymore666 | peoples |
| 16:18.27 | claymore666 | what's that command to select what xwm you want to use |
| 16:18.29 | claymore666 | xwmconfig? |
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| 16:19.05 | asg | claymore666: you can use update-alternatives |
| 16:19.08 | kspath | claymore666: You are not using any xdm or gdm or kdm? |
| 16:19.15 | claymore666 | gdm |
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| 16:19.19 | mtnman | claymore666: if you are asking about window managers for X, us update-alternatives as asg suggested. |
| 16:19.21 | claymore666 | switching default to kdm, just installed |
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| 16:20.01 | kspath | claymore666: Did you see/try what asg said? |
| 16:20.12 | claymore666 | im currently installing kdm |
| 16:20.17 | mtnman | claymonre666: you are discussing display managers, not window managers. update-alternatives can also set defaults for display managers. |
| 16:20.19 | chealer9 | !etch security |
| 16:20.19 | dpkg | testing security is probably Put "deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in testing. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade". |
| 16:20.23 | claymore666 | so not gonna fiddle with much while it's installing :) |
| 16:20.30 | claymore666 | sorry eh |
| 16:20.32 | stew | claymore666: wait, are you asking how to switch to kdm, or switch which window manager you use after logging in with kdm? |
| 16:20.40 | mooded | hey all.. anybody knows nice (or any) viewer programs for dvb-s cards for linux ? (would tvtime also work ? ) |
| 16:20.41 | claymore666 | how to switch between kdm and gdm |
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| 16:20.46 | asg | claymore666: just remove kdm |
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| 16:20.57 | claymore666 | why remove ? =p |
| 16:21.00 | lostson | if i have to computers and no interenet using a crossover cable what is the best way to share files between them ? |
| 16:21.02 | asg | claymore666: if you are using gdm, you generally don't need kdm |
| 16:21.03 | claymore666 | i miss it, im used to slack |
| 16:21.11 | mtnman | claymore666: man update-alternatives. |
| 16:21.11 | stan-whitfield | stew: thx again. the problem was I forgot what user the fetchmail cronjob ran as. Once I found the user, I found the .fetchmailrc |
| 16:21.11 | kspath | claymore666: You only need xdm OR gdm OR kdm. |
| 16:21.12 | stew | !etch security =~ s/stable/etch/ |
| 16:21.12 | dpkg | that doesn't contain 'stable', stew |
| 16:21.13 | beered | Has anybody tried compiz on a budget (16MB or less) video card? I wonder if I need to upgrade the video card to run it. |
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| 16:21.21 | claymore666 | ah, confused i am then |
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| 16:21.35 | asg | lostson: ftp, samba, scp. Any of the standard transports will work |
| 16:21.41 | claymore666 | ok, so i installed kde-desktop |
| 16:21.49 | claymore666 | however, i just realised, im on ubuntu |
| 16:21.54 | lostson | asg even though there is no network ? |
| 16:21.55 | claymore666 | but im in #debian |
| 16:21.56 | claymore666 | :P |
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| 16:22.07 | asg | lostson: you can configure the crossover to do networking with pppd |
| 16:22.11 | chealer9 | dpkg: no, etch security is <reply> Put "deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Regularly update your APT index and upgrade (e.g. # aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade) to keep up-to-date on security updates in Etch |
| 16:22.12 | dpkg | chealer9: okay |
| 16:22.13 | kspath | claymore666: Did you just realize that you need to /join #ubuntu ? |
| 16:22.19 | claymore666 | i'm in it |
| 16:22.28 | alex116 | can I replace an athlon xp 2800 with a sempron 3000 or are there incompatibilities? |
| 16:22.30 | claymore666 | i just got home, forgot this window was open |
| 16:22.32 | lostson | asg hmm ok never tried this before so am curious |
| 16:22.33 | chealer9 | dpkg: no, testing security is <reply>see etch security |
| 16:22.33 | dpkg | okay, chealer9 |
| 16:22.49 | asg | lostson: check the serial HOWTOs at tldp.org. I think they show how its done |
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| 16:23.08 | lostson | asg ok thank you |
| 16:23.12 | valdyn | deuce868: tried running named with debugging on? |
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| 16:23.22 | asg | lostson: you're welcome |
| 16:23.50 | mtnman | asg: pppd is not needed with a crossover cable. simple ip networking functions. |
| 16:23.52 | deuce868 | valdyn: No, I haven't. I'll look it up. |
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| 16:24.02 | duddits | just for test |
| 16:24.13 | nalka | hi! |
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| 16:24.42 | asg | mtnman: ah, okay. Thanks |
| 16:24.51 | asg | lostson: see what mtnman said above |
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| 16:25.06 | lostson | nope |
| 16:25.15 | lostson | ok yeah |
| 16:25.21 | asg | mtnman: I thought he was using a serial crossover, not an ether crossover :) |
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| 16:25.38 | Liquid_Ic | I want to run an instance of mozilla from a php script. Does anyone know the settings I need to change to allow the www-data user to launch programs in X? |
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| 16:25.59 | mtnman | asg: the serial variety are usually redferred to as "null-modems" |
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| 16:26.28 | asg | mtnman: yeah, brain fart on my part |
| 16:26.29 | crookshanks | I'm pulling my hair out over /dev/psaux. I just installed linux-source-2.6.15-1-686, and my /dev/psaux disappears. I read all the documentation I can find and it's nowhere to be found (even in /dev/misc/psaux). Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 16:26.33 | mith | Liquid_Ic: that is the stupidest idea ever, don't do that |
| 16:26.43 | mith | Liquid_Ic: but if you really want to do that for some reason, man xauth |
| 16:26.46 | lostson | well it will be interesting |
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| 16:27.30 | chealer9 | crookshanks: do you have a /dev/input/mice ? |
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| 16:27.40 | crookshanks | chealer9: nope |
| 16:27.54 | chealer9 | crookshanks: is the mousedev Linux module loaded? |
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| 16:28.01 | Liquid_Ic | ok mith, i'll take a look. if i could limit the security to only launching mozilla that would be better, but not a priority |
| 16:28.17 | crookshanks | chealer9: i've done "modprobe mousedev", but afterwards I do lsmod and it's still not there |
| 16:28.25 | GhOsTLip | hi all, i'm using wu-ftp+pam+ldap, can someone tell me how to do the wuftp creates de home dir with the first login ? |
| 16:28.27 | crookshanks | chealer9: but no errors show up when I run modprobe |
| 16:28.59 | crookshanks | chealer9: so I'm stumped |
| 16:29.08 | chealer9 | crookshanks: OK, I don't know |
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| 16:29.16 | sef | !nvidia |
| 16:29.16 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 16:29.35 | sepski | GhOsTLip, if you use pam. you should be able to use libpam-mkhomedir |
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| 16:30.02 | crookshanks | chealer9: ok, thanks anyway |
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| 16:30.27 | crookshanks | chealer9: time to recompile a custom kernel, since debian's packaged kernel seems to do nothing but piss me off in the past and now |
| 16:30.28 | GhOsTLip | sepski, so I need just to add the line with libpam-mkhomedir into wu-ftpd.conf ? |
| 16:30.36 | stew | crookshanks: unless modprobe is exiting with an error, it really should be showing up in lsmod afterwords |
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| 16:30.51 | crookshanks | stew: yeah i know, but it doesn't |
| 16:30.53 | deuce868 | valdyn: I tried to run rndc -V trace to bump up the logging and I get this in the syslog: isc_log_open 'named.run' failed: permission denied |
| 16:30.53 | sepski | GhOsTLip, no. you must install the package libpam-mkhomedir , and read the included documentation |
| 16:30.55 | sid | Anyone have a good suspend2 guide for debian GNU/Linux on a laptop?(I already did /msg dpkg suspend2) |
| 16:30.55 | crookshanks | stew: it's bizarre |
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| 16:31.20 | chealer9 | crookshanks: oh...sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought you said you did ls and the devices still didn't show |
| 16:31.21 | stew | crookshanks: does anything show up in dmesg? |
| 16:31.23 | GhOsTLip | sepski, Perfect! Thank You, So Much! |
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| 16:31.53 | crookshanks | stew: nothing |
| 16:32.05 | stew | crookshanks: what happens when you run "modprobe -r mousedev"? |
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| 16:33.05 | crookshanks | stew: nothing |
| 16:33.14 | crookshanks | stew: no errors, nothing |
| 16:33.21 | stew | crookshanks: actually nm, i thought that would return an error if the module wasn't loaded but that is not the case |
| 16:33.33 | crookshanks | stew: actually, when i did that i got a line in dmesg |
| 16:33.45 | stew | crookshanks: with a -r? |
| 16:33.48 | crookshanks | stew: about usbcore deregistering usbmouse |
| 16:33.55 | crookshanks | stew: yes |
| 16:33.59 | stew | crookshanks: yeah, then mousedev must have actually been loaded |
| 16:34.36 | crookshanks | stew: just reloaded mousedev, but no psaux anywhere |
| 16:34.49 | stew | crookshanks: "modprobe psmouse" for psaux |
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| 16:35.07 | crookshanks | stew: i've done that also |
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| 16:35.16 | crookshanks | stew: modprobe, rmmod, whatever... still doesn't show up |
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| 16:35.36 | stew | crookshanks: what exactly isnt' showing up where? |
| 16:35.48 | crookshanks | stew: my psaux device |
| 16:35.54 | crookshanks | stew: in either /dev or /dev/misc |
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| 16:36.32 | stew | crookshanks: do you run udev or devfs? |
| 16:36.36 | crookshanks | stew: udev |
| 16:36.50 | fourat | how to get the latest KDE Desktop version with apt ? |
| 16:36.54 | stew | crookshanks: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 16:36.58 | chealer9 | fourat: ask #debian-kde |
| 16:37.48 | kspath | fourat: Are you running Sarge/Stable OR Etch/Testing OR Sid/Unstable? |
| 16:38.00 | crookshanks | stew: 2.6.15-1-686 |
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| 16:38.20 | fourat | kspath, Sarge/Stable |
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| 16:38.44 | kspath | fourat: What do you define as "latest KDE Desktop version" ? |
| 16:39.01 | zulu | how to remove the basename in the burn for growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -R -J /basename/myfile ? |
| 16:39.09 | byLeal__ | I have a problem with NFS ACL on kernel 2.4.27; I'm running debian version sarge; where is the NFS ACL patch to Debian? |
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| 16:39.41 | cahoot | crookshanks: rgrep -i psaux /etc/udev - retruns a couple of lines? |
| 16:39.41 | crookshanks | stew: here's what happens when I modprobe psmouse in dmesg, "input: GenPS/2 Genius <NULL> as /class/input/input3" |
| 16:40.08 | stew | crookshanks: that's good, you should be using /dev/input/mice for x, if that is your goal |
| 16:40.21 | crookshanks | cahoot: yes |
| 16:40.29 | crookshanks | stew: but that doesn't exist either =( |
| 16:40.58 | stew | crookshanks: what version of udev do you have installed? mousedev is showing up in lsmod now, right? |
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| 16:41.52 | ace_me | the remote desktop said that I can connect to debianmachine.talente.ro:0 but I can't ! Any hints ? |
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| 16:42.33 | crookshanks | stew: udev-0.091-2, still no mousedev |
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| 16:42.49 | stew | crookshanks: can you put the output of "lsmod" into a pastebin? |
| 16:43.28 | crookshanks | stew: i would if i could hehe, no mouse |
| 16:43.46 | crookshanks | stew: let me see if i can do it, gimme a sec |
| 16:43.53 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 16:43.54 | dpkg | well, pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m |
| 16:44.29 | crookshanks | stew: unfortunately this update broke gpm also |
| 16:44.40 | asg | he could use screen(1) |
| 16:44.42 | crookshanks | stew: i think i can do it, give me a sec |
| 16:45.12 | kspath | transcribe errors/logs/information? |
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| 16:45.37 | ace_me | should I type in the web browser that address ? |
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| 16:46.51 | sid | $ uname -r |
| 16:46.51 | sid | 2.6.16-1-686 |
| 16:47.01 | svref | Is there some way I can jigger a directory so that all files created inside it belong to group "safestreets"? |
| 16:47.28 | sid | Do I want... http://www.suspend2.net/downloads/all/suspend2-2.2.5-for-2.6.16.9.tar.bz2 or http://www.suspend2.net/downloads/all/suspend2-2.2.4-for-2.6.16.tar.bz2 |
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| 16:48.01 | kspath | svref: What does "jigger a directory" mean? |
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| 16:48.46 | kspath | svref: Have you considered considering which File System you want/have? |
| 16:48.56 | crookshanks | stew: having a hard time... |
| 16:49.05 | Cyberai | I'm having a problem compiling and installing BestCrypt. I get the message "Warning! your compiler version () does not match kernel compiler version (4.0.3)" despite the fact I have installed the gcc 4.0.3 from synaptic. What am I missing here? |
| 16:49.07 | svref | kspath: for example, on some old UNIX filesystems you could do this by setting the sticky bit to the directory. |
| 16:49.09 | crookshanks | stew: i can highlight it in VIM, and normally i would middle click that to paste stuff |
| 16:49.21 | crookshanks | stew: but since I can't middle click, kinda screwed |
| 16:49.36 | svref | kspath: I currently have ext3...why? |
| 16:49.52 | valdyn | Cyberai: gcc --version |
| 16:50.19 | kspath | svref: Your question was too vague. I am trying to help you define your question so it might be more likely to get a sensible answer. |
| 16:50.32 | stew | crookshanks: lsmod > somefile ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the big box, it will start vi. :rsomefile ; that will insert the file; :wq ;, it will take you back to w3m, hit submit |
| 16:50.45 | Cyberai | valdyn "gcc: command not found" |
| 16:50.51 | crookshanks | stew: ok, i'll try that |
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| 16:51.08 | valdyn | !b-e Cyberai |
| 16:51.08 | dpkg | Cyberai: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 16:51.32 | Cyberai | aaaah |
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| 16:52.02 | sid | http://pastebin.com/719043 |
| 16:52.15 | sid | How I just make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image; and reboot into it and I'm done? |
| 16:52.23 | sid | s/How/Now |
| 16:52.44 | asg | svref: just set the sgid bit on the directory ; man chmod |
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| 16:52.54 | svref | asg: thanks |
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| 16:53.21 | GSM|Kromonos | hi |
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| 16:53.47 | crookshanks | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2545 |
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| 16:56.53 | svref | kspath: thank you. :) |
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| 16:57.02 | dazjorz | Hi |
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| 16:58.02 | dazjorz | I'm getting an e-mail each day from the Quota Daemon, containing the Daily Quota Report |
| 16:58.04 | dazjorz | how do I turn this off? |
| 16:58.13 | dazjorz | I uninstalled the quota package, but it didn't help |
| 16:58.17 | stew | odd, i've never seen where a module that is loaded doesn't show up in lsmod, doesn't make sense |
| 16:58.26 | crookshanks | stew: yeah, it's weird |
| 16:58.29 | kspath | dazjorz: /etc/crontab? crontab -e -u root ? |
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| 16:59.03 | dazjorz | checking |
| 16:59.31 | dazjorz | hmm |
| 16:59.31 | dazjorz | btw. |
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| 16:59.37 | dazjorz | by default, dir is recursive here |
| 16:59.46 | kspath | dazjorz: man crontab ; man cron |
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| 16:59.57 | dazjorz | but when I want to say dir /etc/cron.*, I want to see what directories begin with cron. in /etc, not their contents |
| 17:00.11 | dazjorz | kspath, I know about crontab or cron, just didn't know the quotadaemon is in that? |
| 17:00.21 | crookshanks | stew: any other ideas? |
| 17:00.26 | asg | dazjorz: ls -ld /etc/cron.* |
| 17:00.33 | valdyn | !dir |
| 17:00.33 | dpkg | wrong OS, foo |
| 17:00.33 | dazjorz | but you're right, there's a /etc/cron.daily/quota |
| 17:00.38 | asg | hah |
| 17:00.40 | dazjorz | hehe |
| 17:00.40 | stew | crookshanks: and that lsmod was DEFINATELY after you ran modprobe mousedev? (and not after you ran modprobe -r mousedev)? |
| 17:00.44 | dazjorz | I know, I'm just still used to dir |
| 17:00.50 | dazjorz | sorry... |
| 17:00.51 | dazjorz | .. |
| 17:00.53 | _Atomo64_ | Hi,I'm trying to compile the bootsplash utils, using etch, but when it is compiling some stuff of freetype2 I get an error... the whole log is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2546 --I get the same error when I try to compile the bootsplash utils from bootsplash.org |
| 17:00.58 | kspath | dazjorz: Everything that reports/excutes periodically is either a standalone daemon or cron or remote-login-execute. |
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| 17:01.04 | seb- | how find out what packages installed are from contrib or non-free? |
| 17:01.08 | crookshanks | stew: pretty sure. I'll do it again to make sure |
| 17:01.22 | valdyn | seb-: apt-cache show vrms |
| 17:01.22 | dazjorz | kspath, ok, i'll remember that |
| 17:01.25 | fken | !win32codecs |
| 17:01.30 | seb- | valdyn: thanks |
| 17:01.31 | dazjorz | kspath, just didn't think about cron |
| 17:01.35 | fken | !win32codec |
| 17:01.40 | GSM|Kromonos | does someone know, why exim sent me mails, that I had deleted |
| 17:01.40 | fken | argh |
| 17:01.41 | GSM|Kromonos | ?? |
| 17:01.42 | kspath | dazjorz: welcome to unix/linux/bsd |
| 17:01.47 | stew | seb-: there isn't a way to show where a pacakge was installed from after it is installed |
| 17:01.48 | asg | valdyn: well, that's one way tot do it :) |
| 17:01.51 | fken | !w32codecs |
| 17:01.52 | dpkg | w32codecs is, like, a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 17:02.03 | asg | *to |
| 17:02.04 | dazjorz | kspath, that sounds like this is my first day on it... |
| 17:02.21 | dazjorz | kspath, I've worked with cron before, I just thought it was a running daemon, but couldn't find it, that's why I asked here |
| 17:02.32 | seb- | valdyn: heh, virtual rms |
| 17:02.37 | crookshanks | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2547 |
| 17:02.52 | asg | stew: he could iterate over installed packages and feed the to apt-cache policy couldn't he? |
| 17:03.04 | evaded | Hey guys, know you some apps to cut a part of an movie. I have record an thing from my tv card an need to cup some minutes on the begin and the end of the movie |
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| 17:03.16 | lss | Can someone help me?.. I'm trying to convert the 5 CD ISO's of suse into a DVD, but the program titled 'makesusedvd' needs Yast & rpm, both of which i do not have (using mepis). |
| 17:03.39 | asg | lss: try #mepis and #suse / #novell |
| 17:04.21 | grendal_prime | good luck on that with the yast |
| 17:04.23 | kspath | lss: This is #debian. That is not a Debian question/statement. |
| 17:04.27 | grendal_prime | ill never understand that program |
| 17:04.38 | lss | yast doesn't work on here anyway |
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| 17:04.59 | byLeal__ | hello all, i'm afraid i'm not welcome... i have made a question twice, without any answer.. maybe i don't know how to make it? |
| 17:05.09 | lostson | ok this is weird i iwlist and iwconfig all show the wireless airsnort as well but i cant dhclient to get a ip address weird |
| 17:05.09 | zulu | littlesniper no, I'm just trying to make myself consise and clear :) but it's not that simple :) |
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| 17:05.24 | zulu | true |
| 17:05.38 | grendal_prime | lss my experience with yast is that the suse people say it works fine, just doesnt doo everything they would like but there ok with that. |
| 17:06.00 | lostson | yast is a hog though really slow and you really have to dig for the good options |
| 17:06.02 | grendal_prime | the fact that the config files are unlocatable does not seem to bother them |
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| 17:06.14 | byLeal__ | tralala have said to me how to make a question, but... maybe i have to look in another place.. |
| 17:06.29 | grendal_prime | they have a really interesting idea of Open source |
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| 17:06.34 | grendal_prime | thats for sure |
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| 17:06.43 | dazjorz | uh |
| 17:06.50 | dazjorz | Now I've got this in my bashrc |
| 17:06.51 | dazjorz | alias dir='ls -ld --color=tty $@' |
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| 17:07.09 | dazjorz | why, if I do dir in a directory with files, it only displays . as a directory, instead of all files? |
| 17:07.12 | stew | asg: yeah, i guess you are right |
| 17:07.22 | asg | stew: it's ugly and slow though |
| 17:07.51 | _Atomo64_ | Hey, I'm trying to compile the bootsplash utils, using etch, but when it is compiling some stuff of freetype2 I get an error... the whole log is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2546 --I get the same error when I try to compile the bootsplash utils from bootsplash.org |
| 17:07.59 | crookshanks | asg: were you referring to me when you were talking about apt-cache policy? |
| 17:08.02 | stew | seb-: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/{print $2}' | while read a ; do apt-cache policy $a | egrep -q contrib\|non-free && echo $a ; done |
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| 17:08.05 | asg | seb-: for i in $(dpkg -la | egrep ^[hi]i | awk '{print $2}') ; do echo -en "$i --> " ; apt-cache policy $i | grep 500 ; done |
| 17:08.13 | crookshanks | asg: ah, nm =) |
| 17:08.23 | grendal_prime | hey who has there own email server based on debian? reason im asking is we are thinking about do our own email serving here and creating some sort of alowed list to allow individulas to send email. "closed system" i believe its called |
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| 17:08.27 | kspath | dazjorz: man ls |
| 17:08.29 | crookshanks | stew: I think I'm just gonna punt on this and compile my own kernel |
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| 17:08.49 | kspath | dazjorz: look at was -d does in manual for ls |
| 17:08.53 | crookshanks | stew: I've had pretty annoying problems with the kernel package that debian supplies in the past, also |
| 17:08.56 | dazjorz | kspath, somebody just gave me that |
| 17:08.57 | Bobakitoo | hi, can some one recommand me a good wireless pci card that is suported whitout propriety driver? |
| 17:09.04 | kspath | !tell dazjorz about grounding |
| 17:09.15 | dazjorz | kspath, I didn't want to get the contents of directories when I asked for them |
| 17:09.18 | dazjorz | brb |
| 17:09.18 | crookshanks | stew: I appreciate your help though |
| 17:09.21 | stew | crookshanks: i've never ever heard of the problem you are having with any kernel no matter who compiled it |
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| 17:09.26 | Wharf | Hi there |
| 17:09.32 | Wharf | How can i do chown -R |
| 17:09.36 | asg | crookshanks: did mousedev show up in /proc/modules but not lsmod? |
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| 17:09.43 | Wharf | When i try do that in the home dir |
| 17:09.47 | stew | Wharf: be more specific |
| 17:09.51 | yang | how could i specify more searching characters with grep ... like command | grep SEARCH1 SEARCH2 |
| 17:09.51 | Wharf | It says to few arguments |
| 17:09.58 | crookshanks | asg: nope, not there either |
| 17:10.00 | jafo_ | chown -R * |
| 17:10.04 | asg | crookshanks: that is odd |
| 17:10.07 | Wharf | ta |
| 17:10.10 | stew | Wharf: what command are you typing? |
| 17:10.10 | crookshanks | asg: yeah |
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| 17:10.37 | crookshanks | asg and stew: oh well, thanks for the help. i guess i'll tinker around with it more and see what i can figure out |
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| 17:10.45 | asg | crookshanks: good luck |
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| 17:10.49 | crookshanks | asg: thanks |
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| 17:11.20 | stew | yang: you mean search for either SEARCH1 or SEARCH2? |
| 17:11.27 | jair | hello guys I am trying to install debian sarge stable in a xserie server from IBM 330 |
| 17:11.32 | subreal | yang : use sort |
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| 17:11.37 | yang | Stew yes |
| 17:11.48 | jair | and everything is running good until I start the partitioner phase. :( |
| 17:11.58 | stew | yang: egrep "SEARCH1|SEARCH2" |
| 17:12.13 | jair | it is not finding any of the scsi disks that the server have |
| 17:12.47 | jair | I am not sure if I need to configure the scsi devices or install any patch in order to the kernel 2.6.x can see it. |
| 17:12.58 | jair | anyone have any suggestion? |
| 17:13.05 | byLeal__ | jair: you will need the drivers to tha scsi control... |
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| 17:13.11 | crookshanks | stew: turns out my co-worker had this exact problem last week |
| 17:13.13 | stew | jair: are you using the 2.4 or the 2.6 kernel? |
| 17:13.18 | crookshanks | stew: with a different computer |
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| 17:13.30 | crookshanks | stew: i think the 2.6.15-1-686 kernel compile must be fubar |
| 17:13.36 | stew | crookshanks: check the bts |
| 17:13.54 | stew | crookshanks: (btw i'm using it here on 4 or so machines with no such problems) |
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| 17:14.01 | byLeal__ | jair: what is your scsi controller? |
| 17:14.03 | crookshanks | stew: odd |
| 17:14.15 | crookshanks | stew: bts? |
| 17:14.19 | stew | !bts |
| 17:14.19 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 17:14.29 | crookshanks | stew: thanks. |
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| 17:15.01 | stew | crookshanks: http://bugs.debian.org/linux-source-2.6.15 ; and http://bugs.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 |
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| 17:15.19 | jair | byLeal__: one sec I will go check |
| 17:15.20 | stew | crookshanks: or just try a 2.6.16 kernel now that it has hit etch |
| 17:15.25 | jair | stew: I am using 2.6 |
| 17:15.35 | crookshanks | stew: ok, thanks again. |
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| 17:16.24 | jair | stew: and byLeal__ I know that the server is a x86 PIII and it have an utility for raid and the hard drives are scsi. |
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| 17:16.48 | jair | stew: byLeal__ but I will go check for the brand of what I see in the bios. |
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| 17:17.31 | byLeal__ | jair: you will need to know what the hardware is... so you can generate a module and load to installation... |
| 17:17.33 | Unetixs | hey, do any of you guys have experience with cross-compiling for other architectures? I'm cross-compiling a kernel for an ARM machine and even though the whole GCC operation goes through with no errors, no files are being generated. I'm getting a bunch of empty directories, but no files. Anyone know why? |
| 17:17.47 | byLeal__ | jair: Are you sure that is not SATA for example? |
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| 17:18.21 | byLeal__ | jair: There are too many SATA controllers that are not recongnized... sorry by the english. |
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| 17:18.36 | jair | byLeal__: stew here I found a pretty good document about the installation of the caldera Linux. But I want Debian .http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm&lndocid=MIGR-39006 |
| 17:18.40 | wietz0r | Is there any guide on how to do that ? |
| 17:18.43 | wietz0r | yrjan: I want to install it FROM windows, because the debian cd doesn't do wireless, perhaps using vmware of some sort, I want to install it on real partition tho |
| 17:18.57 | wietz0r | Wow |
| 17:19.07 | jair | byLeal__: it is ok they are scsi very sure |
| 17:19.15 | Unetixs | #vmware, wietzor |
| 17:19.23 | wietz0r | Thanks Unetixs |
| 17:19.24 | Unetixs | they know how to play over there ;) |
| 17:19.42 | jair | byLeal__: that document I sent have info about the same server but installing other linux version. |
| 17:19.49 | byLeal__ | jair: well, so with the vendor you can load a driver. |
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| 17:20.09 | wietz0r | Can I use another livecd to install debian ? |
| 17:20.11 | Unetixs | so, nobody knows why I don't get anything except empty directories when I cross-compile my kernel? |
| 17:20.31 | Unetixs | wietz0r: don't use a livecd, it's the wrong tool for the job. Use a net install |
| 17:20.34 | byLeal__ | jair: i have these problems, but with SATA... just make the module and it's done. |
| 17:20.48 | wietz0r | Unetixs: I treid with the new debian installer |
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| 17:20.54 | Unetixs | wietz0r: just get the first disk of the debian install off Jigdo, it's explained in www.debian.org |
| 17:20.58 | Unetixs | what's the problem? |
| 17:21.08 | wietz0r | Unetixs: It doesn't detect my wireless |
| 17:21.12 | Unetixs | what chipset? |
| 17:21.15 | wietz0r | atheros |
| 17:21.21 | Unetixs | one sec |
| 17:21.24 | wietz0r | Ubuntu does, but I dislike ubuntu |
| 17:21.28 | Kernel-Kris | is it possible to connecto to master mode AP's together |
| 17:21.29 | jair | byLeal__: I will need to check how you do that? |
| 17:22.39 | _Atomo64_ | Hey, I'm trying to compile the bootsplash utils, using etch, but when it is compiling some stuff of freetype2 I get an error... the whole log is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2546 --I get the same error when I try to compile the bootsplash utils from bootsplash.org |
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| 17:23.10 | Unetixs | wietz0r: there is no reason that chipset wouldn't work |
| 17:23.26 | byLeal__ | jair: you need a kernel that have a driver for that controller... make the module, and load in the installation process. |
| 17:23.47 | stew | _Atomo64_: error: invalid lvalue... is usually a gcc 3.4 vs gcc 4 error, what version does "gcc --version" report? |
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| 17:24.20 | Unetixs | wietz0r: were you trying to install off of a livecd, or a real installation disk? |
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| 17:24.42 | beered | what is the name of that package that updates the time trough NTP server? ntdate or sometimg? |
| 17:24.44 | wietz0r | Uberriffic: off this one http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 17:24.56 | asg | beered: ntpdate |
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| 17:25.08 | wietz0r | Unetixs: No wait |
| 17:25.10 | chron | where are .deb files usually kept? |
| 17:25.15 | beered | asg: ah, of course. :-) |
| 17:25.18 | stew | chron: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 17:25.51 | chron | so it would be like |
| 17:25.53 | Unetixs | wietz0r: try using Sarge and doing a dist-upgrade when it's done |
| 17:25.54 | _Atomo64_ | chron: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 17:25.58 | chron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.59 | chron | right? |
| 17:26.05 | jair | byLeal__: but how do I load them? |
| 17:26.11 | Unetixs | Unetixs: the testing installer might not be the best thing since sliced bread yet |
| 17:26.17 | asg | chron: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:26.23 | Unetixs | lol Unetixs: I meant wietz0r: |
| 17:26.26 | jair | byLeal__: I think I have to format the scsi disks on the utility that appear when is booting though |
| 17:26.39 | jair | byLeal__: then after that I will be able to see it, |
| 17:26.42 | jair | hopefully |
| 17:26.44 | byLeal__ | jair: In de installation process have a option to load aditional drivers... |
| 17:26.51 | chron | if you combined apt with another package manager |
| 17:26.54 | chron | what kind of problems are you looking at? |
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| 17:26.57 | byLeal__ | jair: just put the disk with it. |
| 17:27.07 | harfooz | hi all. I have a fresh etch installation, with debian-multimedia repo added. I can view .wmv and .mov locally, but the mplayer plugin buffers, and stops when I browse firefox to one of the apple trailers. |
| 17:27.10 | chron | as long as the dependencies are handled correctly by apt, there shouldn't be any problem right? |
| 17:27.11 | wietz0r | Unetixs: What do you suggest I use ? |
| 17:27.17 | harfooz | Any ideas about what I should try? |
| 17:27.18 | asg | chron: what other package manager are you talking about? |
| 17:27.21 | _Atomo64_ | stew: so what can I do? |
| 17:27.26 | harfooz | I've installed w32codecs |
| 17:27.46 | chron | like portage |
| 17:27.48 | chron | lol |
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| 17:28.07 | byLeal__ | jair: well, if the raid is by hardware, i think that the disks should be available already. |
| 17:28.09 | beered | silly question: is there a rhyme engine or something similar that works in linux? |
| 17:28.12 | chron | i'm tryin stuff out for developmental purposes |
| 17:28.26 | stew | _Atomo64_: what version of debian are you running? and what version does "gcc --version" report? |
| 17:28.32 | Unetixs | wietz0r: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 17:28.38 | _Atomo64_ | harfooz: maybe those .mov are the new version of that format... which AFAIK it is not public |
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| 17:28.44 | asg | chron: well, all apt does is download debs and attendant dependances and then drives dpkg to install them in a rational way. |
| 17:28.51 | Unetixs | wietz0r: I prefer to assemble my iso with Jigdo if I'm on windows |
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| 17:28.58 | Unetixs | wietz0r: Jigdo is good |
| 17:29.03 | chron | ok dpkg likes to put stuff where? |
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| 17:29.05 | chron | in /usr/local ? |
| 17:29.08 | wietz0r | Unetixs: K, I'll look it up |
| 17:29.10 | _Atomo64_ | stew: gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 (Debian 4.0.3-1) / Uname -a is: Linux nova 2.6.15A64 #1 Thu Mar 30 19:07:05 CST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 17:29.13 | Unetixs | k, good luck |
| 17:29.14 | harfooz | _Atomo64_, the thing is, that I've got another etch system that plays them without a hitch, and a fc5 box that plays them. |
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| 17:29.18 | duddits | hello world |
| 17:29.55 | asg | chron: dpkg -L <pkg> (shows you where each package's files are installed.) |
| 17:29.57 | harfooz | Makes me want to create a total dupe of the other etch drive ;-) |
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| 17:30.09 | asg | chron: Debian leaves /usr/local for the system administrator's own use |
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| 17:30.37 | stew | _Atomo64_: ok, i'll assume that is testing or unstable... try installing gcc-3.3, and compiling with CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3 ; the makefile better support the CC environment variable.. |
| 17:30.54 | S4NE | Hello can somebody please help me on installing vsftpd please query me ;) |
| 17:30.54 | _Atomo64_ | harfooz: why don't you try an apt-cache search quicktime? |
| 17:31.00 | chron | asg how do you show all the packages installed with dpkg? |
| 17:31.01 | harfooz | ok |
| 17:31.04 | asg | S4NE: just ask in channel |
| 17:31.06 | _Atomo64_ | stew: I'm using testing |
| 17:31.11 | S4NE | ohh hmm okay |
| 17:31.12 | S4NE | i´m sorry |
| 17:31.13 | S4NE | ^^ |
| 17:31.17 | asg | chron: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | egrep '^[hi]i' |
| 17:31.20 | stew | chron: "dpkg -l | grep ^.i" |
| 17:31.22 | S4NE | are there germans? |
| 17:31.27 | asg | !de |
| 17:31.28 | dpkg | hmm... de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net - German speaking users please go to #debian.de either here on freenode or on irc.oftc.net |
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| 17:31.36 | S4NE | kk^^ |
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| 17:32.58 | grendal_prime | spamassassin |
| 17:32.59 | _Atomo64_ | stew: how can I give to apt-get that arg? |
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| 17:33.09 | asg | !stab grendal_prime |
| 17:33.13 | chron | and dpkg -l would read /usr/lib/db/status |
| 17:33.14 | dawn | hi all |
| 17:33.15 | chron | correct/ |
| 17:33.16 | chron | ? |
| 17:33.17 | stew | _Atomo64_: what arg? |
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| 17:33.22 | jair | byLeal__: the scsi controller I have is: Adaptec aic-7892 |
| 17:33.39 | jair | byLeal__: i will try to go to the scsi utility and format that disk |
| 17:33.50 | _Atomo64_ | stew: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3 |
| 17:33.50 | chron | can you check if you have /usr/lib/db/status -- i have nothing installed with dpkg right as of now |
| 17:33.50 | asg | chron: you can find internals docs at www.debian.org/devel |
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| 17:33.55 | chron | ok good |
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| 17:34.05 | jair | byLeal__: but I am sure that I have two hard drives scsi |
| 17:34.05 | S4nD3r | hi there |
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| 17:34.11 | S4nD3r | I need some help to install my sound card |
| 17:34.17 | S4nD3r | I dont know how to begin |
| 17:34.19 | jair | byLeal__: so I think that I should see both of them right> |
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| 17:34.20 | jair | ? |
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| 17:34.27 | stew | _Atomo64_: that's not an argument to apt-get its an environment variable, so if you were compiling with "make" before, try compiling with "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3 make" |
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| 17:34.38 | harfooz | the other thing I ran into was a missing nvidia-glx from etch. What's the recommened procedure for getting 3D going since nvidia-glx isn't available in etch? |
| 17:34.39 | stew | S4nD3r: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 17:34.56 | jair | because the BIOS of the ibm only shows me the CD-rom as the master but it does not shows the hard drives |
| 17:35.05 | _Atomo64_ | stew: but what I wanted to do is use apt-get --compile source bootsplash so I could have it as the package |
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| 17:35.40 | valdyn | harfooz: get it from sid |
| 17:35.47 | harfooz | cool. |
| 17:36.08 | S4nD3r | 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 17:36.24 | wietz0r | Unetixs: I have one more question, do I only need to jigdo the first cd ? |
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| 17:36.34 | stew | _Atomo64_: then try "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3 apt-get --compile source bootsplash" i guess. But it sounds like whomever made this package made a mistake, where did you get this package? |
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| 17:36.39 | stew | S4nD3r: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 17:37.04 | stew | wietz0r: as long as you can get your machine on the network using a standard debian kernel you only need one cd to install |
| 17:37.11 | wietz0r | Ok |
| 17:37.15 | wietz0r | I'll try that then |
| 17:37.15 | fourat | anyone got problems with SATA and DEBIAN ? |
| 17:37.25 | _Atomo64_ | stew: bootsplash.de ... the .deb available there is for unstable only, so I wanted to compile the source for testing |
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| 17:37.45 | nse | this is the message i am receiving when i am trying to install xserver-xorg-video-savage: xserver-xorg-video-savage: Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 1:0.99.0-1) but it is not installable. what to do? |
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| 17:38.30 | S4nD3r | stew, look like that Is installed alsa as you told |
| 17:38.31 | _Atomo64_ | stew: if I use "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.3 apt-get --compile source bootsplash" I still get the same error |
| 17:38.35 | S4nD3r | now how to test ? |
| 17:38.39 | S4nD3r | Im running gnome |
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| 17:39.28 | stew | _Atomo64_: you'll have to get the source for the package and fix debian/rules to use the correct gcc then ; /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules ; or talk to the package creator about fixing his package |
| 17:39.47 | harfooz | yikes! a quick look at apt-get install nvidia-glx looks scary: removed packages include gdm gnome-core foomatic-gui. What's that all about?? |
| 17:40.24 | wietz0r | Its jigdoing =) |
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| 17:41.17 | duddits | hello juste for test |
| 17:41.38 | myboxen | can anyone suggest a good gui news reader for Gnome? |
| 17:41.48 | harfooz | myboxen, pan |
| 17:41.59 | myboxen | harfooz: thank you very much |
| 17:42.00 | harfooz | myboxen, apt-get install pan |
| 17:42.09 | valdyn | harfooz: try backporting nvidia-glx |
| 17:42.14 | stew | S4nD3r: did alsaconf detect your soundcard? did you unmute it? |
| 17:42.16 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 17:42.16 | dpkg | simple sid backport is probably 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 17:42.19 | _Atomo64_ | stew: ok, I'll do that. ... I've an other problem, yesterday I think it was after updating, when I restarted kdm and logged in again, I couldn't use sound anymore, normally I've aRts disabled because it s* , and I only use ALSA, but nothing works, and when I try to enable aRts again it says that /dev/dsp doesn't exists ... do you have any idea? |
| 17:42.31 | S4nD3r | I dont know how to unmute |
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| 17:42.36 | kspath | myboxen: That is assuming it will fit your definition of good AND you were asking about USENET news. |
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| 17:42.41 | S4nD3r | but alsaconf found my soundcard |
| 17:42.49 | stew | _Atomo64_: try "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" |
| 17:42.59 | stew | S4nD3r: unmute with alsamixer |
| 17:43.18 | kspath | klaasdc: Please turn that off. |
| 17:43.30 | kspath | !tell klaasdc about away |
| 17:43.42 | harfooz | thanks valdyn I'll give it a go. |
| 17:44.14 | _Atomo64_ | stew: still doesn't works |
| 17:44.16 | wietz0r | !tell wietz0r about away |
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| 17:44.36 | myboxen | kspath: yes, usenet news, I usually use slrn, but im trying to learn gui apps |
| 17:44.37 | stew | _Atomo64_: do you have udev installed? do you have a /dev/dsp file? |
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| 17:45.18 | _Atomo64_ | stew: I've udev and hal; everything was working fine yesterday... |
| 17:45.31 | klaasdc | kspath: sorry, it seems it was an auto-timeout |
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| 17:46.23 | _Atomo64_ | stew: and when I use kplayer and try to play something I get this from the messages window: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2548 |
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| 17:47.15 | Wharf | Hi |
| 17:48.09 | stew | _Atomo64_: what card do you have, what driver are you using? |
| 17:48.39 | _Atomo64_ | stew: it's a VIA ... my whole PC is VIA |
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| 17:49.42 | fourat | how can i patch my kernel if i installed it from apt (binaries) |
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| 17:50.36 | chron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.38 | mutante | fourat: there are also apt-gettable packages with the kernel-source |
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| 17:50.48 | chron | and briefly what the contents of that file status? |
| 17:50.56 | grendal_prime | nobody talkes in #spamassasin |
| 17:51.00 | grendal_prime | hhehe |
| 17:51.03 | jair | byLeal__: ok, I have to tell the installer of Linux debian that I want to load other drivers? |
| 17:51.11 | grendal_prime | its like..they are thinking really hard about spam |
| 17:51.17 | grendal_prime | but not actually talking |
| 17:51.22 | kspath | grendal_prime: Do "they" have mailing list(s)? |
| 17:51.31 | kspath | grendal_prime: Do "they" have mailing list(s) archive(s)? |
| 17:51.39 | grendal_prime | ya ive looked throught them still am doing so |
| 17:51.46 | jair | byLeal__: the server have two utiliies to configure, 1) the scsi and 2) the Raids? |
| 17:51.48 | grendal_prime | oops spoke too soon..got a hit |
| 17:52.00 | fourat | anyone experienced SATA related problems with debian ? |
| 17:52.05 | chron | can someone check what the contents of /usr/lib/db/status is? |
| 17:52.09 | chron | and if you don't have it tell me too |
| 17:52.26 | sepski | fourat, hardware issues are usualy from the kernel. if something is unsupported run a more recent kernel |
| 17:53.09 | bobdole | Why doesn't apache show a 4.4 GB file? |
| 17:53.14 | kspath | chron: Did you want to know more about that path? apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search keyword ? |
| 17:53.21 | bobdole | by default this file...just doesn't show...and I know it's chmodded 755 |
| 17:53.27 | chron | what do you mean? |
| 17:53.29 | bobdole | Do I need to change something in apache's config? |
| 17:53.32 | _Atomo64_ | stew: hey, thanks... changing gcc to gcc-3.3 did the trick :) |
| 17:53.34 | chron | i just want to know what the contents of that file is |
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| 17:53.47 | stew | _Atomo64_: what do you mean changing? |
| 17:53.53 | chron | i don't have a debian instlal yet, so i'm asking, i'm trying to dev |
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| 17:54.40 | _Atomo64_ | stew: about the bootsplash pakcage... in the Makefile I changed CC= gcc to CC= gcc-3.3 |
| 17:54.48 | dimbit | can anyone play .flv videos? specifically http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e41/damianrc/Slackline310ft.flv ? |
| 17:54.54 | _Atomo64_ | stew: but I still have the problem with the sound ... |
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| 17:55.56 | stew | _Atomo64_: are you sure the alsa driver is loaded? which is loaded? is a oss module loaded? |
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| 17:56.21 | chron | can anyone tell me what the contents of /usr/lib/db/status has? |
| 17:56.34 | chron | or if it even exists? |
| 17:56.46 | asg | chron: it doesn't exist here |
| 17:56.53 | chron | ok thanks |
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| 18:00.34 | _Atomo64_ | stew: yes, it is loaded... if you want, I can give you the part of dmesg where it says that... |
| 18:00.49 | bobdole | Anyone know an apache2 repository for my sources.list? |
| 18:01.19 | chealer9 | bobdole: any Debian repository? |
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| 18:01.51 | bobdole | chealer9, apache 2.2 |
| 18:01.56 | _Atomo64_ | bobdole: what do you want? ... the main debian rep contains apache2 and other apache2 packs |
| 18:02.06 | bobdole | The main only have apache 2.0.x |
| 18:02.09 | bobdole | I wanted 2.2.x |
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| 18:02.21 | _Atomo64_ | bobdole: testing/stable or unstable? |
| 18:02.41 | stew | bobdole: it hasn't been pacakged for debian yet |
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| 18:02.46 | kingcuritiba | hello! i'm trying to install mysql using APT-GET, but the following message is breaking the process:"package mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package" and after "package mysql has no installation candidate". what should i do to install mysql using apt-get?? |
| 18:03.28 | asg | kingcuritiba: install mysql-server |
| 18:03.42 | kingcuritiba | i'll try!! thanks!! |
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| 18:04.44 | kingcuritiba | it works ASG, thanks! |
| 18:04.48 | _Atomo64_ | bobdole: did you already try in apt-get.org ? |
| 18:04.52 | asg | kingcuritiba: you're welcome |
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| 18:06.07 | usn | good evening |
| 18:06.39 | bobdole | nevermind I installed lighttpd I just wanted to host a file that was 4.4 GB and by default apache 2.0.x doesn't allow that. apache 2.2.x does. |
| 18:06.39 | bobdole | <megaspaz> we know... we told you that |
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| 18:06.46 | Morbo | Ai Mo Nazai Mo Ai Vo |
| 18:06.49 | Morbo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.51 | Morbo | Ai Mo Nazai Mo Ai Vo |
| 18:06.56 | Morbo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.56 | Morbo | Ai Mo Nazai Mo Ai Vo |
| 18:06.56 | Morbo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.14 | asg | googoo gajoob |
| 18:07.18 | bobdole | !ops spammer |
| 18:07.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: spammer |
| 18:07.36 | pzn | Hi! I need to mount initrd from debian unstable (to check things inside initrd). trying to do this: "mount -t cramfs -o loop /boot/initrd-2.6.16-1-686 /tmp/mntpoint" I get the following error: "cramfs: wrong magic" what to do? |
| 18:07.46 | RichiH | LoRez: bleh |
| 18:08.12 | LoRez | what? |
| 18:08.40 | asg | pzn: are you sure it was made with cramfs? Try just mounting it with -o loop and see if it picks the right one, or use file(1) to find out what it is |
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| 18:10.13 | pzn | asg: file answers me: gzip, I gunzipped and ran file again, it tells "cpio archive". how to mount it? |
| 18:10.37 | asg | pzn: did you try just doing 'mount -o loop /boot/foo /tmp/bar' ? |
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| 18:12.07 | pzn | asg: the following error: you need to specify the filesystem type |
| 18:12.14 | stew | pzn: you don't mount it, its just an archive, you can unpack it and repack it |
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| 18:12.53 | maximl | For some reason, since I installed KDE, action associated with mime-type 'inode/folder' is konqueror, but I want nautilus. How do I modify this properly? |
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| 18:13.30 | pzn | stew: how to pack and unpack cpio archives? |
| 18:13.34 | valdyn | !mime |
| 18:13.34 | dpkg | well, mime is multipurpose internet mail extensions. This refers to functions used for the attachment of binary files to an e-mail message. MIME is the most common group of functions used to make this translation, and allows us to tack on graphics, sound, and executable files to our e-mail messages. |
| 18:13.37 | stew | pzn: man cpio |
| 18:14.40 | maximl | dpkg: Ok, more practical then: When I want to change the action 'Konqueror' to 'Nautilus' from within nautilus, it simply crashes for file-type 'folder'. |
| 18:14.54 | maximl | ...or hangs up or something |
| 18:15.02 | maximl | Can't remove action 'konqueror' either. |
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| 18:15.52 | RichiH | LoRez: argh! the pokening! |
| 18:16.05 | LoRez | why you blehing at me? |
| 18:16.13 | asg | RichiH: pokening == pokeman + highlander? |
| 18:16.14 | RichiH | LoRez: you were faster |
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| 18:16.35 | LoRez | sorry? |
| 18:16.40 | LoRez | ;) |
| 18:16.41 | RichiH | LoRez: the kline |
| 18:16.48 | RichiH | asg: kinda like a shoening of epic proprotions |
| 18:16.59 | RichiH | (he who gets the reference shall receive a cookie, also) |
| 18:17.00 | asg | RichiH: ah, the shoening. quite |
| 18:17.36 | asg | RichiH: cast aside the shoe, follow the Gourd |
| 18:17.40 | kingcuritiba | asg: i have successfuly instaled mysql using "apt-get install mysql-server". But appears that was installed mysql 4! It's possible to install mysql-server 5, using apt-get? |
| 18:17.44 | RichiH | pft |
| 18:17.54 | valdyn | maximl: check the bts if you haven't, report a bug if this isnt reported |
| 18:17.55 | asg | kingcuritiba: it depends on which version of Debian you are running |
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| 18:18.11 | asg | kingcuritiba: if you are running sarge, you'll have to use backports (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 18:18.15 | maximl | valdyn: ok, thx |
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| 18:18.25 | kingcuritiba | how can i discover which version am i using? |
| 18:18.33 | asg | RichiH: sounds like a German reference but I don't know it |
| 18:18.37 | asg | kingcuritiba: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:18.41 | RichiH | asg: nope, more ukish |
| 18:18.49 | RichiH | beaverandsteve.com |
| 18:18.53 | RichiH | good comic, that |
| 18:18.57 | asg | RichiH: ah. I've been too long out of the UK |
| 18:19.02 | valdyn | maximl: maybe you can find those file assiciations stored in gconf-editor |
| 18:19.17 | RichiH | asg: you missed the show fairy, then |
| 18:19.21 | jair | guys I am trying to find an adaptec driver for the scsi disks I am using in a IBM xseries server. |
| 18:19.21 | kingcuritiba | asg: i'm using DEBIAN 3.1 |
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| 18:19.35 | maximl | valdyn: tried, it didn't afaik. |
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| 18:19.42 | asg | kingcuritiba: then /msg dpkg backports. mysql 5.0 isn't available on stable |
| 18:19.52 | jair | I only found the drivers for linux Suse, Redhat, Union Linux etc but not for Debian :( |
| 18:19.55 | asg | RichiH: yeah :( |
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| 18:20.21 | fish1209 | asg what part of uk you from? |
| 18:20.21 | jair | it is a way that I can install a source if I am just in the installation process |
| 18:20.23 | jair | ? |
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| 18:20.33 | asg | fish1209: Huddersfield originally |
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| 18:20.53 | fish1209 | asg from wales here but been living in states for pat 5 years |
| 18:20.56 | jair | and also it is a way I can tell debian to ask me for that driver? using the code "expert26" maybe? |
| 18:21.04 | fish1209 | past* |
| 18:21.10 | asg | fish1209: I've been her since '83 |
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| 18:21.14 | asg | *here |
| 18:21.20 | jair | I am trying to install debian in a xserver 330 IBM |
| 18:21.22 | fish1209 | asg wow lng time |
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| 18:21.27 | asg | fish1209: yeah |
| 18:21.32 | xpato | hi |
| 18:21.38 | jair | anyone can provide me some sugestions? |
| 18:21.47 | valdyn | jair: google |
| 18:21.57 | xpato | how can i install the modules, when making the kernel, in another dir, no /lib/modules |
| 18:21.59 | maximl | asg: how is it possible when debian was started back in the 90's, as well as linux? |
| 18:22.22 | asg | maximl: I was born a little after the begining of Unix time and long before Linux time |
| 18:22.24 | bobdole | If I plug a dvdrw external drive into my laptop via usb2 ... will it work out of the box? |
| 18:22.25 | jair | valdyn: I am thanks |
| 18:22.26 | bobdole | probably right? |
| 18:22.54 | kingcuritiba | asg: how can i use this command? "/msg dpkg backports." returns: command not found |
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| 18:22.59 | valdyn | bobdole: depends on a few things |
| 18:23.01 | asg | kingcuritiba: type it in your irc client |
| 18:23.04 | valdyn | !usb storage |
| 18:23.04 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 18:23.06 | asg | kingcuritiba: our bot will give you instructions |
| 18:23.17 | kspath | maximl: Unix System(III and V) and BSDs have been around for a while. |
| 18:23.18 | bobdole | valdyn, on what? |
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| 18:23.57 | kspath | !tell kingcuritiba about backports |
| 18:23.58 | asg | maximl: I was talking about being in .us, not in #debian. I've been in #debian since 2002 or so |
| 18:24.01 | valdyn | bobdole: on you haveing installed a package that handles newly plugged in usb devices, on what you want to do with that drive, on your /etc/fstab |
| 18:24.03 | kspath | !tell kingcuritiba about dpkg |
| 18:24.12 | maximl | asg: k, misunderstood |
| 18:24.26 | valdyn | bobdole: why don't you just plug it in, watch dmesg, and go from there |
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| 18:25.51 | Kernel-Kris | is it possible to connect 2 master mode wirless cards together............ |
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| 18:26.37 | valdyn | !tell Kernel-Kris -about ask |
| 18:27.39 | Kickstart | Any Apache/mod_gzip experts here today? I'm getting 'mod_gzip: DECLINED:UNHANDLED_REDIR' trying to use mod_gzip with a Rails application. The #rubyonrails people don't seem to have any ideas about this. |
| 18:28.54 | asg | Kickstart: have you consulted the #apache people also? |
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| 18:29.22 | Kickstart | asg: That would make too much sense :) I'll go do that now. |
| 18:29.27 | pzn | stew: thanks. "man cpio" has all I needed :-) |
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| 18:30.31 | lss | does anyone know a public list of useable smtp servers? |
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| 18:30.56 | subreal | most smtp know days required user and passwd |
| 18:31.04 | asg | lss: open mail relays are usually blacklisted by anti-spammer groups and hence are not useful |
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| 18:31.25 | asg | lss: however, you can run your own if you wish and your Debian installation comes with one (exim4) by default |
| 18:31.33 | lss | ok.. I'm trying to setup thunderbird, but I need an amtp server. |
| 18:31.34 | DarkJesus | Can someone help me with the installation of madwifi drivers for my wifi card? |
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| 18:31.57 | asg | DarkJesus: try /msg dpkg madwifi |
| 18:31.58 | kspath | Kickstart: What did you mean by "connect" ? Are you aware that one "." is either a directory or a period? Are you aware that ".." is a parent directory? Are you aware that "..." is "and so on"? What was the purpose behind the large number of "." (dots) you used? |
| 18:32.10 | kspath | Kickstart: sorry wrong nick |
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| 18:32.36 | kspath | Kernel-Kris: What did you mean by "connect" ? Are you aware that one "." is either a directory or a period? Are you aware that ".." is a parent directory? Are you aware that "..." is "and so on"? What was the purpose behind the large number of "." (dots) you used? |
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| 18:33.45 | kspath | lss: There are no valid/legitimate open relays anymore. |
| 18:33.52 | lss | oh ok |
| 18:34.06 | kspath | lss: Use your service providers SMTP servers. |
| 18:34.19 | lss | yeah, my mate just said to me try and take a guess at the name |
| 18:34.45 | kspath | lss: Your "mate" did not think to try contacting your service provider or your providers website? |
| 18:35.04 | lss | kspath, yeah, he suggested that too |
| 18:35.10 | lss | but i want to send an email now |
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| 18:35.24 | kspath | lss: You should get started now in that case. |
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| 18:36.01 | asg | lss: or telnet to the MX host for the domain you are going to send mail to and manually talk SMTP at it (/msg dpkg mail tutorial) |
| 18:36.15 | lss | asg, ok thanks |
| 18:36.20 | DarkJesus | I get errors when I do what dpkg says |
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| 18:37.14 | Ronin | DarkJesus: what errors? |
| 18:37.17 | kspath | lss: Do you know what an MX record is? |
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| 18:37.36 | lss | kspath, my mate just found out for me smtp1.gxn.net |
| 18:37.42 | dazjorz | Lol |
| 18:37.43 | dazjorz | kspath |
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| 18:37.43 | raseac | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of resiak) |
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| 18:38.18 | SNow | hi everybody, I have made the kernel in debian way, but now I have recently seen that I dont have CIFS FS, and what I did, is 'make menuconfig' then make modules and make modules_install, but as I said, the kernel was compiled in debian way, and insmod didn't work, so how should I implement the CIFS module without recompiling the kernel? |
| 18:38.22 | dazjorz | he's probably better off in #dns then |
| 18:38.31 | kspath | lss: dig and host and nslookup and whois are useful commands to find out about. Consider learning what telnet and mtr and traceroute and ping are as well. They will serve many useful needs. |
| 18:38.43 | asg | SNow: you can't really. Just recompile. |
| 18:39.04 | lss | kspath, yeah, i used ping and stuff on dos on windows |
| 18:39.06 | DarkJesus | To use debian sid, I just change "stable" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "unstable", right? |
| 18:39.17 | asg | DarkJesus: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 18:39.18 | stew | DarkJesus: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 18:39.45 | SNow | asg and reboot? |
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| 18:40.05 | asg | SNow: yes, running a new kernel currently requires a reboot |
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| 18:40.30 | SNow | that's very bad! |
| 18:40.36 | kingcuritiba | if i want to install mysql 5, it just change stable to unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 18:40.37 | lss | this is odd, I go to mozilla's site (downloaded the new thunderbird) and it tells me only 'go to director in shell, then run 'thunderbird' but it doesn't work. |
| 18:40.37 | tralala | DarkJesus: try backports first |
| 18:40.38 | asg | SNow: why? |
| 18:40.44 | SNow | because If I compile vanilla kernel |
| 18:40.47 | SNow | and want to install one module |
| 18:40.54 | SNow | I can do just make modules and make modules_install |
| 18:41.04 | SNow | and this debian way actually sux, while I have to recompile everything |
| 18:41.06 | SNow | and rbeoot and so on |
| 18:41.08 | daqqal | hello there, ho are things then |
| 18:41.20 | kspath | lss: You would need to ask "mozilla's site" about that in that case. |
| 18:41.20 | asg | SNow: oh, you can try it but depending on how invasive the module is, it might require kernel internals to change and require a reboot. |
| 18:41.27 | daqqal | i'm on testing and it seems that my growisofs has stopped writing, anyone else have an issue? |
| 18:41.38 | lss | kspath, ok thanks |
| 18:41.40 | stew | daqqal: /msg dpkg bts |
| 18:41.44 | Wonko | Hello! I'm running Debian Etch on a Gigabyte GA-K8N51PVMT-9 with GeForce 6150. Does anyone know if it is possible to run X with anything else than vesa? I don't want to install the proprietary nvidia drivers. |
| 18:41.49 | kdean06 | I just added the gnome disk mounter applet to my top panel, and as soon as I did, it prompted a dialogue, which then freezes and forces a restart. It reloads and then does the same thing, rendering my GNOME panel uesless. How can I remove the disk mounter app from loading when my menu does? |
| 18:42.05 | abrotman | Wonko: you can try 'nv' .. check x.org to see if it works |
| 18:42.15 | stew | SNow: if you are installing a kernel which is a recompile of the currently running kenrel, and "uname -r" is going to match on both kernels, you can likely get away without rebooting. |
| 18:42.19 | bobdole | What is the open source alternative to ghost? |
| 18:42.23 | bobdole | norton ghost |
| 18:42.31 | asg | bobdole: g4u |
| 18:42.39 | SNow | we are talking about cifs here |
| 18:42.44 | valdyn | SNow: uh that is nonsense, that works only in special cases, and it can be done just the same on a kernel taht was installed via make-kpkg |
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| 18:43.25 | SNow | how valdyn? :) |
| 18:43.30 | SNow | I have did, but it said nothing ;/ |
| 18:43.38 | SNow | and maybe someone of you are samba advanced users |
| 18:43.39 | grendal_prime | awwwww hell i say we let the guy do the bit aobut unstable..i kinda want to see what will happen |
| 18:43.42 | SNow | while #samba crew |
| 18:43.51 | SNow | doesn't know what are they talking |
| 18:44.07 | lostson | to use network sharing in gnome do i use nfs or samba? |
| 18:44.11 | centrx | What is the status of the Radeon bugs in X.Org ? |
| 18:44.13 | SNow | the main problem why I am recompiling the kernel that samba staff said that cifs is better |
| 18:44.28 | stew | centrx: /msg dpkg bts |
| 18:44.30 | SNow | you see, when I mount with smbfs |
| 18:44.32 | kspath | lostson: What does #gnome say? |
| 18:44.43 | SNow | a 100% shared directory it says that the directory is not shared |
| 18:44.47 | SNow | maybe some of you had this problem? |
| 18:44.48 | lostson | kspath: dont know im scared of that channel |
| 18:44.57 | valdyn | SNow: cifs is better, smbfs is legacy cruft |
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| 18:45.07 | abrotman | lostson: that's up to you .. you can use either i'm sure |
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| 18:45.20 | kspath | lostson: #gnome-debian less scary? |
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| 18:45.43 | SNow | ok |
| 18:45.47 | lostson | #gnome-debian |
| 18:45.50 | lostson | whops |
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| 18:46.45 | seb- | abrotman: are sid backports of *drivers* just like userspace packages? |
| 18:46.54 | abrotman | drivers? |
| 18:46.59 | Wonko | abrotman: I have tried nv by replacing vesa with nv in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and that doesn't work. Do I have to do something more? |
| 18:47.01 | SNow | sniegas:~# mount -t smbfs -r -o guest //84.240.23.4/Seip /second/users/darius |
| 18:47.01 | SNow | 23285: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name) |
| 18:47.02 | SNow | SMB connection failed |
| 18:47.02 | seb- | abrotman: i wanna try newer wifi module/driver |
| 18:47.05 | SNow | as well as you see :) |
| 18:47.13 | abrotman | Wonko: looking the error log might help you see why |
| 18:47.15 | lostson | no one in #gnome-debian but me |
| 18:47.17 | lostson | lol |
| 18:47.19 | abrotman | seb-: you mean ipw2200 ? |
| 18:47.22 | abrotman | lostson: on irc.gnome.org |
| 18:47.25 | valdyn | seb-: drivers usually depend only on a specific kernel version, so they're circumstantially easier to deal with |
| 18:47.40 | kspath | lostson: If you do not support the channel and other resources how will they survive? |
| 18:47.44 | lostson | abrotman: oh |
| 18:47.49 | valdyn | seb-: X display drivers being an exception to that rule though |
| 18:48.12 | seb- | valdyn: so can i download the sid package for newer driver? |
| 18:48.12 | SNow | noone had htis kind of problem? |
| 18:48.15 | seb- | abrotman: not sure |
| 18:48.25 | valdyn | seb-: depends on that driver |
| 18:48.28 | abrotman | you're not sure what driver you use for wifi .. but you're going to backport it ? |
| 18:48.32 | Wonko | abrotman: (EE) No devices detected. |
| 18:48.35 | valdyn | seb-: i named X already, wireless may be problematic too |
| 18:48.37 | abrotman | Wonko: look farther up |
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| 18:48.54 | seb- | abrotman: hostap |
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| 18:49.14 | D13GU___ | hi all! how to install x windows system and gnome, kde and fluxbox |
| 18:49.22 | _Atomo64_ | could somebody please help me with my sound card problem? ... I'm going to miss a debconf talk I want.... |
| 18:49.24 | resiak | !tell D13GU___ -about install x |
| 18:49.25 | resiak | !tell D13GU___ -about install gnome |
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| 18:49.27 | resiak | !tell D13GU___ -about install kde |
| 18:49.36 | resiak | D13GU___: apt-get install fluxbox |
| 18:49.36 | asg | D13GU___: and apt-get install fluxbox |
| 18:49.46 | asg | resiak: ^5 |
| 18:49.50 | abrotman | apt-get install x-window-system gnome kde fluxbox |
| 18:49.52 | abrotman | have a nice day :) |
| 18:49.53 | D13GU___ | apt-get install x-window-system-core :) |
| 18:49.53 | Kernel-Kris | im running sarge on two AP's bot in master mode and i want one to associace to the other while still being in master mode. Is that possible |
| 18:49.58 | asg | abrotman: HTH, HAND |
| 18:49.59 | resiak | :beer asg |
| 18:50.05 | shadfc | ive added the dotdeb source for stable, but i want to get apache and php from the official debian mirrors... how do i set that up in apt? |
| 18:50.10 | Wonko | abrotman: I did a 'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep 6150' and didn't found anything. Doesn't look good... |
| 18:50.16 | valdyn | !tell Kernel-Kris -about ask |
| 18:50.16 | abrotman | raseac: hi |
| 18:50.17 | raseac | niihau |
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| 18:50.21 | valdyn | Kernel-Kris: repeat wont help |
| 18:50.27 | abrotman | Wonko: paste the whole log here .. |
| 18:50.32 | abrotman | Wonko: wait .. NOT HERE |
| 18:50.34 | kingcuritiba | in APT-GET, is there a command to show only the version of the application that will be used? |
| 18:50.36 | D13GU___ | in x-window-system has Xfree or Xorg |
| 18:50.38 | abrotman | Wonko: paste it somewhere :) |
| 18:50.41 | kingcuritiba | before install... |
| 18:50.43 | seb- | valdyn: still not sure if i can backport hostap driver/module safely? i need your approval! |
| 18:50.46 | asg | D13GU___: it depends on what Debian version you are running |
| 18:50.52 | valdyn | Kernel-Kris: you can do that only with very few wlan chipsets |
| 18:50.54 | D13GU___ | stable asg |
| 18:50.54 | abrotman | :rf |
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| 18:51.09 | valdyn | seb-: no idea, try it, you may have to backports the userspace tool(s) too |
| 18:51.28 | seb- | valdyn: ok, thx |
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| 18:52.36 | valdyn | Kernel-Kris: rt2x00 in a few months being one, i don't know about others |
| 18:52.42 | D13GU___ | asg stable, sarg |
| 18:52.48 | Kernel-Kris | valdyn: u was told to be more descriptive, so i was elaberating, now i have prism 2.5 chipsets, and need to have them associate with eachother in order to bridge both wlan interfaces with the wired |
| 18:52.50 | Wonko | abrotman: Could I send the log file to you? |
| 18:52.52 | asg | D13GU___: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 18:52.58 | abrotman | !paste |
| 18:52.58 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 18:53.53 | D13GU___ | backports hum |
| 18:53.55 | kspath | !tell D13GU___ about grounding |
| 18:54.18 | kspath | !tell D13GU___ about backports |
| 18:54.26 | fatfreddie | just updated etch. xserver runs no more. Error:"FreeFontPath ...". any idea? updating x.org is like going to hell. |
| 18:54.58 | D13GU___ | the xorg-x11 is a unstable package? |
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| 18:55.17 | fatfreddie | dunno |
| 18:55.31 | fatfreddie | just upgraded from within testing |
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| 18:55.36 | stew | fatfreddie: what version of x11-common do you have installed? |
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| 18:55.56 | fatfreddie | stew: one moment, please |
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| 18:56.03 | swansong | :gf |
| 18:56.03 | fishsong | kejagr and jafo_ and Locke0 and StereoSkit and terbo and JoshH and equivalent and palandir and usn and debhelper and ix and DarkJesus and cyc and Ryushin and existx and emag and Fox and beardy and Pazzo and wireddd and zam-aliphe_ and Mash and [Cadet] and tolsen and xaxes|free and themoleste and xorian` and Ferret and zumbi and tommy and lunaphyte and CrazyEddy and roue and MrSco |
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| 18:56.17 | Maakuth | wtf |
| 18:56.24 | asg | Maakuth: a group fluffling |
| 18:56.27 | kspath | fishsong: Did you need assistance with exiting #debian? |
| 18:56.27 | fishsong | kspath: *shrug* |
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| 18:56.38 | SigmaX | Does anyone know a way to send a message to OpenOffice to save the open document externally? Like one might tell Kword to quite through dcop -- is there an alternative? |
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| 18:57.04 | stew | !lart resiak |
| 18:57.05 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@host86-139-53-181.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 18:57.06 | fatfreddie | stew: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 |
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| 18:57.24 | D13GU___ | ok... i set "testing" in sources.list, apt-get update and for install complete x window system with xorg? apt-get install xorg-x11 kde ?: |
| 18:57.28 | Wonko | abrotman: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2549 |
| 18:57.50 | asg | D13GU___: why didn't you just use backports to get xorg on sarge? |
| 18:57.50 | kspath | !tell D13GU___ about testing |
| 18:57.55 | stew | D13GU___: don't mix non-stable packages into your stable install |
| 18:57.56 | tolsen | how annoying |
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| 18:58.28 | D13GU___ | ao ok |
| 18:58.38 | stew | D13GU___: is there a reason you want xorg instead of xfree? |
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| 18:59.05 | D13GU___ | compatibles |
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| 18:59.17 | stew | D13GU___: huh? |
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| 18:59.45 | D13GU___ | stew i has problems with xfree, after install xorg, all ok.... |
| 19:00.07 | fatfreddie | stew: maybe i have to wait for version 7.0 of x11-common? |
| 19:00.13 | stew | D13GU___: if you must use xorg on stable use a backport, don't install it from testing, /msg dpkg backports |
| 19:00.23 | stew | fatfreddie: what exactly is the error message you get? |
| 19:00.40 | D13GU___ | ok |
| 19:00.40 | thingfish | asg: it looks like backports' xorg wants to remove gnome, for one - at least on my box. |
| 19:00.41 | stew | fatfreddie: have you tried dpkg-recnofigure xserver-xorg? |
| 19:00.44 | kspath | D13GU___: Please listen to stew. It is good advice. |
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| 19:01.04 | asg | thingfish: probably a good thing. |
| 19:01.08 | thingfish | hehe yeah |
| 19:01.10 | kspath | hehehe |
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| 19:01.58 | chron | anyone know where the source for apt is? |
| 19:02.13 | stew | chron: apt-get source apt |
| 19:02.15 | chron | all apt does is fetch and keep a list, correct? |
| 19:02.15 | fatfreddie | stew: its all about "font renderer... already registered priority 0". the last message is "FPE ... refcount is 2, should be 1, fixing". |
| 19:02.22 | chron | no i don't have debian installed |
| 19:02.36 | fatfreddie | stew: yep, already tried reconfigure |
| 19:02.50 | stew | chron: http://packages.debian.org/src:apt |
| 19:02.51 | kingcuritiba | in APT-GET, is there a command to show only the version of the application that will be used? |
| 19:02.55 | jair | anyone here have had the experience of install debian 3.1 on a server IBM xseries? 330? |
| 19:03.01 | stew | kingcuritiba: apt-cache policy packagename |
| 19:03.02 | asg | kingcuritiba: apt-cache policy <foo> |
| 19:03.10 | vin` | abrotman: pong? |
| 19:03.20 | asg | abrotman: | . |
| 19:03.34 | stew | fatfreddie: checked the bts? |
| 19:03.35 | exist | hi. i have a debian sarge gateway which has two internet connection interface. I set some iproute rules to use load balancing with two internet isp. I did it. But at the gateway there is also pptpd server. And when a pptp client comes kernel add a route command to main route table. And then my iproute policies become useless. Please help me about it |
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| 19:03.48 | D13GU___ | for to set backport sorce preference, i use apt-get -t sarge-backports package:[ |
| 19:03.49 | jair | I am looking and looking and I can not figure it out, how to tell Debian to get the modules or load them through a floppy but I can't find any option that say that?? |
| 19:03.50 | kingcuritiba | thanks! |
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| 19:04.20 | fatfreddie | stew: sorry, what is bts? |
| 19:04.26 | stew | D13GU___: http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 19:04.29 | stew | fatfreddie: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 19:04.35 | asg | jair: for particularly silly hardware, I use bootcd to create a livecd from a custom kernel and debootstrapped chroot. |
| 19:04.41 | D13GU___ | stew ok |
| 19:04.45 | stew | fatfreddie: if you don't find anything in the bts, put your xorg.conf and the Xorg.0.log into a pastebin |
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| 19:04.56 | asg | jair: I have to do that with IBM HS20s since the sarge kernel doesn't support the tg3 nics on those. |
| 19:05.04 | D13GU___ | stew ok, configured.. how to install xorg and gnome? |
| 19:05.39 | stew | D13GU___: for xorg, the package you want is x-window-system-core, for gnome /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 19:05.57 | D13GU___ | ok |
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| 19:06.21 | fatfreddie | stew: thank you |
| 19:06.26 | D13GU___ | gnome-desktop-environment |
| 19:06.39 | kingcuritiba | actually, was installed mysql 4! is it possible to install mysql 5, even been unstable? |
| 19:06.48 | kingcuritiba | how can i edit source.list? |
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| 19:07.02 | asg | kingcuritiba: did you check backports? |
| 19:07.04 | Gathond | kingcuritiba: using an editor? :) |
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| 19:07.27 | kspath | kingcuritiba: vim works for edit files such as source.list but you will want to have some idea what you are doing. |
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| 19:07.40 | kspath | s/edit/editing/ |
| 19:07.50 | kingcuritiba | kspath: dont worry, i'm using a test machine! ;) |
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| 19:08.13 | kingcuritiba | asg: i checked at apg-get.org, and do not have nothing about mysql-server 5 |
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| 19:08.21 | asg | kingcuritiba: not apt-get.org, backports.org |
| 19:08.30 | asg | kingcuritiba: as indicated by '/msg dpkg backports' |
| 19:08.33 | kspath | !tell kingcuritiba about backports |
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| 19:09.02 | yalu | can anyone enlighten me about what 802.11-DS is? |
| 19:09.06 | stew | actually /msg dpkg backports indicates both |
| 19:09.06 | exist | hi. i have a debian sarge gateway which has two internet connection interface. I set some iproute rules to use load balancing with two internet isp. I did it. But at the gateway there is also pptpd server. And when a pptp client comes kernel add a route command to main route table. And then my iproute policies become useless. Please help me about it |
| 19:09.19 | asg | stew: it indicates backports.org first though |
| 19:09.24 | stew | yes |
| 19:09.27 | Wonko | abrotman: Did you find something wrong? Or anybody else? |
| 19:09.30 | kspath | yalu: It is something that search engines can be great at assisting you with. |
| 19:09.33 | DarkJesus | How do I use a wep key? |
| 19:09.41 | asg | DarkJesus: man 7 wireless |
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| 19:10.13 | DarkJesus | No entry |
| 19:10.24 | stew | DarkJesus: install wireless-tools |
| 19:10.26 | asg | DarkJesus: apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 19:10.32 | DarkJesus | OK, cool |
| 19:10.33 | abrotman | Wonko: sorry .. real work was calling :) .. let me look |
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| 19:10.35 | stew | exist: you need to not pass pppd the defaultroute option |
| 19:10.51 | abrotman | Wonko: did you enter a busID when it asked you to ? |
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| 19:11.05 | exist | stew i disabled it |
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| 19:11.29 | exist | as a ppp interface is up. kernel add a route |
| 19:11.30 | abrotman | vin`: i was going to ask you about your 915 issue .. shogunx had a friend with a simliar issue |
| 19:11.46 | Wonko | abrotman: No problem. Uhh? Where would that be? |
| 19:11.56 | stew | exist: the kernel wouldn't do that unless the pppd asked it to. how did you disable it? |
| 19:12.03 | vin` | abrotman: I don't have any issues with 915, works fine. |
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| 19:12.09 | abrotman | Wonko: no .. you're not supposed to |
| 19:12.13 | abrotman | vin`: but it was broken ? |
| 19:12.17 | exist | i remove the defaultroute option from pptp.config |
| 19:12.20 | abrotman | vin`: the DRI part |
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| 19:12.46 | DarkJesus | What do I do with wireless-tools once I've downloaded them? |
| 19:12.48 | elephantMan | Hi all |
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| 19:12.53 | stew | DarkJesus: man 7 wireless |
| 19:12.56 | Wonko | abrotman: No, I have not enter a busID deliberately |
| 19:13.11 | exist | anyway without this route.pptp client can connect to network from the gateway? |
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| 19:13.15 | vin` | abrotman: with the first version of xorg in unstable, it's been ok ever since. |
| 19:13.20 | exist | this is an another problem |
| 19:13.26 | elephantMan | I do this command to remove temp files created by mac os x on my debian folders : 'find -name *._* | xargs rm' |
| 19:13.34 | stew | exist: have you double checked the command line that pppd is being executed with? |
| 19:13.34 | vin` | abrotman: xorg7 I meant. |
| 19:13.41 | elephantMan | But this command doesn't work when pathes contains spaces |
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| 19:13.50 | stew | exist: are you sure you have the correct config file? is it nowhere in /etc/ppp/providers? |
| 19:13.54 | elephantMan | How must i modify it to make it work ? |
| 19:14.09 | myboxen | what was the command to make a dev in /dev? mknod? |
| 19:14.11 | stew | elephantMan: find -name *._* -print0 | xargs -0 rm |
| 19:14.32 | elephantMan | stew, cool super thanx |
| 19:14.35 | stew | myboxen: what /dev are you trying to create? do you have the udev package installed? |
| 19:14.42 | vin` | abrotman: oh yeah, it's been ok after this fix. http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7#head-9e00d9e3f879cf8faa87c6214385a064cd623154 |
| 19:14.49 | myboxen | stew:A im trying to create /dev/vmnet1 |
| 19:14.54 | myboxen | for vmware |
| 19:15.13 | myboxen | stew: vmware install created vmnet0, vmnet2, and vmnet8 but not the others. |
| 19:15.15 | exist | stew |
| 19:15.18 | exist | hi. i have a debian sarge gateway which has two internet connection interface. I set some iproute rules to use load balancing with two internet isp. I did it. But at the gateway there is also pptpd server. And when a pptp client comes kernel add a route command to main route table. And then my iproute policies become useless. Please help me about it |
| 19:15.21 | exist | ops sorry |
| 19:15.31 | exist | # Debian: do not replace the default route |
| 19:15.32 | exist | nodefaultroute |
| 19:15.41 | row | how can I add more loop devices? |
| 19:15.44 | exist | ./etc/ppp/pptp.options file |
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| 19:17.10 | myboxen | stew: yes udev is installed |
| 19:17.20 | myboxen | 0.091-2 |
| 19:17.49 | stew | myboxen: then you shouldn't be running mknod directly but configuring /etc/udev to create those /dev entries for you. if you mknod, it will be gone the next time your reboot (since your /dev/ is managed by udev, its not static) |
| 19:17.55 | kingcuritiba | which command is it used to edit a file? and to save, it's Q and S? |
| 19:18.07 | asg | kingcuritiba: it depends on which editor you are using |
| 19:18.27 | myboxen | stew: aye, thank you. Learn something new, and valueable everytime I talk to you :) |
| 19:18.28 | kingcuritiba | debian 3.1! i didn't know, i'm learning debian today =) |
| 19:18.31 | stew | kingcuritiba: /usr/bin/editor is used by default, and how to quit and save depends on which alternative you have configured with "update-alternatives --config editor" |
| 19:18.56 | stew | myboxen: google for udev and vmnet, you will likely find a solution |
| 19:19.04 | myboxen | gracias |
| 19:19.06 | kingcuritiba | ./usr/bin/editor <file path to edit>, right? |
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| 19:19.29 | asg | kingcuritiba: /usr/bin/editor /path/to/file |
| 19:19.46 | jair | asg: can we talk little bit more about this? |
| 19:20.03 | kingcuritiba | thanks, i'll try it now! |
| 19:20.07 | asg | jair: I have to leave here in a bit but we can for the time I'm here |
| 19:20.18 | jair | asg: I am trying to boot from thekernel 2.6.8-3-686 |
| 19:20.33 | jair | asg: ok I really appreciate that |
| 19:20.35 | jair | ok |
| 19:20.35 | asg | jair: the standard sarge installer? |
| 19:20.48 | stew | kingcuritiba: i recommend you "apt-get install nano" and "update-alternatives --config editor" and select "nano" unless you are familiar with vi |
| 19:21.08 | asg | stew: isn't nano the default anyway? |
| 19:21.13 | jair | asg: it is a way I can tell the debian installer to accept a driver from a .tar or something like that? or it needs to be a .deb? |
| 19:21.15 | vin` | nvi iirc |
| 19:21.26 | asg | hmmm, thought they changed it |
| 19:21.29 | stew | asg: i'm not sure actually |
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| 19:21.32 | stew | they might have |
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| 19:21.45 | kspath | anyone running metoo? |
| 19:21.59 | vin` | kingcuritiba: what does ls -l /etc/alternatives/editor say? |
| 19:22.04 | stew | tell kspath about anyone |
| 19:22.06 | jair | asg: I am looking and looking for a driver to load it but i could not find any option that allows me to do that. |
| 19:22.06 | asg | jair: iirc, the driver is just a kernel module on a floppy that uses some standard directory structure. Not a tar or deb, just a pre-compiled module. |
| 19:22.15 | kspath | stew: hehehe |
| 19:22.16 | asg | jair: you might have to do expert26 |
| 19:22.35 | jair | I did that one and i saw the adaptec driver the same model I have |
| 19:22.48 | abrotman | vin`: yeah .. i found that |
| 19:22.54 | asg | jair: but it didn't work? |
| 19:23.01 | abrotman | Wonko: seems to think your card is at a certain busid |
| 19:23.07 | efaistos | someone under xorg and debian ? |
| 19:23.14 | asg | efaistos: many of us are, why? |
| 19:23.17 | efaistos | s/debian/debian/testing |
| 19:23.19 | Ronin | efaistos: many are im sure |
| 19:23.24 | jair | asg: but at the end after the modules were loaded and everything was running perfect I got a message "No drivers were detectec" make sure to have the driver conected. |
| 19:23.41 | efaistos | I cant start X ... I just switched to xserver-xorg i was still using xfree |
| 19:23.48 | asg | jair: after you rebooted when the install was finished? |
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| 19:24.04 | jair | asg: not that was during the installation |
| 19:24.05 | vin` | efaistos: checked for errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 19:24.11 | myboxen | stew: this is charming. |
| 19:24.24 | Wonko | abrotman: Do you know how I could fix that? |
| 19:24.24 | myboxen | stew: * Remove udev support from vmnet. License of API does not allow us to use it. |
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| 19:24.45 | abrotman | !drxx Wonko |
| 19:24.45 | dpkg | Wonko: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:24.50 | abrotman | Wonko: enter no busid or RAM |
| 19:24.52 | efaistos | vin`: just couldnt init font path element |
| 19:24.53 | jair | asg: the module is there and during the expert26 i lod it and I leave it checked, but the debian installer still can't find the raid controller drive. |
| 19:24.57 | abrotman | Wonko: not 0 .. leave them blank |
| 19:24.58 | stew | myboxen: sweet |
| 19:24.59 | asg | jair: another thing you might try is manually running 'modprobe <foo>' from a console (ALT+F2) once the installer has passed the automatic device discovery bit. I've had to do that with megaraid modules that weren't autodetected on some Dell servers. |
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| 19:25.09 | stew | myboxen: remove udev, and mknod then |
| 19:25.15 | kspath | Wonko: null nada nothing black |
| 19:25.28 | myboxen | stew: is it better to have udev? |
| 19:25.28 | kspath | Wonko: blank |
| 19:25.30 | jair | asg: foo is what? |
| 19:25.35 | efaistos | abrotman: the problem is when i start X i cant come back in console and i must reboot manually |
| 19:25.38 | asg | jair: the first metasyntactic variable |
| 19:25.43 | asg | jair: just a generic value |
| 19:25.47 | vin` | efaistos: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7#head-1df4308d5aaebc16162d823c8e3821eb05abc89f maybe |
| 19:25.55 | jair | asg: I am the same more confuse/? |
| 19:26.02 | jair | asg: what do you mean |
| 19:26.07 | myboxen | stew: im sure I have more than just vmware using udev. I could just add a script that runs on boot ot add the devices too on reboot, yesA? |
| 19:26.12 | asg | jair: if the module was named 'megaraid', you'd type 'modprobe megaraid'. Just substitute your module name for foo |
| 19:26.17 | efaistos | vin`: without X it's a little bit hard to copy/paste the url |
| 19:26.20 | jair | ohh ok I see |
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| 19:26.52 | jair | but then they are two different things, one the raid controller and the scsi controller? |
| 19:26.55 | vin` | efaistos: install lynx, gpm, screen. |
| 19:27.18 | kspath | efaistos: transcribe it |
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| 19:27.51 | vin` | efaistos: what does dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core say? |
| 19:27.54 | asg | jair: do you know the name of the kernel module used by your raid controller? If so, just modprobe it |
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| 19:28.03 | myboxen | anyway, im gonna reboot and try my fix, bbl. |
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| 19:28.36 | vin` | efaistos: in summary, this is what that link says, "he xfonts-base package now installs fonts to /usr/share/fonts/X11/. You will need to edit your FontPath entries in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. /usr/lib/X11/fonts becomes /usr/share/fonts/X11/. Do the same change to all /usr/lib/ entries." |
| 19:28.43 | Deep7 | guys anyone know how to notify an op on this server? |
| 19:28.50 | antoniojulio | phpldapadmin is change today, please i install, and howto export ldap passwords via phpldapadmin? please |
| 19:28.51 | Deep7 | a freenode op? |
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| 19:29.03 | asg | Deep7: ask in #freenode |
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| 19:29.18 | kspath | Deep7: Did you try the freenode web site? |
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| 19:29.34 | efaistos | vin`: i'll try this |
| 19:29.35 | Zmanu | hi |
| 19:29.49 | Klavier | i installed debian successfuly but i forgot installing desktop and X, i have got debian cd1 and cd2, how can i run package installation interface again? |
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| 19:29.53 | Zmanu | i want to install debian under a ppc 8100, is someone have soon try ? |
| 19:29.59 | Klavier | i tried dpkg-reconfigure -all |
| 19:30.11 | asg | Klavier: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 19:30.13 | asg | Zmanu: try #debianppc |
| 19:30.23 | Klavier | but it s for kernel i want to install gnome |
| 19:30.23 | thingfish | Klavier: try tasksel or base-config, see if they're what you're looking for. |
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| 19:30.39 | Zmanu | asg: ok thanks |
| 19:30.43 | thingfish | Klavier: otherwise just apt-get install gnome |
| 19:30.49 | asg | Zmanu: you're welcome |
| 19:31.08 | vin` | thingfish: and X? |
| 19:31.24 | Klavier | i want to install from my installation CDs not from internet. when i tried apt-get install gnome it s trying to connect to internet thingfish |
| 19:31.24 | stew | Deep7: "/stats p" should list any freenode staffers that are currently active |
| 19:31.36 | stew | Deep7: oh, of which there are currently zero |
| 19:31.37 | thingfish | vin`: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 19:31.47 | asg | stew: running on auto-pilot? :) |
| 19:31.50 | vin` | thingfish: tell him, not me. |
| 19:32.01 | thingfish | vin`: you asked the question. |
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| 19:32.16 | honschu | hi |
| 19:32.23 | stew | asg: seems so |
| 19:32.36 | honschu | I downloaded linux-wlan-ng-src and configured it. How to build that package? |
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| 19:33.26 | Deep7 | stew thanks |
| 19:33.26 | thingfish | vin`: plus someone already told him how to install X, or find instructions on how to do it. |
| 19:33.26 | Wonko | abrotman: No success |
| 19:33.43 | vin` | point being, why repeat a half-cooked answer. |
| 19:33.53 | Wonko | abrotman: In the list of supported nVidia drivers I can not find 6150 |
| 19:34.12 | vin` | honschu: 2.4? |
| 19:34.16 | Wonko | abrotman: In the log file that is |
| 19:34.19 | thingfish | my point too - why should I repeat what he had already been told? |
| 19:34.35 | honschu | vin`: 2.6 (testin) |
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| 19:34.42 | asg | thingfish: when he starts salivating, you can stop ringing the bell |
| 19:34.49 | thingfish | hehe |
| 19:34.51 | martin | Stupid question: how do I start the GNOME print screen thingie from console mode? What is the name of the application? |
| 19:35.25 | kspath | martin: apt-cache search keyword |
| 19:35.40 | honschu | vin`: I just use module-assistang and it seems to work |
| 19:35.50 | jair | asg: are you here |
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| 19:35.51 | jair | ? |
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| 19:36.11 | asg | jair: getting ready to run, whats up? |
| 19:36.15 | jair | asg: this is the name I think aic78xx SCSI |
| 19:36.21 | martin | And I might have to rephrase the question. I'm in BlackBox and I can't find the Screen Capture / PrintScreen thingy. I need the application name so I can start it from like XTerm |
| 19:36.25 | asg | jair: did you try modprobe aic78xx? |
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| 19:36.40 | simonrvn | @tell jair -about ask |
| 19:36.48 | jair | I really get frustrated about this I think i will need to switch this time to Fedora Core or something like that |
| 19:36.48 | asg | martin: /msg dpkg screenshot |
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| 19:36.54 | vin` | honschu: ok. |
| 19:36.57 | jair | asg: unfortunately |
| 19:36.59 | duncf | did someone say my name? i've been afk for a while and I didnt see it, but Xchat seems to think so :-) |
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| 19:37.06 | jair | i will now |
| 19:37.06 | asg | jair: no luck huh? |
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| 19:37.20 | jair | asg: I will try what you told me now |
| 19:37.21 | efaistos | still didnt work ... |
| 19:37.24 | kspath | duncf: lastlog duncf |
| 19:37.30 | kspath | duncf: /lastlog duncf |
| 19:37.31 | jair | modprobe aic78xx right? |
| 19:37.42 | asg | jair: try it |
| 19:37.47 | jair | ok |
| 19:37.59 | vin` | efaistos: what does grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? |
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| 19:38.07 | duncf | kspath: my log might not go back far enough then :-) |
| 19:38.16 | abrotman | Wonko: you might want to ask #xorg if it's supported in 6.9 |
| 19:38.32 | subreal | exit |
| 19:38.39 | efaistos | nope already try :( the screen goes just black and that's all ... it's like it launch it but not |
| 19:38.44 | kspath | duncf: a nick called fishsong spewed something useless about 40 minutes ago. |
| 19:38.49 | asg | kspath: it was from the group fluffling |
| 19:38.52 | vin` | duncf: some troll, ignore. |
| 19:39.05 | duncf | ah... thanks |
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| 19:40.06 | thingfish | Klavier: check man apt-get - it might have a no-download option. |
| 19:40.26 | efaistos | vin`: i have an another problem about an init of font path ... it's about /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ maybe i have to change that to ... |
| 19:40.58 | kingcuritiba | to use BACKPORTS i have to add some lines in source.list. I should delete any line to replace with the new line? Or only add the line? |
| 19:41.06 | jair | I tried though and did not work :( |
| 19:41.10 | kspath | !grounding |
| 19:41.10 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on debian-user, you should read the install guide, or if you have already installed, the debian reference, the apt howto. Ask me about "docs", "unix lessons", "reference", "fundamentals", "newbiedoc", "refcard", "faq". (e.g. type /msg dpkg reference in your irc client) |
| 19:41.10 | asg | kingcuritiba: no, just add the lines |
| 19:41.21 | asg | jair: did you try aic7xxx also? |
| 19:41.21 | Wonko | abrotman: I will do that! Thank you for the help! |
| 19:41.24 | jair | I am sure that the fedora core have the drivers but i want to use Debian though |
| 19:41.24 | kingcuritiba | tks! |
| 19:41.32 | jair | asg: let me try |
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| 19:41.56 | stew | jair: install fedora to a small partition, then debootstrap debian to another |
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| 19:42.14 | stew | jair: have you tried the 2.6.15 sarge installer? |
| 19:42.21 | asg | jair: http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ (these might also work) |
| 19:42.29 | vin` | efaistos: what does dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core say? |
| 19:42.43 | efaistos | it's not installed because not available right now |
| 19:42.53 | efaistos | when i try to install it ... |
| 19:43.04 | kingcuritiba | i've added the lines!! to save and exit...? using editor |
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| 19:43.15 | efaistos | kingcuritiba: apt-get update |
| 19:43.17 | efaistos | then |
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| 19:43.27 | kspath | kingcuritiba: What the "blank" editor are you using? |
| 19:43.31 | efaistos | and after apt-get upgrade |
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| 19:43.39 | kingcuritiba | GNU nano |
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| 19:43.44 | asg | kingcuritiba: CTRL+X |
| 19:43.45 | kspath | kingcuritiba: man nano |
| 19:43.51 | asg | kingcuritiba: when prompted, type 'Y' |
| 19:43.52 | the | hola |
| 19:43.54 | kingcuritiba | thanks both! |
| 19:44.12 | kingcuritiba | ^ = CTRL helped me heheh!! it works! |
| 19:44.31 | vin` | that's a common nano confusion. |
| 19:45.24 | efaistos | vin`: it says that it cant init the font path with X11R6 and I dont even have those lines in my xorg.conf ?!! |
| 19:45.47 | kspath | ^ == control key is not just nano. It is a VERY common method of notation for the "control key". It is something useful to know. |
| 19:46.15 | efaistos | are they some additionnal pkgs to install to have xorg working ? some links to add to X ? |
| 19:46.39 | efaistos | nobody to help me a little bit ? |
| 19:46.57 | jair | asg: stew I tried the modprobe command and this time i did not get any bad message but then i went back with ctrl+F1 and I try partitioning again and I got the same message no disk to partition |
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| 19:47.05 | vin` | efaistos: try getting x-window-system-core |
| 19:47.33 | jair | asg: stew I did not know that exist a 2.6.15 installer? |
| 19:47.35 | efaistos | vin`: not present in testing archive right now |
| 19:47.38 | stew | jair: make sure sd_mod is loaded |
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| 19:48.14 | vin` | efaistos: what about just xorg? |
| 19:48.22 | jair | stew: what I did is run "modeprobe -c aic7xxx and then it shows me a long list of lines with information about modules I think |
| 19:48.32 | vin` | with gazillions of metapackages who knows? |
| 19:48.45 | gteppel | Has anyone successfully ran a Debian server with samba that acted as PDC for Windows and OS X clients? |
| 19:49.02 | asg | jair: when you do the 'modprobe in console' thing, you have to do it before the installer starts the partitioner or it won't pick up the newly installed module. |
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| 19:49.07 | stew | jair: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 19:49.23 | jair | stew: ok |
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| 19:49.42 | stew | jair: i'm not sure that "modprobe -c " actually loads the module |
| 19:49.45 | jair | asg: I will start the installer and right away run the command in the other console to see what happen |
| 19:49.51 | kspath | !tell gteppel about mailing list |
| 19:49.57 | asg | jair: okay |
| 19:50.01 | jair | stew: ok I will check the man page |
| 19:50.09 | kspath | gteppel: You might consider searching mailing list archives as well. |
| 19:50.10 | _Atomo64_ | so, can any1 help me with my sound device problem? |
| 19:50.42 | efaistos | under unstable xserver-xorg-core is available ? |
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| 19:51.08 | stew | _Atomo64_: do you have the snd-via82xx module loaded? |
| 19:51.17 | asg | !qotd88 |
| 19:51.17 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows < quadrata> I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
| 19:51.24 | stew | efaistos: /msg dpkg pdo |
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| 19:51.47 | _Atomo64_ | stew: yes |
| 19:51.57 | stew | _Atomo64_: does alsamixer work? |
| 19:52.05 | vin` | efaistos: yes, also the metapackage 'xorg' pulls in all that's needed, not sure about testing. |
| 19:52.21 | kspath | asg: hehehehe anyone respond with #winehq or whatever? |
| 19:52.22 | stew | in testing it's still x-window-system-core |
| 19:52.24 | efaistos | vin`: try that right now :) |
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| 19:52.39 | asg | kspath: can't remember, it was some time ago |
| 19:52.50 | _Atomo64_ | stew: it loads... what should I do there? |
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| 19:53.54 | sandman | Is there a way to automatically convert pictures into ASCII art? |
| 19:53.56 | stew | _Atomo64_: make sure that master and pcm are both turned up and unmuted (toggle mute with m). then hit esc to exit. modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; then see if "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" makes static |
| 19:54.33 | vin` | stew: 22:46:33 vin` | efaistos: try getting x-window-system-core 22:47:03 efaistos | vin`: not present in testing archive right now |
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| 19:55.03 | kspath | !qotd0 |
| 19:55.03 | dpkg | <feerf> ok, the main think that does not work in Woody is that Woody is way too old (like museum now) |
| 19:55.13 | stew | !info x-window-system-core testing |
| 19:55.18 | _Atomo64_ | stew: sure it does! |
| 19:55.55 | _Atomo64_ | stew: but kmix shows an (X) saying 'Mixer cannot be found' |
| 19:56.08 | vin` | stew: it's there, *shrug* |
| 19:56.08 | nkuttler | sandman: maybe aview |
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| 19:56.34 | stew | _Atomo64_: sorry i dunno about kmix |
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| 19:56.51 | _Atomo64_ | stew: kmix is justa mixer |
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| 19:57.23 | _Atomo64_ | stew: and... when I try to use mplayer to play sound to ALSA it still doesn't works |
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| 19:57.56 | stew | _Atomo64_: do you have artsd running? |
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| 19:58.10 | _Atomo64_ | stew: no, I disabled it... |
| 19:58.23 | stew | sandman: there is some utility that uses libaa1 to do it, maybe in libaa-bin but i dont' remember which |
| 19:58.25 | Doctor | isn't alsa supposed to allow multiple clients? like artsd and w/e? |
| 19:58.47 | stew | Doctor: it can if your hardware supports it or if you use dmix |
| 19:58.53 | _Atomo64_ | stew: but kmix works without aRts... it's like alsamixer |
| 19:59.23 | stew | _Atomo64_: what device is kmix trying to talk to? |
| 19:59.34 | Doctor | I like how arts works over network :D |
| 20:00.26 | _Atomo64_ | stew: it normally detects everything and then it allows you to choose which one. I has always displayed the via one |
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| 20:01.37 | _Atomo64_ | stew: now when I try to open aRts it says that it couldn't open /dev/dsp because of 'permission denied' |
| 20:01.46 | _Atomo64_ | wtf! |
| 20:01.52 | stew | _Atomo64_: are you a member of the audio group? |
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| 20:02.02 | jair | stew: asg I will start the installation again and right at the begining I will try to run modprobe aic7xxx |
| 20:02.24 | jair | asg: stew and then if this does not work i will try the one from the oregon state university. |
| 20:02.28 | _Atomo64_ | stew: s!t... yesterday I just disabled that group for my acc, because when I created it, it wasn'e enabled by default... so i tough it wasn't necessary |
| 20:02.28 | stew | jair: modprobe sd_mod while you are at it |
| 20:02.45 | jair | asg: stew ok cool, I will let you know guys if works or not |
| 20:02.52 | _Atomo64_ | stew: give me a sec, I'll change my groups and re-login. Thanks :) |
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| 20:03.15 | jair | stew: asg I will be back |
| 20:03.38 | _Atomo64_ | stew: do I need to be a member of the 'disk' group? |
| 20:04.03 | stew | _Atomo64_: no |
| 20:04.16 | _Atomo64_ | stew: ok, I'll brb |
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| 20:06.47 | _Atomo64_ | stew: yeah, now it works! |
| 20:06.51 | efaistos | vin`: i just installed xserver-xorg-core but still not working :( |
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| 20:07.26 | vin` | efaistos: is x-window-system-core installed? |
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| 20:07.28 | MikeGreenwell | I r a looser |
| 20:08.08 | efaistos | vin`: not the core one just the x-window-system |
| 20:08.11 | MikeGreenwell | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:08.17 | efaistos | I just installed it ... |
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| 20:08.55 | vin` | efaistos: that'll do, now fix the font paths in xorg.conf it should just work. if not have a coffee. ;) |
| 20:09.55 | thak | java-package |
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| 20:11.00 | jair | stew: asg This commands and the other things did not work guys :( |
| 20:11.17 | jair | stew: asg I will try to boot from the iso installer from the oregon university. |
| 20:11.22 | jair | see what happen |
| 20:11.25 | fourat | anyone succeded a debian install on SATA hard disk ? |
| 20:11.31 | sepski | fourat, yes |
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| 20:12.15 | sepski | fourat, you can , run your sata chipset in legacy mode. or you can user a installer with more recent kernel (as i mentioned earlier) |
| 20:12.20 | sepski | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 20:12.20 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 20:12.21 | fourat | sepski, me too, but it freezes sometimes |
| 20:12.31 | efaistos | vin`: what xfonts pkg do you have installed on your computer ? |
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| 20:12.59 | fourat | sepski, how to run in legacy mode ? |
| 20:13.05 | sepski | fourat, why do you think your freezez are sata originated ? |
| 20:13.09 | sepski | fourat, depends on the bios |
| 20:13.27 | beered | what was the inital release date for testing? |
| 20:13.29 | sepski | fourat, but it's in the bios settings. (i reccoemend the 2.6.15 installer instaead) |
| 20:13.48 | sepski | fourat, otherways youll be here asking why you'r devices changed from hda to sda later... |
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| 20:14.11 | fourat | sepski, i've installed debian sarge and ubuntu, it uses the sata_sil module, the system is stable until it crashes saying this : |
| 20:14.12 | fourat | ata1: command 0x35 timeout, stat 0x50 host_stat 0x24 |
| 20:14.14 | vin` | efaistos: join #flood |
| 20:14.46 | beered | !testing |
| 20:14.46 | dpkg | A release phase between frozen (stable) and unstable. Etch is now testing. See http://www.linuxmafia.com/debian/testingfaq.html for frequently asked questions about testing. Note that testing and security updates mix complexly. Also check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2000/12/msg00011.html for the initial release. |
| 20:14.49 | efaistos | vin`: i'm there :) |
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| 20:15.12 | beered | Dec 2000... seems like yestarday! :) |
| 20:15.18 | fourat | sepski, after that message, the system is not accessible, only a poweroff is possible |
| 20:15.50 | sid | What can I use like norton ghost...except floss? |
| 20:15.55 | tarzeau | c'est difficiles , means it's hard? |
| 20:16.19 | sepski | fourat, try a more recent kernel then you can just apt-get one from backports,org (if your system runs long enoughf) |
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| 20:16.34 | keck0f | hi. |
| 20:16.45 | fourat | sepski, tryed the .17 one |
| 20:16.59 | keck0f | can i use xlock to lock all inputs but not visually lock the screen? is there any else tool that fits the task? a transparent "screen saver"? |
| 20:18.39 | kspath | keck0f: How do you get out of "it" if all inputs are "locked"? What is "not visually locking"? |
| 20:19.01 | kingcuritiba | i did the upgrade os apt-get using backports, and also installed mysql 5. But when i type STATUS inside mysql client, is still saying that is version 4!! should i restart? |
| 20:19.38 | kspath | kingcuritiba: "restart" ? what mysqld? your host? |
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| 20:20.03 | kingcuritiba | should i restart mysql-server? or debian? |
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| 20:20.49 | keck0f | kspath: a screen saver that shows the Desktop. if a key is hit or the mouse being moved it asks for userpassword to unlock. a "transparent screen saver".. |
| 20:20.52 | keck0f | any idea? |
| 20:20.56 | kspath | I am amazed how many pointy-clicky admins are "trying" to run/manage linux/unix/bsd servers professionally with no real experience or knowledge or willingness to read documentation or howtos or ... |
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| 20:21.57 | kspath | keck0f: That would not be a "screen saver". |
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| 20:22.48 | kingcuritiba | kspath: i thought that the command "apt-get UPGRADE" were prepare everything to run mysql 5... i'm not trying to run or manage PROFESSIONALLY... i'm doing in my home, only because i'm interessted to learn mysql! |
| 20:23.17 | kspath | kingcuritiba: I did not refer to you or anyone else by name. It was a general observation. |
| 20:23.30 | kingcuritiba | i admite that i'm newbie ;) |
| 20:23.31 | keck0f | kspath: yeah, i does not save crts from burning but it saves the system not beeing accessed by unwanted users. |
| 20:23.33 | kspath | keck0f: Did you even look into xscreensaver ? |
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| 20:24.02 | kspath | keck0f: xlockmore vlock ... |
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| 20:24.10 | keck0f | kspath: i tried to find some option "-transparent" or something like that in the man-page, but could not find. |
| 20:24.15 | kspath | keck0f: Did you do any research? |
| 20:24.16 | Rockj | When I try to mount my windows partition, it mounts up but it is read-only for the root user. Ive added user as option in fstab but still my normal user can't access the partition. What can I do to fix this, so I can use it from my normal linux user? |
| 20:24.20 | itc | hello, need some hel installing debian on a raid device, is installing but it won't boot after |
| 20:24.46 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 20:24.46 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 20:24.48 | keck0f | kspath: sure, for windows there is "TLpro" and there is also a "transparent screensaver for osx" |
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| 20:24.59 | kspath | keck0f: I remember several "screen savers" that will show the "desktop" or whatever was on screen and just make minor visual changes. |
| 20:25.01 | tarzeau | kspath: is there that many of them? |
| 20:25.16 | kspath | keck0f: I am talking about X and linux. |
| 20:25.17 | tarzeau | kspath: aren't they frustrated because they can't do what they want? |
| 20:25.33 | keck0f | kspath: yes, there is some magnifying or a lense-effect.... |
| 20:25.42 | cahoot | Rockj: IIR the solution is found here (among other places): http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki |
| 20:25.52 | kspath | keck0f: Did you try looking into altering their options? |
| 20:26.10 | _Atomo64_ | stew: do you have any idea of what 'alsa-uninit: pcm closed' when playing a video means?... after that mplayer gives me an 'Exiting... (End of file)' |
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| 20:26.21 | tarzeau | Rockj: www.linuks.mine.nu/mount/ see the umask= |
| 20:26.27 | keck0f | kspath: yeah, but what option? |
| 20:26.36 | Rockj | oki, taking a look now.. =) |
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| 20:27.06 | kspath | keck0f: You expect someone to drop whatever they might be doing to do what you are apparently unwilling to do or try yourself? |
| 20:27.26 | onetinsoldier | hello all. i was wondering if anyone might know why my system time is 6 hours behind. if i run ntpdate it corrects it, but whenever i reboot system time is back to being 6 hours behind. |
| 20:27.33 | itc | no help installing linux on a raid device? wow! |
| 20:27.58 | kspath | itc: Hardware RAID does not need any real help unless someone is impaired. |
| 20:28.13 | stew | onetinsoldier: you probably need to toggle the UTC setting in /etc/rcS/default |
| 20:28.21 | tarzeau | does someone use fltk as a developer? i can't build dillo 0.8.6 against it (there were some ugly renames/capital letter changes in headerfiles?) |
| 20:28.48 | onetinsoldier | stew: ok. thanks. i'll have a look. i should have also said that tzconfig is set to my correct timezone |
| 20:28.53 | Rockj | Thanks cahoot & tarzeau. umask solved it. :o) |
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| 20:29.28 | tarzeau | tiCo89: tishiiiis |
| 20:29.33 | itc | kspath well is just not working and I don;t know how to boot to compile a kernel for it |
| 20:30.00 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: they came today, but not yet all (e.g your one), they will ship it in some days when they have new ones... |
| 20:30.06 | stew | itc: hardware raid or software raid? |
| 20:30.08 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: do you come on friday? |
| 20:30.09 | stew | itc: or fakeraid |
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| 20:30.11 | kspath | itc: Are you really asking about SATA or IDE/ATA or SCSI driver support? |
| 20:30.21 | tarzeau | tiCo89: friday, to where? yes to get the shirt :) |
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| 20:30.25 | itc | stew is not a fake raid, is an intel hardware raid, sata |
| 20:30.48 | tarzeau | tiCo89: starbucks? |
| 20:30.51 | efaistos | vin`: still nothin' :( |
| 20:30.51 | itc | raid 5, I know how to add that in the kernel but I don't know what to do on the first instalation |
| 20:31.06 | kspath | itc: 2.4? 2.6? Stable/Sarge? Testing/Etch? Unstable/Sid? |
| 20:31.08 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: no, at the meeting, the speech could be interesting |
| 20:31.16 | tarzeau | tiCo89: what's the speak about? where? |
| 20:31.22 | tiCo89 | and yes, maybe starbucks too, don't know if i cowill come so early |
| 20:31.27 | itc | kspath stable/sarge |
| 20:31.36 | itc | I installed it spet by step but it won;t boot after |
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| 20:31.40 | itc | it hangs up |
| 20:31.57 | tarzeau | tiCo89: i've got a busy week. but if andruschki wants to see me, i won't come at all |
| 20:32.03 | kspath | itc: 2.4? 2.6? kernel? Did you set up your RAID independent of any OS yet? |
| 20:32.13 | stew | itc: there were no errors during install? did you install lilo or grub? |
| 20:32.13 | itc | so my guess is I have to boot the system with a cd or something and compile the kernel with the scsi core and the raid device |
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| 20:32.16 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: andruschki? |
| 20:32.17 | vin` | efaistos: are you using irssi? |
| 20:32.27 | efaistos | yes |
| 20:32.29 | itc | stew was grub ( the only choise I had ) |
| 20:32.30 | tarzeau | tiCo89: andrea :) nice .. no very nice girl |
| 20:32.34 | stew | itc: if you were able to isntall to the raid, then you shouldn't need a different kernel |
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| 20:32.54 | itc | well stew, it's not booting at all |
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| 20:33.05 | stew | itc: what happens when you boot? are you sure that the raid is in the boot order in the bios? |
| 20:33.09 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: picture? |
| 20:33.13 | itc | yes, very sure |
| 20:33.13 | tarzeau | tiCo89: sure |
| 20:33.22 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: qry :-) |
| 20:33.27 | tarzeau | tiCo89: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/framboise.png |
| 20:33.36 | itc | I see this blank screen and the _ line |
| 20:33.38 | itc | hanging |
| 20:33.46 | onetinsoldier | stew: sorry. i have no clue about 'default' in /etc/rcS.d |
| 20:33.46 | stew | itc: then you might rerun the install cd and try lilo instead of grub |
| 20:33.46 | kspath | itc: BIOS? boot order? RAID device configuration was completed separate from any OS ? |
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| 20:34.00 | stew | onetinsoldier: you probably need to toggle the UTC setting in /etc/rcS/default |
| 20:34.08 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: hmmm, balkon? ;-) |
| 20:34.18 | stew | onetinsoldier: oh, /etc/default/rcS |
| 20:34.22 | stew | sorry |
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| 20:34.32 | kspath | testing testing NSA testing testing NSA |
| 20:34.34 | Shadowcat | stew: do the xorg 7 screwups only affect upgrades, or clean installs as well? |
| 20:34.35 | tarzeau | tiCo89: chasch no ganzi saetz mache, mit verb und so? balkon what? |
| 20:34.36 | onetinsoldier | stew: ok... let me have a look again |
| 20:34.54 | Doctor | grr i hate it when I accidentally cat a binary file to my term and the charmap screws up |
| 20:34.56 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: does she have a "balkon"? |
| 20:35.05 | itc | kspath I configured the raid, the bios is set to boot from the raid and that's all. I installed it with no problems, it reboots and won't start. It's hardware raid, megaraid |
| 20:35.06 | Shadowcat | Doctor: that's what "reset" is for |
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| 20:35.22 | kingcuritiba | where i can find SYSLOG at debian? |
| 20:35.25 | tarzeau | tiCo89: she's got a large garden ... why does she need a balcony? |
| 20:35.25 | kspath | Doctor: Did you try "stty sane ^J" ? Where ^J is control-j |
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| 20:35.34 | Shadowcat | kingcuritiba /var/log/syslog |
| 20:35.41 | kingcuritiba | tks! |
| 20:35.55 | Shadowcat | ever tried a clean install of xorg 7? |
| 20:36.00 | itc | as I can see in the install is using the megaraid2 module |
| 20:36.05 | Doctor | heh i remember being told stty sane but not the ^J |
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| 20:36.35 | kspath | Doctor: ^J is useful sometimes |
| 20:36.46 | onetinsoldier | stew: ok...i found it. thank you! i do wonder what happened along the way that this setting needs to be changed now. hmm. well, thank you. i am going to set that to yes and reboot and see what happens! |
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| 20:37.39 | stew | onetinsoldier: ime you want that set to "yes" unless you dual boot with windows in which case you want "no" |
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| 20:37.51 | kspath | !tell kingcuritiba about grounding |
| 20:37.59 | Shadowcat | bah I guess no one knows |
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| 20:38.02 | fatfreddie | dear friends, as i told you, my xserver is running no more since the upgrade yesterday. this is the second time i'm messing around with this. here a suggestion: why not keep a simple minimalistic foolproof xserver-package available? or is this technically a problem? |
| 20:38.06 | Shadowcat | sigh... guess I'll have to experiment again |
| 20:38.22 | Shadowcat | fatfreddie: have you read the topic? |
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| 20:39.04 | kspath | kingcuritiba: SYSLOG is pretty much "standard" among unix/linux/bsd The main difference(s) is /var/log and /var/adm and the log names. You are welcome to read man syslog or man syslog.conf or man syslogd .... |
| 20:39.09 | fatfreddie | shadowcat: no, scrolling too fast. |
| 20:39.21 | Shadowcat | fatfreddie: then read it |
| 20:39.36 | onetinsoldier | stew: i do dual boot... to winxp. not too sure how much i care about winxp time being off though. winxp a broken os when it comes to using utc time? |
| 20:39.36 | didas | hi. I am running sarge with GNOME. Can I specify the username that bluefish uses? |
| 20:39.41 | Shadowcat | onetinsoldier: winxp doesn't understand that concept |
| 20:39.46 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 20:39.49 | onetinsoldier | figures |
| 20:39.57 | stew | fatfreddie: put your xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log into a pastebin |
| 20:39.58 | kingcuritiba | i'm reading the syslog to try to discover what happened that now when i start debian, the service mysql are with problems to start!! the debian suggested to read syslog to check the error! |
| 20:40.21 | Shadowcat | kingcuritiba: how about reading the mysql logs? |
| 20:40.35 | jair | stew: asg i tried the one from the university of oregon and it works :) |
| 20:40.51 | stew | kingcuritiba: try running "mysqld" on the command line by itself to see if you get any clue as to why it doesn't start |
| 20:40.52 | jair | stew asg it looks like the thing is add the driver from the redhat linux |
| 20:41.03 | jair | somehow was added to the installer they created |
| 20:41.06 | fatfreddie | stew: very kind. any suggestion for a pastebin? |
| 20:41.09 | kspath | onetinsoldier: By running ntpdate every boot or every hour or ntpd you can have time corrected. |
| 20:41.14 | stew | !paster |
| 20:41.14 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 20:41.54 | didas | hi. I am running sarge with GNOME. Does anybody know if I can specify the username that bluefish uses? Is it my username? |
| 20:42.02 | fatfreddie | thanks |
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| 20:42.32 | sid | What can I use for a vpn... that both CentOS 4.3 and Debian testing support? |
| 20:42.38 | onetinsoldier | kspath: is that what should be done for a dual boot machine then? is it really needed. what if i set it to use utc in the hardware clock? winxp would then be the os that would be off by six hours? i could live with that |
| 20:42.39 | fatfreddie | !paster |
| 20:42.39 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
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| 20:43.12 | kspath | onetinsoldier: That is your choice. Whatever works for you. |
| 20:43.14 | fatfreddie | !paster |
| 20:43.15 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 20:43.15 | gnufan | IS there a way to install all fonts which are relevant to written English from the Debian repository. I guess anything covering locales C, US, and en_GB would do. dpkg is being non-debian specific......at least on the answers I've read so far |
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| 20:43.44 | Shadowcat | gnufan: start browsing in aptitude |
| 20:43.46 | didas | hi. I am running sarge with GNOME. Does anybody know if I can specify the username that bluefish uses? Is it my username? |
| 20:43.49 | jlaw | hi mates ... i've a question regarding gdm |
| 20:43.58 | kingcuritiba | stew: when i try MYSQLD on the command line, returns: "unknow variable 'old_passwords=1'". Maybe its because i installed mysql 4, and upgrade to 5, without set a root password to mysql 4, check? |
| 20:44.20 | jlaw | when booting gdm always set a resolution of 1600x1200 |
| 20:44.22 | onetinsoldier | kspath: roger that. thanks for the input. i think i will set linux to set utc as the default |
| 20:44.26 | kspath | didas: Maybe it would help those that might try to answer that if you would share your logic. |
| 20:44.29 | gnufan | didas: yes commands run as you by default |
| 20:44.34 | stew | kingcuritiba: i believe it is documented in /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0 or whatever the packagename is |
| 20:45.01 | jlaw | i set the resolution to 1280 in gnome, kde and bb |
| 20:45.02 | stew | kingcuritiba: in the README.Debian file specifically |
| 20:45.04 | kingcuritiba | i'll search about the variable and the error at google ;) |
| 20:45.06 | jlaw | but it is always reset by gdm |
| 20:45.33 | Doctor | hmmm does wget detect and deal with gzip? |
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| 20:45.33 | stew | kingcuritiba: in any case it sounds like your version 4 /etc/mysql/my.cnf doesn't work with mysql 4 |
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| 20:45.34 | stew | err with mysql 5 |
| 20:45.35 | jlaw | i edited the x-config, but without effect |
| 20:45.35 | kspath | didas: Were you aware that you could "try it" and use ps command to see who/what it ran as. |
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| 20:45.45 | jlaw | has gdm an own config file for the resolution which it forces? |
| 20:45.45 | kingcuritiba | i'll look! |
| 20:46.05 | stew | jlaw: put your x config and your x log into a pastebin |
| 20:46.17 | didas | kspath : thx mate. problem solved |
| 20:46.23 | jlaw | sq: what is a pastebin? |
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| 20:46.33 | stew | !pastebin |
| 20:46.34 | dpkg | somebody said pastebin was a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 20:46.36 | tamz | i have winxp on drive e...how it is possible to install debian on drive c and keep winxp working on drive e.... |
| 20:47.01 | onetinsoldier | stew: hey, maybe you could help me with my x problem too... hehe |
| 20:47.02 | fatfreddie | stew: ahem, sorry, but how can i paste from one tty to the other? or is there a program to run different sessions in the same tty? |
| 20:47.09 | Shadowcat | tamz: no, it doesn't work that way |
| 20:47.10 | jlaw | mkey |
| 20:47.16 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 20:47.16 | dpkg | i guess pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m |
| 20:47.24 | tamz | how it works |
| 20:47.27 | fatfreddie | stew:thank you |
| 20:47.30 | jlaw | never heard of it before^^ |
| 20:47.36 | kspath | tamz: drive "letters" mean nothing in unix/linux/bsd world unless someone were to run wine or samba or the like. |
| 20:47.50 | Shadowcat | tamz: you put XP on the first partition on the primary master, and then you install debian |
| 20:47.56 | jlaw | well, my xconfig should be ok |
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| 20:48.21 | jlaw | it's just gdm is always setting the resolution to 1600 !? |
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| 20:48.57 | kspath | tamz: Do you know how many and what kind of harddrives you have? Are you aware of how many and what kind of partitions on on those drives? |
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| 20:49.32 | stew | i thought with grub it didnt' matter if winxp was on the primary master or not |
| 20:49.59 | kspath | tamz: You really should search for information regarding dual-booting with M$ windows. |
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| 20:50.12 | didas | gnufan: kspath: I used ps for bluefish. It seems that bluefish runs as leopard while my username is leopard12. I thought is should be running as leopard12. Don't you agree? |
| 20:50.23 | tamz | thanks |
| 20:50.37 | Shadowcat | stew: it's not grub that's the problem |
| 20:50.48 | jlaw | ? |
| 20:50.49 | kspath | didas: I have no idea what you are doing. ps is a tool. |
| 20:50.50 | fatfreddie | !pastewithoutx |
| 20:50.50 | dpkg | rumour has it, pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m |
| 20:50.56 | Shadowcat | it's the fact that XP puts a bootloader on the primary partition no matter where you put the os files |
| 20:50.59 | stew | fatfreddie: please /msg the bot |
| 20:51.09 | Shadowcat | so if you nuke that partition, or makes it unreadable to XP, it won't boot, period |
| 20:51.38 | didas | kspath : ps aux | grep bluefish gives me the username 'leopard' while I am logged on as leopard12 |
| 20:51.46 | gnufan | didas: unless you arrange to run it as leopard, I'd suspect the field is truncated |
| 20:52.13 | kspath | didas: man id;man ps;man top |
| 20:52.28 | jlaw | hrm |
| 20:52.42 | didas | gnufan: I was not aware that this can happen. OK thx |
| 20:52.43 | kspath | didas: Here is a clue. Is there even a user leopard on your system. |
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| 20:53.23 | kspath | didas: I hope you started with leopard00 or leopard0000000 or whatever . |
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| 20:53.38 | fatfreddie | stew: sorry, "/msg the bot", what do you mean. am i doing something wrong here. i hope not. |
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| 20:54.04 | kspath | !tell fatfreddie about dpkg |
| 20:54.16 | didas | kspath: no never a user leopard on my system. The username I am logged on is truncated. I will do my homework as you suggested... ;-) |
| 20:54.18 | |ac3| | what is the meaning of all these different directories on a debian mirror like: /pool, /indices, ...? |
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| 20:54.21 | kspath | fatfreddie: The idea is you can talk out of channel with dpkg extensively. |
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| 20:55.34 | stew | |ac3|: its explained in the repository howto /msg dpkg repository |
| 20:55.48 | kspath | fatfreddie: I just asked dpkg about apt without it impacting #debian. Sometimes pointing information in #debian can be useful but generally it just causes unnecessary scroll. |
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| 20:57.00 | |ac3| | thx |
| 20:57.22 | kspath | !beer stew |
| 20:57.33 | stew | yay |
| 20:57.46 | kingcuritiba | stew: Now it works! I started again mysql! but, when i ask STATUS, returns version 4.0.24_Debian-10sarge1-log! But i upgraded to 5 using backports! when i type "apt-cache policy mysql-server" after reload apt, it returns my version 5!! why my server is still version 4? any ideas? |
| 20:58.38 | kspath | kingcuritiba: Did you upgrade client and server? Did you start the version5 mysqld server? |
| 20:58.42 | stew | kingcuritiba: what pacakge does "dpkg -S `which mysqld`" return? what is the version of that pacakge? |
| 20:59.42 | stew | kingcuritiba: oh wait, status is the client, not the server |
| 21:00.05 | kspath | Easy mistake. |
| 21:00.13 | kingcuritiba | I upgrade using this line command: "apt-get upgrade mysql-server", to upgrade the server |
| 21:00.22 | stew | kingcuritiba: that's not a valid command |
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| 21:00.39 | fourat | anyone experienced problems with SATA drives ? errors like this : ata1: command 0x25 timeout, stat 0x50 host_stat 0x4 |
| 21:00.40 | stew | kingcuritiba: the status command should return both the client version and "Server version:" |
| 21:00.44 | no0ke | !abuse |
| 21:00.44 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
| 21:00.47 | kspath | kingcuritiba: did the mysqld start command have a --version or -V option? |
| 21:01.00 | kingcuritiba | i'll check with man!! |
| 21:01.04 | kingcuritiba | wait |
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| 21:02.02 | kspath | clients and servers giving information should make it quite clear which information is which or at least the man pages should make it clear. Your mileage may vary. |
| 21:02.07 | kingcuritiba | mysql -v returns: mysqld Ver 4.0.24_Debian-10sarge1-log for pc-linux-gnu |
| 21:02.21 | kspath | kingcuritiba: mysql is client |
| 21:02.21 | kingcuritiba | sorry, mysqld returns |
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| 21:02.41 | stew | kingcuritiba: yeah, that's the client though, when you run mysql and type "status;" it should return a line with "Server version:" what does that line say? |
| 21:02.42 | kingcuritiba | mysqld (with 'd') returns that line |
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| 21:02.59 | lavland | hey |
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| 21:03.19 | lavland | i am trying to make an iso image of a DVD with dd |
| 21:03.21 | kingcuritiba | when i start the client MYSQL, and connect to the server, and type STATUS: return the same version (4.0) |
| 21:03.30 | lavland | dd if=/dev/hdc of=blah.iso |
| 21:03.41 | stew | kingcuritiba: sounds like you are running 4.0 then |
| 21:04.01 | lavland | after 2 GB or so it sais "File size limit exceeded (core dumped)" |
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| 21:04.19 | lavland | any idea how to make that damn image? |
| 21:04.26 | stew | lavland: what is the fs you are trying to write blah.iso to? |
| 21:04.30 | fatfreddie | !pastewithoutx |
| 21:04.30 | dpkg | somebody said pastewithoutx was you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m |
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| 21:04.57 | kingcuritiba | yes =/ but i did the upgrade! i dont understand why didnt works! i follow the instructions to backports, i checked the version before did the apt-get upgrade, and it said that would be used version 5 to candidate... but now, the server still 4 |
| 21:04.58 | stew | fatfreddie: please type "/msg dpkg pastewithoutx" into your irc client instead so that we all don't have to see that over and over |
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| 21:05.29 | lavland | stew, tried on ext3 |
| 21:05.43 | lavland | stew, also on some NFS mounted stuff |
| 21:05.53 | fatfreddie | stew: really sorry for that. but now i understood. |
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| 21:06.43 | stew | kingcuritiba: put the output of "apt-cache policy mysql-server mysql-server-5.0" into a pastebin |
| 21:07.02 | efaistos | does someone could help me with xorg ? I'm going crazy with it ... :( |
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| 21:07.34 | stew | efaistos: what version of x11-common do you have installed? |
| 21:07.39 | no0ke | dpkg dumb is blah |
| 21:07.40 | dpkg | ...but dumb is already something else... |
| 21:07.44 | no0ke | ic |
| 21:07.50 | AMB | hi people |
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| 21:08.16 | beardy | no0ke: What was the purpose of that? |
| 21:08.16 | lavland | stew: so any idea how to do it? |
| 21:08.20 | efaistos | stew: 1:7.0.18 |
| 21:08.30 | no0ke | nothing |
| 21:08.37 | efaistos | stew: the last from sid ... |
| 21:08.53 | stew | efaistos: have you looked at the Xorg69To7 page? |
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| 21:09.12 | AMB | can i ask a question about mpc decoder and lame here? or will i be kicked? it's basically a unix-noob question... |
| 21:09.16 | stew | lavland: dunno, neither ext3 nor NFS would have such a restriction |
| 21:09.29 | efaistos | stew: yes ... |
| 21:09.38 | lavland | stew: any DD restrictions? |
| 21:09.39 | kspath | AMB: Is it a Debian question? |
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| 21:09.52 | kingcuritiba | stew: apt-cache returns: "installed: 4.0.24, candidate: 5.0.20" |
| 21:09.54 | AMB | kspath, well... i use debian :) |
| 21:09.57 | gnufan | Bah did I really need to log out of GNOME to pick up the new fonts I installed or was there a smarter way? |
| 21:10.02 | stew | lavland: dunno, but i doubt it, you could try cp if you think it might be dd |
| 21:10.09 | stew | efaistos: what exactly is the problem you are having? |
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| 21:10.09 | kingcuritiba | I use this command to install: "apt-get upgrade mysql-server". is it invalid? |
| 21:10.13 | kspath | AMB: That does not really make a difference even if it was running on a debian machine. |
| 21:10.14 | beardy | AMB: No, as long as you continue to be as nice as you are now, you'll be friendly (more or less) pointed to the right place to ask instead. |
| 21:10.28 | stew | kingcuritiba: that's not a valid command. |
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| 21:10.33 | stew | kingcuritiba: http://backports.org/instructions.html |
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| 21:10.45 | efaistos | stew: when i try to start X with X, startx or gdm the screen just goes black and i have to reboot manually |
| 21:10.53 | efaistos | cant come back in console |
| 21:10.55 | stew | efaistos: can you put your log into a pastebin? |
| 21:11.06 | efaistos | stew: on #flood ? |
| 21:11.09 | stew | efaistos: which driver are you using? |
| 21:11.12 | efaistos | ati ... |
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| 21:12.04 | kingcuritiba | stew: i thought that should be use apt-get upgrade, to upgrade... but now i'm trying apt-get INSTALL... should works!! lets try!! |
| 21:12.16 | AMB | i haven't got anywhere else to go... i just wanted to ask how to correctly make mppdec decode to stdout and make lame encode on the fly from stdin (if possible at all) |
| 21:12.29 | Shadowcat | AMB: read the lame documentation? |
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| 21:13.07 | efaistos | stew: any idea ? |
| 21:13.09 | kspath | !tell AMB about research |
| 21:13.30 | beardy | AMB: The first thing to do is to read the documentation, if it can output and input to stdout/stdin, it will be mentioned there. The programs manpages, and /usr/share/doc/packagename/* |
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| 21:14.16 | stew | efaistos: no, there are no errors there. it looks like it starts normally. you cannot switch to a vt with ctrl-alt-f1? |
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| 21:14.38 | efaistos | stew: nope ... |
| 21:14.41 | AMB | i've read the programs' --helps, both can use stdin and stdout, but i don't know how to make use of this |
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| 21:14.48 | damosu | ya tengo xgl :D |
| 21:14.53 | fatfreddie | stew: still there? i finally pasted xorg.conf. its #2551, if you would have a look at it? |
| 21:14.53 | damosu | pero no veas |
| 21:15.03 | damosu | se me han apìñado todas las ventanas |
| 21:15.16 | Ronin | !es |
| 21:15.16 | damosu | las letras estan a distinto tamaño xD |
| 21:15.16 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:15.21 | Ronin | or is it br? |
| 21:15.22 | damosu | sorry |
| 21:15.26 | Dorfl | Hello. I am looking for a console utility for locating wireless access points for my laptop. Eg if I take it to a coffee shop with access, how to connect there. |
| 21:15.28 | damosu | es |
| 21:15.30 | beardy | AMB: Also, that is what a |, pipe, is for, but if those programs works like that, I don't know. But to pipe the output of one program to the input of another program you do 'ls -la | grep foo'. |
| 21:15.48 | efaistos | stew: weird, isnt it ? |
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| 21:16.02 | beardy | AMB: Read more than the short --help, 'man program' |
| 21:16.16 | efaistos | stew: and i must restart it manually ... really anoying |
| 21:16.19 | AMB | beardy, hmm... | (pipe) may be the thing i'm looking for |
| 21:16.27 | efaistos | s/anoying/annoyinf |
| 21:16.36 | stew | efaistos: try vesa maybe? just to isolate if it is the driver |
| 21:16.36 | AMB | thx for the hint |
| 21:16.47 | efaistos | stew: yeah i'll try this out |
| 21:16.48 | stew | fatfreddie: i dont' see anything obvious there, can you put up your log? |
| 21:17.01 | beardy | AMB: To learn more about the shell, redirection of input/output and so on, read bash's manual (assuming you run bash) 'man bash' |
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| 21:17.12 | fatfreddie | stew: alright. one minute (or ten) |
| 21:17.18 | efaistos | stew: i'm coming back .. |
| 21:17.31 | beardy | AMB: "/msg dpkg reference" is also recommended for a new user. |
| 21:18.01 | abrotman | beardy: /msg dpkg grounding |
| 21:18.10 | beardy | abrotman: I know. |
| 21:18.47 | efaistos | stew: it was this fuck*ù*$! ati driver !!! |
| 21:19.05 | efaistos | with vesa it launched it ... |
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| 21:20.46 | efaistos | stew: how does it come that the ati by default it's not working ? |
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| 21:21.59 | efaistos | stew: and with vesa it's slower under X ... |
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| 21:23.07 | efaistos | stew: do you have any suggestion about that ? |
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| 21:23.39 | no0ke | what's the debian thing that's using bsd kernel? |
| 21:23.46 | stew | efaistos: i don't. the ati driver has been working fine for me (to be sure, we're talking about ati, not fglrx, right?). check the bts if you haven't already |
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| 21:23.57 | cat | no0ke: debian-bsd i belived |
| 21:24.02 | drasko | hi all... I have GForce 2 and I am using nv driver. Still, all the letters seems kind of blurry, also, maximal resolution I can set is 1024x768. How to fix these issues? |
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| 21:24.33 | Dorfl | Pardon, I'm looking for a console utility to locate wifi access points [eg for use in coffee shops with hotspots] please. |
| 21:24.33 | fatfreddie | stew: alright, i pasted Xorg.0.log, it is #2552. |
| 21:24.44 | kevin_ | Greetings, I keep getting intermittent gzip errors when I run apt-get, anyone know why? |
| 21:24.57 | johnsu01 | Dorfl: Kismet |
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| 21:25.14 | efaistos | stew: yes we're talking about ati and not about the notfree ones ... |
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| 21:25.23 | otti | n irc.kunstlabor.at |
| 21:25.27 | kevin_ | someone said this might be a dansguardian issue, but it doesn't always happen at the same addresses |
| 21:25.29 | Dorfl | johnsu01: Will that work on a console-only system? I have no Desktops installed. |
| 21:25.34 | johnsu01 | Dorfl: yep. |
| 21:25.44 | Dorfl | johnsu01: Thank you much! |
| 21:25.46 | jair | stew: I will need to build the iso :( |
| 21:25.47 | beardy | no0ke: /msg dpkg debian gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 21:27.07 | efaistos | stew: the xserver-xorg-video-ati is the one that should be used ? |
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| 21:28.35 | mirak | I need to use debuild to compile a .deb source package ? |
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| 21:29.36 | stew | mirak: /msg dpkg source |
| 21:29.37 | stew | efaistos: yes |
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| 21:30.17 | efaistos | weird |
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| 21:30.31 | mirak | stew: thanks |
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| 21:32.36 | tarzeau | http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/woody/woody.gif |
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| 21:33.07 | mirak | stew: I modified the source code, should I use a patch preferably ? |
| 21:33.51 | stew | fatfreddie: i could swear i had heard about that problem before and that it had been fixed, but i'm not sure, if you haven't already, check the bts |
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| 21:33.56 | stew | mirak: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 21:34.29 | mirak | stew: I am adding fuse support to libpam_mount |
| 21:35.04 | efaistos | stew: just looked with apt-listbugs and nothing for this two packages ... |
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| 21:35.14 | stew | mirak: you have a patch that you want to apply, or you are editing the code yourself and you want to create a patch? |
| 21:35.16 | lostson | liens |
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| 21:35.24 | AMB | beardy: yes, the | was exactly what i was looking for. it works :) thx |
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| 21:35.35 | stew | lostson: stop |
| 21:35.36 | lostson | shit sorry bout that |
| 21:35.44 | fatfreddie | stew: alright, thanks a lot. |
| 21:35.58 | nse | haueauea.. wtf |
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| 21:36.19 | mirak | stew: I am not satisfied with the actual thing. If you ar a user you can't mount with command mount, and if the mouting happen by root it mounts as root, which not the point of fuse, so I add a "sudo -u USER mount.fuse" |
| 21:36.28 | drasko | hi all... I have GForce 2 and I am using nv driver. Still, all the letters seems kind of blurry, also, maximal resolution I can set is 1024x768. How to fix these issues? |
| 21:36.32 | RichiH | lostson: .. |
| 21:36.33 | exist | stew, i try everything about pptpd. but cant stop it to add route auto. |
| 21:36.35 | mirak | stew: I edited the code and will make a patch probably |
| 21:37.17 | Daedalus_ | drasko:get a better monitor |
| 21:37.23 | lostson | had the wrong channel up when i did that |
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| 21:37.24 | mirak | stew: the modification seems not to bring a security flaw |
| 21:37.25 | stew | mirak: if you are going to make a patch, copy the original source to a .orig directory, then run diff -ru blah-version.org blah-version ; to generate a patch |
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| 21:37.53 | drasko | Daedalus_, SAMSUNG SyncMaster 710v. |
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| 21:38.02 | drasko | I think it is very good. |
| 21:38.14 | stew | exist: if you can't make it stop adding the route, maybe you can remove it in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d? |
| 21:38.24 | mirak | stew I need to redownload the original source, thanks for the help |
| 21:38.43 | AMB | drasko, just change the fonts... most of them suck |
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| 21:39.55 | stoned | hi, wake n bake] |
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| 21:40.37 | fourat | anyone experienced problems with SATA drives ? errors like this : ata1: command 0x25 timeout, stat 0x50 host_stat 0x4 |
| 21:40.42 | mirak | stew: should I change the version ? |
| 21:40.52 | chaedaeX__ | i thought the purpose of the system V init system was to control running of services. why do so many debian packages have an option like "enabled=true" in a conf file in /etc/default? |
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| 21:41.39 | chaedaeX__ | is the intention to never have to disable rc services again? is SysV being superceeded? |
| 21:41.41 | drasko | AMB, they suck for gnome, for browser, for any application. How to change this all at once? |
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| 21:42.26 | AMB | drasko, i don't know. in kde it's easy to change them. i use microsoft's tahoma and it's lovely |
| 21:42.38 | stew | mirak: yes, for your own purposes, you should probabaly give your version a NMU version number, run "dch --nmu" from the source directory, and if the version number was something like 1.2.3-1 make it 1.2.3-1.1mirak or 1.2.3-1.1+fuse or something |
| 21:43.01 | stew | mirak: then after you install your local version you will likely want to put your local version on hold, /msg dpkg hold |
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| 21:44.01 | mirak | stew: that's strange, there seems to be way more differences than I really did the code in the patch |
| 21:44.28 | stew | mirak: run "fakeroot debian/rules clean" before creating the patch |
| 21:44.49 | myboxen | stew: got the udev stuff to work, however 90% of google was useless |
| 21:45.13 | stew | myboxen: ading "someparameter=0" to the modprobe line? |
| 21:45.14 | myboxen | stew: as usual debian follows a more standard set of rules which happens to not always be the majority |
| 21:45.21 | chaedaeX__ | drasko: did you try running switch or switch2 to set the GTK(2) fonts? |
| 21:45.36 | stew | myboxen: yay for debian! |
| 21:45.43 | myboxen | stew: no, added to the /etc/udev/links.conf file |
| 21:45.45 | mirak | stew: ok seems it did differences on the unclean source, with .o and stuffs, I need to clean I guess |
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| 21:46.31 | myboxen | example line I had to add, 'M vmnet1 c 119 1' without the quotes |
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| 21:46.47 | drasko | chaedaeX__, I do nt know what that means.. |
| 21:47.03 | mirak | stew: if this reverted the patches I think I have wrecked everything :-/ |
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| 21:47.04 | drasko | chaedaeX__, how to do this? |
| 21:47.20 | myboxen | stew: it took quite a bit of playing, but I finally figured it out. Most other testing actually ended up crashing X, or other stuff. It is a very sensative file. |
| 21:47.22 | chaedaeX__ | drasko: install gtk-theme-switch |
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| 21:48.22 | myboxen | stew: anyway I thought you might want to know how I resolved it. just in case you need it, or it comes up. |
| 21:48.34 | mirak | stew: ok no, it seems fine |
| 21:49.13 | drasko | chaedaeX__, and now? |
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| 21:51.09 | abrotman | !tell Saais about away |
| 21:51.11 | abrotman | again .... |
| 21:52.30 | mirak | stew: then I just put my patch as dpatch in it ? |
| 21:53.11 | drasko | chaedaeX__, I got it... But still, all the fonts look kind of wier. I mean, it's close, but still look much better on wondoze. Can it be the resolution? Or nv driver? I do not know.. |
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| 21:53.39 | chaedaeX__ | drasko: what's wrong with the fonts? |
| 21:54.16 | chaedaeX__ | drasko: it wouldn't be the nv driver. maybe it could be rendering options. did you try dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig (or defoma) ? |
| 21:54.31 | efaistos | someone has some problem with the ati driver in sid or testing with Xorg ? |
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| 21:55.49 | sid | efaistos: I have an ati card and I use sid/xorg works great. |
| 21:56.07 | AMB | drasko, either get used to them or get windows core fonts (they're packaged somewhere AFAIR). i had this problem on other distros too... |
| 21:57.29 | drasko | ABM, oh... yes, I remember that I used to install mscorefonts on Deb earlier... It might be that. I'll try it now. |
| 21:57.51 | kingcuritiba | STEW, KSPATH, ASG & others: Thanks a lot!! Now, i'm with MySql 5 on Debian 3.1 running perfectly!! |
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| 21:58.20 | sid | What is a good alternative to Norton Ghost that is free software? |
| 21:58.31 | kspath | kingcuritiba: stew and asg and others helped a lot more than I. I was only hinting at some things. |
| 21:59.16 | liable | sid: partimage is similar |
| 21:59.25 | kingcuritiba | no no =) everybody help me!! thanks a lot!! now, i'll "enjoy" a little bit the mysql 5 at debian ;) |
| 22:00.01 | abrotman | mysql runs perfectly? |
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| 22:01.33 | kingcuritiba | mysql 5 is running perfectly on my computer now! |
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| 22:01.50 | shogunx | abrotman the mysql 5 i'm building my ecom db on runs perfectly, tho it has not had a huge load yet. |
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| 22:01.54 | kingcuritiba | i don't know exactly about if is a stable version! probably not! |
| 22:01.57 | abrotman | shogunx: pgsql! |
| 22:02.09 | abrotman | shogunx: did you see vin`'s comments about 915? |
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| 22:02.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: moo |
| 22:02.15 | efaistos | sid: what card and which driver ? |
| 22:02.23 | abrotman | tarzeau: Mow |
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| 22:02.35 | shogunx | abrotman no i did not see his comments. here or bts? |
| 22:02.37 | marco13185 | in what folder are gcc's header files |
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| 22:02.45 | marco13185 | I want to add a few .h files |
| 22:02.46 | abrotman | shogunx: here .. /lastlog vin` |
| 22:03.32 | mirak | in the debian folder, where do I say to apply a particular patch ? |
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| 22:03.55 | shogunx | gives me your last two comments w/ his name in. |
| 22:04.18 | abrotman | shogunx: you need longer backscroll |
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| 22:04.34 | shogunx | abrotman, yep. |
| 22:04.41 | marco13185 | in what folder are gcc's header files |
| 22:04.41 | shogunx | apparently so. |
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| 22:05.21 | shogunx | abrotman please please msg me with the lastlog:) |
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| 22:09.00 | Kinks | what are a few graphical resource monitors? I'm having trouble finding one.. |
| 22:09.30 | abrotman | shogunx: got it? |
| 22:10.04 | abrotman | Kinks: for gnome? kde ? |
| 22:10.12 | shogunx | ya. sweet. thanx abrotman. |
| 22:10.20 | Kinks | something that'll run without both on X |
| 22:10.25 | Kinks | I'm just using fluxbox |
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| 22:11.00 | nkuttler | Kinks: apt-cache search dockapp for a start |
| 22:11.22 | abrotman | Kinks: i know gdesklets has a bunch .. lots of people use gkrellm too |
| 22:11.47 | abrotman | i have no idea what the kde equivalent is |
| 22:13.07 | Kinks | hm alright, thanks |
| 22:13.36 | Ronin | Kinks: do you consider torsmo graphical or term? |
| 22:14.00 | Ronin | personally i say term but it certainly runs nicely on all |
| 22:15.04 | Kinks | I'd consider that graphical, and I like it too. |
| 22:17.06 | kevin_ | !automatix |
| 22:17.46 | Daedalus_ | !lart kevin_ |
| 22:17.58 | Daedalus_ | ... |
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| 22:18.02 | Daedalus_ | Kinky |
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| 22:20.02 | x`y`-xy | i trying to restart apache and i recive the next msg : |
| 22:20.06 | x`y`-xy | Forcing reload of web server: Apache2apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName |
| 22:20.06 | x`y`-xy | apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName |
| 22:20.18 | x`y`-xy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.22 | tarzeau | !hosts |
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| 22:20.42 | kspath | x`y`-xy: #apache |
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| 22:20.49 | tarzeau | kspath: it's not related to apache |
| 22:20.56 | tarzeau | kspath: he just doesn't know how /etc/hosts work |
| 22:21.06 | tarzeau | !nickometer x`y`-xy |
| 22:21.08 | dpkg | 'x`y`-xy' is 80.000% lame, tarzeau |
| 22:21.09 | kspath | tarzeau: apache error message |
| 22:21.23 | tarzeau | !hostname |
| 22:21.23 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 22:21.25 | Meaw | hello guys , im gettin this message while im installing/removing freeradius servre |
| 22:21.25 | Meaw | Stopping FreeRADIUS daemon: freeradiusinvoke-rc.d: initscript freeradius, action "restart" failed. |
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| 22:21.57 | kspath | Meaw: Sarge/Stable? debian freeradious package? |
| 22:21.59 | myboxen | stew: I am using firefox, and just added the flash plugin. It says it installed, but firefox is still not recognizing it. Is there something I need to be doing manually. I googled, and couldn't find anything that appeared to be like my prob. |
| 22:22.06 | Meaw | kspath yes |
| 22:22.31 | Kinks | myboxen: what directory did you install it to? |
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| 22:22.50 | kspath | Meaw: package name? |
| 22:22.52 | myboxen | I didn't, I used aptitude |
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| 22:23.03 | Kinks | ah |
| 22:23.09 | Meaw | kspath : freeradius_1.1.0-1.1_i386.deb |
| 22:23.21 | myboxen | gime a sec to updatedb, and ill tell you. |
| 22:23.27 | zero_analog | I'm setting up a debian syslog-ng server for centralized logs -- is there a way to make an entire file system (/var/log) append-only, other than using chattr -a ??? |
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| 22:23.38 | kspath | Meaw: Can you repeat the issue? |
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| 22:23.58 | Meaw | kspath what you mean? |
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| 22:24.19 | myboxen | macromedia's link btw is pooched if anyone cares. Ive been telling them for more than a month to fix it. |
| 22:24.22 | myboxen | they won't |
| 22:24.37 | kspath | Meaw: If the people that would have to view a bug report be able to see the same error the first time they install and remove using apt? |
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| 22:24.45 | teknoprep | hi all |
| 22:24.47 | myboxen | it makes it impossible to install flash from any browser that says "get the plugin" or even from their website. |
| 22:24.50 | Meaw | noe kspath |
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| 22:24.54 | Meaw | it was working fine |
| 22:24.54 | sortadi | myboxen: i did the firefox thingy directly from firefox |
| 22:25.03 | myboxen | how long ago? |
| 22:25.04 | sortadi | myboxen: and it suit me quite smooth |
| 22:25.15 | sortadi | myboxen: a couple days ago |
| 22:25.17 | Meaw | kspath i just remove it yesterday and im trying to install it today, im getting this error |
| 22:25.19 | teknoprep | i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk |
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| 22:25.22 | teknoprep | what to do? |
| 22:25.28 | Meaw | Adding group `freerad' (106)... |
| 22:25.28 | Meaw | Done. |
| 22:25.29 | Meaw | freerad : freerad |
| 22:25.29 | Meaw | Stopping FreeRADIUS daemon: freeradiusinvoke-rc.d: initscript freeradius, action "restart" failed. |
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| 22:25.33 | myboxen | sortadi: I can't get it to work. even from here https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/plugins/ |
| 22:25.40 | teknoprep | the other HDD are hde and hdg |
| 22:25.40 | myboxen | click on the linux link |
| 22:25.43 | myboxen | you'll see what I mean |
| 22:25.50 | Kinks | myboxen: it's working fine for me |
| 22:25.57 | myboxen | the link? |
| 22:25.57 | Meaw | sorry |
| 22:26.00 | Kinks | http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz <- that |
| 22:26.01 | sortadi | myboxen: i did it directly from the pop-up windows |
| 22:26.01 | kspath | Meaw: Document everything in preparation to do a bug report. |
| 22:26.10 | myboxen | I tried, it said it failed. |
| 22:26.12 | sortadi | myboxen: in firefox telling you to install the plugins |
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| 22:26.18 | sortadi | weird |
| 22:26.24 | sortadi | myboxen: which debian flavour? |
| 22:26.26 | myboxen | aye, fpdownload won't work for me. |
| 22:26.31 | myboxen | however just download will |
| 22:26.32 | kspath | Meaw: That same information will double as something you can pastebin for anyone attempting to help you. |
| 22:26.36 | myboxen | testing |
| 22:26.46 | sortadi | myboxen: that's the one i am using |
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| 22:26.58 | Meaw | kspath would it be to a bug ? , it may be init.d problem |
| 22:27.03 | Meaw | ok i'll post it |
| 22:27.23 | myboxen | well then it is me, and for somereason I can't get it from fpdownload.macromedia.com. It needs to be download.macromedia.com |
| 22:27.30 | kspath | Meaw: The installer or remove should deal with scripts it added/removed from /etc/init.d/ |
| 22:27.40 | teknoprep | anyone on my HDD recognition problems? |
| 22:27.51 | teknoprep | anyone on my HDD recognition problems? |
| 22:27.56 | teknoprep | sorry for repeat |
| 22:28.23 | sortadi | myboxen: so you can do ftp transactions? |
| 22:28.27 | sortadi | *can't |
| 22:28.37 | myboxen | ? |
| 22:29.23 | SerajewelKS | is it possible to send amarok's playing audio to an icecast2 server? |
| 22:29.28 | Meaw | ok, kspath here is the link of the paste http://pastebin.com/719669 |
| 22:29.34 | kspath | Meaw: The only thing I can think of is dependencies did not get removed |
| 22:29.49 | teknoprep | am i able to be heard here? |
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| 22:30.41 | Dorfl | Hello again. I just tried Kismet for detecting wifi access hotspots, but it won't work with ndiswrapper wifi drivers? Is there an alternative please? |
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| 22:31.11 | Meaw | kspath have u read the paste |
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| 22:31.24 | liable | Dorfl: read the docs, it says it does work with ndiswrapper |
| 22:31.36 | teknoprep | Dorfl do you play wow |
| 22:31.38 | teknoprep | ? |
| 22:32.00 | Dorfl | liable: In the sources list, it said that it wouldn't work with any ndiswrappered drivers. I coulda sworn. |
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| 22:32.06 | Dorfl | teknoprep: Yes, but not under this name. |
| 22:32.10 | teknoprep | ahh |
| 22:32.11 | Kinks | myboxen: that link only worked for me the first time I clicked it, but yes, download.macromedia.com works. |
| 22:32.16 | teknoprep | somone does on Archimonde |
| 22:32.19 | Kinks | weird though... |
| 22:32.20 | teknoprep | with your name |
| 22:32.44 | myboxen | yup |
| 22:32.51 | Hagfish | i get "http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)" even though the 2006 key is in my trusted.gpg |
| 22:32.57 | myboxen | the only part that ticks me off is they won't fix the link |
| 22:33.02 | kspath | Meaw: Not sure if that error is meaningless or not. Can you manually start/stop freeradius? |
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| 22:33.08 | myboxen | its been a month or more, email, phone calls, etc |
| 22:33.14 | myboxen | they must really hate linux |
| 22:33.20 | brosioz | hi anyone known a gui editor for mp3 to cut songs ? |
| 22:33.21 | myboxen | s/linux/linux users/ |
| 22:33.29 | manuel_ | some one can help me install skype in ubuntu? |
| 22:33.29 | Kinks | I downloaded it within the last month without fiddling with anything though. -shrugs- |
| 22:33.53 | kspath | myboxen: linux is still only a smallish market share. They do not have to care yet. |
| 22:33.59 | Kinks | manuel_: #ubuntu |
| 22:33.59 | teknoprep | j #gentoo |
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| 22:34.22 | kspath | manuel_: This is #debian. |
| 22:34.30 | myboxen | not imho |
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| 22:34.47 | manuel_ | this is ubuntu like debian |
| 22:35.00 | abrotman | manuel_: ask #ubuntu |
| 22:35.01 | kspath | manuel_: This is NOT #ubuntu. |
| 22:35.02 | pipeline | manuel_: Tough shit. Try #ubuntu. |
| 22:35.33 | liable | Dorfl: my apologies, you are right |
| 22:35.53 | liable | Dorfl: i must have been thinking of wpasupp |
| 22:36.12 | Dorfl | liable: It happens. Any suggestions? |
| 22:36.45 | abrotman | !moo |
| 22:36.45 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 22:36.47 | liable | Dorfl: theres wifi radar, but its prolly a front end for kismet |
| 22:37.08 | liable | !abrotmoo |
| 22:37.08 | dpkg | maaaan! I am abrotmoo, hear me man, I weigh twice as much as moon, I'm a man, eating grass, factoid gas comes out my ass. I'm a man, you are too; join us all! type !moo. |
| 22:37.20 | abrotman | why's everyone always picking on me ? |
| 22:37.31 | kspath | abrotman: You lack grounding? |
| 22:37.34 | teknoprep | hmm |
| 22:37.35 | liable | !comfort abrotman |
| 22:37.36 | dpkg | There, there, abrotman. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:37.37 | abrotman | i suppose |
| 22:37.38 | teknoprep | anyone on my HDD problem? |
| 22:37.38 | kspath | !tell abrotman about grounding |
| 22:37.44 | abrotman | dpkg: thank you |
| 22:37.44 | dpkg | pas de quoi, abrotman |
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| 22:38.07 | abrotman | kspath: you're bigger than the 10th planet |
| 22:38.22 | kspath | abrotman: dang it! You saw me. |
| 22:38.40 | abrotman | kspath = O .. 10th planet = . |
| 22:38.58 | Pmarc | how do I discover to which package a file belongs? with apt-file? |
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| 22:39.02 | kspath | hehehe |
| 22:39.07 | abrotman | !tell Pmarc about search |
| 22:39.12 | abrotman | Pmarc: which file? |
| 22:39.21 | kaltec | how do i add a kernel module? |
| 22:39.22 | kspath | Pmarc: apt-cache , apt-file , dpkg , |
| 22:39.39 | kspath | Pmarc: man dpkg |
| 22:40.01 | teknoprep | ? |
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| 22:40.12 | teknoprep | i mean just tell me to like f**k off or something |
| 22:40.14 | teknoprep | please |
| 22:40.29 | abrotman | eh ? |
| 22:40.33 | liable | wtf? |
| 22:40.45 | teknoprep | i have asked 2x's already |
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| 22:40.51 | kspath | teknoprep: You really want 798 nicks to tell you "to like f**k off or something" ? |
| 22:40.51 | teknoprep | so i am not repeating |
| 22:40.56 | teknoprep | i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk |
| 22:40.57 | teknoprep | yes |
| 22:40.59 | abrotman | teknoprep: load the modules in the correct order |
| 22:41.01 | row | How would I enable more than 8 loop devices in debian? I tried adding "options loop max_loop=12" to modules.conf and making sure loop module was loaded rmmod/modprobed it and also after a reboot I got no extra loop interfaces. |
| 22:41.17 | drasko | Hi all... How to fix font rendering in Debian (Gnome) |
| 22:41.37 | drasko | All font seems a bit distorded. |
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| 22:41.43 | teknoprep | the 3 HDD"s where recognized as... /dev/hde /dev/hdg and /dev/hdk |
| 22:41.55 | efaistos | stew: i finally found ... I commented the DRI entry in xorg.conf and i could launch X with ati driver |
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| 22:42.22 | teknoprep | hmm |
| 22:42.24 | teknoprep | cheers |
| 22:42.35 | teknoprep | i'll take that as the silent f**k off |
| 22:42.42 | abrotman | eh? |
| 22:42.48 | abrotman | i told you .. load them in the correct order |
| 22:42.51 | tarzeau | teknoprep: just ask again in 8 hours |
| 22:42.56 | teknoprep | ok |
| 22:43.05 | kspath | !tell teknoprep about mailing list |
| 22:43.07 | tarzeau | teknoprep: it's linux specific, you might want to try ##linux too |
| 22:43.27 | teknoprep | i did |
| 22:43.30 | teknoprep | they are talkikng politics |
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| 22:43.41 | kaltec | i am having a x loading issue; the loading is halted bec. of an error 'no core pointer' ... i found the fix on bugzilla, but the resolution is to load the 'mousedev' kernel module, and that it needs to be added to /etc/modules if i wanted it loaded at each boot. so my problem is i dont know how to load the kernel module... |
| 22:43.43 | liable | teknoprep: what says its hdk? |
| 22:43.58 | teknoprep | /var/log/messages |
| 22:44.02 | Pmarc | abrotman, tnx |
| 22:44.04 | mith | kaltec: man modprobe |
| 22:44.07 | drasko | anyone got also poor font rendering? |
| 22:44.21 | tarzeau | drasko: screenshots? |
| 22:44.22 | mith | drasko: welcome to linux |
| 22:44.31 | tarzeau | mith: mine's very nice |
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| 22:44.51 | stew | efaistos: glad you figured it out. can you please document it in http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 if its not already there? |
| 22:44.52 | mith | tarzeau: was it by default? |
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| 22:45.22 | drasko | tarzeau, well, it is almost there, but not like on windoze... Is it the way it is supposed? |
| 22:45.23 | kaltec | thanks mith |
| 22:45.29 | tarzeau | mith: i use gnustep software you know |
| 22:45.35 | teknoprep | dmesg | grep hd ->>> also shows hdk: WDC WD360GD-00FLC0, ATA DISK drive |
| 22:45.37 | Sepero | My problem compiling: -->"error: stl.h: No such file or directory". What package do I need to install?????????? |
| 22:45.42 | teknoprep | hmm |
| 22:45.44 | mith | tarzeau: last time I installed an x server on a debian box (not long before sarge's release while it was still testing) they still burned holes in my eyes with the default font rendering :P |
| 22:45.57 | tarzeau | drasko: there is so much software. what are you talking about ? |
| 22:46.06 | teknoprep | this makes no sense |
| 22:46.15 | tarzeau | mith: they didn't for me, for many years now |
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| 22:46.17 | liable | teknoprep: and fdisk -l /dev/hdk?? |
| 22:46.20 | drasko | tarzeau, Gnome |
| 22:46.22 | tarzeau | mith: what software do you use? |
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| 22:46.28 | mith | tarzeau: really? So did I, and I wouldn't have called that very nice |
| 22:46.33 | drasko | tarzeau, font in gnome, any app |
| 22:46.33 | tarzeau | drasko: hahaha... yeah i know what you mean |
| 22:46.39 | liable | !b-e Sepero |
| 22:46.39 | dpkg | Sepero: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
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| 22:46.53 | liable | !find stl.h |
| 22:46.53 | tarzeau | drasko: which gnome version? they've had gtk1, then gtk2. and still the worst file selector in universe |
| 22:46.56 | drasko | tarzeau, ? |
| 22:47.00 | mith | tarzeau: windows/os x have me spoiled as far as font rending goes, I guess. |
| 22:47.05 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'stl.h' (5 of 7): (/usr/include/Qstl.h) in devel/nana ;; (/usr/include/g++-3/stl.h) in libdevel/libstdc++2.10-dev ;; (/usr/lib/R/library/stats/html/stl.html) in math/r-base-html ;; (/usr/include/avifile-0.7/avm_stl.h) in devel/libavifile-0.7-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/libstlport4.6-dev/html/sgi_stl.html) in libdevel/libstlport4.6-dev. |
| 22:47.06 | tarzeau | drasko: no any gnome/gtk app only, and that's not so much |
| 22:47.08 | Sepero | liable: ? |
| 22:47.14 | mith | rendering |
| 22:47.17 | drasko | tarzeau, gtk2, man I just installed Debian Sarge... |
| 22:47.19 | tarzeau | mith: windows isn't that great |
| 22:47.27 | tarzeau | drasko: man gnome and gtk suck ass! |
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| 22:47.32 | teknoprep | liable nothing |
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| 22:47.33 | mith | tarzeau: no, but it's still leaps ahead of xfree's |
| 22:47.35 | tarzeau | drasko: i've been avoiding those for years, just like kde |
| 22:47.41 | tarzeau | mith: huh? |
| 22:47.44 | liable | Sepero: do you have build-essential |
| 22:47.55 | Sepero | liable: no |
| 22:47.58 | drasko | tarzeau, do you use GUI at all? |
| 22:47.58 | tarzeau | mith: you mean motif? xterm? |
| 22:48.04 | Sepero | liable: installing it now |
| 22:48.10 | Sepero | thanks dpkg |
| 22:48.11 | dpkg | no problem, Sepero |
| 22:48.15 | tarzeau | drasko: yes, http://io.debian.net/~tar/screenshots/emacs.app.png |
| 22:48.18 | mith | tarzeau: no, i mean things using xft/etc |
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| 22:48.20 | teknoprep | tek |
| 22:48.24 | teknoprep | hmm someone say tek |
| 22:48.29 | teknoprep | see if it highlights please |
| 22:48.37 | tarzeau | mith: maybe, but who uses that? |
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| 22:48.59 | mith | tarzeau: um, gtk/etc do? i might have the wrong tla there |
| 22:49.02 | mith | freetype |
| 22:49.23 | Sepero | liable: dpkg: crap, it's still not working |
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| 22:49.56 | Sepero | configure: error: This program requires STL to compile. Sorry. |
| 22:49.58 | Sepero | make: *** [config.status] Error 1 |
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| 22:50.16 | pipeline | tarzeau: Did you actually get emacs running on nextstep? :P |
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| 22:50.27 | tarzeau | pipeline: well openstep, yes |
| 22:50.46 | tarzeau | pipeline: but an old one: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/emacs.png |
| 22:50.49 | pipeline | tarzeau: Same difference. Jawesome. I didn't know *any* modern software built on openstep :P |
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| 22:51.02 | pipeline | emacs 18? tsk tsk |
| 22:51.05 | tarzeau | pipeline: wait that gnustep one was on gnustep... |
| 22:51.11 | teknoprep | $nick |
| 22:51.15 | teknoprep | %nick |
| 22:51.15 | Sepero | Trying to force a compile gives: "error: stl.h: No such file or directory". |
| 22:51.17 | tarzeau | pipeline: and robert's working hard on a new version which should be out like in a month |
| 22:51.30 | tarzeau | pipeline: but you know what's best? |
| 22:51.41 | pipeline | tarzeau: carbon emacs? :P |
| 22:51.49 | tarzeau | pipeline: i really miss nethack.app.... CARBON SUCKS! |
| 22:51.57 | pipeline | tarzeau: I knew I would get that reaction :) |
| 22:52.03 | tarzeau | pipeline: no, check this: http://www.roard.com/screenshots/etoile-shot3.png |
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| 22:52.14 | tarzeau | pipeline: do you notice anything? |
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| 22:52.54 | tarzeau | pipeline: if not i shall spank you teh blind! read the first article http://camaelon.blogspot.com/ |
| 22:53.31 | Cars_Suck | how do i mount a docking stations drives? DVD and FLOPPY |
| 22:53.39 | tarzeau | pipeline: please don't tell me the theme is nice, because it sucks! |
| 22:53.48 | tarzeau | pipeline: it's the graphics and rtfd support! |
| 22:54.06 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: using mount? |
| 22:54.11 | ronca | i am new to Linux itself and i miss auto-installs :( |
| 22:54.16 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: and some cars are very nice... |
| 22:54.26 | Cars_Suck | i guess so |
| 22:54.34 | Sepero | CC files with this: "#include <stl.h>" give me this "error: stl.h: No such file or directory". How do I install STL? |
| 22:54.43 | Cars_Suck | tarzeau, what is the commands i would use |
| 22:55.00 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: depends on the filesystem and device name |
| 22:55.16 | ronca | what is the easiest way to install anything?! |
| 22:55.19 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: and maybe the kernel version and if you use supermount or not |
| 22:55.28 | Cars_Suck | i am ok |
| 22:55.37 | Cars_Suck | oops |
| 22:55.37 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: and you're right linux and dvd/cd/floppy sucks |
| 22:56.36 | Cars_Suck | tarzeau, i am such a linux newbie |
| 22:56.54 | ronca | me too...you're not alone! |
| 22:57.00 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: it doesn't matter |
| 22:57.11 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: mounting such media in linux still sucks |
| 22:57.14 | Sepero | CC files with this: "#include <stl.h>" give me this "error: stl.h: No such file or directory". How do I install STL? ANYONE? |
| 22:57.26 | tarzeau | Cars_Suck: especially if don't have root permission. and cd-r is even worse |
| 22:57.33 | ronca | i don't know?!P) |
| 22:57.38 | tarzeau | !STL |
| 22:57.39 | dpkg | well, stl is the Standard Template Library, or http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/ |
| 22:57.44 | grendal_prime | hhehehe mentoring a programmer. |
| 22:57.47 | grendal_prime | what i mean by that is..sure you build this for dayo, next daya then dayb then dayc, and next thing you know there connecting a missle to one of your websites for controll consistancy, and you realize....ooooo fuck, what about that possible xsitescripting exploit!!! |
| 22:57.51 | Cars_Suck | tarzeau, i am root |
| 22:58.17 | tarzeau | and i'm santa claus |
| 22:58.29 | Cars_Suck | sweet |
| 22:58.31 | Sepero | I have this, but it still fails: 6$ ls /usr/include/g++-3/stl.h |
| 22:58.33 | Sepero | /usr/include/g++-3/stl.h |
| 22:58.40 | Cars_Suck | lol |
| 22:58.59 | ronca | 6 bucks?! that's why it fails |
| 22:59.17 | ronca | it wan'ts more money |
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| 22:59.30 | Sepero | dpkg: Does debian have a package for the STL? |
| 22:59.52 | tarzeau | yes you can use STL with Debian |
| 23:00.16 | Sepero | tarzeau: What is the package name? |
| 23:00.40 | ronca | help though....i need to figure out how to install ANYTHING!! |
| 23:00.58 | bbrazil | ronca: apt-get install anything |
| 23:01.02 | kspath | !tell ronca about grounding |
| 23:01.14 | kspath | !tell ronca about reference |
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| 23:03.03 | dasunt | Where would I find a Debian Woody disk 1 iso for Sparc? |
| 23:03.29 | pipeline | tarzeau: Uhh, that much closer to a modern linux gnustep? :P |
| 23:04.05 | kspath | dasunt: You can try #debian-sparc as well There are also debian mailing lists. |
| 23:04.15 | kspath | !tell dasunt about mailing list |
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| 23:05.30 | dasunt | kspath: Googled the mailing lists, and found the old dists archives, but they didn't include isos, for some reason. |
| 23:06.12 | kspath | dasunt: I was attempting to point out to you that there are mailing lists which you can ask the same question. |
| 23:06.26 | kspath | dasunt: There is also the #debian-sparc channel you can try as well. |
| 23:06.43 | dasunt | kspath: In there now, but it is pretty idle. |
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| 23:07.49 | kspath | dasunt: You can try supporting that channel. |
| 23:07.56 | dasunt | I asked there. |
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| 23:08.46 | Sepero | Does debian have a package for the STL? |
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| 23:08.57 | teknoprep | hmm |
| 23:08.59 | teknoprep | hde: WDC WD360GD-00FLC0, ATA DISK drive |
| 23:09.06 | teknoprep | i have installed a raid card on a debian box... 2.6.8 kernel... when it goes to recognize that 3rd HDD... its hdk... i don't have a /dev/hdk |
| 23:09.17 | nima | how do i check remaining drive space? |
| 23:09.18 | teknoprep | someone said change order of modules at boot time |
| 23:09.20 | teknoprep | yeah ok |
| 23:09.33 | colde89 | is it possible to change with phpmyadmin all tables? I have a sql-file from an old database and would put these tables in a new one. |
| 23:10.34 | kspath | colde89: Did I get into a mysql or php IRC channel? |
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| 23:11.41 | Vme | hello |
| 23:11.56 | Vme | Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03) |
| 23:12.09 | Vme | is there anyway to get this PCI card working? |
| 23:13.06 | stew | colde89: you just want to load tables in a sql file into a new database? do you have shell access? |
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| 23:13.33 | Doctor | hey whats a good way to remove newline chars from the end of something in a shell script? |
| 23:14.19 | kspath | Doctor: This is #debian not a shell scripting help channel. Look at tr command. |
| 23:14.44 | stew | Doctor: you want to remove one newline character at the end? or all the newline characters or what? |
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| 23:14.55 | Sepero | Does debian have a package for the STL? |
| 23:15.06 | kspath | Sepero: apt-cache search STL |
| 23:15.08 | stew | Sepero: the standard template library? |
| 23:15.21 | bbrazil | stew: apt-file search stl_tree.h |
| 23:15.24 | Doctor | all of them, I was using cut but thats only if its constant |
| 23:15.25 | bbrazil | Sepero: ^ |
| 23:15.26 | colde89 | stew: i use phpmyadmin |
| 23:15.27 | Sepero | stew: yes |
| 23:15.37 | Sepero | kspath: I did, it's incomprehensible. |
| 23:15.40 | Vme | does anyone know of a good NDIS howto? |
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| 23:16.04 | fish1209 | Vme it comes with a readme :P |
| 23:16.04 | Sepero | stew: thanks |
| 23:16.09 | stew | Sepero: what bbrazil said, /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 23:16.21 | stew | Vme: /msg dpkg ndiswrapper one-liner |
| 23:16.41 | Sepero | $ apt-file search stl_tree.h |
| 23:16.48 | Sepero | It returned nothing |
| 23:16.56 | stew | Doctor: tr -d \\n |
| 23:17.01 | kspath | Sepero: apt-file update; apt-file search stl_tree.h |
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| 23:18.15 | Sepero | kspath: I'm not using REAL debian. I'm using Mepis. So unfortunately update's not gonna do it. |
| 23:18.23 | kspath | Doctor: man tr to learn many nice things the command can do. |
| 23:18.33 | beardy | !mepis |
| 23:18.33 | dpkg | somebody said mepis was a Debian Unstable-based liveCD distribution similar to Knoppix, with its own hardware detection system that uses KDE and includes NVIDIA proprietary 3D driver. See http://www.mepis.org and/or visit #mepis and ask me about <Based On Debian> |
| 23:18.39 | kspath | Sepero: Good luck. |
| 23:18.49 | stew | Sepero: please ask mepis related questions in #mepis |
| 23:19.15 | Sepero | stew: Wrong. Mepis people don't know jack. |
| 23:19.27 | stew | Sepero: try a mailing list then |
| 23:19.40 | kspath | Sepero: You are not on Debian so therefore #debian is not the place to ask. |
| 23:19.42 | beardy | Sepero: Or run something which has people that do. |
| 23:20.02 | Sepero | lol |
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| 23:20.42 | Sepero | http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages searching for stl_tree.h |
| 23:21.16 | kspath | Sepero: paste of URL for what purpose? |
| 23:21.25 | Doctor | kspath: already done thanks |
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| 23:21.44 | Sepero | I'm doing my file search on the debian website |
| 23:21.54 | Doctor | tr -d "\n\r" both since I'm dealling with internet stuff |
| 23:22.52 | Sepero | I've got all of those packages installed, except the pocketpc one. |
| 23:23.11 | stew | Sepero: please just go to #mepis |
| 23:23.33 | Vme | does anyone know the source.list lines for ndiswrapper? :) |
| 23:23.37 | Vme | i'm running SID |
| 23:23.40 | Sepero | :( |
| 23:23.52 | Vme | actually etch |
| 23:24.01 | stew | Vme: /msg dpkg why is ndiswrapper-source not in testing |
| 23:24.07 | stew | Vme: you'll have to get it from unstable for now |
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| 23:24.24 | Sepero | join #mepis |
| 23:24.28 | Sepero | oops |
| 23:24.33 | VT_Deadhead | hmm ... i think i'm running into X11 fonts problems in unstable ... xboard is crashing with a "BadName (named color or font does not exist)" error ... any ideas on how to debug this? |
| 23:25.22 | stew | VT_Deadhead: does /etc/X11/rgb.txt exist? |
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| 23:26.22 | VT_Deadhead | aye |
| 23:26.44 | beardy | Great to save one error message and combine font and color, makes it so much easier.. |
| 23:27.34 | VT_Deadhead | nothing funky set in my .Xdefaults either ... i'm attempting to reproduce this on my ibook (running sid) |
| 23:27.45 | stew | VT_Deadhead: checked the bts for xboard? |
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| 23:29.27 | Seb_ | sup y'all |
| 23:30.11 | Seb_ | can anyone recommend an app functionnaly equivalent to gqview, but more customizable, say for rotating pics and all... gqview doesn't have kb shortcuts or anything... |
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| 23:30.34 | VT_Deadhead | nothing in bts ... will restart X shortly to see if that fixes anything |
| 23:31.15 | kspath | Seb_: By stateing your question in that way you are limiting responses to those that have used/know gqview or those willing to try it. |
| 23:32.06 | kspath | Seb_: Did you want to try apt-cache search picture or the like? |
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| 23:34.30 | Seb_ | kspath: well no, I'd rather get a good recommendation :( |
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| 23:34.30 | Seb_ | hrm i meant :) |
| 23:34.31 | Seb_ | cause there are tons of image viewers |
| 23:35.00 | Seb | so, lemme rephrase: what's a good image viewer that also has basic editing capabilities like rotating for instance ? |
| 23:35.00 | kspath | Seb: Maybe describe the purpose of gqview or what you want the application to be able to do. |
| 23:35.28 | stew | kspath: he did |
| 23:35.42 | Inazad | Anyone can help to connect to an ftp using SSL.. and need Secure Listing... ??? |
| 23:35.49 | kspath | Seb: try apt-cache search "image viewer" |
| 23:35.55 | kspath | stew: I know. hehehe |
| 23:36.04 | abrotman | Seb: eog |
| 23:36.04 | Azar | I use feh and imagemagick |
| 23:36.12 | stew | kspath: you want him to restate what he wants? why? |
| 23:36.47 | kspath | stew: I asked that almost concurrent to what he asked again in a much better format. To help him/her/ . |
| 23:37.14 | Azar | if I could code I'd rewrite all old good dos games for linux |
| 23:37.18 | VT_Deadhead | um ... gqview has keyboard shortcuts for every action i believe |
| 23:37.20 | abrotman | so learn |
| 23:37.20 | Bobakitoo | is d-link dwl-g510 a good wireless card for linux? it use module wlan, wlan_wep, ath_pci, ath_rate_sample witch are marked experimental in 2.6 |
| 23:37.28 | abrotman | which |
| 23:37.32 | Azar | abrotman: yes I try to learn |
| 23:37.47 | Azar | magic towers for example |
| 23:37.51 | abrotman | Azar: look at SDL .. i've heard it's pretty easy .. or pygame |
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| 23:37.59 | nekostar | \o/ |
| 23:38.01 | nekostar | !bind |
| 23:38.01 | dpkg | i guess bind is the Berkeley Internet Name Daemon, a DNS server; see http://www.isc.org/view.cgi?/products/BIND/index.phtml, or read the brilliant docs at http://www.nominum.com/resources/documentation/Bv9ARM.pdf. |
| 23:38.12 | VT_Deadhead | [, ] rotates image in gqview |
| 23:38.16 | Seb | kspath: him, please :> |
| 23:38.19 | stew | kspath: but he clearly stated what he was looking for in the first place |
| 23:38.25 | Seb | VT_Deadhead: but it doesn't change the image does it ? |
| 23:38.34 | kspath | Seb: Did you see how many nice answers you got based on the more descriptive question? |
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| 23:38.38 | abrotman | Seb: eog |
| 23:38.44 | abrotman | Seb: want me to say it a few more times ? :) |
| 23:38.51 | Seb | abrotman: no, was trying it just now :) |
| 23:38.58 | nekostar | ouch |
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| 23:39.04 | nekostar | neither of those links work... |
| 23:39.04 | kspath | stew: In the first place gqview assumed people knew gqview or were willing to learn about it. |
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| 23:39.07 | Seb | abrotman: core dumped twice on me though ;) |
| 23:39.14 | nekostar | can anyone point me in a good direction for binding ip's ? |
| 23:39.16 | abrotman | Seb: since i didn't see your original request .. i don't know exactly what you're looking for |
| 23:39.19 | abrotman | Seb: are you on sid ? |
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| 23:39.26 | Seb | abrotman: yeah |
| 23:39.49 | abrotman | Seb: check the bts |
| 23:39.54 | VT_Deadhead | Seb: no .. i think it's just for viewing ... i recommend imagemagick for bulk editing |
| 23:39.56 | Seb | abrotman: will do |
| 23:39.57 | Inazad | Anyone can help to connect to an ftp using SSL.. and need Secure Listing... ??? |
| 23:40.09 | stew | kspath: no, it didn't, he made it clear that he wanted something to rotate images using kb shortcuts. and even if you didn't understand from that, you could apt-cache show gqview, or just assume that this question isn't for you |
| 23:40.30 | Seb | VT_Deadhead: i assigned custom commands in gqview to rotate pics, works fine, but I can't seem to bind a kb shortcut to those... |
| 23:40.39 | abrotman | Seb: what kind of pictures? |
| 23:40.46 | Seb | abrotman: jpegs only |
| 23:41.03 | abrotman | Seb: hrm .. i use it a lot .. on jpgs .. works fine |
| 23:41.04 | vinyl | hi there. i am running sid with the newest debian precompiled 686 kernel. the problem is, that i can't set dma for my ide-devices, cause ide-generic is loaded before the piix module. is there any way to change this behaviour besides compiling my own kernel with piix compiled monolithically? |
| 23:41.19 | kspath | stew: Great. That is your opinion. Noted. It was my opinion that asking without using the word gqview or at least be more descriptive might help. That was my opinion. |
| 23:41.26 | Seb | abrotman: i won't dismiss it before i check the bts anyway, it looks pretty cool |
| 23:41.59 | Seb | kspath, stew: there, there, you've both helped me out in your own way :) |
| 23:42.16 | kspath | stew: worst case, I brought more attention to the question. |
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| 23:42.49 | VT_Deadhead | well .. i restarted X, still no luck with xboard ... can anyone else running sid see if xboard dies? i'm running on 2.6.16-1-amd64-k8-smp |
| 23:42.56 | Mr_Molez | does anyone know how to make home directories not viewable by everyone ? |
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| 23:43.40 | abrotman | Mr_Molez: change the permissions |
| 23:43.52 | Mr_Molez | abrotman: no there is a way to do it with dpkg |
| 23:43.54 | Bobakitoo | Mr_Molez, chmod 750 ~/ |
| 23:43.58 | abrotman | eh .. |
| 23:44.09 | Mr_Molez | :-S |
| 23:44.20 | Mr_Molez | ok ill try that |
| 23:44.22 | Mr_Molez | thanks |
| 23:44.22 | nekostar | o: |
| 23:44.45 | nekostar | abrotman, u know everything i ask just about... know of a good resource on bind? the links from dpkg are not working :/ |
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| 23:45.23 | abrotman | !u |
| 23:45.24 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 23:45.31 | abrotman | nekostar: the Bind ARM covers quite a bit |
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| 23:45.47 | abrotman | which is one of the PDFs linked |
| 23:45.54 | unix_infidel | jimmy_, no jim. |
| 23:45.55 | nekostar | which doesnt seem to work |
| 23:46.02 | nekostar | *up |
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| 23:46.51 | beardy | Where did Jim (Jim_ ?) go? |
| 23:46.56 | sanmarcos | what is the + command for adding permissions to everyone ? it isnt a+ |
| 23:47.11 | Mr_Molez | chmod 750 made my own user not able to acces home directory |
| 23:47.21 | astronut | is there a console tool that will sort by lenght of string? |
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| 23:47.45 | sanmarcos | astronut: man sort |
| 23:48.00 | sanmarcos | astronut: you could do a loop, but see #bash |
| 23:48.02 | astronut | sanmarcos: i am reading it, didn'ts ee it |
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| 23:51.01 | Bobakitoo | Mr_Molez then your home is owned by some one else |
| 23:51.27 | drasko | Hi all. I just installed enlightenment, but it is not showed in my gdm sessions. How to log in to this desktop environment? |
| 23:51.30 | Mr_Molez | ls -l shows its owned by root |
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| 23:52.21 | teknoprep | how do i remove 2.6.8 safely? |
| 23:52.21 | Bobakitoo | Mr_Molez, that is worng, asuming you run debian, as root chown YOUR_USER:YOUR_USER /home/YOUR_HOME |
| 23:52.25 | beardy | drasko: Have you restarted gdm? |
| 23:53.01 | drasko | Yes, I rebooted the machine... |
| 23:53.06 | teknoprep | can i just apt-get remove kernel-image-2.6.8-3-386 |
| 23:53.45 | abrotman | why? |
| 23:53.53 | teknoprep | i want the 2.4 kernel |
| 23:53.54 | beardy | drasko: Ok, restarting ?dm would have been enough though. |
| 23:53.56 | Mr_Molez | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.03 | teknoprep | i'll just setup the grub.conf |
| 23:54.15 | Bobakitoo | Mr_Molez, that fine |
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| 23:54.22 | kspath | teknoprep: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4 ? |
| 23:54.33 | teknoprep | already have 2.4 installed |
| 23:54.43 | LSorensen | teknoprep: are you running 2.4 right now> |
| 23:55.05 | nekostar | wow |
| 23:55.11 | teknoprep | no 2.6 |
| 23:55.14 | teknoprep | i started with 2.4 |
| 23:55.16 | teknoprep | on debian |
| 23:55.19 | LSorensen | teknoprep: well reboot and select the 2.4 kernel |
| 23:55.20 | Bobakitoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.22 | nekostar | found a great doc on how-to-forge on bind ... |
| 23:55.26 | LSorensen | teknoprep: then remove the 2.6 kernel |
| 23:55.28 | teknoprep | yeah but i want the 2.4 by default |
| 23:55.29 | teknoprep | ahh ok |
| 23:55.30 | teknoprep | makes sense |
| 23:55.32 | nekostar | now to figure how to bind the ip's themselves >_< |
| 23:55.33 | LSorensen | teknoprep: don't remove the running kerne;l |
| 23:55.47 | teknoprep | yeah i know |
| 23:55.52 | LSorensen | teknoprep: not that I can imagine wanting to go back to 2.4, but oh well |
| 23:55.54 | teknoprep | just making sure thats what i should do |
| 23:56.05 | teknoprep | raid card not functioning properly in 2.6 |
| 23:56.12 | teknoprep | 3rd hdd not showing |
| 23:56.17 | LSorensen | teknoprep: which kind of card? |
| 23:56.18 | teknoprep | but if boot up in 2.4 it works fine |
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| 23:56.27 | teknoprep | HighPoint RocketRAID 1640 |
| 23:56.29 | a_thing | Is PHP5 in stable? |
| 23:56.31 | teknoprep | raid 5 config |
| 23:56.33 | LSorensen | teknoprep: hmm, odd. |
| 23:56.47 | teknoprep | yeah its trying to boot the 3rd HDD as /dev/hdk |
| 23:56.51 | teknoprep | but /dev/hdk doesn't exist |
| 23:56.57 | LSorensen | teknoprep: never worked with one, so not sure what the solution is. Personally I would try 2.6.16 from backports.org before I go back to 2.4 |
| 23:57.07 | teknoprep | hmm |
| 23:57.11 | LSorensen | teknoprep: did you create /dev/hdk entries? |
| 23:57.18 | teknoprep | how would i do that? |
| 23:57.19 | LSorensen | teknoprep: using MAKEDEV? |
| 23:57.23 | teknoprep | fdisk -l /dev/hdk |
| 23:57.25 | teknoprep | hmm |
| 23:57.29 | LSorensen | teknoprep: cd /dev; MAKEDEV ide5 |
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| 23:57.57 | teknoprep | /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "ide5" |
| 23:58.04 | LSorensen | teknoprep: if hdk shows in dmesg, then you are probably just missing the /dev entries. |
| 23:58.11 | LSorensen | teknoprep: hmm, I thought that was the name |
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| 23:58.13 | teknoprep | yes it show |
| 23:58.27 | nevyn | try hdk not ide5 |
| 23:58.36 | LSorensen | teknoprep: hmm, mine has an ide5 entry |
| 23:58.41 | teknoprep | hmm seems to work |
| 23:58.42 | chealer9 | !tell a_thing about php5 |
| 23:58.45 | teknoprep | will that be permanent? |
| 23:58.45 | LSorensen | teknoprep: how old is your makedev? |
| 23:58.51 | LSorensen | teknoprep: yep that is permanent |
| 23:59.05 | LSorensen | teknoprep: does fdisk -l work on it now? |
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| 23:59.21 | teknoprep | no |
| 23:59.22 | teknoprep | damn it |
| 23:59.28 | LSorensen | teknoprep: did it make /dev/hdk* ? |
| 23:59.33 | teknoprep | nope |
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| 23:59.53 | Azar | good day Mr LSorensen, how you keeping up with the rapid changes? |
| 23:59.59 | LSorensen | teknoprep: which version of makedev do you have? |
