| 00:00.09 | abrotman | chump: if you want to rip to mp3 .. you'll have to get LAME also |
| 00:00.26 | chump | crap what format does jack put it in? |
| 00:00.36 | abrotman | i forget the default |
| 00:00.42 | abrotman | but it will do ogg if you ask it to |
| 00:00.45 | abrotman | and mp3 |
| 00:00.53 | seb- | anyone brave nuff to use pam_tally in PAM? |
| 00:00.53 | abrotman | but mp3 requires lame from marillat |
| 00:00.58 | chump | yeah |
| 00:01.12 | chump | i'm pondering what my Gigabeat requires |
| 00:01.16 | dondelelcaro | and flac too |
| 00:01.18 | abrotman | your what? |
| 00:01.19 | chump | anyone have a gigabeat? |
| 00:01.26 | chump | Toshiba Gigabeat |
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| 00:01.35 | chump | its an MP3 Player |
| 00:01.47 | abrotman | well .. surely does mp3 :) |
| 00:01.48 | chump | haha |
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| 00:01.58 | Brox | abrotman: do you have any suggestions for my next steps? |
| 00:02.09 | snickel1650 | ok the log is at www.unc.edu/~achan9/linux |
| 00:02.10 | abrotman | Brox: find the line that is diong it .. and see if it's obviously wrong |
| 00:02.22 | Brox | its only numbers |
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| 00:02.53 | Brox | i just think the error is really weird because thats kernel stuff |
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| 00:03.10 | abrotman | snickel1650: you're giving X 12MB of video RAM |
| 00:03.25 | bluefox83 | how do i tell alsa where to look for my soundcard? |
| 00:03.25 | Brox | i installed libaio because oracle needs some close kernel functions... |
| 00:03.26 | chump | hey abrotman how can make an ISO from a Video-ts |
| 00:03.36 | abrotman | Brox: i would guess it's trying to put them in /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 00:03.48 | abrotman | chump: no idea |
| 00:04.06 | chump | dang it |
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| 00:04.22 | Brox | theres nothing in there |
| 00:04.28 | snickel1650 | is there anything I can do about it? |
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| 00:04.43 | Brox | just # Oracle XE Recommended Values and then nothing |
| 00:04.50 | MMajex | I am new in debian and I want to know how to change the theme ? |
| 00:04.56 | MMajex | any body can help me ? |
| 00:05.07 | onetinsoldier | what theme? |
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| 00:05.39 | MMajex | theme = look |
| 00:05.42 | NaufraGo | uhm, I can't open a pendrive, I guess my system doesn't detect it. any help? |
| 00:05.48 | abrotman | snickel1650: that's how much i use .. i have 1024 |
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| 00:06.16 | lizardX | hello everybody |
| 00:06.16 | abrotman | (II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (width too large for virtual size) |
| 00:06.49 | lizardX | i would like to configure the dhcp client so it doesn't add the supplied nameservers |
| 00:06.55 | MMajex | any body can help me ? |
| 00:06.58 | lizardX | can you give me a hint on this |
| 00:07.00 | snickel1650 | what does that mean? |
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| 00:07.24 | dondelelcaro | lizardX: just use resolveconf and add your nameservers first |
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| 00:07.26 | freelancer | morning |
| 00:07.29 | Like | hey nigger |
| 00:07.32 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: sorry. you got me. i still don't know what theme you mean. bash command prompt theme? kde theme? windowmaker? enlightenement? xfce? is look a window manager? |
| 00:07.33 | herman | hahaha |
| 00:07.40 | MMajex | hahahaha |
| 00:07.41 | lizardX | dondelelcaro: thanks |
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| 00:07.45 | herman | i love little boys |
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| 00:08.08 | grendal_prime | this is the most frustrating thing i have ever seen |
| 00:08.17 | MMajex | thank you onetinsoldier I mean kde theme . |
| 00:08.43 | grendal_prime | i have to draw this out |
| 00:08.54 | MMajex | just route me to any site explain that in detail . |
| 00:09.03 | grendal_prime | i really need to bone up on tcp or something im losing my mind with this stupid jabber problem |
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| 00:09.30 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: oh yeah. i'm not in KDE right now... but i know it's awfully easy to change it in there. if you are trying to add a theme to the list of available ones then i don't know how to help with that |
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| 00:10.43 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: are you just wondering how to change your current KDE theme? |
| 00:11.02 | mikygee | hello i'm able to get an ip address over 100baseT but not over 802.11b |
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| 00:11.20 | MMajex | yes that what I mean . |
| 00:11.29 | onetinsoldier | if so i may need to go into kde in order to be able to tell you 'exactly' how to do it |
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| 00:11.49 | onetinsoldier | MMAjex: ok.. hang on, ok? |
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| 00:12.01 | meriad | the debian package |
| 00:12.04 | meriad | that was installed |
| 00:12.08 | meriad | for apache2, doesnt have apx2 installed |
| 00:12.10 | MMajex | thank you |
| 00:12.13 | meriad | whats the eassiest way to get apache2 with apxs2 installed? |
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| 00:12.25 | abrotman | Brox: there has to be something there .. which file are you looking in? |
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| 00:12.32 | meriad | abrotman- any suggetsions? |
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| 00:12.36 | abrotman | fer what? |
| 00:12.42 | abrotman | oh |
| 00:12.45 | meriad | hwo I can get apxs2 installed |
| 00:12.48 | meriad | i need it for php4.4.2 |
| 00:12.51 | meriad | in order for it to work :| |
| 00:12.52 | abrotman | you do? |
| 00:12.53 | abrotman | no you don't |
| 00:12.57 | meriad | i dont? |
| 00:13.00 | meriad | how do I buildi t otherwise? |
| 00:13.03 | abrotman | eh .. i'm pretty sure not |
| 00:13.06 | MMajex | join #arabian |
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| 00:13.13 | abrotman | meriad: fix the programmer! |
| 00:13.17 | snickel1650 | abrotman: is there anything I can do? |
| 00:13.17 | Unity | hello, i was wondering, what IS alsa? i know it's like a sound server but then why don't i see alsad in my "ps -A" ? and, Xserver doesn't do anything about sound, so i can listen to mp3's without X running, right? |
| 00:13.18 | meriad | abrotman- i cant |
| 00:13.18 | Ronin | close MMajex |
| 00:13.25 | meriad | abrotman- my boss has told me i have to do this |
| 00:13.27 | threat | morning |
| 00:13.32 | meriad | abrotman- so im tryign to figure out the best way to recompile php |
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| 00:13.39 | meriad | without using axps2... how do i do that? |
| 00:14.02 | chump | does anyone in here know how to backupdvd and burn them? |
| 00:14.04 | MMajex | Ronin : what you mean |
| 00:14.05 | chump | wiht CLI? |
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| 00:14.34 | abrotman | !find apxs sarge |
| 00:14.34 | Brox | i just don't know what the problem is or what to try next... (still oracle-xe) |
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| 00:14.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'apxs' (4 of 5): (/usr/bin/{apxs|apxs-perl|apxs-ssl}) in devel/apache-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/apache-doc/manual/programs/apxs.html) in doc/apache-doc ;; (/usr/bin/apxs2) in devel/apache2-prefork-dev,devel/apache2-threaded-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/libapache-request-perl/examples/c/testapreq/Makefile.apxs) in perl/libapache-request-perl. |
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| 00:15.05 | Ronin | 21:13:39] <MMajex> join #arabian |
| 00:15.15 | MMajex | onetinsoldier : welcome back |
| 00:15.22 | onetinsoldier | thanks |
| 00:15.23 | Ronin | as in close but you missed something :) |
| 00:15.45 | snickel1650 | how do I install agpgarp? |
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| 00:16.07 | snickel1650 | agpgart* |
| 00:16.08 | abrotman | meriad: see above? |
| 00:16.16 | abrotman | snickel1650: it's there .. lsmod | grep agp |
| 00:16.22 | MMajex | Ronin : yes I missed it . :) |
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| 00:16.35 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: i just found it to be in.... kde panel button --> settings --> appearance and themes --> theme manager |
| 00:16.44 | abrotman | meriad: is /usr/bin/apxs2 there ? |
| 00:16.56 | abrotman | meriad: i guess with apache1 you didn't need it .. oh well |
| 00:17.05 | snickel1650 | so there's nothing I can do about this resolution problem? |
| 00:17.15 | abrotman | snickel1650: that error .. that i pasted above .. google that |
| 00:18.39 | MMajex | onetinsoldier : I found it thank you for your help ? |
| 00:18.48 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: i don't know if your having the same problem as i had at one time... probably not. but i was stuck in 640x480 until i entered proper hsync and vsync values into the config file |
| 00:18.49 | meriad | abrotman- no it s not :| |
| 00:18.49 | Brox | is it possible that these kernel errors come up because i'm trying this on a vserver? The installation work fine on my home debian box - but perhaps these extra kernel functions oracle needs to be super fast are not even allowed by my setup |
| 00:18.57 | Brox | anyone? opinions? |
| 00:19.09 | MMajex | onetinsoldier : but I have another small problem , from where I can get a nice theme ? |
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| 00:19.16 | abrotman | Brox: find the lines that are trying to set those options |
| 00:19.25 | meriad | YAY |
| 00:19.25 | meriad | there it is |
| 00:19.26 | meriad | thanks :) |
| 00:19.27 | abrotman | meriad: don't you have an apache2 package installed ? |
| 00:19.45 | amahbod | onetinsoldier fluxbox |
| 00:19.47 | Brox | abrotman: you mean in the .deb file? |
| 00:19.49 | snickel1650 | onetinsoldier: how do you find out what the proper hsync and vsync values are? |
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| 00:20.02 | amahbod | onetinsoldier i am using eterm/xterm/wterm with fluxbox |
| 00:20.07 | abrotman | Brox: i mean the postinst in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 00:20.23 | amahbod | onetinsoldier and it just prompts me to hit any key to quit as soon as i open them. |
| 00:20.26 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: hang on a sec |
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| 00:21.40 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: you can try looking for some at... http://themes.freshmeat.net/ ...but i don't know if they have any kde ones or not |
| 00:22.06 | NaufraGo | which is the newest kernel version package for 686? |
| 00:22.36 | chealer | NaufraGo: in which release? |
| 00:22.43 | onetinsoldier | amahbod: i'm not familiar with fluxbox. are you starting up fluxbox with a 'startx' command? |
| 00:22.46 | NaufraGo | sarge |
| 00:22.47 | MMajex | onetinsoldier : thank you for your help , I will search in that site . |
| 00:22.54 | amahbod | onetinsoldier yes. |
| 00:22.59 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: you're welcome |
| 00:23.18 | chealer | NaufraGo: the latest Linux version in Sarge is 2.6.8.1 |
| 00:24.19 | chump | where does Jack put the files |
| 00:24.22 | Knorrie | 2.6.8-3 |
| 00:24.24 | chump | by default |
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| 00:24.41 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: i did a search on Google for my monitor... the hsync and vsync (refresh) values are for monitors and are usually specific to the model of the monitor |
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| 00:25.03 | rockstar_ | Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible, "Thou shalt not use *BSD" I could've sworn it did. |
| 00:25.09 | rockstar_ | I think my boss is going to hell |
| 00:25.11 | MMajex | How can I know the kde version ? |
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| 00:25.38 | Brox | abrotman: i can't tell - its not a direct command (the string "kernel" does not appear in /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-xe-universal.postinst) |
| 00:25.40 | onetinsoldier | MMajex: dpkg -l kde ...or dpkg -l | grep kde |
| 00:25.52 | azeem | rockstar_: please note that this is a support channel |
| 00:25.58 | NaufraGo | chealer, what about linux-image-2.6.16-1-686 package? |
| 00:26.03 | amahbod | i am also having trouble with ssh... i am trying to ssh into my computer and after i enter my password it says "Server refused to allocate pty" |
| 00:26.06 | rockstar_ | azeem, I fully understand that. |
| 00:26.14 | amahbod | anyone know why its happening / how to fix it? |
| 00:26.16 | chealer | NaufraGo: that's not in sarge |
| 00:26.24 | onetinsoldier | amahbod: so, did you make a ~/.xsession file to specify fluxbox as your wm? |
| 00:26.30 | Brox | abrotman: the rest is just shell script mush to me (should be replaced by python) |
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| 00:26.55 | NaufraGo | so, what package do I have to install exactly? |
| 00:26.58 | amahbod | onetinsoldier no i made an .xinitrc file |
| 00:26.59 | rockstar_ | Brox, I am coming to the conclusion now that everything should be replaced with python. |
| 00:27.10 | azeem | rockstar_: do you have a Debian question |
| 00:27.11 | azeem | ? |
| 00:27.12 | amahbod | onetinsoldier ineed an .xsession file? what does it need in it? |
| 00:27.14 | Brox | rockstar_: well said |
| 00:27.35 | rockstar_ | azeem, do I need to have a Debian question? |
| 00:27.40 | onetinsoldier | amahbod: i did the following to start up enlightenement... let me paste, ok? |
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| 00:27.58 | azeem | rockstar_: no, you can help us answer other people's Debian question if you want/can |
| 00:28.02 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : Which E? |
| 00:28.04 | abrotman | Brox: might be in preinst .. try oracle-xe-universal* |
| 00:28.11 | chealer | NaufraGo: kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 |
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| 00:28.29 | rockstar_ | azeem, I'm in here a lot, for both reasons. |
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| 00:28.34 | cshaman | Ahoy. |
| 00:28.41 | azeem | cool |
| 00:28.49 | cshaman | Is the "libwxgtk2.4-python" package the same as "wxPython"? |
| 00:28.50 | abrotman | but he's a bitchx user! |
| 00:28.52 | Brox | abrotman: don't you think what i said earlier (that i probably don't have the right permissions for intimate kernel funtions because i'm only a verserver) is likely? |
| 00:28.56 | onetinsoldier | amahbod: #!/bin/sh |
| 00:29.02 | rockstar_ | abrotman : What is wrong with bitchx? |
| 00:29.07 | onetinsoldier | rxvt -bg black -fg white & |
| 00:29.12 | abrotman | Brox: i'm sorry ... i missed that .. and yes .. it's entirely possible |
| 00:29.15 | onetinsoldier | aterm -tr -fg SkyBlue3 & |
| 00:29.23 | onetinsoldier | exec enlightenment |
| 00:29.39 | amahbod | onetinsoldier cool. |
| 00:29.43 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
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| 00:29.48 | Brox | abrotman: bingo its in preinstall |
| 00:29.54 | abrotman | Brox: ah .. even better :) |
| 00:30.04 | onetinsoldier | amahbod: that's my... .xsession file |
| 00:30.10 | NaufraGo | is sarge a good release? |
| 00:30.13 | abrotman | yes |
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| 00:30.15 | Carbon_Monoxide | Does Debian repository do not contaion apache2 mods? |
| 00:30.31 | NaufraGo | is it better that unstable, test? |
| 00:30.31 | rockstar_ | NaufraGo : What's your definition of good? I like sarge, but I run etch. |
| 00:30.36 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: no |
| 00:30.45 | rockstar_ | NaufraGo : What's better? It's freakin' stable as a rock. |
| 00:30.52 | abrotman | chealer: doesn't it depend on the module? |
| 00:30.52 | snickel1650 | ok, I went in and manually changed the settings in the config file and now it's working fine. Thanks walking me through everything and for all the help |
| 00:30.56 | abrotman | NaufraGo: huh ? |
| 00:31.00 | rockstar_ | NaufraGo : I run etch for things like php5, etc. |
| 00:31.00 | NaufraGo | ok |
| 00:31.03 | abrotman | snickel1650: you fixed it ? |
| 00:31.04 | Brox | appearently the command /sbin/sysctl -w kernel.sem="$semmsl $semmns $semopm $semmni" produces the culprit " |
| 00:31.04 | Brox | error: unknown error 1 setting key 'kernel.sem'" |
| 00:31.23 | snickel1650 | yep |
| 00:31.25 | abrotman | Brox: uname -a |
| 00:31.38 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: the version of enlightenment? it's the version for etch... 0.16.7. i take it that it's DR16 |
| 00:31.43 | Brox | Linux v099 2.6.12.2-vs2.0-rc6 #2 SMP Mon Jul 11 18:25:58 CEST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 00:31.45 | chealer | abrotman: I honestly think that any answer is suitable for such a question :S |
| 00:32.00 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:32.00 | snickel1650 | under the section for "screen" i noticed that they were all configured to 860x600 |
| 00:32.07 | snickel1650 | and I just went in and changed them manually |
| 00:32.08 | abrotman | that's weird |
| 00:32.12 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: please don't send private messages without asking permission first |
| 00:32.18 | snickel1650 | I also changed the hsynch, vsynch according to http://www.dw-itsecurity.de/content/view/40/95/ |
| 00:32.29 | snickel1650 | the guy also apparently had an r51? |
| 00:32.38 | snickel1650 | I'm not sure what did it but at this point, I'm just glad I fixed it |
| 00:32.44 | abrotman | yay |
| 00:32.45 | Brox | abrotman, so what do you reckon? |
| 00:33.04 | abrotman | Brox: oddly enough .. i have that option in my /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 00:33.14 | Carbon_Monoxide | sorry chealer. I don't know how to send a msg to someone directly. I'm new in IRC |
| 00:33.14 | onetinsoldier | snickel1650: cool! so what resolution do you have now? |
| 00:33.25 | snickel1650 | 1024 |
| 00:33.36 | onetinsoldier | great :-) |
| 00:33.49 | rockstar_ | Carbon_Monoxide : Welcome to the 1990's that just keep on giving: IRC! |
| 00:33.50 | snickel1650 | hehe I wonder if I can just keep changing it manually to higher and higher resolutions, but I'll leave that for later. Thanks for the help guys |
| 00:34.12 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : Did you say you were running Enlightenment? Which one? |
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| 00:34.26 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: it's the version for etch... 0.16.7. i take it that it's DR16 |
| 00:34.31 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: you just sent me a message directly. doing so without asking permission first on a support channel is against the guidelines. so just ask here, on the channel |
| 00:34.51 | rockstar_ | Yea. I don't want to do the upgrade to e17 because it blows out my existing e16 configs, etc. |
| 00:34.53 | DaBlade | What was the command to mount ISO files again? |
| 00:34.56 | azeem | chealer: that's what you get for giving misleading answers to random questions :P |
| 00:35.05 | stoned | heh |
| 00:35.08 | DaBlade | I thought it was mount -o loop isofs file.iso directory |
| 00:35.14 | DaBlade | But that doesn't seem to work |
| 00:35.21 | rockstar_ | Plus, no decent looking themes yet. That's how I make my decision on window managers: What themes are available. |
| 00:35.24 | stoned | chealer, doesn't do that, although people are prone to make mistakes |
| 00:35.39 | DaBlade | Hello? |
| 00:35.55 | azeem | DaBlade: "doesn't seem to work" is not helpful, is there an error message? |
| 00:36.03 | JeffT11 | Hello there, I wonder if someone could help a Linux Newb with a problem? I'm trying to install the paparazzi autpilot package "paparazzi-base", unfortunately there are some errors during the install that end up killing my X server. Other debian/paparazzi users aren't having this problem. I wonder if soeone could help me out based on the errors I recieve. |
| 00:36.05 | Carbon_Monoxide | chealer: Is there any official repository that I can get those apache2 mods? |
| 00:36.06 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : What error is it giving you? |
| 00:36.08 | DaBlade | azeem: It just shows the help menu |
| 00:36.14 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: i just installed it yesterday though. i haven't really got any settings made up for it yet. only put in a couple of lines into a .xsession file to use startx with |
| 00:36.41 | DaBlade | rockstar_, azeem: What's the command again? |
| 00:36.52 | stoned | DaBlade, you are doing it wrong, there is no such thing as isofs as far as I know. Try mount -o loop -t iso9660 /thing/to/mount /mount/point |
| 00:37.01 | DaBlade | Oh, right |
| 00:37.01 | DaBlade | Thanks |
| 00:37.11 | DaBlade | I didn't remember clearly |
| 00:37.16 | stoned | its ok, you're welcome |
| 00:37.37 | rockstar_ | Annh, I keep a .enlightenment folder that I move over everytime I install E on a new system. It's at least 5 years of tweaks in one folder. |
| 00:37.39 | DaBlade | Seemed to work, thanks |
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| 00:38.00 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: roger. i like to have some nice themes too :-) |
| 00:38.14 | abrotman | rockstar_: you know .. the sad part .. i don't think they've had an official release in five years |
| 00:38.30 | cinix | I'm having some problems with apt-get and aptitude. They give me errors like this when it's trying to unpack, tar: ./usr/src: Cannot change mode to rwxrwsr-x: Permission denied |
| 00:38.53 | abrotman | cinix: what package? |
| 00:38.54 | cinix | I can't figure out what it's trying to do, and where (if I need to) fix the permissions so it can do it's job. |
| 00:39.05 | Brox | also on the verserver the command /sbin/sysctl -w kernel.shmmax="536870912" produces error: unknown error 1 setting key 'kernel.shmmax' whereas i can do this on my normal box without a problem |
| 00:39.19 | cinix | abrotman, not sure. first it was lockfile-progs, then base-files, now bsdutils |
| 00:39.29 | cinix | it seems like it's any package, just whatevers next on the list |
| 00:39.30 | Brox | so this is obviously odd |
| 00:39.32 | g3brown | I'm looking for a backup script to tar files. I use plbackitup (http://freshmeat.net/projects/plbackitup/) now and it does everything I need like ftp and keeps x # of old backups. It just doesn't split the tar file. Anyone using anything similar they would care to share? |
| 00:39.34 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Yea, I think the funding is low for it. |
| 00:39.44 | abrotman | rockstar_: or the interest is low :) |
| 00:39.57 | onetinsoldier | probably since mandrake went under |
| 00:40.09 | rockstar_ | Yea, that's it, 'cause I wired raster $200 a couple months ago. |
| 00:40.09 | abrotman | eh? |
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| 00:40.24 | stoned | man if i have to actually donate money to see debian keep goin, I will |
| 00:40.25 | rockstar_ | Mandrake didn't go under, just became Mandriva. |
| 00:40.36 | onetinsoldier | oh? hmmm, didn't know that |
| 00:40.47 | abrotman | and i don't think they cared about E |
| 00:40.51 | onetinsoldier | cool. thanks for the info |
| 00:41.09 | dondelelcaro | Debian really hasn't ever asked anyone for money... in general, we don't need it. |
| 00:41.21 | rockstar_ | I think the only people that care about E are the linux elite, and the wannabe linux elite |
| 00:41.27 | dondelelcaro | (Debconf is different) |
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| 00:41.31 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 00:41.32 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: damog threatened with violence unless i paid him! |
| 00:41.34 | stoned | dondelelcaro, thats wicked, hence the conditional; 'if' |
| 00:41.35 | stoned | :) |
| 00:41.50 | rockstar_ | dondelelcaro : We were talkin' Enlightenment |
| 00:41.53 | abrotman | rockstar_: no .. i odn't think those people care about it :) |
| 00:41.57 | dondelelcaro | E is crap |
| 00:42.02 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:42.05 | Shibathedog | i need help setting up Debian, i installed it and i can get to the prompt and login, but i cant seem to get a GUI to load |
| 00:42.09 | abrotman | bloated crap ? |
| 00:42.17 | abrotman | Shibathedog: did you install X ? |
| 00:42.17 | chealer | azeem: I knew I shouldn't have :) |
| 00:42.19 | rockstar_ | dondelelcaro : Flamebait? |
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| 00:42.30 | dondelelcaro | the nice thing about it is that E caused people to write good libraries beneath it... so it's at least crap that I'm happy exists |
| 00:42.31 | abrotman | rockstar_: no .. he's serious .. and correct :) |
| 00:42.32 | funkja | I just installed bind and I can't seem to figure out how to restart it. Named does not apear in my /etc/init.d. Bind is in there, but commands like start stop restart don't actually do anything on it. Any ideas? |
| 00:42.38 | Shibathedog | Im not sure, i installed whatever was in the "Desktop" package and thats it |
| 00:42.39 | cinix | It's moved forward, now I get this: error setting permissions of `./usr/bin/wall': Operation not permitted. When aptitude unpacks the package, where does it put the files until it installs them? somewhere in /var? |
| 00:42.43 | stoned | !tell Shibathedog about install x |
| 00:42.47 | abrotman | Shibathedog: got any errors ? |
| 00:42.50 | rockstar_ | What's that command to tell dpkg to start a window manager flame war |
| 00:42.56 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: yes, you get them apache2 modules from Debian repositories |
| 00:42.56 | onetinsoldier | dondelelcaro: if you use x what's your favorite wm? mine's xfce |
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| 00:43.06 | Shibathedog | No errors |
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| 00:43.19 | abrotman | Shibathedog: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:43.34 | dondelelcaro | onetinsoldier: http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/home_modules/x_base/.xsession should give you an idea |
| 00:43.37 | DaBlade | stoned: Okay, I'm having trouble making this work for a USB drive |
| 00:43.40 | stoned | Shibathedog, look at what dpkg told you |
| 00:43.50 | onetinsoldier | dondelelcaro: ok.. i'll have a llok now. :) |
| 00:43.53 | dondelelcaro | (ion3 >> openbox >> rxvt >> xterm) |
| 00:43.53 | cinix | funkja, check your logs in /var/log/ for errors. it might be shutting down because of a misconfiguration |
| 00:43.55 | onetinsoldier | *look |
| 00:43.58 | Shibathedog | im looking at it |
| 00:43.58 | DaBlade | I'm trying to mount an ISO on /media/sda1 but it doesn't feel like working it seems |
| 00:44.04 | stoned | DaBlade, learn to never say 'don't work', 'can't work' etc. what are you trying to do |
| 00:44.10 | Shibathedog | so i should type that and somehow select KDE? because i want to install KDE as my GUI |
| 00:44.22 | DaBlade | stoned: As I said, trying to mount an ISO file on my USB stick. |
| 00:44.25 | stoned | Shibathedog, /msg dpkg install kde |
| 00:44.26 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: what .. no Eterm ? :) |
| 00:44.29 | dondelelcaro | heh |
| 00:44.41 | dondelelcaro | I don't think I've used Eterm since some time in 99 |
| 00:44.50 | stoned | rxvt |
| 00:44.52 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: admittedly .. you could check for flux/black too |
| 00:44.53 | Shibathedog | so once i login i just type dpkg install kde? |
| 00:44.59 | dvs | DaBlade: To ultimately do what? |
| 00:45.00 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: true |
| 00:45.09 | stoned | dvs, lol :) |
| 00:45.13 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: ages ago I did use them... but I haven't had them installed on my machine in quite some time |
| 00:45.16 | Carbon_Monoxide | chealer: But no package was found when I tried to apt-get install libapache2-userdir |
| 00:45.18 | DaBlade | dvs: Erm... stick the contents of the ISO file into the USB stick to be bootable |
| 00:45.20 | dvs | stoned: are you stoned now? |
| 00:45.27 | stoned | kinda |
| 00:45.29 | DaBlade | dvs: It's the GParted live disk. |
| 00:45.32 | dvs | DaBlade: so that you can install using the ISO? |
| 00:45.37 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i think i've only used blackbox of them .. i used to use it a lot when i first started with linux |
| 00:45.38 | DaBlade | Yes |
| 00:45.50 | azeem | you need a boot image for that AFAIK |
| 00:45.54 | dvs | DaBlade: Look at the installation manual for Debian |
| 00:45.58 | azeem | and then just drop the netinst .iso into it |
| 00:45.58 | Gary | you need to install xserver-xorg or xfree then install x-window-system-core then kde-core or kde |
| 00:46.20 | Shibathedog | hmm, how do i do that? |
| 00:46.21 | DaBlade | azeem: It's a bootable. And I'm not trying to install Debian on it. |
| 00:46.23 | abrotman | Shibathedog: apt-get install x-window-system kde kdm |
| 00:46.26 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: there's no such package, indeed |
| 00:46.27 | azeem | DaBlade: I see |
| 00:46.29 | onetinsoldier | dondelelcaro: i've never checked out openbox. maybe i will so i can see what it's like |
| 00:46.31 | rockstar_ | Can anyone tell me how to boot a server with DNS, Apache, PHP, SVN, CVS, Bugzilla, Wiki, video streaming, bittorrent server, and armagetron from a 32MB flash drive? |
| 00:46.33 | Shibathedog | oh okay |
| 00:46.39 | stoned | Shibathedog, are you kidding me? I just had the bot tell you how to install Xand how to install Kde |
| 00:46.43 | abrotman | rockstar_: get a bigger flash drive |
| 00:46.44 | azeem | rockstar_: are you trolling? |
| 00:46.45 | Xenguy | heh |
| 00:46.50 | stoned | Shibathedog, look at what dpkg has told you in a message window |
| 00:46.52 | stoned | for fucks sake |
| 00:46.54 | Shibathedog | yeah i wasnt reading it yet, i got it now |
| 00:47.03 | Carbon_Monoxide | chealer: but there is an apache2 module for userdir |
| 00:47.05 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Yea, I just was wondering what people would say if someone asked that. |
| 00:47.08 | DaBlade | Shibathedog: apt-get install xserver-xorg kdelibs kdebase kdegames kdemultimedia kdenetwork arts |
| 00:47.13 | abrotman | rockstar_: so you were trolling .. nice |
| 00:47.20 | dondelelcaro | onetinsoldier: it's basically a really lean WM; ion3 is better, since it can be used without the mouse IMO, but YMMV. |
| 00:47.35 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: yes. it's not in a package named libapache2-userdir though |
| 00:47.36 | rockstar_ | abrotman : We all to smile sometimes. |
| 00:47.43 | dvs | !troll rockstar_ |
| 00:47.55 | DaBlade | rockstar_: It's called BitTorrent tracker. :) |
| 00:47.56 | onetinsoldier | dondelelcaro: ok thanks. i have used blackbox some years ago. |
| 00:47.57 | Xenguy | da-da-da-dum |
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| 00:48.25 | Xenguy | people seem to be big on fluxbox (I've never tried) |
| 00:48.32 | DaBlade | Anyway, the USB disk is 128MB, the ISO is 30-ish |
| 00:48.35 | stoned | I am big on kde |
| 00:48.39 | DaBlade | There's more than enough space, by far. |
| 00:48.45 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : Yea, I never use BitTorrents. apt-get is sufficient. |
| 00:48.46 | Shibathedog | okay thanks, im gonna boot into debian and try again |
| 00:49.04 | DaBlade | rockstar_: It's called BitTorrent, not BitTorrents. :P |
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| 00:49.28 | stoned | DaBlade, actually there are torrents of bit going on right now |
| 00:49.32 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : Now who's the troll? |
| 00:49.34 | stoned | torrents of bits* |
| 00:49.34 | cinix | rockstar_, I wish it was sufficient for me! |
| 00:49.43 | DaBlade | rockstar_: I'm merely stating facts. |
| 00:49.44 | stoned | massive torrential bit storms |
| 00:49.51 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you can use blackbox with no mouse |
| 00:50.04 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: as you can fluxbox; it's just not as optimal. |
| 00:50.22 | dondelelcaro | s/flux/open/ |
| 00:50.22 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : Sometimes it's hard to project intonation while typing. Having fun. |
| 00:50.22 | chump | is there any way to make jack rip the audio track with the name of the file? |
| 00:50.22 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: all three afaik |
| 00:50.31 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: FE, try resizing windows in them without using the mouse (or moving them) |
| 00:50.32 | abrotman | chump: huh? .. same name as the file ? |
| 00:50.42 | stoned | abrotman, I made extensive use of keys on bb4win. port of bb for windows. If I have to use windows and I absolutely have to use it, I'll disable expolrer and use bb4win as my shell |
| 00:50.46 | stoned | black box is THE shiz nit |
| 00:50.47 | rockstar_ | cinix : What do you need for BitTorrent? |
| 00:50.56 | chump | witht he actual name off the cd |
| 00:51.02 | chump | like using the db |
| 00:51.06 | scarynetworkguy | abrotman: Stop slacking you lazy bum! |
| 00:51.07 | rockstar_ | stoned : I used to use Blackbox on my dev box, and I would agree. |
| 00:51.12 | azeem | chump: what are you trying to do ? |
| 00:51.14 | chump | cd data base? |
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| 00:51.24 | chump | rip an audio cd like Slayer |
| 00:51.26 | stoned | ooh its the scary guy ;) |
| 00:51.36 | azeem | chump: you want to tell jack with CD ID to use from freedb for ripping? |
| 00:51.40 | chump | and have it say Slayer 01 raining blood.ogg |
| 00:51.41 | Carbon_Monoxide | chealer: thanks for your answer :) |
| 00:51.46 | chump | yes |
| 00:51.49 | stoned | chump, good song choice |
| 00:51.51 | abrotman | scarynetworkguy: i'd rather be at oregon trail brewery! |
| 00:52.01 | chump | haha |
| 00:52.03 | azeem | chump: jack -Q doesn't give you a list to choose from? |
| 00:52.04 | stoned | chump, ever seen em live? |
| 00:52.05 | DaBlade | So will anyone help me mount this thing? |
| 00:52.05 | chump | very good song |
| 00:52.06 | abrotman | chump: you can ask it to get from cddb or whatever it is |
| 00:52.11 | Gimp_ | has anyone here setup an icecast server before? if yes, should i be installing the "icecast-server" package, or the "icecast2" package? is there any way to get more information on a package? |
| 00:52.27 | stoned | Gimp_, apt-cache show pkg |
| 00:52.29 | chump | no i want to they are playing ozzfest this year but i live in the hottest place in the world and don't want to be out side all day |
| 00:52.30 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: I didn't help much...hope you found the right package |
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| 00:52.36 | chump | where did you see em at? |
| 00:52.41 | DaBlade | Hello? |
| 00:52.43 | chump | how would i ask it? |
| 00:52.48 | chump | or tell it to? |
| 00:52.58 | azeem | ask what? |
| 00:52.59 | chump | stoned do you like children of bodom? |
| 00:53.01 | DaBlade | It's a 30-ishMB sized ISO and an empty 128MB USB drive |
| 00:53.09 | stoned | chump, I like debian |
| 00:53.09 | Carbon_Monoxide | chealer: I think there are no package for this module, perhaps it is bundled with apache2 package |
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| 00:53.18 | azeem | chump: if you want help, try to keep general Slayer-chat on another channel |
| 00:53.20 | chump | how would i tell jack to rip it with the track name from freedb |
| 00:53.23 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : What are you trying to do? |
| 00:53.34 | azeem | chump: jack can lookup freedb info |
| 00:53.37 | DaBlade | Mount an ISO on my USB drive |
| 00:53.38 | abrotman | azeem: sorry .. we can't all be into david hasslehoff! |
| 00:53.39 | azeem | chump: is that not working for you? |
| 00:54.05 | chump | how do i have it look it up |
| 00:54.10 | abrotman | chump: what is the resulting filename when you encode to ogg ? |
| 00:54.14 | abrotman | or just rip ? |
| 00:54.16 | chealer | Carbon_Monoxide: right (apache2-common) |
| 00:54.20 | rockstar_ | DaBlade , you mean put the ISO file onto the USB drive? |
| 00:54.21 | azeem | abrotman: http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/photos/debconf_2006/img064.jpeg.html |
| 00:54.30 | DaBlade | rockstar_: No, I mean make the USB drive bootable |
| 00:54.34 | azeem | chump: jack -Q, I told you |
| 00:54.37 | DaBlade | rockstar_: As in, unpacking the ISO onto the drive |
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| 00:54.42 | dvs | DaBlade: If the ISO is bootable, I'd just do a dd from the iso file to /dev/sda |
| 00:54.51 | abrotman | azeem: that's a nice picture for your mama :) |
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| 00:55.00 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they might have an idea on how to get a gameport gamepad working in etch? i thought perhaps it would be recognized when booting up, but no dice. |
| 00:55.04 | DaBlade | dvs: just dd file.iso /dev/sda1? |
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| 00:55.16 | chump | oh thanks |
| 00:55.20 | stoned | appr. how many folk work for debian? |
| 00:55.26 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : try dd if=/dir/of/your/file.iso of=/dev/sdX |
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| 00:55.34 | DaBlade | rockstar_: Thanks |
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| 00:55.52 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : IT WILL WIPE OUT ALL OF YOUR DATA ON THE FLASH DRIVE! |
| 00:56.04 | DaBlade | rockstar_: There is none |
| 00:56.12 | cinix | unless he's got a SATA disk, then it'll wipe out his hard drive :-) |
| 00:56.20 | abrotman | azeem: that wasn't you was it ? |
| 00:56.26 | DaBlade | cinix: A USB stick.... |
| 00:56.28 | stoned | well, I mean core debian develops, how many there are, not package maintainers or other ones. Just the devs? |
| 00:56.33 | rockstar_ | DaBlade : just didn't want you to say that I didn't warn you. |
| 00:56.34 | azeem | abrotman: I hope you don't plan to become a DD in the future |
| 00:56.41 | azeem | abrotman: that was the Debian account manager |
| 00:56.42 | abrotman | azeem: eh .. why? |
| 00:56.47 | abrotman | azeem: elmo ? |
| 00:56.54 | azeem | yeah |
| 00:57.07 | rockstar_ | azeem : You work for debian? |
| 00:57.07 | abrotman | azeem: i don't think i've *ever* seen a picture of him anywhere |
| 00:57.18 | stoned | abrotman, yes you have |
| 00:57.22 | abrotman | azeem: i don't think i'm allowed to be a DD :) |
| 00:57.26 | stoned | you just did |
| 00:57.51 | rockstar_ | I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE'RE RUNNING! |
| 00:58.00 | stoned | dude, caps lock |
| 00:58.05 | stoned | baaad |
| 00:58.12 | chump | BROKEN KEYBOARD |
| 00:58.16 | rockstar_ | stoned , I just kept the shift button down. |
| 00:58.17 | stoned | oh boy |
| 00:58.18 | abrotman | azeem: nice pictures of the game court |
| 00:58.31 | stoned | ok |
| 00:58.36 | stoned | then, allcaps == bad |
| 00:58.38 | stoned | cut it out |
| 00:58.42 | rockstar_ | Sometimes I wonder if some of you ever laugh. |
| 00:58.45 | abrotman | at least .. i think that's what that was |
| 00:59.00 | stoned | rockstar_, we do, when we're not helping people like you |
| 00:59.01 | stoned | ;) |
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| 00:59.08 | chump | whats another ripper that can rip into mp3 |
| 00:59.11 | chump | i can't get lame |
| 00:59.19 | azeem | chump: you need lame for that |
| 00:59.27 | abrotman | !tell chump about lame |
| 00:59.27 | azeem | get it from marillat or so |
| 00:59.29 | abrotman | !tell chump about marillat |
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| 00:59.41 | ciphr | hi all...does PAN (the news reader) filters some newsgroup?...i cant view some stuff... :| |
| 00:59.45 | rockstar_ | stoned : I usually just google for what I need. If it's something really simple, I might ask. |
| 00:59.55 | ciphr | it is not for binary posts? |
| 01:00.08 | stoned | I would figure its the other way around, look up simple shit, but ask for complex |
| 01:00.08 | ciphr | or what? |
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| 01:00.33 | freelancer | ohh thats right I have a question to ask.... |
| 01:00.59 | abrotman | azeem: i heard DC7 is in philly! |
| 01:01.00 | rockstar_ | stoned : I wouldn't really want someone explaining to me every step for troubleshooting bugzilla, etc. If it's like, "What's the syntax for foo bar" I might ask |
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| 01:01.06 | robwilkens | I've got an issue with AMD64 -- the testing release doesn't see my network for installation. The STABLE release does see my network, but not my uli sata hard disk... Anyone have suggestions on what my best options are? |
| 01:01.22 | rockstar_ | robwilkens : nforce chipset? |
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| 01:01.47 | abrotman | robwilkens: what SATA controller .. what NIC ? .. also perhaps ask #debian-amd64 |
| 01:01.57 | robwilkens | Ok, i'll try other group. |
| 01:02.03 | elinux | robwilkens, If I was you, I would sacrifice HD instead of network :P |
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| 01:02.16 | rockstar_ | robwilkens : I just did this, same problem. |
| 01:02.25 | magyar | how can i view svideo input? |
| 01:02.27 | robwilkens | I'll try amd64 group.. See if they have ideas. |
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| 01:02.37 | rockstar_ | magyar : Depends on your video card. |
| 01:02.52 | magyar | ati |
| 01:02.54 | dvs | robwilkens: I'd try the sarge 2.6.15 install |
| 01:03.01 | rockstar_ | magyar : What driver? |
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| 01:03.13 | magyar | rockstar_: xorg sid |
| 01:03.22 | rockstar_ | magyar : You're not using fglrx? |
| 01:03.33 | abrotman | azeem: why is there a car in the library ? |
| 01:03.43 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 01:03.44 | rockstar_ | abrotman : I put it there. Sorry. |
| 01:03.45 | magyar | rockstar_: i dont have drivers for amd64 |
| 01:03.51 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> irc.debian.org moves to OFTC June 4th /msg dpkg oftc move | STATUS: http://wiki.debian.org/Status | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | THIS IS NOT #ubuntu | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 01:03.56 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:04.02 | robwilkens | dvs: Where is the sarge 2.6.15 install for download? (I tried the testing cd image) |
| 01:04.09 | Stevie-O | 2.6.15 hit sarge? |
| 01:04.12 | dvs | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 01:04.12 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 01:04.13 | abrotman | !tell robwilkens about sarge uni |
| 01:04.18 | rockstar_ | magyar : What video driver are you using in xorg? |
| 01:04.27 | freelancer | if one has a server that is enabled for virtural hosting is it posible to have quotas on the virtual domains? |
| 01:04.43 | magyar | rockstar_: radeon, i got an x800 premium |
| 01:04.49 | Stevie-O | what's the deal with htis oftc move? |
| 01:04.52 | chump | !ask marillat.sarge |
| 01:05.02 | dvs | magyar: on sarge? |
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| 01:05.12 | rockstar_ | magyar, I'm not exactly sure, but you'll need to google for Option "TVOut" |
| 01:05.12 | magyar | dvs, sid |
| 01:05.16 | dvs | ok |
| 01:05.17 | stoned | chump use /msg dpkg keyword |
| 01:05.28 | magyar | rockstar_: k , thx |
| 01:05.33 | rockstar_ | magyar : I used the fglrx driver on amd64 |
| 01:05.34 | azeem | abrotman: I dunno, that's why I took a picute |
| 01:05.36 | azeem | picture |
| 01:05.41 | rockstar_ | aticonfig is awesome. |
| 01:05.46 | abrotman | azeem: why is the cat tied to the basket ? |
| 01:05.49 | magyar | rockstar_: where did you get them? |
| 01:05.52 | azeem | abrotman: I dunno, that's why I took a picture |
| 01:06.00 | azeem | :) |
| 01:06.11 | dondelelcaro | Stevie-O: what about it? |
| 01:06.11 | abrotman | azeem: why didn't you take more pictures? |
| 01:06.42 | abrotman | azeem: that was the .. i can't remember the name .. field .. the old game that aztecs used to play |
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| 01:06.49 | abrotman | or olmecs . .whichever it was |
| 01:06.49 | rockstar_ | magyar : Check out ati.com and click on drivers/support and then linux drivers. |
| 01:07.18 | azeem | abrotman: I thought everybody else would be taking pictures anyway, so I'd just have to check gallery.debconf.org |
| 01:07.28 | abrotman | oh |
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| 01:08.15 | Azar | rockstar, I intend to get a new pc with ati, is the driver hard to find/install on Debian? |
| 01:08.31 | abrotman | rockstar_: you could have gone ... |
| 01:08.50 | stoned | bah, agp, pci == crap. sli/pci-e == pwnage |
| 01:08.54 | stoned | ehehe |
| 01:08.58 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Somehow I fell out of the loop and didn't know about it until a few days before. |
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| 01:09.03 | dvs | pwnage? |
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| 01:09.20 | stoned | yeh, well I tried to sound like one of them windows l33t gamers |
| 01:09.21 | rockstar_ | Azar : I've got ATI cards in 6 different computers, it's easy peasy pumpkin sqeezy. |
| 01:09.24 | knoth | to install PHP on debian, i have to use "apt-get install php" ? |
| 01:09.42 | abrotman | knoth: for use with apache or what? |
| 01:09.43 | rockstar_ | knoth : try apt-get install php4 |
| 01:09.43 | dvs | !info php sarge |
| 01:09.49 | Azar | rockstar_: is there a debianized package for the ati driver, or you just install it from the ati.com? |
| 01:09.53 | knoth | to use with apache! apache is also installed |
| 01:09.58 | abrotman | apache1? |
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| 01:10.04 | knoth | yes |
| 01:10.08 | rockstar_ | Azar, there is, but it's kinda cryptic to use. I just use the ATI installer. |
| 01:10.10 | abrotman | knoth: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 01:10.22 | Azar | rockstar_: thank you |
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| 01:10.33 | knoth | tks! |
| 01:10.35 | knoth | i'll try! |
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| 01:11.08 | rockstar_ | Azar : I'm in here all the time if you need help. It's one of my "specialties" |
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| 01:11.40 | Azar | rockstar_: great, because ati does get much help in debian |
| 01:11.58 | rockstar_ | Azar : I see a lot of people using radeon, but not fglrx |
| 01:12.18 | onetinsoldier | i've got fglrx working |
| 01:12.23 | Azar | rockstar_: it will be my first ati , I only used nvidia so far |
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| 01:13.05 | rockstar_ | Azar, could you say you're an ATI virgin? |
| 01:13.20 | Azar | rockstar_: indeed |
| 01:13.23 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : I remember helping you a bit. |
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| 01:13.30 | chealer | azeem: so elmo was at debconf6, but he escaped Lars' camera? |
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| 01:13.59 | Gimp_ | how can i uninstall a package that ive installed? |
| 01:14.05 | azeem | chealer: apparently |
| 01:14.07 | rockstar_ | Wow, how many of you went to debconf? |
| 01:14.28 | chump | does lame rip? |
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| 01:14.48 | chealer | azeem: OK, thanks for catching him anyway :) maybe it should be added to Debconf6Pictures |
| 01:14.49 | abrotman | chump: hehe .. you're having all kinds of fun |
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| 01:14.56 | stoned | chump, lame aint an mp3 encoder |
| 01:14.57 | chump | totally |
| 01:15.08 | chump | i'm not sure what that means |
| 01:15.09 | NaufraGo | can I share files with win? |
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| 01:15.20 | chump | yeah Naufrago |
| 01:15.22 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: yeah.. i wasn't able to get it working though. i found out my installl was not setup properly for use with 2.6.x.x kernels. once i got that out of the way it installed ok |
| 01:15.23 | chump | just use samba |
| 01:15.29 | chealer | Gimp_: which APT frontend do you prefer? |
| 01:15.34 | chump | so lame just converts |
| 01:15.36 | abrotman | chump: use --encoder-name "lame" |
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| 01:17.21 | chump | abrotman what does lame do exactly? |
| 01:17.44 | abrotman | chump: afaict .. change wav to mp3 :) |
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| 01:20.02 | sid | chump: What desktop enviroment/window manager...and what version of debian? |
| 01:20.08 | Gimp_ | chealer: what do you mean? |
| 01:20.16 | funkja | What does this error mean what I try to start apache2? [Wed May 24 20:18:31 2006] [error] (EAI 2)Name or service not known: Cannot resolve host name jasonleefunk.com --- ignoring! |
| 01:20.16 | funkja | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.18 | chump | KDE |
| 01:20.21 | chump | sarge |
| 01:20.35 | dvs | funkja: looks like DNS to me |
| 01:20.37 | chealer | Gimp_: there are several ways to remove a package, depending on whether you use synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, etc. |
| 01:20.43 | Gimp_ | chealer: i used apt-get |
| 01:20.52 | chealer | Gimp_: # apt-get remove foo |
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| 01:21.14 | sid | !marillat.sarge |
| 01:21.14 | dpkg | somebody said marillat.sarge was marillat's repository for sarge/stable. To add the repository, su root, cd /etc/apt and then: echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sarge main" >>sources.list -OR- echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main" >>sources.list ..... then apt-get update |
| 01:21.16 | Gimp_ | chealer: thanks! |
| 01:21.20 | sid | chump: type the command dpkg said |
| 01:21.35 | funkja | dvs: hmm I would think so to, when I just my virutal host from jasonleefunk.com to www.jasonleefunk.com it seems to start fine - though the browser says "The requested URL/ was not found here" |
| 01:21.44 | chump | sid i did that |
| 01:22.00 | sid | chump: apt-get install k9copy |
| 01:22.06 | sid | k9copy - copy DVD like dvdshrink |
| 01:22.19 | Daveman | yo abrotman |
| 01:22.32 | abrotman | Daveman: can you move out of NJ so we can nuke it ? |
| 01:23.01 | Daveman | eh |
| 01:23.08 | Daveman | wait, let me collect all my fibre, then okay :P |
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| 01:23.39 | chump | thanks sid |
| 01:23.51 | chump | i'm apt-get updating right now |
| 01:24.00 | Daveman | Any idea what would cause mtab to become corrupted? |
| 01:24.15 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: lots of things can cause that to happen. |
| 01:24.29 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: you can just cp /proc/mounts /etc/mtab to "restore" it if necessary. |
| 01:24.34 | sid | chump: sure |
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| 01:24.39 | sid | chump: Let me know how it works out. |
| 01:24.43 | chump | hmm its not finding the package |
| 01:24.53 | chump | chump:/etc/apt# apt-get install k9copy |
| 01:24.53 | chump | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 01:24.53 | chump | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 01:24.53 | chump | E: Couldn't find package k9copy |
| 01:24.53 | chump | chump:/etc/apt# |
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| 01:25.06 | sid | lol |
| 01:25.07 | knoth | this command: "apt-get install libapache-mod-php5" if i want to install on apache 2, i have to use "apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5"? |
| 01:25.14 | Daveman | dondelelcaro, provided it doesn't encounter an I/O error when attempting to do it :p |
| 01:25.18 | Daveman | :\ |
| 01:25.24 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: uh... if you get that, your disk is toast |
| 01:25.28 | Daveman | nope |
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| 01:25.37 | khaladan | can I make a command act as if it was run w/ nohup AFTER it has started running? |
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| 01:25.46 | Daveman | I think my drivers finally crapped out |
| 01:25.49 | dondelelcaro | the only time mtab is consulted is when you're doing mounting or unmounting |
| 01:25.52 | chump | i was kicked sorry |
| 01:25.52 | Daveman | fucking 2.6tree |
| 01:25.55 | sid | chump: Put your /etc/apt/sources.list file on http://debian.pastebin.com |
| 01:25.59 | Daveman | dondelelcaro, right |
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| 01:26.24 | Daveman | ironically it has no problem printing the mtab contents on boot, but after everything inits and I login it's corrupt, yay |
| 01:26.34 | sid | chump: Is this a production server or a desktop machine? |
| 01:26.39 | Daveman | and everything else soon turns into reset channel chaos, ah the nostalgia |
| 01:26.41 | chump | give me a second |
| 01:26.44 | chump | desktop |
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| 01:27.44 | abrotman | you're not even close! |
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| 01:28.07 | Daveman | wtf? |
| 01:28.09 | dazedyugo | hello all --- has anyone using kernel 2.6.16.18 noticed a pretty significant leak where 1MB ram is lost per second? |
| 01:28.16 | abrotman | elinux: what don't i have against NJ@! |
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| 01:28.21 | Daveman | abrotman, oh go watch kyw or something you sissy :P |
| 01:28.21 | dvs | elinux: it blocks PA from the ocean |
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| 01:28.31 | abrotman | Daveman: go play in chemical row! |
| 01:28.35 | Daveman | woot |
| 01:28.36 | chump | http://debian.pastebin.com/736284 |
| 01:28.38 | Daveman | elizabeth here I come! |
| 01:28.41 | dvs | Garden State my ass! |
| 01:28.53 | Daveman | 46-48+% increased risk of birth defects and cancer - woot! |
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| 01:29.56 | chump | daveman what cauces 46% of birth defects and cancer |
| 01:29.57 | chump | ? |
| 01:30.07 | abrotman | chump: NJ |
| 01:30.12 | Stevie-O | yeah, dvs, when the polar caps melt, PA will become beachfront property |
| 01:30.18 | stoned | nature? |
| 01:30.22 | dvs | muhahaha |
| 01:30.28 | Daveman | abrotman, oh shush :P |
| 01:30.32 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:30.34 | chump | haha |
| 01:30.39 | Stevie-O | the nick Daveman makes me think of a superhero |
| 01:30.42 | abrotman | Daveman: did i tell you i did work on Chemical Row ? |
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| 01:30.47 | chump | did i do that pastebin right sid? |
| 01:30.49 | dvs | Super Dave! |
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| 01:30.53 | Daveman | abrotman, fix the IDE DMA bug and rewrite some good drivers for 2.6 tree, kthx. |
| 01:30.55 | Daveman | ;) |
| 01:30.58 | Stevie-O | Able to install a full gentoo distro in a single night |
| 01:30.59 | stoned | Awesome Man? |
| 01:30.59 | Daveman | dvs: YES! |
| 01:31.04 | Crimson | what is cancer anyway? |
| 01:31.08 | Daveman | abrotman, did you? |
| 01:31.11 | Daveman | wow. |
| 01:31.16 | Daveman | elinux :) |
| 01:31.16 | Stevie-O | Crimson: a zodiac symbol |
| 01:31.27 | stoned | hey |
| 01:31.28 | elinux | Daveman, :P |
| 01:31.31 | Stevie-O | looks like a crab |
| 01:31.32 | sid | chump: apt-get update && apt-get install k9copy |
| 01:31.33 | Stevie-O | I think |
| 01:31.35 | dvs | Stevie-O: next month actually |
| 01:31.35 | stoned | you knnow what would be a cool superhero? |
| 01:31.36 | abrotman | Daveman: that jail kicks ass! |
| 01:31.41 | Daveman | hahaha |
| 01:31.43 | Daveman | huhu |
| 01:31.55 | sid | chump: yes you did it right |
| 01:32.05 | Crimson | aha depends on the context i guess |
| 01:32.08 | sid | chump: http://debian.pastebin.com/736284 |
| 01:32.12 | stoned | Look, its faster than a speeding bullet, can leap tall buildings in a single bound, its a bird, its a plane, no, its Abrotman! |
| 01:32.15 | shogunx_ | stoned nuggetman? |
| 01:32.16 | Stevie-O | haha |
| 01:32.17 | stoned | eheheh |
| 01:32.23 | dvs | doh |
| 01:32.40 | stoned | shogunx_, you know it |
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| 01:33.01 | Daveman | dpkg, spank the kernel devs |
| 01:33.08 | Stevie-O | for what? |
| 01:33.08 | Daveman | Excellent. |
| 01:33.20 | elinux | lol Daveman |
| 01:33.21 | chump | sid same resolve |
| 01:33.22 | azeem | Daveman: please stop abusing the bot |
| 01:33.27 | Stevie-O | !botabuse |
| 01:33.27 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 01:33.30 | Daveman | It's not abuse? |
| 01:33.32 | cunakya | dpkg is female? |
| 01:33.37 | Daveman | haha |
| 01:33.43 | Stevie-O | lmfao |
| 01:33.45 | cunakya | interesting |
| 01:33.47 | Crimson | any good radio programs out there? |
| 01:33.55 | Stevie-O | Nick Danger |
| 01:33.56 | kali67 | Trying to install Debian 3.1 on a system with Promise FastTrack TX4310 - no luck :( |
| 01:33.56 | sid | chump: I guess k9copy isn't for sarge in marillat. |
| 01:34.07 | Daveman | kali67, hahahaha |
| 01:34.08 | stoned | Crimson, NPR has some good programing |
| 01:34.14 | chump | yeah i'm haveing a lot of trouble getting dvd copying software for sarge |
| 01:34.25 | kali67 | any suggestions ? |
| 01:34.29 | chump | seems like etch would be a better move for me |
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| 01:34.39 | Daveman | 2.6 doesn't support Promise technology IDE controllers... >:\ |
| 01:34.40 | sid | chump: I agree. |
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| 01:34.49 | Crimson | right... |
| 01:34.49 | chump | if i didn't have such crappy internet connection i would just do a dist upgrade |
| 01:34.53 | Alejo | alo |
| 01:34.55 | dvs | There's a qotd |
| 01:35.01 | wolf4911 | where do I change kdm to gdm? |
| 01:35.16 | sid | chump: What is your internet connection? |
| 01:35.21 | Stevie-O | Daveman: but 2.4 did? |
| 01:35.21 | chump | DWAY |
| 01:35.22 | azeem | wolf4911: in the display manager |
| 01:35.28 | azeem | wolf4911: choose a different session |
| 01:35.29 | chump | which gets 100K second download |
| 01:35.30 | Daveman | Stevie-O, yep works fine in 2.4 |
| 01:35.31 | kali67 | Any recommended raid cards ? |
| 01:35.38 | abrotman | sata or scsi ? |
| 01:35.39 | Stevie-O | Daveman: Then port the 2.4 driver to 2.6 |
| 01:35.41 | Daveman | Stevie-O, check it out sometime, the problem was introduced in 2.5 |
| 01:35.42 | kali67 | sata2 |
| 01:35.46 | chump | but the second i hit 165 megs in a day it throtles me back to 5k a sec |
| 01:35.47 | abrotman | something that isn't fakeraid :) |
| 01:35.47 | Stevie-O | Where would I check it out? |
| 01:35.52 | chump | its best internet ever |
| 01:35.59 | Daveman | Search for it, you'll get a ton of results regarding it... |
| 01:36.01 | Alejo | Hello I Install Debian, just the base system... but the installer jump the section to users and root password... How can I log on Now??? |
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| 01:36.05 | Daveman | last time I checked, anyway |
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| 01:36.23 | Daveman | abrotman, IDE DMA |
| 01:36.27 | dvs | chump: 165 megs? Man I'd switch |
| 01:36.40 | chump | problem is only thing availible to me is this |
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| 01:36.46 | wolf4911 | azeem>where do I edit manually |
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| 01:36.49 | chump | i wouldn't normally go for this crappy interent |
| 01:36.52 | kali67 | Alejo: you should be able to boot into single user mode at the grub prompt |
| 01:36.52 | abrotman | Daveman: do you have any idea how much i hate DMA? |
| 01:36.55 | chump | but its the best thing i have |
| 01:37.02 | Stevie-O | that's the DMCA, abrotman |
| 01:37.14 | Daveman | The worst part which always just pissed me off a bit was the fact that no one was ever authoritatively willing to acknowledge the fact that it existed, most likely so they could just ignore it... |
| 01:37.14 | abrotman | Stevie-O: no .. DMA |
| 01:37.15 | Stevie-O | DMA is a good thing (except when you're using a shitty via chipset) |
| 01:37.25 | Daveman | heh |
| 01:37.29 | abrotman | Stevie-O: Damn Minature Aliens |
| 01:37.31 | chump | beyond the service sucking |
| 01:37.34 | chump | i have two differnt ips |
| 01:37.41 | chump | incoming and outgoing |
| 01:37.50 | Stevie-O | oh, i hate those too |
| 01:37.50 | chump | so direct connections do not work |
| 01:37.58 | Stevie-O | Daveman: then fix it yourself |
| 01:37.59 | Alejo | kali67: you mean in grub a "single user mode" option? |
| 01:38.03 | Daveman | but yeah, I last rewrote the drivers and they worked great... for a time... but now I guess it's all exploded again, and I'm back to square one :( |
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| 01:38.10 | Daveman | Stevie-O, pass. |
| 01:38.12 | dvs | chump: OK. So that's REALLY messed up. |
| 01:38.15 | Daveman | I've already been down this road. |
| 01:38.26 | chump | haha |
| 01:38.27 | Stevie-O | Why? |
| 01:38.35 | chump | yea my interent is the worst ever besides dial up |
| 01:38.35 | Stevie-O | You seem to know plenty about it |
| 01:39.17 | Stevie-O | chump: whom did you poll that told you we all wanted to hear, over and over and over, about how much your connection sucks? |
| 01:39.29 | Alejo | in the grub options?? |
| 01:39.36 | sid | chump: http://debian.pastebin.com/736298 |
| 01:39.49 | Daveman | Stevie-O, well, several days and days and a week more of researching, plus, speaking with the community, plus trial and error will do that ;) |
| 01:40.00 | sid | chump: If you do dist-upgrade your sources.list should look like that(These are my sources.list) and the bottom commands are to get gpg keys |
| 01:40.02 | Daveman | not to mention a good solid foundation and experience in C :P |
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| 01:40.11 | dfgs | Does Debian work on Intel macs? |
| 01:40.13 | Daveman | but yeah, I guess I'll try again... :\ |
| 01:40.16 | Daveman | heh |
| 01:40.17 | sid | chump: What is your download speed? |
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| 01:40.42 | Stevie-O | Daveman: I have trouble believing that so many people have had this problem yet nobody's made a patch |
| 01:41.01 | chump | 100k |
| 01:41.14 | azeem | dfgs: not out of the box |
| 01:41.26 | azeem | dfgs: or rather, maybe with some extreme hackery |
| 01:41.31 | Stevie-O | Why not just get a cheap emachines box |
| 01:41.41 | chump | Stevie-0 quit being a D bag. ppl asked me what internet i had so i simply described why it sucked |
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| 01:42.10 | dfgs | azeem: how long till it will be easy to get working? |
| 01:42.16 | azeem | no idea |
| 01:42.53 | dondelelcaro | if you want it to be easier, I suggest sending select members of the d-i team brand new intel macbooks |
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| 01:44.04 | abrotman | why not macminis ? |
| 01:44.12 | dvs | or big macs |
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| 01:44.42 | dfgs | Don't really have the money for that.. |
| 01:44.42 | kspath | abrotman: question was about dual-core intel mac |
| 01:44.50 | abrotman | kspath: right .. mac minis |
| 01:44.52 | kspath | dfgs: get some |
| 01:44.59 | abrotman | kspath: the mac minis are dualcore now |
| 01:45.03 | kspath | abrotman: omg |
| 01:45.04 | azeem | abrotman: mac minis are out of production, no? |
| 01:45.08 | azeem | maybe you mean imacs? |
| 01:45.11 | dfgs | actually I do have the money for that but I'm not sure I can justify the expense |
| 01:45.12 | abrotman | darn it .. i'll smack you all |
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| 01:45.17 | elinux | Hello, I recently installed a package that made me install tons of dependencies. Since then, my xserver wont start anymore |
| 01:45.27 | abrotman | http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/0.RSLID?mco=37CDA12F&nclm=Macmini |
| 01:45.35 | Stevie-O | elinux: running sid? |
| 01:45.35 | kspath | !darnsmite abrotman |
| 01:45.39 | Daveman | Stevie-O, last I checked, there had been several attempts by a few random individuals, though to my knowledge there was never anything "stable" enough or someone who stood by their patch affirmatively enough to warrant its success or whatnot |
| 01:45.46 | cshaman | Hello all. |
| 01:45.54 | Daveman | Plus they were all pretty similar, hacks. |
| 01:45.57 | azeem | abrotman: hrm, right |
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| 01:46.05 | abrotman | azeem: though .. i'd like a PPC mini |
| 01:46.13 | elinux | I am on sarge |
| 01:46.20 | Daveman | :) |
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| 01:46.33 | abrotman | elinux: errors are good |
| 01:46.49 | elinux | abrotman, I know, but not when you dont know what to do with them |
| 01:46.53 | kspath | asg: hehehe |
| 01:46.57 | elinux | abrotman, :) |
| 01:47.07 | abrotman | elinux: share them ? |
| 01:47.15 | kspath | elinux: give them all to abrotman. |
| 01:47.26 | elinux | yeah, abrotman is the man |
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| 01:48.19 | l00pdee | can i upgrade stable to unstable ? |
| 01:48.21 | abrotman | elinux: we can't help you if we don't know the errors |
| 01:48.25 | elinux | abrotman, basically, it installed tons of stuff, including graphic server things, including x11-common which asked me disturbing questions |
| 01:48.30 | abrotman | l00pdee: if you have to ask .. no |
| 01:48.53 | elinux | abrotman, no worries, all comming, just trying to point out what is important, not pasting the whole stuff |
| 01:48.56 | asg | l00pdee: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 01:48.59 | l00pdee | abrotman: cool, how do i do it ? .. dit-upgrade ? |
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| 01:49.04 | elinux | abrotman, what is link for big pastes? |
| 01:49.11 | azeem | !paster |
| 01:49.11 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 01:49.12 | abrotman | l00pdee: i think we just covered this .. if you have to ask .. no |
| 01:49.15 | elinux | thx |
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| 01:49.34 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 01:49.34 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 01:49.42 | l00pdee | abrotman: sorry |
| 01:49.45 | redphoenix1 | hello |
| 01:50.10 | redphoenix1 | i installed debian with deboot strap but when i try to boot i get the problem here http://new.linuxresources.com/node/21 |
| 01:50.12 | elinux | abrotman, so x11-common asked told me: Configuration file `/etc/X11/Xsession' |
| 01:50.12 | elinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.12 | elinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.15 | Daveman | damn... I'm not seeing anything that looks promising... as of late (no pun intended) ;P |
| 01:50.19 | abrotman | l00pdee: things break .. badly . if you have no idea how to fix them .. probably not a good idea to use unstable |
| 01:50.22 | redphoenix1 | what can i do to fix this? |
| 01:50.36 | redphoenix1 | it tries to boot everything from /root/* |
| 01:50.39 | redphoenix1 | and not / |
| 01:50.47 | elinux | abrotman, I tried to tell him to keep old and to try new one... but both screwed up x server setup |
| 01:50.52 | l00pdee | abrotman: yeah, i've been craving for something, i'm hopeing that thats not it |
| 01:51.05 | abrotman | craving for something? |
| 01:51.20 | l00pdee | my stomach is growling .. food |
| 01:51.21 | abrotman | elinux: look in the X log file |
| 01:51.32 | elinux | abrotman, and now it seems that it is configured to use xfree but Xorg is installed |
| 01:51.37 | elinux | abrotman, something in between |
| 01:51.46 | abrotman | elinux: error logs are good! :) |
| 01:51.59 | dvs | abrotman: not if they have something in them! |
| 01:52.21 | abrotman | dvs: better than guessing at the problem |
| 01:52.37 | streuner | "the weapon is good, the woody is evil" |
| 01:52.52 | elinux | abrotman, which file should I look for? |
| 01:53.01 | abrotman | your X log in /var/log/ |
| 01:54.14 | Daveman | heh |
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| 01:55.18 | redphoenix1 | can some one help? |
| 01:55.27 | elinux | abrotman, hum.... It's not a problem with Xfree itself |
| 01:55.33 | shibathedog | hey one last question today, i configured x wrong, i set my max resolution as 800X600, how can i fix this? Do i type dpkg reconfigure xserver? |
| 01:55.59 | elinux | abrotman, It's more like... I had xfree installed, and now xfree seems to be uninstalled and have been replaced by xorg |
| 01:56.07 | dondelelcaro | shibathedog: xserver-xorg, (or xserver-xfree86), but yes. |
| 01:56.15 | shibathedog | thanks |
| 01:56.32 | abrotman | elinux: are you using sarge? |
| 01:57.03 | elinux | abrotman, yes |
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| 01:57.13 | abrotman | elinux: xorg doesn't get installed by accident |
| 01:57.22 | abrotman | elinux: paste your sources somewhere |
| 01:57.32 | elinux | abrotman, alright |
| 01:57.34 | shibathedog | hmm i think im doing something wrong, i am typing it in but it just gives me dpkg command options |
| 01:57.43 | shibathedog | do i need to be logged in as root? |
| 01:57.44 | abrotman | !drxx shibathedog |
| 01:57.45 | dpkg | shibathedog: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:57.47 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:57.49 | travisat | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:57.56 | travisat | not dpkg -reconfigure |
| 01:58.04 | travisat | or dpkg --reconfigure |
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| 01:58.23 | elinux | !paste |
| 01:58.24 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 01:59.36 | elinux | abrotman, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2629 |
| 01:59.43 | elinux | abrotman, this is my paste |
| 01:59.58 | abrotman | elinux: you setup backports |
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| 02:00.07 | abrotman | and now it's using xorg from backports |
| 02:00.20 | elinux | abrotman, uh, that is not realy what I want |
| 02:00.34 | abrotman | did you read the instructions at backports.org ? |
| 02:00.38 | elinux | abrotman, backport... weird |
| 02:00.50 | elinux | abrotman, I am not trying to do a backport |
| 02:01.07 | abrotman | elinux: paste your sources |
| 02:01.12 | abrotman | /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:01.44 | abrotman | of course .. the fact that dpkg exited badly .. that might mean something |
| 02:01.54 | elinux | certainly |
| 02:03.25 | elinux | !paste |
| 02:03.25 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 02:03.58 | elinux | abrotman, just a sec, seems like I might have backport in my sources.list... |
| 02:04.10 | abrotman | no kidding! |
| 02:04.13 | abrotman | i think i said that |
| 02:04.15 | elinux | but why would it be added at installation? |
| 02:04.22 | azeem | at installation? |
| 02:04.25 | Daveman | promise bastards! |
| 02:04.57 | abrotman | elinux: please paste your sources |
| 02:05.02 | elinux | abrotman, my sarge installation is brand new |
| 02:05.22 | elinux | abrotman, just a sec |
| 02:05.23 | abrotman | elinux: an official netinst doesn't include backports |
| 02:05.23 | azeem | the default sources.list does not contain backports.org |
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| 02:06.32 | bintut | any repositories you can recommend except for the main, contrib, non-free and backports? |
| 02:06.39 | benson | does yahoo have a support email? |
| 02:06.46 | benson | is there any way to contact yahoo? |
| 02:06.48 | abrotman | ask yahoo.com ? |
| 02:06.53 | nse | good place to ask this! |
| 02:06.57 | elinux | abrotman, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2630 |
| 02:07.01 | chump | with lame is there a way to have it convert an entire folder of .ogg's? |
| 02:07.01 | benson | nse, where else should i ask? |
| 02:07.09 | elinux | abrotman, yes, there are backports in there ... |
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| 02:07.22 | abrotman | elinux: well .. Debian didn't add those two extra sources |
| 02:07.29 | elinux | abrotman, no it didnt |
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| 02:07.42 | abrotman | so you didn't follow instructions at backports.org |
| 02:07.53 | nse | benson: yahoo.com |
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| 02:08.01 | elinux | abrotman, no |
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| 02:08.39 | elinux | abrotman, damn... I didnt know this could cause that much problems |
| 02:08.48 | abrotman | they're not official |
| 02:08.58 | Daveman | oh lovely, more I/O error |
| 02:09.07 | elinux | abrotman, backport is used to stuff on sarge that has been developped for etch right? |
| 02:09.13 | azeem | hrm, I think they should really have an apt source per source package |
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| 02:09.41 | abrotman | azeem: i agree .. but not my call |
| 02:09.54 | abrotman | elinux: erm .. kind of |
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| 02:10.45 | travisat | if you are using sarge you shouldn't use backports unless you have to or in rare circumstances.................. |
| 02:11.03 | elinux | abrotman, is there a.... you know, an undo button :D |
| 02:11.12 | asg | haha |
| 02:11.16 | rockstar_ | Is anyone else having a problem with the amd64 apt sources? I get a lot of 404 File Not Found on Packages.gz, etc. |
| 02:11.17 | elinux | lol |
| 02:11.29 | abrotman | elinux: depends how you define . "button" |
| 02:11.47 | elinux | abrotman, say it can be a couple of command lines |
| 02:12.13 | elinux | abrotman, or if my installation is rather new, would it just be easier to wipe out and reinstall? |
| 02:12.18 | abrotman | elinux: it can't .. but it's not anything you want to see :) |
| 02:12.25 | abrotman | elinux: what were you actually doing with backports? |
| 02:12.52 | onetinsoldier | rockstar: i have been told that amd64 is now on the standard mirrors and debian-amd64 is now old and unofficial |
| 02:13.00 | elinux | abrotman, I dont need backport |
| 02:13.19 | abrotman | elinux: then why did you put it in there? |
| 02:13.24 | elinux | abrotman, probably saw it somewhere and pasted it in my source.list without knowing it would arm |
| 02:13.48 | bintut | onetinsoldier: standard mirrors? for amd64 sarge you mean? |
| 02:13.56 | abrotman | elinux: HINT .. don't do that |
| 02:14.00 | benson | daniel, girls manage that account |
| 02:14.11 | benson | i suspect they are leaving it full to try and give me a heart attack |
| 02:14.12 | abrotman | benson: wrong channel ? |
| 02:14.19 | Stevie-O | girls? what are girls? |
| 02:14.39 | abrotman | Stevie-O: like your grandma .. but with teeth |
| 02:14.44 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 02:14.51 | elinux | abrotman, noted, wont do do it again |
| 02:15.05 | abrotman | elinux: you can .. just be aware of what you're doing |
| 02:15.25 | Daveman | :( |
| 02:15.26 | elinux | abrotman, yeah, but as travisat said, you do it only when needed |
| 02:15.26 | onetinsoldier | bintut: i guess. probably for etch and sid too i suppose. someone updated thier sources.list and then did ap-tget update and then installed one package and checked out the arch it instaleld and said it installa amd64 arch. then they did apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:15.33 | onetinsoldier | for sid! |
| 02:16.03 | rockstar_ | Is there a way I can force packages to install, no matter what the dependencies. I keep getting these problems with libraries being too new, so the deb apt packages won't install. |
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| 02:16.26 | bintut | onetinsoldier: ok.. actually, i'm currently using an amd turion64 laptop but i just installed sarge i386 on this.. |
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| 02:16.57 | bintut | onetinsoldier: but if you tell me that amd64 is already official in etch, i'd dist-upgrade |
| 02:17.01 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : How'd you find that out? I don't want to go just on rumors. |
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| 02:17.08 | elinux | abrotman, so, is undo easier than wipe? |
| 02:17.26 | rockstar_ | bintut : I'm running etch fine on amd64. |
| 02:17.28 | abrotman | elinux: do you have data on the machine >? |
| 02:17.35 | elinux | abrotman, I dont mind wipping it if it is to harsh, as I said, it's brand new installation |
| 02:17.48 | elinux | abrotman, hum, I get the message |
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| 02:18.06 | abrotman | elinux: you can undo it .. but if you have no data .. just reinstall |
| 02:18.16 | bintut | rockstar_: native amd64? |
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| 02:18.44 | bintut | onetinsoldier: yes, i seconded rockstar_.. :) |
| 02:18.50 | onetinsoldier | bintut: ok |
| 02:18.58 | bintut | onetinsoldier: you mean http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ is not updated? |
| 02:18.59 | onetinsoldier | :-) |
| 02:19.01 | elinux | abrotman, alright, thx for the help |
| 02:19.02 | mrec__ | does anyone know something like the ncurses dialog tool but with gtk2 support? |
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| 02:19.18 | elinux | abrotman, just so I now, how did you notice there was backport in that? |
| 02:19.54 | rockstar_ | bintut: Aye, there's the rub. I don't completely understand the difference between native 64 and the amd64 kernel. |
| 02:19.56 | abrotman | elinux: sarge doesn't have xorg |
| 02:20.01 | Daveman | haha |
| 02:20.33 | elinux | abrotman, lol, alright, I guess I would have seen that if I knew it better |
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| 02:20.42 | rockstar_ | mrec__: You mean, like glade? |
| 02:20.58 | abrotman | gazpacho! |
| 02:20.59 | bintut | rockstar_: native amd64 means that all your packages were built for/on amd64 arch.. amd64 kernel is only your kernel that is on amd64 and the rest are all in i386 |
| 02:21.17 | onetinsoldier | bintut: i really don't kow know anything more than what i saw yesterday: a fellow was on here yesterday having trouble upgrading his sid installation. he was informed by stew that his sources.list was outdated and that amd64 was nor in the standard mirror location(no debian-amd64 in the adress needed anymore) and then he updated his sources.list and was then told apt-get dist-upgrade was going to |
| 02:21.29 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 02:21.30 | rockstar_ | bintut: Hm, I'm using the amd64 apt sources. They're not the same as the i386 sources. |
| 02:21.45 | abrotman | bintut: what's the problem? |
| 02:21.59 | onetinsoldier | download 450 MB's of updates because he had that old address in there and had been using ir for quite some time |
| 02:22.01 | bintut | rockstar_: yeah, they're not.. |
| 02:22.03 | mrec__ | rockstar_: hmm not really, do you know the dialog tool which is also used by "make menuconfig" for the kernelconfiguration? I need something similar but it should support gtk2 |
| 02:22.06 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : I'm actually grabbing from debian.csail.mit.edu |
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| 02:22.18 | monkey32 | hello, someone knows where I can get a REALLY cheap hosting? |
| 02:22.19 | monkey32 | just for few html and css files, ??? |
| 02:22.21 | monkey32 | :) |
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| 02:22.28 | abrotman | bintut: wait .. what's going on? |
| 02:22.33 | elinux | abrotman, if you liked NJ, you would be perfect ;) |
| 02:22.38 | bintut | abrotman: i'm currently running sarge i386 on my amd64 laptop. if the native amd64 on the mirrors already on etch, i'd grab it |
| 02:22.38 | monkey32 | * (I don like gaim) |
| 02:22.47 | abrotman | elinux: i live outside philly :) |
| 02:23.00 | elinux | abrotman, I dont knwo where NJ is :) |
| 02:23.06 | abrotman | elinux: darn you! |
| 02:23.13 | rockstar_ | bintut: So you're telling me I'm not really running 64 bit packages? |
| 02:23.42 | elinux | abrotman, lol, I come from Canada... know approx where it is... but not enought to say you should like NJ |
| 02:23.43 | monkey32 | of course |
| 02:23.48 | rockstar_ | I grab my deb from debian.csail.mit.edu -- Those aren't 64bit packages? |
| 02:23.50 | elinux | abrotman, so just nuke it :P |
| 02:23.52 | benson | I received several pieces of trojan-spliced email forged to appear as from a friend in my addressbook for that account. |
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| 02:23.59 | abrotman | bintut: it is .. but you can't just go from 32bit to 64bit like that |
| 02:24.03 | bintut | rockstar_: if you're using an amd64 apt sources.list then you're currently using a native amd64 perhaps |
| 02:24.10 | abrotman | elinux: eh? :) |
| 02:24.20 | bintut | abrotman: you mean, i can't just do a dist-upgrade? |
| 02:24.29 | abrotman | bintut: you can .. but you'll be on 32bit etch |
| 02:24.30 | rockstar_ | bintut: You see, if I figure that out, then we know that etch in on amd64 native. |
| 02:24.36 | benson | My friend uses hushmail. That account is fastmail. If my friend is infected, would not mail also get sent to my hushmail account, the main account I use to communicate with them? |
| 02:24.37 | rockstar_ | 'Cause I'm running etch. |
| 02:24.41 | abrotman | bintut: if you want 64bit etch .. use the amd64 etch installer |
| 02:24.55 | abrotman | bintut: be aware that not all things work on pure64 |
| 02:25.16 | onetinsoldier | how do you specify the arch that you want apt-get to install/use? |
| 02:25.18 | bintut | abrotman: what if i'll change my sources.list to point to an amd64 etch mirror and do a dist-upgrade? |
| 02:25.21 | rockstar_ | abrotman: Can you help me with the terminology there? What's the difference between amd64, native 64, and pure 64? |
| 02:25.29 | abrotman | bintut: it won't do it |
| 02:25.52 | sproingie | bintut: you could use debootstrap for a 32 bit userland and switch to that, possibly (the kernel would still be tricky). but 32 to 64 bit, not gonna happen |
| 02:26.00 | abrotman | rockstar_: amd64 is a cpu line .. pure64 what some people call the 64bit version of debian that runs on amd64 .. |
| 02:26.11 | sproingie | bintut: it has to run those 64 bit apps when installing, and the 32 bit kernel just can't |
| 02:26.28 | rockstar_ | That's what I figured. So I was right, and am, indeed, running pure64 |
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| 02:26.37 | abrotman | rockstar_: uname -a |
| 02:27.05 | rockstar_ | 2.6.16.-1-amd64-k8 |
| 02:27.13 | abrotman | that is NOT -a |
| 02:27.31 | powder | hahahaha |
| 02:27.37 | bintut | abrotman: yeah, i know that not all runs on amd64 like the macromedia flash and j2re on firefox and acrobat reader 7.x |
| 02:27.38 | bintut | abrotman: are those non-free packages i mentioned runs on etch? |
| 02:27.40 | bintut | etch amd64? |
| 02:27.52 | rockstar_ | abrotman: Was being lazy. It reports as x86_64 |
| 02:27.59 | abrotman | there is java for pure64 now .. i think |
| 02:28.07 | abrotman | rockstar_: you could have just pasted the line |
| 02:28.12 | rockstar_ | On my dev box, can't just highlight-middle click |
| 02:28.15 | abrotman | bintut: which ones? |
| 02:28.33 | rockstar_ | abrotman : Java as a debian package? |
| 02:28.56 | abrotman | rockstar_: check java.com for manual downloads .. i think there is a 64bit version for opteron |
| 02:29.02 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: just curious, what do your packages show as if you do an apt-cache show <pkg> ...? |
| 02:29.18 | rockstar_ | Oh yeah, there are. I did that already. Was gonna kick myself if we had a working debian package. |
| 02:29.28 | onetinsoldier | mine show like the following... pool/main/a/aterm/aterm_1.0.0-2_i386.deb |
| 02:29.40 | bintut | abrotman: are you running etch amd64 out there? if yes, does macromedia flash and j2re plugins on firefox runs pretty well and the acrobat reader 7.x on a native etch amd64? |
| 02:29.59 | abrotman | bintut: i have a thinkpad |
| 02:30.20 | bintut | abrotman: what about your thinkpad? |
| 02:30.21 | abrotman | bintut: no flash for amd64 .. i think there is java .. and do people actually use acrobat on linux ? |
| 02:30.29 | powder | anybody here using audacious? |
| 02:30.31 | abrotman | bintut: it's not 64bit .. it's just a regular P4 |
| 02:30.34 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : They show up as pool/main/a/aterm/aterm_1.0.0-2_amd64.deb |
| 02:30.48 | bintut | abrotman: i still like the acrobat reader 7.x on linux.. |
| 02:30.53 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: nice :-) |
| 02:30.59 | abrotman | bintut: weirdo :) |
| 02:31.01 | basbryan | i use adobe reader |
| 02:31.04 | rockstar_ | Instead of acrobat, use xpdf or something. |
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| 02:31.17 | abrotman | gpdf/kpdf/xpdf/evince ... |
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| 02:31.44 | bintut | rockstar_: honestly, nothing compares an acrobat reader 7.x as of the moment.. |
| 02:31.49 | rockstar_ | I'm a bit upset about the flash plugin. Still trying to install mplayer64 -- No win32 codecs for 64 bit. That's okay though, 'cause I don't watch porn. |
| 02:31.56 | abrotman | it's to read a PDF ... |
| 02:32.14 | deadcat | rockstar_: you DONT use flash to watch porn stupid |
| 02:32.24 | rockstar_ | deadcat : Was referring to the win32 codecs. |
| 02:32.31 | deadcat | o |
| 02:32.45 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:32.52 | bintut | rockstar_: that's why i decided to install sarge i386 on this amd64 laptop because i can't visit flash/java applet based websites.. |
| 02:32.59 | deadcat | well. lot of softwares are still not in 64 bit yet |
| 02:33.03 | bintut | hehehe.. |
| 02:33.07 | abrotman | really .. i think there is java for amd64 |
| 02:33.18 | sproingie | deadcat: yah but most of them work fine in a 32 bit userland |
| 02:33.19 | rockstar_ | bintut: I just did the i386 chroot |
| 02:33.24 | rockstar_ | It works really well actually. |
| 02:33.38 | sproingie | deadcat: i guess if you want games, you're out of luck on 64 bit tho |
| 02:33.39 | Unity | hello, i was wondering, what IS alsa? i know it's like a sound server but then why don't i see alsad in my "ps -A" ? and, Xserver doesn't do anything about sound, so i can listen to mp3's without X running, right? |
| 02:33.40 | deadcat | sproingie: i see |
| 02:33.45 | abrotman | !alsa |
| 02:33.46 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist> |
| 02:33.50 | abrotman | nice |
| 02:33.59 | bintut | rockstar_: i386 chroot? what's the difference with mandriva's and suse's biarch? |
| 02:34.06 | travisat | Unity: yes.. |
| 02:34.11 | abrotman | !alsa is also http://alsa-project.org/ |
| 02:34.11 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
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| 02:34.17 | abrotman | !multiarch |
| 02:34.18 | dpkg | from memory, multiarch is http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch and will allow Debian many improvements like a better support for systems that can run multiple binary targets, like i386 on amd64,i386 on ia64. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/05/msg00290.html |
| 02:34.29 | sproingie | i kind of prefer the chroot for most things |
| 02:34.33 | freelancer | hi |
| 02:34.38 | abrotman | mulitarch doesn't exist yet afaik |
| 02:34.39 | rockstar_ | bintut: I don't know about mandriva, but I use Suse at work (and don't prefer it), ad they install the ia32 libs. |
| 02:34.42 | sproingie | but multiarch will be nice to have also |
| 02:35.02 | abrotman | Daveman: stop eating beans! |
| 02:35.03 | bintut | i found it.. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 02:35.07 | travisat | so could I run 8086 on my p4? |
| 02:35.12 | Daveman | abrotman haha :P |
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| 02:35.37 | Daveman | nah, it's just annoying when fsck explodes/dies |
| 02:35.39 | rockstar_ | travisat : If you could find packages and a Debian port, why not? |
| 02:35.43 | Unity | travisat: what is an example of a console mp3 player? |
| 02:35.44 | Daveman | and other trivial things |
| 02:35.50 | travisat | Unity: I like cplay |
| 02:35.51 | bintut | rockstar_: that's what i'm thinking.. why in debian uses i386 chroot as what you said while in other commercial distros uses ia32 libs? |
| 02:35.55 | shibathedog | hehe |
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| 02:35.56 | shibathedog | yeah |
| 02:35.57 | shogunx_ | Unity, mpg321 |
| 02:36.01 | rockstar_ | abrotman : That's hilarious! |
| 02:36.15 | shibathedog | im having alot of trouble getting debian on this stupid PC for some reason |
| 02:36.23 | rockstar_ | bintut, you could do it either way. |
| 02:36.23 | shibathedog | everything works now except my wireless card wont show up |
| 02:36.30 | rockstar_ | I find the chroot cleaner. |
| 02:36.37 | dli_ | shibathedog, what card? |
| 02:36.41 | rockstar_ | Plus, it's really easy to set up. |
| 02:36.41 | bintut | rockstar_: what's the preferred way? |
| 02:36.48 | shibathedog | its a Linksys Wireless G card (with speedbooster) |
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| 02:36.58 | rockstar_ | bintut: The question is "What's YOUR preferred way?" |
| 02:37.08 | dli_ | shibathedog, madwifi ? |
| 02:37.15 | bintut | rockstar_: in mandriva and suse, firefox is in 64bit but still, flash and j2re are in 32bit |
| 02:37.19 | Unity | thank you shogunx_ travisat |
| 02:37.20 | abrotman | shibathedog: you have to find out the chipset |
| 02:37.31 | bintut | rockstar_: i don't have any as long as it works.. |
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| 02:37.41 | rockstar_ | bintut: I JUST read an article about how the hack happened. I use it at work, it causes problems too. |
| 02:38.00 | Daveman | abrotman, read up on this dma silliness, if you want a challenge or are getting bored ;) |
| 02:38.04 | Daveman | haha |
| 02:38.05 | dli_ | rockstar_, make sure it's legal :( |
| 02:38.12 | rockstar_ | bintut: I would say the chroot is more stable. Then you don't have to learn about the difference between the libraries. |
| 02:38.27 | abrotman | Daveman: i used to have a friend do that stuff for me ... |
| 02:38.33 | rockstar_ | dli_: It's Suse's fault if it's not. I didn't do it. |
| 02:38.43 | rockstar_ | It came like that. |
| 02:38.48 | shibathedog | i installed the wireless tools package and im using kwifimanager, the chipset is Broadcom i beleive |
| 02:38.52 | Daveman | abrotman :) |
| 02:38.57 | rockstar_ | I was just reading how they did it, 'cause I wanted to do it. Sounds like a hack to me. |
| 02:39.06 | abrotman | Daveman: he used to curse about jens axboe constantly |
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| 02:39.14 | Daveman | heh heh |
| 02:39.20 | Daveman | abrotman, what happened to him? |
| 02:39.43 | abrotman | Daveman: jens axboe or my friend ? |
| 02:39.52 | Daveman | your friend? |
| 02:39.57 | bintut | rockstar_: what about firefox? are you saying that you're running a 32bit firefox? |
| 02:40.02 | abrotman | Daveman: he writes MPI software now :) |
| 02:40.18 | Daveman | neat :) |
| 02:40.33 | abrotman | Daveman: so i've heard |
| 02:40.45 | rockstar_ | I WAS until last night when I decided to be a snob and just forget about firefox-flash for now. I kept the link though, as /usr/bin/frefox32 |
| 02:40.55 | rockstar_ | Bleh, firefox32 |
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| 02:41.58 | rockstar_ | I'd like to reverse engineer the whole flash thing but I'm not sure of legality, so I haven't even tried yet. |
| 02:42.06 | bintut | rockstar_: ok. and it confirmed me that you're running 32bit firefox also.. |
| 02:42.29 | rockstar_ | Yea, I can run firefox or firefox32 |
| 02:42.49 | bintut | rockstar_: good to hear that.. what about openoffice.org? |
| 02:43.27 | rockstar_ | bintut : Running that from the chroot, just because I've HEARD (emphasis on the fact that it's a rumor) that openoffice.org for amd64 isn't so stable yet. |
| 02:43.52 | bintut | rockstar_: ok.. |
| 02:43.54 | rockstar_ | Stability isn't a HUGE thing for me (I'd be running sid instead of etch if x.org didn't bork my video) |
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| 02:44.46 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: what does xorg do to your video in sid? |
| 02:44.59 | bintut | rockstar_: still my personal concerns if i'd reinstall to amd64 etch: running chrooted 32bit OO.org, firefox, flash, j2re, win32codecs, mplayer, etc.. :( |
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| 02:45.18 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : It's X.org 7.0, so I lose my fglrx, and the radeon driver is really horrible. |
| 02:45.37 | rockstar_ | bintut: You set it up so that you never see that end of it. |
| 02:45.39 | bintut | rockstar_: same thing here.. i'm using an ati chipset |
| 02:45.47 | bintut | rockstar_: yeah.. |
| 02:45.48 | rockstar_ | You just run the binaries that are connected to some scripts. |
| 02:45.53 | onetinsoldier | rockstar_: well, i thought flgrx is available as packages in sid. |
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| 02:46.14 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : Not the last time I chose to gamble, and I won't be doing that for quite a while again. |
| 02:46.23 | magyar | is NCQ supported by linux kernel (sid) ? |
| 02:46.26 | onetinsoldier | !info flgrx sid |
| 02:46.41 | theonen | i am not able to connect to my AP. instead, i am getting "DHCPNAK with no active lease" msg. what's the problem? |
| 02:46.43 | rockstar_ | I lost my laptop for a good week and a half trying to fish everything out. That was my only computer at the time as well. |
| 02:46.44 | onetinsoldier | bah... i don't think i know the correct bot command |
| 02:47.05 | magyar | !fglrx |
| 02:47.05 | dpkg | rumour has it, fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
| 02:48.04 | bintut | i'm downloading this DVD iso ==> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-testing-amd64-binary-1.iso |
| 02:48.06 | onetinsoldier | magyar: there's a command you can do to see info about the actual package that's available right now. dpkg will even tell you he's update his list ;-) |
| 02:48.14 | rockstar_ | Yea, dpkg likes it the hard way. I'll use ATI's version thank you. Flavio is a nice guy, but I'd rather stick with the tried and true. |
| 02:48.19 | onetinsoldier | s/update/udating |
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| 02:49.18 | Hatter | somebody know how i can ssh into a chrooted environment ? |
| 02:49.37 | abrotman | have it listen on another port? |
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| 02:50.46 | Hatter | hmmm, the services run on the host though don't they ? |
| 02:51.01 | shibathedog | gahhhh i downloaded the NDIS wrapper and it wont compile |
| 02:51.06 | shibathedog | this is a nightmare |
| 02:51.23 | theonen | which is the channel for wlan problem? |
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| 02:53.38 | shogunx | #wireless |
| 02:53.41 | onetinsoldier | !info fglrx-driver sid |
| 02:53.43 | dpkg | fglrx-driver: (Display driver for the ATI graphics accelerators), section non-free/x11, is extra. Version: 8.24.8-1 (sid), Packaged size: 8555 kB, Installed size: 25864 kB |
| 02:54.17 | theonen | shogunx: that place is always asleep or probably dead. |
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| 02:55.15 | DrBanzai | During an install, what is SUPPOSED to happen right after the "freeing kernel memory" message? |
| 02:55.38 | Linuturk | I'm going to be purchasing a printer for a debian cash register, and it has to be a reciept printer. Can anyone help me? |
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| 02:58.15 | Gary | get a hp photosmart that's what i got lol |
| 02:58.51 | bintut | Linuturk: choose epson receipt printers |
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| 02:59.07 | Linuturk | easy to configure bintut |
| 02:59.08 | Linuturk | ? |
| 02:59.59 | Aconitic | Im getting kernel errors on my net install so someone suggested a memtest, ive just tested each stick individually and none of them come out with errors. What else could be the problem |
| 03:00.09 | bintut | Linuturk: maybe.. i personally don't have any experience on those printers.. try to check www.epson.com for their receipt printers and check your desired model at www.linuxprinting.org |
| 03:00.26 | Linuturk | thanks |
| 03:00.28 | Linuturk | useful link |
| 03:00.32 | secher | Is there a nice simple, graphical email client that'll interface with gmail and supports gpg? I'm trying to get a group of people to use gpg, but some of them are less tech savvy than others. |
| 03:00.52 | bintut | secher: evolution? |
| 03:01.01 | rockstar_ | Aconitic : Depends on the kernel error. What's the error? |
| 03:01.16 | secher | bintut: I'll look into it, thanks much man. |
| 03:01.23 | Aconitic | one second |
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| 03:02.35 | bintut | secher: yw.. :) |
| 03:04.02 | Daveman | heh |
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| 03:05.04 | Johnny_5 | how do i compile lame |
| 03:05.27 | Johnny_5 | i aleady downloaded it and untared it |
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| 03:06.08 | MegaByte | hello |
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| 03:06.16 | Johnny_5 | hello |
| 03:06.28 | mccune | hi |
| 03:06.36 | MegaByte | I have a friend running debian and he can't configure X. I told him to run xorgconfig but nothing shows up |
| 03:06.39 | MegaByte | what might be wrong? |
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| 03:06.58 | dli | MegaByte, ask dpkg about drxx |
| 03:06.58 | bintut | MegaByte: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 03:07.05 | bjohnson | I have this old laptop that I'd like to stick debian on .. problem is no floppy or cdrom drive .. just the HD that currently has win98 on. Is there a way I can install debian? |
| 03:07.11 | onetinsoldier | Johnny_5: does it have a 'configure' script? |
| 03:07.15 | MegaByte | bintut: dli thanks |
| 03:07.41 | mccune | bjohnson: Does it have a built in NIC? |
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| 03:07.54 | Johnny_5 | configure.ini |
| 03:08.07 | onetinsoldier | Johnny_5: try ./configure ...when that's done, make ...then finally make install |
| 03:08.09 | bjohnson | no .. but I have a pcmcia one that works with it |
| 03:08.29 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 03:08.58 | bintut | bjohnson: your laptop has an onboard NIC, right? if yes, most probably it supports PXE. now, you can setup a server where it will act as the install server |
| 03:09.00 | MegaByte | dli: bintut Here's what he said he gets when he runs that |
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| 03:09.49 | MegaByte | [00:09:06] Zach diz: |
| 03:09.49 | MegaByte | unable to detect gnome |
| 03:09.49 | MegaByte | [00:09:10] Zach diz: |
| 03:09.50 | MegaByte | and then other errors |
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| 03:09.50 | Johnny_5 | should i be root when i do it? |
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| 03:09.50 | bjohnson | bintut: not onboard nic .. pcmcia card nic |
| 03:09.50 | MegaByte | err sorry |
| 03:09.50 | mccune | bjohnson: I'd try to boot from a smal USB stick, with a debian kernel that has PCMCIA support. This should get you a network connection, and from there you could follow the netinstall procedure. This will be long, involved, and complex though, so I recommend just pulling the hard disk out and getting a IDE converter to plug into another machine. |
| 03:09.51 | bintut | MegaByte: then, he/she needs to install gnome |
| 03:10.10 | bjohnson | mccune: I have a IDE converter. how do I go about installing debian on it that way? |
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| 03:10.25 | onetinsoldier | Johnny_5: at least when doing the make install |
| 03:10.34 | mccune | bjohnson: check out the debootstrap section of the debian installation docs. |
| 03:10.37 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 03:10.43 | dli | bintut, anything to do with gnome when running drxx ? |
| 03:10.54 | bjohnson | debootstrap? ok .. I'll go check it out |
| 03:11.45 | mccune | bjohnson: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en |
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| 03:12.41 | mccune | bjohnson: If you don't have a machine with linux on it, a Live CD would be helpful here. Knoppix should have debootstrap included in it. |
| 03:12.45 | Johnny_5 | do i need to log out then back in for it to work? |
| 03:13.40 | Johnny_5 | brb |
| 03:13.42 | bjohnson | mccune: I have a bunch thanks .. just never installed without floppy or CD before |
| 03:14.02 | mccune | bjohnson: Yeah, that gets tricky... |
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| 03:14.27 | mccune | bjohnson: Thankfully, almost all new computers are able to boot from the network, so media isn't required anymore. |
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| 03:14.49 | MegaByte | 3.1r2 Sarge does use Xorg, doesn't it? |
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| 03:15.15 | mccune | MegaByte: I assume, XFree86 isn't an acceptable license afaik |
| 03:15.57 | mccune | anime time... |
| 03:15.58 | onetinsoldier | !info xserver-xorg sarge |
| 03:16.12 | Aconitic | does anyone have azureus working for debian? |
| 03:16.15 | onetinsoldier | !info xserver-xfree86 sarge |
| 03:16.21 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 5608 kB, Installed size: 15620 kB |
| 03:16.22 | onetinsoldier | hmmf |
| 03:16.38 | mccune | Aconitic: You'll need to get java up and running for azureus to work |
| 03:16.46 | MegaByte | onetinsoldier: wtf? xfree86 is actually there? |
| 03:17.04 | onetinsoldier | yeah... apparently it still xfree86 for sarge |
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| 03:17.12 | Aconitic | has anyone put a java package on apt? |
| 03:17.18 | Aconitic | Or do i have to configure it myself |
| 03:18.23 | mccune | Aconitic: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ |
| 03:18.38 | mccune | Aconitic: Please RTFM before asking here too. =) |
| 03:18.43 | secher | Wow, I feel like I was recognized by a rock star. Peter Salus responded positively to a comment I made on groklaw.. |
| 03:18.51 | Johnny_5 | back |
| 03:19.58 | onetinsoldier | Johnny_5: wb. you didn't need to log out and then back in. but oh well, hehe |
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| 03:20.12 | bintut | gtg for now.. |
| 03:20.15 | bintut | thanks guys.. :) |
| 03:20.21 | Johnny_5 | ok heh |
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| 03:20.36 | Johnny_5 | better safe than sorry i guess |
| 03:20.49 | onetinsoldier | true enough |
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| 03:22.09 | predius_ | hey guys, I get http://pastebin.ca/58766 when I try to build the nvidia-glx-legacy package |
| 03:22.15 | Johnny_5 | hmm.... |
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| 03:22.25 | Johnny_5 | still getting the same error |
| 03:22.36 | onetinsoldier | Johnny_5: what's the error? |
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| 03:23.31 | Johnny_5 | invalid encoder executeable check your encoder config |
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| 03:23.54 | onetinsoldier | predius: i took a look. i have no idea. maybe someone else will though |
| 03:23.56 | Supaplex | time for a new decoder ring Johnny_5. ;) |
| 03:23.57 | OhMyGod | Who can tell me ,why do I telnet my debin is very slowly? I'm using putty.My debain said:Using keyboard-interactive authentication. |
| 03:24.07 | Johnny_5 | heh |
| 03:24.14 | Johnny_5 | hey whatever worck |
| 03:24.22 | Johnny_5 | *works |
| 03:25.54 | predius_ | OhMyGod: is it a slow machine? |
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| 03:25.57 | xomhau | hi all |
| 03:26.43 | onetinsoldier | hehe |
| 03:26.55 | xomhau | i want to read log when boot computer? where is it? |
| 03:27.31 | onetinsoldier | xomhau: in /var/log |
| 03:27.39 | xomhau | onetinsoldier: syslog? |
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| 03:27.51 | onetinsoldier | depends on what log you are wanting to read... perhaps kern.log? |
| 03:28.06 | onetinsoldier | ok.. yeah. syslog is in there too |
| 03:28.15 | Hatter | I am trying to put some files on a debian sarge system that won't boot. I have booted with knoppix, mounted the filesystem that won't boot, scp'd to knoppix, it puts me in /unionfs which does not have the /mnt/sda2 that i need. any ideas ? |
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| 03:28.46 | xomhau | onetinsoldier: thank u |
| 03:29.06 | onetinsoldier | yw. :) |
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| 03:29.19 | NaufraGo | have anybody tried kino? |
| 03:29.50 | Hatter | all the files appear in / so it seems knoppix put's me in a chroot ? does this sound correct ? |
| 03:29.51 | OhMyGod | predius_:no,It's a new machine. |
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| 03:30.36 | OhMyGod | predius_: but login SSH is slow. |
| 03:31.32 | Stevie-O | It might be trying to dns-lookup the connecting host |
| 03:31.36 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: how is it after login? |
| 03:31.52 | Hatter | sorry. it's ok now. i found i could go up a hierarchy and get to the real / |
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| 03:32.49 | Johnny_5 | OhMyGod: try ssh. its more secure anyway |
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| 03:33.11 | OhMyGod | onetinsoldier: the "login as:" is very quickly,when I key in my name,I have to wait for a long time. |
| 03:33.11 | redphoenix1 | hello |
| 03:33.12 | Johnny_5 | you should be able to use ssh with putty |
| 03:33.22 | redphoenix1 | i installed debian with deboostrap |
| 03:33.41 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: i mean, after you get logged in... how is the response time? |
| 03:33.51 | redphoenix1 | but when i try to boot it the kernel tries to find things in /root and no / |
| 03:33.59 | redphoenix1 | is there anything i can do to fix this? |
| 03:34.01 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: is everything ok.normal after you get logged in? |
| 03:34.13 | Johnny_5 | hmm....grip still not wanting to work |
| 03:34.47 | Johnny_5 | i'm using lame-3.97 |
| 03:34.48 | rockstar_ | Can anyone tell me why my network smb mount in fstab will mount as root, but says Operation Not Permitted for user? |
| 03:35.28 | NaufraGo | have anybody tried kino (video editor)? |
| 03:35.58 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : You message said "Oh my god, is everything ok?" |
| 03:36.05 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 03:36.20 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod is the nick of a fellow on here... hehe |
| 03:36.22 | rockstar_ | NaufraGo : I use it, I like it. I've been looking for a new video player. Have a bunch of packages in my inbox, haven't install yet though. |
| 03:36.27 | OhMyGod | onetinsoldier: Yes ,It's is normal. |
| 03:36.38 | rockstar_ | onetinsoldier : Yeah, I know. |
| 03:36.58 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: it's probably a firewall issue. firewalls slow down the 'ident' port... port 113 |
| 03:37.07 | benson | so email administration can bypass all "account full" quotas and send any kind of message they like? |
| 03:37.14 | rockstar_ | Anyone in here experienced with Samba? |
| 03:37.17 | benson | or is it less superficial than that? |
| 03:37.26 | benson | i don't know how it works. |
| 03:37.54 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: you can configure the firewall so that it recognizes the other computer as being freindly to speed up the login |
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| 03:38.06 | jhenn | hi. does debian autodetect hardware? |
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| 03:38.15 | onetinsoldier | *friendly |
| 03:38.17 | azeem | jhenn: yes |
| 03:38.34 | jhenn | azeem: oh cool last i used was woody and it didn't detect everything |
| 03:38.40 | Hatter | onetinsoldier: the firewall ? how do you mean ? |
| 03:38.47 | katie_ | how do you load wireless drivers such as pcnet_cs? |
| 03:38.47 | azeem | jhenn: try sarge then |
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| 03:38.56 | jhenn | azeem: k |
| 03:38.58 | azeem | katie_: they should get loaded automatically |
| 03:39.00 | Hatter | onetinsoldier: do you mean reverse lookups ? |
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| 03:39.28 | OhMyGod | onetinsoldier: Oh. Thank u. |
| 03:39.30 | katie_ | azeem: i think it is loaded doesn't seem to be working... |
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| 03:39.51 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: sure, yw. :-) |
| 03:40.29 | Aconitic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:41.22 | Hatter | onetinsoldier: i have the same issue on a few servers, but they are all identical, none have port 113 open. some of them are quick, some take up to 5 seconds to do the password auth bit |
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| 03:41.40 | onetinsoldier | Hatter: i don't know enough to speak on with precise technical knowledge. hang on... ok? |
| 03:41.41 | azeem | katie_: check dmesg |
| 03:41.50 | Hatter | onetinsoldier: sure |
| 03:42.13 | Stevie-O | Hatter: wait, your servers are doing identd lookups? |
| 03:42.25 | Stevie-O | err wait, I think I'm mixing my people up |
| 03:42.37 | Stevie-O | I'm thinking about the guy with slow ssh logins |
| 03:42.44 | katie_ | azeem: azeem: NE2000 compatible hardware |
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| 03:43.07 | azeem | katie_: I'm going to bed now, sorry |
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| 03:43.11 | azeem | good luck with your issue |
| 03:43.26 | katie_ | azeem: ok thanks |
| 03:43.38 | Aconitic | ? |
| 03:43.52 | katie_ | azeem: what do i check for next? |
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| 03:44.24 | Hatter | stevie-o: no, i don't even know what identd lookups are. but I do have slow ssh authentication on about 3 servers, it takes 5-8 seconds to authenticate but I after it does speed is greart |
| 03:44.45 | Hatter | but other servers get authenticated very quickly |
| 03:44.53 | Johnny_5 | well if i compiled it right then what else could be the problem? |
| 03:45.04 | mccune | Hatter: Those servers are probably trying to lookup reverse DNS |
| 03:45.13 | Aconitic | what is the name of x11 on apt? |
| 03:45.28 | Hatter | mccune: that's what i was thinking, so i haven |
| 03:45.32 | Hatter | worried about it |
| 03:45.34 | Aconitic | after a new install what do i need to run xfce4? |
| 03:45.34 | Stevie-O | Hatter: That sounds like a dns lookup. Nothing other than IRC servers (and lame smtp servers) check ident these days |
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| 03:46.30 | Hatter | stevie-O: I thought if identd was necessary i would know about it. I was wondering about onetinsoldiers answer regarding port 113. |
| 03:46.39 | Stevie-O | 113 is the identd port |
| 03:46.52 | Hatter | which has no relation to ssh |
| 03:46.59 | Stevie-O | not directly, no. |
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| 03:47.13 | Stevie-O | identd doesn't directly relate to anything |
| 03:47.14 | onetinsoldier | Hatter: i'll let mccune try and help you. i just know the firewall stealthing the ident port can slow things down. it does for me when my linux firewall is actaive and i log into irc. if it's not active then login is immediate! i don't even know if ssh uses port 113 or not |
| 03:47.25 | Stevie-O | onetinsoldier: It slows things down on IRC connections |
| 03:47.39 | Stevie-O | onetinsoldier: SSH connections are not the same as IRC connections, in any way shape or form |
| 03:47.43 | mccune | Sorry Hatter |
| 03:47.56 | onetinsoldier | Stevie-O: roger... good info to know. thanks |
| 03:47.58 | Hatter | mccune: no worries, sleep is good |
| 03:47.59 | Stevie-O | you guys don't seem to know what identd is |
| 03:48.20 | Stevie-O | identd is a service: if a machine connects to you, you connect to its identd service, and it tells you what username made that connection |
| 03:48.52 | Hatter | stevie-o: and it's pretty much redundant now isn't it |
| 03:49.03 | Stevie-O | redundant? no |
| 03:49.06 | Stevie-O | it's just worthless |
| 03:49.13 | onetinsoldier | lol |
| 03:49.16 | Hatter | stevie-O: ok, that's what i thought |
| 03:49.18 | Stevie-O | because of the proliferation of NAT and Windows machines |
| 03:50.48 | mccune | Actually, ident is worthless because everyone just lies. |
| 03:50.59 | mccune | I install nullidentd on my firewalls. |
| 03:51.08 | iter | yep that's the real thing w/ident |
| 03:51.14 | Hatter | I have never had port 113 open |
| 03:51.17 | redphoenix1 | ok i installed debian with deboostrap and the kernel when i was chrooted in |
| 03:51.18 | iter | can't trust the machine connecting to you |
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| 03:51.21 | redphoenix1 | when i tried to boot |
| 03:51.30 | redphoenix1 | it tries to load stuff in /root |
| 03:51.31 | redphoenix1 | and not / |
| 03:51.36 | redphoenix1 | is there anything i can do to fix this |
| 03:53.04 | onetinsoldier | redphoenix1: i am very rusty. but there are parameters you can pass to the kernel at boot time... such as root=/root ..on the command line, before you press enter |
| 03:53.17 | MariusX | hello ppl. I have just upgraded my distro of debian from sarge to etch and now it no longer starts gnome. it tells me that it is not configured correctly. when I look at the error it tells me that the X server is not exicutable |
| 03:53.32 | onetinsoldier | i forget the exact parameters though... root=/root may be incorrect |
| 03:53.48 | redphoenix1 | with lilo? |
| 03:53.53 | onetinsoldier | yes |
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| 03:54.23 | Stevie-O | bleh, wtf |
| 03:54.32 | Tdo2005 | Ae, |
| 03:54.34 | onetinsoldier | anyone here more familar with passing kernel params at boot? |
| 03:54.35 | redphoenix1 | can i do it in the lilo config file? |
| 03:54.35 | mccune | onetinsoldier: root=/root is meaningless |
| 03:54.40 | Tdo2005 | Alguem aqui fala português? |
| 03:54.48 | mccune | root should point to a device such as /dev/hda1 |
| 03:55.05 | iter | damn it's so close to espanol |
| 03:55.20 | mccune | ok, bedtime for real |
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| 03:55.34 | onetinsoldier | mccune: well, i am looking for someone much more familiar with it than me. i used to be, but am way to rusty now |
| 03:55.35 | iter | I've been to portugal, does that count? |
| 03:55.47 | redphoenix1 | it is point to /dev/sda4 |
| 03:55.54 | redphoenix1 | it is pointing to* |
| 03:55.57 | MariusX | how can I fix the packages that need the dependinces fixed? |
| 03:56.07 | redphoenix1 | but it tries to load /root and not / |
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| 03:56.32 | wimp | is there any sub $100 device that I can install linux on; have it have 2 nic's; and have it serve as a firewall? |
| 03:56.40 | wimp | (perferably, I'd like it to be silent too) |
| 03:56.43 | wimp | having minimal ram is totally fine |
| 03:56.50 | wimp | no HD is chill too |
| 03:56.52 | Stevie-O | Meh! vncserver is broke |
| 03:56.53 | wimp | willing to boot from CD/usb |
| 03:57.00 | Stevie-O | DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed |
| 03:57.27 | wireddd | wimp, what is wrong with using one of those linksys routers? |
| 03:57.52 | wireddd | the wrt54g or what ever |
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| 03:58.14 | Hatter | stevie-O: i use vncserver on quite a few servers |
| 03:58.21 | redphoenix1 | so can some one help me? |
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| 03:59.01 | wimp | wireddd, so I'm running a webserver; and in case the webserver gets hacked, I don't want the machine to be able to send out arbitrary traffic |
| 03:59.06 | wimp | so I want to be able to configure the firewlal to say: |
| 03:59.17 | wimp | "allow output only if it's established/related connection and to port >= 1024" |
| 03:59.58 | wimp | does it support iptables? |
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| 04:00.58 | MariusX | I cannot even remove gnome or X11 with apt-get remove to be able to install a fresh version. anyone able to help me with this? |
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| 04:02.12 | blue_shadow6 | gkrellm |
| 04:03.19 | blue_shadow6 | alguien me puede decir cual es comando esacto para pegar un archivo en gkrellm |
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| 04:04.13 | Zerial | blue_shadow6, pegar un archivo en gkrellm ? |
| 04:04.43 | onetinsoldier | redphoenix1: you still here? |
| 04:04.50 | redphoenix1 | yea |
| 04:05.00 | penrod | greetings, I have a debian box with a load average of 96, I can't see anything in "top" to indicate which process/es are have caused this, is there another method ? |
| 04:05.07 | zewl | Hi, I just installed a fresh copy of the newest etch release for an amd64 machine and when I tried to run 'apt-get update' I get the following error... Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
| 04:05.09 | onetinsoldier | what method did you use to install linux? |
| 04:05.17 | redphoenix1 | deboostrap |
| 04:05.49 | zewl | the base install from an iso |
| 04:05.57 | zewl | if you are asking me |
| 04:06.08 | onetinsoldier | redphoenix1: i guess i'mnot familiar with that. i just used net install floppies myself |
| 04:06.31 | redphoenix1 | i cant really use a normal install as it is an intel mac mini |
| 04:06.46 | onetinsoldier | oh.. i see |
| 04:06.56 | redphoenix1 | so i have to use deboostrap |
| 04:07.20 | MariusX | How can I fix the broken packages? I have tried apt-get -f install |
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| 04:07.49 | benson | so if one keeps receiving mail infected with Email-Worm.Win32.Nyxem.e, spoofed to a friend's address |
| 04:07.55 | onetinsoldier | debootstrap does take you through a procedure to set up your linux partitions doesn't it? |
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| 04:08.02 | redphoenix1 | no |
| 04:08.03 | benson | how to stop receiving such mail without blocking the friend? |
| 04:08.08 | redphoenix1 | i have to do everything myself |
| 04:08.10 | onetinsoldier | oh! interesting |
| 04:08.20 | redphoenix1 | debootstrap just installs the base files |
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| 04:08.56 | benson | this mail is very space consuming for a limited webmail account |
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| 04:09.04 | onetinsoldier | well... i'm still not sure what you mean. do you go through any kind of procedure to set up linux partitions? |
| 04:09.38 | onetinsoldier | or do you just not ever do anything at all to set up linux partitions in any way shape or form? |
| 04:09.40 | redphoenix1 | well i do that from a live cd |
| 04:09.59 | redphoenix1 | you have to setup partitions from a live cd |
| 04:10.13 | redphoenix1 | and debootstrap to the root partition |
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| 04:10.54 | redphoenix1 | then i chroot into the new install |
| 04:10.59 | redphoenix1 | and install anything ells i want before boot |
| 04:11.03 | MrPrimate | I am trying to use vfat (fat32) for a shared filesystem between windows and linux, but it's extremely slow -- does anyone have a recommendation for something better ? |
| 04:11.05 | redphoenix1 | and do the configs by hand |
| 04:11.14 | panthera | MrPrimate: ext3 |
| 04:11.22 | panthera | MrPrimate: and use the ifs driver for windows |
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| 04:11.42 | MrPrimate | panthera, do you know why vfat is so slow ? |
| 04:11.52 | panthera | MrPrimate: vfat is a slow fs. |
| 04:12.21 | onetinsoldier | redphoenix1: so when you set up the root partition you did set it up as / ...correct? |
| 04:12.25 | OhMyGod | onetinsoldier: How to setup my iptables? I have saw the man,keyed in " iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/16" |
| 04:12.26 | redphoenix1 | yes |
| 04:12.27 | panthera | MrPrimate: http://www.fs-driver.org/ |
| 04:12.44 | redphoenix1 | but that is in fstab |
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| 04:13.06 | aioshfd | I have a really old laptop with 8 megs of ram i'm installing debian on |
| 04:13.10 | redphoenix1 | and fstab dont matter at boot if it cant boot everything ells |
| 04:13.10 | onetinsoldier | redphoenix1: well i really have no idea how to solve your problem. perhaps try the channel #debian-boot |
| 04:13.15 | redphoenix1 | ok |
| 04:13.24 | onetinsoldier | good luck! |
| 04:13.30 | MrPrimate | panthera, thanks, I'll check it out |
| 04:13.37 | aioshfd | is there a way to get apt to reduce its memory requirements for the dependency tree |
| 04:13.39 | redphoenix1 | thank you |
| 04:13.47 | aioshfd | can i have that dependency tree generated once and reused? |
| 04:13.49 | onetinsoldier | you're welcome.. good luck |
| 04:14.12 | valdyn | aioshfd: no |
| 04:14.14 | MariusX | How can I fix the broken packages? I have tried apt-get -f install |
| 04:14.19 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: i just use something simple. a gui tool to setup and activate the firewall |
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| 04:14.21 | aioshfd | valdyn: why not? |
| 04:14.44 | onetinsoldier | OhMyGod: it's called firestarter |
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| 04:15.06 | benson | i found the perfect option |
| 04:15.24 | benson | When I receive unencrypted email from someone who is not on my Allow List: |
| 04:15.38 | benson | Delete it permanently |
| 04:15.40 | GeorgeAScot1 | hey, just got installed... didn't get my usb mouse installed though... any pointers? |
| 04:15.50 | mosty | i'm trying to figure out how to use initramfs-tools, from the local-bottom script, is the real root fs already mounted on / or somewhere else? |
| 04:15.56 | aioshfd | hell, the dependency tree is the slowest part of apt-get on my 2.6 ghz machine |
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| 04:17.14 | GeorgeAScot1 | i checked xf86 and it's the same as it was on xorg.. |
| 04:17.20 | OhMyGod | onetinsoldier: OK. |
| 04:17.35 | GeorgeAScot1 | but i only did that because it didn't work with the default either |
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| 04:19.33 | mosty | anyone know where i can find help with initramfs-tools? |
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| 04:20.27 | MariusX | can someone help me get gnome going again please |
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| 04:21.37 | cs-cam | anyone have an intel motherboard? |
| 04:21.55 | onetinsoldier | yes.. i do |
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| 04:22.46 | cs-cam | onetinsoldier: how do you get to the bios? i just built a cheap box with a intel mobo and the splash comes up hiding the POST screen and del, F1, esc, nothing takes me to the bios :( |
| 04:22.49 | Vasistha | mariusx: are you at a command line? |
| 04:23.00 | MariusX | yeah |
| 04:23.19 | cs-cam | i can boot live CDs so the sys config is okay and the LEDs on the keyboard flash during POST so i assume thats working fine also |
| 04:23.30 | onetinsoldier | cs-cam: wow... that sux. i use the del key. try F10 and F12 keys... i dunno |
| 04:23.52 | cs-cam | onetinesoldier: okay thanks i'll have a shot |
| 04:24.05 | MariusX | when I do apt-get -f install it tells me that Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb (--unpack) |
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| 04:27.41 | Vasistha | mariusx: hmmm. that's strange that you should be specifying -f, are you aware of any package conflicts? Are you running sarge, etch, sid? |
| 04:27.46 | Daveman | bah! |
| 04:28.09 | Vasistha | humbug |
| 04:28.11 | valdyn | MariusX: the real error is right in front of you below the part you pasted, why dont you tell us about it |
| 04:28.20 | MariusX | yeah it tells me there are broken packages. I upgraded my sarge upto etch |
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| 04:28.51 | valdyn | MariusX: err, or above |
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| 04:29.20 | MariusX | sorry I dont know what that means? |
| 04:29.41 | valdyn | MariusX: paste the real error, not the summary given by dpkg |
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| 04:33.25 | tuv | why can't i see Samsung in the list of Makes of printers when adding a printer through cups? there are ppds for samsung printers installed! |
| 04:34.03 | MariusX | when I boot into debian it tries to load gnome. it says "I cannot Start the X server... diagnose problem" when I choose yes it says "/etc/X11/X is not executable" |
| 04:34.28 | valdyn | MariusX: that isnt dpkg |
| 04:34.37 | valdyn | MariusX: run apt-get -f install again and paste the output |
| 04:34.49 | valdyn | !tell MariusX -about dpkg |
| 04:34.59 | valdyn | MariusX: ops |
| 04:35.04 | valdyn | !tell MariusX -about paste |
| 04:35.13 | valdyn | that one you ought to read |
| 04:35.20 | benson | i have to go for now. |
| 04:35.24 | MariusX | I cannot paste as it is on my other laptop |
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| 04:35.34 | benson | nice talking with you folks. |
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| 04:35.50 | benson | good night. |
| 04:35.56 | a1fa|64 | everytime i run apt-get update it freezes up.. i believe its that dns issue |
| 04:35.59 | valdyn | MariusX: maybe you can read it and tell us about it |
| 04:36.08 | a1fa|64 | anybody know what I am talking about |
| 04:36.31 | a1fa|64 | http.us.debian.org is my apt source |
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| 04:37.14 | MariusX | ok. first it says that there are 214 upgraded, 72 newly installed, 19 to remove, 434 not upgraded |
| 04:37.17 | onetinsoldier | a1fa|64: your welcone to try my source. seems like i had a problem with that one myself. |
| 04:37.23 | onetinsoldier | *welcome |
| 04:37.48 | siimo | has something changed recently in debian sid's freetype2/xft packages? firefox official build off mozilla.org looks blurry as if its not using bytecode interpreter... |
| 04:38.01 | ski__ | hm, i've got 'find' (running as 'nobody'), eating cpu and lookinh through file system, suddenly .. could this be an attack ? |
| 04:38.04 | ski__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.26 | MariusX | it the says about trying to unpack the x11-common file and trying to overright /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 04:38.46 | ski__ | or is it some daemon or something that's per default set to do something ? cron ? (i don't know much about cron or at) |
| 04:39.05 | valdyn | MariusX: that's the key part, more info should follow as to what exactly is failing |
| 04:39.15 | MariusX | then it says about dpkg subprocess paste was killed by signal |
| 04:39.25 | MariusX | the over write part? |
| 04:39.45 | valdyn | MariusX: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_*deb |
| 04:40.11 | valdyn | MariusX: that is, assuming you meant 'overwrite' |
| 04:40.23 | MariusX | lol yeah |
| 04:41.07 | valdyn | MariusX: after that run: 'apt-get upgrade' |
| 04:41.17 | MariusX | do I use the wild card or do I type the full name? |
| 04:41.26 | valdyn | MariusX: i dont care |
| 04:41.31 | siimo | hmmz |
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| 04:42.16 | MariusX | it tells me cannot access archive: No such file or directory |
| 04:42.39 | valdyn | MariusX: that is your typo |
| 04:43.14 | MariusX | True. missed the /apt/ |
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| 04:45.00 | sakoda | holas |
| 04:45.09 | MariusX | ok. done that. with apt-get upgrade it now tells me a list of packages that depends ... but is not installed |
| 04:45.23 | MariusX | and to try -f |
| 04:45.31 | valdyn | MariusX: do it |
| 04:45.40 | MariusX | do I try apt-get -f upgrade ? |
| 04:45.51 | sakoda | alguien habla español? |
| 04:46.01 | valdyn | !es |
| 04:46.01 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 04:46.25 | sakoda | ok |
| 04:46.27 | sakoda | thks |
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| 04:47.36 | MariusX | lol 16 mins work of packages. NZ Sucks for internet speed. |
| 04:47.39 | MariusX | :( |
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| 04:48.04 | MariusX | oops worth. |
| 04:49.49 | a1fa|64 | thank you god for build-essential |
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| 04:49.59 | MariusX | build-essential |
| 04:49.59 | MariusX | * ftsac has left #debian |
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| 04:51.55 | a1fa|64 | ? |
| 04:52.37 | MariusX | lol copied to go look at what it is and accedently copied two lines. |
| 04:52.46 | kevix | tarzeau: Hi oh-lover-of-gnustep, when irc migrates, who will packup our bot,dpkg, and take it to the new location? |
| 04:53.26 | a1fa|64 | MariusX: its just essential C/C++ libraries for compiling from source |
| 04:53.50 | MariusX | Just found that out on the site. a little (long way) over my head. lol |
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| 04:55.16 | MariusX | valdyn: I did not mean to paste into the channel |
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| 04:58.15 | a1fa|64 | anyway to assing a different mac address for each interface via interfaces in /etc/networking |
| 04:58.33 | mosty | yes, see man interfaces |
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| 04:59.18 | a1fa|64 | is it going to use pre-up? or native support? |
| 04:59.41 | mosty | it's not a pre-up thing |
| 05:00.24 | a1fa|64 | hwaddress ether |
| 05:00.34 | a1fa|64 | the problem is all 3 of my interfaces have a same mac address |
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| 05:00.43 | a1fa|64 | something got messed up with sun's nvram |
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| 05:02.04 | mosty | sure it's three seperate nic's and not a switch? |
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| 05:02.15 | snickel1650 | hi, I did a dual installation of windows and debian today and I'm pretty happy with the way it's been set up. Is there a program out there that can back everything up as images and then I can use them if I ever want another clean install (without having to configure everything again)? |
| 05:02.15 | a1fa|64 | hhaha |
| 05:02.17 | kurumin | mailto:#animetracker@irc.irchighway.net |
| 05:02.18 | a1fa|64 | i put them in my self |
| 05:02.24 | snickel1650 | will norton ghost work well with linux? |
| 05:02.38 | a1fa|64 | Reconfiguring network interfaces.../etc/network/interfaces:27: duplicate interface |
| 05:02.40 | a1fa|64 | wiw |
| 05:02.54 | a1fa|64 | eeek |
| 05:02.58 | kurumin | im brazilian |
| 05:03.17 | kurumin | i dont now english |
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| 05:03.28 | ss | hey |
| 05:03.36 | a1fa|64 | kurumin: #debian.pt |
| 05:03.38 | Kontagious | anyone there? |
| 05:03.41 | a1fa|64 | no |
| 05:03.43 | panthera | snickel1650: unless you use ext{2,3}, yes. |
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| 05:03.52 | Kontagious | how do i know which version of debian to download? |
| 05:03.57 | kevix | snickel1650: look into mondo/mindi |
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| 05:04.33 | kevix | Kontagious: do you mean stable/testing/unstable or releases of debian? |
| 05:04.49 | Kontagious | kevix: I mean like alpha or i386 etc.. |
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| 05:05.12 | GeorgeAScot1 | ok.. still can't get the mouse to work... |
| 05:05.17 | kevix | Kontagious: what type of cpu's do you have? |
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| 05:05.44 | GeorgeAScot1 | it is showing up in the boot sequence and in dmesg... |
| 05:06.00 | Kontagious | intel pentium 4 blah blah |
| 05:06.02 | GeorgeAScot1 | as well as in the middle of my screen...i just can't move it |
| 05:06.13 | Kontagious | George, i have the same problem in knoppix |
| 05:06.25 | Kontagious | =( |
| 05:06.36 | GeorgeAScot1 | Kontagious> xfree or xorg maybe? |
| 05:06.45 | kevix | Kontagious: you can just install the i386 now and then upgrade the kernel to a more specific one later/ |
| 05:06.52 | quitte | is there any way someone could accidentally remove /etc/pam.d/common-session from his computer and not know how it happened? |
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| 05:07.02 | plasmoduck | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.19 | Kontagious | kevix: I have a wireless mouse but fedora core 4 worked but knoppix does not, any idea if it will work with debian? |
| 05:07.51 | GeorgeAScot1 | i think it has to do with xfree... i had other distros with xorg and it worked just fine |
| 05:07.54 | kevix | Kontagious: those are kernel issues. There should not be a problem. |
| 05:08.32 | kevix | Kontagious: find out what kernel moduels FC4 used and make a note of them. |
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| 05:08.51 | threat | GeorgeAScot1, nice |
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| 05:09.07 | GeorgeAScot1 | nice what? |
| 05:09.09 | mosty | plasmoduck, not easily |
| 05:09.16 | hburchey | My system is missing less and make. Is there some sort of a virtual package that will install all the 'usual' stuff? |
| 05:09.19 | Kontagious | kevix: I'm pretty new to linux so i'll check and just verify with you |
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| 05:09.34 | kevix | GeorgeAScot1: you usually need the kernel drivers for the mouse and then make sure you use the correct device: either /dev/input/mouse or /dev/psaux (usually) |
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| 05:09.51 | mosty | hburchey, build-essential |
| 05:09.53 | GeorgeAScot1 | i've got that man... it shows up in boot and with dmesg |
| 05:09.58 | kevix | Kontagious: to check what kernel modules are used: use 'lsmod' |
| 05:10.00 | GeorgeAScot1 | i've got /dev/input/mice as well |
| 05:10.15 | Kontagious | I'm on windows right now |
| 05:10.46 | kevix | Kontagious: when you have a change just use a live-cd. |
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| 05:11.02 | Kontagious | I didn't update my fedora so it should be the same, i know my mouse is on /dev/psaux |
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| 05:11.34 | kevix | GeorgeAScot1: for kicks you can change /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change /dev/input/input to /dev/psaux |
| 05:12.09 | Kontagious | kevix: are you farmiliar with knoppix? if i wanted get my mouse working on knoppix to try it out to make sure i'm not stuck. how would i do it? |
| 05:12.19 | GeorgeAScot1 | that's the problem kevix. i don't have /etc/X11/xorg |
| 05:12.35 | Kontagious | generic wheelmouse on dev/psaux but it doesn't work |
| 05:12.39 | GeorgeAScot1 | or at least i think that's the problem |
| 05:13.22 | kevix | Kontagious: boot it up. see if it work. do 'lsmod' to see what modules it used for the mouse(psmouse,usbmouse,mousedev) and then check /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see what device it registers. |
| 05:13.52 | Kontagious | how do i access the console without a mouse? |
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| 05:14.21 | kevix | GeorgeAScot1: if you are use xfree86, then its /etc/X11/XFree86-4.conf |
| 05:14.27 | GeorgeAScot1 | alt-f1-f7? |
| 05:14.40 | GeorgeAScot1 | i know where the file is.. i've been in and out of it all evening |
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| 05:14.49 | kevix | Kontagious: using the 'magic' keys: alt-ctrl-f1 |
| 05:15.12 | Kontagious | ok thanks |
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| 05:15.21 | kevix | GeorgeAScot1: Kontagious: debian also has program: apt-get install mdetect |
| 05:15.38 | GeorgeAScot1 | i'll try that one... |
| 05:15.53 | Gary | f7 to get back |
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| 05:16.04 | Kontagious | kevix: I don't know what that means =S |
| 05:16.22 | kevix | Gary: I just 'alt-arrow-right' x-) |
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| 05:16.34 | GeorgeAScot1 | ok... already have mdetect apparently |
| 05:16.44 | Gary | :) |
| 05:16.54 | kevix | Kontagious: type 'apt-cache info mdetect' for info. type 'apt-get install mdetect' to install it. |
| 05:17.13 | Kontagious | kevix: in knoppix right? |
| 05:17.45 | kevix | Kontagious: if you type 'mdetect', does anything happen? |
| 05:18.01 | hburchey | mosty, Ok, build-essentials had 'make', but I'm still missing 'less'. Is there another virtual package that has lots of common stuff? |
| 05:18.05 | Kontagious | kevix: i'm on windows, i will try to get to irc from knoppix |
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| 05:18.29 | GeorgeAScot1 | hrm |
| 05:18.45 | Kontagious | brb |
| 05:18.51 | kevix | hburchey: less is not in any other packages,afaik |
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| 05:19.56 | hburchey | kevix, Is there a way to determine that 'make' is contained in build-essential, short of asking in this channel? |
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| 05:20.37 | bono | Question: weird problem... i cant transfer large files over ssh (through scp) from my buddys place but i can from school... small files are ok though... inspecting with iptraf tells me the connexion doesnt get 'closed'... A few packets are transfered but not all... Any idea? |
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| 05:22.23 | kevix | hburchey: apt-cache info build-essential |
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| 05:23.17 | kevix | bono: why not use 'wget -c URL/file' |
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| 05:23.56 | hburchey | kevix, Doesn't apt-cache imply that it works from a cache? How do I figure out which packages contain make even if I haven't already installed them (ie. they aren't in any cache)? |
| 05:24.52 | kevix | hburchey: you need 'apt-file'. its a bit more complicated and get a database of all the packages. 'apt-cache info apt-file' |
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| 05:26.17 | bono | kevix: id like to solve the problem instead of avoiding it... |
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| 05:28.23 | zooy0rk | has anyone gotten their hands on a nforce5 board yet and tried it in linux? |
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| 05:29.16 | kevix | [bono]: I skimmed at 'man scp'. it has compression options (-C) and limit bandwidth (-l) and other things... |
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| 05:29.54 | grendal_prime | ok anyone anygood with proxy servers im going apeshit crazy here |
| 05:30.17 | grendal_prime | i mean...if this keeps up im gonna wind up on the group W bench. |
| 05:30.18 | lo_tek | zooy0rk: i've put slackware 10 on a sata hard drive attached to a mobo with an nforce5 chipset |
| 05:30.26 | lo_tek | worked fine |
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| 05:31.04 | grendal_prime | ya well dude there is nothing worse than when your mobo dont work.. |
| 05:31.36 | kevix | grendal_prime: did you say 'mobo' or 'mojo' x-) |
| 05:31.49 | MariusX | valdyn: I have done the update and now when I restart the gdm loads but all i get is a black screen. and the HD light flickers once and a while. how do I boot into command line now? |
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| 05:31.58 | zooy0rk | lo_tek, do you know the specific board? |
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| 05:32.36 | grendal_prime | mobo whatever the hell it is..i mean i know what my mobo looks like ...but ummm...ok back to my insaine request...i need to build a godforsaken proxy server for filetransports via jabber clients. |
| 05:32.37 | zooy0rk | also, i am guessing it was socket am2 ? |
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| 05:32.42 | kevix | MariusX: have you tried 'apt-ctrl-f1' ? |
| 05:33.14 | MariusX | I tried alt-control-f1. doesn't do anything |
| 05:33.29 | lo_tek | zooy0rk: a K8N Neo manufacutred by MSI |
| 05:34.01 | anywavedave | I keep getting this message "/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8days old" What can I do about it? I'm a newbie so I need the step by step Thanks. |
| 05:34.16 | MariusX | is there anyway to interupt gdm on boot? |
| 05:34.37 | lo_tek | anywavedave: do "updatedb" as root |
| 05:35.10 | zooy0rk | lo_tek, do you mean k9n neo? the k8n neo is nforce3 |
| 05:35.28 | anywavedave | lo_tek, newb remember, how do I updatedb as root |
| 05:35.38 | lo_tek | oh, then i have an nforce3, it is a k8n neo board |
| 05:36.10 | lo_tek | anywavedave: do you know how to open up a command line terminal? |
| 05:36.12 | zooy0rk | lo_tek, ah ok |
| 05:36.13 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 05:36.14 | dpkg | [tetrinet] multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 05:36.50 | lo_tek | nforce3 shouldn't be all that different than nforce5, nvidia can't keep changing things too radically or people would stop buying their stuff |
| 05:37.06 | anywavedave | lo_tek, i can open the terminal and type su and supply my password, beyond that I don't know how to update the database |
| 05:37.22 | lo_tek | simply type "updatedb" |
| 05:37.29 | lo_tek | it's very very very simple |
| 05:37.36 | Hatter | can someone tell me please which module i should use for an intel 8280 sata chipset ? |
| 05:37.45 | lo_tek | just type those eight letters: updatedb |
| 05:37.45 | hburchey | kevix, Ok, I used apt-file, but it doesn't seem to search the contents of virtual packages. For example, when I did apt-file search less, it didn't show any references to build-essential. How can I do this? |
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| 05:38.20 | MariusX | with out being able to access a console is there any way to bypass gdm and get to a command line? |
| 05:38.37 | kevix | hburchey: ooooh. I forgot about that. well, you need to ask a debian-developer here. |
| 05:38.59 | lo_tek | if you're ctl+alt+fx doesn't work, MariusX, you're in deep doo-doo |
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| 05:39.11 | lo_tek | s/if you're/if your/ |
| 05:39.20 | nicko | dpkg oftc move |
| 05:39.20 | dpkg | irc.debian.org is moving to OFTC on June 4th [see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html ] Operators and Bots will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on either network |
| 05:39.22 | kevix | MariusX: you can open a terminal, 'su' to root, then issue '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' |
| 05:39.27 | anywavedave | lo tek, I typed updatedb and now heard my hard drive ticking away so I guess it's doing it. That was too simple thanks! |
| 05:39.29 | hburchey | Also, apt-file doesn't appear to have rdepend like apt-cache. Is there a tool that searches the indexes like apt-file, but can also do rdepend's like apt-cache? |
| 05:39.40 | zooy0rk | lo_tek, it appears that some of the nforce5 chipsets have the mcp550 northbridge which appears to already work in linux |
| 05:39.56 | lo_tek | kewl, zooy0rk! |
| 05:40.04 | MariusX | I can't get to a terminal. is there someway I can use recovery mode? |
| 05:40.07 | johnsu01 | MariusX: Do you have another box? ssh from it into the problem box :) |
| 05:40.12 | jshriver | IS there an easy way from bash to set my machine up to use network time? |
| 05:40.21 | MariusX | ok. I can try that |
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| 05:41.20 | lastnode | anyone here went to debconf? |
| 05:41.59 | kevix | hburchey: I think it maybe a debian developers tool like grep-dctrl ... |
| 05:42.36 | kevix | lastnode: not sure, did you follow any of it from planet.debian.org? |
| 05:42.45 | nicko | mmm |
| 05:43.03 | nicko | I need to get into programming and become a developer |
| 05:43.04 | nicko | :P |
| 05:43.14 | jshriver | nicko, dont if you plan to do it for a living |
| 05:43.23 | jshriver | but for fun by all means :) it's a fun hobby |
| 05:43.28 | nicko | hehe |
| 05:43.31 | nicko | [nod] |
| 05:43.36 | nicko | a career? heck no |
| 05:44.04 | jshriver | hehe |
| 05:44.07 | Supaplex | bic/nic/ |
| 05:44.13 | jshriver | /dev/null |
| 05:44.14 | nicko | awesome |
| 05:44.29 | MariusX | ok I am in a terminal. what do I need to do to find out what is wrong with my gnome install? |
| 05:45.08 | kevix | MariusX: did you install 'gnome', 'gnome-desktop-environment' or 'gnome-core' ? |
| 05:45.09 | Supaplex | describe what's wrong first. |
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| 05:45.23 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 05:45.37 | MariusX | I am not sure. I think just gnome |
| 05:46.20 | kevix | MariusX: are you using, sarge/stable, testing or unstable/sid |
| 05:46.20 | MariusX | when I try to install core I get a error |
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| 05:46.31 | MariusX | etch / testing |
| 05:46.44 | kevix | !gnome |
| 05:46.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, gnome is a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome>, or the human G-nome |
| 05:46.53 | kevix | !info gnome |
| 05:46.57 | dpkg | gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.12.3 (sid), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
| 05:48.17 | kevix | MariusX: testing known for having issue with gnome. does anyone know the status of gnome in testing? |
| 05:49.06 | anywavedave | lo_tek, that did the trick! Found the file I was looking for and can get back to work! Good Night. http://glassplanks.com/ewe_rock2.JPG |
| 05:49.15 | MariusX | this is the error I get when i try apt-get install gnome-core http://pastebin.com/736545 |
| 05:49.32 | lo_tek | np, anywavedave |
| 05:49.38 | grendal_prime | this is retarded i cant believe ive spent as much time on this as i have |
| 05:50.41 | grendal_prime | i just want to set up my own offsite XMPP proxy so i can run file transfers betweeing my in house jabber clients and my jabber clients on the other side of the firewall |
| 05:51.06 | grendal_prime | it is aparently a rather difficult thing to do.. |
| 05:51.15 | grendal_prime | or so simple im missing something here |
| 05:51.17 | nicko | mmm |
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| 05:51.21 | nicko | I should move back to debian |
| 05:51.45 | nicko | I like fiddling around with things |
| 05:51.52 | MariusX | and tring the environment it tells me http://pastebin.com/736548 |
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| 05:52.33 | MariusX | I am installing gdm again. there are packages that it needs to update |
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| 05:54.31 | kevix | MariusX: this is a common problem for testing. it may be fixed in a week for a few months. |
| 05:54.59 | valdyn | MariusX: gnome may be currently broken on etch |
| 05:55.08 | kevix | MariusX: you should instead use stable or unstable, unless you are more familar with debian testing. |
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| 05:55.22 | valdyn | MariusX: however iirc it works fine to use stable/sarge gnome in etch |
| 05:55.45 | valdyn | MariusX: just to the extent its 'missing' in etch |
| 05:57.14 | valdyn | !quick sid/sarge mix |
| 05:57.15 | dpkg | somebody said quick sid/sarge mix was echo 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, open sources.list, duplicate your sarge lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update, apt-get -t unstable install foo to install foo from sid rather than sarge |
| 05:57.27 | MariusX | oh ok. I was hoping that using etch would be more able to be set up with my laptops hardware. more support for graphic card and such |
| 05:57.35 | Vasistha | how does a broken package get into etch? I thought there were regulations about that? |
| 05:57.37 | valdyn | MariusX: ^^^ / replace sarge with etch in the above and stable with testing |
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| 05:58.15 | valdyn | Vasistha: its not a broken package when it gets into etch but it breaks when a depend gets removed |
| 05:58.22 | tuv | when i try to run printconf i get the following two lines: |
| 05:58.22 | tuv | *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08177f68 *** |
| 05:58.23 | tuv | Unable to read printer database. Please ensure the "foomatic-db" package is installed properly. |
| 05:58.27 | MariusX | oh ok so you mean mix sarge and testing. |
| 05:58.31 | valdyn | tuv: /topic |
| 05:58.39 | valdyn | MariusX: no, mix testing with sid |
| 05:58.49 | valdyn | MariusX: NOT generally, but for gnome its worth a try |
| 05:59.15 | MariusX | which is sid? is that after sarge? I dont really know the code names that well |
| 05:59.21 | valdyn | !sid |
| 05:59.22 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 05:59.33 | Vasistha | valdyn: I think I understand. either because the depend is upgraded, or because the depend is removed from etch for whatever reason? |
| 05:59.54 | tuv | valdyn, hey.. i thought something in /topic would solve my problem |
| 06:00.20 | tuv | valdyn, now i have two questions: what's my problem? and what's yours? |
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| 06:00.55 | valdyn | tuv: i have none, yours is that you use sid and dont read the sid FAQ or the STATUS: of sid |
| 06:01.07 | tuv | valdyn, i don't use sid |
| 06:01.16 | MariusX | I may give that a try, but I might go to the dunedin LUG and see if they can help me if I can't work it out my self |
| 06:01.38 | valdyn | tuv: whatever, your error is a sid bug, its in the /topic |
| 06:02.19 | tuv | valdyn, well.. the first line of my error will appear during using d-i etch beta2.. so it's not sid.. or at least not sid only |
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| 06:02.54 | valdyn | tuv: try sarge's installer |
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| 06:04.12 | tuv | valdyn, i've no problems with the installer.. that message did not affect the installation. i have a printer setup problem and printconf returns those two lines above. i included them both to make sure that it's not either's fault |
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| 06:04.35 | valdyn | tuv: why dont you read what i told you? |
| 06:04.41 | killown | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.08 | valdyn | tuv: foomatic-db isnt part of the installer anyway |
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| 06:06.20 | tuv | valdyn, that's exactly my point.. this seems to be a generic problem.. but i'm not sure if it is responsible for my problem.. so i thought i include it |
| 06:06.46 | valdyn | tuv: i KNOW your error, im NOT pointing you to read something that i havent read myself. |
| 06:07.07 | tuv | valdyn, you just interrupted my reading ;) |
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| 06:08.10 | tuv | valdyn, so what's wrong with foomatic-db or printconf? |
| 06:08.13 | ekkikrist | ps x |
| 06:08.16 | ekkikrist | yes |
| 06:08.20 | ekkikrist | me so stupid |
| 06:08.42 | valdyn | tuv: probably nothing |
| 06:08.46 | Vasistha | killown: have you tried the gimp? |
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| 06:09.15 | tuv | valdyn, so you think the first error might be responsible for the second? |
| 06:09.17 | killown | Vasistha i need an program for machine of plotter |
| 06:09.23 | valdyn | tuv: *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xdeadbeef *** is the only error i see |
| 06:09.28 | valdyn | tuv: yes |
| 06:09.56 | tuv | valdyn, is the workaround an env var? |
| 06:10.05 | valdyn | tuv: yea |
| 06:10.32 | kevix | valdyn: its that GSLICE thingy... |
| 06:10.37 | Vasistha | killown: looking around randomly... check out xara? |
| 06:10.41 | valdyn | tuv: probably, not necessarily, just try |
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| 06:10.52 | killown | xara? ahn |
| 06:11.11 | kevix | killown: apt-cache info xaralx |
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| 06:11.21 | litage | i'm logged into my debian box using WinSCP. however, running ``w'' on the box doesn't show that i'm logged in. why is that? |
| 06:11.23 | killown | ok thanks |
| 06:11.24 | ChrisW | mornin' |
| 06:11.37 | tuv | valdyn, i did: G_SLICE=always-malloc printconf, and got the same messages |
| 06:11.49 | ChrisW | why would "ls -laR" give different output when run fro a cron job than when run from the command line? |
| 06:11.50 | kevix | killown: or check out: inkscape |
| 06:11.57 | ChrisW | sort order and date format are different :-/ |
| 06:12.05 | Azar | litage: are you using CLI only? |
| 06:12.30 | tuv | valdyn, was that a correct usage? |
| 06:12.37 | litage | Azar: winscp doesn't use the cli |
| 06:12.41 | valdyn | tuv: yea |
| 06:12.42 | kevix | ChrisW: sounds like a locale issue ( 'C' vs UTF-8) |
| 06:12.43 | killown | inkscape to print draw in machines plotter? |
| 06:12.53 | Azar | litage: I do not know what winscp is? |
| 06:12.58 | ChrisW | kevix: not sure what you mean... |
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| 06:13.05 | litage | Azar: no worries :) |
| 06:13.06 | ChrisW | there's no funky characters in file names... |
| 06:13.31 | Azar | litage: I installed gkrellm see if you like it |
| 06:13.36 | valdyn | tuv: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=366254 |
| 06:13.41 | valdyn | tuv: bad luck i guess |
| 06:13.47 | ChrisW | is there an option to ls that forces sort? |
| 06:13.53 | lewis | am I right in thinking that there is a difference between: 1. An e-mail with 100 recipients. 2. One hundred e-mails with 1 recipient. [from the e-mail server's point of view] |
| 06:14.12 | kevix | ChrisW: do 'LC_ALL=C ls -l' and 'LC_ALL=en_US.UTF8 ls -l' |
| 06:14.13 | ChrisW | lewis: only for the initial delivery to the mta |
| 06:14.25 | valdyn | tuv: i'd use a different printer setup tool |
| 06:14.28 | valdyn | !cups setup |
| 06:14.29 | dpkg | it has been said that cups setup is Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy!, or or you can try printconf |
| 06:14.44 | lewis | ChrisW: If exim has a limit of 100 recipients, then the 2nd option would work to get around that, correct? |
| 06:15.01 | tuv | valdyn, i was using cups web interface, but only a small list of the available Make's are showing up there |
| 06:15.32 | ChrisW | lewis: exim shouldn't have a limit of 100 recipients ;-) |
| 06:15.41 | ChrisW | but, that said, ti sounds like you're sending spam... |
| 06:15.42 | litage | what's the difference between the "auth" and "authpriv" syslog facilities? |
| 06:15.46 | tuv | valdyn, i need to setup a Samsung printer, and there is not samsung at all in the make list, although its ppds are installed |
| 06:15.48 | kevix | litage: use 'putty' |
| 06:15.54 | ChrisW | kevix: those both give identical output for me... |
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| 06:16.48 | lewis | ChrisW: not spam, mailing list (you probably always hear that) - what is exim's limit? |
| 06:16.56 | kevix | ChrisW: the 'C' gives the month in words and 'UTF8' uses all numbers |
| 06:17.07 | tuv | valdyn, i managed to do install it in ubuntu, but no samsung in debian :( |
| 06:17.11 | ChrisW | lewis: no idea, I use postfix... |
| 06:17.34 | valdyn | !info foomatic-db-gutenprint etch |
| 06:17.38 | dpkg | foomatic-db-gutenprint: (linuxprinting.org printer support - database for Gutenprint printer drivers), section text, is optional. Version: 4.3.99+cvs20060121.dfsg.1-1 (etch), Packaged size: 1278 kB, Installed size: 28904 kB |
| 06:17.38 | ChrisW | kevix: dunno why they both do the same for me then... and it doesn't answer the sort order issue... |
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| 06:18.30 | kevix | ChrisW: LC_COLLATE affects sort order |
| 06:18.32 | xomhau | re hi |
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| 06:18.44 | tempo2k | Hi yah! |
| 06:18.58 | tuv | valdyn, it's installed (foomatic-db-gutenprint).. didn't work |
| 06:19.57 | Vasistha | ChrisW: have you considered piping through sort ? |
| 06:19.59 | xomhau | anyone , is that new kernel linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8? ( i.e for amd64) |
| 06:20.16 | kevix | !info linux-image |
| 06:20.22 | xomhau | if i want install it, then run apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8 ? |
| 06:20.27 | tempo2k | I have a program called webalizer on my server and ever since I installed a mail transfter agent I keep getting email with this... why? |
| 06:20.29 | tempo2k | /etc/cron.daily/webalizer: |
| 06:20.29 | tempo2k | Warning: Truncating oversized referrer field |
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| 06:20.37 | kevix | !dpkg linux-image |
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| 06:20.50 | tempo2k | woops sorry |
| 06:21.00 | Vasistha | tempo2k: gotta be careful about pasting |
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| 06:21.10 | tempo2k | sorry missed #flood |
| 06:21.24 | Vasistha | !paste |
| 06:21.24 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 06:21.29 | dli | xomhau, you can use "apt-cache search" , "apt-file search " , or packages.ubuntu.com to find packages |
| 06:21.36 | superlinux | !cut |
| 06:21.37 | kevix | xomhau: I see 2.6.16 in sid |
| 06:21.39 | Vasistha | err, not #flood but rather use the paste link |
| 06:22.02 | dli | xomhau, sorry, packages.debian.org |
| 06:22.14 | Vasistha | dli: I was starting to wonder... |
| 06:22.28 | xomhau | dli: kevix thank u |
| 06:23.12 | tempo2k | Well as I said, ever since I installed a MTA I keep getting this in my inbox, why? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2631 |
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| 06:23.25 | dli | xomhau, make sure, " update-grub " is run after the new kernel installed |
| 06:23.28 | valdyn | tempo2k: you just are not able to get mail when you have no MTA |
| 06:23.32 | superlinux | any one here knows italian? I heard an italian word, seemed a casual word, sounds like "end-yamoh" or "mond-yamo" what does it mean?? |
| 06:23.39 | valdyn | tempo2k: that error has nothing to do with your MTA beyond that |
| 06:23.47 | xomhau | dli: kevix i don't understand , what package to need install? |
| 06:23.55 | blondie | tempo2k: that looks right |
| 06:23.56 | xomhau | linux-image , kernel-heard ...? |
| 06:24.01 | tempo2k | valdyn yeah I understand that, but what's wrong with webalizer? |
| 06:24.09 | ChrisW | kevix: neither LC_COLLATE nor LC_ALL appear to be set :-/ |
| 06:24.10 | valdyn | tempo2k: no idea |
| 06:24.15 | ChrisW | they are encironment variables, right? |
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| 06:24.19 | blondie | I'd say nothing was *wrong* with it |
| 06:24.26 | kevix | ChrisW: yes. |
| 06:24.30 | blondie | tempo2k: looks like it doesn't like some of the data in your apache log |
| 06:24.45 | blondie | (the http referrer being too long) |
| 06:25.02 | dli | xomhau, I suggest a generic package, like, linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp |
| 06:25.04 | knite | I'd like to make my soft links have the same file dates as the link targets, is that possible? |
| 06:25.05 | tempo2k | blondie I checked the configs and configured it to be "quite", but I still keep getting mails |
| 06:25.27 | kevix | superlinux: maybe 'andiamo' lets go? |
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| 06:25.28 | dli | xomhau, if you don't have smp, it's, linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 |
| 06:25.30 | blondie | I expect it'll still send "error" messages |
| 06:25.50 | tempo2k | This is the subject btw, Cron <root@arnold> test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily |
| 06:25.52 | blondie | maybe run webalizer 2>/dev/null |
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| 06:25.57 | superlinux | kevix, ok.. I donno italian btw but I heard it |
| 06:26.07 | blondie | tempo2k: yes because cron is running it |
| 06:26.15 | xomhau | dli: ok, thank u |
| 06:26.22 | tempo2k | what's "test"? |
| 06:26.22 | knite | i mean, symbolic links |
| 06:26.30 | blondie | man test |
| 06:26.48 | blondie | it checks what the file is I think |
| 06:26.55 | xomhau | debian users alway install kernel from src or from repo? |
| 06:27.07 | ChrisW | kevix: well, here's the env when it runs manually: http://pastebin.com/736564, and here's the env when it runs in cron: http://pastebin.com/736565, can you spot the difference that makes a difference? |
| 06:27.08 | blondie | test -x checks if the file exists and is executable |
| 06:27.16 | knite | xomhau: could use either |
| 06:27.23 | dli | xomhau, up to you |
| 06:27.25 | kevix | xomhau: most folks use the kernel image (linx-image-*) unless they need something else. |
| 06:27.48 | tempo2k | blondie, do you have any idea of how to supress these warnings? |
| 06:27.58 | blondie | tempo2k: yes, read up |
| 06:27.59 | knite | Can I change the date info on a file? |
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| 06:28.14 | Vasistha | knite: man touch |
| 06:28.40 | xomhau | dli: kevix I understand |
| 06:29.08 | dli | xomhau, since you have a k8, you may build your own in minutes :) |
| 06:29.18 | knite | Vasistha: oh cool, I didn't know it could use ANY given time |
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| 06:29.48 | dli | xomhau, oh, it may take one hour or so to configure it before building, if you never did once |
| 06:29.49 | knite | I wonder if it'll work on symbolic links. :) |
| 06:29.58 | kevix | ChrisW: instead of running 'env', run 'locale'. |
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| 06:31.17 | Vasistha | knite: enjoy! |
| 06:31.43 | knite | Vasistha: alas, it doesn't work for a symbolic link! |
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| 06:32.08 | pmallapp | hi all, |
| 06:32.09 | kevix | ChrisW: there is also a difference between 'LC_ALL=en_US ls -l' and LC_ALL=en_GB ls -l' |
| 06:32.13 | xomhau | dli: sometime I compiled kernel from src , but I not sure what i need |
| 06:32.17 | xomhau | :D |
| 06:32.19 | knite | Vasistha: touch ends up affecting the linked target. |
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| 06:32.38 | pmallapp | can i use minicom for localhost:port since i am running a simulation which allows to connect serial console to localhost:port |
| 06:32.45 | ChrisW | kevix: well, at least one of thetwo appears to be using the POSIX locale... |
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| 06:32.57 | dli | xomhau, ask dpkg about kernel-package |
| 06:32.59 | sonasks | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.14 | xomhau | !dpkg about kernel-package |
| 06:33.17 | Vasistha | knite: try it with --no-dereference ? |
| 06:33.19 | xomhau | :D |
| 06:33.20 | pmallapp | sonasks, dvd+rw-tools |
| 06:33.26 | xomhau | !dpkg kernel-package |
| 06:33.26 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz (use zless or lynx), or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 06:33.28 | sid | pmallapp: /join #cisco and they will probably be able to answer you quest better then people in here. |
| 06:33.31 | xomhau | ohhh |
| 06:33.39 | pmallapp | sid, thanks |
| 06:33.54 | knite | Vasistha: nope.. |
| 06:34.14 | Vasistha | knite: -h sometimes doubles for --no-dereference |
| 06:34.21 | apt-abhi | My Debian system is not playing any audio & video files ; the player is disappearing after i open it ! , wot was the problem ? |
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| 06:35.48 | Vasistha | apt-abhi: it would be helpful if you were to say what media player you are using |
| 06:37.01 | apt-abhi | iam using totem |
| 06:37.10 | mosty | i'm having trouble trying to get my kernel (2.6.16) to use an initramfs i've created. in lilo.conf i have initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.16 but when i rerun lilo and reboot, the initramfs isn't used. what could be wrong? |
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| 06:37.22 | Vasistha | knite: you could do a little one-liner script to read the link, remove it, and recreate it. That should reset the time to "now" |
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| 06:37.28 | dli | apt-abhi, try, xine , xmms , vlc , audacious :) |
| 06:37.44 | Vasistha | apt-abhi: or mplayer |
| 06:38.15 | knite | Vasistha: I'd like to reset the time to the same as the target of the link. |
| 06:38.41 | xomhau | apt-abhi: mplayer too |
| 06:38.43 | siimo | whats with the new freetype 2.2.1 .. and mozilla |
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| 06:38.46 | ChrisW | kevix: thanks for your help!all sorted now :-) |
| 06:38.50 | knite | Vasistha: I don't think a symbolic link counts as an inode? otherwise I could try writing a program to use utime() to change it... |
| 06:38.51 | Vasistha | knite: hmmm, what an interesting and appropriate proposition! |
| 06:38.52 | xomhau | i always using maplyer :D |
| 06:39.00 | dsR|cplx | how do I give read/write/modify access to everyone in every folder/file |
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| 06:39.18 | mosty | dsR|cplx, don't do that |
| 06:39.22 | dsR|cplx | no |
| 06:39.22 | Vasistha | knite: I think symlinks do use an inode. How else would they exist in the FS? Everything is an inode... |
| 06:39.22 | dsR|cplx | I mean |
| 06:39.26 | dli | dsR|cplx, sounds like you miss windows |
| 06:39.29 | dsR|cplx | mosty: in a directory; |
| 06:39.39 | dsR|cplx | didnt say it right.. sorry guys |
| 06:39.44 | dsR|cplx | I meant in a certain dir |
| 06:39.47 | Vasistha | dsR|cplx: with a -R flag for recursive, must be capital |
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| 06:39.56 | dsR|cplx | chmod 777 -R /dir |
| 06:39.56 | dsR|cplx | ye? |
| 06:40.19 | Vasistha | dsR|cplx: well, better to do chmod a+rw -R dir |
| 06:40.31 | Vasistha | dsR|cplx: ... because you probably don't want to make all files executable |
| 06:40.37 | dsR|cplx | I do |
| 06:40.45 | dsR|cplx | I want everything readable/writable/executable |
| 06:40.46 | dsR|cplx | sorry |
| 06:40.46 | dsR|cplx | . |
| 06:41.02 | dsR|cplx | chmod rwx -R dir |
| 06:41.03 | dsR|cplx | ? |
| 06:41.10 | Vasistha | !enter |
| 06:41.10 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 06:41.26 | knite | dsR|cplx: 777 will do it... |
| 06:41.30 | dsR|cplx | sorry Vasistha.. |
| 06:41.42 | Vasistha | dsR|cplx: yeah, you can do 777, it will work. I would usually do something more like this: |
| 06:41.48 | dli | dsR|cplx, maybe, 1777 :) |
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| 06:43.03 | Vasistha | find -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod a+rwx ; find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod a+rw ; # and that won't make regular files executable, only chmod them when you need to execute them |
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| 06:44.07 | superlinux | hi all |
| 06:44.14 | patofeo | hi. |
| 06:44.19 | patofeo | all are sleeping? |
| 06:44.27 | superlinux | what should be the best MTU for ppp? |
| 06:44.39 | dsR|cplx | thanks guys |
| 06:44.39 | mhall | !nickometer dsR|cplx |
| 06:44.41 | dpkg | 'dsR|cplx' is 15.000% lame, mhall |
| 06:44.56 | patofeo | !nickometer patofeo |
| 06:44.57 | Vasistha | hmmm, dpkg doesn't think it's very lame at all |
| 06:44.57 | dpkg | 'patofeo' is 0.000% lame, patofeo |
| 06:45.00 | dsR|cplx | mhall: i conected from another irc network.. sorry didnt mean tot use this nick |
| 06:45.01 | patofeo | lol |
| 06:45.05 | dsR|cplx | !nickometer mhall |
| 06:45.06 | Vasistha | !lol |
| 06:45.06 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 06:45.07 | dpkg | 'mhall' is 0.000% lame, dsr|cplx |
| 06:45.11 | dsR|cplx | pffft |
| 06:45.13 | dsR|cplx | 100% |
| 06:45.19 | Vasistha | !nickometer _________________________ |
| 06:45.20 | dpkg | '_________________________' is 99.9958% lame, vasistha |
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| 06:45.36 | patofeo | Vasistha: game over. |
| 06:45.38 | patofeo | heh |
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| 06:45.58 | Vasistha | patofeo: well if you omit the 'o' and just make nickmeter than it says 100% lame no matter what nick you give it |
| 06:46.17 | Vasistha | s/make/say/ |
| 06:46.23 | patofeo | :) |
| 06:46.48 | mhall | Vasistha: game over. you lose. insert coin to continue. |
| 06:46.50 | Vasistha | superlinux: sorry not to be able to advise, I really don't know what mtu would be best |
| 06:47.04 | tuv | valdyn, i looked back at the ubuntu system that installed the printer and found out that there is a symlink from /usr/share/cups/model to /usr/share/ppd, and it's not there in debian.. is that a bug? |
| 06:47.10 | Vasistha | hmm, I wonder if the coin will fit in my floppy drive |
| 06:47.27 | Vasistha | tuv: that's not something we would call a bug |
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| 06:48.03 | kevix | tuv: contrary to popular belief, ubuntu and debian do things differently. |
| 06:48.10 | Sazpaimon | so I try sshing into my remote debian box |
| 06:48.19 | DimmuR | Vasistha: you should find coin-box on usb :) |
| 06:48.22 | Sazpaimon | and I keep getting an incorrect password whehn I KNOW its right |
| 06:48.26 | tuv | kevix, that's not the point.. it is working in ubuntu and is not working in debian |
| 06:48.28 | Sazpaimon | I can log into webmin just fine |
| 06:48.37 | Sazpaimon | but ssh is failing |
| 06:48.45 | Sazpaimon | any suggestions |
| 06:48.54 | DimmuR | Sazpaimon: you're trying to ssh as root? |
| 06:48.55 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon: are you sure you're getting the syntax right for the username to log in with? |
| 06:49.15 | Sazpaimon | DimmuR, I tried root, then I tried creating a new user via webmin and trying with that |
| 06:49.18 | Sazpaimon | both failed |
| 06:49.19 | kevix | tuv: do you have the same packages (for printing) installed. cupsys*, etc. |
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| 06:49.49 | kevix | !dpkg cups |
| 06:49.49 | dpkg | i guess cups is a spiffy new printing system. or available under the GPL since june 1999., or making loads of trouble if you try to use it. what breast size?, or available at http://www.cups.org (or so says http://www.easysw.com), or see cups-unstable, or http://localhost:631/admin, or see cups setup |
| 06:49.53 | Sazpaimon | ssh seems to give me an access denied message instantly |
| 06:49.59 | Sazpaimon | if I put in the right password that is |
| 06:50.01 | superlinux | Vasistha, thanks |
| 06:50.02 | tuv | kevix, yes.. as far as i can tell.. if you're concerned about a package in particular please tell me |
| 06:50.07 | superlinux | I read it in the manual |
| 06:50.08 | kevix | !dpkg cups-unstable |
| 06:50.08 | dpkg | use ln -s /etc/cups/cgi-bin /usr/lib/cups/cgi-bin to get cups to print in woody or sid. |
| 06:50.13 | Sazpaimon | if I put in the wrong password it waits a second, then gives me the access denied message |
| 06:50.26 | chump | hey how can i figure out which version of PHP i'm running on my web server? |
| 06:50.26 | superlinux | for pppoe it should be 1412 |
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| 06:50.52 | Sazpaimon | and Vasistha, I made sure I was putting in the correct username and password |
| 06:50.53 | Vasistha | chump: well, of course you could ask in ##php but I'll look it up for you |
| 06:50.57 | kevix | tuv: can you connect to http://localhost:631 ? |
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| 06:51.07 | Sazpaimon | so any ideas? |
| 06:51.21 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon: righto. I know I've sometimes had trouble getting the command line syntax right, and it can give confusing errors |
| 06:51.36 | Sazpaimon | yea, Ive tried this with multiple users |
| 06:51.39 | cahoot | chump: looked at /var/log/apache/error.log? |
| 06:51.44 | tuv | kevix, yes.. but a very small list of Make's appear when trying to add a printer |
| 06:51.48 | Sazpaimon | but the instant "access denied" message is intresting me |
| 06:51.57 | chump | i'm not having any errors |
| 06:52.03 | Sazpaimon | rather than the delayed message if I put in the wrong message |
| 06:52.09 | Sazpaimon | *wrong password |
| 06:52.11 | kevix | tuv: what kind of printer is it? |
| 06:52.16 | chump | i'm just using gettype() and its kicking back string for a boolean |
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| 06:52.30 | cahoot | chump: look anyway |
| 06:52.36 | tuv | kevix, samsung |
| 06:52.40 | knite | Vasistha: I think I'll try to write an "ltouch" utility :) |
| 06:52.48 | kevix | tuv: what model of printer is it? |
| 06:52.54 | Sazpaimon | let's check auth.log |
| 06:53.07 | Vasistha | chump: try the phpinfo() function it'll print out everything i think |
| 06:53.12 | Sazpaimon | May 25 02:45:58 server sshd[3876]: Server listening on :: port 22. |
| 06:53.12 | Sazpaimon | May 25 02:46:31 server sshd[3850]: (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=pool-71-107-156-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net user=saz |
| 06:53.12 | Sazpaimon | May 25 02:46:31 server sshd[3850]: pam_mysql - required option "db" is not set |
| 06:53.12 | Sazpaimon | May 25 02:46:33 server sshd[3842]: error: PAM: Authentication failure for saz from pool-71-107-156-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net |
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| 06:53.26 | Sazpaimon | yikes |
| 06:53.29 | Sazpaimon | longer than I thought |
| 06:53.30 | Sazpaimon | my bad |
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| 06:53.36 | tuv | kevix, Samsung ML-1610.. ML-1510 driver worked with it on ubuntu |
| 06:53.59 | Sazpaimon | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2632 |
| 06:54.06 | Sazpaimon | this is what auth.log is telling me |
| 06:54.10 | chump | [client 192.168.0.11] script '/var/www/code/php241.php' not found or unable to stat |
| 06:54.19 | tuv | kevix, valdyn, the whole list appears now.. i needed to make a symlink |
| 06:54.31 | Vasistha | knite: nice. something like find -type l -print0 | while read i; lnk=`readlink "$i"`; rm $i; ln -s "$lnk" "$i"; done |
| 06:54.45 | amahbod | hello all. i cant ssh into my computer. it says that the server refuses to make a pty |
| 06:54.47 | Vasistha | knite wait, that won't work at all... |
| 06:54.49 | chump | mostly just alot of file doesn't exist favicon.jpg |
| 06:54.52 | chump | .ico( |
| 06:54.54 | tuv | kevix, valdyn: ln -s /usr/share/ppd/linuxprinting.org-gs-builtin/ /usr/share/cups/model/foomatic-ppds |
| 06:54.55 | chump | .ico* |
| 06:55.04 | Sazpaimon | what does it tell you guys? |
| 06:55.12 | Sazpaimon | because this is really bizzare |
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| 06:55.43 | tuv | kevix, that symlink is present in ubuntu |
| 06:55.55 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon: it's weird that uid=0 |
| 06:55.57 | tuv | kevix, otherwise i wouldn't have known about it |
| 06:56.14 | kevix | tuv: checkout this: http://www.linuxprinting.org/pipermail/samsung-list/2006q1/001341.html |
| 06:56.22 | knite | Vasistha: well, I'd like to be able to specify the modtime for the link itself, so I think I'm going to modify 'touch' utility to add a --no-dereference option |
| 06:56.30 | Sazpaimon | Vasistha, considerring I just created that user a few minutes ago, yea |
| 06:57.03 | Vasistha | knite: yeah, that's probably the way to go... another thing to do is sign up with the gnu-coreutils mailing list, they might have a few thoughts on the issue |
| 06:57.13 | kevix | tuv: please make a bug report! |
| 06:57.45 | amahbod | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.47 | tuv | kevix, i know.. i did that.. but i was wondering why ml-1510 and the whole samsung race in general showed up in ubuntu and not in the mother debian |
| 06:57.53 | amahbod | does anyone know wht that happens? |
| 06:57.56 | Sazpaimon | regardless |
| 06:58.15 | Sazpaimon | even attempting to login as a true uid0 (root) gives me the same issues |
| 06:58.30 | kevix | tuv: if someone reported the bug in ubuntu first, that may be a reason... |
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| 06:58.50 | donchapa | where can i get some help for installing a isa sb sound card using kernel 2.6.8-2? |
| 06:59.09 | Vasistha | tub: my apologies, I shouldn't have spoken so quickly! I guess it is a bug... |
| 06:59.26 | kevix | donchapa: have you install 'alsa-utils' and tryed 'alsaconf' ? |
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| 06:59.32 | Sazpaimon | this is really really bad, because ssh is the onyly way I can access my server |
| 06:59.39 | plasmoduck | how do I set the interface speed in SLURM? |
| 06:59.46 | donchapa | kevix, yes i have... |
| 06:59.49 | plasmoduck | it says Interface Speed: unknown |
| 07:00.05 | kevix | donchapa: what was the result? |
| 07:00.45 | Sazpaimon | so uh,help? :/ |
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| 07:01.25 | donchapa | kevix, it ends showing only "accept" but that's all.... then i tried alsamixer.... with this result: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 07:01.41 | amahbod | does anyone know why i get this error when i try to ssh into my computer? Server refused to allocate pty |
| 07:01.52 | kevix | donchapa: ok. what does 'lspci' show for audio? |
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| 07:02.02 | Sazpaimon | :/ |
| 07:02.47 | donchapa | kevix, nothing.... but dmesg shows it, and pnpdump does too |
| 07:03.09 | kevix | donchapa: what kind of card does it say it is? |
| 07:03.15 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon: have you tried both the -l login_name and the user@hostname syntaxes for specifying user name? |
| 07:03.51 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon: I know it sounds silly. In fact, it might be! I really don't know how ssh works :-) |
| 07:03.57 | donchapa | kevix, ANSI string -->Creative SB32 PnP<-- |
| 07:04.31 | Sazpaimon | Vasistha, ssh generally doesnt need an @hostame suffix if it isnt part of the username |
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| 07:05.11 | killown | anyone to know program that cut draw machines plooter in vinil? |
| 07:05.39 | Vasistha | amahbod: wish I could help you, but I really don't know! |
| 07:05.46 | plasmoduck | When I run PsyBNC as user it crashes so I have to use root, do I have to chmod the file or something? |
| 07:05.49 | cahoot | amahbod: does 'mount' show a line like: devpts on /dev/pts type devpts |
| 07:05.53 | kevix | open up a console, log in as root, type 'tail -f /var/log/messages', then open another console, log in as root, then type 'modprobe snd-sb16' and tell me what it shows. |
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| 07:06.10 | amahbod | cahoot no it doesnt; i tried to mount it manually and it said devpts was not a valid type |
| 07:06.44 | Vasistha | killown: maybe I can help you clean up your english? That sentence is pretty unintelligable. What are you trying to do? |
| 07:06.53 | cahoot | amahbod: running a custom kernel? |
| 07:06.55 | amahbod | cahoot i think i accidentally turned off a kernel option when compiling; any idea where that would be? |
| 07:07.03 | donchapa | kevix, kernel: isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... kernel: pnp: SB audio device quirk - increasing port range... kernel: pnp: AWE32 quirk - adding two ports... kernel: isapnp: Card 'Creative SB32 PnP'... kernel: isapnp: 1 Plug & Play card detected total |
| 07:07.08 | amahbod | cahoot character devices? |
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| 07:07.21 | Sazpaimon | blaah |
| 07:07.29 | Sazpaimon | there's only so much I can do in webmin :(' |
| 07:07.33 | amahbod | cahoot ty man. |
| 07:08.07 | cahoot | CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS=y - is what I have amahbod |
| 07:08.09 | evil_andy | ok, this is a stupid question I know, but how do I prevent dhclient from overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf file if I'm using dhcp. I have used the supersede command in the /etc/dhclient.conf file to no avail. |
| 07:08.27 | evil_andy | it's debian 3.1 |
| 07:08.33 | killown | Vasistha I want to cut drawings in one machine of plotter |
| 07:08.34 | amahbod | cahoot cool; i am fixing mine :P |
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| 07:09.14 | Vasistha | killown: by "one machine of plotter" you mean you have a machine that draws lines, a "plotting machine"? |
| 07:09.52 | donchapa | evil_andy, you can set up your prefered ns.... but i don't know how to prevent an overwritting |
| 07:09.52 | killown | Vasistha yes |
| 07:09.52 | kevix | donchapa: ok. looks good. run 'alsamixer'. |
| 07:09.52 | Vasistha | killown: and the drawings that you refer to, those drawings are made by the plotting machine? |
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| 07:10.00 | Sazpaimon | ok |
| 07:10.04 | killown | Vasistha yes |
| 07:10.04 | Sazpaimon | checking the auth.log |
| 07:10.04 | Sazpaimon | May 25 03:08:25 server sshd[4113]: pam_mysql - required option "db" is not set |
| 07:10.11 | Sazpaimon | what does this mean |
| 07:10.14 | evil_andy | donchapa, yeah, I've decided to just say screw it, and use static instead... I can get away with it :\ |
| 07:10.25 | ekkikrist | evil_andy: supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; |
| 07:10.27 | donchapa | kevix, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 07:10.27 | Vasistha | killown: what does "cutting" have to do with anything? and how does this all relate to a computer? |
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| 07:10.44 | kevix | donchapa: ok. try 'modprobe snd-sbawe' |
| 07:10.53 | Sazpaimon | because right after that it says |
| 07:10.53 | Sazpaimon | May 25 03:09:33 server sshd[4110]: error: PAM: Error in service module for saz from pool-71-107-156-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net |
| 07:10.55 | killown | :( |
| 07:10.58 | ekkikrist | evil_andy: /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 07:11.04 | Sazpaimon | then gives me access denied |
| 07:11.11 | evil_andy | ekkikrist, yeah, I tried that, it still gets overwritten |
| 07:11.30 | ekkikrist | ah |
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| 07:11.42 | ekkikrist | evil_andy: chmod 444 /etc/resolv.conf |
| 07:11.44 | donchapa | kevix, thank you |
| 07:11.46 | killown | e need of program to cut drawings in my machine |
| 07:11.48 | Sazpaimon | ..anyone? |
| 07:11.55 | Vasistha | killown: hmm. you want to cut the drawing with scissors? |
| 07:11.58 | evil_andy | ekkikrist, I even removed domain-name-servers from the list of things to request from the server |
| 07:12.09 | ekkikrist | evil_andy: I think you are right ... it is messed up |
| 07:12.12 | killown | nop |
| 07:12.13 | kevix | donchapa: you then have to add in to /etc/modules for it to load at boot. |
| 07:12.15 | evil_andy | ekkikrist, actually, it may just be that the netgear router doesn't play nice ;) |
| 07:12.22 | killown | whit my machine |
| 07:12.31 | donchapa | kevix, yeah, thanks |
| 07:12.42 | Vasistha | killown: you have a machine that cuts things into pieces? |
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| 07:12.55 | killown | Vasistha yep |
| 07:12.56 | ekkikrist | I chop you to pieces! |
| 07:12.59 | kevix | Vasistha: I call it a sissor! |
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| 07:13.37 | Vasistha | killown: the "plotting machine", does that machine also do the cutting? |
| 07:13.39 | superlinux | 1- my server is configured as transparent squid proxy. 2- mozilla shows so much on the status bar "waiting hostname" rather than "transfering" for a cached page. shouldn't the cached page be only "transfering"? |
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| 07:14.06 | killown | Vasistha cut vinil formats |
| 07:14.10 | killown | :( |
| 07:14.10 | Vasistha | kevix: hehheh I asked that first... this thing has me intrigued now |
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| 07:15.19 | killown | :( |
| 07:15.25 | Vasistha | killown: vinyl format? well, you lost me there. How is the plotting machine related to the cutting machine? |
| 07:15.28 | pbryan | superlinux: If the proxy is transparent, then the browser thinks it connects as usual. |
| 07:15.47 | superlinux | ok |
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| 07:16.02 | superlinux | pbryan, but I am using my own DNS |
| 07:16.15 | ekkikrist | just look in the squid logs |
| 07:16.15 | Sazpaimon | I can execute commands via webmin |
| 07:16.18 | Sazpaimon | whqat should I check |
| 07:16.21 | Sazpaimon | :/ |
| 07:16.22 | superlinux | pbryan, I am sending the DNS ip through pppoe |
| 07:16.29 | chump | that php command didn't work |
| 07:16.48 | pbryan | superlinux: Browser tries to connect to server on port 80, and netfilter routes request to squid, right? |
| 07:16.50 | killown | Vasistha vinyl cutter plotter |
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| 07:17.12 | ekkikrist | killown: A lathe |
| 07:17.16 | pbryan | superlinux: From the browser's standpoint, it's trying to connect to a server you specify in the URL. It doesn't know it's connecting to a proxy. |
| 07:17.35 | Vasistha | killown: interesting. And I gather it connects to your computer, perhaps via the parallel port, or if it's newer, usb ... |
| 07:17.49 | Sazpaimon | :\ |
| 07:17.50 | superlinux | I know that |
| 07:17.52 | killown | http://www.iehk.net/ Vasistha |
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| 07:18.13 | pbryan | superlinux: So I would expect the browser to report it is trying to connect to the server in its status bar. |
| 07:18.27 | Vasistha | killown: well, you know I can't resist checking that out, you've got me so curious what this mystery machine is ! |
| 07:18.35 | superlinux | pbryan, but CNN's it taking ages to be reloaded! |
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| 07:18.36 | Sazpaimon | blargh |
| 07:18.43 | superlinux | and many other sites |
| 07:18.55 | ekkikrist | It's like using cad software to carve out a solid piece of plastic |
| 07:19.00 | pbryan | superlinux: There may be reasons why the proxy can't cache such pages. |
| 07:19.11 | ekkikrist | Like a lathe or router |
| 07:19.13 | pbryan | superlinux: Many pages include pragma to disable caching. |
| 07:19.24 | Sazpaimon | hmm... |
| 07:19.27 | Vasistha | ekkikrist: no, not a lathe hehheh... this is a machine for large-format printing on vinyl surfaces, and also for cutting, it looks like |
| 07:19.35 | Sazpaimon | k, Im stumped |
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| 07:19.41 | superlinux | I know that .. thu I am using refresh rates rules |
| 07:19.45 | Sazpaimon | all of my ssh configuration appears right' |
| 07:19.47 | kevix | killown: http://www.engravingsys.com/versalaser.htm |
| 07:19.56 | Sazpaimon | and I have no idea WHY the auth is failing |
| 07:19.59 | killown | ok |
| 07:20.18 | Vasistha | killown: oh, the icut vinyl sign cutter plotter |
| 07:20.19 | pbryan | superlinux: Does squid log show request going through? |
| 07:20.19 | superlinux | and sometimes I get so many resolving while I should not |
| 07:20.26 | superlinux | wait |
| 07:20.38 | Sazpaimon | what commands should i run with webmin to check my stuff? |
| 07:20.58 | killown | i use autocad for ploting in windows |
| 07:21.21 | killown | but in linux dont know an program that make it |
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| 07:21.35 | sid | qcad - A professional CAD System |
| 07:21.37 | Sazpaimon | :/ |
| 07:21.39 | sid | killown: try qcad |
| 07:21.40 | Sazpaimon | ...anyone? |
| 07:21.46 | killown | ok |
| 07:21.50 | superlinux | pbryan, well the size of the cache is growing |
| 07:21.53 | usn | good morning |
| 07:21.53 | sid | !tell Sazpaimon about webmin |
| 07:21.58 | kevix | killown: there are linux cad programs but not near $$$$$$ program like autocad |
| 07:22.03 | sid | Sazpaimon: /join #webmin |
| 07:22.05 | Sazpaimon | sid, Im find with webmin |
| 07:22.07 | Sazpaimon | *fine |
| 07:22.10 | killown | thanks all |
| 07:22.13 | Sazpaimon | my problem is with authentication |
| 07:22.18 | killown | bye bye |
| 07:22.22 | pbryan | superlinux: That's a good sign... |
| 07:22.31 | Sazpaimon | when I put in the right password Im instantly greeted with an access denied message |
| 07:22.45 | Sazpaimon | (this is via ssh) |
| 07:22.50 | Sazpaimon | when I use the wrong password it takes longer to give me the same message |
| 07:22.59 | sid | #debian != #webmin |
| 07:23.04 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: yes, that's because you've logged in and gotten a shell like /bin/false |
| 07:23.05 | Sazpaimon | [00:22] <Sazpaimon> (this is via ssh) |
| 07:23.08 | Sazpaimon | on debian |
| 07:23.19 | Sazpaimon | dondelelcaro, nope |
| 07:23.21 | sid | There are over 17,000 packages on debian...heh |
| 07:23.23 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: read your auth logs |
| 07:23.31 | sid | webmin is garbage |
| 07:23.48 | Sazpaimon | sid, right now its the ONLY thing I can use to access my server |
| 07:24.01 | litage | is it possible to set the umask for a group so that all users who have that group as their primary group use that umask? |
| 07:24.10 | Vasistha | rrgh killown left before I could tell him anything helpful |
| 07:24.13 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: you don't have a console or anything else? So how do you know that your shell isn't /bin/false? |
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| 07:24.36 | Sazpaimon | dondelelcaro, well, first off, it's root |
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| 07:24.46 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: root can't ever log in |
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| 07:24.55 | dondelelcaro | (unless you've modified your sshd configuration) |
| 07:24.56 | Sazpaimon | secondly, I made a new account in webmin with /bin/sh as the shell |
| 07:25.17 | blondie | dondelelcaro: root can login by ssh as default on debian |
| 07:25.25 | blondie | s/as/by/ |
| 07:25.29 | Vasistha | litage: I don't think so |
| 07:25.37 | Sazpaimon | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2633 |
| 07:25.43 | Sazpaimon | contelts of my auth.log |
| 07:25.47 | dondelelcaro | blondie: I thought the default was PermitRootLogin: no now... but whatever |
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| 07:25.56 | blondie | dondelelcaro: sadly not |
| 07:26.11 | blondie | unless it changed in the last week or so |
| 07:26.12 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: uh... why are you using pam_mysql? |
| 07:26.19 | Vasistha | litage: have you read about the "user private group" model? It may be what you need to implement, and everyone would just have umask 002, and it ought to work properly |
| 07:26.31 | Sazpaimon | dondelelcaro, I shouldn't be |
| 07:26.37 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: well, you are. |
| 07:26.46 | Sazpaimon | I have no idea WHY its calling that |
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| 07:26.59 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: apt-get --purge remove libpam-mysql; and continue on. |
| 07:27.29 | Sazpaimon | only thing I can see mysql being used in is for my mail |
| 07:27.35 | Sazpaimon | which reads users from a mysql database |
| 07:27.58 | dondelelcaro | May 25 03:15:00 server sshd[4237]: pam_mysql - required option "db" is not set <--.... makes it pretty obvious... |
| 07:28.19 | Sazpaimon | blah |
| 07:28.27 | Sazpaimon | Im trying to run this in webmin |
| 07:28.27 | Sazpaimon | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Abort. |
| 07:28.35 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: use --force-yes |
| 07:28.40 | Sazpaimon | I tried that |
| 07:28.51 | dondelelcaro | s/force/assume/ |
| 07:28.51 | Sazpaimon | apt-get --force-yes --purge remove libpam-mysql |
| 07:28.59 | litage | Vasistha: i haven't heard of the "user private group" model |
| 07:29.07 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: it's --assume-yes... |
| 07:29.07 | Sazpaimon | assume did it |
| 07:29.43 | superlinux | pbryan, I think I found the problem |
| 07:29.44 | Vasistha | litage: I think the idea was first widely implemented by red hat, but it's more common now. google / read up! |
| 07:29.45 | Sazpaimon | ok |
| 07:29.47 | Sazpaimon | NOW the error is |
| 07:29.48 | Sazpaimon | May 25 03:28:15 server sshd[4350]: error: PAM: Module is unknown for saz from pool-71-107-156-2.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net |
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| 07:29.53 | pbryan | superlinux: What was it? |
| 07:29.57 | litage | thanks Vasistha |
| 07:29.59 | superlinux | the issue is in the DNS |
| 07:30.03 | superlinux | ok? |
| 07:30.07 | servus | Hmm, someone lives close to me with that IP :) |
| 07:30.14 | pbryan | superlinux: Okay. |
| 07:30.25 | litage | is ~/.bash_profile only sourced when opening a terminal? |
| 07:30.26 | Vasistha | litage: enjoy... I really enjoyed it! |
| 07:30.27 | Sazpaimon | and still gives me the error |
| 07:30.40 | Sazpaimon | error being not logging in |
| 07:30.48 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: ok, you've screwed up the pam configuration somewhere; where are the lines above that? what does your /etc/pam.d/ssh and /etc/pam.d/login say? |
| 07:31.04 | Vasistha | servus: I think I'm also on dsl-w.verizon.net |
| 07:31.15 | Sazpaimon | *Sazpaimon |
| 07:31.18 | dondelelcaro | litage: on any interactive login shell |
| 07:31.27 | Sazpaimon | ans servus |
| 07:31.28 | Sazpaimon | :P |
| 07:31.30 | litage | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 07:31.40 | MariusX | Still having problems with gnome not starting. is KDE working in etch? |
| 07:31.44 | Sazpaimon | anyway |
| 07:31.49 | litage | so how do you set the umask for a non-interactive shell? |
| 07:31.53 | dondelelcaro | litage: man bash; basically goes through the whole deal |
| 07:32.01 | dondelelcaro | litage: set it in .bashrc |
| 07:32.08 | Sazpaimon | dondelelcaro, how can I few the contents without vi or any similar editor |
| 07:32.35 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: you can't. Get a console and login. |
| 07:32.43 | Sazpaimon | ...if I can |
| 07:32.48 | dondelelcaro | (well, not trivially, anyway) |
| 07:32.50 | Sazpaimon | I can exectute commands via webmin |
| 07:32.51 | Sazpaimon | that's it |
| 07:33.05 | Sazpaimon | but vi, nano, etc give me a terminal error |
| 07:33.09 | SubStack | few => view? |
| 07:33.14 | SubStack | if so, cat |
| 07:33.15 | Sazpaimon | yes |
| 07:33.21 | Sazpaimon | ah yes! cart |
| 07:33.23 | Sazpaimon | *cat |
| 07:33.38 | Sazpaimon | so just cat /etc/pam.d/ssh |
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| 07:33.40 | Sazpaimon | right? |
| 07:33.44 | dondelelcaro | to see it, yes. |
| 07:33.59 | kevix | MariusX: you can use twm, wmaker, ... |
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| 07:34.12 | iKernel | i got the nvidia bug report, ssh'd into comp |
| 07:34.20 | Sazpaimon | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2634 |
| 07:34.22 | SubStack | bah, rtmp_info.c:593: error: unknown field `get_wireless_stats' specified in initializer |
| 07:34.25 | SubStack | stupid rt2500 |
| 07:34.28 | Sazpaimon | /etc/pam.d/ssh contents |
| 07:34.32 | dubbaluga | hi! how can i link against the libc6-dbg shared object? i tried ldconfig -n and passwd /usr/lib/debug where it resides but it still uses /lib/tls/libc6-2.3.6.so |
| 07:34.39 | iKernel | so, my comp doesn't totally freeze over... but, it was slow |
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| 07:34.44 | MariusX | so KDE and Gnome are problimatice in etch then? |
| 07:34.50 | SubStack | tried for gcc 3.3, 3.4, and 4.0, same results |
| 07:34.53 | iKernel | meh |
| 07:35.18 | dondelelcaro | dubbaluga: just LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/lib/debug" fooblehblah |
| 07:35.19 | Eulex | SubStack, is that a kernel module you're trying to compile? |
| 07:35.23 | SubStack | yeah |
| 07:35.27 | Sazpaimon | wait I can see this via webmin section anyway |
| 07:35.37 | Sazpaimon | what do I need to add to ssh |
| 07:35.40 | Sazpaimon | or login |
| 07:35.42 | dondelelcaro | although, what would be more useful is a libc6-dbg package with the symbols stripped from the actual library instead. |
| 07:35.46 | SubStack | maybe they shipped faulty code |
| 07:35.53 | dubbaluga | dondelelcaro: thanks a lot - works!! |
| 07:35.55 | kevix | MariusX: they have a lot of dependencies to get 'in sync'. if you use less complex gui's like xfce, wmaker, blackbox, they have easier time to get into testing. |
| 07:35.56 | SubStack | this is the unstable branch |
| 07:36.14 | Eulex | SubStack, most likely, that version of the driver is not compatible with your kernel |
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| 07:37.05 | pbryan | Debian: Your project seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular? |
| 07:37.08 | Sazpaimon | dondelelcaro, what module needs to be in there? |
| 07:37.10 | SubStack | possibly |
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| 07:37.20 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: I'd have to see the whole thing |
| 07:37.34 | Sazpaimon | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2634 |
| 07:37.36 | Sazpaimon | that's the ssh file |
| 07:37.38 | Eulex | SubStack, that's one of the most common reasons to that they don't build. |
| 07:37.44 | kevix | pbryan: because we have a social contact and debian policy! |
| 07:38.02 | MariusX | ok then. cool. thank you very much for your time. I will try and get one of those working and then continue reading into the rest of getting gnome going. |
| 07:38.13 | Sazpaimon | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2635 |
| 07:38.17 | Sazpaimon | and here's login |
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| 07:38.29 | Vasistha | I have to say that it's really fantastically interesting how enormously popular debian is, esp. considering how slowly the project moves in some ways |
| 07:38.30 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: and /etc/pam.d/common-account |
| 07:38.39 | dli | SubStack, rt2500 doesn't need firmware |
| 07:39.00 | Pook2 | does anyone know where I can get a debian 3.0 install cd from? im trying to install CPanel and it will only install on 3.0 |
| 07:39.15 | kevix | Vasistha: we have now more than 1300+ developers and 1600 packages! |
| 07:39.16 | Vasistha | Pook2: hmmm, I have one over here... where do you live? :-) |
| 07:39.17 | Sazpaimon | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2636 |
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| 07:39.21 | iKernel | maybe it's possible that I do have rivafb compiled into my kernel, just not in the kernel sources I have, since I disabled it... gonna compile kernel |
| 07:39.32 | dondelelcaro | Pook2: you can just download it from a mirror |
| 07:39.34 | Pook2 | Vasistha: an image on the net somewhere would be better (: |
| 07:39.44 | Sazpaimon | it still has pam_mysql.so in there |
| 07:39.52 | kevix | Pook2: buy or download? |
| 07:39.58 | Vasistha | Pook2: well, yeah, it would be best. have you really searched the mirrors? I think it ought to be available |
| 07:39.59 | Sazpaimon | but I assume just removing it from the system wont remove it from the conf |
| 07:40.03 | Pook2 | dondelelcaro: all i can see on the mirrors are 3.1 images |
| 07:40.11 | kroddn | where is a 3.0 to be downloaded? |
| 07:40.21 | kroddn | I#d be interested in that thing to :) |
| 07:40.26 | superlinux | pbryan, (mom asked for me) then I set the DNS cache time in within squid to be longer |
| 07:40.38 | Pook2 | gar its driving me crazy |
| 07:40.47 | pbryan | superlinux: And now it performs better? |
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| 07:41.02 | superlinux | yea some how |
| 07:41.04 | dondelelcaro | Pook2: alternatively, you can just debootstrap woody from any mirror using any installer you want. |
| 07:41.05 | kroddn | Pook2: what is cpanel? |
| 07:41.10 | dondelelcaro | Pook2: although, cpanel should work on 3.1 too |
| 07:41.17 | Pook2 | www.cpanel.net |
| 07:41.27 | Pook2 | dondelelcaro: the install hangs |
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| 07:41.40 | Sazpaimon | dondelelcaro, so what am I missing? |
| 07:42.04 | superlinux | pbryan, I have a problem only with CNN |
| 07:42.07 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: ditch the pam_mysql line |
| 07:42.25 | pbryan | superlinux: How long does it take just to perform "host cnn.com"? |
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| 07:42.46 | superlinux | abt a min to 2 min |
| 07:43.00 | dondelelcaro | perl -pi -e 's/(account\s+required\s+pam_mysql)/#$1/' /etc/pam.d/common-account; should do it. |
| 07:43.01 | superlinux | it takes long |
| 07:43.06 | pbryan | superlinux: Yikes. |
| 07:43.13 | dli | Pook2, for debian 3.0, ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian-cd/ |
| 07:43.16 | Vasistha | Pook2: tried this? http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ |
| 07:43.19 | Pook2 | i can installed cpanel on suse but debian would be such nicer |
| 07:43.20 | superlinux | speacially when I reload |
| 07:43.32 | Pook2 | cheers |
| 07:43.40 | dli | Pook2, I think you didn't even search, I got the link following the list from debian.org |
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| 07:43.57 | Sazpaimon | aaaaaaaand that did it |
| 07:44.00 | Vasistha | Pook2: d'oh! woody's not there yet, it's still "oldstable" |
| 07:44.01 | iceyp | hey guys, i need to build a package that needs debian source, apt-get source ? |
| 07:44.05 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon: congrats! |
| 07:44.07 | Sazpaimon | now what I'd like to know is HOW that line got there |
| 07:44.22 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: you installed libpam-mysql, and it added it |
| 07:44.23 | Vasistha | iceyp: yeah, that's right |
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| 07:44.27 | Sazpaimon | last thing I did was a (what appeared to be) a successful dist-upgrade |
| 07:44.30 | Sazpaimon | hmm.. |
| 07:44.33 | Vasistha | iceyp: I believe you don't even have to be root to apt-get source |
| 07:44.34 | dli | iceyp, be specific :( |
| 07:44.37 | Sazpaimon | guess that added libpam-mysql |
| 07:44.46 | iceyp | i need debian source |
| 07:45.21 | superlinux | pbryan, but I have dansgurdian in the way... but however.. dansg is not making any problem |
| 07:45.22 | Pook2 | ? |
| 07:45.33 | Pook2 | debian sauce? |
| 07:45.36 | Pook2 | (: |
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| 07:45.39 | Sazpaimon | so webmin actualy proves itself useful once in its miserable life |
| 07:45.42 | iceyp | yes as in the source code :) |
| 07:45.53 | Pook2 | debian is a distro not a package |
| 07:45.53 | pbryan | superlinux: Strange that it would take so long. What happens when you query an upstream DNS server instead of your own? |
| 07:45.56 | Sazpaimon | so thanks dondelelcaro |
| 07:45.58 | iceyp | bsd stores this in /usr/src/sys |
| 07:45.59 | dondelelcaro | Sazpaimon: np |
| 07:46.06 | iceyp | i need the linux equivalent |
| 07:46.12 | Sazpaimon | and I was actually planning on ditching webmnin |
| 07:46.14 | kevix | iceyp: you need a 'deb-src' line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:46.16 | Sazpaimon | *wemin |
| 07:46.18 | Sazpaimon | ... |
| 07:46.21 | Pook2 | the kernel source? |
| 07:46.22 | Sazpaimon | I can type, just not tonight |
| 07:46.25 | iceyp | yes |
| 07:46.28 | Pook2 | ahh |
| 07:46.36 | Pook2 | ftp.kernel.org |
| 07:46.42 | iceyp | thnx kevix now to find a nz mirror |
| 07:46.46 | superlinux | if I use dig or nslookup it give it at once |
| 07:46.51 | superlinux | on cable speed |
| 07:47.15 | Pook2 | iceyp: get the kernel source and use make-kpkg it makes life easy |
| 07:47.16 | SubStack | fetched the nightly for rt2500 and rtmp_info.c compiled successfully this time |
| 07:47.17 | superlinux | and I am not using bind9 but I am using PDNSD |
| 07:47.32 | superlinux | it's a caching DNS server like squid |
| 07:47.36 | SubStack | rt2500-source in unstable is broked |
| 07:47.46 | SubStack | whole thing compiled now |
| 07:47.47 | pbryan | superlinux: Sounds like it could use some work... |
| 07:47.56 | kevix | iceyp: just 'copy' the 'deb' line and change 'deb' to 'deb-src' (done!) |
| 07:48.10 | Pook2 | kevix: he wants the kernel source |
| 07:48.25 | superlinux | pbryan, what we are doing is aving as much bandwidth as we can |
| 07:48.42 | kevix | iceyp: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 07:48.50 | pbryan | superlinux: s/aving/saving/? |
| 07:48.52 | Pook2 | kevix: barbarian |
| 07:48.52 | iceyp | i.e. deb-src ftp://debian.ihug.co.nz/debian/ stable main |
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| 07:49.02 | superlinux | yes |
| 07:49.05 | iceyp | thnx |
| 07:49.07 | pbryan | superlinux: makes sense |
| 07:49.09 | superlinux | and our lan is a pppoe over wireless |
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| 07:49.20 | pbryan | superlinux: Niiice... |
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| 07:49.54 | superlinux | most of our work is linux debian only in Saida, Lebanon |
| 07:49.55 | Dwonis | !ops <GuL> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 07:49.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: <GuL> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
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| 07:50.09 | iceyp | kevix apt-cache cant find linux-source |
| 07:50.25 | iceyp | Failed to fetch ftp://debian.ihug.co.nz/debian/dists/stable/main/source/Sources.gz Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian/dists/stable/main/source/Sources.gz: No such file or directory ' |
| 07:50.34 | Pook2 | iceyp: you will need the libncurses5-dev package if you want to run make menuconfig and module-init-tools if you are changing from a 2.4 to a 2.6 kernel |
| 07:50.48 | blondie | iceyp: apt-get update |
| 07:51.06 | Pook2 | that looks like it was an update |
| 07:51.11 | tuv | kevix, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=368823 |
| 07:51.12 | iceyp | yeah it was |
| 07:51.13 | kevix | superlinux: Debian needs folks in Lebanon! have you checked out the arabeyes.org project. |
| 07:51.31 | Dwonis | in the sarge installer, what does expert move give you, again? |
| 07:51.32 | superlinux | kevix, I am not a programming guru |
| 07:51.40 | Pook2 | iceyp: you another source |
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| 07:51.43 | Pook2 | iceyp: i use |
| 07:51.43 | Pook2 | deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 07:51.43 | Pook2 | deb-src http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/ stable main non-free contrib |
| 07:51.49 | superlinux | but I am a founding member in the lebanese LUG |
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| 07:52.00 | brownie17 | what's the command to check the status of your 3d graphics drivers? |
| 07:52.05 | superlinux | thu I am the only palestinian |
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| 07:52.53 | FleaDie | iceyp: apt-setup; apt-cache search linux-source |
| 07:53.09 | kevix | tuv: making Debian better, one bugreport at a time! |
| 07:53.20 | tuv | kevix, :) |
| 07:53.24 | codenamewilly | Hi |
| 07:53.32 | brownie17 | does anyone know what command could be used to check the status of your 3d graphics drivers? |
| 07:53.41 | tuv | bronze, glxinfo maybe |
| 07:53.50 | tuv | oops |
| 07:53.55 | tuv | brownie17, glxinfo maybe |
| 07:54.01 | tuv | nm bronze |
| 07:54.07 | iceyp | thnx FleaDie |
| 07:54.13 | Vasistha | tuv: tab completion to the ... uh ... |
| 07:54.16 | codenamewilly | When i give the command depkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 nothing |
| 07:54.19 | mentor | Dwonis: Is that on join? |
| 07:54.19 | codenamewilly | happens |
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| 07:54.24 | kevix | brownie17: as tuv said, glxinfo, or glxgears |
| 07:54.26 | mentor | yes :) |
| 07:54.34 | iceyp | still no source in the apt-search |
| 07:54.35 | Dwonis | mentor: yup, a /msg |
| 07:54.54 | tuv | Vasistha, it's their fault.. picking close nicks.. |
| 07:54.57 | iceyp | can i do this |
| 07:54.57 | iceyp | deb http://debian.orcon.net.nz/debian stable main contrib non-free source |
| 07:54.59 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 07:55.03 | Pook2 | iceyp: just use the ones I pasted |
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| 07:55.14 | codenamewilly | I want to change my display drivers |
| 07:55.15 | Dwonis | mentor: thanks :) |
| 07:55.16 | tuv | Vasistha, i have to utilize my tab key |
| 07:55.21 | Vasistha | tuv: yeah, I think you and I are doing pretty well... |
| 07:55.33 | tuv | Vasistha, :D |
| 07:55.38 | superlinux | pbryan, I think squid is working perfectly but for some sites |
| 07:55.54 | superlinux | squid's page was like a rocket |
| 07:55.58 | pbryan | superlinux: Sounds likely. |
| 07:56.27 | codenamewilly | Any ideas why dpkg-reconfigure does not work for xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:56.42 | Vasistha | tuv: I did a whole bunch of nick listing before I chose this, and found that the first three chars are uncommon, the first four extremely rare :-) |
| 07:57.34 | mentor | codenamewilly: Are you using sarge? |
| 07:57.39 | tuv | Vasistha, well at least you will be annoyed extremely rarely.. but can annoy at your descretion! |
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| 07:57.44 | codenamewilly | yup sarge stable |
| 07:57.51 | iKernel | I am going to try to boot with kernel 1.0 lol |
| 07:58.11 | kevix | !dpkg kp |
| 07:58.11 | dpkg | from memory, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev"and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
| 07:58.46 | brownie17 | how do i install GLX? |
| 07:58.51 | tuv | Vasistha, how strange things turn out.. a software convenience feature ends up controlling peoples nicks.. |
| 07:58.56 | iKernel | kevix, that is not related to v1.0 |
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| 07:59.29 | Vasistha | tuv: yeah, that's kind of an interesting point. Well, I'd say it's not as significant or devastating as the adoption of the qwerty keyboard |
| 07:59.40 | Pook2 | oooer looks like cpanel is installing ok this time on 3.1 Must have been a problem with vmware |
| 07:59.46 | kevix | iKernel: it was for iceyp |
| 07:59.52 | iKernel | kevix, oh, ok |
| 07:59.54 | codenamewilly | i have sis onboard i selected vesa while installation...but no gui :( |
| 08:00.28 | kevix | codenamewilly: what does 'lspci' say the video is? |
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| 08:00.55 | codenamewilly | sis 661fx |
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| 08:01.31 | Vasistha | ok, time for bed! |
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| 08:01.46 | codenamewilly | kevix:while installing i selected vesa coz i thought i should work |
| 08:01.48 | unix_infidel | anyone here messed with the code for monome yet? |
| 08:02.26 | codenamewilly | kevix:but as it is not i want to go back and change it to sis.but now dpkg-reconfigure is not wokring for me |
| 08:03.05 | brownie17 | who knows how i might get graphics drivers for a ATI card that was made earlier than linux drivers were made by ATI |
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| 08:03.16 | R-Ratones | does anybody knows a repository for djgpp ? it seems that i cant get into apt-get.org |
| 08:03.59 | kevix | codenamewilly: what command did you type? |
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| 08:04.26 | codenamewilly | kevix:dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 08:04.46 | callan | How do I install Gnome in testing? It says gnome doesn't exist. |
| 08:05.20 | iceyp | meh |
| 08:05.24 | iceyp | im having no luck here |
| 08:05.25 | codenamewilly | kevix:Nothing happens and i am no the prompt on next line |
| 08:05.29 | iceyp | You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.8-3-686-smp kernel installed. |
| 08:05.54 | Dwonis | callan: Haven't you heard? GNOME is for weenies! ;) |
| 08:06.02 | Dwonis | callan: did you try apt-cache search gnome? |
| 08:06.30 | callan | Dwonis: Yeah, it has tonnes of packages but the metapackage gnome doesn't exist =S |
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| 08:06.54 | Pook2 | iceyp: ftp to ftp.kernel.org and download linux-2.6.16.18.tar.bz2 |
| 08:07.00 | Pook2 | and make it yourself |
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| 08:07.08 | Pook2 | it will be a learning experiance for you |
| 08:07.26 | fourat | hello init[0] |
| 08:07.28 | Eulex | callan, there's currently no gnome meta-package in testing right now. most gnome components are in testing though, so just install them one by one |
| 08:07.34 | init[0] | hi foufou |
| 08:07.46 | callan | I never found it to be that education to press space copnstantly then type make |
| 08:07.48 | fourat | anyone got problems with sendmail on debian ? |
| 08:07.52 | callan | Eulex: Ok, thanks |
| 08:07.55 | iKernel | #kernel is dead... |
| 08:08.10 | fourat | i have an error on sendmail : reject=421 4.3.2 Connection rate limit exceeded. |
| 08:08.10 | callan | Eulex: Is there a reason there's not? |
| 08:08.22 | fourat | i dont know where to act on the confs |
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| 08:09.11 | Dwonis | callan: did you try the instructions you get when you /msg dpkg install gnome |
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| 08:09.31 | callan | Nope, I'll try that |
| 08:09.36 | kevix | codenamewilly: I have a guess: (as root) 'modprobe sis;modprobe sis-agp'. then check /var/log/messages, then change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use 'sis' instead of 'vesa' |
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| 08:10.05 | callan | Thanks for the help |
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| 08:10.26 | sonasks | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:10.32 | sonasks | the command just laying there on terminal, noa ction on the drive |
| 08:10.42 | sonasks | no cpu or memory is taken by process.. |
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| 08:10.51 | lehel | hello |
| 08:10.55 | sonasks | and i cant`t even kill it :D |
| 08:10.59 | TraceGreenbaby | Hello, My C partition and D partiion is empty, after i use knoppix livecd, are there anyways to get data back? |
| 08:11.08 | TraceGreenbaby | My partitions is fat32. |
| 08:11.18 | kevix | sonasks: recheck the syntax. |
| 08:11.23 | TraceGreenbaby | and actually, i don't do anything about remove files. |
| 08:11.29 | lehel | i need assistance apt-geting a package >>> problem: http://pastebin.com/736628 |
| 08:11.47 | TraceGreenbaby | and then, although i use fdisk can check /dev/sda1, /dev/sda5, but i can not mount them anymore! |
| 08:12.00 | TraceGreenbaby | any ideas? I want to save my data! |
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| 08:13.19 | Eulex | TraceGreenbaby, we only support debian, we have no idea what knoppix made to your partitions |
| 08:13.24 | Eulex | !knoppix |
| 08:13.24 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. don't forget to ask me about <Based On Debian> |
| 08:13.47 | sonasks | ok, kill -9 don`t kill the process |
| 08:13.59 | sonasks | how can i kill it more EXPLICIT ? |
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| 08:14.53 | SlayerXP | sonasks: type "reboot" |
| 08:14.59 | sonasks | hehehe |
| 08:15.24 | servus | You can use kill -9/killall -9 to force the slaying of a process, if all else fails... |
| 08:17.09 | codenamewilly | kevix:I changes the xorg.conf file to use sis instead of vesa.......it did seem to respond to it but trying to get into the gui mode.but failed and now i see and error message "failed to initialize core devices.....etc etc" |
| 08:17.12 | sonasks | this dvd recording in shell is a pain int he ass |
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| 08:17.19 | codenamewilly | it seems to be a problem of the mouse |
| 08:17.22 | sonasks | dc were smooth |
| 08:17.26 | sonasks | cd |
| 08:17.39 | servus | sonasks: Have you tried k3b ? |
| 08:17.40 | codenamewilly | as it also says cannot open input device |
| 08:17.57 | lehel | i need assistance apt-geting a package >>> problem: http://pastebin.com/736628 |
| 08:17.59 | sonasks | but growisofs is making some dumb things, do`nt even bother to tell what, i can`t do anything with this drive now |
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| 08:18.27 | sonasks | forcing of anything is impossible, yhe kill -9 or even freaking killall -9 kill etc |
| 08:18.34 | sonasks | doesn`t do anything |
| 08:18.45 | codenamewilly | how do i configure my mouse for gui |
| 08:18.54 | sonasks | i used nero for linux on debian - works like a charm, but i don`t have X on the server |
| 08:19.10 | kevix | lehel: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354728 |
| 08:19.24 | Pook2 | !cpanel |
| 08:19.37 | sonasks | so now i`m forced to use this dumb dvdrwtools across wit the the growisofs |
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| 08:19.39 | kevix | codenamewilly: what kind of mouse, ps2, usb, serial? |
| 08:20.01 | sonasks | wchih is the royal piece of crap if you ask me |
| 08:20.12 | codenamewilly | ps2 |
| 08:20.14 | sonasks | thanky you for letting me out my frustration in here :D |
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| 08:20.47 | kevix | codenamewilly: try changing /dev/input/mice to /dev/psaux ? |
| 08:21.46 | sonasks | what if i just remove the file in the proc dir ?? |
| 08:21.52 | tuv | is the security repository rule for testing valid for other arch.s as well as x86? (just installed debian on nslu2 - arm) |
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| 08:22.19 | SubStack | hooray, rt2500 module working |
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| 08:22.31 | SubStack | no thanks to the debian build |
| 08:22.40 | kevix | tuv: that sounds like the plan! |
| 08:22.52 | SubStack | still, debian <3 |
| 08:22.56 | sonasks | yes yes ye sit worked |
| 08:23.15 | tuv | kevix, then why is it enabled by default? |
| 08:23.27 | sonasks | oh.. and killed eject, and hdparm and everything.. that`s so nice of him |
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| 08:23.53 | codenamewilly | kevix:cool it worked..thanks a zillion :) |
| 08:24.02 | chump | does anyone know a good program for uncompressing rars? |
| 08:24.12 | codenamewilly | now ill install xfs and see |
| 08:24.16 | kevix | chump: apt-cache search rar |
| 08:24.26 | junir | Hi, im having problems with debian. Problem has been posted here http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145845 |
| 08:24.41 | kevix | tuv: what was the question? |
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| 08:24.55 | blondie | junir: maybe you could summarise here |
| 08:24.58 | tuv | chump, unrar |
| 08:25.05 | theturtle | hey |
| 08:25.15 | junir | Im having trouble getting a solution. Is there anyway that I can log the boot process somewhere before debian loads |
| 08:25.38 | junir | blondie: the problem is quite big so I don't want to flood the channel |
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| 08:26.02 | blondie | junir: that's why I said summarise... people are more likely to help that way |
| 08:26.06 | codenamewilly | err i mean xfce4 lol |
| 08:26.07 | theturtle | i've got a script that just has about 15 lines that executes $@ on every machine whatever argument i send to it, using ssh eg., say 15 lines of ssh host $@ & |
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| 08:26.26 | tuv | kevix, it's usually said that security.debian.org is bad for testing.. is this true for x86 only or for all archs? |
| 08:26.29 | junir | When I install debian from scratch it boots into the command prompt without any problems. Then after two to three reboots or restarts it gets about as far as loading the init scripts and then it 'crashes'. Basically it justs throws out loads of what looks like hex at a rate I cannot keep up with |
| 08:26.50 | junir | The only way to stop this from happening is by reinstalling but the same problem occurs over and over again. I have tried installing from various different downloaded iso's but keep getting the same problem. |
| 08:26.54 | theturtle | for some reason this doesnn't work only about 1 or 2 of the machines actually run the command or, successfully run the command for that matter |
| 08:27.12 | junir | I have also tried Ubuntu and other distros and this problem does not occur with them |
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| 08:27.33 | cassoilo | hi all |
| 08:27.36 | theturtle | if i actually ssh into the machine and manually run the command, it works fine :s |
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| 08:27.57 | chump | thanks kevin and tuv |
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| 08:28.09 | chump | i forgot i have non-free sources now |
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| 08:29.10 | Eulex | codenamewilly, note that xfce in unstable is currently incomplete (because of the NEW queue being stuck) |
| 08:29.10 | cassoilo | since last time i installed debian locale for root defaults to en_US.UTF-8, but only when I am in X (xterm for instance) i did "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and set all to my native languange but still en_US.UTF-8 is set by default... can anyone help ? |
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| 08:29.58 | lehel | help: "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 08:29.58 | lehel | Error during linking |
| 08:29.58 | lehel | make: *** [mlnet] Error 2 |
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| 08:30.46 | kevix | tuv: in the past, there was no testing security, but with sarge, they added it, but for all the info, ask on a debian security list or the arm? list |
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| 08:31.32 | migiel | i've got a sata raid0 with two harddisks in my pc, but i lost lilo/grub, how can i get my pc to run again..? |
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| 08:32.05 | kevix | cassoilo: 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' you get a question to set the default locale. |
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| 08:32.34 | cassoilo | migiel: boot with a cd installer with 2.4 kernel , mount your root, and chroot to it then do your stuff |
| 08:32.41 | cassoilo | kevix: did that already |
| 08:32.56 | siimo | are packages for debian sid system compiled on an older system? |
| 08:33.05 | kevix | cassoilo: you can also override that by setting it in your .bashrc |
| 08:33.07 | migiel | cassoilo: can't i use a 2.6 kernel cd installer? |
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| 08:33.16 | valdyn | siimo: no |
| 08:33.31 | SubStack | junir: dmesg |
| 08:33.45 | Eulex | siimo, umh, no, they're compiled on debian sid systems. may have older kernels, though, but that doesn't affect anything. |
| 08:33.48 | cassoilo | migiel: 2.6 kernel cd installer did not work for me |
| 08:33.51 | siimo | valdyn: ok is there a way i can tell when a package was compiled |
| 08:33.57 | kevix | siimo: sid is where the most recently compiled version of a package is uploded. |
| 08:34.09 | migiel | cassoilo: ok, same problem here.. it keeps running the installer-program |
| 08:34.29 | cassoilo | kevix: the $LANG var still defaults to UTF |
| 08:34.31 | valdyn | !wayttd siimo |
| 08:34.32 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, siimo? |
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| 08:34.37 | siimo | cause i have a problem with new freetype2 version autohinting firefox that i compile.. but debians is fine.. |
| 08:34.40 | SubStack | never mind, that will only work if the kernel loads |
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| 08:35.13 | siimo | its also autohinting builds from mozilla.org that i can download and run |
| 08:35.26 | kevix | cassoilo: you can set it in .bashrc if you want to override it. or you can do 'LC_ALL=es_ES ls -l' for a single command |
| 08:35.32 | theturtle | is it true that when you execute a command remotely with ssh it doesn't run .login .profile or other env variables? ;s |
| 08:35.43 | valdyn | siimo: this is probably a firefox build issue |
| 08:35.44 | migiel | cassoilo: what command should i give when booting from the cd? "linux rescue" right? |
| 08:35.56 | cassoilo | migiel: F1 |
| 08:36.05 | valdyn | siimo: why are you building firefox yourself? |
| 08:36.09 | junir | Substack, unfortunately im only getting to init starting |
| 08:36.13 | Hatter | does someone know if which module I should use for SATA on Sarge with Intel's ICH2 ? |
| 08:36.27 | cassoilo | kevix: hmm... it's not very practical though :P |
| 08:36.28 | siimo | valdyn: so i can have the firefox icon in my taskbar & window title |
| 08:36.32 | valdyn | siimo: why dont you use the debian way to build firefox? |
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| 08:36.53 | valdyn | siimo: im not sure why the hell you would need to build firefox for that purpose |
| 08:36.53 | cassoilo | migiel: if i'm correct its, linux24 or rescue24 |
| 08:37.05 | SubStack | junir: that problem I can see would be that to log things, you need access to the hardware |
| 08:37.23 | migiel | cassoilo: yes, thx :) |
| 08:37.27 | SubStack | and mounting the disks is part of the init process |
| 08:37.27 | siimo | valdyn: well ive tried replacing the logos everywhere but it hasnt helped... with normal builds i know its just one location that you change the logo and it works |
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| 08:37.52 | junir | Substack: Im don't understand what you mean, I have access to the hardware |
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| 08:37.55 | siimo | i tried both /usr/lib/firefox/icons and /usr/share/firefox/icons |
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| 08:38.04 | kevix | cassoilo: is there anything in your .bashrc like LANG or LC_* |
| 08:38.19 | SubStack | scroll up with shift+up? |
| 08:38.21 | chump | does any one know how to use dvdauthor or mkisofs? |
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| 08:38.50 | valdyn | siimo: how's that icon file called? |
| 08:38.51 | junir | Substack: Its printint too much garble to the screen, impossible |
| 08:38.53 | cassoilo | kevix: nop... i think I have found the problem: "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" |
| 08:38.56 | valdyn | siimo: or uh, which filetype is it? |
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| 08:39.04 | siimo | valdyn: xpm |
| 08:39.06 | cassoilo | kevix: ... will investigate |
| 08:39.11 | tuv | chump, i think these two do very different things |
| 08:39.13 | SubStack | that is a very odd error at any rate |
| 08:39.19 | SubStack | anyhow, I need some sleep |
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| 08:39.33 | junir | Substack: Yep, thanks anyway |
| 08:39.41 | chump | see i'm trying to make a back up of a dvd movie and burn it |
| 08:39.46 | chump | i use dvdbackup to rip the movie |
| 08:39.58 | chump | then i use dvd+rw-tools to burn the iso |
| 08:40.04 | siimo | valdyn: i figured it out now i think |
| 08:40.05 | codenamewilly | Kevix:I have a pc which has intel 915 motherboard and and onbard gfx.Anyidea how to i get what driver is there for it.lspci shows intel hardware |
| 08:40.07 | chump | but how do i make image to burn with |
| 08:40.15 | siimo | yep :) |
| 08:40.15 | tuv | chump, you want to burn it as dvd video or an avi? |
| 08:40.19 | fwest | what is OFTC ? |
| 08:40.21 | chump | dvd video |
| 08:40.22 | valdyn | siimo: /usr/share/firefox/chrome/icons/default/default.xpm ? |
| 08:40.30 | siimo | yeah i changed that now and it works |
| 08:40.38 | chump | i have the video ts files on my hard drive(dvdbackup) |
| 08:40.43 | siimo | thanks |
| 08:40.44 | siimo | bye |
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| 08:40.52 | valdyn | siimo: dpkg -L fireofox | grep .xpm |
| 08:41.02 | kevix | codenamewilly: modprobe i915 |
| 08:41.10 | junir | chump: an irc network I think |
| 08:41.25 | tuv | chump, i haven't done this in a very long time.. but i guess you're right.. rip the dvd then re-author it |
| 08:41.37 | junir | soz I meant: fwest |
| 08:41.43 | codenamewilly | kevix:it says cant locate that module |
| 08:41.46 | fwest | i know that much |
| 08:41.47 | junir | fwest: irc network |
| 08:42.07 | junir | Open and free technology community |
| 08:42.11 | valdyn | chump: mkisofs -dvd-video -o file.img /path/to/dvd |
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| 08:42.23 | chump | thanks valdyn |
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| 08:42.42 | tuv | valdyn, does mkisofs author dvds? i didn't know of that |
| 08:42.46 | stallFan | hello |
| 08:42.53 | stallFan | i have a problem with a Toshiba USB stick on Debian Etch, while it works fine on Windows XP and it also works fine with a Knoppix LiveCD. could somebody please have a look at: http://paste.debian.net/6977 |
| 08:43.10 | cassoilo | kevix: apt-get install localeconf && dpkg-reconfigure localeconf did the trick :) |
| 08:43.22 | valdyn | tuv: no it doesnt, it just orders the contents of AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS to recreate a standard dvd |
| 08:43.23 | tuv | valdyn, or does it require a ready dvd-video file structure? |
| 08:43.32 | valdyn | tuv: exactly |
| 08:44.40 | kevix | codenamewilly: seems you may need the 'vesa' driver |
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| 08:44.54 | chump | mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. |
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| 08:44.58 | kevix | codenamewilly: did you have xorg 6.x or xfree86? |
| 08:45.04 | codenamewilly | no even the vesa module is not founf |
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| 08:45.05 | doojin | hi |
| 08:45.12 | codenamewilly | xfree |
| 08:45.14 | valdyn | chump: tell what exactly you're doing |
| 08:45.20 | doojin | Does debian have mplayer? |
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| 08:45.28 | kevix | codenamewilly: ok. |
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| 08:45.34 | chump | mkisofs -dvd-video -o file.img /home/chump/dvd/BOURNE_SUPREMACY/VIDEO_TS/ |
| 08:45.40 | iKernel | stallFan, What version was the kernel on the knoppix live cd? |
| 08:45.47 | kevix | codenamewilly: are you running sarge? |
| 08:45.54 | valdyn | chump: skip the VIDEO_TS, that is part of the image |
| 08:46.04 | valdyn | chump: mkisofs -dvd-video -o file.img /home/chump/dvd/BOURNE_SUPREMACY |
| 08:46.10 | codenamewilly | kevix:yes sarge |
| 08:46.13 | doojin | Somebody answer me |
| 08:46.18 | chump | chump:/home/chump/dvd/BOURNE_SUPREMACY/VIDEO_TS# mkisofs -dvd-video -o bourn.img /home/chump/dvd/BOURNE_SUPREMACY/ |
| 08:46.18 | chump | mkisofs: No such file or directory. Faild to open /home/chump/dvd/BOURNE_SUPREMACY//VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO |
| 08:46.18 | chump | mkisofs: Can't open VMG info for '/home/chump/dvd/BOURNE_SUPREMACY/'. |
| 08:46.18 | chump | mkisofs: Unable to parse DVD-Video structures. |
| 08:46.18 | chump | mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. |
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| 08:46.26 | theturtle | if i'm doing remote code execution |
| 08:46.32 | chump | did you get that |
| 08:46.33 | theturtle | with ssh |
| 08:46.44 | iKernel | doojin, not sure, but you can eaisly compile it from source |
| 08:46.50 | theturtle | is there any way to give environment variables or :s |
| 08:46.55 | valdyn | chump: yea, looks like your backup of the dvd isnt ok |
| 08:46.56 | chump | let me paste it in pasteitbin |
| 08:47.08 | kevix | codenamewilly: check this: http://sans.nada.kth.se/~orjan/D410.html |
| 08:47.29 | valdyn | chump: i always have an AUDIOS_TS there too ( jsut make it) but i belieev that is not required |
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| 08:47.31 | chump | http://debian.pastebin.com/736673 |
| 08:47.42 | valdyn | AUDIO_TS even |
| 08:47.45 | iKernel | stallFan, What version was the kernel on the knoppix live cd? |
| 08:48.12 | valdyn | chump: it said 'no such file or directory' |
| 08:48.14 | stallFan | iKernel, 2.6.12 |
| 08:48.20 | valdyn | chump: that is your wrong path to the dvd? |
| 08:48.30 | chump | i think so because it says |
| 08:48.35 | iKernel | doojin, have a look at http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/mplayer.html |
| 08:48.46 | chump | has the double // in front of video-ts |
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| 08:49.01 | chump | thats why i put /video-ts |
| 08:49.30 | iKernel | stallFan, try kernel 2.6.16 |
| 08:49.30 | valdyn | chump: cd /home/chump/dvd/BOURNE_SUPREMACY/ |
| 08:49.44 | valdyn | chump: then run 'mkisofs -dvd-video -o file.img ./ |
| 08:49.46 | chump | i'm there |
| 08:49.48 | valdyn | chump: then run 'mkisofs -dvd-video -o file.img ./' |
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| 08:50.04 | stallFan | iKernel, that is no solution to the problem, really. |
| 08:50.07 | chump | mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. |
| 08:50.23 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:50.24 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:50.28 | valdyn | chump: is it AUDIO_TS or audio_ts? |
| 08:50.31 | tarzeau | kevix: how would i know? |
| 08:50.32 | valdyn | chump: caps matter |
| 08:50.47 | valdyn | chump: probably same for all files in there, all should be in caps |
| 08:50.55 | chump | i don't have an audio ts |
| 08:51.05 | valdyn | chump: video_ts too |
| 08:51.07 | kevix | tarzeau: I never know who is the captain of this ship x-) |
| 08:51.13 | tarzeau | !owner |
| 08:51.14 | dpkg | dondelelcaro owns me |
| 08:51.18 | chump | its VIDEO-TS |
| 08:51.24 | tarzeau | apt owner |
| 08:51.25 | apt | TimRiker is my owner |
| 08:51.26 | valdyn | chump: underscore? |
| 08:51.29 | chump | yeah |
| 08:51.36 | chump | i copied it right from the CLI |
| 08:51.46 | chump | when i CD'ed to the dir |
| 08:51.46 | codenamewilly | kevix: Actually lspci shows the complete information as VGA comatable controller:Intel corp 82915g/gv/910gl express chipset family craphich controller (rev 04)............. |
| 08:51.48 | kevix | tarzeau: okdokey! |
| 08:51.49 | valdyn | chump: a - isnt an underscore |
| 08:52.03 | chump | yeah i know |
| 08:52.06 | codenamewilly | kevix:dosent that mean some module for gfx is present |
| 08:52.16 | chump | where did i put one that i should have? |
| 08:52.22 | valdyn | chump: ok, if you're not doing typos then the dvd directory tree is broken |
| 08:52.43 | valdyn | chump: you just typed VIDEO-TS where it's VIDEO_TS |
| 08:52.47 | chump | ok how would i rip the dvd using dvdbackup |
| 08:52.57 | chump | oh sorry |
| 08:53.25 | valdyn | chump: i dont know, dvdbackup ough to create a proper tree |
| 08:53.39 | chump | shoot |
| 08:53.43 | chump | thanks for your help |
| 08:53.54 | kevix | codenamewilly: did you use 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and try to use the 'vesa' driver? |
| 08:53.56 | valdyn | chump: ripping works too like 'cat /dev/dvd > file.img' |
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| 08:54.43 | liable | k9copy?? |
| 08:54.51 | kevix | codenamewilly: your best bet maybe to look at backports.org and get the x.org for sarge |
| 08:54.58 | Dwonis | valdyn: unless the disc is CSS-crippled |
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| 08:55.01 | chump | dvdbackup -F -i/dev/dvd -o/home/chump/dvd |
| 08:55.06 | chump | thats what i used to rip it |
| 08:55.07 | deadcat | hows the bcm43xx-source? |
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| 08:55.34 | valdyn | Dwonis: why would css prevent reading the raw data? |
| 08:55.41 | codenamewilly | kevix:dpkg-reconfigure does not work |
| 08:55.52 | liable | how |
| 08:56.11 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: have you tried the bcm43xx-source yet? |
| 08:56.13 | Dwonis | valdyn: technically, it doesn't, but the CSS keys are stored out-of-band, so you'd have to crack them, which takes a while (but is still doable) |
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| 08:56.42 | kevix | codenamewilly: you did install 'x-window-system' ? |
| 08:56.56 | codenamewilly | kevix:yup |
| 08:56.59 | valdyn | Dwonis: i see, i always crack anyway |
| 08:57.28 | Dwonis | valdyn: if you use something like vobcopy, it'll decrypt the files for you |
| 08:57.39 | valdyn | chump: maybe you should have specific -M for dvdbackup |
| 08:58.06 | liable | dont you actually need to decrypt it to read it anyway? |
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| 08:59.01 | Dwonis | liable: yeah, but I think libdvdread will just brute-force the keys for you if css-auth fails |
| 08:59.22 | valdyn | Dwonis: exactly, that's why i never bother with css or decryption |
| 09:00.01 | Dwonis | valdyn: how long does the cracking take on your machine, assuming the keys aren't cached in ~/.dvdcss ? |
| 09:00.14 | valdyn | Dwonis: few seconds |
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| 09:00.25 | Dwonis | valdyn: heh. you must be blessed with a fast computer |
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| 09:01.25 | part_hard | how manny of these bots are real |
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| 09:02.04 | chump | i don't have a double layer burner |
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| 09:02.12 | valdyn | chump: just backuped a dvd with dvdbackup and started mkisofs, specifying -M worked fine |
| 09:02.25 | valdyn | chump: dvdbackup -M |
| 09:02.30 | kevix | codenamewilly: your sarge install seems like its missing things? |
| 09:02.38 | chump | doesn't M back up the entire dvd? |
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| 09:02.45 | valdyn | chump: yes sure |
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| 09:03.12 | chump | but how would i burn it? |
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| 09:03.41 | Hatter | i have put libata and ata_piix in /etc/modules but when it boots it says error 432 cannot find /dev/console I am not seeing the libata module on boot, should I see it try before the error even if it's the wrong module ? |
| 09:04.08 | tralala | chump: if it's more than 4gigs you need to shrink it first. There is a windows software called dvdshrink. I use that in combination with wine. |
| 09:04.12 | valdyn | chump: if the image is to big you have to shrink it or reauthor it |
| 09:04.59 | chump | dang it |
| 09:05.01 | migiel | are there anymore people around that can't install grub and/or lilo while installing via net-install? |
| 09:05.28 | valdyn | chump: xdvdshrink and k9copy are both in debian / sid |
| 09:05.56 | junir | funny, theres a bad review of vista beta 2 on the MSNBC site. Its a wonder MS haven't taken it down |
| 09:06.24 | liable | ooh, this is good timing, i am viviting my folks and theres one particular dvd they cant rip. erm, backup. |
| 09:06.27 | valdyn | junir: im not so sure that review is bad |
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| 09:06.45 | junir | valdyn: have you read it? |
| 09:07.02 | valdyn | junir: since Vista doesnt run on a broken laptop but gets predicted to have good driver support |
| 09:07.25 | valdyn | junir: yea, its mostly bullshit written by someone lazy or stupid |
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| 09:08.05 | netsurf3 | hmm apm on 2.6 kernel seems to work for first event then cut working |
| 09:08.10 | netsurf3 | have i missed something? |
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| 09:09.09 | valdyn | junir: maybe the target audience could read this as a bad review, for me its just to much nonsense to take serious |
| 09:09.09 | junir | Doesn't say anything about good driver support "Also, the built-in audio and wireless connectivity devices don’t work. I do have an 802.11b/g PC card that was recognized by the system." |
| 09:09.11 | part_hard | lmao |
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| 09:09.42 | valdyn | junir: that IS him noticing that windows vista beta does not have drivers for his wireless |
| 09:09.47 | netsurf3 | be nice if vista failed badly |
| 09:09.57 | netsurf3 | then linux had a better chance |
| 09:10.05 | mariusx | I am thinking for downloading the Install for installing Debian. on the debian web site though there are may iso's binary 1 etc, do I need to download each numbered iso? |
| 09:10.10 | netsurf3 | *would have |
| 09:10.14 | valdyn | junir: or not have working drivers, same difference |
| 09:10.20 | netsurf3 | you can do a ftp install |
| 09:10.42 | junir | I know but it doesn't say anything about predicting good driver support. Im sure it WILL be quite good but it doesn't mention that |
| 09:10.57 | migiel | i've installed debian via the newest net-install cd for 386, but it seems that grub can't install itself, because there is no /boot map created.. am i doing something wrong here? |
| 09:11.01 | mariusx | yeah I know but I have a few computers to install it on once I have it working the way I want |
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| 09:12.50 | valdyn | junir: sure its there 'By the time it is released early in 007, it's likely Vista will be a ot more stable on any hardware you can throw its way. ' |
| 09:13.18 | tralala | mariusx: it depends on what do you want to have installed. The lowest numbers contain the most popular software. |
| 09:13.21 | valdyn | junir: not steve ballmer himself would be THAT optimistic |
| 09:13.54 | litage | what's the difference between the "auth" and "authpriv" syslog facilities? |
| 09:14.04 | chump | i run sarge |
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| 09:14.11 | chump | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.16 | chump | but my internet blows |
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| 09:14.43 | kevix | mariusx: if you have good net speed, use the net-install, if not, get the first 2 or 3 CD ISO's (they contain the most used software) |
| 09:14.44 | mariusx | so each number may have a larger size? |
| 09:14.48 | netsurf3 | get installation media then? |
| 09:15.05 | junir | Aaahh, I didn't see the end under the ad |
| 09:15.11 | chump | a lot of the times i can't open my Cdrom |
| 09:15.13 | valdyn | litage: stuff not entirely safe to be seen by users i guess |
| 09:15.14 | chump | i try and unmount it |
| 09:15.23 | chump | and it says its not mounted |
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| 09:15.26 | valdyn | litage: though syslog just isnt user - readable on debian anyway |
| 09:15.47 | valdyn | litage: nor is auth.log |
| 09:16.18 | mariusx | thanks ppl. this channel is awesome |
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| 09:16.40 | litage | thanks valdyn |
| 09:16.44 | valdyn | litage: so debian's syslog treats both as unsafe by default |
| 09:17.01 | jcdubacq | hello! |
| 09:17.12 | jcdubacq | Question to all people that underwent the Xorg |
| 09:17.27 | jcdubacq | 6.9 -> 7 transition: should I rm -rf /usr/X11R6? |
| 09:18.01 | valdyn | jcdubacq: is it empty? |
| 09:18.30 | valdyn | jcdubacq: there STILL is packages that place files in there |
| 09:18.42 | valdyn | jcdubacq: libxaw8 being one |
| 09:18.59 | jcdubacq | ok. There are also some PCF font files |
| 09:19.35 | jcdubacq | So I'll leave it alone for now. Most of the other files are generated ones (font caches) that should probably be removed |
| 09:20.39 | liable | hrm, libdvdread doesnt seem to be able to crack this one either. |
| 09:21.08 | valdyn | liable: isnt it libdvdcss that cracks? do you have it? |
| 09:21.13 | valdyn | !libdvdcss |
| 09:21.14 | dpkg | from memory, libdvdcss is NOT in debian - those who even utter its name can expect to be shipped to Guantanamo Bay. for filthy patent-free europeans, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/README.Debian or run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread?/examples/install-css.sh, or see <marillat> |
| 09:21.36 | liable | valdyn: yeah, just installed it, but it says libdvdread. |
| 09:21.46 | liable | libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB (0x0007584d) |
| 09:22.07 | valdyn | liable: i see, never tried cracking a VOB file, just disks |
| 09:22.50 | liable | valdyn: hrm, i am just using dvdbackup -M as you previously suggested. |
| 09:23.04 | liable | dvdbackup -vv -i /dev/hdc -M -o /home/linux/ |
| 09:23.05 | valdyn | liable: i see |
| 09:23.36 | valdyn | liable: no idea, have issues playing anything with mplayer, dont really use anything else |
| 09:23.43 | valdyn | liable: no idea, _never_ have issues playing anything with mplayer, dont really use anything else |
| 09:23.49 | liable | though it seems to be ok now, after that initial error |
| 09:24.14 | tralala | liable: does mplayer play it? |
| 09:24.30 | valdyn | liable: that may be, mplayer used to get stuck sometimes on my sarge system on first time playback, but i havent seen that in a while |
| 09:24.57 | liable | tralala: will try when it either errors or finishes. |
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| 09:25.07 | liable | valdyn: will try mplayer in a sec |
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| 09:25.26 | liable | hrm, ok it failed the read. |
| 09:25.31 | valdyn | liable: now you probably already have the key in ~/.dvdcss |
| 09:25.38 | valdyn | liable: or not. |
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| 09:26.30 | liable | ok, the movies starts |
| 09:26.52 | tralala | so it's decrypted |
| 09:27.04 | tralala | try dvdbackup again |
| 09:27.46 | liable | hrm, but i only seem to get the extra bits. no menu for main movie.? |
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| 09:28.08 | tralala | liable: mplayer doesn't support menus yet |
| 09:28.22 | liable | oh doesnt it? |
| 09:28.59 | liable | anyway, ill try dvdbackup again |
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| 09:30.03 | tralala | liable: nevertheless you can play the main movie with dvd://<number> |
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| 09:31.17 | liable | tralala: yeah its played the movie in the end. i must be going mad, cause i thought i had seen menus before. i dont usually watch dvds on my box, normally only .avi's |
| 09:31.31 | netsurf3 | hey guys how does one configure fluxbox/startup |
| 09:31.44 | bintut | installing flashplugin-nonfree requires libruby, libruby1.8, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, ruby, ruby1.8? |
| 09:32.56 | liable | bintut: no |
| 09:33.09 | liable | not on my box anyway.. |
| 09:33.48 | bintut | liable: then why is it required those packages when i just did an aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree? :( |
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| 09:34.16 | liable | bintut: no idea. what else did you install? |
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| 09:34.26 | bintut | liable: nothing.. |
| 09:34.31 | liable | !info flashplugin-nonfree |
| 09:34.33 | dpkg | flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section contrib/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.63.3 (sid), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 132 kB |
| 09:34.43 | liable | !depends flashplugin-nonfree |
| 09:34.44 | dpkg | flashplugin-nonfree: depends on debconf | debconf-2.0, gsfonts-x11 |
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| 09:34.58 | stoned | goodmorning |
| 09:35.05 | bintut | liable: then why on my box? i'm using sarge i386 here.. |
| 09:35.13 | liable | !depends flashplugin-nonfree sarge |
| 09:35.18 | dpkg | flashplugin-nonfree: depends on ruby, debconf, libruby (>= 1.6.7-3) |
| 09:35.34 | liable | bintut: ah, seems sarge one does. :) |
| 09:35.35 | tralala | hmm, how interesting |
| 09:35.52 | liable | seems a bit strange |
| 09:35.55 | tralala | I wonder what could be the relationship between ruby and flash |
| 09:36.08 | bintut | liable: yeah.. i don't think it should be the case |
| 09:36.20 | bintut | tralala: you got it |
| 09:37.00 | liable | hrm, seems dvdbackup worked this time. |
| 09:37.07 | liable | no errors anyway |
| 09:37.07 | theturtle | anyone know the proper syntax for backing up a folder with rsync |
| 09:37.15 | theturtle | but yet not replacing any directories or files on destination |
| 09:37.43 | chump | is there an X version of mplayer? |
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| 09:37.53 | theturtle | gmplayer |
| 09:38.10 | chump | thanks |
| 09:38.24 | stoned | also kplayer & kmpolayer |
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| 09:38.31 | stoned | also kplayer & kmplayer |
| 09:38.46 | stoned | frontecds for mplayere |
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| 09:39.06 | tralala | !fix stoned |
| 09:39.20 | stoned | this keyboard sucks |
| 09:39.22 | bintut | theturtle: you should install rsnapshot <http://www.rsnapshot.org> |
| 09:39.26 | chump | i'm having trouble installing flash and having it work for firefox is there a setting or another package i need? |
| 09:39.41 | bintut | !info rsnapshot |
| 09:39.47 | dpkg | rsnapshot: (local and remote filesystem snapshot utility), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-1.1 (sid), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 400 kB |
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| 09:42.01 | stoned | chump, did you install flashplayer-mozilla |
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| 09:42.23 | stoned | am I lagging |
| 09:42.59 | netsurf3 | anyone know how i can set fluxbox to use a startup file from my ~/.fluxbox/startup |
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| 09:43.50 | streuner | why not using xsession? |
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| 09:44.19 | Ronin | netsurf3: have you tried the fluxbox docs or thier channel? |
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| 09:44.45 | netsurf3 | it should be simply just making the file in the directory |
| 09:44.50 | netsurf3 | but that didnt work in sarge |
| 09:45.05 | netsurf3 | would it work in etch do you think? |
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| 09:45.11 | netsurf3 | (i am running etch) |
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| 09:45.33 | streuner | !xession |
| 09:45.40 | streuner | dpkg, xsession |
| 09:45.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
| 09:45.43 | Ronin | so that would be a no then netsurf3 |
| 09:46.00 | Ronin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.02 | netsurf3 | correct :d |
| 09:46.10 | netsurf3 | ........... |
| 09:46.15 | Ronin | is that what your after? or am i not awake enough yet |
| 09:46.19 | netsurf3 | I HAVE BEEN LOOKINF FOR THAT FILE |
| 09:46.21 | netsurf3 | :( |
| 09:46.33 | netsurf3 | the xinitrc is no good |
| 09:46.42 | streuner | works fine here :-) |
| 09:46.51 | streuner | exec fluxbox |
| 09:47.00 | streuner | gkrellm & |
| 09:47.03 | netsurf3 | yeah but that only loads one window manager then |
| 09:47.09 | netsurf3 | i use gdm too |
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| 09:47.17 | stoned | I use start |
| 09:47.19 | stoned | starx* |
| 09:47.21 | chump | stoned thanks i was thinking thats what i needed |
| 09:47.22 | netsurf3 | i guessed |
| 09:47.26 | stoned | goddamit I am going to stop typiong |
| 09:47.32 | stoned | oy good lord this keyboard is pissing me off |
| 09:47.36 | netsurf3 | hehe |
| 09:47.50 | netsurf3 | send it to dev/null :) |
| 09:48.06 | stoned | netsurf3, is there a reason why you are using fluxbox? |
| 09:48.10 | netsurf3 | yep |
| 09:48.15 | stoned | what is it? |
| 09:48.15 | netsurf3 | it is an old laptop |
| 09:48.19 | stoned | how old? |
| 09:48.20 | netsurf3 | and i like fluxbox |
| 09:48.24 | Ronin | stoned: its the best out there ;) |
| 09:48.30 | netsurf3 | stoned: it is a pentinum 1 |
| 09:48.31 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yes, it doesn't work on 2.6.16 |
| 09:48.42 | netsurf3 | dell latitued LT |
| 09:48.50 | netsurf3 | dell latitude LT |
| 09:48.59 | sonasks | jesus.. |
| 09:49.04 | netsurf3 | yeah |
| 09:49.10 | netsurf3 | so you see my point |
| 09:49.10 | sonasks | it says that /dev/hdc: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0 |
| 09:49.15 | netsurf3 | ohh |
| 09:49.18 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 09:49.20 | sonasks | :D |
| 09:49.26 | stoned | netsurf3, well I was going to suggest the xfce4.0 packages from sarge distribution. Very highly stable, and barely more resource consuming than fluxbox. It is quite minimal, |
| 09:49.28 | streuner | what |
| 09:49.42 | sonasks | xfce rocks |
| 09:49.49 | streuner | whats the problem if blootbot can do factoids, but not cmd's? |
| 09:49.49 | netsurf3 | stoned how big is it? |
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| 09:49.54 | sonasks | but dvd burning raleey grinds my gears |
| 09:50.02 | stoned | netsurf3, total installation is about 24mb |
| 09:50.04 | stoned | afaik |
| 09:50.07 | netsurf3 | nice |
| 09:50.09 | stoned | that is withougt the goodies |
| 09:50.12 | netsurf3 | i have space |
| 09:50.19 | stoned | might be 36-40 MAX with everything xfce installed |
| 09:50.20 | netsurf3 | installing..... |
| 09:50.43 | stoned | netsurf3, this way you don't have to dig into fluxbox configurations, unless you want to |
| 09:50.46 | insidius | Are there any advantages to compiling my own kernel? |
| 09:50.50 | wy | Is there a system call that I can use to monitor the system load? |
| 09:51.03 | stoned | insidius, you get to strip down and customize the kernel for YOUR hardware |
| 09:51.07 | stoned | makes it better imo |
| 09:51.27 | insidius | I take it that this is something that should not be done by a noob then? |
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| 09:51.32 | insidius | Not that im a total noob or anything |
| 09:51.33 | stoned | stock kernels are grand, but custom is where the fun is |
| 09:51.55 | netsurf3 | heh |
| 09:51.56 | stoned | insidius, well, you can always try it, but don't remove the other one. Keep another 386 kernel handy to boot with |
| 09:51.58 | liable | hrm, seems the fucker didnt rip properly after all. :( |
| 09:52.08 | netsurf3 | :(( |
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| 09:52.12 | insidius | Thank you stoned, thats exactly what i was after |
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| 09:52.33 | stoned | insidius, you are welcome |
| 09:52.37 | netsurf3 | lol |
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| 09:53.04 | insidius | hehe i just quit my job so now i can start playing with the box i was using for work, and make it do fun stuff! |
| 09:53.21 | netsurf3 | :) |
| 09:53.26 | netsurf3 | why did you quit? |
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| 09:53.43 | insidius | Another company bought us out and I did not want to move across the country to keep my job |
| 09:53.49 | netsurf3 | i see |
| 09:53.54 | stoned | lol, I just realized I have 1500$ in my account and I wont' last more than 1 more month. I am in desperate need a job |
| 09:54.05 | stoned | anyjob, fastfood, pc repair, networking, fastfood, I don't care |
| 09:54.06 | stoned | ;) |
| 09:54.10 | netsurf3 | hmm |
| 09:54.13 | insidius | heh |
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| 09:54.26 | insidius | Im gonna take a couple of weeks break before i pickup another job |
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| 09:54.36 | netsurf3 | stoned: what is the apt-get package name of xfce |
| 09:54.37 | stoned | I took a 6 month break |
| 09:54.49 | stoned | netman1, apt-cache search xfce |
| 09:54.50 | streuner | !tell netsurf3 about search |
| 09:54.57 | stoned | oops |
| 09:54.59 | liable | oh, man it hard not to say something silly. |
| 09:55.03 | stoned | yeh what streuner/dpkg said |
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| 09:55.12 | insidius | apt-cache search what_you_are_searching_for |
| 09:55.37 | stoned | I find it handy to make aliases in .bashrc |
| 09:55.56 | stoned | alias search='sudo apt-cache search' |
| 09:55.57 | stoned | etc. |
| 09:56.02 | stoned | make some for everything else |
| 09:56.03 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 09:56.08 | netsurf3 | way off 20mb |
| 09:56.13 | netsurf3 | it is 56.6mb |
| 09:56.16 | netsurf3 | :/ |
| 09:56.25 | streuner | dondelelcaro: how much RAM do you have available on the box (dpkg)? |
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| 09:56.36 | stoned | netsurf3, its been years since I used it |
| 09:56.44 | netsurf3 | i see |
| 09:56.50 | liable | heh, prolly 16 MG on an old pII |
| 09:56.51 | netsurf3 | what is its main selling point? |
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| 09:57.28 | stoned | netsurf3, its not a window manager, its a full desktop manager, but it is minimal |
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| 09:57.40 | netsurf3 | i see |
| 09:57.48 | stoned | netsurf3, do apt-get install xfce4 on sarge |
| 09:57.51 | netsurf3 | so i get nice filebrowser and that jaz |
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| 09:58.00 | stoned | then tell me how much it wants to download and how much it wants to expand it to |
| 09:58.01 | stoned | I forgot |
| 09:58.08 | streuner | netsurf3: gentoo ;-) |
| 09:58.09 | liable | no, xfce file browser sucks ass |
| 09:58.17 | netsurf3 | i got rox |
| 09:58.21 | streuner | netsurf3: apt-get install gentoo |
| 09:58.21 | netsurf3 | that will surfice |
| 09:58.24 | formorer | mc |
| 09:58.24 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 09:58.25 | formorer | :) |
| 09:58.26 | stoned | gentoo is good, rox is good, xfm is badass |
| 09:58.27 | stoned | ;) |
| 09:58.34 | netsurf3 | haha |
| 09:58.41 | streuner | dpkg, start a filemanager war |
| 09:58.46 | netsurf3 | gentoo is a distro though :S |
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| 09:58.57 | liable | i have rox, but i do actually sem to use mc just about all the time |
| 09:58.58 | streuner | no |
| 09:58.58 | stoned | netsurf3, it is also the name of a filemanager |
| 09:59.02 | streuner | !info gentoo |
| 09:59.04 | formorer | netsurf3: no, the have stolen the name :) |
| 09:59.05 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.55-1 (sid), Packaged size: 771 kB, Installed size: 2444 kB |
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| 09:59.14 | netsurf3 | :O |
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| 09:59.24 | brownie17 | gentoo sucks |
| 09:59.28 | netsurf3 | that must be confusing |
| 09:59.33 | liable | mc is the bestest |
| 09:59.37 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 09:59.43 | netsurf3 | if you like ncurses |
| 09:59.46 | brownie17 | rox is a peice of crap and xfm has got nothing on gnome 1 |
| 09:59.56 | liable | !lart brownie17 |
| 10:00.09 | netsurf3 | yeah but gnome has a shit file manager :S |
| 10:00.28 | stoned | enough! |
| 10:00.30 | brownie17 | netsurf3, who uses it? most people just use console anyway |
| 10:00.33 | insidius | Hmm i might install fluxbox, looks good |
| 10:00.36 | stoned | get back to debian support and not wm wars |
| 10:00.38 | netsurf3 | everything else i like about gome |
| 10:00.59 | stoned | or fm wars for that matter or any wars |
| 10:01.00 | brownie17 | kde is a complete peice of. can't customise it at all, and gnome is heaps customisable but ti doesn't look good |
| 10:01.02 | liable | hrm, what else can i use to back up a dvd other than dvdbackup? |
| 10:01.08 | chump | i'm having trouble skipping through quick time files |
| 10:01.11 | sonasks | what umask do i need to set, to let the ftp user download the files that he doesn`t own ? |
| 10:01.12 | stoned | make love, not war, condoms are much cheaper than bombs |
| 10:01.13 | stoned | :/ |
| 10:01.14 | brownie17 | liable, fight starting is fun :D |
| 10:01.19 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 10:01.21 | insidius | lol stoned |
| 10:01.26 | liable | shuddup |
| 10:01.29 | brownie17 | streuner, i'm doing my best to start a way |
| 10:01.32 | netsurf3 | stoned: yeah true condoms are free |
| 10:01.34 | dorel_ | there's no php5 module for apache2? |
| 10:01.39 | netsurf3 | but what about a condom war? |
| 10:01.42 | brownie17 | netsurf3, free? |
| 10:01.43 | dorel_ | sorry for the unrelated question |
| 10:01.53 | formorer | dorel_: there is, but not in stable |
| 10:01.53 | netsurf3 | brownie17: they are here |
| 10:01.56 | formorer | dorel_: use bpo |
| 10:02.09 | brownie17 | netsurf3, where's here? |
| 10:02.12 | netsurf3 | uk |
| 10:02.14 | streuner | netsurf3: /msg dpkg (listkeys, listvals) condom |
| 10:02.18 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 10:02.39 | stoned | dorel_, are you on stable? |
| 10:02.47 | netsurf3 | i'm unstable |
| 10:02.50 | netsurf3 | mentaly only |
| 10:02.56 | brownie17 | netsurf3, wow, your government must hate you guys more than the rest of the world |
| 10:03.01 | netsurf3 | lol |
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| 10:03.12 | netsurf3 | i think it maybe only to teens actualy |
| 10:03.31 | brownie17 | netsurf3, really? so adults have to pay for them? |
| 10:03.36 | sonasks | ok, guys, really - what is the best way to burn dvd-R under linux |
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| 10:03.39 | sonasks | from commandline |
| 10:03.43 | brownie17 | netsurf3, they're gonna take you out one generation at a time |
| 10:03.47 | netsurf3 | ive really no idea how it works |
| 10:03.47 | sonasks | beside growisofs |
| 10:03.49 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 10:03.58 | chump | condoms are free in america also |
| 10:04.04 | netsurf3 | but i know there have been people getting them for free |
| 10:04.09 | stoned | every human is born with certain rights. The basic rights of freedom. All a gov. does is take away from those freedoms. America is the only country in the world, that takes FULL credit for giving you (the illusion) the freedoms you were already born with. |
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| 10:04.18 | brownie17 | netsurf3, you sound like you've been taking a leaf out of stoned's book! |
| 10:04.23 | dorel_ | stoned, yep |
| 10:04.32 | netsurf3 | which one |
| 10:04.36 | insidius | woah stoned pulling out the big guns |
| 10:04.40 | netsurf3 | psyco 101 |
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| 10:05.02 | stoned | I would personally like to see the constitution reformed, but this is #debian |
| 10:05.03 | netsurf3 | OMG |
| 10:05.07 | netsurf3 | flashing mouse |
| 10:05.09 | netsurf3 | WOOO |
| 10:05.41 | chump | i'm having trouble skipping through quick time files is there a package for fixing this? |
| 10:06.02 | petemc | chump: a different movie player perhaps |
| 10:06.38 | chump | whats a good one? |
| 10:06.39 | stoned | chump, mplayer does it all, and does it well |
| 10:06.44 | stoned | chump, install w32codecs + mplayer |
| 10:06.47 | chump | cause Mplayer isn't supproted for my video card |
| 10:06.52 | insidius | ? |
| 10:07.01 | chump | thats what it told me |
| 10:07.07 | insidius | What video card? |
| 10:07.11 | stoned | chump, #mplayer |
| 10:07.25 | chump | Nvidia Ti 4600 |
| 10:07.32 | chump | its older like 2 years old |
| 10:07.35 | chump | too cheap to buy a new one |
| 10:07.35 | petemc | chump: there are various video output options for mplayer, likely one of them would work for you |
| 10:07.52 | petemc | it works fine on a 5 year old geforce of mine |
| 10:07.53 | stoned | chump, try mplayer -vo xv filename.ext |
| 10:08.02 | stoned | on command line, see if that works |
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| 10:08.47 | chump | Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. |
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| 10:09.03 | chump | how do i change the video out put? |
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| 10:09.24 | petemc | mplayer -vo help |
| 10:09.28 | stoned | with -vo or right click gmplayer window, go into preferences and then click the video tab |
| 10:10.11 | stoned | the colored ascii output is rather fun :) |
| 10:10.18 | embrik | I want to connect to one machine on my network at home. It's ip-adresse is 217-100-164. I try fish://ipadresse in konqueror and I try ssh root@ipadresse in konsoll. It doesn't work. What do I do wrong? |
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| 10:11.19 | petemc | embrik: thats not enough digits for an ip.. |
| 10:11.20 | embrik | The machine I am sitting at is on the same network. |
| 10:11.22 | liable | valdyn: what else do you suggest to rip dvd's? |
| 10:11.24 | stoned | embrik, ip == 4 octets not three |
| 10:11.33 | netsurf3 | hmm |
| 10:11.37 | stoned | well, ipv4* |
| 10:11.45 | netsurf3 | xfce is exactly what i am looking for |
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| 10:11.51 | netsurf3 | bit of eye candy |
| 10:11.55 | stoned | netsurf3, most people usually say that |
| 10:12.01 | netsurf3 | but low consomption |
| 10:12.21 | stoned | netsurf3, xfce4.3.9-1(4.4 beta) is even more badass |
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| 10:12.33 | netsurf3 | need to work out why my hd has been accessed constantly for 3min |
| 10:13.39 | liable | pwned? :P |
| 10:13.48 | stoned | liable, ? |
| 10:13.56 | liable | stoned: ?? |
| 10:14.01 | netsurf3 | !huet liable |
| 10:14.06 | netsurf3 | !hurt liable |
| 10:14.11 | liable | ohnos |
| 10:14.14 | embrik | I know, but i'm on the same network as the machine I'm trying to connect to, an this thre first digits seems to be the computers name |
| 10:14.33 | netsurf3 | !hurt stoned |
| 10:14.36 | netsurf3 | :) |
| 10:14.38 | netsurf3 | sorted |
| 10:14.40 | stoned | netsurf3, stop abusing the bot |
| 10:14.45 | brownie17 | ! hurt me |
| 10:14.52 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 10:14.55 | brownie17 | this is fun! :D |
| 10:15.06 | cahoot | indeed |
| 10:15.13 | brownie17 | stoned, you're just bitter because you got anvilled |
| 10:15.21 | netsurf3 | yeah heh |
| 10:15.22 | stoned | embrik, can you ping the ip? |
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| 10:15.41 | stoned | embrik, what does it tell you if you do ssh user@host |
| 10:15.59 | stoned | does it give you a prompt to accept the ssh key first then give you a login prompt or not |
| 10:16.28 | netsurf3 | hmm |
| 10:16.31 | embrik | stoned: sudo ssh root@193-216-128-112 |
| 10:16.31 | embrik | ssh: 193-216-128-112: Name or service not known |
| 10:16.36 | netsurf3 | i need to run a startup command |
| 10:16.47 | stoned | embrik, you DO know what an ip address is right? |
| 10:16.49 | netsurf3 | so it will run when i start xfce |
| 10:16.58 | stoned | embrik, you don't have to run ssh as sudo |
| 10:17.07 | stoned | embrik, you can just use ssh root@host to login as root |
| 10:17.19 | cahoot | you don't log in as root |
| 10:17.25 | embrik | stoned: yes, of course, sorry, I forgot to use dots ... |
| 10:17.58 | stoned | cahoot, you can, but its usually not good practice. |
| 10:18.01 | cahoot | embrik: of course you disable root logins |
| 10:18.13 | stoned | embrik, log into the remote machine with regular user, and then su/sudo to get your root work done |
| 10:19.03 | embrik | stoned: I know .... |
| 10:19.18 | cahoot | embrik: and if you only have a liited umber of potential users for ssh logins - list them as AllowUsers to effectively lockout all others |
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| 10:20.47 | embrik | cahoot: on my domestic network I'm the only user to use ssh. How do I lockout the others? |
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| 10:21.10 | cahoot | embrik: see above |
| 10:21.48 | embrik | cahoot: thanks |
| 10:21.50 | fluxdude | can I find the motherboard of a linux server via /proc or something? |
| 10:22.01 | cahoot | embrik: i e only the users listed there are allowed access - all others are locked out |
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| 10:23.17 | migiel | which texteditor can i use with a netinstall? vi doesnt work.. |
| 10:23.45 | embrik | cahoot: ok, no I'm going to empty my son's computer for data, in order to install a new debian-edu version |
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| 10:23.59 | netsurf3 | thanks very,very much for the info about the xfce |
| 10:24.06 | stoned | netsurf3, and others, here are some useful aliases to put into .bashrc that makes life debian console much easier, well, not easy, just less typing. http://pastebin.com/736784 |
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| 10:24.45 | netsurf3 | wow i like :D |
| 10:24.45 | embrik | cahoot: Is it possible for me to use fish as well, to connect to another computer on my network? |
| 10:24.48 | stoned | this is supposing you are like me and have sudo installed with sudoers configured |
| 10:24.54 | netsurf3 | eyah |
| 10:24.56 | haak_ | usb flash disk isn't looking |
| 10:24.59 | netsurf3 | can you help me do that? |
| 10:25.01 | haak_ | ? |
| 10:25.14 | stoned | netsurf3, apt-get install sudo && nano /etc/sudoers |
| 10:25.25 | netsurf3 | yes with the config file |
| 10:25.32 | stoned | netsurf3, then copy the line for root at the bottom, paste it , and then change root to your username |
| 10:25.43 | netsurf3 | i am unsure how to set it up correctly |
| 10:25.45 | netsurf3 | ahh |
| 10:25.47 | netsurf3 | ok |
| 10:26.04 | stoned | netsurf3, just look at the /etc/sudoers file, it will only make sense |
| 10:26.05 | stoned | :) |
| 10:26.14 | netsurf3 | <3 stoned |
| 10:26.37 | Ekaterin | Can someone please help me make the IBMgraphics or DECgraphics nethack options work properly? DECgraphics mostly works in an xterm, but on the console turning either option on causes the screen to appear a complete mess. |
| 10:27.01 | Ekaterin | BTW, this is playing nethack by telnetting to nethack.alt.org, if that matters. |
| 10:27.10 | stoned | Ekaterin, you are looking for IBM graphics option because that is best, as it draws nice lines and boxes |
| 10:27.20 | stoned | Ekaterin, do not use DEC + IBM at the same time of course |
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| 10:27.40 | migiel | anyone here formilure with the grub-error: "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly." ? |
| 10:27.44 | stoned | Ekaterin, #nethack |
| 10:27.56 | Ekaterin | stoned: I'm being very careful to turn one off before turning the other on. |
| 10:28.04 | stoned | Ekaterin, good work |
| 10:28.07 | netsurf3 | migiel it cant find that file? |
| 10:28.31 | Ekaterin | stoned: This is a debian machine I'm having the trouble on. (Well, I also have it on SuSe, but that's a separate problem which I'll work on later.) |
| 10:28.41 | embrik | anybody: why can't I reach another machine on my domestic network by doing this in konqueror: fish://ipadresse to the other computer? |
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| 10:28.49 | migiel | netsurf3: im running the latest netinstall-cd, but grub and lilo wont install, im using a raid (md0), any idea..? |
| 10:29.06 | netsurf3 | raid may be the problem :/ |
| 10:29.18 | stoned | Ekaterin, what exactly is the trouble? How is it a complete mess? If you are in console or xterm, using IBM graphics will work nicely, I know beacuse I have tried |
| 10:29.31 | netsurf3 | i am not very good with grub so i am not sure i can help |
| 10:29.32 | Ekaterin | stoned: BTW, I'm getting the nice dungeon walls with DECgraphics in an xterm, but fountains are still { and corridors are still #. |
| 10:29.48 | stoned | Ekaterin, hmm |
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| 10:29.57 | migiel | netsurf3: i know.. device.map gave me (hd1) /dev/sda1 and (hd2) /dev/sdb1 |
| 10:30.06 | netsurf3 | hmm |
| 10:30.16 | stoned | Ekaterin, letme check nethack real quick, hold on |
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| 10:30.20 | migiel | and i changed it to (hd1) /dev/md0 |
| 10:30.24 | brownie17 | what function can i put on ls to make it only show folders? |
| 10:30.25 | migiel | but im not sure if this will work |
| 10:30.29 | Ekaterin | IBMgraphics in an xterm (font 10x20 if it matters): lots and lots of u's with acute accents on the screen. |
| 10:30.32 | netsurf3 | did you try using the sda1 boot |
| 10:30.42 | netsurf3 | set that as the location for the data? |
| 10:30.57 | netsurf3 | chances are that the menu file is on the other disk of the raid |
| 10:31.00 | streuner | brownie17: folders in ls? -d comes to mind |
| 10:31.02 | migiel | netsurf3: i think i did, but i'll try again |
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| 10:31.16 | netsurf3 | go speak to the fellows over at #grub |
| 10:31.29 | netsurf3 | they are specialists :D |
| 10:31.33 | migiel | allright :) thx |
| 10:31.52 | stoned | Ekaterin, sorry I was mistaken, DEC in xterm or console would work perfectly for you. DEC drasws the nice lines for walls, and .(dots) for corridors. You can also make a nethack options file, as in debian there is no default config file for user, and you can change the ASCII letters to be used for whichever object |
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| 10:32.04 | stoned | Ekaterin, read the documentation carefully, it explains exactly how to do that |
| 10:32.29 | wdamn | Hi, I've upgraded vim to 6.4.7 using debian backports - now colored syntax doesn't work - what can I do? |
| 10:32.43 | Ekaterin | stoned: Hmm, this is on nethack.alt.org, but I may try installing nethack locally to see if the same problem occurs. |
| 10:33.06 | stoned | Ekaterin, if you are playing nethack on someone else's server, it might not be compiled with those options |
| 10:33.10 | brownie17 | streuner, nope, |
| 10:33.51 | streuner | brownie17: ok, read the *fine* man-page then :-) |
| 10:33.53 | wdamn | if i do :syntax on I've got |
| 10:33.55 | wdamn | Errore/i eseguendo /usr/share/vim/vim64/syntax/syntax.vim: |
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| 10:33.57 | Ekaterin | BTW, IBMgraphics on console - accented u's all over screen again. DECgraphics in console - tildes all over screen. |
| 10:34.29 | stoned | Ekaterin, hmm, it works fine for me. Maybe you could look at a graphical nethack? |
| 10:34.52 | raf256 | how to check how meany packages I have installed now? |
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| 10:35.00 | raf256 | and how meany is in apt-cache? |
| 10:35.03 | stoned | Ekaterin, IBM graphics will more than likely screw up |
| 10:35.06 | raf256 | like SOME_OPTION | wc -l ? |
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| 10:35.45 | stoned | blut und krieg! |
| 10:35.52 | raf256 | apt-cache search ".*" | wc -l is number of available packets |
| 10:35.56 | raf256 | and number of installed? |
| 10:36.01 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 10:36.01 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 10:36.12 | Ekaterin | stoned: Are you by any chance using the Debian nethack package? |
| 10:36.16 | streuner | stoned: /msg dpkg info blootbot |
| 10:36.26 | stoned | Ekaterin, yes, but I am on sid |
| 10:36.37 | stoned | streuner, blut == blood, und == and, krieg == war |
| 10:36.59 | brownie17 | stoned, heil meine phuror! |
| 10:37.00 | yyyylle | I'm using tcpdump - but the promiscuous mode doesn't show up on "ifconfig" ?? (....!!) |
| 10:37.09 | streuner | stoned: do you speak german? |
| 10:37.15 | Ekaterin | stoned: OK, I am on sarge and using nethack.alt.org. If that's likely to be important I probably will get more help on #nethack, so sorry to trouble you. |
| 10:37.18 | stoned | streuner, no :) |
| 10:37.28 | stoned | streuner, I listen to a lot of norwegian black metal :) |
| 10:37.32 | brownie17 | streuner, heil mein phuror! |
| 10:37.33 | embrik | I've forgot how to copy with scp between computers. What is wrong here. I want to copy the entire catalogue /filmer/ from the computer I'm logged into, to the computer I'm sitting on: scp -r /filmer/ @193.216.130.55: |
| 10:37.55 | petemc | embrik: scp -r dir/ user@host:. |
| 10:38.11 | embrik | peternc:thanks |
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| 10:38.19 | petemc | embrik: the man page should be fairly clear.. |
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| 10:39.24 | stoned | Ekaterin, I have not used anything but debian unstable in years. I don't particularly know what goes on with packages in other distributions of debian. In unstable, nethack has never fucked fo rme once, and it always behaves the way I want it to. Don't be sorry to ask here. If it is directly debian related, feel free to ask. Although you will undoubtedly get better nethack support in #nethack, but debian package support is always here |
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| 10:39.47 | embrik | tried the man page, but couldn't find examples and when I don't find examples I'm usually lost. |
| 10:40.10 | streuner | stoned: do you think its a very good idea to mention sid/unstable here? |
| 10:40.14 | brownie17 | stoned, i don't get nethack. can you change the keys? |
| 10:40.38 | stoned | streuner, depending on the context |
| 10:40.41 | iKernel | :( |
| 10:40.42 | stoned | yes |
| 10:40.47 | stoned | sometimes yes, sometimes no |
| 10:40.56 | embrik | I'm copying with scp and realize that the speed is 35 kb/s. What's wrong? |
| 10:40.57 | raf256 | brownie17: I assumme thoes are vi(m) keys ? hjkl? go learn them :P |
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| 10:41.06 | raf256 | !give embrik zimmer |
| 10:41.10 | Eulex | brownie17, you can make it use the numpad. shift-O, select the appropriate option |
| 10:41.13 | raf256 | erm sorry wrong channel |
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| 10:41.58 | embrik | zimmer? |
| 10:42.15 | stoned | my mororowind character's name is Zilf Zimmerman |
| 10:42.16 | stoned | ;) |
| 10:42.24 | stoned | Zimmer is a cool name |
| 10:42.36 | streuner | Hans too ;-) |
| 10:42.40 | stoned | indeed |
| 10:43.21 | brownie17 | stoned, where are all the config files stored for nethack? |
| 10:43.39 | stoned | brownie17, dpkg -L nethack-console |
| 10:43.49 | Eulex | brownie17, .nethackrc, iirc |
| 10:43.54 | stoned | brownie17, replace that with your pkg name |
| 10:44.10 | stoned | Eulex, debian packages afaik dont' come with a nethack options flie |
| 10:44.19 | embrik | Didn't understand this Zimmer thing. I wonder why the trafic between my two computers is so slow 34 kb/s. The speed is higher when I download from the Internet |
| 10:44.49 | stoned | well not that obvious that is |
| 10:44.51 | brownie17 | Eulex, ya who now? what's iirc? |
| 10:44.57 | embrik | Do you think the trafic goes throgh mu ISP? |
| 10:44.58 | Eulex | !iirc |
| 10:44.59 | dpkg | IIRC, "IIRC" is an acronym for "If I Recall Correctly", or "If I remember correctly" |
| 10:45.08 | stoned | brownie17, /etc/nethack/nethackrc.tty |
| 10:45.20 | stoned | brownie17, dpkg -L nethack-common |
| 10:45.29 | netsurf3 | stoned: how do you get the single " |
| 10:45.39 | stoned | netsurf3, ? |
| 10:45.42 | Eulex | stoned, I thought he meant where he could add his own settings. you could create ~/.nethackrc. |
| 10:45.48 | stoned | oh |
| 10:45.54 | stoned | netsurf3, dont use shift + quote |
| 10:46.01 | netsurf3 | :/ |
| 10:46.06 | netsurf3 | so what is comm |
| 10:46.07 | nfi|ermes | hi all |
| 10:46.18 | nfi|ermes | anyone with experience with hylafax ? |
| 10:46.51 | stoned | !anyone |
| 10:46.51 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 10:47.14 | brownie17 | stoned, can i paste in #paster the output of that and you explain what good that did? |
| 10:47.30 | stoned | brownie17, /msg dpkg grounding |
| 10:47.33 | brownie17 | stoned, i mean #flood |
| 10:47.46 | stoned | brownie17, read and learn, you won't ask me what the output of dpkg -L is |
| 10:47.49 | junir | #paster is for pissed ppl |
| 10:47.58 | brownie17 | junir, lol, what the? |
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| 10:48.06 | junir | heh eh |
| 10:48.48 | brownie17 | stoned, is it true nobody has ever retreived the amulet? |
| 10:48.55 | junir | jez im in a class where a guy is showing us how to create a directory in dos |
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| 10:49.05 | stoned | brownie17, some people have I think. Go to #nethack |
| 10:49.06 | junir | very insightful indeed |
| 10:49.24 | stoned | junir, there are lots of people who don't know how to do that |
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| 10:49.39 | iKernel | Where is modprobe.conf? :( |
| 10:49.41 | Eulex | brownie17, people do have retrieved the amulet |
| 10:50.01 | brownie17 | Eulex, english check? the manual pages say no-one ever has. |
| 10:50.03 | junir | ok, now when you "mkdir fuckyou" go back to the GUI and see your folder. Aaaaaaaaaahhhh |
| 10:50.05 | streuner | iKernel: locate modprobe.conf? |
| 10:50.13 | streuner | iKernel: /etc/ |
| 10:50.36 | iKernel | streuner, it's not there... i am running sarge btw |
| 10:50.46 | streuner | iKernel: you usually not need to edit that |
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| 10:51.09 | valdyn | iKernel: you should not touch modprobe.con |
| 10:51.10 | valdyn | iKernel: you should not touch modprobe.conf |
| 10:51.15 | Eulex | brownie17, well, that part's just part of the story |
| 10:51.16 | iKernel | streuner, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=863112&postcount=1 |
| 10:51.28 | embrik | I've ssh-ed another computer on my domestic network and started a scp, copying films from my son's computer to mine. The speed is ratehr disapointing: 34 kb/s. Do you think the traffic is going through my Internet Provider. And if it is so, is it possible to log into this machine locally, without going through this extern server? |
| 10:51.32 | iKernel | well how do I do what that person did? |
| 10:51.44 | valdyn | iKernel: that forum is hardly authorative for debian, use /etc/modprobe.d/ |
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| 10:52.00 | netman1 | Hi All. How do I run a program from within gdb so that it shows me all the files that are being opened by that program? |
| 10:52.15 | ben | just need lsof |
| 10:52.22 | ben | not gdb |
| 10:52.27 | Eulex | netman1, I'd use strace |
| 10:52.36 | iKernel | No idea how to do that nv_disable_pat option. No idea at all. |
| 10:52.36 | ben | for example too |
| 10:52.47 | netman1 | ben: that gives me a snapshot, I want them all in the course of the run |
| 10:52.55 | valdyn | iKernel: echo text > /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.mine |
| 10:53.17 | netman1 | Eulex: of course, thanks for the tip. |
| 10:53.20 | iKernel | valdyn, nvidia.mine ? |
| 10:53.41 | valdyn | iKernel: or nvidia.whatever or whateverfuckingname ) |
| 10:53.46 | Eulex | netman1, yw :) |
| 10:54.04 | iKernel | valdyn, so it doesn't matter, ok |
| 10:54.11 | ben | Is there a network specific chan ? |
| 10:54.19 | iKernel | hmm not sure about this |
| 10:54.35 | stoned | ben /list network perhaps |
| 10:54.49 | valdyn | iKernel: echo 'options nvidia nv_disable_pat' > /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.mine |
| 10:54.50 | ben | none |
| 10:54.51 | Gnea | ben: #networking |
| 10:54.52 | Tom_Beers | JAKEY |
| 10:54.54 | stoned | hmm |
| 10:54.59 | iKernel | valdyn, ok |
| 10:55.17 | Gnea | Tom_Beers: ? |
| 10:55.24 | Eulex | Tom_Beers, gesundheit |
| 10:55.33 | ben | thx Gnea |
| 10:55.37 | Gnea | lol |
| 10:55.42 | valdyn | iKernel: is funman you? that post is very bad and may be misleading |
| 10:55.48 | Gnea | ben: you're welcome |
| 10:55.52 | Tom_Beers | JAKEY |
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| 10:55.54 | iKernel | valdyn, no, funman is not me |
| 10:55.59 | valdyn | iKernel: he's not showing what exactly his problem is |
| 10:56.09 | Gnea | 03:56 -!- There is no such nick jakey |
| 10:56.24 | iKernel | valdyn, well he has the same symptons as me |
| 10:56.41 | iKernel | god I wish I had received that sparkle card instead of this similar card |
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| 10:56.47 | embrik | the speed on transfering files from one computer to another with scp is 35 kb/s. Am I doing something wrong? |
| 10:56.53 | Tom_Beers | JAKEY |
| 10:56.58 | valdyn | iKernel: if 2 people have fever they do not necessarily have the same disease |
| 10:57.02 | Gnea | embrik: perhaps you should ask jakey |
| 10:57.15 | Gnea | embrik: what sort of network are they on? |
| 10:57.39 | embrik | gnea: normal LAN? |
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| 10:57.54 | Gnea | embrik: is it? |
| 10:57.54 | embrik | gnea: cabled cat5 |
| 10:58.01 | iKernel | valdyn, well if this doesn't work, I'll try what another guy tried, that is get another bios and modify it like he did... |
| 10:58.06 | Gnea | embrik: with a hub or switch? |
| 10:58.34 | embrik | Gnea: switch, downloading from Internett give 180 kb/s |
| 10:58.58 | Gnea | embrik: who makes the network cards in the systems? and are they all 10/100? |
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| 10:59.09 | iKernel | What's the difference between a hub and a switch? |
| 10:59.21 | Tom_Beers | [amsg] Sorry about the above, I didn't realise /amsg sent it to all servers. :< |
| 10:59.24 | ootput | do any of you guys get "tail: cannot open `+8' for reading: No such file or directory" when issuing auto-apt update |
| 10:59.26 | fwest | can i get gnome 2.12 or .14 for sarge yet? |
| 10:59.45 | ootput | fwest: 12's in backports, iirc |
| 10:59.53 | iKernel | brb |
| 10:59.53 | embrik | gnea: they are all 10/100 |
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| 11:00.01 | Gnea | iKernel: a 10mbit hub will spread a whole 10mbit pipe across all ports. an 8port 10mbit switch will have a dedicated 10mbit on each port. |
| 11:00.11 | dorel_ | uhmm, there's no php5-pear available for backports? |
| 11:00.18 | Gnea | oops |
| 11:00.20 | ootput | fwest: eh, apparently not |
| 11:00.34 | Eulex | fwest, if you compile it... |
| 11:00.37 | Gnea | embrik: ok, but who makes them all? are they all the exact same? or different manufacturers? |
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| 11:01.09 | embrik | Gnea: they are not the same, I think... Should that be a problem? |
| 11:01.17 | Gnea | embrik: it might be. |
| 11:01.17 | voltagex | after installing and uninstalling udev (/dev seemed to be back to normal), I can't ssh in to my box - server refused to allocate pty. Konsole has a similar problem as it can't access any ptys. What have I done?! |
| 11:01.18 | fwest | ootput: i couldn't see it on backports |
| 11:01.49 | fwest | Eulex: really? you can compile things with debian? wow its nearly as good as gentoo :D |
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| 11:02.14 | voltagex | :'( |
| 11:02.17 | chump | what country are most ppl here from? |
| 11:02.21 | blondie | fwest: debian is Way Better than gentoo mmkay |
| 11:02.26 | Gnea | embrik: realteks seem to have the most trouble |
| 11:02.28 | Eulex | fwest, of course you can. it's a bit more complicated than emerging stuff, though. |
| 11:02.44 | embrik | gnea: If I abbort the filetransfer now, wil I continue when I start it again, or weill I start all over again? |
| 11:02.52 | voltagex | any ideas on how to fix the damage I caused? |
| 11:03.04 | Gnea | embrik: what does the manpage say? |
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| 11:03.10 | blondie | !emerge |
| 11:03.11 | dpkg | methinks emerge is gentoo's package tool |
| 11:03.31 | fwest | Eulex: imho, the idea of using debian is that you can use other people's packages, saving lazy sods like me effort |
| 11:03.32 | Eulex | fwest, usually, ./configure && make && make install for every source package you want to install |
| 11:03.38 | Gnea | voltagex: you should reboot to an older kernel that isn't dependant on udev |
| 11:03.43 | jbullzeye | hi guys |
| 11:03.44 | embrik | gnea: one of the cards are realtek.. |
| 11:03.57 | Gnea | embrik: that's probably why. try to isolate it and try again. |
| 11:04.10 | voltagex | Gnea: this one shouldn't be... where in menuconfig is udev? |
| 11:04.19 | Gnea | voltagex: it's not. |
| 11:04.23 | ootput | fwest: for binaries, absolutely |
| 11:04.33 | Gnea | voltagex: it's about versioning. and udev is a very good thing. |
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| 11:04.37 | Gnea | !udev |
| 11:04.37 | dpkg | udev is, like, at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 11:04.42 | fwest | sigh :D |
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| 11:05.09 | fwest | or even source code for packing binaries |
| 11:05.09 | voltagex | ahh screen gone funny |
| 11:05.10 | embrik | gnea: isolate it? Do you mean put in a new networkcard? |
| 11:05.20 | Gnea | embrik: that's one way |
| 11:05.31 | nevyn | sigh... zondervan really are assholes |
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| 11:05.42 | voltagex | Gnea: I compiled this kernel myself... I obviously don't know enough. |
| 11:05.42 | Gnea | nevyn: who? |
| 11:05.46 | nevyn | (zondervan own the copyright on the NIV bible) |
| 11:05.49 | ootput | fwest: deb is a great binary-based distro, with average tools for self-packaging, whereas gentoo is a great source-based distro, with piss-poor binary support |
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| 11:05.57 | Gnea | the NIV? |
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| 11:06.07 | nevyn | New International Version |
| 11:06.21 | Gnea | and that's related to debian how? |
| 11:06.27 | fwest | ootput: can't say i've used either |
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| 11:06.39 | mcgreg | hmm I have a question. udev tells me to purge hotplug .. I rtried using dpkg --purge hotplug, but it fails: dpkg - warning: while removing hotplug, directory `/etc/logcheck/violations.ignore.d' not empty so not removed. any ideas? |
| 11:06.40 | nevyn | Gnea: I'm trying to run their software on debian.. |
| 11:06.45 | fwest | im going back to using my nintendo |
| 11:06.47 | ootput | great, then it shall remain one-sided ;) |
| 11:07.01 | Gnea | nevyn: ah |
| 11:07.06 | nevyn | debian has comparable software in it.. but I'd like to use their data ;) |
| 11:07.14 | Eulex | voltagex, compile again, and this time, base the config on an .config from an official debian kernel. don't touch anything you don't know. |
| 11:07.33 | Gnea | voltagex: what Eulex said |
| 11:08.13 | nevyn | Gnea: but instead of using the standard format for bible data they have a nasty proprietary file format that actually looks to be a custom compression/scrambling system |
| 11:08.36 | MrPrimate | does anyone know how I can move mail into sendmail, ?? I am trying to append to /var/mail/USERNAME but it never turns into mail |
| 11:08.43 | rovragge | does udev break alsa for anyone here? |
| 11:09.10 | mcgreg | no |
| 11:09.16 | Gnea | nevyn: google? |
| 11:09.17 | mcgreg | not here |
| 11:09.30 | jetscreamer | either udev or initrd breaks the bootability for me |
| 11:09.39 | Gnea | rovragge: udev breaks alsa? |
| 11:09.42 | rovragge | is /dev/snd/* supposed to be dynamically created by udev? |
| 11:09.43 | jetscreamer | aka the box don't boot |
| 11:09.57 | Gnea | rovragge: yes, that's what udev does |
| 11:09.57 | rovragge | what does /udev/.static do? |
| 11:10.10 | rovragge | ehrm /dev/.static |
| 11:10.23 | nevyn | Gnea: tried... |
| 11:10.37 | jetscreamer | rovragge: read the udev rules file |
| 11:10.49 | Gnea | rovragge: you should really RTFM for that one - /usr/share/doc/udev/ |
| 11:10.52 | jetscreamer | it's on your box somehwere |
| 11:10.57 | jetscreamer | there it is |
| 11:12.01 | Gnea | rovragge: it has very good documentation, you can learn more from it than asking here :) |
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| 11:13.49 | voltagex | err did I time out? |
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| 11:14.23 | ootput | regarding udev, i've created a ruleset for my external devices (ex: /dev/sd?1 -> /dev/ipod,) and specify fstab rules for mounting of these devices during boot, but it appears as though udev parses the ruleset before the system has loaded the neccessary modules for usb, and so fails to mount the devices at boot |
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| 11:14.55 | ootput | is there a way (besides builting the drivers into the kernel) to remedy this? |
| 11:15.23 | rovragge | Ok, I have a rule for alsa device creation but nothing happens when I load snd-emu10k1 in /dev/snd |
| 11:15.32 | ootput | grammar and spelling mistakes asid |
| 11:15.36 | ootput | +e :/ |
| 11:16.13 | voltagex | ootput: is there a good tutorial on udev? |
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| 11:16.43 | MrPrimate | anyone know how to show special characters in vim ? |
| 11:16.51 | MrPrimate | I want to see the newlines and everything |
| 11:17.49 | ootput | voltagex: to create rules? |
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| 11:21.31 | cubiq | How do I register my IP in a DNS record from debian? |
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| 11:21.57 | netsurf3 | hmm |
| 11:22.03 | netsurf3 | i need ndiswrapper |
| 11:22.18 | netsurf3 | but it isnt in the etch repositry i have |
| 11:22.19 | formorer | you need better hardware :) |
| 11:22.23 | netsurf3 | any idea why? |
| 11:22.32 | netsurf3 | formorer: shush |
| 11:22.33 | netsurf3 | :P |
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| 11:23.17 | rovragge | if I run udevmonitor I get upon module loading "UDEV [1148556158.949385] add@/class/sound/controlC0" |
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| 11:23.30 | rovragge | but no /dev/snd/XXX created |
| 11:23.32 | formorer | thats true. ndiswrapper is one of the biggest bunch of shit I've ever seen :) |
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| 11:23.50 | netsurf3 | why? |
| 11:23.51 | napoleao | I cant remove courier-authdaemon dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--configure): |
| 11:23.51 | napoleao | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.52 | phogg | netsurf3: nsdiswrapper is evil |
| 11:23.55 | netsurf3 | lol |
| 11:23.58 | netsurf3 | it works |
| 11:24.02 | napoleao | anyone know how can I fix this? |
| 11:24.08 | netsurf3 | and the native drivers are worse at the moment |
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| 11:24.14 | netsurf3 | they cause crashes |
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| 11:24.32 | phogg | netsurf3: fix the drivers. Use different hardware. |
| 11:24.53 | plasmoduck | where are ssh logins stored? |
| 11:24.59 | netsurf3 | fix the drivers with what? and using different hardware is not an option |
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| 11:25.07 | iKernel | :D |
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| 11:25.10 | phogg | napoleao: unpack the post install script and find out what causes it to fail. Fix that, submit a bug report, and rebuild the package. |
| 11:25.11 | formorer | netsurf3: it does nothing for free software and enables you to use shitty drivers in linux |
| 11:25.21 | iKernel | :D :D :D |
| 11:25.43 | netsurf3 | formorer: so this is saying you basicly wont help me even if you knew? |
| 11:25.43 | iKernel | i'm so glad that I'm a bit shaky |
| 11:26.25 | ootput | VoltageX: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
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| 11:26.35 | ootput | iKernel: that can be a bad thing |
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| 11:26.56 | iKernel | ootput, I've finally got 3D accleration with nvidia card working! |
| 11:27.25 | formorer | netsurf3: even if I wanted to use ndiswrapper I can't. So I don't have a clue about it |
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| 11:27.38 | netsurf3 | ok |
| 11:27.42 | iKernel | kernel@debian:~$ glxgears |
| 11:27.42 | iKernel | 8645 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1728.878 FPS |
| 11:27.48 | netsurf3 | :O |
| 11:27.52 | iKernel | I think I need to let glx gears run a bit longer |
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| 11:27.55 | netsurf3 | you have a better card than me |
| 11:27.57 | mcgreg | in what package is glxgears? |
| 11:27.58 | netsurf3 | H8 |
| 11:28.11 | netsurf3 | do a search |
| 11:28.14 | netsurf3 | i cant remember |
| 11:28.17 | iKernel | netsurf3, Nah, just didn't let it run long enough |
| 11:28.18 | ootput | iKernel: ah, the newer glxgears (sid?) doesn't give fps |
| 11:28.31 | ootput | i think there's a workaround for it though |
| 11:28.46 | napoleao | is there a gui menu of debian packages that can be run from the terminal? |
| 11:28.59 | iKernel | everyone run glxgears if you can and give us the fps :) |
| 11:29.02 | napoleao | in order to see what is installed and so on.. |
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| 11:29.07 | iKernel | I have very good results |
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| 11:29.13 | mcgreg | iKernel: going to instakll it, give me a minute ;) |
| 11:29.16 | plasmoduck | where are ssh logins stored? |
| 11:29.19 | iKernel | mcgreg, ok |
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| 11:29.31 | azeem | iKernel: please stop soliciting benchmarks in here |
| 11:29.50 | DragonD | How can i find out how a new user and group got on my server? |
| 11:29.51 | iKernel | azeem, I'm not too sure what soliciting means, sorry |
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| 11:29.57 | azeem | iKernel: requesting |
| 11:29.59 | ootput | iKernel: prostitution |
| 11:30.07 | iKernel | azeem, Ah... Sorry. |
| 11:30.08 | azeem | ootput: huh? |
| 11:30.32 | jonaskoelker | does anyone know of a piece of software which will display either mouse button status (I'm thinking something similar to keyboard LEDs, just on-screen), or a cute animation around the cursor when a button is clicked? |
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| 11:30.52 | jonaskoelker | (I need it for an xvidcap video to illustrate a bug in konqueror) |
| 11:30.54 | brownie17 | jonaskoelker, easy to create in Realbasic |
| 11:31.11 | jonaskoelker | brownie17: okay, go do than then :P |
| 11:31.26 | mcgreg | iKernel: hmm glxgears doesnt dsay anything here. the opened screen stay empty |
| 11:31.26 | jonaskoelker | brownie17: nah. I'm sure it is, I just don't know realbasic |
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| 11:31.42 | mcgreg | erm, I mean window |
| 11:31.44 | iKernel | mcgreg, You don't look in the screen, you look in the terminal |
| 11:31.45 | ootput | mcgreg: there's a workaround, if you're interested |
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| 11:32.14 | mike___ | I'm sure this is simply something I'm overlooking...I need to install a newer kernel-image and kernel-headers (I'm currently running 2.6.7-1-686) and there doesn't seem to be any packages for it in apt anymore...how can I get a new precompiled debian kernel? |
| 11:32.21 | iKernel | MUST install quake4 |
| 11:32.23 | jonaskoelker | brownie17: besides, 'apt-cache search realbasic' == '' |
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| 11:33.17 | mcgreg | ootput: the workaround is? |
| 11:33.23 | cubiq | does anyone have a dns updater to recommend? Apparently nsupdate is not available as a debian package but there are tons of other ones. |
| 11:33.48 | ootput | mcgreg: I've forgotten.. i was hoping you'd google for it and save me the trouble of finding it myself :D |
| 11:33.56 | ootput | but it does exist |
| 11:34.04 | ootput | either it was a command-line option |
| 11:34.19 | ootput | or running glxgears in conjunction with another tool |
| 11:34.40 | azeem | it's an (possibly undocumented) command-line option, AFAIK |
| 11:35.09 | azeem | they removed the standard output, because people started to take it for a benchmark |
| 11:35.09 | tbf | how do i build .deb files based on original debian packages but enhanced by few custom patches? |
| 11:35.29 | azeem | tbf: you edit the files under debian/ and rebuild |
| 11:35.37 | ootput | azeem: precisely :) |
| 11:35.44 | azeem | there is no one single way, Debian packages are all different |
| 11:36.08 | nixie | is Xorg 7.0 in testing yet? |
| 11:36.12 | mcgreg | hmmm now I got outpuit in the windows, but no number :) |
| 11:36.14 | ootput | nixie: no |
| 11:36.20 | nixie | k:) |
| 11:36.33 | ootput | nixie: helicopter hat? |
| 11:36.42 | nixie | hehe |
| 11:36.44 | ootput | oh, parted hair |
| 11:36.58 | tbf | ...just found "apt-get source" so far |
| 11:36.58 | nixie | either/or :) |
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| 11:37.25 | azeem | tbf: try reading the new maintainers guide |
| 11:38.25 | devazion | Anyone using GNOME from unstable? I am using testing with unstable gnome binaries. It wont boot and complains about bonobo/corba errors. Anyone using it? (could it be cuz im on ppc?) |
| 11:38.29 | tbf | azeem: ok, thanks |
| 11:38.32 | ootput | grr.. updated nvidia-kernel-source with no corresponding nvidia-glx update |
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| 11:39.39 | azeem | devazion: can you paste the errors to a pastebin? |
| 11:39.41 | azeem | !paster |
| 11:39.41 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 11:39.57 | ootput | devazion: it's more likely that it's the testing/unstable mix that's causing problems |
| 11:40.07 | devazion | azeem: not really, i get about 10 dialogues with errors ... |
| 11:40.26 | devazion | ootput: i am just doing a dist-upgrade to pure testing to check if the testing binaries will work |
| 11:40.45 | azeem | you cannot ist-downgrade |
| 11:40.56 | azeem | eh, s/is/dist/ |
| 11:40.58 | ootput | devazion: it's a very problematic procedure |
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| 11:41.39 | devazion | azeem: since its just the gnome metapackage and its content that is from unstable i just removed the unstable sources and im doing dist-upgrade now, why shouldnt i be able to? |
| 11:41.52 | iKernel | :D |
| 11:41.57 | iKernel | downloading client/server now |
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| 11:42.17 | ootput | q4? |
| 11:42.22 | iKernel | ootput, just download nvidia's drivers and install them, that's what I did |
| 11:42.23 | azeem | devazion: because APT does not downgrade packages |
| 11:42.25 | iKernel | ootput, yup |
| 11:42.36 | azeem | an downgradng is not supportd in general |
| 11:42.55 | ootput | iKernel: i like doing it the debian way, though :) |
| 11:43.09 | iKernel | ootput, meh |
| 11:43.10 | devazion | azeem: it's installing right now. I'll tell you if it worked or not :) I know that downgrading from etch to sarge etc shouldnt work, but i am just using the lower versions of the gnome packages again |
| 11:43.11 | ootput | iKernel: i'll just wait it out.. i'll have to refrain from bulding the kernel again |
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| 11:43.44 | valdyn | ootput: there's new nvidia-glx packages, they just depends on nvidia-kernel-foo |
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| 11:44.07 | iKernel | 14% [====> ] 18,462,240 140.96K/s ETA 13:38 |
| 11:44.09 | formorer | netsurf3: just to satisfy mycuriosity. which hardware do you have? |
| 11:44.10 | ootput | valdyn: yeah, it could be a slow mirror |
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| 11:44.26 | netsurf3 | formorer: to what type of hardware? |
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| 11:44.34 | ootput | a fast slow mirror |
| 11:44.35 | sinbaski | Hi! Is it true that /etc/profile will be automatically executed as soon as a user logs in? |
| 11:44.37 | formorer | netsurf3: yeah |
| 11:44.40 | netsurf3 | my debian laptop or the wireless adaptor |
| 11:44.43 | valdyn | ootput: you have to first build and install the new driver in any case |
| 11:44.45 | netsurf3 | or it all |
| 11:44.47 | formorer | netsurf3: and what model it is? |
| 11:44.53 | formorer | netsurf3: (the wlan device) |
| 11:44.54 | SlayerXP | sinbaski: no, it's a lie propogated by ebil open source haX0rs |
| 11:44.55 | rosshend | anyone know if the latest can debain be installed on intel macs? |
| 11:44.56 | netsurf3 | dell latitued LT |
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| 11:45.05 | SlayerXP | rosshend: what's debain? |
| 11:45.13 | azeem | SlayerXP: oh, come on |
| 11:45.15 | ootput | valdyn: which driver is that? |
| 11:45.19 | azeem | rosshend: no |
| 11:45.20 | rosshend | SlayerXP: opps :-p |
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| 11:45.32 | tbf | maybe because their package system is much easier to use? |
| 11:45.36 | sinbaski | SlayerXP: then is there any script that is executed? |
| 11:45.39 | valdyn | ootput: nvidia-kernel- |
| 11:45.41 | iKernel | rosshend, no. you make drivers for their hardware, then maybe. |
| 11:45.42 | formorer | netsurf3: and what wlan chip is inside the laptop? |
| 11:45.43 | brownie17 | someone tell me what the command for shutting down is |
| 11:45.43 | netsurf3 | formorer: belkin usbwlan f5d7050 |
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| 11:45.55 | brokencluster | hello all~ |
| 11:45.58 | netsurf3 | formorer: that is my adaptor |
| 11:46.00 | azeem | tbf: no, because the author of the guide used to maintain gentoo |
| 11:46.02 | brokencluster | can i ask a question |
| 11:46.10 | iKernel | brokencluster, Hello! How are you going? |
| 11:46.22 | devazion | so what differs the intel mac architecture from regular x86? booting? |
| 11:46.29 | formorer | netsurf3: thats a ralink chipset, there are free drivers existing |
| 11:46.32 | brokencluster | when i excute the below command on my auditor live cd |
| 11:46.32 | azeem | !info gentoo |
| 11:46.33 | valdyn | devazion: yea |
| 11:46.35 | dpkg | gentoo: (a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.55-1 (sid), Packaged size: 771 kB, Installed size: 2444 kB |
| 11:46.37 | brokencluster | ssh start |
| 11:46.37 | formorer | devazion: missing of bios, existing of EFI |
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| 11:46.43 | netsurf3 | formorer: i know |
| 11:46.52 | brownie17 | someone tell me what the command for shutting down is |
| 11:46.55 | ootput | may as well use vifm or an mc clone |
| 11:46.56 | netsurf3 | formorer it is the rt2570 |
| 11:46.57 | devazion | valdyn & formorer: i see thx :) (stupid apple *smack*) |
| 11:46.59 | netsurf3 | but they are bad |
| 11:47.00 | brokencluster | i t replays Temporary failure in name resolution |
| 11:47.05 | formorer | netsurf3: so why ndiswrapper? |
| 11:47.12 | formorer | devazion: thats a good decision |
| 11:47.13 | iKernel | brokencluster, init 0, shutdown now, poweroff. I suggest poweroff. |
| 11:47.15 | netsurf3 | it seems to work better |
| 11:47.16 | formorer | devazion: bios sucks |
| 11:47.24 | phaedrus_ | yeah yeah |
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| 11:47.44 | brownie17 | iKernel, bash: poweroff: command not found |
| 11:47.45 | brokencluster | iKernel what's wrong with my problem |
| 11:47.49 | ootput | brokencluster: ssh user@host is she usual command |
| 11:47.58 | ootput | brokencluster: s/she/the |
| 11:48.01 | formorer | and its no problem to boot efi enabled boxes with linux (see ia64) |
| 11:48.03 | devazion | formorer: i've heard many say that ^^ is it like the regular new world booting system but for x86 then? |
| 11:48.07 | ootput | brokencluster: are you trying to stard the ssh server? |
| 11:48.11 | iKernel | brownie17, sudo poweroff |
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| 11:48.21 | iKernel | brokencluster, Is your network card working? |
| 11:48.22 | brokencluster | i excute "ssh start " it replays : Temporary failure in name resolution |
| 11:48.29 | brokencluster | yes |
| 11:48.34 | ootput | brokencluster: because 'start' won't resolve to anything |
| 11:48.35 | napoleao | I am trying to remove courier authdaemon, but instead my apt-get tries to install it, how can I make remove instead of trying to install (I am typing apt-get remove....) |
| 11:48.35 | formorer | devazion: not until windows supports it natively |
| 11:48.45 | formorer | devazion: but the code is stillt existing, there is windows for ia64 |
| 11:48.47 | iKernel | brokencluster, ping google.com |
| 11:48.51 | CoRe-X | brokencluster, what you want? You wish establish connesction with remote service sshd? |
| 11:48.58 | devazion | formorer: :) thank you |
| 11:48.59 | brokencluster | yes |
| 11:49.01 | ootput | brokencluster: i have no idea what an auditor livecd is, but /etc/init.d/sshd start should work |
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| 11:49.26 | brokencluster | i what to use ssh service |
| 11:49.39 | brokencluster | but i cant start it with "ssh start" |
| 11:49.44 | iKernel | brokencluster, Do you want to run the ssh server or client? |
| 11:49.46 | ootput | brokencluster: so which is it? create a server for others to connect to? or connect to another server? |
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| 11:49.51 | blondie | brokencluster: that's not how you start it |
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| 11:50.00 | blondie | /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 11:50.01 | brokencluster | iKernel i what a server |
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| 11:50.10 | blondie | brokencluster: the ssh command runs the client |
| 11:50.14 | iKernel | brokencluster, /etc/init.d/sshd start |
| 11:50.17 | brokencluster | yes i use the /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 11:50.28 | blondie | well that's it |
| 11:50.30 | ootput | god you better not be a troll |
| 11:50.37 | CoRe-X | brokencluster, don't understent. You have yopur own server, or want connennecting to other? |
| 11:50.38 | brokencluster | but i auditor i did'nt found sshd |
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| 11:50.41 | iKernel | brokencluster, Not /etc/init.d/ssh start, /etc/init.d/sshd start |
| 11:50.47 | blondie | iKernel: wrong! |
| 11:50.57 | CoRe-X | iKernel, of cource |
| 11:51.03 | blondie | it's just ssh not sshd |
| 11:51.11 | brokencluster | but auditor may have no sshd |
| 11:51.16 | brokencluster | i think |
| 11:51.21 | azeem | what is auditor? |
| 11:51.28 | ootput | a livecd, apparently |
| 11:51.33 | iKernel | brokencluster, typing this command: sshd |
| 11:51.45 | tbf | ah! the debian folder is created in "package-version/".... |
| 11:51.51 | CoRe-X | blondie, if it's just ssh, sshd not used |
| 11:51.58 | ootput | a security collection aparently |
| 11:51.58 | blondie | CoRe-X: what? |
| 11:52.11 | blondie | so, is this actually a debian question? |
| 11:52.18 | SlayerXP | -brokencluster- VERSION xchat 2.6.2 Windows 5.0 [i686/398.00MHz] |
| 11:52.27 | brokencluster | when i ues sshd it says No such file or directory |
| 11:52.30 | brokencluster | use |
| 11:52.32 | CoRe-X | blondie, only client has been need |
| 11:52.39 | blondie | CoRe-X: please speak English |
| 11:52.40 | CoRe-X | which called ssh |
| 11:52.43 | superlinux | who has a link to english howto about ip-accounting ?? |
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| 11:52.59 | brokencluster | SlayerXP i'm in windows now |
| 11:53.03 | freelancer | hey peoples |
| 11:53.07 | blondie | brokencluster: are you using debian? |
| 11:53.14 | SlayerXP | brokencluster: are you using debian? |
| 11:53.28 | devazion | brokencluster is using windows right now |
| 11:53.34 | blondie | not the question |
| 11:53.40 | brokencluster | yes auditor is come from debian |
| 11:53.43 | iKernel | devazion, , Yes, but he is using a livecd on another machine |
| 11:53.44 | sinbaski | Hi! How can I change the environment variable PATH for all users? |
| 11:53.50 | blondie | brokencluster: what does that mean? |
| 11:53.52 | devazion | im sorry |
| 11:53.56 | brokencluster | devazion yse |
| 11:53.57 | brokencluster | yse |
| 11:53.59 | brokencluster | yes |
| 11:54.11 | ootput | this confrontation will get lame quick |
| 11:54.21 | iKernel | blondie, It means that his livecd comes from debian..? |
| 11:54.22 | blondie | brokencluster: are you having a problem with an actual debian machine? or are you running something else? |
| 11:54.26 | SlayerXP | brokencluster: auditor is based on knoppix, not debian. this is #debian not #knoppix |
| 11:54.31 | ben | sinbaski : /etc/bashrc |
| 11:54.36 | brokencluster | auditor is based on knoppix ,and knoppix is a live cd version of debian |
| 11:54.37 | iKernel | you can tell this guy is a newbie though, that's why I'm being polite to him |
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| 11:54.40 | blondie | iKernel: I meant in English |
| 11:55.06 | blondie | brokencluster: sorry this channel is just for debian questions, not knoppix or other distros based on debian |
| 11:55.27 | iKernel | lol he's on administrator account |
| 11:55.33 | blondie | maybe #knoppix will help. |
| 11:55.40 | brokencluster | yes i'm chinese i speak english very poor |
| 11:55.46 | ootput | brokencluster: ygpm |
| 11:55.48 | netsurf3 | cya ppl |
| 11:55.54 | Fish-Face | I appear to have a new twist on the evolution/glibc problem. I can't start GNOME! After logging in in GDM, it closes, GDM restarts on virtual terminal 8, and on #7, there's a *** glibc detected *** message. |
| 11:55.58 | netsurf3 | thanks for helping |
| 11:56.00 | iKernel | blondie: I think this guy is chinese |
| 11:56.17 | blondie | iKernel: I think he just said that :P |
| 11:56.22 | iKernel | blondie, oh |
| 11:56.35 | iKernel | blondie, Didn't see, lol. I just whois'd his ip |
| 11:56.49 | brokencluster | hehe~ |
| 11:56.54 | ootput | brokencluster: 您有ç§æœ‰æ¶ˆæ¯ |
| 11:56.56 | brokencluster | i use gprs |
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| 11:57.05 | ootput | babelfish better not be fucking with me |
| 11:57.14 | blondie | grrr gibberish |
| 11:58.06 | freelancer | :-} |
| 11:58.38 | MrPrimate | anyone know if there is a way to concatenate a bunch of files but with a newline inbetween each ? :) |
| 11:58.39 | ootput | hm, 'you have the private news' |
| 11:59.03 | blondie | MrPrimate: cat |
| 11:59.20 | blondie | (don't think it should put \n in there) |
| 11:59.22 | MrPrimate | blondie, how would you do that with cat on a wildcard ? |
| 11:59.27 | MrPrimate | blondie, cat * > bigfile.txt |
| 11:59.30 | priscila | brokencluster: what charset type is used at china? is any type of iso? |
| 11:59.35 | ootput | MrPrimate: for i in ... cat i; cat newline |
| 11:59.35 | MrPrimate | blondie, but I want newlines between each... hmm :/ |
| 11:59.41 | blondie | oh |
| 11:59.44 | MrPrimate | ootput, ah... thanks |
| 11:59.51 | iKernel | Hmm. Some how, I don't think I have the chinese fonts installed. |
| 11:59.56 | blondie | MrPrimate: a for loop then |
| 12:00.02 | ootput | of course, you'd need to fill in the blanks, MrPrimate ;) |
| 12:00.02 | brokencluster | prisila utf-8 or mostly gb2312 |
| 12:00.13 | MrPrimate | ootput, yeah i'm figureing that out |
| 12:00.37 | priscila | brokencluster: i´m a curious girl :) |
| 12:00.51 | ootput | queen of the desert? |
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| 12:00.57 | priscila | ootput: .... |
| 12:01.03 | priscila | ootput: are you stupid? |
| 12:01.22 | sinbaski | ben: thanks, I am trying /etc/bash.bashrc, which is closest file to the one you mentioned :) |
| 12:01.24 | ootput | sorry, that was rather lame. I saw an ad in the paper today for a theatrical performance |
| 12:01.30 | brokencluster | priscila hehe~ |
| 12:01.34 | ootput | bit of a brain fart |
| 12:02.50 | sinbaski | Anyway, I found /etc/bash.bashrc is sourced in the first line of /etc/profile. ? |
| 12:03.41 | sinbaski | And PATH is set after that file is sourced |
| 12:04.23 | freelancer | eek this hdd is making alot of noise tonight... :/ uhgg |
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| 12:08.03 | freelancer | impending failure |
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| 12:08.20 | Gnea | freelancer: got another? |
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| 12:08.44 | freelancer | Gnea nope |
| 12:08.57 | Gnea | freelancer: what's the make/model? |
| 12:09.09 | Ugly_Duck | recommendations: debmirror or apt-proxy? |
| 12:09.12 | freelancer | I have criticle files backed up to dvd... |
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| 12:09.18 | tbf | azeem: how do i mark the new package as branch? simply calling "dch -i" on postfix-2.1.5-9 would create postfix-2.1.5-10 which might conflict with future packages from the official branch |
| 12:09.25 | Gnea | nice |
| 12:09.42 | freelancer | Western Digital...just trying to remember the model... |
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| 12:10.22 | Gnea | freelancer: cat /proc/ide/hda/model |
| 12:11.00 | tbf | ah, dpkg-buildpackage accepts 2.1.5-9a as release number :-) |
| 12:11.09 | azeem | tbf: add -n |
| 12:11.32 | azeem | tbf: 2.1.5-9+tbf.1 or something might be better |
| 12:11.42 | tbf | azeem: ok |
| 12:11.44 | azeem | replace tbf with what you like |
| 12:11.49 | freelancer | iirc ...200JB |
| 12:12.16 | freelancer | its in my windows box... |
| 12:12.43 | Gnea | should be in the hardware settings |
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| 12:14.28 | freelancer | I was sami correct... |
| 12:14.59 | freelancer | it is a wd2000jb |
| 12:15.21 | freelancer | caviar se |
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| 12:15.47 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 12:16.07 | Gnea | freelancer: seems it's a regular occurance for that model: http://echeng.com/journal/index.php?p=903 |
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| 12:16.20 | Gnea | freelancer: i've replaced several before, too |
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| 12:16.48 | jonaskoelker | when I apt-get build-dep konqueror, I get 'E: Build-dependencies for konqueror could not be satisfied.'; how do I see what the build-deps of konqueror are? |
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| 12:17.11 | jonaskoelker | .. and where are they stored? |
| 12:17.22 | iKernel | Linux: The meaning of life divided by pi rounded to the nearest 100th. |
| 12:17.37 | freelancer | eek |
| 12:18.00 | iKernel | Linux: 42 / pi = 13.3690152, round it up from 9 ;) |
| 12:18.14 | jonaskoelker | lol |
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| 12:18.34 | devazion | iKernel: Just so you know... The meaning of life isnt 42, 42 is just the ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything. |
| 12:18.42 | freelancer | hrmm ... |
| 12:18.47 | ootput | yeah, get it right ;) |
| 12:18.52 | jonaskoelker | I was *just* about to say that |
| 12:18.53 | iKernel | Ah... right |
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| 12:18.58 | freelancer | interesting page that Gnea... |
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| 12:19.51 | iKernel | Linux: The ultimate answer to life, the universe and everything of life divided by pi rounded to the nearest 100th. |
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| 12:20.00 | iKernel | ack |
| 12:20.01 | iKernel | bah |
| 12:20.27 | jonaskoelker | iKernel: how much time did you spend in discovering that? :P |
| 12:20.54 | jonaskoelker | anyways... where are build-deps stored? I tried apt-cache show konqueror, and found exactly nothing which looked like that was it. |
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| 12:21.03 | ootput | i bet he messed up an equation calculating a percentage of pi |
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| 12:21.28 | freelancer | 431 days left of its warrantie |
| 12:22.19 | iKernel | jonaskoelker, Well, I've known that 42 is the meaning of life (well, what devazion said) for years (haven't thought about it much though), but I recently heard, some weeks back that 42 / pi = 13.3690152 |
| 12:22.27 | iKernel | and I made up my sentence |
| 12:22.34 | jonaskoelker | ah. |
| 12:22.57 | iKernel | somebody knew that 1337 had to fit in there somehow :) |
| 12:23.16 | jonaskoelker | I can imagine *someone* sitting with a long list of "interesting" numbers, going through all sorts of expressions involving them, looking for other "interesting" numbers |
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| 12:23.39 | ootput | course, you could always multiply with 100, seeing as how you're working with arithmetic ... |
| 12:23.52 | jonaskoelker | interestingly enough, leet is roughly 8.0/3 years... |
| 12:24.50 | iKernel | jonaskoelker, 8.0 is unecsseray, use 8 |
| 12:25.01 | stoned | if you look closely you will discover that this is #Debian |
| 12:25.16 | stoned | #math is elsewhere |
| 12:25.17 | jonaskoelker | iKernel: somebody is going to do integer division on that |
| 12:25.32 | ootput | iKernel: not as precise |
| 12:25.41 | jonaskoelker | stoned: and if you look really closely, you'll see that we just chit-chat while waiting for someone to answer my debian-specific question :P |
| 12:26.35 | Shadowcat | stoned: if you don't know that computer science is just applied mathematics |
| 12:26.48 | Shadowcat | you should REALLY go and get some better fundamentals |
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| 12:27.13 | jonaskoelker | anyways... does anyone know where the KBookmarkManager::save method is implemented? some kde library, I'd guess, but which? |
| 12:27.26 | Shadowcat | and that's a question for #kde |
| 12:27.49 | stoned | Shadowcat, boolean algebra and transistor logic has nothing to do with pi, l33t, or anything of the sort |
| 12:27.58 | stoned | kthx |
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| 12:28.39 | emeteo | hi |
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| 12:28.48 | jonaskoelker | hi, emeteo |
| 12:28.58 | emeteo | what package provides var/lib/debtags/package-tags.idxpkg ? It's missing in my instalation, and packagesearch doesn't run |
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| 12:29.25 | jonaskoelker | emeteo: try apt-file search (your filename) |
| 12:30.02 | emeteo | I don't have apt-file installed. I'll install it. |
| 12:30.18 | jonaskoelker | emeteo: be sure to `apt-file update' before searching |
| 12:30.19 | ootput | that won't give you any hits, though |
| 12:30.40 | emeteo | jonaskoelker: of course, it's running now ;-) |
| 12:30.47 | jonaskoelker | ... meh... ootput is (probably) right, since it's under /var/lib/... |
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| 12:32.19 | goron | What is a file called client.pat? |
| 12:32.48 | Gnea | goron: http://www.filext.com/ |
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| 12:33.51 | blondie | goron: "file client.pat" |
| 12:34.16 | iKernel | *sigh* I give up on the project that I was supposed to be doing all week. I'll have to hand it in next week. |
| 12:34.55 | iKernel | goron, You ever heard of: The Legend of Zelda? |
| 12:35.16 | goron | It's for the VPN I never use anymore. |
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| 12:36.03 | freelancer | not much I can do about it... |
| 12:38.05 | stoned | goron, I think you wanted an 'm' instead of a 'g' :D |
| 12:38.26 | iKernel | goron, yes/no? |
| 12:38.57 | goron | iKernel: yes, and my nick name has no relation to it. |
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| 12:39.36 | iKernel | goron, Where'd you get the name from then? |
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| 12:40.17 | stoned | iKernel, what MAC machine do you have? |
| 12:40.24 | iKernel | stoned, I don't. |
| 12:40.33 | stoned | oh, its just a i before a nick |
| 12:40.33 | stoned | heh |
| 12:41.01 | stoned | iKernel, I run sarge(testing) on my powerbook 3400c, laptop from 1997 |
| 12:41.08 | brokencluster | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.17 | goron | stoned: Just put a needle in your arm? |
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| 12:41.41 | stoned | goron, nah man, I'm just kiddin, you're nick is cool |
| 12:41.47 | stoned | your* |
| 12:42.25 | goron | Talking about a nick name is so 90's. |
| 12:42.43 | stoned | goron, no, its human nature, times change, but human nature stays constant |
| 12:42.52 | stoned | goron, I don't follow trends |
| 12:43.02 | goron | stoned: Maybe I evolved then. |
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| 12:43.33 | Gnea | freelancer: you could hit up pricewatch.com or ebay and find something |
| 12:43.51 | freelancer | Gnea thats an idea... |
| 12:43.54 | freelancer | thanks... |
| 12:44.26 | stoned | man I should update this laptop |
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| 12:44.35 | stoned | its running sarge/testing, lol |
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| 12:45.17 | Ronin | sarge/testing? |
| 12:45.18 | karim | hello |
| 12:45.26 | stoned | Ronin, yes |
| 12:45.33 | karim | does anyone manage to build something with apt-build ? |
| 12:45.38 | Ronin | its been that long since youve done an update stoned? heh |
| 12:45.56 | stoned | Ronin, long long time. It was I think last year during summer that I last updated |
| 12:45.58 | karim | I try to build a simple thing like joe, I do "apt-build install joe", and it fails with checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 12:46.01 | Brox | if i do /sbin/sysctl -w kernel.shmmax="536870912" i get error: unknown error 1 setting key 'kernel.shmmax' -- so i can't set it whatever it is... It has a different value (33554432). Could this be a reason for that my oracle-xe installation does not work? -- i got the command from /var/lib/dpkg/info/oracle-xe-universal.preinst and the error apears when i do apt-get install oracle-xe-universal |
| 12:46.46 | sonasks | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:48.07 | stoned | sonasks, man chmod |
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| 12:48.47 | stoned | sonasks, that will explain the permissions |
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| 12:49.26 | goron | karim: Yes, I did. Your system configuration must be broken. |
| 12:49.56 | karim | goron, hum |
| 12:50.15 | iKernel | q4 soon! q4 soon! :) :) |
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| 12:50.48 | goron | karim: Otherwise try to build something else. If that works, then the package is broken. |
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| 12:50.56 | karim | ok |
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| 12:52.20 | goron | "MS-DOS executable PE for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bit" I wonder how I got this file. |
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| 12:55.17 | Gnea | !xorg |
| 12:55.18 | dpkg | hmm... xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R7.0. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 12:55.25 | Gnea | !xorg7 |
| 12:55.25 | dpkg | Find some solutions at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 in order to fix problems from 6.9 to 7 |
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| 12:57.56 | kriel | okay, can someone help me try and get my sound card to work? the only thing i've done so far is found out that my audio card has a via-vtxx chipset and modprobe via-vtxx returns an error... |
| 12:58.40 | Gnea | !sound |
| 12:58.40 | dpkg | i heard sound is ask me about <alsa-bork>, <alsa for morons>, <ac97>, <audio>, <dmix>, <esound> and <arts>. For sarge go to http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 12:59.00 | Gnea | !alsa for morons |
| 12:59.00 | dpkg | alsa for morons is, like, 1) remove all sound-related kernel modules 2) run alsaconf 3) disable all sound servers 4) hope, or echo -e "snd-your-module" >> /etc/modules && reboot |
| 12:59.43 | Gnea | ah, finally have ctrl-alt-function keys back again |
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| 13:01.54 | kriel | !tell kriel ac97 |
| 13:02.39 | kriel | !tell kriel about ac97 |
| 13:03.16 | stoned | kriel, /msg dpkg ac97 |
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| 13:04.55 | Levente | Hey folks, I have set up exim4 with gnutls, and each morning it takes hours to generate certificate. It's becose /dev/random. Do you know some way to make it faster? |
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| 13:05.59 | iKernel | sound isn't working |
| 13:06.02 | iKernel | snd_pcm_writei failed: Broken pipe |
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| 13:06.32 | maketo | hi, can anyone recommend a multinic board for my debian box? the only ones I found are mikrotik and they are based somewhere in ex-Soviet Union, I am reluctant to give away my credit card on their website... |
| 13:07.31 | iKernel | bah |
| 13:07.34 | iKernel | good night |
| 13:07.36 | iKernel | i am going to bed |
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| 13:08.56 | rostam | hi |
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| 13:09.28 | pipeline | maketo: Sun QFE |
| 13:09.35 | pipeline | maketo: Intel makes one, too |
| 13:10.05 | rostam | can someone help me. i need a ftp-daemon wich is small (for a 500mhz pc) but secure and modern |
| 13:10.10 | rostam | ideas? |
| 13:10.21 | petemc | proftpd works for me |
| 13:10.23 | pipeline | rostam: A 500 MHz PC is only about ten times as fast a machine as you would need to run the world's most bloated FTP daemon. |
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| 13:10.38 | pipeline | rostam: What matters a lot more than processor speed is *I/O* |
| 13:10.41 | ivan_ | hallo |
| 13:10.45 | pipeline | rostam: Don't use ISA slots... |
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| 13:10.54 | maketo | pipeline: thanks! I just found soekris.com too |
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| 13:11.12 | pipeline | maketo: eeeesh; soekris primarily makes embedded computers |
| 13:11.22 | Goneri | rostam: vsftpd is fast simple and secure |
| 13:11.31 | rostam | pipeline, and what would you recommend me |
| 13:11.53 | pipeline | rostam: I'm not going to recommend you anything. FTP is a legacy protocol that needs to die. |
| 13:12.01 | rostam | Goneri, do you know of a vsftp tutorial? |
| 13:12.47 | rostam | pipeline, what else to use to upload things on a server from any place? |
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| 13:13.05 | valdyn | rostam: ssh |
| 13:13.14 | Goneri | rostam: google? |
| 13:13.19 | pipeline | rostam: scponly + winscp |
| 13:13.40 | kriel | -soft sigh- any ideas where i could find via82xx ? i think its already supposed to be in the kernel, but modprobe isn't finding it... |
| 13:13.59 | valdyn | rostam: ftp is really a bad idea for _uploading_ things |
| 13:14.17 | valdyn | kriel: you forgot one x? |
| 13:14.43 | valdyn | kriel: or are you referring to the audio driver? |
| 13:14.53 | kriel | valdyn: copied from dpkg: snd-via82xx |
| 13:15.03 | kriel | valdyn: yeah.. |
| 13:15.04 | valdyn | kriel: uname -r |
| 13:15.26 | kriel | valdyn: 2.4.27-2-686 |
| 13:15.32 | valdyn | !alsa 2.4 |
| 13:15.32 | dpkg | First, you need to build the ALSA modules for your kernel. apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential debhelper; then read "man m-a". Finally, ask me about <alsa>. |
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| 13:16.01 | valdyn | kriel: or install a 2.6 kernel |
| 13:16.11 | valdyn | !alsa |
| 13:16.11 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist>, or http://alsa-project.org/ |
| 13:16.20 | kriel | valdyn: isn't that etch, though? the unstable one? |
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| 13:16.27 | valdyn | kriel: no |
| 13:16.42 | valdyn | kriel: sarge/stable has always had a 2.6 kernel |
| 13:16.56 | kriel | valdyn: ... oh. ... >> ... ... -sneaks off to upgrade kernel- |
| 13:17.07 | TraceGreen | Hello, My Windows partitions are not mounted. "Superblock error",and i can't not start my Windows |
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| 13:17.26 | TraceGreen | anymore, are there any tools to help me to find lost data? |
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| 13:17.42 | abrotman | TraceGreen: did debian do this? |
| 13:17.44 | TraceGreen | I may crash my windows partitions. |
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| 13:17.53 | JoelR | Hello, one question, if i'm gonna use Xorg do i need to install x-window-system? |
| 13:18.02 | valdyn | TraceGreen: is that a debian question? |
| 13:18.09 | abrotman | valdyn: care to place bets? |
| 13:18.11 | TraceGreen | abrotman, oh, i just ask whether linux has such data recovery tool. |
| 13:18.15 | valdyn | abrotman: yea! |
| 13:18.31 | abrotman | TraceGreen: try ##linux |
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| 13:18.56 | TraceGreen | abrotman, ok. so many important files on my windows. |
| 13:19.09 | valdyn | JoelR: weird question , x-windows-system is not required to run any X |
| 13:19.10 | abrotman | TraceGreen: hint #1) Don't put important files on Windows |
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| 13:19.30 | valdyn | JoelR: x-window-system-core is, even with xorg, at least up to 6.9 |
| 13:19.49 | valdyn | !backup |
| 13:19.49 | dpkg | methinks backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use tar (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression) |
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| 13:20.10 | JoelR | valdyn: wtf? and when am i supposed to install it then? |
| 13:20.30 | TraceGreen | valdyn, anyway, thanks |
| 13:20.44 | christor | PLease I m searching help to resolve a mysql prob, I have reinstalled my debian and I have a probleme to import my mysqlDB. I have a this error message ERROR 1064 at line 23: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1' at line 8 |
| 13:20.46 | blaa | debhelper how to start in debian? |
| 13:20.53 | christor | Someone can help me to resolve my prob? |
| 13:21.17 | pipeline | christor: I'd take that message at faice value and assume there is in fact a syntax error at line eight. |
| 13:21.38 | chealer9 | blaa: debhelper is an eggdrop bot |
| 13:21.49 | christor | pipeline: the DB was exported using mysqldump command |
| 13:22.10 | valdyn | JoelR: what are you trying to do? why is that a question of 'when' ? |
| 13:22.29 | valdyn | JoelR: how are you installing xorg on which debian release? |
| 13:23.23 | JoelR | valdyn: i installed sarge, and now i just upgraded to etch |
| 13:23.33 | JoelR | but now is when i'm going to install X packages.. |
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| 13:23.48 | JoelR | so i don¡t know if i need x-window-system.. |
| 13:23.51 | valdyn | JoelR: alright, just run 'apt-get install x-window-system-core' |
| 13:24.07 | valdyn | JoelR: x-window-system gets more and cruft that you dont need too |
| 13:24.29 | valdyn | JoelR: but... both should work for you |
| 13:24.49 | JoelR | valdyn: ok, i'm gonna try this.. thanks :) |
| 13:25.15 | valdyn | JoelR: i hate useless font servers, that is why i dont use or recommend the 'x-window-system' metapackage |
| 13:25.16 | JoelR | valdyn: if i don't install either core or x-window-system my X won't work, right? |
| 13:25.54 | valdyn | JoelR: well, thats technically incorrect as the purpose of both metapackages is only to pull the 'real' packages. Technically you do not need either of those 2 |
| 13:26.30 | valdyn | JoelR: use one of both, they are there for you conenience only |
| 13:26.40 | valdyn | convenience even |
| 13:28.45 | Mash | topic |
| 13:28.49 | Mash | ah sorry |
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| 13:31.06 | jimMmy | could some tell my why my console fonts are getting darker/less brither after executing /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh i am using kernel 2.6.16.17 and the video card is ati rage 128 |
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| 13:36.50 | mrplasmo | is there such a program that shows me in real time what commands a user that is logged in is executing? |
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| 13:37.04 | Shadowcat | why would you need such information? |
| 13:37.06 | valdyn | mrplasmo: time |
| 13:37.17 | valdyn | mrplasmo: uh, a summary? |
| 13:37.17 | mrplasmo | for security reasons |
| 13:37.28 | mrplasmo | like every keystoke |
| 13:37.32 | Shadowcat | security reasons? |
| 13:37.32 | GoAuLd | mrplasmo : ttysnoop |
| 13:37.33 | Shadowcat | wtf |
| 13:37.43 | Shadowcat | WHY would you need such a thing |
| 13:37.49 | Shadowcat | it looks to me like you're looking for a keylogger |
| 13:37.57 | GoAuLd | mrplasmo: or snoopy |
| 13:38.05 | valdyn | mrplasmo: how are keystrokes related to cpu time? |
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| 13:38.12 | mrplasmo | thanks |
| 13:38.12 | valdyn | mrplasmo: worried he's going to type to fast? |
| 13:38.19 | Shadowcat | GoAuLd: don't tell him, not yet |
| 13:38.32 | Shadowcat | mrplasmo: WHY do you need tools like that |
| 13:38.39 | peppo | I'm trying to compile bmp-mac (a Beep Media Player plugin for APE/Monkey's Audio), and it wants to link to libXcursor.la, which doesn't exist in the Debian package for libxcursor1. how can I solve this? |
| 13:38.54 | GoAuLd | mrplasmo: its for fucking people right? |
| 13:38.58 | goron | Is it possible to limit the bandwidth apt-get uses? |
| 13:39.00 | valdyn | peppo: so install it |
| 13:39.05 | mrplasmo | I have suspisions about a user on my network |
| 13:39.15 | Shadowcat | mrplasmo: about what? |
| 13:39.18 | peppo | valdyn, what do you mean? the package doesn't contain it. nor does -dev. |
| 13:39.26 | valdyn | peppo: .la files are only needed for development, so they are in -dev packages |
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| 13:39.34 | valdyn | peppo: probably libxcursor-dev |
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| 13:39.52 | Shadowcat | you know keyloggers are illegal in some places |
| 13:39.55 | mrplasmo | on ttysnoop wont work for it |
| 13:40.00 | mrplasmo | its a remote user |
| 13:40.07 | mrplasmo | I need one for pts/1 |
| 13:40.11 | Shadowcat | again, WHY |
| 13:40.15 | Shadowcat | tell us why and we'll help you |
| 13:40.21 | GoAuLd | mrplasmo: tell me why |
| 13:40.26 | peppo | valdyn, nope, not there. |
| 13:40.28 | mrplasmo | to see what my friend is doing on my computer |
| 13:40.30 | mrplasmo | why not |
| 13:40.37 | Shadowcat | that's not a good enough reason |
| 13:40.39 | valdyn | mrplasmo: make him use screen, man screen |
| 13:40.41 | GoAuLd | only if its evil reason ill help you |
| 13:40.50 | valdyn | mrplasmo: or make him use typescript |
| 13:40.55 | mrplasmo | nah |
| 13:40.57 | mrplasmo | I want to see |
| 13:41.04 | mrplasmo | be a network monitor |
| 13:41.17 | Shadowcat | mrplasmo: that's not monitoring a network, that's downright spying |
| 13:41.25 | mrplasmo | oh well |
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| 13:41.29 | mrplasmo | it's MY system |
| 13:41.32 | valdyn | mrplasmo: monitoring his ssh data wont be fun, or interesting |
| 13:41.41 | Shadowcat | yes and if you don't want your friend using it, then don't let him |
| 13:41.53 | mrplasmo | and I stated that I reserve the right to monitor all users activites at ANY time WITHOUT warning. |
| 13:41.57 | goron | mrplasmo: you want man watch |
| 13:42.15 | Shadowcat | mrplasmo: in that case you better figure out the tools yourself |
| 13:42.21 | Shadowcat | goron: don't help him |
| 13:42.25 | GoAuLd | meplasmo: you voted bush dont you? haha |
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| 13:42.30 | Shadowcat | he wants to log keystrokes of his friends using his ssh |
| 13:42.46 | blondie | GoAuLd: don't you have to be over 18 to vote? ;) |
| 13:42.48 | petemc | Shadowcat: and? |
| 13:42.49 | goron | Shadowcat: Oh, that's pretty lame. |
| 13:42.53 | mrplasmo | yes |
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| 13:43.09 | Shadowcat | petemc: there are better ways to monitor people which don't involve keyloggers |
| 13:43.16 | goron | Shadowcat: I once let a stranger on my system with user rights, but I wanted to know what he was doing. So, then I used it. |
| 13:43.20 | petemc | Shadowcat: you seem to be judging him, you shouldnt do that |
| 13:43.25 | Shadowcat | especially since that friend's probably trusting you NOT to do that |
| 13:43.29 | mrplasmo | I dont want a keylogger |
| 13:43.37 | goron | Shadowcat: It was very cool to see someone else working on my system. |
| 13:43.37 | Shadowcat | logging keystrokes == keylogger |
| 13:43.56 | Shadowcat | petemc: read the whole conversation, and you'll see why |
| 13:43.59 | mrplasmo | I want to monitor |
| 13:44.00 | mrplasmo | not log |
| 13:44.01 | goron | I have a MS keyboard, I wonder whether it has one... |
| 13:44.05 | mrplasmo | there's a difference |
| 13:44.15 | Shadowcat | mrplasmo: then read syslog or something |
| 13:44.17 | tralala | mrplasmo: is your friend willing to cooperate with you, i.e. let you watch him? |
| 13:44.17 | petemc | Shadowcat: i have done, i think its not your place to make any comments, really |
| 13:44.24 | mrplasmo | why are you being such a nazi anyway Shadowcat? |
| 13:44.35 | mrplasmo | yes |
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| 13:44.58 | Shadowcat | mrplasmo: because I think that if you're gonna use that technology you better have a damn good reason |
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| 13:45.08 | Shadowcat | like catching someone stealing credit information |
| 13:45.21 | petemc | ... |
| 13:45.22 | GoAuLd | mrplasmo i know a program doing that, like if it was your session and not them, controling everything in real time with posibility to interfere |
| 13:45.33 | Shadowcat | snooping on a friend doesn't constitute a good enough reason |
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| 13:45.40 | Ronin | we'd be stepping outside for a talk mrplasmo if you did that on me and i was your "friend: why not just ask them |
| 13:46.03 | tralala | mrplasmo: then use a shared screen session. He will start it and you will join it watching what he's doing. |
| 13:46.07 | spoof | can i use runit with bootchart in the same time |
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| 13:46.13 | spoof | ? |
| 13:46.30 | Shadowcat | friends should be able to have enough trust in each other to not use keyloggers |
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| 13:46.47 | tralala | Shadowcat: I think we've got your point. |
| 13:47.13 | k31th | What normally causes a apache forbidden error? |
| 13:47.30 | blondie | lack of access |
| 13:47.32 | goron | GoAuLd: /msg me that program, please. |
| 13:47.54 | GoAuLd | for what you want? |
| 13:48.00 | GoAuLd | xD |
| 13:48.12 | goron | GoAuLd: "iknow a program doing that, like if it was your session and not them," |
| 13:48.40 | SubStack | man script |
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| 13:49.12 | GoAuLd | ttysnoop worked fine for me 4 years ago |
| 13:49.16 | boeser_mensch | hi @ all |
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| 13:50.15 | darkness_ | I want to download a webpage template to replace mt apache placeholder. Can i just download it into the apache folder? |
| 13:50.44 | valdyn | darkness_: why does your downloading user have access to /var/www ? |
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| 13:51.30 | mrplasmo | why is debian getting such old software versions? |
| 13:51.38 | blondie | what does that mean? |
| 13:51.40 | mrplasmo | I need a source for newer versions |
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| 13:51.56 | mrplasmo | like asterisk 1.0.2 |
| 13:51.57 | blondie | if you use stable (sarge) then you won't get any new ones |
| 13:51.59 | darso | Hey, anyone knows how to get the best repos? |
| 13:52.04 | mrplasmo | I am |
| 13:52.13 | mrplasmo | can I use some other source for newer software? |
| 13:52.20 | tralala | mrplasmo: backports.org |
| 13:52.33 | mrplasmo | how do I add it to apt-sources? |
| 13:52.40 | Ronin | mrplasmo: think you best read up on debian release policy or whatever its called, sarge only get security updates, |
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| 13:53.37 | Ronin | testing gets newer software and you sell your soul if you run sid/unstable ;) |
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| 13:54.50 | tralala | testing is pretty bad as well if all you want is simply your programmes to work |
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| 13:56.17 | chealer9 | mrplasmo: which release do you use? |
| 13:56.41 | Ronin | sounds like sarge i bet |
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| 13:57.15 | chealer9 | Ronin: doesn't to me, asterisk 1.0.2 is a downgrade for sarge |
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| 13:57.27 | stoned | Ronin, I have no soul |
| 13:57.49 | Ronin | chealer9: true but complainin about old packages made me think sarge |
| 13:58.07 | Ronin | stoned: me neither but then i work for the govt so im not expected to have one |
| 13:58.23 | blondie | souls don't exist |
| 13:58.23 | stoned | lol |
| 13:58.41 | stoned | soul == force which animates life |
| 13:58.49 | Ronin | blondie: point of view but also way way OT :) |
| 13:58.53 | blondie | soul = load of mumbo jumbo rubbish :P |
| 13:58.54 | stoned | take it as whatever meaning you want |
| 13:59.20 | petemc | blondie: you have evidence that souls dont exist? |
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| 13:59.36 | blondie | you have evidence that they do? |
| 13:59.41 | petemc | 'course not |
| 13:59.43 | blondie | I have common sense. |
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| 14:00.13 | stoned | blondie, common is dependant on culture, time period, majority view |
| 14:00.15 | tralala | blondie: now *that* particular claim will be really tough to prove |
| 14:00.22 | petemc | Ronin: small off topic conversations, while perhaps annoying to some, arent bannable offences |
| 14:00.25 | Maulkin | Ronin: About another 6 lines... |
| 14:00.36 | jlaw | soul == the answer for live people use who are to lazy to ask the right questions and search for reasonable answers |
| 14:00.38 | stoned | common != univeral |
| 14:01.04 | Gnea | stoned's mom != pure |
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| 14:01.27 | stoned | Gnea, why would you talk about my mom? Very disrespectul |
| 14:01.28 | Maulkin | Ronin: Mind you, I don't really care if there isn't anyone actually wanting support. |
| 14:01.55 | dany | hi |
| 14:01.58 | stoned | Gnea, you should be ashamed of yourself. Don't attack my mom |
| 14:02.06 | Gnea | stoned: how so? it's just as offtopic as talk of the soul. |
| 14:02.06 | dany | i have a big problem with glibc and my apt |
| 14:02.19 | dany | it s totall blocked now cna t upgrade glibc |
| 14:02.22 | Gnea | stoned: if i was attacking your mom, i'd be in handcuffs. |
| 14:02.35 | dany | A copy of glibc was found in an unexpected directory. |
| 14:02.37 | dany | ..... |
| 14:02.50 | stoned | Gnea, grow up? |
| 14:02.52 | Gnea | dany: oh? |
| 14:02.59 | dany | yeah |
| 14:03.09 | dany | i spend hours googling on it |
| 14:03.12 | dany | without results |
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| 14:03.21 | valdyn | dany: where was it found? |
| 14:03.23 | Gnea | stoned: care to take your shit attitude and go elsewhere? |
| 14:03.25 | tralala | stoned: relax man, this is irc. If you don't want to read certain things here there are at least a few commands that could help. |
| 14:03.28 | jlaw | oh ... the offtopic discussion again ... dpkg should be advanced with a statement for "topic" |
| 14:03.33 | dany | Matching libraries: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 14:03.36 | dany | just say that |
| 14:03.40 | stoned | tralala, you're right |
| 14:03.41 | dany | then the error |
| 14:03.58 | mosty | i am trying to get an initramfs initrd to work, the file is reference from my lilo.conf, and i reran lilo, but my kernel just boots without using the initrd. what could be wrong? |
| 14:04.03 | stoned | tralala, but that is no justification for this asshole talking shit about my mom |
| 14:04.06 | stoned | Gnea, welcome to ignore |
| 14:04.07 | dany | wich files must i search ?? |
| 14:04.09 | Gnea | dany: those look sane, where else is the problem manifesting? |
| 14:04.16 | Gnea | stoned: awesome. |
| 14:04.20 | valdyn | dany: why is it there? |
| 14:04.28 | valdyn | dany: its not on my system like that, but i run sid |
| 14:04.52 | dany | it s when try to apt-get upgrade |
| 14:04.58 | valdyn | !find usr/lib/libc.so.6 |
| 14:05.02 | dany | i don t know that s why i m there |
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| 14:05.16 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'usr/lib/libc.so.6' returned no results. |
| 14:05.19 | valdyn | dany: run dpkg -S on it? |
| 14:05.20 | Gnea | dany: what branch are you running? |
| 14:05.24 | jlaw | stoned ... i bet he tries to compensate something, maybe his mom sweats when shitting or something |
| 14:05.25 | dany | sid |
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| 14:05.38 | raf256 | on freshly installed Debian |
| 14:05.38 | Gnea | jlaw: i wouldn't doube it :) |
| 14:05.41 | raf256 | how can I watch a DVD? |
| 14:05.44 | Gnea | er, doubt |
| 14:05.55 | valdyn | dany: ls /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 14:05.56 | mosty | raf256, install mplayer from the marillat apt source |
| 14:06.00 | Gnea | !dvd |
| 14:06.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dvd is use xine (xine-ui for X11 or kaffeine for KDE), vlc or ogle (or okle for KDE, supposed to be inferior to kaffeine) to play video DVDs, or ask me about decss, or ask me about libdvdcss |
| 14:06.01 | dany | wait |
| 14:06.03 | stoned | jlaw, its ok man, just because he disrespected my mom, doesn't make me or anyoene else justified in disrespecting his in return |
| 14:06.09 | dany | i have it in /usr/lib nom |
| 14:06.10 | dany | now |
| 14:06.13 | raf256 | mosty: I do not need deCSS and so on? or will it auto-install? |
| 14:06.22 | valdyn | dany: yes, its NOT supposed to be there |
| 14:06.30 | dany | ls /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 14:06.30 | dany | /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 14:06.40 | dany | so i just remove it in /usr/lib? |
| 14:06.51 | Gnea | sad part is, i didn't disrespect his mom. she had him, after all :) |
| 14:06.53 | raf256 | what about deCSS and DVD? I do not need deCSS and so on? or will it auto-install? |
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| 14:07.06 | valdyn | dany: look up your libc.so in /lib first, where its linking to etc |
| 14:07.07 | mosty | raf256, decss is outdated. mplayer comes with libreaddvd or something which does the same but is much faster |
| 14:07.14 | raf256 | mosty: thanks |
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| 14:07.23 | jlaw | stoned, i need no justification ... i esteem myself as justification ^^ |
| 14:07.23 | dany | k wait valdyn |
| 14:07.31 | kriel | hey... any ideas why the cd player would stop working in gnome? everything is all the way up in the mixer... |
| 14:07.36 | Gnea | raf256: make sure libdvdread3 is installed and read the docs |
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| 14:07.44 | azeem | kriel: stop working how? |
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| 14:07.48 | azeem | did it work before? |
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| 14:07.52 | dany | ls -al | grep libc.so |
| 14:07.52 | dany | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-04-19 02:16 libc.so.6 -> libc-2.3.6.so |
| 14:07.54 | dany | good? |
| 14:07.59 | ankur | i want a user "cvs" to have root permission. /etc/passwd contains cvs:x:1002:0::/home/cvs: still it doesnot get root privilages. |
| 14:08.01 | Gnea | mosty: there is a debianized method for making it work. |
| 14:08.04 | stoned | jlaw, :) Its all good. I am just not as immature or rude as Gnea |
| 14:08.12 | raf256 | Gnea: will it auto install etc (with Marilliat) or I have to do manully some voo-doo? |
| 14:08.13 | SlayerXP | ankur: errm no, you don't want that. |
| 14:08.13 | azeem | ankur: why root? |
| 14:08.17 | mosty | gnea: just add the apt source and apt-get install it :/ |
| 14:08.23 | Gnea | !troll stoned |
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| 14:08.29 | kriel | azeem: just... not work. no, no sound worked before, but it has worked on another os, so it's not hardware. |
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| 14:08.36 | raf256 | !smite stoned |
| 14:08.39 | raf256 | !trollsmite stoned |
| 14:08.45 | kriel | azeem: everything else works. all the other sound. just no cd player. |
| 14:08.45 | azeem | kriel: so sound works, but not CD playing? |
| 14:08.50 | valdyn | dany: ldd /bin/cp |
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| 14:08.58 | azeem | kriel: did you try playing via sound-juicer? |
| 14:08.59 | mosty | raf256, or you can compile mplayer yourself. it even comes with the bits to build a .deb |
| 14:09.04 | ankur | azeem : i want so that any one having root pri. can access cvs repository |
| 14:09.04 | valdyn | dany: dont paste the whole output but tell against which libc is linking |
| 14:09.10 | raf256 | Gnea: playing DVD will work autoamticly (with marilliat) or I need voodo |
| 14:09.11 | dany | ok |
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| 14:09.27 | azeem | ankur: I believe there are better ways to do that |
| 14:09.28 | dany | /lib/libc.so.6 |
| 14:09.30 | valdyn | dany: since you would need that to restore any libc* in /usr/lib |
| 14:09.34 | valdyn | dany: looks good |
| 14:09.36 | stoned | Excuse me, I was the one was attacked for no reason, my family was talked about, I was disrespected, yet I chose not to retalitate or say anything mean or rude, an I AM A TROLL? |
| 14:09.36 | azeem | (W 23 |
| 14:09.36 | dany | libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xa7ddd000) |
| 14:09.36 | azeem | eh |
| 14:09.39 | mosty | raf256, or install vlc, it supports dvd menus |
| 14:09.39 | stoned | fucking let it go already |
| 14:09.41 | stoned | jeez |
| 14:09.42 | ankur | azeem : for example |
| 14:09.45 | Gnea | ankur: all you've done is placed cvs in the root group - that's a bad thing |
| 14:10.00 | dany | so ?? |
| 14:10.02 | kriel | azeem: not yet. all i've tried is gnome-cd |
| 14:10.06 | Gnea | stoned: then shut up and talk about something else |
| 14:10.17 | valdyn | dany: i have no idea how your /usr/lib/libc.so.6 can have gotten there |
| 14:10.23 | valdyn | dany: feel free to remove it anyway |
| 14:10.24 | azeem | kriel: gnome-cd uses direct play, maybe your CD player is not connected to your sound card |
| 14:10.27 | dany | i remove the libc in /usr/lib? |
| 14:10.28 | dany | ok |
| 14:10.30 | dany | i try |
| 14:10.42 | Gnea | dany: did you check the md5sum? |
| 14:10.44 | azeem | kriel: sound-juicer rips the CD at 1x and pipes the sound to the soundcard I believe, so it should always work |
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| 14:10.46 | kriel | azeem: ... that's it... xx;; |
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| 14:11.03 | kriel | azeem: cause i didn't have an audio cable when i built this compy. |
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| 14:11.41 | dany | woo |
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| 14:11.45 | phaedrus_ | hello... |
| 14:11.50 | dany | ok it s working thx valdyn and others ;) |
| 14:11.52 | phaedrus_ | how can i kill a process thats going? |
| 14:12.06 | valdyn | phaedrus_: kill <pid> |
| 14:12.08 | streuner | phaedrus_: man kill |
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| 14:12.14 | phaedrus_ | how do i find the pid? |
| 14:12.24 | streuner | via ps |
| 14:12.28 | valdyn | phaedrus_: kill `pidof name` |
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| 14:12.36 | streuner | if you want it easier just use 'skill -c app.' |
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| 14:13.28 | kspath | phaedrus_: man 7 signal |
| 14:14.01 | phaedrus_ | anyway to list the processes gopinig on? |
| 14:14.08 | phaedrus_ | *going |
| 14:14.09 | Knorrie | phaedrus_: ps afxu |
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| 14:14.18 | jair | hello guys, the error: ENOMEM is normally related to mysql and Linux right? |
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| 14:15.20 | kspath | phaedrus_: man ps;man pgrep;man pkill;man skill ? |
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| 14:16.55 | JJS | hey |
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| 14:18.15 | JJS | i have just compilled my Asus WL-167G Wifi USB adapter but when i try to inset the module i get # insmod rt2570.o |
| 14:18.15 | JJS | insmod: error inserting 'rt2570.o': -1 Invalid module format |
| 14:18.52 | Gnea | JJS: how did you compile it? |
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| 14:19.03 | JJS | make |
| 14:19.15 | Gnea | with what kernel? |
| 14:19.17 | JJS | selecting a makefile and just rand make |
| 14:19.24 | stoned | How long did it take Gnea's mom to take a shit? Nine months |
| 14:19.31 | JJS | 2.6.8-3-386 |
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| 14:20.06 | Gnea | and that's AFTER i pm'd him saying that i didn't mean anything by it. |
| 14:20.16 | jair | I am having an error in one of the servers: "ENOMEM in get_transaction, retrying." |
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| 14:20.39 | Youpi | hi |
| 14:20.41 | jair | I think it have to be with the mysql and the system |
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| 14:20.59 | valdyn | jair: Error No Memory |
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| 14:23.01 | valdyn | JJS: that isnt a kernel module for your kernel, never use insmod either |
| 14:23.38 | JJS | valdyn, .ko |
| 14:23.53 | JJS | rt2570.ko |
| 14:24.00 | JJS | not rt2570.o |
| 14:24.08 | JJS | sorry |
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| 14:28.13 | intx | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 14:28.22 | intx | how do I get rid of that message, without correcting the dependencies? |
| 14:29.12 | intx | or rather, how do I manually edit the dependencies of a deb file? |
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| 14:34.15 | Ronin | why would yo uwant to do that intx, sort of asking for trouble isn it |
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| 14:36.13 | john_doe | What module should I load to get information about the battery charge level on a laptop? |
| 14:37.14 | fourat | how can i know wich application is using wich port in netstat |
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| 14:38.37 | lepton | fourat: lsof can tell you |
| 14:38.40 | loumz | fourat: netstat -p |
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| 14:39.53 | kspath | fourat: man netstat;man fuser;man lsof |
| 14:40.06 | fourat | ok it's good thx |
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| 14:48.26 | snickel1650 | hey, is there any way I can decrease the menu font sizes in KDE? |
| 14:48.48 | MrHart | can someone help with apt get? |
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| 14:48.59 | MrHart | E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 14:48.59 | MrHart | E: Error occured while processing xchat (NewVersion1) |
| 14:48.59 | MrHart | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 14:49.50 | petemc | !tell MrHart about mmap |
| 14:49.57 | petemc | also, no need to paste |
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| 14:50.16 | abrotman | snickel1650: ask #debian-kde |
| 14:50.22 | jair | valdyn: so then that error means that is to many memory used by Oracle which is the database that is running on the system. |
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| 14:50.46 | wiskywisky | hello guys, how was the yestarday guru in kernel sata that was helping me? |
| 14:50.48 | chealer9 | john_doe: perhaps battery would help |
| 14:51.14 | wiskywisky | how can I make group to load /dev/sda5 instead of /dev/hda5? |
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| 14:52.29 | wiskywisky | my grub have something like root (hd0, 4) ?? |
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| 14:52.48 | wiskywisky | but changing it to root (sd0, 4) doesn't seems to work... |
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| 14:53.06 | jair | valdyn: but it looks like the cron send the message and then everthing continue working the same. So I will assume that the database try to get more mero and then the system say "nomem" but get the swap memory. and then everything continue normal. |
| 14:53.41 | jair | valdyn: so the ENOMEM appear when the physical memory limit has been reached? |
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| 14:54.06 | jair | valdyn: or is when all the memory physical and swap has been reached :(? |
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| 14:55.27 | JoelR_ | One question, where is smbmount in debian? i installed samba, samba-common and it doesnt have it |
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| 14:56.14 | qwertz | Hi, is there a description which options for wlan connections are available in /etc/network/interfaces? essid and key for example |
| 14:56.24 | petemc | JoelR_: smbfs |
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| 14:56.57 | kspath | wiskywisky: See /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/html/ for details. ? |
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| 14:57.17 | wiskywisky | kspath, thanks I'll |
| 14:57.20 | MrHart | hmm...no right to write :-( |
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| 14:59.10 | Adri2000 | hi |
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| 14:59.35 | wiskywisky | if i get waiting for files system on boot that means that grub is passing the wrong root= argument right? |
| 14:59.37 | jair | valdyn: ?? |
| 14:59.59 | Gnea | wiskywisky: no, that would result in a kernel panic |
| 15:00.11 | kspath | I did not have a grub-doc so I personally had to apt-get install grub-doc |
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| 15:00.41 | JoelR_ | ok other question, i'm in a network that uses internal mail by Microsoft Mail with a path like \\server\mail, how could i configure this in my evolution? |
| 15:00.45 | Adri2000 | i have a provlem with my locales, "locale" says "POSIX" for everything, i dpkg-reconfigure locale and locale-gen, but it's always POSIX |
| 15:00.51 | Adri2000 | problem* |
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| 15:01.26 | karrot-x | hey is there a tool to convert from m4a to mp3 in debian? |
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| 15:01.56 | snickel1650 | I've figured out how to adjust most of the fonts in kde, but I haven't found out how to adjust the font size within the konqueror explorer window. The menu fonts are fine, but the font that accompanies the icons are still huge |
| 15:01.57 | pipeline | karrot-x: That's not really a good idea in any case. |
| 15:02.00 | petemc | karrot-x: mencoder or ffmpeg perhaps |
| 15:02.07 | yohu123 | is anyone now here that can help me mount my ipods linux partition in colinux? |
| 15:02.17 | kspath | JoelR_: found this using google http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/documentation.shtml |
| 15:02.26 | petemc | yohu123: does colinux have access to the usb hardware? |
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| 15:03.09 | abrotman | snickel1650: ask #debian-kde |
| 15:03.22 | kspath | !tell snickel1650 about kde |
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| 15:04.31 | Adri2000 | i have a problem with my locales, "locale" says "POSIX" for everything, i dpkg-reconfigure locale and locale-gen, but it's always POSIX |
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| 15:05.37 | yohu123 | petemc: yes, i can mount my windows partition in colinux, but not the linux partition |
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| 15:07.22 | petemc | yohu123: thats not entirely the same thing, is your ipod mentioned in dmesg on the colinux box when you plug it in? |
| 15:07.46 | yohu123 | how do i check that petemc? |
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| 15:08.00 | petemc | type dmesg |
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| 15:09.16 | kspath | yohu123: http://wiki.colinux.org/mediawiki/index.php/Nicksandnames |
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| 15:10.41 | yohu123 | im already at colinux |
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| 15:14.01 | MDC | ipsec routing problem; tunnel is working fine but cant ping any host behind the vpnmachine, any ideas? |
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| 15:14.58 | yohu123 | ok petemc, this is what i get when i type dmesg : http://pastebin.com/737186 |
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| 15:15.10 | kspath | MDC: What is your tunnel tunneling? |
| 15:15.39 | kspath | MDC: UDP? TCP? ICMP? other? |
| 15:15.40 | MDC | kspath; ip packages? or what do you mean? |
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| 15:15.57 | MDC | kspath; for the moment only icmp |
| 15:16.07 | Rockj | do I have restart any services before stuff in /etc/hosts.allow/deny takes effect? |
| 15:16.19 | petemc | no |
| 15:16.32 | yohu123 | you telling me petemc? |
| 15:16.37 | petemc | yohu123: no mention of any ipod there |
| 15:16.46 | petemc | no, that "no" was for Rockj |
| 15:17.25 | MDC | kspath; but other protocols doesnt work neither |
| 15:17.29 | Rockj | hum. I must doing something odd when I try to add a ip for allowing access to mysqld then. =/ |
| 15:18.39 | yohu123 | but a windows tool called ltools does access the ext2 partition on my ipod. but it only allows me to copy/paste and delete stuff from there. it doesnt allow me to run linux based commands |
| 15:18.43 | kspath | Rockj: study tcp wrappers after you confirm your mysqld config/permissions/access is correct and if firewall is in place or not and configured correctly. |
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| 15:20.22 | ribnitz | heyas |
| 15:20.28 | petemc | yohu123: well, windows has access to the ipod via usb, it would appear colinux doesnt |
| 15:20.54 | ribnitz | I am looking for an easy to configure (with web-interface, possibly firewall, depolyable on debian) |
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| 15:21.21 | kspath | !sicco |
| 15:21.21 | dpkg | Please ask sicco questions, questions that are Specific, Informative, Concise, Complete, and On-topic. Ask me about <research> and <cooperation in asking for help>. |
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| 15:22.07 | loumz | yohu123: when you mounted your windows partitions in coLinux was it through the "cofs" filesystem-type? |
| 15:22.18 | petemc | ribnitz: webmin has a iptables module i believe |
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| 15:22.38 | ribnitz | petemc:the idea would be to not use webmin, if possible. |
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| 15:22.53 | MDC | kspath; the packages are coming (eth0) in and being decrypted (can be seen in tcpdump) but is not going out on any interface at all, should be eth1 |
| 15:22.57 | snickel1650 | I'm trying to install j2eesdk, and I get this error: "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Any help? |
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| 15:23.03 | petemc | ribnitz: how is it any worse than any other web interface thingie? |
| 15:23.03 | ribnitz | petemc: I would have gone for shorewall, but that doesn't really have a web module. |
| 15:23.04 | yohu123 | yup, i use cofs_device, because it works very well with windows drives |
| 15:23.24 | ribnitz | petemc: its more uintegrated, less transparent. |
| 15:23.34 | petemc | if you say so |
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| 15:24.11 | loumz | yohu123: if so, you must give the ipod's linux partition a drive letter in windows |
| 15:24.25 | loumz | yohu123: so you can mount it using cofs in coLinux |
| 15:24.34 | MDC | kspath; using isakmpd btw. Routing on if it isn't something special with ipsec routing? |
| 15:25.25 | Rockj | does Debian Etch come with any firewall inbuilt? oO like enabled from install? |
| 15:25.39 | petemc | Rockj: no |
| 15:25.45 | john_doe | What module should I load to get information about the battery charge level on a laptop? |
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| 15:27.19 | cluck | hi all |
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| 15:27.40 | chealer9 | john_doe: perhaps battery would help |
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| 15:28.48 | john_doe | chealer9: thanks! |
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| 15:30.10 | yohu123 | loumz: yes |
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| 15:30.41 | yohu123 | i mean, i can mount the windows partition. which appears as J: in windows. but the linux partition doesnt appear at all |
| 15:30.48 | yohu123 | thats the whole point loumz |
| 15:31.06 | jair | valdyn: hello are you back? |
| 15:31.08 | loumz | yohu123: there are installable drivers for ext2 for windows |
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| 15:32.04 | yohu123 | yeah, i tried one of them something like winext2 or like that, but that didnt recognize my ipods ext2 |
| 15:32.15 | yohu123 | since its a usb ext2, these drivers might not recognize them |
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| 15:32.28 | dogayonv | can someone tell me what apt packages I need to install to install Xwin? |
| 15:32.31 | mick_work | hi everyone, I have the harden package, and I wanted to know - does it "play well" with bastille? |
| 15:32.45 | loumz | yohu123: hmm, is your iPod a "removable device"? |
| 15:32.45 | fffffh | How can I disable anti-aliasing of screen fonts <= 14 pixels ? |
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| 15:33.12 | loumz | yohu123: I might be wrong, but last time I checked, windows can only mount the first partition on a "removable device" |
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| 15:34.13 | yohu123 | yup |
| 15:34.15 | stew | dogayonv: x-window-system-core |
| 15:34.21 | yohu123 | its a removable device |
| 15:34.29 | dogayonv | thank you Stew |
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| 15:34.59 | diesel | !dpkg 200 6 key |
| 15:35.06 | diesel | !dpkg 2006 key |
| 15:35.06 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. You can also install the key as follow, explicitly trusting this message with no verification: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 15:35.30 | loumz | yohu123: and it is not the first partition? |
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| 15:35.46 | yohu123 | ok loumz, if you could tell me a good ext2 driver that will recognize a usb ext2 partition like my ipods, without making my windows unstable, i will definitely install it |
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| 15:36.02 | yohu123 | no loumz, its not. because thats the windows partition |
| 15:36.10 | yohu123 | i am sure of that |
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| 15:36.33 | yohu123 | my ipod has 3 partitions, one is windows, one linux and the other is unallocated |
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| 15:36.41 | loumz | yohu123: i'm saying that even if you formatted that second partition as FAT32, windows still won't be able to read it because it is not the first partition on the removable device. |
| 15:36.55 | loumz | yohu123: I tried that on my usb flash disk (windows 2000 here) |
| 15:37.12 | fwest | urg, my sound and my wifi didn't work out the box |
| 15:37.16 | darkness_ | Im trying to change my apache placeholder with a html file. How is this done? |
| 15:37.18 | karim | great I can't build a gpg key, it says enthropy is not enough |
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| 15:38.10 | yohu123 | then how can a tool called ltools recognize it in windows |
| 15:38.11 | yohu123 | ? |
| 15:38.25 | yohu123 | if ltools can recognize it, then windows is somehow recognizing it |
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| 15:38.39 | loumz | yohu123: hmm, good question |
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| 15:40.52 | darkness_ | I imagine that the apache file loaded on my website is index.html.en If so hows best to replace is with another file called index.html? |
| 15:41.31 | yohu123 | ltools shows 2 frames. one contains the windows drives including the windows partition of the ipod as J: and the other frame shows the ext2 partition mounted as /dev/sda3 |
| 15:42.11 | yohu123 | thats the same way it shows up in slax. i normally use slax to access that partition. that is restart the system using the slax linux live cd |
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| 15:43.09 | loumz | yohu123: try formatting the unallocated partition using FAT and see if windows can detect it? |
| 15:43.23 | yohu123 | but it really sucks to go through all that just to do a chmod on a file in that partition |
| 15:43.38 | loumz | yohu123: if it can't then ltools is probably directly accessing the hardware? |
| 15:43.47 | yohu123 | that shows up as unallocated but its actually disk mode of the ipod and i cant mess around with those partitions |
| 15:44.33 | yohu123 | so how do i make colinux also directly access the hardware? |
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| 15:45.53 | loumz | yohu123: I don't know, probably you can ask on the coLinux irc channel: #colinux at irc.oftc.net |
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| 15:46.08 | yohu123 | i already have :( |
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| 15:48.08 | yohu123 | but anywayz, thanx for trying loumz |
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| 15:48.26 | loumz | yohu123: you're welcome |
| 15:48.31 | whiskywhisky | hello guys, me again... I just upgrade my kernel (debain sarge to debian etch) to 2.6 for sata drive to work, however I can't boot, grub don't let me choose anything rather than hda even mapping it, when it boots I get the message: Waiting for root filesystem (or similar) and that's all... any ideas or suggestions? (I'm kind of new to sata technology) |
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| 15:50.46 | goki- | What's the best way to get a recent kernel version on stable? Can I build a package for the newest kernel version? |
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| 15:51.17 | stew | goki-: /msg dpkg backports ; http://backports.org/instructions.html |
| 15:51.33 | goki- | thanks |
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| 15:52.32 | dogayonv | how do I get my mouse to work in bash? |
| 15:52.33 | whiskywhisky | not sure if my problem is grub or something else... |
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| 15:53.04 | stew | !backports.org =~ s#the instructions#http://backports.org/instructions.html# |
| 15:53.04 | dpkg | OK, stew |
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| 15:53.33 | Aconitic | hey , what is xfce4 called in apt? |
| 15:53.35 | stew | !backports.org is also ask me about <backports> |
| 15:53.36 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 15:53.42 | stew | Aconitic: xfce4 |
| 15:53.52 | stew | dogayonv: what do you mean exactly? in which terminal? |
| 15:53.52 | Aconitic | apt-get install x-window-system-core xfce4 |
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| 15:53.53 | Aconitic | ? |
| 15:53.56 | Aconitic | will that work |
| 15:53.58 | Aconitic | from a new install |
| 15:54.07 | stew | !info xfce4 stable |
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| 15:54.12 | dpkg | xfce4: (Installs XFce4 core and scripts to set it up), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.0.5-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 17 kB |
| 15:54.16 | darkness_ | Not enough arguments for index at (eval 1) line 1, near "index." |
| 15:54.16 | darkness_ | Bareword "html" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. |
| 15:54.17 | darkness_ | Bareword "en" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. |
| 15:54.20 | goki- | stew, is it not recommended to build a newer kernel version? I had a feeling there was a nice neat way to do it? |
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| 15:54.26 | darkness_ | Any reasons i can't rename this file? |
| 15:54.35 | bomin | anyone here tried using sync4j to access/sync a blackberry to linux? |
| 15:54.41 | Youpi | life is unfair |
| 15:54.41 | splattnik | whats the link for all old deb packages? |
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| 15:54.53 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 15:54.53 | dpkg | well, sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 15:55.12 | stew | goki-: unless you have a specific need, the recomended way of upgrading your kenrel is to stick with the debian packages. if you really want to compile your own, /msg dpkg kp |
| 15:55.17 | whiskywhisky | can anyone give me hand? |
| 15:55.31 | stew | Aconitic: so yes, that should work |
| 15:55.35 | Aconitic | and what do i need to do to get x11? |
| 15:55.46 | abrotman | x-window-system-core |
| 15:55.49 | SlayerXP | saws |
| 15:55.49 | HyramGraff | I just got a usb external hard drive and I'm having a hard time finding which device it's on so that I can mount it |
| 15:55.54 | Aconitic | ok thought so |
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| 15:56.04 | dogayonv | can anyone tell me how to get the mouse working in bash? |
| 15:56.10 | stew | darkness_: what exactly are you typing that is getting that error? |
| 15:56.18 | azeem | dogayonv: you mean on the console? |
| 15:56.23 | dogayonv | yes azeem |
| 15:56.27 | whiskywhisky | SlayerXP, :p |
| 15:56.30 | Aconitic | xorgconfig? |
| 15:56.31 | azeem | gpm does that, but I am not sure it is worthwhile these days |
| 15:56.32 | stew | darkness_: if you are just trying to rename a single file, use mv, not rename |
| 15:56.35 | Aconitic | what is x11 setup? |
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| 15:56.41 | Youpi | !tell Aconitic xorg |
| 15:56.44 | Aconitic | ok |
| 15:56.47 | levente_kovacs | dogayonv: what would you like to do? |
| 15:57.00 | stew | Aconitic: apt-get install x-window-system-core; if its already installed, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:57.19 | Aconitic | thanks stew |
| 15:58.45 | goki- | stew, I need the kernel to use new usb video class drivers, but I don't really need any specific settings. I'll try the kernel backport, but there seemed to be some stuff about it not working with udev properly |
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| 15:58.55 | Aconitic | sorry im still kinda new, what modules do i need for xfree86? |
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| 15:59.48 | stew | Aconitic: modules? you mean like kernel modules? |
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| 15:59.55 | Youpi | drivers I suppose |
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| 16:00.59 | Moein | It's for more than one month that I installed Debian Testing, and when I run anjuta, after showing the logo, it will be killed :( and upgrades didn't work since now. what can I do ? |
| 16:01.04 | Aconitic | xfree68 server modules |
| 16:01.19 | Aconitic | glcore bitmap dbe ddc dri |
| 16:01.23 | Aconitic | those |
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| 16:01.35 | azeem | Aconitic: just keep the default for now |
| 16:01.37 | stew | Aconitic: just accept the defaults |
| 16:01.46 | stew | !widhe |
| 16:01.46 | dpkg | When In Doubt, Hit Enter |
| 16:01.47 | Aconitic | alright thanks |
| 16:02.39 | molinux | hh |
| 16:03.19 | Aconitic | and dammit |
| 16:03.23 | Aconitic | got an error |
| 16:03.39 | Aconitic | X10 fatal i0 error 104 connection reset by peer on xserver |
| 16:03.43 | HyramGraff | what device would a usb hard drive be on? |
| 16:03.59 | Aconitic | failed to initialize core devices |
| 16:04.08 | Aconitic | configured mouse: cannot open input device |
| 16:04.15 | Moein | Is there anybody here who has Debian Testing and be able to run Anjuta ??? |
| 16:04.34 | DaBlade | Moein: What's Anjuta? |
| 16:04.43 | Moein | !anjuta |
| 16:04.43 | dpkg | i heard anjuta is a great IDE to GTK+/GNOME for C/C++, similar to KDevelop. It has auto-completion, class/function browser, etc..http://anjuta.sourceforge.net |
| 16:04.55 | DaBlade | Aha. |
| 16:05.01 | DaBlade | I'll try installing it |
| 16:05.18 | Moein | DaBlade, you have testing ? |
| 16:05.21 | DaBlade | Yup |
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| 16:05.35 | Moein | DaBlade, and you use gnome ? or ? |
| 16:05.39 | DaBlade | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.40 | abrotman | Moein: it's broken |
| 16:05.45 | abrotman | Moein: check the BTS |
| 16:05.56 | stew | HyramGraff: /msg dpkg sub-storage |
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| 16:06.27 | DaBlade | The Application "anjuta" has quit unexpectedly. |
| 16:06.27 | DaBlade | You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it. Or you can restart the application right now. |
| 16:06.30 | Aconitic | anyone have an idea whats causing the errors? |
| 16:06.33 | DaBlade | Moein: ^ |
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| 16:07.00 | J_P | hi all |
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| 16:07.45 | Aconitic | #LinPeople |
| 16:07.55 | J_P | What app I use to run one file.swf on debian ? |
| 16:08.00 | Moein | DaBlade, ok, I just want to sure that it's not because of something else in my computer :( Thanks |
| 16:08.17 | segfault- | hello |
| 16:08.19 | Moein | J_P, maybe firefox with Flash Plugin |
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| 16:08.29 | segfault- | i got a problem with php-cli on etch |
| 16:08.34 | segfault- | when running php it say : |
| 16:08.37 | segfault- | serveur:~# php |
| 16:08.38 | segfault- | PHP Warning: mime_magic: type regex BEGIN[[:space:]]*[{] application/x-awk invalid in Unknown on line 0 |
| 16:08.44 | segfault- | o_0 |
| 16:08.49 | segfault- | is there a fix ? |
| 16:08.59 | J_P | Moein: is possible run without browser ? |
| 16:09.38 | Moein | J_P, I think there is a plugin for GStreamer, so maybe you can run it under totem-gstreamer ... |
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| 16:11.04 | Maulkin | segfault-: is this php4 or php5? |
| 16:11.19 | J_P | Moein: thanks |
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| 16:11.24 | Youpi | wait a year, that will be php6 |
| 16:11.46 | HyramGraff | stew: dpkg doesn't seem to know what sub-storage is |
| 16:12.26 | azeem | HyramGraff: usb-storage |
| 16:12.28 | DevilChaos | hi folks im looking for an app that will do mp3 to wav i have a prog called mp3roaster which should work but am having trouble with is there anything else i could use? |
| 16:12.29 | Maulkin | segfault-: Fix is at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361789 |
| 16:13.22 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: use xmms, and configure the diskwrite output plugin. |
| 16:13.24 | insidius | How can i extract? I think that would be it anyway a .bz2 file? Mine is in the format of: example.sql.bz2 |
| 16:13.27 | HyramGraff | azeem: thanks |
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| 16:13.42 | DevilChaos | exellent |
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| 16:13.58 | levente_kovacs | insidius: tar -jxvf |
| 16:14.21 | Maulkin | insidius: gunzip example.sql.bz2 |
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| 16:14.37 | levente_kovacs | insidius: oooh... sorry... bunzip2 file.bz2 |
| 16:14.52 | insidius | bunzip just tells me no such command |
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| 16:15.16 | levente_kovacs | apt-get install bzip2 |
| 16:15.28 | Niklas_E | in dmesg: saa7134[0]: registered device dsp0 but I can't find /dev/dsp0, is there any settings to do to make that device? (useing udev) |
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| 16:16.56 | insidius | It works! Thanks all |
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| 16:17.59 | Aconitic | will apt-get remove x-window-system-core get rud if everything |
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| 16:18.04 | Aconitic | so i can install the newer version? |
| 16:18.32 | insidius | apt-get remove x-window-system-core --purge ? |
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| 16:18.46 | insidius | Or does he not want to purge? |
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| 16:19.03 | Aconitic | uh |
| 16:19.15 | insidius | purge removes conf files as well |
| 16:19.20 | Aconitic | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.28 | Aconitic | thatl work |
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| 16:19.46 | DevilChaos | levente_kovacs: what is the plugin called for xmms please? |
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| 16:20.13 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: it's output plugin... wait... let me see.. |
| 16:20.17 | Aconitic | what is xorg called? |
| 16:20.22 | Aconitic | in apt |
| 16:20.23 | Ronin | Aconitic: xorg |
| 16:20.36 | Aconitic | hmm |
| 16:20.38 | Aconitic | cant find package |
| 16:20.46 | metatag | hello! Can anybody please send me a Debian DVD? I'm unable to download and they won't ship to mauritius.. |
| 16:21.16 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: options->preferences->output plugin |
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| 16:21.21 | insidius | You cant download? |
| 16:21.26 | ootput | thos of you running screen, could you please press C-s? |
| 16:21.45 | metatag | insidius, no.. don't have broadband |
| 16:21.45 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: select disk writer plugin... |
| 16:21.49 | ootput | it's locking my screen session (apparently,) but i can't seem to find that keybind anywhere in the documentation |
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| 16:21.53 | insidius | ahh poor guy |
| 16:22.02 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: and configure.... |
| 16:22.04 | metatag | insidius, yep :( |
| 16:22.08 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: that's it. |
| 16:22.11 | thingfish | metatag: who won't ship to mauritius? |
| 16:22.11 | insidius | Well i would but im from australia lol might take a while to get there |
| 16:22.13 | DevilChaos | exellent |
| 16:22.18 | DevilChaos | thank you |
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| 16:22.35 | valdyn | metatag: im sure there's vendors that will ship to mauritius |
| 16:22.38 | ootput | metatag: how much money are you willing to part with? |
| 16:22.47 | insidius | lol |
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| 16:23.03 | metatag | ootput, i'm ready to pay.. as long as i get a copy of sarge |
| 16:23.18 | ootput | metatag: arrange for a separate courier to deliver it to you |
| 16:23.24 | Ronin | metatag: no lug? high speed cafes? |
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| 16:23.44 | DevilChaos | levente_kovacs: ok so it gives me a path to put in what is this for? |
| 16:24.05 | DevilChaos | disk-writer config path |
| 16:24.05 | Ronin | used to be on dialup myself and i got rh dl'd and installed, took a while mind you :) |
| 16:24.11 | metatag | Ronin, no unfortunatly |
| 16:24.12 | valdyn | metatag: www.linuxiso.co.uk |
| 16:24.24 | metatag | thanks valdyn !!! |
| 16:24.26 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: where you want your files.... |
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| 16:24.48 | DevilChaos | ah ok |
| 16:24.53 | ootput | Ronin: wow, how long ago was this? |
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| 16:24.59 | ootput | and was it for the minimal-set? |
| 16:25.01 | metatag | Ronin, heard its 8 cds |
| 16:25.14 | Ronin | metatag: 13 actually but you dont need them all |
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| 16:25.33 | ootput | metatag: i'm assuming you're after sarge for a production server? |
| 16:25.37 | karim | hi |
| 16:25.39 | Ronin | ootput: many many years ago, first time trying linux as i recall |
| 16:25.48 | metatag | Ronin, well i need them to install a server.. yes ootput |
| 16:25.54 | ootput | metatag: in which case you'd only need a tiny fraction of packages available on 13 cds |
| 16:25.58 | snickel1650 | I just installed Java SDK, how do I specify to eclipse where the path is to Java? |
| 16:26.01 | Ronin | metatag: still wont need all 13 cds |
| 16:26.03 | DevilChaos | levente_kovacs: ok so iv done that now how do i use it please sorry for beimg a pest?! |
| 16:26.04 | karim | is it possible de pass options like -tune=cpu-type to dpkg-buildpackage ? |
| 16:26.13 | karim | how to do such optimisations ? |
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| 16:26.27 | metatag | ootput, Ronin : Any ideas which iso's i need to dload? |
| 16:26.28 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: you configure it, and press play... |
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| 16:26.31 | insidius | *hugs debian: dont ever leave me* |
| 16:26.35 | UkT|Flav | hi |
| 16:26.41 | raden | whats the proper way to chmod a whole directory and everything in it ? |
| 16:26.51 | idoru__ | use -R |
| 16:26.55 | raden | chmod 755 -r whatever dont work |
| 16:26.58 | insidius | chmod user -R /var/u/nameofuser ? |
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| 16:26.59 | ootput | insidius: as long as you're not unfaithful >:) |
| 16:27.06 | UkT|Flav | I have a problem with my debian testing, i can't have 2 networks interface, debian make eth1_temp and i can't do anything |
| 16:27.11 | insidius | oh well yeah plus actual perms |
| 16:27.19 | DevilChaos | levente_kovacs: load the folder then press play ok ill give it a shot |
| 16:27.26 | insidius | My mind has not even strayed from my beautiful |
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| 16:27.31 | penguin_ | THere is this computer that has all its contact information and emails on Microsoft exchange server. How does one wean themselves from the program? |
| 16:27.38 | insidius | Although it almost strayed toward gentoo |
| 16:27.41 | ootput | insidius: harlet? |
| 16:27.46 | insidius | lol |
| 16:28.06 | insidius | Seriously if it was not for debian i might still be using windows and gaming or something |
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| 16:28.11 | insidius | lol ahh those were the days |
| 16:28.28 | ootput | gaming can be destructive |
| 16:28.35 | ootput | very destructive |
| 16:28.44 | insidius | heh least i had more sleep back then :-) |
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| 16:28.52 | ootput | shit, well so can irc, i guess |
| 16:28.53 | ahogan | is there a way to take a screenshot of a gdm login prompt? |
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| 16:29.01 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 16:29.01 | dpkg | hmm... tetrinet is multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 16:29.10 | Plouj | do I need to download only one of the CD images to install debian? Like: debian-31r2-i386-binary-1.iso.torrent > |
| 16:29.14 | DevilChaos | levente_kovacs: genious! :) |
| 16:29.19 | ootput | sid: awesome awesome game |
| 16:29.25 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: :-) |
| 16:29.26 | Ronin | !tell Plouj about d-i |
| 16:29.26 | Maulkin | Plouj: Yup |
| 16:29.27 | ahogan | Plouj: more or less |
| 16:29.36 | ahogan | depends on what you want to install |
| 16:29.39 | Maulkin | Plouj: If you have a network connection that is... |
| 16:29.43 | insidius | If on adsl i reckon just use the netinstall image, i need only minimal packages so thats what i did |
| 16:29.46 | DevilChaos | that was awesome it did it like lightning had hut it |
| 16:29.47 | ootput | metatag: not sure |
| 16:29.48 | Plouj | I have a network connection |
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| 16:29.57 | Maulkin | Plouj: I'd suggest using the netinst images |
| 16:29.59 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: be carefull, not to set the rep button!!!! |
| 16:30.10 | insidius | ^agrees with Maulkin |
| 16:30.12 | UkT|Flav | I have some troobles to setup my interfaces, please someone can help me? thanks |
| 16:30.16 | DevilChaos | oh yeah that would be an oops |
| 16:30.29 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: if you want some noninteractive mpg123 is your friend. |
| 16:30.33 | insidius | Ask your question UkT|Flav |
| 16:30.39 | metatag | am trying to download the first CD, do you think that would be enough for a production server |
| 16:30.41 | Maulkin | ahogan: Take one camera, point it at the screen whilst in gdm... |
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| 16:30.49 | Maulkin | ahogan: Yeah, helpful, I know :)_ |
| 16:31.04 | ootput | UkT|Flav: go ahead and ask |
| 16:31.07 | DevilChaos | ok i looked at the man for that didnt say anything bout converting files though |
| 16:31.19 | metatag | however i have the beta release of sarge handy.. is there any way to upgrade? |
| 16:31.38 | ahogan | Maulkin: are you serious? |
| 16:31.52 | DevilChaos | get rid of sarge etch is da bomb |
| 16:31.54 | Maulkin | metatag: Sure, "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" |
| 16:32.00 | ootput | metatag: sure, but, imo, you'd need to update a majority of those packages anyway |
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| 16:32.08 | angel_ | ver |
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| 16:32.20 | Maulkin | ahogan: Have you tried a nested login? |
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| 16:32.26 | metatag | Maulkin, ootput : thanks mates!! you made my day! :) |
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| 16:32.28 | ootput | metatag: google a bit and crosscheck the contents of either cd |
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| 16:32.39 | metatag | ootput, ok thanks |
| 16:32.53 | Ronin | DevilChaos: sure on a production server? not the best idea |
| 16:33.04 | ahogan | Maulkin: how do I go about that? (New Login from GNOME?) |
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| 16:33.18 | ootput | metatag: you never know, it might be feasible for you to use the beta-release provided the size of updates < Release-cd |
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| 16:33.44 | metatag | ootput, oh i see .. i'll check out |
| 16:34.07 | Ronin | metatag: production server on dialup? really? |
| 16:34.15 | Maulkin | ahogan: Gnome Menu -> System tools -> New Login in a nested window |
| 16:34.20 | ootput | night |
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| 16:34.51 | metatag | Ronin, no its for the implementation of a web server at work.. well i need to test it at home |
| 16:35.04 | Ronin | download at work then? |
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| 16:35.27 | msn | when i run suphp with modsecurity chrooted in apache I get "couldn't create child process error" |
| 16:35.29 | DevilChaos | debian is the best os you just gotta love it ! :) |
| 16:35.45 | metatag | Ronin, actually its for a client.. so it won't be very professional to download the distro at his place |
| 16:35.49 | levente_kovacs | DevilChaos: we all know, but the others... |
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| 16:36.02 | msn | i don't know where it bang my head, suphp websites states it can chroot but what option is not specified |
| 16:36.16 | ahogan | Maulkin: after installing xnest, i issued gdmflexserver --xnest |
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| 16:36.27 | ahogan | worked great, thanks |
| 16:36.57 | UkT|Flav | ootput: sorry for my latency, i installed debian testing with One interface, so after i put a second interface but now. The 1st interface is named eth1_temp, and the new : eth0. and i can't make a gateway. What king of setup i have to do? thanks |
| 16:37.10 | UkT|Flav | kind ;) |
| 16:37.19 | segfault- | Maulkin, thanks i was occupied |
| 16:37.29 | Maulkin | UkT|Flav: Have a look at ifrename to ensure your interfaces stay stable |
| 16:37.40 | Youpi | sorry for latency, I just do something else |
| 16:37.40 | Maulkin | Now, I really, really need to go home |
| 16:37.40 | Youpi | :d |
| 16:37.43 | Maulkin | laters |
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| 16:37.49 | karim | is it possible de pass options like -tune=cpu-type to dpkg-buildpackage ? |
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| 16:38.29 | Sweet_kate | hello everybody |
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| 16:39.05 | UkT|Flav | sorry i don't know what is ifrename. |
| 16:40.05 | stew | !ifrename |
| 16:40.05 | dpkg | rumour has it, ifrename is a utility which sets interface names based on parameters such as MAC address. Very handy if different kernels or kernel modules assign different identifiers to your interfaces, or just to make your firewall rules more readable. http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3586546 |
| 16:40.18 | UkT|Flav | ok it's a package |
| 16:40.42 | UkT|Flav | !ifrename |
| 16:40.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ifrename is a utility which sets interface names based on parameters such as MAC address. Very handy if different kernels or kernel modules assign different identifiers to your interfaces, or just to make your firewall rules more readable. http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3586546 |
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| 16:41.05 | Sweet_kate | if i right-click on desktop it does not appear the menu that once appeared!! hopw can i restore it?? |
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| 16:42.11 | segfault- | hmm |
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| 16:42.27 | levente_kovacs | How can I make load balancing on two ifaces to the same destination? |
| 16:42.29 | segfault- | i tried to resolv a php4 bug on etch following http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=361789 |
| 16:42.41 | segfault- | the problem is that this line is uncommented |
| 16:42.56 | levente_kovacs | e.g. I have two default router... |
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| 16:44.01 | segfault- | the bug is that when you run php4 it display this line : |
| 16:44.02 | segfault- | PHP Warning: mime_magic: type regex BEGIN[[:space:]]*[{] application/x-awk invalid in Unknown on line 0 |
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| 16:44.33 | segfault- | wich is either meaning the regex or the mime is invalid (malformed ?).. |
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| 16:47.10 | UkT|Flav | Please!!! Why debian make my old interface on eth1_temp??? I can't do anything. Why i have to use ifrename? It's not a default package. So i'm sure there exists another way to setup my 2 interfaces correctly. Thanks !!! |
| 16:48.05 | raden | is there a way in console to find out how many MB are in a folder and all its sub foilders ? |
| 16:48.24 | emeteo | raden: du -sh . |
| 16:48.30 | jplibre | Anyone here familiar with the recv_time_zone option in syslog-ng? I am attempting to have syslog-ng log in local time while having the system use GMT, and this seems to be the right variable, but it is undocumented. |
| 16:48.39 | raf256 | raden: in GUI there is a cool program "filelight" try it |
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| 16:49.03 | jplibre | I see it can be a global variable that takes effect for all sources (or probably can be just set for one source definition too) |
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| 16:49.25 | insidius | How do i check a filesize? |
| 16:49.26 | DevilChaos | thanks for the help bbl |
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| 16:50.21 | Phated | insidius: ls -l |
| 16:50.31 | zeroday | hio. |
| 16:50.42 | WhiskyWhisky | guys, does anyone knows if the driver in debian etch, kernel 2.6.15 for wireless network card intel pro 2200 is working?? I can load it, but it doesn't create the ethx and dmesg says: ipw2200: probe of 0000:02:03.0 failed with error -5 ? is there any extra thing that I need to do? beside modprobe ipw2200 ? |
| 16:50.55 | sid | WhiskyWhisky: /join #ipw2200 |
| 16:50.57 | sid | !ipw2200 |
| 16:50.57 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, To install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. You will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) package, and contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200. It is built in to kernels >= 2.6.15 and will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 16:51.03 | sid | WhiskyWhisky: You see the message dpkg wrote you? |
| 16:51.23 | WhiskyWhisky | yup |
| 16:51.46 | raden | emeteo, thank you |
| 16:51.52 | raden | raf256, ill check that out thanks bro |
| 16:52.12 | WhiskyWhisky | sid, problem is that in that channel there are only 1 person >p |
| 16:52.48 | UkT|Flav | i have 2 debians, 2 debian have problems when there is 2 lan cards. why please :s ? |
| 16:53.20 | levente_kovacs | UkT|Flav: what is the problem? |
| 16:53.25 | zeroday | UkT|Flav: how are they have problems? |
| 16:54.29 | WhiskyWhisky | if there a command for apt-get to reconfigure a pachage? |
| 16:54.31 | valdyn | WhiskyWhisky: you already have the driver but you need to download the firmware |
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| 16:54.45 | WhiskyWhisky | valdyn, yes, I'm on it, thanks |
| 16:55.25 | UkT|Flav | i don't know. 1st debian, when i installed my debian testing, i have one cards. It's work (via_rhine) but i'm trying to make a gateway, so i put a second card. eth0 became eth1_temp (ifconfig) : not working ifconfig eth1_temp crash, the new card is name eth0 (8139too) and work correctly. |
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| 16:55.42 | sid | WhiskyWhisky: apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r` linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential bzip2; cd /usr/src; wget http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/ipw2200/ipw2200-1.1.2.tgz; tar zxvf ipw2200-1.1.2.tgz; tar xvjf linux-source*; cd ipw2200-1.1.2; make; make install; |
| 16:55.50 | sid | And you should be done...I think. |
| 16:55.52 | Comrade | hi there |
| 16:56.00 | sid | You need ieee80211 probably too actually |
| 16:56.02 | valdyn | sid: uh he doesnt need all that |
| 16:56.11 | valdyn | sid: it probably wont even work |
| 16:56.26 | sid | valdyn: So fix the command |
| 16:56.47 | valdyn | sid: why? ipw2200 is already in 2.6.15, he doesnt need it a 2nd time |
| 16:56.51 | UkT|Flav | the 2nd debian had 2 cards : via_rhine and MARVELL GBit(skge or sk98lin) and the system was setup with via_rhine card. i remove the via_rhine card to use the gbit card but don't work lspci = ok but ifconfig eth0 nothing modprobe too... |
| 16:56.56 | pyroplasm | WhiskyWhisky: check the ipw2200 website. probably echo 100 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout |
| 16:57.11 | UkT|Flav | levente_kovacs: |
| 16:58.00 | Aconitic | i just installed xserver-xfree86 and xfce4 |
| 16:58.05 | Aconitic | but when i do start x nothing happpens |
| 16:58.09 | Aconitic | startx* |
| 16:58.38 | valdyn | Aconitic: lies, startx does spit out errors when it fails and an error when it doesnt exist |
| 16:58.54 | WhiskyWhisky | how can I know the version of the module ipw2200 ? (kernel 2.6.15) modinfo says 2.6.15? |
| 16:58.58 | idoru__ | i think you are missing some important components, try apt-get install x-window-system |
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| 16:59.09 | valdyn | WhiskyWhisky: iirc its shown when you load it |
| 16:59.23 | segfault- | anyone know about my php4-cli debian package problem ?. |
| 16:59.26 | Aconitic | command not found |
| 16:59.41 | levente_kovacs | Aconitic: so install it! |
| 16:59.42 | idoru__ | Aconitic: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 17:00.27 | zeroday | tasksel would be better. |
| 17:00.36 | valdyn | Aconitic: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 17:00.48 | Aconitic | isnt xserver-xfree86 the same thing |
| 17:00.55 | valdyn | Aconitic: nope |
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| 17:01.14 | UkT|Flav | ffffffffffffff! |
| 17:01.16 | Aconitic | so i have to remove that first? |
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| 17:02.17 | pyroplasm | WhiskyWhisky: another way: strings /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko| grep version |
| 17:02.19 | valdyn | UkT|Flav: modprobe shows nothing? |
| 17:02.35 | valdyn | UkT|Flav: is your card supported by sk98lin? by skge? |
| 17:02.36 | keith80403 | On Debian Sarge, joystick-device-check asks to have joystick device names created - what's a correct standard name? How about /dev/joystick? If so, what's the correct syntax to do so? |
| 17:02.56 | valdyn | UkT|Flav: if it is then loading either module would put information into dmesg |
| 17:03.05 | cshaman | Ahoy. |
| 17:03.56 | valdyn | keith80403: dpkg -l udev | tail -1 |
| 17:04.16 | WhiskyWhisky | how can I put a module for automatic load? |
| 17:04.43 | valdyn | WhiskyWhisky: echo name >> /etc/modules |
| 17:04.50 | keith80403 | valdyn, Thanks, I'll check that out. |
| 17:05.26 | Aconitic | ok |
| 17:05.34 | Aconitic | im getting erros about mym ouse |
| 17:05.41 | WhiskyWhisky | valdyn, but I also have to pass the 100 to the /sys/etc |
| 17:05.45 | Aconitic | configured mouse: cannot open input device |
| 17:05.53 | WhiskyWhisky | valdyn, before loading the module... |
| 17:05.57 | Aconitic | Preinit failed for input devicde configured mouse no core pointer |
| 17:06.03 | snickel1650 | I'm trying to install eclipse and I keep getting errors that say "no java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations ________" can anyone tell me how to set the correct path to JRE? |
| 17:06.03 | valdyn | WhiskyWhisky: you are already sure that you need that? |
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| 17:06.37 | WhiskyWhisky | valdyn, yes... well didn't boot when I tried it without it |
| 17:06.46 | WhiskyWhisky | s/boo/load |
| 17:07.12 | WhiskyWhisky | I'll give it a try, c u guys, thanks for the help |
| 17:07.26 | valdyn | WhiskyWhisky: oh well, i was about to type the command |
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| 17:09.14 | valdyn | snickel1650: you installed a jre already? how? |
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| 17:10.16 | goldfish654__ | hmm, a box that has been working for the last 2 or 3 years is suddenly giving me stuff like this: -bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error |
| 17:10.21 | snickel1650 | yes, I installed Java EE 5 SDK |
| 17:10.30 | valdyn | goldfish654__: harddisk dieing |
| 17:10.39 | goldfish654__ | bugger! |
| 17:10.46 | goldfish654__ | that's a real pain in the ass |
| 17:10.58 | valdyn | goldfish654__: run badblocks on the disk to see |
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| 17:11.21 | valdyn | goldfish654__: unfortunately that will be erratic if anything writes to that disk during the run |
| 17:11.42 | goldfish654__ | well, since i can't really run anything on it at the moment |
| 17:11.53 | goldfish654__ | i'm going to have to boot it up with knoppix.... |
| 17:11.57 | goldfish654__ | i can't even run reboot |
| 17:12.00 | valdyn | snickel1650: HOW? |
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| 17:12.29 | UkT|Flav | i'm becoming crasy lol |
| 17:12.38 | snickel1650 | i extracted a bin file and then it ran a graphical interface |
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| 17:12.40 | d0uglas | i uninstalled apache2 but lighttpd cannot bind to port 80 because it is already in use. No apache processes seem to be running and I rebooted. How can I fix this? Thanks |
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| 17:13.05 | valdyn | snickel1650: ok, i cant help you with that install, you should use 'java-package' on debian though |
| 17:13.08 | valdyn | !java-package |
| 17:13.09 | dpkg | somebody said java-package was a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 17:13.42 | snickel1650 | do I need to uninstall JDK? |
| 17:13.51 | snickel1650 | er, the package that I installed |
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| 17:14.10 | valdyn | snickel1650: you dont have to, but it will be unused cruft once you installed java the debian way |
| 17:14.47 | d0uglas | anybody know why port 80 would be open after I uninstalled apache? |
| 17:14.55 | valdyn | d0uglas: netstat -plunt |
| 17:15.04 | valdyn | d0uglas: to see what is using port 80 |
| 17:15.34 | d0uglas | thanks it worked |
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| 17:16.29 | jesperj | When I run xrandr -q I only get one mode listed. I thought I would be able to change res with xrandr, but that will be hard when I only got one mode there :) |
| 17:17.31 | valdyn | jesperj: either your display really only supports one mode or you specified to small values when configuring X |
| 17:17.35 | valdyn | !drxx jesperj |
| 17:17.35 | dpkg | jesperj: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 17:17.52 | snickel1650 | valdyn: for some reason when I type apt-get install java-package, it says it can't find the package |
| 17:18.05 | valdyn | snickel1650: its in contrib |
| 17:18.08 | valdyn | !contrib |
| 17:18.08 | dpkg | i guess contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free software To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need 'non-free contrib' on the end. |
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| 17:19.02 | azeem | snickel1650: Sun Java is in non-free |
| 17:19.16 | streuner | dpkg, status |
| 17:19.16 | dpkg | Since Wed May 24 00:43:33 2006, there have been 36 modifications, 647 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 187 commands. I have been awake for 1d 16h 35m 43s this session, and currently reference 36342 factoids. I'm using about 14400 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 266.78/13.62 child 0/0.02 |
| 17:19.16 | valdyn | not in sarge |
| 17:19.17 | jesperj | valdyn, it is a LCD display that has the real resoultion of 1280x1024, but I think I should be able to force it to 1024x768 anyway? My X modes are set for the current depth like: Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" |
| 17:19.23 | azeem | ah |
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| 17:19.49 | valdyn | jesperj: hmm, your driver using edid values could be doing this to you |
| 17:19.59 | jesperj | nvidia |
| 17:20.06 | xored | are there any mysql5 tuning tutrials / howtos under debian sarge for webhosting ? |
| 17:20.15 | valdyn | jesperj: which version? |
| 17:20.19 | jesperj | moment |
| 17:20.35 | chealer9 | xored: unlikely |
| 17:21.20 | valdyn | jesperj: i had to put Option "UseEDID" "false" into the Device section for my nvidia card since the driver release prior to the latest |
| 17:21.35 | jesperj | valdyn, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7167 |
| 17:21.47 | valdyn | jesperj: hmm, that one is older |
| 17:21.59 | valdyn | jesperj: and also Option "ModeValidation" "NoVesaModes" |
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| 17:23.00 | mossimo0 | I've had configured my X well, but i reboot my machine and now it says me this error: "Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf" x86OpenSerial: cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device, preinit failed for"configured mouse" |
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| 17:23.07 | valdyn | mossimo0: modprobe mousedev |
| 17:23.28 | jesperj | valdyn, those later also under Device section for nvidia card I guess :) |
| 17:23.34 | jesperj | I can try both |
| 17:23.38 | valdyn | jesperj: yea |
| 17:23.54 | jesperj | thank you very much |
| 17:23.54 | mossimo0 | valdyn: ok but how do i do so it get loaded when i boot up? |
| 17:24.01 | jesperj | i will soon report back |
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| 17:24.07 | some_dude | hey |
| 17:24.08 | valdyn | mossimo0: does that fix your issue? |
| 17:24.14 | some_dude | where's cups ? |
| 17:24.14 | mossimo0 | valdyn: yes |
| 17:24.21 | valdyn | mossimo0: echo mousedev >> /etc/modules |
| 17:24.35 | valdyn | !seen cups |
| 17:24.36 | dpkg | valdyn: i haven't seen 'cups' |
| 17:24.46 | some_dude | apt-get install cups is telling me there is no cups package, there is one, but it's old |
| 17:25.02 | valdyn | !tell some_dude -about search |
| 17:25.14 | valdyn | !setup cups |
| 17:25.26 | valdyn | !cups setup |
| 17:25.26 | dpkg | [cups setup] Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy!, or or you can try printconf |
| 17:26.00 | jair | hey valdyn I was asking you (sorry for being so annoying) about the memory error, it is because it reach the limit of the physical memory or the whole memory limit swap and physical? |
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| 17:26.36 | valdyn | jair: both, oracle doesnt know the difference |
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| 17:27.02 | valdyn | jair: applications do not know if their memory is physical or swap |
| 17:27.05 | blondie | if I don't care about 3D stuff, will a Radeon 9800 work ok with etch? |
| 17:27.11 | valdyn | blondie: sure |
| 17:27.38 | blondie | hmm |
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| 17:28.23 | some_dude | I'm trying to use cups to share my windows printer over the internet |
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| 17:29.08 | some_dude | I installed samba, and now cups, is there anything else i should grab to make this easier on me ? |
| 17:29.09 | blondie | actually I'm dumb -- I have Radeon in my laptop and that's just fine |
| 17:29.26 | mick_work | why does aide have a dependency on exim4? |
| 17:29.32 | some_dude | does the cups server have a web interface ? |
| 17:29.40 | mick_work | some_dude: yes |
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| 17:29.53 | mick_work | localhost:cups_ip |
| 17:29.57 | cshaman | hello |
| 17:30.00 | valdyn | mick_work: it doesnt? |
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| 17:30.16 | jair | valdyn: wow and we have like 8GB of physical memory :( |
| 17:30.21 | mick_work | valdyn: what doesn't? |
| 17:30.36 | cluck | bye |
| 17:30.54 | valdyn | jair: aide does not depend on exim4, as 'apt-cache show aide' would tell you |
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| 17:31.13 | jesperj | valdyn, Nope. I quit X, logged in as root on another tty, killed kdm and Xorg, restarted them, logged back in and ran "xrandr -q". still only one mode |
| 17:31.24 | jesperj | (after editing XF86Config-4 that is |
| 17:31.28 | jesperj | ) |
| 17:31.33 | cshaman | What is a good piece of music notation notation software, other than lilypond and rosegarden? I've tried Rosegarden but sadly I do not have MIDI support so I cannot use the Notation editor. Lilypond is too annoying to use, as well. |
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| 17:31.50 | jesperj | cshaman, ardour and muse I have heard |
| 17:31.56 | valdyn | jesperj: look at the logfile to see which modes are unusuable and why |
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| 17:32.27 | valdyn | cshaman: noteedit ? |
| 17:32.29 | jesperj | cshaman, check out agnula also, the music distribution buildt on debian |
| 17:32.59 | yggdrasil | hello can somone help me out , i ve tried to man page it .. i used to do an ssh -keepalive 60 so my ssh session wouldnt time out but i cant fitgure out htexeact command now.. thanks |
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| 17:34.18 | valdyn | yggdrasil: man ssh, /keepalive |
| 17:34.25 | yggdrasil | hmmm |
| 17:34.33 | yggdrasil | its either off or on. and it just time out on me |
| 17:34.46 | yggdrasil | i thought i could tell it like 60 seconds |
| 17:35.35 | yggdrasil | it apparently wants a yes or no |
| 17:36.27 | jesperj | valdyn, I was checking out XF86Config-4, but I should have been checkign Xorg.conf ;) |
| 17:36.32 | jesperj | old habits die hard |
| 17:36.40 | valdyn | jesperj: ops |
| 17:37.06 | jesperj | valdyn, I had forgot I set up metamodes for using my TV as second monitor |
| 17:37.24 | jesperj | valdyn I guess metamodes has something to do with it. Will try without that and see what happens |
| 17:37.25 | meriad | whats that big silver block that goes over your cpu called? |
| 17:37.32 | meriad | it comes in this plastic case next to my CPU |
| 17:37.33 | meriad | with a fa |
| 17:37.33 | meriad | fan |
| 17:37.42 | meriad | and a silverish metallic thing thats big.. |
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| 17:37.44 | valdyn | meriad: heatsink |
| 17:37.49 | meriad | oh really? |
| 17:37.54 | meriad | valdyn- those things worth anything? |
| 17:38.10 | valdyn | meriad: not much |
| 17:38.18 | jesperj | meriad, they are too you since without it your cpu is fried :) |
| 17:38.37 | meriad | no i know that :) |
| 17:38.38 | meriad | hehe |
| 17:38.41 | meriad | i just got a few spare |
| 17:38.50 | valdyn | meriad: 15+ Euro if you buy one ( including the fan ). |
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| 17:39.14 | jesperj | "hmm I'm broke I think I'll pawnshop my CPU heatsink, it doesn't have any real use anyway. It just sits there" :) |
| 17:39.17 | valdyn | meriad: but if you just have the standard ones, i doubt anyone would pay for that, they're usually the most crappy choice |
| 17:39.32 | valdyn | meriad: and those things dont break, and are included with each cpu |
| 17:40.21 | jesperj | I saw this project somewhere when they dropped the components of a PC inside an aquarium filled with cooking oil for cooling |
| 17:40.24 | jesperj | it lived and worked great |
| 17:40.26 | Wonko | I'm using Debian and I need to do some screendumps. How should I do? |
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| 17:40.35 | pipeline | Wonko: use xwd |
| 17:40.37 | shogunx | mineral oil works better. |
| 17:40.45 | jesperj | shogunx, done it? |
| 17:40.49 | valdyn | !screenshot |
| 17:40.49 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 17:40.50 | shogunx | seen it done. |
| 17:40.58 | shogunx | live and in person. |
| 17:41.02 | jesperj | cool |
| 17:41.36 | shogunx | cooking oil degrades easily... kills your uptime when you have to change it out. |
| 17:41.50 | d0uglas | which one of these small non-apache servers support php? Can't get cherokee or thttpd working.. |
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| 17:42.15 | pipeline | d0uglas: "small" non-apache servers have to use CGI. You probably don't have the PHP CGI package installed. |
| 17:42.33 | d0uglas | oh |
| 17:42.53 | jesperj | interesting sidenote: After I did apt-upgrade this morning, doom3 alsa sound stopped working that previously worked fine when set up like this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Doom3_With_ALSA |
| 17:42.54 | d0uglas | so php5-cgi would do the trick? |
| 17:43.02 | Wonko | How could I find out the id of a window or screen? |
| 17:43.15 | jesperj | if I go back to original doom3 alsa setup i get the crappy doom3 alsa sound |
| 17:43.17 | stew | jesperj: make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded |
| 17:43.24 | jesperj | but with oss it works fine |
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| 17:43.46 | Le_Vert | hi people |
| 17:43.54 | Le_Vert | I have a small issue with my cd burner |
| 17:43.58 | Le_Vert | could you help me ? |
| 17:43.59 | jesperj | stew, I don't know what was up, I just noted it stopped working. Then changed to oss and it worked |
| 17:44.00 | Le_Vert | Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? |
| 17:44.09 | Le_Vert | but cdrecord seems to be suid |
| 17:44.21 | Le_Vert | -rwsr-sr-x 1 root cdrom 133 2006-01-07 19:43 /usr/bin/cdrecord |
| 17:44.31 | Le_Vert | and my user is in the cdrom group |
| 17:44.31 | Vasistha | Wonko: xwininfo |
| 17:44.34 | Le_Vert | any idea ? |
| 17:44.34 | stew | jesperj: i'm guessing you didn'thave snd-pcm-oss loaded |
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| 17:45.16 | Vasistha | levente_kovacs: as root, chmod g+w /usr/bin/cdrecord |
| 17:45.34 | valdyn | Vasistha: WHAT? |
| 17:45.35 | Vasistha | oops, Le_Vert that was for you. n/m levente_kovacs |
| 17:45.49 | jesperj | stew, if so that changed after the apt-upgrade |
| 17:45.51 | Vasistha | valdyn: is that bad advice? Le_Vert listen to valdyn |
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| 17:45.55 | valdyn | Le_Vert: cdrecord should be -rwsr-xr-- |
| 17:46.22 | Le_Vert | no exec ?? |
| 17:46.23 | valdyn | Vasistha: that would make that binary writable be all users who should just be allowed to write cdroms |
| 17:46.27 | Vasistha | valdyn: oops, I was thinking about it as a device! |
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| 17:46.57 | Le_Vert | could you ls -l your cdrecord :p |
| 17:47.11 | Vasistha | Le_Vert: the third r-x that you have right now allows people who are NOT a member of the cdrom group to run it |
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| 17:47.24 | Le_Vert | yes Vasistha |
| 17:47.28 | Le_Vert | but nobody can burn btw |
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| 17:47.32 | Le_Vert | except root |
| 17:47.33 | Le_Vert | :D |
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| 17:47.39 | valdyn | Le_Vert: -rwsr-xr-- |
| 17:47.44 | Le_Vert | tahnks |
| 17:47.47 | valdyn | Le_Vert: your 2nd s shouldnt be there |
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| 17:48.34 | dave007 | Hi, what is the name of the package that contains the make command? |
| 17:48.55 | valdyn | dave007: guess |
| 17:49.00 | wah | i vaguely remember a command with which i can send a user who is logged in a message on the console. can anyone please give me a hint how this command is called? thanks |
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| 17:49.19 | dave007 | valdyn lol, that was stupid |
| 17:49.40 | kevin | If I have a DNS Server setup publicly what exactly allows it to propagate outward.... ? |
| 17:49.46 | stew | dave007: likely you want to install build-essential which will include make |
| 17:49.59 | valdyn | kevin: nothing |
| 17:50.10 | dave007 | stew yeah, that was the name I was looking for, thanks |
| 17:50.33 | valdyn | kevin: or maybe i misunderstood, do you mean 'what makes my dns server be authorative for a domain' ? |
| 17:50.38 | Le_Vert | -rwxr-xr-- < how do I get suid ? |
| 17:50.40 | Le_Vert | chmod +s ? |
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| 17:52.13 | valdyn | Le_Vert: u+s anyway, dont know what +s would do |
| 17:52.13 | jakab922 | hello |
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| 17:52.17 | kevin | Valdyn: Hrmm Possibly, I am a little bit confused as to how when I setup a domain say through netsol and then have it point to my web server and then lets say I want to setup a CNAME, how exactly does the rest of the world know I have set that up? |
| 17:52.29 | Le_Vert | thanks |
| 17:52.58 | kevin | If I wanted to control everything through MY DNS server and not through netsol |
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| 17:53.21 | valdyn | kevin: then netsol needs to declare your server responsible for your domain |
| 17:53.59 | kevin | Hrmm, that makes sense... So once I do that any DNS requests would then be forwarded to my DNS server? |
| 17:54.20 | blondie | what's the program on etch to detect your video card etc? |
| 17:54.28 | blondie | for setting up xorg |
| 17:54.32 | valdyn | kevin: and if its not a subdomain then the tld servers need to point to you instead of pointing to netsol |
| 17:54.32 | bjohnson_ | trying to set up a new machine using debootstrap according to http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en#id2534066 and got to the /usr/sbin/base-config new which terminates without doing anything. Sounds like it should setup users which I cn do manually but I need an eample apt config since this didn't make one |
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| 17:54.42 | messia | halo' |
| 17:54.55 | messia | anyone can help me about VPS ? |
| 17:55.01 | vin` | blondie: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 17:55.39 | Ronin | messia: helps if you explain the problem |
| 17:55.56 | bjohnson_ | could someone provide me with apt config files? |
| 17:55.58 | kevin | valdyn: Correct, but how do I go about getting the tld servers to actually point to me... |
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| 17:56.06 | valdyn | kevin: ask your registrar |
| 17:56.14 | messia | Ronin, I have create a vserver |
| 17:56.18 | valdyn | kevin: if you got that domain name from netsol, ask them |
| 17:56.21 | Ronin | bjohnson: apt config viles? |
| 17:56.28 | Ronin | bjohnson: as in apt-setup perhaps |
| 17:56.31 | messia | but when I can start it I receved this error: http://pastebin.com/737549 |
| 17:56.43 | blondie | vin`: thanks |
| 17:56.43 | bjohnson | Ronin: I don't know. what is apt-setup? |
| 17:56.47 | wah | i got it: i meant "write"... thanks |
| 17:57.02 | bjohnson | Ronin: I'm a fedora guy trying to setup a debian laptop |
| 17:57.09 | valdyn | kevin: there's nothing you can do yourself to make yourself authority over any domain, naturally |
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| 17:58.23 | valdyn | !dns |
| 17:58.32 | hynek | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.01 | Ronin | bjohnson: are you asking about setting up sources for apt to install software from |
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| 17:59.26 | messia | Ronin, you can read my error? |
| 17:59.46 | marco13185 | anyone know of a good web IDE? |
| 17:59.55 | marco13185 | that's not nvu? |
| 18:00.04 | messia | quanta? |
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| 18:00.16 | messia | mozilla-composetor ? |
| 18:00.22 | messia | composer |
| 18:01.20 | tuv | where can i find a comparison between nfs-user-server and unfs? which is better? |
| 18:02.21 | bjohnson | Ronin: that command did it .. thnx |
| 18:02.27 | Ronin | np |
| 18:03.57 | dinamizador | ola |
| 18:05.59 | sid | valdyn: I made a madwifi factoid...And I tested it out on sarge/etch/sid and it works on all. |
| 18:06.02 | sid | !madwifi.one.liner |
| 18:06.03 | dpkg | methinks madwifi.one.liner is run # apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r|sed 's/(.\{6\}\).*/\1/'` linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential bzip2 subversion; cd /usr/src; svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/trunk madwifi-ng ; tar xvjf linux-source-*; cd madwifi-ng; touch noask; make; make install; modprobe ath_pci; echo "ath_pci" >> /etc/modules; dhclient ath0; |
| 18:06.18 | sid | valdyn: good? |
| 18:06.24 | valdyn | sid: no idea |
| 18:07.05 | teledyn | marco13185: vi? |
| 18:07.11 | valdyn | sid: why does it not use the madwifi-source from debian? |
| 18:07.16 | messia | another who can help me with VPS? |
| 18:07.26 | sid | valdyn: Because madwifi is under heavy development and it changes a lot. |
| 18:07.32 | valdyn | sid: i see |
| 18:07.32 | sid | The one in debian is old and stale |
| 18:07.53 | tuv | madwifi-source works just fine with module-assistant |
| 18:08.00 | sid | tuv: This is true. |
| 18:08.03 | valdyn | sid: hmm, sarge has no linux-source |
| 18:08.31 | sid | tuv: It's recommended on the madwifi.org site to use svn...and they even mention debian having a very old version and good changes are in the trunk |
| 18:08.37 | sid | valdyn: dammit |
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| 18:08.45 | sid | freakenen kernel-source |
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| 18:08.46 | sid | lol |
| 18:08.57 | sid | Now I can't use one line anymore I have to make a script |
| 18:09.04 | valdyn | sid: just add that it needs etch / sid |
| 18:09.06 | wdp | someone an idea when there will be a security update for postgresql in sarge? |
| 18:09.14 | tuv | sid, it worked with WPA2-CCMP here.. so what could it be missing |
| 18:09.28 | redloff_ | hi |
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| 18:09.43 | redloff_ | why does firefox show 4 different printers/pseudoprinters |
| 18:09.49 | sid | tuv: I don't know... /join #madwifi and ask them...or check all the svn commits and see what is new. |
| 18:09.55 | valdyn | redloff_: because they exist? |
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| 18:09.58 | redloff_ | despite I have only one defined in cups? |
| 18:10.00 | teledyn | i always had problems with madwifi_ng. the older madwifi works great though |
| 18:10.02 | redloff_ | ;] |
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| 18:10.13 | redloff_ | valdyn, nice reaction time :> |
| 18:10.13 | valdyn | redloff_: xpring is there too |
| 18:10.17 | valdyn | redloff_: xprint is there too |
| 18:10.21 | tuv | guys.. which should i use: unfs or nfs-user-server? |
| 18:10.27 | valdyn | redloff_: you dont set that up, you just installed it |
| 18:10.37 | redloff_ | valdyn, can cups work without xprint? |
| 18:11.00 | redloff_ | valdyn, what do I need xprint for, can I remove it so only one printer is in ff? |
| 18:11.02 | valdyn | redloff_: the xpring stuff was added because firefox itself doesnt print some unicode characters properly |
| 18:11.10 | redloff_ | oh |
| 18:11.24 | wdp | hm |
| 18:11.27 | valdyn | redloff_: maybe that's just cyrillic or chinese, i dont know |
| 18:11.37 | redloff_ | valdyn, but it's annoying to switch the printer every time I want to print sth |
| 18:11.41 | snickel1650 | is there anyway I can get eclipse through apt-get? I'm running stable |
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| 18:12.42 | wdp | nobody an idea? |
| 18:12.47 | abrotman | snickel1650: check apt-get.org .. but i don't think so .. besides .. once you install java .. you can just run it from $HOME |
| 18:12.54 | abrotman | snickel1650: or maybe backports.org |
| 18:13.01 | meriad | in VI hwo do I convert all characters to lower case? |
| 18:13.14 | meriad | oh wait |
| 18:13.14 | meriad | nevermind |
| 18:13.22 | abrotman | s/[A-Z]/[a-z]/g ? |
| 18:13.50 | some_dude | wtf vim needs 15mgs ? |
| 18:13.55 | some_dude | what's another editor / |
| 18:14.01 | kspath | some_dude: nvi ? |
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| 18:14.05 | kspath | some_dude: cat? |
| 18:14.12 | kspath | some_dude: sed? |
| 18:14.14 | Argentine | hi evereyone |
| 18:14.16 | some_dude | cat does not work |
| 18:14.17 | valdyn | some_dude: vim has extremely many features and macros |
| 18:14.30 | meriad | abrotman- :) i know i remembere |
| 18:14.52 | valdyn | some_dude: nvi is small i guess |
| 18:14.58 | kspath | some_dude: plain vim uses MUCH less than 15Meg |
| 18:15.10 | some_dude | the dependents and all |
| 18:15.15 | some_dude | but nvi is on the system |
| 18:15.24 | meriad | domain names are case insensitive anyways |
| 18:15.28 | meriad | soit doesnt matter if they are large |
| 18:15.32 | kspath | some_dude: when you use certain features to vim it needs additional resources to support those additional features. |
| 18:16.12 | wdp | hello, anybody an idea when there will be a security patch for postgresql? |
| 18:16.16 | Argentine | I've got a noob problem... |
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| 18:16.54 | SlayerXP | Argentine: also you don't know how to spell "newbie" |
| 18:16.58 | kspath | wdp: sometime between now and never? |
| 18:17.33 | abrotman | meriad: did you kick the PHP dev in the head yet? |
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| 18:17.35 | wdp | kspath, any idea how i can see with which configure options postgresql was compiled? |
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| 18:17.46 | abrotman | wdp: grab the source package. . look in the rules file |
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| 18:17.55 | wdp | where's it? |
| 18:18.06 | meriad | abrotman- yes |
| 18:18.09 | meriad | abrotman- i bitched and bitched |
| 18:18.15 | valdyn | wdp: apt-get source <packagename> and look |
| 18:18.16 | abrotman | meriad: was it his fault or the package ? |
| 18:18.23 | wdp | ty |
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| 18:19.16 | meriad | obviously itw as his fault |
| 18:19.20 | meriad | i knew enuf php to say that |
| 18:19.20 | meriad | hehe |
| 18:19.33 | abrotman | but not enough to spell "enough" correctly? |
| 18:19.46 | blondie | hahahahahahaha |
| 18:19.57 | blondie | hi monsieur abrotman |
| 18:20.02 | nadim | Hi - I have testing installed on one of my machines yet I seem to have some strange owner.group setting on some important files - such as /usr/bin/faillog has uucp.14960 instead of root.root and I can't seem to change it - there are others in that dir that have strange settings. Is this a known issue ? |
| 18:20.04 | meriad | my poor spelling is a result of years of horrid eye abuse as a result of staring at the screen for countless hours |
| 18:20.06 | meriad | days upon end |
| 18:20.12 | abrotman | hey blondie .. that RDP thing is still not working .. but oh well |
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| 18:21.16 | nadim | for instance, /usr/bin/diskd has owner.group set to '452984832.917504' - have NO idea why... |
| 18:21.21 | abrotman | blondie: but at least i got an error out of the host machine |
| 18:21.22 | blondie | o.O |
| 18:21.24 | blondie | O.o |
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| 18:21.42 | abrotman | blondie: if you keep doing that .. you'll go cross-eyed |
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| 18:21.48 | blondie | :D |
| 18:21.51 | nadim | I can't seem to chown those files either... |
| 18:21.55 | snickel1650 | I had problems installing the java package for debian, but I downloaded the Java SDK 5 platform from Sun and I'm pretty sure I've successfully installed it. My only problem is that eclipse keeps looking for a java environment in its own folder, instead of the correct place. How do I correct the path to which Eclipse looks for Java? |
| 18:21.57 | kspath | Hello, mysewer blondie |
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| 18:22.25 | blondie | kspath: I don't smell that bad :( |
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| 18:22.42 | abrotman | snickel1650: that's why you should use java-package |
| 18:22.44 | kspath | blondie: Not all sewers smell that bad either. |
| 18:22.58 | blondie | luckily I've never been in one to see |
| 18:23.01 | blondie | or rather, to smell |
| 18:23.06 | blondie | erm |
| 18:23.10 | blondie | or did you want a slap? :( |
| 18:23.45 | blondie | yay firefox breakage |
| 18:23.46 | nadim | As root when I try to chown the faillog file I get - 'chown: changing ownership of `faillog': Operation not permitted' |
| 18:24.04 | nadim | any thoughts/ideas ? |
| 18:24.32 | bjohnson | I guess I need alittle more help setting up the bootloader than what is here http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en#id2534675 |
| 18:25.49 | blondie | ARGH I HATE APT |
| 18:26.02 | abrotman | blondie: you could be using gentoo ... |
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| 18:26.22 | blondie | abrotman: hmm but my boyfriend is a gentoo dev so he could rescue me x.x |
| 18:26.24 | levente_kovacs | blondie: I guess you have not used rpm..... |
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| 18:26.30 | kspath | !metoosmite abrotman |
| 18:26.30 | Coutal | has anyone else encountered apt segfaulting? |
| 18:26.34 | abrotman | blondie: get a new boyfriend |
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| 18:26.39 | sid | Coutal: no |
| 18:26.40 | blondie | no! ;'( |
| 18:26.41 | mfdq | hi... somebody can help me? |
| 18:26.42 | levente_kovacs | blondie: ...and the "rpm dependency hell" |
| 18:26.42 | sid | Coutal: never |
| 18:26.52 | abrotman | Coutal: be less vague |
| 18:26.52 | sid | !tell mfdq about anyone |
| 18:26.59 | blondie | levente_kovacs: I'm having a dpkg dependency hell |
| 18:27.01 | Ronin | mfdq: not unless you tell us the problem |
| 18:27.02 | sid | mfdq: I doubt anyone can help you if you don't ask a question. |
| 18:27.05 | blondie | abrotman: are you asking me out? |
| 18:27.05 | sid | !tell mfdq about ask |
| 18:27.18 | Coutal | abrotman: it's apt being vague :) i even strace'd it. it just segfaults after apt-get update when trying to read the packages |
| 18:27.22 | levente_kovacs | blondie: there's no such thing... |
| 18:27.24 | mfdq | i want to know if the ati theater 550 pro have support under gnu/linux and what its the module for use that tv-tuner |
| 18:27.34 | Coutal | i erased all the files in /var/apt/lists and started over. same result. |
| 18:27.35 | levente_kovacs | blondie: what's the prob? |
| 18:27.40 | kspath | Coutal: sarge? etch? sid? ? |
| 18:27.49 | Coutal | unstable |
| 18:27.56 | Coutal | (is it still called sid?) |
| 18:27.58 | snickel1650 | abrotman: I'm having trouble editing the sources.list file for etc/apt.. I just add the words "contrib non-free" at the end of the url right? |
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| 18:28.11 | pzn | Hi! Anyone here uses "screen" program? how do I go out from "screen" without logoff, and how do I come back again to the screen? thanks! |
| 18:28.18 | kspath | Coutal: first time? repeatable? ever happened before? before to after an upgrade or a dist-upgrade? |
| 18:28.19 | sid | Coutal: yes it will _always_ be called sid. And it will never be released. |
| 18:28.22 | blondie | levente_kovacs: oh yes there is |
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| 18:28.29 | sid | pzn: /join #screen |
| 18:28.31 | blondie | but it's ok now |
| 18:28.35 | abrotman | snickel1650: sure |
| 18:28.52 | abrotman | blondie: didn't we decide you're a guy? |
| 18:28.55 | karim | when you build a package, and that this package needs a particular headers package to be built wich is arch depend. Is it necessary to also build the header package with the optimised options, or is it not ? |
| 18:28.55 | Coutal | kspath: repeatable, first time. just came to upgrade my machine, and encountered this. |
| 18:28.58 | pzn | sid, thanks! |
| 18:29.00 | blondie | abrotman: yep |
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| 18:29.04 | sid | pzn: control + a + d |
| 18:29.06 | levente_kovacs | blondie: I bet you have a mixed system... |
| 18:29.10 | sid | pzn: man screen |
| 18:29.15 | Coutal | is there any packages file verifier? |
| 18:29.16 | sid | !tell pzn about screen |
| 18:29.23 | mfdq | please.. i need to know that. |
| 18:29.24 | mfdq | i want to know if the ati theater 550 pro have support under gnu/linux and what its the module for use that tv-tuner |
| 18:29.26 | blondie | levente_kovacs: what does that mean? it's all testing. |
| 18:29.28 | sid | Coutal: yes of course, there are md5 hashes |
| 18:29.29 | kspath | Coutal: That is what "they" meant by vague. Those are all important pieces of information. |
| 18:29.38 | snickel1650 | abrotman: I get an error that says "couldn't stat source package list ______ no such file or directory |
| 18:29.53 | Coutal | right, sec, i'll compare the hashes. |
| 18:30.05 | levente_kovacs | you installed stable, then.... packages from testing don't you? |
| 18:30.17 | sid | mfdq: yes it has support, the kernel module name is "fglrx" |
| 18:30.21 | Coutal | sid: where can i find the md5 hashes? |
| 18:30.24 | levente_kovacs | blondie: and testing is testing... |
| 18:30.27 | snickel1650 | nvm, I ran apt-get update and it seems to be going |
| 18:30.40 | abrotman | snickel1650: paste your sources somewhere |
| 18:30.46 | blondie | levente_kovacs: ...and? I said I fixed it already. |
| 18:30.48 | abrotman | blondie: yeah .. no good for me :) |
| 18:30.48 | blondie | JEEZ |
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| 18:30.52 | blondie | abrotman: :'( |
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| 18:31.15 | levente_kovacs | blondie: okay..okay... |
| 18:31.16 | blondie | actually I just want someone for their body |
| 18:31.17 | snickel1650 | abrotman: I'm still having the same problems with eclipse |
| 18:31.31 | Coutal | sid: but do note that this is not supposed to happen even on corrupt packages file download... because it will prevent you from updating again, unless you know to manually erase the right files under /var/ap |
| 18:31.35 | Coutal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:32.01 | sid | Coutal: /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 18:32.06 | Coutal | yes, that's what i meant. |
| 18:32.24 | blondie | what's the difference between mozilla-firefox-gnome-support and firefox-gnome-support? |
| 18:32.41 | Coutal | sid: i don't see any files containing the md5 files there. |
| 18:32.59 | Coutal | only gpg signatures |
| 18:33.06 | pzn | sid: nice. "ctrl a d" and "screen -r" solves my problem! I read the manpage and did not know that what I wanted is called "detach". (not native english speaker). thanks! |
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| 18:33.34 | stew | Coutal: md5s for a package would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.md5sums |
| 18:33.46 | Coutal | stew: no, for the packages file. |
| 18:33.52 | Coutal | not for a specific package |
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| 18:34.10 | sid | Coutal: cat /var/lib/apt/lists/*debian_dists_stable_main_binary-*_Packages |
| 18:34.16 | sid | Coutal: cat /var/lib/apt/lists/*debian_dists_stable_main_binary-*_Packages|grep md5 |
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| 18:34.50 | Aconitic | where can i get azureus |
| 18:34.50 | Coutal | sid: no md5 files, but plenty of packages with md5 related dependencies :) |
| 18:34.52 | stew | Coutal: right, but if the packages file is signed there is no reason for a md5sum |
| 18:35.03 | Aconitic | is it on apt? |
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| 18:35.13 | Coutal | stew: okay, great, how do i verify the package file with the gpg signature? |
| 18:35.14 | Ronin | Aconitic: apt-cache search |
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| 18:35.21 | Aconitic | i did but didnt see |
| 18:35.44 | Aconitic | isnt there a special apt server for things like that |
| 18:35.52 | Aconitic | like multimedia stuff |
| 18:36.09 | blondie | how is azureus "multimedia"? |
| 18:36.12 | xanavim | does anyone know a workaround for the following error during debian sarge installation - base system install, Debootstrap error, Couldn't download klogd. Machine has an IP address.. |
| 18:36.18 | blondie | (damn I hate that word) |
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| 18:36.29 | Aconitic | not azureus alone |
| 18:36.37 | Aconitic | like mplayer and codecs for wmv |
| 18:36.47 | Ronin | bittorrent client called multimedia? |
| 18:37.25 | Coutal | stew: i have tried several options with gpg --verify and read the manpage, but i can't figure out how to verify the packages file. |
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| 18:38.05 | Aconitic | no |
| 18:38.09 | Lopa | is there any equivalent for isa client (win2000) for linux ? |
| 18:38.11 | Aconitic | i just need an apt source that has codecs |
| 18:38.19 | Aconitic | for wmv |
| 18:38.25 | lastnode | Aconitic: w32codecs |
| 18:38.37 | stew | Coutal: gpg --verify signaturefile packagefile |
| 18:38.40 | lastnode | marilatt iirc |
| 18:38.42 | lastnode | !marilatt |
| 18:38.53 | Coutal | stew: doesn't work. "gpg: can't check signature: public key not found" |
| 18:39.19 | stew | Coutal: you need to add the key to your keyring |
| 18:39.24 | Aconitic | lastnode, is that the package? |
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| 18:39.31 | lastnode | Aconitic: of course :) |
| 18:39.35 | lastnode | marilatt is a repo though |
| 18:39.36 | Aconitic | its not found |
| 18:39.40 | Aconitic | on ftp.us.debian.org |
| 18:39.43 | lastnode | Aconitic: you need the right repo |
| 18:39.51 | lastnode | Aconitic: deb wont have non-free stuff in its repos |
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| 18:40.03 | Aconitic | what would? |
| 18:40.03 | Coutal | stew: is it the same keyring from debian-keyrings? |
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| 18:40.15 | lastnode | !w32codecs |
| 18:40.16 | dpkg | methinks w32codecs is a package that is not in Debian due to legal issues. The package provides numerous codecs for popular (but proprietary) multimedia codecs, such as avi, wmv, wma, normally found on windows systems. Ask me about <marillat> or <debian-multimedia> for more information on how to get support for these codecs in debian. There is an article at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 about w32codecs that ad |
| 18:40.19 | Aconitic | and since when are these not free |
| 18:40.26 | lastnode | !marillat |
| 18:40.27 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 18:40.30 | lastnode | sorry |
| 18:40.36 | lastnode | flood :\ |
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| 18:41.18 | Aconitic | so add http://debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 18:41.22 | Aconitic | to my sources list>? |
| 18:41.25 | stew | Coutal: unless you tell it a keyring on the comand line, its using the current user's keyring |
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| 18:42.00 | lastnode | Aconitic: er yeah http://debian-multimedia.org/debian/ i think |
| 18:42.01 | Ronin | no Aconitic did yo msg dpkg about marillat.sarge? |
| 18:42.09 | lastnode | oh sarge? |
| 18:42.12 | Coutal | i see. but there's no keyring file in /var/apt/... . who signs the packages files? but anyway i will import everything under debian-keyring and try again |
| 18:42.20 | Ronin | or marillat.etch depending of course |
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| 18:43.38 | tainted_ | how do i show the network interface gateway info with ifconfig? |
| 18:43.51 | sid | tainted_: type "ifconfig" |
| 18:43.53 | lastnode | tainted_: route? |
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| 18:44.11 | abrotman | sid: which would be useful .. if it showed the gateway |
| 18:44.13 | lastnode | tainted_: you want to be allocated dhcpd is it? |
| 18:44.26 | lastnode | sid: dude, im sorry, but im running etch |
| 18:44.28 | lastnode | xD |
| 18:44.38 | abrotman | route -n will show it |
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| 18:45.16 | sid | lastnode: huh? |
| 18:45.30 | sid | lastnode: I disconnecnted...what is your problem? |
| 18:45.51 | lastnode | sid: nvm, i was ribbing on your nick |
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| 18:46.47 | tainted_ | when i use vi, numbers i type via numpad show up as letter + carriage return |
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| 18:46.57 | tainted_ | is that some kind of emulation problem? |
| 18:47.01 | abrotman | is the numlock on/off ? |
| 18:47.16 | Lopa | is there any equivalent for isa client (win2000) for linux ? |
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| 18:47.29 | abrotman | Lopa: what is ISA client ? |
| 18:47.33 | valdyn | Lopa: what's an isa client? |
| 18:47.36 | valdyn | ... |
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| 18:47.48 | abrotman | Internet Security Application? |
| 18:47.57 | abrotman | Lopa: RDP ? |
| 18:48.06 | snickel1650 | can anyone help me mount an external harddrive? |
| 18:48.06 | Lopa | its a server client prog .. |
| 18:48.11 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 18:48.12 | dpkg | tetrinet is probably multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 18:48.15 | abrotman | Lopa: that does .. WHA? |
| 18:48.17 | abrotman | what ... |
| 18:49.05 | Coutal | stew: it finished importing all the keys from debian-keyring. it seems like none of them is the signer on the packages file. is there any ftp-master keyring or something of that sort? |
| 18:49.37 | tainted_ | how do i scan every file on my filesystem for a certain text -- say 'foobar' |
| 18:49.52 | stew | Coutal: gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F |
| 18:49.54 | valdyn | tainted_: grep -R foobar / |
| 18:49.55 | sid | tainted_: find /|xargs cat|grep foobag |
| 18:49.58 | lastnode | grep? |
| 18:50.00 | lastnode | use find |
| 18:50.10 | abrotman | !win valdyn |
| 18:50.10 | dpkg | Congratulations, valdyn! You have won the US presidency! |
| 18:50.14 | kspath | tainted_: every file? even binaries? |
| 18:50.34 | valdyn | won by a margin |
| 18:50.35 | abrotman | !uuoc sid |
| 18:50.48 | Coutal | stew: right, me bad... this will also tell who's the signer :) |
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| 18:51.59 | tainted_ | not binaries |
| 18:52.04 | tainted_ | just text files |
| 18:52.09 | tainted_ | is grep or find better? |
| 18:52.23 | myren | how do i convert a DOS file to Unix? |
| 18:52.27 | kspath | tainted_: in what context/situation/environment? |
| 18:52.29 | valdyn | !dos2unix |
| 18:52.30 | dpkg | dos2unix is in the sysutils package; or you could use col, recode, fromdos, flip, tr -d '\r', or even perl -pi -e 's/\r\n/\n/g' |
| 18:52.39 | myren | tainted_: they're totally different programs, grep looks IN files, find looks FOR files |
| 18:52.41 | kspath | tainted_: try them |
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| 18:52.47 | myren | hrm, cool thanks |
| 18:52.48 | dasenjo_ | Hi! I'm trying to configure a tplink adsl modem with pppoeconf, I got "pppoe: Timeout waiting for PADO packets" .. can someone help me? |
| 18:52.48 | tainted_ | i need to look in files |
| 18:52.56 | tainted_ | so grep -R foobar /? |
| 18:53.06 | valdyn | tainted_: that would take a year on my system |
| 18:53.12 | kspath | tainted_: try it and/or man grep |
| 18:53.16 | myren | Got free time? |
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| 18:53.21 | valdyn | tainted_: now i dont know about yours but it will hardly be quick |
| 18:53.26 | lastnode | tainted_: grep is kind of slow |
| 18:53.29 | bjohnson | anyone know the debootstrap install process? |
| 18:53.32 | lastnode | find or locate are better options |
| 18:53.33 | lotuspsychje | anyone knows howto change mac adress on linux? |
| 18:53.36 | lastnode | bjohnson: i love it :) |
| 18:53.40 | lastnode | bjohnson: only way i install deb |
| 18:53.41 | lepton | lotuspsychje: yes |
| 18:53.41 | valdyn | grep is ESSENTIAL for his purpose |
| 18:53.44 | kspath | tainted_: No limits on your search other than not binaries? |
| 18:53.48 | lotuspsychje | lepton |
| 18:53.50 | lotuspsychje | i tryed |
| 18:53.53 | lotuspsychje | but got error |
| 18:54.01 | lotuspsychje | ifconfig hw ethX xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx |
| 18:54.11 | dasunt | has anyone run sarge with a 2.2 kernel? |
| 18:54.12 | bjohnson | lastnode: when setting up grub .. do you use the /dev/hd of where the HD IS or where it is GOING to be (in another machine)? |
| 18:54.15 | lotuspsychje | get some wrong adress and name error |
| 18:54.18 | tainted_ | kspath yes |
| 18:54.22 | tainted_ | don't need to look in binaries |
| 18:54.40 | lastnode | bjohnson: you mount -bind /dev/ to the chroot, and then, er, i usually install grub to /dev/hda (mbr) |
| 18:54.50 | valdyn | tainted_: what exactly are you trying to find? |
| 18:55.00 | lepton | lotuspsychje: examine output of ifconfig (no args) 1st. think. |
| 18:55.15 | kspath | tainted_: valdyn's question is useful. |
| 18:55.27 | valdyn | tainted_: i cant imagine the information you gave is all you have |
| 18:55.31 | tainted_ | valdyn i am trying to rsync to servers, and find/replace the old network info w/ the new one |
| 18:55.38 | lotuspsychje | not sure i got the right cmd here |
| 18:55.42 | lotuspsychje | i'm on ubuntu |
| 18:55.44 | valdyn | tainted_: 'network info' ? |
| 18:55.46 | abrotman | isn't there an option in rsync for that |
| 18:55.49 | valdyn | tainted_: what's that? |
| 18:55.50 | lastnode | lotuspsychje: oh oh |
| 18:55.50 | abrotman | lotuspsychje: #ubuntu |
| 18:55.53 | Aconitic | is that a safe site? |
| 18:55.53 | kspath | lotuspsychje: /join #ubuntu |
| 18:55.57 | lotuspsychje | yeah i know |
| 18:55.58 | bjohnson | lastnode: is that step missing from the docs? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en#id2534675 |
| 18:56.03 | Aconitic | debian-multimedia |
| 18:56.08 | lotuspsychje | but they think its impossible there |
| 18:56.18 | Coutal | stew: so the signature is correct, and the md5 hash for the packages file is correct. so it is supposedly not corrupt, but still apt segfaults. |
| 18:56.25 | tainted_ | abrotman do u know the option for rsync? |
| 18:56.32 | lastnode | bjohnson: im a gentoo user too, so i just modify the gentoo docs to suit me. why, doesnt your chroot see /dev/hdX? |
| 18:56.40 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:56.40 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:56.43 | valdyn | tainted_: you arent trying to tell us that the network info is stored in an unknown file at an unknown place? |
| 18:56.53 | bjohnson | lastnode: not listed in the df or mount output |
| 18:57.04 | bjohnson | (after I chroot to it) |
| 18:57.05 | kspath | !valdyn++ |
| 18:57.10 | tainted_ | valdyn well they are in various configs |
| 18:57.12 | abrotman | just for five minutes |
| 18:57.21 | lastnode | bjohnson: hrm. do the bind. i actually had this problem a few days back |
| 18:57.23 | kspath | abrotman: u kan nut |
| 18:57.23 | lastnode | so now what i do is |
| 18:57.32 | lastnode | install another os, and boot grub from there |
| 18:57.32 | valdyn | tainted_: my config is limited to being in /etc and ~/.* |
| 18:57.39 | lastnode | bjohnson: is this etch? |
| 18:57.58 | tainted_ | well not just configs.. also perl scripts and such |
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| 18:58.02 | valdyn | tainted_: and that is not even limiting things to network |
| 18:58.10 | Coutal | so should i file a bugreport on apt? |
| 18:58.10 | kspath | abrotman: thx, u r funi becuz I'm incapable of youing English. |
| 18:58.18 | bjohnson | etch? I'm installing debian via debootstrap using a fedora machine |
| 18:58.42 | valdyn | tainted_: and those perl scripts sure are randomly spread everywhere |
| 18:58.59 | Rockj | when mysqld is listning on my public internet ip, is it good enough protected if in /etc/hosts.deny contains mysqld: ALL , then in /etc/hosts.allow contains mysqld: localhost, host.server.net, other.ips, last.ip ? |
| 18:59.14 | jair | which one is a good web mail to make it work on debian sarge ? with portfix? I already have the MTA working pop and smtp I just need a web mail |
| 18:59.17 | Rockj | or should I setup iptables to block instead? |
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| 18:59.22 | blondie | Rockj: also make your mysql users host restricted |
| 18:59.23 | kspath | abrotman: I find it sad that those that know English as a Second or Third or Fourth language seem to be quite capable of using you and thanks and the like yet others seem to think they are 31337 so they have issues. |
| 18:59.29 | stew | Coutal: what version of apt are you running? |
| 18:59.32 | valdyn | tainted_: 'grep -R foo /etc' will be quick anyway |
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| 18:59.55 | tainted_ | valdyn thanks |
| 18:59.55 | Rockj | blondie: I have done that..but I'm afraid that everyone who portscans my server sees that mysql port is open. |
| 18:59.57 | Coutal | 0.6.44.1 |
| 19:00.01 | valdyn | tainted_: but you seem to be looking for 'sed' |
| 19:00.06 | valdyn | tainted_: the sed program |
| 19:00.23 | blondie | Rockj: yes, iptables wouldn't hurt |
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| 19:00.43 | blondie | Rockj: also set it to drop pings |
| 19:00.46 | blondie | so people can't ping you |
| 19:01.12 | Aconitic | does anyone have a source with azureus on it? |
| 19:01.21 | valdyn | Aconitic: use upstream |
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| 19:02.11 | Aconitic | upstream? |
| 19:02.19 | abrotman | kspath: ah .. the evolution of language |
| 19:02.28 | valdyn | Aconitic: azureus,sourceforge,net, not a debian package |
| 19:02.33 | abrotman | Aconitic: go to the official website |
| 19:02.37 | Coutal | stew: i think 0.6.44.1 is the latest |
| 19:02.40 | abrotman | !commasmite valdyn |
| 19:02.41 | Aconitic | oh |
| 19:02.50 | GaiaX11 | When I turn on the PC what can i do not to restore the previous session in kde? |
| 19:02.51 | raf256 | !smitesmite abrotman |
| 19:02.52 | tainted_ | valdyn it's stuck at grep: /proc/kcore: Operation not permitted |
| 19:02.56 | dasunt | Aconitic: There might be debs available. |
| 19:03.02 | dondelelcaro | streuner: 384M or something |
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| 19:03.08 | stew | Coutal: then yeah, sounds like you should probably file on apt (assuming such a bug isn't already filed) |
| 19:03.20 | valdyn | tainted_: why would you search /proc ? |
| 19:03.21 | kspath | abrotman: I think rather the de-evolution of "language". |
| 19:03.27 | abrotman | kspath: perhaps |
| 19:03.33 | Rockj | blondie: I'll fix iptables , but I kinda like to be able to ping my boxes so I know if their online or not =) |
| 19:03.33 | Coutal | stew: checked with reportbug before coming here. looks like nothing |
| 19:03.53 | blondie | Rockj: well, portscanners tend to go for boxes they see are up by pinging |
| 19:03.54 | valdyn | tainted_: limit your search to where those files could actually be, /proc never contains real files |
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| 19:04.20 | kspath | tainted_: limiting your search will help a lot. |
| 19:04.53 | valdyn | tainted_: i still dont get what the hell you're at, no one sane would spread magic numbers all over |
| 19:05.19 | tainted_ | i just put grep -R foobar / |
| 19:05.43 | kspath | valdyn: Do not bring knowledge or experience or reason or logic or ... into whatever tainted_ is talking about. It will confuse people. |
| 19:06.09 | valdyn | tainted_: thats a bad example, admittedly |
| 19:06.23 | tainted_ | k |
| 19:06.34 | tainted_ | so how could i skip /proc |
| 19:06.35 | Aconitic | does w32codecds work for firefox>? |
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| 19:06.48 | kspath | tainted_: man grep |
| 19:06.53 | blondie | why would firefxo need codecs? |
| 19:06.57 | blondie | +sp |
| 19:07.15 | Aconitic | to play w32 |
| 19:07.15 | kspath | blondie: jpeg? gif? mp3? ...? |
| 19:07.26 | Aconitic | plugins... |
| 19:07.26 | blondie | x.x |
| 19:07.39 | blondie | kspath: fine :'( |
| 19:07.41 | jivco | Can you tell me what is better: software RAID card like Silicon image 3112 or just software raid with madm tools? |
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| 19:07.43 | kspath | blondie: I do not even know. just spitballing. |
| 19:07.49 | blondie | "to play w32" yes right |
| 19:07.51 | dondelelcaro | jivco: probably the latter |
| 19:07.57 | Aconitic | wmv* |
| 19:08.14 | Aconitic | ok ill try again |
| 19:08.15 | valdyn | jivco: its the same on debian |
| 19:08.31 | Aconitic | to play windows media videos in firefox streamed from a online source |
| 19:08.35 | Aconitic | I need a pluging |
| 19:08.38 | valdyn | jivco: and all use mdadm |
| 19:08.41 | Aconitic | plugin* |
| 19:08.42 | Aconitic | k? |
| 19:08.49 | jivco | 10x |
| 19:09.00 | valdyn | jivco: you only have the choice between mdadm software raid or true hardware raid |
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| 19:10.24 | jivco | 10x for the info |
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| 19:10.25 | blondie | 10x what? |
| 19:10.25 | Ronin | 10x pay raise would be nice |
| 19:10.25 | blondie | hmm yes |
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| 19:10.55 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:10.55 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 19:10.56 | sid | Aconitic: What version of debian are you using? |
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| 19:12.08 | wiseman | Hello, i'm using Debian 3.1, and procps-3.26. When i use ps x, i get 3 pids per eggdrop, 1 + two childs :s it should display one pid. how can i fix that please ? |
| 19:12.24 | blondie | the plural of child is children |
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| 19:12.42 | yang | does anyone uses cacti ? |
| 19:12.50 | Ronin | !anyone |
| 19:12.51 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 19:12.52 | kspath | yang: no |
| 19:12.53 | blondie | yang: yes. |
| 19:13.11 | Ronin | worries me that im remembering those commands now |
| 19:13.24 | yang | blondie: ok i will paste my errors in #flood, could you check there? |
| 19:13.41 | blondie | yang: I don't use it |
| 19:13.49 | blondie | I was just answering whether *anyone* uses it |
| 19:14.16 | blondie | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 19:14.28 | kspath | yang: apprently I am wrong. There is a http://www.cacti.net/ that seems to prove that someone does use cacti. |
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| 19:14.59 | sid | yang: nagios > cacti |
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| 19:15.20 | yang | sid: what? |
| 19:15.23 | sid | !nagios |
| 19:15.29 | sid | !cacti |
| 19:15.30 | dpkg | methinks cacti is a full network graphing solution designed to harness the power of RRDTool's data storage and graphing functionality. It provides a fast poller, advanced graph templating, multiple data acquisition methods, and user management features out of the box. All of this is wrapped in an intuitive, easy to use interface that makes sense for LAN-sized installations up to complex networks with hundreds of devices. cacti.net |
| 19:15.33 | wiseman | Hello, i'm using Debian 3.1, and procps-3.26. When i use ps x, i get 3 pids per eggdrop, 1 + two childs :s it should display one pid. how can i fix that please ? |
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| 19:15.51 | Aconitic | what plugins for firefox are needed to display .wmv |
| 19:15.51 | paroneayea | what's the modern route for getting opengl to work on debian systems? |
| 19:15.53 | Aconitic | in debian |
| 19:15.54 | paroneayea | er |
| 19:15.56 | qweo | wiseman: you want display only one PID?Or run only one eggdrop? :) |
| 19:15.57 | paroneayea | with mesa? |
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| 19:16.03 | yang | I get these 2 errors, while starting cacti: |
| 19:16.06 | wiseman | qweo display only one pid |
| 19:16.09 | yang | <yang> Warning: mysql_connect(): Lost connection to MySQL server during query in /usr/share/cacti/site/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 339 |
| 19:16.10 | yang | [21:10:35] <yang> May 25 21:03:01 zeus mysqld[6012]: Version: '4.0.24_Debian-10sarge1-log' socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' port: 3306 Source distribution |
| 19:16.10 | sid | paroneayea: What version of debian? |
| 19:16.16 | paroneayea | sid: unstable |
| 19:16.18 | pbryan | Can anyone point me to a good channel to discuss LUKS or cryptography in general? |
| 19:16.19 | FaithX | I have patched my xorg driver source and I need to rebuild the module but there is no make file in the driver directory. How do I rebuild the driver module? |
| 19:16.23 | sid | paroneayea: I can't help you sorry. |
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| 19:16.30 | qweo | wiseman: ps aux | grep eggdrop | head -n 1 :) |
| 19:16.39 | blondie | sid: surely you're running sid? |
| 19:16.42 | wiseman | huh |
| 19:16.43 | kspath | wiseman: apt-cache search eggdrop? |
| 19:16.56 | three | does anyone know why dpkg --purge wouldnt tell me "/some/path not empty so not removed" although the directory is still there? |
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| 19:17.12 | paroneayea | there seems to be xlibmesa-* packages and one single package, mesa3 |
| 19:17.14 | valdyn | three: because you or some other program that you are not purging put a file there |
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| 19:17.20 | sid | Aconitic: apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer |
| 19:17.21 | paroneayea | they do not seem intercompatible, I'm not sure which to install |
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| 19:17.32 | sid | Aconitic: apt-get install mplayer mozilla-mplayer w32codecs |
| 19:17.38 | sid | Aconitic: Then restart firefox and you're set. |
| 19:17.54 | wiseman | qweo, how can i make it default ? to display only the head.. |
| 19:17.58 | pbryan | sid: you seem unstable |
| 19:18.00 | three | valdyn: yes, a file is still there, and im wondering why dpkg doesnt tell me that the dir couldnt be removed :) |
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| 19:18.21 | yang | well, i guess nobody can fix the lines about cacti |
| 19:18.23 | valdyn | three: uh? |
| 19:18.31 | goombah234 | I'm trying to get the 2.6.15 kernel with sarge on a dell optiplex gx620 with serial ata drive. I'm getting a kernel panic. upgrading 2.6.8. Any ideas? |
| 19:18.31 | Ronin | yang: patience |
| 19:18.41 | valdyn | three: it tells you /some/path not empty so not removed, isnt that enough? |
| 19:19.02 | valdyn | three: oh i misread |
| 19:19.04 | three | valdyn: no i dont get that message, thats what confuses me |
| 19:19.28 | valdyn | three: so its not even trying to remove that directory because it didnt create it |
| 19:19.31 | stoned | wtf is this, man, everything required a goddamn email and for you to register |
| 19:19.55 | stoned | i hate the internet :( |
| 19:20.01 | sid | goombah234: How are you upgrading? |
| 19:20.02 | wiseman | qweo, how can i make it default ? to display only the head.. ? |
| 19:20.10 | sid | goombah234: Is this a production server or a desktop? |
| 19:20.14 | valdyn | stoned: there's alot of money in data mining |
| 19:20.24 | qweo | wiseman: alias showepid="ps aux | grep eggdrop | head -n 1" :) |
| 19:20.27 | Ronin | stoned: thats what gmail/hotmail accounts are for |
| 19:20.29 | three | valdyn: yes it does. at least thats what the debug output tells me. hmmmm |
| 19:21.13 | goombah234 | sid: desktop, I guess. I'm not completely sure what you mean. I wanted to upgrade the kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.15 and it blew up. |
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| 19:21.24 | wiseman | qweo normaly ps should display only the eggdrop child pid... normaly... it means something is wrong with procps... |
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| 19:21.40 | valdyn | wiseman: why? |
| 19:21.41 | sid | goombah234: Are you on your system now? |
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| 19:21.59 | goombah234 | on a separate system beside it |
| 19:21.59 | valdyn | wiseman: you can try sending signals to each pid |
| 19:22.01 | goombah234 | easier to fix stuff that way |
| 19:22.30 | goombah234 | I know that it's now running udev, which I don't think it was running under 2.6.8 |
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| 19:22.48 | wiseman | valdyn an eggdrop has normaly one pid, and if i kill one of the three, all of them get killed.. |
| 19:22.55 | wiseman | there is only one head pid.. |
| 19:22.57 | sid | goombah234: So does the system boot? |
| 19:23.10 | valdyn | wiseman: are you used to 2.4 kernels? |
| 19:23.27 | sid | goombah234: Is the system running now and you have a root shell to type commands into? |
| 19:23.34 | wiseman | valdyn humm don't know |
| 19:23.41 | wiseman | valdyn how can i get the kernel version ? |
| 19:23.46 | valdyn | wiseman: uname -r |
| 19:23.51 | goombah234 | it doesn't seem to work under 2.6.8 anymore either. I also had a 2.4.27 kernel on there and it boots under that, so at least I can get at files. |
| 19:23.58 | valdyn | wiseman: you're using a 2.6 kernel i guess |
| 19:23.59 | wiseman | 2.4.20-021stab028.3.777-enterprise |
| 19:24.00 | kspath | wiseman: man 7 signal |
| 19:24.06 | valdyn | wiseman: uh |
| 19:24.22 | goombah234 | sid: yeas, I have a root shell |
| 19:24.26 | valdyn | wiseman: no idea, that is not a debian kernel |
| 19:24.34 | tty02 | w00t got my wifi module loaded :D |
| 19:24.42 | sid | goombah234: Put your /etc/apt/sources.list file on http://debian.pastebin.com |
| 19:24.50 | blondie | if I add a printer using cups, should it be usable via lpr? |
| 19:24.52 | valdyn | wiseman: and if it has a pthreads patch or if such a thing even exists, i cant know |
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| 19:25.05 | tty02 | does anyone know a wifi config console tool? |
| 19:25.11 | blondie | or lpq etc |
| 19:25.12 | goombah234 | ok.... do I use ftp for that or something? |
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| 19:25.33 | sid | goombah234: Use firefox or whatever web browser you prefer. |
| 19:25.52 | wiseman | valdyn i'm lost |
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| 19:26.14 | sid | goombah234: Open firefox and put in the address bar /etc/apt/sources.list highlight all the text, then control t and put in www.pastebin.com and paste all the text in the white box...hit send...and then copy and link and give it to me. |
| 19:26.19 | valdyn | wiseman: im just saying that i cannot help you with non-debian issues |
| 19:26.21 | goombah234 | X isn't on it, but I'll sftp it somewhere from where I can paste it |
| 19:26.41 | wiseman | valdyn i'm using Debian 3.1 sarge |
| 19:26.42 | wiseman | :s |
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| 19:28.27 | wiseman | valdyn how can i upgrade the kernel |
| 19:28.30 | valdyn | wiseman: point is the kernel |
| 19:28.40 | valdyn | wiseman: that wont reduce your process number |
| 19:29.01 | goombah234 | sid:http://debian.pastebin.com/737792, but it looks pretty standard to me |
| 19:29.50 | sid | goombah234: How do you feel about upgrading to etch? |
| 19:30.30 | goombah234 | sid:I guess I could do it. Why is that necessary? |
| 19:30.43 | sid | goombah234: no not at all |
| 19:30.58 | sid | goombah234: But you'd have newer software on your system, since it's a desktop machine this might please you. |
| 19:31.05 | sid | ie instead of firefox 1.0.4 you'd have firefox 1.5 etc |
| 19:31.37 | goombah234 | Would it make my problems with the drive go away? |
| 19:31.45 | jetscreamer | probably not |
| 19:31.49 | sid | goombah234: no |
| 19:32.05 | sid | goombah234: But we can get you a new kernel as we get you a dist-upgrade |
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| 19:32.15 | sid | And that _might_ make your drive problems go away. |
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| 19:32.22 | goombah234 | ok, that might be a good thing |
| 19:32.36 | sid | goombah234: type this as root # apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:32.41 | sid | So you have the latest sarge softwares |
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| 19:33.17 | goombah234 | ok, I'll try that. Before I do though, the exact message is "Begin: Waiting for root file system" and then it hangs |
| 19:33.23 | sid | goombah234: If I ran etch my sources.list file would look like this... http://pastebin.com/737803 |
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| 19:33.52 | goombah234 | actually, it eventually drops to busybox |
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| 19:34.52 | sid | After the dist-upgrade for sarge is done, edit your sources.list file and change it to what pastebin shows...then type # apt-get update && apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r` |
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| 19:35.04 | prog | hello to all |
| 19:35.16 | sid | goombah234: Then reboot into your new kernel and come back...and then we'll do dist-upgrade |
| 19:35.20 | sid | !greet prog |
| 19:35.20 | dpkg | Hello, prog |
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| 19:35.26 | goombah234 | ok, I'll try that. Thanks! |
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| 19:35.48 | qweo | sid: may i ask.... how get new kernel if try to install current kernel? :) |
| 19:36.02 | qweo | you're say about `uname -r` |
| 19:36.13 | prog | Could someone explain the difference between DEBIAN AMD64 ETCH and DEBIAN AMD64 SARGE ? Other words - what is Etch and what is Sarge ? Isn`t it the same ? |
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| 19:36.25 | sid | qweo: er good question |
| 19:36.31 | abrotman | etch is currently testing .. things may be broken .. sarge is stable |
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| 19:36.33 | valdyn | !tell prog -about etch |
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| 19:36.36 | valdyn | !tell prog -about sarge |
| 19:36.41 | stew | !tell sid about testing security |
| 19:36.43 | qweo | maybe just apt-get install linux-image? :) |
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| 19:37.05 | prog | ok, thank you |
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| 19:37.27 | sid | goombah234: After the dist-upgrade for sarge is done, edit your sources.list file and change it to what pastebin shows...then type # apt-get update && apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-`uname -m` |
| 19:37.37 | jetscreamer | in a file like reportbug.conf, how do i encrypt the value for password=$pwvalue so that it's not stored or sent in plain |
| 19:37.49 | Maulkin | hmm... better go update that testing security info |
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| 19:38.01 | abrotman | jetscreamer: just put in <pwvalue> .. |
| 19:38.05 | sid | stew: But /topic says testing security |
| 19:38.08 | abrotman | Maulkin: yeah .. get on that! .. slacker! |
| 19:38.24 | Maulkin | Oh, someone has already done that :) |
| 19:38.25 | zinosat | how can I unpack the content of an inirtd.gz |
| 19:38.26 | jetscreamer | abrotman: i don't want it non-encrypted |
| 19:38.31 | abrotman | eh .. ok |
| 19:38.40 | stew | sid: the sources.list for etch that you posted has the older testing security repository, not the security.debian.or one |
| 19:38.48 | Maulkin | Better go updtae the secure testing web page + instructions |
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| 19:39.06 | jetscreamer | how do you generate a hash of the password that you can type in the reportbug.conf |
| 19:39.09 | sid | stew: or testing security factiod changed |
| 19:39.11 | jetscreamer | and it will work |
| 19:39.18 | sid | thanks stew |
| 19:39.23 | Maulkin | OOI, does anyone know how apt copes with 302s? |
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| 19:39.47 | stew | Maulkin: oh does the other repository 302? good question |
| 19:40.19 | Maulkin | stew: It doesn't, but it would be nice if it did. |
| 19:40.25 | kevin | valdyn: Could you recommend any good material on better understanding DNS ? - I know a fare amount on DNS but i am looking for something that goes into a bit more detail. |
| 19:40.27 | Maulkin | (and apt copes with it) |
| 19:40.31 | stew | right |
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| 19:41.20 | prog | I need remove and reinstall postfix ( because I mixed apt - testing and sarge - and now I have broken dependencies). But when I pu 'apt-get remove postfix', apt will remove a lot of other packages (like mysql, ... ). Is possible to set some packages not to be removed ? |
| 19:41.39 | prog | thank you |
| 19:41.42 | qweo | prog: apt-get install --reinstall postfix |
| 19:41.50 | qweo | try that |
| 19:41.52 | stew | prog: apt-get install postfix=version |
| 19:42.09 | stew | or maybe apt-get install --reinstall postfix=version |
| 19:42.15 | prog | Reinstallation of postfix is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 19:42.23 | prog | apt says ^^^ |
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| 19:42.31 | sid | prog: dpkg -al|grep -v ii |
| 19:42.32 | prog | abicko:~/SRC/DEBS# apt-get install --reinstall postfix |
| 19:42.32 | prog | Reading package lists... Done |
| 19:42.32 | prog | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 19:42.32 | prog | Reinstallation of postfix is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
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| 19:42.35 | sid | prog: Put that on www.pastebin.com |
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| 19:42.55 | prog | sorry for flood |
| 19:42.56 | qweo | prog: check your sources.list |
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| 19:43.10 | pipeline | kevin: tcp/ip illustrated, by stevens. |
| 19:43.12 | prog | deb ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main |
| 19:43.14 | sid | prog: dpkg -al|grep -v ii |
| 19:43.15 | sid | prog: Put that on www.pastebin.com |
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| 19:43.21 | stew | prog: let me understand, you upgraded some stuff to testing and now you are trying to revert to stable? |
| 19:43.25 | prog | ok sid, thanks |
| 19:43.30 | Aconitic | can someone help me download and configure azureus |
| 19:43.39 | prog | stew, yes - you are right |
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| 19:44.12 | stew | prog: in general downgrading is not supported; what does "apt-cache policy libc6" say for "Installed:" ? |
| 19:44.31 | kevin | pipeline: Thanks, I will look into it |
| 19:44.34 | jetscreamer | how do you tell cron to execute a scheduled task 'right now' |
| 19:44.40 | hjubal | hi |
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| 19:45.15 | prog | stew, http://pastebin.com/737838 |
| 19:45.19 | jetscreamer | !tell Aconitic -about non-free |
| 19:45.19 | sid | !greet hjubal |
| 19:45.20 | dpkg | Moo, hjubal |
| 19:45.22 | marculix | jetscreamer: echo "ls -l" | at now |
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| 19:45.35 | quitte | hi. how do i disable acpi? |
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| 19:45.43 | prog | noacpi |
| 19:45.53 | prog | quitte, noacpi in kernel command line |
| 19:45.55 | hjubal | sid, de-he-hi-hi |
| 19:46.02 | hjubal | ;) |
| 19:46.08 | quitte | prog thanks |
| 19:46.19 | jetscreamer | marculix: i mean i have a cron task. it is scheduled to execute daily. i want it to run that task now. |
| 19:46.23 | stew | prog: so you are pretty much on testing now. your choices are to finish upgrading to testing or reinstall |
| 19:46.23 | sid | quitte: update-rc.d -f acpid remove |
| 19:46.25 | prog | quitte, on SMP machines its impossible |
| 19:46.33 | tty02 | how can i config a wireless interface? |
| 19:46.42 | marculix | jetscreamer: run the script manually |
| 19:46.45 | tty02 | like WEP, ESSID |
| 19:46.46 | sid | tty02: What wireless card do you have? |
| 19:46.46 | tty02 | etc |
| 19:46.56 | tty02 | asus WL-167G |
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| 19:46.59 | stew | tty02: man 7 wireless ; man interfaces |
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| 19:47.10 | sid | tty02: Does it work _at all_? |
| 19:47.13 | prog | stew, hmm, the server is production ... its impossible to reinstall :-( |
| 19:47.26 | tty02 | sid, it should |
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| 19:47.36 | tty02 | it is in iwconfig |
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| 19:47.43 | redphoenix1 | hello |
| 19:47.44 | sid | prog: imho then just dist-upgrade to etch |
| 19:47.48 | sid | !greet redphoenix1 |
| 19:47.48 | dpkg | Tag, redphoenix1 |
| 19:48.00 | stew | prog: you win a free subscription to debian-security-announce |
| 19:48.02 | sid | prog: What software is mission critical on the machine? |
| 19:48.04 | prog | sid, etch is testing, isn`t it ? |
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| 19:48.10 | sid | prog: yes |
| 19:48.13 | dli | tty02, I think asus wl-167g works with the rt2x00 driver |
| 19:48.13 | prog | sid, mysql, postfix |
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| 19:48.32 | redphoenix1 | i installed debian with debootstrap and installed the kernel while i was chrooted into the new system |
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| 19:48.40 | sid | prog: What version of mysql and postfix are you running? |
| 19:48.48 | quitte | prog: the kernel booted with acpi again. its not a smp machine |
| 19:48.49 | tty02 | dli, i have that driver |
| 19:48.50 | redphoenix1 | but when i try to boot it the kernel triest o load everyting in /root and not / |
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| 19:49.08 | prog | sid, 4.1.15-1 |
| 19:49.10 | redphoenix1 | is there anything i can do to fix this? |
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| 19:49.28 | prog | quitte, did you write it down in grub ? |
| 19:49.37 | quitte | yes |
| 19:49.39 | tty02 | dli, its more the setting the WEP encryption password and SIDD name without a GUI i problems with |
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| 19:49.54 | prog | sid, postfix is 2.2.10-1 |
| 19:49.58 | sobersabre | damn redhat. |
| 19:50.00 | sid | prog: Try to dist-upgrade to etch |
| 19:50.01 | sobersabre | oops |
| 19:50.02 | sobersabre | hi |
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| 19:50.12 | sid | !greet sobersabre |
| 19:50.12 | dpkg | Tag, sobersabre |
| 19:50.15 | quitte | prog: tried all sorts of things already. acpi=disable acpi=noacpi just noacpi now |
| 19:50.19 | prog | sid, im not sure it is a good idea ... whole server is mission critical |
| 19:50.39 | sid | prog: Why would you get packages from testing to begin with? |
| 19:50.41 | stew | prog: its safer to run testing than a mix of stable and testing |
| 19:50.53 | sid | prog: Most people in here are probably running etch if they are using a desktop. |
| 19:50.54 | prog | quitte, well ... acpi=off |
| 19:51.02 | sid | prog: etch/testing isn't unstable. |
| 19:51.21 | quitte | prog: sigh. ok another walk to the computer and back i guess |
| 19:51.26 | sid | prog: It should be fine. |
| 19:51.55 | sid | prog: yea like stew said...I would rather run one branch..instead of mixing. mixing does bad things. |
| 19:52.21 | prog | sid, stew, well, I will dist-upgrade to etch - on your own risk :-) |
| 19:52.27 | sid | And it's extremely painful to downgrade...so it would appear your only option is to dist-upgrade and run etch completely. instead of partially |
| 19:52.35 | sobersabre | guys. I must use rh at work. and we have stupid issues, probably with ssh versions. we use keybased auth. when trying to connect to rh8-9 box we get instant response, when using it with rhel machines - we get a 2.5 delay. dig gives identical response of dns in both directions on all machines. |
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| 19:52.55 | sid | prog: If it fucks up the machine tell your boss some kid on irc told you it would be ok...and tell him to come talk to me. |
| 19:53.12 | sobersabre | i need idea why the hell the ssh session stalls after the line in debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT |
| 19:53.34 | sobersabre | quitte what is the machine are you working with ? |
| 19:53.34 | blondie | sobersabre: dns? |
| 19:53.46 | blondie | oh |
| 19:53.47 | sobersabre | blondie : no Way. |
| 19:53.56 | stew | prog: you should expect some thing on testing to be broken from time to time. running a mixed stable/testing install is not something we would support here |
| 19:53.57 | blondie | sobersabre: erm ask a redhat channel ;P |
| 19:53.58 | mindbob | Hey guys I have just installed debian 3.1 and upgraded to unstable.. atm its just the base install, what packages do i need to install to get xorg and kde? |
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| 19:54.07 | prog | sid, :-) .... I think you are right ... i have never had problems with testing branch |
| 19:54.15 | stew | prog: if this server is a mission critical production machine you should be running stable on it |
| 19:54.17 | sobersabre | blondie rh channel is composed of mostly ... well i don't want to talk to them. |
| 19:54.28 | jelly | sobersabre: some ssh channel then? |
| 19:54.29 | sobersabre | i prefer critical brains |
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| 19:54.39 | sobersabre | no response... very low traffic. |
| 19:54.41 | blondie | sobersabre: openssh maybe then |
| 19:54.44 | d0uglas | what do i want to use to test out my web server's performance? |
| 19:54.51 | sobersabre | blondie I am there, they have ssh delay ... |
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| 19:54.53 | sobersabre | :) |
| 19:54.55 | prog | stew, yes I know ... but as you say ... mixing does bad things |
| 19:55.00 | nina2 | oi |
| 19:55.01 | chealer | mindbob: if you have to ask that, it's not sane to use unstable. start by reinstalling something else, maybe testing |
| 19:55.04 | blondie | sobersabre: not meaning to be rude, but just because they won't help doesn't mean you can ask here |
| 19:55.09 | mindbob | lol chealer |
| 19:55.13 | quitte | prog: thanks.that did it. now everything works. |
| 19:55.15 | mindbob | i've used unstable for ages |
| 19:55.23 | sobersabre | blondie i don't mean "oh, they are mean they don't help" |
| 19:55.24 | mindbob | i just can't remember the package names e.g. there was a special one iirc |
| 19:55.31 | prog | quitte, ok ... im glad |
| 19:55.34 | blondie | sobersabre: I don't assume you do |
| 19:55.34 | mindbob | to install all of xorg and kde |
| 19:55.36 | jelly | blondie: he does connect from debian though. I hope. |
| 19:55.37 | sobersabre | I mean they don't know what I am talking about. |
| 19:56.01 | sobersabre | dns lookups was their brightest idea |
| 19:56.28 | sobersabre | quitte has quit... |
| 19:56.29 | mindbob | chealer, can you just tell me the package names please? |
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| 19:56.39 | qweo | mindbob: xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xbase-clients and kde i thing.But better to select task such as "KDE desktop" in aptitude - it will auto-install all needed packages |
| 19:56.49 | qweo | *think |
| 19:56.49 | prog | stew, sid ... http://pastebin.com/737865 <-- im running etch now .... but Mysql is just very critical and cannot be reinstalled ... is possible to put some flag not to remove it ? |
| 19:57.23 | sobersabre | prog do you want to freeze its version ? |
| 19:57.30 | mindbob | wasnt there a package like windows-x-system or something? |
| 19:57.30 | stew | prog: you need to upgrade to mysql 5 |
| 19:57.50 | stew | prog: so install postfix-mysql and mysql-server-5.0 |
| 19:57.55 | prog | sobersabre, yes ... i need |
| 19:58.30 | sobersabre | prog why don't you mysqldump into another server, or build a cluster for the time you're messing up. |
| 19:58.30 | sobersabre | ? |
| 19:58.32 | prog | stew, hmm, its not good idea ... the application is optimalized to 4.1 ... as developer says |
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| 19:58.42 | qweo | mindbob: try :) or try aptitude - tasks->end-user->KDE desktop environment |
| 19:59.00 | mindbob | ok thanks |
| 19:59.26 | sobersabre | so blondie, say if you knew it's not a DNS issue... what else can stall an SSH ? |
| 19:59.27 | stew | prog: then you have to reinstall |
| 19:59.38 | prog | stew, whole system ? :-) |
| 19:59.56 | stew | prog: yes |
| 19:59.56 | prog | it will be the best way |
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| 20:00.11 | prog | its impossible ... the server is faraway :-( |
| 20:00.21 | stew | prog: in the future if you need some newer version of a package on stable, use a backport, not packages from testing /msg dpkg backports |
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| 20:01.01 | stew | prog: then you can try to run the older version of postfix on testing, but we can't help you with that here |
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| 20:01.03 | prog | stew, yes yes, thanks |
| 20:01.11 | jelly | sobersabre: hmm... does sshd check ident? |
| 20:01.34 | kingsley | Is there an application which can view .swf files, like mplayer, for example? |
| 20:01.54 | Blissex | kingsley: thats Flash files. |
| 20:02.00 | jelly | kingsley: realplayer can view some versions. |
| 20:02.00 | sobersabre | hm.. jelly do you think it is possible that 2 sshd's with identical sshd_config files behave SO differently ? |
| 20:02.17 | jelly | sobersabre: apparently it is. ;-) |
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| 20:02.39 | jelly | sobersabre: any network configuration/firewall differences? |
| 20:02.39 | destr0 | what package in sarge provides gpg? |
| 20:02.45 | qweo | kingsley: apt-cache search swf player or apt-cache search flash |
| 20:02.45 | blondie | sobersabre: don't know |
| 20:02.47 | sobersabre | jelly so, this should be the difference either in the system ( kernel/libs) or the application itself. |
| 20:02.52 | tarzeau | destr0: gnupg |
| 20:02.53 | tty02 | http://woot.i.got.wifi.pastebin.com/737882 ! |
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| 20:02.59 | sid | prog: Let us know how it works out. |
| 20:03.05 | sobersabre | jelly, they have different IP addresses :) |
| 20:03.23 | madclicker | anyone using amavis on sarge/ |
| 20:03.25 | madclicker | ? |
| 20:03.38 | prog | sid, yes I will .... but now Im considering compile postfix from source |
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| 20:04.00 | sobersabre | jelly , no firewall, same routing, same ip configuration. |
| 20:04.12 | sobersabre | maybe they differ in sysctl settings .... |
| 20:04.23 | sobersabre | bastards.. |
| 20:04.23 | stew | prog: you could compile the sarge postfix packages from source and install the resulting .debs |
| 20:04.32 | jelly | sobersabre: I was thinking if maybe ident checking is on, and one gets an immediate RST (conn.refused) when checking ident on client, while the other doesn't and waits for some timeout. |
| 20:04.39 | prog | stew, huh, yes, good idea |
| 20:04.39 | destr0 | I need to encrypt some files before archiving them, anyone have any other suggestions besides gpg? |
| 20:04.46 | stew | prog: and, of course, the sarge mysql and (if you use them) php packages |
| 20:04.49 | prog | destr0: openssl |
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| 20:05.00 | sobersabre | jelly is it possible to compile sshd with ident on no matter what ? |
| 20:05.13 | jelly | sobersabre: dunno |
| 20:05.20 | sobersabre | :) |
| 20:05.27 | sobersabre | f*cking voodoo. |
| 20:05.38 | sobersabre | i'll strace it. |
| 20:05.48 | jelly | sobersabre: ident is pretty much useless these days. |
| 20:05.58 | sobersabre | hm... how the hell will I strace it... :) |
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| 20:06.03 | kingsley | qweo: Thanks. apt-cache search swf player found libflash-swfplayer, which looks promising. |
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| 20:07.17 | jplibre | only reason ident is useful is to make sure someone is really using their own IP address (though even that is not 100%) |
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| 20:07.29 | jplibre | the original purpose is long gone |
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| 20:08.41 | Maulkin | IIRC, I still use it. It's pretty defunct though |
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| 20:09.30 | jelly | jplibre: it's usable for localhost user identification though. |
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| 20:13.27 | A64 | hey... I can't boot my box! |
| 20:14.16 | qweo | A64: any errors? :) |
| 20:14.26 | tarzeau | sparc? |
| 20:14.26 | jplibre | jelly: not if you or the sysadmin is running something like nullidentd |
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| 20:14.58 | jplibre | It's considered something of an information risk to run a real identd that associates a user running the process. |
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| 20:15.14 | jplibre | I've been running a fake identd on all my systems for years now. |
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| 20:15.28 | A64 | qweo: this: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2637 |
| 20:16.07 | qweo | A64: i have same problem few years ago :) |
| 20:16.13 | qweo | but with sata drive |
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| 20:16.38 | jplibre | Hmm. Anyone here seen any of the redundant power supply systems that offer some way to track power status? All of the ones I have seen just provide one power supply to the motherboard and have no way to tell whether one is down (other than hearing the alarm) |
| 20:16.40 | qweo | i don't compile needed driver in kernel |
| 20:17.04 | A64 | qweo: yesterday I removed a kernel I installed by just make bzImage and make modules and make install ... and then I used I think it was update-ramfs or update-initrmfs ... something in /usr/sbin/ |
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| 20:17.34 | WorldBFree | anybody have experience with dual monitor on ati card? |
| 20:17.38 | qweo | check,do you compile IDE support,your chipset support, etc in kernel |
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| 20:18.24 | qweo | A64: and show your kernel cmdline |
| 20:18.33 | smacnay | What is a good stress test for a system? Some benchmark util? My system is cutting out under stress (locking up) and I am not sure if it is heat, memory, or some glitch on the mobo, or even the application I run when it locks. |
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| 20:18.48 | A64 | qweo: I get the same error even for the debian package kernel ... btw, I'm using etch |
| 20:19.00 | tarzeau | smacnay: there's some memory checker tools |
| 20:19.07 | quitte | smacnay: cpuburn is good for telling you if it is the cpu |
| 20:19.09 | tarzeau | smacnay: there's also cpu stress tools... |
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| 20:19.38 | quitte | smacnay: and there is a crashme package |
| 20:19.45 | smacnay | thanks |
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| 20:20.02 | qweo | A64: show your cmdline |
| 20:20.10 | qweo | A64: cat /proc/cmdline |
| 20:20.29 | A64 | qweo: I used update-initramfs |
| 20:20.44 | quitte | smacnay: there is even a package called stress |
| 20:20.47 | smacnay | I do notice that the bios hardware monitor shows the cpu to be at around 70 deg C but, when booted into linux, the mbmon util shows it at around 40 or below (idle). Not sure which to believe. |
| 20:20.59 | owenh | Hi, does anyone have any advice for speeding up a dialup connection? I've put "bsdcomp 15,15", "deflate 15,15", "vj-max-slots 16", "mru 576", and "mtu 576" in the ppp0 file, but still get <1KB/s. On Fedora (dual-boot), I get >4KB/s. |
| 20:21.03 | quitte | smacnay: touch it |
| 20:21.05 | A64 | qweo: I'm currently on knoppix, I can't boot with _any_ kernel! |
| 20:21.05 | qweo | A64: then check your initrd/initramfs image |
| 20:21.32 | smacnay | right now I have a processor load of 4.00 and temp is at around 56 deg C |
| 20:21.35 | qweo | A64: what bootloader you're using? Show config please |
| 20:21.49 | smacnay | quitte: It doesn't seem too hot when it locks up. |
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| 20:22.14 | prog | sid, stew ... im compiling postfix from source ... it is impossible to put there mysql5 - the server is under load ( 200 users permanently ) and several seconds out of running of mysql will cause end in this work :-) |
| 20:22.17 | Bikalexander | Guten Abend! |
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| 20:22.43 | qweo | Bikalexander: ÄÏÂÒÙÊ ×ÅÞÅÒ :)) |
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| 20:23.55 | Bikalexander | Kann mir bitte jemand helfen? |
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| 20:24.30 | SerajewelKS | Bikalexander: english please |
| 20:24.35 | wdp | Bikalexander, ich glaub man spricht hier englisch |
| 20:24.40 | wdp | Bikalexander, ;-) |
| 20:24.41 | SerajewelKS | !de |
| 20:24.41 | dpkg | well, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net - German speaking users please go to #debian.de either here on freenode or on irc.oftc.net |
| 20:24.46 | honschu | enklisch? was ist dasß |
| 20:24.51 | wdp | heh |
| 20:25.19 | honschu | what is better on irc.oftc.net? |
| 20:25.38 | Bikalexander | ok , danke |
| 20:25.53 | wdp | honschu, it's not better, u have to speak german there *g* |
| 20:26.22 | honschu | Ok, my question is: Why. Why is #debian moving? |
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| 20:26.50 | stew | !irc.debian.org |
| 20:26.50 | dpkg | it has been said that irc.debian.org is the irc.debian.org CNAME will be changed on June 4th to point to oftc, read the announcement here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html and the discussion that led to it here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 20:26.54 | A64 | qweo: hdb1/initrd is empty ... nothing in there. My bootloader is GRUB, and menu.lst: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2638 |
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| 20:27.20 | stew | honschu: #debian is not moving. #debian exists on both servers. the irc.debian.org CNAME is being changed, read the thread on debian-project for reasons why |
| 20:27.27 | stew | ^servers^networks |
| 20:28.58 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: irc.debian.org is <reply> see oftc move |
| 20:28.58 | dpkg | ...but irc.debian.org is already something else... |
| 20:29.03 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, irc.debian.org is <reply> see oftc move |
| 20:29.03 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
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| 20:30.39 | qweo | A64: all seems to be correct. Check /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15A64-386,or try to boot without initrd |
| 20:30.46 | marcelsc | Where can I find the little round crosseyed Tux logo? Such as the one from http://perso.wanadoo.fr/overlord59/img/Mes%20images%20TUX.jpg but without the rest of the junk.. |
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| 20:31.31 | jhenn | Does debian autodetect hardware? |
| 20:31.38 | abrotman | yes |
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| 20:32.55 | A64 | qweo: for 2.6.15A64-386 I see two files initrd.img-2.6.15A64-386 and initrd.img-2.6.15A64-386.orig but for 2.6.15-1-686 only one... and there's also a initrd.splash ... I've been trying to setup bootsplash but I just can't make it work |
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| 20:33.53 | qweo | A64: try to boot without initrd,i thing splash not so critical :) |
| 20:34.16 | A64 | qweo: how do I do that? |
| 20:34.42 | marcelsc | ignore me |
| 20:34.44 | marcelsc | I found it |
| 20:34.49 | abrotman | this ought to go poorly |
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| 20:35.27 | qweo | A64: remove line with "initrd".Please note all critical for boot drivers must be compiled into kernel |
| 20:36.44 | jhenn | abrotman: so on install it will detect my wireless card? |
| 20:36.54 | abrotman | depends on the chipset |
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| 20:39.53 | mick_work | hi everyone, I just ran bastille linux to harden my system, and now I get a lot of messages (it looks like an auditing thing that is spitting out info to STDOUT) |
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| 20:40.04 | mick_work | how can I turn those messages off? |
| 20:40.24 | mick_work | I remember once dealing with this and it had to deal w/ tcpwrappers |
| 20:40.51 | lepton | mick_work: call klogd with -c 3 |
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| 20:42.06 | lepton | mick_work: in particular, add KLOGD="-c 3" to /etc/init.d/klogd |
| 20:42.38 | Brox | how can i let a dir point to another so that the contents of the last are completly accessible from the first? |
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| 20:42.54 | blondie | Brox: ln |
| 20:43.08 | dli | Brox, "mount -o bind " |
| 20:43.17 | mick_work | lepton: thanks so much :-) |
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| 20:45.01 | Brox | yeah thanks |
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| 20:48.46 | Brox | i love you guys! |
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| 20:50.37 | abrotman | Brox: i think blondie is looking for a child bearer ... |
| 20:51.14 | Brox | i love you guys in a very platonic way! |
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| 20:52.13 | Cillian | Is there a way I can locally put a .deb file into the package system so I can test dependancies? |
| 20:52.23 | Cillian | i.e. so I can apt-get install it |
| 20:53.19 | qweo | dpkg -i? |
| 20:53.28 | Cillian | that installs the package |
| 20:53.37 | Cillian | I want to check apt-get will install the dependancies |
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| 20:53.45 | mick_work | anyone have an opinion w/ aide vs tripwire? |
| 20:53.46 | Cillian | dpkg doesn't do dependancies (does it?) |
| 20:53.49 | Maulkin | Cillian: short of setting up a mini archive, no |
| 20:53.51 | mick_work | as an IDS |
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| 20:54.00 | Cillian | Maulkin: mini archive? |
| 20:54.01 | Cillian | hmm |
| 20:54.09 | Maulkin | mick_work: use both? :) |
| 20:54.22 | Maulkin | Cillian: minidinstall may help you @_ |
| 20:54.26 | Maulkin | :) even |
| 20:54.37 | Cillian | sounds complicated |
| 20:54.38 | Cillian | :-( |
| 20:54.42 | mick_work | I currently use aide, Maulkin - isn't that overkill? |
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| 20:55.01 | Maulkin | mick_work: With security, nothing is overkill :) |
| 20:55.12 | Cillian | Maulkin: unplugging the box from network/internet? |
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| 20:55.31 | dronchik | hi anybody can help me please? |
| 20:55.42 | Maulkin | dronchik: ask the question |
| 20:55.43 | dronchik | i just lost ip of my fortigate router |
| 20:55.59 | dronchik | how can i reset that to factory defaults? |
| 20:56.03 | mick_work | Maulkin: yes, I understand that :) but do I need to learn 2 IDSes? |
| 20:56.09 | mick_work | I guess so... |
| 20:56.16 | mick_work | why not, right :-) |
| 20:56.17 | adingman | Anyone know where my Gnome panel command line applet went, and how I can get it back? (Sid) |
| 20:56.20 | Maulkin | dronchik: Erm... A what? |
| 20:56.34 | dronchik | its a router "fortigate" |
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| 20:56.50 | Maulkin | dronchik: Does is have anythoign to do with debian? |
| 20:57.08 | dronchik | nop sorry but i dont know where to ask |
| 20:57.17 | dronchik | just dont know |
| 20:57.22 | Maulkin | adingman: right click on the panel, slect add to panel, select commnd line, click ok. |
| 20:57.35 | adingman | Maulkin: not there as an option. |
| 20:57.48 | dronchik | if anybody can tell me where to find answers, may be someone knows hardware firewalls |
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| 20:57.59 | Maulkin | adingman: should be the 8t6th option |
| 20:58.15 | Maulkin | dronchik: look in teh user manual. Should be a phone number you can call |
| 20:58.24 | adingman | Maulkin: skips from "clock" to "connect to server" |
| 20:58.35 | adingman | Both home and work machines now. |
| 20:58.39 | Maulkin | adingman: Erm... not sure then, sorry |
| 20:58.46 | adingman | No ide what package I'm missing. |
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| 20:58.58 | adingman | s/ide/idea/ |
| 20:59.31 | Maulkin | adingman: "bash /etc/bash_completion" then "apt-get install gnome-panel<tab>" may help |
| 20:59.44 | Maulkin | Sorry, two tabs |
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| 21:00.34 | adingman | Maulkin: only two things matching gnome-panel are gnome-panel and gnome-panel-data. |
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| 21:00.39 | adingman | Already installed. |
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| 21:00.44 | abrotman | blondie: HI! |
| 21:01.04 | Maulkin | adingman: No idea then. Apologies |
| 21:01.19 | adingman | Maulkin: thanks all the same. |
| 21:01.43 | abrotman | adingman: in the gnome-applets |
| 21:01.58 | Maulkin | Ahh, that could be it |
| 21:02.08 | abrotman | adingman: i think the name for it is "Minicommander" .. but noone calls it that anymore AFAIK |
| 21:02.17 | dasunt | Can anyone suggest a command-line cpu load meter that understands about multiple CPUs? |
| 21:02.26 | abrotman | Maulkin: no .. that IS the name for it :) |
| 21:02.58 | abrotman | usr/lib/gnome-applets/mini_commander_applet gnome/gnome-applets |
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| 21:03.11 | adingman | abrotman: That sounds right. Can't find the package, though. |
| 21:03.21 | abrotman | adingman: the package is gnome-applets |
| 21:03.33 | abrotman | adingman: which version of debian ? |
| 21:03.46 | adingman | abrotman: Sid |
| 21:03.58 | abrotman | apparently been removed from the package in sid |
| 21:04.07 | adingman | gnome-applets 2.14.1-1 |
| 21:04.13 | abrotman | !find mini_commander_applet sid |
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| 21:04.56 | vinvin | hi, i'm using new vim from unstable, it really sucks, how can I downgrade to testing 6.4.7 ? |
| 21:05.13 | Maulkin | Erm... |
| 21:05.23 | Maulkin | You could try grabbing the old package and installing it manually |
| 21:05.28 | abrotman | adingman: for whatever reason .. it's not there .. ask #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org .. or check the bts on gnome-applets .. (http://bugs.debian.org/gnome-applets) |
| 21:05.36 | Maulkin | However, saying what sucks may help more |
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| 21:06.01 | abrotman | adingman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=368528 .. see .. isn't the BTS great?!!? |
| 21:06.37 | vinvin | I thougt there were a super apt hack to install lower versions if sources.list is allright |
| 21:06.41 | dondelelcaro | !dbugs 368528 |
| 21:06.44 | dpkg | #368528:N[gnome-applets] mini-commander missing from gnome-applets; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:18:39 UTC |
| 21:06.57 | dondelelcaro | vinvin: there is, but it's not something that you want to do. It involves pinning. |
| 21:07.06 | Maulkin | vinvin: Downgrade isn't possible, generally |
| 21:07.10 | dondelelcaro | in general, if you have to ask how to do it, you really shouldn't. |
| 21:07.19 | adingman | indeed. I always forget that I can get to it. |
| 21:07.22 | unity | how can i browse dpkg's factoids? i am looking for information on wolfenstein: enemy territory, like if the shell script is safe to execute |
| 21:07.31 | vinvin | :( |
| 21:07.36 | dondelelcaro | !your factoids |
| 21:07.36 | dpkg | My factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ They are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. there is a searchable database of my factoids at http://dpkg.vireo.org/ |
| 21:07.40 | adingman | On Vinvin's issue: aptitude makes downgrades easy if both packages are still available. |
| 21:07.50 | vinvin | cool |
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| 21:08.35 | dondelelcaro | adingman: you can downgrade too using apt-get with =fooversion; but it's true that it's not as simple as hitting +. |
| 21:08.48 | Maulkin | oh, yeah, anyone know who runs dpkg |
| 21:08.49 | Maulkin | ? |
| 21:08.51 | adingman | Oh, yes. |
| 21:08.55 | kspath | !dondelelcaro++ |
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| 21:09.09 | azi` | hello, i've noticed that my system is running time on (port 37) and i'm wondering what's the name of the package that ships that application, anyone can help? |
| 21:09.12 | abrotman | Maulkin: huh ? |
| 21:09.14 | dondelelcaro | Maulkin: hi |
| 21:09.16 | superlinux | hi all |
| 21:09.19 | abrotman | dpkg: who owns you |
| 21:09.19 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
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| 21:09.24 | vinvin | dondelelcaro: i did not succeed to do that |
| 21:09.24 | Maulkin | dondelelcaro: you?! :) |
| 21:09.34 | blondie | abrotman: who owns you? |
| 21:09.38 | Maulkin | dondelelcaro: gimmie source for the ops plugin so I can modify :) |
| 21:09.42 | abrotman | blondie: dondelelcaro does |
| 21:09.50 | superlinux | plz do see this ... importnat tool for system driver developers http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/5/24/238 |
| 21:09.50 | vinvin | dondelelcaro: what is the format of the "fooversion" string |
| 21:10.05 | unity | thanks, dondelelcaro |
| 21:10.11 | abrotman | please see this .. important tool for english speakers .. http://dictionary.com/ |
| 21:10.37 | kspath | abrotman: No one uses that anymore. They just make up stuff. |
| 21:11.05 | blondie | abrotman: awww how seet |
| 21:11.07 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: cmd: ops (.*?) =~ s/azeem:/azeem, Maulkin: $nick complains about:/ |
| 21:11.08 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 21:11.09 | blondie | *sweet |
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| 21:11.33 | abrotman | now we're being recorded! |
| 21:11.39 | Maulkin | dondelelcaro: ahh, it's a factoid :) |
| 21:11.45 | dondelelcaro | Maulkin: yeah, just a command one |
| 21:11.49 | kspath | abrotman: !nsatest |
| 21:11.50 | Maulkin | Okies |
| 21:12.07 | abrotman | Maulkin: this means no vacations for a month ... |
| 21:12.11 | kspath | !maulkin |
| 21:12.11 | dpkg | hmm... maulkin is a DD. See http://wiki.debian.org/NeilMcGovern for a definition of 'stuff' |
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| 21:12.36 | abrotman | i see no definition of "stuff" |
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| 21:13.15 | kspath | !stuff |
| 21:13.15 | dpkg | stuff is probably the useless crap repository that needs adding to at http://tool.dhs.org/~chucker/stuff/ |
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| 21:14.27 | vinvin | great that's fine, i'm back with my good vim, thanks all ! |
| 21:14.37 | adingman | :) |
| 21:14.49 | Maulkin | kspath: very insensitive :) |
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| 21:15.04 | adingman | vinvin: you may want to revisit whatever your issues were, since newer versions do tend to trickle down. |
| 21:15.11 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: have you tried the bcm43xx yet? |
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| 21:15.19 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yes, but not recently |
| 21:15.28 | Maulkin | kspath: apt-cache show blootbot | grep Maintainer |
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| 21:15.32 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: basically been waiting for it to hit the 2.6.17 |
| 21:15.35 | dondelelcaro | !maint blootbot |
| 21:15.37 | dpkg | blootbot: Neil McGovern <neilm@debian.org> |
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| 21:16.22 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: oh. its in unstable right now. but i cant get my 2.6.16 to boot. it complains about the root= thing. |
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| 21:16.56 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: oh ya. it does say it will be in 2.6.17. too bad i dont have an extreme card. (= |
| 21:17.23 | vinvin | adingman: talking about vim or debian ? |
| 21:18.04 | adingman | vinvin: the new vim version is likely to trickle down into whatever release you use eventually. |
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| 21:18.16 | Wonko | I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and I want to use some kind of power saving. There are several choices in the Debian packages repository. Any recommendations? |
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| 21:18.25 | tdn | What tool do you recommend for making jails in Debian? I noticed that jailtool can build jails from Debian package information. Is there a de facto standard tool for this? Is there any specific "The Debian Way" for doing this? |
| 21:19.03 | adingman | vinvin: so Maulkin's comment about addressing the issue rather than just downgrading probably has merrit. |
| 21:19.06 | abrotman | Wonko: no powernow packages? |
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| 21:19.17 | kspath | tdn: Are you talking about a chroot? |
| 21:19.18 | deadcat | powernowd |
| 21:19.25 | tdn | kspath: yes. |
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| 21:19.42 | Taure | ahh good - at last: an english server |
| 21:19.51 | vinvin | adingman: I don't really fully understand what you say, sorry. |
| 21:19.58 | abrotman | Taure: que? |
| 21:20.01 | kspath | tdn: FYI jail is used in BSD world and is a bit deeper than a chroot. |
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| 21:20.03 | Taure | you do speak english right? |
| 21:20.10 | abrotman | Taure: yes indeed we do :) |
| 21:20.13 | Taure | lol |
| 21:20.16 | Taure | stupid french |
| 21:20.22 | abrotman | Taure: we try anyways |
| 21:20.24 | vinvin | adingman: vim 7 is really weird, it looks like vi when editing, commands are weirdly responding |
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| 21:21.05 | Wonko | abrotman: I want something reliable. |
| 21:21.05 | tdn | kspath: ok. But I mean chroot. What can you recommend? |
| 21:21.05 | tarzeau | vinvin, adingman: http://vi.mine.nu/ |
| 21:21.05 | A64 | ... I still can-t boot my pc |
| 21:21.10 | abrotman | Wonko: i don't use powersaving .. i can't help much |
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| 21:21.22 | vinvin | tarzeau: u do |
| 21:21.22 | abrotman | Wonko: i'm in the "If i'm not using it .. turn it off" party |
| 21:21.27 | kspath | !tell tdn about chroot |
| 21:21.29 | tarzeau | vinvin: yeah. ask my gf |
| 21:21.29 | Wonko | abrotman: I didn't mean powernow wasn't any good. |
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| 21:21.34 | Taure | don't you sometimes with that you could use a 'save game" feature in real life? |
| 21:21.46 | Taure | i think ill write to god about him adding it in version 2.0 |
| 21:22.02 | TimeGap | u can write to me |
| 21:22.06 | A64 | anybody here could help me, please__ |
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| 21:22.06 | Taure | lol |
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| 21:22.08 | Taure | ok |
| 21:22.09 | Wonko | abrotman: I want it for an HTPC which will be running 24/7, but mostly idle |
| 21:22.11 | adingman | tarzeau: yeah, but vinvin apparently wants to use it anyway ;) |
| 21:22.14 | Taure | ill bow down to you as well |
| 21:22.17 | kspath | !tell TimeGap about u |
| 21:22.18 | Flawless | !tell flawless about chroot |
| 21:22.20 | TimeGap | www.stargatewars.com |
| 21:22.28 | vinvin | indeed, and I do |
| 21:22.31 | TimeGap | !tell im ur god! |
| 21:22.31 | kspath | Flawless: /msg dpkg chroot |
| 21:22.37 | Taure | All bow down to TimeGap, your God! |
| 21:22.38 | gary__ | well that's a good way to be :) |
| 21:22.40 | Flawless | kspath: yeah ok |
| 21:22.51 | Taure | jaffa, cri! |
| 21:23.12 | Taure | if you will not bow, then you will die! |
| 21:23.17 | TimeGap | Kel kek jaffa, KREE! Kel shak tak Timegap! |
| 21:23.25 | tarzeau | i wish google allowed searching pictures by md5sums |
| 21:23.26 | TimeGap | :) |
| 21:23.33 | Taure | All bow down to TimeGap, your God! |
| 21:23.34 | TimeGap | my Goa'uld is not to bad :) |
| 21:23.35 | Taure | All bow down to TimeGap, your God! |
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| 21:23.39 | tarzeau | or it had some type of upload picture, find similar ones |
| 21:23.42 | TimeGap | :) |
| 21:23.58 | Flawless | stop watching so much Stargåte :-) |
| 21:24.01 | kspath | !ask |
| 21:24.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 21:24.03 | Taure | A64 should shove his help up hjis arse |
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| 21:24.08 | TimeGap | http://www.stargatewars.com/recruit.php?uniqid=ex1129978283 |
| 21:24.11 | TimeGap | http://www.stargatewars.com/recruit.php?uniqid=ex1129978283 |
| 21:24.18 | stoned | dude |
| 21:24.19 | stoned | wtf |
| 21:24.20 | TimeGap | look at that! |
| 21:24.21 | TimeGap | OMG! |
| 21:24.23 | abrotman | !ops TimeGap i have no idea what he's doing |
| 21:24.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin: abrotman complains about: TimeGap i have no idea what he's doing |
| 21:24.29 | TimeGap | thats soooooooooooooo kewl! |
| 21:24.32 | Taure | lol |
| 21:24.34 | stoned | fuck stargate |
| 21:24.38 | A64 | Taure /// what__ |
| 21:24.38 | deadcat | abrotman: yes he does. he knows that hes spamming |
| 21:24.42 | abrotman | that wasn't maulkin |
| 21:24.43 | tarzeau | abrotman: and it's not even weekend yet |
| 21:24.44 | Taure | so, any of you like buttsex? |
| 21:24.45 | vinvin | cya ! |
| 21:24.47 | stoned | hey deadcat abrotman tarzeau |
| 21:24.50 | abrotman | deadcat: i suppose |
| 21:24.54 | deadcat | stoned: what up dude. |
| 21:24.57 | tarzeau | hi stoned |
| 21:24.59 | stoned | chillin bro |
| 21:25.07 | tarzeau | Taure: yes i do. you? active? passive? |
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| 21:25.13 | Taure | both |
| 21:25.13 | stoned | trying to find a job, found one 15$/hr fixing MS pcs |
| 21:25.14 | Taure | at once |
| 21:25.15 | stoned | heh |
| 21:25.23 | abrotman | Taure: do you have a Debian related question? |
| 21:25.27 | Taure | yes |
| 21:25.27 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 21:25.28 | tarzeau | Taure: it's fine with enough lube |
| 21:25.28 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@host81-151-159-108.range81-151.btcentralplus.com] by dondelelcaro |
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| 21:25.29 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 21:25.29 | stoned | its temp work, but hell, its something |
| 21:25.53 | kspath | british telecom central plus? |
| 21:26.14 | A64 | well, now... could anybody please help me___ I can-t boot my box with ?any? kernel |
| 21:26.23 | tarzeau | kspath: maybe bt is butt telescope? |
| 21:26.24 | abrotman | where does it stop? |
| 21:26.35 | A64 | *btw, how can I change the kb layout when using twm__( |
| 21:26.43 | tarzeau | A64: you built your own kernel? |
| 21:26.56 | tarzeau | A64: without initrd, and the scsi/ide disk stuff as modules instead of fix in...? |
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| 21:27.52 | A64 | tarzeau: yeah, it was working for already 2 months... and since a week it isn-t working anymore, and not the 2.6.15-1 deb packaged kernel doesn-t works too, so I can-t boot |
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| 21:28.12 | tarzeau | A64: you changed the kernel when it started to stop working? |
| 21:28.16 | stoned | strange, your apostrophe is switched with hypen |
| 21:28.20 | stoned | hyphen* |
| 21:28.29 | tarzeau | streuner: gute nacht |
| 21:28.38 | A64 | tarzeau> I-m getting a VFS error, something like @cannot open root device @hdb1@ or unknown - block *0,0(@ |
| 21:28.45 | stoned | tarzeau, german for good night? |
| 21:28.47 | abrotman | yeah .. you messed up .. use a debian kernel |
| 21:28.48 | tarzeau | A64: yes i've seen it, and i think i know what it is |
| 21:28.55 | prog | is possible to remove postfix ( apt-get remove postfix ) without other related packages ( mysql, ... ). These packages I need to have held. |
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| 21:29.08 | tarzeau | stoned: yes. and can you guess which language is: nopte buna ? |
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| 21:29.11 | abrotman | prog: they depend on postfix |
| 21:29.16 | abrotman | !tell lucho about root |
| 21:29.23 | A64 | raezeau> no.. yesterday I just used update/initramfs while I was using the working kernel *deb pack( |
| 21:29.31 | tarzeau | stoned: swiss german we say: pfus guet |
| 21:29.37 | prog | abrotman: yes, but is possible to force it ? |
| 21:29.37 | stoned | tarzeau, that doesn't sound familiar at all, african? |
| 21:29.40 | tarzeau | A64: 2.4? |
| 21:29.44 | stoned | wild guess |
| 21:29.48 | abrotman | prog: yes .. but you don't want to |
| 21:29.48 | prog | The following packages will be REMOVED |
| 21:29.48 | prog | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.48 | A64 | tarzeau> 2.6 |
| 21:29.52 | tarzeau | A64: yeah debian sid can't do 2.4 linux kernels anymore that sucks |
| 21:29.52 | stoned | afrikanas |
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| 21:30.05 | A64 | tarzeau> with etch |
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| 21:30.07 | tarzeau | A64: well i don't know. 2.6 works fine here (except for webcam/tv) |
| 21:30.12 | tarzeau | A64: oh testing .. hahaha |
| 21:30.24 | prog | abrotman, I need remove postfix and reinstall again ... without deleting mysql (for example) database |
| 21:30.25 | A64 | tarzeau: but I-m sure it wasn-t because of an update... |
| 21:30.28 | tarzeau | A64: man i dislike people who can't stick to sid or stable... |
| 21:30.31 | stoned | nevermind |
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| 21:30.40 | abrotman | prog: apt-get --reinstall install postfix ? |
| 21:30.50 | tarzeau | A64: ask the others, i can't support testing (got no box with testing) |
| 21:31.00 | tarzeau | stoned: .ro |
| 21:31.06 | stoned | ahh, ok |
| 21:31.07 | prog | abrotman: apt says "Reinstallation of postfix is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." |
| 21:31.16 | magyar | is there a way to setup pppoe, to dend an email with the reconnect ip address? |
| 21:31.16 | abrotman | prog: are you using sarge? |
| 21:31.16 | A64 | tarzeau: /me doesn-t like sarge -cause it-s too old for a workstation and sid... you spend about half-one hour each day just trying to fix dependencies problems |
| 21:31.18 | mentor | Sorry I missed that. |
| 21:31.32 | abrotman | mentor: ircop got him .. and don helped! |
| 21:31.33 | tarzeau | A64: who says you MUST upgrade daily with sid? |
| 21:31.42 | stoned | A64, how about backports? |
| 21:31.53 | tarzeau | stoned: they suck |
| 21:31.54 | mentor | Sorry I missed that. |
| 21:32.01 | mentor | :P |
| 21:32.04 | tarzeau | stoned: they are only good if you have a dozen packages with no hard deps |
| 21:32.15 | tarzeau | stoned: if it's larger, you're way better off with sid |
| 21:32.17 | A64 | tarzeau: /me likes to do so... to be updated |
| 21:32.23 | K|NgGh0sT | Can someone help me install a dvb card? I cant get it to make /dev/dvb |
| 21:32.27 | abrotman | mentor: it was *awesome* .. blood everywhere .. i think i see an arm over by tarzeau ... |
| 21:32.30 | MaCa | Is debian/substvars automatically read by dh_* tools or I need to modify the default dh_make-created makefile to make them read debian/substvars? |
| 21:32.31 | K|NgGh0sT | hoops |
| 21:32.34 | tarzeau | A64: well then you should learn to like spending the half hour per day |
| 21:32.37 | prog | abrotman, i have mixture of etch and sarge :-( ( my mistake from installation ) ... and i need add postfix-mysql installed and it depends on newer mysql version - but my application is optimalized for current one and version cannot be changed |
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| 21:32.53 | abrotman | prog: well .. you shouldn't mix :) |
| 21:32.54 | stoned | tarzeau, I wouldn't know, I have not used anything but stable in year, I have no sarge/etch boxes. I do have a sarge/testing installed on my laptop, long time ago, never updated, never needed to, works prefectly |
| 21:32.56 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 21:32.56 | dpkg | sdn is, like, go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problems. |
| 21:32.58 | tarzeau | mentor, abrotman: blood? an arm over by tarzeau? what did i miss |
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| 21:33.03 | stoned | s/stable/sid |
| 21:33.08 | prog | abrotman: yes I now :-) |
| 21:33.19 | goombah234 | Hi, I'm working on a Dell Optiplex GX620 running etch. I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.15 and now it won't boot. It says it can't find my root partition at /dev/hda4. I'm guessing it's something about the serial ata drives and the kernel. Any ideas? |
| 21:33.21 | deadcat | damn. i accidently sudo reboot on the wrong machine (= |
| 21:33.26 | stoned | ouch |
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| 21:33.33 | prog | abrotman, do you see any solution ? |
| 21:33.42 | goombah234 | deadcat: I've done that |
| 21:33.45 | abrotman | prog: find it at snapshot.debian.org .. reinstall it |
| 21:33.55 | deadcat | ok. i am gonna reboot the right machine now. my ibook. and the kernel will panic. so get ready to help me. |
| 21:34.06 | Maulkin | deadcat: That's the reason I have the directory /usr/sbin/ireallymeanit/ |
| 21:34.12 | prog | abrotman, do you mean "find postfix" in snapshot ? |
| 21:34.20 | deadcat | Maulkin: (= |
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| 21:34.37 | tarzeau | stoned: you know, i've got stable boxes (at work) and sid boxes (everywhere) and i've also not updated them for up to two years... and then upgraded them again. and i've NEVER had problems |
| 21:34.39 | stoned | deadcat, heh, my only exp. with macs/debian is powerbook 3400c and sarge/testing |
| 21:34.41 | tarzeau | stoned: i so love sid |
| 21:34.46 | deadcat | VFS: cannot open root device "hda3" or unknow-block(0,0) |
| 21:34.50 | tarzeau | stoned: but the debian new queue sucks |
| 21:34.55 | stoned | tarzeau, yes I do too |
| 21:35.07 | Cruise | for some reason my server wont ping any ips or hostnames, any idea how to fix it |
| 21:35.15 | A64 | deadcat: I-m having exactly the same error... |
| 21:35.16 | deadcat | plearse append a correct "root=" boot option. \n kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0) |
| 21:35.20 | tarzeau | Cruise: what happens if you telnet linuks.mine.nu ? |
| 21:35.26 | deadcat | A64: oh damn |
| 21:35.30 | tarzeau | Cruise: what ip do you have? |
| 21:35.36 | icebaer | eya! Anyone here worked with a chroot before and encountered a "permission denied" error, although the permissions via chmod are set correctly? |
| 21:35.38 | A64 | deadcat> yeah... all the same, but mine is with hdb1 >S |
| 21:35.55 | Cruise | 83.133.125.xx |
| 21:36.04 | tarzeau | Cruise: xx is not a valid ip |
| 21:36.06 | deadcat | A64: the 2.6.14 worked fine. an i am pretty much using the same .config on the 2.6.16.18 dont know what up |
| 21:36.21 | Cruise | 83.133.125.202 |
| 21:36.30 | mentor | abrotman, tarzeau heh |
| 21:36.39 | goombah234 | I think the 2.6.15 image has serial ata as a module, but the main drive is sata. Anyone know of a way around this? |
| 21:36.40 | Cruise | i can ping it, but from ssh i can resolve any hosts or ips |
| 21:36.43 | A64 | deadcat:well, I-m using etch with .15 ... and even the default kernel deb pack doesn-t works... |
| 21:36.43 | tarzeau | Cruise: and what says the telnet command ? |
| 21:36.48 | prog | abrotman, thank you ! ... i do that |
| 21:36.57 | Cruise | unknown host |
| 21:36.57 | deadcat | A64: the default kernl works for me |
| 21:37.07 | tarzeau | Cruise: your dns is broken |
| 21:37.08 | tarzeau | !DNS |
| 21:37.15 | Cruise | !dns |
| 21:37.17 | Maulkin | !dns |
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| 21:37.24 | kspath | !poop |
| 21:37.28 | tarzeau | heh |
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| 21:37.39 | redguy | yuck |
| 21:37.41 | kspath | !ns |
| 21:37.41 | dpkg | ns is probably Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Net. |
| 21:37.43 | A64 | deadcat: try using update-initramfs and tell me if it still works for you.. so I can know if it was that command which s**** my box or not |
| 21:37.52 | A64 | !dns |
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| 21:38.04 | tarzeau | dpkg ns is also Name Server (DNS, Unix) |
| 21:38.04 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 21:38.14 | tarzeau | dpkg ns is also National Standard |
| 21:38.14 | dpkg | tarzeau: okay |
| 21:38.25 | tarzeau | dpkg ns is also nanosecond |
| 21:38.25 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 21:38.27 | deadcat | A64: my kernels dont have initrd |
| 21:38.28 | stoned | dpkg ns is also National Socialism |
| 21:38.28 | dpkg | okay, stoned |
| 21:38.32 | JimMorrison | hey... is there a way to install ipt_route module on the kernel... without recompilling it ? |
| 21:38.37 | tarzeau | dpkg ns is also Natursekt |
| 21:38.37 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 21:38.41 | goombah234 | Anyone have experience with Serial ATA drives and sarge? |
| 21:38.42 | stoned | lol |
| 21:38.50 | A64 | deadcat: neither the default deb pack... but I still don-t get to make it work >S |
| 21:39.01 | stoned | goombah234, yes, use a 2.6 kernel |
| 21:39.02 | K|NgGh0sT | !ns |
| 21:39.02 | dpkg | from memory, ns is Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Net. Name Server (DNS, Unix). National Standard, or nanosecond. National Socialism. Natursekt |
| 21:39.04 | stoned | !sata |
| 21:39.04 | dpkg | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or use a 2.6 kernel for less pain, or you must enable CONFIG_SCSI_SATA and your SATA driver for this to work |
| 21:39.10 | stoned | goombah234, ^^ |
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| 21:39.35 | JimMorrison | !ipt |
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| 21:40.28 | sid | ip addr add 10.0.0.2/24 dev eth0 |
| 21:40.32 | goombah234 | dpkg: does that mean I need to compile the kernel with the driver: |
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| 21:40.37 | sid | What is the equivalent ifconfig command for that? |
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| 21:40.53 | stoned | goombah234, you should use a 2.6 series kernel with sarge for sata support |
| 21:41.26 | JimMorrison | and what should I do to get ipt modules on my kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 |
| 21:41.37 | JimMorrison | pleass |
| 21:41.37 | A64 | does anybody knows where the files sent to the KDE wastebin are___ |
| 21:41.46 | goombah234 | I have 2.6.15 with sata under etch. It can find the partition with the old 2.4 kernel, but not the 2.6.15. |
| 21:41.53 | stoned | A64, ~/.Trash |
| 21:41.54 | goombah234 | but sata is a module I think |
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| 21:42.01 | goombah234 | in 2.6.15 |
| 21:42.15 | Aconitic | hey i just downloaded kde, but i cant stopx to close xfce4 and switch |
| 21:42.19 | stoned | goombah234, its in the stock kernel afaik |
| 21:42.22 | Aconitic | how would i do that? |
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| 21:42.54 | goombah234 | ok, I'll dig into the config file. |
| 21:43.08 | stoned | Aconitic, ALT + CTRL + Backspace |
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| 21:43.59 | Aconitic | that just logs me out |
| 21:44.10 | Aconitic | i need to close xfce completely and load kde |
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| 21:44.18 | stoned | remove xfce then |
| 21:44.25 | Aconitic | i cant while its running |
| 21:44.28 | A64 | stoned: are you sure_ there-s no such dir named that way... I used root to send a modules dir to the wastebin... so where the * are those files_ |
| 21:44.39 | Aconitic | what is the config to make kde load at boot? |
| 21:45.08 | deadcat | Aconitic: depends what login manager you using. click around and set it to kde |
| 21:45.08 | stoned | well I use kde3.5 and have been and my trash goes there |
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| 21:45.20 | A64 | !tell Aconitic about kdm |
| 21:45.24 | stoned | tyou can try a more general link |
| 21:45.35 | stoned | go to konqueor and type trash:/ |
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| 21:45.50 | Aconitic | which ever came with xfce4 |
| 21:46.17 | A64 | stoned> err... I-m usikng knoppix *with twm( -cause my box doesn- want to boot, so I need to restore those files from here |
| 21:46.22 | goombah234 | stoned: it's in the kernel as a module: CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=m. |
| 21:46.30 | stoned | A64, #knoppix |
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| 21:46.54 | JordiGH | So, is it true? Someone died? Or is someone trolling? |
| 21:47.11 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 21:47.21 | A64 | stoned> no! my box is a debian etch... but I can NOT BOOT MY DAMMIT BOX!!!!! AND I HAVE NO idea why... and it seems like nobody knows what-s going on... |
| 21:47.21 | Mazingaro | please how can I create a user without passwd? |
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| 21:47.43 | JordiGH | Mazingaro: Just don't type anything when useradd prompts for a password. |
| 21:47.45 | deadcat | Mazingaro: useradd |
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| 21:47.53 | JordiGH | Mazingaro: Hit enter twice. |
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| 21:48.04 | Mazingaro | deadcat: I created it with KUser |
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| 21:48.13 | deadcat | Mazingaro: too bad. |
| 21:48.14 | Mazingaro | deadcat: and I've set no password |
| 21:48.16 | stoned | lol |
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| 21:48.35 | stoned | Mazingaro, how hard is going to konsole and typing useradd |
| 21:48.44 | secher | need a bit of advice: aspell or openoffice.org lang package for spellchecking? |
| 21:48.51 | secher | in oo.o |
| 21:48.51 | stoned | or su -c useradd or sudo useradd whatever |
| 21:48.55 | A64 | Aconitic: just inistall a *dm and then setup kde as the default desktop for the user and make sure the x server loads automatically |
| 21:48.56 | Mazingaro | stoned: ok, done! |
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| 21:49.03 | stoned | Mazingaro, word |
| 21:49.05 | goombah234 | hi A64, does the box have serial ata drives? |
| 21:49.17 | A64 | goombah234: no, IDE |
| 21:49.25 | A64 | s/IDE/just IDE |
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| 21:49.28 | JordiGH | secher: Doesn't OO.o use ispell anyways? |
| 21:49.41 | stoned | goombah234, boot with a 2.6 kernel in sarge, then fdisk -l and you'll see your sata drives |
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| 21:50.23 | secher | JordiGH: dunno.. that's why I'm asking I guess.. I don't have one and need to get one, but I don't know which is 'the best' /me waits for someome to !best at me |
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| 21:50.32 | Aconitic | a64, i already installed kde |
| 21:50.34 | goombah234 | stoned: it doesn't boot in 2.6, just says it can't find the root partition |
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| 21:50.39 | Aconitic | but it didnt give me an option for thast |
| 21:50.39 | Aconitic | that |
| 21:50.42 | JordiGH | Oh, right, I had that question too. I want newly created users to default to my favourite desktop environment. |
| 21:50.43 | stoned | goombah234, ahhh |
| 21:50.52 | JordiGH | What's the file to put into /etc/skel, then? |
| 21:51.24 | goombah234 | maybe it's something else and I don't understand the problem correctly |
| 21:51.28 | JordiGH | (Even better would have one of the desktop managers prompt users for what their favourite environment is, heh) |
| 21:51.38 | beardy | JordiGH: Why, your favourite may not be the new users favourite. |
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| 21:51.56 | A64 | Aconitic> do you have xdm or kdm_ |
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| 21:52.16 | beardy | JordiGH: What is your favourite then? |
| 21:52.16 | goombah234 | under 2.4 it boots, under 2.6.8 it used to boot. now under 2.6.15 it doesn't boot and neither does 2.6.8 |
| 21:52.27 | beardy | JordiGH: Just run gdm or kdm. |
| 21:52.28 | goombah234 | could it be udev? |
| 21:52.53 | stoned | you don't need a boot manager |
| 21:52.57 | stoned | doh |
| 21:53.02 | stoned | login manager |
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| 21:53.16 | stoned | use the following scripts, startxfce4, startkde |
| 21:53.17 | master_of_master | hi, how can I limit the number of processes per user? |
| 21:53.48 | beardy | stoned: And for gnome, wmaker, blackbox, *-window-manager? |
| 21:53.53 | JordiGH | beardy: But gdm or kdm already defaults to a particular desktop. I want a very visible inquiry. |
| 21:54.05 | stoned | beardy, use the handy dandy ~/.(dot files) |
| 21:54.20 | JordiGH | beardy: Most (l)users don't ever change a single configuration option. I want them to at least consciously make this very important choice. :) |
| 21:54.23 | Aconitic | xdm |
| 21:54.26 | Aconitic | i think |
| 21:54.30 | A64 | well... does anyvbody knows how can I get my box back__ it doesnt really matters me using which kernel... but I need to boot it..., |
| 21:54.49 | beardy | stoned: Does it sound to you like JordiGH's users know what a dotfile is, if they can't even select using the mouse in a menu? |
| 21:54.54 | A64 | Aconitic: and xdm isn-t loading after boot___ |
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| 21:55.04 | Aconitic | no it does load |
| 21:55.05 | judge | good night |
| 21:55.06 | Aconitic | i want kdm to load |
| 21:55.08 | eleftherios | I have received 2688 emails on my server (I run etch with exim4) with subject Mail Delivery Failed to addresses I have never sent email to...Any pointers please? |
| 21:55.11 | stoned | beardy, he wants to use kde instead of xfce, he doesn't need a DM, startkde script is fine |
| 21:55.31 | kspath | eleftherios: bounces? backscatter? #exim ? |
| 21:55.34 | Stevie | eleftherios: bounces from emails sent by spammers, who forged the sender to be your address |
| 21:55.44 | beardy | stoned: Doesn't KDE always take over as default as soon it is installed, or has that behavior changed? |
| 21:55.48 | Aconitic | with gnome on the login screen you can switch which de you want |
| 21:55.50 | A64 | Aconitic: then apt-get install kdm and then use dpkg-reconfigure kdm and choose kdm to be the *dm you want to use at boot |
| 21:55.54 | stoned | beardy, it should |
| 21:55.56 | Aconitic | i cant figure out how to do that on xfce |
| 21:56.00 | eleftherios | Stevie, so it is not something I should worry |
| 21:56.06 | beardy | stoned: It should what? |
| 21:56.10 | stoned | take over |
| 21:56.15 | beardy | stoned: Why? |
| 21:56.17 | stoned | in my experience it always has |
| 21:56.24 | JordiGH | I know users can pick. I *want* them to pick. I want them to realise that options and diversity is what GNU/Linux is all about. |
| 21:56.25 | JordiGH | :-) |
| 21:56.44 | JordiGH | (Although I admit I'll be forcing Debian down their throats. You don't mind, do you?) |
| 21:56.58 | thingfish | beardy: in sarge, if using tasksel you select Desktop Environment, it install both gnome and kde, with gdm being the default desktop manager and gnome being the default desktop. |
| 21:56.59 | beardy | JordiGH: You can send a mail to your new users and tell them where to click to select which window-manager/desktop they want to use. |
| 21:57.18 | JordiGH | beardy: I suppose that will have to do. I hope they know how to read. :-P |
| 21:57.19 | beardy | thingfish: I see. |
| 21:57.32 | abrotman | JordiGH: we could place bets ... |
| 21:57.41 | stoned | you can use kdm, at the login screen just go to the menu and select the window manager you want to use. all the installed ones will be in a list |
| 21:57.50 | stoned | or gdm for that matter |
| 21:57.56 | beardy | thingfish: (I don't like tasksel :) ) |
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| 21:58.13 | thingfish | beardy: well I personally don't use it anymore myself. |
| 21:58.17 | kspath | JordiGH: URLs with screenshots with step-by-step ? |
| 21:58.18 | Aconitic | thanks a64 i think that worked |
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| 21:58.27 | beardy | JordiGH: Yeah.. |
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| 21:58.54 | JordiGH | "What desktop/window manager defines me as a person?" |
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| 21:59.04 | kspath | JordiGH: ratpoison? |
| 21:59.04 | thingfish | beardy: but a lot of newbies do, and if they're hoping for kde, they'll have to sort of look for it. |
| 21:59.08 | JordiGH | kspath: Ah, of course. |
| 21:59.09 | beardy | JordiGH: Take screenshots and so on, and be a good nice admin. |
| 21:59.32 | stoned | lol |
| 21:59.36 | Mazingaro | please, I need to access from an irix client to a debian server via rsh, could anyone help me please? |
| 21:59.51 | beardy | Mazingaro: Why? |
| 21:59.57 | kspath | JordiGH: keep the brass knuckles on the other fist and in view |
| 22:00.01 | beardy | Mazingaro: Doesn't irix have ssh? |
| 22:00.01 | Mazingaro | beardy: system installation |
| 22:00.04 | intero | hi. do you know of a program which allows me to access my phone via bluetooth? |
| 22:00.11 | beardy | Mazingaro: You mean from Debian to Irix then? |
| 22:00.23 | Aconitic | ok no |
| 22:00.26 | A64 | Aconitic> np |
| 22:00.26 | Mazingaro | beardy: the irix shall install from the debian server |
| 22:00.31 | Aconitic | kdm is working but its still loading xfce |
| 22:00.42 | sdsdsd | how do i make MX point to an ip adress |
| 22:00.45 | Aconitic | it has all the kde programs though |
| 22:00.51 | kspath | sdsdsd: no |
| 22:00.52 | beardy | Mazingaro: Ah, now I understand, I've heard that it wants to do it that way yes.. |
| 22:00.52 | stoned | Aconitic, you have to select the WM in the menu of KDM login screen |
| 22:01.00 | kspath | sdsdsd: MX points to a hostname |
| 22:01.06 | beardy | Mazingaro: I remember other people asking about it. |
| 22:01.10 | A64 | Aconitic> if you don-t need xfce then just apt-get remove it... |
| 22:01.18 | kspath | sdsdsd: the hostname(s) point to IP addresses. |
| 22:01.18 | Mazingaro | beardy: I got this error from debian syslog |
| 22:01.34 | beardy | Mazingaro: IIRC there were some version conflicts or simillar? |
| 22:01.50 | Mazingaro | beardy: localhost in.rshd: Connection from root@INDIGO2 for guest |
| 22:01.52 | kspath | sdsdsd: Do research on DNS. |
| 22:02.01 | eleftherios | kspath, is there a way to stop these bounces? I dread the idea that so many people got spammed and my email address is in the email they received... |
| 22:02.09 | sdsdsd | kspath: But here the ip dosent have hostname |
| 22:02.27 | beardy | Mazingaro: Paste in a pastebin if it's more. /msg dpkg paste |
| 22:02.37 | sdsdsd | kspath: Should i ask them to setup reverse dns before setting up MX |
| 22:02.54 | Aconitic | ah damn ok |
| 22:02.55 | Aconitic | thanks |
| 22:03.08 | kspath | eleftherios: I do not know. Study. You can not stop spammers from forging your address. There are some technologies still in development that some pretend to use but there are no promises. |
| 22:03.10 | MatBoy | Mu CPU is with Xinerama on very high on 3 screens, with seperate desktops... damn fast ! |
| 22:03.11 | Aconitic | now is there something like mirc for debian? The console irc is kinda aggrivating |
| 22:03.17 | Mazingaro | beardy: only that |
| 22:03.17 | MatBoy | *mu=my |
| 22:03.25 | kspath | sdsdsd: Study DNS. |
| 22:03.33 | MatBoy | Aconitic, xchat ! |
| 22:03.35 | Mazingaro | beardy: I configured xinetd with shell and login files |
| 22:03.42 | beardy | Aconitic: apt-cache search irc |
| 22:04.01 | Mazingaro | beardy: at first installed rsh-redone-server |
| 22:04.04 | beardy | Aconitic: xchat, gaim, and so on, but consider using irssi-text, it's the best (opinion) |
| 22:04.35 | stoned | quick question. If you have an IDE and SATA drive in one machine. Which disk is addressed first? In my BIOS primary master #1 is IDE, while primary master #3 is sata. Are IDE drives addressed first by BIOS? Is there no priority of SATA2 over IDE? |
| 22:04.35 | Mazingaro | beardy: then created a guest account without password but with a home |
| 22:04.43 | JordiGH | Xchat, BitchX |
| 22:05.14 | eleftherios | kspath, thank you |
| 22:05.32 | JordiGH | Dude, if there's one thing we have, it's IRC clients. IRC started out in *nix. Accept no substitutes. :-) |
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| 22:06.02 | stoned | in this dual boot system, IDE disk == disk0 while sata == disk1. When I am booted under linux, its the other way around |
| 22:06.05 | stoned | I am very confused |
| 22:06.07 | eleftherios | Aconitic, I think Xchat is very close to what you are looking for |
| 22:06.13 | pipeline | JordiGH: IRC is, at heart, telnet. Chill the fuck out. |
| 22:06.18 | stoned | why is this configuration changing? |
| 22:06.44 | JordiGH | pipeline: And how old is telnet? |
| 22:06.48 | beardy | Mazingaro: Ok. I have no experience of installing Irix, or rsh, could you tell me more what is happening, or not happening? |
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| 22:07.25 | stoned | if I boot undre windows, disk0 == ide etc. while in linux dis0 == sata while ide == disk2. WHY! |
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| 22:07.52 | Shadowcat | stoned: that made no sense |
| 22:07.56 | Shadowcat | where is linux installed? |
| 22:07.57 | stoned | and I am not even changing bios settings, its what the software tells me |
| 22:08.00 | pipeline | JordiGH: As old as TCP/IP. |
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| 22:08.10 | stoned | Shadowcat, oh sorry allowe me to rephrase |
| 22:08.17 | Mazingaro | beardy: client (indigo2) answer with ERROR: Lost connection to 10.0.0.1 |
| 22:08.20 | pipeline | Mazingaro: IRIX installation from linux is not possible using etch or sid. |
| 22:08.28 | jimmorrison | anybody help me on ipt_ROUTE module ? |
| 22:08.33 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Something's wrong with reasonably-new versions of the rsh/rlogin/rcp daemons. |
| 22:08.35 | A64 | Aconitic> kopete is also a good solution, but for IRC I prefer gaim |
| 22:08.41 | *** part/#debian mhall (i=mhall@unaffiliated/mhall) |
| 22:08.49 | Mazingaro | pipeline: I dunno |
| 22:08.58 | kpanic | hi, it happens also to you that the latest vim in unstable doesn't honor anymore tab completion? |
| 22:08.58 | JordiGH | pipeline: So it's as old as Unix, right? |
| 22:09.01 | pipeline | Mazingaro: There's no "dunno" about it. It's definitely not possible. I've been there, recently. |
| 22:09.15 | pipeline | JordiGH: No. UNIX predates TCP/IP by quite a lot. UNIX wasn't even the first OS to have a decent TCP/IP implementation. |
| 22:09.30 | jimmorrison | !ipt_route |
| 22:09.40 | JordiGH | pipeline: Which was the first OS to achieve decency? |
| 22:09.41 | pipeline | Mazingaro: your best bet is to use a Solaris host. What's the target system? |
| 22:09.46 | pipeline | JordiGH: VMS, IIRC |
| 22:09.46 | beardy | !wayttd jimmorrison |
| 22:09.47 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, jimmorrison? |
| 22:09.53 | abrotman | stoned: modules get loaded in a different order |
| 22:09.59 | abrotman | stoned: s/modules/drivers/ |
| 22:10.06 | Mazingaro | pipeline: in server syslog there's "localhost in.rshd: Connection from root@INDIGO2 for guest" |
| 22:10.19 | jimmorrison | i have an old debian unstable with kernel 2.6.12-10-k7 |
| 22:10.26 | Mazingaro | pipeline: client is an indigo2 from the inst program |
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| 22:10.35 | jimmorrison | dunno exactly the debian version |
| 22:10.40 | pipeline | Mazingaro: IP22, IP26, IP28? |
| 22:10.42 | stoned | Shadowcat, PC has two disks. IDE == Primary Master#1. Sata == Primary Master#3. #2primary/secondary == cd/dvd. Windows installed on IDE, while Debian is on Sata. When I boot under windows, it tells me Disk0=IDE and Disk1=Sata. When I boot under Debian (BIOS settings are not touched), it tells me that SATA == disk1 while ide == disk2. If the bios isn't changed, then ide should still be primary master#1 which is disk0. This is what is |
| 22:10.43 | stoned | confusing me. |
| 22:10.44 | beardy | Mazingaro: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 22:10.46 | Mazingaro | pipeline: IP22 |
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| 22:10.53 | Mazingaro | beardy: unstable |
| 22:10.54 | pipeline | Mazingaro: If it's an IP22 or IP26, you'll need to do some TCP/IP stack tweaking, because the PROM is brain-damaged. |
| 22:11.01 | Mazingaro | pipeline: done |
| 22:11.06 | smoosh | hi, how can i see witch version of gcc is used for compile a (compiled) binary file? |
| 22:11.08 | jimmorrison | but i has no ipt_route to build |
| 22:11.10 | Mazingaro | pipeline: without it never boot |
| 22:11.18 | jimmorrison | the only way is to recompile a new kernel ? |
| 22:11.27 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Secondly, like I just told you, the commonly-used rsh packages on linux are totally brain-damaged. They won't work. Period. |
| 22:11.33 | beardy | smoosh: 'file somebinary' perhaps ? |
| 22:11.38 | pipeline | Mazingaro: You can boot off the linux system, but you'll have to install from somewhere else. |
| 22:11.40 | Mazingaro | pipeline: :( |
| 22:11.44 | Shadowcat | stoned: you don't seem to get it |
| 22:11.52 | Mazingaro | pipeline: nfs? |
| 22:11.55 | Shadowcat | you have debian installed on an SATA drive |
| 22:12.03 | stoned | oh sorry, in the booting under debian, it tells me ide == disk1 while sata == disk0 |
| 22:12.03 | Shadowcat | stoned: hence that drive is always gonna be /dev/sda1 |
| 22:12.05 | stoned | sorry correction |
| 22:12.09 | pipeline | Mazingaro: My suggestion to you is that you set up Solaris x86 or FreeBSD/i386 inside a VMware system, NFS mount the IRIX discs, then share the IRIX discs over rsh on the Solaris system... |
| 22:12.10 | smoosh | beardy: no, it don't tell me what i need... |
| 22:12.13 | Shadowcat | it's that simple |
| 22:12.18 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: not necessarily; it depends on which kernel you're using. |
| 22:12.19 | Shadowcat | the grub boot files are on that hd |
| 22:12.27 | pipeline | Mazingaro: The reason that IRIX uses rsh for installation rather than NFS is that you can re-export NFS mounts over RSH :) |
| 22:12.29 | Shadowcat | dondelelcaro: hmm enlighten me |
| 22:12.41 | stoned | Shadowcat, so I am guessing its windows that is fucking up |
| 22:12.48 | Shadowcat | no, they're both right |
| 22:12.49 | stoned | I know it will always be /dev/sda |
| 22:12.51 | Shadowcat | from their standpoint |
| 22:12.53 | Mazingaro | pipeline: gotta an ULTRA5 here! |
| 22:12.54 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: 2.6.12 and earlier (iirc, definetly 2.6.8) has it as /dev/hda1 et al. |
| 22:12.59 | stoned | then why is the disk# changed |
| 22:13.05 | pipeline | Mazingaro: I'm pretty sure you can't boot off of a Solaris system running in VMware Server, due to brain damage in the VMware ethernet |
| 22:13.09 | Shadowcat | windows doesn't map devices in the same way Linux does |
| 22:13.14 | Shadowcat | in windows IDE comes before SATA |
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| 22:13.23 | Shadowcat | in linux, as dondelelcaro said, it depends on the kernel |
| 22:13.25 | stoned | Shadowcat, ohh |
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| 22:13.33 | stoned | see that explains it |
| 22:13.33 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Heh. Ultra5's are nasty, sick pieces of machinery. If it already has Solaris on it, well, go for it, but don't bother loading Solaris onto such a crappy machine if you're going to have to do a fresh install :P |
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| 22:13.37 | Shadowcat | so no one's wrong, they're both right |
| 22:13.37 | stoned | so it IS windows thats fucking up |
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| 22:13.41 | stoned | oyh |
| 22:13.43 | stoned | ok then |
| 22:13.48 | Shadowcat | stoned: no, READ what I said |
| 22:13.50 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Are you sure your I2 has no CD-ROM drive? :P |
| 22:13.51 | stoned | confusion settled |
| 22:14.02 | Mazingaro | pipeline: sure I am |
| 22:14.04 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: eh .. 2.6.8 uses it as dev/sda |
| 22:14.09 | Mazingaro | pipeline: what do you think? |
| 22:14.10 | Shadowcat | actually in Linux ide comes before SCSI as well |
| 22:14.22 | stoned | Shadowcat, yes I said ok for fucks sake |
| 22:14.22 | Mazingaro | pipeline: ULTRA5 has got solaris 10 and run just fine |
| 22:14.23 | stoned | I got it |
| 22:14.24 | pipeline | Mazingaro: well, given that installing IRIX is a nightmare either way, I assumed you had gone with net-install for convenience. |
| 22:14.25 | Shadowcat | /dev/hda comes before /dev/sda |
| 22:14.28 | stoned | Thank you |
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| 22:14.29 | stoned | :) |
| 22:14.36 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Heh, well, use the Ultra 5 to host the install discs, then. |
| 22:14.37 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: perhaps it depends on the controller .. but i've got a sarge box that is all SATA .. and it's calling them sd* |
| 22:14.37 | Mazingaro | pipeline: no CDROM at all |
| 22:14.40 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: not in the cards that I was looking at. [or perhaps that was 2.4?] |
| 22:14.52 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: 2.4 definitely called it hd* |
| 22:14.58 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: what kernel you using on the pbook right now? |
| 22:15.01 | beardy | Mazingaro: Is it impossible to connect one to such a machine? |
| 22:15.07 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Add a "guest" user, put an "~guest/.rhosts" that specifies the IRIX system's hostname and "root", then add the IRIX system's hostname to /etc/ethers, /etc/hosts, and /etc/hosts.equiv |
| 22:15.07 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: yeah, I thought the crossover happend at the libata time |
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| 22:15.18 | pipeline | Mazingaro: In a nutshell, you have to totally fucking disable rsh security. |
| 22:15.22 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: which I seem to remember being after 2.6.8... although, it's probably driver dependent. |
| 22:15.27 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: it might have been earlier in the 2.6 series .. but i don't have any 2.6.[0-7] .. so i can't say |
| 22:15.46 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: or may be chipset dependant |
| 22:15.48 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Oh, and you may have to do a "from guest@solaris-ip-address:/path/path/path" in inst |
| 22:15.48 | Mazingaro | pipeline: but I've to put on a tftp boot on solaris? |
| 22:16.08 | Mazingaro | pipeline: I know, I know :) |
| 22:16.11 | Shadowcat | either way |
| 22:16.16 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: I just remember upgrading a sarge box on 2.6.8 (T42 iirc) to > 2.6.8 required changing the fstab |
| 22:16.18 | pipeline | Mazingaro: You don't have to put the TFTP boot on Solaris. That should work fine on Linux. The actual installation part, where you do the rsh wizardry, absolutely, positively has to be on Solaris or IRIX or something with a sane rlogin / rsh |
| 22:16.26 | stoned | Shadowcat, ok so wait a minute. If /dev/hda comes before /dev/sda then sda == disk1 while hda == disk0. But, this is what windows tells me, not debian. Debian tells me hda(ide) == disk1, while sda = disk0 |
| 22:16.38 | pipeline | Mazingaro: I hate admitting that Debian is occasionally not the best system on x86 :( |
| 22:16.39 | Mazingaro | pipeline: shall I install rsh on solaris? |
| 22:16.45 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: odd .. i thought all controllers switched at the same time .. but perhaps not |
| 22:16.48 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Solaris comes with rsh installed but disabled by default. |
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| 22:16.51 | Shadowcat | stoned: linux cannot tell you that since that's NOT a linux concept |
| 22:16.58 | Mazingaro | pipeline: I could use also a fedora core 5 to do tha |
| 22:17.02 | Shadowcat | linux doesn't have a concept of disk0, disk1 |
| 22:17.08 | stoned | Shadowcat, fdisk -l shows drives in order no? |
| 22:17.10 | Mazingaro | pipeline: ok, svcadm?? |
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| 22:17.15 | Shadowcat | stoned: NO |
| 22:17.20 | stoned | ohhh |
| 22:17.25 | stoned | neverfuckingmind then |
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| 22:17.53 | pipeline | Mazingaro: it might actually be inetadm. I can't remember :\ |
| 22:17.54 | Shadowcat | grub has a concept of hd0, hd1, hd2, etc |
| 22:17.57 | Shadowcat | linux doesn't |
| 22:18.01 | pipeline | Mazingaro: the service you're looking for is rlogin, at any rate |
| 22:18.07 | stoned | I see |
| 22:18.14 | Mazingaro | pipeline: ok, stay tuned and thanks |
| 22:18.27 | Shadowcat | you can put your root fs on /dev/sdz1 for all linux cares |
| 22:18.39 | pipeline | Mazingaro: Ahah: inetadm -e network/login:rlogin |
| 22:18.41 | Shadowcat | as long as you have the right root= line |
| 22:18.55 | pipeline | Mazingaro: at any rate, I'll be on and off of IRC for the next four hours or so. Feel free to priv-msg me about IRIX installation. |
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| 22:19.13 | Mazingaro | ok |
| 22:19.25 | Aconitic | i need help setting up java |
| 22:19.32 | Aconitic | i tried free-java-sdk |
| 22:19.38 | Mazingaro | pipeline: I'm going to do it right now |
| 22:19.39 | Shadowcat | !tell Aconitic about java one-liner |
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| 22:19.44 | Aconitic | but azureus still wont load |
| 22:20.02 | stoned | Shadowcat, fdisk -l shows the ide drive first, then the sata drive. that isn't in order? and if /dev/hda comes before /dev/sda then how exactly can't linux tell me that |
| 22:20.33 | dondelelcaro | stoned: I'm a bit confused here... why do you care what the order is? |
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| 22:20.35 | Aconitic | the download is down on sun's site |
| 22:20.52 | stoned | dondelelcaro, I don't, I am also confused and I was trying to find out why it was so |
| 22:20.59 | stoned | maybe I am thinking too much |
| 22:21.02 | Shadowcat | I already TOLD YOU |
| 22:21.10 | Shadowcat | linux has no concept of disk orders |
| 22:21.26 | Shadowcat | XP has a weird numbering system that I stopped trying to work out a long time ago |
| 22:21.35 | Shadowcat | it works, leave it alone |
| 22:21.43 | stoned | Shadowcat, not everyone is as bright as you, give it time to sink in, losing your patience won't accomplish much |
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| 22:21.59 | Shadowcat | stoned: this is the third or forth time I told you this |
| 22:22.22 | stoned | Shadowcat, you are repeating the same thing as I am a moron incapable of understaning |
| 22:22.29 | stoned | as if* |
| 22:22.45 | Shadowcat | stoned: well you seem not to be getting it |
| 22:23.10 | stoned | I am merely trying to fully clarify what you said, and asking in detail about something you told me isn't NOT gettin git |
| 22:23.35 | Shadowcat | stoned: ok then read what I typed again, and again until you get it |
| 22:23.48 | stoned | Shadowcat, thats all its gonna take dude, just relax :) |
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| 22:24.32 | WorldBFree | is there a tetrinet or blocktrix client for debian? |
| 22:24.52 | deadcat | WorldBFree: yes. apt-cache search |
| 22:25.10 | Shadowcat | eeek deadcat's here |
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| 22:25.12 | Shadowcat | everybody hide |
| 22:25.33 | deadcat | am i it? |
| 22:25.34 | pipeline | WorldBFree: gtetrinet .. |
| 22:25.45 | stoned | IT was cool |
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| 22:26.17 | WorldBFree | deadcat: thank |
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| 22:26.29 | stoned | it is the word that the former knights of neeh cannot hear |
| 22:26.33 | stoned | hehe |
| 22:26.46 | i3mdaster | is there a way to let GNOME NOT loading metacity but openbox? |
| 22:26.59 | deadcat | i3mdaster: of course |
| 22:27.06 | i3mdaster | deadcat, ok. tell me |
| 22:27.18 | deadcat | i3mdaster: i dont use gnome. only openbox |
| 22:27.27 | WorldBFree | ok this is going to sound really stupid but im very new to linux. i did apt-get install gtetrinet where did this install to? |
| 22:27.31 | stoned | deadcat, I thought you were on xfce4.3 |
| 22:27.37 | deadcat | i3mdaster: but click around it should show something |
| 22:27.42 | i3mdaster | deadcat, but every time you start up gnome, it auto loads metacity |
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| 22:27.46 | Aconitic | where can i get contrib packages? |
| 22:27.52 | basbrya1 | WorldBFree: which gtetrinet? |
| 22:27.54 | stoned | er.. 4.2.3 |
| 22:28.03 | deadcat | stoned: nah. i tried xfce4 when it first came out.. like for 2 weeks. openbox fits me more |
| 22:28.04 | magyar | is there a way to setup pppoe, to send an email with the new ip address? |
| 22:28.05 | stoned | or 4.4 beta, thunar is nice |
| 22:28.15 | stoned | deadcat, i know what you mean |
| 22:28.27 | MatBoy | What do I have to disable (module) in xorg.conf to disable the 3D acceleration ? |
| 22:28.28 | deadcat | magyar: maybe with cron or so |
| 22:28.41 | WorldBFree | basbryal: nevermind i found it, also is 0.7.9 the latest version |
| 22:28.55 | deadcat | magyar: dont install the driver for 3d.. which should be default |
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| 22:29.11 | pato_ | hello |
| 22:29.19 | pato_ | Or good afternoon good night for some, somebody podrias to help me with reverse of bind, I administer dns, but the dominion does not want to me to solve when putting host IP: ( |
| 22:29.42 | MatBoy | deadcat, the driver ? is it not possible to just don't load it ? |
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| 22:30.06 | deadcat | MatBoy: default DONT freakin have 3d support. what driver did you installed? what card you using? |
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| 22:30.49 | MatBoy | deadcat, I have problems with a slow Xinerama setup on 3 screens, but it's faster with 3 seperate desktops and also with 2 screens in Xinerama |
| 22:31.05 | MatBoy | deadcat, I believe it;s something with 3D |
| 22:31.17 | MatBoy | deadcat, I'm using a 6600LE and FX5200 |
| 22:31.40 | magyar | deadcat: i wont, sure it will help my pppoe ? :) |
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| 22:32.00 | deadcat | magyar: Option "RenderAccel" "1" |
| 22:32.04 | deadcat | set that to 0 |
| 22:32.14 | deadcat | MatBoy: ^^ |
| 22:32.22 | magyar | deadcat: -_- |
| 22:32.41 | MatBoy | deadcat, for every device, I mean head on the card ? |
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| 22:33.11 | pitbull_1 | holas |
| 22:33.15 | pitbull_1 | hi |
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| 22:33.21 | deadcat | MatBoy: i guess so. i only have 2 monitors for my nvidia card. dont konw anything about 3 |
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| 22:34.03 | MatBoy | deadcat, oK that's a very good idea ! But it won't affect my desktop-look ? |
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| 22:34.51 | dave007 | Hi, I believe I have a problem with X, I've just installed debian (unstable), and when I try to run a program that uses ncurses (aumix, bitchx, mc, dialog, etc, etc) I get either an entire black screen or all the colors are black, does anyone know what could be wrong? |
| 22:35.08 | dave007 | When in console, everthing works fine |
| 22:35.36 | MatBoy | dave007, |
| 22:35.43 | MatBoy | dave007, Matroc-card ? |
| 22:35.47 | MatBoy | Matrox |
| 22:36.15 | dave007 | no, intel, I've used the same xorg.conf file for a very long time without any trouble |
| 22:36.27 | Shadowcat | dave007: READ The topic |
| 22:36.31 | deadcat | dave007: maybe its a 7.0 xorg bug. |
| 22:36.39 | Shadowcat | deadcat: more like most likely |
| 22:36.45 | deadcat | (= |
| 22:37.02 | MatBoy | dave007, I had the same with a Matrox card... damn... just in the KLIKO :D |
| 22:37.10 | deadcat | all my xorg 7 problems are fixed now... |
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| 22:37.40 | dave007 | why is debian having so much trouble with version 7? |
| 22:37.50 | deadcat | dave007: because its UNSTABLE!!! |
| 22:37.51 | jlaw | i had no troubles ^^ |
| 22:37.55 | Shadowcat | !tell dave007 about unstable |
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| 22:38.15 | dondelelcaro | dave007: because it's now almost completely modularized, and some of the chnages in the packaging to do that have made things slightly more unstable than usual. |
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| 22:38.38 | Shadowcat | slightly? more like mega broken |
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| 22:38.41 | dondelelcaro | dave007: you have to remember that we're not only supporting a new version, but an upgrade path between them, and also supporting a much larger number of architectures than upstream supports. |
| 22:38.58 | Shadowcat | but if you're running sid you should be able to fix most of that on your own |
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| 22:39.04 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: it works fine here; there are bugs, but that's to be expected. |
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| 22:39.26 | dave007 | yeah |
| 22:39.40 | Shadowcat | dondelelcaro: ya I've filed half a dozen |
| 22:40.04 | Shadowcat | gravity must be striking me off his christmas list as we speak :) |
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| 22:40.12 | Phated | Heh. |
| 22:40.24 | Nazcafan | hi, I'm running etch, I did an update today and now I only have a single font when using fluxbox |
| 22:40.38 | dondelelcaro | if you don't like those problems, pitch in and help. I know the XSF can use patches and assistance |
| 22:40.43 | deadcat | Nazcafan: how can you tell you only have single font? |
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| 22:41.02 | Nazcafan | deadcat: now everything is displayed with the same font |
| 22:41.05 | Spark | how can i convert a .bin/.cue image format into .iso in debian? |
| 22:41.07 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: you reg for linuxworld yet? |
| 22:41.15 | deadcat | Spark: mv |
| 22:41.17 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: still working out the booth maddnes |
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| 22:41.21 | Shadowcat | dondelelcaro: I'm nowhere near well versed enough in the coding practices of XOrg to be productive |
| 22:41.31 | Spark | deadcat: mount claims its not an iso9660 filesystem, does that mean its corrupted? |
| 22:41.31 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ah.. same volunteers? |
| 22:41.32 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: you can learn... |
| 22:41.37 | Shadowcat | nor do I understand the code well enough |
| 22:41.46 | Shadowcat | dondelelcaro: I'm still working on my calendar project |
| 22:41.49 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: probably, assuming we can actually get a booth |
| 22:41.50 | deadcat | Spark: i dont know anything about .bin/.cue. i just mplayer blah.bin |
| 22:42.06 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: damn... that tricky eh? |
| 22:42.12 | Nazcafan | deadcat: the fluxbox theme I have uses more fonts |
| 22:42.36 | dondelelcaro | !tell Spark -about bin-cue |
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| 22:42.52 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah, the organizers are being a little bit annoying |
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| 22:44.02 | dave007 | is there a file called colors.txt? |
| 22:44.09 | dondelelcaro | !+find colors.txt |
| 22:44.10 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 22:44.18 | magyar | looking for the command name that will open a new session within ssh session |
| 22:44.18 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'colors.txt' (5 of 9): (/usr/lib/dx/lib/colors.txt) in science/dx ;; (/usr/share/doc/libplot-dev/colors.txt.gz) in libdevel/libplot-dev ;; (/usr/share/doc/bitchx/documentation/mirc-colors.txt) in net/bitchx ;; (/usr/share/games/gearhead/GameData/sdl_colors.txt) in games/gearhead-data ;; (/usr/share/gnu-smalltalk/blox-tk/colors.txt) in interpreters/gnu-smalltalk. |
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| 22:44.31 | dondelelcaro | !tell dave007 -about pdo |
| 22:44.39 | deadcat | i just ran baytobreakers on sunday in san fran.. damn so many people... |
| 22:45.36 | magyar | screen, never mind |
| 22:46.13 | magyar | no its not screen :( |
| 22:46.16 | magyar | shiat |
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| 22:46.38 | xomhau | hi all |
| 22:46.41 | stoned | Shiat? |
| 22:46.45 | stoned | like the muslim sect? |
| 22:46.50 | Spark | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 22:46.55 | magyar | -_- |
| 22:47.01 | magyar | looking for the command name that will open a new session within ssh session |
| 22:47.05 | deadcat | stoned: no. thats shit with the black attitude (= |
| 22:47.13 | stoned | oh |
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| 22:47.16 | stoned | haha |
| 22:47.19 | stoned | silly me |
| 22:47.39 | magyar | anyone? |
| 22:47.40 | Nosf3ratu | bueller? |
| 22:47.58 | xomhau | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 384 2006-05-26 02:46 gooooo.pl < why i can removed this file by normal user? :( |
| 22:48.13 | Dwonis | xomhau: who owns the directory? |
| 22:48.40 | xomhau | Dwonis: this file in my home ? |
| 22:48.41 | xomhau | Dwonis: this file in my home |
| 22:48.52 | deadcat | exactly |
| 22:49.11 | Dwonis | xomhau: anyone who has write access to a directory can delete files in it, with the exception of /tmp (because it has the "sticky bit" set) |
| 22:49.11 | magyar | how can i run a command in ssh and when i logout it keeps running? |
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| 22:49.49 | xomhau | Dwonis: oh thank you |
| 22:49.51 | deadcat | magyar: screen |
| 22:49.54 | watchdog440 | magyar use screen |
| 22:50.12 | magyar | bash: screen: command not found |
| 22:50.17 | deadcat | freakin install it |
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| 22:50.29 | watchdog440 | :) |
| 22:50.31 | green_earz | magyar: http://www.hn2.org/docs/tbg/screen.html |
| 22:50.37 | xomhau | i thing normal user can't delete root's file |
| 22:51.26 | magyar | dpkg -l "*screen*" No packages found matching *screen*. |
| 22:51.26 | dpkg | No packages found matching "*screen*" No packages found matching *screen*. |
| 22:51.53 | xomhau | s/thing/think |
| 22:51.56 | xomhau | :D |
| 22:52.29 | vulture | mayso you don't have it installed yet.. install it. |
| 22:52.40 | deadcat | magyar: freaking package is screen. just apt-get install screen |
| 22:52.49 | deadcat | dammit stop trying to be fancy... |
| 22:52.50 | vulture | dpkg -l just searches installed packages.. |
| 22:52.51 | dpkg | No packages found matching just searches installed packages.. |
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| 22:54.04 | kimo | Hi, does anyone know if wget can multi-connect to a server, a la 'Download accelerator' Yuck .. ? |
| 22:54.27 | revslowmo | I am currently running unstable, and someone once told me it is bad to run dist-upgrade is this true? |
| 22:54.39 | deadcat | fuck. goddamn kernel pacnic with the freakin VFS: unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0) AGAIN!!! |
| 22:54.46 | deadcat | revslowmo: yes |
| 22:54.55 | revslowmo | deadcat: Why is that? |
| 22:55.07 | deadcat | revslowmo: i recommend apt-get upgrade, then install the holded package one at a time. |
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| 22:55.39 | revslowmo | deadcat: Why would a pkg be held back? |
| 22:55.53 | deadcat | revslowmo: dependenciy problems. broken packages |
| 22:56.04 | deadcat | revslowmo: theres a reason its called unstable |
| 22:56.08 | Aconitic | i downloaded the java and azureus binaries from sourceforge, but im not sure where to install them |
| 22:56.20 | deadcat | Aconitic: anywhere you like |
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| 22:56.48 | revslowmo | deadcat: unstable means the pkgs change, experimental is where depdenices should be worked out in my opinon. |
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| 22:57.07 | deadcat | revslowmo: well. your opinion doesnt count |
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| 22:58.11 | revslowmo | deadcat: So your saying that in a community built OS a opinoin doesnt count? thats a tad off the mark |
| 22:58.25 | deadcat | revslowmo: no. just yours. |
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| 22:59.13 | Dwonis | xomhau: It's nice that you think that, but like I just told you, that's not how it works. Put the file in another directory (say, in a subdirectory of /usr/local) if you don't want the user to be able to delete the file |
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| 23:00.45 | Ugly_Duck | how do i work out whether my sound card is hw 2,0 or 1,0 etc? for my .asound? |
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| 23:01.27 | dli | Ugly_Duck, cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 23:01.33 | Kyral | Anyone know a thing or two about Postfix? |
| 23:02.01 | Ugly_Duck | 1 [CK8S ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK8S |
| 23:02.01 | Ugly_Duck | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:02.17 | Ugly_Duck | that would make it hw:1,0 ? or hw:0,1 |
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| 23:02.57 | streuner | Kyral: #postfix? |
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| 23:03.06 | Kyral | lol I sould have known |
| 23:03.31 | azeem | Kyral: well, ask specific questions and maybe somebody can help |
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| 23:04.50 | xomhau | normal user can list dir /root ? |
| 23:05.07 | dli | xomhau, no |
| 23:05.17 | xomhau | dli: why i can ?:( |
| 23:05.25 | Kyral | anyway, is there a way to increase the max attachment size in Postfix? |
| 23:05.27 | azeem | they can by default |
| 23:05.29 | streuner | xomhau: login as normal user and run 'ls -l /root/' ;-) |
| 23:05.40 | dli | xomhau, chmod -R 700 /root |
| 23:05.46 | streuner | Kyral: yes |
| 23:05.52 | xomhau | after i run apt-get dist-upgrade , then i can do that |
| 23:05.54 | Ugly_Duck | dli: any idea? |
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| 23:06.02 | streuner | Kyral: postfix.org has a search engine... |
| 23:06.11 | Kyral | Sorry |
| 23:06.11 | dli | Ugly_Duck, that's card1, hw 1 |
| 23:06.18 | Kyral | I'm tired and IRC was the window closest :P |
| 23:06.21 | Ugly_Duck | dli: thanks |
| 23:06.50 | xomhau | streuner: dli after i run apt-get dist-upgrade , then i can do that |
| 23:06.56 | xomhau | :( |
| 23:07.15 | dli | xomhau, doesn't matter, if you don't like it, chmod |
| 23:08.06 | azeem | I don't think you need to recursively chmod, btw |
| 23:08.07 | xomhau | dli: thank you |
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| 23:12.31 | dooglus | I used "apt-get source -b <pkg>" to download, extract, configure, make and package a tarfile. |
| 23:12.42 | dooglus | It worked, but I ran out of disk space during the packaging. |
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| 23:12.58 | dooglus | What command can I run to just package up the binaries it built? I don't want to go through the whole build again. |
| 23:12.58 | dli | dooglus, how #debian can help? |
| 23:13.23 | dooglus | dli: I'm not sure if it can, but hopefully somebody knows the answer to my question. |
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| 23:15.06 | azeem | dooglus: run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -nc in the build dir |
| 23:15.11 | azeem | dooglus: the -nc is the important part here |
| 23:15.23 | clarity_ | hey, I have an intel 10/100 network card... I tried using the "modprobe e100" driver but it wouldn't load.. it said I need to specify the irq's or something |
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| 23:15.28 | clarity_ | does anyone know how I could do that? |
| 23:15.40 | dooglus | azeem: thanks! |
| 23:15.42 | azeem | clarity_: is this an ISA card? |
| 23:15.51 | clarity_ | nope pci I believe |
| 23:15.57 | clarity_ | it's in a new laptop |
| 23:16.10 | azeem | clarity_: then it should get automatically detected IMHO |
| 23:16.27 | azeem | dmesg | grep eth0 doesn't show anything? |
| 23:16.32 | dli | azeem, maybe, it's e1000 |
| 23:16.35 | dooglus | azeem: -nc means "no clean" I see - it won't delete the objects. however, will it run 'configure' again, generating a new config.h, which everything depends on, and causing a total rebuild? |
| 23:16.38 | clarity_ | nope |
| 23:16.44 | clarity_ | hrm it's possible |
| 23:16.48 | azeem | dooglus: that depends on the package |
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| 23:16.55 | dooglus | azeem: it's mozilla-thunderbird |
| 23:16.55 | clarity_ | the specs for the laptop said "10/100 or 1000" |
| 23:17.03 | clarity_ | I thought I got the 10/100 |
| 23:17.04 | azeem | clarity_: check lspci |
| 23:17.17 | azeem | dooglus: you will have to inspect debian/rules to see whether it does that or not |
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| 23:17.35 | avium | does anyone here use dotdeb? |
| 23:17.40 | dooglus | azeem: it runs configure, sure |
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| 23:17.56 | dooglus | azeem: I'm trying to find a command that will just package, without building first. |
| 23:18.02 | azeem | dooglus: the question is whether it reruns |
| 23:18.03 | stew | avium: there is little reason too, since backports.org has php5 packages |
| 23:18.08 | clarity_ | yah it says: |
| 23:18.12 | dooglus | azeem: I see. I'll take a look |
| 23:18.19 | azeem | dooglus: you can invoke dpkg-deb yourself of course |
| 23:18.22 | avium | stew, i was having trouble getting that working with postgresql |
| 23:18.34 | avium | actually, i'm having trouble getting anything working with postgresql |
| 23:18.36 | clarity_ | 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 109a |
| 23:18.47 | azeem | clarity_: are you running sarge? |
| 23:18.56 | dli | clarity_, whatever, try " modprobe e1000" |
| 23:18.57 | clarity_ | yup |
| 23:19.00 | dooglus | azeem: the makefile dependency is "build-dir/mozilla/config.status: build-dir/mozilla/configure |
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| 23:19.18 | avium | i install php5-pgsql ... and i still get the "Call to undefined function pg_connect()" error |
| 23:19.21 | clarity_ | okay I just did |
| 23:19.21 | avium | it's pretty annoying :( |
| 23:19.21 | azeem | dooglus: sorry, I don't have time to debug something as big as thunderbird now |
| 23:19.23 | dooglus | " - so it looks like it's fine. it won't re-run configure so long as the config.status is newer than the configure script |
| 23:19.31 | dooglus | azeem: I'm not asking you to. |
| 23:19.32 | clarity_ | it said "init_module: No such device |
| 23:19.38 | azeem | dooglus: just try then :) |
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| 23:19.58 | dooglus | azeem: it took about 3 hours to build. I'm hoping to get it right first time to avoid another 3 hour wait. |
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| 23:20.04 | clarity_ | then it said he insmod failed... |
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| 23:20.20 | dooglus | azeem: also, I'm hoping to learn a bit more about building debian packages in the process. |
| 23:20.38 | dooglus | azeem: so I'll follow up your "invoke dpkg-deb yourself" lead as well |
| 23:21.06 | dli | clarity_, from google, desc: "Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller", it's e1000 |
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| 23:21.35 | clarity_ | hrm |
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| 23:22.27 | dli | clarity_, don't know what's wrong with debian kernel, if you can, build a newer kernel |
| 23:22.53 | avium | if i want to install a particular package from a particular source, and i already have the same package installed from a different source, is there anything i should know? |
| 23:23.04 | clarity_ | so you think it's the kernel that's the problem? |
| 23:23.05 | clarity_ | bummer. |
| 23:23.09 | clarity_ | I hate rebuilding kernels... |
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| 23:24.48 | mond00 | i second that. |
| 23:25.10 | mond00 | some free Unices discourage it. |
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| 23:25.16 | mond00 | monolithic > modular (?) |
| 23:25.21 | HoNgOuRu | con cada cambio en el smb.conf tengo que volver a levantar samba? |
| 23:25.27 | pipeline | clarity_: I haven't built a kernel in pushing two years :) |
| 23:25.31 | pipeline | HoNgOuRu: #debian-es |
| 23:25.37 | pipeline | HoNgOuRu: This is the english channel. |
| 23:25.40 | pipeline | HoNgOuRu: English only, bud. |
| 23:25.56 | dvs | Is anyone else having trouble with gaim in etch? My login seems to freeze the program. |
| 23:26.40 | clarity_ | yah |
| 23:26.42 | clarity_ | me neither |
| 23:26.45 | clarity_ | well 5 I think |
| 23:26.46 | samuel | is there anything i need to do for gnomebaker and nautilus-cd-burner to work from a normal user? |
| 23:26.46 | azeem | clarity_: what does uname -a say? |
| 23:26.56 | clarity_ | Linux debian 2.4.27-2-686-smp #1 SMP Wed Aug 17 10:05:21 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:26.57 | clarity_ | that. |
| 23:27.05 | azeem | samuel: you might need to set cdrecord +s |
| 23:27.10 | clarity_ | 2.6.8 hung up my machine |
| 23:27.11 | azeem | clarity_: did you try the 2.6 kernel? |
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| 23:27.15 | azeem | ah |
| 23:27.17 | clarity_ | yah... it wouldn't boot |
| 23:27.24 | thingfish | samuel: all I had to do was aptitude install gnomebaker, I can burn as user fine. |
| 23:27.36 | HoNgOuRu | sorry |
| 23:28.03 | HoNgOuRu | everytime I change smb.conf do I have to restart smbd ? |
| 23:28.05 | samuel | hmmm |
| 23:28.19 | dli | clarity_, I think e1000 is 2.4 starting 2.4.19 |
| 23:28.48 | dooglus | HoNgOuRu: no, only if you want your changes to take effect. |
| 23:29.00 | azeem | dooglus: eh. |
| 23:29.19 | HoNgOuRu | hoho...of course |
| 23:29.25 | HoNgOuRu | thanx |
| 23:29.26 | dooglus | azeem: what usually runs dpkg-deb? |
| 23:29.34 | antibular | HoNgOuRu: the man page for smbd say they a polled every minute. |
| 23:29.39 | azeem | dli: well, his lspci doesn't seem to know the pciid, so maybe that particular model didn't get supported until later |
| 23:29.46 | azeem | dooglus: dh_builddeb I think |
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| 23:30.08 | HoNgOuRu | ok |
| 23:30.44 | HoNgOuRu | thanx, how do I configure it for a LAN to let others pcs enter my shared directories without a prompt? |
| 23:30.53 | dli | azeem, I suggested him to try a newer kernel already :( it's a new laptop, and kernel issue, no other better choice |
| 23:30.57 | dooglus | azeem: do you know of a document that will tell me about all this? |
| 23:31.31 | azeem | dooglus: not really, it is generally not assumed one runs the low-level dpkg tools oneself, but rather uses debhelper |
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| 23:36.07 | antibular | HoNgOuRu: in you smb.conf you want "SECURITY = SHARE" |
| 23:36.23 | antibular | HoNgOuRu: read more about it here: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html#SECURITY |
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| 23:37.37 | clarity_ | what do you guys think... compile my own 2.6.16 or try to .deb? |
| 23:38.14 | dondelelcaro | clarity_: up to you, but if you compile your own, you should use make-kpkg |
| 23:38.54 | clarity_ | can I pick which kernel I use at boot w/ the package? |
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| 23:39.19 | masterblaster | try to .deb. |
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| 23:39.33 | Naz__ | hello |
| 23:39.45 | Naz__ | I think this is both a debian and colinux problem |
| 23:40.01 | Naz__ | ok, I just installed colinux on windows XP |
| 23:40.10 | Naz__ | and on another partition, debian sarge |
| 23:40.23 | Naz__ | I boot up colinux, and windows xp turns off |
| 23:40.34 | Naz__ | I tryed it with woody |
| 23:40.36 | streuner | !colinux |
| 23:40.36 | dpkg | i guess colinux is http://colinux.org/. Cooperative Linux is the first working free and open source method for optimally running Linux on Microsoft Windows natively. More generally, Cooperative Linux (short-named coLinux) is a port of the Linux kernel that allows it to run cooperatively alongside another operating system on a single machine. For instance, it allows one to freely run Linux on Windows 2000/XP, without using a commercial PC ... |
| 23:40.41 | Naz__ | and it worked fine |
| 23:41.01 | Naz__ | uh |
| 23:41.05 | Naz__ | I know that... |
| 23:41.34 | Tallu | yeah but we might not :P |
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| 23:41.45 | Naz__ | oh XD |
| 23:42.12 | dondelelcaro | clarity_: that's a function of your bootloader, not the packages per se. |
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| 23:42.44 | Naz__ | anyone able to help? |
| 23:43.27 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: that's a colinux problem; we really can't support it |
| 23:43.34 | Naz__ | hmmm |
| 23:43.47 | Naz__ | it's just I don't know where to get colinux help |
| 23:43.48 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: I'd suggest actually running Debian on the hardware instead |
| 23:43.55 | Naz__ | any freenode channel? |
| 23:44.03 | Naz__ | well, I want to |
| 23:44.07 | Naz__ | but its a server |
| 23:44.12 | pipeline | Naz__: Heh, it's not that we don't want to help you, it's that we can't :P |
| 23:44.16 | Naz__ | and I also want to play a few windows games |
| 23:44.26 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: uh... server and games are diametrically opposed... |
| 23:44.31 | Naz__ | know anywy of doing that? |
| 23:44.43 | Naz__ | lol |
| 23:44.54 | Naz__ | not graphics intensive games |
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| 23:47.15 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: you pretty much don't play games on servers. Especially games that require windows. [nethack and similar may be an exception, but...] |
| 23:47.17 | Naz__ | know any wa y of doing that? |
| 23:47.29 | Naz__ | hmmmm |
| 23:47.31 | vulture | wump! |
| 23:47.31 | Naz__ | I know |
| 23:47.53 | Naz__ | but I don't want to buy another computer x.x |
| 23:47.56 | clarity_ | hrm |
| 23:48.06 | clarity_ | odd... apt-get wants to remove grub and install lilo |
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| 23:48.17 | vulture | Naz__: what's it a server _for_? |
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| 23:48.25 | Naz__ | just a website |
| 23:48.28 | Naz__ | one |
| 23:48.37 | magyar | one would think that screen would be a default utility, like on lost linux systems |
| 23:48.39 | magyar | bleh |
| 23:48.43 | clarity_ | and remove hotplug |
| 23:49.00 | clarity_ | what do you guys think? |
| 23:49.02 | gilianima | which OSI layer is HDLC part of ? |
| 23:49.12 | dondelelcaro | magyar: just install it; the only default is stuff that is Essential: yes, and that's as small as we can make it. |
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| 23:50.01 | Naz__ | should I give up on running games on it till I get an intel mac? |
| 23:50.17 | pipeline | There aren't any games for intel mac, either. |
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| 23:50.24 | pipeline | Install debian, then come back with your problems. |
| 23:50.25 | vulture | Naz__: are you actually hosting for something important, or just your own amusement? |
| 23:50.31 | Naz__ | boot camp/parallel?: P |
| 23:50.39 | Naz__ | amusemnet |
| 23:50.49 | vulture | then do whatever you want on the box.. |
| 23:50.50 | pipeline | Naz__: Another option is to install the officially supported option -- SFU. SFU plus netbsd pkgsrc gets you a halfassedly decent collection of UNIX software. |
| 23:51.05 | vulture | instal X, setup Wine.. *shrugs* |
| 23:51.11 | magyar | dondelelcaro: mo pciutils either |
| 23:51.18 | dondelelcaro | magyar: yerp. |
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| 23:51.27 | Naz__ | hmmm |
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| 23:51.33 | migiel | when i try to login with kdm it's giving me the error Xsession: unable to start X session --- no "home/user/.xsession" file |
| 23:51.45 | migiel | what can i do about this..? |
| 23:51.50 | dondelelcaro | magyar: there's also no emacs, no mutt, no mailx, no mta, no cron, no at, etc. |
| 23:51.58 | vulture | Naz__: And I'm not sure why "it's a server" is a reason not to install Debian.. *shrugs* |
| 23:52.12 | Naz__ | lol |
| 23:52.20 | Naz__ | I originally had it as the only os |
| 23:52.22 | avium | alright, does anyone know why it is that when i install php5-pgsql using backports php breaks? |
| 23:52.25 | magyar | dondelelcaro: you know what would be sweet, if one types in a command, instead of "file not found" it makes an offer to install. Now we are talking |
| 23:52.28 | avium | this is starting to get a little annoying |
| 23:52.28 | Naz__ | bt vmware was slow as hell |
| 23:52.38 | dondelelcaro | magyar: we have it. It's called auto-apt. |
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| 23:53.01 | magyar | dondelelcaro: is auto-apt a default? |
| 23:53.04 | dondelelcaro | magyar: no |
| 23:53.08 | magyar | bah |
| 23:53.08 | Naz__ | so in goes windows xp |
| 23:53.15 | Naz__ | and welll.... |
| 23:53.15 | dondelelcaro | magyar: it's trivially installable though |
| 23:53.19 | Naz__ | you get it :P |
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| 23:53.30 | dondelelcaro | (as is almost any other package that you think should be a default) |
| 23:53.45 | magyar | dondelelcaro: roger, thanks |
| 23:54.06 | dondelelcaro | magyar: if you're totally lost, just pick one of the tasks, they install a crapload of stuff for you. Those of us who know what we want don't want them though, so that stuff isn't installed. |
| 23:54.06 | migiel | anyone knows what information should be in a "/home/user/.xsession" file? |
| 23:54.20 | dondelelcaro | migiel: anything you want to start when you run startx |
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| 23:54.35 | dondelelcaro | migiel: see http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/home_modules/x_base/.xsession FE |
| 23:54.48 | magyar | dondelelcaro: "pick one of the tasks" hmmm? |
| 23:55.01 | migiel | dondelelcaro: when i login, i see something happen, but i get back at the login screen.. |
| 23:55.21 | dondelelcaro | migiel: it should start a window manager; check your .xsession-errors to see what failed |
| 23:55.25 | Naz__ | ugh |
| 23:55.26 | clarity_ | oo reboot wish me luck! |
| 23:55.35 | Naz__ | should I just reinstall debain? |
| 23:55.38 | migiel | dondelelcaro: okey i will |
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| 23:56.53 | dondelelcaro | magyar: when you install debian, you're presented with a lists of tasks that you can choose to install. If you select one of them, the tasks will install. |
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| 23:58.00 | magyar | dondelelcaro: you mean package selection "manual" |
| 23:58.18 | dondelelcaro | magyar: no, I mean the task selection pane that you get at the end of the install |
| 23:58.32 | magyar | hmmm, never noticed |
| 23:59.01 | magyar | dondelelcaro: but auto-apt, sounds kickass |
| 23:59.13 | sanmarcos | i need money, shit, i am in the oven |
| 23:59.34 | dondelelcaro | if you're a pot roast, I don't think you need money. You need to get out of the oven first. |
| 23:59.36 | magyar | no money no honey |
| 23:59.40 | magyar | !money |
| 23:59.40 | dpkg | well, money is recommended by Debian that you open an secret offshore bank account in the Cayman Islands, Bahamas, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Uruguay,any other financial paradise, and hide your secret stash there. Believe me, you will need it someday. |
