| 00:00.00 | th1 | check the one that FSF used for the GPLV3 workshops, the name escapes me |
| 00:00.15 | kriel | th1: 'The BusID entered was not in a recognized format.' |
| 00:00.26 | ryness | thl remember any names? |
| 00:00.31 | th1 | kriel, it might be a bug. but try omitting the extra 0's and the subsystem id, so "0:1:0" |
| 00:00.32 | beardy | ryness: gnome-meeting (gnomemeeting?) perhaps? |
| 00:00.51 | beardy | ryness: apt-cache search meeting :) |
| 00:00.56 | th1 | ;) |
| 00:00.57 | ryness | beardy, thank you |
| 00:01.04 | dli | beardy, gnomemeeting is now ekiga |
| 00:01.13 | beardy | dli: I see. |
| 00:01.20 | beardy | !info ekiga |
| 00:01.31 | kriel | th1: -tacklehugs- Yay! ^^ |
| 00:01.52 | beardy | dli: doesn't exist.. are you sure? |
| 00:01.57 | th1 | kriel, works? :) |
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| 00:02.14 | dli | beardy, http://www.ekiga.org/ |
| 00:02.29 | dli | beardy, or you can find it the old way, www.gnomemeeting.org |
| 00:02.44 | beardy | dli: Are you sure it is in Debian, by that name, I meant. |
| 00:02.53 | krnl`- | i've got a server and a client application (written in C). both running on the same machine. is it possible that one of them disconnects because of a standard OS timeout? |
| 00:02.55 | kriel | th1: No, I just felt like tackling you. </sarcastic> ;P |
| 00:03.02 | friedl | http://snuttisgullipluttis.googlepages.com/help.txt |
| 00:03.14 | dli | beardy, gnome changes the name, very unlikely debian would change it back |
| 00:03.20 | th1 | lol |
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| 00:04.39 | friedl | beardy: Could u have a look at my help.txt, you see there's a lot of packages and... |
| 00:04.41 | beardy | dli: Nothing named ekiga in Debian. |
| 00:04.55 | jlaw | gdn8 |
| 00:05.05 | ryness | can't find ekiga in sarge apt |
| 00:05.13 | beardy | dli: But perhaps it's not that long since the namechange? |
| 00:05.15 | Eulex | beardy, it's stuck in NEW |
| 00:05.23 | beardy | Eulex: Ok. |
| 00:05.38 | beardy | ryness: gnomemeeting then? |
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| 00:06.02 | Eulex | ryness, you'll never do that, it was named gnomemeeting in the version of gnome that ships with sarge |
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| 00:06.13 | dli | beardy, it's still not in debian |
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| 00:06.23 | ryness | from what i see gnomemeeting requires 23MB of gnome libs. |
| 00:06.33 | Eulex | dli: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html |
| 00:06.33 | kriel | can somebody point me at a x-window config file for dual monitors? |
| 00:06.45 | kriel | just for something to look off of? |
| 00:07.43 | prateekg | Hi I am a new debian user, i have amarok 1.2.3 on kde3.3.2, how can i upgrade my amarok app |
| 00:07.54 | dondelelcaro | kriel: http://archimedes.ucr.edu/ss/xorg.conf |
| 00:07.56 | friedl | apt-get install update amarok |
| 00:08.05 | th1 | friedl, ??? |
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| 00:08.24 | friedl | th1: yes my dear? |
| 00:08.39 | beardy | friedl: Stop using dpkg to install packages, until you have to do that, and you'll know or be told if you ever have to do that. ONLY USE APT-GET or APTITUDE to install packages. |
| 00:08.46 | kriel | dondelelcaro, thankies |
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| 00:09.09 | prateekg | friedl: that does not work |
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| 00:09.26 | friedl | but how the f**k am i going to install that only program to change kdm so I can change a god damn theme.. :S |
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| 00:09.49 | beardy | friedl: Is the package in Debian? |
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| 00:09.55 | beardy | friedl: Calm down now. |
| 00:10.05 | th1 | friedl, its not "apt-get install update amarok" |
| 00:10.12 | friedl | ok |
| 00:10.13 | th1 | dont confuse the noobs |
| 00:10.18 | Eulex | friedl, also, don't *ever* mix sarge with testing/unstable |
| 00:10.27 | thingfish | boy really |
| 00:10.36 | beardy | And don't give advice if you don't know what tou are talking about. |
| 00:10.43 | thingfish | boy really |
| 00:10.48 | beardy | heh |
| 00:10.58 | thingfish | I have done both and regretted it. |
| 00:11.01 | friedl | guys could you please just guide me through how to install that program please. |
| 00:11.03 | th1 | lol] |
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| 00:11.13 | prateekg | th1: can you help |
| 00:11.26 | friedl | even if it's unstable |
| 00:11.46 | kriel | okay. WCS. say I screw up gnome to the point of it not booting. Is there a way to get back to the original login screen? ([compname] login:) |
| 00:12.03 | Vasistha | yereth: you still around? sorry, I got a phone call |
| 00:12.08 | beardy | thingfish: At least you learned, and so have I, I've done some stupid things too. :) |
| 00:12.40 | Vasistha | beardy: yesterday morning I was completely braindead, and advised someone to chmod g+w something in /usr/bin |
| 00:12.43 | thingfish | beardy: when you consider that we're little more than glorified monkeys, it's a wonder we don't do more stupid things. |
| 00:12.43 | Eulex | friedl, (1) don't use that package, it's made for testing/unstable (2) either find a package that's made for sarge or go compile it yourself. |
| 00:12.49 | th1 | prateekg, why do you want to upgrade and what version do you ned? |
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| 00:13.07 | Vasistha | beardy: fortunately someone else was around to catch my mistake... heh |
| 00:13.10 | yereth | Vasistha: yeah I am copying 20 gigs of data to the new ext3 partition I just made |
| 00:13.20 | beardy | thingfish: Heh, yeah. I meant in other places, not only here, though. |
| 00:13.20 | friedl | Eulex: okay |
| 00:13.22 | Vasistha | yereth: awesome, glad to hear it! |
| 00:13.26 | Eulex | friedl, or (3) skip that package and go install themes manually; the guys in #kde will know how |
| 00:13.26 | yereth | so afterwards I can check my main disk to see if there are any errors on it |
| 00:13.29 | beardy | thingfish: +too |
| 00:13.46 | thingfish | beardy: oh me too |
| 00:13.51 | ryness | anyone familiar with running ekiga or gnomemeeting know of a good client? |
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| 00:14.08 | thingfish | I seem to have specialized in doing stupid things throughout my life. |
| 00:14.23 | inetd___ | ryness: i use gnomemeeting |
| 00:14.26 | spanglesontoast | anyone got a fix for #: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrandr.so.2.0', which is also in package xlibs |
| 00:14.26 | beardy | thingfish: Ah, heh, yeah, didn't think that far. |
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| 00:14.37 | bztunk | anyone ever had that error? "mocp: relocation error: mocp: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_get_channels_min, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference" |
| 00:14.42 | yereth | Vasistha: thanx for concern and help :) |
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| 00:14.50 | ryness | inetd___, what clients do you use with it? |
| 00:15.27 | inetd___ | ryness: gm to gm only |
| 00:15.41 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, is this debian? |
| 00:15.48 | beardy | bztunk: Google the error. |
| 00:15.50 | spanglesontoast | yup |
| 00:15.53 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, apt-cache policy xlibs? |
| 00:16.03 | ryness | ahh... thx inetd___ |
| 00:16.11 | bztunk | beardy: tried, only 1 result from a japanese blog :( |
| 00:16.23 | kriel | ... uhm... what's the current extension for plaintext files? I wanna guess txt, but i'm not sure if that's windowsified... |
| 00:16.26 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, and what Installed: says is what's important |
| 00:16.36 | simulcra | bztunk, google groups? |
| 00:16.43 | azeem | kriel: usually, they have no extension |
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| 00:17.00 | beardy | kriel: There is only filenames, extensions does not exist. Repeat! |
| 00:17.04 | inetd___ | ryness: h323 works great on it...if u want multi platform client go for skype |
| 00:17.06 | spanglesontoast | Installed: 4.3.0-0ds4 |
| 00:17.24 | kriel | azeem: beardy: ... this is going to take some getting used to... ... -blinks a few times- |
| 00:17.28 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, and apt-cache policy libxrandr2? |
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| 00:17.46 | ryness | thx inetd___ ..... i was actually looking for a server/client system... like marratech. |
| 00:17.50 | spanglesontoast | it isn't |
| 00:17.59 | thingfish | spanglesontoast: what distro did you use before Debian? |
| 00:18.00 | simulcra | kriel, you'll love not having to type the extra '.' :) |
| 00:18.16 | beardy | kriel: By convenience, call textfiles something.txt, and so on, but it's no standard, and it's not necessary. But usually, things are called the same thing as other places, .mp3 for mp3, .wav for wav-files, .avi for AVI movies, and so on. |
| 00:18.21 | thingfish | or do I know that already heh |
| 00:18.31 | bztunk | simulcra: ah, seems like it's a common bug heh |
| 00:18.32 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, well then, take those two commands and pastebin the full output of them. |
| 00:18.32 | kriel | simulcra, yeah, but i can just see myself going like 'okay, what the hell do i open this with?' |
| 00:18.40 | anywavedave | i've got a bit of a problem. I'm trying to use usb devices but when I use Linux they don't show up. I've done some googling. A lot of the pages say just use hotplug and they'll magically show up. I have hotplug installed and they don't just magically show up. |
| 00:18.47 | simulcra | bztunk, hope you fix it |
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| 00:18.57 | Eulex | anywavedave, you need to mount them. |
| 00:18.58 | inetd___ | ryness: for a LAN? |
| 00:19.07 | charzero | Its been a long time since i've used x on debian. is x-window-system-core still where i should start? |
| 00:19.19 | cheal | charzero: yes |
| 00:19.22 | SubStack | mkdir /media/usb; mount /dev/sda0 /media/usb |
| 00:19.22 | yereth | kriel: more accurately, extensions are just for convenience for the user, so he |
| 00:19.22 | ryness | for internet and lan |
| 00:19.25 | SubStack | that'll usually do the trick |
| 00:19.35 | yereth | kriel: or she can see what it is |
| 00:19.43 | ryness | something like webex or elluminate? |
| 00:19.46 | simulcra | kriel, cat usually does the trick for me, but i usually work in console, so YMMV |
| 00:19.50 | inetd___ | ryness: try VLC...it does the job aswell |
| 00:19.56 | beardy | charzero: /msg dpkg install x |
| 00:19.56 | anywavedave | Eulex>ok I'm a noob and don't know anything, please help. |
| 00:20.10 | beardy | anywavedave: /msg dpkg grounding |
| 00:20.12 | spanglesontoast | ihttp://pastebin.com/740399 |
| 00:20.13 | Eulex | !vfatrw |
| 00:20.13 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
| 00:20.20 | spanglesontoast | http://pastebin.com/740399 |
| 00:20.22 | spanglesontoast | there we go |
| 00:20.27 | ryness | ok thx i'll look into VLC |
| 00:20.33 | Eulex | anywavedave, and substack gave you some nice advice. |
| 00:20.36 | anywavedave | beardy, what? |
| 00:20.49 | ryness | video/collaboration software seems to be much more advanced in the commercial sector. |
| 00:20.52 | beardy | !tell anywavedave -about grounding |
| 00:21.40 | charzero | ati users: (mobility x300) framebuffer or no? |
| 00:21.48 | Eulex | charzero, no |
| 00:22.14 | Eulex | charzero, it usually causes more harm than it helps. |
| 00:22.18 | kriel | ... how the heck do you move stuff around on panels? -pokes it- It's like... superglued. |
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| 00:22.58 | simulcra | kriel, right click title bar, move to panel? |
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| 00:23.04 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, hmm, could you pastebin the original error -- the one about that file already being in the package xlibs? |
| 00:23.21 | spanglesontoast | erm ya |
| 00:23.23 | kriel | simulcra, no, i mean, the icons once they're on the panel... |
| 00:23.31 | beardy | anywavedave: You said you were a "noob", the factoid grounding contains good starting points. Read the reference. |
| 00:23.40 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, also, you're trying to dist-upgrade from sarge to etch, right? |
| 00:23.46 | simulcra | right-click, unlock? then right-click move? works in gnome... |
| 00:23.59 | anywavedave | SubStack, I typed su and my password plus mkdir /media/usb; mount /dev/sda0 /media/usb and got a message mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 00:24.06 | beardy | anywavedave: /msg dpkg something, means, type that in your irc-client to ask the bot about something. |
| 00:24.09 | Eulex | simulcra, how do you know that he's using gnome? |
| 00:24.27 | spanglesontoast | yes Eulex |
| 00:24.29 | spanglesontoast | http://pastebin.com/740405 |
| 00:24.29 | simulcra | Eulex, i assumed, wrongly, hehe |
| 00:24.42 | kriel | cause I am... but, that's besides the point. I don't see an unlock button oo; |
| 00:24.47 | yereth | gnome sucks. |
| 00:24.56 | beardy | anywavedave: Do you know which filesystem that is used on that drive? |
| 00:24.57 | SubStack | anywavedave: is it a usb drive? |
| 00:24.58 | Eulex | simulcra, I'm not saying that you're wrong, just that you might be wrong. |
| 00:25.07 | SubStack | you can't mount it unless it's a file system |
| 00:25.10 | anywavedave | if I understood any of the stuff I man'd I wouldn't be in here |
| 00:25.11 | SubStack | forgot to ask that |
| 00:25.16 | kriel | oh, wait. ... ><; -hides under stupid hat- |
| 00:25.30 | ryness | in sarge, how can i tell if i have ALSA support compiled into my kernel? |
| 00:25.40 | thingfish | ryness: uname -r |
| 00:25.47 | beardy | anywavedave: Where has the drive been formated/partitioned? |
| 00:25.51 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, try doing apt-get install xlibs |
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| 00:26.04 | ryness | thingfish, that just gives me the kernel number |
| 00:26.20 | spanglesontoast | it says unmet depends |
| 00:26.22 | anywavedave | beardy, no I have several devices, a zip, a memory stick, reader, usb hard drive |
| 00:26.22 | beardy | anywavedave: Well, no one understands everything at once, as long as you try, asking here is the right thing. |
| 00:26.28 | ryness | would it say 2.4.27-2-686-smp |
| 00:26.29 | ryness | -ALSA ? |
| 00:26.32 | thingfish | well duh, ryness. if you must, if it's 2.6, you're set for alsa. |
| 00:26.34 | spanglesontoast | and wants me to do apt-get -f install |
| 00:26.35 | Eulex | ryness, if you tell us your kernel version, we can tell if you have alsa in your kernel |
| 00:26.43 | ryness | thank you |
| 00:26.44 | beardy | anywavedave: The one you are trying to mount at the moment, I emant. |
| 00:26.57 | Eulex | ryness, 2.4.27 doesn't have alsa in the kernel, you need to install the kernel modules separately |
| 00:26.58 | ryness | my question wasn't "do i have alsa support", it was how do i tell :) |
| 00:27.14 | thingfish | hence the 'uname -r' question. |
| 00:27.21 | Eulex | ryness, 2.6 kernels have it built in, 2.4's do not |
| 00:27.21 | yereth | Eulex: isn't it better advice to upgrade to 2.6 ... ? |
| 00:27.34 | Eulex | yereth, <ryness> my question wasn't "do i have alsa support", it was how do i tell :) |
| 00:27.50 | ryness | thanks, sorry for being obtuse |
| 00:27.55 | anywavedave | I had tried the zip but it doesn't matter. Well actually the memory stick would be better. It holds more data. |
| 00:27.58 | yereth | Eulex: :) |
| 00:28.05 | Eulex | !kernel of instability |
| 00:28.05 | dpkg | Linux 2.6. "Andrew's vision, as expressed at the summit, is that the mainline kernel will be the fastest and most feature-rich kernel around, but not, necessarily, the most stable. Final stabilization is to be done by distributors (as happens now, really)..." <http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3513>, or http://kerneltrap.org/node/4793 (new 2.6 numbering scheme - proposal) |
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| 00:28.32 | yereth | Eulex: you actually run a 2.4 kernel? |
| 00:28.39 | Eulex | yereth, I don't |
| 00:29.02 | anywavedave | beardy, I had tried the zip but it doesn't matter. Well actually the memory stick would be better. It holds more data. |
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| 00:29.34 | thingfish | oh why can't I live next door to a thai restaurant... |
| 00:29.35 | beardy | anywavedave: And what filesystem does the drive you are trying to mount now have on it? |
| 00:30.28 | yereth | guys, I said before, I get this message running cfdisk: 'FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions overlap' |
| 00:30.29 | anywavedave | beardy, I have no idea. I came from a Windows background. I just used to plug it in and voila... |
| 00:30.55 | yereth | when I run testdisk it doesn't let me do anything on my /dev/hda but change properties or so |
| 00:31.00 | Vasistha | yereth: I run a 2.4 kernel because I have an older laptop, and haven't yet gotten apm working with 2.6 |
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| 00:31.43 | yereth | it doesn't say there's anything wrong with my disk and still cfdisk doesn't work |
| 00:31.45 | Eulex | spanglesontoast, I gotta go to bed now, but try this: use dpkg (man dpkg) to force-remove the current xlibs package (make it ignore dependencies) and install the new one using dpkg. you could also try to find out why it doesn't want install those packages in the listing at http://pastebin.com/740399 by trying to apt-get install them |
| 00:31.49 | beardy | gah... |
| 00:32.00 | yereth | Vasistha: seems a reasonable reason |
| 00:32.04 | spanglesontoast | ok |
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| 00:32.20 | yereth | beardy, Vasistha: can you help me? |
| 00:32.30 | Vasistha | !azxsk |
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| 00:32.32 | Vasistha | !ask |
| 00:32.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 00:32.37 | yereth | Vasistha: I did |
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| 00:32.44 | yereth | well |
| 00:32.48 | Vasistha | yereth: heh ... yeah, you did, excuse me |
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| 00:32.59 | anywavedave | oops! I'm back! |
| 00:33.01 | yereth | ok.. I should have added a question mark perhaps :P |
| 00:33.15 | beardy | yereth: He was perhaps not here when you asked. |
| 00:33.18 | signature16 | i have a IBM t30 laptop and i dont know how to use the built in number pad. anybody know how? |
| 00:33.26 | beardy | yereth: Can you try qtparted instead? |
| 00:33.31 | Vasistha | yereth: reflex, you know. Anyway, I'm not really sure. I've occasionally had such issues, don't remember how I resolved them |
| 00:33.57 | yereth | beardy: an apt-cache search on qtparted gives me nothing |
| 00:34.13 | beardy | yereth: Hmm, parted then? |
| 00:34.15 | yereth | Vasistha: so any directions you can point me at? |
| 00:34.17 | Vasistha | signature16: there might be a "Fn" button for special laptop functions, and there might be a "NumLk" key for number locking somewhere aroudn |
| 00:34.42 | yereth | beardy: when I run parted it shows me a commandline that leaves me absolutely clueless |
| 00:34.43 | beardy | yereth: Or, if you have a better than dialup connection, use a livecd with qtparted on, like SystemRescueCD. |
| 00:34.50 | anywavedave | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.03 | beardy | yereth: (to download it I mean, if you don't have it already) |
| 00:35.09 | signature16 | Vasistha: the numlock key doesnt work because you can access it without pressing a special button...the button im trying to find |
| 00:35.14 | beardy | anywavedave: Was the drive used in Windows? |
| 00:35.30 | Vasistha | yereth: parted ought to work, but be careful... |
| 00:35.31 | yereth | beardy: er... is that my best bet? downloading a livecd? |
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| 00:35.40 | anywavedave | beardy, iused all my usb in Windows XP. |
| 00:36.00 | Vasistha | signature16: uhhh.... have you tried looking at ibm's manual for the laptop? |
| 00:36.11 | beardy | yereth: I don't know, figure it out then ;) try fdisk instead of cfdisk? Figure out parted, and so on. |
| 00:36.23 | signature16 | Vasistha: i bought it on eBay and it doesnt have a manual |
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| 00:36.48 | Vasistha | signature16: look for one on ibm's site, it sounds like you could use it well! |
| 00:36.59 | yereth | beardy: cfdisk doesn't work, I told you.. I may try fdisk.. parted sucks in usability anyways |
| 00:37.08 | beardy | anywavedave: Then, the mount command as you used before, but add "-t ntfs" to it. |
| 00:37.14 | Vasistha | signature16: if you want to take a photograph of your keyboard and post it on the web then maybe I can help you ;-) |
| 00:37.23 | beardy | yereth: Try qtparted then. |
| 00:38.06 | Vasistha | beardy, yereth : it looks like qtparted is not in sarge. My experiences with qtparted have been that it's unstable, whereas parted is much better |
| 00:38.24 | yereth | lol... beardy, dude, I don't have qtparted |
| 00:38.30 | beardy | Vasistha: Could you perhaps help yereth then? |
| 00:38.45 | yereth | Vasistha: I'm sure it's great, but I have no clue how to use parted.. I run it, and I get nothing |
| 00:38.49 | beardy | yereth: If you don't have something, you get it. And I told you one way to do it. |
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| 00:38.53 | Vasistha | yereth: parted isn't so bad, you just have to take a while to figure it out |
| 00:38.54 | beardy | yereth: Dude. |
| 00:39.11 | Vasistha | yereth: did you try pressing like the question mark ? key ? |
| 00:39.16 | yereth | I run check, and it asks me for a NUMBER... a partition NUMBER... I mean, I know about /dev/hdx etc, but a number? |
| 00:39.17 | Vasistha | yereth: or type help |
| 00:39.25 | yereth | Vasistha: I did type help |
| 00:39.34 | yereth | Vasistha: and I typedcheck |
| 00:39.51 | Vasistha | yereth: oh yeah, you're getting somewhere. So partitions have numbers, first partition, second partition, and so on. just give it a number like 1 |
| 00:39.51 | yereth | beardy: lol.. with a livecd! I might as well throw in the ubuntu livecd then |
| 00:40.07 | yereth | Vasistha: 1 doesn't exist, it said |
| 00:40.10 | th1 | yereth, if you know about "hdx" as you call it.. x is usually a number |
| 00:40.21 | beardy | yereth: Have you searched for other partitioning programs? |
| 00:40.35 | Vasistha | th1: ... letter... |
| 00:40.38 | edison | Help how can i install lame to encode mp3 ? |
| 00:40.43 | beardy | !lame |
| 00:40.43 | dpkg | somebody said lame was : Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder at http://www.mp3dev.org/ mirrored at http://lame.sourceforge.net/ which contains debian build instructions, to make your own debs from the tarballs. Versions 3.81 onwards are LGPL!. or don't forget to 'chmod +x debian/rules'. Get .debs from <marillat> or <rarewares> |
| 00:40.46 | yereth | th1: hdax and hdbx.. but what if I have hda1 and hdb1? |
| 00:40.53 | edison | !lame |
| 00:40.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lame is : Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder at http://www.mp3dev.org/ mirrored at http://lame.sourceforge.net/ which contains debian build instructions, to make your own debs from the tarballs. Versions 3.81 onwards are LGPL!. or don't forget to 'chmod +x debian/rules'. Get .debs from <marillat> or <rarewares> |
| 00:41.02 | beardy | edison: marillat probably has it, /msg dpkg marillat |
| 00:41.07 | yereth | beardy: I did, but get a little lost looking for them actually |
| 00:41.10 | th1 | yereth, yeah then ?? |
| 00:41.22 | beardy | yereth: pipe through less, and read. |
| 00:41.22 | yereth | th1: which one is partition 1 then? |
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| 00:41.29 | krnl`- | how can i get the exact allocated memory in bytes of a given application? |
| 00:41.29 | Vasistha | yereth: you don't need to worry about anything on hdb, that's your ext3 drive that you just got ext3 on, right? You want to focus on hda which cfdisk can't read |
| 00:42.04 | yereth | Vasistha: yes.. exactly.. but how am I suppose to know what cfdisk thinks is my partition number 1, or 2 or 3? |
| 00:42.24 | Vasistha | yereth: cfdisk looks at all the partitions on a drive |
| 00:42.29 | th1 | yereth, hda1 ?!?!? |
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| 00:42.50 | Vasistha | yereth: here's an idea: cat /etc/fstab and paste it to pastebin |
| 00:43.04 | yereth | beardy: I wished that, just as the debian install cd, there was a decent program to do all the partitioning, checking and formatting with.. but obviously they couldn't provide it with the distribution and only with the installer? |
| 00:43.06 | th1 | and cat /proc/mounts and /proc/partitions as well pelase |
| 00:43.13 | anywavedave | beardy, I tried mount -t ntfs /dev/sda4 /mnt/ also sda1 2 3 4 same result is not a valid block device message for each one |
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| 00:43.26 | th1 | .esfd |
| 00:43.42 | beardy | yereth: I think it's done with scripts and fdisk/cfdisk. |
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| 00:44.02 | Vasistha | yereth: yeah, those too, cat /proc/mounts cat /proc/partitions cat /etc/fstab and put them at http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 00:44.14 | yereth | http://pastebin.com/740440 |
| 00:44.52 | beardy | anywavedave: Are you sure that is the correct devicename? |
| 00:45.42 | anywavedave | beardy, no that's just the info I copied from one of the sites that google turned up that sounded lik what I need to do. |
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| 00:46.18 | beardy | !usbstorage |
| 00:46.18 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 00:46.23 | beardy | anywavedave: ^^^ |
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| 00:46.37 | yereth | Vasistha: http://pastebin.com/740446 |
| 00:46.41 | yereth | there |
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| 00:47.50 | beardy | anywavedave: run 'lsmod | grep usb-storage' and 'lsmod | grep sd_mod' any output? |
| 00:47.52 | anywavedave | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:48.20 | beardy | anywavedave: The last words would have been enough.. |
| 00:48.38 | beardy | anywavedave: Then do as I said above please. |
| 00:48.58 | yereth | Vasistha: still there? |
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| 00:49.46 | Vasistha | yereth: distracted :P |
| 00:49.47 | anywavedave | beardy, this is what I got back |
| 00:49.56 | yereth | Vasistha: I got you the pastebin |
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| 00:50.02 | anywavedave | sd_mod 21632 0 |
| 00:50.02 | anywavedave | scsi_mod 122572 2 usb_storage,sd_mod |
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| 00:51.03 | yereth | well guys, thanks for the help and all |
| 00:51.06 | yereth | it's time for bed |
| 00:51.08 | yereth | nn |
| 00:51.13 | beardy | anywavedave: Then you seem to have those modules loaded. Now, unplug the USB drive, and plug it back in, after that, run 'dmesg', look for USB things, at the bottom. |
| 00:51.36 | Vasistha | yereth: good luck! later |
| 00:51.46 | yereth | Vasistha: thanx mate! catch ya later |
| 00:52.18 | beardy | yereth: Try asking tomorrow again, perhaps a good nights sleep will help you think of how to solve it, goodnight. |
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| 00:52.43 | yereth | beardy: perhaps. :) hope so. thanks for the help and goodnight |
| 00:54.02 | anywavedave | beardy, results of dmesg Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi4, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 |
| 00:54.02 | anywavedave | USB Mass Storage device found at 5 |
| 00:54.06 | th1 | nite guys |
| 00:54.51 | netsurf3__ | nite |
| 00:55.19 | beardy | anywavedave: Hmm, try mounting /dev/sda1 again now. |
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| 00:57.50 | anywavedave | beardy, i've entered so many commands I don't know which one was even close to the proper mount |
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| 00:58.48 | beardy | anywavedave: :) (there's always 'man mount') 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/somedirectoryyoucreatedearlier?' |
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| 01:00.05 | beardy | anywavedave: I don't remember, /mnt/usb yu created earlier perhaps? |
| 01:00.15 | kriel | are GLcore and xtt really necessary modules in x-server? |
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| 01:00.46 | beardy | kriel: No, I don't remember/know exactly what xtt is though. |
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| 01:01.07 | beardy | !xtt |
| 01:01.07 | dpkg | xtt is, like, true type fonts for X |
| 01:01.21 | kriel | beardy, ... Oh. -leaves it- |
| 01:01.22 | j23a | I'm having trouble with iproute2 and having a box have 2 internet connections, I think I got it correctly, but regardless of what I do I cannot get it to go out on the default gateway unless I only list one. |
| 01:01.34 | kriel | !msg dpkg dbe |
| 01:01.38 | kriel | ack. ><; |
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| 01:01.54 | simulcra | totem movie player can't recognize my vcd, how do i configure it? |
| 01:02.07 | beardy | anywavedave: 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/usb' well? |
| 01:02.39 | rabies | does anyone know how to install fglrx with the new 6.9.0 xorg? |
| 01:02.56 | rabies | the unofficial guide still uses 6.8 drivers |
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| 01:05.40 | anywavedave | beardy, i haven't created any directories, my jackass friend put this OS together for me after convincing me that Linux was the shiznet. I'll have him install the devices too! Thanks for trying though. Peace. |
| 01:06.21 | kriel | okay, say i want to get more updated software. (aka firefox 1.5 not 1.0, etc.) should i add unstable deb or...? |
| 01:06.35 | beardy | anywavedave: Well, have your friend help you? Anyway, if you want to reinstall, use the Debian Sarge netinstaller. |
| 01:06.44 | beardy | !d-i anywavedave |
| 01:06.44 | dpkg | anywavedave, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 01:06.59 | dli | kriel, no, since you are asking |
| 01:07.04 | beardy | anywavedave: Can you please run 'cat /etc/debian_version' and tell me what it says? |
| 01:07.13 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 01:07.13 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 01:07.25 | beardy | !spam tarzeau |
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| 01:07.32 | beardy | ;) |
| 01:07.43 | anywavedave | beardy, 3.1 |
| 01:08.16 | beardy | anywavedave: Ok, you already run sarge then. Don't give up. Is your friend a real jackass? |
| 01:08.25 | beardy | anywavedave: Ask him to help you? |
| 01:09.34 | beardy | anywavedave: Oh, heh, you already said you'd have him help you, I missed that, sorry. Good luck, and ask again if you need help with anything, but in the beginning it's perhaps easier to have your friend teach you the basics. |
| 01:09.45 | rabies | ah |
| 01:09.46 | rabies | nvm |
| 01:10.57 | anywavedave | beardy, no just frustrated because he's got me on a system that I can't use anything on with major tweeking! He's actually pretty decent. At least he made my machine dual boot with a swap partition so I can boot into widows with my files and put them on usb drives there. |
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| 01:12.07 | beardy | anywavedave: It's not "major tweaking" actually, but I understand it's frustrating in the beginning, just don't give up, and it'll be more fun the more you learn. |
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| 01:13.21 | anywavedave | I'm trying to break away from Wind-woes for more security but didn't realize I'd have to do a lot of the programming myself. The few things I have learned so far have been fun or at least now it |
| 01:13.30 | anywavedave | is fun to know |
| 01:13.31 | beardy | anywavedave: But, what happened when you tried to mount? You said you didn't make a directory? |
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| 01:13.54 | www | leandro |
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| 01:14.19 | beardy | anywavedave: Well, it's not programming, just the way of doing things. You can have disks automount and so on, later. |
| 01:14.58 | beardy | anywavedave: To make a directory to mount on, 'cd /mnt' and 'mkdir usb' |
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| 01:15.36 | beardy | anywavedave: After that. 'cd ..' then 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb' |
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| 01:16.59 | beardy | !tell anywavedave -about reference |
| 01:17.05 | beardy | anywavedave: Start reading that. |
| 01:17.10 | beardy | anywavedave: later |
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| 01:17.26 | ryness | can anyone help, i'm apt-get installing 2.6.15 kernel and i get this error about installing a kernel with an initrd image and it won't work?? |
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| 01:18.14 | azeem | ryness: you should paste the full error |
| 01:18.17 | azeem | !paster |
| 01:18.17 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
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| 01:18.44 | dbe | how do I renew my IP from a DHCP connection? |
| 01:19.06 | beardy | dbe: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 01:19.16 | dbe | beardy, that didn't help |
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| 01:19.32 | dbe | beardy, and I have turned of the modem for 20 minutes, that didn't help either |
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| 01:19.51 | ryness | ok i paster'd the full error msg |
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| 01:20.42 | beardy | dbe: The modem? Are you using pppoe? |
| 01:21.13 | dbe | ADSL over a DHCP connection |
| 01:21.14 | SubStack | dbe: dhclient interface |
| 01:21.20 | anywavedave | beardy, yeah that'll be sweeeet! Mmmmmmmmm automount! |
| 01:21.22 | SubStack | or dhcpcd interface |
| 01:21.23 | ryness | anyone seen that error before when upgrading the kernel? |
| 01:21.24 | SubStack | usually anyhow |
| 01:21.26 | anywavedave | Later. |
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| 01:21.55 | beardy | could have atleast done as I said, when I spoonfed him.. |
| 01:22.08 | azeem | DarkJesus: if that was a script, please turn it off |
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| 01:22.51 | beardy | !beer azeem |
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| 01:24.48 | ryness | !paster |
| 01:24.49 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 01:25.01 | ryness | ok |
| 01:25.03 | beardy | !pastebin |
| 01:25.04 | dpkg | somebody said pastebin was a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the channel to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 01:25.11 | rabies | woo! |
| 01:25.13 | rabies | new drivers are working! |
| 01:25.15 | ryness | here's the URL if anyone can plz help: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2647 |
| 01:25.15 | beardy | You can also /msg dpkg factoid |
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| 01:26.50 | ryness | "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version" ? |
| 01:26.58 | ryness | should i install a ramdisk generation tool first? |
| 01:27.17 | dondelelcaro | ryness: something like yaird or mkinitrd |
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| 01:29.36 | ryness | i can't do any apt-get operation now |
| 01:29.49 | beardy | ryness: Why? |
| 01:30.31 | ryness | after i did apt-get install linux-image 2.6.15.... it gave an error about not finding a suitable ramdisk generator now it gives the same error everytime i try to apt-get something. |
| 01:31.10 | beardy | ryness: Try to remove that linux-image first then, then install yaird, then install the linux-image again. |
| 01:31.18 | ryness | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2648 |
| 01:31.33 | ryness | when i try to apt-get remove linux-imagexxxx i get that error also |
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| 01:32.55 | ryness | ok it let me apt-get remove the specific image version (2.6.15xxx) |
| 01:33.01 | ryness | but says yaird is already latest |
| 01:33.59 | beardy | running sarge? |
| 01:34.22 | ryness | yes |
| 01:34.23 | beardy | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 01:34.23 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.15 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615.htm or for amd64/em64t http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2615-amd64.htm |
| 01:34.44 | beardy | I don't know if that helps, but have a look. |
| 01:35.19 | beardy | Hmm, it wont, it's probably installerimages with that kernel on them, nevermind. |
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| 01:36.04 | beardy | ryness: Try install mkinitrd aswell? |
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| 01:37.33 | Nickname_ | hi |
| 01:38.02 | AnyQuestion | i want to know how can i connect two computers with a serial cable under gnu/linux |
| 01:38.04 | Drakeson | sources.list? |
| 01:38.13 | Drakeson | !sources.list |
| 01:38.13 | dpkg | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to /etc/apt/sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, |
| 01:39.36 | AnyQuestion | someone can help me? |
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| 01:42.24 | dli | AnyQuestion, I think you can, but can you do ethernet? or wireless? |
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| 01:43.31 | AnyQuestion | dli: yes but it is for a student class is a home work :S |
| 01:43.48 | AnyQuestion | dli: i'm searching on google but i cant found anything. |
| 01:44.38 | dli | AnyQuestion, haha, I think we don't do homework here |
| 01:45.57 | AnyQuestion | dli: i know.. but i was thinking that maybe the people here can help me. it was my last resource... maybe i will get a bad note on my homework... lol |
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| 01:48.31 | beardy | AnyQuestion: Edit /etc/inittab, at the bottom, there are commented examples, uncomment the ttyS0 line, if you use the first serial port (configure the line if you have to) run 'init q' to reinitialize the /etc/inittab, connect the cable, on the other box, run a terminalprogram, like minicom, telix, or whatever is available on that box/os. |
| 01:49.45 | AnyQuestion | beardy: but if i make a connection like that i will get a prompt asking the login and password for my computer? |
| 01:49.54 | AnyQuestion | beardy: like brute terminal? |
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| 01:50.49 | beardy | AnyQuestion: Yes. |
| 01:50.53 | beardy | AnyQuestion: brute? |
| 01:51.29 | AnyQuestion | beardy: sorry my english its too bad |
| 01:51.49 | beardy | AnyQuestion: You will get a login prompt. |
| 01:51.59 | AnyQuestion | beardy: on my country this is a brute terminal.. its only a pc that connect to the main server on linux.. and it ask the login .. |
| 01:52.07 | AnyQuestion | beardy: yes! |
| 01:52.25 | beardy | AnyQuestion: Ok. |
| 01:52.44 | AnyQuestion | beardy: i make this long time ago... but i was thinking.. that its the only way!. |
| 01:52.46 | AnyQuestion | thanks a lot! |
| 01:53.12 | AnyQuestion | beardy: good luck! a have fun |
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| 01:53.27 | AnyQuestion | i love gnu/linux help |
| 01:53.37 | beardy | AnyQuestion: No problem. You too :) |
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| 01:53.56 | Drakeson | I am have ubuntu(and friends) on a machine and want to turn it into debian. what is the official (+some unofficial) list of sources? |
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| 01:54.10 | Drakeson | in other words I need a recent /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:54.11 | rabies | Drakeson: go to ftp://ftp.debian.org and there should be a list of mirrors |
| 01:54.18 | rabies | Drakeson: apt-spy can do it too somewhat |
| 01:54.50 | rabies | Drakeson: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian |
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| 01:55.22 | Drakeson | thanks, but just an /etc/apt/sources.list might do it ;) |
| 01:56.28 | beardy | !d-i Drakeson |
| 01:56.28 | dpkg | Drakeson, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 01:57.18 | beardy | Backup your /home first and so on, of course. |
| 01:57.35 | Drakeson | beardy: thanks. |
| 01:57.39 | Drakeson | of course ;) |
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| 01:58.47 | omar | which version of x is active in testing? |
| 01:58.50 | ryness | anyone running their own voip/pbx solution in debian? |
| 01:58.56 | omar | xfree86 or xorg? |
| 01:59.06 | beardy | ryness: Most likely yes. |
| 01:59.13 | ryness | hehehe thanks |
| 01:59.26 | beardy | omar: I think it's optional in etch still, but not sure. |
| 01:59.34 | ryness | if anyone running their own voip/pbx solution in debian could you please tell me which packages it involves? |
| 01:59.43 | SkyBlueshoes | I've just done a fresh install of Debian Sarge Gnu/3.1 and my GRUB is hanging up when loading stage 1.5, I was getting an error 18, but repartioned a boot partition of 7Gb and I'm no longer getting that error, it's just freezing up...any ideas? |
| 02:00.00 | beardy | ryness: apt-cache search voip |
| 02:00.07 | adam_ | Did you install from disk or FTP sky? |
| 02:00.16 | SkyBlueshoes | netinst CD |
| 02:00.26 | SkyBlueshoes | downloaded it last night |
| 02:00.54 | ryness | thx beardy, that narrows it down to 30 or so ;) |
| 02:01.03 | adam_ | maybe you have a bad burn? |
| 02:01.09 | SkyBlueshoes | I'm replacing an OpenBSD installation and didn't have any of these problems with OBSD, just didn't like the chroot'd Apache |
| 02:01.26 | SkyBlueshoes | no, Debian installed fine, no problems there |
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| 02:01.33 | SkyBlueshoes | just when I went to restart |
| 02:02.05 | adam_ | I'm not sure... I would think that there was a bad burn or download and some data was corrupted somwhere |
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| 02:02.19 | beardy | SkyBlueshoes: Try lilo? Just to see if that gives you trouble aswell? |
| 02:02.27 | SkyBlueshoes | how do I do that? |
| 02:02.43 | SkyBlueshoes | I'm relatively new to *nix and completely new to Debian |
| 02:02.49 | adam_ | as am I |
| 02:02.57 | adam_ | don't feel bad, I still don't have a working GUI on my debian install |
| 02:03.06 | Stevie-O | apt-get install xserver-xorg kde |
| 02:03.06 | Ronin | adam_: why not? |
| 02:03.08 | SkyBlueshoes | eh, I don't want a GUI, I'll be ssh'ing in |
| 02:03.11 | omar | anyone know how to fix dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 02:03.11 | omar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.20 | beardy | SkyBlueshoes: When you have installed, in the last steps in the installer, you can select between grub and lilo. And if you can't, run the installer with 'expert26' |
| 02:03.36 | SkyBlueshoes | aha...expert26...k, I'll try that |
| 02:03.39 | multi_io | what is the difference between packages x11-common and xserver-common and xserver-xorg? they conflict with each other... which one should I install?? |
| 02:03.46 | adam_ | Ronin, I'm not sure. The installation went off without a hitch as far as I can tell, (FTP from disk) but when I boot I get a CLI and when I run StartX it tells me the command isn't found |
| 02:03.53 | beardy | SkyBlueshoes: Or just expert, if you want a 2.4 kernel. |
| 02:04.06 | Ronin | adam_: did you install x? |
| 02:04.33 | beardy | multi_io: xserver-xorg is xorg, the others aren't, I'd guess. |
| 02:04.41 | adam_ | as far as I know... I'm going to try to reinstall it and hope that goes better. I chose the desktop option when it was asking me to select packages |
| 02:05.00 | Stevie-O | adam_: just try 'apt-get install xserver-xorg kde' |
| 02:05.09 | beardy | Stevie-O: Why kde? |
| 02:05.10 | Ronin | adam_: you recall install xserver-xfree86 assuming your on sarge |
| 02:05.14 | Stevie-O | I like kde |
| 02:05.19 | adam_ | I noticed that the installer timed out on a few packages while I was around, I'm thinking that may have been what happened |
| 02:05.23 | beardy | Stevie-O: You are not everyone ;) |
| 02:05.31 | Stevie-O | Never claimed to be |
| 02:05.32 | beardy | !window-manager |
| 02:05.37 | dli | Stevie-O, I think kde would pull in xserver-xorg, |
| 02:05.37 | adam_ | I like Gnome myself, but I could see myself using KDE |
| 02:05.38 | beardy | !window manager |
| 02:05.38 | dpkg | window manager is, like, includes: 9wm, aewm, afterstep, amaterus, amiwm, asclassic, blackbox, ctwm, cwwm, enlightenment, evilwm, fluxbox, flwm, fvwm, icewm, ion, kwin, larswm, lwm, matchbox, metacity, nawm, olvwm, olwm, openbox, oroborus, plwm, pwm, qvwm, ratpoon, sapphire, sawfish, twm, uwm, vtwm, w9wm, waimea, wininfo, wm2, wmaker, and xfwm4. TWIN (Text mode). Pickers: selectwm and wmanager. No WM-picker-picker. Yet. |
| 02:06.09 | beardy | Stevie-O: I know you haven't. (I haven't seen it atleast :) ) |
| 02:06.11 | Ronin | adam_: you recall install xserver-xfree86 assuming your on sarge |
| 02:06.23 | adam_ | I remember the Xfree86 stuff yeah |
| 02:06.35 | adam_ | and I remember seeing it download a crapload of KDE themed packages |
| 02:06.36 | Stevie-O | WM-picker-picker? |
| 02:06.44 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 02:06.47 | Stevie-O | haha |
| 02:06.49 | beardy | heh |
| 02:07.11 | Stevie-O | nina meyers iS DEAD |
| 02:07.14 | Stevie-O | MUERTE |
| 02:07.25 | Stevie-O | MORTE |
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| 02:07.47 | Stevie-O | what exactly is a Hyper Newbie? |
| 02:07.52 | HyperNewbie | hey, anyone know about kate/kwrite? |
| 02:08.06 | Stevie-O | I dated kate for a few weeks |
| 02:08.07 | HyperNewbie | Stevie-O: i made that name up :) |
| 02:08.16 | Ronin | adam_: reconfigure x? |
| 02:08.19 | HyperNewbie | kwrite is retarded when editing php |
| 02:08.28 | HyperNewbie | its like, up itself! |
| 02:08.30 | adam_ | ok ronin how do I do that? like what command |
| 02:08.33 | adam_ | I'm completely new |
| 02:08.46 | Stevie-O | One might argue that the person writing in php is the retarded one :) |
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| 02:08.48 | HyperNewbie | every time i do a { it puts it at the start of the line....anyone know how to fix that? |
| 02:09.02 | Ronin | lets see if im sober enough dpkg -reconfigure xserver ? |
| 02:09.15 | dvs | Ronin: ha! |
| 02:09.18 | Stevie-O | no space between dpkg and -reconfigure |
| 02:09.34 | adam_ | ok I'm booting the laptop right now |
| 02:09.39 | Stevie-O | good luck |
| 02:09.47 | Ronin | not bad considering how man beer ive had :) |
| 02:10.11 | Ronin | even spelt reconfigure correctly |
| 02:10.17 | Ronin | spelled? |
| 02:10.27 | adam_ | wow, heh. |
| 02:10.31 | Stevie-O | both are ok |
| 02:10.41 | Stevie-O | spelt is old school |
| 02:10.47 | Stevie-O | like spilt as in spilt milk |
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| 02:10.54 | Stevie-O | or, in your case, spilt beer |
| 02:10.56 | adam_ | ok now it's listening for an internet connect I don't have |
| 02:11.00 | adam_ | connection* |
| 02:11.07 | Ronin | Stevie-O: never ever :) |
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| 02:11.31 | Stevie-O | don't drink and drive |
| 02:11.45 | Ronin | hell i can barely drink and walk, cant imagine driving |
| 02:12.26 | adam_ | "-bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found" |
| 02:12.32 | Stevie-O | are you root? |
| 02:12.37 | Ronin | root? |
| 02:12.42 | dvs | beer? |
| 02:12.44 | Ronin | as in are you? |
| 02:13.06 | adam_ | xserver is not installed |
| 02:13.07 | Stevie-O | i'm not root beer, no |
| 02:13.15 | adam_ | so that's my problem. |
| 02:13.19 | Stevie-O | the package is 'xserver-xfree86' or 'xserver-xorg' |
| 02:13.22 | Ronin | adam_: at least part of it |
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| 02:13.32 | Stevie-O | not just 'xserver' |
| 02:13.35 | adam_ | oh ok |
| 02:13.39 | adam_ | lemme run it again |
| 02:13.50 | Stevie-O | i want a sexserver |
| 02:14.01 | Stevie-O | sexserver-sexfree69 |
| 02:14.05 | adam_ | well xfree86 is installed |
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| 02:14.45 | dvs | Stevie-O: I prefer sex.org |
| 02:14.53 | Stevie-O | sexserver-sexorg |
| 02:15.20 | us0r | is there a package for debian that installs an sftp client, or is there some way I can use the stock ssh client for sftp? |
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| 02:16.29 | dli | us0r, sftp is within the " ssh " package |
| 02:16.33 | Stevie-O | openssh-client |
| 02:16.38 | Stevie-O | the openssh-client package |
| 02:16.50 | Drakeson | I know your time is extremely valuable and I have to go read the documentations, but can you please provide me a good /etc/apt/source.list for unstable. thanks in advance |
| 02:17.00 | adam_ | ok it's asking me where my mouse is located but I have a touchpad |
| 02:17.02 | Drakeson | :D |
| 02:17.03 | adam_ | it's a laptop |
| 02:17.20 | dvs | adam_: Which kernel? |
| 02:17.22 | dli | Drakeson, no question about unstable shall be answered |
| 02:17.24 | adam_ | so should I just use the default /dev/pcaux |
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| 02:17.42 | dli | adam_, always use /dev/input/mice |
| 02:17.43 | dvs | adam_: /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice |
| 02:17.49 | adam_ | ok |
| 02:17.52 | us0r | it says it doesn't exist (my package list is current) |
| 02:18.00 | dli | adam_, unless you are using 2.4 kernel |
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| 02:18.22 | Stevie-O | Drakeson: apt-setup |
| 02:18.40 | Stevie-O | it's not that, what is it |
| 02:18.43 | Stevie-O | somebody told me once |
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| 02:19.21 | adam_ | ok... I ran the xserver config |
| 02:19.27 | adam_ | now how do I start X? |
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| 02:19.34 | Kinks | wow.. I just realised how huge this channel's ban list is |
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| 02:20.19 | chump | hey i use xchat to get mp3's the channel i use uses the @find is there a way to have the echo's come in private dialogue form instead of in the main window? |
| 02:20.30 | Stevie-O | ask in #xchat |
| 02:20.40 | Drakeson | honestly, I know it is important to read the docs, but somtimes just a pastebin does the job. (and probably makes the dumb questioner do away with his machine) |
| 02:21.15 | adam_ | so startx isn't working.. is there another command? |
| 02:21.16 | Stevie-O | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 02:21.20 | us0r | oh, ok everyone, i found the package. what I wanted was the package "putty-tools" |
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| 02:21.49 | Drakeson | Stevie-O: thanks. that's it. now I can figure out the rest |
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| 02:22.42 | Epilog | is it possible to tell a router to execute a program using snmp? |
| 02:23.06 | Stevie-O | you need to activate that feature with the secret code |
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| 02:23.09 | SkyBlueshoes | well, LILO worked, it's loading |
| 02:23.25 | SkyBlueshoes | thanks beardy |
| 02:23.33 | Epilog | Stevie-O: its that to me? |
| 02:23.33 | Stevie-O | Epilog: set edom.erucesni.yllatot to 1 |
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| 02:24.20 | adam_ | I'm thinking I should just try a re-install... |
| 02:24.34 | chump | hey i use xchat to get mp3's the channel i use uses the @find is there a way to have the echo's come in private dialogue form instead of in the main window? |
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| 02:25.02 | j23a | does anyone know why an 'ip route add default scope global nexthop via ...' wouldn't work with 2.6.15-1-486 ? |
| 02:25.51 | Stevie-O | !doesn't work |
| 02:25.51 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 02:26.13 | j23a | haha sorry, basicley setting up a debian box to have 2 WAN connections |
| 02:26.25 | Stevie-O | ok |
| 02:26.33 | j23a | followed the LARTC howto on how to do routing for multiple uplinks/providers |
| 02:26.46 | j23a | but i can't get it to load balance for the 2 wans |
| 02:26.54 | j23a | if i set 1 specific default gateway it will work fine |
| 02:27.03 | j23a | but when i try to do the load balancing part no dice |
| 02:27.25 | j23a | i get: From 10.10.90.251 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable and alternates withFrom 10.10.30.250 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 02:27.25 | j23a | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.43 | j23a | if i try to ping another address so it seems to go back and forth between the interfaces but isn't actually routing to them.. |
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| 02:28.36 | H2OyJaBoN | hi! how to mount a usb have problem... |
| 02:28.37 | H2OyJaBoN | ? |
| 02:29.13 | Stevie-O | j23a: those are the IP addresses of your interfaces? |
| 02:29.36 | j23a | stevie-o: yes they are the IP's of my interface as defined for eth1/eth2 but not the default gateway ips |
| 02:30.04 | Stevie-O | j23a: pastebin the output from 'ip route show' ? |
| 02:31.30 | j23a | stevie-o: http://pastebin.com/740544 |
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| 02:33.10 | webhed | hey all I have some ipod issues under ubuntu I could use some help with if I might ask here that is ? |
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| 02:33.39 | Stevie-O | j23a: can you ping 10.10.30.1 ? |
| 02:33.48 | j23a | yup |
| 02:33.53 | j23a | and same for 10.10.90.1 |
| 02:34.05 | us0r | where do I put my bash_profile and bashrc to have it work when I su to root? (it's already in the root directory and working for genuine root logins) |
| 02:34.30 | johnsu01 | us0r: you probably need to use su - |
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| 02:35.21 | us0r | johnsu01: "su -" didnt seem to change anything |
| 02:35.35 | Stevie-O | j23a: with my limited understanding, your config looks fine |
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| 02:36.23 | Stevie-O | j23a: what IP were you trying to ping that gave you the unreachables? |
| 02:36.34 | j23a | anything that's not on 10.10.30.x 10.10.90.x |
| 02:36.36 | j23a | ip route add default scope global nexthop via 10.10.30.1 dev eth1 \ |
| 02:36.36 | j23a | weight 1 nexthop via 10.10.90.1 dev eth2 weight 1 |
| 02:36.39 | j23a | crap sorry |
| 02:36.50 | webhed | Anyone know a lot about ipods under linux? Could use some help with some semi-complicated stuff. |
| 02:37.04 | Stevie-O | j23a: '$> ping anything that's not on 10.10.30.x 10.10.90.x' doesn't work well |
| 02:37.13 | Stevie-O | j23a: What IP were you trying to ping? |
| 02:37.45 | j23a | stevie-o: i was doing some tcpdumps and it seems like some eth1 (originating 10.10.30.x) traffic is appearing eth2 |
| 02:37.58 | j23a | steveie-o: anything that isnt on 10.10.30.x or 10.10.90.x |
| 02:38.07 | Stevie-O | Are you listening to me? |
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| 02:38.18 | j23a | stevie-o: yah iam, can you hear me? |
| 02:38.22 | Stevie-O | j23a: '$> ping anything that's not on 10.10.30.x 10.10.90.x' doesn't work well |
| 02:38.25 | johnsu01 | us0r: are you talking about .bashrc, or ,bash_profile? |
| 02:38.49 | Stevie-O | j23a: So I seriously doubt that was the IP you were pinging |
| 02:38.56 | j23a | stevie-o did irc block me? |
| 02:39.13 | Stevie-O | I dunno, did you tell me the IP? |
| 02:39.30 | bws42 | j23a he obviously wants you to tell him a specific IP |
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| 02:39.33 | us0r | both of them....specifically the one that sets the settings for the terminal colors (i forget which one that is, i'm just using files from another account) |
| 02:39.51 | j23a | stevie-o: 209.123.109.175 |
| 02:39.54 | johnsu01 | us0r: you won't get .bash_profile unless you are in a login shell |
| 02:40.07 | Stevie-O | j23a: Thank you. what's the output of 'ip route get to 209.123.109.175' ? |
| 02:40.27 | j23a | 209.123.109.175 via 10.10.90.1 dev eth2 src 10.10.30.250 |
| 02:40.27 | j23a | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.36 | us0r | ok, so my real question then would be how do you get the colors to show up in an su shell? |
| 02:40.45 | Stevie-O | j23a: That doesn't look right... |
| 02:40.47 | j23a | so that 10.10.30.250 on the end of htat line seems like kinda a mismatch |
| 02:40.53 | Stevie-O | agreed |
| 02:41.05 | j23a | the question now is, what's mixed up lol |
| 02:41.50 | johnsu01 | us0r: where are you expecting to see colors? by the way, su - does source /root/.bash_profile here. |
| 02:42.15 | Stevie-O | an excellent question |
| 02:42.34 | us0r | when i do an ls |
| 02:43.01 | johnsu01 | us0r: so, do you see color when you do ls --color=yes ? |
| 02:43.24 | Stevie-O | j23a: I have no idea what's wrong with your config |
| 02:43.33 | j23a | stevie-o: hahha thanks :) |
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| 02:43.45 | j23a | stevie-o: but we kinda found part of the problem |
| 02:43.52 | bony | !GPG |
| 02:43.52 | dpkg | i guess gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard, a free public-key encryption program available , now in main . or http://www.gnupg.org, but apt-get install gnupg |
| 02:44.20 | us0r | yes, i do |
| 02:45.02 | bws42 | j32a are you trying to follow this: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 02:45.04 | bony | who to force apt to install packages even when they are not authenticated? |
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| 02:45.23 | bony | i get this error when i tried to upgrade my system with apt |
| 02:45.37 | bony | it says that some packages could not be authenticated |
| 02:46.00 | Ronin | bony: that the real msg or? |
| 02:46.07 | us0r | <johnsu01>: yes, i do |
| 02:46.20 | j23a | bws42: yes that's what i've been following |
| 02:46.26 | bony | Ronin, yes that is the real msg |
| 02:46.41 | bws42 | j23a: did you also setup the split access? |
| 02:47.09 | bony | first it asked me that "Install these packages without verification [y/N]?" i said y |
| 02:47.16 | j23a | bws42: yes, then i continued onto the load balancing |
| 02:47.24 | bony | then it gave the above error |
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| 02:48.00 | johnsu01 | us0r: ok, so maybe add alias ls='ls --color=yes' to /root/.bash_profile? |
| 02:48.09 | zu22 | hi, i'm running Debian testing release with 2.4.27 kernel and i have an ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio (it's on the motherboard). how can i setup sound in Debian? what packages do i need and how do i configure them? |
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| 02:48.43 | bony | Ronin, After nearly 8 month's i am upgrading my system it was in sid at that time i even now :-) |
| 02:48.55 | bztunk | zu22: should work out of the box |
| 02:49.14 | bony | there are some 4000 new packages and 490 upgrades totaling to 750 MB |
| 02:49.50 | zu22 | bztunk: how? i never setup audio before, right now i have no audio, what must i do? |
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| 02:50.03 | zu22 | bztunk: i am using a Debian kernel image |
| 02:50.08 | Aid | I have a usb video capture device, is there any hope on it working on linux? |
| 02:50.34 | bony | dpkg, help on authentication |
| 02:50.47 | bztunk | zu22: the sound channels are probably muted |
| 02:50.51 | bztunk | zu22: try using alsamixer |
| 02:51.13 | us0r | <johnsu01> nope, no dice. it works for genuine root login, but not an su login |
| 02:51.56 | bws42 | j32a: it really looks like everything you've done is right |
| 02:52.31 | shogunx | Aid where there is a will, there is a way. |
| 02:52.43 | Aid | any suggestions? |
| 02:52.57 | j23a | bws42: yah i thought so too and i went over it 4 times, but that weirdness of how a eth1 address trys to get routed to eth2 probably is the issue |
| 02:53.05 | shogunx | Aid it could be as easy as modprobe'ing a kernel module, or as difficult as writing the same |
| 02:53.10 | zu22 | bztunk: i don't have alsamixer package |
| 02:53.19 | johnsu01 | us0r: test with /root/.bashrc too? |
| 02:53.21 | shogunx | Aid does the device show up in a lsusb? |
| 02:53.48 | bws42 | j23a: just for fun, what if you reverse eth1 and eth2 in the command to set the gateway? i.e. purposefully mismatch them |
| 02:53.50 | zu22 | shogunx: getting much better performance using wvdial.conf mode init string compared to pppconfig's default of just "INITZ" :-) much thanks |
| 02:53.54 | Aid | yes shogunx |
| 02:54.00 | Aid | Bus 004 Device 008: ID 06e1:0709 ADS Technologies, Inc. |
| 02:54.12 | Aid | im still rather new, and i dont know what to do with that |
| 02:54.14 | shogunx | Aid and have you google.com/linux searched for that string? |
| 02:54.30 | shogunx | zu22 great. i found that little trick handy myself. |
| 02:54.41 | zu22 | shogunx: i still get lots of stalls (disconnect/connect) when doing apt-get from http://http.us.debian.org/debian, would this go away if i tried an ftp repo? |
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| 02:54.45 | bztunk | zu22: install it? alsa-utils |
| 02:54.54 | zu22 | bztunk: ok thx |
| 02:54.55 | shogunx | zu22, quite passibly. |
| 02:55.01 | zu22 | shogunx: k |
| 02:55.02 | j23a | bws42: so i'd run ip route add default scope global nexthop via 10.10.90.1 dev eth1 \ |
| 02:55.02 | j23a | weight 1 nexthop via 10.10.30.1 dev eth2 weight 1 |
| 02:55.21 | shogunx | zu22, also, one of the other mirrors like kernel.org will have much more available bandwidth. |
| 02:55.29 | us0r | <johnsu01> ahhh....when I cp'd the profiles, i forgot to put in the leading . |
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| 02:55.34 | zu22 | shogunx: oh cool i will try that ! |
| 02:55.35 | us0r | <johnsu01> putting that in fixed it |
| 02:55.39 | Aid | yes shogunx i did try, can't get anything |
| 02:55.53 | zu22 | shogunx: btw you have a website? i always like to see websites of clueful debian users :) |
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| 02:55.58 | johnsu01 | us0r: that would do it. |
| 02:56.00 | bws42 | j23a: yeah, it seems backwards, but maybe something weird is happening |
| 02:56.24 | j23a | won't fly: RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable |
| 02:56.24 | us0r | heh....boy i feel stupid now. thanks for the help, johnsu01 |
| 02:56.24 | diazepam | does anyone have a good link that explains the in' and out's of using gstreamer? |
| 02:56.30 | shogunx | zu22 check gnuveau.net ports 80-82 |
| 02:56.36 | johnsu01 | us0r: np |
| 02:56.53 | shogunx | ;) |
| 02:57.12 | j23a | bws42: it won't always mess it up, it will only do it 'sometimes' |
| 02:57.41 | j23a | bws42: and doing the ip route get to 'non local ip' it never switches to the other gateway it only goes out via 1 gateway |
| 02:57.54 | Aid | any ideas on what i should do with my prob shogunx? |
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| 02:58.36 | shogunx | Aid this device: http://www.linuxchix.net/article.pl?sid=02/08/04/0234251&mode=thread ? |
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| 02:59.30 | bws42 | j23a: oh I thought it was happening all the time |
| 02:59.46 | j23a | bws42: but it's still not alternating gateways even when switching the ip |
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| 03:00.00 | Aid | shogunx: not exactly |
| 03:00.08 | Aid | It is DVDXpress |
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| 03:00.25 | zu22 | shogunx: cool~ |
| 03:00.41 | bws42 | j23a: did you have it working on a different kernel? |
| 03:00.56 | shogunx | zu22, thanx. |
| 03:01.17 | j23a | bws42: nope never have |
| 03:01.45 | Evil_Pink_Robot | hi guys, i'm having a problem logging in thru gdm, i can login via xdm or by just using startx, but with gdm when i login, i'm returned to the console, and then gdm starts up again. Other users can login via gdm. The .xsession-errors file says that it can't find Display 0, any ideas? |
| 03:02.55 | shogunx | Aid, well. we cannot tell what to do with the device without knowing what it is. |
| 03:03.23 | Aid | it is called 'DVDXpress Dx2' |
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| 03:04.36 | Epilog | is it possible to tell a router to execute a program using snmp? |
| 03:05.06 | zu22 | shogunx: how can i setup different web servers on the same machine the way you did? that is neat! |
| 03:05.14 | zu22 | shogunx: i have apache2 running on port 80 |
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| 03:05.48 | shogunx | Aid older ADS devices use bt848 drivers, it appears. |
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| 03:05.59 | shogunx | likely they have not changed that much. |
| 03:06.01 | Aid | how do i install something like that shogunx? |
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| 03:06.21 | shogunx | not saying that driver will work... but it would be a good starting point for development. |
| 03:06.25 | zu22 | shogunx: PPPPPP haha that is funny |
| 03:06.48 | Aid | after i even get that driver installed, which device in /dev do i use? |
| 03:07.09 | shogunx | Aid, you would have to either a) build yourself a kernel, or b) load the module if its already compiled. |
| 03:07.23 | shogunx | it might not work. its just a shot in the dark that they are still using that chipset. |
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| 03:07.56 | Aid | why would i want tyo rebuild the kernel its just an external usb device |
| 03:07.57 | shogunx | zu22, just set the port directive in your various apache configs. apache2 on 80, apache on 81, and thttpd on 92 here. |
| 03:08.21 | zu22 | shogunx: wall mounted computer! nice :) aren't you worried about dust and moisture exposure? |
| 03:08.33 | zu22 | shogunx: ah ok |
| 03:08.37 | shogunx | zu22, the port 81 site is the oldest on the server, dataing back to late '99 |
| 03:08.56 | zu22 | shogunx: wow |
| 03:09.03 | shogunx | zu22 not really worried about wither. i smoked like a chimney in that room too. |
| 03:09.18 | bws42 | j23a: sorry, but I haven't really found anything else that would seem to help your problem |
| 03:09.34 | j23a | bws42: thanks tho i'll continue to muck around with it :0 |
| 03:10.07 | shogunx | zu22, when i brought that port81 site online, it was shortly after having a flash monkey tell me i would never have a website again. |
| 03:10.09 | zu22 | shogunx: oh hehe |
| 03:10.19 | zu22 | shogunx: lol |
| 03:11.46 | shogunx | 2 years after i brought that online on a dialup and a falling apart toshiba 233 laptop, i found myslef at the internet engineering task force conference which was in atlanta that session. |
| 03:12.11 | shogunx | a week later i had a top floor corner window office in downtown atalanta;) |
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| 03:13.39 | shogunx | check that... 3 years. |
| 03:14.00 | kriel | any ideas why a PCI video card isn't showing up? It has been in since the start of install of etch... |
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| 03:16.36 | kriel | nvm... |
| 03:16.54 | Aid | thanks anyways shogunx |
| 03:17.02 | WhiteNoise | Can someone suggest something like ntop, but which would report over time which processes are using most CPU time, when, preferably with graphs and a web interface like ntop? Does this exist? |
| 03:17.37 | shogunx | Aid no problem. your best bet, if you are not up to coding the driver, is to loan it to an interested kernel developer:) |
| 03:17.51 | zu22 | shogunx: wow! |
| 03:18.30 | Aid | shogunx: back to windows i guess |
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| 03:18.54 | Aid | i did have a firewire one, but it just stopped wokring |
| 03:19.15 | Aid | im sad too |
| 03:19.18 | Aid | because it wsn't mind |
| 03:19.24 | shogunx | Aid sorry to hear that. i would just unload it on ebay and use a video capture device the ekrnel has support for. |
| 03:19.56 | Aid | yeah well, its my schools property |
| 03:20.07 | Aid | so im just going to give it back to her and say it worked well |
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| 03:22.37 | wolaoye | i have no mouse action after boot-up to the kdm login screen. it is ok after i do a alt-ctrl-backspace. this means that x is not started during boot-up. my default runlevel is 2. when i look at rc2.d, there is a S99xdm. is this sufficient to start x or is something missing? |
| 03:24.52 | sid | wolaoye: check your X logs |
| 03:25.59 | wolaoye | sid: i have looked at org.0.log. seems alright. what other logs to check? |
| 03:26.11 | wolaoye | i mean Xorg.0.log, |
| 03:26.16 | sid | wolaoye: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE |
| 03:26.26 | sid | wolaoye: Do you get any results from that? |
| 03:26.31 | nosklo | wolaoye, the kdm login screen shows up?? |
| 03:26.36 | wolaoye | sid: no error there. |
| 03:26.50 | wolaoye | nosklo: yeh. |
| 03:26.55 | nosklo | wolaoye, then X is up |
| 03:27.00 | nosklo | wolaoye, you just dont have mouse |
| 03:27.06 | nosklo | wolaoye, right? |
| 03:27.50 | wolaoye | i have looked at xorg.conf, mouse is on. |
| 03:27.53 | nosklo | maybe mouse is not being started at boot-up (not x) |
| 03:28.34 | wolaoye | nosklo: that would have shown up in syslog. |
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| 03:29.32 | dhuv | hello all |
| 03:29.42 | sid | !greet dhuv |
| 03:29.43 | dpkg | Gr33tz, dhuv |
| 03:29.44 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 03:29.44 | dpkg | from memory, tetrinet is multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
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| 03:30.06 | wolaoye | how to explain that alt-ctrl-backspace make the mouse work? |
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| 03:30.34 | kriel | any ideas on how to restart gnome without restarting comp? |
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| 03:30.59 | dhuv | I was wondering if anybody knows of a way to display the cpu temp and other related info? I though there was something like lmsensor but I cannot seem to find any projects by that name |
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| 03:31.18 | wolaoye | alt-ctrl-f1 followed by alt-f7 will work too. why? |
| 03:31.28 | dhuv | in the bios of my old 450MHz computer, I can see the current temp of the cpu and fan voltages |
| 03:31.35 | dhuv | but I cannot get any of this data in linux |
| 03:31.37 | kriel | dhuv: try lm-sensors |
| 03:32.09 | wolaoye | dhuv: try gkrellm |
| 03:32.15 | servus | I program my home computer, bring myself into the future. |
| 03:32.32 | dhuv | kriel: thanks, I feel like an idiot |
| 03:32.44 | wolaoye | servus: what is your future like? |
| 03:32.49 | dhuv | wolaoye: this is a server so I cannot use gui apps |
| 03:32.53 | dhuv | its a file server |
| 03:32.56 | servus | There's lots of beeping in the future, wolaoye. |
| 03:32.59 | kriel | dhuv: try this. 'apt-cache search [whatever]' :) |
| 03:33.28 | wolaoye | servus: beeping is low tech. |
| 03:33.56 | ansong | i have just tried updating my wife's computer to unstable from testing. x11-common is giving me an unusual error: http://pastebin.com/740595 |
| 03:33.57 | nosklo | wolaoye, do you have another video output on your card? |
| 03:34.22 | servus | wolaoye: I am the operator of my pocket calculator. I am the operator of my pocket calculator. I am adding, and subtracting. I'm controlling, and composing. I'm the operator with my pocket calculator, beep-boop-boop. I'm the operator with my pocket calculator. By pressing down the special key it plays a little melody. Beepbeepboopboopdoopdoopbeepbeep-zap. |
| 03:34.34 | kriel | anyway, i gotta crash, so... seeya later... |
| 03:34.36 | wolaoye | nosklo: not unless i add in another display card. |
| 03:34.57 | dhuv | kriel: I was searching in synaptic on my workstation |
| 03:35.08 | dhuv | but lmsensor returned something from gnome |
| 03:36.00 | nosklo | wolaoye, i have seen a notebook of a friend with the same issue, but only when you turn it on with another screen plugged in. |
| 03:36.37 | wolaoye | nosklo: i see, but such is not my case. it happens with only one screen. |
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| 03:39.03 | wolaoye | dhuv: i remember he said lm-sensor |
| 03:39.50 | sandmanV1 | anybody here using nagios with mysql/pgsql? |
| 03:40.47 | wolaoye | servus: u consider your pocket calculator a computer? and programming it to beep brings u to the future? |
| 03:41.00 | wolaoye | servus: u ain't seen nothing yet. |
| 03:41.47 | sandmanV1 | wondering if nagios monitoring box and nagios web/cgi can be on different machines in nagios-mysql scenario? |
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| 03:44.19 | dhuv | wolaoye: I meant I searched for lmsensor before I asked this channel |
| 03:44.35 | dhuv | after he told me about lm-sensor I found it right away |
| 03:44.43 | dhuv | thanks again |
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| 03:45.54 | wolaoye | got to go. bye |
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| 04:10.54 | ansong | http://pastebin.com/740595 any ideas on getting x11-common installed? i'm getting some error about /usr/include/X11 isn't a symbolic link |
| 04:11.46 | sid | ansong: What version of debian are you using? |
| 04:11.50 | nexis | ansong, have you tried to remove opera first, then install x11-common? |
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| 04:12.52 | ansong | nexis: yeah. i think the error you're thinking of is the one where /usr/X11R6/bin isn't empty so it won't symlink to /usr/bin. i've got that one covered. |
| 04:13.09 | ansong | sid: i'm upgrading from testing to unstable |
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| 04:15.04 | ansong | nexis: first dpkg complained that /usr/include/X11 didn't exist. so i copied X11 directory from a working install of unstable to the affected system. now it's complaining that the dir isn't a symlink. strangely, it's not a symlink on the working system |
| 04:16.36 | sid | !tell ansong about unstable |
| 04:17.30 | Nwallins|home | ansong: you could make /usr/include/X11 a symlink to the appropriate dir |
| 04:18.08 | ansong | Nwallins|home: any idea what i should do to find out what the appropriate dir is? |
| 04:18.24 | Nwallins|home | none :) |
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| 04:18.55 | matej_ | can anybody confirm that libxine1 with alsa is totally broken in /unstable? |
| 04:19.01 | Nwallins|home | mv /usr/include/X11 /tmp/X11; ln -s /tmp/X11 /usr/include/X11 |
| 04:19.13 | gary__ | i can't get my mouse to work in sid |
| 04:19.25 | matej_ | (tried amarok, kaffeine, and totem and all of them broke with the same error): |
| 04:19.29 | matej_ | kaffeine: relocation error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_rate_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
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| 04:20.14 | ansong | sid: yes, thank you. in my experience, barring big package updates like X11R6 -> X11R7, unstable is as stable as testing (if not more so) |
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| 04:20.49 | ansong | Nwallins|home: jeez, what a no brainer. thanks, i'll see what happens |
| 04:21.21 | Nwallins|home | ansong: i have doubts |
| 04:22.04 | Nwallins|home | maybe there is a good reason why dpkg is complaining? |
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| 04:24.36 | ansong | Nwallins|home: weird. after making it a symlink, i got the opera error. took care of it and the dist-upgrade is continuing... |
| 04:25.10 | ansong | so, uh. i'll see if /usr/include/X11 is still a symlink after all this finishes |
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| 04:25.56 | Mooner2 | has anybody here setup bootsplash for deb? |
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| 04:27.03 | jair | hello guys I am trying to open a group of ports ins anortel router vpn and I can :( |
| 04:27.06 | lindenl1 | How do i remove a bogus md device so I can reuse the name |
| 04:27.16 | jair | it have a telnet configuration tool |
| 04:27.24 | jair | and the commands are driving me crazy |
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| 04:28.07 | deadcat_ | lindenl1: try losetup |
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| 04:28.46 | SkyBlueshoes | which is better to use? POP3/IMAP daemon with Maildir support or the Unix mailbox format? |
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| 04:29.12 | gary__ | jair, commands become your frend :) |
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| 04:29.27 | deadcat_ | SkyBlueshoes: whatever fits you best |
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| 04:30.56 | lindenl1 | deadcat_:For an md (raid) device? |
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| 04:32.06 | SkyBlueshoes | well, what's the difference? |
| 04:32.23 | matej_ | Can anybody help me with this -- http://bugs.debian.org/369053 ? |
| 04:32.30 | SkyBlueshoes | will I loose any functionality by using the Unix format? |
| 04:32.39 | jair | gary__, yes though this thing is cool but I have to hurry |
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| 04:32.47 | jair | gary__, want to try helping me? |
| 04:32.52 | matej_ | that's totally broken libxine1 with alsa sink |
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| 04:40.07 | rvalles | I have two ext3s here I want to mark so that in next reboot they're fsck'd. How do I do so? |
| 04:40.18 | matej_ | hi, guys, once more can anybody help me with broken libxine1 and alsa sink (http://bugs.debian.org/369053)? |
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| 04:42.35 | mr-5150 | I'm having error messages upon starting up k3b |
| 04:42.39 | mr-5150 | it says Unable to find growisofs executable |
| 04:42.53 | mr-5150 | and Unable to find dvd+rw-format executable |
| 04:43.02 | mr-5150 | I have a dvd+rw |
| 04:43.38 | mr-5150 | anyone? know a solution to this? |
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| 04:46.00 | Rug | Anybody familiar with iptables & DSL? I have 3 different firewalls, all setup the same but one of them only allows about 50% of the websites I check to work. |
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| 04:46.34 | mr-5150 | why do you have 3 firewalls?? |
| 04:46.49 | Rug | 3 different netwworks |
| 04:46.53 | mr-5150 | i c |
| 04:47.08 | Rug | Actually 2 different clients, and my box here. =) |
| 04:47.17 | mr-5150 | sweet |
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| 04:48.09 | Rug | the /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/init.d/firewall files are the same |
| 04:48.31 | Rug | It's sweet when it works |
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| 04:49.28 | Vasistha | mr-5150: try apt-get install dvd+rw-tools |
| 04:50.13 | Vasistha | Rug: I'm not sure what benefit you would garner from having two different firewalls rather than one secure one... what is the advantage? |
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| 04:50.23 | mr-5150 | yes, i just did that right now and it worked |
| 04:50.25 | mr-5150 | :) |
| 04:50.53 | Vasistha | mr-5150: glad to hear it |
| 04:50.55 | Rug | Vasistha: it is for 3 completely seperate networks/cities/companies |
| 04:51.11 | Rug | 3 different boxes |
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| 04:51.27 | Vasistha | Rug: ...not on the same computer. Oh, I see... you're trying to figure out why the one won't let traffic through |
| 04:51.33 | Rug | yes |
| 04:51.38 | Vasistha | duh :-) |
| 04:51.49 | Rug | hence my confusion |
| 04:52.22 | Vasistha | Rug: does it work if you turn the firewall off? ...I mean, of course you don't really want to do that... but maybe for 30 seconds you can take a chance? |
| 04:52.46 | Rug | won't routing die if I turn it "off" |
| 04:53.23 | Vasistha | rug: it ought to be possible to turn the firewall off without turning the routing off... but again, this is a bad idea. There must be a better way to troubleshoot! |
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| 04:53.45 | servus | Rug: iptables -I INPUT 1 -j ACCEPT should "turn off" an iptables firewall |
| 04:54.00 | servus | If you want to undo what you just did, iptables -D INPUT 1 |
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| 04:55.10 | Vasistha | Rug: the other thing would be to plug another computer in on the unsafe side of the firewall, and see if it can connect... all I'm suggesting is to isolate the problem so you know it's a problem with that computer, with the firewall/router |
| 04:55.11 | Rug | ok I'll give that a try. |
| 04:55.12 | mr-5150 | thanks guys k3b is running smoothly! |
| 04:55.16 | servus | Note that routing is usually done through the nat table (-t nat), not the filter table (which is what iptables defaults to, and will display with an iptables --line-numbers -L) |
| 04:55.34 | Vasistha | killown: did you ever get your printer working? |
| 04:55.48 | killown | Vasistha yet no |
| 04:55.51 | mr-5150 | ok... this might be a stupid question.. but here it goes.. how can i enable my mouse wheel? |
| 04:55.57 | servus | Just keep in mind that the first command I gave you will turn your machine into a DMZ, and that the second command can possibly screw up your firewall! Save your settings with iptables-save > tempfile first. |
| 04:56.26 | Vasistha | mr-5150: not at all, it's in your X config file, something to do with Z axis... I'll look it up in a minute if someone doesn't pipe up off the top of their head |
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| 04:56.42 | Rug | Vasistha: I 'really' don't want to plug a MS box to an unsecure internet... I do understand your suggestion though. |
| 04:56.53 | mr-5150 | ok, cool,i'll wait |
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| 04:57.08 | Vasistha | killown: Do you know, does the device work, and you are looking for software? Or do you even know if the device is working with linux? Have you installed a driver? |
| 04:57.15 | Rug | servus: Thank-you ver much. I am not concerned, I do have my firewall scripted out. Thanks |
| 04:57.31 | Vasistha | Rug: well, maybe you can find a machine that's laying around, plug it in for testing, then reformat |
| 04:57.34 | killown | Vasistha nop |
| 04:57.57 | killown | i am looking for software |
| 04:58.06 | Vasistha | killown: so you have a driver that works? |
| 04:58.17 | killown | Vasistha nop |
| 04:58.18 | Rug | Vasistha: I'll have to be quick, what is it 3 minutes before a Windows machine can get compromised? =) |
| 04:58.36 | SkyBlueshoes | more like 2.5 min...lol |
| 04:58.52 | Vasistha | Rug: what does it matter if it gets compromised? That's the point... you can just test as long as you want, then reformat. |
| 04:59.11 | icyfire0573 | harsh; its 20 - 30 minutes for a windows machine |
| 04:59.21 | mr-5150 | :( man, thats bad |
| 04:59.24 | Vasistha | Rug: make it a computer you don't care about. And get a ghost image or something so you can restore it in five minutes |
| 04:59.28 | Rug | What is VERY wierd, I can ping a web-site (ie digg.com) but I cannot http it. |
| 04:59.43 | servus | pinging is different from HTTP requests. |
| 04:59.44 | Rug | Vasistha: yeah I know, funny all the same though |
| 04:59.58 | Rug | just a different TCP port ?! |
| 05:00.04 | Vasistha | Rug: oh, oh, yeah, that smells like a firewall issue ... or maybe actually a routing issue |
| 05:00.09 | icyfire0573 | outwards port 80 filtering? |
| 05:00.19 | servus | Rug: If you paste your iptables-save and put it on http://rafb.net/paste/ or something, I can take a look at it. Be sure to look for any private info before you paste it. |
| 05:00.21 | Rug | no, EVERYTHING outgoing is open |
| 05:00.22 | icyfire0573 | if its Windows you can have an invalid proxy / bad proxy setup |
| 05:00.23 | Vasistha | killown: I think the first thing to do is find a driver. The software does not matter if you do not have a working driver. |
| 05:00.50 | killown | of course |
| 05:00.54 | Rug | icyfire0573: great suggestion, I'll check that one. There is no proxy, but some idiot might have been ffooling around |
| 05:00.57 | Vasistha | mr-5150: are you on sarge, etch, or sid? |
| 05:01.06 | mr-5150 | sarge all the way! |
| 05:01.07 | servus | Rug: But the ping can't get back in if INPUT is misconfigured |
| 05:01.10 | Vasistha | mr-5150: ...and 2.4 kernel or 2.6? |
| 05:01.22 | Rug | servus: ping works |
| 05:01.24 | icyfire0573 | happens on windows all the time where shit sets up its own proxy to grab your info |
| 05:01.27 | mr-5150 | 2.4.27 |
| 05:01.53 | Vasistha | mr-5150: ahha, just like mine, then I can just tell you what mine looks like ;-) although I don't have usb setup, just a ps2 wheel mouse... but lemme get it |
| 05:01.55 | servus | *Shrug* Or www/tcp can't get in then. I'll leave the next step to you. |
| 05:01.55 | Rug | servus: give me a second to 'fix' the pastebin |
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| 05:02.12 | mr-5150 | thats what i have |
| 05:02.14 | mr-5150 | ps2 |
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| 05:03.03 | Vasistha | in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 there is a section "InputDevice" for your mouse. You need to add a line: Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |
| 05:03.23 | mr-5150 | ok i'll do just that |
| 05:03.25 | mr-5150 | brb |
| 05:03.26 | Vasistha | mr-5150: or if it's already there it might be commented with a # so remove the # to uncomment |
| 05:03.34 | Vasistha | mr-5150: then you will have to restart X |
| 05:03.41 | mr-5150 | ok i'll do just that |
| 05:03.46 | mr-5150 | brb |
| 05:06.29 | mr-5150 | ok this is weird |
| 05:06.32 | mr-5150 | Option"ZAxisMapping""4 5" |
| 05:06.37 | mr-5150 | thats what i have |
| 05:06.40 | mr-5150 | its not commented |
| 05:07.15 | mr-5150 | Option"Device""/dev/psaux" |
| 05:07.22 | mr-5150 | Option"Protocol""PS/2" |
| 05:07.31 | mr-5150 | Option"Emulate3Buttons""true" |
| 05:07.44 | mr-5150 | is this ok?? to be "true" |
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| 05:08.01 | dondelelcaro | mr-5150: please don't paste here. |
| 05:08.10 | mr-5150 | sorry. |
| 05:08.19 | dondelelcaro | mr-5150: but yes, that's fine. That just means that chording gives you the third button |
| 05:08.35 | mr-5150 | ok, then what seems to be the prob |
| 05:09.11 | dondelelcaro | mr-5150: what's the problem? |
| 05:09.13 | Vasistha | mr-5150: oh, try changing "PS/2" to read "ImPS/2" |
| 05:09.32 | gary__ | that;s it |
| 05:09.45 | mr-5150 | ok i did that now reboot |
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| 05:10.00 | Vasistha | mr-5150: also, check and see if there's another mouse input device -- or actually, check in the server layout section and make sure you are doing the right one |
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| 05:10.11 | Rug | servus: http://pastebin.com/740670 |
| 05:10.16 | dondelelcaro | mr-5150: you don't need to reboot, you can just restart the X server. |
| 05:10.18 | Vasistha | mr-5150: you technically don't need a reboot, all you need is to restart the X server... but it might just be easiest to reboot ;-) |
| 05:10.32 | dondelelcaro | mr-5150: ctrl-alt-backspace will do it for you... |
| 05:10.43 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: trying to get a wheel-mouse scrolling |
| 05:10.53 | mr-5150 | yup :) |
| 05:11.00 | dondelelcaro | Rug: what's the problem? |
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| 05:11.44 | Vasistha | killown: oops, sorry, lost track of your last comment, you didn't say my name so it didn't get highlighted :P |
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| 05:12.13 | killown | ok NP |
| 05:12.14 | mainframe | YES!! |
| 05:12.22 | Vasistha | killown: anyway... for such an unusual item, it might be very difficult to find a linux driver. I'm somewhat skeptical that anyone has written one. You might be stuck with windows ... or, you could try ndiswrapper |
| 05:12.24 | servus | Err? I just meant the output of iptables-save :) |
| 05:12.31 | Rug | =) 3 different networks. 3 identical firewalls & /etc/networking/interfaces files, 1 of them only lets 50% of http traffic through |
| 05:12.31 | mr-5150 | ok! |
| 05:12.33 | mr-5150 | :) |
| 05:12.40 | mr-5150 | i can scroll!! |
| 05:12.43 | mr-5150 | lol |
| 05:12.49 | Rug | servus: oops! |
| 05:12.53 | mr-5150 | you guys rock! |
| 05:12.56 | Vasistha | !enter |
| 05:12.56 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 05:13.04 | killown | yep Vasistha |
| 05:13.07 | mr-5150 | my k3b works and my mouse can scroll |
| 05:13.08 | Vasistha | mr-5150: glad to be of service! |
| 05:13.14 | mr-5150 | dude you rock!! |
| 05:13.28 | servus | On the trouble machine, that is. |
| 05:13.36 | Vasistha | killown: have you tried ndiswrapper ? |
| 05:13.38 | Rug | servus: ok give me a second |
| 05:13.42 | servus | I can read this, just takes longer and doesn't really represent the actual state of the firewall |
| 05:13.42 | Rug | or so |
| 05:13.59 | killown | Vasistha nop |
| 05:14.04 | dondelelcaro | killown: what device is this? |
| 05:14.12 | killown | i go try |
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| 05:14.21 | Vasistha | killown: ndiswrapper is software that allows you to run a windows driver from within linux |
| 05:14.37 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: it's a large-format printer for printing and cutting vinyl signs |
| 05:14.39 | killown | Vasistha cool |
| 05:14.59 | dondelelcaro | presumably just for cutting them, I'd imagine... |
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| 05:15.09 | Vasistha | actually, it's supposed to print and cut! |
| 05:15.19 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that's unusual |
| 05:15.38 | killown | i am downloading qcad |
| 05:15.52 | dondelelcaro | although, perhaps things have changed since last I was playing around with that sort of stuff |
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| 05:16.38 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: http://www.iehk.net/ ... the ICut Vinyl Sign Cutter Plotter (!) |
| 05:16.48 | Johnny_5 | i can't get my webcam to work |
| 05:17.37 | evilgeek | hm. |
| 05:17.44 | servus | Rug: I don't see anything in this file that looks too bad. |
| 05:17.51 | Johnny_5 | i keep getting an error |
| 05:17.53 | evilgeek | how does one migrate a computer's mailman lists to a new machine? |
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| 05:18.08 | Johnny_5 | i try using camorama |
| 05:18.29 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: want to paste it to pastebin ? And, have you been able to definitely connect to the device, does the kernel recognize it? |
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| 05:19.21 | Rug | you still want the iptables-save? |
| 05:19.23 | dondelelcaro | evilgeek: you just need your /var/lib/mailman and /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py |
| 05:19.29 | Johnny_5 | it tells me it could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). please check connection |
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| 05:19.40 | Rug | servus: you still want the iptables-save? |
| 05:19.43 | Johnny_5 | i can't copy it |
| 05:20.38 | Johnny_5 | not sure about the kernel.... |
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| 05:21.10 | Johnny_5 | i have not been able to connect to device at all |
| 05:21.21 | chino[lap] | lately my ip table goes slow as sh*t idk if it has anythign to do with installing asterisk |
| 05:21.26 | evilgeek | that's it? awesome. |
| 05:21.34 | servus | Rug: Sure |
| 05:21.36 | chino[lap] | ip table script |
| 05:21.55 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: let's see... I don't -really- know how to do this, but let's give it a shot. type lspci and see if you can find it in that list |
| 05:22.04 | Johnny_5 | k |
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| 05:23.45 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: nope not in there |
| 05:24.42 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: the other thing that comes to mind is lsusb ... you're probably connecting it on a usb port, after all |
| 05:24.52 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 05:25.27 | Johnny_5 | yep its there |
| 05:25.51 | Rug | servus: http://pastebin.com/740679 |
| 05:25.59 | Johnny_5 | want me to paste the results?? |
| 05:26.13 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: ahha, that's good, so the kernel sees it. So, have you installed any driver for it? I don't know if that will be necessary or not. |
| 05:26.36 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: well... you could -- at pastebin.com , that is. But -I- won't know what to do with them... |
| 05:26.38 | Johnny_5 | not sure...i forget...let me see |
| 05:26.47 | Johnny_5 | oh ok |
| 05:27.59 | servus | Rug: This is the problem machine? |
| 05:28.05 | Rug | yes |
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| 05:28.44 | servus | When you say 50% of web traffic, do you mean 50% of sites, or 50% of traffic with one site? |
| 05:28.50 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: I'm still trying to figure out what to do ;-) |
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| 05:29.18 | Johnny_5 | heh |
| 05:29.27 | Johnny_5 | yeah i got it |
| 05:29.30 | servus | I don't see how it could be working at all, Rug, with your filter INPUT policy DROP. |
| 05:29.31 | Rug | 50% of sites. google works, but digg.com doesn't. Yahoo works, but slashdot doesn't. etc... |
| 05:29.33 | Johnny_5 | hang on brb |
| 05:29.58 | servus | Have you tried an iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT ? |
| 05:30.20 | SkyBlueshoes | that sounds like a nameserver problem to me |
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| 05:30.44 | Rug | SkyBlueshoes: BUT I can ping, and if I try using the IP addy, it still doesn't work |
| 05:30.53 | Rug | servus: no I haven't |
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| 05:31.17 | Johnny_5 | ok i'm back |
| 05:31.20 | servus | Try it? |
| 05:31.24 | SkyBlueshoes | are you resolving to this ip address? 64.191.203.30 for digg.com? |
| 05:31.51 | Rug | one sec. |
| 05:32.13 | Rug | SkyBlueshoes: yes |
| 05:32.39 | Rug | servus: one sec... |
| 05:32.59 | SkyBlueshoes | that is wierd that it allows some sites but not others...sounds like IE's security filter thingy where if they aren't trusted site it won't let you go there |
| 05:33.17 | Rug | My users are using Firefox |
| 05:33.28 | SkyBlueshoes | firefox has that too, I believe |
| 05:33.51 | servus | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.16 | Rug | servus: trying right now, slow link. |
| 05:35.11 | SkyBlueshoes | if it were windows, I'd say to try kicking it...that usually works |
| 05:35.16 | SkyBlueshoes | ;) |
| 05:35.17 | Rug | ack curl not installed, and Apt is fubar |
| 05:35.59 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: I know there's a way to figure out where the device interface should be, but I just don't know where the information is stored... |
| 05:36.54 | Rug | servus: your "iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT" does nto help |
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| 05:37.53 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: okay, here's an idea; this may be just a permissions problem. ls /dev/video0 -l |
| 05:38.04 | servus | You tried with curl? |
| 05:38.12 | Rug | ack curl not installed, and Apt is fubar |
| 05:39.13 | servus | Try telnet digg.com 80 and type "GET /" without the doublequotes, and press enter twice very quickly. |
| 05:39.33 | servus | That will at least see if it's a network or Firefox issue :) |
| 05:39.52 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: no such file or directory |
| 05:40.18 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: alright, that may be part of your problem. We'll have to make the device... |
| 05:40.25 | Johnny_5 | k |
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| 05:41.44 | Rug | servus: http://pastebin.com/740696 |
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| 05:43.02 | Rug | servus: Thank-you very much for your help. If you ever need a kidney or a toe-transplant, I'll be there for ya! =) |
| 05:43.15 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: alright, as root, go to the /dev directory |
| 05:43.22 | Johnny_5 | k |
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| 05:44.05 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: there |
| 05:44.06 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: mknod video0 c 81 0 -m 660 |
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| 05:45.04 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: chgrp video video0 |
| 05:45.09 | servus | Rug: Does that mean you figured it out? |
| 05:45.14 | clarity_ | hey... from the sarge install cd |
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| 05:45.31 | clarity_ | how can I mount the root fs to make changes to it? |
| 05:45.31 | servus | Try konqueror or something? |
| 05:45.33 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 05:45.36 | Johnny_5 | done |
| 05:45.38 | Rug | no, just offering my thanks.... did you see the pastebin? |
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| 05:45.43 | servus | I did :) |
| 05:45.50 | Rug | what does it mean? |
| 05:45.57 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: is that it? |
| 05:46.05 | Rug | I feel like an idiot todatt |
| 05:46.10 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: almost, we need to make sure your user has permission to use the video group |
| 05:46.12 | Rug | ack... today. hehe |
| 05:46.13 | servus | lima... I know a horribly misconfigured Debian machine called lima... |
| 05:46.19 | Johnny_5 | heh |
| 05:46.19 | Johnny_5 | ok |
| 05:46.31 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: what is your user called? Suppose it's johnny. groups johnny |
| 05:46.38 | servus | Looks like it might actually be Firefox after all, though I haven't ever seen Firefox configured like that. |
| 05:46.40 | SubStack | I know a capital called lima |
| 05:46.42 | Rug | servus: coincidence ? |
| 05:46.46 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: k |
| 05:46.57 | servus | Hmm. Sell baby furniture? :) |
| 05:47.16 | Rug | servus: I have teh same problem with IE |
| 05:47.38 | clarity_ | does anyone know? |
| 05:47.49 | sid | Is there a way to turn on apt-get/dpkg logging...so I can see everything it does for a couple month period? |
| 05:49.12 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: what groups is your user in? You can paste the line into the channel, it should just be one line |
| 05:49.58 | Rug | servus: judging from that output that I get from telnet, I'd say the server is killing the connection. Is that correct? |
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| 05:50.22 | Vasistha | clarity_: uhm, I don't quite understand what you want to do, let me rephrase it |
| 05:50.52 | Vasistha | clarity_: you want to use a sarge install cd to get yourself into an environment where you can manipulate the fs? |
| 05:50.55 | clarity_ | after installing deb 3.1 w/ the 2.6 kernel some of the modules lock up my box |
| 05:51.01 | clarity_ | yah |
| 05:51.08 | clarity_ | so I can disable the module from loading |
| 05:51.18 | Vasistha | clarity_: hmm, have you tried booting single user mode? |
| 05:51.27 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: nix0r : nix0r dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev |
| 05:51.36 | clarity_ | hrm how do I do that with lilo? |
| 05:51.39 | servus | Rug: Hold on |
| 05:52.04 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: excellent, your user is already a member of the video group. You no longer need to be root. Let's try running the camera app again... |
| 05:52.24 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: k |
| 05:52.26 | Vasistha | clarity_: just append the word "single" to the "kernel" line ... I think that's how it's done |
| 05:52.27 | Peterken | Hello all, i there a way to make a certain folder on the file system 'not' case sensitive? I think not, but i'm asking to be 100% sure |
| 05:52.34 | Peterken | *i = is |
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| 05:52.47 | Vasistha | Peterken: I don't think so |
| 05:52.56 | Vasistha | away... |
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| 05:53.21 | Peterken | ok thanks |
| 05:53.24 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: do i need to log out then back in for it to work? |
| 05:53.31 | servus | Rug: Copy this to a notepad program, converting the <CR>'s into new lines, then paste it into telnet digg.com 80 GET / HTTP/1.1<CR>Host: www.digg.com<CR><CR><CR> |
| 05:53.36 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: shouldn't need to |
| 05:53.41 | servus | That should get you the actual home page for digg |
| 05:53.41 | Johnny_5 | oh |
| 05:53.56 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: hmmm.... |
| 05:54.04 | servus | If you get a whole mess of HTML, then it's a problem with your browser |
| 05:54.30 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: still got the same error |
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| 05:54.54 | servus | Actually, does the problem occur on the client machines, or on the server/router that you are testing from? Try to do an iptables -I FORWARD 1 -p tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT and iptables -I FORWARD 1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT |
| 05:54.55 | simonrvn | yes you do need to log out for user/group changes |
| 05:54.56 | dderr | anyone know how to make a regex work across a line boundry |
| 05:55.22 | servus | dderr: In sed, you can use the N command to append the next line into the current pattern space, and operate on the newline therein |
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| 05:55.33 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: d'oh! hmmm. Any more detail on that error? |
| 05:55.50 | dderr | servus: cool |
| 05:56.17 | clarity_ | okay I got it to a shell |
| 05:56.21 | clarity_ | where is ohci started? |
| 05:56.31 | Vasistha | Peterken: just curious, why would you want to do that? |
| 05:56.53 | Vasistha | clarity_: somewhere, there is a blacklist of modules -not- to start at boot time |
| 05:56.55 | deadcat | is this bad? usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| 05:57.06 | deadcat | i just plugged in my digi cam |
| 05:57.12 | Vasistha | deadcat: well, it's not bad like "kernel panic" |
| 05:57.18 | clarity_ | where is it Vasistha ? |
| 05:57.24 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: could not connect to video device (/dev/video0. please check connection. |
| 05:57.46 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: that is the whole error message |
| 05:57.59 | Peterken | Vasistha: I have no idea, one of my customers askes me that, and i'm about 99,9% sure that that's impossible, but via google & this channel i want to make i'm 100% sure :) |
| 05:58.07 | deadcat | maybe its just the gphoto2 lib.. |
| 05:58.15 | Rug | servus: did you want me to try the telnet command from a client box or the firewall? |
| 05:58.44 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: alright, it's not a permissions problem, /dev/video0 does exist in the device tree, and the kernel sees the device... last thing to check is that the kernel is making the device available at /dev/video0 |
| 05:58.56 | Vasistha | clarity_: just a minute... |
| 05:59.23 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: ok |
| 05:59.52 | servus | Rug: Whereever you have the problem. |
| 06:00.12 | clarity_ | thanks vasistha |
| 06:00.14 | Rug | servus: the IPtables didn't fix it. |
| 06:00.20 | Vasistha | clarity_: perhaps /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 06:00.54 | servus | You'll have to do some standard sort of troubleshooting then, Rug...; |
| 06:00.54 | Vasistha | Peterken: heh, bizarre. Maybe he has a web site and he wants people to be able to access it case-insensitively |
| 06:00.55 | clarity_ | that file doesn't exist... |
| 06:01.26 | Vasistha | Peterken: of course, maybe it's possible for apache to make that possible, if it is indeed a web thing. But the linux file system IS case sensitive, period. |
| 06:01.50 | servus | Strange, I don't seem to have a mkfs.linux : o0 |
| 06:02.02 | Vasistha | clarity_: I don't know the format for it or anything. why don't you google.com/linux for module blacklist |
| 06:02.03 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 06:02.15 | Peterken | Vasistha: you are totally wright :-) linux file system is case sensitive :-) |
| 06:02.19 | Vasistha | servus: hehe |
| 06:02.28 | Rug | servus: thanks for your help |
| 06:03.08 | servus | Rug: I would try using the more advanced telnet command I gave to check for software problems on your client, then check the same thing on the server, and if only the server/router can get through, it's probably in your dnat routing |
| 06:03.20 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: so how do i do that? |
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| 06:03.33 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: I've been wondering the same thing for the past half hour or so ;-) |
| 06:03.44 | Johnny_5 | heh |
| 06:03.53 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: although it actually couldn't hurt to ls -l /dev/video0 just to make sure that's proper |
| 06:04.02 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 06:04.18 | servus | You could use mod_rewrite to make Apache process files case-insensitively |
| 06:04.24 | servus | However, you're probably better off using mod_spell to do that. |
| 06:04.25 | Rug | servus: thanks again. Very kind of you to spend so much time trying to help. |
| 06:04.30 | servus | Good luck, Rug. |
| 06:04.49 | simonrvn | mod_speling (yes, that's spelled that way) |
| 06:04.51 | clarity_ | thanks I got it |
| 06:04.56 | clarity_ | hopefully it boots right |
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| 06:05.06 | Vasistha | clarity_: nice. although... it seems to me like ohci sounds like something important |
| 06:05.26 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: http://pastebin.com/740707 |
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| 06:06.03 | clarity_ | yah it keeps on getting killed on bboot |
| 06:06.04 | clarity_ | it sucks |
| 06:06.15 | clarity_ | hrm |
| 06:06.22 | clarity_ | it was uhci maybe |
| 06:06.31 | clarity_ | well now uhci is holding it up |
| 06:06.31 | Vasistha | clarity_: so that didn't fix it, huh? darn. well, keep tryin' |
| 06:06.52 | Vasistha | clarity_: my lsmod shows usb-uhci is an entry |
| 06:06.53 | SkyBlueshoes | try kicking it |
| 06:07.05 | Vasistha | hehheh SkyBlueshoes |
| 06:07.33 | clarity_ | yah |
| 06:07.39 | clarity_ | I'm going on 3 days |
| 06:07.43 | Rug | cool, I just 'discovered' that ctrl+p and ctrl+n work in xterm (bash) to scroll the Previous and Next commands.... |
| 06:07.53 | clarity_ | not 3 days |
| 06:07.56 | clarity_ | more like 9 rather |
| 06:08.06 | Vasistha | I actually once had a computer that only worked if you gave it a nice hard whack on its side. The hard drive had truoble getting started, it would get stuck in the stopped position, the motor wasn't strong enough. So if you gave it a whack, it could get going |
| 06:08.08 | Rug | SkyBlueshoes: I have noticed that Kicking is your default answer! =) |
| 06:08.11 | pipeline | Rug: lots of emacs commands work in modern shells |
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| 06:08.32 | SkyBlueshoes | yep, my all time fav... |
| 06:08.40 | clarity_ | it's weird ubuntu loaded perfectly fine |
| 06:08.45 | clarity_ | it must of used a diff kernel or somethng |
| 06:08.52 | SkyBlueshoes | specially for family that wants to bug you about stuff cause they think you're THE computer guy |
| 06:08.54 | Vasistha | clarity_: oh yeah, definitely a different kernel |
| 06:08.57 | Rug | That's an emacs thing? I 'thought' I had my irssi window active. |
| 06:09.17 | pipeline | Rug: As far as I know, it is. |
| 06:09.18 | clarity_ | does the 2.6 one deb use have a ton of problems or something? |
| 06:09.18 | Vasistha | SkyBlueshoes: they ask you for your computer help, and you recommend they try kicking it? hehe |
| 06:09.21 | pipeline | clarity_: Tried etch? |
| 06:09.32 | SkyBlueshoes | yes, Vasistha |
| 06:09.37 | clarity_ | what kern does etch have? |
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| 06:09.44 | Vasistha | clarity_: I dunno, it shouldn't be too bad. Have you tried 2.4? |
| 06:09.49 | pipeline | clarity_: Etch only has 2.6. 2.6 on sarge isn't a great idea :P |
| 06:10.03 | clarity_ | hrm |
| 06:10.06 | SkyBlueshoes | why's that pipeline? |
| 06:10.07 | Vasistha | pipeline: let's hear it for conflicting advice ;-) |
| 06:10.07 | clarity_ | how do I load it? |
| 06:10.11 | SkyBlueshoes | I'm running 2.6 on my sarge |
| 06:10.22 | pipeline | clarity_: In general, if you attempt to install sarge, and you run into hardware-related problems, the next step is to attempt etch :P |
| 06:10.29 | Vasistha | I set my brother up to run 2.6 on sarge, he needed the crypto |
| 06:10.38 | gary__ | 2.6.8 |
| 06:10.46 | pipeline | Vasistha: What sort of kernel crypto drivers could you possibly need? :P |
| 06:10.52 | Vasistha | clarity_: how new/old is your hardware? |
| 06:11.03 | clarity_ | Vasistha: I got 2.4 working fine but the e1000 driver has some trouble with my nic |
| 06:11.05 | Vasistha | pipeline: hard drive partition encryption |
| 06:11.11 | pipeline | Vasistha: Bah, stupid. |
| 06:11.12 | Vasistha | clarity_: d'oh! |
| 06:11.15 | clarity_ | yah |
| 06:11.29 | clarity_ | I guess there's issue with it through the 2.6.16 kernel |
| 06:11.36 | clarity_ | it's a brand new laptop |
| 06:11.45 | Vasistha | pipeline: well, you can't possibly know our situation, so your judgement of its necessity is your own business :-) |
| 06:11.50 | clarity_ | toshiba m100 |
| 06:12.11 | Vasistha | clarity_: brand new? a 2.6 kernel would be better, probably. |
| 06:12.23 | clarity_ | how do you load etch? |
| 06:12.36 | clarity_ | is there a diff install cd/ |
| 06:13.04 | gary__ | testing cd |
| 06:13.22 | Vasistha | clarity_: well... does your nic work at all with 2.4, or you have no network whatsoever? |
| 06:13.43 | clarity_ | I got wifi to work through the madwifi 3rd party |
| 06:13.50 | clarity_ | but I need wired for work |
| 06:14.41 | Vasistha | clarity_: well, you could probably download an etch kernel with apt-get, that would probably be the easiest way to get it |
| 06:15.06 | clarity_ | what kern does etch have? |
| 06:15.18 | pourriture_ | Vasistha, hello |
| 06:15.19 | Vasistha | clarity_: oh, and the other thing to do would be to download an updated sarge 2.6.8, one more recent than the install cd provided |
| 06:15.31 | Vasistha | clarity_: in fact, have you done an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade yet ? |
| 06:15.38 | Vasistha | pourriture_: good evening! |
| 06:15.55 | clarity_ | I can't boot sarge :-\ |
| 06:15.59 | clarity_ | err 2.6.8 |
| 06:16.22 | clarity_ | I was running 2.4 and did apt-get install 2.6.18 |
| 06:16.28 | Vasistha | clarity_: well, you can boot it in 2.4, right? |
| 06:16.29 | clarity_ | then I couldn't boot at all :-\ |
| 06:17.09 | Vasistha | clarity_: oh, well, does lilo still have the older boot configurations in it? You didn't explicitly remove the 2.4 kernel, did you? |
| 06:17.16 | pourriture_ | clarity_, ... damn good thing that grub has the choice of booting to the previos kernel .. no? |
| 06:17.50 | clarity_ | well what happened was I had to del some other packages to install the new kernel |
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| 06:17.55 | clarity_ | so I did that |
| 06:18.02 | clarity_ | and it installed it |
| 06:18.10 | pourriture_ | Vasistha, .... llilo ... what is this ... last week? |
| 06:18.12 | clarity_ | but it'd break on boot into the 2.6 kernel |
| 06:18.21 | clarity_ | and with the 2.4 my wifi wouldn't work.. |
| 06:18.48 | Vasistha | pourriture_: I'm pretty sure clarity_ is using lilo, not grub |
| 06:19.07 | clarity_ | I used both |
| 06:19.12 | Vasistha | clarity_: yeah, but you probably didn't delete the kernel you were running, just some -other- packages |
| 06:19.15 | pourriture_ | Vasistha, I was just messing with you ... |
| 06:19.16 | clarity_ | it was weird it said I had to use lilo for 2.6 |
| 06:19.25 | Vasistha | pourriture_: hehe... |
| 06:19.35 | clarity_ | but I reinstalled anyways though |
| 06:19.37 | Vasistha | clarity_: uh, that's just weird. |
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| 06:19.50 | clarity_ | yah, it didn't make sense to me |
| 06:20.14 | clarity_ | is there a way I can find out what kernel is included in testing? |
| 06:20.25 | Vasistha | clarity_: I think it's 2.6.15 |
| 06:20.37 | clarity_ | hrm |
| 06:20.44 | Vasistha | clarity_: look on packages.debian.org do a search for kernel-image-2.6 |
| 06:21.01 | clarity_ | thanks |
| 06:21.54 | pourriture_ | seems to me that if it isn't in the kernel you are using that you could compile a module and load it |
| 06:22.21 | pourriture_ | but that is just me being silly |
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| 06:22.53 | clarity_ | dunno |
| 06:22.59 | Vasistha | pourriture_: yeah... well, the thing is, it's a brand new computer, it ought to run 2.6 ... but 2.6 is hanging on boot, perhaps while attempting to load some module |
| 06:23.20 | pipeline | Vasistha, clarity_ : Brand new machine? Then yes, time to try etch instead. |
| 06:23.52 | SkyBlueshoes | was getting a grub error 18 |
| 06:24.08 | Vasistha | what's up with that? weird. I'm able to boot 2.6.8 from grub... oh well, who knows |
| 06:24.28 | SkyBlueshoes | probably my old bios and the newer harddrive |
| 06:24.50 | SkyBlueshoes | want in one hand and well, you know how that goes |
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| 06:25.15 | pourriture_ | actually 3 brand new machines would be even better |
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| 06:25.23 | SkyBlueshoes | why stop there? |
| 06:25.53 | SkyBlueshoes | how do you know what shell you're using? |
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| 06:26.19 | clarity_ | has anyone tried using sid? |
| 06:26.29 | clarity_ | how unstable is it? |
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| 06:26.35 | pourriture_ | SkyBlueshoes, cause my wife keeps installing FreeBSD on all the boxen that I can't admin myself |
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| 06:26.57 | SkyBlueshoes | lol |
| 06:27.02 | pourriture_ | clarity_, pornview doesn't work in sid |
| 06:27.02 | netman1 | Hi All. What are general terms to describe long term monitoring (e.g. cpu load over days) and short term monitoring (hey, the cpu is overloaded)? |
| 06:27.11 | howitz | hi, what command will tell me the runlevel that the system is currently at? |
| 06:27.18 | netman1 | howitz: who -r |
| 06:27.22 | pourriture_ | and pornview is too cool to miss out on |
| 06:27.23 | Hydroxide | howitz: or /sbin/runlevel |
| 06:27.23 | howitz | thks |
| 06:27.31 | howitz | thks |
| 06:28.18 | clarity_ | yah I'm looking at it now |
| 06:28.53 | dirakx | hi everyone |
| 06:29.01 | bluestrain | netman1: short term-alarm long term: trend |
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| 06:29.10 | recognizer | Hello |
| 06:29.15 | clarity_ | man I hope etch works... I still have a linksys I need to stick linux on before I move to berk |
| 06:29.23 | howitz | netman1: fr 'who -r', there is last=S. what does it mean? |
| 06:29.26 | netman1 | bluestrain: Thanks! |
| 06:29.48 | Vasistha | clarity_: huh, those almost sound like the words of someone who lives in los angeles |
| 06:29.57 | netman1 | howitz: single user? |
| 06:30.03 | pourriture_ | SkyBlueshoes, it is a depressing thing ... wife got pissed about my linux fetish and she decided to take up freebsd and now she is 1337-er than I |
| 06:30.13 | dirakx | im looking for a softare that can manage times in telephone conversations |
| 06:30.19 | SkyBlueshoes | lol, pourriture_, that is sad |
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| 06:30.24 | clarity_ | Vasistha why do you say that? |
| 06:30.25 | SkyBlueshoes | (that's why you keep them in the dark) |
| 06:30.28 | howitz | netman1: i would think so too. thks. |
| 06:30.31 | bluestrain | There is no Los Angeles. I saw it fall into the ocean on really bad TV movie last week. |
| 06:30.31 | dirakx | can anibody help me...? |
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| 06:30.46 | dli | pourriture_, you two can meet each other half way, using gentoo-fbsd |
| 06:31.09 | Vasistha | clarity_: I've just had a lot of friends around here who have moved and gone back and forth between Berkeley and LA, often in a bit of a hurry with lots of stuff to do :D |
| 06:31.24 | clarity_ | oh |
| 06:31.25 | dirakx | where can i find softwre of this kind... to conect debian to a phone line..? |
| 06:31.29 | kviga | how does one get a more verbose output from the kernel compilation process |
| 06:31.33 | kviga | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.39 | pourriture_ | SkyBlueshoes, she read Cuckoo's Egg and actually got it ... not the story ... but the whole geek thing |
| 06:31.43 | clarity_ | I live about an hour and a half north of LA |
| 06:31.48 | Vasistha | dirakx: I just have no idea what to tell you! |
| 06:31.49 | clarity_ | I'm moving to berk in 3 weeks... |
| 06:31.50 | kviga | i wish to see the full command.. as -blabla -blabla arch/i386/math-emu.. |
| 06:32.13 | Vasistha | clarity_: ahha! I knew it :-) I debated saying "in or near" los angeles |
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| 06:32.24 | Vasistha | clarity_: have an awesome time. I love Berkeley. |
| 06:32.36 | clarity_ | yah, I'm stoked.. compsci :-) |
| 06:33.05 | clarity_ | I'm going to try to find a new job where I'm not doing windows stuff all day |
| 06:33.11 | Vasistha | bluestrain: no more los angeles? damn it! then where am I right now??? |
| 06:33.18 | dirakx | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.21 | clarity_ | especially now since sql2k5 crapped all over the place. |
| 06:33.43 | pipeline | Vasistha: A prison of the mind. |
| 06:33.46 | clarity_ | I have about 25megs of code to rewrite at my current job.. |
| 06:33.56 | clarity_ | all sql2k5/.net 1 |
| 06:34.19 | Rug | clarity_: use all caps, it makes it look bigger. Your boss will be impressed. |
| 06:34.26 | Vasistha | dirakx: do you mean... to make a modem work?? |
| 06:34.29 | Rug | =) |
| 06:34.55 | dirakx | Vasistha: i need a software to control a phone line |
| 06:35.03 | Vasistha | Rug: haha :-) |
| 06:35.10 | Vasistha | dirakx: "control"? |
| 06:35.56 | dirakx | Vasistha: to check for example the time that is expend in a conversation |
| 06:36.02 | Vasistha | clarity_: may I recommend the USCA student housing cooperatives as a wonderful place to live? if you can stand it... |
| 06:36.31 | clarity_ | naw, I got a 1bedroom for 1200/month |
| 06:36.32 | bluestrain | Vasistha: Don't worry, in the course of this movie, my current location was replaced with an inland sea |
| 06:36.34 | Vasistha | dirakx: are you saying you want to "tap" the line -- monitor what's going on, without having the modem or device actually take part in a voice conversation? |
| 06:36.52 | SkyBlueshoes | sounds like it Vasistha |
| 06:36.53 | clarity_ | I'm going to have some embedded boards laying around, and I don't want them to get stolen |
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| 06:37.27 | dirakx | no...i want to conect several phone lines to my computer and control them or supervise them |
| 06:37.38 | Vasistha | clarity_: yeah, if you need to secure your stuff, the coops are not always the best place for that. Once a server was stolen from inside a locked cabinet... |
| 06:37.44 | clarity_ | dirakx: maybe asterisk? |
| 06:37.57 | clarity_ | yah that blows |
| 06:37.59 | Rug | this is funny/sad. ManPage for apt: BUGS This manpage isn’t even started. |
| 06:38.12 | clarity_ | I have too much stuff for a co-op |
| 06:38.35 | dirakx | ok im gonna check that in source forge |
| 06:38.44 | Vasistha | clarity_: understood :-) I have a friend who has lived in the coops who really had too much stuff, it didn't work well, he was always having to move his stuff around, sometimes in storage |
| 06:38.47 | clarity_ | I have 2 laptops, 500gb externel harddrive,a p4 desktop, and a bunch of other stuff |
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| 06:39.31 | recognizer | clarity_: these software can i use in cafe internet? |
| 06:39.34 | Vasistha | clarity_: the thing is there tend to be cool linux geeks at some of the coops |
| 06:39.37 | SkyBlueshoes | I'll store that P4 for ya! |
| 06:40.09 | clarity_ | yah, one of my best friends is staying at a coop.. I'll hang around them |
| 06:40.12 | dirakx | Vasistha: do you know more software of this kind...? |
| 06:40.16 | clarity_ | I'm just not going to have my stuff in one |
| 06:40.43 | clarity_ | plus I'm going to goto the sf2600 :-) |
| 06:40.49 | Vasistha | dirakx: I really don't, I'm more of a catalyst for helping people clarify their questions so someone who knows pipes up... |
| 06:40.51 | clarity_ | there's a callug at berkeley |
| 06:40.56 | clarity_ | not sure if it sucks or not |
| 06:41.10 | clarity_ | they also have this OCF (open computer faculty) club |
| 06:41.15 | clarity_ | it seems pretty active |
| 06:41.24 | dirakx | ok thank you very much indeed |
| 06:41.27 | Vasistha | clarity_: actually, I think it should be pretty good. I mean, BSD came from berkeley, so did unix |
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| 06:42.04 | clarity_ | yah... and it use to be hacker mecca :-) |
| 06:42.08 | Vasistha | dirakx: I'm still trying to figure out exactly what you want to do... partially for curiousity's sake :-) |
| 06:42.19 | clarity_ | john draper and everyone use to live there |
| 06:42.54 | howitz | how to interpret the output of a diff command used on two files e.g. 3,4c3,4 or 6,9c6,12. |
| 06:43.09 | Vasistha | howitz: use kdiff3 or xxdiff ;-) |
| 06:43.23 | dirakx | Vasistha: the thing is that i cant make myself clear in this |
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| 06:43.48 | howitz | Vasistha: why? they give more explicit output? |
| 06:44.36 | Vasistha | howitz: it shows it graphically so you can just see the differences highlighted with the files side by side |
| 06:44.55 | pipeline | Vasistha, clarity_ : The fact that BSD came from berkeley is something I would be inclined to BURY UNDER THE RUG. Why admit that such a horrible product was spawned there? :P |
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| 06:45.09 | howitz | Vasistha: sounds good. will give it a try. thks. |
| 06:45.33 | kill-9 | hey i have a question, i installed windows, and i hade linux on my slave harddrive what can i do to recover the, grub, or i have to reinstall linux? |
| 06:45.35 | clarity_ | bsd rox |
| 06:46.01 | Vasistha | pipeline: I dunno... I think a lot of people like BSD, and I'd imagine there are at leat a few good reasons for it |
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| 06:46.58 | Vasistha | kill-9: oh, you just need to reinstall grub because windows overwrote the MBR |
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| 06:47.16 | kill-9 | Vasistha how can i do that? |
| 06:47.33 | clarity_ | bsd is a really good server os |
| 06:47.46 | Vasistha | kill-9: a linux livecd or recovery cd, and bootable linux disk ... or even just grub disks, rather, download the grub disks and use those to reinstall grub |
| 06:47.47 | pipeline | Vasistha: Lots of people enjoy Schlitz beer and Cheetos. |
| 06:47.52 | clarity_ | it's okay for desktop but linux has more stuff for it |
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| 06:48.15 | Vasistha | pipeline: that's true, so there must be something good about them, right? I'm not going to say they're healthy or taste good, but there must be something... |
| 06:48.22 | pipeline | Vasithia, clarity_: Linux, 4BSD, and the modern BSD derivatives are all utterly brain-damaged. Don't drink the koolaid, folks. |
| 06:48.29 | kill-9 | Vasistha can i do it, with knoppix? |
| 06:48.38 | pipeline | Vasistha: Nope. The american pilsners pretty much suck shit. Through a straw. Slowly. |
| 06:48.52 | Vasistha | kill-9: I hope so, you ought to be able to. knoppix ought to have a grub installer on it |
| 06:49.13 | clarity_ | what don't you like about bsd? |
| 06:49.16 | pipeline | Vasistha: The folks who drink american pilsner and call it their favorite have been pissed on and told its raining. Much like your novice outlook on UNIX. |
| 06:49.20 | Vasistha | pipeline: well, like I said, it's not like they're healthy or taste good... |
| 06:49.21 | pipeline | clarity_: It's UNIX. And all UNIX is awful. |
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| 06:49.53 | Vasistha | pipeline: why do you care? nothing's perfect, people find something they like that suits their needs, and they use it |
| 06:49.56 | dirakx | Vasistha: i am trying to Know how much time is expended in a call, if i make an interface with my computer and several telephone lines |
| 06:49.56 | dli | pipeline, BSDs are quite good |
| 06:50.05 | pipeline | Vasistha: There's "not perfect", and then there's just godawful. |
| 06:50.09 | pipeline | Vasistha: You will understand in time. |
| 06:50.21 | pipeline | Vasistha: As you run into brain-damaged and downright stupid design errors that permeate modern UNIX :P |
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| 06:50.28 | dirakx | Vasistha: i need a software to do that.... |
| 06:50.54 | Vasistha | pipeline: well, I've only used linux, so maybe I will, maybe not. I do understand that there are an awful lot of horrible flaws in -all- operating systems in existence... |
| 06:51.06 | Vasistha | dirakx: how will the phone lines be connected to the computer? |
| 06:51.34 | Vasistha | dirakx: will the calls be placed as VOIP? Will the phone lines somehow go through a modem-like device that can monitor calls? |
| 06:51.53 | Vasistha | clarity_: anyway, having any luck with that 2.6? |
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| 06:52.02 | clarity_ | thanks |
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| 06:53.40 | Vasistha | dirakx: ...and, I think foremost you need hardware to do what you are talking about, and then you need a driver. Then we can talk about software... |
| 06:53.53 | dirakx | Vasistha: i have i device that adquires the phone data and conects to the serial port of the computer |
| 06:54.14 | dirakx | VAsistha: ok |
| 06:54.25 | Vasistha | dirakx: ahha! that is wonderful information to know! Do you have a driver for it that works in linux? |
| 06:55.16 | dirakx | Vasistha: no the thing is that i have only see that working in windows |
| 06:55.52 | dirakx | Vasistha: but i want to make that for my debian |
| 06:55.56 | Vasistha | dirakx: what is the name of the device that acquires the data and connects to the serial port? |
| 06:56.17 | clarity_ | dirakx: write it with asterisk |
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| 06:56.26 | clarity_ | it'll be cheaper to run and easier to write |
| 06:56.29 | fisrado | Hi, I have a partitioning problem. I have 3 primary partitions, hda2, hda3 and hda4, hda4 is a swap partition, hda2 is slckware and hda3 is debina. I am left with @ 20 gb of free space where I want to make another partition for my data. But everytime I partition it, it is not recognised by the system even if i make it logical or primary. How can i use my free space without deleting all partitions |
| 06:56.54 | Vasistha | fisrado: what happened to hda1 ?? |
| 06:57.02 | fisrado | :d |
| 06:57.10 | Vasistha | fisrado: you ate it? |
| 06:57.14 | Vasistha | fisrado: hehe j/k |
| 06:57.41 | fisrado | hda1 was supposed to be swap earlier .. during my partitioning i ended up deleting amd making swap again and got hda4 as hda1 |
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| 06:58.39 | Vasistha | fisrado: why don't you do (as root) fdisk -l /dev/hda and paste it to pastebin |
| 06:58.54 | fisrado | #pastebin |
| 06:58.58 | fisrado | ?? |
| 06:58.59 | howitz | I have 2 systems running on different ver of kernel and their /etc/rc2.d/S99stop-bootlogd files are different. is this normal? |
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| 06:59.30 | Vasistha | !paste |
| 06:59.31 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 07:00.00 | Vasistha | fisrado: that's what I mean by pastebin -- channels.debian.net/paste or pastebin.com |
| 07:01.29 | fisrado | http://pastebin.com/740746 |
| 07:01.48 | Vasistha | okay, let's see what we have here... |
| 07:03.00 | fisrado | wow .. i got like 60 gb extra hdd space .. :D i donna know that |
| 07:03.43 | fisrado | Vasistha, should i paste cfdisks o/p |
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| 07:04.09 | Vasistha | fisrado: why don't you delete the swap partition and try again? |
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| 07:04.45 | fisrado | okie .. just a min ... i will delete the swap partition and make it logical |
| 07:04.54 | fisrado | is that what you are suggesting ? |
| 07:04.55 | Vasistha | fisrado: before you do that, swapoff |
| 07:05.43 | Vasistha | fisrado: but yeah... well, how do you want to set this up? I would suggest using cfdisk and partitioning the whole drive, however you want to do that... |
| 07:06.00 | fisrado | using cfdisk .. |
| 07:06.37 | fisrado | i want two partitions hda3 and hda2 to remain intect ... one extra hdd partition for data which can be comman to both and a partition for evil o/s |
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| 07:07.11 | fisrado | i can not delete the existing slack and debian partitions ... will have a lot to restore |
| 07:07.15 | Vasistha | fisrado: okay, well the evil OS is supposed to go on hda1 |
| 07:07.32 | fisrado | darn ,,, how do i do that ? |
| 07:07.36 | Vasistha | fisrado: ...and it should be a primary partition |
| 07:08.08 | howitz | what is the function of the script /etc/rc2.d/S99stop-bootlogd? a search in the web produces nothing useful. |
| 07:08.09 | Vasistha | fisrado: although technically it is possible to have it set up otherwise. come to think of it, maybe xp will be okay not being on the first partition nowadays... I'm not sure |
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| 07:08.41 | fisrado | :( ...i think i will do without evil partition |
| 07:08.49 | fisrado | :D .. VMware rockz |
| 07:09.25 | pipeline | vmware server is, indeed, the best thing ever. |
| 07:09.30 | toshiro | i've apt-get some php that i dont want, when i remove them, they still on my dpkg -l, how can i remove entirely the packages i dont want |
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| 07:09.58 | howitz | ok, the info is in the script itself. |
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| 07:10.16 | Vasistha | toshiro: you can remove them from /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 07:10.24 | toshiro | thanks |
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| 07:11.20 | fisrado | ggrr still not working out ... |
| 07:11.24 | gary__ | hello.. i have a qustion i'm running etch with gnome and cable for the internet do i need a firewall? |
| 07:11.30 | Vasistha | fisrado: you should study up on that, though, it may very well be possible for XP to boot from a non-primary partition. I have successfully used grub's map tool to boot windows 98 from, e.g., hdb3 |
| 07:11.43 | Vasistha | gary__: yes! |
| 07:11.50 | gary__ | ok |
| 07:12.04 | Vasistha | gary__: do you have a hardware firewall, like a router with builtin firewall for instance? |
| 07:12.17 | gary__ | no |
| 07:12.30 | fisrado | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.30 | fisrado | seems like i can use swap only on primary partition |
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| 07:14.43 | Vasistha | fisrado: that is definitely not the case, it is possible to swap on a logical partition |
| 07:15.14 | gary__ | Vasistha, what would be the best why to setup a good firewall? |
| 07:15.25 | Vasistha | fisrado: you might need to get the relevant line into /etc/fstab |
| 07:15.43 | fisrado | as you can see, I am setting swap on logical partition and after writing to partition table with cfdisk .. i am unable to do a swap on hda5 which is logical partition |
| 07:15.56 | Vasistha | gary__: there are a number of firewalls. I use guarddog, which is a nice gui interface to iptables |
| 07:16.09 | wireddd | so how well does picasa work? |
| 07:16.21 | Vasistha | fisrado: do hdparm -z then try again |
| 07:16.55 | gary__ | Vasistha, is firestarter good? |
| 07:17.04 | Vasistha | fisrado: after writing a partition table, you need to refresh the kernel's awareness of the partition table with hdparm -z |
| 07:17.31 | Vasistha | gary__: I've never used it, why don't you try it out... |
| 07:17.44 | fisrado | BLKRRPART failed: Device or resource busy ... thats the o/p of hdparm -z |
| 07:17.45 | gary__ | ok |
| 07:18.08 | gary__ | Vasistha, tu |
| 07:18.12 | Vasistha | fisrado: then reboot the computer, that is often what is needed after changing things with cfdisk |
| 07:18.22 | Vasistha | gary__: merci |
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| 07:18.47 | fisrado | okie ... i will reboot .. |
| 07:18.48 | fisrado | brb |
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| 07:28.09 | inetd | whats a good shell mp3 player? |
| 07:28.21 | Vasistha | inetd: mplayer |
| 07:28.34 | Halitherses | where do the shutdown sctpts live nd what are they called? |
| 07:28.55 | cahoot | inetd: mpg321 |
| 07:28.56 | Vasistha | Halitherses: /etc/rc6.d I -think- |
| 07:28.57 | inetd | any idea what player is in this screeny ? http://www.boxwhore.org/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16 |
| 07:29.24 | onetinsoldier | clarity: it's not that sid is Halitherses: they are in /etc/init.d... and they are both start/restart/stop scripts |
| 07:29.32 | onetinsoldier | oops |
| 07:29.40 | onetinsoldier | Halitherses: they are in /etc/init.d... and they are both start/restart/stop scripts |
| 07:30.02 | onetinsoldier | Halitherses: the /etc/rc.X scripts are symlinks |
| 07:30.14 | Halitherses | ok thanks I understand |
| 07:30.24 | onetinsoldier | yw |
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| 07:32.22 | fisrado | Vasistha, ok .. back with a reboot ... nope swap is not happening on hda5 which is a logical partition |
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| 07:33.21 | Vasistha | fisrado: is it configured in /etc/fstab ? |
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| 07:33.59 | fisrado | /dev/hda5 none swap defaults 0 0 |
| 07:34.10 | fisrado | thats what i have given in my /etc/fstab |
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| 07:35.18 | ice_1963 | Vasistha, i jest installed firestarter so far :) |
| 07:35.32 | Vasistha | ice_1963: lessee, are you gary? |
| 07:36.07 | ice_1963 | lol yes i am |
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| 07:38.22 | toshiro | how can i know which apache is running? |
| 07:39.08 | cahoot | toshiro: one way is to check apaches error.log |
| 07:39.44 | Vasistha | toshiro: another way is to call the phpinfo() function which will display a whole mess of info |
| 07:40.14 | Vasistha | ice_1963: so, have you figured it out? Probably a good idea to read some manuals or something, gtfw, ya know... |
| 07:41.21 | toshiro | when i try to look up phpinfo(), apache try to download the file, it means php is not interpreted, but as i 've installed through apt-get, i dont know what to look at? |
| 07:42.15 | ice_1963 | Vasistha, well it's installed i will see if it's good firewall or not |
| 07:42.34 | TraceGreen | Hello, How can i set kernel to use dma? i try : hdparm -d1 /dev/sda, but: HDIO_SET_DNA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device |
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| 07:43.07 | xixor | yo |
| 07:43.07 | cahoot | TraceGreen: comipled your own kernel? |
| 07:43.15 | toshiro | Vasistha, how do you install php5 on your computer? by apt -get or do you compile everything |
| 07:43.23 | Vasistha | fisrado: what happens if you swapon ... and cat /proc/swaps .. just to be sure |
| 07:43.34 | TraceGreen | cahoot, yeah |
| 07:43.39 | Vasistha | toshiro: if you're running debian, I definitely think you should apt-get |
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| 07:43.43 | cahoot | TraceGreen: ifthat's the case you missed out on chipset support |
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| 07:44.42 | toshiro | Vasistha, but i have remove packages and installed them again, it's a bit messy, i've read that when i 'try to remove modules they are not remove .etc....how can i get my php eliminated to restart with apt-get? |
| 07:44.42 | TraceGreen | cahoot, what do you mean? so , Can i recompile my kernel to support this chipset? |
| 07:44.55 | cahoot | TraceGreen: of course |
| 07:45.00 | Vasistha | toshiro: apt-get remove --purge |
| 07:45.12 | Vasistha | toshiro: also you can use deborphan to remove things it is dependent upon |
| 07:45.27 | cahoot | TraceGreen: I meant - you misconfigured your kernel |
| 07:45.55 | TraceGreen | cahoot, ok, so, Is it because i misconfig some item about dma? |
| 07:46.05 | fisrado | swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument |
| 07:46.14 | TraceGreen | cahoot, or some others such as sata? or my chipset? |
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| 07:46.21 | fisrado | Vasistha, and cat /proc/swaps returns null |
| 07:46.30 | cahoot | TraceGreen: IIRC there's a section about IDE chipset support |
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| 07:47.18 | Vasistha | fisrado: hmmm, weird. oh, I know, perhaps it needs to be configured as a swap partition !! |
| 07:47.32 | Vasistha | fisrado: let's see... what's that command... |
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| 07:48.22 | superlinux | !php |
| 07:48.22 | dpkg | well, php is #php or http://www.php.net/. Common installation methods include libapache-mod-php4(for apache1), libapache2-mod-php4(for apache2), php4-cli(CGI). PHP5 now in etch/sid |
| 07:48.26 | cahoot | TraceGreen: a submenu under ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support |
| 07:49.34 | cahoot | superlinux: still not understood how to msg the bot? |
| 07:50.30 | superlinux | cahoot, what should I do then? |
| 07:50.39 | Vasistha | superlinux: /msg dpkg |
| 07:51.02 | Vasistha | superlinux: then you can have your own private chat session with it ;-) |
| 07:51.08 | cahoot | superlinux: as told ca 12h ago |
| 07:51.13 | ice_1963 | :) |
| 07:51.57 | ice_1963 | well some time's i do lol |
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| 07:55.21 | TraceGreen | cahoot, yeah, i find it. |
| 07:55.32 | fisrado | Vasistha, i have reverted back to making swap on a primary partition ... and deleted the logical partitions i had created ... will give it a reboot to see if my swap works now |
| 07:55.34 | fisrado | brb |
| 07:57.41 | deadcat | i get this but not sure how to fix: mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
| 07:58.07 | sid | deadcat: I got the same thing |
| 07:58.35 | deadcat | sid: damn. latest kernel? |
| 07:58.44 | sid | deadcat: See my bugreport... --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369057 |
| 07:58.51 | sid | deadcat: It's because of libasound2 |
| 07:59.03 | sid | Just grab the old one from a couple days ago from http://snapshot.debian.net |
| 07:59.30 | deadcat | thanks |
| 07:59.40 | sid | The link is on the bug report link |
| 07:59.59 | deadcat | sid: luckily my archives still has -4 (= |
| 08:00.12 | sid | ahh, I see. |
| 08:00.15 | sid | deadcat: http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/05/20/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2_1.0.11-4_i386.deb |
| 08:00.21 | sid | either way snapshot it |
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| 08:00.41 | deadcat | sid: ya. i have it in my /var/cache/apt/archives/ thanks (= better hold it for now? |
| 08:00.43 | sid | I'm too obsessive compulsive...I have to apt-get clean everything I do anything. lol so my archive is empty |
| 08:01.09 | deadcat | (= |
| 08:01.19 | sid | deadcat: eh...no need to hold on to it. It's preference though. |
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| 08:02.33 | sid | !broken.mplayer.may26 |
| 08:02.33 | dpkg | broken.mplayer.may26 is, like, go here --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369057 |
| 08:02.45 | sid | deadcat: Give that to people who come in here and ask. |
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| 08:04.14 | deadcat | (= |
| 08:04.18 | deadcat | k |
| 08:05.45 | sid | j 5 |
| 08:05.54 | fisrado | Vasistha, no luck ... only works if I have swap on primary partition ... |
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| 08:06.15 | fisrado | after three primary partiotns ... logical partitions are not usable |
| 08:06.32 | toshiro | where can i find "libapache-mod-php5.0" but for apache2? |
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| 08:07.53 | Vasistha | fisrado: well, so far we haven't gotten swap working on a logical partition, but I am not at all convinced it's impossible. However, I am falling asleep... so I wish you luck hopefully a more capable person will help you soon! g'night |
| 08:08.14 | fisrado | thanks man |
| 08:08.15 | fisrado | :) |
| 08:08.25 | Johnny_5 | Vasistha: any luck figuring out my webcam issue?? |
| 08:08.29 | fisrado | no probs .. i will see what i can do to resolve this problem |
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| 08:09.31 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: nope... come back again and ask someone else! It'll help save time if you tell them everything we figured out |
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| 08:09.45 | Vasistha | Johnny_5: I'm going to bed, though, see ya round, good luck |
| 08:09.49 | Johnny_5 | k |
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| 08:09.57 | Johnny_5 | goodnite |
| 08:10.13 | ice_1963 | Vasistha, good night |
| 08:10.35 | Dewi | testing seems to be pretty stable now |
| 08:10.47 | crazy_penguin | morning all! |
| 08:10.55 | Dewi | I just did a long overdue update (several months worth) and it seems to have gone without a hitch |
| 08:11.04 | deadcat | Dewi: glad im not usin testing (= |
| 08:11.16 | Johnny_5 | i can't seem to get my webcam to work....i know the kernal sees it |
| 08:11.18 | Dewi | deadcat: ? |
| 08:11.29 | deadcat | nevermind |
| 08:11.46 | deadcat | Johnny_5: what camera? |
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| 08:12.27 | Johnny_5 | the error i get is could not connect to video device (/dev /video0). please check connection. |
| 08:12.38 | deadcat | what camera? chipset? |
| 08:13.01 | Carl2006 | does anybody know how to install templates on OpenOffice impress? |
| 08:13.13 | Johnny_5 | deadcat: logitec quickcam |
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| 08:13.28 | deadcat | Johnny_5: which one? they have hella. what chipset? pwc? |
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| 08:14.57 | Johnny_5 | deadcat: quick cam express. |
| 08:15.11 | deadcat | Johnny_5: i dont htink the express works on linux at all. |
| 08:15.16 | Johnny_5 | ?? |
| 08:15.29 | Johnny_5 | deadcat: you got to be kidding |
| 08:15.34 | deadcat | nope |
| 08:15.43 | deadcat | the white camera right? |
| 08:15.46 | Johnny_5 | explaines a few things..... |
| 08:15.49 | Johnny_5 | yup |
| 08:15.54 | deadcat | yeep |
| 08:15.58 | Johnny_5 | errrr |
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| 08:16.22 | Johnny_5 | deadcat: thanx |
| 08:16.23 | deadcat | i have a 3000, works hella nice. the 4000 works even better |
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| 08:16.53 | Johnny_5 | deadcat: guess i'm gonna go webcam shopping tomorrow..... |
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| 08:17.33 | deadcat | Johnny_5: logitech 4000 is pretty good. it works well with the motion software |
| 08:17.41 | Johnny_5 | k |
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| 08:18.41 | Carl2006 | can someone help me by telling me how to install Open Office Impress templates... |
| 08:19.13 | pUm | I've got a 32 bit rescue system and want to install a pure amd64 with debootstrap ... someone have got a few hints for me how I can make this ? |
| 08:19.55 | Johnny_5 | well i'm gonna go watch some dragonball, now |
| 08:20.04 | Johnny_5 | later all |
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| 08:20.38 | formorer | pUm: it won't work unless you 32bit system has a 64 Bit Kernel |
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| 08:22.55 | brosioz | anyone known something like partiimage that copy also mbr ? |
| 08:23.53 | pUm | formorer: okay .. can I make an 32 bit debootstrap and install a 64 bit kernel image ... then booting this new 32/64 bit system and make another debootsrap with full 64 bit binarys ? |
| 08:24.10 | formorer | yes, thats possible |
| 08:24.26 | formorer | the 64 bit kernels are available in normal 32bit Debian |
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| 08:26.53 | abli | brosioz, why do you think partimage can't save the mbr? it has 'restorembr' command and a --nombr switch |
| 08:26.54 | pUm | formorer: okay .. so i need the amd64 kernel image for i386 ? ... like this one: 2.6.8-12-amd64-k8-smp ... please say yes ;) |
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| 08:27.15 | formorer | I don't know if you really need smp, but otherwise its finde |
| 08:27.17 | fm | brosioz, new partimage support mbr and partition table copying |
| 08:27.18 | formorer | eh fine |
| 08:27.21 | brosioz | abli: i need to make a copy of a disk with windows xp |
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| 08:27.42 | brosioz | and i need to make also a copy of his mbr |
| 08:27.55 | pUm | yes its the kernel i've got some booting issues .. but now i know that I can take it .. I have more fun to work on .. thank you formorer |
| 08:28.09 | formorer | no problem |
| 08:28.37 | streuner | !formorer++ |
| 08:28.46 | streuner | dpkg, karma formorer |
| 08:28.46 | dpkg | formorer has karma of 1 |
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| 08:29.17 | formorer | streuner: you have too much time :) |
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| 08:29.36 | brosioz | any solution ? |
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| 08:29.50 | brosioz | fm: abli any solution ? |
| 08:29.51 | sn00p_ | What is the X windows system called in apt-cache search? |
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| 08:30.05 | fm | brosioz, you need to copy mbr, right ? |
| 08:30.05 | nkuttler | sn00p_: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 08:30.19 | brosioz | fm: yes mbr and all data |
| 08:30.27 | brosioz | of dev/hdb |
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| 08:30.55 | fm | brosioz, dd if=/dev/hda of=hda.mbr count=1 bs=512 |
| 08:30.56 | samuel | sup all |
| 08:31.07 | asdas | q |
| 08:31.22 | brosioz | that copy only mbr or not ? |
| 08:31.32 | samuel | i read that the amd64 repos have been merged with the normal debian repos, is this true? |
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| 08:31.44 | fm | brosioz, only mbr |
| 08:31.49 | samuel | i no longer have to use the amd64 repos on the alioth page? |
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| 08:32.08 | brosioz | fm: to copy also all data ? |
| 08:32.17 | fm | brosioz, use partimage |
| 08:32.27 | Champignon | Lussa les debianneux |
| 08:33.19 | brosioz | ok |
| 08:33.21 | brosioz | but |
| 08:33.23 | brosioz | dd if=/dev/hda | gzip > /mnt/hdb1/system_drive_backup.img.gz |
| 08:33.29 | brosioz | this should work ? |
| 08:33.59 | fm | not sure :) |
| 08:34.34 | brosioz | :| |
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| 08:35.20 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
| 08:35.45 | fm | brosioz, I would recommend partimage, with its ncurses based interface it would easy to do such backups |
| 08:36.49 | ArchitectSinan | i need to run Qmail on my Sarge Box. Which source (http://www.qmailrocks.org/install_db.htm, http://smarden.org/pape/Debian/qmail/qmail-run.html, http://www.pantz.org/email/qmail/qmailondebian.shtml, you suggest me to get/install the qmail ? |
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| 08:37.15 | fm | ArchitectSinan, lifewithamil.org |
| 08:37.18 | fm | grr |
| 08:37.28 | ArchitectSinan | ok i gotcha |
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| 08:37.29 | fm | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.35 | ArchitectSinan | fm: thx :) |
| 08:37.36 | fm | that too wrong :) |
| 08:37.38 | fm | ok |
| 08:37.42 | fm | welcome |
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| 08:40.51 | winstein | hi, what do i need to do to be able to control sound vol fr the taskbar? |
| 08:41.29 | ArchitectSinan | bye all |
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| 08:41.49 | Eulex | winstein, depends on what taskbar you mean |
| 08:42.01 | SkyBlueshoes | can anyone help me figure this error out? [error] an unknown filter was not added: PHP |
| 08:42.12 | winstein | Eulex: sorry, it should be the menu bar. |
| 08:42.20 | SkyBlueshoes | I've got ISPConfig installed, followed all the instructions but php isn't working |
| 08:42.33 | SkyBlueshoes | and it's enabled under ISPconfig's site manager |
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| 08:43.01 | Eulex | winstein, hmm, am I right then that you're running gnome? |
| 08:43.11 | winstein | Eulex: no, kde. |
| 08:43.47 | Eulex | winstein, oh, dunno then. you could ask in #kde or #debian-kde |
| 08:43.55 | SkyBlueshoes | after ISPconfig is instaleld, does it use a different Apache2.conf? |
| 08:44.16 | winstein | Eulex: ahh,u r a disappointment. |
| 08:45.25 | Eulex | winstein, well, I'm not kde user :) and the people in #debian-kde and #kde are more likely to know than the people in here, though of course, someone may know in here |
| 08:46.11 | winstein | Eulex: its ok. i wasn't reprimanding u. just expressing my disappointment. |
| 08:46.39 | winstein | Eulex: your willingness to help is appreciated. |
| 08:47.18 | Eulex | winstein, thank you :) |
| 08:48.09 | stoned | I need a bit of help with booting windows from linux. XP installed on /dev/hda1 NTFS disk. Linux/debian installed on (swap = /dev/sda1) (/boot = /dev/sda2) (/ = /dev/sda3) (/home = /dev/sda4). My current /boot/grub/menu.lst in Debian has this. title Windows, root (hd0,0), makeactive, chainloader +1. It gives me an error like bad/wrong executable command something. BTW, IDE disk is primary master#1, while SATA disk is primary master #3 |
| 08:48.16 | stoned | Sata is selected to boot first in BIOS. |
| 08:48.27 | stoned | What could I be doing wrong? |
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| 08:52.07 | toshiro | it is normal that after removing php5 i still have a folder in /etc/php5 ? |
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| 08:52.49 | Yonixxx | hello there (sorry for the very newbee question) how can i give access to a specific directory to a specific user |
| 08:53.57 | toshiro | Yonixxx, you give the directory the permission for the person, or you add it in a group, and you give acces group to the folder |
| 08:54.27 | Yonixxx | Hello Toshiro (tanks for your time) ok... but how do i do that ? |
| 08:54.41 | toshiro | Yonixxx, chown |
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| 08:55.01 | Yonixxx | ok i look how it work thanks |
| 08:55.19 | toshiro | it is normal that after removing php5 i still have a folder in /etc/php5 ? |
| 08:55.55 | SkyBlueshoes | toshiro: yes |
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| 08:56.55 | stoned | anyone? |
| 08:56.55 | Nosf3ratu | bueller? |
| 08:57.12 | stoned | I really would like to play some TES Oblivion |
| 08:57.21 | stoned | :) |
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| 08:59.30 | mc__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.40 | winstein | Eulex: where r u fr? |
| 09:01.32 | winstein | Eulex: fix my problem. there is a 'volume control' in my 'multimedia' menu. |
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| 09:04.12 | stoned | you know whats fucked up |
| 09:04.22 | stoned | I asked in ##linux and they ridiculed me for asking this |
| 09:04.31 | stoned | what the FUCK is so wrong with asking a question about that? |
| 09:04.35 | stoned | I don't get it |
| 09:05.02 | winstein | wtf is TES Oblivion? |
| 09:05.13 | stoned | its a game |
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| 09:05.40 | toshiro | how can i easy reinstall my debian, |
| 09:05.40 | DevilChaos | hi all |
| 09:05.50 | blondie | Nosf3ratu: are you high? |
| 09:05.51 | stoned | I mean, I can boot windows, if I change bios settings, not a problem, but its a pain, and I am trying to load it through grub, and when I do I get an error |
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| 09:05.57 | DevilChaos | toshiro: doh |
| 09:06.02 | stoned | scroll up for my problem, or else I can paste again |
| 09:06.07 | toshiro | DevilChaos, doh? |
| 09:06.18 | DevilChaos | you fucked up |
| 09:06.19 | ChrisW | hi all... is iptables still the recommended firewall for debian? if so, anyone got a good how-to? |
| 09:06.20 | winstein | stoned: u could get fu..ed again here too. |
| 09:06.28 | stoned | why? |
| 09:06.38 | stoned | I've seen people ask that they have been helped, even by ops |
| 09:06.39 | toshiro | DevilChaos, i've played too much with things i dont control |
| 09:06.46 | stoned | people in this channel at least aren't assholes |
| 09:06.56 | DevilChaos | yup sounds like it |
| 09:06.56 | stoned | as much as I've been here at least |
| 09:06.58 | war92 | Anyone know if there is a font that is square? ie , 10x10 pixels? |
| 09:07.04 | winstein | people get fu..ed here for no reason or rhyme. |
| 09:07.16 | DevilChaos | ive bin at that point before not that long ago actually |
| 09:07.21 | toshiro | DevilChaos, i've found a place to have what i need, but it's not working while trying to install , i think my machine is too dirty, ...deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 09:07.23 | stoned | well, thats everwhere really to an extent |
| 09:07.59 | winstein | stoned: well, u haven't got any answer. |
| 09:08.05 | stoned | not yet |
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| 09:08.11 | toshiro | DevilChaos, have you an idea how to get a clean debian, the one i need to clean is running, |
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| 09:08.35 | DevilChaos | pass sometimes a fresh install is needed and sometimes not i tried to correct grub by reinstalling it but just ended up reinstalling anyway |
| 09:08.47 | DevilChaos | ok |
| 09:08.48 | DevilChaos | em |
| 09:09.12 | cahoot | ChrisW: yes and sorry no |
| 09:09.18 | DevilChaos | download iso from debian burn and reinstall |
| 09:09.36 | stoned | or you can boot a netinstaller, I find that better for me |
| 09:09.38 | toshiro | DevilChaos, is not a better way? i've good connection |
| 09:09.48 | winstein | stoned: can u tell us more about this game? |
| 09:09.53 | DevilChaos | yes its a netinstall cd you want |
| 09:09.54 | Eulex | toshiro, then use the netinstaller |
| 09:10.09 | toshiro | Eulex, thanxs |
| 09:10.09 | ChrisW | oh well :-/ |
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| 09:10.17 | stoned | winstein, it is by far the best game ever made by humans. Quite literally, in almost every aspect and respect. look it up |
| 09:10.37 | stoned | in fact, it literally requires a super computer to run it |
| 09:10.38 | stoned | lol |
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| 09:10.59 | toshiro | Eulex, i dont have it in my packages? |
| 09:11.08 | DevilChaos | eulex: i have trouble with rar files can you help i input unrar-free -xtfv /home/devil/Desktop/Ultimate\ NRG-2CD.Prop.real.ZodiacReal.rar /home/devil/Desktop/ and i get a fail message |
| 09:11.18 | Eulex | !d-i toshiro |
| 09:11.19 | dpkg | toshiro, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 09:11.32 | toshiro | ;o) |
| 09:11.38 | Eulex | DevilChaos, sorry, I dunno |
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| 09:11.51 | DevilChaos | anyone? |
| 09:11.52 | Nosf3ratu | bueller? |
| 09:11.55 | ekkikrist | rar is totally garbage |
| 09:12.00 | DevilChaos | heh |
| 09:12.11 | stoned | here is alink for you |
| 09:12.13 | stoned | http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch05s01.html#boot-initrd |
| 09:12.17 | ekkikrist | DevilChaos: Add non-free to your apt sources and get unrar from there. |
| 09:12.19 | DevilChaos | itsposible it is but i still need to unrar it |
| 09:12.31 | stoned | its from the installation guide, it shows you how to boot the netinstaller kernel/initrd |
| 09:12.35 | DevilChaos | im on 64 bit debian |
| 09:12.49 | ekkikrist | oh well |
| 09:12.54 | DevilChaos | come here for chart as that channel is rather quiet |
| 09:12.58 | DevilChaos | chat |
| 09:13.43 | DevilChaos | actually ill just ask there too see if i get an answer |
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| 09:19.41 | Angeli | hi! |
| 09:20.02 | blondie | rude |
| 09:20.15 | Angeli | ;) |
| 09:20.19 | blondie | what does that mean? |
| 09:20.29 | Angeli | I got a kernel panic and i'm taking my frustration out on you! |
| 09:20.38 | Angeli | The sex was so good between blondie and me that the neighbors for a three block radius could hear it |
| 09:20.38 | blondie | bless |
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| 09:20.46 | blondie | you wish |
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| 09:20.49 | Angeli | Blesss eyyyy |
| 09:21.09 | Eulex | Angeli, better to take your frustration out on the nearest wall |
| 09:21.13 | Angeli | Yeah, what is "apt-get" |
| 09:21.45 | Angeli | ok ok |
| 09:21.50 | Angeli | getting srious here |
| 09:21.57 | Angeli | I need a bit of help with my server |
| 09:22.02 | Angeli | when i boot it up |
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| 09:22.16 | Angeli | it syays it can't load a load of modules :( |
| 09:22.18 | cahoot | dysfunctional kb? |
| 09:22.27 | DevilChaos | http://pastebin.com/740847 |
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| 09:22.39 | dondelelcaro | Angeli: like which modules? Are things working properly? Can you give us the full output? |
| 09:23.00 | Angeli | Mainly netowork related |
| 09:23.06 | DevilChaos | that is the output of my unrar command that im haveing trouble with if anyone wnts to take a look |
| 09:23.09 | Angeli | really sucks |
| 09:23.27 | DJ-Marcuzz | what do i need to have installed when i want xvnc to run correcly? |
| 09:23.31 | Angeli | Its just happned all of a suddeb |
| 09:23.36 | Angeli | 8 |
| 09:23.47 | Angeli | maybe vnc clients? |
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| 09:23.59 | DJ-Marcuzz | Angeli, i mean server side |
| 09:24.05 | stoned | hey, don't laugh at me, but I fixed it |
| 09:24.23 | stoned | it was a little typo I overlooked, an extra character heh |
| 09:24.27 | stoned | :D |
| 09:24.30 | Angeli | oki poki |
| 09:24.31 | Angeli | nublet |
| 09:24.34 | blondie | drugs'll do that to you |
| 09:24.35 | stoned | hehe |
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| 09:24.50 | stoned | what drugs? |
| 09:24.53 | dondelelcaro | (auto-unblocking on close of blocks) |
| 09:25.02 | stoned | I dont' do drugs man |
| 09:25.03 | stoned | I'm clean |
| 09:25.47 | stoned | yah, i had chainbloader +1 |
| 09:26.04 | stoned | b next to n, I hit it and it was in there, giving me the wrong executable format error |
| 09:26.36 | blondie | "stoned" |
| 09:26.51 | stoned | oh come on an, like you've never made a typo :) |
| 09:26.53 | stoned | man* |
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| 09:27.09 | blondie | I was talking about your nick :P |
| 09:27.13 | stoned | oh |
| 09:27.22 | mithro | anyone know a dvd burning application which lets me queue up a whole bunch then just change the discs as needed? |
| 09:27.38 | stoned | mithro, I am not qutie certain, I use k3b, but never looked up that function |
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| 09:28.37 | slav0nic | what best wget gui fronted? |
| 09:28.44 | stoned | mithro, it should be able to span something on multiple discs, and it should prompt you |
| 09:28.50 | blondie | xterm |
| 09:28.54 | stoned | hehe |
| 09:29.09 | mithro | basically i have about 100gb to burn off, and i know how i want to divide up the files |
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| 09:29.40 | mithro | so I just want to say burn these files to disc, then these files, then these files, etc |
| 09:29.45 | stoned | mithro, usb drives are quite cheap these days |
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| 09:29.52 | stoned | just a suggesstion :) |
| 09:30.04 | lastnode | mithro: i think k3b and gnomebaker should let you do that just fine |
| 09:30.15 | mithro | stoned: he he - I'm trying to free up space on my USB drive :) |
| 09:30.19 | stoned | haha |
| 09:30.35 | lastnode | slav0nic: ive heard good things about axel |
| 09:30.44 | lastnode | slav0nic: why not just use wget -c ;-) |
| 09:30.58 | slav0nic | ) |
| 09:31.10 | mithro | lastnode: but I want to do all the file things at once and then let then only worry about changing the disks |
| 09:31.15 | stoned | you could just to apt-cache search wget and see what packages come up |
| 09:31.17 | Eulex | hmm, who poked out slav0nic's eyes? |
| 09:31.43 | stoned | there are a bunch of tools in the list |
| 09:31.56 | stoned | eg. gwget for gnome |
| 09:32.15 | slav0nic | sucks=\ many bugs |
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| 09:32.34 | stoned | well its just an example man, check the lot of them out |
| 09:32.45 | lastnode | mithro: that feature should be in |
| 09:32.51 | lastnode | slav0nic: axel is good, i think |
| 09:33.07 | stoned | wet does me just fine |
| 09:33.11 | mithro | lastnode: okay i'll try gnomebaker then |
| 09:33.15 | lastnode | i always have a bazillion shells open, so it often makes sense to just use wget |
| 09:33.15 | stoned | run it under screen if you're downloading huge files |
| 09:33.20 | lastnode | mithro: apt-get it baby! ;-) |
| 09:33.28 | mithro | lastnode: doing already |
| 09:33.40 | stoned | hah, s/wet/wget |
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| 09:36.08 | slav0nic | can i disable print installe packages in aptitude (when i run aptitude install)? |
| 09:37.17 | DevilChaos | http://pastebin.com/740854 someone take alook at this please? |
| 09:38.45 | lastnode | DevilChaos: im in cli, i dont have a web browser :) tell me what it's about? :) |
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| 09:38.59 | blondie | lastnode: links |
| 09:39.07 | lastnode | blondie: not apt-getted :) |
| 09:39.26 | DevilChaos | its a fail msg from unrared files |
| 09:39.26 | blondie | lastnode: apt-get it baby! ;-) |
| 09:39.39 | lastnode | blondie: already apt-getting fluxbox, love ;-) |
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| 09:40.15 | DevilChaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:40.29 | DevilChaos | Extracting Ultimate NRG-2CD.Prop.real.ZodiacReal/cd1/01-AudioTrack 01.mp3 Failed |
| 09:40.33 | DevilChaos | etc etc |
| 09:41.11 | lastnode | DevilChaos: bad rar file? |
| 09:41.22 | DevilChaos | fuck knows |
| 09:42.12 | mithro | welp, gnome-baker doesn't do what I want |
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| 09:44.26 | Mastroquet | hi, when I log as another user with su [other_user] |
| 09:44.34 | Mastroquet | and I want to start |
| 09:44.39 | Mastroquet | a graphical app |
| 09:44.44 | Mastroquet | i get this : |
| 09:44.51 | Mastroquet | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.57 | Mastroquet | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 09:45.00 | Mastroquet | Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
| 09:45.25 | Mastroquet | so i cannot launch firefox or emelfm or anything as another user |
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| 09:46.52 | WildPenguin | Mastroquet, try xhost +localhost as user with premission to display |
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| 09:47.15 | WildPenguin | s/premission/permission |
| 09:48.23 | Mastroquet | thank you WildPenguin |
| 09:48.35 | WildPenguin | Mastroquet, anytime |
| 09:48.37 | Mastroquet | but i don't understand |
| 09:48.41 | Mastroquet | ;-) |
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| 09:49.04 | coywolf | i want to use ubantu, anyone moves to it+ |
| 09:49.23 | Mastroquet | coywolf : !!!!!! |
| 09:50.01 | coywolf | !uuntu |
| 09:50.03 | Mastroquet | WildPenguin : what is "permission to display" ? |
| 09:50.04 | DevilChaos | bbl bye for now |
| 09:50.04 | coywolf | !ubuntu |
| 09:50.04 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 09:50.51 | coywolf | i want to use ubuntu, anyone moves to it? Mastroquet |
| 09:50.53 | streuner | !ubuntusmite coywolf |
| 09:51.26 | WildPenguin | Mastroquet, a user which has permission to the display which where you want the other program to appear, so the user which logged in, or root are generally those which have permission to allow other users to connect |
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| 09:52.06 | Grant_ | Hello, how do i stop a package from updating? |
| 09:52.16 | Eulex | !tell Grant_ about hold |
| 09:52.19 | coywolf | !Based On Debian |
| 09:52.19 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 09:52.46 | Mastroquet | WildPenguin ok thanks |
| 09:53.24 | Grant_ | That's cool, thanks Eulex |
| 09:53.25 | Grant_ | ! |
| 09:53.32 | Eulex | Grant_, yw :) |
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| 09:57.10 | outlaw84 | are there any flags you can send to dpkg while installing a debian package with the -i flag? |
| 09:57.26 | outlaw84 | so that is shows extra messages |
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| 09:58.29 | locus | hi, I have a server (sarge installed) which gives me an "Input/output error" when I try to execute some binaries also 'ls -l' results in a Bus Error. Anyone has an idea what the problem could possibly be? Any hints? |
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| 10:00.28 | Mastroquet | WildPenguin : xhost +alter@localhost ==> alter@localhost being added to access control list |
| 10:00.34 | brosioz | anyone is pratice with partimage ? |
| 10:00.41 | Mastroquet | I suppose it's not correst |
| 10:00.48 | _MiTo_ | yo ppl, how can I remove cron.hourly entries in auth.log ??? I've commented the line out of crontab,but that's not the solution |
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| 10:00.51 | Mastroquet | because it doesn't work |
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| 10:01.18 | WildPenguin | Mastroquet, just "xhost +localhost" as that user |
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| 10:01.36 | Mastroquet | ah... |
| 10:01.38 | Mastroquet | ok |
| 10:02.42 | WildPenguin | Mastroquet, sorry, my explaination was a little vague. |
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| 10:04.09 | Eulex | Mastroquet & WildPenguin, note that doing xhost +localhost on a multi-user machine would create quite a security hole |
| 10:04.41 | Mastroquet | WildPenguin : no problem, of course |
| 10:04.44 | WildPenguin | Eulex, indeed. |
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| 10:05.45 | Mastroquet | anyway it still doesn't work... |
| 10:05.47 | DJ-Marcuzz | is there any advantage of using xorg instead of xfree86 on a debian server? (i need remote controll with x environment,and this by vnc) |
| 10:06.05 | Mastroquet | xhost +localhost => Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 10:06.14 | Eulex | Mastroquet, use sudo or sux to start an X program as another user. |
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| 10:06.43 | Mastroquet | Thanks Eulex I'll try that |
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| 10:09.32 | goron | What is the best (little energy usage/low cost/>=50 GB) automatic backup solution for two pc's connected via a network which are not always on? |
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| 10:10.32 | Mastroquet | Eulex, WildPenguin : thanks a lot for your help, it works fine with sux |
| 10:10.44 | Mastroquet | Congrats from a new debian user |
| 10:10.50 | Mastroquet | :-) |
| 10:11.08 | Mastroquet | (it's my second day under debian) |
| 10:12.02 | Eulex | Mastroquet, then close your security hole with xhost -localhost :) |
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| 10:12.48 | TTT | hi, what does debian store in /var/log/ksymoops? |
| 10:13.13 | Youpi | secret things |
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| 10:14.00 | Eulex | TTT, kernel symbols and module info, it seems |
| 10:14.28 | Ugly_Duck | any one use debmirror? |
| 10:14.33 | Ugly_Duck | need some help |
| 10:14.41 | Mastroquet | Eulex : euh.... How should I close it ? |
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| 10:14.56 | Eulex | Mastroquet, xhost -localhost |
| 10:15.42 | Mastroquet | ok, I thuoght this command was the origin of the whole.... |
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| 10:16.24 | Mastroquet | localhost being removed from access control list |
| 10:16.24 | TheCarl | does anybody know how to add new templates to Open Office Impress?? |
| 10:16.26 | Eulex | Mastroquet, xhost +localhost enabled anyone at your machine to access all your X sessions, xhost -localhost disallows it. |
| 10:16.32 | Mastroquet | Now i understand |
| 10:16.45 | Eulex | TheCarl, maybe #openoffice.org or #debian-oo does? |
| 10:17.00 | Mastroquet | now that I can distinguish a - from a + |
| 10:17.03 | Mastroquet | ;-) |
| 10:17.09 | Mastroquet | sorry folks |
| 10:17.18 | TheCarl | thx |
| 10:17.19 | Eulex | Mastroquet, hehe, that's a nice ability :) |
| 10:17.24 | goron | !backup |
| 10:17.24 | dpkg | methinks backup is something you should do *ALWAYS*... if you value your sh*t even in the least. Otherwise eons of buildup and data can go BYE BYE FOREVER one day if you do not backup, either by HD malfunction or by intentional evil by crackers or by mischivious glak elves that invade your system. Or even by large magnets that get out of hand. Pay the dollars for a tape system or CDR and use tar (plus optionally bzip2 at lowest compression) |
| 10:17.29 | Mastroquet | I learn slowly but finally i learn.... |
| 10:18.17 | stoned | lol |
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| 10:18.55 | quitte | why does dpkg suggest using lowest compression for bzip2? |
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| 10:19.10 | TheCarl | everybody seems to be dead at the oo channels |
| 10:19.28 | blondie | TheCarl: oh well |
| 10:19.34 | stoned | TheCarl, just ask your question, ususally when someone comes around and sees it, they'll asnwer |
| 10:19.49 | blondie | or they'll yell at you for being off topic |
| 10:19.54 | stoned | lol |
| 10:19.55 | Eulex | TheCarl, wait a few minutes. |
| 10:20.35 | TheCarl | alrighty |
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| 10:22.34 | stoned | has anyone worked with colinux + debian? I got it running under windows, and it runs samba inside it, and shares my 250gb drive which is reiserfs. The only problem is it is very slow. There is no colinux channel, and this has nothing to do with debian other than I am using debian sarge with it, so if anyone can give me any tips on improving performace slightly, let me know, otherwise ignore this |
| 10:22.43 | phoohb | Is Ubuntu goog, dood (rude bruts)? |
| 10:23.06 | blondie | phoohb: English please |
| 10:23.14 | Gnea | ext3 > reiserfs |
| 10:23.16 | Gnea | !ubuntu |
| 10:23.18 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org and/or visit #ubuntu, right here on IRC. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 10:23.45 | Eulex | !ricerfs |
| 10:23.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 10:23.53 | phoohb | Gnea: Yes, and its more popular that Debian (these days) |
| 10:24.30 | Gnea | phoohb: to the misinformed and the easy to please, sure |
| 10:24.44 | SubStack | ubuntu is as icky as kde or gnome or whatever the hell wm it uses |
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| 10:25.02 | Mastroquet | microsoft windows is much more popular than ubuntu, it must be very good |
| 10:25.04 | stoned | Eulex, I hear a lot of people discouraging the use of RFS, why? It has never caused me any problems in many years |
| 10:25.06 | blondie | SubStack: kde and gnome aren't WMs |
| 10:25.14 | Gnea | heh |
| 10:25.22 | Gnea | !reiserfs |
| 10:25.22 | dpkg | hmm... reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
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| 10:25.37 | SubStack | should I toss in a d and an s? |
| 10:26.01 | SubStack | "desktops" then |
| 10:26.14 | SubStack | at any rate, they use up way too many resources for my poor little sytem |
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| 10:26.20 | SubStack | s/sy/sys/ |
| 10:26.40 | mage | then stick with icewm/blackbox |
| 10:26.49 | Eulex | SubStack, twm!!!! |
| 10:26.53 | SubStack | yeah! |
| 10:27.19 | stoned | SubStack, http://xwinman.org/ |
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| 10:27.27 | stoned | check em all out |
| 10:27.35 | stoned | well not ALL per se, but a lot of them |
| 10:27.38 | stoned | pick one you like |
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| 10:28.39 | stoned | I personally favor *box wm's, fvwm, icewm, and windowmaker over others |
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| 10:28.53 | Gnea | stoned: basically, if your reiserfs partition were to encounter a problem regarding filesystem corruption of any kind, unless you already had a backup of your data, you would be hard pressed to get at least part of the data backed up before having to rebuild the entire tree, which involves destroying all of the data on it. |
| 10:29.13 | friedl | Im trying to install a new theme for debian/kde, now this is a theme espically done for sarge. I ran the deb file and it seemes as though its working but after its finished nothing happens. heres the log: http://snuttisgullipluttis.googlepages.com/help1.txt |
| 10:29.14 | SubStack | have used 6 of those already |
| 10:29.22 | SubStack | still not quite satisfied yet though |
| 10:29.23 | locus | if I copy files around with tar (tar cf - | ... | tar xfp -) does it first create the archive and then pipe to output to the next command or does that work on the fly (continously)? The reason I'm asking is because have to copy a huge amount of data around (and I dont want to use up my swap or tmp space). |
| 10:29.44 | qweo | Any Debian developers here? Can anybody told what i must do for report bug in alsa-oss package? (I'm 100% sure it's bug in package...) Just i don't want to use reportbug.I must write letter to pkg-alsa-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org,right? |
| 10:29.58 | Gnea | unlike ext2 and ext3, which have better corruption methods established to counter such issues - in that case, at least there's a lost+found/ directory to make an attempt at recovery in a worse case scenario |
| 10:30.01 | stoned | friedl, the theme is now installed. All you have to do is go to kcontrol and themes/styles whatever and select it |
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| 10:30.32 | Gnea | qweo: no, you use reportbug, that's how it's done |
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| 10:30.42 | Mastroquet | SubStack : have you tried PekWM or Sawfish ? |
| 10:30.48 | SubStack | not yet |
| 10:31.08 | Mastroquet | they're great in my opinion |
| 10:31.11 | liable | qweo: there is an online thing at b.d.o iirc |
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| 10:31.27 | Mastroquet | don't need much resources |
| 10:32.01 | quitte | qweo: instructions for writing a mail are on bugs.debian.org. but reportbug is easy to use and i really recommend you use it instead |
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| 10:32.18 | Mastroquet | PeWM 0.1.5 is my favourite WM, and i really think it deserves a try |
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| 10:32.55 | Mastroquet | If you like spartiat and keyboard oriented WMs, ratpoison and wmii are fine too |
| 10:32.59 | Erkethan | hello |
| 10:33.14 | Gnea | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2004/08/msg01710.html <-- classic reiserfs problem |
| 10:33.20 | DJ-Marcuzz | how can i change the x windows manager that starts when i do startx? |
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| 10:33.38 | Gnea | DJ-Marcuzz: edit ~/.xinitrc |
| 10:33.51 | SubStack | is it listed as pwm? |
| 10:34.12 | DJ-Marcuzz | Gnea, that file doesn't exist, but when i do startx it starts XFCE4 |
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| 10:34.27 | deadcat | i thought ion3 owns in terms of keybinding WMs |
| 10:34.33 | Gnea | DJ-Marcuzz: then you need to create it. what wm did you want to start? |
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| 10:34.42 | DJ-Marcuzz | icewm |
| 10:34.43 | Erkethan | Somebody knows how I can execute a shell script, loggued as user, whith root privileges. |
| 10:34.44 | adn | hi |
| 10:34.45 | Erkethan | I've try chmod 4755, but it doesn't work. |
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| 10:35.03 | Gnea | Erkethan: run it as root |
| 10:35.20 | SubStack | Erkethan: who owns the script? |
| 10:35.29 | quitte | i still cant get xen working.when i run xm create xen1.cfg -c im told xend wasn't running. and if i try to start it im getting some deprecation warning but xend won't run. |
| 10:35.34 | deadcat | Erkethan: because shell script cannot have setuid |
| 10:35.48 | Erkethan | I've write it as root, but I want user can execute it. |
| 10:35.49 | stoned | Erkethan, if the script itself requires root access then you obviously need it, otherwise chmod a+x blah.sh then ./blah.sh |
| 10:35.52 | Erkethan | Root owns it |
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| 10:36.00 | Gnea | DJ-Marcuzz: echo "exec icwewm" > ~/.xinitrc && chmod 700 ~/.xinitrc && startx |
| 10:36.08 | Mastroquet | SubStack : i guess you'll have to compile pekwm... |
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| 10:36.20 | SubStack | is it worth it? |
| 10:36.24 | deadcat | no |
| 10:36.26 | Gnea | Erkethan: chmod 755 scripot |
| 10:36.28 | Mastroquet | it's too bad it's not available as a .deb really |
| 10:36.29 | stoned | Erkethan, change the chmod to 755 |
| 10:36.29 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:36.30 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 10:36.37 | deadcat | try ion3 |
| 10:36.51 | SubStack | Erkethan: create a suid-ed binary to execute the script as root |
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| 10:37.10 | Erkethan | stoned: it run, but I've error as : command XXXX : You must be root do to this. |
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| 10:37.20 | stoned | Erkethan, then do it as root |
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| 10:37.28 | lvalue | hi folks, after the last upgrade (unstable) xchat gives me just this: http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xchat8mq.png :> any ideas why ? :) |
| 10:37.28 | Erkethan | SubStack: How can do that ? |
| 10:37.30 | stoned | that will the scritp world readable |
| 10:37.33 | stoned | make* |
| 10:37.44 | DJ-Marcuzz | Gnea: /root/.xinitrc: line 1: exec: icwewm: not found |
| 10:38.04 | Gnea | DJ-Marcuzz: obviously i spelled it wrong |
| 10:38.12 | Gnea | 'icewm' |
| 10:38.13 | deadcat | geese.. |
| 10:38.19 | exmethix | Hallo @ all!!! I need help! Could anybody of you tell me what this is? http://welt2.ameisenwelten.de/?ak=uw&pick=792 |
| 10:38.19 | blondie | ducks |
| 10:38.30 | blondie | haha |
| 10:38.33 | DJ-Marcuzz | well i didn't know what the right command was so it loot alraidy strange to me :P |
| 10:38.37 | deadcat | exmethix: its spam thats what it is |
| 10:38.38 | Erkethan | stoned: I want users can execute this scrit whith root privileges, I think it's possible which de correct configuration (by root) |
| 10:38.45 | stoned | Erkethan, to change permissions of afile owned by root, you HAVE to change it as root, user can't change perms of root owned files of course. But once you go root, then set the file to 755, then anyone will be albe to read it |
| 10:38.58 | Dunedan | Does anybody else also have problems with libasound2 since the last update? I can't play any sound anymore. Something ever crashs. |
| 10:38.58 | stoned | Erkethan, oh I misunderstood you |
| 10:39.00 | deadcat | Erkethan: shell script CANNOT be set with setuid |
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| 10:39.26 | blondie | exmethix needs a severe maiming |
| 10:39.35 | Erkethan | deadcat: I see.. it's why u+s doesn't work.... :/ |
| 10:39.38 | deadcat | Erkethan: do what SubStack said.. make a binary to call that script. setuid on the binary |
| 10:39.41 | blondie | exmethix: get out |
| 10:39.43 | Mastroquet | SubStack : well in my opinion it is -- pekwm is fast thought full featured, simple and not pretty, but themable and definitly not ugly |
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| 10:40.13 | deadcat | blondie: you actually went to the url? man.. you can guess its spam can you? |
| 10:40.22 | blondie | no, I didn't |
| 10:40.23 | SubStack | not ugly is good enough then |
| 10:40.27 | SubStack | I'll give it a go |
| 10:40.35 | deadcat | Mastroquet: try ion3 as well |
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| 10:40.42 | Erkethan | deadcat> with script:chmod755 and binary:chmod:4111 ? |
| 10:40.45 | deadcat | SubStack: ^^ |
| 10:40.48 | stoned | deadcat, mornin |
| 10:40.57 | deadcat | Erkethan: script can be 700 i think |
| 10:41.09 | Erkethan | ok, I'll try that |
| 10:41.10 | Mastroquet | deadcat : i think I prefer wmii than ion |
| 10:41.13 | stoned | way too early |
| 10:41.15 | deadcat | stoned: morning.. actually i still consider this night. since i havent gone to sleep yet (= |
| 10:41.18 | stoned | lol |
| 10:41.48 | deadcat | Mastroquet: ah.. i actually never tried any of those WMs.. but heard some good things about ion3 though |
| 10:41.54 | SubStack | I still consider this day because the sky is still rather yellowish |
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| 10:41.58 | SubStack | at 2:38 am |
| 10:42.06 | stoned | deadcat, I fixed my sleeping schedule, I took half a bottle of nyquil the other day, went to bed at 9pm, woke up at 4am, next day I didn't take anything, I went to bed at 10pm myself and woke up at 6 am, today I also woke up at a good early hour. Nyquil works wonders |
| 10:42.08 | SubStack | yay high lattitudes! |
| 10:42.13 | blondie | 2:41 you mean |
| 10:42.14 | deadcat | SubStack: 3:42am here |
| 10:42.20 | SubStack | bah, stupid clock |
| 10:42.24 | deadcat | SubStack: hahaha |
| 10:42.28 | blondie | Sat May 27 11:42:28 BST 2006 |
| 10:42.44 | Gnea | Blondie Standard Time? |
| 10:43.03 | SubStack | I need to figure out how to set that damned clock |
| 10:43.09 | blondie | Gnea: if you like |
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| 10:43.13 | Gnea | heh |
| 10:43.28 | deadcat | Gnea: you reg. for linuxworld yet? |
| 10:43.29 | Gnea | SubStack: tzconfig? |
| 10:43.33 | SubStack | it has some buttons under a piece of plastic that pops up |
| 10:43.39 | SubStack | Gnea: a real clock |
| 10:43.40 | Mastroquet | deadcat : yes ion3 is just fine too, but my favourite keyboard oriented WMs are ratpoison ans wmii |
| 10:43.44 | Gnea | deadcat: not yet, not sure if i'm gonna go this year |
| 10:43.51 | deadcat | ah |
| 10:43.53 | beardy | !set the clock |
| 10:43.57 | SubStack | I can set a computer clock plenty fine |
| 10:44.01 | beardy | !set the time |
| 10:44.01 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 10:44.02 | Gnea | SubStack: ah |
| 10:44.17 | SubStack | and that stupid vcr has a clock that is hell to setup too |
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| 10:44.39 | deadcat | SubStack: its because of the freakin remote. else its easy (= |
| 10:44.40 | Gnea | i used to set the clocks on all of the vcrs in the house when i was a kid |
| 10:44.46 | deadcat | not the vcr's fault |
| 10:44.53 | beardy | ah, heh |
| 10:44.54 | stoned | you still own a vcr? |
| 10:45.01 | stoned | ;) |
| 10:45.04 | Gnea | of course |
| 10:45.15 | Gnea | people still own 8-track players |
| 10:45.20 | Gnea | and record players |
| 10:45.26 | beardy | and tape drives |
| 10:45.32 | beardy | and televisions |
| 10:45.33 | deadcat | Gnea: they called it turn tables right? |
| 10:45.46 | blondie | record players are the same as turntables |
| 10:45.49 | Gnea | deadcat: or vinyl spinners |
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| 10:46.19 | deadcat | beardy: i use tape drives in the car... until all the speakers died recently.. now i just improvise (= |
| 10:46.32 | SubStack | I want a tape drive |
| 10:46.33 | blondie | tape drives are for backup ;) |
| 10:46.44 | blondie | tape players are for music |
| 10:46.53 | deadcat | that one then (= |
| 10:46.54 | SubStack | then I can record scripts and listen to them on the radio |
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| 10:47.04 | stoned | well, turntables are used to refer to Dj's, spinners, etc. record players are used to refer to actual record players. turntables is more than 1, while record player is usually singular |
| 10:47.04 | blondie | reel-to-reel ftw |
| 10:47.10 | stoned | afaik |
| 10:47.19 | blondie | *a* turntable is just one. |
| 10:47.19 | SubStack | perl music! |
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| 10:47.34 | Gnea | depends on your POV - direct drive are more turntable than belt driven, as least as far as what real DJ's use nowadays |
| 10:47.36 | stoned | blondie, I said truntables didn't I |
| 10:47.37 | deadcat | SubStack: wouldnt that be hard to understand? (= |
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| 10:47.52 | SubStack | maybe at first |
| 10:47.59 | wireddd | so what prevents you from recording audio onto a scsi tape drive and then playing it back? |
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| 10:48.16 | Gnea | wireddd: the lack of a scsi tape drive |
| 10:48.33 | stoned | soo, using your logic, we can backup data on audio cassette tapes? |
| 10:48.42 | blondie | stoned: technically yes. |
| 10:48.48 | Gnea | TI did it. |
| 10:48.51 | stoned | well technically, but not practically |
| 10:48.52 | blondie | stoned: that's what early home PCs used. |
| 10:48.54 | wireddd | stoned I have seen it done |
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| 10:49.02 | stoned | yup, I still have my commador in my closet |
| 10:49.02 | stoned | :)( |
| 10:49.08 | stoned | hehe |
| 10:49.12 | SubStack | man tar |
| 10:49.23 | Gnea | The TI994/A had a tape drive that used standard tapes to backup data onto |
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| 10:49.34 | blondie | quite recently I saw a PCI card with phono outputs for connecting to a VCR.... for data backup |
| 10:49.43 | stoned | hmm, interesting |
| 10:49.52 | Gnea | that was back in the 80's |
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| 10:50.00 | blondie | this was in 00s |
| 10:50.14 | Gnea | but it is the 00s |
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| 10:50.20 | blondie | yes |
| 10:50.24 | Gnea | lol |
| 10:50.26 | blondie | and it was in the past |
| 10:50.29 | blondie | so it was in the 00s |
| 10:50.35 | Gnea | :) |
| 10:50.43 | stoned | so you could backup data to video cassettes |
| 10:50.49 | stoned | hehe, that is freaking fantastic |
| 10:50.59 | Gnea | not to VHS or BETA |
| 10:51.06 | blondie | yes to VHS |
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| 10:51.20 | Gnea | well, TI didn't do that, someone else might have |
| 10:51.34 | blondie | this PCI card is designed exactly for that |
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| 10:52.08 | Gnea | who makes it? |
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| 10:52.28 | wireddd | I wonder how much data you can store on a vhs tape |
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| 10:52.45 | zorgan | anyone is having problems with X 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 ? |
| 10:52.45 | stoned | how does the backedup data holdup? Is is any reliable? |
| 10:52.50 | zorgan | I've just updated from ".1-4" version |
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| 10:52.55 | zorgan | and xdm is not reading its Xresources |
| 10:53.01 | norbert | hi, anyone any idea how I can get alsa to work with Quake 2? |
| 10:53.01 | zorgan | I had to change the location of xdm in /etc/init.d/xdm |
| 10:53.09 | zorgan | and other strange things are happening |
| 10:53.22 | zorgan | the worst is probabli that now I can't play WoW!! :/ |
| 10:53.30 | zorgan | "probably" |
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| 10:53.53 | zorgan | I guess that this part has to do with libmesa though... :/ |
| 10:54.40 | blondie | I can't find a link to it |
| 10:54.48 | Erkethan | deadcat stoned > It work !! Thanks for all :) |
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| 10:55.58 | Gnea | http://www.rediware.com/tipieces/hardwarepage/ticassette.jpg |
| 10:57.14 | dacer | quitte, K|NgGh0sT, hi!! |
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| 10:57.28 | DJ-Marcuzz | i think that gnome is a tad to big for an 333mhz server just for some remote administration, what WM would you recommend for that use? |
| 10:57.40 | blondie | DJ-Marcuzz: none |
| 10:57.45 | blondie | use ssh/cli only :| |
| 10:57.52 | Gnea | DJ-Marcuzz: no X at all, or fluxbox |
| 10:58.03 | deconvolution | hi, now I am totally confused about SATA device sequences. Basically I got an A8N Delux motherboard which has one slicon image SATA raid controller (4ports) and one nv SATA controller (4ports again) |
| 10:58.11 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: icewm is good :) |
| 10:58.29 | beardy | DJ-Marcuzz: "Remote administration" why do you need X then? |
| 10:58.32 | DJ-Marcuzz | i need the X some programs need X :P, ill try fluxbox, icewm hurts my eyes so ugly |
| 10:58.43 | beardy | DJ-Marcuzz: Name one. |
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| 10:58.53 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: have you heard about THEMES? :Þ |
| 10:59.01 | Gnea | deconvolution: you plug 'em in and go |
| 10:59.05 | deconvolution | my main harddisk is connect to nv first SATA port and a new blank harddisk connect to forth SATA |
| 10:59.07 | quitte | dacer: hi |
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| 10:59.13 | DJ-Marcuzz | beardy, FTD |
| 10:59.26 | littlesniper | hello guys |
| 10:59.31 | dacer | quitte, I get backend work!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:59.33 | dacer | :) |
| 10:59.43 | blondie | dacer: you only need one ! |
| 10:59.48 | Gnea | deconvolution: you should keep them in order |
| 10:59.49 | littlesniper | im fed up because in old days linux distros were faster like hell than windows |
| 10:59.54 | deconvolution | the funny things coming: when I boot my machine, i have to chnage my kernel boot=/dev/sdb1 (was /dev/sda1 without connecting the forth SATA drive) |
| 10:59.55 | littlesniper | now its the oppososite |
| 10:59.56 | beardy | DJ-Marcuzz: FTD? |
| 11:00.06 | littlesniper | so im seeking a new linux distro |
| 11:00.15 | Gnea | littlesniper: depends which one you use, that's not necessarily true |
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| 11:00.29 | beardy | littlesniper: Don't install crap you don't need then. |
| 11:00.30 | littlesniper | could you tell me to your opinion where shoud I go |
| 11:00.39 | beardy | !d-i littlesniper |
| 11:00.39 | dpkg | littlesniper, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 11:00.40 | deconvolution | check dmesg: the forth SATA drive is allocated to sda and the first main SATA becomes /dev/sdb |
| 11:00.42 | DJ-Marcuzz | zorgan, i know, but they don't do much, i can see a big difference betwean XFCE4 on sid and on sarge, the sarge is ugly and sid is nice :S |
| 11:00.45 | Eulex | littlesniper, get rid of gnome or kde, if you use ant of them. |
| 11:00.45 | Gnea | littlesniper: if it's one of the off-shoots on distrowatch.com, then it's probably bloated down by the author, otherwise you'll find real base distros to be just fine |
| 11:00.52 | dacer | hi blondie |
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| 11:01.01 | DJ-Marcuzz | beardy, tipical dutch program you don't know about |
| 11:01.09 | deconvolution | then my fstab can still keep use /dev/sda1 as root parition |
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| 11:01.19 | littlesniper | I was on redhat 9, in old days, then suse mandrake, slackware |
| 11:01.22 | beardy | DJ-Marcuzz: Try to explain, and it's not in Debian? |
| 11:01.25 | littlesniper | they all seem slow at boot |
| 11:01.28 | Gnea | deconvolution: probably because it's finding the SLI before the NV |
| 11:01.32 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: then go for fluxbox... |
| 11:01.40 | cahoot | littlesniper: slow at boot being the measure? |
| 11:01.42 | quitte | dacer: congratulations. what made it work? |
| 11:01.54 | deconvolution | Gnea: fstab sounds useless |
| 11:02.07 | DJ-Marcuzz | beardy, nope its not in debian ;) |
| 11:02.18 | littlesniper | man when suse takes >1min30 on an amd64 I call this shit |
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| 11:02.33 | deconvolution | typing df, my /dev/sda1 is point to my main paration which is recognised as sdb now |
| 11:02.33 | Gnea | deconvolution: i was going to say, fstab has nothing to do with the way the system itself is setup and how the kernel detects things in order |
| 11:02.39 | dacer | quitte, not sure, uninstall all, and try again (stop mythtv-backend daemon before run mythtv-setup) |
| 11:02.40 | cahoot | littlesniper: you do? - fix your config |
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| 11:02.58 | Gnea | deconvolution: well if you switched them, then you need to switch them back |
| 11:03.07 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: anyway, if it's for remote administration I don't see the point of running X on it |
| 11:03.15 | Eulex | DJ-Marcuzz, xfce4 in sid is currently broken. and there's not that much difference in looks between xfce 4.4 and 4.0 |
| 11:03.16 | dacer | quitte, I don't have mythtv working, but I get at least one more step |
| 11:03.17 | littlesniper | cahoot: I guess this is suse no ? Ive even tried to build my kernel for it |
| 11:03.21 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: like beardy asked, what do u need to run under X? |
| 11:03.32 | deconvolution | Gnea: I know, but I did not change fstab at all, kernel allocate main hd has sdb |
| 11:03.37 | dacer | quitte, this is my current problem: http://pastebin.com/740953 |
| 11:03.38 | cahoot | littlesniper: the kernelhas nothing to do with it |
| 11:03.42 | deconvolution | but df/fstab still use sda to visit it |
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| 11:03.54 | Gnea | deconvolution: so swap the drives around until it's right |
| 11:03.59 | Gnea | not too difficult |
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| 11:04.14 | littlesniper | cahoot: and there is not much to remove from the services, so what else could it be |
| 11:04.19 | cahoot | littlesniper: take your time and study what's going on/loaded at boottime |
| 11:04.31 | quitte | dacer: still no channels in your database it seems |
| 11:04.38 | dacer | quitte, yes |
| 11:04.41 | Lambert | e |
| 11:04.46 | Lambert | bonjour |
| 11:04.50 | DJ-Marcuzz | FTD, and i like to log into an x and then work, it works way faster for me, and Eulex, do you want screens? |
| 11:04.51 | deconvolution | Gnea: still confused how fstab can find the root parition from sda1 actually it is sdb1 now ? |
| 11:04.54 | Gnea | !fr |
| 11:04.54 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr. People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 11:05.14 | zorgan | what is FTD? |
| 11:05.16 | dacer | I'm running mythtv-setup again, trying to search channels |
| 11:05.17 | littlesniper | cahoot: it seems to loose like 10 secondes at this line "io scheduler cfg registered", don't know what for :-/ |
| 11:05.18 | zorgan | :Þ |
| 11:05.20 | Gnea | deconvolution: i have no idea, but that's not really important |
| 11:05.32 | Lambert | don't worry ;) |
| 11:05.39 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: anyway, that isn't REMOTE administration, you know? ;) |
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| 11:06.02 | deconvolution | Gnea: so I have to connect my main hd to the last SATA device port? sounds weird |
| 11:06.06 | littlesniper | cahoot: anyway its like "bricolage" distros, Im not that satified by new distros job |
| 11:06.12 | DJ-Marcuzz | i call it that way becaus it starts with vnc, and i log into it time to time to check up on it ;) |
| 11:06.21 | Gnea | deconvolution: i don't know, just connect them so it doesn't comoplain |
| 11:06.32 | Gnea | er, complain |
| 11:06.35 | Gnea | i need food, bbl |
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| 11:06.49 | deconvolution | Gnea: lol, thanks mate |
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| 11:07.04 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: I prefer to keep X out of my servers :Þ |
| 11:07.27 | cahoot | littlesniper: bricolage? - french? |
| 11:07.28 | dacer | quitte, I "discover" that while searching for channels on mythtv-setup, on xterm (that launch it) are asking for channels. I thought that mythtv-setup was hang up, but really was waiting response on xterm |
| 11:07.30 | dacer | :) |
| 11:07.52 | DJ-Marcuzz | zorgan, why? |
| 11:07.55 | Eulex | DJ-Marcuzz, no, I know how it's supposed to look. I'm part of upstream. |
| 11:08.22 | quitte | dacer: ugh. yes. forgot to tell you. |
| 11:08.29 | dacer | :) |
| 11:08.49 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: they are weak machines... so I run the least software I can on them... since I can run everything I need under a "screen" session or as a daemon I don't need X :) |
| 11:08.50 | littlesniper | cahoot: yes. :-P |
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| 11:09.05 | quitte | dacer: that was probably K|NgGh0sTs problem,too |
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| 11:09.06 | littlesniper | what do you guys think of vectorlinux ? |
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| 11:09.13 | littlesniper | any opinion ? |
| 11:09.26 | quitte | K|NgGh0sT: hey! your mythtv problem might be solved by dacer |
| 11:09.31 | dacer | mythtv detect my language (spanish) and traslate some info to my language, and while searching for channels, this info was off of screen |
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| 11:09.40 | littlesniper | "the fastest non-source distro on the planet!" |
| 11:09.46 | redblades | Hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia driver |
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| 11:10.19 | DJ-Marcuzz | zorgan, my maschines are a tad faster an i think i can fit an xsession on it, but the weakest system is an PII 333Mhz with 128MB ram, i dunnow if that wil take fluxbox on it :P |
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| 11:10.40 | redblades | I'm using the 2.6.8-16 kernel, (sarge) |
| 11:10.41 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: if it can take anything, then it is fluxbox! :Þ |
| 11:10.57 | redblades | http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 11:11.05 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: and try to set X depth's to 16 (or 8), it helps :) |
| 11:11.12 | redblades | I used the instructions on this site |
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| 11:11.49 | DJ-Marcuzz | zorgan, fluxbox is configurable, but i cant even find the option to change the background :P |
| 11:11.51 | siimo | hi is alsa in unstable broken? |
| 11:12.18 | siimo | i just did an upgrade and it upgraded libasound2 and then i cant use my soundcard anymore |
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| 11:12.19 | cahoot | siimo: look at bugs.debian.org |
| 11:12.20 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: ahhhhh... so you don't know the difference between a "window manager" and a "desktop manager"!!! ;) |
| 11:12.22 | Eulex | DJ-Marcuzz, use something like xsetroot |
| 11:12.50 | cahoot | siimo: what alsa version? |
| 11:12.57 | DJ-Marcuzz | zorgan, i tought thay were about the same? :$ |
| 11:13.00 | Eulex | DJ-Marcuzz, and if you want to have some speed when running vnc, just use a solid background color and no wallpaper image |
| 11:13.11 | siimo | cahoot: 1.0.11 |
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| 11:13.53 | cahoot | siimo: and libasound? |
| 11:13.59 | war92 | Anyone know if there is a font that is square? ie , 10x10 pixels? |
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| 11:14.30 | siimo | cahoot: same 1.0.11-5 |
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| 11:15.04 | freelancer | everning |
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| 11:15.07 | redblades | I got stuck at stage 4 |
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| 11:15.09 | cahoot | siimo: /proc/asound exists? |
| 11:15.16 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: window manager just manage the windows... they don't have background nor session management (typically) |
| 11:15.17 | redblades | Step 4: Building and installing the nvidia kernel module |
| 11:15.18 | redblades | Build the kernel module package: |
| 11:15.18 | redblades | > m-a a-i -i -t -f nvidia-kernel |
| 11:15.22 | redblades | Sorry |
| 11:15.29 | freelancer | how are we all? |
| 11:15.48 | siimo | cahoot: yeah its there.. everything was working.. i was playing music but i closed music player then opened again and now it cant open sound |
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| 11:15.55 | zorgan | anyone is having problems with X.org 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6? |
| 11:15.59 | goron | I would like to have something like this:http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=81 , but also Linux supported. |
| 11:16.00 | siimo | "couldn't open audio" |
| 11:16.12 | DJ-Marcuzz | zorgan, i just need some login screen now and i dunnow if there is an small desktop manager that takes some icons or such? |
| 11:16.13 | cahoot | siimo: tried fuser -v /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p? |
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| 11:16.17 | goron | Any suggestions? |
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| 11:17.03 | siimo | cahoot: that returns nothing |
| 11:17.23 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: then stick to xfce |
| 11:17.27 | redblades | Any one here who can help? |
| 11:17.30 | cahoot | siimo: aplay also ? |
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| 11:18.00 | DJ-Marcuzz | zorgan, fluxbox is perfect, i just need an login screen :P (i think thats called an session manager) |
| 11:18.03 | phogg | redblades: not unless you tell us what the error is |
| 11:18.06 | cahoot | siimo: aplay /usr/share/sounds/*wav |
| 11:18.14 | redblades | Oh sorry. |
| 11:18.18 | siimo | cahoot: i got static when i tried to aplay an mp3 |
| 11:18.19 | Eulex | DJ-Marcuzz, close. display manager |
| 11:18.28 | Eulex | siimo, man aplay |
| 11:18.29 | phogg | DJ-Marcuzz: use gdm. It's the best. |
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| 11:18.36 | redblades | Package nvidia-kernel-source is not available, but is referred to by another p ackage. |
| 11:18.37 | redblades | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 11:18.37 | redblades | is only available from another source |
| 11:18.37 | redblades | E: Package nvidia-kernel-source has no installation candidate |
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| 11:18.40 | siimo | cahoot: its working.... |
| 11:18.41 | DJ-Marcuzz | phogg, and uge for an server |
| 11:18.48 | siimo | cahoot: i can play gaim sounds through aply |
| 11:18.51 | siimo | aplay |
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| 11:18.57 | cahoot | siimo: might be the other app is faulty - not alsa per se |
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| 11:19.03 | redblades | Sorry again |
| 11:19.04 | phogg | DJ-Marcuzz: if you're looking for simple try wdm |
| 11:19.11 | Eulex | siimo, aplay plays voc, wav, raw or au. not mp3. |
| 11:19.21 | x-x- | redblades: install nvidia-glx |
| 11:19.28 | cahoot | Eulex: well you get static - that's fine as test |
| 11:19.36 | siimo | cahoot: thats quite hard ... cause all apps: beep-media-player, totem, xine, and VLC stopped working |
| 11:19.49 | Eulex | cahoot, indeed |
| 11:19.55 | redblades | smae response |
| 11:20.04 | cahoot | siimo: alsa per se works as expected |
| 11:20.09 | redblades | ***smae |
| 11:20.11 | zorgan | DJ-Marcuzz: I don't think that is possible... can be wrong though |
| 11:20.13 | redblades | ***same |
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| 11:20.42 | us0r | where is the option to enable cramfs in the kernel config? |
| 11:20.48 | siimo | ive tried restarting alsa a few times |
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| 11:21.04 | cahoot | siimo: alsa isn't the problem according aplay |
| 11:21.07 | x-x- | redblades: you have unstable anabled? |
| 11:21.26 | MarcoPau | my xmms and firefox can't read files with umlaut and stuff. what should I check? |
| 11:21.36 | redblades | No |
| 11:21.37 | MarcoPau | locales are utf8 |
| 11:21.38 | x-x- | redblades: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/nvidia-glx |
| 11:21.40 | siimo | cahoot: ok weird now everything working again.. lol...... |
| 11:21.44 | zorgan | siimo: check esd |
| 11:22.06 | redblades | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.13 | siimo | i apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to another server and it seemed to replace my libasound again |
| 11:22.28 | siimo | maybe there was a fix and my mirror was out of date |
| 11:22.31 | DJ-Marcuzz | wdm+fluxbox may do the task |
| 11:22.32 | cahoot | siimo: just needed a good purgatory (aplay) |
| 11:22.42 | siimo | lol |
| 11:22.48 | siimo | thanks... im leaving |
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| 11:23.05 | x-x- | redblades: no |
| 11:23.26 | freelancer | hrmm...what to do tonight... |
| 11:23.33 | liable | redblades: um, you dont. just get the package. if it needs depends, then you will have to pin it or download all the depends. (and there depends) |
| 11:23.53 | liable | !what should we do tonight? |
| 11:23.59 | liable | meh |
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| 11:24.11 | us0r | <redblades>: it should be there. make sure you have valid sources and at the end where it says "main" make it "main contrib non-free" |
| 11:24.20 | us0r | then update |
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| 11:24.32 | ootput | is there a way for me to get a listing of my most recent apt-get upgrade's? |
| 11:24.36 | x-x- | redblades: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto#using-a-repository |
| 11:24.44 | locus_ | does anyone have a howto (or can tell me) how to access external usb hard drives on sarge? |
| 11:24.50 | redblades | It's okay I think I can work it out from here |
| 11:24.51 | ootput | alsao is being a problem in sid |
| 11:24.57 | cahoot | ootput: should've used aptitude that keeps a log |
| 11:25.23 | redblades | I'm doing this in my exam break, so I'm kinda rushing |
| 11:25.25 | us0r | anyone know where cramfs support is kept in the kernel config? |
| 11:25.36 | freelancer | think I better read that page also... |
| 11:25.50 | cahoot | us0r: file-systems? |
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| 11:26.16 | phogg | pseudo-filesystems, I believe |
| 11:26.23 | us0r | cahoot: checked several times...either i'm blind or its not there |
| 11:26.34 | cahoot | us0r: hit / and search |
| 11:26.36 | us0r | redblades: add contrib and non-free to the end of your apt line, update, and it'll be there |
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| 11:27.18 | ootput | are any of you using mplayer in sid? |
| 11:27.23 | us0r | cahoot: in the menuconfig?? where are you saying i should search in? |
| 11:27.29 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:27.29 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:27.37 | phogg | ootput: mplayer isn't in sid, is it? |
| 11:27.57 | ootput | if so, does this look familiar: mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
| 11:28.06 | ootput | phogg: using mplayer while in sid |
| 11:28.11 | freelancer | <--bored |
| 11:28.13 | apecat | does anyone happen to know of some tool that i could use to monitor smb connctions and what files they access on my box? |
| 11:28.17 | lvalue | ootput you need to compile it yourself |
| 11:28.33 | ootput | lvalue: compile which? |
| 11:28.39 | cahoot | us0r: yes - hit '/' in menuconfig and search |
| 11:29.03 | lvalue | ootput afaik mplayer is not part of debian |
| 11:29.05 | us0r | cahoot: ahh...thank you. it was already enabled, so i guess it's something else |
| 11:29.07 | ootput | us0r: grep CRAMFS /usr/src/linux/.cofnig |
| 11:29.21 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.18 | cahoot | ootput seems rather old - if that denotes the alsa version mplayer extects |
| 11:30.19 | phogg | ootput: make sure your alsa libs and headers are in sync and recompile mplayer |
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| 11:31.08 | jonaskoelker | okay, this is interesting: when I run screen as root, I get /var/run/screen/S-root/4495.pts-0.jonaskoelker: No such file or directory |
| 11:31.13 | jonaskoelker | what can I do about that? |
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| 11:31.38 | cahoot | jonaskoelker: run as user and su |
| 11:32.03 | redblades | us0r, how exactly do you mean? |
| 11:32.09 | ootput | i've notified marillat by email as I'm using his repo |
| 11:32.44 | jonaskoelker | cahoot: I did (as jonas) "screen -c /dev/null; su; screen;", didn't change a thing |
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| 11:33.50 | ootput | jonaskoelker: read/write permissions? |
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| 11:34.28 | freelancer | which is better sendmail or exim? |
| 11:34.28 | us0r | redblades: example:: change "deb http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/debian/ stable main" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "deb http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/debian/ stable main contrib non-free" and run "apt-get update" |
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| 11:34.36 | jonaskoelker | ootput: for S-root, drwx------ |
| 11:34.37 | Youpi | qmail |
| 11:34.48 | ootput | urgh, qmail |
| 11:34.59 | jonaskoelker | now, now, stay calm. |
| 11:35.05 | jonaskoelker | that being said, urgh :D |
| 11:35.25 | Youpi | freelancer: what are your needs |
| 11:35.35 | quitte | whee. xen finally works for me |
| 11:35.39 | Youpi | freelancer: wich one do you know better :) |
| 11:36.20 | freelancer | I know both of them about the same - little... |
| 11:36.33 | quitte | just a warning. beware the xen package in sid if you want xen3. and if you are upgrading from xen2 to xen3 use a normal kernel to do that. |
| 11:37.01 | jonaskoelker | perhaps it's useful to know that I (trying to) run the root screen inside a screen belonging to jonas |
| 11:37.03 | phogg | freelancer: if there's a reason to use sendmail, use sendmail. Otherwise use anything else. |
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| 11:37.16 | ootput | jonaskoelker: ah |
| 11:37.21 | phogg | jonaskoelker: yes, that is useful to know. |
| 11:38.01 | freelancer | k... |
| 11:38.02 | jonaskoelker | .. and that that I accidentally catted /etc/ld.so.cache |
| 11:38.25 | jonaskoelker | (inside a root screen which I then closed down, along with the jonas-screen shell) |
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| 11:39.04 | freelancer | makes no difference I gather... |
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| 11:39.58 | jonaskoelker | hmm.. ls -l /dev/pts/9: crw------- |
| 11:40.26 | us0r | that work, redblades? |
| 11:41.49 | freelancer | thats where one points apt-get to? |
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| 11:44.12 | dacer | K|NgGh0sT, |
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| 11:45.15 | quitte | dacer: more success? |
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| 11:45.32 | dacer | quitte, not |
| 11:45.46 | outlaw84 | any idea what I should do about this? http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/~mihaly/cvsd |
| 11:45.47 | redblades | Nope |
| 11:45.58 | redblades | Sorry, us0r |
| 11:46.04 | Dougl[a]s | my debian is freaking |
| 11:46.04 | stav | Do you speak Russian? |
| 11:46.14 | redblades | russian? |
| 11:46.18 | Dougl[a]s | http://pastebin.com/740997 |
| 11:46.19 | redblades | !russian |
| 11:46.19 | dpkg | russian is probably Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 11:46.57 | stav | dpkg, ogromnoe spasibo!!! |
| 11:46.59 | CoolCubix | outlaw84> maybe you should translate it into english for other user could understand it... |
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| 11:47.12 | redblades | dougl[a]s ??? still using woody? |
| 11:47.12 | Dougl[a]s | hm |
| 11:47.16 | Dougl[a]s | it's sarge |
| 11:47.29 | redblades | huh? |
| 11:47.36 | Dougl[a]s | its debian sarge |
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| 11:48.09 | Dougl[a]s | debian-31r2-i386-netinst |
| 11:48.12 | outlaw84 | CoolCubix: well most of it is in english |
| 11:48.13 | Dougl[a]s | that's sarge, yes? |
| 11:48.14 | jonaskoelker | hm... can anyone explain to me why chvt should be root-only |
| 11:48.19 | Dougl[a]s | @ redblades |
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| 11:48.32 | liable | yes its sarge |
| 11:48.39 | Dougl[a]s | Any idea how to fix? |
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| 11:49.01 | pawdro | is it safe to repartition my ext3 partition using Partition Magic 8? will debian works afterwards? |
| 11:49.17 | Eulex | outlaw84, the most important parts in there are swedish. try LANG=C command |
| 11:49.32 | Dougl[a]s | liable |
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| 11:50.52 | outlaw84 | so try the link again http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/~mihaly/cvsd |
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| 11:51.05 | pawdro | is it safe? |
| 11:51.17 | Mazingaro | please, I've got a problem with artsd it segfaults at start |
| 11:51.20 | quitte | sH4: asin in superHitachi? |
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| 11:52.16 | sH4 | qyitte // ?? |
| 11:52.26 | outlaw84 | pawdro: safe, I have done it |
| 11:52.37 | pawdro | ok |
| 11:52.39 | quitte | sH4: ok nevermind. sh4 is the cpu used in e.g. the dreamcast |
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| 11:53.29 | sH4 | cpu used? |
| 11:53.39 | quitte | sigh |
| 11:53.54 | Eulex | any command out there which can randomize the order in a list of files in bash? |
| 11:53.57 | quitte | sH4: cpu in dreamcast is sh4 |
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| 11:54.25 | Dougl[a]s | Anyone? |
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| 11:54.50 | Mazingaro | please, I've got a problem with artsd it segfaults at start (unstable) |
| 11:54.58 | sH4 | quitte // ^ ^ |
| 11:55.16 | Eulex | Mazingaro, checked the bts? |
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| 11:55.36 | Mazingaro | bug tracking? |
| 11:55.39 | Mazingaro | Eulex: bug tracking? |
| 11:55.45 | Eulex | Mazingaro, yes |
| 11:55.51 | Mazingaro | Eulex: yes, no problem like this |
| 11:55.58 | sH4 | quitte//where r u from..? |
| 11:56.16 | quitte | sH4: .de |
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| 11:56.37 | sH4 | .de? where is .de ? |
| 11:56.47 | Eulex | !de |
| 11:56.47 | dpkg | i heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net - German speaking users please go to #debian.de either here on freenode or on irc.oftc.net |
| 11:56.59 | sH4 | German ? |
| 11:57.02 | quitte | yes |
| 11:58.02 | sH4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.19 | quitte | sH4: hi |
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| 11:58.48 | Blondas77 | Oi! |
| 11:59.11 | Eulex | !oi |
| 11:59.11 | dpkg | I have a name you know. |
| 11:59.46 | sH4 | quitte // have a nice day : ) |
| 12:00.20 | quitte | sH4: i will, thanks. have a nice day,too |
| 12:00.33 | UnderToe | I have a problem with my firewall router -- I've got two networks connected to it as well as an internet connection. from either net, internet access works, but I cannot access one net from the other. I have changed my iptables policy to be default of accept on forward, /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is set to 1, and ip route get returns the expected results. Any ideas? |
| 12:01.38 | dacer | quitte, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:01.51 | liable | dacer: ? |
| 12:01.51 | dacer | quitte, I get to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:02.11 | Eulex | !!!! |
| 12:02.12 | blondie | x.x |
| 12:02.13 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 12:02.17 | dacer | liable, sorry, I get mythtv to work :) |
| 12:02.18 | quitte | dacer ok. stop that. whats up? |
| 12:02.46 | schoinobates | UnderToe, are you letting the packets in/out in the in/out chains? |
| 12:03.01 | dacer | quitte, stop myth? I don't understand you |
| 12:03.03 | liable | dacer: cool. please ease off on the exclamation marks though |
| 12:03.11 | UnderToe | actually, at the moment I have all chains set to a default policy of accept |
| 12:03.17 | dacer | sotty liable |
| 12:03.21 | dacer | sorry |
| 12:03.24 | schoinobates | And no rules? |
| 12:03.24 | quitte | dacer: i meant the exclamation marks |
| 12:03.50 | quitte | dacer ok really great. and channel names fit the channels you can select? |
| 12:03.59 | UnderToe | I have rules to forward between interfaces and to masquerade to the internet connection |
| 12:04.04 | UnderToe | but that is all |
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| 12:04.45 | UnderToe | at one point I had a rather built firewall script, but I rewrote it to be extremely simple out of frustration to try and get the two networks talking |
| 12:04.46 | dacer | quitte, do you ask, If channel numbers are what I want? 1,2,3,4... |
| 12:05.22 | blondie | !offtopic |
| 12:05.25 | blondie | bah |
| 12:05.37 | schoinobates | Hmmm... Could you show me the exact rules you have? (Not on the channel, by private message or on a pastebin) |
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| 12:07.06 | outlaw84 | any idea what I should do about this? http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/~mihaly/cvsd |
| 12:07.18 | quitte | dacer: yes, but they also should have the names of the stations |
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| 12:07.33 | UnderToe | Hmm, looks like I need to register in order to pm you and I'm not sure what a pastebin is |
| 12:07.38 | UnderToe | I will register |
| 12:07.40 | dacer | quitte, now I have same number as station |
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| 12:08.20 | dacer | I am looking on mythconverg database, a channel table, a field called channum |
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| 12:08.43 | phoohb | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.43 | phoohb | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.43 | phoohb | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.43 | phoohb | /_//_/\__/_/_/\___/ /____/\__/_.__/_/\_,_/_//_/ /_/ \___/_/_/\_\/___(_) |
| 12:08.43 | phoohb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:08.45 | dacer | now it have 501, 502, 503 .... |
| 12:08.56 | quitte | dacer: ok good look. now come the parts that i have to do myself |
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| 12:09.10 | quitte | err good luck |
| 12:09.11 | schoinobates | UnderToe, you can use http://channels.debian.net/paste as a pastebin. |
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| 12:09.37 | schoinobates | Just put the text there, you'll get a URL, give us the URL. |
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| 12:09.51 | dacer | quitte, whats your problem? |
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| 12:10.16 | war92 | Does anyone here use JBOD in Linux? If you lose a disk, you only 'supposedly' lose the data on that disk, right? |
| 12:10.30 | freelancer | hrmm... |
| 12:10.38 | freelancer | now what should I apt-get :-} |
| 12:10.45 | Dougl[a]s | how do i fix it! |
| 12:10.47 | Dougl[a]s | damnit. |
| 12:11.07 | quitte | dacer: haven't found out,yet how to give names to the stations add icons and sort them the way i want |
| 12:11.34 | dacer | quitte, do you look mythconverg database? |
| 12:11.39 | quitte | dacer: at the moment the station ids are unusable. completely unsorted and no way to guess what station you get by a name |
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| 12:12.12 | quitte | dacer: no. unfortunately the machine i want to do this on is 5km away. so mythconverg is whatever i should look at? |
| 12:12.19 | dacer | do you try to edit this table? |
| 12:12.50 | dacer | quitte, you can not login to mysql? |
| 12:12.51 | quitte | dacer: i dont think so. spent most of my time with trying to get lirc running |
| 12:13.17 | dacer | quitte, my lirc seems to work, at least numbers |
| 12:13.18 | quitte | dacer: no. that machine has no proper forwarding. cant access it over the net :( |
| 12:13.26 | dacer | (I don't do anything) |
| 12:13.31 | quitte | dacer: wow. |
| 12:13.33 | UnderToe | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2656 |
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| 12:14.36 | dacer | quitte, I don't know why lirc work on my machine, if you want I look some? |
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| 12:15.02 | jonaskoelker | I have some packages which have been uninstalled with config files left behind. When I dpkg -L them, I get told they don't have any installed files. Is this normal? |
| 12:15.08 | jonaskoelker | .. and/or to be expected? |
| 12:15.27 | quitte | dacer: no. not necessary. i just was too tired and left last time i tried after i finally got the driver for lirc working. i guess that was the hardest part for me. |
| 12:15.39 | quitte | dacer: it needed lirc 0.8 which is not in debian |
| 12:15.52 | tiagosab | Hi! I've just installed etch and I keep getting 'cpu overload' for artsd, what should I do? |
| 12:15.58 | MoDaX | Dougl[a]s: edit /etc/apt/sources.list. remove lines with woody |
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| 12:16.09 | Zugschlus | freelancer: if you have to ask that, use postfix |
| 12:16.17 | dacer | I have debian, and only 0.7.2-2 |
| 12:16.40 | quitte | dacer: heh. you're lucky your card works with it |
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| 12:16.58 | dacer | quitte, :) |
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| 12:16.59 | Dougl[a]s | er |
| 12:17.01 | Dougl[a]s | MoDaX |
| 12:17.01 | Dougl[a]s | deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody module-init-tools initrd-tools procps |
| 12:17.03 | Dougl[a]s | just that? |
| 12:17.04 | freelancer | Zugschlus ? |
| 12:17.07 | quitte | dacer: but i already get all keypresses properly in irw. cant be that hard now |
| 12:17.07 | dacer | quitte, sorry for you |
| 12:17.10 | schoinobates | These rules indeed should not get in the way of reaching one network from the other. |
| 12:17.12 | MoDaX | Dougl[a]s: yes |
| 12:17.19 | freelancer | hrmm my apt-get still uses the cd... |
| 12:17.23 | Dougl[a]s | done |
| 12:17.32 | Dougl[a]s | MoDaX |
| 12:17.36 | Dougl[a]s | does it require a reboot |
| 12:17.41 | MoDaX | Dougl[a]s: no |
| 12:17.47 | UnderToe | which leaves me confused ;) |
| 12:17.53 | schoinobates | I must warn you, though, that the masquerade line looks very broad, you are accepting to masquerade for the outer world. |
| 12:18.12 | UnderToe | yea, those rules are very temporary |
| 12:18.20 | schoinobates | (if someone on the internet uses you as a router, you accept it and masquerade him on your IP) |
| 12:18.32 | schoinobates | So. You can ping both networks from the router? |
| 12:18.34 | Dougl[a]s | works |
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| 12:18.45 | UnderToe | yes, I can |
| 12:18.45 | dacer | quitte, K|NgGh0sT have some problem with channel or something do you think I solve? |
| 12:19.05 | freelancer | Zugschlus what was I asking? |
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| 12:19.21 | schoinobates | Do the machines on the network have the right route tables, too? |
| 12:19.22 | quitte | dacer: what is your problem? |
| 12:19.34 | schoinobates | (just going over the little stupid reasons first) |
| 12:19.41 | dacer | quitte, no |
| 12:19.55 | UnderToe | well, it was my understanding that I don't have to have special routes as long as the firewall is listed as the default gateway |
| 12:20.00 | dacer | quitte, K|NgGh0sT had some problem with mythtv, isn't it? |
| 12:20.08 | schoinobates | yes, that's what I meant. |
| 12:20.18 | schoinobates | "the right IP as default gateway". |
| 12:20.27 | UnderToe | ok, yes, that is the case |
| 12:20.29 | quitte | dacer: yes. but i think it might have been that he just didnt notice he had to answer things in the terminal |
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| 12:21.19 | schoinobates | OK. If you run tcpdump on the router (in non-promiscuous mode), do you see the packets come in? |
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| 12:21.27 | dacer | quitte, ok, as K|NgGh0sT are not here, do you want my email, so you or K|NgGh0sT can ask me anything |
| 12:21.35 | UnderToe | if I ping from one network to the other I can see the icmp packet(with tcpdump) hit the interface of the firewall for the network on which the packet originated, but I cannot see that icmp packet on the other interface that it should leave from |
| 12:22.01 | schoinobates | You see it in non-promiscuous mode, right? |
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| 12:22.10 | ootput | urgh, silly isp bandwidth cap |
| 12:22.14 | Dougl[a]s | hm |
| 12:22.18 | Dougl[a]s | after updating kernel |
| 12:22.21 | Dougl[a]s | reboot is necessary |
| 12:22.21 | Dougl[a]s | yes? |
| 12:22.25 | UnderToe | hmmm, I will run tcpdump again in non-promisc |
| 12:22.37 | cahoot | Dougl[a]s: to use the new kernel - yes |
| 12:24.01 | quitte | dacer: /msg memoserv help |
| 12:24.23 | UnderToe | ok, yes. I do see the pings in non-promiscuous mode |
| 12:25.50 | schoinobates | Have you taken a look at "iptables -L -v" and "iptables -t nat -L -v"? |
| 12:26.01 | dacer | quitte, I don't hace my nick register |
| 12:26.17 | quitte | dacer: then do that |
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| 12:27.16 | UnderToe | I have |
| 12:27.29 | schoinobates | pff... |
| 12:27.40 | Dougl[a]s | it says kernel panic. |
| 12:27.49 | dacer | quitte, ok |
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| 12:28.34 | UnderToe | this is one of the weirdest problems I've had with a firewall router -- I've built them in the past, but this one I just can't quite get to do what I want |
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| 12:29.18 | schoinobates | Yeah, quite weird. |
| 12:29.32 | UnderToe | I first thought it was a firewall problem, then a route problem, and then back to firewall, and I haven't found any reason why it shouldn't be working |
| 12:29.51 | phoohb | Hello Debian Folks! (why was my previuse host banned, becouse of flood? And how long will my default host be banned??) |
| 12:30.07 | UnderToe | I'm wondering if I should completely re-install it |
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| 12:30.15 | ArchitectSinan | hi all |
| 12:30.27 | ArchitectSinan | i'm configuring a server with 4 GB memory |
| 12:30.34 | ArchitectSinan | but my sarge installation |
| 12:30.47 | ArchitectSinan | doesn't let me partition more than 2.8 GB swap memory |
| 12:30.52 | ArchitectSinan | Is it normal ? |
| 12:31.01 | liable | phoohb: you need to ask an op about that or a freenode staffer |
| 12:31.12 | callee | is there some webcam daemon enabling remote view of a webcam via a network? |
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| 12:31.28 | liable | ArchitectSinan: try and use punctuation instead of enter |
| 12:31.56 | Gnea | callee: camE |
| 12:31.56 | ArchitectSinan | liable: thx, i just try |
| 12:31.59 | schoinobates | Oh! |
| 12:32.09 | phoohb | liable: I will sleep on it... |
| 12:32.24 | UnderToe | sounds like something clicked |
| 12:32.34 | ArchitectSinan | þ |
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| 12:32.40 | schoinobates | I thought so, but no, I got confused. |
| 12:32.43 | ArchitectSinan | liable: it says too large size |
| 12:32.51 | UnderToe | darn ;) |
| 12:33.06 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: is that a swap partition or swap file? |
| 12:33.27 | callee | Gnea: i want to view a videostream within a browser, probably via a java application |
| 12:33.30 | schoinobates | The /sbin/ip route get result is weird (I'm not used to it), but I get the same one my machine. |
| 12:33.39 | callee | just do not find the app i once had installed anymore |
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| 12:33.58 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: Swap partition |
| 12:34.06 | schoinobates | It says "src 192.168.1.1" when sending to network "192.168.2.0/24", but this seems normal. |
| 12:34.07 | UnderToe | yea, I'm not used to iproute2 myself -- I usually have just used the route command |
| 12:34.13 | Gnea | !tell callee about install java |
| 12:34.25 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: that's weird - are you using the 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 12:34.27 | callee | Gnea: dont wanna install java on the server, client has already java |
| 12:35.09 | Gnea | callee: dunno, but camE is a debian solution |
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| 12:35.31 | Gnea | callee: and feh has the ability to read webcam streams as well |
| 12:35.38 | jhenn | are the ralink wireless cards supported in sarge? |
| 12:35.39 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: how can i check , i'm in straightforward installation |
| 12:35.50 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: i didn't specify any boot parameter |
| 12:35.57 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: you just hit enter? |
| 12:36.01 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: yep |
| 12:36.05 | Gnea | 2.4 |
| 12:36.08 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: 3.1r1 sarge |
| 12:36.18 | Gnea | ok, try restarting, but try: boot: linux26<enter> |
| 12:36.41 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: ok, now i just try :) thx |
| 12:36.59 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: and tell here what's going on |
| 12:37.12 | Gnea | k |
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| 12:37.46 | insidius | Even though this is the debian section would it be possible to get some help with proftpd on my debian install? |
| 12:37.51 | UnderToe | I think I'm going to copy my fwbuilder config off of it and reinstall debian -- I don't remember how I had it configured originally, and I wonder if something was missed(it's been up and running with a single network and the internet for a while now and I'm just adding the second net). |
| 12:37.54 | schoinobates | Undertoe, what is the value of /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/forwarding? |
| 12:38.02 | UnderToe | hmm |
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| 12:38.55 | UnderToe | they're all 1 |
| 12:39.06 | Gnea | insidius: don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 12:39.13 | insidius | heh |
| 12:39.53 | Gnea | !tell insidius about ask |
| 12:39.57 | insidius | I want ppl to be able to get access to a folder on my system by connecting to ftp.example.com. But it keeps asking for a username and password |
| 12:40.23 | Gnea | so you want anonymous ftp? |
| 12:40.27 | insidius | Yeah |
| 12:40.32 | insidius | I could of sworn it set it up right |
| 12:40.36 | Gnea | well proftpd doesn't do that by default |
| 12:40.48 | Gnea | but i think the docs that come with it explain it pretty well |
| 12:40.50 | insidius | I would have to edit the config right? |
| 12:40.54 | Gnea | yup |
| 12:40.56 | insidius | Well i have done that |
| 12:41.08 | Gnea | how are you running it? inetd or daemon? |
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| 12:41.16 | insidius | inetd i think ill check |
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| 12:41.37 | insidius | Which one is standalone? |
| 12:41.42 | Gnea | daemon |
| 12:41.52 | insidius | ahh ok im running daemon then |
| 12:42.10 | Gnea | ok, when you made the changes, did you restart? |
| 12:42.25 | insidius | yeah |
| 12:42.30 | Gnea | how? |
| 12:42.31 | insidius | I got a little further in |
| 12:42.39 | insidius | /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 12:42.42 | schoinobates | No further idea, UnderToe . |
| 12:42.44 | schoinobates | Sorry. |
| 12:42.46 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: Now it let me select 2.7 GB as maximum swap partition size :( |
| 12:42.57 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: I'm on kernel 2.6 |
| 12:43.00 | apt-abhi | h1 there |
| 12:43.07 | UnderToe | thanks anyway ;) It's just good to know I'm not the only one stumped with this one. |
| 12:43.08 | insidius | Gnea i will let you help architect |
| 12:43.16 | Eulex | ArchitectSinan, umh, do you really need more than 2.7 gb swap? |
| 12:43.30 | UnderToe | I'll try a reinstall on it later... perhaps some different hardware |
| 12:43.38 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: do that for now, and leave a spare 1.3 gig free on the disk during partitioning - you can go back and fix it later, just make sure that you place the swap partition at the end of the disk |
| 12:43.38 | apt-abhi | my debian's apt-get not working , the problem is "pre-processing error" |
| 12:43.42 | ArchitectSinan | Eulex: I've got 4 GB memory. Which size i should have swap ? |
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| 12:43.56 | azeem | apt-abhi: paste the error on a pastebin |
| 12:43.58 | azeem | !paster |
| 12:43.58 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 12:43.59 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: ok |
| 12:44.17 | Gnea | insidius: what's the logfiles say about it? |
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| 12:45.48 | insidius | What log would i check |
| 12:45.52 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: Now i've got 69.5 primary ext3, 1.3 G FREE SPACE and at the end 2.7 GB swap |
| 12:46.00 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.14 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: sounds good |
| 12:46.23 | insidius | yeah thats what i thought |
| 12:46.31 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: Should i choose "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" ? |
| 12:46.38 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: and go on ? |
| 12:46.38 | insidius | Wierdly enough i dont have any references to proftpd in /var/log |
| 12:46.43 | [bsd] | hi, friends! |
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| 12:47.23 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: yeah |
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| 12:47.35 | Gnea | insidius: that's weird |
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| 12:47.45 | Gnea | insidius: try /var/log/syslog then - tail -f |
| 12:47.49 | insidius | Thats wht im thinking |
| 12:48.09 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: AFAIK, you'll change my swap file after std installation ? |
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| 12:48.49 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: i mean base installation |
| 12:48.49 | insidius | ok its not logging anything in syslog, however i can now give a username for the ftp and then its goes ok and asks for a password |
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| 12:49.04 | insidius | I am confused on this one, but am going to keep trying :-) |
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| 12:50.03 | insidius | Is it possible i would need a virtual host entry for it in apache? I would think now |
| 12:50.05 | insidius | not* |
| 12:51.18 | insidius | Ok i think i may not what im doing wrong |
| 12:51.28 | ArchitectSinan | is there anybody ? |
| 12:51.28 | insidius | I have to create a new user for the anon ftp i think |
| 12:51.38 | ArchitectSinan | thank god i got a msg |
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| 12:53.34 | PLATER | hi. can anyone help me with config of hostap for Senao SL-2511CD PLus wlan card? i can even pay some money for good help !! pm me please |
| 12:53.38 | winstein | i need glx for fullscreen view in mplayer. how to get it? |
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| 12:55.36 | Trewas | winstein: umm, isn't xvideo enough, why do you need opengl for displaying full-screen video? |
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| 12:56.45 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: AFAIK, you'll change my swap file after base installation ? |
| 12:56.51 | winstein | Trewas: folks in mplayer says i need xv for fullscreen and i need glx in use xv. |
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| 12:57.07 | winstein | i need glx to use xv. |
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| 12:57.44 | winstein | right now i bomb out if i choose xv for vo in mplayer. |
| 12:57.58 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: no, you'll be doing that, i'll be doing something else |
| 12:58.18 | blondie | Gnea: how mean of you! |
| 12:58.35 | Gnea | blondie: it's mean to be truthful and real? |
| 12:58.37 | Trewas | winstein: weird, xvideo should be quite orthogonal to glx |
| 12:58.46 | blondie | Gnea: very! |
| 12:58.47 | Gnea | if you can't handle the truth, then you can't handle debian. |
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| 12:58.57 | dj-death | Hi all |
| 12:58.58 | Gnea | blondie: hahaha |
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| 12:59.29 | winstein | Trewas: apparently not. is glx an option in xorg config? |
| 12:59.31 | [bsd] | all my installed packages are uptodate, but kdeinit is not starting after apt-get dist-upgrade kde-3.5.2-2+b1 |
| 12:59.47 | insidius | Damn im just not getting it here |
| 12:59.56 | dj-death | does someone know why I cant enable dma on /dev/hda ? |
| 13:00.02 | winstein | Trewas: can u recall the command to reconfig xorg? |
| 13:00.07 | dj-death | hdparm says operation not permitted |
| 13:00.08 | insidius | Gnea do you think you could take a look if i pasted my config in #flood? |
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| 13:00.23 | Gnea | insidius: not in #flood, but the website, sure |
| 13:00.24 | Gnea | !paster |
| 13:00.24 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 13:00.33 | charzero | Has anybody gotten vim70 to compile on etch, or a vim70 .deb? |
| 13:00.38 | cahoot | dj-death: compiled a miscofiguredkernel wrt ide chipset? |
| 13:00.40 | Gnea | charzero: no. |
| 13:00.54 | cahoot | dj-death: err compiled a misconfigured kernel wrt ide chipset? |
| 13:01.08 | dj-death | cahoot: I'm using official debian kernel |
| 13:01.13 | Trewas | winstein: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or was it some other package, I'm not sure), but I'd guess glx is enabled by defaultif the driver supports it |
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| 13:01.40 | blondie | why doesn't channels.debian.net/paste have a pastebot? |
| 13:01.50 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: hahahaha :D |
| 13:01.52 | cahoot | dj-death: check dmesg |
| 13:01.54 | winstein | Trewas: thks, this is the command. |
| 13:02.07 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: thx for all bro :) |
| 13:02.12 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: no problem :) |
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| 13:02.39 | insidius | oh oh, now normal ftp in my user dir does not work lol |
| 13:02.45 | insidius | Jeez im doing well tonight |
| 13:03.03 | dj-death | cahoot: nothing |
| 13:03.17 | cahoot | dj-death: nothing regarding dma? |
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| 13:03.37 | redblades | Umm... Hi! |
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| 13:03.45 | redblades | I'm using OO.o |
| 13:03.47 | dj-death | cahoot: exact |
| 13:04.06 | [bsd] | here is error message http://channels.debian.net/paste/2660 |
| 13:04.15 | redblades | when I hit enter(or return) It seems to jump two lines, or a huge single line |
| 13:04.33 | cahoot | dj-death: dmesg|grep -i dma - returns nil? |
| 13:05.41 | dj-death | cahoot: yes |
| 13:05.50 | dj-death | cahoot: I probably need a reboot |
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| 13:06.07 | dj-death | acpi errors are filling my dmesg syslog etc .. |
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| 13:06.36 | cahoot | dj-death: try reboot with acpi=off |
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| 13:07.54 | jhenn | hi. can i do a full (extremely basic) install with just disc 1? |
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| 13:11.01 | blondie | jhenn: affirmative |
| 13:12.17 | redblades | when I hit enter(or return) It seems to jump two lines, or a huge single line |
| 13:12.24 | jhenn | nice |
| 13:12.25 | redblades | any idea? (in OO.o) |
| 13:12.34 | jhenn | !ideas |
| 13:12.54 | redblades | HA HA... umm... |
| 13:12.56 | redblades | HA! |
| 13:12.59 | Coweater | redblades: hit ctrl-1, you may have double spacing enabled |
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| 13:14.36 | redblades | That didn't work |
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| 13:16.00 | jhenn | wow im suprised to see that debian has the same installer as ubuntu. im guessing they "stole" that, eh? |
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| 13:17.16 | redblades | Okay, I inseted some fomulae into the *2nd* column. when I try to jump to the next line with enter, It moves them down as well |
| 13:17.27 | redblades | I just want to start a new line and I can't! |
| 13:17.36 | redblades | (unless I tab there) |
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| 13:18.32 | jhenn | redblades: #openoffice? |
| 13:18.42 | fourat | is it possible that i get a deb package from a .tgz make'able' package ? |
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| 13:22.55 | yang | does apt-get update gets logged somehwere ? when it was executed? |
| 13:25.27 | cusco | good question |
| 13:25.39 | cusco | it might.. let me look |
| 13:26.16 | cusco | dunno :| |
| 13:26.21 | cusco | ls |
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| 13:26.47 | redblades | nobody is replying in #openoffive |
| 13:26.57 | redblades | well you know what I mean |
| 13:27.04 | Coweater | read the topic there |
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| 13:28.44 | redblades | covener... |
| 13:28.45 | redblades | and? |
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| 13:29.07 | redblades | Oh right |
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| 13:32.30 | fourat | is it possible that i get a deb package from a .tgz make'able' package ? |
| 13:32.48 | Dewi | does anyone have any idea what could be causing strange intermittent network problems, which can look like this? |
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| 13:33.00 | yang | fourat: try package "checkinstall" it creates .deb for you |
| 13:33.03 | Dewi | $ ping www.google.com |
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| 13:33.09 | Dewi | connect: No buffer space available |
| 13:34.29 | Dewi | hmm |
| 13:34.31 | Dewi | May 27 23:34:14 vetch kernel: printk: 39 messages suppressed. |
| 13:34.31 | Dewi | May 27 23:34:14 vetch kernel: Neighbour table overflow. |
| 13:35.07 | yang | Dewi: maybe troubles with printer? |
| 13:35.20 | Dewi | no, it's a network thing |
| 13:35.26 | Dewi | routing is dropping in and out too |
| 13:35.31 | Dewi | but on a host by host basis. very odd. |
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| 13:44.52 | Dewi | it must be a bug in the new kernel I installed today (testing current) |
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| 13:48.46 | kriel | any ideas why a ACPI-enabled motherboard, that was rebooting on command from linux two installs ago, just stalls at the 'rebooting your computer' ? |
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| 13:51.35 | punsad | walked up to my computer and noticed it shutdown... what files should I check out to figure out why it shutdown? I looked at /var/log messages and kern.log and nothing was obvious |
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| 13:52.07 | amee2k | is there a command line tool line wget that supports files larger than 2Gi ? |
| 13:52.25 | azeem | amee2k: you are running sarge/stable? |
| 13:52.31 | amee2k | yep |
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| 13:53.08 | azeem | amee2k: there is a wget backport at backports.org, which should work with large files |
| 13:53.11 | azeem | !backports.org |
| 13:53.11 | dpkg | backports.org is, like, an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Beware that if you add backports.org to your sources.list, you will get *all* backports when you upgrade. Read http://backports.org/instructions.html on how to only get specific backports. ask me about <backports> |
| 13:54.50 | amee2k | hm... i'm not really a fan of this thing. isn't there some other tool that works non-interactively? |
| 13:55.37 | Dewi | amee2k: a backport of a little thing like wget is unlikely to break your whole system |
| 13:55.52 | Dewi | if you really don't trust them, just compile a recent one yourself |
| 13:56.06 | Dewi | and run it from your home dir, nice and safe |
| 13:56.27 | Maulkin | amee2k: you can also have a look at curl |
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| 13:57.20 | mynullvoid | anyone have cibrowser plugin for firefox? |
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| 14:01.10 | charzero | where does debian put wpa_supplicant.conf? |
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| 14:01.27 | dj-death | back |
| 14:01.30 | mynullvoid | charzero: find it ;) |
| 14:01.48 | charzero | mynullvoid: I tried. |
| 14:02.05 | draft | hi |
| 14:02.07 | Gnea | charzero: dpkg --contents /var/cache/apt/archives/wpasupplicant_0.4.8-4_i386.deb | grep wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 14:02.20 | dj-death | cahoot: so dmesg | grep -i dma |
| 14:02.27 | dj-death | cahoot: DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0 |
| 14:02.34 | dj-death | cahoot: DMA32 zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0 |
| 14:02.44 | dj-death | cahoot: [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 431 MBytes. |
| 14:02.47 | draft | could anyone tell me how to change color used by ls to differenciate directories and file please ? |
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| 14:02.57 | dj-death | cahoot: and that's all |
| 14:03.11 | Gnea | draft: edit your ~/.bashrc file |
| 14:03.14 | Maulkin | Gnea: Or shortened to dpkg -L wpasupplicant | grep wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 14:03.23 | dj-death | cahoot: 2.613 works fine |
| 14:03.28 | mynullvoid | charzero: http://www.vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html |
| 14:03.34 | dj-death | cahoot: but udev need 2.6.15 at least now |
| 14:03.47 | Gnea | Maulkin: nice |
| 14:03.58 | draft | Gnea: ok but what must i put in it ? |
| 14:04.04 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: It worked :) i changed swap partition size to 4 GB :) |
| 14:04.11 | Gnea | draft: does it not already exist? |
| 14:04.11 | ArchitectSinan | Gnea: thx :D |
| 14:04.17 | Gnea | ArchitectSinan: good job :) |
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| 14:04.33 | BarryAllen | hi all |
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| 14:04.56 | cahoot | dj-death: what kind of mobo is this? |
| 14:04.59 | BarryAllen | can i talk here about build deb packages? or there are other channel with this propose |
| 14:05.00 | BarryAllen | ? |
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| 14:05.13 | mezoko | Hi |
| 14:05.16 | Gnea | BarryAllen: don't ask to ask, just ask :) |
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| 14:05.26 | dj-death | cahoot: toshiba laptop |
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| 14:05.32 | mezoko | I'm hoping a developer or someone can tell me how they built jade for amd64? |
| 14:05.34 | dj-death | cahoot: centrino 1,7 |
| 14:05.39 | mezoko | As I am having no luck |
| 14:05.58 | cahoot | dj-death: so kernel-2.6.13 has no problem enabling dma? |
| 14:06.05 | Gnea | !amd64 |
| 14:06.05 | dpkg | methinks amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 14:06.08 | dj-death | cahoot: yes |
| 14:06.17 | Gnea | mezoko: tried #debian-amd64? |
| 14:06.27 | mezoko | Gnea, no, I was unaware of that channel |
| 14:06.28 | mezoko | thanks |
| 14:06.34 | draft | Gnea: yes, there already these two line about ls: eval "`dircolors -r`" ///// alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
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| 14:06.53 | Gnea | draft: ok, there should be some comments above them that tell you what they do |
| 14:07.02 | cahoot | dj-death: I'd try a search on LKML - seems suspicious for a regression in kernel |
| 14:07.20 | BarryAllen | Gnea, :) tks, i migrating a qmail solution rpm based (QMAILTOASTER) to debian.... im reading to do that the maintaner manual from debian.org but.... im stall using dh_make to start.... it dont found a Makefile on the toplevel directory (but it is there) and.... dont unpack my src... |
| 14:07.30 | mynullvoid | charzero: solved? |
| 14:07.42 | charzero | mynullvoid: I'm reading the link you sent. |
| 14:07.52 | draft | Gnea: is dircolors command i must use ? |
| 14:07.54 | BarryAllen | Gnea, im beginning with a simple package ... a modified version of zlib.... |
| 14:07.55 | mynullvoid | you need to create that file |
| 14:07.58 | Gnea | BarryAllen: a qmail application? that's gonna be a tough one... |
| 14:08.00 | Gnea | !qmail |
| 14:08.00 | dpkg | qmail is, like, a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html |
| 14:08.28 | insidius | Gnea, Is there a reason why i can ftp sucsessfully by using its local IP but when i try to connect to the domain and ftp it fails authentication? |
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| 14:08.44 | Gnea | draft: as long as the eval is set and ls is aliased you should be set - does ~/.bash_profile call ~/.bashrc? |
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| 14:08.53 | cahoot | dj-death: of course it can't be ruled out that the debian kernel config is at fault |
| 14:09.05 | Gnea | insidius: probably |
| 14:09.29 | insidius | Hmm this is going to call for me coffee i think |
| 14:09.39 | Gnea | :) |
| 14:09.40 | dj-death | cahoot: piix driver is loaded |
| 14:09.50 | draft | Gnea: but color are set, i just want to _change_ the color of ls |
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| 14:10.09 | Gnea | draft: hrmmm |
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| 14:10.19 | BarryAllen | Gnea, ok... lets say, i want to pack another thing :) |
| 14:10.24 | draft | ? |
| 14:10.53 | cahoot | dj-death: grep -i dma /proc/ide/ide0/hda/settings |
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| 14:11.08 | BarryAllen | im in doubt to use dh_make..... to pack a patched version of zlib.... |
| 14:11.23 | dj-death | cahoot: using_dma 0 0 1 rw |
| 14:11.33 | BarryAllen | so.... dh_make dont found a Makefile on the top-level directory.... |
| 14:11.36 | charzero | mynullvoid: where is /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant supposed to come from? its not in the wpasupplicant package. |
| 14:11.51 | BarryAllen | and does not unpack it... just create a debian subdirectory..... |
| 14:11.53 | cahoot | dj-death: true it doesn't use dma |
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| 14:12.14 | charzero | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.15 | ArchitectSinan | have a nice weekend all :D |
| 14:12.15 | charzero | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.18 | charzero | gah. |
| 14:12.19 | ArchitectSinan | bye |
| 14:12.21 | BarryAllen | ArchitectSinan, tks |
| 14:12.30 | draft | Gnea: i want to change the color used by ls cause, i dont see very well dark-blue on black..... |
| 14:12.52 | BarryAllen | !dh_make |
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| 14:13.23 | Gnea | draft: dircolors --help <-- that will lead you into it |
| 14:13.25 | Coweater | charzero: seems there's an example daemon file in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/ |
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| 14:14.01 | charzero | Coweater: But i should be configuring in /etc/network/interfaces, right? (etch) |
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| 14:15.17 | Coweater | i'm not sure, i've never used it, it also installs /etc/network/if-*.d/wpasupplicant that might be relevant, check the readme |
| 14:15.43 | poli | one simple question: How do I make a cramfs system from the scratch? |
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| 14:16.34 | mike12123 | sorry lol i wasent sure if i could speak in here without first regestring |
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| 14:17.43 | poli | rmkcramfs... thanks all |
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| 14:18.21 | charzero | How do I configure what options a module gets loaded with? |
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| 14:18.59 | poli | charzero: /etc/modules.conf |
| 14:18.59 | mike12123 | by default when you use tar it backs it up into one archive. the -M swith prompts you to enter in another media when you are doing it for something like a floppy disk but if you just want to back up to the hard drive can you tell it how big you want each arhive file to be |
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| 14:20.11 | poli | mike12123: see the -N option |
| 14:20.28 | poli | mike12123: I mean... the -L option. :) |
| 14:20.53 | mike12123 | thanks poli |
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| 14:21.38 | charzero | poli: 2.6 kernel. should i be modifying /etc/modprobe.d? |
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| 14:22.27 | marcom | m |
| 14:22.33 | poli | charzero: I am not sure. I guess /etc/modules.conf should do it. |
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| 14:22.50 | Dewi | Yesterday I installed a new ADSL modem. I am running it in "Half-bridged mode" just like my old one. The modem connects via PPP, and issues me with my Internet/Global (not private) IP Address. Ever since about 10 minutes after I unplugged the old modem and added the new one, I am having intermittant network problems and the kernel keeps saying hundreds of "kernel: Neighbour table overflow." |
| 14:23.03 | Dewi | I have read that this might be my ARP table running out of space... for whatever reason |
| 14:23.10 | Dewi | any ideas, anyone? |
| 14:23.18 | charzero | poli: /etc/modprobe.conf says not to edit it and to see the update-modules man page, which says that update-modules is obsolete. |
| 14:23.36 | poli | Dewi: arp | wc --lines |
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| 14:23.58 | Gnea | Dewi: are you using pppoe or dhcp to obtain the ip? |
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| 14:24.19 | Dewi | Gnea: the modem does the PPP, it assigns me a real-world IP address... 203.* |
| 14:24.27 | Dewi | Gnea: (via dhcp) |
| 14:24.34 | poli | charzero: Ok, go for /etc/modprobe.d |
| 14:24.45 | Gnea | Dewi: forget the modem, what does your linux system use? pump? |
| 14:24.55 | Dewi | Gnea: dhclient? |
| 14:24.59 | charzero | poli: it seems to say i should be editing something in /etc/modprobe.d, but it doesn't say what the format should be or what the file should be. |
| 14:25.00 | Gnea | ok, same thing |
| 14:25.20 | poli | charzero: Oh... but I guess /etc/modules.conf (man modules.conf) isnt obsolete. |
| 14:25.22 | Dewi | poli: that seems to block forever |
| 14:25.25 | charzero | poli: nm, found it in man modprobe.conf |
| 14:25.27 | Dewi | poli: is that a real command? |
| 14:25.27 | Gnea | Dewi: can you reconfigure it to use pppoe? |
| 14:25.45 | poli | Dewi: arp |
| 14:26.01 | Gnea | Dewi: i had one of those once, i found better performance using the dsl modem in PPPoE mode rather than bridged |
| 14:26.04 | Dewi | Gnea: my system? I suppose I could if I need to but it seems like needless complexity. |
| 14:26.09 | poli | Dewi: arp | wc --lines will tell you how many lines there are in your ARP table... Mine has 2. :) |
| 14:26.21 | charzero | poli: Is there a way to see what options a particular module was loaded with? |
| 14:26.26 | Dewi | Gnea: running PPPoE on your computer is "bridged" |
| 14:26.47 | Dewi | Gnea: I mean the modem is running "bridged" when you run PPPoE through it instead of on it |
| 14:27.08 | Dewi | poli: only if "arp" is a command which writes something to stdout |
| 14:27.14 | poli | Dewi: You are getting way too many "IS AT" packets... seems like a modem configuration to me. |
| 14:27.17 | Gnea | Dewi: i am quite aware of how it all works, i'm saying that i once had the same problems, but once i set the system up to do pppoe and reconfigured the modem to pppoe mode, the problem went awy |
| 14:27.31 | Dewi | poli: oh it's resolving everything... I need a -n or something |
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| 14:27.40 | poli | Dewi: arp is a command which writes something to stdout, dont worry about that. |
| 14:27.41 | Dewi | poli: 1022 lines |
| 14:28.03 | poli | Dewi: Are you in a big LAN? |
| 14:28.15 | Dewi | poli: no... 3 machines |
| 14:28.29 | Dewi | poli: and on that interface... the internet |
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| 14:28.39 | poli | Dewi: your modem isnt filtering the "IS AT" network packets. |
| 14:29.14 | poli | Dewi: (The ARP traslation packets from OTHER LANs... this information is completely useless for you and should be filetered) |
| 14:29.21 | Dewi | poli: I'm... kind of surprised they can route to me at all |
| 14:29.36 | poli | Dewi: they should filter that, yes... |
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| 14:29.50 | Dewi | poli: who should? ISP or... the PPPoE client? |
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| 14:30.12 | poli | Dewi: ISP... they are making you consume bandwidth with this shit. |
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| 14:31.00 | Dewi | poli: while this is occurring I am finding that "hosts I haven't accessed recently" can take 10-120 seconds to start responding |
| 14:31.10 | poli | charzero: if you didnt load the module yourself (or some other app did), all options should be listed in /etc/modules.conf |
| 14:31.13 | Dewi | poli: then they will run okay |
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| 14:31.22 | Dewi | poli: but then I visit a new web site and bam, have to wait again |
| 14:31.28 | magyar | when i am sending messages on mta server from horde, messages are being filtered through amavis, how can i disable this? |
| 14:31.31 | Dewi | poli: meanwhile the arp table overflows |
| 14:31.33 | poli | Dewi: might be the table refresh time... for some reason. |
| 14:31.51 | charzero | poli: but is there some command or something in /proc that tells me for all loaded modules what the options are? |
| 14:32.00 | poli | Dewi: but you shouldnt be getting this information from a ISP, well, at least with a DSL connection. |
| 14:32.02 | Dewi | poli: I guess what surprises me is... why would my computer need to hit the ARP table to see a LAN site? |
| 14:32.07 | Dewi | oops |
| 14:32.10 | Dewi | I mean an internet site |
| 14:32.27 | poli | charzero: I really dont know. /proc/modules doesnt seem to give the options. |
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| 14:32.59 | Dewi | poli: what I mean is.... I was saying "ping www.google.com" before.... and it would fail with "connect: no buffer space" or something similar. Now why would pinging google require an ARP hit seeing as it's not on my LAN? |
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| 14:33.02 | poli | Dewi: It doesnt. This infortion is only useful in the LAN, not when you need to route the packets. |
| 14:33.30 | poli | Dewi: It doesnt. But you need the ARP of your router... |
| 14:33.32 | Dewi | poli: unless of course the MAC for my default gateway is dropping out of the ARP table because it's so spammed..... |
| 14:33.43 | poli | Dewi: That would be my best guess. |
| 14:33.54 | poli | Dewi: you can check it dumping arp -n |
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| 14:35.06 | dillie | wtf did my initscripts go? |
| 14:35.28 | Dewi | poli: oh. suddenly I have a brainwave. I have seen people talking about ARP on the whirlpool DSL forums for my ISP.... hmmmmm :P |
| 14:35.39 | dillie | please say a dist-upgrade moved them somewhere, because i don't see my /etc/rc[0-6].d |
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| 14:37.11 | charzero | if i have "wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" in my /etc/network/interfaces, is /etc/default/wpasupplicant getting processed? |
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| 14:37.44 | Dewi | poli: is ARP in IP packets? |
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| 14:39.27 | dillie | oh, file-rc |
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| 14:42.25 | charzero | Should wpa_cli show "CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys" every 2 seconds? |
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| 14:45.13 | magyar | anyone using horde with amavis? |
| 14:45.40 | mrgenixus | has anyone here gotten Xara to compile? |
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| 14:47.50 | Dewi | hmmm a lot of this ARP traffic seems to be from me |
| 14:48.08 | Dewi | I wonder if my routing table is nuts |
| 14:49.51 | jj5 | when I click on links in thunderbird or on 'link' launcer files in the Gnome panel the URLs don't open in a browser. I.e. 'nothing happens'. Using gconf-editor and looking in desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http I see it configured to use gnome-www-browser, and this command opens epiphany if I run it manually from bash. Any suggestions about how I might be able to re-enbale links... |
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| 14:55.34 | SeMb0y | hello i have configured my xserver what to do when it says -> Xserver_xorg postint Warning owerwriting possibly-customised configuraton file : backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20060527144622 |
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| 15:01.18 | outlaw84 | any idea what I should do about this? http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/~mihaly/cvsd |
| 15:01.33 | Col_Kernel | Can someone tell me why file from unstable misdetects this sh script as awk script text? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2666 The rule for /bin/sh is before the awk rule in the magic file ... |
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| 15:02.06 | mike12123 | is there an easy to disable acpi and enable apm in debian |
| 15:02.14 | jhenn | hi. is it possible to listen to mp3's with free software? |
| 15:02.44 | cahoot | jhenn: yes - encoding is a slight other matter |
| 15:03.04 | jhenn | cahoot: and why would i want to encode in that wicked format?! |
| 15:03.27 | cahoot | jhenn: was just an observation - no recommendation |
| 15:03.29 | jhenn | cahoot: i choose to use free codecs just fyi. |
| 15:03.57 | jhenn | cahoot: i once heard of mp3123 or something is that still around? |
| 15:04.23 | cahoot | jhenn: whay not try the FREE app apt-cache search |
| 15:04.41 | jhenn | cahoot: because im waiting on my deselect desktop install :) |
| 15:04.49 | jhenn | cahoot: i guess i could use web system |
| 15:04.57 | cahoot | jhenn: mpg321 |
| 15:05.03 | jhenn | cahoot: im just excited because i never used sarge |
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| 15:05.23 | cahoot | jhenn: one of a large selection |
| 15:05.31 | jhenn | cahoot: k thanks |
| 15:05.53 | DJ-Marcuzz | good peeps, could someone take a look at this, and tell me if the vnc server closes when i disconnect the client? http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xvnc/ |
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| 15:06.24 | Dewi | my computer is producing ARP requests to the upstream router for every single internet host it ever sends to. |
| 15:06.28 | Dewi | Is this normal behaviour? |
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| 15:07.27 | jhenn | is it possible to buy a computer with debian pre-installed? |
| 15:07.42 | jhenn | like if you were looking for a new machine? |
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| 15:08.05 | redblades | what's wrong with installing it yourself? |
| 15:08.06 | azeem | jhenn: not easily, if at all |
| 15:08.15 | redblades | I've done it many times |
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| 15:08.17 | Maulkin | jhenn: http://www.debian.org/distrib/pre-installed |
| 15:08.21 | jhenn | redblades: nothing is wrong |
| 15:08.23 | redblades | (installing, that is) |
| 15:08.23 | jhenn | Maulkin: thanks |
| 15:08.25 | perican | hi |
| 15:08.26 | redblades | so??? |
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| 15:09.57 | Dewi | my computer is producing ARP requests to the upstream router for every single internet host it ever sends to. My ARP table is overflowing. What's gone wrong? |
| 15:10.49 | mike12123 | is there a way to disable apci |
| 15:11.05 | cahoot | mike12123: acpi or apic? |
| 15:11.49 | mike12123 | let me check its to do with the power mangmet |
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| 15:12.22 | cahoot | mike12123: acpi - add acpi=off to the kernel line |
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| 15:13.22 | Johnny_5 | i can't seem to get grip to work...i've downloaded and compiled lame, but still no luck |
| 15:13.55 | mike12123 | i have done that when i was looking at my dmesg line at the top it says my bios is to old for acpi and disableing it and that i can force it on, and then a little bit later it says its enableing it |
| 15:15.09 | Dewi | mike12123: is it causing any problems? |
| 15:15.13 | Johnny_5 | i tried all i know to do |
| 15:15.37 | cahoot | mike12123: do you have /proc/acpi then? |
| 15:15.54 | mike12123 | Dewi, yes as i cant do a proper power down as i just get loads of 0xnumbers when it tries to poweroff |
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| 15:16.56 | BladeRunner05 | Hi all I'm looking for a software to monitor my shells and X activities, like key pressing, browsed pages.... |
| 15:16.58 | mike12123 | cahoot, no i dont have /proc/acpi |
| 15:17.11 | blondie | BladeRunner05: why? |
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| 15:17.21 | cahoot | mike12123: then I guess it's not enabled after all |
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| 15:17.42 | BladeRunner05 | blondie: Cause I think my employee do not allowed things |
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| 15:18.04 | blondie | oh very naughty |
| 15:19.10 | mike12123 | hmmm |
| 15:19.17 | mike12123 | apm is in there which i want |
| 15:19.18 | Nicky | hi, hi need help, my debian 3.1 sarge "sees" all my hardware but let me use none |
| 15:19.26 | mike12123 | but it stil wont power down properly |
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| 15:20.48 | Dewi | Nicky: goodness me. |
| 15:20.49 | Nicky | hello anyone listen me ? |
| 15:20.55 | Ronin | patience Nicky |
| 15:21.00 | Dewi | Nicky: does it let you use the keyboard? |
| 15:21.01 | Nicky | ok |
| 15:21.07 | Ronin | Nicky: what do you mean it doesnt ler you use it |
| 15:21.08 | Nicky | yes ... |
| 15:21.09 | blondie | it doesn't let you use any hardware? does that mean it doesn't do anything at all? |
| 15:21.10 | Dewi | Nicky: problem solved! |
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| 15:21.18 | Dewi | Nicky: glad to be of help |
| 15:21.25 | Nicky | lol |
| 15:21.39 | Nicky | i want to use my modem, my scanner, my webcam, my printer |
| 15:21.42 | Nicky | this is all ... |
| 15:22.01 | Nicky | and preferably my soundcard |
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| 15:22.17 | dvs | Nicky: You don't ask for much. ;-) |
| 15:22.25 | Dewi | Nicky: one thing at a time. |
| 15:22.29 | cahoot | Nicky: add you user to audio, plugdev, camera groups |
| 15:22.35 | Nicky | right, just a normal desktop pc ;) |
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| 15:23.03 | Nicky | cahoot> what ? |
| 15:23.19 | cahoot | Nicky: sorry - disregard me |
| 15:23.37 | dvs | cahoot: what's wrong with that? That's the right thing to do. |
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| 15:23.59 | Nicky | pls i dont't want to lie on windows forever |
| 15:24.00 | cahoot | dvs: I just felt a certain lack of basics |
| 15:24.09 | Dewi | Nicky: even in windows, most desktop PCs don't magically figure out your scanner, modem, or printer. |
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| 15:24.36 | Dewi | Nicky: or webcams for that matter. |
| 15:25.05 | Nicky | pls disregard philosophy 'n thery just tell me what to do at least to make my aehtra starmodem adi chipset to work |
| 15:25.43 | mike12123 | just to check where would i need to place that acpi=off on the kernel line |
| 15:25.44 | arabian | hey all |
| 15:25.44 | dvs | Nicky: The modem is the least likely thing to work. |
| 15:25.59 | Ronin | Nicky: if your modem isnt working what are you on now? |
| 15:26.07 | Nicky | windows |
| 15:26.27 | limpio_ | IRCNICK |
| 15:26.42 | limpio_ | limpio |
| 15:26.53 | cahoot | mike12123: if grub - on the line starting with 'kernel' |
| 15:26.55 | Ronin | Nicky: winmodem by any chance? |
| 15:27.05 | Dewi | Nicky: the question you need to ask is, "does that chipset require massive amounts of signal copyrighted, closed-source signal processing software in order to do anything useful?" |
| 15:27.23 | Nicky | i got an adsl usb modem |
| 15:27.27 | Dewi | Nicky: if the answer is "yes", you need to find out if you have one of the few people have managed to hack into workingness in linux |
| 15:27.32 | Nicky | i does not requir emassive processing |
| 15:27.40 | Dewi | Nicky: does it have an ethernet port? |
| 15:27.41 | mike12123 | cahoot, thankyou yeah thats what i have done put it on the end |
| 15:27.42 | Nicky | and it needs eagle-usb driver for linux to work |
| 15:27.43 | dvs | Nicky: does it have a network plug? |
| 15:28.20 | Nicky | but when i compile thy ealge-usb driver it says lacking kernel headers for 2.6.8-2 |
| 15:28.39 | Nicky | and dpkg'in kernel headers for 2.6.8-2 says |
| 15:28.43 | Nicky | lacking kernel headers for 2.6.8 |
| 15:29.11 | Dewi | dpkg doesn't require kernel headers to do anything |
| 15:29.27 | cahoot | Dewi: he wants to compile |
| 15:29.43 | Dewi | Nicky: does the modem have a network plug? |
| 15:30.22 | Nicky | it's connected to th edsl phone line using rj-11 cable over an ppp-over-atm net |
| 15:30.24 | Dewi | Can anyone think of a reason why my machine is generating ARP lookups to every host on the internet it tries to transmit to? |
| 15:30.38 | Nicky | and via usb only to te pc |
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| 15:30.56 | Dewi | Nicky: most ADSL modems can do ethernet as well as USB |
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| 15:31.02 | Nicky | my does not |
| 15:31.10 | astronut | anyone know if you can use bluetooth to take the pictures off a razr? |
| 15:31.13 | Nicky | it's pure usb |
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| 15:32.05 | blondie | astronut: I would think so |
| 15:32.12 | valdyn | Nicky: did you run 'apt-get kernel-headers-$(uname -r) ? |
| 15:32.32 | blondie | +install |
| 15:32.33 | ekkikrist | astronut: That is highly dependent on how the razr was set up by the carrier. |
| 15:32.39 | cahoot | 2.6.8-2 - obsoleted? |
| 15:32.44 | Nicky | i'm not connected thy apt-get could search only on cdrom |
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| 15:33.09 | Nicky | but cdrom is the cd1 of thy basic package of debian sarge so it contains kernel 2.4.27 |
| 15:33.14 | valdyn | Nicky: you might just not have given the correct name |
| 15:33.15 | astronut | ekkikrist: cingular |
| 15:33.18 | Nicky | and the image-only of the 2.6.8 |
| 15:33.23 | valdyn | Nicky: hence my question |
| 15:33.23 | [EaK]Konky | ky |
| 15:33.48 | DJ-Marcuzz | how can i make a proram start at boot, but when the program closes it directly gets started again? |
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| 15:33.59 | ekkikrist | astronut: No idea sorry. Try another forum. |
| 15:34.08 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: what kind of program? |
| 15:34.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | Xvnc :1 -query localhost -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 |
| 15:34.36 | goedson | When I run ccda2wav, I get this error message: cdda2wav: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl |
| 15:34.52 | DJ-Marcuzz | that works fine, but when i exit the window manager the server renders useless |
| 15:34.58 | Nicky | i called module-assistant build eagle-usb and in the process it said lacks of headers i picked up the headers and i says lacks othe rheaders |
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| 15:35.04 | goedson | Running with it goes fine. |
| 15:35.18 | valdyn | Nicky: did you run 'apt-get kernel-headers-$(uname -r)' ? |
| 15:35.23 | Nicky | no |
| 15:35.25 | goedson | Running with root it goes fine. |
| 15:35.33 | valdyn | Nicky: so run it |
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| 15:35.52 | Nicky | can't, i need to reboot lose connection try and get back to window to test |
| 15:35.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | so valdyn, is there an way? |
| 15:36.09 | Dewi | Can anyone think of a reason why my machine is generating ARP lookups to every host on the internet it tries to transmit to? |
| 15:36.12 | goedson | Anyone knows what permissions I should set for my user to be able to extract audio from CDs? |
| 15:36.41 | Ronin | Nicky: so then boot to linux |
| 15:36.43 | Techno_2 | I have installed, mkinitrd, but it is not a recognised command when I type it into a shell. What can I do to sovle this? |
| 15:36.50 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: while 1;do Xvnc :1 -query localhost -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24;done |
| 15:36.56 | Nicky | ok,... |
| 15:37.24 | ekkikrist | goedson: adduser your-user cdrom |
| 15:37.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, how would that be placed in a bootup script then? |
| 15:37.30 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: that is assuming Xvnc doesnt daemonize itself, if it does, then that is a DOS |
| 15:38.07 | goedson | ekkikrist: It is already in the cdrom group. |
| 15:38.08 | poli | Dewi: no, ARP arent IP packets... they are a protocol that lays in the same layer as IP on top of Ethernet II |
| 15:38.17 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, it doesn't ;) |
| 15:38.27 | valdyn | !rc.local |
| 15:38.28 | dpkg | i heard rc.local is the boot script for BSD/slackware/redhat systems but is considered to be a hack for lazy people. Use the sysvinit method via update-rc.d or read /etc/init.d/README or "man update-rc.d", "apt-get install rcconf", or try "sysvconfig", or /etc/rc.boot/ directory, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file and /etc/init.d/skeleton template. If you don't like SysV, consider file-rc. |
| 15:38.31 | ekkikrist | goedson: Yes but is the user in the cdrom group |
| 15:38.32 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: ^^^ |
| 15:38.42 | Dewi | poli: so since I have a default gateway, why would my machine be generating ARP lookups to internet hosts? |
| 15:38.45 | goedson | ekkikrist: And /dev/hdb (which is my cdrom device) is owned by cdrom group |
| 15:39.02 | goedson | ekkikrist: Yes. My user is in the cdrom group. |
| 15:39.09 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: i like putting something into /etc/rc.boot/ |
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| 15:39.32 | poli | Dewi: It probably isnt. Chances are it is just registering all the ARP replies that get by. |
| 15:39.39 | Dewi | poli: it is. I can see in tcpdump. |
| 15:39.41 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: if you want a full featured debian service you need to create a script in /etc/init.d/ and the appropriate symlinks in /etc/rcX.d/ |
| 15:39.45 | Dewi | poli: I'll give you a paste |
| 15:39.58 | ekkikrist | goedson: The device permission should be 660 root:cdrom |
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| 15:40.08 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, ok but i mean, should i put that command in a script first or direcly into the boot script, becaus dropping while 1;do Xvnc :1 -query localhost -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24;done in an terminal it fails ;) |
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| 15:40.30 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: what fails? |
| 15:40.32 | goedson | ekkikrist: it is, already. |
| 15:40.39 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: that ought to work in a terminal |
| 15:40.46 | ekkikrist | well then you have some kind o fapplication error |
| 15:40.48 | Dewi | poli: http://david.pastebin.com/741266 |
| 15:40.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn: -bash: 1: command not found |
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| 15:40.58 | goedson | ekkikrist: if I use cdda2wav -interface cooked_ioctl it works. |
| 15:41.21 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: while true instead, sorry |
| 15:41.31 | ekkikrist | goedson: So what's the problem |
| 15:41.35 | goedson | ekkikrist: but since the cdda2wav recommends against this, I'm not willing to do it. |
| 15:41.42 | ekkikrist | recommends against this? |
| 15:41.44 | ekkikrist | whatever |
| 15:41.51 | ekkikrist | just use cdparanoia like normal people do |
| 15:41.55 | DJ-Marcuzz | true 1;do Xvnc :1 -query localhost -once -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24;done |
| 15:41.55 | DJ-Marcuzz | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do' |
| 15:41.55 | poli | Dewi: your gateway is 107 or your machine is .107? |
| 15:42.06 | cahoot | DJ-Marcuzz: you just quit the wm not X itself? |
| 15:42.06 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn ^^^ |
| 15:42.07 | Dewi | poli: um... both. |
| 15:42.12 | Dewi | poli: it's a half-bridged ADSL modem |
| 15:42.44 | Dewi | poli: the ADSL modem is running a PPPOE client with that client address. And my eth0 has that address too. |
| 15:42.52 | Dewi | poli: provided to it, from the modem, via DHCP. |
| 15:42.53 | DJ-Marcuzz | cahoot, when i do exit on fluxbox it just gives me an grey screen and i cant click anything |
| 15:42.53 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: your typo |
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| 15:43.28 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: while true;do Xvnc :1 -query localhost -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24;done |
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| 15:43.34 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: cut and paste ^^^ |
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| 15:43.39 | Dewi | poli: which is in many ways a strange setup. But I can't see any reason why it should cause my computer to spew ARP requests. |
| 15:43.39 | goedson | ekkikrits: In fact, I'm looking into this because of a bug in gnomebaker (bug #363158) |
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| 15:44.28 | goedson | ekkikrist: If the best action would be using cdparanoia instead of cdda2wav, then I'm probably going to modify it to do so. |
| 15:44.29 | ekkikrist | goedson: I don't know what their reasoning is but cdda2wav sounds like it is doing things the wrong way. It should be using block (cooked) devices by default |
| 15:44.33 | poli | Dewi: I agree. I am running out of ideas. |
| 15:44.42 | gothicrulezz | any one uses arabian .6? |
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| 15:45.12 | Dewi | poli: I think it must be time to learn to rig up PPPOE in linux so I can make my modem a full bridge and forget about this particular setup. |
| 15:45.21 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, works like a charm, thx, now im gonna build an bot script ;) |
| 15:45.27 | Dewi | poli: presumably it's not *too* difficult... |
| 15:45.36 | lamp_ | when i try to upgrade openoffice to version 2.0 with adding backports to my sources.list i get a depencie error, he can't install j2re1.4. |
| 15:45.37 | poli | Dewi: Isnt half-bridge mandatory for your ISP? |
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| 15:46.02 | goedson | ekkikrist: so that talk about audio extraction quality of the OS is not a problem, in our case? |
| 15:46.02 | Dewi | poli: um... what I mean is, I can run the PPPoE in linux instead of on the modem |
| 15:46.09 | Dewi | poli: and yes, most ISPs allow that, don't they? |
| 15:46.16 | magyar | anyone using horde? |
| 15:46.23 | Ronin | !anyone |
| 15:46.23 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 15:46.27 | SpeedEvil | Is there any way to offline a block device, so requests to it just hang the process? Specifically, I want to be able to unplug (with notice) a USB mass-storage device, plug it in later, and then all the stuff will carry on working. |
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| 15:46.37 | poli | Dewi: apt-get install pppoe pppoeconf ? |
| 15:46.43 | valdyn | lamp_: that is correct, you cannt apt-get install that directly as its not in sarge or backports |
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| 15:46.48 | ekkikrist | goedson: I think you'll find that cdparanoia is a very high quality program ;) |
| 15:46.54 | valdyn | lamp_: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 15:46.57 | Nicky | running thy command said : INVALID OPERATION KERNEL-HEADERS-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 15:46.58 | Dewi | poli: I can only hope. It's nearly 2am here and I just want this bastard solved. :) |
| 15:47.09 | Dewi | poli: thanks for all your knowledgable help. |
| 15:47.29 | magyar | when i am sending messages on mta server from horde, messages are being filtered through amavis, how can i disable this? |
| 15:47.36 | poli | Dewi: from what I understand half-bridge saves one IP address... but I have never seen such configuration around here. |
| 15:47.38 | ekkikrist | goedson: I dunno about cdda2wav it sounds like bs to me |
| 15:47.42 | valdyn | Nicky: cut and paste 'apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)' |
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| 15:47.43 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, just one litte thing: how do i kill it now? |
| 15:47.52 | cahoot | Nicky: missed the 'install' part? |
| 15:47.54 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: excellent question |
| 15:47.57 | Nicky | I EXACLY CUTTED AND PASTEDsaid : INVALID OPERATION KERNEL-HEADERS-2.6.8-2-686 |
| 15:48.08 | lamp_ | valdyn, thx i will try |
| 15:48.23 | Ronin | Nicky: no need to yell |
| 15:48.25 | Nicky | missed the 'install' parT, YES |
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| 15:48.38 | Nicky | sorry ronin |
| 15:48.41 | Ronin | :) |
| 15:48.47 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, i can tell you that CTRL-C wont work |
| 15:48.58 | SpeedEvil | Dewi: from what I understand of half bridge. Your computer becomes the 'router'. Instead of getting ethernet packets which pretend to come from remote sources, you get a ppp (or other streamed) connection that you can interpret directly. |
| 15:49.01 | cahoot | DJ-Marcuzz: pkill? |
| 15:49.04 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: oh that should work |
| 15:49.12 | SpeedEvil | Thus it's a half-bridge. |
| 15:49.22 | SpeedEvil | A full bridge would be the normal mode |
| 15:49.23 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: it is probably better if you put starting Xvnc into your /etc/inittab |
| 15:49.39 | lamp_ | valdyn, do i need to install j2re1.4 then, or can i also install jre1.5 |
| 15:49.41 | Nicky | valdyn> mmm, i'll retry with the new |
| 15:49.43 | SpeedEvil | when the router spits out ethernet packets pretending to come from 'local' computers |
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| 15:51.21 | goedson | ekkikrist: OK. So I'll probably try cdparanoia as the audio extraction backend for gnomebaker. |
| 15:51.26 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, could you tell me how? |
| 15:51.44 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: i dont know a good way, repeatedly hitting Ctrl-C should work |
| 15:51.59 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok that works |
| 15:52.08 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: its as hackish for /etc/inittab anyway |
| 15:52.15 | Dewi | SpeedEvil: not quite |
| 15:52.18 | DJ-Marcuzz | but how can i get the vnc servers in /etc/inittab |
| 15:52.18 | Dewi | SpeedEvil: my computer is the router |
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| 15:52.26 | Dewi | SpeedEvil: but it gets standard ethernet packets from upstream |
| 15:52.37 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: inittab's job is to keep a process running and respawn it when it does, with few added features |
| 15:52.42 | Dewi | SpeedEvil: and the whole PPP thing is done transparently upstream |
| 15:52.47 | goedson | ekkikrist: Thank you for your help. |
| 15:52.50 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: s/does/dies/ |
| 15:52.56 | SpeedEvil | Dewi: but that's not half-bridge mode AIUI |
| 15:52.56 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: plenty examples there |
| 15:53.10 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok ill check it out |
| 15:53.14 | Dewi | SpeedEvil: it is in local slang |
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| 15:53.25 | SpeedEvil | Sorry, gyg |
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| 15:53.41 | Dewi | SpeedEvil: what you are describing is what I would call fully bridged |
| 15:54.12 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: hold on |
| 15:54.30 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: i said 'as hackish' inittab is great just for services you do not need to stop |
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| 15:54.59 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: man start-stop-daemon, that's the best way as far as i can tell |
| 15:55.00 | cahoot | DJ-Marcuzz: maybe this? http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/morelnxsvrhks/chapter/hack13.pdf |
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| 15:55.13 | Gnurdux | are any debian developers here who can answer a question about a certain debian package? |
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| 15:55.45 | valdyn | !justask |
| 15:55.45 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 15:56.04 | charzero | Do i have to do something to get my sound card to be found other than compile the driver into the kernel? |
| 15:56.12 | goedson | Gnurdux: it certainly depend on which package you are talking about. |
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| 15:56.46 | jhenn | my dpkg is saying this package needs 'debhelper' but i search for that word and nothing comes up. |
| 15:56.49 | charzero | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
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| 15:57.03 | bootc | jhann: apt-get install debhelper ? |
| 15:57.12 | bootc | jhenn: sorry |
| 15:57.13 | Gnurdux | well a game, bzflag recently came out with a bugfix only release, 2.0.8.. 2.0.8 is now in unstable, but in response to the bugs in 2.0.6, bzflag was simply removed from testing. is there any reason 2.0.8 shouldn't be in testing at this point? |
| 15:57.16 | jhenn | bootc: thats what I though |
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| 15:57.46 | cahoot | charzero: no OSS driver interfering? |
| 15:57.56 | stew | Gnurdux: /msg dpkg why is bzflag not in testing |
| 15:58.05 | valdyn | !why is bzflag not in testing |
| 15:58.05 | dpkg | bzflag is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=bzflag |
| 15:58.14 | jhenn | bootc: it can't find the package |
| 15:58.19 | charzero | cahoot: I did not compile OSS. |
| 15:58.22 | Gnurdux | ahh thanks |
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| 15:58.37 | Gnurdux | BUT there WAS an old version in testing, 2.0.6 which was removed |
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| 15:58.54 | cahoot | charzero: and the lsa 'module' is compiled statically in kernel? |
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| 15:59.02 | Gnurdux | because of bugs, which are FIXED in 2.0.8 |
| 15:59.10 | charzero | cahoot: yes. |
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| 15:59.29 | cahoot | charzero: does /proc/asound exist? |
| 15:59.33 | jhenn | can someone help me install my wireless drivers for the ralink chipset? |
| 15:59.36 | Gnurdux | bzflag is not yet built on hppa: 2.0.6.20060412-1 vs 2.0.8.20060515 (missing 2 binaries: bzflag, bzflag-server.... why not? |
| 15:59.47 | charzero | cahoot: yes. |
| 16:00.04 | cahoot | charzero: does /proc/asound/cards list your card? |
| 16:00.11 | charzero | cahoot: yes. |
| 16:00.28 | Nicky | it said : kernel-heades-2.6.8-2-686 is already the newest version - you might run 'apt-get-f install' to correct these: ---> unmet dependencies kernel-heades-2.6.8-2-686 depends kernel-heades-2.6.8-2 but it is not installable |
| 16:00.29 | valdyn | Gnurdux: why would it matter WHY bzflag doesnt build on hppa? Want to write a fix? |
| 16:00.31 | stew | Gnurdux: http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=bzflag&ver=2.0.8.20060515&arch=hppa&stamp=1147716810&file=log&as=raw |
| 16:00.56 | Gnurdux | ah it doesnt build |
| 16:00.58 | stew | Gnurdux: ^^^ it gets an error when trying to build on hppa, |
| 16:01.00 | bootc | jhenn: maybe it needs a specific version of debhelper? can you paste the whole message? |
| 16:01.13 | charzero | cahoot: /proc/cards says ICH6. /proc/ICH6 -> /proc/card0 |
| 16:01.24 | jhenn | bootc: i don't know how in screen |
| 16:01.29 | charzero | cahoot: do i need to create something in /dev? |
| 16:01.30 | bootc | jhenn: aren't the ralink drivers in the latest vanilla kernel (2.6.16)? |
| 16:01.30 | jhenn | bootc: im not in x |
| 16:01.47 | jhenn | bootc: im on debian stable its like 2.6.11 or something |
| 16:01.48 | cahoot | charzero: typo for /proc/asound/cards I tke it |
| 16:02.06 | jhenn | bootc: suppose i could do a dist-upgrade |
| 16:02.09 | Nicky | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.13 | valdyn | bootc: no |
| 16:02.15 | MyWay | Someone can help me installing the linux image 2.6.16 for k8? |
| 16:02.18 | jhenn | bootc: really didn't want to run unsupported shit |
| 16:02.19 | charzero | yeah /proc/asound/cards, /proc/asound/ICH6 -> card0 |
| 16:02.33 | bootc | jhenn: I'm on stable too, use udev from backports and latest vanilla kernels, but that's just me |
| 16:02.47 | cahoot | charzero: and /dev/snd is fully populated? |
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| 16:02.59 | jhenn | bootc: how do i get those kernels? |
| 16:03.00 | valdyn | bootc: they work fine, but they are being rewritten so there is no effort getting the old ones into the kernel |
| 16:03.01 | charzero | cahoot: no such file |
| 16:03.36 | cahoot | charzero: try run alsaconf - see if it works |
| 16:03.40 | bootc | valdyn: indeed not |
| 16:03.58 | charzero | cahoot: "No supported PnP or PCI card found" |
| 16:04.31 | cahoot | charzero: what kernel? using udev? |
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| 16:05.09 | charzero | cahoot: 2.6.15 (from apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15). |
| 16:05.17 | charzero | cahoot: how do i know if it uses udev? |
| 16:05.19 | Gnurdux | checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.5... no |
| 16:05.19 | Gnurdux | *** Could not run SDL test program, checking why... |
| 16:05.25 | Gnurdux | that might have to do with it stew |
| 16:05.27 | cahoot | charzero: pgrep udev |
| 16:05.30 | jhenn | bootc: i am losing you? |
| 16:05.43 | Gnurdux | ccache: failed to create /home2/buildd/.ccache (No such file or directory) |
| 16:05.43 | Gnurdux | aha |
| 16:05.44 | bootc | jhenn: sorry, missed the message |
| 16:05.45 | Nicky | hell-o? |
| 16:05.50 | Nicky | it said : kernel-heades-2.6.8-2-686 is already the newest version - you might run 'apt-get-f install' to correct these: ---> unmet dependencies kernel-heades-2.6.8-2-686 depends kernel-heades-2.6.8-2 but it is not installable |
| 16:05.54 | Gnurdux | stew, is it SUPPOSED to be build or buildd |
| 16:05.56 | charzero | cahoot: returns 1 |
| 16:06.04 | charzero | cahoot: ( $? is 1) |
| 16:06.06 | stew | Gnurdux: buildd |
| 16:06.08 | jhenn | bootc: how can i get that new kernel with the ralink drivers? |
| 16:06.09 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 16:06.10 | charzero | cahoot: doesn't say anything. |
| 16:06.25 | charzero | cahoot: is udev something i need in the kernel? |
| 16:06.29 | bootc | jhenn: it appears the newer kernels don't actually have the ralink driver |
| 16:06.34 | Gnurdux | well it sounds like that dir doesnt exist, there are multiple errors about it with no such file or dir |
| 16:06.37 | cahoot | charzero: no was just wondering |
| 16:06.40 | bootc | jhenn: let me have a look around |
| 16:06.42 | jhenn | bootc: yeah the module is in testing |
| 16:06.57 | valdyn | jhenn: debian has ralink driver packages |
| 16:07.02 | jhenn | bootc: i can install the module from testing/unstable but it gives errors |
| 16:07.05 | Gnurdux | all about .ccache |
| 16:07.06 | magyar | need help with spamassassin |
| 16:07.08 | jhenn | valdyn: really in stable? |
| 16:07.10 | charzero | cahoot: isn't udev obsolete? |
| 16:07.22 | bootc | jhenn: right, those are probably the best to use! |
| 16:07.31 | valdyn | jhenn: which ralink chipset do you have? |
| 16:07.31 | jhenn | valdyn: i know they have them in unstable/testing |
| 16:07.31 | cahoot | charzero: the /dev entries for alsa is obviously missing for some reason |
| 16:07.36 | bootc | jhenn: I'd probably try to rebuild them from source under stable |
| 16:07.36 | jhenn | valdyn: rt2500 |
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| 16:07.40 | magyar | any spamassassin or horde people here? |
| 16:07.51 | valdyn | jhenn: apt-cache show rt2500-source |
| 16:07.52 | charzero | cahoot: what is supposed to make them? |
| 16:07.58 | cahoot | charzero: I think you mean devfs |
| 16:08.00 | valdyn | jhenn: i dont actually know if its in stable, probably not |
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| 16:08.12 | bootc | jhenn: then the dependencies might get sorted for the stable series |
| 16:08.16 | charzero | cahoot: I have /dev/audio, audio1,audio2,audio3,audioctl |
| 16:08.23 | jhenn | valdyn: its not in stable |
| 16:08.25 | cahoot | charzero: those are not alsa |
| 16:08.39 | jhenn | valdyn: thats why i asked you |
| 16:08.45 | fourat | proftpd is very slow, i have these lines in log : May 27 00:11:49 tux proftpd[16964]: IPv6 getaddrinfo 'localhost.localdomain' error: Name or service not known |
| 16:08.53 | fourat | how to resolve it ? |
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| 16:09.06 | charzero | cahoot: ah. i assume i'm not supposed to have to make them myself? |
| 16:09.16 | valdyn | jhenn: alright, so backport it, shouldnt be a problem |
| 16:09.32 | valdyn | jhenn: except that you might have to ugprade to a later kernel, i dont know that |
| 16:09.42 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 16:09.42 | cahoot | charzero: sorry - I can't advice on how to create the alsa dev entries - makedev in some way |
| 16:09.42 | dpkg | from memory, simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports>, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/abp/ |
| 16:09.45 | jhenn | valdyn: i don't know how to do this stuff |
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| 16:10.18 | cahoot | charzero: as a side note - alsa is best used as modules |
| 16:10.57 | charzero | cahoot: its a laptop. might i need PCMCIA ioctl? |
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| 16:11.14 | valdyn | fourat: blacklist the ipv6 module and reboot and try if that fixes it |
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| 16:11.48 | bootc | jhenn: set up the backports repo (http://www.backports.org/) |
| 16:11.55 | bootc | jhenn: then upgrade debhelper |
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| 16:12.15 | bootc | jhenn: then the package might install nicely |
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| 16:12.28 | semboy | http://phpfi.com/120203 check this please |
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| 16:12.52 | kriel | hey, does anybody know off the top of their head the sources.list string to use ftp.us.debian.org? |
| 16:13.46 | charzero | kriel deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main |
| 16:14.02 | kriel | woo. thanks. |
| 16:14.25 | fourat | can i mount a remote filesystem accessible with ssh ? (scp) |
| 16:14.40 | valdyn | fourat: yes |
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| 16:14.54 | valdyn | !sshfs |
| 16:14.55 | dpkg | hmm... sshfs is sshfs-fuse, or not shfs |
| 16:15.03 | valdyn | !sshfs-fuse |
| 16:15.09 | valdyn | !shfs |
| 16:15.10 | dpkg | methinks shfs is http://shfs.sourceforge.net/ "Mount ANY dir from ANY host in the SECURE way"SHFS is a simple and easy to use Linux kernel (2.4+) module which allows you to mount remote filesystems using plain shell (ssh/rsh) connection. It supports some nice features like number of different caches for access speedup, target system optimisations, etc. |
| 16:15.20 | valdyn | !fuse |
| 16:15.20 | dpkg | i guess fuse is at http://fuse.sf.net/, is Filesystem in USEerspace, enables you to mount various exotic filesystems, like samba workgroups, tar files, ftp sites etc. Fuse is packaged in debian and already included in recent 2.6.x kernels. |
| 16:15.40 | valdyn | !info sshfs |
| 16:15.48 | dpkg | sshfs: (filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.6-1 (sid), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 120 kB |
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| 16:16.21 | riba | hello... |
| 16:16.29 | valdyn | fourat: mountable, but it doesnt support unix permissions completely, obviously |
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| 16:17.28 | kriel | okay, if i've got two sources in my sources.list, will it use the first by default, unless the second is a more recent version? |
| 16:18.19 | blondie | it'll try them in order I think |
| 16:18.22 | riba | does anyone know how to correct this: any apt-get I issue, apt-get asks me to do "apt-get -f install", because of an unmet dependency: sun-java5-plugin: Depends: sun-java5-bin, but I've resigned installing this package... |
| 16:18.32 | charzero | cahoot: i recompiled with alsa as modules. /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start says "Setting up ALSA...Invalid card number." |
| 16:18.44 | kriel | blondie: kay. thanks. |
| 16:18.51 | charzero | cahoot: alsaconf found the card now though. |
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| 16:19.34 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, how would an respawn line with the vnc cmmand look like? |
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| 16:20.11 | jhenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.17 | charzero | cahoot: alsaconf finds the card and loads the driver, but then "amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device" |
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| 16:20.37 | icyfire0573 | is it possible to Record a window on the X Server? |
| 16:21.28 | bootc | jhenn: rt2500-source is a module source package |
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| 16:21.42 | bootc | jhenn: once you have that you actually need to build the module |
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| 16:21.46 | jhenn | bootc: yeah i know i ran the command to build it |
| 16:21.55 | bootc | jhenn: ah right, sorry |
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| 16:22.07 | bootc | jhenn: any kernel messages? where did the module get installed? |
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| 16:22.19 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: 2:23:respawn:Xvnc... |
| 16:22.39 | jhenn | bootc: i don't know |
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| 16:22.47 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: err: 1:23:respawn:Xvnc... |
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| 16:23.12 | jhenn | bootc: its not working i tried it again |
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| 16:23.57 | tag | I've got a 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2) |
| 16:24.10 | bootc | jhenn: not sure then really, sorry :-/ |
| 16:24.10 | tag | my resolution is stuck at 640x480 |
| 16:24.17 | tag | any ideas how to fix that? |
| 16:24.36 | bootc | jhenn: find /lib/modules | grep rt2500 |
| 16:24.45 | bootc | jhenn: that give anything? |
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| 16:25.13 | stew | !drxx tag |
| 16:25.14 | dpkg | tag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:25.22 | magyar | any spamassassin or horde people here? |
| 16:25.23 | jhenn | bootc: no |
| 16:25.29 | charzero | cahoot: I needed to install alsa-base. Shouldn't that be a dependancy of alsa-utils? |
| 16:25.31 | Plater | Hello. Im going crazy with config for Senao SL-2511CD PLUS PCMCIA WLAN Card. Using HostAP or WLAN-NG DRIVERS on debian distro named BACKTRACK. Anyone who can help me make config I will pay $50 through PAYPAL. (I am no linux expert) |
| 16:25.41 | tag | stew: I need to switch to xfree86 ? |
| 16:25.46 | adamant1988 | ok... I have an install of Debian on my laptop... but Xfree86 refuses to start for anything. I've reconfigured it and all, but when I try to start it using "Xstart or xinit" I'm met with "Command not found" |
| 16:25.51 | stew | tag: no |
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| 16:26.07 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: the first value is just an id, see man inittab |
| 16:26.08 | adamant1988 | I know the installation missed several packages while I was around... did it miss something important? |
| 16:26.11 | vasundhar | adamant1988: I guess you dont have a gdm |
| 16:26.12 | stew | adamant1988: install x-window-system-core |
| 16:26.18 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: your probably want to use an ID that means something to you |
| 16:26.31 | bootc | jhenn: maybe it didn't build properly then, any obvious errors come up? |
| 16:26.33 | tag | stew: It's not because of my configuration that the resolution is stuck...well it is, but it's something about the support for this card |
| 16:26.34 | vasundhar | So install that and then xfree-86 common |
| 16:26.43 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, its just a number! or how long may the ID be? |
| 16:26.47 | adamant1988 | I'll have to connect it to the net, but OK, so that's what I'm missing? The Xwindow system core? |
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| 16:26.52 | bootc | jhenn: I built my own patched kernels with make-kpkg so I'm out of my depth here |
| 16:26.53 | formorer | Plater: which chipset does it have? |
| 16:26.54 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: read the manpage |
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| 16:27.32 | MyWay | I have a problem with XMMS, my audio work, but the song start only if i move the progress bar, why? |
| 16:27.39 | stew | tag: how do you know that? |
| 16:27.42 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, last question, what runlevers should it start then? and the respawn should be enough? |
| 16:27.45 | MyWay | hi stew |
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| 16:27.58 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: 2 and 3 as far as i see |
| 16:28.06 | tag | stew: Because I've done this quite a few times? |
| 16:28.11 | varsendagger | hey i have a script that runs a program but it needs to be run as su is there a way to just let this program run as su without having to type a password everythime |
| 16:28.21 | Plater | formorer: i guess that's prism 2-2.5 |
| 16:28.23 | stew | tag: which driver are you using? |
| 16:28.35 | MyWay | I have a problem with XMMS, my audio work, but the song start only if i move the progress bar, why? |
| 16:28.35 | tag | stew: nvidia |
| 16:28.37 | vasundhar | varsendagger: check man sudoers |
| 16:28.48 | Plater | IEEE 802.11b SL-2511CD PLUS WLAN |
| 16:28.54 | stew | tag: have you tried the free drivers? |
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| 16:29.09 | tag | stew: Yes, I started out with the free drivers |
| 16:29.19 | tag | and I switched to the commercial ones, and both of them give me the same result |
| 16:29.21 | formorer | Plater: should work without big problems, what exactly is your problem? |
| 16:29.21 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, that would e: VNC1:23:respawn:Xvnc :1 -query localhost -once -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 |
| 16:29.37 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: yea |
| 16:29.38 | eleftherios | netstat shows a bunch of smtp connetions on my Etch server. I have not configured smtp auth and I have no other email users om my server... What's more /etc/init.d/exim4 stop gave me: Stopping MTA: No /usr/sbin/exim4 found running; none killed. Any pointers please? |
| 16:30.07 | stew | tag: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; choose nv for the driver. if you cannot get it above 800x600 you are likely entering the monitor settings incorrectly |
| 16:30.23 | tag | I cannot get above 640x480 |
| 16:30.48 | tag | and I had nv for the driver, last time, same result...why would switching back again fix anything? |
| 16:30.52 | blondie | tag: what happens if you try other resolutions? |
| 16:30.53 | MyWay | I have a problem with XMMS, my audio work, but the song start only if i move the progress bar, why? |
| 16:31.13 | blondie | did you click "play"? x.x |
| 16:31.20 | MyWay | yes |
| 16:31.22 | MyWay | obvious.. |
| 16:31.23 | stew | tag: either driver would get you above 640x480 if you enter your monitor settings correctly |
| 16:31.30 | Plater | formorer: big problem is, i activate hostAP, then green led on card lights, then iwconfig gives wifi0 with IEEE 802.11-DS and ESSID:"test" - then i do iwconfig wifi0 ESSID "MYID" - this already gives error, but changes ESSID strange enough. wireless manager still says: no wireless device. - then i do: ifconfig wifi0 up and bam, nothing anymore |
| 16:31.35 | stew | tag: put the log from using the free driver into a pastebin |
| 16:31.37 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, how do i restart such an service in inittab? |
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| 16:33.24 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: just kill Xvnc |
| 16:33.32 | Plater | formorer: there is a "wireless manager" app on BackTrack distro, but that always says no wireless device. no matter what i do |
| 16:33.40 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: 'killall vncserver' or somesuch |
| 16:33.53 | formorer | Plater: hmm |
| 16:34.05 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: init will restart it as soon as it dies |
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| 16:34.24 | formorer | Plater: thats strange, does it have an actual firmware? |
| 16:34.40 | tag | http://pastebin.com/741343 |
| 16:34.53 | formorer | Plater: and are you sure that the orinoco driver isn't loaded? |
| 16:35.01 | tag | stew: That's using the free driver |
| 16:35.30 | Plater | formorer: that should not be loaded, it got 3 options in there: hostAP, orinoco and wlan-ng |
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| 16:35.42 | formorer | in where? |
| 16:35.43 | Plater | if I switch to HostAP it clears automatically |
| 16:35.50 | formorer | what says lsmod? |
| 16:36.08 | Plater | let me startup system again |
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| 16:36.27 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: i dont remember if 'Xvnc' was a binary itself or just the startup script so the name to kill might aswell be 'kilall Xvnc' |
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| 16:36.58 | bit0 | hi! |
| 16:37.06 | Plater | formorer: this is kind of complex problem. could we talk private about this? no use have this all in channel i feel. if you have time and can help me out, many appreciated and if you need some paypal, im happy to send if you helped ;) |
| 16:37.09 | bit0 | libxine1 has problems (rebuild it, please) |
| 16:37.14 | Nicky | hi, i finally set it to work ! |
| 16:37.15 | tag | stew: any ideas? |
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| 16:37.17 | stew | tag: so yeah, it looks like it won't use the higher resolutions becuase of the monitor sync rates, you need to reconfigure xserver-xorg and put the correct sync rates for your monitor |
| 16:37.39 | DJ-Marcuzz | owke valdyn, thats done now, but there is no way to shut it down anymore :P |
| 16:37.54 | bit0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:37.54 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: yea, that is right |
| 16:38.02 | tag | how is that possible, my xorg.conf doesn't even specify any sync rates. |
| 16:38.06 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: ( except by switching runlevels ) |
| 16:38.16 | streuner | dpkg, BackTrack is <reply> a SLAX based linux distribution derived from merging two penetration testing distributions, Whax and Auditor. |
| 16:38.16 | dpkg | okay, streuner |
| 16:38.20 | Nicky | heheh but i still 've a problem can't use # & @ |
| 16:38.25 | Nicky | from my keyboard |
| 16:38.38 | Plater | streuner: exactly |
| 16:38.39 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: you will have to combine several tools to do this proper as a start- and stoppable- service |
| 16:38.39 | wubrgamer | hey, what are the advantages of ubuntu and debian ? |
| 16:38.44 | wubrgamer | which should i use ? |
| 16:38.51 | Nicky | i everytime need to cut & paste from elsewhere |
| 16:38.57 | stew | tag: then your monitor either doesn't support anything higher than 640x480, or the monitor sync rates are being incorrectly detected |
| 16:38.58 | Maulkin | wubrgamer: What are you trying to do? :) |
| 16:39.06 | stew | tag: can you put your xorg.conf into a pastebin? |
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| 16:39.15 | formorer | Plater: I don't like solving problems in private, cause nobody can help then too and nobody is able to learn something |
| 16:39.17 | Maulkin | wubrgamer: As a side note, we're more likley to say 'Debian' :) |
| 16:39.21 | wubrgamer | maulkin: umm, have a desktop alternative |
| 16:39.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | well valdyn, i don't know how to do that ;) |
| 16:39.27 | Plater | formorer: true |
| 16:39.32 | wubrgamer | maulkin: i know, i'm also asking the people on #ubuntu |
| 16:39.34 | Plater | im booting system now |
| 16:39.35 | Maulkin | wubrgamer: Do you have experience with Linux? |
| 16:39.45 | streuner | Plater: Can you tell us please what BackTrack has to do with debian at all? |
| 16:39.59 | tag | http://pastebin.com/741349 |
| 16:40.04 | Maulkin | wubrgamer: Do you want everything to be really up to date, or do you want it not to break? |
| 16:40.04 | Plater | debian based distro? |
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| 16:40.21 | Plater | knoppix is debian based, yes? |
| 16:40.44 | streuner | Plater: we don't support debian based distros here, sorry, look for a channel for your distro. |
| 16:40.51 | valdyn | DJ-Marcuzz: i have to look it up myself: create a script that restarts Xvnc when it dies ( we already did that ), embed that script into a start-stop-daemon command, ( see man start-stop-daemon ), and embed that command into an init.d script |
| 16:40.55 | wubrgamer | i just want something to WORK |
| 16:40.55 | formorer | what is backtrack? |
| 16:40.56 | Maulkin | Plater: That doesn't mean we know anything about knoppix. I'd suggest trying #knoppix. |
| 16:40.57 | wubrgamer | lol |
| 16:41.09 | streuner | dpkg, BackTrack |
| 16:41.09 | dpkg | a SLAX based linux distribution derived from merging two penetration testing distributions, Whax and Auditor. |
| 16:41.10 | wubrgamer | i have very little experience |
| 16:41.15 | outlaw84 | any idea what I should do about this? http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/~mihaly/cvsd |
| 16:41.19 | formorer | urgs |
| 16:41.19 | Plater | whax = knoppix |
| 16:41.19 | eleftherios | I get load averages of 33.08, 132.11, 87.87. Is that normal? |
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| 16:41.21 | Maulkin | wubrgamer: I'd suggest Ubuntu |
| 16:41.26 | wubrgamer | why so ? |
| 16:41.32 | Nicky | how do i tell kde speak my language instead of english ? |
| 16:41.37 | wubrgamer | sorry, i'm just wondering...... |
| 16:41.37 | pipeline | eleftherios: That's definitely not normal. |
| 16:41.44 | stew | tag: it looks like you are going to have to determine your acutal monitor sync rates and put them into the Monitor section |
| 16:41.45 | Kizzo | http://ls60.narod.ru/baff.exe =)) cool 8) |
| 16:41.47 | streuner | Maulkin: if you want support ubuntu just /j #ubuntu |
| 16:41.56 | DJ-Marcuzz | valdyn, lets try that later on, i now need to get the rest of the system working, like SANE and the printer sharing |
| 16:41.57 | Maulkin | streuner: Erm... I don't |
| 16:42.04 | Nicky | how do i tell kde speak my language instead of english ? |
| 16:42.06 | streuner | ok, so help debian |
| 16:42.11 | tag | stew: Max Sync Rate (V x H)120 Hz x 85 kHz |
| 16:42.18 | tag | that's what the specs for this monitor say |
| 16:42.20 | formorer | Nicky: install the language pack and then adjust in the control center |
| 16:42.21 | outlaw84 | Nicky: you have to start by installing the language pack for you language |
| 16:42.39 | tag | but 1600x1200 is at 50hz Max Resolution1600 x 1200 / 50 Hz |
| 16:42.45 | lamp_ | thx valdyn, the install of openoffice 2.0 works |
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| 16:43.01 | mattt | what's the suggested way to configure sound in debian? i don't see it in the debian documentation. alsaconf is OK? |
| 16:43.16 | Maulkin | mattt: That's what I usually use :) |
| 16:43.18 | formorer | mattt: most times: yes |
| 16:43.20 | pipeline | mattt: It should just kinda work without your screwing with it, after you install the alsa packages. |
| 16:43.24 | wubrgamer | well |
| 16:43.33 | mattt | hmm, why wouldn't alsa get installed when you do a 'desktop' install? |
| 16:43.37 | pipeline | mattt: if it doesn't, well, then you fool with alsaconf and the like |
| 16:43.37 | eleftherios | pipeline, any ideas on how I can further investigate? top doesn't show any abnormal activity... |
| 16:43.40 | wubrgamer | i will use ubuntu, seems to be better supported |
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| 16:43.52 | eleftherios | pipeline, all I can see is a bunch of smtp connections via netstat -a |
| 16:43.59 | pipeline | eleftherios: heh, I don't really have any good ideas going from there. Try cat /proc/interrupts, lok for errorso h fuck fuck fuck |
| 16:44.04 | valdyn | wut: it is, enjoy #ubuntu |
| 16:44.05 | Maulkin | wubrgamer: Not true, but I think for you it's possibly better. |
| 16:44.05 | mattt | maulkin: worked a treat, just wanted to make sure i was doing things according to the rule. :) |
| 16:44.07 | pipeline | eleftherios: You've been fucked. |
| 16:44.19 | pipeline | eleftherios: unplug that machine from the internet; you are now a spam node :P |
| 16:44.42 | Nicky | where do i pcik language packs ? |
| 16:44.49 | pipeline | Malagmyr, valdyn : Fortunately for us, he's already gone. |
| 16:44.49 | beardy | !locales |
| 16:44.49 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/environment which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. You can override this in your personal dotfiles, of course (see http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles) |
| 16:44.56 | beardy | mick_work: ^^^ |
| 16:45.11 | streuner | Nicky: /msg dpkg search |
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| 16:45.18 | outlaw84 | Nicky: apt-cache search kde <your language> |
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| 16:45.58 | formorer | Nicky: apt-cache search kde i18n <yourlangcode> |
| 16:45.58 | beardy | mick_work: nicktab.. sorry |
| 16:46.10 | beardy | Nicky: The locales was for you. |
| 16:46.10 | outlaw84 | does anyone of you in here know what I sould do about this http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/~mihaly/cvsd ? |
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| 16:46.51 | formorer | outlaw84: add exit 0 to the initscript |
| 16:46.55 | honey | ÖÐÎÄîlµÀ£¿ |
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| 16:47.02 | Nicky | return nothing |
| 16:47.04 | beardy | honey: what? |
| 16:47.12 | outlaw84 | formorer: what? |
| 16:47.25 | formorer | formorer@lisa:~$ apt-cache search kde i18n | wc -l |
| 16:47.25 | formorer | 63 |
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| 16:47.43 | blondie | !backports |
| 16:47.44 | dpkg | backports is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 16:47.45 | formorer | outlaw84: the initscript is failing (a stupid bug) |
| 16:47.47 | eleftherios | pipeline, perhaps this is due to bounce back from forged emails sent from elsewhere but having my address on them |
| 16:47.51 | Nicky | returns 0 |
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| 16:48.07 | formorer | Nicky: then you don't have a correct configured debian |
| 16:48.16 | Nicky | ? |
| 16:48.27 | beardy | outlaw84: Why are you installing with dpkg? |
| 16:48.30 | formorer | outlaw84: and if you add exit 0 in the first line it won't fail |
| 16:48.30 | Nicky | what i'v eto do |
| 16:48.32 | outlaw84 | formorer: so I should like unpack the deb-file and change stuff in it? |
| 16:48.41 | poli | Ok... initrd has some directory hard links (/devfs to /dev2 etc). It doesnt seem to be possible to do that with a regular kernel (Opertation not permitted). I need to bake my initrd again, any ideas of how to do that without hard links? Or how to make that hard links? |
| 16:48.57 | formorer | outlaw84: no, just edit the already installed init script |
| 16:49.26 | outlaw84 | bernie: I am trying to get more debug messages by using dpkg... |
| 16:49.34 | outlaw84 | formorer: where should that be located? |
| 16:49.46 | formorer | Nicky: please paste your sources list to paste.d.n |
| 16:49.52 | formorer | outlaw84: /etc/init.d/ ? |
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| 16:49.58 | mattt | any UK users know where to get apple rebates? :) |
| 16:50.02 | pipeline | eleftherios: then how, pray tell, are people making SMTP connections to you? You should not be running a mail server open to the internet! |
| 16:50.05 | pipeline | eleftherios: Take that down! |
| 16:50.09 | outlaw84 | formorer: oh, that initscript =) |
| 16:50.13 | Nicky | lease paste your sources list to paste.d.n ? |
| 16:50.20 | beardy | formorer: Why? Is that a reported bug? |
| 16:50.31 | formorer | beardy: the cvsd one? |
| 16:50.47 | formorer | beardy: just take a look into -devel |
| 16:51.04 | formorer | in the thread from michael prokop started a few days ago |
| 16:51.06 | outlaw84 | formorer: but wont that disable the cvs? |
| 16:51.19 | formorer | about initscript throwing an error if they are already stopped |
| 16:51.37 | formorer | outlaw84: you can enable it later after installation worked |
| 16:51.37 | eleftherios | pipeline, damn, I am taking it down |
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| 16:53.03 | jj5 | when I click on links in thunderbird or on 'link' launcer files in the Gnome panel the URLs don't open in a browser. I.e. 'nothing happens'. Using gconf-editor and looking in desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http I see it configured to use gnome-www-browser, and this command opens epiphany if I run it manually from bash. Any suggestions about how I might be able to re-enbale links... |
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| 16:53.44 | formorer | Nicky: see http://paste.debian.net |
| 16:53.51 | outlaw84 | formorer: yea the error message for failing to stop cvsd is gone but the package still doesn't install.. |
| 16:54.00 | formorer | outlaw84: hm? |
| 16:54.04 | outlaw84 | I have updated the log, http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/~mihaly/cvsd |
| 16:54.16 | charzero | Where does debian's hotplug expect firmwares to be? |
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| 16:54.49 | formorer | charzero: /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ |
| 16:54.51 | eleftherios | pipeline, the server must have been hacked |
| 16:54.56 | eleftherios | cracked |
| 16:55.25 | formorer | outlaw84: give me a few seconds |
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| 16:56.20 | Nicky | ok fixed |
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| 16:56.34 | Nicky | it's normal to have readonly acces to fat32 disks ? |
| 16:56.47 | eleftherios | how can I stop this exim4 insanity without unplugging the machine from the internet? It is a remote server... |
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| 16:57.28 | beardy | Nicky: For a user yes. |
| 16:57.41 | Nicky | ? only root ? |
| 16:57.42 | beardy | !vfatrw |
| 16:57.42 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
| 16:57.48 | beardy | Nicky: ^^^ |
| 16:57.56 | formorer | outlaw84: autsch, thats a stupid bug which I'm able to reproduce |
| 16:58.04 | formorer | outlaw84: please install tmpreaper before |
| 16:58.12 | formorer | outlaw84: there is a missing dependency |
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| 16:58.44 | formorer | outlaw84: btw. please read the bts next time: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=368927 |
| 16:58.55 | beardy | eleftherios: etc/init.d/exim stop ? |
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| 16:59.02 | streuner | !dbugs 368927 |
| 16:59.05 | dpkg | #368927:I[cvsd] cvsd-buildroot fails when tmpreaper is absent; Thu, 25 May 2006 23:18:08 UTC |
| 16:59.24 | formorer | I know debugged that on my own... |
| 16:59.26 | outlaw84 | formorer: thanks alot, it works now |
| 16:59.37 | formorer | outlaw84: no problem |
| 16:59.38 | magyar | emails sent from horde are being scanned by spamassasin and there for bounced, can anyone help? |
| 16:59.59 | formorer | magyar: fix you mailscanning solution |
| 17:00.42 | formorer | btw. bouncing spam (not rejecting at smtp level) is considered evil |
| 17:00.56 | magyar | formorer: there is more to it than just that, i cant figure out who is broken, spamassassin, horde or ther mta(postfix) |
| 17:00.59 | Nicky | er. i need to edit thy file fstab ? |
| 17:01.15 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:01.15 | magyar | formorer: not bounced , rejected as spam |
| 17:01.15 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:01.17 | formorer | magyar: the content filter |
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| 17:01.34 | streuner | Nicky: read the factoid again |
| 17:01.55 | WhiteNoise | what is the comand to run a command repeatedly/over and over? |
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| 17:02.06 | formorer | while true? |
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| 17:02.23 | kimo | Hi, is there anyway for apt-get to download multiple files at the same time ? |
| 17:02.28 | magyar | formorer: the mail sent from the MTA's webclient "127.0.0.1" is generated is mail sent from the client connected to the webmail. Thats screwed |
| 17:02.30 | Nicky | factoid ? |
| 17:02.39 | streuner | !factoid |
| 17:02.39 | dpkg | somebody said factoid was something resembling a fact or unverified (often invented) information that is given credibility because it appeared in print or a brief (usually one sentence and usually trivial) news item, or often-repeated info, stored to keep people from having to repeatedly explain something This thing you're reading right now is called a "factoid". |
| 17:02.42 | WhiteNoise | forcemaster, I can try that... |
| 17:03.03 | streuner | Nicky: /msg dpkg vfatrw - /message bot factoid |
| 17:03.13 | formorer | I don't know what you are doing, so I don't have a better solution |
| 17:03.32 | Nicky | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.40 | Nicky | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:03.55 | streuner | !tell Nicky -about vfatrw |
| 17:03.58 | formorer | magyar: you have a content filter that filters the mail. Postfix nor SA alone can do this on their own. And this filter is rejecting |
| 17:04.05 | formorer | magyar: it has to be fixed |
| 17:04.19 | Nicky | i can't modity fstab |
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| 17:04.30 | eleftherios | beardy, I have done that |
| 17:04.32 | streuner | Nicky: why? |
| 17:04.45 | Nicky | when i push save it says can't write |
| 17:04.59 | streuner | Nicky: are you root? |
| 17:05.14 | Nicky | no |
| 17:05.32 | meff | anyone know where libapache2-mod-security went in sid? |
| 17:05.38 | streuner | ok, you need to be root in order to change /etc/fstab |
| 17:06.02 | Nicky | can i modify fstab from command line so i can access it with aterminal ? |
| 17:06.24 | beardy | Nicky: Of course, why shouldn't you? |
| 17:06.32 | Nicky | how ? |
| 17:06.48 | Gnea | Nicky: you have to be root |
| 17:07.03 | beardy | Nicky: '$FAVOURITE_EDITOR /etc/fstab' (be root) make a backup first, fstab.old or so |
| 17:07.08 | magyar | formorer: it is amavis and it uses calmav, and spamassassin |
| 17:07.44 | formorer | magyar: yeah, then fix amavisd that it wouldn't reject mails from localhost or fix postfix that mail from localhost do |
| 17:07.51 | formorer | n't go through the filter |
| 17:08.07 | clarity_ | has anyone got the testing cd to work from the deb website? |
| 17:08.26 | Nicky | ok i've to change /dev/hdb6 /windows vfat defaults 0 2 |
| 17:08.34 | Nicky | with /dev/hdb6 /windows vfat rw,user 0 2 |
| 17:08.35 | Nicky | right ? |
| 17:09.03 | Billionaire | I'm installing udev that remove hotplag package, but my driver ipw2200 using hotplug |
| 17:09.04 | magyar | formorer: got you, but i belive amavis and potfix have a rule in master.cf as "mynetworks 127.0.0.0/8" |
| 17:09.06 | Gnea | Nicky: yeah sure, just be root |
| 17:09.22 | Billionaire | then I reinstall hotplug... |
| 17:09.33 | Billionaire | but now the driver doesn't work |
| 17:09.39 | Billionaire | failed to load the firmware |
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| 17:10.18 | Billionaire | anyone can help me? |
| 17:10.49 | stew | Billionaire: what versions of hotplug and/or udev do you currently have installed? where is your firmware located? |
| 17:10.55 | Nicky | yes i'm root now, i wann know if i just've to replace "defaults" with uid=myuserid,gid=none,umask=002 0 0 |
| 17:11.15 | formorer | magyar: no, that won't do anything |
| 17:11.31 | Billionaire | stew, my firmware is in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| 17:11.44 | Gnea | Nicky: i guess so |
| 17:11.45 | magyar | formorer: than i am lost |
| 17:11.59 | Billionaire | stew, before unistall hotplug driver works |
| 17:12.00 | stew | Billionaire: if you want to use udev instead of hotplug you should move that to /lib/firmware |
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| 17:12.13 | Gnea | Billionaire: if you pay me, i will fix it for you. |
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| 17:12.24 | formorer | magyar: http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html#remote_only |
| 17:12.25 | Billionaire | stew, my kernel is 2.6.12, and udev want 2.6.15 |
| 17:12.26 | Nicky | o kthen i need to reboot to apply ? |
| 17:12.31 | Nicky | or what else ? |
| 17:12.36 | formorer | thanks god there is a postfix documentation |
| 17:12.43 | Billionaire | stew, I want to use hotplug |
| 17:12.58 | beardy | Nicky: No. Don't reboot. |
| 17:13.02 | Gnea | Nicky: nope, just make sure /windows isn't already mounted, and if it is, unmount it, then mount it again and the changes will take effect |
| 17:13.02 | formorer | udev != hotplug |
| 17:13.03 | Billionaire | stew, I don't change anything |
| 17:13.13 | stew | Billionaire: what version of hotplug do you have installed? |
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| 17:13.32 | Gnea | Billionaire: you should be able to use the ipw2200 with udev just fine, just upgrade your kernel |
| 17:13.37 | stew | formorer: udev on testing/unstable provides all of the hotplug functionality |
| 17:13.46 | magyar | formorer: thank you for your input |
| 17:13.46 | Billionaire | stew, 0.0.20040329-25 |
| 17:13.48 | formorer | but its not the same |
| 17:13.51 | formorer | magyar: no problem |
| 17:13.52 | Gnea | Billionaire: udev is infinately superior to hotplug |
| 17:13.54 | beardy | Nicky: Just try to mount the drive/partition as the user you configured to be able to mount it rw. |
| 17:14.12 | formorer | stew: for example they have different locations for firmware |
| 17:14.42 | Nicky | it says device in use when i do umount |
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| 17:15.07 | Gnea | Nicky: you can't have any terminals or applications accessing that directory. cd'ing to that directory counts. |
| 17:15.13 | signature16 | does anybody know how to access the numberpad on this keyboard? http://www.pc84.com/peijian/keyboard/IBM/ibm%20t30.jpg |
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| 17:15.22 | beardy | Nicky: You only have to reboot for switching kernel and hardware changes. And if you experience a real crasch/lockup, but in many cases when you think you have experienced one, you could have ssh:ed in and rebooted cleanly. |
| 17:15.28 | Maulkin | Nicky: lsof /path/to/mountpoint shoudl show you shat's using it |
| 17:15.29 | Gnea | signature16: press the numlock key |
| 17:15.52 | beardy | ... |
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| 17:16.28 | Gnea | signature16: oh wait - what's that AltGr key? |
| 17:16.48 | stew | formorer: they don't have different locations for firmware by default |
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| 17:17.01 | Eulex | signature16, numlock, then fn + number |
| 17:17.02 | signature16 | Gnea: hmm the numlk key doesnt work |
| 17:17.03 | formorer | they have at least in debian |
| 17:17.11 | Gnea | signature16: i can see that now. |
| 17:17.17 | formorer | (if we speak about testing or unstable) |
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| 17:17.20 | m1ke_l | how come when i apt-get install apache2, it does not create apache.conf file nor /etc/init.d /apache? |
| 17:17.29 | MarcoPau | Hi, I can't see the accents and the umlauts in my files, what sould I check? my locales are utf8 |
| 17:17.31 | signature16 | Gnea: actually i dont have an altgr key on my keyboard |
| 17:17.39 | stew | formorer: how do they differ then? |
| 17:17.40 | formorer | but in stable udev uses hotplug, so thats totaly different |
| 17:17.43 | Gnea | signature16: so it's not the same? |
| 17:17.51 | Eulex | !tell m1ke_l about confmiss |
| 17:17.55 | signature16 | Gnea: sorry. let me try to find a more exact picture |
| 17:18.02 | formorer | stew: /lib/firmware |
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| 17:18.06 | Gnea | signature16: ok |
| 17:18.13 | formorer | stew: for udev from testing/unstable |
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| 17:19.06 | stew | formorer: in testing/unstable, /lib/udev/hotplug.funtions and /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent both have FIRMWARE_DIRS='/lib/firmware /usr/local/lib/firmware /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware' |
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| 17:19.55 | signature16 | Gnea: thats the closest picture i can find. my kb is basically the same but it doesnt have a few of the other buttons. any other ideas? |
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| 17:20.16 | formorer | stew: but the default location is /lib |
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| 17:20.41 | Minerale | can xterm display images? |
| 17:21.02 | stew | formorer: the locations are the same for both |
| 17:21.12 | seb- | Minerale: dunno what you mean but usually you run an app to diplay images like firefox or gimp |
| 17:21.17 | formorer | sure, ascii art |
| 17:21.45 | Billionaire | stew, your suggest is to update my kernel and then install udev? |
| 17:21.52 | Minerale | no no, I mean images as you'd see them on a web browser -- can you display those on xterm? |
| 17:21.56 | formorer | stew: don't lets discuss /usr/... is considered deprecated for firmware (because is eventually not available at boot time) |
| 17:22.14 | seb- | Minerale: xterm just displays text |
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| 17:22.41 | Minerale | this browser claims to be able to display images -- it's lynx-like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W3m -- a screenshot claims it's running on xterm |
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| 17:24.07 | Meltir | k, i give up i dont know what im doing wrong here :/ |
| 17:24.50 | Meltir | i just tried to apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:24.57 | Meltir | i had to -f it to get it going |
| 17:25.22 | initech | Minerale: even a console app can display images, but it is the app, not the terminal; you don't use xterm to actually display the image |
| 17:25.33 | Meltir | still i get errors when installing a never version of x11-common |
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| 17:26.02 | Meltir | dpgk-deb.... blah....killed by signal broken pipe |
| 17:26.21 | Meltir | needless to say - i dont have an X server anymore |
| 17:26.37 | stew | Billionaire: either udev or hotplug should work. can you show us the exact error message you are getting? |
| 17:26.40 | Minerale | initech: therefore the person who put the screenshot up and claimed it was xterm was lying? |
| 17:26.46 | stew | Meltir: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 17:27.16 | blondie | running in framebuffer mode probably |
| 17:27.17 | ma3x | what's the shortcut for "page preview" in openoffice writer? |
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| 17:27.28 | Java63548 | hallo leute |
| 17:27.35 | Meltir | stew: see, thats the thing. i cant really paste a line of text without X |
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| 17:27.45 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 17:27.45 | dpkg | it has been said that pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m |
| 17:27.46 | Java63548 | hello |
| 17:28.11 | Java63548 | did anyone know a iptables gui for debian ? |
| 17:28.34 | Meltir | apt-get <do anything> <any package> fails due to the problems with x11-common |
| 17:28.46 | stew | Meltir: you have to tell us what problems |
| 17:29.17 | Meltir | k, ill type - but it may take a while |
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| 17:29.30 | valdyn | !wayttd Java63548 |
| 17:29.30 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Java63548? |
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| 17:29.37 | Minerale | initech: you are wrong, xterm can display images: http://www.pycs.net/lateral/weblog/2004/05/24.html |
| 17:29.43 | ab3l | !vfatrw |
| 17:29.43 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
| 17:29.45 | Billionaire | stew, from dmesg I less: ipw2200: ipw-2.4-boot.fw load failed: Reason -2 |
| 17:29.45 | Billionaire | ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -2 |
| 17:29.52 | Minerale | stew: can you verify that xterm displays images? |
| 17:29.52 | cahoot | ma3x: you do not think of alt-f-g? |
| 17:29.55 | Java63548 | i want configure iptables ports with a gui :) |
| 17:30.43 | ma3x | cahoot, how do you know that g is for page preview? |
| 17:30.45 | stew | Minerale: yes. it does |
| 17:30.59 | valdyn | Java63548: you want to WHAT? |
| 17:31.19 | Vasistha | Java63548: I like guarddog as a gui firewall configurator |
| 17:31.40 | stew | Billionaire: cp ipw-2.4-boot.fw to /lib/firmware and try again |
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| 17:31.55 | cahoot | ma3x: you don't want to know how I figured it out - it works at least for english setup |
| 17:31.57 | Java63548 | Vasistha oh nice :) i will check it ! thank you |
| 17:31.57 | Billionaire | stew, done |
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| 17:32.09 | Billionaire | stew, but not work |
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| 17:33.31 | Sweet_kate | hello!! |
| 17:33.34 | ma3x | cahoot, I don't want to know how you found that out. But I really want to know how it works, as to be able to select another functions from the File Menu, like print |
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| 17:33.43 | Nicky | what's wrong in the following string in fstab /dev/hdb6 /windows vfat defaults,uid=myusername,umask=002 0 0 |
| 17:33.45 | rramos | hi everyone |
| 17:33.45 | Nicky | ? |
| 17:33.48 | Java63548 | Vasistha thank you |
| 17:33.58 | Vasistha | Java63548: you're welcome |
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| 17:34.05 | Sweet_kate | how can i "load" my printer on kubuntu now that i have started the pc with it turned off?? |
| 17:34.20 | Java63548 | Vasistha :) |
| 17:34.29 | Vasistha | Sweet_kate: heh, you might want to ask the good folks in #kubuntu they will be better equipped to help you |
| 17:34.32 | valdyn | Nicky: why do you think that something is wrong with it? |
| 17:34.35 | robin_sz | quick netwroky question .. I seem to remeber having to echo 1 > /proc/net/something to enable ipforwarding? |
| 17:34.44 | Vasistha | Sweet_kate: or #ubuntu |
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| 17:35.10 | beardy | Sweet_kate: /join #ubuntu |
| 17:35.14 | valdyn | robin_sz: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 17:35.22 | Sweet_kate | okokok |
| 17:35.22 | Vasistha | Nicky: I'm not certain, but I think uid has to be a number rather than a name |
| 17:35.23 | valdyn | robin_sz: ( on 2.6 kernels ) |
| 17:35.26 | robin_sz | valdyn, thanks |
| 17:35.31 | beardy | Sweet_kate: Just switch it on. |
| 17:35.36 | robin_sz | hmmm |
| 17:35.42 | Vasistha | Nicky: does it work if you take the uid and umask parts out? |
| 17:35.51 | Nicky | 'cause when i access thy from filemanager it yells : only root can mount /dev/hdb6 on /windows - check that the disk is entered correctly |
| 17:35.55 | Sweet_kate | hmmm it sends the document to the printer but nothing come s up!! |
| 17:36.25 | valdyn | Nicky: well you didnt make it user mountable, so your fstab line is ok, and your filemanager reports the right error |
| 17:36.26 | beardy | Sweet_kate: wait a bit, but please ask #ubuntu instead |
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| 17:36.54 | Sweet_kate | beardy: already asked there but help me you too!! |
| 17:36.55 | Sweet_kate | :D |
| 17:37.19 | Nicky | so what i've to change |
| 17:37.20 | Nicky | ? |
| 17:37.24 | Vasistha | Nicky: oh, add the word "users" or "user" to the list including defaults, uid, etc -- that will allow normal users to mount |
| 17:37.30 | valdyn | Nicky: to achieve what? |
| 17:37.44 | Meltir | stew: could you join flood ? i dont want to spit that big thing out in here |
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| 17:37.48 | Nicky | to access thy /windows/ with read&write permission |
| 17:38.07 | cahoot | Sweet_kate: any variant of ghostscript installed? |
| 17:38.09 | valdyn | Nicky: type 'mount /dev/hdb6' in a shell, as root, tell us the error |
| 17:38.19 | Vasistha | !paste Meltir |
| 17:38.19 | dpkg | Meltir: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 17:38.34 | Nicky | ok done |
| 17:38.39 | Meltir | Vasistha: thus the invitation to #flood |
| 17:38.39 | beardy | Sweet_kate: I don't know what's wrong. My guess is your printer is waiting for something, perhaps to initialize, or something, cleaning and so on. Wait a while, then power off and on it again, look for blinking lights, check paper, ink, and so on. |
| 17:38.42 | Nicky | 10x |
| 17:38.51 | valdyn | Nicky: df | grep windows |
| 17:38.54 | Nicky | what's need for te ntfs ? |
| 17:38.59 | Java63548 | Vasistha are they any gui for win32 pc's too ? |
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| 17:39.03 | Vasistha | Meltir: can't post to the paste bin? oh well, just thought I'd recommend it |
| 17:39.12 | Meltir | Vasistha: no X. |
| 17:39.18 | valdyn | !confuse Nicky |
| 17:39.18 | Meltir | thats the problem :( |
| 17:39.18 | dpkg | Yes, those is your gerbil tomorrow, Nicky? pants of the dictatorship of swaziland with extra cream |
| 17:39.30 | Vasistha | Meltir: try lynx ;-) it's a text-based web browser |
| 17:39.31 | valdyn | Nicky: did that mount command give an error? |
| 17:39.35 | Nicky | no |
| 17:39.40 | Nicky | now it works properly |
| 17:39.44 | Meltir | Vasistha: still no paste capability :) |
| 17:39.48 | Nicky | so i'm shifting to other prloblems |
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| 17:40.01 | Java63548 | Vasistha are they any gui for win32 pc's too (topic: iptables) ? |
| 17:40.02 | Vasistha | Java63548: mmm, I dunno. Certainly not made by the same people. I think I once used ZoneAlarm, but... that's a topic for another channel |
| 17:40.08 | Nicky | one is accessing the ntfs partiton as well as the fat32 that now works |
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| 17:40.10 | beardy | Meltir: or links, or links2, or w3m |
| 17:40.16 | valdyn | Nicky: ok - your mistake was: /etc/fstab entries are only automatically mounted on at boot time, not when you edit it |
| 17:40.22 | Vasistha | Java63548: iptables is not on windows |
| 17:40.23 | clarity_ | Vasistha: the etch cds don't work... |
| 17:40.29 | clarity_ | what's up with that! |
| 17:40.44 | clarity_ | it won't go past the partition disk section |
| 17:40.46 | Meltir | beardy: apt-get <whatever> fails with an error. i dont have w3m, or even a console configured mouse for that matter |
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| 17:40.58 | Java63548 | Vasistha ok i cant configure it with windows only with linux then ? |
| 17:41.00 | ruied | I've installed nfs-kernel-server portmap and nfs-common, when I make a /et/initd/nfs-kernel-server restart, it hangs for 3 or four minuts, and it doesn't seem to start the nfs |
| 17:41.07 | beardy | Meltir: WHat error. |
| 17:41.08 | beardy | !gpm |
| 17:41.09 | dpkg | it has been said that gpm is if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
| 17:41.11 | beardy | ? |
| 17:41.12 | Nicky | well so i need some tool for access to the ntfs disk ? |
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| 17:41.15 | Vasistha | Java63548: uhhh, the firewall in linux will only work when you are booted in linux. |
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| 17:41.17 | valdyn | Java63548: the GUI is part of windows, but this is not a windows support channel, obviously |
| 17:41.27 | Meltir | i cant install gpm.... |
| 17:41.28 | ruied | what could be wrong |
| 17:41.30 | ruied | ? |
| 17:41.32 | Sweet_kate | beardy: i thimk it's waiting..but i have done so but nothing comes up!! |
| 17:41.32 | Meltir | gah, here goes: |
| 17:41.42 | Meltir | `apt-get -f dist-upgrade` last couple of lines are (more or less - im skipping spec revisions here) unpacking x11-common \n dpkg error processing /var/ca.../x11-common...deb\n --unpack:\n trying to overwrite /etc/x11/xsession.options which is also in package xfree86-common\n dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe)\n errors were encountered...\n ....x11-common....deb\n e: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 17:41.48 | Vasistha | Java63548: if you configure a firewall in linux, and then boot into windows, you will no longer have that firewall running |
| 17:42.00 | Meltir | same thing for any package i try to install, remove or whatever |
| 17:42.15 | Vasistha | Nicky: yeah... you may need to install a module or something, or just turn it on |
| 17:42.27 | Nicky | what's the module to install ? |
| 17:42.34 | Java63548 | Vasistha ok there are also no ports that opened for configure from win32 pc :( shit.. |
| 17:42.38 | Nicky | i practically does not see the ntfs disk at all |
| 17:42.47 | ruied | I've installed nfs-kernel-server portmap and nfs-common, when I make a /et/initd/nfs-kernel-server restart, it hangs for 3 or four minuts, and it doesn't seem to start the nfs, what could be wrong? |
| 17:42.54 | valdyn | Java63548: you seem to be trying to do something that you do not understand at all, maybe tell us more about what you really need to get done |
| 17:43.01 | beardy | Nicky: You don't see it? When you mount it or what? |
| 17:43.07 | Nicky | don't see |
| 17:43.10 | Vasistha | Java63548: well, if you need win32 support then you need to go to a different channel |
| 17:43.33 | beardy | Nicky: How are you looking? |
| 17:43.46 | Vasistha | Nicky: well, you can definitely see it with fdisk -l /dev/hda |
| 17:43.55 | Java63548 | Vasistha :) yeah i have understand i can only configure in linux and not with win32 :) sorry |
| 17:43.59 | blondie | should mount points inside NFS shares have their contents shown on the NFS client? |
| 17:44.20 | valdyn | blondie: eh? |
| 17:44.35 | Vasistha | Java63548: you DO understand that your linux iptables guarddog firewall will not work when you are booted in windows, right? |
| 17:44.48 | Java63548 | Vasistha yes |
| 17:44.51 | ruied | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.55 | Vasistha | Java63548: okay, just checking ;-) |
| 17:44.59 | Nicky | with fdisk i can see it |
| 17:45.12 | ruied | nfsd[26682]: nfssvc: Input/output error |
| 17:45.30 | Java63548 | Vasistha i can use ssh to configure from win32 :P thats working hihi |
| 17:45.35 | valdyn | Vasistha: add to that that he doesnt even have to do it on either, most probably |
| 17:45.44 | Vasistha | Nicky: it's very helpful if you type our names before sending a message, then the messages get highlighted for us |
| 17:46.03 | Java63548 | Vasistha thanks again dude |
| 17:46.12 | Vasistha | valdyn: every time I think I understand what he's trying to do, he throws me a curveball! hehheh |
| 17:46.23 | valdyn | Vasistha: yea |
| 17:46.36 | Nicky | Vasistha ok |
| 17:46.39 | Vasistha | Nicky: let's see, I'm thinkin' here... |
| 17:47.06 | Vasistha | Nicky: unfortunately I don't have an ntfs volume to play around with! |
| 17:47.09 | valdyn | Nicky: mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /path/to/mountpoint |
| 17:47.23 | Java63548 | !waitdd |
| 17:47.30 | beardy | Nicky: What kernel are you running? Have you compiled it yourself? |
| 17:47.32 | charzero | I've now got a functional Debian laptop. Thanks to those who assisted me. |
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| 17:48.08 | blondie | valdyn: I mean I have a directory shared by NFS, and a directory inside that which is another mount point, the contents of that don't show up on the remote machines using NFS |
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| 17:48.11 | Nicky | valdyn i tried mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/xp |
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| 17:48.26 | Vasistha | Nicky: and what was the result? |
| 17:48.27 | Nicky | valdyn but it says mount point /mnt/xp does not exist |
| 17:48.31 | valdyn | Nicky: /dev/hda is not a partition |
| 17:48.48 | valdyn | Nicky: /mnt/xp probably does not exist, go and see |
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| 17:49.01 | valdyn | Nicky: a mount point is a directory |
| 17:49.09 | beardy | Nicky: You have to 1), enter the partition number, as in /dev/hda1, 2) create that "xp" directory before mounting, and not stand in it when mounting |
| 17:49.25 | Vasistha | Nicky: remember when you did fdisk? figure out the device that the ntfs partition was on e.g. /dev/hda7 or whatever, get that number. Also, mkdir /mnt/xp |
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| 17:50.20 | beardy | Nicky: Well, 2) have to be done first. |
| 17:50.49 | ruied | my nfs server isn't working... /var/log/syslog reports Router kernel: portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out |
| 17:50.52 | Nicky | ok it works fine |
| 17:50.54 | Nicky | 10x |
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| 17:51.10 | ruied | kernel 2.4.27 |
| 17:51.15 | kimo | Hey, can I specify which program to use for downloading stuff with apt-get ?? |
| 17:51.24 | valdyn | blondie: i understand now, unfortunately i dont know why that is so or how to fix |
| 17:51.32 | beardy | kimo: Why? |
| 17:51.33 | Vasistha | kimo: is there a problem with wget? |
| 17:51.43 | valdyn | blondie: im sure its a switch or a bug, not a general feature of nfs |
| 17:52.13 | kimo | beardy: Vasistha I want to use axel to download from multi-location, which wget doesnt support |
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| 17:52.24 | Vasistha | hrm |
| 17:52.34 | beardy | kimo: Don't. |
| 17:52.38 | BarryAllen | hi all |
| 17:52.47 | Vasistha | BarryAllen: g'day |
| 17:52.48 | BarryAllen | anyone have some expirience with dh_make ? |
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| 17:52.56 | Vasistha | !ask BarryAllen |
| 17:53.00 | Vasistha | hrm |
| 17:53.07 | Vasistha | BarryAllen: feel free to just ask your question |
| 17:53.11 | beardy | BarryAllen: Please ask your question. |
| 17:53.16 | kimo | Vasistha: do u know apt uses wget? (not some internal code?) |
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| 17:53.29 | epsilon | kimo: how about a local mirror of packages you usualy need? |
| 17:53.30 | Vasistha | kimo: yes, apt uses wget. |
| 17:53.55 | kimo | epsilon: I'm only apt-get'ing for one system? |
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| 17:54.21 | Meltir | how can i get dpkg to be more verbose ? |
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| 17:54.59 | beardy | Meltir: --verbose isn't available? |
| 17:55.05 | ice_1963 | Vasistha, are you useing kde? |
| 17:55.12 | robin_z | valdyn, thanks for that, can you tell me what the debian-preffered method would be for echo > 1 /procs/sys/blah on start up is? so I dont have to remember to do it again next year |
| 17:55.15 | Meltir | no |
| 17:55.21 | BarryAllen | beardy, im trying to pack my app for debian ... i read the maint-guide ate debian.org bug.... when i treu use dh_make ... it warn-me about no Makefile on the toplevel directory (but it is there on my tar)..... and after.... just i have is a subdirectory debian in my current directory (no sources).... need i unpack ../my_app-xx.tar.gz ? |
| 17:55.30 | Vasistha | ice_1963: yeah, why? got a question? ... (#debian-kde might be a better place but I'll maybe help you here) |
| 17:55.36 | beardy | Meltir: Read the manual, check for debug, search verbose and so on. |
| 17:55.55 | peterS | BarryAllen: yes, dh_make requires that you unpack the tarball first |
| 17:55.59 | valdyn | blondie: did you mount that 2nd partition BEFORE you exported / started nfs? |
| 17:56.20 | beardy | BarryAllen: It's better to ask the entire channel, when asking at first, without adressing a specific person. |
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| 17:56.56 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 17:56.57 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 17:57.02 | valdyn | robin_z: ^^^ |
| 17:57.17 | fluor- | hi there - is there a howto on how to remove that $^"* udev from my system (cleanly, preferably)? |
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| 17:57.23 | Usiu | Hi |
| 17:57.29 | valdyn | robin_z: shorewall and probably most other firewall setup tools will do it too |
| 17:57.37 | Usiu | When xserver-xgl and compiz will be in debian ?? |
| 17:57.40 | BarryAllen | peterS, i was using -e my_mail -f ../myapp.tar.gz.... the better way is unpack it first and does not use -f ../myapp.tar.gz? |
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| 17:58.11 | peterS | Usiu: xgl is probably dead, you want to wait for xorg 7.1 with aiglx or whatever that's called |
| 17:58.17 | valdyn | robin_z: so there's no standard way, most probably, debian has no standard firewall setup |
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| 17:58.27 | peterS | BarryAllen: it has a man page |
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| 17:58.34 | valdyn | robin_z: ( except that haveing no firewall setup at all, that's the default ) |
| 17:58.39 | beardy | Usiu: When it's ready, if it doesn't have any legal/policy problems |
| 17:58.45 | BoBo`BoSs | sal cineva on |
| 17:58.45 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 17:59.06 | peterS | BarryAllen: but yes, even with -f you have to start inside an unpacked tree |
| 17:59.09 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: What language is that? |
| 17:59.13 | BoBo`BoSs | Romania |
| 17:59.17 | beardy | !ro |
| 17:59.24 | BoBo`BoSs | !ro |
| 17:59.31 | valdyn | peterS: why do you think it's dead? |
| 17:59.45 | BoBo`BoSs | date |
| 17:59.45 | BoBo`BoSs | ma maalis 20 07:56:20 EET 2000 |
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| 17:59.52 | peterS | valdyn: because I heard keith packard say more or less that a few days ago at debconf |
| 17:59.57 | BoBo`BoSs | what is comand to set date and time |
| 17:59.57 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:00.01 | valdyn | peterS: ah, thanks |
| 18:00.03 | beardy | !set the time |
| 18:00.03 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 18:00.08 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: ^^^ |
| 18:00.13 | magyar | formorer: you there? |
| 18:00.14 | peterS | valdyn: it's not *dead* exactly, but he thinks it will probably not be the long-term solution |
| 18:00.26 | BoBo`BoSs | romanian pls |
| 18:00.37 | valdyn | peterS: but aiglx does? or something else? |
| 18:00.43 | Maulkin | BoBo`BoSs: We don't speak romanian... |
| 18:00.44 | robin_z | valdyn, I dont *think* I want to do nat or masquerading .. its just forwarding |
| 18:00.45 | phaedrus_ | god damn!...any help with wine? |
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| 18:00.47 | phaedrus_ | hehe |
| 18:00.49 | BoBo`BoSs | :( |
| 18:00.55 | formorer | magyar: yes |
| 18:00.58 | Vasistha | BoBo`BoSs: date --set |
| 18:01.00 | peterS | valdyn: yeah, he named a few problems with the xgl approach which aiglx doesn't have |
| 18:01.15 | robin_z | valdyn, so just add it manually to the end of the /etc/init.d/network script? |
| 18:01.17 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: date --set "ma maalis 27 07:56:20 EET 2006" |
| 18:01.25 | Vasistha | BoBo`BoSs: also tzconfig |
| 18:01.26 | mattt | how safe is it upgrading 3.0 -> 3.1 -> 3.2 etc.? |
| 18:01.35 | valdyn | robin_z: i wouldnt change that script |
| 18:01.36 | BoBo`BoSs | date --set "ma maalis 27 07:56:20 EET 2006" |
| 18:01.37 | BoBo`BoSs | date: invalid date `ma maalis 27 07:56:20 EET 2006' |
| 18:01.45 | Maulkin | mattt: 3.0 -> 3.1 should be very safe. |
| 18:01.48 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: Perhaps.. I don't understand "ma maalis" but I guess it's the month? |
| 18:01.48 | peterS | valdyn: basically: xgl runs the X protocol on top of OpenGL, but this is really hard to do in practice because the X spec requires getting all pixel values exact, and opengl in general doesn't |
| 18:01.55 | magyar | formorer: i followed the "content filtering" which works perfect, but as soon as insert the "content filter" in master.cf, it breaks sasl_auth |
| 18:02.01 | Maulkin | mattt: 3.1 -> 3.x may or may not work at any given point in time |
| 18:02.03 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: date --set "ma maalis 27 07:56:20 2006" |
| 18:02.12 | valdyn | robin_z: though that file isnt the worst solution, i'd prefer adding a hook in /etc/network/interfaces, but umm, doesnt look perfect to me either |
| 18:02.15 | Meltir | gah. nothing. im going back to sarge if its this unstable when upgrading. |
| 18:02.26 | peterS | valdyn: aiglx gives each backend driver the option of using (its own) opengl calls. harder to write drivers, perhaps, but you can control the accuracy of the rendering because the same person is writing both ends |
| 18:02.35 | BoBo`BoSs | date --set ma maalis 27 07:56:20 2006 |
| 18:02.35 | BoBo`BoSs | date: too many non-option arguments: 27 ... |
| 18:02.36 | BoBo`BoSs | Try `date --help' for more information. |
| 18:02.43 | robin_z | valdyn, so I could just add the command to the end of the interfaces file? |
| 18:02.46 | formorer | magyar: you have to adjust the client_restrictions part |
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| 18:02.57 | mattt | Maulkin: why do more distros not have rolling releases? |
| 18:02.58 | formorer | magyar: the entry in the master.cf overwrites the one from the main.cf |
| 18:03.02 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: You have to have the quotation marks, the two " " |
| 18:03.16 | formorer | magyar: so there should be the same in the master.cf as previous in the main.cf |
| 18:03.17 | BarryAllen | peterS, tks, it not more warn me about no makefile tks :) |
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| 18:03.33 | robin_z | valdyn, ahh, found it ... in /etc/network/options |
| 18:03.35 | magyar | formorer: roger, thanks again |
| 18:03.44 | robin_z | valdyn, ip_forward=yes |
| 18:03.46 | formorer | nop |
| 18:04.05 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: exactly as this --> date --set "ma maalis 27 07:56:20 2006" |
| 18:04.16 | pngwen | Is there an option for apt-get (configuration or commandline) that will cause it to install suggested packages? I've been searching the net for hours, only to find references to documents that don't even mention suggested packages. |
| 18:04.28 | BoBo`BoSs | -bash-2.05b$ date --set "ma maalis 27 07:56:20 2006" |
| 18:04.29 | BoBo`BoSs | date: invalid date `ma maalis 27 07:56:20 2006' |
| 18:04.31 | Maulkin | mattt: What do you mean by 'rolling releases'? |
| 18:04.32 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:05.02 | mattt | Maulkin: like arch linux for eg, as long as you stay up to date you'll be using their latest release ... therefore you never have to upgrade from one minor release to another. |
| 18:05.03 | streuner | rellocation error in xine, using ALSA, does somebody else got that in unstable? |
| 18:05.26 | peterS | mattt: if you want to run debian unstable, you have exactly that. however, unstable is unstable. |
| 18:05.32 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: Run 'date', copy what that says, put it inside date --set " put date's output here ", and change the date so it becomes the correct date. |
| 18:05.37 | Maulkin | mattt: Well, we do. You could use testing, for example |
| 18:05.45 | valdyn | peterS: yea, i see, im in no posistition to argue how much more difficult that will make developing 'complete' drivers |
| 18:06.09 | peterS | valdyn: right, I'm not a driver developer either |
| 18:06.20 | mattt | cool, thanks |
| 18:06.26 | Vasistha | BoBo`BoSs: how about date --set "2006-05-27 07:56:20" |
| 18:06.40 | valdyn | robin_z: ah, cool |
| 18:07.16 | Maulkin | BoBo`BoSs: apt-get install ntpdate; ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 18:07.21 | valdyn | robin_z: are you on sarge? that file is deprecated now. ( after sarge ) |
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| 18:07.36 | BoBo`BoSs | date --set "2006-05-27 07:56:20" |
| 18:07.36 | BoBo`BoSs | date: cannot set date: Toiminto ei ole sallittu |
| 18:07.36 | BoBo`BoSs | la touko 27 07:56:20 EEST 2006 |
| 18:07.38 | pngwen | can apt auto install the suggested packages? Or do I need to write a shell script that parses out the suggested packages and installs them? |
| 18:07.48 | beardy | Maulkin: It will probably only whine, since he had it 6 years wrong.. |
| 18:08.04 | adii | hello, for some reasons i need to use mad wifi with etch, is that possible ? "madwifi" isn't available |
| 18:08.13 | Maulkin | beardy: erk :| |
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| 18:08.20 | Vasistha | BoBo`BoSs: are you root? |
| 18:08.25 | BoBo`BoSs | no |
| 18:08.32 | Vasistha | BoBo`BoSs: su root to set date |
| 18:08.33 | BoBo`BoSs | now i am root |
| 18:08.33 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: :) You have to be root. |
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| 18:08.37 | BoBo`BoSs | :) |
| 18:08.39 | BoBo`BoSs | sorry |
| 18:08.42 | Vasistha | beardy: hehe after all that |
| 18:08.58 | pngwen | there should be a way for apt to auto-install suggested packages, but apparently it's a secret! :-P |
| 18:09.00 | magyar | formorer: i don think its that, the reason being i am connecting from abroad. I get "warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory" |
| 18:09.01 | BoBo`BoSs | sh-2.05b# date --set "2006-05-27 07:56:20" |
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| 18:09.01 | BoBo`BoSs | Sat May 27 07:56:20 EEST 2006 |
| 18:09.01 | BoBo`BoSs | sh-2.05b# |
| 18:09.03 | BoBo`BoSs | goot :D |
| 18:09.06 | BoBo`BoSs | good :D |
| 18:09.14 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: Yes, good. |
| 18:09.18 | BoBo`BoSs | :))) |
| 18:09.18 | Vasistha | !beer BoBo`BoSs |
| 18:09.24 | BoBo`BoSs | txs |
| 18:09.38 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: You're welcome. |
| 18:09.54 | thingfish | pngwen: aptitude has an option to install recommended packages. |
| 18:09.58 | Vasistha | pngwen: I think there may be an option in synaptic to select suggested packages |
| 18:10.12 | BoBo`BoSs | checking for libpq++.h... configure: error: Unable to find libpq++.h |
| 18:10.13 | BoBo`BoSs | www:/home/gnuworld/gnuworld# make |
| 18:10.21 | BoBo`BoSs | what is it ? |
| 18:10.28 | pngwen | thingfish: I know aptitude does, but I don't like it. Too long to load, horrible interface, I love being able to just type a package's name and get it! |
| 18:10.40 | BoBo`BoSs | sorry but i do not speak very good english :( |
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| 18:10.55 | formorer | pngwen: aptitude install <packagename> |
| 18:10.58 | thingfish | pngwen: aptitude install foo isn't trim enough for you? |
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| 18:11.14 | Vasistha | BoBo`BoSs: apt-get install libpq-dev |
| 18:11.36 | pngwen | thingfish: The only thing I've seen of aptitude is a weird ncurses interface. If it can do an install like apt-get can, I might consider it! |
| 18:11.38 | Vasistha | BoBo`BoSs: or maybe apt-get install libpqxx-dev |
| 18:11.38 | formorer | pngwen: aptitude --with-recommends install <packagename> |
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| 18:11.45 | BoBo`BoSs | Vasistha |
| 18:11.45 | BoBo`BoSs | apt-get install libpq-dev |
| 18:11.45 | BoBo`BoSs | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 18:11.45 | BoBo`BoSs | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 18:11.45 | BoBo`BoSs | E: Couldn't find package libpq-dev |
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| 18:12.13 | magyar | formorer: the break of sasl only occures when i add "-o content_filter" to the wan ip therefore there is no "smtpd_client_restrictions" there |
| 18:12.13 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
| 18:12.13 | thingfish | pngwen: you can easily use aptitude without its curses interface. man aptitude. |
| 18:12.19 | formorer | BoBo`BoSs: postgresql-dev |
| 18:12.41 | pngwen | thingfish: ok, aptitude seems keen on removing half my system if I do that. |
| 18:12.46 | thingfish | hehe |
| 18:12.49 | beardy | BoBo`BoSs: Use a pastebin to paste if you paste many lines. /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 18:12.51 | thingfish | fun aptitude! |
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| 18:13.02 | formorer | magyar: hm? |
| 18:13.02 | pngwen | thingfish: apt-get each individually and it won't, it just installs the packages |
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| 18:13.27 | pngwen | thingfish: I'll just make a script to handle it. apt-get needs that feature, aptitude is too dangerous for use! :-P |
| 18:13.29 | robin_sz | valdyn, that did it .. rebooted and comes up fine. thanks |
| 18:13.55 | thingfish | pngwen: aptitude works best when you use it exclusively. |
| 18:14.15 | pngwen | thingfish: Ah, I see the problem. Aptitude seems to assume that just because a package is not required my other packaes that you aren't using it. |
| 18:14.22 | magyar | formorer: good news is it appears to be effecting only etch, sarge works without issues |
| 18:14.35 | pngwen | thingfish: like for instance, open office, or emacs, you know those useless programs I've got kicking around :-P |
| 18:14.36 | beardy | robin_sz: '/etc/init.d/networking restart' is enough, isnät it? |
| 18:14.57 | beardy | robin_sz: If even that is needed. |
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| 18:15.02 | lars-ut | installing software RAID on Parallel ATA drives - I booted with linux26 off 31r2-i386-netinst - seems really sluggish during install |
| 18:15.13 | thingfish | pngwen: funny...I use aptitude all the time and don't run into that. |
| 18:15.17 | pngwen | thingfish: is there an --dont-remove-my-system option for aptitude? |
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| 18:15.52 | thingfish | pngwen: what it does is all spelled out in its man page. |
| 18:15.53 | pngwen | thingfish: it labels about 102 packages as "unused" and by and large they are programs I depend on. |
| 18:15.55 | strefli3 | hello |
| 18:15.56 | formorer | magyar: ah, sounds strange |
| 18:16.06 | samfreed | anyone know any dowftware to give me a list of how I deviate from Debian? I mean, list all the files on my system that did not originate on deian.org. |
| 18:16.08 | robin_sz | beardy, might be enough, but I prefer to give these things the real test, so you KNOW it works right after a powerfail ... |
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| 18:16.15 | Vasistha | strefli3: welcome! if you have a question, feel free to just ask |
| 18:16.25 | magyar | formorer: when i add "-o content_filter=filter-service:filter-destination" this to master.cf, i get a "warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory" "warning: SASL authentication failure: Password verification failed" "warning: 206-248-137-43.dsl.teksavvy.com[206.248.137.43]: SASL PLAIN authentication failed" |
| 18:16.28 | robin_sz | beardy, blessed are the parnoid, for they test their configurations |
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| 18:16.42 | beardy | robin_sz: True, just so you know. |
| 18:16.52 | pngwen | thingfish: why are there multiple managers for this? is apt-get depricated or something? Is there a migration guide so I don't get left behind AND I get to keep my functionality? |
| 18:17.04 | samfreed | anyone know any software to give me a list of how I deviate from Debian? I mean, list all the files on my system that did not originate on deian.org. |
| 18:17.13 | Vasistha | !repeat |
| 18:17.13 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 18:17.30 | thingfish | pngwen: actually I don't know that apt-get is quite yet being deprecated, but I do know that aptitude is now the recommended tool. |
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| 18:17.45 | Vasistha | samfreed: I kind of doubt any such software exists |
| 18:17.49 | formorer | magyar: args. you have switched chroot of! |
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| 18:18.03 | pngwen | thingfish: but what about how it marks packages as "unused" basically in its view, the only thing it won't remove would be libraries |
| 18:18.22 | pngwen | thingfish: I know there has to be a way around that, or else no one would use it. |
| 18:18.23 | lars-ut | any ideas on why a software RAID 31r2-i386-netinst install would be slow? (right now it's taking me several minutes to assign moutnpoints for / /boot & swap while I wait for responses from installer) |
| 18:18.25 | samfreed | vasistha: Odd. It would be very useful - every time it works for everyone xcpet me... |
| 18:18.28 | Vasistha | samfreed: part of the reason is it would be difficult to differentiate files in /etc that are different default configurations, vs. configurations changed by you |
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| 18:18.38 | thingfish | pngwen: If you build your system with aptitude, that doesn't happen. |
| 18:18.47 | thingfish | pngwen: unless you're using etch or sid. |
| 18:18.58 | thingfish | then who knows what you might run into. |
| 18:19.03 | formorer | magyar: if you change the chroot behaviour sasl authd is not able to find his socket |
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| 18:19.19 | pngwen | thingfish: so basically, even though it uses the same thing on the back end, you have to stay with the one your install guide pointed you at |
| 18:19.19 | samfreed | vasistha: even if it gave me many false-positives, would be nice to find all the ways I messed myself up! |
| 18:19.21 | Vasistha | samfreed: are you saying you know of a package? There may very well be one, I just don't know about it |
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| 18:19.43 | thingfish | pngwen: it seems to help in avoiding what you're experiencing. |
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| 18:20.04 | samfreed | no, I am looking for such a package... |
| 18:20.16 | pngwen | thingfish: what about a guide for "Migrating away from what we tricked you into doing" document :-P The install guide does have you use apt-get |
| 18:20.22 | valdyn | samfreed: apt-cache show cruft |
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| 18:20.50 | linus^^ | i've just installed debian 3.1r2 and ACPI doesn't work, why? |
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| 18:20.55 | hid3_ | Is there any way I can change the IRQ number which is assigned for my network device? (IDE controller and network device share the same IRQs..) |
| 18:21.11 | formorer | time for food |
| 18:21.16 | valdyn | samfreed: mind, you need to understand why each file is 'cruft', dont trust this tool blindly or you might end up with a broken system |
| 18:21.17 | pngwen | thingfish: Like, is there a way for me to mark packages as "in use"? |
| 18:21.20 | peterS | hid3_: probably not, unless your BIOS setup has a way. it generally doesn't cause problems, though |
| 18:21.32 | Meltir | gah. i cant even force to uninstall this shit, cause the smart dep resolver doesnt let me! |
| 18:21.45 | thingfish | pngwen: you need to read aptitude's man page. I don't know anything more than what's contained in there. |
| 18:21.46 | samfreed | valdyn: Thanks. I turst no-one, especially myself. |
| 18:21.47 | hid3_ | peterS: it already caused problems. It's a pity, but the bios is too poor.. |
| 18:21.51 | peterS | pngwen: running aptitude interactively, you can turn the 'automatically installed' flag on and off. it is off by default for anything you did not use aptitude to install |
| 18:21.52 | Meltir | anyone have any ideas for a time when everything goes this wrong ? |
| 18:22.09 | peterS | hid3_: then move the NIC to another PCI slot, sometimes these things are controlled purely by PCI slot |
| 18:22.15 | valdyn | Meltir: you ever going to paste your precise error messages? |
| 18:22.16 | Vasistha | linus^^: ls /proc/acpi |
| 18:22.25 | samfreed | valdyn: Does it also report modded config files? |
| 18:22.26 | Meltir | `apt-get -f dist-upgrade` last couple of lines are (more or less - im skipping spec revisions here) unpacking x11-common \n dpkg error processing /var/ca.../x11-common...deb\n --unpack:\n trying to overwrite /etc/x11/xsession.options which is also in package xfree86-common\n dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (broken pipe)\n errors were encountered...\n ....x11-common....deb\n e: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 18:22.51 | Vasistha | Meltir: when everything goes wrong? panic |
| 18:22.51 | valdyn | samfreed: i havent used it since hamm or somesuch, i dont know |
| 18:23.05 | valdyn | samfreed: or potato maybe, its old |
| 18:23.08 | SkyBlueshoes | you could just try kicking it... |
| 18:23.11 | samfreed | valdyn: Thanks anyway. |
| 18:23.12 | pngwen | peterS: How does automatically installed even enter into it? The man page mentions nothing of this behavior, btw |
| 18:23.15 | Meltir | Vasistha: im pretty close to that |
| 18:23.41 | Vasistha | Meltir: :-) |
| 18:23.44 | peterS | pngwen: if you didn't explicitly ask to install something, but it only got installed automatically because of a dependency, then aptitude assumes that you don't really want it, so it will remove it any time nothing depends on it |
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| 18:24.09 | Meltir | where can i find a db file that has packages marked for installation upgrade downgrade uninstall and such ? |
| 18:24.14 | pngwen | peterS: It's identifying the desktop apps that the debian installer installed as being among those packages |
| 18:24.15 | peterS | pngwen: that's what the auto-installed flag really means. so you can set that flag for anything you don't specifically want (like libraries) and they'll be removed whenever you don't actually need them anymore |
| 18:24.21 | strefli3 | I have been authenticating my laptop via apache/ipaddress on my server to allow only myself access. But my dhcp(not mine) server likes to change my address as it pleases. To solve this I usually update my /etc/hosts (server side) file rather the changing apache. Is there anyway to use my mac address in /etc/hosts? |
| 18:24.55 | peterS | pngwen: that shouldn't happen, unless you used a task-based install (installed the 'desktop' task or something and later removed the 'desktop' task package) |
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| 18:25.02 | pngwen | peterS: ok, so I have to one by one seek out all of those packages, deep inside of apt-get and manually unset that flag in order to keep my software? |
| 18:25.21 | magyar | formorer: you are dead on, chroot problem |
| 18:25.33 | pngwen | I think it would just take less time for me to add the features I want to apt-get :-P |
| 18:25.46 | valdyn | strefli3: isnt username / password enough? |
| 18:25.52 | Meltir | valdyn: any ideas ? |
| 18:25.54 | peterS | pngwen: well, the thing to do is figure out what changed that it now thinks you didn't select those packages. like I said, the likely candidate is that you may have removed a 'task-desktop' style of package, which depended on everything |
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| 18:26.17 | pngwen | peterS: I didn't though. I haven't touched that task |
| 18:26.20 | Vasistha | killown: did you try ndiswrapper? |
| 18:26.27 | valdyn | Meltir: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archivs/x11-common*deb |
| 18:26.37 | peterS | pngwen: then I have to wonder why you have those apps installed in the first place. I mean, what installed them? |
| 18:27.08 | pngwen | peterS: The installation procedure did. A few I manually added using the old and trust apt-get method. |
| 18:27.28 | pngwen | peterS: for instance, aptitude is of the mind that I don't want Java, or open office, or emacs.... |
| 18:27.57 | peterS | pngwen: if you installed emacs manually, using whatever method, it shouldn't have believed they were automatically installed |
| 18:27.59 | Phated | You don't want emacs, anyway ;) |
| 18:28.04 | peterS | tut, Phated |
| 18:28.07 | Phated | :) |
| 18:28.08 | strefli3 | valdyn: That adds another problem(bmpx or xmms cannot authenticate) |
| 18:28.09 | Phated | Hello, peterS. |
| 18:28.13 | peterS | Phated: long time, etc. |
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| 18:28.31 | valdyn | pngwen: use aptititude to install packages it thinks you do not need, dont use apt-get in between aptitude, stick to one |
| 18:28.32 | Phated | peterS: Quite, etc, snogs, etc. |
| 18:28.33 | peterS | pngwen: it may be that aptitude wants to remove emacs and such for other reasons, like inability to resolve dependencies |
| 18:28.34 | pngwen | hehe yeah I do :-P What else would I use "VI"?! |
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| 18:28.50 | Meltir | valdyn: THANK YOU. sorry i got annoying, but this was just freaking me out |
| 18:28.52 | dude | :) |
| 18:28.54 | dude | \:P |
| 18:28.56 | dude | :P |
| 18:28.58 | pngwen | peterS: it calls them "Unused" |
| 18:29.12 | valdyn | Meltir: very easy to fix error, if one just knows the error.. |
| 18:29.14 | HyperNewbie | hey guys |
| 18:29.17 | HyperNewbie | i'l stuck here |
| 18:29.25 | HyperNewbie | i;m stuck here* |
| 18:29.35 | HyperNewbie | this installation of debian worked 10 mins ago |
| 18:29.41 | Vasistha | HyperNewbie: if you've got a question please just ask it |
| 18:29.43 | Meltir | valdyn: i pasted it about 3 times in totall :) |
| 18:29.48 | valdyn | Meltir: ah |
| 18:29.49 | peterS | pngwen: that's odd then, that's the auto-install flag. you can run aptitude and hit the 'm' button next to each package it was intending to remove. honestly, that's what I'd do. I mean, if you can't figure out why it's doing what it's doing |
| 18:29.59 | Vasistha | So does aptitude require and use debfoster ? |
| 18:29.59 | valdyn | Meltir: guess i missed it, get 10 of those / day |
| 18:30.04 | HyperNewbie | ok, i''ve got widescreen and i need to install fglrx to work |
| 18:30.06 | valdyn | Meltir: nearly anyway ) |
| 18:30.13 | pngwen | peterS: it buries all packages so deep in its tree that that could take days to find them all |
| 18:30.22 | Meltir | valdyn: sure. thx for the help - now i know what to do if i encounter it :) |
| 18:30.26 | HyperNewbie | but i installed it and it worked then and somehow it magically turned into "fbdev" |
| 18:30.31 | pngwen | peterS: Can I do it from the commandline? |
| 18:30.37 | peterS | pngwen: well, hit the 'g' button and it will preview all the actions it intends to take. then you can just run down the list |
| 18:30.38 | HyperNewbie | so i tried re-installing fglrx ati drivers |
| 18:30.42 | pngwen | peterS: cause then I coudl script it. |
| 18:30.56 | HyperNewbie | then its still Device "fbdev" |
| 18:31.00 | valdyn | Vasistha: debfoster is a tool that implements functionality above apt-get that aptitude has itself ( at least in parts ) |
| 18:31.06 | HyperNewbie | and i found that ati drivers are getting an error: |
| 18:31.08 | HyperNewbie | /usr/src/linux-2.6.11/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory |
| 18:31.10 | peterS | pngwen: not sure what it can do from the command line. most aptitude features are available to the command line but I am not all that familiar with it |
| 18:31.26 | Vasistha | valdyn: ahha, so aptitude has a different implementation of similar functionality to debfoster. thanks. |
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| 18:31.52 | pngwen | peterS: ok, that lists them all in an eyeball blistering magenta color, but I think I can get through with correcting its madness. |
| 18:31.54 | valdyn | Vasistha: yep, something like that, i dont use either... |
| 18:31.59 | peterS | pngwen: hehe. yeah. |
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| 18:32.18 | HyperNewbie | ATI module generator V 2.0 |
| 18:32.19 | HyperNewbie | ========================== |
| 18:32.19 | HyperNewbie | initializing... |
| 18:32.19 | HyperNewbie | cleaning... |
| 18:32.19 | HyperNewbie | patching 'highmem.h'... |
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| 18:32.43 | peterS | pngwen: you can use 'm' or '+' to override its decision. m means turn off the auto flag, + means explicitly install |
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| 18:32.45 | valdyn | a newbie with a custom kernel, fun |
| 18:32.50 | HyperNewbie | [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to compile kernel module - please consult readme. |
| 18:32.51 | HyperNewbie | oops, soz for the flood |
| 18:32.56 | valdyn | HyperNewbie: why dont you use a debian kernel? |
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| 18:33.18 | pngwen | peterS: Ah, I see a pattern here. All of these are things I installed from testing. |
| 18:33.27 | HyperNewbie | valdyn: i have knoppix |
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| 18:33.29 | thingfish | see |
| 18:33.31 | pngwen | peterS: can aptitude maintain a fixed system? |
| 18:33.38 | HyperNewbie | valdyn: u knw of any way to fix it? |
| 18:33.38 | pngwen | *mixed* even |
| 18:33.57 | valdyn | HyperNewbie: alright, /join #knoppix, this is a Debian, not a Knoppix support channel. Dont tell us knoppix is based on debian, we know. |
| 18:34.01 | peterS | pngwen: should be able. you can certainly install packages from mixed locations using aptitude. I don't see why it would have a problem keeping your system that way |
| 18:34.08 | HyperNewbie | all ri |
| 18:34.26 | pngwen | btw, if I'm getting too annoying with this I'm sorry. I've been using apt-get for so long that I'm distrustful of anything else! |
| 18:34.31 | peterS | pngwen: if you hit 'enter' when looking at a package, at the bottom you get to see all the versions available, and you can select a specific one to install |
| 18:34.46 | Timtow | is there a good guide for installing Samba on Debian Sarge as a domain controller? |
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| 18:36.01 | peterS | Timtow: the install process is just like installing anything else on debian. for configuring as a domain controller, I'd read the o'reilly samba book (available online) |
| 18:36.12 | valdyn | Timtow: google: 'samba pdc debian sarge' |
| 18:36.17 | cbr | mplayer: relocation error: mplayer: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
| 18:36.19 | cbr | what the hell!? |
| 18:36.21 | r121 | Can you hot plug VGA cables like USB and the like, or should the pc be turned off first before (dis)connecting it? |
| 18:36.23 | Timtow | thank y'all much |
| 18:36.35 | SpeedEvil | r121: unplug and plug freely |
| 18:36.42 | SpeedEvil | electrically anyway |
| 18:36.43 | peterS | r121: I always hotplug vga |
| 18:37.02 | iostream | Whichs ports do I need to open in my firewall to be able to lookup hostnames? |
| 18:37.07 | SpeedEvil | You can't hotplug and unplug PCI cards though |
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| 18:37.09 | SpeedEvil | iostream: domain |
| 18:37.09 | valdyn | !info alsa-base sarge |
| 18:37.11 | Vasistha | r121: you might want to turn the monitor off, but not the pc |
| 18:37.12 | SpeedEvil | iostream: 53 |
| 18:37.15 | dpkg | alsa-base: (ALSA driver configuration files), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.0.8-7 (sarge), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 296 kB |
| 18:37.30 | r121 | SpeedEvil, peterS: thanks, that's what I thought, but I didn't want to whack a video card or something |
| 18:37.38 | valdyn | cbr: which debian release are you running? where did you get that mplayer from? |
| 18:37.40 | iostream | SpeedEvil: Yes, I read tcp/udp port 53, but does that mean incoming or outgoing? |
| 18:37.41 | peterS | r121: some chips can even detect when you plug / unplug so they can notify the OS driver, which can probe for monitor characteristics. keith packard is quite close to having that Just Work in xorg for Intel graphics chips |
| 18:37.49 | SpeedEvil | iostream: both really |
| 18:38.02 | Vasistha | what's that mplayer problem that's happening with etch right now? |
| 18:38.05 | Timtow | does Samba play nice with ISPConfig? |
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| 18:38.16 | cbr | valdyn: unstable, and i got it from marillat and it used to work |
| 18:38.17 | SpeedEvil | Also, some OSs will pick 'optimum' modes on boot |
| 18:38.18 | iostream | SpeedEvil: Okay, even if i'm not running a DNS server i need to have port 53 open inbound? |
| 18:38.25 | SpeedEvil | iostream: AIUI - yes |
| 18:38.34 | pngwen | ok, seems to work now. I'll strongly consider using aptitude, so long as I never have to use that ncurses thing again! |
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| 18:38.36 | iostream | SpeedEvil: Okay. thank you :) |
| 18:38.43 | SpeedEvil | iostream: replies can come over seperate connections in some cases I believe. |
| 18:38.49 | Vasistha | !broken.mplayer.may26 |
| 18:38.49 | dpkg | well, broken.mplayer.may26 is go here --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369057 |
| 18:38.59 | valdyn | cbr: run 'apt-get update && apt-get -s dist-upgrade', tell the output |
| 18:39.02 | Vasistha | cbr: ^^^ |
| 18:39.06 | valdyn | cbr: or paste it ( not here ) |
| 18:39.08 | SpeedEvil | r121: if the new monitor can't take the old monitors settings, then it may not work |
| 18:39.21 | iostream | SpeedEvil: Wait, would that be destination port 53 or source port 53? |
| 18:39.27 | valdyn | cbr: run 'grep marillat /etc/apt/sources.list' too |
| 18:39.31 | iostream | SpeedEvil: source, i guess? |
| 18:39.32 | SpeedEvil | iostream: destination |
| 18:39.35 | iostream | SpeedEvil: okay |
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| 18:39.42 | SpeedEvil | on both sides |
| 18:39.54 | cbr | Vasistha: thanks |
| 18:39.55 | pngwen | thank you, everyone that helped me |
| 18:39.56 | cbr | i'll try that |
| 18:40.09 | peterS | pngwen: did the aptitude reeducation campaign succeed? |
| 18:40.13 | valdyn | cbr: nevermind , i didnt know that bug |
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| 18:40.41 | BoBo`BoSs | gmake: *** [install] Error 2 |
| 18:40.41 | BoBo`BoSs | sh-2.05b# |
| 18:40.56 | chops | So this is a new one to me: 'sudo ifup lo' gives me 'SIOCSIFADDR: No such device' and it fails to bring up the loopback device. |
| 18:40.58 | pngwen | peterS: yes, it still listed a bunch of packages as "kept back" but that's because they came from testing and that's where their upgrades are. |
| 18:41.03 | cbr | works now (y) |
| 18:41.04 | r121 | SpeedEvil: actually, I just want to switch one monitor between 2 systems occasionally |
| 18:41.04 | chops | I think that /etc/network/interfaces is correct. |
| 18:41.06 | pngwen | peterS: or at least, that's what it claimed |
| 18:41.11 | valdyn | chops: on your custom kernel? |
| 18:41.12 | peterS | pngwen: *nod* |
| 18:41.22 | SpeedEvil | r121: that will usually work |
| 18:41.32 | SpeedEvil | r121: it won't harm anything. |
| 18:41.32 | chops | Does anyone have a guess why this is happening? My machine isn't working well without loopback :-) |
| 18:41.46 | chops | valdyn: On Debian kernels, out of testing and unstable (2.6.15 and 2.6.16) |
| 18:41.56 | rxed | How do I submit a bug to debian testing? |
| 18:41.59 | pngwen | peterS: I'll give it a try for a while :-) |
| 18:41.59 | SpeedEvil | chops: have you checked that your loopback network card is plugged in :) |
| 18:42.08 | valdyn | chops: 'modprobe lo' iirc, what's the output? |
| 18:42.13 | peterS | chops: I assume lo is mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces as it should be? should have a line 'iface lo inet loopback' |
| 18:42.28 | Vasistha | !report bug |
| 18:42.28 | dpkg | methinks report bug is a good thing to do, as long as you make sure that it actually *is* a bug, and not some oddity in your configuration. Try and get a few people to reproduce the problem, on their boxen, to prove the existance of the bug, independant from your system. |
| 18:42.30 | Vasistha | rxed: ^^^ |
| 18:42.39 | chops | SpeedEvil: Those bastards told me it was built into the motherboard! ;-) |
| 18:42.41 | peterS | Vasistha: that doesn't answer his question |
| 18:42.44 | Vasistha | hmmm, that's not quite a detailed answer |
| 18:42.46 | chops | valdyn: "FATAL: Module lo not found." |
| 18:42.58 | peterS | yeah, it's not a module |
| 18:43.01 | SpeedEvil | hang on isn't lo built into the networking stack? |
| 18:43.18 | chops | peterS: Yep, I've got "auto lo eth0" and "iface lo inet loopback" |
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| 18:43.23 | peterS | TCP/IP and the loopback interface should be built into the kernel |
| 18:43.25 | rxed | How do I submit a bug to debian testing? |
| 18:43.38 | peterS | rxed: the 'reportbug' command |
| 18:43.41 | jetscreamer | rep9ortbug |
| 18:43.46 | rxed | peterS: ty |
| 18:43.49 | jetscreamer | reborkbug |
| 18:43.52 | Vasistha | rxed: or on the web you can go to bugs.debian.org |
| 18:43.57 | jetscreamer | rem: borkbug |
| 18:44.01 | jetscreamer | err |
| 18:44.27 | peterS | chops: sound like your kernel is mildly broken at the moment |
| 18:44.33 | chops | The full output of 'sudo ifup lo' is "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device", "lo: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device" (twice), and "Failed to bring up lo." |
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| 18:46.09 | chops | peterS: These are two different Debian kernels... hm; I did blindly run 'sudo make install' from the ivtv driver, but I can't see that breaking the non-modular part of networking... I'll try an unmolested kernel just to be sure. |
| 18:46.26 | chops | (ivtv is an out-of-tree video4linux device) |
| 18:46.34 | peterS | chops: yeah that's a strange problem. who knows. |
| 18:47.09 | `DamN` | what is inside interfaces file ? |
| 18:47.17 | peterS | `DamN`: man 5 interfaces |
| 18:47.23 | `DamN` | you have interface defined there ? |
| 18:47.36 | peterS | he has the loopback interface defined, he already said |
| 18:47.53 | `DamN` | peterS: didn't read lines before .. sorry |
| 18:47.58 | chops | Ooh, I also have udev downgraded to 0.87 something. I'll try upgrading that too. |
| 18:48.11 | chops | (See how helpful #debian can be? :-) |
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| 18:48.34 | `DamN` | udev .. our today's problem ;-) we wanted to get wireless pci card working , without success thanks to udev |
| 18:48.48 | peterS | chops: indeed, I completely forgot to note that udev can be most unhelpful in network interface management (: |
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| 18:49.26 | Blackhold | hello... |
| 18:49.34 | beardy | `DamN`: Why the ``?, quite annoying. |
| 18:49.35 | chops | peterS: Well, it's got its little ways, certainly... but surely even udev can't break 'sudo ifup lo', can it? |
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| 18:49.43 | comlaci | hello. can anyone help me installing debian? |
| 18:49.45 | peterS | chops: it can rename interfaces these days |
| 18:49.52 | beardy | !ig comlaci |
| 18:49.57 | beardy | !ig |
| 18:49.57 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 18:49.57 | peterS | chops: does 'ifconfig -a' list a loopback interface under any name? |
| 18:50.00 | beardy | comlaci: ^^¨ |
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| 18:50.17 | BoBo`BoSs | beardy |
| 18:50.18 | BoBo`BoSs | cc: /tcl8.3.4/unix: No such file or directory |
| 18:50.19 | BoBo`BoSs | make: *** [tclsh] Error 1 |
| 18:50.19 | BoBo`BoSs | ? |
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| 18:50.27 | chops | peterS: Heh. Yes, thank you. |
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| 18:50.34 | chops | "?_ Link encap:Local Loopback" |
| 18:50.36 | Blackhold | I've got a packard bell easynote, the wireless activates via a function key, but my debian don't know what are these function keys, I need to say to debian that when you push function key + F4 the wireless has to go up... |
| 18:50.41 | chops | Now _that's_ hardware detection for you. |
| 18:50.49 | peterS | chops: hahaha |
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| 18:51.23 | peterS | poor chops, defeated by udev |
| 18:51.54 | deadcat | peterS: i had that problem 2 days agot.. had to upgrade to 2.6.16.18 (= i thought my usb ports were fried |
| 18:52.02 | comlaci | what is !ig ? |
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| 18:52.18 | chops | peterS: It was my fault -- I knew downgrading udev was just asking for trouble. I suspected the new version was breaking stuff, though (which it looks like it wasn't)... |
| 18:52.18 | comlaci | sorry :)u |
| 18:52.24 | peterS | comlaci: it asks dpkg the bot to tell us about the installation guide |
| 18:52.33 | peterS | chops: heh |
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| 18:52.45 | Nicky | hi modprobe snd-maestro3;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss returns with errors why ? |
| 18:53.01 | peterS | Nicky: my car makes a funny noise, why? |
| 18:53.16 | H2OyJaBoN | hello how to mount a pendrive usb in debian? |
| 18:53.27 | beardy | comlaci: I told dpkg to tell us about The Installation Guide, and especially tell you, read it. Ask if you have any specific problem when installing. |
| 18:53.31 | Nicky | make: *** [install-modules] Error 1 |
| 18:53.31 | Nicky | debian:/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a# chmod a+rw /dev/dsp /dev/mixer /dev/sequencer /dev/midi |
| 18:53.31 | Nicky | debian:/usr/src/alsa/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a# modprobe snd-maestro3;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss |
| 18:53.32 | Nicky | WARNING: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/sound/core/oss/snd-mixer-oss.ko': No such file or directory |
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| 18:53.49 | chops | H2OyJaBoN: It should just be 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/point/of/your/choosing'... do you get messages when you plug it in? |
| 18:54.15 | phaedrus_ | i hate wine |
| 18:54.17 | phaedrus_ | hehe |
| 18:54.23 | phaedrus_ | until i get it running |
| 18:54.24 | Timtow | what about vodka? |
| 18:54.34 | Timtow | jim bean? |
| 18:54.38 | peterS | beam |
| 18:55.16 | beardy | That's bourbon, isn't it? |
| 18:55.25 | H2OyJaBoN | yes, i did that, but i see msg "is not a valid block device" |
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| 18:55.49 | peterS | H2OyJaBoN: run 'cat /proc/partitions' to see if a similar device exists which seems to be your pen drive |
| 18:55.54 | SpeedEvil | H2OyJaBoN: scsi_info /dev/sda |
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| 18:57.47 | _rene_ | 5/gw 26 |
| 18:57.51 | _rene_ | hrmpf |
| 18:57.54 | Nicky | hell-o? |
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| 19:00.18 | rxed | Is there a way to get more output from a crashing application, like some sort of a debug log or something? All i get now is 'segemntation error' and app quits. |
| 19:00.49 | chops | rxed: You can run it under gdb to get more information |
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| 19:01.05 | chops | rxed: gdb yourappname |
| 19:01.08 | chops | rxed: Then 'run' |
| 19:01.16 | rxed | chops: ty |
| 19:01.39 | rxed | chops: oh, this is soo cool |
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| 19:02.10 | pakal | Hi! is my first time with a wireless network, what is the best security method: WPA-PSK or RADIUS ?? |
| 19:02.32 | SpeedEvil | radius is an authentication method AIUI |
| 19:02.43 | SpeedEvil | wpa-psk is pre-shared-key |
| 19:02.48 | SpeedEvil | which is actually better |
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| 19:03.04 | SpeedEvil | use a nice long key |
| 19:03.06 | shogunx | pakal i like mac based filtering myself, via hostapd |
| 19:03.08 | SpeedEvil | like lkdskjdkjsfldksjfoirjgfroijgnvbvrb984i |
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| 19:03.19 | SpeedEvil | shogunx: which doens't actaully add any security |
| 19:03.31 | pakal | I read WEB is too weak |
| 19:03.33 | SpeedEvil | shogunx: against a moderately skilled opponent |
| 19:03.38 | SpeedEvil | pakal: WEP is weak |
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| 19:03.53 | SpeedEvil | WEP is those locks you have on kids toyboxes |
| 19:03.55 | sid | They're all weak and shitty. |
| 19:04.04 | SpeedEvil | It's a deterrant, not a lock |
| 19:04.09 | shogunx | SpeedEvil one would have to take down an allowed host, and spoof its mac. |
| 19:04.23 | SpeedEvil | shogunx: or wait for the host to go offline |
| 19:04.30 | SpeedEvil | spoofing the mac is trivial |
| 19:04.32 | sid | You can't encrypt your data to hard on a wireless router...wireless routers are very limited when it comes to speed. If you encrypt your data too well...this will increase the data size and create a bigger load on the router. |
| 19:04.36 | shogunx | machanger, i know. |
| 19:04.48 | sid | So the router companies try to encrypt the data _just enough_ so it doesn't increase the data size too much. |
| 19:04.51 | SpeedEvil | sid: wpa is practically unbreakable at the moment - used with a long key |
| 19:04.57 | shogunx | ok. ipsec then. beat that. |
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| 19:05.26 | r3tex | SpeedEvil, =/ what are you talking about... |
| 19:05.27 | rxed | How can i follow up on a bug once I email it to debian-bugs-dist? |
| 19:05.41 | pakal | need I some encrypt kernel module to use WPA? |
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| 19:06.08 | SpeedEvil | r3tex: WPA is the 'new' version of WEP - which was "wired equivalency protocol", which is a part of the wifi standard |
| 19:06.22 | SpeedEvil | r3tex: and turned out not to be secure at all |
| 19:06.26 | SpeedEvil | pakal: no, genereally not |
| 19:06.34 | SpeedEvil | pakal: it's included in the device firmware |
| 19:06.45 | r3tex | SpeedEvil, i know what WPA is, i mean that you said it was unbreakable at the moment.. |
| 19:07.04 | SpeedEvil | r3tex: I mean, in comparison to WEP, there are no 'good' attacks against it |
| 19:07.13 | SpeedEvil | In other words, faster than brute force |
| 19:07.13 | spoof | damn again spoof :/ |
| 19:07.23 | r3tex | ok |
| 19:07.28 | SpeedEvil | which is not practical with the longish keylength |
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| 19:07.35 | rxed | pakal: yes, of course. |
| 19:07.40 | Vasistha | pakal: wpasupplicant |
| 19:07.54 | shogunx | SpeedEvil unless you have a cluster to crack it with... |
| 19:07.59 | SpeedEvil | WEP thogh having a relatively short key length, can be cracked much, much quicker than that would suggest as it's got fundamental weaknesses |
| 19:08.02 | SpeedEvil | shogunx: no |
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| 19:08.18 | Vasistha | shogunx: doesn't that still depend on communication bandwidth with the access point? |
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| 19:08.26 | SpeedEvil | shogunx: WPA - even with a cluster - requires more computer power than will be readily available to a human attacker |
| 19:08.38 | SpeedEvil | with a very long random passphrase |
| 19:08.42 | shogunx | Vasistha, small packets, and lots of them. |
| 19:08.50 | shogunx | SpeedEvil need i define cluster? |
| 19:09.07 | SpeedEvil | shogunx: at the moment, with the current attacks known for WPA, all the computers in the world working together for a year can't crack it |
| 19:09.21 | Vasistha | shogunx: oh yeah, of course ... I temporarily spaced out on what "brute force attack" means in that context |
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| 19:09.37 | SpeedEvil | by 'human' I was meaning 'it won't resist aliens who convert mars into one nanotech computer' |
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| 19:09.48 | shogunx | hehe |
| 19:09.59 | Vasistha | hehheh |
| 19:10.21 | shogunx | Like i said, if yu are that paraniod, or have hosts that are unstable enough to go down occasionally, just use ipsec tunnels. |
| 19:10.25 | SpeedEvil | As some encryptions can. - one time pad for example. |
| 19:10.27 | Vasistha | ...and do you really think aliens who convert mars into one nanotech computer would be interested in your irc conversation? |
| 19:10.32 | atrus | SpeedEvil: you read kurzweil? |
| 19:10.36 | shogunx | for most people, turning dhcp off will keep them out;) |
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| 19:10.48 | SpeedEvil | atrus: I have some. |
| 19:10.51 | r3tex | SpeedEvil, usually it's not the keys or the encryptions that are the weak point in a transmisison |
| 19:10.54 | Vasistha | heck, for most people, using wep will keep them out -- of their own network hehe |
| 19:10.58 | r3tex | wow that was weird spelling |
| 19:11.04 | SpeedEvil | r3tex: yeah - rubber hose. |
| 19:11.11 | shogunx | Vasistha, hehe |
| 19:11.17 | r3tex | tss |
| 19:11.33 | jhenn | can someone help me with this http://channels.debian.net/paste/2668 |
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| 19:11.53 | Gnurdux | ok so apparently bzflag 2.0.8 cant be put in testing becasue it hasn't been buiult on hppa, and it hasnt because it gives an error, which is /home2/buildd/.ccache (No such file or directory) |
| 19:12.00 | atrus | SpeedEvil: i just finished "the singularity is near" recently. talks about the theoretical computing power of the universe if all the matter we can get at is exploited :) |
| 19:12.05 | Vasistha | jhenn: thanks for pasting! additionally, it's nice to let us know the nature of the problem in a short sentence ;-) |
| 19:12.13 | Gnurdux | but in oother places, it refers to /build/buildd |
| 19:12.20 | Gnurdux | could that have to do with the problem? |
| 19:12.26 | Vasistha | jhenn: you are trying to get wireless networking working? |
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| 19:12.33 | jhenn | Vasistha: module-assistant fails trying to build rt2500 modules |
| 19:12.37 | shogunx | Gnurdux, seems like that could be fixed with a quick grep. |
| 19:12.45 | teledyn_ | where are the post and pre inst/removal scripts located again? |
| 19:12.46 | jhenn | Vasistha: yes |
| 19:12.50 | Gnurdux | shogunx, or sed |
| 19:12.58 | jhenn | Vasistha: can you help with this? |
| 19:12.58 | shogunx | Gnurdux, even better. |
| 19:13.02 | Gnurdux | :P |
| 19:13.17 | Gnurdux | http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=bzflag&ver=2.0.8.20060515&arch=hppa&stamp=1147716810&file=log&as=raw thats the link they gave me, with the error in it |
| 19:13.20 | Vasistha | jhenn: hrm, I dunno. I struggled for three days to get my wireless working! |
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| 19:13.43 | teledyn_ | also, when submitting a bug, isn't there a "Severity" field? But I can't remember its name |
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| 19:13.58 | jhenn | Vasistha: well at this point the fact simply is that the drivers aren't installed |
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| 19:14.30 | jhenn | Vasistha: i would like to get the drivers installed using module-assistan |
| 19:15.04 | cheal | teledyn_: try $ locate postinst |
| 19:15.14 | Vasistha | jhenn: y-yeah... I'm definitely not the right person to help you track down compilation errors ;-) |
| 19:15.17 | cheal | teledyn_: yes, Severity |
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| 19:15.34 | jhenn | Vasistha: okay. thanks anway. |
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| 19:15.59 | nekoflux | question, does anyone know a good tutorial for learning package management on debian? |
| 19:16.00 | teledyn_ | ah, /var/lib/dpkg/info which is misleading... |
| 19:16.04 | nekoflux | im kind of a newbi |
| 19:16.06 | nekoflux | e |
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| 19:16.12 | phaedrus_ | is it hard to uninstall xfree86 and install x11? |
| 19:16.17 | cheal | nekoflux: perhaps the APT HOWTO |
| 19:16.26 | nekoflux | cheal: link me |
| 19:16.28 | phaedrus_ | can i do it through synaptic? |
| 19:16.39 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: xfree86 IS x11 |
| 19:16.39 | nekoflux | i dont know where the apt howto is |
| 19:16.43 | phaedrus_ | oh |
| 19:16.46 | cheal | !tell nekoflux about apt howto |
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| 19:17.00 | phaedrus_ | i get a message i need x11-common |
| 19:17.09 | Gnurdux | does anyone know about the debian build process? should a dir called /home2/buildd be involved? |
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| 19:17.19 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: well, are you running X.org? better... are you running sarge, etch, or sid? |
| 19:17.20 | phaedrus_ | and its not in apt |
| 19:17.29 | phaedrus_ | im running sarge |
| 19:17.43 | phaedrus_ | uh and i use xfree86 |
| 19:17.48 | bonez39 | is there any channel devoted specifically to small business? how do I list all channels with 'debian' in their name? |
| 19:17.55 | nekoflux | cheal: what is dselect? |
| 19:18.01 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: could it be you are trying to install a package that requires X.org ? |
| 19:18.01 | us0r | ok, so i just recompiled my kernel from the current 2.6 source that is available as an apt package, and it tells me it cannot open my root device (an ext2 partition) and kernel panics on boot. I have all filesystems present on my hard drive compiled into the kernel, including cramfs. any inital guesses as to how to fix this? |
| 19:18.06 | phaedrus_ | yeah |
| 19:18.11 | bonez39 | nekoflux, be wary of dselect....... |
| 19:18.16 | phaedrus_ | mabye, im trying to install wine |
| 19:18.28 | teledyn_ | cheal: do you know, if you try to include "Severity" in a manual email submission, if it will accept it? it seems I remember it not getting accepted |
| 19:18.29 | phaedrus_ | a newer version than in the apt-get |
| 19:18.41 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: sarge uses the older XFree86, wheras etch and sid use the newer X.org |
| 19:18.47 | us0r | i followed the install detailed at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html , section 7.1.1 to the letter |
| 19:18.49 | jhenn | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2668 <-- can someone help me with this? |
| 19:18.52 | shogunx | what do you need bonez39? |
| 19:18.59 | phaedrus_ | what should i do to upgrade? |
| 19:19.03 | phaedrus_ | or change? |
| 19:19.05 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: ...and it looks like the newer wine requires X.org ... so you'll have to use the older wine, or move to etch |
| 19:19.18 | Gnurdux | sounds like a wrong GCC version jhenn |
| 19:19.24 | Gnurdux | you on gcc 4.x? |
| 19:19.34 | jhenn | Gnurdux: no is that in backports? |
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| 19:19.55 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: another possible solution might be to use CodeWeavers, which is not free, its about $60 US ... they might have a version that will work on sarge |
| 19:19.57 | bonez39 | shogunx, well, I'd like to find others who run small businesses..and run linux/debian and see what various programs they use.....how the apply the great linux tools available... |
| 19:20.02 | cheal | !tell nekoflux about dselect |
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| 19:20.04 | Gnurdux | jhenn, what GCC are you on? |
| 19:20.06 | bonez39 | shogunx, does that make sense? |
| 19:20.13 | jhenn | Gnurdux: how do I tell? |
| 19:20.13 | phaedrus_ | yeah.. |
| 19:20.24 | Gnurdux | type gcc --version |
| 19:20.32 | shogunx | bonez39 i do so. and it does. |
| 19:20.37 | phaedrus_ | i vowed that even when i have cash i was not going to buy software...how to move to etch? |
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| 19:20.56 | Gnurdux | jhenn: gcc --version |
| 19:21.00 | jhenn | Gnurdux: 3.3.5 |
| 19:21.01 | nekoflux | so apt is a front end for dselect? |
| 19:21.09 | us0r | other way around |
| 19:21.10 | Gnurdux | maybe 2.0.8 doesn't build on that |
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| 19:21.15 | Gnurdux | but im pretty sure it does |
| 19:21.20 | Gnurdux | i know it doesnt build on 4.x |
| 19:21.22 | bonez39 | shogunx, for example..I'd like to find a page or two and read about how someone implements LDAP and IMAP for their email/directory services/ and how they use that with other proceesses |
| 19:21.25 | bonez39 | processes |
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| 19:21.43 | bonez39 | shogunx, do you run a small business? Mine is a Chiropractic office. |
| 19:21.46 | us0r | can anyone help me with my kernel panic? |
| 19:21.48 | jhenn_ | Gnurdux: sorry that screen died |
| 19:21.54 | cheal | teledyn_: if you do it right, yes. debbugs can't know whether you used reportbug or not |
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| 19:22.01 | jhenn_ | Gnurdux: been having these weird problems where gnu screen dies and freezes |
| 19:22.05 | Gnurdux | whatever jhenn_ i doubt i can help |
| 19:22.06 | jhenn_ | Gnurdux: on stable too |
| 19:22.11 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: well, first of all, you want to ask yourself if you -really- need that newer version of wine. second, study up and make sure you -really- want to move to etch... |
| 19:22.12 | shogunx | bonez39 i do, but its a family business, and we do not use imap. |
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| 19:22.14 | jhenn_ | Gnurdux: thanks anyway |
| 19:22.28 | phaedrus_ | ok... |
| 19:22.30 | phaedrus_ | thank you.. |
| 19:22.32 | Vasistha | bonez39: huh, I have a good friend who is a chiropractor, and has been running linux for years |
| 19:22.38 | jhenn_ | Gnurdux: you mean the wireless issue or you can't help the screen freezing, or both? |
| 19:22.39 | phaedrus_ | im trying to get my ipod shuffle to work... |
| 19:22.47 | rxed | How can I follow up on a bug that I submitted trough email? |
| 19:22.49 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: have you tried gtkpod ? |
| 19:22.54 | bonez39 | Vasistha, I'd love to get in touch with your friend....my email is scott@fyrenice.com |
| 19:22.59 | phaedrus_ | i need a program that installs the directories and files needed to the ipod itself |
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| 19:23.07 | phaedrus_ | because it was all erased |
| 19:23.15 | phaedrus_ | and gtkpod does not seem to do that |
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| 19:23.40 | Vasistha | bonez39: I'd recommend not posting my email to irc ;-) you may have just attracted yourself a good bit of spam... but he's a real computer expert, he's written some of his own software... |
| 19:23.46 | phaedrus_ | so i was going to use itunessetup in wine |
| 19:23.58 | bonez39 | oops.... |
| 19:23.59 | cheal | rxed: reportbug |
| 19:24.16 | Vasistha | bonez39: I know that he uses codeweavers... which I just mentioned... commercial software, $60, their work eventually goes into wine. |
| 19:24.20 | rxed | cheal: that's not my question. |
| 19:24.26 | nekoflux | i'm trying to install php5 on debian |
| 19:24.26 | bonez39 | Vasistha, how does one exchange email info .. to follow up a contact then, without drawing the spammers? |
| 19:24.31 | nekoflux | but i cant find the package |
| 19:24.39 | nekoflux | i typed apt-cache search php |
| 19:24.48 | nekoflux | and i see packages for php4 and php3 but not 5 |
| 19:24.49 | Vasistha | phaedrus_: hmmm, that sounds like a one-off kind of thing, have you considered just plugging it into a buddy's windows/mac box to do the initial setup? |
| 19:24.54 | bonez39 | Vasistha, I need to run, but will follow up later with you |
| 19:24.57 | Vasistha | bonez39: via PM after asking... |
| 19:25.03 | cheal | rxed: what's your question then? |
| 19:25.12 | rxed | How can I follow up on a bug that I submitted trough email? |
| 19:25.17 | Vasistha | bonez39: I'll see if he'd be willing to talk to you, he's pretty busy :P |
| 19:25.50 | cheal | rxed: that's the same question you just asked. did you try what I suggested? |
| 19:26.29 | Vasistha | rxed: go to bugs.debian.org and search for it |
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| 19:28.33 | rxed | Vasistha: that's a bad URL. The correct URL is debian.org/Bugs |
| 19:28.44 | Vasistha | rxed: ahha, glad you found it... |
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| 19:30.04 | rxed | how long does it take for a bug to get submitted? I emailed it to submit@bugs.debian.org 20 min ago. |
| 19:30.18 | skybox | hey guys, I have a question, do any one of you know an application (GUI) That tells me evrything I need to know about my burner? fimrware, RPC, etc? |
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| 19:30.34 | Vasistha | rxed: it could take a while, maybe the database is updated every 2-4 hours, why don't you just check back tomorrow? |
| 19:30.58 | Vasistha | skybox: well if you're running kde, kinfocenter can tell you quite a bit |
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| 19:31.12 | skybox | i'm on kde, hold on |
| 19:31.25 | etsme | !seen amphi |
| 19:31.26 | dpkg | amphi <n=amphi@unaffiliated/amphi> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3d 15h 12m 57s ago, saying: 'coolzone: torsmo?'. |
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| 19:31.57 | rxed | Vasistha: I just got an email from a package maintainer. Awesome. |
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| 19:31.57 | laurens_ | hi |
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| 19:32.07 | Dan39 | hey guys |
| 19:32.18 | Dan39 | any1 here? |
| 19:32.27 | Vasistha | rxed: good things happen to those who wait ;-) |
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| 19:32.42 | skybox | Vasistha, that app tells me my system specs, but I need to know the exact bitsettings/fw/rpc on my burner |
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| 19:33.12 | Gnurdux | jhenn_, both |
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| 19:33.19 | Dan39 | im setting up debian, and i did alt+f2 so that i could install/config pppoeconf, how do i get back to the set-up screen? |
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| 19:33.52 | cheal | Dan39: Ctrl+Alt+F1 |
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| 19:33.56 | Dan39 | k thnx |
| 19:34.00 | Vasistha | skybox: oh, sorry, didn't quite digest your first question. Querying firmware might be a rather device-specific task |
| 19:34.00 | cheal | well actually just Alt+F1 |
| 19:34.01 | beetlepun_ | is there a lm_sensor heat test -- I think this system is freezing from cpu heat |
| 19:34.07 | cheal | too use to getting out of X |
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| 19:34.57 | Vasistha | beetlepun_: if you are running acpi then yes. However, I'd advise you run memtest |
| 19:35.05 | cheal | beetlepun_: you're asking whether lm_sensors can report temperatures? |
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| 19:35.34 | covux | is there a how to for compiling latest alsa drivers for debian? thanks for any hints |
| 19:35.37 | beetlepun_ | cheal, i'd like to know if they're working properly, is there a tool for this? |
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| 19:36.05 | darklee | I want a program that works with machines plotter somebody knows? |
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| 19:36.09 | Vasistha | covux: which debian? sarge, etch, sid? any particular reason you want to compile yourself? |
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| 19:36.30 | Vasistha | heh I bet that's killown |
| 19:36.43 | covux | Vasistha: sid, its for a samsung laptop X60 which is maybe only supported by latest drivers |
| 19:36.46 | cheal | beetlepun_: sorry...if *what* are working properly? |
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| 19:37.00 | skybox | Vasistha, np bud, I'll just have to check out the proc directory more I guess |
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| 19:38.04 | Vasistha | skybox: yeah... dunno if that'll help you. I would imagine that getting the firmware version is something that you would have to query the device for, and that query might be different for different devices, so you might not find it in /proc ... have you googled around much for your specific device? |
| 19:39.08 | skybox | Vasistha, well sort of, I just need to know the exact firmware and bitsettings, in windows (yeah it's sad when the devds doesnt provide a source) theres a gui app which tells you the EXACT information you need to know about your burner |
| 19:39.22 | jhenn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:40.27 | cheal | jhenn: tell us what you're trying to do |
| 19:40.48 | jhenn | cheal: im trying to use module-assistant to get the modules installed for my ralink 2500 wireless card |
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| 19:41.24 | cheal | jhenn: OK...and which command triggers what's in your paste? |
| 19:41.45 | jhenn | cheal: i don't know i just hit "build" in modules-assistant |
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| 19:42.35 | cheal | jhenn: how did you launch module-assistant? |
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| 19:43.35 | jhenn | cheal: module-assitant ??? that is how i launched it |
| 19:43.37 | cheal | mc__: ask #debian-offtopic |
| 19:43.41 | nekoflux | mc__: i don't think they exist |
| 19:43.55 | mc__ | nekoflux, :( |
| 19:44.10 | Vasistha | mc__: check your local LUG |
| 19:44.10 | nekoflux | apt-cache search girl turns up nothing :( |
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| 19:44.32 | mc__ | Vasistha, there are only men |
| 19:44.35 | Covener | skybox: tried hdparm -I ? |
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| 19:44.48 | jhenn | cheal any ideas? |
| 19:44.52 | cheal | jhenn: and when you chose Select, rt2500 was a choice? |
| 19:44.58 | jhenn | cheal: yes |
| 19:44.59 | mc__ | but linux weeks are in austria,even nere my town,maybe ill find some there |
| 19:45.01 | nekoflux | has anyone tried installing php5? |
| 19:45.07 | nekoflux | i cant find the packages for it |
| 19:45.09 | cheal | jhenn: which release do you use? |
| 19:45.14 | jhenn | cheal: of? |
| 19:45.20 | nekoflux | i only see packages for php3 and 4 |
| 19:45.23 | Vasistha | mc__: well... yeah, not an uncommon realization in the geek world. I've been aware of only a couple girls in this channel |
| 19:45.26 | cheal | jhenn: Debian |
| 19:45.34 | jhenn | cheal: sarge with backports |
| 19:45.36 | cheal | nekoflux: yes |
| 19:45.47 | mattt | debian chicks own |
| 19:46.10 | mattt | unless they're midgets ... cuz no midgets own. |
| 19:46.40 | mc__ | Vasistha, im thinking of coding an partnership site ,especially for geeks,where you could use a geek code to generate your profile |
| 19:47.09 | mc__ | and search for girls which are using a specific os or coding a specific language,how sounds that to you? |
| 19:47.32 | Vasistha | mc__: heh, have fun ;-) I think it will be even more strongly imbalanced than most dating sites in terms of far more guys than girls |
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| 19:48.00 | cheal | jhenn: although that won't help with your question, are you aware that you should upgrade to 2.6.8-3? |
| 19:48.01 | mc__ | Vasistha, of course |
| 19:48.14 | jhenn | cheal: no why is that? |
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| 19:48.32 | cheal | jhenn: it fixes several vulnerabilities in 2.6.8-2 |
| 19:48.36 | Vasistha | mc__: you know, sometimes they say opposites attract, maybe you shouldn't even be looking for a geek girl at all... |
| 19:48.38 | etsme | !fixres |
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| 19:49.06 | mc__ | Vasistha, i dont know about what to talk with non-geek people |
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| 19:49.51 | tzafrir_laptop | The machine that holds the FQ wiki has dis space problems... |
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| 19:50.09 | Vasistha | mc__: heh, well... can't help you there. last girl I dated was inept with computers. I think the last advice I gave her was, "you can't put a forward slash in file names" |
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| 19:50.22 | mc__ | Vasistha, lol |
| 19:50.24 | mattt | mc: you don't watch movies, read books, watch the news, play sports, watch sports, watch tv, like art, like music? |
| 19:50.42 | jhenn | cheal: isn't that what security updates are for? |
| 19:50.43 | edison | Help, how to install emule with debian ? |
| 19:51.01 | mc__ | matte:i sometimes read o'reilly books |
| 19:51.06 | mc__ | edison, apt-get install amule |
| 19:51.14 | edison | ok thank |
| 19:51.16 | mattt | mc: scary |
| 19:51.17 | cheal | jhenn: hum, I'm not sure what you mean...security updates fix vulnerabilities, yes |
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| 19:51.31 | cheal | jhenn: about your problem, did you try Google? |
| 19:51.38 | tzafrir_laptop | edison, next time: apt-cache search emule |
| 19:51.57 | jhenn | cheal: no i did not |
| 19:52.11 | edison | tzafrir_laptop, i get no result ? |
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| 19:52.24 | cheal | jhenn: I suggest either Google or contacting the backport responsible |
| 19:52.40 | tzafrir_laptop | edison, strange. I saw amule there... |
| 19:52.52 | edison | mc__, E: Couldn't find package amule |
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| 19:53.45 | mc__ | edison, strange |
| 19:53.55 | edison | tzafrir_laptop, in my source.list i have : deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main |
| 19:54.04 | edison | and the kernel.mirror |
| 19:54.13 | edison | does i need others sources ? |
| 19:54.56 | FalscherHase | hi. i installed libbatik-java to convert svg files to pdfs on the command line. now i have to list all the needed jars (avalon, commons, ...) with -classpath. what is the right way to have all system wide installed jars in the classpath? |
| 19:54.57 | edison | mc__, can you show me your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 19:55.46 | mc__ | edison, ill paste it in #flood |
| 19:56.01 | Nicky | i've a problem with nerolinux:: text is as small as unreadable |
| 19:56.07 | edison | ok 2 min |
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| 19:56.28 | edison | mc__, ok thank ! |
| 19:56.35 | mc__ | edison, np |
| 19:56.49 | edison | mc__, ok that because you use sid |
| 19:57.08 | edison | i use woody |
| 19:57.08 | mc__ | edison, it is at least in testing too |
| 19:57.17 | mc__ | edison, sure u use woody? |
| 19:57.18 | atrus | trying to compile lirc modules package. first in the series of errors from make-kpkg is: "error: ../drivers/media/video/bttv.h: No such file or directory". the file is present in the 2.6.17-pre5 tree. suggestions? |
| 19:57.26 | mc__ | edison, not sarge? |
| 19:57.39 | iswm | Can anyone tell me how to fix "/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_channels_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference" |
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| 19:58.12 | edison | mc__, i'm not shure, how can i know that ? |
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| 19:58.51 | mc__ | edison, sry dunno |
| 19:58.52 | formorer | you have sarge |
| 19:59.04 | formorer | as long as there is stable in your sources list |
| 19:59.14 | Nicky | how i can increase font size of nero linux ? |
| 19:59.20 | cheal | iswm: what's that? |
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| 19:59.37 | formorer | and btw sarge has no non-us |
| 20:00.06 | cheal | Nicky: Debian doesn't distribute nero linux. ask the distributor |
| 20:00.12 | edison | Help, how can i know witch version of debian i run like redhat /etc/redhat-version |
| 20:00.13 | iswm | cheal, when I run xmms or xmms2. Probably other things that use alsa also. |
| 20:00.24 | formorer | edison: its as I said |
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| 20:00.38 | formorer | edison: if you have stable in you sources list you have sarge |
| 20:00.39 | Nicky | let's say how do i increase font size of a general GTK based application ? |
| 20:00.56 | formorer | Nicky: do you have installed the transcoded fonts? |
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| 20:01.07 | Nicky | n |
| 20:01.08 | Nicky | no |
| 20:01.14 | formorer | do that |
| 20:01.16 | edison | forcemaster, ok but they don't have other way to know it ? |
| 20:01.18 | Nicky | how ? |
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| 20:01.28 | formorer | Nicky: use your brain |
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| 20:01.49 | killown | i want to gain cloack how make it? |
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| 20:02.09 | formorer | edison: no, debian packaging system comes with great flexibility, but that includes the problem not entirely being able to track down a version |
| 20:02.18 | killown | !cloack |
| 20:02.45 | edison | Does amule exist with sarge ? |
| 20:03.07 | formorer | edison: packages.debian.org helps |
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| 20:03.30 | edison | forcemaster, ok thank |
| 20:03.39 | Billionaire | stew, I recompiled new kernel (2.6.16.18) |
| 20:03.55 | tzafrir_laptop | why would you need nero-linux when you can use k3b or a number of other similar programs that come with your distr? |
| 20:04.09 | tzafrir_laptop | edison, no, I don't see it |
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| 20:04.17 | cheal | iswm: hm, which release do you use? |
| 20:04.18 | Billionaire | stew, now I try to configure udev |
| 20:04.28 | iswm | cheal, unstable |
| 20:04.45 | cheal | iswm: did you check the BTS? |
| 20:05.06 | tzafrir_laptop | edison, it has been backported in backports.org |
| 20:05.11 | iswm | cheal, I'm new to this debian thing, so I'm assuming I just don't have alsa set up correctly or something. I have no idea what BTS is. |
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| 20:05.23 | cheal | !tell iswm bts |
| 20:05.26 | cheal | !tell iswm about bts |
| 20:05.29 | magyar | how can i read the mail from a Maildir from console? |
| 20:05.36 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm trying to build kernel 2.6.10 on current Etch |
| 20:05.47 | tzafrir_laptop | magyar, mutt |
| 20:06.00 | Nicky | how do i decompress .gz files from terminal ? |
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| 20:06.16 | cheal | iswm: you should start by reinstalling a Debian appropriate for you. try stable or testing |
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| 20:06.23 | tzafrir_laptop | Nicky, changes are those are .tar.gz , right? |
| 20:06.23 | formorer | magyar: with mutt |
| 20:06.24 | superlinux | do you know a linux compatible smart serial link network card? please mention a card that needs no driver installations, just plug and run |
| 20:06.24 | cheal | uh, a Debian release |
| 20:06.29 | Nicky | yes |
| 20:06.39 | killown | i want to gain cloack for my nick how make it? |
| 20:06.50 | sn00p | How do you instlal flashplugin for mozilla in debian? |
| 20:06.57 | iswm | cheal, no need really. I'm not new to linux, just debian. I just need to get familiar with it. |
| 20:07.00 | magyar | tzafrir_laptop: formorer: thank you |
| 20:07.04 | tzafrir_laptop | Nicky, tar xzf file.tar.gz |
| 20:07.05 | cheal | !tell sn00p about flash |
| 20:07.18 | magyar | btw formorer, you were right about chroot :) |
| 20:07.26 | formorer | magyar: sure |
| 20:07.33 | Nicky | 10x |
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| 20:07.50 | formorer | magyar: I have to earn money with postfix and amavis ;) |
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| 20:07.52 | sn00p | cheal: What do I put in my sources.list for nonefree? |
| 20:08.01 | etsme | !seen amphi |
| 20:08.13 | dpkg | amphi <n=amphi@unaffiliated/amphi> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3d 15h 49m 33s ago, saying: 'coolzone: torsmo?'. |
| 20:08.13 | cheal | !tell sn00p about non-free |
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| 20:08.29 | magyar | formorer: you in dev team? |
| 20:08.39 | cheal | iswm: it's not just a matter of GNU/Linux experience, you also shouldn't run unstable if you're not experienced with Debian |
| 20:08.41 | formorer | magyar: no |
| 20:08.42 | cheal | bbl |
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| 20:09.12 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm trying to build kernel 2.6.10 on current Etch. I get strange error. I also keep getting warnings about conversion from an incompatible pointer type. I tried both "gcc" (gcc 4.0.4) and gcc-3.3 (by running 'make CC=gcc-3.3 HOSTCC=gcc-3.3') .I till get errors |
| 20:09.28 | formorer | tzafrir_laptop: don't use such an ancient gcc |
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| 20:10.47 | Nicky | er. decompressing gave me a file .9011 |
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| 20:11.26 | tzafrir_laptop | formorer, any suggested version? should 4.1 be better? |
| 20:11.37 | formorer | tzafrir_laptop: just use the default gcc from etch |
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| 20:11.51 | formorer | should be 4.0 if I remember correct |
| 20:12.01 | Nicky | i got OOB680_m5_native_packed-1_it.9011 |
| 20:12.11 | tzafrir_laptop | heck, I was using "gcc" at first with no messing. But the system as an upgraded Sarge system |
| 20:12.14 | fericitu_ | Wher i can find bootable floppy image for debian ...i find on debian.org ...and i don't find it ? |
| 20:12.29 | tzafrir_laptop | 4.0.4 gave me the errors in the first place |
| 20:12.34 | killown | i need to gain cloak for my nick anyone help me? |
| 20:12.50 | Nicky | tzafrit_laptop |
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| 20:13.22 | markybob | when trying to play an mpeg video file in xine, i keep receiving this error. anyone know how to fix it? xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_rate_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
| 20:13.32 | Nicky | tzafrir_laptop |
| 20:13.44 | formorer | tzafrir_laptop: 4.0 should compile that version, then you have different problems with you kernel that are not gcc problems |
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| 20:14.53 | notx | how do I determine what wins server a machine is using? |
| 20:15.07 | fericitu_ | Where i can find bootable floppy image for debian ...i find on debian.org ...and i don't find it ? |
| 20:15.15 | initech | notx: look in smb.conf |
| 20:15.47 | orchid | markybob: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=libasound2 |
| 20:15.49 | notx | initech: if none is specified I want to know how names are being resolved |
| 20:16.14 | initech | notx: i think nmblookup does that or wbinfo, if not tcpdump will tell you |
| 20:16.17 | killown | !lilo as |
| 20:16.28 | notx | thanx |
| 20:16.55 | orchid | markybob: bug #369040 , I think your gonna have to wait for a fix pretty much |
| 20:17.16 | markybob | orchid, thanks |
| 20:17.38 | sn00p | Does 3.1sarge come with 2.6 kernel? |
| 20:18.06 | Vasistha | sn00p: yeah |
| 20:18.09 | markybob | sn00p, yes, if you boot with linux26 |
| 20:18.16 | Vasistha | sn00p: sarge has both 2.4 and 2.6 kernels |
| 20:18.24 | sn00p | ahh |
| 20:19.06 | sn00p | whats the proper way to add non-free and contrib to the sources.list? |
| 20:19.16 | mc__ | sn00p, nano |
| 20:19.25 | Supaplex | $EDITOR |
| 20:19.27 | sn00p | Whats the lines do I add |
| 20:19.34 | mattt | does debian have a chkconfig equivalent? |
| 20:19.55 | fericitu_ | Where i can find bootable floppy image for debian ...i find on debian.org ...and i don't find it ? |
| 20:20.14 | Nicky | somenody know how to install openoffice ? |
| 20:20.15 | Vasistha | !install |
| 20:20.16 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 20:20.22 | Vasistha | fericitu_: ^^^ |
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| 20:20.39 | Vasistha | Nicky: there's an open office package... |
| 20:20.45 | tzafrir_laptop | formorer, so what could those problems be? http://pastebin.com/741719 |
| 20:20.52 | Nicky | .tar.gz i decompressed |
| 20:20.53 | Vasistha | mattt: what does chkconfig do? |
| 20:21.02 | Nicky | and obtained a .9011 dirextory |
| 20:21.08 | Vasistha | Nicky: you should use the debian package |
| 20:21.16 | Nicky | where do i pick ? |
| 20:21.24 | Nicky | at openoffice.org isee only that pack i peek |
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| 20:21.25 | tzafrir_laptop | apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 20:21.26 | thingfish | !tell fericitu_ about boot floppies |
| 20:21.28 | Vasistha | Nicky: ...rather than downloading from openoffice.org web site |
| 20:21.32 | mattt | Vasistha, manipulate rc symlinks |
| 20:21.34 | formorer | tzafrir_laptop: are there any obscure patches applied? and why are you building such an old version of the kernel? |
| 20:21.35 | Nicky | apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 20:21.38 | mattt | Vasistha, i think i just found update-rc.d |
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| 20:21.43 | formorer | mattt: NO |
| 20:21.53 | formorer | mattt: update-rc.d is not for users |
| 20:21.57 | formorer | just forget about |
| 20:21.59 | formorer | it |
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| 20:22.06 | mattt | then what do i use? |
| 20:22.15 | Nicky | says no candidate |
| 20:22.17 | thingfish | !tell fericitu_ about sarge bf |
| 20:22.22 | Vasistha | Nicky: hmmm, let me check that ou |
| 20:22.23 | Vasistha | t |
| 20:22.25 | tzafrir_laptop | formorer, to test a problem of that kernel. And I'm trying vanilla kernel Actually vanilla 2.6.9 patched with patch-2.6.10 |
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| 20:22.58 | formorer | mattt: any user rc editing solution, like rcconf |
| 20:23.01 | Vasistha | Nicky: that's odd, I can see it at packages.debian.org |
| 20:23.11 | mattt | k, thanks |
| 20:23.24 | mattt | oooh, this is good |
| 20:23.26 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 20:23.26 | dpkg | somebody said tetrinet was multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 20:23.31 | castro2006 | can somesone give me name of mysql interface to manage the database in graphical interface for debian |
| 20:23.33 | formorer | mattt: if you use update-rc.d (which is four packages only) you will them reenabled after update |
| 20:23.39 | formorer | castro2006: phpmyadmin |
| 20:23.52 | Nicky | output: Package openoffice.org is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 20:23.55 | castro2006 | i need another one |
| 20:23.56 | fluor- | can I "echo package reinstall | dpkg --set-selections" ? |
| 20:23.58 | mattt | formorer, cool, thanks for the tip |
| 20:24.00 | fluor- | is it reinstall or re-install? |
| 20:24.02 | castro2006 | some thing like mysql-front |
| 20:24.04 | fluor- | or nothing? |
| 20:24.16 | Vasistha | Nicky: uhm, maybe you're having a problem with your repositories |
| 20:24.41 | sn00p | ok, I j ust installed flashplugin-nonfree and firefox says no plugins installed |
| 20:24.49 | Vasistha | Nicky: you should be able to apt-get install openoffice.org -- unless you have an unusual architecture. What kind of pc are you using? |
| 20:25.01 | Vasistha | sn00p: have you restarted firefox? |
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| 20:25.12 | Nicky | a PIII |
| 20:25.31 | tzafrir_laptop | Nicky, I suspect you have only a "non-us" source |
| 20:25.49 | Nicky | wait... my apt maybe configured to use thy cdrom only |
| 20:25.57 | Nicky | how do i tell 'em to use the .net ? |
| 20:26.03 | sn00p | Vasistha: yea |
| 20:26.35 | markybob | Nicky, apt-setup |
| 20:26.45 | killown | how hide whois ? /mode? |
| 20:27.00 | formorer | mattt: no problem |
| 20:27.02 | war92 | Anyone here use RAID5 using MDADM? So far I've been using it for testing purposes, I pulled the power off a drive to test it, works well.. anyone using it in production or just for a long time? your comments on it? |
| 20:27.10 | castro2006 | i fond some thing called yamysqlfront but i faild to install it |
| 20:27.18 | castro2006 | it gives many problems |
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| 20:27.44 | sn00p | Vasistha i installed it using apt-get flashplugin-nonfree |
| 20:27.57 | war92 | anyone here? |
| 20:27.58 | war92 | use it? |
| 20:28.12 | Vasistha | sn00p: yeah, we heard you the first time ;-) just a sec |
| 20:28.47 | Nicky | hehe now apt-get works with openoff ;) |
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| 20:29.06 | war92 | noone uses raid5/mdadm here! ? |
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| 20:29.18 | rohan | does anyone provide packaged ck kernels for debian sid ? |
| 20:29.21 | Vasistha | sn00p: have you checked edit > preferences > downloads > plug-ins ? |
| 20:29.30 | markybob | war92, yeah, keep whining and crying. let's see who jumps to help you with that. |
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| 20:30.12 | war92 | markybob: don't need help, just asking for peoples' experience using raid5/sw |
| 20:30.13 | Nicky | is possibl eto apt-get installa alsa ?' |
| 20:30.22 | rohan | no, Nicky |
| 20:30.23 | tzafrir_laptop | rohan, make-kpkg? |
| 20:30.41 | rohan | tzafrir_laptop: yes, but compiling kernels is a pita on p3 550mhz 256mb ram :) |
| 20:30.59 | tzafrir_laptop | Nicky, what version of Debian do you have? |
| 20:31.09 | Nicky | debian sarge 3-1 |
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| 20:31.37 | Vasistha | rohan: better than on my 333 mhz p2 with 192 mb ;-) |
| 20:31.45 | superlinux | what is the site that lists all compatible hardware with linux? |
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| 20:31.51 | rohan | Vasistha: :)) |
| 20:31.57 | rohan | Vasistha: but thats not your one and only pc, right ? |
| 20:32.02 | rohan | this p3 550mhz is |
| 20:32.03 | Vasistha | superlinux: have you googled linux hardware compatibility ? |
| 20:32.06 | rohan | Vasistha: are you indian /? |
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| 20:32.34 | Vasistha | rohan: well... it's the only one I have set up properly to do such a compilation |
| 20:32.50 | rohan | Vasistha: ok |
| 20:33.01 | superlinux | when I ask I ask for a famous site that you know |
| 20:33.26 | superlinux | why would I ask then? |
| 20:33.26 | samuel | sup all |
| 20:33.29 | rohan | !hardware |
| 20:33.29 | dpkg | Before buying -any- hardware, make sure it's supported by all operating systems you want to use. See: the hardware howto. Ask me about howtos. or if you ask "Hey, why does my card suck so much in Linux," we have to say, "because your card manufacturer can't decide whether they're in the hardware or software business.", or check http://lhd.datapower.com/, http://linuxhardware.net/ and http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html |
| 20:33.31 | Vasistha | superlinux: I'm pretty sure there's a site like linux-hardware or something, I would just be googling for it myself |
| 20:33.34 | rohan | suipsee that ^^ |
| 20:33.51 | Nicky | !alsa |
| 20:33.51 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard or see <alsa-checklist>, or http://alsa-project.org/ |
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| 20:33.57 | rohan | !tell Nicky about selftell |
| 20:35.13 | samuel | im trying to build the nvidia kernel drivers, but ive been unable to. i keep getting a "kernel function vmap() which is necessary for x86_64 appears to be unavailable in this kernel" there isnt much help on google, any ideas? |
| 20:35.25 | Nicky | !tell me alsa-checklist |
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| 20:35.52 | rohan | Nicky: please use /msg dpkg foo |
| 20:36.00 | rohan | didnt i already tell you that :) |
| 20:36.47 | Nicky | is openoffice 1.1 the latest for debian ? |
| 20:36.50 | rohan | anyway, be seeing you guys ... have a nice day :) |
| 20:37.11 | Vasistha | Nicky: no, but if you're running stable, that's what's there |
| 20:37.28 | Nicky | ? |
| 20:37.34 | streuner | Nicky: check out backports.org |
| 20:37.46 | Vasistha | Nicky: I've been eagerly waiting for etch to go stable so that I'll have OOo 2 ... but yeah, there's backports too |
| 20:37.59 | samuel | are there any vesa drivers for amd64 xorg i can use? |
| 20:38.20 | _rene_ | Nicky: it's easy. stable was released almost a year ago. there wasn't a OOo2 there and it will never be included |
| 20:38.31 | _rene_ | Nicky: stable only gets security updates and critical fixes |
| 20:38.43 | formorer | .oO( trust rene he knows what he is saying ;) ) |
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| 20:38.50 | streuner | hehe |
| 20:38.51 | _rene_ | Nicky: if you really *need* (rread: need, not want) you need a backport |
| 20:38.59 | Nicky | i did apt get and it installed the (us-version) of 1.1! |
| 20:39.08 | _rene_ | Nicky: right. as said, completely normal |
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| 20:40.38 | chops | Is there a page anywhere which lists a table of DMA failure status codes (e.g. "hda: dma_intr: status=0x7f { DriveReady DeviceFault |
| 20:40.38 | chops | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.58 | _rene_ | Nicky: as I already said, stable was released *before* OOo2 existed. it even was released before OOo 1.1.5 existed. Stable never will get a new version of it. Only updates will be security updates or critical bugfixes |
| 20:41.06 | chops | I.e. broad categories like "probable software error," "dying drive," "dying controller," "temporary hardware failure," etc. |
| 20:41.21 | _rene_ | Nicky: and again: if you really need (not just want) OOo2 use a backport (see www.backports.org) |
| 20:41.32 | Nicky | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.39 | _rene_ | Nicky: no need to wonder again about why you got 1.1.x, it's competely normal |
| 20:41.46 | _rene_ | Nicky: read the instructions.... |
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| 20:41.59 | Nicky | i can't use thy mouse atm ;) |
| 20:42.01 | _rene_ | (and don't forget to install sun java if you want all modules...) |
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| 20:42.37 | _rene_ | the database module needs Java.. |
| 20:43.08 | _rene_ | if you don't need it, you can just apt-get -t sarge-backports install openoffice.org-writer for example (again, read the instructions, really) |
| 20:43.23 | petemc | chops: generally, that means a dying disk or a dodgy cable |
| 20:44.47 | BarryAllen | peterS, are u there? |
| 20:44.52 | peterS | maybe |
| 20:44.55 | BarryAllen | hehehe |
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| 20:45.25 | _fjh_ | Hello, what are the correct access permissions for /dev/mapper && /dev/mapper/control? dmsetup targets complains: "permission denied" here! |
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| 20:46.15 | BarryAllen | peterS, when i use debian/rules/binary it creates something in a tmp dir and others on package-name dir .... and pack files of package-name dir and the real files are im tmp dir..... |
| 20:46.16 | markybob | wmhtet, yep. downgrade http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369040 |
| 20:46.28 | BarryAllen | *debian/rules binary |
| 20:46.36 | chops | petemc: Is that so? I had guessed that it was a kernel bug... 0x7f sounded suspiciously like it wasn't the actual error bitmask, but came from somewhere else. |
| 20:46.48 | peterS | BarryAllen: you control debian/rules. you can make it do whatever you want it to do. this is a common way to construct a debian package, but not the only way. |
| 20:47.20 | chops | petemc: Is there any sort of resource that explains those bitmasks, or do you have to Just Know? This isn't the first time I've been stuck looking at a DMA error and googling randomly. :-) |
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| 20:47.35 | wmhtet | markybob: thx, I am a bit relief that it is not my fault totally :) |
| 20:48.07 | markybob | wmhtet, just what we get for running sid sometimes |
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| 20:48.15 | peterS | BarryAllen: one way or another, you want all the files for a package to end up in the same directory, and then you call dpkg-gencontrol, dpkg-genchanges, dpkg-buildpackage, etc., using that directory. most of this is somewhat automated by use of debhelper. |
| 20:48.31 | wmhtet | markybob, will it be fixed if I switch back to etch ? |
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| 20:48.52 | tzafrir_laptop | problem probably solved: I needed the patch called linux-2.6-seg-5 from the binutils souces |
| 20:49.00 | wmhtet | or if there is a not so hard work around |
| 20:49.07 | markybob | wmhtet, http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/05/20/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-lib/libasound2_1.0.11-4_i386.deb you can install that (which will be downgrading libasound2) and your problem will be fixed |
| 20:49.12 | norbert | how come dosbox (gpl2) isn't in debian while dosemu is, even though dosbox works much better? ;-) |
| 20:49.16 | Nicky | rene i did what's described in backports.org -> instructions ,,,, it's normal that it refuses to upgrade open ofiice |
| 20:49.24 | Nicky | office+? |
| 20:49.29 | wmhtet | whoah to markybob! |
| 20:49.30 | tzafrir_laptop | It solved the immidiate errors. I still get many warnings. But maybe I have just mis-interpetted them |
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| 20:50.26 | crazy_penguin | could somebody tell me the name of an command line program that can generate an output containing a number of same characters. |
| 20:50.37 | tzafrir_laptop | Nicky, maybe because it depeds on some Java? Just a wild guess. Is kaffe a good enough JVM for it? |
| 20:50.52 | norbert | crazy_penguin: it's call "yes" |
| 20:51.05 | _rene_ | Nicky: then you didn't do what I said additionally |
| 20:51.16 | Nicky | it says openoffice.org is already the newest |
| 20:51.18 | chops | petemc: Alternately, can you tell me any more based on the full output? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2670 |
| 20:51.20 | _rene_ | Nicky: I just told you what you need to do if you want the whole office |
| 20:51.44 | formorer | tzafrir_laptop: no, you need a gcj 4.x oder sun/ibm java |
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| 20:51.49 | Nicky | rene i followed all instructions in backports.org |
| 20:51.51 | _rene_ | Nicky: and I also said how you can just install Writer or Calc or Draw or whaterevr standalone without the Database module (which does need Java and as sarge has no suitable free Java) |
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| 20:52.00 | _rene_ | Nicky: And I told you something here, too |
| 20:52.06 | _rene_ | read again |
| 20:52.07 | _rene_ | EOD |
| 20:52.13 | wmhtet | heh, how happy I am to get back the sound and running juk playing User's Yeah :D |
| 20:52.14 | formorer | *G* |
| 20:52.28 | tzafrir_laptop | formorer, and will the openoffice 2 package install if one of them is not present? |
| 20:52.31 | wmhtet | markybob, thx again :) |
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| 20:52.38 | markybob | wmhtet, np |
| 20:52.38 | _rene_ | tzafrir_laptop: ? |
| 20:52.42 | crazy_penguin | norbert: i need to generate a number of characters given in the comandline like 70 consecutive + characters |
| 20:52.44 | ferris_ | what financial software is recommended for debian? |
| 20:52.48 | formorer | tzafrir_laptop: no, since java is non-free |
| 20:52.59 | rem | ? |
| 20:53.00 | formorer | tzafrir_laptop: und etch and sid it works of course, but not for the backport |
| 20:53.01 | _rene_ | tzafrir_laptop: openoffice.org is just a dummy-package |
| 20:53.09 | _rene_ | tzafrir_laptop: which just installs all components |
| 20:53.17 | tzafrir_laptop | if you want to install openoffice from backports.org, gcj 4.x is probably not an option |
| 20:53.18 | wmhtet | I switched to sid because etch provide to much version update (everyday?) |
| 20:53.21 | _rene_ | tzafrir_laptop: unfortunately -base (the databse app) needs Java |
| 20:53.26 | norbert | crazy_penguin, like I said, you can use "yes", try $ yes hello |
| 20:53.30 | tzafrir_laptop | The rest are non-free and pain to install, IIRC |
| 20:53.31 | _rene_ | tzafrir_laptop: and it doesn't work with the free Java in sarge |
| 20:53.36 | _rene_ | tzafrir_laptop: so you need suns |
| 20:53.37 | crazy_penguin | oh |
| 20:53.42 | crazy_penguin | ok thx norbert |
| 20:53.48 | _rene_ | it works with etch/sids free Java, but that doesn't help bpo |
| 20:53.59 | formorer | wmhtet: please go away and think about your sentence |
| 20:54.00 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.08 | formorer | wmhtet: sid has the most updates |
| 20:54.15 | _rene_ | sid. because I have to. |
| 20:54.15 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.16 | formorer | wmhtet: if you ask that question, use sarge |
| 20:54.26 | wmhtet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.28 | _rene_ | (Developer) |
| 20:54.30 | formorer | EOD |
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| 20:54.45 | _rene_ | but it's also really unstable and formorer is completly right :-) |
| 20:54.52 | _rene_ | formorer: you here? :) |
| 20:55.11 | formorer | _rene_: hey, I'm running that channel for the last 2 days :) |
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| 20:55.25 | formorer | _rene_: I try to answer 10 question simultan |
| 20:55.26 | lewis | how do I rename a user? |
| 20:55.35 | _rene_ | formorer: yeah, wondered there already ;) |
| 20:55.39 | no0ke | how do you overburn with k3b? |
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| 20:55.59 | markybob | wmhtet, testing is always a couple of weeks behind sid. sid = unstable. etch = testing. sarge = stable |
| 20:56.02 | _rene_ | formorer: I ocassionally answer here since most time is to stressful even to keep up |
| 20:56.16 | formorer | _rene_: sure |
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| 20:56.52 | ferris_ | lewis, open users and groups applets, then go to properties, and rename it from there |
| 20:56.55 | wmhtet | markybob, thx again. thx formorer also |
| 20:57.42 | lewis | usermod -l new_user old_user |
| 20:58.28 | BarryAllen | peterS, i give up.... there are no way to do that hehehe |
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| 20:58.57 | us0r | ok, so i just recompiled my kernel from the current 2.6 source that is available as an apt package, and it tells me it cannot open my root device (an ext2 partition) and kernel panics on boot. I have all filesystems present on my hard drive compiled into the kernel, including cramfs. any inital guesses as to how to fix this? |
| 20:59.00 | us0r | i followed the install detailed at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html , section 7.1.1 to the letter |
| 20:59.00 | freesbie | can somebody recommend me a nice image browser/viewer for gnome? |
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| 20:59.11 | peterS | BarryAllen: a lot of the time, you install to debian/tmp/ and later move files over to debian/your_package_name using 'dh_movefiles' or 'dh_install' |
| 20:59.30 | peterS | freesbie: eog is not too bad |
| 20:59.30 | dvs | us0r: Yeah, compile your IDE controller into the kernel too |
| 20:59.39 | freesbie | peterS: thanks |
| 20:59.52 | us0r | ahh, thanks, dvs. i'll try that |
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| 21:02.32 | freesbie | hm eog isnt my taste |
| 21:02.47 | peterS | freesbie: it is pretty limited. you can only browse a single directory at a time, etc. |
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| 21:02.53 | freesbie | i need something which displays thumbnails |
| 21:02.57 | crazy_penguin | could someone tell me the name of a cli utility program that can generate in his output a numebr of consecutive chars given in commandline. i not refering to yes and i'm looking for something that can be found in the core of the os. |
| 21:02.59 | freesbie | on a side bar or so |
| 21:03.28 | peterS | freesbie: eog does thumbnails if you give it a directory as the argument to open |
| 21:04.21 | freesbie | peterS: ah i see. its usable now. thx |
| 21:04.26 | peterS | np |
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| 21:05.35 | Vasistha | freesbie: I like kuickshow, it can display thumbnails. Also, check out gwenview |
| 21:05.36 | crazy_penguin | sorry. i repeated myself. it was resolved. |
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| 21:08.54 | peterS | they say pornview is pretty good, but I haven't tried it |
| 21:09.17 | Maulkin | freesbie: gthumb? eog? gqview? |
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| 21:10.51 | jnjb | hello |
| 21:11.38 | dusa | peterS: viewing public organising random networks ? |
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| 21:12.04 | peterS | dusa: nah, they're honest about what it's intended for viewing |
| 21:12.21 | dusa | ;) |
| 21:12.51 | bootc | dusa: it's one of my fave thumbnail viewers it must be said |
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| 21:13.27 | jnjb | someone runs on kfreebsd? |
| 21:13.32 | freesbie | ok guys thanks a lot |
| 21:13.34 | freesbie | ill try some |
| 21:13.35 | freesbie | :) |
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| 21:16.34 | Supaplex | jnjb: yes, there's even a channel for it. What's your question anyway? |
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| 21:17.13 | jnjb | it there stable |
| 21:17.42 | Supaplex | mmm not really. it wasn't available when sarge was frozen. |
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| 21:18.51 | jnjb | i think try on my laptop but i can run with debian kernel on the same system |
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| 21:20.11 | jnjb | what is the chan for Supaplex |
| 21:20.46 | Nicky | divx codec is available for debian ? |
| 21:21.14 | Blissex | Nicky: check out the obvious unofficial repositories... |
| 21:21.20 | jnjb | i play divx whit vlc |
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| 21:26.32 | BarryAllen | peterS, the docs are included, the man, but all rest not.... |
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| 21:26.52 | BarryAllen | peterS, i think i ll need do that with rpms ... tks for all |
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| 21:28.49 | Seb | when i double-click on some text in X to select it, it doesn't include the '?' which isn't convenient for URLs, for instance... any way I can change that ? I have no idea where to start looking... |
| 21:29.43 | formorer | a |
| 21:29.47 | formorer | upps |
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| 21:30.07 | peterS | Seb: that behavior depends on your terminal app. some of the terminal apps can be configured about what symbols they consider as classes to be selected at once |
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| 21:31.21 | ic3man05 | has anybody know how to recompile the kernel the debian way? |
| 21:31.43 | ic3man05 | or have a site I can reference from |
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| 21:32.14 | Timtow | what is the command to change a users password as root? |
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| 21:32.23 | sid | Timtow: passwd usernamehere |
| 21:32.31 | Timtow | thank you |
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| 21:32.54 | sid | Timtow: You should probably "who" to see if the user is still connected...as changing their password while they are stilll connected won't disconnect them. |
| 21:33.00 | cheal | !tell ic3man05 about kp |
| 21:33.09 | p40 | look the picture pls http://www.linuxdevices.com/files/misc/ibm-watchpad.jpg |
| 21:33.15 | sid | Timtow: also if you are worried about security, you should apt-get install tripwire, so you can monitor every file a user changes and what they did when and where. |
| 21:33.27 | Timtow | ooo, awesome |
| 21:33.32 | Timtow | I shore will |
| 21:33.39 | ic3man05 | cool thanks |
| 21:33.41 | stormrider_may | Does anyone now how to make a intelligente bandwidth control on a debian gateway? |
| 21:33.46 | Timtow | but I was needing the password command for the Samba config, to synchronize passwords... |
| 21:33.48 | stormrider_may | an* |
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| 21:35.00 | p40 | in Italy at Rome we are working about wifi and you ? |
| 21:35.01 | BarryAllen | peterS, !!! i found :) |
| 21:35.09 | p40 | http://ninux.org:443 |
| 21:35.34 | BarryAllen | peterS, dh_install was commented into rules file.... i uncomment it and added --sourcedir=debian/tmp ... seems works |
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| 21:36.09 | peterS | BarryAllen: right, that sounds correct. it's helpful to understand not just how to run dh_make, but what the different lines in debian/rules actually do and what they expect. |
| 21:36.12 | p40 | in the next day i build a panel antennas of 3 mt for 3mt |
| 21:36.27 | humbolt | how big can I make a ping. is the sice of an icmp packet limited somehow? |
| 21:36.36 | ansong | i've got a problem where arts crashes (signal 11) on login. it keeps crashing until it gives me an option to turn it off, or i turn it off in control center. before an upgrade to unstable from testing, two arts instances would use ~49% cpu each. after the upgrade to sid, i get this. any ideas? |
| 21:36.45 | peterS | humbolt: what limits did you find when you tried it? |
| 21:36.47 | amee2k | Q: why does a file appear on the terminal when i run 'ls' but not when i log in over FTP? http://pastebin.com/741852 ( the file is ubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso ) |
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| 21:37.16 | peterS | amee2k: I wouldn't be surprised if some FTP servers have problems with files over 2 GB large |
| 21:37.29 | amee2k | hm... pure-ftpd ? |
| 21:37.52 | amee2k | os is 3.1 stable |
| 21:37.54 | peterS | amee2k: even apache2 can't deal with files that large. (It will in the etch release, but it does not in sarge) |
| 21:37.56 | Covener | amee2k: fwiw, apache mod_autoindex used to just stop processing what stat() failed on a large file |
| 21:38.20 | amee2k | o.O |
| 21:38.25 | peterS | Covener: right, that's apache2, and it will continue to fail until debian gets version 2.2, which AFAIK hasn't quite happened yet |
| 21:38.57 | Covener | peterS: no, mod_autoindex can certainly list directories with large files in 2.0.x |
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| 21:39.23 | stormrider_may | Q: just asking in another way. Is there a way to always control bandwidth, like in a 20kb link, when 1 person is using, he gets all the bandwidth, then 2 persons are using, each one get 10kb, possible? |
| 21:39.26 | peterS | Covener: that surprises me, since the underlying infrastructure can't deal with that |
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| 21:40.03 | humbolt | peterS: 2048 |
| 21:40.14 | rcorsaro | What is the most modern way to handle QOS with TCP/IP? |
| 21:40.32 | peterS | humbolt: that's all you could get with ping -s? you should be able to get up somewhere near 65536 |
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| 21:41.22 | Covener | peterS: ISTR large file support is only a problem with third-party modules and 32-bit architectures |
| 21:41.39 | humbolt | peterS: ah, actually i wnated to ask this question about traceroute |
| 21:42.02 | peterS | Covener: certainly only with 32-bit architectures. but it affects the core as well. you have to explicitly compile it with large file support, which debian does not, for good reasons |
| 21:42.08 | Covener | peterS: meaning ABI breakage if you just decide to build apache2 w/ LFS |
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| 21:42.30 | Covener | peterS: well I wouldn't spin that as a dependency on apache 2.2 then |
| 21:42.32 | peterS | Covener: yes, but apparently even the core had some random problems when they tried it, so it was pushed back to post-sarge |
| 21:42.45 | Nicky | how do i make my logitech quicam work ? |
| 21:42.56 | peterS | and then the decision was made not to make the change until apache 2.2, which will require other module changes anyway |
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| 21:44.08 | p40 | this is an italian www, where there are all the hardware houses that build pc without windows and the others that offer pc with windows cons freedom of end user |
| 21:44.14 | p40 | http://www.oltrelinux.com/forums/read.php?f=622&i=1&t=1 |
| 21:44.14 | marco13185 | after a dist-upgrade, the alsa sound plugin has dissapeared from all of my music playing apps |
| 21:44.20 | marco13185 | alsa still loads and unloads fine |
| 21:44.25 | marco13185 | but I can't play music through it |
| 21:44.37 | fluxdude_home | how to I find all the files that belong to a package? |
| 21:44.45 | Nicky | how do i make my logitech quicam work ? |
| 21:44.47 | peterS | fluxdude_home: dpkg -L |
| 21:44.48 | pyroplasm | fluxdude_home: dpkg -L |
| 21:45.01 | streuner | Nicky: find a driver |
| 21:45.12 | p40 | example of harware houses that offer pc with windows are: asustek, dell, hp, ibm, toshiba |
| 21:45.31 | Covener | marco13185: shot in the dark -- lose gstreamer*-alsaa maybe? |
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| 21:46.26 | streuner | Nicky: these drivers are often third party drivers, if you lucky a script compile without any hassle the stuff and put the module into location |
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| 21:46.52 | p40 | without windows are: acer, comex, ideaprogress,elettrodata,hyunday, nevada,santech |
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| 21:47.03 | streuner | Nicky: you usually modprobe them then and use a cam app. - done. |
| 21:47.04 | fourat | is there any ssh client with Source address spoofing capability ? |
| 21:47.44 | p40 | i hope to have done pleasure to anyone |
| 21:47.56 | Covener | p40: I hope it was good for you. |
| 21:48.16 | fluxdude_home | thanks, forgot about dpkg, it's always apt on my mind... |
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| 21:48.40 | p40 | the license microsoft say: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/eula.mspx |
| 21:48.40 | p40 | IF YOU DO NOT AGREE, DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE PRODUCT; YOU MAY RETURN IT TO YOUR PLACE OF PURCHASE FOR A FULL REFUND. |
| 21:48.42 | streuner | Nicky: do you have USB-Messenger? |
| 21:48.46 | streuner | oh |
| 21:49.02 | p40 | now i stay in stand-by |
| 21:49.04 | Nicky | no |
| 21:49.10 | Nicky | what is it ? |
| 21:49.38 | ericP | any offlineimap sages around? |
| 21:49.40 | streuner | Nicky: Logitech USB Messenger, one of 3.000.000 models they sell ;-) |
| 21:50.13 | Nicky | mine is logitech quickcam express |
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| 21:50.30 | ericP | i have two imap server (tagged Private and Work). Work works, and Private is not showing me any message except a "quit" on the status line |
| 21:50.56 | ericP | i'm pouring through offlineimap's debug output trying to figure out what's (not) going on |
| 21:51.39 | redphoenix1 | what package provices wlanconf?? |
| 21:51.42 | redphoenix1 | i cant seem to find it |
| 21:51.46 | ic3man05 | is the vanilla kernel source for compiling fine or is there a 2.6.x debian source tree available? |
| 21:52.14 | streuner | ic3man05: why do you think you need to compile a kernel? |
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| 21:52.50 | ic3man05 | streuner: learning process + I wanted to mess with bootsplash |
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| 21:54.16 | ic3man05 | nevermind I found it in apt, 2.6 renamed it to linux-source |
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| 21:55.42 | streuner | well, vanila source is better for compiling kernels... |
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| 21:56.05 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:56.20 | SpeedEvil | Anyone have a view on the guy that was k-lined a while back for bannering "hello debian folks" on figlet? |
| 21:56.22 | Seb | peterS: cool, thanks a lot |
| 21:56.44 | ic3man05 | I know how to compile vanila source fine, its just I want to learn the debian way |
| 21:57.17 | ic3man05 | I've been using debian for about two weeks now |
| 21:57.28 | amee2k | what tool can i use to split up a large file (in a way that is easily rejoinable on a windows box) ? |
| 21:57.49 | peterS | amee2k: just 'split -bNNNNNN' works fine |
| 21:57.50 | ic3man05 | amee2k, I think rar files can work like that |
| 21:58.02 | peterS | amee2k: you can rejoin the file on windows with 'copy /b file1+file2+file3 destfile' |
| 21:58.03 | SpeedEvil | rar may be easier |
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| 21:58.22 | SpeedEvil | for the non-technical target |
| 21:58.36 | SpeedEvil | trying to get them to do copy ... is a pain |
| 21:58.49 | peterS | rar is, however, non-free. whereas split is in debian main |
| 21:59.04 | SpeedEvil | Hmm. |
| 21:59.06 | streuner | version 3 |
| 21:59.10 | streuner | is non-free |
| 21:59.11 | SpeedEvil | zip? |
| 21:59.13 | streuner | 2 is free |
| 21:59.16 | p40 | i turn back on-air |
| 21:59.33 | p40 | excuse me to all i just need an information |
| 21:59.55 | peterS | p40: so far you've been off-topic for about 15 minutes straight. are you going to ask something about debian now? |
| 22:00.14 | p40 | anyone know if the sonyericsson k608i is compatible gnu/linux |
| 22:00.46 | p40 | i would like this last one with the pc just is and umts cell phone |
| 22:01.17 | p40 | awaiting for a reply.... thanks to all |
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| 22:02.06 | noob_ | i used to get all the answers I needed from you guys for my debian box.. now I've got redhat enterprise 4 -- can somebody refer me to a good channel for rhel? |
| 22:02.40 | ic3man05 | noob: reinstall debian ;p |
| 22:02.51 | amee2k | noob_: #rhel or #redhat maybe |
| 22:03.14 | noob_ | heheh.. i miss debian. :( |
| 22:03.28 | Nicky | if i type modprobe it says unknown command why ? |
| 22:03.46 | ic3man05 | nicky: are you root? |
| 22:03.47 | SpeedEvil | Nick path problems |
| 22:03.55 | SpeedEvil | Nicky: try /sbin/modprobe ? |
| 22:03.57 | peterS | modprobe is in /sbin, which isn't in the default path for non-root users |
| 22:04.12 | peterS | since most uses of modprobe require root access, this seems reasonable |
| 22:04.33 | streuner | makes not much sense otherwise :-) |
| 22:05.05 | Nicky | ok with /sbin works |
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| 22:05.15 | streuner | peterS: i didn't see you on any photos in debconf? |
| 22:05.27 | some_dude | hi, I've killed my cupds.conf, how can i restore it ? |
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| 22:05.41 | fulldisclosure | hi |
| 22:05.42 | Nicky | just a question i finished installing driver for quickcam and it said type modprobe quickcam to launch but happens notinh when i do |
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| 22:05.57 | fulldisclosure | hi |
| 22:06.11 | SpeedEvil | Nicky: do you mean you get no errors? |
| 22:06.16 | cahoot | Nicky: the *nix way is to only report problems |
| 22:06.20 | fulldisclosure | a good program for looking for error in a HD? |
| 22:06.22 | SpeedEvil | Nicky in that case, it's probably worked |
| 22:06.31 | SpeedEvil | fulldisclosure: A hammer. |
| 22:06.38 | SpeedEvil | Hit it with one, and you've found it :) |
| 22:06.44 | fulldisclosure | ... |
| 22:06.47 | SpeedEvil | fulldisclosure: OTOH is it an IDE drive? |
| 22:06.49 | amee2k | o.O |
| 22:06.54 | SpeedEvil | IDE/ATA/SATA ? |
| 22:07.26 | fulldisclosure | SpeedEvil, IDE |
| 22:07.26 | SpeedEvil | Ok |
| 22:07.27 | streuner | !info smartmontools |
| 22:07.27 | SpeedEvil | farily recent |
| 22:07.32 | SpeedEvil | >1G? |
| 22:07.33 | dpkg | smartmontools: (control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.36-6 (sid), Packaged size: 255 kB, Installed size: 552 kB |
| 22:07.40 | SpeedEvil | If so, that works |
| 22:07.44 | SpeedEvil | smartctl -a /dev/hda |
| 22:07.48 | SpeedEvil | if you've got it installed |
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| 22:07.57 | SpeedEvil | thius asks the drive if it thinks it's healty |
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| 22:08.05 | SpeedEvil | and reads out a number of status indicators |
| 22:08.09 | streuner | HD must support SMART |
| 22:08.19 | SpeedEvil | including if the drive thinks that it's about to fail |
| 22:08.21 | streuner | mostly all new HD's does that |
| 22:08.24 | SpeedEvil | streuner: true of course. |
| 22:08.35 | SpeedEvil | However, I don't think I've had a drive >15G that doesn't |
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| 22:09.56 | fulldisclosure | streuner, It worked |
| 22:10.22 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 22:10.44 | SpeedEvil | For best results, you want to log the output at daily intervals, and flag changes |
| 22:11.08 | fulldisclosure | and badblocks could be easier to read? |
| 22:11.14 | SpeedEvil | for example, in "reallocated event count' |
| 22:11.18 | sid | How can I do a dist-upgrade and hold _one_ package behind so it isn't upgraded? |
| 22:11.19 | superbeef | Hey folks I just switched my sarge box over to apache2. PHP works fine on it, except for when going to http://host/~username/ it sends the php code to the browser. If I specify index.php it works. If I have a php index in a subdirectory, such as (http://host/~/user/subdir/) it works just fine. Any suggestions? |
| 22:11.21 | SpeedEvil | badblocks is less sensitive generally |
| 22:11.35 | SpeedEvil | badblocks doesn't really work well with modern drives |
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| 22:11.37 | fulldisclosure | But I only want to know if the hd is healthy or not |
| 22:11.41 | SpeedEvil | Ok |
| 22:11.45 | fulldisclosure | I dont understand smartctl :/ |
| 22:11.51 | SpeedEvil | Lo0ok at the 'passed' or 'failed' line |
| 22:11.51 | fulldisclosure | I can read "errors" |
| 22:11.52 | streuner | sid: /msg dpkg hold |
| 22:11.57 | some_dude | where can i get the default cupsd.conf ? |
| 22:12.00 | SpeedEvil | SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED |
| 22:12.05 | SpeedEvil | means it's good for the moment |
| 22:12.09 | SpeedEvil | FAILED means backup now |
| 22:12.12 | streuner | that says nothing |
| 22:12.27 | SpeedEvil | it may well indicate imminent failure |
| 22:12.29 | fulldisclosure | passed |
| 22:12.34 | SpeedEvil | however. |
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| 22:12.39 | SpeedEvil | it only sometimes works. |
| 22:12.50 | SpeedEvil | look at the manpage for smartctl |
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| 22:13.00 | SpeedEvil | there is a 'surface scan' that you can put the drive through |
| 22:13.04 | SpeedEvil | as a self test |
| 22:13.09 | sid | thanks a lot streuner ...I appreciate the help./ |
| 22:13.13 | SpeedEvil | and it'll then report back |
| 22:13.16 | sid | it worked |
| 22:13.16 | streuner | no |
| 22:13.19 | streuner | np |
| 22:13.47 | humbolt | if the mtu is set to 1504 on an interface, that means all packages bigger than 1504 bytes will have to be split appart, right |
| 22:13.50 | sid | libasound2 breaks mplayer...so I downgraded it via snapshot.debian.net but I was curious how to do dist-upgrade for other packages. |
| 22:14.00 | SpeedEvil | humbolt: basically |
| 22:14.12 | humbolt | what is the maximum mtu on a multilink? |
| 22:14.14 | plazia | I have just installed the xorg xserver and the xfonts-scalable and xfonts-base and all the supporting packages required using apt-get install but when I start x now... everythign is in 640x480 despite having removed the "800x600" and "640x480" sections in all the bit depth entries in the xorg.conf can anybody suggest where I'm going wrong? |
| 22:14.14 | startxwhite | i am running sarge and had to upgrade to 2.6.15 but lost sound. whenever i run alsaconf my laptop freezes within seconds! |
| 22:14.25 | SpeedEvil | humbolt: 1500 is max for etherneet |
| 22:14.26 | streuner | sid: feel free to report the bug (libasound2) :-) |
| 22:14.38 | SpeedEvil | humbolt: though gigabit ethernet is bit different |
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| 22:15.00 | humbolt | how much for bigabit ethernet? |
| 22:15.09 | SpeedEvil | I dunno |
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| 22:15.13 | SpeedEvil | why do you want to know? |
| 22:15.16 | peterS | humbolt: normally 1500 but if your equipment is up for it, you can bump it up to 9000 |
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| 22:15.27 | sid | streuner: I did yesterday. |
| 22:15.30 | peterS | humbolt: that's known as 'jumbo frames', and your switches have to support them as well as both ends |
| 22:15.31 | SpeedEvil | Read around the linux menuconfig |
| 22:15.47 | streuner | sid: interesting, the bug wasn't 3-4 hours ago in BTS |
| 22:15.54 | sid | !broken.mplayer.may26 |
| 22:15.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, broken.mplayer.may26 is go here --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369057 |
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| 22:16.08 | humbolt | so if I do a ping with 2048 bytes that means, the package would actually be split appart and two packages would be sent? |
| 22:16.12 | streuner | !dbugs 369057 |
| 22:16.12 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 22:16.14 | SpeedEvil | generally |
| 22:16.15 | dpkg | #369057:G[libasound2] libasound2 1.0.11-5 breaks mplayer no movies play, I had to downgrade to 1.0.11-4 via http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/05/20/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-lib/ to fix it; Sat, 27 May 2006 06:33:02 UTC |
| 22:16.21 | peterS | humbolt: correct |
| 22:16.23 | sid | streuner: /msg dpkg factinfo broken.mplayer.may26 |
| 22:16.45 | streuner | sid: that bug doesn't break only mplayer :-) |
| 22:16.47 | streuner | ;-) |
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| 22:16.50 | humbolt | SpeedEvil: therefore this would increas latency due to the splitting combining process and the fact that 2 packages are sent |
| 22:16.56 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 22:17.02 | humbolt | no? |
| 22:17.05 | SpeedEvil | if you send >1500 on etherneet, you can break stuff |
| 22:17.07 | humbolt | why not |
| 22:17.11 | SpeedEvil | it stops working in some conditions |
| 22:17.29 | SpeedEvil | as it's defined as 1500 max |
| 22:17.53 | SpeedEvil | jumbo packet is an add-on for gigabit |
| 22:17.59 | peterS | now if you start sending ping packets up near 64kB, people will think you're trying to crash win98 boxes |
| 22:18.01 | SpeedEvil | which can take this to 9000 |
| 22:18.10 | humbolt | but I can advise the ping program to create datagrams of 2048 bytes size, so what is happening in that case? |
| 22:18.21 | SpeedEvil | the network stack will fragment it |
| 22:18.30 | SpeedEvil | tcpdump |
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| 22:18.51 | humbolt | that's what I mean it will be split (fragmented) |
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| 22:19.17 | humbolt | so if I do a ping with that much payload, I am actually sending 2 packages |
| 22:19.25 | humbolt | right? |
| 22:19.26 | SpeedEvil | pretty much, it has to be |
| 22:19.39 | humbolt | SpeedEvil: therefore latency would be increased! |
| 22:19.45 | peterS | humbolt: let's back up a bit. why would you _want_ to send that big of a ping packet? |
| 22:19.46 | SpeedEvil | slighly |
| 22:19.56 | humbolt | since 2 packs take twice the time for sure! |
| 22:20.00 | SpeedEvil | but only because you have to send two lots of ip hjeaders |
| 22:20.05 | SpeedEvil | humbolt: no, they don't |
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| 22:20.14 | humbolt | how big are the headers? |
| 22:20.18 | cheal | dpkg: forget broken.mplayer.may26 |
| 22:20.18 | dpkg | i forgot broken.mplayer.may26, cheal |
| 22:20.18 | GridCube | Hello |
| 22:20.19 | SpeedEvil | ~30 bytes |
| 22:20.45 | GridCube | how can I know wath cd haves a deteminated pakage????????????????????? |
| 22:20.46 | peterS | humbolt: ping is mainly about latency, not bandwidth. your bandwidth is 2048 bytes plus overhead, but your latency is about the same with any size of ping |
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| 22:21.13 | humbolt | peterS: does not look like that to me! |
| 22:21.17 | GridCube | I need postgres only and dont want to download all cds |
| 22:21.34 | SpeedEvil | humbolt: the network doesn't care what you think, only what it thinks |
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| 22:21.53 | SpeedEvil | There is with most nets not a per-packet additional latency |
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| 22:22.07 | SpeedEvil | there is a total time to send the packet, which depends on its overall size |
| 22:22.15 | SpeedEvil | plus a bit per packet |
| 22:22.22 | peterS | latency depends on bandwidth only when you run into window sizes, which isn't an issue with a 2048-byte ping packet |
| 22:22.47 | humbolt | what about traceroute with 2048 payload |
| 22:22.48 | SpeedEvil | fragmenting large packets is slighlty - but only slightly less efficient bandwidth wise than sending n smaller ones summing to the same amoubnt |
| 22:23.05 | SpeedEvil | humbolt: anything with a 2048 byte payload is usually fragmented |
| 22:23.22 | SpeedEvil | very, very little of the internet has mtu >1500 |
| 22:23.29 | peterS | traceroute can be accomplished several ways, you have to be more specific |
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| 22:25.47 | davidh | hello there |
| 22:26.54 | p40 | yes |
| 22:27.09 | davidh | To mount a USB drive, I type `mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/floppy`. Then following errors appear: VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev sd(8,1). What does it mean |
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| 22:27.34 | p40 | i never had this problem |
| 22:27.36 | SpeedEvil | there is no ext2 filesystem on /dev/sda1 |
| 22:27.55 | SpeedEvil | when did you format it? |
| 22:28.10 | davidh | SpeedEvil: The USB is windows format (NTFS?) |
| 22:28.23 | SpeedEvil | try adding -t vfat |
| 22:28.50 | davidh | SpeedEvil: But it need to complains about ext2? Because Linux is using ext2? |
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| 22:29.32 | davidh | SpeedEvil: does it mean that I am not able to write file from Linux machine to the USB? |
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| 22:29.56 | davidh | SpeedEvil: where do I add `-t vfat` |
| 22:30.07 | peterS | after the word 'mount' |
| 22:30.40 | SpeedEvil | davidh: it's trying to mount the drive as if it's linux format |
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| 22:30.54 | SpeedEvil | yes - you can usually write to usb drives formatted under windows, without problems |
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| 22:31.07 | SpeedEvil | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/whereever -t vfat |
| 22:31.28 | SpeedEvil | It assumes by default that you're mounting a linux filesystem |
| 22:31.32 | SpeedEvil | you have to tell it not |
| 22:31.36 | Eulex | !vfatrw |
| 22:31.36 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS, if you replace "vfat" with "ntfs" (although you can't currently easily _write_ to NTFS with Linux).. |
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| 22:32.03 | plazia | anyone know why my xorg server only starts in 640x480? |
| 22:32.28 | davidh | SpeedEvil: Still I have question. Am I able to read/write from Linux normally to/from the USB? |
| 22:32.30 | Eulex | davidh, -o defaults, uid=uid,gid=gid,umask=022 is recommended too |
| 22:32.37 | SpeedEvil | dav ys[[[[[ |
| 22:32.41 | SpeedEvil | davidh yes |
| 22:32.48 | Eulex | plazia, because you selected vga as X video driver? |
| 22:33.09 | plazia | Eulex, no it's set to savage which is the card in the laptop. s3 savage |
| 22:33.37 | SpeedEvil | plazia: it's confused as to the real card, and has defaulted to vga |
| 22:33.44 | davidh | SpeedEvil: I type your recommended command and this time it is clean. So the command is to tell to mount a vfat file system? |
| 22:33.49 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 22:34.04 | SpeedEvil | can you now see the files whererver you mounted the drive? |
| 22:34.04 | plazia | SpeedEvil, Eulex isn't there a command in x to see what vid driver it is using? |
| 22:34.10 | plazia | something like xpyinfo or something |
| 22:34.14 | SpeedEvil | plazia: look in the error log |
| 22:34.23 | plazia | SpeedEvil, I'm checking that on the terminal now. |
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| 22:34.26 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.32 | Eulex | plazia, yes, look in the error log. in /var/log/X |
| 22:34.49 | phanter | hello there, is it possible to start a script at the moment I mount a specific drive (external harddrive in this case) |
| 22:34.57 | SpeedEvil | phanter: yes |
| 22:34.59 | davidh | Eulex: I have very small kernel (500kb). There is one root user. I am not sure whether multiuser mode is installed |
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| 22:35.26 | davidh | Eulex: BTW, this is an embedded application on ARM 9 board |
| 22:35.26 | plazia | (--) SAVAGE(0): Chose mode 112 at 60Hz. |
| 22:35.31 | plazia | seems to be working with the savage driver |
| 22:35.33 | SpeedEvil | phanter: look at your logs to see what happens when you plug in the drive |
| 22:35.45 | dimitri | I don't understand, i want to zip a directory so I do zip [dir] and I got zip error: Nothing to do! (test.zip) |
| 22:35.49 | SpeedEvil | phanter: then look at the config for that program |
| 22:36.00 | dimitri | how do you zip a dir ? |
| 22:36.05 | SpeedEvil | dimitri: zip test.zip dir/ |
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| 22:36.05 | SpeedEvil | IIRC |
| 22:36.11 | dimitri | ah ok |
| 22:36.21 | Eulex | davidh, hmm, ok |
| 22:36.51 | _Brandon_ | hi, i have problem with sound artsd crash during kde startup and amarok crashes with this error relocation error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_rate_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
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| 22:37.08 | mage | heh if there is only one compartment compartmentalization doesn't matter |
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| 22:38.12 | davidh | Other question. When I boot up my debian machine, it complains a lot, like pcihcp can't be loaded; error loadding USBCORE, etc. The system seems functioning. But just irritating. Someone suggests to change plug and play file. I don't know how to change it. Any idea? I am using DELL P3 machine (PC) |
| 22:38.18 | kurumin | pessoal boa noite sei q isso nao tem nada haver mais vou pergunta mesmo assim |
| 22:38.25 | phanter | SpeedEvil, in which log should I have a look |
| 22:38.51 | mattt | davidh: yeah, i noticed that on my box too |
| 22:39.15 | davidh | Any Guru here can help? |
| 22:39.24 | Maulkin | !br |
| 22:39.24 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 22:39.35 | davidh | I think that this is probably a very common problem for PC |
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| 22:40.21 | mage | davidh: what sort of usbcore error? is it trying to load a module even though its builtin? |
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| 22:41.14 | davidh | mage: I have no idea. But I am using USB mouse. The mouse is working when it boots up |
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| 22:42.28 | davidh | SpeedEvil: Do you have any idea? See my post earlier? |
| 22:42.33 | pizze | hi good morning at all |
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| 22:43.03 | SpeedEvil | sorry - just came back, scrollin gback |
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| 22:43.10 | debiankid | hewllo everyone |
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| 22:43.18 | jerware | hi |
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| 22:43.32 | debiankid | i need a hand here redirecting packets from one computer to another any hand ? |
| 22:43.37 | jerware | /etc/init.d/vsftpd start; <----- refuses to start |
| 22:43.46 | mage | davidh: heh usb mouse can be done by some bios just so you know |
| 22:43.48 | SpeedEvil | davidh: Sorry - about what? |
| 22:43.56 | davidh | Other question. When I boot up my debian machine, it complains a lot, like pcihcp can't be loaded; error loadding USBCORE, etc. The system seems functioning. But just irritating. Someone suggests to change plug and play file. I don't know how to change it. Any idea? I am using DELL P3 machine (PC) |
| 22:44.25 | jerware | cd /etc/init.d ; ./vsftpd start <---refuses to start as well. |
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| 22:44.26 | jerware | stop | start too |
| 22:44.26 | jerware | why? |
| 22:44.35 | davidh | SpeedEvil: see my post above |
| 22:44.39 | SpeedEvil | Ok... |
| 22:44.43 | SpeedEvil | USB works? |
| 22:44.53 | vega- | jerware: nobody can help you unless you provide more detailed error message / log |
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| 22:45.09 | mage | SpeedEvil: he said his mouse works |
| 22:45.10 | davidh | SpeedEvil: I have two USB ports. Both works |
| 22:45.32 | SpeedEvil | Ok... If it works, leave it, it's probably harmless |
| 22:45.50 | SpeedEvil | If you want to know why you get those messages, then look through the boot scripts |
| 22:45.51 | davidh | SpeedEvil: I think that the problem here is not just USB. I got some other errors too. Like, pcihcp can't be loaded, etc |
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| 22:46.01 | SpeedEvil | and find out where the programs in question are called |
| 22:46.11 | SpeedEvil | and what they are supposed to do |
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| 22:46.23 | jerware | why is vsftpd refusing to start ? |
| 22:46.25 | debiankid | on channel #iptables no1 answer 2 me may i write what i need to do here and may be u guys can guive me a hand ? |
| 22:46.34 | loather | jerware: bad config file? |
| 22:46.38 | davidh | SpeedEvil: What file and path is the boot script reside, execuse me for the ignorance |
| 22:46.41 | loather | jerware: it could be any number of reasons |
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| 22:47.03 | phanter | where do I find the logfile that tells me which applicatoins are started when plugging in a device ? |
| 22:47.07 | davidh | SpeedEvil: Is this get something to do the plug-N-play? |
| 22:47.08 | SpeedEvil | davidh: sorry, I should probably actually use debian |
| 22:47.10 | jerware | loather: it was just workinng, then i restarted it after making uncommenting some changes to the config file |
| 22:47.21 | jerware | or at least attempted to restart it. |
| 22:47.22 | SpeedEvil | davidh: I actually came in here for some other reason |
| 22:47.40 | loather | jerware: make sure there aren't any stale processes hanging around. |
| 22:48.20 | jerware | loather: i tried ps aux | grep ftp ; and jobs | grep ftp and nothing relevent to the service is there |
| 22:48.24 | jerware | are there other places to look? |
| 22:48.31 | davidh | SpeedEvil: I am sorry, a little difficult to understand what you said |
| 22:48.39 | loather | /var/log/messages should have some clue as to why the server refuses to start |
| 22:48.40 | SpeedEvil | davidh: Ok, recap. |
| 22:48.46 | jerware | loather: thanx pal |
| 22:48.49 | loather | or maybe /var/log/daemon, i'm not sure about debian. |
| 22:48.58 | jerware | i'll look |
| 22:49.05 | SpeedEvil | davidh I don't actually use debian, I came in here for some other reason, so my advice is a bit generic |
| 22:49.16 | SpeedEvil | davidh: I'd look in /etc/rc.d/* |
| 22:49.21 | SpeedEvil | maybe man rc.d |
| 22:49.32 | davidh | SpeedEvil: Yes, the problem happens in my debian PC |
| 22:50.07 | davidh | SpeedEvil: The earlier problem I posted first time was on embedded Linux |
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| 22:51.04 | SpeedEvil | grep -r pcihcd /etc/ (or whatever) |
| 22:51.06 | SpeedEvil | may be of use |
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| 22:52.33 | mage | SpeedEvil: hahah rock on! I used to come in here and ask questions about the debian bits in knoppix |
| 22:53.10 | charzero | is there a debian guide to encrypted /home and swap ? |
| 22:53.42 | frosh68 | hi! i have an aopen dvd drive that behaves funny under debian (but not under win xp): when a dvd is inserted, i can mount it w/o any problem. when a cd is inserted, i cannot mount. |
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| 22:54.32 | sid | !tell frosh68 about logs |
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| 22:54.54 | rovragge | how can I restore fontconfig and Xorg font path settings and defoma and everything Xorg font related on my system to debian defaults? apt-get --reinstall or dpkg-reconfigure_ which packages ? |
| 22:55.13 | sid | rovragge: What version of debian? |
| 22:55.30 | rovragge | etch |
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| 22:55.53 | rovragge | eh unstable |
| 22:56.09 | sid | !tell rovragge about unstable |
| 22:56.12 | frosh68 | sid: ok. the /var/log/messages says: "May 28 00:46:41 dunix kernel: cdrom: open failed" |
| 22:56.18 | sid | !tell rovragge about fonts |
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| 22:56.23 | frosh68 | not much of an info |
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| 22:57.09 | jerware | loather: thanx, it was becuase i had the config file set to allow local accounts to log in with out have ftp accounts made (thinking the original shell accounts were the same). |
| 22:57.17 | jerware | therefor im sticking to anonymous ftp |
| 22:57.34 | sid | frosh68: What version of debian? |
| 22:57.39 | honschu | is there a good record/mixer programm for a music-band in debian? |
| 22:57.54 | sid | frosh68: What type of cd is it? |
| 22:58.10 | loather | jerware: yeah, vsftp can be a config nightmare sometimes. It's very configurable, but with flexibility comes complexity :D |
| 22:58.13 | sid | honschu: You ever use audacity? |
| 22:58.39 | honschu | sid: I want to record and play on the fly. |
| 22:58.44 | honschu | ardour maybe? |
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| 22:59.08 | sid | honschu: People at my linux users group did that...with all free software...not sure what it's called though |
| 22:59.20 | frosh68 | sid: i am running testing kernel 2.6.12-1-k7 |
| 22:59.40 | cshaman | Hello. |
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| 23:00.04 | honschu | sid: Ok, thx |
| 23:00.06 | frosh68 | sid: cd is burned by a friend, but it happens with bought audio as well |
| 23:00.17 | RetroJ | what is the correct way to change the window manager in debian? |
| 23:00.36 | crazy_penguin | good night everybody. pleasent dreams |
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| 23:00.55 | sid | frosh68: It's probably because your friends cd is cheap crappy media...but I am just guessing on that. |
| 23:00.57 | frosh68 | sid: when mounting by command line, the error says: no medium found |
| 23:01.05 | SpeedEvil | (00:00:06) frosh68: sid: cd is burned by a friend, but it happens with bought audio as |
| 23:01.13 | sid | frosh68: Also bought audio cds are _protected_ in some way. This could also be causing you problems. |
| 23:01.31 | SpeedEvil | Some bought audio CDs |
| 23:01.48 | frosh68 | sid: i am not trying to mount the audio, of course, but try to rip it. works under windows on same drive! |
| 23:01.53 | SpeedEvil | frosh68: you're not expecting to be able to mount |
| 23:01.54 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 23:01.56 | sid | RetroJ: How do you login? |
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| 23:02.02 | SpeedEvil | frosh68: cdparanoia? |
| 23:02.06 | SpeedEvil | or whatever, to rip |
| 23:02.18 | RetroJ | sid, atm I login via a kde gui dialog |
| 23:02.23 | frosh68 | speedevil: k3b, i think it uses cdparanoia |
| 23:02.34 | sid | RetroJ: What do you want to change to? |
| 23:02.40 | RetroJ | sid, ratpoison |
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| 23:03.06 | SpeedEvil | frosh68: what happens when you try to run cdparanoia over the device? |
| 23:03.13 | lanchow | i have a little problem with sdl, fatal : sdl parachute deployed, any idea on how to understand why ? |
| 23:03.15 | sid | RetroJ: Will you be using kde applications with ratpoison? ie pretty much any apps that start with k* |
| 23:03.16 | frosh68 | sid, speedevil: the funny part is, i can mount dvds, but not cds. no matter which cds. i can mount everything under win xp. |
| 23:03.26 | SpeedEvil | frosh68: does the CD have a phones socket on the front? |
| 23:03.28 | frosh68 | speedevil: wait a sec |
| 23:03.38 | frosh68 | speedevil: yep |
| 23:03.46 | RetroJ | sid, probably some |
| 23:04.02 | SpeedEvil | frosh68: does it play ok from that, wjhen you hit the front panel 'play' ? |
| 23:04.33 | frosh68 | speedevil: lemme get an audio cd. |
| 23:04.50 | SpeedEvil | That'll tell you if the drive is physically recognising the CD |
| 23:04.50 | sid | RetroJ: So just go to "sessions" in your login screen and change the default to ratpoison. |
| 23:04.50 | SpeedEvil | which helps at least |
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| 23:04.57 | RetroJ | sid, ok, thank you |
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| 23:06.19 | frosh68 | speedevil: does not play |
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| 23:06.40 | SpeedEvil | Right... |
| 23:06.54 | SpeedEvil | Either in that case, your drive is doing something funky and needs drivers |
| 23:06.57 | SpeedEvil | or it's broken |
| 23:07.11 | SpeedEvil | 99.999% of drives will output audio if you hit the 'play' button |
| 23:07.22 | SpeedEvil | IME |
| 23:07.25 | frosh68 | hm, sad news |
| 23:07.26 | SpeedEvil | YCDMV |
| 23:08.00 | frosh68 | will do some more testing with windooze |
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| 23:08.43 | frosh68 | speedevil, sid: thanx sofar! |
| 23:08.53 | SpeedEvil | Good luck |
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| 23:09.01 | frosh68 | ;-) |
| 23:09.04 | lmh | hi all |
| 23:09.15 | SpeedEvil | Hello lmh. |
| 23:09.15 | lmh | have a big problem with a fs remounted ro |
| 23:09.18 | RetroJ | sid, ratpoison was not in the session menu. there was an item called `custom' but when I tried that I got a message that it was not a valid X Session. |
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| 23:09.35 | SpeedEvil | lmh: it remounted itself ro? |
| 23:09.36 | lmh | it remounted the /dev/hda2 disk (mountpoint / , fs ext3) as read only. Can't imagine why. probably disk error, |
| 23:09.42 | SpeedEvil | probably. |
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| 23:09.47 | SpeedEvil | Have you backed it up yet? |
| 23:10.17 | lmh | SpeedEvil, partly |
| 23:10.19 | lmh | now i would like to remount it rw, but mount / -o remount,rw doesn't help |
| 23:10.30 | SpeedEvil | finish backing it up |
| 23:10.41 | lmh | mount: block device /dev/hda2 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 23:10.52 | SpeedEvil | I'm pretty sure that's a compile time option |
| 23:10.57 | SpeedEvil | what it does on errors |
| 23:11.01 | lmh | how can i back up all the / - partition? |
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| 23:11.13 | SpeedEvil | lmh: do you have spare disk space on another disk? |
| 23:11.27 | loather | dump! |
| 23:11.32 | lmh | SpeedEvil: no, but on another partition and over the net |
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| 23:11.55 | SpeedEvil | lmh: If the disk is failing, you really want hte data off it now |
| 23:12.05 | lmh | an idea how? |
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| 23:12.06 | SpeedEvil | smartctl /dev/hda |
| 23:12.15 | SpeedEvil | or whatever your hard disk is |
| 23:12.19 | loverboy | hello |
| 23:12.24 | SpeedEvil | may tell you if it thinks it's gonna fail |
| 23:12.25 | loverboy | can someon help me |
| 23:12.36 | lmh | SpeedEvil: the biggest probs: |
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| 23:12.43 | loverboy | ? |
| 23:12.56 | SpeedEvil | I mean smartctl -H /dev/hda |
| 23:12.58 | lmh | a) it's part of my thesis for university, have to give it in monday |
| 23:13.22 | SpeedEvil | lmh: Ok, so copy your thesis off now onto some other media |
| 23:13.27 | SpeedEvil | otehrwise you may lose it |
| 23:13.27 | lmh | b) it's with SuSE, because my prof didn't want debian |
| 23:13.38 | loather | put it on a floppy if you have to :D |
| 23:13.42 | SpeedEvil | how big is this thesis data? |
| 23:13.43 | neoxan | helllo |
| 23:13.48 | blondie | don't rely on floppy disks EVER |
| 23:13.49 | neoxan | iam using ubuntu debain linux |
| 23:13.54 | neoxan | how to use debian? |
| 23:13.55 | lmh | SpeedEvil: no, the system-configuration with a prog i wrote is my thesis |
| 23:13.57 | blondie | neoxan: ubuntu isn't debian |
| 23:13.58 | neoxan | if you put suse there |
| 23:14.01 | neoxan | but i had it |
| 23:14.03 | neoxan | bevore |
| 23:14.08 | neoxan | but i dont like |
| 23:14.09 | SpeedEvil | lmh: So back up whatever you've done |
| 23:14.10 | neoxan | that |
| 23:14.12 | loverboy | hellou i'm beginer and cant set my monitor (refresh rate) can someone help me with this problem pls???? |
| 23:14.14 | neoxan | when i got back |
| 23:14.16 | neoxan | to ubuntu |
| 23:14.21 | neoxan | but not yet |
| 23:14.23 | neoxan | finished |
| 23:14.30 | blondie | neoxan: please learn the difference between your space bar and enter key |
| 23:14.32 | neoxan | to how to put it threre? |
| 23:14.37 | SpeedEvil | lmh: If the drive is falling over, you really, really want to get the data off it, copied onto some other media |
| 23:14.49 | neoxan | what mean blondie? |
| 23:14.51 | SpeedEvil | before investigating how to mount it rw |
| 23:14.53 | loverboy | enyone??? |
| 23:14.53 | lmh | I already did that for my prog and the db |
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| 23:15.10 | SpeedEvil | Ok, then you may need to reboot |
| 23:15.17 | SpeedEvil | to get it to e2fsck, and come back |
| 23:15.20 | lmh | but how can i grab the 1,7 GB System off there |
| 23:15.21 | SpeedEvil | e2fsck |
| 23:15.22 | blondie | neoxan: write more on one line instead of writing 50 lines per sentence |
| 23:15.23 | sid | neoxan: Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net |
| 23:15.30 | SpeedEvil | what do you mean how can you grab the systme |
| 23:15.34 | sid | neoxan: /join #debian.de |
| 23:16.01 | SpeedEvil | cp -Rx / /mnt/sparefilesystem |
| 23:16.10 | SpeedEvil | will copy all of the stuff in the root over I believe. |
| 23:16.12 | blondie | sid: do they use enter instead of space in germany? |
| 23:16.47 | frosh68 | or do they enter space? |
| 23:16.47 | loather | you probably want to use something like rsync instead which preserves file permissions and times |
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| 23:16.49 | neoxan | danke sid |
| 23:17.01 | lmh | SpeedEvil: i uttered an e2fsck -vn /dev/hda2 |
| 23:17.08 | pizze | Do you know somebody channel debian in spanish ? |
| 23:17.18 | loverboy | hellou i'm beginer and cant set my monitor (refresh rate) can someone help me with this problem pls???? |
| 23:17.23 | SpeedEvil | lmh: checking a running filesystem is a bad idea |
| 23:17.32 | SpeedEvil | lmh: it should _never_ be remounted rw then |
| 23:17.40 | lmh | but with -vn??? |
| 23:17.42 | SpeedEvil | lmh: as the kernel may be confused |
| 23:17.47 | SpeedEvil | oh right |
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| 23:18.00 | lmh | SpeedEvil: the HDD was quite loud |
| 23:18.01 | loather | rsync -rpltogvvx / /path/to/sparefs |
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| 23:18.08 | SpeedEvil | well - -vn won't actually do anythng |
| 23:18.16 | SpeedEvil | Or cp -RpvX |
| 23:18.21 | SpeedEvil | IIRC |
| 23:18.52 | loather | small x |
| 23:18.56 | SpeedEvil | And of course this is why you backup things everyone. |
| 23:19.07 | lmh | But it told me Error reading block 229467 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while doing inode scan |
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| 23:19.28 | SpeedEvil | lmh: copy what you want off |
| 23:19.33 | wlvs | hi, I've been getting pretty weird problems with ssh, on my windows computer I can ssh into my friends server, but on Linux I can't. I am going through a router, which I am guessing is the root of the problems, any suggestions? |
| 23:19.41 | SpeedEvil | in the knowledge that the filesystem or disk may not exist when you reboot |
| 23:19.46 | SpeedEvil | reboot, and e2fsck |
| 23:19.46 | loather | yeah, get your shit off the disk, then put that disk in the trash :( |
| 23:19.52 | pizze | bye thanks at all |
| 23:19.56 | SpeedEvil | smartctl may tell you if the drive is dead |
| 23:20.24 | loverboy | hellou i'm beginer and cant set my monitor (refresh rate) can someone help me with this problem pls???? |
| 23:20.25 | SpeedEvil | wlvs: fail messages on linux? |
| 23:20.43 | wlvs | speedevil: none, it just hangs after the password is typed in |
| 23:20.53 | sid | !tell loverboy about repeat |
| 23:20.58 | lmh | f**k |
| 23:20.58 | sid | !tell loverboy about drxx |
| 23:21.04 | SpeedEvil | wlvs: ssh -v |
| 23:21.13 | SpeedEvil | may spit out more messages as to why it's failing |
| 23:21.23 | SpeedEvil | wlvs: also - look in syslog of remote box if you can |
| 23:21.30 | SpeedEvil | see if it's not letting you in |
| 23:21.35 | _rene_ | !kick sid |
| 23:21.38 | SpeedEvil | _usually_ if it connects at all |
| 23:21.38 | loverboy | sid i try but nothing |
| 23:21.51 | SpeedEvil | then it's not router problems |
| 23:22.15 | loverboy | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 cant help still god 59 mhz? |
| 23:22.20 | wlvs | SpeedEvil: it also happens for my friend's trying to ssh in, it just hangs, in my logs it says that the sesion was opened, but then it hangs |
| 23:22.31 | lmh | SpeedEvil: how can I grab the sys over the LAN? |
| 23:22.43 | SpeedEvil | lmh: man rsync |
| 23:22.46 | lmh | scp -??? 192.168.1.111 |
| 23:22.56 | loather | lmh: you really want to use rsync in that case |
| 23:23.01 | loather | rsync can do transport over ssh |
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| 23:23.15 | blondz | loverboy: if you know your values for vertical/horizontal, just put them in xorg.xonf |
| 23:23.15 | sn00p | How do I install flashplugin for firefox using nonfree package? |
| 23:23.16 | lmh | loather, ok, why is that better? |
| 23:23.27 | SpeedEvil | wlvs: ok - investigate anything in /etc/profile or similar that may freeze |
| 23:23.36 | lmh | loather: scp also ssh? |
| 23:23.41 | loverboy | ima neko da pricha srpski? |
| 23:23.44 | SpeedEvil | lmh: because scp may not do device files well |
| 23:23.50 | loather | from the remote machine: rsync -rpltogvvx username@machine:/ /path/on/local/machine |
| 23:23.52 | sid | sn00p: You should be able to just go to a flash website with firefox and click on the plugin box and it will give you a dialogue to install it. |
| 23:24.19 | loverboy | blondz i did and nothing |
| 23:24.25 | p40 | anyone know if the sonyericsson k608i is compatible gnu/linux |
| 23:24.27 | sn00p | sid: i'm using debian |
| 23:24.30 | p40 | awaiting for a reply.... thanks to all |
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| 23:24.33 | loather | lmh: 'cause rsync does intelligent blocking and stuff, it's designed for synchronizing filesystems across the network |
| 23:24.44 | loverboy | over and over is 59mhz, samsung 997mb 30-96 50-160 |
| 23:25.22 | sn00p | sid that is weird |
| 23:25.27 | wlvs | SpeedEvil: I can't see anything, I think it hangs right after the authentication, and it is saying port 1483, so does ssh switch ports after the connection is made? |
| 23:25.28 | blondz | loverboy: what's it say in your xorg.conf? |
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| 23:25.30 | sn00p | sid any other linux it dont work |
| 23:25.50 | jerware | sn00p: do you listen to snoop dog ? |
| 23:25.55 | loverboy | can i paste u on pvt? |
| 23:26.11 | sid | !tell loverboy about paste |
| 23:26.12 | Ronin | loverboy: pastebin.com or paster most likely is fine |
| 23:26.13 | blondz | loverboy: go ahead |
| 23:26.13 | sn00p | jerware use to hes on new ice cube album |
| 23:26.27 | lmh | loather: thanks, it's running and that quite loud |
| 23:26.27 | p40 | anyone know if the sonyericsson k608i is compatible gnu/linux |
| 23:26.30 | p40 | awaiting for a reply.... thanks to all |
| 23:26.32 | jerware | sn00p: ever see his doggy style movie xD |
| 23:26.44 | sid | p40: yea...it will work. Except not the hot keys probably. |
| 23:26.50 | sn00p | jerware funny |
| 23:26.55 | loather | lmh: that only backs up the / partition -- any other partitions on the disk will have to be copied as well. |
| 23:27.00 | sid | p40: It depends on each specific hardware version though. But most likely it will be fine. |
| 23:27.20 | sid | p40: generally laptops from IBM/Lenovo are the best for linux hands down. |
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| 23:27.25 | dhuv | hello all |
| 23:27.49 | p40 | i have not a laptop |
| 23:27.52 | sid | !greet dhuv |
| 23:27.52 | dpkg | Hello, dhuv |
| 23:28.07 | sid | p40: o, A sony ericson is what? |
| 23:28.11 | sid | a phone or some pda or something? |
| 23:28.24 | p40 | cellular phone |
| 23:28.50 | p40 | an umts |
| 23:29.43 | p40 | i done any photos with the phone about my linksys a would download from the cellular phone and put on the pc |
| 23:30.18 | loverboy | yo blondz? |
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| 23:30.54 | p40 | i unmount the linksys wrt54g and so i decided to do any photos |
| 23:30.55 | dds | hey |
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| 23:31.13 | dds | how can i change the boot list and defualt boot in grub |
| 23:31.24 | sid | dds: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:31.41 | p40 | than i have to do any photos about connectors TNC mounted on the antennas for linksys |
| 23:31.48 | dds | sid, thx |
| 23:31.50 | sid | dds: Change the "default" value to whatever line in grub you want to boot by default. |
| 23:31.57 | loverboy | hellou i'm beginer and cant set my monitor (refresh rate) can someone help me, i try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 cant help still god 59 mhz? |
| 23:32.05 | blondz | loverboy: hang on, been a while since i used irc. how about pastebin.com? |
| 23:32.08 | dds | another qick question how can i see my hardware |
| 23:32.08 | sid | dds: ie if the third line that shows up in grub in windows xp...and you want to boot that...Your line would be "default 3" |
| 23:32.26 | sid | dds: lspci; cat /proc/cpuinfo; cat /proc/meminfo; |
| 23:32.33 | jerware | i want to learn how to set mx records with dns, with minimal knowlege of email. what email services should i have to learn? |
| 23:32.36 | p40 | it' necessary break the cover and unmount from the cable from the connector TNC and sold one more long |
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| 23:32.44 | Ronin | jerware: all of it |
| 23:33.03 | sid | k/msg dpkg dns |
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| 23:33.06 | jerware | Ronin: both smtp and POP3? |
| 23:33.27 | sid | jerware: /join #dns |
| 23:33.36 | jerware | ok |
| 23:33.50 | loverboy | blondz i send it on pastebin.com |
| 23:34.09 | blondz | loverboy: just seen it |
| 23:34.17 | linus__^ | i've just installed debian 3.1r2 and ACPI doesn't work, why? |
| 23:34.34 | p40 | ah, i give you the limits necessary for the frequencies : http://www.oltrelinux.com/forums/read.php?f=648&i=11&t=11 |
| 23:34.37 | linus__^ | kacpid takes 20% of cpu, and i can't use my debian |
| 23:34.37 | linus__^ | :( |
| 23:35.18 | p40 | http://www.oltrelinux.com/forums/read.php?f=648&i=9&t=9 |
| 23:35.52 | p40 | and these last one http is about the antennas |
| 23:36.16 | blondz | loverboy: this may sound silly, but have you tried putting "30.0 - 96.0" and "50.0 -160.0"? |
| 23:36.27 | loverboy | yes :(( |
| 23:36.40 | loverboy | i try olmoust everithing |
| 23:36.59 | blondz | loverboy: where does it say you are getting 59, then? |
| 23:37.12 | loverboy | on the monitor menu |
| 23:37.16 | loather | loverboy: what video adapter do you have? |
| 23:37.22 | loverboy | ati 9250 |
| 23:37.26 | jerware | whats a respectable program that implements smtp server? |
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| 23:37.37 | loather | jerware: postfix. |
| 23:37.38 | jerware | where apache is to httpd, what is to smtp? |
| 23:37.42 | jerware | ahh thanx loather |
| 23:37.56 | loather | there is also exim, sendmail, and countless others |
| 23:38.05 | loather | postfix is my favourite. |
| 23:38.07 | jerware | i just want minimal knowlege of postfix to learn setting up MX records |
| 23:38.43 | loverboy | i have modeline but i dont know where to put it? beatveen what rows? |
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| 23:39.25 | zero-1 | how can I install monodevelop on debian 3.1 sarge? |
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| 23:39.37 | loather | loverboy: are you using ATIs proprietary drivers or the opensource ATI drivers? |
| 23:39.43 | loverboy | no |
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| 23:40.35 | lmh | loather: any idea, how i backup 10 gigs from the second hdd i just copied all the stuff to? |
| 23:40.37 | loverboy | u think that can help? |
| 23:41.09 | loather | loverboy: it could be the EDID fucking with you, you might tell the board to ignore it. Something like 'Options "IgnoreEDID" "True"' in xorg.conf under the Monitor section, if I remember right |
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| 23:41.37 | p40 | about ATI look here http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html |
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| 23:41.49 | loather | lmh: depends on to what you choose to back it up. |
| 23:42.07 | loverboy | thnks i will try..any more ideas? :/ |
| 23:42.17 | Supaplex | !lart efnet ircd's |
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| 23:42.40 | blondz | loverboy: have you tried running Xorg -config <your_conffile> to make sure it's being used? |
| 23:43.05 | loverboy | yes i am and do a checksum md5 |
| 23:43.35 | loather | loverboy: look in 'man radeon' -- it has a lot of information to help control the radeon. |
| 23:43.48 | loather | you could try various settings in that. |
| 23:43.55 | zero-1 | how can I install monodevelop on debian 3.1 sarge? |
| 23:43.59 | loather | also make sure your display is set to 640x480 only for testing |
| 23:44.20 | loather | once you actually get something to display, then you can jack with the resolutions. |
| 23:44.23 | lmh | loather: smartctl -H /dev/hda shows me a PASSED |
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| 23:44.45 | Nicky | how do i start he cups server ? |
| 23:44.50 | loverboy | ok thnks one more qestion - whats file is changed xf86config or xf86config-4 when i try xf86config? |
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| 23:45.03 | loverboy | or bouth? |
| 23:45.04 | loather | lmh: it could have just been a bad block on the disk, but where there's one bad block, there's typically more |
| 23:47.16 | loather | loverboy: i'm not sure under debian -- i would assume probably XF86Config-4, since it'd be totally archaic to be running XFree 3.x now. |
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| 23:47.32 | sn00p | anybody got an mlb.tv account and got it to work in linux? |
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| 23:47.42 | davidh | Hello, need help. |
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| 23:47.58 | Schiz0 | I'm planning the partitioning scheme of my system....and I'm wondering how big the /var dir gets too? What would be a good sized partition to make it? |
| 23:48.02 | loverboy | ok thanks people :) |
| 23:48.13 | loverboy | greatings from serbia ;) |
| 23:48.14 | jetscreamer | hey so wtf when it comes to linux-images -386 has changed to -486? |
| 23:48.15 | Schiz0 | I wannta make it a partition so I don't have the logs in /var/log taking over my harddrive |
| 23:48.20 | Sebboh | I'm having trouble viewing information about a virtual package. What gives? Can't I apt-cache show a virtual package? |
| 23:48.54 | jetscreamer | is that like a metapackage? |
| 23:49.01 | Sebboh | Uh, maybe. |
| 23:49.02 | _rene_ | Sebboh: right |
| 23:49.14 | _rene_ | Sebboh: you can't apt-cache show a virtual package |
| 23:49.19 | jetscreamer | you can see what the metapackage depends on |
| 23:49.19 | Sebboh | Rene, how then? The package in question is ident-server. |
| 23:49.21 | davidh | When I try to re-compile kernel 2.4.21 downloaded from web, and try to runedude make menuconfig`, the following error appears: >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. |
| 23:49.21 | davidh | >> |
| 23:49.21 | davidh | >> You must have Ncurses installed in order |
| 23:49.21 | davidh | >> to use 'make menuconfig' |
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| 23:49.32 | Sebboh | jet, that's what I want. |
| 23:49.38 | _rene_ | Sebboh: why do you want to? |
| 23:49.40 | loather | Schiz0: depends on what you choose to do with the system. I typically make /var between 2 and 4 gigabyte in size |
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| 23:50.04 | Sebboh | rene, Why do you want to know? =) I want to see a list of possible ident-servers, if you must know. |
| 23:50.08 | Schiz0 | loather: It's gonna be a dedicated mysql/http/irc/email server |
| 23:50.21 | Sebboh | Rene, is that an acceptable use of my computer? =P |
| 23:50.28 | _rene_ | Sebboh: grep-available -FProvides ident-server -sPackage |
| 23:50.42 | Sebboh | Hm, thanks! |
| 23:50.42 | _Brandon_ | could anyone help me with a problem with xine engine? |
| 23:50.53 | jetscreamer | !ask |
| 23:50.53 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 23:51.02 | jetscreamer | !anybody |
| 23:51.02 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use <someprogram>?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 23:51.08 | Sebboh | what is grep-available? I don't have that. |
| 23:51.17 | loather | Schiz0: i'd make the base /var 4gbyte in size, then make partitions each for mysql database files, and web data files. |
| 23:51.25 | _Brandon_ | i have asked before but noone responded :D |
| 23:51.31 | jetscreamer | ask |
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| 23:51.38 | jetscreamer | also run xine-check |
| 23:51.42 | davidh | hello |
| 23:51.52 | jetscreamer | davidh apt-get install libncurses5-dev build-essential |
| 23:52.03 | jetscreamer | !tell davidh -about paste |
| 23:52.59 | jetscreamer | _Brandon_: you have yet to ask something afaict |
| 23:53.06 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 23:53.06 | dpkg | No, jetscreamer, you're not online any more. |
| 23:53.08 | jetscreamer | coo |
| 23:53.13 | jetscreamer | !botsnack |
| 23:53.13 | dpkg | :), jetscreamer |
| 23:53.22 | Sebboh | _rene_, I don't have grep-available installed. ..I could get it, but, is there another way? |
| 23:53.31 | davidh | jetscreamer: I found libncurses5. What is dev build-essential? |
| 23:53.40 | jetscreamer | !b-e |
| 23:53.40 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 23:53.48 | jetscreamer | just in case |
| 23:53.55 | jetscreamer | and it's -dev |
| 23:54.00 | jetscreamer | on the curses |
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| 23:54.13 | _Brandon_ | jetscreamer: i have asked it 30 minutes ago :) anyway the problem is this relocation error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so: symbol snd_pcm_hw_params_set_rate_near, version ALSA_0.9.0rc4 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
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| 23:54.42 | jetscreamer | _Brandon_: run xine-check but that's beyond me. try #xine also maybe |
| 23:54.57 | jetscreamer | davidh: it's libncurses5-dev |
| 23:55.50 | jetscreamer | it's the sunday prequel |
| 23:55.53 | davidh | jetscreamer: 5.4-4? |
| 23:56.16 | jetscreamer | davidh: whatever version apt-get finds |
| 23:56.26 | jetscreamer | as long as you did apt-get update first |
| 23:56.31 | jetscreamer | or aptitude or whatever |
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| 23:56.45 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 23:56.45 | dpkg | tetrinet is probably multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
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| 23:57.06 | aluno102 | oi |
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| 23:57.44 | aluno101 | oi tudo |
| 23:57.46 | jetscreamer | !tet-tri-nut |
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| 23:57.52 | _rene_ | Sebboh: no. |
| 23:58.02 | aluno102 | oi jhony tudo bem |
| 23:58.12 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 23:58.12 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 23:58.14 | jetscreamer | !es |
| 23:58.15 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:58.17 | jetscreamer | !it |
| 23:58.17 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 23:58.22 | aluno102 | falaa seu bichinha |
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| 23:58.36 | jetscreamer | aluno101: language? |
| 23:59.10 | jetscreamer | !language |
| 23:59.10 | aluno101 | oidodobem |
| 23:59.10 | dpkg | [language] a wonderful fucking thing that should be used properly. Every time you hurt grammar, a knoppix user joins. to the scientists language is god |
| 23:59.17 | aluno102 | seu bichinhas |
| 23:59.20 | jetscreamer | boo |
| 23:59.24 | jetscreamer | aluno101: ? |
| 23:59.29 | jetscreamer | !en |
| 23:59.51 | jetscreamer | !en |
| 23:59.52 | dpkg | english |
