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| 00:02.00 | jetscreamer | i have a question: how well might it work if you set up a computer with debian, in english, got it all set up properly, then changed the locales to -es. |
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| 00:02.22 | tonsofpcs | any ops awake? |
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| 00:02.33 | jetscreamer | my spanish isn't good |
| 00:02.37 | gravity | tonsofpcs: What do you need? |
| 00:02.44 | NeedHelp | Hello, is anyone about? |
| 00:02.49 | tonsofpcs | gravity - there's an onjoin spammer in here and #redhat |
| 00:03.03 | gravity | tonsofpcs: Who? |
| 00:03.07 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure {xdm|gdm|kdm|?dm} needs a nodm option |
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| 00:04.00 | gravity | tonsofpcs: Thanks |
| 00:04.07 | NeedHelp | Hello, is anyone about? |
| 00:04.11 | jetscreamer | no |
| 00:04.16 | NeedHelp | lol lol |
| 00:04.19 | tonsofpcs | yw |
| 00:04.21 | jetscreamer | we are a figment of your imagination |
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| 00:04.44 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 00:04.44 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 00:04.45 | NeedHelp | I am not sure if this is right place to ask, but I have what should be a dumb simple couple questions. |
| 00:04.52 | jetscreamer | ^^ |
| 00:05.21 | delire | NeedHelp: we all started with dumb questions. go for it. |
| 00:05.25 | jetscreamer | jsut ask |
| 00:05.25 | tonsofpcs | jetscreamer - but what if I want to know if someone uses it? ;) |
| 00:05.38 | jetscreamer | ask in #usesit ? |
| 00:05.46 | tonsofpcs | lol |
| 00:05.57 | NeedHelp | ok... the first is howhen one is in telnet using csh does one do the samer as ctrl-c to abort command. Searched high and low a for past 2.5 hours and still stumped |
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| 00:07.57 | _Atomo64_ | hey, how can I get a new IP? my ISP uses dhcp, so, there's any command to request a new IP? |
| 00:08.16 | nkuttler | _Atomo64_: dhclient |
| 00:08.18 | Phated | dhclient <interface> |
| 00:08.49 | NeedHelp | _Atombo64 has a yese/no answer, commands do exist, but you may get same ip back when request for IP Address is made again |
| 00:08.53 | stew | _Atomo64_: there isnt' a command to request a new ip. there is dhclient which will request an ip. you have no control over whether or not it will be a different ip than before |
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| 00:09.07 | Gnea | _Atomo64_: change your mac address or disconnect the system for a day or 3 |
| 00:09.29 | jetscreamer | depending on the isp, you can just unplug it for a bit and reconnect |
| 00:09.32 | jetscreamer | works for me |
| 00:09.37 | jetscreamer | but it's a big isp |
| 00:09.46 | NeedHelp | that works too. |
| 00:09.59 | Gnea | most cable co's extend leases, while dsl almost always gives a new ip everytime, by default |
| 00:10.12 | NeedHelp | again depends on timing... I have tried to get new ip from ISP at times and keep getting same one again once reconnect. |
| 00:10.36 | NeedHelp | anyone able to answer my telnet/csh question? |
| 00:11.01 | Gnea | i think you'd need to tell the dhcp client to shorten the lease, then release it, wait that amount of specified time, then try again |
| 00:11.43 | _Atomo64_ | and btw, two more things... first, which one is better? discover or discover1? the second thing is, my compiled kernel won't work anymore, I get a kernel panic because of an error loading the block device, this kernel uses ramfs and I applied the bootsplash patch, and yesterday I compiled the bootsplash package and it did some stuff... but now that happens, what can I do? |
| 00:12.08 | Gnea | _Atomo64_: use a debian kernel |
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| 00:12.31 | _Atomo64_ | Gnea: I compiled it from the kernel.source pack... |
| 00:12.35 | Gnea | NeedHelp: sorry, i'm a bash person |
| 00:12.43 | covbob | hi all |
| 00:12.53 | Gnea | _Atomo64_: so use a kernel-image/linux-image |
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| 00:12.59 | covbob | I want to overclock my PC but I heard that Linux crashes if you do |
| 00:13.07 | Gnea | covbob: then don't do it. |
| 00:13.12 | NeedHelp | ok, then I have a bash question for you Gnesa... have you ever used mkfifo in Bash? |
| 00:13.14 | covbob | is it true that only Windows has support for overclock PCs? |
| 00:13.15 | `DamN` | Gnea: ;-))) |
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| 00:13.33 | Gnea | covbob: no, linux can handle it, depending on the situation. your best bet is to google your hardware |
| 00:13.47 | `DamN` | covbob: you have any setbacks to try ? |
| 00:13.48 | _Atomo64_ | Gnea: but I _have_ to use that other kernel because I need some modules that I can't compile with the linux-image packs |
| 00:13.50 | covbob | ok, what's the addy for google? kkthx |
| 00:13.52 | Gnea | i've seen linux handle overclocking better than windows |
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| 00:14.06 | covbob | what's a setback? |
| 00:14.27 | Gnea | _Atomo64_: that's fine, but if it's failing, then you'll need to recompile until you get it right |
| 00:14.41 | _Atomo64_ | Gnea: it was working fine until yesterday |
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| 00:14.53 | Gnea | _Atomo64_: so? |
| 00:14.56 | covbob | also my mate told me that you can't get msoutlook for linux but i think hes liing can u help plz? |
| 00:15.19 | Gnea | covbob: msoutlook is strictly an ms application. |
| 00:15.22 | covbob | sorry im a real computer noob |
| 00:15.32 | _Atomo64_ | Gnea: that there must be something to do... that's why I'm _asking_ because It uses ramfs and bootsplash |
| 00:15.34 | covbob | so how do i get it for linux |
| 00:15.40 | Gnea | !tell covbob about newbie_guide |
| 00:15.44 | `DamN` | covbob: I think that each one program in w32 has alternative in linux , depends on you man |
| 00:15.58 | NeedHelp | simple fact if M$ then does not work in linux. |
| 00:15.59 | Gnea | _Atomo64_: i have no idea |
| 00:15.59 | _Atomo64_ | and well, what about my other question? discover or discover1? |
| 00:15.59 | covbob | if i cant get it i dont want to try linux im nervois of new programs |
| 00:16.12 | Gnea | NeedHelp: wine. |
| 00:16.26 | covbob | disocver is that like a guide for linux |
| 00:16.28 | drasko | hi. I am trying to make libmisc.a from Stevens APUE, and havig trouble: strerror.c:3: error: conflicting types for `sys_errlist' |
| 00:16.28 | covbob | hehehe |
| 00:16.28 | drasko | /usr/include/bits/sys_errlist.h:28: error: previous declaration of `sys_errlist'. Any ideas? |
| 00:16.49 | NeedHelp | covbob: try knoppix so you can get feet wet using Linux which will not install on your Windows PC and keep hard driver all read only. |
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| 00:17.13 | covbob | knoppix do i need to wipe windows |
| 00:17.29 | `DamN` | knoppix is live CD |
| 00:17.39 | covbob | whassat |
| 00:17.47 | NeedHelp | Gnesa: wine for running M$ Apps... no things... is a option for some windows programs, but I never been an emulation type. |
| 00:18.26 | Gnea | !wine |
| 00:18.26 | dpkg | somebody said wine was at http://www.winehq.com/ or #winehq. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
| 00:18.39 | NeedHelp | covbob: no need to wipe windows with knoppix, it runs right from cd and ram... it does not touch your hard drive |
| 00:18.45 | Gnea | !knoppix |
| 00:18.45 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. don't forget to ask me about <Based On Debian> |
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| 00:20.28 | NeedHelp | I suggested knoppix as way for covbob to get feel for open source bto let him see how easy be to use and not as hard as many think to use open source. |
| 00:20.37 | covbob | yeah thx |
| 00:20.39 | |ryan| | what's the current testing version? |
| 00:20.50 | covbob | whats open source is that like everyine wcan see on ur hard disc? |
| 00:20.58 | Gnea | covbob: no. |
| 00:21.01 | Gnea | !oss |
| 00:21.02 | dpkg | i guess oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very non-free and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the Halloween document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels. (See ALSA for 2.6 info).. OldSchoolSound |
| 00:21.05 | tethead | yes that's exactly what it is |
| 00:21.05 | NeedHelp | I guess nobody have used named pipes at command line with shell scripts? |
| 00:21.19 | kspath | !tell |ryan| about testing |
| 00:21.25 | kspath | !tell |ryan| about etch |
| 00:21.29 | AllenJB | I'm trying to install a ruby based program, but when I do "ruby18 setup.rb config" it bails out with "/usr/src/gorg-0.6.1/ext/gorg/xsl/extconf.rb:1:in `require': no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError) |
| 00:21.29 | AllenJB | " - The line in question reads "require mkmf" so I assume I'm missing a ruby module or something - What do I need to install to get this to work? |
| 00:21.30 | covbob | tethead o no! i dont want that |
| 00:21.35 | kspath | |ryan|: /msg dpkg testing |
| 00:21.37 | covbob | does this mean that windows is better |
| 00:21.39 | |ryan| | ah |
| 00:21.45 | tethead | no |
| 00:21.51 | amphi | covbob: of course |
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| 00:22.14 | NeedHelp | covbob: a matter of opinion, personally I will not use windows, too unstable and no way to get a fix if I want a fix. |
| 00:22.26 | EdLin | !ur |
| 00:22.26 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old |
| 00:22.37 | VolVE | Anyone know why adding a couple new HDs would cause not only Grub to hang, but also the Debian install CD... :-/ |
| 00:22.54 | Gnea | covbob: open source is, as opposed to closed source, where you can get the source code to a program in order to fix it if there's a problem, unlike microsoft, who won't let you see their code and will throw you in pound-me-in-the-ass prison if you try to look at it, it's free for anyone to make changes and contributions, but at the same time it is controlled |
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| 00:23.16 | EdLin | Gnea: he's gone |
| 00:23.28 | Gnea | tethead: FIRED!!! |
| 00:23.32 | Gnea | !troll tethead |
| 00:23.33 | |ryan| | hmmm |
| 00:23.35 | tethead | lol |
| 00:23.47 | tethead | because he asked a stupid question and got a stupid answer? |
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| 00:24.03 | Gnea | no, he asked a valid question and you gave him the wrong answer. |
| 00:24.08 | |ryan| | I'm trying to use debootstrab to install sid to a chroot.... keeps dieing with "E: Couldn't download base-config" |
| 00:24.09 | Gary | :) |
| 00:24.22 | |ryan| | anyone know what's wrong? |
| 00:24.29 | Gnea | !ops tethead is spreading lies about Open Source Software |
| 00:24.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: tethead is spreading lies about Open Source Software |
| 00:24.43 | tethead | lovely |
| 00:24.46 | mentor | hmm |
| 00:24.47 | tethead | bootme? |
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| 00:24.55 | Gnea | !SDNWOTN |
| 00:24.55 | dpkg | hmm... sdnwotn is Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Net |
| 00:25.08 | kspath | |ryan|: /msg dpkg debootstrap ; /msg dpkg unstable |
| 00:25.08 | gravity | Gnea: Stop abusing that factoid |
| 00:25.29 | Gnea | gravity: pardon me? i used it only once. get with the program. |
| 00:25.41 | gravity | Gnea: Calling me and others for no reason constitutes abuse |
| 00:25.42 | Gary | boot who hehe |
| 00:25.54 | Gnea | gravity: one moment. |
| 00:26.08 | mentor | Gnea: Do you have a jsutification of your claim? |
| 00:26.14 | _Atomo64_ | hey, when I try to install a patch I get "/var/lib/dpkg/info/sysv-rc-bootsplash.postinst: line 54: [: =: unary operator expected" that file is: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2600 |
| 00:26.37 | Gnea | gravity: 17:20 < covbob> whats open source is that like everyine wcan see on ur hard disc? 17:21 < tethead> yes that's exactly what it is 17:21 < covbob> tethead o no! i dont want that 17:22 -!- covbob [n=Graham@cpc1-basf3-0-0-cust737.nott.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] |
| 00:26.42 | Gnea | mentor: yes, i do. |
| 00:26.59 | gravity | ... |
| 00:27.25 | mentor | Gnea: I'm sorry, I don't really see your point. |
| 00:27.31 | |ryan| | kspath: I'm looking at a howto.... are you telling me somethings broken? |
| 00:27.42 | _Atomo64_ | stew: when I try to install a patch I get "/var/lib/dpkg/info/sysv-rc-bootsplash.postinst: line 54: [: =: unary operator expected" that file is: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2600 |
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| 00:28.07 | Gnea | mentor: there was a newbie, covbob, who was asking valid questions about something he knew nothing about, and some people gave him false information, and he believed it. |
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| 00:28.28 | Gnea | mentor: and this is okay with you? |
| 00:28.45 | Gnea | because it's obviously okay with gravity. |
| 00:28.47 | kspath | |ryan|: There is always something broken in sid/unstable. I am trying to give you the basic factoids about debootstrap and unstable in case you were aware of that information. |
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| 00:29.29 | kspath | |ryan|: That is not to say that what you are incorrecting is something broken or not. |
| 00:29.33 | Gnea | hey, scroll up and read it yourself if you don't believe me. |
| 00:29.42 | mentor | amphi is guilty of the same thing |
| 00:29.51 | gravity | Gnea: It's clear that it's not a habitual problem as of yet. And it's not exactly defamation of the software or the project. |
| 00:29.52 | Gnea | yes, i saw that too |
| 00:29.52 | kspath | |ryan|: s/incorrecting/encountering/ |
| 00:30.01 | _Atomo64_ | hey, when I try to install a patch I get "/var/lib/dpkg/info/sysv-rc-bootsplash.postinst: line 54: [: =: unary operator expected" that file is: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2600 |
| 00:30.03 | gravity | Gnea: And, to be fair, I joke around with people sometimes too |
| 00:30.19 | Gnea | gravity: so do i, but i do know the limits. |
| 00:30.25 | |ryan| | kspath: yeah, i just googled it.... It' |
| 00:30.28 | gravity | Gnea: If it becomes a serious problem then you can call us. Clearly it's not yet. |
| 00:30.32 | unix_infidel | haha, looks like everything is back to normal. |
| 00:30.33 | |ryan| | does not work atm, apparently. |
| 00:30.42 | Gnea | gravity: fine. |
| 00:31.01 | |ryan| | 'install sarge, then upgrade to sid' |
| 00:31.18 | Gnea | gravity: clearly, i think you're an idiot, and i'll say no more about any of this. |
| 00:31.19 | mentor | I think the appropriate response here would be to tell people that don't help or actively harm others will not be tolerated in the channel. |
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| 00:31.42 | kspath | Gnea: You generally want a lot of evidence and other people noticing it as well so there is no doubt in anyones mind about it. |
| 00:31.46 | mentor | But that goes for everyone. |
| 00:31.59 | |ryan| | meh. |
| 00:32.03 | |ryan| | I'll just use testing. |
| 00:32.13 | |ryan| | has the stuff i need in it. |
| 00:32.15 | EdLin | who Gnea |
| 00:32.20 | EdLin | oops |
| 00:32.29 | kspath | |ryan|: Good choice. |
| 00:32.43 | amphi | mentor: of what? |
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| 00:32.55 | |ryan| | web dev |
| 00:33.28 | mentor | amphi: "<amphi> tethead: of course" referring to "<tethead> does this mean windows is better?" |
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| 00:34.13 | amphi | mentor: I'd've thought the sarcasm was obvious |
| 00:34.59 | mentor | amphi: Apparently not in this case :) |
| 00:35.04 | amphi | mentor: heh |
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| 00:35.25 | EdLin | you can't assume people have a clue, it's Sunday today, after all |
| 00:35.32 | mentor | not in UTC. |
| 00:35.35 | mentor | :) |
| 00:35.55 | kspath | EdLin: I never have a clue 24/7/365. Therefore I do not need a Sunday as an excuse. |
| 00:36.01 | EdLin | mentor: it is in the United States, where most of us idiots live. ;-) |
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| 00:36.10 | teledyn | man, i was on #macosx asking about getting kernel headers to build hardware modules and all these little corporate shill imps started insulting me |
| 00:36.22 | mentor | ... |
| 00:36.30 | mentor | teledyn: Not really the place. |
| 00:36.50 | kspath | teledyn: maybe ##linux or #bsd ? |
| 00:36.54 | amphi | teledyn: especially not after darwin being closed |
| 00:37.22 | teledyn | yeah, well i didnt' know that it was closed. i guess apple spent so much on PR about it being open or whatever |
| 00:37.36 | EdLin | I don't understand why people think OS X is the best desktop Unix. It doesn't even have multiple desktops. |
| 00:37.46 | mentor | It does with addons. |
| 00:37.48 | mentor | Anyway.... |
| 00:37.53 | teledyn | and i'm sure they've got an army of lawyers ready to cram DMCA down anyone's throat just discussing it |
| 00:37.59 | mentor | ahem |
| 00:38.02 | amphi | teledyn: I could be wrong, but ISTR that it was recently closed |
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| 00:39.47 | foo | err, my nfs server froze so now my system hangs when trying to access an nfs mount ... I've stopped portmap and nfs-common in hopes of me being able to unmount the nfs share but it looks like I can't. Any ideas? |
| 00:40.03 | Yawgmoth7 | Does the netinstall support wireless cards? (I'm guess it just doesn't support my chipset, RaLink) |
| 00:40.11 | Yawgmoth7 | I should check the site.. |
| 00:40.13 | EdLin | dpkg -i nfs |
| 00:41.36 | streuner | heh |
| 00:41.59 | js_ | foo: while :; do umount -f /mount/point; done |
| 00:43.18 | streuner | mentor: can you unban Gnea? |
| 00:43.36 | lastnode | Yawgmoth7, i had to boot from a livecd that supported my ipw2200 chipset and do a debootstrap |
| 00:43.42 | streuner | Gnea: besides, that was very clever, insulting an op... |
| 00:43.49 | Yawgmoth7 | lastnode, I see |
| 00:43.51 | lastnode | Yawgmoth7, oh sorry, i mean i was already running gentoo, so i just deebostrapped from there |
| 00:44.02 | Yawgmoth7 | Hmm |
| 00:44.48 | Yawgmoth7 | Well just asking, I think I'll just use a wired connection for the net install. I just didn't want to move away from the position I was in :P |
| 00:46.02 | lastnode | Yawgmoth7, lazy jackass! :p |
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| 00:47.07 | headBump | hi |
| 00:47.10 | headBump | what are raid sets |
| 00:48.40 | kspath | Bumphead: Sets of RAID? |
| 00:49.28 | BigBuddha | Could someone tell me why in Debian, my computer monitor turns off permanently if I don't use it for a while? |
| 00:49.31 | BigBuddha | I'm using a laptop. |
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| 00:49.53 | BigBuddha | For some reason, there is no screen saver instead the monitor turns off however I can't turn it back on without restarting the damn thing. |
| 00:50.11 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: the battery went dead? ;) |
| 00:50.16 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: I had a machine that did that once |
| 00:50.27 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: No because it's plugged in ;) |
| 00:50.33 | BigBuddha | And the computer is still on |
| 00:50.37 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: It's basically a power-management issue. Probably a buggy BIOS |
| 00:50.56 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: It never did this in any of my previous Debian or Fedora installations... |
| 00:50.59 | kspath | BigBuddha: DPMS? |
| 00:51.09 | Yawgmoth7 | lastnode, I paintballed for like 5 hours today so I'm sore xD |
| 00:51.14 | BigBuddha | kspath: What is DPMS? |
| 00:51.26 | BigBuddha | Yawgmoth7: I love paintballing ;) |
| 00:51.26 | lastnode | Yawgmoth7, lucky you :) |
| 00:51.40 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: here's a good test: type "xset dpms force off", and see if it reproduces the problem |
| 00:52.02 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: (I assume you're running X on that machine) |
| 00:52.05 | kspath | BigBuddha: /msg dpkg dpms |
| 00:52.06 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: I have a dual boot. I'm in Windows right now. Let me reboot. I'll brb. |
| 00:52.09 | buu | Hrm |
| 00:52.17 | buu | What was the iptables command to do 'port forwarding' ? |
| 00:52.18 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: Yea I have X |
| 00:52.25 | kspath | BigBuddha: /msg dpkg dpms |
| 00:54.18 | Dwonis | kspath: it could be DPMS, but I doubt it |
| 00:54.32 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: I'm back |
| 00:54.34 | BigBuddha | kspath: I'm back |
| 00:54.35 | Dwonis | kspath: more likely, I think it's one of those "suspend the machine after X minutes" BIOS settings that's hanging |
| 00:54.46 | BigBuddha | Okay so what should be my frist step? |
| 00:54.48 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p protocol --dport # --to IP |
| 00:54.50 | BigBuddha | first* |
| 00:54.51 | kspath | !tell BigBuddha about dpms |
| 00:54.56 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: did you try "xset dpms force off"? |
| 00:55.01 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: Nope |
| 00:55.05 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: Should I do it? |
| 00:55.07 | BigBuddha | As root? |
| 00:55.14 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: You don't need to be root. |
| 00:55.24 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: if it hangs the machine, then you know it was that |
| 00:55.24 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: Hrm. |
| 00:56.08 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu that's how I do it at least. I have a series of those on my router to forward ports to various computers on my network |
| 00:56.09 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: iptables v1.2.11: Unknown arg `--to |
| 00:56.21 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu my bad forgot part |
| 00:56.30 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p protocol --dport # -j DNAT --to IP |
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| 00:57.02 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: still here? |
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| 00:58.09 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: It hung it. |
| 00:58.17 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: I had to restart ;_ |
| 00:58.20 | BigBuddha | ;)* |
| 00:58.25 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: ok. hmm. |
| 00:58.50 | kspath | BigBuddha: turn off dpms in your X config |
| 00:58.52 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: That screwed something up.. |
| 00:58.57 | BigBuddha | kspath: How? |
| 00:59.07 | BigBuddha | kspath: Shouldn't I have my monitor turn off? |
| 00:59.10 | Dwonis | !tell BigBuddha about dpms |
| 00:59.13 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu like what? |
| 00:59.24 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: kspath already did that lol. |
| 00:59.27 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: read what dpkg said, but instead of using DPMS "on", set it to "off" |
| 00:59.53 | BigBuddha | Okay, is the option already in my xorg.conf? |
| 00:59.56 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: Now nothing sent to the port on the gateway is going to the box |
| 00:59.59 | BigBuddha | Or do I need to add it? |
| 01:00.05 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: It might be, it might not be |
| 01:00.11 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: Aight |
| 01:00.20 | kspath | BigBuddha: You need to look at your X config file |
| 01:00.36 | kspath | BigBuddha: /etc/X11/ |
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| 01:00.49 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu was it before? and if so what are you trying to do? |
| 01:00.51 | BigBuddha | kspath: I know |
| 01:00.57 | BigBuddha | kspath: But what do I add? |
| 01:01.05 | BigBuddha | kspath: DPMS off |
| 01:01.06 | BigBuddha | ? |
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| 01:01.18 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: I have nat set up, so it was if I connect out first. I'm trying to get battle net working =/ |
| 01:01.18 | kspath | BigBuddha: That is as far as I go. You can do research or someone else can help. |
| 01:01.32 | Dwonis | !sing Sunday bloody Sunday! |
| 01:02.07 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu so you're saying now outgoing packets die? |
| 01:02.21 | kspath | Dwonis: /msg dpkg u2 |
| 01:02.42 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: Bnet works in two modes, active and passive, sort of. In the first mode I connect to it via nat and my gateway deals with the incoming packets and everything is happy |
| 01:03.04 | Dwonis | kspath: heh |
| 01:03.05 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: But I'm trying to set it up so that I can host games, which means peope need to connect to me first |
| 01:03.11 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: Which is what the port forwarding is for |
| 01:03.50 | buu | But once I turn on the forwarding, I can't connect at all |
| 01:04.02 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu: that command really should have done that, the only other thing I can think of is you can toss in '-i <incoming interface>' as well |
| 01:04.12 | kspath | I wish there were channels for non-debian questions. |
| 01:04.26 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: If I turn DPMS off, can I not go into standby? |
| 01:04.33 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: that's the idea |
| 01:04.40 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: Speaking of which, I don't know how to put my laptiz in standby. |
| 01:04.49 | BigBuddha | Dwonis: And I need it to go in that. |
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| 01:05.39 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i ppp0 -p protocol --dport # -j DNAT --to IP <-- something like that |
| 01:06.09 | BigWillyStyle42 | assuming your incoming interface is ppp0, which of course it might not be |
| 01:06.13 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: think that would make a difference? |
| 01:06.29 | Dwonis | BigBuddha: I don't know. The command keeps changing. It used to be apmsleep, but it probably isn't anymore |
| 01:06.37 | BigWillyStyle42 | yeah it's definitely worth a shot |
| 01:06.46 | buu | well |
| 01:07.08 | buu | No joy. |
| 01:07.25 | BigWillyStyle42 | did you clear the other rule first? |
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| 01:07.56 | buu | Yeah |
| 01:08.03 | buu | Bah. Those rules work fine for a simple test script. |
| 01:08.09 | buu | But not for this stupid warcraft |
| 01:08.48 | unity | hello, i was wondering if anyone knew a way i can make a laptop's console at 1024x768 resolution? the console only takes up like 1/4 of the screen and i want it to fill the whole screen, but i would like it not to only be bigger but to also have a higher resolution. is this possible? |
| 01:09.04 | BigWillyStyle42 | did you double check the protocol and port? |
| 01:09.10 | BigWillyStyle42 | that's the only thing I can think of... |
| 01:09.30 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: Woah, it works |
| 01:09.32 | quitte | unity: what gfx chip does your laptop use? |
| 01:09.33 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: I was forwarding tcp and udp |
| 01:09.39 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: But I took out the udp forward |
| 01:09.41 | buu | Now it works. |
| 01:09.58 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu good stuff, were you using two separate lines for the tcp and udp? |
| 01:10.20 | buu | Yeah? |
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| 01:10.41 | BigWillyStyle42 | just making sure, as far as I know that's the right way to do it |
| 01:10.41 | unity | quitte: lspci gives: Trident Microsystems Cyber 9397 (rev f3) |
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| 01:11.14 | unity | quitte: that is next to VGA Compatible Controller |
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| 01:11.43 | buu | BigWillyStyle42: Weirdness. |
| 01:12.10 | BigWillyStyle42 | buu: as long as it works now :P |
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| 01:13.03 | buu | Yeah, seems to |
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| 01:13.18 | quitte | unity: echo tridentfb>>/etc/modules |
| 01:13.21 | onetinsoldier | howdy |
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| 01:13.28 | quitte | unity: maybe that helps |
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| 01:14.54 | unity | quitte: and then restart? or can i just modprobe it now? |
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| 01:15.31 | quitte | unity: modprobing right now should give you an idea of the result to expect |
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| 01:16.37 | dingus9 | hello, I reciently setup a loop0 device and restarted my machine and now it sends a "LOOP_SET_STATUS: invalid argument" a device resource busy errors. Any ideah on a solution |
| 01:16.41 | unity | quitte: modprobe: can't locate module tridentfb |
| 01:16.59 | unity | i hope i don't need to build my own kernel...i've never done that before |
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| 01:17.52 | dingus9 | look at your kernel config in /boot/ you can search it for the module name. its rudementry but atleast you would know |
| 01:17.54 | quitte | unity: yes, sorry. sarge doesnt have it. |
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| 01:18.14 | foo | Hm, anyone set up awstats with plesk before? Hmm |
| 01:18.20 | quitte | unity: svgatextmode might be worth having a look at then |
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| 01:18.58 | kspath | quitte: I liked svgatextmode very much. |
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| 01:19.37 | quitte | kspath: feel free to get it working for unity |
| 01:19.43 | unity | quitte: thanks i will try it out now |
| 01:20.02 | NaufraGo | how can I see a webpage's dns by terminal? |
| 01:20.08 | kspath | quitte: hehehe no thanks. I just used the manual and forgot it not long after. |
| 01:20.36 | kspath | NaufraGo: are you asking about dig or host or nslookup or whois ? |
| 01:21.08 | onetinsoldier | NaufraGo: host command perhaps? |
| 01:21.19 | dingus9 | I need help on an a loopback device error |
| 01:21.23 | NaufraGo | well, it doesn't matter, you answered my question, thanks |
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| 01:23.23 | Yawgmoth7 | ack |
| 01:23.35 | Yawgmoth7 | Just had the weirdest router problems; but I managed to fix them o_O |
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| 01:24.38 | onetinsoldier | the world of wonderful routing eh.. |
| 01:25.32 | headBump | hi which is better to backup 1 partition or 2 partitions |
| 01:25.59 | kspath | headBump: ? |
| 01:26.12 | Dwonis | !halt Yawgmoth7's router |
| 01:26.15 | Dwonis | problem solved |
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| 01:26.33 | Dwonis | as an added bonus, it's more secure that way |
| 01:27.07 | ludovicus | hey all, are there any issues with Xorg in etch lately? "nvidia-oneliner" |
| 01:28.09 | Dwonis | ludovicus: Heh. There are always issues with X. Can you be more specific? |
| 01:28.11 | Yawgmoth7 | no :( |
| 01:28.28 | kspath | headBump: Do you have a Debian question? |
| 01:28.41 | ludovicus | well, so far i've tried to do the nvidia-oneliner and useing the packages in sid, it breaks |
| 01:29.02 | ludovicus | so, if i decide to use nvidia packages in etch, has anyone had issues? |
| 01:29.28 | ludovicus | and the debian servers... are they still a round robbin or are only a few of them now in that setup |
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| 01:30.18 | ludovicus | i tried to add contrib and (gasp) non-free to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ |
| 01:30.24 | ludovicus | and it barfed |
| 01:30.31 | Knorrie | !moo |
| 01:30.31 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:30.42 | ludovicus | apt-get moo |
| 01:31.05 | dingus9 | in the console |
| 01:31.09 | Knorrie | w00t |
| 01:31.11 | ludovicus | <dpkg> ...."Have you mooed today?"... |
| 01:31.11 | dingus9 | lol |
| 01:31.17 | Dwonis | So when is aptitude going to get Super Cow Powers? |
| 01:31.23 | Knorrie | never |
| 01:31.45 | dingus9 | question from an ignorant noob what are super cow powers? |
| 01:31.55 | kspath | Knorrie: never is an absolute and therefore nearly impossible to defend. |
| 01:32.09 | ludovicus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.09 | ludovicus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.09 | ludovicus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.09 | ludovicus | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.09 | ludovicus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:32.33 | ludovicus | sorry |
| 01:32.36 | Knorrie | ludovicus: lol |
| 01:32.37 | ludovicus | my pad |
| 01:32.39 | dingus9 | lol I liked it |
| 01:32.39 | ludovicus | bad |
| 01:32.45 | Knorrie | ludovicus: hehe |
| 01:32.48 | ludovicus | i broke the pasting rule |
| 01:32.54 | dingus9 | oops |
| 01:32.58 | kspath | !tell ludovicus about paste |
| 01:33.20 | ludovicus | it was intended as plucky comic relief |
| 01:33.24 | dingus9 | its a dumb rule any way. only there because people abuse past |
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| 01:34.20 | Ironhand | I'm running dhcpd3 with "default-lease-time 3600;", but my Debian client systems still only get 300s leases... where does the 300 come from? |
| 01:34.21 | ludovicus | so has anybody had issues with enabling 3d nvidia and etch? |
| 01:34.39 | ludovicus | lol |
| 01:35.33 | dingus9 | Ironhand: iptables? |
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| 01:35.43 | Knorrie | Ironhand: minimal lease-time? |
| 01:35.45 | Ironhand | dingus9: how would iptables affect lease times? |
| 01:35.58 | weasel_00 | !moo |
| 01:35.58 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:36.28 | dingus9 | Ironhand: lol I half read it Id just check you dhcp3 server config |
| 01:36.53 | Knorrie | weasel_00: somebody said that 5 minutes ago |
| 01:37.28 | unity | is there a way to have 12 consoles instead of 6 consoles and 6 empty things waiting for X servers |
| 01:37.37 | dingus9 | Ironhand: where does the dhcpd stor its arp leas tables? |
| 01:37.51 | Dwonis | unity: edit /etc/inittab |
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| 01:37.57 | Dwonis | unity: then run "telinit q" |
| 01:38.00 | Ironhand | Knorrie: I just tried setting a min-lease-time, but the clients still bind for 300s only (which is less than the minimum time set) |
| 01:38.14 | unity | Dwonis: thanks i will do that now |
| 01:38.23 | Ironhand | Knorrie: /var/lib/dhcp3/ |
| 01:38.51 | Dwonis | Ironhand: perhaps the DHCP *server* is refusing to give you longer leases? |
| 01:38.54 | Knorrie | Ironhand: in debian, you *set* things in /etc |
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| 01:39.22 | Ironhand | Dwonis: I control the server and set it to allow much longer leases, in fact to *dis*allow shorter ones |
| 01:40.03 | Dwonis | Ironhand: ah, ok just checking. Did you do /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server force-reload ? |
| 01:40.24 | Ironhand | Knorrie / dingus9: oops, that /var/lib/dhcp3/ line was a reply to dingus9, not Knorrie |
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| 01:40.55 | Ironhand | Dwonis: yup, it's fully restarted... |
| 01:41.10 | Ironhand | it might be useful to add that the clients in question have static (but dhcp-provided) IP's |
| 01:41.27 | dingus9 | Ironhand: your config should be in /etc though make sure the "config " you set everything is is not a test or sample config |
| 01:41.59 | Dwonis | Ironhand: I don't know if this helps, but I remember that I had some issues with DHCP where it would cache its already-issued leases, and only respect the new configuration when existing leases expired. So, you might want to check those files in /var |
| 01:42.10 | Ironhand | dingus9: yes, however dhcpd3 keeps its active leases file in /var/lib/ , which imho is the right place for that. the static config is /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd3.conf |
| 01:42.26 | Ironhand | good point Dwonis, I'll check that |
| 01:43.19 | dingus9 | Ironhand: ok I would flush your leases |
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| 01:44.12 | Ironhand | dingus9: you mean server or client side? if server: it appears dhcpd3 doesn't actually store active leases for statically defined IP's... if client side: I just did, no effect |
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| 01:44.18 | blanky | sup debian |
| 01:44.48 | Ironhand | in fact, /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases on the client has the correct value for the leasetime listed - it just seems that it's being ignored |
| 01:45.29 | kspath | !mailing list |
| 01:45.29 | dpkg | i heard mailing list is about large numbers of persons that might have knowledge and experiences that may or may not use IRC. about http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/, or about the communications being persistent. Mailing lists allow those in various time zones to more effectively share with each other. |
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| 01:46.30 | blanky | hey guys, what's up. I heard ubuntu's doing great, I hear it's better than debian, what do you guys think? |
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| 01:46.45 | pingu | That wasn't funny blanky. |
| 01:46.52 | dingus9 | Ironhand: so your thinking it may be a client thing? |
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| 01:47.06 | onetinsoldier | !better |
| 01:47.06 | dpkg | methinks better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 01:47.08 | blanky | hey pingu shut up, go manage your crusty debian packages |
| 01:47.19 | kspath | blanky: Wrong channel. |
| 01:47.21 | dingus9 | um blanky if you like it its cool |
| 01:47.25 | kriel | hey... uhm... does anybody know what the command to list all your pci devices is? and for that matter, is there a way to 'search' available commands? |
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| 01:47.45 | onetinsoldier | kriel: lspci -v |
| 01:48.05 | Ironhand | dingus9: I get that idea yes, since the server appears to be handing out the right values... though I'm not quite sure. both are Debian, client = sid (without any related config tweaks), server = sarge. |
| 01:48.06 | dingus9 | blanky: your misinformed ubuntu is usually behind debian I use both |
| 01:48.17 | blanky | yeah i was just bsing |
| 01:48.18 | kriel | onetinsoldier: heh. kay. thanks ^^ |
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| 01:48.32 | onetinsoldier | kriel: your welcome |
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| 01:49.24 | onetinsoldier | kriel: there are a couple of way to search for available commands... one way is to type in the first letter and first letter only, then press TAB twice |
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| 01:49.38 | kspath | blanky: /whois blanky |
| 01:50.23 | dingus9 | Ironhand: its possible but I don't know exactly but there may be something in the dhclient.config file |
| 01:50.53 | Ironhand | dingus9: my /etc/dhclient.conf is empty (well, it's all comments, just the default debian file) |
| 01:51.32 | kriel | onetinsoldier: well, like... for example, i was trying to use 'pcils' and tab wouldn't have found it... |
| 01:51.42 | kriel | onetinsoldier: if I could have searched for pci... |
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| 01:52.00 | onetinsoldier | kriel: why wouldn't tab have found it? |
| 01:52.16 | kriel | onetinsoldier: lspci has different first letters than pcils |
| 01:52.16 | dingus9 | Ironhand: yah mine too did you look in the dhcp3/ folder there is another one |
| 01:52.56 | Ironhand | dingus9: mine just has dhclient-enter-hooks.d/samba under /etc/dhcp3/ , otherwise the dir is empty |
| 01:53.31 | Ironhand | dingus9: in fact, I just set "supersede dhcp-lease-time 3600;" in /etc/dhclient.conf and it's still only binding for 300 secs |
| 01:53.41 | onetinsoldier | kriel: ok, roger. well, you can always go into the dirs and do an 'ls'. in... /sbin /usr/sbin /bin /usr/bin /usr/X11/bin ...ect |
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| 01:54.31 | dingus9 | Ironhand: look in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf mine is different than the one in /etc/ |
| 01:54.51 | Ironhand | dingus9: I don't have that file |
| 01:55.36 | dingus9 | Ironhand: you don't have a /etc/dhcp3 dir? |
| 01:56.07 | Ironhand | dingus9: yes, it only contains a subdir called 'dhclient-enter-hooks.d' containing a file called 'samba' |
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| 01:56.47 | kriel | onetinsoldier: wonder if i could set up an alias to find in any directory 'bin' plus whatever command... |
| 01:56.49 | dingus9 | Ironhand: IC well mine has another file called dhclient.conf inside the dhcp3 dir |
| 01:57.06 | vars | is there a way to test if my cdburner is really working |
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| 01:57.31 | kriel | onetinsoldier: 'alias cmdfind=find / -iname bin -iname' |
| 01:57.41 | dingus9 | Ironhand: maybe you should reinstall your dhcp3 package? |
| 01:58.08 | ludovicus | hey all, i am using apt sources for http.us.debian.org contrib main non-free and when i do the nvidia oneliner it barfs |
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| 01:58.26 | ludovicus | any suggestions? |
| 01:59.12 | dingus9 | Ironhand: hey in my dhclient.conf it has an entry to tell dhclient3 what to ask of the dhcp server! |
| 01:59.18 | vars | anyone? |
| 01:59.34 | Ironhand | dingus9: actually, the only dhcp package on the client is 'dhcp-client' (which also explains the absent config file)... I'll try installing dhcp3-client instead, if that fixes it it's more acceptable than having to edit the config on every client |
| 01:59.59 | onetinsoldier | kriel: probably. you might have to learn a little bash shell scripting to accomplish that |
| 02:00.16 | ludovicus | i'm thinking it's something to do with nvidia-kernel-source not bein available... or nvidia-glx not being available... is it required now to install it using apt.preferences refering to sid repositories |
| 02:00.18 | dingus9 | Ironhand: I might it is more up to date. infact I had a whole slue of trouble before I changed |
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| 02:01.17 | onetinsoldier | kriel: are you just saying that if you know the name of a command that you want to know where it's located? |
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| 02:01.52 | dingus9 | hey ludovicus I gave up on the deb package for my nvidia drivers and went with the one from the nvidia site. It ocasionaly causes a few problems but... atleast I have glx drivers and such |
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| 02:02.15 | Ironhand | dingus9: I just replaced it, however now it seems it's binding for random second values in the 200-300 range |
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| 02:02.44 | kriel | onetinsoldier: neh. nevermind. just kind of realizing that it wouldn't be very helpful. what i was trying for was to have a way to search for a command based on part of its name. |
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| 02:03.00 | onetinsoldier | kriel: ok |
| 02:03.35 | kriel | onetinsoldier: in any case, i gotta go for a few, so thanks for the help. -nods- brb... |
| 02:04.05 | onetinsoldier | kreil: look at the man pages on the commands... search, locate, and grep. you know how to pipe one command into another don't you? |
| 02:04.33 | onetinsoldier | kriel: ok, bye. take care |
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| 02:06.21 | ludovicus | so what happened to debian that took the 3d out of nvidia in etch? |
| 02:08.05 | Daedalus_ | ludovicus: You mean taking out the glx stuff? |
| 02:08.54 | ludovicus | well, i set up etch on my girl's laptop ~ 1 year ago with xorg |
| 02:09.03 | ludovicus | now when i attempt the oneliner it barfs |
| 02:09.18 | ludovicus | it can't find nvdia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source |
| 02:09.24 | onetinsoldier | etch was available a year ago? |
| 02:09.40 | ludovicus | my sources might be messed up but i have contrip and non-free chosen |
| 02:09.55 | Daedalus_ | !find nvidia-kernel-source |
| 02:10.04 | Daedalus_ | !find nvidia-kernel-source etch |
| 02:10.06 | Daedalus_ | grr |
| 02:10.24 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'nvidia-kernel-source' (1): (/usr/src/nvidia-kernel-source.tar.gz) in non-free/x11/nvidia-kernel-source. |
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| 02:11.11 | Ugly_Duck | Dad's cooking venison steaks for dinner, he aint telling the kids what he's cooking. he gives them a clue by saying ""its what mummy calls dad some times" the little girl cries, its a f*cking asshole, i aint eaten that |
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| 02:11.58 | ludovicus | well, i used this as my source: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free |
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| 02:13.05 | stormzen | stupid off topic question: What kind of DVD player does one need to play DVD-Rs? |
| 02:13.18 | ludovicus | any player will do |
| 02:13.24 | ludovicus | as long as you have the codec to play |
| 02:14.04 | stormzen | Ok... My player doesn't, but it dates back to before the standards were really settled. They all do it now? |
| 02:14.17 | Daedalus_ | stormzen: if you have a crazy old one, the laser/receiver might not be strong enough to get a good signal |
| 02:14.55 | stormzen | ok. So I don't need a DVD recorder unit to play DVD-Rs, then. Thanks! |
| 02:15.03 | Daedalus_ | stormzen: also, a lot of players made before the late 90's only work with single-session finished disks |
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| 02:15.33 | stormzen | It'll be a brand new player... I'm thinking generic. |
| 02:15.42 | Daedalus_ | Then you'll be fine |
| 02:15.52 | Ironhand | I haven't quite figured out the dhclient magic yet - but I do have it going for higher renewal times now, still not quite exactly what the server allows though... I get the sense that it's caching data somewhere that I'm not aware of |
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| 02:16.05 | stormzen | hey, thanks a lot, I really appreciate it! |
| 02:16.58 | Ugly_Duck | when i ls -la /mnt/ i see sda1 and ?share, how do i delete ?share it says -> rm: cannot lstat `/mnt/share': Input/output error |
| 02:17.13 | ludovicus | anybody have luck with ICH6 and sound |
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| 02:18.44 | GaiaX11 | Why is that I cannot connect to my hotmail through konqueror? I give the right passw but it don't access my account? I think it is about certificate, but i do not know how to set up them |
| 02:19.13 | Ugly_Duck | gotmail is such a kewl little app |
| 02:20.26 | Ugly_Duck | you can forward your hotmail to another pop or imap server |
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| 02:29.59 | weasel00 | !ntp |
| 02:29.59 | dpkg | rumour has it, ntp is the Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntpdate ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. (Make sure your time zone is right, with tzconfig, first.) See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. |
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| 02:31.23 | onetinsoldier | kriel: what.. did you just get x-windows going or something? hehe |
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| 02:33.37 | kriel | onetinsoldier: i just got my -bleeping- compy to go above 800x600 by installing the nvidia drivers... |
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| 02:34.33 | crn | what kind of device is sit0? |
| 02:34.45 | onetinsoldier | kriel: roger. i was having a problem getting over 640x480! but it wasn't a driver problem though. i had to specify my hsync and vsync ranges in the xorg.conf file |
| 02:35.15 | onetinsoldier | then... i was able to get my desired 1600x1200 |
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| 02:37.44 | sigjuice | on my system cat /etc/debian_release says testing/unstable. What does that mean? |
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| 02:38.27 | kriel | onetinsoldier: now all I've gotta do is set up dual heads... that'll be fun... -soft mewl- |
| 02:38.40 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: it means you're running the unstable version... a.k.a. sid |
| 02:38.46 | kriel | onetinsoldier: oh, and my sound... |
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| 02:38.54 | amphi | crn: something to do with ipv6 I think |
| 02:39.19 | onetinsoldier | kriel: hehe.. good luck. i have sound working all good. i only use one monitor myself. |
| 02:39.38 | sigjuice | onetinsoldier: but what does testing mean? I'm a little confused. I was expecting either testing or unstable, but not both. |
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| 02:40.12 | crn | amphi, thanks. It looks like it's used to make ipv6 tunnel through ipv4. I was thinking some kind of hardware |
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| 02:41.33 | kriel | onetinsoldier: i have a tendency to be on messenger and both an irc and webbased chatroom, plus my music, plus whatever i'm actively working on. (surfing, coding...) |
| 02:41.37 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: well, i think it means you're running a mixture of them.. maybe? don't listen to me, i don't know what i'm talking about there... lol. i just checked mine and it says the same thing! but i'm running testing(etch). but i did... |
| 02:41.53 | onetinsoldier | install an app from unstable(sid).... the vlc media player |
| 02:42.18 | kriel | onetinsoldier: two monitors was a blessing... |
| 02:42.26 | onetinsoldier | kriel: i'll bet |
| 02:42.37 | onetinsoldier | for doing all that stuff |
| 02:43.05 | kriel | onetinsoldier: i love being a caffiene-dependant teenager. -smirk- |
| 02:43.12 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 02:44.30 | kriel | q: is there an effective way to multitask without using either a gui or more than one computer? |
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| 02:46.52 | downhill | Hi. Can someone tell how to shut up dpkg over 'unmet' deps (just other names then specified in the .deb), like an option "don't even look at that package? |
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| 02:47.23 | mick_linux | hi everyone |
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| 02:48.17 | onetinsoldier | g'night kriel |
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| 02:49.27 | onetinsoldier | downhill: what's going on? what's wrong? |
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| 02:50.18 | downhill | onetinsoldier: installed a .deb from an external source (webpage) and it seems like some dependencies are named wrong, so now it always complains when I want to apt-get install something |
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| 02:50.37 | downhill | but it runs perfect, so some config to just ignore the 'broken' deps would be good |
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| 02:51.00 | weasel00 | stupid lvm is driving me crazy |
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| 02:51.56 | wimp | I'm running debian stable 3.0; what modules do I need to get cdrecord -scanbus toshow up my cdr? |
| 02:52.32 | onetinsoldier | downhill: roger |
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| 02:52.51 | weasel00 | is there an alternative to using the lvm command line util? |
| 02:53.12 | wimp | I'm running debian stable 3.0; what modules do I need to get cdrecord -scanbus toshow up my cdr? |
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| 02:53.49 | onetinsoldier | downhill: i used to know how to take care of that kind of thing... but now it's been too many years. i've only recenlty started using linux/debian again and i forget. arrrgh |
| 02:53.55 | mick_linux | how can i upgrade from sarge to etch? (apt-get dist-upgrade fails miserably on e2fs-omething). I downloaded the etch CD (so I figured that i could upgrade via CD) |
| 02:54.12 | wimp | I'm running debian stable 3.0; what modules do I need to get cdrecord -scanbus toshow up my cdr? |
| 02:54.32 | mick_linux | i looked at all the F keys to see if there was an "upgrade" option... doesn't seem to be one |
| 02:54.38 | onetinsoldier | downhill: if you give me a while i might be able to come up with a solution |
| 02:55.15 | downhill | onetinsoldier: sure, I still can use apt-get -f install, but I think there'll a better solution |
| 02:55.33 | downhill | correction.. I can't use apt-get -f install |
| 02:55.51 | onetinsoldier | downhill: i see |
| 02:56.01 | downhill | Hmm.. Is there an option to pretend to have xyz installed? |
| 02:56.07 | wimp | I'm running debian stable 3.0; what modules do I need to get cdrecord -scanbus toshow up my cdr? |
| 02:56.46 | servus | wimp: With 2.6 kernel, can't you cdrecord straight to a /dev/hdx device without SCSI emulation? |
| 02:56.52 | wimp | I'm on 2.4 |
| 02:57.07 | wimp | I have hdc=ide-cd in grub |
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| 02:57.19 | wimp | I have ide-scsi ide-cd sr_mod and sg modprobed |
| 02:57.24 | wimp | but cdrecord-scanbus still doesnt' shwo it :-( |
| 02:57.47 | onetinsoldier | downhill: yes.. but again, i don't remeber how. i wish someone knowlegeable on here would help you out! |
| 02:57.53 | servus | Don't remember, sorry. |
| 02:58.12 | mick_linux | this is what i'd do (if you have X) |
| 02:58.25 | mick_linux | just install K3B and look at what it does in the console |
| 02:58.31 | wimp | what's k3b? |
| 02:58.42 | mick_linux | a burning frontend |
| 02:58.45 | mick_linux | its great :) |
| 02:59.02 | servus | apt-cache search k3b and apt-cache show k3b are great commands... |
| 02:59.03 | wimp | err, modprobeing requires root access |
| 02:59.03 | wimp | cdreocrd doesn't even recognize the existence of the cdburner |
| 02:59.07 | mick_linux | thats how i burned the etch cd (that i can't seem to use to upgrade debian w/) |
| 02:59.15 | onetinsoldier | downhill: you can mess with a file but i don't know how much i'd really recommend playing with it. it could be dangerous. that file is... /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 03:00.39 | weasel00 | is there an alternative to using the lvm command line util to handle the same job? |
| 03:00.52 | downhill | onetinsoldier: works, thanks |
| 03:01.32 | onetinsoldier | downhill: you fixed it? |
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| 03:01.49 | onetinsoldier | downhill: you altered that file and fixed it? |
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| 03:02.05 | downhill | onetinsoldier: yes, deleted the dependencies that were wrong |
| 03:02.22 | onetinsoldier | downhill: awesome. :) |
| 03:03.15 | wimp | I'm running debian stable 3.0; what modules do I need to get cdrecord -scanbus toshow up my cdr? |
| 03:03.40 | downhill | onetinsoldier: could've renamed them to the correct ones, but that would be to much afford ;) |
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| 03:04.24 | onetinsoldier | downhill: hehe |
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| 03:06.08 | kspath | !woody |
| 03:06.08 | dpkg | it has been said that woody is the previous stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge" or "sarge install guide" Security updates for woody will cease approximately one year after sarge's release(July/2006) |
| 03:06.21 | weasel00 | !tell me about raid5 |
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| 03:14.27 | VolVE | Anyone know why adding a couple new HDs would cause not only Grub to hang, but also the Debian install CD? :-/ |
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| 03:17.25 | Gimp_ | how do i change the password for a user account? |
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| 03:17.44 | kspath | Gimp_: man passwd |
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| 03:17.54 | Gimp_ | kspath: tanks |
| 03:17.55 | Gimp_ | thanks* |
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| 03:19.13 | kspath | !mailing list |
| 03:19.13 | dpkg | [mailing list] about large numbers of persons that might have knowledge and experiences that may or may not use IRC. about http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/, or about the communications being persistent. Mailing lists allow those in various time zones to more effectively share with each other. |
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| 03:24.51 | jbrimble | Help! The power went out on my Debian box and now it says it can't load X Windows :( |
| 03:25.56 | weasel00 | VolVE : check your pin settings on the hd's? |
| 03:27.35 | onetinsoldier | brimble: did it do a filesystem check when you booted the system back up? |
| 03:28.14 | jbrimble | I think so. It starts X, and its all static, then it flickers 3 times and tells me it can't do ti |
| 03:28.17 | jbrimble | *ot |
| 03:28.18 | jbrimble | *it |
| 03:28.48 | vars | hey what do y'all make of this? |
| 03:29.03 | vars | mkisofs: broken pipe. cannot fwrite |
| 03:29.48 | onetinsoldier | brimble: to make sure the filesystem is ok i recommend you give the following command shutdown -F now ...then come back here |
| 03:29.53 | vars | when i try to burn a cd |
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| 03:30.09 | jbrimble | okay |
| 03:30.15 | onetinsoldier | brimble: btw, just curious. what filesystem are you using? |
| 03:30.47 | jbrimble | i actually don't know.. I set it all to default |
| 03:30.50 | onetinsoldier | brimble: umm sorry.... that command! |
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| 03:31.15 | onetinsoldier | should be.... should be shutdown -F -r now |
| 03:31.25 | jbrimble | Ah, okay. Thanks. I'll try that now |
| 03:31.30 | onetinsoldier | ok.. good luck |
| 03:34.49 | madd_matt | does anybody know how i can set up a mail server that just forwards all incoming mail to another email account? |
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| 03:38.10 | jbrimble | :( Still no luck. X is corrupt |
| 03:38.26 | onetinsoldier | darn |
| 03:38.58 | onetinsoldier | jbrimble: are you running stable(sarge)? |
| 03:39.00 | deadcat | madd_matt: sounds like you need to setup your dns or so. not MTA |
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| 03:39.02 | jbrimble | Yes |
| 03:39.31 | onetinsoldier | ok... well try the following |
| 03:39.35 | onetinsoldier | !drxx |
| 03:39.35 | dpkg | drxx is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
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| 03:39.59 | madd_matt | deadcat, i have a domain, but I want to collect email from a wildcard account and resend it to another account (on gmail) |
| 03:40.19 | onetinsoldier | jbrimble: i recommend you make a backup of your XFree86.config file |
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| 03:40.42 | jbrimble | good idea. thankyou, I'll try that now :) brb |
| 03:40.46 | Ugly_Duck | how do i schedual a fsck next time i reboot? |
| 03:40.47 | onetinsoldier | k |
| 03:41.16 | onetinsoldier | Ugly_Duck: shutdown -F <time> |
| 03:41.31 | onetinsoldier | or shutdown -F -r <time> |
| 03:41.46 | Ugly_Duck | thanks |
| 03:41.48 | onetinsoldier | the -r is for a reboot... so that's the one you want |
| 03:41.53 | onetinsoldier | yer welcome |
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| 03:42.37 | flaco | hi... how can I change the default program in the short cuts ? |
| 03:42.54 | xbmodder_lappy | thats reboot not fsck |
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| 03:43.32 | onetinsoldier | ??? |
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| 03:43.44 | Cervante | hello |
| 03:43.48 | onetinsoldier | shutdown -F forces an fsck |
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| 03:45.40 | Cervante | my debian OS came with wine pre installed...I think its an old version, how do I uninstall wine? I have a updated version of wine |
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| 03:45.55 | worthy952 | cbcvbvcb |
| 03:46.15 | onetinsoldier | Cervante: dpkg --purge wine |
| 03:46.45 | madd_matt | Cervante, to uninstall the wine that shipped with debian, use the command `apt-get remove wine` as root |
| 03:47.19 | Cervante | all right leme try it |
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| 03:50.02 | Ugly_Duck | ok, fsck failed, last thing i seen was modprobe some thing, where will this info be logged? dmesg or message? |
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| 03:51.15 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 03:51.15 | dpkg | tetrinet is, like, multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
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| 03:51.45 | onetinsoldier | Ugly_Duck: perhaps in dmesg... try dmesg | less |
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| 03:52.24 | worthy952 | can anyone tell me how to add my ntfs partition to my grub boot loader please so that I can dual boot? |
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| 03:52.53 | Ugly_Duck | onetinsoldier: dmesg |grep fsck came up with nothing |
| 03:53.25 | onetinsoldier | Ugly_Duck: not sure where you'll find it... try less /var/log/syslog |
| 03:53.30 | junix-other | hey guys i'm getting an error when trying to do a apt-get upgrade and it fails on x11-common |
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| 03:53.37 | Ugly_Duck | onetinsoldier: k, will try there |
| 03:53.39 | junix-other | can someone help? |
| 03:54.20 | junix-other | its bitching about opera owning /usr/X11/bin |
| 03:54.24 | grendal_prime | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 03:55.02 | worthy952 | can anyone tell me how to add my ntfs partition to my grub boot loader please so that I can dual boot? |
| 03:55.29 | grendal_prime | this is driving me nuts...ok jabber server, i can send files between users that are on the outside of the router. but i cant send any from the inside to the outside and vice versa |
| 03:55.33 | grendal_prime | that make any sense |
| 03:55.39 | Ugly_Duck | is there a safe way to fsck a drive while its mounted? |
| 03:55.56 | onetinsoldier | Ugly_Duck:yes |
| 03:56.02 | grendal_prime | and worthy952 which drive is the windows partion on and why do you need windows? |
| 03:56.10 | onetinsoldier | man fsck |
| 03:56.19 | worthy952 | its a family pc |
| 03:56.22 | Ugly_Duck | kk, i'll do that |
| 03:56.23 | worthy952 | i have to share :-( |
| 03:56.29 | worthy952 | i don't know the drive i can't see it |
| 03:56.42 | Ugly_Duck | just when i tried, it said.. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS etc etc.. i thought.., ewps.. wont do that |
| 03:56.52 | onetinsoldier | hehe.. then don't do it |
| 03:57.00 | grendal_prime | well its easyest if the windows drive is, the c drive..or drive hda to start with.. |
| 03:57.26 | onetinsoldier | i thought fsck can be done with it mounted... as long as corrections don't have to be made |
| 03:57.47 | grendal_prime | not a very usefull check |
| 03:58.02 | grendal_prime | i mean...what is it supposed to do if it actually finds something |
| 03:58.49 | grendal_prime | i wish to god some documetation on jabber made any sense..im makine a flash howto when i m done with this frigging thing |
| 04:00.49 | worthy952 | where is the boot file that i can edit to add ntfs to boot up |
| 04:01.04 | worthy952 | please |
| 04:01.28 | rxed | is there a keyboard shortcut for 'click forward'? |
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| 04:01.40 | rxed | oops. |
| 04:01.44 | rxed | worng chan, |
| 04:01.46 | rxed | :) |
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| 04:01.57 | worthy952 | :-( |
| 04:01.59 | grendal_prime | file:/boot/grub |
| 04:02.11 | worthy952 | ok :-) |
| 04:02.32 | grendal_prime | menu.lst |
| 04:02.53 | Ugly_Duck | are there any other fsck type programs for linux? |
| 04:03.08 | grendal_prime | probably hundreds |
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| 04:03.40 | grendal_prime | google fsck type programs for linux |
| 04:03.44 | duco | how can I download skype net? |
| 04:03.58 | grendal_prime | you dont add the repository and use aptitude to install |
| 04:04.08 | grendal_prime | that was for duco |
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| 04:04.15 | grendal_prime | you want repo address? |
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| 04:04.28 | Gimp_ | how do i get a list of packages i have recently installed? |
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| 04:05.00 | sid | Gimp_: You don't. |
| 04:05.06 | grendal_prime | # deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free |
| 04:05.10 | Gimp_ | sid: uhh... well... that sucks. |
| 04:05.15 | sid | Gimp_: How did you install them... apt-get synaptics or aptitude? |
| 04:05.33 | Gimp_ | o.O i used apt-get of course |
| 04:05.48 | sid | Gimp_: So login as root(the user you install things as)..and then just press up. |
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| 04:06.02 | sid | or login as root and cat ~/.bash_history|grep -- "apt-get install" |
| 04:06.05 | tilrman | history | grep apt-get # ick! |
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| 04:06.21 | Ugly_Duck | any one care to point out another fsck type app i might care to look at? |
| 04:06.30 | sid | !e2fsck |
| 04:06.37 | Gimp_ | sid: thanks! that cat + grep worked. |
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| 04:07.04 | leonardomol | hola |
| 04:07.07 | worthy952 | i need help editing my boot loadeder to add windows xp please |
| 04:07.31 | sid | worthy952: As root type "update-grub" |
| 04:07.41 | worthy952 | ok thanks |
| 04:08.07 | grendal_prime | duco, that work for you? |
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| 04:08.22 | sid | leonardomol: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. |
| 04:08.28 | sid | eh, the fucker left |
| 04:08.31 | sid | too impatient |
| 04:08.32 | worthy952 | that's it sid? |
| 04:08.38 | worthy952 | windows is added now? |
| 04:08.38 | sid | worthy952: It should be yes. |
| 04:08.43 | worthy952 | thanks |
| 04:08.44 | worthy952 | brb |
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| 04:08.47 | sid | worthy952: check /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 04:09.07 | duco | Idont understand much of ths |
| 04:09.17 | grendal_prime | he had that info sid..i dont think he gets it |
| 04:09.48 | grendal_prime | duco add that line, without the # in it to your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 04:10.17 | grendal_prime | duco then run aptitude. or synaptic if you have it installed. |
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| 04:10.46 | grendal_prime | duco update package list and search for skype it will be there and then install it. |
| 04:10.47 | sid | duco: www.skype.com |
| 04:11.01 | grendal_prime | if your sound card is supported it will work..its werid like that. |
| 04:11.07 | sid | grab the skype.deb file...and dpkg -i skye.deb |
| 04:11.11 | De_Mon | i'm trying to use update-apache2-modules --enable mod_proxy and it says no such module.. |
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| 04:11.26 | De_Mon | but it's in mods-available/ |
| 04:11.28 | grendal_prime | install the module De_Mon |
| 04:11.46 | grendal_prime | needs a shortcut to it in the mods-enabled |
| 04:11.55 | grendal_prime | and then restart the server |
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| 04:12.07 | De_Mon | ya.. but update-apache2-modules.. |
| 04:12.08 | Ugly_Duck | different question: can i reboot, then some how run fsck before the drive is mounted? |
| 04:12.14 | duco | Ihave only ubuntu and Ithink Ikant do much with it? |
| 04:12.26 | Ugly_Duck | shudown -F -r now <-- aint working |
| 04:12.39 | grendal_prime | duco, this is not ubuntu |
| 04:12.45 | grendal_prime | is there a damn ...hold on... |
| 04:12.50 | grendal_prime | !ubuntu |
| 04:12.50 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
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| 04:13.17 | grendal_prime | !Based On Debian |
| 04:13.17 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 04:13.25 | hawkeey | I have a computer that needs some not yet fully packaged drivers to connect to the net |
| 04:13.31 | rue_home | GPG error: http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available |
| 04:13.37 | rue_home | course of action? |
| 04:13.50 | rue_home | ignorance? |
| 04:14.15 | hawkeey | namely the computer requires bcm5700-source and to be packaged i945 |
| 04:14.25 | grendal_prime | !secure apt |
| 04:14.25 | hawkeey | what is the best way to conduct an install? |
| 04:14.46 | grendal_prime | one hand on your privates? |
| 04:14.49 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 04:14.51 | sid | lol |
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| 04:14.55 | mhall | I switched to an SATA-II drive today. 80 MB/sec performance on my informal tests. |
| 04:15.10 | tilrman | Ugly_Duck: you can put something into your startup scripts (/etc/rcS.d/) |
| 04:15.20 | grendal_prime | thats the way i do it dude...when im replaceing a novel or windows box with samba.. |
| 04:15.31 | duco | yes Iknow but iam down loading many things through ubuntu and Idont even know what I am doing |
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| 04:16.05 | grendal_prime | duco you should have told me that in the beginning..i could have started ingnoring you then instead of now |
| 04:16.09 | hawkeey | duco: go to the ubuntu chatroom then |
| 04:16.11 | grendal_prime | mthrfkr |
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| 04:16.31 | hawkeey | duco: type /join #ubuntu |
| 04:16.55 | tilrman | Ugly_Duck: Look in S10checkroot.sh and S30checkfs.sh for places you might set variables to force a fsck |
| 04:17.23 | Ugly_Duck | tilrman: i mean, can i not reboot into a shell without having to mount the filesystem? |
| 04:17.23 | grendal_prime | and hope you can walk up to that box at somepoint... |
| 04:17.28 | mhall | !+bloody sunday # @ grendal_prime |
| 04:17.51 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 04:17.55 | hawkeey | ok than keeping one hand on my privates, what is the best way to install software with "not yet packaged" or "source-only" drivers? |
| 04:17.58 | grendal_prime | what did i do? |
| 04:18.04 | mhall | grendal_prime: people like this always appear on sunday |
| 04:18.07 | tilrman | Ugly_Duck: well, youll have to mount at least a root filesystem, but not necessarily the usual root filesystem |
| 04:18.11 | grendal_prime | ooooo |
| 04:18.16 | chealer | hawkeey: what do you mean by "to be packaged i945"? drivers for what exactly? |
| 04:18.18 | mhall | grendal_prime: (wasn't your fault), was just meaning it was meant for your own humor =) |
| 04:18.25 | grendal_prime | hahaha |
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| 04:18.40 | Ugly_Duck | tilrman: ahh, i could boot up off a knoppix cd and run a fcsk on it, never htought of that till now |
| 04:18.42 | grendal_prime | well...i guess its good...makes my questions look...well not totally lame all of the sudden |
| 04:19.05 | grendal_prime | its like Whew...im not as bad off as i thought hahaha |
| 04:19.12 | tilrman | Ugly_Duck: yay knoppix :-) |
| 04:19.21 | duco | join ubuntu |
| 04:19.22 | rredd4 | debian has a live cd yet? |
| 04:19.26 | hawkeey | chealer: I have an Intel Pro/Wireless 3945 , debian currently does not have drivers for it yet |
| 04:19.27 | Gimp_ | alright, whos willing to help a n00b out with mail server stuff? I've got popa3d and exim4 installed, i just don't know how to make them work now |
| 04:19.51 | grendal_prime | duco...excatly like this /join #ubuntu |
| 04:19.55 | mhall | hawkeey: for real? there was _some_ kind of way to do that nicely |
| 04:20.19 | mhall | hawkeey: i think installing latest 2.6 is the ticket |
| 04:20.38 | grendal_prime | ya....i would get a 2.6 on it... |
| 04:21.03 | mhall | hawkeey: lemme grep my 2.6 |
| 04:21.09 | hawkeey | ok, recommended way to use a 2.6 install |
| 04:21.17 | hawkeey | does 2.6 install kernel support SATA? |
| 04:21.18 | grendal_prime | im a really bad source of wireless card info though. |
| 04:21.36 | sid | What is a simple cli program I can use to identify information about an audio/video file? |
| 04:21.41 | sid | (not the file command) |
| 04:21.45 | grendal_prime | just install a 2.6 prepackaged kernel. |
| 04:22.05 | rue_home | what package is apt-policy from? |
| 04:22.17 | mhall | hawkeey: ya, i use VIA SATA 1 controller in 2.6 right now |
| 04:22.26 | grendal_prime | sid mplayer will give you that info.. |
| 04:22.33 | mhall | hawkeey: i just added the right driver to my handmade kernel this afternoon |
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| 04:22.49 | mhall | hawkeey: but note that it comes in the default kernel because people want to install onto sata of course |
| 04:22.59 | mhall | hawkeey: so don't get the idea you'll have to compile one |
| 04:23.11 | sid | grendal_prime: yea but mplayer has 40 dependencies that total over 40 megs probably... |
| 04:23.19 | mhall | sid: i've been wondering that a while myself |
| 04:23.20 | sid | Do I need all that to identify what type of video a file is. |
| 04:23.23 | hawkeey | mhall: ok, I saw people having problems with the 2.6 kernel and SATA online, but perhaps that is in the past |
| 04:23.38 | hawkeey | ipw3945-source is a package that looks like Intel is trying to get into Debian |
| 04:23.45 | grendal_prime | sid..i dont link so.. |
| 04:23.48 | grendal_prime | hold on ill check |
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| 04:24.05 | mhall | hawkeey: well maybe it depends on the controller, and 2.6 is kind of odd, because... they changed the way they make kernels |
| 04:24.26 | mhall | hawkeey: they use a much more traditional code syncing tool as opposed to a patch-based model |
| 04:24.52 | mhall | hawkeey: so they do not hack on the major and minor revision number as much, because they test with test kernels |
| 04:25.10 | hawkeey | mhall: ok |
| 04:25.12 | chealer | rue_home: do you mean apt-cache policy? |
| 04:25.36 | hawkeey | At this point, I think I can technically do this, but I might have to compile some stuff outside of the Debian package tree |
| 04:25.37 | rue_home | oh hhehe |
| 04:25.41 | mhall | hawkeey: so, what this means for you of course, is... old 2.6 is unusually old |
| 04:25.55 | sid | grendal_prime: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ZLtOQr98.html |
| 04:26.09 | grendal_prime | 4977kb but ya there is a shitload of stuff that goes with it. |
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| 04:26.16 | mhall | hawkeey: note what ls -l of the 2.6 directory of ftp.kernel.org shows as the modification time |
| 04:26.47 | grendal_prime | ya |
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| 04:27.26 | grendal_prime | i dont know sid i was looking for something that would give me info on an avi some time back..and what i found was mplayer. |
| 04:27.53 | grendal_prime | and then i had to fire it up and limit it to one frame or something like that. |
| 04:28.00 | sid | I know I could use mplayer...(mplayer -identify file.blah)...but there must be something not as large/robust.(small/fast/easy) |
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| 04:29.40 | rue_home | how do I find out what version of debian my system thinks it is? |
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| 04:29.44 | vars | sid what kinds of info do you need? |
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| 04:30.35 | sid | vars: The audio / video codec...bitrate of each. aspect ratio |
| 04:30.40 | rue_home | what version is 3.1? |
| 04:30.44 | sid | sarge |
| 04:30.45 | sid | !3.1 |
| 04:30.45 | dpkg | i guess 3.1 is sarge |
| 04:30.49 | rue_home | thanks |
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| 04:30.57 | sanxiyn | !3.2 |
| 04:31.01 | sid | hehe |
| 04:31.12 | sid | !3.2 |
| 04:31.12 | dpkg | from memory, 3.2 is etch |
| 04:31.43 | chealer | dpkg: since when? |
| 04:31.52 | chealer | dpkg: factinfo 3.2 |
| 04:31.53 | dpkg | 3.2 -- last modified 2s ago by sid!n=eth8274@unaffiliated/kerplunk. |
| 04:31.53 | sid | !3.2 |
| 04:31.53 | dpkg | 3.2 is probably going to be etch...when it is released(estimated time when I wrote this factiod was december 2006) |
| 04:32.09 | sanxiyn | !factinfo 2.3 |
| 04:32.09 | dpkg | 2.3 -- created by jor <jor@kabel064015.kabel.utwente.nl> at Mon Nov 27 19:32:31 2000 (2001 days); it has been requested 28 times, last by nkuttler at Tue Nov 8 05:42:24 2005. |
| 04:32.11 | chealer | dpkg: forget 3.2 |
| 04:32.16 | sanxiyn | !2.3 |
| 04:32.16 | dpkg | from memory, 2.3 is going to be woody. But it's not released yet. It's also the unstable Linux kernel series, which became 2.4 |
| 04:32.22 | sid | chealer: psh...my 3.2 was fine |
| 04:32.22 | sanxiyn | Eh. |
| 04:32.25 | chealer | hehe |
| 04:32.39 | chealer | sid: since when is Etch going to be Debian 3.2? |
| 04:32.43 | sanxiyn | dpkg, 2.3 is not woody. |
| 04:32.44 | dpkg | ...but 2.3 is already something else... |
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| 04:32.51 | chealer | dpkg: forget 2.3 |
| 04:32.51 | dpkg | chealer: i forgot 2.3 |
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| 04:33.07 | hawkeey | what's going on with this module-assistant stuff |
| 04:33.16 | sanxiyn | chealer: I think Etch will be version 3.2... can't remember where I read that though. |
| 04:33.43 | chealer | sanxiyn: OK, if you can find a reference it can be teached again |
| 04:33.54 | sid | chealer: I dunno I made it up and assumed. |
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| 04:34.15 | chealer | sid: I assume it's better forgotten |
| 04:34.31 | chealer | hawkeey: what m-a stuff? |
| 04:34.44 | john_xzyxzy | I want to install telnet service in my debian system, what package should I installed? |
| 04:35.20 | sid | chealer: * 3.1 ? sarge, 6 June 2005 // * 3.0 ? woody, 19 July 2002 // * 2.2 ? potato, 15 August 2000 // * 2.1 ? slink, 9 March 1999 // * 2.0 ? hamm, 24 July 1998 // * 1.3 ? bo, 2 June 1997 // * 1.2 ? rex, 12 December 1996 // * 1.1 ? buzz, 17 June 1996 |
| 04:35.21 | chealer | john_xzyxzy: did you try $ apt-cache search telnetd ? |
| 04:35.22 | sid | seems to fit |
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| 04:35.59 | sid | It won't warrant >3.1 ... and they aren't using more then the tenth decimal place. |
| 04:36.03 | sid | It's a good assumption. |
| 04:36.16 | matju | i am trying to install debian-stable and i have trouble with RAID. |
| 04:36.16 | matju | the partitioner wants to have RAID1 device #0 as one big chunk as if it |
| 04:36.16 | matju | didn't have a partition table, yet when i tell it to create 4 partitions |
| 04:36.16 | matju | it says that it failed creating the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, \ |
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| 04:36.18 | chealer | sid: seems to be a guess |
| 04:36.26 | sid | But that's all it is....a guess. |
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| 04:36.31 | sid | That's why dpkg said "guess" |
| 04:36.33 | matju | (oops) |
| 04:36.33 | sanxiyn | sid: Once there was discussion about whether Etch should be 3.2 or 4.0. |
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| 04:37.12 | matju | i am trying to install debian-stable and i have trouble with RAID. the partitioner wants to have RAID1 device #0 as one big chunk as if it didn't have a partition table, yet when i tell it to create 4 partitions it says that it failed creating the 2nd, 3rd and 4th, ... |
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| 04:37.36 | john_xzyxzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.36 | john_xzyxzy | francine - an extremely configurable console login program |
| 04:37.36 | john_xzyxzy | heimdal-servers - Servers for Heimdal Kerberos |
| 04:37.36 | john_xzyxzy | inetutils-telnetd - Telnet server |
| 04:37.36 | john_xzyxzy | krb5-telnetd - Secure telnet server supporting MIT Kerberos |
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| 04:37.47 | matju | ... but i look with fdisk /dev/md/0 and i see them... so it's partitioned correctly, but the curses-based partition manager refuses to acknowledge this, so i can't install debian. any ideas? |
| 04:38.10 | Prax01D | Has anybody figured out how to test the integrity of .djvu files? Or is djvudump the best there is? |
| 04:38.35 | rue_home | does anyone have problems compiling 2.4.22 with gcc 4.0.2-2? |
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| 04:38.43 | onetinsoldier | john_xzyxz: try just telnet |
| 04:38.44 | iLLf8d | good evening all |
| 04:39.03 | rue_home | cause I am and I kernel guys are telling me gcc is screwed |
| 04:39.32 | iLLf8d | can someone tell me how to tie my lpr queue to a cups printer? seems mozilla can find the cups network printer (its on my local lan) but lpr isn't tied to the system or the appropriate queue? |
| 04:39.48 | rue_home | so the current version of gcc for sarge is broken |
| 04:40.02 | rue_home | because it cant compile kernel 2.4.22 |
| 04:40.58 | chealer | rue_home: yes, gcc is broken in sarge. Linux too, and the coreutils. it will be fixed in the next version. meanwhile, you can use gentoo |
| 04:41.20 | sanxiyn | chealer: Oh, really? |
| 04:42.01 | chealer | sanxiyn: of course...those funny Debian RMs thought 3 years was enough to produce a stable release |
| 04:42.01 | rue_home | obvoiusly not he answer I want |
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| 04:42.28 | sanxiyn | chealer: gcc seems to work for me on Sarge... |
| 04:42.30 | rue_home | I want to know why I get |
| 04:42.31 | rue_home | /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/include/asm/processor.h:75: error: array type has incomplete element type |
| 04:42.42 | chealer | sanxiyn: </sarcasm> |
| 04:42.44 | rue_home | when i try to compile a brand new copy of 2..22 |
| 04:42.46 | rue_home | 2.4.22 |
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| 04:43.07 | chealer | rue_home: why are you trying to compile Linux? |
| 04:43.12 | hawkeey | rue_home: where did you get the linux source from? |
| 04:43.14 | rue_home | I asked in #kernel, they say I have a bad version of gcc |
| 04:43.14 | Mas | hello guys |
| 04:43.15 | Prax01D | sigh. |
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| 04:43.38 | Mas | does anyone can help me to access my usb flashdisk in simply mepis? |
| 04:43.38 | rue_home | I'm trying to recompile my kernel |
| 04:43.42 | rue_home | I do that every so often |
| 04:43.50 | rue_home | and I will for a long time |
| 04:44.14 | rue_home | go ahead, say the kernel source is broken, I dare ya |
| 04:44.21 | sanxiyn | rue_home: Kernel is broken. |
| 04:44.31 | sanxiyn | rue_home: The issue even has Kernel bug number. |
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| 04:44.56 | sanxiyn | rue_home: To be exact, Kernel bug #5478 WILL_NOT_FIX. |
| 04:45.00 | chealer | rue_home: do you have anything to motivate us to help you compile an insecure Linux version rather than simply using a stock kernel? |
| 04:45.14 | onetinsoldier | wtf? |
| 04:45.29 | onetinsoldier | are you trying to say that compiling your own kernel is insecure? |
| 04:45.37 | rue_home | I like it compiled the way _I_ want it |
| 04:45.56 | chealer | onetinsoldier: [00:44] <rue_home> 2.4.22 |
| 04:45.59 | hawkeey | rue_home: where did you download the kernel source from |
| 04:46.21 | hawkeey | rue_home did you download the source from kernel.org or the debian source package |
| 04:46.25 | rue_home | its the kernel I'm using its downlaoded from ftp.kernel.org I wanted to change an option |
| 04:46.41 | hawkeey | rue_home: use the debian source package and change the option there |
| 04:46.43 | sanxiyn | rue_home: YOU CANT COMPILE KERNEL 2.4 WITH GCC 4! |
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| 04:51.52 | Johnny_5 | how do i get lame and how do i compile it so i can use grip? |
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| 04:53.47 | iLLf8d | guess not heh |
| 04:53.50 | sid | !tell john about marillat |
| 04:53.57 | sid | JohnDoh: What version of debian are you running? |
| 04:54.09 | chealer | !tell Johnny_5 about lame |
| 04:54.40 | Johnny_5 | thanx |
| 04:54.58 | sid | JohnDoh: Do you know what version of debian you run? |
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| 04:55.48 | rue_home | I dont want kernel 2.6 |
| 04:55.48 | rue_home | the keybaord never works |
| 04:56.12 | rue_home | and they changed around all the option locations |
| 04:56.15 | sanxiyn | rue_home: Use GCC 3.x to compile Kernel 2.4! |
| 04:56.16 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 04:56.22 | onetinsoldier | so why not try 2.4.27? |
| 04:56.22 | sanxiyn | GCC 4 will never work. |
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| 04:56.27 | mick_linux | hi everyone, i have just apt-get dist-upgraded on a box and I'm getting |
| 04:56.30 | mick_linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.33 | mick_linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.36 | mick_linux | damn p[aste |
| 04:56.38 | rue_home | and th new versions dont support ipchanins properly |
| 04:56.46 | rue_home | it wouldn't help |
| 04:56.47 | sanxiyn | rue_home: Are you listening |
| 04:56.48 | TTalen | I was having problems with DL140 G2 installing debian, i found it was the 2.6 kernel I selected that was causing the problems, once I went back to the default 2.4 the problem went away, I was going to build a 2.6 kernel from sources and see if it was just missing something important but I noticed the latest one in sarge is 2.6.8-2 unless I want to use em64t which I want to avoid 64 bit. Should I be ok downloading the stable 2.6 fro |
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| 04:56.53 | rue_home | I dont know why I have 4, its proabbaly cause soemthing needed it |
| 04:56.56 | liable | mick_linux: /topic |
| 04:57.01 | rue_home | I never _just_ upgrade |
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| 04:57.16 | sanxiyn | rue_home: make CC=gcc-3.3 |
| 04:57.17 | vars | hey i have lilo how can i install grub? |
| 04:57.22 | onetinsoldier | you may have more than one version of gcc on your system |
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| 04:57.51 | rue_home | ok, how do I downgrade gcc then? |
| 04:57.55 | pritisd_ | which distro of linux yu re using |
| 04:57.58 | onetinsoldier | you don't need to |
| 04:58.08 | sanxiyn | rue_home: You install GCC 3.x together with GCC 4.x. |
| 04:58.11 | liable | vars: install it with apt, run grub-install /dev/foo |
| 04:58.11 | onetinsoldier | try what sanxiyn shows |
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| 04:58.39 | onetinsoldier | you can have more than one version of gcc on your system... try ls -l /etc/alternatives cc |
| 04:58.46 | chealer | TTalen: your message is truncated at "Should I be ok downloading the stable 2.6 fr" |
| 04:58.55 | onetinsoldier | then.... ls -l /usr/bin/gcc* |
| 04:58.55 | TTalen | from kernel.org |
| 04:58.56 | vars | liable, where should my foo be? |
| 04:59.22 | rue_home | oooo |
| 04:59.30 | rue_home | I think thats working |
| 04:59.32 | TTalen | This is for a server, I want to test drbd, but i don't want to be stuck with 2.4 kernel if i can avoid it |
| 04:59.34 | mick_linux | liable: ya? /me looks |
| 04:59.50 | TTalen | but the default 2.6 kernel just panics unable to find /dev/console |
| 04:59.50 | mick_linux | ahhh |
| 04:59.53 | mhall | !tell hawkeey about nvidia one-liner |
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| 05:00.07 | mhall | hawkeey: there's an idea of how it'd work for one kind of module |
| 05:00.26 | mhall | hawkeey: note the m-a commands |
| 05:01.11 | liable | vars: what drive is your / on? |
| 05:01.29 | vars | ok htat one |
| 05:01.36 | vars | cool |
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| 05:01.58 | chealer | TTalen: could you elaborate on your strategy? recompiling stuff doesn't magically fix stuff |
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| 05:02.22 | chealer | TTalen: are you trying to get a 2.6 Linux version newer than 2.6.8.1? |
| 05:02.28 | TTalen | chealer that's why I was asking, I was afraid it wouldn't fix it |
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| 05:02.52 | TTalen | Well, I know the default images for 2.6.8-2 didn't work and the default images are generally pretty generic |
| 05:03.06 | TTalen | so i am concerned there may be a more fatal flaw with 2.6 but I can't imagine that would be so |
| 05:03.39 | TTalen | I was also thinking it may j ust be something with 2.6.8-2 and a newer one may just work fine. |
| 05:03.55 | mhall | TTalen: please talk about your hardware |
| 05:04.20 | TTalen | HP DL140 G2 2G TG3 network (broadcomm) onboard sata |
| 05:04.29 | mhall | TTalen: ok. what cpu? |
| 05:04.31 | rue_home | I have this awesome full size atx tower... |
| 05:04.34 | mhall | TTalen: how many of that cpu? |
| 05:04.42 | rue_home | I have a 200G mirrored raid array |
| 05:04.43 | mhall | TTalen: i386 or x86_64? |
| 05:04.44 | TTalen | 1 cpu, 2.8 |
| 05:04.46 | TTalen | i386 |
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| 05:04.54 | mhall | TTalen: ok what debian version |
| 05:05.01 | TTalen | dual capable, 3.1 r2 |
| 05:05.13 | mhall | rue_home: i'm going to use my hp job starting next month to buy a san |
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| 05:05.27 | mhall | rue_home: i just powered up a samsung sata II 300 gb today |
| 05:05.40 | mhall | rue_home: nice fucking drive, 80 mb/sec on large file i/o with xfs |
| 05:06.00 | rue_home | :803: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' |
| 05:06.26 | mhall | rue_home: better crack out a manual |
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| 05:07.31 | vars | hey i am getting a /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly error |
| 05:07.38 | mhall | vars: what changed |
| 05:07.39 | rue_home | how do I downgrade gcc |
| 05:07.43 | mhall | vars: how did it start to happen |
| 05:07.50 | mhall | rue_home: what's the problem exactly |
| 05:08.07 | onetinsoldier | rue_home: read the man page for update alternatives |
| 05:08.10 | onetinsoldier | oops |
| 05:08.11 | mhall | rue_home: you can update-alternatives or repoint /usr/bin/gcc |
| 05:08.14 | mhall | onetinsoldier: got it |
| 05:08.19 | onetinsoldier | rue_home: read the man page for update-alternatives |
| 05:08.23 | vars | i am on a new install and grub didn't install but i had an option for installing lilo so i did that |
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| 05:08.30 | onetinsoldier | mhall: ok.. roger |
| 05:08.37 | mhall | vars: but... it's trying to read grub |
| 05:08.52 | mhall | onetinsoldier: ya, you can help too of course, was trying to save you the trouble of the typo fix |
| 05:08.58 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
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| 05:09.01 | chealer | TTalen: it's possible to get Linux sources from kernel.org on Debian. but I can't say that just compiling the latest 2.6 Linux version on sarge would work well (particularly regarding initramfs tools) |
| 05:09.03 | vars | yeah i ether want grub or a way to select a 2.4 kernal with lilo |
| 05:09.17 | rue_home | without trying to remove it, how can I find out what depends on the version of gcc I have? |
| 05:10.06 | chealer | rue_home: from the packages you have installed? |
| 05:10.17 | TTalen | Think I am better off with different distro? I have some experience with debian from a while ago, I am mainly freebsd guy but to mess with drbd I need to be using linux |
| 05:10.33 | TTalen | seems debian has a lot of non-standard issues with compiling kernels |
| 05:10.55 | rue_home | chealer, yup |
| 05:11.04 | TTalen | or am I better of just building the latest version availalbe from stable |
| 05:11.07 | chealer | rue_home: do you use synaptic? |
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| 05:11.17 | onetinsoldier | well i compiled my own custom kernel-2.6.16.16 no problem |
| 05:11.26 | rue_home | no |
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| 05:12.36 | TTalen | I was downloading 2.6.16-17 and following the falko debian-guide (which recommends to download latest from kernel.org) I'm just concerned that this may not even fix the problem with it hanging up missing root on boot |
| 05:12.54 | chealer | rue_home: would apt-get -s remove be an option? |
| 05:12.55 | hawkeey | mhall: thanks for all of your help |
| 05:13.33 | rue_home | I just learned that when a new version of gcc is isntalled, the old version isn't removed |
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| 05:14.35 | chealer | TTalen: you would probably be better trying testing than a different Linux distro...if you really can't install a newer Linux version on sarge |
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| 05:15.53 | mick_linux | liable: thanks |
| 05:15.57 | TTalen | seems debian is a chosen platform for drbd installs |
| 05:16.41 | onetinsoldier | rue_home: to show reverse depends..... apt-cache showpkg <package_name> |
| 05:16.47 | chealer | TTalen: actually, it looks like there are Linux 2.6.16 backports for sarge |
| 05:16.47 | mhall | what is drbd |
| 05:16.49 | mhall | !drbd |
| 05:16.54 | mhall | dpkg: hello |
| 05:16.54 | dpkg | privet, mhall |
| 05:17.00 | mhall | dpkg: drbd? |
| 05:17.01 | TTalen | block device replication between servers |
| 05:17.13 | TTalen | pretty powerful for clustering |
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| 05:18.38 | onetinsoldier | !drbd |
| 05:18.38 | liable | mick_linux: no problem |
| 05:18.46 | onetinsoldier | nothing |
| 05:18.52 | TTalen | www.drbd.org |
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| 05:18.58 | onetinsoldier | ok |
| 05:19.03 | TTalen | it is basically raid 1 over two pcs |
| 05:19.11 | onetinsoldier | TTalen: thanks |
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| 05:21.55 | onetinsoldier | dpkg DRBD is a block device which is designed to build high availability clusters. This is done by mirroring a whole block device via (a dedicated) network. You could see it as a network raid-1. It is basically raid 1 over two pcs. |
| 05:21.55 | dpkg | okay, onetinsoldier |
| 05:22.19 | TTalen | Sounds about right |
| 05:22.22 | onetinsoldier | !drbd |
| 05:22.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, drbd is a block device which is designed to build high availability clusters. This is done by mirroring a whole block device via (a dedicated) network. You could see it as a network raid-1. It is basically raid 1 over two pcs. |
| 05:22.30 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 05:22.32 | TTalen | you cannot write on the slave at this point |
| 05:22.39 | sid | mhall: a simple gpl windows program seems to exist for what we want... http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en |
| 05:22.42 | mhall | oh my god, they upgraded something in konsole and the font rendering is BEAUTIFUL and FAST |
| 05:22.49 | mhall | awesome awesome awesome |
| 05:22.50 | TTalen | so it is mainly for fail over, but you can do two way |
| 05:22.58 | onetinsoldier | cool |
| 05:23.04 | TTalen | have one master for one block device and one master for the 2nd |
| 05:23.05 | mhall | sid: ya hold on i forgot about our project let me do some searches |
| 05:23.14 | onetinsoldier | nice :) |
| 05:23.15 | TTalen | and basically split the applications |
| 05:24.01 | TTalen | like one block device for mySQL which one is a master for and the other one has mysql stopped and block device unmounted, the other one runs apache while the mysql one has apache stopped with that block device unmounted |
| 05:24.10 | mhall | sid: libfile-mimeinfo-perl - Perl module to determine file types |
| 05:24.13 | TTalen | that's similar to what i am looking to build |
| 05:24.16 | mhall | sid: libfile-mmagic-perl - Perl module to guess file type |
| 05:24.48 | mhall | sid: some possible ones, i'm still looking |
| 05:25.37 | mhall | sid: checkmp3 - identify MP3s that do not follow the MP3 format |
| 05:26.06 | onetinsoldier | TTalen: so your working on it then? |
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| 05:26.50 | TTalen | Not the project, just testing it out |
| 05:26.58 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 05:27.04 | TTalen | over using mySQL master-master replication |
| 05:27.14 | TTalen | which I would be doing using freebsd |
| 05:27.21 | onetinsoldier | i see |
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| 05:39.15 | TTalen | wow, debian supports hamachi? |
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| 05:39.20 | sid | !hamachi |
| 05:39.22 | simonrvn | !info hamachi |
| 05:39.22 | sid | !hamachi |
| 05:39.22 | dpkg | well, hamachi is a zero-configuration virtual private networking (VPN) freeware application. It is the first VPN application capable of establishing direct links between computers that are both NATed without requiring NAT reconfiguration. Currently available as a beta version for Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X and Linux |
| 05:39.22 | sid | TTalen: hamachi developers support linux...debian doesn't support hamachi |
| 05:39.23 | TTalen | Sid, I saw a hamachi module in the kernel |
| 05:39.23 | sid | hamachi is non-free software...so I would imagine debian doesn't like hamachi considering debian's beliefs in free software |
| 05:39.23 | TTalen | so I was surprized |
| 05:39.25 | TTalen | i thought it was a windows only thing |
| 05:39.25 | simonrvn | 'surprised' |
| 05:39.25 | TTalen | thanks webster |
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| 05:39.32 | simonrvn | nick isn't webster ;p |
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| 05:40.55 | ohad | i know it's an odd question for #debian but does anyone know how to setup similar to .htaccess on iis6? |
| 05:41.05 | TTalen | IISPassword |
| 05:41.21 | ohad | TTalen - waht is that? |
| 05:41.35 | TTalen | IIS Package that implements something similar to .htaccess |
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| 05:41.39 | TTalen | isapi module |
| 05:41.47 | TTalen | works pretty godo |
| 05:42.17 | Johnny_5 | after i compile lame do i need to log out for it to work? |
| 05:42.24 | simonrvn | no |
| 05:42.27 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 05:42.28 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 05:42.34 | Johnny_5 | hmm... |
| 05:42.34 | TTalen | that would be lame wouldn't it? |
| 05:42.43 | Johnny_5 | heh |
| 05:43.46 | LunarC | what a lame joke |
| 05:44.06 | ohad | TTalen - i tried to setup similar to .htaccess with the auth and access control module and now i can't reach that folder. i always get a prompt and it never accepts my user and pass - ideas how to eliminate that thing and only use the iipassword thingee? |
| 05:44.11 | dli | /etc/init.d/gdm stop , doesn't return to console, just hangs in X |
| 05:44.35 | Johnny_5 | i went into the dir lame-3.97 then i ./configure then i make then i make install.... |
| 05:44.47 | TTalen | how did you implement the module? |
| 05:44.52 | Johnny_5 | then i tried grip out and still get the same results |
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| 05:45.10 | Johnny_5 | ?? |
| 05:45.18 | foo | err, my NFS shares freeze. I have no idea why... I can't umount them ... keeps saying device is busy but it is not |
| 05:45.27 | foo | nfs: server 192.168.0.2 not responding, still trying |
| 05:45.28 | foo | err |
| 05:45.40 | ohad | TTalen, which module? |
| 05:46.20 | SubStack | bleh, apt let me install libapache2-mod-perl2 without apache2 |
| 05:46.25 | teledyn | Johnny_5: what result? |
| 05:46.36 | TTalen | how did you cause it to prompt you? |
| 05:46.38 | SubStack | set up the init scripts and everything |
| 05:46.53 | SubStack | just didn't have the main binary |
| 05:47.28 | TTalen | Is Intel PIIXn support what i need to support ICH5/ICH5R? |
| 05:47.46 | sep | !ich5 |
| 05:47.46 | dpkg | i heard ich5 is modprobe ata-piix |
| 05:48.11 | ohad | TTalen - under the auth and access control option on the security directory tab- i unchecked "enable annoymous access" and checked the "intergrated win auth" and teh "basic auth" |
| 05:48.14 | Johnny_5 | invalid encoder excutable check your encoder config |
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| 05:48.26 | onetinsoldier | TTalen: it's one of the things you need. |
| 05:48.39 | TTalen | oh you need to turn on anony again, and set the correct account to it |
| 05:48.52 | TTalen | otherwise it will always ask |
| 05:48.58 | TTalen | onetinsoldier, do I need another piece as well? |
| 05:49.02 | onetinsoldier | yes.. |
| 05:49.11 | onetinsoldier | you will have to hang on for me to find it |
| 05:49.18 | teledyn | Johnny_5: what not use marillat lame? |
| 05:49.39 | Johnny_5 | i don't follow |
| 05:49.46 | ohad | TTalen - what is the correct account? I don't have the passwording of the internet guest user |
| 05:49.47 | ohad | :/ |
| 05:49.56 | Johnny_5 | is that a differnt version? |
| 05:50.07 | teledyn | !tell Johnny_5 about marillat |
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| 05:50.16 | tarzeau | is it not possible to even just provide the diff.gz of the package from http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html ? |
| 05:50.21 | tarzeau | and the dsc |
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| 05:50.40 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:50.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 05:50.53 | EsotericASDFASDF | hey ppl...i have a few general questions about the 64 bit version of debian |
| 05:51.03 | tarzeau | EsotericASDFASDF: which? |
| 05:51.06 | tarzeau | EsotericASDFASDF: alpha? |
| 05:51.08 | EsotericASDFASDF | is it true that u cant run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit distro |
| 05:51.11 | EsotericASDFASDF | etch |
| 05:51.20 | tarzeau | yes but which architecture? |
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| 05:51.28 | tarzeau | ia64? amd64? kfreebsd-amd64? |
| 05:51.33 | EsotericASDFASDF | amd64 |
| 05:51.35 | TTalen | you can just change the password but if you do, you need to disable automatic syncro |
| 05:51.40 | tarzeau | yes you can't |
| 05:52.26 | ohad | TTalen how do i do that? and why? |
| 05:52.27 | EsotericASDFASDF | ~[ tarzeau ]~ hmmm so wine wont work...and even native games (quake3,quake4) wont work |
| 05:52.41 | tarzeau | EsotericASDFASDF: so what? you can use the 32bit version |
| 05:52.42 | TTalen | Well when you put the internet guest account back in the box it will ask you for a password |
| 05:52.51 | TTalen | you can also use adsutil.vbs script to help you |
| 05:53.04 | TTalen | the password is automatically controlled by windows typically |
| 05:53.04 | mhall | goddamn postfix is fast! |
| 05:53.17 | mhall | EsotericASDFASDF: your nickname describes itself |
| 05:53.19 | TTalen | isn't it ;) |
| 05:53.19 | EsotericASDFASDF | ~[ tarzeau ]~ i just figured if i had a 64 bit processor i would notice a performance increase with a 64 bit distro? |
| 05:53.29 | mhall | ~nickometer EsotericASDFASDF |
| 05:53.37 | ohad | TTalen - so how and why do i need to disable sync? |
| 05:53.41 | TTalen | Esot, not much really |
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| 05:53.53 | EsotericASDFASDF | ~[ TTalen ]~ ok thanks |
| 05:54.06 | mhall | EsotericASDFASDF: *some* performance increase due to the fact there are twice the registers |
| 05:54.09 | TTalen | ~nickometer TTalen |
| 05:54.27 | mhall | EsotericASDFASDF: but... which app and what are your subsystems like |
| 05:54.31 | TTalen | ~nickometer mhall |
| 05:54.36 | TTalen | haha |
| 05:54.55 | TTalen | must be my double TT's |
| 05:55.01 | EsotericASDFASDF | thanks for your help guys |
| 05:55.19 | TTalen | ~nickometer Talen |
| 05:56.03 | cunak | can I get some help mounting a data cd image (.img)? I know it has something to do with mount and loopback, but Im not quite sure how |
| 05:56.13 | onetinsoldier | TTalel: i'm having truoble finding what I'm looking for, but i'll let you know when i do |
| 05:56.24 | sigjuice | hi. I just upgraded from testing to unstable and I can't log on with kdm any more |
| 05:56.39 | simonrvn | !nickmeter Talen |
| 05:56.39 | dpkg | Talen is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 05:56.54 | ohad | TTalen? i changed the password. for the internet guest account. what next? i inserted it in the place where i needed to under the security directory., restarted the iis server.. now what? |
| 05:57.09 | sigjuice | /var/log/syslog says kdm_greet[6614]: Can't open default user face |
| 05:57.32 | simonrvn | when did this become #windowshelp? |
| 05:57.32 | sigjuice | and kdm: :0[5249]: Can't save user authorization in home dir |
| 05:57.35 | mick_linux | i've been battling w/ ssl + apache2 for a while now, I've followed this: http://mario.espaciolinux.com/apache2_ssl.html and i see he missed the part where i'm supposed to symlink the mods-available and mods-enabled ssl stuff (similar to what was done for the sites-* stuff). |
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| 05:57.56 | mick_linux | i get errors about "SSLEngine On" |
| 05:57.58 | sid | mick_linux: /join #apache |
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| 05:58.31 | mick_linux | i figured that it might be a debian-specific thing (as i thought they would send me here) ;) |
| 05:58.43 | TTalen | is it libata? |
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| 06:00.18 | cunak | Ive managed to attach a data cd image to /dev/loop0, but how do I mount it? it always says bad fstype, but ive tried em all |
| 06:01.39 | sigjuice | !365710 |
| 06:02.01 | onetinsoldier | TTalen: found it |
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| 06:02.56 | sigjuice | cunak: I just use mount foo.iso /mnt/bar -o loop, no need to much with /dev/loop0 |
| 06:03.13 | TTalen | Does it begin with an l? |
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| 06:03.15 | sigjuice | s,much,muck |
| 06:03.19 | ferronica | wow |
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| 06:03.31 | onetinsoldier | TTalen: I2C support ---> I2C Hardware Bus support ---> <*> Intel 82801 (ICH) |
| 06:03.42 | ferronica | can any one help me out how to delete file from homefolder |
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| 06:03.50 | jerware | fellaz. |
| 06:04.03 | TTalen | ahh yes |
| 06:04.06 | ohad | TTalen - how do i stop the sync ? |
| 06:04.11 | jerware | i am attempting to install ndiswrapper and i get this when i make it with make and even with m-a http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/FYDZnm20.html |
| 06:04.16 | jerware | as in module assistant |
| 06:04.44 | jerware | well i downloaded a new tar and i get that as well with using just make |
| 06:04.50 | TTalen | Thanks onetin |
| 06:04.58 | ohad | TTalen =- i keep getting the same prompt still after i've modified the password for the internet user and restarted iis. |
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| 06:05.08 | ohad | (i hate iis) |
| 06:05.10 | jerware | i deflated it to /usr/src/ |
| 06:05.11 | onetinsoldier | TTalen: you're welcome :) |
| 06:05.15 | jerware | which deflated it to /ndiswrapper...versionetc |
| 06:05.28 | TTalen | Did you set the password under the website when you pointed to the iis anonymous account? |
| 06:05.45 | ferronica | can any one help me out how to delete file from homefolder |
| 06:05.59 | ferronica | how to get permission |
| 06:06.22 | jerware | rm <filename> |
| 06:06.23 | ohad | TTalen - yes. i reentered the password for the internet user |
| 06:06.45 | ohad | TTalen - the new password i setup for that user. |
| 06:06.51 | mhall | cunak: is it a funny image? |
| 06:07.11 | mhall | cunak: if so you probably need bchunk |
| 06:07.22 | mhall | cunak: run file on it and see what it is |
| 06:07.54 | ferronica | jerware: didnt worked |
| 06:08.05 | mhall | mick_linux: better to use ... a2enmod |
| 06:08.38 | mhall | jerware: winnt_types.h:125:2: #error "gcc 3.4 or newer should be used for compiling this module" |
| 06:08.50 | mhall | jerware: relink /usr/bin/gcc to gcc-3.4 or better |
| 06:08.54 | ferronica | jerware: when i delete it gives me error ,u donot hav a permission to del or remove it |
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| 06:09.37 | jerware | ferronica: do you have access to super user or root account? |
| 06:09.53 | davis | hello |
| 06:09.55 | jerware | thats the whole point of permissions. so unauthorized users cannont delete files. |
| 06:09.59 | ohad | TTalen - any additional options to remove this annoying auth prompt? |
| 06:10.00 | ferronica | jerware: i am the onlyuser |
| 06:10.14 | jerware | mhall: how do i relink? |
| 06:10.30 | jerware | and according to gcc -v i have 3.4 |
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| 06:11.08 | cunak | mhall: hey thats a handy command. i'll have to remember that. It says "data". |
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| 06:12.03 | ferronica | can any one help me out how to delete file from homefolder |
| 06:12.26 | jerware | nm i have 3.3.5 |
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| 06:13.03 | cunak | ferronica: terminal command for deleting stuff is "rm" use option "-r" for folders. |
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| 06:13.12 | davis | hello, i want to dpkg-reconfigure ssh so that it enables ssh1, however dpkg-reonfigure ssh does nothing. What ami doing wrong? |
| 06:13.49 | onetinsoldier | davis: might try dpkg-reconfigure -plow ssh |
| 06:13.53 | Rodietze | when compiling a program using xlib, what do I use as an argument to gcc? -lXlib ? |
| 06:14.29 | exobyte | do most OSes support async IO? Does FUSE? |
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| 06:14.39 | davis | onetinsoldier: tanks |
| 06:14.46 | onetinsoldier | davis: your welcome |
| 06:14.51 | davis | onetinsoldier: thanks |
| 06:14.59 | onetinsoldier | tanks for ebby ting |
| 06:15.09 | davis | lol |
| 06:15.13 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 06:15.37 | davis | i figure a help, deserves a proper thank you. |
| 06:15.39 | jerware | gcc -v says i have version 3.3.5 but apt-get install gcc-3.4 says i have the latest. |
| 06:15.55 | onetinsoldier | cool... you're welcome |
| 06:16.04 | jerware | how do i relink /usr/bin/gcc to gcc-3.4 or better |
| 06:16.14 | onetinsoldier | you can give me some karma if you like... ;-) |
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| 06:17.20 | onetinsoldier | !Ur-Quan Masters |
| 06:18.38 | ferronica | cunak: i am trying a delete .jpg image from home folder |
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| 06:19.24 | blondie | ferronica: rm file.jpg |
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| 06:19.59 | onetinsoldier | dpkg Ur-Quan Masters is The project a port of the 3DO version of Star Control II started in August 2002, when Toys For Bob released the partially ported sources of Star Control 2 3DO version to the fan community. Our goal is to port this wonderful game to current personal computers and operating systems. http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:20.00 | dpkg | okay, onetinsoldier |
| 06:20.03 | vaibhav | what is the channel for c and c++ , sorry to bother but couldn't find it |
| 06:20.11 | Phated | #c? |
| 06:20.39 | liable | ##c? |
| 06:20.41 | lewellyn | hoi. this may or may not be the best place to ask this, but it seems the only appropriate place on freenode... |
| 06:20.50 | onetinsoldier | dpkg forget Ur-Quan Masters |
| 06:20.50 | dpkg | i forgot ur-quan masters, onetinsoldier |
| 06:20.50 | ferronica | cunak: no such file or directory |
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| 06:21.03 | lewellyn | does anyone know where to get a sarge image for colinux? alternatively, how hard is it to upgrade from woody to sarge? |
| 06:21.12 | vaibhav | ok thanx |
| 06:22.05 | liable | lewellyn: /msg dpkg wood->sarge |
| 06:22.09 | liable | woody. |
| 06:22.16 | lewellyn | thank you :) |
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| 06:23.18 | lewellyn | hrm. that says it doesn't work for 30% of users; is that still accurate? |
| 06:23.29 | lewellyn | and how long is it likely to take? |
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| 06:24.29 | gdp | Hi. I have a fresh instalation of stable debian, and apt cant update or find any sources. Actually, when i run apt-setup, all mirrors have ip "1.0.0.0", no matter which one I choose. BUT i can ping websites, so the connection is working. Anyone know what the problem might be? |
| 06:25.08 | sep | gdp, your dns is on drugs ? check your /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 06:25.35 | liable | lewellyn: depends how much stuff you have installed, and of course on your connection |
| 06:25.37 | gdp | sep; nameserver points to my gateway |
| 06:25.42 | gdp | thats the only thing in it |
| 06:26.09 | onetinsoldier | dpkg Ur-Quan Masters is a project to port the 3DO version of Star Control 2 game to personal computer operating systems started in August 2002, when Toys For Bob released the partially ported sources of Star Control 2 3DO version to the fan community. Currently at version 0.5.0 which works very nicely. You may want to have a gamepad type contoller. http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:26.09 | dpkg | onetinsoldier: okay |
| 06:26.12 | sep | gdp, is your gw a dns server? test it with host/nslookup/dig |
| 06:26.13 | gdp | oh, and its set to "search" |
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| 06:26.45 | gdp | sep; no, its only a dhcp server. |
| 06:26.56 | lewellyn | liable: i have no clue. this is the default colinux image :) |
| 06:27.00 | sep | gdp, read man resolv.conf |
| 06:27.26 | lewellyn | what editors would be installed by default, i seem to have no vi, so i can't edit /etc/network/interfaces so that i can get online :) |
| 06:27.47 | gdp | sep; see, the problem is not my connection, thats working fine. its apt that's gone crazy |
| 06:28.04 | vaibhav | nano @ lewellyn |
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| 06:28.21 | davis | onetinsoldier: i tried dpkg-reconfgiure -plow ssh but it did the same thing. It simply came back with the promot. Do I have to do this on the server, or can I use it via a ssh connection to the server? Also what does plow mean? It does not show up in dpkg-reconfigure man page. |
| 06:28.30 | lewellyn | thankee |
| 06:29.32 | sep | gdp, apt just uses your dns servers. |
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| 06:30.22 | gdp | mmm, ok. Would it work tho, if I set the DNS server in resolv.conf, if i'm gonna go thru a router which is gonna set it to that anyway? |
| 06:30.31 | sep | gdp do a host <servername> <ip of gateway> repalce servername with the servernames in your sources.list and ip of gateway is obvious |
| 06:30.46 | gdp | ok, ty, brb |
| 06:31.01 | lastnode | is there an easy guide to creating a .deb? |
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| 06:31.46 | onetinsoldier | davis: it means to ask every question again... just as if the package is being installed for the first time -plow = ask LOW(and higher) priority questions .in other words... as all questions |
| 06:31.49 | onetinsoldier | *ask |
| 06:32.09 | gdp | sep; sources.list only has my CD-ROM listed as a source :S |
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| 06:32.45 | davis | onetinsoldier: i wonder why it does not aks them again then. i will try on server. |
| 06:32.57 | cunak | This disk image is some non-standard custom windows program format that i've managed to mount on my macOS with Toast. Does debian have a program like toast? |
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| 06:33.09 | onetinsoldier | davis: ok.... i don't know why it's not. perhaps doing it on the server will work |
| 06:33.39 | gdp | sep: and i done seem to have a "host" command |
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| 06:33.53 | davis | onetinsoldier: unfortunatley it did the same thing. |
| 06:34.01 | onetinsoldier | hmmm....! |
| 06:34.05 | sep | gdp, try dig them |
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| 06:34.07 | onetinsoldier | it should work! |
| 06:34.12 | jerware | why wont apt-get relink /usr/bin/gcc to the lastest installed version of gcc on it's own? |
| 06:34.12 | jerware | this sucks |
| 06:34.15 | jerware | i dont know how to do this manually |
| 06:34.25 | davis | btw, is there a #debian-developer channel? |
| 06:34.36 | onetinsoldier | dunno |
| 06:34.39 | onetinsoldier | i doubt it |
| 06:34.56 | lastnode | jerome, symlink? |
| 06:35.19 | davis | i would like to help debian man pages maintenance. |
| 06:35.25 | gdp | sep; that isnt working either |
| 06:35.56 | onetinsoldier | davis: try this.... |
| 06:35.56 | sep | gdp, well when you have fixed your sources.list you can install them with apt-get. :) |
| 06:36.05 | gdp | lol |
| 06:36.06 | davis | for instance, dpkg-reconfigure mentions -pvalue and it says to see ddebconf(7) but man 7 debconf does not exist. |
| 06:36.12 | gdp | ok, so i just add the mirrors? |
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| 06:36.32 | gdp | whats the syntax for adding sources in source.list? |
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| 06:36.49 | sep | gdp, man sources.list, or have apt-setup do it for you |
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| 06:37.00 | onetinsoldier | davis: i doubt this will do anything... but you can try,, dpkg-reconfigure openssh-client (or openssh-server) |
| 06:37.04 | lastnode | !sources |
| 06:37.04 | dpkg | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to /etc/apt/sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, |
| 06:37.09 | gdp | apt-setup isnt working, thats were the problam began =/ |
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| 06:37.17 | lastnode | gdp, see above |
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| 06:37.35 | gdp | lastnode, sep; cheking into it |
| 06:37.39 | lastnode | gdp, http://http.us.debian.org is usually fine, what do you want in particular? |
| 06:37.43 | Falkom | hi, I need to compile a vanilla kernel and my question is there is a .config basic to run with Debian, please? |
| 06:37.44 | onetinsoldier | davis: you don't have debconf installed!?!? |
| 06:37.55 | davis | openssh-server simply says "Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd" |
| 06:38.06 | onetinsoldier | davis: do dpkg -l debconf |
| 06:38.12 | davis | i have debconf installed. |
| 06:38.20 | lastnode | Falkom, any particular reason you want to roll a vanilla? |
| 06:38.26 | davis | its ii |
| 06:38.27 | onetinsoldier | hmmm... 'man debconf' works for me! |
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| 06:38.45 | onetinsoldier | davis: what version of debian you running? |
| 06:38.51 | Falkom | I need to start a sun cassini netowrk card :-( |
| 06:38.58 | davis | man debconf works for me, but it is section 1 not se tion 7. |
| 06:39.08 | davis | also it does not list priority options. |
| 06:39.10 | davis | sid |
| 06:39.20 | onetinsoldier | mine is also.... section 1 |
| 06:39.33 | onetinsoldier | sid eh? hehe |
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| 06:39.42 | Mitosh | wow, I got 2.6.16.17 to boot up on this box |
| 06:39.43 | lastnode | which repo would checkinstall be in? |
| 06:39.45 | jerware | when gcc points to gcc-3.4 is that a hard link or a soft link ? |
| 06:39.53 | lastnode | Mitosh, like to live on the edge huh? |
| 06:39.56 | onetinsoldier | davis: cool. but running sid could be a reason for having issues |
| 06:39.59 | Mitosh | in debian, when the default image of 2.6 didn't work |
| 06:40.04 | gdp | lastnode; the problem is not that i cant find a package or something. Whenever I at-setup or apt-get update, it said "connecting to http://whatever.the.mirror (1.0.0.0) 0%" |
| 06:40.06 | gdp | says* |
| 06:40.24 | lastnode | gdp, use the default mirrors - http://http.us.debian.org |
| 06:40.28 | Mitosh | lastnode, I tried installing debian using 2.6 kernel it came with on an HP DL140 and it would kernel panic, only worked with 2.4 |
| 06:40.41 | gdp | lastnode, thats what im using |
| 06:40.42 | Mitosh | so I figured i would try custom making a 2.6 kernel and see if it would work |
| 06:40.45 | lastnode | Mitosh, cool |
| 06:40.53 | lastnode | gdp, that's really wierd, it's never been a problem fo rme |
| 06:41.03 | lastnode | Mitosh, what was your patch? |
| 06:41.12 | Mitosh | I didn't do any patch |
| 06:41.18 | sep | gdp what happen when you try to ping whatever.mirror.com you get real ip or 1.0.0.0 then too |
| 06:41.19 | Falkom | do you know where I can get information about kernel and Debian, please? |
| 06:41.28 | gdp | sep; i get a real IP |
| 06:41.29 | lastnode | !kernel |
| 06:41.31 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.16.17, prepatch: 2.6.17-rc4, snapshot: 2.6.17-rc4-git9, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre3, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.17-rc4-mm2 |
| 06:41.39 | gdp | sed; and the packages transfer correctly |
| 06:41.46 | Falkom | about his configuration and tips and advices, please :-) |
| 06:41.58 | lastnode | !kernel compile |
| 06:41.58 | dpkg | rumour has it, kernel compile is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 06:42.05 | Mitosh | Falkom, http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_kernel_2.6_compile_debian |
| 06:42.22 | Falkom | thx you very very much :-) |
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| 06:43.28 | elitist_phoenix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:43.48 | elitist_phoenix | /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb ext3 u=rwx,g=rwx,o=rwx 0 0 - Its line from the fstab |
| 06:43.51 | TTalon | just follow the "instructions" on backports |
| 06:44.03 | gdp | elitist_phoenix, make sure you have added "users" to that drive in fstab |
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| 06:44.37 | sep | gdp no cacheing daemon or anything like that ? |
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| 06:44.52 | gdp | sep; mmm, i dont know. Which probably means no |
| 06:45.03 | elitist_phoenix | /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb ext3 u=rwx,g=rwx,o=rwx,users 0 0 |
| 06:45.09 | elitist_phoenix | ? |
| 06:45.11 | lastnode | how can i get an old package of locales? |
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| 06:45.31 | gdp | elitist_phoenix, instead of the whole, u=, g=, o=, just add "users" |
| 06:45.46 | elitist_phoenix | ok, i'll try now :) |
| 06:45.52 | gdp | ;) |
| 06:45.55 | liable | gdp: putting your proper dns servers in there should fix it, but i dont know why its only apt that doesnt working with your router in resolv.conf |
| 06:46.11 | lastnode | how can i get an older version of localews? |
| 06:46.12 | sep | gdp, no that measn you should check :) |
| 06:46.41 | sep | !snapshot |
| 06:46.41 | dpkg | well, debian snapshot is http://snapshot.debian.net/ |
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| 06:47.46 | gdp | sep; sorry, but.. check how? |
| 06:47.54 | jerware | if ln makes a link to a directory, how can i make a link to a file? |
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| 06:49.04 | sep | gdp, try using your real dns servers first |
| 06:49.13 | onetinsoldier | ln can make link to dirs.... and files. either one and it's syntax is the same for doing either |
| 06:49.46 | mhall | jerware: the only tricks to ln are you must link symbolically to dirs and when going across FSes |
| 06:49.58 | mhall | jerware: and you can link hard for files on the same OS |
| 06:50.05 | jerware | well im attemptig to link gcc to gcc-3.4 |
| 06:50.07 | mhall | jerware: hard is generally better when you can do it |
| 06:50.17 | jerware | and i get gcc is there |
| 06:50.24 | mhall | jerware: remember command is kinda odd. opposite order of cp. |
| 06:50.25 | elitist_phoenix | mount (command) gives - /dev/hdb2 on /mnt/hdb type ext3 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) |
| 06:50.26 | onetinsoldier | ln -sv gcc-3.4 gcc |
| 06:50.33 | jerware | yes |
| 06:50.38 | mhall | jerware: also must delete pre-existing link before making new one. |
| 06:50.41 | jerware | ln gcc gcc-2.3 |
| 06:50.43 | onetinsoldier | ls -l gcc |
| 06:50.49 | jerware | so rm gcc first? |
| 06:50.53 | onetinsoldier | yes |
| 06:50.54 | jerware | oh ok |
| 06:50.57 | jerware | i will try that |
| 06:50.58 | onetinsoldier | OR |
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| 06:51.02 | mhall | jerware: yes. it will not delete real gcc of course |
| 06:51.06 | onetinsoldier | ln -sfv gcc-3.4 gcc |
| 06:51.18 | mhall | onetinsoldier: careful with -f |
| 06:51.24 | onetinsoldier | yep.. careful |
| 06:51.27 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 06:51.28 | mhall | onetinsoldier: leads to many a UNIX abomination |
| 06:51.33 | jerware | shouldnt that be the other way around? link target |
| 06:51.33 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 06:51.40 | gdp | sep; isnt there something like /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart? |
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| 06:51.57 | onetinsoldier | target <link_name> |
| 06:51.58 | sigjuice | hi. I just upgraded from testing to unstable and I can't log on with kdm any more |
| 06:52.03 | jerware | oh ok |
| 06:52.24 | TTalon | Anyone using DRBD? |
| 06:53.21 | omry|work | anything wrong with the gnome meta package on etch? |
| 06:53.31 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: please be more specific. "can't log in" could mean you hit your keyboard with a hammer and can't type the letters. |
| 06:53.33 | sep | gdp, /etc/initr. |
| 06:53.39 | sep | gdp, /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 06:53.53 | sep | gdp or ifdown eth0 ;ifup eth0 |
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| 06:54.15 | gdp | thanks |
| 06:54.18 | sigjuice | SerajewelKS: I type in my login and password and I get back to kdm |
| 06:54.28 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: what happens if as root you do.... /etc/init.d/kdm start |
| 06:54.29 | jerware | yay it worked! it worked ! |
| 06:54.40 | liable | gdp: no need to restart networking after editing resolv.conf |
| 06:54.42 | onetinsoldier | jerware: awesome :-) |
| 06:54.46 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: okay, so you *can* log in, you just haven't picked a session, or the session you're using is crashing |
| 06:54.50 | jerware | thanx |
| 06:54.55 | cahoot | mhall: should relinking gcc be enough? how about c++? |
| 06:54.58 | onetinsoldier | welcome |
| 06:55.00 | sigjuice | .xsession-errors is empty |
| 06:55.07 | jerware | strange how apt-get didnt do this it'self |
| 06:55.09 | onetinsoldier | welcome to mhall too |
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| 06:55.19 | jerware | yea thanx both of yas |
| 06:55.21 | sigjuice | /var/log/syslog says kdm_greet[6614]: Can't open default user face |
| 06:55.25 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: go to a VT, login as yourself, and type: xinit `which startkde` -- :1 |
| 06:55.29 | jerware | my over all goal is to get ndiswrapper installed |
| 06:55.37 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: assuming you're using KDE, because this is a known problem with testing/unstable |
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| 06:56.18 | gdp | sep; i can ping anything but debian mirrors.... thats weird |
| 06:56.29 | gdp | ping http.us.debian.org does nothing |
| 06:56.41 | gdp | but ping debian.org returns a normal ping |
| 06:56.50 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: does it dump you back to the console? |
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| 06:56.58 | onetinsoldier | if you're running 'teasting'.. a.k.a etch... what should /etc/debian_version show? |
| 06:57.02 | mhall | cahoot: yea that's not a bad idea |
| 06:57.09 | onetinsoldier | oops... *testing |
| 06:57.11 | mhall | cahoot: but his code was 100% C so i did not think of it |
| 06:57.15 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: testing/unstable |
| 06:57.29 | cahoot | mhall: was just curious anyway |
| 06:57.40 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: ok thanks. just a little confusing, becuase it says both |
| 06:57.52 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: read the "/" as "and/or" |
| 06:57.58 | mhall | cahoot: such consideration of the effects of one's choices is wise |
| 06:57.59 | onetinsoldier | ok.. roger |
| 06:58.19 | mhall | cahoot: so do not intepret my remarks are criticism, for you discovered an omission in what i said |
| 06:58.33 | sigjuice | SerajewelKS: The KDE splash screen is stuck at 'Setting up interprocess communication' |
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| 06:58.57 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: kill it with ctrl+alt+bksp and look at the console messages. do you see a message about missing symbol FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden? |
| 06:59.59 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: kde is supposed to broken in testing? |
| 07:00.18 | elitist_phoenix | after remounting it does seem to follow the instructions in the fstab |
| 07:00.30 | onetinsoldier | or shuold i say.... is supposedly broken? |
| 07:00.33 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: if you are using the latest libxft2, yes |
| 07:00.46 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: hmm, ok |
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| 07:01.02 | SerajewelKS | !dbugs 350113 |
| 07:01.05 | dpkg | DONE:#350113:G[libxft2] libxft2: "FT_GlyphSlot_Embolden" disappeared since version 2.1.7-1, apps depends on this!; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:03:07 UTC |
| 07:01.06 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: guess i'm not then becuase my kde works fine |
| 07:01.36 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: mine too, but i had to downgrade libxft2 and hold it |
| 07:01.46 | crazy_penguin | morning! //jo reggelt! |
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| 07:02.12 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: could be fixed by now, but i'm not going to risk it until -8 enters testing |
| 07:02.14 | onetinsoldier | ii libxft2 2.1.8.2-5.1 |
| 07:02.49 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: freetype might provide that symbol now... i'm not sure how this problem got worked out exactly |
| 07:02.59 | onetinsoldier | k |
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| 07:03.05 | sigjuice | SerajewelKS: thanks. Manually starting KDE with the command you suggested sort of helped. |
| 07:03.06 | prem__ | hi all, |
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| 07:03.28 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: if you regularly update every few days you would have noticed it several months ago when just about every GUI program died |
| 07:03.37 | Nemesat | hello all.. i did mkfs.ext3 on an lvm physical volume with logical volumes that I still need.. is it possible to pvcreate and lvcreate the appropriate volumes? will that recreate the metadata i need to mount the volumes? |
| 07:03.43 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: well, what does X display on the console when you kill it? any error messages from KDE? |
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| 07:03.59 | prem__ | trying to download amd64 with jigdo looks like there is no package libgnomeprintui2.2 in any of the dvd images ( i searched all the 3 ) |
| 07:04.02 | sigjuice | I got an error message that my disk was full. Everything works now. |
| 07:04.14 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: ah, you freed up some space? |
| 07:04.47 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: to clarify, you have some physical device used in an LVM, did mkfs on the physical device, and want to access the logical volumes again? |
| 07:04.48 | sigjuice | yup. kdm never displayed the "out of disk" dialog box. startkde did. |
| 07:05.07 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: nice, make sure your / and /tmp partitions aren't too full ;) |
| 07:05.21 | SerajewelKS | sigjuice: /tmp and /home actually |
| 07:05.32 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: i've only been running debian(linux) for less than a week now... other than i was experienced at it over three and a half years ago... at which time i ran sid! when i get to where i don't feel rusty anymore and that i can hadle any problem, like i used to ba able to, then i will run sid again! :-) |
| 07:05.47 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: ah, then you probably missed it a while back |
| 07:05.53 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS: it is a partition (/dev/sdb2) that I did pvcreate on, then lvcreate .. etc.. later I did mkfs.ext3 on /dev/sda2 and I dont know why, but I think it did mkfs on /dev/sdb2 instead |
| 07:05.54 | onetinsoldier | yep |
| 07:06.25 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: sure you didn't typo? don't blame the system for your mistake... |
| 07:06.41 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: anyway if you really did mkfs on sdb2 the LVM is toast |
| 07:06.41 | mhall | prem__: my experience with jigdo is 100% failure |
| 07:07.09 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: do you have seperate partitions? |
| 07:07.13 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS: trust me I am very sure :) I already saw this before.. I mounted /dev/sdb2 somewhere and had /dev/sda2 as root file system.. then if I touched a file on / it also changed on the other disk.. so I already experienced something weird like that before |
| 07:07.31 | onetinsoldier | arrghh... separate |
| 07:07.49 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS: that is another issue I can not understand and I would be very happy to someone to enlighten me as to how that occurred |
| 07:08.06 | sigjuice | onetinsoldier: I only got a 10 gig disk. I didn't bother with partitions. |
| 07:08.20 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: not really sure what's going on then. sounds like you're using RAID or something, you sure it's not hardware-mirrored? |
| 07:08.29 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS i have been experimenting with raid and lvm |
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| 07:08.42 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS at the time I did this, /dev/sdb2 was also /dev/md2 yeah |
| 07:08.53 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: RAID might be mirrored in hardware then, so writes to either drive would write to the other |
| 07:09.00 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS so basically /dev/sdb2 was /dev/md2 and I did pvcreate on /dev/md2 and then lvcreate on that physical volume |
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| 07:09.11 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS yeah but I dont -always- see this.. |
| 07:09.14 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: or something like that, at any rate, if it's mirrored you don't want to touch the second one |
| 07:09.14 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: then i believe you could free up some space with.... apt-get clean command |
| 07:09.25 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS and of course I looked at /proc/mdstat before I did anything to make sure the mirror was broken |
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| 07:09.40 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS yes you are right I had it mirrored, but I broke the mirror and failed /dev/sda2 before doing anything |
| 07:09.45 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: sorry, my understanding of RAID is fairly simple, so i don't think i can help. but my opinion is that your LVM is toast. |
| 07:09.54 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS so perhaps the raid wasnt entirely broken.... |
| 07:09.55 | sigjuice | onetinsoldier: I'll try that. |
| 07:10.10 | mhall | Nemesat: this is why you disconnect drives when you do such stuff |
| 07:10.17 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: ok. it might free up quite a bit of space for you |
| 07:10.26 | Nemesat | mhall: you mean physically disconnect? |
| 07:10.28 | mhall | Nemesat: i pray you did not lose too hideously much data |
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| 07:10.38 | mhall | Nemesat: yes i mean disconnect the data / power / both |
| 07:10.43 | Nemesat | mhall: i already am at peace with it, kinda...... but i had a hard time :P |
| 07:10.45 | mhall | Nemesat: it's the safest way |
| 07:11.02 | mhall | Nemesat: i upgraded to a 300GB SATA II today |
| 07:11.21 | Nemesat | I still think I can fix this... if nothing else.. I will do pvcreate again, then lvcreate.. if I am right that should not affect the data in those volumes.. |
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| 07:11.45 | mhall | Nemesat: and zeroed a 200GB PATA to return to its rightful owner from which i borrowed it to recover a fried click of death drive |
| 07:11.50 | Nemesat | then I will search for alternate backup superblocks in each of the logical volumes and do fsck |
| 07:11.58 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: aha, as of 21 Feb, a new freetype was forced into etch to fix it |
| 07:12.01 | mhall | Nemesat: best of lock to you |
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| 07:12.15 | Nemesat | mhall: thanks :) actually, the system I was working on is a sparc system |
| 07:12.28 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: ahh... roger. so you gonna upgrade now then. take it off hold? |
| 07:12.31 | Nemesat | mhall: that also makes things more difficult.. less precedent.. less info on that |
| 07:12.47 | onetinsoldier | SerajewelKS: what is your current version of kde? |
| 07:12.59 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: yes, i am |
| 07:13.03 | onetinsoldier | kewl |
| 07:13.07 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: KDE is up to date |
| 07:13.11 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 07:13.20 | mhall | Nemesat: yes, i used to use one |
| 07:13.21 | SerajewelKS | onetinsoldier: it was libxft2 that was bugged, just upgrading that single package |
| 07:13.27 | onetinsoldier | gotcha |
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| 07:13.33 | mhall | Nemesat: i was not especially pleased in the long term |
| 07:13.44 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS : and yes sure it is not hardware mirrored :) for a long time I had different file system layouts with different data on those disks |
| 07:14.01 | Nemesat | mhall: yeah.. thinking right now I should go back to intel hardware |
| 07:14.05 | mhall | Nemesat: it did not end very well for me so i placed that specific server back onto x86 |
| 07:14.10 | mhall | Nemesat: which sparc is it |
| 07:14.10 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: ah, ignore me then... making potshots in the dark |
| 07:14.22 | sigjuice | kde 3.5 feels real fast on my aging laptop |
| 07:14.24 | Nemesat | mhall: ultra sparc 5 .. 187 mhz or something.. |
| 07:14.35 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS no matter, thanks for caring to help! |
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| 07:14.56 | dfdf | hey is it possible to combine 2 internet connections together ? |
| 07:14.57 | dfdf | in essence increasing bandwidth |
| 07:15.10 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: can you get the same IP across both of them? |
| 07:15.19 | dfdf | no |
| 07:15.25 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: then probably not |
| 07:15.34 | dfdf | yah i figured it might be a long shot |
| 07:15.39 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: unless you want to load-balance entire streams |
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| 07:15.51 | dfdf | hmm what would that entail ? |
| 07:16.11 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: if your ISP does not drop packets with a forged "from" address, you can load-balance upstream, but downstream is going to come through one connection only |
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| 07:16.30 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: it would entail a lot of iptables or other kernel-related hacking |
| 07:16.42 | dfdf | thats gay |
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| 07:16.54 | dfdf | i want to leech from 2 or more of my neighbours ... and combine it ! :) |
| 07:16.56 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: it's open-source, you want it, you write it |
| 07:17.09 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: get two computers and download different things |
| 07:17.15 | dfdf | well yeah |
| 07:17.20 | dfdf | thats straight forward |
| 07:18.26 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: problem with load-balancing downstream is that you can only switch a whole stream between connections, as if it were divided the other end of the connection would need to be aware of this and send packets to two different IPs |
| 07:18.48 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: so you got it worked out? |
| 07:19.03 | dfdf | ok well figure it out ... and gt back to me with your solution |
| 07:19.05 | dfdf | get |
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| 07:19.17 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: there's nothing to figure out |
| 07:19.19 | dfdf | i'll be around |
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| 07:19.29 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: what you want it simply not possible |
| 07:19.35 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: is* |
| 07:19.46 | sigjuice | yes I did. Everything works. |
| 07:19.56 | dfdf | well see what you can do |
| 07:20.03 | dfdf | give me a best bet solution |
| 07:20.06 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: why should i do your work for you |
| 07:20.15 | dfdf | its not my work |
| 07:20.18 | dfdf | so dont ask me why |
| 07:20.23 | dfdf | well take yer time |
| 07:20.28 | dfdf | get back to me on it tho |
| 07:20.29 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: i'm not here to perform research on your behalf. you do it and if you need assistance, i will help. |
| 07:20.32 | SerajewelKS | !tell dfdf about enter |
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| 07:20.34 | dfdf | i'm counting on you |
| 07:20.38 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: cool. did the apt-get clean command free up space for you? |
| 07:20.52 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: go away |
| 07:20.53 | onetinsoldier | !lart dfdf |
| 07:21.00 | dfdf | sera that was gay |
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| 07:21.04 | dfdf | i know what the enter key is |
| 07:21.07 | dfdf | kapish ? |
| 07:21.16 | dfdf | ok its clear youa rent the one for the job |
| 07:21.20 | dfdf | youa rent |
| 07:21.22 | dfdf | gah |
| 07:21.28 | dfdf | tell me about the space bar |
| 07:21.30 | sigjuice | onetinsoldier: I didn't try it, but I'm sure it will free up some disk space. |
| 07:21.34 | streuner | !enter |
| 07:21.34 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 07:21.36 | SerajewelKS | dfdf: please stop scrolling |
| 07:21.43 | SerajewelKS | streuner: i just did |
| 07:21.48 | dfdf | be quiet |
| 07:21.49 | Nemesat | dfdf: http://tetro.net/misc/multilink.html |
| 07:21.50 | streuner | i know |
| 07:21.55 | SerajewelKS | !ops dfdf trolling |
| 07:21.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: dfdf trolling |
| 07:21.59 | dfdf | thanks nemesat |
| 07:22.22 | onetinsoldier | sigjuice: ok.. roger. at any good to hear your kde is working good for you on your aging laptop :) |
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| 07:23.01 | Falkom | I am configuring a firewall in debian and I want to ask if I remove ppp, portmap, inetd, lpd and nfs-common, I could have problems, please |
| 07:23.02 | onetinsoldier | *at any rate |
| 07:23.24 | tarzeau | Falkom: no you can remove them all |
| 07:23.24 | dfdf | hey fool dont say i am trolling just because you had no clue about a solution to my problem .... but nemesat saved the day ! |
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| 07:23.52 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: i doubt the intelligence here will be able to install a netfilter extension though... |
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| 07:23.52 | streuner | SerajewelKS: that's not a very good idea unless Gnea tried to get rid of somebody else and you don't have a very good reason |
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| 07:23.52 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS hehe :P |
| 07:23.52 | Madkiss | hu. |
| 07:23.52 | gdp | Hey. I have a problem with apt. apt-get update and apt-setup cant connect to any mirrors (they all appear as 1.0.0.0), but I can ping any other website just fine. This is on a fresh debian installation |
| 07:23.59 | tarzeau | gdp: fix your dns? |
| 07:24.00 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 07:24.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, tetrinet is multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 07:24.08 | onetinsoldier | Falkom: you on dial-up? |
| 07:24.08 | SerajewelKS | Madkiss: thank you |
| 07:24.13 | Falkom | no |
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| 07:24.39 | SerajewelKS | streuner: IMO telling someone to do your research is on the same level as trolling. rude, lazy... |
| 07:25.13 | onetinsoldier | Falkom: do not remove inetd |
| 07:25.27 | Falkom | why onetinsoldier, I comment all lines |
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| 07:25.47 | Falkom | in inetd.conf file |
| 07:25.59 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS he's left :P and he was a big ugly troll yup |
| 07:26.00 | gdp | tarzeau; fix how? resolv.conf has my router as nameserver, and my routers points to my real DNS server. It all works, i can ping as I said, all except apt |
| 07:26.19 | SerajewelKS | Nemesat: yeah now he's /msging me too. |
| 07:26.24 | tarzeau | gdp: what says host www.linuks.mine.nu ? |
| 07:26.26 | Nemesat | SerajewelKS me too :) |
| 07:27.03 | onetinsoldier | Falkom: ok.. blow it away if you want to then. but i think some other packages will depend upon it being installed |
| 07:27.09 | gdp | tarzeau I dont have "host" |
| 07:27.10 | sigjuice | how can I tell update-grub to stick vga=791 to my kernel arguments each time I run it? |
| 07:27.19 | tarzeau | gdp: telnet ? |
| 07:27.19 | Falkom | ok onetinsoldier you are right :-) |
| 07:27.30 | Falkom | thx you for you advice :-) |
| 07:27.38 | tarzeau | gdp: dig ? traceroute ? nslookup ? |
| 07:27.40 | gdp | sigjuice; add vga=791 too grub.conf |
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| 07:27.43 | onetinsoldier | Falkom: you're welcome |
| 07:28.00 | gdp | tarzeau; dig = same as host.. havent tried the other two, gimme a second |
| 07:28.05 | _Lewellyn | should this line be altered if i'm upgrading from woody to sarge?\ |
| 07:28.07 | _Lewellyn | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ stable kernel-image-2.6.6-i386 |
| 07:28.15 | tarzeau | gdp: no dig is another package and host is in two other packages |
| 07:28.18 | sigjuice | gdp: I don't think I have a grub.conf |
| 07:28.22 | Falkom | I only want to remove of rc files |
| 07:28.26 | tarzeau | gdp: obviously you don't have any of the important network tools installed... |
| 07:28.30 | Falkom | but you have more information |
| 07:28.34 | gdp | tarzeau; no nslookup or traceroute |
| 07:28.54 | tarzeau | they put so much junk into base, but no dns lookup tool |
| 07:29.00 | tarzeau | DEBIAN IS JUST HILARIOUS |
| 07:29.10 | tarzeau | gdp: well download and install one then |
| 07:29.13 | _Lewellyn | tarzeau: i just used ping instead ;) |
| 07:29.26 | tarzeau | gdp: try ping linuks.mine.nu |
| 07:29.29 | mentor | tarzeau: getent hosts foo |
| 07:29.32 | gdp | tarzeau, that works |
| 07:29.32 | RvGaTe | Gooooood morning people ! :)\ |
| 07:29.47 | gdp | actually it doesnt |
| 07:29.48 | gdp | :S |
| 07:29.55 | gdp | just hangs |
| 07:29.57 | tarzeau | gdp: what ip do you get? |
| 07:30.03 | gdp | none |
| 07:30.05 | tarzeau | gdp: well then your dns is broken and you need to fix it |
| 07:30.11 | onetinsoldier | Falkom: the rc files must remain unless you have removed the package... or if you want to do things manually, i believe you can remove rc files while leaving the package state as 'installed' |
| 07:30.11 | tarzeau | gdp: and when you fix it, apt will work |
| 07:30.28 | tarzeau | gdp: does your dns server work? |
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| 07:30.41 | gdp | if I put my real DNS server as "nameserver" in resolv.conf, would it really matter, if my router is gonna override it anyway as it is doing now? |
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| 07:30.47 | gdp | tarzeau yes |
| 07:30.51 | _Lewellyn | at the least can someone explain that line i pasted? |
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| 07:32.31 | sep | _Lewellyn, i would have removed that line yes. |
| 07:32.37 | _Lewellyn | ok thanks :) |
| 07:32.49 | _Lewellyn | i suspected that sarge has a newer kernel |
| 07:32.53 | sep | _Lewellyn, and read the relasenotes of sarge |
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| 07:33.14 | sep | i think it mentions commenting out such non official lines |
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| 07:33.25 | sep | !release notes |
| 07:33.25 | dpkg | well, release notes is http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/releasenotes |
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| 07:34.48 | _Lewellyn | sep: ya. i had found them. i was 2 clicks away already. |
| 07:35.28 | onetinsoldier | i'm running testing and i show a package as not configured/fully installed. kind of interesting seeing the following.... |
| 07:35.40 | onetinsoldier | ic netkit-inetd 0.10-10.3 The Internet Superserver |
| 07:35.41 | gdp | tarzeau; what do you mean by *fixing* my dns? if you mean adding my real dns server to resolv.conf, that wont do it, I already tried |
| 07:35.47 | mhall | ~nickometer _Lewellyn |
| 07:35.56 | SubStack | goddamnit I hate debian's menu system |
| 07:35.56 | onetinsoldier | ii openbsd-inetd 0.20050402-1 The OpenBSD Internet Superserver |
| 07:36.14 | SubStack | is there any way to disable it completely? |
| 07:36.25 | erps | apache2.. I'm getting: # curl https://localhost/ returns -"curl: (35) error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol" .. https does appear to be working remotely. But I do have: Invalid method in request \x80|\x01\x03\x01 and Invalid method in request \x16\x03\x01 .. in my error.log. WTF have I done wrong? |
| 07:36.26 | _Lewellyn | mhall: 14% is far better than many nicks :) |
| 07:36.30 | tarzeau | gdp: look getent hosts linuks.mine.nu must work |
| 07:36.40 | tarzeau | gdp: make it work, if it doesn't your dns is broken |
| 07:36.43 | prem__ | trying to download amd64 with jigdo looks like there is no package libgnomeprintui2.2 in any of the dvd images ( i searched all the 3 ) |
| 07:36.56 | servus | ~moo |
| 07:37.04 | apt | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ |
| 07:37.26 | TTalon | why does ich5 only show UDMA mode 66 available only when it can do mode 6 |
| 07:38.04 | sigjuice | gdp: I had to vga=791 to /boot/grub/menu.lst at the end of the line # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro and re-run update-grub |
| 07:38.13 | mhall | ~super cow powers |
| 07:38.14 | apt | rumour has it, super cow powers is "apt-get moo", or super cow powers include flying and speaking spanish, or mooing |
| 07:38.19 | erps | hm, I take that back, it's not working, bah. |
| 07:38.30 | SubStack | I hate it when applications have a high enough opinion of themselves that they put themselves in my damned menu |
| 07:38.31 | sigjuice | s,to,to add, |
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| 07:40.14 | onetinsoldier | TTalon: i think mines says it's using 100 when i boot |
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| 07:40.41 | TTalon | When I use hdparm I get 2.87mb/s with a brand new seagate 7200 and sata controller (ich5) |
| 07:41.05 | onetinsoldier | what hdparm command exactly? |
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| 07:41.34 | TTalon | I turn on mode 2 udma (all it says it supports which I know it does better than 33mb) 32 access, unmasking, multi 16 and i get 6.0mb but i know it should do better |
| 07:41.34 | Anndy | hey guys |
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| 07:41.54 | TTalon | I am doing this: hdparm -X66 -m16 -c3 -d1 -u1 /dev/hda |
| 07:42.06 | onetinsoldier | hmmm |
| 07:42.07 | TTalon | but it still runs like a turtle |
| 07:42.08 | Anndy | need help....first time using linux |
| 07:42.22 | onetinsoldier | hi Anndy |
| 07:42.32 | TTalon | -tT reveals around 6mb/s this drive should be considerably higher |
| 07:42.34 | onetinsoldier | just ask your question(s) |
| 07:43.31 | Anndy | i have installed testing ver with 2.6.00 kernel |
| 07:43.46 | Anndy | its a dell 700m laptop |
| 07:43.50 | onetinsoldier | you sure it's .00? |
| 07:44.05 | onetinsoldier | isn't it 2.6.8? |
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| 07:44.08 | onetinsoldier | or higher? |
| 07:44.12 | Anndy | no actually its 15 i guess |
| 07:44.16 | onetinsoldier | k |
| 07:44.21 | Anndy | not sure....but not zero |
| 07:44.26 | Phated | Don't guess - uname -r . |
| 07:44.29 | jerware | gcc is linked to gcc-3.4 but modual-assistant (m-a) is using gcc-3.3 for some reason. how can i correct this to use the latest version of gcc ? |
| 07:44.52 | Anndy | m not able to run GNOME |
| 07:45.13 | onetinsoldier | Anndy: yeah... there uyou go. run that command that Phated gave to find out if you need to.... uname -r |
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| 07:45.21 | Anndy | it gives me login screen...but after passing username and pass |
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| 07:45.33 | Anndy | nothing is comming |
| 07:46.04 | para_site | I did 'apt-get -b source <package-name>' , now I have some .debs , a .dsc and a .changes file , how do i install the package ? |
| 07:46.52 | loxley_ | para_site: are you going to make some changes to the conf files or something? |
| 07:47.01 | Phated | para_site: Why didn't you just do apt-get install? |
| 07:47.26 | para_site | I needed to compile from source |
| 07:47.41 | para_site | why would I want to make changes to the conf files ? |
| 07:47.44 | para_site | do I need to do that ? |
| 07:47.50 | loxley_ | para_site: apt-get install |
| 07:47.56 | Phated | Er, shouldn't you know -why- you need to compile from source? |
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| 07:48.07 | para_site | yes , but that doesn't install properly |
| 07:48.17 | Anndy | my kernel is 2.6.15 |
| 07:48.26 | onetinsoldier | TTalon: when booting what mode does the kernel show for udma for your hard drive? mine give the following message... but i don't have a sata drive if that make any difference |
| 07:48.30 | onetinsoldier | hda: 488397168 sectors (250059 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=30401/255/63, UDMA(100) |
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| 07:48.42 | onetinsoldier | hda: cache flushes supported |
| 07:48.52 | para_site | How is compiling source different from installing the binary ? |
| 07:49.24 | karsten | para_site: Um. In one you compile source, in the other you install a binary. |
| 07:49.33 | onetinsoldier | para_site: hmmm, i might have to try and think of how to answer that one |
| 07:49.38 | karsten | para_site: ... or a few minutes to a few hours, depending on the package. |
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| 07:49.51 | para_site | oh Come on guys |
| 07:49.59 | onetinsoldier | well what do you want to know? |
| 07:50.18 | para_site | I just wanted to know how to install the package from all those .debs that I have now |
| 07:50.26 | karsten | para_site: man dpkg |
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| 07:50.46 | para_site | dpkg -i wouldn't work because the packages are interdependent |
| 07:50.47 | dpkg | para_site: what are you talking about? |
| 07:50.50 | onetinsoldier | dpkg -i <package> |
| 07:50.55 | para_site | is there something like a groupinstall |
| 07:51.04 | onetinsoldier | yes... apt-get |
| 07:51.07 | karsten | para_site: dpkg -i <file list> |
| 07:51.13 | onetinsoldier | apt-get install <package> |
| 07:51.16 | karsten | para_site: You can install more than one package at a time. |
| 07:51.32 | karsten | onetinsoldier: s/he's got debs already. |
| 07:51.41 | para_site | but what about the .dsc file |
| 07:51.45 | para_site | and the .changes file |
| 07:51.49 | onetinsoldier | yep... dpkg -i <package> <package> <package> |
| 07:51.51 | karsten | para_site: Not of interest. |
| 07:52.09 | karsten | para_site: ... at least for installation. Read the debian package maintainer's guide for info. |
| 07:52.21 | para_site | will do |
| 07:52.46 | para_site | and its she ? thanks ppl |
| 07:52.54 | Anndy | m not able to run GNOME on debian testing ver. kernel is 2.6.15 and m/c is dell 700m |
| 07:53.01 | Anndy | can any one help |
| 07:53.05 | onetinsoldier | she? |
| 07:53.13 | karsten | Anndy: Feature! |
| 07:53.23 | Phated | Heh. |
| 07:53.25 | Anndy | ? |
| 07:53.29 | onetinsoldier | para_site: what are you referring to? the statement man dpkg |
| 07:53.31 | onetinsoldier | ??? |
| 07:53.32 | karsten | Anndy: /msg dpkg smart questions. |
| 07:53.43 | karsten | Anndy: ... what commands, what errors? /msg dpkg paster |
| 07:53.49 | para_site | the s/he has the debs |
| 07:53.56 | onetinsoldier | ok |
| 07:53.57 | para_site | that statement |
| 07:54.00 | karsten | Phated: What's your desktop these days, toots? |
| 07:54.10 | Phated | karsten: Openbox/OSX, why? |
| 07:54.13 | para_site | ubuntu |
| 07:54.13 | karsten | para_site: I attempt not to presume. |
| 07:54.16 | Anndy | i just finished installation...and now trying to login |
| 07:54.19 | karsten | Phated: Just curious. |
| 07:54.24 | Phated | karsten: Right. |
| 07:54.27 | mhall | Phated karsten: you two? in here? *gasp* |
| 07:54.33 | Phated | para_site: #ubuntu. |
| 07:54.39 | para_site | i tried that |
| 07:54.40 | Anndy | user login screen comes and when i pass user/pass it gose to ideal state |
| 07:54.40 | karsten | mhall: Whodathunkit? |
| 07:54.44 | Phated | mhall: Here long before anywhere else. |
| 07:54.45 | para_site | but they just didn't seem to know |
| 07:54.47 | Anndy | nothing is comming after that |
| 07:54.51 | para_site | or didn't respond |
| 07:55.02 | mhall | onetinsoldier: properly set up sata disks usually use libata --> scsi device names. |
| 07:55.07 | karsten | Anndy: login to console <ctrl><alt><F[1-6]> |
| 07:55.17 | Anndy | by the way this is the first time m using linux |
| 07:55.17 | onetinsoldier | ??? |
| 07:55.18 | mhall | onetinsoldier: this is because NCQ is not really supported by the IDE layer but by the SCSI layer |
| 07:55.18 | karsten | Anndy: ... less /var/log/Xorg.1.log |
| 07:55.25 | karsten | Anndy: Erm. Xorg.0.log |
| 07:55.27 | Anndy | okai |
| 07:55.33 | onetinsoldier | i think you are wanting to talk to TTalon |
| 07:55.48 | jerware | gcc is linked to gcc-3.4 but modual-assistant (m-a) is using gcc-3.3 for some reason. how can i correct m-a to use the latest version of gcc ? |
| 07:56.00 | karsten | Anndy: OK. You familiar with Unix, shell, comands, pipes, at all? |
| 07:56.12 | Anndy | u want those lines in that file? |
| 07:56.15 | onetinsoldier | mhall: but that is some good to know info... thanks |
| 07:56.15 | karsten | Anndy: ... "yes", "no", or "somewhat" are acceptable answers. |
| 07:56.23 | Anndy | little |
| 07:56.34 | Anndy | somewhat |
| 07:56.56 | mhall | onetinsoldier: NCQ -> native command queueing -> allows drive to pipeline requests much like a microprocessor would |
| 07:56.59 | karsten | Anndy: 'less' lets you view a file. 'less /var/log/Xorg.0.log' should page through your X session's output, which may or may not include errors. |
| 07:57.14 | mhall | onetinsoldier: except the advantage for drives is huger |
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| 07:57.36 | kupo | whats the easiest way to read a windows ntfs partition in etch ? |
| 07:57.39 | karsten | Anndy: Another thing to try is just plain 'X' from console. If you see a herringbone pattern and a large black 'X' mouse pointer appear on your screen, X is working right. |
| 07:57.49 | Phated | karsten: If it's a fresh install, it may not actually exist (X.org.) |
| 07:57.58 | karsten | kupo: mount it readonly: mount -t ntfs -r <partition> <mountpoint>. As root. |
| 07:58.05 | kupo | thank you |
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| 07:58.07 | karsten | Phated: Point, but he's got a login prompt. |
| 07:58.13 | karsten | Phated: Presumably gdm. |
| 07:58.26 | karsten | Phated: So it's probably just GNOME fucked up as usual. |
| 07:58.37 | onetinsoldier | mhall: are you sure you're wanting to talk to me? i didn't have any questions about sata. i did make a statement that i don't have a sata drive. i don't have any current problems with my old arse 'ide' drive.... lol |
| 07:58.46 | Anndy | see my system is booting in GUI mode only.....the problem is when i pass user/pass to system its not going any where |
| 07:59.13 | mhall | onetinsoldier: right i was just giving you some background info since you seemed like you wanted a bit of info on sata up above |
| 07:59.13 | karsten | Anndy: If we could talk you into an alternate X desktop, I'd recommend XFCE for starters, prefer KDE to GNOME for full-fledged desktops, and run windowmaker myself. You can run any set of apps under any of 'em, FYI. |
| 07:59.18 | onetinsoldier | mhall: and i do know a little bit about what NCQ is about... it's kind of like scsi command queing |
| 07:59.23 | karsten | Anndy: aptitude install xfce4 |
| 07:59.23 | jerware | module-assistant sucks |
| 07:59.26 | mhall | onetinsoldier: or because you were helping a sata user, i'm not sure which |
| 07:59.31 | mhall | jerware: not really |
| 07:59.36 | onetinsoldier | mhall: roger :) |
| 08:00.05 | jerware | mhall: it's not even using the version of gcc it's linked to |
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| 08:00.19 | karsten | Anndy: both GNOME and KDE are very complex, change frequently, and don't play particularly well with Debian (though they can generally be made to work). If you're dead set on getting GNOME running quickly and easily I'd recommend you look at Ubuntu at least until you have more experience. |
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| 08:00.26 | mhall | jerware: yes there could be a very good reason for that |
| 08:00.31 | karsten | Anndy: Ubuntu != Debian, but it's pretty close. |
| 08:00.42 | jerware | mhall: a good reason? |
| 08:00.48 | mhall | jerware: the makefiles, sometimes they get initialized with static valued by the configure script |
| 08:01.02 | Anndy | got it... |
| 08:01.11 | mhall | jerware: and it might well have statically configured itself to proceed with the arrangement that the old incorrect links represented |
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| 08:01.31 | foka | Hi there! Anybody attending LinuxWorld Shanghai? :-) |
| 08:01.35 | Anndy | but i was just thinking of giving one try atleast to make this system work which i have installed |
| 08:01.39 | karsten | Anndy: Welcome to the world of options ;-) |
| 08:01.39 | mhall | jerware: so it might be necessary to zap the ndiswrapper tree with rm and reconfigure it with m-a prepare |
| 08:02.01 | onetinsoldier | Anndy: sounds like something might not be set up for x-windows correctly yet. either that or gnome is not totally installed or configured yet. hard to know for sure. but, karsten was wating you to take a look at the file... /var/log/Xorg.1.log |
| 08:02.10 | jerware | mhall: how do i zap the ndiswrapper tree? |
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| 08:02.17 | Mitsui_Sam | hi all! |
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| 08:02.38 | karsten | Anndy: from console: see if you can start X ('X' or 'startx'), and if you can start a GNOME session ('startx gnome-session' IIRC). |
| 08:02.42 | jerware | i'll try m-a prepare |
| 08:02.42 | Mitsui_Sam | could anybody gimme a little help with iptables+iproute2? |
| 08:02.54 | onetinsoldier | Anndy: you can copy and paste the contents of that file in to a plce on the web called 'pastebin' so people can look at it and try to troubleshoot what's wrong |
| 08:03.07 | Anndy | actually its the same m/c on which i have installed debian also...rite now i loged in windows |
| 08:03.13 | karsten | Anndy: ... I suspect the first two of those will work and the third will throw errors. You want to let us know about the errors, I'll tell you how. |
| 08:03.13 | Mitsui_Sam | I can't put my traffic in two interfaces |
| 08:03.51 | Anndy | tell me that...i will restart my m/c get those lines and come back again |
| 08:03.54 | karsten | Anndy: m/c? |
| 08:04.11 | sep | Mitsui_Sam, it's not clear from your comunications what you are trying to acomplish |
| 08:04.14 | Anndy | its one m/c only running windows and linux |
| 08:04.19 | mhall | jerware: ya it usually stores the goodies in /usr/src |
| 08:04.25 | karsten | Anndy: what is "m/c"? |
| 08:04.40 | Anndy | machine...dell 700m laptop |
| 08:04.56 | karsten | Anndy: ... and "m/c" itself signifies what? |
| 08:04.58 | Mitsui_Sam | sep, I have two internet connection, I need to pass all web traffic (via squid) by eth0 and everything else by eth2 |
| 08:05.07 | Mitsui_Sam | but nothing that I tried works |
| 08:05.11 | Anndy | machine |
| 08:05.12 | onetinsoldier | karsten: i think he means 'system' |
| 08:05.20 | sep | !split access |
| 08:05.20 | dpkg | rumour has it, split access is when you have 2 networks connected to the same computer, with their separate default gateways, the dirst step in loadbalancing, http://yellowpigs.net/computers/multiple_subnets, or http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
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| 08:05.35 | karsten | onetinsoldier: Trying to clarify. Desi slang apparently. |
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| 08:05.41 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
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| 08:06.02 | sep | Mitsui_Sam, when you have network working you can configure squid to work on only the 1 interface |
| 08:06.08 | Mitsui_Sam | sep, I'll read |
| 08:06.26 | Mitsui_Sam | sep, exatcly what I need |
| 08:06.55 | Mitsui_Sam | but when I put squid to work I put pop and smtp down, nothing works |
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| 08:10.38 | boguh | hi, i want to have another boot entry in lilo. this entry should boot from another hard disk. boot now i get a syntax error when i have a second "boot=" entry |
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| 08:14.02 | Jeeves_Moss | all: good evining all. |
| 08:14.05 | jerware | prepare and update did not work. |
| 08:14.14 | jerware | m-a is still using old version of gcc |
| 08:14.41 | Jeeves_Moss | all: who is our load balancing and failover specilicest tonight? |
| 08:14.55 | nkuttler | boguh: man lilo.conf |
| 08:15.02 | karsten | !tell boguh about smart questions |
| 08:15.07 | rann | hi all, i noticed two big security updates for kernels 2.4.16 and 2.4.19. can we also expect these updates for the 2.6 series kernels in stable? |
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| 08:15.15 | karsten | boguh: /msg dpkg paster. Paste your lilo.conf there. |
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| 08:15.54 | boguh | nkuttler karsten workx, the boot options shows only the location of the mbr, man lilo.conf helpeed :) |
| 08:16.14 | Jeeves_Moss | all: load balacing and high avability networks? any one? |
| 08:16.32 | etrask | i'm having a problem forwarding X11 over SSH :( |
| 08:16.33 | karsten | !tell Jeeves_Moss about smart questions |
| 08:16.36 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Just ask. |
| 08:17.03 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: how about just answering my question like a normal person? |
| 08:17.08 | jerware | estrask: you reverse port forwarding ? |
| 08:17.21 | servus | etrask: Not a very well-formed question, but make sure your sshd_config on the server has x11 forwarding enabled. |
| 08:17.29 | karsten | etrask: Make sure 1). you've got X running locally 2) you've got your *LOCAL* $DISPLAY set, 3) remote forwards X11, 4) you're requesting a forward. Run 'ssh -vX user@local xlogo' and note any errors. |
| 08:17.33 | etrask | hah, it does, and i 'm sorry for the vauge question |
| 08:17.48 | etrask | i'm on WinXP SP2 here, running MicroImages X server 4.2 |
| 08:17.55 | etrask | and trying to foward X11 over PuTTY |
| 08:18.01 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: How about asking an answerable question and not antagonizing the regulars? |
| 08:18.03 | etrask | [and it's enabled in sshd_config on the other box] |
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| 08:18.21 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: ok, what makes more sense if you have 2 sets of systems clustered together (NIC1 is on cluster one, and NIC2 is on cluster 2), to do load balancing? I'm looking to make sure that the servers are sharing the load even is a switch dies, etc. |
| 08:18.22 | jvives | hey all, any tips on "installing java SDK" besides using eclipse and installing free-java-whatever??? |
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| 08:18.27 | karsten | etrask: Hrm. Does putty support verbose logging? |
| 08:18.28 | leminhteo | hi all |
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| 08:18.35 | etrask | yeah, it does |
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| 08:18.48 | leminhteo | i want to setup clustering in debian |
| 08:18.58 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Depends on what you're serving, how stateful the app is, what equipment you've got, etc. |
| 08:19.00 | Jeeves_Moss | leminhteo: you and me both bud. |
| 08:19.14 | etrask | karsten: MI-X doesn't have much in the way of help, so i have just been assuming it set the $DISPLAY itself, on :0 |
| 08:19.18 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: The 90% cheap answer is round-robin DNS. |
| 08:19.26 | jerware | fuck it. im not going to waste anymore time with this ndiswrapper crap. |
| 08:19.31 | jerware | good nite |
| 08:19.34 | karsten | etrask: Fortunatley, MI-X is mostly irrelevant. It's putty and your sshd you're concerned with. |
| 08:19.43 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: its not that statefull (only the current page, the user info is cookie baised). |
| 08:19.43 | etrask | karsten: oh, okay |
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| 08:20.14 | karsten | etrask: Incidentaly, MI-X sucks rocks through a straw. I'd suggest cygwin or if you want just X, XMing (based on cygwin but w/o the full Cygwin install). |
| 08:20.19 | weder | hello |
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| 08:20.22 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: I'm not a big fan of round robin. I'm thinking something a little more inteligent that dosen't reguire a "head" like Squid does. |
| 08:20.41 | etrask | karsten: thank you SO much, the bulky install is basically the only reason i've been avoiding Cygwin :P |
| 08:20.41 | bintut | any comments installing debian sarge i386 on an amd64 box? |
| 08:20.49 | weder | how can i do for install debian in disc sata? |
| 08:20.53 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Cheap answer: round-robin and let the DNS server sort it out. Other than that I'm out of my depth. |
| 08:20.54 | rann | yesterday and the day before two big security updates came out for the 2.4 series kernels in debian stable; since some of the issues fixed are also known to exist in up to 2.6.10, can we expect an update for the 2.6 series in stable too? |
| 08:20.55 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Generally that's layer-3/4 stuff, smart switch. |
| 08:20.55 | etrask | bintut: it worked fine for me |
| 08:20.59 | leminhteo | hi all |
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| 08:21.02 | etrask | bintut: smooth sailing all the way |
| 08:21.05 | stoned | hi |
| 08:21.06 | SonnyBurnett | Hi, I'm downloading a torrent tfile using azureu, it is in 99,9 percent a long time ago... This is how it works? they left you some time sharing the file? when does it end? |
| 08:21.14 | Jeeves_Moss | karsten: ok, but I'm still a VERY poor student. |
| 08:21.19 | karsten | etrask: NP. You can even run XMing off a CD, FWIW, portable solution ;-) |
| 08:21.20 | bintut | etrask: this is actually on my laptop |
| 08:21.37 | leminhteo | who do know about clustering |
| 08:21.42 | bintut | etrask: my laptop is hp compaq nx6125 using amd turion64 processor |
| 08:21.42 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: a fucking *picky* poor student ;-) |
| 08:21.52 | leminhteo | i want to build clustering in debian |
| 08:21.55 | leminhteo | who can help me |
| 08:21.59 | nkuttler | SonnyBurnett: there are many possible reasons for that |
| 08:22.00 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: I'd suggest round-robin, again. Law of large numbers is your win. |
| 08:22.00 | etrask | bintut: ah, well, i installed mine on an Alienware computer, AMD Athlon 64 3500+ |
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| 08:22.15 | etrask | bintut: debian ended up not liking my network card but everything else ran just fine |
| 08:22.33 | SonnyBurnett | nkuttler, like which ones? |
| 08:22.59 | bintut | etrask: actually, i've tried different 64bit distros and i'm not comfortable with them.. |
| 08:23.10 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: yep! and I got almost all of the hardware for free. The way I was thinking is having 2 differen't "clusters" working on the servers (differen't NICs) so if a switch goes dead or a box goes dead, the system still runs. But the state stuff would be steered to the corect cluster @ the first level, then the corect box on the second cluser level. |
| 08:23.12 | etrask | bintut: if you have specific installation problems, i'm afraid you'd have to ask someone else, i am a total linux newb... I'm just saying, Debian installed fine on the Athlon box |
| 08:23.18 | bintut | etrask: i'm thinking of sacrificing my 64bit machine to a 32bit OS.. |
| 08:23.21 | etrask | bintut: is that so? i tried Ubuntu 64-bit before, i liked it |
| 08:23.41 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: normally when nothing is wrong you get 100% completion and it slips into the bottom half of the window... seed mode |
| 08:23.46 | bintut | etrask: i don't like ubuntu.. it's bloated.. it installs packages that i don't need |
| 08:24.05 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: but there are on occasion some technical problems which can prevent things from working out right |
| 08:24.16 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: I messed with something like that using source-routed networking on a dual-pipe configuration, with full redundancy at all stages (pipe, switch, server), but was just the muscle and grease-monkey. |
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| 08:24.24 | etrask | bintut: well, yes, I do prefer Debian over Ubuntu, but if i couldn't have Debian Ubuntu would be my next choice =D |
| 08:24.30 | Jeeves_Moss | bintut: I LOVE Ubuntu. I've got it as the second OS on this box. I can't rember what large corp is working on shipping it as an OS option. I think it was on slashdot a few weeks ago. |
| 08:24.35 | weder | how can i do for install debian in disc sata? |
| 08:24.45 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Odds are pretty good that that's overkill though for what you're doing. GIYF. |
| 08:24.45 | hendry | i want to dig all the records for a partic domain. dig dabase.com doesn't do it. what should i be using? |
| 08:24.50 | leminhteo | Jeeves_Moss i want to setup two server, one is primary and one is secondary |
| 08:24.56 | dn4 | what is a good way to track down ip address and find ou the location of the address? |
| 08:24.59 | SonnyBurnett | mhall, It says "downloading" but I'm In the downloading bar it says "0kb" |
| 08:25.16 | karsten | hendry: You have to be authorized for that domain, if you're looking for a full host transfer. |
| 08:25.19 | SonnyBurnett | mhall, The dowload speed is at 0kb |
| 08:25.24 | karsten | hendry: Most DNS servers won't just give that to you. |
| 08:25.29 | leminhteo | Jeeves_Moss when the primary is down, the secondary is up and become primary |
| 08:25.39 | etrask | dn4: http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm can give you the geographical location of an IP, but i'm not sure what you mean by "track down ip addresses"\ |
| 08:25.43 | stoned | I have started an NBD server on one machine, and shared a block device on a certain port. I then went to the client machine, and did nbd-client hostname port /dev/nbd0 . The block device that is being shared is a ReiserFS drive. On the client machine, I tried mount -t reiserfs /dev/nbd0 /mnt/nbd, but it says wrong FS type. What FS type should I specify. Also, in the documentaion, the next step after nbd-client host port /dev/nbd0 was to mke2fs/d |
| 08:25.43 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: yes, the download speed will be at 0 when you have got nobody online with the file pieces you need |
| 08:25.45 | karsten | hendry: Otherwise, the syntax is simply a DNS transfer request. |
| 08:25.59 | loxley_ | hendry: most dns servers wont allow AXFR requests |
| 08:26.01 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: well, then I think you've got what I'm trying to do. Basicly the only point of failure I want is the router and the ISP connection (soon to be outdone by something else for a connection), and so I can scale more boxes into it if I have to. I'm just concerned about the cluster "layers" making sure the corect session state gets to the corect NIC. |
| 08:26.05 | karsten | hendry: Your next bet is to request the zonefile from the zone admin. |
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| 08:26.12 | bintut | oh well.. |
| 08:26.16 | stoned | anykind of help would be nice |
| 08:26.22 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: for some reason there is some glitch preventing you from getting the last torrent piece |
| 08:26.28 | bintut | i tried to love ubuntu but since i'm a minimalist, i don't like it.. |
| 08:26.49 | Jeeves_Moss | bintut: you can strip it if you want to. |
| 08:26.50 | loxley_ | hendry: that would provide ppl with a shitload of info of your net |
| 08:26.59 | etrask | bintut: Ubuntu uses synaptic, i believe, so you could always uninstall all the stuff you don't use |
| 08:27.19 | etrask | bintut: i did that for the debian server i have, since it doesn't even have a monitor and basically just crunches Rosetta@home all day, it's got hardly anything on it |
| 08:27.20 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Depending on your uptime requirements, keepalives and IP aliasing might be sufficient for you. Keep watchdogs on each of two systems, have one grab the other's IP if there's no response within a critical interval. |
| 08:27.27 | mhall | etrask: s/, i believe,/,/g |
| 08:27.46 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: How much googling have you done? |
| 08:27.54 | etrask | mhall: er... come again? :P |
| 08:27.54 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: i can't.. i tried to apt-get gnome-volume-manager and it installs everything about ubuntu-desktop |
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| 08:28.07 | mhall | etrask: it does. no i believe needed. |
| 08:28.25 | etrask | mhall: ah... sorry, like i said, total linux newb :P |
| 08:28.28 | csaba198 | Hi! If a program writes to stderr, how can i redirect it to /dev/null ?? |
| 08:28.32 | mhall | etrask: tis ok :) |
| 08:28.36 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: ok, so your thinking that a 2 layer cluster would be overkill? I'm just doing it to more or less to see if I can. Its more to show off that I've got a serious uptime cluster in my basement. It'll be used as a web server eventualy. |
| 08:28.37 | mhall | csaba198: 2> /dev/null |
| 08:28.40 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: LVS may be what you want to look at. |
| 08:28.50 | mhall | csaba198: be cautious when doing that esp. in a script. |
| 08:28.56 | mhall | csaba198: consider checking $? if you can |
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| 08:29.01 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: ok, well, I know I LOVE it, its simple, and the ONLY distro that likes this laptop. |
| 08:29.02 | etrask | csaba198: if you have the normal out directed to /dev/null already you could slap 2>&1 on there |
| 08:29.10 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: LVS? |
| 08:29.10 | mhall | csaba198: or grepping out shit you don't want |
| 08:29.30 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Linux Virtual Server |
| 08:29.32 | karsten | !lvs |
| 08:29.32 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lvs is Linux Virtual Server is a highly scalable and highly available server built on a cluster of real servers, or http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/ |
| 08:29.36 | SonnyBurnett | mhall, yeah youre right I have 0 seeds :( |
| 08:29.52 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: shit happens. keep waiting for a week or two then give up |
| 08:29.54 | SonnyBurnett | mhall, noooooooo theres many seeds |
| 08:29.56 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: what kind of file is it |
| 08:30.19 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: intresting idea. The systems are 2 x 2Ghz with 512Mb RAM. I was thinking that the 2 NIC cards would be the best course of action. Each card is on a differen't switch, etc. |
| 08:30.23 | csaba198 | mhall: well, 2> /dev/null doesn't work. I' m trying this way: scanimage 2> /dev/null . |
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| 08:30.34 | SonnyBurnett | mhall, an ISO |
| 08:30.37 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: maybe a firewall issue prevents you connecting to them |
| 08:30.50 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: try making sure upnp or port forward is set up for you if you can |
| 08:31.01 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: see if you can rsync the last piece |
| 08:31.21 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: shit if it was an avi you could mostly ignore it except a couple glitchy seconds somewhere in the file |
| 08:31.25 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: good to hear that.. |
| 08:31.37 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Something like that. |
| 08:31.40 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: all the data would be on a NAS, so we shoulden't have problems. |
| 08:31.53 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: also look where the problem happens |
| 08:31.54 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Ah: single point of failure ;-) |
| 08:32.02 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: it might be, there is some file with the ISO you chose not to DL |
| 08:32.03 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: its a Toshiba Sat. P20. 17" wide scereen |
| 08:32.11 | bintut | basically, i need to have plugin support on my firefox for the following: java, flash and pdf.. |
| 08:32.13 | yang | how can i print from a linux machine if the printer is connected on a windows machine? |
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| 08:32.27 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: my toy is hp compaq nx6125 |
| 08:32.28 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: in which case due to what i consider an azureus UI bug, it will say you are never 100% done |
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| 08:32.47 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: because the % you chose not to DL is not subtracted when considering how much of the DL you have completed |
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| 08:33.27 | mhall | SonnyBurnett: so if i deselect 30% of the file size of a torrent by not downloading some of the files, then i never get more than 70% on the meter |
| 08:33.33 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: a RAID 10 Tb NAS. Running on the gigabit uplink (one per switch connected single switch to a single NAS), and the 3-Com switches have a special 15 pin 3-com uplink between the switches. |
| 08:33.38 | mhall | anyways time for bed i'm sleepy |
| 08:33.38 | onetinsoldier | csaba198: i'm very rusty... but try scanimage 2>/dev/null ...make any difference? |
| 08:33.41 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: nice box. |
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| 08:35.19 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: that way, the NASs can rsync to each other accross the high speed link. And if the switch goes dark, then the other cluster will pick up the slack. |
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| 08:35.33 | SonnyBurnett | mhall, I'll wait :( |
| 08:35.50 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Ah. *Two* NASs. Better. |
| 08:35.59 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Look at unison as well, FYI. |
| 08:36.44 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: Thanks. The main point of failure is the Database server (once I can find another Proliant DL-380, I'll fix that) |
| 08:36.47 | csaba198 | onetinsoldier , mhall: no, it doesn' t, but |
| 08:37.09 | csaba198 | i bet it' s not from my program. Is it posibble, that the kernel writes onto my screen? |
| 08:37.26 | onetinsoldier | yes... certainly possible |
| 08:37.42 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: but i can't fully utilize it.. and that's why i'm confused on what distro shall i use.. and now i'm thinking to install debian sarge for i386 even though i should have to sacrifice my 64bit box.. |
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| 08:37.48 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: Any ideas? |
| 08:37.50 | sjamaan | Hai |
| 08:38.01 | sjamaan | How can I list the files in an installed pkg with dpkg? |
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| 08:38.19 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: well, I woulden't kill a 64 bit box running a 32-bit os. |
| 08:38.36 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Not within my area of competence. |
| 08:38.47 | karsten | sjamaan: dpkg -L <packagename> |
| 08:38.53 | karsten | sjamaan: man dpkg |
| 08:39.06 | sjamaan | karsten: Couldn't find in the manpage |
| 08:39.07 | etrask | karsten: big thanks again, xming rocks |
| 08:39.09 | sjamaan | Must've missed it :) |
| 08:39.09 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: layman's term please? |
| 08:39.10 | onetinsoldier | csaba198: my firewall is printing crap to the screen all the time right now... in the console only. not in x-windows, because i compiled a couple of firewall drivers into the kernel and not as modules. :-/ |
| 08:39.11 | dn4 | when I look up 69.64.49.213 I get that it is located in California, but the person assures me it is located in St. Louis Any ideas why this is happening? |
| 08:39.14 | sjamaan | thanks |
| 08:39.14 | yang | how can i print from a linux machine if the printer is connected on a windows machine? how do i share that network? |
| 08:39.18 | karsten | etrask: ;-) |
| 08:39.18 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: well, as I said, all the boxes are all dubbled up like that. Also, if I add other boxes to take up slack, then they'll be tied to each cluster. |
| 08:39.41 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: would you buy a Porche to go get lumber? |
| 08:39.53 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Yeah. Postgresql supports clustering, apparently, there's a number of presentations planned at the upcoming PG conf. Really don't know anything about it other than that. |
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| 08:40.26 | karsten | dn4: Look up how? |
| 08:40.30 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: definitely, nope.. |
| 08:40.39 | karsten | dn4: mtr suggests it's in St. Louis. |
| 08:40.50 | karsten | dn4: ... as does WHOIS registry, though that's iffy. |
| 08:40.55 | Jeeves_Moss | Karsten: I'm trying to find a cluster software thats kinda simple to set up, but dosen't require a reverse proxy box, but will accept dynamicly adding and subtracting boxes. |
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| 08:41.17 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: why don't you like the Ubuntu distro? |
| 08:41.24 | dn4 | karsten, mtr? |
| 08:41.47 | karsten | dn4: /msg dpkg search |
| 08:42.06 | karsten | dn4: it's also in AS30083, also in St. Louis. Why you say California? |
| 08:42.07 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: bloated |
| 08:42.24 | csaba198 | onetinsoldier: so if i compile it into the kernel (not as modules), it will not print onto the console? |
| 08:42.26 | karsten | bintut: What're you using it for? |
| 08:42.38 | dn4 | http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation <-- said cali |
| 08:42.44 | bintut | karsten: my personal desktop |
| 08:42.47 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: well, I don't know what to say about that. As I said, I like it. I've hacked a LOT of crap out of it to make it run on this box. |
| 08:42.49 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Ubuntu's aimed at GNOME desktop and fills that niche well. |
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| 08:43.02 | karsten | bintut: What's your desktop? |
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| 08:43.09 | Mitsui_Sam | sep, Hi man! |
| 08:43.16 | weder | how can i do for install debian in disc sata? |
| 08:43.19 | bintut | karsten: you mean, DE? if yes, i use gnome. |
| 08:43.36 | Mitsui_Sam | sep, it's working now! thanks a lot, as I could see some howtos in portuguese are incomplete |
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| 08:43.41 | apokryphos | what are the best options for bulk audio converting? (m4a -> ogg) |
| 08:44.01 | karsten | !tell weder about sata |
| 08:44.11 | dn4 | karsten, mtr? |
| 08:44.22 | karsten | bintut: I'd think Ubuntu's dealing with GNOME's shit packaging would be a bonus. |
| 08:44.30 | karsten | dn4: apt-cache show <packagename> |
| 08:44.32 | onetinsoldier | csaba198: well, most things you compile into the kernel don't do that. but compiling <whatever it is> as a module instead of directly into the kernel might stop the output from going directly to the console. you can always try it. |
| 08:44.32 | hendry | how do change the default root password to something in a mysql-server install |
| 08:44.36 | karsten | dn4: Or jfgi |
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| 08:44.48 | nkuttler | apokryphos: rerip the cds |
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| 08:44.53 | karsten | hendry: OS root or mysql root? |
| 08:44.54 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: check out the #ubuntu channel. |
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| 08:45.05 | Mitsui_Sam | sep, is there any way to have certain that only web trafic is passing by the second interface?? |
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| 08:45.17 | apokryphos | nkuttler: I don't have the CDs |
| 08:45.19 | bintut | karsten: i don't like it because it's bloated.. |
| 08:45.27 | karsten | bintut: So I've gathered. |
| 08:45.36 | bintut | karsten: i tried to like it but i can't fool myself |
| 08:45.51 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: i used to be there.. |
| 08:45.53 | nkuttler | apokryphos: don't reencode from one lossy format to another... |
| 08:46.01 | karsten | bintut: I don't care for it 'coz of GNOME, but I find kubuntu reasonable. |
| 08:46.16 | dingus9 | hey I any one ever have a problem getting gdm to boot properly if ntpdate fails to update the system time on boot? |
| 08:46.22 | Jeeves_Moss | Bintut: well, its an idea. Have you tried intsalling it yet? |
| 08:46.46 | bintut | guys, i need your opinion.. if you're having a 64bit laptop, would you install debian sarge i386 or not? |
| 08:47.18 | Jeeves_Moss | bintut: no. Kills the 64-bit abilities |
| 08:47.19 | apokryphos | nkuttler: I'd really rather not have m4as on here |
| 08:47.31 | karsten | bintut: No. 64bit install. |
| 08:47.36 | bintut | Jeeves_Moss: yeah, i installed it on this laptop but really don't like it.. |
| 08:47.39 | nkuttler | apokryphos: why? |
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| 08:48.01 | dingus9 | bintut: I would yes then go either grab the 64bit kernel from the repositories or make my own |
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| 08:48.32 | dingus9 | bintut: whats your linux savyness? |
| 08:48.35 | apokryphos | nkuttler: I want to force people on this network to use ogg :P, but more: I have problems with m4as |
| 08:48.35 | nkuttler | dingus9: iirc ntp doesn't timeout or i was too impatient |
| 08:49.06 | Blackhold | hello, do you know if the etch net install works? and were could I donwload? |
| 08:49.19 | karsten | !tell Blackhold about netinst |
| 08:49.33 | hendry | karsten: figured it out, thanks |
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| 08:49.37 | Jeeves_Moss | all: ok guys, I'm outta here. I've got a lady waiting for me in bed. She sounds a little pissed that I'm still sitting here. |
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| 08:50.05 | apokryphos | Jeeves_Moss: I know your exact feeling 8) |
| 08:50.06 | karsten | Jeeves_Moss: Do *not* attempt load-balancing that server. |
| 08:50.09 | onetinsoldier | Blackhold: i used netinst to install etch on my machine here |
| 08:50.14 | Blackhold | but, it works? |
| 08:50.28 | Blackhold | 'cause months before I tryied to use a etch |
| 08:50.33 | dingus9 | nkuttler: so if you skip the ntpdate ie(ctrl c) it does cause gdm to not init correctly for you? I use wireless and sometimes I don't have a proper gateway to the net but have an ip so ntpdate fails on my |
| 08:50.34 | bintut | honestly, i installed some of the available 64bit distros like ubuntu, suse 10 and fedora core 5 but all of them have problems.. not all of the packages i use are available.. like the java and flash plugins for firefox.. and other tools.. |
| 08:50.38 | Blackhold | netinstall and had some problems |
| 08:50.55 | onetinsoldier | Blackhold: there is a gotcha when installing. but yes.. it works |
| 08:50.55 | bintut | dingus9: what do you mean by your last question? |
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| 08:51.29 | onetinsoldier | Blackhold: it does work! i am running etch from netinstall... but, let me say something more |
| 08:51.30 | Blackhold | was a problem with the repos and singning them |
| 08:51.43 | karsten | Blackhold: Install something. If netinst doesn't work, you've got numerous other options. You can install etch directly or update from sarge, relatively trivially. |
| 08:51.50 | karsten | Blackhold: /topic |
| 08:52.04 | nkuttler | dingus9: it never went past ntpdate. |
| 08:52.08 | Blackhold | uh... but I want to install directly a etch net install nor a sarge net install |
| 08:52.59 | onetinsoldier | Blackhold: when i first installed by default 'desktop' and 'system'(something.. can't remember) had and asterix on them by default... i left them checked. |
| 08:53.00 | dingus9 | bintut: I was just wanting to know if you woul feel comfortable updating you kernel. I personally really like my debian repositories and the stock install sets most of that up for me. I actually usually dump into tty and apt-get x11 from just to save time updating later |
| 08:53.01 | karsten | Blackhold: What you want and what works may be two different things. |
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| 08:53.24 | karsten | Blackhold: I could give a shit what you *want*. I *will* let you know you've got numerous options open to you. |
| 08:53.31 | onetinsoldier | Blackhold: that was a no go! it would quit downloading after a bit and just hang there... so. i went around and did it over.... |
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| 08:53.37 | dingus9 | bintut: some of the guys in my lug think im crazzy though lol |
| 08:54.11 | Morten | is it possible to set up some sort of irc relay on a debian server, allowing me to stay connected 24/7 and simply log onto this "relay" from anywhere? |
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| 08:54.20 | onetinsoldier | Blackhold: and just left the 'base' installation.. nothing else.. rebooted, and then i've used apt-get to install whatever else i've wanted |
| 08:54.25 | bintut | dingus9: what's your lug? |
| 08:54.31 | dingus9 | nkuttler: yah I think I had to hit ctrl c to get past ntpdate |
| 08:54.34 | Morten | i know i can SSH to an irssi client on a remote server, but that's not quite what i'm looking for. |
| 08:54.36 | karsten | Morten: ssh + screen. |
| 08:54.38 | Rothgar | Morten: Research BNC's |
| 08:54.47 | karsten | Morten: Why not? |
| 08:54.51 | dingus9 | bintut: UVOG - umpqua valley opensource group |
| 08:55.03 | dingus9 | bintut: in oregon usa |
| 08:55.06 | bintut | dingus9: URL? |
| 08:55.25 | Morten | karsten - i tried it, and i ended up never using it. |
| 08:55.29 | weder | how can i do for install debian in disc sata? |
| 08:55.30 | dingus9 | bintut: uvog.homelinux.net irc #uvog |
| 08:55.42 | Morten | so i'd rather have some way to still use xchat |
| 08:55.48 | Morten | Rothgar - thanks. looking into it. |
| 08:56.02 | dingus9 | weder: are you on a really new sata |
| 08:56.20 | onetinsoldier | well, i was trying to help Balckhold, but i think karsten scared here off |
| 08:56.23 | onetinsoldier | *her |
| 08:56.30 | karsten | Morten: Well, then, that sucks. |
| 08:56.39 | karsten | !tell weder about sata |
| 08:57.28 | karsten | !tell weder about es |
| 08:57.52 | karsten | onetinsoldier: :-/ |
| 08:57.58 | SubStack | menu is an evil little package |
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| 08:58.17 | dingus9 | weder: my friend just bought a dell laptop with sata we had to go with ubuntu breezy. then we compiled him a multi cpu kernle for his core duo and change his repositories. I think there may be a problem with drivers for some sata controllers on the debian install |
| 08:58.30 | SubStack | and so is acpi, disabling my irq 9 like it owns the place |
| 08:58.49 | Daveman | SubStack \o/ |
| 08:59.05 | SubStack | Daveman :D |
| 08:59.44 | Daveman | :D |
| 09:00.09 | karsten | onetinsoldier: I'm a little tired of people who create their own problems / stand in the way of their own solutions. |
| 09:00.46 | dingus9 | weder: in short I we tried to do a sata install but the debian install disks we tried didn't have the correct sata drivers on them |
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| 09:00.54 | SubStack | write one |
| 09:00.57 | SubStack | from within grub |
| 09:00.58 | SubStack | go go go |
| 09:00.58 | karsten | dingus9: weder: I'll plug chroot installs as an option. |
| 09:01.07 | karsten | !tell weder about chroot install |
| 09:01.23 | karsten | weder: If you can boot knoppix, you can install Debian from it. |
| 09:02.09 | davis | hello |
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| 09:02.53 | onetinsoldier | karsten: i think you might just be a little 'tired'.. hehe. go back and read your primal volatile reaction to Blackhold. i really do think it was pretty harsh. sorry to say that but it my opinion, which i know doesn't count for crap. |
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| 09:03.19 | davis | i am trying to get debconf to reconfigure my sshd settings so that I can use SSH1 protocol. dpkg-reconfigure -plow openssh-server does not work. Any idea ow to do it? |
| 09:04.04 | xyster | Hey guys, i am runing debian 3.1 I need to kno how i can set-up tunneling on my box, can sum1 link me to a site or something that has clear concise instructions? |
| 09:04.12 | SubStack | dpkg-reconfigure ssh |
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| 09:04.43 | davis | SubStack: i tried that first. on sid, ssh is a transitional package and I dont even have it installed. |
| 09:04.43 | onetinsoldier | SubStack! lol.. he's saying he's tried that |
| 09:04.49 | SubStack | evil |
| 09:04.50 | dingus9 | SubStack: I just did that and nothing happend for me |
| 09:05.05 | dingus9 | i jsut wanted to se what would happen |
| 09:05.10 | davis | but a appreciate the help though. |
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| 09:05.17 | karsten | onetinsoldier: I'll grant I tend toward short answers. And I'm tired (should be asleep). OTOH, people who create their own problems are, just possibly, better off as somebody else's problem. |
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| 09:05.27 | SlayerXP | good morning #deviants. |
| 09:05.34 | karsten | davis: man ssh sshd |
| 09:05.38 | xyster | Anyone know how to do what i asked? |
| 09:05.46 | dingus9 | karsten: rarrr |
| 09:05.59 | davis | i did a apt-get remove --purge and a reinstall but all that did is regenerate the SSH2 host key. |
| 09:06.03 | karsten | davis: ... and mind you're opening yourself up to several known security vulnerabilities. I'd strongly suggest you stick to proto 2. |
| 09:06.07 | karsten | dingus9: ?? |
| 09:06.19 | karsten | davis: openssh FYI. |
| 09:06.47 | SubStack | vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 09:07.06 | dingus9 | karsten: lol jk |
| 09:07.20 | SubStack | change Protocol 2 to Protocol 2,1 |
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| 09:07.30 | davis | karsten: i agree, but I am trying to get eclipse working with CVS via ssh. |
| 09:07.38 | vars_ | hey how do i set up a static ip address with debein |
| 09:07.45 | davis | for now, getting SSH1 working is easier. |
| 09:07.45 | vars_ | with cli |
| 09:07.53 | karsten | davis: eclipse does proto1? |
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| 09:08.15 | karsten | davis: You'll need to generate an SSH1 key and enable proto SSH1 for your sshd. |
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| 09:08.29 | karsten | vars_: man interfaces |
| 09:08.36 | davis | its broken for both proto1 and 2, you have to apply fixed for both. Previously I at least got it working for SSH1 on a diff computer. |
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| 09:08.45 | dingus9 | vars_: ifconfig inet 122.123.123.1 |
| 09:08.59 | dingus9 | vars_: inet is the key |
| 09:09.02 | xyster | Hey guys, i am runing debian 3.1 I need to kno how i can set-up tunneling on my box, can sum1 link me to a site or something that has clear concise instructions? |
| 09:09.24 | karsten | vars_: Technically: ifconfig <interface> <ip> netmask <mask> up |
| 09:09.47 | karsten | vars_: ... and you're likely going to want to add a route or default GW for the system. |
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| 09:09.52 | dingus9 | yah what karsten said |
| 09:10.09 | karsten | !tell xyster about nat |
| 09:10.27 | liable | how do i send SIGUSR1 to a program? |
| 09:10.32 | onetinsoldier | # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) |
| 09:10.33 | onetinsoldier | # The loopback interface |
| 09:10.33 | onetinsoldier | auto lo |
| 09:10.33 | onetinsoldier | iface lo inet loopback |
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| 09:10.34 | tarzeau | liable: using kill |
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| 09:10.36 | karsten | vars_: If you're going to use that IP routinely, configure it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:10.36 | dingus9 | karsten: does he want to do iptables |
| 09:10.41 | karsten | liable: kill -1 <PID> |
| 09:10.41 | liable | tarzeau: thanks |
| 09:10.49 | karsten | liable: ... and technically a process, not a program. |
| 09:10.51 | xyster | karsten lol, i got some crazy message lemme read it |
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| 09:10.58 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 09:11.00 | liable | karsten: heh, ok |
| 09:11.01 | vars_ | i want to run a website form my box |
| 09:11.02 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 09:11.03 | dpkg | <Zap-W> what is DD <greycat> ~DD <dpkg> it has been said that dd is a Debian Developer <Zap-W> KK <Zap-W> why the abriviation <lazarus> Zap-W: why any abbreviation? to shorten! <Zap-W> lazarus: it alienates ppl <greycat> Zap-W: you can't complain about abbreviations AND THEN USE THEM in the same sentence. <Zap-W> suck bananas <asg> ~fruitsmite Zap-W * dpkg smites Zap-W with a dozen pineapples |
| 09:11.10 | dingus9 | vars_: are running gdm? |
| 09:11.14 | vars_ | no |
| 09:11.15 | xyster | What does that all mean? |
| 09:11.25 | vars_ | fluxbox |
| 09:12.10 | dingus9 | vars_: there may also be a gui available if you change your ip frequently enough to need such a thing. |
| 09:12.12 | karsten | xyster: Read: /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1 |
| 09:12.20 | xyster | Its for a linux box i have karsten its not at my house. I cant use that command |
| 09:12.31 | karsten | dingus9: Not for straightforward NAT. |
| 09:12.51 | xyster | No such file or directory |
| 09:12.53 | karsten | xyster: English? |
| 09:13.01 | vars_ | dingus9, what is it |
| 09:13.11 | xyster | It's a linux box on the net, It's not here, the command you sent doesnt work. |
| 09:13.15 | vars_ | ohh you said ther may be |
| 09:13.20 | xyster | i get this error: No such file or directory |
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| 09:13.24 | Crissi | hi |
| 09:13.38 | jimmiehansson | xyster: then setup a vpn and get all problems solved |
| 09:13.51 | vars_ | is there a nice simple easy way to serve up a web page? |
| 09:13.57 | xyster | My router supports VPN, how do i set it up to connect through the box? |
| 09:14.01 | michal_ | i wish these servers didn't require registration to access most of the irc channels :/ |
| 09:14.07 | jimmiehansson | xyster: look into openvpn |
| 09:14.10 | Crissi | i still have to enter a pasword if i try to su from root to normal user.. how i can set it that i dont need to enter a password if i'm root? |
| 09:14.11 | jimmiehansson | vars_: apache? |
| 09:14.13 | assclown | do any of the debian install CD's contain atheros (ie. MaDwifi) drivers by default ? |
| 09:14.41 | liable | hrm, kill -1 doesnt do it. |
| 09:14.45 | vars_ | i have appache running but i can't get out of my network |
| 09:14.50 | xyster | So if i tunnel it it will allow me to use the box's bw rite? |
| 09:14.53 | karsten | xyster: Um. Google for that at LTSP. |
| 09:14.57 | karsten | !tell xyster about ltsp. |
| 09:15.07 | jimmiehansson | liable: try kill -9 |
| 09:15.14 | karsten | liable: man kill |
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| 09:15.25 | liable | i am trying to get a bluetooth headset to ring, and it says send SIGUSR1 |
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| 09:15.38 | karsten | liable: 1 5 7 9 in order are what I typically do. System shutdown is 5 & 9 with a 5 second interval. |
| 09:15.50 | xyster | Thnx guys. reading up on the stuff you sent. |
| 09:15.53 | karsten | liable: Sorry. USR1 != 1. |
| 09:16.14 | karsten | liable: 'kill -l' lists all signals. Or you can 'kill -USR1 <PID>' |
| 09:16.28 | vars_ | i am getting siocsifaddr no such device |
| 09:16.30 | liable | karsten: thanks, will try that |
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| 09:16.43 | karsten | vars_: Missing a module. Network? |
| 09:16.55 | brownie17 | does anyone have any idea how i can get my canoscan lide 30 scanner to work in debian? |
| 09:16.56 | karsten | vars_: ... erm Configuring a network interface? |
| 09:17.14 | vars_ | maybe i can access the www |
| 09:17.16 | vars_ | yeah |
| 09:17.26 | vars_ | i want to serve a web page |
| 09:17.34 | vars_ | that is what i want to do |
| 09:17.36 | karsten | vars_: siocsifaddr == you haven't loaded the right kernel module yet. |
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| 09:18.00 | vars_ | do you know what the right module is/ |
| 09:18.08 | karsten | vars_: What's your NIC card? 'lspci | grep Ether' |
| 09:18.17 | karsten | vars_: bribery. |
| 09:19.03 | vars_ | it is a pcimia card |
| 09:19.07 | vars_ | in a laptop |
| 09:19.16 | blondie | vars_: that's not the answer |
| 09:19.16 | karsten | !tell vars_ about pcmcia |
| 09:19.23 | karsten | vars_: wifi, wired, or what? |
| 09:19.29 | vars_ | wired |
| 09:19.35 | karsten | vars_: OK. What's the chipset? |
| 09:20.02 | vars_ | linksys |
| 09:20.10 | karsten | vars_: That's not a chipset. |
| 09:20.17 | karsten | vars_: ... that's a vendor. |
| 09:20.24 | karsten | vars_: ... which is actually just a Cisco brand. |
| 09:21.13 | vars_ | ok so when we figure out what the chip set is then what? |
| 09:21.17 | dingus9 | vars_: look on the bottom of the card to get the moddle info |
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| 09:21.32 | vars_ | it just sais pcm100 |
| 09:21.32 | karsten | vars_: 'lspci' or 'cardctl info' may give you something. |
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| 09:21.52 | brownie17 | does anyone have any idea how i can get a scanner to work in debian? or where i can see if it's connected? |
| 09:21.55 | dn4 | how do I turn off my automatic screen saver that starts after 10 minutes? |
| 09:22.09 | blondie | brownie17: type dmesg after plugging it in (assuming usb) |
| 09:22.18 | karsten | dn4: Are you running xscreensaver directly, or GNOME/KDE? |
| 09:22.21 | brownie17 | blondie, yes, t's usb |
| 09:22.28 | usn_work | good morning |
| 09:22.37 | blondie | well dmesg should say something if it detects it (which it should) |
| 09:22.43 | karsten | dn4: If the first, kill xscreensaver. If gnome/kde, both have screensaver configs, use control panel / config tool |
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| 09:23.19 | karsten | vars_: What's the Linksys model number? Google that. Usually + linux turns up what you need. |
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| 09:23.28 | sjamaan | One more dpkg question: How can I remove a package and all its dependencies? (and things that depend on it?) |
| 09:23.30 | karsten | vars_: Not foolproof, but generally useful. |
| 09:23.34 | blondie | assuming they haven't changed the chipset |
| 09:23.40 | dn4 | I did gnome-screensaver-preferences |
| 09:23.42 | dn4 | that worked |
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| 09:24.06 | karsten | sjamaan: Anything that depends on it will be removed regardless. 'purge' removes all a packages information, including config files, and, for databases, the data. |
| 09:24.15 | vars_ | is etherfast a chipset |
| 09:24.23 | karsten | vars_: Getting warmer. |
| 09:24.32 | sjamaan | karsten: And the other way around? |
| 09:24.44 | sjamaan | Is there a way to remove all packages that only that package depends on? |
| 09:24.55 | brownie17 | blondie, any more hints? i'm looking threough it but i don't see the word scanner anywhere |
| 09:24.57 | vars_ | HCL |
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| 09:25.12 | sjamaan | (like pkg_delete -R in pkgsrc) |
| 09:25.15 | vars_ | karsten, is that it |
| 09:25.24 | blondie | brownie17: it'll be at the bottom |
| 09:25.26 | karsten | sjamaan: if you use aptitude you're close to that. What package(s) do you have in mind? |
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| 09:25.31 | karsten | vars_: No. |
| 09:25.34 | blondie | brownie17: immediately after you plug it in |
| 09:25.36 | possie | running sar on a busy server is that a bad thing todo? i mean, will it even stress the server more? |
| 09:25.38 | sjamaan | karsten: apache2 |
| 09:25.51 | brownie17 | blondie, it's been plugged in for weeks |
| 09:25.53 | karsten | vars_: Have you run 'lspci' or 'cardctl info' yet? |
| 09:25.58 | vars_ | yeah |
| 09:26.04 | karsten | sjamaan: And what are you hoping to get rid of? |
| 09:26.17 | sjamaan | apache2-common etc |
| 09:26.17 | callee | is there a device in /proc returning current cpu load? |
| 09:26.22 | karsten | sjamaan: /msg dpkg aptitude and READ THE MAILING LIST POST. |
| 09:26.30 | karsten | callee: /proc/uptime |
| 09:26.36 | vars_ | rl5c478 |
| 09:26.39 | brownie17 | blondie, can i show it to you? |
| 09:26.43 | vars_ | rl |
| 09:26.47 | karsten | vars_: Probably realtek |
| 09:26.48 | sjamaan | ok, thanks karsten |
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| 09:27.18 | callee | karsten: that only shows how much cpu has been used since it has gone up and how long it has been up |
| 09:27.18 | vars_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.25 | vars_ | that is the module |
| 09:27.32 | vars_ | i need sleep |
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| 09:27.48 | karsten | vars_: Nope, that's your pcmcia driver. |
| 09:28.06 | karsten | vars_: rl5c478 may be the PCMCIA bridge itself. |
| 09:28.30 | karsten | vars_: You're going to have to get better at providing useful info. |
| 09:29.16 | blondie | brownie17: umm pastebin it |
| 09:30.00 | vars_ | ne2000 |
| 09:30.24 | karsten | vars_: Run the commands. Paste the full !@#$%^&*() output instead of guessing whta I want. |
| 09:30.30 | karsten | vars_: /msg dpkg paster |
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| 09:30.43 | karsten | vars_: ... do that and post the link. |
| 09:30.55 | karsten | vars_: 'lspci; cardctl info' |
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| 09:31.02 | karsten | vars_: ... and 'dmesg' for good measure. |
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| 09:32.33 | karsten | vars_: Assuming you don't have networking going, use a floppy disk or USB stick to transfer the data. |
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| 09:34.17 | brownie17 | someone has got to know how to get a usb scanner to work, i don't even know how to make the computer recognize it, or check that it has been recognised |
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| 09:35.11 | dingus9 | brownie17: I have a hp scanner working |
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| 09:35.45 | brownie17 | dingus9, how did you do it? |
| 09:36.00 | dingus9 | brownie17: what brand of printer? |
| 09:36.00 | vars_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:37.38 | unix_infidel | what font format does osd_cat use? |
| 09:37.44 | unix_infidel | where -f=FONT |
| 09:38.17 | brownie17 | dingus9, you mean scanner? canon, but maybe i can learn something form how you did yourts |
| 09:39.26 | dingus9 | brownie17: first I checked to see if it was connected in the usb tree "lsusb" |
| 09:39.54 | dingus9 | brownie17: sratch that |
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| 09:43.00 | brownie17 | dingus9, scratch that? okay. well what else? |
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| 09:44.23 | dingus9 | brownie17: is the kernel aware of it? |
| 09:46.36 | dingus9 | brownie17: if it is then you need to find a driver/software to run your scanner |
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| 09:48.14 | brownie17 | dingus9, i don't know if it is, newbie here. i heard of something called libusb that makes it easier |
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| 09:48.36 | dingus9 | brownie17: I installed the scanner software specificly for our hp all in one scanner printer, ok just a seck |
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| 09:49.34 | bintut | i need to question this again for those guys who just logged in on this channel: guys, i need your opinion.. if you're having a 64bit laptop, would you install debian sarge i386 or not? |
| 09:49.43 | bintut | s/question/ask |
| 09:50.05 | bintut | why or why not, if possible |
| 09:50.08 | dingus9 | brownie17: id try the xsane package for the scanner softwar |
| 09:50.35 | brownie17 | dingus9, sudo apt-get install xsane |
| 09:50.39 | dingus9 | brownie17: yup |
| 09:50.42 | brownie17 | dingus9, okay |
| 09:51.14 | dingus9 | brownie17: im running sid though so some things may be different! |
| 09:51.40 | brownie17 | dingus9, i'm sure we'll work it out |
| 09:51.59 | onetinsoldier | bintut: i'd answer but i have no experience with 64-bit. but my first thought is that i'd install etch/testing. but then again that's what i'm running now. lol |
| 09:52.24 | onetinsoldier | and then i probably try to compile my own 64-bit kernel if possible |
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| 09:53.08 | bintut | onetinsoldier: you mean here that i have to install a 32bit OS except for the kernel which should be on a 64bit? |
| 09:53.12 | bartlebee | can dpkg be used to check which package a file belongs to? |
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| 09:53.43 | onetinsoldier | bintut: well, as i said i have no experience with 64-bit |
| 09:53.52 | dingus9 | brownie17: do you use any other usb devices? im just trying to see if you have support for usb setup |
| 09:53.53 | brownie17 | dingus9, will xsane make the process simple? is it gui or console? |
| 09:54.08 | dingus9 | xsane should be gui |
| 09:54.10 | onetinsoldier | do they make a version that's 64-bit all the way around? |
| 09:54.14 | brownie17 | dingus9, i use a usb keyboard & mouse |
| 09:54.18 | dingus9 | ok cool |
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| 09:55.03 | bintut | dingus9: what's your opinion again? |
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| 09:56.17 | dingus9 | bintut: I would go for it. I have installed it on a 64 bit befor it worked beautifully, we compiled a kernel ourselves and tried the one in the repositories for his cpu |
| 09:56.35 | dingus9 | bintut: both worked |
| 09:56.40 | hurow | when i start konqueror in a shell, i have many warnings of such nature: kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/usr/share/applications/kde/ark.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2' |
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| 09:57.03 | bintut | dingus9: ok.. 32bit userland using a 64bit kernel.. |
| 09:57.07 | unix_infidel | hurow: that's normal. |
| 09:57.07 | bintut | dingus9: thank you.. |
| 09:57.17 | bintut | that would be fine with me.. |
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| 09:57.32 | hurow | unix_infidel: normal? no way to avoid it? |
| 09:57.52 | dingus9 | bintut: yah when most apps haven't been compiled for 64 bit yet but you can always do that as you go |
| 09:58.14 | unix_infidel | hurow: i'm sure you could point the output to some node like /dev/null or something, but its not really recommended. |
| 09:58.15 | bintut | dingus9: yeah.. |
| 09:58.33 | unix_infidel | why not start it from the wm and have it put the output to tty1? |
| 09:58.45 | unix_infidel | hurow: what window manager are you running? |
| 09:58.54 | hurow | kdm |
| 09:58.59 | unix_infidel | kde? |
| 09:59.11 | hurow | sorry, yeh kde. |
| 09:59.27 | unix_infidel | yea, konqueror > /dev/null will do it for ya. |
| 09:59.30 | dingus9 | brownie17: hows it comming? |
| 09:59.42 | brownie17 | dingus9, xsane isn't automatically picking it up. when i press scan the scanner does nothing and it gives me a black image! :( |
| 09:59.43 | michail | hurow, try this konqueror & |
| 10:00.19 | hurow | michail: that is just running it as a background task. |
| 10:00.21 | bintut | dingus9: can you give me your debian sarge repositories? |
| 10:00.21 | unix_infidel | but its not really that great b/c the output can give you hints as to what problems you might have. |
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| 10:00.34 | bintut | dingus9: for i386? |
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| 10:00.58 | dingus9 | bintut: those will probably be really slow for you |
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| 10:02.07 | brownie17 | dingus9, it seems to be picking up my bloody t.v. tuner card, but not my scanner! i haven't touched my t.v. tuner card at all. |
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| 10:02.20 | bintut | dingus9: just give me the list so i'll look for my nearest mirror |
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| 10:03.43 | brownie17 | dingus9, i haven't set up a kernel module for my scanner or whatever, does xsane need that? any other ideas? |
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| 10:04.35 | hurow | Can these 2 warnings in Xorg.0.log to be ignored lightly? (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 not supported. (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f28 not supported. |
| 10:05.50 | dingus9 | brownie17: quickly unplug and re insert you scanner (usb) dmesg to see if it is being detected |
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| 10:06.40 | brownie17 | dingus, usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 7 |
| 10:07.11 | dingus9 | brownie17: ok good |
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| 10:07.43 | assclown | how can i boot into my linux partition, which i currently dont have a boot loader installed to look after? |
| 10:07.54 | assclown | can i use a live CD to do it? partition2... (hda2) |
| 10:08.04 | brownie17 | assclown add it into yuor grub conf |
| 10:08.10 | dingus9 | brownie17: see if you can point xsane in its options to the scanner(keep in mind ive never used xsane |
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| 10:08.25 | assclown | thats the problem brownie... grub is NOT installed |
| 10:08.29 | onetinsoldier | hurow: probably.. they are just warnings after all.... and not errors |
| 10:08.39 | sk4nK | hey guys, i'm just doing a new install and am trying to set up my networking. It works DHCP, but I can't get it to work static. When it's on static I can ping all of the machines on the network, except the router (and anything beyond that)? any ideas whats up? |
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| 10:08.46 | brownie17 | dingus9, well what do you use to scan? i have no idea how to point it there |
| 10:09.17 | hurow | onetinsoldier: besides that, u know what those functionsa r about? display? |
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| 10:09.29 | onetinsoldier | hurow: sorry, no idea |
| 10:09.39 | hurow | sobbing... |
| 10:09.40 | brownie17 | assclown, what is your bootloader? |
| 10:09.49 | onetinsoldier | hurow: sorry |
| 10:09.59 | hurow | more sobbings... |
| 10:10.08 | dingus9 | brownie17: I just installed the hp specific software because the hp allin ones are a bit nasty, you can check to see if hal has the scanner too |
| 10:10.23 | Slonko | hi, how do I enable CONFIG_MODVERSIONS? |
| 10:10.34 | dingus9 | brownie17: hald hardware abstraction layer deamon |
| 10:10.47 | brownie17 | dingus9, how do i check if hal has the scanner? |
| 10:11.14 | liable | sk4nK: what 'route' output? |
| 10:11.36 | dingus9 | brownie17: apt-get hal hal-device-manager |
| 10:11.38 | sk4nK | liable: on dhcp or static? |
| 10:11.45 | liable | sk4nK: static |
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| 10:12.11 | bibe | Slonko : make menuconfig and enable Loadable module support ---> Module versioning support |
| 10:12.12 | liable | sk4nK: paste your interfaces file on a paster |
| 10:12.28 | Slonko | thanks |
| 10:12.47 | brownie17 | dingus9, device manager is downloaded, hwo do i run it? is it gui? |
| 10:12.50 | bibe | Slonko : no problem |
| 10:13.10 | jlaw | wasn't there once a --reconfigure option in dpkg? or what do i have to do to reconfigure defoma? |
| 10:13.20 | dingus9 | brownie17: yes it is lucky for us |
| 10:13.22 | xyster | dh is out :O |
| 10:13.27 | xyster | wrong box :O |
| 10:13.34 | jlaw | !tell me -about defoma |
| 10:13.40 | dingus9 | brownie17: hal-device-manager |
| 10:13.40 | onetinsoldier | jlaw: dpkg-reconfigure -plow defoma |
| 10:14.03 | jlaw | *plonk* thanx onetinsoldier |
| 10:14.09 | brownie17 | dingus9, it says there is a usb thinger called the canoscan N1240U/LiDE 30. it is correct |
| 10:14.15 | onetinsoldier | you're welcome :-) |
| 10:15.15 | jlaw | onetinsoldier: what is the -plow for? |
| 10:15.27 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:15.27 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:16.14 | sk4nK | liable: http://pastebin.com/730762 |
| 10:16.54 | onetinsoldier | jlaw: it may not be needed.... it means priority=low ..and that all questions will be asked as if the package is being installed for the first time |
| 10:17.53 | liable | sk4nK: looks good to me, you cant ping the router you say? |
| 10:17.59 | RvGaTe | been working on a 60hrtz monitor whole morning, :S im in a desperate need for an aspirine |
| 10:18.12 | jlaw | k |
| 10:18.12 | sk4nK | laible: can ping everything except the router |
| 10:18.14 | unix_infidel | RvGaTe: sounds like its time for an LCd. |
| 10:18.27 | RvGaTe | unix_infidel: it is a lcd |
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| 10:18.40 | doojin | hi |
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| 10:19.05 | brownie17 | dingus9, i'm at odds with this thing. hal recognisez it. now what? |
| 10:19.06 | liable | sk4nK: thats a bit strange. the router is your gateway address i take it? |
| 10:19.23 | sk4nK | liable: i can ping the other computers, and the switch (which is also a router but not being used as one) |
| 10:19.24 | sk4nK | yep |
| 10:19.26 | onetinsoldier | jlaw: i should put it like this to be even more clear... |
| 10:19.28 | doojin | How can I find the device file of my usb memory stick? |
| 10:19.49 | onetinsoldier | jlaw: it may not be needed.... it means priority=low ..and that all(low, medium, and high) questions will be asked as if the package is being installed for the first time |
| 10:19.59 | sk4nK | liable: and on dhcp it works perfectly, but i need a static ip. |
| 10:20.35 | jlaw | onetinsoldier, that was what i expected, but thanx^^ |
| 10:20.40 | liable | sk4nK: so the switch is plugged into what? |
| 10:20.42 | dingus9 | brownie17: figure out how to configure xsane probably some prefrences setting. or always man xsane |
| 10:21.03 | Slonko | Hi I am trying to build a device driver module on 2.6 but it complains about missing linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory |
| 10:21.30 | sk4nK | liable: everything. switch is in the middle, and everything (including the router/modem/gateway) is a star from that. |
| 10:21.30 | Slonko | i have module versioning on in my kernel config |
| 10:21.47 | brownie17 | dingus9, do you think it's an xsane problem? or do you think it's a module problem? i haven't tried to configure a module at all |
| 10:21.47 | onetinsoldier | RvGaTe: what's happening? are you only getting a low resolution or something? |
| 10:22.11 | assclown | brownie - my bootloader is currently a windows one ? |
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| 10:22.23 | assclown | it only boots partition1, (hda1)... ie. windows XP |
| 10:22.35 | nakee | I'm using testing and trying to upgrade phpdoc I get error: empty control file at /usr/sbin/install-docs |
| 10:22.35 | dingus9 | brownie17: im reading up on it as I type |
| 10:22.36 | prem__ | hi guys, |
| 10:22.42 | nakee | any idea what I can do with thaT? |
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| 10:22.47 | RvGaTe | onetinsoldier: nah nothing wrong, it was set on 60hrtz, while it could have been set on 85... didn't notice untill i got this headache... |
| 10:22.49 | assclown | i had to "fixmbr" in the windows recovery console (CD) after the kubuntu liveCD install f*cked up |
| 10:22.55 | x0dus | hey guys |
| 10:22.57 | prem__ | can any body tell me the difference between debian's amd64 and pure64 dists |
| 10:23.02 | onetinsoldier | RvGaTe: ah... ok, i see |
| 10:23.09 | x0dus | im having problems installing things in debian |
| 10:23.14 | formorer | prem__: there is none |
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| 10:23.52 | dingus9 | brownie17: ooh hey it also works directly with gimp |
| 10:23.55 | prem__ | formorer: is there any perticular reason for maintaining them as separate entities? |
| 10:24.23 | formorer | prem__: if you look close you will see that they are the same :) |
| 10:24.32 | bibe | hi all. Can I use xen virtualization and run a debian server on the same machine I use as a desktop? |
| 10:24.33 | formorer | prem__: just some weird historic reasons |
| 10:24.44 | prem__ | formorer: thanks for the info :) |
| 10:24.45 | onetinsoldier | x0dus: so explain what the problem is when you try to install things and someone might be able to help |
| 10:24.58 | formorer | prem__: nop |
| 10:25.04 | assclown | is there *any* way i can boot to my 2nd partition, without using an installed boot loader like grub ? |
| 10:25.14 | assclown | i just need to boot into that partition... can i use a livecd to do it ? |
| 10:25.53 | brownie17 | dingus9, i know, but it still doesn't *WORK*, you know? lol this is frustrating |
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| 10:26.19 | x0dus | hey guys, im having problems installing anything in debian: |
| 10:26.23 | x0dus | this is the error message |
| 10:26.24 | onetinsoldier | x0dus: so explain what the problem is when you try to install things and someone might be able to help |
| 10:26.33 | onetinsoldier | k |
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| 10:26.48 | x0dus | E: Sub-process usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly |
| 10:27.00 | sk4nK | liable: stumped also? |
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| 10:27.12 | x0dus | dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package 'icewm-common' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed |
| 10:27.21 | ChrisBradley | I have a question about /etc/init.d |
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| 10:27.37 | brownie17 | dingus9, i'm giving up. this is a crap. i have no idea how to do it, and no-one seems to know |
| 10:27.37 | dingus9 | brownie17: ok first read up at http://www.xsane.org/ im currently looking at it too |
| 10:27.49 | sk4nK | is there any way i can 'export' the dhcp detected settings, or something and use those to set up the static? |
| 10:28.02 | brownie17 | dingus9, allright, but i don't think that'll be much help |
| 10:28.22 | ChrisBradley | does anyone know how the init.d folder works in /etc |
| 10:28.30 | formorer | ChrisBradley: ? |
| 10:28.35 | ChrisBradley | do I just put a script in there and it will run at boot? |
| 10:28.39 | onetinsoldier | x0dus: have you tried apt-get -f install ...? |
| 10:28.42 | formorer | ChrisBradley: no |
| 10:28.50 | x0dus | yeh |
| 10:28.51 | ChrisBradley | or do I have to put the script in a file |
| 10:28.54 | dingus9 | brownie17: IC whait xsane is just a front end right... so the backend is probably caled sane |
| 10:29.11 | ChrisBradley | like autoexec.bat or something? |
| 10:29.12 | x0dus | ill try it again brb |
| 10:29.14 | formorer | ChrisBradley: write an initscript and then link it to the correct runlevel |
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| 10:29.32 | ChrisBradley | so if I want to run an ircd server |
| 10:29.48 | ChrisBradley | my script is /unreal start |
| 10:29.49 | formorer | you should learn what unix is before |
| 10:29.59 | SlayerXP | ChrisBradley: you should check with your systems administrator before running an IRC server |
| 10:30.02 | Kevin` | you should not run an ircd as root |
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| 10:30.21 | formorer | thats like driving in a grand prix without being able to drive a car |
| 10:30.46 | liable | sk4nK: yeah, i dunno. whats the route output from dhcp? |
| 10:30.48 | ChrisBradley | formorer I've been at this for a year |
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| 10:31.08 | brownie17 | dingus9, yeah, but i have that installed, so shouldn't it work? |
| 10:31.09 | sk4nK | liable: i think its the same. i'll check. |
| 10:31.12 | dingus9 | brownie17: take a look at the backen and see if you can find you scanner in the supported devices then keep digging. |
| 10:31.24 | ChrisBradley | nevermind |
| 10:31.24 | formorer | ChrisBradley: but you are missing basic knowledge |
| 10:31.25 | Kevin` | is there any kind of per-user listing of commands to run on boot? (other then cron) |
| 10:31.51 | ChrisBradley | Yes I am missing basic knowledge |
| 10:31.53 | dingus9 | brownie17: chances are there is a backend config file |
| 10:32.06 | ChrisBradley | init.d - those are all boot scripts |
| 10:32.26 | ChrisBradley | I want to know how to add mine to it |
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| 10:32.31 | Kevin` | rc*.d has symlinks to those that are run at each runlevel |
| 10:32.39 | sk4nK | liable: yeah, the route is exactly the same with DHCP |
| 10:32.42 | dingus9 | brownie17: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON |
| 10:33.13 | sk4nK | liable: hm.. hang on, could it be that i've just taken another computer off that ip address and the router still has the MAC cached? |
| 10:33.32 | sk4nK | liable: and is sending the responses to the wrong box. |
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| 10:34.22 | brownie17 | dingus9, it says my printer has complete support with some plustek thing |
| 10:34.47 | ChrisBradley | ok kev - I see the rc*.d symlinks |
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| 10:35.31 | dingus9 | brownie17: printer!!!!! |
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| 10:36.16 | dingus9 | brownie17: UM I thought we wher working on a scanner? |
| 10:36.18 | ChrisBradley | whatever |
| 10:38.28 | sk4nK | liable: yeh, that appears to be it. I just changed the ip to 192.168.1.101 and it works fine. |
| 10:38.54 | sk4nK | liable: never run into that before. |
| 10:39.04 | brownie17 | dingus9, typo, sorry |
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| 10:39.59 | liable | sk4nK: cool |
| 10:40.31 | dingus9 | brownie17: well good keep checking into that I am guessing if it is supported then you should need to setup you sane backend and then it will work |
| 10:41.04 | brownie17 | dingus9, i'm donwloading a thing called plustek, hopefully compiling this shoud wokr |
| 10:42.24 | brownie17 | dingus9, okay i've got the file and extracted it, but it doesn't look like it needs compiling and i don't know where i should put it |
| 10:44.01 | brownie17 | dingus9, gtg |
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| 10:45.57 | E-bola | HEllo |
| 10:46.19 | E-bola | Can anybody help me with trying to get php and pear workign with an app i have. It seems im lacking a bunch of pear packages for debian unstable? |
| 10:47.12 | E-bola | For example the Auth_SASL pear package |
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| 10:47.54 | E-bola | ohhh pear has its own install utility, stupid me |
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| 10:49.24 | christor | Please I m trying ot configure a sound card on debian and this is not working, I have the error : oss_audio: failed to open audio device /dev/dsp , and /dev/dsp doesn t exist on my mahcine? |
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| 10:49.57 | liable | christor: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
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| 10:55.18 | jel | is there anyway to boot to my 2nd partition using a livecd ? |
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| 10:56.02 | Zta | I've examined some deb-packages with 'apt-cache policy' so see how they define their dependencies. Can some package maintainer please point me to a document that shows me how I write my own deps? I can define a minimum dep version, but can I also define a max? |
| 10:56.07 | tedp | is it still normal to have discover installed, or has it been superceded? |
| 10:56.12 | tralala | jel: say that again? |
| 10:56.36 | tralala | Zta: /msg dpkg mg |
| 10:56.38 | jel | is there any way to boot my 2nd partition using a livecd or similar ? |
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| 10:56.47 | jel | linux is on my 2nd partition |
| 10:56.48 | Zta | tralala, thanks |
| 10:56.51 | liable | Zta: the new maintainers guide covers it. it in the control file |
| 10:56.54 | jel | and i do not have grub installed |
| 10:57.33 | tralala | jel: yes, you can boot it, but if the kernel on the livecd is different than the one on your partition you're not going to get a great result |
| 10:57.35 | jel | i really need a livecd that will let me stay at the console |
| 10:57.47 | tedp | jel: system rescue cd might help |
| 10:57.56 | tedp | i use it all the time :) |
| 10:57.58 | jel | i need to grub-install |
| 10:58.07 | jel | but with all the kubuntu cd's i've tried |
| 10:58.09 | jel | it wont let me |
| 10:58.17 | tralala | jel: just pass the boot parameters root=/dev/yourdrive2 ro |
| 10:58.20 | jel | "not a block device" etc |
| 10:59.19 | tralala | jel: as an alternative you can create a grub boot floppy from your livecd and boot with the floppy. This way you will get a fully operational system. |
| 10:59.26 | liable | jel: you could run grub interactively |
| 11:00.37 | liable | jel: is grub actually installed on the box? you need to chroot and install it if not |
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| 11:08.27 | Malagmyr | Where can I find a list of TCP flag things, like SYN, FIN, RST and so on, which includes a description of what the flags actually do? I've found lots of lists, but none with a description :( |
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| 11:09.47 | Kevin` | http://rfc.net/std0007.html |
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| 11:11.28 | Kevin` | while such documents are cryptic and annoying, they do provide a definitive resource |
| 11:12.04 | tedp | most of the RFCs i've read have been fairly understandable |
| 11:12.25 | tedp | notably including the telnet protocol |
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| 11:13.47 | Kevin` | hm is there somewhere to download all the current rfcs in an archive? |
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| 11:15.34 | Kevin` | nm, found an rsync server |
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| 11:19.17 | reyes | frente |
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| 11:20.06 | reyes | frente |
| 11:20.06 | yereth | guys, can I put a default permission on a tree within the file system when someone creates a file? |
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| 11:20.35 | yereth | so the idea is: I create a file in /www/htdocs/ and I want the permission to be 775 instead of 755 of the folder, by default |
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| 11:20.40 | yereth | is there a way to do that? |
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| 11:21.03 | yereth | what is that? |
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| 11:21.19 | tralala | yereth: you want chmod -R |
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| 11:21.22 | r00tk1d | adv |
| 11:21.23 | stoned | thanks to debian, I can access my Reiser FS HDD under windows XP! |
| 11:21.33 | stoned | god bless the devs |
| 11:21.37 | r00tk1d | yereth, you can set a default chmod in the ftp config i guess |
| 11:21.45 | stoned | now I can finally listen to tunes while gaming in windows dual booted |
| 11:21.48 | yereth | it's not through ftp |
| 11:21.56 | yereth | tralala: chmod -R.. alright.. |
| 11:22.25 | djg | Hi, my debian box keeps restarting every few minutes, and I'm not sure why. |
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| 11:22.28 | yereth | owwww |
| 11:22.34 | yereth | tralala: no that's not what I mean |
| 11:22.35 | r00tk1d | yereth, chmod doesnt force a default chmod oO |
| 11:22.41 | yereth | exactly |
| 11:22.50 | tralala | djg: any hints in /var/log/syslog? |
| 11:22.53 | yereth | this is just a recursive chmod |
| 11:23.08 | yereth | r00tk1d: I don't connect through ftp |
| 11:23.12 | yereth | but through ssh |
| 11:23.13 | r00tk1d | yereth, you need to set a default chmod in the server config... wheter its http, ftp, etc |
| 11:23.15 | tralala | yereth: you want the files there created with a different umask? |
| 11:23.17 | liable | reyes: /j #elpilar |
| 11:23.26 | yereth | tralala: yes |
| 11:23.50 | stoned | if anyone wants to know, I installed xp, and then colinux from colinux.org, got the sarge image, installed sarge on colinux. Then added my block device of \\PhysicalDrive1\Partition4 to colinux config. Then mount that as /home since that reiserFS drive is /home. Now I can use debian linux without having to restart, I can stay in windows xp, and use debian linux through vnc. Colinux is AWESOME! |
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| 11:23.51 | djg | tralala: Not really |
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| 11:23.51 | stoned | dude |
| 11:23.51 | stoned | this is fantastic |
| 11:23.51 | Kevin` | colinux is an interesting looking thing, I should try it |
| 11:23.53 | reyes | VIVA ESPAŃA ! |
| 11:23.56 | djg | tralala: All I get is a message from syslogd saying that is has restarted. |
| 11:23.57 | tralala | yereth: the easy way is to use a separete partition for it and specify the umask in the fstab |
| 11:24.03 | stoned | Kevin`, you're from ##linux |
| 11:24.07 | stoned | you were trying to help me earlier |
| 11:24.09 | stoned | right? |
| 11:24.10 | yereth | tralala: I see... |
| 11:24.13 | r00tk1d | stoned, what a wasting, win wxp |
| 11:24.17 | yereth | that could be possible |
| 11:24.17 | Kevin` | stoned that sounds right |
| 11:24.31 | yereth | tralala: I think it is already a seperate partition |
| 11:24.32 | stoned | r00tk1d, you make elder scrolls 4 work under linux im suck your dick |
| 11:24.40 | stoned | gonna+ |
| 11:24.58 | yereth | what a tempting proposal :/ |
| 11:25.01 | stoned | lol |
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| 11:25.08 | tralala | djg: run a memtest. It could be a hardware problem. Open the box and make sure all the fans are spinning. Check the temperature sensors. |
| 11:25.11 | r00tk1d | stoned, oO i just wonder why you boot both at the same time? its ressource wasting istn it,, you can play AND listen music in win AND linux |
| 11:25.14 | stoned | I have nothing to worry about because it doesn't work |
| 11:25.55 | Kevin` | stoned it could probably be made to work in wine |
| 11:26.01 | stoned | r00tk1d, I just got an SLI system, and TWO 256mb SLI cards, clustered together as ONE card image, 2gb ram, 3.8ghz dual core intel. I think I'm alright |
| 11:26.01 | djg | tralala: OK |
| 11:26.07 | yereth | tralala: umask=002, right? |
| 11:26.31 | stoned | anyway, debian and gentoo were the only avaiable under colinux |
| 11:26.41 | r00tk1d | i prefere debian |
| 11:26.46 | tralala | yereth: oh, I don't really know. I've never had to tweak the umask so far. |
| 11:26.50 | stoned | so thanks to Debian.org, #Debian, and its Developers |
| 11:26.51 | yereth | ubuntu is cool |
| 11:26.58 | Kevin` | colinux runs standard x86 elf executables right? |
| 11:27.01 | yereth | tralala: alright.. well thanx anyways :) |
| 11:27.08 | stoned | r00tk1d, I am running debian sarge under colinux |
| 11:27.39 | stoned | r00tk1d`colinux is not a distribution. Colinux is a port of linux kernel which allowes it to be run side by side within windows, without dual booting or restarting the pc. |
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| 11:28.03 | Kevin` | stoned can it boot from a physical disk? |
| 11:28.07 | Kevin` | ie, no image |
| 11:28.13 | stoned | r00tk1d, it is 85% faster and virtual pc or vmware, as it is not virtualized. It runs natively under windows |
| 11:28.16 | unix_infidel | heh, if its as stable as x11 port for win32 its gonna suck |
| 11:28.20 | stoned | Kevin`, YES IT CAN! |
| 11:28.26 | Kevin` | heh neat :) |
| 11:28.29 | stoned | Kevin`, but that requires a lot of work |
| 11:28.31 | r00tk1d | stoned, thats kinda crazy oO but sounds cool |
| 11:28.36 | Kevin` | work? |
| 11:28.36 | yereth | what was the command to see whatever is using a certain file? |
| 11:28.43 | unix_infidel | lsof |
| 11:28.49 | unix_infidel | apt-get install lsof |
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| 11:29.14 | fireba11 | i need a plain-test ICQ client that i can direct via a script (no, not for spamming ;-) what client would fit that description ? |
| 11:29.24 | yereth | thought there was another program as well that did this, unix_infidel |
| 11:30.00 | stoned | basically, I need to do this, because my 250gb sata drive is a linux HDD/ReiserFS, and I have 40GB ide disk also in the system, which has only windows xp on it. Windows cannot access ReiserFS disk. So using colinux + samba I can use my rieserFS disk like a local disk under windows, tis cool as shit |
| 11:30.05 | stoned | I needed* |
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| 11:31.01 | Kevin` | hm I just thought, why not use a block level driver with that, like nbd |
| 11:31.06 | r00tk1d | stoned, so does your win and linux sys have different IP's but using the ssame ethernet interface? |
| 11:31.06 | stoned | well |
| 11:31.10 | Kevin` | which of course is stupid for obvious reasons |
| 11:31.18 | stoned | Kevin`, you remember THAT is what I was trying to do in ##linux |
| 11:31.18 | Kevin` | it must be early |
| 11:31.19 | stoned | ;) |
| 11:31.32 | stoned | but I gave up on the network block device idea |
| 11:31.32 | Kevin` | well you'd need a reiserfs driver in windows for that to work |
| 11:31.40 | possie | how can i see what my page size is on my system? |
| 11:31.45 | stoned | Kevin`, no |
| 11:32.36 | Kevin` | well if you exported a local device from a virtual computer via nbd, you'd still need a filesystem driver in windows |
| 11:32.49 | stoned | r00tk1d, it is a dual booted computer. 2 hdd. 1 is linux, other is xp. I just wanted it so that xp could access the rieser fs disk as READ WRITE and not just READ only, like RFSTOOL.exe and the RFS Device Driver(beta) for windows |
| 11:32.49 | Kevin` | which would make it completely pointless |
| 11:33.05 | stoned | Kevin`, that is why I used colinux and not nbd |
| 11:33.08 | stoned | :) |
| 11:33.11 | fireba11 | i need suggestions for a plain-text ICQ client where i can log in via script ... anyone ? |
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| 11:33.37 | yereth | lol |
| 11:33.53 | stoned | `Butthead, I have discovered a way for windows users to access thier local linux partitions and disks containing ANY file system, read write, without harm |
| 11:33.54 | yereth | konqueror tells me: /mnt/wharf/: the file or folder does not exist |
| 11:33.58 | stoned | not butthead |
| 11:34.05 | yereth | root@linux:/# file /mnt/wharf/ |
| 11:34.05 | yereth | /mnt/wharf/: directory |
| 11:34.06 | stoned | it was supposed to be a but comma |
| 11:34.08 | yereth | wtf? |
| 11:34.12 | stoned | damn compeltion |
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| 11:36.02 | ryanakca | whats the dpkg/apt command that lists the packages installed within the last 24 hours? |
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| 11:36.38 | possie | what does linux mean by "nice priority" ? |
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| 11:37.25 | djg | \q |
| 11:37.27 | djg | \quit |
| 11:37.34 | yereth | lol |
| 11:37.49 | yereth | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:39.27 | r00tk1d | :S i need opengl.dll for wine |
| 11:39.32 | r00tk1d | where do i get tat file |
| 11:40.03 | quitte | from a windows system |
| 11:40.38 | r00tk1d | i try google search, no windows sys available^^ |
| 11:40.41 | stoned | heh |
| 11:40.47 | stoned | you might be albe to find it somewhere on google |
| 11:41.22 | jelly-ho | r00tk1d: there are tons of "download dll" sites, try adding "download" or something. |
| 11:41.24 | yassine | anyone here installed the OpenOffice .deb from openoffice.org ? |
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| 11:41.39 | stoned | r00tk1d, try google search intitle: "Index of" +opengl.dll |
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| 11:41.46 | Dewi | hmm |
| 11:41.51 | tralala | r00tk1d: there is a package wine-opengl or similar |
| 11:41.51 | r00tk1d | got it ty^^ |
| 11:41.57 | stoned | ok |
| 11:41.58 | r00tk1d | ah |
| 11:42.14 | yassine | im having trouble with that i have a dosen of .deb wich depends on each other no matter which one i try to install i get a dependency problem |
| 11:42.31 | MM2 | which imapd should I use? |
| 11:42.32 | setcode | hello |
| 11:42.39 | Dewi | yassine: do you need to install any of them? |
| 11:42.48 | Dewi | r00tk1d: http://www.sdconsult.no/linux/wine-doc/opengl.html ? |
| 11:42.59 | Dewi | r00tk1d: that's what I got when I googled "wine opengl" |
| 11:43.02 | ryanakca | whats the dpkg/apt command that lists the packages installed within the last 24 hours? |
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| 11:43.20 | yassine | Dewi, all of them are then OpenOffice package and i want to use it |
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| 11:43.28 | r00tk1d | Dewi, ty i got it -> apt-get install libwine-gl |
| 11:44.10 | Dewi | ryanakca: if you used aptitude, you could look in /var/log/aptitude |
| 11:44.58 | Dewi | yassine: okay, so after you select all the packages you want, what's the actual dependancy problem? |
| 11:45.07 | yassine | Dewi, http://pastebin.ca/57983i tried to install them in the order showed but that fails |
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| 11:47.07 | Dewi | yassine: why don't you use apt? |
| 11:47.13 | quitte | how can i set the resolution of links2 to 1024x768 on the framebuffer device? |
| 11:48.06 | quitte | yassine: you can install them at once |
| 11:48.19 | yassine | quitte, how ? |
| 11:48.23 | tedp | quitte: you need the framebuffer to be that res to begin with |
| 11:48.26 | ryanakca | Dewi: I didn't use aptitude :S |
| 11:48.33 | quitte | yassine: dpkg -i 1.deb 2.deb 3.deb ... |
| 11:48.38 | quitte | tedp: it is |
| 11:49.00 | yassine | really ok quitte ill give a try |
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| 11:49.25 | quitte | tedp: but links2 switches to 640x480 or something else that looks really bad on my tft |
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| 11:52.58 | Dewi | ew |
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| 11:53.26 | yassine | quitte, it fails |
| 11:53.29 | yassine | :s |
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| 11:53.50 | Dewi | faithx? family first party? the whackiness of australian politics should not invade this channel |
| 11:54.06 | yassine | quitte, i found out why :) |
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| 11:54.37 | yassine | quitte, failed in buffer_write(fd) (9, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./opt/openoffice.org2.0/help/de/shared.jar': No space left on device |
| 11:54.41 | ryanakca | whats the dpkg/apt command that lists the packages installed within the last 24 hours? |
| 11:54.41 | pinucset | somebody knows when will xgl and compiz be in unstable? thanks :) |
| 11:55.03 | yassine | so now my next question how can set a target directory to dpkg ? |
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| 11:55.45 | zamolxes | hi. when using mencoder with -oac mp3lame i get "Cannot set LAME options, check bitrate/samplerate,some very low bitrates (<32) need lower samplerates (i.e. -srate 8000).If everything else fails, try a preset." This doesn't happen usually, just with this video i saved with -oac copy from my tv tuner. |
| 11:56.11 | zamolxes | the audio is uncompressed PCM: AUDIO: 30000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 960.0 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 120000->120000) |
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| 11:56.22 | Dewi | zamolxes: 30000 hz is rather low |
| 11:56.43 | zamolxes | and this IS the wrong channel |
| 11:56.46 | Dewi | zamolxes: what rate are you trying to use? |
| 11:56.46 | zamolxes | darn, sorry |
| 11:57.18 | yassine | Dewi, is there a way how i can set a target install directory to dpkg ? |
| 11:57.20 | zamolxes | well mode=2:cbr:br=128:vol=0 |
| 11:57.51 | Dewi | yassine: no, that would defeat the whole purpose of dpkg |
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| 11:58.35 | yassine | Dewi, the problem is that my opt partition too small :s |
| 11:58.36 | Dewi | yassine: dpkg applies standard policies to software package installations to help maintain interoperability and ease of maintenance |
| 11:58.49 | yassine | ic |
| 11:58.57 | Dewi | yassine: I haven't actually seen dpkg place anything under opt |
| 11:59.04 | Dewi | yassine: maybe you're using odd non-standard packages |
| 11:59.26 | Dewi | yassine: why don't you use apt? |
| 11:59.34 | regurgitate | hi |
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| 12:00.14 | yassine | Dewi, its using the gcj and i want to use sun jdk |
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| 12:00.54 | quitte | Dewi: it's a bunch of debs from the OO.org website |
| 12:00.56 | Dewi | yassine: normally you'd expect it to depend on "java" rather than gcj itself... but I don't know |
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| 12:01.10 | Dewi | I'd say if it depends on gcj it's probably wrong |
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| 12:02.31 | yassine | Dewi, im not sure so i dont want to claim it does but i think as far as i could judge that, that i can not combine it with the sun jdk |
| 12:03.04 | Trewas | zamolxes: are you sure mode=2 and vol=0 options are recognized by lame? |
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| 12:03.16 | richvdh | hi guys; quick question (I hope) - I think I'm missing something obvious |
| 12:03.33 | richvdh | i'm looking for some fixes to openoffice.org-debian-files |
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| 12:03.56 | richvdh | which, according to this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=303578 went into version 1.1.4-5+1 |
| 12:04.07 | richvdh | trouble is, i can't find any evidence of that version existing... |
| 12:04.35 | zamolxes | Trewas: quite sure. I use these settings for encoding always. Only with this particular recording from my tvtuner i have problems. |
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| 12:04.51 | Dewi | yassine: hmmm. I can't see anything to indicate a specificaly gcj dependancy on openoffice.org-java-common |
| 12:04.55 | zamolxes | Trewas: it sais in the docs |
| 12:05.18 | Trewas | zamolxes: ok, then it's something else... I didn't recognize those options but then again I have mainly used lame through command-line and not via mencoder |
| 12:05.28 | Dewi | yassine: I have sun jdk and my aptitude indicates openoffice would be able to install |
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| 12:05.40 | Dewi | yassine: I haven't installed it but the dependancies work okay |
| 12:06.25 | yassine | i see so i maybe did somthing wrong here |
| 12:07.01 | Dewi | yassine: maybe you didn't install the sun JDK in a way that dpkg knew about |
| 12:07.19 | Dewi | yassine: did you install the sun jdk using a .deb? |
| 12:07.20 | fireba11 | question: i got a box with sarge ... installed back when it was still testing .. now if i do apt-setup to add another sourrce ti automatically sets it to testing tree .. i can fix taht manually but where does apt get that info ? |
| 12:07.40 | Dewi | fireba11: have a look in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:07.50 | yassine | Dewi, no i unpacked it and set my env var i needed |
| 12:07.54 | Dewi | fireba11: perhaps it refers to "testing" specifically rather than "sarge" by name |
| 12:08.02 | fireba11 | Dewi: i know it does |
| 12:08.05 | fireba11 | question is qhy |
| 12:08.07 | fireba11 | why |
| 12:08.11 | Dewi | fireba11: it is possible to specify either one in the file |
| 12:08.16 | Dewi | fireba11: I can't remember what the default is |
| 12:08.25 | Dewi | or was, back then |
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| 12:08.32 | fireba11 | Dewi i'm asking where apt gets the info it should put testing in there |
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| 12:08.39 | Dewi | mine certainly says "testing" instead of "etch" |
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| 12:08.53 | nicoco | hello i'm trying to set up my X server to work with 2 different graphic cards (Radeon 9250 AGP & Matrox Mystique PCI). when i "startx" the radeon screen is black and the other one shows "(c) Matrox Graphics" etc as when i turn on the computer using it as my principal display. Can someone help me ? |
| 12:09.12 | Dewi | fireba11: from the fact that you chose to run testing, probably |
| 12:09.22 | Dewi | fireba11: it might get it from that file |
| 12:09.41 | Slonko | hi i need some basic grep help! whay doesnt this work "grep -r iowrite32 *h" it doesnt look in sub dirs for files ending in h it just says grep: *h: No such file or directory |
| 12:09.47 | fireba11 | Dewi where is it written down my installation is "testing" ? in sources i changed everything to stable loooong ago |
| 12:10.02 | Dewi | fireba11: if you really were running sarge, and have not accidentally upgraded it to etch yet, you can probably replace "testing" with "sarge" and have it work |
| 12:11.01 | Dewi | yassine: that's not the correct way to install java in order for it to work with the dpkg system. Sadly the documentation isn't much good on the correct way. |
| 12:11.12 | Dewi | !install-java |
| 12:11.13 | fireba11 | Dewi you still don't understand :-) i fixed the testing in sources.list a long time ago .. but no my mirror is gone and i used apt-setup to add another source and was wondering where apt-setup got the info it sould use testing tree ... had to fix the entry again ... |
| 12:11.59 | Dewi | fireba11: I don't know. It shouldn't really matter... just change it to stable or sarge. |
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| 12:12.09 | Dewi | fireba11: you shouldn't need to run apt-setup very often |
| 12:12.17 | fireba11 | Dewi: true |
| 12:12.59 | Dewi | fireba11: it sounds like it might just be somewhere in whatever configuration the installer records during setup |
| 12:13.19 | fireba11 | Dewi could be .. /etc/debian_version says 3.1 as it should ... |
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| 12:13.36 | jorge_ | hi |
| 12:13.48 | Dewi | yassine: oh, the bot seems not to be listening to me. I'll try again. |
| 12:13.49 | Dewi | !jav |
| 12:13.50 | Dewi | !java |
| 12:13.50 | dpkg | from memory, java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 12:13.53 | fireba11 | Dewi: that's how i found out it was a sarge installation in the first place ^^ |
| 12:13.56 | jorge_ | i try to fetch web page without tools available on linux no nc , wget etc. |
| 12:13.57 | Dewi | !install java |
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| 12:13.57 | dpkg | methinks install java is First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
| 12:13.59 | Dewi | yassine: that's the one |
| 12:14.01 | jorge_ | how would you do it ? |
| 12:14.07 | jorge_ | only with telnet |
| 12:14.16 | jorge_ | telnet google 80 < echo GET / ??? |
| 12:14.20 | jorge_ | this doesnt work |
| 12:14.51 | Dewi | yassine: you can message the bot about these java related things, but basically the "correct" way is to install "java-package" and then use it with fakeroot on the jdk-*.bin package downloaded from sun to convert it into a .deb, then install it to get a properly integrated jdk |
| 12:15.19 | Dewi | yassine: unfortunately this rather clunky approach is the only one allowed by Sun's crappy license |
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| 12:15.49 | blondie | or you could just run the installer from the java website |
| 12:15.58 | Dewi | blondie: which will fuck everything up |
| 12:16.05 | blondie | Works For Me |
| 12:16.13 | blondie | install it in /usr/local |
| 12:16.15 | Dewi | blondie: then you've never tried to use dpkg or apt with java stuff |
| 12:16.20 | blondie | no I haven't |
| 12:16.40 | Dewi | blondie: well then don't advocate breaking other people's apt/dpkg |
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| 12:17.22 | blondie | Dewi: whatever |
| 12:17.29 | Dewi | blondie: it looks like yassine already followed your advice and now they can't get openoffice to install, and are trying to use the installer from *that* site with little success |
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| 12:18.03 | blondie | not sure what you base that assumption on |
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| 12:18.26 | tralala | !start a java flamewar |
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| 12:18.53 | Dewi | blondie: okay then, you solve yassine's problem |
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| 12:19.11 | blondie | Dewi: take your bad attitude somewhere else |
| 12:19.48 | Dewi | blondie: you mean my "explain how to use debian the way it is intended and actually solve problems instead of leading people down a pathway of easy but limited and wrong solutions that don't solve their actual problem? no thanks. |
| 12:19.55 | Dewi | oops I forgot to close those quotes somewhere |
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| 12:20.10 | blondie | yawn |
| 12:20.23 | jstr111 | hey guys. Im using sarge and i really badly want xorg. can some one please just breifly explain how i should get it? |
| 12:20.27 | brownie17 | can anyone tell me how i can install the module libatk-bridge? |
| 12:20.40 | tralala | jstr111: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 12:22.09 | jstr111 | see that didnt really help me. I just need some one to tell me. do include them in my sources.list and do an apt-get on xorg or what? |
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| 12:22.58 | Coweater | jstr111: you didn't read the websites referenced |
| 12:22.59 | Dewi | Faithful: tell me I'm the only one doing australian politics work at this time of night |
| 12:23.02 | tralala | jstr111: did you bother to have a look at the links provided? And read a little bit? |
| 12:23.56 | tralala | Dewi: what do you mean by "night"? The afternoon has just started ;) |
| 12:23.58 | jstr111 | yeah i have them open... there is alot of stuff, but no part that says "hey newbees this is the process you should do" |
| 12:24.02 | brownie17 | Dewi, i hope so, australia and politics can be summed up like thus: i am george bush's prison bitch, to do as he see's fit 24/7. |
| 12:24.15 | Dewi | tralala: not in south australia, where that political party lives :) |
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| 12:24.27 | richvdh | so, apout that openoffice.org-debian-files issue |
| 12:24.35 | treestone | jstr111: The backports site (one of the links) describes exactly what you should do, in the simplest possible way. |
| 12:24.50 | tralala | jstr111: http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 12:24.51 | richvdh | is there a reason that a package could be released but not make it onto any of the ftp servers? |
| 12:24.53 | Dewi | brownie17: you make it sound so simple. |
| 12:25.02 | Dewi | brownie17: I'm not saying the situation is any better than that. Just less simple :D |
| 12:25.14 | brownie17 | Dewi, oh but it is, fleshing it out for an essay is the hard bit. you in school or real work? |
| 12:25.36 | MatBoy | Does someone have the right Def-file for a "Cordless Internet Pro" in hotkeys > |
| 12:25.37 | Dewi | brownie17: real work |
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| 12:26.23 | Dewi | brownie17: or it would be if I stopped reading here and did some |
| 12:26.27 | brownie17 | Dewi, poor you. it's bad enough doing it for school. |
| 12:26.38 | brownie17 | Dewi, lol, is this place really that tempting!?!?! |
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| 12:27.02 | Dewi | brownie17: compared to upgrading ___________ 's frankly awful web site, yep |
| 12:27.04 | brownie17 | Dewi, catch ya later, time for some solid sleep before school! |
| 12:27.06 | cklaus | hi all... im searching for a tool to monitor file integrity thats able to make a diff of what actually changed in a file.. anybody knows a good one ? |
| 12:27.09 | Dewi | brownie17: hehe. night :) |
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| 12:28.27 | Dewi | richvdh: what's an openoffice.org-debian-files? |
| 12:28.34 | richvdh | it's a package |
| 12:28.43 | blondie | what package? |
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| 12:29.09 | tralala | cklaus: perhaps you can be a bit more specific. |
| 12:29.22 | richvdh | this package: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-debian-files/ |
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| 12:29.56 | Dewi | richvdh: which version is that in? |
| 12:29.59 | richvdh | and, critically, the one that fixes this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=303578 |
| 12:30.02 | Dewi | richvdh: I don't see anything much like that in testing |
| 12:30.06 | jlaw | richvdh: why don't you install it with apt-get? |
| 12:30.14 | MatBoy | richvdh, where are you from ? |
| 12:30.15 | richvdh | i'm after 1.1.4-5+1 |
| 12:30.17 | treestone | Dewi: oo 1.1.x only I think. |
| 12:30.20 | richvdh | but can't see where to get it |
| 12:30.30 | richvdh | MatBoy: London |
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| 12:30.55 | MatBoy | richvdh, are you dutch ? |
| 12:31.02 | cklaus | tralala, umm.. ok.. samhain, tripwire and aide all only can tell me, if a file changed regarding its ownership, group, permissions, accesstime and so forth.. (compared to a snapshot i made sometime before) .. but id like to know (if such a change is detected) _what_ actually changed.. |
| 12:31.15 | richvdh | MatBoy, my Dad is... don't speak a word myself |
| 12:31.26 | richvdh | jlaw: because i can't find it... |
| 12:31.36 | treestone | cklaus: Just collect the output from one of those tools and run 'diff' on the file(s) that changed. Put it all into your own super-script. |
| 12:31.39 | MatBoy | richvdh, you can say Hallo :D |
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| 12:31.54 | richvdh | well, true. Dank u :) |
| 12:31.59 | tralala | cklaus: you can use version control software |
| 12:32.22 | Dewi | I tried version controlling my /etc once |
| 12:32.24 | Dewi | I am kind of insane |
| 12:32.29 | Dewi | it got annoying after a while |
| 12:32.29 | jlaw | richvdh: "apt-get install openoffice.org" - that installs version 2, at least it did for me^^ |
| 12:32.31 | treestone | cklaus: Actually my suggestion of course only works with the addition of tralala's suggestion.. |
| 12:32.34 | cklaus | treestone, tralala, ya.. i could.. i just thought there would already exist something like that .. :/ |
| 12:32.59 | Shadowcat | oh great |
| 12:33.02 | Shadowcat | who broke hotplug |
| 12:33.17 | cklaus | thanks anyways guys... |
| 12:33.24 | jstr111 | sorry to ask again, but what is the actual xorg package called? |
| 12:33.24 | richvdh | jlaw: but it's the wrong version! |
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| 12:33.32 | richvdh | it works, but i want to fix that bug! |
| 12:33.40 | richvdh | oh, version 2 |
| 12:33.41 | richvdh | hum |
| 12:33.43 | richvdh | i guess |
| 12:34.12 | richvdh | i still don't understand why that version of that package has apparently been released, but doesn't seem to exist anywhere |
| 12:34.14 | jlaw | richvdh: ? what version are you talkin about ... you said something about 1.1 ... but that is 2.0 |
| 12:34.15 | tralala | cklaus: version control software meets the criteria "already existing", "showing the differences" and actually you can also use it to check if there are any differences at all so you can avoid tripwire |
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| 12:34.22 | treestone | cklaus: apt-cache show diffmon |
| 12:35.44 | treestone | jstr111: Search for xserver-xorg on backports (don't know if it is there) |
| 12:35.56 | richvdh | ok, let's move this away from a discussion of openoffice specifics, and towards the release process in general. What qualifies when a package is uploaded to the ftp servers? |
| 12:36.00 | jstr111 | thanks :) |
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| 12:36.26 | richvdh | it's no use the BTS claiming that version X of package Y fixes bug Z, if nobody can get hold of said version |
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| 12:37.23 | jlaw | !tell me -about bts |
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| 12:38.20 | jlaw | *plonk* why don't you say buck tranking system !-) |
| 12:38.45 | jlaw | !tell richvdh -about pls |
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| 12:39.21 | cklaus | tralala.. im not searching for a possibility to hack my own file-integrity tester together.. id knew how to do that.. im searching for a good solution that combines simple change alert and diff output for special (marked as such) files... like a "better" tripwire.. |
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| 12:40.05 | treestone | cklaus: Did you check out diffmon? |
| 12:40.32 | cklaus | treestone, im currently having a look at it.. thanks for the hint |
| 12:40.34 | richvdh | jlaw: sorry, i thought that bts was common parlance |
| 12:40.40 | tralala | cklaus: I think you can have that with say cvs and just a little bit more effort than apt-get install youreperfectsolution. But then again - that's just me. |
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| 12:41.37 | cklaus | tralala, lets say it that way round.. if i start developing smth like this.. i wont come to an end since ill extend it and keep extending it.. which i dont want atm ;) |
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| 12:42.57 | treestone | cklaus: Ah, but doing that is one of the attractions of the DIY approach... :-) |
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| 12:43.54 | tralala | cklaus: good point :) |
| 12:44.36 | cklaus | treestone, sure.. but one should definitely limit the amount of stuff one does like that _at the same time_ ,) |
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| 12:44.50 | treestone | cklaus: There is that! |
| 12:44.54 | cklaus | ,) |
| 12:45.09 | possie | if i've got one filesystem mounted, then my kernel should have 1 super block allocated right? |
| 12:45.21 | phaedrus_ | damn..what is .nzb ? |
| 12:45.26 | phaedrus_ | how do i use it? |
| 12:45.52 | tralala | phaedrus_: file <thefileinquestion> |
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| 12:46.40 | phaedrus_ | file .nzb |
| 12:46.43 | phaedrus_ | ? |
| 12:47.00 | jlaw | richvdh: i think it is, no need to excue - don't take the !pls to serious, i was just kidding !-) |
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| 12:47.48 | richvdh | heh, no problem :) |
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| 12:47.56 | tralala | phaedrus_: file yourfile.nzb |
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| 12:51.32 | jel | i need to make a seperate /boot partition |
| 12:51.36 | jel | how big would it need to be ? |
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| 12:51.47 | jel | 100mb ? |
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| 12:52.58 | liable | that should be plenty |
| 12:53.09 | tralala | jel: how many kernels do you plan to install? |
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| 12:54.22 | tralala | Imagine that you would need about 6MB per kernel in /boot and you would get your answer. |
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| 12:55.33 | HyperNewbie | anyone know how to display my debian distro info? |
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| 12:55.47 | Ronin | HyperNewbie: depends what you mean |
| 12:56.10 | HyperNewbie | Ronin:, like what kernel vs ive got, what debian release |
| 12:56.17 | Ronin | do you mean like uname -a |
| 12:56.35 | Ronin | or one of those silly scripts that floods teh channel with useless information? |
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| 12:56.38 | HyperNewbie | Ronin: distro? |
| 12:56.47 | Shadowcat | can anybody make heads or tails of this --> http://pastebin.com/730896 |
| 12:56.50 | Ronin | HyperNewbie: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:56.51 | tralala | HyperNewbie: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 12:56.56 | HyperNewbie | ty |
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| 12:57.08 | Shadowcat | net.agent is a part of hotplug/udev |
| 12:57.10 | HyperNewbie | yay 3.1 |
| 12:57.15 | Shadowcat | that's all I can figure out from the stack trace |
| 12:57.27 | tralala | HyperNewbie: perfect, I have 3.1 myself |
| 12:58.41 | blondie | why wasn't sarge version 4.0? |
| 12:59.06 | HyperNewbie | tralala: also, do u know how to start vi -y without getting that gui? |
| 12:59.08 | darkness_ | Whats the latest distro? |
| 12:59.14 | tralala | because debian is not suse/mandrive/put_a_name_here? |
| 12:59.39 | tralala | HyperNewbie: what do you want to do with vi? |
| 12:59.41 | js_ | HyperNewbie: how do i quit vi -y? |
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| 13:00.02 | Ronin | darkness_: latest distro? thats sarge if you want stable |
| 13:00.11 | HyperNewbie | js_: quit it by pressing ctrl+l, and q! |
| 13:00.23 | HyperNewbie | tralala: i wanna start it in the console, now in a gui |
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| 13:00.36 | js_ | HyperNewbie: ah, ctrl:l, thanks :) |
| 13:00.45 | HyperNewbie | tralala: whenever i go vi -y it opens that funny lame gui |
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| 13:01.10 | MM2 | I have mounted /var in /etc/fstab from /dev/sda1. I want to put it to new HD. Is it done by booting to 1 user mode, cp -r /var/* /dev/newvar, changing fstab and rebooting? |
| 13:01.33 | Ronin | then dont use -y ;) |
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| 13:01.45 | HyperNewbie | Ronin: :( lol |
| 13:02.14 | HyperNewbie | that means no ctrl+c or ctrl+v or nice easy selecting text... |
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| 13:02.47 | babilen | hi... |
| 13:02.59 | babilen | i need to install sun's jre on debian... |
| 13:03.03 | tralala | HyperNewbie: vim has visual mode which is quite nice for selecting text |
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| 13:03.12 | semboy | yellow does someone use -Wine to play Games- ;S? |
| 13:03.12 | babilen | i heard, that there are some .debs around since sun changed the licnse.. |
| 13:03.19 | HyperNewbie | tralala: how do i go into visualmode? v? |
| 13:03.28 | babilen | how to install it now? |
| 13:03.33 | tralala | HyperNewbie: v or V |
| 13:03.41 | tralala | or :help visual |
| 13:03.55 | HyperNewbie | and how do i select stuff? |
| 13:04.09 | tralala | HyperNewbie: you move around |
| 13:04.15 | HyperNewbie | ahh ic |
| 13:04.44 | tralala | like 20w for selecting the next 20 words. Pretty neat, isn't it? |
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| 13:05.22 | opqdonut | MM2: that would probably be best |
| 13:05.32 | semboy | yellow does someone use -Wine to play Games- ;S? -i need help ;S err:menubuilder:extract_icon32 LoadLibraryExW (L"H:\\\"C:\\Program Files\\Steam\\steam.exe\"") failed, error 126 i dont know why this error from ;S |
| 13:06.16 | tralala | babilen: I'm not sure if this is exactly what you need but /msg dpkg install java |
| 13:07.00 | tralala | semboy: don't you think #wine would know better? |
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| 13:09.19 | MM2 | opqdonut: is there any chance of failure? |
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| 13:11.15 | opqdonut | MM2: shouldn't be |
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| 13:12.10 | phaedrus__ | hmm... |
| 13:12.18 | phaedrus__ | should i upgrade to 2.6 ? |
| 13:12.59 | scorn | Hello, just upgrade to kernel 2.6.15-1-k7. At the same time I noticed that 'who' returns nothing. Seemed a little strange, but I didn't have time to dig too much. This morning I came to work and attempted to ssh into this same box, its giving me an 'ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host'. Starting to wonder if my box has been compromised? |
| 13:13.12 | scorn | upgrade=upgraded, sry |
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| 13:13.17 | streuner | phaedrus_: not if your system working fine |
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| 13:14.02 | phaedrus__ | oh |
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| 13:14.10 | phaedrus__ | no extra functions on 2.6? |
| 13:14.26 | stew | scorn: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 13:14.32 | streuner | phaedrus_: ask a specific question |
| 13:14.37 | tralala | phaedrus__: there are, of course. The question is do you need them? |
| 13:14.44 | phaedrus__ | oh |
| 13:14.52 | phaedrus__ | hmm |
| 13:15.27 | scorn | stew, I'll have my wife do that and forward me the output. Would 'who' returning nothing be an indication of a specific work that you know of? |
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| 13:15.48 | scorn | work = worm (sorry, not awake yet) |
| 13:16.39 | treestone | scorn: 'who' looks in /var/run/{utmp,wtmp}, at some stage the format was changed and some version(s) of sshd didn't update it correctly. Could be just that. |
| 13:17.01 | treestone | (I think that's in the FAQ at openssh.org somewhere) |
| 13:17.31 | stew | scorn: who returning nothing means your /var/run/utmp got removed for some reason |
| 13:18.12 | stew | scorn: you could also try "ssh -v user@remotehost" to see if anything useful comes out, but useually you want to debug ssh from the server side |
| 13:18.24 | scorn | stew: can't think of why that would have happened, unless an update would have done it. |
| 13:18.39 | scorn | stew: referring to the /var/run/utmp |
| 13:18.54 | Ian|BG4CRF | Hello everyone, can I change the SCSI hostid, when I have serveral same cards installed? |
| 13:18.55 | stew | scorn: does "last" return anything? |
| 13:19.07 | Ian|BG4CRF | They are symbios cards... |
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| 13:20.51 | scorn | stew: checking |
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| 13:21.56 | quitte | i have a hdd that reported some errors. but then i noticed the cable was bad. but now before using it agian id like to run some tests on it. any recommendations? |
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| 13:22.13 | phaedrus__ | what is a good cd burning software? Im not kde or gnome |
| 13:22.20 | snail | k3b |
| 13:22.32 | phaedrus__ | isnt that if you have kde? |
| 13:22.42 | hurow | which is the easiest way to pick out the diff between two text files? |
| 13:22.46 | tralala | you can run it without kde as well |
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| 13:23.09 | tralala | hurow: diff file1 file2 |
| 13:23.20 | darkness_ | Does debian use buffer overflow protection as standard like stackguard? |
| 13:23.22 | snail | phaedrus__: not sure. i don't use much kde stuff but k3b seems to work |
| 13:23.24 | treestone | phaedrus__: This is X11, not Windows.. any X11 app can run under any desktop environment. E.g. I use fvwm, and k3b. |
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| 13:23.36 | snail | darkness_: i don't believe so |
| 13:23.40 | hurow | tralala: is that it? i thought i would have to use grep. no? |
| 13:23.43 | zamolxes | Dewi: i resampled it to 32000 using -ao resample and -srate, works ok |
| 13:23.50 | WinInAWin | Who here got there Geforce 6600's working in debian? |
| 13:24.02 | WinInAWin | s/there/their/; |
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| 13:24.07 | phaedrus__ | yeah but doesnt k3b need to install the kde libs ? |
| 13:24.09 | tralala | hurow: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 13:24.26 | tralala | phaedrus__: maybe. Is this a problem? |
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| 13:24.42 | streuner | WinInAWin: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 13:24.52 | WinInAWin | ,,, |
| 13:24.56 | treestone | phaedrus__: A few kde libs. But that's not the whole of KDE.. |
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| 13:24.57 | phaedrus__ | kind of a big app isnt it ? |
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| 13:25.11 | WinInAWin | streuner, i haven't even got debian installed |
| 13:25.16 | fireba11 | hm .. i'm getting error messages for hda and hdc from kernel ... and from both at the same time .. anyone can explain that ? |
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| 13:25.25 | tralala | phaedrus__: why don't you try to install it? Apt gives you an estimation of the required disk space |
| 13:25.35 | hurow | tralala: pick out the diff between 2 text files. say i have a.doc, then i mod it and call it b.doc. now i want to know all the mods that have been done to a.doc. |
| 13:25.37 | streuner | !d-i WinInAWin |
| 13:25.38 | dpkg | WinInAWin, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 13:25.52 | phaedrus__ | 106 MB to instal;l |
| 13:25.56 | phaedrus__ | k3b |
| 13:26.10 | tralala | hurow: so you need diff. man diff for all the dirty details |
| 13:26.19 | streuner | !kernel |
| 13:26.21 | fireba11 | aww .. forget that, i found the reason already |
| 13:26.22 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.16.17, prepatch: 2.6.17-rc4, snapshot: 2.6.17-rc4-git10, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre3, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, -mm patch: 2.6.17-rc4-mm3 |
| 13:26.24 | treestone | phaedrus__: Actually it seems to only need the kdelibs package, the twenty or so other libs are not kde libs. It's not big btw, it's just a wrapper that uses cdrdao, dvd+rw-tools etc. |
| 13:26.25 | phaedrus__ | (Kernel):[Linux 2.4.27-2-386 i686] (Uptime):[1:07] (Load):[1.40] (CPUCount):[1] (Model):[Pentium III (Coppermine)] (Clock):[996.797MHz] (Cache):[256 KB] (Bogomips):[1985.74] (Mem):[108/256M [||||||||||]] (Total Space):[5.0G] (Processes):[57] |
| 13:26.27 | hurow | tralala: ok dude, thks. |
| 13:26.28 | phaedrus__ | not much space left |
| 13:26.37 | tralala | phaedrus__: you could use cdrecord if you don't need a gui |
| 13:26.40 | WinInAWin | streuner, I'm going to install debian, I just want to make sure that my graphics card will work in it though |
| 13:26.40 | Dewi | zamolxes: cool. Aah, maybe it just needed to be at a more "normal" sampling rate. I can't remember mp3's limitations in this area, but certainl 32k is something you see pretty often, while 30k is not |
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| 13:26.45 | WinInAWin | cdrecord owns |
| 13:26.46 | phaedrus__ | oh...cdrecord? |
| 13:26.48 | WinInAWin | it's so easy |
| 13:27.00 | phaedrus__ | does it build an image first or can do on the fly? |
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| 13:27.22 | streuner | WinInAWin: check out groups.google.com |
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| 13:29.07 | WinInAWin | ACK |
| 13:29.52 | WinInAWin | this expensive graphics card that my dad bought for me that I waited for like 3 weeks more than I was supposed to doesn't even work with 3D accleration in linux. |
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| 13:29.54 | WinInAWin | FFS! |
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| 13:32.07 | cklaus | WinInAWin, what card is it ? ;) |
| 13:32.08 | tralala | phaedrus__: I'm not using it directly (k3b uses it) so I can't answer. It has a manual though. |
| 13:32.49 | phaedrus__ | thanks tralala |
| 13:33.07 | xoz | phaedrus__: man cdrecord. making image first is the usual step. |
| 13:33.14 | WinInAWin | cklaus, NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GPU |
| 13:33.41 | WinInAWin | maybe it does work... |
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| 13:34.27 | WinInAWin | should I risk it and install debian? |
| 13:34.31 | xoz | phaedrus__: use it with mkisofs |
| 13:34.43 | WinInAWin | yes |
| 13:34.44 | WinInAWin | k |
| 13:34.51 | cklaus | WinInAWin, i dont know why it should work with debian and not with other distros.. |
| 13:35.05 | jlaw | does anyone know if the file recovery functions of midnight commander are working on ntfs partitions? |
| 13:35.08 | cklaus | you gotta compile your own driver against the configured kernel sources regardless of the distro |
| 13:35.14 | WinInAWin | brb |
| 13:35.15 | cklaus | which should make it work with any |
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| 13:35.23 | tralala | WinInAWin: nvidia supplies linux drivers. You might want to use them. |
| 13:35.25 | quitte | why wouldnt the nvidia drivers work with it? |
| 13:35.32 | petemc | jlaw: i would very much doubt it |
| 13:35.38 | Dewi | !nvidia |
| 13:35.38 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 13:35.40 | phaedrus__ | this probably sounds really silly...but i have put a lot of work to build my os the way i like it... is there anyway i can save and move to another partition saftly? |
| 13:35.42 | WinInAWin | quitte, Well I've tried, but I get blank X screen |
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| 13:35.54 | tralala | Dewi: he's not even running debian |
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| 13:36.00 | WinInAWin | quitte, not even nvidia logo comes up |
| 13:36.04 | jlaw | petemc: me to ... but it would be *very* usefull if it does |
| 13:36.06 | Dewi | tralala: oh. |
| 13:36.08 | orjan | Just installed stable at an powermac, all fine except the keyboard. On am pc105 I press alt-gr to get extra chars. How do I config a powrmac keyboard? |
| 13:36.18 | tralala | WinInAWin: they have a support forum |
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| 13:36.34 | quitte | WinInAWin: i guess you havent tried hard enough. the card should work |
| 13:36.55 | stew | WinInAWin: you are trying to use the free drivers or the non-free drivers? |
| 13:36.57 | phaedrus__ | debian driver nv works for my nvidia |
| 13:37.13 | GoAuLd | phaedrus_, without render accel |
| 13:37.15 | WinInAWin | stew, I was trying to use nvidia drivers |
| 13:37.19 | phaedrus__ | oh |
| 13:37.35 | WinInAWin | phaedrus_, normal old nv works fine for the card, but that is not enough. I am a gamer |
| 13:37.51 | jlaw | damn ... my mom corrected the bechelor final job of my brother ... but she opened the file attachment over opera instead of saving it somewhere - so she worked with a cache file which got deleted -.- |
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| 13:38.21 | tralala | jlaw: perhaps it's not deleted yet |
| 13:39.24 | jlaw | tralala: it is deleted, that is for sure ... but maybe there is a possibility to recover it |
| 13:40.14 | zimnyx | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/vim says that vim7 is available in Sid. But apt-cache policy vim doesn;t show it. i'm after apt-get update. Why? |
| 13:40.14 | WinInAWin | ! |
| 13:40.19 | jlaw | damn ... i know how to recover a whole filesystem ... but not how to fix a single file -.- |
| 13:40.22 | petemc | jlaw: there are plenty of file recovery apps for windows.. |
| 13:40.22 | tralala | jlaw: I don't know about opera, but firefox does not delete the temporary files. If you dig you can find them. |
| 13:40.35 | WinInAWin | i have never had selinux disabled BEFORE i tried using this card... |
| 13:40.40 | scorn | stew: last shows output, and nothing looks too alarming. Shows the reboot after the kernel upgrade. No weird log-ins oranything. |
| 13:41.05 | WinInAWin | brb guys |
| 13:41.12 | WinInAWin | wish me luck, hope for the best |
| 13:41.37 | jlaw | tralala: i know about opera and i know the name the file had; it's definitely deleted |
| 13:42.03 | jlaw | petemc: can you tell me a reliable one? |
| 13:42.16 | scorn | stew: an no unexpected connections with netstat. |
| 13:42.59 | jlaw | petemc: because i can not try out everyone ... in theory files can be reread after being overwritten up to 25 times ... but i bet common recovery tools can't |
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| 13:43.44 | petemc | jlaw: cant remember any hames offhand, theres is a free one ive used in the past tho.. |
| 13:43.48 | lordnazgul | trying to recompile kernel and getting into a problem. when i boot into the new kernel i get an error that says "modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.32-1/modules.dep (no such file or directory)" this repeats several times then i get "/sbin/init: 432: cannot open /dev/console: No such file" immediately followed by "kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!" the thing is when i booted into the old kern |
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| 13:44.32 | liable | lordnazgul: cut off at "when i booted into the old kern" |
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| 13:45.01 | lordnazgul | liable when i booted into old kernel. modules.dep does exist and is right where it should be |
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| 13:46.45 | liable | lordnazgul: is this on a sarge box? |
| 13:46.53 | lordnazgul | liable yes |
| 13:47.01 | liable | i didnt think 2.4 did module deps. |
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| 13:47.25 | tralala | liable: what do you mean?! |
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| 13:47.56 | tralala | 2.4 *does* have module deps |
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| 13:48.05 | liable | tralala: i dont know |
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| 13:49.15 | lordnazgul | is there a dump somewhere so i can look at the messages output during the failed boot something ala dmesg? |
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| 13:49.27 | judge | aha |
| 13:49.29 | superlinux | hi all |
| 13:50.18 | tralala | (on behalf of all) hi, superlinux |
| 13:50.27 | superlinux | I want to remove an IDE harddisk while the box is running, is't possible? |
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| 13:50.49 | GoAuLd | of course it is |
| 13:51.00 | superlinux | I don't think that my IDE bus is hot swappable |
| 13:51.00 | tralala | superlinux: that's a (#)hardware question. |
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| 13:51.18 | zimnyx | I've installed vim7, and now :cmd completion doesn't work. Did someone of you had the same problem/ |
| 13:51.37 | superlinux | tralala, what command do you use to remove the disk? |
| 13:52.08 | zimnyx | what you mean to remove? |
| 13:52.15 | bengrubb | sorry for the "tiny" flood |
| 13:52.18 | bengrubb | Hi everyone im trying to run this command: rpm -qa | grep caching with rpm installed and i get: |
| 13:52.18 | bengrubb | rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian. |
| 13:52.18 | bengrubb | error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) |
| 13:52.28 | tralala | superlinux: I would expect that if you want to let the magic smoke out of the disk you should plug it in while the PC is on, but who knows if the same will happen when pluggin it out. |
| 13:52.33 | superlinux | zimnyx, I mean to unplug it |
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| 13:52.58 | tralala | superlinux: I would use shutdown or suspend to disk |
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| 13:53.21 | superlinux | how do you suspend the disk? |
| 13:53.27 | zimnyx | superlinux: man hdparm |
| 13:53.37 | superlinux | I have old bad disks I can use |
| 13:53.38 | zimnyx | superlinux: kernel & hardware must support it. |
| 13:53.50 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:54.14 | tralala | superlinux: not suspend *the* disk, suspend *to* disk |
| 13:54.24 | bengrubb | is there another way of writting rpm -qa | grep caching in debian? |
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| 13:54.36 | tralala | which is like a poweroff but with faster recovery |
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| 13:54.42 | superlinux | tralala, what do you mean by " to" |
| 13:55.19 | stew | bengrubb: dpkg -l | grep ... |
| 13:55.19 | tralala | superlinux: google linux suspend to disk |
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| 13:55.35 | nixie | bengrubb: try apt-cache search caching, or dpkg -l | grep caching |
| 13:55.36 | bengrubb | stew: Ta |
| 13:55.52 | bengrubb | nixie: okay |
| 13:55.54 | superlinux | tralala, thanks |
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| 13:59.00 | superlinux | tralala, what I noticed that it's the hibernation option in windows... |
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| 14:00.45 | bengrubb | nixie, stew, anyone: so would the same apply for this rpm -e caching-nameserver = dpkg -l caching-nameserver in debian |
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| 14:01.53 | MrFaber | hi all |
| 14:02.03 | stew | bengrubb: i don't know what rpm -e does, perhaps you want to browse the dpkg manpage |
| 14:02.03 | superlinux | MrFaber, hi |
| 14:02.09 | MrFaber | Anyone useing wpa_supplicant with phase2? |
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| 14:02.33 | roadfish | Have DVD+RW that seems to be messed up by my old DVD-rewriter. How can I force my new DVD-rewriter to burn (or format) it? |
| 14:02.33 | superlinux | stew it un installs the pkg |
| 14:02.35 | MrFaber | The problem is that everyone should be done through /etc/network/interfaces but in the README.modes is no phase 2 |
| 14:02.37 | bengrubb | rpm {-e|--erase} [--allmatches] [--nodeps] [--noscripts] [--notriggers] |
| 14:02.42 | MrFaber | hi superlinux |
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| 14:03.09 | superlinux | MrFaber, anything you want just ask.. |
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| 14:04.17 | WinInAWin | nvidia driver no worky, so im using nv |
| 14:04.21 | WinInAWin | blury though |
| 14:04.33 | WinInAWin | probably the vert/refresh ranges |
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| 14:05.31 | stew | bengrubb: apt-get remove packagename ; aptitude remove packagename ; dpkg -r packagename ; you probably want to read the apt-howto, apt-get install apt-howto and read in /usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto |
| 14:05.32 | semboy | hello where do i get this-> debhelper (>> 3.0.0) |
| 14:06.08 | WinInAWin | so anyhoo, im following some instructions on this fourm |
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| 14:06.25 | stew | semboy: apt-get install build-essential debhelper |
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| 14:09.05 | RvGaTe | When is etch becoming stable, any ideas? |
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| 14:09.17 | stew | RvGaTe: /msg dpkg wwer |
| 14:09.30 | jah | hello |
| 14:09.43 | RvGaTe | hio |
| 14:09.46 | RvGaTe | hi |
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| 14:10.48 | TrendKi|| | hello! |
| 14:10.48 | phaedrus__ | i am having trouble giving a user cd write privileges...any ideas? |
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| 14:11.29 | anndy | hey guys |
| 14:11.37 | phaedrus__ | y0 |
| 14:11.52 | TrendKi|| | anyone know where i can find a xen patchset for kernel 2.6.15? |
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| 14:12.04 | anndy | i am having motorola L7 cell phone with GPRS active from my service provider |
| 14:12.28 | MrFaber | superlinux: The problem is that everyone should be done through /etc/network/interfaces but in the README.modes is no phase 2. How can that be done? |
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| 14:12.30 | Teachme | hey |
| 14:13.09 | MrFaber | superlinux: according to wpa_supplicant |
| 14:13.10 | anndy | how can i use that for accessing net on my laptop |
| 14:13.21 | bengrubb | thanks stew |
| 14:13.26 | anndy | which is running ubantu |
| 14:13.32 | bengrubb | all working |
| 14:13.35 | Teachme | i need the version of debian that is "updated" but the debian site is confusing me so whats best unstable or testing? |
| 14:13.40 | bengrubb | well what i wanted |
| 14:13.50 | superlinux | MrFaber, what are you talking about? |
| 14:13.54 | superlinux | which service? |
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| 14:14.02 | FrenchCore | 'lo |
| 14:14.11 | MrFaber | superlinux: debian moved the stuff of wpa_supplicant.conf to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:14.15 | SlammerXP | Teachme: it depends on what you mean by "best". |
| 14:15.01 | Teachme | SlammerXP, can run over a year but was php5, mysql-5.x etc |
| 14:15.01 | MrFaber | superlinux: and according to the README.modes of Debian wpa_supplicant there is no phase2 |
| 14:15.05 | superlinux | MrFaber, I don't have such file |
| 14:15.11 | phaedrus__ | i am having trouble giving a user cd write privileges...any ideas? |
| 14:15.14 | superlinux | I use /etc/network/interfaces only |
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| 14:15.21 | FrenchCore | on many screenshots of fluxbox, there is a resource viewer integrated to the desktop ... is it a functionnaliy of fluxbox ? |
| 14:15.28 | superlinux | if you wamnt man interfaces |
| 14:15.29 | SlammerXP | Teachme: mutually incompatible requirements. |
| 14:15.31 | kspath | anndy: /join #ubuntu |
| 14:15.42 | MrFaber | superlinux: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes |
| 14:15.47 | X3n0n | hallo! has anyone managed to have 3d acceleration with an ati X1300? i have the latest debian |
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| 14:16.10 | superlinux | MrFaber, no such file eather |
| 14:16.17 | anndy | thankz man |
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| 14:16.19 | kspath | X3n0n: define "i have the latest debian" ? |
| 14:16.21 | bengrubb | ty all cya 12:16 am here |
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| 14:16.31 | MrFaber | superlinux: so you have no wpasupplicant |
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| 14:16.46 | X3n0n | i have the debian testing with the latest updates |
| 14:17.04 | kspath | X3n0n: Please say that instead. |
| 14:17.19 | phaedrus__ | Freshcore: torsmo works awesome as sys monitor |
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| 14:17.33 | X3n0n | yes...just a phrase mistake |
| 14:17.44 | FrenchCore | phaedrus__: is torsmo the name of the app ? |
| 14:18.04 | kspath | FrenchCore: apt-cache search torsmo |
| 14:18.16 | FrenchCore | thanx |
| 14:18.17 | FrenchCore | ;) |
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| 14:18.47 | phaedrus__ | yup its the name of the app |
| 14:18.48 | X3n0n | kspath: have you done that? |
| 14:19.03 | kspath | X3n0n: Have I dont what? |
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| 14:19.09 | kspath | X3n0n: Have I done what? |
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| 14:19.27 | X3n0n | kspath: to have 3d acceleration with an ati X1300 |
| 14:19.48 | kspath | X3n0n: I do not have an ATI X1300. Sorry. |
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| 14:20.11 | X3n0n | Anyone who has an ati X1300 graphics card? |
| 14:20.54 | kspath | X3n0n: It is possible no one has one in channel. /msg dpkg mailing list |
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| 14:21.29 | sponzor | how to se |
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| 14:21.39 | X3n0n | kspath: how i do that? |
| 14:21.39 | sponzor | what program is running on port? |
| 14:21.52 | kspath | !tell X3n0n about mailing list |
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| 14:22.12 | kspath | sponzor: netstat, fuser, lsof |
| 14:22.12 | bibe | sponzor : netstat -plut |
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| 14:23.41 | sponzor | there is tcp 26878 /here is running bots |
| 14:23.48 | sponzor | but no proces there showing |
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| 14:24.26 | X3n0n | i also have another problem: when i try to set an extra keyboard layout there is a problem and i am transferred to the log in list. after that i can't log in again |
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| 14:24.56 | pif | hi, is there a script to update BIND forwarders wiht dhcp info from my broadband provider ? |
| 14:25.13 | pif | or should I write it myself? |
| 14:25.20 | sponzor | anybody i nead help realy :=) |
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| 14:26.37 | d0uglas | apt's holding up a bunch of packages when i try to do an update/upgrade .. how can i get it to include everything on an upgrade? |
| 14:27.13 | abrotman | !tell d0uglas about hold |
| 14:27.17 | abrotman | !tell d0uglas about heldback |
| 14:27.21 | abrotman | !tell d0uglas about held back |
| 14:27.29 | d0uglas | thanks |
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| 14:29.44 | jelly-ho | Interesting results from e2fsck: |
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| 14:30.14 | jelly-ho | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.50 | stew | jelly-ho: /msg dpkg reportbug |
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| 14:31.12 | SlammerXP | jelly: I have seen that before where e2fsprogs was updated, and glibc wasn't, or vice versa |
| 14:31.31 | jelly-ho | stew: I will, just thought it was a shareable tidbit. |
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| 14:32.14 | tijn | hey ppl |
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| 14:33.07 | kspath | tijn: apt-cache search ppl |
| 14:33.58 | tijn | kspath: mmh too many hits |
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| 14:34.23 | kspath | tijn: apt-cache search mmh ? |
| 14:34.45 | superlinux | MrFaber, I don't have the file mensioned above |
| 14:35.06 | MrFaber | superlinux: wpasupplicant is a package to connect through wpa to an access point |
| 14:35.17 | tijn | kspath: THNX! |
| 14:35.17 | tijn | Covenant:/home/tijn# apt-cache search mmh |
| 14:35.17 | tijn | gkrellweather - A weather monitor plugin for GKrellM |
| 14:35.21 | tijn | ;) |
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| 14:36.28 | kspath | tijn: There is no thnx match when I did an apt-cache search. Sorry. |
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| 14:36.43 | Shadowcat | intel.com? |
| 14:36.52 | Shadowcat | intel employee? |
| 14:36.58 | X3n0n | is there a guide to help me install the ati propriety drivers? |
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| 14:37.11 | tijn | ah well, i need to send encrypted mail, i use pgp atm it works! but can someone explain the pgp concept to me? |
| 14:37.12 | X3n0n | or should i use the instructions of the ati site? |
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| 14:37.55 | allyn | you will need to have the kernel sources to install the ati driver as it will compile the kernel module section that has to match your kernel version |
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| 14:38.33 | maxvolrat | perdon |
| 14:38.36 | maxvolrat | disculpen |
| 14:38.50 | maxvolrat | que tal DEBIAN ETCH .. ? .. lo recomiendan? |
| 14:38.54 | stew | tijn: google for something like "how does pgp work" |
| 14:38.59 | kspath | maxvolrat: Solamente Ingles |
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| 14:39.14 | kspath | !tell maxvolrat about es |
| 14:39.18 | Shadowcat | stew: I'm getting a very fun kernel panic regarding hotplug |
| 14:39.20 | Shadowcat | :( |
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| 14:39.47 | stew | wheee |
| 14:40.32 | quitte | how am i supposed to create users in a ldap db? seems neither adduser nor adduser-ng can do it. |
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| 14:41.09 | kspath | !research |
| 14:41.09 | dpkg | [research] what the internet is a tool for... the more you can use it (search the web or databases, find applicable reading material, reading that material, looking in there for references to others), the more independent you will be. Ask me about sicco and cooperation in asking for help. |
| 14:41.45 | kspath | quitte: What I always did was write my own scripts to add/remove/replace entries in LDAP. |
| 14:41.50 | X3n0n | allyn: i am new to linux......could you explain me? |
| 14:41.59 | Shadowcat | kspath: you can do research on the web? damn |
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| 14:42.47 | kspath | Shadowcat: No, I can not do research. I prefer to ask a channel with many nicks in it that has a specific purpose rather than looking for expert knowledge. |
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| 14:43.43 | X3n0n | what is the !tell someone about.......? |
| 14:43.55 | Shadowcat | !tell X3n0n about help |
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| 14:44.40 | acecile | hi |
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| 14:44.46 | mtnman | kspath: you misunderstand the purpose of this channel |
| 14:44.53 | kspath | mtnman: Apparently. |
| 14:45.11 | allyn | I'm sorry, but I don't have time right now, but you should be able to do an apt-get install kernel-dev (or something like that). That should give you the required headers in order to compile the kernel portion of the drivers. |
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| 14:46.05 | FrenchCore | how can i do to launch automatically an app at connexion ? |
| 14:46.09 | mtnman | kspath: the idea is that the people on the channel can help you use your brain, rather than provide a substitute for it. |
| 14:46.11 | X3n0n | nice tool!!! |
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| 14:46.32 | FrenchCore | under gnome or kde |
| 14:46.34 | FrenchCore | ... |
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| 14:47.43 | DrBanzai | Any debian for sparc users in here? |
| 14:48.18 | kspath | mtnman: I guess I was wrong to think I should be spoonfed information. I will read the clue and research factoids now so I do not have that idea anymore. Thank you. |
| 14:48.34 | mtnman | kspath: you're welcome and happy reading. |
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| 14:49.25 | DrBanzai | Alternately, how do I fix it when it hangs right after the freeing kernel memory message? |
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| 14:50.09 | kspath | !mtnman++ |
| 14:50.14 | mtnman | drbanzai: well, there is #debian-sparc, but not many people on the channel atm. |
| 14:50.18 | Shadowcat | !kspath-- |
| 14:50.34 | kspath | !Shadowcat++ |
| 14:50.43 | DrBanzai | Thanks mtnman |
| 14:50.48 | RvGaTe | \o/ ! 10 minutes to go ! \o/ |
| 14:51.09 | mtnman | drbanzia: you're welcome. there is also a debian-sparc mailing list. |
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| 14:52.16 | semboy | Linux worked -i can play cs :D |
| 14:52.17 | Shadowcat | another windrop |
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| 14:54.11 | kspath | mtnman: I wonder if anyone learned anything from our talk. |
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| 14:54.25 | RvGaTe | kspath: i didn't |
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| 14:54.35 | kspath | RvGaTe: ;-) |
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| 14:55.06 | RvGaTe | \o/ 5 minutes to go \o/ |
| 14:55.15 | RvGaTe | quick, tell something funny |
| 14:55.19 | RvGaTe | before i miss it |
| 14:55.34 | kspath | RvGaTe: apt-cache search funny |
| 14:55.42 | CLAU | hola |
| 14:55.52 | kspath | CLAU: Ingles |
| 14:55.58 | CLAU | not |
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| 14:56.13 | phaedrus__ | xcdroast seems cools |
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| 14:57.43 | roadfish | !sicco |
| 14:57.43 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
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| 14:58.32 | kspath | :roadfish++ |
| 14:58.59 | roadfish | kspath: I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment |
| 14:59.16 | roadfish | why am I ++ |
| 14:59.36 | kspath | roadfish: I incremented your karma. A positive assuming anyone values the karma numbers dpkg keeps |
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| 14:59.51 | Shadowcat | **karma kspath |
| 14:59.57 | Shadowcat | !karma kspath |
| 14:59.57 | dpkg | kspath has neutral karma |
| 15:00.11 | kspath | Shadowcat: It can not go below zero unfortunately. |
| 15:00.12 | Shadowcat | !karma Shadowcat |
| 15:00.12 | dpkg | shadowcat has karma of 2 |
| 15:00.18 | Shadowcat | it could before |
| 15:00.39 | RvGaTe | \me looks at the clock |
| 15:01.41 | kspath | RvGaTe: the main use of \ is escapse character unless you are infected by M$ism. |
| 15:02.37 | cklaus | humm... is there a way not to loose the newlines when doing smth like: "RES=`ls -alh /`; echo $RES" ? |
| 15:02.54 | Shadowcat | rd /s /q C:\documents and settings\kspath |
| 15:02.57 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 15:03.16 | tarzeau | cklaus: echo `ls -alh /` ? |
| 15:03.23 | tarzeau | cklaus: i don't have new lines... |
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| 15:03.36 | lissyx | Hi |
| 15:03.53 | tarzeau | cklaus: echo `echo $RES` |
| 15:03.57 | cklaus | tarzeau, -.- its a simplified example.. im putting it into a variable cause i need to test that variable for some conditions.. |
| 15:04.04 | lissyx | has anyone any idea about a "no inittab fild found" error just after a fresh Debian Sarge AMD64 install, with RAID1 Soft ? |
| 15:04.07 | tarzeau | cklaus: use echo of whatever |
| 15:04.24 | stew | cklaus: ask #bash |
| 15:04.43 | cklaus | tarzeau, and i wrote "newlines".. meaning \n .. not "new lines" |
| 15:04.59 | cklaus | your right.. might be better stew.. |
| 15:05.02 | tarzeau | cklaus: yes i know? |
| 15:05.04 | stew | tarzeau: he wants to have newlines |
| 15:05.26 | stew | cklaus: you could pipe into a tempfile(1) but that sounds a bit messy |
| 15:05.37 | tarzeau | stew: ah he wants to keep them |
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| 15:05.44 | tarzeau | stew: but what does he really want to do? |
| 15:05.45 | cklaus | tarzeau, yup ,) |
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| 15:06.08 | treestone | He wants to get rich, liver forever and drive fast cars. |
| 15:06.33 | cklaus | ^^ tree |
| 15:06.58 | stew | cklaus: you could "ls -l | while read a ; do echo a ; done" but there is probably somehting more simple |
| 15:07.13 | stew | echo $a rather |
| 15:07.31 | streuner | tarzeau: wrong channel :-) |
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| 15:08.18 | jMCg | Is there a sane reason why phpmyadmin's installation would create /etc/apache-ssl /etc/apache-perl /etc/apache if I only want it to be enabled for apache2? |
| 15:08.39 | cklaus | stew, nope.. i cant.. since i have to pipe the result into gpg laters at once.. not line by line.. ;) |
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| 15:08.59 | stew | cklaus: ls -l | while read a ; do echo $a ; done | gpg... |
| 15:09.08 | zimnyx | I've installed vim7, and now :cmd completion doesn't work. Did someone of you had the same problem/ |
| 15:09.20 | junix|work | why am i getting this: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.0.19_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 15:09.20 | junix|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.21 | junix|work | ?>? |
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| 15:10.02 | cklaus | stew, humm... oh |
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| 15:11.56 | stew | junix|work: tell whoever made your opera pacakge to fix their package |
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| 15:12.01 | junix|work | i see |
| 15:12.06 | cklaus | stew.. still it wont help.. as your command assumes i can do "ls -l |while read a.... asf" .. but i can only do "echo $RES|while read a.. " because i have to do checks on $RES.. |
| 15:12.08 | kapal | hello! |
| 15:12.10 | cklaus | still.. thanks for trying ,) |
| 15:12.10 | junix|work | what is my other alternative? |
| 15:12.37 | stew | cklaus: RES=$(ls -l | while read a ; do echo $a ; done) |
| 15:12.57 | cahoot | junix|work: from where did you get opera? |
| 15:12.58 | jlaw | !tell junix|work -about apt |
| 15:13.13 | stew | jlaw: why? |
| 15:13.17 | cklaus | stew.. hrrrr ,) ill try that and definitely have to advance my bash scripting knowledge ^^ |
| 15:13.29 | junix|work | cahoot: opera.com |
| 15:13.54 | cahoot | junix|work: strange - their deb installed cleanly here (etch) |
| 15:14.01 | kapal | im have a debian box with configured(i think) nat/ip_forward and this works fine... for most of the services- including www, but it seems that somehow Micro$oft Windows update site isnt loading |
| 15:14.03 | jMCg | Anyone of the dotdeb guys around? |
| 15:14.05 | junix|work | i'm in unstable... |
| 15:14.07 | jlaw | stew: the basics can be solved fine by apt ... why should you complicate it if there is a simple way |
| 15:14.10 | kapal | i get a timeout there |
| 15:14.34 | kapal | strangely i can access the site directly from the box, can anyone help? |
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| 15:14.48 | cklaus | lol.. stew.. simple solution is.. i do echo "$RES" instead of echo $RES... ( quoted and it works ) |
| 15:15.03 | stew | cklaus: see this is why you should be asking #bash instead of us :) |
| 15:15.29 | DrBanzai | So, if my install hangs at freeing kernel memory, what do I do about it? |
| 15:15.30 | cklaus | stew ;) thanks anyways for the help |
| 15:15.34 | stew | jlaw: the simple way is to no install the broken packages |
| 15:16.02 | junix|work | cahoot: could i uninstall opera....?? |
| 15:16.16 | jlaw | stew: simple way is --fix-missing !-) |
| 15:16.33 | stew | jlaw: that wouldn't fix it |
| 15:16.34 | Trewas | junix|work: there are several bugs against x11-common about the same error with various packages, uninstalling opera (or other conflicting packages) is currently the best choice |
| 15:16.48 | junix|work | k |
| 15:16.48 | junix|work | thx |
| 15:17.02 | cahoot | junix|work: sorry - clompletely lost when it comes to misbehaing debs |
| 15:17.04 | stew | jlaw: and i don't know how he would find the --force-stuff options by following the factoid you sent him |
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| 15:17.21 | stew | and the force-stuff options should pretty much never be used |
| 15:17.30 | jlaw | stew: it was just a hint |
| 15:17.44 | stew | it was a wild goose chace |
| 15:17.48 | stew | chase |
| 15:17.53 | jlaw | and btw i have a good excuse |
| 15:17.55 | jlaw | !brain |
| 15:17.55 | dpkg | something you don't have, jlaw. |
| 15:17.57 | jlaw | see? |
| 15:18.11 | cahoot | and geese are possibli infected these days |
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| 15:20.27 | panos | hello! do you know how i can add the non free repository for my debian testing? |
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| 15:21.02 | abrotman | !tell panos about non-free |
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| 15:21.52 | CrippsFX | on the website I see documentation for IA-64 processors, but nothing for AMD64 ... is AMD64 supported? |
| 15:22.09 | CrippsFX | (sorry ... documentation = release notes) |
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| 15:22.37 | stew | CrippsFX: unoffically for stable, /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 15:22.57 | CrippsFX | thanks stew. |
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| 15:24.02 | abrotman | stew: even though they have official security support ... |
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| 15:24.10 | smoosh | hi, how can i set a revision number when i make a .deb package? |
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| 15:25.12 | stew | smoosh: man dch |
| 15:25.16 | bizkit | is there a quick way to use a range of numbers within bash e.g. like wget http://domain.tld/picture{01,02,03}.png, but use anything like 01-03? (for bigger ranges) what is the syntax? |
| 15:25.43 | stew | bizkit: #bash |
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| 15:25.48 | petemc | bizkit: curl has support for that |
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| 15:25.55 | a1fa | ~nessus |
| 15:25.57 | apt | A free, open-sourced and easy-to-use security auditing tool. URL: http://www.nessus.org/ |
| 15:26.03 | a1fa | anybody know the unofficial nessus package? |
| 15:26.11 | a1fa | the stable is too stale |
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| 15:27.20 | david__ | coucou |
| 15:27.51 | abrotman | a1fa: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 15:29.06 | a1fa | abrotman : i got backports |
| 15:29.09 | a1fa | its not there |
| 15:29.20 | abrotman | did you check apt-get.org too ? (which the factoid mentions) |
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| 15:30.17 | a1fa | yes |
| 15:30.23 | a1fa | sure did |
| 15:30.24 | stew | a1fa: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 15:30.27 | a1fa | i downloaded the .deb package |
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| 15:30.34 | a1fa | from nessus.org |
| 15:30.37 | a1fa | i guess that will work |
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| 15:30.55 | abrotman | a1fa: alternately .. /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 15:31.21 | a1fa | marsovac : pedere :P |
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| 15:31.49 | a1fa | stale packages |
| 15:31.51 | a1fa | again |
| 15:31.57 | a1fa | they dont have a package for sparc anyway |
| 15:32.06 | abrotman | a1fa: in unstable? |
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| 15:32.14 | abrotman | i see it right there ... |
| 15:32.21 | abrotman | 2.2.7-3: alpha arm hppa i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc |
| 15:32.41 | a1fa | yup |
| 15:32.43 | a1fa | dude |
| 15:32.45 | a1fa | that is old |
| 15:32.50 | a1fa | 3.0.5 is out |
| 15:32.50 | stew | nessus is no longer free, right? |
| 15:33.03 | smoosh | stew: ok, thanx |
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| 15:33.33 | a1fa | 3.0.2 is out |
| 15:33.34 | a1fa | i lied |
| 15:33.35 | kspath | !tell a1fa about enter |
| 15:33.42 | lucox | hello boys, i'm missing the wpasupplicant init.d script, what should i do? |
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| 15:34.31 | apecat | does gnome has something like klipper? |
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| 15:35.23 | kspath | apecat: What does klipper do? You are assuming anyone that knows about gnome will know what klipper is. |
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| 15:35.32 | stew | a1fa: 2.2.7 is the latest available free version. if you want version 3 you can purchase it directly from nessus.org |
| 15:35.42 | apecat | oh, right, sry. it's a clipboard tool |
| 15:35.46 | lucox | nobody problems with WPA ?? |
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| 15:36.40 | apecat | ...keeps multiple cutouts in its memory and is visible in the system tray-like thingie in the wm |
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| 15:37.01 | kspath | apecat: clipboard? |
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| 15:37.58 | kspath | apecat: apt-cache search clipboard |
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| 15:38.36 | apecat | ok, a better decription; Klipper calls itself a "cut & paste history utility" |
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| 15:38.45 | apecat | kspath: good idea ;/ |
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| 15:39.05 | apecat | maybe i should have thought of it |
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| 15:40.20 | a1fa | stew : sucks |
| 15:41.00 | d0uglas | is there a way to restart all daemons without rebooting and doing it one at a time? |
| 15:41.17 | d0uglas | wanna keep my uptime |
| 15:41.41 | a1fa | thanks |
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| 15:41.45 | nicholas | d0uglas: "init 1" then "init 5"? no guarantees. |
| 15:41.53 | d0uglas | thanks |
| 15:41.58 | stew | why 5? |
| 15:42.08 | apecat | d0uglas: what's your uptime? :) |
| 15:42.10 | nicholas | oh, is 3 normal? |
| 15:42.15 | stew | nicholas: 2 |
| 15:42.19 | d0uglas | 97 days baby |
| 15:42.24 | nicholas | stew: ah. ok. |
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| 15:42.29 | apecat | heh kewl |
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| 15:43.16 | nicholas | d0uglas: use "init 2", not init 5. (it should really make a difference.) |
| 15:43.16 | apecat | d0uglas: ever tried? http://www.mreriksson.net/ ;P |
| 15:43.43 | nicholas | d0uglas: *shouldn't |
| 15:43.48 | apecat | sry, http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes |
| 15:43.59 | d0uglas | thanks nicholas |
| 15:44.18 | stew | d0uglas: are you running stable? |
| 15:44.26 | quitte | on this one machine the cpu is 100% loaded all the time - but i cannot find out what is taking the cpu. |
| 15:44.44 | d0uglas | apecat: cool site... dont think i'll hold any records though |
| 15:44.47 | nicholas | Could I ask for a DD to look into NMU'ing "xmlsec1"? It shouldn't take more than two changes to "control", but it'll need to be built in a pbuilder. See bugs 364382 and 335771. |
| 15:44.57 | d0uglas | quitte: run top |
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| 15:45.03 | gmh | hi, i am in Sarge with a customized kernel 2.6.15, when i compile it with make-kpkg --initrd, it make the initrd.img* file necesary, but when i use mkinitrd, the PC works, but when the prompt returns, mkinitrd not make any initrd* file , what is the error? |
| 15:45.48 | grendal_prime | anyone ever set up a proxyserver for im file transfers before? |
| 15:45.51 | b-_-d | anyone use nfs? how do i get locking? |
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| 15:45.56 | apecat | d0uglas: no, heh, but the fun thing is to check if your ranking has improved first thing every morning ;) |
| 15:46.07 | quitte | d0uglas: thats what i do. 97,7% cpu for us. but no process shows as using any cpu. |
| 15:46.24 | aidehua | Is there a 'nice' way of letting PAM authenticate people against /etc/shadow without the PAM invoking user being able to read /etc/shadow? |
| 15:46.25 | d0uglas | quitte: what's the load average |
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| 15:47.02 | quitte | d0uglas: 2.11,2.17,2.11 |
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| 15:47.57 | quitte | the process with the most cpu load is pppoe with 0,3% |
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| 15:48.37 | stew | quitte: it shows 97.7% cpu? or 97.7% iowait? |
| 15:48.46 | stew | quitte: is the cpu time user or system? |
| 15:49.15 | quitte | its between 97 and 100% cpu and it's user |
| 15:49.29 | valdyn | quitte: top is not accurate, it cant be really |
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| 15:49.34 | stew | gmh: for 2.6.15 you should use yaird or initramfs-tools |
| 15:50.05 | quitte | valdyn: there is something eating all cpu. cpu load should be 5% at most. |
| 15:50.30 | valdyn | quitte: oh i see |
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| 15:50.38 | valdyn | quitte: type dmesg, anything unusual? |
| 15:51.12 | quitte | no. but iptables filled it too much to be really useful |
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| 15:51.18 | Shadowcat | why are you using an initrd for a kernel to begin with? |
| 15:51.21 | b-_-d | dmesg never has any thing good to say :( |
| 15:51.22 | scyrma | since 2.6.16 came out, I can't use my external HD using firewire ... It was working fine with 2.6.15 (so I stuck with that kernel). Here's the message I have : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2601 ... can anylone have a look? |
| 15:51.34 | valdyn | quitte: nah i was thinking about 1 specific X bug, you would see that in dmesg |
| 15:51.43 | Jel_ | can someone help me with a quick question on Kopete... the people in the Kopete channel are zombies... |
| 15:51.50 | scyrma | I've been looking on google for a month, reading but reports and stuff, but kernel debugging is not my thing, really. |
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| 15:52.06 | quitte | valdyn: there is no x on that machine |
| 15:52.08 | gmh | stew, then, what is the last kernel version that works with initrd-tools?, (2.6.8 not support some devices for me) |
| 15:52.13 | Jel_ | the main issue is, i hid the menubar that has "file" and the other bits on it... the one in normal text, just above the "main" toolbar.... and now i can't get it back! |
| 15:52.23 | Jel_ | well, i don't know how... does any one here know ? |
| 15:52.36 | Shadowcat | gmh: again, why must you use an initrd? |
| 15:52.38 | stew | gmh: 2.6.14? what version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:53.12 | gmh | Shadda, im trying with bootplash |
| 15:53.26 | gmh | Shadowcat, , im trying with bootplash |
| 15:53.42 | gmh | stew, Sarge |
| 15:53.46 | Shadowcat | gmh: don't you think we should try getting your hardware working before dealing with your bootsplash? |
| 15:54.03 | Shadowcat | you can live without eyecandy |
| 15:54.23 | gmh | Shadowcat, ok |
| 15:54.49 | b-_-d | is debain network stupid? people are complaining about apt over NFS but google shoes no fix |
| 15:55.06 | stew | gmh: i'd recommend you run a backported 2.6.16 kernel from backports.org (/msg dpkg backports) and use splashy which is userspace therefore and doesn't require a kernel patch (/msg dpkg splashy) |
| 15:55.08 | valdyn | !confuse b-_-d |
| 15:55.08 | dpkg | No, those was our badger tomorrow, b-_-d? shirts of the people's republic of liechtenstein with extra ham |
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| 15:55.41 | valdyn | b-_-d: apt over nfs is a pointless idea, as nfs is transparent |
| 15:55.45 | babilen | hi all! how can i disable encryption in ssh for a set of hosts? |
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| 15:55.54 | babilen | or force ssh to use rsh for a set of hosts? |
| 15:56.00 | Shadowcat | disable encryption? |
| 15:56.02 | Shadowcat | why? |
| 15:56.13 | babilen | Shadowcat: performance.. |
| 15:56.19 | b-_-d | they all get same thing "Not using locking for nfs mounted lock file" |
| 15:56.26 | b-_-d | all the same issue |
| 15:56.36 | b-_-d | i did my reserch |
| 15:56.37 | grendal_prime | is it ok to remove all the bizzaro user accounts that seem to get added to the samba users file? |
| 15:56.47 | stew | babilen: can you not just call rsh directly? |
| 15:56.59 | grendal_prime | liek the Debian-exim user |
| 15:57.03 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 15:57.09 | gmh | stew, ok, thanks |
| 15:57.16 | babilen | stew: i could, but users complain about yet another program... |
| 15:57.24 | b-_-d | valdyn http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/02/msg00698.html |
| 15:57.31 | b-_-d | what is that than? |
| 15:57.39 | Shadowcat | I don't see how ssh could limit performance |
| 15:57.40 | b-_-d | many say the same thing |
| 15:57.42 | babilen | stew: that's why i would like to define a list of hosts, which are contacted without encryption or rsh.. |
| 15:57.42 | grendal_prime | i guess what im asking is are there any of these system user accounts that need to havea access to samba? |
| 15:57.46 | Shadowcat | unless you happen to be sshing on dialup |
| 15:57.48 | b-_-d | all about debian |
| 15:58.00 | Shadowcat | b-_-d: great research, LOOK at the date |
| 15:58.03 | b-_-d | fount 16 links all the same |
| 15:58.04 | stew | Shadowcat: on dialup it wouldn't limit performance, on gigabit it likely could |
| 15:58.14 | Shadowcat | stew: huh? |
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| 15:58.19 | babilen | Shadowcat: it's encrypting everything, how could that not limit performance? |
| 15:58.23 | semboy | hello what command delete all the stuff from my computer -i mean i want to clean linux and start from the start |
| 15:58.25 | Shadowcat | b-_-d: that's from several years ago |
| 15:58.34 | b-_-d | Shadowcat i have the same message so bug was not fixed |
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| 15:58.42 | grendal_prime | machiens that dont have the ability to ssh in..are a total pain in the ass. |
| 15:58.43 | stew | Shadowcat: my older cpus cannot encrypt/decrypt fast enough to flood a faster network that easily could encrypt fast enough to keep up with dialup |
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| 15:58.46 | babilen | stew: setup is a cluster and i want to define the worker nodes as rsh-enabled.. |
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| 15:58.51 | Shadowcat | b-_-d: if the bug wasn't fixed there'd be a lot more than just you with that problem |
| 15:58.52 | b-_-d | so a bug years old |
| 15:59.00 | stew | babilen: you'll have to script it yourself |
| 15:59.00 | quitte | ok. it was slapd. i have no idea why slapd didnt show up in top,though |
| 15:59.03 | grendal_prime | if dont have ssh im cut off from my networks....thats the only limitation i have ever found of ssh..not having it enough |
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| 15:59.07 | Shadowcat | stew: gotcha |
| 15:59.10 | babilen | and all others as encrypted with usual ssh security.. |
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| 15:59.28 | babilen | stew: seriously? |
| 16:00.00 | b-_-d | Shadowcat not that many mount the root system over nfs just not common |
| 16:00.01 | valdyn | b-_-d: you should probably use approx or apt-proxy to share debs |
| 16:00.18 | treestone | babilen: I don't think you can disable encryption in newer ssh'en but you could select a faster algorithm. E.g. '-c blowfish' |
| 16:00.54 | grendal_prime | valdyn, how are you at working out proxy issues? i need to set up a file transfer proxy so my jabber users can file transfer to the outside users. |
| 16:00.55 | babilen | treestone: ok, than it will be a full blown rsh setup... with all the .rhosts bullshit.. |
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| 16:01.09 | stew | Shadowcat: becuase of this i actually temporarily setup a machine to allow passwordless rsh as root, which felt rather dirty, but made for a quicker one time copy from one large raid to another |
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| 16:01.23 | valdyn | grendal_prime: i know nothing about jabber |
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| 16:01.31 | Shadowcat | stew: heh fun fun |
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| 16:01.40 | welp | hey, when i try to send mail to my server with courier, i get a SMTP 550 error, which config file do i need to change to fix this? i've tried google, and i've set "* allow,RELAYCLIENT" in /etc/courier/smtpaccess/default |
| 16:01.46 | grendal_prime | ya seems not many people do. |
| 16:01.49 | grendal_prime | its werid. |
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| 16:03.15 | treestone | babilen: Are you using ssh for file transfer? Because then you could as well use something like tftp or whatever, instead of rsh. If it's for shell login the encryption really shouldn't impact performance, not even for slow CPUs (for file transfer it does, even for half-good CPUs) |
| 16:03.44 | stew | welp: * allow,RELAYCLIENT would make you an open relay, that is not what you want to do. only allow certain ips to relay, then run "makesmtpaccess". |
| 16:04.10 | welp | stew, i wanna make it so that anyone can email me though? |
| 16:04.34 | valdyn | babilen: ssh lets your choose with cipher, there's some using alot cpu, some using less |
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| 16:05.00 | valdyn | babilen: i dont know if there's a null cipher but even one using less cpu could be fine for you |
| 16:05.04 | arczibold | How to register? |
| 16:05.22 | valdyn | arczibold: /msg nickserver help |
| 16:05.24 | valdyn | arczibold: /msg nickserv help |
| 16:05.29 | arczibold | Thanks |
| 16:05.48 | babilen | treestone: filoetransfer is realized with tftp... |
| 16:05.54 | stew | welp: that file is for relaying out, not accepting mail in. you probalby just need to edit /etc/courier/hosteddomains and create a file in esmtpacceptmailfor.dir, then run makeacceptmailfor and makehosteddomains |
| 16:06.16 | jMCg | I'm having a little bit of a struggle getting rid of websvn |
| 16:06.23 | welp | stew, ok, brb, lemme take a lookee see :D |
| 16:06.25 | babilen | i think i'll try a cipher which is going easy on the cpu and run a few benchmarks and will resort to rsh if i have no other choice.. |
| 16:06.28 | jMCg | I'll paste what's happening, maybe someone can help. |
| 16:06.54 | treestone | babilen: Make sure you don't use compression at the same time as well... |
| 16:07.21 | welp | stew, /etc/courier/hosteddomains is a dir? |
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| 16:08.24 | stew | welp: no, a file. man makehosteddomains ; man makeacceptmailfor |
| 16:08.40 | jMCg | http://pastebin.ca/58042 <<< This is the dpkg -P websvn being a bitch. |
| 16:09.43 | jMCg | I don't even know how to hack the postremoval script because I don't know where it is |
| 16:10.18 | stew | jMCg: add "set -x" to the postrm script (in /var/lib/dpkg/info) and maybe also to the apache2 init script |
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| 16:10.44 | welp | stew, okies, (it can be a file OR dir ;)) |
| 16:10.49 | jMCg | stew, it's not.. apache restarts perfectly fine. |
| 16:11.19 | welp | stew, so, basically, i just put my domain name in there? |
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| 16:11.37 | stew | welp: yes |
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| 16:11.47 | welp | stew, ok, thanks |
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| 16:13.38 | CAiRO | i have a file where all lines end with ^M (i guess thats a windows/dos line break), how do i get rid of them? |
| 16:13.51 | stew | CAiRO: /msg dpkg dos2unix |
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| 16:14.02 | el_mexicano | hi there |
| 16:14.04 | welp | stew, do i just call the file in esmtpacceptmailfor.dir whatever i want? |
| 16:14.37 | stew | welp: i believe so. i have always named it the same as the domain name to make it easy to later remove a single domain |
| 16:14.54 | welp | stew, ok, i'll let you know how it works in a sec |
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| 16:16.15 | jMCg | stew, http://web.esotericsystems.at/websvn.txt |
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| 16:16.24 | cyzie | what is the command to extract a particular file from tar? |
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| 16:17.30 | stew | jMCg: at which point do you hit ctrl-c? |
| 16:17.42 | stew | jMCg: ans what version of websvn is this? |
| 16:17.51 | mond00 | E: Couldn't find package openssh-server (sources.list has "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main" - isn't that all i'd need to install packages?) side note: how do i search for a particular package, like perhaps "openssh-server" isn't it's name? though i believe it is |
| 16:18.12 | stew | mond00: in stable its just "ssh" |
| 16:18.17 | welp | stew, for my smtpaccess/default, would: "192.168 allow,RELAYCLIENT" be ok for accepting IPs from my internel network? (all 192.168.x.x) |
| 16:18.32 | jMCg | stew, after exit 0 |
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| 16:18.53 | jMCg | stew, if you have any hints for me, just write them.. I'll be back in 15 minutes. |
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| 16:19.31 | welp | mond00, apt-cache search <pkg-name> |
| 16:19.32 | mond00 | stew, how would i have known? looking for like apt-get search foo |
| 16:19.38 | mond00 | ahh thanks welp! :D |
| 16:19.46 | welp | mond00, np |
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| 16:19.49 | norbert | hi, under testing with alsa, is there any way to boost the out volume beyond the alsamixergui's max values? |
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| 16:22.16 | stew | mond00: "apt-cache search ssh server" should have found that, or "apt-file search sshd" |
| 16:22.22 | stew | welp: yes, then makesmtpaccess |
| 16:22.28 | welp | staanii, ok, thanks |
| 16:22.37 | stew | norbert: no |
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| 16:22.59 | stew | welp: i can never remember if you have to restart courier after editing those files |
| 16:23.16 | welp | you don't |
| 16:23.20 | welp | it's in the man page |
| 16:23.25 | norbert | stew: okay - thanks |
| 16:23.46 | drasko | hi all... I keep getting these messages: Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:23.46 | drasko | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.46 | drasko | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.46 | drasko | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 16:24.45 | nkuttler | drasko: /msg dpkg paster |
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| 16:25.20 | lordnazgul | is there a command that tells me what chipset I am currently using (for configuring kernel)? |
| 16:25.22 | nkuttler | drasko: and find the relevant error |
| 16:25.39 | jelly-ho | lordnazgul: lspci? |
| 16:25.41 | stew | lordnazgul: chipset of what? |
| 16:25.47 | stew | lordnazgul: cpu? |
| 16:25.48 | lordnazgul | stew sorry ide |
| 16:25.56 | stew | lordnazgul: thn yeah, lspci |
| 16:26.01 | lordnazgul | ok thx |
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| 16:26.27 | welp | stew: http://debain.pastebin.com/731373 |
| 16:26.56 | drasko | hi all. Can someone help me with this problem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
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| 16:27.12 | stew | welp: anything helpful in /var/log/mail.log? |
| 16:27.18 | drasko | sorry, |
| 16:27.20 | drasko | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2602 |
| 16:27.26 | jelly-ho | It would be nice if there was a utility which for a given pci.id said "this works with CONFIG_FOO" or "module snd-thingy". |
| 16:27.39 | stew | !which module for 0101 |
| 16:27.39 | dpkg | to find which modules supports 0101, run this command: grep `lspci -n |awk '/0101/{sub(":",".*",$3);print $3}'` /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap |
| 16:28.02 | stew | !which module for ide is ask me about <which module for 0101> |
| 16:28.02 | dpkg | to find which modules supports ide is ask me about <which module for 0101>, run this command: grep `lspci -n |awk '/ide is ask me about <which module for 0101>/{sub(":",".*",$3);print $3}'` /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap |
| 16:28.05 | stew | hrm |
| 16:28.21 | drasko | does anyone have any idea: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2602 |
| 16:28.24 | AzianFlu | drasko, what seems to be the trouble? |
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| 16:28.46 | drasko | AzianFlu, please, check out the pasted, you'll see |
| 16:28.49 | jelly-ho | stew: what happens if driver is compiled in? |
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| 16:29.09 | nkuttler | drasko: man dpkg, search for overwrite |
| 16:29.50 | stew | jelly-ho: probably does nothing. i know that doesn't tell you about which CONFIG you need, but at lease tells you the "module snd-thingy" part for modular kernels |
| 16:30.07 | welp | stew, http://debain.pastebin.com/731377 - i'm not sure what i'm supposed to be looking for... |
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| 16:30.12 | stew | jelly-ho: provided that you know that 0101 is ide and 0400 is snd and such (which you can figure out by comparing lspci with lspci -n) |
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| 16:30.20 | jtoy | anyone here use rdesktop, do you know how to switch out to linux if you are using rdesktop in full screen mode? |
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| 16:30.58 | stew | !which ide module is ask me about <which module for 0101> |
| 16:30.58 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 16:31.09 | stew | !which sound module is ask me about <which module for 0400> |
| 16:31.09 | dpkg | ...but which sound module is already something else... |
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| 16:31.52 | MMajex | #debian |
| 16:32.21 | jelly-ho | stew: meh, my sound card is 0403. Thankfully there's google. |
| 16:32.28 | stew | oh hmm |
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| 16:32.46 | jelly-ho | 0000:00:1b.0 0403: 8086:2668 (rev 03) |
| 16:32.52 | MMajex | Hello , does all the printer work in debian linux or not ? |
| 16:32.59 | svk_ | Hi, I'm getting a ":-( write failed: invalid argument" when trying to write a DVD-R with growisofs or k3b, presumably from mkisofs. I've been able to write DVDs before from these machine, is this a known problem? Anything I can do to get a more informative error message? |
| 16:33.01 | stew | jelly-ho: and what is the line from lspci without the -n? |
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| 16:33.13 | drasko | nkuttler, WOW! THANKS! But why would not it work automatically? I had to say --force-overwrite? |
| 16:33.16 | roadfish | what app will join two mp3 files? |
| 16:33.26 | stew | drasko: you should check the bts, /msg dpkg bts |
| 16:33.32 | jelly-ho | stew: and I already know it's snd-hda-intel, it works. ;-) |
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| 16:33.37 | jelly-ho | 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) |
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| 16:34.02 | jelly-ho | note that lspci from etch doesn't know about 0403. |
| 16:34.59 | Spliffster | hi room. i have instaleld and then removed some packages. i guess there are dependent libraries, etc. still on my system which are not needed anymore. is there a utility to find unused depedent packages for removal ? |
| 16:35.26 | dvs | Spliffster: deborphan |
| 16:35.31 | stew | welp: that log doesn't contain anything about welp.co.uk which makes me think that the DSN must have come from another machine |
| 16:35.34 | jazbo2185 | If I'm not seeing the wireless device on my laptop using `lcpci`, what else should I try? |
| 16:35.39 | el_mexicano | someone can help me with my scsi raid controller? |
| 16:35.39 | Spliffster | dvs, ty will have a look |
| 16:35.52 | stew | !which sound module is also <which module for 0403> |
| 16:35.52 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 16:35.53 | SlammerXP | el_mexicano: sure. mail it to me and i'll take a look |
| 16:35.54 | jazbo2185 | `lspci` I mean |
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| 16:36.34 | stew | jazbo2185: is it a laptop a desktop? could it be connected via usb? (some internal laptop wireless cards may be usb) |
| 16:36.41 | Spliffster | dvs, is "deborphan" aa utility or a parameter to a specific comand like apt/dpkg* ? |
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| 16:37.07 | jazbo2185 | stew, laptop. What do I do to find it if its usb? |
| 16:37.08 | dvs | Spliffster: it's a package and a command line utility |
| 16:37.09 | welp | stew, DSN? wassat? |
| 16:37.14 | jazbo2185 | brb |
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| 16:37.34 | jazbo2185 | back |
| 16:37.36 | stew | welp: "delivery status notification", aka bounce message |
| 16:37.37 | Spliffster | dvs, ty. |
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| 16:37.42 | stew | jazbo2185: lsusb |
| 16:37.46 | welp | oh |
| 16:38.16 | welp | stew, From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com> |
| 16:38.39 | welp | stew, i was trying to send an email to my mail server from gmail |
| 16:38.59 | svk_ | Anyone have any hints for my ":-( write failed: Invalid argument" DVD-R writing error message? If not, is there a more appropriate channel for support related to growisofs/mkisofs or DVD burning generally? |
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| 16:39.56 | stew | welp: 550 <welp@welp.co.uk>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table |
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| 16:40.23 | stew | welp: that's what i get from a.mx.welp.co.uk. is the machine that you are working on a.mx.welp.co.uk? |
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| 16:40.53 | jazbo2185 | stew ty |
| 16:40.59 | welp | stew, it's supposed to be 01welp.co.uk |
| 16:41.08 | stew | welp: that's not what is listed in the DNS for that domain |
| 16:41.20 | stew | welp.co.uk. 86271 IN MX 0 a.mx.welp.co.uk. |
| 16:41.23 | jMCg | re |
| 16:41.44 | welp | stew, someone else must own that domain - mine is 01welp.co.uk |
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| 16:42.12 | stew | ooops, missed that |
| 16:42.18 | welp | stew, ;) |
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| 16:42.30 | stew | telnet: could not resolve 82.70.75.246.01welp.co.uk/smtp: Name or service not known |
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| 16:42.59 | welp | bleh, what port is smtp supposed to be? |
| 16:43.05 | Le_Vert | 25 |
| 16:43.08 | Le_Vert | tcp |
| 16:43.09 | blondie | 25 usually |
| 16:43.09 | semboy | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.11 | stew | welp: getent services smtp |
| 16:43.25 | welp | stew, port 25, brb |
| 16:43.27 | el_mexicano | if someone want to help me, here is my error decription: http://paste.uni.cc/9105 |
| 16:43.41 | kspath | semboy: wrong channel |
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| 16:44.50 | welp | stew, aah, i had the port forwarding setup wrong on my router |
| 16:45.05 | blondie | welp: btw zen will change your rdns if you ask |
| 16:45.14 | semboy | kspath |
| 16:45.17 | semboy | i am on linux |
| 16:45.20 | welp | blondie, rdns? |
| 16:45.27 | semboy | and i am trying to gett wine to work |
| 16:45.27 | welp | blondie, wassat? |
| 16:45.34 | blondie | welp: so your IP resolves to your own hostname instead of the zen one |
| 16:45.41 | welp | blondie, i might ask... |
| 16:45.44 | blondie | as well as your hostname resolving to your IP |
| 16:45.49 | welp | blondie, it's my dad's account though ;) |
| 16:45.52 | blondie | ah |
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| 16:46.21 | kspath | !tell semboy about wine |
| 16:46.33 | sin | does debian have dos2unix/unix2dos ? |
| 16:46.41 | HolyGoat | Has anyone ever gotten alsa to work with kernel 2.6.12 or greater? |
| 16:46.41 | stew | sin: /msg dpkg dos2unix |
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| 16:47.06 | dvs | !ask |
| 16:47.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 16:47.07 | stew | HolyGoat: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
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| 16:47.28 | welp | stew, try now |
| 16:47.50 | stew | telnet: could not resolve 82.70.75.246.01welp.co.uk/smtp: Name or service not known |
| 16:48.17 | blondie | umm |
| 16:48.22 | blondie | that problem has nothing to do with smtp |
| 16:48.33 | stew | welp: you have a dns problem with 01welp.co.uk. it looks like you forget a ., like you defined your mx to be "82.70.75.246" instead of "82.70.75.246." |
| 16:48.34 | blondie | Host 82.70.75.246.01welp.co.uk not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 16:48.45 | HolyGoat | stew: Yeah but the problem isn't really installing it, I have the packages listed in the bot response, it's just that when I try to load sound modules I get a lot of messages like "snd_ice1712: Unknown Symbol snd_device_new" (also in dmesg upon restart) |
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| 16:49.16 | stew | HolyGoat: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 16:49.36 | HolyGoat | stew: 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 16:49.58 | NthDegree | just curious, is the debian installer anything like the expert mode ubuntu installer? |
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| 16:50.10 | valdyn | HolyGoat: those alsa modules came with that kernel or did you compile them? |
| 16:50.11 | kspath | NthDegree: try it. |
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| 16:50.17 | stew | NthDegree: the ubuntu installer uses the debian-installer, so yes |
| 16:50.23 | HolyGoat | I read a few things in online archives about alsa not being compatible with newer 2.6 kernels, but I can't imagine that. |
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| 16:50.39 | HolyGoat | valdyn: I compiled them, but the source came from the debian repository |
| 16:50.47 | welp_ | stew, any better? |
| 16:50.51 | HolyGoat | valdyn: I used module-assistant to fetch and compile them. |
| 16:50.55 | valdyn | HolyGoat: alright, remove that package |
| 16:51.02 | HolyGoat | valdyn: Which package? |
| 16:51.05 | NthDegree | yea but I get to choose what packages etc. I can put on right? |
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| 16:51.17 | valdyn | HolyGoat: its your fault that you compiled those modules wrongly, but fortunately you do not even need those |
| 16:51.26 | valdyn | HolyGoat: the alsa-modules-fo |
| 16:51.26 | kspath | NthDegree: try the installer |
| 16:51.29 | valdyn | HolyGoat: the alsa-modules-foo |
| 16:52.07 | valdyn | HolyGoat: alsa is PART of 2.6 kernels, no need to compile external modules ( though its possible ) |
| 16:52.19 | blondie | welp: your dns is wrong |
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| 16:52.35 | welp | blondie, why do you say that? |
| 16:52.35 | NthDegree | will do kspath :) i'm downloading the amd64 cd images as we speak |
| 16:52.38 | HolyGoat | valdyn: But without alsa, `insmod snd_ice1712` didn't work either |
| 16:52.40 | welp | blondie, 01welp.co.uk? |
| 16:52.48 | valdyn | !insmod |
| 16:52.48 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 16:52.54 | blondie | welp: because the hostname you're trying to use doesn't resolve to anything |
| 16:53.03 | valdyn | HolyGoat: never use insmod |
| 16:53.22 | welp | blondie, y'what?! one sec |
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| 16:53.37 | stew | welp: http://dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=01welp.co.uk |
| 16:53.41 | welp | PING 01welp.co.uk (82.70.75.246) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 16:53.41 | welp | 64 bytes from 82-70-75-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (82.70.75.246): icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.474 ms |
| 16:53.53 | valdyn | HolyGoat: your error may already be fixed once you use modprobe |
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| 16:53.56 | blondie | welp: you had lots of numbers in front before |
| 16:54.01 | stew | HolyGoat: what version of debian are you running? |
| 16:54.03 | HolyGoat | valdyn: Same with modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_ice1712 not found |
| 16:54.11 | HolyGoat | stew: unstable |
| 16:54.35 | valdyn | !find snd-ice1712.ko |
| 16:54.35 | HolyGoat | When I do lsmod, I don't see the sound modules either. |
| 16:54.37 | stew | HolyGoat: you should try an up to date kernel, /msg dpkg sid upgrade kernel |
| 16:54.37 | welp | blondie, what? :/ |
| 16:54.39 | blondie | welp: maybe my mistake ;) but yes that works |
| 16:54.48 | blondie | 220 Rack1 ESMTP |
| 16:54.49 | welp | blondie, heh |
| 16:54.56 | HolyGoat | stew: I can try.. |
| 16:55.07 | welp | blondie, that's it - that's one of my rack servers |
| 16:55.13 | blondie | welp: I was going on: |
| 16:55.14 | blondie | 17:47:51 < stew> telnet: could not resolve 82.70.75.246.01welp.co.uk/smtp: Name or service not known |
| 16:55.22 | blondie | 82.70.75.246.01welp.co.uk |
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| 16:55.32 | jelly-ho | welp, stew: don't MX records have to point to A record? |
| 16:55.53 | svk_ | Anyone; is there a way around ":-( write failed: invalid argument" from mkisofs(or possibly growisofs) when burning DVD-Rs? Or a more appropriate channel to ask in, a way to get a more informative error message from growisofs? Running 2.4.26-1-386, dvd+rw-tools 6.1-2 |
| 16:55.58 | HolyGoat | stew: And when I install a more up to date kernel, alsa is supposed to be in it? |
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| 16:56.07 | stew | HolyGoat: without a doubt |
| 16:56.11 | valdyn | HolyGoat: any 2.6 kernel does already contain alsa |
| 16:56.13 | welp | jelly, i dunno...? |
| 16:56.23 | valdyn | HolyGoat: rather, any 2.6 debian kernel |
| 16:56.23 | HolyGoat | stew, valdyn: Thanks a lot. |
| 16:56.25 | googler | simple question: can i install xgl/compiz on ATI RAGE PRO 128 ? |
| 16:56.28 | stew | jelly-ho: i think it is technically supposed to be, but generally works anyway |
| 16:56.32 | HolyGoat | valdyn: Any idea how come this one doesn't? |
| 16:56.36 | stew | !debwiki googler Xgl |
| 16:56.37 | dpkg | googler: http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl |
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| 16:57.04 | valdyn | HolyGoat: no idea, i just searched an old kernel and that module exists already in 2.6.8 |
| 16:57.13 | googler | thanx i will check it out |
| 16:57.35 | jelly-ho | welp: I'd try putting 82-70-75-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk. as the MX instead of the ip. |
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| 16:57.59 | stew | googler: however, i think you'll find that you need at least an x300 (read: much newer) card in order to use xgl |
| 16:58.04 | welp | jelly-ho, what about 01wel.co.uk? |
| 16:58.13 | valdyn | HolyGoat: maybe your specific 2.6.12 kernel was broken, i dont know, that kernel is obsolete anyway in debian |
| 16:58.30 | welp | jelly-ho, that points to my IP |
| 16:58.40 | jelly-ho | welp: that's an A record. |
| 16:58.49 | stew | welp: he is right, you really should point your mx at an a record |
| 16:58.59 | stew | welp: 01wel.co.uk doesn't exist |
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| 16:59.14 | welp | stew, typo... 01welp.co.uk |
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| 16:59.46 | sandman | Does make-kpkg build a kernel for i386 by defualt, or does it depend upon what I set in make config? |
| 16:59.56 | welp | ok, i've changed my mx record |
| 17:00.00 | valdyn | sandman: depends on your config |
| 17:00.34 | welp | stew, jelly-ho: now i need to wait for the dns changes to propagate the net or whatever, right? |
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| 17:01.25 | jelly-ho | welp: this is an A record, a mapping of a symbolic to numeric address: 01welp.co.uk has address 82.70.75.246 , this is what I see as your preferred MX record: 01welp.co.uk mail is handled by 1 82.70.75.246.01welp.co.uk... I'd change the MX to point to "82-70-75-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk." instead of the IP address. |
| 17:01.42 | covux | hi. when i try to install gnome apt complains about rhythmbox which complains about missing libsexy2. can anyone confirm that? |
| 17:01.55 | valdyn | covux: sure |
| 17:02.25 | covux | valdyn: is there a fix for that? |
| 17:02.29 | stew | covux: what version of debian? |
| 17:02.30 | HolyGoat | valdyn: Okay. A small other question. What kernel is most optimized for AMD sempron processors? |
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| 17:02.41 | covux | stew: unstable |
| 17:02.45 | valdyn | HolyGoat: -k7 i guess |
| 17:02.47 | stew | covux: /msg dpkg bts |
| 17:02.56 | sandman | Is gcc4 faster than gcc3? |
| 17:03.01 | valdyn | sandman: no |
| 17:03.05 | stew | !sempron |
| 17:03.05 | dpkg | i heard sempron is AMD's new (2004) budget line of 32-bit processors, to replace the Duron line. Sempron 2800+ and lower are socket A; 3100+ and higher are socket 754. See <k7>. a Thoroughbred core Athlon XP (k7) by a flashy name |
| 17:03.10 | jelly-ho | welp: it seems you added another MX, now I seed "1 01welp.co.uk." AND "3 82.70.75.246.01welp.co.uk." (and the ISP's priority 10 and 20 ones) |
| 17:03.20 | marco13185 | !P4 |
| 17:03.28 | marco13185 | !Pentium4 |
| 17:03.35 | jelly-ho | welp: s/seed/see/ |
| 17:03.35 | marco13185 | !Pentium 4 |
| 17:03.43 | HolyGoat | Thanks again stew && valdyn |
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| 17:04.29 | welp | jelly-ho, check again |
| 17:04.51 | valdyn | covux: install the remaining gnome packages individually, wait for rhythmbox to be fixed.. |
| 17:05.09 | jelly-ho | welp: you forgot the tailing dot again. Must have an extra . at the end of the hostname. |
| 17:05.34 | covux | valdyn: is there a gnome basic metapackage like kde-basic? |
| 17:05.49 | valdyn | covux: gnome-core maybe |
| 17:05.50 | welp | jelly-ho, there we go :P |
| 17:05.56 | stew | covux: /msg dpkg install gnome |
| 17:06.10 | jelly-ho | welp: looks ok now. |
| 17:06.12 | covux | stew, valdyn: thanks |
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| 17:06.31 | welp | jelly-ho, ok... now i've forgotten what i wanna do... |
| 17:06.32 | jelly-ho | welp: do you have a working smtp server, can I send you mail? |
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| 17:06.51 | HolyGoat | let's boot with the new kernel.. :) |
| 17:06.52 | welp | jelly-ho, you can try - it SHOULD be working :/ |
| 17:07.05 | jelly-ho | welp: what login, postmaster? |
| 17:07.34 | welp | jelly-ho, welp |
| 17:07.42 | seb- | if we agreed with rms that linux should be gnu/linux then we must also agree we should really call it GNU/BSD/X/Linux |
| 17:07.44 | welp | jelly-ho, welp@01welp.co.uk |
| 17:08.12 | valdyn | seb-: X isnt part of the OS |
| 17:08.32 | seb- | valdyn: either is emacs, gdb and gcc |
| 17:08.33 | jelly-ho | welp: there goes nothing... should be a minute until is passes thru my ISP's servers. |
| 17:08.42 | Zugschlus | grendal_prime: what's the problem with Debian-exim? |
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| 17:09.41 | welp | jelly-ho, croatia 'eh? :P |
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| 17:11.09 | jelly-ho | welp: good. I suppose there is a way to put a numeric ip in there too, this might break if your ISP ever changes its naming scheme for dsl lines. |
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| 17:11.50 | welp | jelly-ho, it doesn't seem to be working from gmail though? i can't send myself an email from my gmail account :/ |
| 17:11.53 | blondie | jelly-ho: that's why (well possibly a reason) I suggested changing the rdns |
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| 17:12.09 | blondie | welp: maybe the mx changes haven't propagated yet |
| 17:12.12 | dvs | HolyGoat: you're back? |
| 17:12.23 | welp | blondie, i suppose |
| 17:12.33 | Niki | Hi there, can someone point me towards the right way to execute a command after every xserver-start, please? |
| 17:12.34 | HolyGoat | dvs: Yes, any reason in particular you're asking this? :) |
| 17:12.36 | valdyn | seb-: that is right, but has nothing to do with naming the thing |
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| 17:12.38 | valdyn | seb-: contents of /bin and /sbin should hit it better |
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| 17:12.38 | erudified | How do I change my gtk2 fonts for a user? |
| 17:12.38 | erudified | without installing gnome et al? |
| 17:12.38 | valdyn | seb-: ( and i dont actually know who those are all from or under which license they are ) |
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| 17:12.38 | valdyn | erudified: vi ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
| 17:12.38 | valdyn | erudified: or ~/.gtkrc-2.0* |
| 17:12.38 | mne | Hi guys. I want to do double sided printing. Unfortunately neither the printer nor CUPS seems to be able to do that. (cups has an option for souble sided printing, but it doesn't work for me). Is there a way to print (a document like a PDF) one time only the odd pages and the next time only the even pages |
| 17:12.39 | valdyn | erudified: or gtk-theme-switch |
| 17:12.40 | erudified | valdyn, thanks! |
| 17:12.41 | blondie | though I doubt zen would change the naming scheme for exising customers |
| 17:12.46 | welp | blondie, are you on zen? how did you get them to change it? did you email them or something? |
| 17:13.09 | valdyn | mne: mpage can do that |
| 17:13.17 | blondie | yes (though not for irc); I emailed support@zen.co.uk and asked them |
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| 17:16.23 | HolyGoat | I'm now on kernel 2.6.16. snd_ice1712 seems to be loaded, but I have no sound output yet. I'm going to have to do some research, probably some mixer or something. |
| 17:16.24 | blondie | ffs |
| 17:16.27 | dvs | HolyGoat: You said you were getting a new kernel. That is sometimes risky |
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| 17:17.01 | welp | :| |
| 17:17.01 | jelly-ho | effin netsplits |
| 17:17.02 | blondie | welp: "please can you change the reverse DNS for xx.xx.xx.xx to hostname" |
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| 17:17.02 | welp | that was some mega netsplit |
| 17:17.02 | HolyGoat | dvs: Ah, yes, but not in this case fortunately :) |
| 17:17.02 | dvs | HolyGoat: apt-get install alsa-utils; |
| 17:17.03 | mne | grr ... |
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| 17:17.04 | erudified | wow |
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| 17:17.05 | erudified | gtk-theme-select doesn't let you select fonts |
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| 17:17.06 | erudified | it's 2006, and you can't just select your fonts without installing gnome... amazing |
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| 17:17.06 | mne | whoever gave me the tip with mpage, thank you, I'll try it |
| 17:17.06 | cr3 | how can I detect if a file uses DOS CRLF from the command line? |
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| 17:17.07 | valdyn | erudified: i said 'gtk-theme-switch' |
| 17:17.08 | welp | blondie, jelly-ho, thanks for everything |
| 17:17.08 | blondie | cr3: regex grep for \r\n |
| 17:17.08 | HolyGoat | dvs: Anything to do after installing alsa-utils? |
| 17:17.08 | blondie | or is it \n\ar |
| 17:17.08 | blondie | -a |
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| 17:17.09 | HolyGoat | dvs: Maybe I should run alsaconf? |
| 17:17.09 | blondie | erm, \r\n :) |
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| 17:17.09 | blondie | welp: np |
| 17:17.09 | dvs | HolyGoat: probably alsamixer to unmute the channels |
| 17:17.09 | jelly-ho | cr3: "file foo.txt" detects it. |
| 17:17.09 | vin` | dpkg: exim4gmail is follow this step-by-step guide to use gmail for smtp. http://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 |
| 17:17.09 | dpkg | okay, vin` |
| 17:17.10 | dvs | HolyGoat: if you know what sound modules you need, then alsaconf isn't really necessary. |
| 17:17.10 | gary_ | alsaconf |
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| 17:17.10 | jelly-ho | cr3: it says "CRLF line delimiters" or something like that. |
| 17:17.10 | blondie | ah yes |
| 17:17.13 | valdyn | cr3: 'file dos.txt' |
| 17:17.18 | stew | "echo -n "\r\n" | file -" :) |
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| 17:18.16 | HolyGoat | dvs: Hmm unmuting has no effect so far. |
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| 17:18.31 | jelly-ho | eek |
| 17:18.42 | dvs | HolyGoat: What did you unmute? |
| 17:18.56 | blondie | stew: /dev/stdin: ASCII text, with no line terminators :) |
| 17:19.07 | chron1c | word up... |
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| 17:19.16 | nkuttler | stew: -e |
| 17:19.18 | blondie | winword? |
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| 17:19.35 | stew | HolyGoat: you'll have to unmute both pcm and master, and raising the volume and unmuting are two different things, you need to do both |
| 17:19.36 | jelly-ho | "ssh server sudo ls" ... displays password after sudo's Password: prompt. |
| 17:19.39 | stew | huh |
| 17:19.42 | HolyGoat | dvs: the master |
| 17:19.47 | HolyGoat | stew: Aha. Thanks. |
| 17:20.00 | HolyGoat | stew: yes I did raise the volume. Let me check pcm. |
| 17:20.06 | stew | HolyGoat: m for toggling mute |
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| 17:21.43 | HolyGoat | stew: PCM and Master are both unmuted and the volumes are raised now, but I still hear no signal. |
| 17:21.49 | Spliffster | 1 ... 2 ... 3 ..... pfff ... pfff .... test |
| 17:22.10 | stew | HolyGoat: how are you testing? |
| 17:22.17 | guevolt | Hi. How i change only the directories permissions ? I need do it recursively. Any idea ? |
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| 17:22.24 | HolyGoat | stew: Playing music from xmms and totem |
| 17:22.32 | tarzeau | guevolt: using -R ? |
| 17:22.37 | tarzeau | !perms |
| 17:22.39 | Spliffster | guevolt: chmod NNN `find ./ -type d` |
| 17:22.47 | stew | HolyGoat: which output plugin are you using with xmms? |
| 17:22.47 | tarzeau | dpkg perms is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/perms/ |
| 17:22.48 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 17:22.51 | cr3 | jelly-ho: hm, I ran file on a file that also looks like a shell script and it doesn't mention the dos format |
| 17:22.57 | guevolt | tarzeau: but only directories. |
| 17:23.00 | guevolt | Spliffster: humm.. thanks |
| 17:23.06 | Spliffster | yw |
| 17:23.06 | tarzeau | guevolt: -t d |
| 17:23.16 | tarzeau | guevolt: for find |
| 17:23.16 | dvs | HolyGoat: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 17:23.19 | HolyGoat | stew: Alsa 1.2.10 (libALSA.so) |
| 17:23.26 | tarzeau | guevolt: -type even |
| 17:23.33 | stew | guevolt: what permission are you trying to change? if its x you can use X to only affect directories |
| 17:23.39 | Spliffster | chmod NNN `find ./ -type d` |
| 17:23.42 | HolyGoat | dvs: No sound. |
| 17:23.44 | Ryushin | Can I have another "read line" command running inside of "while read line command"? |
| 17:23.46 | blondie | how do you get rid of the annoying message before sudo's password prompt? |
| 17:23.51 | tarzeau | Ryushin: sure |
| 17:23.53 | stew | Spliffster: that breaks if filenames have spaces |
| 17:23.57 | guevolt | stew: 2775 |
| 17:23.57 | dvs | Holborn: I'd run alsaconf |
| 17:24.13 | Spliffster | stew: true, who puts spaces in filenames |
| 17:24.22 | stew | Spliffster: stew does |
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| 17:24.28 | Spliffster | heh |
| 17:24.37 | Ryushin | tarzeua: Then what is the variable for the second read line? It can't be $line can't it? |
| 17:24.48 | guevolt | Spliffster: worked. thanks |
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| 17:25.45 | Spliffster | guevolt: yw, as mentioned here (stew), this methos is not perfect ... if you have strange characters in filenames (unprintable or < chr(128)) you better use the -exec option of find to do that |
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| 17:26.06 | Spliffster | s/</>/ |
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| 17:26.26 | HolyGoat | dvs: Holy god, it works. Thanks so much (also valdyn and stew) !!! |
| 17:26.34 | HolyGoat | Man I'm so happy. |
| 17:26.44 | Spliffster | another happy customer! |
| 17:26.45 | dvs | HolyGoat: What does "lsmod | grep snd" say? |
| 17:26.45 | Spliffster | :P |
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| 17:27.30 | HolyGoat | dvs: snd_ice1712 54528 3 and a bunch more modules |
| 17:27.41 | jelly-ho | cr3: hrm. '\r\n' it is then. |
| 17:27.54 | dvs | HolyGoat: Put "snd_ice1712" and "snd_pcm_oss" in the /etc/modules file |
| 17:27.57 | HolyGoat | Spliffster: :) This channel rules. |
| 17:28.12 | HolyGoat | dvs: So that it loads those instead of my on-board stuff I take it? |
| 17:28.13 | Ryushin | tarzeau: Or is "$line" not a reserved variable, and I can make it whatever I want? "While read file1line" and then have another "read file2line" inside of it. |
| 17:28.15 | Spliffster | does anyone here know how to make gnome-session more verbous ? i have quiet some problems with it (dapper flight 7) but i get no error messages in the log files. ... not even in ~/.xsession_errors |
| 17:28.30 | dvs | HolyGoat: So they will be loaded whenever you boot the computer. |
| 17:28.31 | valdyn | Spliffster: #ubuntu |
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| 17:28.51 | Spliffster | valdyn: you meant to say #ubuntu+1 right ? |
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| 17:28.59 | HolyGoat | dvs: Got it. Thanks again. |
| 17:29.07 | tarzeau | Ryushin: sure |
| 17:29.13 | tarzeau | Ryushin: you can use any name |
| 17:29.15 | dvs | HolyGoat: You're welcome |
| 17:29.19 | HolyGoat | dvs: Oh man my neighbours are going to hate you :) |
| 17:29.20 | Ryushin | tarzeau: Cool. Thanks. That works for me. |
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| 17:29.28 | Spliffster | valdyn: sorry i am in #debian ... jeez ... i need some sleep |
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| 17:30.13 | Intoxicator | g'day |
| 17:30.16 | rossi3000 | hi my wlan does not work here is my http://paste.debian.net/6900 /var/log/messages maybe its a problem with irq any hints anyone? |
| 17:30.18 | Spliffster | high |
| 17:30.37 | vin` | spleefster and intoxicator, who's missing? |
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| 17:30.45 | abrotman | eradicator ? |
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| 17:30.53 | Intoxicator | no idea. the demolisher, maybe? |
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| 17:31.25 | vin` | the demolestor! |
| 17:31.27 | Intoxicator | or the prohibitor |
| 17:32.01 | dvs | HolyGoat: they'll have to find me first. |
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| 17:32.30 | HolyGoat | dvs: I won't tell /whois output for you. :) |
| 17:32.47 | tarzeau | how do i tell apt-get or aptitude to install suggests or recommends? |
| 17:32.58 | rossi3000 | May 22 19:17:09 debian3000 kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 9 I think this is the problem |
| 17:33.26 | rossi3000 | how can I disable irq 9 for acpi or put it on another irq |
| 17:33.35 | Intoxicator | rossi, for your wlan? unlikely |
| 17:33.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: i think it's a flag in the config |
| 17:33.54 | abrotman | rossi3000: BIOS? |
| 17:34.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: that sucks, because i only want it now |
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| 17:34.29 | abrotman | tarzeau: man aptitude ? |
| 17:34.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: i did! and there was no occurences of .. you know |
| 17:34.59 | tarzeau | abrotman: that manual pages written by debian people suck, because they are just written to satisfy lintian, not the users |
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| 17:36.44 | abrotman | tarzeau: file a bug! |
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| 17:37.09 | roadfish | do I use cdrecord to burn CDs even if I am using a DVD-rewriter? |
| 17:37.10 | tarzeau | abrotman: i would rather throw this plastic bottle at your head |
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| 17:37.16 | tarzeau | roadfish: yes |
| 17:37.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: you can't throw that far |
| 17:37.37 | poopotootti | how to change names font size in xchat 2.6.1 |
| 17:37.50 | abrotman | in the preferences |
| 17:37.52 | dvs | roadfish: no, I use k3b but I've heard growisofs will work. |
| 17:38.02 | poopotootti | channel names |
| 17:38.10 | backz | Hi, I need to convert filenames from UTF-8 to iso8859-1 when I'm creating a .iso with mkisofs... how I do it? |
| 17:38.12 | stew | roadfish: yes |
| 17:38.15 | rossi3000 | intoxicator here at the bottom what could be the problem that I do not find any access points when I make iwlist wlan0 scanning >>> http://paste.debian.net/6900 |
| 17:38.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: what about you move your cute little ass into my room? |
| 17:38.28 | stew | roadfish: well as long as your dvd-rewriter has cd burning capability, of course |
| 17:38.43 | dvs | o_O |
| 17:38.55 | Intoxicator | rossi, but you see the wlan0 device? |
| 17:39.00 | rossi3000 | yes |
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| 17:39.04 | rossi3000 | iwconfig |
| 17:39.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: the commute would suck |
| 17:39.12 | rossi3000 | I see it with that |
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| 17:39.33 | rossi3000 | I also hear it when I make ifup wlan0 |
| 17:39.39 | Intoxicator | rossi, you probably can exclude int9 as potential error issue |
| 17:39.42 | jelly-ho | If anyone has an external SATA (eSata) enclosure, does SMART work with the drives inside? |
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| 17:39.49 | rossi3000 | that it makes little beep |
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| 17:40.10 | GaiaX11 | Does anyone here use an aerial for wireless card? I use this and the aerial is up in my house. It is 6metres high. The problem is that there is a big mango tree which belongs to my neighbour and it is higher than my aerial. So, my connection is becoming very low now. Do anyone know if it has any influence in getting the signal from the server provider big aerial? |
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| 17:40.23 | valdyn | jelly-ho: the case is irrelevantt, maybe your real question is ' does smart work for sata over usb ' or similar |
| 17:40.51 | jelly-ho | valdyn: it is not usb, it's a new pretty thing called eSata. |
| 17:40.55 | jelly-ho | so |
| 17:41.14 | jelly-ho | Does SMART work over external SATA (eSata)? |
| 17:41.25 | rossi3000 | what else could be the problem ? |
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| 17:41.41 | valdyn | jelly-ho: new kernels do support smart on sata, i dont think eSata makes that any different |
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| 17:42.22 | jelly-ho | valdyn: that's what I think too. I'm looking for someone who's actually held a eSata device in hands. |
| 17:42.53 | jair | guys I think that the problem of the xseries I am having is regarding the configuration of the scsi drives and the raid utility that comes with the machine. plus the bios by itself. |
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| 17:43.22 | jair | those three things are the ones that does not allow me to install debian sarge. |
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| 17:44.36 | Klavier | how can i change desktop menu language ? |
| 17:44.46 | Klavier | iim using debian 3.1 gnome |
| 17:45.03 | sandman | My Debian box cannot access the shared folders on my XP box. I have the proper workgroup setup @ the nix box, and I try to browse it via "network" in metacity |
| 17:45.09 | sandman | But it just says it can't display |
| 17:45.12 | jair | I need to make sure that the drives are configured correctly and also the other thing I notice is that at the boot process the machine does not have a bios of the raid or something like that is the message |
| 17:45.36 | darkness_ | Would it be a) Possible to install stackguard for deb, and b) How easy to install? |
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| 17:46.01 | abrotman | possible sure .. easy .. read the docs |
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| 17:47.31 | chron1c | any use godaddy smtp relay servers with postfix? |
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| 17:47.37 | chron1c | anyone* |
| 17:47.47 | blondie | !anyone |
| 17:47.47 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:47.49 | chron1c | i need a b it of help with smtp auth |
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| 17:48.37 | Llama | hi all |
| 17:49.14 | Llama | does lvm save it's information at begin of partition or at end of it ? |
| 17:50.24 | blondie | .by, that's a new one |
| 17:50.41 | abrotman | !.by |
| 17:50.44 | abrotman | !by |
| 17:50.44 | dpkg | [by] Belarus |
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| 17:50.47 | dvs | huh? |
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| 17:51.07 | dvs | I guess they aren't using the english name |
| 17:51.12 | abrotman | you think? |
| 17:51.24 | dvs | abrotman: apparently, i don't ;-) |
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| 17:51.51 | valdyn | !be |
| 17:51.51 | dpkg | from memory, be is Beryllium. Belgium, or the company who made BeOS |
| 17:51.54 | valdyn | !ba |
| 17:51.54 | dpkg | from memory, ba is Bosnia & Herzegovina |
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| 17:52.00 | valdyn | !bl |
| 17:52.00 | dpkg | i heard bl is a program for Blink Keyboard LEDs |
| 17:52.08 | dvs | like that country |
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| 17:53.03 | blondie | belarus *is* english |
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| 17:53.07 | blondie | erm the name |
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| 17:53.21 | abrotman | in .. "belarusian" |
| 17:53.22 | abrotman | ? |
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| 17:53.35 | blondie | belarus is a country |
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| 17:53.42 | dvs | !prise blondie |
| 17:53.43 | streuner | Byelorussian SSR |
| 17:53.45 | junky | when im trying to use my usb, when im plugging it, im getting: http://pastebin.ca/58067 |
| 17:53.50 | dvs | doh! |
| 17:53.55 | abrotman | Belarus (Belarusian: ????????, ?acinka: Bie?aru?; Russian: ????????) |
| 17:53.55 | blondie | streuner: like the USSR? |
| 17:54.00 | junky | ive etch, udev and usbmount |
| 17:54.07 | streuner | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byelorussian_SSR |
| 17:54.07 | dvs | thanks streuner |
| 17:54.19 | valdyn | ŠŠµŠ»Š°ŃŃŃŃ |
| 17:54.40 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:54.40 | dpkg | popcon is, like, the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:54.50 | abrotman | !moo |
| 17:54.50 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 17:54.51 | stew | tarzeau: /msg the bot |
| 17:54.56 | streuner | blondie: no, it was part of it before, but nowadays it a seperate country |
| 17:55.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: i declare war! |
| 17:55.10 | blondie | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus |
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| 17:55.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: which card game? |
| 17:55.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: strip poker? |
| 17:55.35 | dvs | ahahahhahhahah |
| 17:55.38 | dvs | tarzeau: war |
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| 17:55.44 | blondie | streuner: yes, Byelorussian SSR doesn't exist anymore |
| 17:55.56 | outlaw84 | Is there a simple way to run an applications from a chroot? I mean a quick way to put just one application into a chroot? |
| 17:56.11 | blondie | streuner: it's called belarus now |
| 17:56.13 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_(card_game) |
| 17:56.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: we play nethack here |
| 17:56.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: or uno... |
| 17:56.31 | valdyn | !dchroot |
| 17:56.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: i know some card tricks |
| 17:56.57 | valdyn | outlaw84: apt-cache show dchroot |
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| 17:57.47 | outlaw84 | valdyn: thanks |
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| 18:00.38 | onlythetim | I need help getting my mouse to work in X |
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| 18:00.44 | onlythetim | it works fine with gpm |
| 18:00.55 | onlythetim | but won't move when X starts up |
| 18:00.57 | streuner | onlythetim: well, /msg dpkg gpm+x |
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| 18:01.19 | junky | ive an usb stick (FAT32) and apparently automount cant mount it, any help? |
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| 18:01.43 | streuner | junky: what kernel do you use (cat /proc/version)? |
| 18:02.05 | Intoxicator | junky, automount can mount what you can manually mount |
| 18:02.11 | Intoxicator | in general :) |
| 18:02.18 | Intoxicator | junky, can you mount it by hand? |
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| 18:02.40 | onlythetim | streuner: I don't understand |
| 18:02.42 | junky | Linux version 2.6.15-1-486 (Debian 2.6.15-8) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060212 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.2-9)) #2 Mon Mar 6 15:19:16 UTC 2006 |
| 18:02.46 | junky | Intoxicator: nope |
| 18:02.58 | onlythetim | do I type that into the console? |
| 18:03.02 | Intoxicator | junky: then don't be surprised that automount can't |
| 18:03.03 | streuner | onlythetim: ok, apt-get remove gpm and just use X |
| 18:03.04 | junky | if i could mount it by hand, i would be happy too. |
| 18:03.19 | streuner | !tell onlythetim about gpm+x |
| 18:03.35 | Intoxicator | streuner, does it have a file system? |
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| 18:04.08 | junky | caster:/mnt# mount -t fat32 /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb/ |
| 18:04.08 | junky | mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat32' |
| 18:04.09 | junky | mount: maybe you meant 'vfat'? |
| 18:04.23 | Johnny_5 | junky do you have a penium 4? |
| 18:04.25 | streuner | onlythetim: Is scsi emulation module loaded? |
| 18:04.26 | junky | but even vfat doesnt work. |
| 18:04.38 | junky | yep, that machine is a celeron D. |
| 18:04.38 | streuner | junky: Is scsi emulation module loaded? |
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| 18:04.54 | Johnny_5 | ok |
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| 18:06.10 | junky | streuner: not too sure, which package is, but dpkg --list|grep scsi returns nothing. |
| 18:06.35 | Johnny_5 | just checking. i have an amd and i upgraded to a 486 kernal and had all kinds of probs with my last install. i finlly killed it and had to reinstall. never made the same mistake twice. |
| 18:06.35 | streuner | junky: its a module of the kernel... |
| 18:06.42 | Intoxicator | junky, try to mount it as vfat |
| 18:07.10 | streuner | true, it should care which module to load |
| 18:07.38 | junky | Intoxicator: nope doesnt work the vfat: |
| 18:07.43 | junky | caster:/mnt# mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb/ |
| 18:07.44 | junky | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so |
| 18:08.07 | stew | junky: does "fdisk -l" list any partitions on /dev/sda ? |
| 18:08.15 | Intoxicator | junky, your system doesn'y seem to have vfat support |
| 18:08.25 | streuner | nah |
| 18:08.34 | streuner | he is using an official kernel... |
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| 18:09.12 | dmesg | hi |
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| 18:09.13 | junky | this is my dmesg |
| 18:09.16 | junky | http://pastebin.ca/58086 |
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| 18:09.25 | dmesg | is the mac book suported by debian? |
| 18:09.54 | stew | dmesg: yes |
| 18:10.06 | dmesg | stew :O |
| 18:10.09 | junky | stew: |
| 18:10.10 | junky | isk /dev/sda: 521 MB, 521928192 bytes |
| 18:10.10 | junky | 129 heads, 11 sectors/track, 718 cylinders |
| 18:10.10 | junky | Units = cylinders of 1419 * 512 = 726528 bytes |
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| 18:10.13 | dmesg | thanks :) |
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| 18:10.38 | stew | junky: that dmesg looks kinda nasty, i don't know what would cause those errors |
| 18:10.53 | Laibsch | Hi, I can't get sshfs to work on my debian testing machine. When I try to connect to a remote host, I get a "Permission denied" error when sshfs tries to call fusermount which is a setuid root binary. |
| 18:11.03 | stew | dmesg: wait if you are talking about some new intel based mac laptop, i'm not actually sure |
| 18:11.03 | Laibsch | Anybody can help me? |
| 18:11.12 | junky | yep, thats really odd, cause that usb stick works really well on my windows machine. |
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| 18:11.29 | junky | could it be cause im running etch? |
| 18:11.32 | dmesg | stew yes about de dual core procesor |
| 18:11.32 | Shakal | someone can tell me how to read a DVD-RAM in my debian? |
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| 18:11.58 | Klavier | is there any package manager GUI for debain on gnome? |
| 18:12.00 | quitte | junky: try mounting sda instead of sda1 |
| 18:12.00 | nkuttler | junky: hm, sounds like it is faulty... you could try an mkfs with badblock check |
| 18:12.10 | stew | Klavier: aptitude or synaptic |
| 18:12.30 | Klavier | found Kpackage |
| 18:12.45 | netman1 | Hi All. Is there a way to show the nscd cache contents (passwd/group/hosts) ? |
| 18:12.52 | onlythetim | how do I prevent X from starting automatically? |
| 18:12.55 | phaedrus__ | mmm lunch was good |
| 18:13.06 | junky | quitte: which with filesystem? |
| 18:13.14 | stew | onlythetim: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 18:13.18 | quitte | junky: it should autodetect |
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| 18:13.38 | junky | nkuttler: to be honest, i never perform that stuff before, can u guide me here? |
| 18:13.52 | onlythetim | sorry, but I don't understand "/msg dpkg ___" |
| 18:14.04 | junky | caster:/mnt# mount /dev/sda /mnt/usb/ |
| 18:14.05 | junky | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 18:14.15 | junky | even with -t auto (same stuff) |
| 18:14.24 | lewis | can someone remind me where the editmotd option is? I don't want debian to change my motd on boot. |
| 18:14.24 | stew | junky: does "fdisk -l" list any partitions on /dev/sda? |
| 18:14.45 | netman1 | onlythetim: just type it in in your irc client. |
| 18:14.47 | yassine | on all the devices not only /dev/sda |
| 18:14.48 | stew | lewis: grep motd /etc/init.d/* |
| 18:14.53 | streuner | lewis: man issue, man motd |
| 18:14.53 | onlythetim | oh |
| 18:14.55 | onlythetim | thanks |
| 18:15.14 | Shakal | someone can tell me how to read a DVD-RAM in my debian? |
| 18:15.15 | junky | yes, sda1p1 (http://pastebin.ca/58087 if u wanna see the full output) |
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| 18:16.32 | lewis | the only motd lines are in bootmisc.sh and are all commented out. |
| 18:16.39 | stew | what the heck is /dev/sda1p1? |
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| 18:17.04 | Klavier | im trying to remove a package but it downloads something |
| 18:17.12 | Klavier | is that normal? |
| 18:17.13 | junky | stew: ive no idea, but if im plugging that usb stick on my windows machine, it works, its the only thing i can confirm. |
| 18:17.14 | stew | Klavier: be more specific |
| 18:17.30 | streuner | lewis: well, are you care to read what we told you? |
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| 18:17.47 | stew | junky: *shrug* tried mounting /dev/sda1p1? (i've never seen such a device) |
| 18:17.49 | junky | something for sda1 partition 1, i'd guess. |
| 18:17.51 | Klavier | stew i opened Kpackage and i changed epiphany i and i clicked remove |
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| 18:18.09 | k31th | guys, i need to get gd working for php... this web app needs the gd libary to create images etc. Is there a package i can apt-get for this ? |
| 18:18.12 | stew | Klavier: what does it download? |
| 18:18.13 | Klavier | than it s download something from internet i cant understand |
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| 18:18.33 | Klavier | i think it s downloading gnome |
| 18:18.33 | Klavier | :D |
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| 18:18.38 | junky | caster:/mnt# mount /dev/sda1p1 /mnt/usb/ |
| 18:18.38 | junky | mount: special device /dev/sda1p1 does not exist |
| 18:18.50 | stew | k31th: apt-cache search php gd |
| 18:18.54 | Shakal | please. someone can tell me how to read a DVD-RAM in my debian? |
| 18:18.58 | backz | my cdrecord is returning: DMA speed too slow (OK for 11x). Cannot write at speed 40x. cdrecord: Max DMA data speed is 11. need I enable ultraDMA? |
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| 18:19.04 | lewis | streuner: both man pages didn't return anything useful |
| 18:19.06 | junky | Shakal: just mounting it? |
| 18:19.15 | lewis | ah |
| 18:19.25 | Shakal | junky, ive write it but i cant read |
| 18:19.26 | streuner | lewis: ok, feel free to write one |
| 18:19.27 | lewis | it was in /etc/default/rcS |
| 18:19.33 | Shakal | junky, i writed in windows |
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| 18:20.19 | Shakal | junky, there is "incd" files in the dVD-RAM, but its not what i putted in there |
| 18:20.21 | k31th | stew: yes iv done that and isntalled it...do i have to enable the module in apache ? |
| 18:20.35 | stew | k31th: /etc/php4/apache/php.ini |
| 18:20.43 | Liquid_Ic | I just did an adduser to make a new account. but this account has access to my whole filesystem. how do i limit this accoutn to just home/user/ ? |
| 18:20.59 | junky | stew: any hints to get that usb stick working? |
| 18:21.16 | junky | Shakal: can u mount it? |
| 18:21.45 | AzianFlu | junky, got hotplug? |
| 18:21.53 | stew | junky: what does "ls -l /dev/sda1p1" return? |
| 18:21.54 | Shakal | junky, i dont know |
| 18:22.05 | Shadowcat | you can't |
| 18:22.22 | Shadowcat | accounts need access to certain places to be able to login in the first place |
| 18:22.41 | junky | caster:/mnt# ls -l /dev/sda1p1 |
| 18:22.42 | junky | ls: /dev/sda1p1: No such file or directory |
| 18:22.52 | junky | AzianFlu: nope, automount |
| 18:22.54 | Liquid_Ic | Shadowcat, thi sis for a remote user sshing to do some web work, i don't want to give him access to everythign. what's the best way to lock it down? |
| 18:23.07 | AzianFlu | whats with that p1? |
| 18:23.13 | junky | AzianFlu: the problem is i cant mount it by hand so far. |
| 18:23.21 | Klavier | while im removing a package it s upgrading something too |
| 18:23.23 | AzianFlu | k |
| 18:23.26 | Klavier | interesting |
| 18:23.55 | lectrix | hey all. i got stuck on this and am asking for a little help. i am using exim4-heavy-deamon and php4. if i am sending mail from php, exim always adds headers, even if headers are already set by the mail() function, this results in unreadable mails. i piped email directly to sendmail -ti, this works ok, no double headers. |
| 18:23.59 | AzianFlu | i don't know automount i fear |
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| 18:24.19 | lectrix | cant find help with google or in the manual... |
| 18:24.21 | Shadowcat | Liquid_Ic: I already told you, he has to have access to certain things to be able to login |
| 18:24.26 | junky | AzianFlu: automount is to automatiquely mount/umount usb devices. |
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| 18:24.59 | Liquid_Ic | shadow: he does not need access to other users directories, right now i can read every users home directory from his account |
| 18:25.13 | Shadowcat | no |
| 18:25.23 | backz | how I enable UltraDMA on debian? |
| 18:25.29 | Shadowcat | but /usr/bin, /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin |
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| 18:25.31 | Shadowcat | places like that |
| 18:25.33 | AzianFlu | yeah, but i don't know how it does so. i would have thought it would be sda or sdb. but stew is already looking that way for ya |
| 18:25.37 | Shadowcat | basically most of /usr |
| 18:25.41 | stew | Liquid_Ic: chmod 700 the other home directories; dpkg-reconfigure adduser ; and set the default permissions on future home directories to be not world readable |
| 18:25.43 | streuner | backz: man hdparm |
| 18:25.50 | junky | stew: if i support vfat will be a fast way for me? |
| 18:25.54 | Liquid_Ic | thank you stew! |
| 18:26.14 | Shadowcat | bah |
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| 18:26.18 | Shadowcat | what's a good tv show |
| 18:26.22 | streuner | backz: HINT: if you using an official kernel, its turned on by default |
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| 18:26.48 | Liquid_Ic | Shadow: Las Vegas on nbc |
| 18:26.53 | stew | junky: i didn't understand that question |
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| 18:27.04 | Shadowcat | hmm |
| 18:27.13 | Shadowcat | guess I'll have to grab it sometime |
| 18:27.13 | streuner | backz: or you configure BIOS wrong |
| 18:27.24 | junky | since my system doesnt support vfat (apparently), how can i support it? |
| 18:27.33 | stew | junky: your system does support vfat |
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| 18:27.58 | junky | why i cant mount -t vfat my /dev/sda1 ? |
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| 18:28.23 | blondie | junky: what happens? |
| 18:28.43 | stew | junky: i don't know. you are getting some funky stuff in dmesg and "fdisk -l" that i've never seen before |
| 18:28.52 | junky | caster:/mnt# mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb/ |
| 18:28.52 | junky | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, |
| 18:28.58 | junky | ... |
| 18:29.12 | stew | junky: if you want assurance that your system supports vfat, "grep vfat /proc/filesystems". if that returns "vfat" your system supports it |
| 18:29.19 | streuner | junky: man mkfs.vfat |
| 18:29.31 | streuner | junky: and create that FS new on the stick |
| 18:29.33 | stew | he doesn't need to create a vfat filesystem |
| 18:29.42 | junky | stew: it supports it :) |
| 18:30.12 | junky | but will that usb stick still works on my other machine (windows) after? |
| 18:30.38 | stew | well maybe creating a new fs would be better for him |
| 18:30.39 | streuner | sure, linux is in such things better (TM) ;-) |
| 18:32.00 | junky | bash: mkfs.vfat: command not found |
| 18:32.07 | junky | so no man neither. |
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| 18:32.17 | streuner | !find mkfs.vfat |
| 18:32.41 | onlythetim | ok, I got X running, but it only seems to work at low resolution (probably 640x480) |
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| 18:33.18 | onlythetim | I have the mode 1024x768 listed in all the display sections... |
| 18:33.25 | streuner | junky: apt-get install apt-file, apt-file search mkfs.vfat |
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| 18:33.39 | streuner | junky: and don't forget apt-file update |
| 18:34.06 | dvs | onlythetim: Ctrl-Alt-Num Pad + |
| 18:34.21 | onlythetim | hmmm |
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| 18:34.31 | onlythetim | its on a laptop that doesn't have a numpad... |
| 18:34.35 | streuner | knusper:/home/user# apt-file search mkfs.vfat |
| 18:34.35 | streuner | dosfstools: sbin/mkfs.vfat |
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| 18:35.12 | ed_ | hi. where the heck on the mirrors are the curren stable floppy boot disks? |
| 18:35.23 | tarzeau | !fd |
| 18:35.24 | dpkg | hmm... fd is at http://www.freedevelopers.net. File Descriptor |
| 18:35.28 | tarzeau | !d-i |
| 18:35.29 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ d-i is the new generation Debian Installer, the replacement for boot floopies which was last used in woody. If you want to make custom install cds, start with d-i. |
| 18:35.30 | Shadowcat | !floppy |
| 18:35.31 | dpkg | floppy is probably flop, flop, flop.. or don't copy that floppy! |
| 18:35.38 | Shadowcat | !factinfo floppy |
| 18:35.38 | dpkg | floppy -- last modified at Sat Dec 10 05:43:21 2005 by jlj__!i=jlj@84-217-7-209.tn.glocalnet.net. |
| 18:35.46 | Shadowcat | ok that's completely useless |
| 18:35.50 | Shadowcat | !forget floppy |
| 18:36.03 | Shadowcat | !no floppy is removed |
| 18:36.03 | dpkg | Shadowcat: okay |
| 18:36.07 | Shadowcat | !forget floppy |
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| 18:36.11 | ed_ | Shadowcat, i've been looking for ages |
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| 18:36.28 | streuner | Shadowcat: use dpkg instead of ! |
| 18:36.34 | macsim | hi, where can I found debian sid netinstaller ? thx |
| 18:36.39 | Shadowcat | streuner: I'm msging the bot |
| 18:36.46 | Shadowcat | I still can't make it forget that factoid |
| 18:36.46 | streuner | *shrug* |
| 18:36.47 | Shadowcat | :( |
| 18:36.59 | Shadowcat | <dpkg> cannot remove factoid 'floppy', too old. (13290.7753356481>6048) use 'no,' instead |
| 18:37.03 | dvs | Shadowcat: use "dpkg: " instead of ! |
| 18:37.04 | streuner | dpkg, forget floppy |
| 18:37.04 | onlythetim | dvs: ok, never mind about the numpad, but when I did ctrl-alt-NP +, nothing happened |
| 18:37.08 | ed_ | blondie, /me frisbies a rackmount with no cddrive or pxe back |
| 18:37.27 | streuner | dpkg, no floppy is foo |
| 18:37.28 | dpkg | streuner: okay |
| 18:37.29 | jelly-ho | Where's the nice page with stats pointing to possible mia maintainters/packages not uploaded long ago? |
| 18:37.35 | streuner | dpkg, forget floppy |
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| 18:38.16 | junky | streuner: thanks, i'll read a bit on this, gimme few minutes. |
| 18:38.18 | ed_ | blondie, just keep throwing me hardware. ktnx ta |
| 18:38.20 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 18:38.26 | blondie | ed_: ok |
| 18:38.28 | blondie | hm |
| 18:38.31 | blondie | I wouldn't fit |
| 18:38.49 | Laibsch | My reportbug config no longer works. Whenever I do a submission, I get "Connecting to bugs.debian.org via SMTP... |
| 18:38.49 | Laibsch | SMTP send failure: (-2, 'Name or service not known')" |
| 18:38.59 | jelly-ho | never mind, found it http://io.debian.net/~tar/bugstats/ |
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| 18:39.18 | Laibsch | But bugs.debian.org can be resolved and pinged. What is the problem. |
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| 18:39.30 | onlythetim | can anyone help me fix my resolution? (neomagic video card/ driver) |
| 18:39.45 | stew | !no floppy is <reply> see bf |
| 18:39.45 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 18:39.52 | stew | !no bf is <reply> see sarge floppies |
| 18:39.53 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 18:40.10 | streuner | dpkg, floppy |
| 18:40.10 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge floppies is http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitute your arch for i386 |
| 18:40.43 | plbgnr | hello, does anybody use irda port (usb to irda device) ? I can see my mobile phone in irdadump output, but, can't find working software for further work :( any advice for sw which works good for you? |
| 18:41.01 | backz | When I run hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom it returns HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted |
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| 18:41.06 | ed_ | streuner, now where did you fidn the link to that? |
| 18:41.13 | junky | mkfs.vfat: failed whilst writing FAT |
| 18:41.18 | streuner | ed_: i didn't |
| 18:41.24 | ed_ | streuner, thats totally burried |
| 18:41.26 | blondie | junky: maybe the disk is broken |
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| 18:41.42 | junky | blondie: it works great on windows. |
| 18:41.44 | streuner | ed_: but, there is surely on the website a link about (www.debian.org) |
| 18:41.47 | stew | did mkfs.vfat really use the word "whilst"? |
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| 18:42.00 | ed_ | streuner, there is a link, but it just says to look on the mirrors |
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| 18:42.11 | dvs | stew: FAT is an old file system |
| 18:42.18 | dvs | ;-) |
| 18:42.21 | jelly-ho | dvs: lol |
| 18:42.21 | streuner | ed_: ok, look into ig then |
| 18:42.24 | streuner | !ig |
| 18:42.24 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
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| 18:42.38 | ed_ | streuner, thats where i found that |
| 18:42.47 | crow | Hi all "dpkg -i debootstrap_0.2.45-0.2_i386.deb " to /tmp dir howto? |
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| 18:43.12 | junky | if im running badblocks /dev/sda1 and i see A LOT of output, does it mean that usb stick is crap? |
| 18:43.33 | streuner | isn't badblocks for ext2? |
| 18:43.37 | tarzeau | junky: what output? |
| 18:43.41 | tarzeau | streuner: no |
| 18:43.44 | streuner | oh |
| 18:43.45 | tarzeau | streuner: it's not fs dependant |
| 18:43.51 | ed_ | streuner, i think ext3 still has bad blocks, its just with journalling |
| 18:43.56 | junky | tarzeau: a lot of numbers. |
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| 18:43.56 | tarzeau | streuner: it just reads(writes) blocks |
| 18:44.08 | tarzeau | junky: what numbers? can you post an url to the full output? |
| 18:44.17 | ed_ | badblocks is not something you want to be having to run, especially on your / |
| 18:44.21 | tarzeau | ed_: badblocks works on everything |
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| 18:44.32 | tarzeau | ed_: sure, if you do it readonly , that's fine perfectly |
| 18:44.37 | aimtrainer | hi! installing an nvidia graphic driver on my sys via synaptic would delete 14 packages. Im not sure if any of em is important. Could I querry someone the list, to have a look at it and tell me if please? |
| 18:44.46 | junky | im running it on my /dev/sda1 |
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| 18:44.56 | stew | aimtrainer: /msg dpkg paster |
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| 18:45.07 | tarzeau | junky: so? |
| 18:45.10 | ed_ | tarzeau, well ive had to run it before, but it was no use because on obsd the best you can do is tell mkfs to avoid those blocks |
| 18:45.16 | junky | tarzeau: its like a loop, wait isnt finished yet. |
| 18:45.51 | johnsu01 | Has something about the autofs config changed since http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127? I followed the steps, but my sd* device does not get mounted. |
| 18:46.18 | junky | god, im freezing! |
| 18:46.39 | aimtrainer | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2604 |
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| 18:47.10 | aimtrainer | there it is |
| 18:47.58 | stew | aimtrainer: what version of debian are you running exactly? |
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| 18:48.33 | stew | aimtrainer: kanotix? |
| 18:48.37 | aimtrainer | kanotix - but I thought as its debian based... |
| 18:48.58 | stew | aimtrainer: we can't support kanotix here, please ask in #kanotix |
| 18:49.03 | aimtrainer | ... I should ve asked in #kanotix right? |
| 18:49.09 | aimtrainer | kk :) |
| 18:49.10 | abrotman | i know a special someone in #kanotix .. |
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| 18:49.21 | dvs | We could support kanotix, but we would have to charge for it. |
| 18:49.23 | junky | 6551404 |
| 18:49.23 | junky | 6551405 |
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| 18:49.29 | KerPlunk | resume2=swap:/dev/hda5 |
| 18:49.33 | aimtrainer | dvs how much? ;) |
| 18:49.36 | KerPlunk | Where do I put that line in /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 18:49.41 | dvs | aimtrainer: how much do you have? |
| 18:49.42 | KerPlunk | Do I put it under the kernel line? |
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| 18:49.49 | junky | i was getting increment like that. |
| 18:50.06 | aimtrainer | dvs im doin 9 months of social services right now |
| 18:50.07 | valdyn | junky: if that is not a software fault you want to throw that stick away asap |
| 18:50.15 | aimtrainer | so approximately ... nothing |
| 18:50.21 | johnsu01 | I can type mount /dev/mobiledisk and mount the device fine, so the udev rule seems to be working OK. |
| 18:51.00 | valdyn | KerPlunk: you append it to the kernel line |
| 18:51.23 | KerPlunk | thank valdyn |
| 18:51.40 | junky | valdyn: all number i see to STDOUT from badblocks is all the bad sectors? |
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| 18:52.24 | Zvpun | is there a graphical ps tool (preferable kde=? |
| 18:52.24 | valdyn | junky: its bad blocks ) |
| 18:52.32 | valdyn | junky: sector is a disk term |
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| 18:52.54 | valdyn | junky: like harddisk / floppy etc |
| 18:53.22 | stew | Zvpun: konsole -e top |
| 18:53.28 | ak74 | #/flood |
| 18:53.30 | zoidberg | Zvpun. hit strg + esc in kde |
| 18:53.35 | ak74 | #flood |
| 18:53.35 | valdyn | Zvpun: ksysguard |
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| 18:53.37 | ix | Zvpun: psdoom |
| 18:53.37 | ix | :D |
| 18:53.49 | Zvpun | thanks |
| 18:54.05 | Zvpun | strg + esc was the noob friendly version |
| 18:54.33 | zoidberg | you should try psdoom, too :-) |
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| 18:54.50 | Zvpun | it wasn't for me, I use ps and kill but for a friend. |
| 18:54.56 | Zvpun | thanks to all or you |
| 18:55.06 | blondie | what is strg? |
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| 18:55.11 | quitte | ctrl |
| 18:55.20 | blondie | o.O |
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| 18:56.15 | Whoppix27 | hi everyone |
| 18:56.30 | dvs | Whoppix27: is Whoppix a distro for Wrestlers? |
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| 18:57.41 | Intoxicator | no,. it is the competitor to bigmaccix |
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| 18:57.59 | backz | how see al avaliable kernel modules ? |
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| 18:58.33 | stew | backz: /sbin/modprobe -l |
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| 19:00.33 | aarkerio | I get an intel PRO/Wireless 2200 card |
| 19:00.54 | aarkerio | somebody knows the kernel module to use this hardware? |
| 19:01.03 | sid | !ipw2200 |
| 19:01.03 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, To install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. You will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) package, and contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200. It is built in to kernels >= 2.6.15 and will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 19:01.06 | sid | aarkerio: use that. |
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| 19:01.29 | sid | aarkerio: /join #ipw2200 also |
| 19:02.03 | johnsu01 | Anyone have a working auto.master and auto.whatever I could look at? |
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| 19:02.26 | abrotman | just an auto.vw.abouttodie here |
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| 19:03.42 | johnsu01 | abrotman: That sounds too dangerous. |
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| 19:06.21 | a1fa | yo |
| 19:06.23 | a1fa | ~synergy |
| 19:06.25 | apt | well, synergy is Gemma, or a KM program (think KVM without any video), see http://synergy2.sourceforge.net |
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| 19:06.31 | a1fa | anybody got synergy 1.3.1 to compile? |
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| 19:06.53 | jMCg | Is there a Debian-dev in the #channel? |
| 19:06.54 | junky | im running badblocks on my /dev/sda1, and so far, ive: caster:/mnt# cat bad.txt | wc -l |
| 19:06.58 | junky | 44313804 |
| 19:07.13 | junky | could it be possible ? i doubt it, since that device works perfectly on my windows machine. |
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| 19:08.26 | stew | johnsu01: i have "/var/autofs/removable /etc/auto.removable --timeout=2" in .master and "usbkey1 -fstype=vfat,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022 :/dev/usbkey1" in .removable. That was working, but i'm not using autofs anymore, so i dunno |
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| 19:09.53 | johnsu01 | stew: Hm. That's essentially what I have, but nothing gets mounted when I plug it in. |
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| 19:10.09 | Nirgal | Hi #debian. Does anyone know a free equivalent of nomachine nx to get a nicely compressed remote display, i mean something better that a simple ssh -X -C ? |
| 19:10.24 | valdyn | !nx |
| 19:10.24 | dpkg | hmm... nx is http://www.nomachine.com/ NX terminal server client/server. Like VNC but faster, with security, multi-client. Partially non-free. #nx |
| 19:10.33 | valdyn | !freenx |
| 19:10.33 | dpkg | it has been said that freenx is a Free implementation of the nomachine.com caching system for X, RDP and VNC, based on their GPLd libraries. packages for sarge: "deb http://www.linux.lk/~anuradha/nx/ ./" packages for etch/sid: "deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ experimental main" |
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| 19:11.13 | Nirgal | thanks valdyn :) |
| 19:11.59 | stew | johnsu01: which version of debian are you running? |
| 19:12.09 | jMCg | Anyone able to get any clues from this: http://pastebin.ca/58042 [here's the same with "debugging" [set -x] turned on: http://web.esotericsystems.at/websvn.txt |
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| 19:12.43 | valdyn | junky: run badblocks on the device directly, running it on a partition may be affected by your partition table just being messed up |
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| 19:12.52 | valdyn | junky: like: badblocks /dev/sda |
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| 19:13.13 | Ab3l | hi i got a problem: my debian (3.1 sarge) does not allow resolution greater than 800x600 on a ace lcd monitor how do i fix ? |
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| 19:13.20 | zimnyx | I want to install tomcat5 on debian stable. This package is available in testing, what method do you advise to install tomcat5? IS http://www.divvun.no/doc/infra/webserver.html OK? |
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| 19:14.29 | johnsu01 | stew: unstable |
| 19:15.05 | johnsu01 | stew: I'm not even sure that autofs is the way to go -- what I'm after is automounting a usb stick without using gnome or other desktop environ |
| 19:15.13 | stew | johnsu01: you could use ivman instaead http://wiki.debian.org//IVMan |
| 19:15.16 | junky | valdyn: thanks, ive no badblocks on my usb apparently. |
| 19:15.33 | junky | brb |
| 19:15.50 | johnsu01 | stew: ah, thanks for the tips |
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| 19:19.54 | stew | johnsu01: i'm the ivman maintainer, lemme know if you have problems |
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| 19:21.00 | marco13185 | !remove kde |
| 19:21.00 | dpkg | remove kde is, like, apt-get --purge remove kdelibs kdelibs-bin (or ask me about "install kde") |
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| 19:21.47 | abrotman | why the hell would the remove kde factoid tell you to look at install kde? |
| 19:22.02 | marco13185 | abrotman, no idea, I just want to reinstall just kdebase |
| 19:22.06 | marco13185 | so I don't get all the shit |
| 19:22.08 | abrotman | heh |
| 19:22.22 | marco13185 | I use xfce, but occasionally, I feel like using KDE ^.^ |
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| 19:22.27 | marco13185 | !install kde |
| 19:22.27 | dpkg | methinks install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
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| 19:23.21 | phaedrus__ | how can i get that cool transparent bash window? |
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| 19:23.33 | marco13185 | phaedrus_, by using any terminal emulator that supports transparency |
| 19:23.37 | jjazz | phaedrus__: man <your terminal> |
| 19:23.38 | marco13185 | most do, just look in the options |
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| 19:24.18 | phaedrus__ | ok cool |
| 19:24.20 | phaedrus__ | thanks a lot |
| 19:24.26 | marco13185 | np |
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| 19:27.32 | rpt | is there a package for identd? ive seem to lost it :) |
| 19:27.51 | stew | rpt: apt-cache search identd |
| 19:28.29 | rpt | stew: negative :o |
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| 19:28.39 | stew | rpt: what version of debian are you running? |
| 19:28.53 | rpt | sarge |
| 19:29.11 | rpt | apt-cache search brings the different kinds of ident daemons, but not the standard identd :) |
| 19:29.19 | rpt | and id like to use that |
| 19:30.19 | johnsu01 | Also, just an informational question about packaging practices, not looking for a debate. I noticed that the free nvidia config package suggests packages from nonfree (of course). Is this a "bug", or do other main packages suggest nonfree stuff too? |
| 19:30.20 | ries | packages are getting held back.... I am trying to update my system on testing.. I forgot what the reason was :s |
| 19:30.40 | stew | rpt: i wasn't aware that there was a "standard" one. /msg dpkg apt-file ; apt-file search bin/identd |
| 19:31.06 | rpt | stew: with 'standard' i mean the one that comes with the standard installation ofcourse, i shall msg dpkg |
| 19:31.18 | stew | johnsu01: hmm iirc this exact issue was discussed on the debian-devel list recently |
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| 19:31.25 | stew | rpt: standard installation of what? |
| 19:31.35 | rpt | stew: euh uh debian? :o) |
| 19:31.52 | stew | rpt: debian doesn't install one at all by default |
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| 19:32.20 | rpt | stew: when i do a netinst for a debian system, identd is surely installed by default :p |
| 19:32.29 | stew | rpt: no, it isn't |
| 19:32.34 | Ronin | rpt: nope |
| 19:32.39 | stew | rpt: there is no way that identd is in base |
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| 19:33.16 | rpt | hum, well in any case, my install came with identd, be it in some extra package then, but i believe thats what most people install over 'oidentd' or 'pidentd' |
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| 19:33.21 | Raging_Hog | im compiling ufo2000, compiler complains that "cstring: memcmp has not been declared". any ideas? |
| 19:34.01 | kimo | I just got a PDF, which I am supposed to 'sign and email back'. Can I do this with FOSS only software? |
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| 19:35.27 | streuner | kimo: use gimp |
| 19:35.53 | streuner | kimo: gimp can just write to jpg |
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| 19:36.13 | agney | anyone here already used dd on a mounted and running partition ? |
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| 19:36.46 | streuner | kimo: or you use cups-pdf |
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| 19:37.19 | streuner | kimo: working with gimp and write it via cups-pdf |
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| 19:37.44 | kimo | streuner: can gimp open pdf ? |
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| 19:37.54 | streuner | kimo: yes, IIRC |
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| 19:38.29 | RvGaTe | How do i know how many users are currently connected on the ftp... (vsftpd) |
| 19:38.45 | streuner | w |
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| 19:39.08 | zimnyx | Is there some official list repositories with packages for stable, which are available only in etch and sid? |
| 19:39.17 | zimnyx | i want to install tomcat5 on Stable |
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| 19:40.33 | Raging_Hog | ive got several versions of g++ installed, is it safe to remove some of them? |
| 19:40.50 | streuner | you don't need to |
| 19:41.09 | cahoot | para-answer |
| 19:41.22 | Raging_Hog | is newest g++ always used? |
| 19:41.29 | streuner | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 May 16 16:36 /usr/bin/g++ -> g++-4.0 |
| 19:41.43 | Raging_Hog | ok |
| 19:41.57 | Raging_Hog | but will it break something if i remove an older one? |
| 19:42.05 | streuner | cahoot: if you have another, feel free ;-) |
| 19:42.26 | cahoot | Raging_Hog: not all source wants the 'latest' compiler |
| 19:42.28 | streuner | just try it and see |
| 19:42.49 | cahoot | Raging_Hog: IIRC mplayer doesn't like 4.0 |
| 19:43.17 | Raging_Hog | yes im going to go through some g++ versions to check if the fault is there |
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| 19:43.58 | streuner | most developers just use debian, so it should be possible. |
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| 19:45.07 | streuner | if there isn't a bug in the source..., my cam-source driver had one... ;-) |
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| 19:45.36 | nuke | testing |
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| 19:48.00 | kombi | where about is ip_conntrack_ftp in make menuconfig? |
| 19:48.08 | Spudchat | hildi, im having a hardtime setting up mod_deflate for apache2, where should the confguration for it go? |
| 19:48.14 | Spudchat | sheesh hi* |
| 19:48.22 | stew | kombi: iirc networking options->netfilter |
| 19:48.30 | Spudchat | should i put it in httpd.conf or in conf.d in its own file? |
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| 19:48.44 | tarzeau | telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 |
| 19:48.47 | kombi | thanks stew, was looking for it quite some time now.. |
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| 19:49.19 | streuner | tarzeau: nethack? |
| 19:49.21 | kombi | stew: "FTP protoco support" ? |
| 19:49.25 | tarzeau | streuner: yep :) |
| 19:49.42 | kombi | *protocol.. |
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| 19:51.09 | stew | kombi: yes |
| 19:51.22 | kombi | stew: weired, switched on in my config but modprobe says it can't find it.. |
| 19:51.44 | hobophobe | In the EULA in the back of my textbook for my Java class the license says this: "You acknowledge that Licensed Software is not designed or intended for use in the design, construction, operation, or maintenance of any nuclear facility." Is this what they meant?! |
| 19:51.57 | stew | kombi: you make it (M) or (*)? |
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| 19:52.00 | dvs | hobophobe: Why not? |
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| 19:52.08 | junky | wb |
| 19:52.16 | kombi | stew: good point, wait.. |
| 19:52.16 | hobophobe | dvs, well the specificity is kind of odd...why just nuclear facilities? |
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| 19:52.24 | Nirgal | apt-get upgrade |
| 19:52.39 | hobophobe | They don't go on to specify yachts or marshmallow factories or anything. |
| 19:52.43 | abrotman | hobophobe: countries .us doesn't like |
| 19:52.44 | junky | stew: ive no idea what i did exactly, but my usb stick is now working. |
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| 19:52.49 | dvs | hobophobe: I wouldn't want to be held liable for a nuclear disaster. |
| 19:53.26 | junky | this is my line from df |
| 19:53.28 | junky | /dev/sda1 521M 334M 188M 65% /media/usbdisk |
| 19:53.41 | hobophobe | dvs, well I found it funny, because generally they just disclaim the software from any use, and don't specify nuclear facilities I guess? |
| 19:53.45 | kombi | stew: very good point indeed, built into the K, nothing to worry about then..;) |
| 19:53.47 | hobophobe | dvs, really? I didn't know that. |
| 19:53.49 | junky | but ive no idea which debian package is automounting it? automount? |
| 19:53.54 | dvs | hobophobe: I was kidding |
| 19:54.10 | hobophobe | ah hehe :o) |
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| 19:54.59 | dvs | hobophobe: It's kind of scary that the nuclear facilities around here cannot find replacement parts for the equipment they're currently using. |
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| 19:55.34 | hobophobe | Wow yeah, that's not good... hopefully someone can make them or they can upgrade the components? |
| 19:56.32 | penrod | I am trying to mount a scsi disk and having difficulties. fdisk confirms the disk is formatted with ntfs. however when I attempt to mount it I get the following error "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, |
| 19:56.57 | abrotman | penrod: what options are you using? and don't you mean sda1 ? |
| 19:57.03 | Le_Vert | /dev/sda is the full disk |
| 19:57.08 | Le_Vert | you should try /dev/sda1 |
| 19:57.15 | Le_Vert | run fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 19:57.20 | Le_Vert | to see all your partitions |
| 19:57.22 | abrotman | Le_Vert: some devices work as /dev/sda (mostly usb devices) |
| 19:57.35 | penrod | here is my mount command, "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 shares/ " |
| 19:57.39 | Le_Vert | because they don't have a good partition table |
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| 19:57.57 | Le_Vert | erase your key wuth dd |
| 19:58.02 | Le_Vert | fdisk, mkfs then |
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| 19:58.06 | Le_Vert | you will have sda1 ;) |
| 19:58.16 | Liquid_Ic | how can root view other users ssh sessions in progress? |
| 19:58.22 | abrotman | ttysnoop |
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| 19:58.36 | asg | or use screen as a login shell |
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| 19:58.43 | abrotman | penrod: where is "shares/" ? |
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| 19:59.40 | abrotman | !qotd161 |
| 19:59.41 | dpkg | qotd161 is probably * asg sings the 'My Little Pony' song |
| 19:59.42 | penrod | here is the ouput of fdisk -l /dev/sda --> http://pastebin.ca/58114 |
| 19:59.58 | abrotman | penrod: and where is "shares/" ? |
| 20:00.20 | asg | !qotd167 |
| 20:00.20 | dpkg | qotd167 is, like, <dooglus> asg: the biggest package is linux-image-2.6.16-1-686. I don't do any image processing, so I think it's probably safe to remove that one. <asg> dooglus: that's the kernel |
| 20:00.21 | dvs | penrod: you have NTFS on a USB key? |
| 20:00.34 | abrotman | dvs: 50GB usb key? |
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| 20:01.04 | penrod | shares is a directory in the root partition, mounting poibt for sda1 |
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| 20:01.18 | dvs | abrotman: oh. That's a mighty big key. ;-). My mistake. |
| 20:01.39 | abrotman | hehe |
| 20:01.46 | jMCg | http://pastebin.ca/58112 and http://web.esotericsystems.at/websvn.txt -- added some comments which should outline the problem more accurately |
| 20:02.31 | Le_Vert | <asg> !qotd167 < ahahahahah |
| 20:02.52 | asg | Le_Vert: a nice gem from this past week :) |
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| 20:03.06 | leo__ | Hi everyone. I have problem while starting kde. I get error message "QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used'. I installed libqt3c102-mt recently, so I think it could have influenced. Can anybody give me an idea of fixing the problem? |
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| 20:03.46 | cahoot | leo__: how do you try start kde? |
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| 20:04.16 | row | I used xtermset -fg white -bg black -store ~/.xtermsetrc and then loaded a new xterm from debian menu (wmaker) and it still had default white with black text, whats causing that? |
| 20:04.26 | leo__ | i'm typing 'startx', inside .xinitrc i have 'exec startkde' |
| 20:04.29 | hjb | hi, my X11Forwarding from sshd doesn't work |
| 20:04.34 | hjb | i'm on debian stable |
| 20:05.01 | leo__ | sorry, 'startkde' only |
| 20:05.10 | junky | stew: a huge thanks for the help u gave me today. |
| 20:05.13 | hjb | are there any other packages apart from ssh that are needed for X11Forwarding? |
| 20:05.26 | stew | hjb: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 20:05.35 | stew | junky: you're welcome. don't know how much i helped though |
| 20:06.07 | junky | stew: apparently gnome-volume-manager is taking care of everything. |
| 20:06.17 | hjb | stew: :-) thanks |
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| 20:06.35 | tarzeau | WTF May 22 22:05:56 dove apt-index-watcher[8984]: SystemException: No such file or directory creating temporary file /var/lib/debtags/vocabulary.idx.QhiWov |
| 20:06.42 | tarzeau | i got those all 6 seconds |
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| 20:08.21 | Wanderer | anyone know a good link that explains building a kernel from sources with apt tools? |
| 20:08.31 | asg | Wanderer: /msg dpkg kp |
| 20:08.39 | RvGaTe | How do i know how many users are currently connected on the ftp... (vsftpd) |
| 20:08.40 | Wanderer | I don't want to rebuild from scratch |
| 20:08.42 | dvs | Wanderer: kp? |
| 20:08.44 | Wanderer | asg: thank |
| 20:08.49 | Wanderer | err, thanks |
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| 20:09.08 | Liquid_Ic | abrotman, what is the pty for an ssh session? |
| 20:09.24 | abrotman | look on your system .. i have no idea what it would be .. try 'w' |
| 20:09.29 | Liquid_Ic | ok |
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| 20:11.08 | Liquid_Ic | ttysnoop pts/1 isn't working out. |
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| 20:11.22 | hmakholm | I'm making the bold leap from lilo to grub. It seems to work fine, but I had to specify the installation partition manually on the grub-install command line. Where do I configure which bootblock a future updated grub package should install itself into? |
| 20:11.53 | prh | hmm a while ago a found a nice proggy that built up an index of all your image archives and then allowed you to flick through them really fast with a timeline selector - anyone know the one I'm talking about? (I can't think of it's name :O) |
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| 20:12.08 | cahoot | prh: imgseek? |
| 20:12.16 | dvs | hmakholm: I'd install grub wherever lilo is currently installed |
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| 20:12.24 | prh | cahoot: I'll try it - but thats not the one |
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| 20:13.12 | hmakholm | dvs: Sure, that is what I've done. But how do I tell the postinst of the next grub package where to install its updated boot sector? |
| 20:13.22 | RvGaTe | When no-one is connectted to my ftp, and i do "ps -A | grep vsftpd", it gives me back 1 result (seems fine), but when i connect to the ftp, 2 processes are added, both vsftpd (3 in total). What i dont understand is, why 2 processes for 1 connection? |
| 20:14.05 | hmakholm | (In fact the cuirrent grub package appears to have no postinst at all. How does the boot sector get updated?) |
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| 20:14.21 | stew | RvGaTe: who is runing the processes? is one root and the other with reduced privs? |
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| 20:14.31 | vahid | hi |
| 20:14.32 | prh | hmakholm: it doesnt - up to you |
| 20:14.52 | prh | hmakholm: it works on the principle of "don't shaft the boot process accidentally.." |
| 20:14.58 | RvGaTe | stew: doing ps -A using root, and connecting to ftp as normal user |
| 20:15.12 | dvs | hmakholm: the groot line in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file is where grub will be installed to |
| 20:15.19 | the_mule42 | how can i give rm a textfile with all the files i want removed? |
| 20:15.46 | prh | the_mule42: cat <file>|xargs rm |
| 20:15.54 | the_mule42 | thanks |
| 20:15.54 | prh | man xargs |
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| 20:16.00 | hmakholm | dvs: No such thing as 'groot' in my grub.info. |
| 20:16.09 | dvs | hmakholm: menu.list |
| 20:16.33 | prh | the_mule42: if the filenames contain spaces then you may want something like "cat file|while read a; do rm "$a"; done" |
| 20:16.37 | RvGaTe | stew: when 1 user is connected, process users are: root, nobody and upload |
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| 20:16.51 | RvGaTe | stew: upload is the user i connect with |
| 20:17.01 | hmakholm | prh: But wouldn't it _exactly_ shaft the boot process if a new grub package installed new grub stage-N files in /boot without updating the bootsector to work with them? |
| 20:17.01 | row | I have hda + hdb they make up a lvm parition + hda has /boot and hdb has my swap yet the parition table for hdb seems to not be there yet lvm works but I can't mount my swap space, what would you suggest? |
| 20:17.08 | vahid | Hello |
| 20:17.21 | ivorw | Hi, I'm having trouble getting an X session working to another box on my LAN. Both running sarge. |
| 20:17.49 | hmakholm | dvs: And the Grub manual in grub.info is supposed to document the commands I can put in menu.list, right? |
| 20:17.53 | prh | hmakholm: it doesn't install anything in boot... |
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| 20:18.16 | ivorw | Getting "port 6000: Connection refused" |
| 20:18.17 | dvs | hmakholm: where is this grub.info you're talking about? |
| 20:18.17 | prh | hmakholm: that would not be fhs compliant :O) |
| 20:18.46 | rigor | #rigor |
| 20:19.00 | hmakholm | prh: Hm, /boot/grub/ happens to be full of files that I didn't put there. I wonder how they got there, and what the command for updating them is if dpkg doesn't do it for me. |
| 20:19.07 | RvGaTe | stew: any ideas? |
| 20:19.27 | tarzeau | someone's ever built their own synthisizer? |
| 20:19.30 | prh | hmakholm: "install-grub" |
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| 20:19.45 | prh | hmakholm: they are copied from /lib/grub/somethingorother |
| 20:19.48 | dvs | hmakholm: update-grub |
| 20:19.56 | hmakholm | dvs: /usr/shar/doc/grub-doc/grub.info.gz - from the grub-doc package |
| 20:20.06 | hmakholm | s/shar/share/ |
| 20:20.47 | prh | dvs: update-grub only updates menu.lst no? |
| 20:20.49 | hmakholm | prh: Hm, I had gotten the impression that install-grub was for installing the boot sector. Back to reading manpages more closely, I think... |
| 20:20.57 | dvs | prh: yes, you're right |
| 20:21.10 | cobratbq | hi guys, does anyone know anything about a bug regarding not being able to mount DVDs? (2.6.16, testing fully-upgraded) (CDs still work) |
| 20:21.20 | prh | hmakholm: you are correct - but part of installed the bootsector is putting the 1.5/2nd stage sections into /boot/grub |
| 20:21.23 | cobratbq | Burning still works too |
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| 20:22.17 | vahid | hey, I can not login as non-root user. when I want to do this, I get "Unable to cd /home/vahid" |
| 20:22.30 | moshe | hi.. I need help in linux.. are there any people to help me |
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| 20:22.32 | hmakholm | prh: OK, so that avoids the out-of-sync problem I was worried about. But, say, security fixes in the bootloader will not automatically get pushed to my disk even if I "apt-get upgrade" them? |
| 20:22.32 | vahid | and it's not because of /home/vahid permissions |
| 20:22.36 | vahid | any opinions? |
| 20:22.54 | hebfftijd | mozilla browser crash always use flash any help needed |
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| 20:22.57 | prh | hmakholm: nope - you have to install-grub |
| 20:23.02 | moshe | uic was not found - set QTDIR put it in your PATH |
| 20:23.03 | ivorw | vahid: how about permissions on /home? |
| 20:23.14 | vahid | no, this is right |
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| 20:23.24 | moshe | what's version of mozzila do you use |
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| 20:23.30 | vahid | ivorw, it's 755 |
| 20:23.40 | Fale | hello |
| 20:23.40 | patterson | pht |
| 20:23.46 | prh | hmakholm: or "cp /lib/grub/*/* /boot/grub; grub /dev/<whatever>" then "root (hd0,0)" (or whatever) "setup (hd0)" or whaterver and "quit" |
| 20:24.10 | vahid | this problem occured when my partition filled |
| 20:24.16 | Fale | I have a ask non debian |
| 20:24.24 | hmakholm | prh: Aha. Well, thanks. |
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| 20:24.35 | vahid | and after rebooting, and making some room the problem was still annoying me |
| 20:24.36 | hebfftijd | mozilla 1.7.8 |
| 20:24.54 | prh | hmakholm: np |
| 20:24.55 | moshe | Is it necessary this version? |
| 20:25.02 | vahid | Fale, aks |
| 20:25.08 | vahid | Fale, ask |
| 20:25.15 | Fale | someone know javascript language? |
| 20:25.22 | ivorw | vahid: is /home on your root partition? |
| 20:25.27 | asg | Fale: #javascript might |
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| 20:25.36 | Fale | ty |
| 20:25.37 | vahid | Fale /join #javascript |
| 20:25.51 | moshe | I receive this message but i don't have any idea... |
| 20:25.52 | hebfftijd | mozilla 1.7.8 crash on using flash |
| 20:25.54 | vahid | ivorw, everything is on the same partiotion |
| 20:25.55 | moshe | uic was not found - set QTDIR put it in your PATH |
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| 20:26.50 | ivorw | hmmm puzzling. Is it symlinked? |
| 20:26.59 | cahoot | moshe: you run debian? |
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| 20:27.29 | moshe | cahoot: No.. I am using RHEL.. |
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| 20:27.49 | stew | RvGaTe: maybe it starts one as nobody for the active mode connection? i don't know. if you are just looking to find out how many are running you might use "netstat -n | grep :21" instead or something |
| 20:27.59 | cahoot | moshe: no good odds getting any help here then |
| 20:28.37 | moshe | This problem occured in Debian and others distro... |
| 20:28.44 | vahid | ivorw, no |
| 20:29.20 | moshe | I imagine it's necessary a special package... |
| 20:29.21 | ivorw | vahid: can root create files in /home/vahid? |
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| 20:31.31 | hebfftijd | where should i look for errors on flash |
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| 20:31.47 | jMCg | Problem solved - thanks to all who have contributed |
| 20:32.05 | k31th | jMCg: wats poppin |
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| 20:32.40 | RvGaTe | stew: thx |
| 20:33.13 | octagon_ | btw: anyone using totem to play dvds, and have that libdvdcss package installed aswell? |
| 20:33.13 | stew | jMCg: was it a bug in the package? |
| 20:33.25 | octagon_ | for some reason it seems like it can't really crack keys on some DVDs |
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| 20:33.39 | octagon_ | anyone else who's experiencing the same problem ? |
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| 20:35.00 | wam | Hi, I just installed a new sarge 3.1r2 and realized that it has a automounter running, which mounts all my usb-devs automatically. But I need a server-setup. How can I deactivate this? |
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| 20:36.48 | stew | wam: 3.1r2 doesn't install an automounter by default, did you install gnome? is gnome-volume-manager installed? |
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| 20:37.44 | cobratbq | hey guys, can someone help me with this message 'Attempt to access beyond end of device'? |
| 20:37.52 | setcode | hello |
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| 20:38.35 | wam | stew: gnome is installed and running, yes. |
| 20:39.06 | stew | wam: remove gnome-volume-manager, or remove all of gnome: /msg dpkg remove gnome |
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| 20:39.08 | wam | stew: gnome-volume-manager is installed |
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| 20:39.25 | stew | cobratbq: what were you doing when you got that error? |
| 20:39.25 | wam | stew: i need gnome. I'll remove the volume-manager. thanks. |
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| 20:39.53 | cobratbq | I was trying to mount a DVD... the weird thing is CDs do get mounted, and DVDs don't but I can write them |
| 20:40.00 | sSoSs | installed sarge this weekend with kernel 2.4 for amd athlon cpu "realtek 591nr" nic got recognised but i do not have network up ( home lan with masqeurading firewall) while with kernel 2.6 for amd athlon cpu no problem any advise on how to get things working with kernel 2.4 should i recompile kernel for some reason ? |
| 20:40.02 | cobratbq | got it from the kernel debug mesages |
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| 20:40.50 | cobratbq | I'm running debian ??? (testing... recently switched :P) 2.6.16-1-k7 |
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| 20:40.52 | dusty- | Hey guys I have just installed debian 3.1 r0 and i want to upgrade to sid, do i just change stable to unstable in /etc/apt/sources.lst and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade... by the way this is the BASE INSTALL of debian 3.1 r0 with no packages installed at all? |
| 20:40.55 | marvilleke | hi all there of you |
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| 20:41.21 | stew | dusty-: /msg dpkg iyhtays |
| 20:41.36 | marvilleke | maybe a question for some one ;-) |
| 20:41.54 | stew | cobratbq: i dunno. how were you trying to mount it? |
| 20:42.06 | marvilleke | well i cant find out to which my firewall is acyually logging to |
| 20:42.13 | cobratbq | using KDE and later manually using: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom |
| 20:42.36 | cobratbq | i've looked up /dev/hdc and that's correct |
| 20:42.54 | marvilleke | it's NOT in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/daemon.log or /var/log/dmesg |
| 20:43.01 | cobratbq | (btw. this is the 2nd DVD burner so it's not the hardware :P) |
| 20:43.03 | stew | cobratbq: are you sure that the dvd contains a iso9660 filesystem? have you tried with "-t auto" (or not specifying -t at all)? |
| 20:43.04 | marvilleke | can anyone give me a suggestion |
| 20:43.15 | hmakholm | dusty-: Well yes, but at any given time you should expect to need several rounds of dist-upgrading because of kinks in the upgrade path that haven't been ironed out yet. That's unstable for you. |
| 20:43.16 | kriel | okay, i've tried installing just gnome using the console, but it always complains about not having gtk. even after i reboot it, and i can't find anything in apt-get for gtk. |
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| 20:43.29 | rajulocal | Are you guys getting emails from d-u as usual? For some reason my mails stopped coming today. |
| 20:43.35 | stew | marvilleke: if its linux and iptables its /var/log/syslog unless you have changed /etc/syslog.conf |
| 20:43.48 | Wonko | I have updated xserver-xorg to 1:7.0.19 but I still cannot find any information if GeForce 6150 is supported. Could someone point me to where I can read that information? |
| 20:43.57 | hmakholm | kriel: What exactly are you doing, and what is the "it" that complains? |
| 20:44.02 | stew | kriel: what exactly is the error you are getting and how did you install gnome? |
| 20:44.37 | marvilleke | btw indeed i enabled the log part at the end of the rule |
| 20:44.41 | stew | Wonko: man nv |
| 20:45.05 | kriel | hmakholm: stew: ... wow. same reply. ... Anyway. install debian with no packages, and then 'apt-get install gnome' and it says... uhm... gtk not running, i believe. I can't remember exactly. |
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| 20:45.18 | marvilleke | okay stew i will take a look |
| 20:45.24 | marvilleke | hold on ;-) |
| 20:45.37 | hmakholm | kriel: Your next task is to _find_ the exact wording, then. |
| 20:45.59 | Wonko | stew: Well, I was told that the latest version should support 6150 but I have tried 'man nv | grep 6150' and I can't find anything |
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| 20:46.38 | marvilleke | Hi stew i did a ca /var/log/syslog |
| 20:46.48 | hmakholm | kriel: Did you ever answer a question about which frontend the installer should use to ask you question, and then answer something like "graphical frontend"? |
| 20:46.56 | marvilleke | and i did not altered my /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 20:47.23 | marvilleke | nothin is described there accorin cat /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 20:47.25 | stew | marvilleke: then the iptables logs go to /var/log/syslog |
| 20:47.28 | kriel | hmakholm: nope, it gave me a list of tasks, and then i just said 'desktop environment' ... but what I'm trying to do is install just the core, and then just gnome. |
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| 20:48.08 | brosioz | how can i update my date with ntp ? |
| 20:48.11 | hmakholm | kriel: I.e., you are NOT in graphical mode when you run apt-get? |
| 20:48.25 | cobratbq | stew: if I don't specify -t I get an error that i have to |
| 20:48.25 | cobratbq | stew: and auto doesn't work either |
| 20:48.29 | hmakholm | bronze: apt-get install ntpdate if you only want to do it occasionally, otherwise apt-get install ntp |
| 20:48.32 | kriel | hmakholm: nope. i'm at a console. |
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| 20:48.34 | stew | cobratbq: did you burn this dvd? |
| 20:48.40 | cobratbq | stew: yes |
| 20:49.04 | dvs | brosioz: that's a rhetorical questions. You shouldnt have to do anything if you installed the ntp package |
| 20:49.11 | stew | kriel: we need to know what error you are getting |
| 20:49.15 | cobratbq | stew: it just stopped recently... any idea of some sort of update that could cripple this? |
| 20:49.22 | brosioz | ntpdate |
| 20:49.23 | brosioz | 22 Jan 22:49:20 ntpdate[30758]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 20:49.26 | brosioz | i have it |
| 20:49.36 | cobratbq | stew: I've just updated mount (using unstable) just to be sure |
| 20:49.37 | stew | cobratbq: did you recently upgrade your kerenl? |
| 20:49.45 | kriel | stew: yeah... i kinda figured that. -soft sigh- kay, lemme see if i can find another computer to blow up. I'm starting to get tired of reinstalling on this one... |
| 20:49.53 | cobratbq | stew: not really, that's the weird thing :P |
| 20:49.57 | dvs | brosioz: oh? you want the config file for ntp to put in a time server |
| 20:50.06 | brosioz | yes |
| 20:50.17 | cobratbq | stew: I did update debianutils or so... |
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| 20:50.39 | stew | cobratbq: the only things that should be involved with mounting are mount and the kernel |
| 20:50.42 | hmakholm | kriel: Does it work to say "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=dialog apt-get install gnome" instead? |
| 20:50.57 | streuner | hmakholm: use TAB |
| 20:50.59 | stew | kriel: wait, you are having a problem running "apt-get install gnome"? |
| 20:51.04 | cobratbq | stew: hmmm... that's weird |
| 20:51.10 | dvs | brosioz: /etc/ntf.conf |
| 20:51.13 | hmakholm | streuner: That's what's broken. |
| 20:51.20 | streuner | haha |
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| 20:51.32 | cobratbq | stew: so updating the kernel to unstable is a good bet? |
| 20:51.43 | brosioz | dvs: not exist that file |
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| 20:52.04 | kriel | hmakholm: stew: gnome installs fine. all the packages (seem) to install. but when i try to run it after installing using 'exec session-gnome' iirc... it gives an error about gtk |
| 20:52.05 | hmakholm | streuner: I type bro<TAB> to reply to brosioz, and it completes to "bronze" |
| 20:52.06 | stew | cobratbq: have you tried other dvds? if you didn't upgrade your kernel since it worked then you shouldn't have to change your kernel now |
| 20:52.15 | dvs | brosioz: and the ntp package is installed? |
| 20:52.19 | stew | kriel: why can't you just show us the error? |
| 20:52.22 | brosioz | dvs: yes |
| 20:52.30 | streuner | hmakholm: well, i get two options here |
| 20:52.32 | dvs | brosioz: apt-get --reinstall install ntp |
| 20:52.36 | hmakholm | kriel: Ah, that is something completely different. |
| 20:52.38 | cobratbq | stew: I have tried a DVD-R and DVD+R they both don't mount, I've tried a CD and it does mount, I'm gonna try an original DVD now... |
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| 20:52.54 | kriel | stew: because it was using this computer... i gave up on it and just installed using desktop environment, but i'm trying to figure out WHY it didn't work. |
| 20:53.00 | dvs | brosioz: or dpkg-reconfigure ntp |
| 20:53.12 | cobratbq | stew: btw I hadn't even restarted in a long time :P |
| 20:54.08 | cobratbq | stew: an original DVD works just fine :-s |
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| 20:54.34 | hmakholm | kriel: Does your error include the phrase "could not initialize the graphical user interface"? |
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| 20:54.38 | rockdonus | hi i was messign with loadkeys and now when i hit ^ i have to hit it twice |
| 20:54.40 | cobratbq | stew: do the DVD+RW-Tools have something to do with this? |
| 20:54.42 | rockdonus | im using loadkeys us, how to get it back to how i just have to hit ^ once? |
| 20:54.45 | rockdonus | same goes for apostrophe |
| 20:54.49 | rockdonus | and quotation mark |
| 20:55.05 | kriel | hmakholm: ... Uhm... maybe...? ... |
| 20:55.41 | hmakholm | kriel: Well, you're really not giving us anything to go by, are you? |
| 20:55.46 | row | how long do you recon gpart will take to run on a 120gb ide 8mb cache hdd? |
| 20:55.49 | Wonko | stew: Do you have any idea where I could find that information? |
| 20:55.53 | row | run=scan |
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| 20:57.08 | kriel | hmakholm: sorry... x.x... i'm gonna go dig up an old hard drive and see what that error is word for word... |
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| 20:57.24 | stew | cobratbq: with burning but not with mounting |
| 20:57.34 | hmakholm | kriel: Why would you need an old hard drive in order to see the error message? |
| 20:57.43 | cobratbq | stew: I was afraid you were gonna say that ... |
| 20:57.47 | kriel | hmakholm: because i don't want to reformat this one again. |
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| 20:57.54 | stew | Wonko: 'man nv' should list the chipsets it supports, if it doesn't, perhaps a bug should be filed |
| 20:58.08 | kriel | hmakholm: this hard drive has had linux installed on it probably a dozen times in the last week. |
| 20:58.10 | stew | cobratbq: can you mount this on another machine? can you mount a different dvd? |
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| 20:58.36 | hmakholm | kriel: Why would you need to reformat anything to see the error message you are getting? |
| 20:58.49 | cobratbq | stew: At the moment I can't mount DVD I've always been able to mount... and they all work on my windows-pc |
| 20:59.21 | deadcat | then use windows-pc |
| 20:59.32 | kriel | hmakholm: because i can't reproduce it. I gave up trying to install gnome from the console, and just reinstalled, telling it to install gnome that way. but like I said, I've 'fixed' the problem (let the installer just do it) but I want to know WHY it wouldn't work. |
| 20:59.45 | cobratbq | deadcat: If everything could be solved that easily :P |
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| 21:00.20 | deadcat | cobratbq: well. you cant argue with result though (= |
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| 21:00.34 | GoAuLd | when xorg 7 in etch _ |
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| 21:00.55 | cobratbq | deadcat: won't even try :P |
| 21:00.58 | stew | GoAuLd: /msg dpkg why is xserver-xorg not in testing |
| 21:01.12 | GoAuLd | ok |
| 21:01.18 | hmakholm | kriel: Well, at least you have learned today to always write down error messages that you want advice on later. |
| 21:02.05 | Wonko | stew: I was on this IRC a last week and somebody (could be you?) said that there was a note in the change log about added support for 6150 but I can not find it. Is it possible to look at log files for this IRC? |
| 21:02.13 | kriel | hmakholm: yeah, tell me about it. Xx; Thanks for trying. -nods gently- |
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| 21:02.46 | stew | Wonko: sorry, i don't have such log files |
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| 21:02.57 | GoAuLd | thats a lot of things to do |
| 21:03.10 | stew | Wonko: "man nv" doesn't list the stuff it supports? |
| 21:03.19 | GoAuLd | damn |
| 21:03.54 | stew | Wonko: what does "lspci | grep VGA" output? |
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| 21:05.15 | _ericb | hey what's going on with XFS quota support ? webmin quota tool don't and the 'quota' application doesn't really seems to support quota fully |
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| 21:05.32 | sandman | apt-get source doesn't seem to search my unstable deb-src lines.. is there a way to fix this? |
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| 21:05.51 | chealer | Wonko: I told you it was supported since 8174 |
| 21:05.55 | stew | sandman: it should. have you run apt-get update? |
| 21:05.59 | sandman | I have testing and unstable deb-src lines, but it only seems to grab from testing. |
| 21:06.03 | sandman | Yes. |
| 21:06.05 | xomhau | hi all |
| 21:06.29 | Wonko | stew: lspci | grep VGA gives: 0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] (rev a2) |
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| 21:06.55 | Wonko | chealer: Is that the legacy drivers? |
| 21:07.17 | stew | Wonko: i dunno then, the manpage says: GeForce 6XXX NV40, NV41, NV43, NV44, NV45. i don't know how to figure out if you have one of those |
| 21:07.34 | dvs | stew: 6150? |
| 21:07.38 | dvs | 6XXX |
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| 21:08.02 | cobratbq | stew: new kernel didn't help either... any specific kernel modules that need to be loaded? (isofs => used by 0) |
| 21:08.05 | stew | dvs: right, that's why i put that line out there, how do you know if he has a NV40 or NV41 or what? |
| 21:08.23 | chealer | Wonko: no, it's an old version of the "current" drivers, |
| 21:08.27 | dvs | stew: Oh. That wasn't part of the manpage |
| 21:08.29 | stew | cobratbq: no. mount will load whatever modules need to be loaded |
| 21:08.38 | jif | damn, my poor nv35 seems ancient now... |
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| 21:09.19 | xomhau | anyone,sometime i forgot exit from shell ( when su ) , how to auto exit after 5min if i don't run any commands? |
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| 21:09.53 | Wonko | chealer: The version I have installed now is: (II) NVIDIA X Driver 1.0-8756 Wed Mar 29 14:29:06 PST 2006 |
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| 21:10.16 | stew | ugh he was talking about non-free drivers all along |
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| 21:10.43 | abrotman | xomhau: i think if you try to do that .. it will exit both shells |
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| 21:11.38 | Wonko | chealer: It now seems to recognize my GPU but the error I get now is: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
| 21:11.40 | k31th | wats the default grp for apache2 in deb ? |
| 21:12.31 | jlello | #flood |
| 21:12.31 | jlello | sorry |
| 21:12.38 | abrotman | Wonko: look farther up |
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| 21:13.17 | jlello | right, how do I get to channel's guidelines, pls? |
| 21:13.25 | chealer | Wonko: which chipset is it? |
| 21:13.31 | Wonko | abrotman: What should I look for? |
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| 21:13.37 | xomhau | abrotman: what solution for me? |
| 21:13.45 | xomhau | sorry my english not well |
| 21:13.56 | abrotman | xomhau: i don't know of one .. but i'm sure they exist .. but as i said .. i think it would kill both shells |
| 21:14.01 | abrotman | Wonko: another error ? |
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| 21:14.41 | Wonko | chealer: A GeForce 6150 integrated GPU |
| 21:14.55 | chealer | Wonko: it should have a chipset |
| 21:14.59 | abrotman | xomhau: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/06/msg00252.html |
| 21:15.18 | xomhau | abrotman: thank u |
| 21:15.27 | abrotman | xomhau: man bash .. search for TMOUT |
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| 21:15.51 | abrotman | xomhau: but it may kill both .. you'll have to test a bit i guess |
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| 21:16.02 | abrotman | dvs: i found it !!! |
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| 21:17.25 | Wonko | chealer: Do you mean nForce 430? |
| 21:18.16 | chealer | Wonko: what does $ lspci|grep VGA; return? |
| 21:18.31 | cobratbq | stew: OMG! My old DVD-burner can read DVDs but can't write... and my new DVD-burner can write DVDs but can't read :p |
| 21:18.47 | cobratbq | stew: sorry, I just couldn't believe that it's a problem of a new DVD burner :-S |
| 21:19.01 | cobratbq | stew: It hadn't even crossed my mind |
| 21:19.06 | stew | cobratbq: they sound like a good match for eachother |
| 21:19.09 | abrotman | cobratbq: incompatible DVD+- types ? |
| 21:19.18 | Wonko | chealer: lspci | grep VGA gives: 0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] (rev a2) |
| 21:19.19 | cobratbq | stew: :P |
| 21:19.40 | cobratbq | abrotman: Nope the NEC can't read any DVD + or - |
| 21:19.46 | abrotman | throw it out! |
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| 21:19.53 | cobratbq | yeah i figured :P |
| 21:20.06 | Wonko | I now got it working although with a very flickering output |
| 21:20.09 | cobratbq | well.. that's no problem, hadn't payed for it yet... I work in a computer shop :P |
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| 21:20.47 | abrotman | Wonko: have you asked #nvidia ? |
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| 21:21.13 | axolx | question: how do i exclude a certain subfolder from being searched with "find"? |
| 21:21.13 | ttso | hi |
| 21:21.16 | chealer | Wonko: the chipset seems to be C51, which isn't mentioned in man nv. on the other hand, "GeForce 6XXX" should be supported, so I'm not sure what to conclude. what happens if you try nv? |
| 21:21.41 | ttso | hello |
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| 21:21.47 | ttso | :) |
| 21:22.24 | stew | chealer: it seems he's using the non-free driver, not the free driver |
| 21:22.27 | abrotman | axolx: man find .. |
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| 21:22.55 | stew | axolx: look up the -path and -prune options |
| 21:23.05 | abrotman | cheddar! |
| 21:23.32 | Wonko | abrotman: No, but I will do that. |
| 21:23.56 | stew | Wonko: do you need 3d accelleration? |
| 21:23.59 | chealer | Wonko / stew : I'm trying to answer to your first question. if you're asking specifically about the non-free drivers, please tell us. |
| 21:24.54 | Wonko | chealer: With nv it says: No device detected |
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| 21:25.04 | abrotman | Wonko: weren't you asking about this last week? |
| 21:25.16 | abrotman | it's a 6150 or whatever? |
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| 21:25.23 | Wonko | stew: No I don't need 3d since it's for an HTPC |
| 21:25.24 | dvs | !prize abrotman |
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| 21:25.33 | Wonko | abrotman: Yes I did... |
| 21:25.36 | Norbert_ | hi all, question: is it possible to use dd to extract an .img file to a harddisk (instead of a device)? |
| 21:25.40 | abrotman | I GOT THE PONY! |
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| 21:25.57 | chealer | Wonko: well, I guess it's not supported then. you can always ask #xorg for more information about nv's support |
| 21:25.58 | abrotman | Norbert_: isn't the .img already on the HDD ? |
| 21:26.14 | L0rd | q |
| 21:26.18 | Norbert_ | abrotman: eh, yeah, I want to extract it |
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| 21:26.35 | Wonko | The problem back then was that I used Debian Etch. Now I sill use Etch but have installed xserver-xorg and a few more from testing. |
| 21:26.48 | Norbert_ | abrotman: I don't have a cd-rom or dvd burn-thingy, but I want to extract the .img |
| 21:27.04 | dvs | Wonko: if you're using etch then everything is from testing |
| 21:27.22 | Wonko | chealer: But I just had it working! See my message from 23:20 |
| 21:27.38 | Wonko | dvs: Oh, sorry. I ment unstable |
| 21:28.11 | chealer | Wonko: oh, using nv? |
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| 21:29.19 | axolx | stew: thanks |
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| 21:29.40 | Wonko | chealer: No, nvidia |
| 21:29.44 | cobratbq | stew: (and others) thanks for helping me... I'm gonna help myself to a new device ;) |
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| 21:30.09 | Wonko | I did the one-liner that I was recommended last week. |
| 21:30.20 | chealer | Wonko: nvidia should indeed support that card according to the documentation |
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| 21:30.42 | Remo_A | I wonder: having followed a good tutorial on how to get java supported on any browsers it just works in firefox and not konqueror, see the commands I did here: http://www.pcwelt.de/wiki/index.php/Java_unter_Debian |
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| 21:30.53 | Remo_A | using debian 2.6.12 |
| 21:31.34 | Remo_A | used the sun-jre |
| 21:32.08 | chealer | Remo_A: that looks like a Deutsch-only page. ask #debian-kde |
| 21:32.30 | stew | does konkeror support a java-plugin? |
| 21:32.39 | Remo_A | I'm sorry, I assume, you can follow the three lines of code(which are english, the rest is of no importance anyway), sorry for my cheekyness *g |
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| 21:32.56 | Remo_A | stew, it should, imho |
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| 21:33.08 | stew | Remo_A: i agree with your opinion |
| 21:33.08 | Remo_A | at least I can remember konqueror-releases which did... |
| 21:33.38 | stew | Remo_A: the procedure you followed is the recomended procedure for isntalling a non-free jre |
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| 21:33.48 | chealer | Remo_A: it's not just commands for konqueror though (unless there would be a complex script to avoid a few clicks) |
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| 21:34.02 | Remo_A | chealer, not there, no |
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| 21:34.09 | Wonko | chealer: Yes, so it seems. I have now modified my settings and the picture quality is improved. But unfortunately it is in black and white only. I send the output to a TV |
| 21:34.39 | k31th | wats the default grp for apache2 in deb ? |
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| 21:35.22 | chealer | Wonko: ...if you want support with the nvidia driver outside of the driver installation, ask #nvidia |
| 21:35.22 | kriel | does anybody know a command to check for bad sectors on a hard drive? |
| 21:35.28 | k31th | badblocks |
| 21:35.39 | k31th | its not a cmd its a program :p |
| 21:35.41 | Remo_A | chealer: but it works in firefox perfectly, so I assume, konqueror doesn't look into enough PATH's for the accodring links |
| 21:36.03 | chealer | Remo_A: it's related to that, yes |
| 21:36.19 | jjazz | k31th: www-data |
| 21:36.26 | k31th | tu |
| 21:36.34 | abrotman | jjazz: ready to go down?!!?!? |
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| 21:37.16 | jjazz | abrotman: Man, only sox fans would kick us when we're down and crow about it. :P |
| 21:37.17 | Wonko | chealer: OK, I will do that |
| 21:37.34 | Wonko | Thanks to all who helped me! |
| 21:37.36 | abrotman | jjazz: yeah .. you know .. yankees fans would do the same to the sox :) |
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| 21:38.25 | bunghole_ | screw baseball, cricket pwns baseball |
| 21:38.26 | bunghole_ | ;) |
| 21:38.26 | jjazz | abrotman: Oh, we'd take the win and be quietly smug, but there wouldn't be so much public glee in the misfortune of our opposition. Remember, this is the team that refused to bunt against The Ankle (TM). |
| 21:38.30 | Remo_A | chealer: so far so good. Do you by any chance know how I can make konqueror see the light? :) |
| 21:38.41 | bunghole_ | why is my nickname so different |
| 21:38.44 | chealer | Remo_A: ask #debian-kde, please |
| 21:38.49 | Remo_A | ok |
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| 21:39.06 | stoned | hey what is services mode +e |
| 21:39.08 | jjazz | abrotman: (actually, I thought not bunting was a horrible decision, but I'm making a point here, so we'll ignore my hypocrisy) |
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| 21:42.15 | abrotman | jjazz: you guys are never smug :) |
| 21:43.16 | jjazz | abrotman: It's hard to be smug when you drop 2 of 3 to the Mets. At least we're still Pedro's daddy. |
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| 21:44.24 | cobratbq | hey guys... i'm back :( |
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| 21:45.04 | abrotman | jjazz: i blame the groundskeepers!@ |
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| 21:45.12 | matteoroxx | hi all |
| 21:45.16 | cobratbq | does someone have an idea on why a DVD (recordable) does work in the same DVD burner when connected to Windows-PC and doesn't work when connected to a Linux-PC ... and it's not the hardware |
| 21:45.27 | cobratbq | I'm talking about reading not writing |
| 21:45.27 | matteoroxx | i have a 'cinergy 400 usb' peripheral |
| 21:45.28 | dust | can any help with nvidia options? |
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| 21:45.51 | matteoroxx | is a tv tuner usb..chipset is saa7134 (fully supported) |
| 21:45.57 | liran_ | how do i run linux init 3 or 4 from grub? |
| 21:45.58 | chealer | dust: maybe you should ask #debian-fr |
| 21:46.18 | jjazz | abrotman: Yeah, you and Edgar. |
| 21:46.22 | matteoroxx | but usb receiver isn't 'light up'. and system doesn't recognize it..how can i do ? |
| 21:46.32 | dust | okay thnx |
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| 21:47.48 | dust | chealer: i just joined it and it seems to be french. |
| 21:48.04 | chealer | dust: what's your native language? |
| 21:48.12 | dust | english |
| 21:48.17 | abrotman | jjazz: no .. he blames the sox groundskeepers .. pedro blames the yankees' groundskeepers |
| 21:48.35 | chealer | dust: hum, OK. I don't understand your question then |
| 21:48.42 | foo_ | Err, I run irssi in a screen. I can change the size of the terminal and do ctrl+a+F to have irssi refit to the screen ... so I know that works, but I can't type anything. It's like irssi froze. This has happened several times over the past month and it's really starting to bug me. Any ideas on what to do? I still have it frozen right now... I've checked logs, nothing |
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| 21:49.23 | stew | foo_: if you leave it for a long time, does it eventually unfreeze? like after 5 minutes or so? |
| 21:49.38 | dust | so here's the story: i'm setting up nvidia twinview and/or tvout, in the wiki it tells me to set the meta modes to things like 800x600, 800x600, (one set for each monitor?) but what if you want the monitors to have different resolutions can you 640x480, 800x600? |
| 21:49.55 | foo_ | stew: hm, I'll tell you in 5 minutes. I always lose patience and just kill the window |
| 21:50.03 | dust | i was on the ubuntu channel but was told to come here |
| 21:50.05 | pyroplasm | foo_: use a different escape sequence than ctrl+a in screen |
| 21:50.09 | orchid | foo_: you didn't hit ctrl+a+s by mistake did you? |
| 21:50.23 | chealer | dust: if you use Ubuntu, you shouldn't ask here |
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| 21:50.27 | stew | foo_: my irssi sometimes freezes for a few minutes at a time, but i don't know a way to reproduce it reliably, if you did that would be great |
| 21:50.29 | foo_ | orchid: Maybe. How could I undue that? |
| 21:50.29 | jjazz | foo_: I run irssi in a screen in a terminal. I can resize with no problems. Cntrl-L redraws the screen and the rest takes care of itself, no need of cntrl-f at all. |
| 21:50.38 | orchid | foo_: ctrl+a+q |
| 21:51.04 | dust | yah but ubuntu is connected to debian and i was told that people here might be able to help |
| 21:51.09 | dust | that isn't true? |
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| 21:51.18 | foo_ | hm |
| 21:51.23 | itc | hey how do I enable ip forward in debian 3.1 |
| 21:51.23 | itc | ? |
| 21:51.30 | abrotman | dust: you should go to #ubuntu |
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| 21:51.39 | jjazz | abrotman: All I know is tonight is I'll be happy to see Sheff back. I think tonight is the night. :) |
| 21:51.40 | stew | foo_: ctrl-a-F doesn't freeze mine, btw |
| 21:51.43 | foo_ | err, looks like the whole screen just froze now. I can't attach it. bleh. /me kills screen and all windows |
| 21:51.49 | chealer | dust: it's possible that we could help you, but we're not here to do that. this is a Debian support channel |
| 21:51.50 | abrotman | jjazz: i thought it was tomorrow night |
| 21:52.08 | jjazz | abrotman: I'm not sure. You might be right. I haven't seen today's papers. |
| 21:52.31 | abrotman | jjazz: either way .. he should be back before the end of the series .. but i wouldn't be surprised to see him tonight .. they said he took BP on sunday |
| 21:52.41 | dust | okay well thanks |
| 21:52.43 | jjazz | abrotman: We need him. |
| 21:52.58 | abrotman | jjazz: you need more than him :) |
| 21:53.11 | abrotman | jjazz: a decent starter would really help you guys |
| 21:53.16 | k31th | ok if im vhosting, does the dir im using for the vhost need to be owned by apache ? |
| 21:53.24 | dust | i'll be sure to not-help-someone-even-if-i-could next time someone asks |
| 21:53.25 | abrotman | nope |
| 21:53.30 | jjazz | abrotman: He's a big piece. |
| 21:53.31 | k31th | can apache2 read dirs owned by root ? |
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| 21:53.36 | itc | hey how do I enable ip forward in debian 3.1 ? |
| 21:53.46 | abrotman | k31th: as long as perms are correct |
| 21:53.47 | stew | itc: edit /etc/network/options |
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| 21:56.01 | k31th | bit confused here. I have installed moodle, and im running apache2.... However when i hit up the webserver it bitches... www.blah.com/moodle access denied |
| 21:56.21 | k31th | yet its created the file in /etc/apache2/conf.d/moodle |
| 21:57.06 | tarzeau | abrotman: you'll stay here or move to oftc? |
| 21:57.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: eh? |
| 21:57.41 | stew | tarzeau: was there a definitive decree about that? |
| 21:57.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: noone likes me anywhere i go .. will it matter? :) |
| 21:58.22 | tarzeau | stew: yes, 4th june |
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| 21:58.34 | tarzeau | abrotman: who can i harass when you are gone? |
| 21:58.47 | jjazz | abrotman: Where you going? |
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| 21:59.24 | abrotman | jjazz: there's discussion about having irc.debian.org point to oftc instead of freenode |
| 21:59.45 | stew | tarzeau: on -project? |
| 21:59.46 | jjazz | abrotman: Why? |
| 21:59.56 | abrotman | jjazz: more than one reason from what i can tell |
| 22:00.07 | jjazz | abrotman: You have a link to the discussion? |
| 22:00.35 | abrotman | jjazz: http://www.us.debian.org/News/weekly/2006/19/ .. for starters |
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| 22:01.05 | FaeLLe | what would be the quickest way to setup a www proxy server on a box ? |
| 22:01.15 | abrotman | jjazz: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/05/msg00001.html |
| 22:01.23 | iter | FaeLLe: squid? |
| 22:01.24 | cureless | FaeLLe: buy a premade proxy |
| 22:01.35 | FaeLLe | i want to watch the ABC streaming tv ep's |
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| 22:01.40 | FaeLLe | i have a coloc in US |
| 22:01.47 | iter | apt-get install squid |
| 22:01.49 | FaeLLe | so want to tunnel my port 80 through that machine |
| 22:02.06 | abrotman | jjazz: The reason in DWN seems weak to me .. but whatever .. i'm not a DD |
| 22:02.07 | FaeLLe | mr iter i am not to have root priviliges |
| 22:02.26 | iter | why not just tunnel via ssh then |
| 22:02.39 | gnufan | Nautilus -- doing nasty things when I create a ".swf" file. How do I stop it trying to preview a specific type of file? How do I fix sids SWF renderer? |
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| 22:03.04 | jjazz | abrotman: It doesn't really matter to me... it's not hard to have irssi open a new connection. It seems like a low-impact decision either way. |
| 22:03.32 | cureless | FaeLLe: you can compile squid. |
| 22:03.32 | FaeLLe | iter: forward local port to abc.com port 80 ? |
| 22:03.58 | FaeLLe | cureless: was kinda hoping for a easier method but yea :p |
| 22:04.10 | iter | http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/jp107/xp-remote/web-tunnel/ |
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| 22:04.26 | foo | Can someone tell me what the point of ctrl+a is ? |
| 22:04.31 | foo | ctrl+s , I mean |
| 22:04.46 | FaeLLe | dunno but cntrl+a+d logs me out |
| 22:05.10 | abrotman | jjazz: i guess .. dunno if i would stay on freenode or follow irc.d.o .. but oh well |
| 22:05.15 | dondelelcaro | foo: if you've ever been on a connection with data streaming by faster than you can read it, you'd know. |
| 22:05.17 | js_ | foo: lol, i think you got many people who dont know about ctrl+q to try it |
| 22:05.53 | gnufan | foo is you mean stop the scrolling, it stops the scrolling -- but yes rather defeated by modern scroll buffers. |
| 22:05.54 | tarzeau | stew: no idea, some debian ml |
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| 22:06.03 | foo | I see. |
| 22:07.56 | stew | dondelelcaro: do you know if a decision has been made to actually switch irc.d.o to oftc? i have only seen discussion, nothing definitive. |
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| 22:09.46 | gnufan | foo: ancient stuff, when stuff scrolled by at 9600baud if you were lucky, and scroll buffers were used by ram hogs, but no one dare break it in case something or someone relies on it. |
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| 22:09.53 | FaeLLe | mr iter but what do i enter instead of the wwwcache ? |
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| 22:11.21 | chealer | stew: I think the latest on that is Steve's I2C bits |
| 22:11.44 | stew | chealer: yeah, found that one: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00003.html it says "more discussion" however |
| 22:11.51 | chealer | stew: if it would be decided, it would be announced on d-d-a and/or DWN for sure |
| 22:11.51 | foo | gnufan: ahh, thanks |
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| 22:12.18 | stew | chealer: yeah, i would expect so |
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| 22:13.20 | zwik | how can i generate ssh keys (rsa and dsa) for another box ? |
| 22:13.50 | zwik | or must i generate the keys on the box where they belong ? |
| 22:14.05 | stew | chealer: ok, someone on #emacs just said they just received such a d-d-a email (but i still haven't yet) |
| 22:14.09 | dli | zwik, yes, login there, and ssh-keygen |
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| 22:14.36 | dli | zwik, or you can scp the keys over |
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| 22:15.09 | zwik | dli: there is no ssh-server running yet because it takes like 3 days to generate new keys on that box.. |
| 22:15.13 | chealer | stew: me neither, but I see it in the lists archive |
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| 22:15.34 | zwik | dli: so i wanted to generate them on a faster box |
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| 22:16.04 | chealer | ...move to OFTC Sunday the 4th of June |
| 22:16.23 | dli | zwik, it's a remote box? |
| 22:16.24 | chealer | </NEWS FLASH> |
| 22:16.30 | zwik | dli: yes |
| 22:16.30 | DrBanzai | What does it mean when my install hangs at freeing kernel memory? |
| 22:16.57 | dli | DrBanzai, no init ? |
| 22:17.00 | stew | hrm |
| 22:17.17 | D-N-A | hello guys , i installed php5,,apache2 and when i write code in pho , i localhost display the source code not the web page ? what gonna i do ? |
| 22:17.26 | dli | zwik, install ssh first |
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| 22:17.41 | zwik | dli: thatĆĀ“ s allready done |
| 22:17.57 | DrBanzai | dli. I'm not sure. I put the install cd in, and it boots from it, and uncompresses the kernel and what not, and then it gets stuck on freeing kernel memory |
| 22:18.05 | dli | zwik, ssh login to it, and ssh-keygen |
| 22:18.09 | DrBanzai | And this is on a Sun Sparc, btw |
| 22:18.19 | zwik | dli: i canĆĀ“ t login. thereĆĀ“ s no keys ;) |
| 22:18.48 | dli | zwik, you can login by passwd |
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| 22:18.56 | chealer | D-N-A: is libapache2-mod-php5 installed? |
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| 22:19.08 | D-N-A | chealer: yea |
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| 22:19.22 | zwik | dli: i can login via telnet (yes i know) but i donĆĀ“ t want to gen the keys on that ox because itĆĀ“ s too slow |
| 22:19.25 | chealer | D-N-A: did you restart apache2 after that? |
| 22:19.31 | zwik | box* |
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| 22:19.41 | D-N-A | chealer: sure |
| 22:20.03 | D-N-A | chealer: i 'm using debian Sid , and i got this problem every time, i dunno why |
| 22:20.08 | chealer | D-N-A: did you restart your browser or refresh the pages you used to test PHP since apache was restarted? |
| 22:20.25 | chealer | D-N-A: oh, I don't know about sid |
| 22:20.25 | dli | zwik, what's the cpu ? |
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| 22:20.47 | zwik | dli: dunno exactly. Some Sparc 4m box |
| 22:21.02 | zwik | dli: slow ;) |
| 22:21.33 | D-N-A | chealer: i did this, r u intrested in php ? |
| 22:21.53 | chealer | !u |
| 22:21.54 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 22:22.20 | dli | zwik, I don't think it takes 3 days for keys |
| 22:22.20 | chealer | D-N-A: if I'm interested in PHP? I'm not sure why you ask that |
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| 22:22.41 | zwik | dli: i started key-gen last friday. and itĆĀ“ s still busy ;) |
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| 22:22.52 | D-N-A | chealer: can you check my httpd.conf file ? |
| 22:23.24 | chealer | D-N-A: if you make it available, I may check it |
| 22:23.34 | D-N-A | chealer: ok , i'll paste it |
| 22:24.44 | jjazz | zwik: Generate the keys on another box and then transfer them over. I don't understand what part of this you're having trouble with. |
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| 22:25.20 | dli | zwik, takes 100% cpu in "top" ? |
| 22:25.26 | zwik | dli: yes |
| 22:25.50 | zwik | jjazz: in the .pub file thereĆĀ“ s a hostname. I donĆĀ“ t know if this is in the actual key aswell. |
| 22:26.00 | setcode | is hdparm recommanded to tunn HD |
| 22:26.03 | setcode | ? |
| 22:26.05 | dli | zwik, kill it, go to openssh.org, get the source, compile it, and try |
| 22:26.06 | jjazz | Ah, so it's in the generation part. |
| 22:26.21 | setcode | because apt-get recommed me to install apmd too.. |
| 22:26.34 | zwik | dli: been there, done that. IĆĀ“ m busy for a month now ;) |
| 22:26.34 | D-N-A | chealer: check pvt |
| 22:26.45 | jjazz | zwik: I've moved keys between boxes and they've worked, so my guess is it's not encoded. |
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| 22:27.08 | zwik | allright, i give it a try |
| 22:27.15 | mirak | does most of proxies like squid block every out port other than :80 for http or is it most often just https ports that are restricted to 443 ? |
| 22:27.15 | jjazz | zwik: Good luck. |
| 22:27.21 | zwik | thank you |
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| 22:27.29 | chealer | D-N-A: that won't help much, but please paste to somewhere public instead. you should rather check mods-enabled |
| 22:27.38 | elliptic | "end_request: I/O error, dev hde, sector 22997047" disk problem or just a problem of bad sector ? |
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| 22:31.15 | epsilon | does anyone know of a globus map under WikiCommons/CreativeCommons/PublicDomain? |
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| 22:31.25 | dli | elliptic, bad sector is a disk problem :( |
| 22:31.52 | johnsu01 | What is responsible for creating /dev/fuse? sshfs was working fine the other day, but now is failing because that device doesn't exist. |
| 22:32.06 | johnsu01 | modprobe fuse I guess. |
| 22:32.07 | elliptic | dli: yes of course I want to say the whole disk will die |
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| 22:33.05 | stew | johnsu01: if you installed ivman you got hal and therefore udev, so you have a dynamic dev now |
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| 22:33.20 | nekron- | unable to open wrapper config file... user not authorized to use x Server |
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| 22:33.36 | nekron- | what is this? |
| 22:33.52 | johnsu01 | stew: haven't actually installed ivman yet. |
| 22:33.52 | stew | nekron-: look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 22:34.18 | stew | johnsu01: to answer your question then, if you have udev installed, udev is responsible for creating /dev/* |
| 22:34.40 | nekron- | stew not found |
| 22:34.58 | nekron- | i can start using root, but when i try with user i can't |
| 22:34.59 | johnsu01 | stew: yeah. but the /dev/fuse device is not created unless I modprobe fuse. |
| 22:35.08 | stew | nekron-: what version of debian are you running? |
| 22:35.13 | stew | johnsu01: right, that's how udev works |
| 22:35.15 | nekron- | stew sid |
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| 22:35.28 | johnsu01 | stew: yep. So I'll just add that to modules and be happy. |
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| 22:36.18 | plb | anyone tell me how to clean out stale dependencies? |
| 22:36.32 | nekron- | stew what i do? |
| 22:36.37 | nekron- | :( |
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| 22:37.09 | stew | nekron-: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
| 22:37.30 | stew | but installing x11-common really should have created that file for you |
| 22:37.39 | stew | nekron-: what version of x11-common do you have installed? |
| 22:38.07 | nekron- | stew how i see? |
| 22:38.34 | stew | !wikifaq nekron- PackageManagement |
| 22:38.34 | dpkg | nekron-: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PackageManagement or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 22:38.47 | elliptic | is it possible to run badblocks on ntfs partition ? |
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| 22:38.57 | D-N-A | chealer: http://pastebin.com/732053 |
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| 22:39.14 | nekron- | stew the lastest version cause i installed debian today |
| 22:39.56 | stew | nekron-: you installed debian today and already upgraded to unstable but dont' even know how to check the version of an installed package? |
| 22:40.00 | stew | nekron-: checked the bts? |
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| 22:41.06 | Shadowcat | stew: he's in BIG trouble |
| 22:41.16 | nekron- | stew i always use --version, but i know that with dpkg i can too.. or not? o.0 |
| 22:41.27 | dli | elliptic, yes, it's based on sectors, but I think ntfs can handle badblocks |
| 22:42.03 | stew | elliptic: badblocks is device based, it has no knowledge of the underlying filesystem, you can run it on any partition |
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| 22:42.17 | elliptic | dli: stew thanks |
| 22:43.01 | dli | elliptic, I mean you should use windows to handle badblocks, but first, backup valuable data on it |
| 22:43.19 | elliptic | dli: ok |
| 22:43.36 | stew | dli: why use windows? |
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| 22:46.07 | dli | stew, because ntfs is designed to handle badblocks correctly |
| 22:47.22 | Shadowcat | ntfs is designed to be crappy and slow |
| 22:47.44 | stew | i doubt it |
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| 22:48.55 | rockstar_ | Hey everyone. |
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| 22:50.08 | eeyore- | 'use windows to handle bad blocks'? |
| 22:50.19 | eeyore- | the only real way to handle bad blocks is to replace the drive :-) |
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| 22:50.48 | gnufan | Someone should have told Microsoft developers that the disks handle bad blocks these days. |
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| 22:51.36 | nekron | Stew ii x11-common 7.0.19 X Window System (X.Org) infrastructure |
| 22:52.12 | rockstar_ | Bad blocks? Uh, that's a hardware issue most the time... |
| 22:52.32 | rockstar_ | If it's ever related to software, it's because Windows screwed the pooch. |
| 22:52.48 | dli | stew, ntfs has cluster remapping for badblocks |
| 22:53.04 | stew | nekron: dpkg-reconfigure should fix it. check the bts to see if a bug has been filed and if not, please file one |
| 22:53.28 | stew | !irc.debian.org is the irc.debian.org CNAME will be changed on June 4th to point to oftc, read the announcement here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html and the discussion that let to it here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 22:53.28 | dpkg | stew: okay |
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| 22:53.35 | nekron | stew: now it's ok |
| 22:53.42 | nekron | after reconfigure x11-common |
| 22:53.47 | stew | nekron: did you check the bts? |
| 22:53.57 | nekron | not yet |
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| 22:55.22 | nekron | stew debian sid has many problems? i was using ubuntu and want to change to debian, but sarge is very old (softwares).. |
| 22:55.41 | pipeline | nekron: And that is what etch is here for. |
| 22:56.45 | Shadowcat | wait |
| 22:56.54 | Shadowcat | nekron is the same guy that refused to listen before |
| 22:57.02 | Shadowcat | nekron: listen, you are NOT skilled enough to run sid |
| 22:57.05 | stew | nekron: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 22:57.17 | Shadowcat | so either learn debian properly under sarge |
| 22:57.22 | Shadowcat | or learn to run sid on your own |
| 22:57.50 | Shadowcat | and again, as has been asked of you many times, why do you NEED the latest software? |
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| 22:58.15 | nekron | more options |
| 22:58.31 | Shadowcat | those are your only options |
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| 22:58.42 | dli | Shadowcat, my old ProSavage video card needs xorg-7 to get DRI |
| 22:58.44 | Shadowcat | if you keep asking about sid pretty soon every regular in here will ignore you |
| 22:58.45 | nekron | and i only learn something trying and asking.. but sorry |
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| 22:59.06 | Shadowcat | nekron: you don't get it, people will NOT help you with sid when you don't know basic debian |
| 22:59.10 | moyote | Is there a kernel-source-2.6.15 available in etch?? |
| 22:59.20 | Shadowcat | moyote: yes |
| 22:59.21 | stew | nekron: if you want up to date software, you should be running stable with backports or *maybe* testing. unstable is meant for people who are debian developer or those who want to help by testing potentially very buggy debian packages and do report reporting/fixing |
| 22:59.33 | dli | Shadowcat, also, gnome-2.14.1 is much lighter and faster than gnome-2.12 :) |
| 22:59.33 | stew | moyote: as of 2.6.12 kernel-* was renamed linux-* |
| 22:59.36 | marc7 | is the "at" package explicitly required by a debian system? |
| 22:59.42 | marc7 | can it be done away with? |
| 22:59.43 | Shadowcat | dli: am I talking to you? |
| 22:59.55 | stew | Shadowcat: yes |
| 22:59.56 | dli | Shadowcat, yes |
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| 22:59.59 | moyote | stew thn |
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| 23:00.05 | gravity | nekron: If you want to run a development version of Debian, you can learn a lot and if you like playing with stuff at the bleeding edge it can be fun. But you're expected to do a lot of work and research on your own to make it work. If that's not right for you then I'd consider testing or another distribution |
| 23:00.06 | grendal_prime | at pacakge? |
| 23:00.12 | marc7 | the at scheduler. |
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| 23:00.20 | Shadowcat | dli: I was talking to nekron, not you |
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| 23:00.30 | Shadowcat | dli: if you think he should run sid, then by all means help him instead |
| 23:00.35 | stew | gravity: did you see the problem he came here with? freshly dist-upgraded from sarge and no /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 23:00.46 | stew | gravity: dpkg-reconfigure x11-common created one |
| 23:00.46 | dli | Shadowcat, no, I don't help anyone with sid :( |
| 23:00.49 | gravity | No |
| 23:00.59 | gravity | Ok, would someone report that bug? |
| 23:01.00 | Pollywog | I just suffered a momentary power failure and one of my two machines does not see its network interface |
| 23:01.00 | zwik | jjazz: iĆĀ“ m having troubles with the keys ;) |
| 23:01.02 | gravity | nekron: Can you report bugs? |
| 23:01.11 | zwik | jjazz: just copy them over does not work |
| 23:01.11 | Pollywog | any way to fix this short of a reinstall? |
| 23:01.12 | Shadowcat | dli: then stop telling me what you need from sid, you weren't in the conversation to begin with |
| 23:01.19 | nekron | gravity: i can try |
| 23:01.20 | Pollywog | Debian testing btw |
| 23:01.27 | stew | nekron: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 23:01.54 | Shadowcat | gravity: what do you need in the XOrg bug report? |
| 23:02.03 | Shadowcat | gravity: I assume you need my xorg.conf, what else |
| 23:02.14 | dvs | Pollywog: What's wrong with it. |
| 23:02.15 | gravity | Shadowcat: I need to know what the bug is |
| 23:02.27 | Shadowcat | gravity: already told you what the bug was yesturday |
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| 23:02.40 | Shadowcat | the one about xorg not being able to replace its own xorg.conf file |
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| 23:02.59 | Pollywog | dvs, when the machine reboots it says it cannot run postfix because the network interface is not present |
| 23:03.00 | Zweideutig | Why would ACPI stop informing acpid when the power button is pressed after resuming from a software suspend to disk? (It works before software suspend.) |
| 23:03.07 | gravity | Shadowcat: Just report it against xserver-xorg, severity important, and write down what the problem is |
| 23:03.10 | Pollywog | ifconfig shows no NIC |
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| 23:03.19 | dli | zwik, which keys? path and filenames? |
| 23:03.27 | Pollywog | it was fine before the power failure |
| 23:03.28 | Shadowcat | gravity: yes but what else do you need in the bug, xorg.conf? package versions? xorg logs? |
| 23:03.29 | gravity | Shadowcat: Tell me how the problem came about so that I can potentially reproduce it |
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| 23:03.33 | dvs | Pollywog: Oh. I guess you can't reinstall the kernel. |
| 23:03.37 | TonyRad | I have a quick and probably common question... How do I set up a printer on my debian system? |
| 23:03.39 | gravity | Shadowcat: Package versions yes, but reportbug will handle that |
| 23:03.46 | Shadowcat | ok then |
| 23:04.01 | gravity | Shadowcat: Wait... |
| 23:04.02 | dli | Pollywog, check dmesg :) |
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| 23:04.15 | gravity | Shadowcat: oh, right. Now I remember. Yeah, go ahead. |
| 23:04.31 | dli | TonyRad, install cupsys first, but what printer? |
| 23:04.46 | Pollywog | no obvious problem in dmesg |
| 23:04.55 | TonyRad | Umm... Offhand I don't know the printer.. I should probably find out.. |
| 23:04.57 | TonyRad | 1 sec |
| 23:05.10 | zwik | dli: the ssh keys i generated on a box and copied them to another box. When i try to connect to the server it closes the connection (no firewall) and when i try to ssh from the server to another box i get an error about RSA public decrypt failed |
| 23:05.23 | dvs | Pollywog: and apcupsd |
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| 23:05.45 | dli | zwik, pastebin the error messages, be specific |
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| 23:06.05 | Pollywog | I guess then the only fix is a reinstall? |
| 23:06.10 | zwik | iĆĀ“ve a topic.. On a Dutch forum though |
| 23:06.13 | FaeLLe | can someone help me get squid running |
| 23:06.20 | zwik | dli: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/25806668 |
| 23:06.21 | TonyRad | dli: it's a lexmark optra T610 |
| 23:06.22 | dvs | Pollywog: If you can't reinstall just the kernel, yeah |
| 23:06.23 | Johnny_5 | how do i get flash to work on my box? |
| 23:06.30 | hmakholm | Pollywog: You could try booting an installer disk and check if that can see your interface. If not, it may be the hardware been fried by power spikes connected to the outage. |
| 23:06.30 | TonyRad | I have samba installed on it as well |
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| 23:06.31 | FaeLLe | i did the ./configure and make all |
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| 23:06.35 | FaeLLe | then make install |
| 23:06.42 | FaeLLe | but it wont make the squid dir |
| 23:06.50 | FaeLLe | or file to start |
| 23:06.54 | Pollywog | hmakholm: tnx |
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| 23:07.31 | rovragge | I switched to newer kernel 2.6.16 and now alsa mixer does not find the mixer dev but /proc/asound/cards look all right.. also I seem to have udev now so when I try to MAKEDEV /dev/mixer it fails.. how is the mixer accessed with 2.6.16 and udev? |
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| 23:08.04 | dli | TonyRad, http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-Optra_T610 |
| 23:08.14 | Pollywog | I should be able to reinstall the kernel |
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| 23:08.59 | dvs | Pollywog: I assume that you get updates over the network so if you don't have a network anymore, you can install anything |
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| 23:10.06 | Pollywog | dvs: I have a backup kernel-image deb |
| 23:10.16 | dvs | Pollywog: then use that. |
| 23:10.38 | dli | zwik, how did you installed ssh server? |
| 23:10.50 | zwik | apt-get install ssh |
| 23:10.52 | h2k | hi, i'm having troubles with getting my s939 athlon64 3200+ thermal/fan/etc sensor information from ati motherboard ... any modules i have to load manually besides powernow-k8? |
| 23:11.31 | abrotman | h2k: tried loading powernowd or whatever it is ? |
| 23:11.36 | rockstar_ | blender can quite possible be the coolest thing ever. |
| 23:11.43 | dli | zwik, okay, try to reinstall it, " apt-get --reinstall install ssh " , it will download the debs needed |
| 23:11.50 | abrotman | rockstar_: have you seen synfig ? |
| 23:11.58 | h2k | abrotman, powernow-k8 module? yes |
| 23:11.59 | rockstar_ | No... |
| 23:12.24 | abrotman | !find powernow sarge |
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| 23:12.38 | rockstar_ | abrotman: Looks like it's only 2-d though |
| 23:12.47 | dli | zwik, after that, try to purge ssh and reinstall, " dpkg --purge ssh && apt-get install ssh " |
| 23:12.48 | abrotman | rockstar_: it's a different kind of application |
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| 23:13.49 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Gotta love apt-get install synfig |
| 23:13.51 | Pollywog | dvs: thanks, reinstalling the kernel and modules worked |
| 23:13.58 | abrotman | rockstar_: are you on etch or sid? |
| 23:13.58 | dvs | !beer me |
| 23:14.08 | Pollywog | now I just need to fix VMware :) |
| 23:14.15 | abrotman | #vmware |
| 23:14.19 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Etch, sid screws my video card. |
| 23:14.26 | Pollywog | nah I know how to fix it |
| 23:14.28 | abrotman | rockstar_: is synfig-studio in etch now ? |
| 23:14.28 | Pollywog | :) |
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| 23:15.09 | rockstar_ | Dunno, but synfig so far appears to have a cli |
| 23:15.23 | abrotman | rockstar_: you really want synfig-studio .. synfig is the backend stuff |
| 23:15.32 | rockstar_ | Nope, no synfig studio that I see. |
| 23:15.47 | abrotman | !info synfigstudio etch |
| 23:15.47 | rockstar_ | abrotman: Is there anamd64 package? |
| 23:15.57 | abrotman | rockstar_: might not be in etch yet |
| 23:16.05 | abrotman | rockstar_: i stole it from sid to play with it :) |
| 23:16.17 | MasterYoda | is there any way with the new vim packages to make the vi command behave like vim? |
| 23:16.36 | abrotman | MasterYoda: huh ? |
| 23:16.38 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Yeah, that's what I'm doing as well. |
| 23:16.52 | gnufan | MasterYoda: in what way behave like vim, surely vi is an alias by now |
| 23:17.01 | MasterYoda | abrotman: when you type vi, vim acts differently, it does not load vimrc |
| 23:17.07 | abrotman | MasterYoda: you want 'vi' to go to vim instead of nvi ? |
| 23:17.23 | MasterYoda | abrotman: no I want vi to start vim as if I typed vim |
| 23:17.29 | rockstar_ | abrotman: No amd64 package yet. Installing 32-bit version. |
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| 23:17.48 | abrotman | MasterYoda: ls -l /etch/alternatives/vi .. waht does it say? |
| 23:17.48 | ft | MasterYoda: alias vi='vim' |
| 23:17.55 | MasterYoda | abrotman: instead of starting vim in vi mode (meaning it loads /etc/vim/virc instead of /etc/vim/vimrc and a few other things) |
| 23:17.58 | abrotman | rockstar_: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=synfigstudio ... syas amd64 |
| 23:17.59 | h2k | abrotman, installed, daemon started, but still no help on thermal information |
| 23:18.17 | abrotman | h2k: is the info even in /proc/ anywhere? |
| 23:18.20 | MasterYoda | abrotman: it points to vim.basic |
| 23:18.23 | h2k | there is /proc/acpi/thermal, but it's empty |
| 23:18.31 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Hm, only synfig appeared after apt-get update on sid sources. |
| 23:18.34 | abrotman | MasterYoda: update-alternatives --list vi |
| 23:18.37 | MasterYoda | ft: any more system wide way? |
| 23:18.48 | MasterYoda | abrotman: it has vim.basic and vim.gnome, I already tried this |
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| 23:19.01 | abrotman | MasterYoda: is there another vim package perhaps ? |
| 23:19.04 | h2k | abrotman, that's the problem, /proc doesn't say anything |
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| 23:19.21 | abrotman | h2k: well .. i'd guess you're missing some kernel module .. |
| 23:19.23 | abrotman | !cpudyn |
| 23:19.23 | dpkg | cpudyn is, like, "controls the speed in Intel SpeedStep, Pentium 4 Mobile, AMD Powernow and PowerPC machines with the cpufreq compiled in the kernel, or with machines that support ACPI throttling". |
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| 23:19.32 | abrotman | erm .. that's no help |
| 23:19.39 | Shadowcat | hmm |
| 23:19.44 | h2k | yeah |
| 23:19.47 | Shadowcat | it appears a few more have filed this bug |
| 23:19.47 | ft | MasterYoda: zless /usr/share/doc/vim-common/NEWS.Debian.gz |
| 23:19.47 | gnufan | abrotman: BTW there was a long message about vimrc in the last vim update in unstable.... |
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| 23:19.56 | MasterYoda | abrotman: no, typing vim works fine, starts vim in vim mode, vi starts vim in vi mode, I am looking for some kind of flag or config file to make it act like vim (like it used to) |
| 23:19.59 | abrotman | gnufan: i don't run sid |
| 23:20.03 | Shadowcat | oh well I guess gravity's getting yet another bug report |
| 23:20.10 | abrotman | MasterYoda: ls -l `which vim` |
| 23:20.11 | Shadowcat | bah |
| 23:20.16 | Shadowcat | why did reportbug have to use vim |
| 23:20.32 | dvs | Shadowcat: that can be changed |
| 23:21.10 | MasterYoda | ft: thanks |
| 23:21.10 | pipeline | vim's "vi mode" sucks ass anyway |
| 23:21.10 | pipeline | nvi 4 lyfe |
| 23:21.11 | johnsu01 | Shadowcat: apt-get install debian-el :) |
| 23:21.11 | MasterYoda | abrotman: ft handled it... |
| 23:21.11 | abrotman | MasterYoda: okeedokee .. i'd still be interested to see what that says |
| 23:21.11 | stew | Shadowcat: it uses sensible-editor, update-alternatives --config editor ; or set EDITOR |
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| 23:21.30 | dvs | Shadowcat: /etc/reportbug.conf |
| 23:21.45 | ollo | hi guys |
| 23:21.55 | Shadowcat | I did what stew told me to do, thanks dvs, stew |
| 23:21.58 | Ugly_Duck | any one know a howto, for configuring a voip phone, usb.... lsusb shows its there etc, but how do i know what device it is etc? /dev/dsp0 1 etc |
| 23:22.29 | abrotman | h2k: you can browse modules with modconf .. they have short descriptions |
| 23:22.33 | ollo | need some informations about kernel for amd64 |
| 23:22.42 | MasterYoda | abrotman: it points to /etc/alternatives/vim (like it should) |
| 23:22.54 | Shadowcat | bah |
| 23:22.58 | Shadowcat | emacs > vim |
| 23:23.01 | rockstar_ | ollo : Ask your question |
| 23:23.02 | Shadowcat | !start an editor war |
| 23:23.02 | dpkg | "cat >" users need to get out more often |
| 23:23.03 | thingfish | say you wanted to install some other linux distro, only in a virtual environment (run it from within Debian). What would you use? |
| 23:23.04 | Duelist | okay, Google doesn't give me anything constructive for "Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1" ... what is this, and how do I fix it? |
| 23:23.06 | abrotman | so `vi` and `vim` go to the same thing .. but act differently ? |
| 23:23.15 | gnufan | Ugly_Duck: the application will likely fine it for you now... |
| 23:23.18 | Duelist | this is the last thing in my .xsession-errors before my login gets dumped |
| 23:23.21 | dli | Ugly_Duck, check your link " ls -l /dev/dsp ", |
| 23:23.22 | ollo | can you tell me where I can find it or the kernel stored in the kernel.org are alredy comprensive of amd64? |
| 23:23.23 | abrotman | thingfish: qemu? bochs? vmware? |
| 23:23.24 | Shadowcat | abrotman: vi -> vim |
| 23:23.26 | gnufan | Ugly_Duck: find it even |
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| 23:23.35 | abrotman | Shadowcat: i'm gonna smack you! |
| 23:23.38 | thingfish | abrotman: ok well that's what I was tending towards. |
| 23:23.42 | thingfish | thanks |
| 23:23.45 | Ugly_Duck | ls -l /dev/dsp |
| 23:23.45 | Ugly_Duck | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2006-05-19 11:46 /dev/dsp -> dsp0 |
| 23:24.00 | abrotman | Shadowcat: how can you lift that? |
| 23:24.00 | h2k | processor 24600 2 powernow_k8,thermal <this looks fine, but still ... upgradin kernel maybe? |
| 23:24.10 | Duelist | oh, and that reminds me... my sound card only shows up as /dev/dspW now, and various attempts at fixing this have failed |
| 23:24.17 | abrotman | h2k: uname -a |
| 23:24.22 | MasterYoda | abrotman: yes, they point to the same place, I knew that already... |
| 23:24.27 | Duelist | as a workaround I usually 'esd -d /dev/dspW &' now but that's ugly |
| 23:24.29 | h2k | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.46 | abrotman | not exactly -a .. but oh well |
| 23:25.04 | Duelist | okay, anyone who has a good working knowledge of GNOME login problems here? |
| 23:25.11 | abrotman | h2k: i mean .. that's a pretty new kernel |
| 23:25.21 | Ugly_Duck | Bus 002 Device 006: ID 04f9:001a Brother Industries, Ltd HL-1430 Laser Printer |
| 23:25.23 | abrotman | Duelist: in etch/sid ? checked the bts? |
| 23:25.29 | Ugly_Duck | wrong one.. my bad |
| 23:25.38 | Ugly_Duck | Bus 002 Device 005: ID 6993:b001 Freshtel FT-102 VoIP USB Phone |
| 23:25.39 | h2k | abrotman, yeah, custom from vanilla |
| 23:25.50 | roadfish | anyone here get CD recording on an external USB DVD-rewriter with cdrecord? |
| 23:25.52 | abrotman | h2k: oh .. have you tried a debian packaged kernel ? |
| 23:25.54 | Shadowcat | h2k: software suspend 2? |
| 23:26.04 | h2k | abrotman, no |
| 23:26.08 | Shadowcat | because the latest patch on that site points to 2.6.16.9 |
| 23:26.13 | Duelist | abrotman: I can log in as another user fine. it's just my usual user account that's all quacked up |
| 23:26.14 | h2k | Shadowcat, what's with that? |
| 23:26.22 | Shadowcat | h2k: are you using that? |
| 23:26.24 | rockstar_ | ollo : You're good with the kernels are kernel.org. They get built on whatever architechture you build them for. |
| 23:26.30 | h2k | Shadowcat, no |
| 23:26.31 | seb- | abrotman: tell me if i backport udev i can downgrade easily later |
| 23:26.33 | Shadowcat | ok then |
| 23:26.37 | dvs | h2k: install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect |
| 23:26.40 | abrotman | seb-: doubtful |
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| 23:26.56 | zwik | dli: no luck with the --reinstall, --purge and intall again :) |
| 23:26.57 | seb- | abrotman: i wish udev was part of kernel package |
| 23:27.05 | Duelist | I'm starting to hate udev |
| 23:27.05 | Ugly_Duck | is there a module i have to probe to get the phone to work? |
| 23:27.06 | abrotman | i wish udev would go away :) |
| 23:27.15 | MasterYoda | udev rocks hard |
| 23:27.18 | rockstar_ | seb-: Why would you backport udev? |
| 23:27.24 | zwik | dli: everything looks and feels the same |
| 23:27.36 | seb- | rockstar_: i think etch's udev is messing up my wifi |
| 23:27.39 | dvs | udev rules! |
| 23:27.44 | MasterYoda | hey, I am using software suspen2, I got it working today |
| 23:27.45 | ollo | thank, rockstar, you wanna say that I can update my actual kernel (2.6.15-1-amd64-k8) to new one?? |
| 23:27.48 | rockstar_ | seb- Is it an ipw2200? |
| 23:28.01 | seb- | rockstar_: thinkpad has some kinda prism2.5 wifi card |
| 23:28.21 | Ugly_Duck | dvs: i have hotplug installed, is udev better? |
| 23:28.22 | seb- | rockstar_: been using hostap_pci module i think |
| 23:28.37 | MasterYoda | I am going to submit patches to the suspend2-userui maints to make it work with just a kernel recompile |
| 23:28.40 | dvs | Ugly_Duck: udev will eventually be the only choice |
| 23:28.41 | rockstar_ | ollo : You can. I'm not completely sure how though. I've done it, but haven't been able to boot it yet. I'm not sure if it's hardware related, or if I missed a critical driver. |
| 23:28.56 | rockstar_ | seb-: I had to jump through hoops with firmware loading with udev. |
| 23:28.59 | ollo | mmmm.... |
| 23:29.00 | Ugly_Duck | dvs: ahh, okies; i should install it? and use it instead of hotplug? |
| 23:29.05 | rockstar_ | Let me boot my laptop and see if I can find the config for it. |
| 23:29.12 | ollo | I don't want to update drastically |
| 23:29.16 | dvs | Ugly_Duck: your choice. it works for me |
| 23:29.22 | ollo | just get one more stable |
| 23:29.23 | h2k | dvs, still no luck |
| 23:29.54 | ollo | for example 2.6.16-amd64-k8 |
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| 23:30.42 | rockstar_ | ollo 2.6.15 is pretty stable. What's wrong with yours? |
| 23:30.45 | ollo | another question...I have a mobo (MSI K8N Diamond) that has sound blaster live24 integrated. |
| 23:30.59 | shogunx | seb- hostap-cs, iirc. |
| 23:31.07 | shogunx | or hostap_cs |
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| 23:31.37 | seb- | shogunx: sarge is ok with hostap*....testing complains of inability to rename the interface to eth0 |
| 23:32.16 | ollo | rock, I dont think that the matter is the kernel....but something wrong I have did it, therefore I thoungh it was better radically update to new one |
| 23:32.22 | shogunx | seb- testing works ok with my dwl-650. loaded hostap during install, which i was quite impressed with. |
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| 23:32.59 | shogunx | seb- but i do use wlan0 for it. |
| 23:33.24 | ollo | the question on the sb live 24 is that after installing the ALSA driver when I switch on the pc I have to "restart" the "alsasound" everytime |
| 23:33.36 | sip | hoola |
| 23:33.48 | Ugly_Duck | dvs: do i have to modprobe any module to get my voip phone to work? |
| 23:33.49 | sip | alguien habla espaƱol---? |
| 23:33.58 | dvs | ollo: you gotta put the snd_em.. what module in the /etc/modules file |
| 23:34.07 | Irrumator | Does anyone know where can I view the debconf videos? I can't seem to find them within the link in the topic |
| 23:34.14 | ollo | with this comand "/etc/init.d/alsasound restart" |
| 23:34.15 | dvs | Ugly_Duck: I have no idea about voip phones |
| 23:34.20 | Marsmensch | i have apt-installed the gallery package, but now i don't know how to configure or start it. all howtos only describe manuall installation. any suggestions how to proced? |
| 23:34.24 | shogunx | ollo so put it in the boot sequence. |
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| 23:34.44 | seb- | Ugly_Duck: hardware phone? |
| 23:35.14 | Ugly_Duck | Seb: yes, Bus 002 Device 005: ID 6993:b001 Freshtel FT-102 VoIP USB Phone <-- its plugged to my usb slot |
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| 23:35.42 | Ugly_Duck | dvs: ok, installed udev, now no sound devices found at all.. hehe |
| 23:35.44 | ollo | bag your pardon guys...I am quit new with debian...but you mean I have to put the alsasound in the /etc/modules? |
| 23:36.22 | dvs | Ugly_Duck: so? load the sound modules |
| 23:36.27 | shogunx | ollo no, put a little script in /etc/init.d and call it from a symlink in /etc/rc2.d |
| 23:36.29 | seb- | Ugly_Duck: ug,,you got a headset...not a voip phone there i would guess |
| 23:36.53 | dvs | ollo: or use update-rc.d |
| 23:37.01 | zwik | sleep |
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| 23:37.30 | Ugly_Duck | might reboot and see how it goes |
| 23:37.35 | TonyRad | dli, I have cupsys installed.. is there an easy way to install that driver? I only have cli on this machine... |
| 23:37.42 | ollo | symlink...do you intend virtuyal link? |
| 23:37.56 | Ugly_Duck | dvs: all the modules are loaded |
| 23:38.15 | teledyn_ | anyone know of a wap client app? |
| 23:38.35 | shogunx | ollo, ln -s /etc/init.d/scriptname /etc/rc2.d/S99scriptname |
| 23:39.10 | ollo | for the "scriptname" do you intend alsasound?? |
| 23:39.23 | shogunx | ollo, whatever you choose to call it. |
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| 23:39.46 | Yarou | debiange |
| 23:39.49 | ollo | I dind't decide to call it it was called by ALSA |
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| 23:40.25 | TonyRad | I'm trying to set up a printer on my samba server.. I just installed cupsys.. how do I mount (or do I need to?) the printer? |
| 23:40.31 | dli | TonyRad, I don't know whether there's a debian package for the driver |
| 23:40.32 | ollo | but may I 've understood what you meen |
| 23:40.38 | ollo | may be |
| 23:40.39 | shogunx | ollo whever command you have to run to start the sound, put that in the /etc/init.d script. then name the script whatever you choose, and symlink as above. |
| 23:40.59 | TonyRad | Should I use lynx to the web site then can I install it from there? |
| 23:41.20 | shogunx | TonyRad, correct. |
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| 23:41.50 | ollo | let me see |
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| 23:42.33 | shogunx | ollo make sure you chmod 755 the script you put in /etc/init.d also. |
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| 23:44.10 | TonyRad | How does one install a ppd? |
| 23:44.11 | h2k | nope, even with debian's kernel i don't have thermal information |
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| 23:44.44 | ollo | shogunx, I have notice that the script is alredy present in /etc/init.d |
| 23:45.07 | shogunx | ollo one called alsasound? |
| 23:45.08 | ollo | than, why it doesn't up when I boot the pc? |
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| 23:45.36 | shogunx | ollo i would name your script something else then. |
| 23:45.49 | rockstar_ | ollo , I think that actually might be a bug. I had the same problem, had to make my own script that ran as well to make everything work. |
| 23:46.06 | shogunx | ollo, why? I do not know. but that is a reasonable workaround. |
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| 23:46.52 | ollo | well, is the a proble or a bug? |
| 23:47.42 | shogunx | ollo probably a bug in the stock initscript, or it is called out of order from what is necessary. |
| 23:48.02 | shogunx | you could submit a bug report to the bts. |
| 23:48.04 | shogunx | !bts |
| 23:48.04 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 23:48.55 | rockstar_ | I usually don't file a bug unless I'm POSITIVE it's not my ignorance. |
| 23:49.09 | rollie | hi, I have a question about what I should put in the Version: field of the control file for a debian package I maintain |
| 23:49.29 | dvs | rollie: #debian-dev ? |
| 23:49.37 | rollie | dvs: ah, thanks |
| 23:49.40 | ollo | mmm |
| 23:49.49 | Vasistha | ollo: yeah, before filing a bug you should try putting an echo command in the script, like "echo SCRIPT RUNNING NOW" -- then you'll know for sure whether it's running |
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| 23:50.05 | rollie | dvs: except no one is in #debian-dev :( |
| 23:50.15 | dvs | figures |
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| 23:50.30 | ollo | at the beginig of the script or to the end? |
| 23:50.36 | daqqal | hello there |
| 23:50.48 | Vasistha | daqqal: welcome! if you've got a question, feel free to just ask it |
| 23:50.52 | TonyRad | How do I install a driver for my printer? |
| 23:50.54 | daqqal | hy guys, could you paste the link for debian net install for 64 bit amd, i can't sem to find it |
| 23:51.01 | jlaw_ | so, dann ma eine geruhsame nacht euch allen |
| 23:51.05 | jlaw_ | -.- |
| 23:51.13 | jlaw_ | !tell me -about english |
| 23:51.23 | dli | TonyRad, just use localhost:631 |
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| 23:51.35 | jlaw_ | gdn8 everyone^^ sleep well |
| 23:51.36 | TonyRad | Do I need to put it in a certain directory? |
| 23:51.44 | jlaw_ | !sleep |
| 23:51.44 | dpkg | sleep is probably For wimpy organic beings. Or, sleep is probably a poor substitute for coffee or for mortals or for the weak or the glory of the cowards and the un-caffeinateds. :-) or the activity of choice for the intelligent person or time which could be spent hacking the planet.. or .. whatever .. ZZzzzz ... |
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| 23:52.03 | rollie | what I want to do is package upstream's 1.1-pre1 release. What should I use as a Version: so that the 1.1 final release (which will have Version: 1.1-1) sorts properly against it? |
| 23:52.07 | cr3 | how can I determine the number of blocks on a block device like /dev/hda? |
| 23:52.26 | ollo | in the script is written: echo "Usage: alsasound {start|stop|restart|status}" |
| 23:53.05 | abrotman | cr3: fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 23:53.10 | seb- | what's daemon mode of rsync is for |
| 23:53.11 | seb- | ? |
| 23:53.13 | amathes_ | daqql: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 23:53.22 | abrotman | cr3: dmesg might tell you too |
| 23:53.33 | Vasistha | ollo: that will only happen if the script is run without the proper parameters. You could just add a line to the top, before it's doing anything. Of course you can remove that later. |
| 23:53.38 | amathes_ | daqqal http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 23:54.23 | ollo | thank you for your support...I hope, in the future to be friendly as well. |
| 23:54.23 | cr3 | abrotman: that only gives me the number of blocks for each partition, I need the number of blocks for the whole drive |
| 23:54.42 | abrotman | cr3: use a calculator? :) |
| 23:55.01 | cr3 | abrotman: what if the disk is not all partitionned? |
| 23:55.07 | abrotman | cr3: cheater! |
| 23:55.16 | Vasistha | ollo: hehheh the way you phrased that sentence in english is pretty funny... but your english is good, keep it up. Glad to have you running debian! |
| 23:55.28 | daqqal | amathes_: thanx there |
| 23:55.32 | abrotman | cr3: i'd think there'd be something in /proc/ |
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| 23:55.55 | vars | how can i configure lilo? |
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| 23:56.28 | Vasistha | vars: what do you want it to do? |
| 23:56.35 | cr3 | abrotman: I checked but couldn't find anything. actually, fdisk does show the number of bytes for /dev/hda, but in bytes. so a calculator could indeed work :) |
| 23:56.40 | ollo | thank...hahahah...I know too much scolastic |
| 23:56.47 | abrotman | cr3: yay! |
| 23:57.05 | vars | i have three os's on my system |
| 23:57.16 | vars | and Vasistha nice name |
| 23:57.19 | zarathustra | hi, I have a problem. During booting I get a segmentation fault, and a message saying that it cannot find the / partition, and I get a busybox =( |
| 23:57.50 | _ericb | I'm having problem with XFS quota. I've added quota to the list of mount options to the filesystem I want quota support, mount -o remount /home, and it reports bad option or filesystem not mounted. reverting /etc/fstab to the original state and remount don't report bug |
| 23:57.54 | Vasistha | vars: thank you. In case you're wondering (of course maybe you already know) Vasistha is a sage in the Hindu texts |
| 23:58.10 | vars | yeah |
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| 23:58.29 | ollo | Stupid question: are may of the script made in wich language (perl, pascal or what)?? |
| 23:58.34 | Vasistha | vars: So you have three OS's... can you boot ANY of them? ;-) |
| 23:58.43 | Vasistha | ollo: usually bash |
| 23:59.07 | vars | i love the hindus they arn't afraid of using V's |
| 23:59.16 | ollo | bash??? is bash using perl? |
| 23:59.35 | Vasistha | ollo: not necessarily |
| 23:59.36 | ollo | no...stupid question |
| 23:59.39 | vars | i have been trying to get a webserver installed and now i can't acces the internet |
| 23:59.59 | vars | Vasistha, yes i can use ubuntu |
