| 00:01.09 | nekostar | is there a force install for apt option ? |
| 00:01.11 | beardy | Freedoms_a_joke: Imagine everyone acting like you, if you are able. |
| 00:01.11 | Freedoms_a_joke | im not even acting up |
| 00:01.11 | Dwonis | meriad: also, I noticed that your TTLs are *not* an hour |
| 00:01.11 | Dwonis | meriad: 3600 is an hour |
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| 00:01.13 | Freedoms_a_joke | imagine everyone acting like you.. |
| 00:01.13 | beardy | Freedoms_a_joke: A free hint is, do as we say. |
| 00:01.13 | meriad | Dwonis- oh wait 69.90.194.254 is our firewall |
| 00:01.13 | widrone | Freedoms_a_joke: Feel free to read up on the mount manpage, try "man mount". |
| 00:01.13 | meriad | Dwonis- not our dns server sorry |
| 00:01.17 | meriad | Dwonis- firewall and dhcp server |
| 00:01.17 | Freedoms_a_joke | a free hit... eat some pussy and get off the computer |
| 00:01.18 | Dwonis | meriad: well that's the server that you're querying, and it's probably the server that needs to have its cache flushed |
| 00:01.18 | meriad | Dwonis- and the TTL is 3 hours my bad |
| 00:01.18 | Freedoms_a_joke | vidrone, thanks |
| 00:01.19 | Kisanth | can someone help me troubleshoot sound issues? Im unable to hear sound wtih a user, but it works for root. the user is a member of the audio group and /dev/dsp is owned by the audio group. I dont know what else it could be |
| 00:01.22 | meriad | Dwonis- how do I do that |
| 00:01.22 | Dwonis | meriad: no idea |
| 00:01.27 | Dwonis | meriad: it depends on the server, what access you have, etc |
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| 00:01.28 | Freedoms_a_joke | blondie, thanks for your help |
| 00:01.29 | Dwonis | meriad: or you could just wait 4645 seconds (1h17m, roughly) and it'll flush itself |
| 00:01.29 | magyar | i got a problem with lilo. If i place anything into the "append" menu, the system doesnt boot |
| 00:01.29 | Dwonis | meriad: of course, that's assuming that the TTL is the problem |
| 00:01.29 | meriad | Dwonis- im the sys admin here |
| 00:01.30 | Dwonis | meriad: I assume it hasn't yet been 3 hours since you made the change(s), correct? |
| 00:01.30 | meriad | Dwonis- i have axs to everything |
| 00:01.33 | meriad | Dwonis- no |
| 00:01.41 | blondie | axs is not a word :P |
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| 00:01.42 | beardy | sure it is OMFGLOL |
| 00:01.42 | Dwonis | meriad: one moment while I haxs your machine, then... |
| 00:01.43 | beardy | fucktards.. |
| 00:01.44 | meriad | Dwonis- haha |
| 00:01.45 | meriad | Dwonis- :) |
| 00:01.48 | Freedoms_a_joke | look in the mirror beardy |
| 00:01.49 | meriad | Dwonis- could you please jsut tell me how to flush the dns |
| 00:01.59 | meriad | Dwonis- would restarting the dhcp serevr do the trick? |
| 00:02.01 | Freedoms_a_joke | your the only one that seems to be a pain in the ass |
| 00:02.03 | Dwonis | meriad: what part of "it depends" don't you get? |
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| 00:02.14 | Dwonis | meriad: Is the box running BIND? |
| 00:02.15 | meriad | Dwonis- what does it depend on then |
| 00:02.23 | meriad | Dwonis- yes |
| 00:02.34 | Dwonis | meriad: then I think you just need to restart BIND on that machine |
| 00:02.49 | meriad | i just did |
| 00:02.51 | meriad | and i ran flush |
| 00:03.08 | meriad | nadda :| |
| 00:03.11 | meriad | THERE WE GO |
| 00:03.12 | meriad | woohoo |
| 00:03.27 | meriad | worke |
| 00:04.21 | Freedoms_a_joke | well i cant understand the man page for mount its written to complex |
| 00:04.33 | Freedoms_a_joke | laugh at the newbie everyone |
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| 00:05.10 | simonrvn | your spelling's a joke too |
| 00:05.20 | widrone | Freedoms_a_joke: mount device *mountpoint*, device is the /dev/sda1 (maybe) and mountpoint is a directory where you want it. |
| 00:05.29 | dondelelcaro | Freedoms_a_joke: if you're having problems, ask a questions about the manpage. |
| 00:06.03 | Freedoms_a_joke | simonrvn, my spelling is fine. |
| 00:06.03 | sparr | Is there any program that will stress test my hard drive[ controller]s and tell me which one is defective before (or after, via a logfile) my machine hard locks? |
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| 00:06.07 | dondelelcaro | Freedoms_a_joke: if you can't do that yet, then you're asking for help that's beyond what this channel can provide. Take a course or find a book which will introduce you to unix |
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| 00:06.18 | dondelelcaro | sparr: bonnie++ or similar should do that |
| 00:06.28 | widrone | Freedoms_a_joke: So the "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" lets you get you cfcard files in the /mnt dir, but dont use that directory...like others said. |
| 00:06.38 | nekostar | well thanx anywayz guys |
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| 00:06.47 | nekostar | im gonna have to do an os wipe it seems !_! |
| 00:07.01 | dondelelcaro | nekostar: no, you just need to fix that programs postrm |
| 00:07.17 | sparr | dondelelcaro: last time i looked at that program it required reading 40 pages of docs before being able to try using it. im not lazy, but thats no good for me |
| 00:07.19 | nekostar | dondelelcaro, i dont wanna upgrade the whole server to unstable is the thing. |
| 00:07.26 | sparr | ok, im not TOO lazy |
| 00:07.27 | dondelelcaro | nekostar: so? |
| 00:07.36 | nekostar | so i cant fix that package any other way it seems. |
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| 00:07.43 | Freedoms_a_joke | vidrone, thanks for your help..ill just take a class.. thats why windows works.. cause it works.. linux will never take off due to reasons like this |
| 00:07.44 | Dwonis | !upgrade unstable |
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| 00:08.03 | thingfish | haha linux "took off" long ago. |
| 00:08.03 | nekostar | ive tried installing // reinstalling // uninstalling via apt / dpkg / dsomethingorother i think dselect |
| 00:08.06 | dondelelcaro | nekostar: you can fix it by fixing torrentflux's postrm script. |
| 00:08.12 | Freedoms_a_joke | ha ha your wrong |
| 00:08.16 | nekostar | ic |
| 00:08.17 | sparr | Freedoms_a_joke: funny you should mention that. you need a mac. everything that makes windows better than linux also makes mac better than windows, with the sole exception of gaming. |
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| 00:08.22 | rutski89 | where I can find ndbm.h? |
| 00:08.25 | sparr | windows is the sad middle ground |
| 00:08.27 | sparr | not easy enough to use |
| 00:08.31 | sparr | not powerful enough to work with |
| 00:08.35 | Freedoms_a_joke | sparr, very true |
| 00:08.59 | widrone | The debian install manual 2.5 (disk space req.) lists 110MB needed but also says 250MB req. for minimal console-based system. What does that really mean then? |
| 00:09.01 | rutski89 | (and no, it's not these two that I'm looking for http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=ndbm.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386) |
| 00:09.03 | Freedoms_a_joke | but you dont have to take a class to make a drive work |
| 00:09.04 | dondelelcaro | nekostar: unpack the torrentflux deb using dpkg-deb -x torrentflux*.deb ; dpkg-deb -e torrentflux*.deb tmp/DEBIAN: fix the postrm by making it just exit 0; and then repack it. |
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| 00:09.17 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:09.22 | thingfish | *plonk* |
| 00:09.24 | nekostar | o |
| 00:09.30 | nekostar | ic dondelelcaro |
| 00:09.32 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: compile mod_ssl |
| 00:09.33 | magyar | anyone using lilo? |
| 00:09.36 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro, nekostar: you can usually just edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postrm, I think |
| 00:09.37 | dondelelcaro | Freedoms_a_joke: we're here to help people; if you don't want to use Linux, that's fine. |
| 00:09.38 | sparr | widrone: in 110MB you can get "debian linux". in 250MB you can get an actual useful system :) |
| 00:09.41 | beardy | magyar: Yes. |
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| 00:09.49 | Freedoms_a_joke | well your not helping me |
| 00:09.51 | dondelelcaro | Dwonis: not in this case, because it's the postrm of the version which is being installed, apparently. |
| 00:10.01 | Dwonis | dondelelcaro: ah |
| 00:10.03 | Freedoms_a_joke | your giving me a bunch of commands that dont work |
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| 00:10.16 | magyar | beardy: have you ever experienced a problem with "append" statment? |
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| 00:10.45 | widrone | sparr: Ok, so the 250 is sort of a usefull ballpark estimate. And 110 is what I should end on after a install I guess. Thanks. |
| 00:10.46 | dondelelcaro | Freedoms_a_joke: let me know when you're ready to play an active role in helping yourself. |
| 00:10.47 | ricky_clarkson | yaird, initramfs-tools, linux-initramfs-tool - which of these is easiest and works (installing backports on sarge)? |
| 00:10.48 | beardy | magyar: (/msg dpkg anyone) What happens with your append? |
| 00:11.10 | rolo | how do i mount my usb ext drive ? |
| 00:11.21 | beardy | magyar: What are you appending, please paste the whole append line. |
| 00:11.26 | dondelelcaro | rolo: check dmesg; to see where the usb external drive is, then mount /dev/foo /mnt/bar; |
| 00:11.28 | rolo | or what i need to write on fstab |
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| 00:11.34 | rolo | ok |
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| 00:11.46 | beardy | rolo: /msg dpkg usbstorage |
| 00:12.00 | falco_toadfoot | hello, can anyone tell me how to install DRDB in debian stable? |
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| 00:12.16 | magyar | beardy: if i place anything in the append like "append="apm=power-off" or append="hda=ide-scsi" it wont boot |
| 00:12.19 | falco_toadfoot | it's not in the standard package repositories as far as I can tell |
| 00:12.31 | widrone | Freedoms_a_joke: You should try the tip rolo got too if youre stuck. |
| 00:12.32 | dondelelcaro | falco_toadfoot: what is drdb? |
| 00:13.00 | falco_toadfoot | "DRBD is a block device which is designed to build high availability clusters. This is done by mirroring a whole block device via (a dedicated) network. You could see it as a network raid-1." |
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| 00:13.16 | rolo | beardy: |
| 00:13.22 | falco_toadfoot | dondelelcaro: http://www.drbd.org/ |
| 00:13.23 | rolo | is this what i am looking for on dmesg ? usb 3-1: new high speed USB device using address 4 |
| 00:13.23 | rolo | usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage |
| 00:13.32 | rolo | i did a dmesg |grep usb |
| 00:13.43 | dondelelcaro | falco_toadfoot: yeah, so it's a kernel module, right? |
| 00:13.54 | beardy | rolo: do just a 'dmesg' what you want is at the end anyway |
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| 00:14.16 | beardy | rolo: Should say something about sda1 or sda?, use that to mount it. |
| 00:14.24 | falco_toadfoot | dondelelcaro: could be, but it's referenced in a mailing list with a link to packages.debian.org |
| 00:14.29 | nekostar | dondelelcaro, whats the dpkg command to repack? >_< |
| 00:14.41 | falco_toadfoot | dondelelcaro: |
| 00:14.43 | falco_toadfoot | http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/drbd/drbd_0.6.12-3/changelog |
| 00:14.51 | falco_toadfoot | but it doesn't exist any longer |
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| 00:15.07 | dondelelcaro | nekostar: dpkg-deb -b |
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| 00:15.40 | beardy | magyar: Well, you have to use the quotes at the right place. |
| 00:16.26 | rolo | beardy : can i paste the output hear ? |
| 00:16.37 | rolo | ***here i mean |
| 00:16.39 | widrone | Is there any difference in the installed size of the base system depending on if I use d-i or debootstrap at all? Im guessing not, but having difficulty finding something "authorative" on it. |
| 00:16.44 | ricky_clarkson | It's dependency hell in backports. |
| 00:16.45 | widrone | rolo: No. |
| 00:16.49 | magyar | beardy: append="apm=power-off" or append="hda=ide-scsi" |
| 00:16.56 | beardy | magyar: append=apm=power-off hda=ide-scsi |
| 00:16.57 | falco_toadfoot | dondelelcaro: d'oh..misspelled it |
| 00:17.02 | falco_toadfoot | sorry 'bout the trouble |
| 00:17.11 | magyar | beardy: no quotes |
| 00:17.13 | beardy | magyar: should work, if those options are valid |
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| 00:17.30 | widrone | rolo: Use, flood I recon. Read the topic =) |
| 00:17.34 | beardy | magyar: Yeah, no quotes, try that. Let us know if it doesn't work. |
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| 00:17.53 | rolo | ok beardy: please read my output at "http://pastebin.com/752504" |
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| 00:18.05 | rutski89 | so nobody knows about ndbm.h |
| 00:18.19 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: just install libapache-mod-ssl |
| 00:18.24 | beardy | rolo: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 00:18.25 | rolo | i then did a "$mount -t ntfs /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 /mnt/usb" |
| 00:18.52 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: now what's the fun in that? |
| 00:18.52 | midgetarg | how can I completely remove exim from sarge (I want to install and use qmail instead) |
| 00:18.54 | magyar | beardy: i have a few systems and all are with quotes working just peachy, but this one is not, if i use append="" it boots, but if anything is placed in between the quotes it wont boot |
| 00:18.58 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: JK |
| 00:19.19 | midgetarg | s/instead)/instead)?/ |
| 00:19.20 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: I've already build apache, perl, and mod_perl; I'd rather build mod_ssl too |
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| 00:19.50 | rigor | HI. I forbid a port on my router so guy that shares connection with me Can't download via torrents, could anyone tell me how to check if the port is really closed cauze I can still see packets coming to that port. I want to check if it is realy closed. I know RTFM but which command ? |
| 00:19.57 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: yuck; just install the apache modules... you get security updates for free. |
| 00:20.35 | tim_flatus | Under what circumstances might a perfectly well configured network card suddenly fail? Any idea? |
| 00:20.35 | beardy | magyar: No lilo.conf here to look at. But, 'man 5 lilo.conf' search append. Or hold on, I'll go check one.. |
| 00:20.35 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: also, if you actually care about the build depends, you can get them automatically using apt-get build-dep libapache-mod-ssl; which will pull all of them for you. |
| 00:21.04 | dondelelcaro | tim_flatus: bad cables, bad card, sudden hardware death syndrome, bad kernel, buggy driver, dust, sun spot activity, alien invasion... |
| 00:21.29 | dvs | o_O |
| 00:21.42 | rutski89 | I'm building apache from source because Mason (a perl module I like to use) requires that mod_perl be built into apache statically, and not loaded as an so. It get memory leaks if you use mod_perl with apache 1.3 as a DSO |
| 00:21.50 | tim_flatus | I've just had a network card inexplicably stop working on a sarge system. I take your point dondelelcaro |
| 00:21.56 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: so install apache-perl |
| 00:22.03 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: but IIRC those bugs were fixed a while ago |
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| 00:22.14 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: there's still there, or so the docs say |
| 00:22.20 | rutski89 | they're not there with apache v2 though |
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| 00:22.38 | dondelelcaro | perhaps that was it; anyway, we've already got perl built directly into apache as apache-perl |
| 00:23.15 | rutski89 | and to tell the truth I don't like debians directly layout, and I'm already used to installing apache/perl/mod_perl/mod_ssl from source |
| 00:23.27 | rutski89 | **directory |
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| 00:23.56 | beardy | magyar: Well, in an perhaps-not-recent manpage, it's: append = "something" |
| 00:24.01 | matttt | hey when you use adduser blah blah where is the main file with all the entries? |
| 00:24.25 | beardy | magyar: append = "apm=power-off hda=ide-scsi" |
| 00:24.26 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: *shrug*; I've been there, done that. Eventually you'll realize that there are better things to be done with your time than compile apache. |
| 00:24.32 | mankod | . |
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| 00:25.03 | rolo | is /quit |
| 00:25.17 | Dwonis | rigor: add your own computer to the list of machines that aren't allowed to access those ports, then just try to use bittorrent from your machine? |
| 00:25.29 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: I know the feeling, it's why I quit using gentoo after a few months. |
| 00:25.52 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: I was iffy about compiling apache, but then I gave it a shot on OpenBSD and it went off without a hitch |
| 00:26.04 | rigor | Dwonis: thx but I wanted to learn something... googlin |
| 00:27.06 | magyar | beardy: yeah, i tried that, but as i mentioned if anything is added in the append, i get a blank screen |
| 00:27.25 | beardy | magyar: exactly as I gave you, with the spaces |
| 00:27.25 | magyar | beardy: could it be a corrupted lilo package? |
| 00:27.34 | beardy | magyar: Not likely. |
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| 00:27.43 | beardy | magyar: Are you running sarge? |
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| 00:28.32 | magyar | beardy: yeap exactly, i tried with only apm=power-off than only hdb=ide-scsi, as soon as something is added to append its dead |
| 00:28.38 | magyar | beardy: sarge |
| 00:28.43 | beardy | magyar: When does it become blank, when you have selected a kernel, or even before the menu? |
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| 00:29.02 | magyar | beardy: when i select the kernel |
| 00:30.08 | magyar | beardy: i can live without the apm stuff , but the hdb=ide-scsi i need for the backup to work |
| 00:30.24 | beardy | magyar: Exactly as this: append = "apm=power-off hda=ide-scsi" |
| 00:30.31 | hetalet | what is the difference between closed and filtered port? |
| 00:30.40 | beardy | magyar: Did you run /sbin/lilo after editing? |
| 00:30.57 | magyar | beardy: lilo -v, yes i did and all is good |
| 00:31.10 | dvs | magyar: did you put the append after the image line? |
| 00:31.27 | magyar | dvs: yes |
| 00:33.56 | beardy | magyar: well, I'm not sure that space is the separator between the two things, but it should be.. :) |
| 00:33.57 | beardy | magyar: I don't remember any other atleast.. |
| 00:33.57 | magyar | beardy: bizzare |
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| 00:33.57 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: well, if you're actually going to compile it, you really should build the Debian packages instead... but it's your machine |
| 00:33.59 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: you'll see why that is once you try to upgrade or remove the version of apache that you've got installed |
| 00:34.02 | rutski89 | I don't usually use debian, but I'm stuck with it because they don't make OpenBSD for the XBox |
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| 00:34.23 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: It's all installed with prefixes and such |
| 00:34.32 | dondelelcaro | blech |
| 00:34.38 | dondelelcaro | oh well, your deal. |
| 00:34.43 | owh | What would cause a kernel panic "killing init" when I boot to the copied drive of a working partition? |
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| 00:35.12 | owh | I changed my grub settings to reflect the new partition in menu.lst, then did update-grub. Did I miss a step? |
| 00:35.25 | dondelelcaro | owh: no console, no /dev, a few other things could cause it |
| 00:35.41 | guk | when I goto install any package apt bitches about e2fsprogs and the only way to get this to work is to enable some apt::force-loopbreak option ? how do I enable this option to fix this dependancy issue ? this is a fresh sarge netinstall |
| 00:36.04 | dondelelcaro | !tell guk -about bat |
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| 00:36.13 | dondelelcaro | guk: give us the output that dpkg asked for |
| 00:36.16 | owh | I did a dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sda2; then an resize2fs with fsck in the middle. |
| 00:36.18 | beardy | magyar: well, look at this for example http://www.viajes-abaco.com/8880/lilo_conf.htm |
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| 00:36.37 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: yea, but what's up with debian not having ndbm.h, from the research I've done I think ndbm.h is just standard BDB stuff |
| 00:36.39 | guk | oh ... that's going to be a bitch and a half in a command line only linux enviroment |
| 00:36.47 | dondelelcaro | !+find ndbm.h |
| 00:36.48 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 00:36.57 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ndbm.h' (4): (/usr/include/oskit/freebsd/ndbm.h) in devel/oskit ;; (/usr/include/gdbm-ndbm.h) in libdevel/libgdbm-dev ;; (/usr/include/ace/os_include/os_ndbm.h) in libdevel/libace-dev ;; (/usr/lib/TenDRA/lib/include/unix95.api/ndbm.h) in devel/tendra. |
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| 00:37.28 | guk | all I need to know how to do is to enable the "APT::Force-Loopbreak" option |
| 00:37.35 | dondelelcaro | guk: no, you need to fix the problem. |
| 00:37.46 | guk | yeah ... but how am I supposed to get you all this information |
| 00:37.48 | guk | I don't have lync |
| 00:37.50 | guk | lynx |
| 00:37.52 | guk | I can't install shit |
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| 00:37.56 | guk | im on a stock netinstall |
| 00:38.05 | guk | Im telnetting into my wrt sshing to another computer to get on here :/ |
| 00:38.18 | dondelelcaro | guk: it tells you actually; use apt-get -o APT::Force-Loopbreak=1 install foo; |
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| 00:38.23 | guk | oh |
| 00:38.34 | ferris_ | how do you make your panels transparent? |
| 00:38.40 | guk | thanks <3 |
| 00:38.46 | Dwonis | guk: you can use "script" or "screen" to create a log file, then you can do something like "cat logfile | ssh user@remotehost 'cat >/tmp/foo.log'" |
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| 00:39.05 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: uh... it probably isn't actually required; you may be using strange options to mod ssl |
| 00:39.19 | beardy | magyar: In case you missed it in the fast flowing sayings, I gave you a url above. |
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| 00:39.41 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: I have it a shot, but libgdbm-dev wasn't accepted as a replacement :( |
| 00:39.56 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: there aren't really any options for building mod_ssl |
| 00:40.07 | rutski89 | just "APXS" or "Built Into Apache" |
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| 00:40.08 | guk | sweet ... thanks a ton ... that's all I needed :) |
| 00:40.09 | apacker | Every time I reboot my computer I have to run alsaconf to reload the alsa sound drivers. The configurator says that it is going to write things to /etc/modules.conf or something like that, but it doesnt do so. Thoughts? |
| 00:40.12 | sanmarcos | is there an utility to capture key presses?, as in showing they keycode? |
| 00:40.29 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: it should just depend on libssl-dev; and stuff in build-essential |
| 00:40.47 | rutski89 | dondelelcaro: what's build-essential? |
| 00:40.49 | guk | ive just never had apt broke so im kinda useless when it comes to debugging it ... this is my first reinstall in awhile ... my next scheme tho is to mount my ide software raid ... it's a linux "autodetect" raid ... so where would I go to get started with that ? |
| 00:40.51 | beardy | sanmarcos: Yes. 'scancode' or something like that, it's called. Perhaps there are several though. |
| 00:41.05 | sanmarcos | thanks |
| 00:41.28 | beardy | sanmarcos: Was it the correct name? |
| 00:41.40 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: a metapackage which depends on stuff which is a prerequisite for building almost anyting |
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| 00:41.50 | sanmarcos | beardy: dunno, xev works |
| 00:41.59 | dondelelcaro | rutski89: stuff like make, gcc, et al. |
| 00:42.06 | rutski89 | ahh, i see |
| 00:42.12 | midgetarg | how do I configure a NIC (set it to dhcp, etc)? |
| 00:42.19 | Dwonis | sanmarcos: I think there are different programs for X vs the Linux console |
| 00:42.25 | vulture | midgetarg: man 5 interfaces |
| 00:42.30 | beardy | !interfaces |
| 00:42.30 | dpkg | Your network configuration in potato and later is done in the file /etc/network/interfaces. "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also "dhcp client". for laptops, use /etc/pcmcia/network.opts instead or see "man resolv.conf" for DNS or ask me about "static route" |
| 00:42.43 | midgetarg | I'm using sarge - same advice? |
| 00:43.00 | Dwonis | holy crap, I forgot about that... where was network configuration in hamm and previous? |
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| 00:43.06 | vulture | midgetarg: is sarge later than potato? yes, yes it is. |
| 00:43.10 | beardy | midgetarg: potato and later, means sarge too, yes. |
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| 00:43.18 | apacker | ok then... What is the alsa sound module called? |
| 00:43.26 | redblades | Hi, I recieved an email with a pgp.sig attachment |
| 00:43.29 | Thumy|Work | hi, any 'guides' on how to install debian on a raid 0 software raid? |
| 00:43.31 | midgetarg | thanks |
| 00:43.37 | dvs | apacker: depends on your sound chip |
| 00:43.39 | redblades | how do I use it? Do I use it at all? |
| 00:43.46 | redblades | I'm not sure what to do... |
| 00:43.52 | guk | Thumy|Work: it's simple as pie on debian ... set your raid on your devices ... make a /boot drive and go :) |
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| 00:44.12 | Dwonis | or, I guess slink came before potato |
| 00:44.20 | guk | you just make your "raid" partitions on each drive and then make a swap and a /boot drive and your good to go |
| 00:44.28 | Thumy|Work | guk: well.. when i format the disks during the installer.. i can only create one partition.. the rest of the space is 'unusuable' |
| 00:44.30 | apacker | dvs, how do I tell what modules are currently loaded? |
| 00:44.45 | dvs | apacker: lsmod |
| 00:45.00 | guk | really ? for me it gave me the options to make "raid" drives ... |
| 00:45.01 | Thumy|Work | i partition both disks as 'Physical volume for raid' |
| 00:45.19 | guk | but you honestly don't want to do that ... I made an IDE software raid ... I was only pushing 13mb/s off it... |
| 00:45.40 | hetalet | will a SATA harddisk work with 2.4.current kernel? |
| 00:45.45 | sanmarcos | is there a an easy tool to quickly bind keypresses to actions in x? |
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| 00:45.48 | apacker | dvs, module snd is used by a bunch of things... what should i put in /etc/modules to start ALL these things? and should I use depmod or one of those other modtools? |
| 00:46.07 | Thumy|Work | well.. that can't be.. in windows i get +100 mb/Sec of these.. burst rates ofc.. |
| 00:46.10 | Thumy|Work | using the windows driver.. |
| 00:46.12 | Gimp_ | how do i add users to groups? |
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| 00:46.49 | sanmarcos | Gimp_: man addgroup |
| 00:46.49 | dvs | apacker: you have to put in two of them: snd_pcm_oss and one that is specific to you. |
| 00:46.50 | Gimp_ | sanmarcos: thanks |
| 00:46.50 | sanmarcos | Gimp_: adduser rather |
| 00:46.50 | hetalet | Gimp_: adduser username groupname |
| 00:46.50 | redblades | So, PGP? |
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| 00:46.50 | Gimp_ | k |
| 00:46.56 | guk | oh yeah ? ive had no luck ... but yeah ... make your raid drives I havn't done in it along time all I remember is you HAVE to have a /boot drive (off the raid) and your swap off the raid too |
| 00:47.04 | redblades | I'm kinda lost and would really appreciate help |
| 00:47.11 | apacker | dvs, ok i see snd_pcm_oss and snd_sbawe. How do I make sure they load everytime my machine boots up? |
| 00:47.22 | dvs | apacker: put those in /etc/modules |
| 00:47.23 | redblades | even if someone could direct me to a helpful website? |
| 00:47.32 | sanmarcos | redblades: google, rtfm |
| 00:47.33 | apacker | dvs, awesome, will try! thank you very much. |
| 00:47.40 | dvs | you're welcome |
| 00:47.49 | redblades | sanmarcos, is there a fm ? |
| 00:48.20 | sanmarcos | redblades: yes, google. Really, pgp signatures are just to validate if the email is from the person ti claims to be |
| 00:48.20 | Gimp_ | how can i pipe a list of things from ls into chmod? |
| 00:48.23 | magyar | i send print jobs with lpr to the local cups, it ques but doesnt print |
| 00:48.28 | sanmarcos | redblades: if you dont care about it, dont waste your time |
| 00:48.29 | Thumy|Work | guk: then there's no point in using this.. i'd need a third disk for system disk.. |
| 00:49.00 | sanmarcos | redblades: pgp is just for asymmetric cryptography (public key) (email) security |
| 00:49.18 | guk | well the cool thing is the raid can be partitions on a disk ... for example ... I had 2 HDD's right ... my first HDD had a 30mb /boot drive and a 10gb (lets say) raid drive and a 500mb swap ... while my second one had a 10gb raid partition and a 500mb swap |
| 00:49.56 | guk | so I had all that working on 2 disks ... Im actually working right now on figuring out how to mount those raid points so I can copy the data off em |
| 00:49.59 | hetalet | sanmarcos: no, you can use symmetric as well (-c) |
| 00:50.18 | Thumy|Work | guk: yeah.. ofc. you can do it per. partition.. but you're on the same spindles.. so i'm not interested in that solution |
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| 00:51.22 | guk | im not sure if there is anymore ... you would have to read up ... worked fine for me and my "make my 6 and 10gb HDD bigger" solution |
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| 00:52.38 | FirstLite | join #ubuntu |
| 00:52.46 | FirstLite | oops, sorry |
| 00:52.52 | Dwonis | booo! ;) |
| 00:52.53 | widrone | Thumy|Work: Try talking to dpkg about raid, maybe some links to start you off with. |
| 00:52.55 | dvs | hiss! |
| 00:53.18 | De_Mon | what happens to mail procmail 'Moves' to a non-existant directory? I got an error in procmail.log, but the message is poof |
| 00:53.20 | ricky_clarkson | Ubuntu? That's Knoppix for hard drives, right? |
| 00:53.24 | FirstLite | sorry, I forgot the /, not a political comment :) |
| 00:53.28 | guk | how do you talk to dpkg about raid ? I want to know how to mount my raid on my 2 IDE drives so I can fish the data off them ... it's 2 "autodetect" raid partitions ... so it should be fairly friendly |
| 00:54.32 | Coweater | /msg dpkg raid |
| 00:55.12 | Dwonis | ricky_clarkson: heh |
| 00:55.43 | Dwonis | Coweater: how did you do that (type a leading slash) without a leading space or anything? |
| 00:55.55 | widrone | Or maybe tldp howto for software raid if its generic linux info? (Just trying to help you in a direction here) |
| 00:56.00 | Coweater | in x-chat, just // |
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| 00:56.11 | Dwonis | Coweater: ah, thanks |
| 00:56.11 | owh | dondelelcaro: Now I'm in upgrade hell. The machine which booted fine with the /dev/sda3 as the root, was copied to /dev/sda2, fstab was updated, menu.lst was updated, an a reboot gives me a kernel panic. Now I cannot seem to boot to either. |
| 00:57.06 | guk | thanks a ton |
| 00:57.20 | dondelelcaro | owh: what is the kernel panic message? |
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| 01:00.11 | wut | can i apt-get java or is there a .deb around somewhere? |
| 01:00.18 | owh | dondelelcaro: Attempted to kill init. |
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| 01:00.28 | owh | dondelelcaro: I may have made a typo in menu.lst |
| 01:01.11 | jmartens | I'm having some trouble with some raid1 devices. |
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| 01:01.30 | jmartens | For some reason, whenever I reboot, it never adds both raid devices into the array, but is always down one. |
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| 01:02.10 | ricky_clarkson | I'm install linux-image-2.6.16 from backports onto sarge, and the configure script tells me it cannot find a suitable tool for generating initrd images. |
| 01:02.15 | ricky_clarkson | installING |
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| 01:02.55 | ricky_clarkson | I have udev installed, which according to apt-cache, replaces all 3 of the options that linux-image tells me about, namely, yaird, initramfs-tools and linux-initramfs-tool. |
| 01:03.05 | ricky_clarkson | Any suggestions? |
| 01:03.27 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: udev should not replace all of those, because it does not build initrd images |
| 01:03.30 | dondelelcaro | owh: and before that? |
| 01:04.11 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: Can you install initramfs-tools anyway? |
| 01:04.50 | sanmarcos | is there a comnmand to toggle mute/unmute from the console? |
| 01:04.57 | sanmarcos | aumix -v M mutes, but doenst unmute |
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| 01:05.01 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: I'll have to download it first. |
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| 01:05.26 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: Yes, but does apt complain if you try to install it? |
| 01:05.32 | ricky_clarkson | sanmarcos: Does aumix have an option to tell you the current volume? |
| 01:05.42 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: There is no installation candidate. |
| 01:06.06 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: i dont want to code a script |
| 01:06.28 | ricky_clarkson | sanmarcos: There are operating systems for people who don't want to code scripts. ;) |
| 01:06.40 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: if i had the money, i would buy a mac, believ eme |
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| 01:06.49 | ricky_clarkson | I expect it can be done without using a text editor. |
| 01:06.54 | redphoenix1 | hmm the toshiba HDdvd player is a linux box!!! |
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| 01:07.06 | ricky_clarkson | sanmarcos: Isn't Mac OS X available for Intel without $? |
| 01:07.14 | dvs | redphoenix1: so install Debian on it! |
| 01:07.21 | redphoenix1 | lol i dont have 1 |
| 01:07.22 | redphoenix1 | :P |
| 01:07.25 | redphoenix1 | i am listening to twit |
| 01:07.30 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: I wish |
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| 01:07.34 | jmartens | sanmarcos: If you don't want to script, why are you using a command line tool? |
| 01:07.40 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: life is all about money |
| 01:07.43 | redphoenix1 | i have an intel mac :) |
| 01:07.57 | sanmarcos | jmartens: dont even weant to bother answering |
| 01:08.00 | sanmarcos | yes, i am that lazy |
| 01:08.03 | redphoenix1 | first mac and i installed debian on it |
| 01:08.05 | Coweater | sanmarcos: it should be unmuting as well, file a bug if it isn't |
| 01:08.26 | sanmarcos | funny how such a comment draws that much attention |
| 01:09.42 | owh | dondelelcaro: It was my typo in grub, sda1, not sda2, it got very confused. |
| 01:09.47 | ricky_clarkson | sanmarcos: It's rather like a professional cyclist saying that he'd rather be on a horse. ;) |
| 01:09.48 | Gimp_ | how do i delete a user account? |
| 01:10.01 | sanmarcos | Gimp_: userdel |
| 01:10.01 | ricky_clarkson | userdel, deluser or something. |
| 01:10.07 | dondelelcaro | owh: ah, so you got the can't start init kernel panic |
| 01:10.17 | sanmarcos | Gimp_: man is your friend, so is t ab, all user actions start with user |
| 01:10.33 | Gimp_ | sanmarcos: ah, i was looking for deluser or rmuser |
| 01:10.44 | midgetarg | hey guys, I've configured my second interface to dhcp and it successfully gets assigned an IP from my ISP and I can ping the broadcast from my ISP but nothing else. what could be the problem? |
| 01:12.05 | Dwonis | midgetarg: reboot your DSL/cable modem |
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| 01:13.05 | midgetarg | Dwonis: this computer I'm on right now has another IP through the same modem, surely that can't be the problem? |
| 01:14.37 | wut | run dchlient eth0 or eth1 or whatever |
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| 01:15.02 | wut | or dhcpcd eth0/eth1 |
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| 01:16.44 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: apt does complain actually, initramfs-tools depends on udev >=0.076-5 but I have 0.056-3 |
| 01:17.12 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: Well, you could upgrade udev, or try the other initrd tools |
| 01:17.15 | midgetarg | wut: yes it gets an IP just like if I ifup it, but ping -I eth1 my.dns.server.ip doesn't work still |
| 01:17.44 | midgetarg | but it works from this computer, which has an IP from the same ISP over the same modem |
| 01:18.17 | ricky_clarkson | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. |
| 01:18.26 | ricky_clarkson | E: Unable to correct dependencies. |
| 01:18.33 | ricky_clarkson | Afaik, I have no held packages. |
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| 01:19.17 | jmartens | midgetarg: What exactly are you trying to do? I don't think that dhclient is smart enough to figure out how to handle two IP addresses. And why do you want two in the first place? |
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| 01:20.13 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: It's probably caused because there is no upgrade solution. What initrd packages are available from the backports repository? |
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| 01:20.36 | ricky_clarkson | I've solved that error now, just removed a few packages. |
| 01:21.12 | ricky_clarkson | initramfs-tools |
| 01:21.28 | jmartens | Can someone explain this? If I pvcreate /dev/md5, pvscan says that it sees /dev/hda2 (which is part of /dev/md5) instead of the raid device. |
| 01:21.59 | midgetarg | jmartens: one interface is an external interface and the other is internal to my network |
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| 01:22.32 | jmartens | midgetarg: So, you are using dhcp for the external interface correct? |
| 01:22.36 | midgetarg | yes |
| 01:22.40 | midgetarg | and static for the internal |
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| 01:23.03 | jmartens | midgetarg: But you can't get an IP address using dhcp on the external interface? |
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| 01:23.32 | midgetarg | the internal works correctly, and the external *seems* to work correctly (it gets an IP from my ISP) but I can't actually seem to access the outside world through it with the IP it gets |
| 01:23.54 | midgetarg | I had this exact same setup before but with eth0 as the external and eth1 as internal - could that be the problem? |
| 01:24.09 | jmartens | midgetarg: What is your default route? (paste here ONLY the line that says default from 'netstat -r') |
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| 01:26.29 | midgetarg | there are 2 that say default, should I rpaste them both? |
| 01:26.33 | midgetarg | *paste |
| 01:27.06 | midgetarg | (one is clearly incorrect, maybe that's the problem) |
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| 01:27.11 | Romano2K | does anyone know the command to type in an eggdrop dcc so that colors are good from within an irc client ? |
| 01:27.19 | jmartens | midgetarg: No. That's your problem. You can only have one default route, and for you it should be going out the interface that is connected to your dsl modem. |
| 01:27.28 | Romano2K | (bash colors codes appearing everywhere) |
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| 01:27.47 | owh | Just for the record, I migrated a RedHat box to Debian and I could not have done that without the help shown here, so thanks all. |
| 01:27.51 | midgetarg | jmartens: ok, thanks - I will see if I can figure out how to remove the offending route |
| 01:27.58 | dvs | !beer me |
| 01:28.02 | dvs | yuck |
| 01:28.10 | widrone | !tell omkar86 about root |
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| 01:28.31 | sanmarcos | I just turned off intro/out msgss |
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| 01:29.03 | jmartens | midgetarg: If you have the static interface configured in /etc/network/interfaces, make sure it does not have a gateway line associated with it. |
| 01:29.08 | magyar | how can i setup a print server? |
| 01:29.16 | sanmarcos | !tell magyar about cups |
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| 01:29.30 | sanmarcos | or samba for windows magyar |
| 01:30.29 | sorenzo | my Evolution mail client comes up without any icons. someone in that chat group suggest that i have to start gnome in a kde session. can anyone tell me the easiest way to do it? |
| 01:30.42 | magyar | sanmarcos: i did the websetup, but all i see is printjobs getting qued |
| 01:31.06 | sanmarcos | magyar: thats all I see too brother, thats all I see |
| 01:31.16 | midgetarg | jmartens: ahha, it did - I will remove it and see how that works. thanks!! |
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| 01:31.38 | magyar | sanmarcos: arent they suppose to print? |
| 01:31.47 | midgetarg | jmartens: that did it, thanks! |
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| 01:32.20 | sanmarcos | magyar: they should, check your printer, your setup, logs in var/log, etc, ask dpkg about cups setup, google, or try #cups |
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| 01:32.55 | magyar | sanmarcos: roger |
| 01:33.12 | Gimp_ | would someone mind helping me out on how to use cron jobs, for setting up a command to run every 15 minutes? |
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| 01:33.28 | Gimp_ | maybe point me towards the files i need to edit, and a site to show me what to put in? |
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| 01:33.48 | jake1933 | damn lightning - i keep on getting booted off my dsl ppoe connection and i have to manually reload ppp - i have "persist" in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-providers - anything else? |
| 01:34.38 | widrone | !crontab demystified |
| 01:34.39 | dpkg | i guess crontab demystified is http://www.superscripts.com/tutorial/crontab.html |
| 01:34.40 | sabin | anyone having trouble using "user administration" in mysql-admin (mysql 5)? |
| 01:35.57 | ricky_clarkson | initramfs-tools depends on busybox or busybox-cvs-static, but neither of those exist (sarge+backports). |
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| 01:37.23 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: Do you know how to use aptitude? |
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| 01:37.35 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: Yes. How would that help? |
| 01:38.12 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: Find the linux-image package you are trying to install, then hit enter when it's selected, and look under the dependencies. |
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| 01:38.30 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: Try selecting various ones until you come up with a solution that works. |
| 01:38.31 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: Yes, that will tell me what that package depends on. |
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| 01:38.49 | ricky_clarkson | But that package depends on things that I haven't got. |
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| 01:38.59 | ricky_clarkson | So aptitude doesn't know what those packages depend on. |
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| 01:39.25 | jmartens | There should be *some* solution to the problem, or it doesn't make sense for it to be in backports |
| 01:39.34 | ricky_clarkson | I expect there is. |
| 01:39.39 | jmartens | maybe initramfs isn't the right one to use |
| 01:40.00 | jmartens | anyway, try the other ones that were listed as fulfilling the same dependency as initramfs-tools |
| 01:40.01 | ricky_clarkson | Well, yaird has some more dependencies, so I'll probably be rebooting to fetch those soon. |
| 01:40.06 | ricky_clarkson | I am doing, yes. |
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| 01:40.28 | ricky_clarkson | I have a nice little text file describing the unresolved dependencies so that I don't lose track. ;) |
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| 01:40.36 | chron | can you log into root on the default gnome in debian? (not that i want to) |
| 01:40.43 | jmartens | chron: no |
| 01:41.29 | sorenzo | no one uses Evolution here? |
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| 01:41.40 | jmartens | sorenzo: I do |
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| 01:42.27 | zirikili | I just did install a kernel using apt-get. how do I get its config file to use with a source code to compile by myself? |
| 01:42.30 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: Now apt tells me that linux-initramfs-tool is a virtual package provided by yaird and initramfs-tools, so that narrows my choices down to 1, yaird. |
| 01:42.31 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: irc.gnome.org or just use mutt |
| 01:42.45 | sorenzo | jmartens: great. mine come up without any icons. someone in that chat group suggest that i have to start gnome in a kde session. can anyone tell me the easiest way to do it? |
| 01:43.18 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: execute gnome-settings-daemon |
| 01:43.45 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: I think I should be trying to grab my missing packages from p.d.o actually. |
| 01:43.49 | sorenzo | sanmarcos: that's the command suggested. but exactly how or where to put it? |
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| 01:43.56 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: anyways, it isnt a good idea too run apps from both huge resource hogs. If you want a plain gtk mail app,. checkout Sylpheed or Balsa |
| 01:43.59 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: alt-f2 in kde |
| 01:44.19 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: youll have to run it everytime if you want any gnome app to look rigt |
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| 01:44.40 | jmartens | sorenzo: So, you run kde as your desktop? |
| 01:44.42 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: there are workarounds, modyfing your .gtkrc to include the path to the gnome icons |
| 01:44.50 | FirstLite | zirikili: the config file is in /boot. But you may want to install the appropriate 'kernel-headers' package if you want to compile, say, a kernel module yourself |
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| 01:45.26 | sorenzo | jmartens: yes, i run kde and that is suppose to be the source of the problem i am facing because Evo is gnome app. |
| 01:45.33 | zirikili | FirstLite: thanks |
| 01:45.34 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: why not use kontact? |
| 01:45.34 | jmartens | zirikili, FirstLite: Don't forget that "kernel-headers" is now "linux-headers", if you're using testing or unstable. |
| 01:45.59 | zirikili | jmartens: yeah. I get it |
| 01:46.23 | FirstLite | jmartens: oops, I hadn't noticed. Thanks. |
| 01:46.25 | jmartens | sorenzo: I'm not a KDE user, so I can't help you. Try what sanmarcos suggested. |
| 01:47.00 | sorenzo | sanmarcos: can't i put that command in a kde session start-up script? |
| 01:47.53 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: of course |
| 01:48.07 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: but then again, changing look and feel of evolution is going to be a pain |
| 01:48.16 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: honestly, you should not run gnome apps in a kde environment |
| 01:48.26 | sanmarcos | gnome has evolution which is amazing despite a few quirks |
| 01:48.30 | sanmarcos | but kde has kontact and kmail |
| 01:48.44 | sanmarcos | i mean if you really want to, go ahead, its just going to be extremely memory expensive |
| 01:48.49 | sanmarcos | loading all the gnome crap allong with kde |
| 01:48.51 | _ericb | hi all |
| 01:49.03 | sanmarcos | gtk, bonobo, gconf, settings daemon, dbus (all gnome stuff) sorenzo |
| 01:49.15 | sanmarcos | but if you know what you are doing it is fine |
| 01:49.20 | jmartens | sanmarcos, sorenzo: Not to mention that they don't integrate as nicely with each other as using kde apps in kde or gnome apps in gnome. |
| 01:49.23 | sorenzo | sanmarcos: i have tried kmail, thunderbird, balsa but evo is best in look-and-feel and can handle huge vol of mails. |
| 01:49.51 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: sylpheed is good too. Anyways, if you want to run evolution in kde, go ahead, but you have been warned |
| 01:49.55 | jmartens | sorenzo: Maybe you should try gnome too then. :) |
| 01:50.22 | _ericb | I'm having problems configuring shorewall as a router.. I've settup up zones for public and private nets, I've settup up interfaces correctly, I've setted up policies, "shorewall check" runs ok, but the internal network just can't ping the outside network and the outside network can't ping the inside network |
| 01:50.24 | sanmarcos | yes, gnome looks very professional, it just "works" (given it is setup right. cough ubuntu cough) |
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| 01:50.58 | Thumann | hi.. isn't ICH5 raid controller supported in the 2.6 kernel supplied with the latest debian installer? |
| 01:51.04 | jmartens | _ericb: did you enable forwarding? |
| 01:51.13 | ricky_clarkson | sanmarcos: I've never seen Ubuntu - how does it get Gnome wrong? |
| 01:51.17 | Thumann | the installer finds 2 single disks.. instead of the raid i created in the bios |
| 01:51.24 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: it gets gnome *right* |
| 01:51.35 | _ericb | hmm jmartens that could be the issue,. it's the first time I setup shorewall... hmm ok gonna read on that get back later |
| 01:51.40 | ricky_clarkson | Ah. How does Debian not? |
| 01:51.51 | sorenzo | sanmarcos: your earlier suggestion to "modyfing your .gtkrc to include the path to the gnome icons" is worth trying. i'll check it out. |
| 01:52.03 | jmartens | sanmarcos: Heh, I've thought about just installing the ubuntu theme under Debian, because I love debian, but the default theme looks like crap. |
| 01:52.05 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: ubuntu is basically a very very polished debian for the desktop that just works (thats why the popularity). very easy, yet debian power is included |
| 01:52.16 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: minor details, even though debian/ubuntu gnome is about 90% the same |
| 01:52.20 | sorenzo | sanmarcos: u mean the path to the evo icons, right? |
| 01:52.20 | midgetarg | how can I find out if there is a debian package for a certain app or whether I should install from source? |
| 01:52.40 | ricky_clarkson | sanmarcos: I've been thinking about running Debian testing/unstable/Ubuntu in a chroot. |
| 01:53.10 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: no, anyways, what i told you would only work in *theory*. Google is your friend. The thing is that Gnome has its own separate icons that GTK does not think its necessary to include (they are right), gnome-settings-daemon makes GTK aware of them |
| 01:53.27 | jmartens | midgetarg: aptitude search packagename |
| 01:53.33 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: dpkg -L gnome-icon-theme gnome-extra-icons |
| 01:53.45 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: but really, the right way is to use gnome-settings-daemon |
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| 01:53.58 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: evolution is *made* for gnome. |
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| 01:54.31 | midgetarg | jmartens: thank again |
| 01:55.16 | baegle | I just upgraded from sarge to etch, and I had a lot of trouble with apt and getting my X packages squared away. I finally got everything installed properly, but now when I boot, X doesn't start. It doesn't flicker, it just doesn't even try to start. What do I need to do for this to work? |
| 01:55.37 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: for example, evolution uses gtk, it wont look, feel, or act the same as QT. the whole concept of the UI is different, gnome likes to keep it simple and useful (gnome hig), also, the button order (ok/cancel) is different AFAIK. The file save/open dialogs is totally, i mean totally different, and if you want to use gnomevfs (think kiosalves, accessing remote stuff, cd rom, floppy) you will need gnomevfs, hal, udev, and dbus working, as wel |
| 01:55.38 | sanmarcos | l as the gtk file chooser option in gconf set to gnomevfs |
| 01:56.05 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: so a long story made short again, you can run evolution in kde, it will just take some time to adjust all settings to make it work right, even then it will feel totally different |
| 01:56.27 | jmartens | baegle: is gdm installed and/or starting? |
| 01:56.43 | baegle | jmartens: I installed xdm, it is not starting |
| 01:56.44 | jmartens | baegle: or xdm or kdm or whatever one you want. |
| 01:56.45 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: yes, you should try dapper |
| 01:57.02 | jmartens | baegle: does /etc/init.d/xdm start get it going? |
| 01:57.22 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: for the desktop, i would choose ubuntu over debian, its just more polished in some aspects, and I dont have to spend time configuring things (already done). But I still have debian power |
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| 01:57.27 | baegle | jmartens: nothing appears to happen when I do that |
| 01:57.43 | jmartens | baegle: is there a log file for xdm in /var/log? |
| 01:57.58 | sorenzo | sanmarcos: i have not encountered that much problem yet, besides the present one regarding the icon. to which script file should i add that 'start-gnome-daemon'command? |
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| 01:58.22 | baegle | jmartens: Ahh, ok, yes, /usr/bin/X cannot be started |
| 01:58.34 | sanmarcos | ricky_clarkson: debian is great though, I dont know why there is a bad mood between debian and ubuntu, probably becuase ubuntu took all of debian and made it popular, and so many people come in this channel for ubuntu help, (hint: #ubuntu is a much newbier audience, totally different atmosphere) |
| 01:58.53 | ricky_clarkson | I noticed that about #ubuntu yes. |
| 01:59.01 | ricky_clarkson | It's quite similar to #fedora in that regard. |
| 01:59.01 | sanmarcos | sorenzo: gnome-settings-daemon. As far as to where to add that command? dunno, try #kde, dont use it, dont care, never will |
| 01:59.14 | sanmarcos | yes, #debian has a very nice atmosphere and audience. |
| 01:59.48 | sanmarcos | specially some channel regulars like abrotman, peterS, dondelelcaro, RichiH, simonrvn, and others are very helpful answering technical questions, or stuff regarding console apps |
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| 02:00.15 | sanmarcos | go to #ubuntu and its all gnome talk (how do I add an icon to the panel?, etc), I am not saying its bad. Its just a different audience. |
| 02:00.21 | ricky_clarkson | I probably will be again once I'm back in the swing of it. |
| 02:00.24 | baegle | jmartens: What is it looking for? startx? xinit? |
| 02:00.25 | ricky_clarkson | ..useful |
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| 02:01.04 | jmartens | baegle: what X server are you running? xserver-xorg or xserver-x11? |
| 02:01.17 | baegle | xorg |
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| 02:01.28 | jmartens | baegle: you might just want to look at /var/log/X.0.log or something like that |
| 02:01.36 | phaedrus4 | bah!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:01.52 | jmartens | baegle: On ubuntu, it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 02:02.25 | baegle | I'm on debian, not ubunutu. But there's nothing wrong with X. I can do startx and xinit no problem. |
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| 02:02.46 | Wyzard | jmartens: That's true on Debian too, and probably any other distro using xorg |
| 02:03.00 | phaedrus4 | uh...i ruined my xserver-xfree86 install!!! |
| 02:03.30 | phaedrus4 | i tried to remove and reinstall but it is still messed...i even tried dpkg-reconfigure...nothing...its totally screwed |
| 02:03.49 | jmartens | baegle: It's probably a problem with the xdm configuration then, and it probably has to do with xorg |
| 02:03.50 | phaedrus4 | can someone help me? |
| 02:04.04 | phaedrus4 | im on dsl right now becuase my debian wont boot to x |
| 02:04.32 | chealer | !tell phaedrus4 about ep |
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| 02:05.06 | chealer | phaedrus4: it depends. try asking a question |
| 02:05.34 | phaedrus4 | i tried to remove and reinstall but it is still messed...i even tried dpkg-reconfigure...nothing...its totally screwed |
| 02:05.40 | jmartens | baegle: You can look at the xorg69 to 7 wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7) |
| 02:05.44 | phaedrus4 | any suggestions on where to start fixing this problem? |
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| 02:05.49 | jmartens | baegle: That might help |
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| 02:06.10 | jmartens | phaedrus4: Did you add or remove any packages, or just screw up the config file? |
| 02:06.12 | baegle | jmartens: thanks, I'll look there. Also going to try using gdm instead of xdm |
| 02:06.31 | chealer | phaedrus4: that would be hard without a diagnosis better than "totally screwed" |
| 02:06.37 | phaedrus4 | i tried to install nvidia kernel and gxl |
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| 02:07.13 | phaedrus4 | chealer, i got my point across, if you dont feel like helping or giving advice than dont say anything |
| 02:07.21 | phaedrus4 | simple |
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| 02:07.46 | phaedrus4 | jmartens: i did mess with the config file |
| 02:07.51 | jmartens | phaedrus4 glx or xgl? |
| 02:07.57 | ErickErhardt | alguem fala portugues ? |
| 02:08.02 | phaedrus4 | i took out find Glcore and dri modules |
| 02:08.09 | chealer | phaedrus4: if you don't feel like fixing your problem, it's useless to complain here |
| 02:08.17 | chealer | !tell ErickErhardt about br |
| 02:08.32 | jmartens | phaedrus4: Did you look at the x server log? |
| 02:08.33 | phaedrus4 | yeah sorry mis typr glx |
| 02:08.50 | phaedrus4 | where is the x server log kept? |
| 02:08.56 | phaedrus4 | i will right now |
| 02:08.59 | jmartens | /var/log/Xsomething |
| 02:09.16 | phaedrus4 | thanks jamartens ill go read it now |
| 02:09.24 | ErickErhardt | how I make to install debian Sarge in one hd sata? |
| 02:10.13 | ricky_clarkson | ErickErhardt: Follow the installation process. |
| 02:10.51 | widrone | phaedrus4: You said you tried to reinstall xorg, but maybe it left your configs lying around. Something about purge is tingeling in my mind. |
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| 02:12.24 | ErickErhardt | it does not find my controller sata, Silicone Image: ( |
| 02:12.31 | tuv | i got no sound in flashplugin (firefox) |
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| 02:13.07 | Wyzard | ErickErhardt: Silicon, not silicone :-) |
| 02:13.18 | Wyzard | ErickErhardt: Silicone is what breast implants are made from |
| 02:13.18 | zirikili | how do may I use two sound devices at same time with alsa? a es1370 and a snd-bt87x |
| 02:14.16 | ErickErhardt | uehuehuehe |
| 02:14.17 | phaedrus4 | widrone: yeah thats probably what i want to do...wipe it all out and reinstall through apt-get |
| 02:14.26 | Wyzard | zirikili: Load both drivers and both cards should be recognized... but you'll have to configure things to use card 1 instead of card 0, or you'll never actually utilize the other card |
| 02:14.50 | bnovc | when i ssh to my debian server i can not resize my terminal from any computer/client...it uses the initial size only |
| 02:15.47 | jmartens | phaedrus4: if you just move your config file, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should re-create the file |
| 02:16.07 | zirikili | Wyzard: the en1370 is my main card. the bt87x is a sound card of the tv tuner capture |
| 02:16.12 | jmartens | phaedrus4: But it won't do it if you've manually modified the file, so you have to move it first. |
| 02:16.13 | widrone | phaedrus4: I am not going to advice you to purge your X install sice Im a doofus with X. But... |
| 02:16.16 | ricky_clarkson | ErickErhardt: Do you boot normally or with the 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:16.30 | ErickErhardt | ricky_clarkson: yes |
| 02:16.36 | ErickErhardt | 2.6 |
| 02:16.39 | widrone | !tell phaedrus4 about purge |
| 02:16.41 | ricky_clarkson | Try 2.4. |
| 02:16.47 | Wyzard | zirikili: If you want to use the second card for recording, then you have to tell your recording app to use card 1 |
| 02:16.49 | phaedrus4 | hehe doofus..havnt hearfd that in a while thats funny |
| 02:17.03 | zirikili | Wyzard: thanks |
| 02:17.08 | ricky_clarkson | ErickErhardt: I'm solving this issue for myself right now. ;) |
| 02:17.11 | phaedrus4 | ok ill try just moving the config or can i rename it? and recreating a new one |
| 02:17.30 | jmartens | phaedrus4 Moving and renaming are the same thing in linux. |
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| 02:17.55 | xbmodder_lappy | Anyone here had some problems with ipw3945? |
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| 02:18.47 | phaedrus4 | ok...im gonna go boot back into debian and try these suggestions I really appreciate the help |
| 02:19.04 | tuv | how do i allow flash to access sound? |
| 02:19.15 | phaedrus4 | oh almost forgot to thank chealer |
| 02:19.16 | jmartens | tuv: What desktop system are you using? |
| 02:19.20 | phaedrus4 | chealer: thanks a million |
| 02:19.22 | phaedrus4 | peace |
| 02:19.23 | tuv | jmartens, gnome |
| 02:19.26 | widrone | If I wanted to play with X I would try to get this NVIDIA Quadro FX 700 in my laptop working with something else than vesa driver =) |
| 02:19.37 | phaedrus4 | hehe yeah |
| 02:19.39 | jmartens | tuv: Try disabling esd, the sound daemon |
| 02:19.49 | phaedrus4 | ill be right back |
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| 02:20.49 | jmartens | tuv: And make sure you don't have any other apps open which use audio (rhythmbox, audacity, xmms, etc). |
| 02:21.23 | tuv | jmartens, does xchat qualify as an audio user? (it beeps!) |
| 02:21.38 | jmartens | tuv: Don't think so |
| 02:22.06 | tuv | jmartens, i disabled esd from "Sound Preferences" (though esd is still running).. still no luck |
| 02:22.12 | ErickErhardt | somebody knows where has a tutorial one explaining as to make alteracão in kernel of the compact disc of debian so that I can qualify the support hd sata? |
| 02:22.17 | jmartens | tuv: pkill esd |
| 02:22.43 | ErickErhardt | somebody knows where has a tutorial one explaining as to make alteration in kernel of the compact disc of debian so that I can qualify the support hd sata? |
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| 02:23.26 | jmartens | ErickErhardt: That is not a simple thing to do. Maybe just try the testing installation cd which has a newer kernel. |
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| 02:24.08 | ricky_clarkson | ErickErhardt: I installed using 2.4, and am using backports to get a 2.6 kernel. |
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| 02:24.42 | ricky_clarkson | ErickErhardt: It's not proving to be fun though, mainly because I have no Internet access from Linux to do it. |
| 02:24.42 | Ries | [OT] anybody know a tool to manage RFC's in a OS project with about 25 members? |
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| 02:27.08 | tuv | jmartens, ok.. disabling esd (without killing), closing gkrellm (running the soundscope plugin), and restarting firefox did it |
| 02:27.19 | tuv | that's awful :( |
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| 02:27.44 | ErickErhardt | ok, debtor to all. Good night. |
| 02:27.45 | jmartens | tuv: Basically, there is some sound program that is keeping your device files open, so flashplayer can't use them |
| 02:27.47 | Thumy|Work | anyone know a debian installer cd with dmraid support? |
| 02:27.49 | rolo | hi all, i need help, i dont know what i did, but linux aint reconizing my keyb or mouse |
| 02:27.55 | rolo | they are both usb |
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| 02:28.16 | rolo | i had to use 1 usb-ps2 adapter to login ,because i wasnt able to type the password |
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| 02:28.19 | jmartens | tuv: I think there are ways around it using alsa, but that is beyond me |
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| 02:29.24 | rolo | what do i need to do for it to recognize my mouse and keyboard agian |
| 02:29.30 | ricky_clarkson | /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: line 83: /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf: No such file or directory |
| 02:29.40 | tuv | jmartens, i can run multiple sound programs.. as long as they use alsa, not the oss emulation.. flash uses the oss emulation.. esd should be using alsa, but causes such problems occasionally |
| 02:29.47 | ErickErhardt | eu estou indo nessa |
| 02:29.56 | helpme | can anyone help me with a net-install? I'm having some problems |
| 02:30.04 | ricky_clarkson | There is a /etc/mkinitramfs/initramfs.conf.dpkg-new |
| 02:30.13 | jmartens | helpme: if you describe your problem, then maybe. |
| 02:30.17 | rolo | the only "strange " thing i did was mounting my usb drive, then rebooting into windows, and then booting back to linux, but this time my keyboard and mouse were dead |
| 02:30.39 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: You could try moving that one to /etc/mkinitramfs/iniramfs.conf |
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| 02:31.00 | rolo | any help ? |
| 02:31.05 | zirikili | Wyzard: I did load the module with modprobe. but there is no /dev/dsp1 available. is that normal? |
| 02:31.09 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: Why is it there? |
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| 02:31.14 | widrone | rolo: Probably some modules that didnt load, maybe the hid layer? |
| 02:31.28 | helpme | jmartens, I have a dfi lanparty nf3 250gb motherboard, and the installer cd can't detect the onboard ethernet |
| 02:31.40 | ricky_clarkson | jmartens: Maybe there was a package that I didn't install properly - I'd rather fix it if that's true, rather than conquer apt. ;) |
| 02:31.40 | rolo | widrone, how do i load the modules, and which ones i need to load? |
| 02:31.41 | sorenzo | does debian uses the file .xinitrc? i am asking this because i just discovered that mine is empty. |
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| 02:31.53 | jmartens | ricky_clarkson: That's what dpkg does when there is an existing config file. Don't know what happened to the old one though. |
| 02:32.05 | ricky_clarkson | Ah, ok. |
| 02:32.08 | jmartens | helpme: Do you know what chipset it uses? |
| 02:33.14 | widrone | rolo: My machine seems to have these loaded usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd,usbcore. |
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| 02:33.25 | helpme | jmartens, no, hold on |
| 02:33.34 | jjazz_ | I am having trouble with mysqld. It's a fresh Etch install and I just installed mysql-server. When I do /etc/init.d/mysql restart, it fails. Syslog shows the errors at <http://pastebin.com/752686>, including saying mysql-bin.index isn't found. The file exists and is owned by root (chmod 660). Any advice would be appreciated. |
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| 02:33.45 | rolo | ok, so i just need to "$modprobe (those modues)" |
| 02:33.46 | rolo | ? |
| 02:34.44 | onetinsoldier | sorenzo: i think it's better to use .xsession |
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| 02:35.17 | jmartens | jjazz_: Does /etc/mysql/debian.cnf exist? |
| 02:35.20 | sorenzo | onetinsoldier: thks. |
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| 02:35.32 | onetinsoldier | sorenzo: sure.. yw. |
| 02:35.43 | widrone | rolo: Something deep in my mind says the 1.1 layer deals with hid and you just loaded 2.0. But I may be wrong or it may be old info, however do try loading the modules and see. |
| 02:35.51 | jjazz_ | jmartens: Yes. I was having trouble loading that too, but I changed it's perms so mysql could open it. |
| 02:36.02 | widrone | rolo: lsmod and see if some are loaded already |
| 02:36.06 | helpme | jmartens, Marvell 88E1111 GbE PHY, 10/100/1000BASE-T IEEE 802.3 compliant |
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| 02:36.16 | sorenzo | onetinsoldier: what's yw? debian doesn't use .xinitrc, right? |
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| 02:36.35 | onetinsoldier | sorenzo: yw = you're welcome |
| 02:37.14 | rolo | widrone: by loeading this modules now? does it confiure it for next boot ? |
| 02:37.15 | chealer | jjazz_: it would probably be more clear if you'd issue # invoke-rc.d mysql stop; separately from # invoke-rc.d mysql start |
| 02:37.15 | widrone | and damnit, im sorry for writing halfassed sentances at 0430 min the morning. Its bedtime! |
| 02:37.17 | aaron | hey i am having a problem with shorewall which i have been unable to solve. i using shorewall to masqurade, and for some reason i am unable to load https sites. it seems to be connecting to the server, transfering certs, and then timing out when transfering information. i checked the shorewall logs and verified it isnt being blocked by the firewall. does anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:37.29 | jjazz_ | chealer: ok. I'll try that. |
| 02:37.45 | onetinsoldier | sorenzo: i think you might be able to use .xinitrc also. try it. or just make a .xsession, then make a symlink with .xinitrc to .xsession |
| 02:37.56 | Wyzard | zirikili: The /dev/dsp* files are the OSS interface, not ALSA |
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| 02:38.25 | jmartens | helpme: is the forcedeth driver loaded? |
| 02:38.29 | widrone | rolo: Anything handloaded will be gone on a boot i guess. But there is places to put modulenames to get them loaded on boot |
| 02:38.34 | siim1 | hi if i cant ctrl+alt+f2 (or any other f) to text mode does it mean that its an X problem or my system is totally broken? function keys are working normally in KDE just its impossible to goto X without ctrl_alt_delte that kills my x session |
| 02:38.36 | zirikili | Wyzard: whats the alsa dev? |
| 02:38.39 | tuv | is there anyway to let cp show its progress? |
| 02:38.40 | Wyzard | zirikili: Look in /proc/asound/card0 and /proc/asound/card1 |
| 02:38.51 | Wyzard | zirikili: but you shouldn't need to interact with those directly |
| 02:38.53 | rolo | widrone: do you know where ? |
| 02:39.08 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they can help me get a gameport ms sidewinder gampad working? i've tried a number of things to try and it get it working, but no luck so far. free beer for anyone who can get it working! ;-) |
| 02:39.26 | vasundhar | Hi I have a hsf modem installed on my laptop. that is free and limits itself to 14 kbps so can some one guide me to a resource where I can learn to unlock it .. as its under GPL and can be tweaked and used with full functionality |
| 02:39.35 | tuv | siim1, probably a graphics card driver issue |
| 02:39.45 | widrone | rolo: /etc/modules I think... |
| 02:39.48 | helpme | jmartens, it me to pass parameters to the module, and I don't know what parameters it needs |
| 02:39.49 | zirikili | Wyzard: yes. there is a card0 and card0 directories under /proc/asound |
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| 02:40.00 | siim1 | tuv: ??.. i doubt that i have a nvidia card currently running nv module |
| 02:40.01 | zirikili | Wyzard: I mean: card0 and card1 |
| 02:40.02 | Supaplex | onetinsoldier: install windows. (you never said using what), oh, and my frosty cream soda please (I don't drink) |
| 02:40.05 | Supaplex | onetinsoldier: ;) |
| 02:40.25 | jjazz_ | chealer: I'm getting a few errors. The one I'm told at the commandline is that /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock doesn't exist, but I think the underlying error is from the syslog: " Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address" |
| 02:40.29 | Wyzard | zirikili: Then both your cards are recognized... cat /proc/asound/cards to find out which number is which card |
| 02:40.57 | jjazz_ | !beer Supaplex |
| 02:40.58 | tuv | siim1, did you/(are you willing to) try the non-free nvidia driver? |
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| 02:41.05 | aaron | anyone have any ideas about my shorewall problem? |
| 02:41.16 | Wyzard | vasundhar: I don't think it's an issue of "unlocking" the driver... the faster connection speeds are actually different signaling protocols which are simply not implemented in your driver |
| 02:41.32 | siim1 | tuv: yeah ill try but i dont think it has anything to do with it |
| 02:41.38 | zirikili | Wyzard: 0 is ens1370... 1 is mpu-401 |
| 02:41.51 | tuv | siim1, you're probably right.. |
| 02:41.53 | onetinsoldier | Supaplex: hehe. well, windows is installed although i don't really use it now. but, the gamepad does work in that os. ;-P |
| 02:42.00 | tuv | siim1, but you never know |
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| 02:42.17 | siim1 | ok |
| 02:42.26 | chealer | jjazz_: OK. I'm pretty ignorant with networking, but the output of # netstat -plunt; might be useful |
| 02:42.37 | tuv | siim1, maybe someone else can help you better |
| 02:42.37 | Wyzard | zirikili: MPU-401 is a generic thing... I'm not sure whether that corresponds to your other sound card or not |
| 02:43.11 | onetinsoldier | Supaplex: as far as what... well, i've 'things'. hehe. things like modpobing the modules... making the devices in /dev, ect. no dice |
| 02:43.19 | jjazz_ | chealer: That returns nothing related to mysql. There's one line for sshd and one for dhclient and that's it. |
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| 02:43.41 | Supaplex | onetinsoldier: does your kernel have support for it? /msg dpkg kp |
| 02:43.54 | chealer | jjazz_: then I don't know. |
| 02:43.54 | zirikili | Wyzard: no. is not. the other card is a tv tuner card with a bt87x sound capture card |
| 02:44.10 | Wyzard | zirikili: And you've loaded the driver module for that card? |
| 02:44.28 | Wyzard | zirikili: Check dmesg to see if any warnings were issued when you loaded the module |
| 02:44.29 | jjazz_ | chealer: Ok. Thanks anyway. |
| 02:44.35 | zirikili | Wyzard: I did modprobe snd-bt87x |
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| 02:45.32 | helpme | jmartens, do you have any suggestions? |
| 02:46.20 | onetinsoldier | Supaplex: yep. the kernel supposedly supports the gameport and the gamepad(ms sidewinder gameport gamepad), but it just does not work. i am pretty darn certain that i have everything in kernel that's needed for it. i do have a custom compiled kernel, as well as a debian installed kernel. no matter which one i boot with, neither of them work so far for the gamepad |
| 02:46.46 | helpme | Marvell 88E1111 GbE PHY 10/100/1000BASE-T IEEE 802.3 compliant |
| 02:46.50 | helpme | oops |
| 02:47.17 | Supaplex | onetinsoldier: I've not bothered to try out any gamepads/joysticks etc. *shrug*. wish I knew. |
| 02:47.42 | onetinsoldier | Supaplex: btw, i use make-kpkg to compile my own kernels |
| 02:48.01 | helpme | Can anyone help me with a net-install using a dfi lanparty nf3 motherboard? I can't get the onboard ethernet working. |
| 02:48.02 | aaron | is anyone here fimilar with shorewall and masqurading? i have read the mans and i have run into a problem i cannot find an answer to in the forums. plase help! |
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| 02:48.31 | onetinsoldier | Supaplex: roger. if i make it down to the computer store sometime soon, i will probably get a usb gamepad.. as i have feeling one of those will just work |
| 02:49.02 | _ericb | hmmm this is weird.. I have the simplest problem I ever saw but I can't solve it because I really lack documentation.. I want to setup a simple router.. no nat, no firewall, no nothing, just a router.. but everything I can find on google is how to setup a router with nat and firewall.. |
| 02:49.04 | zirikili | Wyzard: no warnings |
| 02:49.15 | zirikili | Wyzard: just a moment |
| 02:49.19 | _ericb | anyone can point me on where I could find how to setup a simple router to route 2 local interfaces ? |
| 02:50.08 | Supaplex | !tell aaron -about ask |
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| 02:51.09 | Supaplex | _ericb: the route and interfaces man pages should get you started. There is also a net howto, which may have what you are after. |
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| 02:51.38 | bucky | _ericb: i always use this one http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway.html |
| 02:51.46 | bucky | three commands |
| 02:52.16 | _ericb | thx |
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| 02:53.34 | Supaplex | _ericb: oh yea, find /proc -name ip_forward\* along with the FORWARD rule in iptables (if bucky's info didn't cover that) |
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| 02:55.14 | Annirak | What option do I need to get Apache2 to recurse subdirectories in a directory listing? I have /var/www/foo/lots of subdirectories/ I have Option Indexs enabled for /var/www/foo, but how do I get to /foo/foo2? It says "not found" when I try. |
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| 02:56.58 | servus | Options +Indexes, you mean? |
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| 02:57.21 | jasta_ | it would seem that defoma exploded in etch recently |
| 02:57.42 | zirikili | Wyzard: nothing yet |
| 02:58.19 | Annirak | servus: yes |
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| 02:59.55 | jasta | can anyone confirm this? |
| 02:59.56 | redblades | Umm... Hi |
| 03:00.31 | jasta | etch and unstable are really starting to urk me as of late :) |
| 03:00.32 | redblades | You know how there are a lot of sites that you type an address and is comes up with a "search site" |
| 03:00.41 | redblades | jasta, irk |
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| 03:01.17 | redblades | So, I was wondering, who do I purchase a domain like that? Do I send an email them asking for it? |
| 03:01.43 | musashiden | hmm. there is something wrong with my debian. its hiding 1.5GB of ram |
| 03:02.04 | jasta | it seems that x-ttcidfont-conf.defoma hardcodes a reference to /usr/bin/mkfontdir, despite xutils installing to /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir. |
| 03:02.06 | ends | i wish i had 1.5GB of ram to hide |
| 03:02.20 | Supaplex | musashiden: how much total ram do you have? 2.5gb? |
| 03:02.25 | musashiden | Mem: 2076368k total, 1570172k used, 506196k free, 138100k buffers |
| 03:02.28 | jasta | And a couple of other problems. Somehow, this broke fonts for me recently causing everything to be very blurry and aggressively antialiased. |
| 03:02.36 | musashiden | but there is no process that is using more than 300mb |
| 03:02.47 | musashiden | the biggest proccess is using 386mb right now |
| 03:02.49 | zinx | !free memory |
| 03:02.50 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux caches files from disk in RAM for performance gains, and will release the RAM if programs need it. |
| 03:03.32 | musashiden | but my programs do need it! if i run a service that needs 600mb, my server just freezes |
| 03:03.36 | Supaplex | musashiden: check /var/log/dmesg to see if the kernel supports that much memory. |
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| 03:03.44 | zinx | musashiden: that's a different issue entirely |
| 03:04.24 | musashiden | its not. debian its just hiding the 1.5GB of ram |
| 03:04.35 | zinx | musashiden: No. |
| 03:04.53 | zinx | musashiden: it's most likely being used for cache, which will be free'd as soon as anything requests it. |
| 03:05.05 | zinx | musashiden: it has nothing to do with your 'server' just freezing. |
| 03:05.16 | musashiden | i mean freezing as in runs out of memory |
| 03:05.29 | zinx | musashiden: it doesn't freeze when it runs out of memory, it starts killing processes off. |
| 03:05.55 | musashiden | well it must be killing my putty shell service. heh |
| 03:05.59 | widrone | !swap |
| 03:05.59 | dpkg | i heard swap is still a useful and good thing to have, even with lots of available memory: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 03:06.03 | zinx | musashiden: doubtful |
| 03:06.14 | chealer | jasta: check the BTS |
| 03:06.20 | zinx | musashiden: it tells you when and what it kills via dmesg |
| 03:06.47 | Supaplex | !swapd |
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| 03:06.57 | Supaplex | swapd is handy sometimes to :) |
| 03:07.19 | Supaplex | esp in the old days when netscape gobbled up 479248018451058 bytes of ram (give or take) |
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| 03:07.35 | Naz__ | I setup netatalk on debian |
| 03:07.50 | Naz__ | and I hade a mounted hd in it at /mnt/hdb1 |
| 03:08.06 | Supaplex | !lart etn.fm's live stream |
| 03:08.12 | widrone | Supaplex: now there is something new to me, usually I just swapon and forget about it. Ill read up on it, thanks. |
| 03:08.13 | ricky_clarkson | 2.6.16 backported to sarge gives me some errors about IRQs. |
| 03:08.21 | Naz__ | when I try to connect to the netatalk server via my mac, its fine |
| 03:08.28 | ricky_clarkson | ide1: I/O resource 0x170-0x177 not free. |
| 03:08.44 | Naz__ | but when I try editing or uploading any files, all of the files dissapper from the windows |
| 03:08.45 | ricky_clarkson | irq 11: nobody cared (try booting with the "irqpoll" option) |
| 03:08.49 | ricky_clarkson | [which I trued] |
| 03:08.52 | ricky_clarkson | tried |
| 03:08.58 | Naz__ | but when I check the server, the files are still there |
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| 03:09.27 | Supaplex | widrone: I tweak the config to my taste. 8mb chuncks are a waste imo. I go for 64m at a time. and a little more apathy for cleanup (so it doesn't constantly hop between cleanup and reallocate). |
| 03:09.44 | Naz__ | anyone know about netatalk and that stuff? |
| 03:09.44 | Supaplex | cks/ks/ |
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| 03:11.57 | Naz__ | this only seems to happen on the mounted hd |
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| 03:12.41 | widrone | Makes me think of the time I debootstrapped an arm with 32mb ram and thinking something was crashing the box, until I figured out that without swap the sshd was being killed off. =/ |
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| 03:14.41 | ricky_clarkson | G'night people. |
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| 03:14.53 | christor | Please I have a time problem , in doing a tzconfig I put my hour and at the end I have Local time : 7:11 am instead of 5am and UTC : 5:11 and this is not the utc . UTC is 3:11 ?? |
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| 03:15.36 | dondelelcaro | christor: what does date --utc; and date; report? |
| 03:15.57 | christor | date --utc : Fri Jun 2 05:16:11 UTC 2006 |
| 03:16.22 | christor | date report 7:11 |
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| 03:16.38 | dondelelcaro | christor: and you're in +2, right? |
| 03:16.53 | christor | yes |
| 03:16.58 | dondelelcaro | christor: are you running windows on this machine? |
| 03:17.19 | christor | no |
| 03:17.22 | christor | debian |
| 03:17.34 | Naz__ | hello? |
| 03:17.42 | dondelelcaro | !set the time |
| 03:17.42 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 03:17.58 | christor | At the install I type enter too quicly on the are u utc time.. |
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| 03:18.06 | dondelelcaro | christor: see the instructions above; you just need to install ntpdate and possibly ntp-simple; if you've got a network setup. |
| 03:18.13 | christor | yes |
| 03:18.18 | dondelelcaro | christor: you want the machine's clock in UTC unless you're running windows. |
| 03:18.26 | dondelelcaro | christor: so that was the proper choice |
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| 03:20.22 | christor | dondelelcaro: I have only a debian on this mahcine, and at the install , there is : Do the hour is an UTC , I clicked yes , and in fact this was the local time. |
| 03:20.31 | christor | dondelelcaro: so now the machine think that the UTC = UTC+2 |
| 03:21.05 | dondelelcaro | christor: no, the question asks: is the bios's clock in UTC or localtime? You want the bios's clock to be kept in UTC, not localtime |
| 03:21.42 | christor | dondelelcaro: oops sorry , I don t know |
| 03:21.43 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they can help me get a gameport ms sidewinder gampad working? i've tried a number of things to try and it get it working, but no luck so far. free beer for anyone who can get it working! ;-) |
| 03:22.06 | christor | dondelelcaro: I will take a look , I m using the machine in remote |
| 03:22.27 | dondelelcaro | christor: doesn't really matter now; just use date --set to set the time appropriately. |
| 03:22.35 | dondelelcaro | christor: or install ntpdate and run it |
| 03:23.57 | christor | I have installed ntpdate |
| 03:24.27 | dondelelcaro | christor: and run it? |
| 03:24.43 | christor | dondelelcaro: arf no I was on the other machine |
| 03:24.45 | dondelelcaro | christor: something like ntpdate pool.ntp.org? |
| 03:24.47 | christor | dondelelcaro: it s ok |
| 03:24.55 | christor | with ntpdate the problem is resolved |
| 03:25.03 | christor | I though ntpdate was already installed |
| 03:25.42 | christor | and that the problem persited so I didn t understand |
| 03:25.45 | christor | it s ok thx |
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| 03:26.01 | dondelelcaro | np |
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| 03:26.34 | christor | too much prob with my linux :s |
| 03:26.40 | christor | hehehe viva linux |
| 03:27.12 | Naz__ | I have netatalk setup on debian |
| 03:27.19 | Naz__ | I set it up to use sfpd |
| 03:27.23 | Naz__ | afpd* |
| 03:27.33 | Naz__ | and when I try to share a mounted drive |
| 03:27.40 | Naz__ | I connect to it on my mac |
| 03:27.43 | Naz__ | and it looks fine |
| 03:27.49 | Naz__ | until I edit anything |
| 03:28.00 | Naz__ | such as uploading or deleting |
| 03:28.20 | Naz__ | then screen goes blank and says no items after I edit it |
| 03:28.30 | Naz__ | but when I look at the server again |
| 03:28.35 | Naz__ | all the files are there |
| 03:28.44 | Naz__ | and so is the files I changed |
| 03:28.49 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: please stop overusing enter |
| 03:28.54 | Naz__ | whats going on? |
| 03:28.56 | Naz__ | sry |
| 03:29.03 | christor | lol |
| 03:29.13 | jasta | sigh, i really just have no idea how to repair this font problem :( |
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| 03:29.52 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: do the files exist on the server? What macintosh OS are you using to connect to the share? |
| 03:30.07 | Naz__ | The files are on the server on a mounted HD. Tiger OSX |
| 03:30.29 | Naz__ | And I tried netatalk on a normal folder, and it works fine |
| 03:31.31 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: a folder is a folder is a folder; the only question is whether the filesystem that you're mounting is wonky, but if it's ext2 or something else sane it should be ok |
| 03:31.52 | Naz__ | everything on the server is ext3 |
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| 03:32.17 | Naz__ | I mean, its not too large right now |
| 03:32.31 | Naz__ | should I backup everything and format? |
| 03:32.31 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: and when you create the files on the netatalk share do you see them at all in the unix directory? can you see them in the .apple_double directory? |
| 03:32.58 | jasta | chealer: I can't find anything in the BTS but I'm not even sure what I should be searching for. |
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| 03:33.10 | Naz__ | after I upload, it goes blank, but when I check it in the server directly, they are all there |
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| 03:33.18 | chealer | jasta: which package(s) did you check? |
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| 03:33.21 | jasta | The best way I can describe the symptom is that nearly every X font looks very blurry, like it's overly anti-aliased. |
| 03:33.46 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: no, that won't help you. |
| 03:34.02 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: wait, you mean that OS X is dying, but the files have gone to the server just fine? |
| 03:34.27 | Naz__ | yup |
| 03:34.38 | dondelelcaro | well, you've got a problem with OS X then, not Debian. |
| 03:34.41 | chealer | jasta: I was talking about the x-ttcidfont-conf.defoma issue. The change in fonts seems to be normal. |
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| 03:34.43 | Naz__ | but its only on a mounted drive. All others work fine |
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| 03:34.51 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: all drives are mounted |
| 03:34.57 | jasta | chealer: defoma and x-ttcidfont-conf |
| 03:35.00 | Naz__ | not really, as I think its a netatalk problem |
| 03:35.02 | dondelelcaro | everything in the filesystem is on a drive that is mounted |
| 03:35.13 | Serinity | Hi everyone, is there any way to ask a DNS server about all domain name it takes care about ? |
| 03:35.16 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: it doesn't matter what netatalk is doing, it shouldn't be able to cause OS X to blow up. |
| 03:35.30 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: there may be a bug in netatalk as well, but the first bug is in OS X |
| 03:35.33 | Naz__ | yes, but its only on a drive that I mounted |
| 03:35.44 | Naz__ | oh wait, I might have bad fstab things |
| 03:35.56 | chealer | jasta: I guess you didn't look hard for x-ttcidfont-conf |
| 03:35.59 | Naz__ | bbs |
| 03:36.01 | jasta | chealer: defoma seemed to have very broken behaviour (thinking /usr/bin/mkfontdir and /usr/share/X11/fonts exist for example) |
| 03:36.02 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: mounted on the OS X machine? |
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| 03:36.07 | jasta | so i am thinking in that area... |
| 03:36.13 | Naz__ | the one I mounted on the server |
| 03:36.30 | dondelelcaro | Naz__: all directories on the server are mounted. |
| 03:36.31 | Naz__ | I remember have problems with this ever since I reinstalled and changed the fstab |
| 03:36.33 | dondelelcaro | by definition. |
| 03:36.40 | Naz__ | nvm |
| 03:36.42 | jasta | oh, double-width fonts? |
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| 03:36.45 | Naz__ | but thanks ffor the help |
| 03:36.58 | Naz__ | I'm going to try manually mounting the hdb |
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| 03:37.06 | Naz__ | it worked that way |
| 03:38.01 | onetinsoldier | jasta: are you getting an error 'mkfontdir: no such file or directory'...? |
| 03:38.08 | jasta | chealer: err, no, i'm afraid i'm not following you. |
| 03:38.25 | jasta | i did look at x-ttcidfont-conf, and i did not find anything like this bug. |
| 03:38.42 | jasta | onetinsoldier: Yes, but I worked around it by offering symlinks for its assumptions. |
| 03:38.58 | onetinsoldier | jasta: roger. i did the same thing |
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| 03:39.12 | jasta | onetinsoldier: But that is not really the problem, possibly just a symptom. |
| 03:39.33 | jasta | My fonts all appear too wide, thick, and blurry after an upgrade some time ago. |
| 03:39.40 | onetinsoldier | hmmm |
| 03:39.49 | onetinsoldier | i haven't had that problem |
| 03:39.53 | jasta | xmag can confirm that they are being anti-aliased VERY aggressively, in some cases widening the font significantly. |
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| 03:40.21 | chealer | jasta: see #365115, #366468, #365136, #365849, #367795, #367797, #368084 |
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| 03:41.07 | jasta | chealer: Are you saying that my work-around isn't expected to fix the problem? |
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| 03:42.12 | jasta | onetinsoldier: It seems no one has. Recently, I attempted to install Debian etch/AMD64 independent of this problem onto a new hard drive. After finding that etch/AMD64 is totally broken, I decided to use unstable to finish the installation...I had the same problem there! |
| 03:42.27 | jasta | Started up KDE and noticed all the fonts were unusually large and blurry. |
| 03:42.28 | chealer | jasta: I don't know what work-around you're referring to, I was talking about the x-ttcidfont-conf.defoma issue. |
| 03:42.57 | jasta | chealer: As I said, I made symlinks for /usr/bin/mkfontdir and other broken path assumptions |
| 03:43.06 | chealer | jasta: ah ok, I don't know that may fix it |
| 03:43.31 | jasta | I don't know for certain that defoma or x-ttcidfont-conf have anything to do with my blurry fonts issue. |
| 03:43.45 | jasta | I just guessed that they might, since Debian etch seems to be so busted these days. |
| 03:43.57 | chealer | jasta: me neither, I thought it was freetype |
| 03:43.58 | jasta | Like I said, this problem started following a dist-upgrade in etch. |
| 03:45.17 | jasta | I really don't even know where to begin debugging something like this. Can anyone think of an extremely primitive application that should let me test font rendering correctness? |
| 03:45.31 | jasta | I've noticed that KDE and GNOME both tend to behave in a slightly inconsistent manner with regard to this problem. |
| 03:45.40 | Supaplex | gimp ? |
| 03:45.45 | jasta | In fact, in thunderbird, it seems to be that certain fonts are anti-aliased correctly. |
| 03:46.03 | jasta | I have set the same font, but xmag demonstrates that GAIM and thunderbird are clearly not rendering the font the same way. |
| 03:46.25 | jasta | Also, my urxvt terminals suddenly became fuzzy and strange. |
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| 03:46.34 | jasta | but I did not change the font it uses. |
| 03:47.02 | tr011 | there is a way to run a command just before to close a session? |
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| 03:47.14 | jasta | I thought maybe the brokenness could be related to Bitstream Vera, but I tried other fonts with no success. They all render too wide and blurry. |
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| 03:48.03 | tr011 | i mean that when i run 'exit' or ctrl+D before to close the session, automaticaly run some command |
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| 03:48.30 | jasta | brb, I have a couple of ideas I want to try... |
| 03:48.34 | Coweater | jasta: gfontview? |
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| 03:48.45 | chealer | tr011: a bash session? |
| 03:48.53 | tr011 | chealer, yes, a bash session |
| 03:48.57 | Rossalee | Hello~~~ |
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| 03:49.16 | chealer | tr011: search for "logout" in man bash |
| 03:50.03 | tr011 | chealer, thanks |
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| 03:50.45 | _ericb | hi all |
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| 03:53.15 | jasta | Is there a convenient way to entirely disable anti-aliasing in the X server? |
| 03:53.15 | jasta | So that I can confirm my suspicion that it isn't the fonts that are broken, it's the AA engine. |
| 03:53.21 | pingu | Comment the modules in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 03:53.24 | pingu | Or xfree. |
| 03:53.35 | jasta | Which module controls it, I mean? |
| 03:53.48 | jasta | freetype? |
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| 03:55.56 | phaedrus4 | i cant get the xserver back u.... |
| 03:56.26 | phaedrus4 | i did apt-get remove --purge xdm xserver-xfree86 |
| 03:56.47 | phaedrus4 | and then reinstall, put the same values back in that were ther before and nothing... |
| 03:57.16 | jasta | pingu: I commented out freetype, and it is still clearly anti-aliased. |
| 03:57.16 | raden | can anyone tell me which Intel CPU gonna be best bang for buck is dual core worth the extra price etc ? |
| 03:58.07 | _ericb | I want to "clone" my current config so it can easily be reused easily ? like making a "clone cd" that boots and restore a filesystem dump ? |
| 03:58.10 | phaedrus4 | i get this Fatal server error: |
| 03:58.10 | phaedrus4 | no screens found |
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| 04:01.40 | blaheva | i know to use ipv6 i need to modprobe two modules, one is ipv6 what is the other one? |
| 04:01.47 | phaedrus4 | 4? |
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| 04:02.14 | chealer | raden: ask #hardware, or #not-debian |
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| 04:02.35 | sid | !tetrinet |
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| 04:02.35 | dpkg | tetrinet is probably multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
| 04:03.18 | jasta | I really would like to find a way to truly disable anti-aliasing independent of any specific configuration. This should be possible in Xorg.conf. |
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| 04:04.02 | sanmarcos | how would I setup a limeted user on my system? i.e chrooted and with only acess to basic commands? |
| 04:04.14 | zinx | jasta: pretty much everything that does antialiasing uses fonts.conf / ~/.fonts.conf |
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| 04:05.47 | jasta | Hmm. Unloading the freetype module fixed the problem for KDE. What the hell is going on here!? |
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| 04:07.20 | no0ke | how do i restart my 'sound'? |
| 04:07.29 | jasta | well, not quite fixed. Bold fonts still look absolutely ridiculous. |
| 04:08.41 | Rizzer | no0ke: /etc/init.d/alsa restart ? |
| 04:09.02 | blaheva | ok, you need the modules tun and ipv6. and to do a MAKEDEV tun in /dev |
| 04:09.04 | sid | k/j 2 |
| 04:09.07 | Rizzer | or is it /etc/init.d/alsa-utils , I can never remember |
| 04:09.09 | blaheva | for future reference |
| 04:10.01 | jasta | zinx: With anti-aliasing turned off in fonts.conf, the width of the fonts seems to be correct, but this still doesn't help me figure out which system is responsible for anti-aliasing the fonts incorrectly (blurring the crap out of them) |
| 04:10.21 | zinx | jasta: are you using a LCD screen? |
| 04:10.26 | jasta | can you even venture a guess so i have something to go on? |
| 04:10.27 | jasta | zinx: no. |
| 04:10.35 | no0ke | coz when i play music, it goes 1 second faster than normal |
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| 04:11.17 | jasta | the anti-aliasing seems to be more aggressive than i tusually is. normally, for example, a "j" is a straight line 1 pixel wide with slight hinting on the hook. now, it is producing an image that is almost 2 pixels wide. |
| 04:11.21 | jasta | along the straight part |
| 04:11.32 | jasta | which lends to fonts looking bulky, wide, and hard to ride. |
| 04:11.38 | widrone | no0ke: So it plays 60 sec in 59 sec? |
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| 04:11.57 | zinx | jasta: probably different fonts |
| 04:12.00 | no0ke | no, the thing is faster |
| 04:12.07 | no0ke | it sounds like a cartoon when i play it |
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| 04:12.19 | jasta | zinx: with anti-aliasing turned off in ~/.fonts.conf, certain systems are at liberty to choose different fonts entirely? |
| 04:12.29 | zinx | jasta: eh? |
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| 04:12.57 | roler | is devilspie the pretty much only way to get a gnome-terminal to not have a border/title bar? |
| 04:13.00 | zinx | jasta: antialiasing can make fonts take more pixels.. in fact, that's usually what it ends up doing |
| 04:13.04 | jasta | you said probably different fonts. with anti-aliasing off, the fonts look "correct", but without subtle smoothing hints. |
| 04:13.11 | jasta | with it on, they widen and blur far more than they used to. |
| 04:13.18 | zinx | jasta: also, hints are not what you think they are |
| 04:13.39 | zinx | jasta: hints are for *avoiding* antialiasing -- the problem, most likely, is that the fonts you're using have no hints, so no hinting can be done |
| 04:13.59 | jasta | zinx: Why would this happen following a dist-upgrade? |
| 04:14.01 | zinx | jasta: the "different fonts" was maybe you're used to fonts that actually have hints |
| 04:14.07 | zinx | jasta: it very well could |
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| 04:14.13 | zinx | jasta: dist-upgrades are evil |
| 04:14.29 | zinx | jasta: make sure you have all the font packages, first |
| 04:14.41 | jasta | zinx: I noticed that without the freetype module, many of the problems in KDE specifically are resolved. The fonts are much smoother and thinner. |
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| 04:14.54 | jasta | that is, if i comment LoadModule "freetype" in Xorg.conf. |
| 04:15.08 | zinx | jasta: that would be different fonts being chosen - possibly even ones that can't be antialiased |
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| 04:15.22 | zinx | jasta: there's an option for freetype to use hinting or not, IIRC |
| 04:15.30 | zinx | jasta: in the package configuration |
| 04:15.30 | jasta | zinx: No, they are anti-aliased. Xmag can prove this. |
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| 04:15.37 | zinx | jasta: you may try reconfiguring it to use hinting |
| 04:15.45 | Aconitic | whats up |
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| 04:15.52 | jasta | zinx: In ~/.fonts.conf, there is a hinting option, and it is set to true, with a style of "medium". |
| 04:16.10 | jasta | Is the setting you're referring to different than that? |
| 04:16.28 | zinx | jasta: almost certainly |
| 04:16.37 | jasta | Where is that stored then? |
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| 04:16.56 | zinx | jasta: i'm not certain |
| 04:17.01 | zinx | jasta: i'm trying to locate it |
| 04:17.11 | jasta | But you say it is particular to freetype? In what context, the X module? |
| 04:17.20 | Aconitic | i just got an old comp with win 95 on it, except it doesnt have ps2 ports |
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| 04:17.55 | Aconitic | i was gona set up an ftp box with it to :( |
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| 04:19.05 | jasta | zinx: Ah-ha! After you explained the hinting style, I decided to set it to "Full" in .fonts.conf, and it now renders correctly. |
| 04:19.25 | zinx | jasta: ah, ok |
| 04:19.32 | michael383 | does anyone have hardware acceleration working with an i945? |
| 04:19.33 | Gnea | Aconitic: most older computers don't have ps2 ports. |
| 04:19.42 | jasta | Thank you -- what must have happened is that the default got set to medium. I assumed it meant the opposite, and tried tweaking it lower than that. |
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| 04:19.59 | jasta | I had no idea that hinting or anti-aliasing was even the problem at first, so I tried lots of different things. |
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| 04:20.13 | zinx | jasta: hinting is basically "it's ok to move this line this many pixels to make it directly on a line of pixels" |
| 04:20.36 | zinx | jasta: instead of "this line must always be inbetween a line of pixels so you have to antialias" |
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| 04:21.16 | somedude | is there a debian on a disk distro i can use to make a nat router |
| 04:21.26 | Aconitic | i know i was just saying it sucks cause it was free |
| 04:21.29 | jasta | ahh, that's much better :) |
| 04:21.33 | Gnea | samuel: probably, check www.distrowatch.com |
| 04:21.44 | jasta | my eyes no longer feel like they want to leap out of my skull :) |
| 04:22.21 | Aconitic | ok well im setting up a new single user box on a 6.5 gb hdd |
| 04:22.31 | Aconitic | any help with how i should partition? |
| 04:22.44 | Gnea | uhm, just do it? |
| 04:23.03 | Gnea | i'd give most of it to /usr |
| 04:23.09 | Aconitic | i mean what sizes for what |
| 04:23.22 | jasta | thanks zinx. |
| 04:23.23 | Gnea | just match ram on the swap and throw it all on one |
| 04:23.39 | k-god | Aconitic: Much as I'm fond of multiple partitions, at 6.5 GB, / and swap would be most of it. |
| 04:23.46 | Gnea | i might give /usr 3 gig, / 1 gig and the rest to /home |
| 04:24.11 | k-god | Aconitic: 2-3x RAM swap, possibly a rescue partition, though with Knoppix even that's not particularly necessary. |
| 04:24.21 | freakazoid0223 | acnonitic: if you plug a kybd and mouse in to the usb ports most distros will find them......I think :/ |
| 04:24.22 | no0ke | what's the problem when i play music, it sounds like im fast-forwarding it, sounds like a cartoon? |
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| 04:24.40 | k-god | no0ke: What playback tool? |
| 04:24.43 | Gnea | k-god: why 2-3x ram swap? |
| 04:24.47 | no0ke | xmms |
| 04:24.47 | zinx | k-god: i'd be using that entire drive for swap :D |
| 04:24.53 | no0ke | k-god: xmms |
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| 04:25.14 | no0ke | k-god: all my players does it |
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| 04:25.36 | k-god | no0ke: Sounds like bad encoding. Sometimes you can work around that with sox cmdlines when using sox. |
| 04:25.43 | k-god | Aconitic: http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/NixPartitioning |
| 04:26.10 | k-god | Aconitic: ... is my general guidance for partitioning. 6.5 GB is pretty small by current standards, though. |
| 04:26.19 | no0ke | k-god: it happend like 2 mins ago |
| 04:26.27 | k-god | no0ke: NFC, sorry. |
| 04:26.41 | no0ke | what's NFC |
| 04:26.45 | Aconitic | ok i did 6 gigs for / |
| 04:26.50 | Aconitic | and 500megs for swap |
| 04:26.58 | Aconitic | and i guess ill just do the rest with folders |
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| 04:27.08 | Gnea | !nfc |
| 04:27.08 | dpkg | nfc is, like, No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 04:27.10 | no0ke | !nfc |
| 04:27.20 | Aconitic | 6.5 small? |
| 04:27.23 | k-god | Gnea: two reasons: swap is there when you have stuff hogging ram, there's no such problem as "too much swap" (there *is* a problem called "too much RAM"), and it's a lot easier to overcommit swap and add memory later than to try to add swap partitions after the fact. |
| 04:27.30 | Gnea | Aconitic: very. |
| 04:27.40 | k-god | Gnea: ... and I can't count to two. |
| 04:27.44 | Aconitic | damn for me its always been bigger then 2 gigs is like giant |
| 04:27.54 | Gnea | k-god: :) |
| 04:27.57 | Aconitic | not using de's tho |
| 04:28.06 | k-god | Aconitic: My apt-cache is usually floating around 800 - 1500 MB. |
| 04:28.10 | Gnea | Aconitic: how much ram do you have? |
| 04:28.13 | Aconitic | 192 |
| 04:28.27 | Aconitic | this isnt my main computer |
| 04:28.33 | Aconitic | that im setting up now |
| 04:28.43 | Gnea | obviously |
| 04:28.46 | Aconitic | its just going to be a download drone |
| 04:29.09 | Gnea | should be fine then |
| 04:29.17 | k-god | Aconitic: Much of the remaining factors depend on how you set the system up. And believe me, I'm swallowing a lot of bile suggesting Just One Partition. |
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| 04:30.03 | Aconitic | my first was like 1200 megs |
| 04:30.27 | k-god | Aconitic: You 'ad 1200 megs? You were *looky* |
| 04:30.43 | k-god | We had three bytes. And two of 'em didna werk. |
| 04:30.48 | Aconitic | hah |
| 04:31.24 | Aconitic | is there anything like peer-guardian for debian |
| 04:31.33 | tuv | gkrelltop won't show nice'd processes started from cron.. why? |
| 04:31.35 | k-god | Dunno. What's peer-gaurdian? |
| 04:31.48 | k-god | tuv: It doesn't? Restricted by user? |
| 04:31.55 | Aconitic | its a BT addon, suppose to block all known ips of bad people |
| 04:32.03 | Aconitic | like people looking to get others in truble |
| 04:32.05 | Aconitic | truble* |
| 04:32.10 | Aconitic | trouble*** |
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| 04:32.21 | k-god | Aconitic: Don't 'torrent warez. |
| 04:32.30 | Aconitic | i dont |
| 04:32.34 | zinx | i torrentted ubuntu.. does that make me a bad person? |
| 04:32.46 | Aconitic | yes |
| 04:32.50 | k-god | zinx: Frivolous, possibly. But not bad. |
| 04:32.50 | zinx | :~( |
| 04:33.12 | Aconitic | is amnyone here a demonoid member? |
| 04:33.48 | tuv | k-god, no.. i just started openssl speed as root and it should up.. but it disappeared when i ran it nice'd.. |
| 04:34.07 | k-god | tuv: ps wuaux | grep [o]penssl |
| 04:34.22 | k-god | tuv: ... or simialr. Um. Minus the additional 'u'. 'waux' should be sufficient. |
| 04:34.23 | tuv | k-god, there is an option for including nice'd processes, but this is running over gkrellmd and although it's enabled it's not working |
| 04:34.34 | k-god | tuv: Just Use ps. |
| 04:34.53 | xbmodder_lappy | lol |
| 04:35.12 | tuv | k-god, i could use top for that matter, but gkrellm is compact and rich! |
| 04:35.17 | k-god | 'xload' excepted. |
| 04:35.22 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 04:35.33 | k-god | Shadowcat: sh! |
| 04:35.50 | tuv | k-god, i guess you'll have to make an exception for me :) |
| 04:36.46 | tuv | it's running off a machine that's got no X |
| 04:37.22 | Shadowcat | personally I think X adds unnecessary complexity to a linux system |
| 04:37.36 | Shadowcat | QT and GTK should run directly off the framebuffer |
| 04:38.11 | Shadowcat | that way we can eliminate 90% of all the pebkacs who "accidently" kill X, and who aren't smart enough to use a console if their lives depended on it |
| 04:39.41 | sid | Shadowcat: Is that how windows does it? |
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| 04:40.04 | tuv | if we had no X, gnome and kde apps probably wouldn't run on the same display! |
| 04:40.05 | Shadowcat | sid: that's exactly how windows does it |
| 04:40.18 | Shadowcat | in windows the gui is the equivalent of /bin/sh |
| 04:40.33 | Shadowcat | you CAN'T knock it out, not without crippling the whole system |
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| 04:40.56 | tuv | that's probably why windows crashes more often |
| 04:40.56 | sid | I don't know what a framebuffer is, or what X is really. |
| 04:41.17 | Shadowcat | tuv: windows crashes because of user incompetence |
| 04:41.18 | sid | framebuffer is a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn |
| 04:41.30 | sid | But I'm not sure what that means. How is that different from X? |
| 04:41.38 | Shadowcat | framebuffer+dri is basically hardware acceleration on the kernel level |
| 04:41.48 | Shadowcat | whereas X was developed to provide that in an age where those didn't exist |
| 04:41.56 | peterS | Shadowcat: talk is cheap. if you think X is unnecessary complexity, work on the replacement |
| 04:42.22 | Shadowcat | peterS: I'm reading through the QT code, been doing so for a while now |
| 04:42.26 | tuv | Shadowcat, if that's the case, then linux would crash more often than windows, as it's more difficult for users |
| 04:42.26 | peterS | Shadowcat: I think you'll find that a lot of the complexity of X is either (a) mythical, or (b) necessary |
| 04:42.30 | k-god | Shadowcat: That's somewhat inaccurate (WRT GUI). |
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| 04:42.56 | Shadowcat | tuv: Linux users are generally more computer savvy than their windows counterparts |
| 04:42.59 | k-god | Shadowcat: the windows "shell" is explorer.exe, which is roughly equivalent to, say, bash. |
| 04:43.14 | peterS | Shadowcat: there's a *reason* even little bitty iPAQ Linux distributions use X. it's just not that heavy for what it provides. |
| 04:43.18 | k-god | Shadowcat: ... not 'zactly sure what's running the graphics layer itself. |
| 04:43.32 | Shadowcat | hmm |
| 04:43.42 | Shadowcat | guess I need a better understanding |
| 04:43.46 | Aconitic | are all the mirrors the same? |
| 04:43.50 | tuv | i personally switched from windows for its frequent crashes at all levels of severity.. you can't keep explorer.exe continuously running without crashing for more than a day |
| 04:43.50 | Shadowcat | I'll get back to RTFM soon eough |
| 04:43.58 | k-god | Shadowcat: Try killing explorer next time you're on a 'Doze box. |
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| 04:44.05 | peterS | Aconitic: no, these days mirror admins get to choose which architectures they want to mirror |
| 04:44.09 | Shadowcat | tuv: I've kept it up for over a month |
| 04:44.12 | k-god | Aconitic: Some are front-silvered, some are back-mirrored.... |
| 04:44.19 | peterS | Aconitic: in the past, they were supposed to mirror all of them, but now they've got a choice |
| 04:44.20 | Aconitic | uh |
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| 04:44.27 | Shadowcat | right, back to work |
| 04:44.28 | Aconitic | well im setting up a net install, which should i choose |
| 04:44.34 | Aconitic | im in the us |
| 04:44.44 | peterS | Aconitic: then http.us.debian.org is probably as good as anything |
| 04:44.55 | tuv | proabably on a screensaver.. were you out of town? |
| 04:44.57 | Aconitic | ftp? |
| 04:45.00 | k-god | Aconitic: The primary mirrors are mostly distinguished by where they are, response, and bandwidth. Secondary mirrors may be out of date. Primaries frequently round-robin. (eg: http.<country>.debian.org |
| 04:45.07 | peterS | Aconitic: http is usually faster than ftp, but take your pick |
| 04:45.14 | Aconitic | oh i thought ftp was faster |
| 04:45.34 | peterS | not in my experience. for anonymous downloads, I don't see much point in ftp anymore |
| 04:45.36 | k-god | Aconitic: Theoretically on large downloads. Session negotiation takes a while. |
| 04:45.44 | pgmr | depends on how you do it, if you're logging in for every request its slower |
| 04:45.45 | peterS | it's still good for uploads and authenticated transfers |
| 04:45.57 | k-god | peterS: cleartext auth loses. |
| 04:46.23 | k-god | peterS: rsync, scp, and $VERSION_CONTROL_SYSTEM_OF_YOUR_BIAS win. |
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| 04:49.07 | peterS | there are situations where the risk of someone sniffing the password is smaller than the risk that your customer gives out the password freely. and the customer doesn't have convenient access to real unix tools |
| 04:49.51 | k-god | peterS: In a world of cygwin, putty, and knoppix, that excuse is wearing awefully thin. |
| 04:49.52 | tuv | how do i install publicfile server on debian? |
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| 04:50.18 | valdyn | tuv: apt-get install apache |
| 04:50.19 | peterS | tuv: decide what protocols you want to support, then look for (or ask about) servers for those protocols |
| 04:50.54 | tuv | i want a lightweight http server that supports resume |
| 04:50.55 | valdyn | tuv: or any other server of you choice, there's many |
| 04:51.22 | tuv | why can't i ask about publicfile? |
| 04:51.26 | k-god | tuv: apache. |
| 04:51.37 | peterS | tuv: what is publicfile? I've never heard of it |
| 04:51.40 | k-god | tuv: "publicfile" isn't a particularly recognized term, speaking for myself. |
| 04:51.48 | zOap | how do I add a kernel module to the blacklist? is it just a listing of the actual kernel name(from modconf)? |
| 04:51.52 | tuv | http://cr.yp.to/publicfile.html |
| 04:52.04 | tuv | it's from the creator of qmail |
| 04:52.06 | zOap | mod name that is |
| 04:52.18 | peterS | tuv: yeah, anything from djb makes me suspicious |
| 04:52.19 | k-god | tuv: That's reason enough to avoid it. |
| 04:52.20 | zinx | oh god, djbware |
| 04:52.25 | k-god | Heh. |
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| 04:52.39 | tuv | peterS, k-god: how come? he is a security guy |
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| 04:52.43 | k-god | tuv: It's probably very secure. |
| 04:52.50 | k-god | tuv: ... and a pain in the ass to set up, and non-free. |
| 04:53.00 | valdyn | tuv: it's probably not free software |
| 04:53.04 | peterS | tuv: he also doesn't allow most of his software in debian, due to strange ideas about licensing |
| 04:53.06 | tuv | peterS, k-god: and qmail is evidence enough of how good his tools are |
| 04:53.16 | k-god | tuv: ... with various nonstandard bits about it. |
| 04:53.23 | k-god | tuv: Um. Yeah, my point exactly. |
| 04:53.33 | peterS | tuv: qmail is evidence of many things. foremost, how non-standard his tools are, and how hard to manage them |
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| 04:54.09 | k-god | tuv: ... not to mention largley unmaintained by djb resulting in a patchfile support network as the core code is non-free and can't be freely distributed and modified. |
| 04:54.15 | tuv | peterS, and how successful and reliable |
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| 04:54.45 | k-god | tuv: Thanks. I've admined qmail for 16000 users. Your point? |
| 04:54.54 | Gnea | !qmail |
| 04:54.55 | dpkg | i heard qmail is a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html |
| 04:55.08 | peterS | tuv: thanks to his licensing policy, nobody can release bug-fixed versions of his software except him. so you end up with piles of patches floating around. piles of patches sound like lots of fun but in reality they're not really |
| 04:55.29 | Gnea | tuv: qmail is one of the worst pieces of shit on the planet. |
| 04:55.38 | tuv | oops |
| 04:55.44 | k-god | tuv: Talking to some very security-minded folks, BTW, and with a mind that spam is a bigger problem than remote MTA exploits today, postfix gets very strongly recommended. |
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| 04:55.52 | peterS | tuv: yeah, you kind of came to the wrong place to talk about how great djbware is (: we mainly don't care for it |
| 04:56.08 | k-god | Gnea: That's a bit of a stretch. I'd say it's not a preferred MTA choice on a balanced selection criteria basis, and it's non-free. |
| 04:56.09 | midgetarg | I suppose this isn't a good time to ask a qmail question then |
| 04:56.20 | k-god | midgetarg: Oh, I don't know about that. |
| 04:56.27 | k-god | midgetarg: ... I think we're just getting warmed up... ;-) |
| 04:56.31 | Gnea | k-god: that's enough justification to call it one of the worst pieces of shit on the planet. :) |
| 04:56.32 | peterS | tuv: as for FTP servers, probably the one most recommended around here is vsftpd. it's written by Red Hat but still is quite good. |
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| 04:56.41 | tuv | i suspect this would be your openions if the license were more open |
| 04:56.44 | k-god | Gnea: Two words: Exchange Server |
| 04:56.50 | cenobyte_evil | is etch bleeding edge? |
| 04:56.53 | k-god | Gnea: ... and two more: Lotus Notes. |
| 04:56.59 | k-god | cenobyte_evil: sid or experimental. |
| 04:57.03 | peterS | tuv: if the license allowed someone else to release modified versions of qmail, most of its problems could be fixed. yes. |
| 04:57.15 | cenobyte_evil | sid |
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| 04:58.04 | Gnea | tuv: i'd rather use sendmail than qmail. |
| 04:58.09 | tuv | well.. i'm still looking for a lightweight http server.. as light as possible.. the only feature i care about is resume support |
| 04:58.13 | peterS | tuv: as it is, due to the pile-of-patches methodology, it's hard for a qmail admin to keep up with the state of the art in mail servers. qmail was state of the art 10 years ago, perhaps, but it really isn't anymore |
| 04:58.21 | midgetarg | heh well I'll give it a shot... I have a fresh install of qmail/vpopmail that I am trying to copy my backups of the users' Maildirs to. When they log in and try to dl a mail message, though, it gives them a RETR error and says it can't process the email. Is there a way to restore the Maildirs other than just copying them in? |
| 04:58.25 | k-god | Gnea: Ugh... |
| 04:58.34 | cenobyte_evil | tuv, i don'tknow about what features... but check out monkey web |
| 04:58.37 | cenobyte_evil | is small |
| 04:58.43 | cenobyte_evil | it is* |
| 04:58.43 | k-god | Gnea: Speaking of which: NetBSD dropped Sendmail in its default config. |
| 04:58.50 | k-god | Gnea: ... costing Sendmail 4 users ... |
| 04:58.52 | Gnea | k-god: i know. |
| 04:59.01 | k-god | Gnea: ... and about 15,082 architectures. |
| 04:59.05 | peterS | tuv: you can try lighttpd, but honestly, I doubt you'll notice a performance difference between that and apache. people with gigabyte links to the internet, after all, aren't using 10-year-old servers to serve them. |
| 04:59.22 | rajulocal | In yahoo chats, one can know whether a user is away or not by looking at the away message. is such a thing possible for irc's as well? I am using konversation in sid if that matters. |
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| 04:59.30 | tuv | k-god, :D |
| 04:59.37 | k-god | rajulocal: /whois <user> |
| 04:59.42 | k-god | rajulocal: ... shows idle time. |
| 04:59.44 | Gnea | tuv: if qmail could keep up with the times, then it would rock. Sadly, it doesn't, and the author is therefore a fucking idiot. |
| 04:59.58 | k-god | rajulocal: You can set an /away but it's discouraged in busy channels. |
| 05:00.20 | rajulocal | k-god: I want it to be displayed under each user's name as to how long they have been idle. |
| 05:00.22 | Gnea | k-god: /away is fine, as long as it's not noisy |
| 05:00.35 | peterS | rajulocal: you can do '/whois somebody' in most IRC clients to get a person's away flag status. some people use the away feature, some don't. |
| 05:00.52 | tuv | Gnea, some people are using this very arguement against debian! |
| 05:00.55 | k-god | rajulocal: Sounds like a client issue. Generally where I'm at I can either /whois the user, ask the bot, or just beat 'em over the head. |
| 05:01.00 | peterS | rajulocal: idle times are reported by the irc server, but freenode's servers generally don't report these anymore, I guess for privacy reasons |
| 05:01.21 | Gnea | tuv: for what purpose? |
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| 05:01.50 | tuv | Gnea, for not keeping up with the times.. espacially stable |
| 05:01.53 | midgetarg | no bites on the qmail question? doh ;-P |
| 05:01.57 | Gnea | tuv: debian maintains a free distribution that anyone can alter. |
| 05:02.07 | Gnea | tuv: oh stable keeps up with the times, have you never heard of backports? |
| 05:02.09 | Gnea | !backports |
| 05:02.09 | dpkg | backports is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 05:02.11 | peterS | tuv: anyway, I suggest you try lighttpd and apache. I doubt you will find apache too heavyweight for your tastes, even though it's much more feature-heavy than lighttpd. machines are too big and too fast to notice the load from something as small as a web server, anymore |
| 05:02.18 | tuv | Gnea, well.. everything has its strengths and weaknesses |
| 05:02.33 | Gnea | tuv: that's pretty funny that you've been influenced by uneducated people. |
| 05:02.39 | peterS | tuv: unless you're still using a 486 with 16 MB of RAM, then lighttpd will make a difference |
| 05:02.51 | tuv | peterS, i'm talking about an nslu2: 133MHz with 32MB ram |
| 05:03.05 | Phated | 32 megs? Luxury! ;) |
| 05:03.17 | peterS | tuv: yeah, with 32 MB you might notice. try both, see what you think. lighttpd is expressly designed to be small. |
| 05:03.32 | peterS | Phated: what's your current machine got, again? you used to have a 32 MB box, as I recall |
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| 05:03.41 | peterS | or was it 64 |
| 05:03.56 | tuv | Gnea, i don't care about people's education as long as the argument makes sense.. and i'm refusing your arguement for the same reason i'm refusing theirs |
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| 05:04.26 | Gnea | tuv: you should care about education, because without it, people are fucked. |
| 05:04.33 | Phated | peterS: Current is a gig, used to be 64. |
| 05:04.40 | Gnea | tuv: but care about what you like |
| 05:04.56 | tuv | Gnea, you can tell from their arguments.. |
| 05:05.03 | peterS | tuv: finally: if you want to use publicfile, you won't find it in debian, since we are not allowed to ship it in binary form (and we refuse to ship source-only or completely-unmodified software). but I'm sure you can get it from djb's site and compile it yourself. |
| 05:05.04 | Gnea | tuv: seriously, their argument doesn't make a shread of sense. |
| 05:05.07 | rolo | how do i start my soundcard |
| 05:05.11 | cenobyte_evil | :-p |
| 05:05.43 | peterS | Phated: nice. I really can't complain about my 512 MB, but sometimes I do notice that I could do with more |
| 05:05.54 | Phated | peterS: Couldn't we all :) |
| 05:05.58 | cenobyte_evil | 512? |
| 05:06.02 | cenobyte_evil | i hate you |
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| 05:06.15 | cenobyte_evil | respectfuly |
| 05:06.49 | rolo | how do i start my soundcard |
| 05:06.53 | Phated | Heh, don't worry, I used to run of 64. |
| 05:06.54 | peterS | Phated: remember dan2? haven't seen him around in a long time. a couple years ago he apparently had an amd64 with 12 GB in it. spoiled kid. |
| 05:06.57 | Phated | s/of/off/ |
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| 05:07.18 | Phated | peterS: Oh yeah, I remember dan2. Saw him recently, in fact. But yes, he's a very spoilt brat, he is. |
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| 05:07.36 | deadcat | Phated: really? hahha.. |
| 05:07.38 | cenobyte_evil | you know, debian by far is the fastest install i've done it along time |
| 05:07.48 | Phated | deadcat: 'really', what? |
| 05:07.51 | Gnea | cenobyte_evil: why do you cry? the ram is so cheap nowadays... i used to run 8 and then 32 megs for a longass time |
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| 05:07.59 | deadcat | Phated: dan2 |
| 05:08.05 | Phated | deadcat: Who knows. |
| 05:08.09 | onetinsoldier | hi. i'm trying to run xhangglider. but it doesn do anything. anyone else able to tell me if it works for them? |
| 05:08.22 | peterS | so how many people here remember when he was beta3, before he changed his nick to be more like bob2? |
| 05:08.31 | k-god | !tell rolo about set up sound |
| 05:08.34 | peterS | (another person we haven't seen in awhile) |
| 05:08.34 | Phated | He was beta3? I don't believe I ever met beta3. |
| 05:08.38 | deadcat | Phated: he told me he was gonna sue someone or something and get rich and move to California or something |
| 05:08.44 | cenobyte_evil | i'm stuck with 240 untill i get off my butt and upgrade |
| 05:08.49 | deadcat | Phated: ya. beta3 or beta<something> |
| 05:08.58 | Phated | deadcat: Cooool. did it work? |
| 05:09.00 | cenobyte_evil | i spent the upgrade moneys on roswell.... |
| 05:09.07 | Phated | BWAHAHAHA |
| 05:09.12 | deadcat | Phated: i dont know. havent seen him in a while. |
| 05:09.19 | peterS | !beta3 |
| 05:09.20 | dpkg | i guess beta3 is a damaged part of the abandoned T-1000 brought back to life to destroy sussudio |
| 05:09.22 | Gnea | deadcat: heh, california... |
| 05:09.47 | k-god | Phated: Where'd you run into him? |
| 05:09.59 | Gnea | california is doomed anyway |
| 05:10.11 | deadcat | Phated: i cant believe the local sports store let me return my running shorts. (= HAHAHAHAHHAH |
| 05:10.14 | k-god | Gnea: In the next big earthquake ... |
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| 05:10.25 | deadcat | nasssty |
| 05:10.26 | k-god | Gnea: ... everything east of the Mississippi will slide into the Atlantic. |
| 05:10.27 | cam | is there an equivalent of winscp on debian ? |
| 05:10.31 | cenobyte_evil | hey, can someone help me out with my lifes dream, getting a frameless border terminal on the desktop .... |
| 05:10.35 | deadcat | cam: scp |
| 05:10.47 | cam | sure, scp, but with a gui interface ;) |
| 05:10.50 | Gnea | k-god: eh? |
| 05:10.51 | rolo | k-god: i dont understand that |
| 05:10.53 | k-god | cam: Looking for a GUI scp transfer? |
| 05:10.55 | cenobyte_evil | People get tellling to to google and so on, i can't find what i need to know |
| 05:10.57 | deadcat | cam: sftp |
| 05:11.00 | cam | k-god, yes |
| 05:11.01 | k-god | cam: konqueror, mc, putty. |
| 05:11.05 | adamant1988 | Hey is anyone here using the enlightenment GUI on debian etch? |
| 05:11.06 | cenobyte_evil | help me |
| 05:11.12 | sid | !tell adamant1988 about anyone |
| 05:11.13 | k-god | cam: Yes, putty is ported to Linux. |
| 05:11.16 | Gnea | cenobyte_evil: you should install enlightenment |
| 05:11.17 | rolo | ACTION takes sound package and apply dpkg --force `killall` --hold sound's head --unpack sound'brains --tar-file sound's body ,,,,, what do i need to do |
| 05:11.18 | sid | !tell adamant1988 about ask |
| 05:11.23 | Gnea | cenobyte_evil: and eterm |
| 05:11.26 | k-god | adamant1988: rasterman |
| 05:11.37 | cenobyte_evil | enlightenment? |
| 05:11.39 | cenobyte_evil | ewwwwwww |
| 05:11.45 | Gnea | cenobyte_evil: i've been using E since version 0.13.3, what do you want to know? |
| 05:11.46 | cenobyte_evil | window maker! |
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| 05:11.52 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: i was using it just a minute ago. i'm in xfce 4.4beta right now |
| 05:12.15 | Gnea | cenobyte_evil: no way, where've you been? WM is abandonware :) |
| 05:12.16 | Phated | Ooo, 4.4beta is out? |
| 05:12.22 | adamant1988 | Well I'm just curious really, I'm considering installing it when I install etch. |
| 05:12.28 | deadcat | screenshot 4.4beta please |
| 05:12.31 | cenobyte_evil | lies |
| 05:12.32 | cenobyte_evil | lies |
| 05:12.34 | tuv | cam, just use your file browser! |
| 05:12.36 | adamant1988 | I want to know how it's working out for everyone and if they've lost any functionality |
| 05:12.48 | tuv | cam, or maybe gftp |
| 05:12.49 | cenobyte_evil | i love window maker |
| 05:12.52 | peterS | yeah does E even still exist? |
| 05:12.52 | deadcat | cam: whats wrong with sftp? |
| 05:12.58 | Gnea | !windowmaker |
| 05:12.58 | dpkg | somebody said windowmaker was the BRAZILIAN window manager, flexible and highly configurable. Developed by Alfredo K. Kojima <kojima@conectiva.com.br>. |
| 05:13.00 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: so you've decided to install etch eh. cool. did i help talk you into it? hehe |
| 05:13.00 | rolo | !tell rolo about sound |
| 05:13.11 | Phated | E's around, innit? e17 was being talked about quite some time ago. |
| 05:13.11 | peterS | there are rumors of an E17 beta, but I stopped believing them about 6 years ago |
| 05:13.12 | adamant1988 | yes actually |
| 05:13.23 | adamant1988 | I'm going to try etch, sarge made me feel at home despite being a little out dates |
| 05:13.29 | cam | deadcat, it's not for me; it's for someone who is not keen with command line ... so i'm looking for a GUI tool |
| 05:13.37 | rolo | !tell rolo about ac97 |
| 05:13.39 | Phated | peterS: Someone was using it and said it was quite nice - I have no idea who it was, though. |
| 05:13.45 | deadcat | cam: ah.. dont know any. |
| 05:13.47 | adamant1988 | I figure that etch will be more of the same, but I REALLY want the enlightenment wm. It's really nice, I've been using elive to try it out |
| 05:13.49 | peterS | yeah, that's what they always say (: |
| 05:13.52 | Phated | Heh. |
| 05:13.52 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: cool. uyou like it. you were wanting to get an external hd working.. right? |
| 05:13.58 | Phated | Right, back to class ;) |
| 05:14.17 | peterS | Phated, IRCing from class? *handslap* |
| 05:14.23 | onetinsoldier | *you will like it |
| 05:14.23 | cam | k-god, tuv, ok tx ... i'm gonna take a look at these |
| 05:14.31 | Coweater | cenobyte_evil: xfce4-terminal can be borderless |
| 05:14.32 | midgetarg | one more attempt before bed... I have a fresh install of qmail/vpopmail that I am trying to copy my backups of the users' Maildirs to. When they log in and try to dl a mail message, though, it gives them a RETR error and says it can't process the email. Is there a way to restore the Maildirs other than just copying them in? |
| 05:14.35 | adamant1988 | Yeah, elive is debian based and it was detecting the hard drive, I think it's just the kernel on sarge that caused that problem |
| 05:14.38 | tuv | haven't you checked elivecd? |
| 05:14.47 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: roger that |
| 05:14.55 | tuv | a live cd running e16 and e17 |
| 05:14.56 | adamant1988 | But onetinsoldier does enlightenment WM come at a serious cost of functionality? |
| 05:15.02 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: are you in elive right now? |
| 05:15.05 | Gnea | cenobyte_evil: lies? try to visit www.windowmaker.org |
| 05:15.09 | adamant1988 | No, but it's running on my laptop |
| 05:15.11 | deadcat | anyone wants e17 for debian? |
| 05:15.21 | nevyn | everyone wants e17 |
| 05:15.27 | adamant1988 | I love e17 |
| 05:15.31 | cenobyte_evil | Gnea: i know.. but dead or not i like it |
| 05:15.32 | nevyn | but it's become the ultimate vaporware |
| 05:15.41 | deadcat | deb http://soulmachine.net/debian/ unstable/ |
| 05:15.49 | deadcat | pin the packages first though |
| 05:15.51 | k-god | Gnea: http://www.windowmaker.info IIRC. |
| 05:15.57 | peterS | man, when E16 was released, I think we were still on kernel 2.2. who would have thought kernel 2.6.17 would beat E17 |
| 05:15.58 | k-god | Gnea: Not sure what happened to the .org. |
| 05:16.03 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: cost? what cost? it works fully functional as far as i know. is Elive DR16 or DR17? do you know? |
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| 05:16.13 | adamant1988 | both |
| 05:16.21 | adamant1988 | you just pick which one you want when you boot into the wm |
| 05:16.21 | onetinsoldier | both? |
| 05:16.26 | onetinsoldier | whoa |
| 05:16.33 | adamant1988 | you can log out and log back in with a different one |
| 05:16.35 | Gnea | wow. |
| 05:16.38 | tuv | onetinsoldier, both |
| 05:16.48 | onetinsoldier | sounds sweet |
| 05:16.53 | adamant1988 | it is sweet |
| 05:16.55 | Gnea | k-god: yeah, would've been nice if the dd had changed that in the description. |
| 05:16.56 | adamant1988 | and OH so beautiful |
| 05:17.05 | k-god | Gnea: File a bug. |
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| 05:17.12 | peterS | yeah, that's almost as mind-blowing as the ability to log in to a gnome session or an xfce4 session or an openbox session on the SAME DEBIAN BOX |
| 05:17.12 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: can you test something for me? |
| 05:17.14 | k-god | Gnea: ... and this happened pretty recently. |
| 05:17.18 | peterS | I mean, that would be really revolutionary |
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| 05:17.28 | adamant1988 | What do you need onetinesoldier? |
| 05:17.44 | adamant1988 | bear in mind I can't boot to debian, I installed elive to the HD |
| 05:17.49 | Gnea | onetinsoldier: elive is E16 |
| 05:17.49 | jawd | hello, theres something i dont understand.. my friend can login to one of his box from ipowerweb but it doesnt let me login... why? |
| 05:17.51 | k-god | peterS: Or start a failsafe session and fire up WMs as you like. |
| 05:17.57 | ak70 | hi, can any one tell how to enable cairo support in gtk2-engines? |
| 05:18.10 | deadcat | jawd: wtf is ipowerweb? |
| 05:18.16 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: can you see if you can get 'xhangglider' to work? it's not working for me here. |
| 05:18.21 | jawd | a dedicated server provider i think |
| 05:18.38 | adamant1988 | in elive? |
| 05:18.39 | deadcat | ak70: rebuild them? what you need? the split gradient stuff? |
| 05:18.41 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: i think it runs... but nothing comes up at all |
| 05:18.48 | adamant1988 | I'll try it |
| 05:18.49 | Gnea | k-god: when? |
| 05:18.49 | ak70 | yes, |
| 05:18.50 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: no.. not in Elive |
| 05:18.54 | deadcat | ak70: you're in luck. |
| 05:18.59 | jawd | can someone try to login to: 66.235.213.253 ssh 22 and tell me if it asks for logins |
| 05:19.04 | cenobyte_evil | anyone use irssi? |
| 05:19.05 | adamant1988 | I can't get into debian... I have elive installed to HD =( |
| 05:19.10 | adamant1988 | I still have to do the etch net install |
| 05:19.16 | deadcat | ak70: you want gtk2-engines-clearlooks or something? |
| 05:19.22 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: oh... ok. thanks anyway |
| 05:19.22 | ak70 | yes |
| 05:19.30 | deadcat | ak70: deb http://debian.sshonly.sytes.net unstable/ |
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| 05:19.37 | adamant1988 | sorry man. |
| 05:19.44 | ak70 | cool |
| 05:19.56 | k-god | Gnea: In the past month or three. |
| 05:20.04 | onetinsoldier | would anyone else be willing to tell me if 'xhangglider' works for them? |
| 05:20.07 | deadcat | ak70: its sharp corners. default is round but i hated it. |
| 05:20.26 | peterS | jawd: it's running an ssh server. not debian, I believe. |
| 05:20.32 | deadcat | ak70: http://sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/thunar.png |
| 05:20.42 | jawd | what is the file in freebsd that allows just certain ip ranges to login to ssh? |
| 05:20.46 | ak70 | why do they disable it by default? |
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| 05:20.53 | k-god | Gnea: windowmaker.info was registered 27 mar 2006 |
| 05:20.58 | deadcat | jawd: /etc/hosts.allow ? |
| 05:20.59 | jawd | im just askin help from people that knows about unix.. it's not related to debian |
| 05:21.07 | peterS | jawd: on debian the file is /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny |
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| 05:21.26 | peterS | jawd: 'man hosts_access' on debian to learn about these |
| 05:21.28 | k-god | jawd: sshd isn't run by inetd, but respects tcpwrappers settings. |
| 05:22.29 | concept10 | anyone know of a subversion gui client for linux? |
| 05:22.41 | deadcat | concept10: nope |
| 05:22.43 | eddiecheng | when i first installed debian i only partion one of my hard disk, my other hard disk is not mount to anything |
| 05:22.46 | tuv | apache2-common size is 3133kb, lighttpd size is 778kb..!! should i draw any conclusions? |
| 05:22.51 | eddiecheng | how do i make it mount to /home |
| 05:22.52 | eddiecheng | all the space |
| 05:22.59 | deadcat | eddiecheng: /etc/fstab |
| 05:23.01 | eddiecheng | okay |
| 05:23.07 | peterS | tuv: if you care only about disk space used, sure. that doesn't necessarily imply anything about memory use |
| 05:23.18 | deadcat | tuv: features. |
| 05:23.20 | chealer | concept10: most likely, yes |
| 05:23.21 | peterS | tuv: also, apache is smaller than apache2 |
| 05:23.21 | k-god | Gnea: Looks like wmaker's having infrastructure issues. Mailing list archives are 404. |
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| 05:23.35 | peterS | (yes, they are both still supported and will be for some time) |
| 05:23.42 | concept10 | chealer, thanks. google just helped me |
| 05:23.44 | dynamite | Hi, I'm experiencing problems with my oidentd |
| 05:23.53 | deadcat | k-god: yay. (= i ditched wmaker long ago... |
| 05:24.03 | dynamite | My configuration files wont work and I keep getting glined |
| 05:24.09 | k-god | deadcat: For? |
| 05:24.13 | tuv | peterS, nothing significant.. apache-common size is 3076kb |
| 05:24.15 | deadcat | k-god: i am on openbox now. |
| 05:24.30 | k-god | deadcat: Right. I've seen, remember now ;-) |
| 05:24.33 | biffhero2 | I have a server which is still running 2.2.19, and the libc6 upgrade needs 2.4.x. apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k6 fails with initrd-tools needing to be installed. initrd-tools needs both dash, and dash needs the newer libc6. |
| 05:24.47 | deadcat | k-god: ya. fluxbox wasnt doing it for me. |
| 05:24.51 | deadcat | either |
| 05:25.01 | peterS | tuv: even so, I'd expect apache to be lighter-weight than apache2. and most people don't need the added features of apache2. so if lighttpd doesn't work out for you, I'd look at apache (1.3, I mean, not 2.0) |
| 05:25.03 | eddiecheng | i am very happy |
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| 05:25.43 | deadcat | tuv: ya. i am still on apache 1.3 for my desktop.. it rocks.. but i do have lighttpd on the laptop (= |
| 05:25.45 | biffhero2 | I have put the output of 'apt-get install libc6' and 'apt-cache policy libc6' on http://channels.debian.net/paste/2715 and http://channels.debian.net/paste/2716 |
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| 05:26.10 | tuv | deadcat, do you know if lighttpd supports resume |
| 05:26.14 | dynamite | Hi, this is what my user oidentd config looks like: http://nopaste.php-q.net/216367 why wont it work ? |
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| 05:26.42 | deadcat | tuv: nope. all i know is it does the php stuff i want for the laptop. (= |
| 05:27.21 | peterS | tuv: I expect it does, resume is a pretty basic feature, but I don't really know |
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| 05:28.15 | tuv | i tried webapp a while ago and iirc it didn't support resume while it had cgi and probably php support! |
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| 05:28.24 | dynamite | Hi, this is what my user oidentd config looks like: http://nopaste.php-q.net/216367 why wont it work ? |
| 05:28.39 | tokigalor | hi |
| 05:28.48 | tokipainter | hey |
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| 05:29.08 | tokigalor | I'm connected via an old Mac SE FDHD |
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| 05:34.34 | tuv | just found this: http://salinan.memoryhole.net/autobench/jul25_05/ |
| 05:34.45 | phaedrus44 | wut was that url to add into source.list to get the w32 codecs? |
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| 05:35.12 | apt-abhi | my apt-get not working , error msg is " dpkg: syntax error: unkown group 'Debian-exim' is statoverride file |
| 05:35.13 | apt-abhi | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
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| 05:35.34 | apt-abhi | why is this, wot is the problem ? |
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| 05:35.56 | lewis | what is an alias which would simply get 'nulled' for exim? i.e. 'webmaster@domain.com: /dev/null' - would that work? |
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| 05:36.24 | k-god | apt-abhi: what package is generating that? Likely a config script (preinst/postinst). |
| 05:36.40 | k-god | lewis: Anything you don't want to read. Other than postmaster & abuse. |
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| 05:36.58 | peterS | oh, he left. |
| 05:37.01 | phaedrus44 | !w32codecs |
| 05:37.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a package that is not in Debian due to legal issues. The package provides numerous codecs for popular (but proprietary) multimedia codecs, such as avi, wmv, wma, normally found on windows systems. Ask me about <marillat> or <debian-multimedia> for more information on how to get support for these codecs in debian. There is an article at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 about w32codecs ... |
| 05:37.18 | phaedrus44 | !marillat |
| 05:37.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat is a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For instructions to add an APT source, ask me about <marillat.sarge> or <marillat.etch>. if you already used it, it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ (from ftp://ftp.nerim.net) Edit sources.list and change to the new location. |
| 05:37.19 | onetinsoldier | adamant1988: still here? |
| 05:37.29 | lewis | k-god: yeh - I want to confirm that I would be doing it the right way... so /dev/null would get rid of any mail I don't want to read, and exim would process it correctly, right? |
| 05:37.47 | gnufan | lewis: piping mail to /dev/null is bad karma, just refuse email addresses you don't want, this will happen if you dont have an alias for them. |
| 05:37.48 | k-god | lewis: I think so. That's actually a sendmail syntax IIRC. |
| 05:37.49 | Vasistha | phaedrus44: you know you can /msg dpkg right? |
| 05:37.50 | Supaplex | why accept mail you want to refuse? |
| 05:38.01 | k-god | gnufan: Point. |
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| 05:38.27 | peterS | unless they are real user accounts that you don't want to collect mail for, like the system accounts |
| 05:38.33 | k-god | lewis: .. you could even give an apropriate error message for this. |
| 05:38.43 | k-god | peterS: ... in which case, why accept it and drop it silently? |
| 05:38.54 | peterS | because that's easier than configuring $MTA to reject it |
| 05:38.58 | lewis | ah - I forgot - I created a 'banned_emails' file for exim to use |
| 05:39.23 | lewis | 'deny recipients = /blah/blah/banned_emails' |
| 05:40.13 | lewis | thanks fo royur help |
| 05:40.33 | gnufan | peterS: I think I'm super paranoid, I have virtual users for email accounts on the Internet listening port 25's... So I don't get email for system users anymore ;) |
| 05:40.39 | lewis | peterS: and yes, there were system accounts for domains I didn't want to collect mail for (it was all spam) |
| 05:41.17 | k-god | lewis: Bounce 'em and note the sending IPs. |
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| 05:41.38 | k-god | lewis: ... might cut down slightly on the flood, and makes a good spamtrap for the idiots who don't learn. |
| 05:41.48 | nicoco | is it normal that i had no update for my sid in the past 2 days ? |
| 05:42.02 | peterS | nicoco: yesterday dinstall didn't run |
| 05:42.14 | peterS | nicoco: due to a problem on the machine that hosts it. so there were no updates |
| 05:42.17 | lewis | k-god: that's what I'll be doing :) |
| 05:42.26 | k-god | lewis: Gaucho? |
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| 05:42.40 | peterS | it's not _normal_ but it does happen on occasion |
| 05:43.16 | lewis | sorry - what is Gaucho? |
| 05:43.29 | k-god | lewis: A smaller world than seems to be the case ;-) |
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| 05:45.22 | Aconitic | how should i setup apt to beable to get other packages like java and azureus |
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| 05:48.02 | k-god | Finding Nemo would have been vastly more exciting had Jack Bauer been looking for him. |
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| 05:49.22 | nemo | <JackBauer> wah! I wanted to find nemo!!! *sulk* |
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| 05:50.06 | k-god | peterS: Great. Now the POTUS wants your *ss *dead*. |
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| 05:55.00 | Aconitic | hmm |
| 05:55.05 | Aconitic | im trying to chose a wm |
| 05:55.16 | k-god | Aconitic: twm! |
| 05:55.17 | nevyn | Aconitic: twm |
| 05:55.21 | k-god | !start a wm war |
| 05:55.22 | dpkg | blackbox bites! |
| 05:55.25 | nevyn | great minds think alike |
| 05:55.32 | k-god | nevyn: Yeah, but what about us? |
| 05:55.34 | nevyn | fluxbox |
| 05:55.35 | nemo | Aconitic: pwm |
| 05:55.42 | nevyn | ratpoison |
| 05:55.47 | Aconitic | ive been using xfce |
| 05:55.51 | Aconitic | but i want to try something new |
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| 05:55.57 | k-god | Aconitic: Then try something new. |
| 05:56.01 | Aconitic | like what |
| 05:56.07 | Aconitic | what else will run on a 550mhz cpu |
| 05:56.11 | k-god | Aconitic: google 'window managers for x' |
| 05:56.12 | nevyn | e16 ! |
| 05:56.13 | servus | Keifer Sutherland was much cuter in Dark City. Ooh that little stutter and limp! |
| 05:56.37 | nevyn | Aconitic: how much ram do you have? |
| 05:56.42 | Aconitic | 192 |
| 05:56.50 | nevyn | Aconitic: get more. |
| 05:56.53 | k-god | Aconitic: xfce's among the prettier options for slower HW. Pretty much anything other than KDE/GNOME will work. |
| 05:56.54 | Aconitic | no? |
| 05:56.59 | k-god | Aconitic: what nevyn said. |
| 05:57.23 | Aconitic | on this comp i have a 1024, and use dropline gnome |
| 05:57.26 | Aconitic | but |
| 05:57.28 | nevyn | Aconitic: ram is the real killer that cpu is plenty fast to run even kde or gnome (probably not xgl) |
| 05:57.37 | nemo | Aconitic: I'm a huge pwm fan (as much as it's not been updated in years - superceeded by ion2 and now ion3) ... it'll run great on a 550mhz |
| 05:57.47 | k-god | servus: Who *slayed* in that movie was Jennifer Connelley |
| 05:57.50 | nevyn | icewm is greeat |
| 05:57.54 | Aconitic | i dont need something fancy its only going to be a download drone, i jsut need to be able to search for torrents |
| 05:57.55 | nemo | Aconitic: it's also the only tabbing wm I've seen yet which, imho, got it right |
| 05:58.46 | streuner | hm |
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| 05:59.01 | k-god | pwm is pretty slick for the tabbed / mousekiller WMs. |
| 05:59.29 | nemo | (though the defaulkt keybindings SUCK. I recommend getting the 'tumbleweed' theme and ignoring the colours, but using the keybindings. (based heavily on window maker bindings) |
| 05:59.59 | k-god | nemo: I remap wmaker a tad, but the defaults are pretty usable and trivially changed. |
| 06:00.23 | Aconitic | ok i just go flubox |
| 06:00.30 | nemo | k-god: I found the defaults hideous. agree they're trivially changed tho (the tumbleweed theme is mine |
| 06:00.30 | Aconitic | no |
| 06:00.33 | Aconitic | i mean icewm |
| 06:00.47 | Aconitic | now can anyone help install java |
| 06:00.52 | k-god | nemo: That's pwm? |
| 06:00.57 | k-god | !install java |
| 06:00.57 | dpkg | it has been said that install java is First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
| 06:01.03 | Aconitic | ive read that |
| 06:01.04 | Aconitic | it didint work |
| 06:01.21 | k-god | Aconitic: Should be simplified due to Sun's (slight) license rationalization. |
| 06:01.22 | nemo | k-god: it's a pwm theme, yeah. I think it's in the debian pwm package these days (in fact, probably the only place it's online anywhere anymore) |
| 06:01.31 | Aconitic | will azureus work on free? |
| 06:01.40 | k-god | nemo: OK. I've tried pwm a bit, can't quite come to love it. |
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| 06:02.46 | nemo | k-god: fair enough. it's definately quirky and not for everyone. That I still use it everywhere though (dispite ion2 and ion3 implementing pwm2 and pwm3 as modules) shows either how well it works for me, or how stubborn I am ;) |
| 06:03.32 | Vasistha | does anyone use the wine package that's in debian stable? I'm thinking about giving it a whirl. any thoughts? |
| 06:03.58 | k-god | !tell Vasistha about polls. |
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| 06:04.24 | tuv | i like lighttpd.. i think i'm gonna try it |
| 06:04.34 | k-god | Vasistha: <shrug>. It works for some stuff. It won't eat your system alive. Most Windows apps suck on Windows, they suck worse under WINE. |
| 06:05.05 | k-god | Vasistha: The current support status is generally pretty decent at winehq.org. If you've got specific apps to run, name 'em. |
| 06:05.05 | tuv | i somehow find it similar to dovecot! and i like dovecot |
| 06:05.24 | Aconitic | !java |
| 06:05.24 | dpkg | i guess java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive and forbids you from working on Java implementations or SDKs. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 06:05.42 | Aconitic | !install java |
| 06:05.42 | dpkg | well, install java is First, read <java licensing>. Free java implementations available in debian can be seen by running "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine". if you need to run software not supported by one of the free java implementations (anything not in main), the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about <java-package> or install the sun-java5-jdk package from non-free if you're using unstable. |
| 06:05.48 | Vasistha | k-god: thanks for your thoughts. After two years on linux, I still miss Eudora. |
| 06:06.02 | k-god | !comfort Vasistha |
| 06:06.03 | dpkg | There, there, Vasistha. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:06.11 | Vasistha | aww, thanks. |
| 06:06.44 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 06:06.44 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 06:07.16 | Aconitic | ok i dont like dpkg |
| 06:07.16 | tuv | isn't dpkg's information about java a little outdated? i think sun's java is in non-free now |
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| 06:07.23 | Aconitic | it makes no sense |
| 06:07.31 | tuv | hmm.. i missed that last line |
| 06:07.33 | Aconitic | anyone want to just explain it to me |
| 06:08.01 | k-god | tuv: I think you're right. Amend if you've got better info. |
| 06:08.27 | Aconitic | can someone jsut say what package i need to setup a jde? |
| 06:08.46 | tuv | you have two choices to install java: |
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| 06:09.12 | Aconitic | go on.. |
| 06:09.17 | peterS | whether it stays in non-free is an open question. lots of people are nervous about debian's legal liability while it's in there |
| 06:09.21 | tuv | 1. download it from sun (jre or jdk), install java-package, run make-jpkg <the-downloaded-file>, install the generated file: dpkg -i <the-generated-file> |
| 06:09.48 | Aconitic | i tried that earlier and it didnt work when i installed azurues |
| 06:09.53 | Aconitic | is there an apt package i can get? |
| 06:10.26 | tuv | 2. Be carefull, add unstable to sources.list and configure apt preferences, install sun-java5-* packages using apt |
| 06:10.34 | k-god | Aconitic: Short answer is: Java's licensing (and ambiguity, and recent states of change in same) have and do make getting a sane install something of a PITA. |
| 06:10.48 | tuv | Aconitic, it works |
| 06:10.59 | tuv | Aconitic, what was azureus' problem? |
| 06:11.07 | Aconitic | im a newb, how would i do that |
| 06:11.12 | Aconitic | it just said no jre detected |
| 06:11.24 | Aconitic | i dont even know if i installed it right tho |
| 06:12.52 | tuv | Aconitic, if you use java-package it will put java in your path |
| 06:13.36 | tuv | Aconitic, can you run java? just run: java -version |
| 06:14.06 | Aconitic | no, i already got rid of everything |
| 06:14.16 | Aconitic | i reinstalled debian completely |
| 06:14.19 | tuv | Aconitic, do you have the .deb? |
| 06:15.02 | Aconitic | no |
| 06:15.19 | tuv | Aconitic, note that the unstable packages have the advantage of being automatically upgardable, if you know how to install them without breaking your system ;) |
| 06:15.20 | sid | What is a good program to monitor a regular user and see everything they type/do? |
| 06:15.39 | tuv | sid, a webcam? |
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| 06:16.27 | Aconitic | tuv, i dont |
| 06:16.27 | Aconitic | help? |
| 06:16.36 | k-god | sid: a keylogger |
| 06:16.43 | Aconitic | and if i break it its not a bid deal, i can just reinstall |
| 06:16.52 | k-god | sid: Would have to strongly question your motives. |
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| 06:17.06 | Aconitic | sid, hardware keyloggers are cheap, and they just insert on a ps2 port |
| 06:17.17 | tuv | Aconitic, install java-package and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/java-package.. it's pretty straightforward |
| 06:17.18 | Aconitic | or you can get a software one |
| 06:17.51 | Aconitic | see this is lame tho |
| 06:18.01 | Aconitic | java comes packaged with azureus for slackware |
| 06:18.06 | Aconitic | but debian gets jack |
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| 06:18.54 | sid | I meant something like tripwire |
| 06:18.59 | sid | Not a web came or a keylogger |
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| 06:19.18 | k-god | Aconitic: There are Debian packages. It's possible to install them via dpkg's instructions. If that doesn't work for you, you've got plenty of 'Nix alternatives. |
| 06:19.29 | tuv | Aconitic, using java-package is really easy.. just read the readme file |
| 06:19.33 | k-god | sid: I'd generally suggest AIDE over tripwire. Markedly less twitchy. |
| 06:19.36 | litage | can a salt used with crypt-md5 contain non-alphanumeric characters? |
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| 06:20.12 | Aconitic | ok java-package is in unstable? |
| 06:20.31 | tuv | Aconitic, it's everywhere |
| 06:20.45 | Aconitic | well how do i get it then |
| 06:20.57 | Johnny_5 | how do i get the sound to work for my oter users? |
| 06:20.59 | tuv | Aconitic, apt-get install java-package ? |
| 06:21.08 | Aconitic | ive tried |
| 06:21.21 | Aconitic | its not there |
| 06:21.22 | tuv | Aconitic, can you install anything? |
| 06:21.34 | Aconitic | yeh |
| 06:21.34 | tuv | Aconitic, you probably need to add non-free to your source.list |
| 06:21.44 | Aconitic | yeh you said that earlier, im not sure how tho |
| 06:21.45 | tuv | Aconitic, you probably need to add non-free to your sources.list |
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| 06:22.25 | tuv | Aconitic, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, and append "non-free" to the lines with "main" at their end |
| 06:22.47 | no0ke | how do i restart OSS ? |
| 06:22.49 | tuv | Aconitic, it's a good idea to add "contrib" as well.. separate them with spaces |
| 06:23.05 | streuner | no0ke: why do you think you need to? |
| 06:23.27 | tuv | Aconitic, leave the quotes |
| 06:23.35 | Aconitic | us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib |
| 06:23.38 | Aconitic | should it real like that? |
| 06:23.42 | Aconitic | oh |
| 06:23.44 | tuv | Aconitic, right |
| 06:24.00 | tuv | Aconitic, now apt-get update, then install java-package |
| 06:24.49 | tuv | Aconitic, then read /usr/share/doc/java-package/README.Debian, and you will never need any further help |
| 06:24.52 | Johnny_5 | how do i get the sound to work for my other users? |
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| 06:25.04 | Aconitic | there thanks man |
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| 06:25.29 | tuv | Johnny_5, add them to the audio group |
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| 06:25.35 | streuner | no0ke: do you know what OSS is and how you use OSS at all in debian? |
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| 06:25.47 | no0ke | aint that the sound thing? |
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| 06:25.52 | Johnny_5 | how do i do that? where would i find it? |
| 06:25.57 | streuner | no0ke: yes |
| 06:26.00 | no0ke | coz when i play music, it sounds like im fast-forwarding it, sounds like a cartoon? |
| 06:26.11 | deadcat | Johnny_5: add them to the audio group |
| 06:26.12 | Aconitic | oh one more question |
| 06:26.21 | tuv | Johnny_5, plenty of ways.. using a desktop environment? |
| 06:26.26 | Aconitic | if i modfy apt sources will it do the same to synaptic, or are they seperate |
| 06:26.33 | streuner | no0ke: onboard-chip? |
| 06:26.36 | deadcat | Aconitic: same |
| 06:26.39 | Aconitic | k |
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| 06:26.53 | no0ke | streuner: yeah |
| 06:26.54 | deadcat | Aconitic: synaptic is just the GUI for apt |
| 06:26.54 | Johnny_5 | yeah, but can i do i tvia comand line...i find it better |
| 06:27.07 | cableroy | Where can i find a debian howto for apache2 with vhost,perl,php in chroot/jail env.? |
| 06:27.07 | onetinsoldier | a 'front-end' |
| 06:27.08 | deadcat | Johnny_5: adduser |
| 06:27.11 | streuner | no0ke: get emu10k1 chipset - they are cheap second hand |
| 06:27.15 | tuv | Johnny_5, sure.. edit /etc/group |
| 06:27.25 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 06:27.43 | no0ke | not found |
| 06:28.02 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they can help me get a gameport ms sidewinder gampad working? i've tried a number of things to try and it get it working, but no luck so far. free beer for anyone who can get it working! ;-) |
| 06:28.13 | streuner | no0ke: some people say, ALSA would work for them better, if you running a 2.6.x kernel i would say just try that instead. |
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| 06:28.16 | Johnny_5 | just add :user to the end of the audio line? |
| 06:28.33 | deadcat | Johnny_5: adduser username audio |
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| 06:28.41 | streuner | no0ke: emu10k1=SB live and clones |
| 06:28.43 | Aconitic | ah shit |
| 06:28.52 | Aconitic | i installed java-package |
| 06:29.00 | no0ke | i was just playing a normal mp3 couple of hours ago |
| 06:29.04 | Aconitic | then azureus |
| 06:29.06 | morten | what text based news client do you guys prefer? |
| 06:29.11 | Aconitic | but it says the package is broken |
| 06:29.16 | tuv | Johnny_5, what deadcat said, or man group |
| 06:29.24 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 06:29.40 | nunu | hi, can anyone tell me, how to make my licq transparent ? I looked at this HOWTO ( http://www.licq.org/SKINS.HOWTO ) but I don't know how how to make the mask.bmp completly white... is it possible with gimp ? oO |
| 06:29.44 | onetinsoldier | Aconitic: don't fret.. you can fix it up |
| 06:30.10 | Johnny_5 | thanx |
| 06:30.12 | morten | nunu: i don't see why that wouldn't be possible with gimp... |
| 06:30.17 | onetinsoldier | Aconitic: i've never used java-package, but just make your java package with it now. |
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| 06:30.43 | no0ke | streuner: even videos play the same, it's like its fast-forwarding it self |
| 06:30.50 | nunu | I just don't know how ^^ |
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| 06:31.30 | nunu | and I don't know if an empty mask.bmp would make it fully transparent oO |
| 06:31.58 | onetinsoldier | Aconitic: to fix the problem immediately, just do... dpkg --purge azureus |
| 06:32.11 | Aconitic | one sec |
| 06:32.15 | streuner | no0ke: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 06:32.19 | clarity_ | hey, I'm having some trouble with my madwifi card. On boot it doesn't do ifup so I have to manually do ifup ath0 after it's booted |
| 06:32.23 | clarity_ | does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 06:32.38 | no0ke | Linux version 2.6.16.14 (root@haterproof) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)) #1 PREEMPT Sun May 7 00:16:21 EDT 2006 |
| 06:32.46 | deconvolution | hi, i installed hplip & hpijs packages but cups still cannot display hp drivers, how can I get them to the driver list? |
| 06:32.50 | Aconitic | it was never installed |
| 06:32.53 | deadcat | clarity_: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 06:33.21 | streuner | no0ke: when you are using an official kernel, do you get the same result? |
| 06:33.22 | clarity_ | what does your interfaces look like deadcat? |
| 06:33.44 | onetinsoldier | Aconitic: well what is supposedly broken? |
| 06:33.55 | no0ke | streuner: i've been using this kernel, and it worked, i don't know why's messin up |
| 06:34.04 | streuner | deconvolution: check out /msg dpkg hpinkjet install |
| 06:34.13 | no0ke | streuner: and yes, i had the same problem back then with 2.6.8-3 |
| 06:34.28 | deadcat | clarity_: for wireless? auto wlan0 is the line you need. |
| 06:34.35 | streuner | deconvolution: you need a working ppd for your printer installed, check out linuxprinting.org as well. |
| 06:34.35 | Aconitic | "depends |
| 06:34.40 | clarity_ | only thing? |
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| 06:34.49 | Aconitic | depends: java2-runtime but it is not installabel |
| 06:34.58 | deadcat | clarity_: and all the iwconfig options are like wireless_mode managed, and so on |
| 06:35.03 | streuner | no0ke: just try ALSA |
| 06:35.10 | no0ke | streuner: i did |
| 06:35.19 | no0ke | streuner: same results |
| 06:35.25 | tuv | Aconitic, did you read java-package's README.Debian? |
| 06:35.35 | tuv | Aconitic, did you install java or just java-package? |
| 06:35.49 | Aconitic | yeh |
| 06:35.57 | Aconitic | just java-package |
| 06:35.58 | onetinsoldier | Aconitic: is thast an error regarding azureus? do what i said if you want that fixed right now... dpkg --purge azureus |
| 06:36.03 | Aconitic | the readme didnt sayanything |
| 06:36.09 | tuv | Aconitic, then you still don't have java |
| 06:36.15 | Aconitic | its an error from apt |
| 06:36.46 | no0ke | streuner: anyway, how do you restart OSS ? |
| 06:36.47 | onetinsoldier | Aconitic: yes.. i know. but i's regarding azureus... correct? |
| 06:36.48 | sanmarcos | i need to make a script that changes every letter (a-z) to (1-26) respectively, any hints? |
| 06:36.50 | tuv | Aconitic, did you ran make-jpkg? did you download java from sun's website? this is what the README says |
| 06:37.00 | Aconitic | i read the readme |
| 06:37.06 | streuner | no0ke: OSS modules are kernel modules... |
| 06:37.06 | Aconitic | it didnt say anything |
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| 06:37.11 | deadcat | sanmarcos: perl |
| 06:37.15 | Aconitic | it was just talking about developers |
| 06:37.21 | Aconitic | lemme go look again |
| 06:37.25 | tuv | Aconitic, what readme did you read? |
| 06:37.31 | Aconitic | might have been the wrong one |
| 06:37.34 | no0ke | streuner: so you restart it by rebooting? |
| 06:37.39 | onetinsoldier | Aconitic: paste in the error from... apt-get -f install |
| 06:37.59 | sanmarcos | deadcat: can vim do it? |
| 06:38.00 | streuner | no0ke: would be a solution |
| 06:38.11 | deadcat | sanmarcos: ya. a long ass s/// line (= |
| 06:38.37 | sanmarcos | deadcat: ill do it in python |
| 06:38.45 | dondelelcaro | !tell Aconitic -about bat |
| 06:38.54 | dondelelcaro | Aconitic: follow those instructions so we can help you. |
| 06:39.01 | Aconitic | oh ok i got it now |
| 06:39.07 | Aconitic | yeh i didnt even ahve java installed |
| 06:39.32 | wut | http://tmp.4chan.org/h/src/1149223997400.jpg :O |
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| 06:41.23 | deadcat | is it normal to get 100% when running glxglears? |
| 06:41.35 | k-god | deadcat: 100% what? |
| 06:41.42 | cableroy | Where can i find a debian howto for apache2 with vhost,perl,php in chroot/jail env.? |
| 06:41.46 | k-god | deadcat: 100% virtue? 100% ROI? |
| 06:41.56 | deadcat | CPU |
| 06:42.01 | deconvolution | streuner: thanks |
| 06:42.12 | onetinsoldier | deadcat: yeah.. that would be normal |
| 06:42.37 | streuner | deconvolution: you are welcome. |
| 06:42.52 | clarity_ | hmm what package is gmake in? |
| 06:43.03 | streuner | !gmake |
| 06:43.03 | dpkg | from memory, gmake is the GNU make, or http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/make/ or ln -s /usr/bin/make /usr/local/bin/gmake |
| 06:43.26 | streuner | clarity_: gmake = make in debian |
| 06:43.39 | dieg | anyone is having problems with SourceForge's Subversion? I can't commit, it returns a MKACTIVITY error! |
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| 06:44.18 | k-god | dieg: Been hearing grousing about it for a week or more now. |
| 06:44.28 | k-god | dieg: ... and I thought SF was CVS? |
| 06:45.14 | peterS | sourceforge recently rolled out support for svn, and auto-conversion from cvs to svn for existing projects, if they want it |
| 06:45.43 | peterS | this was like 2 or 3 months ago |
| 06:45.51 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: have you tried using the video out on the powerbook? or the dvi ? |
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| 06:46.07 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yes |
| 06:46.09 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: it works |
| 06:46.28 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: clone or xinerama? |
| 06:46.33 | dondelelcaro | of the 17" g4 that is; not the 400 Mhz g4. |
| 06:46.43 | deadcat | oh |
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| 06:47.41 | dieg | thanks k-god |
| 06:48.07 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i can clone with MergedFB easily via the svideo?, but never tried xinerama on ati cards. |
| 06:48.09 | eddiecheng | how to do a clean install over remote ? |
| 06:48.19 | eddiecheng | clean reinstall over remote |
| 06:48.22 | eddiecheng | debian over debian |
| 06:48.34 | k-god | eddiecheng: upgrade or install? |
| 06:48.42 | rohan | i messed up my /boot, hence i cannot boot into debian. i chrooted into it, and got my kernel image back in /boot , but i am unable to prepare my initrd. hence i am locked out of debian, and i desperately want to be back in debian .. can someone please help me ? |
| 06:48.44 | deadcat | reinstall |
| 06:48.52 | k-god | eddiecheng: Former: aptitude dist-upgrade. Latter: chroot instlal. |
| 06:49.07 | k-god | eddiecheng: Appendix C4 of Debian Installation Manual. |
| 06:49.08 | eddiecheng | i messed up my debian |
| 06:49.15 | eddiecheng | i want to do a clean reinstall with nothing inside |
| 06:49.26 | k-god | eddiecheng: If it's on the Net, there's very little likely reason to do a reinstall. |
| 06:49.33 | k-god | eddiecheng: What did you goof? |
| 06:49.38 | deadcat | k-god: i know a guy who read that |
| 06:49.49 | eddiecheng | i did too much things |
| 06:49.50 | k-god | deadcat: Pinch me. |
| 06:49.51 | eddiecheng | vhcs |
| 06:49.56 | eddiecheng | i download the source |
| 06:49.57 | eddiecheng | compile |
| 06:50.04 | eddiecheng | and then i used the package |
| 06:50.09 | eddiecheng | alot problems |
| 06:50.11 | k-god | eddiecheng: Installed under /usr or /usr/local? |
| 06:50.15 | deadcat | !enter |
| 06:50.15 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 06:50.36 | eddiecheng | not so sure k-god |
| 06:50.46 | eddiecheng | is it possible to do a reinstall ? |
| 06:50.54 | k-god | eddiecheng: Yes, I told you how. |
| 06:50.59 | eddiecheng | okay |
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| 06:51.16 | k-god | eddiecheng: ... or at least what to read. You can do a chroot install under an existing Linux installation. |
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| 06:51.27 | eddiecheng | i did last time and i cant boot up |
| 06:51.31 | k-god | Phated: or you could straighten him out. |
| 06:51.35 | eddiecheng | i wanted to install debian over suse last time |
| 06:51.39 | k-god | eddiecheng: Well, that's one reason *not* to do a chroot install. |
| 06:51.40 | eddiecheng | and messed with the fdisk |
| 06:52.15 | eddiecheng | k-god whats your advice ? |
| 06:52.17 | rohan | please please help me ! http://rafb.net/paste/results/IIexVW42.html |
| 06:52.19 | eddiecheng | i have 2 harddisk |
| 06:52.27 | rohan | i am trying to tackle the problem since yesterday |
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| 06:52.36 | k-god | !tell rohan about smart questions |
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| 06:52.53 | rohan | k-god: and how was my question not intelligent ? |
| 06:53.02 | deadcat | rohan: check /dev/null, ls -l /dev/null |
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| 06:53.20 | k-god | rohan: It's a tad short on context. |
| 06:53.28 | Johnny_5 | still no sound for my users |
| 06:53.31 | rohan | deadcat: [root@suse /]# ls -l /dev/null |
| 06:53.31 | rohan | crwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1, 3 Apr 24 20:42 /dev/null |
| 06:53.40 | rohan | k-god: 12:18 < rohan> i messed up my /boot, hence i cannot boot into debian. i chrooted into it, and got my kernel image back in /boot , but i am unable to prepare my initrd. hence i am locked out of debian, and i desperately want to be back in debian .. can someone please help me ? |
| 06:53.46 | Johnny_5 | is there anything else that needs to be done? |
| 06:53.52 | rohan | k-god: what more information do i provide ? |
| 06:54.04 | streuner | Johnny_5: adduser <user> audio, log out and back in |
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| 06:54.12 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 06:54.13 | k-god | rohan: A tad bit of context *in* channel is useful. What deadcat said WRT /dev/null |
| 06:54.16 | Johnny_5 | brb |
| 06:54.33 | rohan | deadcat: i had tried chmod 777 to it, which didnt help either |
| 06:54.42 | k-god | rohan: Though if you've fscked up perms and/or overwritten /dev/null, I'd scope for other device fsckage as well. |
| 06:54.54 | k-god | rohan: Check that it's a device and not a regular file. |
| 06:54.57 | eddiecheng | now i have problems dependency problems - leaving unconfigured |
| 06:54.58 | rohan | k-god: i did not do anything to /dev/null |
| 06:55.09 | rohan | [root@suse /]# file /dev/null |
| 06:55.09 | rohan | /dev/null: character special (1/3) |
| 06:55.21 | k-god | rohan: Oh, I suppose the naughty garden gnomes of nullsville are just blocking IO for you then? |
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| 06:55.34 | rohan | k-god: i'd need to ask them :P |
| 06:55.35 | deadcat | rohan: try mv null to null~ then just touch null as a normal file then install again see what happen |
| 06:55.43 | k-god | rohan: 'bash -x' the postinst script then and see what it's trying to do. |
| 06:55.59 | k-god | deadcat: MAKEDEV /dev/null would be better, modulo proper syntax. |
| 06:56.03 | k-god | rohan: man MAKEDEV |
| 06:56.17 | deadcat | k-god: touch the null file we can see the output (= |
| 06:56.23 | streuner | rohan: do you have udev installed? |
| 06:56.24 | k-god | deadcat: Point. |
| 06:56.27 | rohan | streuner: yes |
| 06:56.37 | streuner | forget MAKEDEV then :-) |
| 06:56.43 | rohan | streuner: but it is not getting activated in the chroot automatically (and i havent tried to manually activate it) |
| 06:56.53 | k-god | streuner: Point. |
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| 06:57.11 | rohan | hmm.. then do i mv null to null~ and touch a file ? |
| 06:57.26 | k-god | rohan: I'm guessing that's not going to do much of interest w/ udev. |
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| 06:57.46 | Edward_TLS | You must have a V1.85 compatable DB library |
| 06:57.50 | rohan | hmm.. then do i do startudev in the chroot ? |
| 06:57.53 | Edward_TLS | what pkg am I missing... ? |
| 06:58.10 | streuner | edwards: for what app.? |
| 06:58.19 | k-god | !tell Edward_TLS about search |
| 06:58.26 | streuner | edwards: in other words, what are you trying to do? |
| 06:58.33 | k-god | Edward_TLS: auto-apt in shell mode can be pretty studly too. |
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| 06:59.47 | eddiecheng | is there any command to force remove ? |
| 06:59.52 | eddiecheng | apt |
| 07:00.02 | deadcat | man |
| 07:00.02 | Stevie | Which manual page do you want? |
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| 07:00.46 | Johnny_5 | still nothing |
| 07:00.52 | onetinsoldier | eddiecheng: you want to remove apt? |
| 07:01.07 | eddiecheng | no |
| 07:01.10 | onetinsoldier | ok |
| 07:01.17 | eddiecheng | i screwed up my whole debian packages and stuffz |
| 07:01.19 | Invis | Hello, I have this thing when booting from CD: It shows "VM: killing process cp" and on the next line "Killed" and just hangs. Any ideas? |
| 07:01.25 | onetinsoldier | eddiecheng: oh |
| 07:01.28 | Johnny_5 | rm -r <filename> |
| 07:01.30 | eddiecheng | i dont know whether to reinstall via remote |
| 07:01.35 | eddiecheng | i am afraid i screwed up |
| 07:01.39 | deadcat | eddiecheng: have you tried man apt-get ? |
| 07:01.41 | eddiecheng | and i have to make a trip to datacentre |
| 07:02.05 | eddiecheng | been following some howto guide |
| 07:02.10 | eddiecheng | but it doesnt work |
| 07:02.17 | deadcat | !tell eddiecheng about enter |
| 07:02.20 | eddiecheng | then i didnt know theres a debian package |
| 07:02.28 | eddiecheng | and i installed the package |
| 07:02.29 | eddiecheng | vhcs package |
| 07:02.38 | eddiecheng | now my whole sys is screwed and messy |
| 07:02.40 | deadcat | !enter eddiecheng |
| 07:02.43 | eddiecheng | ok |
| 07:02.49 | k-god | deadcat: Enough. |
| 07:02.56 | eddiecheng | i am sorry |
| 07:03.36 | k-god | eddiecheng: If you can get a file listing out of vhcs, you can both remove what it installed and have Debian re-install any files which vhcs changed. That's reasonably straightforward. |
| 07:03.58 | k-god | eddiecheng: ...it also is not likely to risk your losing access to the box which any remote reinstall might imply. |
| 07:04.13 | eddiecheng | i manually deleted alot files |
| 07:04.18 | k-god | eddiecheng: Alternatively, doing a local install onto a disk you then have installed on the remote box (yourself or remote hands) might work. |
| 07:04.37 | k-god | eddiecheng: If you don't mind my saying so: 1. you've dug yourself into a hole. |
| 07:04.44 | eddiecheng | yea i know |
| 07:04.45 | k-god | eddiecheng: .... 2. and it's mostly your problem to dig yourself out. |
| 07:04.47 | eddiecheng | i dug alot holes |
| 07:04.56 | k-god | eddiecheng: That said: Debian tracks every file it creates. |
| 07:05.16 | k-god | eddiecheng: The tough part is finding what vhcs may have changed. Generate that list and the rest is easy. |
| 07:05.24 | eddiecheng | i see no wonder it is screwed now |
| 07:05.42 | k-god | eddiecheng: Debian's pretty resiliant. |
| 07:05.50 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they can help me get a gameport ms sidewinder gampad working? i've tried a number of things to try and it get it working, but no luck so far. free beer for anyone who can get it working! ;-) |
| 07:05.51 | eddiecheng | i deleted apache configs,proftp configs and alot more |
| 07:06.09 | eddiecheng | because vhcs creates them |
| 07:06.15 | k-god | eddiecheng: I've blown away both most of /var and my root filesystem (excluding /usr /var /boot /home, etc.) at various times and recovered, mostly live. |
| 07:06.43 | k-god | eddiecheng: Your reciting what you think you've blown away isn't going to do much for us. Compile a list of files. You can use that to match against packages which need reinstalling. |
| 07:07.05 | k-god | eddiecheng: ... your configs, unless backed up, are gone. But if you haven't tweaked too much should be pretty straightforward. |
| 07:07.14 | eddiecheng | okay |
| 07:07.31 | k-god | I'm probably not going to be around to help much, but can point you at a couple of things. |
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| 07:08.00 | eddiecheng | is it possible to ssh to my server to help ? |
| 07:08.07 | eddiecheng | i only want vhcs setup nicely |
| 07:08.18 | k-god | eddiecheng: NFC. Try it. Either it works or it doesn't. |
| 07:08.27 | k-god | eddiecheng: If you can't reach the box, there's not much you can do period. |
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| 07:08.42 | eddiecheng | what is NFC ? |
| 07:08.50 | k-god | !nfc |
| 07:08.51 | dpkg | i heard nfc is No Fucking Clue. National Football Conference |
| 07:09.31 | k-god | Scroll to "recovering from lost filesystems". There's a lot in there but generally it's use of Debian's package management tools and policy to reconstruct a system after doing stupid things to it http://linuxmafia.com/debian/tips |
| 07:09.36 | k-god | ... written from experience. |
| 07:09.45 | rohan | hmm.. where do i go now, for this initrd issue |
| 07:09.56 | rohan | yesterday [Bart] had passed me his own initrd |
| 07:10.00 | rohan | which didnt work, ofcourse :S |
| 07:10.25 | onetinsoldier | nobody wants some free beer? |
| 07:10.40 | rohan | and i dont understand why apt/dpkg is trying to use yaird |
| 07:10.43 | rohan | when its not there |
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| 07:11.22 | rohan | wow, deadcat , with your method, atleast i dont get permission denied errors |
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| 07:11.35 | clarity_ | how does xen compare to vmware? |
| 07:11.41 | clarity_ | can it run vmware images? |
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| 07:12.21 | eddiecheng | have anyone here have experience reinstalling debian over internet ssh ? |
| 07:12.31 | rohan | lol, !vmware is too funny :) |
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| 07:12.47 | clarity_ | !vmware |
| 07:12.48 | dpkg | well, vmware is for 2.6 kernels, download the patches from ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware, read the README, or #vmware, or vmware 5.0 supports 2.6 kernels happily, or offtopic for #debian, being as it is proprietary. You paid for it; get support from the vendor. You DID pay for it, right? |
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| 07:13.24 | rohan | WOW WOW WOW, deadcat , using your method the initrd generated without errors (lets hope it works, but i dont see why not) |
| 07:13.34 | clarity_ | hrm... it's odd it keeps saying my kernel headers don't match my kernel |
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| 07:13.46 | rohan | clarity_: you are trying to install vmware ? |
| 07:13.53 | clarity_ | yup |
| 07:13.57 | k-god | clarity_: Not AFAIK, though there were some translation tools being generated. |
| 07:14.12 | k-god | clarity_: Xen w/ Linux / *BSD generally requires a modified kernel. |
| 07:14.23 | Master_Shake | Hi I've just installed Debian Stable and when I start X I'm told I'm missing the font "fixed". Has anyone else here come across this and know what package I'm missing? |
| 07:14.23 | clarity_ | err |
| 07:14.27 | clarity_ | I don't want to do that |
| 07:14.35 | k-god | clarity_: ... and a few changes to the guest filesystem image itself. Nothing major, but not strictly vanilla. |
| 07:14.36 | rohan | !tell Master_Shake about fixed |
| 07:15.28 | k-god | clarity_: The modified kernel should be w/ in the Debian xen packages. |
| 07:15.29 | clarity_ | I have to run my current kernel |
| 07:15.32 | k-god | clarity_: It's basically a different arch target, 'xen' rather than intel, amd, etc. |
| 07:15.37 | clarity_ | 2.6.18 |
| 07:15.39 | k-god | clarity_: Explain. |
| 07:15.51 | clarity_ | if I don't the ethernet won't work |
| 07:15.52 | clarity_ | :-\ |
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| 07:17.00 | eddiecheng | anybody here have done reinstall of debian over the internet ? |
| 07:17.14 | k-god | clarity_: http://tx.downloads.xensource.com/downloads/docs/user |
| 07:17.59 | k-god | clarity_: You can roll your own or not. There should be current Xen kernels if your NIC's reasonably supported in Linux. |
| 07:18.02 | clarity_ | does it work with preexisting vmware images? |
| 07:18.05 | rohan | also, after this /boot messup, i recreated menu.lst from within chroot, when i try to boot into debian, it says "Error 15: File not found" , but the kernel and initrd files are there. However, if i remove the "savedefault" and "boot" lines, it works perfectly, without any errors. It did not happen before .. any ideas ? |
| 07:18.13 | k-god | clarity_: Xen's device support is thorugh Linux anyway. |
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| 07:18.33 | k-god | clarity_: I told you: I don't know. However in February when I still worked with XenSource the answer was "no". |
| 07:18.44 | k-god | clarity_: http://www.xensource.com/ |
| 07:18.52 | rohan | well, rebooting into debian |
| 07:18.56 | k-god | clarity_: "Community" will point you at the Xen wiki and mailing list. |
| 07:19.02 | rohan | thanks a lot for the help, k-god , deadcat and streuner |
| 07:19.10 | clarity_ | thanks |
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| 07:19.19 | Johnny_5 | ok sound worx now....thanx guys |
| 07:19.44 | k-god | clarity_: This stuff moves quickly. The answer is rarely flat "no", but it's often "sorta, but don't rely on it yet". |
| 07:20.22 | clarity_ | ah |
| 07:20.36 | clarity_ | I'll have to stick with vmware then :-\ |
| 07:20.44 | clarity_ | I need it for vmware images at work |
| 07:21.19 | cam | when powering up the computer, rc2.d is read, right ? |
| 07:21.27 | k-god | clarity_: VMWare's now got a free "player" FWIW. |
| 07:21.48 | k-god | cam: You'll find docs in /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/ |
| 07:22.23 | cam | ok tx |
| 07:22.23 | clarity_ | yah, that's what I'm using.. I'm having a bit of a problem installing it |
| 07:22.39 | clarity_ | it's saying the kernel headers are not the same version as the kernel |
| 07:22.41 | deadcat | anyone have or messed with a bluetooth adaptor? how does it work? |
| 07:22.43 | k-god | cam: ... and rc2.d is only read if that runlevel is traversed in startup. Generally it's rc1 & 3. Check initdefault in /etc/inittab. |
| 07:22.56 | nevyn | deadcat: I've got one.. |
| 07:22.57 | eddiecheng | k-god can you do me a favour to reinstall ? i will download the netinstall.iso on the server |
| 07:23.00 | k-god | clarity_: vmware has its own support forums. |
| 07:23.12 | nevyn | deadcat: I have a bluetooth keyboard on my mythtv box.. |
| 07:23.14 | deadcat | nevyn: give an example of how you use it with your bluetooth product |
| 07:23.19 | k-god | eddiecheng: Sorry, no, slammed here. |
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| 07:23.39 | nevyn | deadcat: it depends greatly what sort of device you're using. |
| 07:23.43 | Johnny_5 | for some reason my other users can shutdown the comp...how do i fix it so only root can do that |
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| 07:23.48 | rohan | GOD |
| 07:23.52 | rohan | it worked |
| 07:23.57 | rohan | i am in debian .. home sweet home |
| 07:24.04 | k-god | !wb rohan |
| 07:24.04 | dpkg | O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay! rohan has returned! |
| 07:24.20 | deadcat | nevyn: say a keyboard. what do you have to load in order for the keyboard to talk to the adaptor? |
| 07:24.31 | rohan | k-god, deadcat, streuner: you are da man :)) |
| 07:24.34 | clarity_ | oh, here's a quick question |
| 07:24.35 | rohan | dpkg: ty :) |
| 07:24.47 | k-god | clarity_: 42 |
| 07:24.47 | clarity_ | is there a way to move processes to different cpus? |
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| 07:25.03 | dondelelcaro | clarity_: no; the scheduler decides where processes run |
| 07:25.08 | clarity_ | hrm... that's the answer I'm still trying to figure out the question for that one |
| 07:25.13 | deadcat | mv |
| 07:25.16 | Johnny_5 | for some reason my other users can shutdown the comp...how do i fix it so only root can do that |
| 07:25.28 | k-god | clarity_: ISTR there's a way to set processor affinity, but you really have no reason to muck around down there. |
| 07:25.35 | nevyn | deadcat: hidd is the application to use |
| 07:25.40 | streuner | Johnny_5: look into /etc/sudoers |
| 07:25.40 | clarity_ | dondek: is there any way to override it? I think I might want to dedicate a VM to one of my processors |
| 07:25.44 | Johnny_5 | k |
| 07:25.46 | k-god | Johnny_5: Check /etc/sudoers and change your root password. |
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| 07:26.02 | nevyn | deadcat: hidd --search or --scan.. don't have the machine in question right in front of me |
| 07:26.08 | nevyn | might even be hidd -scan |
| 07:26.22 | clarity_ | k-god what's ISTR? |
| 07:26.25 | deadcat | nevyn: thats it? and it will automatically talk to each other? |
| 07:26.27 | k-god | !istr |
| 07:26.27 | dpkg | istr is, like, I seem to recall/remember |
| 07:26.37 | dondelelcaro | clarity_: there's really no reason to do that; they'll use processors as they become available... the most that can do is make everythign slower |
| 07:26.49 | nevyn | deadcat: assuming you're using recent stuff.. sure |
| 07:27.02 | nevyn | deadcat: I make no garuntees if you're using 2.4 and sarge |
| 07:27.11 | deadcat | nevyn: damn. i should have bought that bluetooth adaptor when it was dirt cheap. )= |
| 07:27.24 | deadcat | nevyn: fuck that.. all sid all the time here (= |
| 07:27.34 | nevyn | you have a bluetooth keyboard and no bluetooth adapter? |
| 07:27.42 | clarity_ | why do servers do that dondelelcaro ? |
| 07:27.56 | deadcat | nevyn: no. i dont have any bluetooth stuff. but it sounds fun to play with |
| 07:28.18 | nevyn | deadcat: Sadly I won mine at a ms marketing event.. so I have a MS elite bluettoth desktop hooked to my mythbox. |
| 07:28.51 | deadcat | nevyn: won is always good. |
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| 07:28.54 | sid | What are these linux-images with xen in them...What does that do? |
| 07:29.03 | sid | Just some shit compiled into the kernel that exploits features in xen? |
| 07:29.14 | nevyn | no... |
| 07:29.16 | dondelelcaro | clarity_: why do servers do what? |
| 07:29.18 | nevyn | they'll be xen |
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| 07:29.57 | sid | linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-686 - Linux kernel 2.6.16 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines |
| 07:30.02 | clarity_ | dedicate processes to specific cpus |
| 07:30.13 | eddiecheng | anybody here have done reinstall of debian over the internet ? |
| 07:30.14 | dondelelcaro | sid: those are the kernels that you'd actually use if you want to run xen |
| 07:30.17 | clarity_ | sweet sid |
| 07:30.22 | clarity_ | thanks |
| 07:30.24 | dondelelcaro | eddiecheng: you don't need to reinstall... |
| 07:30.27 | sid | er, sure clarity_ |
| 07:30.28 | sid | lol |
| 07:30.36 | ktwilight | reinstall should always be the last resort... :/ |
| 07:30.41 | ktwilight | it's usually unnecessary... |
| 07:30.41 | sid | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 07:30.48 | eddiecheng | i am not really good in nix |
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| 07:30.56 | ktwilight | then learn ;) |
| 07:30.56 | eddiecheng | and i screwed up too many things |
| 07:31.00 | eddiecheng | i am learning |
| 07:31.04 | ktwilight | am not good either, but i have been learnin |
| 07:31.04 | eddiecheng | but i need it urgently |
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| 07:31.10 | ktwilight | what's the problem? |
| 07:31.12 | dondelelcaro | eddiecheng: well, it's not that hard to do... but it's better to fix the problems as part of your learning process than to just reinstall. |
| 07:31.21 | dondelelcaro | eddiecheng: if you need something fixed urgently, then hire someone to fix it |
| 07:31.25 | ktwilight | true what dondelelcaro said |
| 07:31.25 | dondelelcaro | !consultants |
| 07:31.25 | dpkg | consultants is probably http://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
| 07:31.28 | ktwilight | haha |
| 07:31.32 | eddiecheng | :( |
| 07:31.42 | ktwilight | anywayz, gotta run. appointments.... :/ |
| 07:31.45 | clarity_ | dang, I'm kind of nervous about installing another kernel |
| 07:31.51 | clarity_ | I got everything working on this one |
| 07:31.53 | sid | dondelelcaro: What is going on with the move... did #debian move to irc.oftc.net ? |
| 07:31.54 | k-god | eddiecheng: If you want to learn w/o losing a system, do what you did to the remote box locally, then fix it. |
| 07:32.02 | dondelelcaro | sid: there's already a #debian there |
| 07:32.13 | dondelelcaro | sid: all that's happening is irc.debian.org is changing where it's pointing. |
| 07:32.16 | k-god | eddiecheng: wibbeling on channel 1). won't solve your problem and 2). will annoy folks here. |
| 07:32.20 | sid | So there are two #debian 's now? |
| 07:32.28 | eddiecheng | okay i understand |
| 07:32.32 | dondelelcaro | sid: there are many #debian channels |
| 07:32.36 | eddiecheng | i guess i have to make a trip down to reinstall |
| 07:32.36 | dondelelcaro | sid: most major networks have them |
| 07:32.40 | sid | yea, I know...but none this large. |
| 07:32.51 | eddiecheng | i dont like to trouble people too |
| 07:32.56 | Vasistha | clarity_: dedicating processes to specific cpu's ... because most processes will function best while being executed on one cpu, rather than multiple cpu's. And to best use the available resources when multiple cpu's are available, a server will dedicate a cpu to a process |
| 07:32.59 | dondelelcaro | sid: true, but that's what it is. |
| 07:33.04 | sid | k |
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| 07:33.14 | sid | Was just curious if this place was closing or such. |
| 07:33.19 | dondelelcaro | nope |
| 07:33.35 | dondelelcaro | not much will change in the near future besides the domain name |
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| 07:33.52 | onetinsoldier | anyone think they can help me get a gameport ms sidewinder gampad working? i've tried a number of things to try and it get it working, but no luck so far. free beer for anyone who can get it working! ;-) |
| 07:34.06 | lord_rob | Hi ! I definitely can't switch from lilo to grub with my special configuration. I keep getting grub error 17. Could I file a bug (reportbug) for that ? |
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| 07:34.28 | dondelelcaro | lord_rob: yes, you can... although, it'd help if you described what you're trying to do |
| 07:34.47 | lord_rob | dondelelcaro: of course I will |
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| 07:35.46 | dondelelcaro | lord_rob: in any case, error 17 means that grub can't figure out the partition type. This usually means that your configuration is wrong |
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| 07:36.20 | lord_rob | dondelelcaro: I know, but grub-install /dev/fd0 generates a valid boot floppy |
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| 07:38.28 | dondelelcaro | lord_rob: sure, but boot floppies are totally different from booting off of harddrives |
| 07:38.39 | lord_rob | dondelelcaro: I remember when I installed this sid using woody installer, my hard disk wasn't recognized if I used a 2.2 kernel. I had to use the 2.4. It is connected to a HPT370 ATA100/RAID controller |
| 07:39.06 | dondelelcaro | oh, that probably isn't going to work at all if you're using that controller as a raid controlelr |
| 07:39.14 | dondelelcaro | since it's a fakeraid controller, not a hardware raid one |
| 07:39.23 | dondelelcaro | (well, may not work at all) |
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| 07:39.29 | Aconitic | hey anyone up |
| 07:39.58 | Aconitic | #flood |
| 07:40.09 | lord_rob | dondelelcaro: I'm not using a raid system. I'm using this controller instead of the standard ide controller because this controller is an ata-100 and the other controller is ata-66 |
| 07:40.35 | rohan | in the DWN this week, i heard debian is transitiong from python 2.3 to 2.4 , will that happen in sid first, or directly etch ? and frankly, what are the chances of this transition actually happeniing ? |
| 07:40.36 | dondelelcaro | lord_rob: ok, then it should still be ok... it may be something like (hd2,0) though |
| 07:40.44 | rohan | Aconitic: use rafb.net/paste |
| 07:40.51 | dondelelcaro | rohan: it'll always happen in sid first; and it's now a release blocker, so it will happen. |
| 07:41.16 | Aconitic | what is the best BT client for debian |
| 07:41.23 | colk | oh yeah etch is the next stable |
| 07:41.23 | dondelelcaro | Aconitic: rtorrent, IMO. |
| 07:41.29 | eddiecheng | torrentflux ? |
| 07:41.30 | dondelelcaro | s/is/will be/ |
| 07:41.33 | rohan | dondelelcaro: but it also said that june 15th was the last date for the transition, what if its not done by that time ? |
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| 07:41.39 | Aconitic | is utorrent availible for it? |
| 07:41.45 | eddiecheng | utorrent only on windows |
| 07:41.49 | Aconitic | oh |
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| 07:42.12 | Aconitic | anyone a demoniod member? |
| 07:42.17 | Aconitic | i need an invite |
| 07:42.18 | dondelelcaro | rohan: to start, but I think the RMs have approved it |
| 07:42.29 | rohan | Aconitic: this is not the place to ask for it |
| 07:42.37 | Aconitic | what is |
| 07:42.39 | rohan | Aconitic: and for BT on linux, try azureus |
| 07:42.42 | rohan | !azureus |
| 07:42.42 | dpkg | To install azureus, type aptitude install azureus AFTER adding contrib and non-free to your sources. | Ask me about <contrib> <non-free> |
| 07:42.59 | dondelelcaro | ugh. just use rtorrent |
| 07:43.02 | blackjudas | How can I find what package depends on a specific package? |
| 07:43.09 | Aconitic | i use azureus on windows |
| 07:43.09 | rohan | dondelelcaro: thanks for telling me :) |
| 07:43.15 | dondelelcaro | blackjudas: apt-rdepends rdepends foopkg; |
| 07:43.17 | Aconitic | i tried to install it on debian but i couldnt get java to work |
| 07:43.18 | lord_rob | azuerus still in contrib ? i think it's in main now |
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| 07:43.28 | blackjudas | dondelelcaro: ahh, was using apt-cache |
| 07:43.32 | dondelelcaro | !+info azuerus |
| 07:43.33 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 07:43.35 | dpkg | Package 'azuerus' does not exist. |
| 07:43.48 | dondelelcaro | !+info azureus |
| 07:43.48 | wnm | !info azures |
| 07:43.50 | dpkg | azureus: (BitTorrent client), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 2.4.0.2-1 (sid), Packaged size: 5311 kB, Installed size: 6020 kB |
| 07:43.53 | rohan | !tell Aconitic about azureus |
| 07:44.06 | blackjudas | dondelelcaro: err, can't find apt-rdepends :) |
| 07:44.09 | dondelelcaro | lord_rob: as you can see, it's still in contrib. |
| 07:44.13 | dondelelcaro | blackjudas: install it. |
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| 07:44.42 | rohan | !tell Aconitic about java |
| 07:45.03 | dondelelcaro | blackjudas: I assume you're asking for packages which depend upon a specific package, as opposed to the packages which a specific package depends on. |
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| 07:45.34 | dondelelcaro | (you can also use grep-available -FDepends foopkg -s Package; to do this) |
| 07:45.47 | lord_rob | dondelelcaro: I am following planet.classpath.org closely and if I remember correctly azureus doesn't need non-free java anymore, but I might be wrong |
| 07:45.59 | blackjudas | dondelelcaro: yes correct. |
| 07:46.04 | dondelelcaro | lord_rob: it could be, but there may not have been an upload to it since then. |
| 07:46.25 | blackjudas | gcc-3.3-base isn't err needed is it? It's just there for backwards compatibility correct? |
| 07:46.39 | dondelelcaro | blackjudas: some things may depend on it |
| 07:46.45 | dondelelcaro | (or build-depend upon it) |
| 07:46.46 | Aconitic | i dont see rtorrent on apt |
| 07:47.15 | dondelelcaro | !+info rtorrent |
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| 07:47.21 | dpkg | rtorrent: (ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent), section net, is extra. Version: 0.5.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 230 kB, Installed size: 648 kB |
| 07:48.36 | Aconitic | i searched for torrent and all i see is bittornado, qtorrent and azureus |
| 07:48.42 | blackjudas | Hrrm, ok well it seems that one of the packages I want to apt-get --reinstall install depends on libgc1, but is unavailable in sid. I'm unfamiliar with the package, is it required? Or can I remove all of its ... dependents? |
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| 07:52.00 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: you know that blue debian tshirt? i want to exchange for a Large (=. its nice but its kinna small for Medium |
| 07:52.20 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i dont have receipt though hehe |
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| 07:52.59 | dlynch | can someone tell me how to insmod or mobprob to load the filter module into the kernel? |
| 07:53.19 | dlynch | oh sory, insmod or modprobe from iptables :) |
| 07:53.21 | deadcat | dlynch: modprobe |
| 07:53.56 | bengrubb | Hi, what chmod would be perfect for letting the server have full access as itself and the world having read? |
| 07:53.57 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: I don't have any blue ones |
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| 07:54.20 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: not blue but cyan? |
| 07:54.28 | dlynch | deadcat: iptables is telling me that I need to insmod to load the Filter mod into the kernel |
| 07:54.29 | dondelelcaro | yeah, I don't have any of those |
| 07:54.40 | deadcat | oh |
| 07:54.49 | dondelelcaro | plus, that was almost two years ago |
| 07:54.50 | deadcat | dlynch: modprobe -l |grep filter, then load that module |
| 07:54.54 | deadcat | (= |
| 07:55.06 | Aconitic | is bittornado anygood? |
| 07:55.10 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: not life-time guarantee eh? |
| 07:55.14 | deadcat | Aconitic: hella |
| 07:55.14 | dlynch | deadcat: nice thanks, will give it a go :) |
| 07:55.18 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: hardly |
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| 07:56.18 | clarity_ | is there a way to setup power management for a laptop in deb? |
| 07:56.19 | blackjudas | hrrm, here's what I have. |
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| 07:56.19 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: because i want to wear that one when i race. but its soo small )= |
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| 07:56.19 | deadcat | clarity_: yes |
| 07:56.26 | deadcat | bengrubb: 640 |
| 07:56.42 | blackjudas | apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg --get-selections|grep -v base-config|awk '{ print $1 }'` |
| 07:56.43 | deadcat | bengrubb: i mean 604 |
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| 07:57.07 | bengrubb | ok thanks i shall try |
| 07:57.11 | blackjudas | from that I get a Package libgc1 is not available but libgc1c2 is. |
| 07:57.16 | deadcat | bengrubb: thats pretty much the default perm |
| 07:57.26 | dlynch | deadcat: I don't get anything back at all :((, does that mean I need to rebulid the kernel? |
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| 07:58.03 | blackjudas | When I apt-rdepends libgc1, I get libc6, libgcc1 as dependants... both of which.. with apt-cache show, don't depend on libgc1. |
| 07:58.04 | deadcat | dlynch: iptables_filter <- try to load this |
| 07:58.07 | blackjudas | What to do? |
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| 07:59.06 | dlynch | deadcat: nope same thing |
| 07:59.16 | deadcat | dlynch: then you dont have it. what kernel you running? |
| 07:59.18 | blackjudas | My system hung in the middle of a dist-upgrade... |
| 07:59.28 | blackjudas | And is acting super hilarious. |
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| 07:59.53 | dlynch | deadcat: latest I thought, it was upgraded by another admin |
| 08:00.01 | deadcat | dlynch: uname -r |
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| 08:00.21 | dlynch | deadcat: 2.6.16.18 |
| 08:00.29 | rvalles | http://www.digg.com/links/The_Pirate_Bay_raid_issue:_English_coverage_blog |
| 08:00.46 | rvalles | amazing how much press the idiots |
| 08:00.46 | deadcat | dlynch: seems liek that admin compiled the kernel? maybe he/she didnt include filter |
| 08:00.48 | rvalles | at the antipiratbyran have managed to gather |
| 08:01.04 | rvalles | thanks the stupid raid they've endorsed |
| 08:01.08 | dlynch | deadcat: yeah I was thinking the same thing :(( |
| 08:01.27 | dlynch | deadcat: thanks for the help :) |
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| 08:01.47 | deadcat | dlynch: because i forgot to include the filter stuff as well on that same kernel. because they added a submenu just for filtering and its unset by default. |
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| 08:03.31 | crazy_penguin | good day to all! |
| 08:03.40 | zachhale | anyone have a good suggestion for a linux distro to put on my macbook w/ boot camp? |
| 08:03.55 | deadcat | zachhale: gentoo. |
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| 08:04.02 | zachhale | i was debating gentoo |
| 08:04.03 | formorer | debian |
| 08:04.04 | deadcat | zachhale: you have a macbook? nice |
| 08:04.05 | zachhale | why do you say? |
| 08:04.13 | zachhale | i bought a black one just tonight |
| 08:04.15 | deadcat | zachhale: it seems only gentoo howto out there (= |
| 08:04.20 | formorer | I hope that mine will arise next week |
| 08:04.21 | k-god | zachhale: yggdrasil! |
| 08:04.21 | deadcat | zachhale: nice.. |
| 08:04.28 | formorer | k-god: yeah, this was good stuff |
| 08:04.49 | deadcat | personally the macbook is too big.. i have an ibook snow. and thats a bit thick |
| 08:05.04 | k-god | deadcat: No, _you're_ a bit thick.... |
| 08:05.39 | deadcat | zachhale: isnt there parallel? better than bootcamp? |
| 08:05.50 | bengrubb | mmm i want boot cam... and a MAC |
| 08:05.55 | zachhale | yeah... but i still have to order more ram, this is temporary |
| 08:05.55 | bengrubb | camp* |
| 08:06.07 | deadcat | zachhale: ah.. |
| 08:06.22 | zachhale | parallels is crap w/ only 512mb |
| 08:06.28 | deadcat | damn |
| 08:06.40 | zachhale | and the memory for these things cost about 180.00 per gb stick |
| 08:06.42 | zachhale | pricey stuff |
| 08:07.01 | deadcat | zachhale: i dont know if installing linux on an apple dualcore the same as x86 dualcore. |
| 08:07.03 | formorer | no, its available for the half price if you buy in a normal shop |
| 08:07.22 | bengrubb | i like virtual desktops on MAC's and how you can have like windows on one virtual desktop and MAC OS 10 or whatever X on the other |
| 08:07.25 | deadcat | ya. if it has the apple logo. price * 2 |
| 08:07.28 | zachhale | deadcat: the macbook is perfect i think. i sold my 15" 1.5ghz powerbook tonight and bought the macbook |
| 08:07.32 | formorer | deadcat: its not exactly the same, you need an installer thats capable of EFI # |
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| 08:07.43 | k-god | bengrubb: Um. Sorry, howzat? |
| 08:07.44 | deadcat | zachhale: haha. nice |
| 08:07.51 | formorer | there is currently worked on |
| 08:07.56 | deadcat | formorer: ah.. does debian have one? |
| 08:08.06 | formorer | I think a few weeks then the d-i is available |
| 08:08.09 | bengrubb | k-god: i watched a video on it |
| 08:08.13 | formorer | deadcat: basically yes, but for IA64 |
| 08:08.15 | deadcat | formorer: nice. |
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| 08:08.18 | k-god | bengrubb: Parallels? |
| 08:08.30 | k-god | bengrubb: ... that's not virtual desktops, it's just a transition effect. |
| 08:08.32 | bengrubb | k-god: someione did a video on it i think its a hack but looks cool |
| 08:08.43 | formorer | deadcat: so the EFI stuff has just to be ported to ta ia32 installer |
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| 08:08.48 | zachhale | deadcat: so you say gentoo works then? |
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| 08:08.52 | rhalff | hi for some reason apt-get remove mydns-mysql hangs forever at: Purging configuration files for mydns-mysql ... |
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| 08:09.01 | rhalff | anyway to get it uninstalled (or reinstalled) |
| 08:09.02 | bengrubb | k-god: well.... the main thing is it looked very cool |
| 08:09.03 | deadcat | zachhale: fuck gentoo. just wait 2 weeks for the d-i (= |
| 08:09.05 | k-god | bengrubb: There's a few things you can do. Running rdesktop or Windows Remote Desktop client + Virtue might give a similar effect. |
| 08:09.25 | k-god | bengrubb: There's a lot of stuff on the Mac that looks cool, but is shite when you've got to deal with it. |
| 08:09.29 | zachhale | deadcat: d-i? |
| 08:09.35 | deadcat | zachhale: debian-installer |
| 08:09.36 | formorer | debian installer |
| 08:09.40 | zachhale | ah |
| 08:09.50 | zachhale | well this is a short-term 1-week thing |
| 08:09.52 | k-god | bengrubb: OS X virtual desktop support particularly, as it's not native and sucks with window/apps nav using Virtue. |
| 08:10.01 | deadcat | formorer: so dualcore is ia32 or ia64 instead of ppc or i386? |
| 08:10.03 | k-god | Darwin holehawg.local 8.6.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.1: Tue Mar 7 16:55:45 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.9.22.obj~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386 |
| 08:10.08 | bengrubb | here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbt9upE6hpM |
| 08:10.14 | k-god | bengrubb: ... just to make clear I'm speaking from experience. |
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| 08:10.27 | deadcat | osx is useless |
| 08:10.36 | bengrubb | ok well watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbt9upE6hpM and tell me your verdict |
| 08:10.37 | formorer | deadcat: its a simple ia32(i386), but with a modern bootsystem (EFI) |
| 08:11.05 | jon_ | Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "p |
| 08:11.05 | jon_ | ixmap", |
| 08:11.11 | formorer | deadcat: I don't know more about it yet, mine hasn't arrived... |
| 08:11.11 | jon_ | What's up with that? |
| 08:11.13 | k-god | bengrubb: Look at the discription: Mac mini Duo, running Parallels+Virtue Desktops. |
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| 08:11.24 | deadcat | formorer: thanks for the clarification. i dont know much about ARCHs. only have a PIII 800mhz and a 800mhz PPC |
| 08:11.25 | jon_ | It's from switch2, for a GTK theme. |
| 08:11.40 | deadcat | jon_: what theme you using? |
| 08:11.40 | k-god | bengrubb: You're watching someone transition between two Virtue desktops, one of which has Parallels running full screen. |
| 08:11.42 | jon_ | Am I missing a package or is there something wrong with the theme? |
| 08:11.46 | bengrubb | good |
| 08:11.50 | jon_ | Digital-Dark-Blue 1 from gnome-look.org. |
| 08:12.02 | k-god | bengrubb: That's not fast OS switching, just a neat combo of other stuff. |
| 08:12.09 | bengrubb | very hneat |
| 08:12.11 | deadcat | jon_: clearlooks engines? |
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| 08:12.15 | jon_ | deadcat Sorry, "DigitalDark-Blue-1.0". |
| 08:12.21 | k-man | does ext3 have a 4gig file size limit? |
| 08:12.25 | jon_ | deadcat I have those installed. |
| 08:12.28 | Aconitic | has anyone used qtorrent |
| 08:12.36 | deadcat | jon_: must be bad theme then (= |
| 08:12.51 | bengrubb | so its not actually on the computer really its just remote deskop to those other computers dam |
| 08:12.52 | k-god | bengrubb: You could do the same running qemu or vmware fullscreen in Linux, with multiple desktops, swapping between them, say with E transitions. |
| 08:13.00 | k-god | bengrubb: No, it's a virtual machine. |
| 08:13.02 | jon_ | deadcat It works on Gentoo and Ubuntu. |
| 08:13.06 | deadcat | jon_: you also need at least 2.7 clearlooks right? |
| 08:13.13 | deadcat | jon_: must be debian then (= |
| 08:13.16 | k-god | bengrubb: ... the Windows and RHEL instances are virtual, Mac is native. |
| 08:13.24 | bengrubb | mmm MAC |
| 08:14.13 | jon_ | deadcat I'm on Debian Stable right now. |
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| 08:14.28 | Apok | Hi... |
| 08:14.29 | k-god | bengrubb: Virtue tends to be stunningly unresponsive when the system's swapping, parallels gets the system to swap hard, and the entire system bogs when parallels is running, IME. |
| 08:14.42 | deadcat | formorer: zachhale: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/ibook_800/20040929_canonS230_0421.jpg |
| 08:14.45 | jon_ | deadcat Looks like version 0.5-1 when I used apt-ceach showpkg gtk2-engines-clearlooks. |
| 08:14.56 | deadcat | jon_: ah. the clearlooks 2.7 needs testing or unstable. |
| 08:15.00 | Apok | i have a problem with my microsoft wireless optical desktop |
| 08:15.02 | bengrubb | this is different though isnt it |
| 08:15.03 | bengrubb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE1XQyT_IbA&search=linux%20windows%20mac%20parallels%20virtualization |
| 08:15.09 | Apok | the keyboard is fine |
| 08:15.20 | bengrubb | as the title suggests Fast OS Switching on MacBook |
| 08:15.21 | zachhale | deadcat: nice, is that yours? |
| 08:15.28 | Apok | but the mouse click alone any time!!! |
| 08:15.30 | deadcat | zachhale: ya. g3 though |
| 08:15.34 | Apok | what I need to do???? |
| 08:15.45 | zachhale | deadcat: what distro you run? |
| 08:15.48 | Apok | mi distro is debian |
| 08:15.52 | deadcat | zachhale: guess |
| 08:16.03 | zachhale | *sigh* okay okay, i know where i am |
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| 08:16.09 | Apok | any can help me? |
| 08:16.46 | Apok | ... |
| 08:17.32 | deadcat | jon_: the clearlooks in stable is pretty old. even the ones in testing and unstable are only 2.6, i built a 2.7 but i doubt that works on stable. |
| 08:18.06 | deadcat | Apok: all my kb/mouse are wired (= |
| 08:18.13 | rohan | is there any elegant way to do "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" that mplayer demands ? i remember there was some sysctl control for it |
| 08:18.21 | Apok | deadcat, microsoft??? |
| 08:18.25 | deadcat | rohan: /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 08:18.29 | zachhale | deadcat: http://www.flickr.com/photos/84176137@N00/ |
| 08:18.32 | zachhale | that's mine |
| 08:18.38 | deadcat | Apok: NEC kb, MS optical 2 button mouse |
| 08:18.41 | rohan | yes, deadcat, but what do i put in there ? |
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| 08:19.15 | Apok | deadcat, when you install your linux, the mouse works fine??? |
| 08:19.16 | deadcat | rohan: nothing . just load mousedev |
| 08:19.21 | deadcat | Apok: yes. |
| 08:19.28 | deadcat | zachhale: goddamn (= |
| 08:19.36 | Apok | deadcat, what your config??? device, etc??? |
| 08:19.45 | rohan | deadcat: err.. mousedev ?! in sysctl ? |
| 08:19.48 | Apok | I hate microsoft..haaehueah |
| 08:19.50 | deadcat | Apok: sshonly.sytes.net/config/etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 08:20.14 | Apok | deadcat... ok! tanks!!! |
| 08:20.34 | pif | dist-upgraded my unstable laptop this morning and my xfs root if fucked |
| 08:21.00 | deadcat | pif: lesson learned. never dist-upgrade |
| 08:21.03 | rohan | deadcat: i sitll dont get you .. isnt mousedev a module ? |
| 08:21.26 | pif | "always dist-upgrade and learn how to unfuck" is more my motto |
| 08:21.33 | Apok | deadcat, my config is ok!!!! but dont work... ;/ |
| 08:21.47 | deadcat | rohan: ya. thats all i have to do to get the mouse to work |
| 08:21.49 | Apok | this suck mouse dont stop click aloneee |
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| 08:22.18 | rohan | deadcat: but i am not talking about it.. i am talking about "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" that mplayer demands |
| 08:22.26 | deadcat | rohan: i think i mixed you up with Apok. damn 1:22am and i am tired |
| 08:22.34 | rohan | deadcat: lol, get some sleep ;) |
| 08:22.39 | deadcat | rohan: /etc/sysctl.conf, man that file |
| 08:22.46 | rohan | deadcat: ah, ok |
| 08:22.59 | deadcat | rohan: shhhh. i am waiting for fucking ubuntu to finish upgrading on my test machine (= |
| 08:23.14 | Apok | deadcat, i find a solution!!! |
| 08:23.17 | deadcat | rohan: just edit that file. it has examples |
| 08:23.34 | Apok | i will buy other mouse |
| 08:23.34 | Apok | ehueauheauh |
| 08:23.34 | deadcat | zachhale: damn you have alot of toys (= |
| 08:23.47 | deadcat | Apok: thats the spirit.. |
| 08:23.49 | zachhale | deadcat: yeah.... |
| 08:23.51 | Apok | ehaeuh |
| 08:24.03 | Apok | tanks for help..and sorry my english... :/ |
| 08:24.03 | deadcat | zachhale: the green drink looks good too |
| 08:24.22 | Apok | greatings from Brazil... ;) |
| 08:24.26 | zachhale | deadcat: it's a San Pellegrino Limonada soda |
| 08:24.38 | deadcat | nice |
| 08:24.42 | rohan | deadcat: ubuntu servers are still very slow right ? |
| 08:25.04 | formorer | this is not an ubuntu channel |
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| 08:25.21 | deadcat | zachhale: one thing i dont get MAC, the macbook is black. why not make the fucking power adpator and the remote black too. )= damn them |
| 08:25.25 | rohan | yes, my bad |
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| 08:25.40 | zachhale | deadcat: oh well... |
| 08:25.41 | deadcat | rohan: i dont know. its a celeron HP machine. and its ubuntu desktop (= |
| 08:25.57 | fly_80 | deadcat: my friend's macbook is white |
| 08:26.01 | deadcat | zachhale: just like the macbookpro as well. luckily my ibook is white |
| 08:26.21 | Hemorrhage | Is there a way to list all packages from a particular repo with apt? I'm used to pacman (Arch Linux) in which I could do this |
| 08:26.31 | deadcat | fly_80: ya. color SHOULD match (= |
| 08:27.00 | deadcat | Hemorrhage: use the browser to go to that url (= |
| 08:27.12 | Hemorrhage | damn, alright |
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| 08:27.56 | deadcat | Hemorrhage: i think the reason apt doesnt have it because theres soo many packages in a repo. |
| 08:28.16 | Hemorrhage | Ya thats true, but I'm just looking for a listing of someones custom repo |
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| 08:28.29 | wombachi | should lvm on raid work in etch d-i ? |
| 08:28.30 | Hemorrhage | in which this case a cli option would be handy |
| 08:28.30 | deadcat | ya |
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| 08:29.42 | yang | My Xorg session is using 95% cpu...I don't know what causes it? |
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| 08:30.03 | wombachi | yang a stupid proprietary driver, most probably ? |
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| 08:30.17 | yang | wombachi: could be nvidia? |
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| 08:30.29 | highslime | aha, i finaly figured out how to use IRC.. its' been like 10 years. |
| 08:30.29 | deadcat | Hemorrhage: wget -O - repourl/Packages.gz | zcat | grep ^Package |
| 08:30.39 | wombachi | yang: I often saw problems with those (nvidia/ati) :-/ |
| 08:30.43 | brownie17 | does anyone know a package that is in the repos (or not) that might help me convert an AVI file to an MPEG, or even a VCD compatible MPEG |
| 08:30.51 | Hemorrhage | deadcat, ahh yes |
| 08:30.58 | formorer | deadcat: zgrep |
| 08:31.02 | deadcat | ah |
| 08:31.02 | wombachi | yang: try to restart X server, unload the module. Or reboot :-/ |
| 08:31.05 | yang | wombachi: is there any log? |
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| 08:31.19 | deadcat | formorer: only learned grep, egrep, fgrep (= |
| 08:31.23 | formorer | :) |
| 08:31.38 | deadcat | brownie17: mencoder |
| 08:32.04 | highslime | was hoping someone could help me out, found this channel thru the debian website. basically i get all the way to loading the gmd, and i get a spurious 8259A interrupt:irq7 error :/ |
| 08:32.08 | brownie17 | deadcat, is it gui or console? |
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| 08:32.19 | deadcat | command line |
| 08:32.21 | wombachi | yang: no. Sometimes, the drivers just go mad. If 3D is not important to you and free drivers exists, use those |
| 08:32.21 | highslime | and i'm completely new to linux :/ |
| 08:32.23 | yang | wombachi: occasionally it goes down to 50% and then again up to 95% |
| 08:33.19 | unix_infidel | can regular cli mode console handle .fnt files. |
| 08:33.23 | wombachi | yang: this is way too much. about 0-2% on my current box. |
| 08:33.32 | unix_infidel | i'm trying to run cmatrix on regular cli but it wont display the matrix.fnt correctly. |
| 08:34.01 | deadcat | unix_infidel: the f is .fnt files? |
| 08:34.09 | unix_infidel | deadcat: yea...its called matrix.fnt |
| 08:34.17 | deadcat | ah |
| 08:34.29 | unix_infidel | i cant get it to get display properly in console. |
| 08:34.33 | deadcat | unix_infidel: i thought cmatrix can only do shit ass fonts (= |
| 08:34.35 | unix_infidel | but in a terminal like aterm or Eterm it works fine. |
| 08:34.46 | unix_infidel | deadcat: find me a better ap. |
| 08:34.47 | unix_infidel | app* |
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| 08:34.55 | wombachi | yang: kill all your X sessions and see if cpu usage become normal |
| 08:34.58 | deadcat | unix_infidel: wmmatrix (= |
| 08:35.16 | zachhale | any of you students at the University of Washington by chance? |
| 08:35.17 | unix_infidel | deadcat: does that work in cli? |
| 08:35.22 | deadcat | unix_infidel: nope |
| 08:35.33 | unix_infidel | so how does that help me. |
| 08:35.38 | deadcat | yang: nvidia card right? |
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| 08:35.41 | deadcat | unix_infidel: it dont |
| 08:36.24 | yang | deadcat: yeah nvidia |
| 08:36.27 | deadcat | yang: if its nvidia, you might have to set your NvAGP to 1.. i had that problem before.. X dont move |
| 08:36.27 | unix_infidel | lol, so i'm asking is the console able to do .fnt fonts. |
| 08:36.30 | deadcat | cpu 100% |
| 08:36.39 | brownie17 | deadcat, getting the following error with mencoder "Exiting... (error parsing cmdline)" |
| 08:36.49 | deadcat | brownie17: i dont use mencoder. |
| 08:37.01 | Hemorrhage | unix_infidel, why not trial and error? |
| 08:37.13 | brownie17 | i am getting the following error when trying to use mencoder "Exiting... (error parsing cmdline)" can anyone help me? |
| 08:37.19 | unix_infidel | Hemorrhage: its not working. |
| 08:37.24 | unix_infidel | trial..........and error. |
| 08:37.50 | Hemorrhage | well then the answer is probably..... no :-P |
| 08:37.59 | highslime | can someone help me figure out how to get the gui to work my my computer? it keeps defaulting to the cli, and i've downloaded the drivers, had a friend talk me through the commands to get them installed, and still nothing |
| 08:38.07 | unix_infidel | Hemorrhage: no...that just means i havent been able to get it working yet. |
| 08:38.10 | yang | deadcat: well it looks like amule causes it...with all its threads... |
| 08:38.30 | deadcat | yang: ah. so its not xorg then |
| 08:38.34 | highslime | i think it's a video thing, i have an ati radeon 9250 |
| 08:38.55 | yang | deadcat: yeah but in "top" there is 95% cpu usage on Xorg |
| 08:39.41 | wombachi | highslime. Did you find drivers at ati.com? Are you using xorg? |
| 08:39.43 | deadcat | yang: might want to do NvAGP 1 just in case. i had that problem for over a year. )= FUCK that sucked. |
| 08:39.54 | Hemorrhage | unix_infidel, now that I think about it, I remember a tool convert windows fonts (.fnt) |
| 08:40.17 | highslime | wombachi:i can't even get xserver or whatever it's called to load. and yeah i got them from ati.com. |
| 08:40.18 | wombachi | highslime: a radeon on my laptop was supported by ati, but only for xorg 6.8 and I was using 6.9 :-( |
| 08:40.29 | unix_infidel | Hemorrhage: its not a windows font |
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| 08:40.33 | unix_infidel | its a native linux font... |
| 08:40.40 | unix_infidel | that cmatrix (a gpl linux program) uses. |
| 08:40.43 | highslime | wombachi:i'm completely new to linux btw :( |
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| 08:41.12 | cableroy | Where do i set -D SECURITY to apache2 in debian? |
| 08:41.15 | Hemorrhage | unix_infidel, well FYI .fnt's are actually windows font files |
| 08:41.18 | highslime | i'm just sick of windows not letting me customize it how i want it without getting mad because i've changed ntoskrnl. :/ |
| 08:41.35 | yang | wombachi: deadcat could you have a look at http://pastebin.com/753069 , where my xorg.conf is, and mark there if anything seems odd, so I could dpkg-reconfigure it ? |
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| 08:42.43 | wombachi | highslime: won't be easy then :-/ You need to install the right ati drivers, corresponding to the x package installed on your box. Sarge, Etch? |
| 08:43.02 | yang | deadcat: i dont see an option NvAGP in xorg.conf... |
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| 08:43.15 | deadcat | yang: dpkg-reconfigure wont do anything about nvidia. you have to edit the file. backup the file first |
| 08:43.44 | deadcat | yang: this is my xorg.conf sshonly.sytes.net/config/etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 08:43.53 | wombachi | highslime: Which version do you see with "dpkg -l xserver\* | grep ^i" (as root)? |
| 08:43.57 | highslime | wombachi:sarge, i believe. i went with the most recent stable version there is, i don't need any test or beta, whatever. i've tried the ati option in the install, as well as the fglrx that i read about that has to do with ati. nothing's working |
| 08:44.23 | deadcat | yang: you're using nv driver. which is NOT the nvidia driver. so... |
| 08:44.34 | highslime | wombachi:to do that, i have to reboot into linux :( let me write that down, do that, and i'll brb. |
| 08:44.44 | rhalff | what's the correct way to select an alternative like php5.0 instead of for example php5.1 cli |
| 08:44.44 | wombachi | highslime: with recent hardware (esp laptops), don't use sarge, it's a real nightmare. Use testing/etch. |
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| 08:45.01 | rhalff | right now I'm just changing the symlink |
| 08:45.13 | brownie17 | can anybody help me use menconde to convert an AVI file to a VCD compatible MPEG? i have searched all through the MAN page for mencoder, but unfortunately it's mixed with mpayer info and it's confusing |
| 08:45.15 | rohan | rhalff: see if it is listed in alternatives |
| 08:45.23 | highslime | wombachi: i don't suppose having an amd athlonxp2500+ doesn't help either :/ |
| 08:45.26 | wombachi | highslime: Debian testing/etch is at least as much "stable" as other "stable" distros. |
| 08:45.32 | yang | deadcat: yes, so i need to compile again that nvidia-tools package...? |
| 08:45.33 | rhalff | rohan, how to list alternatives ? |
| 08:45.45 | rohan | rhalff: update-alternatives --display FOO |
| 08:45.59 | wombachi | highslime: cpu support is not often a problem. And AMD is soo much better than Intel :p |
| 08:46.02 | rhalff | rohan, ah thanks |
| 08:46.12 | yang | deadcat: nvidia oneliner or what was its name |
| 08:46.16 | rohan | rhalff: :) |
| 08:46.54 | rohan | rhalff: if it is not, make sure you make a symlink in /usr/local/bin and in your PATH, /usr/local bin appears first (thats exactly what i do for python) |
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| 08:47.19 | highslime | wombachi: well let me see what version of xserver i'm using, then get back to you. i'm not exactly keen on doint a net install again :/ |
| 08:48.49 | ice_1963 | how can you install the nvidia driver in etch it's not there |
| 08:49.05 | deadcat | yang: ya. when you lsmod |grep nvidia. it should show. |
| 08:49.06 | ice_1963 | for 3d |
| 08:49.20 | deadcat | !nvidia one-liner |
| 08:49.21 | dpkg | from memory, nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 08:49.30 | wombachi | highslime: you can upgrade from stable to testing without installing everything again |
| 08:49.58 | highslime | wombachi:so i can upgrade the install i have now to etch? interesting. |
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| 08:50.26 | yang | deadcat: nvidia 3922300 0 ; agpgart 35464 2 via_agp,nvidia |
| 08:51.07 | deadcat | yang: change the config file from nv to nvidia and add the NvAGP 1 line to that section of the config file then restart X |
| 08:51.18 | yang | ok |
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| 08:51.39 | brownie17 | getting the following error with mencoder "Cannot open output file '/home/fraser/vcd/file.mpeg'." can anyone help? |
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| 08:52.25 | cableroy | Where do i set -D SECURITY to apache2 in debian? |
| 08:52.36 | wombachi | highslime yes, that's one of the reasons why I choose Debian |
| 08:52.49 | ice_1963 | the nvidia driver is not in etch last time i looked |
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| 08:53.22 | lord_rob | highslime: debian : install once, upgrade forever :) |
| 08:53.24 | highslime | wombachi:well i'm assuming since i can't get into X, i'll have to upgrade using some sort of command |
| 08:54.21 | lord_rob | highslime: check aptitude |
| 08:54.35 | yang | deadcat: but strange thing, if I do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "nvidia" is not listed there, only "nv" |
| 08:54.48 | deadcat | yang: strange. |
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| 08:55.36 | ddum74 | Good morning! |
| 08:55.41 | surlaw-away | Hi, im using a distrib based on debian, but by default, the cdrom is mount in /mnt/cdrom0 and not /mnt/cdrom, so the apt-get install doesn't work since it's looking in /mnt/cdrom, how should i fix that ? :p |
| 08:55.44 | lord_rob | yang: it won't be listed unless you install nvidia-glx. Then it won't be listed but you won't be prompted for a choice, it will be selected by default (if i remember correctly) |
| 08:55.51 | highslime | rob:i hate to say this, but i have no idea what that means, i'm completely new to linux. i've seen it used on my box when things went bad, a friend used linux to fix everything. |
| 08:56.16 | highslime | i'm going to assume it's an apt-get though |
| 08:56.18 | yang | deadcat: "nvidia oneliner" says it should be in /etc/modules |
| 08:56.30 | yang | and its not there (yet) |
| 08:56.44 | ddum74 | I am trying to find a ATA-RAID card which is supported pretty much "out of the box" on 3.1. Are all the 3Ware supported? What about Adapted? (i only need two disk RAID-1) |
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| 08:57.49 | brownie17 | does anyone know of a VCD burning GUI utility that will support AVI files? |
| 08:57.50 | lord_rob | highslime: were you talking to me ? |
| 08:58.20 | highslime | rob:yeah, or wombachi, he was the one who told me i could upgrade w/o doing another net install. |
| 08:58.28 | deadcat | yang: add it there. after installing nvidia stuff. i recommend rebooting the machine (= |
| 08:58.39 | highslime | i just need to know how, all i have is the cli, i can't start X, because my hardware is gay |
| 08:59.05 | deadcat | highslime: ya. gay hardware will do that to you alright |
| 08:59.17 | deadcat | they cant seem to get it straight |
| 08:59.22 | lord_rob | highslime: what is it exactly ? |
| 08:59.24 | highslime | i figure if i can run a ps2 emulator on my system, i can run linux, dammit. |
| 08:59.25 | lord_rob | lol deadcat :) |
| 08:59.28 | deadcat | (= |
| 08:59.42 | yang | lord_rob: you know there is no package named nvidia-glx in etch, only nvidia-glx-legacy |
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| 08:59.51 | highslime | i believe my problem lies with my ati radeon 9250 |
| 09:00.06 | ice_1963 | :) |
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| 09:00.16 | highslime | i have an n2u400a mobo, with an nvidia chipset and an amd athlon 2500+ |
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| 09:00.43 | lord_rob | yang: I stopped using official non-free nvidia packages (I use nv now) so I can't help you any further sorry :/ |
| 09:00.46 | migiel | does anyone know how I can pass variables to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper ? |
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| 09:03.58 | highslime | woot. apt-get upgrade. i think. |
| 09:04.26 | lord_rob | highslime: aptitude is smoother to do upgrades (apt-get install aptitude) |
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| 09:04.45 | Foobar | When I login via ssh my .bashrc file is not executed, why? |
| 09:04.45 | ice_1963 | lord_rob,but what about 3d for nvidia |
| 09:05.00 | Foobar | More importantly, how can I make it execute? |
| 09:05.02 | highslime | rob:and that would take me from sarge to etch? |
| 09:05.27 | lord_rob | highslime: yes if you change your sources.list accordingly |
| 09:05.35 | wombachi | highslime: use (apt-get|aptitude) dist-upgrade when migrating from stable to testing. "smarter" than "upgrade" |
| 09:06.21 | wombachi | highslime: in the past, I migrated a box via ssh from potato to woody by mistake. But it worked :) |
| 09:06.24 | lord_rob | ice_1963: huh ? i was talking to yang for that |
| 09:06.55 | ice_1963 | well ok |
| 09:07.09 | lord_rob | wombachi: I was not talking about dist-upgrade, only about using aptitude gui |
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| 09:07.35 | lord_rob | ice_1963: I don't understand your question actually :/ sorry |
| 09:07.53 | highslime | well if etch will better detect what i have and let me into X, then i'm all for it. so to make sure i have this right, it's apt-get aptitude dist-upgrade? or type it exactly as you did? |
| 09:08.04 | ricky_clarkson | Hi. 2.4 boots fine. 2.6.16 boots, but it recognises my hard drive as /dev/sda, not /dev/hda. |
| 09:08.05 | highslime | parenthesis and all |
| 09:08.15 | ricky_clarkson | Is there a way of making both kernels bootable? |
| 09:08.29 | lord_rob | highslime: "apt-get install aptitude" then "aptitude" |
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| 09:08.35 | dn4 | where are some good places to go in Cancun? |
| 09:08.39 | wombachi | lord_rob : OK. I should not try to do several things at the same time |
| 09:08.39 | lord_rob | highslime: aptitude has a gui |
| 09:08.43 | blondie | dn4: what? |
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| 09:09.01 | dn4 | I amg oing ot cancun on the 11th, wonder where I should go |
| 09:09.16 | highslime | rob:thanks. is the gui pretty self-explanatory? or is there more i need to know before i try this?> |
| 09:09.21 | blondie | is that a debian question? :P |
| 09:09.40 | lord_rob | wombachi: dist-upgrade is a solution also but aptitude gui gives you more control, especially when "upgrading" to sid |
| 09:10.04 | dn4 | blondie, of course, all debian programmers are chilling in cancun programming on the beaches |
| 09:10.06 | nakhle | Is there anyway to install a li nux distro over the net through knoppix |
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| 09:10.15 | rohan | nakhle: debian, yes |
| 09:10.16 | lord_rob | highslime: more or less, it's a text gui. |
| 09:10.19 | rohan | use debootstrap |
| 09:10.24 | rohan | !tell nakhle about debootstrap |
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| 09:10.44 | wombachi | lord_rob. sorry, I'm a "CLI" guy. I upgrade via ssh, and never use GUI tools for package mgmt. Perhaps I should try, one day :) |
| 09:11.00 | highslime | rob:fair enough. i suppose i'll give this a shot, and return soon. |
| 09:11.09 | lord_rob | wombachi: aptitude is a text gui so it works via ssh |
| 09:11.14 | wombachi | lord_rob: sometimes, aptitude (cli) does strange things apt-get does not |
| 09:11.33 | highslime | wombachi:yeah, from what my friend has dictated to me about using the command line, i really like that |
| 09:11.35 | wombachi | ex remove "unused" packages |
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| 09:11.53 | ktwilight | explain wombachi |
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| 09:12.19 | pdbogen | Good morning, gentlemen. |
| 09:12.28 | rohan | pdbogen: and ladies ? |
| 09:12.35 | nakhle | is debian good for a newb? |
| 09:12.37 | pdbogen | Absolutely. |
| 09:12.38 | ktwilight | has anyone experience gaim (msn) disconnecting just moments leaving the pc idle? |
| 09:12.38 | wombachi | ktwilight: on a fresh etch install, aptitude install ... wanted to remove some freshly installed packages (apache2-php by example iirc). |
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| 09:12.54 | lord_rob | highslime: maybe if you are really new to linux you should not try debian as your first distro. Get some experience before, I don't know ... |
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| 09:13.17 | ktwilight | i don't see any problems with debian for newbies. though maybe ubuntu would help more...? |
| 09:13.27 | nakhle | is debian good for a newb? |
| 09:13.28 | ice_1963 | lord_rob, well i can install the nvidia one-liner in sid or sarge but not etch...how come the driver got puled out of etch sources list or non-free? |
| 09:13.29 | wombachi | nakhle: try a deb-based before, ex (k)ubuntu, this would be more simple than trying to master Debian Sarge |
| 09:13.32 | wnm | yes |
| 09:13.45 | pdbogen | nakhle : As ktwilight said; Ubuntu is easier to install, but you ought to learn more using straight Debian. |
| 09:13.47 | lord_rob | ktwilight: the problem is hardware support. Especially with sarge and recent machines |
| 09:13.50 | ktwilight | wombachi, if you're talkin' 'bout removing dependencies as well, then i do agree with you. neither do apt-get remove or aptitude remove --purge helps... |
| 09:14.13 | pdbogen | nakhle : If you have *no* knowledge of Linux or Unix-like operating systems, you're probably better off with Ubuntu or something similar. |
| 09:14.20 | wombachi | ktwilight: the Debian deps are way better than on any other distros I've used. |
| 09:14.34 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Do you usually frequent IRC channels without people on them? |
| 09:14.39 | ktwilight | i agree with you wombachi. but not when uninstalling/removing |
| 09:14.54 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : It's early in the morning. Most of my IRC channels have people on them in my time zone. (It's 4AM there) |
| 09:14.58 | lord_rob | ktwilight: and if you tell a newbie he should try debian etch installer beta, well it might be frightening |
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| 09:15.03 | ktwilight | lord_rob, hardware support...really depends on what you have. if ya have wireless, it can be a problem. |
| 09:15.18 | highslime | hah. i trid ubuntu and i wanted to scream. the firefox that came with it was incredibly slow and i tried to upgrade it to the 1.5 (read it on an ubuntu page), i completely lost firefox. couldn't get it back thru synaptic or anything. that made me mad :( |
| 09:15.41 | ktwilight | it's ok haha |
| 09:15.53 | wombachi | ktwilight: hw support in sarge really sucks. Try installing it on any recent dell server or laptop : a nightmare |
| 09:15.58 | lord_rob | ktwilight: I'm not a debian newbie (using sid for 5 years) nevertheless I had problems installing sid on my thinkpad |
| 09:16.16 | Knorrie | don't use dell :) |
| 09:16.18 | highslime | plus, the only real live support i have via phone, he uses suse |
| 09:16.30 | wombachi | Knorrie: sometimes I wish I could :) |
| 09:16.32 | pdbogen | Knorrie : Dell laptops have very nice screens and are quite cheap. |
| 09:16.36 | ktwilight | oh... |
| 09:16.39 | lord_rob | highslime: have you tried kanotix ? |
| 09:16.48 | ktwilight | i never try it on a laptop, but i'm guessing it'll be difficult. |
| 09:16.50 | highslime | he's used debian, but never heard of ubuntu. so i kinda gotta go with what i can get help with |
| 09:16.59 | pdbogen | Knorrie : No other manufacturer that I know of makes a 15" laptop with a screen that does 1920x1200; especially not for $1300. |
| 09:17.14 | ktwilight | wombachi, ya making me think twice whether i should get a high end server with debian sarge... :/ |
| 09:17.19 | ktwilight | what sort of problems did you encounter? |
| 09:17.33 | ktwilight | e.g. on which hardware? |
| 09:17.41 | pdbogen | highslime : Ubuntu should work mostly the same as Debian, but that's neither here nor there, really. Debian is better, IMHO.. but I have no rational basis for that statement. I'd greatly appreciate any that can provide such rational basis, by the by. |
| 09:18.15 | wombachi | ktwilight: with woody : no disk nor eth support. With Sarge now, no disk support. that kind of *big* problems. |
| 09:18.32 | highslime | pdbogen:yeah, being that i've spent 4 hours doing a net install of debian sarge, i have my heart set on learning this. |
| 09:18.33 | pdbogen | What bothers me most about Ubuntu is that it sprang fully-formed from the ether, being that it's basically a fork of Debian, but they don't give props to their ancestry. It seems somehow spectacularly ungrateful. |
| 09:18.36 | ktwilight | disk support? as in sata or ide or scsi? and what do youmnean by support? |
| 09:19.08 | wombachi | ktwilight: no hw raid support, so no disk seen by (too old) kernel. |
| 09:19.18 | wombachi | ktwilight: and no sata on another box |
| 09:19.25 | highslime | but wombachi suggested i upgrade to etch because etch is better with hardware(or something to that effect) than sarge is. |
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| 09:19.29 | lord_rob | wombachi: have you tried debian etch beta installer ? |
| 09:19.38 | highslime | and it's 4:20am. woot. |
| 09:19.49 | wombachi | highslime: on desktop box, yes. But I prefer Stable on servers |
| 09:19.53 | pdbogen | highslime ; Liar; it's 5:20AM. |
| 09:19.55 | ktwilight | hmmm... |
| 09:19.55 | Knorrie | highslime: or use sarge and a recent kernel from backports |
| 09:20.05 | wombachi | lord_rob: I'm having issues with it right now, with lvm on raid :-/ |
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| 09:20.18 | Edward_TLS | ok... I installed all /topic |
| 09:20.24 | wombachi | lord_rob: but it's way better than woody/sarge installer :) |
| 09:20.38 | pdbogen | Ech. LVM. I've been using the md stuff on my file server at home. It's delicious. |
| 09:20.40 | ktwilight | sounds like i need to hunt for another distro for my server :( |
| 09:20.54 | ktwilight | am planning to have raid1 mirroring on it at least. |
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| 09:21.05 | highslime | wombachi:all i use this for is to surf the net and play a mud. nothing fancy. |
| 09:21.11 | pdbogen | ktwilight : Debian Etch ought to be able to do what you need. |
| 09:21.14 | pdbogen | highslime : Which one? |
| 09:21.14 | Knorrie | ktwilight: just try, i use raid 1 a lot with sarge |
| 09:21.16 | wombachi | ktwilight: there are solutions (backports) |
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| 09:21.28 | ktwilight | on a production server? etch sounds a bit...dangerous for now... |
| 09:21.31 | Knorrie | ktwilight: with hardware raid, software raid, lvm on raid etc etc |
| 09:21.39 | ktwilight | hm.... |
| 09:21.51 | Knorrie | and with the default sarge 2.6.8 kernel |
| 09:21.55 | pdbogen | ktwilight : Well, Etch is better than Sid. Honestly, Sarge is pretty up there, and you can always compile your own kernel to get better hardware support. |
| 09:21.58 | ricky_clarkson | On 2.4 my hard drive appears as /dev/hda, on 2.6 as /dev/sda |
| 09:21.59 | ktwilight | which is sought as best on debian raid support? hardware, or software? |
| 09:22.00 | highslime | pdbogen:materia magica, i still call it moongate though |
| 09:22.12 | ricky_clarkson | Should I just edit the /etc/fstab in 2.4 then reboot to 2.6? |
| 09:22.32 | ktwilight | i heard that 2.6 doesn't quite detect sata drives...? |
| 09:22.35 | ricky_clarkson | Or, no, I think I need to tell grub about it. |
| 09:22.40 | ktwilight | or identify 'em properly. |
| 09:22.57 | wombachi | ktwilight : nope, it's 2.4 that has poor sata support. Only backports from the 2.6 line from time to time |
| 09:22.58 | ricky_clarkson | ktwilight: I heard something like that, I thought that's why I was using 2.6.16 instead of 2.6.8 ;) |
| 09:23.02 | pdbogen | ktwilight : I prefer software, because you're guaranteed to be able to get meaningful drive state info about it. But there might be better reasons for using hardware, especially if you happen to have a slower processor, and/or are doing CPU intensive tasks. |
| 09:23.02 | ktwilight | compiling own kernel sounds good. but as a noob, i kinda doubt that can be an option. haha |
| 09:23.13 | ktwilight | oops, sorry, my bad. i meant 2.4 haha |
| 09:23.31 | pdbogen | ktwilight : It's not really that hard, as long as you don't mind a bit of trial and error and reading help files. |
| 09:23.37 | ricky_clarkson | So, any suggestions, or should I wait for the Americans to get up? ;) |
| 09:23.39 | ktwilight | am using 2.6.15, for i've heard that 2.6.16 can do bad things. |
| 09:23.39 | ktwilight | haha |
| 09:23.46 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : I'm American. What's the problem, again? |
| 09:23.55 | ricky_clarkson | On 2.4 my hard drive appears as /dev/hda, on 2.6 as /dev/sda |
| 09:23.56 | pdbogen | Ah, I see. |
| 09:24.06 | ricky_clarkson | But grub or whatever is set to use /dev/hda. |
| 09:24.09 | lord_rob | ricky_clarkson: yes change fstab and mtab then reboot it should work |
| 09:24.10 | wombachi | pdbogen: I think hardware is only better for raid5. For raid1, software is good (mails sent by mdadm etc) |
| 09:24.15 | ktwilight | that i don't mind pdbogen, what i do mind is...lack of documentation/help files. :/ |
| 09:24.26 | pdbogen | Yeah, that's because of the different ways SATA is supported. You could set up ide-scsi on 2.4, I think, to make it map hda to sda. |
| 09:24.47 | ktwilight | hmm... |
| 09:24.48 | pdbogen | (If you wanted both to work without having to muck around with fstab every time) |
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| 09:25.09 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: You mean boot to 2.4, install ide-scsi, then change everything in fstab to /dev/sda, then be happy? |
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| 09:25.26 | pdbogen | Yes-ish, being that ide-scsi is a kernel option, and not a package. |
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| 09:25.57 | ricky_clarkson | Kernel option as in something I need to get grub to pass to it? |
| 09:26.00 | pdbogen | It's usually used to make CD burners work properly, so I don't promise it'll work for this, but it seems reasonable. |
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| 09:26.32 | pdbogen | Assuming it's compiled into your kernel already (if you're using a Debian kernel, it should be there), then yes, it's just an issue of changing your grub's menu.lst to pass the right option. |
| 09:26.37 | wombachi | ricky_clarkson: simply load the module in kernel, (modprobe ide-scsi) |
| 09:26.49 | brownie17 | does anyone know if the aegis virus scanner is actually designed to remove viruses? or just find them? |
| 09:26.51 | wombachi | ricky_clarkson: unless it's already compiled in |
| 09:26.58 | pdbogen | Hrm. If it's a module, there might be problems. |
| 09:27.00 | ricky_clarkson | wombachi: To make it happen on boot, should I shove that in /etc/modules? |
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| 09:27.39 | ricky_clarkson | Well, modprobe ide-scsi returned normally, so I'd guess it is as a module.. in 2.4. |
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| 09:28.02 | wombachi | lsmod|grep scsi will tell you |
| 09:28.12 | pdbogen | Okay, the problem here is that it will need the module to mount root, and it will need root mounted to get the module. |
| 09:28.21 | pdbogen | Unless it's in an initrd, which is black magic to me. |
| 09:28.22 | ricky_clarkson | ide-scsi 8272 0 |
| 09:28.49 | wombachi | so ide-scsi is a module in your config |
| 09:28.53 | pdbogen | This delicatessan doesn't have an electrical plug that I can use. -_- |
| 09:29.17 | ricky_clarkson | wombachi: So should I whack that into /etc/modules? |
| 09:29.19 | wombachi | pdbogen: initrd is just a ramdisk, a filesystem containing some modules |
| 09:29.45 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson ; A question that might be worth asking is, do you really need to be able to use kernel 2.4? If it's just for fallback purposes, it might be easier just to change fstab and stick with 2.6 as much as possible. |
| 09:29.59 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : You should always be able to boot a liveCD, change fstab back, and boot into 2.4, if necessary. |
| 09:29.59 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Fallback. |
| 09:30.06 | ricky_clarkson | Fair point. |
| 09:30.25 | ricky_clarkson | So, will adding ide-scsi into /etc/modules affect 2.6? |
| 09:30.31 | ricky_clarkson | 2.6 is 2.6.16 from backports. |
| 09:30.41 | pdbogen | Anyway, to answer your question, putting it in /etc/modules doesn't work, because of what I pointed out; what we're doing is changing where the root partition is, or trying to- which means ide-scsi needs to be loaded BEFORE the file would normally be accessible. |
| 09:30.57 | ricky_clarkson | Good point. |
| 09:31.01 | pdbogen | Putting it in /etc/modules shouldn't hurt anything, because I think it'll just fail to load. |
| 09:31.27 | pdbogen | Anyway, to make it work, you'd need ide-scsi in a ramdisk (and loaded by Grub), or compiled into the kernel (with options set by grub, such as: hda=scsi) |
| 09:31.45 | wombachi | pdbogen: that's what the ramdisk (initrd) is for : getting modules before disk is accessed |
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| 09:32.26 | ricky_clarkson | Hmm, still get a load of messages, not sure which are errors.. |
| 09:32.42 | ricky_clarkson | ide0: I/O resource 0x1F0-0x1F7 not free. |
| 09:32.55 | ricky_clarkson | ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe. |
| 09:32.58 | pdbogen | wombachi : Right, I suggested he might use an initrd. |
| 09:33.03 | ricky_clarkson | Same for ide1 with different numbers. |
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| 09:33.11 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Hrm. In your BIOS settings, do you have 'PnP OS' or something similar enabled? |
| 09:33.37 | pdbogen | (We want it enabled, I think. This lets the OS decide IO ports and whatnot, which may fix this problem?) |
| 09:33.39 | unix_infidel | hmm, debian wont be on freenode anymore....wow. |
| 09:33.47 | unix_infidel | why? |
| 09:33.52 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: There is no such option. |
| 09:34.00 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : How old is this computer? |
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| 09:34.08 | r_marvin | unix_infidel: there's a monster thread on debian-project |
| 09:34.16 | ricky_clarkson | 9 months, to my knowledge. |
| 09:34.35 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Something should be there. Plug & Play OS, or something like that. It might be a setting that offers "Windows" or "OS/2" or somesuch. |
| 09:34.42 | unix_infidel | r_marvin: URL? |
| 09:34.52 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : There also ought to be an option to 'Reset ESCD Data,' which you might want to trip at this point. |
| 09:34.59 | r_marvin | !tell unix_infidel about oftc move |
| 09:34.59 | pdbogen | unix_infidel : Do what the topic says and ask dpkg, mang. |
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| 09:35.27 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Neither exist. |
| 09:35.34 | pdbogen | Odd. |
| 09:35.47 | ricky_clarkson | It's a Toshiba Tecra A4 (laptop) if that helps. |
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| 09:35.54 | yassine | hi everyone |
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| 09:36.29 | yassine | i have a problem getting my x server up this is my xorg.conf http://bigleo.dyndns.org/xorg.conf.log and this is the error i gets http://bigleo.dyndns.org/xorg.log i would be thankfull for any suggestions |
| 09:36.49 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Try loading the kernel with the option "pci=noacpi" |
| 09:37.02 | pdbogen | And if that doesn't work, "acpi=off" |
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| 09:37.22 | wombachi | why does d-i wants to update partition tables on a raid device (/dev/md2) ? Is it a known d-i bug ? |
| 09:38.12 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: pci=noacpi seems to end with "Begin: Waiting for root file system... ..." |
| 09:38.26 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Is that more or less than what it got to before? |
| 09:38.50 | ricky_clarkson | It got there before then gave other messages not indicating progress, yes. |
| 09:39.05 | pdbogen | Hrm. Try with acpi=off and we'll go from there. |
| 09:39.14 | ricky_clarkson | acpi=off does the same so far. |
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| 09:39.42 | pdbogen | Also, these New York women are confusing to my small-town Texan eyes. From the back, she looked like a cute twenty-something. The jowls gave her away. :/ |
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| 09:40.10 | ricky_clarkson | Is jowl even a word in New York? ;) |
| 09:40.16 | pdbogen | ...Probably not. |
| 09:41.01 | ricky_clarkson | Any more suggestions? |
| 09:41.29 | pdbogen | My best suggestion would be to compile your own minimal 2.6 kernel with just what you need. |
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| 09:42.26 | pdbogen | But, I have some kind of wacky inherent mistrust of packaged kernels. |
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| 09:43.04 | BleSS | I would encrypt partitions with dmcrypt, does anybody knows any manual for debian? |
| 09:43.19 | streuner | How do you use another theme in irssi? |
| 09:43.24 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: If I revert fstab to /dev/hda stuff it will drop down to an administrative shell on boot, from where perhaps I can edit it again and mount from there. |
| 09:43.28 | Lamperi | /set theme theme.theme |
| 09:43.30 | pdbogen | BleSS : http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/dmcrypt/ |
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| 09:44.00 | Lamperi | your theme.theme should be in ~/.irssi/ |
| 09:44.06 | ricky_clarkson | Oh, it does drop down to a shell after a while anyway. |
| 09:44.07 | streuner | Lamperi: thanks. |
| 09:44.16 | pdbogen | Interesting. |
| 09:44.26 | pdbogen | When that happens, what does cat /proc/partitions give you? |
| 09:44.32 | ricky_clarkson | It does show sda stuff there. |
| 09:44.43 | pdbogen | Curiouser and curiouser. |
| 09:44.58 | BleSS | pdbogen, thanks |
| 09:45.07 | pdbogen | Hey, what's the root= option in your grub menu.lst for your 2.6 kernel? |
| 09:46.05 | ricky_clarkson | /dev/hda2 |
| 09:46.15 | pdbogen | Odd, the guy in the suit in front of me seems to have a police radio. Or a taxi radio. But the taxi radios have better quality, I think. |
| 09:46.23 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Ah ha. That should be /dev/sda2, for the 2.6 kernel. |
| 09:46.52 | ricky_clarkson | Progress. |
| 09:47.03 | ricky_clarkson | How do I set that permanently? |
| 09:47.15 | pdbogen | find the line like #kopt= and change it there, then do update-grub. |
| 09:47.25 | BleSS | does anybody has installed initng? is stable? |
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| 09:47.27 | pdbogen | But that'll change it for 2.4, too, so you'll need to move the 2.4 stanza out of the autoconfig area and re-set that. |
| 09:47.44 | ricky_clarkson | I don't mind doing it manually for 2.4. |
| 09:48.08 | ktwilight | i've a problem understanding a solution to my problem, anyone care to help? http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-java-maintainers/2005-December/006316.html <- it's right there 'bout dangling symlinks |
| 09:48.11 | ricky_clarkson | Ok, finally got a 2.6 kernel, now I need to remember why I wanted it. |
| 09:48.11 | pdbogen | the only wacky thing will be that every time you do update-grub, you'll have a 'real' 2.4 entry, the one you made, and a bogus one that's auto-generated, unless there's some magick that I don't know about to ignore it. |
| 09:48.24 | pdbogen | 'cause all the cool kids use 2.6. |
| 09:48.35 | ktwilight | it says to fix it by update-alternative --auto rmic, but i have no such command, and i sure don't know how to manually fix it. :/ |
| 09:48.45 | fly_80 | hi all: do you know how to convert a chm file into a printable one ? |
| 09:48.49 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Something to do with ipww2200 or something. |
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| 09:49.03 | pdbogen | ktwilight : update-alternatives (note s) as root. |
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| 09:49.11 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : ipw2200, I know it well. That's what my laptop uses. |
| 09:49.30 | pdbogen | It's well-supported. There's an in-kernel driver, but you're better off using a newer version. |
| 09:49.41 | pdbogen | http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ and http://ieee80211.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:49.46 | ricky_clarkson | Right. |
| 09:49.57 | EmleyMoor | I have a broken nullmailer - because, it seems, part of lsb-base is missing... when I do aptitude reinstall lsb-base I get couldn't lock list directory..are you root? I am root |
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| 09:50.14 | wedge | EmleyMoor: anything else running the apt? |
| 09:50.16 | pdbogen | EmleyMoor : Is apt-get running under something else, for some reason? |
| 09:50.21 | ktwilight | ahso... |
| 09:50.28 | ktwilight | thanks pdbogen |
| 09:50.28 | wedge | check if it didnt crash and then remove the lock files. |
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| 09:50.32 | EmleyMoor | pdbogen: Not to my knowledge but I will check |
| 09:50.49 | pdbogen | ktwilight : If you'd like to donate to help pay for today's New York Deli WiFi... ;) |
| 09:50.49 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Do you know of anything else I'll need with that, just to save me some reboots? |
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| 09:50.54 | EmleyMoor | wedge: OK - where are the lock files? |
| 09:51.02 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : The firmware, but you shouldn't need to reboot from here on out. |
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| 09:51.07 | pdbogen | And the wireless-tools, of course. |
| 09:51.11 | ricky_clarkson | I do, to download the firmwrare. |
| 09:51.16 | pdbogen | Ahh. |
| 09:51.18 | ktwilight | sorry pdbogen, all my funds are directed to my newfound company :P |
| 09:51.34 | pdbogen | Then y eah, wireless-tools, firmware, ipw2200, ieee80211, and maybe wpa_supplicant if you need it. |
| 09:51.58 | ricky_clarkson | Are they all on ipw2200.sf.net ? |
| 09:52.01 | ktwilight | k, now one less problem. :/ |
| 09:52.02 | pdbogen | ktwilight : Ah, well. Worth a shot. :) |
| 09:52.08 | ktwilight | haha, always is :) |
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| 09:52.46 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : ipw2200 and firmware is. Wireless tools from Debian are fine, ieee80211 is from ieee80211.sf.net, and wpa_supplicant from Debian should be okay, too, but it's easy enough to compile if you're so inclined. It comes from here: http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/ |
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| 09:53.14 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: From Debian sarge ISO 1, wireless tools and wpa_supplicant? |
| 09:53.16 | johnnyss | There is a command to edit the version number when one builds an debian package it opens an editor to do this but what is the command I have forogot it, |
| 09:53.43 | brownie17 | can someone tell me where the wastebasket is actually stored on the drive? |
| 09:53.49 | pdbogen | Hrm. You might need newer than what's on a sarge ISO. Is your AP using WPA? (As opposed to WEP, or no encryption). If not, you don't need wpa_supplicant. |
| 09:53.54 | ktwilight | should be ~/.wastebasket ? |
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| 09:54.09 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: I have multiple APs. |
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| 09:54.34 | ktwilight | ugh, wireless, completely distest the fact that i can't get my wpa-psk working seamlessly. |
| 09:54.39 | ricky_clarkson | I don't know, maybe I'll just get it anyway and see what happens. |
| 09:54.59 | ricky_clarkson | Ok, PersonNextDoor, this was not a great time to turn your wireless off. |
| 09:55.01 | pdbogen | wpa_supplicant is a little bit difficult to configure sometimes. But just having it on your system won't muck with anything if you're not using it. |
| 09:55.30 | pdbogen | *Except*: wpa_supplicant with ipw2200 does a bit of a weird thing, where if you let wpa_supplicant grab your card, you can't use non-WPA without reloading the driver (or, at best, doing a firmware reset) |
| 09:55.32 | EmleyMoor | How do I find the lock for the list directory? |
| 09:55.58 | EmleyMoor | pdbogen: FWIW I have perfect wpa_supplicant, with ipw2100 |
| 09:56.02 | ricky_clarkson | Ok, so maybe I should try without wpa_supplicant. |
| 09:56.04 | pdbogen | That's more of a for future reference thing, though. I think that should be fixed in ipw2200, pretty soon. |
| 09:56.14 | yang | on etch there is no nvidia package called "nvidia-glx" how can nvidia modules get compiled? |
| 09:56.17 | pdbogen | EmleyMoor ; Yeah, I use it on my laptop, with only the caveat I just mentioned. Works great, otherwise. |
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| 09:57.20 | pdbogen | AFK for a second, I'm going to purchase a bottle of water. |
| 09:57.35 | bliss_ | hi |
| 09:57.44 | bliss_ | anyone here use FUSE |
| 09:57.47 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: FYI there is a #ipw2100 |
| 09:57.52 | EmleyMoor | bliss_: Which one? |
| 09:58.00 | blaheva | anyone here running boinc on deb/sparc? |
| 09:58.09 | EmleyMoor | Can someone please help me smash the lock on the list directory? |
| 09:58.28 | bliss_ | SORRYI MEAN EncFS |
| 09:58.28 | nunu | hi, can anyone tell me, how to make my licq transparent ? I looked at this HOWTO ( http://www.licq.org/SKINS.HOWTO ) but I don't know how how to make the mask.bmp completly white... is it possible with gimp ? oO |
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| 09:59.31 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : There's also a pretty helpful mailing list. |
| 09:59.49 | ricky_clarkson | Yeah, I'll try following the instructions first though. ;) |
| 10:00.00 | pdbogen | EmleyMoor : Try googling for your error message? |
| 10:00.06 | pdbogen | EmleyMoor : And/or, does it give you a path to the lock file? |
| 10:00.28 | pdbogen | hey, anybody want to buy me an extra battery for my laptop? :D |
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| 10:00.45 | EmleyMoor | I actually get the following three messages in order: |
| 10:00.56 | EmleyMoor | Writing extended state information... Error! |
| 10:00.59 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Do they come charged fully? |
| 10:01.00 | pdbogen | You might want to paste it in #flood. |
| 10:01.04 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : No. :/ |
| 10:01.05 | ktwilight | yang, you need to get it from backports.org |
| 10:01.14 | EmleyMoor | E: I wasn't able to locate file for the nullmailer package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. |
| 10:01.26 | EmleyMoor | E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root? |
| 10:01.28 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Get a wind-up, they're all the rage in 3rd world places, like TX ;) |
| 10:01.39 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Barring that, a generator that can produce power from impatience and anger would work well. I am in New York, after all. |
| 10:01.39 | rohan | [Bart]: ping |
| 10:01.42 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : That'd kick ass, actually. |
| 10:02.14 | pdbogen | And for the record, Texas is at least 2nd world. We've got, like, indoor plumbing, now. |
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| 10:02.23 | ricky_clarkson | Except with decent hardware, winding it up would probably need a team of Chinese people taking turns. |
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| 10:02.43 | pdbogen | And we gon' get that 'lectricity, soon, once they git done puttin' in them funny brown trees. |
| 10:03.04 | ricky_clarkson | All the working class here call it 'electric'. |
| 10:03.16 | brownie17 | i am but two and a half short years from having chest hands! |
| 10:03.16 | ricky_clarkson | The electric. |
| 10:03.22 | pdbogen | Heh. |
| 10:03.31 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: What? |
| 10:03.31 | pdbogen | brownie17 : That's a very strange statement. |
| 10:03.42 | pdbogen | brownie17 : Is that some kind of euphemism? Did you just proposition me? |
| 10:03.43 | brownie17 | pdbogen, with that, i can agree |
| 10:03.58 | brownie17 | pdbogen, of i agree with the first one!, not the second! |
| 10:03.59 | pdbogen | brownie17 : 'cause if so... I can tell you the address I'm at right now. |
| 10:04.06 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, you heard me boy, chest hands! |
| 10:04.13 | brownie17 | pdbogen, lol, maybe not |
| 10:04.18 | EmleyMoor | Google hasn't given me a high hit :-( |
| 10:04.46 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, i don't think you're quite getting the point here! |
| 10:04.51 | yang | ktwilight: but backports are sarge only? |
| 10:04.51 | pdbogen | EmleyMoor : http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Apt-get#Trouble-shooting_with_RPM-based_distributions |
| 10:04.54 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, it was a quote from "Scrubs" |
| 10:04.58 | pdbogen | I think that applies, despite being for apt-RPM. |
| 10:05.01 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: Is that TV? |
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| 10:05.09 | pdbogen | Maybe change 'rpm' to 'dpkg' or somesuch. |
| 10:05.25 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : I believe it is one of those "comedies". |
| 10:05.31 | ricky_clarkson | I don't watch TV, I'm too busy trying to make Debian work on my machine. |
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| 10:05.41 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : I done heard 'bout that talkin' picture box, but we ain't got one in my neighborhood yet. |
| 10:05.41 | brownie17 | http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/surgery#Getting_chest_Hands |
| 10:05.45 | EmleyMoor | pdbogen: I have already broken the only one on that |
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| 10:06.14 | ktwilight | yang, i dunno 'bout that. but...it worked for me. |
| 10:06.16 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, it certainly is TV, some quality tv, which i happen to have three seasons of ripped onto my second hard drive! |
| 10:06.21 | ktwilight | depends on which kernel you have i guess. |
| 10:06.37 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: TV is for when I have nothing, literally nothing, going on in my life. |
| 10:06.51 | ricky_clarkson | I'll probably watch a lot of it when I'm old. |
| 10:07.06 | ktwilight | haha |
| 10:07.07 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, lol, fair enough. being but a teenager, television IS my life. score! |
| 10:07.11 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Ow, that was my last one. |
| 10:07.21 | EmleyMoor | Not found anything helpful |
| 10:07.22 | brownie17 | pdbogen, hillbillie! |
| 10:07.37 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: You should be at least on WoW, Counterstrike, or smoking pot somewhere. |
| 10:07.42 | ktwilight | tv is something ya can always go back to. but pc and the life with a pc...it's way different :D |
| 10:07.50 | pdbogen | brownie17 : ...Well, the first thing I did when I got off the airplane was fish my knife and my lighter out of my bag and put them in their proper pockets. :/ |
| 10:08.08 | ricky_clarkson | My teenage years were dominated by Amiga games. |
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| 10:08.51 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: I can make quite a sharp edge from a coke can. |
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| 10:09.16 | pdbogen | EmleyMoor : How about doing: updatedb && locate lock ? |
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| 10:09.29 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Yes, there's nothing for it but to go to work. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this. |
| 10:09.31 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : I read about how to make fire with a coke can and a hershey bar. |
| 10:10.30 | pdbogen | Laptop only has about a half-hour charge, left. At which point, I'll have to switch to my PDA. |
| 10:10.42 | ricky_clarkson | Let's just be thankful that the terrrrists are mainly blowing people up in non-Western lands, and not being here looking at Wikipedia for ways of blowing things up. |
| 10:11.03 | pdbogen | Heh, I learned how to make nitroglycerine in high school chemistry. |
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| 10:11.19 | pdbogen | 'course, you can learn that from watching Fight Club. |
| 10:11.28 | pdbogen | But they miss the part about making it in an ice bath or else it explodes. |
| 10:12.04 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, smoking pot as a hobby is one of the stupidest crutches i have ever seen happen. i have no objection to the thing itself, but in my town it's almost a culture to do it every day with some people, and it sickens me to watch them throw so much away. i'd rather have a friend commit suicide than smoke a cones every morning |
| 10:12.30 | pdbogen | brownie17 : I lived with a guy who smoked several times a day, every day. |
| 10:12.36 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: I smell it on the buses I use, sometimes even as early as 7am. |
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| 10:12.58 | ricky_clarkson | I've never smoked tobacco, nevermind cannabliss[sic]. |
| 10:13.34 | pdbogen | It gives me a headache after a while. At first, it's sort of like a headache that doesn't hurt. A pulsing in the head, if you will. |
| 10:13.45 | EmleyMoor | Removed all seemingly relevant locks and still failing the same way! |
| 10:13.48 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, 7am? that's sad. you've never smoked tobacco? that's something you should look into, could become a debilitating mental condition |
| 10:14.01 | ricky_clarkson | I get my kicks from sex, dancing and alcohol. |
| 10:14.08 | pdbogen | Mmmm, sex and alcohol. |
| 10:14.17 | brownie17 | pdbogen, lol, nitroglycerine gives you a headache? lol |
| 10:14.18 | pdbogen | If only they were cold. :/ |
| 10:14.25 | pdbogen | brownie17 : Cannibis sativa. |
| 10:14.29 | blondie | eww beer |
| 10:14.40 | pdbogen | It's good beer, though. New Belgium 1554. |
| 10:14.41 | ricky_clarkson | Nitroglycerine is nothing compared to a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster. |
| 10:14.49 | blondie | why do people like it, when it's so unbelievably vile |
| 10:14.55 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Bah, that's just like a lemon twist. |
| 10:15.01 | pdbogen | (Wrapped around a solid gold brick) |
| 10:15.01 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, what happened to don't watch tv? or are you a reader? |
| 10:15.17 | pdbogen | brownie17 : Maybe he likes the radio show. |
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| 10:15.23 | brownie17 | blondie, you kidding? it;s an acquired taste, granted, but it's wonderful stuff when you get used to it |
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| 10:15.34 | brownie17 | pdbogen, could be that too, if he's like 50 |
| 10:15.44 | pdbogen | I didn't like beer the first time I tried it. |
| 10:15.52 | brownie17 | pdbogen, who did? you like it now? |
| 10:15.52 | blondie | brownie17: no I'm not kidding, and I don't see how you could get used to it ;) |
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| 10:15.53 | pdbogen | Of course, the first time I tried it it was Keystone Light. |
| 10:16.11 | pdbogen | brownie17 : Did you miss the part where one of the essential things I brought with me to new york was beer? :D |
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| 10:16.36 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: I've never seen H2G2 on Tv. |
| 10:16.38 | pdbogen | blondie : It's just like anything else. Head, Linux, cabbage... |
| 10:16.41 | brownie17 | pdbogen, good job. i live in australia, the country of beer drinkers |
| 10:16.54 | blondie | pdbogen: denied |
| 10:17.21 | pdbogen | brownie17 : We drink a lot of beer in Texas, but most of it's pretty weak stuff. I'm still working my way up the things that come in a corked liter bottle. ;) |
| 10:17.28 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: I expect that Brits drink more. |
| 10:17.49 | ricky_clarkson | blondie: Female? |
| 10:17.54 | EmleyMoor | We do - continental-style lager and our own real ale |
| 10:17.57 | blondie | denied |
| 10:18.07 | ricky_clarkson | I never met a man who didn't like beer. |
| 10:18.07 | pdbogen | blondie : Comic strip? |
| 10:18.08 | yang | Becouse there is no nvidia-glx in etch can nvidia-glx-legacy be used for Xorg? |
| 10:18.09 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, but the stereo-type aussie is that of someone with a blue in a fold out chair with a VB and a dog next to him |
| 10:18.28 | blondie | pdbogen: what? |
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| 10:18.38 | pdbogen | brownie17 : Heh, that's pretty close to the same stereotypical Texan, after you toss-in the shotgun and the chewing tobacco. |
| 10:18.39 | ricky_clarkson | brownie17: So pretty much like a Texan then, but the brand differs. |
| 10:18.42 | blondie | brownie17: blue isn't a noun |
| 10:18.44 | brownie17 | blondie, you're a man? and you don't like beer? are you like... an indian or something? |
| 10:18.52 | blondie | no, I'm gay |
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| 10:19.05 | ricky_clarkson | Ah, that explains it, of course. |
| 10:19.06 | brownie17 | blondie, apologies, i meant "Bluey" |
| 10:19.21 | blondie | EmleyMoor: weird :P |
| 10:19.40 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Ever had their pineapple rum? |
| 10:19.48 | ricky_clarkson | No. |
| 10:19.51 | pdbogen | It's not bad. |
| 10:19.57 | ricky_clarkson | I like it but it's expensive, so I usually drink beer. |
| 10:20.01 | EmleyMoor | ricky_clarkson: Not related to Jeremy are you? |
| 10:20.12 | ricky_clarkson | EmleyMoor: No, but Kelly is my grandmother. |
| 10:20.26 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Kelly is my oldest acquaintance. |
| 10:20.27 | blondie | ricky_clarkson: so we don't have to kill you then ;P |
| 10:20.33 | pdbogen | I don't think she likes me very much, though. |
| 10:20.38 | blondie | (no idea who kelly is) |
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| 10:21.02 | pdbogen | Oh noes, the orange battery light of death is flashing. |
| 10:21.17 | blondie | your time is nearly up |
| 10:21.18 | pdbogen | I wish I had one of those transmeta crusoe laptops. |
| 10:21.29 | pdbogen | blondie : 'sok, my PDA should have about two to three hours left in it. |
| 10:21.29 | ricky_clarkson | Get a nuclear-powered laptop. |
| 10:21.31 | EmleyMoor | I'm still having huge trouble getting lsb-base reinstalled |
| 10:21.40 | pdbogen | EmleyMoor : Can you try installing it directly with dpkg? |
| 10:22.02 | pdbogen | dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/lsb-base-*.deb ? |
| 10:22.26 | ricky_clarkson | Woo, NextDoorsWireless came on. |
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| 10:23.38 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, they got fast internet? |
| 10:24.11 | ricky_clarkson | Fast enough. |
| 10:24.41 | ricky_clarkson | I also have broadband, but it's USB, which is probably even harder to set up than wireless. |
| 10:24.55 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, no one in here seems to actaully be talking about debian problems |
| 10:25.02 | blondie | ricky_clarkson: denied |
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| 10:25.11 | brownie17 | ricky_clarkson, the broadband is USB? what do you mean by that? |
| 10:25.12 | ricky_clarkson | I will be soon, don't worry. |
| 10:25.17 | blondie | my USB ADSL modem works just fine on linux |
| 10:25.27 | ricky_clarkson | blondie: I've not looked into it yet. |
| 10:25.34 | brownie17 | blondie, you have to download drivers? |
| 10:25.43 | ricky_clarkson | I have wireless access in more places than broadband, so I thought I'd look at wireless first. |
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| 10:25.47 | szaszka | Hi! |
| 10:25.53 | blondie | brownie17: you have to download one file iirc |
| 10:26.49 | EmleyMoor | Sorted |
| 10:27.03 | brownie17 | blondie, i use an ethernet broadband modem, plugged it in, it worked fine and dandy |
| 10:27.21 | blondie | brownie17: my experience of those is less good |
| 10:27.26 | blondie | they work most of the time |
| 10:27.40 | blondie | but they tend to crash quite often |
| 10:27.40 | ricky_clarkson | Ah, wow. |
| 10:28.05 | EmleyMoor | I have a telco-supported router on my broadband |
| 10:28.09 | szaszka | The openssh client is capable to send a heartbeat packet? Because of a router my connection regularly times out. |
| 10:28.12 | ricky_clarkson | "kernel versions 2.6.14 and later are providing *old* ieee80211 and ipw2200 1.0 drivers as part of the mainline tree" |
| 10:28.24 | ricky_clarkson | So I probably don't even need to do anything, given that I have 2.6.16. |
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| 10:29.37 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : Yeah, 2.6.14 and beyond have ipw2200 1.0.0, or 1.1.0, or something. Old, "stable". |
| 10:30.07 | fwest | ricky_clarkson: you need to download the firmware manually |
| 10:30.11 | brownie17 | blondie, my modem was a peice of shit from the start, so the crashes aren't it's fault, they're firmware problems, but apart from them i've never had linux compat problems |
| 10:30.22 | ricky_clarkson | Ah. |
| 10:30.39 | ricky_clarkson | I just downloaded the newest version of the firmware, which will probably not be compatible with the old ip2ww00. |
| 10:30.43 | fwest | ricky_clarkson: its not packaged as far as i could find |
| 10:31.01 | fwest | ricky_clarkson: wrong version 3 is not what you want for kernel 2.6.16 |
| 10:31.05 | fwest | you want version 2.4 |
| 10:31.06 | ricky_clarkson | Hmm, w and 2 are too close together. ;) |
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| 10:31.26 | visik_ | hi |
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| 10:31.40 | visik_ | will woody go to unsupported on 6 june ? |
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| 10:32.37 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Hmm, grub still goes to /dev/hda |
| 10:32.39 | ricky_clarkson | moo |
| 10:33.33 | pdbogen | ricky_clarkson : You changed kopt and did update-grub ? |
| 10:33.45 | ricky_clarkson | I changed menu.lst and did update-grub. |
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| 10:34.27 | brownie17 | does anyone know a one liner that will restore grub? |
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| 10:34.37 | Meltir | does the sarge installer have fips integrated somehow ? or some other tool to resize fat/ntfs partitions ? |
| 10:34.42 | brownie17 | someone tell me where the grub.conf is again, i forgot |
| 10:34.59 | visik_ | brownie17: there isn't |
| 10:35.04 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: What do you mean by kopt, just the options in menu.lst? |
| 10:35.05 | EmleyMoor | Meltir: Not that I know |
| 10:35.08 | visik_ | brownie17: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 10:35.23 | brownie17 | visik_, well a few liner? the shortest way |
| 10:35.25 | EmleyMoor | There are cd-based distributions that can deal with it |
| 10:35.29 | Meltir | well then. i suppose ill just have to get ridd of windows :) |
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| 10:35.33 | Meltir | EmleyMoor: thx |
| 10:35.40 | EmleyMoor | (prior to installing Debian) |
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| 10:36.37 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Ah, I see, /boot/grub/menu.lst is written by update-grub. |
| 10:38.13 | ricky_clarkson | Ok, I'm quite confused by a paragraph from update-grub(8). |
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| 10:38.33 | ricky_clarkson | "After update-grub has been run for the first time, the user is required to edit the generated menu.lst". Ok so far. |
| 10:38.48 | ricky_clarkson | "The user must set the two options update-grub uses." Which are? |
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| 10:39.09 | ricky_clarkson | "Then re-run the update-grub script to update the menu.lst file using the default's[sic] that have been set." |
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| 10:42.23 | Mammut | hi |
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| 10:42.51 | Mammut | whats the german room for the freenode debian channel? |
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| 10:43.13 | pipeline | !de |
| 10:43.13 | dpkg | i heard de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net - German speaking users please go to #debian.de either here on freenode or on irc.oftc.net |
| 10:43.38 | Mammut | pipeline, ? de? denian_de??? |
| 10:43.52 | ricky_clarkson | Mammut: Read the stuff that dpkg said. |
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| 10:44.16 | Mammut | ricky_clarkson, hehe, THX, |
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| 10:44.33 | ricky_clarkson | PLZ! |
| 10:44.43 | ricky_clarkson | !plz |
| 10:44.43 | dpkg | i guess plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 10:44.47 | Mammut | dpkg, you are a great bot |
| 10:44.47 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, Mammut |
| 10:45.30 | EmleyMoor | dpkg: start a holy war |
| 10:45.31 | dpkg | edit.exe is the worst editor ever |
| 10:45.37 | ricky_clarkson | !you are a great bot is <reply>(But do NOT try reading my source code.|*blush*|you have a great bot too!) |
| 10:45.38 | dpkg | ricky_clarkson: what are you talking about? |
| 10:45.44 | ricky_clarkson | dpkg: I don't know! |
| 10:45.58 | Mammut | lol |
| 10:46.13 | ricky_clarkson | start a natural disaster war |
| 10:46.20 | ricky_clarkson | !start a natural disaster war |
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| 10:47.06 | ricky_clarkson | !start a natural catastrophe war |
| 10:47.07 | dpkg | earthquakes suck |
| 10:47.15 | ricky_clarkson | That was worth it. |
| 10:47.37 | Mammut | ok, i think the #debian is much cooler than the german ... |
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| 10:48.07 | Mammut | What is iowait? i Have it very much on my prozesslist |
| 10:48.11 | brownie17 | !die |
| 10:48.11 | dpkg | I'll murder you brownie17! Decapitate you and play snooker with your eyes! |
| 10:48.12 | brownie17 | !end |
| 10:48.16 | brownie17 | !close |
| 10:48.17 | dpkg | methinks close is try /close |
| 10:48.18 | brownie17 | !loser |
| 10:48.18 | dpkg | loser is, like, John * |
| 10:48.22 | beef | Can anyone recommend a Debian program that will allow me to send mail via my ISP's SMTP server on the command line? |
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| 10:48.38 | beef | I've tried going through exim, but my ISP blocks me ;( |
| 10:49.02 | r_marvin | set the isp's server as a relay host |
| 10:49.25 | r_marvin | or whatever it's called in eximspeak |
| 10:49.39 | szaszka | bye |
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| 10:51.18 | beef | r_marvin, my exim was attempting to relay via the ISP (actually, it's not my ISP, but another to which I can authenticate myself). But the ISP rejected me, saying "reserved domains blocked". |
| 10:51.24 | grap | hi there |
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| 10:51.54 | grap | hi¿ |
| 10:51.59 | grap | is there someone? |
| 10:52.26 | wombachi | beef: some ISP force to use their smtp server. Perhaps it's your case? |
| 10:52.29 | beef | grap, yes. There is. |
| 10:52.30 | grap | i need help on upgrading my etch to sid! is it enough to change it in sources.list or will I get more problems? |
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| 10:53.42 | pdbogen | Hey. |
| 10:53.58 | datrus | hello. can anyone please tell me how to search for packages from the command line instead of using packages.debian.org search. |
| 10:54.10 | beef | wombachi, nope. I use the same server (successfully) from Thunderbird. |
| 10:54.11 | wombachi | datrus apt-cache search bla |
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| 10:55.29 | datrus | ok thanks |
| 10:55.51 | beef | exim4 log is suggesting that my exim is identifying itself as localhost.localdomain |
| 10:55.56 | beef | Maybe that's not good. |
| 10:55.58 | wombachi | datrus apt-cache policy <package> if you use multiple repositories (stable/testing) at the same time |
| 10:56.39 | wombachi | beef: use better names. Perhaps something like host.domain.lan |
| 10:57.19 | wombachi | beef: but mails from user@domain.lan are often blocked by ISPs as .lan is not a valid tld |
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| 10:57.50 | wombachi | which is solved by aliases (user@host.lan to user@host.com by ex) |
| 10:58.09 | beef | wombachi, which sucks all kinds of things. Is there a command-line app I can use which will emulate what my Thunderbird does to successfully send mail? |
| 10:58.42 | beef | wombachi, note that I don't care about recieving mail. I only want to send. |
| 10:58.52 | pdbogen | Bah. Weak signal. |
| 10:59.03 | r_marvin | i'm looking for an app that can connect to a serial line with specified parameters (speed and such) and dump everything to a file |
| 10:59.08 | beef | wombachi, and no, I don't intend to spam :-) This is for software diagnostics |
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| 10:59.18 | r_marvin | i thought socat might do it, but apparently, no |
| 10:59.21 | ricky_clarkson | pdbogen: Bugger. You might have to find another cafe. |
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| 10:59.53 | pdbogen | The cafe. |
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| 11:00.11 | pdbogen | Er. |
| 11:00.16 | beef | r_marvin: stty + cat |
| 11:00.36 | r_marvin | oh, right |
| 11:00.43 | r_marvin | i'm stupid, sorry |
| 11:00.45 | r_marvin | :) |
| 11:00.47 | wombachi | beef: too much spam => Setting a SMTP server is not obvious |
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| 11:01.01 | wombachi | these days |
| 11:01.08 | superlinux | with respect to the kernel compile .. whenever I do make menuconfig I get at the last line of output : /usr/include/bits/socket.h:305:24: asm/socket.h: No such file or directory |
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| 11:01.26 | wombachi | superlinux you need to install kernel headers |
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| 11:01.29 | pdbogen | I am at Grand Central on my PDA. :| |
| 11:01.30 | SkrotFFS | Hi. What might be wrong when xvinfo says "no adapter present"? Using ATI drivers |
| 11:01.44 | superlinux | well I have kernel headers installed |
| 11:02.05 | pdbogen | Graffitti is slow. |
| 11:02.10 | wombachi | superlinux perhaps not all headers |
| 11:02.11 | beef | wombachi, I would have though spam had nothing to do with SMTP. I would have thought spam would be sent direct from a host. |
| 11:02.22 | quitte | superlinux: you dont need kernel headers to compile a kernel. try installing libncurses5-dev |
| 11:03.00 | quitte | beef: to prevent that have a look at greylist |
| 11:03.02 | superlinux | quitte, it's installed |
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| 11:03.23 | wombachi | beef, yes, to port 25 on a (smtp) server. This is why so many ISPs simply block port 25 (except for their own srv) |
| 11:03.23 | quitte | superlinux: build-essential? |
| 11:03.51 | pdbogen | I would adore some free electricity right now. |
| 11:03.52 | superlinux | I am now installing it |
| 11:03.56 | beef | wombachi, what about authenticated users? Of which I am one. |
| 11:04.10 | beef | wombachi, authenticated for relay, that is. |
| 11:04.27 | superlinux | quitte, I wanted to download an already made kernel in the backports but it wanted me to remove grub.. |
| 11:04.34 | wombachi | beef: change the hostname/domain on your box, relay should work easyli |
| 11:04.41 | superlinux | and it will install lilo |
| 11:04.47 | superlinux | but I want grub |
| 11:04.50 | dmand | exit |
| 11:04.55 | superlinux | I think that's bad |
| 11:04.56 | wombachi | beef: if you configure your smtp to use the isp's srv as relay |
| 11:05.20 | quitte | superlinux: if you use a lot of backports you might as well just use etch imho |
| 11:05.24 | wombachi | beef: then you'll have plenty of cli to send mails |
| 11:05.30 | pdbogen | Mmm. Beautiful New York women. |
| 11:05.36 | superlinux | ok |
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| 11:05.53 | superlinux | quitte, check the #flood or the errors I have |
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| 11:06.46 | wombachi | is grub so stupid that it can't handle /boot and/or / on md devices? ("unknown partition type 0xde") I can't beleive it :-/ |
| 11:07.01 | beef | wombachi, relay, as opposed to smarthost? |
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| 11:07.25 | wombachi | beef: I think the are equiv terms in exim doc (but I use postfix) |
| 11:07.46 | pdbogen | This grows tiresome. G'morning, folks. |
| 11:07.50 | _zeus_ | s.a |
| 11:09.20 | _zeus_ | plesk v7.5 for linux licanse key pls |
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| 11:10.11 | lol | * A conversar em #debian |
| 11:10.11 | lol | * Tópico para #debian é: irc.debian.org moves to OFTC June 4th /msg dpkg oftc move | STATUS: http://wiki.debian.org/Status | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | THIS IS NOT #ubuntu | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java |
| 11:10.14 | lol | * Tópico para #debian colocado por dondelelcaro em Thu May 25 01:03:51 2006 |
| 11:10.16 | lol | -ChanServ- [#debian] Welcome to #Debian. This is a discussion channel; if you have a question about Debian GNU/Linux, ask and we will try our best to answer it. Newcomers should read the channel's guidelines by typing "/msg dpkg guidelines". Please do not paste in the channel; use #flood instead. Thank you. |
| 11:10.26 | lol | * #debian :[freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg |
| 11:10.33 | lol | superlinux quitte, check the #flood or the errors I have |
| 11:10.35 | lol | * herodot (n=kvirc@CPE-58-168-91-158.nsw.bigpond.net.au) entrou em #debian |
| 11:10.37 | lol | * herodot (n=kvirc@CPE-58-168-91-158.nsw.bigpond.net.au) saiu de #debian ("So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!") |
| 11:10.38 | Phated | lol: Stop pasting. |
| 11:10.40 | lol | wombachi is grub so stupid that it can't handle /boot and/or / on md devices? ("unknown partition type 0xde") I can't beleive it :-/ |
| 11:10.43 | lol | beef wombachi, relay, as opposed to smarthost? |
| 11:10.45 | lol | * skon (n=gav@c220-237-18-72.rivrw4.nsw.optusnet.com.au) saiu de #debian |
| 11:10.47 | lol | * _zeus_ (n=qEjDnOqK@88.255.0.230) entrou em #debian |
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| 11:10.49 | lol | wombachi beef: I think the are equiv terms in exim doc (but I use postfix) |
| 11:10.53 | lol | pdbogen This grows tiresome. G'morning, folks. |
| 11:10.55 | lol | _zeus_ s.a |
| 11:10.57 | lol | * wombachi thinks he'll avoid grub and use lilo for years |
| 11:10.58 | juanma | lol, ?¿ |
| 11:10.59 | lol | _zeus_ plesk v7.5 for linux licanse key pls |
| 11:11.03 | lol | * root_ (n=root@boi78-2-82-227-231-132.fbx.proxad.net) entrou em #debian |
| 11:11.05 | lol | * root_ desligou (Client Quit) |
| 11:11.06 | wombachi | plz someone killl lol |
| 11:11.12 | Phated | !ops lol pasting |
| 11:11.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew: phated complains about: lol pasting |
| 11:11.21 | lol | :P Stop pasting |
| 11:11.30 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 11:11.31 | juanma | lol, are you stupid? |
| 11:11.31 | lol | Phated: Stop pasting |
| 11:11.41 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@84.91.30.175] by mentor |
| 11:11.41 | *** kick/#debian [lol!n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor] by mentor (mentor) |
| 11:11.45 | *** mode/#debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 11:11.47 | quitte | superlinux: did you get the apt-get install build-essential part? |
| 11:11.49 | Phated | Cheers, mentor. |
| 11:11.50 | mentor | ... |
| 11:12.02 | superlinux | quitte, yes I did |
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| 11:12.05 | mentor | that's poor trolling. |
| 11:12.07 | superlinux | nothing changed |
| 11:12.09 | quitte | mentor: thanks. ban him from #flood,too if you can |
| 11:12.36 | quitte | superlinux: installing libc6-dev? |
| 11:12.42 | superlinux | yes |
| 11:12.51 | superlinux | installed already |
| 11:13.12 | quitte | superlinux: then your system is fucked somehow. the missing files are part of that package |
| 11:13.21 | _zeus_ | superlinux plesk 7.5 for linux licanse key |
| 11:13.21 | superlinux | ok |
| 11:13.48 | superlinux | I'l reinstall |
| 11:13.52 | superlinux | the libc |
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| 11:19.48 | twb | I am a dirty, dirty person: I want to add an .info file to /usr/share/info/dir. What's the command to update the dir file? |
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| 11:21.21 | twb | Ah, install-info(8). Bye! |
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| 11:22.59 | sussudio | root! |
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| 11:23.45 | dimir | ye, on some channels you get banned for that. |
| 11:24.18 | dimir | apt-abhi: You shouldn't irc as rewt! |
| 11:24.27 | dimir | Or else! |
| 11:24.40 | dimir | Me and sussudio h4x0r j00! |
| 11:24.52 | dimir | ph33r! |
| 11:24.56 | juanma | Chuck Norris connects to the irc as root |
| 11:25.01 | Maulkin | !root |
| 11:25.02 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 11:25.35 | mesut_ | hi all |
| 11:25.56 | mesut_ | how can i read linuzgazzette package on debian |
| 11:26.14 | dimir | juanma: lol that's for sure! |
| 11:26.39 | juanma | apt-abhi, are you chuck norris= |
| 11:26.40 | juanma | ? |
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| 11:27.11 | dimir | mesut_: read what? |
| 11:27.21 | lanchow | see /usr/share/ ? |
| 11:27.27 | mesut_ | i installed linuxgazzette |
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| 11:27.32 | mesut_ | how can i use it |
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| 11:27.40 | lanchow | mesut_: look in /usr/share |
| 11:27.48 | lanchow | it is html if i remember |
| 11:27.48 | mesut_ | ok |
| 11:28.53 | S2AnGeL | I am a bit freaked out, yesterday I ssh in with my account to my debian box and it lets me in but tells me I do not have access to my home dir... now i can not ftp into it either ugh! help! |
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| 11:29.38 | lanchow | mesut_: what's the name of the package, i forgot |
| 11:29.56 | mesut_ | lanchow : a sec pls |
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| 11:31.16 | S2AnGeL | I have root still So I do a suuser |
| 11:31.16 | S2AnGeL | bash: /home/joe/.bashrc: Permission denied !! Ugh is there something I can do I changed all the permisions.. I own the home dir I gave the dir and all the files everything for permissions.. nothing will not let me access nothing.. |
| 11:31.33 | S2AnGeL | othere then in root has anyone had this happen to them? |
| 11:32.00 | *** join/#debian DB7654321 (n=DB765432@71.114.167.3) |
| 11:32.00 | Maulkin | S2AnGeL: What's the exact permissions on the directory? |
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| 11:32.09 | Maulkin | S2AnGeL: and ownershiop |
| 11:32.15 | S2AnGeL | I tryed to look back , only thing I did was install dvdrecord |
| 11:32.16 | Maulkin | And also of /home |
| 11:32.36 | dimir | !nickometer DB7654321 |
| 11:32.38 | dpkg | 'DB7654321' is 78.000% lame, dimir |
| 11:32.44 | S2AnGeL | drwxrwxrwx 7 joe joe 4.0K 2006-06-02 01:38 user |
| 11:32.47 | dimir | what kind of bot is that? |
| 11:32.55 | dimir | OMG! |
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| 11:33.01 | Eclipser | dpkg, what are you |
| 11:33.02 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 11:33.20 | phogg | only the bestest bloatedest bot evar! |
| 11:33.31 | dimir | Eclipser: I was referring to 'DB7654321' |
| 11:33.35 | mesut_ | lanchow : an example = lg-issue29 |
| 11:33.36 | S2AnGeL | drwxrwxrwx 7 joe joe 4.0K 2006-06-02 01:38 joe (so much for hiding the user name.. lol.. its joe the user name is joe |
| 11:33.39 | Eclipser | aha |
| 11:33.42 | Maulkin | phogg: It's not bloated! (ok... I lie) |
| 11:33.53 | lanchow | mesut_: you found how to read ? |
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| 11:34.19 | mesut_ | lanchow : not yet |
| 11:34.24 | Maulkin | S2AnGeL: And of /home and /home/joe/.bashrc please |
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| 11:35.48 | mesut_ | lanchow : do you know? how can i read that package |
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| 11:35.54 | S2AnGeL | Maulkin:drwxrwS--- 6 root staff 4.0K 2006-06-01 09:53 home |
| 11:35.54 | S2AnGeL | -rwxrwxrwx 1 joe joe 1.3K 2005-12-29 13:06 .bashrc |
| 11:35.55 | S2AnGeL | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.15 | lanchow | mesut_: i did, i try to apt it |
| 11:36.26 | Maulkin | S2AnGeL: /home is your problem |
| 11:36.55 | Maulkin | S2AnGeL: IT shoudl be at least a+x |
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| 11:37.53 | S2AnGeL | frig i wonder how that happened.. so what would it be normal.. whats your set to.. |
| 11:38.11 | Maulkin | drwxrwsr-x root staff |
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| 11:39.13 | lanchow | mesut_: it's something like firefox /usr/share/doc/lg/issue29/index.html |
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| 11:41.16 | S2AnGeL | nice that did it |
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| 11:42.27 | Maulkin | S2AnGeL: Now, don't go changing permissions again :) |
| 11:42.30 | nukeu666 | ive installed cygwin on my windoze machine...how do i open graphical apps on my debian machine on my comp? |
| 11:42.39 | S2AnGeL | I musta changed it .. not sure why.. thanks.. I checked my logs then looked through my commands history and frig thought something was messed.. |
| 11:42.41 | S2AnGeL | lol |
| 11:43.46 | S2AnGeL | its great people like you who give a ip now and then that keep people intrested in linux. sometimes all the amount of searching brings up nothing |
| 11:43.49 | Maulkin | nukeu666: You'll need some sort of X server on cygwin. Try asking in #cygwin |
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| 11:45.17 | mosty | i want to run apt-get non-interactively, how can i feed it the answers to the debconf questions? |
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| 11:45.55 | nukeu666 | cygwinx server is running on my comp...i needed to know what to set DISPLAY as on the debian machine |
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| 11:47.37 | mosty | nuke666: ssh -X user@yourdebianmachine, from a terminal in cygwin's X server. then just run whatever you like |
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| 11:47.52 | yn_ | anyone with expirience building redhat-cluster-sources into kernel (not as modules)? |
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| 11:48.47 | nukeu666 | aah...i didnt know about the -X switch |
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| 11:49.59 | lanchow | mesut_: please can you give me your source.list, i don't find lg-issue29 .deb |
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| 11:51.16 | FredNeuberger | Hi |
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| 11:54.26 | Tonnerre | Salut |
| 11:54.29 | FredNeuberger | I have a problem with /usr/share/doc/libhal1/README. ls -al shows that it is a directory with a size of 2GB. When I try to delete the "directory", get an "operation not permitted" error. fsck -f doesn't find any errors. |
| 11:54.44 | FredNeuberger | Any suggestions? |
| 11:54.53 | mosty | FredNeuberger, lsattr ? |
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| 11:55.23 | FredNeuberger | mosty: No output from lsattr |
| 11:56.23 | FredNeuberger | Oohh, Filesystem is ext3 |
| 11:56.23 | MatBoy | Is it true that the nv-driver doesn't support dual-head ? |
| 11:56.23 | Tonnerre | I am currently trying to build a kernel using make-kpkg, but I only get warnings when dpkg-buildpackage runs because, as it says, there are no files in the file lists, so no packages are created |
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| 11:56.23 | Zv3n | hello |
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| 11:56.33 | valdyn | Tonnerre: tell us what exactly you are doing in which directory |
| 11:56.35 | Tonnerre | Is there a modus operandi which I might have got entirely wrong? |
| 11:57.07 | Tonnerre | valdyn, I am extracting a vanilla kernel source, applying some patches by hand, then cd into that dir and run make-kpng buildpackage |
| 11:57.10 | Tonnerre | kpkg |
| 11:57.14 | Zv3n | trying to have the alsa packages list installed on my debian... dpkg ? dselect ? howto??? |
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| 11:58.30 | valdyn | Tonnerre: make-kpkg kernel-image ( sarge ) |
| 11:59.25 | valdyn | Zv3n: why? what are you trying to achieve ? |
| 11:59.31 | wombachi | Tonnerre: don't forget make menuconfig before make-kpkg |
| 12:00.08 | Tonnerre | wombachi, I copied my .config, and make-kpkg seems to run oldconfig |
| 12:00.17 | valdyn | Tonnerre: yea that is right |
| 12:00.33 | Zv3n | want the list of installed packaged |
| 12:00.39 | wombachi | Tonnerre: use make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image if you need a ramdisk |
| 12:00.45 | Zv3n | it's a mess and i try to have working sound |
| 12:00.50 | FredNeuberger | What else can I do with a broken File, wich I can't delete and fsck doesn't find any errors? |
| 12:00.51 | Tonnerre | wombachi, no, I don't, but thanks. ;) |
| 12:00.54 | valdyn | Zv3n: im sure you have a reason why you want this |
| 12:01.13 | valdyn | Tonnerre: run the 'make-kpkg kernel-image' anyway. See if that gives the same error |
| 12:01.27 | Zv3n | there's a lot of reason |
| 12:01.35 | Tonnerre | Yes, I'm at it. This is a damn slow computer, so please have some patience. ;) |
| 12:02.04 | Tonnerre | (Pentium 3 600MHz) |
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| 12:02.16 | MatBoy | What should I do to when I compile my kernel and I don't want to have problems with the nvidia-sources in Etch ? |
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| 12:03.00 | kimo | Hi, I built a vanilla kernel on sid, it boots but cant find my LVM / partition! (/boot is not on LVM), any hint ? |
| 12:03.20 | Tonnerre | BTW, while I'm at it, is there an easy way to compile a xen 2.0 kernel using make-kpkg without getting a package for a nonexistent architecture named 'xen' in the end? |
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| 12:04.06 | JoelR | one question, how can i do to listen cd audio in my debian? i can listen mp3, but when i play an audio cd with xmms it shows me that it's playing but i don't hear nothing |
| 12:04.07 | wombachi | kimo I'm not sure grub has decent support for lvm |
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| 12:04.30 | wombachi | (needed when root is on lvm) |
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| 12:05.56 | MatBoy | the config that is in boot is always the config you run ? |
| 12:06.00 | valdyn | JoelR: you box may be missing the audio cable from CD to soundcard |
| 12:06.13 | valdyn | JoelR: you can still play via applications that grab sound off that CD |
| 12:06.15 | Tonnerre | MatBoy, if you always put it there, yes |
| 12:06.16 | JoelR | valdyn: no it is not |
| 12:06.31 | valdyn | JoelR: how do you know? |
| 12:06.44 | JoelR | valdyn: i installed xmms-cdread so i can play it from xmms |
| 12:06.55 | JoelR | valdyn, because in windows it plays good. |
| 12:07.01 | MatBoy | Tonnerre, can you explain me why I get nvidia-source errors than after compiling a new kernel with the same config as stands there ? |
| 12:07.06 | valdyn | JoelR: windows grabs the sound |
| 12:07.07 | kimo | wombachi: /boot/ is NOT on LVM, so it's not that difficult (redhat & suse does this by default) (This is not ROOT on LVM setup) |
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| 12:07.25 | MatBoy | Tonnerre, I have isntalled the nvidia-driver some time ago and now it's away from etch :( |
| 12:07.25 | mesut_ | lanchow : deb http://ftp.tr.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 12:07.35 | JoelR | valdyn: it's supposed that if xmms shows that it's playing, it's grabbing it, right? |
| 12:07.41 | valdyn | JoelR: no |
| 12:07.55 | mesut_ | lanchow : deb http://ftp.tr.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main contrib non-free |
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| 12:08.17 | valdyn | JoelR: do you understand the difference between grabbing the audio data and letting the CD player just play back itself? |
| 12:08.19 | mesut_ | lanchow : deb-src http://ftp.tr.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 12:08.38 | mesut_ | lanchow : deb-src http://ftp.tr.debian.org/debian-non-US/ stable/non-US main contrib non-free |
| 12:08.44 | JoelR | valdyn: no |
| 12:08.52 | mesut_ | lanchow : four row |
| 12:09.03 | valdyn | JoelR: try sound-juicer maybe |
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| 12:09.28 | valdyn | JoelR: i dont recall with applications precisely will use grabbing to play audio-cds though |
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| 12:10.11 | Zv3n | :( |
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| 12:13.12 | dmand | ive got a low spec system running with sarge and kernel 2.2.20 (woody upgrade to sarge). i would like to use ext3, and maintain the kernel. i cant find any suitable kernel image in my sources. what to do? |
| 12:13.15 | morten | !nn |
| 12:13.15 | dpkg | nn is probably Netscape Navigator.. SHITE, or an unoptimized, crashing piece of shit, or night night |
| 12:13.33 | valdyn | dmand: why cant you find a suitable kernel? |
| 12:13.42 | morten | !newsreader |
| 12:13.55 | S2AnGeL | do I need the exact kernel source and headders if i want to compile |
| 12:13.58 | dmand | valdyn: apt-cache search does not come up with anything |
| 12:13.59 | Arafangion | dmand: Upgrade to 2.4 |
| 12:14.10 | valdyn | dmand: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 12:14.22 | valdyn | dmand: and grab a 2.4 or 2.6 image of your choice |
| 12:14.23 | morten | guys, i need some input on what (textbased) newsreader to choose. let's start a newsreader war, please. |
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| 12:14.31 | morten | what roolz and what droolz? |
| 12:14.32 | grap | hi |
| 12:14.43 | morten | omg hi2u ^^ |
| 12:14.53 | jelly-home | morten: just use slrn and be done with it. |
| 12:15.08 | dmand | Arafangion: ,valdyn, i have seen googling that a 2.2.20 kernel exists with ext3 support. but cant find it in sources |
| 12:15.09 | grap | does anyone know the name of the project of sun about a 3d desktop enviornment ? |
| 12:15.15 | grap | i can't remember it now |
| 12:15.24 | morten | jelly-home: why does slrn rule? |
| 12:15.25 | valdyn | grap: looking glass |
| 12:15.31 | grap | thanks! |
| 12:15.33 | S2AnGeL | I am having a heck of a time trying to find 2.4.27-1-386 source.. and headders |
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| 12:15.52 | valdyn | S2AnGeL: why are you trying to find it? |
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| 12:15.54 | dmand | Arafangion: im afraid it will be too much for my system.. it needs to be a very bare kernel |
| 12:15.59 | S2AnGeL | where the heck do zi find that.. |
| 12:16.07 | Arafangion | dmand: 2.4 will probably even be faster. |
| 12:16.09 | valdyn | !info kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 sarge |
| 12:16.11 | lunitik | S2AnGeL: any reason you're wanting to still use 2.4.x? Thats about 3 year old technology... |
| 12:16.12 | S2AnGeL | I need to recompile |
| 12:16.12 | Arafangion | dmand: How much memory do you have? |
| 12:16.14 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386: (Linux kernel image for version 2.4.27 on 386), section base, is optional. Version: 2.4.27-10sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 10787 kB, Installed size: 28984 kB |
| 12:16.14 | tarzeau | what's binary of 0x63 and 0xE3 |
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| 12:16.28 | jelly-home | morten: I didn't say it ruled. I said use it. Then if you don't like it look for alternatives. |
| 12:16.31 | valdyn | S2AnGeL: that kernel is not supported by debian, probably a pre-sarge kernel |
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| 12:16.40 | valdyn | S2AnGeL: you want to update yours to what dpkg listed above |
| 12:16.43 | S2AnGeL | dunno , tried 2.6.8 had some issues sorta still afraid to upgared |
| 12:17.10 | lunitik | S2AnGeL: eh... even 2.6.8 is almost 18 months old :/ |
| 12:17.16 | S2AnGeL | whith hte motherboard had some cpu errors.. |
| 12:17.16 | morten | jelly-home: i'm looking for one newsreader to rule them all :( |
| 12:17.16 | dmand | Arafangion: 32M |
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| 12:17.29 | S2AnGeL | whats a good kernel in the 2.6 |
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| 12:17.41 | S2AnGeL | for running a webserver ftp and a asterisk box |
| 12:17.42 | Arafangion | dmand: Then you have no problem. |
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| 12:17.53 | valdyn | S2AnGeL: stick to your 2.4 kernel if it works |
| 12:17.55 | jelly-home | morten: no such thing. Ask for a specific set of features. |
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| 12:18.04 | Tonnerre | tarzeau, 0x63 = 01100011 or so I think |
| 12:18.07 | valdyn | S2AnGeL: and mind the -2 above, -1 kernel does not exist in debian anymore |
| 12:18.08 | lunitik | S2AnGeL: latest is 2.6.16.19 :/ |
| 12:18.14 | S2AnGeL | well thats just it.. all the boxs i built.. (so far so good0 was a 2.4 |
| 12:18.15 | dmand | Arafangion: what would 2.4 claim more than 2.2 where RAM is concerned? |
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| 12:18.26 | Arafangion | dmand: Sane swap file configurations. |
| 12:18.33 | S2AnGeL | i usualy do a netinstall.. |
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| 12:18.43 | valdyn | dmand: not a significant amount |
| 12:18.50 | S2AnGeL | the netinstall does not seem to give me the latest kernel.. |
| 12:18.53 | dmand | Arafangion: with the processes that I have currently running, its already swapping constantly |
| 12:18.55 | Tonnerre | tarzeau, 0xe3 is 0x11100011 |
| 12:18.57 | gnychis | can anyone suggest an app to do OSD with fvwm? |
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| 12:19.03 | lunitik | S2AnGeL: 'linux26' next time ;) (instead of just hitting enter during install) |
| 12:19.09 | tarzeau | Tonnerre: so it's a typical one bit flip |
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| 12:19.10 | Arafangion | dmand: It would likely be more responsive. The way you were going on about, though, I was wondering if you had 8MB or even 4MB, in which case you really did need every KB of memory and 2.2 would be teh most you could really use. |
| 12:19.11 | valdyn | gnychis: xosd? |
| 12:19.13 | tarzeau | Tonnerre: thanks |
| 12:19.16 | morten | jelly-home: ability to read news is a good start. support for multiple servers is nice. being able to filter out news based on headers etc would be cool. ala mail filtering. |
| 12:19.23 | Arafangion | dmand: What are you running? |
| 12:19.27 | Tonnerre | tarzeau, of the MSB |
| 12:19.33 | lunitik | !osd |
| 12:19.34 | dpkg | osd is, like, on screen display |
| 12:19.35 | jelly-home | morten: I recommend slrn because most people on our shell machines use it. |
| 12:19.44 | gnychis | valdyn: thanks |
| 12:19.45 | tarzeau | Tonnerre: it doesn't matter. it happened in the memory or disk in a file |
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| 12:20.09 | dmand | Arafangion: thttp webserver, edna streaming web server, bittorrent, SSH |
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| 12:20.39 | tarzeau | Tonnerre: did you get your kernel built? |
| 12:20.41 | MatBoy | Can noone tell me why I get problem with nvidia while compiling a new kernel ?? :( |
| 12:20.43 | jelly-home | morten: that's really generic (except for the multiple servers support), most of active projects have support for filtering of some sort. |
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| 12:20.49 | Arafangion | dmand: And which process uses the most ram? |
| 12:20.54 | Tonnerre | tarzeau, it's still building, but it is already building in fs/ |
| 12:20.56 | tarzeau | MatBoy: www.linuks.mine.nu/nvidia/nvidia-driver |
| 12:20.57 | valdyn | !tell MatBoy -about ask |
| 12:21.06 | dmand | Arafangion: i want to add a 300G disk to the system, but would like to use ext3 iso ext2 |
| 12:21.20 | tarzeau | Tonnerre: 2.4 or 2.6? |
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| 12:21.26 | Tonnerre | tarzeau, 2.6 |
| 12:21.32 | Arafangion | dmand: Just upgrade to 2.4. |
| 12:21.43 | morten | jelly-home: that just shows how little i know about usenet :( |
| 12:21.57 | Arafangion | dmand: If you can add more RAM, that'd also be far better. |
| 12:22.22 | jelly-home | morten: then you don't need one reader "to rule them all". Just try one and see if it sticks. |
| 12:22.51 | MatBoy | tarzeau, what is it fixing if I may ask ? |
| 12:22.58 | MatBoy | tarzeau, I have seen that before |
| 12:23.22 | tarzeau | MatBoy: it builds the nvidia driver for your kernel (whatever linux kernel you have) everytime you boot (if it's not built already) |
| 12:23.54 | MatBoy | tarzeau, is this a fix for that nvidia was removed from Etch ? |
| 12:23.58 | tarzeau | Tonnerre: there was some easy command to dump files binary... but i can't remember which/how |
| 12:24.11 | tarzeau | MatBoy: i have no idea about etch. that's how i use the nvidia binary driver |
| 12:24.31 | Tonnerre | tarzeau, hexdump? |
| 12:24.41 | MatBoy | tarzeau, so it also downloads the sources that you can APT-get ? |
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| 12:24.56 | benluo | hi |
| 12:24.59 | MatBoy | tarzeau, because I ask myself why I should use this version instead of the debian-version |
| 12:25.08 | benluo | i use live.debian.net cd now |
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| 12:25.14 | valdyn | tarzeau: nice hack |
| 12:25.21 | benluo | how can i change to root account? |
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| 12:25.24 | tarzeau | Tonnerre: i couldn't find the option for hexdump or od |
| 12:25.27 | benluo | i can not find password |
| 12:25.33 | benluo | any suggestion? |
| 12:25.34 | tarzeau | valdyn: it's really nice :) |
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| 12:25.46 | tarzeau | MatBoy: yes everything, install it, forget it |
| 12:25.49 | valdyn | tarzeau: why kernel-source but not kernel-headers? |
| 12:25.57 | tarzeau | valdyn: go figure... |
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| 12:26.12 | MatBoy | tarzeau, if that fixes my problem :) |
| 12:26.14 | tarzeau | valdyn: because it won't work with kernel-headers alone for the simple reason |
| 12:26.24 | tarzeau | valdyn: the linux/Makefile is not like the original |
| 12:26.26 | lord_ | hello every one |
| 12:26.28 | MatBoy | tarzeau, I'm going to kiss you than OK ? or do you want beer ? |
| 12:26.30 | tarzeau | valdyn: when you check uname -r output |
| 12:26.39 | lord_ | i hv a problem with my ubuntu |
| 12:26.42 | tarzeau | MatBoy: a/s/l? if not female rather a beer |
| 12:26.49 | tarzeau | !based on debian |
| 12:26.49 | dpkg | You're not running Debian, but a distribution that uses the same package management system, but not the same packages. You can't use packages from Debian with Ubuntu, or packages from Mepis with Knoppix. That is why we cannot help you, you will need to visit the IRC channels of the respective distributions. See <Ubuntu> <Knoppix> <Kanotix> <Mepis> |
| 12:26.50 | lord_ | my php file keeps downloading |
| 12:26.50 | dmand | any particular kernel version for 2.4 Arafangion? thinkking that low RAM is the game.. |
| 12:27.01 | MatBoy | tarzeau, I can act like a female :p |
| 12:27.02 | lord_ | instead of interpreting |
| 12:27.08 | tarzeau | MatBoy: no thanks |
| 12:27.21 | MatBoy | tarzeau, LOL |
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| 12:28.14 | valdyn | dmand: the kernel is really insignificant for your ram usage |
| 12:29.03 | Tonnerre | ...building .ko files now.. |
| 12:29.06 | dmand | valdyn: thx. so going for 2.4, what do i choose 2.4.? |
| 12:29.14 | lord_ | hello debhelper |
| 12:29.14 | lord_ | can u help me |
| 12:29.17 | valdyn | dmand: the one fitting your CPU |
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| 12:30.27 | dmand | valdyn: a p1 166mhz intel |
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| 12:31.06 | Tonnerre | linux-xen0-2.6.11.12_2.6.11.12-tlxen0_i386.deb |
| 12:31.07 | Tonnerre | Nice |
| 12:31.26 | valdyn | dmand: kernel-image-2.4.27-2-586 |
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| 12:33.12 | orlowsks | Hello folks |
| 12:33.41 | Arafangion | dmand: kernel choice only becomes significant for less than 8MB of ram, or more than 1GB or more than several GB. |
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| 12:35.50 | orlowsks | Is there any documentation on how to get usb storage to work? |
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| 12:36.02 | valdyn | !usb storage |
| 12:36.03 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
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| 12:36.34 | dmand | valdyn: the closest in my sources is 2.4.27 (w/o mention to 586) that's the one? |
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| 12:36.40 | dmand | thx Arafangion |
| 12:36.44 | tarzeau | Arafangion: it also matters what cputype and how mnay of the cpus you have |
| 12:36.50 | valdyn | dmand: which is it? |
| 12:36.50 | orlowsks | Yes. I have a thumb drive and i can't seem to mount it |
| 12:37.04 | valdyn | !info kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 12:37.07 | valdyn | !info kernel-image-2.4.27-2-586 |
| 12:37.08 | sussudio | in soviet russia, thumbdrive mounts you. |
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| 12:37.10 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386: (Linux kernel image for version 2.4.27 on 386), section base, is optional. Version: 2.4.27-12 (sid), Packaged size: 10791 kB, Installed size: 28992 kB |
| 12:37.11 | Arafangion | tarzeau: Yes, but those aren't memories ;) |
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| 12:37.30 | valdyn | dmand: use kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 12:38.10 | blondie | how do you get CUPS to talk to Windows print queues? |
| 12:38.22 | Tonnerre | Thanks to all who helped me |
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| 12:38.25 | valdyn | !cups setup |
| 12:38.25 | dpkg | from memory, cups setup is Install cupsys, cupsys-bsd, cupsomatic-ppd and foomatic-db. Hit http://localhost:631/ and add a new printer. Enjoy!, or or you can try printconf |
| 12:38.42 | valdyn | blondie: nothing special to do... |
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| 12:38.48 | orlowsks | Thanks |
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| 12:39.36 | wsjunior | is there a channel for amd64 issues with debian? |
| 12:39.44 | valdyn | !amd64 |
| 12:39.44 | dpkg | somebody said amd64 was See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, now official, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 12:39.52 | wsjunior | thanks |
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| 12:40.26 | setcode | Someone know what I need configure for running tremulous ? (I have GeForce2 MX 400 with nv module, Xorg, DirectFB) |
| 12:40.43 | blondie | valdyn: but when you add a printer using the web interface, it doesn't give the option to use a samba/windows type print queue |
| 12:40.54 | phaedrus44 | how do i adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH environemtn variable? |
| 12:41.37 | ktwilight | just export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="" ? |
| 12:41.54 | phaedrus44 | in console? |
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| 12:42.43 | Zv3n | 's back and searching for a 2.6.17-smp debian kernel |
| 12:43.04 | valdyn | blondie: no "Windows Printer via SAMBA" option ? |
| 12:43.09 | blondie | valdyn: nope |
| 12:43.18 | MatBoy | Can I compile the kernel on my system while I'm working on it ? I had problems before after compiling a kernel while working on it :( |
| 12:43.20 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:43.21 | dpkg | from memory, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 12:43.40 | valdyn | blondie: apt-get install smbclient |
| 12:43.48 | blondie | right |
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| 12:44.38 | blondie | valdyn: thanks |
| 12:44.49 | HarpiaIn | hi! I just download a cd debian-testing-iso and I want to know how could I install it on a hardware that doesn't have internet acess. Do you know? |
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| 12:46.52 | superlinux | do you know a software that can capture the X11 screen and mix it with microphone input? I wanna make vidoes for linux training/tutorials |
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| 12:47.23 | MatBoy | superlinux, FLash ? |
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| 12:47.51 | ktwilight | yes phaedrus44 |
| 12:48.28 | ktwilight | HarpianIn, read the documentation ;) |
| 12:48.35 | superlinux | I donno, what do you recommend? |
| 12:48.44 | HarpiaIn | :P. |
| 12:48.58 | ktwilight | :P |
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| 12:52.12 | orlowsks | How do I find out what is attached by usb? |
| 12:52.34 | sekh` | lsusb ? |
| 12:52.41 | DaBlade | dmesg? |
| 12:52.44 | orlowsks | thanks |
| 12:53.06 | ends | how do i use my webcam |
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| 12:53.29 | ends | where can i goto find out the steps to use it |
| 12:53.47 | ends | like uh |
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| 12:54.56 | ends | its detected and stuff how do i capture stuff off it |
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| 12:55.04 | ends | what button do i press |
| 12:55.12 | orlowsks | Why would kinfo tell me information on my thumbdrive but I can't mount the device? |
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| 12:56.28 | jesusch | is there a way that a user can define a searchdomain? something like ~/.resolv.conf? |
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| 12:58.47 | eddiecheng | anybody did a chroot installation before ?? |
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| 13:00.28 | jair | hello everyone :) |
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| 13:01.29 | jair | I wonder if with the new installer of debian I can upload drivers from a external media during the installation process like from a (floppy disk for example) |
| 13:01.34 | orlowsks | how do I find out what dev my usb is using? |
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| 13:05.07 | ktwilight | take your usb out, do tail -f /var/log/messages then plug it in |
| 13:05.10 | ktwilight | it should tell ya... |
| 13:05.13 | ktwilight | all in console |
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| 13:05.55 | blahheva | anyone know where i could get a debian/sparc (or sparc64) client |
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| 13:06.27 | valdyn | blondie: uh_ |
| 13:06.30 | gandhijee | does anyone know how i can let a user mount and arbitary file? |
| 13:06.36 | valdyn | blondie: sorry nvm |
| 13:06.46 | valdyn | blondie: a what? |
| 13:06.49 | valdyn | blondie: ffs |
| 13:06.53 | valdyn | blahheva: a what? |
| 13:06.58 | gandhijee | i already have the entry in fstab, but its for a specific file, i want the user to be able to mount any file |
| 13:07.13 | orlowsks | Thanks |
| 13:07.15 | valdyn | gandhijee: cant |
| 13:07.29 | ktwilight | :) |
| 13:07.33 | valdyn | gandhijee: this would just grant that user ROOT, its unsafe |
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| 13:07.46 | valdyn | gandhijee: just give him the root password if that is acceptable |
| 13:07.53 | ktwilight | i would have thought that mounting is root access only...? |
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| 13:08.01 | ktwilight | though i think sudo can get away with it. |
| 13:08.08 | gandhijee | sudo can do it |
| 13:08.23 | tsw | and with sudo you can restrict to only mounting |
| 13:08.26 | blahheva | sorry, a boinc client for debian/sparc |
| 13:08.28 | gandhijee | i just don't want to go through all that hassle when i need to mount stuff right now |
| 13:08.46 | gandhijee | i am developing some firmware and have different versions of my rootfs |
| 13:08.51 | valdyn | tsw: yea, but being able to mount any file already gives root |
| 13:08.52 | grzesio | hi i am looking somebody who speek polish |
| 13:09.07 | gandhijee | and i just wanted to be able to type mount <file name> |
| 13:09.09 | tsw | valdyn: hmm, true |
| 13:09.23 | tsw | gandhijee: write a small bash script for it |
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| 13:09.42 | valdyn | gandhijee: try to understand how this works, it gives users ROOT access, might aswell just hand out the root password freely |
| 13:09.54 | grzesio | mowi ktos po polsku? |
| 13:10.11 | tsw | valdyn: I thinks its more like not wanting to type the whole command all the time |
| 13:10.17 | tsw | s/thinks/think |
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| 13:10.19 | redcliffe | hi all, got a problem with my system, evbug.c is producing logs into syslog, debug log and another one at a rate of about 30 a second, filling my hard drive fast |
| 13:10.30 | redcliffe | anyone know why it does that and how i can fix it? |
| 13:10.36 | gandhijee | valdyn: understand that this box is just for developing a firmware, nothing else |
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| 13:10.54 | grzesio | I have problem with ETCH Who help me? |
| 13:10.54 | gandhijee | no one else logs into it at all, and its not even on the network |
| 13:10.55 | valdyn | tsw: hardly, since we are talking about users being able to mount random files they will have to type that |
| 13:11.03 | valdyn | gandhijee: fine, so give them the root password |
| 13:11.40 | phaedrus44 | ok, another dumb question how do i move back one directory in console? |
| 13:11.41 | gandhijee | them is me, |
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| 13:11.57 | Phated | phaedrus44: cd .. |
| 13:12.02 | wam | gandhijee: if you really know what this means, put 'user ALL= NOPASSWD: ALL' into /etc/sudoers. Then you'll be able to 'sudo mount /bla /blub'. |
| 13:12.04 | gandhijee | i just don't want to keep having to sudo/su everytime i mount |
| 13:12.08 | valdyn | gandhijee: i dont exactly understand your problem then: 'mount -o loop somefile /somewhere |
| 13:12.09 | sep | phaedrus44, cd .. on down the tree cd - back to where you came from |
| 13:12.12 | orlowsks | When I plug in my drive the message log says sda: sda1. Which dev should i mount? |
| 13:12.17 | valdyn | gandhijee: ^^ is all you need to do ( as root ) |
| 13:12.19 | phaedrus44 | quess i wasnt using the space between cd and .. |
| 13:12.28 | phaedrus44 | thanks |
| 13:12.40 | sep | orlowsks, sda is the drive, sda1 is the partition, you mount the partition |
| 13:12.51 | phaedrus44 | and what about removing a directory even if it has files in it? |
| 13:12.52 | orlowsks | thanks sep |
| 13:12.57 | phaedrus44 | rmdir ? |
| 13:13.32 | pngwn | phaedrus44, man rmdir ? |
| 13:13.48 | valdyn | gandhijee: so keep a root shell open. |
| 13:13.49 | grzesio | i install etch net install but i cannot run my network connection |
| 13:13.53 | grzesio | any idea? |
| 13:14.17 | grzesio | without network i cannot do anythink |
| 13:14.24 | phaedrus44 | the man pages say rmdir if they are empty |
| 13:14.33 | valdyn | grzesio: why are you using a beta installer? |
| 13:14.46 | orlowsks | But when I mount the partition it says there is no special device sda1 |
| 13:14.51 | valdyn | grzesio: which network device is it you are having issues with? |
| 13:14.54 | redcliffe | anyone know what kernel config option turns off or on evbug.ko? |
| 13:15.02 | Phated | phaedrus44: If you want to remove a directory and everything in it, rm -r - use with caution. |
| 13:15.06 | grzesio | valdyn: can we talk in privet? |
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| 13:15.11 | valdyn | grzesio: no |
| 13:15.13 | valdyn | !msg |
| 13:15.14 | dpkg | (1) Use private messages to the bots to reduce channel spam, but don't message people on #debian without asking permission first. Most questions should be asked on channel, so that others can benefit from the question and the answers received. (2) Always feel free to message freenode network staff. They're the people with hostnames ending in 'staff.freenode'. (3) Monosodium glutamate, a food additive (see http://truthinlabeling.org/). |
| 13:15.32 | redcliffe | forget it found it |
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| 13:16.04 | grzesio | valdyn: i dont understand you |
| 13:16.12 | phaedrus44 | thanks Phated |
| 13:16.14 | valdyn | grzesio: just ask your questions here |
| 13:16.22 | grzesio | ok |
| 13:16.27 | valdyn | grzesio: and tell us the answers to my above questions here |
| 13:16.44 | grzesio | i cannot ru my network after net install |
| 13:17.03 | redcliffe | how do i empty my syslogs? |
| 13:17.05 | valdyn | grzesio: 15:14 < valdyn> grzesio: why are you using a beta installer? |
| 13:17.24 | valdyn | redcliffe: with rm? |
| 13:17.35 | redcliffe | valdyn: so i can safely just rm them? |
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| 13:18.09 | valdyn | redcliffe: not sure, /etc/init.d/sysklogd stop; rm things; /etc/init.d/sysklogd start |
| 13:18.17 | redcliffe | ok thanks |
| 13:18.19 | valdyn | redcliffe: for whatever syslog daemon you are using |
| 13:18.23 | redcliffe | yep ok |
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| 13:20.21 | DimmuR | can any1 help me with removing all spaces at the end of line in large file? |
| 13:20.50 | ktwilight | vi has a command that deletes everything under the cursor |
| 13:21.00 | ktwilight | can't remember what the command is though, just look in help/man? |
| 13:21.53 | DimmuR | hmm but then i need to go to each line :( |
| 13:22.06 | DimmuR | i tried sed -e 's/[ ]*$//g' but something is wrong :< |
| 13:22.25 | _zeus_ | plesk 7.5 for linux licanse key pls |
| 13:22.51 | ktwilight | ... |
| 13:23.02 | DimmuR | k i found it |
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| 13:24.23 | valdyn | DimmuR: that should removethe linewraps too |
| 13:24.32 | blahheva | what's a good interface for x11, similar to aptitude |
| 13:24.39 | pipeline | blahheva: Synaptic. |
| 13:25.05 | _zeus_ | plesk 7.5 for linux licanse key pls ? |
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| 13:25.13 | _zeus_ | plesk 7.5 for linux licanse key pls |
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| 13:25.18 | blahheva | thanks |
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| 13:26.45 | valdyn | _zeus_: wrong channel |
| 13:27.12 | stoned | hmm, is there a way to do the following, (i can create a button on my panel to lauch a command, but what would be the command) chvt to 7 from 8, and from 8 to 7 ( i have 2 X, :0 desktop local, and :1 laptop remote xdmcp+kdm, no ssh) or should I use ssh, I've read insane craploads and I am very confused now as to what is the best approach, ease of use vs security, and I dunno if I need that much security, systems are on closed network, not o |
| 13:27.12 | stoned | n the internet |
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| 13:27.41 | _zeus_ | which channel ý should go for plesk license key? |
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| 13:27.53 | stoned | so chvt doesn't work |
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| 13:28.11 | valdyn | _zeus_: go elsewhere to ask for pirating advice |
| 13:28.23 | stoned | apparantly none but root can use it, so I can fix that with setting the file bit, no problem |
| 13:28.32 | stoned | but which remote X approach is 'better' |
| 13:28.59 | pipeline | stoned: If it's on a closed network, you don't need any security at all :P |
| 13:29.13 | pipeline | stoned: just make everything open all the time and execute programs with a "-display" argument so they appear in the right spot |
| 13:29.17 | stoned | well true, but there maybe a need to hook it up sometime |
| 13:29.25 | stoned | hmm |
| 13:29.31 | stoned | I could do that |
| 13:30.13 | morten | !newsrc |
| 13:30.22 | stoned | pipeline, I was told that it takes about the same amount of resources running remotely as it does locally. Since all apps will run on laptop, but will dispaly on desktop, how is that going to affect the performance of desktop, which is 1gb RAM, 2.4ghz proc. |
| 13:30.45 | pipeline | stoned: uhh, not at all? |
| 13:30.48 | stoned | much or little? should I be worried about it |
| 13:30.50 | stoned | really? |
| 13:31.06 | pipeline | stoned: The application is still running on the remote system. The display is just a display. |
| 13:31.18 | pipeline | stoned: Network latency and the huge numbers of bitmaps modern apps use will, of course, ensure that the app runs like shit |
| 13:31.33 | stoned | pipeline, I know thats what I know, but in here, #debian, a few people told me that it is a waste of my time and resources |
| 13:31.48 | pipeline | stoned: It is very much a waste of time. Resources aren't an issue. |
| 13:31.50 | stoned | pipeline, I can watch dvd's/movies full screen over the net |
| 13:32.01 | pipeline | stoned: Had you considered using synergy or something? |
| 13:32.13 | stoned | pipeline, laptop is broken screen |
| 13:32.24 | stoned | thats the problem eternel monitoir won't hook up either |
| 13:32.35 | stoned | I use synergy on my windows machine with debian |
| 13:32.39 | stoned | server runs on deb |
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| 13:32.55 | stoned | external* |
| 13:32.57 | pipeline | stoned: Ok, well, you'll be fine. |
| 13:33.01 | stoned | word |
| 13:33.19 | pipeline | stoned: And the easiest way to do things is just "ssh -X" to the laptop, then run applications normally. (Make sure that X11Forwarding is enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the laptop.) |
| 13:33.29 | pipeline | stoned: I suggest this not for security reasons, but rather because it's the easiest fucking way to do things. |
| 13:33.33 | pipeline | noxl: Have fun being klined :P |
| 13:33.34 | stoned | pipeline, yeah thats good with the ssh X |
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| 13:34.19 | stoned | alias lapx='ssh -X stoned@laptop -C ' |
| 13:34.28 | pngwn | /c/c |
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| 13:34.32 | stoned | heh, I was wanting to do an entire desktop over the network |
| 13:34.47 | H2OyJaBoN | anybody can tell me repositories for etch AMD64 |
| 13:34.48 | H2OyJaBoN | ? |
| 13:34.48 | pipeline | stoned: Then set up an XDMCP server on the laptop. |
| 13:34.55 | stoned | pipeline, already setup |
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| 13:35.04 | stoned | pipeline, all works, just wondering which is better app roach |
| 13:35.07 | pipeline | stoned: That's much more complicated, however, and you'll have to read the damn documentation for both XDCMP server and client. |
| 13:35.11 | stoned | or more responsive rather |
| 13:35.48 | pipeline | it's going to suck no matter what, if you run halfway modern apps |
| 13:35.52 | pipeline | stupid client-side fonts ruin everything |
| 13:35.58 | stoned | pipeline, its trivial actually, and I've got xdmcp on laptop setup, I can X -broadcast -query laptop :1 etc. without a problem, just trying to get opinionos on which is worse or better to do for home use |
| 13:36.11 | stoned | I guess i'lls tick to xdm |
| 13:36.24 | stoned | thanks buddy I appreciate it |
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| 13:41.00 | draft | hi |
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| 13:42.40 | draft | could anyone help me in order to use linux on a usb stick (with daln small linux) ? or give server/channel to as question about it please ? |
| 13:43.28 | limpio | check their site or guess #damnsmalllinux maybe |
| 13:43.34 | ktwilight | you need to burn DSL then boot it, then install it into the usb stick. am sure their site has full documentation on it draft. |
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| 13:43.53 | ktwilight | ya be better off with running it off a cd rather than a stick. :/ |
| 13:43.59 | stoned | Rollercoaster of love |
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| 13:44.08 | stoned | :D |
| 13:44.20 | stoned | man I have not heard this song since I was a little child |
| 13:44.21 | stoned | hehe |
| 13:44.37 | stoned | I wonder if debian will be around when I'm a grandpa |
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| 13:44.50 | stoned | about 50 years from now |
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| 13:45.11 | stoned | I hope so, cuz I don't think I wanna use anything else |
| 13:45.20 | ktwilight | depends whether you'll be contributing or not? :P |
| 13:45.24 | stoned | hehe, dude this sound retarded but |
| 13:45.29 | stoned | I wanna grow old with debian! |
| 13:45.34 | stoned | lol |
| 13:45.37 | ktwilight | haha |
| 13:45.58 | stoned | till death do us part |
| 13:46.01 | stoned | hahaha |
| 13:46.11 | draft | yeah, i do this: download iso, unpack it and copy the files into my usb stick. try to use or not syslinux. but USB stick boot obly on some PC not on all.... |
| 13:46.32 | stoned | draft, booting from is dependant on system BIOS |
| 13:46.37 | stoned | from +usb+ |
| 13:46.40 | HarpiaIn | Hi, guys! I wanna install the debian, but how could I bypass the task where the installer ask me about mirrors and proxy? |
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| 13:47.15 | ktwilight | oh, i thought ya have to install it via cd...hmm... :/ |
| 13:47.21 | ktwilight | my bad *shrugs* |
| 13:47.25 | stoned | HarpiaIn, if you chose expert setup option during install you can skip that step |
| 13:47.25 | draft | stoned: well, but can I boot from USB on old BIOS ? |
| 13:47.36 | stoned | draft, check your bios, motherboard docs |
| 13:47.37 | ktwilight | your bios should give you the option, if it doesn't, it doesn't |
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| 13:49.10 | draft | stoned: what mansion must I see on the doc please ? |
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| 13:49.25 | xomhauvtt | hi all |
| 13:49.35 | xomhauvtt | how to backup database? ( mysql ) |
| 13:49.46 | ktwilight | google.com/search?q=mysql+backup+database |
| 13:49.47 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 13:50.03 | yggdrasi1 | whats the xserver log file .. i messed up my x |
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| 13:50.19 | ktwilight | xorg or xfree86? |
| 13:50.22 | xomhauvtt | ktwilight: i read man mysqldump but don't understand |
| 13:50.25 | yggdrasi1 | xorg |
| 13:50.35 | ktwilight | should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 13:50.40 | yggdrasi1 | yea thanks |
| 13:50.43 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 13:51.08 | yggdrasi1 | how do i see what other xserver stuff i have installed |
| 13:51.09 | grzesio | i need a little help who help me (private)? |
| 13:51.12 | grzesio | i need a little help who help me (private)? |
| 13:51.12 | ktwilight | then i think #mysql should be able to help you xomhauvtt :) |
| 13:51.13 | grzesio | i need a little help who help me (private)? |
| 13:51.29 | ktwilight | yggdrasil try dpkg -l xserver*? |
| 13:51.30 | nkuttler | !msg me |
| 13:51.30 | dpkg | Nobody is going to /msg you. Especially, don't /msg nkuttler. |
| 13:51.38 | stoned | draft, you will search for something like, boot from usb. Just do this; go to your BIOS settings when you boot the PC. Then look through the available/possible boot options. If usb isn't listed, you're fucked, otherwise you can boot from it. |
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| 13:51.40 | xomhauvtt | ktwilight: ok :D |
| 13:51.43 | morten | jesus christ. how can it be so difficult to find out how to set the default news server? can anyone tell me how to do this? |
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| 13:51.49 | rohan | grzesio: no one :P |
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| 13:51.55 | HarpiaIn | stoned, what about if I was a user and not an system administrator? |
| 13:52.02 | grzesio | why no one? |
| 13:52.06 | nkuttler | grzesio: just ask your question here. and please stop flooding |
| 13:52.09 | ktwilight | haha |
| 13:52.11 | stoned | HarpiaIn, huh? |
| 13:52.40 | grzesio | ok.how check if my network connection work properly? |
| 13:52.51 | morten | try to ping something |
| 13:52.54 | AlexCTI | Hi everyone, Someone knows what means Interrupt:201 Base address:0x6c00 |
| 13:52.58 | HarpiaIn | stoned, ? |
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| 13:53.01 | stoned | HarpiaIn, why are you talking to me? |
| 13:53.06 | AlexCTI | on my nic eth0? |
| 13:53.07 | rohan | i built my initrd using initramfs, it gave me errors about stuff like battery and fan kernel modules (its not a laptop, still those modules are trying to load), and using yaird, it gave me LOTS LOTS of errors about read only file system, and /dev/null permission denied, and stuff like "Contents of /sys will be hidden" , but i NEVER EVER got such errors with yaird, not even the fan and battery things .. is it a known problem ? |
| 13:53.59 | rohan | or do i file a bug report ? |
| 13:54.08 | HarpiaIn | because you give me a tipe to bypass the "mirrors" step on debian install process, ;-) |
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| 13:54.18 | ktwilight | haha |
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| 13:54.33 | draft | stoned: well i think im fucked.... but cant i use floppy disk ? |
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| 13:54.44 | AleXerTecH | somebody has installed the adative server anywhere (asa9) module for php in debian ? im getting troubles with this! :( |
| 13:54.50 | stoned | HarpiaIn, there is a reason why you have the option to do that. thus, "expert" setup option. Meaning if you're not an expert, don't fucking use it |
| 13:54.50 | grzesio | my ping is blocked by firewall |
| 13:54.59 | grzesio | another way? |
| 13:55.02 | stoned | HarpiaIn, you asked, I answered, I'm guilty ;) |
| 13:55.12 | nkuttler | grzesio: well, what do you expect the firewall to allow you? |
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| 13:55.27 | stoned | draft, what are you trying to accomplish. Tell me your entire situation |
| 13:56.04 | rohan | hmm.. bugs.debian.org is down ? |
| 13:56.11 | stoned | dunno |
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| 13:56.49 | cire | I plan to buy a PDA. I'd like to have linux as OS on it. Do you have any experiences? (I don't know what is state of the art at the moment). It should be small and have long battery lifetime. I don't need much multimedia capabilities as it shall mainly be used as organizer. |
| 13:56.58 | grzesio | knuttler: why you ask me this question? |
| 13:57.10 | grzesio | i only need to runme network |
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| 13:57.36 | grzesio | am i dhcp network |
| 13:57.58 | grzesio | network cart work properly but still i canot go outside |
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| 13:58.15 | nkuttler | grzesio: so your box is configured through dhcp? |
| 13:58.20 | friedl | hi how do you install atmelwlandriver. could anyone guide me through it? |
| 13:58.21 | grzesio | yes |
| 13:58.34 | AlexCTI | Stoned, I have a situation, My machine has 2 NIC cards, I'm try to setup the eth0 with a Fixed IP, so I already put the address and the subnet...etc and looks like fine it was down and i set thi up, but I can get it work, i see the ifconfig and i see on the last line Interrupt:201 Base address:0x6c00, so how can i check that eth0 is up and running? |
| 13:58.35 | nkuttler | grzesio: and the dhcpd runs on what? |
| 13:58.57 | mwe | what's the easiest way to remove X and everything that depends on it? |
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| 13:59.05 | cklaus | hey all .. anybody has experience with the 3ware 8006-2LP raid controller in debian ? anybody knows since which kernel version it is supported (if it is.. ) ? |
| 13:59.07 | ktwilight | it's been down for a couple of days i think rohan |
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| 13:59.17 | rohan | ktwilight: oh, ok |
| 13:59.18 | stoned | AlexCTI, ifconfig? |
| 13:59.23 | rohan | ktwilight: happens to you, too ? |
| 13:59.23 | nkuttler | mwe: try /msg dpkg remove x |
| 13:59.37 | draft | stoned : well ; i want to use linux at work by usb. on my computer it works fine, but not at work. I try with shinux and damn small linux without success... ui try to use "bootfloppy-usb.img" without success too.... |
| 13:59.38 | AlexCTI | yes, i'm using shell to set up this |
| 13:59.41 | phaedrus44 | how to make an app run auto when booting? |
| 13:59.43 | grzesio | nkuttles:www.bath.ac.uk |
| 13:59.49 | stew | cklaus: that card should be supported by any debian kernel |
| 13:59.54 | ktwilight | just heard 'bout it yesterday from someone :) |
| 14:00.03 | rohan | ktwilight: :) |
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| 14:00.23 | ktwilight | but weirdly, it works for me? :/ |
| 14:00.24 | ktwilight | http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 14:00.27 | stoned | AlexCTI, no I meant like ifconfig isn't telling you if eth0 is up or not? |
| 14:00.28 | rohan | i still cant decide between yaird and initramfs-tools .. yaird has always been perfect up until now |
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| 14:00.39 | nkuttler | grzesio: ok. paste the output of ifconfig in #flood or /msg dpkg paste. and try to type my name correctly please |
| 14:00.45 | friedl | I've read the RADME file for atmelwlandriver but i still cant install the god damn card |
| 14:00.53 | ktwilight | draft, have you tried puppy linux? or knoppix? |
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| 14:01.24 | rohan | anyway, while boot i get the message "[udevd-event]: %e is deprecated, unused, and unlikely to work properly. Dont use it" .. any remedies for that ? |
| 14:01.25 | nkuttler | grzesio: ah, well, try http://www.bath.ac.uk/bucs/network/ |
| 14:01.30 | draft | ktwilight: well no, just knoppix on cd. i watch doc :) |
| 14:01.45 | AlexCTI | stoned, when I run ifconfig it show me all of them but on the eth0 i get that line Interrupt:201 Base address:0x6c00 which is not on eth1 and that works |
| 14:01.46 | stoned | draft, if the usb key boots at home, means you have a bios capable of booting from a usb device. if your work pc does'nt, then get into the work pc bios and see if you can boot from usb. if you cant' get into those options, contact you sysadmin. If they don't help or you can't boot from usb at work, you are out of luck |
| 14:01.46 | stew | rohan: /msg dpkg fresh udev config |
| 14:01.51 | ktwilight | k :) |
| 14:02.02 | rohan | thanks a lot, stew :) |
| 14:02.21 | stew | rohan: bts is back up |
| 14:02.33 | rohan | oh, ok |
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| 14:02.49 | stoned | draft, why don't you just boot from a cd at work? |
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| 14:03.00 | grzesio | knuttler:i asked my admin about proxy and he gave me some info but still doesnt work |
| 14:03.11 | stoned | AlexCTI, I dunno mate, those look like hardware thingy majiggies to me |
| 14:03.18 | phaedrus44 | how to make fbdesk run auto when booting? |
| 14:03.28 | tarzeau | who/what generates /dev/cdrom on a 2.4 kernel? |
| 14:03.35 | cklaus | stew, thanks.. you have a hint for me where i can check for stuff like that ? |
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| 14:03.38 | ktwilight | phaedrus44, it's dependent on what you run on, gnome/kde/etc? |
| 14:03.40 | tarzeau | (sarge) |
| 14:03.56 | rohan | !popcon |
| 14:03.57 | dpkg | it has been said that popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:04.00 | rohan | tarzeau: ;) |
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| 14:04.17 | tarzeau | rohan: omg you're infected! |
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| 14:04.25 | rohan | tarzeau: thanks to you :D |
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| 14:04.34 | draft | stoned: because i cant save file with cd and its toooooo slow :( |
| 14:04.50 | grzesio | knuttler: i send you my ifconfig and more o private?ok?? |
| 14:04.51 | rohan | so, do i file this yaird bug or no ... i mean, if it is a known problem .. |
| 14:04.57 | ktwilight | draft, you can always boot on cd, and mount usb. :) |
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| 14:05.01 | AlexCTI | stoned, how do I know that eth0 doesnt have drivers issue? |
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| 14:05.49 | stoned | AlexCTI, I have no idea |
| 14:06.00 | stew | cklaus: here are the debian configs: http://vireo.org/~stew/kconfig/ 2.4.27-2-386 and 2.6.8-2-386 are the current install kernels, the 3ware driver is the one that looks like *_3W_* which support all 3ware cards up until the 9500s. the 9500s requres a separate driver |
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| 14:06.09 | draft | ktwilight: yeah, but it is possible to change "/" without rebooting ? :p |
| 14:06.43 | orlowsks | special device /dev/sda1 does not exist. I keep getting this error when mounting my thumb drive. Any ideas? |
| 14:06.50 | jetscreamer | you could in single i think |
| 14:06.51 | rohan | hmm.. was there some other rohan here ? this is strange see. |
| 14:06.51 | rohan | !rohan |
| 14:06.51 | ktwilight | i wouldn't know anything 'bout that... :/ |
| 14:06.52 | dpkg | rumour has it, rohan is a php scripter in the everlasting search for more warez and porn |
| 14:07.08 | stoned | lol |
| 14:07.17 | stoned | I dunno about the warez, but porn |
| 14:07.18 | Soeki | gmorning, i finally installed xorg with gdm and now it runs till the login screen, after i log in to it . i get a black bash promt on the top left corner of the screen upon the blueish bg of gnome :( |
| 14:07.19 | stoned | mmm |
| 14:07.39 | rohan | stoned: come now, who doesnt want porn :D |
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| 14:07.51 | rohan | and ofcourse, i know 0 php :D |
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| 14:08.20 | stoned | Soeki, you don't have a window manager, or anything installed? if you do, then before you click login on the boot manager screen, go to the optinos and select your session, make sure its NOT on anything but kde/gnome, nothing like failsafe or something etc. |
| 14:08.28 | rohan | friedl: you have a nice girlfriend, dont you ? |
| 14:08.51 | friedl | yep and im getting laid at least once a week xD |
| 14:08.56 | stoned | when did porn have anything to do with having a mate? |
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| 14:09.08 | abrotman | once a week? |
| 14:09.10 | stoned | it doesn't, and never will. |
| 14:09.15 | abrotman | do you not live with her/him ? |
| 14:09.36 | friedl | nope, just 17y old. |
| 14:09.48 | rohan | friedl: so am i |
| 14:09.51 | stoned | Soeki, you are using gdm, so i think you have gnome, go to the menu in gdm and select session as Gnome. then click yes when it asks you to make it the default session |
| 14:10.11 | friedl | i tend to stay over at her place, but since she lives with her parents its kinda akward |
| 14:10.17 | Soeki | in the actions menu? |
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| 14:10.25 | stoned | Soeki, I think so I dunno |
| 14:10.26 | friedl | no irl |
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| 14:10.34 | maxb | Is /etc/hostname supposed to contain just the immediate local hostname (e.g. 'foobar') or the FQDN (e.g. 'foobar.example.com') ? |
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| 14:11.02 | orlowsks | usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6. Would ehci_hcd be the device? |
| 14:11.03 | Maulkin | maxb: local part only |
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| 14:11.25 | Maulkin | orlowsks: No, that's the driver that's claimed it. |
| 14:11.25 | jetscreamer | not the fqdn |
| 14:11.33 | jetscreamer | maxb: ^^ |
| 14:11.45 | grzesio | i need good sources.list for ETCH. |
| 14:11.48 | MatBoy | What is the best tutorial to find out what you don't need in your kernel ? |
| 14:11.48 | orlowsks | Thanks Maulkin |
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| 14:11.52 | Soeki | stoned it claims that i dont have gnome installed and that is prompting me to the emergency terminal so i can fix my system |
| 14:11.57 | stew | grzesio: /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 14:12.06 | stoned | Soeki, apt-get install gnome-core |
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| 14:12.11 | Soeki | oh |
| 14:12.15 | Soeki | i installed gdm |
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| 14:12.24 | Soeki | but no gnome-core :P |
| 14:12.28 | cklaus | stew, thanks again.. fyi, i know (since i recently installed one) that the 9500s is being finely supported in 2.6.8-2-386 (the current stable install cd kernel) .. only the 9550 (s/sx) need newer driver i think |
| 14:12.28 | stoned | Soeki, lol, well you gotta install other stuff too before you know |
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| 14:12.34 | valdyn | MatBoy: why dont you use a debian kernel? |
| 14:12.37 | orlowsks | SCSI device sda: 1000944 512-byte hdwr sectors (512 MB) |
| 14:12.37 | orlowsks | Jun 2 09:27:19 box kernel: sda: Write Protect is off |
| 14:12.38 | orlowsks | Jun 2 09:27:19 box kernel: SCSI device sda: 1000944 512-byte hdwr sectors (512 MB) |
| 14:12.38 | orlowsks | Jun 2 09:27:19 box kernel: sda: Write Protect is off |
| 14:12.38 | orlowsks | Jun 2 09:27:19 box kernel: sda: sda1 |
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| 14:13.02 | MatBoy | valdyn, I mean the config for my setup |
| 14:13.02 | maxb | Maulkin, jetscreamer: Thanks! Is that documented anywhere, or is it just an obscure bit of lore passed around in conversations? |
| 14:13.05 | Soeki | do you by any chance know the most importants i need? |
| 14:13.15 | stoned | Soeki, come again? |
| 14:13.15 | valdyn | MatBoy: i know what you mean |
| 14:13.19 | stew | cklaus: lucky you, the newest i have is a 7500 :) |
| 14:13.20 | MatBoy | valdyn, I don't need Laptop-modules on my workstation :) |
| 14:13.29 | valdyn | MatBoy: so? |
| 14:13.39 | cklaus | stew ;-) |
| 14:13.41 | Maulkin | maxb: man hostname? :) |
| 14:13.44 | MatBoy | valdyn, I want a very clean kernell |
| 14:13.47 | MatBoy | -a |
| 14:13.49 | MatBoy | -l |
| 14:13.57 | valdyn | MatBoy: debian kernsl are clean |
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| 14:14.03 | valdyn | MatBoy: debian kernels are clean |
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| 14:14.08 | stoned | MatBoy, you can spitshine any stock kernel |
| 14:14.14 | stoned | trust me |
| 14:14.22 | Soeki | stoned like... the name of the packages |
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| 14:14.31 | Soeki | just gdm, gnome-core? |
| 14:14.32 | stoned | Soeki, umm, just do apt-get install gnome |
| 14:14.42 | grzesio | /msg dhcp nkuttler fconfig |
| 14:14.42 | grzesio | > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:B0:F2:1C:4E |
| 14:14.42 | grzesio | > inet addr:172.21.18.109 Bcast:172.21.19.255 |
| 14:14.42 | grzesio | > Mask:255.255.252.0 |
| 14:14.42 | grzesio | > inet6 addr: fe80::20f:b0ff:fef2:1c4e/64 Scope:Link |
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| 14:14.58 | Soeki | also.. theres another weird thing |
| 14:15.04 | valdyn | MatBoy: this is like going about and deleting /usr/share/doc/ files that you will never read, its a waste of time |
| 14:15.04 | jetscreamer | maxb: i just know what mine looks like |
| 14:15.13 | Soeki | i use putty to log in via ssh to the debian box |
| 14:15.15 | orlowsks | sda would be the device and sda1 would be the partition. Correct? |
| 14:15.17 | MatBoy | valdyn, I use my config of the stockone in etch, I have downloaded the 2.6.16.18 of kernel.org and that is the I'm going to compile |
| 14:15.23 | Soeki | since i upgraded to sid i cant do it |
| 14:15.24 | jetscreamer | !info localepurge |
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| 14:15.30 | dpkg | localepurge: (Automagically remove unnecessary locale data), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.5.3 (sid), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 85 kB |
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| 14:15.33 | ktwilight | yes orlowsks |
| 14:15.38 | stew | !tell grzesio -about flood |
| 14:15.47 | Soeki | the app shuts down after i enter the password |
| 14:15.53 | maxb | Maulkin: I guess. There isn't a hostname(5). hostname(1) sort of hints in that direction, though, yes. |
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| 14:15.59 | stoned | argh |
| 14:16.23 | MatBoy | valdyn, normally it doesn;t matter to me... but I have the idea that the stock-config of Etch really doesn't hold what your system has... like 486 support by default :( |
| 14:16.28 | stoned | Soeki, one doesn't upgrade to Sid. sid is not a release to be upgraded to. I dont think you should use sid personally. Also, my opinion is wrong. |
| 14:16.36 | Maulkin | maxb: I think it's also mentioned by the abse system setup screens |
| 14:16.46 | valdyn | MatBoy: which cpu do you have? |
| 14:16.50 | orlowsks | ktwilight: thanks. I don't understand why it tells me that "special device /dev/sda1 does not exist" |
| 14:16.52 | MatBoy | Celeron 3.06 |
| 14:17.04 | valdyn | MatBoy: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 14:17.15 | stew | hostname(5) doesn't exist. as simple as the file is, the manpage should probably exist |
| 14:17.17 | MatBoy | valdyn, and than ? |
| 14:17.31 | ktwilight | what device is it orlowsks? usb? |
| 14:17.32 | valdyn | MatBoy: that's a clean kernel for your cpu |
| 14:17.33 | ktwilight | or sata? |
| 14:17.41 | Soeki | stoned well i had to do it just to test out. since xfree86 doesnt have a nice way to make ATIs work |
| 14:17.48 | grzesio | stew: could you explain me how ?? |
| 14:17.54 | Maulkin | !duts is <reply>One doesn't upgrade to Sid. Sid is not a release to be upgraded to. I dont think you should use sid personally. |
| 14:17.55 | dpkg | okay, Maulkin |
| 14:18.00 | orlowsks | ktwilight: Yes a usb thumbdrive |
| 14:18.05 | grzesio | ive never irc |
| 14:18.06 | MatBoy | valdyn, yes, but does it already hold a config ? I think it doesn't or what ? |
| 14:18.10 | stoned | Maulkin, what? |
| 14:18.24 | valdyn | MatBoy: hmm? |
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| 14:18.37 | valdyn | MatBoy: i fear you dont understand what you are talking about |
| 14:18.42 | ktwilight | are you sure it's /dev/sda1? |
| 14:18.44 | stew | grzesio: how to what? use #flood? how about a pastebin: http://channels.debian.net/paste |
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| 14:18.48 | stoned | hmm |
| 14:18.49 | Maulkin | stoned: 'don't upgrade to sid' |
| 14:18.51 | stoned | oh I see |
| 14:18.54 | stoned | !duts |
| 14:18.54 | dpkg | One doesn't upgrade to Sid. Sid is not a release to be upgraded to. I dont think you should use sid personally. |
| 14:19.05 | valdyn | MatBoy: its configuration will be in /boot like is the case with any debian kernel |
| 14:19.06 | stoned | ahh, word |
| 14:19.10 | MatBoy | valdyn, What I always did on Sarge was... installing it... apt-get the kernel.... and copied my config from boot to the new |
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| 14:19.28 | MatBoy | valdyn, I only have to enable SATA and so on I guess ? |
| 14:19.37 | Soeki | i still dont get it :P |
| 14:19.37 | orlowsks | according to the message log. It says Jun 2 09:27:19 box kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda |
| 14:19.56 | ktwilight | then try mounting /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1...? |
| 14:20.07 | ktwilight | i had similar problem too...it's one or the other that worked. |
| 14:20.20 | jair | guys I want to install debian sarge in a xseries server. But it looks like I will need to install the drivers for the servereaid that controls the scsi disks. |
| 14:20.26 | ktwilight | then sometimes it change to sdb or sdc or whatever :/ |
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| 14:20.42 | jair | it is a way I can select a boot way to prompt me to load additional drivers? |
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| 14:21.05 | jair | for example like when I am doing the installation with the floppies on Sarge Stabe |
| 14:21.08 | jair | stable |
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| 14:21.20 | friedl | u guys know how to configure a wlan PCMIA card? |
| 14:21.28 | orlowsks | ktwilight: Tried it and it says the same thing. Device doesn't exist. I tried mount sda1-4 and no luck |
| 14:21.42 | stoned | Soeki, could be bugs, check the bts, if you really insisnt upon using unstable, make sure to ALWAYS ALWAYS check out the bugs listed by listbugs. apt-get install apt-listbugs and if you don't understand what a bug is about or if it concerns you, get on debian BTS and look up the bug report #. |
| 14:21.46 | grzesio | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2717. |
| 14:22.02 | ktwilight | hmm....no idea orlowsks... :/ |
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| 14:22.21 | ktwilight | maybe there's a module needed for usb? |
| 14:22.26 | orlowsks | ktwilight: Well thanks. I apppreciate the help you given me. Take care |
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| 14:22.51 | grzesio | who help ?? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2717. |
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| 14:23.39 | Maulkin | grzesio: What's the problem? |
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| 14:23.55 | grzesio | i cannot go outside my network |
| 14:23.56 | Soeki | all i needed was x.org and sarge has xfree. im too newb to make the ati work with it using the rpms on the web site :) i know i should be using sarge thats what i want actually. |
| 14:24.05 | grzesio | university using proxy |
| 14:24.07 | stoned | grzesio, eth0 should have proper network settings |
| 14:24.11 | jetscreamer | rpm's? |
| 14:24.28 | ktwilight | grzesio, are you using dhcp or static? |
| 14:24.33 | grzesio | dhcp |
| 14:24.40 | ktwilight | once that's set, you need to configure your browser too, ie add proxy settings |
| 14:24.43 | ktwilight | if i ain't' wrong. |
| 14:24.56 | stoned | grzesio, /etc/network/interfaces - set your configuration here for eth0 |
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| 14:25.10 | Soeki | yes ati now has the drivers on rpm format. i tried to use alien to make the deb but it didnt go well |
| 14:25.22 | ktwilight | *shrugs* i tried alien once...it didn't go well either... |
| 14:25.48 | grzesio | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2718. |
| 14:25.48 | friedl | the coolest smallest linux server/computer: http://wiki.acmesystems.it |
| 14:25.56 | stoned | grzesio, also contact your networkadmins etc. and make sure you get the proper network info if dhcp decides to not work for some reason(as my campus's dhcp always failed) |
| 14:26.14 | stew | grzesio: this is ubuntu? |
| 14:26.14 | grzesio | i conntacted |
| 14:26.22 | MatBoy | valdyn, why was it always kernel-source and is it now linux-source ? |
| 14:26.24 | grzesio | Debian ETCH |
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| 14:26.45 | jetscreamer | they wanted to be different |
| 14:26.47 | stoned | ktwilight, alien works wonderfully |
| 14:26.54 | stew | grzesio: what happens when you run "ping 128.2.2.2"? do you get "64 bytes from..." or "timed out.." |
| 14:26.57 | grzesio | the problem is the is net install and i cannot do anything without apt- get install |
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| 14:27.21 | Maulkin | MatBoy: To allow BSD and other kernels |
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| 14:27.44 | ktwilight | am sure alien does, if not they wouldn't let it out to public. but it just didn't work for me... :/ |
| 14:28.19 | ktwilight | grzesio, it's dhcp not dhc... |
| 14:28.26 | MatBoy | Maulkin, so it's nothing to worrie about ? all manuals (that I made also myself were having kernel :)) |
| 14:28.29 | stoned | grzesio, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:28.39 | grzesio | this is dhcp its mistake only in file |
| 14:28.39 | stew | stoned: he did |
| 14:28.41 | stoned | oh |
| 14:28.46 | ktwilight | haha |
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| 14:28.50 | ktwilight | oh |
| 14:29.03 | stoned | its morning time, excuse me guys |
| 14:29.03 | ktwilight | i dunno 'bout the hotplug bit...it faced out in 2.6? |
| 14:29.45 | stew | ktwilight: no |
| 14:29.45 | Maulkin | ktwilight: It's been replaced by udev |
| 14:29.46 | ktwilight | Soeki, not sure how much this helps. but... http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 14:29.52 | jair | guys, in the debian installer is a way I can tell the system to let me load an external driver? for the scsi raid controller in order to detect the disks for the partitioning stage. |
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| 14:29.58 | ktwilight | oh yea. that's right! udev...haha |
| 14:30.01 | ktwilight | my bad :/ |
| 14:30.04 | Ghostshaw | hello, I've got a problem with X. I have installed x-window-system-core with xorg and openbox and everything works just fine untill i boot X, cause then mys creen goes blank. |
| 14:30.05 | Maulkin | (Though, more precicely, it's been replaced by udev in etch) |
| 14:30.10 | grzesio | Stew: i can ping www.bath.ac.uk |
| 14:30.37 | Maulkin | jair: What sort of driver? |
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| 14:30.45 | stew | grzesio: ok so you don't have a network routing problem but a browser config problem is sounds like. you need to use a web proxy? |
| 14:30.56 | grzesio | yes |
| 14:30.58 | revcowgrl | anyone know howto totally get rid of drm |
| 14:31.02 | Maulkin | jair: you could drop into a shell and manually modprobe it |
| 14:31.08 | stew | Maulkin: he was asking about the allow-hotplug lines in interfaces(5) which aren't being phased out afaik |
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| 14:31.25 | Maulkin | revcowgrl: Don't run Windows? Make it illegal? |
| 14:31.33 | stew | grzesio: you know the proxy address? |
| 14:31.40 | Maulkin | stew: Ahh, fair enough |
| 14:31.48 | grzesio | wwwcache.bath.ac.uk:3128 |
| 14:31.53 | ktwilight | grzesio, were you given a proxy settings for internet? |
| 14:32.02 | revcowgrl | No DRM for linux |
| 14:32.05 | stew | grzesio: if it is apt that you want to configure, man apt.conf |
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| 14:32.33 | revcowgrl | like direct rendering you know |
| 14:32.43 | revcowgrl | x11-drm |
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| 14:33.07 | grzesio | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://wwwcache.bath.ac.uk:3128"; ??? |
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| 14:33.13 | grzesio | this is from my admin |
| 14:33.32 | stoned | haha, reverand cowgirl |
| 14:33.34 | stoned | what a nickname |
| 14:33.55 | grzesio | Our proxies do not require authentication, hence the line you need in /etc/apt/apt.conf is |
| 14:33.56 | Soeki | stoned apt finished installing gnome but it still prompts that it cant find gnome |
| 14:34.15 | stoned | Soeki, that is not good |
| 14:34.16 | grzesio | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://wwwcache.bath.ac.uk:3128" |
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| 14:34.34 | ends | lol @ open proxy |
| 14:34.44 | grzesio | but still i cannot apt-get update |
| 14:34.47 | Maulkin | ends: Could be IP absed |
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| 14:34.55 | eddiecheng | anybody did a chroot installation before ?? |
| 14:34.57 | stoned | Soeki, when it lets you into the little command window, type gnome-panel & |
| 14:34.59 | grzesio | maybe my sources.list is wrong |
| 14:35.01 | grzesio | ??? |
| 14:35.02 | stoned | see if anything happens |
| 14:35.06 | Maulkin | eddiecheng: yes, lots of people |
| 14:35.13 | revcowgrl | stoned: it stands for reverse cowgirl a sexual postition |
| 14:35.18 | eddiecheng | i mean linux over linux |
| 14:35.21 | stoned | oh geez |
| 14:35.25 | eddiecheng | via internet |
| 14:35.32 | stoned | revcowgrl, ok whatever |
| 14:35.37 | Maulkin | !remote install |
| 14:35.37 | dpkg | methinks remote install is Yes, Virginia, you can install Debian remotely via chroot, and some luck. See http://trilldev.sourceforge.net/files/remotedeb.html |
| 14:35.38 | ktwilight | what does your sources.list have? |
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| 14:36.25 | eddiecheng | i bricked my system last time |
| 14:36.27 | stoned | Soeki, try running the apps yourself. I dunno is there a script for gnome like startgnome or gnomestart or something try it, or just gnome-panel & nautilus & etc. |
| 14:36.28 | Soeki | stoned nothing happends |
| 14:36.30 | eddiecheng | i gonna try it again |
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| 14:36.36 | stoned | Soeki, what distro? |
| 14:36.38 | ktwilight | haha |
| 14:36.41 | grzesio | could you give me good sources.list? |
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| 14:36.49 | grzesio | to etch? |
| 14:36.52 | abrotman | !mirrors |
| 14:36.53 | dpkg | somebody said debian mirrors was use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 14:36.54 | Maulkin | grzesio: run apt-setup |
| 14:36.59 | abrotman | Maulkin: no apt-setup in etch |
| 14:37.00 | Soeki | debian sid |
| 14:37.24 | Maulkin | abrotman: Oh, fair enough |
| 14:37.25 | grzesio | i dont have install |
| 14:37.33 | stoned | Soeki, and you didnt' get any dependency problems while installing? |
| 14:37.40 | Soeki | nope |
| 14:37.44 | stoned | strange, past few days kde and gnome depends have been broken |
| 14:37.45 | Soeki | it went all smooth |
| 14:37.48 | charzero | why on earth does kdm requores libcupsys?! |
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| 14:37.54 | stoned | okk cool |
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| 14:37.58 | Soeki | i was being paranoic about it cuz i move to sid from sarge |
| 14:38.06 | Soeki | and i didnt see any. |
| 14:38.09 | MatBoy | when I do a apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 I don't get anything in my /usr/src ? |
| 14:38.17 | Maulkin | charzero: It's KDE. 'nough said |
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| 14:38.22 | stoned | Soeki, you got lucky |
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| 14:38.38 | Maulkin | MatBoy: You may want the source package... |
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| 14:38.39 | Seras | hello :) |
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| 14:39.22 | Sorai | can i read ntfs files with debian? (no writing! just reading and starting a video Oo) |
| 14:39.26 | Maulkin | MatBoy: Eg: linux-source-2.6.16 |
| 14:39.30 | Soeki | stoned now i moved to xdm to test out and i still get the command window |
| 14:39.33 | Maulkin | !ntfs |
| 14:39.33 | dpkg | ntfs is, like, Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
| 14:39.37 | Sorai | ^^, |
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| 14:39.47 | Sorai | thank you. |
| 14:39.47 | stoned | Soeki, so what happens when you login with gdm and type gnome-panel & |
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| 14:40.37 | grzesio | sources.list for ETCH? who help? |
| 14:40.39 | yggdrasi1 | can somone take a look at my xorg problem ?? ... i did an apt-get update and something went wrong. |
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| 14:40.52 | yggdrasi1 | http://yggdrasil.pastebin.com/753560 |
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| 14:40.54 | grzesio | only one entry |
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| 14:41.07 | MatBoy | Maulkin, yes indeed, but what installs the image version of it ? |
| 14:41.18 | grzesio | i ust check my connectin |
| 14:41.18 | rohan | well the yaird errors are confirmed, and no bts entry exists. how do i get the exact error message, from within the initrd ? :S |
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| 14:41.52 | Maulkin | MatBoy: Ahh, you want the source for the debian package? |
| 14:42.07 | Soeki | stoned from xdm i used gnome-www-browser and it fired it up |
| 14:42.19 | MatBoy | Maulkin, I need the source offcourse, but I need a good kernel-config for my Celeron |
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| 14:42.25 | Maulkin | MatBoy: If so, cd wherever; apt-get source <packagename. |
| 14:42.31 | mdup1 | hi! |
| 14:42.33 | MatBoy | Maulkin, the one in the /boot is configured for 486 :S |
| 14:42.39 | Maulkin | s/\./>/ |
| 14:42.54 | Soeki | now.. i did aptitude install gnome-panel and i finnally got some dependencies problems, apt claimed that it could fix them but then nothing was installed. |
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| 14:43.46 | valentino_ | ciao |
| 14:43.46 | agostini | hello |
| 14:43.54 | rohan | hi, agostini |
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| 14:44.42 | agostini | I have a question to make a debian package, where could I find somone to help me ? |
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| 14:44.47 | ktwilight | yggdrasi1, just add # in front of Load "glx" and Load "nvidia" |
| 14:44.54 | ganymed123 | hallo everybody |
| 14:45.00 | friedl | noone here uses wlan? |
| 14:45.00 | maxb | agostini: here? :-) |
| 14:45.05 | madclicker | is kaffeine ever going to make it into etch? |
| 14:45.09 | agostini | cool :) |
| 14:45.14 | ktwilight | grzesio, one is good enough to be int he sources.list |
| 14:45.18 | rohan | agostini: apt-get install maint-guide |
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| 14:45.27 | stew | madclicker: /msg dpkg why is kaffeine not in testing |
| 14:45.38 | agostini | what is the difference between conffile and conffiles ? |
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| 14:45.41 | MatBoy | Maulkin, but what is the best idea to get a good config ? |
| 14:45.43 | ganymed123 | does anybody have experience with reiser4? is it in the official kernel sources? |
| 14:45.50 | maxb | agostini: In what context? |
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| 14:46.08 | gnychis | ganymed123: its in the official kernel sources, and i use it with no problems |
| 14:46.13 | liable | ganymed123: no, but i believe it mat be in mm, search the lkml |
| 14:46.14 | maxb | snarky answer: One's singular, the other is plural! :-) |
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| 14:46.25 | Maulkin | MatBoy: Dunno, I gave up building my own kernels ages ago, I just use the stock ones now. They're clean enough |
| 14:46.34 | liable | gnychis: reiser4 has made it into the source? |
| 14:46.39 | ganymed123 | liable: i have heard a lot of people complaining... any ideas why they would do so? |
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| 14:46.46 | n0x | omg bitchx just showed everybody connected: it lasted about 5seconds! :p |
| 14:46.50 | MatBoy | Maulkin, yes OK, but I need a config... without config... no kernel ;) |
| 14:46.59 | liable | ganymed123: theres quite a drama about it on the mailing list |
| 14:47.10 | n0x | hello btw :)Ã |
| 14:47.19 | agostini | before a dh-make, I put my conf file in debian/install if I use debian/conffiles I have an error with debian/conffile no erroor but no file |
| 14:47.23 | ganymed123 | liable: why? |
| 14:47.25 | Maulkin | MatBoy: couldn't you do make menu_config? |
| 14:47.27 | n0x | uh, how can I reconfigure xorg to change the driver? |
| 14:47.34 | Maulkin | or whatever it is |
| 14:47.34 | liable | ganymed123: read the list |
| 14:47.39 | ganymed123 | liable: on the page they claim it was stable |
| 14:47.44 | liable | !drxx n0x |
| 14:47.45 | dpkg | n0x: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 14:47.46 | ktwilight | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common i think...? |
| 14:47.51 | ktwilight | oops |
| 14:48.01 | stew | agostini: can you show us the exact error you are getting? |
| 14:48.06 | n0x | thanks ;) |
| 14:48.08 | MatBoy | Maulkin, yes offcourse I can, but when you install Sarge... you mostly have what you need already in you existing config so you can use that one |
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| 14:48.25 | liable | ganymed123: there seems to be issues with klaus and the kernel people regarding his coding style, or some shit |
| 14:48.27 | MatBoy | Maulkin, in Etch... damn that is not that way anymore |
| 14:48.33 | liable | it was quite a shitfight |
| 14:48.42 | maxb | agostini: I'm having difficulty understanding what you mean - some punctuation would help! But even more, pastebin-ing some actual errors would explain your problem even better. |
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| 14:49.13 | AlexCTI | Hi, someone can help me my eth0 doenst response, thats my configuration http://pastebin.com/753572 |
| 14:49.48 | agostini | stew: dpkg-deb: conffile `/etc/mail/greylist.conf' does not appear in package |
| 14:49.58 | MatBoy | Maulkin, so I only need the source ? headers also ? |
| 14:50.17 | n0x | ok, that sux ... "No drivers found"? wth? I simpyl updated my distro, what's the big deal? |
| 14:50.21 | agostini | whithout conffiles it works fine |
| 14:50.47 | n0x | !xmd5 n0x |
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| 14:51.04 | liable | n0x: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 14:51.06 | ganymed123 | liable: well, i hope it is in the kernel... i haven't had much success patching mine |
| 14:51.07 | n0x | ok, doesn't work ... |
| 14:51.14 | n0x | oh ok liable , thx |
| 14:51.16 | valdyn | n0x: apt-get install xorg, then try again |
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| 14:51.46 | Maulkin | MatBoy: Not sure |
| 14:51.47 | maxb | agostini: Sounds like the file you are declaring in debian/conffiles is not actually present in the package! |
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| 14:51.59 | MatBoy | Maulkin, me neither :) |
| 14:52.14 | MatBoy | Maulkin, I'm a little bit lost now I'm using CentOS on my servers.. |
| 14:52.17 | grzesio | when i add deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:52.21 | grzesio | is ok? |
| 14:52.38 | grzesio | and deb http://ftp.pl.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free |
| 14:52.55 | agostini | maxb: thx, but it is :( |
| 14:53.22 | grzesio | i need install netselect and after this i can select more |
| 14:53.38 | stew | agostini: what do you have in conffiles? you might want ot remove the leading '/'. but i think you can just omit files from /etc/, those are marked as conffiles automatically (man dh_installdeb) |
| 14:53.39 | agostini | maxb: or do I need to make something else ? |
| 14:53.39 | maxb | agostini: How are you running dpkg-deb? Via debhelper? |
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| 14:54.58 | n0x | valdyn : "xserver-xorg is already the newest version" |
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| 14:55.34 | agostini | maxb: via dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot |
| 14:55.39 | kelt | I was wondering where the server logs are in redhat? |
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| 14:55.54 | liable | kelt: erm, wrong channel dude |
| 14:56.27 | kelt | liable: lol, yeah? well, redhat doesn't seem to have a /var/log/dmesg |
| 14:56.51 | stew | kelt: please go to #redhat or some other more appropriate channel for questions about redhat |
| 14:56.52 | liable | kelt: how the hell would we know? |
| 14:56.59 | n0x | hum, I juist tryied the bots" technique with the md5sum thing and dpkg-reconfigure xfree86 still doesn't do naything :( |
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| 14:57.07 | n0x | but, I mean, _nothing_ at all |
| 14:57.09 | ktwilight | grzesio, more doesn't mean good. just stick to one closest to you |
| 14:57.16 | Maulkin | maxb / agostini: pop along to #debian-mentors for help building packages BTW |
| 14:57.21 | valdyn | n0x: i didnt mention xserver-xorg |
| 14:57.25 | n0x | it's as if you did: "echo -e \n" |
| 14:57.38 | n0x | valdyn , isn't it the same thing? oO |
| 14:57.46 | valdyn | n0x: no |
| 14:57.48 | n0x | just tryied: broken package |
| 14:58.16 | ktwilight | do apt-get -f install ? |
| 14:58.16 | n0x | so what do I do now? |
| 14:58.16 | agostini | Maulkin: thx |
| 14:58.17 | n0x | ok, let me try |
| 14:58.45 | Maulkin | !thx |
| 14:58.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, thx is a convenient internet abbreviation for the general-purpose politeness word "thanks", to be used with caution around defenders of the sanctity of the English language. THX is also sound technology associated with George Lucas. |
| 14:58.51 | n0x | ktwilight , nope doesn't do anything intressting either |
| 14:58.52 | Maulkin | Ahh, ok. |
| 14:58.55 | grzesio | ktwilight: could you give me any examle?i beginner . |
| 14:58.57 | edw | hi, someone now why my apt don't resolv dns and why when I make a ping on the same mirror that's ok ? (sorry for my english.. :c) |
| 14:59.03 | fc | hi from Venezuela, I just install a debian machine using KNOPPIX and i los the sound system... |
| 14:59.11 | grzesio | i must configure this apt |
| 14:59.13 | Maulkin | Gah, an dthat factoid is wrong |
| 14:59.14 | ktwilight | grzesio, what you have is find. it should work fine. |
| 14:59.20 | valdyn | edw: you are probably just interpreting the error wrongly |
| 14:59.21 | stew | fc: please go to #knoppix for questions about knoppix |
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| 14:59.36 | kelt | lol, there is no one in #redhat |
| 14:59.37 | ktwilight | n0x, nopaste the thing that gives you the broken packages thing. |
| 14:59.38 | Soeki | stoned im getting this dependency issue about xlib >= 4.2.1-9 (its not installable) |
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| 15:00.19 | grzesio | this mean that those 2 positio should work? |
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| 15:00.24 | fc | no i did the install with a Knoppix CD but in the setup y set the option for DEBIAN system... |
| 15:00.44 | Maulkin | !no, thx is a convenient internet abbreviation for the general-purpose politeness word "thanks", to be used with caution around defenders of the sanctity of the English language. THX is also a certification programme for sound reproduction associated with George Lucas. |
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| 15:00.50 | AlexCTI | edw, check you file /etc/resolv.conf and see if you have the DNS right |
| 15:00.54 | fc | when the system boot is DEBIAN... |
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| 15:01.16 | ktwilight | yes grzesio |
| 15:01.22 | n0x | Xorg:depends : xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 15:01.23 | edw | valdyn, I havn't error, when my apt begin to download that go on 1.0.0.0 and the same mirror on ping give me the right address |
| 15:01.30 | grzesio | ok i try to check |
| 15:01.36 | edw | AlexCTI, they are good :/ |
| 15:01.44 | stew | fc: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 15:01.45 | n0x | (i just copied that because i can't do I real paste .. no X haha! ) |
| 15:02.12 | Mammut | How can I test that my SWAP is working correct? With free -m I only get Swap: 4769 0(Used) 4769 |
| 15:02.22 | Mammut | Allways 0 on used |
| 15:02.25 | pipeline | Mammut: If none of it is being used, that's good. |
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| 15:02.28 | Maulkin | n0x: Have a look at screen(1), that can do copy/paste in terminals |
| 15:02.29 | ktwilight | that's weird, my xutils is 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 |
| 15:02.45 | ktwilight | obviously there's something wrong... :/ |
| 15:02.50 | Phated | n0x: Try gpm for console copy-paste. |
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| 15:03.27 | stew | !pastewithoutx is also the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
| 15:03.27 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 15:03.37 | fc | how to setup the sound system in debian??? |
| 15:03.47 | stew | fc: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 15:03.55 | Mammut | pipeline, I habe running a programm some needs allways much RAM, and I did a testrunn with only 512 MB Ram and the swap is again 0 |
| 15:04.05 | n0x | ok, thank you for that copy/paste thing ;) |
| 15:04.16 | n0x | anyways, I'm still stuck here haha |
| 15:04.18 | n0x | :p |
| 15:04.31 | n0x | so what am I supposed to do now? |
| 15:04.31 | stew | n0x: you are trying to install xorg r7 in sid? |
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| 15:04.45 | AlexCTI | stew, can you see what is wrong? http://channels.debian.net/paste/2719 thanks |
| 15:04.47 | n0x | i'm in amd64 sorry I forgot to say so .. |
| 15:05.02 | fc | uname -r --> 2.6.12 |
| 15:05.10 | n0x | but i doesn't change anything, or does it? |
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| 15:05.13 | stew | fc: you compiled that kernel yourself? |
| 15:05.16 | d0uglas | when i apt-get remove apache2 (or apache2*), it seems to remove it, but the thing still runs like it's installed even if i kill and restart it |
| 15:05.22 | d0uglas | tried --purging too |
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| 15:05.30 | edw | ok, nobody know ! So good afternoon :') (again sorry for my english) |
| 15:05.33 | Mammut | pipeline, FSTAB: /dev/hda5 swap swap sw 0 0 |
| 15:05.33 | Mammut | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.56 | ganymed123 | so can anybody tell me for sure that reiser4 is in the official, stable 2.6 kernel sources? |
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| 15:06.08 | sepski | Mammut, how can we know if hda5 is your swap or not ? |
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| 15:06.20 | stew | AlexCTI: it looks like you are trying to set more than one default gateway (one for each interface) which would give unpredictable results. does it work when you remove one gateway or the other? |
| 15:06.21 | fc | no I don't , I just install from the Knoppix CD to a new Hard disk |
| 15:06.21 | charzero | I have a cups server on my network. what packages do i need to print to it? |
| 15:06.29 | trc | is there an active debian users group in central or north florida? |
| 15:06.40 | ktwilight | i thought i saw reiserfs when i installed debian 2.6.... |
| 15:06.50 | stew | fc: that isn't a debian kernel, it doesn't appear you are running debian. please go to #knoppix for help with knoppix |
| 15:06.52 | tnks | Hi. I can't find a script for xdm that calls the .Xmodmap file in the users directory. Is it possible this is done by a binary? |
| 15:07.04 | fc | using the option "install like Debian machine" ... |
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| 15:07.17 | Mammut | pipeline, df -T shows tmpfs tmpfs 258236 0 258236 0% /dev/shm |
| 15:07.18 | abrotman | fc: that's not how you install debian |
| 15:07.28 | Maulkin | fc: It's still knoppix. Please go to #knoppix |
| 15:07.34 | fc | ok |
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| 15:07.39 | Mammut | have I hang in instead of swap the /dev/shm ?? |
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| 15:07.50 | pipeline | Mammut: what does swapon -a give you? free -m? |
| 15:08.18 | Mammut | pipeline, total used free shared buffers cached |
| 15:08.19 | Mammut | Mem: 504 497 6 0 28 313 |
| 15:08.19 | Mammut | -/+ buffers/cache: 155 349 |
| 15:08.19 | Mammut | Swap: 4769 0 4769 |
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| 15:08.27 | AlexCTI | stew, so if i want to use the DFGW of eth1 should I put what dfgw on eth1? |
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| 15:08.37 | agostini | Maulkin: anothe place than #debian-mentors ? or somebody have an idea on conffiles ? |
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| 15:08.51 | rage | Is there a way I can display the changes or changelog for a particular package from a shell/using apt? |
| 15:08.58 | n0x | WTF???? argh!!! debian must f*in' kidding!!! |
| 15:09.04 | pipeline | Mammut: if it appears in free -m, then your swap is working. |
| 15:09.08 | mdup1 | Hello! |
| 15:09.14 | Mammut | pipeline, swapon -a says nothing |
| 15:09.19 | n0x | I remove xfree86 with the purge option so it purges _all_ my config files |
| 15:09.27 | stew | AlexCTI: then omit the gateway line from the eth0 definition and "ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0" or "/etc/init.d/networking restart" |
| 15:09.29 | Mammut | pipeline, ok THANKS!!! |
| 15:09.30 | charzero | n0x: yup. |
| 15:09.33 | pipeline | Mammut: it occurs to me that swapon -a *adds* all swap rather than displaying it :P |
| 15:09.40 | LSorensen | rage: links http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/alsa-lib/alsa-lib_1.0.8-3/changelog for example |
| 15:09.48 | n0x | and I reinstall it and it say "setting up xserver-xfree86" and doesn't do crap! nothing! nadad! |
| 15:09.50 | Maulkin | agostini: You can try the -mentors list |
| 15:09.58 | LSorensen | rage: or if it is installed already: zless /usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 15:10.02 | Mammut | :-( |
| 15:10.11 | n0x | no then I try a reocnifugre and same thing! |
| 15:10.12 | n0x | nada! |
| 15:10.16 | rage | LSorensen: thats what I'm after, ta :-) |
| 15:10.21 | n0x | wtfh? argh!!! :@ |
| 15:10.25 | Maulkin | agostini: I'll be back in 5 mins if you hang around in that channel |
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| 15:10.31 | stew | n0x: which package did you purge? |
| 15:10.34 | rage | I noticed a new version of zenity in my last dist-upgrade and I was wondering what had changed |
| 15:10.35 | AlexCTI | OK, i'll do that .. |
| 15:10.37 | MatBoy | Maulkin, I have only set the Processor and the HighMemory-support in the config |
| 15:10.38 | amphi | Mammut: cat /proc/swaps will give you swap info |
| 15:10.40 | agostini | Maulkin: thx |
| 15:10.45 | ganymed123 | is there any live distri that has reiser4 support on-board |
| 15:10.47 | ganymed123 | ? |
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| 15:11.01 | charzero | ganymed123: "on-board" ? |
| 15:11.16 | n0x | stew, i juste purge xfree86 |
| 15:11.21 | Mammut | Filename Type Size Used Priority |
| 15:11.21 | Mammut | /dev/hda5 partition 4883720 0 -1 |
| 15:11.24 | stew | n0x: there is no such package in debian |
| 15:11.35 | n0x | sorry, I meant xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:11.37 | ganymed123 | charzero: that has mkfs.reiser4 and that actually works... |
| 15:11.40 | Mammut | pipeline, ok, the it works maybe |
| 15:11.54 | Mammut | but the programm is perhaps so smart and dont use it |
| 15:12.01 | neoxan_ | eichwei! |
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| 15:12.06 | n0x | anyways, I just moved /etc/X11 to /etc/X11__ and same thing! it doesn't do crap when I remove and reinstall |
| 15:12.07 | mdup1 | i have a question on that configuration of the network with debian testing ! |
| 15:12.17 | stew | n0x: what does "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" say? |
| 15:12.20 | charzero | ganymed123: the debian netinst does. |
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| 15:12.35 | ganymed123 | charzero: well, i need a live-cd |
| 15:12.43 | charzero | ganymed123: iirc knoppix 4 does. |
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| 15:13.05 | ganymed123 | charzero: thx |
| 15:13.07 | mdup1 | why my configuration of the net work do not remains at reboot! |
| 15:13.14 | tomsa | Hello, I need an application to graphically see the memory usage of processus. Does anybody known an application for doing that ? |
| 15:13.32 | pollywog | I want to have my router start logging and I want a Debian system to accept the logs, how do I get the Debian system to do that? |
| 15:13.37 | sahadev | hello, i am running 'testing' (upgraded from stable). when i start firefox i get 'segmentation fault'. the stact trace shows "#0 0xb7de2508 in raise () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0" and a bunch of hex addresses "in ??". any idea what this is about? |
| 15:13.47 | n0x | stew, it say they are identical |
| 15:13.59 | n0x | so i don't get the joke :p |
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| 15:14.50 | stew | n0x: wait a sec. weren't you just asking about installing xorg in sid? now you are asking about xfree? which version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:16.29 | mlehrer | what is the easiest way to blank a dvd-rw? i am getting this: :-! "COMMAND SEQUENCE ERROR"@LBA=0h. Is media being read? |
| 15:16.32 | mlehrer | :-! the LUN appears to be stuck at 0h, retrying in 5 secs... |
| 15:17.22 | abrotman | i use a magnet :) |
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| 15:18.19 | n0x | stew, I'm running debian 3.1 for amd64-s and so I installed xorg 20minutes ago when I was actually running under x but with Xfree86. But I want to "move" to xorg because it support _real_ transparancy and I think it's pretty cool, as specially under e17 but I guess these two pakages conflict when I try a startx. anyways, the problem now is that when I try to start X, the programme return "no drivers found 'nv'" (i have an nvidia card) |
| 15:18.58 | ganymed123 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.17 | neoxan_ | eichwei! |
| 15:19.29 | charzero | ganymed123: I installed debian with a reiserfs root partition. |
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| 15:19.54 | LSorensen | charzero: why? |
| 15:19.55 | mdup1 | why my configuration of the network do not remains at the reboot of the sarge ? |
| 15:19.57 | stew | n0x: please put the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy x11-common xfree86-common xserver-xorg xserver-xfree86" into a pastebin |
| 15:20.00 | charzero | LSorensen: why not? |
| 15:20.08 | LSorensen | carnil: reiserfs is too unstable |
| 15:20.11 | LSorensen | er charzero |
| 15:20.14 | pollywog | charzero: reiserfs can be bad |
| 15:20.18 | ktwilight | mdup1, is it saved in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 15:20.25 | pollywog | I have suffered data loss several times |
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| 15:20.35 | ganymed123 | charzero: well, me too. that's hard enough as the standard kernel does not come with the module compiled into the kernel. but i mean reiser4. seems, the modules is not here at all... |
| 15:20.37 | pollywog | 4 times in 3 yrs I think |
| 15:20.50 | mdup1 | ktwiligth: yes! |
| 15:21.08 | charzero | pollywog: i'm not using it on servers. and i back up often. |
| 15:21.20 | stew | n0x: and add libc6 after xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:21.38 | cahoot | charzero: do see any benfit? |
| 15:21.44 | cahoot | benefit |
| 15:21.49 | ktwilight | mdup1, what does dmesg say when it loads up the network interface? |
| 15:21.55 | charzero | cahoot: tons of benefit over ext2. i have not used ext3 though. |
| 15:22.20 | mdup1 | it says fails! |
| 15:22.29 | tomsa | Hello, I need an application to graphically see the memory usage of running processus. Does anybody know an application to do that ? |
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| 15:22.35 | ktwilight | something wrong with your /etc/network/interfaces i think... |
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| 15:22.55 | n0x | stew, ugh, ok, but can you guys tell how to actually copy and paste because I'm a bit in a rush and don't have time to read the screen man page ... |
| 15:23.09 | ktwilight | mdup1 paste it here http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 15:23.18 | stew | !pastewithoutx |
| 15:23.19 | dpkg | it has been said that pastewithoutx is you can install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console like drag to select and middle click to insert the selection ; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://channels.debian.net/paste ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste |
| 15:23.21 | n0x | plus I only have two terms and I can't seem to figure out how to open another one with getty =/ |
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| 15:23.37 | charzero | ganymed123: i used the netinst cd and didn't have a problem. i didn't do anything special. |
| 15:23.42 | ganymed123 | so the debian-installer knows reiserfs (and there is the module) but not reiser4... any ideas how to "after load" a module or to make it simply install on a reiser 4 partition? |
| 15:24.06 | n0x | ok, great, thank you ;) |
| 15:24.08 | charzero | ganymed123: oh. i have reiserfs, n ot reiser4. sorry. |
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| 15:24.12 | Blissex | ganymed123: no. |
| 15:24.14 | panthera | ganymed123: not trivial, you would have to modify d-i |
| 15:24.24 | mdup1 | thank you but i work with linspire now! |
| 15:24.25 | budman | aNYoNe HeRe CouLD TeLL Me WHY WeBMiN WoNT LeT Me iN aFTeR i iNSTaLeD VHCS ? |
| 15:24.25 | stew | n0x: at least just tell me this: when you run "apt-cache policy libc6" what does it say for "Installed:"? |
| 15:24.29 | panthera | ganymed123: you better use ext3 or xfs anyways. |
| 15:24.38 | LSorensen | ganymed123: which kernel supports reiserfs4? |
| 15:24.44 | ganymed123 | what do you have against reiserfs |
| 15:24.46 | ganymed123 | ? |
| 15:24.51 | LSorensen | ganymed123: only thing I see is reports of bugs on lkml about reiserfs4 |
| 15:24.57 | panthera | ganymed123: nothing, but it is not in linux upstream |
| 15:25.03 | panthera | ganymed123: therefore it is not in the debian kernel. |
| 15:25.05 | LSorensen | ganymed123: I don't like data corruption and data loss, and that is what reiserfs has done to me |
| 15:25.07 | hjubal | hi |
| 15:25.10 | neoxan_ | you're so uncool grannies spit in your face |
| 15:25.13 | pollywog | ganymed123: I have nothing against it when I occasionally want to lose my data |
| 15:25.17 | neoxan_ | what does spit mean? |
| 15:25.25 | panthera | pollywog: it's even faster then rm :) |
| 15:25.28 | cahoot | ganymed123: I think you need a -mm kernel for resier4 |
| 15:25.30 | ganymed123 | well, i could install on any fs whatsoever, and then copy the data of each partition, create the reiser fs and copy the stuff back... puh |
| 15:25.51 | LSorensen | ganymed123: probably have to since there is no debian kernel with reiserfs4 support |
| 15:25.52 | panthera | ganymed123: either that, or modifying d-i and remastering the installation cd. |
| 15:25.56 | charzero | LSorensen: is reiserfs 3 safe to use? |
| 15:25.59 | pollywog | neoxan: it is the same as expectorate I think |
| 15:26.00 | LSorensen | ganymed123: you would have to make your own experimental kernel |
| 15:26.04 | LSorensen | charzero: not in my experience |
| 15:26.14 | n0x | ugh, just installed gmp, what type of mouse should i slect because mine is a usb =/ |
| 15:26.14 | panthera | ganymed123: but the copy method will be faster. |
| 15:27.09 | ganymed123 | i could patch a stable kernel |
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| 15:27.27 | n0x | never mind ;) |
| 15:27.45 | bobw | how can I cut every line of a text file that contains the characters "--" |
| 15:27.49 | n0x | it works haha :D |
| 15:27.51 | ganymed123 | well i haven't had data corruption with reiserfs3, just ones, and that was due to initng and no proper scripts, i think |
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| 15:28.16 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 15:28.16 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 15:29.05 | tomsa | Hello, I need an application to graphically see (I mean using X) the memory usage of running processus. Does anybody know an application to do that ? |
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| 15:31.26 | thingfish | tomsa: apt-cache search graphical | grep -i process |
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| 15:34.28 | n0x | x11-common: |
| 15:34.28 | n0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.29 | n0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.29 | n0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.29 | n0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.29 | n0x | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:34.33 | bobw | how can I cut every line of a text file that contains the characters "--" |
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| 15:35.43 | initiate | Hi,how do I change my ip adress? |
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| 15:35.54 | ktwilight | bobw, depends on the editor that you're using. best to check with help file or man pages. |
| 15:35.54 | stew | !tell n0x about paster |
| 15:35.55 | n0x | hi, it's me again |
| 15:36.01 | n0x | sorry about that |
| 15:36.04 | stew | n0x: you aren't running 3.1 aka stable, you are running unstable |
| 15:36.04 | initiate | I editted /etc/network/interfaces ,but now it's not working |
| 15:36.05 | n0x | i tryied to paste the linjk |
| 15:36.12 | n0x | but I guess i didn't copy it ocrrectly |
| 15:36.13 | n0x | =/ |
| 15:36.23 | n0x | stew, yes, I know |
| 15:36.31 | bobw | ktwilight, using vi |
| 15:36.38 | n0x | ugh, anyways, my paste number is 2720 |
| 15:36.41 | stew | 11:22 <n0x> stew, I'm running debian 3.1 for amd64-s... |
| 15:37.08 | n0x | so that should be http://channels.debian.org/paste/2720 (i guess...) |
| 15:37.35 | n0x | stew, ok, so ... urgh... sorry |
| 15:37.37 | stew | so stop messing with xfree86, you don't have it installed, all you have are the dummy packages which are there to upgrade you to xorg |
| 15:37.38 | ktwilight | bobw, google.com/search?q=man+vi+editor |
| 15:37.39 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 15:37.58 | Soeki | rofl http://www.jmusheneaux.com/JOBS/BILL%20GATES%20NEWSWEEK.jpg |
| 15:38.01 | n0x | ok, so what am I supposed to modify then? |
| 15:38.02 | stew | n0x: apt-get install xorg |
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| 15:38.15 | ktwilight | never knew 'bout freemind...reminds me of mindmanager.... |
| 15:38.21 | ktwilight | great app :D |
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| 15:38.22 | stew | n0x: its quite possible, also, that xorg isn't all there for amd64, i don't know |
| 15:38.29 | n0x | xorg: Depends: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 15:38.31 | n0x | =/ |
| 15:38.48 | initiate | Any idea how to change my IP adress? |
| 15:38.50 | stew | n0x: apt-get install xorg xutils |
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| 15:39.08 | initiate | besides editing /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:39.24 | Soeki | initiate ifconfig |
| 15:39.26 | stew | initiate: what is wrong with editing /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 15:39.29 | n0x | well, until I upgraded and since about last august, i've been running under xfree86 |
| 15:39.50 | n0x | xutils: Depends: x11-common (>= 6.8.1) but it is not going to be installed |
| 15:39.51 | n0x | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.10 | n0x | and tons of other dependicies for xorg aren't meat either |
| 15:40.12 | initiate | stew,I tried that,but I`m not sure what to put for network and broadcast |
| 15:40.20 | stew | initiate: omit those |
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| 15:40.25 | n0x | ( 13 other ones) |
| 15:40.29 | stew | n0x: apt-get install xorg xutils x11-common libfs6 |
| 15:40.31 | ktwilight | initiate, just use dhcp instead of static. |
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| 15:40.54 | stew | n0x: keep piling them on until you find a root cause. also check http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 15:40.59 | initiate | ktwilight,I`m not sure what's dhcp and how to use it |
| 15:41.05 | stew | n0x: and you might wanna ask #debian-amd64 |
| 15:41.16 | ktwilight | uh...i dunno how to explain it either... :/ |
| 15:41.42 | ktwilight | all i know is, settin' to dhcp would mean everything is automated. |
| 15:41.51 | initiate | ktwilight,I just bought a real static IP adress and want to change my old static local IP to the new adress |
| 15:41.54 | stew | initiate: you only need to specify network and broadcast if you are doing something non-standard and really know what you are doing |
| 15:42.05 | n0x | darn ... |
| 15:42.16 | n0x | ok stew, will do so |
| 15:42.24 | n0x | thank for the effort pal ;) |
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| 15:43.01 | initiate | stew,is there any command I can run so the debian would ask me for everything I need and fill the rest automatically ... like what I had to do in the beginning of my debian online install |
| 15:43.19 | stew | initiate: you could try etherconf |
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| 15:43.29 | initiate | thanks stew |
| 15:44.08 | initiate | umm .. command not found |
| 15:44.11 | initiate | :o |
| 15:44.21 | stew | initiate: install it |
| 15:44.27 | initiate | kk |
| 15:44.57 | initiate | oh lol |
| 15:45.02 | initiate | I don't have internet now ;P |
| 15:45.11 | stew | yeah, chicken, meet egg |
| 15:45.13 | initiate | apt-get isn't actually working |
| 15:45.25 | initiate | haha |
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| 15:45.31 | ktwilight | ya can always download it from packages.debian.org initiate :) |
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| 15:45.53 | stew | ktwilight: not without a working network he can't |
| 15:45.55 | ktwilight | Q, when i dpkg -l, there's a package that has a iB next to it. does that mean it's installed and broken? |
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| 15:46.12 | ktwilight | tha'ts true... :/ |
| 15:46.49 | initiate | ifconfig only shows my settings,doesn't allow me to change stuff |
| 15:46.51 | initiate | :s |
| 15:47.08 | ktwilight | am sure you can change it in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 15:47.32 | ricky_clarkson | ifconfig allows you to change things, but yes, there are more permanent ways of doing it. |
| 15:47.48 | initiate | ktwilight,I suppose so,but not sure what should I put |
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| 15:48.07 | initiate | auto eth0 or eth1? |
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| 15:48.42 | ktwilight | if you would to paste your config file, maybe someone would be willin' to help you out? |
| 15:49.12 | initiate | That would take a while since I`m not on the same comp |
| 15:49.27 | initiate | afk for now ... got stuff to do in the house too |
| 15:49.43 | ktwilight | well...time is everyone's enemy...so... :) |
| 15:50.01 | ganymed123 | ciao |
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| 15:55.41 | benluo | hi |
| 15:55.41 | benluo | how to install debian on to usb stick? |
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| 15:56.42 | Sorai | well.. hello :) |
| 15:56.58 | Sorai | !nvidia |
| 15:56.59 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
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| 15:57.15 | ktwilight | benluo, debian-administration.org is your friend. particularly article number 179 |
| 15:57.35 | benluo | ktwilight: i found it |
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| 15:57.53 | benluo | i just want to know is there some easier way to install |
| 15:57.54 | Sorai | !nvidia installler |
| 15:57.58 | Sorai | !nvidia installer |
| 15:57.58 | dpkg | [nvidia-installer] a clever cross-platform way of installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, which works fine on systems with stupid package managers (i.e. not so good with Debian). more specifically, prone to dying if any X or kernel related packages are upgraded or removed. see <nvidia-graphics-drivers>, or <nvidia one-liner> |
| 15:58.15 | ktwilight | tried wiki.debian.org? |
| 15:58.22 | ktwilight | maybe htey have other docs there |
| 15:58.32 | Shadowcat | Sorai: /msg the bot |
| 15:58.41 | Shadowcat | stop flooding the channel |
| 15:58.44 | Sorai | :p |
| 15:58.46 | Sorai | ok ok |
| 15:58.50 | Shadowcat | !whack Sorai |
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| 15:59.05 | cahoot | apropos flooding the channel |
| 15:59.05 | keith80403 | Who maintains the knowledge base for the dpkg bot? dpkg is really an amazing piece of software. |
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| 15:59.25 | matthew | hi, what is the syntax for setting up ssh tunnel with ssh? ssh -L remotehost ? |
| 15:59.42 | thingfish | dpkg, who owns you? |
| 15:59.42 | Shadowcat | matthew: man ssh |
| 15:59.42 | dpkg | dondelelcaro does |
| 15:59.50 | lastnode | anybody know where the debconf6 videos are? |
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| 16:00.04 | matthew | Shadowcat, did that. |
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| 16:01.04 | matthew | Shadowcat, so what is it? |
| 16:01.05 | keith80403 | thingfish, Do you know whether the source and KB for dpkg is available for mortals? |
| 16:01.09 | jetblack101 | how do I mount a 2 disk raid0, using mdadm w/o a config |
| 16:01.10 | ktwilight | hmmm...i have a bunch of broken packages, reinstallation doesn't help. is there something that i'm missing? searching gives me nothing... :/ |
| 16:01.16 | thingfish | keith80403: no, I don't know that. |
| 16:01.40 | keith80403 | thingfish, That's fine, thanks for your info. |
| 16:01.45 | thingfish | np |
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| 16:01.58 | keith80403 | dpkg, are you available for download? |
| 16:02.24 | ktwilight | and dpkg doesn't seem to agree with aptitude... :/ i thought aptitude sits on top of dpkg...no? |
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| 16:02.49 | abrotman | !tell keith80403 about your factoids |
| 16:02.52 | abrotman | !tell keith80403 about blootbot |
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| 16:02.58 | pjz | what's the name of the package that makes fake packages? |
| 16:02.59 | blondie | !tell abrotman about moo |
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| 16:03.07 | abrotman | !tell blondie about cookie |
| 16:03.15 | abrotman | !tell blondie about cookie abrotman |
| 16:03.17 | abrotman | eh .. dunno |
| 16:03.27 | abrotman | !tell pjz about equivs |
| 16:03.28 | keith80403 | abrotman, Very good, I'll check that stuff out - thanks. |
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| 16:04.08 | blondie | abrotman: are you the cookie monster? |
| 16:04.52 | pjz | abrotman: thanks |
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| 16:05.00 | meriad | the problem with mcdonalds isnt the ingestion |
| 16:05.02 | meriad | its the digestion |
| 16:05.10 | overnout | :P |
| 16:05.23 | Sorai | i hate it. |
| 16:05.27 | overnout | mee to |
| 16:05.28 | meriad | Sorai- even the taste? |
| 16:05.38 | broadcaster | does anybody know a debian-net-install image (or how to create one) which uses JFFS2 as filesystem? i would like to install linux on a flash drive... |
| 16:05.58 | Shadowcat | but I'm not gonna give you a tutorial |
| 16:06.07 | Blissex | broadcaster: perhaps look at the emDebian stuff... |
| 16:06.09 | Sorai | mmmh the taste? well maybe |
| 16:06.10 | Shadowcat | !tell broadcaster aboutcustom debian cd |
| 16:06.23 | Shadowcat | !tell broadcaster about custom debian cd |
| 16:06.31 | meriad | broadcaster-i thought you were talking bout openwrt :) |
| 16:06.37 | Shadowcat | !tell broadcaster about custom cd |
| 16:06.48 | Sorai | i just don't like the non-easy-installing ways for nvidia.. |
| 16:06.52 | matthew | Shadowcat, i don't know how to interpet "[-L port:host:hostport]" in the ssh man |
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| 16:07.32 | broadcaster | meriad: i know openwrt very well, but i can't use it on my old laptop... :-) |
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| 16:07.35 | stew | matthew: port = port on your box, host = host that the local port will be forwarded to, and hostport is the port onthe remote host that will be forwarded to |
| 16:08.42 | stew | matthew: so for instance, if you use -L 8080:google.com:80 you will see google when you browse to localhost:8080 |
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| 16:09.18 | j00ls | hello |
| 16:09.44 | j00ls | where do I go to get help with packages ? |
| 16:09.53 | Shadowcat | !tell j00ls about ask |
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| 16:11.04 | j00ls | ask: I have a problem with the package "webmin" it seems its not available anymore ? I either need an alternative management tool or info on why its not supported anymore ? |
| 16:11.41 | j00ls | apt quote: Package webmin is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 16:11.42 | apt | j00ls: okay |
| 16:11.42 | j00ls | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 16:11.42 | j00ls | is only available from another source |
| 16:11.59 | stew | apt: forget quote: Package webmin |
| 16:11.59 | apt | stew: i forgot quote: package webmin |
| 16:12.04 | Shadowcat | sigh |
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| 16:12.19 | j00ls | ? |
| 16:12.23 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 16:12.23 | dpkg | [webmin] a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 16:12.24 | j00ls | apt-get install package webmin ? |
| 16:12.28 | stew | j00ls: it was removed becuase it was often broken and nobody was interested in maintaining it for over a year |
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| 16:12.37 | j00ls | ah ok |
| 16:12.38 | valdyn | j00ls: webmin is orphaned |
| 16:12.47 | j00ls | last time i used it was 3 years ago :P |
| 16:12.47 | stew | not orphaned but removed completely |
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| 16:13.00 | valdyn | stew: ok, both! |
| 16:13.00 | j00ls | is there any similar alternative tool that is safe ? |
| 16:13.14 | stew | it was orphaned for over a year but nobody even showed interested in adopting it |
| 16:13.41 | valdyn | j00ls: vi |
| 16:13.43 | stew | it there was a tool that was safe it wouldn't be similar :) |
| 16:13.50 | j00ls | lol |
| 16:14.12 | stew | where was some *isp* package or somethuing |
| 16:14.15 | j00ls | i know i can do it all by hand but vi is not an alternative |
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| 16:14.52 | j00ls | ok, thx for the info |
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| 16:15.55 | j00ls | someone should remove it from the packages list on debian.org btw... |
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| 16:17.00 | matthew | thanks stew |
| 16:17.13 | valdyn | j00ls: eh? |
| 16:17.14 | matthew | exit |
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| 16:17.23 | valdyn | j00ls: maybe you searched sarge |
| 16:17.49 | stew | !depends webmin-ldap-netgroups |
| 16:17.56 | dpkg | webmin-ldap-netgroups: depends on webmin, perl, libnet-ldap-perl, libio-socket-ssl-perl, libstorable-perl, libdigest-md5-perl |
| 16:18.01 | jetblack101 | when I do lvdisplay all my logical volumes show up as inactive. Does anyone know how i can activate them and then mount them |
| 16:18.13 | stew | that should probably be marked for removal |
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| 16:19.32 | stew | looks like ganeff is aware anyway |
| 16:20.41 | stew | ricky_clarkson: aloha, how is your ipw220? |
| 16:21.15 | ricky_clarkson | It's working well. |
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| 16:21.20 | ricky_clarkson | Albeit from the wrong operating system. |
| 16:21.37 | amphi | stew: mine is working ok under debian, FWIW |
| 16:21.44 | stew | so is mine |
| 16:22.03 | ricky_clarkson | stew: I finally got 2.6 going, and fixed grub so that it wasn't booting from /dev/hda but /dev/sda, then had to do some other stuff. |
| 16:22.34 | ricky_clarkson | stew: I start DJing tomorrow night, need to download a load of music, and I know that'll work with less fuss in Windows. |
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| 16:24.24 | ticc | hi there. I would like to delete just one dependecy in a deb package. I manage to decompress the package and edit the file "control". However i don't know how to package it back :/ |
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| 16:24.54 | musashiden | is there any premade package of kernel 2.6.9? |
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| 16:25.19 | hackeron | is there an image file somewhere I can DD to a USB flash key of Debian? |
| 16:25.35 | ricky_clarkson | hackeron: Maybe the businesscard image. |
| 16:25.37 | rvsjoen | ticc: dpkg-buildpackage ? |
| 16:25.47 | Shadowcat | why doesn't anyone read the documentation around here |
| 16:25.50 | ticc | rvsjoen thx |
| 16:25.52 | Shadowcat | hackeron: READ the installer documentation |
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| 16:26.04 | musashiden | anybody? |
| 16:26.06 | ricky_clarkson | Shadowcat: Because it's never in front of you when you want it. |
| 16:26.10 | stew | musashiden: there used to be in etch/sid but they have been removed, they are now up to 2.6.15 and 2.6.15, what version of debian are you running? and why do you want 2.6.9 instead of something newer? |
| 16:26.22 | Shadowcat | ricky_clarkson: you have fingers and a browser, use them |
| 16:26.23 | stew | errr 2.6.15 and 2.6.16 |
| 16:26.24 | ricky_clarkson | Shadowcat: I found today that most of the grub documentation is in menu.lst rather than in the manpages.. |
| 16:26.37 | Shadowcat | the grub documentation is in info grub |
| 16:26.44 | musashiden | stew: i would like a kernel newer than 2.6.9 |
| 16:26.47 | ricky_clarkson | I don't have 'info grub' (sarge). |
| 16:26.51 | stew | musashiden: what version of debian? |
| 16:26.53 | broadcaster | with kernel 2.6.16 (as well as the last rc of 2.6.17) i cannot choose channels 12,13,14 with my ipw2200 card. is that a driver limitation? |
| 16:26.58 | musashiden | stew: sarge |
| 16:27.06 | amphi | ricky_clarkson: you need to install grub-doc perhaps |
| 16:27.17 | Shadowcat | !info grub-doc |
| 16:27.18 | ricky_clarkson | amphi: Possibly. I'm unsure why it's not there already. |
| 16:27.18 | stew | musashiden: install 2.6.16 from backports: http://backports.org/instructions.html and /msg dpkg backports |
| 16:27.20 | dpkg | grub-doc: (Documentation for GRand Unified Bootloader), section doc, is optional. Version: 0.97-9.1 (sid), Packaged size: 262 kB, Installed size: 924 kB |
| 16:27.21 | cahoot | Shadowcat: so what would be the legitimate use of this channel then? |
| 16:27.31 | MoDaX | broadcaster: wrong country? |
| 16:27.32 | hackeron | Shadowcat: hmm, so Debian will allow me to install debian onto a USB flash key? |
| 16:27.34 | amphi | broadcaster: yeah, you need to edit the src to enable those IIRC |
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| 16:27.45 | stew | !usb-install |
| 16:27.45 | Shadowcat | hackeron: read the installer documentation |
| 16:27.45 | dpkg | i heard usb-install is Yes, it is possible to boot Debian (sarge) from a USB stick (commonly referred to as a thumbdrive or usb key, among others) as long as your computer BIOS can boot from usb: http://d-i.pascal.at/ |
| 16:27.46 | hackeron | Shadowcat: then I just need the boot.img? |
| 16:27.50 | hackeron | Shadowcat: I am |
| 16:27.58 | broadcaster | MoDaX: where is the country set? |
| 16:28.03 | stew | hackeron: see what dpkg said, but i don't know if that info is still current |
| 16:28.10 | amphi | broadcaster: did you build the driver yourself? |
| 16:28.14 | broadcaster | amphi: i searched he source... - any hints? |
| 16:28.19 | rvsjoen | 2.6.16-14 is the latest I think ? |
| 16:28.28 | broadcaster | amphi: no, took the one from the kernel |
| 16:28.31 | Shadowcat | hackeron: are you installing TO or FROM? |
| 16:28.33 | musashiden | stew: cant i get the latest kernel trough apt-get install? |
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| 16:28.41 | hackeron | stew: err, it says installing from - I want to install to |
| 16:28.45 | hackeron | Shadowcat: to |
| 16:28.46 | stew | musashiden: yeah, what cpu do you have? |
| 16:28.49 | Shadowcat | because if you are installing TO you might be better served with some knoppix version adapted to be run from a USB stick |
| 16:29.00 | EvilDin | am is there possible to upgrade sarge kernel from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 16:29.04 | Shadowcat | if you're installing FROM it's in the installer documentation |
| 16:29.09 | musashiden | stew: dual xeon |
| 16:29.12 | MoDaX | !find linux-2.6.16-2-686 unstable |
| 16:29.28 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'linux-2.6.16-2-686' returned no results. |
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| 16:29.34 | morten | could someone help me set up the TRN news client? i can't figure out how to make it connect to my news server. |
| 16:29.45 | stew | musashiden: then yeah, after you follow http://backports.org/instructions.html you should be able to "apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686-smp" |
| 16:29.49 | amphi | broadcaster: grep the source for 'GEO' |
| 16:29.50 | MoDaX | !find linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 unstable |
| 16:29.52 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'linux-image-2.6.16-2-686' (2): linux-image-2.6.16-2-686 ;; linux-image-2.6.16-2-686-smp. |
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| 16:30.01 | MoDaX | heh |
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| 16:30.10 | stew | musashiden: err "apt-get install -t sarge-backports linux-image-2.6-686-smp" rather |
| 16:30.11 | amphi | broadcaster: there has also been some discussion of this from time to time on the list |
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| 16:30.39 | EvilDin | !find linux-image-2.4 |
| 16:30.41 | hackeron | Shadowcat: I'm installing to, hmm, what's that knoppix version? |
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| 16:30.51 | Thumann | hi all.. anyone here tried to install debian using debootstrap? with chrooting and all that jazz |
| 16:30.52 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'linux-image-2.4' (1): (/usr/lib/fai/kernel/linux-image-2.4.27-fai-kernels_1_i386.deb) in admin/fai-kernels. |
| 16:30.53 | Shadowcat | hackeron: no clue, you'll ahve to google that |
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| 16:31.09 | EvilDin | !find linux-image-2.4 |
| 16:31.12 | PhnX | ae galera |
| 16:31.19 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'linux-image-2.4' (1): (/usr/lib/fai/kernel/linux-image-2.4.27-fai-kernels_1_i386.deb) in admin/fai-kernels. |
| 16:31.21 | stew | hackeron: afaik, a usb key should just look like any other hd to the installer |
| 16:31.28 | morten | can someone tell me how to set up news server for the TRN news client? |
| 16:31.40 | Thumann | hi all.. anyone here tried to install debian using debootstrap? with chrooting and all that jazz |
| 16:31.51 | hackeron | stew: it doesn't for sarge :( |
| 16:31.55 | stew | Thumann: many people, if you have a real question, just ask |
| 16:32.12 | Gnea | !2.4->2.6 |
| 16:32.12 | dpkg | 2.4->2.6 is probably easy - just "apt-cache search kernel-image 2.6" (linux-image in etch and sid, use your favorite apt front-end) and install the relevant package for your CPU(s). |
| 16:32.12 | stew | hackeron: make sure the usb-storage and sd-mod kernel modules are loaded |
| 16:32.13 | PhnX | speak portuguese ? |
| 16:32.22 | Gnea | !br |
| 16:32.22 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 16:32.25 | broadcaster | amphi: thanxalot |
| 16:32.34 | Thumann | stew: i'm trying to configure grub, but i get an error when i try to setup (hd0) |
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| 16:32.42 | stew | !2.4->2.6 is also ask me about <sarge upgrade kernel> or <etch upgrade kernel> |
| 16:32.42 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 16:32.53 | stew | Thumann: what error? |
| 16:32.59 | Gnea | !beer stew |
| 16:33.15 | Jamie | Hello |
| 16:33.17 | Thumann | "Attempt to access block outside partition" |
| 16:33.18 | musashiden | stew: if my machine is a dual xeon, should i install 686? |
| 16:33.18 | Thumann | :X |
| 16:33.38 | stew | musashiden: yes, -686-smp if you don't have -smp it will only use one cpu |
| 16:33.42 | Jamie | Can anyone direct me to documentation on "mending" my hotplug config wiht 2.6.10 -> 2.6.16 |
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| 16:33.55 | morten | hey guys. i'm struggling here. i've been trying to figure out how to configure TRN to connect to my news server. so far, no dice. can anyone help me out? |
| 16:33.57 | EvilDin | why my debian doesn't want to connect to ftp.si.debian.org for packages, when using apt-get |
| 16:34.03 | Gnea | !tell Jamie about udev |
| 16:34.37 | EvilDin | it simple say that cannot resolve the host |
| 16:34.40 | stew | Jamie: what exactly is the problem you are experiencing? |
| 16:34.46 | Gnea | ftp.si.debian.org has address 164.8.6.249 |
| 16:34.49 | EvilDin | yes |
| 16:34.52 | morten | EvilDin: did you try to ping it? |
| 16:34.52 | Gnea | EvilDin: your dns is hosed |
| 16:34.56 | musashiden | erm, installing the new kernel is going to remove grub, should i continue? |
| 16:34.57 | nowhere_man | hi everyone |
| 16:35.08 | stew | EvilDin: what happens when you type "host ftp.si.debian.org" at a prompt? |
| 16:35.08 | EvilDin | if i ping host doesn't work if i ping ip it works |
| 16:35.13 | Gnea | musashiden: why would it? |
| 16:35.25 | musashiden | it just is. i dont know why |
| 16:35.26 | stew | EvilDin: sounds like your dns is broken, man resolv.conf |
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| 16:35.29 | hackeron | stew: hmm, found this: http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=USBFlashMedia - looks like it isn't so trivial |
| 16:35.33 | musashiden | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 16:35.33 | musashiden | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.38 | nowhere_man | I'm looking for help with Apache 2 and SSL |
| 16:35.42 | Gnea | musashiden: so reinstall it |
| 16:35.47 | musashiden | ok |
| 16:35.49 | stew | musashiden: no, that's bad, what exact command did you type? |
| 16:35.50 | Gnea | nowhere_man: #apache |
| 16:35.51 | Jamie | stew: the problem is that I had it all set up properly, I think using hotplug, but that package is incompatable with 2.6.16 |
| 16:35.55 | morten | i'd feel naked without grub :( |
| 16:35.55 | nowhere_man | thanks |
| 16:36.06 | Gnea | i'd feel empty without grub |
| 16:36.07 | Jamie | stew: I just can't find any relivant documentation |
| 16:36.10 | Gnea | *BURP* |
| 16:36.17 | Jamie | Gnea: thanks but I'd already seen that page |
| 16:36.23 | morten | guys. i need some help figuring out how to set up news servers for TRN. can anyone help me? |
| 16:36.33 | Gnea | Jamie: oh, i didn't know. what's the problem, exactly? |
| 16:36.36 | stew | musashiden: the newer kernel needs a newet grub, so you might need to "apt-get install -t sarge-backports grub linux-image-2.6-686-smp" to specify that it gets upgraded too |
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| 16:36.56 | Jamie | Gnea: I'm looking for a more helpful page basically :) |
| 16:36.56 | stew | Jamie: what makes you say the package is incompatible? |
| 16:37.03 | musashiden | stew: before or after i install the new kernel? |
| 16:37.11 | Jamie | when I try apt-get install hotplug |
| 16:37.15 | Jamie | stew: when I try apt-get install hotplug |
| 16:37.15 | Gnea | Jamie: that's a pretty vague question, that page is pretty detailed :) |
| 16:37.17 | EvilDin | yes probably happen because of upgrade of kernel 2.4.27-2 to 2.4.27-3 |
| 16:37.31 | calmonkey | I got a newbie question, when they say editing the ~/.emacs file, where exactly is its location? |
| 16:37.33 | Jamie | stew: it tells me it'll remove kernel 2.6.17 |
| 16:37.51 | Thumann | okay.. i booted up on a ubuntu disk.. installed dmraid, configured my fake raid.. partitioned it.. debootstrapped it with sarge.. started to install stuff.. but i'm stuck at making the system bootable.. i can't do the setup (hd0) command in grub |
| 16:37.51 | Jamie | Gnea: I shall read it again :) |
| 16:37.53 | MoDaX | cableroy: home dir |
| 16:37.58 | Gnea | calmonkey: ~/.emacs would be the equivilant of $HOME/.emacs or /home/yourusername/.emacs |
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| 16:38.24 | morten | how do i set nntp servers in trn? |
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| 16:38.36 | stew | Jamie: i'm guessing this is your problem: initramfs-tools was used to build your initrd. initramfs-tools depends on udev which conflicts with hotplug, so if you want to use hotplug instead of udev you have to also replace initramfs-tools with yaird |
| 16:38.40 | calmonkey | thanks gnea |
| 16:38.49 | Gnea | Jamie: i'll try to make this easy for you then: udev has encompassed hotplug, so newer kernels like 2.6.17 don't need hotplug, specifically. you just need udev and it takes care of the hotplugging. it's that simple. |
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| 16:39.00 | stew | Jamie: is there a reason you want hotplug instead of udev? udev replaces all of the hotplug functionality |
| 16:39.39 | ne78 | What is the new location of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme ? |
| 16:39.41 | Jamie | stew & Gnea: thanks, I realised that hotplug is basically depriciated :) I just need some documentation so that I can set up my hot pluggin again |
| 16:39.45 | EvilDin | btw i forget name, for installing linux kernel 2.4.27-3 (it has some fixes for one exploit) what is name of package? |
| 16:39.58 | ne78 | What is the new location of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme ? (i mean after the xorg upgrade) |
| 16:40.16 | samuel | any decent statistics programs out there? |
| 16:40.25 | samuel | with a gui and the like? |
| 16:40.44 | Gnea | Jamie: no problem, you'll find that udev is quite extensible as far as changing things around, too, although it's a really new concept, it's extremely robust and stable :) |
| 16:40.47 | morten | how do i set nntp servers for trn? |
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| 16:41.06 | Thumann | okay.. i booted up on a ubuntu disk.. installed dmraid, configured my fake raid.. partitioned it.. debootstrapped it with sarge.. started to install stuff.. but i'm stuck at making the system bootable.. i can't do the setup (hd0) command in grub |
| 16:41.08 | Gnea | !xorg7 |
| 16:41.08 | dpkg | Find some solutions at http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 in order to fix problems from 6.9 to 7 |
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| 16:41.12 | stew | hotplug->udev is udev in testing/unstable now provides all of the functionality that hotplug does (and then some), move any firmware from /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware to /lib/firmware. if you were blacklisting modules in /etc/hotplug blacklist them in /etc/modprobe.d instead |
| 16:41.16 | stew | !hotplug->udev is udev in testing/unstable now provides all of the functionality that hotplug does (and then some), move any firmware from /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware to /lib/firmware. if you were blacklisting modules in /etc/hotplug blacklist them in /etc/modprobe.d instead |
| 16:41.24 | Gnea | !tell ne78 about xorg7 |
| 16:41.32 | stew | oh yeah ! and -> don't work together yet |
| 16:41.41 | ferris_ | how do force an ignore of all kde packages when upgrading/updating? |
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| 16:41.53 | stew | ferris_: /msg dpkg hold |
| 16:41.54 | ferris_ | i never want to have kde installed |
| 16:41.58 | ne78 | Gnea i know that, my question is more sepcfific |
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| 16:42.15 | stew | ferris_: wait, you don't want the upgraded, or they are not yet installed and you don't want them installed? |
| 16:42.31 | Gnea | ne78: i don't care, it's answered on that website. |
| 16:42.43 | EvilDin | how do i install kernel 2.4.27-3 |
| 16:43.00 | musashiden | erm, getting this error when installing the new kernel |
| 16:43.01 | musashiden | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 16:43.01 | musashiden | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.01 | musashiden | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 16:43.08 | ferris_ | stew, I am going to remove the kde packages and then never want them to be upgraded or installed after that |
| 16:43.13 | Gnea | !paster |
| 16:43.13 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. Afterwards, give us the resulting url. |
| 16:43.18 | musashiden | sorry |
| 16:43.41 | stew | ferris_: /msg dpkg remove kde ; then if you don't want them installed, just don't install anything that depends on kde. |
| 16:43.42 | ferris_ | stew, my system cannot run kde as kde is too bulky for my old pc |
| 16:43.57 | stew | musashiden: /msg dpkg paster |
| 16:44.05 | musashiden | http://pastebin.com/753797 |
| 16:44.06 | stew | oh, nm |
| 16:44.14 | ne78 | What is the new location of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme under the new xorg file layout ? /usr/share/X11/icons doesn't exists |
| 16:44.19 | musashiden | thats the error i'm getting |
| 16:44.31 | ne78 | Gnea: Where on that wiki page ? |
| 16:44.50 | Gnea | ne78: it's there, you have to read it. |
| 16:44.56 | ne78 | Gnea: i grepped for icons |
| 16:45.00 | ne78 | Gnea: nothing |
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| 16:45.06 | morten | can someone help me figure out how to set NNTP servers for TRN? |
| 16:45.06 | Gnea | ne78: grepping != reading |
| 16:45.25 | musashiden | stew: can you please tell me what is wrong? |
| 16:46.00 | cahoot | morten: no /etc/default/trn to look at? |
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| 16:46.26 | Gnea | musashiden: yaird error: block device '/dev/hde1' unavailable (/etc/fstab:5) (fatal) |
| 16:46.40 | gnychis | how can i find all the hal information for a device? |
| 16:46.41 | ne78 | Gnea: I read all the document, it only says Since everything under /usr/X11R6 has been moved out, the directory itself is no longer used nor pertinant to the system, save for the problems where a workable solution has been found above. |
| 16:46.54 | ne78 | Gnea: nothing about cursor thems |
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| 16:47.01 | musashiden | Gnea: ok...how do i fix that?.. |
| 16:47.01 | EvilDin | is it safe to install kernel-build-2.4.27-3 ? |
| 16:47.02 | Gnea | ne78: exactly. so now you know where things went. |
| 16:47.11 | ne78 | Gnea: nope |
| 16:47.23 | ne78 | Gnea: where does do icons cursor thems ? |
| 16:47.24 | Thumann | stew: okay.. i booted up on a ubuntu disk.. installed dmraid, configured my fake raid.. partitioned it.. debootstrapped it with sarge.. started to install stuff.. but i'm stuck at making the system bootable.. i can't do the setup (hd0) command in grub |
| 16:47.27 | Gnea | ne78: basically, pretend that /X11R6 does not exist. |
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| 16:47.38 | Gnea | ne78: and don't forget the updatedb and locate commands. |
| 16:47.49 | ne78 | Gnea: you sucks |
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| 16:48.00 | ne78 | Gnea: if you don't know dont answer |
| 16:48.10 | Gnea | !tell ne78 about ask |
| 16:48.19 | musashiden | Gnea: can you please tell me how to fix that? |
| 16:48.20 | Gnea | ne78: your attitude sucks. |
| 16:48.53 | ne78 | What is the new location of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme under the new xorg file layout (the cursor theme configuration) ? /usr/share/X11/icons doesn't exists |
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| 16:49.03 | Gnea | !repeat |
| 16:49.03 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 16:50.19 | Gnea | i never said anything about /usr/share taking over /usr/X11R6 |
| 16:50.22 | Gnea | who's the sucks now? |
| 16:50.30 | musashiden | erm, shouldnt hde5 be sde5? since my disk is sata? |
| 16:50.42 | Gnea | musashiden: it's your system, you tell me |
| 16:50.47 | morten | cahoot: unfortunately, no /etc/default/trn to look at |
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| 16:51.15 | musashiden | the hard disk drive is sata. but i dont know if i should change the fstab. |
| 16:51.17 | scomp | On my laptop I have installed WinXP and Slack. Network Card i working normaly in XP, but in slack, card sometimes work, sometimes not. |
| 16:51.25 | cahoot | morten: in that case I'd look into /usr/share/docs/trn/README.debian or such |
| 16:51.27 | Gnea | !tell scomp about repeat |
| 16:51.35 | scomp | sorry |
| 16:51.44 | stew | scomp: by slack you mean slackware? |
| 16:51.47 | Gnea | we don't give a fuck about slackware |
| 16:51.49 | scomp | yes |
| 16:51.56 | musashiden | anybody?.. |
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| 16:52.01 | stew | musashiden: what does "ls -l /dev/hde1" say? |
| 16:52.14 | Gnea | musashiden: if it's detected as a scsi disk, then yes |
| 16:52.23 | broadcaster | musashiden: no, sata disks are treated as scsi disks |
| 16:52.40 | musashiden | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 33, 1 2005-02-25 22:43 /dev/hde1 |
| 16:52.42 | broadcaster | musashiden: probably only when they are attached to an additional controller |
| 16:52.44 | stew | musashiden: what does "uanme -r" say? |
| 16:53.00 | musashiden | bash: uanme: command not found |
| 16:53.07 | broadcaster | musashiden: i mean: controller chip |
| 16:53.15 | Gnea | musashiden: i think he means 'uname -r' |
| 16:53.16 | sekh` | musashiden: uname -r |
| 16:53.19 | stew | ewps |
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| 16:53.30 | musashiden | 2.6.8-3-686-smp |
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| 16:55.33 | musashiden | well?.. |
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| 16:56.48 | musashiden | erm, why did the channel just died? |
| 16:57.06 | stew | musashiden: so wait. what is /dev/hde? you think it is a sata disk? |
| 16:57.10 | nse | pplease |
| 16:57.17 | morten | cahoot: i'm not seeing it. |
| 16:57.27 | morten | doesn't anyone here use usenet anymore? |
| 16:57.29 | morten | god damn it. |
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| 16:57.48 | musashiden | stew: the server only has 1 200GB SATA HDD. so yeah, it must be sata. |
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| 16:57.57 | ferris_ | morten, what is usenet? |
| 16:58.00 | ferris_ | he he |
| 16:58.06 | stew | musashiden: what does "grep hde /etc/fstab" say? |
| 16:58.08 | morten | :( |
| 16:58.16 | zamaliphe | what is the mail pop client that work with this script http://www.eglug.org/node/2070 |
| 16:58.21 | stew | musashiden: or actaully, can you just put your entire fstab on a pastebin? |
| 16:58.28 | morten | ferris_: tell me how to configure which newsserver trn connects to |
| 16:59.04 | musashiden | http://pastebin.com/753828 |
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| 17:00.35 | musashiden | stew: do you see anything wrong? |
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| 17:00.56 | ferris_ | morten, check this http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/software/trn-faq/ |
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| 17:01.36 | ticc | i would like to remove just one word from control file in deb package. How can i do it the fastest way? |
| 17:02.02 | stew | musashiden: its odd that your sata shows up as hde and not sda. i'm not sure what to tell you. what SATA controller do you have? |
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| 17:02.22 | stew | ticc: what package? why? |
| 17:02.24 | musashiden | erm..i dont know.. |
| 17:02.39 | stew | musashiden: lspci should tell you |
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| 17:03.13 | musashiden | thats weird. it only shows IDE controllers |
| 17:03.17 | ticc | its package with e17 from cvs and it has some strange depedencies. I just would like to remove one word, but i'm unable to do it with simple apps like mc :/ |
| 17:03.29 | EmleyMoor | I'm having trouble with an MMC reader - what filesystem do they normally have? |
| 17:04.27 | musashiden | stew: any idea on what should i do? |
| 17:04.29 | ferris_ | .trninit file. If -q isn't what you want, always type 'N' at the |
| 17:04.29 | ferris_ | new-group prompt and trn will skip them all. |
| 17:04.29 | ferris_ | See also the AUTOUNSUBSCRIBE environment variable. There's a companion |
| 17:04.29 | ferris_ | AUTOSUBSCRIBE function too. For example, to automatically unsubscribe |
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| 17:04.51 | stew | musashiden: what controller do you have? |
| 17:05.02 | zamaliphe | what is linux mail pop client ? |
| 17:05.16 | musashiden | http://pastebin.com/753839 |
| 17:05.22 | stew | ticc: are you getting the .dev package via apt-get? |
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| 17:05.22 | EmleyMoor | zamaliphe: fetchmail |
| 17:05.34 | ferris_ | my bad on the flood. |
| 17:05.37 | morten | <3 fetchmail |
| 17:05.51 | morten | ferris_: was that for me? |
| 17:05.56 | ferris_ | morten yes |
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| 17:06.34 | ferris_ | search for csng on the first page of the link that i sent earlier |
| 17:06.48 | musashiden | stew: i guess its 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage Co |
| 17:06.51 | stew | musashiden: you can try installing udev and initramfs-tools and see if initramfs-tools does a better job than yaird at building the initrd |
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| 17:07.09 | morten | ferris_: i don't want it to stop bugging me about anything. i want it to connect to my newsserver of choice :( |
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| 17:07.50 | bnovc_ | hello, when i resize my windows over ssh regardless of ssh client & client computer, it makes my screen go black and after i manually refresh, programs still use the old size |
| 17:08.02 | ferris_ | morten, ok, let me check something |
| 17:08.03 | stew | ticc: get the source of the .deb edit debian/control, then "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" to build it. if you are fetching the packages via apt-get you can likely add a deb-src line ant apt-get source packagename |
| 17:08.16 | musashiden | ugh! i cant even install udev. its having a clonfict with the kernel install. |
| 17:08.30 | ticc | stew thx |
| 17:08.34 | musashiden | i'm getting ticked off. |
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| 17:08.44 | musashiden | its frustrating |
| 17:08.48 | draft | hello |
| 17:09.06 | bnovc_ | has anyone experienced this before |
| 17:09.11 | ferris_ | morten, you are using trn? |
| 17:09.12 | draft | is anyone know how to upgrade BIOS under debian please ? |
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| 17:09.26 | ticc | stew but i dont have source, i just want to delete one word in package and don't know how to compress control |
| 17:09.27 | RichiH | bnovc_: me not |
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| 17:09.40 | ferris_ | morten, which newsreader are you using? |
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| 17:09.50 | morten | ferris_: trn |
| 17:09.53 | ferris_ | ok |
| 17:10.07 | musashiden | stew: udev is having the same error installing that the kernel has. |
| 17:10.48 | musashiden | yaird error: '/dev/hde1' not found (/etc/fstab:5) (fatal) |
| 17:11.03 | Maulkin | dacu: Depends on what the bios is. |
| 17:11.18 | Maulkin | draft: And what tools the manufaturer has given you |
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| 17:12.56 | musashiden | can anybody PLEASE help me install the 2.6.16 kernel? |
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| 17:15.20 | ferris_ | musashiden apt-get install kernel-image.... |
| 17:15.21 | musashiden | -sigh- |
| 17:15.43 | musashiden | yaird error: '/dev/hde1' not found (/etc/fstab:5) (fatal) |
| 17:15.52 | broadcaster | i assume, mkfs.jffs2 is not available as a debian packet somewhere and i have to compile it myself, right? |
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| 17:16.18 | ferris_ | <<< possible death to connection |
| 17:16.20 | usual | what is the site that has all the prior versions of debian packages |
| 17:16.34 | ferris_ | kernel.org will have some |
| 17:16.45 | usual | no there is a site with like every version |
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| 17:17.19 | mrspock1980 | Hello! I have aborded a dvd+rw-format /dev/dvdrecorder action with ctrl+c - the media is not recognized anymore by dvd+rw-mediainfo... do I have any chance to bring this dvd-rw media back to live or shall I better cat it info dev-trash ? |
| 17:17.30 | morten | ferris_: any dice? |
| 17:18.07 | ferris_ | not just yet morten |
| 17:18.08 | broadcaster | mrspock1980: i think, you're in the wrong channel here |
| 17:18.09 | MoDaX | usual: snalshot.debian.net |
| 17:18.11 | usual | dpkg old packages? |
| 17:18.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, old packages is look in /var/cache/apt/archives/, or try snapshot.debian.net |
| 17:18.13 | MoDaX | usual: snapshot.debian.net |
| 17:18.16 | usual | ah |
| 17:18.17 | usual | ty |
| 17:18.26 | musashiden | -sigh- nobody helps me around here. why do i even try.. |
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| 17:18.55 | mrspock1980 | well - that's a beginning - which channel would better fit to my problem? |
| 17:18.59 | zamaliphe | EmleyMoor: thanks |
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| 17:19.43 | tralala | mrspock1980: ##linux |
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| 17:20.09 | ferris_ | musashiden, try #oklinux... |
| 17:20.29 | musashiden | come on. there 833 users on this channel and NOBODY has had this error before? |
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| 17:21.55 | Vasistha | musashiden: sometimes the channel's busy and the right people aren't paying attention. Why don't you try asking again in ten minutes?\ |
| 17:22.21 | ricky_clarkson | Because then someone will shout at him for repeating. ;) |
| 17:22.40 | Vasistha | ricky_clarkson: that's why I said ten minutes instead of two minutes ;-) |
| 17:22.59 | EmleyMoor | Do you have a /dev/hde1? |
| 17:23.02 | blondie | patience people |
| 17:23.04 | ricky_clarkson | Yeah, my memory has expired around 6 minutes. |
| 17:23.15 | stew | musashiden: what is the error you are getting? |
| 17:23.16 | gnychis | how can i name a volume? like for instance i have a flash card reader, i put in a flash card, but it has no volume name ... how can i name it? |
| 17:23.33 | gnufan | bnovc_: try typing "resize" after you have resized the window |
| 17:24.11 | RvGaTe | there was a distro that had the feel of windows, does anyone know what distro im talking about? (i know its off topic) |
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| 17:24.13 | ootput | how about waiting until 2 pagefuls of text (~160 lines) have scrolled by before asking again? |
| 17:24.20 | ootput | sure beats the 10 minute rule |
| 17:24.23 | Vasistha | EmleyMoor: doesn't matter what we have, go ahead and just ask your question |
| 17:24.54 | EmleyMoor | Vasistha: It wasn't - it was an attempt to answer what's-his-name |
| 17:25.12 | musashiden | stew: http://pastebin.com/753797 |
| 17:25.40 | stew | musashiden: remove yaird so that initramfs-tools is used for the initrd |
| 17:25.45 | ootput | musashiden: 've never had it |
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| 17:26.13 | Vasistha | RvGaTe: well, linspire comes to mind. KDE has a windows-ish feel -- and KDE is not a distro, it's a desktop. There's even an imitation windows configuration called Redmond or something for KDE |
| 17:26.29 | musashiden | stew: ok, i just removed yaird. now what? |
| 17:26.38 | stew | musashiden: reinstall the linux-image |
| 17:26.52 | stew | musashiden: you installed initramfs-tools, right? |
| 17:27.00 | musashiden | no. |
| 17:27.02 | Vasistha | gnychis: I've wanted to do that before, and one time I figured it out. I'll see if I can find it again |
| 17:27.19 | fwest | many years ago when i used debian on my last laptop i used a package to import the m$ fonts, its gone, what do i do now? |
| 17:27.19 | RvGaTe | Vasistha: im mostly positive its not kde... it was a complete distro that looked like a direct copy of windows |
| 17:27.29 | musashiden | stew: initramfs-tools: Depends: udev (>= 0.076-5) but 0.056-3 is to be installed |
| 17:27.32 | draft | Maulcin: he give me an windows executable.... |
| 17:27.50 | stew | musashiden: yes, you would have to install all of those pacakges from sarge-backports |
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| 17:27.57 | morten | does anyone here use the TRN newsreader? i can't figure out how to configure it to connect to my newsserver. it keeps trying to connect to server.wan. |
| 17:28.06 | musashiden | stew: is that a good thing or a bad thing? |
| 17:28.20 | Vasistha | RvGaTe: it actually probably was KDE. You would be surprised at how drastically different KDE can be configured to look. And have you checked Linspire? |
| 17:28.25 | bnovc_ | gnufan: its hard to do that from irssi :P |
| 17:28.31 | bnovc_ | although there is probably some /exec i dont know of |
| 17:28.38 | stew | musashiden: if yaird cannot build an initrd for your, your choices are to try initramfs-tools from backports or to compile a kernel yourself that doens't need an initrd |
| 17:28.52 | Jamie | stew & Gnea: I've just found out that I was using udev before, but the rules that I used now are invalid :/ |
| 17:29.14 | bnovc_ | gnufan: that does fix it, though why doesnt it do it automatically? |
| 17:29.22 | stew | Jamie: rules you had customized/added? |
| 17:29.24 | ferris_ | morten, I haven't forgotten you.... i am in middle of a dist-upgrade |
| 17:29.31 | Jamie | stew: yes, my own rules |
| 17:29.41 | Jamie | stew: just need to see what's wrong with them |
| 17:29.51 | RvGaTe | Vasistha: http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/misc/xpde-fullshot.png |
| 17:30.00 | stew | Jamie: what did the rules do? is it possible that the newer stock rules might do whatever you were trying to do? |
| 17:30.00 | musashiden | stew: how can i install initramfs-tools from the backports? |
| 17:30.02 | Vasistha | gnychis: check out mlabel in the mtools package |
| 17:30.15 | morten | ferris_: thanks. i'll hang in here ^^ |
| 17:30.23 | stew | musashiden: apt-get install -t sarge-backports initramfs-tools udev linux-image-2.6-686-smp |
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| 17:30.25 | abrotman | RvGaTe: xpde.com |
| 17:30.33 | Jamie | stew: I think it creates symlinks in /dev |
| 17:30.38 | RvGaTe | abrotman: yup, got that |
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| 17:31.09 | musashiden | stew: The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 17:31.09 | musashiden | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:31.14 | musashiden | is that ok?\ |
| 17:31.30 | stew | hah: head -2 /etc/udev/links.conf |
| 17:31.30 | gnufan | bnovc_: I've no idea -- I'm fairly sure some combinations of Window manager, terminal, and ssh settings do work... |
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| 17:32.15 | stew | musashiden: yes. as long as you get this kernel working. if not, you will need to remove this newer udev and install hotplug again |
| 17:32.27 | musashiden | ok |
| 17:32.45 | stew | musashiden: the udev you are installing will not work with your current kernel, only the newer kerenl. |
| 17:32.50 | musashiden | Errors were encountered while processing: |
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| 17:33.23 | musashiden | ./var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.091-1bpo1_i386.deb |
| 17:33.25 | gnufan | bnovc_: hmm close http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg03048.html |
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| 17:34.42 | deepz | guys any one can tell me a opensource product equivalent to IBM websphere portal on linux platform |
| 17:34.52 | musashiden | debian must hate me...so very much.. |
| 17:35.28 | stew | musashiden: is this a new install? |
| 17:35.44 | musashiden | of debian? |
| 17:35.45 | stew | yes |
| 17:35.49 | musashiden | pretty much.. |
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| 17:35.58 | Vasistha | RvGaTe: well, you could look for a distro that uses xpde as its default desktop, or you could take some distro and install xpde on it. I don't know if it's available in debian. |
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| 17:36.08 | stew | musashiden: you could install with a 2.6.15 kernel: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.15 |
| 17:36.18 | gnufan | deepz: Isn't websphere just Apache and a few products from the Apache consortium? Excuse I last looked at Websphere when it was released, and it was pretty much a bad version of Apache at the time, I'm sure it has developed. |
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| 17:37.34 | musashiden | stew: i'd love to do that. if it wasnt for the server being across the country from me |
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| 17:38.20 | musashiden | i'm gonna go get some air. i have a headache from the frustration... |
| 17:38.32 | stew | musashiden: did it report an error with udev? or just those two lines? something about it requiring a >= 2.6.12 kernel? |
| 17:39.24 | bnovc_ | gnufan: i read that one before :( i'm not using any switches |
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| 17:40.02 | bnovc_ | gnufan: i already emailed him and asked though |
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| 17:42.32 | christor | Please where is the commande apt-sqetup?? it disappear on my new debian |
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| 17:42.57 | sid | christor: What version of debian are you running? |
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| 17:43.08 | christor | sid: testing |
| 17:43.12 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:43.13 | dpkg | i heard popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure -plow popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:43.16 | sid | !apt-setup |
| 17:43.17 | dpkg | apt-setup is probably a means of adding deb/deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that you can install packages from the internet. To install from a cd-rom ask me about 'apt-cdrom'. no longer available in testing/unstable since base-config was removed, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html. Gone from etch and sid. |
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| 17:43.25 | sid | christor: If you want to use testing, you don't get to use apt-setup |
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| 17:43.50 | christor | sid: I want to change the mirror |
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| 17:44.04 | sid | christor: yourfavoriteeditorhere /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:44.05 | Initiate | Hello again. |
| 17:44.11 | sid | !greet Initiate |
| 17:44.11 | dpkg | Bonjour, Initiate |
| 17:44.28 | christor | sid: yes but I want the list because I don t know the url |
| 17:44.34 | Initiate | Could I paste my /etc/network/interfaces so you guys can look up what's wrong with it? |
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| 17:44.57 | Initiate | I don't really want to get banned from #debian for spam,especially not now |
| 17:45.03 | sid | !tell christor about mirrors |
| 17:45.06 | christor | Initiate: paste it in pastebin.com |
| 17:45.08 | sid | Initiate: no |
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| 17:45.10 | sid | !tell Initiate about paste |
| 17:45.41 | Initiate | Good thing I asked first,thanks sid. |
| 17:45.54 | rolo | hi , how do i do to make my machine do "$modprobe usbhid" on boot ? |
| 17:46.05 | rolo | i have to load it everytime manually |
| 17:46.13 | amphi | rolo: echo usbhid >> /etc/modules |
| 17:46.25 | rolo | oh thankyou |
| 17:46.39 | christor | sid : I know that I can go on google to find a mirror and add it in /etc/apt/sources.list, my question is why the command disappear in testing? or exist it an other command to replace it? |
| 17:46.42 | Initiate | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2722 |
| 17:46.56 | sid | !tell christor about netselect |
| 17:46.57 | Initiate | Now what's wrong with this? :| |
| 17:47.10 | sid | christor: What are you trying to do? |
| 17:47.14 | ferris_ | morten, I have just read trn section in unix for dummies, and it doesn't appear that it is possible to autoconnect... maybe there is a script for it? |
| 17:47.21 | stew | Initiate: netmask should be 255.255.255.240 (probably) |
| 17:47.22 | christor | I just want to change my mirror url |
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| 17:47.54 | charzero | I have found a gazillion docs on how to print to a cups server from windows. anybody know of one for how to print to a cups server from linux? |
| 17:47.57 | stew | Initiate: and you might want "auto eth1" in there |
| 17:47.59 | Initiate | stew,I was surprised a lot when they told me this netmask,but I specifically asked my ISP twice about it :/ |
| 17:48.11 | stew | Initiate: that is not a valid netmask |
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| 17:48.33 | Initiate | I know it's usually 255.255.25*.* |
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| 17:48.51 | Initiate | brb,I`ll try adding auto eth1 and edit the netmask |
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| 17:49.27 | charzero | somebody has got to be connecting to a linux cups server with linux clients. |
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| 17:50.01 | Bitz | hi, any ideas why xdm reset itself back to login screen after a sucessful login? |
| 17:50.05 | keloe1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:50.27 | stew | Bitz: check ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 17:50.28 | hellangel`linux | debian.de |
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| 17:50.32 | hellangel`linux | guten abend =) |
| 17:50.34 | hellangel`linux | arr |
| 17:50.52 | abrotman | !de |
| 17:50.52 | dpkg | methinks de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net - German speaking users please go to #debian.de either here on freenode or on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:52.18 | Initiate | stew,it works now,thanks |
| 17:52.37 | morten | ferris_: i have no idea, man. i can't figure it out eithr :( |
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| 17:53.47 | ferris_ | morten, i just don't think it is possible to autoconnect to a default news server, atleast not in trn |
| 17:53.59 | Bitz | nothing in .xsession-errors, why it works for root and not normal user? |
| 17:54.06 | morten | ferris_: is it possible with nn? |
| 17:54.11 | Bitz | stew? |
| 17:54.14 | ferris_ | maybe there is a different application that can be used |
| 17:54.19 | smagy2 | hello folks, i am using the latest kernel 2.6.16.19 . i am having trouble with getting alsamixer to work., it complains of alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device . i have CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=y would appreciate some help. |
| 17:54.23 | ferris_ | not sure, let me check it out |
| 17:54.35 | morten | smagy2: solution: don't run unstable |
| 17:54.43 | stew | Bitz: do you have a ~/.xsession? if so, what is in it? |
| 17:54.49 | Bitz | stew: it works fine before i move / to a new partition |
| 17:55.13 | Bitz | stew: no |
| 17:56.23 | Vasistha | oh yeah, that's why I'm in here. I'm having trouble getting /etc/apm/resume.d scripts to run -- that is to say, I don't think they're running at all. Is there some black magic I need to know about here? |
| 17:56.30 | ferris_ | morten, i have no info on nn |
| 17:56.34 | stew | Bitz: maybe "update-alternatives --config x-window-manager" |
| 17:56.50 | smagy2 | morten: err, |
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| 17:57.43 | morten | smagy2: ? |
| 17:57.47 | abrotman | smagy2: did you compile your own? |
| 17:58.06 | morten | ferris_: there must be some way for ftn to connect to a news server. how is it done? |
| 17:58.14 | abrotman | morten: that's not a packaged kernel afaict |
| 17:58.29 | morten | oh. darn. colour me stupid. |
| 17:58.37 | abrotman | and your spelling sucks! :) |
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| 17:58.47 | morten | uh. trn |
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| 17:59.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: how would you handle inquiries as in #258301 (it's the 2nd like that) |
| 17:59.22 | ferris_ | when you start trn what happens, morten |
| 17:59.39 | falco_toadfoot | can anyone recommend me a S-ATA controller card with hardware raid support (that can be used on debian stable without proprietary drivers) |
| 17:59.42 | ferris_ | i thought that you wanted to automatically connect to a specific news server |
| 17:59.51 | ferris_ | is this correct? |
| 17:59.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: is that a bug number? |
| 17:59.56 | abrotman | !sata faq |
| 17:59.57 | dpkg | http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html or http://linux-ata.org/ |
| 17:59.59 | abrotman | falco_toadfoot: ^^ |
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| 18:00.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes |
| 18:00.08 | abrotman | !dbugs 258301 |
| 18:00.11 | dpkg | DONE:#258301:W[links2] Links2 should be compiled with openssl support; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 19:18:06 UTC |
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| 18:00.39 | Jamie | stew & Gnea: the udev rule syntax has changed so that you use == for evaluation now (!!!) |
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| 18:00.56 | morten | ferris_: i get a welcome message of a sorts, and it says press space to contine. when i press space it tries to connect to news.wan, fails, and asks me to press space again after which it quits. |
| 18:01.10 | abrotman | tarzeau: wouldn't you need a license exception from OpenSSL ? |
| 18:01.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: don't i have that for weeks if not moths? |
| 18:01.28 | ferris_ | ok, that is different |
| 18:01.30 | tarzeau | abrotman: why can people not read the changelogs? |
| 18:01.32 | morten | ferris_: and it says 'couldn't open any newsrc groups. is your access file okay?' |
| 18:01.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: would anything like that ever get into debian? |
| 18:01.58 | abrotman | tarzeau: i think other packages have the exception |
| 18:02.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: the slightest license crossing into the nazi licensing debian? |
| 18:02.08 | ferris_ | remove trn, and reinstall, or edit the file |
| 18:02.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: so does links2, so what? |
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| 18:02.22 | ferris_ | if it is corrupted trn is basically dead |
| 18:02.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: the bug was closed for a reason, and people can read up the license? |
| 18:02.30 | smagy2 | abortman: yes i compiled the kernel myself |
| 18:02.33 | abrotman | tarzeau: if links2 has an exception .. i think you can compile support in |
| 18:02.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: obviously they can't, but they can waste time nagging around long ago solved issues? |
| 18:02.45 | abrotman | smagy2: does the debian kernel work ? |
| 18:02.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: you know it's in since two links2 upstream releases? |
| 18:03.05 | ferris_ | morten, after you remove it let me know |
| 18:03.06 | tarzeau | abrotman: the bug was closed some time ago... |
| 18:03.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: so links2 has ssl support now ? |
| 18:03.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: since 2 april 2006 |
| 18:03.53 | abrotman | tarzeau: so close the bug as resolved .. not "wontfix" |
| 18:04.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: err the bug is closed already? |
| 18:04.22 | abrotman | Tags added: wontfix Request was from G?rkan Seng?n <gurkan@linuks.mine.nu> to control@bugs.debian.org. Full text and rfc822 format available. |
| 18:04.33 | smagy2 | abrotman: yes 2.6.8-2-i386 that was installed by the installer worked. out of the box |
| 18:04.47 | abrotman | smagy2: so why not use that? |
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| 18:05.39 | midgetarg | can someone please dig @142.179.187.177 wolfeden.ca and tell me what you get? and then just dig wolfeden.ca and tell me that as well? thanks |
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| 18:06.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: is it arrogant acting when i chose to not answer people who chose to not read documentation? |
| 18:06.26 | morten | ferris_: sorry, i missed that. what am i to remove? |
| 18:06.33 | smagy2 | abortman: because i am trying to check out the new kernel and see what features it has. mostly interested in kexec feature of loading another kernel etc. |
| 18:06.46 | morten | ferris_: oh, ok. will do. |
| 18:07.02 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're the one that marked it 'wontfix' |
| 18:07.17 | tarzeau | abrotman: man but the bug was fixed by surprise |
| 18:07.18 | abrotman | tarzeau: just reply .. and tell him what's up .. or to read the full text of the bug |
| 18:07.34 | abrotman | tarzeau: if you got an exception .. note it .. if you ignored it .. note it |
| 18:07.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: hehe, it was just hilarious to get such a oneliner mail after over one month |
| 18:07.56 | abrotman | smagy2: ok .. ask #kernel or #alsa |
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| 18:08.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: you're great why don't you apply for NM already? |
| 18:08.13 | abrotman | tarzeau: because i'd be denied! |
| 18:08.21 | tarzeau | abrotman: for what reason? |
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| 18:08.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: cause i'm from .us |
| 18:08.39 | abrotman | tarzeau: DC won't come to .us either |
| 18:09.06 | morten | ferris_: ok, i've removed it and reinstalled it. now what? |
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| 18:09.29 | ferris_ | run it |
| 18:09.42 | ryan` | any reason to care about partitions not being on cylender boundries if i'm only using linux? |
| 18:09.50 | morten | ferris_: same thing |
| 18:09.57 | smagy2 | abortman: thanks |
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| 18:10.13 | abrotman | smagy2: they should be able to help you more .. and it's a better place to ask |
| 18:10.26 | ferris_ | morten did you get to "setting up..."? |
| 18:10.38 | smagy2 | thank you, didn't realize there was a seperate channel for alsa |
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| 18:11.04 | ferris_ | morten, I mean "Trying to set up..." |
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| 18:11.30 | morten | ferris_: setting up? it just tries to connect, fails, and terminates |
| 18:11.50 | morten | do i need to run dpkg-reconfigure or something? it didn't ask me anything as i installed it. |
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| 18:12.27 | dman | thx for yr help before valdyn |
| 18:12.50 | morten | where do i dump logs and stuff so i can link to it? |
| 18:12.57 | ferris_ | the first time that you run trn, it should say "Trying to set up a .newsrc file-running " |
| 18:13.07 | ferris_ | do you get that? |
| 18:13.10 | morten | ferris_: it doesn't. should i grab it from testing instead? |
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| 18:13.19 | ferris_ | yes, try that |
| 18:13.20 | morten | this stable version seems to be from 2001 or something |
| 18:13.31 | steve_ | hello fellow debian users |
| 18:13.58 | steve_ | i have YaDP |
| 18:14.05 | steve_ | that is (yet another debian problem) |
| 18:14.06 | dman | i still have some doubts about what kernel image to choose for my p1 166mhz |
| 18:14.06 | ferris_ | morten, try updating and upgrading |
| 18:14.08 | steve_ | :D |
| 18:14.12 | dman | i still have some doubts about what kernel image to choose for my p1 166mhz valdyn |
| 18:14.21 | ferris_ | that may resolve some of the issue |
| 18:14.37 | steve_ | my install seems to have lasted a total of one day before screwing up |
| 18:14.39 | ferris_ | dman, use the newest |
| 18:14.42 | morten | ferris_: same thing :( |
| 18:14.53 | abrotman | steve_: what did you do? |
| 18:14.54 | morten | ferris_: what version do you have installed? |
| 18:15.13 | ferris_ | morten, i am still upgrading so i cannot install it right now |
| 18:15.22 | morten | ok |
| 18:15.34 | ferris_ | as soon as i can i will and run it.... just to see if it is broken |
| 18:15.44 | steve_ | when i boot linux i get a X prompt for user and pass. if i type the wrong password it tells me the pw is wrong but when i type the right one the screen blackens and then brings me right back to the prompt |
| 18:15.52 | dman | valdyn, i think you r ecommended kernel-image-2.4.27-3-386 |
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| 18:16.28 | ferris_ | steve you need to install dm |
| 18:16.32 | zebalin4 | Does anyone know why Kaffeine crashes on quicktime .mov files? Works fine with all others. I have latest w32codecs installed. |
| 18:16.54 | xmb | apt-cache search quicktime |
| 18:16.54 | dman | not sure what the difference is with kernel-image-2.4.27-3-586tsc |
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| 18:17.44 | steve_ | what exactly is dm? |
| 18:17.53 | ferris_ | steve_ you need to install a new desktop manager |
| 18:18.06 | ferris_ | but there are a few packages that need to be installed |
| 18:18.18 | samuel | anyone know of a decent stats program that has a gui for linux? i need gaussian distribution and the like |
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| 18:18.42 | abrotman | samuel: apt-cache search statistics |
| 18:18.42 | ferris_ | steve_ gdm, gnome-desktop,and a couple more |
| 18:18.43 | dman | ferris_, im now using 2.2.20, but need support for e xt3 |
| 18:18.53 | abrotman | dman: install a 2.4 kernel |
| 18:18.55 | steve_ | i have gnome installed |
| 18:18.59 | steve_ | i can startx as root |
| 18:19.09 | steve_ | my setup just worked yesterday |
| 18:19.15 | steve_ | also have fluxbox installed |
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| 18:19.28 | ferris_ | steve_ so you can bring up the desktop under root? |
| 18:19.29 | MidgetSpy | can someone please dig @142.179.187.177 wolfeden.ca and tell me what you get? and then just dig wolfeden.ca and tell me that as well? thanks |
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| 18:19.37 | steve_ | yea |
| 18:19.49 | steve_ | if i type startx as user: steve it doesnt work |
| 18:19.57 | steve_ | i believe it thinks X is already running |
| 18:19.58 | samuel | abrotman, there are many... paw and r stand out, but id like to know if there are any suggestions |
| 18:20.05 | steve_ | (which it is technically) |
| 18:20.08 | ferris_ | steve_ startx under root, then take a look at your permissions for your normal user |
| 18:20.13 | abrotman | MidgetSpy: #dns |
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| 18:20.25 | abrotman | MidgetSpy: or ask a friend :) |
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| 18:21.35 | steve_ | permissions on what? |
| 18:21.42 | steve_ | i didnt change anything |
| 18:21.51 | steve_ | right now im on another box ssh'd in |
| 18:21.55 | sanders | Are the official binary nvidia drivers not in the unstable non-free repository? |
| 18:21.55 | MidgetSpy | abrotman: ok, I'll try #dns, thanks. I don't have any friends with linux, heh |
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| 18:21.59 | meriad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.03 | meriad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.08 | tarzeau | sanders: www.linuks.mine.nu/nvidia/nvidia-drivers |
| 18:22.13 | abrotman | MidgetSpy: you could try google "dns check" |
| 18:22.16 | abrotman | meriad: hi |
| 18:22.32 | meriad | abrotman- anythign planned for the wekend bra? |
| 18:22.41 | sanders | tarzeau: 404 |
| 18:22.45 | blondie | abrotman wears a bra? |
| 18:22.50 | tarzeau | sanders: reload |
| 18:22.54 | stew | blondie: only on weekends |
| 18:22.55 | abrotman | !karstensmite blondie |
| 18:23.04 | blondie | ah |
| 18:23.06 | steve_ | i have : |
| 18:23.07 | steve_ | doom:/etc# ls -l | grep X11 |
| 18:23.08 | steve_ | drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 2006-06-03 14:25 X11 |
| 18:23.11 | steve_ | !paste |
| 18:23.11 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 18:23.41 | dman | abrotman, there are lots to choose from, not sure what to install: kernel-image-2.4.[16,18,27]-386,kernel-image-2.4.[16,18,27]-586tsc??? |
| 18:23.49 | meriad | abrotman- you gonna go fishing? |
| 18:23.57 | abrotman | dman: a 2.4 -386 |
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| 18:24.03 | Usiu | Hi |
| 18:24.06 | abrotman | meriad: bike riding i hope .. supposed to rain all damn weekend |
| 18:24.13 | meriad | abrotman- really! |
| 18:24.15 | Usiu | when there will be farsight plugin for gstreamer in debian ? |
| 18:24.16 | meriad | abrotman- the sux same here |
| 18:24.24 | meriad | abrotman- you sound like yer in Canada |
| 18:24.28 | Usiu | tapiocaui0.3: Depends: farsight0.1-plugins-rtp but it is not going to be installed |
| 18:24.30 | meriad | it rains everyday here |
| 18:24.46 | sanders | tarzeau: Is this a script for /etc/init.d? What exactly does it do? |
| 18:24.51 | abrotman | meriad: near philly |
| 18:24.56 | dman | because of what abrotman?? |
| 18:25.07 | abrotman | dman: the speed of your CPU is rather low |
| 18:25.12 | abrotman | dman: how much RAM ? |
| 18:25.22 | steve_ | everything in /usr/X11R6/bin/, /usr/bin/X11/s, and /etc/X11 has read permissions for everyone |
| 18:25.32 | dman | abrotman, 40M |
| 18:25.33 | tarzeau | sanders: yes it's for /etc/init.d/ it downloads the kernel source to your kernel, nvidia driver and builds/loads the driver |
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| 18:25.50 | ferris_ | steve_ hmmmn |
| 18:25.56 | tarzeau | sanders: everytime you upgrade your kernel... |
| 18:25.56 | dman | abrotman, pentium I is considered -386 kernelwise then? |
| 18:26.00 | abrotman | dman: yeah .. i'd go with a 2.4 .. i have a 486 at home with 36MB running a 2.6 kernel .. it's not very snappy |
| 18:26.04 | tarzeau | sanders: works for 2.4 and 2.6 linux kernels |
| 18:26.16 | abrotman | dman: yeah .. i think in debian it is |
| 18:26.28 | abrotman | dman: you can try the 586tsc .. see if ti works |
| 18:26.29 | ferris_ | steve_ is it possible that your profile is screwed? |
| 18:26.30 | fwest | a 486? i tell ya what i have a load of pIII we want to dump you can have one |
| 18:26.32 | sanders | tarzeau: Oh, cool. Thanks |
| 18:26.38 | tarzeau | sanders: good luck |
| 18:26.43 | abrotman | fwest: it was my first computer :) |
| 18:26.46 | ferris_ | can you startx under a new user? |
| 18:26.51 | steve_ | maybe |
| 18:26.56 | fwest | my first computer was a BBC B+ |
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| 18:27.08 | steve_ | i noticed, also, that right after i installed i did chkrootkit and got ... |
| 18:27.10 | steve_ | Checking `scalper'... Warning: Possible Scalper Worm installed |
| 18:27.11 | fwest | in 1984 or 3 |
| 18:27.12 | fwest | i forget |
| 18:27.20 | abrotman | fwest: no .. my first that was actually my own .. my family had many |
| 18:27.42 | ferris_ | steve_ i am not familiar with scalper |
| 18:27.45 | fwest | that was my own |
| 18:27.50 | ferris_ | maybe someoen else is |
| 18:28.05 | dragan | my debian sarge installation gets stuck at "Starting PC card services..." when trying "linux26 nopcmcia", is there any other flags i could try??? |
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| 18:28.33 | abrotman | dragan: tried both kernels? |
| 18:28.41 | ferris_ | steve_ still I would try to create the new profile and try starting the pc under that profile |
| 18:29.18 | dragan | abrotman: just 2.6 because 2.4 does not seem to recognize the sata drive. |
| 18:29.31 | abrotman | dragan: oh ... gotcha |
| 18:29.36 | abrotman | dragan: ask #debian-boot |
| 18:29.37 | steve_ | err i see the problem |
| 18:29.51 | dragan | abrotman: thanks! |
| 18:29.55 | steve_ | i kept missing the output but when i ssh'd in with putty i caught the whole thing |
| 18:30.05 | ferris_ | kewl |
| 18:30.07 | steve_ | /usr/bin/X11/startx: line 132: cannot create temp file for here document: No space left on device |
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| 18:30.30 | ALVAN | df -h |
| 18:30.34 | meriad | abrotman- oh yer in Mediaaa? |
| 18:30.36 | ALVAN | see if /tmp is full |
| 18:30.40 | ALVAN | steve_, |
| 18:30.41 | steve_ | im sure it is |
| 18:30.49 | daqqal | damn |
| 18:30.52 | daqqal | my hair |
| 18:31.03 | steve_ | it was very close when i installed to being full. it was a cheapy 4gig HD i bought just for testing stuff out on |
| 18:31.07 | daqqal | i don't need to damn fop |
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| 18:31.13 | abrotman | meriad: close to it .. |
| 18:31.14 | ALVAN | then erased something you dont need |
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| 18:31.19 | meriad | abrotman- i was born in Media |
| 18:31.29 | steve_ | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 18:31.29 | steve_ | /dev/hdb6 3.5G 3.4G 0 100% / |
| 18:31.30 | meriad | abrotman- Riddle Memorial hospital, I doubt you've ever heard of it but ya, i was born there :) |
| 18:31.36 | steve_ | :D |
| 18:31.38 | steve_ | whoops |
| 18:31.49 | abrotman | meriad: i don't make it to Media often |
| 18:32.26 | meriad | abrotman- its a nice area, my uncle lives there |
| 18:32.37 | abrotman | it should be .. |
| 18:32.43 | mbishop | anyone know why my radeon driver won't let me go to 1280x1024 all of a sudden? |
| 18:32.45 | dafresh | hi all, i need to do data mirroring by network between 2 server, anyone have goods feeds back on a particular app ? |
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| 18:33.11 | meriad | abrotman- :) |
| 18:33.14 | meriad | abrotman- you must sound funny |
| 18:33.22 | meriad | abrotman- my aunt and uncle has funny penny accents :) |
| 18:33.26 | setcode | hello |
| 18:33.55 | anaximander | Does anybody know why apt-get build-dep valknut does not work? |
| 18:33.57 | abrotman | meriad: i don't have a PA accent .. i have lived in MI, MD, ME, and PA |
| 18:34.06 | meriad | ahh quite the places |
| 18:34.14 | meriad | i have lived in PA, WA and BC |
| 18:34.36 | steve_ | i still live in MD |
| 18:34.42 | daqqal | we're in a tight spot |
| 18:34.46 | meriad | marylando florida |
| 18:34.56 | falco_toadfoot | abrotman: ok, but I can't find the «libata»-package in any version..? |
| 18:35.01 | steve_ | ? |
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| 18:36.50 | Nigromante | Hello |
| 18:37.18 | ferris_ | what is up Nigromante |
| 18:37.33 | falco_toadfoot | abrotman: found it as kernel module, never mind |
| 18:38.02 | meriad | abrotman- biking you mentioned, did you mean dirt bikes or regular mountain biking |
| 18:38.04 | Nigromante | does anybody know when new locale packages for mozilla firefox and thunderbird are going to be available in testing? |
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| 18:39.24 | ferris_ | Nigromante, mozilla.org? |
| 18:40.06 | mbishop | anyone have recent radeon trouble with xorg 7 in unstable? |
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| 18:40.54 | Nigromante | the localized versions are available at mozilla.org, but not yet in debian (for 1.5.x) |
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| 18:42.34 | Soeki | Is it posible to install Xorg on sarge? |
| 18:42.48 | Laidback_01 | hey, I have an odd problem. I have a kernel that is compiled with RAID1 and when booting such that /dev/hda4 is / it works fine - picks up /dev/md0 (what I want my root to be) and appears to be in good shape. Now, I've rsynced from /dev/hda4 to /dev/md0 and attempted with the same kernel boot, but I always get stuck at "Warning: cannot initialize console" and it stops here. No more, no less - I DO see the raid device get brought |
| 18:42.48 | Laidback_01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.58 | lazzarello | Laidback_01, you broke your raid by rsyncing to the md device |
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| 18:44.25 | lazzarello | Laidback_01, archive hda4 and reformat md0 |
| 18:44.36 | anaximander | Soeki: probably, but see backports.org |
| 18:45.33 | Soeki | !backports.org |
| 18:45.33 | dpkg | i heard backports.org is an unofficial repository of backports for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Beware that if you add backports.org to your sources.list, you will get *all* backports when you upgrade. Read http://backports.org/instructions.html on how to only get specific backports. ask me about <backports> |
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| 18:46.39 | phaz0r | hi |
| 18:46.40 | anaximander | nah, well but in my experience using backports.org is better than compiling your own |
| 18:46.50 | phaz0r | anyone know if exist a crontab version for run tasks in seconds? |
| 18:47.04 | Laidback_01 | lazzarello Really? You can't rsync to an MD device? I've been doing it for sometime now, and didn't know there was an issue? why does rsyncing on an md device cause issues? |
| 18:47.09 | lazzarello | phaz0r, there's a sepperate package that's hi-rez |
| 18:47.10 | anaximander | but does anybody here know why apt-get build-dep could not work? |
| 18:47.12 | phaz0r | i need run script every 10 seconds :/ |
| 18:47.19 | lazzarello | Laidback_01, read the RAID howto |
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| 18:47.52 | daqqal | hey |
| 18:47.55 | daqqal | whats going on here |
| 18:48.03 | daqqal | anyone seen my keys |
| 18:48.21 | phaz0r | lazzarello yes? |
| 18:48.22 | ferris_ | yeah but i can't tell you where |
| 18:48.26 | morten | ferris_: did you figure anything out? |
| 18:48.35 | ferris_ | still upgrading |
| 18:48.36 | lazzarello | Phated, yes |
| 18:48.39 | lazzarello | sorry |
| 18:48.42 | lazzarello | phaz0r, yes |
| 18:48.49 | phaz0r | what is name of it? |
| 18:48.51 | phaz0r | u know? |
| 18:49.00 | lazzarello | !tell phaz0r about search |
| 18:49.10 | daqqal | don't need no damn fop |
| 18:49.19 | lazzarello | !u |
| 18:49.19 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:49.45 | phaz0r | heh |
| 18:49.50 | ferris_ | daqqal, you a dapper dan man? |
| 18:49.52 | phaz0r | already used search ;P |
| 18:49.55 | steve_ | ya i was gonna say |
| 18:49.56 | Maulkin | ... |
| 18:50.01 | steve_ | dutch people use 'u' a lot |
| 18:50.16 | lazzarello | phaz0r, i don't know the name |
| 18:50.22 | phaz0r | np |
| 18:50.27 | phaz0r | thanks :) |
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| 18:52.01 | daqqal | ferris_: you remember brylcream? |
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| 18:52.44 | anaximander | no they don't |
| 18:52.52 | ferris_ | not that old daqqal |
| 18:52.54 | anaximander | Dutch people use "je" a lot |
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| 18:57.05 | daqqal | is it good for buttering the old dolphin also? |
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| 18:57.20 | anaximander | ? |
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| 18:58.48 | daqqal | not at high noon |
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| 18:59.44 | steve_ | http://pics.obra.se/29c958c6e9d3d7e729cdc4b0768a3c03.jpg |
| 19:00.05 | steve_ | 8) |
| 19:00.12 | ricky_clarkson | What a crazy URL. |
| 19:01.01 | anaximander | that is a joke, right? |
| 19:01.08 | steve_ | i would hope so |
| 19:01.11 | daqqal | looks real to me |
| 19:01.24 | daqqal | no dapper dan though |
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| 19:01.32 | raf256 | so we are moving to OFTC? |
| 19:01.40 | stoned | I got a job! and a 6 inch roasted chicken breast sub! |
| 19:01.41 | raf256 | but the nice freenode channel with stay as well I hope? |
| 19:01.56 | ricky_clarkson | Somebody said breast. |
| 19:01.58 | starfishy | how can I separate the distributions in a local debian mirror (i.e. only have the packages in pool that belong to stable)? |
| 19:02.09 | raf256 | stoned: considering your nick you shold buy something more as well =) |
| 19:02.15 | starfishy | background: I have only very limited disk space on the machine the mirror goes on |
| 19:02.25 | stoned | raf256, freenode will stay as long as need be. You can either go here or oftc. |
| 19:02.36 | starfishy | i can do that manually but I wondered whether there was a way to automate that |
| 19:02.39 | stoned | raf256, in regards to #debian that is |
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| 19:02.51 | raf256 | that url - http://pics.obra.se/29c958c6e9d3d7e729cdc4b0768a3c03.jpg - is very disturbing |
| 19:03.01 | lunitik | stoned: someone should set up a chanlink bot! |
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| 19:03.17 | stoned | lunitik, no need |
| 19:03.25 | lunitik | stoned: although that'd likely be annoying due to sheer # of people |
| 19:03.31 | raf256 | lunitik: and smite some IRC client devels untill they fix the nick coloring considering such connections |
| 19:03.33 | cenobyte_evil | anyone use sawfish? |
| 19:04.00 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: haha... ew |
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| 19:05.07 | cenobyte_evil | actualy the question i should ask is, does anyone know of a stand alone task bar ish thingy... |
| 19:05.10 | lunitik | raf256: damnit... I avoided clicking it the first time it was posted :( |
| 19:05.21 | cenobyte_evil | obviously i don;t really know what i'm looking for |
| 19:05.28 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: there are many... search apt :/ |
| 19:05.35 | falco_toadfoot | is the libata in debian sarge from after or before 2005-04-15 ? |
| 19:05.35 | abrotman | meriad: i'm fairly out of shape .. i'll do some light trail riding for now |
| 19:05.56 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: aptitude search panel :/ |
| 19:06.04 | cenobyte_evil | ok |
| 19:06.14 | cenobyte_evil | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.17 | cenobyte_evil | thats it |
| 19:06.23 | cenobyte_evil | lol i feel stupid |
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| 19:07.02 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: apt-cache search finds more... aptitude only returns if its in the description... |
| 19:07.29 | cenobyte_evil | i like apt-get over aptitude |
| 19:07.31 | cenobyte_evil | faster |
| 19:07.55 | meriad | abrotman- ahh :) |
| 19:08.05 | meriad | abrotman- the only part of my body that is in shape are my wrists and hands |
| 19:08.08 | meriad | abrotman- and fingers |
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| 19:08.08 | meriad | abrotman- :) |
| 19:08.13 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: it uses the same backend things :/ |
| 19:08.21 | abrotman | meriad: i did 10 miles last weekend .. felt fine .. except my butt :) |
| 19:08.22 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: aptitude is just more intelligent :/ |
| 19:08.23 | meriad | but im thin and have a nice build anyways :) |
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| 19:08.54 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: ie, there is no difference in speed, only perception... |
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| 19:09.48 | abrotman | meriad: i'm not exactly a fat ass .. |
| 19:09.59 | meriad | abrotman- :> |
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| 19:10.00 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: aptitude does nice things like ask how to resolve issues, ordered by closeness to what you tried to do... also installs RECOMMENDS too... which is smart |
| 19:10.02 | ricky_clarkson | Not since I ran you over. |
| 19:10.03 | no0ke | how do you add a user with proftpd? |
| 19:10.04 | stoned | abrotman, jump rope lightly for 20 minutes a day, hard aerobic activity will burn off that fat like a mofo. Or, be like Richard Simmons, and "Shake that booty, shake those pounds off" |
| 19:10.05 | stoned | hehe |
| 19:10.10 | KillerBee | when debian names its packages what would be the difference between madwifi-dev and madwifi-ng-dev? |
| 19:10.11 | meriad | abrotman- i wanna open up a geek shop appreal store.. there are NONE in the Metro Vancouver area |
| 19:10.14 | no0ke | i read its manual, still don't understand it |
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| 19:10.21 | meriad | abrotman- i could make a killing since vancouver is largely comprised of geeks |
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| 19:10.35 | tarzeau | abrotman: telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 |
| 19:10.38 | starfishy | abrotman: how dare you make a mockery of the stereotype of the chubby pizza munching geek? |
| 19:10.41 | starfishy | ;) |
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| 19:10.49 | stew | where's my pizza? |
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| 19:11.02 | stoned | i've worked at papa johns and pizza hut |
| 19:11.02 | k-god | no0ke: ng is likely 'new generation' or somesuch, possibly a development fork. |
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| 19:11.09 | stoned | and after what i've seen |
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| 19:11.13 | lunitik | cenobyte_evil: also, aptitude incorporates apt-cache and apt-get commands... which makes life simpler... I like simple :) |
| 19:11.13 | stoned | I can't eat pizza anymore |
| 19:11.14 | k-god | KillerBee: ^^ |
| 19:11.19 | erudified | *why* why why why do you guys have to break compatiby with 'gem install' |
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| 19:11.25 | starfishy | stoned: so do they really make predented cars for pizza delivery? |
| 19:11.27 | abrotman | starfishy: not my fault .. blame my genes |
| 19:11.30 | erudified | compatibility (hella typo) |
| 19:11.36 | k-god | KillerBee: Which if you go to a madwifi website I think you'll find is the case. |
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| 19:11.37 | no0ke | k-god: i don't understand that shakespeare shit |
| 19:11.42 | KillerBee | k-god whats that suposed to mean ? |
| 19:11.42 | starfishy | abrotman: im not that stereotype either, 6'7 and 208 lbs |
| 19:11.48 | abrotman | freak |
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| 19:11.55 | k-god | KillerBee: ^^ == read my prior misdirected post to no0ke |
| 19:11.56 | erudified | starfishy, I've always thought it was pretty shitty that they make delivery drivers pay their own insurance and provide a car |
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| 19:11.58 | abrotman | tarzeau: why am i watching you play nethack /. |
| 19:12.00 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:12.01 | k-god | abrotman: You called? |
| 19:12.14 | no0ke | k-god: what the fuck are you talkin abou? |
| 19:12.15 | no0ke | t |
| 19:12.16 | abrotman | k-god: i said "freak" |
| 19:12.17 | starfishy | erudified: given the way the cars look it may not be such a bad idea |
| 19:12.24 | k-god | abrotman: I said "you called?" |
| 19:12.25 | meriad | starfishy- one of your relatives attached to my face at the beach and wouldnt let go, i was running around like a chicken for abotu 5 minutes before my girlfriend finally tore it off |
| 19:12.27 | tarzeau | abrotman: because you're bored? |
| 19:12.29 | starfishy | ... and given the way they drive |
| 19:12.31 | abrotman | k-god: hehe |
| 19:12.33 | k-god | no0ke: Misattributed. |
| 19:12.43 | erudified | meriad, that's easily the sexiest story I've heard all day |
| 19:12.49 | meriad | erudified- hahaah |
| 19:12.51 | starfishy | meriad: that was mean of him ;) |
| 19:12.53 | meriad | erudified- :> |
| 19:13.00 | meriad | starfishy- I KNOW I WAS FURIOUS |
| 19:13.03 | meriad | starfishy- it was scary! |
| 19:13.09 | abrotman | it's a freaking starfish |
| 19:13.11 | meriad | whatever |
| 19:13.12 | meriad | its gross |
| 19:13.14 | meriad | and slimy |
| 19:13.17 | meriad | and it was pooing all over me |
| 19:13.17 | erudified | it loves you |
| 19:13.21 | meriad | or whatever that stuff it discretes |
| 19:13.27 | meriad | erudified- and my girflriend was bitterly jealous |
| 19:13.38 | erudified | im jealous too |
| 19:13.41 | meriad | erudified- everytime we are intimate im constnatly thinking about that 5 minutes with that starfish |
| 19:13.43 | starfishy | hehehe |
| 19:13.45 | erudified | i always get hooked up with crustaceans |
| 19:14.03 | meriad | curstaceanality is hot |
| 19:14.07 | abrotman | meriad: that wasn't poo .. that was its stomach |
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| 19:14.15 | meriad | abrotman- ok thats really gross |
| 19:14.16 | starfishy | only sea critter i had a disagreement with so far was some poisonous fish that bit my foot |
| 19:14.18 | meriad | abrotman- and why was it leaking |
| 19:14.23 | tarzeau | rohan: hi |
| 19:14.28 | rohan | can someone please confirm this bug for me ? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369965 |
| 19:14.31 | netman1 | Hi All. Dowloaded an iso, md5sum checked out ok, burned it to dvd and ran md5sum /dev/hdc. That md5sum is not the same compared to the downloaded file. How do I (correctly) md5sum the dvd? |
| 19:14.34 | felipefda | There is anyone here .... Can help me with Wireless at Laptop Dell D400... ??? |
| 19:14.36 | rohan | tarzeau: hi :) |
| 19:14.40 | abrotman | meriad: that's the stomach .. starfish expel their stomach .. surround thier food in it .. digest .. suck back in |
| 19:14.41 | KillerBee | ah thx for the explanation |
| 19:14.56 | meriad | abrotman- uhh eww |
| 19:14.56 | erudified | you know, I've actually never *seen* the ocean |
| 19:15.00 | meriad | abrotman- are you meaning to say it was trying to each me? |
| 19:15.06 | meriad | abrotman- eat me |
| 19:15.09 | meriad | abrotman- or digest me |
| 19:15.11 | abrotman | meriad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish#Digestion_and_excretion .. yes .. possibly |
| 19:15.18 | meriad | abrotman- ahhahahaha |
| 19:15.21 | meriad | abrotman- thats gross |
| 19:15.34 | meriad | abrotman- it would take 600 starfish to eat me |
| 19:15.37 | meriad | abrotman- :() |
| 19:15.41 | valdyn | netman1: you dont, you md5sum the easy and 'cmp iso /dev/hdc' |
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| 19:15.47 | valdyn | netman1: you dont, you md5sum the ISO and 'cmp iso /dev/hdc' |
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| 19:15.53 | abrotman | meriad: or one very large one |
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| 19:15.59 | netman1 | valdyn: Thanks. |
| 19:16.05 | dafresh | hi all, i need to do data mirroring by network between 2 server, anyone have goods feeds back on some app ? |
| 19:16.18 | erudified | "Once the stomach is inserted inside the shell it digests the mollusk in place." |
| 19:16.19 | valdyn | netman1: hdc should be larger than that iso |
| 19:16.21 | erudified | That's *badass* |
| 19:16.22 | abrotman | meriad: if you read that link .. a starfish can eat a mussel |
| 19:16.25 | ferris_ | this sux, i have been upgrading for hours now! |
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| 19:16.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: and seahorses? |
| 19:16.39 | erudified | I wish I could just stick my stomach inside a cow and forgo all that pesky barbecuing and shit |
| 19:16.45 | smagy2 | hello folks, the output of lsof shows something like this [heap] (stat: No such file or directory) for all the major daemons running including init |
| 19:16.46 | abrotman | tarzeau: it'd have to be able to catch one |
| 19:16.46 | tarzeau | btw do seaponies exist? |
| 19:16.50 | meriad | abrotman- and im what, 2000x the size of a muscle? |
| 19:16.50 | erudified | that'd make a pretty wicked music video |
| 19:16.51 | netman1 | valdyn: Wondered about that too ;-) Thanks again. |
| 19:16.53 | smagy2 | would appreciate some help |
| 19:17.00 | meriad | abrotman- mussel even |
| 19:17.04 | abrotman | meriad: it's also surrounded by a hard shell .. you're not |
| 19:17.11 | erudified | some heavy metal in the background; a dude running aroudn vomiting his stomach into cow's mouths and sucking them dry |
| 19:17.45 | stake | um a question: for the amd athlon 64 3000+, I should use the i386 version of debian? |
| 19:17.57 | erudified | stake, you can |
| 19:17.58 | meriad | abrotman- but skin is very durable |
| 19:18.02 | meriad | abrotman- and stretchs |
| 19:18.05 | valdyn | stake: yep |
| 19:18.08 | k-god | valdyn: SHA<n> for n > 1 is preferred to md5sum. md5 collisions are pretty doable these days. |
| 19:18.10 | meriad | abrotman- hard shells crack easier |
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| 19:18.18 | meriad | abrotman- soft vs hard both have advatnages and disadvantages |
| 19:18.20 | felipefda | There is anyone here .... Can help me with Wireless at Laptop Dell D400... ??? |
| 19:18.20 | k-god | stake: k[67], not sure which. |
| 19:18.22 | stake | ok thanks. is tha ia64 more appropriate or? |
| 19:18.31 | k-god | stake: Erm. amd64 arch. |
| 19:18.32 | starfishy | what kind of wireless does it have? |
| 19:18.32 | valdyn | k-god: i think netman already had that md5sum |
| 19:18.35 | morten | ferris_: any idea when you'll be done with that upgrade? |
| 19:18.37 | erudified | stake, amd64 might be faster for some applications, and a k7 kernel would be best if you went with the i386 dist |
| 19:18.44 | stake | ah very well :) |
| 19:18.51 | ferris_ | morten, i am thinking about hell freezing over |
| 19:18.51 | stake | much obliged! take care |
| 19:18.53 | meriad | abrotman- needless to say, i can say with utmost certainty that any starfish trying to digest me would be wasting its time, in the word of the borg, ingesting a human is futile especailyl for an animal that size :) |
| 19:18.54 | initiate | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 4.008/26.316/81.520/22.744 ms - does that look right for a Gateway ping stats? |
| 19:19.07 | erudified | meriad, rome wasn't built in a day =D |
| 19:19.08 | k-god | valdyn: Point, if that's what you've got use it. However md5 should not be considered wholly secure. |
| 19:19.14 | starfishy | i had a butterfly try to eat me |
| 19:19.18 | meriad | erudified- it was too havent you read the bible? |
| 19:19.22 | valdyn | k-god: its ok for his purpose |
| 19:19.25 | erudified | i can't win =( |
| 19:19.29 | ferris_ | morten, we both may retire before it is finished |
| 19:19.34 | meriad | erudified- no you cant :| bibleology conqures all logic |
| 19:19.40 | ferris_ | it is setting up totem now |
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| 19:19.47 | valdyn | k-god: i.e. veryfing that he downloaded correctly, not that that ISO is provable the right ISO |
| 19:20.01 | stoned | what other linux/unix distros you guy suse for personal stuff, not work or job. |
| 19:20.06 | stoned | guys use* |
| 19:20.11 | work-rockstar | Crap, I need some help purging a borked deb from apt. It's high centered and won't install back and won't completely remove. Can someone help? |
| 19:20.20 | tarzeau | stoned: OPENSTEP, debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 19:20.22 | ferris_ | stoned, debian only |
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| 19:20.29 | meriad | stoned- shouldnt you say "peoples" i think there are some females in this channel you sexist hog :> |
| 19:20.34 | Petfrogg | hello |
| 19:20.36 | erudified | hahaha work-rockstar, a high-centered deb? great analogy |
| 19:20.43 | Petfrogg | i wonder something - in order to save space |
| 19:20.55 | stoned | meriad, if you have a problem with what I said, then thats too bad. /me rephrases to 'persons' |
| 19:20.56 | Petfrogg | can i delete stuff in /var/cache/apt/archive? |
| 19:20.56 | stoned | happy :) |
| 19:21.02 | meriad | stoned- hehe sure |
| 19:21.06 | valdyn | k-god: but.. i got your point, ive read about md5 insecureness ) |
| 19:21.10 | work-rockstar | erudified, seriously... It won't go away, but it's keeping me from fixing some stuff. Trying to set up egroupware, but apparently it doesn't like mysql 5 |
| 19:21.13 | k-god | Petfrogg: aptitute clean or aptitude autoclean |
| 19:21.14 | Petfrogg | i mean - it is aallready installed? |
| 19:21.24 | k-god | Petfrogg: man aptitude. Or apt-get as alternate. /msg dpkg aptitude |
| 19:21.36 | no0ke | ok, let's say i wanted to add a user 'name1234' on the group 'http', how'd i do that? |
| 19:21.36 | work-rockstar | Petfrogg , or apt-get clean |
| 19:21.38 | k-god | valdyn: yeah, the idea is to spread the word and raise conciousness. |
| 19:21.51 | k-god | no0ke: man adduser |
| 19:21.53 | erudified | for i in $(dpkg -L package); do rm -fr $i; done; vim /var/lib/dpkg/status (in vim) /broken_package_name |
| 19:21.59 | erudified | set the broken package to uninstalled |
| 19:22.04 | erudified | and then go get sloshed |
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| 19:22.10 | work-rockstar | Can someone help me to completely purge a package from apt? My apt sources are toast without it. |
| 19:22.11 | meriad | erudified- you've never been to a ocean before? |
| 19:22.14 | meriad | erudified- that is strang |
| 19:22.15 | meriad | erudified- that is strange |
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| 19:22.39 | Petfrogg | thanx |
| 19:22.40 | erudified | work-rockstar, for i in $(dpkg -L package); do rm -fr $i; done; vim /var/lib/dpkg/status (in vim) /broken_package_name |
| 19:22.42 | sid | Is java free software yet? |
| 19:22.56 | valdyn | sid: no |
| 19:22.57 | erudified | work-rockstar, then set the broken package to uninstalled |
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| 19:23.15 | abrotman | sid: never will be |
| 19:23.21 | stoned | sid, there are many free jvms |
| 19:23.27 | abrotman | well .. *never* is strong .. but i odn't excpect sun to make it OSS |
| 19:23.28 | sid | abrotman: But they "promised" |
| 19:23.32 | valdyn | sid: 'java' is free, sun's java is not |
| 19:23.33 | stoned | I don't think you're interested in that, nm, you mean developing |
| 19:23.34 | stoned | hmm |
| 19:23.36 | erudified | i love that bash quote: 'the really interesting thing about java is that it's so slow' |
| 19:23.36 | abrotman | sid: Sun lies .. get with the times |
| 19:23.37 | no0ke | what's the diff between 'useradd' and 'adduser' ? |
| 19:23.38 | tarzeau | sid: learn objective-c |
| 19:23.49 | tarzeau | no0ke: try which useradd and which adduser |
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| 19:23.55 | sid | no0ke: nothing iirc |
| 19:23.55 | no0ke | what? |
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| 19:24.04 | stoned | no0ke, which == command |
| 19:24.09 | stoned | lol |
| 19:24.09 | erudified | no-exit, `which useradd` |
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| 19:24.13 | cippuz | hi to all |
| 19:24.30 | cippuz | I'm a newbie user of etch debian |
| 19:24.36 | sid | !greet cippuz |
| 19:24.37 | dpkg | Salutations, cippuz |
| 19:24.47 | erudified | cippuz, man why didn't you go with testing? |
| 19:24.49 | cippuz | and I would install my wifi card |
| 19:25.00 | starfishy | etch = testing |
| 19:25.00 | cippuz | boh, a friend suggested me etch |
| 19:25.06 | erudified | oh, lol |
| 19:25.09 | erudified | I thought etch was unstable |
| 19:25.11 | ferris_ | some friend! |
| 19:25.12 | ferris_ | lol |
| 19:25.14 | starfishy | sid is unstable |
| 19:25.20 | stew | no0ke: in most cases you want to use adduser which does stuff like create home directories, useradd only edits /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow iirc |
| 19:25.25 | erudified | the naming scheme is too complex for me |
| 19:25.30 | starfishy | ferris_, why? testing is not that bad |
| 19:25.31 | sid | cippuz: What wifi vard do you have? |
| 19:25.38 | cippuz | ipw2200 |
| 19:25.41 | erudified | yeah testing rocks it |
| 19:25.44 | sid | !ipw2200 |
| 19:25.44 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, To install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. You will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) package, and contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200. It is built in to kernels >= 2.6.15 and will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 19:25.50 | stew | cippuz: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 19:26.03 | meriad | stew- please insert quarters |
| 19:26.07 | cippuz | 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 19:26.20 | stew | cippuz: all you should need to do then is download firmware from ipw2200.sf.net and put the firmware in /lib/firmware and modprobe ipw2200 |
| 19:26.31 | cippuz | i've already tried to install it |
| 19:26.39 | stew | cippuz: install what exactly? |
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| 19:26.42 | cippuz | but i've got some errors |
| 19:26.49 | starfishy | what errors? |
| 19:27.02 | morten | is bind9 overkill for LAN DNS? |
| 19:27.13 | stoned | mornfall, djbdns |
| 19:27.21 | stoned | morten, djbdns check it |
| 19:27.28 | valdyn | morten: no, but learning the syntax of its db files might be |
| 19:27.42 | valdyn | morten: dnsmasq may be alot easier to learn |
| 19:27.57 | meriad | pat benetar rips off black sabbath that irks me |
| 19:28.03 | cippuz | i put the firmware in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware |
| 19:28.04 | stoned | I want to grow up and be a DNS server |
| 19:28.13 | morten | valdyn: it says dnsmasq also does dhcp. i'm already running dhcp3. would it conflict? |
| 19:28.18 | stew | cippuz: do you have hotplug or udev installed? |
| 19:28.31 | stew | cippuz: if you have udev you need to put it in /lib/firmware instead |
| 19:28.34 | cippuz | ehm...i dont' know |
| 19:28.35 | valdyn | morten: no, you do not have to use its dhcp feature |
| 19:28.44 | work-rockstar | stoned, you and me both... |
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| 19:28.46 | cippuz | how can i know that |
| 19:28.47 | cippuz | ? |
| 19:28.53 | stew | cippuz: "dpkg -l hotplug udev" which starts with "ii" ? |
| 19:28.57 | morten | valdyn: also, i'm rather fond of applications specifically designed for a single task. is the dns feature of dnsmasq any lesser for trying to do both dns and dhcp? |
| 19:29.31 | valdyn | morten: no |
| 19:29.40 | cippuz | I think I've udev |
| 19:29.42 | cippuz | Desiderato=sconosciUto/Installato/Rimosso/P:eliminato/H:bloccato |
| 19:29.42 | cippuz | | Stato=Non/Installato/file Config./U:spacchett./conf. Fallita/H:inst.parzial. |
| 19:29.42 | cippuz | |/ Err?=(nessuno)/H:bloc./necess.Reinst./X=entrambi (Stato,Err: maiusc.=grave) |
| 19:29.43 | cippuz | ||/ Nome Versione Descrizione |
| 19:29.43 | cippuz | +++-==============-==============-============================================ |
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| 19:30.14 | anisFarhana | greetings all :) |
| 19:30.16 | morten | valdyn: is setting up bind9 doable tho, or am i just setting myself up for a lot of grief? |
| 19:30.33 | anisFarhana | how to install tcl in my system ? apt-get install tcl ? |
| 19:30.39 | valdyn | morten: depends on your prior knowledge |
| 19:30.53 | morten | valdyn: on dns? slim. |
| 19:30.57 | morten | never set up a DNS server before. |
| 19:31.13 | stoned | morten, check out djbdns |
| 19:31.15 | valdyn | morten: apt-get install dnsmasq is easy, just try it, you can still learn bind9 |
| 19:31.32 | valdyn | stoned: djbdns is not free software and not in debian? |
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| 19:31.33 | morten | stoned: i only foun djbdns as source :( |
| 19:31.54 | stoned | valdyn, while true, it is quite useful nonetheless |
| 19:32.04 | stoned | but if you want, I can stop suggessting non-free |
| 19:32.23 | morten | i have non-free in my depository. but i still only found it as source. |
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| 19:32.41 | cippuz | sorry |
| 19:32.48 | cippuz | i disconnected |
| 19:33.06 | morten | why is it called non-free, anyway? |
| 19:33.11 | morten | doesn't seem to cost anything... |
| 19:33.11 | cippuz | anyway, i installed ipw2200-fw-2.4.tgz, ieee80211-1.1.13.tgz and ipw2200-1.1.2.tgz from source |
| 19:33.11 | stoned | well I didn't mean 'non-free' I meant NOT FREE |
| 19:33.13 | stoned | hehe |
| 19:33.14 | valdyn | morten: its not distributable in binary form because of its license |
| 19:33.23 | valdyn | morten: and that is why its non-free |
| 19:33.23 | Tassium | morten: free doesn't always mean money |
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| 19:33.32 | stew | morten: non-free contains software that doesn't meet the dfsg /msg dpkg dfsg |
| 19:33.36 | morten | Tassium: what does it mean? |
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| 19:33.57 | stew | morten: DJBs software is considered non-free becuase debian is not free to distribute the binaries in a way they see fit |
| 19:34.08 | morten | does this mean that not everyone and his grandmother can make changes to the code? |
| 19:34.23 | ryan` | bjb's software does not have a license. |
| 19:34.24 | cippuz | someone can help me about installing ipw2200? |
| 19:34.27 | valdyn | morten: you can, but you cannot distribute changed code |
| 19:34.31 | stew | morten: no. it means that in this case once you change the code you can no longer distribute binaries |
| 19:34.35 | morten | rite. that's what i figured. |
| 19:34.41 | stew | !tell cippuz about flood |
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| 19:34.46 | stew | cippuz: mv the firmware to /lib/firmware ; modprobe -r ipw2200 ; modprobe ipw2200 ; and see what dmesg has to say |
| 19:34.52 | ryan` | there are some very limited allowances for redistribution... |
| 19:35.09 | cippuz | ok |
| 19:35.10 | Tassium | I'm not real familiar with DJB's license.. Is that why there seems to be a billion patches to qmail? |
| 19:35.17 | stew | morten: all you need is a proxying dns server? or do you need to serve some zones or what? |
| 19:35.19 | ryan` | Tassium, yes. |
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| 19:35.31 | valdyn | Tassium: yes, cant distribute modified source, but can distribute patches, naturally |
| 19:35.38 | morten | stew: i just wanna be able to do simple stuff like 'ssh server.morten' etc |
| 19:35.42 | Tassium | Sheesh, why would he license it that way |
| 19:35.51 | ryan` | Tassium, He's an asshat. |
| 19:35.55 | lepton | Tassium: cr.yp.to - read all about it |
| 19:35.56 | morten | local dns, that is |
| 19:35.57 | sid | yep, definitely an asshat |
| 19:35.59 | Phlexonance | I had winXP and Suse on a system and installed ubuntu, afterwards when booting winXP I get the error that the <windows root>\system32\hal.dll is missing but it is there, I already have replaced it with a new one but it still keeps saying that, I guess it cant find the real windows root directory or something like that. does anyone know this problem and what the real cause is? something with the bootloader |
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| 19:36.10 | sid | !tell Phlexonance about ubuntu |
| 19:36.14 | stoned | morten, you don't need a dns. If it is a home lan, just make use of /etc/hosts |
| 19:36.19 | ferris_ | morten, be back in a bit |
| 19:36.28 | cippuz | i've got errors like this:ipw2200: disagrees about version of symbol alloc_ieee80211 |
| 19:36.28 | cippuz | ipw2200: Unknown symbol alloc_ieee80211 |
| 19:36.35 | stoned | morten, supposing its just a network at home with a few pcs |
| 19:36.44 | morten | stoned: three computers |
| 19:36.46 | ryan` | Tassium, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License-free_software |
| 19:36.51 | stoned | morten, screw dns, just use /etc/hosts |
| 19:36.56 | lepton | hmm. an asshat who has gone to court against the US goverment. which puts him in a select minority |
| 19:36.58 | stew | cippuz: did you actually compile ipw2200 or are you using the ipw2200 that came with the kernel? |
| 19:37.04 | Phlexonance | well thanks sid, this is really a ubuntu based question |
| 19:37.05 | morten | stoned: would that work for the windows computer as well? |
| 19:37.09 | Phlexonance | -.- |
| 19:37.12 | cippuz | i compiled it |
| 19:37.13 | lepton | s/goverment/government/ |
| 19:37.29 | cippuz | but i don't know if i have already it on kernel |
| 19:37.33 | MidgetSpy | morten: yep |
| 19:37.41 | stew | cippuz: you shoudn't compile it, its included in the 2.6.15 kernel. try reinstalling the kernel and try again with the firmware in the right place |
| 19:37.45 | ryan` | Tassium, He is an asshat, but is partilay forgiven due to releasing some nice software and telling the US government to piss off. |
| 19:37.47 | MidgetSpy | just have to edit the hosts file on the windows computer as well |
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| 19:38.02 | morten | MidgetSpy: where is the hosts file on a windows computer? |
| 19:38.07 | ryan` | http://cr.yp.to/softwarelaw.html |
| 19:38.20 | cippuz | stew: so, how can i do to re-install kernel? |
| 19:38.23 | lepton | ok, everyone in the channel who has gone to court against "United States", raise your hand |
| 19:38.30 | stew | morten: $WINDOWS/system32/drivers/etc/hosts but that's not really on topic here |
| 19:38.38 | morten | i suppose not |
| 19:38.40 | stew | cippuz: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) |
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| 19:38.51 | Tassium | lepton: I haven't, but I do have an FBI file |
| 19:38.53 | MidgetSpy | morten: yeah, what he said |
| 19:38.54 | stoned | mornfall, go to c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts <-- this is windows hosts file. you can place your computer name + ip in here and in /etc/hosts in linux boxes. 5 min or less worth of work and you'll have ping blah. like I had this in my hosts, and all I do is ping router, ping desktop, ping laptop, etc. where in /etc/hosts router resolves to 192.168.1.1 |
| 19:38.55 | ricky_clarkson | Everyone interested in telekinesis, raise my hand. |
| 19:38.55 | stoned | etc. |
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| 19:39.10 | mbishop | can someone tell me if there are any new bugs in Xorg in unstable? starting X makes my screen bigger than the default resolution, and I have viewport and virtual set correct, still makes the screen bigger |
| 19:39.17 | morten | how much performance hit would running a full-fledged dns server have on my server? |
| 19:39.20 | Tassium | ricky_clarkson: I'll go to your telekinesis conference if you come to my ESP conference. You know where and when. |
| 19:39.28 | valdyn | morten: none |
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| 19:39.31 | stoned | morten, you don't need one and none |
| 19:39.43 | Tassium | morten: Negligible. Especially with the very little load you're talking about putting on it. |
| 19:39.44 | morten | stoned: but wouldn't it be cool, tho? |
| 19:40.00 | ricky_clarkson | Tassium: You should work on controlling those dreams about your cousin. |
| 19:40.01 | stoned | morten, rule of the thumb, don't run services you can do without |
| 19:40.19 | morten | Tassium: even tho it would be doing the same job as my ISPs DNS server does now? |
| 19:40.25 | nix | hi guys. i'm a bit puzzled, i think i'm overlooking something simple. I've created a raid5 (/dev/md0) device out of 4 HDs. works fine, /proc/mdstat reports that its building nicely. I created a partition on the md0 device, which cfdisk reports to be md0p1. now the tricky bit: where is md0p1? there's only /dev/md0, no /dev/md0p1. do i need to reboot? i tried both without udev and with udev - same result |
| 19:40.26 | morten | stoned: i guess that's a good point |
| 19:40.34 | morten | i get carried away like that ^^ |
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| 19:40.47 | Tassium | ricky_clarkson: I'm in the South.. She's also my sister and mother. |
| 19:40.52 | stoned | oooh, going to drop off the kids at the pool damn, later |
| 19:41.18 | argent | nix, i think you need to create the device |
| 19:41.26 | cippuz | stew: i reboot |
| 19:41.29 | ryan` | Tassium, why do you have an FBI file, and how do you know? |
| 19:41.31 | ricky_clarkson | Tassium: I know. |
| 19:41.33 | Usiu | Hi I have a problem with netinstall on IBM BladeCenter 8677 I installes but after reboot I get /dev/console not found kernel panic Any help plz!? |
| 19:41.34 | stew | cippuz: you don't need to |
| 19:41.53 | cippuz | i receiver a blue screen that said this |
| 19:41.56 | ricky_clarkson | Telepathy makes IRC dull. |
| 19:42.00 | Tassium | ryan`: I wasn't born in the US, and I was naturalized this year. Part of the process involves getting fingerprinted, which goes in an FBI file somewhere in a dark gloomy building. |
| 19:42.02 | cippuz | received* |
| 19:42.11 | ryan` | Tassium, I see. |
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| 19:42.19 | stew | cippuz: you dont' need to |
| 19:42.22 | dman | Arafangion, valdyn: i think I'll go for the kernel-image-2.4-586tsc. it should always refer to the latest kernel image for the classic p1 |
| 19:42.23 | cippuz | ok |
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| 19:42.28 | valdyn | nix: you should use lvm on that raid iirc |
| 19:42.29 | morten | Tassium: why would you want a US citizenship if you weren't born with it? |
| 19:42.32 | cippuz | so what i do? |
| 19:42.33 | junix|work | anyone know where to find the gsnes9x server? |
| 19:42.36 | Usiu | I have a problem with netinstall of Debian on IBM BladeCenter 8677 It installs fine but after reboot I get /dev/console not found kernel panic Any help plz!? |
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| 19:42.49 | charzero | ryan`: what state makes you do that? |
| 19:42.51 | argent | junix|work: use zsnes instead |
| 19:42.53 | ryan` | CA |
| 19:42.59 | argent | it is way better than snes9x |
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| 19:43.01 | starfishy | morten: maybe so you don't have to stuff $xxxx down the state department's throat every x years? |
| 19:43.07 | ryan` | started a year or two ago. |
| 19:43.19 | Tassium | morten: Politics aside, it's where I now live. If I'm gonna live here, I'm darn well gonna be able to vote. |
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| 19:43.33 | morten | Tassium: i suppose. where are you really from? |
| 19:43.38 | Tassium | Canada |
| 19:43.44 | morten | haha. good call, then. |
| 19:43.46 | ryan` | Tassium, If voting acomplished anything it'd be illegal. |
| 19:43.50 | starfishy | tassium: how long did it take you? |
| 19:43.55 | cippuz | stew:what can i do now? |
| 19:43.57 | nix | valdyn: as in dmsetup? i planned to do that but its not really needed. one big partition would do, so i guess i can just as well use md0 then and skip partitions. right? :) |
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| 19:44.06 | stoned | voting does accomplish thing |
| 19:44.10 | Tassium | starfishy: Almost 2 years from actual filing of the application |
| 19:44.22 | mbishop | Anyone know why xorg in unstable wants to use a virtual screen size bigger than my resolution? |
| 19:44.25 | ryan` | I'm being cynical.... |
| 19:44.35 | Usiu | Any help on that ?! |
| 19:44.36 | starfishy | Tassium, I currently have a green card and they told me after 5 years i can apply for citizenship |
| 19:44.44 | Tassium | starfishy: That's correct |
| 19:44.52 | valdyn | nix: as in the packages lvm10 or lvm2, depending on your kernel |
| 19:44.54 | stoned | its what the upper 1% want to you believe, that voting doesn't make a difference, so you believe it, and not vote. Scre up the country. Hell, more americans voted on american idol then they did on the elections |
| 19:44.55 | ryan` | Usiu, create the device? |
| 19:45.04 | stew | cippuz: modprobe -r ipw2200 ; modprobe ipw2200 and see what dmesg says (assuming you already moved the firmware) |
| 19:45.23 | valdyn | nix: dmsetup is something else.. |
| 19:45.26 | ryan` | stoned, also, nobody cares about the election fraud. |
| 19:45.29 | starfishy | voting does make sense |
| 19:45.30 | stoned | exactly |
| 19:45.34 | Tassium | Don't get me started on Diebold |
| 19:45.35 | Usiu | ryan`, how ? |
| 19:45.40 | Usiu | ryan`, I cant boot it now |
| 19:45.40 | stoned | I vote for debian |
| 19:45.43 | stoned | Debian for president |
| 19:45.44 | stoned | ahem |
| 19:45.46 | valdyn | nix: yea you could |
| 19:45.46 | ryan` | Usiu, read the manpage for mknod |
| 19:45.56 | ryan` | Usiu, boot cd |
| 19:46.03 | Usiu | ryan`, ok and ? |
| 19:46.10 | nix | valdyn, well, either/or i guess i can skip lvm/dmsetup if i just stick with 1 big partition. i'll go mkfs.xfs:) thx |
| 19:46.13 | toufeliz | how to install alsa? |
| 19:46.19 | stoned | toufeliz, apt-get install alsa |
| 19:46.24 | starfishy | has anyone here used debian as the distribution for a beowulf cluster |
| 19:46.25 | starfishy | ? |
| 19:46.29 | Tassium | nix: I wish I'd done that instead of going with ext3 :( *sob* |
| 19:46.30 | stoned | toufeliz, then sudo alsaconf |
| 19:46.34 | valdyn | nix: you can create several smaller raids across your 4 disks, or one big raid with lvm on top |
| 19:46.36 | cippuz | stew: first of all, modprobe give me a error message:"FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)" |
| 19:46.42 | toufeliz | stoned, but it doesn't install alsa-modules |
| 19:46.47 | valdyn | nix: or just one big raid with no partitions, naturally |
| 19:46.52 | stoned | toufeliz, then install alsa-modules |
| 19:46.54 | Usiu | ryan`, boot cd and ? |
| 19:46.55 | ryan` | Usiu, I'm sorry, I don't have time to walk you through it step by step right now. |
| 19:46.55 | stew | cippuz: ok, maybe you do actually need to reboot |
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| 19:46.57 | charzero | stoned: more americans did NOT vote for american idol. more votes were cast, but many people voted multiple times. |
| 19:47.02 | nix | valdyn, heh, thats what i ment;) |
| 19:47.05 | toufeliz | stoned, but i can't find that |
| 19:47.12 | stoned | toufeliz, distro? |
| 19:47.18 | toufeliz | debian sarge |
| 19:47.20 | starfishy | how can I vote to get American Idol off the air? |
| 19:47.20 | toufeliz | rev2 |
| 19:47.24 | ryan` | Usiu, I will be around over the weekend, an I could help you then. |
| 19:47.27 | stoned | toufeliz, apt-get install alsa should provide all you need |
| 19:47.38 | Tassium | starfishy: Well, if you have Tivo then your viewing habits will indicate that you don't watch it ;) |
| 19:47.42 | toufeliz | stoned, ok |
| 19:47.44 | nix | Tassium: xfs on (soft)raid5 is really nice:) |
| 19:47.47 | charzero | starfishy: call up your cable company, cancel your cable, and tell them its because you don't want to pay for terrible shows like american idol. |
| 19:47.49 | stoned | toufeliz, is a metapackage that installed aslautils alsatools and alsabase |
| 19:47.51 | toufeliz | stoned, i'm gonna try again |
| 19:47.52 | valdyn | nix: lvm has some nice features though, probably worth using |
| 19:47.53 | starfishy | hehehe |
| 19:47.56 | stoned | toufeliz, apt-get install alsa && alsaconf |
| 19:47.58 | starfishy | good idea |
| 19:48.07 | ryan` | Usiu, I am usualy on in the afternoons US pacific time |
| 19:48.20 | Usiu | ryan`, 2.4 doesnt even boot |
| 19:48.21 | charzero | starfishy: then take the money you saved and go see some live shows in a theatre. |
| 19:48.23 | Tassium | nix: I have no experience with xfs, so since I was starting fresh with LVM as well I figured go with a filesystem I know. |
| 19:48.26 | nix | valdyn, well, cant be bothered at the moment :) i'll cry over it in a year when ineed more space |
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| 19:48.37 | starfishy | well, i could up my netflix subscription |
| 19:48.43 | toufeliz | thanks |
| 19:48.43 | toufeliz | i'm gonna try changing packages |
| 19:48.43 | toufeliz | sorry |
| 19:48.43 | toufeliz | changing repositories |
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| 19:48.44 | starfishy | no commercials |
| 19:48.52 | Tassium | nix: Now I'm stuck trying to grow an ext3 filesystem. You know how hard it is to find (in english) a boot cd that supports LVM2 *and* resize2fs?? |
| 19:48.54 | stoned | heh, poor guy got hit by lag |
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| 19:49.03 | toufeliz | sorry for the flood |
| 19:49.05 | Usiu | ryan`, its really anoying that fresh debian installation doesnt boot :( |
| 19:49.06 | stoned | toufeliz, try not to use the ENTER key that much |
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| 19:49.13 | valdyn | Tassium: knoppix? |
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| 19:49.18 | nix | Tassium: make it yourself? :) oh and a bootable usb stick is way easier to build than a bootable cd |
| 19:49.23 | Usiu | ryan`, especialy that it doesnt creat somekind of device |
| 19:49.34 | Tassium | valdyn: I'm torrenting a knoppix cd as we speak ;) |
| 19:49.58 | stoned | what happens if you walk through a magnetic field at some store with a usb key in your pocket, you get screwed over big time because you loose your shit |
| 19:50.04 | stoned | its happened to me before |
| 19:50.05 | cippuz | stew: ok, i reboot now |
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| 19:50.09 | toufeliz | stoned, i realized that |
| 19:50.21 | valdyn | stoned: there's no shielded sticks? |
| 19:50.33 | Tassium | Always shield your stick. |
| 19:50.49 | nix | Tassium: basically build a kernel with USB built in, usb storage, but no other scsi/ata drivers, and you have your own private usb linux system in no time |
| 19:50.56 | stoned | valdyn, not the ones I had at the time, long time ago, 8mb thumbs given as samples to my dad, hehe, Zoloft USB keys |
| 19:50.57 | stoned | lol |
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| 19:51.16 | stoned | hes a psychiatrist, he has klonopin playing cards and Celexa hand bags |
| 19:51.17 | stoned | lol |
| 19:51.20 | Tassium | nix: How do you make it bootable? Does the process render the stick unusable by windows? |
| 19:52.05 | nix | Tassium: treat it as it were any other HD you plug in to a running system, and debootstrap debian + build a kernel on it. your bios must support booting from it though |
| 19:52.29 | stoned | <Tassium> Always shield your stick. <-- now that i'm high, that seems REALLY funny lol |
| 19:52.32 | nix | Tassium: and yes, no windows usage possible, unless you want a funky VFAT partition as linux root partition |
| 19:52.42 | stoned | brb |
| 19:53.17 | Tassium | nix: Eh, I've only got the 1 stick and it's too handy around the office. I've got piles of blank cd-r media, I'll just burn knoppix. Thanks though :) |
| 19:53.53 | simonrvn | ...that doesn't work (funky vfat rootfs) |
| 19:54.04 | nix | probably not, no :P |
| 19:54.20 | nix | last time i saw that was in 2.0.x kernels |
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| 19:55.48 | KillerBee | I pulled the plug on the laptop containing debian. now my bootup process looks very ugly with a lot of verbose. how do I return to the old one? |
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| 19:56.14 | KillerBee | *the laptop shut down without the shutdown sequence |
| 19:56.42 | stew | KillerBee: debian doesn't really offer an alternative. what did the bootup look like previously? |
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| 19:57.21 | simonrvn | you can set it to quiet though. see /etc/default/rcS |
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| 19:57.51 | KillerBee | does that debian do that evry time it is not properly shut down? |
| 19:57.51 | nix | ahh. copying over 400GB. smoke time |
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| 19:58.30 | valdyn | KillerBee: are you really using debian? debian _always_ looks 'ugly' when booting |
| 19:58.35 | ricky_clarkson | Chuck Norris can copy 400GB during a roundhouse kick. |
| 19:58.40 | krassy | I want to do dist-upgrade to etch non-free non-us . What exactly need to type in apt sources list |
| 19:58.47 | stew | KillerBee: did you recently install a new kernel? |
| 19:59.33 | valdyn | !non-us |
| 19:59.33 | dpkg | non-us is, like, where we put software that cannot be distributed from the USA. For woody, use "deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" in sources.list, and deb-src if you want sources. Changes in legislation mean that post-Woody, there is no non-us, so you don't need it for Sarge, Etch or Sid. Ask me about "crypto". for the few remaining packages, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01355.html |
| 19:59.33 | EmleyMoor | I have lost /etc/lsb-release from my testing box - how do I restore it? |
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| 19:59.34 | KillerBee | no |
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| 19:59.34 | KillerBee | i just rebooted it cold |
| 19:59.34 | nix | ricky_clarkson: thats 90GB/s, roughly. nice. |
| 19:59.34 | saj | guys and gals, how do i run a cvs script? its cedega time demo installer and its in shellscript? |
| 19:59.35 | ricky_clarkson | KillerBee: What installer did you use? |
| 19:59.35 | simonrvn | 'ugly'. i find it informational |
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| 19:59.50 | KillerBee | no clue |
| 19:59.54 | valdyn | saj: what does it have to do with cvs? nothing? |
| 19:59.54 | KillerBee | the stable net inst cd |
| 19:59.59 | Tassium | saj: If it's shell script, make it executable using chmod and then ./scriptname |
| 20:00.12 | Soeki | simonrvn only if it wasnt that fast it would be really informational |
| 20:00.26 | KillerBee | this laptop will get lots of electric abuse since it will be a car system |
| 20:00.30 | simonrvn | ... |
| 20:00.33 | KillerBee | lotsa cold shutdowns |
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| 20:00.40 | ricky_clarkson | Soeki: When it isn't fast that's when you need to read it. ;) |
| 20:00.45 | ricky_clarkson | Soeki: I.e., when it stops. |
| 20:00.51 | mjk64_ | LILO (22.6.1) doesn't boot after fresh install of Debian 3.1rev0a. It seems to load the 2.6.8-i686 kernel from the LVM root ("Loading Linux........."), but after the next line ("BIOS data check successful"), it simply reboots the machine. :-( Any ideas? |
| 20:00.56 | simonrvn | i guess scrolllock never occured to you |
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| 20:01.11 | cippuz | stew: i've reboot, retyped "modprobe ipw2200", but i get the same error msg |
| 20:01.27 | Soeki | simonrvn nope im a newb :) |
| 20:01.50 | simonrvn | !rutebook |
| 20:01.51 | dpkg | from memory, rutebook is an excellent book to learn about GNU/Linux - apt-get install rutebook |
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| 20:02.27 | simonrvn | !rutebook is also you'll need to add 'non-free' to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:02.28 | dpkg | simonrvn: okay |
| 20:02.29 | charzero | cippuz: I am using ipw2200 on Etch for an Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG. The kernel drivers did not work for me, i had to get the latest drivers from ipw2200.sf.net. |
| 20:02.37 | valdyn | KillerBee: cold shutdowns _will_ break your system |
| 20:02.44 | valdyn | KillerBee: so why plan its usage like that? |
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| 20:02.50 | simonrvn | !rutebook is also ask me about non-free |
| 20:02.50 | dpkg | simonrvn: okay |
| 20:02.55 | charzero | cippuz: give that a shot before you waste 5 hours like i did. |
| 20:03.17 | KillerBee | thats the system fate :p |
| 20:03.37 | jair | guys debian use init.d by default to start and stop commands and unix use inet.d? |
| 20:03.40 | KillerBee | well before this cold shutdown it used to show all the ok ok ok when services got started |
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| 20:03.54 | Soeki | if its a laptop why doest have to be shot down cold |
| 20:03.54 | KillerBee | not thats gone |
| 20:03.54 | Soeki | it has a batter isnt it? |
| 20:03.54 | simonrvn | jair: eh? |
| 20:03.57 | valdyn | KillerBee: i'd doubt that, a readonly live system on a cd or usb stick would be much better suited |
| 20:03.57 | KillerBee | battery is dead |
| 20:04.05 | cippuz | i'm trying to install my wifi card on my notebook |
| 20:04.14 | simonrvn | jair: do you know what inetd is? |
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| 20:04.16 | charzero | jair: init.d is to start and stop programs. inetd is to start servers as needed when you get connections. |
| 20:04.18 | cippuz | the card is ipw2200 |
| 20:04.19 | simonrvn | jair: man inetd |
| 20:04.29 | charzero | cippuz: what notebook? |
| 20:04.31 | valdyn | cippuz: which error are you getting? |
| 20:04.48 | simonrvn | jair: next time, think about you say. inform yourself. man, apropos, info are very useful to find things |
| 20:04.54 | cippuz | acer tm292 |
| 20:05.00 | cippuz | cpu centrino |
| 20:05.13 | Soeki | KillerBee your plan its ment to be wrong from the starts |
| 20:05.17 | charzero | cippuz: what does lspci | grep Network controller say? |
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| 20:05.31 | cippuz | when i type "modprobe ipw2200" i get" FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)" |
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| 20:05.38 | Soeki | your system will break into pieces if you shut it down cold every time |
| 20:05.53 | stew | cippuz: try running "depmod -a" |
| 20:05.55 | charzero | cippuz: what does lspci | grep -e "Network controller" say? |
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| 20:06.12 | cippuz | i don't have lspci |
| 20:06.31 | stew | you don't need it |
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| 20:06.45 | cippuz | stew: done |
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| 20:06.56 | cippuz | stew: now? |
| 20:06.58 | stew | cippuz: try the modprobe again |
| 20:07.15 | cippuz | nothing |
| 20:07.17 | jplibre | setting up a final procmail rule in my .procmailrc that should first check to see if a mail has a TO_ listed in a file, and if so sends it to the default inbox - otherwise places all other mail in another mailbox |
| 20:07.18 | cippuz | same error |
| 20:07.36 | stew | cippuz: check dmesg |
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| 20:07.39 | valdyn | cippuz: the ERROR tells you to 'see dmesg', did you do that already? |
| 20:07.41 | saj | tassium: done that..worked. thnx buddy :D |
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| 20:07.59 | jplibre | For some reason I can't get this to work and am looking for an example that should work - it's pretty simple compared to some other procmail stuff I've done but I can't get the matching to work right |
| 20:07.59 | cippuz | sure |
| 20:08.01 | valdyn | cippuz: some kind of firmware loading error, probably |
| 20:08.13 | valdyn | cippuz: what is in dmesg? |
| 20:08.28 | charzero | valdyn: the ipw2200 driver in the kernel does not work for some new cards. |
| 20:08.47 | cippuz | i've some lines like that "ipw2200: Unknown symbol free_ieee80211 |
| 20:08.47 | cippuz | ipw2200: disagrees about version of symbol alloc_ieee80211" |
| 20:08.54 | valdyn | charzero: probably, but his error is explicit |
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| 20:09.06 | valdyn | charzero: and its got nothing to do with hardware |
| 20:09.25 | simonrvn | that looks like a build time error (i.e., got buggered up at build) |
| 20:09.26 | valdyn | cippuz: what did you do? did you use module-assistant to install ipw2200? |
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| 20:10.00 | stew | cippuz: what version of linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 do you have installed? |
| 20:10.01 | cippuz | i tried with m-a, but by source too |
| 20:10.15 | valdyn | cippuz: you need to remove that package you installed with m-a |
| 20:10.15 | cippuz | stew: i don't know... |
| 20:10.22 | work-rockstar | Man, I have managed to _completely_ bork my egroupware installation... |
| 20:10.25 | cippuz | how can i do? |
| 20:10.30 | valdyn | cippuz: dpkg -l | grep ipw2200 |
| 20:10.30 | stew | cippuz: what version does "dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.15-1-686" report? |
| 20:10.31 | cippuz | to remove that? |
| 20:10.34 | valdyn | cippuz: and paste the output |
| 20:11.16 | stew | cippuz: but, of course, don't paste here |
| 20:11.23 | valdyn | cippuz: no, that command is for my information |
| 20:11.26 | jplibre | work-rockstar: what happened? beer? |
| 20:11.27 | cippuz | valdyn: "ii ipw2200-modules-2.6.15-1-686 1.0.8-3+2.6.15-8 ipw2200 modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15-1-6" |
| 20:11.42 | cippuz | valdyn: "ii ipw2200-source 1.0.8-3 Source for the ipw2200 driver" |
| 20:11.47 | cippuz | ehm...too late |
| 20:11.55 | cippuz | wher can i post next time? |
| 20:11.55 | valdyn | !find ipw2200.ko etch |
| 20:12.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ipw2200.ko' (3 of 5): (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-k7/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-486/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.15-1-486. |
| 20:12.15 | stew | valdyn: he compiled it even though its already in the kernel and now the compiled version isn't working |
| 20:12.22 | valdyn | stew: exactly |
| 20:12.27 | stew | cippuz: what version does "dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.15-1-686" report? |
| 20:12.43 | valdyn | cippuz: run 'dpkg --purge ipw2200-modules-2.6.15-1-686' |
| 20:12.50 | stew | valdyn: i tried to have him --reinstall the linux-image hoping he'd get the originals but it seems like maybe it didnt' work |
| 20:12.55 | cippuz | stew: 2.6.16-8 |
| 20:13.12 | stew | 2.6.15-8, right? |
| 20:13.17 | valdyn | stew: i dont think he used --force-overwrite to get ipw2200-modules installed |
| 20:13.26 | stew | right |
| 20:13.34 | EvilDin | am i make USE="-doc symlink" emerge gentoo-sources, but then i get !!! Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest. |
| 20:13.57 | stew | cippuz: do as valdyn suggested, then "apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uanme -r)" again |
| 20:14.01 | valdyn | stew: so its probably placed elsewhere or it really is the ieee80211 stack messing up, both of which he needs to remove if they are external |
| 20:14.13 | cippuz | sorry |
| 20:14.13 | cippuz | 2.6.15-8 |
| 20:14.24 | stew | valdyn: agreed |
| 20:14.32 | TolstoyInLove | any one can help me about tasksel and aptitude |
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| 20:15.06 | valdyn | cippuz: dpkg -l | grep ieee80211 |
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| 20:15.39 | jair | ok simonrvn thank you |
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| 20:16.47 | cippuz | valdyn "ii ieee80211-modules-2.6.15-1-686 1.1.6-4+2.6.15-8 ieee80211 network stack modules for Linux (k" |
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| 20:16.58 | cippuz | valdyn "ii ieee80211-source 1.1.6-4 Source for the 802.11 (wireless) network sta" |
| 20:17.02 | wsjunior | hello guys! after installing gnome here i get odd messages at console and cant use it because the message stay forever and on and I cant type anything.. but I cant use gnome normally. The message that i get is -> http://pastebin.com/754192 |
| 20:17.06 | valdyn | cippuz: 'dpkg --purge ieee80211-modules-2.6.15-1-686' |
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| 20:17.26 | softwork | kde for debian amd64? |
| 20:17.41 | softwork | compile? |
| 20:17.43 | softwork | :/ |
| 20:17.48 | EmleyMoor | What do I need to do to recover /etc/lsb-release on a testing box? |
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| 20:18.35 | valdyn | cippuz: let me know when done |
| 20:18.50 | TolstoyInLov1 | any one can help me about tasksel & aptitude |
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| 20:19.01 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm... |
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| 20:19.13 | stew | TolstoyInLov1: if you have a question, just ask it |
| 20:19.26 | cippuz | valdyn: done and reinstalled kernel-image |
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| 20:19.41 | valdyn | cippuz: ok, now run 'modprobe ipw2200' |
| 20:19.51 | mbishop | Can someone tell me why xorg wants to use a large virtual screen now? I didn't change the config from before, and it worked fine, but now it makes a virtual screen |
| 20:19.53 | valdyn | cippuz: maybe you have to run 'depmod -a' before that |
| 20:19.55 | TolstoyInLov1 | im not have complete listin my tasksel and aptitude list |
| 20:20.22 | cippuz | nothing |
| 20:20.26 | cippuz | the same error |
| 20:20.31 | TolstoyInLov1 | stew : i adde all cd |
| 20:20.35 | cippuz | "FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg" |
| 20:20.45 | valdyn | cippuz: did you run 'depmod -a' ? |
| 20:21.10 | cippuz | valdyn:yes |
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| 20:21.51 | valdyn | cippuz: lsmod | grep ieee |
| 20:22.07 | j4vi | cippuz: the compilation it's ok? |
| 20:22.08 | stew | TolstoyInLov1: what makes you say it is not complete? |
| 20:22.17 | cippuz | ieee80211 44616 0 |
| 20:22.25 | cippuz | ieee80211_crypt 5632 1 ieee80211 |
| 20:22.30 | cippuz | ieee1394 88152 2 eth1394,ohci1394 |
| 20:22.41 | valdyn | cippuz: run 'modprobe -r ieee80211' |
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| 20:23.07 | mbishop | bebop:/home/martin# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep Virtual |
| 20:23.07 | mbishop | (--) RADEON(0): Virtual size is 1440x1024 (pitch 1472) |
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| 20:23.18 | mbishop | why is it doing that? I don't define a virtual screen for it |
| 20:23.21 | mbishop | and it never used to have one |
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| 20:23.31 | cippuz | valdyn: done |
| 20:23.31 | cippuz | j4vi: i think yes |
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| 20:23.51 | valdyn | cippuz: run: modprobe -r ieee80211_crypt |
| 20:23.54 | j4vi | refered ipw2200: modconf and select the driver to install in the kernel, previosly copy the *.ko to /lib/modules... |
| 20:24.20 | cippuz | valdyn: done |
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| 20:24.31 | valdyn | cippuz: depmod -a; modprobe ipw2200 |
| 20:25.09 | cippuz | valdyn: now no-error ;) |
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| 20:25.15 | valdyn | cippuz: check dmesg |
| 20:25.16 | j4vi | final solution not good: ndiswrapper |
| 20:26.04 | cippuz | valdyn: pw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, git-1.0.8 |
| 20:26.07 | Tom_Beers | I'm getting this error from many programs: "relocation error: /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_intern_static_string" how might I fix it? |
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| 20:26.13 | valdyn | !win cippuz |
| 20:26.13 | dpkg | Congratulations, cippuz! You have won a one way ticket to Nova Scotia! |
| 20:26.14 | cippuz | valdyn: ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2005 Intel Corporation |
| 20:26.22 | stew | !beer valdyn |
| 20:26.35 | stew | cippuz: it should show up now when you run "iwconfig" |
| 20:26.48 | cippuz | valdyn:"ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection" |
| 20:26.48 | cippuz | yeah!!;) |
| 20:27.03 | Alam_Debian | what is the C channel name? ##c ? |
| 20:27.04 | cippuz | when you come in italy, i'll offer you pizza and beer |
| 20:27.17 | Soeki | #c#? |
| 20:27.34 | beardy | Soeki: An entirely different lagnuage. |
| 20:27.38 | valdyn | Soeki: #c ? |
| 20:27.40 | Soeki | indeed |
| 20:27.47 | beardy | Alam_Debian: /msg dpkg chanserv help search |
| 20:27.48 | Soeki | (bad joke) |
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| 20:28.14 | cippuz | valdyn: a last thing |
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| 20:28.29 | beardy | Alam_Debian: heh, /msg chanserv help search, that is.. |
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| 20:28.40 | valdyn | cippuz: if you reboot now and ipw2200 is loaded automatically, then it was already working before you tried to get it working |
| 20:28.44 | beardy | It's in the fingercache.. |
| 20:28.46 | Soeki | ohh crap i forgot to remove change the priority from backports.org |
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| 20:28.56 | cippuz | valdyn: now i have to put ipw2200 in modprobe.conf? or every time i have to do this procuedure? |
| 20:29.00 | Soeki | now i really need to make a clean install |
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| 20:29.45 | valdyn | cippuz: you shouldnt have to, if one of udev,discover,discover1 are installed, you put it into /etc/modules if its not loaded automaticaly, you never ever touch modprobe.conf |
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| 20:30.55 | cippuz | what i put in modules? only the string "ipw2200"? |
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| 20:31.03 | nix | cippuz: if need be you can create a file in /etc/modutils/ which will be included in modules.conf |
| 20:31.04 | valdyn | cippuz: correct |
| 20:31.19 | valdyn | nix: that is for a different purpose |
| 20:31.23 | cippuz | or ieee80211 too? |
| 20:31.31 | valdyn | cippuz: only ipw2200 |
| 20:31.51 | nix | valdyn: does udev & friends make that kind of obsolete then? |
| 20:31.59 | travisutk | I'm trying to upgrade from stable to testing. Where do I find the proper sources.list entries? |
| 20:32.08 | valdyn | nix: make what obsolete? |
| 20:32.46 | nix | valdyn: the use of aliases for raw devices to module names? |
| 20:32.55 | cheal | !tell travisutk about sarge->etch |
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| 20:33.23 | cheal | travisutk: there are many possible sources.list entries for testing |
| 20:33.24 | valdyn | nix: oh, that, no |
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| 20:33.40 | cippuz | nix: i've already created modules.conf in /etc to put in some commands to activate the wireless switch of my note...do you know acerhk |
| 20:33.59 | valdyn | nix: you should touch modules.conf =/ |
| 20:34.12 | valdyn | cippuz: you should not touch modules.conf on debian systems=/ |
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| 20:34.23 | nix | thats my point; anything that needs to be included in there should go into a new file in /etc/modutils/ |
| 20:34.28 | paulus | hello, how can i see if a usb port is used.. i have an ups that send's data to an ups port.. how do i know to which port |
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| 20:34.50 | Cruise | can someone help me with a quick problem, for some reason i cant compile anything now and im not sure why |
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| 20:35.00 | Cruise | configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 20:35.14 | valdyn | cippuz: if you want to load this module via an alias, your create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/, /etc/modules will 'just' load that module |
| 20:35.18 | stew | !b-e Cruise |
| 20:35.18 | dpkg | Cruise: Sounds like you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 20:35.23 | cippuz | valdyn: i didn't know that, but i had to install acerhk and, after many try, that was the only way.. |
| 20:35.25 | Cruise | ty |
| 20:35.48 | cippuz | but i have no problem now |
| 20:36.13 | cippuz | i reboot, let see what happens |
| 20:36.16 | Soeki | !sarge-etch |
| 20:36.18 | Cruise | same error |
| 20:36.22 | cippuz | thanx to all |
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| 20:36.27 | valdyn | nix: now i got your point, udev should make having a suitable alias redundant, that is all |
| 20:36.29 | Soeki | !sarge->etch |
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| 20:36.36 | Cruise | checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp |
| 20:36.36 | Cruise | configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
| 20:36.52 | stew | Soeki: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 20:36.54 | nix | valdyn: hm, now im confused about the difference between /etc/modutils/ and /etc/modprobe.d/ :) |
| 20:37.02 | Soeki | thanks |
| 20:37.02 | stew | short addressing for factoids with a > is broken |
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| 20:37.16 | Maulkin | hmm? |
| 20:37.31 | travisutk | cheal: Thanks. |
| 20:37.35 | valdyn | nix: difference is that /etc/modutils is for the 'modutils', those are for 2.4 kernels, the module-init-tools are for 2.6 kernels and use /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 20:37.38 | Maulkin | stew: I've not had any bugs about it. |
| 20:37.46 | Soeki | doest etch uses X.org? |
| 20:37.49 | Maulkin | stew: If it's broken, submit bugs! :) |
| 20:37.50 | Soeki | instad o xf86? |
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| 20:37.56 | Maulkin | Soeki: Yes |
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| 20:38.06 | stew | Maulkin: "!sarge->etch" doesn't work but /msg dpkg sarge->etch does ; i've talked to don about it |
| 20:38.09 | nix | valdyn, thats what i thought. mental noted ;) |
| 20:38.10 | valdyn | nix: its the same commands ( insmod,modprobe etc), but they're not the same programs |
| 20:38.36 | stew | dondelelcaro: i was able to test my fix to the above and it works. i'll get you a patch |
| 20:38.56 | Maulkin | stew: Please also send it to the bts. |
| 20:38.57 | dondelelcaro | stew: cool; I'm actually doing some work on that, so feel free to send it to me |
| 20:39.00 | Soeki | whats OFTC? |
| 20:39.04 | dondelelcaro | !oftc |
| 20:39.05 | dpkg | [oftc] the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net |
| 20:39.07 | Maulkin | dondelelcaro: And you! Send all your fixes over :) |
| 20:39.15 | dondelelcaro | Maulkin: yeah, I'm actually working on getting them upstream |
| 20:39.27 | Maulkin | \o/ |
| 20:39.33 | mustard | I'm trying to apt-get dist-upgrade my unstable system, but it falls over at x11-common with the error: "trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package ghostview" - any ideas how I can fix it? |
| 20:39.39 | dondelelcaro | Maulkin: TimRiker just switched the repository from cvs to svn, so I should be more willing to commit shortly |
| 20:39.47 | HuK0B | hello My problem is with syn flood I think I have apache and somebody atack me and my apache stop when I start tcp dump I see may be 100 connections per second to port 80 how I can fix this some way to limit can I make something like 3 connections from 1 ip for 1 second or something? |
| 20:39.58 | Soeki | oh. moving out from freenode, they will be closing this channel on june 4th? |
| 20:40.08 | Maulkin | dondelelcaro: ooh, brill |
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| 20:40.28 | phogg | HuK0B: you could do it with iptables and -m recent. Probably there's a way in apache, too, but I don't know apache |
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| 20:41.00 | Tassium | Keep in mind that whatever measures you take on your server will only help a small bit - by the time the packets make it to that machine, they've already saturated your link anyway. If you can, put in filtering rules upstream |
| 20:41.50 | cheal | Soeki: no, the channel will juste not be the "official" #debian anymore. probably ##debian |
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| 20:43.04 | dondelelcaro | the channel actually won't change, as far as I'm concerned; where irc.d.o points will, though. |
| 20:43.11 | morten | can someone help me figure out how to get trn connecting to my newsserver of choice? |
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| 20:43.46 | blondie | if I connect to vpn using "pon" on linux, how can I make it autoreconnect if the connection dies? |
| 20:44.14 | dondelelcaro | morten: you set NNTP or some similar env variable |
| 20:44.23 | valdyn | blondie: uncomment #persist in /etc/ppp/options |
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| 20:45.30 | morten | dondelelcaro: ah. i see. is there any way to make it connect to several newsservers? |
| 20:45.51 | dondelelcaro | morten: not as far as I know |
| 20:46.07 | dondelelcaro | morten: if you want to do that, you may want to use GNUS instead |
| 20:46.15 | morten | dondelelcaro: GNUS? |
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| 20:47.04 | y4n1k | hey guys, my gnome Applications menu is acting up. I'm using etch. When I click on it, it appears for a mere second, and then just fades into oblivion... Any ideas? |
| 20:47.35 | abrotman | feature?! |
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| 20:47.45 | abrotman | does it fade .. or just go poof? |
| 20:47.50 | y4n1k | poof |
| 20:47.58 | abrotman | you're not disconnecting it are you? |
| 20:48.12 | y4n1k | nope |
| 20:48.29 | y4n1k | the other 2 menus are working fine |
| 20:48.36 | morten | dondelelcaro: does NN have an easier way of selecting newsservers than trn? |
| 20:48.41 | charzero | Do i need something special to be able to print pdfs? |
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| 20:48.54 | dondelelcaro | morten: dunno, it's been ages since I've bothered to read news |
| 20:49.04 | blondie | valdyn: merci |
| 20:49.12 | morten | :( |
| 20:50.17 | morten | hallelujah! i fucking figured it out! |
| 20:50.25 | morten | ./etc/news/server! |
| 20:51.13 | Tassium | morten: You can also override that |
| 20:51.23 | jair | hello everybody, I will be installing debian in a xserver |
| 20:51.41 | y4n1k | x86 xserver? |
| 20:51.48 | Tassium | morten: I think there's an environment variable (NNTPSERVER or something like that) |
| 20:51.49 | jair | but in some part of the installation I need to load some raid drivers |
| 20:51.52 | jair | y4n1k: yes |
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| 20:52.12 | jair | y4n1k: why? did you try and did not get success? |
| 20:52.17 | K|NgGh0sT | I lost sound, and I cannot seem to get it back again, any ideas? |
| 20:52.30 | jair | y4n1k: did you install debian on it before? |
| 20:52.38 | y4n1k | nope, but I'm interested to know how the installation will go |
| 20:53.01 | morten | Tassium: there is. but there's also /etc/news/server |
| 20:53.09 | morten | which is like a million times more convenient |
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| 20:53.17 | morten | if not more |
| 20:53.44 | Tassium | morten: Depends on your circumstances.. If it's just your box, sure. If you've got multiuser shiznit going on, overriding the default may be good. |
| 20:54.08 | jair | I know I have to create a couple of it is a way I can tell debian to let me load the drivers? |
| 20:54.11 | sid | ok, my rss feeds are getting out of hand with firefox...I used to just add rss feeds as bookmarks...but I have too many now. What is a good rss feed client to use in debian main? |
| 20:54.24 | morten | Tassium: how you mean? wouldn't changing the variable in /etc/news/server do that just fine? |
| 20:54.28 | sid | (I use ion3...and I hate kde and gnome) |
| 20:54.45 | sid | !start a window manager war |
| 20:54.46 | dpkg | ratpoison sucks! |
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| 20:54.58 | keith80403 | Who maintains the www.debian.org website? I like how it is arranged. Are its pages generated from a database, from a set of perl scripts, or is it a collection of flat pages? |
| 20:55.20 | formorer | keith80403: its wml |
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| 20:56.10 | keith80403 | formorer, OK, I'll check that out, thanks. The more I investigate Debian, the more I like everything about it. |
| 20:56.19 | formorer | keith80403: and its maintained by the www team |
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| 20:56.25 | IB- | i'm getting an LVM error on a bootup with this error kernel: Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block 4901 |
| 20:56.26 | IB- | what can it be ? |
| 20:56.49 | formorer | keith80403: debian-www@lists.debian.org |
| 20:57.22 | keith80403 | formorer, Thanks for that info. I see from a web search that wml is from w3. |
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| 20:58.36 | charzero | I can print to another cups server with firefox and openoffice, and by piping to lp, but not with gvim, acroread, xpdf, or piping to lpr. |
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| 20:59.27 | PPP|SpOOnman | I want to install libgtk2.0-dev, and apt says it has to remove gnome-core and other gnome packaages, I upgraded recently, what's wrong? |
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| 20:59.46 | Mtraker | hi |
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| 21:00.13 | cippuz | tnx guys! |
| 21:00.43 | Mtraker | waht it's better? screem, bluefish or quanta |
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| 21:01.10 | cippuz | tnx to nix, valdyn, stew, and all who give me a hand to set my wifi card! |
| 21:01.14 | Mtraker | or... what's the diference? |
| 21:01.21 | ootput | do any of you know how i can switch capslock with control while at the console? |
| 21:01.27 | Phire | I'm having problems installing debian, I installed the base system of the dvd, but then I had to return the dvd drive. |
| 21:01.28 | cippuz | byez and see ya later |
| 21:01.48 | ootput | also, for those of you using xorg + sid, did the recent update mess with yur mouse detection? |
| 21:02.02 | Phire | so it boots up and i choose install form http, and it can't resolve any of the servers |
| 21:02.16 | Tassium | Phire: Got your network set up? |
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| 21:02.34 | Phire | yes |
| 21:02.37 | Phire | I can ping google |
| 21:02.39 | abrotman | Phire: and dns works ? |
| 21:02.50 | Phire | yes |
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| 21:03.07 | Tassium | Phire: Gimmie one of the servers that won't resolve for you |
| 21:03.17 | K|NgGh0sT | I lost sound, and I cannot seem to get it back again, any ideas? |
| 21:03.17 | ootput | ah, it must be evdev related |
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| 21:04.01 | Phire | ok, I'll just exit out of the shell |
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| 21:04.05 | ootput | K|NgGh0sT: here's an idea: explain your problem with a little more detail please |
| 21:04.17 | K|NgGh0sT | I rebooted and I cant access any sound |
| 21:04.25 | K|NgGh0sT | I dont know what else to tell you :) |
| 21:05.05 | Phire | ftp.nz.debian.org |
| 21:05.22 | war92 | I am running Debian Etch and there is a script that keeps removing files in /tmp upon bootup- anyone know off hand what that is? |
| 21:05.25 | ootput | does aptitude provide a log if it's most recent tasks? |
| 21:05.33 | Phire | it says connection to ftp.nz.debian.org (1.0.0.0) |
| 21:05.33 | ootput | *of |
| 21:05.52 | ootput | ah, var/log/aptitude |
| 21:05.53 | ft | ootput: /var/log/aptitude |
| 21:06.01 | Tassium | Phire: Hrm, resolves for me. ftp.citylink.co.nz. == 202.7.6.9 |
| 21:06.06 | ft | damn, too slow ;) |
| 21:06.20 | Phire | I can ping it when i'm in the shell |
| 21:06.42 | Tassium | Phire: You got 'nslookup' or 'dig' on that box? |
| 21:07.15 | Tassium | Phire: If you just did this install, it may just be easier to download the minimal boot components, boot, and reinstall via network |
| 21:07.41 | K|NgGh0sT | I just removed and reinstalled alsa, seemed to of worked |
| 21:07.52 | Phire | ok, can I do that without a cdrom drive?, I have slackware installed |
| 21:08.14 | Tassium | Phire: You could make boot disks |
| 21:08.17 | Tassium | Got a floppy drive? |
| 21:08.20 | Phire | no |
| 21:08.28 | Tassium | You could make a bootable USB key |
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| 21:08.33 | eddiecheng | anybody dont this before http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html ? |
| 21:08.40 | eddiecheng | done |
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| 21:09.21 | Phire | ok I've got a cdrom drive. |
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| 21:11.23 | anywavedave | Anyone know how to update the list of shared libraries in Debian Sarge? |
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| 21:11.34 | pipeline | anywavedave: run ldconfig as root |
| 21:11.41 | HuK0B | How can I limit connections per ip for each port I mean how I can limit for example one ip to make 5 connections to port 80 per second |
| 21:11.42 | anywavedave | K |
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| 21:11.58 | eddiecheng | anybody done this http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup ? |
| 21:12.27 | dli | eddiecheng, you want to setup your nick ? |
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| 21:12.52 | abrotman | eddiecheng: tons of us |
| 21:13.10 | abrotman | HuK0B: ask #iptables .. or see netfilter.org |
| 21:13.17 | abrotman | HuK0B: or google "Rate limit iptables" |
| 21:13.33 | eddiecheng | abrotman did u follow the steps exactly |
| 21:13.49 | anywavedave | Well that didn't seem to do it, any reason a config script would not find a library when it's there? Do I need to manually add the library somewhere? |
| 21:13.50 | Phire | Tassium: I don't have nslookup or dig |
| 21:13.53 | eddiecheng | i screwed my system once with this |
| 21:13.59 | tonsofpcs | eddiecheng - most of us. |
| 21:14.08 | eddiecheng | so it depends on luck too ? |
| 21:14.11 | tonsofpcs | I didn't follow those steps, I've been on IRC way to long to need to read |
| 21:14.28 | abrotman | eddiecheng: /msg nickserv help |
| 21:14.28 | eddiecheng | you guys are good |
| 21:14.30 | abrotman | !tell eddiecheng about u |
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| 21:15.25 | eddiecheng | i am sorry abrotman |
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| 21:15.33 | jazon | hi there. anyone care to take a stab at helping diagnose a weird usb issue? my device won't load its configuration |
| 21:15.52 | anywavedave | pipeline, Well that didn't seem to do it, any reason a config script would not find a library when it's there? Do I need to manually add the library somewhere? |
| 21:16.18 | Soeki | ok this is so uncool |
| 21:16.34 | Soeki | just finished isntalling gnome with backported xorg on sarge |
| 21:16.42 | Soeki | it runs till the login screen |
| 21:16.52 | valdyn | anywavedave: you miss the -dev package |
| 21:16.55 | Soeki | but it doesnt accept any password or username. |
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| 21:17.20 | Soeki | i try to login with the users/password on a regular tty |
| 21:17.31 | Soeki | and they work including root |
| 21:17.40 | anywavedave | pipeline: Ooooh kaaaay. Should've figured. I may be back... Thanks! |
| 21:17.47 | Tassium | Soeki: Anything in the log files? |
| 21:18.46 | Soeki | i think is a keyboard related problem |
| 21:18.59 | valdyn | Soeki: a keymap related problem |
| 21:18.59 | Soeki | cuz it doesnt show letters when i put the username |
| 21:19.17 | Soeki | thanks. yeah keymap. |
| 21:19.26 | valdyn | Soeki: change your password to ascii characters that are on the same keys on most or all keybaords |
| 21:19.33 | sid | !keymap |
| 21:19.33 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
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| 21:19.59 | Soeki | they are ascii |
| 21:20.14 | Soeki | mostly regular letters |
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| 21:20.27 | valdyn | Soeki: y and z may be exchanged |
| 21:20.32 | tonsofpcs | eddiecheng - don't pm me |
| 21:20.38 | abrotman | eddiecheng: DO NOT msg people |
| 21:20.45 | abrotman | eddiecheng: steps for what? |
| 21:20.51 | valdyn | Soeki: and various other keys, i dont even know your console keymap |
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| 21:21.29 | eddiecheng | okay |
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| 21:21.55 | p4olo | http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20050414_ubuntu_meets_veronica_mars.phtml |
| 21:22.08 | valdyn | Soeki: uh it doesnt show letters at all? |
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| 21:22.47 | sid | !tell eddiecheng about debootstrap |
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| 21:23.36 | Soeki | great i reboot and now it goes back and forth from "Gnome background" to "console login prompt" ultimately (after 6 attempts) prompts the "i cannot run x etc etc" but i can use the keyboard to pick any option |
| 21:23.37 | Usiu | Hi |
| 21:23.55 | Usiu | I am looking for Xen stable backports for AMD64 |
| 21:23.57 | Usiu | any help? |
| 21:24.00 | abrotman | !backports |
| 21:24.00 | dpkg | backports is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 21:25.04 | DA_ | !udev |
| 21:25.05 | dpkg | udev is probably at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 in testing and unstable |
| 21:25.18 | DA_ | actually, udev is telling me it wants >= 2.6.15 in unstable |
| 21:25.36 | Shadowcat | DA_: why are you using unstable? |
| 21:25.46 | DA_ | Shadowcat: cuz im insane? |
| 21:25.48 | DA_ | heh |
| 21:26.03 | DA_ | i have a death wish for my linux box |
| 21:26.13 | abrotman | throw paper clips at the open case |
| 21:26.28 | DA_ | abrotman: haha... |
| 21:26.35 | Shadowcat | if you're using unstable you shouldn't be asking about these things |
| 21:26.40 | DA_ | that should to it too |
| 21:26.46 | DA_ | im not asking |
| 21:26.51 | DA_ | im just saying its incorrect |
| 21:26.58 | abrotman | only 1500 ? |
| 21:26.59 | Shadowcat | no it's entirely correct |
| 21:27.14 | Shadowcat | abrotman: 120mm fan spinning at 1500rpm moves a lot of air |
| 21:27.24 | abrotman | Shadowcat: yeah .. but it's a small fan |
| 21:27.29 | abrotman | weak motor |
| 21:27.44 | dondelelcaro | DA_: the version of udev that is in unstable requires >= 2.6.15; it'll install without it, it just won't start. |
| 21:27.50 | Shadowcat | it can handle 2500rpm, just not running it at full speed |
| 21:28.03 | Shadowcat | no need to do so either |
| 21:28.13 | DA_ | dondelelcaro: ahh i see, yes it installed just fine - but im on a 2.6.8 kernel |
| 21:28.25 | dondelelcaro | DA_: yes, which is why you need to upgrade to 2.6.16 or so. |
| 21:28.41 | Shadowcat | 2.6 without udev is painful |
| 21:28.44 | DA_ | yep |
| 21:28.49 | DA_ | which is exactly what im going to do |
| 21:28.50 | DA_ | but |
| 21:28.50 | dondelelcaro | Shadowcat: not really... |
| 21:28.55 | DA_ | the partition /boot resides on |
| 21:28.56 | DA_ | is too small |
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| 21:29.02 | Shadowcat | !tell DA_ about enter |
| 21:29.12 | DA_ | Shadowcat: my apologies, ill stop |
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| 21:29.39 | dondelelcaro | DA_: ok... so make it bigger or delete useless kernels or moan and groan about it? |
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| 21:30.22 | Shadowcat | I don't see how you have ask about stuff like that in here |
| 21:30.41 | Shadowcat | then again I'm a bit extreme with space allocation, I usually put down 1gb for /boot |
| 21:30.54 | inflames989 | hey, i suck with linux and trying out knoppix, any good sites for fast learning? |
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| 21:31.08 | cureless | infinity1: some knoppix site |
| 21:31.10 | DA_ | well afaik i havent asked a question yet |
| 21:31.11 | Shadowcat | the only thing you'll learn with knoppix is how to use KDE |
| 21:31.23 | cureless | infinity1: whoops autocomplete. |
| 21:31.54 | Usiu | How to add backports.org to apt? |
| 21:31.56 | inflames989 | well, im actually trying to figure out how to setup an internet connection ;-) |
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| 21:32.03 | Usiu | to source.list ? |
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| 21:33.09 | ktwilight | i'm trying to get rssowl installed on etch. but eclipse-platform is from sid, i'm guessing i need to know how to pin in /etc/apt/preferences to get that package? |
| 21:33.26 | cureless | inflames989: are you using debian or knoppix? |
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| 21:33.38 | d0uglas | trying to get mod_rewrite going in apache 1 .. it looks fired up on dpkg-reconfigure, checked off, it's in modules.conf and the .so file is where it belongs, but my gallery program says it ain't working |
| 21:33.58 | inflames989 | right now i have knoppix std and kanotix |
| 21:34.15 | inflames989 | kanotix is more gui, but im hung on working w/ s-t-d |
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| 21:34.30 | CHodapp | inflames989 has a knoppix STD.... |
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| 21:34.54 | rvalles | http://www.digg.com/links/The_Pirate_Bay_raid_issue:_English_coverage_blog |
| 21:35.13 | jplibre | hmmmmmm - if dmidecode says "XX structures occupying XXX bytes", how can I get at the DMI information? |
| 21:35.26 | jplibre | usually it gives me all kinds of good info to work with |
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| 21:35.50 | sid | Is it possible to remotely turn one distribution of linux into another. |
| 21:36.04 | jplibre | sid: short answer: No |
| 21:36.09 | sid | I know you can go from sarge to etch, or sarge to dapper, or fedora to rhel, or rhel to centos, or fedora to centos |
| 21:36.11 | CHodapp | Yes. Is it worth it to try? Probably not. |
| 21:36.14 | sid | But can you do like gentoo to debian |
| 21:36.15 | sid | lol |
| 21:36.17 | cureless | sid: long answer yes, but you won't like the result. |
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| 21:36.37 | jplibre | gentoo to debian? Long road. |
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| 21:36.40 | CHodapp | Is it possible to disassemble your house and build a tank? Sorta.... |
| 21:36.40 | HellDragon | hi |
| 21:36.49 | sid | I found this windows linux.exe installer today...that installed linux while debian was running...pretty hilarious. |
| 21:36.50 | jplibre | from one debian variant to another? Shorter path |
| 21:37.06 | sid | http://sourceforge.net/projects/instlux/ |
| 21:37.16 | rvalles | this idiots @ antipyratbyran & mpaa |
| 21:37.34 | rvalles | got free press in tons thanks to the raids |
| 21:37.54 | sid | yea, when TPB comes back online...they'll have a shitload more users then they did... |
| 21:37.59 | sid | Because of all the free press. |
| 21:38.01 | sid | Kind of ironic. |
| 21:38.10 | CHodapp | Noise and dispersion are two large weapons. |
| 21:38.39 | sid | MPAA is all... "We took down the largest site in history"...lol now they come back online..and people flock to them. |
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| 21:39.12 | CHodapp | When you pirate movies...you're downloading COMMUNISM! |
| 21:39.29 | HellDragon | bash.org quote spotted.. |
| 21:39.42 | meriad | CHodapp- maybe not |
| 21:39.53 | CHodapp | It's not a bash.org quote, it's a bad rip-off of a "friendly ad" from another site |
| 21:39.59 | CHodapp | only then it was pirating MP3s, not movies |
| 21:40.02 | meriad | CHodapp- silence is also a large weapon |
| 21:40.09 | sid | I found this windows linux.exe installer today...that installed linux while windows was running...pretty hilarious.* |
| 21:40.11 | sid | http://sourceforge.net/projects/instlux/ |
| 21:40.30 | CHodapp | thank you, sid... |
| 21:40.45 | meriad | hah |
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| 21:42.28 | Thumann | hi guys.. i'm trying to build a initrd image with dmraid support.. but it panics during boot.. and the system stops at this 'BusyBox' shell |
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| 21:42.46 | bonjour | helo |
| 21:42.50 | Thumann | it says.. PANIC: Circular Dependancy. Exiting |
| 21:42.53 | Stevie | 250 Stevie |
| 21:43.20 | sid | !greet bonjour |
| 21:43.20 | dpkg | Welcome, bonjour |
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| 21:44.05 | bonjour | thank you |
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| 21:44.52 | meriad | !greet shalom |
| 21:44.53 | dpkg | Nihao, shalom |
| 21:45.02 | meriad | wow |
| 21:45.06 | meriad | it knows hebrew too sweet |
| 21:45.12 | meriad | sorry |
| 21:45.12 | meriad | sorta |
| 21:45.13 | meriad | hehe |
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| 21:47.14 | Soeki | ok i fixed the keymap issue |
| 21:47.21 | Soeki | now its the core pointer not working |
| 21:47.29 | Soeki | lol it used to work when i installed it |
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| 21:48.14 | Soeki | its a 3 buttom ps2 mouse going trough a KBM switch (dont know if that could be a problem) |
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| 21:48.36 | dragan | in my etch base installation i am missing lspci. is that normal and how can i install it??? |
| 21:48.38 | stew | Soeki: try "modprobe mousedev" |
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| 21:49.23 | cheal | dragan: more or less. install pciutils |
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| 21:49.41 | Soeki | mice: ps2 mouse device common for all mice <-- what does this means? |
| 21:49.57 | beardy | Soeki: Shoudln't be a problem, but what your box thinks the mouse is, may differ, depending on your KVM switch, if it sends out the real mouse-signals, or some sort of emulation in between. |
| 21:50.26 | dragan | cheal: thank you! |
| 21:50.37 | stew | helo |
| 21:50.37 | Stevie | 250 Stevie |
| 21:50.40 | stew | man |
| 21:50.40 | Stevie | Which manual page do you want? |
| 21:50.40 | Soeki | beardy it used to work the first boot time now it doesnt. |
| 21:50.46 | stew | Stevie: who owns you? |
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| 21:51.12 | Soeki | stew mice: ps2 mouse device common for all mice <-- this is what i get after modprobe mousedev |
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| 21:51.37 | sid | man |
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| 21:51.51 | stew | Soeki: try starting x again. add "mousedev" to /etc/modules |
| 21:51.55 | Soeki | x complains "cannot open device: /dev/psaux" |
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| 21:52.10 | stew | Soeki: modprobe psmouse ; and add that to modules as well |
| 21:52.54 | b0xy | anyone speak german? |
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| 21:53.00 | b0xy | help me with a pronunciation? |
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| 21:53.19 | sid | b0xy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de hier auf freenode oder auf irc.oftc.net |
| 21:53.21 | dondelelcaro | b0xy: try asking #debian.de |
| 21:53.42 | stoned | why is germany called .de |
| 21:53.46 | Soeki | whoaa,,, |
| 21:53.48 | b0xy | deutschland ;) |
| 21:53.49 | Soeki | finnally |
| 21:53.50 | sid | stoned: Because that's their country code. |
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| 21:53.54 | Soeki | thanks guyz |
| 21:54.01 | sid | http://germany.de |
| 21:54.03 | stoned | yes, but how do you get de from Germany |
| 21:54.06 | jair | hello guys, I am trying to install debian on a xseries server x86 processor just to do some testing, and I get a couple of floppy .img that I need to create for the serveraid. I would like to know if is possible for me to use the floppies with the drivers even for debian when they are for caldera linux? |
| 21:54.09 | b0xy | deutsch = german |
| 21:54.13 | stoned | hahaha |
| 21:54.14 | sid | stoned: deutschland |
| 21:54.15 | b0xy | deutschland = germany |
| 21:54.16 | Dwonis | stoned: Germans don't speak English? |
| 21:54.19 | stoned | thats a funny word |
| 21:54.25 | Soeki | took me 26 hours to get gnome running on sarge with an ATI card :( |
| 21:54.28 | stoned | ok so I get it now |
| 21:54.36 | b0xy | doy-tsh-lah-nt |
| 21:54.43 | stoned | ohhh |
| 21:54.49 | epictetus | soeki: you're lucky you don't use gentoo, it would have taken 3 weeks |
| 21:54.52 | Dwonis | b0xy: "nt" is a syllable? |
| 21:54.52 | stoned | I thought like dooshland |
| 21:54.54 | stoned | lol |
| 21:54.58 | stoned | my bad |
| 21:55.04 | b0xy | uhnt then :P |
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| 21:55.22 | b0xy | stoned: you can pronounce it in the english way |
| 21:55.27 | sid | stoned: Deutschland is "Germany" in the german language. |
| 21:55.30 | b0xy | eu makes "oy" in german |
| 21:55.31 | stoned | yes, I got it |
| 21:55.39 | b0xy | can't* |
| 21:55.40 | stoned | thats strange |
| 21:55.43 | epictetus | in Latin, latin is "romani" |
| 21:55.56 | stoned | linquistics are cool |
| 21:55.57 | epictetus | which makes me wonder, why do we call it latin and not roman |
| 21:56.05 | b0xy | I f'n love linguistics |
| 21:56.08 | stoned | well, because isn't roman roman? |
| 21:56.10 | b0xy | I'm an obsessive freak about languages |
| 21:56.12 | stoned | and latin isnot roman? |
| 21:56.15 | b0xy | but I only know english |
| 21:56.19 | b0xy | so I'm trying to acquire german :D |
| 21:56.25 | epictetus | latin is roman |
| 21:56.30 | b0xy | don't know anyone that speaks it though so I have to resort to IRC for help |
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| 21:56.33 | sid | stoned: Like to a hispanic person... .us wouldn't make sense(it probably would be for sake of example)..because they call United States... Estados Unidos |
| 21:56.39 | b0xy | I'm off to #debian.de now :P |
| 21:56.39 | sid | So to them .us should be .eu |
| 21:56.41 | sid | But .eu is Europe |
| 21:56.42 | sid | heh |
| 21:56.51 | stoned | spanish is awesome |
| 21:56.59 | epictetus | si, es el mejor |
| 21:57.15 | jair | stew: are you busy? |
| 21:57.15 | Dwonis | so why isn't .jp .ni instead? |
| 21:57.37 | Dwonis | nevermind... iso is just plain weird sometimes |
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| 21:57.45 | jair | valdyn: are you busy I need some sugestions |
| 21:57.45 | Shadowcat | why are we discussing iso country assignments in here? |
| 21:57.51 | stoned | I figure germany should be like .ge or .gr but .gr is greece and I dunno what .de is |
| 21:57.54 | stoned | er.. ge* |
| 21:57.56 | Shadowcat | more importantly, are we really that bored on a Friday evening? |
| 21:58.01 | Maulkin | yes |
| 21:58.10 | stoned | oh my god |
| 21:58.10 | Dwonis | .ge is Georgia |
| 21:58.13 | stoned | today is friday? |
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| 21:58.20 | Dwonis | stoned: or Saturday |
| 21:58.22 | stoned | holy shnickies |
| 21:58.22 | Maulkin | stoned: no, it's Thursday, don't worry |
| 21:58.25 | sid | Dwonis: Niigata is a district in Japan |
| 21:58.36 | stoned | oh crap its the 2nd already |
| 21:58.42 | jair | I am trying to install debian stable in a IBM server xseries |
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| 21:58.46 | stoned | I forgot to pay rent yesterday!~ |
| 21:58.52 | Dwonis | sid: I was thinking of Nipon or whatever the Japanese call Japan |
| 21:58.53 | stoned | shit! |
| 21:58.58 | Thumann | Any one down with initrd images? |
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| 21:59.05 | stoned | oh man I completely missed a day somehow this week |
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| 21:59.20 | Maulkin | jair: The installer can launch a shell, you could modprobe the module manually. |
| 21:59.33 | sid | Dwonis: Georgia is a country --> http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/europe/ge.htm |
| 21:59.36 | Dwonis | !tell Thumann -about ask |
| 21:59.36 | sid | And it's also a state. |
| 21:59.58 | jair | Maulkin: wait, nope |
| 22:00.04 | Thumann | !tell Dwonis -about being ignored every time |
| 22:00.17 | Thumann | :X |
| 22:00.29 | ic3man05 | I finally got my overclock stable at 190x11@1.725 (default is 133x16.5@1.65), unreal gained 15fps btw |
| 22:00.34 | Maulkin | jair: Damn :) |
| 22:00.39 | Dwonis | Thumann: perhaps, but asking "does anybody know anything about initrd" isn't gong to help |
| 22:00.40 | jair | Maulkin: I have to install a couple of drivers in order to the server recognize the scsi dirves. |
| 22:00.42 | stoned | Maulkin, I don't quite understand the use of the prefix 'pre'. Like precognition. cognition before cognition? or like prerecord? you record before you record? or preboard, you get on before you get on? hehehe, that makes no sense to me whatsoever, people use that prefix 'pre' with lots of words and they don't make sense, but its funny anyway |
| 22:00.46 | stoned | what do you think |
| 22:00.48 | stoned | hehe |
| 22:01.12 | Thumann | well... i'm trying to get dmraid support into a initrd image.. but it's not going so smoothly.. i get a PANIC during boot.. and end up in a EasyBox shell.. ash or something |
| 22:01.16 | sid | Thumann: If you want to speak Danish you can /join #debian.dk |
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| 22:01.24 | jair | Maulkin: are you with me, the IBM server comes with two raid controllers, one on board and another one adampted to it. |
| 22:01.42 | jair | Maulkin: it is using right now the embended on the moderboard |
| 22:01.48 | jair | motherboard sorry |
| 22:01.48 | Maulkin | stoned: pre == before |
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| 22:01.59 | Dwonis | Isn't dmraid supported by the sarge installer? |
| 22:01.59 | stoned | Maulkin, I know, I'm making fun of it :) |
| 22:02.07 | Thumann | Dwonis: nope |
| 22:02.13 | jair | Maulkin: have you ever installed debian in a server with controllers IBM? |
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| 22:02.37 | Maulkin | jair: Nope. Not with IBM ones |
| 22:02.44 | jair | Maulkin: the drivers for the raid are on the web site, but from all of them, I do not know which one to use. |
| 22:02.56 | AoA | is there any way to see some exported path , e.g. I exportet something with export PATH... |
| 22:03.04 | stoned | AoA, env |
| 22:03.11 | stoned | grep path |
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| 22:03.13 | stoned | maybe |
| 22:03.22 | cureless | AoA: echo $PATH |
| 22:03.25 | jair | Maulkin: ok so then yes I try the modprobe and it recognize one of the controllers but the drives are no attached to it, they are attached to the IBM one |
| 22:03.25 | stoned | or that |
| 22:03.27 | Thumann | i've finally gotten grub to boot of a raid0 software raid.. but i need the dmraid support in a initrd image |
| 22:03.37 | Dwonis | Thumann: You're probably being "ignored" because nobody here right now knows the answer. |
| 22:03.42 | Dwonis | Thumann: which mkinitrd are you using? |
| 22:03.50 | linuxddr | hi all |
| 22:03.53 | jair | and I have to load the drivers to the server I am not sure if before run the debian installer or after? |
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| 22:04.18 | Thumann | Dwonis: latest from sarge apt archive |
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| 22:04.53 | linuxddr | i have a problems im trying to play enemy teritory and when i start the game i get no sound but my alsa is working pretty well... Is there an solution ? |
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| 22:05.16 | xmega | hello all |
| 22:05.25 | Thumann | linuxddr: something else is prolly hogging your soundcard |
| 22:05.42 | linuxddr | theklone, ok 'cause i can listen music with xmms |
| 22:05.49 | sid | Thumann: Hvis du vil tale dansk og få hjælp til debian, skriv /join #linux.dk in your irc client |
| 22:05.56 | amphi | linuxddr: you could try the dmix alsa plugin |
| 22:05.59 | Thumann | sid: jeg er der allerede.. ^^ |
| 22:06.10 | linuxddr | theklone, i've heard about that enemy teritory use oss |
| 22:06.11 | Thumann | linuxddr: try closing all other programs.. |
| 22:06.15 | Dwonis | Thumann: hmm... I don't know if sarge supports dmraid out of the box, although you can apparently make some sort of raid work with yaird or initramfs-tools |
| 22:06.19 | linuxddr | theklone, already all closed |
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| 22:06.33 | jair | if i need to install debian using the netinst, and I am behing a firewall how can I tell the ftp or http server where I will get the files from the firewall details? |
| 22:06.35 | Dwonis | Thumann: you could try backports.org for a yaird package for sarge |
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| 22:06.37 | cureless | linuxddr: are you sure? |
| 22:06.39 | jair | I have the info and everyting |
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| 22:06.51 | linuxddr | yea when i try to start it.. |
| 22:06.51 | ic3man05 | lol, dpkg wasn't to helpful with fstab and samba can someone tell me how to mount a samba share on startup? |
| 22:06.53 | Thumann | Dwonis: sarge doesn't support dmraid out of the box.. that's why i needed to do a bootstrap install.. with a ubuntu cd.. |
| 22:07.15 | sid | jair: You mean a proxy? |
| 22:07.18 | Thumann | Dwonis: and i think it needs to be dmraid since it's intel software raid.. |
| 22:07.30 | Dwonis | Thumann: "intel software raid"? |
| 22:07.34 | linuxddr | but enemy teritory use oss sound but i don't know how to start it.. |
| 22:07.42 | Thumann | Dwonis: aye.. fake raid you know |
| 22:07.53 | Thumann | iswraid (2.4) dmraid in 2.6 |
| 22:08.13 | Dwonis | Thumann: ok... I've never really thought of software raid being vendor-specific |
| 22:08.37 | Dwonis | Thumann: you just have IDE/SATA drivers for the individual disks, and then you run Linux's software raid on top of that |
| 22:08.54 | Thumann | Dwonis: no no.. but with the dmraid you can use the 'fake raid' option.. you know.. your configure the stripe or mirror in the controller bios.. and then have the driver find it as one.. |
| 22:08.56 | Dwonis | Thumann: but yeah, there are different initrd packages that support different things |
| 22:08.57 | help | after upgrading my system by using synaptec package manager, i just cycle from black screen to login (black screen white letters) |
| 22:08.57 | linuxddr | Thumann, i tried "echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" but it says no directory founds.. i've found this on forums.. |
| 22:08.58 | jair | yes |
| 22:09.03 | jair | sid: yes |
| 22:09.17 | Dwonis | Thumann: heh. I didn't know that |
| 22:09.21 | sid | jair: yes, the net installer will ask you what your proxy information is. |
| 22:09.27 | jair | sid: I am behind a proxy but I know all the details and password to connect through it |
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| 22:09.37 | sid | !tell jair about d-i |
| 22:09.40 | jair | sid: are you sure |
| 22:09.45 | help | i have already reconfigured xserver and I know that it is correct... |
| 22:09.50 | cureless | ic3man05: try man smbmount |
| 22:10.00 | help | i think i am missing some packages |
| 22:10.00 | sid | jair: If you chose sarge(stable) or etch(testing) they both have proxy support and will automatically prompt you for the information. |
| 22:10.04 | Dwonis | help: how do you "know that it is correct". It sounds like it absolutely is not correct |
| 22:10.05 | sid | jair: I'm positive. |
| 22:10.12 | Dwonis | help: xfonts-base ? |
| 22:10.20 | linuxddr | anybody to help me.. ? |
| 22:10.27 | sid | jair: I also am behind a firewall and use a proxy. And I install debian from net install. |
| 22:10.36 | cureless | linuxddr: are you using kde or gnome? |
| 22:10.36 | jair | perfect |
| 22:10.47 | linuxddr | cureless, gnome.. |
| 22:10.55 | sid | !tell linuxddr about paste |
| 22:11.05 | cureless | linuxddr: run "lsof | grep dsp" |
| 22:11.06 | help | Dwonis, the file is correct, i am missing some packages but i do not know which ones they are |
| 22:11.07 | jair | sid: I am having troubles making a xseries 330 IBM server x86 processor with two scsi hard drives work. |
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| 22:11.08 | sid | linuxddr: put "lsmod" onto pastebin and also put cat /etc/modules |
| 22:11.11 | linuxddr | cureless, on debian testing.. ok |
| 22:11.38 | Dwonis | help: well, neither will we, unless you post some logs or something |
| 22:11.39 | MoonPatrol | is ndiswrapper in the package selection menu of aptitude? |
| 22:12.09 | help | this has happened before the fix is to reinstall the missing packages... gdm and three others... but i just can't remember what they are |
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| 22:12.46 | linuxddr | sid, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2724 |
| 22:12.54 | dondelelcaro | MoonPatrol: yes... |
| 22:12.54 | linuxddr | cureless, it does nothing in root |
| 22:13.05 | cureless | linuxddr: k, just checking nothing was using dsp |
| 22:13.16 | crazy_penguin | good night to all! pleasent dreams! |
| 22:13.21 | sid | linuxddr: What desktop enviroment or window manager are you using? |
| 22:13.29 | help | how do i read the log? |
| 22:13.36 | linuxddr | sid, gnome and xorg with debian testing.. |
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| 22:13.53 | jair | sid: I have a 330 IBM and when I am in the phase of recognize the HD for partitioning does not want to see it |
| 22:14.04 | help | i have '1 failure sincs last login.' |
| 22:14.07 | help | and have mail |
| 22:14.20 | help | how do i read that mail notice under cli |
| 22:14.30 | Thumann | 'mail' |
| 22:14.32 | sid | linuxddr: killall artsd; killall esd; modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss; apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils; alsaconf; alsamixer; |
| 22:14.44 | sid | linuxddr: echo snd-pcm-oss >> /etc/modules |
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| 22:14.57 | linuxddr | sid, i already installed alsa.. but ok |
| 22:15.00 | widrone | Hey dpkg any factiods to help me make sure I get my 2.4 sarge into the 2.6 world, like a checklist? |
| 22:15.04 | sid | linuxddr: Then it won't do anything. |
| 22:15.21 | linuxddr | sid, ok but i already installed alsa.. |
| 22:15.26 | sid | !tell widrone about sarge 2.6.15 |
| 22:15.52 | sid | linuxddr: Then it won't matter and it won't reinstall it. |
| 22:15.58 | linuxddr | sid, ok ! |
| 22:15.59 | widrone | !beer sid |
| 22:16.38 | linuxddr | sid, do you want to modify /etc/modprobe.d... do i say yes or no ? |
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| 22:17.28 | linuxddr | sid ? |
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| 22:18.12 | sid | linuxddr: What is the question? |
| 22:18.16 | sid | from dialogue |
| 22:18.26 | AoA | is there any config file for GDM (login manager for choosing window manager) to add or remove window managers ? |
| 22:18.35 | ab3l | hi what's the extansion of cups printer file (somewhat phd pdd ) i don't remember someone do ? |
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| 22:19.04 | linuxddr | sid, yes ? its the question " do you want to modify /etc/modprobe.d/sound" their is an yes or no what do i sya ? |
| 22:19.05 | Thumann | ab3l: there's a huge archive at linuxprinting.org |
| 22:19.07 | Thumann | i think |
| 22:19.10 | Thumann | can't remember though |
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| 22:19.20 | sid | linuxddr: yes I guess |
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| 22:19.26 | sid | linuxddr: If you ever aren't sure always go with the default value |
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| 22:19.42 | linuxddr | sid, yea that's what i thinked too.. |
| 22:19.53 | ab3l | oh thx it was ppd |
| 22:19.56 | sid | !tell AoA about gdm |
| 22:20.21 | linuxddr | sid, done your comands |
| 22:20.33 | sid | linuxddr: Now fireup enemy territory |
| 22:20.49 | sid | If it doesn't work..try irc.gamesurge.net and #TC:Elite and #ET #enemyterritory |
| 22:20.54 | sid | linuxddr: Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr |
| 22:21.01 | AoA | sid : nothing helps |
| 22:21.24 | linuxddr | sid, ok yes im already in #debian-fr but thanks too.. |
| 22:21.28 | linuxddr | sid, im testing ! |
| 22:21.41 | sid | AoA: dpkg told you want to edit |
| 22:21.54 | linuxddr | sid, working well thanks so much !! |
| 22:21.56 | sid | AoA: ~/.gnomerc |
| 22:22.02 | sid | linuxddr: glad to hear it |
| 22:22.07 | AoA | I dont have that file sid |
| 22:22.16 | sid | linuxddr: And awesome mod of enemy territory is "True Combat Elite" www.truecombat.com |
| 22:22.26 | sid | linuxddr: I love that game, it's like counter-strike but more realistic and imho better. |
| 22:22.31 | tarzeau | !seen abrotman |
| 22:22.32 | dpkg | abrotman <n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 55m 2s ago, saying: 'weak motor'. |
| 22:22.35 | tarzeau | it's hilarious really |
| 22:22.41 | AoA | I want to GUI login manager |
| 22:22.46 | AoA | I want to edit GUI login manager |
| 22:23.06 | ab3l | mm ok :) another thing : someone already "fought" with an ESS 1989 Allegro 1 cip-based sound card ? |
| 22:23.09 | RvGaTe | What do i need to do to get a custom script running at startup ? |
| 22:23.10 | tarzeau | i want a pony |
| 22:23.20 | eddiecheng | if my mount lets say /var/ is full with webpages and maxed up. i have another mount /home which is 200gb space.can i change the mount just like that by editing /etc/fstab and restart ? |
| 22:23.23 | tarzeau | RvGaTe: /etc/init.d/autoexec.bat |
| 22:23.31 | linuxddr | sid, yes i will try this thx.. |
| 22:23.51 | thingfish | hehe tarzeau |
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| 22:24.09 | eddiecheng | can i just chang mount in fstab. will my files be erased ? |
| 22:24.14 | eddiecheng | change |
| 22:24.16 | linuxddr | sid, in true combat elite is there many players ? |
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| 22:24.42 | sid | linuxddr: yes it's multiplayer |
| 22:24.49 | sid | linuxddr: You can have 3 on 3, or 25 on 25 |
| 22:25.00 | linuxddr | sid, ok |
| 22:25.01 | sid | There is a large variety of the quantity of people on the server. |
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| 22:25.24 | sid | tarzeau: Will your pony run linux? |
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| 22:25.42 | sid | !tell RvGaTe about startup |
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| 22:26.10 | linuxddr | sid, i need help too to activate fast write on my nvidia graphic card can you guide me for it or ? |
| 22:26.24 | sid | RvGaTe: You just make your script, /etc/init.d/blah.sh; then you make a symbolic link to it in your runlevel(2 by default) ln -s /etc/rc2.d/S99blah /etc/init.d/blah.sh |
| 22:26.24 | Profetas_Do_PHP | galera, instalei o Debian 3.1 aqui, + axo que ele nam reconheceu meus drivers, instalei no meu notebook que he 1 Sony Vaio VGN-FS660/W , baixei todos os CDs do Debian aqui, tenho todos os CDs se precisar, e tb o modo gráfico he o Gnome, como faço pra instalar os drivers ? |
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| 22:26.32 | sid | RvGaTe: And you chmod +x /etc/init.d/blah.sh |
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| 22:26.50 | sid | Profetas_Do_PHP: Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:27.11 | thingfish | ta boa! |
| 22:27.28 | Profetas_Do_PHP | se brincar aqui tem + brasileiro q americano hehehhe |
| 22:27.49 | linuxddr | sid, i need help too to activate fast write on my nvidia graphic card can you help me to do it ? |
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| 22:28.06 | sid | linuxddr: Not sure what "fast write" is. |
| 22:28.19 | sid | linuxddr: I know there is #nvidia on this irc daemon. |
| 22:29.13 | linuxddr | sid, ok thx hehe fast write it's an proces that graphic card does with mb.. to acelerate the transfer.. so you get more fps.. |
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| 22:29.48 | Firehand | linuxddr: hang on a second then i can give you the info :) |
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| 22:30.16 | RvGaTe | thx sid |
| 22:30.21 | Firehand | linuxddr: add this to your /etc/modutils/nvidia-kernel file: options nvidia NVreg_EnableAGPSBA=1 NVreg_EnableAGPFW=1 |
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| 22:30.27 | Firehand | this will activate SBA and FW |
| 22:30.38 | Firehand | check if both is supported on your card / mainboard |
| 22:30.43 | linuxddr | ok Firehand |
| 22:30.49 | eddiecheng | how do i swithc mounts |
| 22:30.50 | eddiecheng | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.50 | eddiecheng | * BeTraVE has joined |
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| 22:31.05 | eddiecheng | sorry |
| 22:31.05 | eddiecheng | /dev/sdb5 /home ext3 defaults 0 2 |
| 22:31.05 | eddiecheng | /dev/sda5 /var ext3 defaults 0 2 |
| 22:31.11 | eddiecheng | how do i switch mounts |
| 22:31.20 | Firehand | linuxddr: you need to reload the kernel module after that :) |
| 22:31.20 | eddiecheng | the space on /var is running out |
| 22:31.23 | linuxddr | Firehand, but i installed with the nvidia installer so theirs not this directory.. |
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| 22:31.38 | ab3l | so anyone 've a ESS 1989 Allegro-1 chip based soundcard ? |
| 22:31.41 | Malagmyr | !tell eddiecheng about enter |
| 22:31.43 | Firehand | linuxddr: then add that file :) |
| 22:31.48 | sid | linuxddr: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |grep -i fast |
| 22:31.54 | sid | linuxddr: Print those results in here. |
| 22:32.16 | sid | o wait nevermind, someone is already helping who has actually done it, heh. |
| 22:32.18 | linuxddr | sid, Firehand, "Fast Writes: Disabled" |
| 22:32.35 | clarity_ | what's some good encryption software? |
| 22:32.46 | Firehand | linuxddr: this is interessting too: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/host-bridge | grep -i fast |
| 22:32.50 | linuxddr | sid, Firehand, but my sba is activated.. |
| 22:33.05 | linuxddr | Firehand, Fast Writes: Supported |
| 22:33.15 | Firehand | hm |
| 22:33.19 | linuxddr | i already checked this info and it's supported.. |
| 22:33.21 | sid | linuxddr: After you edit the file, you should rmmod nvidia; modprobe nvidia; then restart X |
| 22:33.28 | linuxddr | sid, ok |
| 22:33.33 | sid | I would imagine at least. |
| 22:33.35 | Malagmyr | eddiecheng: I suppose what you want is to use another partition as /var. Just mount that partition somewhere else, cp -r /var/* /new/partition/mount/directory/ and change the device in fstab |
| 22:33.46 | Firehand | and hope FW is stable on your chipset :) |
| 22:33.53 | ab3l | so anyone 've a ESS 1989 Allegro-1 chip based soundcard ? i need help with this s.c. |
| 22:34.15 | linuxddr | Firehand, yes it is ! i already have it on windows (when i was on it..) and it worked well.. |
| 22:34.21 | Malagmyr | ab3l: just ask your question |
| 22:34.25 | Firehand | linuxddr: that should do+ |
| 22:34.30 | Firehand | s/+//; |
| 22:34.31 | ab3l | no audio with that card |
| 22:34.34 | ab3l | that's all |
| 22:34.42 | sid | I'm away from keyboard for 30 minutes to go on a beer run. |
| 22:34.50 | linuxddr | sid, ok |
| 22:34.51 | Malagmyr | That is not a question. |
| 22:34.59 | thingfish | sid: don't buy cheap beer. |
| 22:35.05 | Malagmyr | ab3l: try loading the appropriate driver, however |
| 22:35.06 | ab3l | the question is how to get it ... ? |
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| 22:35.13 | Malagmyr | ab3l: and check your mixer settings |
| 22:35.20 | ab3l | it's not muted |
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| 22:36.10 | Malagmyr | and the correct driver is loaded? |
| 22:36.15 | ab3l | yes |
| 22:36.31 | ab3l | but my sound card need an option that is called Docked Speakers in windows |
| 22:36.35 | sid | thingfish: I was going to buy budweiser..no good? |
| 22:37.01 | ab3l | i need such a stuff in debian or it won't work |
| 22:37.01 | linuxddr | Firehand, ? |
| 22:37.19 | thingfish | sid: buy what you want. don't mind me. you don't have a local microbrewery? |
| 22:37.20 | ab3l | btw the soundcard is a yamaha xwave |
| 22:37.22 | Firehand | linuxddr: yes? |
| 22:37.39 | linuxddr | Firehand, dosen't work "<Firehand> s/+//;" |
| 22:37.46 | sid | thingfish: yea...that's where I'm going. The Black Forest |
| 22:37.50 | Malagmyr | wth is "docked speakers"? |
| 22:37.56 | sid | I don't buy budweiser piss, lol. I was just pulling your leg. |
| 22:38.12 | sid | thingfish: http://www.blackforestbrewhaus.com/about.htm |
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| 22:38.13 | Malagmyr | check out the various flags you can append when loading the driver |
| 22:38.15 | sid | bbiab |
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| 22:38.25 | ab3l | i dunno but in win that option setted on makes the sound works setting it off mean no audio |
| 22:38.32 | johnga1t | anyone have experience w/ airport extreme on debian ppc? (i'm using ubuntu, but that channel is less than helpful) |
| 22:38.52 | ab3l | it's so "particular" that"for windows (xp) there's only a driver supprtinfg that |
| 22:38.55 | beardy | johnga1t: Run Debian then. |
| 22:38.56 | paroneayea | anyone running unstable finding that totem-gstreamer just segfaults every time you try to run it? |
| 22:39.11 | cheal | johnga1t: this isn't a backup channel for #ubuntu |
| 22:39.21 | Malagmyr | ab3l: try google, then. find out what it is first, before you try figuring out how to enable it. you need to know what you want |
| 22:39.43 | ab3l | tried it all ;) and also the card is listed as supported |
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| 22:39.57 | linuxddr | gonna B eating for me |
| 22:40.01 | ab3l | but i'm able to record with that but not to play under debian and i dunno why |
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| 22:40.33 | Malagmyr | well if you've tried "it all" there's no point in me trying too... |
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| 22:40.53 | Brujah | Hello everybody! |
| 22:40.53 | widrone | Would a kernel-image-*-686 boot on a AMD Athlon XP at all, or is k7 my flavour? (Its my first amd!) |
| 22:41.00 | ab3l | i just asked if someone got an ess chip based card ;) |
| 22:41.11 | Malagmyr | someone probably does |
| 22:41.25 | Brujah | Can anybody here help me with creating a .deb of a binary program that I have written? |
| 22:41.27 | ab3l | the only who answered is you |
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| 22:41.37 | beardy | widrone: Yes, k7 is Athlon XP's flavour |
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| 22:41.40 | widrone | Brujah: There is excelent documentation. |
| 22:41.50 | johnga1t | beardy: k. sorry bout that. |
| 22:41.52 | beardy | widrone: 386 always works |
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| 22:41.56 | johnga1t | cheal: sorry. advice taken. |
| 22:42.04 | Brujah | widrone: I read the maintainer guide but its only for packages you can build from source |
| 22:42.05 | johnga1t | cheal: just figured that wireless is wireless. |
| 22:42.30 | dynamite | I was wondering if anyone can help me setup oidentd ? It just wont work for me |
| 22:42.44 | widrone | Brujah: The http://www.us.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ I persume? |
| 22:42.57 | Malagmyr | yes, if you read !ask, you'll know why. people don't like that kind of question. imagine if someone asks "does anyone here use vim as their text editor?" and everyone who did answered... just state your problem, the exact error messages you get (if any), what you've tried etc. in one message and you might get a whole lot luckier |
| 22:43.06 | widrone | Brujah: You have the source of this program you have written yes? |
| 22:43.11 | beardy | !tell johnga1t -about wireless |
| 22:43.29 | ab3l | !ess |
| 22:43.30 | Brujah | widrone: Yes I read this. And I have the source but its a commercial compiler |
| 22:43.33 | beardy | johnga1t: Thanks for understanding us. |
| 22:43.34 | AlexCTI | Hi, someone can give me a hand... I have my machine with 2 NICs, one of them was disable and now i'm try to turn in up, so I turn in UP with ifup eth0 and then i set the IPs and I leave the DfGW with the eth0, but when I try to get into it eth0 using ssh or make ping it do not respond.... Any Ideas? |
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| 22:44.22 | widrone | Brujah: Oh... I did follow the generic skeleton of the info there once I made a .deb only I was suppsed to use I seem to remember. |
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| 22:44.53 | samuel | anyone know why gnome-power-manager only works on etch according to its own website and not on sid? |
| 22:45.01 | Brujah | widrone: I created a "spec" for rpm. Is there something similar for deb? |
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| 22:45.35 | gs | hi |
| 22:46.01 | widrone | Brujah: Youre getting in over my head, just pointed at what I know for a starter. |
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| 22:46.52 | widrone | AlexCTI: default route perhapps? Maybe you got multiple of them. |
| 22:46.55 | Brujah | Anybody here that can create a deb here for me? All debian and ubuntu users would profit from it! |
| 22:47.20 | Brujah | I am not that deep into debian yet... |
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| 22:48.02 | Gnea | Brujah: nah, but you could learn |
| 22:48.22 | DjStatik | Quick question ... if I have a custom package archive, which all servers syncronize from mightly "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" any suggestions on prepopulating debconf answers so they don't get asked during the update process? |
| 22:48.27 | Gnea | Brujah: www.debian.org |
| 22:48.38 | dynamite | I was wondering if anyone can help me setup oidentd ? It just wont work for me |
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| 22:48.53 | Brujah | Gnea: Its not that I do not read docus. But maybe somebody could do it very fast. Would take me a long time I fear... |
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| 22:49.16 | Gnea | Brujah: if it didn't take a long time, then it's a fuckup |
| 22:49.22 | phogg | Brujah: if someone else can do it really fast then it's a simple package and you can do it yourself after a few hours of reading |
| 22:49.54 | samuel | is there a list of words dpkg has? |
| 22:49.58 | samuel | on the channel? |
| 22:50.11 | Brujah | phoohb: A guy wrote me the first spec from where I improved it to a good spec. Something like this for debian would be nice |
| 22:50.20 | Gnea | samuel: like statistics? |
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| 22:50.39 | Gnea | Brujah: are you aware of alien and equivs? |
| 22:50.41 | widrone | Reading thru the new maintainer guide and playing with some simple source learned me a helluva lot about debian, thats for sure. |
| 22:51.04 | thingfish | samuel: /msg dpkg your factoids |
| 22:51.09 | Brujah | Yes. I tried alien. But it does not work very good. Something native would be nicer! |
| 22:51.13 | samuel | Gnea, no, i want to know what are the possible questions it may know answers to, i want to know about gnome power manager |
| 22:51.16 | samuel | thingfish, thanks |
| 22:51.27 | thingfish | np |
| 22:51.36 | Gnea | !gnome |
| 22:51.36 | dpkg | somebody said gnome was a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome>, or the human G-nome |
| 22:52.04 | DjStatik | ahhh, ok, please ignore my last question, I just found get-selections and set-selections, which will help do what I want. |
| 22:52.30 | Gnea | !beer DjStatik |
| 22:52.45 | DjStatik | :) |
| 22:53.05 | AlexCTI | wirdrone, that's my config http://pastebin.com/754510 can you take a look/. |
| 22:53.22 | Brujah | widrone: I agree that should read more about this excellent os. But on the other hand I want to improve my game which also takes a lot of time. I just need somebody that takes me by the hand for a bit... |
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| 22:54.26 | Gnea | Brujah: you won't get it. just read and ask the proper questions now and then. |
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| 22:55.04 | Brujah | Gnea: Why not? Every other user would profit from it? |
| 22:55.11 | widrone | AlexCTI: Hm, looks ok on 1st look thu. |
| 22:55.13 | beardy | Brujah: How? |
| 22:55.23 | Gnea | Brujah: that's a very weak argument. |
| 22:55.34 | Brujah | beardy: Because then the game is a lot easier to install in debian |
| 22:55.39 | AlexCTI | widrone, but... :-S |
| 22:55.50 | beardy | Brujah: What game? And what is the problem? |
| 22:55.50 | Gnea | Brujah: most people don't have time for games. |
| 22:56.04 | Brujah | beardy: http://www.lostlabyrinth.com |
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| 22:56.23 | bulio| | what is the command to configure X? |
| 22:56.26 | bulio| | x -configure? |
| 22:56.34 | dondelelcaro | !tell bulio| -about set up x |
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| 22:56.39 | bulio| | thanks |
| 22:56.48 | thingfish | !drxx bulio| |
| 22:56.49 | dpkg | bulio|: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 22:56.58 | Brujah | beardy: I just want to craete a deb package out of it. Already got a tarball and a rpm |
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| 22:57.09 | dondelelcaro | !tell Brujah about nm guide |
| 22:57.18 | dondelelcaro | Brujah: that will get you started |
| 22:57.19 | Gnea | Brujah: looks like fun |
| 22:57.21 | widrone | AlexCTI: But with those netmaska and ip addresses in the routing table my IPvoodoo is too weak Im afraid. |
| 22:57.33 | cureless | Brujah: looks like zelda |
| 22:57.41 | jon__ | Hey I'm trying to use this GTK theme, but when I do this is what I get in the terminal. |
| 22:57.45 | jon__ | (switch2:4778): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "p |
| 22:57.45 | jon__ | ixmap", |
| 22:57.56 | Gnea | Brujah: listen to dondelelcaro, he's a master debian developer |
| 22:58.03 | dondelelcaro | s/master// |
| 22:58.10 | Gnea | lol |
| 22:58.23 | Gnea | i stand corrected |
| 22:58.37 | AlexCTI | widrone, how the route should looks like? I have 2 publics Ips there |
| 22:58.41 | cureless | for a moment there I parsed that wrong and thought you said s/debian developer// |
| 22:59.21 | stew | AlexCTI: what exactly are you trying to do that isn't working? ssh? to which address? |
| 22:59.24 | Seb | is it only me, or does is the database check from sorbs.net broken right now ? it keeps telling me I need to register, when the front page says registering is not needed for a simple check ... |
| 22:59.26 | phaedrus44 | how do i find out running process and kill one of them? and is ther a gui for that with fluxbox |
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| 22:59.41 | dondelelcaro | phaedrus44: ps axfu|less; kill pid; |
| 22:59.52 | Brujah | Gnea: Yes its like a 10 Years old zelda like game. |
| 22:59.58 | widrone | AlexCTI: You seem to be only routing for 2 destinations like the .8 not for .0 But you got wierd netmasks so I could be missing something. |
| 23:00.00 | beardy | Brujah: Read what dondelelcaro told you about. If you have specific questions about it, try to ask good questions about it. You could also write a note on your site and ask if anyone can help you package it, if you find it's impossible for you, perhaps? |
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| 23:00.19 | widrone | AlexCTI: Seems non debian related, maybe networking channels are better bets at this really. |
| 23:00.35 | phaedrus44 | thanks dondelelcaro |
| 23:00.44 | beardy | Brujah: Looks fun. |
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| 23:01.01 | Brujah | beardy: Try it. Its fast and easy to get into |
| 23:01.09 | cureless | Brujah: if you know where to ask there's a bunch of people who will jump at the oportunity to "practice' their deb packaging skills |
| 23:01.13 | war92 | Anyone know the DEFAULT compression level with rsync? |
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| 23:01.38 | AlexCTI | stew, The only thing that i try to do is enable the eth0, to switch my ISP throug it, but it doesn't respond any ping or ssh. |
| 23:01.39 | dondelelcaro | AlexCTI: it'd help if you'd give us the ip addr; ip route; or ifconfig and route -n output for both machines. |
| 23:01.44 | Brujah | cureless: Sounds good :-) But no clue whom to ask... |
| 23:01.51 | widrone | Brujah: Looks wery fun indeed =) |
| 23:01.58 | ding0k | could someone here recommend a debian package used as a backup configuration utility...something similar to syncback in windows. I want somethign that will not just blindly copy from one location to another, but check mod dates and save the newest version on both sources, etc. any ideas? |
| 23:02.04 | AlexCTI | sure.. hold on |
| 23:02.15 | cureless | Brujah: the question is not whom but where* |
| 23:02.17 | widrone | AlexCTI: Paste the link again. |
| 23:02.30 | AlexCTI | http://pastebin.com/754510 |
| 23:02.33 | Brujah | cureless: Means not in this place? |
| 23:02.52 | AoA | can somebody tell me how in list for choosing window managers in GUI login manager in debian sarge exist KDE and other managers ? how can I add managers ? |
| 23:03.11 | dondelelcaro | AoA: you add an entry to /etc/gdm/Sessions/ FE> |
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| 23:03.19 | beardy | AoA: Just install some more, and they will appear in the menu. |
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| 23:03.52 | AoA | dondelelcaro : I want new KDE and I dont want where what to add |
| 23:04.19 | AoA | dondelelcaro : I want new KDE and I dont know where what to add |
| 23:04.31 | dondelelcaro | AoA: so install a new version of kde; there should be a kde session already extant in kdm or gdm |
| 23:05.09 | AoA | dondelelcaro : but if I want to install all new KDE in separate folder... ? |
| 23:05.17 | AlexCTI | dondelelcaro, is only one machine with two NICs |
| 23:05.21 | dondelelcaro | AoA: don't do that. Install the kde versions which are packaged |
| 23:05.28 | dondelelcaro | AlexCTI: ok, and what is the current problem? |
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| 23:06.04 | dondelelcaro | !pe |
| 23:06.04 | dpkg | i guess pe is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:06.05 | deadcat | !.pe |
| 23:06.05 | dpkg | hmm... .pe is Peru |
| 23:06.06 | AlexCTI | dondelelcaro, the problem is with the eth0, don't repond, so eth1 works perfect |
| 23:06.27 | dondelelcaro | and you're pinging eth0 from where? |
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| 23:07.16 | dondelelcaro | AlexCTI: since 208.111.30.16 is a routable address, it'll only be accessible through routers that are advertising a path to it |
| 23:07.45 | Brujah | I just read that there is a control file for .deb. Which maybe is short for this game. Could anybody write a short one for lost labyrinth? |
| 23:07.48 | sid | !tetrinet |
| 23:07.49 | dpkg | well, tetrinet is multiplayer TETRIS, get the client software by typing "apt-get install gtetrinet" as root...then as non-root start gtetrinet and connect to tetrinet.debian.net ... Everyone is welcome to come play... debian developers play, and so do debian users...come join the fun! yes that means _YOU_ join now. |
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| 23:08.15 | dondelelcaro | Brujah: if you want someone to package it, file an RFP using reportbug; the control file is only a small part of the packaging process, though. |
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| 23:08.40 | cureless | Brujah: your other option is to look at other things that are packaged and see what you can "borrow" from there |
| 23:08.46 | stew | AlexCTI: show me the output of "route -n" when it is not working |
| 23:08.46 | AlexCTI | dondelelcaro, that is a fixed IP, I tested in a laptop before attach to debian machime |
| 23:08.49 | Brujah | dondelelcaro: I did this already. But they told me that nobody will help me with a nonfree program :-( |
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| 23:09.04 | dondelelcaro | Brujah: well, then you'll have to do it yourself |
| 23:09.07 | AlexCTI | ok stew hold on |
| 23:09.11 | cureless | Brujah: the main problem is, if what you want is for the game to be in debian you will need a good packaging job, and doing things half way through won't get you anywhere. |
| 23:09.57 | cureless | Brujah: it's non-free? as in "it can fit in debian non-free? or as in it's for sale software? |
| 23:09.58 | dondelelcaro | AlexCTI: and eth0 is plugged into the 208.111.30.16/29 network? |
| 23:10.03 | AlexCTI | stew, http://pastebin.com/754543 |
| 23:10.07 | Brujah | cureless: I totally understand this. But as a beginner I will create a bad package. For sure! |
| 23:10.19 | beardy | cureless: Why not dfsg-free? |
| 23:10.22 | Brujah | cureless: Its open source. But the compiler is not. |
| 23:10.33 | AlexCTI | dondelelcaro, yes, it is plug in it. |
| 23:10.36 | cureless | I see. |
| 23:10.59 | stew | AlexCTI: and exactly what command doesn't work? |
| 23:11.15 | cureless | Brujah: well, as you've been told, the debian documentation is actually pretty good, you should try to go over it. |
| 23:11.16 | beardy | oh, he said that. |
| 23:11.42 | AlexCTI | the eth0 doesn't work, do not repond ping, or SSH |
| 23:11.47 | dondelelcaro | AlexCTI: uh... something is really screwed up in the routes to it |
| 23:11.49 | dondelelcaro | 11. 209.208.12.26 0.0% 3 65.0 65.4 65.0 66.0 0.5 |
| 23:11.52 | dondelelcaro | 12. 65.77.228.14 0.0% 3 66.1 66.5 66.1 67.3 0.7 |
| 23:12.11 | war92 | sup ppl. |
| 23:12.22 | dondelelcaro | I've no clue why 65.77.228.14 things it should be responding to pings sent to 208.111.30.16 |
| 23:12.26 | beardy | Brujah: What compiler is used? |
| 23:12.50 | Brujah | cureless: A simple example for binary packages is missing... There are alot of commands in the documentation that I cannot use |
| 23:12.57 | Brujah | beardy: purebasic |
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| 23:13.38 | ding0k | could someone here recommend a debian package used as a backup configuration utility...something similar to syncback in windows. I want somethign that will not just blindly copy from one location to another, but check mod dates and save the newest version on both sources, etc. any ideas? |
| 23:13.54 | stew | AlexCTI: are you saying that other machines can't hit eth0 on this machine, or you cannot use eth0 from this machine to reach other machines? |
| 23:13.59 | wam | ding0k: rsync |
| 23:14.02 | cureless | ding0k: rsync |
| 23:14.12 | wam | cureless: first ;) |
| 23:14.18 | cureless | ding0k: though having no idea what syncback does maybe that's not waht you want |
| 23:14.22 | cureless | wam: touche |
| 23:14.34 | AlexCTI | stew, other machines can not reach eth0 |
| 23:14.34 | ding0k | lol, I'll check it out, thanks guys |
| 23:15.07 | stew | AlexCTI: other machines on the 208.111.30.16/29 network, or machines from other networks? |
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| 23:16.32 | Celeste | hi |
| 23:16.39 | ding0k | warn / cureless : does this have to send over a network socket or can it write to any handle |
| 23:16.41 | Celeste | I am searching for an icewm user |
| 23:16.44 | Celeste | anyone here? |
| 23:16.44 | AlexCTI | stew, i test 2 IPs of these range on my laptop and i could surf fine and do anything fine, but right now that is the only machine on that range. |
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| 23:16.53 | cureless | ding0k: it can do remote or local |
| 23:16.54 | dvs | Celeste: just ask the question |
| 23:17.06 | ding0k | cureless : ty. this will do what I need it to. I appreciate your help |
| 23:17.22 | Celeste | dvs, there are 3 things I am not sure about |
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| 23:17.41 | stew | AlexCTI: /msg dpkg split access |
| 23:17.42 | deadcat | Celeste: usb |
| 23:17.50 | deadcat | final answer |
| 23:17.51 | tuvwx | wow.. X.org 7 is in testing.. |
| 23:17.51 | Celeste | dvs, can I add more program icons in the taskbar? per default there are only 2 icons |
| 23:17.57 | deadcat | tuvwx: wow.. |
| 23:18.10 | dvs | Celeste: I dunno. I don't use icewm |
| 23:18.11 | AlexCTI | stew, what is that? |
| 23:18.15 | deadcat | Celeste: yes. just drag them there.. click click click |
| 23:18.17 | Celeste | heh :) |
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| 23:18.24 | Celeste | deadcat, you cannot drag and drop in icewm |
| 23:18.26 | linuxddr | tuvwx, X.org 7 is in testing ? |
| 23:18.32 | deadcat | Celeste: oh |
| 23:18.43 | samuel | anyone know how to set the values for the ondemand kernel frequency scaling module? |
| 23:18.50 | deadcat | tuvwx: upgrade and tell us the result |
| 23:18.51 | stew | !split access |
| 23:18.51 | dpkg | hmm... split access is when you have 2 networks connected to the same computer, with their separate default gateways, the dirst step in loadbalancing, http://yellowpigs.net/computers/multiple_subnets, or http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 23:19.06 | samuel | as in how it "usually" sets the frequency? |
| 23:19.16 | AlexCTI | stew done |
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| 23:19.41 | tuvwx | at least in the mirrors.kernel.org mirror.. X.org 7 is in testing |
| 23:19.49 | jblack | I'm trying to move a debian system from using lilo to using grub. How do I get a nifty autogenerated menu.lst? |
| 23:20.01 | deadcat | jblack: update-grub |
| 23:20.11 | linuxddr | tuvwx, ok ! |
| 23:20.26 | jblack | deadcat: Awesome. |
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| 23:20.51 | tuvwx | I don't suppose anyone has tried it off testing.. |
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| 23:21.08 | Naz__ | I have a debian server on my LAN. I use netatalk to transfer files between my mac and it. It uses AFP. I mounted a drive on it to help edit my wesite. Whenever I upload something or change something with the files, the folder seems to go blank. But when I check on the server, all the changes and the other files are there. This only happens on mounted drives. What's wrong? |
| 23:21.09 | deadcat | tuvwx: no you will be the first |
| 23:21.13 | hjubal | bye |
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| 23:22.10 | tuvwx | deadcat, i'm still horrified by the volume of complains here in #debian channel when xorg7 first hit unstable! |
| 23:22.25 | deadcat | tuvwx: unstable is not testing |
| 23:22.53 | deadcat | tuvwx: we complain in unstable so you can enjoy in testing |
| 23:22.58 | tuvwx | deadcat, i know, but i'd really like to know that those problems were fixed |
| 23:23.10 | dondelelcaro | tuvwx: if you want to know that, check the bts... we do track these things |
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| 23:24.07 | abrotman | what's the bts? |
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| 23:24.14 | dmesg | hi |
| 23:24.17 | dondelelcaro | !murder abrotman |
| 23:24.23 | dmesg | any one use qmail? |
| 23:24.28 | deadcat | abrotman: its a candy store |
| 23:24.31 | deadcat | dmesg: no |
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| 23:24.57 | abrotman | deadcat: nice! |
| 23:25.17 | Thumann | i've got a initrd image creation script here.. suntax is -linuxscript -targetfilename |
| 23:25.27 | Thumann | any ide on what -linuxscript is? |
| 23:25.32 | Thumann | as in.. what they mean |
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| 23:25.38 | tuvwx | dmesg, you asked the wrong question.. i did that too just yesterday! |
| 23:25.52 | Thumann | http://tienstra4.flatnet.tudelft.nl/~gerte/gen2dmraid/dmraidinitrd <- script |
| 23:25.56 | deadcat | tuvwx: no. i answered him |
| 23:26.24 | tuvwx | deadcat, your answer supports what i'm sayint :) |
| 23:26.30 | tuvwx | deadcat, your answer supports what i'm saying :) |
| 23:26.59 | tuvwx | o-o, nice glasses.. :) |
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| 23:27.37 | beardy | abrotman: bring the swimsuit |
| 23:27.46 | Brujah | cureless: could you point me to a package that I could use to build my onw package. Maybe another non-free package? |
| 23:28.27 | abrotman | beardy: to what? |
| 23:28.36 | AlexCTI | stew, Question: If I want just leave the Inbound traffic on eth0, I should use one DfGw and the eth0 should accept the traffic right? |
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| 23:28.44 | deadcat | abrotman: bts candy store |
| 23:28.48 | abrotman | oh |
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| 23:29.53 | cureless | Brujah: just pick one that resembles your game |
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| 23:30.27 | Brujah | cureless: Just looking over the packages on the debian homepage. But found nothing yet... |
| 23:31.18 | tansaku | I'm wondering about /etc/debian_version - my understanding is that /etc/apt/sources.list really determines what a machine will get in the way of upgrades, e.g. that is where I make the change if I want to move to a new stable version, but so can I ignore debian_version? update it manually? leave it to be updated by apt? |
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| 23:32.13 | deadcat | tuvwx: yes |
| 23:32.24 | deadcat | tansaku: yes |
| 23:32.26 | Brujah | cureless: When I found a package. What do I have to do? Download the source? Will that contain infomations for packaging? |
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| 23:33.16 | cureless | Brujah: the correct solution is to look at the documentation. Look at other packages for examples. But don't expect people to actually want to install your .deb if it's just a crappy packaging job. |
| 23:33.19 | abrotman | deadcat: that wasn't a yes/no question :) |
| 23:33.24 | deadcat | oh |
| 23:33.25 | deadcat | (= |
| 23:33.26 | beardy | tansaku: You shouldn't, and don't ever need to touch /etc/debian_version |
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| 23:33.32 | tansaku | deadcat: so you're saying it won't matter whether I ignore it or update it, there will be no adverse effects from me just upgrading by modifying sources.list and leaving debian_version alone |
| 23:33.50 | tansaku | beardy: sure - will it get updated automatically at some point? |
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| 23:34.05 | deadcat | tansaku: debian_version dont really tell you anything. just pay attention to the sources.list file |
| 23:34.09 | beardy | tansaku: Sure, that's what it's there for. |
| 23:34.13 | Brujah | cureless: I do not yet understand where I can find examples |
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| 23:34.29 | beardy | tansaku: But wht deadcat said above is true, don't trust it. |
| 23:34.31 | abrotman | tansaku: you don't change that file yourself |
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| 23:35.33 | tansaku | beardy: cool, thanks, so if I, say, change all my sources.list references from woody to sarge, and then run apt-get dist-upgrade debian_version will take care of itself? |
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| 23:35.47 | deadcat | tansaku: yes |
| 23:35.58 | cureless | Brujah: any debian source package, look at something simple like... patch. |
| 23:36.01 | tansaku | cool - thanks for your help guys |
| 23:36.04 | beardy | tansaku: Yes. However, read "/msg dpkg woody->sarge" first. |
| 23:36.25 | cureless | Brujah: but your reasoning right now seems to be pure lazyness since you don't want to read the docs. |
| 23:36.34 | beardy | tansaku: It suggests using aptitude instead of apt-get, IIRC. |
| 23:37.12 | tansaku | beardy: thanks |
| 23:37.15 | stew | AlexCTI: no you need two default gateways, you need traffic that arrives on eth0 to go out ohn eth0. if someone tries to establish a connection with your eth0 interface, they are not going to want the reply packets to come from a completely different ip address |
| 23:37.23 | phaedrus44 | can someone help me with xinitrc so i can have apps start on bootup? |
| 23:37.23 | beardy | tansaku: You're welcome. |
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| 23:37.50 | stew | AlexCTI: and if you have 2 default gateways, yo need to do the more complicated stuff as outlined by the lartc.org url |
| 23:38.06 | abrotman | iirc you can't have two defaults |
| 23:38.33 | stew | you can |
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| 23:38.50 | Brujah | cureless: I found .dsc files. Which seem to contain basic informations about packaging. |
| 23:38.58 | abrotman | you can have two gateways ... but two defaults> |
| 23:39.12 | abrotman | ? |
| 23:39.23 | stew | AlexCTI: abrotman http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
| 23:39.30 | beardy | By definition of "default" that's impossible, isn't it? |
| 23:39.38 | stew | no |
| 23:39.55 | stew | you have 2 routing tables, and each has a default |
| 23:40.21 | beardy | Well, then each table has only one, and not two. |
| 23:40.26 | AlexCTI | so, it means that i have to put both? one for each one? |
| 23:40.28 | abrotman | that's not quite the same |
| 23:40.55 | stew | yes, you have two routing tables, each with one default gateway for a total of 2 default gateways |
| 23:41.07 | cureless | there is 1 "main" routing table |
| 23:41.42 | stew | cureless: yes, and in this case that table will not have a default gateway |
| 23:41.43 | Shadowcat | why is that I keep seeing cureless as clueless |
| 23:41.44 | beardy | stew: But for every routing table, or other thing, there can only be one default, correct? |
| 23:42.37 | cureless | Shadowcat: subconscious? |
| 23:42.45 | abrotman | or he can't read |
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| 23:43.08 | cureless | it's actually my mental trick to hide amongst the masses |
| 23:43.11 | stew | beardy: for every routing table you can only have one default, i don't know what other thing is |
| 23:43.18 | samuel | how can i find out what cpu exactly is in my laptop? i remember its an intel, but not much else |
| 23:43.23 | samuel | pentium 4 |
| 23:43.25 | beardy | stew: When one says two defaults, one has to say something more, I feel anyway, otherwise the meaning becomes invalid. |
| 23:43.34 | deadcat | samuel: /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 23:43.42 | balrog | hello, i'm new to linux.... i recently installed debian so dont be so hard on me XD |
| 23:43.45 | stew | beardy: i said two defaults and gave him a url that told him exactly how to set it up |
| 23:43.55 | beardy | stew: other thing can be, one default bootloader configuration, per bootloader, and so on |
| 23:44.20 | deadcat | samuel: how can you NOT know your own machine's cpu chipset? |
| 23:44.29 | samuel | deadcat, Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz is that a pentium M or just a 4? |
| 23:44.32 | beardy | stew: I'm talking about English, the meaning and use of the word "default". Not arguuing about your advise. |
| 23:44.51 | balrog | i have a windows wich i want to connect to internet through this one (debian)... can someone give me a link where routing in debian is explained? (bad english XD) |
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| 23:45.03 | stew | beardy: ok, and free means costs nothing... |
| 23:45.04 | deadcat | samuel: i dont know |
| 23:45.06 | stew | :) |
| 23:45.24 | cureless | btw, there is a "default" gateway |
| 23:45.36 | cureless | as in 1 default gateway |
| 23:45.40 | stew | cureless: sometimes there's even 2 :) |
| 23:45.43 | streuner | hm |
| 23:46.02 | balrog | yes, i use the gateway to connect this through the windows pc, but i dont know how to do it backwards XD |
| 23:46.07 | cureless | but for 2 they're not really "default", they're "default" per ip, but when you open an unnamed socket it will have 1 default. |
| 23:46.10 | samuel | deadcat, its a laptop i use, i just dont remember |
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| 23:46.30 | deadcat | samuel: stolen? |
| 23:46.43 | samuel | deadcat, hahahaha |
| 23:46.44 | samuel | no |
| 23:46.51 | samuel | just old |
| 23:47.06 | abrotman | P4 is sooo old |
| 23:47.08 | deadcat | that dont sound old.. |
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| 23:47.38 | beardy | old is something older than a 386 |
| 23:47.55 | balrog | in my country that's brand new (?) |
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| 23:47.59 | balrog | really =P |
| 23:48.03 | beardy | heh :) |
| 23:48.11 | abrotman | !tell l4vim about root |
| 23:48.17 | widrone | !tell balrog about tldp |
| 23:48.31 | balrog | thxs widrone |
| 23:48.35 | nowhere_man | hi all |
| 23:48.35 | balrog | let's see |
| 23:48.43 | nowhere_man | I come back with my SSL problem |
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| 23:49.03 | nowhere_man | with SSLEngine On, apache2 won't start |
| 23:49.04 | widrone | balrog: Generic howtos, but find the networking one for general linux networling information. |
| 23:49.09 | nowhere_man | I have the following log |
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| 23:49.32 | abrotman | prepare the cannon! |
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| 23:49.55 | nowhere_man | [Sat Jun 03 01:45:31 2006] [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `arcanes.fr.eu.org' does NOT match server name!? |
| 23:49.55 | nowhere_man | [Sat Jun 03 01:45:31 2006] [error] Illegal attempt to re-initialise SSL for server (theoretically shouldn't happen!) |
| 23:50.12 | abrotman | nowhere_man: try #apache |
| 23:50.25 | nowhere_man | oh shit, I thought I was in it, sorry |
| 23:50.36 | christor | abrotman: Have u a chan fro prob wifi on debian :'(? |
| 23:50.42 | abrotman | !u |
| 23:50.42 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 23:50.47 | abrotman | and #wireless ? |
| 23:50.50 | abrotman | or ask here |
| 23:51.17 | christor | abrotman: oh and it s true , wireless exists !!! very thx |
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| 23:52.18 | christor | abrotman: I m trying to use my wifi card ( atheros wg311T) using the madwifi driver and using WPA. But it doesn t work. I use the wpa_supplicant and I have NO AP found |
| 23:52.24 | Brujah | cureless: I am reading the maintainers guide again (I am not that lazy :-) ). My problem: I get to the point where I need dh_make which is not existing... Is this maybe because I am using kubuntu? |
| 23:52.40 | abrotman | christor: you could also ask #madwifi |
| 23:52.48 | abrotman | Brujah: #kubuntu please |
| 23:53.41 | cureless | Brujah: sort of. The basic answer is, the guide is intended for people using debian, you need to use debian. Having said that, there are ways to get it working on other distros, specially debian derived, but I don't think you'll find much help for that here. |
| 23:54.19 | Brujah | abrotman: Okay Okay |
| 23:54.42 | Brujah | cureless: Will ask there what to do! |
| 23:54.56 | cureless | Brujah: good luck |
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| 23:59.56 | madd_matt | Does anybody know anything about power supplies? I have this PSU that has a funny thick black cable running out of it. it has 5 wires -- two are connected directly to the AC incoming plug, one ground, and the other two connect to stuff inside the PSU. I haven't seen this before, or i've just forgotten. Its a rather old PSU. |
