| 00:00.02 | PovAddict | lol @ apt-get moo |
| 00:00.11 | stew | amahbod: /msg dpkg sid faq ; /msg dpkg bts |
| 00:00.12 | onetinsoldier | ~bts |
| 00:00.14 | apt | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or anyone running unstable who's unable to check the BTS should be shot on sight. apt-get install reportbug |
| 00:00.14 | onetinsoldier | oops |
| 00:00.16 | _gass_ | abrotman: there is a free implementation, is it not? |
| 00:00.24 | amahbod | stew i was looking at it and i found errors where it did not see all 12 buttons, but nothing like what i' mgetting |
| 00:00.48 | abrotman | _gass_: kind of .. depends on the level of java you need |
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| 00:00.52 | stew | _gass_: jikes or kaffee |
| 00:01.00 | _gass_ | stew: is to compile jboss |
| 00:01.03 | abrotman | sable |
| 00:01.17 | _gass_ | using stable |
| 00:01.17 | abrotman | gcj ? |
| 00:01.29 | _gass_ | abrotman: installed ... but no JAVA_HOME |
| 00:01.31 | abrotman | eh .. no instructions at the jboss site ? |
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| 00:01.46 | stew | _gass_: i don't know if its possible or not to compile jboss using one of the compilers in debian |
| 00:02.00 | _gass_ | humm |
| 00:02.23 | stew | _gass_: you shoudln't need to set JAVA_HOME to compile |
| 00:02.31 | _gass_ | stew: installed gij |
| 00:02.34 | _gass_ | and jikes |
| 00:02.39 | Thanatermesis | hi stew, i have just look to ivman 0.6.12 has enter on etch |
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| 00:02.54 | _gass_ | stew: using the pkg-jboss |
| 00:03.07 | stew | Thanatermesis: it has? |
| 00:03.14 | {SS}Neophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.22 | stew | _gass_: what is pkg-jboss? |
| 00:03.29 | Thanatermesis | yes, around one or two hours stew |
| 00:03.35 | Thanatermesis | ago* |
| 00:03.37 | stew | Thanatermesis: hmm, i didn't get the email yet |
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| 00:03.47 | _gass_ | stew: alioth.d.o/projects/pkg-jboss |
| 00:04.42 | Thanatermesis | well.. is here, from testing/etch, yes |
| 00:05.46 | {SS}Neophyte | is there some one that can help me with this ? |
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| 00:06.04 | grendal_prime | ok im feeling retarded here |
| 00:06.23 | thingfish | some of us always feel that way, grendal_prime. |
| 00:06.36 | grendal_prime | can anyone explain this way screwed up situation with these damn jabber clients.. |
| 00:06.45 | stew | _gass_: that appears to be out-dated |
| 00:06.54 | abrotman | grendal_prime: could you be more vague? |
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| 00:07.05 | _gass_ | stew: true, but i am testing anyway ... it fails |
| 00:07.10 | grendal_prime | i mean someone said this could be done....i just dont see how..but well...it just seems like this should not be this difficult |
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| 00:07.18 | stew | _gass_: does it come with any instructions? |
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| 00:07.28 | grendal_prime | sure abrotman let me muk things up actually by explaining it |
| 00:07.31 | _gass_ | stew: i think so ... but did not rad them |
| 00:07.49 | abrotman | !jboss |
| 00:07.56 | abrotman | http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-jboss/ |
| 00:08.03 | abrotman | looks pretty dead though |
| 00:08.08 | grendal_prime | two servers and twol clients...a = client b= router c= router d= client. |
| 00:08.13 | amahbod | is evdev a protocol? |
| 00:08.21 | stew | _gass_: it looks like jboss depends on sun's servlet implementation so you wont' be able to compile it with a free jdk |
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| 00:08.26 | abrotman | http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=jboss&submit=Submit&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all |
| 00:08.43 | grendal_prime | sooo i want to send file like this.... a>b>c>d |
| 00:08.43 | stew | http://wiki.debian.org/JBossPackaging |
| 00:08.44 | _gass_ | stew: yes ... i am reaching to that conclusion |
| 00:09.04 | abrotman | he could try asking #debian-java |
| 00:09.07 | grendal_prime | follow so far? |
| 00:09.30 | abrotman | grendal_prime: firewall |
| 00:09.36 | grendal_prime | ya |
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| 00:09.40 | {SS}Neophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.51 | grendal_prime | b and c are debian routers, there is a jabber server running on B |
| 00:09.59 | _gass_ | stew: a real pain in the ass |
| 00:10.04 | abrotman | pete and repete |
| 00:10.15 | _gass_ | stew: there is an installer for boss |
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| 00:10.23 | Roey | hi |
| 00:10.44 | Roey | I can't start my X server; I get some error 111/errno 3 about not being able to connect to the X server. |
| 00:10.45 | grendal_prime | NO man PETE IS AT THE BAR! |
| 00:10.47 | grendal_prime | HEHEEH |
| 00:10.55 | grendal_prime | sory had to do that |
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| 00:10.59 | abrotman | !iapf |
| 00:10.59 | dpkg | i guess iapf is It's All Pete's Fault(http://www.itsallpetesfault.org) |
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| 00:12.39 | {SS}Neophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.46 | abrotman | pete and repete |
| 00:12.56 | grendal_prime | thats some funny shit |
| 00:12.56 | _gass_ | stew: i gave up ... |
| 00:13.15 | beetlepun_ | {SS}Neophyte, i've used phpshell |
| 00:13.16 | abrotman | {SS}Neophyte: your question is a bit vague .. could you define more needs |
| 00:13.42 | abrotman | sounds .. cracker-ish |
| 00:13.53 | grendal_prime | im going home...you umm work that entire sichiation with the firewalls out..when i get home and back on line you can explain to me why i cant seem to get it worked out? |
| 00:14.04 | grendal_prime | k |
| 00:14.06 | grendal_prime | abrotman, |
| 00:14.15 | {SS}Neophyte | abrotman wel its like this i'm looking for something like i have game server i wanna put it on & off web based only then like buttons |
| 00:14.27 | abrotman | grendal_prime: firewalls! |
| 00:14.32 | grendal_prime | im counting on you -> abrotman <- the man |
| 00:14.38 | Roey | abrotman: hi@ |
| 00:14.39 | Roey | ! |
| 00:14.43 | abrotman | i think i'm about to be assaulted by the man |
| 00:14.55 | grendal_prime | ummm or woman...i mean if you are one... |
| 00:15.01 | Roey | abrotman: I can't start X :( |
| 00:15.03 | Klavier | can we convert .dbx outlook files for thunderbird? |
| 00:15.07 | abrotman | Roey: and why not? |
| 00:15.17 | abrotman | Klavier: pst you mean ? |
| 00:15.23 | Roey | abrotman: basically it gives me some sort of error 111 and errorno 3 about not being able to connect to the X server (xinit says this) |
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| 00:15.31 | abrotman | Roey: what did you install ? |
| 00:15.41 | Roey | abrotman: nothing; I apt-got dist-upgraded. |
| 00:15.43 | stew | Roey: put the actuall output into a pastebin |
| 00:15.43 | Klavier | what is pst abrotman ? |
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| 00:15.52 | Roey | stew: sorta hard when you can't start X, ya know ;) |
| 00:15.59 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 00:16.00 | dpkg | from memory, pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m |
| 00:16.16 | abrotman | i think pastebin.ca has an upload form |
| 00:16.24 | Roey | stew: you guys are incredibly useful, thank you :) :) |
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| 00:16.55 | cmatheson | hey guys, i'm trying to use command substitution w/in a find -exec statement... so it's something like this: find /path -name *.ogg -type f -exec sox {} $(basename {} .ogg).mp3 \; ~ but it seems to completely ignore the call to basename... any ideas why? |
| 00:17.48 | stew | cmatheson: that call to basename would happen before the find command was ever excuted, you will want to write a loop |
| 00:18.12 | Ugly_Duck | any one know howto stop a transfer in ncftp without quiting the program? ctrl+ ? |
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| 00:18.36 | stew | find ... | while read a ; do sox $a $(basename $a .ogg).mp3 ; done |
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| 00:19.29 | cureless | Ugly_Duck: try ctrl+g, it's what lynx uses. |
| 00:19.30 | abrotman | gravity always brings me down |
| 00:19.38 | cmatheson | stew: ok, i initially tried using a for-loop but i was having trouble w/ the awkward spaces and stuff that are in my song files... the loop i was doing was like this: for i in $(findcommandgoeshere); do sox "$i" "$(basename "$i" .ogg).mp3" ; done ... but i think it was getting screwed up at the for i in $(find...) part... any ideas there? |
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| 00:20.12 | stew | cmatheson: that's why you use | while read a ; instead , which doesn't get messed up by spaces |
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| 00:20.27 | cmatheson | stew: great, i'll give that a whirl, thanks |
| 00:20.28 | Roey | stew: pastex. |
| 00:20.29 | cureless | cmatheson: that's why you use while read. |
| 00:20.29 | Roey | *pasted. |
| 00:20.34 | Roey | "Some X Error." |
| 00:20.37 | stew | Roey: what is the url? |
| 00:20.44 | Roey | how should I know, it just pasted. |
| 00:20.49 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:20.57 | stew | how should i know, i didn't just paste |
| 00:21.00 | Roey | seriously, this w3m thing is a pos. |
| 00:21.01 | Roey | one sec. |
| 00:21.03 | jelly-ho | stew, cmatheson: beware spaces in names though. find ... -print0 | xargs -0 -n1 -iX sh -c 'sox X `basename X .ogg`.mp3' might work |
| 00:21.06 | Roey | god damn it, now I have to do it again. |
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| 00:21.10 | amphi | Roey: w3m is excellent |
| 00:21.14 | Roey | it's a pos |
| 00:21.19 | stew | jelly-ho: the version i gave him works with spaces, as i just stated |
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| 00:21.23 | cureless | jelly-ho: | while read works |
| 00:21.32 | jelly-ho | stew: oh, nice. |
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| 00:22.27 | amphi | Roey: FWIW, H in w3m will give you help on keybindings |
| 00:22.30 | stew | Roey: then use a different text based browser that lets you use external editors |
| 00:22.49 | cureless | cmatheson: btw, there's a nice perl script that converts ogg 2 mp3 with tags. |
| 00:23.32 | abrotman | Roey: entering a name might help |
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| 00:23.41 | bryan__ | Hello everyone. |
| 00:23.56 | Roey | abrotman, amphi, stew: ok, it's at: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2613 |
| 00:23.57 | stew | gravity: do you know if anyone has yet filed a bug about no Xwrapper.config being generated on upgrading from sarge until you reconfigure x11-common? |
| 00:24.03 | gravity | stew: No one has |
| 00:24.09 | setog3 | hi bronze |
| 00:24.15 | Roey | amphi: that's exactly what happened to me, I pasted by accident becase I hit 'enter' in the wrong location, I think. |
| 00:24.16 | setog3 | hi bryan__ |
| 00:24.17 | gravity | I found out about it late last night, but an outside bug report might be helpful |
| 00:24.22 | stew | gravity: ugh. i told at least 2 people to |
| 00:24.25 | gravity | Figures |
| 00:24.28 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:24.31 | stew | gravity: i haven't seen it first hand |
| 00:24.33 | gravity | stew: Thanks though. I'll look in to it tonight |
| 00:24.44 | gravity | I found it doing a chroot install |
| 00:24.45 | stew | gravity: if i have time after dinner i'll see if i can do it in a chroot |
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| 00:24.57 | abrotman | Roey: are you ircing from the broken box? |
| 00:25.03 | abrotman | BANANA! |
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| 00:25.13 | bryan__ | I am setting up RAID-1 with PCI RAID controller. I want the second hard drive to be a duplicate of the first hard drive. The first hard drive already has data on it. I have done sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk /dev/hde |
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| 00:25.29 | Roey | abrotman: what banana :) :) |
| 00:25.29 | bryan__ | What do I do next? (hda is first hard drive, hde is second) |
| 00:25.36 | Roey | abrotman: yeah, what else can I do ;) |
| 00:25.44 | musashiden | hmm. my new server has 2GB of RAM, but debian is only recognising 900MB of ram. |
| 00:25.51 | abrotman | Roey: how are you starting X ? |
| 00:25.56 | abrotman | musashiden: what CPU ? |
| 00:25.58 | Roey | abrotman: with startx. |
| 00:26.01 | musashiden | and someone told me that i need to recompile the kernel to make it recognise it |
| 00:26.01 | Roey | (normally). |
| 00:26.08 | abrotman | Roey: is there another error log in your $HOME ? |
| 00:26.09 | musashiden | abrotman: Dual Xeon |
| 00:26.18 | abrotman | musashiden: sarge ? |
| 00:26.45 | musashiden | erm, one moment. i gotta double check |
| 00:26.54 | cmatheson | cureless: really? where is that? |
| 00:27.20 | musashiden | abrotman: how do i check the version trough ssh? i used to know the command but i forgot. |
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| 00:27.26 | cmatheson | stew: thanks for the help, the script works.. unfortunately it appears my self-built sox doesn't (freezes up on a call to blk(0x...) w/ my cpu being used at 100% |
| 00:27.31 | Roey | abrotman: lemme see. There eshould be a $HOME/.xsession-error, right? |
| 00:27.38 | abrotman | musashiden: cat /etc/apt/sources.list .. where does it point ? sarge/stable/etch/testing ? |
| 00:27.44 | abrotman | Roey: something like that |
| 00:27.50 | amahbod | i am having trouble with ALSA. I compiled my sound cards' drivers into the kernel, but i am getting this error when trying to play a song with VLC: ALSA lib confmisc.c cannout find card '0' |
| 00:27.51 | Roey | there is none :( |
| 00:27.53 | Roey | abrotman: none |
| 00:27.55 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:27.57 | amahbod | is there some special ALSA config i need to do? |
| 00:28.09 | abrotman | Roey: did you install x-window-system-core ? |
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| 00:28.33 | cureless | cmatheson: http://www.igso.net/nkb/Converting_ogg_to_mp3_in_Linux |
| 00:28.33 | usual | How can i downgrade autoconf in sid to the version before 2.59.cvs.2006.05.13-1 |
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| 00:28.40 | cmatheson | cureless: thanks |
| 00:28.44 | abrotman | !tell usual about sdn |
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| 00:29.24 | musashiden | abrotman: yeah, its sarge |
| 00:29.43 | abrotman | musashiden: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686-smp .. reboot & pray |
| 00:29.52 | Roey | abrotman: I think so? xinit's there after all. |
| 00:29.58 | Roey | lemme check. |
| 00:30.01 | musashiden | and pray? what is that supposed to mean? X_X |
| 00:30.07 | bryan__ | I am reading some directions on a website for setting up RAID1. I'd like to know if they'll wipe what's already on my primary hard drive or not. |
| 00:30.16 | bryan__ | Would anyone be able to answer? |
| 00:30.18 | Roey | abrotman: oh, it's listed as "pn" |
| 00:30.20 | Roey | in dpkg -l |
| 00:30.23 | abrotman | musashiden: i'm going to guess you're currently running a 2.4 kernel .. you're upgrading the kernel .. it will give you all 2GB |
| 00:30.33 | abrotman | Roey: apt-get --reinstall install x-window-system-core |
| 00:30.34 | cureless | bryan__: probably. |
| 00:30.35 | Roey | abrotman: pn probably standing for 'pwned'. |
| 00:30.39 | Roey | abrotman: one sec. |
| 00:30.48 | abrotman | Roey: p==purged |
| 00:31.03 | bryan__ | Cureless - it says to: # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/hdb1 /dev/hdc1 |
| 00:31.03 | bryan__ | # mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/hdb2 /dev/hdc2 |
| 00:31.03 | bryan__ | 4. Make filesystems: |
| 00:31.03 | bryan__ | ------------------------------------------------------------------ |
| 00:31.03 | bryan__ | # mke2fs -j /dev/md0 |
| 00:31.04 | Roey | abrotman: depends: xorg but it ist not going to be installed |
| 00:31.04 | bryan__ | # mke2fs -j /dev/md1 |
| 00:31.06 | bryan__ | # mkswap /dev/hdb3 |
| 00:31.07 | Roey | abrotman: ah |
| 00:31.13 | Roey | abrotman: ok, so that's what it means. |
| 00:31.14 | musashiden | well, here goes nothing |
| 00:31.17 | abrotman | Roey: why not ? .. apt-get install xorg ? |
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| 00:31.37 | bryan__ | Sorry. |
| 00:32.00 | quitte | bryan__: you loose your data when you create the filesystem or earlier |
| 00:32.29 | bryan__ | Quitte - what should I do/ |
| 00:32.43 | quitte | bryan__: back up your data |
| 00:32.57 | abrotman | Roey: snap snap .. i've got some soldering to do :) |
| 00:32.58 | Roey | abrotman: so xorg depends on xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:33.17 | abrotman | Roey: keep going down the tree .. but make sure you do an `apt-get update` and try again |
| 00:33.18 | bryan__ | Is there anyway to set up RAID1 without having to do that? |
| 00:33.22 | Roey | abrotman: ok.. |
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| 00:33.29 | Roey | abrotman: (stand by..) |
| 00:33.39 | abrotman | chop chop! |
| 00:33.40 | stew | Roey: you are running unstable? |
| 00:33.42 | quitte | bryan__: i have absolutely no idea if this works. but you might be able to create a raid1 with only 1 disk and then add additional disks later |
| 00:34.04 | Roey | stew: yes. |
| 00:34.08 | Roey | yes, I am. |
| 00:34.25 | quitte | bryan__: but no you cant mess with partitions without making a backup at all |
| 00:34.43 | Roey | abrotman: so xutils depends on x11-common 6.8.1 but I have X 7.x installed. |
| 00:34.52 | abrotman | Roey: apt-get update ? |
| 00:35.02 | bryan__ | quitte - is there software i can use that will simplify backing things up? |
| 00:35.09 | Roey | abrotman: nothign to update to. |
| 00:35.14 | quitte | bryan__: tar |
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| 00:35.38 | abrotman | Roey: apt-cache policy x11-common .. any hints? |
| 00:36.05 | Bucciarati | hi.. why does my apt-ftparchive ignore all APT::FTPArchive::Release::* settings in /etc/apt/apt.conf ??!? :| |
| 00:36.18 | Roey | abrotman: dpkg -l x11-common says 'ii x11-common 7.0.20' |
| 00:36.32 | bryan__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.39 | quitte | bryan__: or maybe you want to find a way to make proper backups before setting up raid? raid doesn't replace backing up at all. |
| 00:36.49 | abrotman | Roey: what version of xutils is it trying to install ? |
| 00:37.00 | quitte | bryan__: tar the content of etc |
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| 00:37.01 | stew | Roey: iirc, you dont' want xutils |
| 00:37.09 | Roey | abrotman: 6.9.0-dfsg |
| 00:37.12 | Roey | stew: ok |
| 00:37.14 | abrotman | he said x-window-system-core is trying to install it |
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| 00:37.20 | abrotman | is there some other metapackage he wants? |
| 00:37.27 | Roey | apt-cache policy x11-common says 7.0.20 |
| 00:37.34 | Roey | apt-cache pol8icy xutils says 6.8.1 |
| 00:37.54 | Roey | apt-cache policy x-window-system-core is 7.0.20 |
| 00:38.11 | onetinsoldier | Roey: apt-get update gives you a message of: nothing to update to ...? |
| 00:38.19 | abrotman | Roey: or dist-upgrade ? |
| 00:38.21 | Meaw | hi guys i'd upgrade to kernel 2.6 , and i download xorg and kde & kdm, but when startx starts all i can see is the default background , any idea? or anything else should i install? |
| 00:38.27 | Roey | onetinsoldier: no I meant that it syas that there's nothing to update. |
| 00:38.30 | Roey | abrotman: same. |
| 00:38.33 | musashiden | abrotman, i keep getting time out errors now X_X |
| 00:38.39 | onetinsoldier | Roey: roger |
| 00:38.41 | Roey | onetinsoldier: I mean the dist-upgrade does; the update runs fine. |
| 00:38.44 | abrotman | musashiden: on the machine ? |
| 00:38.51 | stew | Roey: remove xutils, apt-get install xorg |
| 00:38.52 | musashiden | yes, i'm connecting trough ssh |
| 00:38.58 | onetinsoldier | k |
| 00:39.01 | abrotman | musashiden: it's hours away isn't it |
| 00:39.01 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:39.08 | musashiden | yes, accross the country |
| 00:39.10 | abrotman | musashiden: and it has SATA doesn't it ? |
| 00:39.10 | sid | !tetrinet |
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| 00:39.16 | musashiden | yes |
| 00:39.21 | Roey | stew, dpkg -l says that xutils is "rc" |
| 00:39.28 | quitte | bryan__: thinking about it you will loose data the way i told you earlier. if instead you manage to make a raid1 of only 1 empty disk and then copy the full disk to the resulting md device that might actually work. if a raid 1 with only one disk can be created that is. |
| 00:39.35 | abrotman | musashiden: can you get the colo to intervene ? |
| 00:39.42 | Bucciarati | i solved it .. it wants the -c option :/ |
| 00:39.59 | Vme | i used the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run shell script to install the Nvida drivers and it worked really well, however, i'm worried about when i recompile my kernel? I don't see a module installed in /usr/src/modules? |
| 00:39.59 | abrotman | musashiden: did you install this server or did they? |
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| 00:40.16 | musashiden | i did. its in a colocation center. EQUINIX |
| 00:40.27 | onetinsoldier | Roey: that means it's uninstalled but the configuration file have been left in place |
| 00:40.28 | musashiden | but i had to take a 6 hours plane trip X_X |
| 00:40.34 | onetinsoldier | *files |
| 00:40.38 | abrotman | musashiden: transition from 2.4 to 2.6 involves a name change of drive devices |
| 00:41.02 | musashiden | well, i guess i'm screwd huh? |
| 00:41.04 | Roey | onetinsoldier: oh. |
| 00:41.06 | abrotman | musashiden: have them restart into the 2.4 kernel .. you'll have to edit the grub/lilo conf after they do that |
| 00:41.12 | onetinsoldier | Roey: r= removed |
| 00:41.16 | Roey | abrotman: well, i guess i'm screwd huh? |
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| 00:41.22 | onetinsoldier | Roey: dpkg --purge xutils |
| 00:41.22 | Roey | ok. |
| 00:41.27 | Meaw | hi guys i'd upgrade to kernel 2.6 , and i download xorg and kde & kdm, but when startx starts all i can see is the default background , any idea? or anything else should i install? |
| 00:41.27 | Roey | one sec. |
| 00:41.31 | abrotman | Roey: it's unstable .. :) |
| 00:41.35 | musashiden | ...... |
| 00:41.39 | Vme | why in the etch sources can't i find nvidia-kernel-sources? |
| 00:41.43 | abrotman | musashiden: you can't have that done ? |
| 00:41.59 | Roey | onetinsoldier: now dpkg lists xutils as pn. |
| 00:42.07 | musashiden | WHY did you made me install something that there was a 90% chance that it would make the machine not boot up again? T_T |
| 00:42.14 | stew | !test |
| 00:42.15 | abrotman | musashiden: realisitcally .. you sohuld have installed the 2.6 kernel when you started |
| 00:42.16 | Roey | abrotman: out of curiosity, what do you run on your normal usage machine |
| 00:42.17 | onetinsoldier | Riey: cool... purged, not installed is what that means |
| 00:42.23 | Roey | onetinsoldier: ok |
| 00:42.39 | abrotman | musashiden: you never mentioned SATA .. i figured a dual xeon would have SCSI .. my apologies |
| 00:42.47 | onetinsoldier | Roey: so you're tyring to upgrade to unstable? |
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| 00:42.53 | stew | dondelelcaro: did we lose the bot? |
| 00:42.56 | Roey | onetinsoldier: no, I'm trying to get X working gain on unstable ;) |
| 00:42.56 | unix_infidel | abrotman: that's not necessarily true. |
| 00:43.03 | unix_infidel | dual xeons are getting cheap enough for desktops. |
| 00:43.07 | Roey | onetinsoldier: I apt-got updated over a period of a few months but never restarted X. |
| 00:43.13 | dpkg | tetrinet is, like, multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 00:43.14 | Roey | abrotman: like which ones? |
| 00:43.17 | abrotman | unix_infidel: perhaps |
| 00:43.19 | dpkg | Sorry, stew, I didn't get your test. |
| 00:43.20 | abrotman | Roey: ? |
| 00:43.25 | Roey | abrotman: nevermind. |
| 00:43.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:43.27 | stew | dondelelcaro: nm, sorry |
| 00:43.29 | stew | err |
| 00:43.35 | abrotman | i assume don did that |
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| 00:43.45 | Roey | onetinsoldier: anyhow, |
| 00:43.48 | musashiden | ..... |
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| 00:43.52 | stew | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 00:43.53 | musashiden | what am i going to do now.... |
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| 00:44.11 | abrotman | musashiden: you call them and ask the guy to go to the cage and select the 2.4 kernel that is still on the grub menu |
| 00:44.20 | dondelelcaro | stew: np |
| 00:44.22 | musashiden | and then what? |
| 00:44.28 | Roey | onetinsoldier: so I get this error about not being able to connec to the X server when I run startx. |
| 00:44.47 | abrotman | musashiden: and then you'll edit the grub config manually so that it knows where your drives are when the 2.6 kernel boots |
| 00:45.04 | onetinsoldier | Roey: well, you're having problems getting all X packages to install? or no..? |
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| 00:45.11 | Roey | onetinsoldier: yes!! :) |
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| 00:45.43 | onetinsoldier | ahhh, bummer. but if you keep at it you should be able to get it done ;-) |
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| 00:46.03 | Roey | onetinsoldier: so I do apt-get install x-window-system and it says 'depends on xorg'. So I do apt-get install xorg and it tells me it depends on xutils. So I try to install xutils 6.8.1 or something incredulous like that. |
| 00:46.07 | asg | [C/win right |
| 00:46.18 | Roey | nonono |
| 00:46.18 | onetinsoldier | at least if you know that otehr people using unstable aren't having the same problem you're having right now! |
| 00:46.23 | musashiden | abrotman: couldnt you atleast have given me a warning? <_< |
| 00:46.31 | Roey | ite tells me it dpeends on xutils 6.8.1 or something incredulous like that. |
| 00:46.35 | Roey | onetinsoldier: I odn't know. |
| 00:46.41 | Roey | perhaps it was resovled months ago. |
| 00:46.43 | abrotman | musashiden: i apologized already .. i normally associate high end CPUs with SCSI |
| 00:46.47 | Roey | I never restarted X, so I never saw that problem. |
| 00:46.50 | Roey | :( |
| 00:47.07 | musashiden | ok abrotman: i'm gonna trust you again |
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| 00:47.25 | musashiden | luckily, i had a internet friend that lived near EQUINIX |
| 00:47.34 | abrotman | you have internet friends? |
| 00:47.39 | abrotman | :) |
| 00:47.40 | onetinsoldier | Roey: have you considered purgin every single X package you have and then try to install X again from scratch? you do have a good mirror in your sources.list i hope |
| 00:47.40 | musashiden | doesnt everybody? |
| 00:47.41 | musashiden | :P |
| 00:47.48 | musashiden | anyways, i can access the server now |
| 00:47.55 | abrotman | musashiden: it's back up ? |
| 00:47.58 | musashiden | yes |
| 00:48.03 | abrotman | that's the fastest internet friend ever |
| 00:48.14 | abrotman | is he Laslo ? |
| 00:48.14 | musashiden | he lives right there |
| 00:48.20 | musashiden | Freemont, California |
| 00:48.31 | musashiden | anyways. what now? |
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| 00:48.41 | abrotman | you're using grub or lilo to boot ? |
| 00:48.48 | musashiden | i dont know |
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| 00:48.54 | abrotman | and don't let your friend go home! |
| 00:49.03 | musashiden | erm, ok |
| 00:49.06 | Roey | onetinsoldier: one sec. |
| 00:49.06 | sidezero | How might I pass a program to run a specific tty? I have figured out how to get the output to another tty but I need the program itself to run in that tty |
| 00:49.10 | stew | musashiden: which device are you booting from /dev/hda? |
| 00:49.14 | abrotman | musashiden: look for /etc/lilo.conf and /boot/grub/menu.lst .. are they both there or just one? |
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| 00:49.18 | freeone3000 | Hello, where are the Xorg modules kept now/where did they used to be kept besides /usr/lib/xorg? |
| 00:49.31 | bryan__ | exit |
| 00:49.32 | Roey | onetinsoldier: just the normal debian-amd64 deb sources. |
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| 00:49.55 | musashiden | abrotman: ok, grub is there |
| 00:50.02 | abrotman | musashiden: paste that file in #flood |
| 00:50.11 | abrotman | musashiden: or some other paste place |
| 00:50.14 | Roey | jesus christ, I think the only thing that can top this night off would be a problem with the lilo install, compounded either by a disk failure or me not having a knoppix CD handy. |
| 00:51.07 | onetinsoldier | Roey: if you really want to get it installed I can tell you how, but then you might get complaints from apt when trying to install stuff afterwards, or it might fix it with no complaints afterwards. don't know if i can help do this with the 64-bit version though, but i might be able to |
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| 00:51.16 | abrotman | who puts SATA in dual Xeon boxes anyways?!?! |
| 00:51.24 | Roey | onetinsoldier: I just want a kosher install. |
| 00:51.26 | musashiden | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/734300 |
| 00:51.36 | amphi | sidezero: use a script and chvt ? |
| 00:51.42 | abrotman | musashiden: that's the whole file ? |
| 00:51.49 | onetinsoldier | Roey: well, what it it again that it needs/wants installed right now? |
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| 00:52.00 | musashiden | no, everything else is commented out with # |
| 00:52.13 | Roey | onetinsoldier: so lemme be precise about this: |
| 00:52.13 | abrotman | eh .. grep -v \# /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 00:52.29 | abrotman | there should be at least one more line |
| 00:52.36 | stew | !paster |
| 00:52.43 | musashiden | http://pastebin.com/734303 |
| 00:52.59 | Roey | onetinsoldier: apt-get install x-window-system -> "depends: xorg but it is not going to be installed" |
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| 00:53.05 | musashiden | oh, wait |
| 00:53.23 | onetinsoldier | Roey: type in apt-get -d install xorg |
| 00:53.35 | Roey | onetinsoldier: apt-get install xorg -> "depends: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be install3ed |
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| 00:53.39 | Roey | onetinsoldier: what is -d ? |
| 00:53.43 | musashiden | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/734305 |
| 00:53.44 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 00:53.44 | onetinsoldier | download only |
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| 00:53.57 | freeone3000 | Roey: apt-get xutils... |
| 00:54.03 | abrotman | musashiden: ok .. hde1 is your / ? |
| 00:54.05 | freeone3000 | Roey: And so on, and so forth. |
| 00:54.16 | abrotman | musashiden: wtf is on hda-hdd ? |
| 00:54.32 | usual | the gui installer for debian is pretty nice |
| 00:54.32 | Roey | freeone3000: I've been over this ;) xutils wants something 6.8.1 or something like it. |
| 00:54.34 | musashiden | i dont know...the server is brand new... |
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| 00:54.53 | abrotman | musashiden: you installed it ... |
| 00:54.58 | Vme | can someone PM the correct entry for my sources.list for the nvidia-kernel-source file for ETCH? |
| 00:55.04 | Roey | onetinsoldier: apt-get -d install xorg -> "depends: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be install3ed |
| 00:55.07 | abrotman | musashiden: does /etc/fstab give you any hints about hda-hdd ? |
| 00:55.20 | stew | Roey: apt-get install xutils |
| 00:55.20 | onetinsoldier | Roey: ok.. hang on |
| 00:55.24 | abrotman | !tell vme about nvidia one-liner |
| 00:55.42 | sid | Vme: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Z9nbDF48.html |
| 00:55.48 | musashiden | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/734309 |
| 00:55.49 | sid | Vme: If I ran etch...that would be my sources.list |
| 00:55.51 | GaiaX11 | How can i configure another linux computer remotely? Through ssh? |
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| 00:56.10 | stew | GaiaX11: configure exactly what about it? |
| 00:56.10 | Roey | stew: sudo apt-get install xutils -> "depends: x11-common (>= 6.8.1) but it ist not going to be installed |
| 00:56.20 | stew | Roey: apt-get install x11-common |
| 00:56.34 | abrotman | musashiden: dmesg | grep hd .. anything useful ? |
| 00:56.39 | Roey | stew: and also, "x11-common is already the newest version" |
| 00:56.41 | stew | Roey: err apt-get install xutils x11-common |
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| 00:56.47 | Roey | stew: ok one sec. |
| 00:56.52 | stew | Roey: what version of x11-common do you have installed? |
| 00:56.56 | abrotman | how do you get hdb .. and hde .. but nothing else |
| 00:56.59 | chealer | Vme: I don't think there's a "correct" entry for that. nvidia-kernel-source isn't in Etch anymore |
| 00:57.16 | Vme | hrm |
| 00:57.19 | Vme | yea |
| 00:57.23 | dbe | GaiaX11, it's GNU/Linux if you mean the OS |
| 00:57.27 | Vme | so the "one-liner" won't work |
| 00:57.32 | GaiaX11 | The whole system: for example: wireless, synaptic etc... |
| 00:57.37 | musashiden | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/734312 |
| 00:57.49 | GaiaX11 | dbe, yes |
| 00:57.58 | stew | GaiaX11: apt-get install wireless-tools ; man 7 wireless ;man interfaces |
| 00:58.01 | Roey | stew: x11-common: Conflicts xutils (<= 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6) but 6.9.0.1-6 is to be installed |
| 00:58.05 | dbe | GaiaX11, ssh someip |
| 00:58.31 | gravity | Roey: Do you have some freakish mix of unstable and testing? |
| 00:58.34 | GaiaX11 | dbe, wireless was only an example |
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| 00:58.42 | Roey | gravity: testing nly. |
| 00:58.46 | Roey | er |
| 00:58.46 | abrotman | musashiden: i can't be 100% certain your HDD will be sda or sde when the machine restarts |
| 00:58.46 | Roey | no |
| 00:58.47 | Roey | nno |
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| 00:58.50 | Roey | gravity: I have only SID. |
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| 00:59.05 | abrotman | musashiden: is the CD drive also SATA ? |
| 00:59.08 | dbe | GaiaX11, try ssh 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:59.14 | stew | Roey: put the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy x11-common xutils" into a pastebin |
| 00:59.14 | gravity | s/SID/sid/ |
| 00:59.29 | abrotman | musashiden: ok .. i think it will be sde .. but please don't kill me if it's not right .. ;) |
| 00:59.29 | chealer | Vme: no, the one-liner rarely works |
| 00:59.34 | Vme | so |
| 00:59.43 | Vme | how can i make the nvidia a module ? |
| 00:59.48 | Vme | i have it working |
| 00:59.58 | dbe | GaiaX11, replace 127.. with the IP of the computer |
| 01:00.01 | Vme | i just don't want to have to run the install script everytime i compile my kernel |
| 01:00.05 | chealer | Vme: you could use the legacy drivers instead |
| 01:00.16 | Vme | are they just as good? |
| 01:00.21 | musashiden | abrotman: ok, so what do i do? |
| 01:00.22 | abrotman | musashiden: so .. for the two stanzas in your /boot/grub/menu.lst that refer to 2.6.8-3-686-smp .. |
| 01:00.33 | chealer | Vme: well, not really |
| 01:00.36 | abrotman | musashiden: change root=/dev/hde1 to root=/dev/sde1 |
| 01:00.36 | Vme | lol |
| 01:00.43 | abrotman | musashiden: this will involve more praying :) |
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| 01:00.55 | stew | abrotman: huh? you are having him edit stuff inside the automagic kenrel section? |
| 01:00.59 | musashiden | ....i hate god... |
| 01:01.09 | dbe | abrotman, have you tried UTUTO? |
| 01:01.09 | Vme | is there a way to get the source and compile? |
| 01:01.10 | abrotman | stew: he can't run update-grub .. it won't see them as sde |
| 01:01.12 | musashiden | no more praying |
| 01:01.13 | GaiaX11 | I have a friend that would like to see his machine tunned with his linux OS. But he lives in another place. Then could i configure his PC from my house using ssh? |
| 01:01.23 | Cars_Suck | where do you install fonts on ubuntu |
| 01:01.27 | onetinsoldier | Roey: i'm at a loss for right now if it won't even let you 'just download' the packages |
| 01:01.29 | abrotman | Cars_Suck: ask #ubuntu |
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| 01:01.34 | asg | Cars_Suck: ask #ubuntu |
| 01:01.36 | stew | GaiaX11: what exactly do you want to configure? |
| 01:01.41 | abrotman | stew: am i right? |
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| 01:01.54 | Roey | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2614 |
| 01:02.02 | chealer | Vme: the source for the legacy drivers kernel module? it's in nvidia-kernel-legacy-source |
| 01:02.04 | Roey | onetinsoldier: yeah, debian does this. |
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| 01:02.09 | abrotman | afaik .. update-grub will use current device nodes .. and put hde1 everywhere |
| 01:02.35 | stew | oh, amd64 |
| 01:02.45 | stew | gravity: is amd64 expected to be working currently? |
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| 01:02.59 | abrotman | musashiden: willing to try this ? |
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| 01:03.16 | gravity | stew: Should be... but I guess xbase-clients is currently broken |
| 01:03.25 | stew | abrotman: why wouldn't you change the # kopt line and run update-grub? |
| 01:03.36 | musashiden | abrotman: hold on, making sure its either sda or sde |
| 01:03.45 | abrotman | stew: cheater! |
| 01:03.48 | GaiaX11 | stew, Flash; jre; source.list; updating; upgrading; etc ... |
| 01:04.07 | abrotman | stew: mine was way more fun .. |
| 01:04.08 | carlb | quick question... how do I set the xfree86 resolution (xdm is looping when it tries to start)? |
| 01:04.48 | stew | Roey: it looks like you mirror is out of date, amd64 should have a newer version of xutils available, check http://packages.debian.org/xutils |
| 01:04.51 | stew | gravity: nm |
| 01:04.54 | abrotman | stew: there's also no way to guarantee it will be sde |
| 01:04.59 | gravity | ok |
| 01:05.04 | abrotman | well .. not without knowing more |
| 01:05.05 | Roey | stew: hmm, I wonder how that happened!? |
| 01:05.13 | stew | Roey: try a different mirror |
| 01:05.16 | abrotman | musashiden: stew mentioned the kopt line .. which you can change |
| 01:05.44 | Roey | stew: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ |
| 01:05.49 | stew | GaiaX11: /msg dpkg install java ; man sources.list ; editor sources.list ; apt-cache search flash ; apt-get install apt-howto, read /usr/share/doc/apt-howto |
| 01:05.51 | Roey | stew: t5hat's what my /etc/apt/sources.list says. |
| 01:06.18 | carlb | I got a nice debian kde install running on vmware workstation, but now it will not work on the player (seems like a resolution problem) |
| 01:06.39 | Roey | stew, gravity: which deb source would youguys recommand for amd64? |
| 01:06.58 | stew | Roey: just: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian main |
| 01:07.14 | Roey | (I've asked initally for help on #debian-amd64 but no one responded) |
| 01:07.19 | Roey | stew: ok.. |
| 01:07.21 | GaiaX11 | stew, I know how to do that. My question is if i can do that in another machine in another place through my machine in my home. |
| 01:07.31 | stew | GaiaX11: yes, all of that will work |
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| 01:07.35 | musashiden | abrotman: so it should look like this? http://pastebin.com/734326 |
| 01:08.00 | abrotman | musashiden: with as much as info as i have .. i'll consider that to be correct ... |
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| 01:08.10 | abrotman | musashiden: we could get a second opinion if you'd like :) |
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| 01:08.20 | musashiden | ok |
| 01:08.20 | carlb | can someone recomend a config utillity to set up X on debian? |
| 01:08.26 | lastnode | my deb install, when mounted via chroot, cant see my /dev/hda, so i cant install grub. any fixes? |
| 01:08.37 | dvs | carlb: apt-get install? |
| 01:08.40 | abrotman | musashiden: are you going to try it .. or are we waiting for a second opinion ? |
| 01:08.49 | Roey | stew: apt-get update / dist-upgrade indicates nothign to upgrade to... |
| 01:08.59 | thingfish | carlb: you want to install X, or configure it? |
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| 01:09.04 | carlb | configure |
| 01:09.08 | dust | hi. i'm using a toshiba notebook, every couple of hours (i haven't timed it) it just shuts down-- does anyone know anything about this? |
| 01:09.08 | onetinsoldier | Roey: try apt-get -f install |
| 01:09.12 | lastnode | i deboostrapped this install |
| 01:09.12 | thingfish | !drxx carlb |
| 01:09.12 | dpkg | carlb: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:09.14 | carlb | last time I did this was like 4 years ago |
| 01:09.28 | musashiden | abrotman: the 2.4 kernel is on hde, so i guess sde is the primary |
| 01:09.46 | Roey | onetinsoldier: ok.. |
| 01:09.47 | abrotman | musashiden: assuming that hda-hdd are SATA also .. that's the question .. yay! :) |
| 01:09.49 | Roey | onetinsoldier: stand by.. |
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| 01:10.00 | dvs | carlb: no excuse! ;-) |
| 01:10.11 | lastnode_ | any help would be awesome, im kinda booted from a livecd now :\ |
| 01:10.11 | carlb | thanks :-) |
| 01:10.13 | Roey | onetinsoldier: (still there is nothing to upgrade to) |
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| 01:10.34 | stew | Roey: apt-get install xorg |
| 01:10.36 | onetinsoldier | apt-get -f install didn't do anything at all? |
| 01:10.53 | lastnode_ | the kernel is compiled, everythign is ready, i just cant run grub-install /dev/hda because it cant see /dev/hda inside the chroot |
| 01:10.55 | GaiaX11 | stew, The thing is that my friend does not know how to configure his computer, then i think that i can do it for him from my house without going in his house. Is it possible to do that? Through ssh or other network service? |
| 01:10.57 | onetinsoldier | do what stew says... he knows better than me ;-) |
| 01:11.03 | stew | Roey: the mirror you are pointing at now _definately has xutils 7.0.0.3 |
| 01:11.06 | lastnode_ | ive tried mount -t proc none /mnt/debian/proc as well |
| 01:11.12 | stew | GaiaX11: yes |
| 01:11.31 | musashiden | ok, rebooting... |
| 01:11.41 | Roey | stew: the DE mirror hasit? |
| 01:11.53 | stew | Roey: yes |
| 01:11.54 | Roey | stew: here's the exact file I am using: |
| 01:11.54 | abrotman | musashiden: how'd it go .. the next obvious step would be to make those entries sda1 .. becuase hda-hdd in 2.4 are PATA .. and being picked up before the SATA controllers on the PCI bus |
| 01:12.01 | GaiaX11 | stew, ssh or is there another better? |
| 01:12.16 | stew | GaiaX11: ssh is good |
| 01:12.25 | musashiden | damnit. i guess it didnt work |
| 01:12.37 | abrotman | musashiden: stupid SATA/PATA |
| 01:12.53 | abrotman | musashiden: same thing again ? |
| 01:13.00 | musashiden | yup |
| 01:13.03 | abrotman | musashiden: last attempt .. we're going for sda1 |
| 01:13.16 | abrotman | because after that .. i'm just going to assume the machine hates 2.6 kernels |
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| 01:13.33 | raf256 | configuration error - unknown item 'FAIL_DELAY' (notify administrator) what should I do with it? while logging ssh |
| 01:13.34 | abrotman | or at least hates the debian package 2.6 |
| 01:13.34 | Roey | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2615 |
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| 01:13.59 | Roey | wb amphi |
| 01:14.02 | abrotman | s/package/packaged/ |
| 01:14.10 | GaiaX11 | stew, thanks! |
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| 01:14.30 | abrotman | stew: i thought you had 2.4.18 up on the kernel config site ... |
| 01:14.35 | onetinsoldier | Roey: it doesn't looked like you changed your sources.list to what was recommened |
| 01:14.37 | Roey | junix-other: hello Andrew |
| 01:14.42 | Roey | onetinsoldier: I didn't?? |
| 01:14.43 | stew | Roey: what is that? |
| 01:14.46 | junix-other | how do i grep something from multuiple files....? |
| 01:14.51 | Roey | onetinsoldier: that's my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:14.58 | stew | Roey: go to #kanotix |
| 01:15.03 | Roey | stew: what? |
| 01:15.04 | junix-other | i want to find a certain string in certain files |
| 01:15.08 | Roey | stew: I'm not using kanotix.. |
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| 01:15.30 | amphi | junix-other: grep |
| 01:15.42 | junix-other | grep..... |
| 01:15.47 | onetinsoldier | Roey: just: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian main ...that's what stew told you to change your sources.list to |
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| 01:15.51 | amphi | junix-other: grep foo * |
| 01:15.58 | putridx | any of you guys know how to find out if my nic is running at 1gb? |
| 01:16.00 | junix-other | ok thanks |
| 01:16.06 | abrotman | ethtool or mii-tool |
| 01:16.23 | thingfish | cool, sukhoi |
| 01:16.33 | thingfish | nice aircraft shot. |
| 01:16.36 | thingfish | *shop |
| 01:16.40 | Roey | onetinsoldier: yes, and it says 'malformed line 2' when I try that. |
| 01:17.03 | stew | Roey: why did you add kanotix sources? why didn't you use the official source i suggested? |
| 01:17.15 | Roey | stew: I'm not using the kanotix stuff! You see it commented out? :) |
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| 01:17.40 | Roey | stew: that's a remnant of something on another system when I copied the file over but I never had that kanotix line activated. |
| 01:17.44 | Roey | (i.e. uncommented) |
| 01:17.48 | putridx | i did "ifconfig" but I can't tell if it's running at 100mb or 1gb |
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| 01:18.34 | abrotman | musashiden: so what's the story? |
| 01:18.55 | stew | Roey: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main |
| 01:19.40 | Roey | yes |
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| 01:19.47 | VolVE | ok, total noob question - when I'm reading a man page, and I see notes at the bottom such as "See Also: exports(5)" how do I view that page? I tried 'man exports 5' and there's no man page... |
| 01:19.52 | Roey | and even like that, I get the same thing as I got before. |
| 01:20.04 | thingfish | VolVE: try man 5 exports |
| 01:20.07 | abrotman | VolVE: in that example 'man 5 exports' |
| 01:20.11 | musashiden | abrotman, rebooting now with sda |
| 01:20.20 | onetinsoldier | Roey: after entering that line in did you do an apt-get update |
| 01:20.22 | Roey | stew: once I have this apt-get updated, what is the next command? |
| 01:20.24 | VolVE | hmm |
| 01:20.28 | Roey | onetinsoldier: let me do it again just to be sure. |
| 01:20.28 | stew | Roey: apt-get install xorg |
| 01:20.31 | abrotman | musashiden: if this doesn't work .. i'll flog myself! |
| 01:20.38 | VolVE | "No manual entry for exports in section 5" |
| 01:20.39 | thingfish | curious, why am I now getting images of swedish automobiles... |
| 01:20.39 | VolVE | :( |
| 01:20.43 | Roey | stew: stand by |
| 01:20.50 | abrotman | VolVE: you might not have that installed |
| 01:20.50 | stew | Roey: do you have an /etc/apt/preferences ? |
| 01:21.07 | VolVE | abrotman: well that's sad, I'm trying to setup nfs :/ |
| 01:21.08 | abrotman | VolVE: you don't hvae all man pages installed by default |
| 01:21.19 | Roey | stew: xorg : Depends: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 01:21.30 | VolVE | thanks |
| 01:21.36 | musashiden | abrotman: didnt work |
| 01:21.41 | Roey | stew: out of intuition i checked for that but when I catted it, it was empty. |
| 01:21.48 | abrotman | musashiden: is your friend watching the console ? |
| 01:21.50 | musashiden | hahaha! just kidding. it worked :D |
| 01:21.56 | abrotman | musashiden: darn you! .. |
| 01:22.01 | thingfish | now that was in poor taste. |
| 01:22.01 | musashiden | :P |
| 01:22.17 | Roey | gravity: when? |
| 01:22.21 | abrotman | musashiden: and it sees 2GB ? |
| 01:22.25 | Roey | gravity: is this a recent thing, like in the past thirty seconds? |
| 01:22.25 | gravity | Roey: A while ago I'd imagine |
| 01:22.31 | gravity | I don't feel like digging up the build log |
| 01:22.34 | thingfish | musashiden gets -5 martha stewart points. |
| 01:22.35 | gravity | Roey: No |
| 01:22.35 | musashiden | abrotman: yup, thank you very much :) |
| 01:22.38 | Roey | gravity: I can't seem to install this thing. |
| 01:22.43 | dvs | and that's a good thing |
| 01:22.44 | raf256 | W: Bizarre Error - File size is not what the server reported 1178783 1598511 what the hell? |
| 01:22.48 | gravity | Roey: Do you not have this version of the package available? |
| 01:22.49 | abrotman | musashiden: glad it worked .. don't hold earlier against me! :) |
| 01:22.52 | thingfish | ;) dvs |
| 01:22.59 | stew | gravity: yeah, its definately on the mirrors too |
| 01:23.03 | musashiden | thingfish: aww, but i like marta stewart D: |
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| 01:23.06 | Roey | gravity: like I said, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2615 show smy /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 01:23.11 | litage | how can one log all commands entered during an ssh session? |
| 01:23.11 | stew | Roey: what does "apt-cache policy xutils" say for Candidate: ? |
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| 01:23.24 | thingfish | musashiden: I do too! She's my favorite ex con. |
| 01:23.28 | musashiden | Mem: 2076368k total |
| 01:23.28 | gravity | Roey: That doesn't answer my question |
| 01:23.31 | jsuther | Anyone here have experience with bandwidth throttling with the linux kernel? I'm looking to avaoid shelling out $3K for a newer cisco that could do it. So far all I can find on band-wdth throttling with linux is with iptables which does it by packet and not by byte or percentage like a cisco would. |
| 01:23.37 | musashiden | woot, 2GB goodness |
| 01:23.41 | onetinsoldier | Roey: and yeah... that does NOT have the sources as stew gave you |
| 01:23.44 | Roey | stew: Installed (none) / Candidate: 6.9.0-dfsg.1-6 |
| 01:23.44 | abrotman | musashiden: have a nice day! |
| 01:23.44 | gravity | Roey: If it's not on your mirror then your mirror isn't up to date |
| 01:23.48 | abrotman | or evening .. whichever |
| 01:23.49 | musashiden | thanks again~ |
| 01:23.55 | musashiden | evening :P |
| 01:24.04 | Roey | onetinsoldier: I changed it already!!!! there's no difference between main and "main contrib ..." |
| 01:24.10 | stew | Roey: then either a) you aren't using the official source i gave you, or b) you didn't run apt-get update |
| 01:24.22 | Roey | stew: ok, again: |
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| 01:24.29 | Roey | stew: let me change it and then I will paste a completely NEW file for you. |
| 01:24.32 | Roey | one second. |
| 01:24.43 | onetinsoldier | Roey: it has nothing to do with the 'main' and 'contrib' |
| 01:24.45 | initech | jsuther: look into qos, there is a traffic control how-to and several other docs out there |
| 01:24.49 | abrotman | VolVE: apt-file search exports.5.gz |
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| 01:25.01 | magyar | o fuck, debconf sounds like was a bunch of fun |
| 01:25.10 | Roey | onetinsoldier: what was the difference then?? |
| 01:25.12 | amahbod | i have an nvidia driver question if anyone wants to take a stab at it |
| 01:25.18 | thingfish | magyar: you're just thinking about the naked girl. |
| 01:25.20 | Roey | did I miss an "amd64" or something? |
| 01:25.23 | stew | no |
| 01:25.28 | Roey | onetinsoldier: (it is not obvious to me) |
| 01:25.29 | dvs | o_O |
| 01:25.30 | VolVE | thanks abrotman! |
| 01:25.32 | Roey | stew: oh? |
| 01:25.35 | Roey | one sec, pasting.. |
| 01:25.46 | onetinsoldier | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ unstable main deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian unstable main |
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| 01:25.52 | thingfish | tsk |
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| 01:26.02 | magyar | thingfish: i am thinking about the tequila and the absurd stories of Walther |
| 01:26.16 | thingfish | I'm going to /join #fedora and change my nick to yum. |
| 01:26.21 | amahbod | i downloaded and installed the nvidia driver from the nvidia website. i modified my xorg.conf file to use the nvidia, glx, and glcore... when i try to startx none of them were found |
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| 01:26.32 | gravity | thingfish: Please don't troll fedora |
| 01:26.41 | onetinsoldier | Roey: you see the difference there? |
| 01:26.42 | abrotman | you don't have to .. they have thier own users |
| 01:26.42 | Roey | onetinsoldier, stew, gravity: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2616 |
| 01:26.48 | Roey | onetinsoldier: (no?) |
| 01:26.49 | VolVE | no results sadly |
| 01:27.06 | abrotman | VolVE: apt-file update |
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| 01:27.11 | Werdna | hey guys |
| 01:27.14 | Roey | onetinsoldier: I apologize if it seems stupid on my part... am I missing something blindlingy obvious? |
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| 01:27.22 | thingfish | gravity: oh don't worry - I was there from before fc1. I have tons of friends there, who I still keep in touch with. I would never cause trouble there. well, I mean not much at least. ;) |
| 01:27.26 | stew | or in the famous words of our x maintainer |
| 01:27.30 | Werdna | anybody know of a decent dns daemon for debian? |
| 01:27.37 | Roey | stew: :( |
| 01:27.39 | onetinsoldier | Roey: the difference is the removal of.... debian-amd64 |
| 01:27.40 | Roey | stew: what am I doing wrong? |
| 01:27.42 | Roey | OHHHHHHHHHHHHHh |
| 01:27.43 | Roey | dah |
| 01:27.46 | dvs | duh! |
| 01:27.47 | dondelelcaro | Werdna: like bind? |
| 01:27.49 | Roey | onetinsoldier: ahhhhhhhh....darg |
| 01:27.50 | abrotman | stew: you can't follow directions ? |
| 01:27.50 | Roey | one sec. |
| 01:27.55 | gravity | hehe |
| 01:27.58 | gravity | stew++ |
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| 01:28.09 | Roey | onetinsoldier: thanks, one sec. |
| 01:28.21 | onetinsoldier | roger |
| 01:28.27 | Werdna | ah, the standard one, sounds good |
| 01:28.30 | Werdna | thanks, dondelelcaro. |
| 01:28.30 | thingfish | and gravity, I wouldn't troll anywhere. it hurts that you think I would do something like that. |
| 01:28.53 | Supaplex | Werdna: there's also dnsmasq, depending on the role. |
| 01:28.55 | amahbod | can anyone give me a hand with my nvidia driver problem? |
| 01:28.56 | Werdna | uh, thanks, Supaplex. |
| 01:29.01 | gravity | thingfish: I'm just trying to make sure I'm not letting people go troll other distros. I hate it when other distros do it to us. Nothing personal. |
| 01:29.08 | Werdna | Supaplex, what's the difference? |
| 01:29.17 | amahbod | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.21 | abrotman | gravity: is that what you think ubuntu users do here? |
| 01:29.21 | Supaplex | apt-cache show foo |
| 01:29.23 | Supaplex | :) |
| 01:29.26 | Roey | oh. |
| 01:29.29 | gravity | heh |
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| 01:29.34 | _ericb | hi all |
| 01:29.41 | Roey | It would appear that I have around 430 megs to upgrade to. |
| 01:29.48 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 01:29.51 | Roey | ah, the smell of fresh packages in the morning. |
| 01:29.53 | Roey | one sec. |
| 01:29.54 | Supaplex | amahbod: mistake #1, using the installer from the site. |
| 01:29.57 | Roey | I am armed with mighty connection. |
| 01:30.00 | dvs | _ericb: where's Rakim? |
| 01:30.04 | amahbod | Supaplex, ? |
| 01:30.14 | Supaplex | !nvidia |
| 01:30.15 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 01:30.17 | Roey | onetinsoldier: how can I be sure that this is amd64 and not ia32 though? (my kernel is amd64) |
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| 01:30.26 | Roey | Supaplex: eh??? |
| 01:30.28 | Roey | Supaplex: doh! |
| 01:30.28 | onetinsoldier | Roey: i do wonder if they'll be 64-bit packages though |
| 01:30.30 | amahbod | !nvidia one-liner |
| 01:30.30 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 01:30.37 | Roey | onetinsoldier: same here. |
| 01:30.38 | thingfish | gravity: I'm an adult. I may have my fun, but I know when not to cross the line. I may absolutely be crazy over Debian, but I'm not going to go insult other users of any other linux distro, unless it's the kind of friendly teasing that goes on between old acquaintances. |
| 01:30.38 | Roey | gravity: hi |
| 01:30.54 | gravity | uh |
| 01:30.55 | thingfish | well, except for gentoo maybe. |
| 01:31.08 | Roey | gravity: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2616 shows my /etc/apt/sources.list. Will this upgrade to amd64 packages, do you know? |
| 01:31.10 | dvs | thingfish: but ubuntu people are so smart. |
| 01:31.16 | gravity | Roey: I don't run amd64 |
| 01:31.21 | gravity | Roey: Never have |
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| 01:31.39 | gravity | I know about X, not amd64 |
| 01:31.40 | thingfish | dvs: indeed! I've been so impressed every time I've popped into #ubuntu. what a fine distro. |
| 01:31.58 | thingfish | just kidding! |
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| 01:32.11 | Roey | back. |
| 01:32.15 | Roey | Supaplex: thanks |
| 01:32.15 | onetinsoldier | stew: you still here? |
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| 01:32.19 | stew | onetinsoldier: yeah |
| 01:32.19 | torpid | What would be the best way to disable xdm in sarge? |
| 01:32.21 | woodland | hi when i installed gnome-core using aptitude , 244 MB was installed but when i am trying to purge gnome-core using aptitude terminal is saying that only 15 MB will be freed. why is that. doesnt aptitude take care of dependencies automatically |
| 01:32.23 | thingfish | there needs to be a sarcasm emoticon. |
| 01:32.26 | Thanatermesis | stew, just testing ivman 0.6.12... things strange here, can you enter on #elive-unstable ? |
| 01:32.38 | Supaplex | thingfish: what's ;) for then? |
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| 01:32.39 | abrotman | haha |
| 01:32.55 | Coweater | !tell torpid -about nodm |
| 01:32.55 | thingfish | torpid: sysvconfig is a real easy way. |
| 01:32.55 | onetinsoldier | stew: you see Roey's concern about getting 64-bit packages from that source? |
| 01:32.55 | Azar | torpid: I have removed it |
| 01:32.55 | abrotman | stew: i see it! |
| 01:32.55 | Roey | onetinsoldier, stew: so does this mean it'll updated to amd64 packages?(after I removed the amd64 from the source line) |
| 01:33.03 | torpid | I don't want to delete it |
| 01:33.06 | stew | onetinsoldier: yes |
| 01:33.12 | Azar | torpid: you can allways reinstall it |
| 01:33.14 | Coweater | torpid: read that msg, it explains |
| 01:33.17 | torpid | I just don't want it to run at startup.. is there some rc script I can remove or something? |
| 01:33.25 | thingfish | Supaplex: it does help to use that, doesn't it. |
| 01:33.35 | onetinsoldier | stew: so... do you know if he's going to end up only getting 32-bit packages? |
| 01:33.42 | Supaplex | thingfish: or </sarcasm> :) hehehe |
| 01:33.53 | woodland | hi can anybody answer me please |
| 01:33.53 | stew | onetinsoldier: yes |
| 01:34.04 | Roey | abrotman: what with the laughing? :) |
| 01:34.08 | onetinsoldier | stew: roger |
| 01:34.10 | Supaplex | !tell woodland -about ask |
| 01:34.16 | abrotman | Roey: eh? |
| 01:34.19 | Roey | abrotman: nm |
| 01:34.27 | abrotman | Roey: no more molson for you |
| 01:34.33 | woodland | Supaplex, i just asked it a while ago. |
| 01:34.38 | dvs | abrotman: Labatts! |
| 01:34.38 | thingfish | mmm |
| 01:34.51 | stew | Thanatermesis: why? |
| 01:35.02 | Roey | abrotman, stew, onetinsoldier, gravity: so given my /etc/apt/sources.list on http://channels.debian.net/paste/2616, am I upgrading to ia32 or amd64 packages? (I run debian-amd64 sid) |
| 01:35.17 | Thanatermesis | stew, im trying ivman with one person via ssh, just for comment the things strange to i look to happens |
| 01:35.27 | woodland | hi when i installed gnome-core using aptitude , 244 MB was installed but when i am trying to purge gnome-core using aptitude terminal is saying that only 15 MB will be freed. why is that. doesnt aptitude take care of dependencies automatically |
| 01:35.35 | Supaplex | woodland: then restate your question a different way. I understand your question, but I (and others) apparently don't know. |
| 01:35.48 | onetinsoldier | Roey: stew says ia32 |
| 01:35.51 | abrotman | Roey: why are you using that source? |
| 01:35.54 | stew | onetinsoldier: i never said that! |
| 01:35.55 | dvs | !tell woodland -about remove gnome |
| 01:35.58 | Azar | woodland: yes aptitude takes care of dependencies |
| 01:35.59 | Thanatermesis | for example, i look to if the entry exist on fstab, it mounts... if not, not mounts it, do you know anything about this stuff ? stew |
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| 01:36.11 | thingfish | man, did I actually say I was an adult earlier? |
| 01:36.15 | onetinsoldier | stew: sorry.. that's what i asked you and that's how i interpreted you answer |
| 01:36.16 | thingfish | heh I wish. |
| 01:36.21 | woodland | Azar, but why i am getting such weird response |
| 01:36.22 | abrotman | shouldn't it be a regular repository for sid amd64 ? |
| 01:36.32 | stew | onetinsoldier: you asked me if i know what would happen with his sources.list and I do, that is all |
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| 01:36.50 | onetinsoldier | stew: so... do you know if he's going to end up only getting 32-bit packages? |
| 01:37.01 | Azar | woodland: woodland look at what the bot message sent by the people here has to tell you |
| 01:37.14 | woodland | Azar, ok |
| 01:37.25 | Roey | abrotman: because they told me to!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( |
| 01:37.37 | abrotman | shouldn't it be a regular repository for sid amd64 ? |
| 01:37.44 | stew | abrotman: amd64 is in the main mirrors now |
| 01:37.51 | Roey | abrotman: I kept posting my /etc/apt/sources.list, and they kept chastising me for not removing the amd64 bit!!! arg!!! :) |
| 01:37.58 | Roey | stew: it is? |
| 01:37.59 | Roey | hm |
| 01:38.02 | abrotman | stew: that's what i'm asking .. so based on roey's soruces .. aren't they wrong ? |
| 01:38.04 | _ericb | I've fully configured my printer under cups, but some applications print correctly, some not.. as example, open office prints correctly, firefox don't. Any application that tries to print to lp doesn't succeed. However thoes that are cups aware succeed. How can I solve that ? |
| 01:38.19 | onetinsoldier | stew: so... do you know if he's going to end up only getting 32-bit packages? stew... you replay was.... onetinsoldier: yes |
| 01:38.24 | Azar | amd64 is the big unknown which the people fear and hate, Roey |
| 01:38.26 | onetinsoldier | *reply |
| 01:38.30 | torpid | how do I run the networking script? |
| 01:38.35 | stew | onetinsoldier: yes. i know exactly what is going to happen with roeys sources. |
| 01:38.37 | Roey | Azar: why does this arch suck so much!?!! |
| 01:38.49 | torpid | I have my /etc/network/interfaces configured the way I like it |
| 01:38.49 | Supaplex | torpid: /etc/init.d/network |
| 01:38.54 | Azar | Roey: because it came ahead of time? |
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| 01:39.02 | Roey | Azar: it's been two years now!! |
| 01:39.16 | Azar | Roey: yes but some software are not ready yet for it |
| 01:39.27 | onetinsoldier | stew: scroll up and read and i think you'll understand how i took your reply man... i know it's just a simple misunderstanding, but i think it's pretty easy to see why if you scroll up |
| 01:39.55 | stew | abrotman: yes. his sources are wrong. i've told him twice. i gave him the correct sources to use twice. he's still using the incorrect ones |
| 01:40.06 | abrotman | Roey: wise up already .. listen to stew! |
| 01:40.12 | onetinsoldier | stew: he did get it correct now though |
| 01:40.13 | Azar | manufacturers rushed into sata, 64bit, dual core and other stuff that has no proper or ready tested software for it. |
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| 01:40.32 | Roey | onetinsoldier: yes, and I have ~400 megs to upgrade to. But I don't know their arch. |
| 01:40.38 | onetinsoldier | stew: i had to show him by putting his old line right next to the one you gave him... |
| 01:41.39 | Roey | stew: ok, I got that I had to remove the "amd-64" bit. I did that. I have a buncha packages to upgrade to. So my question now is, how can we verify the arch of the candidate upgrades? |
| 01:41.46 | onetinsoldier | Roey: well, now stew is saying that the 64-bit sources are included in the regualr mirrors.. so apparently you'll get 64-bit.. i guess |
| 01:41.48 | Roey | stew: apt-cache policy doesn't list the arch. |
| 01:42.06 | Roey | onetinsoldier: maybe there is something I can ccheck with. Like xmms, say. |
| 01:42.06 | Roey | one sec. |
| 01:42.45 | Roey | ok, so I apt-got installed xmms-stats. |
| 01:42.55 | Roey | and I checked its arch with apt-cache show xmms-stats. |
| 01:42.58 | Roey | and it says amd64. |
| 01:42.59 | Roey | fine. |
| 01:43.04 | Roey | lemme try with a few more. |
| 01:43.15 | Thanatermesis | stew, well.. this versions make strange things... i think to i turn to use the old version again, changing the pacakge version |
| 01:44.32 | Roey | OK |
| 01:44.36 | onetinsoldier | Roey: ok... sounds like you're all set now. have fun |
| 01:44.46 | Roey | onetinsoldier, abrotman, stew, gravity: 200 OK. upgrading. |
| 01:44.48 | Roey | finally. |
| 01:44.49 | Roey | heh |
| 01:44.51 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 01:44.52 | Roey | thanks guys :) |
| 01:45.24 | Roey | you people are worth your weight in ghz, we should get together over beers at the next debconf. |
| 01:45.44 | Roey | woohoo, 723 kB/s |
| 01:45.45 | abrotman | monkey~ |
| 01:45.49 | _ericb | I have a weird problem with cups and lp... looks like lp isn't redirecting jobs to cups.. I configured my printer with cups, I can print test page, I can print in openoffice, but other than that most applications (using lp as printer) aren't working.. I think I must configure lp to bind it to cups.. any pointer on how to do it |
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| 01:46.02 | Roey | does apt-get compress the transfers, btw? |
| 01:46.05 | Roey | I always wondered. |
| 01:46.27 | Roey | !nvidia |
| 01:46.27 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 01:46.30 | sid | Roey: apt-get per se doesn't do it...but the data is compressed when it's transfered yet. |
| 01:46.40 | Roey | oh, that's compressed... ok |
| 01:46.47 | onetinsoldier | yeah... i think deb's are compressed aren't they? |
| 01:46.47 | sid | Roey: When you install something...apt-get tells you how much you have to download and how much space will be used after installation. |
| 01:46.50 | Roey | sid: so it's not /really/ going that fast. |
| 01:46.57 | Roey | sid: when it lists 723 kB/s |
| 01:47.08 | sid | Roey: no it's really going that fast. |
| 01:47.13 | Roey | oh! ok then! |
| 01:47.22 | Roey | sid: I mean it's being compressed. |
| 01:47.39 | Roey | sid: it's not transferring that many total bytes that quickly though... |
| 01:47.44 | Roey | sid: well you know what I mean |
| 01:47.45 | sid | Roey: yes it is. |
| 01:48.00 | abrotman | Roey: and i was suppoised to be soldering! |
| 01:48.03 | Roey | sid: because the data is compressed, yeah, but if the data were not compressed, the transfer would not be as fast? |
| 01:48.14 | sid | Roey: yes it would be as fast. |
| 01:48.20 | Roey | abrotman: and I pulled you aside and begged for help and you helped me and I thank you profusely for it, thanks ) :) :) :) |
| 01:48.25 | Roey | sid: ok. |
| 01:48.33 | sid | Roey: Your network doesn't care if the data is compressed or not...doesn't matter. It will take any data and transfer it at the same speed. |
| 01:48.49 | sid | As long as you are able to download at that speed, and they are able to send at that speed. That's all that matters. |
| 01:48.51 | Roey | sid: lemme put it this way... that 723 kB/s is throughput of the raw t4ansfer or of the compressed throughput? |
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| 01:49.04 | Roey | abrotman: whatcha soldering |
| 01:49.07 | Roey | ? |
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| 01:49.14 | Roey | ugarit: that's a language, you know? |
| 01:49.19 | sid | Roey: That's raw transfer |
| 01:49.20 | Roey | or a city... I think. |
| 01:49.23 | Roey | sid: oh, ok then. |
| 01:49.25 | Roey | thanks |
| 01:49.33 | _ericb | anyway.. nobody have a pointer on how to bind lp to cups and solve my problem described above ? |
| 01:51.21 | Supaplex | _ericb: there are some bsd/lpd/cups package(s). I forget the exact one, but it allows you to interface lpd thinking programs into cups. (sort of a shim lpr->cups) |
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| 01:51.33 | stew | Thanatermesis: is there a hal policy set? |
| 01:51.48 | stew | Thanatermesis: when the entry is in fstab it mounts fine using ivman but otherwise it doesn't? |
| 01:51.54 | Thanatermesis | yes, the same to the 0.6.10 version stew, to works good |
| 01:52.05 | Thanatermesis | exact |
| 01:52.10 | stew | Thanatermesis: are you saying to 0.6.10 works and 0.6.12 doesn't |
| 01:52.21 | Thanatermesis | 0.6.10 without problems |
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| 01:52.33 | stew | Thanatermesis: can you reproduce this on debian? |
| 01:52.46 | raf256 | msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 01:52.49 | _ericb | Supaplex apt-cache cups lp isn't really helpfull.. have more information ? |
| 01:53.02 | stew | Thanatermesis: what version of hal do you have installed? |
| 01:53.14 | Supaplex | try searching for cups, w/ your favorite $PAGER |
| 01:53.52 | Thanatermesis | stew, well, the system *is* a debian... the diferences is: ivman launched by user "ivman --nofork" when log on X, no more processes of ivman... it use the special .ivman conf files for make the actions |
| 01:54.00 | Thanatermesis | IvmConfig/IvmConfigCommon.c:312 (ivm_device_is_mountable) Won't try to mount device /dev/sda1, as it is already mounted |
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| 01:54.21 | Thanatermesis | this is the message to i receive when the entry is on fstab... |
| 01:54.22 | stew | Thanatermesis: if the system is debian why do you want me to join #elive-unstable to talk about it? |
| 01:54.35 | abrotman | because debian doesn't have a livecd? :) |
| 01:54.41 | raf256 | W: GPG error: http://192.168.44.20 unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <ftpmaster@debian.org> wtf? |
| 01:54.45 | Thanatermesis | if is not on fstab, don't try to mount anything and show simply a message similar to: IvmConfig/IvmConfigCommon.c:319 (ivm_device_is_mountable) Device /dev/sda1 appears to be mountable |
| 01:54.46 | raf256 | I got the 2006 keys |
| 01:54.59 | abrotman | raf256: your mirror doesn't have keys? |
| 01:55.09 | raf256 | abrotman: I only use apt proxy |
| 01:55.11 | Thanatermesis | version of hal: 0.5.7-1 |
| 01:55.15 | Thanatermesis | system ETCH |
| 01:55.22 | gravity | gyah |
| 01:55.28 | raf256 | with backend ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ |
| 01:55.44 | stew | Thanatermesis: wait so it is saying that sda1 is already mounted when it isn't already mounted? |
| 01:55.47 | dondelelcaro | raf256: is that a new version of apt-proxy? |
| 01:56.04 | raf256 | dondelelcaro: apt-proxy 1.9.x |
| 01:56.04 | Thanatermesis | stew, basically i have say to join the channel just because is here one person of im trying all this stuff via ssh.. but well.. not really needed |
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| 01:56.18 | raf256 | dondelelcaro: 1.9.33-0.1 |
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| 01:57.04 | dondelelcaro | raf256: hrm... should work.. since you've pulled a bad sig though, something is most likely wrong with either the Release or the Release.gpg files |
| 01:57.20 | Thanatermesis | stew, not really... the message of to "try to mount but appears also mounted" is only when the entry is on fstab... i supose to if is not mounted, it mounts good... but if the entry not is in fstab, just don't try to mount |
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| 01:57.41 | stew | Thanatermesis: is the user in the plugdev group? |
| 01:57.48 | raf256 | dondelelcaro: or my connection borked... hmm strange... can I make apt-proxy to redownload signature files from backend agian? |
| 01:57.52 | VanacaErkan | Help ... Hey guys is there a way to restore deleted files (roleback) at the debian webserver? I think I removed (rm -R) a folder by mistake.. |
| 01:57.54 | Thanatermesis | yes (verifying...) |
| 01:58.08 | Thanatermesis | exact |
| 01:58.14 | dondelelcaro | raf256: deleting them from the cache iwll probably work |
| 01:58.28 | dondelelcaro | VanacaErkan: if you're using ext2, you can use e2undel; otherwise |
| 01:58.45 | cureless | VanacaErkan: normally if you rm it it's gone. |
| 01:59.04 | cureless | VanacaErkan: you might be lucky and maybe you haven't overwritten the data, then some undelete might work. |
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| 01:59.36 | stew | Thanatermesis: and i'm not sure if i understood, does it work if ivman is started from the init script? |
| 01:59.37 | dondelelcaro | VanacaErkan: if this is a normal problem, you should use libtrash |
| 01:59.37 | cureless | VanacaErkan: there are also some programs that recover chunks of data of certain data types (like jpegs), but those are more hit-or-miss. |
| 02:00.14 | VanacaErkan | dondelelcaro, cureless I ment to (mv) not rm ,, |
| 02:00.32 | Thanatermesis | not tested... just from user for now, let me try it... |
| 02:00.54 | cureless | VanacaErkan: the first thing you want is probably to unmount the partition in that case to make sure you don't overwrite stuff. |
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| 02:01.47 | Roey | stew: thou hath shutteth me up. |
| 02:01.53 | Roey | *shut |
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| 02:02.23 | Roey | stew: it's still downloading packages... what was I updating from all this time then?? (I was still getting new packages ffrom that old source somehow) |
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| 02:03.01 | jgould | *grumble* |
| 02:03.14 | Roey | jgould: whatup |
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| 02:03.16 | raf256 | Need to get 1625MB of archives. ... OMFG! WTF? in debian unstable |
| 02:03.24 | Roey | raf256: how did you get that? |
| 02:03.31 | raf256 | dist-upgrade |
| 02:03.33 | Roey | raf256: (when did you last dist-upgrade?) |
| 02:03.35 | cureless | raf256: how many packages do you have installed? |
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| 02:03.40 | jgould | Roey: Samba issues... |
| 02:03.43 | raf256 | like 2 weeks ago.. WTF |
| 02:03.45 | Roey | jgould: oh. |
| 02:03.48 | VanacaErkan | cureless, do u mean undelete might over writes the previously removed stuff too? |
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| 02:03.58 | Roey | raf256: heh, I have 400 megs to upgrade to apparently. |
| 02:04.00 | Roey | mysefl. |
| 02:04.04 | raf256 | Roey: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=16032 |
| 02:04.11 | cureless | VanacaErkan: no, but processes that use the partition might be overwriting the data that those files used to have. |
| 02:04.25 | raf256 | Z0MFG |
| 02:04.43 | jgould | I can't authenticate to the printer even though I can browse the machine to my hearts content |
| 02:04.53 | raf256 | ah |
| 02:04.53 | cureless | heh, I only have 64M. |
| 02:04.54 | raf256 | :) |
| 02:05.03 | raf256 | turns out I did apt-get clean |
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| 02:05.05 | stew | Roey: you were updating from an unofficial, no longer maintained mirror |
| 02:05.07 | woodland | i read the bot for 'remove gnome' but i want to know how to remove gnome completely using aptitude on 'command-line' |
| 02:05.15 | raf256 | fortunatelly all data is still in apt-prox cache |
| 02:05.33 | raf256 | so I have to "download" 80% from local host cache, and only like 200 mb probably from net |
| 02:05.46 | stew | Roey: /msg dpkg remove gnome ; but where it says apt-get remove --purge, substitude aptitude purge |
| 02:05.49 | Roey | stew: but somehow it was still updating! |
| 02:05.58 | dvs | woodland: What's wrong with apt-get? |
| 02:06.08 | Roey | stew: what?? |
| 02:06.19 | woodland | dvs, apt-get doesnt remove 'depends' automatically |
| 02:06.19 | stew | Roey: sorry, nm |
| 02:06.27 | stew | woodland: /msg dpkg remove gnome ; but where it says apt-get remove --purge, substitude aptitude purge |
| 02:06.35 | stew | substitute* |
| 02:06.40 | Roey | oh, o. |
| 02:06.41 | Roey | ok. |
| 02:06.45 | dvs | woodland: Exactly. So you can be sure that all of gnome is removed. |
| 02:07.07 | dvs | Oh? It doesn't remove depends? I doubt that. |
| 02:07.08 | VolVE | hey all, so I installed Sarge and at the mail configuration step I said "no configuration at this time" but I've subsequently forgotten the command to get back to that step now that my system is up and running... anyone know? :) |
| 02:07.23 | woodland | dvs, but i did that and all the gnome is not being removed which is about 244 MB |
| 02:07.53 | stew | VolVE: what does "dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail" say? |
| 02:07.54 | abrotman | dpkg-reconfigure exim |
| 02:08.01 | stew | 4-config |
| 02:08.48 | woodland | stew, so should i do 'aptitude purge libgnome2-common gnome-core' ? i dont have libgnome32 installed |
| 02:08.53 | abrotman | doesn't sarge default to exim3 ? |
| 02:08.54 | VolVE | thanks abrotman |
| 02:09.00 | VolVE | you're my hero tonight :D |
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| 02:09.06 | jgould | Mine did |
| 02:09.14 | amahbod | i tried doing the nvidia one-liner |
| 02:09.16 | stew | woodland: yes |
| 02:09.19 | abrotman | VolVE: i'll take beer as pay! |
| 02:09.23 | thingfish | no, exim4. |
| 02:09.29 | amahbod | and my xserver crashes |
| 02:09.29 | cureless | abrotman: how many nights do you hear: <VolVE> you're my hero tonight :D |
| 02:09.33 | jgould | !beer abrotman |
| 02:09.35 | thingfish | at least here. |
| 02:09.36 | abrotman | i think i have one system running exim |
| 02:09.48 | thingfish | 3.1r2. |
| 02:09.54 | amahbod | "Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X11/x(xf86SigHandler+0x88) [0x80b8d98] |
| 02:09.55 | amahbod | " |
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| 02:10.03 | amahbod | is this a common error? |
| 02:10.08 | jgould | LOL |
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| 02:10.28 | woodland | stew, but why wont just 'aptitude purge gnome-core' do ? since thats what i installed using aptitude. i didnt install any lib explicitly |
| 02:10.36 | amahbod | i think the problem may be that I had tried using nvidia's installer (the one on their site) before i knew about the debian one |
| 02:10.37 | abrotman | VolVE: maybe some day i'll be in your neighborhood :) |
| 02:10.48 | amahbod | does anyone know a way i can fix this |
| 02:11.02 | stew | woodland: what happens when you try that? |
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| 02:12.22 | woodland | stew, when i first installed gnome-core using aptitude 244 MB was installed, but while purging gnome-core , aptitude is saying that only 15 MB will be freed |
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| 02:12.28 | VolVE | abrotman: well, hopefully I will have broken something else by then :D |
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| 02:12.32 | shampoo | Hi everyone |
| 02:12.38 | shampoo | I need some help with bind |
| 02:12.42 | shampoo | i want my MX records to point to another host, another domain |
| 02:12.43 | abrotman | duct tape |
| 02:12.54 | shampoo | oskie: gmail hosting |
| 02:12.56 | abrotman | VolVE: you never know where i'll end up :) |
| 02:13.09 | Roey | dvs: the red green show?? |
| 02:13.09 | stew | woodland: you filed a bug about that already right? did the maintainer comment on it? |
| 02:13.18 | dvs | Roey: Yup |
| 02:13.19 | stew | woodland: about a font package iirc? |
| 02:13.21 | Roey | dvs: they're gone?? |
| 02:13.24 | Roey | dvs: since when? |
| 02:13.37 | dvs | Roey: A few weeks about. 300 shows in total. |
| 02:13.39 | abrotman | didn't he die ? |
| 02:13.45 | dvs | abrotman: no |
| 02:13.46 | woodland | stew, no i didnt file bug about iirc |
| 02:13.46 | Thanatermesis | stew, aha, it works using the init script, without the fstab entry, maybe is a diferences between scripts... let me make some tests, im tell you when i have the results |
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| 02:14.03 | abrotman | !punish woodland |
| 02:14.04 | Roey | dvs: heh, I wonder why they got canceled? |
| 02:14.04 | dvs | *ago |
| 02:14.08 | stew | woodland: we discussed it before and decided you should, right? or am i thinking of someone else? |
| 02:14.18 | dvs | Roey: It's more like he retired |
| 02:14.24 | Roey | dvs: alright. He was great. |
| 02:14.28 | stew | Thanatermesis: is the user in the plugdev group? |
| 02:14.29 | jgould | HOw do I link my windows username to my linux user name |
| 02:14.35 | Thanatermesis | yes stew |
| 02:14.44 | Roey | dvs: also the one who played his inept-but-smart nephew |
| 02:14.54 | dvs | Roey: What about him? |
| 02:14.54 | abrotman | stew: no .. you're right (or this is a test that i failed) |
| 02:14.54 | Roey | or not nephew.. whatever he was in relation to him |
| 02:15.03 | woodland | stew, no its me, actually did you mean filing bug about 'aptitude' |
| 02:15.05 | stew | Thanatermesis: can they mount it by calling pmount directly? |
| 02:15.24 | Roey | dvs: I especially enjoyed their mcguyver-like skits |
| 02:15.37 | Roey | dvs: making a shelter out of... sheet metal.. or something like that. |
| 02:15.55 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 02:16.56 | Thanatermesis | maybe the $HOME/.ivman configurations are too old for htis version of ivman stew... mmmh, this not sounds very good for the users to use a home configurations :/ |
| 02:17.50 | stew | Thanatermesis: can you try moving the .ivman directory so that a fresh one gets created? |
| 02:17.54 | raf256 | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/manpages-dev_2.28-1_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 02:17.56 | raf256 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:17.58 | raf256 | how to fix? |
| 02:18.20 | Thanatermesis | stew, yes, give me a second, i make this kind of tests... |
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| 02:19.42 | jgould | *Grumble* |
| 02:20.17 | chealer | raf256: did you consider using sid's glibc-doc? |
| 02:20.29 | raf256 | chealer: why? |
| 02:20.56 | chealer | raf256: who knows, it might (partially) fix the bug |
| 02:21.03 | raf256 | I just need to tell atp-get "fuck off, m* f*, just install it already, I dont give a s* about the overwriting, force it." |
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| 02:23.14 | onetinsoldier | raf256: i don't know about now, but you used to be able to specify(in apt preferences) that you wanted --force things automatically without having to put it in the command |
| 02:23.38 | chealer | raf256: just remember to propose switching to your perfect version of APT before the next Debian release |
| 02:24.07 | onetinsoldier | err.. sorry... i meant (in apt preferences?) |
| 02:24.24 | raf256 | chealer: ? |
| 02:24.31 | abrotman | jgould: i think the samba docs cover what you're asking |
| 02:24.33 | onetinsoldier | but the more i think about i think i had to do a 'hack' to accomplish it |
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| 02:24.45 | chealer | onetinsoldier: that's not really what he's requesting though |
| 02:24.48 | abrotman | middletown! |
| 02:24.52 | onetinsoldier | ok.. roger |
| 02:25.17 | Supaplex | !force |
| 02:25.17 | dpkg | i heard force is a widely known, and not so well documented *cough* redhat /feature/. It's suppose to break.... right? |
| 02:25.34 | psychonate | Famd is using up 95% of my CPU. I know not much about famd, but that seems somewhat abnormal. Should I just try to restart famd? |
| 02:25.43 | chealer | raf256: sorry, I meant to say "**** *** and go write something better" |
| 02:25.53 | Roey | heya chealer |
| 02:26.00 | chealer | hi Roey |
| 02:26.08 | abrotman | psychonate: sure .. why not |
| 02:26.15 | Roey | ok, another question: why does w3m show messed up characters for me in console mode? |
| 02:26.15 | jgould | the docs have left me with more questions than anwsers, the sad thing is I had this working at one point, but my usernames were the same on both machines, that's the only thing that is diffent |
| 02:26.18 | abrotman | psychonate: did you just unplug a device ? |
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| 02:26.30 | psychonate | abrotman, not to my knowledge |
| 02:26.34 | abrotman | jgould: i think there's a mapping feature for samba |
| 02:26.48 | raf256 | chealer: dpkg --force-all -i .. |
| 02:26.49 | Roey | stew, abrotman, onetinsoldier: do messed up chars in w3m imply a wrong locale setting? |
| 02:26.50 | raf256 | fixed it |
| 02:27.04 | abrotman | Roey: possibly |
| 02:27.14 | Roey | hmm |
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| 02:27.55 | Roey | actually, en_US.UTF-8 |
| 02:27.57 | ohad_ | i know this is #debian.. but does anyone know anything about windows 2003 server (standard?) :/ i don't and i'm stuck |
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| 02:28.11 | dondelelcaro | ohad_: ask in a #windows on a different netowwrk |
| 02:28.12 | Roey | ohad_: there's a #windows too btw |
| 02:28.18 | Roey | dondelelcaro: they have a #windows here too |
| 02:28.29 | abrotman | i think it has two people |
| 02:28.31 | dondelelcaro | it's +s |
| 02:28.41 | Roey | abrotman: usually fuller there |
| 02:28.46 | Roey | what's +s ? |
| 02:28.48 | abrotman | Roey: on freenode? |
| 02:28.51 | Roey | abrotman: yes on freenode |
| 02:28.54 | Roey | abrotman: #windows. |
| 02:29.08 | Roey | abrotman: anyhow, w3m show sgarbage chars for me, and my locale is en_US.UTF-8. |
| 02:29.25 | psychonate | abrotman, according to 'top,' that did the trick |
| 02:29.34 | abrotman | psychonate: yay |
| 02:29.44 | psychonate | abrotman, though I'm not sure what caused the high usage in the first place |
| 02:29.55 | abrotman | psychonate: famd is a file alteration monitor |
| 02:29.57 | abrotman | !fam |
| 02:29.57 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, fam is a piece of software that monitors changes in inodes to track missing or deleted files. It is required by efm, and it is a bitch to compile with g++., or http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/, or something that requires an apt-get install portmap, or if lack of FAM is killing your courier-imap, build courier-imap from upstream source |
| 02:33.04 | Carbon_Monoxide | I got a prompt "Could not connect to host for smb://[network_group_name]/" when I'm trying to connection to samba server |
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| 02:34.06 | mond00 | how might i use to apt to install a 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:34.21 | jgould | there is and I enabled it and am still getting the messagae |
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| 02:34.51 | abrotman | mond00: sarge? etch/sid? |
| 02:34.54 | Carbon_Monoxide | but I can have the shared folders showed when I use smbclient to connect to the samba server |
| 02:35.08 | Roey | Carbon_Monoxide: awesome nick man |
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| 02:35.37 | mond00 | abrotman, gforge# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 02:35.37 | mond00 | 3.1 |
| 02:35.49 | Roey | hi |
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| 02:35.53 | Roey | oh, already here, sorry |
| 02:35.54 | broadcast | hi :) |
| 02:36.06 | Roey | =) |
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| 02:36.39 | abrotman | mond00: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
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| 02:38.01 | Roey | OHHHH shit, in The Simpsons ten years ago when Bart called Moe's Tavern and asked for Olly Tabooger, he was trying to get Moe to say that he'd eat snot. Now I get it! Ha! muahahahaha! |
| 02:38.12 | mond00 | looks like newest is kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 |
| 02:38.14 | zenwryly | I have python2.4 installed. dpkg -l python2.4 shows version 2.4.3 but running python2.4 -V shows Python 2.4.4c0. Anyone know how I can get an actual 2.4.3 version? |
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| 02:38.29 | Carbon_Monoxide | anyone can help on samba? |
| 02:39.00 | abrotman | #samba ? |
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| 02:39.09 | jgould | Carbon_Monoxide: I've been having issues with samba as well |
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| 02:40.08 | litage | when a session is created, what session data is stored on the user's computer by their web browser? |
| 02:40.15 | chealer | zenwryly: you can probably get it by using an earlier python2.4 version |
| 02:40.38 | SubStack | litage: usually just a session id |
| 02:40.58 | abrotman | litage: sessionID |
| 02:41.03 | litage | nothing more? |
| 02:41.04 | SubStack | all the data is stored on the server |
| 02:41.09 | abrotman | litage: not supposed to |
| 02:41.13 | litage | great, thanks |
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| 02:43.20 | magyar | bleh |
| 02:43.40 | jcs | console only debian! |
| 02:44.24 | jcs | this is crazy.... |
| 02:44.26 | Roey | YES |
| 02:44.29 | Roey | w3m is soooo borked |
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| 02:44.33 | Roey | !nvidia |
| 02:44.33 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 02:44.36 | abrotman | jce: can you believe it .. it doesn't install things you don't need! |
| 02:45.01 | Roey | !dpkg ask-about nvidia one-liner |
| 02:45.04 | Roey | erg |
| 02:45.06 | jcs | you don't need X. :) |
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| 02:45.13 | Roey | jcs: heh |
| 02:45.20 | Roey | jcs: do you know why w3m would show garbage chars? |
| 02:45.32 | aLmost^Silent_Ch | what would be the command to list the properties of a hard disk? |
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| 02:45.48 | stew | Roey: becuaes your terminal doesn't support ansi line drawing characters |
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| 02:45.58 | jcs | I use links. Don't know about w3m. |
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| 02:46.31 | saske | whats the name of the zlib package? |
| 02:46.36 | Roey | stew: how can I fix it? |
| 02:46.37 | stew | zionRoot: http://changelogs.debian.net/python2.4 <- it looks like 2.4.3-1 is actually 2.4.3 and -2 and -3 are svn versions |
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| 02:46.46 | Roey | stew: my console is set to en_US.UTF-8 locale. |
| 02:46.47 | ALFAN | ada yang tau bahasa indonesia |
| 02:46.55 | Roey | jcs: lynx doesn't support frames like w3m (sorta) can |
| 02:46.55 | abrotman | saske: apt-cache search zlib |
| 02:47.01 | Roey | jcs: or do you mean 'links' |
| 02:47.08 | stew | Roey: what does "echo $TERM" say? |
| 02:47.36 | chealer | zenwryly: stew's message has more details |
| 02:47.59 | jcs | apt-get install links |
| 02:48.10 | Roey | stew: linux |
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| 02:48.20 | Roey | jcs: oh hello! links is a better browser! neat! thanks! |
| 02:48.28 | Roey | jcs: turns out it was already installed |
| 02:48.33 | Roey | jcs: thanks for showing it to me |
| 02:48.44 | abrotman | links2 ? |
| 02:48.52 | stew | Roey: you are running it in a vt? |
| 02:49.17 | zenwryly | stew: thanks! |
| 02:49.17 | abrotman | is w3m UTF capable ? |
| 02:49.31 | Roey | stew: straight-up vt, yes. |
| 02:49.35 | Roey | abrotman: dunno? |
| 02:49.44 | Roey | stew: seeing as to how I'm not in X at the moment :) |
| 02:50.23 | saske | when i'm compiling something, i get this error |
| 02:50.26 | saske | grfio.c:45:34: zlib.h: No such file or directory |
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| 02:50.36 | abrotman | saske: apt-cache search zlib dev |
| 02:50.58 | stew | Roey: i don't know then |
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| 02:51.10 | stew | Roey: you can hit 'o' for options and see if there is anything to set |
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| 02:51.13 | hexidigital_ | does anyone have vmWare installed in Debian running Windows? (and if so, does it work well?) |
| 02:51.40 | abrotman | ask #vmware ? |
| 02:52.12 | hexidigital_ | abrotman: i'm asking for opinions, not support |
| 02:52.25 | kspath | hexidigital_: This is a debian support channel. |
| 02:52.26 | abrotman | if only vmware were available in debian ... |
| 02:52.54 | shogunx | hexidigital_, no windows does not work well, in any manner of execution. this is a contributing reason to the growing use of debian linux. |
| 02:53.12 | hexidigital_ | i see my question was misunderstood... |
| 02:53.18 | abrotman | not really |
| 02:53.24 | shogunx | abrotman, there is xen, which is 10 times better though. |
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| 02:53.30 | hexidigital_ | abrotman: vmware is available in debian |
| 02:53.31 | abrotman | vmware isn't in debian .. you want vmware to run windows |
| 02:53.35 | abrotman | hexidigital_: no .. it's not |
| 02:53.51 | hexidigital_ | forget it |
| 02:53.58 | shogunx | we already have. |
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| 02:55.41 | Roey | stew: ok |
| 02:55.42 | Roey | btw |
| 02:55.47 | Roey | I did the nvidia-oneliner, and I got: |
| 02:55.59 | magyar | qemu anyone |
| 02:56.14 | magyar | slow but works :0 |
| 02:56.18 | Roey | nvida-glx has no installation candidate |
| 02:57.38 | saske | now i'm getting this error, even though i have the libmysqlclient dev files installed |
| 02:57.39 | saske | login.c:45:19: mysql.h: No such file or directory |
| 02:57.49 | jcs | is there any easy way to get a frame buffer console up and running so that i'm not stuck in 25x80? |
| 02:57.53 | abrotman | !tell saske about search |
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| 02:59.03 | saske | like, i said. i already have the dev files installed |
| 02:59.16 | abrotman | !find mysql.h sarge |
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| 02:59.31 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mysql.h' (6 of 26): (/usr/share/doc/roundup/doc/mysql.html) in web/roundup ;; (/usr/share/doc/gnade-doc/mysql.html) in doc/gnade-doc ;; (/usr/share/doc/cl-sql/html/mysql.html) in devel/cl-sql ;; (/usr/include/postfix/dict_mysql.h) in devel/postfix-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/cvm-dev/cvm-mysql.html) in libdevel/cvm-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/php3-doc/html/ref.mysql.html) in doc/php3-doc. |
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| 03:00.10 | Roey | stew, abrotman, onetinsoldier: OK, now I get: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting (when I run startx) |
| 03:00.27 | abrotman | !find mysql.h$ sarge |
| 03:00.34 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'mysql.h' (4 of 5): (/usr/include/postfix/dict_mysql.h) in devel/postfix-dev ;; (/usr/lib/pike/7.4.117/lib/include/mysql.h) in interpreters/pike7.4-mysql ;; (/usr/lib/pike/7.2.580/lib/include/mysql.h) in interpreters/pike7.2-mysql ;; (/usr/lib/pike/7.6.24/lib/7.4/include/mysql.h) in interpreters/pike7.6-mysql. |
| 03:00.39 | abrotman | bah ... |
| 03:00.42 | Roey | abrotman: ? |
| 03:00.45 | abrotman | saske: which libmysql-dev ? |
| 03:02.15 | onetinsoldier | Roey: i'm not sure how to solve the problem, but have a look at the file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 03:02.26 | onetinsoldier | here's what mine has.... |
| 03:02.36 | onetinsoldier | allowed_users=console |
| 03:02.42 | onetinsoldier | nice_value=0 |
| 03:02.43 | Roey | I have: allowd_users=console |
| 03:02.45 | Roey | nice_value=0 |
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| 03:03.00 | Roey | *allowed |
| 03:03.05 | onetinsoldier | hmmm |
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| 03:03.20 | gravity | Roey: Try running dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
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| 03:04.22 | Roey | gravity: System startup links for /etc/init.d/x11-common already exist. |
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| 03:04.27 | Roey | gravity: that's what it says |
| 03:04.35 | gravity | Roey: Yes... well now try startx |
| 03:05.16 | bnovc | my /bin/login has seemed to screw up, which package could i reinstall to fix it? |
| 03:05.26 | Roey | Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console, it says. |
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| 03:05.45 | Roey | gravity: that's what ti says |
| 03:05.49 | Roey | it. |
| 03:06.08 | onetinsoldier | bnovc: apparently... login |
| 03:06.16 | gravity | Hrm |
| 03:06.21 | Roey | heh |
| 03:06.27 | Noboru | I have a question please |
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| 03:06.53 | lastnode | !ask |
| 03:06.54 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:06.58 | bnovc | "You are about to do something potentially harmful" |
| 03:07.04 | bnovc | is there a better way to reinstall without deleting it first |
| 03:07.10 | stew | gravity: i just did a dist-upgrade in a chroot. i DID end up with the Xwrapper.config but it is chmod 400. dpkg-reconfigure x11-common doesn't affect the permissions, chmod 644 makes startx work |
| 03:07.10 | bnovc | i guess it doesnt matter if i can't use it anyway though |
| 03:07.12 | abrotman | man apt-get |
| 03:07.19 | onetinsoldier | bnovc: somehow.. i'm not surprised |
| 03:07.20 | stew | gravity: did you in fact end up with a missing Xwrapper.config? |
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| 03:07.29 | bnovc | onetinsoldier, at? |
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| 03:07.45 | onetinsoldier | the potenially harmful message |
| 03:07.51 | bnovc | ah, yes |
| 03:07.54 | bnovc | well i can't ssh, so |
| 03:08.00 | bnovc | probably can't login locally either |
| 03:08.11 | Roey | hrm. |
| 03:08.36 | saske | now i'm getting this error, even though i have the libmysqlclient dev files installed |
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| 03:08.38 | saske | login.c:45:19: mysql.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:08.51 | Roey | onetinsoldier, stew, gravity: (does my problem have to do with this xwrapper thing? I thought it was OK, since it was the same as gravity's?) |
| 03:08.51 | onetinsoldier | bnovc: have you tried.. apt-get --reinstall install login ...? |
| 03:08.51 | abrotman | saske: which libmysql-dev ? |
| 03:08.58 | abrotman | saske: when people ask you questions .. please answer |
| 03:09.07 | saske | libmysqlclient12-dev |
| 03:09.07 | gravity | stew: I haven't looked closely |
| 03:09.10 | saske | 14* |
| 03:09.11 | stew | Roey: what does "ls -l /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config" say? |
| 03:09.15 | gravity | stew: It wasn't what I was looking in to at the time |
| 03:09.19 | bnovc | onetinsoldier, its running now |
| 03:09.32 | abrotman | saske: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search mysql.h |
| 03:09.35 | onetinsoldier | bnovc: roger |
| 03:09.41 | aeorus | hi, i am looking for an X font for my rxvt terminal that looks exactly like the default linux-console font(when starting in text mode), any ideas? |
| 03:09.41 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: watch me go poof! |
| 03:09.43 | bnovc | onetinsoldier, that seems to have fixed it, thanks |
| 03:09.46 | scarynetworkguy | Yay! |
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| 03:09.57 | Roey | stew: heh, it's owned root.root mode 614 |
| 03:09.58 | stew | buhbye |
| 03:09.59 | onetinsoldier | bnovc: you're welcome... glad i could help :-) |
| 03:10.03 | Roey | stew: -rw---------- |
| 03:10.15 | Roey | stew: what bye? |
| 03:10.19 | Roey | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.20 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: nope . going to bed .. be nice to the kids! |
| 03:10.22 | Roey | abrotman: bye! |
| 03:10.31 | Roey | and thanks again! |
| 03:10.31 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Yay! |
| 03:10.32 | stew | Roey: chmod 644 /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
| 03:10.35 | Roey | stew: ok |
| 03:11.20 | Roey | stew: it still says it can't get a file descriptor referring to teh current console |
| 03:11.29 | Roey | scarynetworkguy: hehe |
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| 03:12.21 | saske | same error |
| 03:12.24 | saske | login.c:45:19: mysql.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:12.31 | genelisp | hi, I'm trying to setup proftpd but I'm having difficulty - I can't connect at all - here's my config and some output http://pastebin.com/734451 can anyone help? |
| 03:13.57 | Roey | yeay, marshmellows! :) |
| 03:13.57 | scarynetworkguy | Yay! |
| 03:14.00 | Roey | =) |
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| 03:14.23 | scarynetworkguy | Hehe. |
| 03:14.34 | Roey | stew: so right, it still won't startx |
| 03:14.40 | saske | isnt there some kind of package that has all the files you need to compile something succesfully? |
| 03:15.44 | Roey | kspath: whoever cmae up with that combination is a saint. |
| 03:16.30 | Roey | kspath: thought the jury's out on whether graham crackers or gingerbread crackers are better suited... |
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| 03:17.39 | Roey | stew, gravity, onetinsoldier: thanks and good night |
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| 03:18.41 | Roey | stew, gravity, onetinsoldier: I still cannot manage to startx (something about not being able to "get a file descriptor referring to the console"), but I suppose I'll tackle it in the morning. Thanks again |
| 03:18.52 | Roey | hey cappicrd |
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| 03:19.01 | cappicrd | hey |
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| 03:19.09 | Roey | cappicrd: long time no see! |
| 03:19.13 | Roey | anyway, good night! :) |
| 03:19.14 | cappicrd | yeah |
| 03:19.19 | bnovc | my 'w' does not show all the users that are active anymore |
| 03:19.23 | bnovc | it is only showing one of them |
| 03:19.29 | cappicrd | Roey, I got an modded xbox :D |
| 03:19.32 | Roey | oooh :) |
| 03:19.34 | Roey | neato |
| 03:19.40 | Roey | cappicrd: 360?? |
| 03:19.48 | cappicrd | I can run linux on it |
| 03:19.51 | cappicrd | nope, the original one |
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| 03:19.58 | Roey | HA! didn't know gnu/linux runs well on it... |
| 03:20.01 | Roey | can it do X? |
| 03:20.05 | cappicrd | but I got the duoX2 mod chip |
| 03:20.07 | cappicrd | yep |
| 03:20.10 | Roey | interesting |
| 03:20.19 | Roey | cappicard: well, good night! |
| 03:20.22 | cappicard | good night |
| 03:20.35 | Roey | cappicard: are you an X guru by any chance? |
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| 03:20.39 | bnovc | the only thing showing up on `w` is a perl script i have running in screen |
| 03:20.43 | bnovc | nothing else will show |
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| 03:21.25 | cappicard | a little bit |
| 03:21.25 | Roey | ok |
| 03:21.25 | Roey | I get this error: |
| 03:21.25 | ivanneto | I've just apt-get upgrated my system and my fonts got weird. Is there a way to see the last updated packages? |
| 03:21.25 | Roey | can't start X because it |
| 03:21.25 | cappicard | I helped Kevin Brosius debug the s3 virge driver years ago |
| 03:21.28 | Roey | "can't get the file descriptor referring to the console" |
| 03:21.37 | Roey | cappicard: ah ok |
| 03:21.57 | Roey | cappicard: didn't you do kde stuff too? |
| 03:21.59 | cappicard | hmm... does local users have access to /dev/console |
| 03:22.09 | cappicard | not very much |
| 03:22.21 | Roey | cappicard: /dev/console is -crw---------------------- root.root |
| 03:22.40 | Roey | oh now I get your nick, finally.. captain picard.. |
| 03:22.53 | cappicard | yep :) |
| 03:22.56 | Roey | cappicard: hehe! |
| 03:22.58 | cappicard | i've had this nick for over 10 years |
| 03:23.05 | Roey | cappicard: cool |
| 03:23.10 | Roey | cappicard: I certainly rememebr it foryears now |
| 03:23.17 | Roey | cappicard: what's your /dev/console look like |
| 03:23.22 | Roey | is it also 614?? |
| 03:23.27 | Roey | (mode 614) |
| 03:23.31 | Zetabyte | Ok, this is kinda a half-firefox half-debian question. I run Debian Sarge and thus firefox 1.0.7, and just today it started segfaulting. (the window shows up and it starts to load google and promptly segfaults). When i fire it up in GDB, the segfault appears to be coming from within a pthread library. Is this an issue anyone has heard of before? |
| 03:23.33 | cappicard | yeah. I believe so |
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| 03:23.48 | Roey | cappicard: so users can't read/write to it??? |
| 03:23.53 | Roey | cappicard: it's -crw------------ ? |
| 03:24.10 | cappicard | any users part of the video group? oh, can you run X as root? |
| 03:24.12 | Roey | cappicard: or is it -crw-rw-rw------ ? |
| 03:25.14 | Roey | hmm, can't seem to run it as root either. |
| 03:25.24 | Roey | cappicard: and I'm part of the video group, too. |
| 03:25.45 | cappicard | bizarre |
| 03:25.46 | Roey | (my normal user is part of the video group, that is) |
| 03:25.47 | Roey | yeah |
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| 03:25.58 | Roey | but I'll bother you bout this in thrmoning |
| 03:25.59 | Roey | the morning |
| 03:26.03 | Roey | good night for now :) |
| 03:26.06 | Roey | gotta go to sleep :( |
| 03:26.08 | Roey | ciao! |
| 03:26.48 | Zetabyte | Should I seek help from the firefox folk, or is the debian version of firefox "debianized" and thus not supported by them? |
| 03:28.22 | bnovc | http://rafb.net/paste/results/zpuCHW35.html <- thats what my 'who'/'w' shows up |
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| 03:36.17 | siimo | hi i run sid and sometimes the network wont start on bootup .. is this a known issue |
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| 03:36.38 | SBrown | hey look at this debian website http://tinyurl.com/l2h77 |
| 03:37.04 | Alias_ | Hi, I'm searching with apt-cache search and for some reason I can't seem to find a perl-dev package |
| 03:37.08 | Alias_ | Am I missing something here? |
| 03:37.45 | Alias_ | I'm on "testing" |
| 03:37.59 | Hydroxide | Alias_: are you trying to use perl or embed perl in another program? |
| 03:38.06 | chealer | siimo: an issue that vague is certainly known |
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| 03:38.25 | Alias_ | Hydroxide: I'm trying to develop a patch for Test::Builder to add a new feature |
| 03:38.30 | TTT_Travis | is there anyway, using ls or something to only show files modified within the past day? |
| 03:38.39 | Alias_ | Hydroxide: And the Makefile.PL for the brach I'm using needs perl.h |
| 03:39.00 | Alias_ | branch |
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| 03:39.39 | Alias_ | So I'd like to install what I'd assume by the standard naming scheme would be perl-dev |
| 03:39.42 | Hydroxide | Alias_: well, there is a libperl-dev package which might be what you want |
| 03:39.50 | Alias_ | hmm... maybe |
| 03:40.12 | Alias_ | (tries it) |
| 03:40.12 | Hydroxide | Alias_: most dev packages are lib<blah>-dev, since they usually correspond to a library rather than to a binary program |
| 03:40.27 | Alias_ | oh right, shite, Perl is a so at the core isn't it |
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| 03:40.42 | Hydroxide | Alias_: I'm sure there's some .so involved, though I don't know the details |
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| 03:40.57 | Alias_ | yeah there is, because I _know_ there's a dll on Win32 |
| 03:41.03 | Hydroxide | ok then |
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| 03:41.20 | Alias_ | Whether or not it is typically compiled in statically on various unix platforms, there's one in there |
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| 03:44.19 | woodland | hi i just removed gnome and put fluxbox, i want to know how do i remove entire debian except the most basic utilities |
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| 03:45.03 | cshaman | woodland, run synaptic and look through and uninstall packages which seem to be harmless. |
| 03:45.22 | cshaman | woodland, either that or reinstall debian with specific packages. |
| 03:46.57 | woodland | cshaman,i am confused with one aspect of aptitude. the amount of space used while installing some package is not the same as amount of space freed while purging |
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| 03:48.37 | cshaman | woodland, the program you choose as well as its dependencies are installed. when removing a package, its dependencies remain. |
| 03:49.40 | woodland | cshaman, i am not using apt-get. apt-get does what you say. but aptitude is supposed to take care of dependencies |
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| 03:52.35 | DA_ | ick |
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| 03:52.54 | DA_ | i think my unstable install is broken... explanation to follow |
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| 03:58.12 | DA_ | first off is troff segfaulting whenever it's run (can't use man, etc), secondly i just did an apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get reports: 657 upgraded, 89 newly installed, 8 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. -- After downloads i get prompted for some configurations and apt-get then proceeds to unpack replacement libasound2, in which a child dpkg process hangs and is unkillable (signa |
| 03:59.09 | genelisp | hi, I think I've broken a package in apt-get - while I was removing a package, it was taking so long I hit "Ctrl-C" to cancel it, now when I start apt-get, it seems to always jam on this package (proftpd) - is there anything I can do? |
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| 03:59.57 | Gimp_ | how do i make the system run a command on startup? |
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| 04:00.46 | wimp | how do I use my cd burner under debian? |
| 04:00.48 | wimp | cdrecord -scnabus is not recognizing anything |
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| 04:01.42 | ecarroll | dpkg: marillat .= 'No longer a repository google for debian-multimedia'; |
| 04:02.09 | ecarroll | dpkg: marillat =~ s/$/No longer a repository google for debian-multimedia/; |
| 04:02.09 | dpkg | ecarroll: that doesn't contain '$' |
| 04:02.12 | Gary | dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord |
| 04:02.27 | Thanatermesis | stew, well... with the files of /etc/ivman/IvmConfig*xml to the $HOME configurations, it works again |
| 04:02.31 | ecarroll | hrm I forgot how you ammend to dpkg -- anyway marillat is no longer a repos |
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| 04:04.19 | Thanatermesis | stew, but by another way, i can't posible to launch my autolaunchers more, i have used before this line on Actions: http://pastebin.ca/58558 |
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| 04:05.31 | varsendagger | hey i have some video questions where should i go? |
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| 04:05.47 | xerophyte | why does the people use ldap then rational database ??? |
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| 04:06.45 | stefani | relational? |
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| 04:07.08 | Vasistha | ecarroll: maybe you want /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 04:08.20 | Vasistha | wimp: have you tried cdparanoia -- that may be read only, I'm not sure |
| 04:08.30 | wimp | cdrecord-scanbus doesnt' show anything |
| 04:08.35 | wimp | \how can other progs which use cdrecord work? |
| 04:08.44 | DA_ | ecarroll, dpkg: No, marillat is No longer a repository, google for debian-multimedia. |
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| 04:10.07 | ecarroll | nice. |
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| 04:10.12 | ecarroll | dpkg: marillat |
| 04:10.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add. If you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key>. For specific sources.list lines, ask me about <marillat.etch> <marillat.sid> <marillat.sarge> |
| 04:10.18 | ecarroll | didn't take it |
| 04:10.25 | ecarroll | dpkg: No, marillat is No longer a repository, google for debian-multimedia. |
| 04:10.26 | dpkg | okay, ecarroll |
| 04:10.43 | DA_ | ecarroll: : nope, didnt see me since i addressed both of you - or its locked |
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| 04:10.52 | DA_ | ahh |
| 04:10.55 | DA_ | there you go |
| 04:11.03 | ecarroll | cool |
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| 04:11.40 | siimo | can anyone tell me what pkg to install for x window system libraries |
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| 04:12.11 | ecarroll | dpkg: No, marillat is No longer a repository, google for <debian-multimedia>. See the link at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 for updated information regarding <win32codecs>, works for 64bit too. |
| 04:12.11 | dpkg | okay, ecarroll |
| 04:12.25 | ecarroll | search for xlibs |
| 04:12.38 | ecarroll | or get x-window-system and let the deps fill it |
| 04:12.40 | Thanatermesis | stew, i supose to the equivalent of "ivm.mountable" is actually "hal.volume.is_mounted", i use it for now |
| 04:13.00 | Vasistha | actually http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ is the place to go, google doesn't bring up the result on top like it should |
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| 04:15.08 | katawan | hola |
| 04:15.42 | varsendagger | hey i got an error and i think it is easy to fix but here it is ->>> over in flood |
| 04:15.46 | `ns` | was someone looking for marillat ? you might try ftp://ftp.nerim.net |
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| 04:16.11 | katawan | helo .... Iam José |
| 04:16.12 | Stevie | 250 Stevie |
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| 04:17.21 | varsendagger | anyone |
| 04:17.23 | coolzone | Hi, what is that program running in the back showing CPU usage? http://www.freesbie.org/img/freesbie11-2.jpg, on the top right corner. The transperent one. |
| 04:17.24 | Vasistha | `ns`: no, marillat's site has moved to debian-multimedia.org |
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| 04:17.36 | Vasistha | coolzone: maybe you want top |
| 04:17.40 | coolzone | no |
| 04:17.54 | Vasistha | coolzone: okay, hehheh I'll look at the image |
| 04:18.02 | `ns` | ahhhh. very recent ... I had updates from nerim a few weeks back and thought it was a marillat mirror |
| 04:18.12 | DA_ | coolzone: perhaps, gkrellm? |
| 04:18.21 | coolzone | no, thats not it :-) |
| 04:18.29 | amphi | coolzone: torsmo? |
| 04:18.37 | katawan | ./chile |
| 04:19.05 | `ns` | been a while since I changed any sources |
| 04:19.13 | b-_-d | no one ever speaks in the debain amd64 channel no way to know what is going on |
| 04:19.26 | coolzone | amphi, thanks!!! |
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| 04:21.32 | unix_infidel | anyone know if its possible to get a blinking cursor in aterm |
| 04:21.33 | unix_infidel | ? |
| 04:22.02 | siimo | i have x-window-system installed |
| 04:22.12 | siimo | but still missing X Window system libraries and header files |
| 04:22.18 | unix_infidel | or just the framebuffer ATLEAST! |
| 04:22.38 | Vasistha | siimo: and you need those for compiling, right? You'll need some *-dev files from the debian repo's |
| 04:22.47 | Vasistha | siimo: shall I go look them up? |
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| 04:23.09 | b-_-d | unix_infidel things are broken too :( |
| 04:23.27 | unix_infidel | b-_-d: ? |
| 04:23.28 | unix_infidel | wtf? |
| 04:23.28 | gravity | siimo: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 04:23.34 | siimo | Vasistha: that would be cool |
| 04:23.37 | siimo | gravity: sid |
| 04:23.49 | gravity | siimo: Install xorg-dev |
| 04:23.50 | b-_-d | example libdvdcss |
| 04:23.51 | katawan | irc.cl |
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| 04:23.52 | siimo | but going to reinstall etch soon as sid's network randomly doesnt restart |
| 04:24.01 | b-_-d | broken :( |
| 04:24.14 | siimo | gravity: thanks... |
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| 04:24.50 | gravity | No problem |
| 04:25.03 | JunK-Y | i tried to add a keyboard and since then, i can go to my gnome, any help to resolve that issue? |
| 04:25.10 | JunK-Y | (im using etch) |
| 04:25.26 | Vasistha | siimo: actually, just go here and do a page find for -dev http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/ |
| 04:26.06 | siimo | Vasistha: i think its xorg-dev like gravity said it worked |
| 04:26.09 | gravity | Well, I put that package in sid just for people like siimo |
| 04:26.24 | b-_-d | JunK-Y how well is it working? |
| 04:26.34 | gravity | I'm glad at least someone will use it |
| 04:26.46 | b-_-d | i just got nvidia working |
| 04:26.51 | gravity | Since I pretty much had to have my arm twisted to add it |
| 04:27.02 | siimo | im compiling xfce |
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| 04:27.18 | b-_-d | JunK-Y what arch? |
| 04:27.21 | JunK-Y | i see nautilus loading, then boom, everything goes bye bye |
| 04:27.23 | JunK-Y | i386 |
| 04:27.45 | b-_-d | i386 = less issues |
| 04:28.37 | JunK-Y | i know, my other machine is an amd64 and i wont try to fix all issues :) |
| 04:28.46 | b-_-d | compiling xfce not offered in a .deb? |
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| 04:29.57 | JunK-Y | b-_-d: i will come back tomorrow to fix this issue. |
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| 04:30.08 | dsR|cplx[NG] | Signal 17 (CHLD) caught by ps (procps version 3.2.1). |
| 04:30.11 | dsR|cplx[NG] | can someone plz assist |
| 04:30.49 | genelisp | hi, I'm having trouble with vsftpd, I can't connect as a user (I don't want anon ftp), I think it might be related to pam - can anyone help? here's my config: http://pastebin.com/734493 |
| 04:31.02 | b-_-d | i had to pull stuff of my gentoo box to get some things going :( |
| 04:31.04 | Gary | b-_-d, are you useing sid or sarge? |
| 04:31.21 | b-_-d | unstable amd64 |
| 04:31.42 | b-_-d | very good over all |
| 04:31.43 | dsR|cplx[NG] | Why is it saying "eth0: Promiscous mode enabled." |
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| 04:32.49 | Bogaurd | hmm, can anyone point me to a good tutorial for migrating my dovecot setup from mbox format to maildir format? |
| 04:33.23 | Gary | b-_-d, how did you get x-window-system-core work? |
| 04:33.53 | b-_-d | i used dselect |
| 04:34.38 | b-_-d | nvidia driver from the nvidia home page |
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| 04:35.21 | Gary | x-window could not find my mouse |
| 04:35.21 | b-_-d | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.38 | b-_-d | i setup x-window by hand |
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| 04:36.28 | Gary | what is the best why to set it up ? |
| 04:36.39 | Gary | in sid |
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| 04:37.37 | Ekushey | hi, i'm having problem downloading the net-install iso. would downloading 1st 1 or 2 cd iso work? |
| 04:38.31 | Gary | jest the 1st will work |
| 04:38.46 | Gary | for net install |
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| 04:39.11 | chealer | Ekushey: yes, although that should be harder than downloading the netinst |
| 04:39.24 | Vasistha | DA_: how does one add an entry to dpkg so it says "Or, ..." rather than entirely replacing contents? |
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| 04:39.58 | Ekushey | Gary: so if i download the 1st cd iso, i can use it for net-intalling? is there an option for that? |
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| 04:40.15 | Ekushey | chealer: how hard? |
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| 04:40.39 | powder | you can't net install with a non net install cd |
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| 04:40.55 | chealer | Ekushey: 650MB / 100 MB times more hard... |
| 04:41.01 | neogreen | What is ERROR 1045 |
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| 04:41.34 | neogreen | I was trying to configure the password for mysql |
| 04:41.47 | neogreen | I used command: sudo mysql -u root |
| 04:42.04 | neogreen | Then I get the message about ERROR 1045 |
| 04:42.25 | chealer | neogreen: ask Google, or #mysql |
| 04:42.27 | Ekushey | so in order to install debian, my only option is to download either the net-install ISO or the 14 cd ISOs? |
| 04:42.36 | neogreen | Okay |
| 04:43.16 | nse | do anybody know the name of that program that display the disk usage in a graphical way, with some squares in the screen green and red. i've tried xdiskusage and kdirstat, but they are not what i want... there is another program. does anybody knows? |
| 04:44.21 | Gary | Ekushey, if you do not no how to do a net install you need to google |
| 04:44.29 | powder | Ekushey, http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/ |
| 04:44.39 | powder | read this please |
| 04:44.43 | Ekushey | ok |
| 04:44.51 | neogreen | Got it thanks chealer |
| 04:44.53 | colk | net installs rule:P |
| 04:45.08 | b-_-d | net install is nice |
| 04:45.24 | neogreen | Cant you net install on a computer that has no OS |
| 04:45.35 | b-_-d | core system could use some mods |
| 04:45.46 | Gary | yes you can :) |
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| 04:46.10 | neogreen | How?????? |
| 04:46.53 | chealer | Ekushey: no, you can download the netinst, the business card or any number of full CDs you want |
| 04:47.12 | Gary | it's called cd |
| 04:47.27 | b-_-d | non are set up for a diskless install |
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| 04:47.45 | b-_-d | or a mostly remote |
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| 04:48.51 | new2nix | hey, anyone know how I could make the Gift daemon startup when any user does? |
| 04:49.36 | Ekushey | chealer: ok. but out of 14 cd ISOs, which ones would i need to install just the minimal software? isn't is possible to install debian using first 1/2/3 CDs and then download the programs that i would later? |
| 04:49.56 | chealer | Ekushey: the first |
| 04:50.25 | Ekushey | chealer: ok. then i'll download only the 1st cd. |
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| 04:56.24 | dsR|cplx[NG] | Can someone please asist: Signal 17 (CHLD) caught by ps (procps version 3.2.1). |
| 04:56.28 | dsR|cplx[NG] | samba not starting. |
| 04:58.43 | nse | the program i am searching is something really close to this http://www.andyhsoftware.co.uk/space/gfx/screens/block_mode_small_border.png, does anybody knows? |
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| 05:02.47 | dsR|cplx[NG] | [12:56] <dsR|cplx[NG]> Can someone please asist: Signal 17 (CHLD) caught by ps (procps version 3.2.1). |
| 05:02.49 | dsR|cplx[NG] | [12:56] <dsR|cplx[NG]> samba not starting. |
| 05:02.51 | dsR|cplx[NG] | [12:57] <dsR|cplx[NG]> I typed /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 05:02.53 | dsR|cplx[NG] | [12:57] <dsR|cplx[NG]> then /etc/init.d/samba restart |
| 05:02.55 | dsR|cplx[NG] | [12:57] <dsR|cplx[NG]> and now samba is working |
| 05:02.57 | dsR|cplx[NG] | [12:57] <dsR|cplx[NG]> how can I make sure its not gonna happen again? |
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| 05:04.09 | Thanatermesis | stew, mmmh, i read in the TODO to actually has a memleak ? |
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| 05:05.26 | dsR|cplx[NG] | sorry |
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| 05:07.17 | litage | what's the difference between the "auth" and "authpriv" syslog facilities? |
| 05:08.21 | dsR|cplx[NG] | anyone here? |
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| 05:08.41 | dondelelcaro | dsR|cplx[NG]: no. |
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| 05:09.00 | siimo | networking never seems to work anymore :/ |
| 05:09.12 | siimo | it says starting during bootup but doesnt work |
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| 05:14.39 | Vasistha | heh I updated dpkg too many times and now he's ignoring me! Anybody want to help me fix a couple dpkg bot entries? |
| 05:14.44 | b-_-d | network dos could be cleaner to |
| 05:14.49 | b-_-d | docs* |
| 05:15.31 | chealer | Vasistha: what's the problem? |
| 05:16.11 | Vasistha | chealer: someone updated dpkg with some vague instructions, so I sat down for 20 minutes and made really nice instructions for the marillat reference |
| 05:16.26 | chealer | !marillat |
| 05:16.26 | dpkg | from memory, marillat is now at a new location -- http://debian-multimedia.org/ -- visit the link for further instructions, see the bottom of the page. You'll want to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change those old references to (ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat) to point to the new location. Christian Marillat maintains an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons. |
| 05:16.52 | Vasistha | chealer: but they were too long, and it took me a few tries with dpkg to figure that out. Now he's ignoring my further updates, and I have a really good string for him! |
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| 05:17.14 | Vasistha | dpkg: no, marillat has MOVED to http://debian-multimedia.org/ --visit the link! Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change (ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat) to the new location. Christian Marillat maintains an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For apt and sources.list instructions ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.sarge> <marillat.etch> and/or <marillat.sid>. Also ask me about |
| 05:17.15 | chealer | Vasistha: did you try just changing your nick? |
| 05:17.22 | Vasistha | chealer: no ;) |
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| 05:17.33 | david3 | no, marillat has MOVED to http://debian-multimedia.org/ --visit the link! Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change (ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat) to the new location. Christian Marillat maintains an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For apt and sources.list instructions ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.sarge> <marillat.etch> and/or <marillat.sid>. Also ask me about <mplayer |
| 05:17.37 | david3 | oops |
| 05:17.38 | Aconitic | hey, i just did a net install and was having some problems |
| 05:17.41 | david3 | dpkg: no, marillat has MOVED to http://debian-multimedia.org/ --visit the link! Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change (ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat) to the new location. Christian Marillat maintains an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For apt and sources.list instructions ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.sarge> <marillat.etch> and/or <marillat.sid>. Also ask me about <m |
| 05:17.54 | Aconitic | could anyone help me? |
| 05:18.07 | david3 | !ask |
| 05:18.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 05:18.20 | david3 | chealer: hmmm, maybe he's ignoring everyone for the time being |
| 05:18.28 | chealer | david3: that's too long even for IRC. your messages is truncated at "Also ask me about <mplaye" |
| 05:18.41 | new2nix | Oh thanks for the new marillat apt source btw, I was looking for that earlier. |
| 05:19.05 | Aconitic | I did a net install and it worked fine, then i went to download x11 and install xfce 4 |
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| 05:19.19 | Aconitic | i did apt-get install x-server-core xfce4 |
| 05:19.40 | Aconitic | and waited for to download but after when i rebooted i get a "Interrupt handler - not syncing error |
| 05:19.45 | Aconitic | it wont even load to the login |
| 05:20.01 | Aconitic | "unable to handle kernel null pointer derference at virtual address |
| 05:20.03 | Aconitic | " |
| 05:20.19 | Aconitic | any ideas? |
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| 05:20.40 | Vasistha | chealer: hmm, I thought the max chars was about 500. |
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| 05:21.16 | tejing | I'm runnning debian unstable, and I know things have been a little wacky lately with the X.org packages, but I was wondering if anyone knew why I might no longer have dri enabled (I'm using the nvidia driver compiled from nvidiaq-kernel-source) I'll post a pstebin of my xorg.conf in case it helps |
| 05:22.14 | Eclipser | tejing, /var/log/Xorg.log probably helps more... |
| 05:22.19 | chealer | Aconitic: looks like a kernel bug...if nobody else can help you, try Google or a different Linux version |
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| 05:22.57 | Aconitic | ive used the same install before and it worked fine |
| 05:23.07 | chealer | tejing: did you check the Debian NvidiaGraphicsDrivers wiki page? |
| 05:23.11 | Eclipser | corrupted memory can handle it too |
| 05:23.15 | Eclipser | err |
| 05:23.16 | Eclipser | cause |
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| 05:23.26 | chealer | Aconitic: on the same machine? |
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| 05:23.32 | Aconitic | yes |
| 05:23.46 | tejing | chealer: nope, didn't know about it |
| 05:24.21 | chealer | Aconitic: hum, OK, I guess I can't help you anyway |
| 05:24.23 | Aconitic | When it happens the caps lock and scroll lock on my keyboard lights flash, if that has anything to do with it |
| 05:24.29 | Vasistha | !marillat |
| 05:24.29 | dpkg | well, marillat is MOVED to http://debian-multimedia.org/ --visit the link! Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change (ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat) to the new location. C. Marillat maintains an unofficial repository of packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons. For apt and sources.list instructions ask me about <marillat key> <marillat.sarge> <marillat.etch> and/or <marillat.sid>. Also ask me about <mplayer> and <w32codecs> |
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| 05:24.37 | Vasistha | ah! okay! |
| 05:26.27 | Aconitic | "oops: 000 cpuL 0 eip 0010 not tainted eflags 00010847 preocess swapper pid 0 |
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| 05:26.31 | Aconitic | says stuff like that |
| 05:26.38 | Aconitic | then call trace and stack |
| 05:26.42 | Aconitic | with things listed behind |
| 05:26.55 | Aconitic | looks like binary and hex |
| 05:27.33 | chealer | Vasistha: why does the factoid refer to mplayer and w32codecs? |
| 05:28.13 | Vasistha | chealer: those are almost definitely the most popular packages in the repo -- and that's what it used to say. I'm just trying to preserve things other people put in there |
| 05:28.55 | Aconitic | any one have an idea how to solve it? |
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| 05:33.15 | Aconitic | I just tried to do a clean install from the cd, i get the same error though. Could it be the cd itself? |
| 05:33.28 | Aconitic | or maybe a hardware problem? |
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| 05:34.19 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 05:34.19 | dpkg | [popcon] the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 05:34.29 | jeffrin | gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.7... Package x11 was not found |
| 05:34.34 | chealer | Aconitic: really talking without a clue, but as Eclipser said it, maybe it would be a good time for a memtest |
| 05:34.57 | chealer | Vasistha: OK, I don't think that's needed |
| 05:35.06 | chealer | !marillat.sarge |
| 05:35.06 | dpkg | methinks marillat.sarge is type echo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; as root to add the marillat repository if you are using debian/3.1 |
| 05:35.26 | Vasistha | chealer: I'm working on fixing those... they still refer to the old location |
| 05:36.03 | Vasistha | chealer: well, okay, you don't think they're needed. Someone else did -- probably because the question was asked a lot -- so someone else put it in. I'm just trying to preserve what was there, while updating. You're free to change it if you don't like it. |
| 05:36.06 | Aconitic | how would i go about running memtest without an os |
| 05:36.13 | jbroome711 | live cd |
| 05:36.47 | chealer | dpkg: no, marillat.sarge is <reply>run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) to add the marillat repository |
| 05:36.47 | dpkg | okay, chealer |
| 05:37.12 | chealer | Vasistha: yeah. I let you .etch :-P |
| 05:37.15 | sid | marillat.etch and marillat.sid now |
| 05:37.39 | jeffrin | while trying to compile fire fox |
| 05:37.40 | sid | dpkg: no, marillat.etch is <reply>run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) to add the marillat repository |
| 05:37.40 | dpkg | okay, sid |
| 05:37.50 | Aconitic | memtest.org Download - Pre-Compiled Bootable ISO (.zip) |
| 05:37.50 | jeffrin | gtk+-2.0 >= 1.3.7... Package x11 was not found |
| 05:37.52 | sid | dpkg: no, marillat.sid is <reply>run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) to add the marillat repository |
| 05:37.53 | dpkg | sid: okay |
| 05:37.54 | Aconitic | that right? |
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| 05:38.47 | chealer | Aconitic: looks ok. you can also install from Debian, if it works :) |
| 05:39.18 | Aconitic | thats the probelm, cant even get to root login |
| 05:39.50 | Vasistha | marillat.sid |
| 05:40.16 | sid | !marillat.sid |
| 05:40.16 | dpkg | it has been said that marillat.sid is marillat's repository for sid. To add the repository, su root, cd /etc/apt and type: echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main" >>sources.list -OR- echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main" >>sources.list ..... then apt-get update |
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| 05:42.58 | crazy_penguin | good morning! // jo reggelt! // buna dimineata! |
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| 05:45.57 | DimmuR | good morning crazy_penguin |
| 05:46.17 | fm | hi, after I ran apt-get dist-upgrade my thinkpad R50e laptop's trackpointer is not working, what could be the reason ? |
| 05:46.25 | fm | using sid |
| 05:47.09 | Aconitic | ok wait |
| 05:47.15 | Aconitic | is there a bootable floopy memtest? |
| 05:47.31 | chealer | dpkg: no, marillat is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp.nerim.net) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 05:47.31 | dpkg | okay, chealer |
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| 05:47.55 | lavi | hi all GM or GE:) |
| 05:48.00 | lavi | i search web more and more but hasnt result. the problem met on compling glib. after ./autogen.sh, it prints 'gtk-doc.make: 7: GTK_DOC_USE_LIBTOOL doesnt appear in AM_CONDITIONAL '. what can i do.? |
| 05:48.49 | peterS | lavi: why are you building your own glib? I ask because for most people there is not much point |
| 05:48.54 | chealer | dpkg: no, marillat.etch is <reply>first, ask me about <marillat key>. then, run # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; (as root) to add the marillat repository |
| 05:48.54 | dpkg | okay, chealer |
| 05:49.33 | peterS | lavi: I'm guessing the problem is related to the version of automake you have installed. I haven't checked which versions glib supports, but there are quite a number of versions available in debian. |
| 05:49.52 | chealer | Aconitic: it seems so. look for floppy in that page |
| 05:50.19 | lavi | peterS: yeah, i 've installed automake1.7 before compiling glibc |
| 05:50.20 | peterS | lavi: automake1.9 is the newest but your version of glib may need automake1.7 or automake1.4 or something |
| 05:50.25 | Aconitic | i see floppy for dos |
| 05:50.33 | Aconitic | will that boot? |
| 05:51.09 | peterS | Aconitic: if it's "for dos", probably not, unless you have a DOS boot disk. there should be an independent bootable floppy of it somewhere |
| 05:51.12 | lavi | peterS: btw. or other way can instead compiling own glib? |
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| 05:51.49 | Aconitic | ah |
| 05:51.50 | Aconitic | wait |
| 05:51.51 | peterS | lavi: most people just install the debian packages of glib: 'libglib2.0-0', 'libglib2.0-dev', 'libglib2.0-doc' |
| 05:51.56 | Aconitic | bootable binary |
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| 05:52.27 | lavi | peterS: okay, i'll try. thx |
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| 05:53.08 | peterS | lavi: if you intend to compile other stuff that _uses_ glib, you want libglib2.0-dev. -dev is a common convention for library packages you need in order to compile stuff that uses a library |
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| 05:54.15 | Aconitic | damn |
| 05:54.23 | Aconitic | i get a non-system disk or disk error |
| 05:54.53 | peterS | Aconitic: so it's not an i386 bootable disk ... or your floppy drive is busted |
| 05:54.59 | lavi | peterS: for my original meaning, i wanna compile gtk, but i got the same error. |
| 05:55.20 | peterS | lavi: same question from me, then. _why_ do you want to compile gtk? most people just use debian packages of it |
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| 05:56.31 | lavi | peterS: i run some of app, it depened on gtk+, for debuging, i wanna see what had happened in source code. |
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| 05:57.25 | peterS | lavi: so you want to debug gtk+ itself? or just debug the app? |
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| 05:57.50 | lavi | peterS: only wanna debugg app. |
| 05:58.05 | peterS | lavi: if you just want to debug the app, not GTK, you can just compile the app using debian's libgtk2.0-dev. then you can trace function calls but not _inside_ the gtk calls |
| 05:58.06 | Aconitic | # Download - Pre-Compiled Bootable Binary (.zip) - 40.8 KB |
| 05:58.17 | Aconitic | i would think that would be bootable huh |
| 05:58.42 | peterS | Aconitic: how are you putting it on a floppy? |
| 05:58.43 | lavi | peterS: oh.. i got it. thx a lot:) |
| 05:58.55 | Aconitic | unzzipping then copy paste |
| 05:59.18 | peterS | Aconitic: it's probably a filesystem image. so you want to copy it to the raw floppy device, not just put it on the floppy's regular filesystem |
| 05:59.21 | Aconitic | do i havev to format the disk specially? |
| 05:59.24 | peterS | Aconitic: simple way: cp imagename /dev/fd0 |
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| 05:59.48 | peterS | note, that overwrites your entire floppy filesystem, so you lose whatever files were on that floppy before |
| 05:59.52 | pingu | peterS, that works? |
| 05:59.55 | Aconitic | the comp im using has 98 |
| 06:00.00 | Aconitic | this comp doesnt have a floppy |
| 06:00.01 | pingu | I've always used cat image > /dev/fd0 |
| 06:00.05 | Aconitic | and my debian box is dead |
| 06:00.13 | Aconitic | well the one im trying to fix |
| 06:00.14 | peterS | pingu: most people say dd if=image of=/dev/fd0. all three do pretty much exactly the same thing |
| 06:00.34 | pingu | I would have though cp would do something unexpected. |
| 06:00.53 | peterS | Aconitic: well hmmm. you want http://http.us.debian.org/debian/tools/rwwrtwin.zip |
| 06:01.03 | peterS | pingu: mv would, but cp works fine |
| 06:01.30 | peterS | pingu: the secret is that cp doesn't remove the destination file first, it just opens it for writing. which is what cat > does as well. |
| 06:02.11 | Aconitic | wait so how would i remove the file system in 98? |
| 06:02.12 | peterS | Aconitic: rwwrtwin.zip is a tool for writing a raw disk image to a floppy |
| 06:02.19 | Aconitic | Its been a long time since ive messed with floppys |
| 06:02.21 | peterS | Aconitic: it'll do just what you want |
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| 06:02.23 | Aconitic | oh ok |
| 06:02.38 | peterS | and yes, it works in windows 98 |
| 06:02.54 | peterS | (everything in that directory does, I believe) |
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| 06:03.44 | fm | hi, after I ran apt-get dist-upgrade my thinkpad R50e laptop's trackpointer is not working, what could be the reason ? (using sid) |
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| 06:04.50 | stew | fm: do you have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed? |
| 06:04.56 | stew | peterS: how was your debconf? |
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| 06:05.21 | stew | fm: oh wait, you are talking about the pad or the eraserhead? |
| 06:05.45 | peterS | stew: great. I'm not sure how much I learned in the conference proceedings per se, but talking one-on-one with people was both very gratifying and somewhat informative |
| 06:05.58 | stew | peterS: this was your first conference? |
| 06:06.11 | peterS | stew: yep. I'd never met anyone there before |
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| 06:06.34 | stew | cool. hopefully i'll make the next. this spring is just too busy travelwise already |
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| 06:06.48 | Growly | haro |
| 06:06.53 | peterS | stew: next one is looking like Edinburgh, though I understand that's not final |
| 06:06.56 | brad` | is mod_perl 1.99 version 1 or 2? its running in apache2... |
| 06:06.57 | Growly | anyone here run verlihub? |
| 06:07.24 | fm | stew, its trackpoint |
| 06:07.26 | stew | peterS: oh neat, i've always wanted to go there anyway |
| 06:07.36 | fm | stew, and gpm too is not working |
| 06:07.51 | Aconitic | awesome man thanks that worked |
| 06:07.53 | stew | fm: make sure you have xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed and you ahve the mousedev and psmouse kernel modules loaded |
| 06:08.01 | Aconitic | now i have mem test, but im not sure what to do with it |
| 06:08.02 | fm | stew, apparently I don't see any errors reagarding this in dmesg or xorg.log |
| 06:08.03 | peterS | stew: other possibilities are Sarajevo.ba and Brixen.it. I'm kind of rooting for sarajevo |
| 06:08.09 | Aconitic | one of my ram sticks might be bad? |
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| 06:08.53 | fm | stew, yes, its installed |
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| 06:09.32 | fm | stew, it was working (tm) only after a dist-upgrade it stopped working |
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| 06:10.12 | fm | as I mentioned earlier gpm too is not able to show a mouse pointer |
| 06:10.25 | fm | gpm starts without any error |
| 06:10.41 | fm | uisng /dev/input/mice |
| 06:10.46 | fm | using* |
| 06:10.50 | peterS | fm: so it's a kernel thing. did your upgrade include a kernel upgrade? |
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| 06:11.04 | fm | yes |
| 06:11.22 | fm | wel, I think so, I haven't created config file to behold any package |
| 06:11.22 | stew | fm: what about mousedev and psmouse? |
| 06:11.30 | peterS | fm: ok so, make sure the 'psmouse' module is loaded |
| 06:11.55 | peterS | fm: or if you've installed an external synaptics kernel module, make sure that's available for your new kernel |
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| 06:12.33 | fm | peterS, stew, psmouse is not loaded, mousedev is loaded |
| 06:12.45 | peterS | fm: so 'modprobe psmouse' and see if your troubles disappear |
| 06:12.55 | peterS | fm: this should not require a restart of X or gpm or anything |
| 06:13.19 | fm | peterS, wow, that worked :) |
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| 06:13.33 | fm | thanks peterS and stew |
| 06:13.36 | peterS | fm: cool, so, to make sure this happens next time you boot, you may as well just add 'psmouse' to /etc/modules or /etc/modules-2.6 |
| 06:13.45 | peterS | fm: (modules-2.6 if it exists, otherwise modules) |
| 06:13.56 | fm | peterS, ok |
| 06:15.14 | Aconitic | theres so many people here and only like 5 active |
| 06:15.44 | peterS | Aconitic: time of day. lots of people are asleep or otherwise away. many people leave their irc clients connected 24 hours a day |
| 06:15.44 | new2nix | six ;) I was eating |
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| 06:16.02 | new2nix | (and learning) |
| 06:16.10 | Aconitic | hah, reminds me of B.net and bots |
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| 06:16.33 | peterS | well, we do have a few bots, but I can only think of about 4 |
| 06:16.38 | plasmoduck | hi |
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| 06:16.45 | plasmoduck | whats a good blog to use with a web config |
| 06:16.59 | plasmoduck | web interface for configuration |
| 06:17.13 | rohan | hmm.. how about removing the ubuntu thingie from /topic ? gives un necessary fame :P |
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| 06:18.05 | new2nix | ubuntu is horrible. I can't believe that thing is catching on like the plague |
| 06:18.25 | plasmoduck | haha, yeah |
| 06:18.30 | rohan | new2nix: very sad the so many people just dont agree with you :P |
| 06:18.46 | rohan | and really, you have no reason to call it horrible .. no one is forcing you to use anything |
| 06:18.49 | plasmoduck | I must admit, it is better then Red Hat and it's free! |
| 06:19.05 | Teddy | hi all, i just done a clean install and installed kde-i18n and x-windows-system-core ; i tried startx but it says fatal error no screen found |
| 06:19.09 | Teddy | can anyone help me out ? |
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| 06:19.26 | new2nix | yeah, well the majority of people are dumbasses. (why DO they call it common sense???) |
| 06:19.28 | rohan | Teddy: you have configured xorg properly ?> |
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| 06:19.37 | plasmoduck | Teddy: make sure you configured your video card and mouse correctly |
| 06:19.40 | rohan | Teddy: btw, did you apt-get install xserver-xorg ? |
| 06:19.43 | Hatter | anyone here familiar with mdadm (raid 1) on debian sarge ? each time i reboot one of the partitions is degraded |
| 06:20.04 | Teddy | hmm nope i didnt i ran the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 06:20.10 | rohan | new2nix: your nick says everything .. you are not fit to argue on the topic you are currently pursuing |
| 06:20.13 | sep | Hatter, boot, wait until it's reconstructed. tehn recreate your initrd |
| 06:20.17 | Teddy | i dont remmeber install xserver-xorg last time |
| 06:20.46 | rohan | Teddy: err.. what distribution are you on ? sarge, etch, or sid ? |
| 06:20.53 | Teddy | rohan: sarge |
| 06:20.58 | rohan | oh, my bad :-/ |
| 06:21.14 | iKernel | Fetched 8256kB in 53s (153kB/s) |
| 06:21.16 | iKernel | :D |
| 06:21.30 | Hatter | sep: I have done this a couple of times now, the array is reconstructed, then on reboot it shows one partition missing, the other 2 show up fine |
| 06:21.42 | new2nix | actually new is a pretty relative term. I since Rehat 6 and slackware 7 off and on, just never serious until this year. |
| 06:21.50 | Hatter | sep: it doesn't reconstruct on boot, i have to do it manually |
| 06:21.57 | Teddy | rohan: i got the netinstall image last night and install from there, didnt change the apt source so i guess it's sarge |
| 06:22.01 | sep | Hatter, and you recreated your initrd /after/ it's reconstructed ? |
| 06:22.09 | rohan | new2nix: oh, then you must know better than to call a distro 'horrible' |
| 06:22.24 | sep | Hatter, ohh so you actualy lack a disk ? |
| 06:22.30 | rohan | Teddy: depends .. there are netinstall images of etch available |
| 06:22.34 | Hatter | sep: yes. but I will do it again now. |
| 06:22.41 | rohan | Teddy: tho', do you want to upgrade to sid/etch ? |
| 06:22.48 | stew | Teddy: what driver are you using? |
| 06:23.02 | Teddy | i sintalled the ati drivers |
| 06:23.03 | new2nix | no, I call it how I see it. |
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| 06:23.18 | stew | Teddy: do you need 3d accelleration? |
| 06:23.22 | Teddy | stew: with what they give on their site, install went okay and changed things in xserver config |
| 06:23.44 | rohan | new2nix: really then, you must know how many people are really interested in your opinion .. and your opinion doesnt change anything |
| 06:23.56 | new2nix | almost the worst stock hardware support of the 15 major distros on distrowatch ... |
| 06:24.13 | Teddy | stew: is it all it does ? it doesnt enhance the display at all ? no i will not be playins 3d games on this |
| 06:24.24 | stew | Teddy: which chipset do you have? |
| 06:24.29 | new2nix | its a fact. The sky is blue, ubuntu sucks. |
| 06:24.37 | stew | new2nix: keep it on topic please |
| 06:24.39 | Teddy | stew: X700 |
| 06:24.42 | rohan | new2nix: wow, how many pc's and various hardwire devices have you tried ubuntu on ? |
| 06:24.49 | rohan | well yeah, i am going really OT :-/ |
| 06:24.58 | Teddy | stew: the display didnt work beofre or after installing the ati drivers |
| 06:24.59 | stew | Teddy: oh, nm i don't think that is suppoerted by the free drivers |
| 06:25.30 | rohan | so, getting back to where i was, how about removing the ubuntu thing from topic ? i heard someone say on #ubuntu "#debian's topic itself shows how famous ubuntu is" :P |
| 06:25.50 | stew | rohan: please keep it on topic |
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| 06:26.28 | new2nix | six, but he is right. I've also installed Xandros, Root, Mandrake (now Mandriva), Gentoo, Slackware, Redhat (now Fedora), Xandros, Mepis, and others on all of them ... |
| 06:26.36 | Teddy | stew: i dont muind reinstalling now (since i already destroyed my install after last night apt problem) but what are the packages to install to get a kde going this time ? |
| 06:26.44 | new2nix | ... /end rant |
| 06:27.19 | rohan | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.21 | rohan | new2nix: :) |
| 06:27.41 | stew | Teddy: apt-get install kde ; but you'll have to get x working before its useful |
| 06:28.01 | rohan | apt-get install kde will install LOTs of stuff .. better to kde-core |
| 06:28.03 | iKernel | grr |
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| 06:28.05 | rohan | and then add kde apps as you want |
| 06:28.08 | Hatter | teddy: it may be your mouse |
| 06:28.16 | iKernel | i am going to make a script, bunzip2 and tar xvf together |
| 06:28.18 | Teddy | stew: ok and is xdm + x-window-system-core enough to do that ? |
| 06:28.23 | Hatter | teddy: apt-get install mousedev and psmouse |
| 06:28.35 | Teddy | hatter: it says no screen found, can it still be a mouse issue ? |
| 06:29.00 | tralala | iKernel: or you may use the option 'j' of tar as an alternative |
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| 06:29.08 | rohan | Teddy: check your logs in /var/log/ and ~/.xsession-errors |
| 06:29.17 | iKernel | tralala, tried... |
| 06:30.12 | Aconitic | Ok so im almost done the mem test and no errors |
| 06:30.18 | Aconitic | if its not a memory problem what could it be? |
| 06:30.41 | Teddy | rohan: there is no .xsession file |
| 06:31.08 | Teddy | rohan: and the log says no screen found |
| 06:31.46 | Aconitic | How difficult would it be to create a bootable file? |
| 06:31.49 | Hatter | teddy: sorry, can't remember if no screen found is still produced, I know I needed a mouse driver installed before it x-window-system worked though |
| 06:32.06 | Teddy | HAtter: investigating that, thanks |
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| 06:33.05 | appelza | I've a package called foo, which should install bar if bar is not installed, how do I set that? |
| 06:33.14 | chealer | Hatter: "no screens found" doesn't indicate a mouse issue |
| 06:33.24 | Hatter | chealer: ok thanks |
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| 06:33.34 | peterS | appelza: "Depends: bar" in the debian/control file |
| 06:33.39 | sep | appelza, depend on bar in the control file |
| 06:34.05 | appelza | ive tried that, it then just tells me that its required..how do i get it to automaticly install bar? OR will it just do that if both packages are in the apt repo ? |
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| 06:34.35 | sep | appelza, correct, if it's not available it wont install it |
| 06:34.52 | Hatter | sep: to rebuld initrd = mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-2-686 2.6.8-2-686 ? |
| 06:35.08 | appelza | how does it check availability? only if its in the apt repo? |
| 06:35.08 | apt-abhi | hi |
| 06:35.09 | sep | Hatter, or just dpkg-reconfigure kerne-image-version |
| 06:35.09 | peterS | Hatter: 'dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686' |
| 06:35.09 | Johnny_5 | why can't i get totem to play .wmv? |
| 06:35.16 | peterS | Hatter: that's sort of cheating, but it works fine (: |
| 06:35.53 | Growly | i need help with cvs |
| 06:35.57 | Growly | please :) |
| 06:36.13 | iKernel | Fetched 11.5MB in 1m10s (163kB/s) -- i love 1.5mb internet |
| 06:36.23 | peterS | Growly: most cvs questions are not specific to debian, so you're not likely to get particularly good support here |
| 06:36.27 | sep | appelza, the apt database that you generate from your sources.list with apt-get update |
| 06:36.44 | peterS | iKernel: yeah, I've been meaning to downgrade to 1.5mbit, to save money. it's more than fast enough for me. |
| 06:36.50 | Growly | peterS - i know, but i'm not aware of a general n00b channel (other than #ubuntu) |
| 06:36.55 | chealer | Johnny_5: totem can't play all WMV files (by default, at least) |
| 06:37.05 | Hatter | sep and peters: ok thks |
| 06:37.15 | iKernel | peterS, Why haven't you? |
| 06:37.16 | appelza | Oh k, makes sense, thanks sep |
| 06:37.21 | peterS | Growly: many open source projects have their own irc support channels. I don't know if cvs does. you can try to see if #cvs exists |
| 06:37.29 | Johnny_5 | can thta be changed? |
| 06:37.33 | peterS | iKernel: just haven't gotten around to calling att |
| 06:37.43 | dondelelcaro | Growly: alternatively, you can try asking a useful question here, and if someone knows, they'll answer. |
| 06:37.47 | iKernel | ok |
| 06:37.49 | chealer | Johnny_5: if you're on i386, it should |
| 06:38.00 | dondelelcaro | (or we'll tell you to use bzr or svn instead) |
| 06:38.01 | Johnny_5 | i am |
| 06:38.07 | Growly | peterS - there is such a chanell, but it appears to be dead. |
| 06:38.13 | Johnny_5 | how do i changed so that it does? |
| 06:38.15 | chealer | !tell Johnny_5 about w32codecs |
| 06:38.17 | Growly | dondelelcaro - I take that as your permission to do so? |
| 06:38.19 | Growly | here goes: |
| 06:38.35 | Growly | i want to get the latest source for a project from a sourceforge repository. |
| 06:38.49 | peterS | Growly: right. if we think the question is inappropriate for this sort of channel, we'll tell you. meanwhile, we may have someone who knows the answer, so you may as well ask |
| 06:39.10 | Growly | the command i'm told is cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@verlihub.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/verlihub login (guess which project, hah) |
| 06:39.10 | Johnny_5 | thanx |
| 06:39.21 | Growly | it doesn't achieve anything. |
| 06:39.26 | dondelelcaro | Growly: that just logs you in. |
| 06:39.29 | peterS | Growly: the 'login' subcommand just stores the password in your home directory |
| 06:39.37 | Growly | oh. |
| 06:39.41 | Growly | well holy crap. |
| 06:39.45 | peterS | Growly: then you use a 'checkout [something]' command with the same command line |
| 06:39.46 | dondelelcaro | Growly: you need to then cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@verlihub.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/verlihub co verlihub; or whatever the module is. |
| 06:40.00 | Growly | that would be the next command |
| 06:40.05 | Growly | thank you all, you've been great :) |
| 06:40.06 | peterS | yeah |
| 06:40.07 | peterS | (: |
| 06:40.16 | tralala | !room |
| 06:40.16 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 06:40.18 | sep | Growly, long arms there |
| 06:40.48 | tralala | !hug Growly |
| 06:41.07 | tralala | there - a happy ending |
| 06:41.21 | Growly | fantastic. |
| 06:41.29 | Growly | ls |
| 06:41.51 | Growly | aha |
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| 06:42.36 | Hatter | sep: well, this time it worked. I guess i mustn't have rebuilt the initrd. at what point is the mdadm.conf file necessary ? |
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| 06:43.35 | Mitosh | Any DRBD experts around? |
| 06:43.56 | iturk | hi there my friends i have a SD card and a port in my laptop for putting it but in my dmesg doesnt says nothing when i put the card how can i configure this is there support in the kernel ?? |
| 06:44.19 | sep | Hatter, technical not at all, it shoudl all be in the superblocks of the md. but if you get a trouble with your md having a writeup of the config is priceless |
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| 06:47.34 | sep | Mitosh, that is not a real question and you wont get answers that way. |
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| 06:47.51 | bartden | how can i make a sym link from /usr/X11R6 to ../usr |
| 06:48.16 | sep | bartden, man ln |
| 06:48.18 | ApEtc | bartden: ln |
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| 06:50.39 | iKernel | Yay, now I have subversion installed. |
| 06:51.12 | seb- | how come public key errors disappeared from 'apt-get upate' ? |
| 06:51.21 | seb- | (i'm on testing/etch) |
| 06:51.32 | iKernel | I forgot how to add something to my PATH variable again. How do I do it? |
| 06:51.40 | Hatter | sep: thanks for your help |
| 06:53.00 | iKernel | never mind |
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| 06:57.20 | iturk | This is the details of my card bus can someone help -> http://pastebin.com/734628 ?? |
| 06:57.32 | Teddy | hi again, whci X server drivers should i pick for a laptop ? |
| 06:57.49 | Teddy | i keep having this no screen found error and redoing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xree86 |
| 06:58.03 | Teddy | so far i was trying to use "vesa" |
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| 06:58.38 | Hatter | sep: can you give me a one sentence commercial on software raid ? have you had any issues ? I have just d/c both drives and it came up fine. excited about putting this to commercial use. |
| 06:59.26 | iturk | Teddy: what is your VGA controller you can consult it using lspci !! |
| 06:59.33 | Hatter | troubled: I think you are troubled. |
| 06:59.43 | troubled | Hatter: who asked you?! :) |
| 07:00.06 | troubled | Hatter: a stranger, or old aquaintance? |
| 07:00.20 | Teddy | iturk thanks |
| 07:00.25 | Hatter | troubled: stranger danger |
| 07:00.35 | troubled | Hatter: gotcha |
| 07:00.43 | Teddy | iturk: thanks it looks like it should be vga then |
| 07:00.52 | troubled | bah, my typing is terrible at this height |
| 07:01.08 | iturk | Teddy: what it says the entire line ?! |
| 07:01.25 | sep | Hatter, i didnt understand the question. |
| 07:01.44 | Teddy | VGA compatible controller: ati technologies inc: unknown device 5653 |
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| 07:02.04 | Hatter | sep: have you run into any problems or gotchas using software raid ? |
| 07:02.05 | sep | Teddy, update-pciids ; lspci |
| 07:02.14 | iturk | Teddy: ok you have to add support to it in the kernel because of the unknown device 5653 |
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| 07:02.30 | iturk | its like you have to call some module |
| 07:02.33 | iturk | for it |
| 07:02.39 | Teddy | iturk: oh ok and i do that with sep's update-pciids command ? |
| 07:02.56 | iturk | well i dont know that command |
| 07:03.12 | iturk | type modconf has root |
| 07:03.25 | iturk | and search for the modules of ATI |
| 07:03.30 | Teddy | command not found |
| 07:03.34 | iturk | has root |
| 07:03.42 | sep | Hatter, problems usualy surface becouse of a drive failing. _allways_ keep only 1 drive on each ide channel ie dont use slave drives, since a dying drive can take down the whole channel and give you a 2 drive failure |
| 07:03.50 | Teddy | iturk: i ma as root |
| 07:03.51 | iturk | Teddy: what is your distribution |
| 07:03.52 | sep | Hatter, have backups |
| 07:04.10 | Teddy | iturk: i just installed sarge 3.1 net install |
| 07:04.22 | Hatter | sep: indeed. Thanks. |
| 07:04.37 | Teddy | iturk: installing modconf now |
| 07:04.37 | sep | Hatter, iv used it for 4 years both privatly and on a few servers. and it's working nicely. have had 2 drive failes in the time. but it was just relpace drive partition and hotadd |
| 07:05.01 | iturk | Teddy: in your xserver you will add ATI is a driver there but before you have to add support to it and make the unknown device 5653 go out !! |
| 07:05.23 | Teddy | iturk:modconf running now |
| 07:05.26 | sep | Teddy, lspci compares pciid's on your mainboard with known hardware update-pciids downloads a new list of known hardware from the net giving you moer detaild info when you run lspci |
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| 07:05.47 | Teddy | set: ok thanks, i try that |
| 07:05.50 | Hatter | iturk: I keep reading your msg's and exclaiming. please, it's hurting my eyebrows. |
| 07:06.00 | iturk | try to get the exact reference of your ATI making lspci -v |
| 07:06.38 | Hatter | sep: that's great, have you always used identical drives ? |
| 07:06.48 | Teddy | iturk: it sees the ati radeon now |
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| 07:07.22 | Aconitic | hey, i just did a mem test and the first time it went without any errors, then it started again and im getting like 580,000 errors |
| 07:07.22 | Aconitic | what does that mean? |
| 07:07.22 | Aconitic | is any of my ram bad? |
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| 07:08.10 | Teddy | iturk: so i re run dpkg-reconf... xserver-xfree86 now ? |
| 07:08.16 | sep | Hatter, usualy. but it's not requiered, there is a theory that identical drives have a higher chance of failing at the same time period. but even with different drives the added stress of going degraded can generate a 2 drive failure. generaly i use identical drive s and have backupdrives layingaround so i can replace quickly nicase a drive fail. |
| 07:08.35 | iturk | Teddy: put ATI |
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| 07:09.12 | Teddy | iturk: ok |
| 07:09.29 | Hatter | aconitic: if you don't trust your ram tester try a different one. |
| 07:09.50 | Teddy | iturk: nope, still doesnt work |
| 07:10.05 | RvGaTe | morning... |
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| 07:10.12 | Teddy | iturk: (EE) no devices detected as a run startx |
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| 07:10.55 | Hatter | sep: Thanks for your info. |
| 07:11.14 | Teddy | iturk: if i use VESA it now says screen found but none have a usable configuration |
| 07:11.42 | Aconitic | hatter, its not that ive just never used it before |
| 07:11.56 | Aconitic | i was getting a kernel error and someone said it might be my memory and to memtest it |
| 07:11.59 | Aconitic | so i did |
| 07:12.03 | sep | Teddy, is it a recent asus card |
| 07:12.14 | Aconitic | and im not sure how to interpret the results |
| 07:12.24 | Teddy | it's a laptop i got in september last year; card is radeon mobility x700 |
| 07:12.26 | iturk | Teddy: you still have the unknown device in lspci maybe !! |
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| 07:13.02 | Teddy | iturk: no it says ati radeon mobilty x700 in lspci |
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| 07:13.45 | Teddy | iturk: i just trie using vga and now it says driver can't support depth over 24 |
| 07:14.05 | Teddy | iturk: but at least the screen is found then |
| 07:14.16 | iturk | Teddy: ati is the right configuration something is wrong in other place |
| 07:14.30 | superlinux | hello. how can I tell squid to cache DNS queries? |
| 07:14.59 | iturk | Hatter: what it is hurting you ???! |
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| 07:16.01 | Teddy | iturk: what was i suppose to do in modconf ? |
| 07:16.36 | Hatter | sep: i have just removed ide cables from each of the drives and booted. now i have them both back in. 2 of the partitions are showing as degraded. If i now add them back in to the array, do i need to rebuild the initrd again ? |
| 07:16.37 | tralala | Teddy: running sarge? |
| 07:16.52 | Teddy | tralala: yes i did install linux26 |
| 07:17.34 | tralala | Teddy: use the 'radeon' driver instead of ati |
| 07:17.34 | tralala | just edit the config file |
| 07:17.40 | Teddy | tralala: it doesnt appear when i run the reconfigure for xfree86 |
| 07:18.01 | iturk | Teddy: that is because that you have to edit |
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| 07:18.04 | tralala | I know, you have to edit the config file manually. |
| 07:18.43 | iturk | tralala: strange why they dont add it to the list ?! |
| 07:19.01 | Aconitic | anyone? |
| 07:19.01 | Nosf3ratu | bueller? |
| 07:19.02 | RvGaTe | funny, that you always see the same people at the same time of the day |
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| 07:19.22 | Teddy | tralala: i edited the file and tried startx - no devices detected |
| 07:19.32 | tralala | iturk: the ati driver is supposed to recognize the card and load the appropriate driver. I guess it's a bug. |
| 07:19.37 | Teddy | i only edited that one line driver "ati" into driver "radeon" |
| 07:19.58 | sep | Hatter, no dont think so |
| 07:20.08 | tralala | Teddy: can you pastebin your X log? |
| 07:20.21 | Hatter | aconitic: trust your ram tester. get a 2nd one if you like. faulty ram won't always be detected but if the ram tester says its faulty then believe and replace the ram |
| 07:20.54 | iturk | Teddy: past your file config file also the part of the ATI |
| 07:21.01 | iturk | or radeon |
| 07:21.16 | tralala | RvGaTe: yeah, it kinda makes you think that this is the time when they're not sleeping |
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| 07:21.48 | mo1991 | what is a good program to convert rmvb files to avi or mpeg? |
| 07:21.52 | RvGaTe | tralala: ehmm... duh? :P |
| 07:21.53 | mo1991 | avidemux doesn't do rmvb |
| 07:23.09 | tralala | mo1991: tried mencoder? |
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| 07:25.05 | Aconitic | Hatter, There is 3 different ram sticks though, my question is how do i know which ones faulty? |
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| 07:25.09 | Aconitic | Try each one individually? |
| 07:25.15 | Hatter | aconitic: yes |
| 07:25.26 | Aconitic | alright |
| 07:25.27 | Aconitic | thanks |
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| 07:25.44 | Teddy | iturk: where do i send u that log file ? |
| 07:25.58 | iturk | Teddy: http://pastebin.com |
| 07:26.15 | jimMmy | hi i just compiled a new kernel with the standard kernel settings of sarge(2.6) but now when during booting the system after the console font setting the whole screen gets darker. does anybody know why? |
| 07:27.26 | Teddy | iturk: http://pastebin.com/734655 |
| 07:27.28 | Teddy | sep: http://pastebin.com/734655 |
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| 07:28.46 | Teddy | iturk: sep: my lspci too : http://pastebin.com/734657 |
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| 07:30.29 | sep | Teddy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150854 |
| 07:31.05 | pbryan | Anyone know of SATA problems with kernel 2.6.x? |
| 07:31.34 | sep | pbryan, ofcouse. |
| 07:31.42 | Hatter | sep: ok, after rebooting arrays are fine. so no I didn't need to rebuild initrd. (phew) |
| 07:31.59 | pbryan | sep: Seen the "kernel: Disabling IRQ #11" message? |
| 07:32.03 | Hatter | pbryan: the pains of half of my day yesterday. |
| 07:32.09 | iturk | tralala: can you see the X700 in the list of Teddy ?! |
| 07:32.12 | pbryan | Hatter: Any advice? |
| 07:32.23 | pbryan | irqpoll? acpi=off? |
| 07:32.27 | Hatter | pbryan: it's painful. get an ide drive. |
| 07:32.30 | pbryan | Heh. |
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| 07:32.48 | Teddy | sep: i added that KernelModule line in my config, no change |
| 07:33.05 | tralala | iturk: yep, why? |
| 07:33.09 | Hatter | pbryan: if you find an easy answer, please come back and tell me |
| 07:33.28 | pbryan | Hatter: It doesn't timeout if I add irqpoll to the kernel command. |
| 07:33.32 | sep | Teddy, from your pastebin it looks like that driver dont support that card, can that be correct ? i dont see x700 in it's output |
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| 07:33.51 | twager | Anyone tell me how to alter the file availability colours in ktorrent ? |
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| 07:34.02 | pbryan | Hatter: Eventually, I get a "Disabling IRQ #11" message, which seems to have no effect on system performance. |
| 07:34.13 | pbryan | Hatter: At least it boots and work. |
| 07:34.17 | Teddy | sep: i remember stew saying something about that card not being well suported by the free driver |
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| 07:34.27 | Hatter | pbryan: it seems there are some chipsets that don't work at all |
| 07:34.37 | pbryan | Hatter: Yeah, mine is sata_sil driver. |
| 07:34.39 | signius | Hi guys |
| 07:34.41 | Teddy | sep: funny thing is i had it working before with the fglrx driver on kernel 2.4 |
| 07:34.43 | iturk | tralala: well in the end says devices not detected so i would say that is not in the list |
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| 07:34.48 | Hatter | pbryan: i have a server that is sata that is fine, but the others i have tried won't boot |
| 07:35.07 | iturk | Teddy: your version of xserver is old try the 4.5.0 |
| 07:35.08 | pbryan | Hatter: Both with 2.6 kernel? |
| 07:35.09 | tralala | iturk: I can see that by the "list" you mean the X log. |
| 07:35.15 | Hatter | pbryan: yes |
| 07:35.15 | iturk | yes |
| 07:35.34 | genelisp | hi, I'm trying to get vsftpd working with pam, and failing miserably - I can't login as a normal user to the system - can anyone help? |
| 07:35.36 | pbryan | Hatter: Interesting. Well, so far, so good with irqpoll. But the IRQ message is still somewhat disquieting. |
| 07:35.38 | tralala | Teddy: you have two options - install xorg from backports.org or install the propriarity ati drivers. |
| 07:36.15 | iturk | tralala: i think he need a new version of Xfree for getting support Teddy version is 4.3.0 the new one is 4.5.0 |
| 07:36.15 | Teddy | tralala: whats worg ? |
| 07:36.17 | Hatter | pbryan: i haven't seen that one. the one that is working is going great, for over a year now, but not the other two I have tried |
| 07:36.33 | tralala | iturk: I don't think 4.5.0 is in debian. |
| 07:36.42 | Hatter | pbryan: which chipset do you have ? |
| 07:36.46 | signius | Bit of a newbie here to debian admin............. I managed to set up syslog to monitor my router yesterday and would like to also see monitor the syslog file in realtime on occasions what command should i use to do this ? I tried tail | /var/log/zyxel.log but get a permission denied error am i using the wrong command or do i need to change some permissions ? |
| 07:36.48 | Teddy | iturk: i installed the version apt-get found, what should be added to sources.lsit to get 4.5.0 |
| 07:36.55 | pbryan | Hatter: Took a lot of google digging to find that. (Silicon chipset). |
| 07:36.58 | tralala | Teddy: the new X server that debian is using. |
| 07:37.30 | Hatter | signius: tail -f syslog |
| 07:37.33 | Teddy | tralala: okay i will try that |
| 07:37.46 | signius | Hatter ok i will try that |
| 07:37.47 | iturk | Teddy: is not in debian but you can compile it by hand download from here -> http://www.xfree86.org/releases/rel450.html |
| 07:37.59 | signius | should i put in the full path to the syslog i want to monitor ? |
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| 07:38.30 | signius | ok got it thanks |
| 07:38.38 | signius | Thanks Hatter |
| 07:38.57 | Hatter | pbryan: I am pretty sure the working one is intel, the one that wouldn't work was intel also, one version different or something like that |
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| 07:39.03 | tralala | Teddy, iturk: I don't recommend using non-debian software with debian when alternatives exist. |
| 07:39.32 | iturk | Teddy: like tralala says you can find a new version of xserver for debian |
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| 07:39.51 | iturk | also i think its the best option |
| 07:41.15 | Teddy | tralala , iturk: thanks for your help i m trying to install xorg from backportsn now |
| 07:42.21 | Teddy | tralala: should i install xserver-xorg or the xserver-xfree86 first (it says traditional transitional package from xserver to xorg) |
| 07:42.46 | tralala | Teddy: xserver-xorg |
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| 07:45.23 | Teddy | tralala, iturk: i just installed and done startx, the screen went black (no kde or anything installed yet) so i guess it's working this time |
| 07:46.36 | Teddy | tralala iturk: i go on with install kde , i hope this time it will run, thanks a lot for your help |
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| 07:47.29 | tralala | Teddy: try rightclicking - you should get a menu |
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| 07:49.19 | Teddy | tralala: hmm i dont see it |
| 07:49.48 | DragonDave | Anyone herd of a proxy that does compression. like the client could use a local program to connect to a server and access websites and such and the data from the server to the client be compressed, then local program could act as a proxy for any software? |
| 07:50.25 | iturk | Teddy: install kde you will be more familiar with the environment |
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| 07:50.52 | tralala | Teddy: do you see the pointer moving? |
| 07:51.18 | Teddy | tralala: nope - complete black screen |
| 07:51.39 | Teddy | tralala how do i rerun the x server config: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
| 07:52.19 | tralala | Teddy: does ctrl+alt+backspace do anything? |
| 07:52.32 | Teddy | yes comes back to the console |
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| 07:53.24 | tralala | ok, at least the X server hasn't hanged. Try to reconfigure. You're supposed to see at least the mouse pointer when you start X. |
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| 07:53.56 | Teddy | ok |
| 07:54.13 | Marsmensch | is there a simply possibility to mount my desktop's soundcard on my laptop? |
| 07:54.14 | sid | DragonDave: I believe squid has an extension/plugin that does that. /join #squid |
| 07:54.15 | sid | !squid |
| 07:54.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, squid is the Squid Internet object Cache a fast web proxy server. Its home page is at http://squid.nlanr.net/, or easy to do transproxy with, see http://www.unxsoft.com/transproxy.html, or faster than netscape's own cache, use it!, but uses much more memory, or http://thor.prohosting.com/~nchansy/meal/squid.jpg, or tasty in battered ring form |
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| 07:54.19 | tralala | Teddy: you did install all the dependancies of the xserver-xorg, didn't you? |
| 07:54.42 | Teddy | tralala i installed with apt-get thinking it d do the right thing |
| 07:54.51 | tralala | Teddy: good |
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| 07:55.18 | tralala | !wayttd Marsmensch |
| 07:55.18 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Marsmensch? |
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| 07:55.29 | tijn | wtf |
| 07:55.42 | tijn | tralala: do i know you? |
| 07:55.58 | tralala | tijn: I don't think so. |
| 07:56.02 | tijn | ah nvrmnd, its a user :D |
| 07:56.07 | tijn | my last name is marsman |
| 07:56.08 | tijn | ;) |
| 07:56.27 | tijn | same as marsmensch |
| 07:56.35 | yereth | lol.. tijn: Martijn Marsman? |
| 07:56.39 | yereth | of zo |
| 07:56.41 | tijn | yer |
| 07:56.42 | tijn | ha |
| 07:56.50 | tijn | jep |
| 07:56.53 | yereth | lol |
| 07:56.58 | yereth | nice surname ;) |
| 07:57.10 | tijn | hehe |
| 07:57.12 | rpt | which ident daemon do you guys use/prefer? |
| 07:57.30 | tralala | !best |
| 07:57.30 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 07:57.38 | rpt | haha |
| 07:57.40 | tralala | we only use the best |
| 07:57.47 | rpt | how does that work, !best <item>? |
| 07:57.57 | mo1991 | anyone have a .deb of mencoder with all options available? |
| 07:58.10 | mo1991 | real codec not available at nerim site |
| 07:58.18 | tralala | mo1991: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 07:58.39 | tralala | mo1991: the package is mplayer |
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| 07:59.26 | sid | mornfall: What version of debian are you running? |
| 07:59.55 | sid | mo1991: What version of debian are you running and what type of cpu do you have? |
| 08:00.04 | mornfall | sid: me? |
| 08:00.09 | mornfall | aha |
| 08:00.19 | sid | mornfall: no sorry |
| 08:00.24 | Teddy | tralala no luck |
| 08:00.38 | tralala | mornfall: no, you've just joined surprisingly |
| 08:00.43 | tralala | ;) |
| 08:00.54 | tralala | Teddy: paste your X log again |
| 08:01.09 | mornfall | irssi was acting real weird :) |
| 08:01.14 | yereth | hrmm.. can't believe I'm updating KDE on a server on which I *never* logon to X |
| 08:01.24 | yereth | irssi rules |
| 08:01.35 | mornfall | it doesn't, it's buggy right now |
| 08:01.42 | mornfall | the previous version was better |
| 08:01.53 | mornfall | and my clock says 3am |
| 08:01.59 | mornfall | which is of course wrong |
| 08:02.03 | mornfall | my clock is jetlagged ;-) |
| 08:02.14 | tralala | mornfall: /msg dpkg enter |
| 08:02.15 | yereth | you took a plain with irssi? |
| 08:02.17 | yereth | :) |
| 08:02.45 | mornfall | not irssi clock, cellphone clock |
| 08:02.52 | yereth | irssi prefers to hang about on a stable server somewhere in a dusty closet where no one can find the physical machine |
| 08:02.56 | yereth | you knew that right? |
| 08:03.17 | yereth | cellphone :/ |
| 08:03.33 | etrask | msg dpkg testing security |
| 08:03.37 | etrask | er, whoops :P |
| 08:03.40 | yereth | lol |
| 08:03.46 | yereth | try a slash in front :P |
| 08:03.58 | etrask | yeah, i forgot... i'm dumb *slaps forehead* |
| 08:04.04 | yereth | etrask: testing doesn't have security updates |
| 08:04.07 | Teddy | tralala: http://pastebin.com/734681 |
| 08:04.11 | tralala | yereth: now it does |
| 08:04.12 | mornfall | yereth: since when? |
| 08:04.31 | yereth | since when does it? |
| 08:04.37 | yereth | the website says it doesn't |
| 08:04.41 | yereth | ow no |
| 08:04.59 | etrask | hahah, i don't even know what it's for, just thought dpkg's response oughta be fun |
| 08:05.07 | yereth | lol |
| 08:05.23 | yereth | sorry, they don't garantee the 'quick' updates the stable release gets |
| 08:05.28 | yereth | I mixed up some things |
| 08:05.31 | yereth | it's still early |
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| 08:05.38 | etrask | ah |
| 08:05.48 | etrask | mmmm... caffeine |
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| 08:06.29 | tralala | Teddy: did you tell the X server to use framebuffer? |
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| 08:06.38 | mark_ | hello deb-heads, who can help me with either a) rebuilding a package to link against libmysqlclient15off instead of libmysqlclient15, or b) tell apt to force install this package and shut the hell up about dependencies |
| 08:06.43 | Teddy | tralala: at first yes and then i tried again with no |
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| 08:07.11 | yereth | lol |
| 08:07.26 | Azar | mark_: are you willing to deal with dependencies on your own? |
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| 08:07.50 | yereth | !caffeine |
| 08:07.50 | dpkg | from memory, caffeine is every programmers greatest need or the giver of life-source and the taker of sleep or necessary for most system administrators who have to deal with idiots who think that the world starts at 9a and ends at 5p. http://www.reallifecomics.com/comics/20000710.gif, or http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/caffeine/caffeine.shtml |
| 08:07.54 | tralala | Teddy: reconfigure and disable dri |
| 08:07.59 | Zugschlus | !kaffeine |
| 08:08.07 | yereth | :P |
| 08:08.13 | Teddy | tralala: dri ? |
| 08:08.17 | etrask | whoa |
| 08:08.21 | etrask | it's like dpkg knows my life story |
| 08:08.39 | yereth | etrask: that says more about you than about our bot.. |
| 08:08.41 | yereth | ;) |
| 08:08.45 | tralala | Teddy: the configuration will ask you about the things to load. Uncheck dri from the list. |
| 08:08.50 | chealer | mark_: which release do you use? |
| 08:08.59 | mo1991 | tralala - I installed the mencoder package - |
| 08:09.08 | mo1991 | I already had mplayer |
| 08:09.22 | mo1991 | trying to convert a rmvb file to .avi or mpeg |
| 08:09.30 | mo1991 | sid |
| 08:09.36 | mo1991 | I am running etch amd64 |
| 08:09.47 | mo1991 | on my amd64 processor |
| 08:09.53 | tralala | mo1991: I thought they were in the same package. |
| 08:10.00 | mo1991 | not surer |
| 08:10.03 | mo1991 | not sure |
| 08:10.07 | etrask | I dunno, yereth, your bot seems pretty smart! =D |
| 08:10.10 | mark_ | Azar: well, i'm assuming that libmysqlclient15off will provide the libraries that my package is looking for in libmysqlclient15 |
| 08:10.14 | mark_ | chealer: etch |
| 08:10.19 | mo1991 | nope |
| 08:10.20 | tralala | nevermind. does mplayer play this rmvb file? |
| 08:10.24 | mo1991 | tralala - nope |
| 08:10.24 | Teddy | tralala: done and started X, still a black screen |
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| 08:10.48 | shaibn | hi :) |
| 08:11.04 | tralala | mo1991: perhaps you need the win32 codecs, but they will not work with a 64bit mplayer. |
| 08:11.06 | Azar | mark_: whatever you wish you will get. Don't feel sorry about it later |
| 08:11.07 | mornfall | dpkg: tell me about enter |
| 08:11.13 | mo1991 | tralala - right |
| 08:11.16 | shaibn | i wanted to know if sarge is the latest stable debian dist? why does it only use kernel 2.4? |
| 08:11.20 | tralala | mornfall: /msg dpkg enter |
| 08:11.45 | mo1991 | tralala - There is no 32 bit mplayer that will just run on 64 bit tho right - need to do a chroot or whatever? |
| 08:12.00 | tralala | mo1991: so you can install a 32bit mplayer and mencoder under a 32bit chroot with win32 codecs and try that way. |
| 08:12.18 | mornfall | tralala: *shrug* what's your problem? |
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| 08:12.39 | mo1991 | tralala - how difficult is installing the chroot stuff? |
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| 08:13.09 | tralala | mornfall: I don't think I have a problem. I'm only trying to help you to use the bot. |
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| 08:13.23 | mornfall | tralala: i think you have, see, i am not stupid |
| 08:13.34 | mornfall | tralala: you don't have to repeat same thing around |
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| 08:14.08 | mornfall | tralala: if the line bothers you, tell so |
| 08:14.31 | tralala | mo1991: it's not difficult. There is an amd64 howto that describes it. |
| 08:14.49 | mark_ | Azar: is my assumption incorrect? |
| 08:14.55 | chealer | mark_: well, what's the issue with installing the package? |
| 08:14.58 | maheem | hi2all.who use etch testing? |
| 08:15.17 | tralala | mornfall: sorry, I had forgotten. I saw you asking dpkg and I gave you the easy option to ask. |
| 08:16.02 | Azar | mark_: the only thing I captured from your question was that you are trying to install a package that apt tells you it won't resolve dependencies for |
| 08:16.11 | mornfall | tralala: heh, ok... i find the tell me one easier |
| 08:16.12 | mark_ | Azar: yes |
| 08:16.15 | mo1991 | tralala - can I just install the ia32 libraries and then 32 mplayer and it will work? This is the quick way in the howto? |
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| 08:16.25 | tralala | Teddy: the log again? |
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| 08:16.34 | mornfall | tralala: which also makes the person telling me to ask dpkg something know that i actually asked |
| 08:16.50 | mark_ | chealer: the problem is that my package (ser-mysql-module) is dependent on libmysqlclient15 |
| 08:16.58 | Azar | mark_: it just does not make a safe move for me, but maybe somebody else can help you over it: backports and such |
| 08:17.08 | mark_ | chealer: but etch doesn't have that, only libmysqlclient15off |
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| 08:17.37 | tralala | mornfall: okay :) |
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| 08:17.46 | sid | jeez xorg 7.1 was released |
| 08:17.54 | sid | They're pumping out the releases |
| 08:18.09 | tralala | mo1991: I don't know. I personally use chroot. |
| 08:18.21 | Teddy | tralala: there http://pastebin.com/734692 |
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| 08:18.38 | fireba11 | how to force filesystem to re-calculate free space ? |
| 08:18.59 | shaibn | anyone? |
| 08:18.59 | Nosf3ratu | bueller? |
| 08:19.02 | chealer | mark_: well it's a choice, you can either install ...15 or ...15off. installing ...15 may be non-trivial in current Etch |
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| 08:19.21 | Azar | ferris? |
| 08:19.39 | mark_ | chealer: enh |
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| 08:20.15 | brownie17 | can anyone tell me a command to end all print jobs on the printer? |
| 08:20.42 | mark_ | chealer: installing from source then i guess |
| 08:21.04 | callee | brownie17: depends on the printing system |
| 08:21.23 | shaibn | i wanted to know if sarge is the latest stable debian dist? why does it only use kernel 2.4? |
| 08:21.24 | brownie17 | callee, do you know the URL for that printer config page? |
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| 08:21.35 | blondie | shaibn: yes it is, and it has a choice of 2.4 or 2.6 |
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| 08:21.46 | brownie17 | callee, i thought it was something like http://127.0.0.1, but that's not it |
| 08:21.52 | tralala | Teddy: The log looks alright. So you're saying that the screen is still black and no pointer? |
| 08:22.01 | Teddy | tralala: yes |
| 08:22.02 | blondie | brownie17: http://127.0.0.1:631 |
| 08:22.08 | Azar | shaibn: by default it comes with 2.4 but it has a 2.6.8 precompiled, you can install it |
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| 08:22.22 | fluxdude | I've got an annoying error in mu logs, see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=447640 |
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| 08:22.29 | chealer | mark_: rebuilding your package looks like the best idea, but we can't help you building random stuff (unless you explain something going wrong and it's a generic problem) |
| 08:22.35 | Azar | shaibn: if you want to install debian sarge/stable with a 2.6 just mention : linux26 at install time |
| 08:23.46 | brownie17 | blondie, you know that off by heart? |
| 08:24.31 | blondie | brownie17: yes... |
| 08:25.21 | callee | brownie17: what printing system is it? |
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| 08:25.55 | RvGaTe | i think im being hacked atm |
| 08:25.59 | RvGaTe | and im not kidding |
| 08:26.16 | RvGaTe | netstat -a gives me strange stuff |
| 08:26.18 | callee | RvGaTe: best is to cut your internet connection as a preemptive actioin |
| 08:26.22 | etrask | well... I'd suggest unplugging the network all together and carefully reviewing your logs |
| 08:26.24 | tralala | RvGaTe: shut donw the computer, quickly! |
| 08:26.53 | junir | hi, I have a problem with my debian install and I have posted my message up on the debian.net forums. Perhaps somebody here can help me out though. Heres the message http://fourums.debian.net/viewforum.php?f=17 |
| 08:26.58 | callee | RvGaTe: do not shut it down! pull the plug! |
| 08:27.04 | shaibn | Azar, thanks :) |
| 08:27.06 | RvGaTe | cmon dudes |
| 08:27.15 | junir | Sorry misspell http://forums.debian.net/viewforum.php?f=17 |
| 08:27.19 | RvGaTe | i first have to figure out if im really being hacked |
| 08:27.29 | brownie17 | why would you choose to use 2.4? |
| 08:27.34 | callee | meaning shutdown may also be a problem itself in case someone modified the contents of shutdown-scripts/bootscripts |
| 08:27.35 | tralala | Teddy: do you have x-window-system installed? |
| 08:27.36 | junir | its the first message --screen throwing out hex |
| 08:27.36 | etrask | if your network cable isn't plugged in, i guarantee you are not being hacked :P |
| 08:27.43 | Teddy | nope |
| 08:27.50 | Teddy | sorry tralala: nope |
| 08:28.10 | callee | etrask: you can always sleep well knowing your computer is protected by scisssors |
| 08:28.14 | callee | ;) |
| 08:28.19 | tralala | Teddy: top X, install it, start X |
| 08:28.21 | etrask | It's a good rule of thumb |
| 08:28.21 | tralala | stop |
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| 08:29.25 | RvGaTe | http://pastebin.com/734708 <- the thing that bothers me is the sunrpc, 618, 621 |
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| 08:31.08 | tralala | etrask: I don't use network cables. Does this mean I'll never get hacked? |
| 08:31.23 | etrask | not remotely, unless you've got a wireless card :P |
| 08:31.33 | tralala | exactly! |
| 08:31.47 | etrask | well, I don't |
| 08:31.49 | callee | tralala: well, lets say as long as you do not put in current plug there will not be a problem even with a wireless card in your box |
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| 08:31.51 | etrask | [have a wireless card] |
| 08:32.05 | Libra102 | hell |
| 08:32.15 | Libra102 | hello |
| 08:32.23 | Libra102 | 혹시 ì´ì§€ìœ™ìŠ¤ 사용하시는 ë“œë¼ì´ë²„ 분 ê³„ì‹ ê°€ìš”? |
| 08:32.34 | RvGaTe | ehmm |
| 08:32.34 | RvGaTe | ? |
| 08:32.41 | Libra102 | huk.. sorry.. |
| 08:32.45 | callee | http://www.dumbentia.com/pdflib/scissors.pdf <-- 100% secure firewall :) |
| 08:32.52 | tralala | callee: yeah :) |
| 08:33.04 | brownie17 | Azar, what benefits does 2.4 have that 2.6 doesn't? |
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| 08:34.16 | Teddy | tralala: no luck still |
| 08:34.34 | Teddy | i checked the kdm logs and the xorg logs and couldnt find an error, only warnings |
| 08:35.01 | tralala | Teddy: you mean you have installed kde already? |
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| 08:35.05 | Gary | Libra102, that look's vary good :) |
| 08:35.07 | Teddy | yes |
| 08:35.17 | chealer | brownie17: its level of stability, most importantly |
| 08:35.19 | Azar | brownie17: is just adds more hardware/drivers support |
| 08:35.25 | Libra102 | :-) |
| 08:35.45 | chealer | Azar: he was talking about *2.4* vs 2.6 |
| 08:35.50 | Teddy | tralala: i installed kde after installing xorg when i thought it was working |
| 08:36.03 | RvGaTe | no alert, no hacker, wrong piece of code gave me wrong numbers :S fixed it |
| 08:36.04 | brownie17 | Azar, i have found that with 2.6 large videos play smoothly and look fine, but with 2.4 they are choppier, and sound is crappy. |
| 08:36.05 | callee | brownie17: 2.4 is stable while 2.6 is not |
| 08:36.05 | Marsmensch | tralala: sorry was gone for breakfast ... my 5.1 system is on the desktop ... for dvd viewing i use my laptop, but you can imagine sound from laptop is not so brilliant |
| 08:36.10 | Azar | brownie17: and older kernels might be less secure |
| 08:36.24 | brownie17 | callee, i didn't realise it was considered unstable. ubuntu uses it by default |
| 08:36.25 | Azar | 2.6 not stable? |
| 08:36.55 | chealer | !kernel of instability |
| 08:36.55 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal) |
| 08:36.58 | Azar | 2.6.16 maybe 2.6.8 is under sarge, and I guess it should be stable |
| 08:37.06 | callee | Azar: 2.6 is production-development-combo |
| 08:37.24 | brownie17 | gtg guys, cya |
| 08:37.33 | etrask | doesn't 2.6 support more hardware? it's the main reason i needed 2.6 on the box at work, with a VIA network card |
| 08:37.37 | etrask | 2.4 didn't support it |
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| 08:38.01 | Azar | callee: I have recently read about bugs in the 2.6 kernels indeed, but my Debian Sarge never crashed with its 2.6.8 kernel |
| 08:38.16 | callee | Azar: its not about crashes |
| 08:38.24 | tralala | Marsmensch: so you want the sound output on the desktop and the picture on the laptop? |
| 08:38.26 | RvGaTe | exit |
| 08:38.27 | callee | also about driver problems |
| 08:38.30 | RvGaTe | wrong window |
| 08:38.31 | RvGaTe | :P |
| 08:38.46 | Azar | etrask: indeed, but as many know, hardware drivers are buggy with or without a stable kernel |
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| 08:39.00 | tralala | Teddy: hmm, seems that you're out of luck. Googling for you card shows a lot of users having the same problem. |
| 08:39.27 | Marsmensch | tralala: yeah i think this would be nice ... but i wanna switch, in some situations sound on the notebook is better |
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| 08:40.21 | Teddy | tralala: well thanks a lot for your help anyway - i think i could try with the ati real driver (nothing to loose at this point) |
| 08:40.49 | tralala | Teddy: I'm afraid I've seen reports with the same problem using the ati driver |
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| 08:41.02 | Azar | and the way I see it suse wants to top the pile of shit a la mswindows with some sort of autorecognition package for drivers |
| 08:41.23 | callee | Azar: atm 2.6.16 screwed my graphics driver (no 3d, strange 2d behaviour) |
| 08:41.26 | Teddy | tralala: ok, do you think i could use another distribution maybe (one that u think would be close to a debian) ? |
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| 08:41.48 | tralala | Teddy: check this out: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/22985 |
| 08:41.55 | efaistos | hi |
| 08:42.09 | Azar | callee: I tested etch on my other box used a 2.6.15 kernel, it went ok but I prefered my old Sarge with the 2.6.8 so I am back at it |
| 08:42.17 | tralala | Teddy: it has some options for the config file that may help |
| 08:42.32 | callee | Azar: to me sarge is unusable, because i need it on a desktop |
| 08:43.03 | Azar | callee: your hardware too advanced for sarge? |
| 08:43.05 | callee | and stuff like online-banking (hbci) is unavailable for sarge |
| 08:43.13 | efaistos | did someone use rsync on a windows machine to synchronize two directories ? I have a problem with the path E: by example is considered like a remote host |
| 08:43.16 | callee | Azar: that as well |
| 08:43.22 | Azar | ah I see... I never do online banking |
| 08:43.35 | callee | my harddisk encryption requires kernel 2.6.10 at least |
| 08:43.39 | tralala | Marsmensch: this will be tough to make (if possible) |
| 08:43.40 | petemc | efaistos: i use rsync under cygwin, works fine |
| 08:43.40 | Azar | their servers will balk at linux users I guess |
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| 08:44.40 | Azar | callee: so you are one of those who trust online banking... interesting |
| 08:44.43 | siimo | anyone have problem with network randomly not starting in debian unstable? |
| 08:45.48 | callee | Azar: yes, i do online-banking with a chipcard |
| 08:46.00 | Marsmensch | tralala: yeah, this is the reason, i'm in #debian ;) |
| 08:46.02 | Azar | callee: good for you, good luck |
| 08:46.30 | callee | Azar: works fine, pin stays in the cardreader itself |
| 08:46.58 | Gary | callee, you must not like your mony to do your banking on line :) |
| 08:46.59 | Teddy | tralala: i dont know how you came accross that information but it works :) |
| 08:47.02 | uwe | hello, does anyone know what replace base-config in debian/testing |
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| 08:47.30 | Teddy | tralala: thanks so much ( i had lost hope of getting it to work) |
| 08:47.36 | efaistos | petemc: the problem is when i try to backupo to the directory d:\backup by example it thinks d: is a remote host |
| 08:47.54 | brownie17 | can someone help me? i need to know how to get the photos off my digital camera, when i plug it in it offers to get the photos off it, and i click yes and it does nothing |
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| 08:48.35 | brownie17 | efaistos, i know in windows in cases like that you must say file:/// before you type the actual directroy |
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| 08:49.15 | tralala | Teddy: congratulations :) |
| 08:49.57 | Teddy | tralala: one last question: is there a place where such info are gathered so it can help someone else out ? maybe i should add the info somwhere |
| 08:50.01 | brownie17 | does anyone know a way to browse to a connected digital camera if it is not appearing in the "Media folder"? |
| 08:50.06 | tralala | Marsmensch: have a look at jack-tools. I'm not sure if it will do the trick, but it sounds like it might. |
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| 08:50.22 | tralala | Teddy: I don't know. I used google. |
| 08:50.27 | efaistos | brownie17: i'll try that |
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| 08:50.43 | Marsmensch | ok thank you, i will do so |
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| 08:52.26 | brownie17 | tralala, how do you mount a usb device if it is not appearing in /media ?? |
| 08:52.33 | efaistos | brownie17: still trying to establish a connection to d: |
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| 08:52.45 | efaistos | so it cant and says d: unknow host |
| 08:52.58 | brownie17 | efaistos, sorry, can't help. try one less / though |
| 08:52.59 | efaistos | fuc*ù:$! windows |
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| 08:53.10 | efaistos | brownie17: already did |
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| 09:08.00 | Roey | eh |
| 09:09.05 | RvGaTe | ? |
| 09:09.11 | tijn | erh |
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| 09:11.32 | iKernel | er |
| 09:13.13 | sid | er |
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| 09:13.35 | iKernel | sid, you lose |
| 09:14.29 | Roey | RvGaTe, tijn: sorry thought I was at a console. |
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| 09:14.55 | RvGaTe | can someone check if my bnc took over? i got disconnected between 11.10 and 11.00 ? (its either a namechange or no disconnect message at all) |
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| 09:15.57 | blondie | RvGaTe: do you mean: |
| 09:15.58 | blondie | 16:03:35 -!- RvGaTe is now known as RvGaTe^off |
| 09:15.59 | blondie | 08:09:36 -!- RvGaTe^off is now known as RvGaTe |
| 09:16.16 | RvGaTe | that was this morning, im talking about 3min ago |
| 09:16.26 | RvGaTe | well, more like 6min ago now |
| 09:16.50 | blondie | nothing then |
| 09:16.55 | RvGaTe | pfew |
| 09:16.57 | RvGaTe | thx |
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| 09:22.58 | chump | hey does any one know of a good program for backing up and burning dvds? |
| 09:23.10 | formorer | dvdbackup |
| 09:23.18 | chump | thank you |
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| 09:23.49 | chump | does it have GUI? |
| 09:24.06 | formorer | for what? |
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| 09:24.18 | chump | does dvdbackup have a gui? |
| 09:24.24 | formorer | no |
| 09:24.47 | streuner | chump: how many data do you want backup? |
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| 09:25.06 | chump | i'm going too be backing up about 40 dvds |
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| 09:25.28 | streuner | so only copy them to another DVD? |
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| 09:25.51 | chump | yeah thats all i want to do |
| 09:26.03 | formorer | then dvdbackup is the best solution |
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| 09:26.19 | formorer | .oO( using commandline is much faster for 40 dvds ) |
| 09:26.47 | chump | how do i write it to a dvd? |
| 09:27.16 | formorer | growisofs |
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| 09:28.18 | chump | is that in the etch repos? |
| 09:28.36 | streuner | !info growisofs testing |
| 09:28.54 | streuner | dpkg> Package 'growisofs' does not exist. |
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| 09:29.09 | streuner | use /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 09:29.10 | Exotic_Matter | hey poepl |
| 09:29.11 | streuner | then |
| 09:29.21 | streuner | !info growisofs |
| 09:29.32 | chump | !info growisofs |
| 09:29.40 | streuner | that package has surely another name... |
| 09:29.43 | formorer | wrong package name |
| 09:29.54 | formorer | dvd+rw-tools |
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| 09:30.02 | formorer | (and yes it burns dvd-rw too) |
| 09:30.22 | streuner | !info dvd+rw-tools testing |
| 09:30.25 | dpkg | dvd+rw-tools: (DVD+-RW/R tools), section utils, is optional. Version: 6.1-2 (etch), Packaged size: 144 kB, Installed size: 424 kB |
| 09:30.27 | formorer | (and yes its in stable and testing too) |
| 09:31.06 | streuner | !tell chump about search |
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| 09:31.51 | coder | Hello! How i can record CD-R from GNOME, but not using nutilus-cd? Need program with GUI (Nero in Win). |
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| 09:33.27 | tijn | Coder: k3b |
| 09:33.37 | tijn | or Nero for Linux |
| 09:33.39 | coder | No... it from KDE |
| 09:33.47 | tijn | k3b works on gnome |
| 09:33.52 | tijn | like a charm :) |
| 09:34.29 | coder | I.e. k3b or Nero for Linux? |
| 09:34.40 | coder | this all? |
| 09:35.07 | formorer | apt-cache search helbs |
| 09:35.09 | __zen__ | !info |
| 09:35.15 | formorer | there are several guis for burning |
| 09:36.15 | coder | thanks |
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| 09:44.31 | chump | thanks for all your help |
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| 09:50.54 | green-mouse | somebody know why 1.7Gz CPU always work only on 600Hz? I tryd to use frequency scaling but kernel say "CPU frequency scaling not supported"... I have MSI laptop and 2.6.15 kernel insalled... any ideas? |
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| 09:50.57 | davis | hello |
| 09:51.25 | davis | how can I make sure my users change their passwds to something meanigful? |
| 09:51.43 | davis | ie. they dont do passwd and then enter xyz for a passwd. |
| 09:51.57 | mrstocks | Hi, i installed the courier-imap and -pop, when i mail myself mrstocks@homedev.org i can see the mail when i type in the console "mail" but not when i login when telnet 127.0.0.1 imap2 .... BC SELECT inbox i see 0 exists |
| 09:51.58 | formorer | davis: libpam-cracklib - PAM module to enable cracklib support. |
| 09:52.16 | davis | just apt-get install it? |
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| 09:52.46 | formorer | davis: and read the docs about the parameters |
| 09:52.53 | davis | ok. thanks |
| 09:52.59 | formorer | no problem |
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| 09:58.41 | Studiosus | hi, all. sorry if i post offtopic question, but anyway, what is reliable way to block icq service for particular host by firewall rules? |
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| 10:01.54 | fireba11 | green-mouse 600 Hz ?? |
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| 10:02.58 | green-mouse | fireba11, yes... |
| 10:03.02 | petemc | Studiosus: generally speaking, you find out what ports an application or protocol uses and block those, or ever more popular, only allow a limited subset of ports |
| 10:03.06 | mo1991 | is there a way to edit the gnome menu's in debian sarge |
| 10:03.10 | mo1991 | ?? |
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| 10:03.37 | RvGaTe | is there something simular then macromedia flash for debian? |
| 10:03.39 | mo1991 | I mean debian etch gnome |
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| 10:03.59 | fireba11 | green-mouse: that's probably a display bug because i don't think there is any way to get a current PCU work at 600Hz at all |
| 10:04.02 | mo1991 | RvGaTe - look in non-free debian rerpository |
| 10:04.08 | mo1991 | flash is in there |
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| 10:04.41 | chump | what would typical line for dvdbackup be if te directory was /home/chump/dvd |
| 10:05.49 | green-mouse | fireba11, whis is true but i can`t get frequency scaling working... |
| 10:05.53 | efaistos | i have this for rsync --> rsync -av --delete --backup --backup-dir=$deltadir/"."$date2 $directory/* $deltadir/"."$full/ but it doesnt save in the backupdir |
| 10:06.03 | efaistos | could you give me an advice ? |
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| 10:11.12 | Teddy | hi all, can anyone help me installing alsa on linux sarge 3.1 with kernel 2.6 ? |
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| 10:11.24 | fm | efaistos, you may need to make sure $deltadir and $date2 actually holds some data |
| 10:11.27 | chump | what would typical line for dvdbackup be if te directory was /home/chump/dvd |
| 10:12.04 | setcode | hello |
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| 10:12.30 | _googler_ | hi |
| 10:12.43 | _googler_ | am i connected |
| 10:13.23 | Tallu | yeah |
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| 10:14.56 | shaibn | can someone tell me how i can update the dates on all the files in the directory to be the current date/time |
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| 10:15.27 | ktne | hello |
| 10:15.31 | efaistos | fm: they have some data ... but it doesnt duplicate the stuffs i have in $full directory |
| 10:15.42 | ktne | would it be possible to create a debian distro on top of XP kernel? |
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| 10:15.55 | setcode | is hercules Muse Lt soundcard works fine with linux ? |
| 10:16.10 | efaistos | fm: it puts only backup_dir is Delta/20060524 |
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| 10:16.17 | efaistos | and then nothing ... |
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| 10:16.20 | efaistos | no data there |
| 10:16.28 | xgoogler | any slackers here? |
| 10:16.45 | quitte | ktne only if the glibc was ported to it. but it should be possible to create a debian distro on top of cygwin. this aready has been tried. |
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| 10:17.31 | ktne | quitte: i see |
| 10:17.37 | chump | hey how can i dvdbackup an encrypted disk? |
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| 10:18.10 | sk4nK | Hey guys, just running through a server install following the howtoforge 'perfect setup'. all is going well, except when i'm up to `/etc/init.d/saslauthd start` i'm getting " |
| 10:18.29 | sk4nK | "Starting SASL Authentication Daemon: (failed)" |
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| 10:19.23 | freelancer | hi peoples |
| 10:19.39 | sk4nK | I'm not familiar with saslauthd and havent been able to find anything useful in the logs |
| 10:22.38 | cahoot | setcode: hercules muse 5.1 is reported to work fine with alsa |
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| 10:23.49 | doublehp_ | Where can I find a tutorial AND a driver for *software RAID.7 under Linux ? |
| 10:26.55 | quitte | doublehp_: what makes you think that exists? |
| 10:27.36 | cahoot | quitte: what makes you ask that? |
| 10:27.47 | quitte | cahoot: if it existed id like to know |
| 10:28.18 | doublehp_ | quitte: http://www.labo-linux.org/cours/module-1/chapitre-13-raid-et-lvm/ section 1.1.8 ... I know that page is not english, but title of section is quiet clear to translate ... and I have seen english pages about it on other sites. Up to 48 redundant drives |
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| 10:29.08 | sleon | why the fuck when i want to install ldap-account-manager apt-get wants to update my kernel ?! |
| 10:29.13 | doublehp_ | quitte: from memory : at most 48 drives, including up to 32 data and up to 12 parity drives (forgot about 4 extra ) |
| 10:29.27 | sleon | it installs banch of packages ... : tzdata initrd-tools libc6-dev libc6 libkrb53 apache-common kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 libapache2-mod-php4 php4-gd libapache-mod-php4 php4-common php4 |
| 10:29.31 | sleon | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:29.32 | sleon | rofl! |
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| 10:30.10 | ignotus | hello, which package contains wx_baseu_net-2.6? |
| 10:30.31 | cahoot | doublehp_: nice conclusion: le RAID 7 est très onéreux et difficile à mettre en place |
| 10:30.34 | sleon | debian rocks :) |
| 10:30.36 | sleon | haha |
| 10:30.41 | doublehp_ | quitte: seems like RAID.7 only on hardware controlelrs, and VERY expensive, when I do have enough drives and cables for software, and dont mind about throughtoutput due to cable limitations |
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| 10:30.56 | tarzeau | sleon: www.linuks.mine.nu/rockstone.jpg |
| 10:31.11 | doublehp_ | cahoot: I have 29 spare drives ! |
| 10:31.15 | tarzeau | ignotus: tried packages.debian.org yet? |
| 10:31.24 | ignotus | tarzeau: now trying |
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| 10:32.09 | quitte | doublehp_: yes. thats what i just found with my bad french in the text,too. |
| 10:32.10 | doublehp_ | cahoot: using them as RAID.7 would guve me a nice 20x9G = 180G with suport of 7 faulty disks ! |
| 10:32.16 | ignotus | You have searched for baseu in unstable, architecture i386. Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture. argh |
| 10:32.26 | quitte | doublehp_: what limit does raid5 or 6 have for the number of drives? |
| 10:32.37 | ignotus | that is my problem: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_baseu_net-2.6 |
| 10:32.51 | doublehp_ | quitte: suport only *one* faulty disk ! all data lost when a second drive dies ! |
| 10:33.07 | tarzeau | ignotus: get the source software and make a package |
| 10:33.33 | quitte | doublehp_: then use raid6 there you have two faulty disks. and if you add a few hot spares you should be quite save |
| 10:34.05 | cahoot | doublehp_: just tahe the author seems to point out that it's a onerous and difiicult matter to set up - one an understand your quest for a howto |
| 10:34.20 | doublehp_ | quitte: RAID.6 = only *two* faults ... man, I have 29 spare drives ! I can use 5 to 10 parity ones ! not going to configure 29 for RAID.10 |
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| 10:35.04 | quitte | doublehp_: pfft. then buy a controller or impement raid7 for the kernel. |
| 10:35.21 | fm | how do I list files inside a .deb file (equivalent of rpm -qpl) ? |
| 10:35.31 | tarzeau | fm: using ar |
| 10:35.31 | fm | or do I have to use ar? |
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| 10:35.38 | tarzeau | fm: man ar |
| 10:35.40 | doublehp_ | quitte: there is a difference between being given 29 disks, and being able to afford a RAID.7 HW controler |
| 10:35.54 | fm | hmm, no option in dpkg-query, right ? |
| 10:36.04 | tarzeau | fm: you'll find tarballs inside the deb, that you'll want to pipe to tar |
| 10:36.05 | doublehp_ | k, I give up SW RAID.7 |
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| 10:36.30 | fm | tarzeau, yeah, I know that way, wondering dpkg got any switch to ease things :) |
| 10:36.32 | liable | raid 7? |
| 10:36.33 | quitte | doublehp_: and why not use the capacity of say 20 disks have two that may die and 7 to take over if necessary? i dont see why you want raid7 |
| 10:36.39 | tarzeau | fm: what do you want to do really? |
| 10:36.53 | fm | I want to see list of files in a .deb file |
| 10:37.18 | quitte | liable: any number of parity drives. |
| 10:37.20 | tarzeau | fm: even if it's another file archives onlye? |
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| 10:37.33 | fm | yes |
| 10:37.36 | tarzeau | fm: ar t the.deb |
| 10:37.47 | doublehp_ | quitte: not using RAID.7 requires physical human interaction to swap disks when disks die; whereas RAID7 allows to automatically ... dont have to bother since you just loose spare parity :) |
| 10:37.48 | liable | fm: use mc or dpkg _l if installed |
| 10:38.00 | liable | -L |
| 10:38.09 | tarzeau | liable: he can also use ar |
| 10:38.17 | tarzeau | liable: if he read the manual page |
| 10:38.23 | liable | stipid stuck shift key |
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| 10:38.48 | fm | liable, -L won't work |
| 10:38.51 | quitte | doublehp_: uhm actually linux raid6 can be setup so that you just have to remove dead disks. or they stay where they are. you can add unused spares to be used when a disk dies before a disk dies |
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| 10:39.00 | fm | liable, its looking for installed package |
| 10:39.03 | quitte | doublehp_: same for all other levels but 0 |
| 10:39.14 | tarzeau | fm: so is ar t the.deb not good? |
| 10:39.22 | liable | tarzeau: sure he can |
| 10:39.29 | fm | tarzeau, ar can do it, I know, as I said I were looking for equivalent of rpm -qpl |
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| 10:39.37 | liable | fm: didnt i say "if installed" ?? |
| 10:39.42 | tarzeau | fm: how would i know what rpm -qpl does? |
| 10:39.51 | doublehp_ | quitte: 5 and 6 require human to use hands ! or reboot to alter conf when spare disks were already inserted unsused... RAID.7 let you dont mind at all. |
| 10:39.51 | fm | am not saying It should be like that, just wondering whether such option is available in dpkg |
| 10:39.52 | liable | dpkg-deb -x?? |
| 10:39.55 | tarzeau | fm: can you not just say what the fucking piece of shit rpm -qpl does? |
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| 10:40.02 | tarzeau | fm: this rpm shit is not debian on-topic |
| 10:40.13 | mrstocks | Hi, i installed the courier-imap and -pop, when i mail myself mrstocks@homedev.org i can see the mail when i type in the console "mail" but not when i login when telnet 127.0.0.1 imap2 .... BC SELECT inbox i see 0 exists |
| 10:40.13 | quitte | doublehp_: thats just not true. |
| 10:40.19 | tarzeau | liable: he can not say what he wants |
| 10:40.37 | doublehp_ | quitte: /msg ? |
| 10:40.41 | quitte | sure |
| 10:40.56 | marco13185 | how do I remove vmware once it is installed |
| 10:41.04 | fm | tarzeau, it lists files that wouldl be installed |
| 10:41.05 | Ketter | mrstocks: Maildir ? |
| 10:41.11 | liable | tarzeau: then we lart him into oblivion! :P |
| 10:41.21 | tarzeau | fm: fine, why can you not say that from the very start on? (don't answer) |
| 10:41.35 | Ketter | fm: would be installed ? |
| 10:41.40 | fm | tarzeau, I thought you are aware of that :P |
| 10:41.47 | tarzeau | fm: i'm not a mind reader |
| 10:41.51 | Ketter | fm: if you might have chosen that package ? |
| 10:41.57 | marco13185 | how do I remove vmware once it is installed |
| 10:42.00 | fm | Ketter, yes |
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| 10:42.23 | liable | fm: thats why i said mc, you can look in the .deb. wtf do you actually want?? |
| 10:42.24 | Ketter | fm: it might.. ah.. yes. |
| 10:42.37 | beardy | marco13185: Read the docs, and ask in the right place, this is not #vmware. |
| 10:43.04 | Ketter | liable: rmp -qlrbla and so forth.. |
| 10:43.14 | tarzeau | fm: ar x the.deb data.tar.gz ; tar tzf data.tar.gz ; rm data.tar.gz |
| 10:43.17 | fm | liable, ok, will try with mc |
| 10:43.28 | fm | nuff |
| 10:43.37 | liable | Ketter: can you give me that in debspeak? |
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| 10:43.45 | liable | hehe |
| 10:43.47 | fm | I only wanted to know dpkg can do that |
| 10:43.51 | fm | I got the answer |
| 10:43.53 | liable | that was funny no? |
| 10:44.00 | tarzeau | fm: can you not read man dpkg ? |
| 10:44.16 | Ketter | liable: nope, sorry.. wouldn't know what I just said.. but it sounds kinda fancy though :) |
| 10:44.17 | fm | no, little busy |
| 10:44.20 | tarzeau | fm: yes it can. -c |
| 10:44.26 | fm | that's why I asked here |
| 10:44.30 | tarzeau | you are not little busy, you are a moron |
| 10:44.36 | tarzeau | because you don't read the fucking manual |
| 10:44.42 | beardy | fm: To busy not to read before asking? Go away. |
| 10:44.45 | fm | tarzeau, may be |
| 10:44.46 | tarzeau | people busy don't waste time on irc |
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| 10:45.06 | beardy | -not |
| 10:45.23 | fm | tarzeau, thx, -c does the job |
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| 10:45.52 | fm | it was all am querying for... |
| 10:46.05 | liable | group hug |
| 10:46.17 | fm | instaed u kept saying use ar |
| 10:46.21 | fm | which I know how to use |
| 10:46.33 | fm | anyway thx all you shown interest to help me |
| 10:46.37 | liable | stop saying u |
| 10:46.53 | fm | ugh |
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| 10:46.58 | fm | u just said u :) |
| 10:47.37 | liable | the extra y and o doent really cost that much in terms of bandwidth or effort |
| 10:47.38 | marco13185 | there is only one way to spell "you" and that is "you". Same with other words. |
| 10:48.01 | marco13185 | IRC != AIM |
| 10:48.01 | fm | I chose to spell it as u |
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| 10:48.17 | liable | !beer marco13185 |
| 10:48.56 | liable | fm: then you chose to be larted when you say it here |
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| 10:49.32 | fm | liable, as u wish |
| 10:49.33 | beardy | fm: It makes you look silly, and it makes people not take you seriously. |
| 10:50.00 | beardy | fm: We aren' |
| 10:50.07 | beardy | bah |
| 10:50.23 | beardy | fm: We aren't telling you this to be mean, only to help you help yourself. |
| 10:50.25 | liable | fm: and that especially will make me not want to help. even though i do almost see the funny side of it.. |
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| 10:51.32 | liable | in fact, if you said that to someone else, i would prolly laugh |
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| 10:51.51 | liable | but i chose not to, cause i feel like being anal tonight |
| 10:52.23 | liable | :P\ |
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| 10:52.48 | liable | i dont know whether I am making fun of myself or not. |
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| 10:54.38 | liable | hlp me plz!! |
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| 10:54.50 | liable | lolz |
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| 10:55.33 | beardy | !smack liable |
| 10:55.54 | liable | thank you sir, may i have another? |
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| 10:56.23 | beardy | liable: No, one per customer. |
| 10:56.35 | liable | beardy: i have a voucher |
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| 10:57.09 | liable | ok. thats enough stupid shit from me. /me hands over to .. |
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| 10:58.15 | liable | the blues are kicking ass!! |
| 10:58.19 | liable | :( |
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| 10:59.17 | possie | while mounting my dvdrom drive i get the message: "mount: Not a directory |
| 10:59.17 | possie | " |
| 10:59.27 | possie | anyone might have a clue why i get this message? |
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| 10:59.52 | fm | how do you mount ? |
| 10:59.57 | cahoot | possie: might help if you offer the command you typed |
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| 11:00.46 | tarzeau | fm: RTFM |
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| 11:00.50 | SlammerXP | possie: at a guess, the mount point you've requested is not a directory |
| 11:00.58 | possie | cahoot, mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom |
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| 11:01.06 | possie | and /mnt/cdrom exists |
| 11:01.09 | fm | tarzeau, sorry, it was directed to possie |
| 11:01.15 | cahoot | possie: does /mnt/cdrom exist? |
| 11:01.20 | tarzeau | fm: please put a nickname before it then, i've noticed now |
| 11:01.22 | possie | yes |
| 11:01.22 | SlammerXP | possie: and is it a directory? |
| 11:01.24 | possie | yes |
| 11:01.27 | SlammerXP | sure? |
| 11:01.37 | fm | tarzeau, yea, missed it |
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| 11:01.40 | possie | 100% :-) |
| 11:01.53 | possie | Warning: defective CD-ROM. Enabling "cruft" mount option. |
| 11:01.56 | possie | i get in my syslog |
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| 11:02.25 | ico2 | morning |
| 11:02.26 | SlammerXP | could it be that you have a defective cd-rom? |
| 11:02.49 | ico2 | whre can i download the network install floppy? i cant find it on the site, but i see it mentioned often |
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| 11:03.20 | wombachi | On sarge, as php4-mysql depends on libmysqlclient12, doest it means that php scripts will break if upgrading from mysql-server to (new priviledge system of) mysql-server-4.1 ? |
| 11:03.23 | possie | SlammerXP, i'll try another one indeed |
| 11:03.26 | Mammut | hi everybody |
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| 11:03.53 | ico2 | morning Mammut |
| 11:03.56 | wombachi | (which depends on libmysqlclient14) |
| 11:04.01 | Mammut | i have a problem with the iptables |
| 11:04.11 | ico2 | Mammut: HAHAHAHAHA |
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| 11:04.19 | ico2 | Mammut: sorry, but that is funny |
| 11:04.20 | Mammut | I cannot get apt-get packet |
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| 11:04.34 | Mammut | ico2, ? why heheh |
| 11:04.36 | ico2 | Mammut: apt-get install packet? |
| 11:04.48 | ico2 | Mammut: say it aloud |
| 11:04.54 | Mammut | yes, how can i stop the iptables temperary |
| 11:05.03 | jishi1 | hi, i plugged my external HDD into my box but couldn't mount it |
| 11:05.12 | ico2 | Mammut: modprobe -r iptables ? |
| 11:05.26 | fm | Mammut, /etc/init.d/iptables stop ? |
| 11:05.30 | wombachi | Mammut /etc/init.d/iptables stop |
| 11:05.30 | jishi1 | i run cat /proc/scsi/scsi but there's no attached devices |
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| 11:05.45 | Mammut | fm, wombachi ok THX |
| 11:05.52 | ico2 | whre can i download the network install floppy? i cant find it on the site, but i see it mentioned often |
| 11:06.00 | liable | ico2: if you dont know the answer dont be stupid |
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| 11:06.14 | jishi1 | there're also no sda device in /dev |
| 11:06.16 | liable | !sarge floppies |
| 11:06.16 | dpkg | sarge floppies is probably http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitute your arch for i386 |
| 11:06.40 | jishi1 | how can i get my external usb storage running |
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| 11:07.04 | ico2 | cheers liable |
| 11:07.07 | wombachi | jishi1 modprobe usb-storage, look in /var/log/syslog if it's detected. |
| 11:07.09 | liable | Mammut: unless you have specifically set iptables rules, the theres no need to blame firewall shits |
| 11:07.12 | cahoot | jishi1: compiled your own kernel? |
| 11:07.33 | iturk | there is some process that is pushing by my processor how can i know which one is it using >ps ?? |
| 11:07.33 | jishi1 | i had modprobed usb-storage |
| 11:07.50 | Mammut | liable, heh |
| 11:07.51 | liable | iturk: top? |
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| 11:08.10 | wombachi | jishi1 modprobe ehci_hcd too if you want usb 2.0 (1 is too sloooow) |
| 11:08.37 | liable | !usb storage |
| 11:08.37 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 11:08.57 | iturk | liable: thanks |
| 11:09.20 | jishi1 | syslog says that it initialized my usb-storage , kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered. |
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| 11:10.02 | liable | jishi1: paste the dmesg bits for it. what device are you trying to get working? |
| 11:10.04 | iturk | liable: it was by web browser |
| 11:10.05 | cahoot | jishi1: sd_mod loaded? |
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| 11:10.41 | liable | iturk: ah. firefox? it seems to eat memory here on occasions |
| 11:10.42 | wombachi | jishi1 No "device found" nor "SCSI device sda" or something? |
| 11:11.05 | iturk | liable: its Epiphany |
| 11:11.13 | redloff_ | hi, can I somehow automatically make all neccessary devices in /dev/ after debootstrap? |
| 11:11.27 | redloff_ | or do I have to make them all with mkdev? |
| 11:11.45 | iturk | liable: closing all windows was not enough i had to close it completely |
| 11:11.46 | jishi1 | dmesg says something about that |
| 11:11.47 | jishi1 | Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... |
| 11:11.47 | jishi1 | usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage |
| 11:11.47 | jishi1 | USB Mass Storage support registered. |
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| 11:11.51 | liable | epiphany is a web browser? |
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| 11:12.22 | iturk | liable: its a gnome web browser based in mozilla |
| 11:12.51 | wombachi | redloff_ on recent 2.6 kernel, udev does that automatically |
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| 11:13.42 | redloff_ | wombachi, what if I don't want udev? |
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| 11:13.54 | liable | iturk: oh. guess that shows i know nothing about gnome. |
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| 11:14.15 | liable | redloff_: you must have udev! |
| 11:14.18 | iturk | liable: i use fluxbox i dont know either |
| 11:14.43 | wombachi | redloff_ stay with older kernels (perhaps even 2.4 on prod servers) |
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| 11:14.47 | jishi1 | sorry, got kick. the sd_mod is also loaded |
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| 11:15.03 | redloff_ | liable, why? |
| 11:15.19 | liable | redloff_: no idea. just shitting you :) |
| 11:15.38 | Talnakh | hi everyone. i want to deploy an application which would test how long it takes for a web page to load at different times. e.g. at noon , evening, night. could someone suggest such an application for linux? |
| 11:15.52 | liable | i better give in before i get told off by an op |
| 11:16.22 | redloff_ | ... |
| 11:16.32 | liable | Talnakh: wget? |
| 11:17.09 | redloff_ | ./MAKEDEV generic |
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| 11:17.40 | Talnakh | liable, ha ha. not sucha bad idea, actually. but i would love something that can make graphs and other nice stuff |
| 11:17.56 | liable | redloff_: yes, if you dont want udev, and decfs is deprecated, you can fo with standard dev |
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| 11:18.40 | liable | Talnakh: dont know of an app that can do that. but let us know if you find one. |
| 11:18.43 | Mammut | if I install mdadm on my running server, is this a problem for the existingand running RAID??? |
| 11:18.51 | Mammut | @all |
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| 11:19.46 | wombachi | Talnakh use wget+bash. Or use "ab" on the apache server for benchmarks |
| 11:19.53 | liable | omg, i just read my last responses, my typing is about as bad as it gets. time for bed |
| 11:19.54 | jishi1 | hello, after did all the things you suggested, the usb-storage is still not recognized |
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| 11:21.28 | wombachi | jishi1 do you see ehci_hcd, sd_mod, usbcore, scsi_mod with "lsmod|grep -E 'hc|sd'" ? |
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| 11:28.10 | liable | anyone tried the gui bit in the etch installer?? |
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| 11:32.29 | liable | hola |
| 11:32.43 | jlaw | hoihoi |
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| 11:34.12 | liable | !boring |
| 11:34.12 | dpkg | yes, you are liable |
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| 11:34.55 | jlaw | liable ... we missed a memorable moment! |
| 11:35.28 | jlaw | liable: one our and 20 minutes ago you'd been registered for 1 year, one week, one day, one hour and one minute^^ |
| 11:36.09 | liable | jlaw: omg really? |
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| 11:36.22 | jlaw | liable, yes, really |
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| 11:37.19 | liable | lols and lollerskates |
| 11:37.26 | jlaw | ^^ |
| 11:37.34 | Tidus | roflcopters and lollerskates |
| 11:38.01 | tijn | ... |
| 11:38.20 | RvGaTe | nerds... |
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| 11:38.36 | liable | heh, exactly! |
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| 11:39.27 | liable | though i have never fancied myself as a nerd, but i am not really all that bothered by others opinions. |
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| 11:41.02 | RvGaTe | believe me, if everyone you come across keeps yelling "nerd" at you, you are going to be bothered :) |
| 11:41.05 | RvGaTe | at least i would |
| 11:41.37 | tralala | bah, i'd just use my /ignore |
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| 11:44.01 | liable | RvGaTe: funnily, no one has ever called me that. and anyone that would would be a very old friend and i would simply call them a cunt in reply. :P |
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| 11:44.36 | jlaw | yeah, i was wondering how to adapt /ignore to the real life - wise as i am i found a solution |
| 11:44.51 | RvGaTe | that is? |
| 11:44.53 | jlaw | i took a baseball bat and wrote "/ignore" on it ... works well |
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| 11:45.01 | RvGaTe | :) |
| 11:46.42 | tralala | hehe |
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| 11:47.20 | tralala | there is a danger though - you might end up in a cell with a 'kline' written on it |
| 11:47.46 | RvGaTe | or /disconnect on your stone |
| 11:48.06 | liable | i would think a "bubba" bat would be the worst |
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| 11:49.22 | tralala | dpkg: what is bubba? |
| 11:49.23 | dpkg | tralala: I think you lost me on that one |
| 11:49.48 | tralala | heh, I can see why |
| 11:49.56 | mosty | i'm looking for a way to install debian on an encrypted filesystem on top of software raid1. i found the partman-crypto version of the debian installer, but it doesn't seem to allow both raid and encryption simultaneously, is there a way around this limitation? |
| 11:50.01 | liable | !bubba |
| 11:50.06 | liable | hrm |
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| 11:50.42 | RvGaTe | !enterain me |
| 11:51.07 | RvGaTe | !entertain me |
| 11:51.07 | dpkg | "Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. The first atom turns to the second and says "I think I'm missing an electron", the second askes "Are you sure?" The first replies "Yeah, I'm positive" |
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| 11:52.02 | fm | askes? |
| 11:52.06 | fm | or asks? |
| 11:52.10 | mentor | asks |
| 11:52.15 | fm | hmm |
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| 11:52.27 | mentor | dpkg literal: entertain me |
| 11:52.42 | fm | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.42 | dpkg | "Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. The first atom turns to the second and says "I think I'm missing an electron", the second askes "Are you sure?" The first replies "Yeah, I'm positive" |
| 11:52.51 | mentor | dpkg literal: cmd: entertain me |
| 11:52.53 | fm | grr |
| 11:52.58 | fm | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.58 | dpkg | "Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar. The first atom turns to the second and says "I think I'm missing an electron", the second askes "Are you sure?" The first replies "Yeah, I'm positive" |
| 11:53.09 | mentor | dpkg entertain me =~ s/askes/asks/ |
| 11:53.09 | dpkg | mentor: OK |
| 11:53.11 | fm | only this fscking joke |
| 11:53.17 | tralala | hey, it's always the same, don't you get it? |
| 11:53.22 | jlaw | !magic smoke |
| 11:53.22 | dpkg | Did you know computers run on smoke? You can tell because if the smoke escapes, they stop working. |
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| 11:53.39 | fm | tralala, I only came to know moment ago |
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| 11:53.56 | nicoco | PLEASE help me set up my dual head display on debian sid i've been working on it for one week without success |
| 11:54.30 | christor | is there something to manage(soft installed, configuration, push command) on several station debian? I would like to know if it exist a soft server on debain which allow to manage severals debian workstation? |
| 11:54.34 | cire | when trying to activate suspend to disk, kpowersave tells me, "Swap partition '' is not available". So, where do I have to set the right partition? |
| 11:54.37 | mentor | As much as that sounds more fun than taking my exam.... |
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| 11:54.50 | sep | nicoco, the very very minimum requiered info is what gfx card you run, and what X driver you run. |
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| 11:55.11 | tralala | christor: what do you mean by manage? |
| 11:56.32 | jlaw | christor: take putty and you can manage all machines from one !-) |
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| 11:56.48 | liable | cire: its a kernel option at boot.. something like .. suspend=swap:/dev/foo |
| 11:56.57 | birdcage | hi all! |
| 11:56.57 | tralala | cire: usually you create the swap partition during the installation |
| 11:57.29 | tralala | liable: wake up! |
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| 11:57.41 | birdcage | can someone tell me where to find a hardware compatibility-chart for the latest linux kernel/Debian version |
| 11:57.43 | xbit` | hi |
| 11:57.47 | tralala | it's the suspending that's not working not the recovery |
| 11:57.54 | liable | cire: that may be way wrong. i use suspend2 and thats probably not even the option i use for that, but i am too lazy to check. so, hit google and you will get the right option |
| 11:58.05 | mosty | birdcage, don't think there is one |
| 11:58.16 | xbit` | is there a kernel in woody with hfsc support? |
| 11:58.26 | dli | birdcage, I think all known ones are outdated :) |
| 11:58.30 | quitte | woody? |
| 11:58.41 | liable | !wake up liable |
| 11:58.43 | tralala | birdcage: You can't imagine how much I miss such a chart. |
| 11:58.48 | liable | bah |
| 11:58.49 | birdcage | mosty: sad :( do you know if INtel ICH6-R SATA Controller is supported? |
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| 11:58.53 | liable | stupid |
| 11:58.56 | tralala | !wakeup liable |
| 11:59.05 | liable | hehe |
| 11:59.10 | dli | birdcage, for out dated one: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/ |
| 11:59.10 | tralala | ;) |
| 11:59.11 | mosty | birdcage, i think most sata controllers should work without trouble |
| 11:59.11 | liable | i like that one |
| 11:59.23 | brownie17 | can anyone tell me what the hell the libatk-bridge module is and why i get like one zillion errors telling me it's not installed? |
| 11:59.29 | liable | mosty: depends how old it is of coure |
| 11:59.34 | liable | course |
| 11:59.39 | dli | birdcage, intel hardwares are usually well supported with GPLed drivers |
| 11:59.55 | brownie17 | who knows how i can check the status of my graphics drivers? |
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| 12:00.07 | birdcage | mosty,dli,tralala: thanks a lot :) |
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| 12:01.33 | liable | birdcage: http://linux-ata.org/sata-status.html#open_chipsets |
| 12:01.44 | fm | christor, apt-cache show fai |
| 12:02.06 | brownie17 | who knows any single way i can mount a usb digital camera and get photos off it. please help |
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| 12:02.24 | nicoco | excuse me (girlfriend on the phone...). |
| 12:02.29 | birdcage | liable: that rules :) Thank yo! |
| 12:02.31 | nicoco | so ! i use xorg 7 |
| 12:03.00 | dli | brownie17, try gphoto2 , but you need modules: sd_mod , sg , [euo]hci_hcd , usb_storage |
| 12:03.15 | nicoco | i have an ATI Radeon 9250 AGP and an old Matrox Mystique |
| 12:03.15 | liable | birdcage: depends. check dmesg when you plug it in. you should be able to just mount it as an ordinary device, or you may need gphoto2 |
| 12:03.24 | liable | birdcage: you're welcome |
| 12:03.35 | brownie17 | dli, i don't know how to install modules, does this require a kernel re-compile? |
| 12:03.41 | liable | brownie17: ^^ see my previous comment |
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| 12:04.00 | cire | liable: thank you, I'll try this! |
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| 12:04.10 | dli | brownie17, " modprobe sd-mod ", for example |
| 12:04.10 | brownie17 | liable, to mount it as an ordinary device, what would the command be? |
| 12:04.35 | nicoco | if I choose the AGP card as principal device, my monitor connected to the matrox shows the wakeup msg and the other one is black |
| 12:04.44 | dli | brownie17, you may also try, " modconf " |
| 12:04.53 | tralala | brownie17: unless you have made the mistake to run a self compiled kernel, you don't need to recompile in order to use modules. Just modprobe <modulename>. Even this is rearly necessary. |
| 12:04.53 | liable | brownie17: well, no point tryin it untill you know it works. check dmesg after you plug it in |
| 12:05.09 | nicoco | if I choose the PCI as first device, X starts on this card and the other one only shows its wakeup msg |
| 12:05.13 | liable | !usb storage |
| 12:05.14 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 12:05.23 | liable | brownie17: ^^ |
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| 12:05.59 | brownie17 | dli, /msg dpkg usb storage |
| 12:06.15 | nicoco | please help me !! i'm about to have a nervous breakdown !! |
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| 12:06.28 | cahoot | brownie17: not all cameras (like canons) are mountable as usb devices - gphoto2 can access them via ptp |
| 12:06.33 | liable | !comfort nicoco |
| 12:06.33 | dpkg | There, there, nicoco. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 12:06.46 | tralala | he |
| 12:06.46 | nicoco | thanks ;) |
| 12:06.48 | tralala | hehe |
| 12:06.50 | _ender_ | I'm trying to mount a samba share as read-write but it always seems to be read-only. While doing the same command from and osx server does it in read-write. Am I missing something? |
| 12:07.02 | _ender_ | same credentials |
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| 12:07.43 | Gnea | _ender_: does the samba user or authenticated user have write permission on the unix host? |
| 12:07.44 | _ender_ | tried to force mount -w -o rw |
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| 12:08.11 | Gnea | no, on the server |
| 12:08.16 | _ender_ | Gnea: yeah, the host is a windoze machine and like I said, on another server it works with the same username/password combi. |
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| 12:08.48 | Gnea | _ender_: you may have to check advanced options and #samba |
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| 12:09.07 | _ender_ | Gnea: ok, have a look there |
| 12:10.03 | christor | jlaw: From debian to debian I don t need putty :s , But I need something to manage several computer , like when I want to change the nfs server from all machine, I don t want to connect machine one by one to change manually the nfs server for ex |
| 12:10.42 | nicoco | and so this is it ? |
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| 12:11.16 | nicoco | no help ... alone in the desert ... crying desperately |
| 12:11.19 | jlaw | christor, i think i knew what you were aiming at, it was just a joke^^ |
| 12:11.55 | tralala | christor: I can see two options - lessdisks (diskless terminals booted over the network) or a script that would run a given command via ssh for all tha machines. |
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| 12:12.03 | chbug | hi! what's the canonical way to install a non-packaged truetype font on debian? |
| 12:12.16 | jlaw | christor, i could tell you how to achieve it in w2k ^^ |
| 12:12.25 | brownie17 | liable, dli, once i've got those modules, should the drive appear automatically, or should i have to restart or something? |
| 12:12.56 | cahoot | chbug: you *should* be able to just put them in ~/.fonts |
| 12:13.13 | nicoco | no xinerama geek here ? |
| 12:13.13 | tralala | christor: oh wait! I think ldap could take care of it as well. |
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| 12:13.57 | chbug | cahoot: that's easier than what I feared :-) |
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| 12:14.07 | tralala | brownie17: you need to restart debian *only* when you install a new kernel and want to use it |
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| 12:14.20 | cahoot | chbug: no guarantees |
| 12:14.23 | dli | brownie17, I am sure you don't have to restart :) |
| 12:14.27 | brownie17 | tralala, i wasn't sure if new modules counted. |
| 12:14.35 | liable | brownie17: google the camrea. i have a feeling you need gphoto2 |
| 12:14.52 | liable | camera.. |
| 12:14.56 | brownie17 | liable, i managed to get gphoto2 to download them, but is there a graphical way to search it? |
| 12:15.05 | nicoco | why is nobody answering meee ???????? |
| 12:15.15 | nicoco | i've explained my problem !! |
| 12:15.15 | tralala | brownie17: they are not new, they have always been there. And even when you compile new modules you still don't need to restart. |
| 12:15.19 | cahoot | brownie17: digikam |
| 12:15.27 | abyss | lo folks, somebody can help me to install a printer on debian stable? The problem is that the printer is a netwrok shared printer which is connected on usb over a winxp machine |
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| 12:15.32 | chbug | cahoot, it works, at least with the applications I needed. tx |
| 12:15.43 | liable | nicoco: maybe no one knows? we arent the magical bullet |
| 12:16.12 | nicoco | ok thx anyway |
| 12:16.14 | abyss | liable : nice phrase :) |
| 12:16.33 | fm | abyss, use samba |
| 12:16.36 | christor | tralala: oh ldap work fo that ? because currently I use a NFS / NIS system ( I know it s old :P) |
| 12:17.01 | brownie17 | nicoco, try rephgrasing the question. try googling it |
| 12:17.08 | abyss | exists a graphical configuration tool for that? |
| 12:17.24 | tralala | christor: I'm not sure, you'll have to check. |
| 12:17.46 | nicoco | brownie17 : i've been on it for one week and googled every keyword combination I could imagine |
| 12:17.46 | fm | abyss, swat |
| 12:17.52 | nicoco | so let's try again |
| 12:18.02 | fm | abyss, web based tool |
| 12:18.13 | brownie17 | nicoco, bugger. what is the problem, (not that i could hepl, but i'm interested) |
| 12:18.26 | abyss | is it difficult to get the printer work on this debian machince? |
| 12:18.40 | christor | tralala: ok thx |
| 12:18.43 | fm | abyss, and gnome got some tools but never used, I usually edit config file |
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| 12:18.44 | brownie17 | abyss, sometimes you get lucky and it's a two minute job, sometimes it's a two hour job. |
| 12:19.00 | fm | abyss, you may need to read samba howto, then its easy to setup :) |
| 12:19.20 | abyss | in both cases it were okay but it should work for tommorow :) |
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| 12:19.40 | abyss | ok what packages i need exactly? |
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| 12:20.09 | fm | samba-server |
| 12:20.14 | brownie17 | abyss, i somehow managed to set up a scanner, printer and tv tuner card with IR control in the last week! |
| 12:20.29 | nicoco | I'm under xorg. I have an ATI Radeon 9250 AGP and an oooold Matrox Mystique PCI. X crashes when I try to use them both, showing a black screen for the ATI and the wakeup msg (something like (c) Matrox accelerated graphics.......) on the matrox card. If I choose PCI as the first display device (in my bios), X startx but only on this card, the ATI showing its own wakeup message |
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| 12:20.42 | fm | that's a remakable acheivement brownie17 :) |
| 12:20.44 | doojin | hello guys |
| 12:20.57 | doojin | Does the hd-media(usb memory stick) installer support nforce sata2? |
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| 12:21.21 | dli | brownie17, maybe, you can write a wiki :) |
| 12:21.26 | doojin | The hd-media debian installer didn't recognize my harddisk |
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| 12:21.44 | doojin | my harddisk is sata2 |
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| 12:22.02 | bwbettin | Does interchanging the use of Aptitude and Synaptic package managers risk breaking my system? |
| 12:22.11 | doojin | Anybody help |
| 12:22.15 | sonasks | i`m using "split" command to split tar.gz backups, it give files backup.tar.gz.aa, backup.tar.gz.ab etc - how to join them together ??? |
| 12:22.23 | dli | doojin, you can put an installation cd on usb |
| 12:22.28 | tarzeau | sonasks: cat whatever > bigthing |
| 12:22.30 | r_marvin | how can i make dpkg update all copies of a certain binary after an upgrade? (i need to have different-owner copies of php4-cgi for suexec) |
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| 12:23.21 | doojin | dli : does it work? |
| 12:23.22 | onetinsoldier | bwbettin: nope |
| 12:23.22 | brownie17 | dli, fm, are you being sarcastic? :( i feel like a retard now. i seemed to hit troubles at every corner |
| 12:23.37 | sonasks | you got to be kidding me - cat can do it ??? |
| 12:23.47 | tarzeau | sonasks: sure |
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| 12:23.51 | sonasks | join 5 4.4 GB files of splitted archives into one ? |
| 12:24.02 | jharrisonwk | you guys have not moved yet? |
| 12:24.05 | tarzeau | sonasks: that's how i do with the freebsd manual pages |
| 12:24.05 | dli | doojin, it's covered by debian installation doc |
| 12:24.07 | nicoco | seems like i'ml talking to a wall... |
| 12:24.13 | doojin | dli : ok |
| 12:24.20 | blondie | sonasks: cat is short for concatenate, so yes that's the right program |
| 12:24.20 | bwbettin | onetinsoldier, thanks |
| 12:24.22 | tarzeau | sonasks: i've had 12 GB files here, so what? |
| 12:24.37 | tarzeau | sonasks: the shell expands filenames alphabetically |
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| 12:24.51 | tarzeau | sonasks: unless you don't fuck up the quoting (none) you'll be fine |
| 12:24.56 | kieren | sonasks: man tar. -A = cat archives |
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| 12:25.28 | tarzeau | kieren: but that's not with split'ted archives, is it? |
| 12:25.40 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: hi |
| 12:25.51 | tarzeau | jharrisonwk: hi, found a sponsor yet? |
| 12:25.54 | jlaw | who was asking for the centralized management? |
| 12:25.57 | brownie17 | dli, when i was installing the camera, dpkg said when it's working it should show up in /dev/sda or something, but there's nothing of the sort and gphoto2 can see it and get stuff off it easily |
| 12:26.06 | dli | doojin, http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en |
| 12:26.18 | kieren | tarzeau: no, separate .tar's |
| 12:26.28 | fm | jlaw, do not remember, but if you have a suggestion I would like to know |
| 12:26.29 | doojin | dli : Are you an american? |
| 12:26.30 | nicoco | why is this world so cruel ? |
| 12:26.38 | tarzeau | kieren: not if he uses split |
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| 12:26.48 | dli | brownie17, "dmesg" , or " sg_map " should show the /dev/sd? part |
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| 12:26.57 | dli | doojin, no, I'm Chinese |
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| 12:26.58 | tarzeau | nicoco: why should it not be? with what? |
| 12:27.01 | jlaw | christor was it |
| 12:27.02 | kieren | tarzeau: yes true, i should read the question :) |
| 12:27.22 | jlaw | christor? still here? |
| 12:27.24 | tarzeau | kieren: but of course he could get rid of the split use and save quite some time and disk space |
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| 12:27.31 | abyss | whats wrong with that : smbspool smb://micha@webconsult/versatel01/hpoffice.2 |
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| 12:27.37 | tarzeau | kieren: by using tar in a way creating not one large but whatever he gets after the split |
| 12:27.37 | nicoco | no one has the slightest idea of what I should try ?? |
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| 12:27.56 | TraceGreen | Hello, I have a usb camera, what tools can help me to see my own video? |
| 12:27.58 | doojin | dli : do you like china? |
| 12:28.07 | jlaw | christor: if you read this, this may help you: http://www.securecentral.com/products/patchquest/ |
| 12:28.14 | tarzeau | nicoco: www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ |
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| 12:28.28 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: which usb cam do you have? |
| 12:28.40 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: which driver? which kernel? |
| 12:28.43 | dli | doojin, is that a debian question ? |
| 12:28.49 | doojin | dli : no |
| 12:29.01 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, Debian linux 2.6.7-1-686 |
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| 12:29.14 | blondie | TraceGreen: why such an old kernel? |
| 12:29.15 | doojin | It's weird, here are many helpers |
| 12:29.20 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, just a video camera used for chat |
| 12:29.24 | TraceGreen | blondie, old? |
| 12:29.26 | nicoco | well good bye |
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| 12:29.31 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: mine doesn't seem to work with 2.6. i've got the qc-* one |
| 12:29.35 | blondie | TraceGreen: 2.6.7 is oooooold |
| 12:29.42 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: does it work with windows xp? |
| 12:29.47 | tarzeau | blondie: indeed |
| 12:29.47 | jlaw | blondie, "that old" i bet there are people hanging around here with 2.4.x |
| 12:29.48 | doojin | In irc.hanirc.org #debian, there is no voluntary helper |
| 12:29.51 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, yeah |
| 12:29.57 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: i'd use windows xp :) |
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| 12:30.04 | TraceGreen | tarzeau, oh...... |
| 12:30.11 | doojin | Does any of you get paid for technical help? |
| 12:30.16 | tarzeau | TraceGreen: you can also use itunes then |
| 12:30.29 | streuner | no |
| 12:30.29 | tarzeau | doojin: no |
| 12:30.29 | Ronin | doojin: everyday at work but no not here |
| 12:30.30 | doojin | technical help in here |
| 12:30.30 | tarzeau | doojin: well yes, but not by people in here |
| 12:30.30 | streuner | !ask |
| 12:30.30 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 12:33.21 | dli | doojin, if you want to pay |
| 12:33.22 | blondie | jlaw: many 2.4 kernels are newer than 2.6.7 |
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| 12:33.22 | jlaw | doojin: may grandma gives me mony for fixing pc problems^^ |
| 12:33.22 | tarzeau | doojin: how much do you want to pay? |
| 12:33.22 | faber3 | morning, good |
| 12:33.23 | jlaw | -a |
| 12:33.23 | tarzeau | jlaw: i only get lemon cakes |
| 12:33.23 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they could try to help get a gamepad working? |
| 12:33.23 | doojin | tarzeau : I think somebody else pays |
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| 12:33.24 | doojin | tarzeau : Who do you work for? |
| 12:33.24 | tarzeau | doojin: how does it matter? |
| 12:33.24 | doojin | tarzeau : I'm curious |
| 12:33.25 | jlaw | blondie, whatever ... i'm happy with 2.6.16.16^^ |
| 12:33.25 | faber3 | i have a decision to make: 3ware hardware raid controller, or software raid. i need raid 1, the server is going to do imap/mail, some vpn and disk sharing. what is your advise? |
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| 12:33.25 | tarzeau | doojin: and i'll not tell |
| 12:33.26 | doojin | tarzeau : Is it a person or a company? |
| 12:33.27 | tarzeau | doojin: neither |
| 12:33.27 | dli | faber3, I would go hardware, if I can afford |
| 12:33.27 | doojin | tzrzeau : then you don't get paid |
| 12:33.28 | jlaw | faber3: software raids are slow themselves and slow down the system |
| 12:33.28 | FlopsyPete | the 'gnome' meta-package has gone from Testing (again), is it likely to return? |
| 12:33.28 | tarzeau | doojin: yes i do |
| 12:33.28 | Supaplex | faber3: I advise you share and send me a 3ware controller to. ;) hehe |
| 12:33.29 | tarzeau | doojin: do you think only persons or companies can pay? |
| 12:33.30 | tarzeau | FlopsyPete: who cares? |
| 12:33.30 | doojin | tarzeau : That's all I know |
| 12:33.30 | vinboy | is it possible to recompile X from source to get better performance? |
| 12:33.31 | Ronin | doojin: do you mean on here on irc or in the real world? |
| 12:33.31 | Supaplex | !gentoosmite vinboy |
| 12:33.32 | vinboy | lol |
| 12:33.32 | vinboy | wat was tat? |
| 12:33.32 | doojin | Tonin : tarzeau says he gets paid for answering questions in here. |
| 12:33.33 | FlopsyPete | tarzeau: its what I use to install gnome, I've incorporated it into a script that gets used on a lot of machines |
| 12:33.35 | tarzeau | doojin: no i didn't say that |
| 12:33.35 | dli | vinboy, yes, you can build deb from source, but there's no point |
| 12:33.45 | tarzeau | doojin: i said i get paid for technical help. but no in here |
| 12:33.51 | Supaplex | vinboy: you're free to try, but it's in the diminishing returns department. |
| 12:33.56 | doojin | tarzeau : what kind of technical help? |
| 12:33.56 | tarzeau | FlopsyPete: nice, then don't use testing |
| 12:34.02 | vinboy | dli: oh ok, i was curious, bcoz some reports say compile from source can run faster (gentoo) |
| 12:34.11 | doojin | what I mean is debian technical help in here. |
| 12:34.16 | tarzeau | doojin: debian related help also, but more generally computer help (software as well as hardware) |
| 12:34.22 | faber3 | jlaw: i thought linux can do raid well |
| 12:34.30 | tarzeau | doojin: well who'd ask for help here if he pays? |
| 12:34.31 | dli | vinboy, that's a gentoo question, not debian :) |
| 12:34.39 | vinboy | :) |
| 12:34.40 | doojin | tarzeau : What pays you? |
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| 12:34.49 | jlaw | fabre3: basically ... but it's pure software raid |
| 12:35.01 | doojin | tarzeau : an artificial intelligence pays you? |
| 12:35.11 | FlopsyPete | tarzeau: its a really important package, being as it installs a thorough Gnome system, it was in Sarge, I was just asking why it had suddenly disappeared |
| 12:35.13 | jlaw | fabre3: i would not want my os to take care about raid stuff |
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| 12:35.23 | Ronin | doojin: why do you care so much? |
| 12:35.27 | faber3 | jlaw: mmhhh... the dealer wants to also sell me a battery pack for the controller, making it even more expensive |
| 12:35.48 | doojin | Ronin : I want to solve the mistery |
| 12:35.57 | streuner | Ronin: he cannot believe that there are some guys who help for nothing ;-) |
| 12:36.05 | Supaplex | faber3: how many clinets do you expect to support on the system? |
| 12:36.17 | tarzeau | doojin: i chose to not tell you |
| 12:36.21 | faber3 | Supaplex: well, may be 20 |
| 12:36.23 | doojin | Ronin : tarzeau gets paid for technical help. and he said he didn't get paid from a person or a company. |
| 12:36.23 | Ronin | streuner: ahhh i see |
| 12:36.34 | doojin | Ronin : then what pays him? |
| 12:36.37 | tarzeau | FlopsyPete: maybe because it broke. it'll probably get fixed sometime |
| 12:36.39 | jlaw | faber3: you should have a close look at what they want to sell you ... there are three types of controller: software, hardware using your cpu and hardware with own cpu |
| 12:36.47 | Ronin | doojin: so what, its not a big deal id say just let it go |
| 12:36.52 | faber3 | has anyone had a bad experience with software raid 1 (i had with hardware raid, twice) |
| 12:37.09 | doojin | Ronin : In fact, I research into social mechanisms, so I am curious |
| 12:37.21 | Ronin | doojin: obsessive is more like it |
| 12:37.24 | jlaw | faber3: last one is the most expensive but the only one not slowing down your system ... they start at about 170 euro |
| 12:37.26 | Supaplex | faber3: 3ware isn't the only hardware raid vendor (with linux support). |
| 12:37.50 | faber3 | Supaplex: what do i need the linux support for? |
| 12:37.51 | doojin | Ronin : yes I research obsessively |
| 12:38.05 | tarzeau | faber3: we've also got icp vortex ones |
| 12:38.07 | Supaplex | faber3: uhm, so it'll be supported by linux. |
| 12:38.15 | doojin | Ronin : because I need something desperately. |
| 12:38.19 | faber3 | jlaw: the dealer only offers 3ware or areca (but areca is much more expensive) |
| 12:38.39 | Supaplex | faber3: I haven't looked at adaptec sata raid controllers, I'm sure there's others you can poke at out there. |
| 12:38.43 | Ronin | doojin: did you try just asking your question/explaiing the problem |
| 12:38.53 | tarzeau | can i setup an x client to press enter into another x client, once every second? |
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| 12:39.11 | tarzeau | doojin: don't msg me. no i will not tell you, especially not in a query |
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| 12:39.17 | jlaw | faber3: i don't have every product in mind (even one!-) - but have a look for it is at least a hardware controller and in best and appreciated case has it's own cpu |
| 12:39.25 | Supaplex | tarzeau: like with perl? |
| 12:39.26 | faber3 | SupapSupaplex: ah, you need the driver for the card in order to get the sata or scsi lun, now i understand |
| 12:39.31 | doojin | tarzeau : what's wrong? |
| 12:39.40 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they might be able to help get a gamepad controller working? |
| 12:39.43 | tarzeau | put your real name into your whois, doojin . you are not rambo |
| 12:39.44 | tarzeau | 14:39 CTCP VERSION reply from doojin: mIRC v6.17 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 12:39.47 | streuner | doojin: we don't like /msg very much |
| 12:39.50 | tarzeau | and a person that's using mirc.. oh well |
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| 12:39.58 | doojin | tarzeau : my real name is doojin |
| 12:40.07 | tarzeau | Supaplex: i don't care with what. you know how? |
| 12:40.09 | doojin | tarzeau : and I want to become a rambo. |
| 12:40.10 | streuner | doojin: if you have a question ask here, if you want query someone ask before you do |
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| 12:40.18 | Ronin | onetinsoldier: not me, but you know the drill :) |
| 12:40.18 | tarzeau | doojin: a/s/l? |
| 12:40.21 | sep | faber3, i realy like the 3ware controllers and intel's gdth controllers. they are good. software raid is also both fast and good, but you can't hotswap, and it's more work then hardware. also if uptime is important you can risk the system dying if a drive fail. |
| 12:40.27 | Supaplex | tarzeau: #perl |
| 12:40.30 | doojin | tarzeau : what is asl? |
| 12:40.33 | Ronin | ok i see where doojin is headed |
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| 12:40.41 | Eulex | &join #xgl |
| 12:40.45 | tarzeau | Supaplex: i don't care if it's perl or not. i have that problem and i doubt #perl can help me |
| 12:40.46 | sep | i use both hardware and software raid depending on importance and budget. i never ever use fakeraid. |
| 12:40.50 | doojin | Ronin : where? |
| 12:40.52 | tarzeau | doojin: age, sex and location |
| 12:40.57 | Supaplex | tarzeau: there's some X11 test harnes module, but I don't recall which one it is. |
| 12:41.02 | doojin | tarzeau : 18, male, korea |
| 12:41.03 | Ronin | to my /ignore at this rate |
| 12:41.31 | doojin | tarzeau : why do you want to know my asl? |
| 12:41.38 | manuel_ | hi! i installed the ipw2200 module and downloaded and instaled the firmware for my wireless card |
| 12:41.41 | Supaplex | !asl tarzeau |
| 12:41.54 | manuel_ | but I can't see the eth1 interface |
| 12:42.01 | tarzeau | doojin: because if you were near, and were female, and invite me to a cup of coffee, i'd tell you what you want to know |
| 12:42.12 | faber3 | sep: well, hotswap would not be important. the most likely need for the raid 1 would be that i have a drive failure. in that cas i would expect software raid 1 to solidly boot from the remaining drive and offer me a re-sync for the replacement drive |
| 12:42.13 | doojin | tarzeau : hahaha... |
| 12:42.14 | streuner | haha |
| 12:42.14 | manuel_ | the "modprobe ipw2200" looks fine |
| 12:42.15 | Supaplex | tarzeau: enough with the asl crap. this isn't myspace |
| 12:42.15 | Ronin | tarzeau: dont forget the hot looking part of that |
| 12:42.34 | tarzeau | Ronin: at least i could've enjoyed the coffee |
| 12:42.36 | doojin | tarzeau : why don't you tell me? |
| 12:42.44 | tarzeau | doojin: because i'm mean |
| 12:42.48 | sep | faber3, that it will do. but it's in no way a replacement fro backups |
| 12:42.57 | manuel_ | any idea? |
| 12:43.03 | Ronin | ahh thats better |
| 12:43.03 | doojin | tarzeau : not a proper answer, why are you mean? |
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| 12:43.19 | tarzeau | doojin: it's not related to debian nor does it help to solve any problem |
| 12:43.38 | doojin | tarzeau : it helps me know a new thing |
| 12:43.43 | faber3 | sep: i know. backup is a different thing. but with software raid 1, can i place the linux system on it, too? the offered hardware only has two disks, thats why i am asking |
| 12:43.53 | sep | faber3, yes |
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| 12:44.09 | doojin | tarzeau : I also research into payment system |
| 12:44.15 | tarzeau | doojin: if you want to learn new things, try installing debian, learn about irc. and check out http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
| 12:44.25 | Supaplex | *burp* |
| 12:44.28 | onetinsoldier | Ronin: i understand the first part of what you said just fine, but i'm a little lost on the 'you know the drill' part.. hehe |
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| 12:44.46 | doojin | tarzeau : I need a piece of puzzle |
| 12:44.47 | xstasi | hi |
| 12:44.49 | jlaw | faber3, you should also determine which kind of raid you want to build, raid0, raid1, raid10, raid0+1 or raid5 |
| 12:44.51 | Ronin | onetinsoldier: sorry i meant ask and wait and be patient :) |
| 12:44.56 | doojin | tarzeau : are you willing to tell now? |
| 12:44.57 | xstasi | what is the difference between debootstrap and cdebootstrap? |
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| 12:45.18 | tarzeau | doojin: there! there! http://www.ravensburger.de/ |
| 12:45.26 | streuner | !listvals cdebootstrap |
| 12:45.28 | jlaw | faber3: i would say raid5 is the most appreciated - and for raid5 everything but a pure hardware raid controller is a nogo |
| 12:45.31 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'cdebootstrap' by value returned no results. |
| 12:45.38 | streuner | hm |
| 12:45.43 | onetinsoldier | Ronin: ok |
| 12:45.43 | Ronin | doojin: do you have a debian related question? |
| 12:45.44 | tarzeau | i chose thise one for you, doojin http://www.ravensburger.de/imperia/md/images/deutschland/com/themenspecials/2006/bambi/5.jpg |
| 12:45.51 | streuner | no fine factoid of cdebootstrap |
| 12:46.06 | streuner | that's hard |
| 12:46.12 | _ender_ | Is it possible to do something like: sudo mypasswd mycommand? |
| 12:46.22 | faber3 | jlaw: well, i really only need raid 1, i guess. i consider the failing drive the most likely issue. so what else would raid 5 cover? |
| 12:46.22 | _ender_ | provide the pwd in the commandline in some way? |
| 12:46.23 | MKR | |? |
| 12:46.24 | onetinsoldier | Ronin: ok... you're right, i know the drill :) |
| 12:46.39 | MKR | I just use a pipe |
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| 12:46.45 | doojin | tarzeau : huh |
| 12:46.47 | tarzeau | _ender_: it'll show up in the process list |
| 12:46.51 | streuner | dpkg, cdebootstrap is <reply> cdebootstrap is used to create a Debian base system from scratch |
| 12:46.52 | dpkg | ...but cdebootstrap is already something else... |
| 12:46.55 | MKR | oh wait, thought you said su |
| 12:47.20 | omry|work | hi, sorry if this is a bit off-topic : using gnome 2.14.1 on etch. how do configure gnome to use alt-shift to change keyboard layout? the option used to be in the keyboard prefs, but I can't find it there anymore. |
| 12:47.30 | jlaw | faber3: i think you mean hotspare with failing drive? raid5 gives the best happy medium between usable data and speed advantage |
| 12:47.38 | doojin | tarzeau : If you don't want to tell me what it is, just tell me directly why you don't tell me |
| 12:47.38 | tarzeau | omry|work: try #gnome on the irc.gnome.org ? |
| 12:47.39 | streuner | xstasi: do you know now the difference? |
| 12:47.45 | _ender_ | tarzeau: mm, that's bad indeed. stupid is that I have to make a mount as root but I want some other user be able to write in that mount without having to do sudo for each attempt. |
| 12:47.51 | tarzeau | doojin: i'm working at www.playboy.com |
| 12:47.55 | xstasi | i don't |
| 12:48.01 | xstasi | that's why i'm asking |
| 12:48.10 | doojin | what the hell? What does that mean? |
| 12:48.16 | tarzeau | _ender_: you can do sudo without password |
| 12:48.17 | faber3 | jlaw: ah, now i remember, striping.... well with hot spare i would need three drives. i think two drives solution would be enough for my needs |
| 12:48.17 | streuner | xstasi: well, cdebootstrap is used to create a Debian base system from scratch |
| 12:48.24 | sep | faber3, you said only 2 harddrive was available. you can only use raid1 |
| 12:48.29 | xstasi | ...and? |
| 12:48.44 | doojin | tarzeau : I am a grown man, don't joke. tell me directly. |
| 12:48.46 | tarzeau | doojin: it means i'm surrounded by sexy women during my worktime |
| 12:48.47 | xstasi | doesn't debootstrap do the same? |
| 12:48.49 | streuner | xstasi: debootstrap is to install debian over another distro like knoppix |
| 12:48.55 | xstasi | ah |
| 12:48.56 | tarzeau | doojin: man i just told you. what's your problem? |
| 12:48.59 | jlaw | faber3: so you're just aiming at securing the data, not to speed up? |
| 12:49.02 | doojin | tarzeau : it doesn't make sense |
| 12:49.04 | xstasi | so exactly what does debootstrap do more? |
| 12:49.08 | _ender_ | tarzeau: problem is that this other user is a process user. And in that process (zope) i have to move some files from one mount to the other. So there is no prompt or something. It's done from python. |
| 12:49.12 | tarzeau | doojin: you think we don't need computers? |
| 12:49.16 | faber3 | jlaw: yes. i dont need a speed up for that machine |
| 12:49.17 | streuner | xstatsi: they do different jobs? |
| 12:49.32 | xstasi | i mean |
| 12:49.34 | doojin | tarzeau : I just want to know why you don't tell me what pays you. |
| 12:49.35 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: no not yet |
| 12:49.40 | xstasi | debootstrap installs a base debian system |
| 12:49.42 | doojin | tarzeau : That's the only thing I want to know |
| 12:49.44 | xstasi | without kernel/bootloaders |
| 12:49.53 | streuner | xstasi: no |
| 12:49.59 | xstasi | no? |
| 12:50.02 | tarzeau | doojin: none of your business |
| 12:50.03 | streuner | xstasi: yes :-) |
| 12:50.06 | jlaw | faber3: in that case raid1 with a software raidcontroller may serve your needs |
| 12:50.20 | xstasi | does cdebootstrap install kernel too? |
| 12:50.28 | faber3 | jlaw: yes, i think so, too |
| 12:50.34 | _ender_ | tarzeau: mm, or doesn't sudo ask for a password... |
| 12:50.35 | faber3 | thanks for you help, everybody |
| 12:50.44 | doojin | tarzeau : Why do you reject? |
| 12:50.49 | _ender_ | tarzeau: I know os x does. mabye debian doesnt |
| 12:50.52 | tarzeau | _ender_: it can, but must not |
| 12:50.55 | quitte | faber3: you dont need a software raid controller. you can use any controller with software raid |
| 12:50.58 | tarzeau | _ender_: it is configurable |
| 12:51.03 | jlaw | faber3: just have a look if you find some benchmarks for the controllers you have in mind ... and have a look for how they effect the system speed |
| 12:51.03 | _ender_ | tarzeau: ok |
| 12:51.20 | Edward_TLS | mv /lib/tls /lib/tls.disabled <-- can this be undone by just moving it back... ? |
| 12:51.27 | blondie | yes |
| 12:52.02 | doojin | tarzeau : do you dislike me or? |
| 12:52.21 | streuner | xstasi: it would be hard to install unix wihtout any kernel ;-) |
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| 12:52.48 | tarzeau | doojin: no |
| 12:52.53 | quiet | has anyone done Xen on Debian? Etch, in particular. |
| 12:52.58 | tarzeau | doojin: which doesn't mean i like you very much |
| 12:53.23 | quiet | i have found several 'howto's or whatever... but wasn't sure if anyone had one that they thought was particularly good. |
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| 12:53.30 | doojin | tarzeau : you think the payment information is personal which you can't tell? |
| 12:53.59 | manuel_ | I have an Intel PRO wireless card, I installed the mdule but I can see the eth1 interface |
| 12:54.32 | tarzeau | doojin: no, i just like to be "zickig" |
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| 12:55.23 | doojin | what is zickig? |
| 12:55.47 | tarzeau | doojin: dict.leo.org says bitchy |
| 12:56.22 | doojin | Why do you want to be bitchY? |
| 12:56.46 | Ronin | doojin: why do you need to be so annoying? |
| 12:56.46 | jlaw | doojin: "zicken" is a germen expression for "female nagging/jangling" |
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| 12:57.20 | doojin | Ronin : I am concentrating on my purpose. |
| 12:57.23 | superlinux | can some one tell me the purpose of chunk size for RAID0 . which is better for reading speed small chuncks or big chunks? |
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| 12:57.43 | doojin | Ronin : my purpose is to know things more clearly |
| 12:57.45 | tarzeau | superlinux: for alot of small or alot of large files? |
| 12:57.49 | Ronin | doojin: no your being annoying is all your doing |
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| 12:58.08 | doojin | Ronin : being annoying is what you see. |
| 12:58.19 | tarzeau | superlinux: what chunk sizes do you have for choice? |
| 12:58.19 | doojin | Trying to know more is what I see. |
| 12:58.23 | Ronin | what we all see right now |
| 12:58.27 | superlinux | what should be better for squid's cache? |
| 12:58.33 | quitte | doojin: so you are invasive to random peoples privacy for a good reason? |
| 12:58.38 | superlinux | best I mean |
| 12:58.43 | jharrisonwk | tarzeau: been playing though |
| 12:59.18 | doojin | quitte : maybe I am a person who wants to learn other cultures |
| 12:59.29 | superlinux | tarzeau, so? |
| 12:59.59 | doojin | quitte : and I clearly know I am too sticking |
| 13:00.03 | quitte | doojin: how about travelling then? |
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| 13:00.32 | doojin | quitte : now I recognize that people are not answering machine |
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| 13:01.16 | doojin | quitte : do you know a way to learn a new culture? |
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| 13:01.30 | Ronin | doojin: yes go visit that country, no better way |
| 13:01.34 | quitte | doojin: i just told you. go to where the culture is. |
| 13:02.00 | doojin | It is to ask things which people in other cultures think obvious |
| 13:02.08 | tarzeau | doojin: http://wikitravel.org |
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| 13:02.23 | Ronin | ask yes but you long since passed into annoying/almost harrasing |
| 13:02.26 | doojin | this method is used when an explorer went to an isolated island. |
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| 13:03.02 | doojin | Ronin : so you are annoyed |
| 13:03.09 | Ronin | not at all |
| 13:03.13 | tarzeau | i heard some explorers never came back. |
| 13:03.20 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 13:03.28 | doojin | tarzeau : are you annoyed? |
| 13:03.38 | tarzeau | doojin: have i said so? |
| 13:03.50 | Ronin | well as "interesting" as doojin is i have better things to do, like go for coffee |
| 13:03.51 | doojin | Ronin : If you are not annoyed at all, why did you tell me I am annoying? |
| 13:04.03 | jlaw | !tell doojin -about ask |
| 13:04.11 | tarzeau | Ronin: good idea... 15:04 o'clock already |
| 13:04.28 | streuner | doojin: stop that, we told you serveral times, this is technical debian help channel |
| 13:04.57 | streuner | doojin: if someone wants to answer your personal questions he will do |
| 13:05.05 | doojin | streuner : that doesn't mean volunteers choose to ignore other kinds of questions. |
| 13:05.14 | doojin | streuner : they will answer if they like |
| 13:05.34 | doojin | streuner : In this case, he didn't like |
| 13:06.10 | doojin | streuner : you also know other kinds of questions are not forbidden here. |
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| 13:06.31 | doojin | streuner : so we can talk other things if we agree, right? |
| 13:06.35 | jlaw | doojin, you know exactly what we're aiming at, so stop nitpickering |
| 13:06.46 | doojin | jlaw : we can tell other things sometimes |
| 13:06.48 | streuner | doojin: usually not |
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| 13:07.31 | doojin | jlaw : Sticking much is different from telling other things |
| 13:08.16 | jlaw | doojin, everyone tells some shit in order to entertain sometimes ... just stop this stupid discussion |
| 13:08.32 | onetinsoldier | would anyone know why i haven't received any local mail yet? i thought there'd be some sort of mail from the system |
| 13:08.41 | omry|work | is there a problem with gnome on etch? apt-get install gnome gives me "Package gnome is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 13:09.00 | streuner | onetinsoldier: why not login as 'user' and check out? |
| 13:09.30 | doojin | oh mission is not completed |
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| 13:09.49 | onetinsoldier | streuner: well, i thought I have tried to do that. let me try again and/or look around and see what i must be overlooking |
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| 13:10.58 | streuner | !mail tutorial |
| 13:10.59 | dpkg | mail tutorial is, like, at http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
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| 13:11.28 | jcdubacq | what is the right channel for debian gnome development? |
| 13:11.48 | tarzeau | jcdubacq: #gnome on irc.gnome.org |
| 13:11.55 | onetinsoldier | thank you. i used to use sendmail years ago but i have just left exim on here so far this time around |
| 13:11.59 | tarzeau | or #debian-devel depends on what you want? |
| 13:12.07 | livex | please tell me the funtion of the daemon klogd |
| 13:12.25 | jcdubacq | contact debian gnome maintainers |
| 13:12.44 | jlaw | !tell livex -about klogd |
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| 13:14.03 | MikePer | hello. I would like to compile a kernel with a newer module from LSI but I don't know where to put this LSI files to have them to replace the old driver version from the kernel source. it's 3.6.8 stable |
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| 13:16.28 | jcdubacq | In fact, I'd like to check some package currently sitting in NEW, and I do not know how to get the package while it's in limbo |
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| 13:16.41 | theonen | Is there any support for Wimax in Debian? |
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| 13:17.51 | darrh00 | what is Wimax? |
| 13:18.02 | streuner | well, if the package is in debian, sure. |
| 13:18.13 | streuner | !find wimax |
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| 13:18.58 | theonen | streuner: it comes out with nothing |
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| 13:19.15 | streuner | hm |
| 13:19.21 | tobzter | i installed udev and udev creates ttya1 to ttyz6 instead of tty1 to tty3 now getty logs nonstop cant find device errors to auth.log where can i set up getty to look for ttya1-6 |
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| 13:20.29 | theonen | streuner: so we can forget about Wimax in debian, at least for the moment. |
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| 13:23.56 | superlinux | is there an option in /etc/fstab to tell the defualt ownership of newly created files in a partition for ext2? |
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| 13:25.17 | xstasi | superlinux, afaik no |
| 13:25.30 | xstasi | you can create them as the uid you want them to belong |
| 13:25.34 | xstasi | or you can later chown |
| 13:25.50 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:25.58 | superlinux | so the uid can do it? |
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| 13:26.09 | xstasi | if he has the permissions |
| 13:26.29 | superlinux | cos I wanna use it with squid |
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| 13:28.41 | MikePer | superlinux:you can use the setgid bit |
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| 13:29.07 | MikePer | superlinux: it's only for the group though |
| 13:29.33 | superlinux | hw can I get the uid or the gid of ? |
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| 13:32.16 | MikePer | superlinux, sorry? |
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| 13:32.56 | superlinux | how can I get the uid or the gid of ? |
| 13:33.02 | streuner | id |
| 13:33.05 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:33.26 | MikePer | superlinux, it's not helpful to just repeat the question :) |
| 13:33.58 | superlinux | streuner got me |
| 13:34.21 | superlinux | id is what I needed |
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| 13:36.32 | abrotman | !moo |
| 13:36.33 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 13:38.23 | jlaw | rofl ... know the game "virtual supidity" ?^^ |
| 13:38.48 | abrotman | i always win |
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| 13:39.09 | jlaw | i would not doubt a sec !-) |
| 13:39.49 | streuner | !win abrotman |
| 13:39.49 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won a one way ticket to Cuba! |
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| 13:40.16 | MikePer | nice. would like to get one too |
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| 13:40.32 | superlinux | !boo |
| 13:40.35 | streuner | yeah, that was a bad example :-) |
| 13:40.40 | CrippsFX | !alsa |
| 13:40.41 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist> |
| 13:40.42 | superlinux | lol! |
| 13:40.47 | superlinux | thats nice! |
| 13:40.59 | onetinsoldier | hehe.... funny stuff |
| 13:41.02 | superlinux | !potato |
| 13:41.02 | dpkg | somebody said potato was Debian 2.2, released August 14th, 2000, and is no longer supported. Ask me about "potato->woody" for upgrade information. something that grows underground |
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| 13:41.13 | superlinux | !eggplant |
| 13:41.13 | dpkg | Only if you cook it up nice first |
| 13:41.23 | abrotman | !botabuse |
| 13:41.23 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 13:41.24 | superlinux | !black eggplant |
| 13:41.45 | superlinux | !koosa |
| 13:41.57 | superlinux | !tcng |
| 13:42.06 | superlinux | !potato |
| 13:42.06 | dpkg | it has been said that potato is Debian 2.2, released August 14th, 2000, and is no longer supported. Ask me about "potato->woody" for upgrade information. something that grows underground |
| 13:42.08 | orjan | can also be used as... /msg dpkg !something |
| 13:42.11 | superlinux | !tcng |
| 13:42.25 | abrotman | superlinux: stop |
| 13:42.30 | superlinux | tcng is not defined in dpkg |
| 13:42.50 | superlinux | abrotman, I wanna ply with dpkg |
| 13:42.57 | superlinux | I know it's a bot |
| 13:42.57 | abrotman | go to #debian-bots |
| 13:43.03 | superlinux | ok |
| 13:43.16 | streuner | no |
| 13:43.26 | streuner | if you want play, play with /msg dpkg |
| 13:43.41 | abrotman | i think #debian-bots is better .. but oh well |
| 13:44.34 | jlaw | !fish superlinux |
| 13:44.39 | jlaw | play with that abuser |
| 13:44.47 | cahoot | brilliant |
| 13:45.19 | superlinux | goodies! like in worms armagadon game |
| 13:45.25 | abrotman | welcome to #kindgergarten |
| 13:45.49 | abrotman | #spelling is next ... |
| 13:46.01 | cahoot | you mean #speling? |
| 13:46.20 | MikePer | can anyone help me compiling a kernel module please? I got a new version from LSI but don't know where to put it |
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| 13:46.39 | superlinux | I wish that there is a port for that game |
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| 13:47.09 | abrotman | !kp |
| 13:47.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev"and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
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| 13:48.11 | abrotman | jlaw: it's called "#itsstillmorninghere" |
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| 13:48.57 | MikePer | ok, more detailed question: what can one do with a Kconfig.something file? |
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| 13:49.41 | CrippsFX | has anyone here experienced problems with ALSA? I am able to play mp3s via mpg321, but nothing else because my ALSA appears to not be working. |
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| 13:50.00 | doojin | hi |
| 13:50.20 | doojin | I extracted debian netinstall iso to a usb memory stick, but it doesn't work |
| 13:50.21 | jlaw | wb |
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| 13:50.31 | doojin | Boot fail |
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| 13:50.42 | streuner | doojin: check out d-i.pascal.at |
| 13:51.15 | tobzter | i installed udev and udev creates ttya1 to ttyz6 instead of tty1 to tty3 now getty logs nonstop cant find device errors to auth.log where can i set up getty to look for ttya1-6 |
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| 13:51.28 | jlaw | CrippsFX, better ask if anyone did not experienced problems with alsa !-) |
| 13:51.50 | tralala | I didn't |
| 13:52.04 | doojin | streuner : it is not for me. |
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| 13:52.10 | doojin | streuner : it is hd-media installer |
| 13:52.16 | jlaw | tralala, try to set up skype and ts2rc2, then we talk again^^ |
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| 13:52.31 | CrippsFX | jlaw, lol. |
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| 13:53.35 | NRG88 | how many cd-s do i have to download, only to have a base system with KDE? |
| 13:53.39 | tralala | jlaw: I have skype working. No setup at all. Well I have to restart it quite oftenly because of the sound but I'm okay with that. |
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| 13:53.50 | NRG88 | I see there are 14 cds |
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| 13:54.02 | orjan | jlaw: well, skype isn't an alsa app, only uses the oss emulation. |
| 13:54.24 | Ronin | NRG88: there are , but you can install it with one little mini cd and use apt-get to get anything else |
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| 13:54.34 | Ronin | !tell NRG88 about d-i |
| 13:54.54 | jlaw | orjan, the oss-emulation is a part of alsa, isn't it?-) |
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| 13:55.14 | cahoot | jlaw: dosesn't really help |
| 13:55.36 | NRG88 | Ronin, suppose i don't have internet... |
| 13:55.43 | cahoot | jlaw: skype itselt is totally alsa-unaware |
| 13:55.45 | tralala | It is, but you can't blame alsa if it is not perfect. After all oss is depricated. It's all skype's fault! |
| 13:55.47 | NRG88 | so only a base system, with KDE |
| 13:55.50 | orjan | jlaw: yes but emulation doesnt always work perfect, now if skype was an alsa app you could omplain more |
| 13:56.14 | RvGaTe | \o/ |
| 13:56.22 | sc0rpi0 | \quit |
| 13:56.35 | jlaw | orjan, regarding i have to restart after every call, skype works fine^^ but i do not get ts2 running |
| 13:56.36 | tralala | !quit sc0rpi0 |
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| 13:56.59 | sc0rpi0 | tralala , thanks :) |
| 13:57.05 | orjan | jlaw: I have problem with wine too |
| 13:57.12 | tralala | sc0rpi0: sure thing :) |
| 13:57.31 | tralala | what's ts2? |
| 13:57.34 | tralala | a game? |
| 13:57.36 | doojin | Does hd-media installer rocognize sata2? |
| 13:57.39 | doojin | *recognize |
| 13:57.43 | jlaw | tralala: team speak 2 |
| 13:57.46 | doojin | sata2 ide |
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| 13:59.11 | Ronin | NRG88: then disk 1 and maybe 2 are for you |
| 13:59.21 | NRG88 | ok, thanks |
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| 13:59.41 | Ronin | i think theres a dvd one as well but im not positive |
| 13:59.44 | RvGaTe | When i do netstat -a, it displays *:sunrpc *:*, what is that? |
| 13:59.45 | tralala | jlaw: ah, another propriarity piece of crap. I can't blame alsa for not supporting it. |
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| 14:01.10 | zrin | is there a utility to convert öäü in ö ä ü for html? |
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| 14:01.50 | GeeSe | hi |
| 14:01.54 | GeeSe | alguno teneis un macbook? |
| 14:02.13 | nakeee | where is the dev channel? |
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| 14:02.25 | nakeee | ha found it |
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| 14:03.07 | abrotman | !es |
| 14:03.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:03.20 | tralala | abrotman: too little, too late |
| 14:03.23 | abrotman | nakeee: what do you want in there? |
| 14:03.30 | abrotman | tralala: not exactly too little |
| 14:04.11 | tralala | abrotman: that's how the saying goes - I didn't want to change it only because it wasn't appropriate ;) |
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| 14:04.22 | nakeee | abrotman, reporting a bug |
| 14:04.29 | abrotman | nakeee: that's the wrong place for that |
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| 14:04.32 | abrotman | !tell nakeee about reportbug |
| 14:04.41 | MikePer | zrin, it's only few lines in almost every script or shell language you want to use |
| 14:04.41 | sc0rpi0 | !quit |
| 14:04.42 | dpkg | try /quit |
| 14:04.50 | jlaw | tralala: well this peace of crap is the most popular speach transmission tool for gaming purpose - unfortunately i play in a clan and so am reliant upon it |
| 14:04.59 | abrotman | speech |
| 14:05.01 | Daveman | sup abrotman |
| 14:05.09 | abrotman | hi |
| 14:05.22 | jlaw | tralala: but as long as it works under windoze it's ok |
| 14:05.25 | Daveman | Enjoying the nice weather, today? |
| 14:05.31 | tralala | jlaw: I couln't possibly care less even if I was an alsa developer |
| 14:05.32 | zrin | MikePer: yes, but if you want a complete solution which covers (most) characters and understands the input encoding? |
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| 14:07.03 | tralala | jlaw: the alsa guys are trying to write good software and I find them quite successful in thier task. Perhaps skpye and team speak can try as well - just for a change, you know. |
| 14:07.19 | MikePer | zrin: I don't like it, but use java. it decodes when reading into a string an encodes back when writing from a string |
| 14:07.54 | orjan | tralala: they ara a bit weak on docs though... |
| 14:08.21 | tralala | orjan: I said software not docs. |
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| 14:08.44 | orjan | tralala: nods |
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| 14:09.00 | [EaK]Konky | where can i find php5-domxml ? |
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| 14:09.07 | tralala | but hey, for 0$ for a good software I wouldn't complaint much about the docs |
| 14:09.29 | zrin | MikePer: I thought there is a tool like iconv that could do that. I don't want extra java tool just for that purpose |
| 14:09.40 | tijn_ | Iam using a pci adsl modem, but hows that with isdn? |
| 14:09.44 | tijn_ | i mean adsl uses a isdn line |
| 14:10.25 | jlaw | tralala: quote dpkg "[documentation] RTFM is your biggest friend" ^^ |
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| 14:10.45 | MikePer | zrin, it's a bit of an overhead fir that purpose, isn't it? :-) |
| 14:10.47 | tralala | jlaw: uh? |
| 14:10.59 | riot | tijn_: what problem do you have with isdn? |
| 14:11.01 | jlaw | !tell tralala -about documentation |
| 14:11.05 | doojin | Does hd-media installer support sata2? |
| 14:11.26 | tijn_ | riot: well i use a pci modem instead of the standard router |
| 14:11.29 | riot | tijn_: adsl does not necessarily use isdn. you just need some copper-wire into your house ,) |
| 14:11.40 | tijn_ | but the line doesnt sync |
| 14:11.46 | tijn_ | riot: i know |
| 14:11.49 | riot | tijn_: pci-isdn-modem? |
| 14:11.57 | tijn_ | pci-adsl modem |
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| 14:12.06 | tijn_ | adsl comes over isdn |
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| 14:12.10 | riot | tijn_: and that one does not sync? |
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| 14:12.30 | tijn_ | yes |
| 14:12.32 | doojin | damn it |
| 14:12.35 | tralala | jlaw: why are you spamming me? Who made you think that I can't find or can't read docs? |
| 14:12.38 | Andale | hello I have a sarge debian distribution.I must use jdk1.2.2 but if I exec java in a shell bash, I read this error message: "an't load library "/usr/local/jdk1.2.2/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so", because /usr/local/jdk1.2.2/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so: symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference |
| 14:12.38 | Andale | Could not create the Java virtual machine." What must I do? |
| 14:12.40 | abrotman | doojin: it should |
| 14:12.57 | doojin | abrotman : it took forever to mount sata2 harddisk |
| 14:13.02 | abrotman | and? |
| 14:13.02 | insidius | I had my system setup with dnsmasq so i could browse my sites locally without using the ip's but now im using virtual hosts only the one domain works like this |
| 14:13.19 | riot | tijn_: got the splitter in between? you need to split off isdn from your dsl-signal. But thats not really a debian-related problem, you know? ;) |
| 14:13.25 | doojin | abrotman : I gave up |
| 14:13.32 | jlaw | tralala ... never mind, it was just a joke regarding your statement that the functionallity is of interest, not the docs |
| 14:13.39 | tijn_ | riot, adsl was working so the splitter works |
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| 14:13.56 | abrotman | !tell doojin about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 14:14.01 | tijn_ | but i wanted to have the extern ip address directly on my new DEBIAN ;) firewall |
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| 14:14.10 | cr3 | some python sources provide a PKG-INFO file. can that be used to generate a debian package? |
| 14:14.19 | tijn_ | cuz i dont like those plastic router thingies |
| 14:14.27 | riot | tijn_: then by changing the modem it didn't anymore? Hmmm. There's lots of dsl-modems out there these days.. Not all modems support all dsl-variants. Better ask your telco |
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| 14:15.12 | tralala | jlaw: ah... Well, I think that the people generally are not ready to spend money on documentation. This is how I explain to myself the lack of docs for many opensource projects. |
| 14:15.15 | tijn_ | riot the modem works correct tested it on a other adsl line (non-isdn) |
| 14:15.24 | tijn_ | that worked |
| 14:15.32 | riot | tijn_: you might want to check for VPC and VPI-Values.. but i'm not very much into that |
| 14:15.32 | djfred | hi all |
| 14:15.48 | tijn_ | riot, ok will look |
| 14:15.51 | tijn_ | thnx |
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| 14:16.08 | djfred | how can i disable a driver without hotplug and a newer udev? |
| 14:16.08 | jlaw | tralala: for sure ... but my ex info teacher gave me bad grades because my projects lacked commenting and documentation ^^ |
| 14:16.15 | riot | tijn_: i think its independent of your carrier-media (wether analogue, isdn or even nothing).. maybe your cabling isn't good enough for that internal card, either? check that, too |
| 14:16.32 | riot | like, twisted pair and no other cable next to your uplink |
| 14:16.36 | Andale | is there someone who can help me? :( |
| 14:16.40 | [Gabe] | Hey guys, I am trying to install Sarge on my PowerEdge that has a PERC 4e/SI raid controller..the installer keeps trying to load the megaraid module..but shouldn't it be the megaraid2 module? |
| 14:16.41 | tralala | jlaw: perhaps this is why he's a teacher and not a developer |
| 14:16.57 | abrotman | [Gabe]: i believe they were merged in 2.6 |
| 14:17.10 | tijn_ | riot, checked it |
| 14:17.17 | [Gabe] | abrotman: hmm..something is wrong then cause it loads the megaraid module but doesn't detect my disk drives |
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| 14:17.22 | abrotman | tralala: of course .. good code is self documenting :) |
| 14:17.27 | [Gabe] | abrotman: any ideas? |
| 14:17.30 | tralala | As the saying goes - whoever is able to do it - does it, whoever's not - teaches the others |
| 14:17.30 | jlaw | tralala: you got it ... this guy confessed that he did not understood some of my code^^ |
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| 14:17.32 | abrotman | [Gabe]: dell sucks? :) |
| 14:17.46 | [Gabe] | abrotman: :(..ive had such good luck with dell up to this point |
| 14:17.49 | abrotman | !dell |
| 14:17.50 | dpkg | [dell] a wonderful company that makes very wonderful laptops, but also some extremely bad laptops. For new ISOs to boot your Dell server, look at http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ or the worst company you could ever do business with, or crap, or http://www.domsch.com/linux/, or http://linux.dell.com/ |
| 14:18.14 | djfred | on sarge: how can i disable a driver without hotplug and a newer udev from backports.org? |
| 14:18.18 | tralala | abrotman: hehe, indeed |
| 14:18.18 | abrotman | !tell [Gabe] about sarge uni |
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| 14:18.43 | abrotman | !tell djfred about blacklist |
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| 14:18.58 | googler | anyony tried slackware before? |
| 14:19.00 | orjan | riot: what is adsl over isdn?, thoght adsl/isnd was two different was of sending signals on copper |
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| 14:19.12 | SlammerXP | googler: no, no-one has ever tried slackware before. |
| 14:19.12 | googler | anyone* |
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| 14:19.29 | djfred | abrotman, big thanks! |
| 14:19.31 | tijn_ | orjan no, the adsl connection is delivered by a isdn lijn |
| 14:19.33 | tijn_ | line* |
| 14:19.33 | Ronin | googler: #slackware has |
| 14:19.39 | abrotman | googler: in #slackware maybe |
| 14:19.58 | googler | ok thanx |
| 14:19.58 | tralala | jlaw: teachers... thank's to them we have so many "qualified" programmers that should normally be banned from even using other's people software |
| 14:20.07 | MikePer | [Gabe], got some problems with a megaraid adapter myself |
| 14:20.07 | riot | orjan: no. dsl just makes use of the higher frequencies of the band. Isdn/analog telephony use frequencies up to some kHz, whilst dsl on the same line uses everything it can above those two |
| 14:20.09 | orjan | tijn_: when I had isdn it was on an pots line |
| 14:20.10 | [Gabe] | abrotman: eew kveton uses 2.4! |
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| 14:20.19 | [Gabe] | MikePer: what controller? |
| 14:20.19 | tijn_ | pots? |
| 14:20.22 | abrotman | [Gabe]: and if it works ? |
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| 14:20.34 | abrotman | last i checked .. working is better than not working |
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| 14:20.44 | orjan | riot: so it's just two differnt signals on the same cable? |
| 14:20.48 | gnychis | is there somewhere that i can read about cool linux desktop applications? |
| 14:20.49 | riot | tijn_: my dsl comes over an analog line. I tell you, all you need for dsl is a good pair of copper-wires which allow HF.. The more HF, the more bandwidth |
| 14:20.57 | MikePer | [Gabe], 150-4D |
| 14:20.57 | abrotman | [Gabe]: see what dpkg told you .. maybe try one of those |
| 14:21.02 | [Gabe] | abrotman: k |
| 14:21.11 | riot | orjan: right. Thats what these splitters are there for. They're something like a frequency-splitter |
| 14:21.25 | orjan | riot: ok |
| 14:21.46 | riot | orjan: interesting thing is, they didn't think about doing that for SO LONG... |
| 14:22.21 | eset | hi, i have debian with 2.6.8-2 kernel i was wondering how i can get my modules (asterisk) to compile in modules/2.6.8-2 instead of modules/2.6.8 , is this a deb issue or an asterisk issue? |
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| 14:24.06 | jbgswp | hello |
| 14:24.11 | sigjuice | hello |
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| 14:24.34 | MikePer | abrotman, are there newer megaraid drivers in .12 or .14? |
| 14:24.35 | RvGaTe | hi |
| 14:24.44 | jbgswp | Do you speak freanch? |
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| 14:24.48 | abrotman | MikePer: you'd think so .. wouldn't you? |
| 14:24.49 | Ronin | !fr |
| 14:24.49 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 14:25.09 | yohu123 | does anyone know how to mount the linux partition of the ipod in colinux debain? |
| 14:25.42 | MikePer | abrotman, well, I would think so, but I know what I think the whole day, and wouldn't trust my thoughts |
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| 14:26.10 | stoned | yohu123, I don't think you can, unless colinux can directly access usb |
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| 14:26.25 | zood_ | Is there any particular reason to prefer either ftp or http for sources.list entries? |
| 14:26.55 | jair | guys, if I am logged into a directory with a lot of other directories and files, and I want to find or locate an specific file what will be teh best to do the best command. |
| 14:26.57 | stoned | zood_, I find http to be faster than ftp |
| 14:26.59 | jair | ? |
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| 14:27.03 | MikePer | is there an easy way to update to 2.6.14 without leaving stable behind? |
| 14:27.28 | stoned | MikePer, there should be backports |
| 14:27.40 | zood_ | stoned; ah that's good because my campus wireless seems to block ftp |
| 14:27.52 | jair | could I use "find" or "search"? |
| 14:27.59 | sigjuice | jair: you could use the find command |
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| 14:28.33 | zimnyx | How can i set global env variable? |
| 14:28.35 | djfred | jair, yes, "find . -name '*NAME-FILE*'" |
| 14:28.41 | jair | sigjuice: yes but with what parameters? example: "find *jpg" |
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| 14:29.08 | djfred | jair, "find . -name '*NAME-FILE*'" |
| 14:29.15 | sigjuice | find . -name '*jpg' |
| 14:29.27 | jair | djfred: and the . -name '*name-file*' |
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| 14:29.42 | Teddy__ | hi everyone, i have a intel ac 97 sound card (ICH6 family) ; can anyone help me set it up on a debian 3.1 (kernel 2.6) ? thanks |
| 14:29.46 | jair | djfred: where -name is the directory name or is the option. |
| 14:29.48 | jair | ? |
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| 14:30.35 | djfred | jair, -name is the option |
| 14:30.55 | jair | djfred: perfect I am getting it here and I can use wildcard * ;) |
| 14:31.08 | djfred | jair, yes |
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| 14:32.39 | jair | perfect |
| 14:32.47 | jair | djfred: thank you very much for your help |
| 14:32.53 | genelisp|away | hi, I've noticed that php5 in testing is compiled without mysqli support - how can I enable this, short of a php recompile? |
| 14:33.00 | djfred | jair: np |
| 14:33.53 | insidius | What would most ppl here reccomend? apache 1.3 or apache 2? |
| 14:34.12 | Teddy__ | hi, anyone familiar with alsa ? |
| 14:34.18 | tiagosab | Hi! I've installed etch in a second hd and transferred it to an old machine (pentium 150), but now I can't boot... |
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| 14:34.44 | tiagosab | When I type boot at the grub prompt, it reboots. any idea? |
| 14:34.51 | peppet | genelisp|away: are you sure you need mysqli? |
| 14:34.54 | abrotman | tiagosab: edit the grub settings |
| 14:35.20 | abrotman | tiagosab: grub is trying to boot off the wrong drive |
| 14:35.24 | orjan | Teddy__: try run alsaconfig as root |
| 14:35.30 | Teddy__ | tiagosab, (i'm not exepert) but it could be that the grub is not set to work on that other machine |
| 14:35.38 | genelisp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:35.52 | abrotman | noone needs mysql |
| 14:35.54 | Teddy__ | tiagosab: i had a problem like that once and ran a knoppix from cd to modify the grub and fix it |
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| 14:36.30 | Teddy__ | orjan: i installed alsa-utils and alsa-base earlier but couldnt find alsa-modules for the kernel2.6 |
| 14:36.36 | Teddy__ | when i run alsaconf it doesnt find my card |
| 14:37.45 | tiagosab | abrotman: but i've set the root, kernel and initrd options at the command line... |
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| 14:38.02 | orjan | Teddy__: do you find a ard with lspci? |
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| 14:38.46 | yohu123 | anyone that can help me? |
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| 14:39.05 | MikePer | stoned: if I follow the instructions I get an error with aptitude from /etc/apt/preferences about a missing header |
| 14:39.13 | Teddy__ | orjan: what a ard ? |
| 14:39.21 | stoned | I'm away |
| 14:39.25 | stoned | sorry |
| 14:39.30 | orjan | Teddy__: ahh sorry, card |
| 14:39.37 | MikePer | stoned, no problem, thanks though |
| 14:39.39 | orjan | as in soundcard |
| 14:39.47 | tiagosab | Teddy__: but this machine has no floppy, no cd, no usb... |
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| 14:39.58 | Ronin | tiagosab: borrow a cd? |
| 14:40.01 | Teddy__ | orjan, ah sorry yes i see it audio device: intel |
| 14:40.41 | tiagosab | Ronin: my bios won't boot from it |
| 14:40.50 | genelisp | how can I find out which package refers to another one? for example when I try to install php5-mysqli it tells me that it is referred to by another package - how can I find out which package is referring to it? |
| 14:41.18 | Teddy__ | tiagosab, i remember u can edit a grub line (press e if i remember right) so u can try to find the right grub command |
| 14:41.37 | orjan | Teddy__: check on the als homepage, it's not always obvious what module to load. I haven't used any intel sound myself |
| 14:41.50 | Teddy__ | orjan, ok thanks, will try again |
| 14:41.50 | abrotman | tiagosab: how? |
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| 14:44.01 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:44.01 | dpkg | somebody said popcon was the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:44.58 | blondie | !popcorn |
| 14:45.07 | blondie | lol |
| 14:45.08 | StyXman | hi all. how are the nic ifaecs names defined? here I've got a eth2_temp, and I don't know where that name came from. I don't have hal, dbus or hotplug installed . this is debian etch |
| 14:45.16 | orjan | Teddy__: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Intel#matrix |
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| 14:46.06 | dhuv | hello all |
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| 14:46.19 | insidius | hello! |
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| 14:46.24 | dhuv | I was wondering what it would take to get my isa sound card to work under deiban testing |
| 14:46.24 | tiagosab | abrotman: how what? I did 'root (hd0,0)' 'kernel /vmlinuz' 'initrd /initrd.img' 'boot' |
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| 14:47.05 | abrotman | tiagosab: are you 100% sure there is a /vmlinuz or /initrd.img ? |
| 14:47.25 | zood_ | How can I get fceu to use the entire screen? I there a better place to answer this question? |
| 14:47.31 | dhuv | i see the isapnptools package in stable but not in testing |
| 14:47.32 | StyXman | dhuv: discover the chipset of the card, search in http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php and load the proper module |
| 14:47.58 | StyXman | dhuv: it isn't needed anymore. now the kernel handles isa-pnp automatically |
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| 14:48.14 | Teddy__ | orjan, thanks |
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| 14:48.51 | tiagosab | abrotman: yes, grub completed it and acknowledged it was a kernel and an inird |
| 14:49.10 | abrotman | and then it just reboots? |
| 14:49.23 | tiagosab | abrotman: yes |
| 14:49.32 | abrotman | eh .. why didn't you install it on this machine again? |
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| 14:50.43 | dhuv | StyXman : pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 01:01.00 |
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| 14:50.54 | dhuv | thats what I get with dmesg when I do try to load the alsa drivers |
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| 14:51.07 | StyXman | dhuv: which alsa driver? which card is? |
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| 14:52.22 | Teddy__ | orjan, i m following the quick install procedure ; it assumes i downloaded some files, i m not too sure which to get from the alsa site |
| 14:52.23 | ringe | dpkg-reconfigure grub configures the wrong root partition, using (hd0,5) which is home in stead of (hd0,1) which is root. What can I do about it? |
| 14:52.36 | tiagosab | it has no cd, no floppy, just 32M of ram |
| 14:52.40 | marius_ | hello ppl. I am just wondering. I am still learning debian and I was wanting to know how I can find out what version I am running. I think I am running stable which I think is sarge. I am wanting to upgrade to testing. am I able to do that? |
| 14:52.56 | zrin | I have a strange problem wit apache2 (default install with etch): the very same plain html file in iso-8859-1 served by apache1 on another server comes unmagled, but when served by apache2 the text seems to get mangled (? in place of some characters like öäü). I've tested it with 3 browsers. What can be the reason? |
| 14:53.22 | orjan | Teddy__: check first if you can load the module already |
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| 14:53.43 | StyXman | zrin: encodings. you apache is delivering pages in some encoding whlie saying it'encoded in another |
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| 14:54.15 | Teddy__ | orjan, this commands modinfo soundcore returns a filename etc |
| 14:54.26 | zrin | StyXman: so apache is not just delivering the file? in the file itself it stays: <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> |
| 14:55.05 | zrin | StyXman: di I have to adjust some options for apache2? |
| 14:55.11 | StyXman | zrin: unluckly browsers ignore that and take what the server says. try using wget -S <url> to see what's apache2 saying |
| 14:55.14 | zrin | di/do |
| 14:55.14 | abrotman | !rube goldberg install |
| 14:55.14 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
| 14:55.19 | lepton_ | zrin: perhaps #apache would know something ... |
| 14:55.28 | abrotman | tiagosab: try a grub floppy |
| 14:55.29 | qwertz | Hi, I'd like to use tar for incremental backup. Using the --listed-incremental option this works. But to ease the recovery procedure I'd like to have only to backup files: 1. the complete backup 2. all changed/added files since complete backup how could I do this? do a write lock on the snapshot file? or is there another recommended solution? |
| 14:55.36 | zrin | thank you |
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| 14:56.00 | orjan | Teddy__: try a modprobe snd-intel8x0 |
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| 14:57.01 | marius_ | is there any easy way to upgrade from sarge to etch? |
| 14:57.16 | zrin | StyXman: you're right, that apache2 reports charset=UTF-8 ! |
| 14:57.17 | StyXman | zrin: my wild guess: you installed the system using the utf-8 encoding, which is the one apache2's is saying the page is encoded into, but the page, as you say, is encoded in iso-8859-1 |
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| 14:57.28 | zrin | StyXman: exactely |
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| 14:57.38 | StyXman | zrin: I had the opposite problem |
| 14:58.07 | StyXman | zrin: i solved it with AddDefaultCharset iso-8859-1 |
| 14:58.10 | zrin | StyXman: do you think I should recode the documents? I feel apache should serve them as is |
| 14:58.25 | zrin | StyXman: I'll try that, thank you |
| 14:58.27 | Teddy__ | zrin; i think u can specify to apache2 to serve some givn files using a chosen encoding like with an .thaccess file |
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| 14:58.43 | wwallace_lap | hello great people of the #debian room |
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| 14:58.46 | wwallace_lap | how r u? |
| 14:58.51 | wwallace_lap | me fine |
| 14:58.55 | wwallace_lap | !shuttleworth |
| 14:58.55 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, shuttleworth is da shit |
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| 14:59.00 | Teddy__ | orjan: i did that and got several warnings |
| 14:59.07 | tiagosab | abrotman: no floppy, unfortunately |
| 14:59.10 | ircdevil | *sigh* - my beloved debian server has been replaced with a virtual suse box :o( |
| 14:59.11 | wwallace_lap | tell wwallace_lap about enter |
| 14:59.17 | wwallace_lap | tell wwallace_lap about !enter |
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| 14:59.26 | wwallace_lap | !tell wwallace_lap about !enter |
| 14:59.30 | pngwn | !pmm |
| 14:59.30 | Ronin | wwallace_lap: you can stop that anytime now :) |
| 14:59.30 | dpkg | rumour has it, pmm is Please /msg me, don't make me spew to the channel. |
| 14:59.30 | StyXman | zrin: it does, but it assumes the encoding is the same as the rest of the system, and browsers use what the server says and not what the document says (which i think is a bug) |
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| 14:59.55 | insidius | It might take me a while to get things working but its worth it in the end. :-) |
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| 15:00.25 | Teddy__ | orjan: it says: WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/linux-sound-base_noOSS line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'blacklist' |
| 15:00.28 | zrin | StyXman: ... which made me lose almost an hour of my life while tracking the problem .... :/ |
| 15:00.42 | StyXman | zrin: wget -S helps a lot :) |
| 15:01.18 | marius_ | if anyone is not busy at the moment, is there any easy way to upgrade from sarge to etch? |
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| 15:01.47 | orjan | Teddy__: ahh, you reached my limit there...sorry |
| 15:01.54 | StyXman | marius_: edit sources.list, replace sarge w/ etch, aptitude update, aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 15:02.07 | dtech | hello debian i am trying to fire up GDM+XDMCP with no hardware connected to the machine (mouse, monitor,keys), Xfree86 keeps erroring out looking for devices when I start up GDM, I know this can e done but I can't remember how it worked.. any help would be appreciated |
| 15:02.15 | Teddy__ | orjan, thanks there is some progress anyway |
| 15:02.17 | marius_ | cool. thanks I will try that |
| 15:02.39 | orjan | Teddy__: good luck |
| 15:02.47 | genelisp | hi, I've got a problem with trying to install php5 - I try to install but I can't because php5 depends on libapache2-mod-php5 "which is not going to be installed" - can anyone help? |
| 15:03.43 | marius_ | ok. it says stable main. do I just replace stable with etch? |
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| 15:04.13 | StyXman | marius_: yes, everyone |
| 15:04.30 | marius_ | and do I leave it on stable for the security packages? |
| 15:04.45 | StyXman | marius_: no, try etch |
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| 15:05.15 | wwallace_lap | abrotman: how the fuck are u? |
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| 15:07.12 | abrotman | Ronin: i'd prefer they just ban him |
| 15:07.32 | Ronin | abrotman: yep |
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| 15:09.20 | Sourcey | Who will rescue a debian noob in trouble.. When I boot my machine it says "/dev/hda5 doesn't exist, dropping to a shell" |
| 15:09.37 | azeem | Sourcey: what did you change? |
| 15:09.53 | sohmestra | Sourcey: |
| 15:09.57 | Sourcey | I installed some applications and did aptitude upgrade, rebooted and it stopped working |
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| 15:10.18 | sohmestra | how long ago w as your last reboot? |
| 15:10.33 | Sourcey | hmm, 10 minutes |
| 15:10.51 | sohmestra | Sourcey: 10 minutes before the upgrade, etc? |
| 15:11.23 | Sourcey | No, it all broke down yesterday |
| 15:11.33 | Sourcey | or rather, 8 hours ago |
| 15:11.54 | Sourcey | I rebooted it a few times then, left it off and now it's still not magically fixed :p |
| 15:12.24 | sohmestra | Sourcey: If, prior to the upgrade, your last reboot was a long time ago, it's possible that you changed something, and forget it. |
| 15:12.46 | zood_ | If something tells me I need to "have the OpenGL headers installed", what package would this be in sarge? |
| 15:12.52 | Sourcey | I'll try to think really hard... |
| 15:13.03 | sohmestra | Sourcey: when you are "dropped to a shell", what happens? |
| 15:13.47 | Sourcey | I get a shell that doesn't recognise most commands |
| 15:13.47 | Sourcey | it does cd and ls, not much else |
| 15:13.59 | Sourcey | doesn't ask for username/password |
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| 15:15.08 | sohmestra | Sourcey: and what does ls show you is available? /proc ? |
| 15:15.29 | sohmestra | Sourcey: what does: cat /proc/partitions show you? |
| 15:15.51 | Sourcey | ok i'll reboot it and try it out |
| 15:15.55 | Sourcey | I was in a shell from the boot cd |
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| 15:16.05 | yipstar | hello, i'm trying to find out if debian supports an LSI Megaraid sata card |
| 15:16.16 | abrotman | does linux? |
| 15:16.26 | yipstar | not sure |
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| 15:16.33 | yipstar | know where i can go to check? |
| 15:17.33 | MikePer | yipstar, stable has a fairly old LSI driver but I'm checking the 2.6.14 kernel at the moment to see if this one has a newer driver. I hope so |
| 15:17.44 | yipstar | thank you MikePer |
| 15:17.55 | yipstar | where do you go to check this stuff? |
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| 15:19.04 | dhuv | StyXman: soundblaster awe 64 gold |
| 15:19.21 | dhuv | I know the digital output is not supported, but I am hoping atleast for the analog |
| 15:19.23 | mick_work | anyone get mod_redirect (using apache2) to work in debian? |
| 15:19.37 | abrotman | mick_work: it's not that hard |
| 15:19.46 | mick_work | that's what I thought ;) |
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| 15:20.11 | mick_work | I have ssl running, along with mod_security - I figured that mod_rewrite would be just as easy |
| 15:20.14 | MikePer | yipstar, Im installing it from backports |
| 15:20.58 | yipstar | MikePer: I'd be doing a new installation, anything special i'd new to do during the install? |
| 15:21.06 | yipstar | debian newb over here |
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| 15:23.17 | ircdevil | 10 minutes into suse, and i already loathe it ... |
| 15:23.27 | Sourcey | ok, i'm in. /proc is available, and cat/proc/partitions says major minor #blocks name, and nothing else |
| 15:24.02 | eset | anyone had experience with zaptel modprobe problems for debian 2.6? I have asked at the asterisk irc but no debian ppl around it seems |
| 15:24.06 | dhuv | should lspci show na isa card, I though it did do this before |
| 15:24.18 | sohmestra | Sourcey: could you access your harddrive from your install CD shell? |
| 15:24.19 | eset | i get an "invalid module format" error when modprobing |
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| 15:24.41 | Sourcey | Yes sohmestra, I found out how to mount it via google |
| 15:24.55 | MikePer | yipstar, humm. are you installing onto the drives connected to the megaraid? |
| 15:24.58 | Sourcey | I also have a dual boot windows installed from which I can access the partition |
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| 15:25.06 | yipstar | MikePer: was hoping to yes |
| 15:25.46 | sohmestra | Sourcey: do you have 'mount' available to you? |
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| 15:25.55 | Sourcey | yes |
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| 15:26.02 | sohmestra | Sourcey: type mount |
| 15:26.04 | Harlequin | hi all |
| 15:26.08 | Harlequin | moune |
| 15:26.10 | Harlequin | mount |
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| 15:26.22 | Harlequin | what now ? |
| 15:26.31 | Sourcey | mount says none on /sys type sysfs (rw), none on /proc type proc (rw, nodiratime), udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw) |
| 15:26.31 | saloxin | dhuv: nope. hwinfo might help. or guessing ioport and irq ;-) |
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| 15:27.25 | Harlequin | fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 15:27.45 | sohmestra | Sourcey: try: mount /dev/hda5 / -o ro |
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| 15:28.00 | sohmestra | Sourcey: I'm assuming that partition is supposed to be your root fs |
| 15:28.11 | Sourcey | yeah |
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| 15:28.22 | Harlequin | mount /dev/hda666 / -o ro |
| 15:28.24 | Sourcey | failed: no such file or directory |
| 15:28.44 | Harlequin | mount /dev/hdb / -o ro |
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| 15:29.14 | VolVE | hey all, another noobish question: I have some directories in dir1 that are partial copies of directories in dir2, when I try and mv the dir1 contents to dir2, it says "cannot overwrite directory: XYZ" for each one - is there any way to force it to merge them so I only have dir2 with complete contents? :-/ |
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| 15:29.34 | Sourcey | I also tried MAKEDEV hda5 in the installcd shell, gave me an error too |
| 15:29.40 | Harlequin | linux WIN !!! |
| 15:29.42 | sohmestra | Sourcey: ls /dev/hda* |
| 15:29.53 | Sourcey | no such file or dir |
| 15:30.11 | Harlequin | flooding :) |
| 15:30.17 | sohmestra | Sourcey: I guess that makes sense ;o) |
| 15:30.29 | Sourcey | bah :P |
| 15:30.41 | Harlequin | #flood |
| 15:30.48 | Harlequin | USE #flood |
| 15:30.58 | Sourcey | Why don't you use #flood |
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| 15:31.20 | Harlequin | how ? sourcey |
| 15:31.44 | sohmestra | Sourcey: try rebooting, and select your pre-upgrade kernel, assuming it's an option |
| 15:31.45 | Harlequin | #flood Harlequin |
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| 15:32.05 | Sourcey | Ok, i'll try it in a minute |
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| 15:32.40 | sohmestra | Sourcey: perhaps the new kernel doesnt support your controller or something wack like that. |
| 15:33.26 | digitaleric | hi all, I'm trying to install a debian sid chroot, and following the instructions from the debootstrap man page, but it fails with the message "E: Couldn't download base-config". |
| 15:33.34 | digitaleric | any suggestions? |
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| 15:34.23 | MikePer | yipstar, I got problems with my 150-4D card. it worked if I set the cache to write-back but thats quite insecure |
| 15:34.36 | yipstar | sigh |
| 15:35.03 | MikePer | yipstar, but it should be sufficient to install debian and upgrade to 2.6.14 after the install |
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| 15:35.43 | yipstar | but the stock install cd won't have drivers to see the hardware raid controller no? |
| 15:36.02 | tarzeau | is there a list of all files of all packages in debian that i can easily get or generate? |
| 15:36.10 | tarzeau | what about those only with +x ? |
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| 15:36.32 | novata_peleona | hi... |
| 15:36.33 | gnychis | how can i create a static version of insmod when i have the source for modutils? |
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| 15:37.23 | novata_peleona | is any way to mount a remote vfat and allow user to write in?? --->mount -t smbfs //makina/datos_fat32 /mnt/makina_datos -o username=administrador,password=administrador |
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| 15:37.38 | novata_peleona | i cant do it as a user! |
| 15:38.06 | sohmestra | novata_peleona: chown /mnt/makina_datos to the user after mounting it |
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| 15:38.18 | novata_peleona | sohmestra, i cant. |
| 15:38.51 | petemc | sohmestra: that wont work |
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| 15:39.16 | novata_peleona | petemc, is there any solution for it? |
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| 15:40.04 | sohmestra | petemc: I'm almost certain I've done that before...is there a particular reason why it won't? |
| 15:40.08 | petemc | novata_peleona: undoubtedly, i cant think of it off the top of my head tho |
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| 15:40.44 | petemc | sohmestra: vfat doesnt respect linux file attributes |
| 15:41.02 | MikePer | yipstar, there are divers in the stable install. they are just very old (1.18, 2.20 is the current version) |
| 15:41.10 | MikePer | erm, drivers |
| 15:41.54 | yipstar | ah so they might work? |
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| 15:42.06 | yipstar | MikePer: and then i can just upgrade? |
| 15:42.33 | digitaleric | can anyone help me with a debootstrap problem? |
| 15:42.51 | sohmestra | petemc: exactly, that's why chowning the mountpoint should allow any user that owns it to modify any files inside it |
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| 15:43.31 | petemc | sohmestra: no, it wont |
| 15:43.49 | MikePer | yipstar, I don't know if the kernel-2.4 drivers will work. but you can try. and if they work, you can upgrade to 2.6.14 after the initial install |
| 15:43.57 | petemc | novata_peleona: i think perhaps you can specify uids for users in the mount command |
| 15:44.05 | yipstar | MikePer: gotcha |
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| 15:44.52 | novata_peleona | petemc, i did for administrador , what it means as root windows |
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| 15:45.09 | MikePer | yipstar, but you will have to use backports because the newest 2.6 in stable is 2.6.8 and this is quite old |
| 15:45.28 | snickel1650 | hi, I'm completely new to linux and I just installed Debian |
| 15:45.30 | Sourcey | sohmestra, my old kernel is not in the grub list |
| 15:45.39 | snickel1650 | can anyone tell me how I access the GUI from the command line? |
| 15:45.56 | Sourcey | snickel1650, press crtl+alt+f7 |
| 15:46.04 | Sourcey | or type startx or kde or whatever |
| 15:46.19 | Sourcey | or startkde |
| 15:46.21 | snickel1650 | no lyuck with ctrl alt f7 |
| 15:46.24 | snickel1650 | startx |
| 15:46.26 | petemc | novata_peleona: try umask=002 then, or have a google... |
| 15:46.37 | snickel1650 | it says command not found |
| 15:47.20 | Sourcey | snickel1650, startkde? |
| 15:47.29 | snickel1650 | same thing, command not found |
| 15:47.38 | Sourcey | try apt-get install kde, then startkde |
| 15:48.19 | snickel1650 | ah ok it's working |
| 15:48.27 | snickel1650 | I was doing a minimal installation |
| 15:48.32 | snickel1650 | I guess it needed to download it? |
| 15:48.34 | snickel1650 | thanks a lot |
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| 15:48.39 | Sourcey | yeah, np |
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| 15:49.47 | snickel1650 | I want to do a dual boot with XP and debian.. is easier if I erase everything and install XP first and then debian? |
| 15:49.55 | novata_peleona | pitillo, nada. al hacer el mount, le reasigna los permisos al pto demontaje |
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| 15:50.14 | snickel1650 | or is there a way I can install XP after I've installed debian? |
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| 15:50.32 | sohmestra | Sourcey: use your install CD to mount your partitions under /target, chroot to it, then try reinstalling your kernel. |
| 15:50.34 | valdyn | snickel1650: why not? |
| 15:50.43 | genelisp | hi, I've got an error with dpkg - can anyone help? - here's the output: http://pastebin.com/735238 |
| 15:50.57 | Sourcey | ok sohmestra, which package would i have to install? |
| 15:51.19 | snickel1650 | valdyn: why not what? |
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| 15:51.36 | valdyn | snickel1650: why do you think you cannt install XP after you have installed debian? |
| 15:51.56 | sohmestra | Sourcey: or at your grub prompt, try editing the boot params to specify /dev/hdb5 or whatever, just for kicks. |
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| 15:52.09 | Sourcey | ok, i'll screw around with it |
| 15:52.14 | Linuturk | just installed debian sarge on a 300 mhz 128 mb system. Using gnome. several desktop applets fail to load. When i try to reload them, they work fine. Is there a way to lenghten the timeout on so it doesn't pop up every boot? |
| 15:52.24 | Sourcey | thanks for your help :) |
| 15:52.40 | sohmestra | Sourcey: I'm not convinced I've been too helpful, but your welcome anyway ;o) |
| 15:53.05 | sohmestra | s/your/you're/ |
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| 15:53.14 | Sourcey | thanks anyways :P |
| 15:53.18 | danny | spanish? |
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| 15:53.32 | kspath | !tell danny about es |
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| 15:53.45 | danny | thanx |
| 15:53.49 | Azar | danny ve escribe /join #debian-es |
| 15:53.59 | danny | gracias |
| 15:54.04 | sohmestra | danny: mira #debian-es |
| 15:54.35 | insidius | how do i find which version of debian i am using? |
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| 15:54.47 | sohmestra | insidius: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:54.52 | RichiH | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 16:01.03 | Supaplex | it's like quiet in here... |
| 16:01.08 | quiet | indeed. |
| 16:01.22 | Supaplex | yea, just like you. :-D |
| 16:01.27 | quiet | ;) |
| 16:01.42 | eset | is there any nice way i can tell what gcc version my debian kernel was compiled with? |
| 16:02.24 | Linuturk | just installed debian sarge on a 300 mhz 128 mb system. Using gnome. several desktop applets fail to load. When i try to reload them, they work fine. Is there a way to lenghten the timeout on so it doesn't pop up every boot? |
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| 16:02.25 | kspath | eset: I have not tried it in ages but maybe strings command with less or grep |
| 16:02.32 | petemc | eset: cat /proc/version |
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| 16:03.13 | eset | ah yes, ta |
| 16:03.18 | kspath | wow, there it is, plain as day |
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| 16:03.27 | petemc | assuming you're running said kernel at the time... |
| 16:03.53 | Supaplex | kspath: beats the ole' grep -ril gcc /proc hehe |
| 16:04.24 | Linuturk | what is the best way to completely remove KDE from a fresh desktop install? |
| 16:04.53 | Supaplex | !nokde |
| 16:05.08 | sohmestra | Linuturk: apt-get --purge remove kdelibs |
| 16:05.24 | Supaplex | aptitude is pretty good about cleaning unused libs |
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| 16:06.31 | kspath | Supaplex: or grepping in /boot/ |
| 16:06.39 | Supaplex | yea |
| 16:06.46 | kspath | Supaplex: strings /boot/* | grep gcc |
| 16:06.52 | Supaplex | !win petemc |
| 16:06.52 | dpkg | Congratulations, petemc! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 16:07.06 | Supaplex | ohh, there's got to be better prizes :P |
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| 16:07.13 | kspath | There are so many nice nice things in /proc |
| 16:07.19 | Supaplex | oh yes |
| 16:07.20 | eset | is there any obvious reason my newly compiled modules give a 'invalid module format' error when modprobed? |
| 16:07.20 | quitte | can someone here help me make a custom xen kernel from debian kernel source? i dont understand it at all. is the kernel source prepatched or isn't it? |
| 16:07.23 | kspath | !petemc++ |
| 16:07.37 | Supaplex | !karma petemc |
| 16:07.37 | dpkg | petemc has karma of 3 |
| 16:07.38 | ManiacMiniLappy | spam spam spam spamity spam spam spam, wonderful spam, glorious spam! |
| 16:07.49 | azeem | quitte: I suggest you ask in #debian-kernel (on oftc I think) |
| 16:07.52 | Supaplex | !karma Supaplex |
| 16:07.52 | dpkg | supaplex has neutral karma |
| 16:07.57 | quitte | azeem: thanks |
| 16:08.02 | sohmestra | quitte: the kernel is not xen patched in sarge, at least |
| 16:08.05 | petemc | woo |
| 16:08.14 | petemc | quitte: i use the xen kernel from sid, saves a lot of hassle |
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| 16:08.45 | fausto | scuola privata 3000 euro con mastercard. penna bic 1 euro con mastercard. passare l'unico debito della tua vita con 9 non ha prezzo. ci sono cose che non si possono comprare, per tutto il resto c'e' mastercard |
| 16:08.48 | Supaplex | are you on kfreebsd? |
| 16:08.52 | petemc | Linux xen 2.6.16-1-xen-686 #1 SMP Thu May 4 17:05:43 UTC 2006 i686 |
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| 16:08.59 | raf256` | fausto: wtf? |
| 16:09.03 | Reptilutz | how i can configure network debian? |
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| 16:09.15 | kspath | !tell fausto about it |
| 16:09.16 | Supaplex | Reptilutz: man 5 interfaces |
| 16:09.20 | dhuv | doing dmesg I can see the my isa soundblaster awe 64 gold is found, hwinfo has info about it as well, but when I do modprobe -v snd-sb I get FATAL: Error inserting snd_sbawe (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/sound/isa/sb/snd-sbawe.ko): No such device |
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| 16:09.28 | quitte | petemc: that doesn'T work for me |
| 16:09.29 | raf256` | Reptilutz: hm like ifconfig? and editing /etc/network/interfaces/ ? |
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| 16:09.33 | fausto | mmm excuse... |
| 16:09.38 | petemc | quitte: how so? |
| 16:09.39 | quitte | petemc: something about it trying to use devfs |
| 16:09.41 | fausto | sorry |
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| 16:09.57 | dhuv | similar message when I do modprobe snd-sb16 or snd-sbawe |
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| 16:10.03 | petemc | quitte: are using the debian xen packages also? |
| 16:10.12 | dhuv | could the card be busy? how do I know? |
| 16:10.19 | Reptilutz | 10x Supaplex |
| 16:10.30 | quitte | petemc: first it fails to mount /devfs then it cannot find the rootfs within /devfs/. yes im using only things from debian |
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| 16:11.09 | edmundo_v | does anyone here knows if when setting the SUID bit in a directory, the files created inside it should have the owner of the directory? |
| 16:11.24 | petemc | quitte: hmm, after a lot of messing about with custom compiled kernels and/or backports, i did an install from latest etch cd, upgraded to sid, install xen packages/kernel - worked first time |
| 16:11.33 | Linuturk | shit, terminal isn't accepting my root password |
| 16:11.44 | Linuturk | works fine opening apps out of synamptic |
| 16:11.52 | quitte | petemc: i guess its related to my rootfs being on lvm on raid |
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| 16:12.01 | petemc | quitte: i use lvm on software raid |
| 16:12.09 | quitte | petemc: and it works? |
| 16:12.13 | petemc | perfectly |
| 16:12.20 | quitte | petemc: how did you create the initrd? |
| 16:12.38 | Linuturk | what could cause terminal to reject a root password, but gnome will ? |
| 16:12.42 | petemc | quitte: mkintrd -o /boot/initrd.img 2.6.16-xen |
| 16:12.54 | quitte | petemc: you have / in the lvm also? |
| 16:13.06 | petemc | quitte: not for the dom0 |
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| 16:13.13 | petemc | just for the domUs |
| 16:13.39 | quitte | petemc: ok. no idea about domUs so far. so ill just assume thats the difference why it fails for me. |
| 16:14.05 | petemc | quitte: it should still work, the debian kernel has the support.. |
| 16:14.07 | Linuturk | do I have to add the limited user account to a sudoers file to be able to run sudo from it? |
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| 16:14.33 | quitte | petemc: yes. but for some reason devfs is disturbing. |
| 16:14.43 | blondie | Linuturk: you have to with any user dont you? |
| 16:14.58 | petemc | quitte: i had the same issues.. then doing what i described above worked fine |
| 16:15.02 | sohmestra | Linuturk: yes. if the user does not have an encompassing entry in sudoers, you can't use sudo |
| 16:15.19 | Linuturk | i figured it out, I think |
| 16:15.28 | Linuturk | i added the user group sudo to my user account |
| 16:15.36 | quitte | petemc: how does above change anything about devfs? |
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| 16:15.49 | quitte | petemc: maybe your kernel isn't latest from sid? |
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| 16:16.19 | petemc | quitte: 2.6.16-1-xen |
| 16:16.26 | petemc | i believe it is.. |
| 16:16.33 | snickel1650 | hey sorry, I was in here a while ago and got disconnected |
| 16:16.33 | Linuturk | sohmestra: is sudo su supported? |
| 16:16.35 | petemc | anywho, its pubtime - good luck |
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| 16:17.04 | snickel1650 | I'm trying to run KDE, but everytime I type in startx, I get an error |
| 16:17.10 | snickel1650 | unable to connect to X server |
| 16:17.21 | sohmestra | Linuturk: depending on your sudoers entry, yes. |
| 16:17.23 | quitte | petemc: and the version of the package? |
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| 16:17.39 | sohmestra | Linuturk: linturk ALL=(ALL) ALL will let you do that |
| 16:17.58 | quitte | petemc: here it is -12 |
| 16:18.03 | sohmestra | Linuturk: it will let tlinturk do anything, in fact. |
| 16:18.04 | Linuturk | sohmestra: I'm using the Users and Groups applet in gnome. Am I in the right section? |
| 16:18.23 | Linuturk | I need this account, called register, to be limited, but I'll need sudo at times |
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| 16:18.29 | Linuturk | when I'm using it |
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| 16:18.36 | snickel1650 | specifically "/usr/X11r6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: no such file or directory |
| 16:18.45 | snickel1650 | and /usr/X11r6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: no such file |
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| 16:19.00 | snickel1650 | giving up. / server error etc |
| 16:19.03 | sohmestra | Linuturk: I've never used the users/groups applet |
| 16:19.34 | Linuturk | gnome > Applications > System Tools > Users and Groups |
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| 16:20.10 | Sebboh | How do I tell whether my debian box is stable, unstable, or testing? Sorry, I just pulled it out from under my workbench, it's been a while. =) |
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| 16:20.18 | novata_peleona | can anybody tell me how to mount for enable written for user a remote vfat partitcion??mount -t smbfs //makina/datos_fat32 /mnt/makina_datos -o username=administrador,password=administrador |
| 16:20.45 | kspath | #samba? |
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| 16:21.01 | kspath | !tell novata_peleona about samba |
| 16:21.16 | [TechGuy] | Anyone have any experience with pam_ldap? I'm getting the "Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info." message in auth.log for an LDAP-only user account. Googling isn't helping really, and I can't find any difference in my config between FreeBSD (where it works) and my Etch box (where it doesn't) |
| 16:21.24 | Sebboh | !tell sebboh about debian |
| 16:21.39 | sohmestra | Linuturk: I don't think you can manage sudo from there |
| 16:21.48 | Linuturk | from terminal then? |
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| 16:22.08 | kspath | Sebboh: /msg dpkg debian |
| 16:22.08 | Linuturk | I'll have to log in as root first, right? |
| 16:22.14 | Zerial | novata_peleona, -o rw ? |
| 16:22.37 | Sebboh | thanks kspath. |
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| 16:22.56 | sohmestra | Linuturk: yes |
| 16:23.14 | daqqal | hey whats the name of that cli jpg viewer, it was vt something? |
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| 16:23.31 | kspath | daqqal: apt-cache search vt |
| 16:23.37 | Sebboh | kspath, can you tell me more about the different versions of debian? My /etc/debian_version says testing/unstable... Which is it? |
| 16:23.38 | Sourcey | what command would i use to install a kernel? |
| 16:23.42 | daqqal | it was not vt |
| 16:24.03 | Sebboh | daqqal, apt-cache search image|less |
| 16:24.03 | slept | novata_peleona, you dont mount partitions , you have to have shares/exports |
| 16:24.36 | daqqal | i'm on dos 4.01 |
| 16:24.56 | Sebboh | daqqal, norton commander? =P |
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| 16:24.59 | kspath | Sebboh: ask dpkg |
| 16:25.04 | novata_peleona | slept, ??? |
| 16:25.18 | daqqal | hahhahaha |
| 16:25.22 | Linuturk | sohmestra: ok, loggged in |
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| 16:25.24 | Linuturk | now what? |
| 16:25.26 | phyrster | which light windows manager has grid window feature? |
| 16:25.29 | Ryushin | Anyone know if ssh 1.4.3 packages exist for sarge yet? |
| 16:25.36 | kspath | Sebboh: /msg dpkg sarge /msg dpkg stable /msg dpkg etch /msg dpkg testing /msg dpkg sid /msg dpkg unstable |
| 16:25.43 | phyrster | light as fluxbox but with grid and some cute windows layout features? |
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| 16:26.07 | Ryushin | I want to start playing with the tunnel features of ssh. |
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| 16:26.09 | Sebboh | wait, I think I specified what dist to use in sources.conf... |
| 16:26.11 | jjazz | phyrster: What is grid window feature? |
| 16:26.16 | manuel_ | what linux-image correspond to AMD Mobile sempron? k7 ? |
| 16:26.33 | daqqal | found it |
| 16:26.35 | kspath | phyrster: Are you asking about ion3 or openbox3 or blackbox? |
| 16:26.36 | daqqal | it was zgv |
| 16:26.46 | daqqal | urpmi zgv |
| 16:26.49 | Sebboh | don't some semprons have 64-bit instructions? That'd be cool. |
| 16:27.01 | kspath | !tell Sebboh about sempron |
| 16:27.09 | Linuturk | !sudo |
| 16:27.09 | dpkg | methinks sudo is (SUperuser DO) better than su, according to talon.It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 16:27.27 | phyrster | jjazz: evenly fill multibox windows on a pager |
| 16:27.48 | jjazz | phyrster: Ah. |
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| 16:27.51 | phyrster | kspath: ion3 only has tabs, no grid, am I right? |
| 16:27.54 | manuel_ | !tell manuel_ about sempron |
| 16:28.00 | phyrster | kspath: which one do you use? |
| 16:28.02 | Ryushin | !tell Ryushin about sempron |
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| 16:28.31 | kspath | phyrster: ion3 and openbox3 |
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| 16:28.50 | phyrster | kspath: you ever used fluxbox? |
| 16:28.59 | Ryushin | manuel_: If it's a sempon with 64 bit extensions, it's a K8, other wise it's a K7. |
| 16:29.10 | kspath | phyrster: yes, I have no need of the "features" in/with it. |
| 16:29.12 | seb- | how come i stopped getting public key message when i do apt-get updates? |
| 16:29.25 | Sebboh | I'm pretty sure that some of the semprons shipped with 64-bit instruction set.. Depending on when it was manufactured, you might get lucky there. Still not much cache htough. |
| 16:29.28 | sohmestra | Linuturk: as root, do: EDITOR=nano visudo |
| 16:29.37 | mkrufky | What is the proper method to request a package version bump? |
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| 16:30.01 | kspath | mkrufky: What is a "bump"? |
| 16:30.02 | Sebboh | well kids it's been fun. peace. thanks kspath. |
| 16:30.06 | seb- | mkrufky: apt-get upgrade mypackage |
| 16:30.07 | manuel_ | Ryushin, is a Sempron 3000+ |
| 16:30.12 | phyrster | kspath: I want to use keyboard to manipulate windows but flux doesn't do it well. |
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| 16:30.27 | backz | why my 'who' is returning unable to execute /usr/bin/who: Input/output error? |
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| 16:30.30 | kspath | phyrster: ion3 and ratpoison are keyboard useful. |
| 16:31.05 | manuel_ | how can I get the repository PGP keys ? |
| 16:31.05 | phyrster | kspath: in openbox's page, I read it can support gnome and kde. how come? |
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| 16:31.30 | manuel_ | I have gnupg installed |
| 16:31.34 | mkrufky | seb-: ok, you misunderstood me.... I am saying, debian repositories have linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.0 , and I would like to request that the repositories update to the new version, 1.1.1 |
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| 16:32.02 | mkrufky | kspath: that's what gentoo and fedora folks call it... "bump" -- version upgrade |
| 16:32.08 | seb- | mkrufky: why are you worrying about sysadmining the repos? you can't do that |
| 16:32.19 | mkrufky | because i am a limnuxtv.org maintainer |
| 16:32.22 | mkrufky | linuxtv.org |
| 16:32.32 | mkrufky | and i want the new version to get out to the distros |
| 16:32.41 | seb- | mkrufky: oh, you are beyond my capabilities then ..sorry |
| 16:33.00 | mkrufky | my question is: WHO should i speak to, or where do i file such a request? |
| 16:33.07 | mkrufky | the other distros say to file a bug |
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| 16:33.15 | vulture | then do htat.. |
| 16:33.18 | vulture | bugs.debian.org |
| 16:33.44 | seb- | vulture: how come i stopped getting public key message when i do apt-get updates? |
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| 16:34.30 | colk | /msg dpkg key i think |
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| 16:34.40 | colk | or not |
| 16:34.59 | streuner | mkrufky: ask in #debian-mentors |
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| 16:35.14 | Linuturk | think I got it now |
| 16:35.16 | quitte | petemc: using upate-initrd instead of mkinitrd fixed it for me. |
| 16:35.26 | keosk10 | can anyone recommend a good installation guide for doing a double boot with XP and debian? |
| 16:35.33 | kspath | phyrster: You tell me. I am not here to explain window managers or anything else in detail. I will point some nicks to information/sources. |
| 16:35.34 | Linuturk | install xp first |
| 16:35.37 | Linuturk | then debian |
| 16:35.43 | MKR | I did that a while back with no trouble |
| 16:35.47 | mkrufky | streuner: thanks |
| 16:35.58 | keosk10 | should I leave a second partition unformatted or formatted in FAT32? |
| 16:36.33 | Linuturk | keosk10: if you want to have write access to the windows partition, make it FAT32 |
| 16:36.39 | Linuturk | leave the rest empty space |
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| 16:37.09 | keosk10 | ok thanks |
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| 16:37.23 | Linuturk | ok, i've got register in the sudoers file, but it's telling me I can't sudo anything |
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| 16:37.45 | Linuturk | I set register ALL=ALL(ALL) ALL |
| 16:37.48 | Suprano- | Hi.. i have problems using stunnel : http://paste.debian.net/6955 |
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| 16:38.44 | Linuturk | register == user account I'm trying to add sudo to |
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| 16:39.05 | sohmestra | Linuturk: try: register ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 16:39.19 | Linuturk | yeah, that's what I got, I mistyped |
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| 16:39.28 | Linuturk | o wait |
| 16:39.32 | Linuturk | lowercase L's |
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| 16:41.29 | [TechGuy] | Anyone have any experience with pam_ldap? I'm getting the "Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info." message in auth.log for an LDAP-only user account. Googling isn't helping really, and I can't find any difference in my config between FreeBSD (where it works) and my Etch box (where it doesn't) |
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| 16:42.29 | Linuturk | how do I set it to require a password for sudo for register? the root password. I tried Defaults:register runaspw |
| 16:42.30 | daqqal | hey what was that island that sank? they had some technology crap and stuff? |
| 16:42.36 | Linuturk | Atlantis |
| 16:42.37 | quitte | atlantis |
| 16:42.39 | daqqal | ah yes |
| 16:42.40 | daqqal | thanx |
| 16:42.41 | pdbogen | How would I go about redirecting a program's console output to syslog? (Is this even possible, barring editing the source code?) |
| 16:43.03 | sohmestra | Linuturk: the password it prompts for is the user's own password |
| 16:43.15 | sohmestra | Linuturk: not roots |
| 16:43.27 | Linuturk | right, but it didn't even ask for a password |
| 16:43.34 | Linuturk | and I want it to ask for the root password |
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| 16:43.55 | sohmestra | Linuturk: if you want the person to have the root password, why bother with sudo? |
| 16:43.58 | azeem | Linuturk: use su then |
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| 16:44.21 | Linuturk | i'm not giving them the root password. it's for my use when the machine is logged in as register |
| 16:44.25 | blondie | I'm annoyed that so many etch packages depend on sudo |
| 16:44.36 | Linuturk | so I don't have to log out when i need to do anything |
| 16:44.46 | Linuturk | and, sudo isn't asking for a password at all |
| 16:44.54 | sohmestra | Linuturk: then all you need is su |
| 16:45.15 | Coweater | sudo has a timeout by default, it won't request the password during that time |
| 16:45.22 | sohmestra | Linuturk: sudo lets you stay "authenticated" for a short period after you successfully sudo |
| 16:45.34 | Linuturk | it didn't request a passworded at all |
| 16:45.40 | daqqal | hey that reminds me, i just installed a server with x86_64 and i saw etch for the first time in the sources file, what is that? i only used stable and testing, so i changed the etch to testing |
| 16:45.40 | Linuturk | not even the first time |
| 16:45.47 | epictetus | did you guys know that Rick Moranis is a country singer now? |
| 16:45.54 | azeem | Linuturk: then you set /etc/sudoers to NOPASSWD for your account, maybe |
| 16:46.01 | sohmestra | Linuturk: do you have a NOPASSWORD directive in sudoers? |
| 16:46.01 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: did you define a rule using 'NOPASSWD:'? |
| 16:46.16 | zood_ | I seem to be having various problems related to the error: `Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"`. What do I need to do to fix this? (running sarge) |
| 16:46.19 | Linuturk | no |
| 16:46.21 | Linuturk | I didn't |
| 16:46.23 | daqqal | you mean rick martin? that big flaming sodomite? |
| 16:46.29 | Linuturk | here are the commands I added |
| 16:46.38 | Linuturk | Defaults:register runaspw |
| 16:46.49 | Linuturk | register ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 16:46.53 | Linuturk | only those two |
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| 16:46.56 | Linuturk | in visudo |
| 16:47.15 | Linuturk | http://aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html << going by that page |
| 16:47.18 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: run 'sudo -K' as your normal user, then try sudoing something again |
| 16:47.25 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: it should ask for a password |
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| 16:47.46 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: if it does not, something in your sudo configuration or machine setup is telling it that you don't need one |
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| 16:48.48 | Linuturk | works, thanks man |
| 16:49.02 | Linuturk | now I have to do sudo -K after I finish using sudo huh? |
| 16:49.07 | Noboru | night ,all |
| 16:49.11 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: then it did ask for a password the first time you ran it. your timeout had not expired from the last time you entered your password. |
| 16:49.14 | petn-randall | night ? |
| 16:49.22 | Ronin | petn-randall: it may be |
| 16:49.47 | petn-randall | I guess so, somewhere |
| 16:49.52 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: the timestamp will last for 15 minutes, after which you will need to enter your password again |
| 16:49.55 | Linuturk | i didn't set a default time out, i guess |
| 16:50.00 | petn-randall | Ronin: it's 7 here ;) |
| 16:50.09 | Linuturk | or, i can shorten that, right? |
| 16:50.09 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: the default timeout is 15 minutes if you do not specify one |
| 16:50.16 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: yes, man sudoers |
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| 16:50.59 | Linuturk | timestamp_timeout=5 sets a 5 minute timeout |
| 16:51.00 | Linuturk | right> |
| 16:51.05 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: you could also put 'sudo -K' in your ~/.bash_logout to force the timestamp to disappear when you logout |
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| 16:51.17 | blondie | is there something that will show dependencies for a package? |
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| 16:51.25 | SerajewelKS | blondie: apt-cache show packagename |
| 16:51.25 | lepton | blondie: yes |
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| 16:51.56 | blondie | and not just direct dependencies |
| 16:51.58 | Linuturk | thanks |
| 16:52.00 | Linuturk | l8r |
| 16:52.04 | sohmestra | blondie: apt-cache depends |
| 16:52.05 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: note that this will clobber the timestamp when you logout from anywhere, so if you're maintaining two sessions and you log out, you will need to reauthenticate on the other session |
| 16:52.07 | secher | Does the MAC address get sent across the 'Net if there is not a firewall involved? |
| 16:52.21 | morganew | question related to aptitude: I am trying to remove the exim4 package. I use the "-" key, it shows me the dependency breaks, I hit the letter "g" and it tells me that there is nothing to install or remove! as soon as I hit "g" the remove seems to be removed from the exim pacakge |
| 16:52.24 | SerajewelKS | Linuturk: this is often only a minor inconvenience however |
| 16:52.25 | secher | or does it get stripped out before the packet is routed? |
| 16:52.32 | Linuturk | I'd rather have to put in my password again instead of leaving the system open |
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| 16:52.43 | SerajewelKS | secher: the MAC address is unique to each hop |
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| 16:53.05 | FarrisG | Can anyone give me a usable solution to printing from AcroRead to a PostScript network printer? I can print to it fine using any gnome-friendly app that will see my cups printers, but AcroRead wants me to specify a command to run, and I can't get lp/lpr or anything to print properly through my cups-enabled printers. Is there some sort of wrapper that will take lp commands and send them through cups? |
| 16:53.09 | SerajewelKS | secher: when it reaches the next hop, whether it be your router or ISP, the packet will come "from" their MAC address until it reaches the next hop |
| 16:53.19 | SerajewelKS | secher: each hop only sees the last hop's MAC |
| 16:53.35 | secher | SerajewelKS: so if I'm sending a packet to some system 5 hops away, my my.. Ok, thanks much. |
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| 16:53.48 | SerajewelKS | secher: that's how ethernet routing works |
| 16:54.24 | SerajewelKS | secher: in short the only systems that can see your MAC are the ones that you are directly connected to. unless, of course, some application gets your MAC and sends it in, say, TCP. |
| 16:54.37 | blondie | is there something to show "reverse dependencies"? |
| 16:54.47 | SerajewelKS | blondie: apt-cache rdepends (i think) |
| 16:54.50 | sohmestra | FarrisG: try apt-get install cupsys-bsd |
| 16:54.59 | SerajewelKS | blondie: man apt-cache, likely it's in there |
| 16:55.01 | pdbogen | I should totally copyright "sequences of random bits." |
| 16:55.15 | morganew | am I better off NOT using aptitude? I know how to remove with apt-get.... |
| 16:55.30 | kspath | !tell FarrisG about cupsys |
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| 16:55.41 | blondie | fgs |
| 16:55.42 | sohmestra | morganew: aptitude remove <package> |
| 16:55.51 | blondie | I want to remove sudo but loads of crap depends on it |
| 16:55.53 | FarrisG | sohmestra & kspath: I've already got cupsys installed. It works fine. That doesn't answer my question |
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| 16:56.25 | morganew | sohmestra: tried that as well, it goes through the motions, but nothing is removed. it's as iff things with the "A" flag cannot be removed normally. |
| 16:56.26 | SerajewelKS | blondie: hmm, iirc apt-cache rdepends shows all reverse dependencies, not just installed ones |
| 16:56.27 | VolVE | hey all, another noobish question: I have some directories in dir1 that are partial copies of directories in dir2, when I try and mv the dir1 contents to dir2, it says "cannot overwrite directory: XYZ" for each one - is there any way to force it to merge them so I only have dir2 with complete contents? :-/ |
| 16:56.32 | sohmestra | FarrisG: cupsys is not cupsys-bsd. cupsys-bsd supplies all the bsd printing utility commands that work with cupsys |
| 16:56.55 | sohmestra | FarrisG: could you describe the problem more fully? |
| 16:57.00 | kspath | VolVE: man mv ; man cp; man rm |
| 16:57.14 | morganew | BTWm the help doesn't say what the "A" flag means, but I am assumeing it means auto-update, since I cnag change it with "m" to try and force it to manual. |
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| 16:59.32 | FarrisG | sohmestra: The problem is simple: I can print to my printer just fine from OO.org, gedit, etc. But anything that requires me to provide an actual command in order to print does not seem to work. I get no errrors, and jobs are supposedly sent to the printers, but nothing shows up in the qeues and nothing prints. |
| 17:02.43 | sohmestra | FarrisG: what does lpstat or lpq show you? |
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| 17:03.30 | FarrisG | sohmestra: They both show nothing, before during or after I submit a job. I can't find decent doc or man on cupsys-bsd |
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| 17:03.36 | fberger | Hi, |
| 17:03.36 | fberger | did anybody else's x fonts break, after the dist-upgrade? It's especially visible in KDE, the fonts have this blur |
| 17:03.37 | marcel__ | hello |
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| 17:04.05 | marcel__ | in debian sid, what changed with vim? it seems to be behaving differently |
| 17:04.34 | Sparticus | hi, is it possible to give a server multiple ip's with just one nic or do i need an nic per ip? |
| 17:04.41 | kspath | !tell marcel__ about bts |
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| 17:04.59 | kspath | fberger: http://wiki.debian.org/Status might have something for you |
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| 17:05.16 | marcel__ | kspath, its not a bug, but vim is reacting differently to cursor keys for instance, it seems to be pure vi, not what i used to have |
| 17:05.24 | Suprano- | stunnel trhows me this error: 2006.05.24 20:07:45 LOG6[7052:16384]: Negotiated ciphers: DES-CBC3-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=3DES(168) Mac=SHA1 |
| 17:05.26 | Suprano- | 2006.05.24 20:07:45 LOG3[7052:16384]: read: Input/output error (5) |
| 17:05.42 | fberger | kspath: thanks , but I already looked through the wiki pages before asking |
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| 17:06.19 | kspath | fberger: Did you check for bugs or report the bug? |
| 17:06.26 | sohmestra | SerajewelKS: for x in `apt-cache rdepends libc6 |grep '^ '`; do apt-cache policy $x; done |grep Installed |grep -v '(none)' |
| 17:06.40 | sohmestra | SerajewelKS: that should show all installed rdepends |
| 17:06.44 | fberger | kspath: not sure yet, which package's the culprit |
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| 17:07.00 | fberger | but I found something on the wiki after searching for fonts |
| 17:07.03 | kspath | fberger: Knowing the question is a good start. |
| 17:07.04 | fberger | http://wiki.debian.org/FontFAQ?highlight=%28font%29 |
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| 17:07.17 | VolVE | thanks kspath... |
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| 17:08.54 | [ADB] | alguem fala portugues? |
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| 17:09.12 | kspath | !tell [ADB] about br |
| 17:09.15 | kspath | !tell [ADB] about pt |
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| 17:09.25 | zinosat | is mindterm available in etch / sid? can't find it |
| 17:09.29 | Laibsch | Can anybody tell me how I can get my Siemens Gigaset WLAN card (Atmel chip) to scan for Access Points? iwspy and iwlist scanning say that eth1 where the card resides does not support scanning or statistics collection. |
| 17:09.54 | Sparticus | hi, is it possible to give a server multiple ip's with just one nic or do i need an nic per ip? |
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| 17:09.56 | Usiu | Hi |
| 17:10.08 | kspath | zinosat: apt-cache search keyword;apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search keyword |
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| 17:10.15 | Usiu | I am looking for a wireless card (PCMCIA) for laptop..Any help ? |
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| 17:10.25 | Usiu | I dont know what card is supported... |
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| 17:10.33 | Usiu | And what card I should buy. |
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| 17:10.37 | blondie | good question |
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| 17:10.54 | Laibsch | Sparticus: it is possible to have more than one ip per nic. I think you need to look for "alias" |
| 17:10.57 | sohmestra | Laibsch: the driver for that card's chipset has to support a certain mode of operation. if it doesn't, it just won't work. |
| 17:11.04 | tralala | Usiu: why not an usb one? |
| 17:11.18 | Sparticus | Laibsch - im asking for dns puroses you see |
| 17:11.22 | Sparticus | purposes* |
| 17:11.34 | sohmestra | Laibsch: it sounds like the driver doesn't support the necessary operation |
| 17:11.46 | Laibsch | sohmestra: Do you know how I find out? What mode of operation? |
| 17:11.47 | Sparticus | so i can assign my server 2 ip's ns1.domain.com and ns2.domain.com |
| 17:11.56 | zinosat | kspath, that's what I've tried:it didn't give any match |
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| 17:12.08 | Laibsch | sohmestra: How would you connect to an unknown access point then? |
| 17:12.35 | Laibsch | Sparticus: I have never done this so I cannot help you with specifics. |
| 17:12.46 | Sparticus | ok ta anyway |
| 17:13.25 | sohmestra | Laibsch: monitor mode |
| 17:13.31 | POVaddct | Usiu: get a card which is supported by the madwifi driver |
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| 17:13.56 | sohmestra | Laibsch: ah. I think I misunderstood you. Active scanning is different, I believe |
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| 17:14.33 | zood_ | POVaddct; yes but easier said than done. I bought about 3 wireless cards before I found one that worked reasonable easily |
| 17:14.41 | Usiu | POVaddct, Is there any site or list of recommended cards for linux that works well and are new so they can detect hiden AP and supports WPA without upgrading firmware ? |
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| 17:14.53 | Laibsch | sohmestra: Seems that indeed the atmel does not have monitor mode. |
| 17:15.13 | Laibsch | Well, I also have a CF based WLAN card. |
| 17:15.23 | Laibsch | But I just could not get that to work |
| 17:15.23 | POVaddct | Usiu: look at the madwifi webpage. it lists cards with atheros chipsets. |
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| 17:16.28 | zood_ | I've got an atheros card using madwifi driver and I can't seem to even do stuff like iwlist |
| 17:16.42 | POVaddct | zood_: huh? |
| 17:16.44 | Laibsch | sohmestra: OK, so what do I do to connect to an AP (not talking about war driving!) |
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| 17:16.57 | Pegasusflyke | hey all, have a problem |
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| 17:17.08 | Pegasusflyke | I want to install debian via netinstall from a usb stick |
| 17:17.12 | Usiu | POVaddct, is madwifi thew new technology ? |
| 17:17.21 | [ADB] | how can i install more things using shell? |
| 17:17.23 | POVaddct | zood_: my d-link dwl g-650 (rev c) works perfectly with the madwifi driver |
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| 17:17.34 | POVaddct | Usiu: no, madwifi is just a driver name |
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| 17:17.50 | blondie | [ADB]: apt. |
| 17:17.56 | Pegasusflyke | read the tutorial @ http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s04.html.de, but if i put in my usb stick and start the pc theres a error message |
| 17:18.23 | zood_ | POVaddct, yah wireless cards are the most flakey and annoying thing I've come across in linux. The vendors like to sell cards with identical names despite the fact that the chipset might be different |
| 17:18.52 | POVaddct | zood_: see? it's the vendor's fault. not linux's. |
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| 17:19.02 | zood_ | POVaddct, absolutely |
| 17:19.10 | zood_ | Still it's damn annoying |
| 17:19.15 | POVaddct | zood_: yep |
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| 17:19.48 | zood_ | Probably a major factor in holding back adoption of linux. Nobody want to learn how to recompile a kernel just so they can check their email |
| 17:19.49 | [ADB] | i'm newbie. how can i use apt on a shell? |
| 17:20.12 | zood_ | [ADB]: apt-get install <packagename> |
| 17:20.15 | azeem | [ADB]: use aptitude help |
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| 17:20.50 | [ADB] | but how can i see a list of package? |
| 17:20.55 | redphoenix1 | any one know when the i915 drivers will be back? |
| 17:21.02 | Pegasusflyke | I read the tutorial @ http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s04.html.de to install debian via netinstall from a usb stick, but if i put in my usb stick and start the pc theres a error message: non-system disk or disk error! whats wrong? |
| 17:21.05 | petn-randall | speeking of apt, can someone explain me the relationship between apt and dpkg ? |
| 17:21.06 | tralala | [ADB]: type aptitude, then hit ? |
| 17:21.09 | zood_ | [ADB]: apt-cache search foo |
| 17:21.12 | Ronin | [ADB]: packages.degian.org as well |
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| 17:21.14 | POVaddct | zood_: ralink 24xx based pci/cardbus cards and ralink 2570 based usb cards are also good wlan cards |
| 17:21.15 | pdbogen | Pegasusflyke : Not all systems can boot from USB devices? |
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| 17:21.37 | zood_ | pdbogen: correct |
| 17:21.37 | Pegasusflyke | yeah, but in bios i can choose to boot from usb |
| 17:21.42 | pdbogen | petn-randall : Apt is like a front-end to dpkg, but a bit more. dpkg handles the basic task of installing and removing packages. Apt resolves dependencies and whatnot. |
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| 17:22.06 | pdbogen | petn-randall : More specifically, apt handles fetching packages, calculating and fetching dependencies, etc. |
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| 17:22.17 | POVaddct | zood_: i have a ralink 2570 based usb "stick" (also a d-link) and it runs quite good with the rt2570 module |
| 17:22.22 | petn-randall | pdbogen: because apt-get and dselect seem to keep different lists of available packages |
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| 17:22.34 | Pegasusflyke | pdbogen: yeah, but in bios i can choose to boot from usb |
| 17:22.43 | POVaddct | zood_: the card is called dwl-g122 |
| 17:22.54 | cureless | petn-randall: don't use dselect. |
| 17:23.23 | petn-randall | cureless: yeah ... it is a pain ... but I like it more than aptitude |
| 17:23.30 | POVaddct | zood_: but it must be hardware rev b, otherwise it's not ralink, prism-usb |
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| 17:23.43 | cureless | petn-randall: how come? |
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| 17:23.50 | Pegasusflyke | must the usb stick in and mounted when i do zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sda ? |
| 17:23.55 | POVaddct | gotta go |
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| 17:24.01 | [ADB] | thanks |
| 17:24.18 | Pegasusflyke | well he must be in the pc, but must it mounted before i do the zcat thing? |
| 17:24.30 | blondie | he? |
| 17:24.32 | tralala | Pegasusflyke: no |
| 17:24.46 | blondie | don't put people inside PCs, Pegasusflyke |
| 17:24.48 | Pegasusflyke | hmm maybe thats the problem |
| 17:24.52 | Pegasusflyke | hehe |
| 17:24.59 | Pegasusflyke | i'm german :P |
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| 17:25.11 | petn-randall | cureless: I have a server with only ssh access, and I got used to dselect ... never understood the handling of aptitude |
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| 17:25.16 | Pegasusflyke | cost me a lot of nervs the silly little thing |
| 17:25.30 | pdbogen | petn-randall : Aptitude works in console, too. |
| 17:25.51 | tralala | petn-randall: it's not too hard once you read the docs |
| 17:25.55 | cureless | petn-randall: well, do what suits you. But aptitude is cleaner and more in touch with reality. (I don't use it, I only use apt) |
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| 17:26.24 | petn-randall | sounds as though I should drop dselect like a hot potato :) |
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| 17:26.39 | Laibsch | OK, my CF WLAN card seems to work miraculously now. It only worked in my Linux PDA previously. Now I can do the scan from my laptop as well. |
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| 17:27.11 | cureless | petn-randall: but if you're one of those few people that know all of dselects tricks, write them down before you forget. It'll be like a piece of history. |
| 17:27.12 | randey | I am trying to install dpkg -i bluez-utils_2.25.deb, which is failing at executing MAKEDEV. Is there any way to install it? |
| 17:27.27 | zood_ | I think the error `Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"` is giving me jumpy video playback. I've installed xlibmesa-dri which is the only package I can find that might be related. What am I missing? |
| 17:27.36 | cureless | randey: where did you get it from? what version of debian are you using? |
| 17:27.39 | junix|work | where is the mysql_config file? |
| 17:27.43 | petn-randall | cureless: hehe :) |
| 17:27.59 | tralala | junix|work: dpkg -L nameofmysqlpackage |
| 17:28.02 | randey | cureless: its sid, I ran apt-get update |
| 17:28.24 | cureless | randey: so it's just apt updating bluez? |
| 17:28.40 | Usiu | randey, apt-get install bluez-utils |
| 17:29.00 | Usiu | randey, not dpkg |
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| 17:29.16 | randey | cureless : When I do apt-get update ; apt-get install bluez-utils it is showing same error |
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| 17:29.29 | MariusX | hello ppl. I just upgraded my Dist of Debian from sarge to testing and my boot loader now only has linux as an option. how to I edit that so I can still duel boot into windows? |
| 17:29.33 | tralala | zood_: do you have xvideo? xvinfo will let you know |
| 17:29.40 | cureless | randey: maybe there's a bug in the current package. |
| 17:29.46 | Usiu | randey, maybe sth wrong with udev |
| 17:29.47 | pdbogen | MariusX : Are you using GRuB or LiLo? |
| 17:29.51 | Usiu | randey, or bug in package.. |
| 17:29.55 | petn-randall | bye everyone |
| 17:29.57 | randey | Usiu: I manually tried from /var/cache/apt/bluez-utils-xxx.deb |
| 17:29.59 | MariusX | Grub |
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| 17:30.12 | sepski | MariusX, just add a windows stanca _OUTSIDE_ of the automatic debian kernels. |
| 17:30.23 | Usiu | randey, but I use new bluez-utils without problem. but I had installed previous version before upgrading... so it wasnt first time it was installed.. |
| 17:30.26 | cureless | "duel boot", hehe. |
| 17:30.35 | pdbogen | MariusX : Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add some lines like: title Windows \n root (whatever) \n chainloder +1 |
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| 17:30.56 | pdbogen | MariusX : Where, of course, (whateveR) is the proper hdN,M bit to point to the Windows partition. |
| 17:31.00 | zood_ | tralala: I don't think I have xvideo. xvinfo just gives errors including `xvinfo: Unable to open display :0.0` |
| 17:31.02 | randey | Usiu : it is postinstallation MAKEDEV error |
| 17:31.12 | Usiu | randey, I dont get it.. |
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| 17:31.18 | randey | Usiu: I thing I have to upgrade devfs package |
| 17:31.29 | Usiu | randey, You're using devfs !?! |
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| 17:31.52 | tralala | zood_: run it in an X terminal as the user that has the X session. |
| 17:31.52 | cureless | randey: do you have non-deb packages? |
| 17:32.05 | randey | Usiu: no |
| 17:32.13 | MariusX | how can I check the HD and mount? is there a command to show partitions ? |
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| 17:32.27 | Usiu | randey, so why did you say upgrade devfs? |
| 17:32.55 | zood_ | tralala: $ xvinfo |
| 17:32.56 | zood_ | Xlib: extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 17:32.56 | zood_ | xvinfo: No X-Video Extension on :0. |
| 17:33.01 | cureless | MariusX: fdisk -l /dev/disk or mount or df, depending on your needs. |
| 17:33.12 | tralala | zood_: this is the reason your playback is jumpy |
| 17:33.23 | randey | Usiu: cureless: it must be related to package which creates device files |
| 17:33.34 | zood_ | tralala: hmmm I suspected as much but not sure how to fix |
| 17:33.38 | tralala | zood_: are you using an nvidia card? |
| 17:34.00 | randey | Usiu: what is the package responsiblie for creating devices in sid? |
| 17:34.10 | Usiu | randey, makedev and udev |
| 17:34.18 | zood_ | tralala: it's a wierd laptop video card: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 (rev 82) |
| 17:34.29 | randey | Usiu: I got the package installed |
| 17:34.51 | tralala | zood_: and your debian version is? |
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| 17:35.13 | zood_ | tralala: sarge |
| 17:35.30 | Usiu | randey, what version of bluez-utils ? |
| 17:35.42 | Usiu | randey, I have no problem with 2.25-1 |
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| 17:36.17 | randey | Usiu: it is 2.25-1 |
| 17:36.41 | tralala | zood_: which is the X driver for this card/ |
| 17:37.17 | zood_ | tralala: which am I using or which is supposed to be used? |
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| 17:37.49 | tralala | zood_: which one are you using |
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| 17:38.25 | HolyCow | if I compile everything I need into the kernel (not modules), can I skip the initrd? |
| 17:38.39 | zood_ | tralala: do I look in XF86Config-4 for this info or is there another way? |
| 17:38.44 | cureless | HolyCow: probably. |
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| 17:39.02 | tralala | zood_: yes, the config |
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| 17:39.45 | zood_ | tralala: under `Section "Screen"` I've got `Device "tridentdevice"` |
| 17:39.46 | tralala | zood_: which video player are you using? |
| 17:40.02 | grendal_prime | how the fk do you connect an xp machine to a webdav folder...?? |
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| 17:40.17 | grendal_prime | all the samples i find on google are not working for these people. |
| 17:40.26 | snickel1650 | hi, I'm doing a double installation of XP and debian |
| 17:40.32 | grendal_prime | and i dont have an xp machine here to try it on. |
| 17:40.33 | tralala | zood_: I need the "driver" line from section "device" |
| 17:40.34 | zood_ | tralala: I've tried a bunch of different ones (xine, mplayer, noatun, kaboodle). I would prefer to use xine. |
| 17:40.42 | snickel1650 | for my linux setup, should I choose ext3 or FAT32? |
| 17:40.51 | cureless | grendal_prime: I assume your problem is with the windows machine, ask in a windows forum... or install debian and problem solved. |
| 17:40.58 | zood_ | tralala: Driver "trident" |
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| 17:41.06 | tralala | zood_: mplayer has a special driver for cyberblade and I think you're going to get good results only with this one |
| 17:41.12 | cureless | snickel1650: chances are you want ext3. |
| 17:41.26 | tralala | zood_: try this: mplayer -v -vo xvidix:cyberblade_vid.so |
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| 17:41.27 | snickel1650 | will I be able to access ext3 in windows? |
| 17:41.28 | kspath | !cureless++ |
| 17:41.42 | cureless | snickel1650: probably not. |
| 17:42.01 | snickel1650 | is there any harm in choosing FAT32 for the linux setup then? |
| 17:42.36 | cureless | snickel1650: if what you want is to share some data you might want to create a partition for that, but keep the main linux install in ext3. |
| 17:42.43 | grendal_prime | cureless, ?? i dont have a windows machine i only have debian machines... |
| 17:42.50 | snickel1650 | ok thanks for the advice |
| 17:42.52 | tralala | snickel1650: fat32 doesn't support a lot of things that debian needs. I haven't heard of someone using it. |
| 17:42.57 | cureless | grendal_prime: so what's your problem with windows and webdav? |
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| 17:43.11 | grendal_prime | i want these people with xp to be able to GET to the webdav folders.. |
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| 17:43.40 | cureless | grendal_prime: chances are the problem is not with the webdav server. |
| 17:43.46 | grendal_prime | im just wondering if anyone has had the problem of webav not being compatible with xp. |
| 17:44.00 | zood_ | tralala: can't find codecs.conf. I can pastebin the full output if you want |
| 17:44.16 | grendal_prime | im sure its not webdav...have you ever had a user ask you how to connect there xpmachine to your webdav server? |
| 17:44.32 | cureless | grendal_prime: nope, but I've done linux and macs. |
| 17:44.35 | tralala | zood_: go ahead. Together with the command you've typed. |
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| 17:45.21 | grendal_prime | http://www.ed.uiuc.edu/oet/network/webdavwinXP.html |
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| 17:45.32 | grendal_prime | that is supposed to be the way..now for some reason that is not working |
| 17:45.54 | zood_ | tralala: http://pastebin.com/735458 |
| 17:45.56 | grendal_prime | ya cureless i use kde's konq to connect..cause it understands the webdav protocol |
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| 17:46.25 | grendal_prime | its simple to do..but alot of things are simple in linux like that...windows is a piece of shit when it comes things like this. |
| 17:46.30 | cureless | grendal_prime: all I was saying is that you might not find that much windows support here, given that the problem is with windows and not your webdav server. |
| 17:46.40 | grendal_prime | just figured id ask |
| 17:46.55 | grendal_prime | i mean alot of us have to support uses on those legacy systems... |
| 17:47.00 | tralala | zood_: give it a file to play. Check if mplayer has been compiled with xvidix support (mplayer -vo help) |
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| 17:47.49 | cureless | zood_: did you compile mplayer? |
| 17:48.11 | zood_ | cureless: no, I'm using the sarge package |
| 17:48.21 | cureless | zood_: by sarge you mean marillat? |
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| 17:49.18 | yohu123 | is anyone here that can help me? |
| 17:49.30 | tralala | !anyone |
| 17:49.30 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:49.51 | zood_ | cureless: Yes I suppose you're right. Didn't realize it was coming from there |
| 17:50.20 | zood_ | tralala: output of mplayer -vo help: http://pastebin.com/735464 |
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| 17:50.59 | yohu123 | i wish i didnt have to because nobody answers....does anyone know how to mount the ipod's linux partition in colinux debian? |
| 17:51.22 | tralala | zood_: good, you do have xvidix. Now play something. Xvidix needs root priviledges. |
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| 17:51.57 | snickel1650 | I'm going through my debian installation right now.. I originally wanted to use the minimum CD installation and just d/l everything off the internet, but I had problems with that, so I burned the DVD isos |
| 17:52.03 | snickel1650 | for some reason they wouldn't boot |
| 17:52.19 | snickel1650 | so now I'm using the min. install CD and have gotten to the Apt configuration |
| 17:52.23 | insidius | what can i say debian just kicks arse |
| 17:52.27 | snickel1650 | can I choose the access method to be cdrom |
| 17:52.32 | snickel1650 | and pop the DVD in? |
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| 17:53.11 | tralala | snickel1650: install the base system. It will ask you if you have cdroms, then put the dvds - they will be scanned and you can use them happily ever after. |
| 17:53.13 | yohu123 | well tralala, see what i mean? |
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| 17:53.36 | abrotman | !gijoe |
| 17:53.36 | zood_ | tralala: are you saying I should run mplayer as root? |
| 17:53.40 | abrotman | :( |
| 17:53.41 | tralala | yohu123: it seems that nobody knows |
| 17:54.01 | yohu123 | :( |
| 17:54.13 | Ronin | or at least no one who's in currently |
| 17:54.18 | tralala | zood_: yes, with the -vo xvidix:blah-blah (see above) |
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| 17:54.26 | rem_ | anyone knows what this means in syslog: "VFS: busy inodes on changed media" .. |
| 17:54.32 | mick_work | how do I get mod_alias for apache2 (I've searched w/ apt-cache but I don't see anything matching "alias") |
| 17:54.45 | abrotman | isn't it built in now? |
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| 17:55.02 | tralala | rem_: did you take a removable media out without unmounting it first? |
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| 17:55.37 | snickel1650 | tralala: I get a message that says that there is no usable CD in the drive (its a DVD) should I just try using http again instead? |
| 17:55.38 | rem_ | no....and it wouldnt let me if i tried ... Maybe something not mounted right with the zip drive ... ? |
| 17:55.44 | erps | ... Is the splitting of configuration files into innumerable itty bitty bits within Debian done for the benefit of some GUI configuration tool? If so, what is that tool? And if so, is there a version of that tool available for the shell that's not dependent on X? |
| 17:56.12 | tralala | snickel1650: did you check the contents of the discs after you burned them? |
| 17:56.13 | cureless | erps: what files are you talking about? |
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| 17:56.35 | insidius | mick-work try /join #apache |
| 17:56.44 | snickel1650 | should I still be able to read the contents in XP? |
| 17:56.45 | mick_work | abrotman: what is the name (shouldn't it be alias?) |
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| 17:56.59 | mick_work | abrotman: I'm talking about in mods-available |
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| 17:57.23 | mick_work | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libapache2-mod&searchon=name&subword=1&version=all&release=all doesn't show any package, so I'm hoping that it is builtin |
| 17:57.29 | tralala | snickel1650: yes |
| 17:57.42 | zood_ | tralala: http://pastebin.com/735479 |
| 17:58.08 | cureless | mick_home: what does mod_alias do? Isn't that in apache already? |
| 17:58.08 | roderyk | new thinkpad here, I burned the "Rescue recovery discs" from the XP partition. Does this replace the 4GB partition for recovery? (I would like to remove the partitions, and put Debian on it. But I need to be able to restore to factory defaults). So is the recovery discs enough? Or should I know something else before I trash the XP partitions? |
| 17:58.17 | tralala | zood_: install sux |
| 17:58.27 | mick_work | RedirectPermanent doesn't work for me |
| 17:58.28 | cureless | roderyk: as far as I know yes. |
| 17:58.44 | snickel1650 | tralala: yeah, both the discs are bad |
| 17:58.49 | snickel1650 | I'll try http for now |
| 17:58.50 | roderyk | cureless: ok, let's hope so :) |
| 17:59.01 | snickel1650 | can I go back later and try burning DVDs aagain if I need to? |
| 17:59.10 | erps | cureless, "Configuration Files".. I'm pretty sure I defined that in my question.... Further specificity includes: /etc/apache2/ which separates the config into several smaller files. /etc/exim4/ which separates the configuration in ways that are quite.. amazing (yes, I realize I can collapse the files).. and pretty much /etc/<insert major package name with large files>.. . Which all leads to the thought that there must be some GU |
| 17:59.10 | erps | I management tool for all of these.. |
| 17:59.21 | mick_work | cureless: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_alias.html#redirectpermanent |
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| 17:59.31 | chump | hey i'm having trouble dvdbackup ing a dvd its says * No css library available. See ** |
| 17:59.31 | chump | ** /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian ** |
| 17:59.32 | chump | ** for more information. ** |
| 17:59.48 | tralala | snickel1650: yes |
| 17:59.57 | cureless | erps: well, there are many many configuration files, just saying that doesn't really mean much. did you mean kde3 and gnome and gnupg too? |
| 18:00.20 | johnynek | I just did a dist-upgrade on sid, and could not boot or start X afterword. |
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| 18:00.32 | cureless | erps: now to answer your question, the most likely reason is for package management. So that it is easy to install and remove packages that interact with each other. That way they just need to add their files and not modify a file. |
| 18:00.35 | kspath | !tell johnynek about sid |
| 18:00.38 | johnynek | It seems like udevd had some problems (which I could not find in the log). |
| 18:01.06 | cureless | erps: debian is not really known for "gui" management tools. |
| 18:01.12 | johnynek | And X is wonky. |
| 18:01.12 | mick_work | found it! vhost_alias.load |
| 18:01.31 | johnynek | kspath, thanks for the tip, I have been running sid for about 4 years. |
| 18:01.37 | zood_ | tralala: sux installed |
| 18:01.51 | johnynek | just because it breaks doesn't mean I don't want to fix it. |
| 18:02.01 | tralala | zood_: use it to switch to root and run mplayer again |
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| 18:02.58 | krang | Hey hey, if I'm trying to set up LDAP, should I apt-get libsasl2 or libsasl2-dev? |
| 18:03.01 | grendal_prime | by the way cureless turned out to be idiot on the other end....monkey enduser was not putting in the address i gave him but the address in the howto!!! |
| 18:03.09 | pdbogen | krang : Unless you're compiling, just libsasl2. |
| 18:03.14 | johnynek | Is anyone else have problems with X(org) using a radeon with the xorg in sid? (7.0.19) |
| 18:03.16 | cureless | grendal_prime: heh, we should have guessed. |
| 18:03.17 | erps | cureless, nor for logical config management to a neophyte coming from another linux flavor. gentoo/lfs - no problem, I understand most programs standard config layouts.. debian - <insert befuddlement & excess searching for how to do something I already know how to do under a standard config> |
| 18:03.21 | krang | pdbogen: cheers |
| 18:03.35 | krang | pdbogen: would it hurt to install both? |
| 18:03.45 | grendal_prime | he mised the part about "change information to match what systemadmin has given you" |
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| 18:04.17 | grendal_prime | well cureless i was thinking the same thing i just wanted to make sure that it was even possible ... |
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| 18:04.23 | erps | cureless, anyway, thanks :) YAGNI strikes again: http://xp.c2.com/YouArentGonnaNeedIt.html |
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| 18:04.28 | pdbogen | krang : Nope. |
| 18:04.28 | zood_ | tralala: better, now I get an mplayer window that flashes green and pink. I can even get a green and pink flashing in fullscreen |
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| 18:04.49 | yipstar | hi, I'm trying to install debian on an XServe |
| 18:04.54 | grendal_prime | i have had things STOP working because of some crazy ass "security" patch that ms has issued. |
| 18:04.55 | yipstar | i'm stalling on a White Screen |
| 18:05.03 | yipstar | must not support my video card huh |
| 18:05.11 | cureless | erps: believe me the debian way is good, you'll get used to it and it is amazingly useful for upgrading. |
| 18:05.13 | krang | pdbogen: rightho, both it is then. thanks! |
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| 18:05.20 | tralala | zood_: yeah, these cards do suck. Try decreasing the resolution of the display. It should help. |
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| 18:07.33 | grendal_prime | ya erps if your not sure about distro's install suse and try and install a few packages with yast. then try and ask the #suse channel why it works like its head is up some other os's ass then install debian and use aptitude or synaptic to install an email server, or even desktop. you will make up your mind pretty quickly |
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| 18:08.04 | Marcos | e aí pessoas |
| 18:08.14 | abrotman | !es |
| 18:08.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:08.19 | abrotman | or .. portuguese? |
| 18:08.26 | Marcos | pois é |
| 18:08.26 | cureless | portuguese |
| 18:08.28 | abrotman | !pt |
| 18:08.29 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:08.34 | Marcos | tô no infocentro |
| 18:08.37 | gato | oi] |
| 18:08.58 | k31th | hum i currently have my dns handled on a box running bind, im setting up nsd on another box and wat that to be primary name server... however do i have to do any thing magic to get it to change |
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| 18:09.04 | erps | grendal_prime, :\ Not here to defend one flavor over another. Frankly I use gentoo at home & work - and if I'm forced to choose between a limited selection that doesn't include my personal choice.. I end up going with freebsd > debian > slackware > suse > redhat |
| 18:09.34 | Marcos | quem fala portuguese aí galera |
| 18:09.42 | gato | valente ba |
| 18:09.44 | cureless | abrotman: I think he's not paying attention |
| 18:09.47 | grendal_prime | free bsd is cool to. ive seen a few builds in my day. but its not linux |
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| 18:10.05 | erps | grendal_prime, True, but when it comes to running a server it's one of my top choices. |
| 18:10.06 | cureless | !pt Marcos |
| 18:10.09 | Marcos | e ai kd a galera linux |
| 18:10.20 | cureless | hmm |
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| 18:10.35 | gato | fala garoto |
| 18:10.51 | grendal_prime | i dont blaim you there...i was told you can shoot the box with a shotgun and it will more than likely get an email off to the sysadmin as to what it thinks is happening |
| 18:10.57 | Marcos | e aí hermes |
| 18:11.02 | abrotman | cureless: no kidding |
| 18:11.07 | abrotman | Marcos: #debian-br |
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| 18:11.17 | azeem | gato, Marcos: please write english in here |
| 18:11.18 | erps | grendal_prime, :p yah, something like that. |
| 18:11.21 | cureless | erps: I used to run quite a few fbsd boxes, but then decided to make everything debian for simplicity. |
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| 18:11.55 | gato | fala garota |
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| 18:12.22 | gato | fala boy |
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| 18:12.36 | Monica | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.48 | Monica | oi gato |
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| 18:12.54 | erps | I'm just in a bit of a bend is all. Trying to justify to myself why debian splits up configs so 'wonderfully'. Of the systems I manage.. it's the one I end up babysitting the most. The others just work and upgrade smoothly as needed. I add more functionality to them? No problem. |
| 18:12.58 | cureless | abrotman: azeem they're all from the same place. |
| 18:13.03 | gato | tenho |
| 18:13.04 | Monica | como é o seu nome gato |
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| 18:13.08 | gato | qual é o seu |
| 18:13.08 | jerware | fellaz |
| 18:13.09 | erps | and I'd have used something other than debian, but didn't have a choice ;) |
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| 18:13.17 | Monica | monica |
| 18:13.18 | jerware | can PPP be ran over Rj-11? |
| 18:13.24 | grendal_prime | i do like the speed of gentoo...i just never have the time to compile it the way i would like to compile it for speed. i need to build routers, webservers, db serversYESTERDAY alot of times. i really like the plugability or debian way |
| 18:13.25 | gato | Sander |
| 18:13.27 | jerware | or must PPP be run through serial |
| 18:13.32 | Monica | vc é casado |
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| 18:13.42 | sander | gato, yo.. whats up? |
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| 18:13.47 | cureless | azeem: get them all |
| 18:13.48 | jerware | RJ-11 as in telephone wire |
| 18:13.50 | azeem | eh, I wasn't registered... |
| 18:13.54 | gato | quem sabe podemos ficar juntinhos] |
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| 18:13.59 | zood__ | tralala: hmmm trying to play one file locked up my system and I had to do a reset button reboot... |
| 18:14.06 | grendal_prime | i have boxes ive built sitting on a rack, ready to deploy, they have nothing but bas sytem on them. i dont config them untill they are in at there "New Home" location...that just flat out rocks. |
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| 18:14.38 | cureless | they were talking about being single, married, and wanting to f*** |
| 18:14.42 | zood__ | tralala: so it's probably not something as simple as editing my XF86Config-4 huh? |
| 18:14.59 | erps | grendal_prime, yah, as long as I'm not compiling GUI's all the time though - gentoo is fairly quick. I can preset my config files & hit deploy. |
| 18:15.00 | azeem | if they're all in one place, they should just arrange among themselves... |
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| 18:15.27 | grendal_prime | ive heard they have quickbuilds for it... |
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| 18:15.49 | nny | hrrmpph.. how the heck do i tell apt-get to ignore a dependency forever? |
| 18:15.54 | erps | grendal_prime, yah.. and some enterprising souls have binaries you can use. |
| 18:15.58 | grendal_prime | but i mean even when you look at there website they compair there own distro to the racecars of others...experimental... |
| 18:16.01 | nny | it's not a system important dependency |
| 18:16.20 | nny | just won't let me install any other packages without satiating this one, and i don't want it to |
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| 18:16.42 | erps | grendal_prime, LOL :) Well, Debian isn't exactly known for the qiuckest pugrade path. And you can configure your gentoo system to stay back at a "stable" branch. |
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| 18:16.52 | pdbogen | nny: You could use equivs to make an empty package that satisfies it. |
| 18:17.01 | stressalot | hi everyone |
| 18:17.13 | erps | grendal_prime, can also designate to a hardened/secure branch which focuses entirely on security. |
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| 18:17.32 | erps | grendal_prime, then again, neither of them support MySQL 5 straight up yet :\ have to do that one by hand, meh. |
| 18:17.33 | Sparticus | hi, is there anyone here who knows a lot about dns servers? |
| 18:17.39 | erps | Anyway, thanks for the information. |
| 18:17.46 | azeem | Sparticus: just ask your question |
| 18:17.51 | erps | best I go now before I get banned ;) |
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| 18:17.58 | beered | Is there an easy way to 'image' a CD directly from a CD to a CDR? |
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| 18:18.07 | nny | pdbogen: explain? sorry a little dense |
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| 18:18.43 | cureless | beered: you mean copy from one to the other? |
| 18:18.48 | beered | cureless: yep |
| 18:19.10 | cureless | beered: doesn't k3b and cdrecord do that? |
| 18:19.21 | grendal_prime | i would hope so |
| 18:19.35 | Sparticus | azeem - I have a range of 8 IP's and want to setup my own DNS server on my Debain server, I only have one network card, will it be possible to assign it 2 IP's to run a DNS server with ns1.domain.com and ns2.domain.com? |
| 18:19.37 | grendal_prime | its jsut a cd copy or am i not understaning the question |
| 18:19.49 | grendal_prime | you need a copy of your install disk right? |
| 18:19.55 | azeem | Sparticus: don't ask me, I know nothing about DNS |
| 18:19.57 | beered | cureless: well, if I knew I would ask :-) |
| 18:19.58 | azeem | ask the channel |
| 18:19.58 | cureless | Sparticus: yes. |
| 18:20.06 | Sparticus | ohh cool |
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| 18:20.25 | sohmestra | Sparticus: yes |
| 18:20.25 | chump | * No css library available. See ** |
| 18:20.25 | chump | ** /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian ** |
| 18:20.25 | chump | ** for more information. ** |
| 18:20.26 | Nick0r | hi |
| 18:20.33 | Sparticus | cureless - ive been lookin for days, do u know any walk throughs to doing this? |
| 18:20.34 | chump | thats what comes up when i try and backup a dvd |
| 18:20.34 | Nick0r | having some problems with my apache install |
| 18:20.40 | cureless | Sparticus: doing what? |
| 18:20.45 | Sparticus | setting up my dns |
| 18:20.52 | sohmestra | Sparticus: man interfaces |
| 18:20.52 | Nick0r | ucf --debconf-ok -d /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf -> seems to be erroring but i've got no idea why and its preventing me from installing apache |
| 18:20.53 | Nick0r | any ideas? |
| 18:20.59 | pdbogen | chump : Did you try reading /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian ? |
| 18:21.09 | Sparticus | sohmestra - i know thats the file but i dont know how to do it |
| 18:21.11 | chump | yes lead no where |
| 18:21.11 | abrotman | !be a reading barbie |
| 18:21.11 | dpkg | Aww, reading is HARD! Let's go shopping, abrotman |
| 18:21.13 | cureless | Sparticus: just install bind9, add a new interface alias, voila! |
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| 18:21.35 | Sparticus | ok i'll look into that |
| 18:21.55 | pdbogen | chump: Try reading it again. It's perfectly clear to me. It tells you exactly what to do to fix the problem. |
| 18:21.58 | beered | !be a sexy barbie |
| 18:21.58 | dpkg | Aww, sexy is HARD! Let's go shopping, beered |
| 18:22.03 | beered | LOL |
| 18:22.03 | snickel1650 | I did a an instalation of KDE through the internet and after I typed in startx, I got this error message: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory.. cannot execute, unable to connect to X server |
| 18:22.05 | tralala | zood__: yeah. The video card is crappy. I have one (built-in on the mobo) and it works with sarge at 800x600. Anything above that gives ugly visual effects. |
| 18:22.08 | chump | mine is blan |
| 18:22.09 | snickel1650 | any ideas? |
| 18:22.10 | chump | blank* |
| 18:22.17 | pdbogen | Huh. |
| 18:22.24 | pdbogen | Reinstall libdvdread3, perhaps. |
| 18:22.25 | Nick0r | anyone? |
| 18:22.25 | Nosf3ratu | bueller? |
| 18:22.26 | chump | but i'm googlig to get a copy right now |
| 18:22.34 | chump | thanks |
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| 18:22.52 | grendal_prime | snickel1650, did you install xserver core? |
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| 18:22.54 | jerware | how do i return the file in /dev for a particular device? |
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| 18:23.00 | abrotman | x-window-system-core |
| 18:23.02 | snickel1650 | no, how do I do that? |
| 18:23.05 | jerware | it's my modem im looking for, dial up |
| 18:23.11 | Nick0r | ucf --debconf-ok -d /etc/apache/httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue /etc/apache/httpd.conf -> seems to be erroring but i've got no idea why and its preventing me from installing apache |
| 18:23.13 | snickel1650 | sorry, I'm completely new to linix |
| 18:23.15 | snickel1650 | linux |
| 18:23.26 | abrotman | but you managed to compile kde? |
| 18:23.38 | snickel1650 | I ran apt-get install kde |
| 18:23.38 | blondie | lunix |
| 18:24.15 | migiel | im installing debian using etch beta 2-netinstall cd, im at the point where i need to install a boot loader, but somehow i get failures for lilo and grub, i've got 2 harddisks in raid0.. |
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| 18:24.47 | zood__ | tralala: yah bummer. Thanks for all the help though. |
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| 18:25.16 | snickel1650 | ok I took a guess and installed x-window-system-core with the apt-get command thanks for the help |
| 18:25.48 | zood__ | Can I switch from 1024x768 to 800x600 without rebooting or leaving my x-session? |
| 18:25.57 | abrotman | xrandr |
| 18:26.11 | jair | hey guys I was wondering if exist some kind of connection (remote) in Linux debian that can allow you restart the computers or turn them on, with the feature of been able to see the reboot process and the turn off process. |
| 18:26.25 | jair | I know that screen allows me to see all the command and installatio9n ext. |
| 18:26.31 | jair | installation |
| 18:26.37 | snickel1650 | the setup is prompting me to enter the video card's bus identifier. anyone know where I would find this? |
| 18:26.46 | abrotman | leave it blank unless you've a mac or two cards |
| 18:26.47 | Azar | snickel1650: no need |
| 18:26.56 | snickel1650 | ok |
| 18:27.22 | jair | sorry, but when the shell or the remote system is shutdown, then you get disconected from the shell ssh |
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| 18:27.37 | [machine] | jair: only if you have a second system at the same location |
| 18:28.18 | cureless | jair: your question is not really clear. But you might need some "terminal" server to be able to do all of those things remotely. |
| 18:28.34 | jair | [machine]: it is two servers or one server and a client connection. |
| 18:28.50 | jair | ohh a terminal server |
| 18:29.05 | sohmestra | I'm having problems installing samba under xen. When I try to install, I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/735525 |
| 18:29.45 | sohmestra | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.47 | sohmestra | ldap-samba:/# ls -l /dev/tty |
| 18:29.47 | sohmestra | crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 0 May 23 20:52 /dev/tty |
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| 18:30.12 | jair | cureless: but the thing is that, I want the machine as a server or client remote. Then I can access to it and also monitor even the boot up process etc. |
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| 18:30.24 | [machine] | jair: has a debian box for a client attached to a freebsd box... grub and then the console are output to the serial line, so said customer can log in to the fbsd and use it |
| 18:30.27 | sohmestra | any ideas as to what the cause of this is? |
| 18:30.42 | snickel1650 | ok now I'm getting this error: "cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device... no core pointer (I'm running an IBM laptop) Does anyone know how I can fix this |
| 18:31.10 | jair | [machine]: nice so I can connect two servers using a serial cable like com1 or 2 |
| 18:31.11 | jair | ? |
| 18:31.16 | blondie | abrotman: wiggle into hyperspace |
| 18:31.23 | abrotman | snickel1650: modprobe mousedev |
| 18:31.33 | abrotman | blondie: i found all kinds of weird stuff in the event log |
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| 18:32.21 | [machine] | jair: yep, but it's client/server... you can't use it both ways round |
| 18:32.38 | [machine] | jair: unless both systems have 2 serial ports |
| 18:32.55 | zood__ | I'd like to switch from 1024x768 to 800x600 mode. but if I use xrandr (`xrandr -s 1`) then I get an 800x600 display area that only takes up a small corner of my physical display. How do I make the 800x600 take up the entire screen? |
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| 18:33.52 | snickel1650 | abrotman: thanks for the help, I've got KDE working, but only with a USB mouse that I just plugged in. Is there anyway I can use the eraser pointer that's located on the keyboard? |
| 18:34.00 | blondie | abrotman: spider webs and woodlice? o.O |
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| 18:34.15 | jair | [machine]: serial ports right... hmmm let me see if I am usnderstanding this. |
| 18:34.36 | jair | [machine]: I will ahve a server running on a machine with its on monitor ok. |
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| 18:35.22 | jair | [machine]: then I will need to connect from that machine (server) a serial cable to another machine next ot it? |
| 18:36.27 | jair | [machine]: then from a third machine (client) I will be able to connect to the server and when the server get power down I will be able to see the kill processes remotely? |
| 18:36.28 | sohmestra | ls |
| 18:36.46 | [machine] | jair: yes |
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| 18:38.23 | tralala | zood__: if this doesn't work then you're out of options. Perhaps the driver doesn't support the RandR extension very well. Try changing the config and restart X. |
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| 18:38.35 | [machine] | jair: some types of system, such as Suns have more advanced ways to do it... but on a bog standard pc, that's the easiest way |
| 18:38.48 | jair | [machine]: ohh ok |
| 18:38.55 | zood__ | tralala: k brb |
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| 18:39.04 | jair | I will check and the serial cable will go connected to the com port? |
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| 18:39.28 | jair | [machine]: com serial port 1 or 2 and the same port in the other pc? |
| 18:39.51 | snickel1650 | I'm using KDE right now on an IBM laptop, and I just tried to set the monitor to 1064x786, but it will only let me select up to 860. Anyway I can fix this? |
| 18:39.58 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 18:39.58 | dpkg | somebody said tetrinet was multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 18:40.13 | snowrichard | cat dumped a dr pepper into my keyboard |
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| 18:40.39 | cahoot | snowrichard: should use grep |
| 18:40.52 | robin__sz | snowrichard, look on the bright side .. cat could have dumped on your keyboard ... |
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| 18:41.32 | Amx | Hello. |
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| 18:42.02 | [machine] | jair: doesn't matter... http://www.rajeevnet.com/linux/grub_serial_console.html explains how to do it in more detail... it's redhat guide.. but the same on Debian |
| 18:42.03 | pdbogen | Heh. |
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| 18:42.36 | Amx- | Hey |
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| 18:42.51 | Amx- | I got big problem here. |
| 18:43.39 | Vasistha | snickel1650: I think the resolution you want is 1024x768 |
| 18:43.43 | Azar | Amx-: people get problems everytime |
| 18:43.48 | Amx- | :p |
| 18:43.52 | Amx- | http://rafb.net/paste/results/mXWPgJ16.html |
| 18:43.55 | Amx- | that is my problem |
| 18:44.03 | Vasistha | robin__sz: actually I think the dump would be less likely to destroy the keyboard than the dr pepper... |
| 18:44.45 | snickel1650 | vasistha: right, but kde will only allow me up to 800x600 |
| 18:44.50 | snickel1650 | is there anyway I can override this/ |
| 18:44.56 | robin__sz | Vasistha, I think Id prfer to take my chances with the Dr Pepper, it tastes better :) |
| 18:44.59 | Vasistha | Amx-: it would be helpful to know what the nature of your problem is |
| 18:45.03 | robin__sz | Vasistha, actually, wait .. |
| 18:45.19 | robin__sz | Vasistha, tough call now I think of it |
| 18:45.32 | Vasistha | snickel1650: well, if you're using sarge, you probably need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and add more resolutions |
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| 18:46.02 | Amx- | Vasistha: Can't run nearly anything. |
| 18:46.18 | Vasistha | Amx-: it looks like your hard drive is failing. I hope you have a backup |
| 18:46.26 | snickel1650 | vasistha: I'm completely new at this.. how exactly would I do that? |
| 18:46.43 | Vasistha | Amx-: it's not open source, and it's not free either, but I would recommend spinrite from grc.com |
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| 18:47.14 | Vasistha | snickel1650: first cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:47.20 | Vasistha | snickel1650: and let me know what it says |
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| 18:47.21 | Amx- | Vasistha: Do you think my hard drive has broken? |
| 18:47.53 | abrotman | Vasistha: he sohuld use dpkg-reconfigure to do that |
| 18:48.05 | Azar | Amx-: when did this happen? what were you doing? was a fresh install? |
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| 18:48.12 | krang | When openldap says it requires "posix regex software" what does it mean? Er, do I have it if grep works? |
| 18:48.13 | Vasistha | snickel1650: listen to abrotman ! |
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| 18:48.23 | abrotman | !drxx snickel1650 |
| 18:48.23 | dpkg | snickel1650: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:48.24 | Amx- | Azar: yes. |
| 18:48.27 | Amx- | it was fresh. |
| 18:48.39 | Amx- | I was trying to shutdown mysql. |
| 18:48.43 | Amx- | and that problem appeared |
| 18:48.57 | Amx- | Now i can't start apache because it can't open logs. |
| 18:49.10 | Azar | Amx-: listen to abrotman |
| 18:49.26 | abrotman | listen to me ? |
| 18:49.36 | Azar | Amx-: never mind |
| 18:49.42 | Amx- | Okey abrotman |
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| 18:49.58 | yipstar | how would i go about installing debian on a server that has an ATI Radeon 9200 card, which isn't supported on the installation cd, but I found debian packages for it on the Internet? |
| 18:49.58 | snickel1650 | dpkg: it's asking me for a driver |
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| 18:50.11 | snickel1650 | I'm not sure which one to pick.. I'm running an IBM r51 |
| 18:50.18 | Vasistha | snickel1650: dpkg is a bot ;-) |
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| 18:53.39 | abrotman | Amx-: yes .. it looks like it's dying |
| 18:53.46 | abrotman | Amx-: try another cable if it's handy |
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| 18:54.13 | Amx- | abrotman: :G |
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| 18:54.21 | abrotman | wtf is a "G" ? |
| 18:54.27 | Amx- | abrotman: Do you think that my hard drive is going to blow up? :p |
| 18:54.39 | abrotman | Amx-: given enough C4 .. anythign can happen |
| 18:54.44 | Amx- | ;) |
| 18:54.52 | _ThePiratemaster | can i specify /etc/passwd as a pure-ps password file? |
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| 18:56.12 | krang | When openldap's readme says it requires "posix regex software" what does it mean? Do I have it if grep works? |
| 18:56.23 | krang | It seems a bit vague |
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| 18:56.50 | abrotman | sed probably |
| 18:56.53 | abrotman | ask #ldap ? |
| 18:56.59 | pipeline | krang: sed |
| 18:57.02 | pipeline | krang: you need sed |
| 18:57.04 | krang | aha, didn't think of that. Cheers |
| 18:57.12 | snickel1650 | if I'm trying to use the mouse that's on my laptop, which porn should it be configured as? |
| 18:57.16 | krang | pipeline: ah sweet, got that already |
| 18:57.24 | krang | pipeline : thanks |
| 18:57.41 | grendal_prime | hardcore porn. |
| 18:57.48 | snickel1650 | *port |
| 18:57.49 | grendal_prime | all mice need hardcore porn |
| 18:58.01 | _ThePiratemaster | anal sex with dead animals-porn |
| 18:58.12 | azeem | erm |
| 18:58.20 | cahoot | snickel1650: probably /dev/input/mice |
| 18:58.49 | _ThePiratemaster | sorry, i'll keep my hobbies to myself |
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| 18:58.59 | _ThePiratemaster | oh, and can i specify /etc/passwd as a pure-ps password file? |
| 18:59.08 | grendal_prime | or /dev/input/naught/mice int the case of the porn mouse |
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| 18:59.17 | grendal_prime | im sorry i just found that reaaaaaallly funny |
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| 18:59.34 | cahoot | it was - really |
| 18:59.44 | SerajewelKS | grendal_prime: me too, it's going on bash |
| 18:59.54 | grendal_prime | froidian slip? |
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| 19:00.08 | jair | [machine]: thank you very much |
| 19:00.10 | cahoot | Freud? |
| 19:00.18 | grendal_prime | ya him to |
| 19:00.20 | jair | [machine]: I am reading about the link you sent me |
| 19:00.32 | nkuttler | !freud |
| 19:00.32 | dpkg | from memory, freud is a dead psychoanalysis guy, but sex obsessed, but a dead pervert, but causes you to no longer accept that a cigar is just a cigar |
| 19:01.05 | nekostar | hm |
| 19:01.19 | nekostar | anyone run into boot partition discrepancies before? |
| 19:01.36 | nekostar | 79:49/00 |
| 19:01.40 | nekostar | stuff like that |
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| 19:02.07 | grendal_prime | hu...anyone ever knotice how 00 looks like two eyes wandering to the left? |
| 19:02.13 | dli | nekostar, I found debian installer couldn't install grub to a jfs boot partition |
| 19:02.23 | nekostar | its ext3 |
| 19:02.24 | SerajewelKS | grendal_prime: you a KDE user or something? |
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| 19:02.32 | nekostar | jfs? interesting though |
| 19:02.34 | grendal_prime | damn skippy |
| 19:02.36 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 19:02.40 | SerajewelKS | grendal_prime: "knotice" heh |
| 19:02.44 | nekostar | gnome>kde |
| 19:02.51 | SerajewelKS | !start a wm war |
| 19:02.51 | dpkg | emacs makes me vomit! |
| 19:02.57 | nekostar | agreed. |
| 19:03.03 | SerajewelKS | O_o emacs is a wm? |
| 19:03.09 | cureless | hahaha, wm war -> emacs |
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| 19:03.14 | dolor | Now, after extensive googling I've come up empty handed - I cannot get my mouse operational using xserver-xorg on an IBM ThinkPad A31. Any advice? |
| 19:03.19 | cureless | dpkg is funny |
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| 19:03.38 | jc750kwak | How do I check and then change my video card driver in Debian 3.1 ? |
| 19:03.42 | cureless | dolor: wtf? |
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| 19:03.51 | grendal_prime | kde apps all work...via so many diff protocols...i love it. |
| 19:03.54 | abrotman | lspci |
| 19:04.04 | cureless | dolor: that is strange. |
| 19:04.06 | dli | !tell jc750kwak about drxx |
| 19:04.23 | grendal_prime | i run gnome on this machine the fans run, all the time. it works the proc |
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| 19:04.58 | _ThePiratemaster | can i specify /etc/passwd as a pure-ps password file? |
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| 19:05.31 | gnychis | anyone here use a console aim client? |
| 19:05.33 | nekostar | _ThePiratemaster, |
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| 19:05.37 | nekostar | pure-pw ? |
| 19:05.42 | nekostar | i e pure-ftpd ? |
| 19:05.44 | grendal_prime | dont know _ThePiratemaster |
| 19:05.45 | _ThePiratemaster | yes |
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| 19:05.53 | nekostar | you can specify watever u want |
| 19:05.55 | nekostar | gimme sec |
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| 19:06.05 | nekostar | the key is to make this one link... lemme find the page |
| 19:06.08 | grendal_prime | you work at the renfair by any chance _ThePiratemaster ? |
| 19:06.39 | nekostar | _ThePiratemaster, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/383 |
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| 19:06.56 | cureless | dolor: there seem to be lots of laptop info at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html , I don't see any mouse problems |
| 19:07.07 | _ThePiratemaster | i want my pure-ftpd server to respond to the LIST command, i can logg-in but i figured |
| 19:07.07 | _ThePiratemaster | i may need to have a virtual user also, which wouldd be specified in the passwd file |
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| 19:07.22 | nekostar | ah that was the wrong one _ThePiratemaster |
| 19:07.24 | nekostar | look at this one |
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| 19:07.31 | nekostar | http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/pureftp.htm |
| 19:07.39 | nekostar | and then google pure-ftpd-wrapper |
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| 19:07.46 | _ThePiratemaster | so i need pure-ps to get its passwords and user info from /etc/passwd |
| 19:07.46 | _ThePiratemaster | tnx |
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| 19:07.57 | nekostar | those commands go in files named what u want in /etc/pure-ftpd/conf |
| 19:08.19 | _ThePiratemaster | it desnt use configs |
| 19:08.21 | grendal_prime | i wonder why there is no #webdav ? |
| 19:08.29 | _ThePiratemaster | all of it done by inetd |
| 19:08.32 | nekostar | cd /etc/pure-ftpd/auth |
| 19:08.32 | nekostar | ln -s ../conf/PureDB 50pure |
| 19:08.32 | _ThePiratemaster | and options |
| 19:08.37 | nekostar | thats the most inportant bit |
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| 19:08.47 | nekostar | anyway gl |
| 19:08.50 | nekostar | i recommend doing :::: |
| 19:08.57 | snickel1650 | alright, I tried to restart kde, but now I'm getting an fatal error that says no screen found |
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| 19:09.08 | nekostar | apt-get --purge remove pure-ftpd |
| 19:09.14 | nekostar | to remove everythign completely |
| 19:09.16 | nekostar | and |
| 19:09.18 | _ThePiratemaster | yea right... |
| 19:09.23 | nekostar | rm -rf /etc/pure* |
| 19:09.29 | nekostar | then install again and start fresh |
| 19:09.31 | nekostar | :) |
| 19:09.34 | _ThePiratemaster | why would i do that? |
| 19:09.45 | nekostar | who knows why u borked it the first time lol |
| 19:10.10 | grendal_prime | borked...hehehe sounds like something you would hear in a porno |
| 19:10.14 | _ThePiratemaster | r u famillair wiht pure-ftpd not respnding to the LIST command? |
| 19:10.16 | nekostar | 'tis |
| 19:10.27 | nekostar | _ThePiratemaster, exactly my point |
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| 19:10.54 | zood_ | exit |
| 19:11.04 | grendal_prime | hmm |
| 19:11.05 | grendal_prime | exit |
| 19:11.08 | grendal_prime | exit |
| 19:11.17 | grendal_prime | that doesnt work for me hahahahahaah |
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| 19:12.48 | ahjot | hi all, i need help from someone with sarge 3.1 |
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| 19:12.48 | azeem | ahjot: just state your question |
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| 19:12.59 | azeem | grendal_prime: can you please stop mocking users here? |
| 19:13.03 | ahjot | i need the file /etc/init.d/postfix |
| 19:13.10 | ahjot | i somehow deleted it |
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| 19:13.24 | azeem | !find init.d/postifx sarge |
| 19:13.36 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'init.d/postifx' returned no results. |
| 19:13.38 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 19:13.38 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 19:13.43 | valdyn | ahjot: ^^^ |
| 19:13.49 | SerajewelKS | azeem: to be fair, zood_ wasn't "here" when he was mocked ;) |
| 19:14.12 | azeem | SerajewelKS: how does it look to other users? |
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| 19:14.23 | azeem | "Hrm, I'll be mocked when I leave"? |
| 19:14.24 | tavo | hello |
| 19:14.28 | dolor | yeah, thanks fellows - I am also puzzled. But, its time for work. |
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| 19:15.17 | Libra102 | hello. |
| 19:15.17 | abrotman | we could mock grendal_prime :) |
| 19:15.26 | Libra102 | find . -name "*.bak" -exec rm {}; |
| 19:15.27 | Libra102 | find: missing argument to `-exec' |
| 19:15.31 | SerajewelKS | !beer abrotman |
| 19:15.32 | Libra102 | why not -exec ? |
| 19:15.53 | SerajewelKS | Libra102: you need to quote the parameter, since ; is interpreted by bash |
| 19:16.00 | SerajewelKS | Libra102: -exec '{};' #should work |
| 19:16.30 | Libra102 | find . -name "*.bak" -exec rm '{}'; ?? |
| 19:16.35 | ahjot | !find init.d/postfix sarge |
| 19:16.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'init.d/postfix' (1): (/etc/init.d/postfix) in mail/postfix. |
| 19:16.44 | Libra102 | it's same... |
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| 19:18.20 | valdyn | _ThePiratemaster: _ThePiratemaster> r u famillair wiht pure-ftpd not respnding to the LIST command? <- firewall issue |
| 19:18.28 | _ThePiratemaster | where should a symbolic link to Unixauthentication lead ot? |
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| 19:18.53 | ahjot | it doesnt work, can someone plz upload /etc/init.d/postfix from sarge ? |
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| 19:19.09 | ZEA | oh so it's in the topic :) |
| 19:19.09 | kspath | I wonder what #bash is up to now. |
| 19:19.13 | ZEA | hi all |
| 19:19.16 | _ThePiratemaster | ahjot, hold on |
| 19:19.16 | valdyn | ahjot: what doesnt work? are you unable to use cut and paste? do you not understand something? |
| 19:19.44 | ahjot | installation process complains about /etc/init.d/postfix not existing |
| 19:20.08 | kspath | !tell ahjot about plz |
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| 19:21.09 | Sir_LeChucK | hello #debian... ive just updated my debian (im using the unstable branch) and my mouse is not working under X any idea ? |
| 19:21.13 | valdyn | ahjot: alright, guess grabbing that file is indeed the easy solution |
| 19:21.21 | _ThePiratemaster | ahjot, sorry, aint got the file |
| 19:21.25 | _ThePiratemaster | where should a symbolic link to Unixauthentication lead ot? |
| 19:21.28 | Sir_LeChucK | i dunno in which device it is |
| 19:21.43 | ahjot | anyone else has this file? |
| 19:22.10 | valdyn | ahjot: you have it |
| 19:22.24 | valdyn | ahjot: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix* |
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| 19:23.44 | zood_ | whenever I power on my laptop during boot it takes a long time trying to connect to a wired network. How can I disable this so that it doesn't look for a wired connection during boot? |
| 19:24.33 | valdyn | zood_: what exactly is hanging? |
| 19:24.43 | valdyn | zood_: ( delaying the boot process ) |
| 19:24.50 | Suprano- | anyone got an idea why i end at a Erlang (BEAM) emulator version 5.1 [source] Eshell V5.1 when i want to start ejabberd using erl -pa /var/lib/ejabberd/ebin \ |
| 19:24.51 | Suprano- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.51 | Suprano- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.51 | Suprano- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.51 | Suprano- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:25.01 | snickel1650 | I found an Xf86 config file on the internet |
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| 19:25.08 | snickel1650 | is there some way I can load it from the command line? |
| 19:25.09 | abrotman | snickel1650: eh? .. what's wrong with yours? |
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| 19:25.16 | Suprano- | ops more lines then i expected, sry |
| 19:25.22 | Werdna | hey all. |
| 19:25.23 | snickel1650 | I'm getting an error that says: no screens found |
| 19:25.40 | valdyn | !noscreensfound |
| 19:25.41 | dpkg | hmm... noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 19:25.43 | azeem | snickel1650: that's just the summary, you need to find the real error |
| 19:25.48 | abrotman | snickel1650: look farther up the log |
| 19:25.50 | zood_ | valdyn: Not sure. My guess is that something like `dhclient eth0` is running on boot. But I'm too much of a newb to know how to disable this or find out if this is what's actually happening |
| 19:26.23 | valdyn | zood_: edit /etc/network/interfaces, remove your wired interface ( probably eth0 ) from the 'auto' line |
| 19:26.24 | Werdna | is vnc the best tool for accepting remote connections to an X desktop (RDP style?) |
| 19:26.48 | snickel1650 | It says: (EE) No devices detected. |
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| 19:27.13 | valdyn | snickel1650: which hardware? which driver is X using? |
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| 19:27.29 | peppet | Werdna: you don't need vnc if client is unix |
| 19:27.43 | zood_ | valdyn: tnx |
| 19:27.47 | krang | does anyone know what's up with berekely db? the build_unix dor in the latest release and the one before it just has one file called 'tags' in it |
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| 19:28.28 | snickel1650 | I'm not entirely sure.. it was working fine before I tried to configure the file |
| 19:28.29 | krang | there should be a makefile+ all the other stuff in there |
| 19:28.29 | snickel1650 | my laptop uses an ATI Radeon 7500 |
| 19:28.34 | valdyn | snickel1650: before you edited that file manually? |
| 19:28.39 | snickel1650 | yeah |
| 19:28.51 | ZEA | wow... I did a update & dist-upgrade on etch and everything went smoothly |
| 19:29.00 | valdyn | snickel1650: not much point in doing that at all with that hardware |
| 19:29.03 | valdyn | !drxx snickel1650 |
| 19:29.03 | dpkg | snickel1650: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 19:29.10 | valdyn | !xmd5 |
| 19:29.10 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 19:29.17 | valdyn | snickel1650: ^^^ |
| 19:29.22 | Werdna | peppet, I have a debian box with crappy resolution, and I want to access its xdm from a windows box. |
| 19:29.44 | JoelR | hello, anyone with etch could please make a: aptitude show gnome and tell me if it exists as a virtual package please? |
| 19:30.01 | valdyn | !info gnome etch |
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| 19:31.20 | valdyn | JoelR: http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 19:31.34 | peppet | Werdna: then go with vnc |
| 19:31.38 | snickel1650 | valdyn: dpkg-reconfigure still works |
| 19:31.39 | valdyn | JoelR: or 21:30 <dpkg> Package 'gnome' does not exist. |
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| 19:32.00 | valdyn | snickel1650: well, it 'works' but it doesnt chanage the config file if you changed it |
| 19:32.06 | JoelR | ok, virtual package doesn't exist still, how do i install gnome then? :S |
| 19:32.15 | Werdna | peppet, any way to start a new session when I connect, rather than connecting to an existing session, I'd like to start a new one at decent res. |
| 19:32.17 | valdyn | JoelR: you dont |
| 19:32.24 | valdyn | JoelR: not in etch anyway |
| 19:32.36 | valdyn | !install gnome |
| 19:32.36 | dpkg | To install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
| 19:32.59 | valdyn | JoelR: try one of the other 2 options listed above |
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| 19:33.46 | ShAkFaCe | hi |
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| 19:34.11 | ShAkFaCe | can anyone help me install a wireless network |
| 19:34.24 | valdyn | !tell ShAkFaCe -about ask |
| 19:34.36 | peppet | Werdna: I think starting a new session is the default in vnc |
| 19:34.51 | valdyn | Werdna: there's vino ( gnome ) |
| 19:35.08 | Werdna | peppet, well I connected with vnc and it attached to my new session. |
| 19:35.09 | valdyn | Werdna: and there's rfb |
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| 19:35.59 | valdyn | Werdna: both above will connect to current session, xvncserver ( for instance ) will start its own session |
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| 19:36.44 | ShAkFaCe | ive tried ifup -a and iwconfig but i get no devices |
| 19:36.44 | Werdna | no such package. |
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| 19:37.03 | valdyn | Werdna: package is just 'vncserver' |
| 19:37.25 | Werdna | downloading. |
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| 19:39.15 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:39.15 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 19:39.44 | Werdna | ? |
| 19:39.57 | ZeeGeek | quit |
| 19:40.03 | ZeeGeek | oops, sorry |
| 19:40.08 | ShAkFaCe | anybody some time for a linux newbie? |
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| 19:40.20 | valdyn | ShAkFaCe: did you read what dpkg said? |
| 19:40.27 | tarzeau | !force loopbreak |
| 19:40.27 | dpkg | 'apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade'. Fix suggested by xk. Then you can remove or purge outdated packages after the upgrade. if you are getting this message about e2fsproogs, ask me about <e2fsprogs loop> |
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| 19:40.32 | tarzeau | !loopbreak |
| 19:40.32 | dpkg | 'apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 dist-upgrade'. Fix suggested by xk. Then you can remove or purge outdated packages after the upgrade. if you are getting this message about e2fsproogs, ask me about <e2fsprogs loop> |
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| 19:40.52 | valdyn | ShAkFaCe: we want precise info on your issue, like hardware, debian version, driver you're ( trying to ) use |
| 19:41.13 | valdyn | ShAkFaCe: 'lspci' is good to list cardbus / pci devices |
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| 19:42.09 | ShAkFaCe | Sorry. i am running KnoppMyth on a x86 machine with a Netgear ma401 pcmcia card. But i cannot see the network controller when i use lspci -v |
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| 19:42.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: apply now! |
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| 19:42.34 | valdyn | ShAkFaCe: this isnt a KnoppMyth support channel |
| 19:43.03 | ShAkFaCe | i understand that, but hasnt knoppmyth derived from debian |
| 19:43.15 | valdyn | ShAkFaCe: is that card pcmcia or cardbus? ( its documentation should know ), does your pcmcia port work at all? |
| 19:43.31 | valdyn | ShAkFaCe: hasnt english at least partially derived from latin? let's talk latin.. |
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| 19:44.04 | valdyn | ShAkFaCe: or keltic if you prefer |
| 19:44.11 | Suprano- | lol |
| 19:44.17 | ShAkFaCe | pcmcia port works ok as i have tested on a windows o/s. |
| 19:44.33 | Laidback_01 | hey, does the debian net-cd - the one that requires you build off the interent, allow you to install to sata drives yet? |
| 19:44.37 | SerajewelKS | !tell ShAkFaCe about based on debian |
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| 19:45.27 | valdyn | Laidback_01: sata is not something that really needs OS support, its a controller<->disk interface, the SATA controller needs driver support, no idea if your's has that |
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| 19:46.07 | hjubal | hi |
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| 19:46.45 | abrotman | tarzeau: i got denied |
| 19:46.53 | SerajewelKS | !lose abrotman |
| 19:46.53 | dpkg | abrotman: You Lose. |
| 19:47.08 | lewis | I have debian etch, and lose my /etc/motd on boot. EDITMOTD doesn't exist any longer in /etc/default/rcS, and I have done a 'grep -R motd *' from /etc, with no interesting results. Please could someone advise? |
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| 19:47.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: when did you apply? |
| 19:47.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: denied by whom for what reason? |
| 19:47.32 | valdyn | !find /etc/motd |
| 19:47.38 | pablum | any opinions on xgl? anyone try it out? |
| 19:47.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/etc/motd' (1): (/usr/share/doc/fai-doc/examples/simple/files/etc/motd/FAIBASE) in admin/fai-doc. |
| 19:47.50 | SerajewelKS | pablum: i used the livecd |
| 19:47.51 | abrotman | tarzeau: they said i'm american .. denied |
| 19:48.00 | valdyn | pablum: its experimental software, not for day to day use |
| 19:48.02 | pablum | for reference: http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ |
| 19:48.21 | pablum | valdyn, how does that make itself felt? |
| 19:48.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: crap! |
| 19:48.34 | valdyn | pablum: by crashes |
| 19:48.44 | SerajewelKS | pablum: the livecd seemed fairly solid, only a few minor bugs that i noticed, and generally arose from gnome not knowing that certain effects were happening |
| 19:48.49 | snickel1650 | I installed gnome, and now gnome starts when I type in startx.. how do I get back into KDE? |
| 19:48.50 | pablum | frequent? |
| 19:48.54 | lewis | I have already read the manuals of motd and issue, which didn't help. |
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| 19:49.07 | abrotman | tarzeau: i need something to maintain .. i'd be happier if there were some other way to contribute |
| 19:49.09 | SerajewelKS | pablum: it did not crash for me, but then i only used it for about 25 minutes |
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| 19:49.22 | valdyn | snickel1650: echo 'exec startkde' > ~/.xsession |
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| 19:49.29 | pablum | SerajewelKS, so if I were to restrict myself to, say, fvwm, I might do all right with it? |
| 19:49.36 | pablum | ah |
| 19:49.41 | SerajewelKS | pablum: *shrug* YMMV |
| 19:49.44 | tarzeau | abrotman: i wrote some text-utils software, want to maintain it? |
| 19:49.57 | SerajewelKS | pablum: is xgl even in debian yet? |
| 19:49.59 | abrotman | tarzeau: eh .. no :) |
| 19:50.08 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: maybe in experimental .. ask gravity when he's around |
| 19:50.13 | pablum | SerajewelKS, don't think so... not according to the bot |
| 19:50.14 | abrotman | !xgl |
| 19:50.14 | dpkg | it has been said that xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running.check http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease or ask me about "compiz" and "xgl-howto", or see http://getkororaa.com/ for a live-cd with xgl. see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl |
| 19:50.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: wtf! it's good software |
| 19:50.27 | valdyn | pablum: you would most certainly want to use a WM that does support Xgl's visual features |
| 19:50.29 | abrotman | oh .. guess not |
| 19:50.39 | valdyn | pablum: or else there wouldnt really be a point in using it |
| 19:50.50 | lewis | valdyn: could you point me in the right direction? |
| 19:50.58 | pablum | valdyn, how far away is that? Hmm. |
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| 19:51.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: sure sure .. |
| 19:51.13 | valdyn | lewis: for what? |
| 19:51.33 | abrotman | tarzeau: maybe i should wander through freshmeat looking for something |
| 19:51.40 | pablum | I didn't even think of that, valdyn, that there'd be hooks into the wm needed, but I guess it makes total sense. |
| 19:51.42 | lewis | my MOTD being deleted by the system at boot and replaced with uname -r |
| 19:51.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: got gnupgp now? you can be co-maintainer if you want? |
| 19:51.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: don't forget happypenguin.org :) |
| 19:52.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: co-maintainer .. of what? |
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| 19:52.33 | valdyn | lewis: i dont know what's wrong with yours, maybe etc/motd.tail is gone? |
| 19:52.41 | lewis | I don't have one. |
| 19:53.00 | tarzeau | abrotman: any of these or that new text-utils i will maintain: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=gurkan@linuks.mine.nu |
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| 19:53.40 | abrotman | tarzeau: i should do something on my own :) |
| 19:53.40 | lewis | (and never have as far as I know) |
| 19:53.42 | pablum | looks like compiz is the wm to use... |
| 19:53.42 | valdyn | lewis: http://valdyn.us.to/~valdyn/motd.tail |
| 19:54.02 | lewis | oh - I do, just never used it |
| 19:54.10 | lewis | thanks for putting it there though |
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| 19:54.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: and stop talking about it. just do it already |
| 19:54.34 | kspath | abrotman: DO EET! |
| 19:54.55 | valdyn | lewis: and /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh creates your /etc/motd file |
| 19:54.57 | lewis | basically, in sarge, you could edit /etc/default/rcS and set EDITMOTD=no, but that option is 'obseleted' in etch |
| 19:55.22 | tarzeau | kspath: heh :) |
| 19:55.32 | tarzeau | kspath: i've never seen someone as lazy as him |
| 19:55.41 | tarzeau | kspath: can you imagine his girlfriend! |
| 19:55.49 | lewis | [LINE 1] #uname -snrvm > /var/run/motd [LINE 2] #[ -f /etc/motd.tail ] && cat /etc/motd.tail >> /var/run/motd |
| 19:55.57 | lewis | that's all that I get, under the heading 'Update MOTD' |
| 19:55.58 | tarzeau | kspath: "I WANT YOU TO COME NOW! LAZY BITCH! *WHIP*" |
| 19:56.08 | kspath | tarzeau: I might be more lazy than abrotman. I am not sure though. |
| 19:56.36 | lewis | (i.e. since it is commented out, the bootmisc.sh script shouldn't do anything) |
| 19:56.47 | valdyn | pablum: http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl explains it pretty well |
| 19:56.57 | snickel1650 | I had a fat32 drive where I installed windowsXP, how do I mount that drive so that I can use it in linux? |
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| 19:57.10 | djfugu4848 | anyone know how to make sendmail just accept and queue mail but not deliver it? |
| 19:57.22 | kspath | djfugu4848: #sendmail does |
| 19:57.29 | valdyn | pablum: except for the fact that Xgl is also meant to be a new driver framework, which will defenitely take a long time yet to be used by real drivers |
| 19:57.29 | SerajewelKS | pablum: compiz is not a WM |
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| 19:57.44 | js_ | SerajewelKS: compiz is a wm |
| 19:57.49 | valdyn | pablum: ( if ever, there's different solutions ) |
| 19:57.53 | lewis | valdyn: by the way, your help is appreciated. |
| 19:58.03 | valdyn | lewis: did it help though? |
| 19:58.09 | tarzeau | kspath: and look at me! i'm so lazy i don't even finish writing sent |
| 19:58.12 | lewis | valdyn: not yet ;) |
| 19:59.09 | SerajewelKS | js_: not strictly speaking, i don't think |
| 19:59.24 | lewis | bootmisc.sh would usually alter my motd file, but in this case, all of the lines are commented out - so it shouldn't do. |
| 19:59.29 | valdyn | lewis: /var/run gets cleared each reboot and motd should get recreated there each reboot |
| 19:59.33 | js_ | SerajewelKS: define strictly |
| 19:59.40 | valdyn | lewis: guess the deletion is working for you |
| 19:59.45 | SerajewelKS | js_: it uses another window manager, does it not? |
| 19:59.53 | js_ | SerajewelKS: no, it replaces the running one |
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| 19:59.58 | valdyn | compiz is a WM |
| 20:00.01 | SerajewelKS | js_: it seems to me that it proxies calls to, say, kwin |
| 20:00.11 | seb- | how make debian allow X forwarding over ssh? |
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| 20:00.26 | valdyn | seb-: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 20:00.46 | js_ | SerajewelKS: there are two programs that completes it, gnome-window-decoration and kde-window-decoration (iirc), that gives a similar look to metacity and kwin |
| 20:01.02 | SerajewelKS | js_: ah, okay |
| 20:01.19 | lewis | valdyn: I am storing the motd in /etc/motd, not in /var |
| 20:02.11 | valdyn | lewis: bootmisc.sh writes to /var/run/ |
| 20:02.39 | pablum | SerajewelKS, it "uses Gnome or KDE decorations", but the page says it provides the wm functions (if I read that correctly) |
| 20:03.01 | valdyn | lewis: on sid anyway, im not familiar wiht this except to what im seeing on this system right now |
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| 20:04.01 | valdyn | pablum: compiz is a full 'normal' wm that uses the xgl/aiglx api and plugins for much functionality |
| 20:04.04 | lewis | valdyn, my point is, all the motd lines are commented out in my bootmisc.sh |
| 20:04.15 | lewis | so the script shouldn't be doing ANYTHING to my motd, am I right? |
| 20:04.31 | valdyn | lewis: yea, that's the problem |
| 20:04.39 | lewis | oh - nevermind |
| 20:05.05 | pablum | valdyn, interesting... what's aiglx do now? |
| 20:05.06 | lewis | well... how come when I create a motd file in /etc, it creates a symlink to /var/run/motd? |
| 20:05.35 | valdyn | lewis: uh, the symlink was already there? |
| 20:05.40 | lewis | oh |
| 20:05.45 | lewis | argh |
| 20:06.11 | pablum | argh, 3d acceleration |
| 20:06.11 | valdyn | lewis: edit /etc/motd.tail for a custom motd, leave /etc/motd alone, leave /etc/bootmisc.sh alone |
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| 20:06.50 | a | Hello people, I have debian etch, and want to be able to produce text files in russian (cyrillics). I installed the correesponding locale, but what next??? nothing has changed |
| 20:06.55 | lewis | ok - appreciated. |
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| 20:07.35 | kspath | !tell a about ru |
| 20:07.42 | valdyn | !ru |
| 20:07.42 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 20:07.55 | kspath | a: There is a fair chance that that channel will have the experts in it. |
| 20:08.05 | ZEA | I can't run opera because it complains about missing libqt-mt.so.3, even after i've exported LD_LIBRARY_PATH. if it because I'm using an amd64 platform? |
| 20:08.13 | valdyn | !aiglx |
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| 20:08.23 | Sourcey | What's wrong when my computer says "Ramdisk: ran out of compressed data, Invalid compressed format (err=1), VFS: cannot open root device "hda5" or unknown-block(0,0), Please append a correct "root=" boot option, kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" |
| 20:08.43 | NRG88 | hildi, anyone give me a link where i can find repositories? |
| 20:08.46 | a | kspath: thanx |
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| 20:09.01 | valdyn | pablum: try google, i cant explain it completely, its a different implementation of similar ideas as are behind xgl |
| 20:09.05 | pablum | valdyn, yeah, even has a wikipedia entry |
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| 20:09.16 | snickel1650 | I'm having trouble mounting my windows partition in debian |
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| 20:09.43 | snickel1650 | I tried mount /dev/hda1/mnt/windows, but I get an error that says: mount: can't find /dev/hda1/mnt/windows in etc/fstab |
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| 20:09.48 | pablum | not in etch... |
| 20:09.52 | valdyn | pablum: for a user there should be a difference, its mostly concerning implementation stuff for driver vendors/authors |
| 20:10.01 | pbryan | snickel1650: try mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows |
| 20:10.01 | valdyn | pablum: s/should/should not/ |
| 20:10.02 | [TechGuy] | I have an issue with nss_ldap, where only root can get account info of users in an LDAP directory. non-root users, both local (in /etc/passwd), and in LDAP, get no such user returns for getent, id, whoami, finger, etc |
| 20:10.19 | pbryan | snickel1650: (note space between /dev/hda1 and /mnt/windows) |
| 20:10.29 | snickel1650 | ah I see thanks |
| 20:10.52 | pablum | valdyn, saw that... something about 'closed-door' process for xgl. |
| 20:11.11 | valdyn | pablum: that is something entirely unrelated |
| 20:11.31 | pablum | to the birth of aiglx? Not according to wikipedia |
| 20:11.34 | valdyn | pablum: aiglx = keep using current driver framework, xgl = write new drivers |
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| 20:12.05 | valdyn | pablum: yea, just said i wasnt talking about their development method |
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| 20:12.42 | airbrush | anyone here ever used alien? |
| 20:12.52 | valdyn | airbrush: just dont use it |
| 20:12.54 | pablum | ah |
| 20:13.02 | SlammerXP | airbrush: yes, someone here has use alien at some point in time. |
| 20:13.02 | a | airbrush: I used it |
| 20:13.06 | SlammerXP | told you. |
| 20:13.24 | kombi | trying to do an innocent apt-get install tcpdump on an all new installation, I get "could not early remove e2fsprogs".. |
| 20:13.54 | airbrush | after one does the "alien -i pkg.xxx.rpm" does alien hunt down the deps for the package too? |
| 20:13.59 | Thanatermesis | stew, this stuff are turning me crazy |
| 20:14.02 | valdyn | airbrush: alien is a nice tool, but it really shouldnt be used by people not understanding exactly what they do, and those people usually know a better solution |
| 20:14.08 | kombi | how should I debug that firewall without tcpdump? |
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| 20:14.27 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 20:14.58 | kombi | "conflicts/pre-depends loop", what is that? |
| 20:15.10 | Fox_1_ | people i need a program like WhatsUp, but for debian and with web interface. is there any? |
| 20:15.10 | airbrush | so you're saying I should try it out, not ask about it? heh whatever, I'll just create a deb by hand |
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| 20:15.18 | valdyn | kombi: you are trying to install post sarge packages onto a pre-sarge system, upgrade to sarge first |
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| 20:15.29 | valdyn | airbrush: DONT use it |
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| 20:16.22 | kspath | Fox_1_: apt-cache search monitoring |
| 20:16.26 | valdyn | !e2fsloop |
| 20:16.31 | kombi | valdyn: thanks! never done that upgrade, will it potentially put me into trouble? it's a production box.. |
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| 20:17.04 | valdyn | kombi: what you are currently doing ( installing post sarge packages onto a pre-sarge system ) is certainly bad |
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| 20:17.16 | kombi | point taken |
| 20:17.29 | valdyn | !e2fsprogs loop |
| 20:17.29 | dpkg | e2fsprogs loop is, like, you are running packages which are older than the current debian stable and are trying to upgrade to debian etch or sid which isn't supported, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "testing" or "etch" or "unstable" with "stable" then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade; then if you still want testing, edit sources.list again, and change stable to testing and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:17.33 | valdyn | kombi: ^^^ |
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| 20:17.43 | Sourcey | kombi, have you ever played eve-online? |
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| 20:18.17 | kombi | I have hardly played anything on line at all.. |
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| 20:18.56 | phaedrus_ | can i change ntfs to ext3 in linux? |
| 20:19.06 | dserban | Ehm, say... is there a backport of xorg for sarge yet? :s |
| 20:19.22 | streuner | phaedrus_: backup and restore |
| 20:19.26 | thingfish | dserban: has been, for a while now. |
| 20:19.28 | kspath | !tell dserban about backport |
| 20:19.31 | phaedrus_ | backup and restore? |
| 20:19.46 | streuner | dserban: the backport exist a long time |
| 20:20.14 | dserban | thingfish: but not 7.0 right? |
| 20:20.17 | streuner | phaedrus_: backup the data where ntfs stored |
| 20:20.17 | kspath | !tell dserban about research |
| 20:20.33 | thingfish | dserban: that I don't know. I haven't looked at it in a long time. |
| 20:20.35 | dserban | I meant 7.0 :) |
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| 20:21.01 | dserban | looks like the news on the backports page says that 7.0 is a pain in the ass. |
| 20:21.02 | streuner | phaedrus_: or copy them to another partition |
| 20:21.07 | phaedrus_ | oh..i dont need to backup the data...i just want to change the ntfs partition to ext3 |
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| 20:21.32 | streuner | phaedrus_: well, there is no convert tool, AFAIK |
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| 20:21.42 | phaedrus_ | AFAIK? |
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| 20:21.56 | streuner | !AFAIK |
| 20:21.56 | dpkg | methinks afaik is some kind of acronym...but nobody knows what it means, As Far As I Know. ask me about 'imnkatf'. |
| 20:22.13 | phaedrus_ | oh...hehe |
| 20:22.38 | phaedrus_ | so i have to change the ntfs partition to fat in windows? and then i can change it to ext in linux? |
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| 20:23.03 | pablum | mmkay, beers... er, cheers |
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| 20:23.38 | kombi | valdyn: hitting apt-get upgrade might ruin my holyday if it goes wrong now.. can I really, really do it? Movin'? Like a ..machine? |
| 20:24.18 | snickel1650 | i'm using an IBM thinkpad, and I'm having trouble getting the touchpad to work.. I've tried to configure it using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but no luck picking the port: "/dev/input/mice" |
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| 20:24.40 | valdyn | !woody->sarge |
| 20:24.51 | SlayerXP | snickel1650: that would make it a USB mouse. which for a built in touchpad is unlikely. |
| 20:24.53 | valdyn | kombi: read the documentation provided on www.debian.org |
| 20:25.00 | valdyn | kombi: no upgrade is ever 100% safe |
| 20:25.01 | kspath | !'woody->sarge' |
| 20:25.02 | Tenshi | what is the default sound/audio backend for the mozilla package if you don't choose a sound wrapper? |
| 20:25.05 | kombi | ..scares the shit out of me.. |
| 20:25.12 | valdyn | dpkg: woody->sarge |
| 20:25.12 | dpkg | First, "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes>, or serious breakage for around 30% of users according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00006.html |
| 20:25.25 | Tenshi | is it alsa/oss, alsaoss? |
| 20:25.42 | valdyn | kombi: i doubt you're using plain woody though, more likely some weird mix |
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| 20:25.50 | kombi | ..valdyn: was testing, yes |
| 20:25.55 | snickel1650 | SlayerXP: any ideas about which port I should use then? |
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| 20:26.12 | jetscreamer | dselect is > * for dependencies |
| 20:26.13 | SlayerXP | snickel1650: I'd bet /dev/psaux |
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| 20:26.44 | valdyn | kombi: wasnt testing, some packages may be testing, but you defenitely still have pre-sarge stuff too |
| 20:26.57 | secher | Hey all. Ok, in setting up mysql, I installed mysql-server, mysql-client, and mysql-admin. I've read the README.Debian and the first 2 chapters of the mysql manual. When I try an do "mysqladmin -h urukhai -p -u root password" which is what the readme tells me to do, I get "Enter password:" to which I respond with the password I want. Then I get "error: 'Host '10.0.1.13' is not allowed to connect to this MYSQL server'" I've bugged #mysql about this for |
| 20:27.10 | valdyn | kombi: ( which was testing before sarge was released, but is obsolete now ) |
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| 20:27.19 | kombi | valdyn: should I just give it a go then.. |
| 20:27.37 | secher | am I missing something? suggestions? |
| 20:27.40 | valdyn | kombi: read the docs, im not going to give you yes / no advice ) |
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| 20:27.50 | kombi | too late.. |
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| 20:28.00 | snickel1650 | SlayerXP: works great, thanks! |
| 20:28.08 | abrotman | use pgsql |
| 20:28.09 | SlayerXP | np |
| 20:28.11 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 20:28.13 | DimmuR | Hi all. After crash (short powerdown) i cannot run postgresql back: postmaster/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/pg_ctl: line 328: kill: (2687) Operation not permitted any1 could help me restore it? |
| 20:28.19 | abrotman | or not ... |
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| 20:29.01 | valdyn | !wikifaq DimmuR Permissions |
| 20:29.01 | dpkg | DimmuR: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 20:29.12 | secher | abrotman: was that to me? I'm runnign mysql becuase that's the database the hosting service I'll be using uses. |
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| 20:31.03 | DimmuR | valdyn: you missunderstand me... for 6 months all was running ok... then power went down and this error... |
| 20:31.25 | Tassium | Anyone have a source (repository) for wine packages? winehq.com appears to only make Ubuntu .debs now. |
| 20:31.41 | kombi | DimmuR: done fsck? |
| 20:31.58 | tuxedup | i have a quick question, is lame not included the in the debian repositores due to it not being Free Software, or is because of possable leagle implications with patents and things? |
| 20:32.10 | snickel1650 | my only other problem right now is that my video driver is chosen as i810, but my laptop has an ATI Radeon. I've tried to pick the ati driver, but linux generates an error that says device not found, no screen. Any suggestions about which driver I should try and pick? |
| 20:32.19 | DimmuR | kombi: just after reboot - found nothing |
| 20:32.28 | equivalence | it is normal ,ephiphany can launch netstat ? |
| 20:32.35 | valdyn | DimmuR: so you should be able to tell us at least a) how you are starting pqsql and which user is unable to kill a process owned by who |
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| 20:33.47 | valdyn | !lame |
| 20:33.47 | dpkg | well, lame is : Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder at http://www.mp3dev.org/ mirrored at http://lame.sourceforge.net/ which contains debian build instructions, to make your own debs from the tarballs. Versions 3.81 onwards are LGPL!. or don't forget to 'chmod +x debian/rules'. Get .debs from <marillat> or <rarewares> |
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| 20:34.23 | Assid | heya |
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| 20:34.33 | tuxedup | no im just wondering about the reason for it not being in the repositories |
| 20:34.36 | DimmuR | valdyn: i'm running standard /etc/init.d/postgresql [re]start as root |
| 20:34.37 | Assid | anyone remember the name of the package which has ncurses based traffic monitoring? |
| 20:34.42 | astronut | dpkg: start an editor war |
| 20:34.42 | dpkg | "cat >" users need to get out more often |
| 20:34.46 | astronut | dpkg: start an editor war |
| 20:35.08 | Tenshi | Does anyone know if there is any way to get firefox to be able to play sounds while another alsa-using app is playing ... without having to use a sound server? What backend does firefox use? |
| 20:35.26 | kombi | DimmuR: what's in line 328? |
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| 20:36.07 | valdyn | DimmuR: and what about the process with pid 2687 ? |
| 20:36.21 | valdyn | DimmuR: im blindly guessing that this is just a stale pid file anyway |
| 20:36.35 | valdyn | DimmuR: does the process exist? what is it? |
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| 20:37.30 | hunterp | hi. dpkg -l is cutting short the names of long packages. is there a way to show the full names |
| 20:38.05 | DimmuR | valdyn: it's strange but it's imaplogin process... |
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| 20:38.34 | valdyn | DimmuR: so you just have a stale pid file that points to a pqsql process that once existed before your crash |
| 20:38.47 | valdyn | DimmuR: but now just incidentally is an imap process |
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| 20:39.30 | valdyn | valdyn: that failed script should be able to tell where that pid info is stored, so you can manually delete it |
| 20:39.35 | kurumin | tenho direito de responsa |
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| 20:40.11 | jair | guys how do I extract a file .gz? |
| 20:40.22 | kombi | gunzip |
| 20:40.22 | jair | incredible I suppouse to know that |
| 20:40.29 | DimmuR | valdyn: i try to reboot server brb |
| 20:40.42 | jair | kombi what do you mean? gunzip file.gz? |
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| 20:40.54 | kombi | yip |
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| 20:43.49 | valdyn | hunterp: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l ... |
| 20:43.59 | jair | kombi: thanks |
| 20:44.06 | hunterp | valdyn: x |
| 20:44.08 | hunterp | tx |
| 20:45.02 | hunterp | valdyn: the columns isnt surviving a pipe |
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| 20:45.23 | valdyn | hunterp: uh, what pipe? |
| 20:45.33 | hunterp | columsn =200; dpkg -l | grep apache |
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| 20:46.43 | valdyn | hunterp: COLUMNS=200, not columns and not columns = |
| 20:46.45 | kombi | hunterp: do you just want to know the apache version? |
| 20:47.05 | hunterp | valdyn: i was communicating what i was doing, i typed it correctly for myself |
| 20:47.47 | valdyn | hunterp: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'apache*' |
| 20:47.58 | valdyn | hunterp: though iirc it should survive a pipe.. |
| 20:48.06 | DimmuR|away | valdyn: seems it was it - after reboot postgresql is running - thanks for help |
| 20:48.17 | valdyn | DimmuR|away: welcome |
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| 20:49.01 | Sparticus | hi, can someone tell me how i would go about adding a second IP to my server with only one NIC? |
| 20:49.04 | snickel1650 | how do I figure out which version of xfree86 I have? |
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| 20:49.25 | valdyn | Sparticus: ifconfig eth0 add IP |
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| 20:49.37 | kombi | sparticus: add a second antry eth0:1 to your network/interfaces |
| 20:49.38 | t35t0r | anyone have software suspend working with nvidia drivers? |
| 20:50.06 | Sparticus | thanks kombi |
| 20:50.13 | kombi | valdyn: true of course |
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| 20:51.04 | Sparticus | kombi - can u paste me an example please? |
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| 20:51.46 | kombi | Sparticus: just use the one already there and replace IP and eth |
| 20:52.00 | grendal_prime | hmmm |
| 20:52.42 | kombi | like automatically? |
| 20:52.49 | grendal_prime | yep |
| 20:52.54 | kombi | like, why? |
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| 20:53.26 | Sparticus | kombi - just to check this is in /etc/netwrok/interfaces right? do i not need to do anything in /etc/hosts? |
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| 20:53.32 | grendal_prime | well...its a long o tell o but basically i want to use webdav on a box and have it act as a file sort of file proxy server for jabber clients. |
| 20:53.42 | kombi | Sparticus: absolutely not |
| 20:54.00 | grendal_prime | i can get it to put the file just fine, then the other client can download it np, but the file just sort of ...well...stays there |
| 20:54.15 | Sparticus | ok i'll try that |
| 20:54.45 | kombi | grendal_prime: comes down to being able to tell it was accessed, only a log file can to my understanding |
| 20:55.32 | grendal_prime | or apache itself |
| 20:55.39 | Tassium | kombi: The problem as I see it is the log file tells you when the access began, but not when it finished uploading (as I understand it) |
| 20:55.50 | kombi | true |
| 20:55.58 | grendal_prime | ya and it would be on the download |
| 20:56.02 | grendal_prime | hmmm |
| 20:56.22 | Sparticus | kombi - ok ive doen that, how do i restart my netwrok remotely so i dont lock myself out? |
| 20:56.26 | grendal_prime | i guess i could clean it with a cronjob once an evening...however, i dont really like it just sitting there |
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| 20:56.40 | kombi | Sparticus /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:56.59 | kombi | grendal: that would have been my approach |
| 20:57.30 | zood_ | When I run glxinfo I get `Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"`. Any ideas how to fix? When I run glxgears in anything but a tiny window I get _extremely_ low frame rate. I've made some progress so this isn't quite the same question I was asking before... ;) |
| 20:58.22 | grendal_prime | that works i gues...and basically, the only problem i really have then is that i have it set so that the username and password gets sent to the wedav server on upload np but the receiving machine does not seem to send the same info to download. |
| 20:58.29 | grendal_prime | so it errors |
| 20:58.36 | grendal_prime | unless i just remove the auth then it works fine... |
| 20:58.46 | grendal_prime | i dont want just any idiot browsing around in these files though |
| 20:58.47 | welp | anyone here use sqwebmail? |
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| 20:59.01 | kurumin | sovey |
| 20:59.07 | grendal_prime | what the hell is sqwebmail.. |
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| 20:59.19 | grendal_prime | i use squarlmail |
| 20:59.24 | Trev_ | squirrelmail |
| 20:59.32 | grendal_prime | ya thats the one |
| 20:59.33 | grendal_prime | i use that |
| 20:59.35 | Trev_ | hh |
| 20:59.39 | welp | haha |
| 20:59.41 | Trev_ | yea yea see.. |
| 20:59.44 | Sparticus | kombi - thanks for your help, i think it's worked but how do i check both ip's are allocated and working? |
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| 20:59.52 | kombi | ping |
| 20:59.58 | kombi | traceroute |
| 21:00.01 | kombi | mtr |
| 21:00.16 | welp | grendal_prime, how easy is it to configure it? |
| 21:00.20 | DaBlade | Which version was 3.1 again? |
| 21:00.21 | DaBlade | Etch? |
| 21:00.26 | Trev_ | anyhow yea I use it v1.4.5 about 500 users. |
| 21:00.30 | Vasistha | hmmm. DaBlade sarge is 3.1 |
| 21:00.30 | DaBlade | Sid? |
| 21:00.34 | DaBlade | Shit.. |
| 21:00.35 | Tassium | welp: squirrelmail is easy to configure. |
| 21:00.39 | grendal_prime | welp, seems like it was so simple i actually didnt think it was working at first |
| 21:00.44 | DaBlade | I can't find a mirror with etch ISOs |
| 21:00.47 | Vasistha | DaBlade: if you have etch or sid then /etc/debian_version will say "testing/unstable" |
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| 21:00.56 | grendal_prime | there is a setup script that dpkg fires off if i remember right. |
| 21:01.07 | welp | grendal_prime, apt-get install squirrelmail ? |
| 21:01.15 | grendal_prime | you just need to know what your transport is , and what your going to use for imap, |
| 21:01.24 | grendal_prime | i would use aptitude but ya that should work as well |
| 21:01.33 | welp | i use courier |
| 21:01.33 | grendal_prime | you have the email server working already? |
| 21:01.34 | Trev_ | apt-get works |
| 21:01.35 | Sparticus | kombi - its working fine, thanks for your help... wish there were more people like u around |
| 21:01.43 | Tassium | welp: That'll work, although the tarball is just as easy to use. Squirrelmail is REALLY self contained. I use cvs, myself. |
| 21:02.16 | grendal_prime | welp, if you use courier..i think its even simpler |
| 21:02.16 | Vasistha | if anyone knows media players well... I've got a funny problem. Looking for some kind of program that can identify aspect ratio or picture size, but I am limited to the list of programs that is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2623 |
| 21:02.18 | kombi | welcome, there are btw.. |
| 21:02.34 | welp | grendal_prime, lucky me, 'eh? :P |
| 21:03.00 | welp | grendal_prime, i already have one webmail thingie working, so it can't be TOO hard |
| 21:03.51 | welp | grendal_prime, ok, installed, now do i do squirrelmail-configure? |
| 21:04.18 | kombi | dpkg-reconfigure ? |
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| 21:05.12 | lcore | howto list (currently using update-rc.d -n -f daemond remove) at which runlevel and when a daemon is beeing run / stop? |
| 21:05.34 | welp | brb, need to get physical access to server upstairs |
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| 21:06.18 | kurumin | yuki vc deve ser muito gostosa |
| 21:06.24 | cr3 | anyone happen to have the perl Filename/Base.pm file installed? I can't find the corresponding package and apt-file search Filename/Base.pm is not returning anything |
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| 21:08.43 | Vasistha | cr3: did you try looking for Base.pm instead of Filename/Base.pm ? Also, are you sure there's not a case sensitivity problem? |
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| 21:09.25 | MDVz0r2 | im installing debian using etch beta 2-netinstall cd, im at the point where i need to install a boot loader, but somehow i get failures for lilo and grub, i've got 2 harddisks in raid0.. |
| 21:09.45 | usual | is there a way I can have the framebuffer console with a stock kernel? is there a module I need to load at boot or something |
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| 21:09.57 | welp | grendal_prime, by default, where do i find it? i know sqwebmail was http://domain.tld/cgi-bin/sqwebmail |
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| 21:11.52 | tero__ | please help me, how I mount my usb stick in my debian? |
| 21:12.10 | usual | tero__: it is prolly like /dev/sd something |
| 21:12.29 | usual | tero__: dmesg should show it connected |
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| 21:13.25 | usual | is there a kernel module I need to load to have a nice framebuffer console session instead of this huge text I have in console now |
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| 21:13.46 | tero__ | usual: dmesg shows that is connect but how I mount it? |
| 21:13.48 | usual | Gnea: wake up foolio |
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| 21:14.03 | tero__ | usual: what is the script |
| 21:14.08 | usual | tero__: first make a moun point dir like /mnt/stick or something |
| 21:14.10 | kriel | hey, what do i need to do to get my sound to work? I've got an ac97 audio card, and all that's happening right now is a really annoying staticky beat about twice a second. |
| 21:14.28 | usual | tero__: then mount /dev/sdwhatevrthedeviceis /mnt/stick |
| 21:15.08 | cahoot | kriel: what did you do up till now? |
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| 21:15.59 | kriel | cahoot: looked through aptitude for either ac97 or audio drivers, and found nothing. |
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| 21:16.20 | cahoot | kriel: trying alsa or oss? |
| 21:16.24 | cr3 | Vasistha: I have tried apt-file search Base.pm | grep Filename and nothing was returned. I am sure of the case for this perl module |
| 21:16.29 | spanglesontoast | how do I stop users from being able to roam in other home directories? |
| 21:16.45 | kriel | cahoot: ... uhm... -blank, noobish look- say wha? |
| 21:16.47 | abrotman | chroot/jail |
| 21:16.50 | formorer | spanglesontoast: chmod |
| 21:16.55 | cahoot | kriel: try alsaconf |
| 21:17.10 | Vasistha | spanglesontoast: chmod go-x /home/* |
| 21:17.59 | kurumin | tatiane fala coooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 21:18.17 | Covener | kriel: ac97 isn't really what you're looking for. lspci may be give you a audio chipset |
| 21:18.41 | kriel | Covener: i think that said unknown. |
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| 21:19.17 | cahoot | kriel: try update-pciids |
| 21:19.20 | chump | ok i ripped the dvd using dvdbackup now how would i burn it to disk? |
| 21:19.27 | chump | would i make it an iso first ? |
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| 21:19.42 | cr3 | Vasistha: actually, maybe there is no such module :( the reason I came upon this module is that there's some other program that apprently depends on it. I'll have to look into that |
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| 21:20.11 | beardy | !info dvdbackup |
| 21:20.15 | dpkg | dvdbackup: (tool to rip DVD's from the command line), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-6 (sid), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 84 kB |
| 21:20.31 | Vasistha | cr3: ask #perl ? ... could be that it's not packaged / maintained in debian |
| 21:20.32 | beardy | chump: If it isn't already, probably yes. |
| 21:20.36 | cahoot | kriel: after that run lspci again |
| 21:20.54 | kriel | 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) |
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| 21:21.04 | kriel | cahoot: is that what you're looking for? I don't see anything in there... |
| 21:21.12 | markus_ | Hello.. How can i Delete a file witchs ending "'" if i write rm firewall' i get a prompt like > |
| 21:21.30 | Tassium | markus_: Cheat - use tab completion. rm firewall<hit tab> |
| 21:21.34 | tero__ | usual: It go like this-- mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt (found in the net) |
| 21:21.46 | markus_ | Tassium: thx, |
| 21:21.47 | cahoot | kriel:yes - but it's not me looking - it's you ;) |
| 21:21.56 | tero__ | usual: thanks anyway :) |
| 21:22.00 | abrotman | markus_: try a \ |
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| 21:22.16 | kriel | cahoot: ... shush. >x; ... -looks- ... ... VT~~ is the chipset, isn't it? |
| 21:22.28 | markus_ | Tassium: it worked=) |
| 21:23.22 | Tassium | markus_: Pretty sweet, isn't it? |
| 21:23.42 | Covener | alsa sure knows about that symbol. |
| 21:23.55 | chump | beardy its as the VOB's |
| 21:23.58 | kriel | cahoot: alsa said it didn't find the card. |
| 21:24.11 | chump | so how would i do that i tried using mkisofs |
| 21:24.22 | chump | but there is no man pages and the help just confused the crap out of me |
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| 21:24.38 | cahoot | kriel: my guess is the alsa module should be snd-via82xx |
| 21:25.03 | snickel1650 | when I type in startx into the command line, I get these errors: "skipping "usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o": No symbols found.. (EE) failed to load module synaptics.. can anyone tell me what this means and what I need to do? |
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| 21:25.16 | snickel1650 | I did a minimal installation and I'm not sure if I've downloaded everything that I need to |
| 21:25.23 | chump | is dvd author better to do? |
| 21:25.24 | |dennis| | just a general hardware question..not too sure if it pertains to deb..but if i put in two quad(4) port nics into a box which makes it 8 nics, deb should pick it up without any irq conflicts...true??? |
| 21:25.32 | Perdignus | Hello - can someone tell me which package has the "tr" utility for text manipulation please? |
| 21:25.39 | cahoot | kriel: did you run alsaconf? |
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| 21:26.02 | kriel | cahoot: yeah. it said it didn't find the card, and i can't find the snd-via~~ |
| 21:26.25 | cahoot | kriel: tried modprobe snd-via82xxx? |
| 21:26.25 | kriel | cahoot: wait a sec... -blinks- ... how can i tell what kernel i'm running? |
| 21:26.32 | cahoot | kriel: tried modprobe snd-via82xx? |
| 21:26.40 | kriel | cahoot: nope. |
| 21:26.44 | Termin8-0 | do anyone knows how to add subtitles to an extracted divx movie? |
| 21:27.04 | cahoot | kriel: uname -r to know kernel |
| 21:27.04 | kriel | cahoot: didn't find anything. |
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| 21:27.28 | cahoot | kriel: no output is good news from modprobe |
| 21:27.43 | Perdignus | "tr" is also known as transliterate |
| 21:27.52 | kriel | cahoot: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-via82xx |
| 21:28.18 | cahoot | kriel: hm - selfcompiled kernel? |
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| 21:28.57 | kriel | cahoot: ... /me blinks, then digs 'noob' sign out of pocket and hangs around her neck- ... |
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| 21:29.18 | cahoot | kriel: uname -r |
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| 21:29.33 | Vasistha | Perdignus: that would probably be in gnu core utils |
| 21:29.34 | kriel | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 21:29.58 | cahoot | kriel: my bad - you need pull in alsa-modules |
| 21:29.58 | kriel | cahoot: but the problem is, all the ones that apt-cache finds are 2.4.27-3-blah |
| 21:30.10 | Maulkin | Perdignus: coreutils |
| 21:30.59 | grendal_prime | sorry on the sqwebmail deal did you get that worked out? |
| 21:31.08 | grendal_prime | there is a package for in in the stable repos |
| 21:31.17 | cahoot | kriel: so maybe you first need to upgrade kernel |
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| 21:31.44 | Perdignus | Thanks Vasistha and Maulkin you were right |
| 21:31.47 | kriel | cahoot: ehhh... ... the last time i tried updating kernel it clobberized my system... xx; |
| 21:31.59 | kriel | cahoot: albeit, that was... a few months ago... |
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| 21:32.38 | markus_ | ifconfig |
| 21:32.38 | markus_ | oops sorry |
| 21:33.05 | Dan39 | i need some helpin istallin, cant get internet to connect during install |
| 21:33.13 | kriel | cahoot: mya... can you point me somewhere about upgrading my kernel? |
| 21:33.23 | Dan39 | cuz i need to enter username/pw |
| 21:34.03 | Dan39 | eh? |
| 21:34.19 | beardy | Dan39: First, what kind of internet connection do you have? |
| 21:34.20 | cahoot | kriel: using debian a simple apt-get install should do it safely for you |
| 21:34.23 | Dan39 | dsl |
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| 21:34.39 | kriel | cahoot: apt-get install kernel ...? |
| 21:34.58 | Dan39 | trying to install businesscard cd |
| 21:35.28 | wiskywisky | hello guys, I'm trying to install debian, but this is not working... linux26 doesn-t recongnize my hard disk... (sata) is there a way to pass the argument to the installer to load sata support? I checked all the menu options and seems to be no sata... |
| 21:35.48 | chealer | Dan39: which release are you trying to install? |
| 21:35.56 | pbryan | wiskywisky: I've just spent 2 days getting SATA working. How can I help? |
| 21:36.05 | Dan39 | debian-31r2-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 21:36.19 | pbryan | wiskywisky: What release are you trying to install? |
| 21:36.23 | cahoot | kriel: apt-cache search kernel-image, the choose one, then apt-get install kernel-image-<of your choice> |
| 21:36.28 | wiskywisky | pbryan, ho my god... I don't want to spend that much... |
| 21:36.34 | pbryan | wiskywisky: I sure didn't. |
| 21:36.43 | chealer | Dan39: and what's the problem? |
| 21:36.50 | wiskywisky | sarge 3.1 |
| 21:36.59 | pbryan | wiskywisky: That's probably 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 21:37.00 | Dan39 | internet wont work |
| 21:37.09 | cahoot | kriel: stick to the latest 2.4 variant to minimise work |
| 21:37.18 | Dan39 | i need to enter in username/pw for my DSL but ti doesnt give me any options for that |
| 21:37.36 | wiskywisky | pbryan, yes, linux26 when booting but I don-t recongnize my hard disk.. maybe there's a special parameter to pass for sata to load? |
| 21:37.49 | chealer | Dan39: are you installing on a different computer than the one on which you are connected to #debian? |
| 21:37.54 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Probably not. A lot happened to fix SATA support in 2.6.11. |
| 21:37.56 | Dan39 | yes |
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| 21:38.07 | pbryan | wiskywisky: I'd recommend downloading the etch beta installer. |
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| 21:38.20 | chealer | Dan39: did you already use Debian or GNU/Linux? |
| 21:38.23 | kriel | cahoot: heh. okay. thanks. |
| 21:38.32 | Dan39 | no |
| 21:38.36 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Depending on the SATA chipset you have, you may need to add a kernel option to keep it from timing out on SATA access. |
| 21:38.47 | bluefox83 | is anyone else having a problem getting the nvidia drivers in debian working ? |
| 21:38.47 | Dan39 | i had damn small linux on it with internet working |
| 21:38.51 | wiskywisky | pbryan, humm, this is strange, but with kernel 2.4 it-s working... however getting a 2.6 image doesn-t... is it possible to get that 2.6.11 image? |
| 21:38.58 | kriel | cahoot: one more question. is there a way/command/something to make it so that it searches my local disks for packages first, and if they aren't available (aka not in the drive) then get them from online...? |
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| 21:39.18 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Yes, 2.4 indeed had better SATA support for quite some time. 2.6 is really catching up. 2.6 exposes SATA drives as SCSI devices in 2.6. |
| 21:39.27 | Dan39 | but that had the pppoe settings thing |
| 21:39.27 | wiskywisky | pbryan, I have: Intel Corp. 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA Controller |
| 21:39.37 | chealer | Dan39: ah, so you already used GNU/Linux then. good, because it's not really easy. you have to go to tty2 and try installing pppoeconf |
| 21:39.40 | pbryan | wiskywisky: That will probably work out-of-box with >= 2.6.11. |
| 21:40.00 | pbryan | wiskywisky: IIRC, etch installer has 2.6.15 kernel. |
| 21:40.06 | wiskywisky | pbryan, but how can I configure my apt-get source list to have access to that 2.6.11 image? |
| 21:40.13 | Dan39 | =\ w/e that means |
| 21:40.19 | beardy | chealer: Is that on the businesscard disc? |
| 21:40.28 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Sure, if you switch from stable to testing/unstable. |
| 21:40.32 | wiskywisky | pbryan, but I'll like to keep with sarge... |
| 21:40.34 | Dan39 | how do i install ppoeconf if i cant even get debian to install in the 1st place? |
| 21:40.36 | cahoot | kriel: I'm not very knowledgable about the inner workings of apt - but my impression is that it doesn't refetch already present debs |
| 21:40.47 | chealer | beardy: I don't know. I know it's not possible to do that with the businesscard on Etch, but I don't know about sarge |
| 21:40.57 | wiskywisky | pbryan, is there a nice way to do that without breaking everything? |
| 21:41.05 | chealer | Dan39: pppoeconf is a part of Debian |
| 21:41.06 | pbryan | wiskywisky: You could probably download the just kernel only from testing. |
| 21:41.11 | kriel | cahoot: yeah, but i ONLY set it up to grab it off of my disk... |
| 21:41.20 | wiskywisky | pbryan, I'm going to give it a try <( |
| 21:41.22 | beardy | Dan39: You can install the base system, can't you? |
| 21:41.32 | pbryan | wiskywisky: /msg me to let me know how it worked. |
| 21:41.32 | Dan39 | ummm |
| 21:41.47 | cahoot | kriel: as in no external souces for apt? |
| 21:41.54 | Dan39 | i think it kept saying i have to select a mirrow |
| 21:41.56 | Dan39 | mirror |
| 21:41.58 | wiskywisky | pbryan, thanks ! |
| 21:42.04 | kriel | cahoot: yeah. |
| 21:42.16 | Dan39 | h/o lemme try skipping the mirror selection again |
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| 21:42.43 | chealer | Dan39: at least for larger install mediums (starting from netinst), it's possible to skip that even though it looks like you're doing something dirty |
| 21:42.49 | cahoot | kriel: so in effect upgrades are not possible? why? bandwidthlimit? |
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| 21:43.14 | Dan39 | 1 sec i need ot hook this keyboard up to other comp to hit enter, sinc eon 1st debian installs creen it dont recognize usb keyboard lol |
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| 21:43.37 | kriel | cahoot: ... uhm... cause i was stupid when i set it up. uu; ... but is there a way to re-set it up? i couldn't find a command for that... |
| 21:43.57 | cahoot | kriel: apt-setup I think |
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| 21:44.00 | bluefox83 | i think the nvidia one-liner is wrong =( |
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| 21:44.52 | kriel | cahoot: dosen't look like it. |
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| 21:45.48 | kriel | cahoot: this static is kinda catchy. ... for the first half an hour of it. Xx; |
| 21:45.54 | TTT_Travis | anyone here know any shell scripting? |
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| 21:46.02 | TTT_Travis | how would I make this work http://pastebin.com/735950 |
| 21:46.10 | cahoot | kriel: using srage or etch or what? |
| 21:46.21 | beardy | Dan39: Perhaps you can use your USB keyboard on the computer that you are irc:ing from, so you can use both computers at the same time? |
| 21:46.29 | TTT_Travis | it gives me |
| 21:46.30 | kriel | cahoot: sarge. just can't get alsa to read my sound at the moment... |
| 21:46.30 | TTT_Travis | [: too many arguments |
| 21:46.50 | wiskywisky | pbryan, can't see kernel 2.6.11 in apt-cache list |
| 21:46.52 | kriel | cahoot: oh, and it told me my kernel is already up-to-date. ><; |
| 21:47.02 | pbryan | wiskywisky: No, in etch the latest kernel is 2.6.16. |
| 21:47.23 | wiskywisky | pbryan, should I use that? |
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| 21:47.29 | cahoot | kriel: figures since you only update against your local repository |
| 21:47.41 | kriel | cahoot: yeah... Xx; |
| 21:47.53 | cahoot | kriel: unless I totally misunderstands your setup |
| 21:48.01 | TTT_Travis | nevermind, got it |
| 21:48.08 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Sure. |
| 21:48.09 | wiskywisky | pbryan, can't see that... I just changed the stable to each in apt source file? |
| 21:48.16 | ZEA | is anyone able to run opera on debian etch amd64? |
| 21:48.22 | pbryan | Are you looking for linux-image-* |
| 21:48.28 | Dan39 | that could work lol |
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| 21:48.51 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Debian changed naming of linux kernel around 2.6.11 as well, IIRC. |
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| 21:49.07 | kriel | cahoot: no, that's right. now, i just need to figure out how to change it. |
| 21:49.10 | smagy2 | hello folks, i need to remove about 120 ssh keys from known_hosts file, however i am not too good with sed/awk, would appreciate some suggestions, i tried something like this, for in i `seq 10 60`; do cat known_hosts.backup | grep -v host$i > tmpfile; mv tmpfile known_hosts.backup; done but known_hosts.backup is empty at the end. not sure what's going wrong |
| 21:49.28 | wiskywisky | pbryan, I have 2.6.8-11 will that be the one? not sure |
| 21:49.29 | cahoot | kriel: add a line like : deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib to /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:49.40 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Nope, that's what's already installed. |
| 21:49.50 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Did you update? |
| 21:50.02 | Dan39 | dang it i need to restart for nomal keyboard to work, this on-creen keyboard is slow |
| 21:50.11 | Dan39 | o well |
| 21:50.15 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Are you using dselect? |
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| 21:50.48 | wiskywisky | pbryan, no, apt |
| 21:50.54 | pbryan | wiskywisky: apt-get update |
| 21:50.54 | wiskywisky | pbryan, console |
| 21:50.59 | DrBanzai | What would cause my computer to hang right after the Freeing Kernel memory message? |
| 21:51.04 | wiskywisky | pbryan, done... give me a sec |
| 21:51.15 | beardy | smagy2: Is this a one time removal? Perhaps it's simpler just to edit the file, and remove them by hand, if they are in a sequence. |
| 21:51.17 | pbryan | wiskywisky: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
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| 21:51.56 | kriel | cahoot: space between debian/_sarge or not? |
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| 21:52.11 | cahoot | space |
| 21:52.19 | bluefox83 | i need help getting the debian nvidia drivers to work..for some reason everything is loaded but xorg says the nvidia and glx drivers aren't there |
| 21:52.25 | daqqal | hello |
| 21:52.36 | wiskywisky | pbryan, this thing wants to install a lot of things... huge amount of dependencies and similar |
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| 21:52.49 | chealer | bluefox83: please an error message, if possible |
| 21:52.51 | pbryan | wiskywisky: I suspected as much because of the way it now creates initramfs... |
| 21:52.59 | Dan39 | wat r PCMIA cards, network card? |
| 21:53.06 | pbryan | wiskywisky: This is why I figured you'd need to upgrade to etch... |
| 21:53.09 | wiskywisky | pbryan, 81 updated, 84 new installed, is that ok? |
| 21:53.09 | smagy2 | beardy: i have 120 enteries to remove |
| 21:53.19 | chealer | Dan39: not necessarily, it's a bit like PCI for laptop |
| 21:53.23 | bluefox83 | crap..where's it keep the logs? |
| 21:53.26 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Etch is in pretty good shape, so, I'd say yes. Ultimately you need to decide. |
| 21:53.36 | Dan39 | think i need? |
| 21:53.37 | chealer | bluefox83: /var/log/X... |
| 21:53.53 | wiskywisky | pbryan, but etch is not the last one? I mean the one that sometimes breaks? |
| 21:53.54 | chealer | Dan39: if you're installing on a laptop, you don't need PCMCIA support |
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| 21:53.56 | beardy | smagy2: It's not that much. |
| 21:54.02 | MDVz0r2 | i have two harddisks (sda, sdb), and i want to use softraid with them, how do i configure this using the etch-beta2 netinstaller? |
| 21:54.06 | wiskywisky | etch = unstable or = testing? |
| 21:54.09 | pbryan | wiskywisky: No, that's sid/unstable. Etch is testing. |
| 21:54.19 | beardy | smagy2: But you can try asking in #bash aswell, if you want to do it your way. |
| 21:54.26 | smagy2 | beardy: well it is a problem if you have to hunt those 120 enteries in 3000 enteries |
| 21:54.36 | wiskywisky | pbryan, ok, so etch is ok... sid is dangerous? |
| 21:54.53 | wiskywisky | I'll go with etch then, thanks |
| 21:54.54 | pbryan | wiskywisky: I use sid. It's not often dangerous. Debian packagers are generally pretty good, even with sid. |
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| 21:55.00 | smagy2 | beardy: i did, and nobody responded |
| 21:55.07 | cahoot | wiskywisky: etch is the testing variant of unstable ;) |
| 21:55.24 | DrBanzai | What would cause my computer to hang right after the Freeing Kernel memory message? |
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| 21:55.38 | beardy | smagy2: So, what is the thing you are searching for, to remove, host1 to host60? |
| 21:55.51 | wiskywisky | is there a place that show how to configure apt source to go etch? I-m not sure about the security packages?? |
| 21:56.01 | wiskywisky | there was like a issue with that if I remember right? |
| 21:56.21 | Dan39 | its saying "debian cannot figure out how to install. no installable cd rom or valid mirror provided" |
| 21:56.23 | Dan39 | isnt the debian-31r2-i386-businesscard.iso an installable cd-rom? |
| 21:56.38 | grendal_prime | On files.jabber.com, we have written a shell script that will delete files within the dav directory that are older than 3 hours. This script is run as a cron job every 5 minutes and ensures that the hard drive does not fill up with old files. If you would like a copy of this script (entitled davclear.sh) feel free to e-mail jmeyering@jabber.com or request it from a Jabber, Inc r |
| 21:56.39 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Security updates are now performed against etch too, so you can use the same URLs with only changing sarge to etch (or testing). |
| 21:56.43 | grendal_prime | oops soory |
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| 21:56.49 | bluefox83 | where's the pastebot? |
| 21:56.53 | wiskywisky | pbryan, thanks!! :) |
| 21:56.54 | cahoot | DrBanzai: try this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/02/msg00588.html |
| 21:56.59 | bluefox83 | i need the site to past etoo |
| 21:57.02 | bluefox83 | *paste too |
| 21:57.06 | pbryan | wiskywisky: NP. |
| 21:57.14 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Let me know how your new kernel works when you boot it. |
| 21:57.26 | Z_God | my libc6 just got upgraded on my debian etch install and now I have all sorts of weird problems (programs segfaulting, nis not working, etc.), is there any easy way to downgrade back? |
| 21:57.32 | grendal_prime | that was an accident but that is sort of what im looking to doo |
| 21:57.35 | DrBanzai | Thanks cahoot |
| 21:57.39 | beardy | smagy2: It's really not that tiresome to search for them by hand, if you use gpm, and your favourite editor. But please tell us a bit clearer what the lines look like that you want to remove. |
| 21:57.46 | Dan39 | i guess ill jus hit continue and see what happens |
| 21:57.51 | chealer | Dan39: I don't think so, it needs access to the Internet |
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| 21:58.20 | wiskywisky | pbryan, I'll but this is going to take a while... 640kbp link here... |
| 21:58.25 | DrBanzai | cahoot, What is apic? |
| 21:58.33 | pbryan | wiskywisky: Alright. |
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| 21:59.11 | Dan39 | =\ |
| 21:59.36 | Dan39 | lol how i gonan get access if i dont got ppoeconf untill after its installed |
| 22:00.09 | cahoot | DrBanzai: hmm - Advanced Programable Interrupt Controler (or such) |
| 22:00.28 | beardy | Dan39: What is it going to install now, when it asks for a connection? If it says that.. |
| 22:00.29 | DrBanzai | cahoot, Ahh, do you know if that applies to a Sun Sparc? |
| 22:01.03 | chealer | Dan39: you need to install pppoeconf before the Debian installation is complete |
| 22:01.04 | raf256 | debian update in unstalbe sucks |
| 22:01.05 | cahoot | DrBanzai: I'd disabled it ( never seen a sparc) |
| 22:01.18 | DrBanzai | cahoot, Ok, thanks! |
| 22:01.27 | raf256 | *upgrade. it takes several restarts, each takes about 5 minutes.. grrrrr |
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| 22:01.44 | raf256 | apt-get dist-upgrade then apt-get install -f and so on like 5 times |
| 22:01.48 | chealer | raf256: please keep it on-topic |
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| 22:02.46 | raf256 | chealer: I'm considering moving to stable one day.. when approx. all what is in todays unstable will be in stable? in like.. 3 months? 6? year? |
| 22:02.50 | Dan39 | how do i go about doing that? |
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| 22:03.04 | spidercatmx | hi |
| 22:03.10 | spidercatmx | can anyone help me? |
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| 22:03.19 | spidercatmx | i have a problem with mi net config |
| 22:03.19 | chealer | Dan39: you have to go to tty2 and try installing pppoeconf |
| 22:03.25 | DrBanzai | What is the minimum RAM requirment for the 3.1 installer? |
| 22:03.27 | Dan39 | tty2? |
| 22:03.28 | beardy | !etch pool |
| 22:03.29 | dpkg | it has been said that etch pool is Come and bet on when Etch will be released. Ask me about "listkeys etch pool" to find all of the bets, and "etch bet" to find out how to bet. |
| 22:03.42 | spidercatmx | i do ping to another host and it does not answer |
| 22:03.44 | chealer | Dan39: press Ctrl+Alt+F2 |
| 22:03.54 | wiskywisky | which one is the fastest node?? |
| 22:03.58 | chealer | !tell raf256 about wwer |
| 22:04.01 | Sparticus | hi, im trying to install something on my server and it tells me to add "ethernet_dev=eth0:devicename |
| 22:04.03 | wiskywisky | s/node/mirror? |
| 22:04.30 | chealer | DrBanzai: 32 MB |
| 22:04.31 | raf256 | RSN =) |
| 22:04.40 | DrBanzai | chealer, Thanks |
| 22:04.45 | Dan39 | h/o lol i need to take keyboard back to hit enter |
| 22:04.59 | bluefox83 | i can't seem to find nvidia-glx :( |
| 22:05.23 | zood_ | Is there an NES emulator that can run fullscreen without opengl? |
| 22:05.35 | Sparticus | hi, im trying to install something on my server and it tells me to add "ethernet_dev=eth0:devicename" to "/usr/local/directadmin/conf/directadmin.conf" and i need to replace "devicename" with the FULL device name reported by "ifconfig", ive typed "ifconfig" but I dont know what im looking for, can someone help me please? |
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| 22:05.49 | thingfish | bluefox83: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 22:06.49 | beardy | Sparticus: Try with "ethernet_dev=eth0" |
| 22:07.24 | Sparticus | beardy - but it tells me to use |
| 22:07.31 | Sparticus | :devicename after that |
| 22:07.48 | beardy | Sparticus: I doubt you have one. Try it? |
| 22:08.14 | Sparticus | ok |
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| 22:08.31 | Dan39 | ok the console is active |
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| 22:08.49 | Dan39 | wats this command to install pppoeconf |
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| 22:09.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 816] by debhelper |
| 22:09.00 | chealer | Dan39: now try # apt-get install pppoeconf ...may not work too |
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| 22:09.43 | beardy | dondelelcaro: an "admin" sort, it looks like.. |
| 22:09.45 | Dan39 | apt-get not found |
| 22:10.34 | chealer | Dan39: hum, are you able to check if there's a pppoeconf deb on the CD? |
| 22:10.43 | Dan39 | yea |
| 22:10.50 | Dan39 | i got the iso on this comp |
| 22:11.11 | Dan39 | may not be one since its businesscard? |
| 22:11.13 | sophacles | hi all. i was doing some random updates to my laptop, one of these included wpa_supplicant. Now (despite following all the readmes etc) i cant get the damn thing to work. so im asking you all for help but am nto sure where to start. |
| 22:11.21 | chealer | Dan39: right |
| 22:11.31 | Dan39 | where would pppoeconf be? |
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| 22:11.51 | krang | is there any way to make apt instal "recommended' packages with a package? |
| 22:12.12 | dondelelcaro | krang: use aptitude instad. |
| 22:12.16 | chealer | krang: not yet |
| 22:12.32 | krang | rightho, I think I'll start doing that |
| 22:12.36 | krang | thanks guys |
| 22:12.47 | beardy | Dan39: Search. |
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| 22:14.15 | Brox | hi, i installed oracle xe's debian package but because of a bug the required bc package was not installed. I read that apt-get remove and a postmortem installation of bc does not solve the problem (because apt-get remove leaves allot of stuff untoucht)... How can i get rid of my primary installation completly? |
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| 22:15.19 | Dan39 | didnt find any pppoe anything |
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| 22:15.42 | Maulkin | Brox: try apt-get --purge <packagename> |
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| 22:16.44 | chealer | Dan39: check for pool/main/p/pppoeconf |
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| 22:17.07 | Dan39 | i used winrar to search the whole entire archive dude, its not anywhere, ill look anyways lol |
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| 22:17.29 | Dan39 | theres a ppp |
| 22:17.30 | Dan39 | lol |
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| 22:18.01 | dhuv | hello all |
| 22:18.05 | bluefox83 | arg...i am having the worste time getting my nvidia kernel modules to work!!!! |
| 22:18.08 | Dan39 | file name ppp-udeb_2.4.3.... |
| 22:18.29 | dhuv | I am still having my debian etch system with 2.6.15 kernel load my sound card properly |
| 22:18.31 | Dan39 | doesnt really look like pppoe tho |
| 22:18.31 | Dan39 | lol |
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| 22:19.05 | dhuv | dmesg shows that my isa awe 64 gold is detected, but /proc/asound/cards displays no soundcard |
| 22:19.22 | chealer | Dan39: ppp is the most important part. pppoeconf is mostly a shell script. if you can see a way to transfer one file to the PC, you could run it that way |
| 22:19.37 | Dan39 | floppy? |
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| 22:20.15 | beardy | Dan39: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/01/msg00674.html |
| 22:20.24 | chealer | Dan39: you could try that. usr/sbin/pppoeconf would fit on anything |
| 22:20.42 | dhuv | after the modprobe of snd-sb16 or snd-sbawe, I get the following in dmesg "Sound Blaster 16 soundcard not found or device busy" |
| 22:21.03 | robin__sz | hmm .. so what Debian apps exist to work with my Hauppauge BTTV card as a tv monitor? |
| 22:21.08 | Dan39 | wat is "sarge" just the name of the release? |
| 22:21.28 | robin__sz | Dan39, yes, basically a release name |
| 22:21.30 | beardy | Dan39: Follow chealer's advice and try that way first, before getting another iso though. |
| 22:21.35 | chealer | Dan39: it's Debian 3.1's codename, yes |
| 22:21.38 | loxley_ | Dan39: its a vewwwy secwet codename |
| 22:22.30 | Dan39 | ooo cool |
| 22:22.31 | Dan39 | lol |
| 22:22.41 | Brox | Maulkin: doesn't it have to be apt-get remove --purge package? |
| 22:22.41 | Dan39 | where can i download the pppoeconf? |
| 22:22.54 | Maulkin | Brox: That's the one. |
| 22:23.06 | beardy | !pdo |
| 22:23.07 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 22:23.11 | beardy | Dan39: ^^^ |
| 22:23.16 | Dan39 | lol ok |
| 22:23.19 | snickel1650 | is there anyway I can replace the xf86config-4 file? |
| 22:23.32 | snickel1650 | with an original one I mean |
| 22:23.58 | beardy | snickel1650: Just copy it? But backup your old one first. |
| 22:24.02 | Dan39 | =O http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/pppoeconf |
| 22:24.04 | Maulkin | snickel1650: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" should do it |
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| 22:24.11 | Dan39 | lol ill see what i cna do |
| 22:24.17 | SlayerXP | Maulkin: you old tart, you |
| 22:24.26 | Maulkin | SlayerXP: Lo :) |
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| 22:24.42 | beardy | snickel1650: You probably want what Maulkin said yes. |
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| 22:24.57 | snickel1650 | maulkin: I tried doing that, but it seems not to have any effect. Even after the changes I make, debian still generates errors |
| 22:25.08 | Maulkin | snickel1650: What's the errors? |
| 22:25.27 | beardy | snickel1650: It wont work until you configure it correctly. What errors? |
| 22:25.32 | MDVz0r2 | i'm installing debian via netinstall, i'm at the point where i need to install a bootloader, but both, lilo and grub give me errors.. what can i do? |
| 22:25.45 | beardy | MDVz0r2: What errors? |
| 22:25.51 | snickel1650 | "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found |
| 22:25.58 | MDVz0r2 | beardy: for grub: Unable to install GRUB in (hd0).? Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed.? |
| 22:25.59 | MDVz0r2 | > This is a fatal error. |
| 22:26.01 | snickel1650 | and |
| 22:26.06 | Dan39 | if i pop in the floppy and do apt-get will it search floppy also? |
| 22:26.10 | MDVz0r2 | and for lilo: Running "/sbin/lilo" failed with error code "1" |
| 22:26.16 | snickel1650 | EE) Failed to load module "synaptics" (module does not exist) |
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| 22:26.35 | beardy | Dan39: No. What are you trying to install now? pppoeconf? |
| 22:26.40 | Dan39 | yea |
| 22:26.48 | Dan39 | i got it on floppy |
| 22:26.49 | Dan39 | the .deb |
| 22:26.54 | ChrisW | hmm, is there any way I can get ls just to list the permissions, group and owner without showing the size and modified date? |
| 22:26.57 | beardy | Dan39: Is dpkg available? |
| 22:27.07 | Dan39 | ? |
| 22:27.08 | ChrisW | so, like ls -l, but without the size or mod date... |
| 22:27.20 | Dan39 | dpkg? |
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| 22:27.25 | beardy | Dan39: type 'dpkg -h', what happens? |
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| 22:27.47 | Dan39 | dpkg not found |
| 22:27.48 | Dan39 | =\ |
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| 22:28.01 | DrBanzai | During an install, what is SUPPOSED to happen right after the "freeing kernel memory" message? |
| 22:28.09 | chealer | doh |
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| 22:28.41 | Dan39 | they should really add pppoeconf into businesscard, its only 38kb, not that much of an addition |
| 22:29.06 | beardy | Dan39: It depends on lots of things. |
| 22:29.14 | Dan39 | lol |
| 22:29.39 | chealer | Dan39: is the plog command available? |
| 22:29.41 | snickel1650 | ok I think I'm going to just reinstall debian |
| 22:29.42 | stu7 | such as... what does pppoeconf really offer that businesscard doesn't already do |
| 22:29.52 | MDVz0r2 | beardy: you got any clue..? |
| 22:29.54 | beardy | Dan39: But if you only need the binary, pppoeconf, then perhaps this may work. |
| 22:30.03 | beardy | MDVz0r2: About what? |
| 22:30.07 | chealer | stu7: PPPoE connections configuration? |
| 22:30.15 | beardy | oh |
| 22:30.30 | snickel1650 | besides the x-window-system-core and gnome what other packages should I install? I'm going to use the min. installation disk |
| 22:30.31 | Dan39 | plog not found |
| 22:30.47 | MDVz0r2 | beardy: about grub/lilo not getting loaded into the MBR |
| 22:30.50 | chealer | Dan39: hum, it may be better to try a netinst then |
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| 22:30.56 | backz | is trustly packages from dotdeb? Will I crazy if use it in a production server? |
| 22:31.14 | MDVz0r2 | i'm using RAID0, 2 harddisks sda/sdb |
| 22:31.15 | Dan39 | does the netinst like download all 13 discs? lol |
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| 22:31.22 | beardy | backz: No, run sarge, and only use sarge's packages. |
| 22:31.36 | chealer | beardy: pppoeconf doesn't depend on lots of things |
| 22:31.47 | beardy | !depends pppoeconf |
| 22:31.53 | dpkg | pppoeconf: depends on whiptail-provider | whiptail, ppp (>= 2.4.2+20040428-2) | pppoe (>= 3.0), ppp (>= 2.4.1.uus2-4), gettext-base (>= 0.13), sed (>= 3.95) |
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| 22:31.58 | snickel1650 | I found this http://www.dw-itsecurity.de/content/view/40/95/ (I'm running an r51) and so I thought if I just pasted that into my xfconfig file, it'd work, but so far, it's only creating problems |
| 22:32.01 | chealer | Dan39: heh, no, it only downloads what you want |
| 22:32.01 | ras | Is there any Programin the whole linuxdom that can create swf animation or anything close??? |
| 22:32.05 | backz | beardy, sarge haven't php5, clamav 0.88, etc... |
| 22:32.06 | backz | hehehe |
| 22:32.22 | beardy | backz: Then use the versions it has. |
| 22:32.23 | Dan39 | my friend was telling me that netinst is buggy and doesnt work too well |
| 22:32.27 | Dan39 | lol |
| 22:32.30 | Dan39 | but i dunno |
| 22:33.02 | Ronin | its worked fine for me everytime Dan39, i think your friend is on crack ;) |
| 22:33.07 | beardy | chealer: Well, no, perhaps not a lot, but I don't know if it's available in the businesscardcd. |
| 22:33.09 | stu7 | ras... swf... ummm proprietary ? |
| 22:33.10 | loxley_ | Dan39: has your friend gone through some lobotomy? |
| 22:33.17 | Dan39 | lobotomy? lol |
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| 22:33.34 | Ronin | better a bottle in front of me etc. |
| 22:33.38 | Dan39 | i dunno but hes pretty big into linux, but i think netinst will prolly work fine lol |
| 22:33.47 | lo_tek | i only d/l'ed one of the iso cd images, that's all one needs really |
| 22:33.51 | beardy | MDVz0r2: grub and lilo wanted to install on the first IDE drive, but you seem to use SCSI? That's why. |
| 22:34.06 | lo_tek | the 13 files are sort of like customizations, right? |
| 22:34.19 | Pat_ | probleme for debian-fr is not possible dialogue irc |
| 22:34.21 | MDVz0r2 | beardy: i also have a hda drive, so that shouldn't be a problem, right..? |
| 22:34.27 | beardy | MDVz0r2: And I don't know about raid, what you have to do to install a bootloader on it. |
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| 22:34.52 | stu7 | lo_tek... hehe... I think those 13 "files" are debian |
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| 22:35.09 | MDVz0r2 | beardy: i have exactly this http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/08/msg00108.html problem, except i dont have a dell and im using x86, how can i load initrd..? |
| 22:35.11 | chealer | beardy: if ppp is there, pppoeconf should be there too |
| 22:35.26 | lo_tek | stu7: duh, lol |
| 22:35.31 | Dan39 | lol |
| 22:35.31 | beardy | chealer: Ok. I don't know. |
| 22:35.36 | Teddy | hi all, could anyone help me set up alsa drivers for debian 3.1 (kernel 2.6) . My card is a Intel card : http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6&module=intel8x0 |
| 22:35.43 | Dan39 | pppoeconf aint there tho |
| 22:35.50 | ras | oooooooooooooohh sorry so is there any open source substitute or community development that tries to implement animation techniques for the web... if not i guess its a good idea to start |
| 22:35.57 | snickel1650 | is there anyway I can reinstall the packages I downloaded? |
| 22:36.15 | Maulkin | snickel1650: dpkg -i <.deb file> |
| 22:36.19 | cureless | ras: let us know when you're done |
| 22:36.21 | Dan39 | theres no way to use the pppoeconf from floppy? |
| 22:36.32 | Pat_ | pfff debian -fr ne fonctionne plus il faut un pass comment faire ? |
| 22:36.35 | stu7 | ras... there are several freeware animation projects... depends |
| 22:36.44 | Maulkin | snickel1650: apt stores them in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 22:36.50 | Maulkin | !fr |
| 22:36.50 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 22:37.08 | robin__sz | oh quand meme! |
| 22:37.09 | chealer | Dan39: the problem is that ppp is not installed, and dpkg doesn't seem installed neither. are you as far as you can go in the installation? |
| 22:37.11 | beardy | yuck, top-posting.. |
| 22:37.14 | stu7 | somebody tell me... what did dpkg just say ?? :) |
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| 22:37.19 | cureless | Pat_: le problemme est'ce que c'est interdite de parler que-anglais ici |
| 22:37.41 | chealer | Pat_: the IRC channel? |
| 22:37.56 | stu7 | jabber is more... err... private chat networks ? |
| 22:37.56 | Dan39 | ummm unless i can install the other things after base system without having the base system lol |
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| 22:38.12 | chealer | stu7: it translated what it said |
| 22:38.20 | grendal_prime | i wonder how much more difficult it would be to send files via dcc through firewalls |
| 22:38.29 | beardy | stu7: You seem to talk english, it said the same thing in english. |
| 22:38.30 | grendal_prime | because its damn impossitble with jabber |
| 22:38.32 | cureless | grendal_prime: it's dificult. |
| 22:38.36 | chealer | Dan39: I guess not, then. try the netinst |
| 22:38.48 | ras | can u tell me any of those projects offhand/ |
| 22:38.50 | cureless | grendal_prime: but depends on your nat capability. |
| 22:38.50 | robin__sz | cureless, not forbidden, but in general, you get a better response to .fr on debian-fr |
| 22:38.50 | Pat_ | chealer oui debian-fr et dsl pour mon mauvais anglais mais je ne peu dialoguer il me demande un pass |
| 22:39.12 | grendal_prime | i have complete control of the routers |
| 22:39.14 | grendal_prime | on both ends |
| 22:39.22 | cureless | robin__sz: try and speak in something else and see what happens. you'll get the boot. |
| 22:39.29 | beardy | ras: Search, using google, and search on freshmeat.net, and on sourceforge.net. Or if you want to start making such a thing, go ahead and good luck with the project. |
| 22:39.33 | Dan39 | ok ill get netinst |
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| 22:39.40 | Dan39 | lucky i used cd-rw =P |
| 22:39.42 | synan | lo all |
| 22:39.58 | grendal_prime | but....several people on both ends that will need to send to ..anyone on ither side of the cloud |
| 22:40.00 | chealer | Pat_: there's no password required here |
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| 22:40.18 | synan | my machine will not let me "su" to anything all of a sudden.. any ideas? it gives me invalid pass after one char typed.. someone mentioned linux-pam could be the prob? |
| 22:40.38 | Pat_ | cureless desoler de mon mauvais anglais pais plus moyen de dialoger sur debian-fr |
| 22:41.02 | zenwryly | Is there a way to make GTK copying or cutting go to the X clipboard as well? |
| 22:41.03 | Pat_ | chealer yes its very libre |
| 22:41.05 | Dan39 | is there some way i can install debian from inside dsl linux? |
| 22:41.16 | cureless | Pat_: il n y a pas de problem avec #debian-fr pour mois. |
| 22:41.22 | chealer | Pat_: try joining #debianfr meanwhile |
| 22:41.29 | Dan39 | nvm that |
| 22:41.34 | Dan39 | i dont have 2 cd rom drives |
| 22:41.35 | Dan39 | lol |
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| 22:41.46 | Dan39 | netinst it will be |
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| 22:42.13 | cureless | zenwryly: when you select it with the mouse it does. |
| 22:43.00 | Pat_ | cureless ok tank you y am sorry the probleme is me debian-fr lol |
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| 22:43.22 | humbolt | When I want to resize ext3 or xfs the beginning of the partition has to stay in the same place. what if I am using lvm? then all this is virtual anyway therefore the beginning might stay where it is in any case?! enlighten me please. |
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| 22:43.54 | zenwryly | cureless: yes, but I don't want to have to move the mouse to the location bar of my browser and select across all the text. I want to do C-l C-a C-c and then middle click in an xterm and "paste" it |
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| 22:44.03 | smax | fellaz |
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| 22:44.13 | Pat_ | cureless tank you a + |
| 22:44.20 | cureless | Pat_: a+ |
| 22:44.22 | snickel1650 | Maulkin: that did replace the archived file, but I'm trying to replace the file that is accessed by KDE. Is there any way I can delete that and replace it with an unmodified file? |
| 22:44.32 | Pat_ | merci a tous |
| 22:44.44 | smax | whats is the latest apt repository? Like ubuntu Breezy right? |
| 22:44.51 | k-god | humbolt: lvm has its own resizing procedures. See the LVM Howto for info. |
| 22:44.55 | bluefox83 | whats the address to paste to the pastebot? |
| 22:44.59 | beardy | MDVz0r2: I guess you give it the initrd with just "initrd /initrd-2.?.?-something.img" when you try to boot interactively with grub, but I'm not sure. |
| 22:45.04 | streuner | !paste |
| 22:45.04 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 22:45.11 | k-god | smax: /msg dpkg releases |
| 22:45.11 | streuner | smax: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 22:45.12 | cureless | zenwryly: you already need to use the mouse, it's not that hard. Otherwise use a term that supports copy/paste |
| 22:45.39 | k-god | smax: sid == unstable, etch == testing, sarge == stable. There's other bits out there like experimental but don't touch if you have to ask. |
| 22:45.48 | smax | how do i change my repos in source.list from my Debian CD to the internet repos |
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| 22:45.54 | k-god | smax: man sources.list |
| 22:46.08 | smax | ahh a man for sources.list ehh? |
| 22:46.09 | beardy | smax: apt-setup |
| 22:46.09 | smax | nice |
| 22:46.14 | smax | cool |
| 22:46.18 | synan | so no ideas on my prob? |
| 22:46.23 | cureless | smax: don't use sid |
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| 22:46.31 | k-god | smax: In a properly managed 'Nix distro, all commands and config files have manpages. |
| 22:46.39 | k-god | smax: Debian aspires to that ideal. |
| 22:46.42 | smax | will apt-set up help me set up the latest/popular repos? |
| 22:46.58 | humbolt | k-god: but I have to resive the fs as well |
| 22:47.01 | k-god | smax: Um. You misunderstand repos. |
| 22:47.02 | humbolt | don't I |
| 22:47.03 | Shibathedog | hello i need some help downloading Debian, I want to get the DVD Image, and i was just wondering what the difference between Binary 1 and Binary 2 where |
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| 22:47.14 | k-god | humbolt: You have to resize the FS and the LV. |
| 22:47.26 | k-god | humbolt: Mind you get the order right: LV then FS for grow, FS then LV for shrink. |
| 22:47.29 | k-god | humbolt: IIRC. |
| 22:47.36 | beardy | Shibathedog: Everything, Debian Sarge takes two DVD:s. |
| 22:47.42 | smax | k-god: yes i knew UNIX system calls and commands have manpages, never knew .conf files did as well |
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| 22:47.51 | Shibathedog | ahh okay, thank you very much then! |
| 22:47.55 | beardy | Shibathedog: But if you have a connection to download that, use the netinstaller instead. |
| 22:48.02 | beardy | !d-i Shibathedog |
| 22:48.02 | dpkg | Shibathedog, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 22:48.06 | k-god | smax: Debian is a set of standard repos. There are third party repos for certain packages *outside* of Debian. Eg: marillat for a/v codices. |
| 22:48.20 | Pat_ | kkk |
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| 22:48.22 | k-god | smax: /msg dpkg marillat. |
| 22:48.27 | Shibathedog | ive never used a net installer, would that be able to format my second HDD and install it on there? |
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| 22:48.31 | NaufraGo | come on, how quake2's audio doesn't work, I have all audio modules great, audio work on my debian. q2 gives me 'loading oss sound output driver, ok ... /dev/dsp: Input/output error ... SNDDMA_Init: Could not mmap /dev/dsp.'. can anybody help me? |
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| 22:48.42 | humbolt | k-god: that part is clear. is there any gui tool capable of doing this when lvm is involved? |
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| 22:49.00 | smax | does Debian use breezy? |
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| 22:49.02 | beardy | Shibathedog: The netinstaller is smaller, it installs a base system, then it downloads the packages you need. |
| 22:49.07 | cureless | NaufraGo: use alsa, or if you want oss, you probably need to close other applications use /dev/dsp |
| 22:49.10 | bluefox83 | smax: no, that's for ubuntu |
| 22:49.13 | Ronin | smax: breezy? isnt that ubuntu |
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| 22:49.17 | cureless | smax, debian is not ubuntu |
| 22:49.17 | smax | oh my bad |
| 22:49.18 | k-god | humbolt: FIIK. |
| 22:49.23 | Shibathedog | oh okay, yeah that does sound alot better, thanks for your help, ill use that! |
| 22:49.28 | NaufraGo | how do I set alsa for quake2? |
| 22:49.34 | smax | what are the popular repositories for Debian? |
| 22:49.38 | bluefox83 | ok..the pastebot didn't paste here o.o |
| 22:49.40 | cureless | NaufraGo: don't know. |
| 22:49.45 | Ronin | smax: ones that work and are fast :) |
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| 22:49.50 | k-god | smax: http://us.debian.org/ |
| 22:49.55 | beardy | Shibathedog: Yes, the installer is the same, has the same possibilites to format your second drive, as the DVD:s. |
| 22:49.57 | Ronin | kernel.orgseems to be a consistant one |
| 22:50.18 | Shibathedog | okay, i will start downloading that now, thank you very much for the help |
| 22:50.22 | k-god | smax: You're asking (largely) nonsensical questions. Use a standard Debian mirror site for your country / region. |
| 22:50.25 | Ronin | smax: but if you run debian apt-setup will be your friend |
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| 22:50.32 | cureless | smax: most debian people use the official debian repositories, that's it. Some use marillat for (patented/etc) multimedia apps. |
| 22:50.41 | NaufraGo | does anybody know how to set alsa for quake2? |
| 22:50.48 | Ronin | patience NaufraGo |
| 22:50.54 | humbolt | k-god: what are you trying to tell me? Does IIRC stand for anything else but the IRC client software with that name? what about FIIK? |
| 22:50.58 | k-god | !tell NaufraGo about repeat |
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| 22:51.04 | k-god | !tell humbolt about fiik |
| 22:51.05 | cureless | NaufraGo: you can try closing applications that use the oss /dev/dsp and try to run quake2 again |
| 22:51.16 | p40l0 | http://www.petitiononline.com/costidir/petition.html |
| 22:51.18 | k-god | humbolt: /msg dpkg <acronym> in general. |
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| 22:51.21 | bluefox83 | whats a transition package? |
| 22:51.25 | Ronin | p40l0: what about it? |
| 22:51.35 | k-god | bluefox83: One that manages a state change between an earlier and later one. |
| 22:51.56 | k-god | bluefox83: Usually little more than dependencies, conflicts, and possibly config scripts. Generally safe to delete after install/config. |
| 22:52.13 | p40l0 | petition cons the cost to put money in the cell phones |
| 22:52.22 | smax | thanx fellaz apt-set up and the web page you guys gave should be enuff |
| 22:52.24 | Ronin | p40l0: and that has what to do with debian? |
| 22:52.25 | smax | you guys are great |
| 22:52.52 | k-god | smax: We know ;-) |
| 22:53.00 | NaufraGo | k-god, if nobody answer me, I guess it's better to repeat the question :) |
| 22:53.02 | bluefox83 | k-god: so..instead of trying to install say..kernel-image-2.6.13-1-k7 or whatever, i install kernel-image-2.6-k7 ? |
| 22:53.10 | cureless | some are greater than others. |
| 22:53.15 | Ronin | NaufraGo: in less then one minute? give us a break :) |
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| 22:53.17 | k-god | NaufraGo: Not so much that everyone ignores you. |
| 22:53.39 | beardy | NaufraGo: Only after a longer period of time than it takes to irritate people. |
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| 22:53.57 | NaufraGo | ok, it's clear |
| 22:54.01 | k-god | bluefox83: Um. Not sure w/o checking that that's a transition package. It likely depends on the latest 2.6 k7 arch kernel, so your kernel will automatically be upgraded. |
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| 22:54.56 | NaufraGo | 'aoss quake2' is to run quake2 with oss, wich is the alsa command? |
| 22:55.09 | bluefox83 | my kernel is currently 2.6.12-1-k7 but kernel-image-2.6-k7 says it's a transition package |
| 22:55.30 | beardy | bluefox83: What k-god said is correct. If a new kernel for k7 becomes available, it will be installed when you upgrade that package. |
| 22:56.02 | beardy | bluefox83: Just leave it alone, it can't take more than a few kb on disk. |
| 22:56.04 | bluefox83 | beardy: and to use it i have to boot into whatever new kernel it gets? |
| 22:56.22 | k-god | bluefox83: Right. Kernels don't update on the fly, reboot required. |
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| 22:56.27 | beardy | bluefox83: You have to reboot after installing a new kernel yes. |
| 22:56.27 | jelly-ho | bluetooth doesn't work here, as if pins do not match. hilfe! Using testing/unstable and something called "wammu" |
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| 22:56.43 | bluefox83 | beardy: actually..i'm having nvidia kernel module issues, and i can't seem to get everything sorted..i think it traces back to kernel versions |
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| 22:58.19 | siimo | there is no alsa-oss package in debian sid? |
| 22:58.57 | stew | !info alsa-oss sid |
| 22:58.59 | dpkg | alsa-oss: (ALSA wrapper for OSS applications), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.0.11-1 (sid), Packaged size: 50 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
| 22:58.59 | Eulex | siimo, yes there is |
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| 22:59.22 | Ralith | I've got a machine that can connect to the WAN fine, but it and the LAN are apparently isolated, except for the gateway |
| 22:59.45 | k-god | Ralith: Bad netmask? Bad route? |
| 22:59.51 | siimo | o_O my sources.list is empty no wonder |
| 22:59.55 | siimo | thanks |
| 23:00.17 | snickel1650 | can someone tell me how to install xorg? |
| 23:00.28 | k-god | !tell snickel1650 about setup x |
| 23:00.32 | Ralith | k-god, checked routes already |
| 23:00.40 | beardy | snickel1650: Which version of Debian are you running? |
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| 23:01.03 | snickel1650 | the newest one.. I'm doing an internet installation |
| 23:01.24 | beardy | snickel1650: You mean the latest stable release, sarge, 3.1? |
| 23:01.25 | Ralith | k-god, nevermind, got it working |
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| 23:01.28 | k-god | Ralith: link, route, netmask, IP assignment (DHCP if appropriate), NAT / IP forwarding if bridged, DNS resolution. Those are the usual suspects. |
| 23:01.33 | snickel1650 | sorry I'm new at this.. I've been banging my head all day. beardy: yes |
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| 23:01.44 | k-god | snickel1650: Can we bang it for you? |
| 23:02.22 | beardy | snickel1650: Xorg is not available for sarge. You have to use a backport if you really want xorg. /msg dpkg backports |
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| 23:02.54 | beardy | snickel1650: If your question was more how to install X, /msg dpkg install x |
| 23:03.18 | thingfish | and, at least on my system (which is as generic as you can get) backports' xorg wants to remove gnome. |
| 23:03.34 | beardy | snickel1650: Do you have a reason to want xorg? |
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| 23:04.27 | snickel1650 | yeah, I've been having problems with my video driver.. it's an ATI Radeon 7500 on my laptop, but the only thing that will work is i860? and it will only give me a 800x600 max screen resolution |
| 23:04.48 | beardy | snickel1650: Are you going to install gnome? |
| 23:05.05 | snickel1650 | I was thinking about installing KDE, but I don't really care that much |
| 23:05.06 | beardy | snickel1650: what thingfish said above ^^^ |
| 23:05.31 | abrotman | snickel1650: which driver are you using ? |
| 23:05.59 | snickel1650 | I found this http://www.dw-itsecurity.de/content/view/40/95/ and thought I could just paste it into my own XFconfig file since this guy is also running an IBM r51, but it gave me a bunch of errors |
| 23:06.19 | abrotman | lalala .. which driver .. using .. nice to know .. lalalala |
| 23:06.27 | snickel1650 | for now I think it was the i860? |
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| 23:06.35 | NaufraGo | 'aoss quake2' is to run quake2 with oss, wich is the alsa command? |
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| 23:06.40 | napoleao | anyone know how to solve this error dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `amavis' in statoverride file |
| 23:06.41 | napoleao | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.42 | abrotman | your ATI card is not using the i810 driver |
| 23:06.43 | snickel1650 | sorry I'm reinstalling debian right now |
| 23:06.54 | abrotman | or rather ... shouldn't be |
| 23:06.56 | beardy | NaufraGo: apropos quake2 |
| 23:06.56 | napoleao | cant install anything because of that |
| 23:07.06 | snickel1650 | right.. I tried to use the ATI, but it gave me errors |
| 23:07.08 | abrotman | napoleao: make an amavis user? |
| 23:07.17 | snickel1650 | saying something like "no devices" |
| 23:07.28 | snickel1650 | it wouldn't work until I switched it back to i810 |
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| 23:08.00 | napoleao | I think the user already exists |
| 23:08.01 | beardy | NaufraGo: And if it doesn't give you anything, 'mandb' as root |
| 23:08.11 | abrotman | snickel1650: your ATI card does NOT use i810 |
| 23:08.28 | snickel1650 | what do you suggest I choose then? |
| 23:08.41 | abrotman | do you have debian installed on the laptop ? |
| 23:08.52 | snickel1650 | I'm in the middle of reinstalling it again right now |
| 23:08.58 | abrotman | ok .. when you're done .. ask us again |
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| 23:09.03 | abrotman | don't get ahead of yourself |
| 23:09.11 | NaufraGo | 'apropos quake2' gives me: 'quake2 (6) - popular 3D action game' |
| 23:09.41 | beardy | NaufraGo: Read the manual? |
| 23:09.43 | abrotman | snickel1650: are you sure it's an ATI card? |
| 23:10.02 | beardy | NaufraGo: /msg dpkg docs |
| 23:10.04 | snickel1650 | I think that's what all IBM r51's come with |
| 23:10.51 | snickel1650 | ither the 7500 or the 9000 |
| 23:10.52 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: pick 'ati' driver... or perhaps 'radeon' |
| 23:10.52 | abrotman | snickel1650: well .. when you're done installing .. we'll find out |
| 23:10.52 | abrotman | onetinsoldier: hold up .. it might not be an ati card |
| 23:10.52 | onetinsoldier | oh.. k |
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| 23:12.59 | abrotman | !moo |
| 23:12.59 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 23:13.18 | DrBanzai | According to a google search, the R51 could have an Intel Exterme Graphics 2 video system |
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| 23:13.50 | snickel1650 | abrotman: should I ask the installation to try and autodetect the video hardware? |
| 23:14.14 | onetinsoldier | after installation is finished you think maybe he could do an lspci to find out? |
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| 23:15.04 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: nothing wrong with having it try to autodetect |
| 23:15.16 | abrotman | snickel1650: sure |
| 23:15.25 | zinosat | how do I configure jta ? |
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| 23:17.00 | abrotman | zinosat: what is jta? |
| 23:17.34 | chealer | !abrotmoo |
| 23:17.34 | dpkg | maaaan! I am abrotmoo, hear me man, I weigh twice as much as moon, I'm a man, eating grass, factoid gas comes out my ass. I'm a man, you are too; join us all! type !moo. |
| 23:17.54 | thingfish | hilarious |
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| 23:18.01 | meriad | is there any easy way to upgrade php in debian using apt? |
| 23:18.07 | abrotman | meriad: from what .. to what ? |
| 23:18.11 | meriad | php 4.3.11 |
| 23:18.13 | meriad | to 4.4.12 or something |
| 23:18.19 | meriad | 4.4.2 |
| 23:18.20 | meriad | or greater |
| 23:18.21 | abrotman | meriad: officially no ... |
| 23:18.24 | meriad | oh ok |
| 23:18.27 | abrotman | meriad: /msg dpkg backports |
| 23:18.35 | zinosat | abrotman, jta - Java telnet/ssh apple |
| 23:18.50 | zinosat | appet :) |
| 23:18.54 | zinosat | applet |
| 23:18.59 | abrotman | zinosat: what do you mean how do you configure it .. i would assume you run it |
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| 23:19.02 | meriad | abrotman- whats the default build version of php on debian? |
| 23:19.08 | meriad | is there a way to find out |
| 23:19.20 | abrotman | meriad: you're on sarge .. the PHP4 you have is the one you have officially |
| 23:19.29 | zinosat | abrotman, I get null pointer exception |
| 23:19.34 | abrotman | meriad: why do you want to upgrade? |
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| 23:19.44 | abrotman | zinosat: java sucks? .. what jre/jdk are you using? |
| 23:19.49 | meriad | abrotman- one of the deveoeprs is complaining about incompatbilities with the older version |
| 23:20.02 | Ronin | tell them to learn to code better :) |
| 23:20.07 | meriad | ya no kidding |
| 23:20.11 | meriad | not really my place |
| 23:20.12 | abrotman | meriad: incompatibilities? |
| 23:20.12 | onetinsoldier | meriad: one way to find out is to go to the debian packages page |
| 23:20.23 | cureless | developers, who needs them with their pesky upgrade requirements |
| 23:20.27 | onetinsoldier | *web page |
| 23:20.40 | zinosat | abrotman, sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386 |
| 23:20.54 | abrotman | zinosat: sounds pretty new .. maybe a jta problem ? |
| 23:20.56 | meriad | ya yer telling me ;) |
| 23:21.26 | abrotman | meriad: how is it incompatible ? |
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| 23:21.38 | zinosat | abrotman, maybe. tomorrow I'll try it from my windoze machine @work |
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| 23:21.56 | meriad | abrotman- they get compiler errors |
| 23:21.57 | abrotman | zinosat: ok ... |
| 23:22.04 | abrotman | meriad: what kind of errors? |
| 23:22.06 | meriad | Fatal error: Cannot redeclare asc_call_back() in /var/www/mailer/tools/software/original/include/mailFunctions.inc.php on line 6" |
| 23:22.08 | zinosat | abrotman, it might be a client side pb right? |
| 23:22.21 | abrotman | zinosat: yes |
| 23:22.23 | meriad | that kinda error |
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| 23:22.56 | abrotman | meriad: eh .. i'm pretty sure that's a programmer problem .. not a PHP4 issue .. i mean .. if you want to share the code .. i can try to see .. but i think it's a PEBKAC |
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| 23:22.59 | zinosat | abrotman, thanx. I've tried to ssh into my home machine for almost a year now without success. bloody ntml proxy |
| 23:23.07 | abrotman | zinosat: KILL! |
| 23:23.12 | abrotman | !alicekill the proxy |
| 23:23.13 | Gnea | meriad: is your php mail application properly supported by the version of php you're using? or is it something you're developing? |
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| 23:23.28 | kriel | i just did a network install of sarge, and i couldn't find the nvidia-kernel-common (i think because it's a non-free package) ... but what would i add to my apt-sources to make it search those packages off the ftp, too? |
| 23:23.29 | meriad | im not developing anything, im just the sys admin and the dba passed this on to me.. |
| 23:23.38 | abrotman | meriad: can you share the code or not ? |
| 23:23.54 | abrotman | meriad: obviously sanitized to remove passwords etc |
| 23:24.12 | napoleao | abrotmn, you were right, thanks |
| 23:24.12 | chealer | !tell kriel about non-free |
| 23:24.13 | thingfish | kriel: you need to add contrib and non-free |
| 23:24.33 | abrotman | napoleao: eh? |
| 23:24.37 | Gnea | meriad: ok, you should check out the docs regarding the requirements of that mail application and then match up with what's installed on the system - it's possible the dba just thought "well php is php, who cares?" |
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| 23:24.55 | kriel | thingfish: so, like, 'deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free' |
| 23:25.04 | thingfish | kriel: you got it. |
| 23:25.05 | meriad | pretty much |
| 23:25.08 | meriad | i dont really care what we do |
| 23:25.16 | meriad | it would be easier fi i didnt have to touch anything |
| 23:25.30 | kriel | thingfish: woo. -dances- thanks. ^^ |
| 23:25.30 | meriad | and let the programmer fix it |
| 23:25.30 | abrotman | meriad: can you show us that page? |
| 23:25.31 | meriad | unfortunately no |
| 23:25.32 | meriad | its closed source |
| 23:25.37 | Gnea | meriad: you wouldn't be a sysadmin then ;) |
| 23:25.37 | meriad | and its against my NDA |
| 23:25.44 | meriad | Gnea- true enuf |
| 23:25.49 | abrotman | meriad: i suspect he's redeclaring some function .. |
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| 23:26.03 | kriel | since when is exit not a vi command? Oo; |
| 23:26.07 | meriad | abrotman- heh, :) |
| 23:26.20 | abrotman | meriad: does it work on some other distro with a newer PHP ? |
| 23:26.22 | meriad | abrotman- oh well im gonna worry about it tommorow i told him i'd upgrade it then maybe :) |
| 23:26.31 | abrotman | meriad: you could always setup a chroot env .. and test his "fix" |
| 23:26.35 | meriad | abrotman- i dont believe that have tested it on other sysems |
| 23:26.38 | meriad | thats true |
| 23:26.45 | meriad | or i could remvoe the php package and recompile it from source |
| 23:26.48 | abrotman | meriad: i suspect you need better programmers :) |
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| 23:26.59 | meriad | i think you're right |
| 23:27.05 | _Tharok_ | hi all |
| 23:27.10 | meriad | infact i have a strong suspicion you're VERY right :) |
| 23:27.14 | abrotman | i think Gnea is bored .. he just drives around backwards all day :) |
| 23:27.25 | Gnea | dba's are almost always college degree idiots who think that their piece of paper carries more weight than their actual knowledge :P |
| 23:27.26 | snickel1650 | I think whoever said that I have an intel extreme graphics card on my laptop is probably right. I found this on the IBM website: I installed the X Server but I only get a few low resolution modes. What is wrong? |
| 23:27.26 | snickel1650 | The Intel chipset families with integrated graphics do not have RAM of its own. Since the graphics chip is integrated into the chipset it can use system RAM for graphics memory. An 'agpgart' kernel module needs to be installed so that the kernel can allocate this RAM for the graphics chip. |
| 23:27.50 | abrotman | snickel1650: installed yet? |
| 23:28.08 | Gnea | abrotman: oh please, who's been spending more time on irc today? ;) |
| 23:28.10 | snickel1650 | and it's the same problem I've been having.. only getting 800x600 resolution.. can anyone explain to me what I need to do? abrotman: yes |
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| 23:28.29 | abrotman | Gnea: you |
| 23:28.41 | Gnea | abrotman: no, you! heh, i just woke up |
| 23:28.41 | abrotman | snickel1650: lspci | grep VGA .. what does it say ? |
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| 23:28.54 | abrotman | Gnea: i was busy at work today .. NORTON SUCKS |
| 23:29.07 | Gnea | i get to be busy at work tonight |
| 23:29.13 | abrotman | hooker? |
| 23:29.20 | Gnea | abrotman: what did norton do this time? |
| 23:29.23 | Gnea | i sell to hookers sometimes |
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| 23:29.43 | abrotman | Gnea: we have a application that runs over the network .. it won't let it run .. basically kills the machine .. which .. since it's the main app we write code for .. that's bad :) |
| 23:29.44 | Gnea | this one came in and adjusted her bra last week, it was funny |
| 23:30.04 | snickel1650 | it's intel 82852/855GM |
| 23:30.07 | Gnea | abrotman: resource loss issue? |
| 23:30.27 | abrotman | and i actally disabled ALL of the norton "magic" virus checks .. and it still didn't work .. only uninstalling did it |
| 23:30.33 | Gnea | snickel1650: what X driver are you using? |
| 23:30.42 | abrotman | snickel1650: and you're using i810? .. what bit depth did you pick? |
| 23:30.51 | snickel1650 | 24 bit |
| 23:30.53 | Gnea | snickel1650: try thte vesa driver |
| 23:31.00 | abrotman | eww .. no |
| 23:31.01 | thingfish | I think I have hated symantec since the first time I used one of their products. |
| 23:31.01 | Gnea | that's such a hokey chipset |
| 23:31.08 | abrotman | it should work in i810 |
| 23:31.27 | Gnea | abrotman: no way man, i've seen the i810 make it look like crap while vesa was able to do 1280x1024@24bit no problem |
| 23:31.41 | abrotman | Gnea: that's impossible .. vesa doesn't do 1024 |
| 23:31.48 | abrotman | at all |
| 23:31.49 | Gnea | abrotman: wanna bet? :) |
| 23:31.58 | abrotman | Gnea: can we get bratwurst?!!? |
| 23:31.59 | Gnea | dude, it's an IBM chipset |
| 23:32.00 | abrotman | err bet |
| 23:32.05 | Gnea | lol |
| 23:32.19 | snickel1650 | ok do I do dpkg-reconfigure _______<-- forgot this last part |
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| 23:32.24 | abrotman | !drxx snickel1650 |
| 23:32.25 | dpkg | snickel1650: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:32.41 | Eulex | abrotman, umh... vesa can do any mode |
| 23:32.49 | abrotman | bah .. you're all crazy! |
| 23:32.52 | Gnea | snickel1650: just edit the xorg.conf and change the i810 driver line to vesa |
| 23:32.59 | abrotman | Gnea: xfree86 |
| 23:33.06 | Gnea | egads |
| 23:33.06 | abrotman | which was why i said to not use vesa |
| 23:33.09 | Gnea | that piece of crap |
| 23:33.09 | napoleao | /usr/bin/ld: errno: TLS definition in /lib/libc.so.6 section .tbss mismatches non-TLS reference in tcpserver.o |
| 23:33.10 | napoleao | /lib/libc.so.6: could not read symbols: Bad value |
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| 23:33.20 | Eulex | abrotman, the vesa vbe interface in the vga bios just has to provide them |
| 23:33.23 | napoleao | anyone know how to solve this? |
| 23:33.29 | abrotman | Eulex: cheddar! |
| 23:33.38 | abrotman | Gnea: wait .. you're not a developer anymore? |
| 23:33.38 | Gnea | ok, time to get ready for work |
| 23:33.48 | Gnea | abrotman: give me another week |
| 23:33.49 | abrotman | ACK! |
| 23:33.55 | abrotman | ESPN .> COME BACK |
| 23:34.00 | abrotman | Gnea: until what? |
| 23:34.19 | snickel1650 | no luck |
| 23:34.25 | snickel1650 | still max resolution is 860 |
| 23:34.27 | abrotman | snickel1650: look in your X log |
| 23:34.37 | abrotman | or try 16 bit depth |
| 23:34.54 | snickel1650 | but the vesa driver still worked.. sorry how do I do that? look in my x log? I'm completely new to linux.. started today |
| 23:34.56 | abrotman | 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) |
| 23:35.01 | abrotman | hehe .. that's mine |
| 23:35.50 | onetinsoldier | less /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:36.05 | abrotman | onetinsoldier: STOP |
| 23:36.09 | bluefox83 | ok, how do i run lsmod and have it spit out the name of a spacific driver name (nvidia) ? |
| 23:36.10 | abrotman | onetinsoldier: he's NOT using xorg |
| 23:36.30 | litage | hey guys, i've done something within firefox that has changed the way part of google's pages are displayed. the section that contains "Web, Images, Groups, News, ...." is no longer in its normal position. any idea how i can restore this?: altcall.com/tmp/weird_google.jpg |
| 23:36.34 | onetinsoldier | i was about to type.... or it might be something like XFree86.log... my we are touchy |
| 23:36.41 | onetinsoldier | perhaps i should leave? |
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| 23:36.57 | abrotman | onetinsoldier: just give better advice :) |
| 23:36.57 | onetinsoldier | i was only trying to help :-/ |
| 23:37.10 | abrotman | onetinsoldier: i just told Gnea 20 lines up that he wasn't using xorg |
| 23:37.12 | snickel1650 | I switched to 16-bit and still have the same problem |
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| 23:37.45 | Eulex | snickel1650, did you ever read your X log? it's in /var/log/, not sure of the exact filename |
| 23:37.45 | snickel1650 | abrotman: do you understand what the IBM website was talking about? I installed the X Server but I only get a few low resolution modes. What is wrong? |
| 23:37.45 | snickel1650 | The Intel chipset families with integrated graphics do not have RAM of its own. Since the graphics chip is integrated into the chipset it can use system RAM for graphics memory. An 'agpgart' kernel module needs to be installed so that the kernel can allocate this RAM for the graphics chip. |
| 23:37.57 | abrotman | that isn't related |
| 23:37.59 | snickel1650 | ok |
| 23:38.01 | abrotman | snickel1650: paste your X log somewhere |
| 23:38.06 | abrotman | snickel1650: oh wait .. it might be |
| 23:38.06 | snickel1650 | how do I access that? |
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| 23:38.22 | abrotman | snickel1650: paste your X log somewhere .. you might only be giving like 4MB to the video |
| 23:38.23 | Eulex | snickel1650, and if it wasn't able to do that it wouldn't be able to set any mode at all, right? |
| 23:38.51 | snickel1650 | the vesa driver worked, but only did the same thing |
| 23:39.05 | snickel1650 | I can't get it past a 860X600 resolution |
| 23:39.17 | snickel1650 | abrotman: how do I find my xlog? |
| 23:39.36 | abrotman | snickel1650: /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 23:40.28 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: use the less command.. i figure since you are a total newbie you might not know that... |
| 23:40.39 | onetinsoldier | less /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 23:40.45 | _Atomo64_ | Hi, I'm using etch and I compiled bootsplash from bootsplash.de but since the moment I installed it I started getting tons of problems, my kernel was patched for bootsplash support; and now when I try to remove bootsplash everything is ok, but I don't get to remove the bootsplash-theme-name packages... I don't know what to do, I'm getting a "subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10" and when I try again I can't because bootsplash was alrea |
| 23:40.58 | snickel1650 | hmm my problem is that I'm talking on IRC with one computer |
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| 23:41.05 | snickel1650 | and on linux with a different one |
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| 23:41.35 | snickel1650 | maybe I'll upload it somewhere on the web h/o |
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| 23:42.15 | snickel1650 | does kde have an FTP app? |
| 23:42.37 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: yeah, definitely a little easier if you could be on irc on the computer you just install linux on... is that not possible? does it not have a connection to the 'net? |
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| 23:42.51 | snickel1650 | it does, what's the IRC client in KDE? |
| 23:43.14 | onetinsoldier | i think it's KSirc |
| 23:43.24 | abrotman | he might not have less installed yet |
| 23:43.32 | Blissex | snickel1650: there are several, like Konversation, KSIRC, KVIRC and Kopete |
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| 23:43.54 | snickel1650 | do I need to download them? |
| 23:43.56 | onetinsoldier | abrotman: very true.. if he reported an error trying to use i would tell him to install it |
| 23:44.36 | abrotman | he doesn't even have X yet |
| 23:44.46 | abrotman | how about .. /join #flood |
| 23:44.47 | snickel1650 | ok I'll email it to myself really quick and paste it |
| 23:45.01 | Blissex | snickel1650: 'apt-get' will get you any of them. |
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| 23:45.19 | onetinsoldier | if you don't have X yet then i recommend BitchX in the console to irc... there are also other console irc clients |
| 23:45.43 | snickel1650 | BitchX? that's a client? |
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| 23:45.48 | onetinsoldier | yes |
| 23:45.54 | Blissex | snickel1650: they will be on the CD/DVD and of course you should have an APT config entry pointing to the CD/DVD set... |
| 23:45.56 | onetinsoldier | apt-get install bitchx |
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| 23:46.13 | Seewai | what's the name for email addresses like user+topic@domain.com? i.e. what can I google to find out more about them? |
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| 23:46.42 | ras | i want to see what my CC environment variable is, how do i check it? |
| 23:47.00 | Blissex | Seewai: thats called a local part suffix.... |
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| 23:47.17 | bluefox83 | what drivers do i need to install for my soundblaster live card? |
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| 23:47.19 | onetinsoldier | ras: if one is set then... env : grep CC |
| 23:47.22 | Seewai | cheers Blissex |
| 23:47.26 | dondelelcaro | ras: echo $CC |
| 23:47.27 | _Tharok_ | hi |
| 23:47.31 | Blissex | bluefox83: 'snd-emu10k1' |
| 23:47.39 | ras | tanx |
| 23:47.56 | _Tharok_ | what is the URL that I have to add to sources.list for the testing/non-US repository?? |
| 23:48.02 | snickel1650 | how do I access bitchX now |
| 23:48.11 | dondelelcaro | _Tharok_: non-US no longer exists. |
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| 23:48.20 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: just type bitchx and press enter |
| 23:48.28 | _Tharok_ | ok |
| 23:48.31 | onetinsoldier | not as root user! |
| 23:48.37 | _Tharok_ | then just for testing :P |
| 23:48.57 | bluefox83 | ok...i have the drivers for my soundcard loaded...and nothing seems capable of finding my soundcard except lspci |
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| 23:49.13 | dondelelcaro | _Tharok_: it's the same as your usual mirror with testing instead of sarge or stable. |
| 23:49.24 | _Tharok_ | ok thanks :) |
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| 23:50.19 | abrotman | someone recommended bitchx? :) |
| 23:50.26 | onetinsoldier | yep.. i did |
| 23:50.31 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 23:50.32 | abrotman | keosk10: stop doing that |
| 23:50.36 | abrotman | onetinsoldier: you forgot to tell him how to use it |
| 23:50.37 | rockstar_ | I use btichx |
| 23:50.42 | dondelelcaro | yuck |
| 23:51.01 | snickel1650 | can you read anything keosk10 is writing? |
| 23:51.06 | abrotman | of course not |
| 23:51.08 | snickel1650 | I'm having problems on the other comp |
| 23:51.09 | abrotman | you can't irc as root |
| 23:51.16 | abrotman | well .. you can .. but it's stupid |
| 23:52.37 | abrotman | actually .. IIRC .. he won't be able to paste with bitchx |
| 23:52.42 | abrotman | snickel1650: you still there? |
| 23:52.44 | snickel1650 | yeah |
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| 23:52.48 | snickel1650 | where do I paste it to |
| 23:52.51 | abrotman | snickel1650: apt-get install irssi-text |
| 23:52.52 | snickel1650 | I emailed the log to myself |
| 23:53.10 | abrotman | snickel1650: then .. irssi-text -c irc.debian.org .. then /j #flood |
| 23:53.19 | abrotman | erm .. sorry |
| 23:53.23 | abrotman | snickel1650: then .. irssi -c irc.debian.org .. then /j #flood |
| 23:53.34 | onetinsoldier | you can cpoy and paste with bitchx or whatever else in the console as long as you installed and properly set up gpm |
| 23:53.39 | abrotman | ok .. fine |
| 23:53.39 | onetinsoldier | *copy |
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| 23:53.59 | onetinsoldier | lol.. no need to do that |
| 23:54.07 | chump | whats a good program for ripping a cd? |
| 23:54.08 | abrotman | you want to interject .. you do it |
| 23:54.13 | chump | an audio cd* |
| 23:54.15 | dondelelcaro | chump: jack, cdparanoia, etc. |
| 23:54.18 | abrotman | chump: X or cli ? |
| 23:54.23 | onetinsoldier | i wasn't even talking to him when i said that |
| 23:54.28 | chump | umm i'm going to go for CLI |
| 23:54.33 | abrotman | jack is pretty darn nice |
| 23:54.34 | chump | just because i want to get really used to it |
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| 23:55.58 | snickel1650 | I tried pasting into the flood channel but the log was huge |
| 23:56.05 | abrotman | and your client sucks |
| 23:56.13 | Brox | i'm trying to install oracle-xe but have had no luck so far. The only two errors i get (and which i don't understand nore can Dr. google explain them to me) are: error: unknown error 1 setting key 'kernel.sem' & error: unknown error 1 setting key 'kernel.shmmax' |
| 23:56.17 | snickel1650 | that too |
| 23:56.20 | Brox | i think they sound sinister |
| 23:56.23 | abrotman | !tell Brox about oracle |
| 23:56.27 | dondelelcaro | !tell snickel1650 -about paste |
| 23:56.35 | abrotman | he was in #flood |
| 23:56.54 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yes... but using the paster bot is much nicer... |
| 23:57.11 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: then he'll have to figure out w3m |
| 23:57.19 | abrotman | or links |
| 23:57.20 | amahbod | hello. i am having trouble with eterm... whenever i open eterm/wterm/xterm, it prompts me to "Hit a key to exit..." |
| 23:57.34 | dondelelcaro | -!- Irssi: Stopped moron BitchX message from Perl_help_please [1906] ... YA reason why bitchx should never be recommended |
| 23:57.50 | abrotman | i didn't recommend it .. i don't know why anyone uses it |
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| 23:57.53 | bluefox83 | can anyone help me to setup my soundcard? |
| 23:58.04 | bluefox83 | for some reason alsa can't see my soundcard :( |
| 23:58.19 | chump | what would a typical line look like for jack? |
| 23:58.33 | dondelelcaro | chump: jack; or jack -Q; |
| 23:58.36 | Brox | abrotman, that didn't help me much - i'm _using_ the apt-repository at http://oss.oracle.com/debian/... when i do apt-get install oracle-xe-universal i get those two errors |
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| 23:59.02 | Brox | apart from that it just doesn't work |
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| 23:59.07 | abrotman | Brox: it has an unknown error ? |
| 23:59.10 | onetinsoldier | amahbod: how are trying to start up your xterm's? and what window manager are you using? |
| 23:59.21 | rockstar_ | Would I go about compiling mplayer for amd64 the same as ia32? |
| 23:59.30 | abrotman | rockstar_: ask #mplayer |
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| 23:59.43 | Brox | it just tells me |
| 23:59.43 | Brox | error: unknown error 1 setting key 'kernel.sem' |
| 23:59.49 | chump | sweet jack is easy |
