| 00:00.10 | beardy | Vasistha: Well, not X ones atleast. |
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| 00:00.30 | Vasistha | beardy: I knew I should have clarified my statement :P |
| 00:00.31 | Ronin | Vasistha: wroks just fine on my 174 day old machine |
| 00:00.33 | Award | Vasistha: Well I used to use unstable, but sadly it decided to go ballistic when some packages weren't updated to stable...it refused to upgrade straight through to unstable. |
| 00:00.48 | Award | Vasistha: And frankly, full dist-upgrades on unstalbe never work out well for me :) |
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| 00:01.05 | Vasistha | Award: tried testing? |
| 00:01.09 | Award | Vasistha: Not to mention the slowness of doing it via dialup :) |
| 00:01.16 | Infal | !ppoe |
| 00:01.19 | Infal | !pppoe |
| 00:01.19 | dpkg | i guess pppoe is ppp over ethernet, apt-get install pppoe pppoeconf and read /usr/share/doc/pppoe/README.Debian This is rp-pppoe, but with the scripts rewritten. For PPPOE support in 2.4 kernels enable EXPERIMENTAL Features and go to Network Device Support |
| 00:01.28 | beardy | Infal: /msg dpkg pppoe |
| 00:01.33 | Vasistha | Award: yeah, you know, you should really check backports.org -- I think abrotman gave a link for it |
| 00:01.40 | Infal | ? |
| 00:01.47 | beardy | !msgdpkg |
| 00:01.48 | dpkg | "/msg" is a command in most IRC clients to send a private message (PM) to a user. dpkg is a bot, who responds to certain keywords with information. If somebody tells you to "/msg dpkg something", type that into your IRC client and dpkg will tell you something in private to keep clutter off the main channel. Make sure you don't leave a space between the start of the line and the "/msg". |
| 00:01.59 | beardy | !botmsg |
| 00:01.59 | dpkg | talk to me in /msg unless there is a reason to do it in the channel |
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| 00:02.21 | Vasistha | aargh! |
| 00:02.23 | beardy | !botsnack |
| 00:02.23 | dpkg | beardy: aw, gee |
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| 00:03.52 | stew | beardy: so you thought the one factoid he requested was annoying so you told home to /msg then requested 3 more? |
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| 00:04.03 | beardy | stew: lastlog him |
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| 00:04.31 | Vasistha | alright, I'd like to get these two boxes talking -- they're connected via a simple hub, but ifconfig doesn't show either one having an IP address on the eth0 port. One of them is connected via wireless lan, and the other is not ... |
| 00:04.32 | stew | yeah? |
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| 00:04.58 | opnsrc | What's artsd, do I need it, and if not how do I get rid of it |
| 00:05.02 | opnsrc | it takes up all my CPU |
| 00:05.16 | abrotman | !arts |
| 00:05.16 | dpkg | i guess arts is the multimedia framework of KDE, or teh sux, or see "esound". Arts Ruins Teh Sound |
| 00:05.16 | beardy | stew: He wanted to know how to install knoppix, then how to use pppoe, which I told him, now when he forgot, I thought he could ask him privately again instead. |
| 00:05.33 | Infal | i just setup debian |
| 00:05.42 | Infal | how can i change language |
| 00:05.46 | Infal | on keys ! |
| 00:05.50 | azeem | Infal: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:05.52 | stew | Infal: apt-get install locales |
| 00:05.59 | abrotman | !tell Infal about keymap |
| 00:06.03 | Infal | but if i am in loginpage |
| 00:06.10 | godmachine81 | ugh |
| 00:06.15 | godmachine81 | this is driving me crazy |
| 00:06.27 | Infal | =) |
| 00:06.28 | godmachine81 | can someone help me fix this repo ? |
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| 00:07.41 | abrotman | url? |
| 00:07.51 | godmachine81 | i cant get that deb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable source to work |
| 00:07.52 | Infal | hmm |
| 00:08.03 | Infal | abrotman |
| 00:08.09 | abrotman | !tell godmachine81 about dr17 |
| 00:08.16 | Infal | if i am in loginpage |
| 00:08.24 | godmachine81 | the actual place to the packages is http://soulmachine.net/debian/unstable |
| 00:08.38 | stew | Infal: login, then "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" |
| 00:08.40 | Award | abrotman: Thanks for the backports link. I didn't know of it before. How does it work, do I use just the .debs the same way I would use the stock .debs? (and is nvidia-kernel-common still ok with the old version? (I don't see a backport) |
| 00:08.54 | abrotman | Award: there are instructions there .. |
| 00:08.57 | Infal | stew |
| 00:09.04 | abrotman | elive! |
| 00:09.15 | Infal | but if i cant login without changing keymap ? |
| 00:09.18 | godmachine81 | the dr17 debs wont fulfill the dependencies in sarge without having the proper repo though :( |
| 00:09.22 | godmachine81 | and i need this repo to work |
| 00:09.23 | Infal | so what to do ? |
| 00:09.42 | stew | Infal: this is debian or knoppix? |
| 00:09.45 | abrotman | godmachine81: no .. you don't ... it's e17 .. |
| 00:09.59 | Award | abrotman: Ahh, I didn't realize it had an actual main page, thought it was just a file archive. |
| 00:10.09 | Infal | debian now |
| 00:10.12 | Infal | =) |
| 00:10.14 | abrotman | Award: no .. there's a decent set of instructions there |
| 00:10.21 | Azar | Infal did you installed with gnome? |
| 00:10.28 | Infal | nope |
| 00:10.31 | Infal | kde |
| 00:10.32 | abrotman | or rather .. did it have a GUI installer ? |
| 00:10.34 | stew | Infal: you don't need to change the keymap to login as root |
| 00:10.39 | godmachine81 | abrotman, i know its e17 and dr17 its all the same |
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| 00:10.44 | Infal | omg |
| 00:10.51 | Infal | i cant write down root |
| 00:10.55 | Infal | as login |
| 00:10.55 | godmachine81 | but the problem i have is dependency issues when trying to install |
| 00:10.55 | Azar | Infal so you do not get a CLI at bootup, but a GUI instead? |
| 00:11.03 | godmachine81 | and the repo that has the e17 debs isnt working right |
| 00:11.06 | elliptic | how can I extract one line in a file for example the third |
| 00:11.11 | abrotman | godmachine81: did you read what dpkg told you ? |
| 00:11.18 | godmachine81 | and i cant figure out why its not working ive tried everything it says something about stat no such file or directory |
| 00:11.20 | godmachine81 | yes i did |
| 00:11.22 | abrotman | elliptic: man head .. man tail |
| 00:11.29 | elliptic | abrotman: ok |
| 00:11.29 | stew | Infal: why can't you login as root? |
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| 00:11.51 | Azar | stew, he cannot use the keyboard |
| 00:12.00 | stew | Azar: how did he set the root password then? |
| 00:12.08 | polishkoop | Is it possible to install nvidia drivers on debian etch? |
| 00:12.24 | Azar | stew, I would guess at installation time, he did not pick the right locales |
| 00:12.39 | beardy | Azar: No locales are picked there, only keymap. |
| 00:12.43 | Infal | stew because i cant write down login root ! |
| 00:13.03 | opnsrc | ok, well apparently I can kill artsd without any problems |
| 00:13.06 | stew | but i don't know how he got kde installed with a non-working keymap |
| 00:13.07 | opnsrc | sound and video work, etc... |
| 00:13.12 | stew | Infal: can you hit "ctrl-alt-f2" to get to a text console? |
| 00:13.13 | opnsrc | How do I disable it? |
| 00:13.14 | Azar | Infal, people are asking you how did you go through installation - typing answers to installer |
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| 00:13.33 | Infal | =) |
| 00:13.40 | Infal | there it was english |
| 00:13.43 | beardy | Azar: or, hmm, perhaps they are, but not until base-config or what they call it now is done, I think. |
| 00:13.46 | Infal | now it is in my lang |
| 00:13.54 | Infal | ok i will try to do smth |
| 00:14.17 | Azar | installers change so much from one release to another.. |
| 00:14.25 | abrotman | wait .. |
| 00:14.28 | abrotman | he has a GUI login? |
| 00:14.34 | Infal | ? |
| 00:15.05 | godmachine81 | abrotman, whats this here mean when i have my sources.list as specified by the site: Failed to fetch http://soulmachine.net/dists/debian/unstable/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| 00:15.11 | beardy | Infal: Do you have a grpahical login prompt, that means, is there a background image, and possibly a mouse pointer? And colors? |
| 00:15.17 | Azar | abrotman: he said kde, I would guess so |
| 00:15.21 | Infal | yes |
| 00:15.22 | Infal | =) |
| 00:15.30 | Infal | and a debian sign in bg |
| 00:15.38 | Infal | i have graphical all |
| 00:15.39 | godmachine81 | i know the dists/debian/unstabable blah blah is being put in wrong but how do i fix it to where it gets it from the right place |
| 00:15.49 | abrotman | OK .. BIG HINT .. how the fuck did he login to install KDE ? |
| 00:15.53 | abrotman | right .. see |
| 00:16.00 | abrotman | not running debian ... or a total moron |
| 00:16.01 | godmachine81 | the line in sources.list looks like deb http://soulmachine.net/ debian unstable |
| 00:16.12 | beardy | abrotman: tasksel and such .. things. |
| 00:16.12 | abrotman | godmachine81: i'm gonna smack you |
| 00:16.19 | godmachine81 | what |
| 00:16.21 | beardy | abrotman: or your other suggestions |
| 00:16.24 | Azar | maybe a debian surogate |
| 00:16.26 | abrotman | beardy: so he can't type root ? but everything else works? |
| 00:16.36 | Infal | omg |
| 00:16.36 | godmachine81 | i dont get what your saying is pathetic |
| 00:16.42 | abrotman | godmachine81: deb http://soulmachine.net/ unstable |
| 00:16.45 | Infal | i have russian keymap in loginpage |
| 00:16.58 | godmachine81 | abrotman, i tried that.. i dont mean to sound dumb but debian is makin me look dumb |
| 00:16.59 | Infal | when i instaled debian it was all english |
| 00:17.05 | Infal | i set up rus a s default lang |
| 00:17.09 | godmachine81 | i tried that and it says malformed line (dist-parse) |
| 00:17.15 | abrotman | godmachine81: paste your sources in #flood |
| 00:17.16 | Infal | and now i have this fuckn problem understand ? |
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| 00:17.38 | beardy | Infal: No, we don't quite understand, please tell me again what exactly the problem is? |
| 00:17.56 | Infal | i have russian language as default |
| 00:17.57 | beardy | Infal: Do you want to get messages and prompts in your local language? |
| 00:18.02 | abrotman | are the arrow keys the same for every keymap ? |
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| 00:18.05 | godmachine81 | abrotman, if i paste them in #flood are you going to help me? |
| 00:18.08 | Infal | my login and pass is in latin |
| 00:18.08 | godmachine81 | or make me look like a fool |
| 00:18.13 | abrotman | godmachine81: paste them .. or i'll smack you again :) |
| 00:18.19 | Infal | i cant write down my pass ! |
| 00:18.26 | Infal | becuase i cant swich lang ! |
| 00:18.32 | Azar | Infal, translate it in russian :) |
| 00:18.35 | abrotman | godmachine81: you pasting? |
| 00:18.43 | Infal | ? |
| 00:18.53 | Infal | Azar what do you mean ? |
| 00:18.58 | beardy | Infal: You see, locales, that means, in what language messages and error messages are in, and your keybords keymap, is not the same thing. |
| 00:19.04 | Azar | Infal instead of "root" type it in russian |
| 00:19.16 | Infal | so ? |
| 00:19.16 | azeem | Azar: huh? |
| 00:19.17 | beardy | Infal: Do as I say: Ctrl-Alt-F1 |
| 00:19.21 | stew | Infal: hit "ctrl-alt-f1" to get to a text prompt |
| 00:19.26 | Infal | ok |
| 00:19.29 | Infal | and then ? |
| 00:19.30 | Azar | azeem, just trying.. maybe works |
| 00:19.41 | Infal | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 00:19.45 | beardy | Infal: Then type root, hit enter, then type the password. |
| 00:19.46 | azeem | Azar: do you really think so? |
| 00:20.04 | Infal | and then reconfigure lang ? |
| 00:20.10 | thingfish | I doubt that there's any russian translation for apt-get foo, or in any language for that matter. |
| 00:20.10 | stew | Infal: login as root, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and select a different language |
| 00:20.22 | Infal | ok |
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| 00:20.24 | beardy | Infal: Now, how do you want it? Do you want russian as the language? |
| 00:20.28 | Infal | thx |
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| 00:21.11 | beardy | stew: There are locale/language-questions in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 now? |
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| 00:21.35 | stew | beardy: its asked you about kbmap as long as i can remember |
| 00:21.43 | Azar | Infal I'd keep the english language for system, and only use russian with the browser. |
| 00:22.02 | beardy | stew: Yes, that it does. |
| 00:22.13 | Infal | ok |
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| 00:22.21 | Infal | now i will try it ot |
| 00:22.22 | Infal | see ya |
| 00:22.23 | Infal | =) |
| 00:23.43 | magyar | can anyone explain how ez-ipupdate works? |
| 00:23.45 | hesco_ | I'm installing on a Toshiba Satellite Pro M-40 CZ1 and picking my way through the boot parameters. Right now its stuck on the cd-rom drives. Anyone here have any clues what the hardware inside these things is and how you can talk sweet to it, so it will let you install? |
| 00:24.00 | benjamindees | okay, so if I have something like 'BLAH=blah; $(MAKE)' in a debian/rules file should that make the BLAH variable available to make? |
| 00:24.41 | benjamindees | oops that should be 'export BLAH=blah; $(MAKE)' |
| 00:24.57 | abrotman | godmachine81: have you tried deb http://soulmachine.net/debian/unstable ? |
| 00:25.18 | abrotman | Vasistha: give them both static IPs |
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| 00:26.31 | Vasistha | abrotman: well, I've started with one computer, which is booted with Timo's rescue cd (based on sarge) ... but on ifup eth0 it tells me, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy |
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| 00:26.45 | abrotman | Vasistha: so maybe it's already up? |
| 00:26.57 | Vasistha | abrotman: ifconfig doesn't list it |
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| 00:27.13 | abrotman | ifconfig -a ? |
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| 00:27.25 | Vasistha | abrotman: ooh, look at that... |
| 00:27.44 | godmachine81 | abrotman, that didnt work |
| 00:27.49 | godmachine81 | i got a source that actually works |
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| 00:27.51 | marix | i have a problem with my tvcard in etch, http://marix.dk/tv-hvad could somebody help me? |
| 00:27.54 | abrotman | Piggy: squeal! |
| 00:27.58 | abrotman | godmachine81: what is it ? |
| 00:28.01 | godmachine81 | deb http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ unstable main |
| 00:28.08 | abrotman | i pointed you at that |
| 00:28.17 | godmachine81 | but now im having another problem |
| 00:28.23 | godmachine81 | god damnit |
| 00:28.38 | abrotman | because you're using unstable packages on stable ? |
| 00:28.48 | abrotman | gefech... has stable packages too |
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| 00:29.29 | godmachine81 | check that out on #flood |
| 00:29.37 | abrotman | you're using unstable packages on stable |
| 00:29.38 | Riccc`plula | Hia , is there a quick way to change ownership of all files owned by A to B, in a folder in which there is multi-owner files (chown B * doesnt work, because change all ownership) ? |
| 00:30.02 | Vasistha | abrotman: alright, they both have eth0 configured statically, but neither responds to a ping |
| 00:30.07 | abrotman | Riccc`plula: maybe some magic with find or ls and grep ? |
| 00:30.34 | abrotman | Vasistha: eh .. do you know anything about networking ? |
| 00:30.35 | beardy | Riccc`plula: How many different owners? |
| 00:30.43 | Vasistha | abrotman: I guess not :-) |
| 00:30.50 | Riccc`plula | 3, but searching a "general approach" |
| 00:30.55 | abrotman | Vasistha: you probably want them on a different subnet to start |
| 00:30.57 | Vasistha | Riccc`plula: man find and look for files by user name |
| 00:31.08 | Riccc`plula | ^^ thanks Vasistha |
| 00:31.12 | abrotman | godmachine81: have you tried using the stable packages instead of unstable? |
| 00:31.19 | godmachine81 | yes i just did |
| 00:31.24 | abrotman | and? |
| 00:31.25 | godmachine81 | still get that obsoleted package thing |
| 00:31.35 | godmachine81 | same error message on stable as with unstable |
| 00:31.43 | beardy | Riccc`plula: Well, is it generally found, a directory with files of many different ownerships? |
| 00:32.02 | Siriuskr | Hey i downloaded the Never Winter Nights Client for linux installed and updated it, i got fglrx drive with a ATI x800 and cedega Video and sound test pass so the 3d accel is working, but in NWN game play is jumpy like video is lagging ? any suggestions ? |
| 00:32.16 | abrotman | Siriuskr: ask #cedega ? |
| 00:32.23 | Siriuskr | abrotman its not a cedega game |
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| 00:32.35 | Vasistha | abrotman: would you be at all interested in ifconfig -a for both machines, or /etc/network/interfaces, or anything else? Also, is subnet something I can set in /etc/network/interfaces , and can I direct a ping to go through a specific subnet? |
| 00:32.37 | Siriuskr | plus other games do the same thing |
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| 00:32.40 | abrotman | wtf is cedega sound/video test ? |
| 00:32.49 | abrotman | Siriuskr: do you actually have DRI working? |
| 00:32.54 | Riccc`plula | beardy: yes, to resume, I have a folder with around 40 files, with 3 users , I want to change ownership of one of this user to another one , but wisht to avoid to chown them 1 by 1 |
| 00:32.54 | Siriuskr | abrotman: DRI ? |
| 00:33.00 | abrotman | !dri |
| 00:33.00 | dpkg | well, dri is Direct Rendering Infrastructure, included in X. see http://dri.sourceforge.net or #dri, or read the outut of LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo if your X log looks ok |
| 00:33.05 | abrotman | !tell Siriuskr about ati |
| 00:33.10 | godmachine81 | abrotman, what do u think i should do now? |
| 00:33.24 | abrotman | godmachine81: never ever try to use e17 again |
| 00:33.27 | Siriuskr | abrotman: the cedega video test does something similer to GLX gears and everything passes |
| 00:33.37 | Riccc`plula | beardy: and searching a general approach to do such job... (learning... learning :p ) |
| 00:33.37 | Siriuskr | glxgears command doesnt work tho |
| 00:33.42 | abrotman | godmachine81: apt-cache search enlightenment |
| 00:34.00 | Siriuskr | abrotman never mind glxgears works in su |
| 00:34.05 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:34.19 | Siriuskr | abrotman: The gears look kinda glitchy like my game ??? |
| 00:34.31 | abrotman | Siriuskr: and how many FPS ? |
| 00:34.32 | Vasistha | Riccc`plula: find -user johndoe -print0 | xargs -0 chown janedoe |
| 00:34.38 | beardy | Riccc`plula: Yes, I'm not questioning you wanting to do it in the best way possible, but, do you encounter such directories a lot, what kind of files is that, I wonder? |
| 00:34.40 | Siriuskr | abrotman its not outputing FPS |
| 00:34.50 | Riccc`plula | Vasistha : uber thanks... |
| 00:34.51 | Vasistha | Riccc`plula: you can also pass a flag -maxdepth 1 to prevent going into subdirs |
| 00:35.13 | abrotman | Siriuskr: oh .. Xorg7 |
| 00:35.26 | Riccc`plula | oh beardy: no no not a lot, just a learning background for myself |
| 00:35.43 | Siriuskr | abrotman yea i think i got x 7.0.0 |
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| 00:35.54 | Siriuskr | abrotman is there a way to still have it output fps ? |
| 00:36.08 | abrotman | Siriuskr: eh .. not sure |
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| 00:36.34 | godmachine81 | hmm |
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| 00:36.42 | abrotman | gravity: is there a way to make glxgears output FPS ? |
| 00:37.18 | godmachine81 | now its saying that enlightenment and enlightenment arent on the repo when they are, and in synaptic it shows the debian version of enlightenment instead of the one on the repo. thats after i removed the /etc/apt/preferences that i had |
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| 00:37.30 | abrotman | godmachine81: apt-cache policy enlightenment |
| 00:37.40 | happy000 | how do I install a samba client to acess my companys windows file server? |
| 00:37.56 | abrotman | smbclient |
| 00:37.57 | Vasistha | happy search p.d.o for samba ... |
| 00:38.04 | Vasistha | yeah, smbclient, that's it |
| 00:38.04 | beardy | Riccc`plula: Ok. Try what Vasistha said, if it does what you want, you can make an alias of it, or a script, if you should encounter more such directories. |
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| 00:38.10 | godmachine81 | k check out #flood abrotman |
| 00:38.17 | gravity | abrotman: Yeah... it's some crazy switch I forget |
| 00:38.27 | abrotman | gravity: there's no man page .. i'm filing a damn bug! |
| 00:38.37 | gravity | abrotman: That one's already filed |
| 00:38.37 | Riccc`plula | beardy: Vasistha: works fine , thanks for this lesson :p |
| 00:38.38 | abrotman | `man 7 undocumented` is no damn help |
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| 00:38.43 | abrotman | gravity: i figured :) |
| 00:39.13 | Vasistha | Riccc`plula: you're welcome... 'find' is your friend ;-) |
| 00:39.23 | gravity | abrotman: "-iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" |
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| 00:39.26 | gravity | "seriously |
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| 00:39.33 | abrotman | glxgears -printfps ? |
| 00:39.35 | stew | !glxgears |
| 00:39.35 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, glxgears is an opengl demo. it is not a good benchmark, in fact in recent versions of glxgears you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark flag in order to get it to report fps information. now located in the mesa-utils package. |
| 00:39.40 | godmachine81 | what ya think abrotman |
| 00:39.44 | stew | abrotman: yeah they do the same |
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| 00:39.58 | abrotman | godmachine81: e17 is not worth it :) |
| 00:40.04 | godmachine81 | nah seriously |
| 00:40.07 | stew | abrotman: what about elive? |
| 00:40.11 | abrotman | Siriuskr: glxgears -printfps |
| 00:40.19 | Siriuskr | abrotman that works |
| 00:40.26 | abrotman | stew: oh .. yeah .. we should use that! |
| 00:40.27 | godmachine81 | i dont want to use elive i want to use e on my debian box |
| 00:40.35 | Siriuskr | abrotman: 25391 frames in 5.1 seconds = 4983.382 FPS |
| 00:40.38 | godmachine81 | and its done made me look retarded and get bitch smacked a couple times |
| 00:40.41 | godmachine81 | so im not gonna quit now |
| 00:40.55 | abrotman | godmachine81: moment |
| 00:41.07 | Vasistha | Siriuskr: wow, that's a lot of fps! quite a benchmark! |
| 00:41.12 | godmachine81 | abrotman, what about that apt-cache policy i did |
| 00:41.24 | abrotman | hold up a sec |
| 00:42.24 | abrotman | godmachine81: apt-cache policy eclair |
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| 00:43.09 | godmachine81 | unable to locate package |
| 00:43.13 | brentwood-ca | ok |
| 00:43.23 | brentwood-ca | how do i access the windows file server form debian? |
| 00:43.27 | ricochet | how do I install sarge on a machine that has a SATA-II controller? |
| 00:43.27 | brentwood-ca | smabaclient? |
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| 00:44.17 | Siriuskr | abrotman: When i do modprobe dri, it says module dri not found ? |
| 00:44.33 | abrotman | godmachine81: did you run apt-get update ? |
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| 00:44.49 | abrotman | brentwood-ca: smbclient |
| 00:45.33 | brentwood-ca | ok |
| 00:45.36 | brentwood-ca | I have that installed |
| 00:45.38 | brentwood-ca | now |
| 00:45.46 | brentwood-ca | how do I launch it and or what config is neeed |
| 00:45.54 | godmachine81 | abrotman, yea now im getting an unmet dependency problem and it says the packages arent installable |
| 00:45.56 | godmachine81 | geesh |
| 00:46.10 | abrotman | duh |
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| 00:46.32 | abrotman | godmachine81: paste the error |
| 00:47.19 | ricochet | abrotman: do you know about SATA-II? I'm trying to install debian on a machine that has it but it says the modules don't exist |
| 00:47.21 | godmachine81 | ok |
| 00:47.23 | godmachine81 | hang on abrotman |
| 00:47.31 | abrotman | ricochet: the drive matters not .. it's the controller |
| 00:48.03 | ricochet | abrotman: so... its a SATA-II controller right? |
| 00:48.20 | abrotman | ricochet: dunno .. it's your controller :) |
| 00:48.32 | abrotman | ricochet: what is it ? |
| 00:48.36 | ricochet | abrotman: I think its a marvell. |
| 00:48.40 | abrotman | godmachine81: output from `apt-get install libe` |
| 00:48.53 | abrotman | ricochet: you might need an unofficial installer |
| 00:49.14 | ricochet | abrotman: where would I find that? |
| 00:49.20 | abrotman | dpkg: thank johnny appleseed |
| 00:49.20 | dpkg | no problem, abrotman |
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| 00:49.46 | abrotman | ricochet: where did you get the machine? |
| 00:49.49 | godmachine81 | there it is abrotman |
| 00:49.54 | godmachine81 | check flood |
| 00:49.58 | abrotman | godmachine81: did you run apt-get update ? |
| 00:50.04 | ricochet | abrotman: its a Dell optiplex GX620 |
| 00:50.04 | godmachine81 | of course |
| 00:50.11 | abrotman | ricochet: i'm sorry |
| 00:50.23 | ricochet | abrotman: ? |
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| 00:50.41 | abrotman | !tell ricochet about sarge 2.6.15 |
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| 00:51.33 | ricochet | abrotman: why sorry? |
| 00:51.57 | abrotman | ricochet: it's a DELL! |
| 00:52.01 | godmachine81 | abrotman, do you know any repos of backports i might need to add |
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| 00:52.18 | abrotman | godmachine81: where's Gnea when you need him? |
| 00:52.22 | ricochet | abrotman: can't control the hardware work gives me. |
| 00:52.22 | godmachine81 | cuz this is making absolutely no fucking sense |
| 00:52.33 | Gnea | huh? |
| 00:52.45 | abrotman | Gnea: god damn it .. how the fuck do you get e17 on sarge? |
| 00:52.46 | Gnea | abrotman: about to go to class |
| 00:52.52 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 00:52.52 | Gnea | very carefully |
| 00:52.54 | Gnea | !dr17 |
| 00:52.55 | dpkg | [DR17 debs] http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/, or debs for dr17 under unstable are available at http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ |
| 00:52.58 | abrotman | no workie! |
| 00:53.04 | abrotman | been down that road |
| 00:53.05 | godmachine81 | oh trust me we been through that |
| 00:53.08 | godmachine81 | the repos |
| 00:53.10 | Gnea | !backports |
| 00:53.11 | dpkg | it has been said that backports is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 00:53.13 | abrotman | though .. godmachine81 insisted on using unstable sources on his sarge box |
| 00:53.20 | Gnea | i don't know, i just compile everything from source |
| 00:53.25 | Gnea | plus i use it on sid |
| 00:53.34 | Gnea | godmachine81: you are an idiot. |
| 00:53.40 | abrotman | godmachine81: there you have it .. Gnea says e17 sucks .. don't use it |
| 00:53.46 | Gnea | and i am going to class, i have a final exam. good luck. |
| 00:53.49 | godmachine81 | Gnea, i didnt use no unstable stuff on my sarge box |
| 00:53.51 | abrotman | Gnea: good luck! |
| 00:53.54 | abrotman | godmachine81: BULLSHIT |
| 00:54.02 | godmachine81 | i was using the unstable branch of the e repos |
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| 00:54.12 | godmachine81 | bc thats all i could find up til a few minutes ago |
| 00:54.13 | abrotman | godmachine81: wtf do you think that means? |
| 00:54.23 | godmachine81 | i know what the fuck it means |
| 00:54.33 | godmachine81 | but the packages are the same things that im wanting to install |
| 00:54.48 | ricochet | abrotman: could I install unstable? |
| 00:54.48 | abrotman | YEAH .. compiled for Debian/unstable |
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| 00:54.57 | godmachine81 | ok ok abrotman |
| 00:55.02 | godmachine81 | i never got them installed anyway |
| 00:55.08 | abrotman | ricochet: there's no unstable installer .. just stable and the etch beta installer |
| 00:55.08 | godmachine81 | so wooptie |
| 00:55.24 | Siriuskr | Is there a way to check and see if DRI is working ? |
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| 00:55.44 | godmachine81 | Gnea, how did you resolve the dependency issues with e17? |
| 00:55.45 | abrotman | Siriuskr: ask #ati how to check |
| 00:55.48 | amphi | Siriuskr: xdriinfo |
| 00:55.48 | ricochet | abrotman: ok. thanks for your help. |
| 00:55.52 | godmachine81 | or did you not have any using sid? |
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| 00:56.16 | Siriuskr | amphi: that out puts Screen 0: fglrx ? |
| 00:56.31 | abrotman | godmachine81: comment out the source line from your sources |
| 00:56.34 | amphi | Siriuskr: try glxinfo |
| 00:56.50 | Siriuskr | amphi: That has a tonnn of stuff in it |
| 00:56.56 | Vasistha | So, I'll ask again... is subnet something I can set in /etc/network/interfaces , and can I direct a ping to go through a specific subnet? |
| 00:57.16 | Vasistha | right now one machine is reporting ping: sendto: Network is unreachable :P |
| 00:57.22 | Siriuskr | amphi: In there tho it does disply direct rendering: Yes |
| 00:57.33 | godmachine81 | abrotman, what source line are you talking about? |
| 00:57.42 | abrotman | the one for e17 |
| 00:57.45 | amphi | Siriuskr: there ya go |
| 00:57.48 | godmachine81 | why would i comment it out? |
| 00:57.50 | abrotman | Vasistha: yes |
| 00:57.52 | Siriuskr | amphi: But the problem is when i run glxgears or nwn or some other games its glitchy |
| 00:57.54 | abrotman | godmachine81: or not ... |
| 00:58.03 | amphi | Siriuskr: glitchy? |
| 00:58.05 | godmachine81 | if i uncomment it its not going to install it |
| 00:58.14 | abrotman | paste your sources again in #flood |
| 00:58.15 | godmachine81 | im just gonna dist-upgrade to etch |
| 00:58.15 | Siriuskr | amphi: Looks like im having video lag |
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| 00:58.22 | godmachine81 | see what issues that gives |
| 00:58.28 | Vasistha | abrotman: should both machines be on the same subnet, and should it be different from the subnet of the wireless network? |
| 00:58.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:58.40 | amphi | Siriuskr: dunno, my card is supported by the xorg driver |
| 00:59.09 | NaufraGo | if I want to have debian 3.1-r2, do I have to burn the image to install it? or can I install it (upgrade my 3.1-r1) by here? |
| 00:59.17 | NaufraGo | apt-get maybe? |
| 00:59.18 | dbe | how insecure can it be to stream internet radio from di.fm compared to stream from an own server? |
| 00:59.39 | Siriuskr | What version of xorg is Sid running ? |
| 00:59.40 | beardy | NaufraGo: Yes, or aptitude. |
| 00:59.52 | beardy | !debian mantra |
| 00:59.52 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mantra is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" or "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" |
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| 01:00.59 | beardy | Siriuskr: You can find that out yourself. |
| 01:01.00 | abrotman | godmachine81: where'd they go ? |
| 01:01.11 | NaufraGo | thn that command is to upgrade my whole debian version to 3.1-r2? |
| 01:01.14 | godmachine81 | where'd who go? |
| 01:01.22 | godmachine81 | damnit to hell |
| 01:01.24 | godmachine81 | this fuckin sux |
| 01:01.28 | Vasistha | abrotman: oh, ah, so if my wireless addy is 192.168.1.100 I should make the wired addresses in the 192.168.0.* subnet ... (right?) |
| 01:01.39 | godmachine81 | where are all these dependecy problems suppose to be resolved at? |
| 01:01.40 | stew | NaufraGo: do you have a security.debian.org line in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 01:01.48 | godmachine81 | they arent even on the debian repos or the repo for e |
| 01:01.49 | abrotman | Vasistha: 255.255.255.0 |
| 01:01.52 | stew | NaufraGo: actually can you just paste your sources.list to a pastebin? /msg dpkg paster |
| 01:02.05 | Vasistha | abrotman: yeah, I think they both have that mask |
| 01:02.18 | beardy | NaufraGo: Yes, the packages that has been security-upgraded will be installed, and your installation will become 3.1-r2, but answe stew first. |
| 01:02.45 | NaufraGo | don't have that line.. |
| 01:03.32 | stew | NaufraGo: /msg dpkg security |
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| 01:03.59 | abrotman | afaict .. there seem to only be e17 packages for sid |
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| 01:04.28 | godmachine81 | abrotman, well im going to uprade to sid just b/c this has pissed me off |
| 01:04.34 | abrotman | good plan |
| 01:04.35 | godmachine81 | and then im going to see what the problem will be |
| 01:04.37 | abrotman | i'm sure that will go well :) |
| 01:04.40 | NaufraGo | sorry. I do have that line. I didn't see it ¬¬ |
| 01:04.40 | stew | godmachine81: why not backport? |
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| 01:04.50 | Arafangion | abrotman: Sometimes, I feel that e17 will only be released by Raster when Sid becomes stable. |
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| 01:06.50 | godmachine81 | jesus |
| 01:06.55 | Arafangion | Man, upgrading to Etch is not trivial :) |
| 01:06.55 | beardy | NaufraGo: You don't have to do exactly as dpkg said, you can do 'aptitude update' first, and then, when you have seen what that did, you can run 'aptitude upgrade', and again, watch what it does, if you don't want to run the commands right after each other without a pause to think about how it works, if you like to do that. |
| 01:07.07 | godmachine81 | what are all these libe and libecore and libblahblah bullshit that says its not installable |
| 01:07.23 | godmachine81 | stew, backports arent gonna help me much here |
| 01:07.25 | simonrvn | sounds like e17 stuff |
| 01:07.33 | godmachine81 | i know its e17 stuff |
| 01:07.39 | Vasistha | abrotman: hmm, not workin' yet. Here's ifconfig -a for both machines: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2827 |
| 01:07.40 | abrotman | it is e17 stuff |
| 01:07.41 | godmachine81 | but where the hell is it suppose to come from |
| 01:07.44 | Arafangion | godmachine81: If 'a' depends on 'b', but for some reason, 'b' can't be installed or is not available, then naturally, by definition, 'a' is not installable either. |
| 01:07.50 | NaufraGo | it's clear |
| 01:07.57 | godmachine81 | Arafangion, i know that much |
| 01:08.11 | Arafangion | godmachine81: And I always had better luck compiling e17's CVS than any other method. |
| 01:08.14 | brentwood-ca | ok |
| 01:08.16 | godmachine81 | but there is a debian repo for e17 but the files arent in that repo nor in the debian repos |
| 01:08.20 | brentwood-ca | I got smb client working somehow |
| 01:08.35 | brentwood-ca | but I want a graphic smb browser like windows exploere ? |
| 01:08.39 | Vasistha | abrotman: ...I'm suspicious of the "new machine" having "Broadcast Multicast" instead of "Up Broadcast Running Multicast" |
| 01:08.41 | brentwood-ca | any ideas? |
| 01:08.41 | godmachine81 | Arafangion, does it compile all the dependencies you need on the cvs too? |
| 01:08.47 | lunaphyte | why is apt-get dist-upgrade insisting on removing asterisk? |
| 01:08.49 | beardy | NaufraGo: When you are done, 'cat /etc/debian_version', should contain the new version. |
| 01:08.55 | Vasistha | brentwood-ca: kde integrates that nicely into konqueror |
| 01:09.11 | abrotman | Vasistha: route add -net 192.168.0.255 gw 192.168.0.44 .. or something like that |
| 01:09.41 | stew | beardy: wait, what version do you think he's running now? |
| 01:09.43 | godmachine81 | i would find the deb packages to these libe stuff on the net but im afraid ill have the same fucking dep hell with them |
| 01:09.58 | beardy | stew: 3.1-r1, or r0 |
| 01:10.03 | abrotman | Vasistha: roughly .. you have to tell your old machine that in order to get to 192.168.0.* .. you want it to use eth0 |
| 01:10.10 | Arafangion | godmachine81: It's easier to compile than some. |
| 01:10.12 | stew | beardy: for all of those, debian_version would be "3.1" |
| 01:10.13 | Siriuskr | Does Xorg 7.1 work on Debian Etch ? |
| 01:10.19 | beardy | stew: I see. |
| 01:10.24 | Vasistha | abrotman: ahha. studying man route |
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| 01:10.31 | abrotman | lunaphyte: because you're running etch/sid ? |
| 01:10.33 | beardy | NaufraGo: what stew told me above |
| 01:11.09 | polishkoop | Is it possible to get nvidia drivers installed on debian etch, kernel 2.6? I've tried to apt-get install nvidia-glx but it doesn't work. I added sid to my sources.list but then I get a message saying it can not be installed. |
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| 01:12.20 | lunaphyte | abrotman: hmmm - sources.list says i'm tracking testing...? |
| 01:12.34 | redblades | Hey hey everyone |
| 01:12.36 | Vasistha | abrotman: hmm, the new machine is reporting that the network is down |
| 01:12.45 | abrotman | lunaphyte: that will happen from time to time |
| 01:12.48 | abrotman | Vasistha: WHY?! |
| 01:12.49 | redblades | Vasistha How are you? |
| 01:13.30 | Vasistha | abrotman: SIOCADDRT: Network is down # I have no idea... |
| 01:13.39 | abrotman | Vasistha: route -n .. from both machines |
| 01:13.50 | stew | Siriuskr: 7.1 packages haven't yet been prepared for debian. it will start appearing in experimental RSN, then unstable and eventually etch |
| 01:13.57 | Henry_Bean | hello, i have downloaded a DVD from bt, it doesn't come in an ISO file, it was a VIDEO_TS folder, i drop it in nautilus and burn it, but after that i cannot play it in my pc (yes in my regular dvd player)... this is the error... http://debian-es.pastebin.com/705623 ... please anybody could take a look? |
| 01:14.08 | lunaphyte | what's with the word "off" in libmysqlclient15off ? |
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| 01:14.25 | Vasistha | redblades: well... I have a bit of a headache, and these two computers don't seem to want to connect -- although at this point it's pretty clear it's the one computer that's having issues |
| 01:14.39 | redblades | He he he |
| 01:14.42 | godmachine81 | haha |
| 01:14.46 | Vasistha | abrotman: the "new computer" (77) comes up with no entries at all. The old computer (44) looks good |
| 01:14.47 | godmachine81 | i figured it out abrotman |
| 01:14.56 | godmachine81 | u all said i was stupid b/c of the unstable thing |
| 01:15.01 | redblades | I'm doing another Debian install, with X + KDE |
| 01:15.05 | godmachine81 | well thats just how the repo is listed because its unstable e |
| 01:15.08 | godmachine81 | not unstable deb |
| 01:15.17 | abrotman | godmachine81: no .. it's for unstable ... |
| 01:15.19 | redblades | Vasistha I'm doing another Debian install, with X + KDE |
| 01:15.22 | godmachine81 | ok w/e |
| 01:15.31 | godmachine81 | check out the dir structure and contents then |
| 01:15.34 | godmachine81 | u'll see |
| 01:15.43 | abrotman | are you talking like a tard on purpose? |
| 01:15.46 | amphi | godmachine81: I think not |
| 01:15.52 | abrotman | godmachine81: did you get it installed on sarge? |
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| 01:16.03 | godmachine81 | its working |
| 01:16.06 | abrotman | on etch? |
| 01:16.09 | godmachine81 | on sarge |
| 01:16.14 | abrotman | i'm skeptical |
| 01:16.25 | abrotman | let's see the proof |
| 01:16.30 | godmachine81 | just wait and ill get everything done and come back under e |
| 01:16.35 | godmachine81 | and then ill put up a shot or something |
| 01:16.36 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 01:16.39 | stew | godmachine81: what version of libc6 do you have installed? |
| 01:16.42 | abrotman | i don't want a shot .. you can show me now |
| 01:16.43 | godmachine81 | this has been one fucked up deal |
| 01:16.57 | Arafangion | Hmm, KDE 3.5 is _nice_ :) |
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| 01:17.04 | Arafangion | Nearly as good as Gnome. |
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| 01:17.19 | amphi | godmachine81: now you can switch back to openbox ;) |
| 01:17.20 | godmachine81 | 2.3.6-7 stew |
| 01:17.29 | abrotman | godmachine81: that repo you are using lists libc6 >= 2.3.6 .. sarge doesn't have that |
| 01:17.32 | abrotman | godmachine81: i WIN! |
| 01:17.35 | stew | godmachine81: yeah, that's not sarge |
| 01:17.39 | abrotman | you're not using sarge anymore .. congratulations |
| 01:17.43 | stew | godmachine81: you have upgraded to testing/unstable |
| 01:17.58 | Vasistha | Arafangion: what's nice about it? |
| 01:18.14 | Vasistha | redblades: I'm struggling to do a debian install myself, but have not even really gotten to step 0 :-( |
| 01:18.38 | redblades | Vasistha How can you not get to step 0? |
| 01:18.44 | abrotman | Vasistha: are you trying to route computer #2 through #1 ? |
| 01:18.48 | tuvwx | i get incorrect state of the lid of my laptop in /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state. it's always closed! how can i fix it? |
| 01:18.52 | redblades | Vasistha Having CD issues? |
| 01:19.18 | Vasistha | abrotman: I'm not sure what I should be trying to do with route ... does one computer need to act as a host, or gateway, or server, and the other as a client? |
| 01:19.41 | abrotman | Vasistha: you're trying to use your old computer as kind of a router for the new one ? |
| 01:20.00 | Vasistha | abrotman: that would be good, yeah. |
| 01:20.06 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 01:20.06 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 01:20.12 | abrotman | Vasistha: all done! |
| 01:20.32 | magyar | can anyone explain how ez-ipupdate works? |
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| 01:22.05 | Vasistha | abrotman: sounds good. will this also allow the two computers to talk via apache, ssh, nfs? |
| 01:22.24 | abrotman | Vasistha: never tried |
| 01:22.29 | Siriuskr | stew: could i compile it my self tho ? |
| 01:22.32 | tuvwx | i get incorrect state of the lid of my laptop in /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state. it's always closed! how can i fix it? |
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| 01:25.38 | stew | Siriuskr: i don't see why not |
| 01:25.47 | Siriuskr | k |
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| 01:26.19 | brentwood-ca | how do I get gnome to browse a windows share? |
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| 01:26.41 | linux2 | how do i start and stop services in debian |
| 01:26.45 | linux2 | like the DM service |
| 01:26.52 | linux2 | display manager |
| 01:27.20 | copyofjohan | brentwood-ca, you know, that you can mount windows shares? |
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| 01:27.27 | copyofjohan | with samba |
| 01:28.47 | linux2 | ... |
| 01:28.53 | Vasistha | abrotman: I'm not at all sure this is what I want... my main objective here is to get the new machine to talk to the old machine. I don't care if the new machine sees the internet. I'm also concerned that firewall changes will conflict or be overwritten by guarddog |
| 01:28.56 | NaufraGo | I've upgraded my debian version.. but cat /etc/debian_version gives me just '3.1' |
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| 01:29.09 | abrotman | Vasistha: eh .. probably .. |
| 01:29.11 | _lester_ | may I ask question on packaging here? |
| 01:29.16 | abrotman | you can try :) |
| 01:29.24 | abrotman | Vasistha: you have a complicated setup! |
| 01:29.35 | Vasistha | abrotman: not really. I just have two computers connected with a hub. |
| 01:29.41 | _lester_ | copyofjohan: use sshfs with fuse. :) |
| 01:30.00 | tuvwx | linux2, /etc/init.d/<service-name> stop, or man update-rc.d |
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| 01:30.23 | linux2 | tuvwx: any shorthand for that |
| 01:30.24 | linux2 | ? |
| 01:30.25 | Vasistha | abrotman: one of them also happens to have a wireless connection to the internet, which allows me to chat in irc here... but I'd like to think of that as being somewhat independent |
| 01:30.44 | abrotman | _lester_: to a windows box ? |
| 01:31.10 | abrotman | Vasistha: set new#1's gateway to the old comp .. |
| 01:31.45 | _lester_ | abrotman: there is fusesmb. :) |
| 01:31.52 | abrotman | or smbclient ... |
| 01:32.11 | tuvwx | linux2, e.g. /etc/init.d/gdm stop is pretty short |
| 01:32.44 | tuvwx | linux2, i'm sorry, it's not update-rc.d, it's invoke-rc.d |
| 01:32.55 | Vasistha | abrotman: it's still giving me this error about network being unreachable. I'm starting to wonder if this is a problem with this livecd, or what |
| 01:33.06 | linux2 | how do i get the kernel source for my kernel? |
| 01:33.11 | _lester_ | I'd like to use the ldap public key patch for openssh at work and I'm finding a way to package it properly (for local use). What's the "debian" way to over-ride the debian version number so that my package won't be "upgraded" on next dist-upgrade? (I know about pinning but as the machine farm is co-admin'ed I'd like to do more about it). |
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| 01:33.41 | abrotman | Vasistha: if you install a dhcpd on your old ocmputer .. and tell it to only give out on eth0 .. it might just automagically work .. at least one way |
| 01:33.45 | Vasistha | _lester_: well you can pin it with apt configuration |
| 01:33.45 | tuvwx | linux2, equivelantly, invoke-rc.d gdm stop |
| 01:34.09 | Maquiavelo | hey guys, where is the file from where "Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 xxxx ttyx" welcome is? |
| 01:34.18 | linux2 | tuvwx: o im using kdm. i did /etc/init.d/kdm sto[ |
| 01:34.20 | linux2 | stop |
| 01:34.31 | abrotman | !tell _lester_ about hold |
| 01:34.37 | tuvwx | linux2, there you go |
| 01:34.41 | _lester_ | Vasistha: yes I know about pinning. but an innosece "+" in aptitude will kill it. |
| 01:34.59 | stew | Maquiavelo: /etc/issue /etc/issue.net /etc/motd |
| 01:35.03 | Vasistha | _lester_: really ... didn't realize pinning was that easy to override :-( |
| 01:35.12 | Maquiavelo | Thank you stew |
| 01:35.16 | Maquiavelo | I tried welcome, but nothing lol |
| 01:35.26 | sparr | whats a good apt-get'able program to cut a clip out of a video file? |
| 01:35.45 | abrotman | isn't there one for kde ? |
| 01:35.52 | linux2 | tuvwx: how can i get the kernel source for my kernel? |
| 01:35.59 | abrotman | kino |
| 01:36.02 | linux2 | tuvwx: and how do you search apt-get? |
| 01:36.11 | abrotman | sparr: apt-cache search edit video |
| 01:36.13 | tuvwx | linux2, apt-cache search |
| 01:36.16 | stew | linux2: what does "uname -r" say, why do you need it? usually you only need kernel-headers |
| 01:36.40 | linux2 | stew: i need it to make the nvidia kernel module |
| 01:36.54 | tuvwx | linux2, apt-cache search --names-only, to search only package names rather than names and description |
| 01:37.13 | linux2 | uname -: 2.6.15-1-486 |
| 01:37.26 | VolVE | hey all, so what's the best console-based bittorrent client right now? |
| 01:37.27 | tuvwx | linux2, use module-assistant, it will take care of the needed kernel stuff |
| 01:37.33 | stew | linux2: "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" you only need the headers |
| 01:38.05 | tuvwx | linux2, module-assistant prepare, then module-assistant auto-install nvidia |
| 01:38.48 | tuvwx | i get incorrect state of the lid of my laptop in /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state. it's always closed! how can i fix it? |
| 01:38.50 | sparr | abrotman: if only packages were even remotely keyword-savvy |
| 01:38.55 | sparr | packageRs |
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| 01:39.02 | abrotman | sparr: that's how i found it .. it wsa easy .. try it |
| 01:39.23 | abrotman | !info mpgtx |
| 01:39.28 | dpkg | mpgtx: (toolbox to manipulate MPEG files (video, system, and audio)), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (sid), Packaged size: 65 kB, Installed size: 188 kB |
| 01:39.30 | _lester_ | Vasistha: yeah that's why I'd llike to do something with the version number.. much like the --apend-to-version or --revision switch in make-kpkg. :) |
| 01:39.32 | sparr | ok, it worked this time |
| 01:39.33 | abrotman | i found that one too! |
| 01:39.56 | linux2 | why don't i need the kernel source? |
| 01:40.22 | Ferret | abrotman: I mentioned gentoo in one line a few days ago and someone did an !ops ond got me banned for about two minutes. :P At least I won't have to deal with that in the new debian cahnnel. |
| 01:40.47 | amphi | Ferret: heh |
| 01:40.59 | abrotman | Ferret: it wasn't me! .. i know better |
| 01:41.45 | Ferret | Well, the op was extremely apologetic once he read up the page. Overly so. x.x |
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| 01:42.03 | Ferret | Debian ops have gone up in my estimation over the past year or so, I can tell you. ;) |
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| 01:42.46 | abrotman | Ferret: that's because we actually have some now :) |
| 01:42.58 | liable | sometimes.. |
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| 01:43.03 | Ferret | (: |
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| 01:43.30 | NaufraGo | I've upgraded my debian version.. but cat /etc/debian_version gives me just '3.1' |
| 01:43.30 | icyfire0573 | is there a way to do an in place install of Debian over an existing linux installation? |
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| 01:43.43 | linux2 | why does debian not have colors in the terminal? |
| 01:43.48 | linux2 | like vim on this comp does |
| 01:43.51 | linux2 | but no in debian |
| 01:43.53 | liable | !deb-takeover |
| 01:43.58 | liable | !debtakeover |
| 01:43.58 | guerra | i want to use recode on some xp .reg files to run dreamweaver but dont know what are the reg files encoding...the tutorial said to use usc-2 but didnt work...anyone knows what should i do? |
| 01:43.58 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 01:44.24 | liable | linux2: edit your bashrc, its there, just commented |
| 01:44.37 | linux2 | k thanks |
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| 01:46.20 | yxa | which country is debian based in? usa or cananda? |
| 01:46.28 | linux2 | liable: how can i edit it for all users? |
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| 01:46.39 | CompWizrd | yxa: developers from all over the world work on debian |
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| 01:48.29 | mne | hi guys, please give me some hints, I'm going berserk here :P I have 2 printers, one USB and one parallel. unfortunately, the USB printer hangs on /dev/lp0 and the real parallel printer is not there at all :(( |
| 01:48.31 | liable | linux2: prolly /etc/profile i guess |
| 01:48.52 | linux2 | liable: im at a loss as to what i should add in there |
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| 01:49.13 | stew | linux2: /etc/bash.bashrc ; add: alias ls='ls --color=auto' |
| 01:49.36 | stew | linux2: for vim, edit /etc/vim/vimrc and uncomment the "syntax on" line |
| 01:49.56 | liable | linux2: the same as in your rc |
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| 01:51.00 | markinfo | How can I make completely full harddisk check? (to make some sort of "scandisk") ? |
| 01:51.02 | Ferret | also: alias grep='grep --color=auto' |
| 01:51.46 | mne | markinfo, you can check partitions. usually that does fsck (file system check) |
| 01:53.16 | markinfo | mne, but fsck is kontroling only logical structure of filesystem. I want to check it if there are any bad blocks. |
| 01:53.59 | stew | markinfo: boot into single user mode and run badblocks(8) |
| 01:54.08 | mne | markinfo, AFAIK this is exactly what fsck can do. read the fsck mangpage for details |
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| 01:55.00 | blunted | lol mangpage |
| 01:55.04 | liable | badblocks man page says it in the firt paragraph |
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| 01:55.56 | linux2 | anyone here have experience with nvidia drivers on debian? |
| 01:56.00 | Riccc`plula | After a distrib upgrade I have 'vi' running elvis, before I have vi running vim, is there anything to edit to get back to vim or should i use "rm /usr/bin/vi && ln -s /usr/bin/vim /usr/bin/vi" ? |
| 01:56.16 | lucasjb | Hiyas, a colleague of mine has run 'chown -R myuser:somegroup /var' on my Debian system. Is there a simple way to clean this up and restore correct file and directory ownership? |
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| 01:56.22 | gs | hi |
| 01:56.40 | icyfire0573 | is there a way to do an in place install of Debian over an existing linux installation? |
| 01:56.42 | gs | how to only download only one package .deb with apt? |
| 01:56.54 | gs | apt-get -d package not work |
| 01:57.41 | stew | gs: it doesn't work because it also gets dependencies? or what? |
| 01:58.32 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.32 | gs | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.35 | gs | ups |
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| 01:59.51 | gs | only need download a package.deb... with apt |
| 01:59.52 | gs | !! |
| 01:59.53 | dpkg | No sóc el teu puto indicador de csh |
| 02:00.13 | gs | someone can help me? |
| 02:00.18 | stew | gs: apt-get -d install packagename ; it will be downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 02:00.22 | lucasjb | linux2, someone probably does... |
| 02:00.30 | lucasjb | ~tell linux2 about nvidia |
| 02:00.39 | gs | stew, no if i has package more new |
| 02:01.01 | stew | gs: what do you mean exactly? |
| 02:01.13 | mne | how can I avoid that my USB printer takes over (the existing) /dev/lp0 ? Is there an udev rule or something. |
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| 02:01.52 | gs | stew, i need download package-version0.2.deb and i have installed package-versiono.3.deb |
| 02:02.12 | pipeline | mne: iirc, USB printer gets a 'usblp' name. You'll have to make a softlink or something :P |
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| 02:02.46 | pipeline | Is there anyplace I can get XFree86 pre-packaged for etch or sid? X.org is so hopelessly broken, I have no graphics on my laptop. XF86 4.3 worked fine, but it's not really practical on etch anymore. |
| 02:02.53 | stew | gs: if the package is still available in the pool, then "apt-get install -d packagename=version" ; if that doesn't work, /msg dpkg sdn |
| 02:03.11 | stew | pipeline: what is wrong with xorg? |
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| 02:04.01 | mne | pipeline, no, after upgrading all my usb devices look like /dev/usbdev1.70. My usb printer used to be /dev/usblp0, but after the last upgrade it takes over the /dev/lp0 device (which is just driving me crazy) |
| 02:04.01 | liable | pipeline: isnt it still in the etch repos? |
| 02:04.01 | stew | its not |
| 02:04.11 | pipeline | stew: Massive regressions in the i810 driver. |
| 02:04.22 | pipeline | stew: As it's been more than a year, and no fix is in progress, I'm guessing I'm fucked. |
| 02:04.30 | gs | stew, ok thank you |
| 02:05.04 | stew | pipeline: did you try the info in the Xorg69To7 page? |
| 02:05.11 | mne | pipeline, I've been using xorg on a lapton and on my desktop PC for nearly a year now, I never had any problems, though I never tried the i810 driver. (ATI on laptop, nvidia on desktop) |
| 02:05.40 | linux2 | lucasjb: i have dri turned off |
| 02:05.47 | linux2 | it is claiming it can't find the module |
| 02:06.06 | pipeline | stew: This is very simple: regressions have rendered all versions of X.org from day one utterly unusable on my laptop. |
| 02:06.20 | pipeline | stew: It's not a 6.9 to 7 issue. It's an XFree86 to X.org 6.7 and above isue. |
| 02:06.38 | pipeline | stew: I was using 4.3-dfsg for a while, but that's no longer a tenable position. |
| 02:06.49 | Coweater | then run stable |
| 02:06.51 | stew | pipeline: did you read the info on the Xorg69To7 page regarding i810? |
| 02:06.55 | abrotman | pipeline: works fine here .. mustbe you! |
| 02:07.07 | pipeline | abrotman: There are a *lot* of i810-derivative chipsets. |
| 02:07.15 | abrotman | pipeline: which do you have? |
| 02:08.04 | pipeline | abrotman: a dell with i830m |
| 02:08.09 | abrotman | ewww |
| 02:08.17 | abrotman | 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) |
| 02:08.20 | pipeline | stew: It's some rambling about DRI. DRI doesn't matter to me. The driver does not work at all. In any version of X.org. |
| 02:08.40 | abrotman | pipeline: what does the error log look like ? |
| 02:08.43 | pipeline | abrotman: It's a fairly old notebook. |
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| 02:09.13 | pipeline | abrotman: There is no error log. Hard-lock. This is a known issue, apparently. There are other regressions in the i810 driver as they integrated i915 support... |
| 02:09.30 | pipeline | abrotman: The problem isn't going to get fixed. I've come around to that. Now my options are XF86 and commercial X11 (spendy.) |
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| 02:09.32 | abrotman | pipeline: so it doesn't generate a log ? |
| 02:09.33 | liable | abrotman: slowly the bots are moving over.. :P |
| 02:09.35 | stew | pipeline: have you tried a livecd running xorg to see if they might have it working? |
| 02:09.52 | gs | one question |
| 02:10.06 | gs | i dist-upgrade ubuntu to debian sid |
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| 02:10.12 | pipeline | stew: I've tried everything under the sun. Could we stop hashing this over? |
| 02:10.13 | abrotman | gs: you can't do that |
| 02:10.20 | pipeline | abrotman: How would I know? The system hardlocks. Nothing written to disk! |
| 02:10.22 | gs | abrotman, no? |
| 02:10.26 | stew | pipeline: i'm sorry to disturb you, i thought you might want help with it |
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| 02:10.32 | abrotman | pipeline: so you have nothing resembling a /var/log/Xorg.0.log or Xorg.1.log ? |
| 02:10.32 | gs | i need it |
| 02:10.39 | pipeline | stew: Heh, I'm sorry. I've been fighting this for an extended period of time. |
| 02:10.47 | pipeline | abrotman: The system *dies*. Nothing gets written to disk. |
| 02:10.54 | abrotman | pipeline: mount sync! :) |
| 02:11.01 | pipeline | abrotman: I suppose I could dump all memory to swap and attempt to grep for a log, but that would be painful. |
| 02:11.09 | dendrite | gs: What is your question? |
| 02:11.21 | gs | abrotman, how to dist-upgrade ubunto to debian |
| 02:11.22 | gs | ;) |
| 02:11.30 | abrotman | you can't .. end of story |
| 02:11.38 | gs | ouch |
| 02:11.40 | stew | gs: that sort of thing isn't supported here |
| 02:11.50 | lunaphyte | how can i unpack a .deb file? |
| 02:11.55 | pipeline | lunaphyte: dpkg --extract-only |
| 02:11.56 | abrotman | lunaphyte: ar x |
| 02:12.00 | dendrite | gs: It's easy. Backup /home/*, get the debian netinstall CD image, burn to a CD, and install sarge. |
| 02:12.02 | stew | lunaphyte: dpkg -e or dpkg -x |
| 02:12.04 | killown | anybody know theme gtk transparent? |
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| 02:12.41 | gs | dendrite, not easy o macbook |
| 02:12.58 | dendrite | gs: Well, easy or not, it's what you'd need to do. |
| 02:12.59 | abrotman | so why not just use ubuntu ? |
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| 02:13.21 | gs | abrotman, i dont like ubuntu |
| 02:13.39 | dendrite | No arguing with that... |
| 02:13.50 | gs | more packages on debian sid |
| 02:14.01 | gs | and newest versions |
| 02:14.08 | abrotman | i thought they made universal for that? |
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| 02:14.17 | abrotman | wait .. i don't care .. it's ubuntu |
| 02:14.36 | dendrite | gs: Debian sid is for people who enjoy fixing broken things. You don't seem like that sort of person, based on your ^^ |
| 02:14.57 | gs | i used debian sid alotof years |
| 02:15.06 | gs | thank you |
| 02:15.24 | dendrite | gs: Well, install from scratch, that's your most reliable tack. |
| 02:15.39 | dendrite | gs: However, I'd love to hear how a dist-upgrade from ubuntu to sid goes! :-) |
| 02:15.39 | gs | dendrite, is one option |
| 02:15.47 | gs | thank u |
| 02:16.17 | dendrite | This channel needs a bookie... |
| 02:16.36 | Tomze | i put my money on borked |
| 02:16.47 | Ferret | !debtakeover |
| 02:16.47 | dpkg | Debian Takeover, the next phase of Debian World Domination, is a script that will substitute Debian for any running GNU/Linux distribution available at http://www.hadrons.org/~guillem/debian/debtakeover/. You too can banish metoo, dead rat, crackware, mandribble and Sue.M.E. to the bit bin. |
| 02:16.53 | Ferret | Does that work on ubuntu? |
| 02:16.56 | stew | no |
| 02:17.02 | Ferret | (if not, it needs changing) |
| 02:17.24 | stew | Ferret: it thinks ubuntu is debian and basically exits with "nothing to do" |
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| 02:17.30 | Ferret | s/any running GNU\/Linux distribution/any running non-debian-based GNU\/Linux distribution/ |
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| 02:17.48 | Ferret | (someone who knows how to use the bots might want to do that) |
| 02:17.58 | stew | although i haven't looked at it in a few years, it might have changed |
| 02:17.59 | dendrite | gs: Try hacking in debian sid repository sources? (backup /home first...) |
| 02:18.10 | Amarande | Now we just need one that automatedly substitutes Debian for Windows. :) |
| 02:18.12 | abrotman | debootstrap ? |
| 02:18.41 | gs | dendrite, ;) |
| 02:18.46 | gs | tomorroe |
| 02:18.49 | gs | tomorrow |
| 02:18.52 | gs | go to bed |
| 02:18.56 | gs | thank for all |
| 02:19.00 | gs | bye bye |
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| 02:22.17 | debian | !test |
| 02:22.17 | dpkg | Yes, debian, you're still online. |
| 02:22.21 | debian | dpkg still here |
| 02:22.22 | dpkg | debian is here. Auto-here every 10 minutes. Log is ON. |
| 02:22.33 | debian | I thought it goes to oftc |
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| 02:23.10 | nevyn | it officially changed |
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| 02:24.27 | Anthro | I'm looking for a utility to change the volume name on a DVD ISO image. Does anyone know of one? |
| 02:26.34 | Ferret | Ooh, good question. |
| 02:26.42 | Ferret | I nearly said volname, but that only reads. |
| 02:26.44 | abrotman | Anthro: vi ? |
| 02:26.46 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:26.52 | stew | Anthro: i think "iso" and "change" are incompatible |
| 02:27.27 | dendrite | stew: I dunno. If it's an image on disk (not on optical) then in principle one could edit it... |
| 02:27.32 | Anthro | abrotman: I tried vi. Badness ensued. |
| 02:27.43 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:27.50 | Anthro | It is, indeed, an image on disk. |
| 02:27.53 | abrotman | stew: mount over loopback ? |
| 02:28.00 | dendrite | Anthro: a hex editor? |
| 02:28.10 | stew | abrotman: you cannot mount a iso as rw even on loopback |
| 02:28.29 | abrotman | stew: i'll try darn you! |
| 02:28.33 | Ferret | Anthro: make a backup, then echo "NAMEHERE" | dd if=- of=myfile.iso bs=1 skip=32808 count=32 |
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| 02:28.46 | lunaphyte | grrr. some of these dependencies are so annoying. |
| 02:28.46 | Anthro | So the real issue is that I need Windows to see it with a name that is longer than the 32 characters allowed in a volume id. |
| 02:29.02 | Anthro | Go ahead, ask me why. |
| 02:29.13 | Ferret | Anthro: you can "dd if=myfile.iso bs=1 skip=32808 count=32" or "volname myfile.iso" to check |
| 02:29.43 | Ferret | That's an iso standard restriction. |
| 02:30.06 | Anthro | Ferret: That is good information indeed, and almost does the trick, except I need 47 characters. |
| 02:30.12 | Amarande | Anthro: Trying to copy a software DVD that uses it as copy protection? |
| 02:30.25 | killown | any know theme gtk transparent? |
| 02:30.35 | pipeline | killown: You already asked, and already got no response :P |
| 02:30.42 | Ferret | Anthro: try writing 47 carachters, I guess. I really doubt it will function as a result, though. |
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| 02:31.01 | Anthro | I am installing VS.NET, legally, in a VM. |
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| 02:32.20 | Anthro | The normal means is from a self-extracting zip file which extracts itself and runs setup, but that's a pain. I expect to have to wipe and redo this process a few times, and I really just want it all unzipped already. |
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| 02:32.40 | deadcat | i have a network storage device with port 80 and 21 open, is there a way to abuse it and see how much it can take? since i will use this to host my webserver in the near future |
| 02:32.53 | oogy2 | question: I get a kernel panic when I am upgrading etch to kernel 2.6. I also get kernel panics when I try to use any debian based 2.6 system (i have not tried any non=debian based systems on this machine). |
| 02:32.55 | pipeline | deadcat: Heh, is it a slug? because it can't take much :P |
| 02:32.55 | oogy2 | any clues? |
| 02:33.08 | Amarande | deadcat: bandwidth wise or security hole wise? |
| 02:33.10 | stew | oogy2: which bootloader are you using? |
| 02:33.12 | pipeline | deadcat: apache used to ship a really simple web server load tester; it has since been replaced with a very complex distributed multi-threaded thing. |
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| 02:33.13 | oogy2 | it occurs in ubuntu during hotplug initialization |
| 02:33.18 | oogy2 | grub |
| 02:33.22 | Anthro | So I have it unzipped and setting up and all is well until it requests 'Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 - English DVD' and won't accept anything not named exactly that. |
| 02:33.28 | deadcat | pipeline: ya. (= |
| 02:33.29 | stew | oogy2: wait, which version of debian are you running? ubuntu? |
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| 02:33.35 | oogy2 | i tried both |
| 02:33.38 | oogy2 | debian i was using etch |
| 02:33.40 | oogy2 | ubuntu 6.06 |
| 02:33.44 | stew | oogy2: what are you using now? |
| 02:33.45 | deadcat | Amarande: hardware. i guess bandwidth or cpu stuff |
| 02:33.45 | oogy2 | dapper or whatever its called |
| 02:33.46 | Ferret | Anthro: Only other solution I can think of is to extarct the entire iso, make a new one with joliet/rockridge/whatever support you need to allow >32 character volume name, and set the volume name on creation. |
| 02:33.48 | pipeline | deadcat: Yeah, a slug won't die under load, it'll just time out under a very minimal load :) |
| 02:33.56 | oogy2 | i;m using my laptop |
| 02:34.02 | oogy2 | etch 2.4 works great |
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| 02:34.11 | United | my grub is spamming grub allover any ideas? |
| 02:34.16 | travisat | what is etch 2.4? |
| 02:34.19 | stew | oogy2: which are you using now? |
| 02:34.22 | oogy2 | etch with 2.4 kernel |
| 02:34.22 | Anthro | Ferret: I am willing to do that, and I tried a couple of times. What flags do I need to set on mkisofs to get that? |
| 02:34.33 | deadcat | pipeline: dont scare me. i plan to use this for my libapache-gallery-perl, php, cups, webcam. (= |
| 02:34.41 | Ferret | Anthro: Don't remember. go find out. :P |
| 02:34.42 | oogy2 | i am using etch with the 2.4 kernel now |
| 02:34.46 | travisat | oh |
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| 02:35.03 | travisat | does anyone here use initng and vmware? |
| 02:35.04 | dendrite | oogy2: How did you (attempt to) install 2.6? |
| 02:35.15 | stew | oogy2: did you use yaird or initramfs-tools to create the initrd for 2.6? |
| 02:35.16 | oogy2 | i simply used apt-get to install the kernel image |
| 02:35.22 | oogy2 | i have not tried to compile it |
| 02:35.31 | oogy2 | knoppix also has a kernel panic in the same way |
| 02:35.32 | stew | oogy2: do you have yaird and/or initramfs-tools installed? |
| 02:35.34 | Vasistha | yay! found a debian 3.1 install cd, thought I didn't have one... |
| 02:35.41 | Anthro | Ferret: I've been through the man page a few times, and tried a few combinations. That's why I'm here. I've exhausted other avenues (not counting an exhaustive search of all possible flag combinations). |
| 02:35.50 | oogy2 | good question |
| 02:35.52 | stew | oogy2: what exactly is the error? "VFS: unable to mount root" or somehting? |
| 02:35.56 | United | stew: my grub keeps spamming grub all over the screen. can you help with this. |
| 02:36.13 | stew | United: check /usr/share/doc/grub/* and see if there are any clues in there |
| 02:36.21 | deadcat | pipeline: so you have a slug? |
| 02:36.35 | United | stew i cant get in there anymore :\ can you |
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| 02:36.45 | oogy2 | <0>Kernel panic: Fatal exception in interrupt In interrupt handler |
| 02:36.48 | oogy2 | is what it tells me |
| 02:36.49 | pipeline | deadcat: No. I considered buying one, though. |
| 02:36.51 | stew | United: why can't you? |
| 02:36.54 | travisat | what is a slug? I keep seeing all these newfangled words |
| 02:37.12 | stew | oogy2: try adding noapic to the kernel command line |
| 02:37.13 | pipeline | deadcat: abandoned that upon finding out how slow it is. If it helps any, you have your choice between both big and little endian debian ports. The official one is LE, of course, but there's something called "opendebian" that's BE. |
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| 02:37.15 | oogy2 | i did |
| 02:37.20 | oogy2 | same result |
| 02:37.21 | United | stew nm i am using rescue. is this a bug or just a configuration error on my part? |
| 02:37.28 | stew | United: i don't know |
| 02:37.34 | deadcat | pipeline: ya. i am testing it right now. will return it back to frys and get it from buy.com unless theres a cheaper one than that |
| 02:37.38 | stew | United: why can't you get to /usr/share/doc/grub though? |
| 02:37.45 | dendrite | oogy2: how about booting with noacpi? |
| 02:37.45 | oogy2 | any other ideas? |
| 02:37.48 | Vasistha | so... if I want to avoid downloading very much, perhaps the thing to do is just install a base system, and then once I've got that up, I can source this other computer over the network and install everything I want... |
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| 02:37.57 | oogy2 | dendrite: i have done that, same result unfortunately |
| 02:37.57 | stew | oogy2: pci=biosirq |
| 02:37.59 | godmachine81 | well i got my taste of e17 |
| 02:38.04 | oogy2 | i have not tried that |
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| 02:38.09 | abrotman | not on sarge |
| 02:38.10 | Ferret | Anthro: Well, iso9660 defines a whole heap of text strings and IDs you can set, a lot of which are longer than 32 characters. Windows probably cheats and uses one of those. |
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| 02:38.15 | godmachine81 | all that time and work and now im right back in fluxbox |
| 02:38.24 | deadcat | pipeline: whats the diff between big and little endian when it comes to the slug? i know that the Arm port is built for little endian. |
| 02:38.25 | godmachine81 | abrotman, yes i did |
| 02:38.29 | genti | syntax question, is the following correct? |
| 02:38.32 | abrotman | NO YOU DID NOT |
| 02:38.32 | deadcat | pipeline: is little endian that slow on the slug? |
| 02:38.36 | godmachine81 | i only upgraded somethings a while back |
| 02:38.41 | godmachine81 | and the libc6 was one |
| 02:38.45 | abrotman | godmachine81: if you can't understand that it's not sarge .. that's not my problem .. but it's not sarge |
| 02:38.52 | Ferret | Anthro: Try setting every single one(!) to something memorable, find them using vi/dd, then check those same locations against the real disk to see what they contain. |
| 02:38.54 | Anthro | Ferret: Quite likely, but I haven't found the right one. I tried -volset and that wasn't it. |
| 02:38.59 | godmachine81 | well its not 100% sarge |
| 02:39.00 | genti | gzip -dc filename | dd of=/dev/hda1 |
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| 02:39.00 | dendrite | Who would name a network appliance "slug" ?? |
| 02:39.07 | abrotman | godmachine81: then it's not sarge |
| 02:39.13 | godmachine81 | but what i done would have worked if it was sarge |
| 02:39.15 | pipeline | deadcat: They're both horrendously slow. It's nicknamed the slug for a reason. I think there may be some performance enhancement to the UNIX ABI for BE? At least, if there's any improvmeent, it has nothing to do with the slug itself. |
| 02:39.19 | abrotman | godmachine81: no it wouldn't have |
| 02:39.22 | oogy2 | hrm |
| 02:39.25 | genti | i am trying to restore a backup of a partition |
| 02:39.26 | stew | godmachine81: you shouldn't mix packages compiled for testing/unstable onto a unstable system, you should finish upgrading to testing, or reinstall stable |
| 02:39.27 | Anthro | Ferret: What do you see other than volid, volset, and hfs-volid? |
| 02:39.28 | godmachine81 | the only thing about e17 is that half the shit in it doesnt work |
| 02:39.36 | Ferret | Anthro: Woah. :) |
| 02:39.43 | godmachine81 | yes stew i know that |
| 02:39.46 | Anthro | Ferret: Those are the ones I've tried. |
| 02:39.48 | dendrite | Heh heh. It's sarge... Well, except for libc6... =8-o |
| 02:39.50 | godmachine81 | im not encouraging anyone to do that |
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| 02:40.00 | stew | godmachine81: it seems to be what you are doing |
| 02:40.01 | deadcat | pipeline: oh. didnt know thats why it was named. (=... but you think it will be good if i run apache1.3 serving a web gallery? |
| 02:40.07 | godmachine81 | this system is just "a fuck around with" box |
| 02:40.15 | Anthro | Ferret: Seriously, I'm willing to try, but I have run out of things to try. |
| 02:40.28 | godmachine81 | my other machine runs etch |
| 02:40.35 | godmachine81 | and no mixing of anything on it |
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| 02:40.50 | dendrite | "My other machine runs etch" would be a good bumper sticker... |
| 02:40.55 | godmachine81 | this one was going to run etch until i upgraded half the packages and then it fucked up |
| 02:41.03 | oogy2 | so any other suggestions for me? i am sitting at my debian testing machine.. should i try to reinstall kernel-image-2.6whateveritisnow and try more boot command lines? or should i try compiling a kernel? |
| 02:41.06 | godmachine81 | cuz the cpu doesnt work on newer kernels for some reason |
| 02:41.07 | abrotman | dendrite: maybe "unstable" would be better? |
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| 02:41.10 | godmachine81 | some kind of amd related shit |
| 02:41.23 | dendrite | abrotman: :-) |
| 02:41.24 | godmachine81 | its an old proc tho but the way i rigged it up it works |
| 02:41.33 | genti | guys i going crazy here .. please heeeelppp |
| 02:41.47 | genti | is the syntax correct? gzip -dc filename | dd of=/dev/hda1 |
| 02:41.51 | abrotman | no |
| 02:41.51 | Ferret | Anthro: application_id publisher_id preparer_id volid ID |
| 02:42.04 | Ferret | Anthro: search man page :p |
| 02:42.23 | genti | i have to study both gzip and dd |
| 02:42.33 | genti | and i have to give this thing back |
| 02:42.40 | genti | tomorrow morning |
| 02:42.46 | travisat | 506 packages not upgraded scares me |
| 02:42.48 | dendrite | genti: No, and it looks like you're about a half a click away from hosing /dev/hda1. |
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| 02:43.03 | Ferret | genti, you gzipped the contents of your block device? |
| 02:43.07 | genti | yes |
| 02:43.13 | genti | i used before |
| 02:43.14 | Ferret | Is it a big file? |
| 02:43.43 | genti | yes, lik 30 GB |
| 02:43.46 | genti | or so |
| 02:43.47 | Ferret | good |
| 02:43.55 | pipeline | deadcat: very slowly, sure :P |
| 02:43.58 | Ferret | Are you 100% sure /dev/hda1 contains nothing of value? |
| 02:44.04 | genti | yes |
| 02:44.05 | pipeline | deadcat: it's cool because it's small and cheap, fast or not :) |
| 02:44.20 | genti | i had a problem with the partition and before trying to correct it |
| 02:44.24 | genti | i did a backup |
| 02:44.30 | Ferret | genti: `gzcat filename > /dev/hda1` should work |
| 02:44.35 | genti | needless to say i did not work |
| 02:44.38 | deadcat | pipeline: ya. thats what i am thinking. but i am planning to use it to replace the stuff i do on my desktop so i can turn it off at night (= |
| 02:44.44 | genti | let me try it |
| 02:44.47 | genti | just a sec |
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| 02:45.18 | Ferret | genti: still there? Got one thing to note |
| 02:45.36 | Ferret | genti: Anything of value on the entirety of /dev/hda? |
| 02:45.50 | Ferret | </paranoia> |
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| 02:46.24 | dendrite | Ferret: It's a bit unnerving, tossing data around like that. :-) |
| 02:46.35 | Ferret | You're telling me. :P |
| 02:47.06 | Ferret | Personally, when I'm doing a backup... I care about files. And linux has this really neat utility for copying files, you may have heard of it |
| 02:47.12 | Ferret | It's called cp |
| 02:47.27 | dendrite | Ferret: Yeah, but cp is so 'last millennium'... |
| 02:47.36 | Ferret | yeah, I know! |
| 02:47.43 | nevyn | tar |
| 02:47.50 | abrotman | cow |
| 02:48.12 | nevyn | the thing that's neat tho.. is that if you try to copy a file that's open by a process it still lets you |
| 02:48.23 | Ferret | Who cares about the advantages that you don't need easy-to-mistake dd lines, you can change the filesystem and partition size, etc... |
| 02:48.32 | deadcat | pipeline: i just ssh'ed into a school 400mhz box. its pretty fast.... its running apache and all kind of junks. |
| 02:49.16 | genti | Ferret, i had to do some mounting but i do not think i have gzcat installed |
| 02:49.23 | genti | i am using a knoppix dvd |
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| 02:49.38 | pipeline | deadcat: heh, but the slug is not a typical machine :) |
| 02:49.39 | Ferret | genti: It may be called zcat. It's ... hang on, let me check what it really is. |
| 02:49.41 | dendrite | Ferret: Yeah, but you have to admit, dd of=/dev/hda1 is memorable command fragment... |
| 02:49.56 | dendrite | zcat it is. |
| 02:49.58 | Ferret | zcat is identical to gunzip -c |
| 02:50.05 | genti | thank you gus |
| 02:50.13 | genti | i will pull the trigger and come back |
| 02:50.25 | deadcat | pipeline: damn (=.. oh well. gonna get it anyway. if it cant handle the load i get with the desktop. i will use it for travelling/demo and shits |
| 02:50.28 | dendrite | genti: You got Ferret's question about the data on the rest of /dev/hda? |
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| 02:50.41 | pipeline | deadcat: It'll still be way cool no matter how slow. |
| 02:50.45 | deadcat | ya |
| 02:50.45 | Ferret | dendrite: I rarely have to use dd... today was one of the few times, while reading stuff straight from an iso file header. |
| 02:50.48 | genti | now i saw it |
| 02:50.53 | pipeline | deadcat: It at least has enough memory to be useful, unlike a certain other linksys linux product. |
| 02:50.55 | genti | yes the rest of the hda is fine |
| 02:50.56 | Ferret | dendrite: and tbh I could have used head and tail. |
| 02:51.00 | roadfish | anyway to convert MP3/Ogg/wav to audible (AA) format in Linux? |
| 02:51.01 | Amarande | Why is it that for some reason it always seems to be more fun to break stuff than to try to keep it going? |
| 02:51.02 | deadcat | pipeline: i always wanted to patch the kernel with grsecurity hahah |
| 02:51.06 | RoAkSoAx | hellor there!! i need help, can somebody tell me how to mount a ntfs partition? |
| 02:51.14 | genti | but the mbr and that particular partition are problematic |
| 02:51.27 | deadcat | pipeline: ya. 64MB on something like this is pretty nice |
| 02:51.45 | dendrite | genti: The question was whether *any part* of /dev/hda had anything on it of value.. |
| 02:51.45 | Ferret | genti: This is why it's better to backup files, not partitions.:) |
| 02:52.01 | genti | dendrite: i hope that the zcat will not have any effect on the rest |
| 02:52.16 | Ferret | Sorry for being bossy after-the-fact. :) |
| 02:52.53 | genti | Ferret , dendrite, the partition was gone after a starge update i think, probably lilo messed things up |
| 02:52.58 | deadcat | pipeline: heres my other idea. install a bluetooth device on the slug. make it search for a certain bluetooth idea. when i am about to open the front door, it will be close enough to see the thing and run a wake on lan util to startup my desktop (=.. |
| 02:53.06 | dendrite | genti: We're talking about *more* than just that partition... |
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| 02:53.49 | dendrite | I gues genti could zcat to a file, then mount loopback, then cp... |
| 02:54.02 | Anthro | Ferret: Okay, I'm trying it with a bunch of those ids. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for the leads. |
| 02:54.05 | dendrite | That would be safer. |
| 02:54.20 | RoAkSoAx | hellor there!! i need help, can somebody tell me how to mount a ntfs partition? |
| 02:54.21 | robert_ | how good is the net installer for debian? |
| 02:54.31 | Ferret | genti: important fact: If you back up a partition the way you have, you'll need to have a pretty-much-identical setup in fdisk to be able to recover it. EXACT partition size. |
| 02:54.31 | dendrite | robert_: it rocks. |
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| 02:54.38 | genti | dendrite: the hda1 was the windows partition and i tried the stupid recovery mode of xp |
| 02:54.44 | genti | needless to say i trashed it |
| 02:54.58 | genti | i had a backup of the mbr and the partition so i hope i will be able to restore it |
| 02:55.10 | robert_ | dendrite: mind helping me config my debian server after I get it all installed? |
| 02:55.35 | genti | Ferret, yes i am trying to restore the exact same thing in the same laptop |
| 02:55.47 | genti | Ferret: i checked the partition table and no changes there |
| 02:55.48 | dendrite | robert_: If I'm here, I'll help the channel answer specific questions, but I won't volunteer to be your personal man page turner. |
| 02:55.58 | liable | RoAkSoAx: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 02:56.26 | robert_ | Eh- I wasn't talking about that |
| 02:56.30 | dendrite | XP Recovery Mode. What a hoot. |
| 02:56.54 | genti | Ferret, dendrite, thanks guys i will go to eat something while this things finishes |
| 02:56.58 | genti | i know xp sucks |
| 02:57.00 | RoAkSoAx | liable, k ty |
| 02:57.07 | genti | but i tried some things from debian and |
| 02:57.10 | genti | did not help |
| 02:57.20 | genti | i tried to restore the superblock |
| 02:57.24 | RoAkSoAx | but isnt that for fat? |
| 02:57.25 | genti | from the automatic backups |
| 02:57.31 | genti | but did not help |
| 02:57.40 | RoAkSoAx | nvrmind :s |
| 02:58.13 | genti | again, thanks and talk to you later |
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| 03:00.08 | debian | what replaced 'eximconfig'? |
| 03:00.14 | abrotman | !drec debhelper |
| 03:00.14 | dpkg | debhelper: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config # run it as root |
| 03:00.20 | abrotman | bah .. you get the picture :) |
| 03:00.26 | debian | thanks |
| 03:01.36 | RoAkSoAx | need help again, i keep gettin an error sayin : APIC error on CPU0 : 40 (40) |
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| 03:02.58 | Amarande | RoAkSoAx: Errrrr ... |
| 03:03.08 | RoAkSoAx | Amarande, ?? |
| 03:03.20 | Amarande | RoAkSoAx: That's a chip. |
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| 03:04.00 | Amarande | That message means your motherboard's broken, I think. |
| 03:04.06 | Amarande | Off to newegg with you. |
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| 03:04.24 | Amarande | Or wherever you get components. |
| 03:04.31 | Amarande | But you're going to be going under the hood with a Philips, I think. |
| 03:04.45 | dendrite | RoAkSoAx: Maybe pull and reseat the CPU? |
| 03:05.00 | RoAkSoAx | Amarande, could it be my wireless card? |
| 03:05.00 | dendrite | RoAkSoAx: Remember your thermal paste... |
| 03:05.18 | RoAkSoAx | Amarande, i keep getting that error after i installed ipw2200 |
| 03:06.18 | RoAkSoAx | Amarande, sometimes it goes like all the times, sometimes it doesnt |
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| 03:08.54 | playplay | having problem with some realplayer sites. mplayer Pre7 ahve codec for up to which version of realplayer? |
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| 03:09.46 | bgilb | how do i change my display manager? |
| 03:09.51 | bgilb | er window manager sorry |
| 03:09.56 | playplay | sorry, should be in #mplayer |
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| 03:10.34 | debian | bgilb: update-alternatives |
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| 03:10.53 | astronut | bgilb: depends, what DM do you use? |
| 03:10.57 | astronut | kdm, gdm, xdm? |
| 03:11.01 | bgilb | i have no clue what im using right now |
| 03:11.08 | bgilb | gdm is my display manager |
| 03:11.11 | astronut | ok |
| 03:11.11 | bgilb | i want to use icewm |
| 03:11.17 | astronut | is icewm installed? |
| 03:11.20 | bgilb | yeah |
| 03:11.22 | astronut | ok |
| 03:11.23 | astronut | log out |
| 03:11.29 | astronut | when you're logging in again |
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| 03:11.39 | l00pdee | if i uninstall exim4, it wants to uninstall at and some other system things, i cannot uninstall exim4 ? or if i reinstall exim4 , how do i get all the files in /etc/exim4 ? because i rm -rf /etc/exim4 ... did i make a mistake ? |
| 03:11.39 | astronut | there is a "Sessions" button/option on GDM |
| 03:11.40 | astronut | click it |
| 03:11.43 | astronut | select ICEWM |
| 03:11.46 | bgilb | ok |
| 03:11.48 | astronut | it will ask you if you want it to be default |
| 03:11.50 | astronut | say yes |
| 03:11.59 | bgilb | thank you |
| 03:12.00 | bgilb | brb |
| 03:12.03 | astronut | (or no, to use it only once) |
| 03:14.18 | litage | i've ssh'd into a single box twice as the same user. in one session, i've backgrounded a process using CTRL+Z. is it possible to foreground that process in the other session? |
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| 03:14.57 | killown | my gkrellm no display window help - me |
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| 03:15.02 | astronut | litage: nop |
| 03:15.03 | astronut | e |
| 03:15.16 | astronut | only from the shell that spawned it |
| 03:15.21 | litage | phooey |
| 03:15.31 | astronut | trust me, everyone wishes you could |
| 03:15.35 | astronut | litage: next time, use screen |
| 03:15.48 | litage | ah yeah, good ol' screen. i should use that more |
| 03:15.56 | astronut | ya |
| 03:16.10 | astronut | (what'd be great would be to be able to bg something then fg it using screen) |
| 03:16.20 | astronut | btw, ctrl+z doesn't background a task, it pauses it |
| 03:16.26 | astronut | you have to use bg to abckground it |
| 03:16.55 | nevyn | ctry-Y is supposed to be able to backgrond a task |
| 03:17.16 | nevyn | astronut: ctrl- a D will detach the screen screen -r to reattach |
| 03:17.54 | astronut | nevyn: yes, i know how to use screen |
| 03:18.04 | nevyn | 13:16 < astronut> (what'd be great would be to be able to bg something then fg it |
| 03:18.06 | astronut | i'm saying if i have something running outside of screen, to pull it into it |
| 03:18.07 | nevyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.09 | nevyn | \ |
| 03:18.13 | nevyn | ah |
| 03:18.27 | astronut | only fg using screen, sorry |
| 03:18.29 | astronut | i wasn't clear |
| 03:19.52 | nevyn | I get you now |
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| 03:20.15 | avner | hello |
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| 03:21.02 | Ferret | You can't move processes like that because of a silly restriction on the way FDs and env works on unix, iirc |
| 03:21.03 | avner | everytime i restart sarge, the /media/cdrom0 and cdrom1 are missing and have to recreate them everytime. what do i need to look into? thanks |
| 03:21.08 | Ferret | It's not fixable, ever |
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| 03:28.51 | itguru | Oh yeah, before i forget - I got a webserver here that is serving 20 sites, really well, we're using portforwarding which as we all know, we can only forward one port to one machine at a time. IIRC, is it not possdible to have another machine actually host the sites, and have apache forward the requests to it, so that we can host another webserver behind the same firewall, without screwing everything up? |
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| 03:30.34 | dendrite | itguru: Yes, you can have apache pass along requests. |
| 03:31.21 | zinx | itguru: what's this about only forwarding one port to one machine at a time stuff? |
| 03:31.37 | itguru | zinx: You mean that's not true? |
| 03:31.42 | itguru | zinx: Tell me more :) |
| 03:31.50 | zinx | itguru: you can forward multiple ports, to multiple machines -- and even forward one port to multiple machines (though, only one connection per machine) |
| 03:32.11 | zinx | itguru: for forwarding one port to multiple machines (as load balancing), you can use the 'random' match plugin |
| 03:32.36 | itguru | zinx: ahh... now that I think of it, I HAVE heard of that |
| 03:33.00 | itguru | zinx: But that is an overkill for my situation, and I use an off the shelf netgear router |
| 03:33.03 | zinx | itguru: but without knowing what it is that you want done, i can't be too helpful |
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| 03:33.51 | itguru | zinx: I just want to set up multiple machines hosting sites, and I have port 80 fowarding to my gateway machine, and then forwarded from my gateway machine, to my webserver |
| 03:34.34 | dendrite | itguru: Why not just skip the gateway machine altogether? |
| 03:35.17 | zinx | itguru: multiple machines hosting different sites, on one IP? |
| 03:35.18 | itguru | dendrite: Because i have 4 diffrent subnets, and my router want port forward to a subnet it can't connect to directly |
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| 03:35.35 | zinx | itguru: you'll have to use different ports, or virtual hosting and different dns entries |
| 03:35.36 | itguru | zinx: Got it in one - that's exactly what I got |
| 03:36.08 | travisat | test |
| 03:36.19 | RoAkSoAx | i need help again!! y is that when i use linux it my cpu heats or has some error and when i use virows doesnt? u have any idea? |
| 03:37.21 | RoAkSoAx | it show APIC error on CPU0 |
| 03:37.30 | itguru | damn, I was hoping I could get apache to pass on the webpages itself, rather that having to reconfigre servers and all that |
| 03:37.42 | dendrite | itguru: It can. |
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| 03:38.22 | dendrite | itguru: Depending on exactly what you're doing, you can use mod_redirect (easier) or mod_rewrite. |
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| 03:39.48 | itguru | dendrite: i'm going to google to check that out, be back in a second |
| 03:40.03 | dendrite | itguru: Also check out the pretty OK apache documentation. |
| 03:41.35 | dendrite | RoAkSoAx: Also, is your BIOS up to date? |
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| 03:43.02 | stoned | bios updates |
| 03:43.20 | stoned | i'll never buy another brand name computer ever again |
| 03:43.34 | stoned | fuck dell, fuck ibm, fuck compaq, fuck em all |
| 03:43.39 | stoned | :/ |
| 03:43.48 | beefcake | indeed |
| 03:43.50 | stoned | build your own shit with your own parts |
| 03:43.52 | beefcake | compile your own |
| 03:43.56 | RoAkSoAx | dendrite nope, but it doesnt improve much its a uniwill.com model... but the thing is that in windows doesnt show error, cuz in linux a red light turned on after that error |
| 03:43.56 | shogunx | why buy when you can build better and cheaper. |
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| 03:44.00 | stoned | the problem here being |
| 03:44.01 | CompWizrd | last fileserver i priced out for namebrand cost more with no disks or tape in it than i could build the entire system with a 16 slot autoloader tape drive and disks. |
| 03:44.13 | beefcake | well building cheaper isnt really the case |
| 03:44.19 | stoned | bios is mostly locked down and NOT updatable with most of those brand names |
| 03:44.22 | beefcake | beating dell's prices is hard they buy waaaay too large |
| 03:44.23 | RoAkSoAx | it was working fine until i updated some unstable/test things and installed my ipw2200 |
| 03:44.34 | dendrite | RoAkSoAx: What I'm seeing in google suggests that a BIOS upgrade might help. |
| 03:44.57 | stoned | sony is especially horrible with that |
| 03:44.59 | CompWizrd | beefcake: i couldn't find a dell server that would take 16 SATA |
| 03:45.04 | CompWizrd | all of them wanted to go SAS or SCSI |
| 03:45.14 | beefcake | im not a dell lover in any way |
| 03:45.17 | stoned | CompWizrd, I'm not talking about server machines |
| 03:45.19 | Amarande | Brand name computers sell mostly because people seem to care more about the support contract than the computer quality itself. |
| 03:45.25 | beefcake | but i know their default boxes are extremely cheap |
| 03:45.26 | Amarande | CompWizrd: SCSI is a Good Thing(tm) |
| 03:45.30 | Amarande | IDE and SATA ... bleah |
| 03:45.32 | stoned | Amarande, exactly |
| 03:45.32 | CompWizrd | i do like the dell network switches.. 260 bucks for a 24 port gigabit with fiber uplinks isn't too bad |
| 03:45.44 | CompWizrd | Amarande: 4 TB of scsi becomes.. pricey. |
| 03:45.53 | Amarande | IDE is the VHS of hard drives :P |
| 03:45.55 | RoAkSoAx | BIOS fixed bugs : 1.Fix video card control issue. |
| 03:45.58 | stoned | Immagine the amount of porn you can store with 4tb |
| 03:46.00 | stoned | wow man |
| 03:46.05 | shogunx | beefcake dell also puts many things into machines one potentially not want to have with building. less components drives the cost down. |
| 03:46.09 | Tomze | lattitude d410 runs etch perfect.. damn nice 12" laptop |
| 03:46.11 | beefcake | i have more than 4 tb hehe |
| 03:46.16 | beefcake | only 2.5tb pr0n though |
| 03:46.18 | RoAkSoAx | dendrite: thats what the latest update fixs |
| 03:46.40 | stoned | beefcake, you gonna share or what? nothing better than hitting someone else's porn stash |
| 03:46.44 | CompWizrd | maxtor claims their maxline III's will finally work with raid.. va111680 firmware |
| 03:46.48 | CompWizrd | still testing that |
| 03:46.53 | Daedalus_ | shogunx: I think the primary benefit is the option to not use bargain bin parts. Cost is usuall greater with a build, unless you're going super barebones |
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| 03:46.56 | stoned | well, sometimes you get the weirdos with some crazy shit that gets em off |
| 03:47.09 | beefcake | oh i dont collect weird short clips |
| 03:47.15 | beefcake | i just do full feature flicks |
| 03:47.15 | beefcake | heh |
| 03:47.20 | stoned | actually, building a pc is much cheaper than buying one from them |
| 03:47.35 | stoned | that is IF you want quality |
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| 03:47.45 | shogunx | Daedalus_, well, dell would sell me a $400 video card, when what i really want is a serial console. |
| 03:47.51 | Amarande | Maxtor ... |
| 03:48.00 | Amarande | Someone once posted that Maxtor was the Yugo of hard drives. :) |
| 03:48.06 | stoned | yugo? |
| 03:48.14 | CompWizrd | Amarande: it's seagate now! :) |
| 03:48.17 | Amarande | stoned: Yugo was a brand of car produced in Yugoslavia |
| 03:48.17 | Daedalus_ | .... ? Wtf are you spec'ing out? |
| 03:48.20 | CompWizrd | even their tech support line had been updated |
| 03:48.25 | shogunx | Daedalus_, and one need not use the "LATEST" parts to achieve good performance either. |
| 03:48.29 | stoned | hah, cars were made there? |
| 03:48.29 | Amarande | It was notorious for its poor quality. |
| 03:48.39 | Amarande | But people bought them, because they were cheap. |
| 03:48.41 | stoned | hmm, I didn't know they had technology |
| 03:48.47 | CompWizrd | i'm waiting for the Chery to hit the USA |
| 03:48.48 | CompWizrd | should be interseting |
| 03:48.58 | CompWizrd | one of the chinese cars was the first to get a 0 star crash rating |
| 03:49.22 | Amarande | 0 star crash rating |
| 03:49.24 | itguru | dendrite: I've been reading the apache manuals online *very well doucmented I might add* and i'm begining to thing that the rewrite thing just tells the browser what to request next, rather than getting it for the browser, and sending it |
| 03:49.37 | shogunx | Daedalus_, i.e. once can more than likely build a cluster of year-old machines to outperform a new smp, at a fraction of the cost. |
| 03:49.48 | CompWizrd | Amarande: at 30mph, basically there's no gap between the back of the seat and the steering wheel |
| 03:49.53 | stoned | shogunx, I scored 7 banking machiens from BoA |
| 03:49.58 | Amarande | When car crashes, car will be crushed so thoroughly that it and everything in it collapses into a black hole. :) |
| 03:50.06 | stoned | 1ghz, all identical, 512 ram, most stuff onboard |
| 03:50.09 | stoned | 20b hdds |
| 03:50.13 | stoned | gb* |
| 03:50.30 | dendrite | itguru: Why I said "somewhat OK" for the mod_rewrite documentation is because, well, there be dragons, and I wonder if it could be better explained. mod_rewrite is insanely powerful. |
| 03:50.35 | stoned | they wiped the disks and threw away the hardwares. I went dumpster diving |
| 03:50.36 | shogunx | stoned heh heh. thats cool. |
| 03:50.48 | stoned | shogunx, I had a cluster running a few months ago |
| 03:51.00 | stoned | quite nice |
| 03:51.09 | stoned | but it would've been nice had I actually had a gb eth |
| 03:51.15 | shogunx | stoned nice, eh? mine is getting older... time to add some nodes:) |
| 03:51.15 | stoned | nicer* |
| 03:51.29 | stoned | how many do you have? |
| 03:51.30 | CompWizrd | Amarande: http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/07/jiangling-landwind-x6-crash-test-passenger-cabin/ |
| 03:51.35 | shogunx | stoned for sure. backplane makes a big difference. |
| 03:52.12 | itguru | dendrite: I'm looking at some of the examples, and I'm thinking, so THAT's how they did that! |
| 03:52.19 | CompWizrd | dammit, video is gone |
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| 03:52.22 | bintut | hello all.. |
| 03:52.23 | shogunx | stoned the cluster was built at 10gHz. it has bounced around there, between 7-10 hosts, since i built it. |
| 03:52.55 | stoned | not bad |
| 03:52.59 | stoned | I had 8ghz |
| 03:53.06 | bintut | i'm running bind-9 and i got this problem after more than a year of running it.. |
| 03:53.13 | bintut | # dig host.domain.com |
| 03:53.14 | bintut | ;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 127.0.0.1, trying next server |
| 03:53.15 | shogunx | its almost 3 years old now. |
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| 03:53.18 | bintut | ;; Got SERVFAIL reply from 192.168.1.4, trying next server |
| 03:53.50 | bintut | the named is running and i'm dig from the name server itself |
| 03:53.59 | tuv | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:54.00 | bintut | anyone can help? |
| 03:54.15 | stoned | I doubt just anyone can help |
| 03:54.44 | stoned | bintut, "can anyone help?" |
| 03:54.47 | stoned | :) |
| 03:54.56 | tuv | i meant even when the lid is open, in case anyone noticed :) |
| 03:55.10 | shogunx | bintut i assume you have restarted the named without success already? |
| 03:55.33 | shogunx | with no zombie named's running around anywhere? |
| 03:56.08 | CompWizrd | Amarande: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9OlxjkInWg&search=crash%20test |
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| 03:56.13 | CompWizrd | there's the 0 star crash offset |
| 03:56.27 | stoned | jetscreamer, I am thinking of moving to houston ;) |
| 03:56.34 | bintut | shogunx: i already restarted it and currently running.. |
| 03:56.34 | jetscreamer | i never customize X why does this say this: xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized |
| 03:56.39 | CompWizrd | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVwmuQqN46g&search=landwind |
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| 03:56.59 | stoned | jetscreamer, postinst script fails to run, maybe you could update the md5sum on X and try again |
| 03:57.04 | shogunx | bintut, no named <defunct> anywhere in a ps -e? |
| 03:57.05 | jetscreamer | stoned: houston really sucks compared to anywhere else, people wise, but it's a good place to make money |
| 03:57.21 | stoned | jetscreamer, thats exactly why. I got friends there, plus family |
| 03:57.25 | jetscreamer | no the postinst script ran |
| 03:57.29 | stoned | it did? |
| 03:57.37 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 03:57.41 | stoned | try reseting the md5 |
| 03:57.48 | stoned | it happened to me two weeks ago |
| 03:57.51 | jetscreamer | it's not xorg.conf |
| 03:57.54 | jetscreamer | yeah me too |
| 03:57.55 | stoned | I can't remember exactly how I fixed it |
| 03:58.02 | bintut | shogunx: i'll check.. |
| 03:58.07 | stoned | bug gravity ;) |
| 03:58.42 | jetscreamer | !dbugs gravity |
| 03:58.44 | dpkg | do_pkg not supported yet. |
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| 03:58.47 | hikikomori | hi |
| 03:58.59 | hikikomori | can i ask something please? |
| 03:59.06 | jetscreamer | no |
| 03:59.07 | stoned | you're probably making his irc flash |
| 03:59.09 | stoned | !ask |
| 03:59.09 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 03:59.09 | jetscreamer | how dare you ask |
| 03:59.17 | hikikomori | ok many thanx |
| 03:59.21 | jetscreamer | how dare you ask to ask |
| 03:59.26 | jetscreamer | just ask |
| 03:59.34 | stoned | or like black peopl say it |
| 03:59.37 | stoned | just AKS man |
| 03:59.46 | hikikomori | people look |
| 03:59.48 | jdv79 | how big is the i386 portion of the debian repo? |
| 04:00.01 | jetscreamer | it's ax |
| 04:00.10 | hikikomori | i have xorg installed on my machine , but for compiling some video libraries i need mesa |
| 04:00.16 | stoned | homophonic, same deal |
| 04:00.17 | hikikomori | and mesa is xfree.... how can i do? |
| 04:00.24 | deadcat | jdv79: 8gig right? |
| 04:00.39 | stoned | deadcat, hey there |
| 04:00.39 | jdv79 | i'm asking - i don't know |
| 04:00.43 | jetscreamer | mesa isn't nec. xfree |
| 04:00.51 | jetscreamer | !mesa |
| 04:00.51 | dpkg | it has been said that mesa is the free implementation of the OpenGL API, more information is at http://www.mesa3d.org/ or ask me about 'glx' |
| 04:00.59 | jetscreamer | !glx |
| 04:00.59 | bintut | shogunx: http://pastebin.com/705813 |
| 04:00.59 | dpkg | glx is probably opengl for X. Currently, Matrox MGA-G200, MGA-G400, ATI Rage based cards, Intel i810 cards, and nvidia's RIVA series are supported. it can be grabbed from CVS at :mailto:pserver:anonymous@cvs.utah-glx.sourceforge.net:/cvs/utah-glx or at http://utah-glx.sourceforge.net, or ask me about `glx debs`, or included in XF4 nowadays and uses dri, so utah-glx is obsolete. |
| 04:01.22 | deejoe | aptitude install xlibmesa-dev |
| 04:01.25 | deadcat | stoned: whats up man.. i've been reading the debianslug (= definitely gonna get one |
| 04:01.34 | stoned | whats that man |
| 04:01.35 | deejoe | I wonder if that might still work? |
| 04:01.43 | hikikomori | but xlibmesa-dev is xfree! |
| 04:01.44 | stoned | I heard someone else mention it but I had to go to work |
| 04:01.48 | hikikomori | and im using xorg |
| 04:01.51 | stoned | !debianslug |
| 04:01.54 | stoned | eh |
| 04:02.12 | deadcat | stoned: its a linksys nslu2, network storage system. but if you flash the firmware. its a freakin linux box (= |
| 04:02.35 | stoned | yeah |
| 04:02.35 | Tomze | great toy ! :) |
| 04:02.36 | stoned | I just read it on nslu2.org |
| 04:02.41 | hikikomori | hi? |
| 04:02.47 | hikikomori | can anybody help me? |
| 04:02.51 | jdv79 | anyone know how big the debian-security repo is and if it can be partially mirrored? |
| 04:02.56 | deadcat | Tomze: hella. its gonna replace my desktop for webserver/ssh server and much more (=. |
| 04:03.05 | jetscreamer | hikikomori: no it's not xorg or xfree86 specific i don't believe |
| 04:03.16 | jetscreamer | !mirror |
| 04:03.20 | Tomze | deadcat: did you deunderclock it yet ? |
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| 04:03.37 | jetscreamer | !repo |
| 04:03.42 | jetscreamer | !repository |
| 04:03.42 | dpkg | debian repository is, like, a set of Debian packages organized into a predefined structure for fetching with apt-get. A howto is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html |
| 04:03.51 | deadcat | Tomze: i just got it today. i am gonna return it back to fry's and order it from buy.com.. |
| 04:03.53 | jetscreamer | jdv79: ^^ |
| 04:03.56 | stoned | thats sweet |
| 04:04.04 | stoned | I have a w54g ;) |
| 04:04.06 | jdv79 | excuse me? |
| 04:04.12 | stoned | it runs dd-wrt firmware |
| 04:04.14 | jdv79 | oh |
| 04:04.17 | deadcat | Tomze: and i dont even have a usb enclosure. i am using my 128MB thumb drive right now. its still default firmware |
| 04:04.17 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html might help might not |
| 04:04.35 | Tomze | deadcat: ahhh okay - but let me tell... when you read that it takes long time to boot first time you better belive it ! ;) |
| 04:04.47 | tuv | oh.. debianslug is incredible.. i've one and always thinking of getting another! |
| 04:05.03 | deadcat | Tomze: oh. you have one? (= |
| 04:05.34 | jdv79 | it doesn't answer my query but it does have interesting info, thanks jetscreamer |
| 04:05.41 | Tomze | deadcat: yep.. still dont know aht to use it for but i got one... as i said - great toy :) |
| 04:06.29 | stoned | i miss dialup modems and bbs and oldschool hacking |
| 04:06.52 | stoned | its just not the same anymore, and its getting worse just as well as it is getting better |
| 04:06.56 | jetscreamer | procomm2.0 |
| 04:06.57 | stoned | technology/hackery wise |
| 04:07.42 | deadcat | Tomze: hahaha. i am gonna replace my desktop (web site, libapache-gallery-perl, php, cups, maybe usb wireless to setup a access point, webcam with motion detection, ssh server for my friends to connect (slow hehe), and setup a bluetooth to search for a certain device, when it sees me coming home outside the door, it runs a wake on lan software to wake up my desktop, so i am good to go hehe) |
| 04:07.48 | hikikomori | how can i install mesa? |
| 04:07.49 | tuv | i'm running dovecot, nfs and lighttpd on my debianSlug and it's doing great |
| 04:07.49 | k-man | how do i make make use more than one cpu when compiling? |
| 04:07.54 | deadcat | hikikomori: apt-get install |
| 04:08.02 | hikikomori | apt-get install mesa? |
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| 04:08.09 | k-man | oh, nm, its -j |
| 04:08.16 | deadcat | hikikomori: search for the exact mesa package name |
| 04:08.20 | stoned | heh, nfs? unecrypted? |
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| 04:08.36 | Tomze | deadcat: when your done pleace send me a copy of /etc ;) sounds great ! |
| 04:08.45 | deadcat | tuv: ok.. smooth you say? |
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| 04:09.23 | tuv | deadcat, for those jobs.. ya.. and i'm using it as print server too (CUPS) |
| 04:09.23 | deadcat | Tomze: ya. sure.. no problem. (= but i still need to do more research since i need to patch the kernel with grsecurity haha |
| 04:09.30 | bintut | shogunx: still there? |
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| 04:09.38 | shogunx | bintut, indeed. |
| 04:09.42 | bintut | shogunx: http://pastebin.com/705813 |
| 04:09.43 | deadcat | tuv: nice. what about running bitorrent in screen? too much? |
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| 04:10.03 | hikikomori | deadcat |
| 04:10.05 | Tomze | deadcat: i will remeber that !.. you got two weeks |
| 04:10.10 | hikikomori | where should i look? |
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| 04:10.16 | hikikomori | search? |
| 04:10.23 | deejoe | apt-cache search mesa-dev |
| 04:10.31 | deejoe | aptitude search mesa-dev |
| 04:10.35 | deejoe | etc |
| 04:10.43 | tuv | deadcat, i didn't try it on debianslug.. i tried it on unslung (the linksys compatible firmware). it was working but there were no good text-mode clients |
| 04:10.47 | deadcat | Tomze: )= i have to order online first. since i am gonna return this. get a usb enclosure, overclock it. install and setup all those? AND the damn bluetooth hehe |
| 04:11.01 | Tomze | aptitude still does a lousy serach deejoe.. |
| 04:11.10 | shogunx | bintut, does /var/log/daemon.log tell you anything interesting? |
| 04:11.16 | deejoe | yeah, my first inclination was apt-cache |
| 04:11.27 | deadcat | tuv: it seems to me that debianslug is better since theres much more packages vs unslung |
| 04:11.42 | hikikomori | ok |
| 04:11.46 | hikikomori | its xlibmesa-dev |
| 04:11.53 | deejoe | :-) |
| 04:11.53 | hikikomori | but that one depends on other packages |
| 04:11.55 | stoned | apt-cache show wajig |
| 04:11.55 | Tomze | deadcat: sure... im in no hurry ;) but thanks in advance !.. gotta get some sleep its 6 in the morning here (crazy) |
| 04:12.03 | stoned | or make your own aliases |
| 04:12.03 | tuv | deadcat, yup.. but any script-based apps are going to be slow.. i use getmail (python) and it's really slow, but it works! |
| 04:12.14 | stoned | wajig wajig wajig wajig |
| 04:12.20 | bintut | shogunx: can i pmsg you? |
| 04:12.29 | deejoe | wajig, cool. |
| 04:12.29 | stoned | bintut, proabably not ;) |
| 04:12.31 | shogunx | bintut, yeah. |
| 04:12.37 | vin` | Tomze: read the search patterns section of aptitude's help, it's pretty powerful. |
| 04:12.38 | stoned | hah |
| 04:12.40 | deadcat | tuv: heheh. |
| 04:12.51 | stoned | deejoe, its a cool tool |
| 04:13.03 | tuv | deadcat, getmail was much much much faster on unslung.. i have no idea why, but those "much"s are not enough to describe the difference |
| 04:13.07 | deejoe | hopefully I remember it in the morning. |
| 04:13.33 | Tomze | vin`: ahhh - cool - i just took a look at the man page yesterday and figured out how to leave out suggested packages... i take a look - thanks ! |
| 04:13.36 | deadcat | tuv: unslung might be big endian. debianslug is little endian, but there is opendebianslug which is big endian i think |
| 04:13.40 | deejoe | as well as all this nslu2 talk--it's one of those things every time I hear of it I think "I ought to get me some of that" |
| 04:13.50 | stoned | man |
| 04:13.56 | tuv | deadcat, yes, but it doesn't use a debian kernel |
| 04:13.58 | stoned | ya'll make me wanna get one or two |
| 04:14.11 | stoned | there is no such thing as a debian kernel |
| 04:14.12 | deejoe | "take two, they're small" |
| 04:14.15 | deadcat | tuv: true. can you compile your own? |
| 04:14.16 | hikikomori | look |
| 04:14.26 | tuv | deadcat, actually openDebianSlug's kernel has better support for the nslu2 than debian's |
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| 04:14.37 | stoned | there is the 'linux' kernel compiled and pacakged for debian |
| 04:14.43 | deadcat | where? |
| 04:14.44 | stoned | but no debian kernel |
| 04:14.53 | tuv | deadcat, yes, using the MasterMakeFile |
| 04:15.01 | peterS | stoned: you're being thick |
| 04:15.08 | peterS | amazingly |
| 04:15.14 | hikikomori | the problem i have is that im trying to isntall xlibmesa-glu |
| 04:15.16 | stoned | I'm not sure what you mean? |
| 04:15.18 | Award | I tried building the backport version of nvidia-kernel-source against the kernel.org version of 2.6.16.20 and got an error "/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/os-interface.c:1375: error: structure has no member named `rlim'" Any ideas on what could cause this? |
| 04:15.30 | tuv | deadcat, e.g. debian's kernel right now lacks nfs kernel modules |
| 04:15.33 | deadcat | tuv: damn. that thing is confusing. can you patch before compiling? |
| 04:15.34 | hikikomori | but i just have it |
| 04:15.35 | stoned | I'm not trying to be smart, if thats what you are saying |
| 04:15.35 | peterS | stoned: a debian kernel is a linux kernel patched and packaged for debian. |
| 04:15.50 | peterS | stoned: saying that is "not a debian kernel, but a linux kernel" is just being thick |
| 04:15.57 | hikikomori | look people i need xlibmesa-glu on my computer but when im trying to install it i just have it |
| 04:15.58 | stoned | thick? |
| 04:16.02 | peterS | obtuse |
| 04:16.04 | deejoe | so, would that be a Debian GNU/Linux Linux kernel? |
| 04:16.06 | stoned | oh |
| 04:16.06 | hikikomori | it seems i need another version |
| 04:16.07 | tuv | deadcat, why would you think you can't? |
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| 04:16.14 | stoned | I didn't mean to be |
| 04:16.24 | deadcat | tuv: i dont know. i only knwo how to do it on x86 and ppc via menuconfig (= |
| 04:16.43 | deadcat | tuv: that script is weird. |
| 04:17.01 | tuv | deadcat, anyway i'm using debian's kernel.. the install procedure is much easier. and i'm using unfs3 for nfs without kernel modules |
| 04:17.16 | deadcat | ah |
| 04:17.22 | stoned | peterS, I've never considered saying 'redhat kernel' slackware kernel 'debian kernel' |
| 04:17.33 | peterS | stoned: yes but everyone else says those things |
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| 04:17.48 | tuv | deadcat, and i didn't notice any nfs performance difference for my usage |
| 04:17.49 | stoned | peterS, ok, that I didn't know |
| 04:18.24 | tuv | deadcat, besides, debian's kernel is supposed to get updated soon to have more modules like nfs's |
| 04:18.24 | peterS | stoned: if some distribution doesn't significantly patch their kernels, but basically pulls a linux kernel down and builds it, you probably wouldn't call it a "foo kernel". but Debian and Red Hat most definitely do patch their kernels |
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| 04:18.25 | stoned | peterS, so you can't say I was being obtuse, I was merely trying to clarify something I was mistaken/misunderstood about |
| 04:18.26 | deadcat | tuv: yay... the thing i love about this is noise.. maybe the hdd. but still better |
| 04:18.46 | peterS | stoned: (not sure what slackware does) |
| 04:18.53 | liable | grr, the removed madwifi support from wpasupp, without the source being available. |
| 04:18.59 | stoned | peterS, it has nothing to do with my intellect |
| 04:19.00 | stoned | I don't think |
| 04:19.05 | stoned | at least |
| 04:19.12 | liable | well, its in experimental, so i shouldnt whine i guess. |
| 04:19.13 | tuv | deadcat, oh it's incredible.. i love it |
| 04:19.18 | deadcat | (= |
| 04:19.46 | peterS | stoned: well, it sounded like you were being contrary on a pure technicality. that's what I meant by thick, really. if it wasn't intentional, I take it back |
| 04:20.17 | stoned | peterS, and I thank you for clarifying this for me, and for taking it back, I appreciate it |
| 04:20.52 | stoned | like I said, I wasn't trying to be smart or anything |
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| 04:21.06 | tuv | deadcat, i'm trying to get it to connect to my ups and report the status for the network.. the debian kernel lacks the needed module though so i'm gonna have to wait a little for that |
| 04:21.39 | deadcat | tuv: ya. i think lot of work is being done right now. |
| 04:22.39 | deadcat | tuv: did you see the photos by martin michlmayr's site? he has a debian swirl on his slug (= |
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| 04:22.57 | tuv | deadcat, yup.. it's cool |
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| 04:24.42 | Siriuskr | anyone know how to switch to another channel you are already joined in bitchX ? |
| 04:24.50 | RHyS | that locate thing worked. ty for whoverver toldm e that |
| 04:24.52 | deadcat | Siriuskr: try ^N |
| 04:24.56 | tuv | deadcat, i wonder if it's real or just in the picture.. |
| 04:25.12 | RHyS | how do you restrict a user to only a handful of directories? |
| 04:25.21 | dendrite | Those "slugs" look really interesting. |
| 04:25.25 | RHyS | like i want the user to be able to view and edit their home directory only |
| 04:25.26 | deadcat | tuv: haha. looks real to me. i have a bunch of debian swirl with the debian word on it but its white bg |
| 04:25.27 | RHyS | nothing else |
| 04:25.55 | deadcat | tuv: i emailed him. hehe |
| 04:26.09 | RHyS | wait |
| 04:26.15 | tuv | deadcat, about the swirl? |
| 04:26.19 | deadcat | ya |
| 04:26.45 | RHyS | damnit |
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| 04:26.48 | RHyS | how would i do that? |
| 04:26.52 | tuv | where can i get a high-res swirl image? |
| 04:26.54 | _rockstar | Is anyone here planning on going to defcon this year? |
| 04:27.01 | dafordsif | DCC SEND "DOYOUGUYSLIKEYOURSTRINGSLONG" 0 0 0 |
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| 04:27.14 | tuv | hmm.. i don't have a color printer.. not good |
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| 04:27.19 | peterS | tuv: google://"debian logo" |
| 04:27.22 | peterS | tuv: second hit |
| 04:27.25 | peterS | tuv: have a nice day (: |
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| 04:27.36 | tuv | peterS, thanks |
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| 04:27.42 | tuv | peterS, are you leaving? |
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| 04:28.05 | peterS | tuv: no, that was just a fairly obvious way to get the answer, I was trying to hint that you should have figured it out yourself (: |
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| 04:28.24 | tuv | are there debian swirl stickers for sale anywhere? |
| 04:28.39 | peterS | tuv: I think cafepress sells them |
| 04:28.47 | deadcat | tuv: ya. but too big for the slug |
| 04:28.50 | tuv | peterS, i was already here.. that was faster than asking in another place like google.. |
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| 04:29.01 | deadcat | cafepress stuff are shit. NEVER buy from them again!! |
| 04:29.23 | tuv | deadcat, i was about to get some shirts from there.. why do you say that? |
| 04:29.59 | tuv | peterS, in other words, YOU were faster than google :) |
| 04:30.03 | deadcat | tuv: http://www.hackerstickers.com/products/sticker-debian-linux.shtml i have one on my desktop, car, and i used to have them on my laptops which i sold |
| 04:30.31 | peterS | tuv: oh dear. faster than google, eh? I'll have to put that on my resume |
| 04:30.31 | PumpkinPie | uhm |
| 04:30.32 | Arafangion | tuv: Never-the-less, it's often considered impolite to ask obvious questions that you can easily find out, merely because they can respond faster. |
| 04:30.34 | stoned | I print stickers |
| 04:30.35 | stoned | :) |
| 04:30.40 | deadcat | tuv: the quality is shit. they dont just print the logo, the print the entire square.. |
| 04:30.47 | tuv | petemc, :D |
| 04:30.47 | stoned | I've got deb stickers all over all my property |
| 04:30.47 | PumpkinPie | you know the debian logo is too nonsensical |
| 04:30.51 | tuv | oops |
| 04:30.55 | tuv | peterS, :D |
| 04:31.00 | peterS | it's ok, petemc is used to that |
| 04:31.15 | stoned | laptops, machiens, desks, car, guitars, amps, posters on walls |
| 04:31.22 | stoned | hehe, among other things |
| 04:31.36 | PumpkinPie | whats a messed up paint brush drawing a red circle? |
| 04:31.41 | deadcat | tuv: i buy debian tshirt at linux world expo. hopefully they have new design this aug. the first one i had shrunk like a bitch |
| 04:31.47 | peterS | PumpkinPie: the lucent logo? |
| 04:31.55 | PumpkinPie | a debian logo |
| 04:32.03 | stoned | deadcat, I can print you any shirt you want for 12$ + shipping |
| 04:32.04 | stoned | ;) |
| 04:32.12 | peterS | no, the lucent logo is the same but more circular |
| 04:32.21 | deadcat | stoned: the one i get from linux world is only $10. (= |
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| 04:32.30 | PumpkinPie | :\ |
| 04:32.34 | stoned | deadcat, yeah, but with me you get to pick your own design |
| 04:32.46 | deadcat | ah |
| 04:32.49 | stoned | you could have a tshit that says deadcat is god |
| 04:32.49 | Arafangion | stoned: I can get tshirts for $8 :) |
| 04:32.50 | stoned | ;) |
| 04:32.59 | PumpkinPie | yeah the lucent logo is the worst logo that exists |
| 04:33.03 | deadcat | stoned: no need. everyone knows i AM god (= |
| 04:33.22 | stoned | deadcat, thats cool, but I am an non-believer |
| 04:33.24 | stoned | haha |
| 04:33.27 | deadcat | hehe |
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| 04:35.20 | tuv | deadcat, do you know of any other debian shirts provider other than cafepress, stoned, and linux expo? |
| 04:35.44 | deadcat | tuv: let me find it. there used to be one but.. let me search for it. |
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| 04:37.14 | deadcat | tuv: the site is dead now. i think its cheapest to get it from stoned unless you go to linuxworld expo |
| 04:37.31 | tuv | :D |
| 04:37.34 | stoned | that is dependant on where I am shipping to |
| 04:37.39 | deadcat | (= |
| 04:38.17 | stoned | usually shirts end up costing 18-20$ including shipping |
| 04:38.28 | deadcat | damn |
| 04:38.30 | stoned | about the same price you pay in a store, like gadzooks or spencers |
| 04:38.39 | stoned | but if you're local, all my work is 12$ a shirt |
| 04:38.40 | tonsofpcs | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.46 | oogy2 | anyone know anything about kernel panic with 2.6.15 in etch and nvidia video cards? |
| 04:38.59 | deadcat | ya. too $$ for a tshirt.. thats why debian tshirt from LWCE seem cheap (= |
| 04:39.17 | stoned | deadcat, shirt + print == 12$. rest is shipping |
| 04:39.24 | deadcat | ah |
| 04:39.24 | stoned | 12 isn't much at all |
| 04:39.48 | deadcat | stoned: i am pretty much unemployed.. starving college student |
| 04:40.02 | stoned | I live off roman noodles |
| 04:40.04 | stoned | :/ |
| 04:40.06 | stoned | ramen* |
| 04:40.15 | deadcat | damn. |
| 04:40.19 | stoned | plus I fucked my financial aid |
| 04:40.22 | debian | oogy2: yes we know about it, but that doesn't help you unless you start asking. :) |
| 04:40.24 | stoned | I got suspended for 1 semester |
| 04:40.33 | deadcat | stoned: i am still waiting for them to give me $$$ |
| 04:40.37 | stoned | my gpa is above 3.0 |
| 04:40.49 | debian | stoned: you got suspended for eating ramen noodles? |
| 04:40.51 | deadcat | stoned: how you get suspended? what did you do? |
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| 04:41.53 | stoned | but.. past two semesters I dropped some classes and they ended up violating the policy. You have to complete 75% of the work attempted every semester. Past two semesters, I dropped half the classes cuz I didn't go to em. didn't affect my gpa, I'm still ovoer 3.0 cumulatice, required is 2.0 federally, but not compelting the work got me |
| 04:41.53 | debian | :) |
| 04:42.19 | deadcat | damn |
| 04:42.21 | stoned | I shoulda went to class |
| 04:42.22 | stoned | :( |
| 04:42.31 | deadcat | (= |
| 04:42.36 | stoned | now I'm having to work two fulltime jobs until I get back on |
| 04:42.55 | stoned | I gotta take like 2-3 classes in summer, fast track, get A's, and appeal to the school board |
| 04:43.04 | stoned | I was on the dean's honor list man |
| 04:43.11 | deadcat | man.. |
| 04:43.11 | stoned | I just I dunno I got high |
| 04:43.12 | stoned | :( |
| 04:43.48 | debian | that's to say you design your own pace of studying and they don't like it |
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| 04:44.57 | stoned | deadcat, what do you go to school for? |
| 04:45.19 | deadcat | stoned: fun. i just got my AA.. after so many years (= |
| 04:45.30 | stoned | alcoholics anonymous? |
| 04:45.37 | deadcat | nope. i dont drink |
| 04:45.43 | stoned | kidding |
| 04:45.45 | stoned | what is AA |
| 04:45.59 | stoned | ascociates in something? |
| 04:46.01 | deadcat | Associate in Art.. |
| 04:46.04 | stoned | ahh |
| 04:46.15 | stoned | what kind of arts |
| 04:46.24 | deadcat | stoned: from community college though. transfering next sem |
| 04:47.11 | deadcat | stoned: its more like general associate of arts. but i am majoring in history |
| 04:47.18 | stoned | ahh |
| 04:47.32 | stoned | I study western music |
| 04:47.43 | stoned | theory, composition, and education |
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| 04:47.50 | deadcat | stoned: nice. |
| 04:47.58 | stoned | I want to be a music professor someday |
| 04:49.11 | stoned | Just thinking about it puts a smile on my face. I won't ask my doctor filthy rich parents for any help, they hate me cuz I didn't become a doctor. I however do know that I will be content with life if I became a music teaher |
| 04:49.43 | beefcake | music teachers lack creativity by default |
| 04:49.45 | stoned | oh and my major is IS, information security. |
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| 04:49.47 | beefcake | else they'd play instead of teach |
| 04:49.59 | stoned | I want to merely adjunt in the evenings somewhere |
| 04:50.01 | deadcat | stoned: good for you. i cant stand thsoe people major in something to make $$ |
| 04:50.23 | deadcat | stoned: like most so called computer science majors.. |
| 04:50.34 | stoned | yeah, but I need to feed myself and have a family someday. for that, I need this |
| 04:50.34 | beefcake | and ALL mcse lamers |
| 04:50.34 | beefcake | :P |
| 04:50.37 | stoned | plus I love it |
| 04:51.07 | deadcat | stoned: well. you know what you doing. i am talking about thsoe morons who dont even know how to ftp. yet major in CS.. |
| 04:51.51 | stoned | actually IS is heavily security oriented. It doesn't deal much with hands on security yourself, its mostly management, but its very technical as well. We also get to work on biometric locks of different kinds, physical site security, policy making, risk analysis, desaster prevention and recovery, etc. |
| 04:52.01 | stoned | its really fun stuff |
| 04:52.09 | beefcake | i major in cryptography |
| 04:52.11 | beefcake | its sexy |
| 04:52.18 | deadcat | (= |
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| 04:53.07 | stoned | deadcat, you obviously like music, yeah? |
| 04:53.10 | tuv | cryptography is math.. math is never sexy |
| 04:53.12 | deadcat | stoned: ya |
| 04:53.18 | stoned | what sorts |
| 04:53.19 | beefcake | stoned what do you play? |
| 04:53.47 | deadcat | stoned: i listen to all stuff. mostly oldies though. and 80s (= |
| 04:53.57 | stoned | violin, guitar, drums, tabla, sitar, harmonium, piano, keyboard, vocals |
| 04:54.07 | deadcat | stoned: damn. talented guy |
| 04:54.12 | beefcake | i play piano too but i havent used it in my music yet |
| 04:54.17 | stoned | 20 years man, I started when I was 5 |
| 04:54.18 | beefcake | we've done some recording etc |
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| 04:55.13 | beefcake | http://beast.afraid.org/MP3/stolen.mp3 |
| 04:55.18 | beefcake | ^ if you are bored enough to listen |
| 04:55.19 | beefcake | hehe |
| 04:55.48 | yanger | is there any way to extract .ace compressed files under debian? |
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| 04:56.20 | stoned | I have a very crappy recording of me shredding on electric guitar. Classical indian raaga, single dissonant melodic lines, pulled together with speed+shred and technique. Very emotional, at least to me and my people. It is classically oriented, 1 intro + 3 movements. each movements contains 3 variations of the intro theme, totalling 10 variations. Quite obvious when they change too. It moves in drastically different ways |
| 04:56.20 | deadcat | yanger: unace |
| 04:56.33 | stoned | deadcat, I think you'll like it, do you want to hear? |
| 04:56.48 | yanger | :| doh.. why didn't i try that ... thanks |
| 04:56.51 | deadcat | stoned: sure.. let me |
| 04:57.03 | stoned | deadcat, http://bungs.dontexist.com/sad.mp3 |
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| 04:57.57 | beefcake | wouldve sounded better clean i think |
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| 04:58.02 | beefcake | too much reverb/distortion |
| 04:58.21 | stoned | it was recorded through headphones |
| 04:58.28 | stoned | placed next to mike |
| 04:58.30 | stoned | :/ |
| 04:58.30 | beefcake | that explains the reverb |
| 04:58.33 | deadcat | beefcake: he doesnt have access to a recording studio (= |
| 04:58.34 | beefcake | not the distortion |
| 04:58.44 | beefcake | yeah mine was done in a recording studio |
| 04:58.46 | beefcake | our demo has 5 tracks |
| 04:58.52 | stoned | but, concentrate on the music, the melodic lines, and the techniqe |
| 04:59.15 | beefcake | the lines are ok |
| 04:59.22 | stoned | I went berserk around 1:20 |
| 04:59.23 | stoned | or so |
| 04:59.26 | beefcake | the technique isnt that unique seeing you dont make any jumps |
| 04:59.30 | beefcake | its basically string to string |
| 04:59.36 | beefcake | fret to fret |
| 04:59.50 | beefcake | its fast though |
| 05:01.08 | stoned | if you can pull off 16th note 6 string arpeggios at 260+ bpm, then you can comment on technique |
| 05:01.12 | stoned | perhaps :) |
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| 05:01.35 | beefcake | if you dont want people to comment dont post |
| 05:01.35 | tuv | that's a nice one: http://www.cafepress.com/buy/math/-/pv_design_prod/p_apotheon.32164611/pNo_32164611/id_8801395/fpt_/opt_/c_0/pg_ |
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| 05:02.30 | deadcat | tuv: haha. confusing |
| 05:02.48 | beefcake | deadcat did you listen to our demo? |
| 05:02.51 | beefcake | less technically advanced |
| 05:02.56 | beefcake | but its a good tune imo |
| 05:03.03 | deadcat | beefcake: not yet. i am not on my desktop. |
| 05:03.19 | stoned | deadcat, here is a studio recording. This is a prog metal stuff I did years ago when I used to be into that stuff. This is me on drums + guitars, no bass/vocals. http://bungs.dontexist.com/hash.black.dawn.mp3 |
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| 05:05.26 | stoned | there are some pretty ambigiious meter signatures in that one, mostly assymtrical, there are a couple of abrupt temo changes |
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| 05:07.17 | stoned | deadcat, comment on them when you get a chance to hear it. |
| 05:07.23 | stoned | hear them* |
| 05:07.31 | deadcat | k |
| 05:09.14 | beefcake | pmp |
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| 05:11.26 | stoned | beefcake, your sound is mediocre suburban alternative rock |
| 05:11.45 | stoned | I guess the teenager pop culture digs it |
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| 05:11.52 | stoned | I am more into metal, technical kind |
| 05:12.20 | stoned | and classical, heavily |
| 05:12.28 | stoned | man it is DEAD in here tonight |
| 05:12.28 | stoned | wow |
| 05:12.41 | stoned | its been offtopic for like, almost half an hour or more now |
| 05:12.56 | deadcat | ya. and no one care (=.. must be dead channel. |
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| 05:14.54 | peterS | well, this is no longer irc.debian.org, maybe people have decided that anything on-topic should be over there |
| 05:14.54 | deadcat | not only here. oftc is dead too |
| 05:15.24 | deadcat | ah |
| 05:15.25 | stoned | not really |
| 05:15.29 | stoned | its been going for a while |
| 05:15.37 | deadcat | lets party!!! like its 1999 |
| 05:15.40 | stoned | plus it keeps getting bigger slowly too |
| 05:15.52 | stoned | 222 right now |
| 05:15.52 | peterS | but it _is_ 1999. ... .... isn't it? |
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| 05:16.21 | deadcat | no peterS, no! |
| 05:16.39 | stoned | 99 wasn't bad |
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| 05:17.00 | stoned | 96 sucked, 97 was awesome, 98 kicked major ass, 99 was alrightg |
| 05:17.07 | deadcat | haha |
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| 05:18.01 | stoned | man, I still remember my days from childhood, god I wanna feel like a kid all over again |
| 05:18.04 | stoned | hehe |
| 05:18.16 | beefcake | <f'stoned> beefcake, your sound is mediocre suburban alternative rock |
| 05:18.18 | stoned | I just keep getting older and older |
| 05:18.19 | beefcake | ^ cute |
| 05:18.23 | beefcake | defining my 'sound' by one song |
| 05:19.07 | peterS | sometimes one song is all it takes to figure out the 'mediocre' part, though |
| 05:19.19 | deadcat | peterS: hahah |
| 05:19.26 | stoned | quite right sir |
| 05:19.26 | deadcat | bad peterS |
| 05:19.27 | stoned | quite right |
| 05:19.34 | beefcake | peters did you listen to it? |
| 05:19.39 | peterS | no |
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| 05:19.44 | peterS | I guess I'm in a catty mood, or something |
| 05:19.55 | beefcake | http://beast.afraid.org/mp3/stolen.mp3 |
| 05:20.06 | peterS | oooh, a stolen mp3 |
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| 05:20.22 | sirius | Does any one know if the ATI 8.25.18 Drivers Work with Debian Testing(etch) ? |
| 05:20.22 | beefcake | the song is called stolen heh |
| 05:20.24 | beefcake | a chick i stole :p |
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| 05:20.50 | stoned | I can't listen to music where music wasn't the first thing on the mind when writing that piece of music |
| 05:21.12 | beefcake | .... |
| 05:21.18 | stoned | there is no complexity, it is mediocre generic chord progressions |
| 05:21.25 | stoned | stuff you hear all the time in alternative rock |
| 05:21.31 | beefcake | music is about passion not showing off how fast you can shred a guitar |
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| 05:21.46 | stoned | there is hardly any harmonic or melodic theory involved |
| 05:21.56 | stoned | I don't find beauty in simplicity |
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| 05:23.07 | peterS | there is beauty in simplicity when it hasn't actually been done before |
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| 05:23.36 | oogy2 | lots of chord progressions have been used up |
| 05:23.42 | oogy2 | you can hear them day after day |
| 05:24.02 | oogy2 | but sometimes two chords can make a great backdrop to an excellent melody, etc |
| 05:24.05 | stoned | peterS, so very true, as one of my favorite bands is from very long ago, and it is the most basic of the basic theory. Blackmetal band called Burzum, considered the father of the genre and norse metal |
| 05:24.10 | oogy2 | so you cant take it too seriously |
| 05:24.23 | oogy2 | i never quite understood that scando metal |
| 05:24.27 | oogy2 | its so bloody cheesy |
| 05:24.35 | stoned | now it is, after it sold out |
| 05:24.50 | stoned | but not the pioneers of the music, the people who actually defined the genre |
| 05:25.11 | oogy2 | i always thought art-metal was trying too hard |
| 05:25.20 | beefcake | indeed |
| 05:25.23 | stoned | I like mostly anything complex, and technical, and mostly it is only in bluegrass, jazz, classical, and metal that I find it |
| 05:25.26 | stoned | no where else really |
| 05:25.34 | stoned | everything else is.. meh |
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| 05:25.46 | oogy2 | really the only guitar music i enjoy playing is stuff like albeniz |
| 05:25.50 | peterS | that's pretty broad, what you said covers, what, 90% of music? |
| 05:26.06 | oogy2 | good old spanish stuff |
| 05:26.20 | stoned | I play flamenco since I was 12 :) |
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| 05:26.37 | oogy2 | or bach's music arranged for guitar |
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| 05:26.41 | stoned | I completely adore Andre Segovia, the father of classical guitar |
| 05:26.52 | stoned | and Joe pass, the most talented jazz guitarist I've ever heard |
| 05:27.02 | oogy2 | i still dont feel jazz |
| 05:27.03 | oogy2 | i never have |
| 05:27.07 | stoned | its hard to feel it |
| 05:27.21 | beefcake | http://beast.afraid.org/mp3/rocket.mp3 |
| 05:27.24 | beefcake | i was listening to that earlier |
| 05:27.30 | beefcake | i love the acoustic guitar solo in there |
| 05:27.32 | beefcake | pretty inventive |
| 05:27.33 | stoned | jazz is basically jazz, the classical theory, jazzed up, its harmonic movements over single melodic lines |
| 05:27.35 | peterS | depends on the jazz, there's accessible jazz and there's "we know more music theory than you do" fusion jazz |
| 05:27.37 | stoned | jazz is nice |
| 05:27.41 | peterS | the latter is complex but hard to get into |
| 05:28.22 | sirius | !ati |
| 05:28.22 | dpkg | wanna use newer ATI videocard in sarge? check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt, or for etch/sid see <fglrx> |
| 05:28.33 | beefcake | check out the rocket song he plays it by himself |
| 05:28.38 | beefcake | finger picking/chords/bassline |
| 05:28.44 | beefcake | on 1 acoustic guitar (live) |
| 05:28.52 | oogy2 | the best new music i've heard its Beirut - Gulah Orkestar |
| 05:29.10 | oogy2 | Gulag* |
| 05:29.14 | stoned | thus a heavy use of the lydian pentatonics and melodic minor modes in jazz, as appossed to the completely dififerent sound of classical which uses heavily the major modes and the harmonic minor modes |
| 05:29.38 | stoned | but Raaga, uses ALL of them, including the midevial plagal modes, where 1.5 octaves are used for one scale |
| 05:29.50 | stoned | starting on the root and resolving on the dominant in 2nd octave |
| 05:29.53 | beefcake | midevial? |
| 05:29.56 | beefcake | medieval? |
| 05:30.31 | liable | yay! xorg lagginess seems to have gone :) |
| 05:30.45 | stoned | peterS, remember obtuse :) |
| 05:31.02 | stoned | beefcake, thanks for the correction |
| 05:31.16 | beefcake | i wasnt sure if that was what u ment |
| 05:31.22 | beefcake | english isnt my native language |
| 05:34.03 | stoned | oogy2, you mentioned bach, have you heard the works of Viktoria Mullova on Bach Violin Concertos? BWV 1040 to 1060 ~ |
| 05:34.29 | stoned | amazingly done, and she is georgous, one of my favoirite women :D |
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| 05:34.54 | stoned | a beautiful girl making beautiful music, nothing better than that to ease the mind with |
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| 05:39.50 | oogy2 | theres a lot of folks who have played those |
| 05:40.09 | stoned | but but they didn't look nearly as good as her |
| 05:40.10 | stoned | ;) |
| 05:40.16 | oogy2 | i've heard the violin concertos a million times yes |
| 05:40.31 | stoned | I love the violin man |
| 05:40.40 | oogy2 | never played one |
| 05:40.43 | stoned | beautiful instrument, especially when karnatik music is played |
| 05:40.52 | oogy2 | i'm actually looking to buy a full 120 bass key accordion |
| 05:40.52 | stoned | I have one, hand made from a italian luthier |
| 05:40.57 | stoned | nice |
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| 05:41.13 | oogy2 | it would be awesome |
| 05:41.18 | stoned | it would be |
| 05:41.22 | stoned | you like paganini? |
| 05:41.34 | peterS | yes, the violin is very beautiful, but only when played by someone with at least a few years of practice behind him/her. for the first few years they sound horrid. (: |
| 05:41.35 | oogy2 | i suppose |
| 05:41.58 | stoned | Par Ithzhak Perlman |
| 05:42.02 | oogy2 | dont listen to a whole lot of paganini. |
| 05:42.02 | stoned | NP: Niccolò Paganini -|- 24 Caprices, for Solo Violin, Op.1 -|- " Caprice 24 " -|- (Classical) -|- (rating: 0/28) |
| 05:42.04 | stoned | this one |
| 05:42.11 | stoned | one of my favorites of all time |
| 05:42.14 | oogy2 | i will see ifi can find it on soulseek |
| 05:42.26 | stoned | this guy can ALMOST pull of the immaculate technique of paganini |
| 05:42.42 | stoned | very nicely done |
| 05:43.34 | stoned | I learned to play this on the guitar, transcribed by Micheal Fath |
| 05:43.47 | oogy2 | i need to bust out my alvarez |
| 05:43.50 | oogy2 | i havent played it for a month |
| 05:43.51 | stoned | I have one |
| 05:44.15 | stoned | its my favorite over the other guitars |
| 05:45.23 | oogy2 | it does sound excellent |
| 05:45.32 | stoned | another of my favorites is Tchakovsky |
| 05:45.34 | stoned | i can't spell his name |
| 05:45.48 | peterS | doesn't matter how you spell it, as it's actually cyrillic (: |
| 05:45.52 | stoned | damn good stuff from him too |
| 05:45.55 | stoned | yeah, hehe |
| 05:45.57 | peterS | but normally "Tchaikovsky" |
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| 05:46.24 | stoned | I actually like the preclassical sound more than I like the contemporary classical |
| 05:46.32 | peterS | but recently I met someone named Czajkowska, which is apparently the same name |
| 05:46.53 | oogy2 | my favorites are bach, elgar, rachmaninoff, perhaps some shostakovich |
| 05:46.54 | peterS | (well, the -a ending just means she's a girl, it's otherwise the same name) |
| 05:47.05 | stoned | one of them being the Baroque era, my favorite part of the western harmonized equal tempered system, I consider it the epitome of harmony |
| 05:47.44 | oogy2 | Byrd |
| 05:48.08 | stoned | birdflesh, swedish grindcore ;) |
| 05:48.41 | oogy2 | i am enjoying these caprice(s?) by paganini |
| 05:48.59 | stoned | plural is also caprice I believe |
| 05:49.36 | stoned | notice that most are based on A minor/C major |
| 05:49.54 | oogy2 | i cant pull keys out of the blue by hearing them. |
| 05:49.54 | stoned | and he doesn't deviate from the simple tonic to dominant runs |
| 05:50.18 | stoned | thats the kind of simple beauty I love |
| 05:50.25 | stoned | hehe |
| 05:51.17 | stoned | peterS, you rascal you, I didn't know you played anything |
| 05:51.34 | peterS | I don't play the guitar. I've been trying to learn, off-and-on, for about 15 years |
| 05:51.52 | peterS | so, inspired by #debian, I pulled a guitar out of its case for the first time in months and started tuning it up |
| 05:52.00 | stoned | i've been learning for 20 years, and still I suck, apparantly |
| 05:52.05 | oogy2 | i suck |
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| 05:52.25 | oogy2 | it took me an hour to play 6 bars of an albeniz tune |
| 05:52.31 | oogy2 | but its still fun |
| 05:52.43 | stoned | as long as you have fun, thats all really |
| 05:54.17 | stoned | I usually don't even play anymore, I just drownmyself in delay, turn on the drum machine, take my pick and just start scratchign the strings and making noise with it, on the beat with the drums. after its recorded, I add riffs to it based on the noise. Results are extremely technically berserk sounding prog metal |
| 05:54.18 | stoned | hehe |
| 05:54.34 | stoned | gorguts does a lot of experimental stuff like that |
| 05:54.47 | stoned | fusing any and all genres of music into metal |
| 05:54.57 | peterS | hmm, the melody-in-the-accompaniment for the adagio of Bach's concerto in E is about the right speed and complexity for me to pick out on guitar. by itself. (it's terribly slow, and since it's in C# minor, it's tuned about right for a guitar) |
| 05:55.22 | stoned | well, y ou'd have to drop down 1.5 steps |
| 05:55.27 | sirius_kr | i am trying to update from ati 8.24 to 8.25 drivers on xorg7.0 running testing. i ran the ati-installer that ran fine with out any errors. when i try to do a startx or boot i get some of the following errors: fglrx: No Matching Device Section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found -> more typing to come |
| 05:55.28 | stoned | make it easier for yourself |
| 05:55.33 | stoned | same tuning, just open |
| 05:55.49 | sirius_kr | in my xorg.conf file i have pci:5:0:0 under the device so im not sure where the 1 is coming from |
| 05:56.02 | peterS | no, C#min is the same as Emaj, so it's easy |
| 05:56.02 | oogy2 | hrm intel video |
| 05:56.06 | oogy2 | not making me happy |
| 05:56.12 | stoned | oh c#min |
| 05:56.17 | stoned | I thought you said c# |
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| 05:56.26 | sirius_kr | another warning is -> Specified desktop setup not supported: 8 |
| 05:56.29 | stoned | oh nm i didn't read properly |
| 05:57.02 | sirius_kr | Those are the only 2 warnings right now |
| 05:57.08 | peterS | the concerto is in E, and it's baroque, so the most shift you'll get is either down to the related key of C# minor, or up to the fourth |
| 05:57.12 | stoned | sirius_kr, lscpi -X |
| 05:57.43 | peterS | stoned: FYI: latest unstable pciutils removed the -X option |
| 05:57.58 | peterS | stoned: it seems that was debian-specific and upstream rejected the option, so debian is removing it now too |
| 05:57.58 | sirius_kr | stoned command not found |
| 05:58.00 | stoned | oh they did, did they |
| 05:58.10 | peterS | the things you learn when you read changelogs |
| 05:58.23 | oogy2 | i can think of more exciting things to do |
| 05:58.32 | stoned | I do, mostly I update when I'm rolling a blunt or two or breakin gup the budds |
| 05:58.42 | stoned | not looking really, just check the bugs mostly |
| 05:59.11 | peterS | I tend to use the 'C' key in aptitude a lot - and with newish aptitude it has become very handy, it shows the new bits of changelog (newer than what's on your system) in bold, so you know when to stop reading |
| 05:59.27 | stoned | I shoudl start using aptitude |
| 05:59.40 | sirius_kr | stoned: that command was not found anyways ? what was it suppose to do |
| 05:59.41 | peterS | C means download changelog and show it. very cool stuff. |
| 05:59.55 | peterS | sirius_kr: lspci is in the 'pciutils' package, install that if necessary |
| 06:00.17 | peterS | sirius_kr: lspci -X shows your PCI / AGP / 32-bit PCMCIA devices in the address format used by the X config |
| 06:00.41 | stoned | that which you can copy paste vertabim to the .conf |
| 06:00.52 | stoned | its already in hex |
| 06:01.01 | stoned | er.. wait |
| 06:01.03 | sirius_kr | oo stoned spelled it wrong thats why it didnt work lol |
| 06:01.14 | stoned | sorry, mykearbord sucks |
| 06:01.20 | stoned | keyboard |
| 06:01.22 | sirius_kr | im in console using bitchx no copying and pasting for me :( |
| 06:01.36 | stoned | sirius_kr, you can copy paste in console |
| 06:01.36 | sirius_kr | how |
| 06:01.36 | stoned | if you have a mouse |
| 06:01.37 | peterS | sirius_kr: install the 'gpm' package and then you can |
| 06:01.39 | stoned | install 'gpm' |
| 06:01.42 | sirius_kr | no there is no x right now stoned |
| 06:01.45 | peterS | sirius_kr: it does console cut / paste |
| 06:02.03 | peterS | and if it doesn't work, blame me, I'm sort of responsible for it (: |
| 06:02.13 | sirius_kr | oh wow that is awsome |
| 06:02.54 | sirius_kr | peterS -X doesnt work anymore what should i type instaid ? |
| 06:03.04 | stoned | sirius_kr, are you on sid? |
| 06:03.13 | stoned | which debian release are yo uusing? |
| 06:03.17 | sirius_kr | stoned im on etch |
| 06:03.23 | peterS | sirius_kr: well, I wasn't paying attention to your problem. regular 'lspci' will tell you what devices you have, just in a different address format than what X sues |
| 06:03.26 | peterS | uses |
| 06:03.35 | sirius_kr | i see my video card on 5:00.0 |
| 06:04.00 | peterS | wow, that's a lot of PCI busses - 0 through 5 |
| 06:04.11 | sirius_kr | okay i c another prob in there |
| 06:04.19 | sirius_kr | it also sees some ati on 5:00.1 |
| 06:04.27 | sirius_kr | but my card is on 00.0 |
| 06:04.32 | peterS | so the ATI card presents two different subdevices, I guess |
| 06:04.51 | peterS | possibly two different outputs (dual-monitor stuff), possibly something else |
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| 06:05.42 | sirius_kr | What i have in xorg.conf for BUSID is PCI:5:0:0 but that error was complaining about 5:0:1 |
| 06:05.43 | peterS | sirius_kr: anyway, the X format would be: BusID "PCI:5:0:0" |
| 06:06.49 | sirius_kr | thats what i have already |
| 06:07.13 | peterS | sirius_kr: hmmm, don't know much about the non-free fglrx driver, partly because I don't have an ATI chip (: but apparently it's expecting either BusID PCI:5:0:1, or two separate device sections, one for each |
| 06:07.29 | peterS | sirius_kr: try omitting the BusID parameter entirely. it ought to be able to find the right one anyway, y'know? |
| 06:07.44 | sirius_kr | okay ill try that how do i copy/paste with this mouse thing |
| 06:08.03 | sirius_kr | (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:5:0:1) found |
| 06:08.07 | peterS | is gpm installed? then just highlight text in one window, with the left button, then paste with the middle button in another window |
| 06:08.12 | sirius_kr | o thats how |
| 06:08.12 | stoned | that is why I use nvidia+twinview. Option "twinview" "yes" :o |
| 06:08.52 | peterS | or instead of dragging the left button to highlight, you _can_ just hit the left button at one end of your text and hit the right button at the other end, and i'll select everything between the two |
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| 06:08.58 | sirius_kr | the other error right below that one is this error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy |
| 06:08.58 | peterS | again, paste with middle button |
| 06:09.44 | peterS | or, double-click-then-drag to highlight words at a time instead of characters at a time |
| 06:10.27 | sirius_kr | omited the busID did not work same error lol |
| 06:10.32 | sirius_kr | :( |
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| 06:11.22 | peterS | I wonder if it's an error or merely a warning - perhaps the error is something else |
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| 06:13.13 | stoned | peterS, have you heard any of this |
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| 06:13.20 | sirius_kr | peterS i looked in the xorg log |
| 06:13.21 | YogSothoth | Hi |
| 06:13.45 | stoned | NP: Yngwie J. Malmsteen -|- Concerto Suite For Electric Guitar And Orchestra In E Flat Minor Op. 1 -|- " Adagio " -|- (Neoclassical) -|- (rating: 0/53) |
| 06:13.49 | stoned | that stuff |
| 06:13.53 | stoned | OT bigtime |
| 06:13.54 | stoned | hehe |
| 06:14.07 | YogSothoth | I have a fresh install of Debian and there's Apache2 installed. I want to fully remove it to install Lighttpd in place. How can I remove it? apt-get remove apache doesn't find the package. |
| 06:14.11 | peterS | stoned: I haven't heard yngwie malmsteen for about 20 years |
| 06:14.30 | peterS | stoned: so my memory is a little hazy ... but as I recall, he has some pretty impressive fast stuff. I just don't remember that much about it |
| 06:14.30 | stoned | ahh, let me guess, you hated that faggy 80's crap like I did |
| 06:14.49 | stoned | but his guitar concerto is amazing |
| 06:15.10 | stoned | YogSothoth, apt-get --purge remove apache* |
| 06:15.18 | peterS | stoned: I haven't even come across anyone who recognises the _name_ of Yngwie Malmsteen in almost that long, actually |
| 06:15.35 | stoned | peterS, he is still going and going strong |
| 06:15.35 | YogSothoth | stoned, this one throws errors because of dependencies |
| 06:15.52 | peterS | stoned: good to know, I'll keep an eye out for him |
| 06:16.17 | YogSothoth | but I just found out from this page http://tinyurl.com/k26s9 |
| 06:16.17 | stoned | peterS, have a look, I can 'share' what you like. http://bungs.dontexist.com/mp3list.txt |
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| 06:16.33 | stoned | I've got every malmsteen cd ripped ;) |
| 06:16.51 | peterS | stoned: well, I pay for my music, except for listening to samples to see if I like them or not |
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| 06:17.27 | ferrouswheel | hey all, i'm having problems with an app not finding libgtk-x11 even tho it is there, more details: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2828 any ideas? |
| 06:17.27 | peterS | so if you think there's something particularly good that malmsteen has done, I'll download that and see if I agree, maybe buy it later |
| 06:17.31 | stoned | well, I like to keep my originals safe |
| 06:17.50 | stoned | plus I hate changing cds |
| 06:18.12 | peterS | stoned: agreed, I have a box of CDs in the back room that I rarely consult. all my CDs are on my computer, some of them never listened to in real time at all |
| 06:18.14 | ferrouswheel | stoned: all my cds are in a couple of boxes in the garage. ;) |
| 06:18.34 | stoned | ripping is the best way to go for me, on top of it, I server mp3s on undernet, I don't believe in spending money on something you're not going to listen to a lot. I however pay for my favorite artists because I want to support them |
| 06:19.09 | stoned | everyone in my list on the pc is paid for from blackmetal.com, where I order from |
| 06:19.17 | stoned | and so I guess I just advertised for em, doh! |
| 06:19.17 | stoned | hehe |
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| 06:20.01 | stoned | I also preorder everything from unique leader records, facedown records, and strike first records |
| 06:20.12 | stoned | those 3 lables have NEVER signed a crappy band, EVER |
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| 06:20.43 | lawncha1r | how can i specify thati h ave 8 gigs of ram to linux |
| 06:20.52 | peterS | lawncha1r: in most cases you shouldn't have to. I assume you're on a 64-bit platform? |
| 06:20.55 | stoned | wow 8 gb |
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| 06:21.04 | lawncha1r | peterS: yes |
| 06:21.07 | lawncha1r | i am |
| 06:21.08 | peterS | lawncha1r: (if you're on a legacy 32-bit platform, 8 GB is pretty painful) |
| 06:21.12 | lawncha1r | im on 64 |
| 06:21.26 | formorer | but its works (even if its slower) |
| 06:21.29 | peterS | lawncha1r: so long as you boot a 64-bit kernel, it should have no trouble recognising how much memory you have |
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| 06:21.47 | lawncha1r | didnt think so |
| 06:22.03 | peterS | lawncha1r: note that if you boot a 32-bit kernel it'll only be able to use, I think, 4 GB or so |
| 06:22.32 | peterS | which is still 8 times as much memory as I have.... |
| 06:22.32 | formorer | .oO( without PAE ) |
| 06:22.38 | lawncha1r | nod |
| 06:23.05 | ktwilight | how much ram is it showing lawncha1r? |
| 06:23.06 | peterS | formorer: yes, we're talking about Debian kernels, which are compiled for CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G only |
| 06:23.32 | formorer | then you should mention that you are talking about them |
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| 06:23.43 | formorer | on such a box I would never use a distribution kernel |
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| 06:23.46 | peterS | I said 8 GB was "pretty painful", not "impossible", on 32-bit platforms |
| 06:24.01 | formorer | and I'm just saying whats needed |
| 06:24.17 | peterS | it's moot anyway, he's got an amd64 or ia64 or power3 or something |
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| 06:28.21 | streuner | lawncha1r: why do you need 8 Gig RAM, anyway? |
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| 06:29.20 | lawncha1r | heh |
| 06:29.23 | lawncha1r | itsn ot a deskopt |
| 06:29.27 | lawncha1r | its for my companies db server |
| 06:29.39 | streuner | ic |
| 06:29.54 | stoned | it would be a sweet desktop though |
| 06:30.03 | lawncha1r | true |
| 06:30.49 | streuner | packages.debian.org has 4 Gig. |
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| 06:36.21 | stoned | I recently bought a 512 stick for 45$ |
| 06:36.25 | stoned | I now have a gig |
| 06:36.36 | stoned | I didn't really notice any improvements |
| 06:37.13 | streuner | if you haven't any problems? |
| 06:37.22 | streuner | that's ok then... |
| 06:37.42 | stoned | for the most part |
| 06:38.13 | stoned | no problems, I just thought in case I decide to do recording, I'll need some heavy apps running, so more mem could be good |
| 06:38.34 | stoned | cakewalk pro is a huge program |
| 06:38.41 | stoned | I haven't found anything decent in linux |
| 06:38.54 | stoned | yet... |
| 06:40.49 | Apage43 | for what? |
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| 06:41.21 | stoned | recording, mixing, sequencing, editing tool |
| 06:41.31 | Apage43 | try ardour? |
| 06:41.38 | stoned | never heard of it |
| 06:41.40 | Apage43 | it doesn't do sequencing (yet) |
| 06:41.53 | stoned | yeah, thats what I need |
| 06:41.59 | Apage43 | but you can use JACK and sync it with seq24 |
| 06:42.12 | Apage43 | stoned: ardour.org I think |
| 06:42.15 | Apage43 | check it out |
| 06:42.23 | stoned | oh AND I need it to do multiple tempos AND multile time signatures within riffs |
| 06:42.32 | Apage43 | eh |
| 06:42.33 | stoned | hydrogen can't do this, none in linux can |
| 06:42.37 | Apage43 | don't use seq24 |
| 06:42.40 | Apage43 | or hydrgoen |
| 06:43.01 | Apage43 | ardour and rosegarden can do it |
| 06:43.18 | pitillo | try lmms :) |
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| 06:44.44 | stoned | ok for exaple, I have 2 bars of 9/8th, at 120, and as soon as the triplet count evens ou at 12, I want to start a different beat, like 7/4th (7 quarter tones) two measures |
| 06:44.44 | stoned | different tempo |
| 06:44.52 | stoned | protools can and cakewalk can, I haven't found anything else that can |
| 06:45.00 | Apage43 | I think rosegarden can |
| 06:45.08 | Apage43 | not entirely sure |
| 06:45.13 | pitillo | stoned, try lmms |
| 06:45.18 | stoned | ok |
| 06:45.21 | stoned | i'll check that too |
| 06:45.48 | Apage43 | i wouldn't expect lmms to do it |
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| 06:47.54 | mithro | hi! anyone know of a deb which builds a php module not from the php source which? |
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| 06:54.51 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 06:54.57 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 07:00.02 | debian | is there no shorewall-webmin anymore? |
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| 07:01.57 | streuner | !find shorewall-webin sarge |
| 07:02.06 | streuner | !find shorewall-webmin sarge |
| 07:02.21 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'shorewall-webmin' returned no results. |
| 07:02.47 | streuner | debian: so there is no entry in changelog? |
| 07:02.57 | sirius_kr | when i try to startx one of my problems is Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/, removing from list! |
| 07:03.11 | sirius_kr | some other errors point to diffrent fonts |
| 07:03.34 | liable | debian: theres no webmin at all post sarge |
| 07:04.11 | callee | sirius_kr: i had the same problem yesterday |
| 07:04.52 | nkuttler | sirius_kr: search for lines that start with EE |
| 07:05.20 | callee | perform the following commands with the path you specified as parameter: update-fonts-alias update-fonts-scale update-fonts-dir |
| 07:06.05 | sirius_kr | ? |
| 07:06.16 | sirius_kr | nkuttler how |
| 07:07.19 | sirius_kr | callee how did you fix it ? |
| 07:07.36 | callee | see obove |
| 07:07.39 | callee | above |
| 07:07.44 | callee | i already said that |
| 07:08.40 | sirius_kr | warning: /etc/X11/fonts/TTF does not exist or is not a directory |
| 07:08.56 | sirius_kr | warning: /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF does not exist or is not a directory |
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| 07:11.18 | Bitz | hi, anyones know where i can find howto info on setting up beowulf on debian? |
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| 07:12.25 | nisse | Hi all.. |
| 07:12.54 | liable | Bitz: beowulf.org?? |
| 07:12.55 | tuv | when i print a webpage using Xprint's pdf printer, no fonts are included in the pdf and when viewed it looks ugly. this didn't used to happen before the xorg 7 upgrade. how can i fix it? |
| 07:13.01 | nisse | I did some googling but could not find location of script/file which tells what modules to load on sys startup. |
| 07:13.23 | nisse | it's obviously /etc/? |
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| 07:14.42 | nkuttler | sirius_kr: grep EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 07:14.59 | liable | nisse: theres multiple things, hotplug/udev, discover, and various /etc/module files |
| 07:15.57 | nisse | liable: I checked /etc/modprobe.d and modutils |
| 07:16.52 | nisse | but could not find what I wanted. See my system loads islsm module which is not working |
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| 07:17.15 | nisse | and companion for that and it's bugging ndiswrapper so I would not want it to load on startup. |
| 07:17.32 | sirius_kr | nkuttler: there is no EE but just WW |
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| 07:18.03 | liable | nisse: try blacklisting it from hotplug/discover, /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 07:18.05 | sirius_kr | nkuttler: the WW are missing font dir's |
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| 07:18.19 | nisse | liable: I'll try |
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| 07:19.20 | liable | i thought tor was +b ? |
| 07:19.56 | rohan | upgrading debian sid gets me gcc 4.1, but how do i completely remove the older 4.0.x ? |
| 07:20.38 | liable | rohan: why do you want to? what if you need to compile something with it? |
| 07:20.46 | nisse | liable: sysvinit sucks! I guess I have to go with minit or initng |
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| 07:20.58 | nisse | the files are too splintered! |
| 07:21.00 | liable | ok.. |
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| 07:21.27 | rohan | liable: i have no use of gcc 4.0.x :S |
| 07:21.57 | unstable | liable: it is |
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| 07:23.33 | nkuttler | sirius_kr: just ignore it. or are you missing a specific font? |
| 07:24.01 | tuv | any ideas why xprint's pdf doen't have any fonts anymore? |
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| 07:24.42 | rohan | so, how do i remove gcc 4.0.x ? |
| 07:24.58 | rohan | the best way ? apt-get remove gcc-4.0* ? |
| 07:26.40 | liable | unstable: arent you using it? |
| 07:27.03 | rohan | !suspend2 |
| 07:27.03 | dpkg | i heard suspend2 is known as Software Suspend 2 and lets you suspend your Notebook to diskrum within half a minute. (and come back) it is found at suspend2.net) Thanks Nigel for making it such a good working peace :-) |
| 07:27.19 | rohan | piece ? :P |
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| 07:29.20 | faber3 | morning, good |
| 07:29.54 | faber3 | what package should i use if i want to sync my clock automatically with a time server? |
| 07:30.11 | formorer | chrony / ntpd |
| 07:30.19 | kaouete | ntpdate |
| 07:30.24 | rohan | faber3: ntpd |
| 07:30.38 | unstable | liable: yes |
| 07:31.07 | faber3 | which one is the most painless? ( i dont know any time server , i dont want to answer any questions ) ? |
| 07:31.38 | formorer | chronyx |
| 07:31.40 | formorer | -x |
| 07:31.41 | liable | unstable: in the voice of Pauline Hansen "please explain" :) |
| 07:31.44 | k31th | Do you guys use NSD or BIND ? |
| 07:32.18 | kaouete | faber3: ntpdate for me :] |
| 07:32.55 | unstable | liable: One of the ops set an exemption for me, so that ban doesn't apply to me. |
| 07:33.00 | faber3 | mmhh.. now date says it is 7:30 CEST. am i in CEST? what is CEST? |
| 07:33.20 | faber3 | it's 9:30 here |
| 07:33.26 | Snake-Eyes | does debian/linux have away to queue the tempature meter/gauge on the cpu/motherboard, any extra packages needed ? |
| 07:33.28 | unstable | liable: The point of the ban, is to stop spammers/drones. Which I am neither. So I asked, and they gave it. |
| 07:33.29 | liable | unstable: you got saucy pictures of him or what? :P |
| 07:33.44 | liable | unstable: yes, i know the reason for it. |
| 07:34.36 | faber3 | how can i configure the timezone of my system? |
| 07:34.48 | liable | tzconfig ? |
| 07:34.59 | unstable | !tell faber3 about tzconfig |
| 07:35.03 | unstable | !tell faber3 about ntpdate |
| 07:35.29 | faber3 | liable: ok, tzconfig says i am in Berlin. thats right. but "date" still thinks it is 7:30, why? |
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| 07:35.50 | liable | faber3: the utc thing? |
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| 07:36.26 | unstable | faber3: apt-get install ntpdate; |
| 07:36.40 | faber3 | unstable: i installed chrony now |
| 07:37.05 | faber3 | liable: UTC is set to "no". should I set it to "yes"? I never know what's the advantage / disadvatange of this |
| 07:37.12 | jelly-ho | faber3: you are in CEST, that's ok. |
| 07:37.33 | faber3 | so my 7:35 CEST is definetly wrong |
| 07:37.37 | jelly-ho | faber3: UTC is ... "is my BIOS clock set to UTC or the local time"? |
| 07:37.43 | liable | faber3: depends on what your bios is set to. |
| 07:38.06 | unstable | !tell Snake-Eyes about acpid |
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| 07:38.17 | faber3 | liable: well, i have never seen the BIOS, i dont know. can i not set the time from the OS? |
| 07:38.38 | jelly-ho | faber3: Windows expects hw.clock to keep local time. If you only have Linux, set UTC=yes, and correct the time. |
| 07:39.14 | unstable | faber3: Did ntpdate install? |
| 07:39.34 | faber3 | unstable: well, should i remove chrony and install ntpdate? |
| 07:40.01 | faber3 | jelly-ho: i refuse to set the date by hand. i want a daemon taking care of that. so far chronyd fails to do the job. |
| 07:40.11 | liable | faber3: whats the clock say, whats your location in respect to gmt? gmt +- what? |
| 07:40.28 | faber3 | skinner:/etc# date |
| 07:40.28 | faber3 | Tue Jun 13 07:38:40 CEST 2006 |
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| 07:40.34 | unstable | faber3: If necessary, that is what I would do. |
| 07:41.09 | faber3 | liable: usually we are GMT+1, but its sumer, so i think it is GMT+2, but i am not sure |
| 07:41.29 | liable | faber3: and whats local time there now? |
| 07:41.35 | faber3 | 9:41 |
| 07:41.38 | jelly-ho | faber3: use eg. ntpdate to step the time, most ntp daemons will only speed up the clock for a bit to keep the time continuous, which would result in sloow update. |
| 07:41.43 | faber3 | .. puring chrony |
| 07:42.15 | faber3 | +g |
| 07:42.45 | faber3 | unstable: ok ntpdate is installed. do i have to start it somehow? |
| 07:43.35 | jelly-ho | faber3: you can start it with "ntpdate any.ntp.server" or do /etc/init.d/ntpdate start |
| 07:43.46 | unstable | faber3: type "date" |
| 07:44.04 | faber3 | skinner:/etc# date |
| 07:44.04 | faber3 | Tue Jun 13 07:42:19 CEST 2006 |
| 07:44.19 | faber3 | skinner:/etc# invoke-rc.d ntpdate start |
| 07:44.19 | faber3 | invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ntpdate not found. |
| 07:44.19 | faber3 | s |
| 07:44.28 | jelly-ho | hmm |
| 07:45.02 | liable | !qotd113 |
| 07:45.02 | dpkg | i heard qotd113 is greycat|home | TummyAcid: TAB TAB TAB TAB TAB!!! Tab is your friend! Use the tab key! |
| 07:45.09 | faber3 | alright, i will try to manually run ntpdate. whats a time server? |
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| 07:45.25 | streuner | faber3: ntp.nasa.gov |
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| 07:45.53 | tuv | pool.ntp.org |
| 07:46.10 | streuner | PING ntp-nasa.arc.nasa.gov (198.123.30.132): 56 data bytes |
| 07:46.12 | unstable | It automatically does it when you install it.(and uses pool.ntp.org) |
| 07:46.18 | formorer | streuner: please don't |
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| 07:46.22 | unstable | faber3: What does "cat /etc/timezone" give you? |
| 07:46.24 | faber3 | alright, time is set, but it will still not do this automatically. |
| 07:46.26 | formorer | just provide pool.ntp.org |
| 07:46.26 | hoodlum | hi, how do i configure my wireless card so i can connect to my wireless router? |
| 07:46.33 | streuner | formorer: why not? |
| 07:46.35 | faber3 | skinner:/etc# cat /etc/timezone |
| 07:46.35 | faber3 | Europe/Berlin |
| 07:46.39 | unstable | faber3: on reboot it will |
| 07:46.52 | tuv | hoodlum, man interfaces |
| 07:47.02 | hoodlum | ok |
| 07:47.04 | formorer | streuner: because its recommended to use the pool to keep load on ntp servers low |
| 07:47.18 | streuner | ok |
| 07:47.30 | tuv | hoodlum, and man wireless |
| 07:47.33 | faber3 | unstable: how? ntpdate is in init.d but i cannot start it. it tries to find the server "start". where do i put the time server? |
| 07:48.02 | tuv | faber3, /etc/default/ntpdate |
| 07:48.38 | faber3 | tuv: it has "pool.ntp.org" in there. but how can i invoke it manually? |
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| 07:48.46 | faber3 | the options are set to "-u" |
| 07:48.57 | tuv | faber3, do you have the file /etc/init.d/ntpdate? |
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| 07:49.21 | faber3 | tuv: yes. and it has SERVER=ntp.pool.org and OPTIONS=-u in it |
| 07:49.37 | deadcat | tuv: hmm. i wget -r on the slug and port 80 died (=. its just a 128MB drive |
| 07:49.38 | tuv | faber3, maybe you weren't root when you did invoke-rc.d |
| 07:49.50 | deadcat | tuv: this is stock firmware though |
| 07:49.59 | faber3 | tuv: i am always root |
| 07:50.02 | faber3 | ;-) |
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| 07:51.19 | liable | !set the time |
| 07:51.19 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 07:51.22 | liable | :) |
| 07:51.43 | jelly-ho | that wasn't very useful, was it. |
| 07:51.45 | tuv | deadcat, you can always boot without a usb disk/flash, and then plug in |
| 07:51.47 | fireba11 | ntpdate pool.ntp.org? :-) |
| 07:51.52 | faber3 | liable: i did all this. except installing ntp-simple |
| 07:52.27 | deadcat | tuv: ah. well i just restart the thing. 80 is up again. let me abuse it again (=.. again this is the linksys firmware only |
| 07:52.29 | tuv | faber3, ntpdate should work on its own. |
| 07:52.36 | liable | jelly-ho: heh, indeed it wasnt, for some reason i thought it gave more info than that... |
| 07:52.37 | jelly-ho | faber3: chrony and ntp-simple are both ntp servers. chrony ought to work too. |
| 07:52.37 | faber3 | ntp-simple want to install ntp-server, i dont want a server |
| 07:52.49 | tuv | deadcat, linksys firmware is no fun :) |
| 07:52.57 | streuner | faber3: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 07:53.09 | deadcat | tuv: i can tell (=.. haha died again.. |
| 07:53.25 | deadcat | tuv: i am gonna ping -f while i shower.. hope nothing will fry |
| 07:53.34 | faber3 | i can run "ntpdate pool.ntp.org". but what i want is: periodically run ntpdate and using the server from /etc/default/ntpdate |
| 07:53.46 | tuv | faber3, it's a server as in a daemon.. locally |
| 07:54.02 | faber3 | streuner: 2.3.6-7 |
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| 07:54.19 | faber3 | tuv: what is a server? |
| 07:54.30 | tuv | deadcat, i guess it can handle that much fun :) |
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| 07:54.41 | tuv | faber3, a background process.. in a sense |
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| 07:55.05 | deadcat | tuv: hope my desktop dont go nuts. i dont care about the slug. i am returning it once i get a cheaper on online... shower time. (= |
| 07:55.27 | San5ck | is search-party dead? |
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| 07:55.34 | tuv | faber3, you need ntpdate only once.. usually on boot (which is how it is configured by default), then ntp-simple should take care of keeping you in-sync |
| 07:55.38 | faber3 | tuv: alright, i know what a daemon / server process is, what do i need if i want a 1) daemon to check periodically or 2) cronjob to check periodically to set the time properly on my system |
| 07:55.39 | San5ck | http://live.gnome.org/SearchPartyhttp://live.gnome.org/SearchParty |
| 07:55.50 | faber3 | tuv: the maschine will not be booted for the next 2 years |
| 07:56.30 | jelly-ho | faber3: if your machine is online 24/7, set up an ntp server (either ntp-simple or chrony). |
| 07:56.36 | tuv | faber3, so you only need to run ntpdate once then |
| 07:56.46 | k31th | Bind or NSD ? |
| 07:56.54 | faber3 | tuv: but i am afraid that the maschine cannot keep the time up to date |
| 07:56.58 | San5ck | faber3 ipcop has a nice ntpd |
| 07:57.06 | k31th | Yeah I use IPCOP. |
| 07:57.12 | tuv | faber3, ntp-simple should take care of that |
| 07:57.28 | streuner | faber3: debian based version? |
| 07:57.34 | tuv | i'm using ntp-simple without any problems |
| 07:58.48 | tuv | faber3, if your time is correct now, you only need ntp-simple |
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| 07:59.29 | streuner | hm |
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| 08:00.07 | faber3 | back |
| 08:00.15 | streuner | faber3: debian based version? |
| 08:00.29 | faber3 | streuner: of libc6 ? yes |
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| 08:00.50 | streuner | faber3: no, are you running ubuntu? |
| 08:00.55 | faber3 | streuner: no |
| 08:01.22 | faber3 | streuner: do i sound like ubuntu? *shiver* |
| 08:01.23 | San5ck | before ntpdate I used to use rdate and synctoclock |
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| 08:01.51 | faber3 | i wonder why my ntpdate is not reading from /etc/default. a simple ntpdate still fails |
| 08:02.06 | San5ck | bad ntp server? |
| 08:02.19 | faber3 | San5ck: pool.ntp.org |
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| 08:02.27 | San5ck | ^^^ exactly |
| 08:02.28 | k31th | tuv: what about those who use both :p |
| 08:02.38 | jelly-ho | faber3: it's strange that ntpdate init script doesn't work. |
| 08:02.43 | faber3 | skinner:/etc# ntpdate |
| 08:02.43 | faber3 | 13 Jun 10:02:37 ntpdate[3855]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 08:02.54 | tuv | k31th, they better not be using ubuntu when chatting at #debian :) |
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| 08:03.29 | faber3 | mmhh.. now my /etc/init.d/ntpdate is gone. how? why? what is going on ... |
| 08:03.52 | streuner | well, reinstall it then |
| 08:04.10 | tuv | faber3, did you install something that removed ntpdate? |
| 08:04.14 | jelly-ho | faber3: purge, install again. |
| 08:04.32 | faber3 | tuv: it says ntpdate is already the newest version |
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| 08:04.41 | k31th | what DNS server do you guys recomend ? Bind or NSD ? |
| 08:04.49 | jelly-ho | streuner: hm, would reinstall install a rm-ev conffile? Think not. |
| 08:04.50 | faber3 | can dpkg check if all files are still in place? |
| 08:04.53 | jelly-ho | rm-ed. |
| 08:05.01 | San5ck | tuv why does it matter what you use on #debian (not that I like ubuntu) but whatever works use it. |
| 08:05.08 | faber3 | jelly-ho: rm-rf-ed |
| 08:05.34 | jelly-ho | faber3: purge the package and iinstall again, that should restore all the files. |
| 08:05.35 | streuner | faber3: ok, remove and purge that package then |
| 08:05.42 | tuv | San5ck, 'cuz it can get people ungry.. not that i would. but that's what happens |
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| 08:05.58 | faber3 | is ubuntu the better debian? |
| 08:06.02 | San5ck | synaptic can replace all the files on the .deb |
| 08:06.05 | jelly-ho | tuv: s/use/ask questions about/ |
| 08:06.11 | Maulkin | faber3: In our opinion, no. |
| 08:06.15 | San5ck | ubuntu is BASEd on debian |
| 08:06.27 | faber3 | San5ck: does it make it the better? |
| 08:06.37 | San5ck | i use deb. |
| 08:06.45 | streuner | it makes it different |
| 08:06.46 | Vasistha | faber3: some people like to use ubuntu. Most of us in here prefer debian. "better" is a relative term, it's different for different people |
| 08:06.52 | San5ck | used to do suse, till v10.hell |
| 08:06.55 | fireba11 | faber3 wrong place to ask that .. we are in #debian because we like it better |
| 08:07.04 | faber3 | funny. now my ntpdate works fine and is even invoke-rc-able |
| 08:07.15 | faber3 | fireba11: i have never touched ubunut |
| 08:07.16 | faber3 | t |
| 08:07.17 | faber3 | u |
| 08:08.23 | San5ck | i can honestly say i don't use linux for video editing. |
| 08:08.36 | San5ck | i use what works for what jo |
| 08:08.47 | San5ck | job |
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| 08:09.07 | debian | San5ck: well, exactly how can you do video editing in Windows nd Mac then? |
| 08:09.14 | raden | is there a way to syncronize 2 directories ? |
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| 08:09.27 | tuv | raden, unison |
| 08:09.29 | debian | raden: rsync -a --delete |
| 08:09.56 | San5ck | win vegas, mac final cut, linux cinelerra (which has serious bugs) |
| 08:09.58 | debian | unison looks good too |
| 08:10.24 | debian | San5ck: well, video editing tools are very commercialized |
| 08:10.31 | raden | debian, soo i can take my laptop for 2 weeks be at school etc come back and sync up a direcoty and what i added to the laptop and the desktop should have the same files after i run that ? |
| 08:10.35 | fireba11 | debian i think rsync is the most flexible |
| 08:10.51 | fireba11 | raden if set up correctly yes |
| 08:11.02 | raden | fireba11, ok awesome |
| 08:11.07 | raden | this mess of information drives me nutz |
| 08:11.18 | raden | i hate laptops also soo i like everything on desktop |
| 08:11.22 | tuv | raden, if both will be modified then use unison. if only one of them is going to be modified then you can use unison or rsync |
| 08:11.34 | debian | raden: you can use gspace |
| 08:11.40 | raden | gspace ? |
| 08:11.48 | debian | which is not a linux tools, well |
| 08:12.01 | raden | i use linux |
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| 08:12.17 | debian | gspace is a share storage over firefox over gmail |
| 08:12.19 | fireba11 | tuv you can set up rsync to do that as well you know .. |
| 08:12.49 | San5ck | is there a specific tor irc client for linux that anyone can suggest? |
| 08:13.08 | Yan^ | a very basic quesion sorry: i want to add a NET repository to my list of sources and install from it the deb packages. which rep to choose and how to add? |
| 08:13.09 | tuv | fireba11, i didn't know that, but rsync can be dangerous.. it deletes silently.. unison is a little more cautious |
| 08:13.14 | jelly-ho | San5ck: for terminal or GUI? |
| 08:13.23 | San5ck | term |
| 08:13.32 | Maulkin | !mirrors |
| 08:13.33 | dpkg | i guess debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 08:13.43 | Maulkin | Yan^: See ^^ |
| 08:13.44 | San5ck | for a usb stick preferably |
| 08:13.46 | fireba11 | tuv you should take a look at rsyncs report once in a while, true :-) |
| 08:14.01 | Maulkin | San5ck: I'd suggest irssi. |
| 08:14.17 | jelly-ho | San5ck: irssi seems to be liked. I've switched to gui so I don't really know. |
| 08:14.24 | debian | USB drive is a great option |
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| 08:14.40 | Yan^ | thanx |
| 08:14.46 | San5ck | just out of curiosity if I said gui what would you have said? |
| 08:14.47 | debian | I've little conservative on using rsync for entire disk synchronization, though... |
| 08:14.53 | jelly-ho | San5ck: xchat |
| 08:15.01 | San5ck | yeah. |
| 08:15.08 | fireba11 | Vasistha: didn't say it's bad .. i just said to use with caution because you can silently delete whole heaps of file if you got a typo somewhere |
| 08:15.25 | Vasistha | San5ck: for a usb stick? do you want something small? fluxbox? |
| 08:15.30 | tuv | i used to use rsync for my backups.. it's great indeed.. now i'm using rdiff-backup though for its history (restores past backups with minimal storage) |
| 08:15.34 | San5ck | thanks. the irc part of my tor is the only tool i realy need now. |
| 08:16.13 | fireba11 | tuv am using bacula for backups ... and rsync to keep fall-back server up-to-date :-) |
| 08:16.14 | debian | and the syntax of rsync is annoying...rsync -a --delete dir1/ dir2 <--if you forget the first / ... |
| 08:16.21 | Vasistha | fireba11: oh, I wasn't responding to you, just noting that I had a great experience with it the other day -- although it involved no deletion; I only performed a task that cp -r might have done except that I wanted a single exclusion |
| 08:16.43 | San5ck | Vasistha - flux is a wm. I was talking tor + irc client but that's cool. I know flux is small |
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| 08:17.20 | jelly-ho | debian: that's why --dry-run like options rule. |
| 08:17.51 | Vasistha | San5ck: oh! well... for use with tor? I have no idea... I would guess that most clients designed first for irc ought to work, but like I said, I dunno. |
| 08:18.41 | San5ck | Vasistha: yep, I just want to keep the data from the portable apps (in this case irc) on the crypted key. |
| 08:19.17 | debian | jelly-ho: oh oh |
| 08:19.25 | San5ck | irssi will work |
| 08:19.33 | San5ck | I bet bitchx would too |
| 08:19.48 | San5ck | but I will stick with irssi cause it was suggested |
| 08:20.11 | San5ck | hell telnet could work on some servers. ;) |
| 08:20.21 | Vasistha | San5ck: oh, hmm... and does that necessarily mean the device must also hold the program? I mean, for that purpose, you could always just make your log directory into a symlink pointing to the drive, that's actually what I do |
| 08:20.41 | Ferret | irssi is well-regarded. |
| 08:22.03 | San5ck | Vashistha, yes all data either goes to the crypted usb key or dumped to /dev/null, no leaking preferably |
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| 08:22.22 | San5ck | this way the key can be lost and never used |
| 08:22.38 | San5ck | or stolen... |
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| 08:24.48 | San5ck | actually I am experimenting with several keys, one has a whole linux on it. Another has crypted container with portable apps |
| 08:25.44 | San5ck | if I ever lost these sticks I wouldn't worry cause there ain't nobody gonna crack the pw |
| 08:26.00 | debian | I'm not realize rootprompt.org still active |
| 08:26.03 | San5ck | but the TOR is because of the govt snooping |
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| 08:26.59 | Ahri | hi, i've currently got mdadm rebuilding a partition that's faulty and i want to abort the rebuild, but i can't work out how to do that while i'm using the working mirror |
| 08:27.32 | darkstego | I am having trouble mounting a vfat partition, it seems to be ignoring the umask option, can anyone help me with this? |
| 08:28.03 | jelly-ho | darkstego: have to use fmask and dmask. |
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| 08:29.28 | jelly-ho | darkstego: though, it works here, using only umask in fstab. |
| 08:30.42 | liable | Ahri: failt the other device again? |
| 08:31.30 | darkstego | jelly-ho, I tried fmask and dmask, but it doesn't work |
| 08:31.58 | Ahri | liable: i can successfully fault it, but the rebuild refuses to stop |
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| 08:32.59 | liable | Ahri: hrm, well, i guess wait, i dont think you want to kill the process. i dunno what it would do, but i doubt if its a good idea. |
| 08:36.37 | tuv | so what OSs do you guys use besides debian? |
| 08:36.53 | tuv | if i may ask.. |
| 08:37.08 | streuner | windows for playing games |
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| 08:38.05 | Ahri | gentoo/windows at home, debian at work |
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| 08:39.52 | tuv | so gentoo and windows so far.. |
| 08:40.01 | formorer | debian |
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| 08:40.25 | fireba11 | Ahri http://www.funroll-loops.org/ :-) |
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| 08:44.39 | Ahri | yeah yeah, i know, still, i enjoy using it :) |
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| 08:46.57 | leshaste | anyone see how to hear the sound at http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~algorith/sounds/lec19-5.html ? |
| 08:48.04 | k31th | does anyone have a dns zone file i could take a look at ? |
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| 08:52.43 | k31th | How does a dns server know which is the default DNS server to use ? |
| 08:53.33 | debian | formorer |
| 08:53.58 | k31th | ? |
| 08:54.05 | formorer | debian: ? |
| 08:54.34 | blondie | lol |
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| 08:59.36 | jelly-ho | darkstego: hm, dunno then. |
| 09:00.15 | jelly-ho | k31th: dns servers ask root. |
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| 09:00.53 | jelly-ho | k31th: (one of root dns servers, servers that run zone ".") |
| 09:01.21 | Aap | hi how do you do a crontabjob for every minute? /1 * * * * ? |
| 09:01.46 | jelly-ho | k31th: what are you trying to do? |
| 09:01.55 | jelly-ho | Aap: * * * * * |
| 09:02.15 | deadcat | tuv: ok. ping -f survived on the slug (= |
| 09:02.47 | Aap | thx jelly |
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| 09:03.51 | k31th | jelly-ho: well what is happening is... I have a two DNS servers and i trying to crete another one. |
| 09:04.25 | k31th | basically iv never done this before and im wondering ona few things with zone files. |
| 09:05.08 | jelly-ho | k31th: is it a subdomain or a domain? |
| 09:05.14 | k31th | for example all the name server for blah.com |
| 09:05.22 | k31th | jelly-ho: the whole zone file |
| 09:05.50 | jelly-ho | k31th: basically you have to a) set up the NS records, b) tell the registrar you have another DNS server. |
| 09:06.01 | k31th | would be blah.com IN NS ns1.blah.com |
| 09:06.05 | tuv | deadcat, that was a long shower :) |
| 09:06.09 | k31th | blah.com IN NS ns2.blah.com |
| 09:06.11 | k31th | ? |
| 09:06.21 | k31th | the rest i understand |
| 09:06.32 | k31th | basically i add the records |
| 09:06.34 | jelly-ho | k31th: you forgot the . at the end, but basically yes. |
| 09:06.37 | k31th | check there working |
| 09:06.46 | setcode | hello |
| 09:06.47 | k31th | then update the glue record ? |
| 09:07.16 | deadcat | tuv: i was messing with my handspring visor prior to the shower.. i am gonna use the visor as the LCD for the slug.. |
| 09:07.25 | deadcat | tuv: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Peripherals/Palm |
| 09:07.42 | jelly-ho | k31th: yes. |
| 09:07.49 | tuv | deadcat, that would be great |
| 09:07.50 | k31th | jelly-ho if all i am doing is adding a name server, do all i have to do is make sure the zones are the same on both servers ? |
| 09:08.20 | jelly-ho | k31th: well you should already have some means to sync the zones. |
| 09:08.23 | deadcat | tuv: ya.. maybe load xorg on the palm hahhaha |
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| 09:09.04 | jelly-ho | k31th: either make one server a secondary one and use zone transfer, or sync the files somehow. |
| 09:09.10 | k31th | atm ns1.blah.com and ns2.blah.com both point to same ip address im creating a new dns server and i am changing the ip of ns1.blah.com to point to this new server |
| 09:09.43 | k31th | jelly-ho: what server would you recomend ? |
| 09:09.54 | k31th | some one has told me to use NSD ? |
| 09:10.01 | jelly-ho | k31th: then you might want to make the new one a secondary ns, and push the zone from the primary. |
| 09:10.05 | tuv | deadcat, i've always wanted a thin client :) this would be a hell of a one |
| 09:10.07 | k31th | atm my other server is bind9 |
| 09:10.19 | deadcat | tuv: hehe |
| 09:10.19 | jelly-ho | k31th: eh, I can't really suggest one. I still use bind9 myself. |
| 09:10.55 | tuv | it's funny.. thin clients are more expensive than pcs |
| 09:10.58 | k31th | maybe i should just stick with the devil i know (A bit more:p) |
| 09:11.48 | Aap | is there a command to see which files have been modified the last 24 hours? |
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| 09:12.27 | jelly-ho | k31th: that's why I use it. It works now, and I'm too lazy to check out alternatives. |
| 09:12.39 | k31th | :D |
| 09:12.51 | k31th | im going to follow this howto and chroot it |
| 09:12.54 | k31th | http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_bind_chroot_debian |
| 09:12.56 | k31th | looks ok ? |
| 09:14.45 | Knight_Lord | Can anyone tell me a good program that can list all images in a directory and show me the ones i choose? I need a very fast program as i have thousands of pictures per directory |
| 09:14.46 | tuv | and pcs are really huge.. with redundant power |
| 09:15.02 | Knight_Lord | I'm currently gqview and was wondering is there's anything simpler and faster |
| 09:15.09 | Knight_Lord | currently using* |
| 09:15.22 | jelly-ho | k31th: dunno, try and see if it works. ;-) |
| 09:15.50 | k31th | jelly-ho: now i remember why i used NSD |
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| 09:16.31 | tuv | processing power that is |
| 09:17.17 | Knight_Lord | Even trying to do an ls on the directory takes minutes |
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| 09:17.43 | ahewitt | hey does anyone know if its possible to diff the output of two comamnds? |
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| 09:20.29 | Aap | hi, i'm learning bash scripting, can somebody watch my code pls ? (5 lines) http://pastebin.com/706133 |
| 09:20.53 | formorer | Aap: man find |
| 09:20.57 | formorer | Aap: man xargs |
| 09:21.56 | jelly-ho | Aap: also, for i in $things, not "for $i" |
| 09:22.19 | formorer | and the whole for loop is useless |
| 09:22.34 | Aap | ? |
| 09:22.42 | formorer | ?? |
| 09:22.49 | jelly-ho | formorer: he's only learning so I don't think it really matters now. |
| 09:23.00 | Aap | yeah i did: echo $i |
| 09:23.15 | formorer | jelly-ho: I'm not sure about it. But its better to learn it sooner than later |
| 09:23.16 | tuv | ahewitt, try diff "`cmd1`" "`cmd2`" |
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| 09:23.33 | Aap | but i get syntax error near unexpected token `in' |
| 09:24.01 | jelly-ho | Aap: for variable in so me thi ngs he re |
| 09:24.45 | tuv | ahewitt, hmm.. i don't think this works.. |
| 09:24.51 | jelly-ho | Aap: not for $variable in so me thi ngs he re, you want the name of the variable, not its value here. |
| 09:25.02 | tuv | ahewitt, you can always forward the output of each command to a file and diff the output files |
| 09:25.40 | jelly-ho | Aap: also, you might want to check out a non debian-specific channel for more help. |
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| 09:26.18 | ahewitt | tuv: yeah its not really a big deal...I was just curious if it was possible |
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| 09:26.59 | Aap | jelly-ho: so var in something AND NOT $var in $something |
| 09:27.17 | jelly-ho | Aap: no. |
| 09:27.26 | jelly-ho | Aap: for var in ... |
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| 09:28.02 | Aap | in ...? $something or something? |
| 09:28.21 | lanchow | Aap: http://pastebin.com/706144 |
| 09:28.23 | jelly-ho | Aap: ... could be explicit stuff (a b c), an expanded variable value ($something), really anythin. |
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| 09:29.19 | Aap | thx guys |
| 09:30.02 | farous | anyone can help setting a wireless bcm43xx card? |
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| 09:31.03 | jelly-ho | lanchow: eh, that too. Though I prefer results=`command`; do something with $results here. But cmd_line='some command'; `$cmd_line` also works. |
| 09:31.28 | jelly-ho | lanchow: so I'd just fix the original's in='command' to in=`command` |
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| 09:33.51 | niru | I want to get some information.I always see VESA driver(generic) while probing for vedio card.I want to remove this default value.how to dp? |
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| 09:35.17 | lanchow | jelly-ho: my script doesn't works, maybe cause the 'in' must be a list |
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| 09:36.26 | niru | probing for vedio card:VESA driver(generic) how to remove this default value |
| 09:36.44 | brosio | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.49 | tuv | where does Xprint look for fonts? |
| 09:37.51 | Cephexin | brosio, would you explain more? |
| 09:38.07 | liable | niru: reconfigure x? |
| 09:38.31 | lanchow | Aap: still here ? |
| 09:39.18 | Aap | yeha |
| 09:39.19 | Aap | yeah |
| 09:39.48 | niru | liable:I am talking about anaconda script.Is there any requirment to modify the script to get your own system driver instead of vesa driver |
| 09:39.58 | Aap | lanchow : ? |
| 09:40.20 | liable | niru: nfc |
| 09:40.26 | lanchow | Aap: the script doesn't work right ? try : for i in $($in) |
| 09:40.34 | niru | this should happen at the time of installation |
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| 09:40.47 | lanchow | Aap: or maybe it works but is so long .. |
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| 09:41.22 | Aap | ? |
| 09:41.57 | lanchow | Aap: oh no it's ok, you can do either `$in` or $($in) |
| 09:42.21 | deadcat | i am trying to make my box see my handspring visor again. i load visor. but no /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/pilot. what am i missing? |
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| 09:42.59 | deadcat | lsusb doesnt show the visor either. |
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| 09:44.01 | jelly-ho | Aap, lanchow: just to make things more confusing, here's another version: http://pastebin.com/706164 |
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| 09:45.36 | jelly-ho | Aap, lanchow: also, must now have spaces between var and = in variable assignment. http://pastebin.com/706169 |
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| 09:45.41 | jelly-ho | s/now/not/ |
| 09:48.39 | lanchow | jelly-ho: right :) |
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| 09:52.03 | liable | yes |
| 09:52.36 | liable | mmmm, someones cooking a roast |
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| 09:55.27 | bartden | hi, is there a good dvd ripper in linux ? |
| 09:55.56 | formorer | bartden: DVD::Rip |
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| 09:56.27 | bartden | k thx |
| 09:56.32 | liable | bartden: check k9copy |
| 09:56.41 | liable | from marillat |
| 09:56.53 | liable | or... debian-media |
| 09:57.00 | liable | as its now known |
| 09:57.08 | liable | multimedia :) |
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| 10:00.23 | Aap | hey sorry , i was disconnected |
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| 10:02.56 | Intoxicator | 'morning |
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| 10:05.43 | sk4nK_ | I'm needing to install a mod for php (verisign pfpro), i'm wondering how to do this the 'debian way'? (i can't seem to find a package anywhere, if someone has one it would be nice) |
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| 10:16.33 | jelly-ho | Is it smart to have /tmp on tmpfs (like on Solaris)? |
| 10:16.51 | azeem | I don't think it's stupid, in any case |
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| 10:20.50 | plasmoduck | is there a web interface app that allows users to create email addressed on my server? |
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| 10:21.16 | plasmoduck | create email addresses* |
| 10:21.38 | petemc | plasmoduck: you could look at vexim |
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| 10:22.16 | Aap | how do you concatenate 2 strings in bash? |
| 10:22.35 | akappa | ${var1}${var2} ? |
| 10:22.45 | USmarine | difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 10:22.58 | SlayerXP | USmarine: "dist-" |
| 10:23.10 | petemc | USmarine: theres an explanation in the apt-get man page |
| 10:24.38 | Aap | can somebody watch: http://pastebin.com/706201 please |
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| 10:26.10 | USmarine | dist-upgrade removes me xserver-common |
| 10:26.14 | USmarine | is it safe? |
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| 10:28.39 | donfilipo | how can i change my monitor settings...after fresh install the same problem resolution 1024X768 at 60Hz can not stand the flickering?? |
| 10:28.48 | tuv | USmarine, yes.. that's a side effect of upgrading to xorg 7 |
| 10:29.07 | USmarine | sortadi, it's a normal behaviour right? |
| 10:29.31 | USmarine | donfilipo, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 10:29.53 | akappa | donfilipo, do you know what "modelines" are? |
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| 10:30.16 | donfilipo | USmarine no go i've tried that 3 times you can not change the monitor settings there any more...modelines no |
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| 10:30.42 | akappa | donfilipo, with modelines you can specify this type of behaviour |
| 10:31.06 | akappa | and much more things like positioning of the root |
| 10:31.54 | akappa | you just should read the manual :P |
| 10:33.13 | donfilipo | akappa ok i will see what modelines are...but you now somebody should think about it...to read a manual on 60hz flickering screen it's a bit sadistic yes it is |
| 10:34.03 | tuv | you can read the manual on console |
| 10:34.09 | akappa | donfilipo, I understand, but I don't have the time for read the manual for you and write the correct modeline. |
| 10:34.22 | akappa | and yes, you can switch to a virtual console. |
| 10:36.07 | plasmoduck | I need something so people can create their own email accounts via website, kinda like hotmail |
| 10:36.34 | SlayerXP | plasmoduck: you'll be looking for a clue of some kind, then |
| 10:36.51 | plasmoduck | ? |
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| 10:39.58 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: things to try: change the driver if you're using the vesa one; set up correct HorizSync and VertRefresh if the monitor's are not detected properly (search for DDC and/or EDID in the /var/log/X*0.log and see if you have something like (II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 56 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 24 H max: 80 kHz, PixClock max 140 MHz) |
| 10:40.11 | Spaniard87 | what is the best way to remotely add static routes to LAN computers, e.g. broadcast static routes? |
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| 10:41.24 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: forcing the modelines should be the last resort (and you'll still have to fix HorizSync and VertRefresh to enable them). |
| 10:42.27 | donfilipo | yelly-ho it is strange to me to but dpkg reconfigure does not do the things it did before...i can not even change the driver from ati to let us say vesa or reverse |
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| 10:43.05 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: I know, hopefully it'll be fixed before etch becomes stable. |
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| 10:44.34 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: maybe put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf online so someone can take a look and see what's happening. |
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| 10:46.08 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: by "change the driver" I meant edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put it there by hand. |
| 10:46.16 | donfilipo | jelly-ho i will look at the xorg.conf myself but i think it does not play any role anymore...something is changed there revolutionary |
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| 10:46.52 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: it's not _that_ different, I've upgraded to xorg7 recently too. ;-) |
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| 10:48.47 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: It's just that the debconf stuff (dpkg-reconfigure) does strange things. |
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| 10:49.19 | donfilipo | jelly-ho before i clean installed the etch i had the nvidia driver selected in xorg.conf and the thing worked same as now...i have the radeon card |
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| 10:51.06 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: hm. Well, I'd put driver "ati" there by hand (if there's something else there now), restart and see what happens. |
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| 10:52.21 | donfilipo | jelly-ho and of course dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not change the xorg.conf anymore but it does changes something else dont know what |
| 10:52.36 | Sonderblade | i have a debian sarge box with dynamic ip, what is the way to change that so that i can configure the ip to be static? |
| 10:52.58 | tuv | Sonderblade, man interfaces |
| 10:53.09 | shevek | Is there a way to trigger a sound event when the X bell happens? I don't have a PC speaker in my machine, but want to hear beeps anyway. |
| 10:53.22 | shevek | (using gnome) |
| 10:53.42 | Sonderblade | tuv: so no dpkg-reconfigure <something> i can run instead? |
| 10:54.22 | tuv | Sonderblade, i'm not aware of any.. editing /etc/network/interfaces is pretty straightforward though |
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| 10:55.17 | Sonderblade | i guess that could be improved |
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| 10:56.25 | tuv | Sonderblade, linux's beauty lies in the power entitled to text files.. you're missing the party |
| 10:57.16 | jelly-ho | donfilipo: I've just given up on dpkg-reconfigure and set up stuff by hand. Hopefully it will be cleaned up soon, but I wanted a working system right away. |
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| 10:58.05 | Sonderblade | tuv: MEH! |
| 10:58.22 | tuv | ? |
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| 11:00.55 | TipTap | hey guys i am having trouble with copy for some unknown reason. I am copying from openoffice, but yet when i go to paste in the terminal window it's pasting something i had in the clipboard form before i copied |
| 11:01.32 | TipTap | so basically it's not actually copying to the clipboard when i select to do so. Same applies for any other application really from what i can gather |
| 11:03.06 | simonrvn | do you have some sort of clipboard manager running? like kde's, or xfce4's? |
| 11:03.08 | shevek | TipTap: I remember that openoffice indeed doesn't copy to clipboard on select. At least a terminal does. For openoffice, you can "save as text", then use that (from a terminal, or directly, depending on what you want to do) |
| 11:03.39 | simonrvn | oh, OOo bug? |
| 11:03.44 | TipTap | simonrvn, no not that i'm aware of, i use fluxbox |
| 11:03.52 | simonrvn | ok cool |
| 11:04.36 | TipTap | however, i went to install wine which started to install xorg, things have changed since then |
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| 11:06.16 | jelly-ho | TipTap: and when you explicitely do copy in OO.o (ctrl-c I presume)? |
| 11:07.10 | TipTap | yes ctrl +c and edit -> copy (same principles) |
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| 11:10.28 | jelly-ho | TipTap: hmm, works for me if I just select stuff with mouse and then paste (middle button) to rxvt. |
| 11:10.35 | jelly-ho | TipTap: I |
| 11:11.18 | jelly-ho | TipTap: like most other X apps. Didn't have to use the copy function. |
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| 11:11.38 | np_complete | hi all! |
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| 11:12.59 | Shadur | Anyone here that can recommend an STM-1 card that's supported in linux? |
| 11:13.01 | np_complete | i have a problem in my notebook, my Hadrd disk now runs very slow? why? fragmentation? |
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| 11:13.18 | weissi | np_complete, sata, ide, scsi? |
| 11:13.34 | donfilipo | jelly-ho and others thanks to all..changing manually the frequncies range of monitor in xorg.conf caused my screen work perfect |
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| 11:14.11 | adaran | hello everyone. i have a local repository (of file:/// type) where i put a few handmade .debs. the repository uses the "simple" layout (no Release file). i've signed the package with debsigs, however, when using aptitude, i still get an "untrusted packages" warning. what am i doing wrong? |
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| 11:14.56 | Shadur | adaran: Have you added your key into apt's keyring? |
| 11:15.05 | np_complete | wessi ide |
| 11:15.08 | adaran | Shadur, yes, i have |
| 11:15.17 | np_complete | weissi but i'm not sure |
| 11:15.20 | weissi | np_complete, what does hdparm -d /dev/hdX say? |
| 11:15.35 | weissi | np_complete, is it /dev/hdX or /dev/sdX ? |
| 11:15.44 | adaran | Shadur, apt-key list shows it, and i've compared the number to gpg --list-keys |
| 11:15.52 | np_complete | hd1 |
| 11:16.10 | weissi | np_complete, you mean hda1 |
| 11:16.13 | np_complete | and 95% of usage. |
| 11:16.18 | weissi | np_complete, so your disk is hda |
| 11:16.23 | np_complete | yes |
| 11:16.27 | weissi | np_complete, so it's IDE |
| 11:16.34 | weissi | np_complete, hdparm -d /dev/hda |
| 11:16.52 | TipTap | hmm i wonder why mine wont work |
| 11:17.00 | weissi | np_complete, ahh and by the way `hdparm -tT /dev/hda` |
| 11:17.26 | adaran | Shadur, anything else i could be missing? |
| 11:17.33 | np_complete | 1min |
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| 11:18.31 | np_complete | weissi but i used to run faster week s ago |
| 11:18.48 | davis | bummer, i just rm a text file. Is there anyway to get it back? |
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| 11:19.07 | Shadur | no idea, adaran. Sorry. |
| 11:19.13 | Shadur | davis: backups. |
| 11:19.32 | weissi | np_complete, ok, but first send the output of the 2 cmds, so we can analyse the problem (send output to #flood) |
| 11:19.47 | np_complete | weissi: cache reads 967.66 MB/s |
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| 11:20.08 | np_complete | weissi: buffered disk reads 15.16 Mb/s |
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| 11:20.25 | np_complete | weissi: dma on. |
| 11:20.29 | weissi | np_complete: ok, 15M is not so much, but DMA is enabled I think |
| 11:20.38 | weissi | np_complete, ok |
| 11:20.52 | weissi | np_complete, is it always slow or only on reads / writes |
| 11:21.05 | np_complete | weissi: always |
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| 11:22.10 | tuv | if it's 95% full, i'd say that's why |
| 11:22.13 | weissi | np_complete, and if you do fsck how many percent non-contigouos? |
| 11:22.14 | np_complete | weissi: hda is 95% full |
| 11:23.04 | np_complete | and hda has a large number of small files. |
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| 11:23.30 | weissi | np_complete, and what file-system |
| 11:23.37 | np_complete | ext3 |
| 11:24.05 | rumpl | argh the np_complete problem... |
| 11:24.11 | weissi | np_complete, ok, and when you're booting (or fscking) is says XX% non-continuous |
| 11:24.24 | adaran | does root need to have apt-repository keys in his .gpg ? |
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| 11:24.49 | np_complete | wait i'll fsck it now |
| 11:24.53 | weissi | np_complete, 95% full isn't good for performance, thats true... how big is the partition? |
| 11:25.18 | np_complete | the whole of the disc, 30 Gb |
| 11:26.25 | np_complete | can i defragmentate it? |
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| 11:27.01 | weissi | np_complete, so ~3G (5% free + 5% reserved for root) are still free, so that's not such a big problem I think |
| 11:27.34 | np_complete | when i open nautilus, it hangs a lot of time |
| 11:27.57 | np_complete | when i read/write a file on emacs it hangs a lot too. |
| 11:28.08 | np_complete | that's is irritating |
| 11:28.27 | liable | so make some space? |
| 11:28.40 | liable | apt-get clean? |
| 11:28.44 | np_complete | hehe |
| 11:28.47 | weissi | liable, 3G free, should be enough, no? |
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| 11:28.56 | weissi | apt-get auto-clean is much cooler :-)) |
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| 11:29.22 | chron | with a .deb are binaries linked statically? |
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| 11:29.28 | chron | and if not, is there a way to do that? |
| 11:29.35 | weissi | np_complete, you cannot defragment ext3 (temporary downgrading to ext2 and then e2defrag is possible) |
| 11:30.13 | SlayerXP | errm ext3 -> ext2 isn't a downgrade any more than ext2 -> ext3 is an upgrade |
| 11:30.25 | SlayerXP | it's using something different, that's all |
| 11:30.27 | np_complete | ufff, too much voyage for me. |
| 11:30.30 | weissi | chron, you can build your own binaries linked statically (gcc --static I think), but Debian debs are always linked dyn |
| 11:30.42 | chron | damn |
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| 11:31.11 | weissi | SlayerXP, ok, then convert from ext3 to ext2 but these fs are not that much different that I think down/upgrade is ok |
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| 11:32.06 | np_complete | ok, i'm moving files to laptop. |
| 11:32.21 | np_complete | ok, i'm moving files to workstation i mean. |
| 11:32.36 | weissi | np_complete, how many perc. non-continuous were on disk? |
| 11:32.43 | weissi | np_complete, sounds good :-) |
| 11:32.57 | np_complete | weissi how to know that? |
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| 11:33.11 | weissi | np_complete, as I said on boot or fsck |
| 11:33.12 | SlayerXP | weissi: well, in that case, I consider ext3 -> ext2 to be an upgrade in terms of performance. |
| 11:33.37 | nsm | is there a way to convert a directory containing debs to a repository usable by apt? |
| 11:34.21 | weissi | SlayerXP, I know that ext2 is faster, but journaling is cool. But ok, I will not say anymore downgrade if I mean conversion from ext3 to ext2 *g* |
| 11:34.33 | SlayerXP | weissi: thankyou :) |
| 11:35.01 | weissi | SlayerXP, np :) |
| 11:35.08 | jelly-ho | nsm: yes. |
| 11:35.10 | np_complete | weissi, ok i'll reboot. |
| 11:35.24 | nsm | how? |
| 11:35.36 | weissi | np_complete, did you check dmesg, because perhaps the disk has a hardware damage?!? |
| 11:35.44 | np_complete | SlayerXP and weissi: lol |
| 11:36.31 | jelly-ho | nsm: quick and dirty way: "dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz" , and then add something like "deb file:/home/jelly/packages/ ./" to sources.list |
| 11:36.32 | np_complete | weissi: ok i'll look for it |
| 11:36.50 | weissi | ok |
| 11:37.34 | nsm | ok, and are kubuntu packages stable when installed on debian? |
| 11:37.46 | jelly-ho | nsm: no. |
| 11:37.48 | weissi | !kubuntu |
| 11:37.48 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, or #Kubuntu, or another debian ripoff |
| 11:37.50 | weissi | !ubuntu |
| 11:37.50 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 11:38.41 | jelly-ho | nsm: it might or might not work, and might break unrelated stuff. |
| 11:38.56 | nsm | ok |
| 11:39.17 | jelly-ho | nsm: ... then again they might just work. ;-) |
| 11:40.02 | np_complete | weissi, no HD damage i guess |
| 11:40.07 | np_complete | but wait i'll reboot |
| 11:40.12 | nsm | thanks |
| 11:40.15 | weissi | oKtosiTe, good |
| 11:40.33 | jahshua | i have just installed Debian and its a pretty basic install/netinstall .. i am wondering about my packages being up to date, i have run apt-get update/upgrade but for instance my irssi version is 0.8.9 .. is that normal? is that considered up to date for .deb packages? i am running Debian 3.1. |
| 11:40.35 | tuv | np_complete, i'm pretty sure it's because the disk is full.. how much does "df -h" tell you is available |
| 11:40.44 | np_complete | a have a really strange problem in my screen |
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| 11:41.45 | jelly-ho | jahshua: it's normal. |
| 11:41.47 | np_complete | if i start X, then the text tty looks withey, reallt milky. |
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| 11:43.08 | TipTap | well, i've rebooted the machine and i still can't copy from openoffice or rdesktop either, but i can from firefox - so i dont get it. It's something to do with the semiconfiguration of xorg, how can reconfigure xorg properly as i never completed it as i didn't want to upgrade to it but wine got it as a depdency |
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| 11:43.40 | TipTap | s/\w+^/dependency/ |
| 11:43.53 | TipTap | erm s/\w+$/dependency/ even |
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| 11:45.39 | np_complete | If i have a disk with 200 Gb, do i need to do partitions in order to save space? (because i-nodes) |
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| 11:48.46 | xored | what app to use for pdf editing ( not creating )? |
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| 11:49.35 | jelly-ho | np_complete: not because of inodes, you can set the desired number of inodes when doing mkfs. |
| 11:49.38 | weissi | xored, pdftosvg and then inkscape? |
| 11:49.54 | np_complete | waw i'have freed space, but still running slow |
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| 11:50.51 | dhuv | hello all |
| 11:52.08 | jelly-ho | np_complete: eg. I have a 200GB backup disk with only one partition, but I told mke2fs to create only 2 mil. inodes instead of tens of millions default. This will shorten fsck time if/when it becomes necessary to do it. |
| 11:52.53 | dhuv | I am having a problem using mkisofs, I have a directory which contains files with names that are mixed case and want to preserve that when created an iso. If I do "mkisofs -iso-level 3 -allow-lowercase -o test.iso test123/" I get an iso but when I mount it all the chars are lowercase |
| 11:52.54 | np_complete | ok, interesting... |
| 11:52.59 | TipTap | bah i can't change into different consoles either now ctrl + alt + f2 and such does nothing |
| 11:53.10 | Aap | i need a undo thing in linux |
| 11:53.14 | jelly-ho | TipTap: welcome to xorg7? |
| 11:53.33 | sep | Aap, that's usualy implementes in each single application |
| 11:53.35 | TipTap | Why do people rant and rave about how great xorg is |
| 11:53.45 | Aap | i mean in command line :) |
| 11:53.50 | dhuv | I can see them as lowercase when I "mount 0o loop test.iso /mnt/loopback" |
| 11:54.10 | sep | Aap, you mean somethnig like undo rm -rf / ? :) |
| 11:54.26 | Aap | yeah |
| 11:54.31 | RichiH | is explore2fs still the state of the art for reading ext3 under windows? |
| 11:54.35 | TipTap | jelly-ho, how do i change console with oxrg? |
| 11:54.43 | TipTap | s/\w+$/xorg/ |
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| 11:54.51 | jelly-ho | TipTap: if you take a look a /topic, you'll see http://wiki.debian.org/Status, then follow the link to http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 11:54.58 | TipTap | oh right ok thanks |
| 11:55.19 | TipTap | jelly-ho, well this is xfree86 to xorg |
| 11:55.20 | sep | Aap, that's called undelete, and is implementes differently in each filesystem type |
| 11:55.23 | jelly-ho | TipTap: to change it right away, as root do: chvt 1 (or whatever console number) |
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| 11:55.35 | Aap | sep: oh |
| 11:55.47 | sep | Aap, so what filesystem are you using ? |
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| 11:56.12 | Aap | sep:ext3 |
| 11:56.21 | TipTap | hmm chvt 1? |
| 11:56.21 | jelly-ho | RichiH: I prefer www.fs-driver.org (mounts rw ext2/ext3 and assigns a letter, just like a real windows fs! :-) |
| 11:56.29 | sep | Aap, ext3 is a journaling system, and due to it's nature undelete is not possible on those |
| 11:56.37 | sep | Aap, restore from backups |
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| 11:56.44 | Aap | yeah |
| 11:57.28 | adaran | how do i create a "trusted" repository? i thought i had to use debsigs, but the packages downloaded from the official repositories do not contain any gpg keys, so what am i missing? |
| 11:58.07 | RichiH | jelly-ho: ah, cool |
| 11:58.42 | liable | adaran: they have md5sums, and you make a a file with gpg of those md5sums, at least thats what i believe that debian does, and no, i dont know how to do it :P |
| 11:58.45 | jelly-ho | dpkg, ext2fsd if also but see http://www.fs-driver.org/ for a rw driver. |
| 11:59.00 | adaran | liable, Release.gpg ? |
| 11:59.01 | jelly-ho | dpkg, ext2fsd is also ... see also http://www.fs-driver.org/ for a rw driver. |
| 11:59.01 | dpkg | jelly-ho: okay |
| 11:59.22 | liable | adaran: yes |
| 11:59.28 | Aap | ok guys, tomorrow I have exam of linux system administration (everybody knows now i think), does anyone has some tricks i have to keep in mind? |
| 11:59.41 | adaran | liable, ah, if only someone had written decent documentation |
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| 12:00.03 | amphi | Aap: init=/bin/bash ;) |
| 12:00.08 | liable | adaran: i am sure its documented in some obscure man page or something somewhere |
| 12:00.14 | liable | :) |
| 12:00.17 | Aap | amphi: uh? |
| 12:00.28 | amphi | Aap: what are you asking for? |
| 12:00.32 | adaran | liable, it's split. and that doesn't even account for all the "little" things that make apt _so much fun_ to work with :P |
| 12:00.37 | weissi | Aap, try it out! |
| 12:01.01 | Aap | if somebody knows some tricks, i don't know, maybe stupid question. |
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| 12:01.18 | TipTap | jelly-ho, ok i've done the dpkg-reconfgure xserver-xorg and there's no XkbVariant, i've checked the xorg.conf and i can't see it in there either, but yet the ctrl+alt+function keys still don't work |
| 12:01.18 | Aap | i'm new into linux, thats why |
| 12:01.20 | Trimor | hi! has ne body compiled heartbeat using cygwin |
| 12:01.24 | amphi | Aap: that was one for when you've forgotten the root passwd |
| 12:01.33 | kimo | Hey, I wanna login into a friend's PC, who is behind a firewall. Can I tell him to ssh into my machine forwarding his ssh login to a port on my machine?? (sorry if it sounds too weird ;) ) |
| 12:01.34 | Aap | amphi: lol |
| 12:02.16 | TipTap | right fine, i'll just have to use chvt 1 |
| 12:02.23 | Aap | ok, it was a stupid question |
| 12:02.35 | jelly-ho | TipTap: that's all I could find about that issue, sorry. |
| 12:02.40 | amphi | Aap: one that google could answer better, perhaps |
| 12:02.51 | TipTap | yeh thanks. I'm tempted to go back to xfree86 |
| 12:02.55 | amphi | Aap: you could look at debian-administration.org |
| 12:02.59 | jelly-ho | kimo: yes you can. |
| 12:03.00 | TipTap | as copy and paste from openoffice isn't working for me either |
| 12:03.05 | Aap | yeah, but i thought: since i'm here with pro's |
| 12:03.28 | jelly-ho | kimo: his-machine$ ssh -R 10022:localhost:22 your-machine |
| 12:03.34 | kimo | jelly-ho: wow thnx :) |
| 12:03.42 | weissi | kimo: ssh -R 1234:localhost:22 yourfriend@you.com |
| 12:03.55 | weissi | too late :-( |
| 12:04.03 | jelly-ho | kimo: you@your-machine$ ssh -p 10022 account-at-friends-machine@localhost |
| 12:04.16 | kimo | w0w :) lemme try all that |
| 12:04.45 | jelly-ho | weissi: it's not ssh if it doesn't end in ...22 ;-) |
| 12:05.15 | weissi | jelly-ho, ohh I forgot ;-) so 4322 :-) |
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| 12:05.40 | jelly-ho | kimo: his boss will hate him if he finds out. Mine did. ;-) |
| 12:05.42 | liable | really? |
| 12:06.22 | Aap | if i set my interface ip with ifconfig eth0 address ....., will it be gone after restart? |
| 12:06.28 | RichiH | which WEP cracker would you suggest for hooking into kismet, these days? /me is kinda out of the loop |
| 12:06.34 | liable | adaran: yes |
| 12:06.36 | kimo | jelly-ho: coz I'm breaking his firewall :) |
| 12:06.46 | kimo | RichiH: aircrack |
| 12:07.06 | kimo | RichiH: or airsnort |
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| 12:08.11 | liable | jelly-ho: not being a smartass, but where does it say it has to end in 22? |
| 12:08.51 | kimo | liable: that's not technical, that's for being cool ;) |
| 12:08.59 | jelly-ho | liable: nowhere, but it's easier to remember. |
| 12:09.17 | pipeline | How can I disable proxy discovery in apt? |
| 12:09.20 | liable | oh, good. i thought i must have missed something somewhere |
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| 12:10.04 | RichiH | kimo: ta |
| 12:10.38 | weissi | liable, I'm sshing through 21 because the forgot to close the ftp ports :-) everything else is closed here (www through proxy) |
| 12:10.45 | weissi | s/www/http/ |
| 12:10.48 | Aap | is there a command like backup in Debian? |
| 12:11.00 | weissi | Aap, what is a cmd line backup? |
| 12:11.04 | jelly-ho | liable: it's all a convention anyway. just because services file says 22/tcp is ssh, doesn't mean I can't run a smtp listener. |
| 12:11.09 | Aap | weissi? |
| 12:11.12 | liable | weissi: change isp! :P |
| 12:11.24 | weissi | liable, at school :-) |
| 12:11.44 | Aap | weissi, what do you mean? |
| 12:11.47 | weissi | liable, and no, I can't change school because I'm here in my civil service |
| 12:11.57 | liable | jelly-ho: yeah, i was having a brainfart and thought you were actually serious, and seeing as i havent ever read that in any ssh docs, i thought i'd ask. |
| 12:11.59 | weissi | Aap, what do you mean with "command line backup"? |
| 12:12.39 | Aap | weissi, is there a command, liKe backup |
| 12:12.50 | weissi | Aap, a backup tool? |
| 12:12.55 | Aap | yeah |
| 12:13.00 | jelly-ho | liable: yeah, ssh listening ports are restricted to port mod 100 = 22 by standard. ;-) |
| 12:13.16 | weissi | Aap, apt-cache search backup |
| 12:13.27 | weissi | Aap, backup-manager - command-line backup tool |
| 12:13.27 | weissi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.38 | Aap | lk |
| 12:13.39 | Aap | k |
| 12:15.06 | TipTap | hmm i dont fully understand how copying works. If i have openoffice running, and i copy something it doesnt appear to copy, if i use xclipboard in the background i can see that when i copy it is going to the xclipboard but yet when i paste it does nothing unless i highlight it from the xclipboard window in which case that works |
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| 12:15.44 | TipTap | in fact it appears that if i highlight the text from openoffice that works, but yet if i copy the cell it doesn't |
| 12:16.01 | TipTap | even though it is risiding on the clipboard. Is this some bug with xorg 7? |
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| 12:17.44 | Aap | how can i see which applications on my system are using sockets? |
| 12:19.22 | liable | wtf, i am getting spam that will pay me for supplying trojaned boxen.. |
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| 12:20.35 | Ronin | liable: heh |
| 12:21.46 | weissi | Aap, netstat -lap (as root) |
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| 12:22.15 | Aap | thx |
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| 12:23.19 | weissi | Aap, netstat -ap is enough I think (a stands for all and l for listening) |
| 12:23.25 | PhoneManiac | Hello everybody, I need an answering machine program for Debian Sarge; does it exists ? Thank you |
| 12:24.02 | Aap | thx |
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| 12:24.20 | weissi | PhoneManiac, something like "megahal - conversation simulator that can learn as you talk to it" or eliza? |
| 12:24.40 | weissi | PhoneManiac, sorry, I think I misunderstood you :-) |
| 12:24.48 | Aap | and how can i find eg. all ip's from www.google.com ? |
| 12:25.13 | PhoneManiac | i need a program the greets those who calls me (analog 56k Fax Voice modem :: ttsy1) then record it's message left i one ;9 that's all |
| 12:25.15 | weissi | Aap, dig |
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| 12:25.44 | weissi | PhoneManiac, perhaps overkill, but asterisk can do everything with telephony I think |
| 12:25.46 | Aap | thx weissi |
| 12:26.00 | superlinux | hi all |
| 12:26.01 | weissi | PhoneManiac, or isdnvboxclient |
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| 12:26.04 | PhoneManiac | i treid installing asterisk bu i went nowhere |
| 12:26.05 | PhoneManiac | ;( |
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| 12:26.23 | PhoneManiac | got just a console i know no use for |
| 12:26.34 | weissi | PhoneManiac, and isdnvboxserver |
| 12:26.39 | superlinux | in the program "top" what info can I get from : "Swap: 546200k total, 0k used, 546200k free, 558848k cached" |
| 12:26.55 | superlinux | and I have 1GB RAM |
| 12:26.56 | PhoneManiac | isdnvboxclient works for analog 56 modem ? |
| 12:26.57 | jetscreamer | !gravity++ |
| 12:27.01 | Aap | and to build a static route table, with traceroute?? |
| 12:27.05 | jetscreamer | on another note |
| 12:27.10 | superlinux | Aap hello |
| 12:27.18 | Aap | hi superlinux! |
| 12:27.19 | jetscreamer | why does a kernel package not honor /etc/kernel-pkg.conf |
| 12:27.33 | amphi | superlinux: that you have a good bit of swap, you're not using any of it, and you have approx half a gig of files cached? |
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| 12:28.03 | superlinux | if that is the case.. yes |
| 12:28.32 | superlinux | cos I donno why on windows I still have paging abt 350MB |
| 12:28.38 | jetscreamer | superlinux: that you have a good bit of swap, you're not using any of it, and you have approx half a gig of files cached? :) |
| 12:28.43 | jetscreamer | amphi++ |
| 12:28.49 | superlinux | cached where? |
| 12:28.57 | amphi | superlinux: in ram |
| 12:29.02 | superlinux | ah |
| 12:29.09 | superlinux | good! |
| 12:29.16 | jetscreamer | type free |
| 12:29.20 | amphi | jetscreamer: ;) |
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| 12:29.44 | superlinux | then if I did swap off it won't harm |
| 12:29.51 | superlinux | but won't do it |
| 12:30.15 | amphi | superlinux: it won't do harm if you have enough ram for what's swapped out; file cache will be dumped to make space if required |
| 12:30.18 | superlinux | cos I know one don't know when the system will swap |
| 12:31.36 | TBBle | Actually, it's pretty easy to know when the system will swap. "When it needs to." |
| 12:31.50 | superlinux | has any body had an experiance with a program called "demo recorder" |
| 12:32.08 | superlinux | TBBle, but yourself won't know when |
| 12:32.12 | liable | nein |
| 12:32.17 | superlinux | you as a human |
| 12:32.38 | superlinux | cos that is automatic |
| 12:32.47 | TBBle | Well, depends if you have a rough idea of what you're doing on your box. Judicious use of 'top' should help with that. |
| 12:32.48 | superlinux | no one has?!! |
| 12:32.50 | amphi | superlinux: trust your kernel ;) |
| 12:33.13 | superlinux | no one has used that application?!! |
| 12:33.34 | iKernel | H |
| 12:33.36 | iKernel | E |
| 12:33.37 | iKernel | L |
| 12:33.39 | iKernel | O |
| 12:33.40 | iKernel | ! |
| 12:33.42 | TBBle | superlinux: I'm guessing not, or they would have pounced on you the moment you asked with sagely advice and solutions to whatever problem you've yet to tell us your're having. |
| 12:33.46 | iKernel | H |
| 12:33.47 | iKernel | O |
| 12:33.48 | iKernel | W |
| 12:33.50 | amphi | !tell iKernel about enter |
| 12:33.54 | iKernel | ? |
| 12:33.55 | liable | iKernel: stop it |
| 12:33.58 | jetscreamer | quit using mozilla chat |
| 12:34.04 | jetscreamer | gay client |
| 12:34.15 | liable | gay user |
| 12:34.21 | blondie | !gay |
| 12:34.22 | dpkg | It's OK to fantasize about men and to enjoy anal stimulation. It doesn't mean you're "gay". So stop projecting your insecurities onto others. Using this term as a derogatory adjective is very offensive, so do not use it as such. If you continue acting like a child, expect to be devoiced. |
| 12:34.27 | iKernel | no im straight liable |
| 12:34.29 | superlinux | TBBle, that program is worth looking at although is for money not open source |
| 12:34.29 | amphi | !ghey |
| 12:34.30 | dpkg | well, ghey is the same as "gay", you homophobe |
| 12:34.30 | liable | oh no, we arent supposed to say that anymore |
| 12:34.31 | TBBle | One could argue that RAM would be better used for caching frequently-used files than for holding very occasionally run TEXT sections... And I presume such an arguement has been made into the kernel already. |
| 12:34.34 | amphi | heh |
| 12:34.41 | jetscreamer | i expect to not be told how to use a word |
| 12:34.44 | jelly-ho | blondie: maybe they thought "happy". ;-) |
| 12:34.52 | jetscreamer | the word is not reserved by and for homosexuals |
| 12:34.54 | blondie | maybe, but unlikely! |
| 12:34.56 | TBBle | Huh? That doesn't make you gay? |
| 12:35.11 | amphi | TBBle: it has |
| 12:35.13 | jetscreamer | if i mean homosexual i will type homosexual |
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| 12:35.16 | oskie | would you use a debian "default" kernel in a production server environment? or would you make it manually and turn into a deb with kernel-image? |
| 12:35.19 | jelly-ho | fags. |
| 12:35.28 | jetscreamer | fags are cigarettes |
| 12:35.29 | amphi | cigarettes? ;) |
| 12:35.33 | jelly-ho | ... not that I smoke. |
| 12:35.38 | liable | pole? |
| 12:35.40 | liable | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.44 | blondie | jetscreamer: "homosexual" isn't a nice word |
| 12:35.45 | sep | oskie, i use kernel images from sarge. since they get security upgrades |
| 12:35.46 | jetscreamer | a faggot is a bundle of wood |
| 12:35.55 | jetscreamer | blondie: and gay is? |
| 12:35.57 | blondie | yes |
| 12:36.11 | jetscreamer | well i'm glad you're happy i guess |
| 12:36.14 | blondie | retards can abuse it, but it's a much nicer word |
| 12:36.21 | liable | !smite jetscreamer for staring the gay stuff |
| 12:36.21 | TBBle | "Merry" |
| 12:36.26 | liable | :P |
| 12:36.30 | superlinux | jetscreamer, being a homo is being a psycho! |
| 12:36.41 | TBBle | Uh, homosexual isn't nice? _Whose_ insecurities are projecting now? |
| 12:36.54 | jelly-ho | superlinux: I'm a homo. Sapiens. Does that count? |
| 12:36.57 | TBBle | Actually, on second thought. |
| 12:36.58 | superlinux | and he is agianst nature! |
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| 12:37.02 | liable | lets just ficking stop the whole gay convo, can we do that? |
| 12:37.03 | TBBle | Different use of 'homo' |
| 12:37.10 | jetscreamer | funny i always thought they were people who had different tastes |
| 12:37.39 | superlinux | jelly-ho, I meant homosexuals |
| 12:37.51 | jelly-ho | ok, two screens of that ought to be enough, now back to #debian... |
| 12:37.57 | blondie | TBBle: what? I mean just the word. |
| 12:37.57 | jetscreamer | superlinux: lets both drop it then |
| 12:38.09 | blondie | not it's meaning |
| 12:38.10 | superlinux | back to debian |
| 12:38.11 | blondie | -' |
| 12:38.14 | blondie | indeed |
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| 12:38.30 | blondie | superlinux: and it's not against nature thanks. |
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| 12:38.56 | blondie | superlinux: plenty of animal species have "gay" couples, not just humans! |
| 12:39.01 | liable | oh, stop it. who cares about any of our thoughts about it. |
| 12:39.03 | amphi | superlinux: on the contrary, it's extremely common 'in nature' |
| 12:39.19 | superlinux | man ALAS!! |
| 12:39.25 | superlinux | back to debian |
| 12:39.40 | jelly-ho | Re: this unwanted topic, http://www.pvponline.com/ep3.php3 |
| 12:40.36 | jelly-ho | ... so, any thoughts about running mounting /tmp as tmpfs? O:-) |
| 12:41.10 | superlinux | just this and stop.. I don't need from you replies.. I am not saying shut up, god forbid : there are many common things but incorrect! |
| 12:41.44 | amphi | superlinux: 'incorrect'? |
| 12:41.59 | TBBle | Isn't /tmp used really early in the boot process? I guess you could mount it when the /tmp clearing is done... But RAM's more precious than disk-space anyway. Why waste it on your user's random crapdumps? |
| 12:42.11 | superlinux | or worng... |
| 12:42.32 | superlinux | and the human's duty to recorrect them |
| 12:42.45 | jelly-ho | TBBle: it'll go to disk anyway if there's too little ram. |
| 12:42.45 | Ronin | correct them? |
| 12:42.57 | amphi | superlinux: with fire and the sword? ;) |
| 12:43.05 | blondie | superlinux: stop talking crap |
| 12:43.15 | Ronin | and i havent farted so i know it wasnt me |
| 12:43.18 | jetscreamer | makes more sense to let them just die out |
| 12:43.23 | amphi | Ronin: heh |
| 12:43.40 | jetscreamer | i mean why do we cater to morons? let them walk in the street and get run over |
| 12:43.48 | superlinux | blondie, I am not and please.. I don't wanna argue... |
| 12:43.51 | jelly-ho | TBBle: the point would be to mount it asap, maybe right after root. So there's no need for /tmp cleaning any more. |
| 12:43.52 | jetscreamer | darwin is dead, killed by the moral majority |
| 12:43.54 | blondie | superlinux: sorry, but you are. |
| 12:44.04 | Ronin | jetscreamer: heh |
| 12:44.27 | TBBle | And frequently-used stuff in /tmp should end up in file cache... |
| 12:44.35 | jetscreamer | now lets talk about overpopulation control... |
| 12:44.38 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 12:44.39 | jetscreamer | j/k |
| 12:44.42 | jelly-ho | TBBle: indeed, so it's already in memory. |
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| 12:44.47 | TBBle | But the point is that the current /tmp clearing time is the time you _know_ no one's got anything persisten in /tmp |
| 12:44.59 | adaran | anyone know how to use reprepro? i cannot tell it to ask me for a passphrase for my gpg key |
| 12:45.13 | jetscreamer | the what? |
| 12:45.14 | TBBle | The balance to my mind is "start in RAM, push out the unwanted" versus "start on disk, keep the wanted". And put that way, I think I'm wrong. ^_^ |
| 12:45.15 | superlinux | jetscreamer, you wanna really talk abt overpopulation? |
| 12:45.16 | jelly-ho | TBBle: just saying it would be irrelevant. |
| 12:45.21 | jetscreamer | no |
| 12:45.27 | jetscreamer | note the j/k |
| 12:45.29 | adaran | and the glorious manpage says "use gpg-agent" which would be great, if i could just configure gpg then to use the agent by default |
| 12:45.32 | jetscreamer | it means just kidding |
| 12:45.35 | superlinux | ok |
| 12:45.36 | Ronin | test before you can have kids too ;) |
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| 12:46.09 | jetscreamer | heh i made a punny.... population... kidding... |
| 12:46.25 | PhoneManiac | weissi how do i use isdnvbox once installed ? |
| 12:46.32 | superlinux | jetscreamer, then (j/k) lets speek abt the new GNU command /bin/laden ! |
| 12:46.46 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 12:47.08 | jetscreamer | what is it laden with, and how much does it weigh |
| 12:47.09 | superlinux | I think they must renam kill as laden |
| 12:47.44 | liable | coconuts of course |
| 12:47.56 | jetscreamer | forsooth, methinks this subject is going nowhere |
| 12:48.12 | jetscreamer | why does a kernel package not honor /etc/kernel-pkg.conf |
| 12:48.31 | jetscreamer | it writes symlinks even though it's set to no |
| 12:48.37 | superlinux | so you someday you ll issue /bin/laden -9 |
| 12:48.43 | Ronin | jetscreamer: forsooth? never seen that word actually used except in books |
| 12:48.49 | weissi | PhoneManiac, sorry, I have no idea..., never used it, read the docs |
| 12:49.00 | jetscreamer | yeh well that's where i read it |
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| 12:49.17 | jetscreamer | methinks isn't all that common either |
| 12:49.20 | PhoneManiac | i would like to read 'em but i see noneù |
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| 12:49.50 | Zeroth405 | just installed debian -testing (took forever) (floppy install). no hardware is detected during bootup -- no ethernet adapters, my mouse doesnt work at all (yes its the right protocol and driver) and these things worked with debian -stable. during boot it complains udev is for 2.6 kernels only... what the hell is going on here? it froze (completely) when modprobing my eth adapters module (yes its the right one, it worked in |
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| 12:50.16 | pipeline | Zeroth405: etch doesn't support 2.4 kernels, you know |
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| 12:50.26 | cyzie | anybody know how if i want to send email from a server to say gmail, how do i accomplish it? i would prefer simple way rather than setup all those postfix or exim. please advice the simple way. i jsut need to send email. |
| 12:50.36 | Zeroth405 | pipeline, that would be nice if the installer gave me the option of a 2.6 kernel :-) |
| 12:50.44 | petemc | cyzie: exim has a nice debconf front end |
| 12:51.19 | Zeroth405 | pipeline, if I use aptitude to install a 2.6 kernel, dows it install it for me? (no coping to boot and updating grub?) |
| 12:51.41 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: if there's no network how will you ? |
| 12:52.00 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, I have internet if I don't reboot right after the testing install finishes. |
| 12:52.02 | fireba11 | Zeroth405: yes .. it will completely set it up |
| 12:52.08 | jetscreamer | ahh |
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| 12:52.18 | Ronin | cyzie: use a mail client and your isps mailsservers |
| 12:52.20 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: who is zeroth404 ? just out of curiosity |
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| 12:52.25 | jetscreamer | tab tab tab |
| 12:52.28 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, I could modprobe my eth module the last tiem I installed testing and had this same issue... |
| 12:52.38 | cyzie | petemc, can u suggest more simple way ? okay, say if i have exim4 installed , if i just follow the frontend, can i just use for sendmail after the frontend configuraiton ? |
| 12:52.42 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, thats me. Its logged in at home. |
| 12:52.46 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, I'm at work. |
| 12:52.46 | cyzie | Ronin, more deatils |
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| 12:52.56 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: this may be a job for #debian-boot but i'm not sure |
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| 12:53.10 | petemc | cyzie: certainly |
| 12:53.11 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: i hate udev anyway :) |
| 12:53.28 | liable | Zeroth405: if you install a kernel, grun shits get updated automagically |
| 12:53.29 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, why? its so much cleaner than devfs |
| 12:53.33 | sep | cyzie, exmi wuth your isp's mailservers as smarthost is a nice way. |
| 12:53.41 | Zeroth405 | liable, thanks |
| 12:53.44 | cyzie | petemc cyzie: certainly // sounds that u r very very familar and sure. i will give it a try. i have postfix installed should i remove it before i install exim4? |
| 12:53.52 | cyzie | sep more details |
| 12:53.55 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: box specific issues (it's really the initrd not udev that borks me) |
| 12:54.15 | petemc | cyzie: i use exim myself, if postfix has a debconf front end, you can use it.. |
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| 12:54.50 | jetscreamer | grun shits? |
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| 12:54.56 | jetscreamer | you mean grub stuff i guess |
| 12:55.23 | cyzie | petemc, how do i invoke exim frontend? |
| 12:55.24 | liable | yeah, i guess, i type very badly. :P |
| 12:55.25 | Zeroth405 | the floppy install has trouble with my 5-year old hardware. Half the time I boot it, it wouldn't detect my ethernet adapter. It would usually not give me the option of using stable, testing, or unstable - and when it did it would fail to download something and freeze. is this common or am I just having bad luck? |
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| 12:55.46 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: on the nic, i 'think' it's because udev isn't loading that your nick isn't loading |
| 12:55.52 | liable | Zeroth405: why not use the sarge floppies if they worked? |
| 12:55.52 | jetscreamer | also why theres no hw detection |
| 12:55.57 | petemc | cyzie: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 12:56.11 | cyzie | thanks petemc , i give it a try. |
| 12:56.12 | liable | Zeroth405: the etch inst is still bets |
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| 12:56.20 | Zeroth405 | liable, etch has software that I want that sarge does not. |
| 12:56.21 | liable | beta |
| 12:56.28 | jetscreamer | zeroth404: if you examine /etc/network/interfaces or so you'll see it doens't say auto eth0 up or whatever it's some weird udev thing |
| 12:56.32 | liable | Zeroth405: um, you can upgrade after? |
| 12:56.44 | PhoneManiac | There're no answering machines except for VOIP and ISDN ? |
| 12:56.45 | jetscreamer | what liable said |
| 12:57.02 | jetscreamer | PhoneManiac: if your nick is true, you want asterisk |
| 12:57.03 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, I'va played with ./interfaces a bit. |
| 12:57.26 | jetscreamer | if you change it back to the pre-udev format it wil lfunction Zeroth405 |
| 12:57.29 | Zeroth405 | liable, the floppies are the same for either install..... |
| 12:57.32 | PhoneManiac | it works with analog modems ? or voip/isdn's ? |
| 12:57.36 | liable | Zeroth405: no |
| 12:57.53 | jetscreamer | PhoneManiac: it's a pbx basically |
| 12:58.00 | liable | Zeroth405: you are saying the etch inst floppies are the same as the sarge ones? |
| 12:58.05 | Zeroth405 | liable, I had to install the base system which I assume is from -stable, then I changed stable to testing in /etc/apt/sources.list and installed all the goodies. |
| 12:58.13 | jetscreamer | PhoneManiac: if interested, /join #asterisk (need to be registered) |
| 12:58.14 | godmachine81 | does anyone have e17 installed ? |
| 12:58.15 | sep | PhoneManiac, it workes with analog phone cards (NOT modems) |
| 12:58.15 | Ronin | cyzie: open your mail client, put in the pop and smtp server info where it asks and your off to the races |
| 12:58.17 | liable | ok |
| 12:58.34 | liable | laters |
| 12:58.38 | fireba11 | Zeroth405 ? |
| 12:58.40 | PhoneManiac | so for a serial (rs-232 modem) there's no way ? |
| 12:58.44 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, huh? |
| 12:59.03 | godmachine81 | PhoneManiac, what are you trying to do? |
| 12:59.04 | fireba11 | Zeroth405 wth did you install stable just to upgrade to testing ? |
| 12:59.12 | cyzie | Ronin, how do i setup in that server? |
| 12:59.17 | sep | PhoneManiac, only if you have a serial attached phone adapter (not sure if one exsists) |
| 12:59.23 | cyzie | that server is managed remotely |
| 12:59.27 | jetscreamer | lol@liable/fireba11 |
| 12:59.30 | PhoneManiac | i just need as says before an application that starts when i turn on pc and answers to phone calls |
| 12:59.38 | Ronin | cyzie: no server is needed you use your isps, assumign of course your account with them comes with a mail account |
| 12:59.40 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, i only installed the base system, which is very little stuff. If you were following the conversation, I could not get the installer to install -testing without freezing or failing |
| 12:59.51 | godmachine81 | sep, yes they make rj 11 - rs 232 adapters |
| 12:59.53 | PhoneManiac | ithe problem is i've a 56k fax voice modem (analog-rs232) |
| 12:59.56 | beardy | PhoneManiac: vgetty? |
| 13:00.00 | fireba11 | Zeroth405 ah okay, sorry |
| 13:00.05 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, :-) |
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| 13:00.14 | Zeroth405 | are there separate floppies specifically for the -testing install? |
| 13:00.17 | PhoneManiac | whereas i found (with the help of those in room) sotware only for isdn and voip's |
| 13:00.26 | Intoxicator | PhoneManiac: ppp connection? |
| 13:00.27 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: my thoughts are get a sarge install working and stable before you upgrade then. (ymmv whatever) |
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| 13:00.31 | cyzie | Ronin, is there any website that record down the pop and smtp address of all the isp in the world ? |
| 13:00.32 | beardy | PhoneManiac: vgetty! |
| 13:00.33 | PhoneManiac | bardy let's try vgetty |
| 13:00.35 | liable | Zeroth405: erm, you said you installed testing floppy install.. not upgraded sarge to testing.. |
| 13:00.39 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: iirc yes |
| 13:00.44 | PhoneManiac | jsut hope is better than mgetty |
| 13:00.44 | PhoneManiac | ;) |
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| 13:00.51 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, I tried that. someone in here said that was a horrible way to go about it. |
| 13:00.59 | Ronin | cyzie: i doubt it but its not hard to figure out, heck call thier helpdesk,thats what youre paying them for |
| 13:01.05 | PhoneManiac | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.12 | sep | godmachine81, with driver for linux ? xaptel or dialogic ? |
| 13:01.15 | sep | zaptel |
| 13:01.21 | Intoxicator | 'k |
| 13:01.32 | cyzie | Ronin, okay |
| 13:01.33 | fireba11 | cyzie: obviously now .. why would you want such a thing ? |
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| 13:01.44 | MatBoy | is ICQ also in the same version availabe for linux ? |
| 13:01.59 | beardy | MatBoy: Lots of clients exist, yes. |
| 13:02.12 | beardy | MatBoy: gaim, for one |
| 13:02.17 | Zeroth405 | when I upgrade to testing, do I modify my sources.list entries to say "teesting" instead of "stable", or add "testing" ones and keep the "stable" ones as well? |
| 13:02.18 | godmachine81 | sep, i misread your statement evidently |
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| 13:02.29 | perlmonkey | hi guys |
| 13:02.32 | godmachine81 | i meant they make hardware adapters for rj 11 to rs 232 |
| 13:02.36 | Intoxicator | MatBoy: check out gaim |
| 13:02.41 | PhoneManiac | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.45 | MatBoy | beardy, But I want to use the ICQ-pager possibility |
| 13:02.51 | fireba11 | Zeroth405: would be wise to completely move to testing then .. so replace stable with testing, do apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:02.55 | Intoxicator | MatBoy: though there are 20 or so more |
| 13:02.56 | perlmonkey | I got an old Primax Colorado Direct (parallel port) scanner, can I use it in Linux? |
| 13:03.05 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, I wasnt sure if testing had everything a base system needed. |
| 13:03.10 | fireba11 | Zeroth405 you got a real reason to go with testing anyway ? |
| 13:03.13 | perlmonkey | i want to scan my stamp collection |
| 13:03.19 | liable | lol |
| 13:03.29 | liable | perlmonkey: visit sane website |
| 13:03.31 | MatBoy | Intoxicator, but do you know if the Online Pager function will work ? |
| 13:03.32 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: just change the word sarge to etch |
| 13:03.34 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, stable doesnt have programs like p-7zip or gtk-gnutella. |
| 13:03.39 | jetscreamer | or stable to testing |
| 13:03.42 | beardy | PhoneManiac: Perhaps it's been removed.. check the other getty:s, if someone have voice/phone capabilities. |
| 13:03.48 | fireba11 | Zeroth405: tried using backports ? |
| 13:03.49 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, they have dep problems with stable software |
| 13:03.49 | perlmonkey | liable: whats the url? |
| 13:04.02 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, I'd rather go -testing. its probably easier :-) |
| 13:04.13 | Zeroth405 | thanks for all your help guys =o) |
| 13:04.24 | liable | perlmonkey: google it, saves me having to. |
| 13:04.31 | perlmonkey | okay thanks liable |
| 13:04.49 | armadill0 | Here's a question about backports.org. How are they associated with the Debian project and how can I verify that their binaries are trustworthy? |
| 13:04.55 | PhoneManiac | mmm commands to modem can be sent only with minicom'-slike apps or can i do echo %cmd% > /dev/ttyS1 ? |
| 13:05.18 | jetscreamer | zeroth404: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ hmmm him go byebye |
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| 13:05.37 | Intoxicator | MatBoy: online pager, as in, being able to click on avatar of online contacts, to talk to them? |
| 13:05.44 | perlmonkey | woooooohooooo my scanner is supported by sane does a monkey dance |
| 13:05.44 | beardy | PhoneManiac: I don't think you can, but try.. otherwise, yes minicom or another terminalprogram. |
| 13:06.03 | sep | PhoneManiac, you can send data to your serialport, a quite common practice is configuring the modems for automatic dialying that create a transparent link. |
| 13:06.23 | Intoxicator | also look at picocom. simpler than minicom. |
| 13:06.23 | PhoneManiac | <sep> what ? |
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| 13:06.26 | sep | PhoneManiac, well... it was when people used modems :) |
| 13:06.58 | godmachine81 | fireball if i were you instead of labeling your sources as "testing" i would use "etch" that way it doesnt use testing repos after etch is final, otherwise you might be stuck with a very unstable system a few more months down the road |
| 13:07.39 | PhoneManiac | the main problem for me is how to send a wave file to the modem so it speaks it on the line ;) |
| 13:07.57 | fireba11 | godmachine81 for one, use tab :-D also i'm not using testing at all |
| 13:08.04 | sep | PhoneManiac, impossible on a modem |
| 13:08.05 | MatBoy | Intoxicator, yes indeed ! |
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| 13:08.11 | sep | you need a phone interface card for that |
| 13:08.14 | PhoneManiac | ? i did on windows |
| 13:08.19 | PhoneManiac | why can't in debian ? |
| 13:08.26 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, these backport things.... are they difficult? |
| 13:08.26 | godmachine81 | fireba11, is this better? |
| 13:08.27 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 13:08.27 | sep | PhoneManiac, then you have more then a modem |
| 13:08.31 | Intoxicator | MatBoy: that's the main function of instant messengers. including gaim, |
| 13:08.35 | Intoxicator | yes, works |
| 13:08.47 | PhoneManiac | ? |
| 13:08.47 | fireba11 | Zeroth405 not at all |
| 13:08.54 | sep | PhoneManiac, perhaps one of those modem /answeringmaching combos popular with hp long time ago |
| 13:09.09 | PhoneManiac | there's an at cmd to make the modem accept wave files |
| 13:09.14 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, and how would one go about configuring one? |
| 13:09.20 | PhoneManiac | the problem is how to give this cmd to the modem |
| 13:09.23 | PhoneManiac | and to file also |
| 13:09.25 | beardy | sep: Most modems can act as answering machines. |
| 13:09.40 | godmachine81 | PhoneManiac, you should be able to do that with the serial port on your computer, output it to a rj 11 adapter and just send the wav out via serial |
| 13:10.02 | Intoxicator | PhoneManiac: you're sure you're supposed to serially upload the audio file? my modem has 3.5 mm pole connectors for audio in/out - i thought they'd connect to a soundcard, for audio purposes. |
| 13:10.10 | Zeroth405 | !tell Zeroth404 about back-ports |
| 13:10.16 | jelly-ho | beardy: s/most modems/modems with voice support/ |
| 13:10.17 | Zeroth405 | !tell Zeroth404 about backports |
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| 13:10.20 | azeem | Zeroth405: please /msg the bot |
| 13:10.21 | PhoneManiac | mine has no input jacks |
| 13:10.26 | PhoneManiac | that's the problem |
| 13:10.27 | PhoneManiac | ;) |
| 13:10.37 | beardy | jelly-ho: Which is most modems, isn't it. |
| 13:10.41 | Zeroth405 | azeem, I wasn't sure what the bots name was :-) |
| 13:10.53 | PhoneManiac | godmachine81> u're tru ebut it requisres a circuit |
| 13:10.54 | PhoneManiac | ;) |
| 13:10.56 | beardy | PhoneManiac: Then you're screwed, probably. |
| 13:11.04 | jelly-ho | beardy: not where I stand. Of last 3 laptops I had, only the last one has voice support. |
| 13:11.13 | sep | beardy, that would be a bundled feuture unrelated to the modulator/demodulator part, |
| 13:11.21 | PhoneManiac | beardy why ? |
| 13:11.22 | beardy | jelly-ho: I'm talking real modems, not winmodem, or laptopcrap. |
| 13:11.33 | jetscreamer | why does a kernel package not honor /etc/kernel-pkg.conf |
| 13:11.36 | beardy | sep: Sure. |
| 13:11.41 | godmachine81 | PhoneManiac, what kind of circuit did it use in winblows? |
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| 13:11.56 | PhoneManiac | none the modem directly that's the issue |
| 13:12.04 | godmachine81 | oh |
| 13:12.06 | Zeroth405 | Could I essentiall use backports for my entire system? could I have a source-based debian? |
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| 13:12.14 | Zeroth405 | +y |
| 13:12.18 | godmachine81 | so you have an internal modem that has data-voice |
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| 13:12.19 | PhoneManiac | but on *nix i'm now able only to tell the modem at&F and atd |
| 13:12.26 | PhoneManiac | now way to send data's |
| 13:12.28 | fireba11 | Zeroth405 add the backports repos to your sources, put a preferences file to fix bakcports repros priority to really low and then install the few packages you need from there with an option to use from backports repository |
| 13:12.28 | jetscreamer | zeroth404: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 13:13.07 | godmachine81 | u should be able to hook up the phone line to the modem and map the modem as a sound output somehow |
| 13:13.21 | PhoneManiac | yes somehow ;) |
| 13:13.24 | godmachine81 | how you would go about it i dont know |
| 13:13.29 | godmachine81 | but it shouldnt be hard |
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| 13:14.30 | PhoneManiac | mmm there's a way/tool to open a serial port directly ? |
| 13:14.32 | jelly-ho | PhoneManiac: check out mgetty-voice or something else from apt-cache search 'getty.*voice' |
| 13:14.34 | michael117 | How can I check and manage current services running? |
| 13:14.46 | azeem | michael117: update-rc.d |
| 13:14.55 | godmachine81 | have you searched google for linux modem answering machine or linux modem utils |
| 13:15.04 | PhoneManiac | yes |
| 13:15.09 | PhoneManiac | but find only for isdn's |
| 13:15.14 | azeem | issue /etc/init.d/<service> start|stop|restart for manual management |
| 13:15.14 | PhoneManiac | and voip |
| 13:15.25 | MatBoy | Intoxicator, thanks ! |
| 13:15.31 | Intoxicator | michael117: check in /var/run, or via ps aux |
| 13:15.34 | godmachine81 | u find any ISDN stuff for internal isdn modems? |
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| 13:15.39 | godmachine81 | or are they all universal |
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| 13:15.45 | fireba11 | PhoneManiac: write a manual if you find out how to do it :-) |
| 13:15.48 | beardy | PhoneManiac: As jelly-ho said, mgetty-voice is probably what you want. |
| 13:15.51 | michael117 | Thanks. |
| 13:16.06 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, I downloaded the images from http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current//images/floppy/ |
| 13:16.07 | PhoneManiac | re-trying mgetty-voice |
| 13:16.13 | Intoxicator | michael117: manage via run level directiories, /etc/rc... |
| 13:16.24 | godmachine81 | mgetty-voice does it let you play sound files to the phone line ? |
| 13:16.25 | jetscreamer | http://www.google.com/linux?q=modem+answering+machine&restrict=linux http://linuxgazette.net/120/smith.html <--that |
| 13:16.27 | fireba11 | godmachine81 ISDN is almost always internal ... |
| 13:16.31 | michael117 | Ohh... |
| 13:16.41 | beardy | PhoneManiac: Improve searching skills. |
| 13:16.45 | jelly-ho | buying an answering machine might be cheaper than spending time trying to make it work on linux. ;-) |
| 13:16.49 | beardy | PhoneManiac: google, vgetty mgetty answering machine |
| 13:16.52 | jetscreamer | Zeroth405: yeah. there's the etch floppy link if you want |
| 13:16.55 | BlueBeret | hello, I think this problem is common, but I don't know where to go. there is some massive package conflict amongst the X11-related packages on my system, and I need to find out where is the problem and how to fix it. any suggestions? |
| 13:17.06 | PhoneManiac | i alreADY Installed getty stuffs |
| 13:17.10 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, I think thats where I went wrong :-) |
| 13:17.10 | godmachine81 | fireba11, its kinda funny that i have seen a lot more external ISDN modems than i have internal, yet i know that internal exists |
| 13:17.11 | PhoneManiac | and got nowhere... |
| 13:17.14 | Zeroth405 | jetscreamer, thanks a lot |
| 13:17.18 | PhoneManiac | tried asterisk also |
| 13:17.18 | jetscreamer | np |
| 13:17.20 | jetscreamer | hth |
| 13:17.32 | fireba11 | godmachine81: where do you live? :-) |
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| 13:17.41 | jelly-ho | godmachine81: we had an _ISA_ internal modem ;-) |
| 13:17.58 | jelly-ho | godmachine81: isdn, that is. |
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| 13:18.05 | abrotman | !tell godmachine81 about u |
| 13:18.07 | godmachine81 | fireba11, i refuse to answer that question, you could really make me look stupid |
| 13:18.15 | godmachine81 | fuck |
| 13:18.21 | abrotman | fireba11: arin.net |
| 13:18.22 | godmachine81 | abrotman, get off my god damn case |
| 13:18.25 | jetscreamer | tee uuu vee doubleu ex why and zee |
| 13:18.32 | fireba11 | godmachine81: got about 5 ISA and 2 CI ISDN-cards collecting dust here |
| 13:18.33 | beardy | godmachine81: Speak properly then. |
| 13:18.33 | abrotman | godmachine81: learn how to type |
| 13:18.39 | jetscreamer | speak? |
| 13:18.39 | fireba11 | PCI that is |
| 13:18.40 | BlueBeret | I typed 'apt-get install libxpm-dev' |
| 13:18.40 | godmachine81 | i know how to type |
| 13:18.48 | abrotman | no .. you don't |
| 13:18.57 | BlueBeret | and it asked me if I wanted to remove: |
| 13:19.01 | BlueBeret | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.01 | BlueBeret | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.05 | godmachine81 | i didnt know IRC was suppose to be so fucking proper / elegant |
| 13:19.07 | abrotman | fireba11: let's go with london |
| 13:19.25 | abrotman | godmachine81: why would we want to help you if you can't communicate properly? |
| 13:19.50 | fireba11 | abrotman godmachine81 well taht's an excuse then .. ISDN is much more common here in germany |
| 13:19.56 | godmachine81 | abrotman, if you cant distinguish between an U and YOU then you are are as stupid as I am for saying it |
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| 13:20.05 | jelly-ho | godmachine81: btw, whois says your ip belongs to "Alltel - London", but I can't see how that can make you look stupid. |
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| 13:20.20 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, washington? |
| 13:20.22 | BlueBeret | and trying to upgrade nvidia-glx says: Depends on: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8762 but cannot be installed |
| 13:20.30 | abrotman | godmachine81: you typed it. I'm assuming they teach proper spelling in england. Try to make your teacher proud. |
| 13:20.41 | godmachine81 | jelly-ho, no im not in washington and im not in london england |
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| 13:20.59 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, chicago, then. |
| 13:21.01 | godmachine81 | abrotman, there are more than one london ya know |
| 13:21.07 | godmachine81 | and yea i said "ya" |
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| 13:21.42 | godmachine81 | Zeroth405, im kind of close to nashville |
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| 13:21.52 | jsz | how do I install xorg with sarge |
| 13:21.58 | jsz | whats the apt source for it |
| 13:22.10 | azeem | jsz: does xfree86 not work for you? |
| 13:22.12 | jetscreamer | y due u n33d 2 b sew weeurd |
| 13:22.13 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, where did you get london from? |
| 13:22.21 | tralala | jsz: /msg dpkg backports |
| 13:22.28 | jsz | xfree86 is shit |
| 13:22.30 | jsz | it's old |
| 13:22.35 | abrotman | godmachine81: Yes .. you're correct. But it doesn't excuse your moronic typing. |
| 13:22.35 | Zeroth405 | jsz, :-) |
| 13:22.40 | perlmonkey | trying to use my scanner with pxscan. can anyone explain this: "This Port supports not the EPP-Mode. Please activate EPP-Mode or EPP + ECP-Mode!" |
| 13:22.46 | azeem | jsz: I suggest you try whether it works |
| 13:22.46 | godmachine81 | ok then i have moronic typing who gives a fuck |
| 13:22.49 | abrotman | *plonk* |
| 13:22.57 | godmachine81 | just because you cant interpret it doesnt mean no one else can |
| 13:22.58 | jsz | xorg works better |
| 13:23.00 | jsz | faster |
| 13:23.05 | beardy | !better |
| 13:23.05 | dpkg | better is, like, a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 13:23.08 | beardy | !sns syndrome |
| 13:23.08 | dpkg | sns syndrome is probably a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Software Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 13:23.17 | beardy | *doubleplonk* |
| 13:23.18 | jetscreamer | better faster stronger... duh...duhduh duh duh... |
| 13:23.24 | Zeroth405 | jsz, just select the xserver-xorg package |
| 13:23.27 | perlmonkey | microsaaaft |
| 13:23.27 | jetscreamer | steve austin! |
| 13:23.30 | jelly-ho | godmachine81: Sorry, can't be arsed to dig further. It was a decent effort though... I don't know where Arkansas is. |
| 13:23.37 | Zeroth405 | jsz, I think that will automatically remove xfree |
| 13:23.39 | godmachine81 | and id rather let abrotman run some kind of fucked up decryption tool just to figure out what im saying |
| 13:23.41 | jetscreamer | it's next to texas |
| 13:23.49 | perlmonkey | better, easier, faster, more secure than ever before. |
| 13:23.52 | abrotman | jelly-ho: land of the illiterate apparently |
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| 13:23.58 | godmachine81 | im not in Arkansas jelly-ho |
| 13:24.00 | azeem | sigh |
| 13:24.02 | pipeline | Zeroth405: Installing a 2.6 kernel and booting it should fixk a number of ploblems. |
| 13:24.11 | jetscreamer | !aolify abrotman |
| 13:24.13 | perlmonkey | a good OS should have all these qualities from the beginning, no |
| 13:24.14 | fireba11 | abrotman chicago area .. and his ISP got 6 friggin routers in between .. wtf ... |
| 13:24.17 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 13:24.22 | jetscreamer | is that the only response? |
| 13:24.26 | abrotman | fireba11: GeoIP! |
| 13:24.38 | jetscreamer | !literal aolify |
| 13:24.46 | fireba11 | abrotman just did a traceroute.... almost as effective :-) |
| 13:24.52 | perlmonkey | hi |
| 13:24.54 | beardy | jetscreamer: cmd: |
| 13:24.56 | perlmonkey | trying to use my scanner with pxscan. can anyone explain this: "This Port supports not the EPP-Mode. Please activate EPP-Mode or EPP + ECP-Mode!" |
| 13:24.58 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 13:25.03 | azeem | jetscreamer: please /msg the bot |
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| 13:25.20 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, somewhere in deleware? |
| 13:25.34 | fireba11 | abrotman the ISP is doing something wrong though .. i got 8 hops from germany to chicago including my own ISP .. and alltell got 6 hops alone |
| 13:25.37 | jelly-ho | perlmonkey: it has to do something with parallel port. |
| 13:25.39 | godmachine81 | abrotman, do you know what lol means? or is it not in your built in dictionary either? |
| 13:25.42 | sep | perlmonkey, it's often a setting in the pc bios |
| 13:25.46 | abrotman | fireba11: i'm shocked :) |
| 13:25.47 | azeem | godmachine81: please drop it |
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| 13:26.05 | perlmonkey | jelly-ho: thanks, any idea how to change the mode? |
| 13:26.21 | tralala | godmachine81: /msg dpkg lol |
| 13:26.28 | jelly-ho | perlmonkey: in bios. |
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| 13:26.42 | perlmonkey | shit. my printer will stop working if I do that? |
| 13:26.51 | godmachine81 | azeem, well i think abrotman should have kept his mouth fuckin shut to begin with, i dont know why he thinks he is so much better than me. but fuck him.. |
| 13:26.56 | jelly-ho | perlmonkey: no, but it might print a wee bit faster. ;-) |
| 13:27.00 | azeem | godmachine81: then /ignore |
| 13:27.01 | perlmonkey | haha cool |
| 13:27.03 | sep | perlmonkey, unlikley |
| 13:27.06 | perlmonkey | thanks guys |
| 13:27.09 | fireba11 | perlmonkey: with ecp+epp you can do nothing wrong |
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| 13:27.59 | godmachine81 | what are you all trying to prove with my IP? |
| 13:28.10 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, London KY, 40741, area code 606 |
| 13:28.24 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, its just fun to find out where people are from :-) |
| 13:28.27 | fireba11 | godmachine81 we#re just bored :-) |
| 13:28.27 | godmachine81 | Zeroth405, your getting closer |
| 13:28.43 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, thats the address of your ISP |
| 13:28.49 | godmachine81 | but still you just have the london hop |
| 13:28.52 | Fish-Face | Is it possible to install nvidia-glx in testing or unstable? If I try to install the package, it says, "Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8762 but it is not installable" |
| 13:29.16 | kronoz | !nvidia |
| 13:29.16 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 13:29.18 | godmachine81 | yea but thats like 100 miles from here |
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| 13:29.22 | abrotman | that you've learned proper english and know better than to type "u" |
| 13:29.28 | faber3 | hello everybody |
| 13:30.13 | faber3 | if i use debootstrap and use apt-get install to install a stock kernel, will this also take care of a proper ramdisk for a correct reboot ? |
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| 13:30.24 | godmachine81 | abrotman, that really didnt make much sense |
| 13:30.25 | Fish-Face | kronoz, I'm not trying to use nvidia.com's installer... But the packages listed won't install |
| 13:30.26 | tuv | Fish-Face, you'll have to build your kernel modules using module-assistant first, then nvidia-glx will install |
| 13:30.35 | jsz | whats thje package I need to install for x86? |
| 13:30.35 | Fish-Face | tuv, I've done m-a a-i nvidia |
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| 13:30.38 | abrotman | faber3: it should .. it should install the initrd tools you need and the initrd image |
| 13:30.44 | Fish-Face | but that installs 8178, not 8762 |
| 13:30.46 | abrotman | godmachine81: of course it didn't .. i think that's the point |
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| 13:31.01 | tuv | Fish-Face, do you have an nvidia-kernel-* package installed already? |
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| 13:31.11 | faber3 | abrotman: alright, and how does it know which modules to load? i am namely worried about a megaraid driver the box needs |
| 13:31.16 | godmachine81 | your point is that your trying not to make sense? |
| 13:31.24 | Fish-Face | tuv, I have a couple |
| 13:31.27 | abrotman | that you wouldn't understand |
| 13:31.37 | abrotman | faber3: 2.6 or 2.4 ? |
| 13:31.38 | Fish-Face | tuv, nvidia-kernel-source and nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-1-k7, I think |
| 13:31.42 | faber3 | abrotman: 2.6 |
| 13:31.54 | godmachine81 | oh i would have understood but your sentence structure is just not very "english" like |
| 13:31.54 | tuv | Fish-Face, if you have one for your running kernel, uninstall it and move the .deb somewhere else other than /usr/src so that it gets rebuilt |
| 13:31.55 | Fish-Face | the former is the right version, the latter is 8178 |
| 13:32.11 | tuv | Fish-Face, i'm talking about nvidia-kernel-2.6... |
| 13:32.17 | tuv | not the source |
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| 13:32.25 | brendan_ | hi. i'm trying to make a debian package for a peice of software, all is going well except for the menu entry. I put a file in /usr/share/menu and then run update-menu on postinst and prerm, but my menu entry is not added. Any ideas? |
| 13:32.28 | Fish-Face | tuv, keep the source? |
| 13:32.32 | abrotman | faber3: from what i understand, the megaraid and megaraid2 modules from 2.4 were merged into one for 2.6, and discover should find it. You can add that module to your initrd image manually if you like. |
| 13:32.32 | tuv | yup |
| 13:32.45 | Fish-Face | tuv, OK, applying |
| 13:32.46 | tuv | Fish-Face, so that m-a can rebuild the modules package |
| 13:32.58 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, has anyone figure it out yet? |
| 13:32.59 | faber3 | abrotman: well, it would be enough for me to see what apt-get did, is there a way? |
| 13:33.08 | godmachine81 | no |
| 13:33.10 | Fish-Face | On a sidenote, is it me or is nVidia fubared in etch, in general? |
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| 13:33.28 | jetscreamer | Fish-Face: the .run works |
| 13:33.31 | abrotman | faber3: you mean you want to see what's in your initrd image? |
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| 13:34.01 | jetscreamer | Fish-Face: as long as you have xserver-xorg-dev that is |
| 13:34.02 | superlinux | hi al |
| 13:34.04 | tiramisu | hi! when i try to exchange all newlines to | with sed, nothing happens. the command i use sed -e '/foo/,/bar/s/\n/"|"/g input >output |
| 13:34.10 | godmachine81 | Zeroth405, if you would try some stuff with Ethereal you might get it right tho |
| 13:34.11 | faber3 | abrotman: yes. i am doing a remote install without access to the box. so the reboot into my bootstrapped debian has to work |
| 13:34.18 | abrotman | though |
| 13:34.22 | godmachine81 | "tho" = though |
| 13:34.27 | godmachine81 | sorry abrotman |
| 13:34.28 | jetscreamer | thy |
| 13:34.34 | godmachine81 | my bad |
| 13:34.36 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:34.59 | faber3 | tiramisu: ask in #bash |
| 13:34.59 | jetscreamer | so wil abrotman bitch if i speak in old english? |
| 13:34.59 | abrotman | jetscreamer: that would technically be "thou" :) |
| 13:34.59 | Fish-Face | tuv, OK, moved the .debs out, is it the same command? "m-a a-i nvidia/" |
| 13:34.59 | Fish-Face | s/\//? |
| 13:35.17 | godmachine81 | jetscreamer, im sure he will put it in modern english |
| 13:35.22 | abrotman | faber3: look in /etc/mkinitrd/ |
| 13:35.23 | tuv | yup.. which .debs did you move? only the modules deb (nvidia-kernel-2.6...) |
| 13:35.28 | jetscreamer | modern? |
| 13:35.31 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, I dont have that at my disposal at the momeny |
| 13:35.32 | godmachine81 | abrotman = IRC locale translator |
| 13:35.36 | Fish-Face | tuv, there were no others |
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| 13:35.44 | faber3 | abrotman: have you used bootstrap? |
| 13:35.47 | tuv | Fish-Face, fine.. now m-a... |
| 13:35.51 | azeem | godmachine81: last warning, please stay on topic |
| 13:35.52 | superlinux | would you mind open this page for me using mozilla . Please tell me EXACTLY what happens with you when It trys to open. |
| 13:36.00 | superlinux | http://www.aub.edu.lb/ |
| 13:36.02 | godmachine81 | the topic right now is "english" isnt it |
| 13:36.06 | abrotman | faber3: not on a remote machine |
| 13:36.15 | Fish-Face | tuv, looking good, now to attempt to install nvidia-glx |
| 13:36.17 | godmachine81 | abrotman has been complaining about it for an hour yet you havent said a damn thing to him |
| 13:36.22 | abrotman | faber3: and i've heard many people say that megaraid causes problems |
| 13:36.25 | azeem | godmachine81: the topic is *always* Debian end-user support |
| 13:36.26 | faber3 | abrotman: well, but is there any traps i might fall into? |
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| 13:36.36 | ram_einstein | When I assign a physical volume to LVM, can that physical volume be used to house non-LVM partitions as well? |
| 13:36.37 | abrotman | faber3: erm .. when / is on the megaraid controller |
| 13:36.42 | azeem | we tolerate some off-topic discussions, but this english discussion stops *right here* |
| 13:36.51 | faber3 | abrotman: / is on the megaraid |
| 13:36.59 | superlinux | just open the page and tell me if it closes just on the time it tries to open |
| 13:37.00 | godmachine81 | you heard that didnt ya abrotman |
| 13:37.03 | abrotman | faber3: read /etc/mkinitrd/modules |
| 13:37.12 | tuv | Fish-Face, nvidia-kernel-2.6... should be prebuilt and installable by apt starting from the next kernel.. it's already in unstable, but hasn't made it to testing yet |
| 13:37.16 | godmachine81 | hope u find something better to complain about now |
| 13:37.24 | abrotman | idiot |
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| 13:37.26 | Fish-Face | tuv, bingo. Thanks very much! Why couldn't I find this on the 'net, out of interest? |
| 13:37.26 | faber3 | abrotman: its not there yet. still bootstrapping... really slow connection .. bugs me |
| 13:37.33 | abrotman | faber3: you already rebooted? |
| 13:37.35 | justice | hi, is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ??? |
| 13:37.38 | ram_einstein | When I assign a physical volume to LVM, can that physical volume be used to house non-LVM partitions as well? |
| 13:37.40 | tuv | Fish-Face, recent development! |
| 13:37.42 | Fish-Face | tuv, blindness on my part, or is it really a secret? :) |
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| 13:37.48 | jetscreamer | you boys need to just /ignore one another |
| 13:37.49 | Fish-Face | Haha :) |
| 13:38.02 | Fish-Face | Well, thanks anyway - just need to change xorg.conf and I should be off |
| 13:38.03 | faber3 | ram_einstein: if you use a partition, yes |
| 13:38.04 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, whats your phone number :-) |
| 13:38.11 | superlinux | hello ... |
| 13:38.12 | godmachine81 | haha |
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| 13:38.29 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, yeah. well could you at least give me your prefix? |
| 13:38.31 | ram_einstein | faber3: thanks |
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| 13:38.34 | godmachine81 | Zeroth405, 606-387_XXXX |
| 13:38.39 | k31th | guys, got a bit of problem. Iv installed bind9 however when i run it... its states it running however it doesnt apear to be! |
| 13:38.48 | godmachine81 | that just gave it away though |
| 13:38.55 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81 yep :-) |
| 13:38.57 | tralala | Zeroth405: I bet it's 555 something. It seems that all the US numbers are like that if you can trust the movies. |
| 13:38.57 | jetscreamer | my phone # is 867-5309 |
| 13:39.05 | godmachine81 | if u cant find the city now then you need help' |
| 13:39.06 | godmachine81 | lol |
| 13:39.20 | azeem | godmachine81, Zeroth405, jetscreamer: please stay on topic |
| 13:39.26 | azeem | or take this to a private discussion |
| 13:39.28 | jetscreamer | why does a kernel package not honor /etc/kernel-pkg.conf |
| 13:39.35 | jelly-ho | jetscreamer: jenni, is that you? |
| 13:39.41 | jetscreamer | i'm tired of repeating this ontopic convo |
| 13:39.46 | godmachine81 | azeem, do you even know what they are doing? |
| 13:39.47 | Zeroth405 | godmachine81, Albany, KY |
| 13:39.48 | jetscreamer | jenni is my daughter |
| 13:39.53 | godmachine81 | Zeroth405, yes thats it |
| 13:39.56 | jetscreamer | and i have a spas |
| 13:40.04 | superlinux | Allah! ALLAh ! arabs are taking control in the chan! |
| 13:40.08 | faber3 | is there a tool in debian to measure throughput of an ethernet connection? |
| 13:40.14 | azeem | superlinux: stop that |
| 13:40.17 | superlinux | LOL! |
| 13:40.18 | justice | hi, is there a way/tool to see which process is 32bit/64bit under x86_64 ??? |
| 13:40.25 | godmachine81 | lmao |
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| 13:40.39 | godmachine81 | superlinux, that was hilarious |
| 13:40.44 | jelly-ho | faber3: hm. there are a lot for udp and tcp connections. try iperf. |
| 13:40.56 | superlinux | godmachine81, I am a palestinian |
| 13:41.07 | jetscreamer | named rani |
| 13:41.08 | godmachine81 | lmao@Allah! ALLAh |
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| 13:41.19 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@71.31.1.47] by azeem |
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| 13:41.28 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, when you do a /whois on me, does it show my location? |
| 13:41.36 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, or just my ip |
| 13:41.36 | azeem | godmachine81: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being repeatedly off-topic |
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| 13:41.44 | azeem | Zeroth405: you're next it seems |
| 13:41.52 | jetscreamer | jsut ip |
| 13:41.53 | Zeroth405 | azeem, alright, I'm sorry. |
| 13:41.58 | jetscreamer | superlinux gives out his name |
| 13:42.02 | RolandU | hi all! I am looking for a tool that will allow me to put 4 pages of a pdf-document onto one page, so that i can print them out on less pages (it's a presentation, so font is large enough). Anyone know such a tool? |
| 13:42.28 | azeem | RolandU: you could convert to ps and use psnup |
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| 13:42.31 | fireba11 | Zeroth405 i get it resolved to a hostname |
| 13:42.39 | azeem | I'm not sure a direct PDF tool exists |
| 13:42.43 | jetscreamer | well yeah hostname too |
| 13:42.43 | abrotman | enscript used to do that .. but that was on AIX, and i haven't tried to do it in years |
| 13:42.44 | superlinux | I don't bother! i am cooling the rigid atmosphere |
| 13:42.49 | ciphergoth | I seem to be seeing absolutely gargantuan clock drift. I run ntpdate every minute or so, and it steps the clock forward by about four seconds each time. Something is badly miscalibrated. How can I make it recalibrate? |
| 13:43.19 | Zeroth405 | fireba11, join #tech-debate |
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| 13:43.28 | RolandU | azeem, thanks, i will try that |
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| 13:43.41 | faber3 | RolandU: there is also "pdfjoin" |
| 13:43.50 | ciphergoth | ntpd can't cope with the huge drift |
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| 13:44.07 | abrotman | ciphergoth: is the battery dead? |
| 13:44.12 | abrotman | though .. it's running .. shouldn't matter |
| 13:44.27 | ciphergoth | abrotman: I don't think the battery is dead |
| 13:44.36 | jetscreamer | does genrtc vs hiperf rtc make a difference to the internal clock? |
| 13:44.41 | superlinux | jetscreamer, would you mind tell me what will happen if you opened using mozilla http://www.aub.edu.lb/? will it close automatically just when it opens? |
| 13:44.43 | abrotman | ciphergoth: i think there's a drift file somewhere |
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| 13:44.47 | tuv | RolandU, you could try printing to a pdf printer with the proper options |
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| 13:45.36 | jetscreamer | where is .lb, libya? |
| 13:45.37 | abrotman | ciphergoth: and there are quite a few options to ntpdate .. one of them might help you |
| 13:45.41 | abrotman | !lb |
| 13:45.41 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lb is Lebanon |
| 13:45.50 | jetscreamer | it works fine btw superlinux |
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| 13:45.53 | RolandU | tuv, how do I get pdf-printers? |
| 13:46.07 | broadcaster | what does it mean if a program sends SIGCHLD? my sshd tells me it received SIGCHLD from sftp-server, which i put in a chroot for rssh... i have googled and found other people have the same problem. but no solutions... |
| 13:46.10 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.13 | superlinux | jetscreamer, lb is Lebanon.. it it not on my browser |
| 13:46.15 | tuv | RolandU, xprint, or cups-pdf |
| 13:46.26 | superlinux | jetscreamer, lb is Lebanon.. it is not working on my browser |
| 13:46.32 | jetscreamer | works here |
| 13:47.06 | superlinux | I donno what happens! |
| 13:47.16 | abrotman | ciphergoth: are you running ntpd or just ntp ? |
| 13:47.19 | superlinux | it closes right away! |
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| 13:47.28 | ciphergoth | ntp-simple |
| 13:47.31 | broadcaster | did i muss something in the fm? |
| 13:47.33 | superlinux | there must be an error with my squid server! |
| 13:47.33 | broadcaster | miss |
| 13:47.37 | ciphergoth | but I found the answer - it was in adjtimex |
| 13:47.51 | superlinux | what do you think could be the problem? |
| 13:47.52 | ciphergoth | I switched off ntpd, and ran ntpdate by hand a few times to estimate the rough drift |
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| 13:48.08 | ciphergoth | then I ran adjtimex --print, and found that the "tick" was the suspicious value 9399 |
| 13:48.13 | ciphergoth | I've set that to the more normal 10000 |
| 13:48.21 | abrotman | ciphergoth: ntpd can take a drift file that will tell it that your clock is messed up |
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| 13:48.23 | ciphergoth | and now the clock seems to keep roughly good time - enough for ntpd to do the rest |
| 13:48.42 | ciphergoth | it was moving out of sync faster than ntpd was prepared to shove to fix things |
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| 13:49.19 | azeem | superlinux: if that was a script, please deactivate it in here |
| 13:49.35 | abrotman | ciphergoth: basically you tell ntp.drift that your clock is wonky .. and it will change the time appropriately |
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| 13:49.56 | ciphergoth | I think telling adjtimex to un-wonk my clokc has done the trick |
| 13:50.18 | helpmepls | hi, with many programs such as nerolinux vlc etc menu and i-face got fixed size boldy characters i tried to use gtk-theme-switch but didn't help how do i make these apps use system fonts ? |
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| 13:51.02 | k31th | couldn't open pid file '/var/run/bind/run/named.pid' |
| 13:51.07 | jetscreamer | yes helpmepls made sense ppl |
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| 13:51.14 | jetscreamer | kinda |
| 13:51.20 | jetscreamer | if you've been there |
| 13:51.20 | helpmepls | ? |
| 13:51.37 | helpmepls | issues with fonts in some apps |
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| 13:51.41 | helpmepls | that's the question |
| 13:51.42 | superlinux | jetscreamer, what ? |
| 13:51.50 | superlinux | ask.. |
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| 13:52.07 | superlinux | aha! |
| 13:52.36 | jetscreamer | helpmepls: i don't know how to fix it, but i do know what you mean |
| 13:52.47 | helpmepls | ok ;) |
| 13:52.50 | superlinux | I did not get it... that was the fastest and most vague question I ever seen! |
| 13:52.53 | superlinux | LOL! |
| 13:52.54 | jetscreamer | even though your report was garbled |
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| 13:53.18 | jetscreamer | his apps are using fonts that are too big now |
| 13:53.33 | jetscreamer | he wants to know how to get them to use decent/system fonts |
| 13:53.38 | jetscreamer | sized |
| 13:53.46 | jetscreamer | right? |
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| 13:54.36 | superlinux | any one you may ask me using voice chat on skypeID "ranixlb" |
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| 13:55.35 | abrotman | superlinux: come on .. skype isn't even in debian |
| 13:55.48 | helpmepls | superlinux take a clue here on what i said : http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2305/photo6xd.png |
| 13:56.03 | superlinux | ok |
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| 13:57.13 | jouke | is there a way to see in what groups you are? I am experimenting with ldap authentication. |
| 13:57.25 | jelly-ho | jouke: id , id -a |
| 13:57.26 | superlinux | helpmepls, try the program demo recorder... it can help demo your actions done on your screen and record mouse movements with your voice |
| 13:57.31 | jetscreamer | helpmepls: it's probably a result of xorg.conf font paths not being correct or extensive enough... but i'm not sure. |
| 13:57.41 | helpmepls | i use xfree not xorg |
| 13:57.48 | jetscreamer | same principle |
| 13:57.52 | superlinux | helpmepls, you think they are very small? |
| 13:58.02 | jetscreamer | yo can practically interchange xorg.conf and XF86Config-4 |
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| 13:58.05 | superlinux | well get that on high resolutions |
| 13:58.13 | helpmepls | they were very small then i install xfonts-transcoded |
| 13:58.14 | superlinux | gnome has the solution |
| 13:58.25 | helpmepls | and they got the right size but theyre bulky |
| 13:58.29 | jouke | thanks jelly-ho ! |
| 13:58.35 | helpmepls | i'wanna apps use system fonts not fixed size ones |
| 13:58.53 | jetscreamer | tldp.org font section is all i can suggest |
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| 13:59.42 | superlinux | there is a button that will raise the points per inch in the "details" button of gnome-font-properties |
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| 14:00.38 | superlinux | high resolution can force you on small fonts |
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| 14:01.26 | abrotman | helpmepls: is this on sarge or etch or sid? |
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| 14:01.30 | helpmepls | sarge |
| 14:01.41 | superlinux | helpmepls, me too |
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| 14:02.11 | superlinux | helpmepls, do what I tell you and you won't regret it |
| 14:02.20 | abrotman | i'm not even sure vlc uses gtk |
| 14:02.27 | helpmepls | tell ;) |
| 14:02.30 | superlinux | abrotman, it uses |
| 14:02.32 | jsz | whats the line I have to add for xorg on sarge? something like deb http://www.backports.org/ main ?? |
| 14:03.15 | abrotman | superlinux: it doesn't depend on gtk or gnome or any such thing |
| 14:03.15 | helpmepls | yes it uses and on my side if i enable skins interface it crashed too ;9 |
| 14:03.15 | abrotman | that i can see anyways |
| 14:03.15 | superlinux | ok the interface fooled me then |
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| 14:03.21 | abrotman | helpmepls: are you on gnome or kde or what? |
| 14:03.25 | helpmepls | kde |
| 14:03.31 | helpmepls | 3.5 |
| 14:03.32 | abrotman | ah .. vlc uses wx |
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| 14:03.47 | abrotman | that's why it looks like gtk |
| 14:03.58 | superlinux | abrotman, yes correct |
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| 14:04.05 | abrotman | (though .. should probably look like Qt .. but whatever) |
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| 14:04.22 | abrotman | superlinux: yes .. i know |
| 14:04.27 | helpmepls | so <superlinux> there's a fix ? |
| 14:04.35 | noshitheel | hi dudes |
| 14:04.36 | superlinux | yes I told you |
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| 14:04.58 | superlinux | check if it works |
| 14:05.03 | helpmepls | this ] <superlinux> there is a button that will raise the points per inch in the "details" button of gnome-font-properties |
| 14:05.06 | helpmepls | ? |
| 14:05.15 | abrotman | !gtk1 font |
| 14:05.17 | abrotman | !gtk font |
| 14:05.19 | abrotman | bah |
| 14:05.32 | noshitheel | has anyone proble with QuodLibet and Last.fm plugin ? i update today and no subscription works today.... :-( |
| 14:05.41 | stoned | talk to abrotman |
| 14:05.48 | stoned | noshitheel, I use amarok :D |
| 14:05.56 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: <dpkg> exceeded allowed forked count (shm 767197186): Search, Debian |
| 14:06.01 | jelly-ho | aptitude's searching for alternate dependency resolutions is acting funny. I think I don't want any "resolutions" for "aptitude install vlc" resulting in "vlc [not installed]". |
| 14:06.06 | superlinux | helpmepls, yes |
| 14:06.18 | abrotman | noshitheel: it sends your data .. i don't think it can actually play it |
| 14:06.23 | stoned | abrotman, did you ever get last.fm working with quodlibet |
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| 14:06.29 | superlinux | but I don think it'll work cos it's not gtk! |
| 14:06.33 | abrotman | !gtk fontsize |
| 14:06.33 | dpkg | If gtk1 fonts are fucked and gtk-theme-switch won't fix them, copy a file from /etc/gtk/gtkrc.$LOCALE to ~/.gtkrc and replace the specified font with whatever you like from xfontsel. |
| 14:06.34 | superlinux | helpmepls, but I don think it'll work cos it's not gtk! |
| 14:06.46 | abrotman | stoned: it just sends your listening preferences to last.fm |
| 14:06.49 | noshitheel | abrotman : the problem is that in the plugins window, there's no plugin |
| 14:07.07 | noshitheel | abrotman : the plugin window of quodlibet i mean |
| 14:07.07 | abrotman | noshitheel: install .. the plugin package? |
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| 14:07.50 | noshitheel | abrotman : yeah, i tried. only copy qlscrobble in /usr/share/quodlibet/plugins , right ? |
| 14:07.53 | superlinux | abrotman, don't you think that helpmepls should be using the wx method for fonts? |
| 14:07.54 | helpmepls | my problem isn't the size however but the font face (family) |
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| 14:08.15 | abrotman | noshitheel: i didn't have to copy anything |
| 14:08.36 | abrotman | superlinux: afaik .. it should use his gtk font selection .. but i don't use vlc much |
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| 14:08.40 | helpmepls | owz about the wx method ? |
| 14:08.45 | ste | hi all. using sid. I have an error since 4/5 days, that prevents - for example - xine or smb:// protocol in KDE to work: gconv_db.c:232: __gconv_release_step: Assertion `step->__end_fct == ((void *)0)' failed. |
| 14:09.11 | abrotman | !bts |
| 14:09.11 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 14:09.17 | noshitheel | abrotman : damn. what have you done so for using last.fm with quodlibet so ? |
| 14:09.34 | abrotman | noshitheel: to listen or to send my listening choices? |
| 14:09.51 | RolandU | faber3, i can't find any option for pdfjoin that will do what I want... |
| 14:10.23 | helpmepls | superlinux> pls tells omething ;) |
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| 14:10.30 | S0UL_0F_R00T | hi there for anybody, i have someone pratice with debian but i 'm learning in use of an ldap auth mechanism, if have somebody here could help i thank's (sorry for my poor vocabulary.) ? |
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| 14:11.03 | abrotman | !es |
| 14:11.03 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 14:11.30 | noshitheel | abrotman : yes. don't you use qlsscrobbler here http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Plugins/QLScrobbler ? |
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| 14:12.35 | abrotman | noshitheel: i thought last.fm had stopped allowing people to play through other programs |
| 14:12.51 | S0UL_0F_R00T | thankÅ› dpkg but my language do not is a problem but the documentation of some terms in portuguese turns a friendly human help needed in other places. over Brazil |
| 14:12.51 | dpkg | S0UL_0F_R00T: no worries |
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| 14:13.06 | jsz | Wharts the line I need to add to sources.list to use backports for sarge? |
| 14:13.07 | abrotman | noshitheel: and you could only send your listening data to last.fm |
| 14:13.14 | abrotman | !tell jsz about backports |
| 14:13.21 | abrotman | jsz: there's a package there that will explain it |
| 14:13.28 | S0UL_0F_R00T | dpkg i don't worry. |
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| 14:13.34 | jsz | I have no mouse and browser |
| 14:13.48 | jsz | please can you save me heaps of time and just tell me the line |
| 14:13.50 | noshitheel | abrotman : no, i still send my listening yesterday to last.fm |
| 14:13.57 | jsz | no x |
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| 14:14.22 | abrotman | jsz: you need to read what they say there |
| 14:14.27 | abrotman | use w3m if you have to |
| 14:14.29 | Myon | jsz: use screen |
| 14:14.40 | jsz | I dont have much time |
| 14:14.44 | jsz | come on |
| 14:14.46 | abrotman | no time to read? |
| 14:14.52 | jsz | I've read it before |
| 14:14.56 | abrotman | no time to learn how to pin so you don't screw up your entire machine ? |
| 14:14.57 | jsz | I have NO X |
| 14:15.01 | jsz | no mouse |
| 14:15.03 | abrotman | so? |
| 14:15.05 | Myon | dpkg: tell jsz about screen |
| 14:15.08 | jsz | I can't copy and paste urls |
| 14:15.23 | petemc | s/cant/dont know how to/ |
| 14:15.23 | abrotman | use gpm if you can't remember a URL to type in .. |
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| 14:15.28 | jsz | fucken debian |
| 14:15.31 | jelly-ho | jsz: use links, elinks, w3m or lynx to browse the web without X. |
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| 14:15.40 | petemc | thats the spirit |
| 14:15.41 | stoned | lol |
| 14:15.46 | Ronin | ok bye bye then jsz |
| 14:15.54 | jsz | stupid pos |
| 14:15.57 | abrotman | yay! |
| 14:15.59 | S0UL_0F_R00T | one yuopyy for patrick |
| 14:16.05 | S0UL_0F_R00T | hehehehe |
| 14:16.06 | ktwilight | has anyone got lighttpd running on sarge? |
| 14:16.25 | petemc | ktwilight: i did have for rails stuff, only briefly tho |
| 14:16.33 | BBW | Hi there |
| 14:16.43 | ktwilight | there isn't a stable package though. did you install from source? |
| 14:16.45 | S0UL_0F_R00T | has anyone with have patiance and pratice with ldap authentication in sarge ? |
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| 14:18.11 | petemc | ktwilight: from source, yeah - im using apache2 and fastcgi now tho |
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| 14:18.25 | ktwilight | hmm... |
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| 14:18.46 | ktwilight | i'm just checking on the dependencies of lighttpd, and...it can break sarge. :/ |
| 14:18.48 | BBW | Can some one help me out im from the Netherlands , so my english not that good , i have elive on my computer ,and its good but my grub is bad someone know about grub installation |
| 14:18.55 | ktwilight | how does apache2 compare with lighttpd? |
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| 14:19.17 | cr3 | is there a way to check the integrity of a package? |
| 14:19.21 | abrotman | BBW: #elive please |
| 14:19.21 | pipeline | ktwilight: They're not comparable. |
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| 14:19.26 | abrotman | cr3: debsums |
| 14:19.29 | petemc | ktwilight: the devs seem happy with fastcgi |
| 14:19.45 | ktwilight | not comparable in what sense pipeline? |
| 14:19.47 | BBW | oke thanks abrotman |
| 14:19.50 | S0UL_0F_R00T | BBW the grub it's simple ? |
| 14:20.00 | S0UL_0F_R00T | what i made to help? |
| 14:20.09 | pipeline | ktwilight: lighttpd is close to the simplest possible http server, hence its name. |
| 14:20.27 | pipeline | ktwilight: Apache is the opposite extreme; it's a complete dev framework for HTTP applications. |
| 14:20.30 | BBW | cant boot from harddisk soul of root |
| 14:20.34 | cr3 | abrotman: cheers! I've been looking for that for a long time, that is going to be really useful for me. |
| 14:20.40 | ktwilight | hmm... |
| 14:20.51 | pipeline | ktwilight: Hell, it's more than that: It's a runtime for HTTP applications. It's the libc.so of the WWW world :) |
| 14:20.57 | abrotman | cr3: enjoy |
| 14:20.58 | ktwilight | a |
| 14:21.02 | abrotman | BBW: #elive |
| 14:21.10 | ktwilight | hmm... |
| 14:21.23 | ktwilight | i guess then i must learn how to strip down apache2 to its barebones. |
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| 14:21.28 | stew | abrotman: you rang? |
| 14:21.33 | abrotman | stew: hehe |
| 14:21.39 | S0UL_0F_R00T | BBW the file called menu.lst under the /boot/grub describes the device entry point and kernel options needed to boot, please cofer it? |
| 14:21.55 | abrotman | S0UL_0F_R00T: go to #elive with BBW .. elive is not Debian |
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| 14:22.11 | BBW | ok |
| 14:22.24 | stoned | didn't igor used to say that |
| 14:22.41 | S0UL_0F_R00T | soeey i use Debian under potato's age. |
| 14:22.45 | stoned | from that count duckula cartoon... "You rang" hehe |
| 14:23.01 | ndis | hi, someone knows a driver for a SiS 163 U - 0457:0163 - WLan USB-Adapter ? |
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| 14:25.23 | S0UL_0F_R00T | has anyone with have patience and pratice with ldap authentication in sarge, please? |
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| 14:25.37 | infal | hey all |
| 14:25.54 | infal | how can i configure langeage toggle |
| 14:25.55 | noshitheel | abrotman : in fact you are using quodlibet but not last.fm, right ? |
| 14:25.57 | infal | buttons |
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| 14:26.07 | infal | for language shift |
| 14:26.12 | fhffhqvb | infal on #debian #knoppix |
| 14:26.18 | abrotman | noshitheel: i use last.fm player to listen to last.fm .. but i use QL for stuff i have locally |
| 14:26.21 | infal | so ?: |
| 14:26.32 | fhffhqvb | !knoppix |
| 14:26.33 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distro which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ |
| 14:26.33 | abrotman | noshitheel: and QL can send last.fm your listening items |
| 14:26.44 | infal | hmm |
| 14:27.22 | noshitheel | abrotman : and the sendings of your listenings items still works in QL |
| 14:27.27 | noshitheel | ? |
| 14:27.36 | abrotman | noshitheel: as far as i know .. yes |
| 14:27.48 | abrotman | i don't check last.fm's site that often |
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| 14:28.16 | infal | Section "InputDevice" |
| 14:28.16 | infal | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.16 | infal | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.16 | infal | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.16 | infal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:28.16 | christor | Is there UK guys here? |
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| 14:28.40 | Ronin | christor: maybe, why so specific? |
| 14:28.48 | fhffhqvb | !fist infal |
| 14:28.53 | ndis | hi, someone knows a driver for a SiS 163 U - 0457:0163 - WLan USB-Adapter ? |
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| 14:29.03 | infal | is this ok or not ? |
| 14:29.06 | christor | Ronin: hehe :) I need a proxy UK to look the soccer match in live via bbc site |
| 14:29.14 | infal | mb some error there ? |
| 14:29.16 | abrotman | infal: are you running Knoppix or Debian ? |
| 14:29.23 | der0b | has anyone here got madwifi-ng & wpa_supplicant working on sarge with a wgt311t card? |
| 14:29.28 | kspath | christor: How is that debian related in ANY way? |
| 14:29.28 | Ronin | christor: dont bother you wont get on anyhow |
| 14:29.30 | infal | i am ion debian now |
| 14:29.33 | stew | infal: what version of debian? |
| 14:29.34 | christor | der0b: yeap me I had prob |
| 14:29.35 | abrotman | christor: ask #worldcup |
| 14:29.40 | noshitheel | abrotman : and how did you install the plugin ? |
| 14:29.42 | jelly-home | noshitheel: I used last.fm and xmms-scrobbler for a while and xmms sent the data to lastfm. Well, sometimes. The plugin appeared to be buggy. |
| 14:29.43 | abrotman | infal: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 14:29.49 | infal | hmm lates i guess |
| 14:29.51 | abrotman | noshitheel: via apt-get |
| 14:29.54 | der0b | christor: was it a prob authenticating to the driver? |
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| 14:30.07 | christor | der0b: netgear not worked and I changed for the dsl 520dlink and first time it was ok |
| 14:30.17 | infal | abortman ? |
| 14:30.17 | christor | der0b: I think the 311 .. doent work fine |
| 14:30.20 | abrotman | infal: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 14:30.28 | der0b | I hate netgear more everyday |
| 14:30.34 | noshitheel | abrotman : damned, i didn't it was available via apt-get |
| 14:30.36 | infal | where should i put it ? |
| 14:30.43 | abrotman | in a terminal |
| 14:30.48 | christor | der0b: when you launch the wpa_supllicant I had no AP found ... |
| 14:30.53 | abrotman | noshitheel: which version of debian ? |
| 14:31.05 | cr3 | is there a way to extract the control information from an installed package? I looked at dpkg --control and that only works on package files |
| 14:31.13 | abrotman | ar x |
| 14:31.14 | christor | der0b: I changed for dsl 520 of dlink and , yop it worked |
| 14:31.18 | infal | ii libc6 2.3.6-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 14:31.20 | noshitheel | abrotman : the unstable |
| 14:31.26 | infal | abortman |
| 14:31.32 | der0b | k. maybe I'll just scrap this and run a wire |
| 14:31.40 | der0b | thanks christor, much appreciated |
| 14:31.47 | ndis | hi, someone knows a driver for a SiS uid_ 0457:0163 - WLan USB-Adapter ? |
| 14:31.48 | stew | cr3: its in /var/lib/dpkg/status you might wanna look at grep-status from the grep-dctrl packagr |
| 14:31.51 | infal | so what now ? |
| 14:31.56 | abrotman | noshitheel: http://packages.debian.org/testing/sound/quodlibet-plugins |
| 14:32.23 | christor | der0b: no prob , I searched a lot too , |
| 14:32.30 | stew | infal: if you want us to look at your xorg.conf put it into a pastebin /msg dpkg paster ; please also include the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 14:32.49 | der0b | yeah, this has been making me crazy for days now, and nothing has worked |
| 14:32.50 | noshitheel | abrotman : thx a lot |
| 14:33.13 | abrotman | noshitheel: try that .. works fine for me .. as much as i can tell anyways |
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| 14:34.30 | S0UL_0F_R00T | has anyone used ldap authentication in sarge and maybe gives me a help i thank's ? |
| 14:34.59 | abrotman | !ldap |
| 14:34.59 | dpkg | hmm... ldap is TYPE /join #LDAP NOW! or a Lightweight Directory Access Protocol, see http://www.openldap.org for more information. a client/server protocol for accessing a directory service. It is a lightweight version of the X.500 protocol. http://howto.aphroland.org/, or openldap's server is available in the slapd package |
| 14:35.39 | ndis | hi, someone knows a driver for a SiS uid_ 0457:0163 - WLan USB-Adapter ? |
| 14:35.54 | fhffhqvb | ndis: google? |
| 14:36.19 | kspath | abrotman: How well does apt-cache search ldap work for you? |
| 14:36.22 | ndis | google's way make my system crash and nothing more |
| 14:36.26 | S0UL_0F_R00T | thank dpkg but some troubles i have try becomes under locations of you indicate to me?... |
| 14:36.26 | dpkg | gern geschehen, S0UL_0F_R00T |
| 14:36.30 | kspath | abrotman: I thought it was great. |
| 14:37.38 | S0UL_0F_R00T | dpkg i could not read or write in german. |
| 14:37.43 | stew | S0UL_0F_R00T: dpkg is a bot |
| 14:38.10 | kspath | abrotman: Does #debian do support of all protocols like smtp and nntp and pop3? Does #debian support special purposes/needs for PAM or MySQL or PostgreSQL or OpenLDAP? |
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| 14:39.02 | noshitheel | abrotman : the last.fm plugins isn't in the .deb, or i haven't seen it |
| 14:39.08 | S0UL_0F_R00T | very thank 's stew |
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| 14:39.36 | Tomze | noshitheel: search for audioscrobler |
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| 14:40.03 | kazukisan | I got the 64bit version of debian is there a way to install or have apt only get 32bit packages |
| 14:40.34 | kazukisan | when i try to install wine 32bit from site, it whines about my comp being 64 bit |
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| 14:40.48 | noshitheel | Tomze : i haven't it in my QL plugins :-( |
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| 14:41.37 | ndis | hi, someone knows a driver for a SiS uid_ 0457:0163 - WLan USB-Adapter ? |
| 14:42.06 | Tomze | noshitheel: i dont follow.. soory :) but i used the one for xmms/beep an d got it from the repos... that would be a dev package :) |
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| 14:42.56 | Tomze | noshitheel: *deb package. ups (horizontal position and laptop is not good) |
| 14:43.05 | noshitheel | Tomze : i had installed several week ago the plugin manually in /usr/share/quodlibet/plugins and today it doesn't work anymore |
| 14:43.52 | Tomze | noshitheel: you dont think last.fm is the problem? i know they are makeing some big changes |
| 14:44.26 | noshitheel | Tomze : the problem is that i don't see anymore the last.fm plugin in QL |
| 14:44.56 | Tomze | hmmm |
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| 14:45.26 | noshitheel | yeah, it's strange |
| 14:45.39 | abrotman | noshitheel: was there for me |
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| 14:47.11 | Dantix | hi all!, is possible to undelete files? how? I using ext3 |
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| 14:48.31 | petemc | Dantix: not really, no |
| 14:48.51 | Dantix | petemc: thanks... |
| 14:49.12 | noshitheel | abrotman: i guess it's QL 0.21 |
| 14:49.21 | abrotman | noshitheel: huh ? |
| 14:49.28 | abrotman | pseubodot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 14:50.24 | noshitheel | abrotman : i think that QL 0.21 doesn't work with audioscrobbler |
| 14:50.58 | abrotman | noshitheel: check the BTS |
| 14:51.08 | noshitheel | abrotman : i tried with the 0.18 and it works |
| 14:51.25 | noshitheel | abrotman : sorry, what's the BTS ? |
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| 14:52.06 | Maulkin | !bts |
| 14:52.06 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 14:52.07 | pseubodot | abrotman!!! |
| 14:52.17 | pseubodot | abrotman: we just got power back to the building. yay. |
| 14:52.18 | noshitheel | thx |
| 14:52.30 | pseubodot | abrotman: there's an embarassed but quite alive worker outside who breeched a live main |
| 14:52.51 | pseubodot | abrotman: he probably wishes he was dead, but at least the insulation on his tools protected him |
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| 14:57.20 | faber3 | how can i see if a maschine has HT or 2 CPUs ? |
| 14:58.27 | faber3 | for a HT cpu should i use an SMP kernel or normal one? |
| 14:58.49 | S0UL_0F_R00T | smp |
| 14:59.35 | abrotman | pseubodot: eh .. did you just get back from japan? |
| 14:59.43 | stew | faber3: for a hypterthreaded machine, you'd see "ht" ihn the flags line of /proc/cpuinfo |
| 14:59.58 | faber3 | stew: ah, ok |
| 14:59.59 | stew | faber3: and you want an smp kernel if you want to take advantage of the hyperthreading |
| 15:00.21 | faber3 | mmhhh... why does the linux-image want to install the linux-source ?? |
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| 15:02.41 | noshitheel | brotman : nothing on the btq |
| 15:02.44 | noshitheel | bts |
| 15:02.51 | abrotman | abrotman? |
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| 15:03.16 | stew | faber3: what do you mean? can you show us the actual commmand and the actual input? |
| 15:03.35 | faber3 | stew: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 15:03.43 | pseubodot | abrotman: over a month ago |
| 15:03.46 | pseubodot | abrotman: where ya been?! |
| 15:03.47 | jsz | hi |
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| 15:03.51 | faber3 | if i use kernel-image it does not want to install the source. this is in "testing" |
| 15:03.53 | abrotman | pseubodot: you've been hiding on seul! |
| 15:04.05 | stew | faber3: err i meant output. can you pastebin the actual output of the apt-get install command? |
| 15:04.06 | noshitheel | abrotman : soory, forgot a letter oups |
| 15:04.19 | plasmoduck | I need help setting up my Cannon BJC-2100SP USB |
| 15:04.20 | abrotman | noshitheel: i run testing .. seems to work fine .. |
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| 15:05.04 | S0UL_0F_R00T | faber3 install the build tools and sources and make the correct kernel for your machine. |
| 15:05.08 | faber3 | stew: http://pastebin.com/706592 |
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| 15:05.13 | noshitheel | abrotman : and were did you put qlscrobbler.py ? |
| 15:05.29 | abrotman | i didn't do anything .. itj ust worked :) |
| 15:05.31 | faber3 | S0UL_0F_R00T: no time, the maschine has a 8 KB /sec connection |
| 15:05.58 | noshitheel | abrotman: you did nothing and audioscrobbler was installed ? |
| 15:06.00 | S0UL_0F_R00T | ahh |
| 15:06.12 | stew | faber3: please go to #knoppix for help with knoppix |
| 15:06.46 | noshitheel | abrotman: i got an error with the 0.20 |
| 15:07.03 | noshitheel | 0.20.1 |
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| 15:10.07 | maxxle | I've a problem with cups here. In '/etc/printers.conf' there is one printer. In my Webinterface i have 2 printers listed. I can't delete/modify the printer although I'm root. |
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| 15:10.34 | plasmoduck | maxxle: what web interface are you using? |
| 15:10.53 | maxxle | Thatone that is running on port 631? |
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| 15:11.06 | plasmoduck | whats it called? |
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| 15:11.22 | maxxle | It's the one that is integrated into Cups. |
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| 15:12.38 | noshitheel | abrotman : finally it works |
| 15:12.54 | noshitheel | shouldn't have to use unstable in fact |
| 15:13.46 | itchi | Hi guys, I try to setup my ATI Readeon 9600SE. So i have installed the differents deb fglrx of http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html and have setup my XFree4-Conf file. But i still not have 3D. Like Foobillard not work correctly here. But to crazy Foobilliard. I want to play it on my sytem :-/ |
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| 15:14.45 | itchi | Ithe output of 'fglrxinfo' Show me 'Mesa GLX Indirect', so i have no 3D ?? |
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| 15:17.01 | itchi | I need informations (a website or so) with info how to setup My ATI 9600SE. It's looks simply to do, but it not work. I'm sure i forget somethings. But i think, like what i have read. That my card work with Xorg, and not with XFree. I'm running Sarge, so i have XFree, but i want to try with Xorg. Can i test with Backports?? |
| 15:17.46 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 15:17.46 | dpkg | i heard ati debs is http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 15:18.00 | itchi | I have read that on Backports there are Xorg, but i'm not sure and not know exactly how to migrate to Xorg :-/ |
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| 15:18.55 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, i have already read it, it's in my special bookmarks of try_ATI_setup ;-) |
| 15:19.02 | abrotman | hehe .. ok |
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| 15:19.21 | abrotman | your card should work with xfree with those drivers .. but ask #ati fro more info |
| 15:19.40 | itchi | abrotman: But, i think i need to retry it from scratch or so, so that i hope i find wath i forget to do or so :-/ |
| 15:20.23 | itchi | abrotman: Ah yeah, you're right, i try and ask a bit on #ATI ;-) |
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| 15:30.59 | itchi | On an Debian Sarge box, can we run Xorg and not XFree? I want to try with Xorg, and hope i get my 3D running :-/ |
| 15:31.21 | stew | itchi: which graphics chipset do you have? |
| 15:31.37 | itchi | stew: An Ati Readeon 9600SE |
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| 15:32.01 | Tomze | backports got xorg for sarge |
| 15:32.07 | smagy2 | hello folks can some one recommend a live cd that uses grub as the boot loader ? |
| 15:32.15 | itchi | stew ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AQ [Radeon 9600] exactly |
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| 15:32.56 | itchi | Tomze: Yeah, i need to try it to run xorg. I'm not sure but normaly my 3D work on Xorg |
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| 15:33.26 | itchi | smagy2: Knoppix (Debian based) |
| 15:33.32 | jjazz | smagy2: Ubuntu |
| 15:33.56 | Tomze | smagy2: mepis |
| 15:33.58 | Tomze | ;) |
| 15:34.18 | itchi | jjazz: Yeah, right, i forget him a bit, hhmmm and that last new one are very nicee :-) so i need a bit more to mention Ubuntu ;-) |
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| 15:34.53 | smagy2 | itchi: knoppix has lilo as the boot loader |
| 15:35.00 | stew | itchi: /topic |
| 15:35.01 | Tomze | kanotix |
| 15:35.12 | smagy2 | jjazz: hmmn, ok thanks |
| 15:35.25 | scarface | how can I start a process in the cmd shell and make it's output not visible? like unrar e bla.rar & |
| 15:35.33 | scarface | but it always shows me unrar's output |
| 15:35.34 | plasmoduck | when I got to http://10.1.1.3:631/ on another pc on the network for cups configuration I get forbidden, how can I set access for anyone on the network? |
| 15:36.07 | itchi | stew: Yes, i know, Ubuntu, but i mean, here near me, on folks that want to give GNU/Linux an first try ;-) |
| 15:36.20 | stew | itchi: no the /topic says stuff about xorg on sarge |
| 15:36.28 | itchi | stew: Oh ok ;-) |
| 15:36.29 | stew | itchi: however "man radeon" says that you are going to have to use the non-free drivers even if you are on xorg, so you might as well stick to xfree |
| 15:37.10 | stew | itchi: the free drivers only support 3d for <= 9200 |
| 15:37.33 | abrotman | the r300 driver in cvs might work for it |
| 15:37.41 | stew | plasmoduck: check /usr/share/doc/cupsys (or whatever the packagename is) |
| 15:38.04 | itchi | stew: So no need of the free one :-( |
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| 15:38.59 | itchi | abrotman: How do get it ? :-/ |
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| 15:40.22 | usual | Gnea: you around man? |
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| 15:40.39 | faber3 | mmhh... my /sbin/update-grub does not do anything. what am i missing here? |
| 15:40.55 | stew | grumbel: /msg dpkg am i swapping |
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| 15:41.37 | Daedalus_ | grumbel: you may also need to enable dma for your harddrive. |
| 15:41.55 | abrotman | itchi: no idea .. never had to use xorg cvs |
| 15:42.00 | abrotman | itchi: try #xorg ? |
| 15:42.08 | grumbel | Daedalus_: dma is enabled and I have plenty of ram so swapping shouldn't be an issue |
| 15:42.37 | Daedalus_ | are you sure your drive is using dma? |
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| 15:42.50 | faber3 | what could be the reason, when my "update-grub" does not do anything? |
| 15:42.54 | itchi | abrotman: But if i could get it running in XFree, it would be also good. It does not matter, as long i get that 3D finally running :-/ |
| 15:43.02 | faber3 | its a new install and /boot/grub remains empty |
| 15:43.07 | grumbel | Daedalus_: hdparm says so |
| 15:43.19 | Daedalus_ | grumbel: the comment "I do I/O and things slow way down" just reaks of PIO. |
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| 15:43.51 | abrotman | itchi: ask #ati if it can work with xfree |
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| 15:44.03 | maxxle | I try to connect to a samba-Server from a Windows-Box. I'm refused. But there is no entry in any logfile. /var/log/samba/log.192.168.X.Y does not show anything like log.smbd and log.nmbd too. |
| 15:44.07 | maxxle | Where should I look? |
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| 15:44.33 | itchi | abrotman: I already talk there with an nice guy ;-) And normally it's supported. :-/ |
| 15:44.44 | itchi | abrotman: On Xfree |
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| 15:46.29 | abrotman | itchi: then it should work .. |
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| 15:47.30 | itchi | abrotman: Bwa, it not work :-/ But i guess it's an stupid error of my. Like in not know how i need to set it up. I have read there many informations on the WWW. But if i have do it right? :-/ |
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| 15:47.57 | avar | does dpkg have a collection of links describing how to make a package, pkg policy etc. ? |
| 15:48.13 | noshitheel | good bye |
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| 15:49.35 | faber3 | can someone help me? i am trying to bootstrap debian on a remote machine. i only need to install grub now, but i dont know how. it just refuses to do anything from within the chroot environment. |
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| 15:51.28 | donfilipo | ha i see another suferer itchi well i have about a week problems with 3d...it was working fine on debian till week ago and then update and no work no more...and that is not all..i instaled ubuntu=no work suse=no work and am back to debian...same problem ...i was instaling proprietary drivers from ati and from devil himself nothing....i think this bug would take a serious cooperation to get fixed..i almost resigned but must say my new debian inst |
| 15:51.28 | donfilipo | sking again any expert in graphics? |
| 15:51.50 | DevilChaos | hi does anyone know of a program or cammand to retrieve mistakenly delteted files i have done this on an archive drive i have and like to attempt to get stuff back if possible |
| 15:52.05 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: Spinrite |
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| 15:52.19 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: But I never usdd it myself, and know nearly nothing about it |
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| 15:52.38 | DevilChaos | ok ill give it a whirl |
| 15:52.38 | DaBlade | Anyway, I've got a problem with certian fonts |
| 15:52.47 | DaBlade | Times and Times New Roman always appear broken |
| 15:52.59 | DevilChaos | whats wrong wth your fonts? |
| 15:53.03 | avaruus | i've upgraded from xorg 6.9 to 7 in testing, and installed fglrx-driver debs from unstable. i don't have dri... so more 3d problems |
| 15:53.10 | grumbel | Daedalus_: I don't think its dma related, a simple program like http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/tmp/killlinux.c will bring linux to a halt, while I would expect 'proper' multitasking to handle the situation much more grazefully |
| 15:53.15 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 15:53.17 | DaBlade | Opening websites that use them in Konqueror causes it to render ridiculously, and crashes all Gecko based browsers |
| 15:53.32 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: I'll show you a screenshot |
| 15:53.43 | DevilChaos | ok |
| 15:53.53 | DaBlade | http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2104/snapshot38sz.jpg |
| 15:54.03 | itchi | donfilipo: So no one guy with an ATI card get it working? |
| 15:54.06 | DaBlade | That site crashes Firefox, Mozilla, Galeon, anything with a Gecko inside |
| 15:54.14 | DaBlade | And renders like that on Konqueror |
| 15:54.43 | DaBlade | I asked on Mozilla's IRC server, but they told me to ask here |
| 15:54.55 | donfilipo | itchi as i dig it most problems are with radeon over 8500 to 9500 don't ask me why |
| 15:55.37 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: When I was using MEPIS, it was fine, but when I switched to Debian, it turned out like that |
| 15:56.02 | itchi | donfilipo: Yeah, one way i believe it like i have read many things that say that it's not working, but some say that it's working. So i try to get it working :-/ |
| 15:56.18 | donfilipo | itchi other radeon or at least some of them are working just fine...with open and with proprietary drivers |
| 15:56.31 | DaBlade | DevilChaos? |
| 15:56.37 | DerJamster | The main issue is Xorg 7 currently, itchi, donfilipo |
| 15:56.56 | DaBlade | Can anyone else give me a hand? |
| 15:57.14 | DevilChaos | ic |
| 15:57.31 | DaBlade | At least I think it's the fonts |
| 15:57.34 | itchi | DerJamster: So with Xorg 7 i get normally 3D running? |
| 15:57.49 | k31th | Hi, whats the host command so i can see if my name servers working ? |
| 15:58.08 | donfilipo | DerJamster can u confirm that the problem was spoted and is beeing fixed? |
| 15:58.09 | k31th | i need to specifi the name server. |
| 15:58.12 | DaBlade | All sites that use those fonts seem to screw Gecko based browsers up real badly |
| 15:58.17 | blondie | k31th: like "host"? |
| 15:58.29 | k31th | blondie: yeah i know that |
| 15:58.30 | k31th | but. |
| 15:58.38 | k31th | I dont know the syntax |
| 15:58.50 | k31th | its host then the url then the dns server ? |
| 15:58.50 | DevilChaos | not really a prob ive come across before but it may be due to the theme you are using for your desktop are you using themes? |
| 15:58.53 | DerJamster | itchi, donfilipo: I can confirm it's hard to get it to work under Xorg7. It works with the fglrx-module and module-assistant in Debian Sid. 'least that's how I got it to work |
| 15:59.10 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: It's got nothing to do with KDE I think |
| 15:59.14 | blondie | k31th: yes, man host would tell you that :P |
| 15:59.53 | itchi | DerJamster: And in Etch? :-/ Like i not what to go to Sid. Etch, that looks possible |
| 15:59.59 | DevilChaos | go into config manager and see that things are set correctly there |
| 16:00.26 | DevilChaos | then also check out the theme conf as well there may be a conflict |
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| 16:00.39 | DerJamster | itchi: No idea. You'll either have to wait til the fglrx-module becomes avaiable, or somehow try to use the driver from the ati.com site directly. |
| 16:00.44 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: This has nothing to do with KDE, all apps have the misrendering |
| 16:00.46 | superlinux | is it a good thing to run my ident2 server? |
| 16:00.56 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: OpenOffice, Gaim, Konqueror, you name it |
| 16:01.02 | DevilChaos | i know in gnome the themes conf can change the font as well as in the normal configurator |
| 16:01.17 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: I don't have GNOME installed |
| 16:01.19 | DevilChaos | yeah through everything |
| 16:01.28 | itchi | DerJamster: Yeah, i think i need to give many time to it and try again each one possibility :-/ |
| 16:01.32 | DevilChaos | i can see that |
| 16:01.53 | DaBlade | I'm clueless as to what I can do about this |
| 16:02.02 | DaBlade | I can't have my browser crashing on every third page I go to |
| 16:02.12 | itchi | So first an try with Xorg of backports? |
| 16:02.24 | donfilipo | Deerjamster....well mine 3d is working for about 10seconds fine and then it freezes on all linux distros (suse,ubuntu,debian) so it's not the problem of debian...and then after installing fglrx drivers nothing of 3d works no more in all 3 of them also not the problem of debian it seems to me |
| 16:02.28 | DevilChaos | get rid of konkerer use mozzilla |
| 16:02.40 | superlinux | is it a good thing to run my ident2 server? |
| 16:02.41 | stew | itchi: there is no reason to try xorg from backports, you will need the non-free driver in any case |
| 16:03.07 | avaruus | building fglrx-packages with ati installer can be fun: fglrx-driver depends on xserver-xorg (<< 7.0.99); however: Version of xserver-xorg on system is 1:7.0.20. It's easy to fix though, just forgot to do it now |
| 16:03.26 | itchi | stew: And what mean that, i not realy understand :-/ |
| 16:03.36 | Tomze | DevilChaos: seamonkey !.. its great |
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| 16:04.28 | itchi | stew: What mean you with the non-free drivers exactly? |
| 16:04.33 | DevilChaos | seamonkey havent heard of that one but i know the background of mozzilla well and the time that went into the making of it so thats why i think its a good browser |
| 16:04.39 | [SA]Islo | how can I rebuild a linux kernel image from the backports.org sources and create a .deb file? |
| 16:04.46 | stew | itchi: the drivers in xfree do not support 3d for your card. neither do the drivers in xorg. you have to get non-free closed-source drivers from ati to get 3d support for your card. with non-free drivers you can get 3d support in either xfree or xorg, so there is probably no reason to use unofficial xorg packages |
| 16:04.46 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: I can't get rid of Konqueror, as for Firefox, Mozilla and Galeon, they keep crashing |
| 16:04.59 | [SA]Islo | I need to enable NFS root support in the 2.6.16-2-xen-686 image |
| 16:05.26 | Tomze | DevilChaos: mozilla is dead.. now its called seamonkey and is the community project of the mozilla foundation... looks just like mozilla but works with ff plugins |
| 16:05.28 | DevilChaos | want a really silly suggestion back up important data RE-INSTALL |
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| 16:05.58 | DevilChaos | fonts and browsers |
| 16:06.01 | Tomze | DaBlade: i just used that page... journal in firefox without problems |
| 16:06.01 | DevilChaos | themes |
| 16:06.21 | DaBlade | Tomze: I'm trying to uninstall the fonts now to see if that will help |
| 16:06.23 | itchi | How can i know wich Xfree version i'm running? |
| 16:06.30 | DevilChaos | or why not use gnome? |
| 16:06.42 | DevilChaos | debian kicks ass |
| 16:06.43 | gavagai | proftpd question. what numerical value does 'transferrate' directive take? i want to limit transfers to 75kbps |
| 16:06.47 | DevilChaos | :) |
| 16:06.48 | stew | itchi: X -version |
| 16:06.53 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: Because I can't stand the sight of GNOME. |
| 16:07.00 | DaBlade | Tomze: It crashed again. :( |
| 16:07.04 | DevilChaos | whys that? |
| 16:07.06 | itchi | stew : Yes ;-) |
| 16:07.17 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: I've had plenty of experience with it. Far too much. |
| 16:07.44 | DevilChaos | what do you mean by the experiance youve had? |
| 16:07.44 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: I started out with Fedora. That gave me a mild hatred of GNOME. Then a few distros later I tried out Ubuntu. That basically made me resent GNOME. |
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| 16:07.47 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: Yes. |
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| 16:08.22 | DevilChaos | fedora is a redhat combo and ubunto is debian combo |
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| 16:08.41 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: Not combo, derivative |
| 16:08.46 | [SA]Islo | anyone have any ideas? or is there an official backports channel? |
| 16:08.56 | ram_einstein | my current sources.list is "deb ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main". If I change stable to testing, the repo breaks. Why? |
| 16:08.59 | DevilChaos | debian debian debain no-one evr tell you that debian is the best will always be the best and will not be beaten |
| 16:09.14 | beowu1f | haveing issues with ssh connection. received signal 11 (no core) . can anyone give me a hand? |
| 16:09.22 | DevilChaos | derivetive yes |
| 16:09.36 | stew | ram_einstein: /msg dpkg debian-amd64 |
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| 16:10.14 | ram_einstein | stew: thanks. I should remove debian-amd64 in the sources.list url |
| 16:11.18 | DevilChaos | dablade: sorry i cant help for your problem and ill give spinrite a shot hope you get it sorted:) |
| 16:11.31 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: Thanks, and good luck |
| 16:11.58 | soncek | re, I was wondering if it is normal for the system to reallllly slow down (access to files can take up to 5 minutes) if you are using software RAID on SATA hard drives that have partitions in RAID1 and are currently being synchronized? now that the synchronization process finished everything works as fast as it should.. so was the previous behavour "normal" or is it some sort of bug in the kernel (in the part that handles software raid or ahci) th |
| 16:12.44 | ram_einstein | !tell ram_einstein -about debian-amd64 |
| 16:13.03 | spoof3r | . . . |
| 16:13.04 | spoof3r | :P |
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| 16:14.05 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: Woohoo, I solved it :D |
| 16:14.10 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: I had to delete the times font |
| 16:14.24 | DevilChaos | DaBlade: is spinrite a .deb file? |
| 16:14.35 | DaBlade | AFAIK spinrite is proprietary payware |
| 16:14.39 | DevilChaos | exellent |
| 16:15.06 | DaBlade | (Of course you can probably obtain it through some slightly more shady channels ;)) |
| 16:15.08 | soncek | isnt it free for personal use that can be put on a bootable floppy? |
| 16:15.20 | RoAkSoAx | Hello there!!!, i nee help plz, i wanna know how to remove the ipw2200 module cuz everytime its loaded it keep showing error, so i want to remove it forever |
| 16:15.33 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: I found its homepage: http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm |
| 16:15.34 | DevilChaos | ask! |
| 16:15.41 | DaBlade | DevilChaos: Looks like a Windows program though... |
| 16:15.47 | DevilChaos | !ask |
| 16:15.47 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 16:16.29 | DevilChaos | nah hate winblows with a passion |
| 16:16.41 | DevilChaos | bill gates is a turd |
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| 16:17.10 | soncek | DaBlade, DevilChaos: only the installer for creating the bootable is for windows |
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| 16:17.21 | DaBlade | soncek: Damnit |
| 16:17.27 | DaBlade | soncek: Well, I don't know of any others |
| 16:17.35 | DaBlade | soncek: Perhaps an older version? |
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| 16:18.36 | DevilChaos | nah have to forget that one |
| 16:18.38 | gndOut | hi |
| 16:18.42 | DevilChaos | i nthink |
| 16:18.44 | DevilChaos | hi |
| 16:18.59 | DevilChaos | stew? |
| 16:19.03 | gndOut | is it normal that famd uses ~100% cpu all the time? |
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| 16:19.15 | RoAkSoAx | Hello there!!!, i wanna know how to remove the ipw2200 module cuz everytime its loaded it keep showing error, so i want to remove it forever |
| 16:19.34 | DevilChaos | rm -rf |
| 16:19.42 | DevilChaos | whatever |
| 16:19.59 | DevilChaos | or |
| 16:20.03 | DaBlade | RoAkSoAx: I'm not sure, but I think you have to edit /etc/modules.conf |
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| 16:20.07 | beowu1f | RoAkSoAx, coldplug is loading mine at boot |
| 16:20.10 | DevilChaos | yup |
| 16:20.21 | RoAkSoAx | DaBlade: ok thanks |
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| 16:20.31 | DevilChaos | or just etc/modules |
| 16:20.38 | soncek | RoAkSoAx: a better solution is to solve the problem it has, not removing it |
| 16:20.39 | DevilChaos | edit with nano |
| 16:21.28 | DaBlade | soncek: What if it's a module provided by the distro that he doesn't need at all? |
| 16:21.46 | DaBlade | soncek: I got a few of those loading during boot, but I don't mind them since they don't even take a second of boot time |
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| 16:21.52 | RoAkSoAx | soncek: it keep showing APIC error on CPU0 : 40 (40) and that error just show up when the ipw2200 module is loaded |
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| 16:22.29 | RoAkSoAx | when i do modprobe -r ipw2200 it doesnt show the error but ofcourse i dont have wireless connection |
| 16:22.40 | DevilChaos | in commandline nano /etc/modules is not there /etc/modules.conf |
| 16:22.56 | DevilChaos | if not there |
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| 16:23.43 | RoAkSoAx | the thing is that the error goes like crazy and my laptop show a red light when it boots that module |
| 16:23.53 | stew | DevilChaos: ? |
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| 16:24.20 | DevilChaos | do you know of anything that will help me with data retrieval ? |
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| 16:24.55 | signuts | I am having a heck of a time getting the java plugin installed into firefox. Anyone have this working on testing ? |
| 16:24.57 | Morden | hiya, how can I find out what mta / smtp / pop server I have? |
| 16:25.05 | signuts | I am running firefox from unstable .. I think this might be the problem |
| 16:25.18 | Morden | and what is each used for? |
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| 16:25.22 | stew | DevilChaos: can you be more specific? |
| 16:25.41 | stew | signuts: /msg dpkg java-package |
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| 16:26.07 | signuts | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.10 | Aap | hi, how do you make an alias for eg. a network card? |
| 16:26.12 | stew | Morden: mta/smtp: "dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail" pop: "netstat -plant | grep :110" |
| 16:26.14 | signuts | oops |
| 16:26.29 | stew | Aap: you mean to add a second ip to an interface? |
| 16:26.41 | Aap | yes indeed stew |
| 16:27.01 | DevilChaos | stew: mistakenly deleted some mp3s from my archive hd and would like to get them if at all possible just thought id give it a shot |
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| 16:27.32 | signuts | stew, I get that java-package is already the newest version yet I have no java in firefox |
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| 16:28.16 | stew | signuts: java-package isn't java, its just a utility for creating a java .deb from a sun java. read /usr/share/doc/java-package/README.Debian |
| 16:28.27 | signuts | aye aye captain |
| 16:29.11 | Aap | stew: is that with eth0:0 in the /etc/network/interfaces file? |
| 16:29.45 | kronoz | !java-package |
| 16:29.45 | dpkg | java-package is probably a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 16:30.16 | stew | Aap: that's what i was talking about, is that what you were talking about? |
| 16:30.22 | Aap | yes |
| 16:30.47 | DevilChaos | stew:id like to see if i can retriev them if i can using software or commands any help? |
| 16:31.00 | stew | Aap: there are examples in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/interfaces.gz (or something similar) |
| 16:31.12 | stew | Aap: have you tried yet? if you post your interfaces somewhere we can look |
| 16:31.15 | stew | DevilChaos: ext3? |
| 16:31.19 | DevilChaos | yup |
| 16:31.35 | Aap | stew: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ifconfig.html -> i think here (near Debian GNU/Linux details: IP aliases |
| 16:31.59 | stew | DevilChaos: then probably not. ext3 cannot support undelete becuase of the journal (it actually zero's out the inodes), so you'd have to know some bits to grep for on the raw /dev/hdX device |
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| 16:32.36 | stew | Aap: yes, that is a good example |
| 16:32.38 | DevilChaos | oh thats a doosy |
| 16:32.46 | Aap | thx stew |
| 16:32.58 | DevilChaos | didnt loose that much i dont think just 4 gigs |
| 16:33.15 | DevilChaos | 9.8 left |
| 16:33.19 | ram_einstein | I made my /boot too small (7.4 MB!). The only other partition on the disk is my LVM. Is there a way to magically move my LVM further down the sectors and expand the size of /boot? |
| 16:33.25 | signuts | yikes. now I got java working but the stupid applet just freezes firefox at 100% cpu. I can't win! |
| 16:33.26 | signuts | heh |
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| 16:34.25 | ram_einstein | or maybe it's just too much trouble? Should I wipe debian altogether and perform a fresh install? |
| 16:34.28 | stew | DevilChaos: thank $diety for backups! |
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| 16:35.17 | ram_einstein | 7.4 MB is just enough to house grub stage 1.5, 2, one kernel image and one initrd image |
| 16:35.19 | Supaplex | I keep spare copies of /dev/null around just for that cause ;) |
| 16:35.55 | ram_einstein | hehe |
| 16:35.56 | stew | ram_einstein: you can put /boot on lvm if you switch from grub to lilo |
| 16:36.11 | ram_einstein | stew: hmm.. I tried that last time |
| 16:36.16 | stew | ...and recreate your initrd |
| 16:36.19 | DevilChaos | $diety? |
| 16:36.22 | ram_einstein | lilo refused to install after the partitioning |
| 16:36.43 | ram_einstein | stew: why? how will it help reduce the size? |
| 16:37.13 | stew | ram_einstein: no, i was assuming you could just move /boot to lvm and ignore the old boot partition, or just put /boot directly on / |
| 16:37.33 | stew | this machine doesn't have a /boot partition, /boot is on the / partition which is on lvm |
| 16:39.28 | ram_einstein | stew: I see |
| 16:39.43 | ram_einstein | why didn't it work on the installation livecd though? |
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| 16:39.54 | ram_einstein | lilo just refused to install |
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| 16:40.05 | stew | dunno |
| 16:40.10 | ram_einstein | yes, it's not a bad idea to move the /boot into lvm |
| 16:40.23 | ram_einstein | I dunno how to install lilo after that though and configure it |
| 16:41.16 | ram_einstein | stew: during the installation, did lilo install when you didn't have a seperate /boot? |
| 16:41.33 | ram_einstein | or did you have to do it by hand later? |
| 16:41.48 | stew | ram_einstein: i don't remember |
| 16:41.54 | DevilChaos | bbl |
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| 16:42.45 | ram_einstein | stew: okay, maybe I should try to repartition. I mean it's like 1/2 an hour since this system came into existance |
| 16:42.51 | leafw | does anyone know where to find the table that matches vga=792 etc. to 1280x854 screen resolution? |
| 16:42.52 | ram_einstein | and I have my whole /home on dvd anyway |
| 16:42.56 | stew | oh, i in that case, yeah, repartition |
| 16:42.59 | leafw | it's for the boot loader |
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| 16:43.29 | stew | leafw: switch to a vt and run "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get a list of supported modes |
| 16:43.39 | leafw | stew : thank you |
| 16:43.58 | ram_einstein | stew: this time, shall I put the /boot in the / in LVM and try? I can get on another system and tell you the exact error if necessary |
| 16:44.40 | stew | ram_einstein: well it really depeneds on if lilo will install for you, if it didn't last time, its not likely to this time, i wouldn't think. and you cannot boot from lvm with grub |
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| 16:46.11 | ram_einstein | stew: okay, I know the last part. Only lilo supports lvm. The first part: It didn't work for me last time, yes. I should be installing lilo on /dev/hda as opposed to /dev/hda1, right? I mean /dev/hda1 makes no sense. I need it on the MBR |
| 16:46.34 | stew | right |
| 16:46.34 | leafw | stew : hwinfo prints very quickly and I can't read anything. And hwinfo --framebuffer > info 2>&1 didn't help either (blank file) |
| 16:46.43 | ram_einstein | it probably didn't work last time because my /boot was a seperate Logical volume in the log volume group |
| 16:46.48 | ram_einstein | but that's just my theory |
| 16:46.54 | ram_einstein | anyway, no harm in trying again |
| 16:47.01 | ram_einstein | I'll get back to you if necessary |
| 16:47.05 | ram_einstein | thanks stew |
| 16:48.09 | stew | leafw: did you run it in a vt or from x? |
| 16:48.28 | leafw | stew : in a tty and in X |
| 16:48.43 | leafw | stew : in X meaning in an xterm |
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| 16:50.30 | stew | leafw: how about "hwinfo 2>&1 | less" or something? what shell do you use? that really should have worked |
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| 16:51.24 | jair | guys, I have to list of about 500 lines and I want to compare their differences. Should I use the command diff? |
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| 16:52.34 | AzianFlu | that would be a good tool for the job jair |
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| 16:55.03 | jade | when I try to ssh into my debian host, all of a sudden i am receiving 'ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host' error message. any ideas why?? |
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| 16:57.26 | Red-Sox | debina dind't recognize my ethernet card, therefor I couldn't install any packages, any ideas? |
| 16:57.36 | jair | AzianFlu: but they have different line numbers |
| 16:57.45 | leafw | stew : hwinfo 2>&1 | less works, but with --framebuffer nothing is printed |
| 16:57.50 | jair | one of then is 1027 and the other one is 900 |
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| 16:58.01 | leafw | and there is no framebuffer or vga keyword in the output |
| 16:58.04 | P3ngu1n | hey all |
| 16:58.16 | repp | jade: well, I've seen that due to several different reasons. First thing is to know if the connection is being made; "telnet <host> 22" to verify that the ssh server is presenting a hello message. |
| 16:58.21 | P3ngu1n | does anyone here know what happened with Barracuda Networks htis morning around 8am EST? |
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| 16:58.45 | ram_einstein | well, it failed |
| 16:58.50 | Red-Sox | ... |
| 16:59.02 | ram_einstein | running /sbin/lilo failed with errorcode 1 |
| 16:59.06 | Red-Sox | Time to go back on a distro hunt :P |
| 16:59.08 | ram_einstein | that wasn't very useful |
| 16:59.27 | AzianFlu | jair, i dunno what to tell you then. if you want the differences between two files, diff is a great way to do it. |
| 16:59.28 | repp | Red-Sox: good luck! We need you to tell us more than "it doesn't work" |
| 16:59.46 | Red-Sox | repp: I did tell you more... |
| 16:59.54 | Red-Sox | repp: (12:57:25) Red-Sox: debina dind't recognize my ethernet card, therefor I couldn't install any packages, any ideas? |
| 17:00.09 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 17:00.12 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:00.15 | Red-Sox | though I did spell debian wrong |
| 17:00.19 | Red-Sox | debina |
| 17:00.27 | Red-Sox | That's a good name for a distro :) |
| 17:00.44 | Red-Sox | >:-) |
| 17:00.54 | ram_einstein | Should I do an advanced install of lilo? I have a LVM on disk /dev/hda. The LVM uses /dev/hda1. / is a logical volume on the LVM. How do I install lilo on the MBR to point to the kernel in / (/boot is in /)? |
| 17:00.57 | Red-Sox | <:-( |
| 17:01.00 | Red-Sox | ah |
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| 17:01.01 | Red-Sox | okay |
| 17:01.04 | Red-Sox | l8r then |
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| 17:01.52 | ram_einstein | stew: you there buddy? |
| 17:02.05 | rxed | How do I diff change long for two kernels (eg. 2.6.14 and 2.6.20)? |
| 17:02.46 | leafw | what is the correspondence of 1280x854 to vga=??? in the boot loader config file? |
| 17:02.54 | leafw | how can one find out the screen resolution of a tty? |
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| 17:03.19 | amphi | leafw: if it's fb console, fbset |
| 17:03.57 | leafw | amphi: fbsetbg or fbsetroot ? I don't have fbset |
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| 17:04.17 | leafw | amphi : the others don't read like they'll be the right ones |
| 17:04.50 | jade | repp, telnet <host> 22 said showed telnet info, then "Connection closed by foreign host" |
| 17:04.52 | amphi | leafw: fbset(8) |
| 17:04.57 | ram_einstein | Fresh debian install. Using /dev/hda1 for LVM. Created new log volume group on it called "debian" and created logical volumes within. / is mounted on one of those logical volumes called "root-fs". Assuming /dev/hda is primary master and that Debian will be the only OS I desire to boot, how do I install lilo on the MBR of /dev/hda to boot the kernel /boot/vmlinuz? |
| 17:05.15 | leafw | amphi : No manual entry for fbset in section 8 |
| 17:05.16 | amphi | leafw: it's in its own package |
| 17:05.21 | rxed | I have changelog for x.20 and for x.14 but they are not cumulative logs, and I don't want to download each single change log for 15,16,17,18,19 and 20, then merge, and then compare them. I just need to figure out what are diffs between 2.6.14 and 2.6.20. |
| 17:05.21 | leafw | amphi : ok |
| 17:05.53 | soncece | ah, I feel down.. did anyone comment my question --> re, I was wondering if it is normal for the system to reallllly slow down (access to files can take up to 5 minutes) if you are using software RAID on SATA hard drives that have partitions in RAID1 and are currently being synchronized? now that the synchronization process finished everything works as fast as it should.. so was the previous behavour "normal" or is it some sort of bug in the kern |
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| 17:07.34 | stew | ram_einstein: there should be an option to install lilo that does the right thing in the installer |
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| 17:08.07 | ram_einstein | stew: :) sounds nice. It gives me an option of three installation targets |
| 17:08.18 | stew | ram_einstein: /dev/hda |
| 17:08.43 | ram_einstein | Running /sbin/lilo failed with error code 1 |
| 17:08.45 | ram_einstein | well? |
| 17:08.49 | Neeesat25 | Can someone explain why I get connection refuse on ssh terminal through network when I login in kde as a normal user? |
| 17:09.14 | ram_einstein | Neeesat25: either that the RSA key is invalid or that sshd isn't running on the host computer |
| 17:09.29 | SlayerXP | Neeesat25: the user has an ssh config file saying that ssh should use an odd port. |
| 17:09.32 | ram_einstein | rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
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| 17:09.47 | ram_einstein | SlayerXP: that's also a possibility |
| 17:10.03 | ram_einstein | Neeesat25: find out where sshd is running and connect to it in other words |
| 17:10.15 | ram_einstein | it's usually running on port 22 unless the user is a little mad |
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| 17:11.02 | Neeesat25 | I get connection refuse on all users now |
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| 17:11.16 | ram_einstein | stew: any idea what "error code 1" is? it might give us a clue |
| 17:11.26 | Neeesat25 | How I find out on port sshd is running? |
| 17:11.37 | ram_einstein | Neeesat25: netstat -a on the server |
| 17:11.44 | stew | ram_einstein: no idea. you can try looking in /usr/share/doc/lilo |
| 17:11.54 | ram_einstein | stew: if I had one :P |
| 17:12.39 | jade | telnet <host> 22 does not present ssh hello message |
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| 17:14.22 | Neeesat25 | I cant see any sshd in the list |
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| 17:15.04 | ram_einstein | stew: :( |
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| 17:15.45 | ram_einstein | error code 1 is "01 invalid disk command" |
| 17:16.16 | ram_einstein | stew: any ideas? |
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| 17:16.28 | stew | ram_einstein: i don't know |
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| 17:17.19 | ram_einstein | maybe I should stick with a static /boot an GRUB... |
| 17:17.35 | stew | ram_einstein: it sounds like it |
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| 17:18.40 | ndis | hi i need a driver for a sis163u-based usb wlan adapter ; thx |
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| 17:19.10 | ndis | i already tried all those in ndiswrappr's wiki and they crashes my sys |
| 17:19.26 | ram_einstein | aha! I got it! I think I should reboot and return to trying to install lilo |
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| 17:21.07 | ndis | some1 listen me ? |
| 17:22.12 | jade | are there any alternative ways to access a remote host via if ssh connections close with 'ssh_exchange_identification' errors? |
| 17:22.30 | ndis | some1 listen me ? |
| 17:22.51 | postel | jade: depends on the services running on the remote peer |
| 17:22.56 | postel | ndis: please stop it |
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| 17:24.43 | rillian | I've recently discovered our apache2 won't serve large (>2GB) files. google suggests (a) this was patched by debian in 1.3 and (b) was fixed upstream in 2.2. so is this a regression? do I have something misconfigured? (debian stable on x86) |
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| 17:25.17 | Supaplex | rillian: what kernel? |
| 17:25.29 | Supaplex | and filesystem (sounds like ext2) |
| 17:25.35 | petemc | rillian: i believe large file support was disabled in debians apache2 due to problems |
| 17:25.51 | Tassium | jade: Has the host changed? Try renaming .ssh/known_hosts to something else and see if the problem resolves itself. (NOTE: This could mean that you're connecting to a machine other than the one you THINK you should be) |
| 17:26.18 | rillian | Supalex: 2.4.27-3-k7-smp, ext3 |
| 17:26.54 | Supaplex | rillian: per petemc's comment, I'd check bugs.debian.org |
| 17:27.16 | rillian | petemc: ugh. any eta on apache 2.2 packages? |
| 17:27.39 | petemc | i had a quick look yesterday, didnt find anything immediately |
| 17:27.47 | Vasistha | so, my question of the day: will the debian installer by fooled? I'm about to start the base system configuration, and I went to vt2 and wgot a bunch of deb's, putting them in the apt archives folder ... should I also copy sources.list and the packages.gz files? |
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| 17:28.40 | rillian | http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/fac351d6bad7beda/bd819a0bc572ba4e?q=apache+large+file&rnum=1#bd819a0bc572ba4e |
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| 17:31.15 | petemc | Vasistha: you could set up your own local repository |
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| 17:31.46 | petemc | Vasistha: one has to ask, why did you wget the files instead of doing it the more traditional way? |
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| 17:32.08 | Vasistha | petemc: well, I wgot them from another computer on my local network, so 350 MB took 10 minutes ;-) |
| 17:32.09 | jade | Tassium, host has not changed, I also tried connecting to the host using an internal ip addr (e.g. 192.x) inside a LAN from another node... the ssh daemon is not presenting a 'hello' message when connecting via telnet. renaming known_hosts did not make a difference |
| 17:32.18 | ndis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.21 | petemc | Vasistha: ah, try /msg dpkg own repo |
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| 17:32.46 | rillian | apr 1.2 is in testing/unstable |
| 17:32.47 | petemc | jade: can you get access to check /etc/hosts.deny on the remote machine? |
| 17:32.49 | rillian | but no sign of apache 2.2 |
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| 17:34.41 | ndis | hi i need a driver for a sis163u-based usb wlan adapter ; thx |
| 17:35.23 | petemc | ndis: have you googled to see if other people have got that model working? |
| 17:35.24 | jade | petemc, unfortunately i don't have console access... and i have no other way to access it other than ssh, sftp etc |
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| 17:35.32 | ndis | googled and answer is affermative |
| 17:35.54 | petemc | ndis: the people that have got it working, they didnt document it? |
| 17:35.58 | ndis | but other got my sameproblem |
| 17:36.14 | ndis | yes but th way thwey say don't work on me |
| 17:36.32 | ndis | they say just take the windows xp driver and also many specified an url to download from |
| 17:36.45 | jade | i ran a mysql load file on a 2.5 GB input file before leaving last night, perhaps that's what hosed it... |
| 17:36.46 | rillian | Supplex, petemc: thanks for your help :/ |
| 17:36.50 | petemc | ndis: well, it appears no one here has any experiience with it, maybe try back in an hour |
| 17:36.54 | ndis | i did that but on modprobe the system frozes 50% times and the other don't frozes but the card |
| 17:36.57 | ndis | don't work |
| 17:37.02 | ram_einstein | stew: just to let you know, my rebooting technique worked no better |
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| 17:37.28 | ndis | i tried an hour ago and got no answer at all |
| 17:37.29 | ndis | ;) |
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| 17:38.06 | apokryphos | I plugged in my mobile phone (usb), and it's not mounted or anything. How can I tell what entry it's taken in /dev/ ? |
| 17:38.26 | faber3 | what does it mean when the VFS cannot mount an "unknown-block" device |
| 17:38.28 | faber3 | ? |
| 17:39.03 | petemc | faber3: the kernel may not have support for the devices filesystem |
| 17:39.12 | petemc | or you're trying to mount the wrong device |
| 17:39.16 | faber3 | petemc: its the stock debian kernel. but there is also a ramdisk |
| 17:39.25 | petemc | what fs is it? |
| 17:39.40 | faber3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.46 | faber3 | its an ext3 on /dev/hdb1 |
| 17:40.14 | petemc | this is during boot? |
| 17:40.17 | stew | !can't mount root |
| 17:40.17 | dpkg | If you can't mount the root file system when you boot your custom kernel, it means you have failed to include support for either: (a) your root file system (e.g. ext3), or (b) your disk controller (IDE, SCSI, etc.). These cannot be modules, unless you use an initrd. Go check your config again. or make sure your bootloader knows about your initrd |
| 17:40.49 | faber3 | petemc: yes, during boot. maybe the ramdisk ist not good |
| 17:41.47 | usual | Gnea: ping |
| 17:42.45 | faber3 | petemc: i am worried about the unknown-block device. why is it unknown ? |
| 17:43.01 | abrotman | faber3: is this the megaraid machine ? |
| 17:43.05 | k31th | Do i have to run a command to enable zones in bind9 ? |
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| 17:43.14 | k31th | or just service restart? |
| 17:43.21 | petemc | k31th: rndc reload |
| 17:43.24 | Tassium | faber3: It's unknown because it hasn't got the drivers for it. |
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| 17:44.34 | faber3 | Tassium: so the ramdisk isnt ok? or what could be the reason for it? |
| 17:44.39 | petemc | k31th: you might need to restart bind for new zones |
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| 17:44.53 | lepton | apokryphos: 'tail -f' the kernel log file as you plug in the phone |
| 17:44.57 | faber3 | abrotman: yes |
| 17:45.38 | usual | anyone use the tg3 kernel driver for broadcom wired nics |
| 17:45.40 | apokryphos | lepton: where would that be? |
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| 17:46.03 | akulah | Hello |
| 17:46.13 | akulah | I need help |
| 17:46.34 | apokryphos | akulah: fire away |
| 17:46.50 | akulah | how can I install sid |
| 17:46.53 | akulah | ? |
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| 17:47.06 | Ronin | if you have to ask akulah you probibly shouldnt |
| 17:47.14 | akulah | i have tried many methods |
| 17:47.23 | akulah | i have a slow connection |
| 17:47.33 | akulah | 512k |
| 17:47.36 | akulah | kb |
| 17:47.43 | blondie | that's not that slow. |
| 17:47.54 | Ronin | akulah: why do you want sid anyhow? have you looked into backports if its a certain application? |
| 17:48.30 | akulah | I've used sarge for some time but is a little bit outdated |
| 17:48.44 | akulah | take ubuntu for example |
| 17:48.47 | Ronin | akulah: look into backports then |
| 17:48.54 | akulah | aha |
| 17:49.10 | Ronin | or maybe even testing |
| 17:49.32 | akulah | I don't know |
| 17:49.41 | akulah | I want to use sid |
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| 17:50.14 | akulah | just for the reason that I wan't to find bugs learn to package |
| 17:50.17 | akulah | etc |
| 17:50.23 | akulah | . |
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| 17:53.09 | abrotman | akulah: sid is not an upgrade .. things break .. badly .. please don't use it |
| 17:53.47 | akulah | yes I know |
| 17:54.00 | akulah | I am also using Ubuntu |
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| 17:54.26 | akulah | and I 've used a snapsot |
| 17:54.28 | stew | akulah: please go to #ubuntu for help with ubuntu. you shouldn't mix ubuntu packages with debian packages |
| 17:54.30 | JoelR | Hi, anybody here has used Amanda? |
| 17:54.39 | akulah | yes sorry |
| 17:55.00 | Ronin | ive dated an amanda does that count? |
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| 17:55.32 | abrotman | Ronin: only if you used her ... |
| 17:55.46 | JoelR | Ronin: dated? with cron you mean? |
| 17:56.09 | Ronin | JoelR: heh no as i i dated a girl named amanda once |
| 17:56.28 | JoelR | lol |
| 17:57.10 | samuel | anyone know how i can change cups-pdf from printing always in /root/PDF to printing in /~/PDF ? |
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| 17:58.32 | samuel | also, is there any way to get cups to ALWAYS print to cups-pdf no matter what printer was originally chosen? |
| 17:58.54 | samuel | as in print to, say laser, and ALSO cups-pdg |
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| 17:59.44 | WoodyWoodpecker | I am areceiving errors while building a new mandb |
| 17:59.54 | k31th | Do i have to run a command to enable zones in bind9 ? |
| 18:00.07 | WoodyWoodpecker | unknown symbolic link or directory or ROFF -> .so |
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| 18:00.14 | WoodyWoodpecker | Debian Etch |
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| 18:00.53 | WoodyWoodpecker | Can someone give me the output of dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man1x/bitmap.1x.gz |
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| 18:01.24 | petemc | k31th: assuming you have them set up correctly, restarting bind or perhaps just runnign rndc reload should suffice |
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| 18:02.28 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: i don't have this file |
| 18:02.34 | e1z0 | :-O |
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| 18:03.40 | WoodyWoodpecker | I only have the errors in german if someone would take a look: http://rafb.net/paste/results/oZ7w9429.html |
| 18:03.40 | WoodyWoodpecker | POVaddct: What do you get if doing "mandb"? |
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| 18:04.28 | WoodyWoodpecker | POVaddct: Or do you at all see something else than the "normal output" of mandb? |
| 18:04.57 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: i see the normal output. it updates some paths, blabla |
| 18:05.07 | WoodyWoodpecker | Do yo have the directory /usr/share/man/man{1,3}x ? Because I created them after I read the error? |
| 18:05.22 | WoodyWoodpecker | ok, that is the normal output. |
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| 18:05.58 | WoodyWoodpecker | Do you know anything I could do again this? |
| 18:06.00 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: WoodyWoodpecker i have those dirs |
| 18:06.09 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: sorry, no |
| 18:06.20 | WoodyWoodpecker | dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man1x |
| 18:06.21 | dpkg | Badgers ate my /usr/share/man/man1x! |
| 18:06.26 | WoodyWoodpecker | Can I see the output? |
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| 18:06.33 | WoodyWoodpecker | dpkg: sorry? |
| 18:06.34 | dpkg | Don't be sorry...but if you ever go against the Debian Family again... |
| 18:06.38 | WoodyWoodpecker | oh, bot |
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| 18:08.17 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz: coreutils: /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1.gz |
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| 18:09.14 | WoodyWoodpecker | No, I have coreutils installed :D Can you give me the same for /usr/share/man/man1x please? |
| 18:10.21 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: i do not have /usr/share/man/man1x |
| 18:10.41 | RoAkSoAx | hello!! were can i find the boot log |
| 18:11.20 | WoodyWoodpecker | POVaddct: But you have the latest upgrades from some deb mirror and you are running etch, right? |
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| 18:11.57 | christor | someone knows a channel about security and exploits? |
| 18:11.59 | WoodyWoodpecker | RoAkSoAx: /var/log/boot |
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| 18:12.00 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: no. i am running a system which is nearly sarge. |
| 18:12.04 | WoodyWoodpecker | christor: #security |
| 18:12.44 | WoodyWoodpecker | POVaddct: nearly? You mean you haven't upgraded in the last couple of days? |
| 18:13.01 | RoAkSoAx | WoodyWoodpecker, thsnk |
| 18:13.10 | christor | WoodyWoodpecker: thx |
| 18:13.25 | POVaddct | WoodyWoodpecker: no. actually, it is a rather old installed knoppix. |
| 18:13.35 | MannieX | hi at everyone |
| 18:13.44 | MannieX | anyone here use gnome ? |
| 18:13.48 | WoodyWoodpecker | POVaddct: ok, thanks for the responce in any case. |
| 18:14.15 | WoodyWoodpecker | MannieX: sometimes (if nothing else is available) |
| 18:14.21 | avar | MannieX: the statistical probability of that is high |
| 18:14.27 | MannieX | ^__^ tnx |
| 18:14.40 | jelly-home | !tell MannieX about anyone |
| 18:14.43 | MannieX | please say to me where is the location of icons |
| 18:14.49 | MannieX | i don't remember |
| 18:15.02 | avar | !tell avar about anyone |
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| 18:15.18 | blondie | I have some on my desktop |
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| 18:15.29 | daisuke | dpkg: nvidia |
| 18:15.29 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 18:15.31 | MannieX | yes, but the location of all icons |
| 18:15.38 | stew | MannieX: /usr/share/icons |
| 18:15.45 | MannieX | tnxxxxxxx |
| 18:15.49 | MannieX | so mutch |
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| 18:16.23 | jelly-home | avar, "/msg dpkg anyone" works too, so feel free to abuse the bot. ;-) |
| 18:16.41 | daisuke | jelly-home: only works if you're registered with nickserv :P |
| 18:16.42 | Supaplex | !abuse |
| 18:16.42 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
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| 18:17.24 | jelly-home | daisuke, oh. That's because /msg in general works only after registering, right? |
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| 18:17.32 | Ferret | Hi daisuke. |
| 18:17.37 | daisuke | jelly-home: yeah, which is annoying cos i cant register this nick |
| 18:17.38 | avar | jelly-home: I'm abusing! |
| 18:17.41 | daisuke | Ferret: ello, how you doing? :> |
| 18:18.14 | Ferret | Just got out of bed. :) |
| 18:18.17 | daisuke | dpkg: nvidia one-liner |
| 18:18.17 | dpkg | it has been said that nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 18:18.21 | daisuke | Ferret: lol, nice :P |
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| 18:18.44 | blondie | what's going on here! |
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| 18:20.14 | daisuke | blondie: xorg isnt letting my use nvidia drivers :( |
| 18:20.42 | blondie | my best graphics card isn't working at all |
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| 18:21.00 | blondie | it overheated the other day and now the PC keeps crashing (With a new HSF) |
| 18:21.01 | blondie | :( |
| 18:21.15 | blondie | I just use the "nv" driver |
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| 18:21.25 | oranw | hi, how can you find and get the PID of an application with top and grep? |
| 18:21.48 | petemc | oranw: use ps, or pidof |
| 18:22.04 | daisuke | blondie: tv out doesnt work with the nv driver, well for me at least |
| 18:22.08 | oranw | no i need to do it with top |
| 18:22.17 | blondie | oh, I don't use that c.c |
| 18:22.28 | blondie | oranw: you can't |
| 18:22.51 | formorer_ | oranw: pgrep |
| 18:23.03 | formorer_ | eh top? |
| 18:23.07 | formorer_ | top is interactive |
| 18:23.15 | samuel | anyone know this dpkg remove error? "Removing python2.4-minimal ... pycentral: pycentral rtremove: installed runtime python2.4-minimal not found" |
| 18:23.23 | blondie | oranw: why do you "need to use top"D? |
| 18:23.31 | deadcat | i am trying to make my box see my handspring visor again. i load visor. but no /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/pilot. what am i missing? |
| 18:23.46 | oranw | blondie: i want to figure out a way to do it with top |
| 18:23.56 | blondie | oranw: it's not possible |
| 18:23.57 | blondie | afaik |
| 18:24.04 | petemc | oranw: no, you want people to tell you how to do it with top |
| 18:24.08 | formorer_ | top -b | grep foo? |
| 18:24.22 | formorer_ | top -b -n 1 | grep foo? |
| 18:24.33 | blondie | oh, that could work ;) |
| 18:24.34 | formorer_ | I don't know your plan |
| 18:25.21 | oranw | thanks |
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| 18:26.29 | blondie | was that that other forthnet.gr person from a few weeks ago? :) |
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| 18:27.19 | l3u | Greetings, anyone be willing to assist on exim4 config to have the system deliver mail out? |
| 18:27.26 | l3u | probably simple |
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| 18:30.37 | petemc | l3u: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
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| 18:31.49 | holycow | hey guys |
| 18:32.04 | WoodyWoodpecker | Who does have the directory /usr/share/man1x ? |
| 18:32.12 | daisuke | so, what am i doing wrong? nvidia kernel module is loaded, xorg doesnt work with the nvidia driver though because it cant find it... if i knew where it is i would move it |
| 18:32.31 | holycow | hey anyone have one of these verbatim 2 gig usb flash drives? this thing seems to have 100 megs as unwriteable partitionspace that seems to mount as a cdrom for some reason. |
| 18:32.31 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: do you have nv or nvidia driver selected? |
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| 18:32.57 | daisuke | WoodyWoodpecker: currently nv, because nvidia comes up with "nvidia driver does not exist" when i switch |
| 18:33.03 | daisuke | i used module-assistant |
| 18:33.09 | holycow | would anyone know if one could actually overwrite the bloody partitions on this device ... fdisk doesn't seem to be able to access /dev/sda no matter what i do |
| 18:33.10 | holycow | :/ |
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| 18:33.14 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: You used what? |
| 18:33.29 | daisuke | WoodyWoodpecker: module-assistant to build the nvidia kernel module |
| 18:33.40 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: xorgcfg -textmode or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 18:33.55 | brain79 | hola todos |
| 18:34.07 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: I never build drivers from nvidia, so I don't know |
| 18:34.40 | daisuke | WoodyWoodpecker: i dont seem to have xorgcfg, but dpkg-reconfigure doesnt list nvidia because the driver isnt there, and i dont know where it is or why it isnt there :o |
| 18:35.24 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: afaik you only have to build with make && make install |
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| 18:35.30 | usual | how can I use module-assistant to build a kernel module in debian |
| 18:35.37 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: Do you have the modules loaded --> lsmod | grep nv |
| 18:35.59 | daisuke | WoodyWoodpecker: yes, nvidia and nvidia_agp show up, just seems to be the X driver missing |
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| 18:37.32 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: hm, maybe (idk for sure) you need xserver-xorg-video-nv |
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| 18:37.47 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: How new is the graphics card? |
| 18:37.53 | holycow | let me rephrase my question ... |
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| 18:38.43 | holycow | ... how can a partition on a usb flash drive be mounted as a cdrom? udev decides that based on the file system in the partition? |
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| 18:38.48 | daisuke | WoodyWoodpecker: i think xserver-xorg-video-nv is just the 2D driver, but i do have it, its a 5600 which is a tad old |
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| 18:40.54 | WoodyWoodpecker | daisuke: If it is that old, I think you don't even need the prebuild ones from nvidia any more. But I don't know about the 3d stuff. |
| 18:41.22 | daisuke | WoodyWoodpecker: ok well thanks, ive gotta go out now o/ |
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| 18:41.33 | WoodyWoodpecker | np |
| 18:41.48 | mox | hi |
| 18:42.03 | mox | anybody worked with windows networking under qemu |
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| 18:42.33 | mox | sorry...wrong channel |
| 18:42.34 | stormrider_may | Could someone help me to install Nvidia drivers on kernel 2.6.15 ? |
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| 18:43.47 | valdyn | stormrider_may: on sarge? |
| 18:43.50 | SerajewelKS | the hell, what's up with this: <kov@debian.org>: host debian.org[192.25.206.10] said: 550 relay not permitted (in reply to RCPT TO command) |
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| 18:44.11 | SerajewelKS | debian.org MX is rejecting mail for its own mailboxes? |
| 18:44.36 | stormrider_may | valdyn: on etch |
| 18:44.46 | valdyn | !why is nvidia-glx not in etch |
| 18:44.46 | dpkg | valdyn: I think you lost me on that one |
| 18:44.54 | valdyn | !why is nvidia-glx not in testing |
| 18:44.54 | dpkg | nvidia-glx is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-glx |
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| 18:45.29 | valdyn | stormrider_may: have you tried the sid packages? |
| 18:45.41 | SerajewelKS | stormrider_may: pull nvidia-kernel-source from unstable, run 'm-a update; m-a a-i nvidia', then pull nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common from unstable too |
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| 18:46.35 | stormrider_may | valdyn: no, i have tried to download the driver from nvidia.com and installing from there, but it says that couldn't find my kernel source tree |
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| 18:47.16 | valdyn | !quick sid/etch mix |
| 18:47.16 | dpkg | from memory, quick etch/sid mix is echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, edit sources.list, duplicate your etch lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update. use apt-get -t unstable install foo; to install foo from sid rather than etch as usual. consider making sure you've read the APT HOWTO when setting this up, as it exposes to unstable packages |
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| 18:47.36 | SerajewelKS | !nvidia-installer |
| 18:47.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia-installer is a clever cross-platform way of installing nvidia's proprietary drivers, which works fine on systems with stupid package managers (i.e. not so good with Debian). more specifically, prone to dying if any X or kernel related packages are upgraded or removed. see <nvidia-graphics-drivers>, or <nvidia one-liner> |
| 18:47.37 | valdyn | stormrider_may: read what SerajewelKS said, read what dpkg said |
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| 18:48.13 | SerajewelKS | stormrider_may: oh and don't forget to 'modprobe nvidia; echo nvidia >> /etc/modules' |
| 18:48.33 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: that is _still_ required? |
| 18:48.44 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: already was a RC bug for sarge iirc |
| 18:48.46 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: the modprobe or the echo |
| 18:48.55 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: either |
| 18:49.04 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: *shrug* i do them to be sure |
| 18:49.22 | stormrider_may | thansk for the help guys, i'll try it here |
| 18:49.26 | stormrider_may | thanks* |
| 18:49.37 | donfilipo | hi i have a problem wich caused me to install different distros of linux on my machine and asked for help many without any success....problem my graphics locks up after about 10-300 seconds in any 3d accelerated application. There is a fine game armagetron wich shows that my agp is set to 1x although it should be at least 4x. My graphic card sapphire radeon 9000 pro 64mb ram. Any clue wich setting i should use to change the agp setting...maybe t |
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| 18:50.06 | valdyn | donfilipo: dont bother, that agp speed is mostly irrelevant |
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| 18:50.30 | rohan_ | anyone have this bug ? its so irritating and annoying :S |
| 18:50.31 | rohan_ | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=369965 |
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| 18:51.23 | valdyn | donfilipo: for that lockup issue you should check the BTS probably, but if you are mixing distros, no one can help you |
| 18:51.52 | rohan | and the problem appeared so suddenly that i think its a problem with me, not the debian package |
| 18:52.00 | rohan | and very few people appear to be having the problem, too |
| 18:52.16 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: i don't think he's mixing, i think he's just tried a lot of distros |
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| 18:52.45 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: oh, ok, i see |
| 18:52.57 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: at least that's how i read it |
| 18:52.57 | JoelR | valdyn: Hello, have u used bacula or amanda? |
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| 18:53.19 | SerajewelKS | !anyone use bacula or amanda |
| 18:53.19 | dpkg | No, no one uses bacula or amanda, not even the people who use it. |
| 18:53.21 | rohan | is there anyway to purge out yaird _completely_ , all its configs, settings and all, and start anew ? |
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| 18:53.34 | valdyn | donfilipo: if that same error shows on several distros then its most likely a bug in your hardware or a bug in X, still, check the bts. |
| 18:53.38 | SerajewelKS | rohan: dpkg -P yaird |
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| 18:53.53 | SerajewelKS | rohan: or something like: dpkg --force-deps -P yaird; apt-get install yaird |
| 18:53.56 | valdyn | donfilipo: and your AGP speed is still not important.. |
| 18:54.09 | rohan | SerajewelKS: and in addition, tell it to ignore dependencies ? since that would remove the linux kernel or install mkinitramfs utils |
| 18:54.19 | donfilipo | valydyn hm i am not quite shure time ago i was experimenting with a motherboard wich had an option of changing agp speed in bios of motherboard and the games froze....BTS is?...i am not mixing just desperatly trying to figure out what's wrong i have few disks each with own distro....and it works in gates ans it worked a week ago in debian...before update |
| 18:54.23 | SerajewelKS | rohan: yeah the last one-liner i gave does that |
| 18:54.41 | valdyn | !bts |
| 18:54.41 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 18:54.51 | rohan | SerajewelKS: ah, thanks |
| 18:55.01 | rohan | SerajewelKS: i tried that, but the problem still persists |
| 18:55.12 | rohan | SerajewelKS: as i said in the bug report :( |
| 18:55.14 | SerajewelKS | rohan: hrm, can't help you then. the kernel isn't my thing. |
| 18:55.23 | rohan | SerajewelKS: ok, thanks anyway :) |
| 18:55.29 | SerajewelKS | rohan: np, good luck with it |
| 18:55.34 | rohan | its the only problem i have atm with deb sid :)) |
| 18:55.48 | rohan | and doesnt cause any harm . .but still, might have some unknown side effects |
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| 18:56.27 | valdyn | donfilipo: why dont you stick to the system that worked ( the one before the 'upgrade' ) ? |
| 18:57.02 | johnsu01 | So, the synergy server in sarge is not compatible with the synergy client in unstable? That's what the debug messages I get from synergy say. |
| 18:57.26 | donfilipo | oh valydyn BTS i was there to....seen a lot of similar mistakes and now i wait....ha why did i upgrade cause i think new is better...sometimes i am wong..damn wrong |
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| 18:58.27 | valdyn | donfilipo: the thing is, im guessing that your error is not simply fixable by changing config, which is why i recommend you to stick to sarge ( or whatever worked ) |
| 18:58.38 | valdyn | donfilipo: but - read the log files, see if you can find something useful |
| 18:58.56 | p3rry | what is /etc/init.d/mysql-ndb-mgm doing? other than "spamming" my logs with errors about "basename: extra operand `/etc/init.d/mysql-ndb-mgm'" |
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| 19:01.33 | donfilipo | valydyn which specific log file if the frozen system has time to write it should i read? |
| 19:01.57 | valdyn | donfilipo: figure out what is freezing, X or the whole system.. |
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| 19:02.15 | valdyn | donfilipo: need a second terminal or computer for that thoough |
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| 19:02.26 | valdyn | donfilipo: which gfx driver are you using? |
| 19:02.43 | mngrif | is it possible to find out what arch a .deb is for? |
| 19:02.56 | valdyn | mngrif: arch is part of the filename |
| 19:03.45 | mngrif | valdyn, assuming it isn't. is there some file like pkg_spec that would have the compile options listed? |
| 19:04.01 | valdyn | mngrif: why should i assume it isnt? |
| 19:04.04 | donfilipo | valydyn i think it's only the xserver...i had and have xserver-xorg-ati-driver the open one worked fine now not...had few desperate nights with proprietary one..so will not try again |
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| 19:04.17 | valdyn | mngrif: that's not a proper deb then |
| 19:04.29 | mngrif | god you people are useless |
| 19:04.33 | valdyn | donfilipo: is that a radeon card? |
| 19:04.51 | leafw | anyone has any clue why I can't open remotely an opengl application from a ppc to an x86 or viceversa, but x86 to x86 is fine? |
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| 19:05.00 | valdyn | mngrif: i can name a random file.txt to file.deb, that doesnt make it a deb, a deb has arch in the filename |
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| 19:05.08 | donfilipo | valydyn yes sapphire radeon 9000 pro 64mb ram |
| 19:05.24 | valdyn | donfilipo: read 'man radeon', you can try setting the AGP speed |
| 19:05.25 | wine | hi, someone can help me with wine? |
| 19:05.29 | mngrif | i have a .deb, named, say, generic-package.deb. it IS a dpkg-compatible archive. |
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| 19:06.05 | Coke | Do I still need to have kernel support for my webcam or are there any user space software that can handle it these days? |
| 19:06.13 | wine | everey time i add a drive it discards changes made |
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| 19:06.40 | donfilipo | valydyn...thanks for now...reading |
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| 19:10.16 | valdyn | leafw: the error message is what? |
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| 19:10.42 | leafw | valdyn : pastebin, one sec |
| 19:11.09 | Eclipser | umh |
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| 19:11.37 | valdyn | Coke: connecting hardware requires a kernel driver |
| 19:11.48 | Eclipser | how do I specify a user and group for a mount (ext3 partition), it says "EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value" if I set options to default,uid=1000,gid=1000 |
| 19:12.08 | leafw | valdyn : http://pastebin.com/707129 and also I've found https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/27459 |
| 19:12.23 | Eclipser | man mount says nothing about such thing |
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| 19:12.52 | enjayhch | any idea why twolame hasn't made it into Debian? |
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| 19:13.16 | valdyn | leafw: ppc to ppc works i guess? |
| 19:13.28 | enjayhch | it got as far as ftp-master, and then nothing |
| 19:13.35 | tybalt | what is the radius server package that I can install with apt-get |
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| 19:14.57 | leafw | valdyn : yes, ppc to ppc is fine |
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| 19:15.12 | SlayerXP | tybalt: apt-casearch radius |
| 19:15.15 | SlayerXP | err |
| 19:15.19 | SlayerXP | tybalt: apt-cache search radius |
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| 19:15.46 | tybalt | ill give you $1 if you do it for me |
| 19:15.51 | d1zzy | hello... just one small question, I want to try out something with a debian install and the best method as I can see it is to run it in a chroot (as I do run a gentoo installation). it should work just fine (with proper /proc mounts, /dev etc) but I am unable to find a base debian tarball system |
| 19:15.55 | valdyn | leafw: has to be an endianess bug, i cant fix that |
| 19:15.56 | d1zzy | is there any for sarge ? |
| 19:16.33 | d1zzy | I just want to unpack a base debian tarball and chroot and continue to download/install stuff in there |
| 19:16.38 | valdyn | !endianess |
| 19:16.59 | deadcat | i am trying to make my box see my handspring visor again. i load visor. but no /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/pilot. what am i missing? |
| 19:17.17 | leafw | valdyn : too bad then, it's a nifty and really annoying bug |
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| 19:17.32 | deadcat | lsusb shows only when i press the sync button |
| 19:17.53 | valdyn | leafw: maybe look at Xorg's bts, if that exists, may there's a fix already, wouldnt be to hard to fix anyway |
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| 19:18.11 | leafw | valdyn : sorry, bts? I don't know what that is |
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| 19:19.16 | valdyn | leafw: bug tracking system |
| 19:19.26 | leafw | valdyn : thanks. |
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| 19:27.57 | cr3 | how can I get system information like the brand and model of my laptop? |
| 19:28.24 | blondie | cr3: look at the sticker on the bottom |
| 19:28.40 | d1zzy | seems that debootstrap does exactly that... |
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| 19:28.50 | blondie | (I don't think it's possible from debian) |
| 19:29.36 | cr3 | blondie: I would much prefer a programmatic way of obtaining this information |
| 19:30.01 | cr3 | blondie: is there nothing in /proc that I could use? |
| 19:30.04 | gavagai | [4~ |
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| 19:30.34 | blondie | cr3: I don't think it's stored anywhere is it? |
| 19:31.06 | blondie | cr3: you'd need to extract it from the bios or something |
| 19:31.09 | blondie | (if it's there) |
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| 19:35.19 | Optic | hey, i have a weird memory leak issue with my debian install and i was wondering how I might go about diagnosing it |
| 19:35.21 | Optic | or who I should talk to |
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| 19:39.54 | abrotman | Optic: which application? |
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| 19:40.13 | Optic | abrotman: it appears to be flash player. |
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| 19:40.19 | Aap | do you have to put every user who contacts your server in /etc/hosts.allow?? |
| 19:40.22 | Optic | run it a few thousand times and the system is out of memory. |
| 19:40.31 | Optic | killing X doesn't recover the memory, even. |
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| 19:44.48 | stormrider_may | valdyn, SerajewelKS, i have tried what you told me, but when i get on the part of m-a it downloads nvidia-kernel-source and gives this error: Bad Luck, the kernel headers to your kernel version could not be found and you didn't specified another valid kernel headers to be used |
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| 19:47.09 | stormrider_may | could anyone help me with this error? |
| 19:47.25 | stormrider_may | my debian is in portuguese so i tried to translate the error |
| 19:47.28 | abrotman | Optic: no freaking crap .. it's flash |
| 19:47.33 | kensai | ok... I have used debian but way back 2 years ago. I have everything set up a X11R7 openbox3 system but I just can't install nvidia-glx it complains that it depends on nvidia-kernel-1.8762 and that it is not installable, I'm using SID with contrib and non-free |
| 19:49.49 | Disorder | Ok, I am having problems with installing the audio mixer, amixer did not come with it for some reason and when it calls it, it comes up with file not located |
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| 19:51.28 | abrotman | you mean aumix ? |
| 19:51.30 | abrotman | alsamixer? |
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| 19:52.46 | Disorder | alsamixer. |
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| 19:54.33 | zooy0rk | has anyone gotten their hands on a nforce5 yet and tried it in linux? |
| 19:54.44 | abrotman | Disorder: you have to install it |
| 19:54.49 | abrotman | !find bin/alsamixer sarge |
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| 19:55.39 | Disorder | K. |
| 19:56.53 | Aap | do you have to put every user who contacts your server in /etc/hosts.allow?? |
| 19:57.17 | abrotman | depends on your needs |
| 19:57.24 | Aap | ? |
| 19:57.35 | abrotman | what? |
| 19:57.41 | petemc | Aap: not by default, no |
| 19:57.52 | abrotman | you can just allow all users to use SSH or whatever .. you can make it as limited or open as you want |
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| 19:58.12 | MannieX | hi |
| 19:58.13 | Aap | but for ftp it's needed, no? |
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| 19:58.31 | MannieX | i have one problem with gnome |
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| 19:58.39 | MannieX | i have installed gnome-core |
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| 19:58.58 | MannieX | and now i want to change an icon, but i don't find the change icon button |
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| 19:59.05 | zeug | i keep getting i/o errors in /var/log/messages when copying files. does this mean that my drive is probably going bad? |
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| 19:59.23 | abrotman | what kind of messages? |
| 19:59.36 | Coke | I've been trying to get the pwc driver working with camstrea, xawtv, etc, but every software says the device or resource is busy (ioctl error). Googling for bugs yielded little. Where should I look next? |
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| 20:00.16 | zeug | abrotman, Jun 13 15:57:06 laptop kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 24366831 Jun 13 15:57:10 laptop kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Jun 13 15:57:10 laptop kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=24366893, sector=24366839 Jun 13 15:57:10 laptop kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown |
| 20:00.20 | jsan | my friends how i configure dhcp client ? |
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| 20:00.24 | zeug | abrotman, like that, but on 4 seperate lines |
| 20:00.31 | jsan | in my /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 20:00.42 | postel | zeug: fsck it, is it nearly full? what does df report? maybe the filesystem is corrupted |
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| 20:01.13 | zeug | postel, its 19GB and has 5GB free |
| 20:01.34 | postel | zeug: fsck it |
| 20:01.43 | zeug | postel, should i init 1 first? |
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| 20:01.59 | zeug | postel, or run fsck in the mode not to correct anything? |
| 20:02.15 | postel | yeap, mount ro |
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| 20:02.38 | postel | or boot from other media, mount it on the tree and fsck from there |
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| 20:03.03 | hjubal | hi |
| 20:03.48 | postel | zeug: does it only report errors during copying? what about booting? anything coming up on dmesg? |
| 20:04.20 | zeug | zeug, it only reported them while i was rsyncing some big files |
| 20:04.28 | zeug | i was only getting 170KB/sec when i would normally get 500 |
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| 20:04.52 | zeug | postel, and the hdd light was on solid |
| 20:04.57 | postel | ext3 or reiser? |
| 20:05.01 | zeug | postel, ext3 |
| 20:05.23 | syberdave | is anyone familiar with moto4lin here? |
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| 20:06.21 | Disorder | Ok, every time I try and download amixer, it kills the browser.... |
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| 20:06.38 | zeug | postel, i just ran fsck, and it says its clean |
| 20:06.59 | postel | zeug: well, the light was solid cause it was flushing on the platters your rsynced files, thats normal, the i/o errors are not. Grep the logs or dmesg |
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| 20:08.45 | zeug | postel, theres 41 i/o errors in dmesg |
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| 20:09.16 | unstable | zeug: Why do you need to download amixer more then once? |
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| 20:09.58 | postel | zeug: Did you recently replaced any memory modules in the system? |
| 20:10.05 | unstable | Disorder: Why do you need to download amixer more then once? |
| 20:10.07 | zeug | postel, no |
| 20:10.23 | postel | zeug: if fsck reported ni errors run memtest86 |
| 20:10.29 | postel | s/ni/no |
| 20:10.53 | zeug | postel, i never get any segfaults either |
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| 20:11.19 | postel | zeug: And if its a 19G drive its rather old, so its probably rather expected of it to die at some point |
| 20:11.39 | zeug | postel, it sometimes gets really noisy |
| 20:11.46 | postel | zeug: No need to mention you _should_ flush your data in backups asap |
| 20:12.51 | zeug | postel, i have backups, is it unsafe to re-backup now that the drive is starting to worsen? or will the crc checking prevent the backups from becoming corrupted? |
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| 20:14.03 | postel | if the filesystem check reported no errors you're good (for now), but too much noise from the platters and random hangups/hangs usually mean the end is near |
| 20:14.21 | linux2 | hi how do i install GLX module for X org |
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| 20:15.09 | postel | zeug: I wouldnt trust that disk for production btw. Backup and replace it asap. Cost per GB is rather low nowdays and thats a rather old 19G drive |
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| 20:18.10 | wine | how do i see what tcp and udp ports are in us/listenng ? |
| 20:18.37 | zeug | postel, any size limitations for laptops? will an 80GB drive probably work in it? it's a 9-year-old laptop. |
| 20:19.17 | stew | wine: /msg dpkg open ports |
| 20:19.43 | postel | zeug: Heating is more of an issue in your case than LBA support |
| 20:20.30 | postel | zeug: A new drive would demand current cooling gear to survive. And a 10 year old lap doesnt have it. |
| 20:20.51 | zeug | postel, its a panasonic laptop with a metal case, so maybe it would work |
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| 20:21.25 | zeug | postel, since the whole case acts as one large heatsink |
| 20:23.26 | postel | zeug: 10 years old, thats 96, so what is it? amd mmx? |
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| 20:23.44 | GrayThunder | how can I regenerate an ssl CA to reflect a new expiraion date (or just create a new cert)? |
| 20:24.00 | zeug | postel, 1997, 350mhz pentium 2 and 192MB memory |
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| 20:25.21 | postel | zeug: only good for serial console to a server closet or using mutt and reading mail. But thats in my book. You may differ |
| 20:25.54 | zeug | postel, the funny thing is though that i ordered a new laptop hdd last week and it came today but unfortunately i cant use it for the laptop because i need it for a portable storage device to empty my full sd cards from my camera onto. |
| 20:26.31 | zeug | so now i get to order another :) |
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| 20:27.24 | tarzeau | any debian users ever wondered WTF all the double linux boot menu entries are good for (don't answer this, i know it) but is it really needed? would you mind having it not there? |
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| 20:27.56 | tarzeau | (i'm talking grub here, where you can hit e. for lilo something else than update-grub takes care of it) |
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| 20:30.21 | zeug | postel, the nice thing about it is it doesnt sound like a vacuum cleaner |
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| 20:31.09 | linux2 | how can i load the GLX module in debian |
| 20:31.14 | linux2 | i just installed the nvidia drivers |
| 20:31.16 | linux2 | and it works |
| 20:31.22 | Niklas_E | can you get tkx8.4 with apt-get somehow? |
| 20:31.36 | abrotman | zeug: that's not good . |
| 20:31.45 | linux2 | but GLX isn't loading when i start the x server so i don't get 3d accelercation |
| 20:31.47 | Wanderer | blah, googleearth doesn't like the glx in my laptop :< |
| 20:31.48 | linux2 | any ideas? |
| 20:32.27 | kristalino | i have a debian that "Could not connect to database" and then hangs up. |
| 20:32.40 | kristalino | what can i do to continue the boot ? |
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| 20:34.45 | linux2 | ??? |
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| 20:34.51 | linux2 | i installed nvidia driver with nvidia installer |
| 20:34.56 | linux2 | but glx is all messed up |
| 20:35.09 | linux2 | it acts as if i don't have the kernel module |
| 20:35.21 | linux2 | what package contains the module? |
| 20:35.30 | Maulkin | linux2: Erm... you shoudn't really be using the nvidia installer. /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 20:35.43 | linux2 | Maulkin: well i did |
| 20:35.45 | linux2 | now what? |
| 20:35.54 | linux2 | how would i remove it? |
| 20:36.00 | Maulkin | !tell linux2 about nvidia |
| 20:36.13 | Maulkin | linux2: read what dpkg told you |
| 20:36.45 | kensai | nvidia installation has changed since I last used debian a few years back |
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| 20:37.06 | kensai | at least readind the wiki helps a lot |
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| 20:37.36 | Maulkin | kensai: It's actually quite easy now :) |
| 20:37.45 | kensai | yeah I can see that |
| 20:37.55 | kreg_work | i just added "options atyfb" to /etc/modprobe.conf. why doesn't it load the module at boot time? |
| 20:37.58 | kensai | module assistant is a great tool |
| 20:38.04 | neoxan | Pro Iran! |
| 20:38.08 | neoxan | :/ |
| 20:38.13 | Maulkin | kreg_work: put it in /etc/modules |
| 20:38.38 | kensai | hey guys which is the gnome2 metapackage for a complete gnome 2.14 installation? |
| 20:38.47 | neoxan | gnome-desktop |
| 20:38.51 | kensai | thx |
| 20:38.52 | neoxan | gnome-desktop-enviroment |
| 20:38.55 | neoxan | dunno |
| 20:38.56 | neoxan | ^^ |
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| 20:39.03 | neoxan | something like that, dont know how to spell it |
| 20:39.04 | neoxan | :S |
| 20:39.06 | kensai | well maybe gnome-core |
| 20:39.08 | Maulkin | !start a window manager war |
| 20:39.08 | dpkg | emacs bites! |
| 20:39.08 | kreg_work | Maulkin, that's for kernels 2.4 tho isn't it? |
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| 20:39.19 | kensai | let me ask dpkg |
| 20:39.24 | neoxan | (: |
| 20:39.27 | Maulkin | kreg_work: works for me with 2.6.16 :) |
| 20:39.28 | neoxan | dpkg knows everything |
| 20:39.28 | dpkg | Yes, I do, neoxan. |
| 20:39.29 | chreekat | I broke libapache2-mod-php4. I know the source of the problem (and I will describe the problem's effects), but I don't know what it is or where to look. :-/ So: |
| 20:39.59 | chreekat | My problem is that .php files are no longer sent to php; the raw php file is served |
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| 20:40.29 | Maulkin | chreekat: have you checked your mime types? |
| 20:40.43 | chreekat | Maulkin: no. |
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| 20:41.01 | Maulkin | chreekat: I'd try that first |
| 20:41.16 | chreekat | The source of the problem was an 'aptitude install -f' that decided it was going to remove 220 packages. |
| 20:41.49 | kensai | omg, I have never felt in love with a window manager like I am with Open Box |
| 20:42.05 | kensai | it is all a wm needs to be :) |
| 20:42.06 | Maulkin | chreekat: yes, that'll cause problems. |
| 20:42.13 | chreekat | I thought it was listing 'packages with updates that will not be installed', as I see sometimes. :-P |
| 20:42.20 | Maulkin | kensai: I've just desovered xfce. It's really nice :) |
| 20:42.31 | kensai | sure |
| 20:42.47 | chreekat | I got the list of packages from /var/log/aptitude and re-installed all of them, but now I have my problem |
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| 20:42.53 | chreekat | So I'll check mime types |
| 20:43.14 | kensai | i just hope the stock kernel-2.6.16.20 is built with gcc 4.1 |
| 20:43.35 | Maulkin | kensai: IIRC, yes, it is |
| 20:43.42 | kensai | yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:43.56 | Maulkin | chreekat: Well, it won't have *purged* those packages, so you may have to force a reconfigure |
| 20:44.16 | Maulkin | chreekat: or, you can remove with --purge and then reinstall, but you'll loose all your configs |
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| 20:45.04 | chreekat | Maulkin: mime.types looks fine. How do I force a reconfigure? And which sohuld I reconfigure, libapache2-mod-php4? |
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| 20:45.31 | Maulkin | chreekat: man dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:45.45 | Maulkin | chreekat: And yes, libapache2-mod-php4 should do it. |
| 20:45.55 | chreekat | Maulkin: I did try dpkg-reconfigure libapache-2-mod-php4 already and it changed nothing. Ah, I wondered if there was another method besides dpkg-reconfigure. |
| 20:45.55 | Maulkin | chreekat: Is this on sarge BTW? |
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| 20:47.12 | linux2 | where is a good list of apt-get sources? |
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| 20:47.49 | chreekat | Maulkin: Yes, Sarge. |
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| 20:48.12 | Maulkin | !mirror |
| 20:48.17 | Maulkin | !mirrors |
| 20:48.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian mirrors is use apt-setup, or at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt, or http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ to make a mirror |
| 20:48.21 | Maulkin | linux2: ^^ |
| 20:49.20 | Maulkin | chreekat: what's the output of "a2enmod php4" ? |
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| 20:50.02 | R-Ratones | msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 20:50.03 | R-Ratones | oops |
| 20:50.13 | Maulkin | :) |
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| 20:52.16 | chreekat | Maulkin: it said "Module php4 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.". I complied, and now it works. Heh. |
| 20:52.34 | Maulkin | chreekat: Brill :) |
| 20:52.35 | chreekat | I thought I tried /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, which supposedly did the same thing. Well, maybe I didn't. |
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| 20:52.46 | chreekat | Anyway, thanks. :) |
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| 20:52.55 | Maulkin | No problems, glad to help |
| 20:52.58 | Zta | I've installed gphoto2 and when I plug in my camera, I can only access it as root. /etc/udev/libgphoto2.rules and /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2.usermap contain proper info about my camera, it seems. Yet, my current USB device (/proc/bus/usb/002/003) has ownership root:root 644. If I give it 666, everything works as expected. How do I make debian give the device proper perms (chgrp camera)? |
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| 20:53.39 | Maulkin | Zta: You can just add yourself to the camera group |
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| 20:54.06 | Zta | Maulkin, I am. The device has root:root 644. |
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| 20:54.29 | deadcat | i am trying to make my box see my handspring visor again. i load visor. but no /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/pilot. what am i missing? |
| 20:54.31 | Maulkin | Zta: ahh, ok. Just checking my setup. |
| 20:54.40 | Maulkin | deadcat: sarge? |
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| 20:54.49 | deadcat | Maulkin: unstable |
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| 20:55.13 | deadcat | Maulkin: it used to work.. but i havent played with it in a long time though. |
| 20:55.13 | Zta | ll |
| 20:55.29 | Maulkin | deadcat: anything being seen by udev? |
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| 20:56.14 | Maulkin | Zta: in /etc/udev/libgphoto2.rules, is GROUP="camera" specified? |
| 20:56.17 | deadcat | Maulkin: nope. thats the weird. thing. when i press the sync button, lsusb shows handspring visor, but once the sync fails. lsusb doesn show anymore |
| 20:56.26 | Maulkin | deadcat: ahh, yeah |
| 20:56.29 | Maulkin | deadcat: It'll do that |
| 20:56.32 | deadcat | (= |
| 20:56.32 | killown | brazil winner |
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| 20:56.43 | Maulkin | deadcat: It destoys the device after it stops the sync |
| 20:56.50 | Maulkin | deadcat: I assume you want to do a sync? |
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| 20:57.50 | ktwilight | i have a pinning rule for apache2, but it's not quite working. anyone familliar with pin priorities? |
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| 20:58.05 | deadcat | Maulkin: ya |
| 20:58.18 | ktwilight | i've got it as Package: apache2* Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 1000 |
| 20:58.22 | deadcat | Maulkin: also jpilot is what i am using |
| 20:58.24 | Maulkin | deadcat: can't remember how I sorted it, but it basically involves starting the sync on the palm and the computer at *exactly* the right time, as in within 0.5 seconds of each other or something. |
| 20:58.30 | Maulkin | deadcat: ditto |
| 20:58.44 | deadcat | Maulkin: ah.. i remember that too (= |
| 20:58.47 | deadcat | let me try again. |
| 20:58.51 | Maulkin | deadcat: IIRC, it's a known bug. Don't know if there's a fix yet. See the BTS |
| 20:58.57 | Zta | Maulkin, /etc/udev/libgphoto2.rules has SYSFS{idVendor}=="04a9", SYSFS{idProduct}=="30eb", MODE="0660", GROUP="camera" |
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| 20:59.43 | Zta | Maulkin, /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2 has GROUP="camera" |
| 20:59.48 | deadcat | Maulkin: it complains about MULL user ID.. this thing is been away for like years. maybe the internal bat forgot about all the data. |
| 21:00.03 | Maulkin | Zta: hmm... it should be setting it ok then. is that also in /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libgphoto2.rules? |
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| 21:00.35 | Maulkin | deadcat: Could be. I'm using a clie, so not really sure about the handsprung series |
| 21:00.41 | xored | iam running bind9 as dns server. As normal DNS server unning as "router server" its fine. now i want the dns server to route every domain ending with .myhomhere to the router itself. I created a zone, entered the values, but it still doesen resolf |
| 21:01.05 | deadcat | Maulkin: its telling me to use "install-user /dev/pilot name numeric_id", but i dont have install-user command |
| 21:01.13 | Maulkin | xored: is it in named.conf as a master? |
| 21:01.29 | linux2 | i cannot install the nvidia driver cause it cannot find the package nvidia-kernel-source |
| 21:01.30 | xored | Maulkin: yes it is |
| 21:01.37 | linux2 | i have all repos setup |
| 21:01.39 | linux2 | what is wrong? |
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| 21:02.11 | xored | !paste |
| 21:02.11 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 21:02.13 | Maulkin | linux2: make sure you have 'contrib' and 'non-free' in your sources lists |
| 21:02.29 | linux2 | i do |
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| 21:02.33 | Maulkin | !find install-user |
| 21:02.34 | Zta | Maulkin, seems fine, yes |
| 21:02.54 | xored | Maulkin: thats my named.conf entry : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2835 |
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| 21:03.12 | Maulkin | Zta: I'm not sure then. I'd suggest trying the user lists |
| 21:03.39 | Zta | ok |
| 21:03.40 | xored | Maulkin: and thats my zones entries : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2836 |
| 21:03.50 | linux2 | Maulkin: yeah i have it |
| 21:03.56 | linux2 | Maulkin: it in the sources file |
| 21:04.08 | xored | linux2 : apt-get update |
| 21:04.15 | Maulkin | ta xored :) |
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| 21:04.29 | xored | Maulkin: ta ? |
| 21:04.31 | xored | Maulkin: :D |
| 21:04.52 | Maulkin | xored: == thanks |
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| 21:04.58 | xored | Maulkin: :ah :) |
| 21:05.02 | Maulkin | xored: I think that zone file may be wrong |
| 21:05.05 | Maulkin | checking |
| 21:05.18 | itchi | kreg_work: For the modules try 'modconf' ;-) |
| 21:05.40 | xored | in the resolf.conf of the server ( dns server) i entered "domain imp \n nameserver localhost" |
| 21:05.57 | Maulkin | xored: Change "localhost." on teh first line for "imp." |
| 21:06.03 | deadcat | Maulkin: ah. when i press sync they DO create those files in /dev, now i have to figure out the stupid userid (= |
| 21:06.09 | xored | ah, one sec Maulkin |
| 21:06.26 | Maulkin | xored: in your resolv.conf, use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost |
| 21:06.31 | Maulkin | deadcat: yeah :) |
| 21:06.37 | linux2 | xored: still nothing |
| 21:06.46 | xored | Maulkin: ok. I changed the line below too, that NS entry or ? |
| 21:07.11 | itchi | kreg_work: You need to install it, run it, an choose the modules (and arguments) that you want to load. It's very usefull and easy to use |
| 21:08.04 | xored | Maulkin: thats my zonefile now : http://channels.debian.net/paste/2837 |
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| 21:08.32 | xored | linux2: paste your sources.list |
| 21:09.12 | Maulkin | xored: that seems fine |
| 21:09.19 | Maulkin | xored: have you reloaded bind? |
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| 21:09.32 | xored | Maulkin: yes, and highered the serial number too |
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| 21:09.51 | xored | ah |
| 21:09.54 | xored | it worked |
| 21:09.55 | xored | but one sec |
| 21:10.05 | Maulkin | xored: good good :) |
| 21:10.15 | Maulkin | xored: I normally forget to bump teh serial number... :) |
| 21:10.23 | ktwilight | anyone good with apt-pinning? 'cuz i can't get it to work nicely :/ |
| 21:10.26 | Maulkin | xored: Though for a local server, it shoudn't matter. |
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| 21:10.52 | Maulkin | ktwilight: I'm sure lots of people are. What's the problem? |
| 21:10.54 | xored | Maulkin: i used dig, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2838 |
| 21:10.59 | xored | why there is no answer section |
| 21:11.01 | xored | ? |
| 21:11.22 | ktwilight | i've got it as Package: apache2* Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 1000 and it doesn't quite work. |
| 21:11.24 | xored | i mean, it works, he resolves, but i thought, there should be the answer in... |
| 21:11.37 | ktwilight | and trying to pin sarge's apache2 on etch |
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| 21:11.43 | ktwilight | s/and/am |
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| 21:12.07 | Maulkin | xored: your zone file is still wrong. hang on... |
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| 21:12.08 | ktwilight | apt.conf is defined with APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 21:12.50 | linux3 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main |
| 21:12.53 | linux3 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch mai |
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| 21:12.56 | linux3 | deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main |
| 21:13.02 | linux3 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main |
| 21:13.04 | xored | hmm, he resolves on the server himselv, but it seem not to work on the clients |
| 21:13.07 | linux3 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch non-free |
| 21:13.08 | jaye | I was wondering if someone could clarify the proper place to put an environment variable like JAVA_HOME so that the entire system can see it? |
| 21:13.09 | Maulkin | xored: see http://channels.debian.net/paste/2839. |
| 21:13.11 | linux3 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch contrib |
| 21:13.17 | ktwilight | .... |
| 21:13.22 | Maulkin | !tell linux2 about paste |
| 21:13.31 | EdLin | linux3: conrib and non-free can be on the same line with main |
| 21:13.32 | linux3 | xored, ok there |
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| 21:13.35 | EdLin | contrib* |
| 21:13.50 | Maulkin | !tell linux3 about paste |
| 21:14.08 | linux3 | EdLin, o thanks. but still not finding the pacakge i need |
| 21:14.10 | xored | linux2: take Maulkin advise, i will ignore the paste |
| 21:14.14 | linux3 | nvidia-kernel-source |
| 21:14.27 | EdLin | linux3: nvidia drivers are not in etch |
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| 21:15.10 | xored | Maulkin: ah, now it worked, thank you |
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| 21:15.24 | EdLin | !why is nvidia-kernel-source not in testing? |
| 21:15.24 | dpkg | nvidia-kernel-source is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-kernel-source |
| 21:15.51 | linux3 | EdLin, so do i add stable repo to my install or not? |
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| 21:15.58 | Maulkin | xored: no probs. Next time, you're better off asking in #bind though. There may not be anyone around who can help in here |
| 21:16.01 | GeorgeS069 | howdy folks |
| 21:16.18 | xored | Maulkin: ofc, iam sorry, maybe the wrong channel. Thank you anyway |
| 21:16.30 | Maulkin | xored: no probs :) |
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| 21:17.14 | GeorgeS069 | could someone point me to a really good How-To for setting up postfix,dovcote-IMAP,Amavisd-new and maia mailgurad on Etch? |
| 21:17.30 | Maulkin | linux3: You could, but there's no promise of it working |
| 21:17.48 | Maulkin | GeorgeS069: try debian-administration.org |
| 21:17.54 | GeorgeS069 | ok...thanks |
| 21:17.54 | deadcat | Maulkin: ah. what a bitch. finally... so tricky (=. has to be exact step and timing |
| 21:17.56 | GeorgeS069 | c ya |
| 21:18.00 | marcels__ | where can i d/load open office help manuel? |
| 21:18.02 | ktwilight | :/ |
| 21:18.09 | Maulkin | deadcat: see what I mean? :) |
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| 21:18.54 | deadcat | Maulkin: thanks for the help... i am gonna install palmorb on it for LCD output (= |
| 21:19.13 | Maulkin | ktwilight: Not really sure what you're trying to do. |
| 21:19.30 | Maulkin | !tell marcels__ about search |
| 21:19.46 | ktwilight | Maulkin, i'm trying to use sarge's apache2 in an etch box. |
| 21:19.59 | Maulkin | ktwilight: Erm... ok. Why? :) |
| 21:20.08 | Maulkin | ktwilight: Is it already installed? |
| 21:20.12 | ktwilight | it is installed |
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| 21:20.28 | ktwilight | but going through apt-get update && dist-upgrade will make apache2 upgraded to etch |
| 21:20.29 | Maulkin | ktwilight: try dpkg --set-selections |
| 21:20.30 | ktwilight | which i don't want |
| 21:20.39 | Maulkin | ktwilight: and mark it as 'hold' |
| 21:20.39 | linux3 | Maulkin, then how do i install |
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| 21:20.52 | ktwilight | Maulkin, nothing to do with /etc/apt/preferences? |
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| 21:21.03 | RoAkSoAx | hi there!! have a prolem when i install linux using : linux26 noapic nolapic my it doesnt detec dhcp, is that right or something is wrong? |
| 21:21.06 | Maulkin | linux3: apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source |
| 21:21.39 | linux3 | Maulkin, it cannot find the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 21:21.41 | Maulkin | RoAkSoAx: I don't think apic affects dhcp... |
| 21:21.49 | Maulkin | linux3: It probably wont' work then. |
| 21:22.01 | RoAkSoAx | ChanServ: Maulkin cuz everitime i try to install like that it doesnt dettect dhcp |
| 21:22.08 | Maulkin | linux3: try the lists |
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| 21:22.21 | RoAkSoAx | and if i choose manual instalation when im done it cant link with the router |
| 21:22.24 | RoAkSoAx | it says something like timou |
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| 21:22.35 | fiete | why doesnt dhclient stop itself after getting an ip? I had 73 instances running! |
| 21:22.58 | Maulkin | RoAkSoAx: It may do then. Erm... whaqt do you mean by 'manual install'? |
| 21:23.02 | unstable | fiete: killall dhclient |
| 21:23.03 | Maulkin | fiete: it does. |
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| 21:23.07 | linux3 | Maulkin, lists? |
| 21:23.11 | fiete | sure it does :-( |
| 21:23.25 | Maulkin | linux3: debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 21:23.38 | RoAkSoAx | Maulkin: aoutconfiguring ip gateway etc etc |
| 21:23.41 | rub | how could i know, what ip address is getting more bandwidth in my lan ?, is there one sniffer to get it and monitor it? |
| 21:23.55 | fiete | Maulkin: why? what for? |
| 21:23.57 | SlayerXP | linux2: lists are the name of the wooden poles placed down the middle of the field during a tourney to stop the jousting horses running into each other |
| 21:24.02 | RoAkSoAx | Maulkin: i mean doing it by myself, it dettects dhcp but cant get ip |
| 21:24.04 | abrotman | stew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:24.14 | rub | because my lan and internet is very slow |
| 21:24.23 | ktwilight | Maulkin, dpkg set-selections works perfect. but it's a bit dirty stating that upgrade failed, etc. |
| 21:24.26 | ktwilight | is there a better way? |
| 21:24.35 | Maulkin | RoAkSoAx: erm... if it detects dhcp, i think it is getting a ip |
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| 21:24.55 | Maulkin | ktwilight: not really a better way, no |
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| 21:25.10 | ktwilight | hmmm... |
| 21:25.18 | MoDaXaS | ktwilight: put it on hold |
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| 21:25.21 | ktwilight | care to explain what apt pin do then? |
| 21:25.29 | Maulkin | !pinning |
| 21:25.30 | dpkg | apt-pinning is, like, read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 21:25.35 | Maulkin | damn |
| 21:25.35 | ktwilight | i thought apt pin can just make sure one is using a specified version of a package. |
| 21:25.37 | MoDaXaS | ktwilight: aptitude hold apache2 |
| 21:25.42 | linux3 | Maulkin, i have no email client to send that with and don't feel like setting it up at the moment |
| 21:25.49 | ktwilight | apt-get dist-upgrade would rely on apt pin. no? |
| 21:25.51 | RoAkSoAx | Maulkin: it dettects but cant get ip, it says timeout |
| 21:26.17 | Maulkin | RoAkSoAx: does it work when you don't disable apic? |
| 21:26.35 | RoAkSoAx | Maulkin: yep it work fine |
| 21:26.51 | Maulkin | ktwilight: sort of. It's a way of specifying a preffered suite. |
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| 21:27.13 | ktwilight | MoDaXaS, does the same thing. apt-get dist-upgrade wants to upgrade apache2. |
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| 21:27.41 | Maulkin | ktwilight: OOI, why do you want to hold it? |
| 21:27.44 | RoAkSoAx | Maulkin: when apic is on it says dhcprequest on eth0 255..... |
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| 21:27.47 | ktwilight | hmm...so it would make sense to make sure sarge's apache2 is never upgraded to etch through apt's preferences. right? |
| 21:27.56 | EdLin | sorry, I got disconnected |
| 21:27.58 | RoAkSoAx | and stay like that, dowsnt recieve any ip |
| 21:28.03 | ktwilight | i want to make sure the apache version that i'm using is the same as my server. |
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| 21:28.40 | Maulkin | ktwilight: ahh, ok |
| 21:29.04 | ktwilight | yea |
| 21:29.15 | RoAkSoAx | Maulkin i booted with noapic cuz when it loads my my ipw2200 shows APIC error on CPU0 :40 (40) |
| 21:29.15 | MoDaXaS | ktwilight: ok, try putting main dependences on hold too |
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| 21:29.18 | ktwilight | i've read up 'bout apt-pinning, but...i dunno :/ |
| 21:29.29 | ktwilight | hmm...will try that |
| 21:29.48 | Maulkin | ktwilight: pinning is really for entire suites, not packages. I'd try holding |
| 21:29.59 | MoDaXaS | ktwilight: you really don't need apt-pinning for this (if you have sarge apache2 already installed) |
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| 21:30.38 | kensai | hmm rhythmbox in sid is unstallable |
| 21:30.46 | ktwilight | hmm...i've also hold the dependencies. |
| 21:30.58 | ktwilight | ahso. entire suites. no wonder. *shrugs* |
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| 21:31.52 | Maulkin | kensai: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=372185 |
| 21:31.59 | ktwilight | hmm...holding is just a temp solution. i need to hold it everytime before a dist-upgrade...!! |
| 21:32.08 | ktwilight | quite a pain... :/ |
| 21:32.17 | Maulkin | ktwilight: You should never be doing a dist-upgrade... |
| 21:32.18 | kensai | Maulkin, do you ever sleep? man thx very appreciated |
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| 21:32.24 | ktwilight | oh |
| 21:32.31 | abrotman | Maulkin: you sleep less than me! |
| 21:32.31 | Maulkin | kensai: yeah, off to bed in a sec |
| 21:32.48 | MoDaX | ktwilight: no. hold is effective until you unhold |
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| 21:33.12 | ktwilight | not in my box :/ |
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| 21:34.24 | hjubal | bye |
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| 21:34.41 | ktwilight | so what i did is aptitude hold apache2 && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. still it doesn't hold it, even though it specifically said it's hold. |
| 21:34.54 | jelly-home | I'm tired of xmms' on playlist and no music library ability. Can someone recommend a decent music/media player? It can be from KDE but I'd prefer something unbundled. |
| 21:34.59 | jelly-home | s/on/one/ |
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| 21:35.18 | ktwilight | try amarok? |
| 21:35.22 | ktwilight | quite nice |
| 21:35.22 | Maiale | ciao |
| 21:35.26 | ktwilight | another would be lamip |
| 21:35.28 | Maiale | ma che bello |
| 21:35.30 | USmarine | amarok |
| 21:35.33 | Maiale | exit |
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| 21:35.59 | MoDaX | ktwilight: what if you do aptitude dist-upgrade? |
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| 21:36.22 | MoDaX | ktwilight: i.e. use aptitude instead of apt-get |
| 21:36.56 | ktwilight | k, i've just tested with using dpkg set-selections, and it works better than apt-get's hold. |
| 21:37.18 | ktwilight | aptitude's dist-upgrade doesn't hold dependencies |
| 21:37.37 | MoDaX | ktwilight: echo "apache2 hold" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 21:37.47 | jelly-home | Does amarok have scrobbler/last.fm/whatever it's called support? ... gonna find in few minutes anyway. |
| 21:37.55 | ktwilight | yup, that's it. |
| 21:38.09 | ktwilight | no idea jelly-home. sorry |
| 21:38.23 | MoDaX | jelly-home: yeah |
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| 21:39.05 | ktwilight | at least apt-get dist-upgrade holds the dependencies. after set-selections. |
| 21:39.05 | MoDaX | ktwilight: it won't hold deps automatically. do this manually |
| 21:39.14 | Silent_al | has anybody here ever used the tn5250 telnet emulator for accessing an IBM iSeries (AS/400)? |
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| 21:39.27 | ktwilight | so apt-get and aptitude aren't the same....hmm... |
| 21:39.53 | MoDaX | ktwilight: yeah, I just realized that aptitude hold uses different mechanism for holding which is only effective for aptitude itself |
| 21:40.02 | ktwilight | true |
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| 21:40.22 | ktwilight | sounds like a package may break if one installed it using apt-get and remove with aptitude, or whatever along these lines. i think... |
| 21:40.40 | jelly-home | but it works very nice if you use only aptitude. ;-) |
| 21:40.42 | ktwilight | anywayz, at least a tempo solution works. |
| 21:40.52 | ktwilight | the interface is quite confusing to me :/ |
| 21:40.58 | MoDaX | ktwilight: no. both handle deps perfectly |
| 21:41.01 | stormrider_may | Hello, i have just installed nvidia drivers but when i run cedega's test it says that i don't have "OpenGL Direct Rendering". How can i fix this? |
| 21:41.02 | ktwilight | my brain isn't that almighty :( |
| 21:41.03 | ktwilight | oh ok. |
| 21:41.19 | jelly-home | ktwilight: I use it as apt-get replacement. Hate the UI, reminds me of dselect. |
| 21:41.28 | MoDaX | ktwilight: the package can be put on with dselect too :) |
| 21:41.34 | MoDaX | on hold* |
| 21:41.47 | ktwilight | ok...enough with the plateau of suggestions :P |
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| 21:42.04 | ktwilight | i'll stick with dpkg and apt-get. :) |
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| 21:43.19 | ktwilight | MoDaX, thanks btw :) |
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| 21:44.50 | marcels__ | Maulkin: open office has no manuel? |
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| 21:46.13 | linux3 | ok i followed instructions |
| 21:46.17 | linux3 | and tryed installing |
| 21:46.18 | linux3 | but nope |
| 21:46.21 | linux3 | still doesn't work |
| 21:46.24 | linux3 | cannot load GLX |
| 21:46.33 | linux3 | what package contains the glx module |
| 21:47.25 | ktwilight | ? |
| 21:47.28 | Silent_al | !glx |
| 21:47.29 | dpkg | it has been said that glx is opengl for X. Currently, Matrox MGA-G200, MGA-G400, ATI Rage based cards, Intel i810 cards, and nvidia's RIVA series are supported. it can be grabbed from CVS at :mailto:pserver:anonymous@cvs.utah-glx.sourceforge.net:/cvs/utah-glx or at http://utah-glx.sourceforge.net, or ask me about `glx debs`, or included in XF4 nowadays and uses dri, so utah-glx is obsolete. |
| 21:47.44 | ktwilight | what's the issue linux3? |
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| 21:48.04 | linux3 | ktwilight, well i am trying to install the nvidia graphics drivers |
| 21:48.15 | linux3 | so i tried it the debian way and the nvidia-installer way |
| 21:48.25 | linux3 | but still i end up with the problem of glx not working |
| 21:48.36 | linux3 | so thus no 3d accellertation |
| 21:48.48 | ktwilight | etch? or sid? |
| 21:49.01 | linux3 | etch |
| 21:49.19 | ktwilight | i haven't seen someone making it work on etc using the debian way. |
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| 21:49.31 | ktwilight | i tried, asked, and searched, nothing. |
| 21:49.35 | ktwilight | so i just went the official way. |
| 21:49.42 | ktwilight | oh yea. sorry. someone did make it happen though. |
| 21:49.49 | bvs | m-a a-i nvidia ? |
| 21:49.50 | ktwilight | he used sid's package. |
| 21:50.03 | ktwilight | but kept everything else etch. |
| 21:50.24 | ktwilight | won't work bvs. etch doesn't have nvidia-glx (yet?). |
| 21:50.35 | bvs | oh ok |
| 21:51.06 | MoDaX | linux3: you need to install nvidia-kernel-src and linux-headers-`uname -r`. then module-assistant auto-install nvidia and eventually install nvidia-glx |
| 21:51.18 | linux3 | MoDaX, i did all that |
| 21:51.40 | MoDaX | linux3: lsmod | grep nvidia |
| 21:51.42 | ktwilight | upgrade to a more current kernel. then use sid's. |
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| 21:52.07 | linux3 | nvidia 3707496 8 |
| 21:52.07 | linux3 | agpgart 31560 2 nvidia,intel_agp |
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| 21:52.32 | bvs | MoDaX, doesn't matter if he can't install nvidia-glx |
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| 21:53.10 | linux3 | bvs, i installed nvidia-glx |
| 21:53.34 | USmarine | if i use legacy i dont need nvidia-glx right? |
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| 21:53.53 | USmarine | my xorg.conf is using nvidia |
| 21:53.58 | MoDaX | linux3: glxinfo |
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| 21:54.10 | linux3 | MoDaX, doesn't work |
| 21:54.20 | linux3 | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 21:54.20 | linux3 | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 21:55.03 | MoDaX | linux2: have you checked Xorg log? |
| 21:55.06 | MoDaX | oops |
| 21:55.11 | MoDaX | linux3: have you checked Xorg log? |
| 21:55.22 | linux3 | (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) |
| 21:55.35 | linux3 | MoDaX, yeah linux2 is me also |
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| 21:56.33 | MoDaX | linux3: and you have Driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf? |
| 21:57.10 | linux3 | (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX |
| 21:57.15 | linux3 | there is also that l ine |
| 21:59.13 | linux3 | MoDaX, yep |
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| 22:00.56 | MoDaX | linux3: ensure you DO NOT have Load "dri" and Load "GLCore" and you DO have Load "glx" in xorg.conf |
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| 22:03.29 | USmarine | can some1 help me? |
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| 22:03.30 | USmarine | if i use legacy i dont need nvidia-glx right? |
| 22:03.32 | linux3 | MoDaX, xorg.conf looks fine |
| 22:03.36 | MoDaX | USmarine: I don't think so |
| 22:03.37 | linux3 | cause im using the nvidia drivers |
| 22:03.47 | linux3 | i had to actually make a symbolic link to the module |
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| 22:04.29 | USmarine | the problem is that i can test frames now |
| 22:04.33 | USmarine | cant* |
| 22:04.38 | USmarine | glxgears... |
| 22:04.48 | MoDaX | linux3: nvidia-installer might have fscked your setup |
| 22:05.03 | ktwilight | you are right USmarine |
| 22:05.14 | linux3 | MoDaX, all nvidia setup did was add a module to the wrong folder |
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| 22:05.25 | du_ | anyone here uses enlightenment? |
| 22:05.28 | linux3 | which i liked to the correct dir |
| 22:05.55 | linux3 | this is so far the only think i don't like about debian |
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| 22:06.03 | mixa | hi |
| 22:06.05 | mixa | all |
| 22:06.34 | MoDaX | linux3: nvidia driver needs proprietary libGL to work |
| 22:06.44 | MoDaX | I mean, glx to work |
| 22:06.53 | linux3 | where do i get that? |
| 22:07.02 | linux3 | using the nvidia install should have made the module right? |
| 22:07.25 | MoDaX | linux3: nvidia-glx should have installed it |
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| 22:07.42 | MoDaX | linux3: what's you card btw? |
| 22:07.44 | linux3 | MoDaX, where? |
| 22:07.50 | linux3 | 4000MX |
| 22:07.54 | linux3 | and i have another comp |
| 22:07.58 | linux3 | with a 6200 fx |
| 22:07.58 | mixa | i want to change and replace a word for ad.c |
| 22:07.59 | MoDaX | linux3: /usr/lib/ |
| 22:08.03 | mixa | help me pls |
| 22:08.05 | USmarine | isnt it 400mx ? |
| 22:08.23 | linux3 | MoDaX, what is the name of the file |
| 22:08.26 | linux3 | USmarine, nope |
| 22:08.59 | MoDaX | linux3: dpkg -L nvidia-glx |
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| 22:09.27 | mixa | help me pls |
| 22:09.38 | mixa | i want to replace a word .. |
| 22:09.41 | mixa | but i dont know |
| 22:09.49 | USmarine | rename the file? |
| 22:09.50 | mixa | how can i do echo with replace command .. |
| 22:09.53 | mixa | no |
| 22:09.57 | mixa | replace |
| 22:09.57 | MoDaX | USmarine: you need nvidia-glx-legacy actually |
| 22:09.59 | linux3 | MoDaX, ok i have 3 kernel modules with the libGLcore extension |
| 22:10.11 | USmarine | MoDaX, its installed |
| 22:10.15 | linux3 | /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 |
| 22:10.15 | linux3 | /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.7676 |
| 22:10.15 | linux3 | /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.8762 |
| 22:10.15 | mixa | for example i have a file .. |
| 22:10.17 | USmarine | but i cant test the frames now |
| 22:10.24 | mixa | tthats names a.c |
| 22:10.33 | USmarine | since i havent got glxgears ... |
| 22:10.35 | mixa | and a word in a.c its mix . |
| 22:10.43 | mixa | i want to change all mix |
| 22:10.47 | MoDaX | USmarine: mesa-utils |
| 22:10.54 | mixa | and i want to make pix |
| 22:10.54 | USmarine | will do |
| 22:11.01 | linux3 | MoDaX, so what now |
| 22:11.01 | mixa | how i do .. |
| 22:11.04 | linux3 | i mean it should work |
| 22:11.18 | USmarine | mixa, why dont you use an editor kile kate |
| 22:11.26 | MoDaX | linux3: bad. you have two versions of nvidia drivers installed |
| 22:11.37 | linux3 | MoDaX, now what |
| 22:11.40 | linux3 | format the drive |
| 22:11.42 | linux3 | and install again |
| 22:11.58 | mirak | say hello to mirak |
| 22:12.00 | MoDaX | linux3: ls -l /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 |
| 22:12.02 | mixa | USmarine |
| 22:12.07 | mixa | i can use |
| 22:12.17 | mixa | i want to make that echo |
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| 22:12.47 | MoDaX | linux3: and ls -l /usr/lib/GL.so.1 |
| 22:13.05 | itchi | !tell mixa -about ask |
| 22:13.36 | linux3 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-06-13 17:41 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 -> libGLcore.so.1.0.8762 |
| 22:14.03 | MoDaX | linux3: and the other one |
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| 22:14.29 | linux3 | MoDaX, i only have libGL.so.1 |
| 22:14.31 | mixa | itchi: i want to change mixa all words with echo .. |
| 22:14.44 | mixa | how i do .. |
| 22:14.47 | linux3 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2006-06-13 17:41 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 -> libGL.so.1.0.8762 |
| 22:14.53 | itchi | s/old/new ?? |
| 22:15.00 | linux3 | i have the nvidia installer for that nvidia driver also |
| 22:15.10 | linux3 | i have 7676 loaded right now |
| 22:15.12 | MoDaX | linux3: yeah, my typo. now dmesg | grep NVIDIA |
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| 22:15.31 | MoDaX | linux3: so don't expect glx to work |
| 22:15.42 | linux3 | nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. |
| 22:15.42 | linux3 | NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-7676 Fri Jul 29 12:58:54 PDT 2005 |
| 22:15.47 | USmarine | MoDaX, installed mesa-utils, now what? |
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| 22:16.11 | MoDaX | USmarine: glxgears -printfps |
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| 22:16.14 | nux | hi all. whats the pkg name for netwach ? |
| 22:16.14 | linux3 | MoDaX, ok so if i reinstall the latest which was the 8 one then it should work? |
| 22:17.11 | USmarine | 2043 frames in 5.0 seconds = 408.483 FPS |
| 22:17.13 | MoDaX | linux3: you said you had done module-assistant etc. part? |
| 22:17.15 | USmarine | is this bad? |
| 22:17.21 | linux3 | MoDaX, yeah |
| 22:17.30 | linux3 | but it doesn't appear to have done anything |
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| 22:17.44 | xL0gic | has anyone been able to get google earth to run on sid? |
| 22:17.51 | xL0gic | i keep getting seg faults. |
| 22:18.02 | USmarine | it runs cool on etch |
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| 22:18.26 | nux | wrong gcc version you compiled it with |
| 22:18.34 | nux | or wrong Qt version |
| 22:18.40 | nux | ? |
| 22:19.05 | linux3 | MoDaX, i will brb. im gonna install latest driver again |
| 22:19.08 | nux | anyway.. whats the pkg name for netwatch? |
| 22:19.16 | MoDaX | linux3: rmmod nvidia |
| 22:19.23 | MoDaX | linux3: modprobe nvidia |
| 22:19.37 | MoDaX | logged out of X |
| 22:19.49 | nux | what is netwatch called with apt? |
| 22:19.54 | itchi | nux: apt-file netwatch ?? |
| 22:19.54 | linux3 | k. brb |
| 22:20.14 | nux | apt-get install netwatch does not exist |
| 22:20.48 | TimRiker | nux: netdiag is the package. try: apt-cache search netwatch |
| 22:20.50 | MoDaX | USmarine: what's your card? |
| 22:21.00 | USmarine | gforce4 mx440 64mb |
| 22:21.20 | nux | TimRiker, thxz |
| 22:21.27 | USmarine | wooow |
| 22:21.28 | USmarine | 32347 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6469.161 FPS |
| 22:21.46 | MoDaX | USmarine: don't resize the window |
| 22:21.47 | MoDaX | :) |
| 22:21.55 | USmarine | i didnt |
| 22:21.55 | itchi | !netwatc |
| 22:22.01 | USmarine | i jsut let it run |
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| 22:22.11 | linux2 | MoDaX: ok now it quits out saying |
| 22:22.12 | MoDaX | USmarine: glxinfo should tell if everything is OK |
| 22:22.18 | itchi | !tell nux -about netwatc |
| 22:22.24 | linux2 | failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module |
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| 22:22.55 | MoDaX | linux2: dmesg | grep NVIDIA | tail -n1 |
| 22:23.06 | USmarine | a lot of output |
| 22:23.06 | nux | read up-.. |
| 22:23.13 | USmarine | anything specific i should see? |
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| 22:23.47 | MoDaX | USmarine: client glx vendor string |
| 22:23.51 | stew | TimRiker: apt seems to spit out random stuff from time to time, like "16:38 < apt> hard drive failure!" do you know what that is all about? |
| 22:24.02 | MoDaX | linux2: which version? |
| 22:24.09 | USmarine | maverick@heavyloader:~$ dmesg | grep NVIDIA | tail -n1 |
| 22:24.09 | USmarine | NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-7174 Tue Mar 22 06:44:39 PST 2005 |
| 22:24.19 | TimRiker | stew: hmm. nope. I'll ask it. |
| 22:24.25 | MoDaX | linux2: I mean don't use nvidia installer |
| 22:24.28 | USmarine | server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 22:24.29 | linux2 | 8762 |
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| 22:24.50 | MoDaX | USmarine: good then |
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| 22:25.03 | USmarine | ty :P |
| 22:25.09 | linux2 | MoDaX: it is using the right kernel module now |
| 22:25.14 | linux2 | but its messed up |
| 22:25.31 | MoDaX | linux2: reinstall nvidia-glx |
| 22:25.59 | USmarine | how can i see xorg version? |
| 22:26.22 | kensai | Xorg -v isn't it? |
| 22:26.36 | MoDaX | USmarine: X -version |
| 22:26.41 | TimRiker | apt: onjoin lars-ut |
| 22:26.51 | USmarine | ok, it's 7.0 |
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| 22:27.15 | linux2 | MoDaX: then what? |
| 22:27.21 | TimRiker | silly bot. |
| 22:27.37 | MoDaX | linux2: try starting X again... |
| 22:27.46 | linux2 | MoDaX: still fails |
| 22:27.59 | TimRiker | stew: that is an onjoin message added by bl4 on Fri May 19 07:32:12 2006. What channel did it show in? I thought onjoin was off in here. |
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| 22:28.23 | xL0gic | what would i need to install to meet this requirement (as shown on the google earth website): glibc: 2.3.2 w/ NPTL or later |
| 22:28.25 | TimRiker | hmm nope.... |
| 22:28.27 | stew | TimRiker: this channel. it only happens every once in a while and it doens't seem to be onjoin. its no biggie, just curious really |
| 22:28.38 | TimRiker | apt: chanset #debian OnJoin 0 |
| 22:28.38 | apt | Setting OnJoin for #debian to '0'. |
| 22:28.45 | TimRiker | stew: turned off. |
| 22:28.58 | stew | TimRiker: oh when lars-ut joins. i see |
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| 22:29.06 | jelly-home | xL0gic: libc6-i686 |
| 22:29.15 | stew | TimRiker: thanks |
| 22:29.16 | linux2 | MoDaX: i think i got it |
| 22:29.17 | xL0gic | jelly-home: thanks. |
| 22:29.18 | Heston | how well does debian do as a workstation/desktop ? |
| 22:29.20 | linux2 | hang on one sec |
| 22:29.26 | MoDaX | linux2: are you sure old X server is down. I mean, if your use {kdm,gdm,xdm} do invoke-rc.d {kdm,gdm,xdm} stop |
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| 22:30.24 | jelly-home | xL0gic: verify you have NPTL with "getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION" command |
| 22:30.29 | linux2 | MoDaX: appears to be all set. except for the super high resolution |
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| 22:30.42 | jelly-home | xL0gic: you also need a 2.6 kernel. |
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| 22:31.31 | MoDaX | linux2: ? |
| 22:31.34 | linux2 | MoDaX: YAY |
| 22:31.39 | xL0gic | jelly-home: i now have ntpl 2.3.6 and a 2.6.16.20 kernel so let me try again.. thanks for the help. |
| 22:31.47 | linux2 | MoDaX: it is simple to install. here is what you have to do |
| 22:31.57 | linux2 | download the latest nvidia install from their website |
| 22:32.04 | linux2 | then install nvidia-glx package |
| 22:32.07 | linux2 | and your all set |
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| 22:32.48 | itchi | Ola, Google earth (beta) for Linux ... :-) |
| 22:33.21 | MoDaX | linux2: no no. you DON'T need nvidia-installer if you use deb packages |
| 22:33.32 | xL0gic | jelly-home: damn, still segfaulting.. the worst part is it only gives that output to the console: "Segmentation fault". |
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| 22:33.39 | linux2 | MoDaX: but debian packages are a pain |
| 22:33.45 | xL0gic | jelly-home: so i have no idea how to try and fix it. |
| 22:33.53 | MoDaX | linux2: don't mix nvidia-glx with nvidia-installer |
| 22:34.05 | jelly-home | xL0gic: did it segfault even before installing libc6-i686? |
| 22:34.09 | linux2 | MoDaX: how do you show fps with glxgears? |
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| 22:34.14 | xL0gic | jelly-home: yeah. |
| 22:34.16 | linux2 | MoDaX: well i am now and its working |
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| 22:34.29 | MoDaX | linux2: glxgears -printfps |
| 22:34.41 | xL0gic | jelly-home: it asked me to install bitstream verdana fonts, so i did, then segfaults. |
| 22:35.01 | linux2 | ok so 1022 fps |
| 22:35.15 | jelly-home | xL0gic: hrm. Do they have a native linux version now? |
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| 22:35.35 | xL0gic | jelly-home: yes , brand new. a .bin file you run.. |
| 22:35.38 | MoDaX | linux2: deb packages are better, because libGL and stuff won't be overwritten by next xorg update |
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| 22:36.19 | itchi | ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:36.22 | linux2 | in theory do i ever have to reinstall debian again? |
| 22:36.34 | jelly-home | xL0gic: I suppose I could give it a whirl. the beta or the "stable" release? |
| 22:36.41 | MoDaX | linux2: no |
| 22:36.47 | itchi | I guess i need 3D up an running to try Google Earth on Linux :-/ |
| 22:36.53 | xL0gic | jelly-home: the beta, as the stable doesn't support linux. |
| 22:36.57 | MoDaX | linux2: dist-upgrade should be enough |
| 22:37.18 | xL0gic | itchi: what graphics adapter do you have? |
| 22:37.19 | MoDaX | itchi: seems so |
| 22:37.41 | itchi | xL0gic: An ATI Radeon 9600SE. |
| 22:37.45 | xL0gic | jelly-home: are you running debian sid? |
| 22:38.10 | xL0gic | itchi: have you tried installing the fglrx drivers in the repositories? |
| 22:38.23 | jelly-home | xL0gic: mostly etch, but yeah. |
| 22:38.43 | itchi | xL0gic: Yes, i have try these, and also these of /msg ati debs. But i get 3D not working here on Sarge :-/ |
| 22:38.44 | linux2 | MoDaX: how come my progress bars are just showing up as grey bars |
| 22:38.48 | linux2 | they used to show up with colors? |
| 22:38.52 | jelly-home | xL0gic: see you in ... wget says ETA 07:00. |
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| 22:39.39 | xL0gic | jelly-home: sounds good. |
| 22:39.47 | donfilipo | itchi hi so if i remember you were here about 5hours ago trying to enable 3d? |
| 22:40.08 | MoDaX | linux2: dunno |
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| 22:40.12 | itchi | donfilipo: Yes, right. That was my last try |
| 22:40.35 | xL0gic | itchi: those should work. do you get errors when installing? in your x.org log? dmesg? |
| 22:40.36 | itchi | donfilipo: But i try again ;-) I hope i get it an day running :-/ |
| 22:40.36 | donfilipo | itchi and? did you succseed? |
| 22:40.47 | pipeline | Today is a sad day, as I have installed a proprietary X11 implementation :( |
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| 22:41.13 | MoDaX | itchi: install libgl1-mesa-glx. this might be enough |
| 22:41.38 | itchi | xL0gic: I run Sarge with XFree. I get no error, it's looks that 3D are running, but's it's verrry slow |
| 22:41.43 | Heston | hey pipeline, so you said you are using debian as a workstation? |
| 22:42.33 | MoDaX | itchi: no wonder. 3d is done in software instead of hardware |
| 22:42.38 | itchi | MoDaX: It's looks that it's not available |
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| 22:43.03 | MoDaX | itchi: xlibmesa-gl for sarge |
| 22:43.59 | donfilipo | itchi: slow 3d...listen install armagetron i get 150FPS in that little funny game so you should more...it's in synaptic and it gives you info about system |
| 22:43.59 | MoDaX | itchi: you will need fglrx drivers for hardware accelaration with your card |
| 22:44.45 | xL0gic | itchi: what driver? fglrx, or ati? vesa? |
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| 22:45.19 | itchi | xL0gic: It's fglrx i use, hhmm ati?? Is that the opensource one ? |
| 22:46.12 | itchi | donfilipo: When i try armatron i get an error about libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:46.18 | xL0gic | itchi: yes, ati is the open source. |
| 22:46.54 | xL0gic | itchi: and what output does fglrxinfo give you? |
| 22:47.36 | donfilipo | itchi...be glad i read something about that error it can be fixed...mine 3d is still greezing after 10-300 sec no known cure |
| 22:48.18 | itchi | xL0gic: Yep, it's looks that i have remove it :-/ I had begin to give another try 45 minutes ago and it's already removed :-/ |
| 22:48.38 | MoDaX | itchi: so your fglrx install is broken then |
| 22:48.39 | beefcake | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.41 | itchi | So i have again many work i guess :-/ |
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| 22:49.01 | itchi | beefcake: An blonde or an brown ?? |
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| 22:50.44 | itchi | MoDaX: Yeah, i had retry some minutes ago and the first thing with what i have begin is to remove these packages. And then we have do this discussion here. But now i can not more show some informations because i have already remove packages. Like i wanted to give it another try, I'm desesperated. I hate ATI and love a bit more NVidea :-/ |
| 22:51.05 | jelly-home | xL0gic: hmm, works for me, but I have xorg drivers for opengl, not fglrx. |
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| 22:51.25 | xL0gic | let me try with those then.. brb. |
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| 22:54.51 | xL0gic | jelly-home: hey guess what? it worked |
| 22:54.55 | xL0gic | with the open source drivers. but reaaally slow |
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| 22:58.37 | ricochet | is there a way to change a user's UID? |
| 22:59.36 | ultraviolet16 | can anyone tell me the difference between libmysqlclient15-dev |
| 22:59.47 | ultraviolet16 | and the libmysqlclient15off package |
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| 23:01.45 | abrotman | ultraviolet16: try reading the description |
| 23:03.08 | stew | ultraviolet16: read /usr/share/doc/libmysqlclient15off/README.Debian |
| 23:03.44 | ultraviolet16 | great, thanks a lot |
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| 23:04.05 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: restart |
| 23:04.05 | dpkg | this aint no stinkin' winblows, or "Microsoft Windows: Your mouse has moved; please restart for changes to take effect" |
| 23:05.30 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 23:07.06 | Silent_al | dpkg, i love you |
| 23:07.06 | dpkg | I love you too, silent_al. |
| 23:07.19 | Silent_al | dpkg , awww |
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| 23:07.42 | Silent_al | dpkg, how are you? |
| 23:07.42 | dpkg | Silent_al: pretty good. how about you? |
| 23:07.50 | Silent_al | dpkg, im ok |
| 23:08.04 | Silent_al | dpkg, tell me about life |
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| 23:08.36 | Silent_al | dpkg, am i an idiot? |
| 23:08.46 | Silent_al | !idiot |
| 23:08.46 | dpkg | I know you are, but what am I?, or someone who tries to use a Ubuntu package on Debian and calls it a dpkg issue when dependencies dont resolve |
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| 23:09.46 | Silent_al | dpkg,lart silent_al |
| 23:10.58 | Silent_al | dpkg,good night |
| 23:11.01 | visik7 | installing accross different distro is bad but is it correct to recompile from ubuntu to debian and vice versa ? |
| 23:11.28 | Shadowcat | !tell Silent_al about abuse |
| 23:11.34 | JoshTriplett | visik7: Often less bad, but still potentially problematic if the packages do something differently. |
| 23:12.10 | Silent_al | Shadowcat, hehe , we were just having a little chat ;-) |
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| 23:12.27 | itchi | !beer |
| 23:12.27 | dpkg | i guess beer is liquid gold mate |
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| 23:13.01 | Silent_al | !beer itchi |
| 23:13.07 | Shadowcat | seriously |
| 23:13.09 | itchi | I get my 3D running guys. Could you believe it. I'm playing foobilliard. Crazy Crazy crazy and finaly to simply to setup :-) |
| 23:13.11 | Shadowcat | stop abusing the bot |
| 23:13.19 | Silent_al | okay |
| 23:14.00 | itchi | Yeah My ATI Radeon 9600SE is been working :-) WITH 3D :-) :-) :-) |
| 23:14.36 | xL0gic | itchi: oooh , try google earth |
| 23:14.41 | Silent_al | Shadowcat, i'll "rape" him pm where nobody can see us . muhahaha :P |
| 23:14.51 | Silent_al | in* |
| 23:15.07 | itchi | oooooooooooollllllllllaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllaaaaaaaaaa :-) |
| 23:15.40 | itchi | 3D working guys, many thanks and lots of beer, or no, you could get of my champagne :-) |
| 23:15.57 | itchi | Oh my god :-) |
| 23:16.05 | donfilipo | itchi: congratulations...fglrx driver or open mesa? |
| 23:16.23 | itchi | donfilipo: OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600SE Generic ?? |
| 23:16.31 | Shadowcat | Silent_al: or we can just ell dondelelcaro right now and he can add you to the bot's ignore list |
| 23:16.38 | Shadowcat | tell* |
| 23:16.55 | Silent_al | itchi, sorry , no champagne on the bar tobight . but you can always get a vodka instead ;-) |
| 23:17.16 | Silent_al | Shadowcat, alright i 'll stop |
| 23:17.31 | Silent_al | going 2 sleep anyway :) |
| 23:17.46 | itchi | donfilipo: I have follow this way http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt and have get an XFree config that the ATI installer have made. And it work, so i have realy not do many things to get it working :-) |
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| 23:18.32 | itchi | Olllaaaallaaa, i neeed to sshoowww thhhiss to ssomme guys, never he would believe me ... |
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| 23:18.43 | donfilipo | itchi looking right away thanks |
| 23:18.44 | muaddib | I have a bunch of file that total over a million however the size of each file is no more then 10 meg |
| 23:18.46 | muaddib | any suggestions on how to move them from one server to another |
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| 23:19.50 | JoshTriplett | muaddib: rsync or tar | ssh | tar |
| 23:19.52 | pipeline | muaddib: tar |
| 23:20.13 | donfilipo | itchi you are running stabile sarge? |
| 23:20.17 | itchi | I'm so happy guys, many thanks for you're support and so, without you're help i had never could do it. Many !beer for everyone :-) |
| 23:20.29 | itchi | donfilipo: Yes, Sarge :-) |
| 23:21.01 | itchi | donfilipo: I esperated that it would work in it and yes ;-) So i not need to go to Testing. Not especially for that ;-) |
| 23:21.02 | muaddib | JoshTriplett: It seems that rsync only transfer 20 files every 15-20 secs |
| 23:21.39 | bmishy | hello |
| 23:21.56 | JoshTriplett | muaddib: Either rsync -avz /some/dir remote-machine:/some/dir, or tar cvf - /some/dir | ssh remote-machine tar xvf - -C /some/dir |
| 23:22.10 | xL0gic | muaddib: 20 files in 20 seconds, 1 file per second, at 10 megs per file, 10 megabytes per second. |
| 23:22.11 | donfilipo | itchi: yes nice times...but this new one looks nicer....grrr ...probably someday they will figure it out |
| 23:22.37 | xL0gic | muaddib: sounds fast to me. my homemade cat5e cable doesnt get over 6 mb/s |
| 23:22.39 | itchi | donfilipo: What mean you? |
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| 23:23.30 | donfilipo | itchi i am running testing version etch i think it is called and here the problem is different |
| 23:23.57 | itchi | donfilipo: Is it not running on you're system ? |
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| 23:25.08 | abrotman | jelly-home: i'm here too! |
| 23:25.42 | itchi | abrotman: My 3D are up and running, take the champagne man ;-) |
| 23:25.49 | abrotman | itchi: eh? ATI? |
| 23:26.04 | itchi | abrotman: ATI 9600Se on Sarge with Xfree |
| 23:26.04 | donfilipo | itchi: nope maybe i will install the old sarge again...the problem is i have the install cd from the times the sarge was still testing so repositories are set to testing and it cathes the testing version anyway...so i will have to bake sarge again...no problem but i would rahter wait |
| 23:26.22 | abrotman | itchi: yay |
| 23:26.31 | itchi | abrotman: Instruction how to ;-) http://www.linuks.mine.nu/ati/ati.txt |
| 23:27.09 | amphi | donfilipo: you can use that cd; just don't let the machine go for updates/packages until you fix sources.list |
| 23:27.32 | abrotman | itchi: that's one set |
| 23:28.07 | itchi | donfilipo: Yeah, like i have already do for some install with Sarge but Etch. While i have modify the source while the setup are running |
| 23:28.26 | donfilipo | amphi: yes i know it's not the real problem...problem is i like new women and distros |
| 23:28.48 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, i'm so happy it's up and running. I have try Google Earth ((beta)for linux) and i could not believe it :-) |
| 23:29.00 | abrotman | itchi: all that for .. google earth? |
| 23:29.03 | jelly-home | abrotman: you're not! |
| 23:29.09 | abrotman | ok |
| 23:29.11 | itchi | abrotman: So now i could play foobilliard on my own system ;-) |
| 23:29.15 | abrotman | hehe |
| 23:29.33 | jelly-home | Google Earth: better than the real thing! |
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| 23:29.59 | bmishy | im try to install the amsn in my debian but apears i got one tls problema because the amsn cant download so i installtlsmanually and config the preference windows the dir folder but sill try to downloads the tls and dont run the amsn ... someone knows how can i resolve this problema? |
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| 23:30.18 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, you need to look a bit of it http://earth.google.com/ |
| 23:30.34 | donfilipo | itchi: tell me so i can dream how many FPS in armagetron? |
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| 23:30.49 | abrotman | itchi: can't i just use google pedometer? |
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| 23:31.18 | beefcake | http://img.ircimages.com/ircimages/3/7/37ff8d39fcb4561e32a6576d15cf66d2.jpg |
| 23:31.40 | itchi | donfilipo: Yes, i go to try it again, i wanted it 5 minutes ago but i had forget the name. Thanks to remember ;-) |
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| 23:33.36 | itchi | donfilipo: 246 it show |
| 23:33.45 | bmishy | you shure anyone here have problema install the amsn because the tls? :x |
| 23:33.55 | donfilipo | itchi: great you did it! |
| 23:33.56 | sorush20 | hi guys is there a good gui process manager for linux ubuntu that has an explanation for every process and what it does? |
| 23:33.56 | itchi | abrotman: I go to take some screenshots of it so i show it to you ;-) |
| 23:34.11 | sorush20 | !dmnger |
| 23:34.27 | abrotman | itchi: of pool? |
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| 23:34.49 | itchi | abrotman: Of google earth |
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| 23:35.10 | samuel | sup all |
| 23:35.20 | abrotman | itchi: oh .. gotcha |
| 23:35.26 | samuel | anyone know of any live-cds like kanotix based on gnome? |
| 23:35.33 | samuel | has to be a live cd |
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| 23:36.45 | abrotman | samuel: ask in #ubuntu |
| 23:36.46 | amphi | itchi: yeah, it was very cool - I was admiring some rusting ships near Aralsk this morning ;) |
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| 23:37.31 | charasky | debian +samba crash |
| 23:37.38 | samuel | abrotman, i dont want to :) i know ubuntu is such a CD, but i find the hardware detection lacks if compared to knoppix/kanotix |
| 23:38.06 | abrotman | samuel: debian doesn't have a liveCD .. ask on ##linux or check lwn.net |
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| 23:38.44 | samuel | abrotman, thanks, ill try |
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| 23:39.24 | amphi | samuel: there's an *whisper* ubuntu live cd, I believe |
| 23:39.55 | samuel | amphi, hahaha, thanks, ive got it, but its not too good... :( |
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| 23:41.58 | itchi | abrotman: http://dvm.zapto.org:3334/~david/google_earth/ |
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| 23:43.45 | abrotman | itchi: looking |
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| 23:45.18 | jbrimble | hey guys. I'm in a bit of a crisis - I was originally setting up apache2 for our website, but now I have to put an e-mail server onto the same box.. where do i start? |
| 23:45.22 | JoshTriplett | samuel: http://live.debian.net/ |
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| 23:45.26 | DerJamster | itchi: what the heck is -that-? :P |
| 23:45.28 | itchi | abrotman: It's nice that there are now an (beta) version for GNU/Linux. Yeah Google rocks! |
| 23:45.28 | jbrimble | i don't even know how to link it to my domain |
| 23:45.31 | Vasistha | hmm, this is weird. after doing an install, the "deb cdrom:" line in sources.list is labeled as "unstable" (?!) |
| 23:45.45 | DerJamster | itchi: yeh :) Already played with it. |
| 23:45.46 | USmarine | jbit_, exim |
| 23:45.50 | itchi | DerJamster: Google Earth (beta (for linux)) |
| 23:45.51 | dondelelcaro | jbrimble: just figure out what mail server you want, and install it; getting it set up to receive mail for your domain is a matter of setting it as the MX server. |
| 23:45.52 | USmarine | ops |
| 23:45.54 | samuel | JoshTriplett, thanks... |
| 23:45.56 | JoshTriplett | jbrimble: You want to install and configure a mail server package; try exim4 or postfix. |
| 23:45.59 | USmarine | jbrimble, exim |
| 23:46.06 | DerJamster | itchi: I meant the structure in the last pic ;) |
| 23:46.07 | cat | :X |
| 23:46.10 | cat | hey everyone |
| 23:46.12 | JoshTriplett | jbrimble: The debconf prompts should lead you through the configuration. |
| 23:46.16 | jbrimble | how difficult is it? |
| 23:46.31 | USmarine | hey cat |
| 23:46.36 | abrotman | itchi: it's creepy |
| 23:46.41 | cat | wuz up USmarine |
| 23:46.45 | litage | why does ``taskset --cpu-list'' and ``taskset --cpu-list 0-31'' display the usage rather than listing the CPUs? |
| 23:46.48 | itchi | DerJamster: Aha 'atomium' |
| 23:47.18 | USmarine | everything's cool here, you cat ? |
| 23:47.25 | cat | here, |
| 23:47.30 | cat | just messing with my laptop |
| 23:47.43 | itchi | DerJamster: At the begin, it was build only for an exposition. But it's always there the 9 atoms |
| 23:48.13 | USmarine | cat its funny to mess around with winblows |
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| 23:48.27 | itchi | DerJamster: http://www.atomium.be/ |
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| 23:49.20 | itchi | DerJamster: Look to the photo album on the first page |
| 23:51.26 | magyar | hi all, i am looking for a simple tapebackup script/package with email capabilities |
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| 23:55.18 | concept10 | Anyone know of any CD rom diagnostic tools or apps? my cdrom acts as if it is trying to access a disc from start up. Nothing happens when I insert a disc in it. |
| 23:55.31 | mixa | hi |
| 23:55.36 | mixa | how can compression with tar |
| 23:55.49 | mixa | i want to compression azx file with tar |
| 23:55.51 | mixa | help me pls |
| 23:56.00 | itchi | !tar |
| 23:56.01 | dpkg | Extract tar: "tar xf foo.tar"; Extract tar.gz: "tar xzf foo.tar.gz"; Extract tar.bz2: "tar xjf foo.tar.bz2"; tar extraction command hard to remember? use apt-get install unp; unp foo.bar; Create tar.gz: "tar czf foo.tar.gz directory"; Create tar.bz2: "tar cjf foo.tar.bz2 directory" |
| 23:56.08 | dondelelcaro | mixa: tar doesn't do compression; you use gzip or bzip2 to do that. See what dpkg said. |
| 23:56.30 | beardy | concept10: See if you get it working after , perhaps a reboot, detach all cables and reaatach them, if not, put in another and throw the broken one in an appropriate electronics trash. |
| 23:56.49 | mixa | how can .. |
| 23:56.53 | mixa | gzip |
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| 23:57.08 | abrotman | mixa: man tar |
| 23:57.08 | DerJamster | mixa: look at the big honking message of dpkg. |
| 23:57.10 | concept10 | beardy, its a laptop |
| 23:57.30 | mixa | example command pls .. |
| 23:57.38 | resiak | dpkg gave you one |
| 23:57.39 | beardy | concept10: Same, except perhaps you have to let someone else take a look at it. |
| 23:57.49 | Coweater | mixa: it gave you example commands, i'm sure the man page does as well |
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| 23:59.07 | beardy | concept10: It stands reading all the time, with no disc in, right? |
| 23:59.10 | abrotman | mixa: man tar .. tons of examples there .. |
