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| 00:00.14 | Gnurdux | my FPS from glxgears has gone way down |
| 00:00.16 | dvs | Gnurdux: you must still be running some of stable |
| 00:00.23 | Gnurdux | is that meaningful |
| 00:00.28 | Gnurdux | dvs why do you say that? |
| 00:00.33 | stew | Gnurdux: the fact that you hae both hotplug and gnome-volume-manager installed means you are running at least some stable packages becuase those would be conflicting in testing or unstable |
| 00:00.37 | dvs | that |
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| 00:00.46 | Gnurdux | stew, its because i had a hold on udev |
| 00:00.49 | Gnurdux | which i don't anymore |
| 00:01.08 | stew | Gnurdux: which version of gnome-volume-manager do you have installed? |
| 00:01.36 | Gnurdux | stew, none now |
| 00:02.37 | stew | Gnurdux: what version of gnome-core? |
| 00:02.40 | Gnurdux | 2.14 |
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| 00:02.58 | adrakoa | hi |
| 00:03.01 | Gnurdux | im apt-getting gvm now |
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| 00:03.09 | stew | !info gnome-core testing |
| 00:03.16 | dpkg | gnome-core: (The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.12.3 (etch), Packaged size: 11 kB, Installed size: 20 kB |
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| 00:03.29 | abrotman | stew: 2.14 is half in |
| 00:03.31 | Gnurdux | The following packages will be REMOVED |
| 00:03.31 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.31 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.37 | Gnurdux | that stuff is OK right? |
| 00:03.37 | abrotman | shocker |
| 00:03.51 | Gnurdux | stew, because it said that when i told it to install gvm |
| 00:04.19 | cjaymes | what is happening with the audio multiplexing in linux? dbmix, esd, arts, or what? |
| 00:04.45 | stew | Gnurdux: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy"? |
| 00:05.15 | cjaymes | or is that going to move in the alsa layer? |
| 00:05.49 | stew | Gnurdux: libhal0 is only in stable. if you still have that install you still are running some stable packages |
| 00:06.11 | Gnurdux | stew, i dont anymore, it killed it |
| 00:06.23 | Gnurdux | http://pastebin.ca/67450 |
| 00:06.35 | dvs | Gnurdux: but the fact that it wants to install it indicates that something is pointing to stable |
| 00:06.48 | Gnurdux | dvs, it doesnt want to, it wanted to REMOVE IT |
| 00:06.55 | sortadi | someone using kde? |
| 00:07.09 | stew | Gnurdux: your apt_preferences are messed up, you do not have a default release |
| 00:07.11 | Gnurdux | dvs, rmemeber i just released udev |
| 00:07.15 | amphi | sortadi: highly unlikely |
| 00:07.29 | sortadi | how is it called this package that when you plug a usb pendrive appears on kde 5? |
| 00:07.35 | sortadi | or is it just a kde feature? |
| 00:07.51 | sortadi | kde 3.5 |
| 00:10.04 | Gnurdux | stew, what makes you say that? |
| 00:10.38 | stew | Gnurdux: the fact that you don't have any sources with the policy set > 500, 500 means "not the default release" man apt_preferences |
| 00:10.40 | Gnurdux | stew, one of the 500s is testing, 1 is testing/upgrades |
| 00:10.43 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 00:10.53 | Gnurdux | stew, i can't find my apt_preferences file |
| 00:11.19 | stew | Gnurdux: if you were really running testing you'd have testing at 990 |
| 00:11.21 | Wyzard | There's nothing wrong with not having a default release set, though |
| 00:11.31 | Wyzard | It just means you get the latest versions that apt "sees" in the archive |
| 00:11.37 | Wyzard | If you only have testing sources, you're running testing |
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| 00:12.57 | Wyzard | You only need to set a default release if you want to have newer packages available (unstable/experimental) but not have them installed by default |
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| 00:13.33 | stew | Wyzard: look at his policy, the highest is 500, which explains why he still has stable packages hanging around |
| 00:13.37 | Epilog | hi there |
| 00:13.41 | anabain | how can I remove a module created and installed with module-assistant? |
| 00:13.46 | Epilog | how do I make a backup of my data? |
| 00:13.58 | stew | anabain: "dpkg -r packagename" |
| 00:14.06 | Epilog | I keep getting errors when the data is over 4GB |
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| 00:14.36 | Wyzard | stew: Not if he has testing packages that are also at priority 500 |
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| 00:14.51 | mbishop | Epilog: which filesystem? |
| 00:14.56 | anabain | stew, that deletes *all* module-related stuff? |
| 00:14.58 | liable | anabain: m-a would have made a .deb, look in /usr/source for the name of the package |
| 00:15.12 | anabain | ok |
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| 00:15.28 | liable | err, /usr/src :) |
| 00:15.29 | Epilog | mbishop: the main fs XFS. The place to put the backup FAT32 |
| 00:15.42 | Wyzard | epictetus: FAT32 doesn't support files bigger than 4GB |
| 00:15.44 | Wyzard | argh |
| 00:15.48 | Wyzard | Epilog: ^^ |
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| 00:16.03 | abrotman | i found that out the bad way ... |
| 00:16.16 | pollywog | I am having problems with k3b and I want to blank the disk with cdrecord to find out if k3b is at fault... what is the command to use I used cdrecord -v dev=0,0,0 blank-fast |
| 00:16.25 | Epilog | Wyzard: how can I tell tar to make 1/4GB files ? |
| 00:16.29 | Epilog | split my archive |
| 00:16.43 | pipeline | Epilog: pipe tar output into split. |
| 00:17.08 | Epilog | pipeline: can I also use gzip? |
| 00:17.17 | stew | Wyzard: 500 mean "to the versions that are not installed and do not belong to the target release" if all his sources are 500, then sometihng is messed up |
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| 00:17.37 | pipeline | Epilog: Yeah. You just have to cat the files backtogether when you extract. |
| 00:17.48 | pipeline | Epilog: e.g. "cat * | tar -xzf -" |
| 00:18.19 | pollywog | btw I made cdrecord run as root but that did not help |
| 00:18.22 | Wyzard | stew: Last I checked, a normal installation doesn't have a default release specified |
| 00:18.22 | Epilog | pipeline: I'm doing a backup of my data |
| 00:18.33 | Epilog | pipeline: its over 14GB non compressed |
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| 00:18.44 | Epilog | pipeline: what is the best way? |
| 00:18.52 | abrotman | 14GB of .. what? |
| 00:19.04 | pipeline | Epilog: the best way is to take the filesystem offline, then use tar. Compress it with whatever you want. |
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| 00:19.09 | mbishop | abrotman: porn |
| 00:19.17 | pipeline | Epilog: If it's porno, the most common thing that people want to back up, it's not going to compress well anyway. |
| 00:19.21 | abrotman | mbishop: duh? |
| 00:19.21 | pollywog | scanbus gave me no useful info |
| 00:19.26 | pipeline | mbishop, abrotman : words stolen from my mouth. |
| 00:19.33 | Epilog | pipeline: its my home |
| 00:19.46 | pipeline | Epilog: As I was saying, if it's porno... |
| 00:19.47 | Wyzard | stew: The normal behavior, with no default release explicitly specified, is that apt takes the latest version that's available from any of the sources in sources.list |
| 00:19.52 | Eulex | I'd like a bigger home, not a smaller one |
| 00:20.12 | pipeline | I tried gzipping my home once; I nearly died when the bedroom lzhd itself. |
| 00:20.25 | pollywog | why would anyone backup pr0n? |
| 00:20.32 | Eulex | so much stuff everywhere :) |
| 00:20.33 | mackss | can someone tell me a good mail package to install that's easy to setup and does the job...also one that might have a web interface that could be used as well and the mail server would obviously have to work with phpBB |
| 00:20.36 | mtomczak | Hm. Has anyone been having difficulty with the latest Eclipse build in unstable? I'm getting a missing library issue... |
| 00:20.50 | pipeline | mackss: all of those things are separate pieces of software |
| 00:20.55 | pipeline | mackss: No mail server is easy to set up. |
| 00:21.08 | pipeline | mackss: Try postfix + courier IMAP/POP + squirrelmail |
| 00:21.22 | pipeline | mackss: postfix will give you a sendmail-compatible sendmail command, so PHPBB should be able to send mail directly... |
| 00:21.27 | mtomczak | "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/jre/lib/i386/pr13212.so: undefined symbol: GC_pthread_create |
| 00:21.46 | mackss | pipeline, thank you i shall look into that |
| 00:22.03 | pipeline | mtomczak: gcj sucks ass. Don't use it. (You probably just forgot either -pthreads or -lpthread |
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| 00:22.27 | azeem | mtomczak: that's from libgc |
| 00:22.57 | magyar | is there a tapebackup program for etch? |
| 00:23.12 | pipeline | magyar: tar |
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| 00:23.27 | pipeline | magyar: ("Tape ARchive") |
| 00:23.28 | yassine | hi folks |
| 00:23.39 | pipeline | magyar: tar + mt pretty much, uh, do the job. |
| 00:23.48 | mtomczak | pipeline: Hm. I'm afraid I don't know the difference between my java options in Debian... I wonder how I get that out of the way, and when I do, what I replace it with? |
| 00:23.55 | magyar | pipeline: do you know of any scripts that would run a backup and send an email? |
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| 00:24.10 | pipeline | mtomczak: You probably want the Sun J2SE. gcj is just godawful. |
| 00:24.11 | abrotman | you can write your own |
| 00:24.18 | mackss | pipeline, should i just do apt-get install postfix |
| 00:24.25 | abrotman | or use dump/restore .. and it will write to /etc/dumpdates .. or something ... IIRC |
| 00:24.29 | yassine | i have a question related to my cd burner which is claiming that cds are not empty: what can be the reason for a such problem ? |
| 00:24.30 | pipeline | magyar: You should only be running backups when the filesystem is mounted readonly... |
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| 00:25.20 | pipeline | mackss: You're going to have to do a little more research than that... running a mail server sucks dead weasels through a hose. It's a Hard Thing To Do. |
| 00:25.24 | mtomczak | pipeline: Okay, that does sound like what I want to do (I'm trying to make use of some code that was originally written on Windows against the Sun J2SE... it _ought_ not to matter, but, well, that's a lot of kool-aid to stomach ;) ) |
| 00:25.39 | pipeline | mtomczak: It does matter. A lot. You want the Sun java. |
| 00:25.44 | abrotman | mailservers are easy .. mailservers the right way is hard :) |
| 00:25.50 | pipeline | mtomczak: Aside from gcj sucking ass, it's also really, really incomplete. |
| 00:26.05 | pipeline | mtomczak: Even if it weren't slower than frozen treacle, most code simply doesn't work because the class library is missing chunks :P |
| 00:26.11 | mackss | pipeline, heh thanks but all i am asking is that is the package right? |
| 00:26.39 | mackss | pipeline, and does the webmin module make it easier to setup |
| 00:27.11 | mtomczak | That's the word on the street around here, too (sidebar: someone should really come clean our street) ;) |
| 00:27.45 | gorpon | gcj should not be included in any operating system unless the users are insane |
| 00:27.52 | pipeline | mackss: webmin is utterly worthless. |
| 00:28.02 | azeem | can you guys stop the gcj bashing now? |
| 00:28.03 | pipeline | mackss: webmin is for when you're too fucking cheap to buy something that works. |
| 00:28.13 | pipeline | azeem: No :P |
| 00:28.27 | mackss | pipeline, heh alright thanks |
| 00:28.36 | jelly-home | pipeline: what about user selfcare packages (like usermin)? |
| 00:28.40 | pipeline | mackss: I full well expect you to screw yourself :P |
| 00:28.58 | pipeline | jelly-home: I don't even know what usermin is. I DO know what webmin is: A cheap, shitty plesk knockoff riddled with holes. |
| 00:29.21 | mtomczak | Now here's the fun question: Is there a debian package for J2SE somewhere out there, or will I have to (gasp!) install manually outside of the package manager? |
| 00:30.01 | Wyzard | mtomczak: It's officially packaged in unstable, thanks to Sun's recent license change |
| 00:30.05 | pipeline | mtomczak: For sarge, you'll have to do something weird. For etch, you simply add non-free to sources.list and install it from unstable. |
| 00:30.13 | KNY | is there a way to dump what processes are using which ports? |
| 00:30.16 | Wyzard | mtomczak: In stable, see the "java-package" package |
| 00:30.29 | Wyzard | mtomczak: It builds a .deb for you (locally, on your system) from a Sun or Blackdown release tarball |
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| 00:31.19 | pipeline | KNY: netstat -t will give you TCP ports being listened to. various other netstat options will give you other information. |
| 00:31.23 | mackss | pipeline, on that note i think i'll bug a friend, who is more knowledgeable re:debian, to hold my hand through the setup |
| 00:31.28 | KNY | pipeline, thanks |
| 00:31.29 | mackss | ;-) |
| 00:31.47 | pipeline | mackss: You probably shouldn't do this at all. You do know that you can get other people to host bulletin boards for you very inexpensively, right? :P |
| 00:31.47 | mtomczak | Wyzard: Okay. I believe I'm pulling in unstable, but I don't see it on a search for "j2se." Is there a specific mirror I need to pull from? |
| 00:31.55 | pipeline | mackss: Being rooted SUCKS. |
| 00:31.56 | jelly-home | pipeline: it's the same thing but for self-care (setting up users' preferences via web - file browsing, .forward, mail filters, webmail, that sort of things) |
| 00:32.11 | pipeline | jelly-home: So you're saying it still sucks ass? :P |
| 00:32.23 | pollywog | I was able to erase a CD with NeroLinux when cdrecord and k3b failed.... any ideas on what might be wrong with cdrecord? I have it running as root |
| 00:32.48 | mackss | pipeline, yes but you can't live in total fear ;-) |
| 00:32.49 | jelly-home | pipeline: no, I'm asking if you know an app of that sort. |
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| 00:33.31 | jelly-home | mackss: he's right in one thing; webmin is badly designed and has a history of security holes. |
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| 00:34.22 | pollywog | jelly-home: but what about usermin, is that as bad as webmin? |
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| 00:35.52 | jelly-home | pollywog: I haven't taken a really good it, to be honest. It is quite similar though. |
| 00:36.19 | jelly-home | pollywog: "look at" is missing in the sentence above |
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| 00:36.38 | abrotman | !tell Magoito about root |
| 00:36.38 | jerware | hiya |
| 00:36.42 | pollywog | missing but I thought I saw it there |
| 00:36.46 | abrotman | !Phillysmite jerware |
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| 00:36.56 | jerware | :P |
| 00:37.23 | jerware | im looking for such a protocol to update text files so the contents are consistant across multiple computers. |
| 00:37.24 | jonkri | how can i start this on bootup: mdadm --monitor --mail=sysadmin --delay=300 /dev/md0 |
| 00:37.24 | Epilog | pipeline: got it. tar cvzf - --ignore-failed-read --show-omitted-dirs --totals /home/duckman | split -b 2048m -d - /mnt/mp3/Backup/home_duckman/part_ |
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| 00:37.48 | liable | jonkri: mdadm.conf? |
| 00:37.49 | jerware | such as notes |
| 00:37.57 | jerware | is there such a protocol? |
| 00:38.00 | jonkri | liable ok |
| 00:38.01 | abrotman | jerware: cvs? |
| 00:38.09 | abrotman | jerware: NIS? |
| 00:38.12 | mackss | jelly-home, i usually turn webmin on only when i want to use it |
| 00:38.13 | abrotman | svn? |
| 00:38.46 | pollywog | mackss: same here |
| 00:39.13 | jonkri | liable how would i put it in the file? i don't understand http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man5/mdadm.conf.5.php |
| 00:39.16 | mackss | pollywog, =] |
| 00:39.18 | pollywog | hey liable did you get the ALSA problem fixed? |
| 00:39.26 | jelly-home | abrotman: nis? |
| 00:39.29 | abrotman | NIS? |
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| 00:39.40 | mackss | thanks guys for all the advice...now i need to do some reading on postfix |
| 00:39.41 | jerware | NIS? |
| 00:39.43 | jerware | hmm |
| 00:39.47 | abrotman | jelly-home: depending on the files in question.. it can work |
| 00:40.02 | jerware | thanx guys, |
| 00:41.05 | jerware | can LDAP do the trick as well ? |
| 00:41.18 | jerware | i guess i should research the difference. |
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| 00:43.08 | KNY | has anyone had experience resolving a certain vsftpd issue? I get a 530 (Login incorrect) error on local users when local_enable=YES |
| 00:43.27 | KNY | I have been googling and discussing in #vsftpd all night |
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| 00:45.12 | abrotman | LIONS! |
| 00:45.18 | sscanf | nope |
| 00:45.23 | sscanf | tried everything |
| 00:45.29 | sscanf | su still isn't working |
| 00:45.47 | sscanf | (good thing sudo still does) |
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| 00:46.39 | cmatei | is there a reason for apt-proxy 1.9.33 to die while fetching a 20M file with "No space left on device" when it's obvious that that is not a problem ? |
| 00:46.41 | sscanf | anyone here with a working domain authentication under winbind/MS server 2003/Debian unstable ? |
| 00:47.01 | sscanf | if so, are you able to use 'su'? |
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| 00:47.42 | abrotman | cmatei: df -h ? |
| 00:48.19 | cmatei | 21G available, no quota. besides i can create larger files than that, as user aptproxy |
| 00:48.40 | mtomczak | Okay. So I found the j2sdk1.4 package (which is the Blackdown suite, according to the description). But the eclipse package still wants to depend on and install gcj. |
| 00:48.43 | mtomczak | Any way to wave that off? |
| 00:49.45 | abrotman | cmatei: you have one partiton ? |
| 00:50.54 | cmatei | abrotman: yes, except for /tmp which is tmpfs. does it download there ? |
| 00:51.16 | abrotman | itmight .. |
| 00:52.34 | cmatei | argh. yes, it does :) |
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| 00:54.00 | abrotman | cmatei: and it' sfull ? |
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| 00:54.18 | cmatei | abrotman: it's 16M. default vserver setup... |
| 00:54.25 | abrotman | doh! |
| 00:54.28 | cmatei | :) |
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| 00:59.35 | itchi | I have migrate this box from Sarge to Etch and get some troubles with the pkg x11-common_1%3a7.0.22_i386.deb and he tell trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package phototk. I'm without x here and with irssi |
| 01:00.06 | itchi | So that he fail an apt-get -f install wont fix it. How do i take it ? |
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| 01:01.02 | jelly-home | itchi: it there a newer version of phototk available too? |
| 01:01.07 | itchi | I have already do some Sarge->Etch but this i have nerver see |
| 01:01.13 | itchi | jelly-home: Yeah |
| 01:01.25 | jelly-home | itchi: try installing that first. |
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| 01:01.50 | itchi | jelly-home: He complain also about it. And what i have do. So i have manually download that package and have install it with dpkg |
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| 01:02.08 | nvz | I dont know what phototk is but I imagine it to be horrible.. cause tk is fugly and the photo keyword suggest that the application deals heavily with visual elements |
| 01:02.09 | itchi | jelly-home: But it's still leave there |
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| 01:02.51 | lakcaj | what about uninstalling phototk and then trying to dist-upgrade again. |
| 01:02.55 | nvz | itchi: have a look at svgatextmode, but be careful it can be dangerous |
| 01:03.12 | jelly-home | itchi: there is NO newer version of phototk. It doesn't exist in etch. |
| 01:03.18 | itchi | nvz: I think i need first get my upgrade done i guess |
| 01:03.33 | itchi | jelly-home: How do i repair it then? |
| 01:03.38 | jelly-home | itchi: if you don't need it badly, I suggest you remove it. |
| 01:04.26 | nvz | itchi: if you dont hose your video mode you can end up with a nice high res console without needing framebuffer or supported hardware... its a crude hack and is mostly trial and weap |
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| 01:04.49 | itchi | jelly-home: How i can remove it? He want that i do with that -f |
| 01:05.06 | Eulex | umh, why does xmms recommend xlibmesa-gl | libgl1? |
| 01:05.10 | itchi | jelly-home: 'apt-get -f remove phototk' not work |
| 01:05.12 | jelly-home | itchi: dpkg --remove package |
| 01:05.53 | jelly-home | optionally, report a bug on x11-common to add Conflicts: phototk |
| 01:06.10 | itchi | jelly-home: done, i do again apt-get -f install |
| 01:06.19 | jelly-home | itchi: yep |
| 01:06.26 | itchi | jelly-home: Yeah, that's the next step, reportbug |
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| 01:08.19 | itchi | jelly-home: I have wrote it down, to report that bug. In case of i forget it |
| 01:08.49 | jelly-home | itchi: do you know about "screen"? |
| 01:08.51 | itchi | jelly-home: Now he complain about 'qvwm' :-/ |
| 01:08.59 | itchi | jelly-home: Also remove it ? |
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| 01:09.46 | magyar | is there a way to playback wma files with amarok? is wma a 32 bit codec? |
| 01:09.55 | itchi | jelly-home: yep, done. But that i not understand :-/ |
| 01:10.03 | itchi | magyar: 32codecs ?? |
| 01:10.09 | jelly-home | qvwm is still available in debian. |
| 01:10.18 | magyar | itchi: amd64 |
| 01:10.36 | itchi | magyar: w32codecs is it i think. It's black an white here :-/ |
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| 01:11.18 | itchi | jelly-home: Installed: 1:1.1.12-2.1 Candidate: 1:1.1.12-4 |
| 01:11.20 | jelly-home | magyar: wma can be a number of things, so it might or might not have a native codec. |
| 01:11.35 | itchi | jelly-home: Yeah, like asf or so ? |
| 01:11.48 | itchi | jelly-home: Or was it asx ? |
| 01:12.33 | magyar | jelly-home: its a music file, i use the amd64 port of etch. MP3's play no problems but wma fails to play with amarok |
| 01:13.02 | jelly-home | itchi: is your upgrade still failing? |
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| 01:13.27 | jelly-home | magyar: probably really need 32bit windows codecs for those. |
| 01:13.34 | nvz | bah I am getting redirected to one ambiguous link after another trying to find the damnchatzilla docs.. how the hell to I simultaniously connect to another network? /connect gives me the error that only network staff can do that |
| 01:14.06 | jelly-home | magyar: I think ffmpeg (libavcodec*) can do some older wma files though. |
| 01:14.36 | itchi | jelly-home: Now opera :-/ |
| 01:14.51 | jelly-home | itchi: opera is not part of debian. |
| 01:15.14 | itchi | jelly-home: Yeah, and not ask me why i have install it :-/ |
| 01:15.17 | magyar | jelly-home: can i convert them to mp3's? |
| 01:15.25 | nvz | hmm there might be a #chatzilla on here huh?! heh |
| 01:15.51 | nvz | yeah and its empty :( |
| 01:16.25 | nvz | I hate chatzilla:P gonna try /help I guess |
| 01:16.31 | itchi | !beer jelly-home |
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| 01:17.33 | itchi | jelly-home: So there's an need to report about 'phototk' and 'qvwm' |
| 01:17.43 | itchi | jelly-home: That last i'm not sure |
| 01:18.00 | nvz | doh /server is the command..in irssi /server disconnects from current server but not in chatzilla its seems |
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| 01:19.58 | jelly-home | nvz: and what does /exit do? |
| 01:20.04 | nvz | heh |
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| 01:20.16 | nvz | I dont know, try it and see |
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| 01:20.24 | jelly-home | nvz: it just disconnects the current server tab in xchat. |
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| 01:21.02 | nvz | Disconnects from all active servers and networks, providing the reason <reason>, or the default reason if <reason> is not specified. Exits Disconnects from all active servers and networks, providing the reason <reason>, or the default reason if <reason> is not specified. Exits |
| 01:21.07 | nvz | doh |
| 01:21.13 | nvz | I hate windows :P |
| 01:21.18 | dvs | nvz: that can be arranged. ;-) |
| 01:21.31 | nvz | I keep trying to paste linux style in windows |
| 01:21.34 | anabain | I need some help with a compilation, after # make all I've run modprobe module and it says fatal, module not found. I've entered make install but then: |
| 01:21.44 | anabain | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 01:21.48 | anabain | any ideas? |
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| 01:22.07 | dvs | !wayttc anabian |
| 01:22.16 | polishkoop | I'm running debian sarge kernel 2.6 and I'm trying to get my wireless internet to work. I'm using a Linksys wireless G mo. wmp54gs. I currently have ndiswrapper installed and also the drivers. However when I do ifup wlan0 my internet connection stops working. How can I correctly configure it? |
| 01:23.03 | itchi | polishkoop: The howto on ndiswrapper are very usefull. It show you also how to configure it |
| 01:23.30 | anabain | dvs, did you want to tell me something? |
| 01:23.42 | dvs | anabain: are you trying to compile the kernel? |
| 01:23.53 | polishkoop | itchi: how can I see it? I'm a very new linux user. |
| 01:23.53 | anabain | no, a module for a wireless card |
| 01:24.10 | nvz | module-assistant? |
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| 01:25.18 | cookiecaper | How do I make aptitude stop giving me a solution? |
| 01:25.26 | cookiecaper | I don't want to do the thing it wants me to |
| 01:25.29 | itchi | polishkoop: I could not directly access it now. But i remember when i have setup my wifi the howto there are very usefull. I'm now without x and are in console here |
| 01:25.50 | itchi | polishkoop: Look on the wiki of ndiswrapper |
| 01:25.51 | nvz | stop using aptitude |
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| 01:26.09 | jelly-home | itchi: you haven't updated for a while? qvwm's /usr/X11R6 was fixed in 2005, says the changelog. |
| 01:26.16 | cookiecaper | nvz, alright, but everytime I apt-get it wants me to apt-get -f install |
| 01:26.22 | itchi | jelly-home: Weekly |
| 01:26.22 | littleball | hello, i want to allow 5060 port of the server accessable from clients with specific IPs and block others. How to? |
| 01:26.31 | nvz | cookiecaper: because something is broken |
| 01:26.43 | itchi | jelly-home: Strange :-/ |
| 01:26.47 | dvs | littleball: iptables |
| 01:26.54 | nvz | cookiecaper: you might want to quit ignoring apt(itude)s advice |
| 01:26.55 | polishkoop | itchi: alright I think that is what I was looking at to get to this point... but I'll check some more. |
| 01:27.11 | jelly-home | itchi: maybe it didn't fall down to testing in time. |
| 01:27.16 | cookiecaper | nvz, I know, it thinks so. I just have to deal with that message, there's no way to tell it that I know but don't care? |
| 01:27.18 | itchi | jelly-home: I know it's now 2 or 3 weeks i have not updated this box, but no longer |
| 01:27.20 | anabain | what does: make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. mean? |
| 01:27.31 | jelly-home | itchi: you can upgrade it first. |
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| 01:27.43 | itchi | jelly-home: I have remove it :-/ |
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| 01:28.03 | dvs | anabain: it means that "install" is not a valid compile for that make file |
| 01:28.04 | itchi | jelly-home: And looks better. I not remember what is it. If needed i install it again |
| 01:28.15 | drasko | version of kernel from debian repositories. Can this be done simply via apt-get? And what package to choose? |
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| 01:28.30 | nvz | cookiecaper: maybe you should try apt-get install windowsxp if you cannot respect the package management system :P |
| 01:28.37 | jerware | i cant find xine in apt-cache search xine |
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| 01:28.47 | anabain | dvs, but then how can I install the module compiled? By hand? |
| 01:28.59 | dvs | anabain: I don't know. I've never done it |
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| 01:29.10 | nvz | cookiecaper: the package management system doesnt work when there is inconsistancies.. these errors are asking you nicely to fix the problem and you insist on ignoring them |
| 01:29.11 | drasko | Hi all. I'd like to install new version of kernel from debian repositories. Can this be done simply via apt-get? And what package to choose? |
| 01:29.36 | itchi | polishkoop: I need to tell you that the first time i had read that wiki, i had also not good view it and had complain here to. Then a guy has say me to open my eyes and to read good that wiki. I had redo it and then i had been understand it |
| 01:29.48 | nvz | cookiecaper: if you want help here you should be more specific about what you are doing to break your system and what the errors are and be interested in solving the problem |
| 01:29.48 | dvs | drasko: Yup, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 01:29.50 | pipeline | drasko: yes and yes. If you're on sarge, look for "kernel-image" packages. If you're on etch, look for "linux-image" |
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| 01:30.15 | cookiecaper | nvz, yeah, because I need the broken thing, it's not really broken, it works fine, just it references an old version of something as a dependency, although it works fine with the new version. So I want it to stop complaining. Maybe I should just change the package by hand though. |
| 01:30.23 | cookiecaper | and reinstall |
| 01:30.25 | polishkoop | itchi: alright, I think I found something that might help. However I'm not that great with general networking knowledge anyway so this is one reason why it's giving me a lot of trouble. |
| 01:30.53 | jelly-home | cookiecaper: you should make apt happy. |
| 01:30.56 | itchi | jelly-home: Thanks for your support. Without you i still leave without x |
| 01:31.16 | jelly-home | itchi: what, x is running now? |
| 01:31.40 | itchi | polishkoop: It's the occassion to learn a bit more about it. Do not angry, everythings could be learned. It take a bit time |
| 01:31.41 | cookiecaper | jelly-home, ok, I guess I'll try to build the package by hand. Thanks guys. : ) |
| 01:32.13 | polishkoop | itchi: aiight aiight, I'll see what I can do |
| 01:32.32 | itchi | jelly-home: He is installing the whole thing. Like he is farder now. I guess it would luck. Just that i need to install en newer kernel |
| 01:33.02 | drasko | pipeline, I am using testing version. Is that etch? Also, If it is and if I go for linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 or linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 or maybe some other package? |
| 01:33.18 | itchi | drasko: Yes, Etch |
| 01:33.43 | itchi | drasko: Which architecture use you? |
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| 01:34.00 | dvs | !tell root_ about root |
| 01:34.03 | itchi | !tell root_ -about root |
| 01:34.05 | itchi | oeps |
| 01:34.05 | drasko | itchi, AMD Athlon XP processor |
| 01:34.15 | itchi | drasko: Take that k7 |
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| 01:34.25 | drasko | itchi, thanks |
| 01:34.36 | itchi | dvs: that -about are better. So you not get all that blablabla |
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| 01:34.44 | USmarine | how do you tell apt to not update certain packages ? |
| 01:34.52 | simonrvn | !tell Snakey -about root |
| 01:35.06 | simonrvn | !tell USmarine -about hold |
| 01:35.06 | itchi | heheee many gods here :-) |
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| 01:35.13 | abrotman | simonrvn! |
| 01:35.15 | jelly-home | simonrvn: hm, no more "root has landed" message? |
| 01:35.18 | simonrvn | hi :) |
| 01:35.20 | abrotman | jelly-home: long gone |
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| 01:35.31 | simonrvn | not in-channel anyway |
| 01:35.33 | dvs | simonrvn: decided to leave OFTC did we? ;-) |
| 01:36.06 | simonrvn | oh, i'm there, just happen to be on more channels here. i won't comment on the decision ;) |
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| 01:37.14 | itchi | jelly-home: Another one here ... |
| 01:37.32 | itchi | jelly-home: kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-1_all.deb |
| 01:37.41 | fantomas | What program can do tcp/echo ping? |
| 01:38.15 | magyar | amavisd-new anyone? |
| 01:38.18 | abrotman | simonrvn: comment on the decision? |
| 01:38.30 | mbishop | fantomas: there is no tcp "echo" |
| 01:38.44 | nvz | I need to find my brother a decent newbie friendly freeware irc client for winxp before I leave here. hes looking for help with games..I've been teaching him about game modding with the C&C series of games since they are some of the easiest to mod for beginners.. I found one gamer server but chatzilla isnt really newbie firendly I've been on irc over a decade and dont like it :P |
| 01:38.44 | jelly-home | itchi: sorry, I'm going to bed, work tomorrow. |
| 01:38.51 | mbishop | fantomas: you can use nmap to ping hosts with syn packets, or ARP or other silly tricks |
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| 01:39.03 | fantomas | mbishop: I mean tcp/echo 7 |
| 01:39.30 | jelly-home | mbishop: grep echo /etc/services says there is. I also know of one (1) app. that actually uses it. |
| 01:39.45 | pipeline | nvz: xchat, silly |
| 01:39.54 | itchi | jelly-home: Sleep very well ;-) |
| 01:39.54 | nvz | xchat isnt free on windows anymore |
| 01:40.07 | jelly-home | pipeline: xchat for win is shareware, innit? |
| 01:40.07 | dvs | nvz: Really? That's stupid |
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| 01:40.30 | nvz | I am looking for something that has pointy-clicky type stuff so he doesnt have to learn all the commands right off the bat. |
| 01:40.34 | simonrvn | it's free if you can build it |
| 01:40.36 | mbishop | jelly-home fantomas oh you mean the service echo, yeah, not sure |
| 01:40.39 | pipeline | jelly-home: There are free builds. |
| 01:40.40 | Seb | nvz: mirc :> |
| 01:40.49 | simonrvn | !kill Seb |
| 01:40.54 | dvs | doh! |
| 01:40.55 | simonrvn | ;p |
| 01:40.56 | gavagai | mirc is not freeware |
| 01:40.57 | nvz | I hate to recommend mirc to my little brother |
| 01:40.59 | dvs | what a way to go |
| 01:41.00 | Seb | hehehe |
| 01:41.04 | mbishop | nvz: emacs with erc :D |
| 01:41.18 | simonrvn | another comedian eh? |
| 01:41.20 | nvz | its the only thing I can think of though |
| 01:41.22 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 01:41.59 | jelly-home | nvz: cygwin/x + xchat <evil grin> |
| 01:42.08 | Seb | see, you know eventually it's gonna be MIRC ;) |
| 01:42.39 | nvz | he's only 13 .. starting out on mirc might be a bad influence on him at such an influential age |
| 01:42.39 | mbishop | there are free builds of xchat |
| 01:42.39 | mbishop | like silverx or whatever |
| 01:42.39 | abrotman | !xchat |
| 01:42.39 | dpkg | it has been said that xchat is a nifty irc client that has gnome and transperancy and panel and shaded transperancy and scripting and other cool stuff, or broken because it eats private /msg at least half the time, or doesnt eat /msg at all for some people, or ask me about irc for some more clients, or for win32 xchat : http://www.silverex.org/download/ |
| 01:42.39 | simonrvn | knoppix + wine in safe mode + mirc ;p |
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| 01:42.39 | mbishop | if you're into that kind of thing |
| 01:42.45 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 01:43.23 | abrotman | nvz: check the silverx url .. |
| 01:43.41 | mtomczak | Alright. After much wailing and gnashing of teeth (actually, just downloading and unzipping the tar from the eclipse.org site), I finally have eclipse working again! |
| 01:43.43 | simonrvn | BTW, since when are the bots voiced? |
| 01:43.44 | nvz | well since I am referring him to irc to meet gamers in the interest of learning game modding he really should be on windows not knoppix :P |
| 01:44.00 | nvz | abrotman: I d/l that already gonna try it |
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| 01:44.45 | mtomczak | Now, random question: eclipse seems to be decently self-contained inside its own directory. What is the best place to put it in my system for all my users to reach it (without tripping over some other package down the road)? |
| 01:45.02 | abrotman | /usr/local/eclipse/ ? |
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| 01:45.46 | mtomczak | Sounds good. I just have no idea what the standard is... it seems that every flavor of UNIX I touch wants to do something different in this regard. |
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| 01:46.27 | nvz | I already showed him how to browse the EA/westwood mix files and extract things.. and how to modify config files to effect the behavior of the game engines but he needs to meet other people and be more resourceful on his own |
| 01:47.39 | itchi | I migrate from Stable to Etch and have get some erros. No i leave on dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-1_all.deb |
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| 01:47.50 | nvz | well I gotta get going I guess. that xchat thing doesnt look promising.. damn spyware thing detected some crap and it gives errors about no windows disc when you start xchat *shrug* |
| 01:47.55 | polishkoop | itchi: it works. Thank you for telling me "open my eyes" |
| 01:48.01 | itchi | Im still without x here |
| 01:48.12 | abrotman | use something other than kde ? |
| 01:48.19 | itchi | polishkoop: I have tell you what people have tell me and what have help als to ;-) |
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| 01:49.03 | polishkoop | itchi: I'm gonna have to read about what each thing i typed in means though. I want to understand it. But thanks man. |
| 01:49.04 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, i use fluxbox most time. But some time i want to show to people how beautifull and how better kde are than M$ |
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| 01:49.28 | abrotman | itchi: apt-get install kdelibs .. what does it say? |
| 01:49.38 | itchi | polishkoop: Yeah, i had also to learn about it. Like i was also without some knowledges of it. |
| 01:49.39 | abrotman | where's cheal who knows all the stupid kde things :) |
| 01:50.09 | itchi | abrotman: He tell me that i need to do apt-get -f install |
| 01:50.11 | polishkoop | itchi: nice, well thanks and have a good night |
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| 01:50.18 | abrotman | itchi: so do it |
| 01:50.25 | itchi | polishkoop: Good morning ;-) |
| 01:50.31 | polishkoop | itchi: wow where do you live? |
| 01:50.37 | itchi | polishkoop: 03:51 am here |
| 01:50.46 | itchi | polishkoop: Belgium |
| 01:51.14 | polishkoop | itchi: nice. Well good mornin and have a good sleep whenever you manage to |
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| 01:51.28 | dvs | itchi: send waffles! |
| 01:51.30 | itchi | polishkoop: When it's solved here ;-) |
| 01:51.52 | itchi | dvs: I can not access my translator :-( |
| 01:51.53 | xxyyzz | I read the Debian doco, and I get the impression that to boot (most) computers with the i386 architecture off a CD you just hold down the 'delete' key during startup. Is that right? |
| 01:52.11 | netstar | no |
| 01:52.21 | itchi | dvs: What mean waffles? |
| 01:52.38 | xxyyzz | netstar, what else do you have to do? |
| 01:52.48 | dvs | itchi: I don't know how to say it in "Belgian". |
| 01:52.56 | abrotman | xxyyzz: wtf .. where the heck did you read that? |
| 01:52.57 | netstar | enable the option and boot order in your BIOS config |
| 01:52.57 | itchi | abrotman: I still leave with the error : dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-1_all.deb |
| 01:53.03 | abrotman | paste the errors |
| 01:53.04 | abrotman | !paste |
| 01:53.05 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 01:53.15 | itchi | abrotman: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/services/mmsu.protocol', which is also in package kplayer |
| 01:53.18 | xxyyzz | abrotman, I will find it, 2 seconds sorry |
| 01:53.31 | itchi | dvs: ;-) |
| 01:53.36 | abrotman | !tell itchi about overwrite |
| 01:53.51 | itchi | dvs: In Belgium we talk French, Dutch and German |
| 01:54.12 | itchi | dvs: 3 official languages |
| 01:54.40 | dvs | itchi: gaufres? |
| 01:54.53 | itchi | dvs: Yeah :-) |
| 01:55.13 | dvs | itchi: send those! |
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| 01:55.35 | corfe | my sensible-editor became some editor I've never seen! How do I change it back to vim? |
| 01:55.38 | itchi | dvs: Des gaufres de Liege? You know. It looks that it very know in other countries |
| 01:56.15 | dvs | itchi: yup. that's why I said it |
| 01:56.24 | unstable | If I have an irc server on one ip, and the irc server is going down(and I have 80 people connected)...How can I have it so when they disconnect...if they try to reconnect they are routed to another ip. |
| 01:56.25 | simonrvn | cork waffles? eeew ;p |
| 01:56.30 | unstable | They are connected to an ip, no domains involved here. |
| 01:56.30 | simonrvn | j/k |
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| 01:57.35 | simonrvn | i think i had some when i was in brussels many years ago. i know i've had some here, made by a belge. good stuff |
| 01:57.45 | itchi | dvs: ;-) |
| 01:58.06 | corfe | please, anyone? Changing sensible-editor? |
| 01:58.22 | unstable | Can I just use iptables to foward the port to another ip? |
| 01:58.23 | unstable | or something |
| 01:58.26 | xxyyzz | Oh okay, so holding 'delete' takes you to the BIOS? |
| 01:58.31 | unstable | Or setup a proxy? |
| 01:58.32 | nekostar | pcbsd here i cum |
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| 01:58.52 | bluefox83 | how do i find out where my usb mic is mounted? |
| 01:59.39 | netstar | lsusb microphones aren't mounted |
| 01:59.57 | bluefox83 | ok..so where do i point a program to look for my usb mic? |
| 02:00.04 | unstable | abrotman: Is this possible to route attempt to connect to one ip, to another? |
| 02:00.13 | abrotman | sure |
| 02:00.23 | abrotman | !tell unstable about iptables |
| 02:00.48 | netstar | bluefox83: you need drivers first, assuming they exist, you would probably run alsamixer as it'll probably be an ALSA device. |
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| 02:00.53 | itchi | abrotman: So i need to force the install? |
| 02:00.57 | abrotman | sure |
| 02:01.09 | itchi | abrotman: ok, try now |
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| 02:01.41 | jonkri | why doesn't the clearlooks theme work!? i'm going crazy here. no window borders, no controls. i installed gtk2-engines-clearlooks |
| 02:01.43 | bluefox83 | netstar, gnomemeeting shows it in a list of possible devices..but skype just expects it to be in /dev/dsp (works fine in gnomemeeting, but no one seems to use it..) |
| 02:02.12 | abrotman | itchi: try what? |
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| 02:02.28 | dilsin- | !help |
| 02:02.31 | itchi | abrotman: To force the install?? |
| 02:02.31 | jonkri | this is stable goddamnit, i shouldn't have these kinds of problems |
| 02:02.38 | abrotman | sure |
| 02:02.46 | dilsin- | how i install apt? |
| 02:03.17 | simonrvn | it should already be there ... |
| 02:03.22 | itchi | dilsin-: You need the debian refereces '/msg dpkg grounding' and '/msg dpkg ref' |
| 02:03.29 | dvs | dilsin-: it should already be installed |
| 02:03.54 | dilsin- | bash: apt: command not found |
| 02:03.55 | dilsin- | :S |
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| 02:04.07 | simonrvn | that's not a command |
| 02:04.15 | simonrvn | man apt for the commands |
| 02:04.25 | Divine07 | is there a way to autodetect a video card in debian/ |
| 02:04.39 | drasko | hi all. How come: alsactl version 1.0.11, but ALSA lib alsa-lib-1.0.8/src/pcm/pcm_dmix.c:1192:(_snd_pcm_dmix_open) Unknown field ipc_gid. I mean alsa-lib-1.0.8... Should it not be 1.0.11. How to update this? |
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| 02:05.07 | itchi | abrotman: Is it 'dpkg --force-overwrite install kdelibs-data' <- no work, i miss somethings |
| 02:05.22 | abrotman | yeah .. the package name |
| 02:05.23 | simonrvn | itchi: the .deb file, not package name |
| 02:05.28 | netstar | Divine07: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 02:05.43 | jonkri | ......... |
| 02:05.44 | abrotman | itchi: maybe you should actually read what dpkg said |
| 02:06.39 | itchi | He tell dpkg: need an action option |
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| 02:06.54 | itchi | It's not dpkg --force-overwrite install kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-1_all.deb ?? |
| 02:07.19 | abrotman | dude |
| 02:07.25 | abrotman | !tell itchi about overwrite |
| 02:07.30 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, i miss somethings |
| 02:08.19 | abrotman | itchi: i noticed :) |
| 02:08.40 | simonrvn | apt-get and dpkg don't work the same way. hopefully you noticed this fact |
| 02:09.40 | itchi | simonrvn, abrotman : Yes, i know the diffs. It's because i try every kung-fu command :-/ |
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| 02:09.55 | abrotman | bash: kung-fu: command not found |
| 02:10.09 | itchi | abrotman: hehe |
| 02:10.33 | itchi | So it's not apt-get -o --force-overwrite install kdelibs-data |
| 02:10.54 | abrotman | itchi: i'm going to smack you .. READ WHAT DPKG SAID |
| 02:11.02 | stephon | I just upgraded to kernel-2.6 but im unaware of how to configure my xserver to work with my kernel. Any Suggestions ? |
| 02:11.09 | unstable | I'm trying to umount /dev/hda4, how can I tell what is stopping it? |
| 02:11.13 | unstable | the device is in use |
| 02:11.13 | simonrvn | i'm afraid that you don't, since you used apt-get commands with dpkg. i'm not trying to be confrontational, just that you aren't being very honest, as it seems to me |
| 02:11.18 | abrotman | unstable: fuser / lsof |
| 02:12.34 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, sorry. I get here to big fonts here without X :-/ I not view clearly how it must. |
| 02:12.47 | abrotman | uh .. ok |
| 02:12.51 | abrotman | simonrvn: fix my damn mac |
| 02:12.53 | itchi | abrotman: Some things are messed |
| 02:13.08 | simonrvn | fix it yourself ;) |
| 02:13.14 | abrotman | simonrvn: it's apple's fault :) |
| 02:13.32 | simonrvn | s,apple,^cr, |
| 02:14.08 | abrotman | yeah .. pretty much |
| 02:14.16 | abrotman | runs linux fine .. they sent me the wrong OSX CDs |
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| 02:14.25 | simonrvn | doh |
| 02:14.38 | simonrvn | tell them to send the right ones |
| 02:14.52 | simonrvn | return those |
| 02:15.09 | Divine07 | how does one kill gnome? |
| 02:15.24 | itchi | arg, an ssh ?? |
| 02:15.58 | abrotman | simonrvn: i'm not fucking returning them .. they're the idiots who can't figure out thier own hardware/software |
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| 02:20.36 | Sivik | how do i go about creating a file via initramfs |
| 02:21.12 | stew | Sivik: are you compiling a kernel yourself or installing one via apt-get? |
| 02:21.23 | Sivik | compiling a kernel myself |
| 02:21.27 | Sivik | 2.6.17 |
| 02:21.32 | Sivik | since i can't seem to find it in any repos |
| 02:21.38 | kepht | in coreutils, what is '/usr/bin/[' ? |
| 02:21.44 | stew | Sivik: just pass the --initrd option to make-kpkg ; /msg dpkg kp |
| 02:22.05 | Sivik | stew: but what if i have already ran the make-kpkg |
| 02:22.18 | stew | kepht: man \[ |
| 02:22.34 | kepht | oh |
| 02:22.49 | stew | Sivik: man mkinitramfs |
| 02:22.50 | Sivik | stew: is there a way to make it once i have already installed the kernel? |
| 02:22.59 | Sivik | stew: i don't understand how to do that, i have read it 3 times |
| 02:23.10 | Sivik | stew: what would my command line commands look like |
| 02:23.22 | Sivik | stew: i need some sort of example to help it make sense |
| 02:24.16 | unstable | If I change partitions with fdisk do I need to reboot to mkfs stuff? |
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| 02:24.24 | stew | mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-$version $version ; where $version is the version of the kernel |
| 02:25.35 | itchi | abrotman: I still not unstand. So i look with reportbug. To try to find an bug of kdevelop3-data and to get an special -o to install?? |
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| 02:25.37 | Sivik | stew: cannot find /lib/modules/initrd-2.6.17 |
| 02:25.58 | abrotman | itchi: ignore the reportbug .. just install the package |
| 02:26.00 | stew | Sivik: can you show me the exact command you typed? |
| 02:26.05 | abrotman | !tell itchi about overwrite |
| 02:26.19 | itchi | abrotman: I'm lost, i not know what i need to do :/ |
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| 02:26.27 | Sivik | sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-2.6.17 initrd-2.6.17 |
| 02:26.28 | littleball | i want to block traffic to port 5060 from any IPs except 192.168.1.10. And does the following iptables works? |
| 02:26.37 | abrotman | itchi: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <packagename> |
| 02:26.50 | littleball | iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 5060 -j DROP |
| 02:27.12 | itchi | abrotman: aaha, -o DPkg::Options::="-.... |
| 02:27.14 | littleball | iptables -I INPUT -s 192.168.1.10 -p udp -m udp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT |
| 02:27.23 | abrotman | itchi: DPKG TOLD YOU THAT .. |
| 02:27.24 | amphi | littleball: wrong order |
| 02:27.37 | Sivik | stew: sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd-2.6.17 initrd-2.6.17 |
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| 02:27.51 | amphi | littleball: IMHO, policy should be drop, and you just specify the ACCEPT line |
| 02:27.56 | abrotman | itchi: you really need to learn how to read |
| 02:27.58 | itchi | abrotman: Yes, sorry, i have an little crap trouble with the fonts :-/ |
| 02:28.16 | itchi | abrotman: Sorry, my fonts are to to big |
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| 02:28.21 | abrotman | itchi: you were able to read it when i typed it .. you're able to read it when dpkg types it |
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| 02:28.47 | itchi | abrotman: I think i get an trouble with aliasing of fonts |
| 02:29.01 | Sivik | stew: what did i do wrong? |
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| 02:29.36 | stew | Sivik: your kernel version isn't "initrd-2.6.17" maybe its 2.6.17, it should match a folder name in /lib/modules |
| 02:29.41 | Sivik | ok |
| 02:29.43 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, i not know how to tell, but here are less text, and it would be reasonable to read. I miss some parts of text. I need to finish this install i guess |
| 02:30.04 | itchi | abrotman: Te fonts size are at least 36 of height |
| 02:30.11 | Sivik | stew: thanks |
| 02:30.18 | littleball | i want to block traffic to port 5060 from any IPs except 192.168.1.10. And does the following iptables works? |
| 02:30.20 | littleball | iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 5060 -j DROP |
| 02:30.22 | littleball | iptables -I INPUT -s 192.168.1.10 -p udp -m udp --dport 5060 -j ACCEPT |
| 02:30.27 | abrotman | littleball: #iptables |
| 02:30.32 | Sivik | littleball, don't copy mulity lines, use pastebin |
| 02:31.03 | itchi | abrotman: on the right size there are some characters out, and messed to the left |
| 02:31.03 | Sivik | stew: it worked that time |
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| 02:31.38 | heatsink | I was having a problem with my scanner because the scanner daemon was writing /var/run/hpssd.port but scanimage was trying to read /var/run/hplip/hpssd.port. I worked around the problem by adding a symlink from one to the other. |
| 02:31.51 | heatsink | Should I file a bug report, and if so, which package should I file it on? |
| 02:32.27 | Elly | hey guys, how do I switch from stable to unstable? |
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| 02:32.39 | itchi | Elly: Try first Testing ?? |
| 02:32.55 | Elly | well |
| 02:33.03 | Elly | how do I switch to testing then? |
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| 02:34.11 | itchi | !tell Elly -about sarge->etch |
| 02:34.39 | itchi | It's looks that if wider that x characters, i mess it :-/ |
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| 02:35.00 | Serial | Hello |
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| 02:35.25 | jjazz | ls |
| 02:35.33 | abrotman | wrong window |
| 02:35.54 | jjazz | abrotman: Tell me what's you're looking at. I'd like it in color, please. |
| 02:36.24 | abrotman | <jjazz> abrotman: Tell me what's you're looking at. I'd like it in color, please. |
| 02:36.30 | abrotman | that's what i'm looking at :) |
| 02:37.49 | jjazz | abrotman: Heh. |
| 02:38.49 | abrotman | jjazz: eh .. wouldn't it be easier to sleep in your office? |
| 02:39.50 | jjazz | abrotman: It would, but that would be way too easy. Fortunately, I had help. My gf graciously cheered me on as I moved the furniture. |
| 02:41.03 | abrotman | did she bring you mint juleps? |
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| 02:41.40 | jjazz | abrotman: I wish. She did bring me bourbon, though. On the rocks and in a clean glass, which really is all I ask. |
| 02:42.22 | abrotman | yeah ... that clean glass thing .. girls just don't get it |
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| 02:43.20 | jjazz | abrotman: Unfortunately, we have no decent beer here. Just a bunch of PBR somebody left here during a party. Imagine the gall of somebody bringing PBR to a home like mine! |
| 02:43.32 | abrotman | PBR? |
| 02:43.38 | abrotman | wtf .. watching nascar? |
| 02:43.38 | jjazz | Pabst Blue Ribbon |
| 02:43.43 | abrotman | i know what PBR is |
| 02:44.17 | jjazz | No nascar here, just ungrateful guests who bring me PBR and then drink my scotch. |
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| 02:44.39 | jjazz | Good thing they have so many othe rredeeming qualities. |
| 02:44.56 | abrotman | PBR? .. that's just wrong |
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| 02:45.58 | jjazz | Yeah. The stupid part is that it's somehow keeping me from buying decent beer. I'm in the store and I think "Nah, I have beer." Then I get home and refuse to drink the PBR. It's a never-ending hell. |
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| 02:46.55 | abrotman | jjazz: you could use it to clean the tub |
| 02:47.24 | jjazz | abrotman: sounds about write. It's sudsy and watery... perfect. |
| 02:47.29 | CompWizrd | abrotman: it's not fit to drink, why would one want to bath in the leftovers/ |
| 02:47.49 | abrotman | jjazz: eh .. you have homonym issues :) |
| 02:48.51 | jjazz | abrotman: I do indeed. I have a loud internal voice. And I just transcribe what I hear in my head. Homonyms aside, as long as I don't transcribe the wrong voices, it's ok. |
| 02:49.52 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:49.54 | tilrman | <jjazz> kill them. kill them all. |
| 02:51.27 | jjazz | damn. Bronson Arroyo with the complete game. He's loving those NL lineups. |
| 02:51.50 | abrotman | jjazz: i'd like to point out again ... BAD TRADE! |
| 02:52.04 | abrotman | jjazz: and he started NL .. and they let him go |
| 02:53.17 | jjazz | abrotman: If WMP pans out, they traded excess pitching for a future star. Their struggles this season will be forgotten. If WMP doesn't pan out.. bad trade. I don't really know enough about WMP's chances to make the call, but he's young. |
| 02:53.28 | abrotman | not so excess these days :) |
| 02:53.33 | itchi | abrotman: It's looks a bit better now. The base fonts was missing |
| 02:53.39 | abrotman | yay .. i think |
| 02:53.47 | abrotman | jjazz: i don't think WMP will ever pan out |
| 02:53.51 | jjazz | abrotman: No, not so much excess. |
| 02:53.56 | jjazz | abrotman: He's young. |
| 02:54.12 | itchi | abrotman: But it's alway a bit to big, but many lesser and now with antyaliasins or so?? |
| 02:54.20 | abrotman | jjazz: and out of options |
| 02:54.26 | abrotman | jjazz: that's my major problem |
| 02:54.28 | jjazz | abrotman: ton of power. He develops an eye, learns some patience... and he'll be fine. |
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| 02:54.57 | jjazz | abrotman: If they have the patience to start him every day, he'll develop. |
| 02:55.20 | littleball | hello, how to test whether my udp port is blocked successfully? it it is TCP, i can use telnet to test. ANy tools to test udp? |
| 02:56.04 | abrotman | jjazz: they can't right now .. those OF positions are too valuable |
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| 02:56.40 | jjazz | littleball: nmap? |
| 02:57.23 | jjazz | abrotman: Yeah, I was thinking next year. Trot's time is up, right? Maybe platoon him until then. |
| 02:57.44 | abrotman | jjazz: maybe .. but we have decent outfielders in AAA too |
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| 02:58.54 | jjazz | abrotman: 1.044 OPS vs. righties. He develops a litle against lefties and he's a potent force. |
| 02:59.10 | abrotman | jjazz: oh yeah .. and he can't catch :) |
| 02:59.15 | jjazz | abrotman: But I agree losing Arroyo was painful. |
| 02:59.31 | jjazz | abrotman: OK, let that other DH go and you have room for him. |
| 02:59.48 | abrotman | jjazz: just wait .. the boss will try to sign him :) |
| 03:00.02 | abrotman | jjazz: but he'll be injured goods ... |
| 03:00.06 | jjazz | Try? he'll succeed in a heartbeat. |
| 03:00.15 | abrotman | maybe |
| 03:00.22 | jjazz | Too bad we already have too many DHs |
| 03:00.31 | jjazz | (or would if people were healthy) |
| 03:01.21 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:01.32 | jjazz | Anyway... gotta go. Cleaning lady is coming tomorrow, which means I have to clean tonight so she doesn't think we're slobs. |
| 03:01.40 | abrotman | yay! |
| 03:01.42 | abrotman | night |
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| 03:06.33 | aaronlin | Hi, I recently installed fedora. Right now I'm running debian, and apparently the fstab has not been updated since the install of my second hard disk drive. I would like to view the partitions on the second hard drive, but I don't know how. |
| 03:07.00 | unstable | aaronlin: The same on any distro of linux # "fdisk -l" |
| 03:07.10 | stew | aaronlin: try "fdisk -l" |
| 03:07.39 | aaronlin | just fdisk -l? or fdisk -l /dev/hdb |
| 03:07.59 | aaronlin | oh, ok! |
| 03:08.06 | aaronlin | I got it...I see what went wrong |
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| 03:08.17 | aaronlin | /dev/hdb was my CD drive...no wonder I couldnt' find anything on there |
| 03:09.49 | jetscreamer | cat /proc/partitions |
| 03:10.21 | jetscreamer | omg wtf is /proc/buddyinfo |
| 03:10.34 | jetscreamer | Node 0, zone DMA 465 175 29 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 |
| 03:10.34 | jetscreamer | Node 0, zone Normal 388 5977 381 6 6 0 1 1 1 1 0 |
| 03:10.43 | jetscreamer | oops |
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| 03:10.50 | Stevie | those are your buddies |
| 03:10.50 | jetscreamer | glad it wasn't long |
| 03:12.00 | aaronlin | can someone help me real quick...I'm trying to configure menu.lst now so that I can boot into another distro |
| 03:12.07 | jetscreamer | my buddy...my buddy... i take him every-whereeee that iiiii go |
| 03:12.19 | aaronlin | (now that I found the partitions :)) |
| 03:12.28 | jetscreamer | same as the others just change stuff |
| 03:12.33 | jetscreamer | cp & change |
| 03:12.48 | jetscreamer | not in the automagical section |
| 03:12.55 | jetscreamer | or it will be overwrittne |
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| 03:13.13 | jetscreamer | (don't paste in the automagical |
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| 03:14.16 | amphi | jetscreamer: it appears that buddyinfo is, inuitively enough, "Kernel memory allocator information" |
| 03:14.27 | astronut | is there any way to force gdm to log in as a specific user? |
| 03:14.31 | dirakx | /join #slec |
| 03:14.54 | astronut | from the console, sorry |
| 03:15.11 | aaronlin | I would like to paste into #flood what I have currently written in menu.lst...if someone can proofread it for me, I'd appreciate it a lot |
| 03:15.22 | axolx | hey guys, how can i get a list of files and locations installed when i install a package with `aptitude install package_name`? |
| 03:15.35 | amphi | axolx: dpkg -L <packagename> |
| 03:15.41 | astronut | axolx: dpkg -L <pkg> |
| 03:15.51 | jetscreamer | amphi: thx |
| 03:15.56 | axolx | amphi, astronut: thanks! |
| 03:15.59 | jetscreamer | astronut: yes |
| 03:16.11 | jetscreamer | astronut: oh console |
| 03:16.28 | astronut | jetscreamer: right, think remotely force a login |
| 03:16.34 | jetscreamer | astronut: you mean like edit the conffile in console, or like startx |
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| 03:16.51 | Sivik | anyone here play quake 2 |
| 03:16.59 | astronut | jetscreamer: i mean, it's sitting at log in prompt |
| 03:17.11 | astronut | log it in from an ssh connection |
| 03:17.22 | jetscreamer | beyond me |
| 03:17.38 | jetscreamer | i just know you can get gdm to start and log in user X |
| 03:17.41 | astronut | there's a kludgy way |
| 03:17.43 | astronut | ya |
| 03:17.51 | astronut | vi config file, restart it |
| 03:17.54 | astronut | but that sucks |
| 03:17.54 | jetscreamer | i mean by default |
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| 03:18.27 | astronut | jetscreamer: right |
| 03:18.31 | menko | Hi people, I have a strange problem with cups. If I just print a simple file with one word in, there is a delay of a few minutes before it starts printing. If I cancel it while the status is xx%, it prints the job as soon as I stop it! |
| 03:18.34 | astronut | set default login, restart it, unset |
| 03:18.36 | menko | http://pastebin.com/720037 log file |
| 03:18.38 | astronut | but that's a kludge |
| 03:18.40 | dserban_ | silly question :( how do I see what a user's main group is? I guess I could touch a file ... |
| 03:19.01 | astronut | dserban_: grep <user> /etc/groups |
| 03:19.07 | gavagai | dserban_, groups username |
| 03:19.14 | astronut | or that |
| 03:19.16 | gavagai | not sure what a main group is, though |
| 03:19.19 | astronut | or su - user -c id |
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| 03:20.09 | jetscreamer | astronut: if you mean what i'm thinking of, i just edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and put AutomaticLogin=jetx |
| 03:20.10 | jetscreamer | AutomaticLoginEnable=true |
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| 03:20.26 | jetscreamer | then /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 03:20.36 | astronut | jetscreamer: then change it back, ya |
| 03:20.55 | astronut | but i would love to say something like gdm -l user |
| 03:20.55 | astronut | or something |
| 03:20.55 | jetscreamer | no idea |
| 03:21.07 | aaronlin | Could someone proofread http://rafb.net/paste/results/F8aAjO65.html for me? |
| 03:21.50 | aaronlin | I'm having problems with line 2....the hard drive is /dev/hdc, and I arbitrarily put hd1,0 , although I have no reason why it couldn't be hd0,0 or hd2,0...I just guessed |
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| 03:22.01 | stoned | aardvarq, why are you asking in #debian? |
| 03:22.01 | astronut | 2 |
| 03:22.03 | amphi | aaronlin: how unwise |
| 03:22.15 | stoned | aaronlin, why are you asking in #debian? |
| 03:22.17 | astronut | aaronlin: a = 0, b=1, c=2 |
| 03:22.17 | astronut | i think |
| 03:22.18 | amphi | aaronlin: /dev/hdc is hd(0,2)to grub |
| 03:22.21 | astronut | or it's 1,2,3 |
| 03:22.27 | astronut | what amphi said |
| 03:22.46 | amphi | aaronlin: as grub's info pages make clear |
| 03:22.51 | aaronlin | amphi: thanks a lot |
| 03:22.51 | stoned | aaronlin, try #grub or #fedoracore |
| 03:22.53 | stoned | or whatever |
| 03:23.16 | aaronlin | good question...yeah, i probably shouldn't be here...I mean, I'm running debian right now, but I'm desperately trying to get on fedora |
| 03:23.21 | amphi | stoned: fedora ?? *shudder* |
| 03:23.30 | astronut | aaronlin: why? |
| 03:23.41 | amphi | aaronlin: what brought on this dreadful madness? |
| 03:23.46 | stoned | amphi, did you look at what he pasted? |
| 03:23.50 | aaronlin | lol...I was hoping the packages would be newer |
| 03:23.54 | amphi | stoned: indeed I did not ;) |
| 03:23.58 | stoned | amphi, he is trying to boot fedora |
| 03:24.28 | amphi | aaronlin: which package do you need a newer version of? |
| 03:24.31 | jetscreamer | aaronlin: if you're desperate, just boot something and chroot in |
| 03:24.55 | astronut | aaronlin: are you on sarge, etch or sid? |
| 03:25.14 | aaronlin | sarge |
| 03:25.21 | astronut | aaronlin: just upgrade to etch |
| 03:25.35 | astronut | it's an easy upgrade, and it'll have newer packages |
| 03:25.36 | aaronlin | is that 3.2 or testing |
| 03:25.39 | astronut | testing |
| 03:25.46 | amphi | aaronlin: you can get a sense of the enormity of your error by the number of people leaping up to save you ;) |
| 03:26.22 | amphi | aaronlin: or use sarge and backports for the odd things you need newer versions of |
| 03:26.55 | stoned | I am also thinking of using sarge |
| 03:27.52 | amphi | stoned: it works well on my laptop, FWIW |
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| 03:28.01 | stoned | fwiw? |
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| 03:28.12 | stoned | english please ;) |
| 03:28.14 | aaronlin | amphi: :) I often feel overwhelmed trying to use GNU/Linux as a desktop OS |
| 03:28.26 | amphi | "for what it's worth" - install bsdgames, and use wtf(6) ;) |
| 03:28.28 | RoAkSoAx | hello there!! who can help me recover my system!! |
| 03:28.39 | aaronlin | amphi: Sometimes I just want to upload photos or watch movies, etc, but stuff always takes hours to get working, if it works at all |
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| 03:29.01 | amphi | aaronlin: mplayer works perfectly here |
| 03:29.11 | amphi | aaronlin: what do you mean, upload photos? |
| 03:29.24 | aaronlin | from my digital camera |
| 03:29.32 | aaronlin | but gphoto2 doesn't support my camera, I think |
| 03:29.44 | astronut | aaronlin: what camera? |
| 03:29.48 | aaronlin | Kodak CD33 |
| 03:29.51 | astronut | dunn |
| 03:29.52 | astronut | o |
| 03:29.58 | astronut | sure it's not a plain mass storage device? |
| 03:30.04 | astronut | and i had no problems watching movies |
| 03:30.23 | astronut | add mariallat's archive to sources.list, apt-get instlal mplayer, gmplayer <file> |
| 03:30.29 | aaronlin | I dunno...gtkam didn't work... |
| 03:30.56 | astronut | aaronlin: see if they have an irc support |
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| 03:31.26 | aaronlin | but this etch thing sounds interesting |
| 03:31.27 | amphi | astronut: ugh, gmplayer |
| 03:31.35 | aaronlin | or wait |
| 03:31.37 | aaronlin | what about ubuntu |
| 03:31.42 | aaronlin | what do you think about that? Isn't it debian-based? |
| 03:31.44 | amphi | aaronlin: it's testing, so things will break from time to time |
| 03:31.49 | astronut | amphi: shush |
| 03:32.08 | astronut | aaronlin: hmm, goolge implies that the kodaks use a fucked up filesystem on the memory card |
| 03:32.11 | astronut | cards |
| 03:32.51 | amphi | aaronlin: there is a gphoto2 backport available, which might make it work |
| 03:33.09 | astronut | hmm, this one suggest it works |
| 03:33.32 | aaronlin | brb |
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| 03:34.21 | astronut | amphi: this is a diff easy share: "It would seem that the camera pops up with a different address under /proc/bus/usb each time; gtkam is able to handle that change, but digikam is not." |
| 03:34.26 | astronut | gphoto2 -L should |
| 03:34.26 | astronut | or w/e |
| 03:36.57 | amphi | astronut: cool |
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| 03:40.54 | RoAkSoAx2 | who can help me recover my system |
| 03:41.34 | amphi | RoAkSoAx2: what's wrong with it/ |
| 03:41.37 | amphi | ? |
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| 03:42.19 | fantomas | How to extract TCP data from a raw packet which tcpdump saves with -w option? |
| 03:42.36 | fantomas | I need to resend some packets wich I proviously captured with tcpdump |
| 03:43.36 | astronut | fantomas: try fping maybe |
| 03:43.39 | astronut | dunno |
| 03:44.41 | fantomas | astronut: I just need to get tcp info bits from a raw packet which is in fact ip packet |
| 03:45.38 | astronut | dunno |
| 03:46.26 | RoAkSoAx2 | amphi: i try to enter to the linux and in one part it gets stuck saying : waiting for root filesystem or seomthinglikt that |
| 03:46.45 | amphi | RoAkSoAx2: did you build a new kernel yourself? |
| 03:46.47 | RoAkSoAx2 | and after a while it says: alert /dev/hda3 does not exists |
| 03:46.51 | RoAkSoAx2 | dropin to a shell |
| 03:46.58 | RoAkSoAx2 | amphi: debian etch kernerl 2.6.15 |
| 03:47.09 | RoAkSoAx2 | it was working fine |
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| 03:47.12 | RoAkSoAx2 | until 2 days ago |
| 03:47.16 | Rebecca | RoAkSoAx: tried mounting it manually? |
| 03:47.19 | astronut | RoAkSoAx2: did you upgrade your kernel then? |
| 03:47.20 | RoAkSoAx2 | i might have change the fstab conf |
| 03:47.29 | amphi | 'might have'?? |
| 03:47.36 | Rebecca | lol |
| 03:48.01 | Rebecca | would you also _might_ have saved a copy of the unchanged fstab? |
| 03:48.10 | RoAkSoAx2 | amphi: i was mounting the ntfs partition the night before.. and i might umount the hda3 partition i dont really know |
| 03:48.11 | astronut | or remember your change? |
| 03:48.15 | RoAkSoAx2 | how to mount it manually? |
| 03:48.20 | Rebecca | man mount |
| 03:49.02 | RoAkSoAx2 | i know how to do it lol |
| 03:49.13 | RoAkSoAx2 | but i have a prompt that i think it does not have mount as a command |
| 03:49.14 | Rebecca | then why ask? |
| 03:49.35 | Rebecca | you _think_? find out then before asking |
| 03:50.11 | astronut | Rebecca: he can't get to fstab, he's in the busybox shell |
| 03:50.11 | RoAkSoAx2 | i have a promto that says busybox 1.01 |
| 03:50.20 | RoAkSoAx2 | yeah |
| 03:50.23 | RoAkSoAx2 | thats right |
| 03:50.26 | RoAkSoAx2 | i cant get tpo fstab |
| 03:50.38 | astronut | you're going to have to boot off a rescue disc |
| 03:50.41 | astronut | and edit the drive |
| 03:51.05 | Rebecca | busybox shell does not include mount? |
| 03:51.26 | astronut | Rebecca: probably not |
| 03:51.28 | Rebecca | ok |
| 03:52.37 | RoAkSoAx2 | astronut: ok cool thnks |
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| 03:55.35 | deadcat | why would anyone use busybox? |
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| 03:56.25 | zebalin4 | Hi folks. Is marillat repos down? I get an apt-get error. |
| 03:56.26 | unstable | deadcat: if you encrypt your hard disk drive? |
| 03:56.39 | dabreegster | zebalin4: Believe so, it was this morning |
| 03:56.47 | deadcat | unstable: i see,.. i dont (= |
| 03:56.48 | unstable | !tell zebalin4 about topic |
| 03:56.54 | unstable | zebalin4: works for me |
| 03:56.54 | zebalin4 | dabreegster: thanks for the info. Appreciate it. |
| 03:57.07 | dabreegster | zebalin4: I could talk to the ftp server, but something was out of place |
| 03:57.27 | zebalin4 | I get: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21] |
| 03:57.40 | unstable | zebalin4: You're using the wrong domain. |
| 03:57.40 | zebalin4 | I get this from synaptic. |
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| 03:57.44 | unstable | zebalin4: see /topic |
| 03:57.49 | unstable | !tell zebalin4 about marillat |
| 03:57.52 | zebalin4 | I've used this for months. |
| 03:57.58 | dabreegster | zebalin4: Same error. ftp://ftp.nerim.net is up though |
| 03:58.01 | unstable | And now it's changed |
| 03:58.13 | zebalin4 | changed again? |
| 03:58.17 | zebalin4 | To what now? |
| 03:58.32 | zebalin4 | He changes this every 3 months! |
| 03:58.36 | dabreegster | Ah, it did |
| 03:59.01 | RoAkSoAx2 | \/quit |
| 04:00.04 | zebalin4 | OK, what should go in source.list? (synaptic) |
| 04:00.17 | maikol | how do i get sound in mplayer |
| 04:00.49 | dabreegster | zebalin4: deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main Replace etch with appropriate release. Didn't you read the dpkg factoid? |
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| 04:01.15 | zebalin4 | dabreegster: yes, I see it now. thanks. why does this change so damn often!!! |
| 04:01.25 | dabreegster | zebalin4: Dunno |
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| 04:03.28 | zebalin4 | dabreegster: ok, I got it now. No error. Thanks a bunch. |
| 04:03.42 | sortadi | so |
| 04:03.55 | sortadi | isn't this channel going to be moved to oftc? |
| 04:04.09 | sortadi | i just messaged dpkg and it told me to fuck off |
| 04:04.20 | zebalin4 | sortadi: I think it is the developers channel tha will move. |
| 04:04.22 | amphi | sortadi: heh |
| 04:04.28 | dabreegster | The official #debian is on oftc now, but people still hang out there |
| 04:04.39 | amphi | sortadi: #debian has moved to oftc |
| 04:04.50 | sortadi | and what about this one then? |
| 04:05.02 | sortadi | couldn't that be just confusing? |
| 04:05.34 | amphi | sortadi: dreadfully |
| 04:05.53 | amphi | sortadi: you can be in both |
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| 04:07.04 | sortadi | so which will be the oficial channle? |
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| 04:07.18 | amphi | sortadi: the oftc one |
| 04:07.27 | amphi | as dabreegster said |
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| 04:27.22 | MidgetSpy | hey guys, how can I find an newer version of a package than what I get when I try apt-get install <package-name>? |
| 04:28.21 | EdLin | MidgetSpy: backports, or run etch or sid |
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| 04:29.23 | MidgetSpy | thanks, i'm reading up on backports now |
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| 04:31.28 | RoAkSoAx | i couldnt mount the root filesystem T.T |
| 04:32.28 | amphi | RoAkSoAx: why not? what was the error? |
| 04:32.48 | RoAkSoAx | amphi: fstab its ok it has no error but still cant mount root filesystem |
| 04:33.00 | RoAkSoAx | it shows this exactly begin: mounting root filesystem |
| 04:33.09 | RoAkSoAx | begin: /scripts/local-top |
| 04:33.12 | RoAkSoAx | donde |
| 04:33.13 | RoAkSoAx | done |
| 04:33.25 | RoAkSoAx | degin: waiting for root file system |
| 04:33.47 | RoAkSoAx | and trhen it takes a time until getting to thatbusybix |
| 04:34.50 | RoAkSoAx | i enter iweth a live cd modified the fstab and the menu.lst and it was all fine and still coulnd mount root file system |
| 04:35.23 | amphi | RoAkSoAx: but it mounted ok from the rescue disk? |
| 04:35.34 | RoAkSoAx | amphi: debian live cd :P |
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| 04:36.28 | RoAkSoAx | amphi: should i do it with rescue cd? |
| 04:36.40 | RoAkSoAx | amphi: i have the etch netinstall |
| 04:36.45 | RoAkSoAx | would taht work? |
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| 04:37.53 | Vasistha | RoAkSoAx: that's awfully strange |
| 04:38.39 | Vasistha | RoAkSoAx: do you have any way of posting the dmesg log, or /var/log/messages? Of course that can be difficult in this circumstance :P |
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| 04:41.14 | RoAkSoAx | Vasistha: uhmmm ill try that.. maybe mounting the root filesystem with live cd would allow me to see the logs maybe but using bussytbox dont think so |
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| 04:42.54 | RoAkSoAx | the thing is that is pretty anoying to reboot once an again cuz i have wireless and it creates an apic error on cpu0 when i install the ipw2200 module |
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| 04:45.03 | amphi | RoAkSoAx: shouldn't have so many cpus ;) |
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| 04:46.03 | RoAkSoAx | amphi: hahaha thats what it shows when i install the ipw2200 module on sarge APIC error on cpu0: 40 (40) |
| 04:46.18 | RoAkSoAx | thats y i changed to etch so that i can try installiung the module of the ipw |
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| 04:49.10 | polishkoop | I'm running debian sarge, kernel 2.6 and I have a really dumb problem: I can't figure out how to listen to an audio cd. |
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| 04:49.40 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: have u tried if u have sound? |
| 04:49.58 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: my sound works. |
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| 04:50.05 | EdLin | !u |
| 04:50.06 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 04:50.15 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: try using some of thoose programmes to listen to music |
| 04:50.17 | RoAkSoAx | then |
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| 04:51.46 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: when u install gnome u also have applications that can do that |
| 04:51.49 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: i have VLC, and it doesn't seem to be working |
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| 04:52.22 | Dwonis | EdLin: ur funny, l0l |
| 04:52.27 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: i go to open disc, and i do cdda:///dev/cdrom0@1 and it doesnt work |
| 04:52.30 | astronut | !ur |
| 04:52.30 | dpkg | Ur is the ancient Sumerian city that dominated Mesopotamia from 6000 BC to 600 BC. If you mean "you are" or "your", just say so. Also swedish for clock, and a swedish word meaning "from within". a german prefix for refering to something very old Urdu, a language based on the arabic script spoken like hindi. For debian support in urdu/hindi join #debian-ur. Urdu/punjai/hindi support ke liye #debian-ur mein tashreef le ayen. Shukrya. |
| 04:52.55 | mhall | what's crackin my friends |
| 04:53.12 | Dwonis | astronut: Sorry, I forgot that it's not Sunday anymore. |
| 04:53.21 | EdLin | mhall: we're missing dpkg's "mhallsmite" factoid. ;-) |
| 04:53.30 | Dwonis | @mhallsmite mhall |
| 04:53.35 | EdLin | !permasunday |
| 04:53.36 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
| 04:53.44 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: i dont know then those applications work fine with me |
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| 04:54.18 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: arg, I don't think it's the apps fault I just think my linux isn't configured properly or something. I'm pretty new to it. |
| 04:54.27 | mhall | EdLin: well it was removed for political reasons which coincidentally resulted in my more-or-less abandonment of this venu |
| 04:54.32 | mhall | EdLin: venue* |
| 04:54.37 | menko | Hi people, I have a strange problem with cups. If I just print a simple file with one word in, there is a delay of a few minutes before it starts printing. If I cancel it while the status is xx%, it prints the job as soon as I stop it! |
| 04:54.39 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: i've also had no luck being able to mount a cd with data on it |
| 04:54.40 | menko | http://pastebin.com/720037 log file |
| 04:54.58 | Dwonis | menko: sounds like a buffer isn't being flushed |
| 04:55.02 | mhall | menko: ok. printing in UNIX is sux. especially debian. |
| 04:55.03 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: im a newb too how did u install your sarge? |
| 04:55.06 | EdLin | mhall: welcome back :-) |
| 04:55.18 | menko | Dwonis: a buffer? |
| 04:55.24 | mhall | menko: there is this one bizarre fix which often works but I don't know why it works |
| 04:55.32 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: i just downloaded the minimal version from debian.org. There are other ways to install sarge? |
| 04:55.39 | mhall | menko: the fix is to install every imaginable printing package |
| 04:55.39 | EdLin | !tell RoAkSoAx -about u |
| 04:55.47 | Dwonis | menko: ... it's a technical detail. I don't actually know an easy way to fix it. It doesn't happen to me. |
| 04:55.51 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: u did netinstall? |
| 04:55.54 | menko | mhall: I see... |
| 04:56.05 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: i think so |
| 04:56.08 | menko | Dwonis: well, I'll try that as a last resort |
| 04:56.10 | Dwonis | menko: you could file a bug |
| 04:56.29 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: how did u install gnome? |
| 04:56.56 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: apt-get install gnome |
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| 04:57.46 | polishkoop | apt-get install gnome-core is actually what I did I think |
| 04:57.49 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: and it works fine? |
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| 04:58.09 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: yah, I've noticed a couple glitches here and there but overall it is fine for a GUI |
| 04:58.14 | mhall | dpkg: mhall? |
| 04:58.14 | dpkg | well, mhall is 10:37 < mhall> jm_: i'm an idiot; i did eval 'lesspipe' not eval `lesspipe` |
| 04:58.52 | mhall | menko: it's a terrible fix, but if you install the following and their deps, and reconfigure CUPS to use gimp print, it will probably go away |
| 04:59.33 | menko | mhall: I'm using gutenprint (gimprint) already |
| 04:59.47 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: try apt-get install x-windows-system gnome gdm |
| 04:59.49 | menko | mhall: at least I'm using a guten print driver, maybe you mean something different? |
| 04:59.57 | astronut | RoAkSoAx: no |
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| 05:00.02 | astronut | err, polishkoop not quite what he said |
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| 05:00.09 | mhall | menko: one sec and i'll explain a bit more |
| 05:00.12 | astronut | s/gnome/gnome-desktop-environment/ |
| 05:00.19 | polishkoop | why am i doing this? |
| 05:00.25 | RoAkSoAx | that way you will have everything installed |
| 05:00.32 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: why do i need everything installed |
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| 05:00.41 | menko | anyone know the command to reload the xresources config? |
| 05:00.42 | mhall | menko: well there are certain other packages you need, which getting the obvious gimp print shit fails to dep into your box |
| 05:00.48 | mhall | menko: why this is the case is unclear |
| 05:01.13 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: well im telling ya that cuz i had errors installing like u did.. os i install the xwindowsystem gnome and gdm and it worked fine |
| 05:01.17 | RoAkSoAx | noi errors |
| 05:01.48 | RoAkSoAx | how did u install sound? |
| 05:01.57 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: so that could be a reaons why my audio cd doesnt play? ALSA |
| 05:02.11 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: i don't even remember exactly |
| 05:02.19 | astronut | polishkoop: yes |
| 05:02.29 | astronut | polishkoop: CD audio has a seperate spot on mixer |
| 05:02.32 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: i guess so.. when i installed like u i had problems with apps and stuff like thtat |
| 05:02.35 | astronut | run "alsamixer" in a console and look at it |
| 05:02.48 | polishkoop | atronut: my cd is turned on and at 90% volume |
| 05:02.56 | astronut | oh |
| 05:02.58 | astronut | dunno then |
| 05:03.01 | astronut | could be a cable missing |
| 05:03.08 | astronut | inside your computer - cd player to soundcard |
| 05:03.10 | astronut | anyway, i'm out |
| 05:03.12 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: all my apps work fine, but the thing is I'm even having trouble mounting data cds |
| 05:03.21 | polishkoop | astronut: but i was able to install the os from the drive |
| 05:03.42 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: thats why i installed the way i said |
| 05:04.03 | EdLin | polishkoop: you don't need to have GNOME installed to play a CD, I'm playing one now with XMMS without problems. I reccommend workman for a dedicated CD player, even though it uses openlook widgets it is pretty easy and with the features you need. |
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| 05:04.32 | RoAkSoAx | EdLin: he says he has problme to mount data cds too |
| 05:04.35 | mhall | menko: consider enabling kernel magic sysrq key, then setting the max log level with the proper sysrq key stroke, and looking at dmesg output for odd i/o messages |
| 05:04.48 | EdLin | RoAkSoAx: and GNOME will help that, how? |
| 05:05.17 | RoAkSoAx | EdLin: im a newbie too i said that before even talkin im tellin him my experience: P |
| 05:05.25 | EdLin | polishkoop: if you're having data CD problems too, perhaps you need to use a cd cleaner. |
| 05:05.35 | mhall | menko: you probably need the following debs and their deps and possibly their suggested deps |
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| 05:05.53 | polishkoop | EdLin: how do I do that? |
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| 05:06.01 | mhall | menko: sudo apt-get install foomatic-db-gimp-print foomatic-filters-ppds gimp-print magicfilter |
| 05:06.15 | EdLin | polishkoop: buy a cd cleaner and follow the directions on the cd cleaner package |
| 05:06.18 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: how old is your cd druve |
| 05:06.37 | polishkoop | EdLin: oh oh oh i'm dual booting windows and im able to listen to my cd on it |
| 05:06.40 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: about a year |
| 05:06.44 | polishkoop | RoAkSoAx: my drive is fine |
| 05:06.49 | menko | mhall: thanks I'll try that |
| 05:07.05 | mhall | menko: magicfilter i have noticed helps a lot for me |
| 05:07.11 | EdLin | polishkoop: OK then, install workman and run that |
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| 05:07.18 | mhall | menko: it tries to avoid sending anything to GIMP print that's not truly printer ready |
| 05:07.51 | RoAkSoAx | EdLin: whats workman for? |
| 05:07.57 | mhall | menko: gimp print seems to perform better when it's sent print-ready raster or PS files, i'm not sure which gets output by magicfilter but it seems to work well on everything i gimp-printed to |
| 05:08.06 | EdLin | RoAkSoAx: its a cd player |
| 05:08.23 | EdLin | RoAkSoAx: I've never tried using vlc as one, it probably would be sub-optimal |
| 05:08.24 | mhall | menko: i must note i have not tried as many brands of printer on gimp print as i would like |
| 05:08.53 | mhall | menko: i'm planning to change this soon; i just got a job at HP and i'm going to use my corporate discount to get a postscript color laser printer |
| 05:09.13 | polishkoop | EdLin: i get an error during installation |
| 05:09.14 | RoAkSoAx | EdLin: kk... do u know how to recover the system?? i cant boot mine.. i tried with live cd to check if fstab was bad or maybe menu.lst but still wont boot |
| 05:09.17 | EdLin | mhall: congradulations |
| 05:09.34 | mhall | EdLin: thanks, it's going to be a real rollercoaster ride here at first |
| 05:09.59 | EdLin | RoAkSoAx: is there anything that happened that could have caused that? |
| 05:10.02 | mhall | EdLin: i got assigned to a behind schedule understaffed project far outside my job description and areas of interest and expertise |
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| 05:10.15 | polishkoop | EdLin: Changing the group id of the CDROM device failed. Workman uses /dev/cdrom as a link to its default device. The group of id of this device could not be set to cdrom. Thus workman may be unable to play CDs on this device because of insufficient privelages. Please, check the ownership and permissions of the device by hand. |
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| 05:10.28 | mhall | EdLin: i'm praying i survive this initiation so i can move on to topics to which i'm more suited |
| 05:11.00 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: maybe u dont have root priviliges for mounting cd |
| 05:11.05 | EdLin | polishkoop: add yourself to the cdrom group, check /dev/cdrom's link to make sure that's OK, then if you weren't in the cd group, log out and log back in |
| 05:11.30 | menko | mhall: ok thanks I'll let you know what happens when it's all downloaded |
| 05:12.18 | polishkoop | EdLin: how do i add myself to the group. And during installation i was root anyway |
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| 05:12.32 | mhall | menko: yes. as i warn people pursuing this route, you will use up one third world country's internet bandwidth for a year to get everything you need to get stuff to print right |
| 05:12.55 | mhall | menko: entire operating systems for 386-class machines take less space than the packages i seem to have to install to get debian to print |
| 05:12.55 | EdLin | polishkoop: as root, groupadd |
| 05:13.07 | sneex | polishkoop, go to manager users and groups and you will see additional tabs to add more access |
| 05:13.18 | EdLin | polishkoop: and for the device pointed to by /dev/cdrom, chgrp and possible add read permissions to hthe group |
| 05:13.40 | mhall | speaking of 386-class operating systems, i found out at work last week than you can download DOS 5.0 from MSDN |
| 05:13.49 | menko | well I hope my defective router doesn't crash |
| 05:14.13 | polishkoop | EdLin: i'm new to linux man I have no idea what's going on right now. |
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| 05:14.30 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: man addgroup |
| 05:14.40 | RoAkSoAx | polishkoop: then man chmod |
| 05:14.46 | EdLin | polishkoop: use the "man" command to access the manual so you can learn how to use the commands |
| 05:14.48 | RoAkSoAx | thats what ppl keep telling me :P |
| 05:14.56 | menko | polishkoop: and you can use groups to see which groups you're in |
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| 05:16.02 | menko | I'm meant to be doing a biology report on cigarette smoke on lungs and the treatments but all these pages don't talk anything about it :( |
| 05:17.44 | EdLin | part 2 of "Oh Well" by early Fleetwood Mac rocks! |
| 05:19.31 | mhall | EdLin: oh well |
| 05:19.33 | sneex | what would cause xorg.conf to NOT be used for X11? |
| 05:20.25 | stew | sneex: using xfree instead of xorg? |
| 05:20.47 | EdLin | mhall: once you've heard Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac do that song the phrase "Oh Well" is changed forever. ;-) |
| 05:21.03 | sneex | thats what Im thinking because dpkg --configure x-soemthing didnt set up my Dell 620 correctly -- but deleting xorg.conf did \= |
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| 05:21.49 | EdLin | mhall: now I'm listening to "Rattlesnake Shake" |
| 05:23.56 | EdLin | mhall: it's too bad Peter Green went on a never-ending acid trip, that led eventually to Fleetwood Mac becoming a surupy pop group |
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| 05:24.45 | mhall | EdLin: *sigh* |
| 05:25.08 | mhall | EdLin: i'll bet this acid came on green lithographed paper |
| 05:25.16 | mhall | EdLin: ;-) |
| 05:25.19 | EdLin | heh |
| 05:25.58 | cplx`wK | How do i add a mailbox via shell? |
| 05:26.06 | EdLin | mhall: I got it. :-) |
| 05:26.29 | mhall | EdLin: i figured as much from the hehe |
| 05:26.32 | mhall | EdLin: heh* |
| 05:26.42 | mhall | cplx`wK: hmm, mail only or shell account |
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| 05:31.47 | cplx`wK | Hi, can someone please assist.. I can login to my box via shell with root username + pass.. but I cant login to webmin with the same details..w hat am I doing wrong? |
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| 05:32.55 | EdLin | cplx`wK: for one thing, log in as user and su to root - and disable root logins for ssh. |
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| 05:33.18 | cplx`wK | yeah EdLin, done that |
| 05:33.40 | cplx`wK | EdLin: any idea why I cant login as root into webmin? |
| 05:34.09 | EdLin | !webmin |
| 05:34.10 | dpkg | hmm... webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 05:36.23 | maikol | my debian menu item is empty in gnome. is that normal? |
| 05:36.56 | EdLin | maikol: as user, update-menus |
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| 05:37.42 | maikol | EdLin, is that a command |
| 05:37.57 | EdLin | maikol: a command for the shell, yes |
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| 05:38.05 | EdLin | s/for/in |
| 05:38.06 | maikol | EdLin, command not found |
| 05:38.19 | EdLin | maikol: have you apt-getted menu? |
| 05:38.33 | maikol | EdLin, dont remember doing so |
| 05:38.55 | EdLin | maikol: OK, try that now |
| 05:39.53 | maikol | what is under the debian menu item anyway. i remember having stuff there right affter my first install. |
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| 05:40.35 | EdLin | maikol: many of your installed programs if the norm is to access them via a de/wm menu are installed there |
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| 05:42.24 | ivan` | [22:42:12] <dpkg> from memory, oftc move is fuck you, debian, for moving #debian to irc.oftc.net. FUCK OFF |
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| 05:44.35 | sneex | ? |
| 05:45.36 | maikol | EdLin, it is still empty. i guess nothing was installed there. |
| 05:46.31 | EdLin | maikol: it's a mystery to me then. It's been a very long time since I ran GNOME under Debian |
| 05:47.01 | maikol | EdLin, thats fine. i think it was an install problem on my part. what do you run now? |
| 05:47.25 | cplx`wK | EdLin: ok.. i run a domain on this box.. i wanna add a mailbox for it.. how would I go about doing so? instead of using webmin.. |
| 05:47.40 | EdLin | maikol: fvwm |
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| 05:48.18 | EdLin | maikol: you may like openbox since fvwm is pretty ugly out of the box |
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| 05:50.55 | maikol | EdLin, so i saw. some of the screenshots made by others look pretty nice though |
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| 05:51.49 | cplx`wK | EdLin: ? |
| 05:51.50 | cplx`wK | any idea |
| 05:52.13 | deadcat | openbox has some nice stuff. |
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| 05:54.24 | Pascat | Hellos >.< I've been having issues with the ALSA on my Debian system O.o It appears all sounds are getting sorta glitchy, mainly when playing videos(The sound seems to jump) and playing sounds in anything else then rhythmbox and amarok makes the music really... you know, wrong. O.o |
| 05:54.50 | dabreegster | Pascat: The first issue, with the videos, might be A/V synchronization |
| 05:55.26 | Pascat | A/V Synch? |
| 05:55.29 | Pascat | wassat? |
| 05:55.37 | dabreegster | Pascat: The second.. Hmm. Is the sound faster or slower than it should be? Your sampling rate might be off. Like, for most songs, I believe it's 44100 |
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| 05:55.56 | dabreegster | Pascat: Yes. The audio and video streams aren't being played at the right moment. One's too early. |
| 05:56.09 | dabreegster | Pascat: Some video players try to fix this with a smooth video and jerky audio |
| 05:56.35 | Pascat | Anyways I can help with those issues? |
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| 05:56.47 | dabreegster | But that's probably not it if normal music playing is messed up too. |
| 05:57.17 | dabreegster | When you play songs normally, is it faster or slower than it should be? |
| 05:58.13 | Pascat | also, my other issue is glitchy music with zsnes >.< it used to run smoother then that before O.o |
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| 05:58.47 | dabreegster | What changed between the time when it worked well and when it didn't? |
| 05:59.02 | dabreegster | The sampling rate on your soundcard might be messed up somehow. |
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| 05:59.37 | Pascat | what changed, well... mainly, the X-server update |
| 06:00.09 | dabreegster | That shouldn't really affect sound much. Could affect zsnes emulation speed. |
| 06:00.29 | _stev_ | do I get a message when one disk of raid1 fails? |
| 06:01.24 | Pascat | yes, I do believe the emulation seems to run slower now... >.< |
| 06:02.07 | dabreegster | Pascat: But how is normal music playback 'wrong'? |
| 06:02.22 | Pascat | let me load a song in xine >.< |
| 06:02.42 | Pascat | I'll tell you once I review it heh |
| 06:03.22 | dabreegster | OK |
| 06:03.28 | Pascat | uh nevermind about the music part LOL |
| 06:03.41 | dabreegster | It works fine? |
| 06:03.58 | Pascat | there's a slight difference in frenquency, but nothing to comlain about, it works fine |
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| 06:04.32 | dabreegster | OK. But that could be causing the issue. I'm unfamiliar with alsa, but try to see if your soundcard rate is 4.8 instead of 4.1 |
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| 06:04.40 | Pascat | but still, when I try opening videos in totem or gxine, sounds are glitchy |
| 06:04.55 | Pascat | How do I see that already? |
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| 06:05.04 | dabreegster | Dunno. I don't use ALSA. |
| 06:05.08 | Pascat | lol |
| 06:05.12 | Pascat | ok |
| 06:05.27 | Pascat | Thanks >.< |
| 06:05.32 | dabreegster | For the jerky sound playback in videos, you need to see if it's an a/v synch problem. I know mplayer will tell you if there is. |
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| 06:06.10 | Pascat | It does it with videos that previously didn't do it, and its an intermitant problem...like, it happens, then a few minutes later it works fine... |
| 06:06.32 | Pascat | but usually, for some reason...it happens more often when ram is more used O.o |
| 06:06.39 | normen | Pascal, could be a hardware contact problem. |
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| 06:06.50 | dabreegster | That sounds very strange. Probably just your imagination, that last bit |
| 06:06.58 | Pascat | probably yea |
| 06:07.12 | Pascat | but yeah, its an intermitant problem with videos. |
| 06:07.53 | normen | what listening hw r u using? |
| 06:08.32 | Pascat | some SiS soundcard |
| 06:08.34 | Eclipser | !u |
| 06:08.35 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 06:08.37 | Eclipser | !r |
| 06:08.38 | dpkg | r is, like, a powerful language based on S, primarily used for statistics. It is well suited for dealing with large sets of numbers in matrices and/or vectors. apt-get install r-base r-recommended r-base-html. And it's "are", not "r" |
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| 06:09.01 | normen | no, i mean is it headset or external speaker? |
| 06:09.10 | Pascat | headset |
| 06:09.42 | Pascat | I could use the lappy speakers, but they suck >.< |
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| 06:10.13 | dabreegster | Pascat: Hmmm...! Try with speakers if you get a chance. Sounds like something I've recently had to deal with. An audio splitter wire is borked, so it has to be in the right position or else one channel will be shaky |
| 06:10.17 | normen | at least they may help to isolate your problem. |
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| 06:10.49 | Pascat | I'll try with lappy speaker then O.o |
| 06:10.56 | sahithya | how can i install php5 on debian |
| 06:11.11 | sahithya | may i use aptitude install php5 |
| 06:11.17 | stoned | apt-get install php5 |
| 06:11.31 | stew | sahithya: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 06:13.09 | myren | what does /dev/urandom stand for? |
| 06:13.23 | myren | rather, does the u stand for anything |
| 06:13.27 | Pascat | ok then...apparently there's no problem O.o |
| 06:13.31 | Pascat | lol |
| 06:13.33 | Pascat | >.< |
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| 06:13.41 | Pascat | some people have too much imagination lol. |
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| 06:16.11 | sahithya | stew:$apt-get install php5 |
| 06:16.20 | sahithya | stew:Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 06:16.21 | sahithya | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 06:16.21 | sahithya | Package php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 06:16.21 | sahithya | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 06:16.21 | sahithya | is only available from another source |
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| 06:18.49 | cplx`wK | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.53 | cplx`wK | any1? |
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| 06:21.21 | nimak | no1 |
| 06:21.24 | EdLin | myren: the u probably stands for the greek letter that looks like a "u" used for "micro", as in micro-seconds |
| 06:22.14 | nimak | cplx`wK, of what do you speak? |
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| 06:22.23 | nimak | you want to run a mail server? |
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| 06:25.33 | Strayhikari | Can anyone help me with a linkage problem with ifconfig/ping |
| 06:25.57 | stew | Strayhikari: linkage? |
| 06:26.31 | stew | Strayhikari: are you compiling them? |
| 06:27.16 | Strayhikari | Ok, I'm kind of a noob (just a warning), I installed networkmanager, but it borked the system, and when I uninstalled everything and reinstalled the original dhcp client (through synaptic), ping no longer worked and I was no longer able to use renew with ifconfig |
| 06:28.48 | Strayhikari | nm, ping seems to be working now, odd, sorry to bother going to investigate further |
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| 06:29.31 | stew | Strayhikari: you might want "man interfaces" ; /msg dpkg interfaces ; /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 06:29.33 | mbn | there is no webmin in testing branch. any idea why ? |
| 06:29.44 | Strayhikari | kk, thanks stew |
| 06:30.33 | cplx`wK | nimak: i run a mail server.. with a domain |
| 06:30.34 | mackss | can someone tell me how to sync my debian box with a time server? |
| 06:30.38 | cplx`wK | all im asking is how to add a mailbox.. |
| 06:30.42 | EdLin | !tell mbn about webmin |
| 06:30.42 | cplx`wK | not setup exim/cppop |
| 06:31.08 | EdLin | mackss: apt-get install ntpdate ntp |
| 06:31.21 | stew | mbn: it was orphaned for a long time and nobody was interested in maintaining it |
| 06:31.44 | mbn | <stew> too bad. its quite handy |
| 06:32.24 | mbn | <stew> so in time it will be removed from stable too ? |
| 06:32.26 | stew | mbn: the probalem seemed to me that anyone that knew enough to maintain it knew enough to not want it. |
| 06:32.37 | stew | mbn: when etch releases, it will not be part of that release |
| 06:32.38 | cplx`wK | EdLin: can you assist me with adding a mailbox? |
| 06:32.55 | nimak | cplx`wK, hows your mailserver set up? |
| 06:32.59 | mbn | <stew> true, but i need set of tools for office workers to reduce sys admin costs. |
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| 06:33.58 | mbn | <stew> any other tools that can give easy interface to DNS / PureFTPD .... ? |
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| 06:34.31 | stew | mbn: webmin is and historically has been a very large security problem |
| 06:34.48 | stew | mbn: when you write <stew> instead of stew: it looks like you are quoting me, not addressing me |
| 06:35.07 | mbn | stew < never knew thats |
| 06:35.08 | unstable | !webmin |
| 06:35.08 | dpkg | somebody said webmin was a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 06:35.09 | stew | mbn: i don't know of other debian packages, however vhcs will give you similar stuff |
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| 06:35.41 | Piet | ...and sucks almost as much |
| 06:36.10 | Piet | check syscp |
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| 06:36.22 | mbn | I tried ISPconfig and it sucked big time |
| 06:37.15 | hs | Hello, does anybody know where ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ has moved to? |
| 06:37.25 | stew | mbn: http://idssi.enyo.de/tracker/CVE-2005-3042 http://idssi.enyo.de/tracker/CVE-2005-1177 <- two know open vulnerabilities in the webmin pacakges |
| 06:37.34 | stew | ^know^known |
| 06:38.01 | dabreegster | !tell hs about marillat |
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| 06:38.21 | dabreegster | hs: Basically http://www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 06:38.44 | hs | dabreegster: thank you :-) |
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| 06:39.29 | mbn | any one has good experience with vhcs or syscp ? |
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| 06:45.15 | Acidz0r | !ping |
| 06:45.16 | dpkg | pong |
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| 06:45.59 | dirakx | !ping |
| 06:45.59 | dpkg | pong |
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| 06:47.11 | streuner | hi lilo :-) |
| 06:48.01 | lilo | hi streuner |
| 06:48.06 | lilo | hey sneex |
| 06:48.14 | sneex | hey |
| 06:48.32 | sneex | burning the mid-night oil |
| 06:48.41 | sneex | or the 2:30am oil in my case |
| 06:48.42 | mbn | thwere is Grub too ? :) |
| 06:48.43 | sneex | lol |
| 06:49.02 | sahithya | dpkg:if i try to install php5 using apt-get install,it's telling Package php5 has no installation candidate |
| 06:49.15 | stew | sahithya: what version of debian are you running? |
| 06:49.45 | sahithya | how to see the version |
| 06:50.01 | streuner | !version |
| 06:50.02 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 06:50.09 | stew | sahithya: what does "apt-cache policy libc6" say for "Installed:"? |
| 06:51.12 | sahithya | version is 2.3.2.dsl-22 |
| 06:51.14 | streuner | (etch and sid have sometimes the same version of libc6...) |
| 06:51.47 | stew | sahithya: you are running stable, php5 isn't officially available for stable, if you really need php5 instead of php4 then you can get unofficial packages from bpo: /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 06:52.05 | sahithya | ok |
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| 07:09.25 | Wing-Zero | anyone here |
| 07:09.26 | Wing-Zero | ? |
| 07:09.29 | redblades | Me |
| 07:09.39 | Wing-Zero | hi |
| 07:09.44 | redblades | Hello |
| 07:09.47 | Wing-Zero | when u make sql files where would it save? |
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| 07:10.26 | sep | Wing-Zero, context would be nice |
| 07:10.28 | redblades | Oh... I'm sorry, I have never used sql. I mean, I've never had to. |
| 07:11.09 | Wing-Zero | i mean mysql i made a table now i cant find where it is |
| 07:11.39 | sep | Wing-Zero, you made a sql table and now you cant find it again in sql ? |
| 07:11.40 | sneex | show tables; |
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| 07:13.01 | Wing-Zero | sneex: thanks |
| 07:13.08 | Wing-Zero | how would i edit the table now |
| 07:13.09 | sneex | k |
| 07:13.28 | sneex | install phpmyadmin =) |
| 07:13.45 | Wing-Zero | well i have error: 2 when i run the sql file |
| 07:14.07 | Wing-Zero | i do have myphpadmin but i dont know how to find what the error is |
| 07:14.54 | sneex | wats the error? |
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| 07:18.15 | Wing-Zero | it just says failed eror: 2 |
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| 07:30.07 | sep | kinema, man exports, look at the flags anonuid, anongid, all_squash, ro |
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| 07:37.12 | cplx`wK | nimak |
| 07:37.15 | cplx`wK | exim/cppop |
| 07:37.18 | cplx`wK | afaik |
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| 07:40.21 | sonasks | hey, i have newest sarge netinstall cd |
| 07:40.30 | sonasks | setup is ok, everything works |
| 07:40.34 | sonasks | now i want to install X |
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| 07:40.52 | sonasks | but when i do "apt-get install x-windows-system" |
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| 07:41.16 | sonasks | it tells me that he cannot find package |
| 07:41.16 | sonasks | i have default sources in apt |
| 07:41.16 | sonasks | ad\nd made apt-get update like 10 times |
| 07:41.16 | sonasks | any ideas ? |
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| 07:41.21 | clausen | I cant get my locale setting to work, I get a error when I try to run dpkg-reconfigure: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
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| 07:41.44 | EdLin | sonasks: "x-window-system" is singular, not plural |
| 07:41.50 | streuner | clausen: apt-get install localeconf |
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| 07:43.18 | pro_admin | I need to covert stable to etch can i do it by replacing sources.list |
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| 07:43.43 | superlinux | my UPS is beeping while it's connected to power and there is power! when it beeps there should be powerdown why do you think it's so? |
| 07:43.56 | clausen | streuner, still get te error |
| 07:44.21 | streuner | clausen: did you configure locales? |
| 07:44.24 | optraz | hello everyone, is anyone here setup snmp in debian or RHEL before? can give hintss? |
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| 07:44.50 | clausen | streuner, yes with localeconf |
| 07:45.23 | streuner | clausen: show us the error(s) in paster bot (/msg dpkg paste) |
| 07:45.58 | clausen | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 07:45.59 | clausen | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| 07:45.59 | clausen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:45.59 | clausen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:47.37 | optraz | hello everyone, is anyone here setup snmp in debian or RHEL before? can give hintss? |
| 07:47.58 | sonasks_1 | which version of snmp ? |
| 07:47.59 | clausen | http://channels.debian.net/paste/2887 |
| 07:48.02 | sonasks_1 | 1, 2 or 3 ? |
| 07:48.20 | streuner | clausen: who told you to flood us? :-) |
| 07:48.31 | clausen | streuner, sorry :D |
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| 07:49.38 | optraz | sonasks_1: version does no matter. i just know how to setup it up |
| 07:49.59 | clausen | streuner, I have pasted it here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/2887 |
| 07:50.13 | [xt] | For some reason DCC transfers on IRC aren't working for me...can someone help me with that? |
| 07:50.13 | sonasks_1 | under debian do "apt-get install snmpd" |
| 07:50.35 | sonasks_1 | after installation it should start automatically |
| 07:50.55 | blondie | [xt]: #yourIrcClient |
| 07:51.02 | sonasks_1 | you can starrt it by hand by typing "/etc/init.d/snmpd start" |
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| 07:51.16 | [xt] | blondie: thanks, but it's across every one I've tried |
| 07:51.33 | blondie | probably a firewall |
| 07:51.35 | optraz | sonasks_1: after that, how ? yes i aptget but how to use it |
| 07:51.52 | sonasks_1 | is it running ? |
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| 07:51.55 | optraz | sonasks_1: how to receive the traps ? |
| 07:51.58 | streuner | clausen: dpkg-reconfigure loacales (and choose the settings for your language) |
| 07:51.59 | optraz | sonasks_1: yes it is |
| 07:52.14 | sonasks_1 | ok, what do you want to do with snmp ? |
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| 07:52.21 | sonasks_1 | why do you need it ? |
| 07:52.31 | [xt] | where are firewall settings? |
| 07:52.43 | sonasks_1 | i use snmp ONLY for cacti to monitor server via web interface |
| 07:52.45 | clausen | streuner, same error.. |
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| 07:53.04 | clausen | streuner, http://channels.debian.net/paste/2888 |
| 07:53.16 | sonasks_1 | but ytou should be also aware, that snmp i highly RISKY to use |
| 07:53.22 | sonasks_1 | at least ver. 1 and 2 |
| 07:53.25 | blondie | [xt]: is your PC behind a router? |
| 07:53.36 | [xt] | blondie: yes |
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| 07:54.03 | blondie | [xt]: is it incoming or outgoing (or both) that doesn't work? |
| 07:54.17 | sonasks_1 | by snmp you can get all the info you want from the machine and also send some signals like for example - turn off the machine |
| 07:54.29 | [xt] | both as well as chats |
| 07:54.43 | sonasks_1 | fro checking snmp on your system you can use "snmpwalk" |
| 07:54.53 | optraz | sonasks_1: waht i want is that setup snmpd on the servers that i need to monitor. there willl be a monitor server. how can i query those servers installed with snmpd ? |
| 07:55.13 | optraz | sonasks_1: do you have a link? i need quick howto |
| 07:55.26 | streuner | clausen: log out and back in. |
| 07:55.31 | optraz | sonasks_1: # snmpwalk |
| 07:55.31 | optraz | -su: snmpwalk: command not found |
| 07:55.59 | sonasks_1 | apt-get install net-snmp |
| 07:56.31 | sonasks_1 | pretty good howto here : http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/mrtg.htm |
| 07:57.05 | sonasks_1 | http://www.chinalinuxpub.com/doc/www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-hn/mrtg.htm |
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| 07:57.15 | sonasks_1 | try that |
| 07:57.20 | sonasks_1 | and take it easy |
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| 07:57.47 | sonasks_1 | also check the firewall settings, you need some udp ports open to get snmp working |
| 07:58.10 | sonasks_1 | i understand you want to make one server that will gather all the infos and stats from the others |
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| 07:58.26 | sonasks_1 | if so, on main server install CACTI - works great for me |
| 07:58.38 | sonasks_1 | and on all machines snmpd MUST be installed |
| 07:58.50 | clausen | streuner, now my file names are all wrong |
| 07:59.22 | sonasks_1 | but rememebr that snmp is NOT save in any way, what i do - i make a simple firewall for everyt machine and allow defualt snmp udp port from the master server ip |
| 07:59.26 | sonasks_1 | the rest is dropped |
| 07:59.47 | sonasks_1 | cacti works the best with snmp v.1 that is not safe at all :D |
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| 08:01.54 | jasts | ?WIN % |
| 08:03.39 | optraz | sonasks_1: thanks for advice. looking into it |
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| 08:03.51 | sonasks_1 | ok |
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| 08:08.05 | wy | any ideas about viewing CPU usage at a thread level ? I wish to see which thread of my process is using the most CPU |
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| 08:09.56 | sunday | hi how to install svn on debian |
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| 08:12.36 | pro_admin | I need to covert stable to etch can i do it by replacing sources.list |
| 08:12.42 | streuner | clausen: in which way? |
| 08:13.08 | pro_admin | sunday: apt-get install subversion |
| 08:13.09 | streuner | !tell pro_admin about stable->testing |
| 08:13.11 | clausen | streuner, my special chars are ??? sings |
| 08:13.13 | clausen | signs |
| 08:14.36 | sunday | pro_admin:error:no package found |
| 08:16.07 | optraz | sonasks_1: i tried 2 links u gave before, it does not help much |
| 08:16.15 | optraz | also, there is not net-snmpd in apt |
| 08:16.51 | optraz | sonasks_1: where is snmpwalk? i already install snmpd |
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| 08:17.28 | streuner | clausen: only in one app. or in any? |
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| 08:18.25 | litage | what humidity level should a server room be kept at? currently, my server room is at 21% humidity |
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| 08:19.24 | streuner | litage: sounds like a question for your manufactor of the server |
| 08:19.56 | clausen | streuner, in bash |
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| 08:21.24 | fek | moin |
| 08:22.11 | streuner | clausen: what dpkg 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
| 08:22.19 | streuner | s/dpkg/does/ |
| 08:22.44 | sonasks_1 | hey guys, in which debian package i can find xinit ? |
| 08:23.17 | optraz | hi all , anybody using snmp in debian/RHEL ? |
| 08:23.37 | streuner | sonasks_1: /msg dpkg search |
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| 08:23.39 | clausen | streuner, need an action option |
| 08:24.31 | streuner | clausen: type '/exec -o dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' |
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| 08:26.11 | EdLin | sonasks_1: if you're asking about what you were asking before, "x-window-system" is singular, not plural |
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| 08:28.21 | EdLin | sonasks_1: "X Windows" is incorrect usage |
| 08:30.25 | clausen | streuner, exec -o invalid option |
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| 08:31.15 | EdLin | clausen: not in the shell, in the IRC command line |
| 08:31.23 | clausen | ii libc6 2.3.5-1ubuntu12.5.10.1 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
| 08:32.22 | EdLin | clausen: /j #ubuntu |
| 08:33.32 | liable | heh |
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| 08:43.52 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 08:43.53 | dpkg | <ricky_clarkson> kinema: Always back up your data. <kinema> ricky_clarkson: interesting idea. i think i'll do that. |
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| 08:49.11 | maikol | how can i reconfigure my monitor display? for example dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. but i have xserver-xorg now |
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| 08:49.59 | USmarine | google earth keeps telling me i aint got vera sans fonts |
| 08:50.18 | maikol | .join #ubuntu |
| 08:50.18 | USmarine | doesnt any1 know a package which contains them? |
| 08:50.37 | USmarine | what that 4 me? |
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| 08:50.45 | blondie | english please |
| 08:50.46 | maikol | no, a typo |
| 08:50.56 | blondie | maikol: guess |
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| 08:51.05 | ktwilight | USmarine, most likely microsoft's ttf? |
| 08:51.24 | USmarine | it gives a link about gnome fonts |
| 08:51.29 | maikol | blondie, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt give me the options i was lookng for. i thiought maybe there was another packgae to configure |
| 08:51.39 | ktwilight | !drxx |
| 08:51.39 | dpkg | rumour has it, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org]. Run it as root, and ask about xmd5 if you changed the configuration files yourself. |
| 08:51.48 | usn_work | good morning |
| 08:51.56 | ktwilight | what are you looking for exactly maikol? |
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| 08:52.03 | ktwilight | no idea USmarine :/ |
| 08:52.13 | sonasks | what is the best way to install X on sarge r2 ? |
| 08:52.34 | maikol | ktwilight, horiz refresh rate and vert refresh rate and resolution modes |
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| 08:52.43 | liable | sonasks: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 08:53.02 | liable | maikol: drxx does that, pick medium or advanced |
| 08:53.05 | ktwilight | just manually add it maikol. it's not in xserver-xorg, i'm not sure where either. but it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 08:53.21 | maikol | alright |
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| 08:53.47 | ktwilight | liable, but it doesn't give you the option to choose medium or advance when you reconfigure :/ |
| 08:53.53 | ktwilight | at least that's what i get everytime... |
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| 08:55.44 | liable | ktwilight: hrm, your right.. when the fuck did that happen.. |
| 08:57.06 | blondie | with xorg 7 |
| 08:57.06 | blondie | ? |
| 08:57.14 | blondie | or at least recently |
| 08:57.28 | liable | must have i guess. feeling to lazy to check the changelogs though :P |
| 08:57.58 | Johnny_5 | i just installed a new sound card..... |
| 08:58.19 | Johnny_5 | how do i get sound from it? |
| 08:58.37 | Johnny_5 | is there something i need to do? |
| 08:58.45 | liable | alsaconf |
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| 08:59.14 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 08:59.16 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:59.21 | liable | you may need to blacklist the modules for the old one to. /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 09:00.37 | maikol | ktwilight, youre right. even if i cahnge the md5sums back, it still doesnt ask. didnt ask the first time either |
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| 09:02.17 | Johnny_5 | thanx |
| 09:02.26 | RvGaTe | some guy on quakenet /q'ed me telling me i was a cheese licker, and told me to fuck off in his channel... (i only messages 2 lines). then he banned me when i told him he could be a bit nicer to me... reminds me of how old the guys in quakenet are... i think the average age is 11 or something... :P |
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| 09:08.38 | ktwilight | it happens in x6.9 too, so i doubt it's xorg7 |
| 09:08.39 | maikol | everything works fine now. thanks for all the help |
| 09:08.44 | ktwilight | good good ;) |
| 09:08.55 | ktwilight | what did you have to change? resolution? or refresh? |
| 09:09.06 | ktwilight | 'cuz i have a pending problem with the refresh rate :/ |
| 09:09.26 | ktwilight | it's stuck on 60 even though i've stated all the necessary information. |
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| 09:10.00 | maikol | ktwilight, both |
| 09:10.05 | ktwilight | ah |
| 09:10.29 | ktwilight | i must be doing something wrong i guess. *puts it in pending* haha |
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| 09:13.18 | liable | hrm, no mention of it in the changelog either. |
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| 09:13.30 | beanz | Hello. Why would root logins be allowed for an sshd with PermitRootLogin set to "no"? |
| 09:13.31 | liable | ktwilight: you say it doesnt ask in 6.9 either? |
| 09:13.44 | liable | beanz: did you restart it? |
| 09:13.51 | beanz | liable: yep |
| 09:13.57 | ktwilight | yes liable. |
| 09:14.17 | ktwilight | before i upgraded to 7, i had to reconfigure my xorg many times. but it doesn't pop up. |
| 09:14.48 | liable | ktwilight: do you have 6.9 changelog? i only have 7 and cant be arsed looking up old one. |
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| 09:15.22 | liable | beanz: paste the conf file. |
| 09:16.02 | ktwilight | liable, not sure. where do i start looking? /usr/share? |
| 09:16.32 | liable | ktwilight: yeah, usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg |
| 09:16.34 | USmarine | ktwilight, it was the ttf-bitstream-vera fonts |
| 09:16.38 | USmarine | fixed my problem |
| 09:17.20 | beanz | liable: http://pastebin.com/720443 |
| 09:17.38 | ktwilight | ah so. good USmarine :) |
| 09:18.00 | ktwilight | USmarine, i've actually installed all ttf fonts, except foreign languages, just to make sure all is displaying well for me. |
| 09:18.14 | ktwilight | liable, there's a changelog.gz, how do i view it? :/ |
| 09:19.36 | Edward_TLS | jo |
| 09:19.43 | Edward_TLS | how do I tell apt to use a http proxy ? |
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| 09:20.03 | Edward_TLS | apt.conf file right... ? |
| 09:20.04 | ktwilight | you need to configure apt.conf in /etc/apt/ most likely you need to create the file. |
| 09:20.05 | ktwilight | yup |
| 09:20.19 | Edward_TLS | what must I put in it.. ? |
| 09:20.26 | Edward_TLS | ill try coogle hold on |
| 09:20.47 | liable | ktwilight: zless, zcat, or i usually use mc |
| 09:21.14 | ktwilight | Edward_TLS, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/177 |
| 09:21.19 | Edward_TLS | Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy:8080"; |
| 09:21.21 | ktwilight | oh...no wonder. cat didn't work :/ |
| 09:21.26 | ktwilight | thanks liable |
| 09:21.35 | Edward_TLS | thanks ktwilight |
| 09:21.43 | beanz | ktwilight: vi wfm |
| 09:22.14 | ktwilight | ...? |
| 09:22.25 | ktwilight | liable, i have 7's. sorry |
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| 09:22.56 | beanz | liable: any ideas? |
| 09:23.16 | liable | beanz: sorry, missed, looking.. |
| 09:23.34 | TimeRider | anyone having problems with the sarge repositories this morning? |
| 09:24.52 | USmarine | nop |
| 09:24.55 | ktwilight | liable, http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/X11R6.9.0/doc/html/RELNOTES.html shoudl be it :) |
| 09:24.59 | liable | beanz: hrm, no idea actually, its looks good. restart it again |
| 09:25.05 | azeem | TimeRider: that's likely a mirror problem, try another one |
| 09:25.17 | beanz | liable: I did :/ |
| 09:25.46 | TimeRider | thanks guys, and yeah think it is, it's getting it okay from the backup ones I have in place, was just wondering... |
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| 09:26.16 | liable | beanz: satrt it with debug on |
| 09:26.43 | beanz | liable: sshd -v?? |
| 09:27.30 | liable | beanz: erm, check the man page for the server, i dont think its -v |
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| 09:27.48 | concept10 | is there a keyboard shortcut to hiding the gnome-panel? |
| 09:28.18 | azeem | concept10: I don't think so |
| 09:28.34 | azeem | maybe there is a gconf key which autohides it unless you put the pointer over it |
| 09:28.55 | concept10 | I plan to be mouse free in two weeks |
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| 09:29.21 | azeem | concept10: gnome doesn't seem to be the best idea then |
| 09:29.53 | concept10 | why do you say that? |
| 09:30.24 | concept10 | azeem, ^^ |
| 09:30.46 | azeem | because it is mouse-oriented |
| 09:30.51 | azeem | at least somewhat |
| 09:31.01 | concept10 | whats worse on your wrists the keyboard or mouse? |
| 09:31.05 | azeem | but sure, you can also use it via keyboard, they care about accessibility |
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| 09:32.30 | azeem | concept10: a window manager like ion is optimized for keyboard usage (but beware, it might be strange) |
| 09:33.25 | liable | ktwilight: it appears as though i am to lazy to try and find the answer tonight :) |
| 09:33.36 | concept10 | azeem, i looked at that earlier briefly, im just trying to stop using the mouse. vim has me used to the keyboard again |
| 09:34.42 | azeem | concept10: that's cool, but I'm not sure why you need panel autohiding? |
| 09:34.48 | azeem | or hiding in general |
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| 09:35.12 | azeem | sarge's gnome panel seems to have an `autohide' option in its properties, but I can't get it to acutally stay applied |
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| 09:35.37 | concept10 | azeem, to bring it back in the view, but I need to start using ALT f2 instead |
| 09:36.22 | ktwilight | liable, it's ok :) it's no biggie, afterall, one is still able to configure it ;) |
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| 09:39.21 | debian | .. says: |
| 09:41.30 | broadcaster | since the last update (running testing) my touchpad is not working properly anymore. xev reports button "12" for one-finger tap and button "1" for two fingers. therefore all settings ([k|g|q]synaptics) are useles. any idea what to do? should i maybe ask the xorg people or in ##linux? |
| 09:43.39 | liable | broadcaster: check docs for synaptics driver maybe? |
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| 09:45.45 | liable | debian: how long you had that nick? |
| 09:47.21 | broadcaster | liable: hmmm... right, i have not yet tried the TapButton1...3 settings. thanx... |
| 09:48.57 | liable | docs to the rescue :) |
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| 09:50.05 | wy | need some suggestions for a profiling tool |
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| 09:58.41 | faber3 | morning everybody |
| 09:59.11 | faber3 | can i use bind to resolve shortcuts like "http//mysearchengine" locally ? |
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| 09:59.45 | fireba11 | i got a problem setting up a IPsec VPN .. last message i get is "encrypted Informational Exchange message is invalid because it is for incomplete ISAKMP SA" what does that mean ? |
| 09:59.54 | ktwilight | i would think that apache does that work faber3 |
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| 10:00.23 | broadcaster | didn't work. the problem seems to lie in kde. |
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| 10:00.54 | broadcaster | in gnome it works correctly. as far as the pad can be configured |
| 10:01.25 | broadcaster | something in kde must remap the events from Xorg's synaptics driver so that button 1 becoes 12. |
| 10:02.05 | faber3 | ktwilight: well, i want these shortcuts to work in all browsers. i dont think it is related to apache |
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| 10:03.00 | ktwilight | bind just resolves domains to the right place. i don't see how bind can relate to directories in a a system. i would have thought it's the webserver's job |
| 10:03.14 | ktwilight | but then again, i may be wrong :/ |
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| 10:03.29 | blondie | faber3: you could put things in /etc/hosts |
| 10:03.32 | faber3 | ktwilight: i am not talking about directories... |
| 10:03.37 | ktwilight | oh, my bad then :/ |
| 10:03.48 | faber3 | blondie: yes. but i want this to work throughout the whole intranet |
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| 10:04.45 | spin_ | how can disable the touchpad click? |
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| 10:05.11 | broadcaster | spin_: what for? |
| 10:05.19 | broadcaster | spin_: generally? |
| 10:05.47 | broadcaster | spin_: if you want to generally disbale tp click, run ksynaptics, gsynaptics or qsynaptics and turn of tapping. |
| 10:06.28 | spin_ | i need to disable the touch (like double clik) in my notebook |
| 10:06.49 | spin_ | is really sux for programming whit that :-( |
| 10:06.59 | spin_ | what is tapping !? |
| 10:07.19 | simon23 | hi - i just upgraded from sarge to etch. now my firefox exits shortly after excecution. ! Can anyone give me a hint how to get it usable again ?? |
| 10:07.49 | azeem | simon23: run it from a terminal and watch for error messages |
| 10:08.39 | simon23 | Speicherzugriffsfehler (sry. this is german - i dont really know how to say it in englisch.) |
| 10:08.48 | simon23 | something like memory error. |
| 10:08.51 | tarzeau | simon23: dict.leo.org |
| 10:09.02 | tarzeau | simon23: segmentation fault probably |
| 10:09.05 | broadcaster | spin_: you can also configure your touchpad to disable tapping (that is creating click events from tapping on the tp) while typing. |
| 10:09.13 | broadcaster | segfault, yes. |
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| 10:09.34 | broadcaster | the german word expresses that a process tried to access a memory location, it may not. |
| 10:09.45 | broadcaster | it may not access. |
| 10:09.53 | simon23 | tarzeau: YES ! exactly :-) how can i get rid of it ? |
| 10:10.06 | tarzeau | simon23: fix the software |
| 10:10.11 | tarzeau | simon23: your software is broken |
| 10:10.45 | simon23 | tarzeau: which software ? I just upgraded... |
| 10:10.59 | tarzeau | simon23: whatever you run and gives you that msg |
| 10:11.04 | blondie | faber3: probably ask in a bind channel |
| 10:11.26 | simon23 | its firefox - already the newest version. (newest version coming with etch= |
| 10:11.27 | simon23 | ) |
| 10:11.35 | tarzeau | i don't run testing sorry |
| 10:11.43 | tarzeau | it works for me on stable, as well as unstable |
| 10:12.22 | simon23 | i changed to testing because of ktorrent and lmms. |
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| 10:12.48 | simon23 | otherwise - konversation (irc client) ist even newer that in stable. |
| 10:13.05 | broadcaster | firefox in testing works fine (1.5.0.3) |
| 10:13.16 | simon23 | how can i fix it then ? |
| 10:13.19 | blondie | things in testing are newer than in stable? whatever next |
| 10:13.24 | broadcaster | maybe you have to restart your system, sometimes updating breaks libraries and stuff... |
| 10:13.29 | simon23 | reboot ? :-) (sounds stupid - maybe.) |
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| 10:13.42 | simon23 | okay - i was a bit late with that post. |
| 10:13.42 | azeem | simon23: do you have a lot of firefox extensions or plugins? |
| 10:13.42 | broadcaster | well, restarting X11 should be enough, but... |
| 10:13.53 | azeem | one of them might be the culprit |
| 10:13.56 | simon23 | azeem: I have no plugins jet. |
| 10:14.05 | simon23 | yet |
| 10:14.10 | azeem | simon23: also, maybe add a test user, and try to start firefox from a clean $HOME |
| 10:14.38 | simon23 | k. will do right after reboot - thanks a lot to everyone ! |
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| 10:15.51 | eren | hi iam using exim for sending my emails to a googlemail account. I suppose it is called relay mode. gmail only accepts tls connections and iam not able to set up exim using tls for the smtp connections. is there a howto? |
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| 10:16.45 | azeem | eren: /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH |
| 10:17.21 | faber3 | offtopic: has someone a raw image from a digital camera? |
| 10:17.35 | broadcaster | !tell me about hotkeys |
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| 10:18.05 | echnaton | sorry back |
| 10:18.11 | echnaton | somebody highlighted me before?! |
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| 10:18.46 | azeem | echnaton: hrm? |
| 10:18.54 | azeem | 12:09 < azeem> eren: /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH |
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| 10:19.53 | echnaton | azeem: this file is not available in my folder |
| 10:20.05 | azeem | echnaton: do you have exim3 or exim4? |
| 10:20.12 | azeem | what version of Debian are you running? |
| 10:20.18 | echnaton | testing |
| 10:20.32 | anobain | why # find / -name *rt25* outputs this: find: paths must preceed expression ? |
| 10:21.22 | azeem | echnaton: /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.gz then |
| 10:21.35 | echnaton | aha |
| 10:22.11 | liable | ! |
| 10:22.21 | echnaton | section 2.3 : SMTP-AUTH |
| 10:23.18 | sep | anobain, it thinks *rt25* is a path so do find / -name '*rt25*' |
| 10:23.33 | anobain | ok |
| 10:25.56 | k31th | Hi, im having this problem im trying to log my linux machine onto a 2003 AD domain, using this command "net join member –U adistrator" but i get this error "Segmentation fault" |
| 10:26.53 | echnaton | azeem so i added the target, username and password to /etc/exim4/passwd.client and exim will automatically use tls? |
| 10:27.15 | azeem | echnaton: read the documentation and try it, if you have problems, ask again |
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| 10:27.49 | echnaton | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.49 | azeem | check the exim4 log for hints if things don't go right |
| 10:27.50 | vopicak | i have installed debian woody and i need to recompile kernel .. where i can find it ? |
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| 10:27.55 | azeem | echnaton: well, then say that |
| 10:28.10 | azeem | vopicak: woody or sarge? |
| 10:28.18 | vopicak | woody |
| 10:28.25 | liable | vopicak: find what? |
| 10:28.32 | vopicak | find the kernel sources |
| 10:28.37 | azeem | vopicak: why did you not install sarge? |
| 10:28.41 | azeem | woody is no longer supported |
| 10:28.50 | liable | if you installed them, /usr/src |
| 10:28.51 | vopicak | cause i have woody already .. |
| 10:29.05 | tralala | vopicak: kernel.org |
| 10:29.05 | azeem | vopicak: apt-cache search kernel-source |
| 10:29.11 | vopicak | liable hm .. if i installed them ... ok. |
| 10:30.14 | vopicak | i have only first two discs of woody and i cant connect to net |
| 10:30.27 | azeem | vopicak: that's a problem then |
| 10:30.36 | vopicak | i see |
| 10:30.39 | azeem | why can't you not connect to the net? |
| 10:30.42 | liable | vopicak: apt-get search kernel-source |
| 10:30.55 | liable | vopicak: dunno is its on the second cd or not.. |
| 10:31.02 | liable | s/is/if/ |
| 10:31.18 | vopicak | azeem i havent got drivers for network card .. at least it seems so |
| 10:32.07 | vopicak | E: package kernel-source has no installation candidate |
| 10:32.09 | liable | vopicak: did you install the 2.4 kernel-image? what one do you have now? |
| 10:32.25 | vopicak | 2.2.20 |
| 10:32.27 | vopicak | :D |
| 10:32.32 | liable | vopicak: my bad, apt-cache search, not apt-get |
| 10:33.11 | vopicak | ok |
| 10:33.11 | vopicak | and nothing |
| 10:33.21 | liable | vopicak: is both cd's in the database? |
| 10:33.28 | vopicak | yeh |
| 10:33.34 | vopicak | i think so |
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| 10:33.40 | azeem | check your sources.list |
| 10:34.13 | vopicak | wheres this file ? |
| 10:34.23 | azeem | /etc/apt |
| 10:34.44 | vopicak | yeh, it there |
| 10:34.49 | vopicak | its there |
| 10:34.52 | azeem | sure |
| 10:34.57 | azeem | check *inside* sources.list |
| 10:35.04 | vopicak | sure |
| 10:35.20 | liable | heh |
| 10:35.51 | vopicak | deb cdrom bleh bleh woody bleh Binary-2 |
| 10:35.53 | vopicak | deb cdrom bleh bleh woody bleh Binary-1 |
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| 10:36.50 | azeem | ok |
| 10:36.51 | liable | vopicak: ok, no sources for you then.. at least install the newest image on the cd's and try again |
| 10:37.43 | vopicak | i cant download another cds ... |
| 10:37.49 | liable | .. |
| 10:37.53 | vopicak | i am already downloading porn ... |
| 10:37.56 | vopicak | ^^ |
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| 10:38.11 | liable | apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 10:38.15 | ZehBeh | hey everyone |
| 10:38.17 | vopicak | ah |
| 10:38.20 | vopicak | :DD |
| 10:38.22 | vopicak | thanks :) |
| 10:38.53 | ZehBeh | is it possible to switch from x86_64 to i386 system? |
| 10:39.09 | ZehBeh | is there any command which installs the appropiate i386 packages? |
| 10:39.34 | vopicak | liable couldnt find package kerne-image |
| 10:39.39 | vopicak | when i try to install it |
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| 10:42.09 | anobain | can anybody help me with this: evbug.c: Event. Dev: isa0060/serio0/input0, Type: 1, Code: 28, Value: 1 , I get plenty of them in dmesg |
| 10:42.32 | anobain | it is something related to the keyboard or the mouse? |
| 10:42.41 | formorer | yes |
| 10:42.51 | formorer | you shouldn't load evbug |
| 10:42.59 | anobain | ??? |
| 10:43.05 | formorer | its a debug module und shouldn't be loaded |
| 10:43.11 | anobain | how can I disable it? |
| 10:43.15 | formorer | it will print you every input event |
| 10:43.20 | anobain | oh! |
| 10:43.33 | formorer | anobain: normally its blacklistet, what have you done to enable it? |
| 10:43.44 | anobain | don't know |
| 10:43.56 | anobain | I've been compiling some stuff, perhaps it was that... |
| 10:44.08 | anobain | (wireless PCI card drivers) |
| 10:44.40 | anobain | formorer, how can I blacklist it? |
| 10:45.12 | formorer | anobain: is /etc/modprobe.d still included in /etc/modprobe.conf? |
| 10:45.42 | anobain | what do you mean by "included"? |
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| 10:46.26 | formorer | include /etc/modprobe.d |
| 10:46.33 | formorer | this should be inside |
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| 10:46.58 | anobain | ok, one moment |
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| 10:50.15 | MatBoy | Is it the best to tar a directory when moving it to another location with keeping the userrights on the files ? |
| 10:50.25 | anobain | formorer, there is nothing in /etc/modprove.conf, but there is a /etc/modprobe/blacklist. It contains this: |
| 10:50.35 | anobain | # evbug is a debug tool and should be loaded explicitly | blacklist evbug |
| 10:50.43 | formorer | I know |
| 10:50.44 | anobain | formorer, weird!!! |
| 10:50.50 | formorer | no its not |
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| 10:51.01 | formorer | one of you crappy modules have overwritten the modules.conf |
| 10:51.21 | formorer | so modprobe.d isn't included anymore and the modules aren't blacklisted |
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| 10:52.01 | anobain | one moment, formorer, /etc/modprobe.conf has a # line, commented. SHould I delete it? |
| 10:52.22 | formorer | what line? |
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| 10:53.48 | anobain | formorer, #alias ra0 rt61 |
| 10:54.08 | formorer | bite your ralink drivers, the deleted the modprobe.conf |
| 10:54.23 | formorer | just add the following line to the config: include /etc/modprobe.d |
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| 10:55.14 | anobain | formorer, ok, and delete the #alias ra0 rt61? |
| 10:55.58 | formorer | its commented out, so you can just leave it inside |
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| 10:56.35 | anobain | ok |
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| 11:02.00 | setcode | hello |
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| 11:13.39 | runeman | hello, is it possible to install windoze after debian on separate harddrives? or will the mbr be borken? |
| 11:14.24 | edrin | runeman: will be broken probably |
| 11:14.35 | edrin | but only for debian, not for windows |
| 11:14.50 | edrin | just insert debian boot cd and repair it |
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| 11:15.17 | edrin | or make a bootmenue from windows... this is possible, too... |
| 11:16.33 | simon23 | hi there, just have been here some minutes ago, with a firefox problem after upgrading to etch. firefox still crashes :( and after my reboot the konqueror won't show the devices section : ( ....now searching for help :) |
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| 11:18.07 | wam | Hi, I'm looking for a rsync-daemon which rsyncs every n seconds between my hosts. I want this instead of drbd, because I only have 100MBit NICs. I can't use cron, because I want the sync to be started by heartbeat. Is there something like I'm looking for? |
| 11:19.00 | simon23 | wam: what is heartbeat? |
| 11:19.12 | wam | simon23: a ha solution |
| 11:19.28 | Eulex | wam, write a script of some sort? |
| 11:20.01 | wam | Eulex: I could. But I have not much knowledge about daemon-programming. So this would be highly unstalbe. |
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| 11:24.08 | sco2006 | hello2all ! can anyone help with starting pppoe server on debian sarge ? |
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| 11:27.03 | green-mouse | Hi somebody use bootsplas with debian unstable? I have sysv-rc 2.86.ds1-14.1 and progress bar don`t move... patch from www.bootsplash.de don`t match to last version of sysv-rc :(... |
| 11:27.44 | liable | !splashy |
| 11:27.44 | dpkg | i guess splashy is a basic userspace bootsplash package which is currently in experimental but works in sarge all right. http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/ and backported pacakges for sarge are available here: http://layer-acht.org/splashy/ |
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| 11:28.19 | liable | sco2006: what exactly is the problem? |
| 11:28.32 | sco2006 | liable: pppoe-server works fine on CentOS, but I can't make it work on debian. When client connects to pppoe server, process forks on server, but client's session never begins (Windows XP)/ I use pap auth |
| 11:28.37 | green-mouse | liable: i konw about splashy but i`am not love it... |
| 11:29.09 | liable | sco2006: oh, ok then you prolly know than me about it.. :P |
| 11:29.18 | liable | +more |
| 11:29.25 | green-mouse | liable: it flick on my video card... |
| 11:30.05 | liable | green-mouse: i tried bootsplash once and failed miserably. one thing i found in the process was that it doesnt like debian sources.. |
| 11:30.47 | sco2006 | liable: maybe any doc on pppoe server, but for Debian please ? |
| 11:31.23 | sco2006 | liable: I tried a lot of config samples, but I cant make it on debian ^( |
| 11:32.00 | liable | sco2006: i dont have any in my bookmarks :( if i found one, it would be from google, which you could do just as well. try the debian-administartion site for a start maybe |
| 11:32.46 | liable | sco2006: other than readin /usr/share/doc/ |
| 11:33.12 | sco2006 | liable: thanks :) in google i've found only similar questions |
| 11:33.53 | simon23 | hi again. after upgrading to etch.... firefox keeps crashing. even after reboot and even as another user. :( can anyone give me hints before i backup my links and uninstall it. ? |
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| 11:43.12 | sonasks | what is the default umask to set, that users can`t change directory up ? |
| 11:43.14 | sonasks | in ftp |
| 11:43.19 | sonasks | proftp |
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| 11:44.24 | signius | Good Morning guys |
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| 11:45.18 | ktwilight | simon23, best is to backup your files, then uninstall it, then install it again |
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| 11:46.04 | simon23 | well i think i will do - it works for hundrets others using etch too :-/ |
| 11:46.12 | signius | I am trying to install the latest version of evolution using a .deb package but getting a tonne of missing dependancies is it possible to make dpkg resolve the missing dependancies or will i have to upgrade the whole apt source repos in order to do this as the latest version of evolution in stable appears to be 2.0.4 and i am trying to install 2.6 |
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| 11:46.44 | sep | signius, do not install random .deb's from the net. install using repos you trust. with apt-get or aptitude. |
| 11:47.02 | signius | the .deb file is from the debian website |
| 11:47.05 | sep | signius, you can use backports.org perhaps. |
| 11:47.21 | sep | signius, but not for your version debian probably |
| 11:47.45 | signius | yeah but the version in stable refuses to connect to my exchange server |
| 11:47.58 | signius | so i am trying to see if a more recent version resolves this |
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| 11:48.05 | signius | so what other options do i have ? |
| 11:48.51 | tenzing_ | whats the latest debian release version no. |
| 11:49.00 | signius | I am open to suggestions |
| 11:49.07 | meppl | guten morgen |
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| 11:49.39 | meppl | tenzing, www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 11:49.56 | tenzing_ | meppl: i cant access the www at the moment |
| 11:52.20 | signius | No ideas or suggestions then :-( |
| 11:53.17 | sep | signius, compiler your own from souorce. or search for a backport for sarge. or upgrade and run etch. whatever you do, do not run packages made for another version on sarge. |
| 11:53.41 | meppl | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:54.01 | kyncani | signius: you could take a look at backports |
| 11:54.01 | signius | ok thanks |
| 11:54.06 | meppl | tenzing_, the momentaneous "testing"-version calls "etch" |
| 11:54.15 | tenzing_ | meppl: thanks |
| 11:54.17 | signius | i think i will try backports first |
| 11:54.22 | signius | failing that i will just compile it |
| 11:54.27 | meppl | there is also an "unstable" version - allways with the name sid |
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| 11:55.46 | MatBoy | Is it possible to make a symlink to a location that does not exist at the moment ? So it wil be automaticly picked up during installation ? |
| 11:56.12 | yxa | can FAM be used to backup files realtime? |
| 11:56.19 | Myon | MatBoy: yes |
| 11:56.26 | DaBlade | MatBoy: Try it and see. I don't know.. |
| 11:56.28 | signius | ok thanks the only version in backports from what i can find is still a very old version so i guess will have to do a godd old fasioned compile |
| 11:56.43 | signius | thanks for the pointers |
| 11:56.43 | MatBoy | Myon, I hope so :) |
| 11:56.46 | MatBoy | thanks ! |
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| 12:25.24 | Henk | Hi, what is the best way to get sun's java sdk on debian? Are there any debs? or do i need to run their binary installer? |
| 12:25.35 | Henk | i'd rather have apt do it for me |
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| 12:26.34 | ramiroec | Henk : binary |
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| 12:27.48 | josephine1 | Hi, can anyone tell me how can I run more processe from a single command line ? like ./eggdrop eggdrop.conf & eggdrop2.conf & eggdrop3.conf ? |
| 12:28.03 | jetscreamer | isn't there a new .deb in sid nonfree for java? |
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| 12:29.29 | fourat | i want to 'modprobe -r soundcore' and i get 'FATAL: Module snd_pcm is in use.', is there any way to force-remove that module |
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| 12:32.07 | knight3 | hey guys how do i check package version using apt-get |
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| 12:32.57 | pipeline | knight3: apt-cache show |
| 12:33.10 | pipeline | knight3: why is it apt-cache? Nobody remembers. |
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| 12:33.37 | ram_einstein | is the qemu on the default repos compiled with kqemu support? |
| 12:34.42 | knight3 | actually no sorry im thinking of wrong think i mean dpkg |
| 12:34.44 | sep | no |
| 12:34.53 | sep | afaik |
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| 12:35.03 | knight3 | i want to see the version of say mysql installed |
| 12:35.26 | ram_einstein | sep: then what's the workaround? |
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| 12:36.06 | ram_einstein | sep: I have qemu (without kqemu support) and kqemu. I want a qemu with kqemu supprot |
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| 12:37.15 | sep | ram_einstein, compile your own ? |
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| 12:38.54 | adrakoa | hi |
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| 12:39.58 | RvGaTe | im a complete noob if it comes to adding computers in a domain/windows envirement... but my linux server doesn't have internet untill i do so... any guides on how to do this? |
| 12:40.08 | ram_einstein | sep: okay, I'll do that |
| 12:40.10 | Divine07 | is there a way to see all the packages that are available w/ apt? |
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| 12:40.39 | RvGaTe | Divine07: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 12:43.41 | ram_einstein | sep: when I compile from sources, I lose package management, right? |
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| 12:44.13 | sep | ram_, instead of doing make install do checkinstall make install |
| 12:44.22 | sep | ram_einstein, but you are generaly correct |
| 12:44.30 | ram_einstein | ! |
| 12:44.32 | ram_einstein | that's bad |
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| 12:44.36 | blondie | znx: we'll have no petting here! ;P |
| 12:44.36 | ram_einstein | I can't even update it then |
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| 12:44.45 | znx | blondie: awww .. but |
| 12:44.59 | sep | checkinstall builds a package for you, giving you package management |
| 12:45.23 | dsR|zooyorK | can someone please assist.. i run a NAME SERVER + MAIL SERVER etc off this box.. with domains etc.. how do i create a mailbox for a particular domain through SSH? |
| 12:45.54 | petemc | dsR|zooyorK: too many variables.. |
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| 12:47.35 | fireba11 | i need help with IPsec ... log says only " encrypted Informational Exchange message is invalid because it is for incomplete ISAKMP SA" ... what causes this error ? |
| 12:47.42 | ram_einstein | sep: btw, what are .src.deb packages? |
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| 12:48.15 | simon23 | hi - how can i install grub using grub-install when my disk is sda3 ? #grub-install /dev/sda3 --> has no corresponding BIOS device !! |
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| 12:48.21 | manfed | re |
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| 12:48.38 | znx | simon23: check /boot/grub/device.map |
| 12:48.41 | dsR|zooyorK | petemc: what is the best way to do it then? |
| 12:48.49 | simon23 | znx: thanks. |
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| 12:49.40 | dsR|zooyorK | petemc: webmin is on here.. i just try login with the root details.. they dont work |
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| 12:49.55 | znx | simon23: you might need to rescan for the device .. you can do that with: grub-install --recheck |
| 12:50.04 | znx | then check the device.map file again. |
| 12:50.05 | josephine1 | :) how coul i add a startup up process on debian? like an eggdrop |
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| 12:50.22 | petemc | dsR|zooyorK: ive no idea about webmin, but you didnt even specify which mta you use - no one can answer you question |
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| 12:50.38 | nbt | hi there's a cd-burner program that supports overburn ? |
| 12:50.49 | streuner | k3b? |
| 12:51.20 | simon23 | znx: no - dont have to. changed the /boot/grub/device.map guess that works, didnt get any errors. |
| 12:51.30 | streuner | --overburn function is, btw, in cdrecord as well... |
| 12:51.33 | znx | simon23: :) |
| 12:51.36 | simon23 | znx: do you know how to use the grub shell ? |
| 12:51.46 | znx | simon23: moderately :) |
| 12:51.58 | simon23 | znx: thats something like a mysterium for me ... |
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| 12:52.15 | simon23 | znx: meant mysteri |
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| 12:52.29 | znx | hehe |
| 12:52.32 | znx | mystery! |
| 12:52.38 | ram_einstein | what do I need to compile qemu? libsdl-dev? |
| 12:52.39 | simon23 | ah - yes. :-) |
| 12:52.58 | simon23 | can you mount a fs or list files with the grubshell ? |
| 12:53.00 | znx | simon23: its not that hard .. it auto completes for you two .. :)) |
| 12:53.14 | simon23 | (haven't found a good tutorial yet.) |
| 12:53.38 | znx | simon23: hehe yeah i dont think one exists. |
| 12:53.51 | znx | i aint got time though .. off to work |
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| 12:53.58 | simon23 | i heard about changing your background images in that shell... but then i forgot the names of the xpm files :-( |
| 12:54.15 | simon23 | couldnt find that out with the grubshell |
| 12:54.23 | znx | simon23: the commands in /boot/grub/grub.lst .. are the grub shell commands... |
| 12:54.24 | Divine07 | how do you get back into the initial apt install? |
| 12:54.32 | znx | anyhoo .. need to go |
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| 12:54.45 | simon23 | thanks a lot! |
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| 12:56.16 | adrakoa | Divine07, what you mean? |
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| 12:57.21 | fourat | i want to 'modprobe -r soundcore' and i get 'FATAL: Module snd_pcm is in use.', is there any way to force-remove that module |
| 12:57.27 | Divine07 | well |
| 12:57.38 | Divine07 | i made a mistake in the initial setup |
| 12:57.42 | Divine07 | and none of the apt packages got installed |
| 12:57.47 | Divine07 | how can i get back into that installer |
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| 12:57.56 | Divine07 | and reinstall those packages without doing it manually |
| 12:58.22 | Divine07 | any ideas? |
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| 12:59.15 | streuner | Divine07: so the base system is installed? |
| 12:59.16 | dany | Divine07, were you defining tasks or selecting packages to install individually ? |
| 12:59.23 | Divine07 | yeah the base system is installed |
| 12:59.26 | streuner | Divine07: just try 'apt-get -f install' |
| 12:59.27 | Divine07 | but that's it |
| 12:59.45 | dany | aptitude is your friend |
| 12:59.56 | adrakoa | ahha |
| 12:59.59 | Divine07 | that didnt work |
| 13:00.04 | nbt | ok; how do i change keb interface lnaguage ? |
| 13:00.05 | Divine07 | none of the standard packages are installed |
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| 13:00.08 | Divine07 | not even ssh |
| 13:00.23 | Divine07 | isnt there a way to rerun that portion of the install |
| 13:00.31 | streuner | ssh isn't installed by default |
| 13:00.36 | Divine07 | sure it is |
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| 13:00.57 | Divine07 | well when i clicked the "desktop" packages it was |
| 13:01.25 | streuner | yes, but that's NOT part of base system |
| 13:01.32 | Divine07 | ah |
| 13:01.39 | streuner | so run 'tasksel' |
| 13:01.47 | adrakoa | Divine07, apt-get install gnome |
| 13:01.48 | dany | Divine07, tasksel |
| 13:02.17 | Divine07 | thankyou! |
| 13:02.33 | Divine07 | one last thing, how do i get it to install thru http rather than cdrom |
| 13:02.51 | streuner | apt-setup |
| 13:02.58 | streuner | and choose what you need |
| 13:02.58 | asg | Divine07: apt-setup (or edit /etc/apt/sources.list) |
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| 13:03.07 | streuner | asg: ! |
| 13:03.20 | asg | streuner: hiya |
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| 13:04.44 | streuner | Divine07: apt takes care of it, it downloads the latest stuff according to sources.list |
| 13:05.09 | smacnay | to find a snapshot of the debian linux kernel 2.6.15-k7, would I go to debian.snapshot.net? |
| 13:05.19 | asg | smacnay: snapshot.debian.net |
| 13:05.21 | smacnay | oops - 2.6.14-x-k7 |
| 13:05.32 | smacnay | asg: thanks |
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| 13:05.47 | nbt | ok; how do i change keb interface lnaguage ? |
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| 13:06.30 | asg | nbt: /msg dpkg keymap ; dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 13:07.21 | smacnay | asg: I found the 2.6.14-7 - does debian keep a repository of the k7 and other builds? |
| 13:07.43 | smacnay | asg: sorry - found it. |
| 13:07.47 | asg | smacnay: ah, okay |
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| 13:12.07 | nbt | ] <asg> only for k3b not for all |
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| 13:12.29 | nyk2005 | How can I get a list of installed packages from APT? |
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| 13:12.37 | asg | nyk2005: dpkg -l |
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| 13:13.30 | dany | nyk2005, dpkg -l|grep ^ii |
| 13:13.52 | asg | nyk2005: more completely: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | egrep '^[h|i]i' |
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| 13:14.13 | N-0-X | debhelper tell N-0-X about glx |
| 13:14.16 | N-0-X | please :) |
| 13:14.24 | asg | N-0-X: /msg the bots |
| 13:14.28 | N-0-X | I said please ... common' |
| 13:14.37 | N-0-X | ok, will do so ;) |
| 13:15.19 | nyk2005 | THANKS! |
| 13:15.29 | Tomze | dpkg wont tell me much about "ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/" whats going on with this server? and i dont see anything in debian weekly |
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| 13:16.12 | N-0-X | asg, what am I supposed to tell the bot? |
| 13:16.15 | RichiH | how can i get an overview of all jobs i put inot background? |
| 13:16.23 | smacnay | asg: I see some kernel images with "rc5" in the name - is that an experimental image or one with added tweaks? |
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| 13:16.34 | solemnwarning | Hi all |
| 13:16.55 | asg | N-0-X: /msg <bot> listkeys <foo> ; /msg <bot> listvals <bar> ; /msg <bot> help |
| 13:17.08 | asg | Tomze: did you read the bit about debian-multimedia.org? |
| 13:17.10 | solemnwarning | When is the python2.3-subversion/svn version bug gonna be fixed |
| 13:17.14 | Tassium | smacnay: rc usually means "release candidate" in my experience, which says to me it's experimental |
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| 13:17.21 | Tomze | asg, geuss not... i will - thanks |
| 13:17.21 | asg | solemnwarning: check the bts |
| 13:17.24 | wamty | hat would be a command line package for dealing with sound files? |
| 13:17.35 | asg | wamty: the sox package |
| 13:17.35 | solemnwarning | Which package would it be under? |
| 13:17.38 | Tassium | wamty: Depends how you want to 'deal with' them |
| 13:17.39 | smacnay | Tassium: thanks |
| 13:17.40 | wamty | Well, I was hoping for something like ImageMagick for sound files, but something to turn raw sound files into something like a wav, would do for now. |
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| 13:18.02 | asg | solemnwarning: python2.3-subversion I expect |
| 13:18.04 | Tassium | wamty: Then go with asg's suggestion, the sox package |
| 13:18.06 | wamty | so? |
| 13:18.08 | Tomze | asg, recently ? |
| 13:18.10 | solemnwarning | dpkg is being really helpful today "i guess bts is no bts" |
| 13:18.19 | kromagg | wamty: transcode can do something like that too |
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| 13:18.26 | asg | Tomze: as of the fifth of this month |
| 13:18.36 | Tomze | hehe..thanks |
| 13:18.45 | solemnwarning | !bts |
| 13:18.46 | dpkg | i heard bts is no bts |
| 13:18.56 | asg | !factinfo bts |
| 13:18.56 | dpkg | bts -- last modified 14h 42m 44s ago by kbrooks!n=kbrooks@easyubuntu/developer/kbrooks; it has been requested 8 times, last by solemnwarning, 11s ago. |
| 13:19.12 | dchat | anyone help with a tar problem onto a USB tape drive ? I cannot seem to write a second tar file to it .. .. it says it does, but a -t only lists the first file thanks for any help |
| 13:19.16 | solemnwarning | ubuntu devs have write access to it?? |
| 13:19.23 | asg | !no, bts is Debian's Bug Tracking System (bugs.debian.org) |
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| 13:19.51 | jair | good morning guys. |
| 13:20.07 | Tassium | Mornin', jair |
| 13:20.12 | stew | dpkg: no bts is <reply> bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 13:20.12 | dpkg | okay, stew |
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| 13:20.44 | asg | stew: errant comma on my part |
| 13:21.35 | f00li5h | ok, so i've got most of an install, of unstable, but perl complains about locale's, and that ``setting locale failed'' and tells me that it's falling abck to C's local. only thing is that it does it every time it's executed |
| 13:21.40 | solemnwarning | The bug isn't listed, even though it makes the module unusable |
| 13:21.42 | vopicak | 4 8 15 16 23 42 |
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| 13:21.49 | asg | f00li5h: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 13:21.55 | asg | solemnwarning: then file a bug |
| 13:21.56 | solemnwarning | Am I the only one who uses python2.3-subversion? :\ |
| 13:21.57 | f00li5h | asg: with an s, you think |
| 13:22.07 | asg | f00li5h: yes, with an s |
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| 13:22.47 | exalted | Hi. I'm using Debian unstable, and have http://rafb.net/paste/results/s7K66r41.html error messages when i "dpkg-reconfigure scrollkeeper". I'd be glad if anyone familiar with bug reporting would report this one. Thank you. |
| 13:22.54 | f00li5h | asg: in other news, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
| 13:23.03 | asg | f00li5h: apt-get -f install |
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| 13:23.30 | solemnwarning | Would it kill bugs.debian.org to just have a HTML form for adding bugs? :\ |
| 13:23.31 | k31th | http://pastebin.com/ thats basically saying the mailbox at M$'s end is not accessable for that user right ? |
| 13:23.33 | ram_einstein | is it possible to compile something by hand and still retain package management? |
| 13:23.36 | f00li5h | asg: erm, time passes, and 0 upgraded, 0 new, 0 removed, 25 not upgraded |
| 13:23.45 | ram_einstein | erm, and install too |
| 13:23.46 | f00li5h | i'm updating now |
| 13:24.06 | f00li5h | what is pdiff? that sounds like a diff to the package tree... |
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| 13:24.17 | RichiH | f00li5h: indeed |
| 13:24.27 | f00li5h | RichiH: handy. |
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| 13:24.49 | f00li5h | i've been on stable forever, but i'm starting a box for myself. so unstable it is. |
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| 13:25.23 | RichiH | f00li5h: with http, it is. with ftp, all those small files hurt |
| 13:25.40 | f00li5h | RichiH: hrm, well, http it is then |
| 13:25.43 | f00li5h | tehe, it says itcan't verify the packages, when i'm installing gnupg |
| 13:25.51 | RichiH | heh |
| 13:26.03 | simon23 | how can i find out what libs or programms are never/not so often used ? (my harddisk is getting full..) |
| 13:26.09 | RichiH | deporphan |
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| 13:26.10 | f00li5h | ok, so i installed gnupg, and now i have 30 packages in all, on my system. |
| 13:26.14 | RichiH | deborphan |
| 13:26.17 | f00li5h | i think i may have missed half of core, thoughts? |
| 13:26.34 | RichiH | f00li5h: how did you install? what cd image? |
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| 13:27.01 | f00li5h | RichiH: i can't say, because it was a re-writable that went wrong, so i wrote another image over it. |
| 13:27.08 | f00li5h | (which was rather silly, really) |
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| 13:27.21 | RichiH | not at all |
| 13:27.27 | RichiH | what was the second image? |
| 13:27.39 | f00li5h | RichiH: aah, you see, the pen only mentions the first |
| 13:27.43 | f00li5h | i'll ask a computer |
| 13:27.57 | jair | when using wget, the best options are wget -Na? |
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| 13:28.25 | power1 | Hey all, I am having a problem booting a second hard drive with grub> I have put in a seperate physical disk with windows xp installed, its connected to the onboard ide ite8212 raid controller on the motherboard. If I boot into linux i see the drive is detected as /dev/hde but no matter what grub options i use or what mapping i use it just says no drive found.......any ideas...am I wasting my time with this one? |
| 13:28.30 | jair | it is an option using wget that I can stop and continue later in the same part I was without have to start over correct? |
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| 13:28.53 | f00li5h | Ok, testing i386 Bin-1 is the disk label, |
| 13:29.02 | f00li5h | and the readme says |
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| 13:29.28 | f00li5h | Sarge, but i see no dates |
| 13:29.45 | RichiH | f00li5h: is that a current testing image, i.e. one where there is a daily build of the debian installer on it? |
| 13:29.57 | f00li5h | not a daily build |
| 13:30.03 | wut | how do i change a directory and all sub directories to be writeable to user? |
| 13:30.11 | RichiH | then i can see not reason why you should miss base |
| 13:30.14 | asg | jair: -c |
| 13:30.20 | smacnay | funny, I installed linux-image-2.6.14-2-k7 and linux-headers-2.6.14-2-k7 but see that in the /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-2-k7 dir a bunch of dead links to a non-existent /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-2 dir. |
| 13:30.23 | RichiH | i would join #debian-installer and ask them for ideas |
| 13:30.25 | asg | wut: man chmod |
| 13:30.28 | RichiH | might be a bug, who knows |
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| 13:30.42 | smacnay | Are the headers packages not maintained in the snapshot repository? |
| 13:30.49 | f00li5h | RichiH: i see. how many should there be if i don't pick anything in tasksel? |
| 13:30.57 | jair | asg: so I should do: wget -c <url>? |
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| 13:31.14 | RvGaTe | im a complete noob if it comes to adding computers in a domain/windows envirement... but my linux server doesn't have internet untill i do so... any guides on how to do this? |
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| 13:31.33 | asg | jair: yes, 'man wget' will give you the full documentation |
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| 13:32.12 | f00li5h | RvGaTe: http://its.med.yale.edu/tech_docs/addmachine/add_xp.html |
| 13:32.22 | f00li5h | as it happens, i was just reading something along those lines. |
| 13:32.27 | f00li5h | but it may be useless to you... |
| 13:33.00 | RvGaTe | f00li5h: you know its all for windows right? :P |
| 13:33.16 | f00li5h | RvGaTe: yeah, you said windows domain, and adding windows boxen, right? |
| 13:33.18 | jair | asg: thank you |
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| 13:33.38 | RvGaTe | f00li5h quote: "but my linux server doesn't have internet untill i do so" |
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| 13:34.08 | f00li5h | RvGaTe: that doesn't mean you're adding the linux box to the domain. |
| 13:34.14 | f00li5h | i'll not quibble however. |
| 13:34.30 | RvGaTe | well, you know what i mean now :) |
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| 13:34.37 | Tassium | RvGaTe: You want to add your samba box as a member server, right? |
| 13:35.03 | RvGaTe | Tassium: yeah |
| 13:35.22 | Tassium | RvGaTe: There's info about that in Samba's documentation, check out samba.org. (Or just google "linux samba member server" |
| 13:36.19 | rohan | whats the easiest way to optimize or 'refresh' the dpkg database ? |
| 13:36.44 | RvGaTe | rohan: i think you'll need: apt-get update |
| 13:36.58 | rohan | err.. not packages |
| 13:37.11 | Akbar | sources.list? |
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| 13:37.42 | RvGaTe | rohan: you know there is apt-get update and upgrade? |
| 13:37.55 | RichiH | f00li5h: no idea. you said you weree missing files from base :) |
| 13:37.55 | f00li5h | RichiH: away nap time |
| 13:38.05 | rohan | RvGaTe: sure |
| 13:38.22 | rohan | what i mean is .. on my pc it takes a lot of time to "(Reading database ... 102291 files and directories currently installed.)" .. is there any way to optimize that database ? |
| 13:38.44 | Tassium | rohan: Not really, no. Install more RAM, most likely |
| 13:38.47 | asg | rohan: remove cruft from /etc/apt/sources.list ; buy a faster machine |
| 13:38.59 | rohan | ok, Tassium and asg :) |
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| 13:39.41 | solemnwarning | Why is python2.3-subversion in stable apt? |
| 13:40.02 | asg | solemnwarning: why wouldn't it be? |
| 13:40.04 | solemnwarning | It needs subversion 1.2.0 or higher, but stable only has 1.1.4 |
| 13:40.30 | asg | solemnwarning: then you have mixed your sources |
| 13:40.36 | solemnwarning | No |
| 13:40.39 | LinuxNIT | is there a setting to change so that i dont have to do xhost + as user to beable to open gui programs as root? curretnly it says cannont open display acces denied |
| 13:40.51 | solemnwarning | I only have stable, the machine has only ever used stable |
| 13:40.52 | smacnay | I need linux-headers if I am going to successfully add thrid-party modules, correct? |
| 13:41.15 | asg | solemnwarning: it requires libsvn0 >= 1.1.4-2. Try running 'apt-get update' |
| 13:41.22 | solemnwarning | I did |
| 13:41.26 | Akbar | apt-get clean? |
| 13:41.27 | Eulex | solemnwarning, python2.3-subversion 1.1.4-2 (which is in stable) depends on libsvn0 (>= 1.1.4-2) |
| 13:41.50 | solemnwarning | http://www.tkchat.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi <-- I think you have your dependencies mixed up |
| 13:41.55 | asg | solemnwarning: paste your sources.list and the output of apt-cache policy python2.3-subversion to our paster bot |
| 13:42.05 | asg | solemnwarning: wtf is tkchat.org? |
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| 13:42.14 | Akbar | lol |
| 13:42.24 | solemnwarning | An error page |
| 13:42.38 | solemnwarning | Exception: Version requirement not met (needs 1.2.0 or better) |
| 13:42.45 | Eulex | solemnwarning, http://packages.debian.org/stable/python/python2.3-subversion |
| 13:43.18 | Eulex | solemnwarning, hmm, what version of python2.3-subversion do you have? |
| 13:43.27 | solemnwarning | The latest one on apt |
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| 13:43.36 | solemnwarning | I've done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 13:43.46 | Eulex | solemnwarning, that's not useful. what version? |
| 13:43.48 | asg | solemnwarning: paste the output of your sources and apt-cache policy python2.3-subversion |
| 13:44.26 | Akbar | I think he has a backports repository somewhere |
| 13:45.24 | solemnwarning | http://rafb.net/paste/results/ytooih53.html <-- sources.list |
| 13:45.56 | Akbar | and apt-cache policy python2.3-subversion.. |
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| 13:46.12 | solemnwarning | http://rafb.net/paste/results/TUi7b034.html |
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| 13:46.35 | dsR|zooyorK | can someone please assist.. i run a NAME SERVER + MAIL SERVER etc off this box.. with domains etc.. how do i create a mailbox for a particular domain through SSH? |
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| 13:46.47 | dsR|zooyorK | i have webmin.. but i use root username/pass and it doesnt work. |
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| 13:47.11 | simonrvn | !webmin |
| 13:47.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Obsoleted in debian: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 13:47.12 | Eulex | solemnwarning, hmm. time to file a bug report then, I guess. |
| 13:47.21 | Tassium | dsR|zooyorK: Since you didn't tell us what software you're using, we can't tell you |
| 13:47.23 | dsR|zooyorK | simonrvn: no shit.. thats why im asking.. the syntax |
| 13:47.28 | dsR|zooyorK | Tassium: exim/cppop |
| 13:47.43 | LinuxNIT | is there a setting to change so that i dont have to do xhost + as user to beable to open gui programs as root? curretnly it says cannont open display acces denied |
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| 13:48.05 | solemnwarning | argh |
| 13:48.13 | solemnwarning | bugs.debian.org is annoying |
| 13:48.18 | asg | solemnwarning: that error is coming from viewvc |
| 13:48.25 | RichiH | LinuxNIT: either use kdesu or gtksu or ln -s ~mainuser/.XAuthority ~ as root |
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| 13:48.30 | RichiH | i prefer the second |
| 13:48.41 | broadcaster | Hi all. I found the solution to my touchpad problem: ksynaptics seems to be broken in testing and unstable. The TP mus be configured solely in xorg.conf, best is to turn of SHMConfig, so ksynaptics can't mess it up. |
| 13:48.48 | solemnwarning | "Hey everyone, screw a html form, lets use some annoying email parser that requires reading a huge page just to file a bug report!" |
| 13:48.48 | LinuxNIT | RichiH, thanks |
| 13:48.54 | RichiH | np |
| 13:49.14 | MoDaX | broadcaster: downgrade synatics driver |
| 13:49.37 | MoDaX | broadcaster: to 0.14.4-5 |
| 13:49.38 | Eulex | solemnwarning, set up your mta correctly and use reportbug. |
| 13:49.42 | dsR|zooyorK | Tassium: ? |
| 13:49.42 | asg | solemnwarning: you'll need to find a version of viewvc that runs with 1.1.4. This is not a Debian bug. |
| 13:49.46 | dsR|zooyorK | simonrvn: ? |
| 13:49.55 | simonrvn | bts also accepts direct send |
| 13:49.57 | MoDaX | broadcaster: an update for ksynaptics is being worked on |
| 13:49.57 | solemnwarning | But how can it be a viewvc bug? |
| 13:49.58 | Eulex | asg, ah |
| 13:50.05 | simonrvn | dsR|zooyorK: what is it? |
| 13:50.10 | broadcaster | MoDaX: why couldn't you tell me before...? |
| 13:50.10 | solemnwarning | Viewvc uses python2.3-subversion for svn stuff |
| 13:50.10 | asg | solemnwarning: because viewvc requires 1.2.0 and debian sarge doesn't have it |
| 13:50.11 | dsR|zooyorK | simonrvn: Exim/cppop |
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| 13:50.19 | simonrvn | what about them? |
| 13:50.25 | MoDaX | broadcaster: I wasn't there :) |
| 13:50.28 | dsR|zooyorK | simonrvn: how do I create a mailbox.. |
| 13:50.32 | MoDaX | s/there/here/ |
| 13:50.34 | dsR|zooyorK | for a domain |
| 13:50.34 | MoDaX | :) |
| 13:50.49 | broadcaster | MoDaX: aaarrrrggg!!! it took me three days.... |
| 13:51.15 | broadcaster | MoDaX: you knwo what ksynaptics does when SHMConfig is on? it remaps button 1 (onefinger tap) to 12!!! >:-( |
| 13:51.15 | simonrvn | a) what kind of mailbox? b) what kind of account? c) what's your setup, IMAP, POP3, *nix mbox, ... ? |
| 13:51.17 | itchi | Yesterday i have migrate a Sarge box to Etch. When i boot the 2.6.15-1-k7, he loads everything then i see nothing more on the monitor. It's looks he loose the connection with the monitor. I can do an ssh to that box, so it's been running. But what happend :-/ |
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| 13:51.51 | dsR|zooyorK | a) general mailbox b) blahblah@blahblah.com c) POP3/SMTP Linux on centos |
| 13:52.04 | asg | itchi: it probably barfed on the framebuffer. Did you add a vga=791 (or similar) to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst? |
| 13:52.05 | dsR|zooyorK | simonrvn: sorry if this isnt helping much.. |
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| 13:52.17 | asg | itchi: if so, boot without it. |
| 13:52.21 | itchi | asg, I try it directly ;-) |
| 13:52.23 | broadcaster | MoDaX: i just saw I *HAVE* 0.14.5 |
| 13:52.24 | ram_einstein | I'm unable to compile qemu on the account of "install: cannot stat `/home/ram/temp/qemu/qemu-0.8.1/pc-bios/bios.bin': No such file or directory |
| 13:52.27 | ram_einstein | install: cannot stat `/home/ram/temp/qemu/qemu-0.8.1/pc-bios/vgabios.bin': No such file or directory |
| 13:52.28 | MoDaX | broadcaster: shared memory interface was changed with 0.14.5-1 |
| 13:52.34 | ram_einstein | and similar errors |
| 13:52.40 | ram_einstein | any idea what's wrong? |
| 13:52.40 | solemnwarning | Whens 1.2.0 likely to make it into stable? |
| 13:52.41 | blondie | sheep don't use computers |
| 13:52.44 | MoDaX | broadcaster: more info (grave bug): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=372498 |
| 13:52.45 | itchi | asg, I have not that cheat code; so i set it ? |
| 13:52.54 | Eulex | solemnwarning, when etch is released |
| 13:52.55 | asg | solemnwarning: never. It will be in etch when it goes stable but sarge will never have it. |
| 13:53.03 | asg | solemnwarning: you might try a backport (/msg dpkg backports) |
| 13:53.06 | solemnwarning | Dammit |
| 13:53.06 | ram_einstein | actually, I'm able to compile qemu. I just can't install it |
| 13:53.27 | asg | itchi: did you compile the kernel yourself or is this a Debian provided kernel? |
| 13:53.30 | broadcaster | MoDaX: and you know what? since i purged ksynaptics, my kde seems to run twice as fast as before... |
| 13:53.44 | itchi | asg, It's the default one |
| 13:54.00 | Bitz | any ideas what may cause a system to reboot itself sporadically? |
| 13:54.15 | dsR|zooyorK | simonrvn: ? |
| 13:54.19 | formorer | broken RAM, Temperature |
| 13:54.20 | itchi | Bitz, Goes it hot ? |
| 13:54.20 | asg | itchi: well, you can try adding 'vga=791' to see if anything pops up. Also, trying 'vga=ask' will prompt you for a number of potential console resolutions. |
| 13:54.24 | broadcaster | MoDaX: the bug described in the link is not like mine. i just have button event trouble. |
| 13:54.54 | Bitz | itchi? |
| 13:55.01 | asg | scratchy? |
| 13:55.18 | simonrvn | dsR|zooyorK: try to answer the questions as best you can. and ask the channel, not me, because i'll be busy for a little bit here |
| 13:55.24 | simonrvn | show? |
| 13:55.31 | itchi | Bitz, I meant the cpu, come it to hot, then he reboot? |
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| 13:55.42 | itchi | Bitz, Or swap file troubles? |
| 13:55.47 | dsR|zooyorK | simonrvn: seeing as this is obviously a big thing.. what is the best way to add a mailbox? |
| 13:55.55 | Tassium | Bitz: Got anything major in the logs? Like a kernel panic? |
| 13:56.20 | MoDaX | broadcaster: the fact is that ksynaptics and synaptics driver in unstable are imcompatible. downgrade to the previous version and you won't have trouble |
| 13:56.25 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK depends on how often you need to do it and what account types oyu use for mailboxes |
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| 13:56.45 | broadcaster | MoDaX: i was talking about testing. :-) |
| 13:56.49 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: apparently webmin was used.. by i try login via root details and it doesnt work |
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| 13:56.58 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11 : any reason why that could be? |
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| 13:57.00 | MoDaX | broadcaster: testing too |
| 13:57.02 | MoDaX | :) |
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| 13:57.04 | broadcaster | MoDaX: i just *tried out* unstable and just now even ex - oh |
| 13:57.09 | broadcaster | well... |
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| 13:57.21 | itchi | !beer ask |
| 13:57.24 | itchi | !beer asg |
| 13:57.25 | dsR|zooyorK | username is just 'root' yes? |
| 13:57.31 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK: the debian webmin package is no longer maintained .. don't use it if you can help it |
| 13:57.38 | Bitz | Tassium: i think there's a log message about somthing on cpu1 dimm0 and dimm1 |
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| 13:57.53 | MoDaX | broadcaster: old synaptics can be found at snapshot.debian.net downgrade and put it on hold |
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| 13:58.00 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: ok, just as a referance tho.. what could be the issue why i cant login? |
| 13:58.03 | itchi | asg, My fonts are nore on an good size now; Monitor goes not out noz :-) Next step; configuring xorg |
| 13:58.08 | itchi | oela |
| 13:58.25 | itchi | *normal |
| 13:58.26 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK: could be about a gazillion reasons .. |
| 13:58.34 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK: is that a productive box ? |
| 13:58.38 | Bitz | itchi: what do you mean by swap file troubles? |
| 13:58.41 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: mail server. |
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| 13:59.16 | itchi | Bitz, Have you swap or enought swap? |
| 13:59.33 | itchi | Bitz, Try 'free -h' |
| 13:59.34 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK: i suggest setting up a fresh one one another hardware and changing those... without root access you can't do whack .. also with webmin installed it's most likely insecure |
| 13:59.53 | dsR|zooyorK | ill just shutdown webmin.. |
| 14:00.00 | cirdan | hey, has anyone ever run something like bacula as non-root? i only have a normal acct on the backup machine |
| 14:00.08 | nse | i am back! |
| 14:00.11 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: whats the best way to setup new mailboxes for domains.. etc |
| 14:00.13 | cirdan | not sure the best way |
| 14:00.14 | itchi | asg, Thanks for you're help man ;-) |
| 14:00.22 | broadcaster | MoDaX: thank you for your help. for now i will just stay with my configuration in xorg.conf which works fine. |
| 14:00.22 | nse | thank you very much universe! |
| 14:00.50 | eide_ | I recently did apt-get upgrade, and KDE apps started crashing, I then discovered that the system disk was full. Is it supposed to be like that? Shouldn't apt alert me when the disk is full, and wait till the problem is solved, instead of barging ahead and possibly corrupt files? |
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| 14:01.25 | superlinux | I have made a backup using tar for my $HOME as home.tar.gz . how can I update the tarball without making a new tarball? |
| 14:01.26 | wamty | asg: is it possible to RAID accross a network to another hdd? |
| 14:01.27 | itchi | Bitz, Fan of cpu are running ? |
| 14:01.30 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK: depends on your setup, e.g. how many domains, how many mailboxes |
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| 14:01.48 | Bitz | itchi: could flaky hardware (ram, disk, or cpu) be the cuase of problems? |
| 14:02.02 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: 1 machine, 1 domain, 1 mail server |
| 14:02.10 | itchi | Bitz, Yeah been possible :-( |
| 14:02.21 | Bitz | itchi, i believe so will have to check on that |
| 14:02.23 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK how many mailboxes ? |
| 14:02.27 | itchi | Bitz, You need to test that hardware |
| 14:02.35 | Bitz | what tools |
| 14:02.39 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: 5+ |
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| 14:03.15 | itchi | Bitz, on knoppix i know there is an ram test tool; on that of ... moment |
| 14:03.29 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK: okay, that's close to nothing ;-) you could just set those up manually ... setting up a interface for adding users is more work than doing it manually |
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| 14:03.47 | dsR|zooyorK | ok.. whats the best way? |
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| 14:04.11 | heh_v_water | did madwifi-ng get removed from etch? if so is there a reason why.. |
| 14:04.31 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: whats the best way to add them manually.. |
| 14:04.56 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK you could just use system users |
| 14:05.18 | dsR|zooyorK | fireba11: meaning? |
| 14:05.24 | itchi | Bitz, Look to the index of that doc -> It's in dutch but interesting for you http://users.telenet.be/davidvanmosselbeen/docs/pc_technician_tools/pc_technician_tools_With_stylesheet.html |
| 14:05.40 | Tassium | dsR|zooyorK: It really really is dependent upon how your mail server does things. The procedure for Cyrus is very different from the procedure for uw-imap, for example. You'll have to check the docs for your chosen configuration |
| 14:05.44 | Bitz | thanks |
| 14:06.08 | itchi | Bitz, Yust look a bit; if you not understand, it will show you good things |
| 14:06.12 | theHat | hi, i installed dhpcd3 and had configured it, when i execute it, it dont brings me errors but dhcpd3 dont come up the eth0 iface where it has to run |
| 14:06.22 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK auth mailboxes against system users, set up a user account for every mailbox .. not advisable with a lot of users but with only a few it's the most easy way |
| 14:07.02 | dsR|zooyorK | hmm |
| 14:07.06 | dsR|zooyorK | isnt there any tools out ther |
| 14:07.06 | dsR|zooyorK | lol |
| 14:07.26 | theHat | *dhcpd3, sorry :$ |
| 14:07.27 | fireba11 | dsR|zooyorK: setting it up like that from 0 with debain takes about 15 minutes |
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| 14:07.55 | itchi | Bitz, To resume there are some sets of cd's you could donwload to use as an technician pc tools like The ultimate boot cd, |
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| 14:08.34 | Bitz | ic |
| 14:08.34 | dsR|zooyorK | ok |
| 14:08.34 | dsR|zooyorK | bbs |
| 14:09.19 | itchi | Bitz, I think i need to give it an try to translate that doc; so that to who whant keep it and become maintaner or so |
| 14:09.43 | petemc | theHat: look in /etc/default/ |
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| 14:11.26 | bipolar | is there a way to remove a package and all the package it depends on? |
| 14:12.02 | petemc | bipolar: install it with aptitude |
| 14:12.21 | Tomze | debfoster maybe |
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| 14:12.38 | cr3 | where can I find the latest debian package standard? |
| 14:12.48 | cr3 | I'm using 3.6.2 in my debian control file and that seems old |
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| 14:12.54 | Akbar | maybe remove a package it depends on and it will automatically uninstall the packages that use it |
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| 14:13.06 | jair | guys, it is a command on tar that will just run a test in the unpacking I think is -t? |
| 14:13.11 | theHat | petemc it has a correct value, eth0, but iface eth0 its down, i think i have to "reboot" inet services and maybe dhcpd3 will take up eth0 |
| 14:13.24 | bipolar | hmm... not exactly what I'm looking for, but thanks for the hints |
| 14:13.24 | theHat | cos, the server is running but the iface is down |
| 14:13.24 | jair | if I want to test the unpacking of a tar file.? |
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| 14:14.25 | petemc | theHat: huh? you cant listen on an interface that isnt up |
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| 14:14.59 | rohan | what is the best way to get opera ? use the .deb on opera.com ? |
| 14:15.11 | itchi | Hehe, when i do 'su' he do automatic enter; so i can not enter the password :-/ |
| 14:15.19 | rohan | [19:42] <dpkg> somebody said opera was a commercial web browser for Linux/Windows and other OSes. Version 8.54 is the latest stable version and debs are available on the download page at http://www.opera.com/download/linux.html or damn nice browser, especially under the hood. ---> outdated |
| 14:15.27 | theHat | petemc the servers its running :|, i understand what u mean , but i dont know whats is happening |
| 14:15.39 | Erudified | Hey, I need to parse some data that's organized into columns on lines separated by plaintext and insert it into an SQL database; would sed be a good choice for this? How can I use sed to say "What are the first n characters of a stream?" |
| 14:15.49 | theHat | and eth0 still is down |
| 14:16.08 | heh_v_water | how is it that i have two identical sources.list files on two machines sitting next to one another, one sees madwii-ng packages and the other doesn't... |
| 14:16.20 | Erudified | err, in plaintext, separated by newlines |
| 14:16.37 | itchi | In an new console; it's not the same case, trouble moved |
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| 14:17.38 | itchi | heh_v_water, Do an diff on the 2 files so you're sure it's or not diff |
| 14:18.01 | heh_v_water | itchi, I just copied the one that does show it over to the other machine... |
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| 14:18.59 | heh_v_water | this is the freekiest behavior I've ever seen from apt, hands down |
| 14:19.12 | Akbar | alsa is closed source right? |
| 14:19.23 | Akbar | I mean |
| 14:19.27 | Akbar | opera is closed source right? |
| 14:19.42 | blondie | yes |
| 14:19.44 | itchi | Is there are xorg howto for dumbs :-/ ? |
| 14:20.01 | rohan | yes, Akbar |
| 14:20.26 | itchi | Akbar, It's not in the repo |
| 14:20.28 | Akbar | so that'll never make it into Debian... |
| 14:21.18 | itchi | Akbar, Or if he changes his spirit, we never know |
| 14:21.34 | Akbar | opensource opera? :D |
| 14:22.00 | Akbar | I'm gonna try out the gnash plugin |
| 14:22.03 | Akbar | brb |
| 14:23.39 | itchi | Is there some else an default (working) xorg config file for in Etch ? |
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| 14:25.49 | itchi | If i remove /etc/X11/xorg and do dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg He not create an new config file but x complain about an old trouble. I not understand |
| 14:26.18 | heh_v_water | well I got around this but I must admit i am thoroughly disappointed about madwifi-ng apparently not being in etch anymore.. probably one of the best new packages I've used in debian in the last 5 months |
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| 14:27.15 | blondie | !why isn't madwifi-ng in etch? |
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| 14:27.25 | blondie | !why isn't madwifi-ng in testing? |
| 14:27.26 | blondie | hm |
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| 14:27.34 | heh_v_water | it's still in unstable |
| 14:27.48 | junix-other | i'm having trouble with the Nvidia drivers and kernels 2.4.27 and 2.6.15, in unstable, can anyone help? |
| 14:27.52 | formorer | blondie: cause its new and only in experimental? |
| 14:28.00 | blondie | formorer: I'm not the one asking |
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| 14:28.10 | heh_v_water | formorer, that's wrong it was in testing for almost 4 months |
| 14:28.16 | formorer | -ng? |
| 14:28.18 | heh_v_water | yes |
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| 14:28.25 | heh_v_water | I have it in 5 machines form testing |
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| 14:28.37 | heh_v_water | built this new machine, got another card last night and now it is gone |
| 14:28.39 | blondie | I've seen things removed from testing and re-added, like tor |
| 14:29.52 | heh_v_water | don't want to make a stink but i hope they have a good reason for this because I was really counting on NG going to etch when it goes stable |
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| 14:30.53 | Supaplex | heh_v_water: if you want it that bad, then help fix it, live with what you have, or backpedal into debian snapshots. |
| 14:31.03 | nse | what's up!? |
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| 14:31.16 | Supaplex | a direction |
| 14:31.18 | heh_v_water | supaplex, if someone could tell me what was broken i would be glad to try to figure something out |
| 14:31.28 | Supaplex | did you check bts? |
| 14:32.28 | formorer | heh_v_water: ah, -ng got renamed to madwifi |
| 14:32.42 | formorer | heh_v_water: and the new package just didn't get it to testing |
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| 14:33.15 | heh_v_water | formorer, could you show me a link please because I looked at the madwifi change log and nowhere did it say that NG was moved to the original name |
| 14:33.15 | formorer | heh_v_water: it should migrate into 2 days |
| 14:33.47 | heh_v_water | formeorer, ty now i understand and am a happy debian geek again :D |
| 14:33.49 | formorer | heh_v_water: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/non-free/m/madwifi/madwifi_0.svnr1644.0.9.0-2/changelog |
| 14:34.00 | Supaplex | heh_v_water: was that the upstream madwifi page, or debians' ? |
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| 14:34.28 | heh_v_water | Supaplex, I believe i was looking at the madwifi package for debian in etch |
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| 14:35.06 | heh_v_water | formorer, ahh I missed it there, that was the first place I looked too |
| 14:35.13 | Pimpinella | hi |
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| 14:36.03 | heh_v_water | "The old madwifi codebase has |
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| 14:36.44 | rohan | is there any place i can get kopete 0.12 for deb sid ? |
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| 14:38.08 | formorer | isn't kopete bundled in kde? so that the version should be 3.5...? |
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| 14:38.32 | rohan | formorer: yes, but there is an independant 0.12 available |
| 14:38.39 | rohan | thats newer than the one with kde 3.5.3 |
| 14:38.42 | Pimpinella | my printer doesn?t work nomore. cups tries to print to parallel:/dev/lp0, however according to cups the printer isn?t connected. /dev/lp0 doesn?t even exist foe some reason, it always used to be there, is it now udev?s job to create it? any idea what might be wrong |
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| 14:39.07 | Tassium | Pimpinella: Do you have the parallel driver module loaded? |
| 14:40.42 | Pimpinella | Tassium: is parallel the modules exact name? |
| 14:40.43 | junix-other | i'm having trouble with the Nvidia drivers and kernels 2.4.27 and 2.6.15, in unstable, can anyone help? |
| 14:41.41 | Pimpinella | Tassium: there?s parport_pc |
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| 14:42.00 | Pimpinella | Tassium: modprobe parallel fails |
| 14:42.22 | Tassium | Pimpinella: I think parport_pc is the one |
| 14:42.35 | Tassium | I don't use a parallel port myself, so I'm mostly going on instinct and memory here ;) |
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| 14:46.09 | Dewi | what does it mean when bjorn.haxx.se tells me that my favourite package "is not yet built on ia64" ? |
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| 14:46.31 | Dewi | it seems to be taking a lot of weeks for tightvncserver to be available in testing again |
| 14:46.43 | arron | why cant courier-imap find Maildir on my system? |
| 14:46.57 | stew | arron: which authdaemon are you using? |
| 14:47.03 | Pimpinella | Tassium: fixed, was module lp |
| 14:47.16 | Pimpinella | Tassium: ty, you helped me fixing it |
| 14:47.26 | arron | authdaemond.plain |
| 14:47.38 | Pimpinella | ~Tassium++ |
| 14:47.50 | jetscreamer | !test |
| 14:47.51 | dpkg | Yes, jetscreamer, you're still online. |
| 14:48.03 | Tassium | Pimpinella: Thanks, I'll remember that next time someone asks :) |
| 14:48.18 | stew | Dewi: it appears to be FTBFS: http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=ia64&pkg=tightvnc&ver=1.2.9-15 |
| 14:48.37 | stew | arron: where are your Maildirs? |
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| 14:48.56 | Dewi | stew: ftbfs? |
| 14:49.00 | stew | !ftbfs |
| 14:49.01 | dpkg | somebody said ftbfs was "fails to build from source" |
| 14:49.01 | arron | no idea =) |
| 14:49.26 | Dewi | stew: so... why does this kind of thing affect i386 anyway? |
| 14:49.28 | stew | arron: by default it will look for a maildir in ~user/Maildir |
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| 14:50.09 | stew | Dewi: becuase FTFBS makes it not a candidate for release, its a severity "Serious" bug |
| 14:50.11 | arron | if they are non-existant, will it not create them? |
| 14:50.22 | stew | arron: no, you must create them with maildirmake |
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| 14:50.28 | arron | ahhh |
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| 14:51.03 | Dewi | stew: the only problem it had previously was a slight dependancy badness. |
| 14:51.13 | Dewi | stew: I've been using it for years. |
| 14:51.45 | Dewi | stew: and there are no bugs > Important on bugs.debian.org |
| 14:52.26 | Dewi | stew: although that Important one does seem to be specific to AMD64... hmm |
| 14:53.03 | itchi | !fglrx |
| 14:53.06 | dpkg | fglrx is, like, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
| 14:53.35 | itchi | The fglrx-driver are missing on my system. I follow wht he tell |
| 14:53.51 | itchi | Have i misss somethings ? |
| 14:54.19 | stew | Dewi: maybe ia64 isn't a release arch. i thought that the autoobuilders file bugs automatically but maybe not |
| 14:54.34 | itchi | Or need i to follow what he tell about 'ati'. But that's for Sarge, i use Etch |
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| 14:55.09 | Dewi | stew: well, according to that page you mentioned even the autobuild hasn't run in a couple of weeks. |
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| 14:55.39 | stew | Dewi: it won't bother until a new upload is made. there is no point in trying to recompile the source that won't compile |
| 14:55.42 | itchi | If i get an working x with xorg; it would be already very well. 3D are an next step. First get x running |
| 14:55.46 | orjan | Is there a symlink (like CC ) that could be set so I can run a pthon program with 2.4 instaed of 2.3? |
| 14:55.58 | stew | itchi: which radeon chipset do you have? |
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| 14:56.28 | stew | orjan: no, don't mess with the python symlink, you'll break stuff. if you have a script that requires 2.4 then change the #!/usr/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/python2.4 |
| 14:56.41 | itchi | stew, an 9600SE |
| 14:56.53 | stew | itchi: yeah then you need fglrx unfortunately |
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| 14:57.30 | itchi | stew, I try to get it working with vga; but i allso fail in it :-/ |
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| 14:57.42 | stew | itchi: what do you mean by "with vga" |
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| 14:57.58 | itchi | stew, That simply universall?? driver |
| 14:58.16 | itchi | stew, To get x working |
| 14:58.54 | itchi | stew, But i have no example of an working xorg file |
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| 14:59.07 | orjan | stew: it starts with #!/usr/bin/env python |
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| 14:59.36 | itchi | stew, fglrx-driver is missing on my etch box. Is it normal? |
| 15:00.19 | itchi | orjan, put there env python2.4 ?? in each file? |
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| 15:00.43 | orjan | itchi: ok will try |
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| 15:01.15 | cyzie | hi all, i have 2 NICs. eth0 is builtin NIC. eth1 is a pci card. after i reboot the pc, my eth0 not appear anymore. please help |
| 15:01.31 | itchi | cyzie, ifconfig -a |
| 15:01.56 | cyzie | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:02.04 | stew | itchi: you mean "vesa" not "vga" i think. i don't know about fglrx |
| 15:02.12 | avaruus | itchi: i think it's normal. and i haven't gotten fglrx working in etch after upgrading xorg6.9 to 7 |
| 15:02.22 | stew | orjan: yeah, just change python to python2.4 |
| 15:02.45 | orjan | itchi: then it stops when trying to load a module: ImportError: No module named MMA.gbl |
| 15:02.46 | itchi | stew, oh, been possible; i try with that one ;-) |
| 15:03.10 | itchi | orjan, i guess you need to install that module for python2.4 if available :-/ |
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| 15:03.46 | itchi | orjan, look to the top of you source 'import blablabla', which module ? |
| 15:03.46 | avaruus | itchi: i haven't got dri working actually |
| 15:04.01 | wam | heartbeat together with linux-vserver and a syncing-daemon is so damn cool ;) Just wanted to mention ;) |
| 15:04.03 | cyzie | anybody knows? |
| 15:04.04 | orjan | itchi: the program is not from a .deb. It had an own install. Where to install a 2.4 module? |
| 15:04.21 | kados | I'm running debian sarge, and just added a testing source to my sources.list, trying to build-dep madwifi-ng and I get: |
| 15:04.24 | kados | E: Build-Depends dependency for madwifi cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package debhelper can satisfy version requirements |
| 15:04.31 | kados | anyone have any ideas how to fix this? |
| 15:04.52 | itchi | avaruus, aaaiii i migrated this box to get the lastest Flight Gears Simulator; So that i can play and build some planes :-( But we see |
| 15:05.03 | MoDaX | kados: install debhelper from backports.org |
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| 15:05.51 | avaruus | itchi: yea, i'd need to do stuff with blender.. |
| 15:06.13 | itchi | orjan, site-packages |
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| 15:06.38 | cyzie | hi all, i have 2 NICs. eth0 is builtin NIC. eth1 is a pci card. after i reboot the pc, my eth0 not appear anymore. please help |
| 15:06.54 | itchi | orjan, look to the output of 'dpkg -L python2.4', i want that you search a bit, that help you to learn a bit |
| 15:07.10 | itchi | orjan, Let it know if you not find it |
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| 15:08.05 | orjan | itchi: ok |
| 15:08.13 | blondie | cyzie: where doesn't it appear? if you run "ifconfig eth0" does it show information about it? |
| 15:08.21 | Tassium | cyzie: Check to make sure the module required for the card is loaded. Make sure /etc/network/interfaces has that interface defined |
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| 15:09.18 | avaruus | itchi: i think the problem with dri is because of the driver-files have moved away from X11R6-directory |
| 15:09.27 | cyzie | blondie, no |
| 15:09.42 | itchi | avaruus, I can not find the fglrx-driver :-/ |
| 15:09.57 | avaruus | itchi: oh, and that's not even in etch |
| 15:10.09 | avaruus | itchi: i tried wit atis own package and sid packages |
| 15:10.12 | avaruus | itchi: with |
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| 15:10.35 | blondie | cyzie: did you have to "modprobe" to get it to work before? |
| 15:11.05 | orjan | itchi: the program stored in /usr/local/share a /include, /lib and /modules, should all be put in site-packages? |
| 15:11.29 | cyzie | blondie, it was wroking fien both nics before i reboot my system just now. |
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| 15:12.44 | itchi | orjan, Sorry i'm a bit bussy /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ |
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| 15:12.49 | blondie | cyzie: dmesg | grep eth0 |
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| 15:13.15 | cyzie | blondie, no result |
| 15:13.26 | anabain | ipconfig-all is a linux command? |
| 15:13.26 | itchi | orjan, but normally you need to do somethings like 'python install setup.py' |
| 15:13.46 | blondie | cyzie: does "lspci" list it? |
| 15:13.48 | itchi | orjan, Or place it be the hand; the hard way |
| 15:13.57 | blondie | ("Ethernet controller" or similar) |
| 15:14.19 | cyzie | blondie, lspci | grep -i ethernet |
| 15:14.19 | cyzie | 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) |
| 15:14.32 | blondie | is that the right one? |
| 15:14.33 | cyzie | that is one of the NIC cards. i have 2 NICs |
| 15:14.53 | cyzie | blondie, how to verify ? |
| 15:15.04 | itchi | orjan, Find it ? |
| 15:15.05 | blondie | well it should show 2 anyway |
| 15:15.08 | anabain | anyway, how can I get the MAC address of a wireless PCI card? |
| 15:15.12 | blondie | switch the power off and back on again |
| 15:15.14 | cyzie | blondie, it should be because im using that NIC to coneect to my adsl modem so i can using irc/http now |
| 15:15.18 | blondie | (at the mains) |
| 15:15.46 | cyzie | blondie, i cant switch it off or on now. it is running and im using this box |
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| 15:16.38 | blondie | well, if it's not detected by dmesg you won't get it to work.. I don't think there's much else you can try unless you do switch it off and back on |
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| 15:19.11 | Detox | hew folks , am DL'ing etch net isntall cd ,, want to set up a web server to learn how to do it,,, question is this: should I jsut keep one big partition or bust it up into root home and var? |
| 15:19.42 | Detox | (and of course swap) |
| 15:19.53 | Tassium | Detox: If it's your first install and you're just doing it to learn.. Go with one big partition and a swap partition. |
| 15:20.03 | cyzie | blondie, okay |
| 15:20.33 | Detox | ok,,, now ,, I dl'd it a few days ago and burned iso at 8x did md5sum to verify |
| 15:20.57 | Detox | it installs ok but get error of not finding filesysm after reboot from istalling |
| 15:21.05 | itchi | Is there some else an example of an xorg file for Etch. With 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' i can not select the video card, the monitor etc |
| 15:21.43 | Detox | am i messing up somehow or should I reburn at slower speed or ? |
| 15:22.05 | itchi | Detox, no burn error |
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| 15:22.13 | cyzie | anyone know how do i reload the modules? 8139too , 8139cp and mii ?? |
| 15:22.31 | itchi | Detox, Is there another partition ? The boot partition need to be are in the first 1024?? sectors |
| 15:22.36 | Serinity | cyzie, rmmod, then modprobe ? |
| 15:22.42 | Detox | ok what is the issue with no file system found then? |
| 15:22.52 | cyzie | Serinity, thanks |
| 15:23.01 | Serinity | cyzie, you're welcome |
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| 15:23.05 | Detox | I used a dos boot floppy and fisk'd it |
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| 15:23.21 | Detox | should I run gpateded form cd instead? |
| 15:23.27 | itchi | Detox, What? |
| 15:23.37 | Serinity | -v |
| 15:23.53 | itchi | Detox, fdisk i guess?? |
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| 15:24.05 | Detox | thought it would be good to use |
| 15:24.23 | itchi | Detox, Is there another os on that HDD ? |
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| 15:25.20 | cyzie | bbl |
| 15:25.33 | Detox | your recommendation to just one big partition ,,, is that due to my lack of knowledge? or? |
| 15:26.16 | petemc | theres nothing with using one big partition nowadays... |
| 15:26.19 | itchi | Detox, a bit, but it will solved; We are not born with all the knowledges :-/ |
| 15:26.20 | petemc | +wrong |
| 15:26.28 | Detox | haha |
| 15:26.50 | itchi | Detox, You're swap, how big is it ?. |
| 15:27.03 | Detox | I am ok with setting up partitions but if you feel as a novice web server person one big one is better then that is what i will do |
| 15:27.16 | Detox | swap will probably be 1024 |
| 15:27.35 | Detox | or can i get by with 512? |
| 15:27.36 | itchi | Detox, Is that other partition with the boot flag? |
| 15:27.53 | Detox | i am using gparted now to look at partitions |
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| 15:28.11 | itchi | Detox, Yes, look that the / have been the bootflag |
| 15:28.13 | Detox | swap is in extended |
| 15:28.32 | Detox | am deleteing all partitions |
| 15:28.43 | Detox | and try fresh |
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| 15:29.10 | itchi | Detox, Yeah give it a shoot ;-) and retry; the best way to learn; practice |
| 15:29.41 | itchi | Detox, And ....... don't give up man ;-° |
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| 15:32.03 | fantomas | Is there a tool for blocking X session? (I use fluxbox) |
| 15:32.28 | formorer | blocking? |
| 15:32.38 | formorer | do you mean "locking"? |
| 15:32.46 | fantomas | formorer: yeah! thats it |
| 15:32.51 | fantomas | locking :) |
| 15:33.26 | formorer | fantomas: xlockmore, xscreensaver, xautolock |
| 15:34.05 | junix-other | i'm having trouble with the Nvidia drivers and kernels 2.4.27 and 2.6.15, in unstable, can anyone help? |
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| 15:35.29 | fantomas | junix-other: not sure I can help, just few questions: 1) are you using original Nvidia dirvers? 2) if yes, are they successfuly compiled? |
| 15:35.58 | fantomas | formorer: thanks |
| 15:36.20 | cahoot | fantomas: aren't nvidia divers alwsays compiled i e no src delivered? |
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| 15:37.06 | solemnwarning | I'm using a PS/2 keyboard on here atm |
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| 15:37.27 | fantomas | cahoot: I think there are stuff which is not binary, otherwise how they could loaded in custom kernel? |
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| 15:37.40 | solemnwarning | Would it be possible to connect to USB keyboard and have any keypresses from the USB keyboard sent to a FIFO and not act like a normal keyboard? |
| 15:38.03 | solemnwarning | I want the USB keyboard to just execute commands for when I'm in ut/ect |
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| 15:38.29 | fantomas | cahoot: at least when I install drivers installed first tries to download something 'precomplied' from somewhere and when fails starts to 'compile' something :) |
| 15:38.40 | fantomas | s/installed/installer/ |
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| 15:41.10 | Sivik | is there a way to translate a page in firefox |
| 15:41.48 | dabreegster | You could always use Google Translate. I'm sure there's a sidebar feature that can automate that. May not be the best solution. |
| 15:41.49 | petemc | google |
| 15:42.37 | Sivik | ok |
| 15:42.46 | Spec | altavista has translating services as well |
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| 15:43.00 | fantomas | all translators are shit |
| 15:43.20 | simonrvn | only humans do it well |
| 15:43.25 | fantomas | true |
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| 15:43.41 | Spec | i never said they were good |
| 15:43.51 | Spec | but the babel fish (HG2TG) is a superior translator |
| 15:44.11 | Sivik | what is the babel fish? |
| 15:44.17 | fantomas | Sivik: google |
| 15:44.20 | fantomas | :) |
| 15:44.21 | Ronin | Sivik: google |
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| 15:44.23 | Ronin | heh |
| 15:44.25 | simonrvn | google hitchhiker's guide |
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| 15:46.24 | Sivik | fantomas: google the babel fish? |
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| 15:46.50 | Ronin | Sivik: google babelfish and bablefish + hitchhikers guide |
| 15:46.58 | fantomas | Sivik: yes, it is famous thing, so it probably will be among first matches |
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| 15:51.34 | MatBoy | Great those guys that are telling that they are in IT-security and work with the FBI and big Banks and just run IRC on their LAB-systems :p |
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| 15:52.06 | Edward_TLS | Machine check events logged <-- I got this error and after a few sec the server crashed.... |
| 15:52.13 | Edward_TLS | any clue... ? |
| 15:52.17 | fantomas | MatBoy: they run irssi, nothing to afraid of ;) |
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| 15:53.46 | Sivik | after all that work, that page didn't help me |
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| 15:54.33 | Sivik | anyone here play quake2 |
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| 15:54.59 | Ronin | Sivik: what page? and im sure we all have at one point or another played it |
| 15:55.17 | Sivik | Ronin: well, i'm getting errors with my sound |
| 15:55.21 | Sivik | in that game |
| 15:55.23 | MatBoy | fantomas, hehe, as long as the person says that asking about a huge solution is wasting money for a company... I can't take the guy serious... He maybe thinks he knows the whole wide world :) |
| 15:55.35 | Bitz | which one should i run to check the ext3 filesystem partition fsck or fsck.ext3 and what is the different? |
| 15:55.54 | DerJamster | fsck.ext3 is just a frontend for fsck, I think. |
| 15:56.02 | DerJamster | just run fsck.ext3 |
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| 15:57.28 | nbt | why playing mp3's from cd make noatun and other apps copy'em in hdd ? |
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| 16:02.27 | kepht | is FLTK2 available in debian? |
| 16:02.32 | cirdan | hey, is there any easy way to have apt chrooted in $HOME? |
| 16:02.48 | simonrvn | apt-get --help |
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| 16:03.17 | nbt | hi |
| 16:03.30 | nbt | there's a program to set the cdrom/dvdrom read speed ? |
| 16:03.46 | nbt | (in order not to make noise duirng movie playback) |
| 16:03.58 | cirdan | simonrvn: apt-get --help didn't |
| 16:04.28 | cirdan | nbt: setcd? |
| 16:06.13 | simonrvn | was thinking dpkg |
| 16:06.18 | simonrvn | of* |
| 16:06.30 | cirdan | simonrvn: i know i can override options, but no manpage tells me the options |
| 16:06.34 | cirdan | simonrvn: yeah :/ |
| 16:06.41 | cirdan | it's easy w/dpkg |
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| 16:07.49 | oceanborn | How to apply linux-patches-debian? Can't find docs about it.. |
| 16:08.25 | Ronin | oceanborn: linux-patches-debian? |
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| 16:09.04 | oceanborn | Ronin: package linux-patch-debian-2.6.17 |
| 16:09.13 | DJ_Stefan0 | Where is the php.conf located on debian 3.1 default install? |
| 16:09.17 | maikol | all my desktop files are gone, and i cant open the file manager. it says "starting..." then it closes. gnome desktop, any ideas? |
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| 16:09.33 | DJ_Stefan0 | i need to set my upload max size |
| 16:09.34 | MoDaX | nbt: setcd |
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| 16:12.47 | maikol | i cant right-click in the desktop area or create the selection sqaure either |
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| 16:16.54 | Sivik | anyone here have broadcom wireless card |
| 16:16.59 | itchi | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no more ask for the video card brand, monitor, resoltion,... How do you do to config it? |
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| 16:17.03 | nbt | MoDaX> works for dvd too ? |
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| 16:17.51 | MoDaX | nbt: no idea. the utility dates back to 2004. test it |
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| 16:18.23 | nbt | k |
| 16:19.30 | row | are there any programs I can apt-get install to calibtrate my crt colours etc? |
| 16:19.44 | nbt | other things : 1) using rubber band fx makes a nice square on desk but it lasts forever (until i press update) instead of disappear on mouse release; 2) the "dotted border after selecting an icon on desk is incomplete : can those be fix ?" |
| 16:19.51 | lepton | DJ_Stefan0: I think you mean php.ini. try /etc/php4/cgi |
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| 16:20.46 | MoDaX | row: kde control center has it. I guess gnome has it too |
| 16:21.04 | row | I use wmii, do you have the app names? |
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| 16:21.30 | MoDaX | !info displaycalibrator.app |
| 16:21.33 | dpkg | displaycalibrator.app: (Gamma calibration for GNUstep), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.7-2 (sid), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 340 kB |
| 16:21.44 | row | ta |
| 16:21.52 | MoDaX | row: try that one |
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| 16:22.59 | DJ_Stefan0 | lepton, no i dont coz ive modified that 1 already its still saying 2MB :P |
| 16:24.18 | Sivik | i need help getting an ap with broadcom wireless card |
| 16:24.54 | Spec | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.55 | dpkg | methinks bcm43xx is the broadcom 43xx series driver; originally available as a patch at http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/, it has been included in all kernels after 2.6.17-rc2. |
| 16:25.15 | Sivik | spec: i have already done that crap |
| 16:25.17 | Spec | i wonder who redefined that |
| 16:25.36 | Spec | hmm |
| 16:25.42 | Spec | Sivik: as an AP or trying to get an AP? |
| 16:25.55 | Sivik | Spec, as in Access Point: invalid |
| 16:26.05 | Spec | Sivik: what does /var/log/messages or dmesg say? |
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| 16:26.30 | Sivik | ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready |
| 16:26.43 | GaiaX11 | How do i get packages from testing in debian? Do i have to change stable for testing in the source.list? |
| 16:26.51 | Sivik | GaiaX11, yes |
| 16:27.14 | lepton | DJ_Stefan0: so debug it. figure out what .ini is being loaded |
| 16:27.15 | Sivik | Spec: it says the link is not ready |
| 16:27.15 | Spec | Sivik: have you tried setting the rate to 11M? |
| 16:27.22 | Sivik | Spec: it already is there |
| 16:27.28 | Spec | Sivik: essid to any? |
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| 16:27.45 | Spec | Sivik: or, rather, have you tried setting the essid to the APs essid? |
| 16:27.46 | Sivik | Spec: Bit Rate=11MB/s, essid:"linksys" |
| 16:27.56 | Sivik | Spec: yes, thats what it is currently on |
| 16:28.05 | Spec | Sivik: hmmm |
| 16:28.21 | Spec | Sivik: you're using bcm43xx? |
| 16:28.30 | Spec | Sivik: can you get it to work with ndiswrapper? |
| 16:28.35 | Sivik | Spec, yes, kernel 2.6.17, hell if i know |
| 16:28.47 | Sivik | Spec: it worked before, but now it isn't working |
| 16:28.57 | Sivik | Spec: never have done it with ndiswrapper |
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| 16:29.19 | AI_coder | On my gentoo box bash will autocomplete from the history with pg up key, how do I get that on debian? |
| 16:29.34 | Spec | Sivik: hmm, sorry, i don't know :-/ |
| 16:30.05 | superlinux | hello |
| 16:30.40 | nbt | how do i check if my os has support for ISA ' |
| 16:30.53 | superlinux | while reading in samba howto they say there is a web interface for CUPS printer system... how can I access it? |
| 16:31.17 | lepton | DJ_Stefan0: try your q in ##php |
| 16:32.38 | DJ_Stefan0 | no probz thanx anyways mate |
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| 16:33.37 | alnr | 2006-06-20 12:30:53Server version: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.1p1 Debian-3 |
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| 16:33.55 | alnr | sorry |
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| 16:34.18 | Sonderblade | how do you create a package that requires a dbms that the package should create a database in? |
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| 16:34.57 | row | bah I can't match the green top and bottom boxes, maybe my crt's colour is fucked up |
| 16:35.00 | Sonderblade | like a webabb that almost always need a database as a backend |
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| 16:35.36 | alnr | ssh server 'unexpectedly closed network connection' when trying key authentication from putty. any ideas? |
| 16:35.41 | neuro_damage | ok what's up with emacs-color-themes package not existing? |
| 16:35.54 | neuro_damage | http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki?ColorTheme#toc5 |
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| 16:36.02 | neuro_damage | anyone know where I can find this package? |
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| 16:36.47 | heh_v_water | neuro_damage, it is in testing I'm not sure about stable |
| 16:36.49 | yawg | why is it that whenever i go to gmail.com in firefox on my debian system, it causes firefox to crash (and not just firefox, all web browesers). is there a package i need to install that enables html java script or something |
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| 16:39.07 | neuro_damage | heh_v_water: how would I install something temp from there without edit sources.list? |
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| 16:40.36 | heh_v_water | someone in here should be able to tell you how to use backports I've never done it myself |
| 16:40.57 | neuro_damage | heh_v_water: it's not in backports |
| 16:41.07 | neuro_damage | heh_v_water: i tried apt-get -t sarge-backports install emacs-color-themes |
| 16:41.42 | neuro_damage | heh_v_water: i've just moved up to testing |
| 16:41.54 | heh_v_water | neuro_damage, the only other suggestion i have if your bent on running stable is to wait until "december or so" for etch to become stable |
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| 16:42.35 | neuro_damage | heh_v_water: nah i've moved to testing, screw it, what's the worst thing that could happen :p |
| 16:42.42 | itchi | Is there somethings similar as 'xclip'; but for when we are without x. I get pain on my ass to setup xorg; crazy to set it up :-/ |
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| 16:43.02 | heh_v_water | neuro_damage, something critical for your use will be broken |
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| 16:43.32 | itchi | Most error are now out. But it's not solved. An error still leave |
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| 16:43.51 | heh_v_water | neuro_damage, there IS a huge differnece from stable to testing fyi, xserver-xfree86 is all but gone and replaced by xorg |
| 16:44.01 | heh_v_water | for starters lol |
| 16:44.06 | itchi | itchi, Like that comp are without x; it's a bit pain on the head :-/ |
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| 16:46.12 | orjan | itchi: thanks for the help earlier. Solved by changing the bang-path in thr install prog |
| 16:46.44 | itchi | orjan, ;-) If you can help me to setup my xorg :-P |
| 16:47.14 | orjan | itchi: still on x86... |
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| 16:47.44 | itchi | orjan, I find it a bit easyer to setup, or i have miss somethings here :-/ |
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| 16:48.47 | itchi | eat time :-) |
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| 16:55.27 | mopri | hi, when i type 'date' i get the correct date/hour, but my mrtg is getting anther date.. 2 hours ahead, like US/eastern, i already did tzselect to put mine, and also put that on the .profile of root :S |
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| 17:02.41 | pollywog | I am using CUPS, and it seems I also need to install printer drivers on the client machines, is this so? |
| 17:02.56 | streuner | yes |
| 17:03.02 | pollywog | streuner: tnx |
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| 17:03.12 | pollywog | that explains the problem I am seeing |
| 17:03.14 | streuner | pollywog: look at linuxprinting.org for your driver |
| 17:03.28 | streuner | those drivers are packaged in debian... |
| 17:03.31 | pollywog | I know which driver I just have not installed it |
| 17:03.39 | streuner | ok |
| 17:03.42 | pollywog | it's foomatic hpij |
| 17:03.43 | RubenGA | Hi, I have debian using normal ext3, but I want to mount my vlm partitons from redhat, what is the way? |
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| 17:05.47 | guevolt | all the time i receive the msg " glibc detected free(): invalid next size (normal): 0x0812e970 " when i try connect to my ftp(proftpd). i was do the upgrade of this version of proftpd but the error not fix. How i can fix it ? |
| 17:06.21 | streuner | guevolt: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1' say? |
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| 17:07.09 | guevolt | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.5-6 GNU C Library |
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| 17:07.17 | RubenGA | Sorry |
| 17:07.25 | streuner | guevolt: check out BTS then. |
| 17:07.33 | guevolt | BTS? |
| 17:07.42 | streuner | !tell guevolt -about bts |
| 17:07.55 | RubenGA | What is the way to mount lvm partitions? now I under debian, I want to mounr lvm from fedora, any idea? |
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| 17:13.58 | ryan` | Is there a quick fix for the "fake start-stop-daemon called doing nothing" error when starting a service (just installed box) |
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| 17:18.07 | WoodyWoodpecker | RubenGA: They are block devices, just mount them as they were regular partitions. |
| 17:18.17 | WoodyWoodpecker | apt-get install lvm2 |
| 17:18.26 | RubenGA | mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/fedora ? |
| 17:18.33 | WoodyWoodpecker | yes |
| 17:19.06 | RubenGA | in knoppix is possible to install lvm2 (boot cd) ? I use boot cd since I change by error my lvm partition :( |
| 17:19.15 | WoodyWoodpecker | Well, actually it depends on how you set it up. If this is how you created them up, yes. |
| 17:19.34 | WoodyWoodpecker | RubenGA: no, not regulary |
| 17:19.50 | WoodyWoodpecker | You need a temporary write ability to install it |
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| 17:20.04 | WoodyWoodpecker | read about -o remount in man mount |
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| 17:25.36 | neuro_damage | I need help figruing out how to upgrade from XFree to Xorg, please |
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| 17:26.03 | MoDaX | !xorg69to7 |
| 17:26.03 | dpkg | from memory, xorg69to7 is http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7 |
| 17:26.05 | ns1 | is everything ok? |
| 17:26.12 | neuro_damage | ok ty |
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| 17:26.31 | RubenGA | WoodyWoodpecker: using mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/fedora tells me 'using fs type', using -t ext3 tells me 'bad partition or to maby partitions' :( |
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| 17:29.10 | WoodyWoodpecker | RubenGA: I didn't use lvm in ages. I consider reading the manuals, which would help :-/ Can't help you. |
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| 17:29.34 | WoodyWoodpecker | /usr/share/doc/lvm2 or something simular ^^ |
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| 17:30.38 | RHyS | doesnt the debian grub have splash image support? |
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| 17:31.27 | WoodyWoodpecker | RHyS: yes, but don't use it because of security issues. |
| 17:31.53 | RubenGA | WoodyWoodpecker: thanks, maybe this docs are in knoppix to |
| 17:32.02 | RHyS | security issues? |
| 17:32.26 | WoodyWoodpecker | RubenGA: I can't remember, maybe the device files are called different. |
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| 17:32.27 | Ronin | RHyS: splash screens? man who boots up that often and watches it :) |
| 17:32.35 | WoodyWoodpecker | RHyS: yes, read the man |
| 17:32.46 | RHyS | well, i dont think it works period. i compiled it from the source for the debian package, 0.9.5, and it doesnt work |
| 17:33.00 | RHyS | im using slackware, which is why i had to compile it if that matters |
| 17:33.03 | WoodyWoodpecker | RHyS: good, better if it doesn't work. |
| 17:33.05 | RHyS | and Ronin, because i can. |
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| 17:33.46 | RHyS | whats the big security issue? |
| 17:34.00 | Ronin | RHyS: wow, ok, all id care about is errors not pretty pictures :) |
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| 17:34.45 | RHyS | excuse me for wanting the functionality that windows seems to have without any trouble at all, and easily modified. |
| 17:35.10 | RHyS | but true |
| 17:35.16 | RHyS | it is just a pretty picture |
| 17:35.24 | RHyS | errors are more important |
| 17:35.47 | Ronin | RHyS: i wasnt actually trying to diss you, although it did sound that way, sorry |
| 17:36.00 | RHyS | i tried make modules, on compiling a 2.6 kernel, and it died at d12k.o |
| 17:36.20 | jelly | how can I make blootbot respond to "!something", in addition to "bot-nick: something"? |
| 17:36.29 | RHyS | eh. im learning everything i can, and splash on grub seems pretty easy |
| 17:36.50 | guevolt | streuner: i sent a mail to buglist. Do you know if the developers normally reply the mail ? |
| 17:37.06 | RubenGA | WoodyWoodpecker I have lvm10 |
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| 17:37.12 | RubenGA | maybe is too old |
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| 17:37.38 | streuner | guevolt: yes, they usually do. |
| 17:37.49 | guevolt | streuner: ok. thanks |
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| 17:38.00 | WoodyWoodpecker | RubenGA: Like I say, I didn't use it in ages. Read and you will know more than me. |
| 17:38.14 | RubenGA | thanks WoodyWoodpecker |
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| 17:38.56 | WoodyWoodpecker | RubenGA: /j #lvm |
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| 17:40.13 | lightcap | Is there any reason that the organizationName would *have* to be the same in both a CA and request? I'm following the howto at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/284 and getting an error when trying to set different CA and request orgNames |
| 17:40.59 | lightcap | I'm quite sure that I can just change the openssl.cnf policy section so it's no longer "match" for organizationName, but I'm concerned with whether or not that's something that's really done in practice. |
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| 17:50.19 | nwonknu | hi ive installed ndiswrapper following the instructions etc and ive got the driver installed etc saying the driver is present as well is wireless-tools however iwconfig does not list wlan0 ? |
| 17:50.43 | Spec | what does it list? |
| 17:50.48 | Spec | sometimes wireless devices are named eth0/eth1/eth2/etc |
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| 17:51.42 | nwonknu | naaa just lo and eth0 but the eth0 is my ethernet card |
| 17:53.02 | evilbulgarian | hi, so when i get delayed from previous errors when extracting a tar archive does that mean it just skipped over the files that it couldnt extract and continued to extract the rest? Or it just stops at the file? |
| 17:53.09 | Spec | nwonknu: what does ifconfig -a show? |
| 17:53.26 | nwonknu | Spec same eth0 and lo |
| 17:53.30 | Spec | nwonknu: also, tell me the output of: lsmod|grep -i ndis |
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| 17:55.04 | nwonknu | ndiswrapper 112308 0 [tg3] |
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| 17:59.07 | Spec | nwonknu: i don't know why it wouldn't display then :-/ |
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| 18:07.28 | itchi | Guys guys guys i give a ton of beer :-) My xorg are running. That was pain on my ass :-/ |
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| 18:08.54 | jade | is it possible to burn a CD with an iso image and cdrecord? |
| 18:09.37 | Aim_Here | Not only is it possible, that's exactly what iso images and cdrecord are for |
| 18:09.46 | Aim_Here | You may need a CD burner and a blank CD too of course |
| 18:09.48 | itchi | jade, I always use k3b |
| 18:10.20 | itchi | jade, Have you test it? You will love it :-P |
| 18:10.40 | Aim_Here | Good luck finding all the relevant arguments for cdrecord though.. |
| 18:11.09 | cahoot | jade: like cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc my.iso |
| 18:11.44 | Aim_Here | You might want driveropts=burnfree and some other stuff in there too |
| 18:13.28 | noid | just install k3b and get it done with |
| 18:13.32 | ktwilight | does anyone use apf? |
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| 18:13.49 | cahoot | noid: why ? |
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| 18:14.37 | cahoot | noid: especially since the question was how to use cdrecord plain |
| 18:14.48 | noid | cahoot: well, it doesn't require looking up arguments, so he can do it faster |
| 18:15.01 | biz | hello there, is there a way to connect and use the native built-in remote desktop stuff thats shipped within ms windows xp? or do i have to install any other vnc daemon on the winxp box? |
| 18:15.12 | cahoot | noid: ignorance is preferred? |
| 18:15.16 | blondie | biz: apt-get install rdesktop |
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| 18:15.29 | biz | blondie: thanks |
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| 18:16.01 | nwonknu- | hi ive installed ndiswrapper using the instructions supplied by this channel. i have installed my drivers saying driver found and hardware present. I have also installed wireless-tools. However when i do iwconfig it does not show wlan0 the module is loaded and its deinately not any of the other interfaces listed. Anyone any ideas??? |
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| 18:16.20 | madclicker | how can i see which program is using /dev/st0 ? |
| 18:16.20 | noid | cahoot: your point, I was just giving out the faster solution. Indeed, if what he wants is to learn, he should man cdrecord, but if he'd done that he wouldn't be asking that question in the first place, hence my answer |
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| 18:16.56 | biz | madclicker: lsof |
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| 18:18.37 | avaruus | itchi: do you have dri? |
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| 18:18.46 | alexandre | Hi, I am using debian testing. I plugged in a usb webcam and ... nothing. Where can I find easy doc on how to set up a web cam ? |
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| 18:19.23 | sepski | !webcam |
| 18:19.23 | dpkg | it has been said that webcam is a method to setup a webcam using Debian: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm |
| 18:19.41 | noid | alexandre: unofrtunately, not all webcams are supported |
| 18:19.54 | seb- | should i backport sid kernel if i want to try it on testing distro? |
| 18:19.54 | noid | unfortunately, rather |
| 18:20.25 | alexandre | noid: I got a logitech quickcam for notebooks pro. Do you know anything about that one ? |
| 18:20.34 | alexandre | sepski: thanks |
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| 18:23.40 | riot | since my last update, my xfonts are buggy - spacing isn't good anymore. Any hints? |
| 18:23.42 | noid | alexandre: check this out http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 18:27.07 | houn | Hello, #debian |
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| 18:27.14 | houn | Say, what package has agetty in it? |
| 18:27.39 | alexandre | noid: do you have any knowledge about it ? The link gives another link for logitech notebooks pro: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ and on that link it says support is halted :( |
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| 18:28.29 | cyzie | how to show amount of memory usage in top? i dont know percentage of memory |
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| 18:28.53 | Sivik | how do i update the time via a time server |
| 18:29.04 | formorer | apt-get install ntpdate |
| 18:29.21 | Sivik | i think its already installed |
| 18:29.24 | riot | is it possible to build modules like e.g. qc-usb using module-assistant? |
| 18:29.41 | Sivik | formorer, how do i update the time and date via that |
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| 18:29.52 | Sivik | or change my timezone |
| 18:30.24 | houn | Sivik: For a quick update, try: ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
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| 18:30.31 | cyzie | how to show amount of memory usage in top? i dont know percentage of memory |
| 18:30.46 | seb- | what is package to configure kernel? |
| 18:30.48 | streuner | riot: uh |
| 18:31.01 | streuner | riot: what model do you have? |
| 18:31.07 | Sivik | there we go, now its right |
| 18:31.31 | Sivik | houn, thans |
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| 18:32.39 | smacnay | Hi, I am installing a vanilla kernel (2.6.14) from the debian repository. I have set it up with the Sytem.map and bzImage files in /boot/ as System.map-2.6.14 and bzImage as vmlinuz-2.6.14, edited lilo, run lilo, and restarted. |
| 18:32.48 | houn | Anyone know a good Debian-centric guide on setting up a serial console? |
| 18:32.49 | smacnay | On restart, I got a VFS error: |
| 18:32.54 | streuner | riot: just get the latest source, it has everything you need in order to make the kernel module. |
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| 18:33.04 | streuner | riot: not from debian |
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| 18:33.07 | javiolo | hi |
| 18:33.16 | smacnay | VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or unknown-block(3,1) |
| 18:33.19 | javiolo | is there a deb package for freenx ? |
| 18:33.36 | smacnay | Please append correct "root=" boot option |
| 18:34.16 | smacnay | Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1) |
| 18:34.42 | smacnay | I assumed I had not selected ext2 fs as default but it is hard coded in the kernel. |
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| 18:35.11 | smacnay | Any suggestions as to where to start? btw, in lilo.conf - root=/dev/hda1 |
| 18:35.24 | nbt | hi, i've noticed a "lyrics" option in noatun config panel; but how do i use ? |
| 18:35.39 | Aim_Here | I hate that error. Is it a newly customised kernel? |
| 18:35.47 | smacnay | Aim_Here: me? |
| 18:35.51 | Aim_Here | smacnay, you. |
| 18:36.02 | smacnay | Aim_Here: yes, I just hand compiled it. |
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| 18:36.21 | |Fo|Ns | hi all |
| 18:36.26 | |Fo|Ns | I installed cupsys |
| 18:36.28 | smacnay | Aim_Here: all other hand builds have worked... with similar stettings. |
| 18:36.30 | streuner | smacnay: why not using an official kernel? |
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| 18:36.35 | |Fo|Ns | but I don't seem to be able to access the webserver |
| 18:36.40 | |Fo|Ns | and I don't know why |
| 18:36.50 | |Fo|Ns | the conf file seems to be fine |
| 18:36.50 | cyzie | how to show amount of memory usage in top? i dont know percentage of memory |
| 18:36.52 | Aim_Here | smacnay, have you made sure that the kernel can read your filesystems - it's best if the IDE chipset drivers and your root filesystem are compiled right into the kernel, as opposed to modules |
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| 18:37.04 | Aim_Here | smacnay, if there's an initrd line in there, it might have to come out |
| 18:37.08 | cahoot | |Fo|Ns: is cups running? |
| 18:37.17 | smacnay | streuner: the current .deb package of iptables is buggy with anything higher than 2.6.14 |
| 18:37.39 | smacnay | Aim_Here: maybe my ide controller modules is not harrd coded in... I will look at that first. |
| 18:37.39 | |Fo|Ns | cahoot, well I run it through /etc/init.d |
| 18:37.42 | Aim_Here | There's probably about 50 other causes of that error too, though |
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| 18:37.51 | |Fo|Ns | cahoot, ops, you seem to be right |
| 18:37.55 | tonsofpcs | anyone here have experience running HLDS? Will sarge run HLDS well, or should I grab sid or etch? |
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| 18:37.58 | |Fo|Ns | but I installed cupsys |
| 18:38.03 | smacnay | brb |
| 18:38.08 | nbt | hi, i've noticed a "lyrics" option in noatun config panel; but how do i use ? |
| 18:39.06 | smacnay | Aim_Here: the ATA/ATAPI/MFL/RLL branch was set as [M], not [*] |
| 18:39.18 | cahoot | |Fo|Ns: check the error_log |
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| 18:39.30 | noid | alexandre: no, i don't know much else, i have a simple logitech and i thought maybe your cam was supported there too. Anyway, the discontinued drivers from http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ maybe can do the trick, they are no longer supported but i've known them to work, so try getting those |
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| 18:39.36 | |Fo|Ns | cahoot, empty |
| 18:39.37 | |Fo|Ns | :S |
| 18:39.59 | |Fo|Ns | could it be that the starting script is wrong? |
| 18:40.26 | Aim_Here | Erm, well try it and see. I won't claim with any certainty that it'll fix stuff, since that panic has about 57 varieties of different causes |
| 18:40.36 | cahoot | |Fo|Ns: /etc/init.d/cupsys start gives no error? |
| 18:41.31 | |Fo|Ns | cahoot, no error |
| 18:42.02 | cahoot | |Fo|Ns: pgrep cups returns a pid? |
| 18:42.02 | alexandre | noid: working on it, thanks for your help |
| 18:42.10 | |Fo|Ns | sudo cupsd |
| 18:42.10 | |Fo|Ns | cupsd: Child exited with status 127! |
| 18:43.02 | smacnay | Aim_Here: I will try this... back if it doesn't work. |
| 18:43.09 | nbt | there's a way to listen winamp radio ? |
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| 18:43.16 | noid | alexandre: good luck, setting up webcams is sometimes painful |
| 18:43.47 | smacnay | streuner: And I would rather wait for the newer 1.3.5 iptables to come out in .deb repository than hand compile it myself. |
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| 18:44.12 | kimo | duh, a friend is asking if Linux has 'file screening' capability like win2003, where users cant save certain file extensions to a file server?! any ideas? |
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| 18:44.33 | blondie | kimo: not afaik, and that feature is pointless anyway |
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| 18:44.48 | blondie | you can just rename files to get round it -- it's not clever enough to look at the file contents |
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| 18:45.14 | cr3 | if anyone happens to be familiar with debhelp, I'm including the makefile.mk class and yet the binary file in my packages is not being generated in the build directory :( |
| 18:45.24 | cahoot | people are *that* devious? |
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| 18:47.02 | blondie | cahoot: well, most people are too stupid I suppose |
| 18:47.30 | blondie | the folder quotas are useful though |
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| 18:51.57 | kimo | Hi, anyway I can restrict the file types (extensions) saved to a network share? (a la Windows file screening?) |
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| 18:55.25 | blondie | kimo: you already asked that |
| 18:55.39 | fas3r | nobody have ti-89 calculator :) |
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| 18:56.35 | alexandre | I am trying to build a kernel module. I got only .c and .h files, no makefile. What would be the proper command to build it ? |
| 18:57.37 | kimo | blondie: I got d/c before I got any answer .. sorry, did anyone reply |
| 18:57.54 | tarzeau | apt popcon |
| 18:57.55 | apt | popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:58.36 | blondie | kimo: I replied 2 minutes before you /quit |
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| 18:59.17 | kimo | blondie: I was getting 170 lag in irssi! for some reason .. I didnt get your answer really |
| 18:59.45 | ricochet | anyone know of a utility that monitors a directory/files and runs some script when something changes? |
| 19:00.00 | blondie | kimo: well I think the answer is probably no... and also that restriction can easily be bypassed by renaming files :P |
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| 19:00.24 | kimo | ricochet: find -mtime && /bin/do_something |
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| 19:01.03 | krassy | i have mounted NTFS partition with these options in fstab : defaults,rw,nls=utf8,users , but i cant wiew the content of this partition when i am not root . WHAT IS WRONG ? |
| 19:01.15 | alexandre | kimo: you'll have to run the command in a loop for it to work. |
| 19:01.17 | epictetus | means DRI isn't working. |
| 19:01.39 | kimo | alexandre: yep ,, or rather a cron job |
| 19:01.46 | Kerr | blondie: doesn't famd do that? |
| 19:02.22 | blondie | Kerr: umm I think ricochet was asking that? :) |
| 19:02.23 | ricochet | kimo: hm. maybe in a script... I want it to check every 10 seconds or something. Will that be costly on a .. dir with like 200 megs of files and stuff? |
| 19:02.44 | Kerr | blondie: i was asking you 'cause i dun wanna suggest an answer when unsure |
| 19:02.45 | Kerr | !famd |
| 19:02.46 | dpkg | famd is, like, the File Alteration Monitor, a daemon that will notify you when any of a given list of files changes, or see, apt-cache show fam, or famd can make it more difficult to unmount devices |
| 19:02.55 | ricochet | sweet! |
| 19:03.19 | blondie | Kerr: ok, but I didn't know until I read the man page c.c |
| 19:03.32 | Kerr | i only know of famd because my pc is next to my desk, it likes to chew up cycles when i'm trying to sleep |
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| 19:03.37 | Kerr | >.> |
| 19:03.41 | Kerr | stupid loud famd |
| 19:03.43 | blondie | o.O |
| 19:03.57 | Kerr | next to my bed^ |
| 19:04.05 | vulture | Kerr: best alarm clock ever: default debian updatedb job which runs at about 0630 |
| 19:04.39 | Kerr | i have xmms's alarm plugin, wakes me up with the zephyr song by rhcp ^.^ |
| 19:04.49 | blondie | hmm |
| 19:05.05 | Kerr | famd = hey, lets see if we can make the disk drive sound like a jackhammer this morning |
| 19:05.20 | blondie | I could use my machine as an alarm, except I like to turn the speakers and other peripherals off at night |
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| 19:07.24 | alexandre | Anyone knows how to build pwc and pwcx from source ? |
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| 19:08.14 | wut | how do i give a user permission to read/write in a directory/all it's sub dirs? |
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| 19:08.39 | nbt | hi, gnome suddently dont'start just shwow a blank desktop with two blinking white bars at top and bottom of screen; can be fixesd ? |
| 19:09.28 | shutdownrunner | nbt:and it worked before. yes? so did you install/change/whatever anything? |
| 19:09.32 | alexandre | wut: chmod -r u+rw |
| 19:09.35 | ricochet | wut: chmod -R u+rw * |
| 19:09.43 | kolaje | i'm running ubuntu, and i'm wondering if there is a way to have it boot into console mode, and have me manually startx? |
| 19:09.52 | wut | thanks |
| 19:10.02 | jjazz | kolaje: There is, and the fine people in #ubuntu can tell you how. |
| 19:10.04 | alexandre | wut: listen ro ricochet |
| 19:10.04 | nbt | it worked i installed practically nothing |
| 19:10.25 | kolaje | jjazz: for some reason the ubuntu channel is #ubuntu-unregged and i can't send to the channel? |
| 19:10.46 | Kerr | rofl |
| 19:10.53 | jjazz | kolaje: Interesting. I can jon that channel just fine. |
| 19:10.57 | jjazz | kolaje: Try it again. |
| 19:11.05 | Kerr | telnet ascii-wm.net 2006 england v sweeden streamed in ascii |
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| 19:11.06 | Kerr | O.o |
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| 19:11.08 | kolaje | jjazz: i did, sorry i'll try reconnecting |
| 19:11.08 | wut | it's still giving me the "permission denied" when i try to move something into the dir |
| 19:11.11 | Ronin | kolaje: indentied users only? |
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| 19:11.35 | smacnay | is it hard to maks an initrd image from a vanilla source? |
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| 19:12.46 | nbt | triyng apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment says it will remove hotplug; can't do else ? |
| 19:12.52 | nbt | (keep hotplug) |
| 19:13.23 | smacnay | is it as simple as 'mkinitrd -o /boot/initrimage' |
| 19:13.28 | stew | nbt: no you cannot (assuming you are on testing/unstable) udev now replaces all ofthe hotplug functionality and conflicts with it, and g-d-e depends on gnome-volume-manager which depends on udev |
| 19:13.41 | stew | smacnay: what kernel version? |
| 19:13.44 | smacnay | Or is there more to what debian does with their kernels (like loadable modules and such)? |
| 19:13.51 | smacnay | stew: a 2.6.14 |
| 19:14.34 | stew | smacnay: i don't recall if that one works with mkinitrd, but in any case, it should be mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd-$version $version |
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| 19:15.08 | smacnay | stew: I couldn't find the appropriate kernel-headers for this kernel in debian.snapshot.net... there was a paaackage I downloaded and installed but all links in the /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-2-k7 were dead. |
| 19:15.08 | shutdownrunner | nbt:did you try apt-get install gnome-desktop? |
| 19:15.12 | smacnay | stew: thanks |
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| 19:15.41 | smacnay | stew: running mkinitrd will not adversely affect the kernel already compiled will it? |
| 19:15.41 | nbt | still says |
| 19:15.46 | nbt | it will remv hotplug |
| 19:15.47 | stew | smacnay: is there a reason you are using 2.6.14 and not 2.6.16? |
| 19:16.03 | Poker_ | please help me... someone know a program to restore deleted files??? |
| 19:16.08 | stew | nbt: yes. if you want gnome-volume-manager on testing/unstable you must use udev and not hotplug |
| 19:16.08 | smacnay | stew: iptables in debian does not work with kernels greater than 2.6.14 |
| 19:16.13 | shutdownrunner | nbt:so remove it |
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| 19:16.22 | nbt | er... i've sarge.... |
| 19:16.25 | stew | smacnay: it doesn't? is this a known bug? |
| 19:16.40 | stew | nbt: what does "apt-cache policy udev" say for Candidate? |
| 19:16.43 | smacnay | stew: seems to be known by the shorewall and iptables people. |
| 19:16.48 | stew | nbt: it sounds like you are getting something newer than stable |
| 19:17.16 | smacnay | stew: the problem is corrected when 1.3.5 iptables comes out... I just don't feel like hand compiling this. |
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| 19:18.02 | alexandre | how can I get the list of installed kernel module ? |
| 19:18.11 | stew | nbt: if you were on stable installing g-d-e would REQUIRE hotplug, on testing it would remove it |
| 19:18.15 | smacnay | alexandre: lsmod will show what is loaded |
| 19:18.22 | stew | alexandre: /sbin/modproe -l |
| 19:18.31 | stew | /sbin/modprobe rather |
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| 19:19.03 | alexandre | stew: thanks |
| 19:19.48 | alexandre | smacnay: I think insmod is just to install module :-) |
| 19:19.53 | smacnay | alexandre: yes |
| 19:20.29 | smacnay | alexandre: although, that has been supplanted by modprobe |
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| 19:20.40 | smacnay | alexandre: I typed 'lsmod' for listing loaded modules... not all modules available. |
| 19:20.46 | AI_coder | modprobe is a cleverer insmod |
| 19:21.08 | stew | !insmod |
| 19:21.08 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
| 19:21.42 | Poker_ | please help me... anyone know a program to restore deleted files??? |
| 19:21.51 | stew | Poker_: what filesystem are you using? |
| 19:22.08 | Poker_ | ext3 |
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| 19:22.29 | stew | Poker_: its not possible |
| 19:22.33 | wut | did you rm -rf /* as root? |
| 19:22.33 | AI_coder | bs |
| 19:22.48 | Poker_ | no chance? |
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| 19:22.53 | stew | Poker_: google for ext3 and undelete if you want to know why, but basically becuase of th journal it zeros out the inodes |
| 19:22.58 | Sivik | how do i get wine to regonize a mounted iso to be a cdrom drive |
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| 19:23.21 | stew | Poker_: you can try to reconstruct the files manually if you really know what you are doing by grepping the raw partition |
| 19:23.32 | alexandre | I loaded the module for my webcam. What app could I use to test it ? |
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| 19:23.44 | wut | how do i give user the same powers as root? |
| 19:24.03 | stew | wut: use sudo and give them root powers just for the commands the need |
| 19:24.04 | sepski | wut, install sudo |
| 19:24.22 | Poker_ | stew: do you know witch program can i use to grep the raw partition? |
| 19:24.30 | stew | Poker_: grep |
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| 19:24.35 | wut | i just need it for one directory |
| 19:24.51 | Poker_ | stew: thanks |
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| 19:25.26 | stew | Poker_: you would have to know the contents of the file, then you are going to search through all the bits on the entire partition for chunks of the file that you will need to reconstruct by hand |
| 19:25.48 | Ronin | Poker_: restore from backup? |
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| 19:26.24 | smacnay | here goes |
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| 19:26.43 | AI_coder | Yeah, try a : strings /dev/sda | grep "<Portions of the File>" |
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| 19:27.05 | shutdownrunner | alexandre:gnome meeting or whatever it is called now |
| 19:27.09 | houn | Sweet |
| 19:27.17 | houn | Serial Console FTW |
| 19:27.25 | smacnay | stew: ran the 'mkinitrd' command and see a new initrd file in boot. Appended it to lilo. I assume that the same vmlinuz-2.6.14 is used as is the /lib/modules/2.6.14 dir? |
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| 19:27.53 | Poker_ | stew: the problem is that i have to restore 10 GB of lost data....so i think that grep isn't a good idea.... |
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| 19:28.09 | nbt | hi, i tryed logging in gnome as a different user and works but how do i reset params for the one who doesn't ? |
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| 19:29.57 | alexandre | shutdownrunner: thanks |
| 19:30.20 | stew | Poker_: you won't be able to recover the data |
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| 19:31.56 | Poker_ | stew: but with a windows programm i saw some files...like some pictures... but it was a demo so i wasn't able to save the files it found...so i was looking for a linux program |
| 19:32.07 | alexandre | I got this error runing xawtv : http://pastebin.com/721652 |
| 19:32.21 | wut | how do i find a user's #uid? |
| 19:33.05 | stew | wut: "id username" |
| 19:33.12 | stew | wut: or "getent passwd username" |
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| 19:34.28 | tdn | How to I change my charset to danish iso8859-1? |
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| 19:35.29 | Eulex | tdn, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 19:36.04 | javiolo | hi |
| 19:36.09 | javiolo | anyone uses freenx ? |
| 19:36.59 | cinix | javiolo, yes |
| 19:37.04 | tdn | Eulex: I have already tried that. But here is the output: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=11. It does not work :( |
| 19:37.21 | javiolo | cinix Im looking for the deb packages, where did you get it ? |
| 19:38.36 | wut | how do i add a user to the sudoers group? |
| 19:39.22 | tdn | wut: visudo |
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| 19:40.38 | cinix | javiolo, the repository I used is long gone, haven't built a new package for a long time. I remember someone gave me the url in #freenx, you may try there. |
| 19:40.53 | javiolo | cinix ok thanks |
| 19:41.05 | Eulex | tdn, you will need to relogin. and you need to select the locale you want as the default locale. btw, why not use da_DK? :) |
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| 19:41.24 | javiolo | cinix #freenx is empty... |
| 19:41.26 | alexandre | my problem is coming from v4l-conf : http://pastebin.com/721672 . Everything has been installed via aptitude on a debian testing system |
| 19:41.41 | pha | what is better, to install from http or ftp? |
| 19:41.51 | tdn | Eulex: because I do not want to use UTF. |
| 19:41.54 | cinix | javiolo, maybe it was #nx :) sorry |
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| 19:42.22 | tdn | Eulex: if da_DK is iso8859-1, then it is ok with me. |
| 19:42.23 | Eulex | tdn, da_DK doesn't imply utf, you'd need to select da_DK.UTF-8 to get utf. |
| 19:42.33 | cinix | javiolo, have you tried the website? I remember when I tried they had links, they just where all dead. maybe it's been updated |
| 19:42.35 | pha | I'd guess http eh? |
| 19:42.39 | tdn | Eulex: but right now I cant write danish characters, because it is UTF. |
| 19:42.51 | tdn | Eulex: then how do I set it to da_DK? |
| 19:43.02 | javiolo | cinix Ive downloaded a package but it needs other packages, and I didnt find them.. |
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| 19:43.22 | Eulex | tdn, dpkg-reconfigure will prompt you for the default locale. you will need to relogin for it to take effect, though. |
| 19:43.23 | javiolo | cinix btw Im trying to test if the i386 version works on a ppc.. |
| 19:43.54 | tdn | Eulex: as you can see in the output I pasted - it does not prompt for anything. |
| 19:44.02 | cinix | javiolo, I think freenx is just a bunch of scripts, so it might be arch independent. it's the actualy nx libraries that you'll probably have to get ppc pacakge for |
| 19:44.33 | cinix | javiolo, which is from NX, and probably not hosted where you get freenx, it's kinda big. I don't have a working link anymore though |
| 19:44.36 | javiolo | cinix it needs nxagent |
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| 19:45.23 | Eulex | tdn, oh, didn't notice. run dpkg-reconfigure debconf and set the shell to be used to Dialog. |
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| 19:47.21 | cinix | javiolo, I found the nx_1.4.0.2 source debian package still on my system if you can't find a repository somewhere |
| 19:47.30 | Eulex | tdn, if that doesn't work, open up /var/cache/debconf/config.dat and set the Value: entry of debconf/frontend to Dialog |
| 19:47.38 | pha | I am installing debian on a peice of shit laptop, but I want X windows to work... can I select "Desktop environment" under Debian software selection or is it going to choose a bunch of irrelevent stuff that will just slow down my already slow laptop? |
| 19:47.54 | javiolo | cinix Ive downloaded nxagent but I dont know where to place it... |
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| 19:48.12 | tdn | Eulex: it was already set to dialog. |
| 19:48.18 | octoberdan | I'm thinking of throwing the majority of my computers into a cluster and forming a terminal server... What media should I use to connect them together? Ethernet with Cat5/6, Fiber...? |
| 19:48.45 | octoberdan | What are my options when it comes to that? |
| 19:48.46 | octoberdan | Anyone? |
| 19:48.49 | Eulex | tdn, hmm, that's strange. |
| 19:48.57 | tonsofpcs | custom direct bus connections of course ;) |
| 19:49.02 | tdn | Eulex: yeah. |
| 19:49.11 | tonsofpcs | PCI ;) |
| 19:49.18 | Eulex | tdn, sorry, dunno why it would to that then... what debian are you running? |
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| 19:49.38 | tdn | Eulex: I have this problem on several machines. Both Debian and Ubuntu (yeah I know it is not Debian, but the problem occurs there too). |
| 19:49.40 | amphi | pha: I would avoid tasksel, and just install what you need |
| 19:49.42 | cinix | javiolo, it's not just a debian package? |
| 19:49.46 | tdn | Eulex: I am running stable. |
| 19:49.47 | cinix | javiolo, http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/unstable/pool/nx/n/nx/ |
| 19:50.10 | Eulex | tdn, hah, even more strange that it occurs on several machines with different distros |
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| 19:51.04 | tdn | Eulex: yes. |
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| 19:51.25 | alexandre | using gnomemeeting and xawtv , I get no error anymore, but the screen is just grey, What could I do or check ? |
| 19:51.32 | javiolo | cinix no... |
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| 19:52.09 | cinix | javiolo, well that link I sent you has packages for sid that you can just dpkg it, and if you are running sarge it has the source so you can build a package |
| 19:52.16 | yang | how do start logs enter into /var/log/boot ? |
| 19:52.40 | nvz | bah I thought I stored a url in dpkg but I guess I didnt :( looking for a place to look up music cds.. and ever since amazon bought cdnow.com it sucks :P |
| 19:53.22 | javiolo | cinix oh Im on ubuntu... :P |
| 19:53.27 | nvz | thats what they made google for.. heh |
| 19:53.48 | cinix | javiolo, s`ok those packages are for kanotix anyways :) it should work |
| 19:54.02 | javiolo | cinix ok thanks! |
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| 19:54.16 | cinix | javiolo, don't hate me if I'm wrong though, never used ubuntu |
| 19:54.28 | javiolo | cinix np! |
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| 19:54.47 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 19:54.48 | dpkg | Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux that is <Based on Debian>, please visit http://www.ubuntu.com/ and/or visit #ubuntu, on irc.freenode.net. Ask me about <Based On Debian> for an explanation of why we are unable to support Ubuntu here. |
| 19:56.07 | yang | how do start bootlogd on startup ? |
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| 19:57.05 | MoDaX | yang: edit /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 19:57.53 | yang | MoDaX: thanks |
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| 19:58.33 | javiolo | cinix agh cant install it wrong architecture... |
| 19:59.04 | MoDaX | javiolo: rebuild for your architecture |
| 19:59.46 | javiolo | MoDAx how can I do that ? |
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| 20:01.11 | MoDaX | javiolo: get the source, then rebuild with dpkg-buildpackage, debuild or even pbuilder |
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| 20:01.20 | nwonknu- | hi im trying to install a linux wireless driver from http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/ but it says it only works with kernel 2.6.8 im using debian sarge kernel 2.4.27 is there anything i can do except a kernel upgrade? |
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| 20:02.46 | MoDaX | nwonknu-: see section "Useful links" on that page |
| 20:02.50 | Blissex | nwonknu-: kernel upgrade... |
| 20:03.05 | nwonknu- | k cheers |
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| 20:03.39 | nwonknu- | with regards to a kernel upgrade i cant get the laptop on the net to get the upgrade |
| 20:03.53 | MoDaX | nwonknu-: btw, there is ipw2100-source package in stable. doesn't it work? |
| 20:04.16 | MoDaX | !info ipw2100-source sarge |
| 20:04.19 | dpkg | ipw2100-source: (source for the ipw2100 driver), section contrib/net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 134 kB, Installed size: 156 kB |
| 20:05.11 | nwonknu- | cheers i'll look into it thanx guys |
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| 20:12.32 | hjubal | hi |
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| 20:12.58 | Scorp1on | had anyone tried to set up XGL and compiz on debian? |
| 20:13.08 | javiolo | cinix seems is a hard work, I think Ill pass... |
| 20:13.26 | javiolo | Ill wait to a ppc version or ill come back to vnc |
| 20:15.29 | DerJamster | Scorp1on: supposedly packages are in the works by the X Strike Force. But other than that, I've not found any kind of unofficial repositories. |
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| 20:15.47 | Scorp1on | DerJamster, what about the ubuntu dapper ones? |
| 20:16.04 | Scorp1on | at http://xgl.compiz.info/ |
| 20:16.25 | DerJamster | Scorp1on: dunno. Could work, but Ubuntu and debian are, as far as I know, quite apart by now. They're not really the same distro, so compiling might actually be the safer option |
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| 20:17.05 | jelly | Scorp1on: have you tried "/msg dpkg xgl"? |
| 20:17.27 | Scorp1on | jelly, no, what does that do? |
| 20:17.34 | Bitz | fsck report continuous bad blocks, what is could be the problem and can this be fix? any suggestions |
| 20:17.40 | DarkCow | I've just put an ATi card in my system, configured X (Xorg 7) to use the fglrx drivers, but when I try to start X, I get the following: |
| 20:17.42 | DarkCow | dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: __glXActiveScreens |
| 20:17.42 | DarkCow | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so |
| 20:17.42 | DarkCow | (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (loader failed, 7) |
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| 20:18.09 | nbt | hi, what's the command to set ownership of files & folders ? |
| 20:18.27 | DarkCow | chown |
| 20:18.44 | DerJamster | DarkCow: depmod -a |
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| 20:18.51 | DarkCow | done it |
| 20:18.58 | DerJamster | then try again. |
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| 20:19.09 | DerJamster | if that does not work, try manually running modprobe fglrx as root |
| 20:19.12 | DerJamster | see what it says |
| 20:19.19 | DarkCow | that loads fine |
| 20:19.30 | DerJamster | okay, rmmod fglrx, and start X |
| 20:19.36 | DerJamster | as a normal user, that is |
| 20:19.44 | DarkCow | I have a feeling that it's to do with the fact that it's version 7 |
| 20:19.48 | DarkCow | okay, I'll try that |
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| 20:20.16 | jelly | Scorp1on: dpkg bot will tell you what it knows about xgl. there's not much there, but might be informative. |
| 20:20.17 | DarkCow | same thing |
| 20:20.30 | DerJamster | DarkCow: oh, well, yeah. xorg7 in Etch has problems with fglrx. |
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| 20:20.50 | crookshanks | my /dev/hdc disappeared when I upgraded linux-image, any ideas? |
| 20:20.55 | DerJamster | DarkCow: in Unstable I got it to work by using module-assistant and the fglrx-driver package, but those aren't in Etch yet, methinks. |
| 20:20.58 | MoDaX | !xgl |
| 20:20.58 | dpkg | hmm... xgl is the X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL and takes advantage of available accelerated 3D rendering hardware. It is designed to integrate well with the composite extension and performs best when a compositing manager is running.check http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease or ask me about "compiz" and "xgl-howto", or see http://getkororaa.com/ for a live-cd with xgl. see http://wiki.debian.org/Xgl |
| 20:21.06 | DarkCow | I'm in unstable |
| 20:21.16 | DerJamster | DarkCow: oh. well then, remove the fglrx module and drivers. |
| 20:21.20 | DarkCow | and I've installed fglrx-driver and its companions |
| 20:21.25 | DerJamster | DarkCow: then run module-assistant and use it to build the fglrx module |
| 20:21.28 | DerJamster | htm |
| 20:21.31 | DerJamster | hrm |
| 20:21.33 | DerJamster | hmhm.. |
| 20:21.39 | DerJamster | the X log still says the same thing? |
| 20:21.43 | DarkCow | yep |
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| 20:21.54 | DerJamster | And manually modprobing fglrx works? Very weird. |
| 20:22.00 | DarkCow | yes |
| 20:22.06 | jelly | how to make blootbot answer !stuff? |
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| 20:22.32 | DarkCow | Xorg 7 being modular, isn't it talking about an X module as opposed to a kernel module? |
| 20:22.48 | crookshanks | I swear I have the worst luck with debian stock kernels |
| 20:22.49 | MoDaX | DarkCow: which version of fglrx have you installed? |
| 20:22.56 | streuner | jelly: infobot.org |
| 20:23.07 | DarkCow | 8.24.8-1 |
| 20:23.21 | DerJamster | Yeah. the one in unstable..and it -should- work. |
| 20:23.23 | junix|work | what is wrong with 2.6.16-2-686, i cant' compile VMWARE with it. i keep getting this: The kernel defined by this directory of header files does not have the same |
| 20:23.23 | junix|work | address space size as your running kernel. |
| 20:23.26 | DerJamster | Especially since you can modprobe it.. |
| 20:23.45 | DarkCow | dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: __glXActiveScreens |
| 20:23.53 | DarkCow | that's the oline that stands out to me |
| 20:23.53 | MoDaX | DarkCow: that one should work. try reinstalling fglrx-driver |
| 20:24.05 | DerJamster | DarkCow: yeah, what MoDaX said. reinstall that thing. |
| 20:24.06 | DarkCow | will do |
| 20:24.33 | MoDaX | DarkCow: or yet better rm /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so before reinstalling |
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| 20:25.18 | jelly | streuner: thanks |
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| 20:25.27 | DarkCow | still no luck |
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| 20:26.07 | DarkCow | apt-get remove --purge, checked that it wasn't there any more, reinstalled, and it's the same problem |
| 20:27.02 | DarkCow | I'm on 2.6.16-2-k7, by the way |
| 20:27.14 | MoDaX | DarkCow: do you have Load "glx" in section "Module" of xorg.conf? |
| 20:27.18 | DarkCow | yes |
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| 20:27.37 | MoDaX | DarkCow: and load dri? |
| 20:27.42 | DarkCow | yeah |
| 20:27.50 | DerJamster | MoDaX: shouldn't change the module loading problem. |
| 20:27.53 | DerJamster | Hmmh. |
| 20:28.03 | DerJamster | Perhaps the fglrx module is older. |
| 20:28.19 | MoDaX | DerJamster: it's not the kernel module failing |
| 20:28.30 | MoDaX | DerJamster: it's the X driver failing |
| 20:28.42 | DerJamster | MoDaX: perhaps it's failing because the module and the X driver are different versions? |
| 20:28.47 | DerJamster | That's the point I'm trying to make. |
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| 20:28.52 | DarkCow | X Window System Version 7.0.0 |
| 20:28.52 | DarkCow | Release Date: 21 December 2005 |
| 20:28.53 | DarkCow | X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0 |
| 20:28.53 | DarkCow | Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.12-1-686 i686 |
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| 20:29.30 | MoDaX | DarkCow: rmmod fglrx; move out of /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc and start server again |
| 20:29.59 | MoDaX | fglrx should work without kernel module. just without 3d accellaration |
| 20:30.16 | DerJamster | gotta remove /lib/modules/fglrx methinks |
| 20:30.17 | DarkCow | same message |
| 20:30.25 | DerJamster | DarkCow: rm -rf /lib/modules/fglrx, rmmod fglrx, then run module-assistant, select the fglrx-module and have it built again, run depmod -a, start X |
| 20:30.49 | DerJamster | If that doesn't work, I'm out of ideas. |
| 20:30.55 | DerJamster | (unless it's some weird X config) |
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| 20:31.20 | DarkCow | I ran Xorg -configure earlier on |
| 20:31.21 | MoDaX | DarkCow: do you have Load extmod in xorg.conf? |
| 20:31.32 | DarkCow | yep |
| 20:31.40 | MoDaX | DarkCow: comment it out |
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| 20:32.07 | DarkCow | same thing :-/ |
| 20:32.18 | DerJamster | DarkCow: did you rebuild fglrx? |
| 20:32.28 | DerJamster | if yes...lemme put my xorg conf on a nopaste site.. |
| 20:33.04 | DarkCow | It's not a kernel module problem |
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| 20:33.19 | DarkCow | because X complains that it can't even load the X module |
| 20:33.53 | DerJamster | 22:28 < DerJamster> perhaps it's failing because the module and the X driver are different versions |
| 20:34.12 | MoDaX | DerJamster: no. it would say so in the logs |
| 20:34.55 | DarkCow | I built the kernel module with the fglrx-kernel-src from the apt repos |
| 20:34.57 | crookshanks | when I upgraded linux-image, my /dev/hdc disappears (along with /dev/cdrom, etc); doesn't even show up in dmesg. Any ideas? |
| 20:36.00 | DarkCow | downgrade your linux-image? |
| 20:36.15 | crookshanks | heh, yeah, i might |
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| 20:36.28 | DarkCow | it appears in the BIOS, right? |
| 20:36.29 | crookshanks | everytime i've tried the stock debian kernel i've had problems |
| 20:36.32 | crookshanks | yes |
| 20:36.48 | DarkCow | odd |
| 20:37.15 | MoDaX | DarkCow: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core |
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| 20:37.40 | DarkCow | 1.0.2-8 |
| 20:37.51 | DerJamster | DarkCow: http://phpfi.com/124814 |
| 20:38.13 | MoDaX | DarkCow: that symbol is in libglx.so |
| 20:38.21 | DerJamster | my config. The only things you should need to change are keyboard layout (us I assume), monitor frequencies, and the PCI number of the graphics card (lspci) |
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| 20:38.46 | DerJamster | it holds a huge chunk of the ATI parameters |
| 20:38.51 | MoDaX | DarkCow: did you paste your xorg somewhere? |
| 20:38.55 | MoDaX | xorg.con |
| 20:38.56 | MoDaX | f |
| 20:38.57 | DarkCow | not yet |
| 20:38.59 | DarkCow | let me |
| 20:40.20 | DarkCow | http://rafb.net/paste/results/7cJD2E44.html |
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| 20:41.50 | DarkCow | DerJamster, same thing with your config |
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| 20:42.49 | MoDaX | DarkCow: reinstall xserver-xorg-core |
| 20:42.51 | yanis | it's the second time I have the same problem with apt-get.everything I do it warnes me : E: The package libhtml-template-expr-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! |
| 20:42.58 | madclicker | does mutt have a gui for x? |
| 20:43.06 | Scorp1on | is debian testing stable enough for a desktop system? |
| 20:43.11 | lakez | is there a way to get debian to auto-sense that I've switched rj45's ? I've got adsl and cable at home.. i usually switch out the box when downloading to adsl and I have to shutdown -r now (for dhcp) .. I could screen ; sleep 100 ; dhclient xl0 but there should be a cleaner way |
| 20:43.25 | CovInHer | lakez: ifplugd |
| 20:43.53 | MoDaX | lakez: ifplugd or network-manager |
| 20:43.54 | USmarine | Scorp1on, i use testing |
| 20:44.10 | USmarine | i find some minor problems once i an while |
| 20:44.16 | Scorp1on | ok |
| 20:44.19 | lakez | thanks guys |
| 20:44.20 | Scorp1on | thats fair enough |
| 20:44.24 | lakez | going to look it up now |
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| 20:47.32 | stoned | what is the freenode help channel? I tried #freenode but it goes to #freenode-social and its +m |
| 20:47.34 | itchi | Hello happy hackers :-) |
| 20:48.00 | mbishop | ##bookmarks? |
| 20:48.00 | yanis | how do I fix a package in apt? |
| 20:48.05 | USmarine | stoned, tried #help ? |
| 20:48.24 | USmarine | yanis, try removing it |
| 20:48.41 | stoned | yes I did not |
| 20:48.43 | itchi | yanis: apt=get -f install |
| 20:48.44 | streuner | yanis: what does NOT work? |
| 20:48.44 | stoned | I mean no I did |
| 20:48.51 | madclicker | does mutt have a gui for x? |
| 20:48.54 | streuner | no |
| 20:49.10 | streuner | there is kmail, sylpheed and others |
| 20:49.14 | streuner | just try those |
| 20:49.15 | Gathond | madclicker, only it a terminal emulator counts:) |
| 20:49.17 | madclicker | any good quality mua's for X? |
| 20:49.23 | stoned | the ipv6 freenode isn't connecting. I can ping the ipv6 |
| 20:49.26 | streuner | sylpheed |
| 20:49.33 | yanis | streuner: I get this:"E: The package libhtml-template-expr-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it!" |
| 20:49.33 | Gathond | madclicker, imho no:) I just use mutt in Eterm |
| 20:49.41 | petemc | streuner: you're connected voer ipv6 now, no? |
| 20:49.43 | petemc | gah |
| 20:49.46 | petemc | stoned: ^^ |
| 20:49.50 | streuner | stoned: sounds like a question for #freenode |
| 20:49.52 | stoned | and when it does connect however |
| 20:49.58 | madclicker | Gathond, how do you read html messages? |
| 20:50.00 | stoned | it is extremely slow |
| 20:50.08 | stoned | ping is 300+ ms |
| 20:50.12 | Gathond | madclicker, I have mutt pipe them through links |
| 20:50.17 | stoned | sometimes 1.5 s |
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| 20:50.20 | yanis | USmarine: when I try to remove I get the same warning |
| 20:50.24 | Gathond | or Elinks I think actually |
| 20:50.31 | yanis | when I try -f install the same :( |
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| 20:50.35 | Solak | hmm, anyone here familiar with cgiwrap under debian? |
| 20:50.43 | itchi | yanis: What tell he |
| 20:50.58 | yanis | itchi: Building dependency tree... Done |
| 20:50.59 | yanis | E: The package libhtml-template-expr-perl is not ok and I don't know how to fix it! |
| 20:51.17 | DarkCow | MoDaX, YES! I think that worked! |
| 20:51.32 | yanis | I had exactly the same problem with another package some days before |
| 20:51.36 | DerJamster | DarkCow: whee :D |
| 20:51.44 | yanis | but I can't remember the command I used to fix it |
| 20:51.49 | petemc | madclicker: edit ~/.mailcap |
| 20:51.49 | itchi | yanis: Sarge? |
| 20:51.53 | yanis | something like reconfigure |
| 20:52.01 | DerJamster | DarkCow: now to check if you have accel. fgl_glxgears. Does it run? |
| 20:52.01 | yanis | itchi: ehm,ubuntu.. |
| 20:52.10 | itchi | yanis: dpkg-reconfigure <pkg> ?? |
| 20:52.16 | DarkCow | DerJamster, no |
| 20:52.18 | itchi | yanis: Hash :-/ |
| 20:52.24 | yanis | itchi: yes I think |
| 20:52.30 | DerJamster | DarkCow: darn. lsmod shows fglrx loaded? |
| 20:52.48 | yanis | in fact I guy had recommend: dpkg-reconfigure * |
| 20:53.03 | Sivik | anyone here play nwn linux client? |
| 20:53.09 | itchi | yanis: To reconfigure * things ?? |
| 20:53.13 | DarkCow | yeah, it does |
| 20:53.27 | DerJamster | DarkCow: hrm. exit X, rmmod fglrx, depmod -a ,start x |
| 20:53.37 | yanis | itchi: .. |
| 20:53.45 | itchi | yanis: I mean all, or config it only that package that are not configud. I not know about * |
| 20:53.45 | yanis | itchi: by the way ,check this: yanis@server:~/wiki20$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure libhtml-template-expr-perl |
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| 20:53.48 | yanis | Package `libhtml-template-expr-perl' is not installed and no info is available. |
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| 20:54.15 | itchi | yanis: So you need to install it? |
| 20:54.34 | MoDaX | yanis: dpkg -P libhtml-template-expr-perl |
| 20:54.39 | yanis | no I don't! but it gives the error I told you |
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| 20:55.12 | yanis | MoDaX: I get:dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove libhtml-template-expr-perl which isn't installed. |
| 20:55.14 | mikey_ | can anyone help me mount an mp3 player? |
| 20:55.43 | streuner | yes, but first install an official kernel. |
| 20:55.54 | itchi | mikey_: Plug it and play ;-) |
| 20:55.56 | yanis | maybe there is a problem with apt sources tree |
| 20:56.26 | mikey_ | itchi that doesn't work |
| 20:56.42 | yanis | damn it:I get again : Segmentation faulty tree... 0% |
| 20:56.50 | DarkCow | brb, loading X with fgrlx |
| 20:57.00 | itchi | mikey_: When pluged, see you somethings with 'lsusb'? |
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| 20:57.38 | streuner | mikey_: stop asking the same question at the same time in 2 different channel, its pretty unfair. |
| 20:57.39 | itchi | yanis: Try apt-get update |
| 20:57.56 | MoDaX | yanis: get the package from repository manually (wget etc) and dpkg -i it. then remove it |
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| 20:58.11 | streuner | mikey_: its YOUR fault if you using an custom kernel. |
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| 20:59.03 | mikey_ | uh ok |
| 20:59.16 | itchi | mikey_: Try that stock one ?? |
| 20:59.29 | yanis | itchi: It is still faulty |
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| 20:59.48 | EnterUserName | hi what would cause rsync to time out |
| 20:59.51 | EnterUserName | and having to restart it |
| 20:59.51 | mikey_ | i'm not using a custom kernel, but thanks for your insinuation |
| 20:59.52 | itchi | yanis: Like MoDaX say, looks an good solution ;-) |
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| 20:59.55 | yanis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.55 | EnterUserName | when the network is constant? |
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| 21:00.10 | streuner | mikey_: so what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 21:00.13 | itchi | yanis: Ubuntu :-/ |
| 21:00.32 | MoDaX | yanis: don't complain here about ubuntu |
| 21:00.34 | jelly | yanis: what's wrong with apt? |
| 21:00.48 | yanis | ... |
| 21:00.51 | phogg | mikey_: if you were to ask for help on something specific you might get more answers. Like "What device does player FOO by vendor BAR show up as?" or something |
| 21:01.13 | Eulex | jelly, that ubuntu has patched it? |
| 21:01.25 | itchi | mikey_: Yeah and the output of 'lsusb'? |
| 21:01.47 | mikey_ | phogg: I'm not sure i can get more specific than "can anyone help me get my mp3 player to mount" |
| 21:01.48 | mikey_ | Linux version 2.4.27-2-386 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-10)) #1 Wed Nov 30 21:38:51 JST 2005 |
| 21:01.48 | _huevo_ | there's something similar to ifrename for soundcards? that let you set which is you primary card.... |
| 21:02.20 | mikey_ | Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0781:7250 SanDisk Corp. |
| 21:02.24 | mikey_ | that's it |
| 21:02.36 | phogg | mikey_: sure you can. Start here: "I have an MP3 player which plugs in via ___ and I have plugged it in. I have looked in log filke __ and seen __ and also module ___ is|is not loaded." |
| 21:02.42 | itchi | mikey_: So it's already detected by the system |
| 21:02.44 | mikey_ | as in 'my mp3 player is a sandisk brand' |
| 21:02.44 | Sivik | anyone play nwn with the linux client? |
| 21:02.44 | streuner | mikey_: try another one, for example 2.6.15 or such |
| 21:02.57 | itchi | mikey_: Dmesg, give you some tips that's it's been loaded? |
| 21:03.05 | MoDaX | imho, apt segfaulting is a pretty critical |
| 21:03.07 | jelly | Eulex: hm. I wasn't aware yanis is running ubuntu, sorry. |
| 21:03.20 | phogg | _huevo_: change the symlink in /dev/ |
| 21:03.21 | mikey_ | en? |
| 21:03.24 | mikey_ | er |
| 21:03.27 | mikey_ | hub.c: new USB device 00:1f.4-2, assigned address 4 |
| 21:03.27 | mikey_ | usb.c: USB device 4 (vend/prod 0x781/0x7250) is not claimed by any active driver. |
| 21:03.47 | Eulex | jelly, hehe :) |
| 21:03.47 | _huevo_ | phogg: but it changes every time I boot |
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| 21:03.56 | itchi | mikey_: Okay, so you need somethings that mount automatically that filesystem or so when plugged? |
| 21:04.11 | phogg | _huevo_: your sound card shows up as a different device on each boot? |
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| 21:04.24 | mikey_ | itchi : yes |
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| 21:04.42 | cr3 | how can I extract the control information from a debian package? I tried dpkg -e file.deb, but that does nothing |
| 21:04.46 | itchi | mikey_: usbmount ?? |
| 21:04.56 | heh_v_water | _huevo_, are you using alsa? if so go to alsa site and read documentation about multiple sound cards |
| 21:04.56 | _huevo_ | phogg: yes sometimes my sounblaster live is the firs card and sometimes i the second one |
| 21:04.57 | mikey_ | but someone told me the 2.6 kernel with all that built in is a memory consumer, more so than 2.4, which i'm on limited resources |
| 21:05.07 | phogg | cr3: ls |
| 21:05.16 | mikey_ | is usbmount a module ? |
| 21:05.26 | itchi | mikey_: no, an app |
| 21:05.30 | jelly | cr3: dpkg -e file directory |
| 21:05.44 | streuner | mikey_: that shouldn't be an issue unless you running 128 MB RAM |
| 21:05.47 | phogg | _huevo_: you could disable your other card in the bios if this is a case of an onboard card you don't use. Otherwise I recommend looking into udev |
| 21:05.54 | cr3 | phogg: oups, thanks |
| 21:06.01 | itchi | mikey_: If you take the kernel 0.0.0.1, sure it's take less memorie. There are not many inside it :-/ |
| 21:06.14 | _huevo_ | phogg: i can't find any bios option o jumper in the mb |
| 21:06.16 | itchi | ie :-) |
| 21:06.40 | streuner | mikey_: How much RAM do you have? |
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| 21:06.49 | mikey_ | 256mb |
| 21:06.54 | phogg | _huevo_: sucky. Well, udev is the canonical solution to all device problems including yours. There may be another way. |
| 21:06.55 | heh_v_water | streuner. is there soemthing about 128MB ram that can cause problems with the 2.6 kernel? Cause I'm using it and the machine is stable |
| 21:06.56 | streuner | that's fine then |
| 21:06.57 | jelly | cr3: so if you plan to mess with the package and make a deb again, you can use dpkg -x foo.deb myfoo; dpkg -e foo.deb myfoo/DEBIAN; <mess>; dpkg -b myfoo . |
| 21:06.58 | itchi | mikey_: It's already fine |
| 21:07.03 | _huevo_ | phogg: ok i'll see udev |
| 21:07.17 | streuner | heh_v_water: nah, i meant less than 128 ;-) |
| 21:07.20 | phogg | mikey_: "limited" ram is < 8M, in my opinion |
| 21:07.24 | mikey_ | i went to install the 2.6 kernel and i think i screwed it up anyways |
| 21:07.54 | heh_v_water | streuner. oh ty, had me wondering if I was doing a moron maneuver and didn't know it :D |
| 21:08.07 | itchi | mikey_: Cambio with my P1 32 MB :-P |
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| 21:09.23 | mikey_ | what's the correct way to upgrade to a 2.6 kernel |
| 21:09.26 | heh_v_water | mikey_, I am running a 450mhz machine with apache, mysql, dns, dhcp, routing daemon, unrealircd, desktop with kde, and a voicemail system with absolutely no problems.. |
| 21:09.32 | heh_v_water | all on 128MB ram |
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| 21:10.01 | itchi | mikey_: apt-get it |
| 21:10.04 | mikey_ | k |
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| 21:10.13 | beardy | phogg: My box with limited ram works ok. Running Debian, dosemu with some game, and apple2 (emulator), and some bash:es. |
| 21:10.13 | itchi | mikey_: apt-cache search kernel image |
| 21:10.23 | charasky | 486 sx 1 k |
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| 21:10.36 | beardy | phogg: at the "same" time |
| 21:10.41 | itchi | mikey_: Right, that give you an long list |
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| 21:11.43 | beardy | phogg: It's not strictly limited though. 8192k and some swap. |
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| 21:12.04 | phogg | beardy: very cool. I remember the old minimum specs for Linux... 386 and 4M of RAM, 8M to also use X. |
| 21:12.53 | streuner | phogg: SLS 0.98 - kernel 0.99 ? :-) |
| 21:13.00 | itchi | phogg: I have many RAM in my P1 100 ..... 32MB |
| 21:13.18 | beardy | phogg: I haven't tried X on it, takes so long time to install things, dpkg is a real memory hog. :) Takes~atleast an hour of each run. |
| 21:13.21 | streuner | hm, you don't run Debian then :-) |
| 21:13.45 | streuner | or something like Hamm or Buzz :-) |
| 21:13.48 | itchi | fluxbox are running on it, some times ago, scratchi to bot was running on it :-P |
| 21:13.49 | beardy | -~ |
| 21:13.50 | phogg | streuner: I cannot recall--it was somewhere around 1.0 |
| 21:13.59 | itchi | s/to/the |
| 21:14.06 | Jemt | Greetings. I have been using Ubuntu Linux for almost a year now and have been quite pleased with it - but the most recent release is no longer working on my PC - so now i want to run plain Debian. I have downloaded the Minimal Installer CD and boots it on my laptop using my external USB CD-ROM drive. But all I get is a gray and black screen. Any suggestions? The installation CD dosn't support USB CD drives ? |
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| 21:14.43 | streuner | Jemt: read ig (/msg dpkg ig) |
| 21:14.51 | itchi | Jemt: You need to enter an special boot cheat code vga=ask |
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| 21:15.11 | beardy | Jemt: It may not. But if your bios does, it should to, or not.. Read the Installation Guide, as suggested. |
| 21:15.52 | streuner | !rube goldberg install |
| 21:15.52 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 21:16.06 | itchi | Jemt: Type in you're client '/msg dpkg ig' |
| 21:16.16 | itchi | Jemt: Without these 2 ' ' |
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| 21:16.22 | Jemt | I AM reading the installation guide - and I am never presented with a screen where I can type anything |
| 21:16.39 | streuner | nah, in your irc-client |
| 21:16.49 | streuner | !tell Jemt about ig |
| 21:16.52 | RHyS | is there a list of how packages are divided among the ISOs? |
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| 21:17.05 | phogg | RHyS: ls ? |
| 21:17.10 | Jemt | I AM reading the guide.. |
| 21:17.21 | itchi | Jemt: The first screen, where you can press F1, F2 or define to use the 'linux26' and not that default 24 |
| 21:17.45 | Jemt | I am never presented with a screen where I can type anything ! |
| 21:17.54 | Jemt | Are you reading my messages at all? |
| 21:17.58 | RHyS | as in, does the first ISO have enough for a base graphical? |
| 21:18.02 | heh_v_water | Jemt does the cd-rom wind up when you boot? |
| 21:18.04 | phogg | Jemt: so your system cannot boot from the install CD? |
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| 21:18.18 | Jemt | Yep, the CD spins for a while :) |
| 21:18.23 | itchi | Jemt: Yes |
| 21:18.27 | phogg | Jemt: Power on, POST, then... ? |
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| 21:18.37 | lordalbert | hello |
| 21:18.41 | Jemt | After POST I get a gray and black screen with no text |
| 21:18.52 | streuner | "USB CD-ROM drives are also supported, as are FireWire devices that are supported by the ohci1394 and sbp2 drivers." |
| 21:18.57 | Jemt | I have no problem installing ie. Ubuntu |
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| 21:19.05 | phogg | Jemt: and what do you get with no cd in the drive? |
| 21:19.07 | lordalbert | do you know a free web hosting service ? |
| 21:19.07 | dabreegster | Jemt: It's two colors? Is one of the colors used by some text, perhaps? |
| 21:19.27 | Jemt | phogg: Normal boot procedure - PC-BSD is started |
| 21:19.45 | phogg | Jemt: misburn of the disc, maybe? |
| 21:19.49 | Jemt | No, it is some sort of simple graphics. Gray background with a lot of black balls |
| 21:20.04 | Jemt | phogg: Well, that could be it. |
| 21:20.16 | itchi | Jemt: Which laptop brand and model? |
| 21:20.23 | Jemt | IBM Thinkpad X31 |
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| 21:20.36 | phogg | Jemt: it's worth trying since it's an easy fix. I recommend burning at the slowest possible speed. Only panic if a disc burnt that way does the same thing |
| 21:20.56 | jarango | Has the nvidia driver installation process changed since the introduction of the new xorg packages ? |
| 21:21.18 | Jemt | Ok. Well - I'll test the CD on another computer - BRB - and thanks :) |
| 21:21.23 | itchi | Jemt: Have you look at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/ibm.html ? |
| 21:22.46 | itchi | jemt ->> http://www.genacker.de/x31/install.html |
| 21:22.48 | itchi | but .... |
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| 21:23.52 | itchi | Right now, that 60Hz give pain on my eyes. I need to work a bit |
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| 21:24.33 | heh_v_water | what is the other irc server for debian irc.debian.org? |
| 21:24.56 | dabreegster | !tell heh_v_water about oftc move |
| 21:25.24 | itchi | Upgraded from Sarge to Etch 2 days ago. It was pain on this computer :-/ To many apps aready installed and that gave some pain to solve. But it's done. Xorg are also running now. Without glrx, but i hope it come. Now the refresh. That i could not setup |
| 21:25.35 | heh_v_water | ty |
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| 21:26.16 | heh_v_water | itchi, look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 21:26.24 | ktwilight | itchi, have you defined the vertical and horizontal? |
| 21:26.39 | itchi | dpkg-reconfigure xorg not give the choice to select an video card (using vesa), nor the resolution. With xfree it was peace of cake |
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| 21:27.22 | itchi | heh_v_water, ktwilight: Yes, i have defined these values and so. But i guess it's because i use that 'vesa' druver at 16 depth color |
| 21:28.16 | ktwilight | which graphics card do you have? |
| 21:28.22 | itchi | I need to get my Ati 9600Se working, Like dpkg know ('/msg dpkg ati'), it's easy to do for Sarge. Now need i to know how for Etch |
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| 21:28.39 | mikey_ | ok it recognizes it when i plug it in, but it won't auto mount it (probably because now i can't get xorg to start) |
| 21:28.39 | ktwilight | 'cuz i have the same problem with you too. it's stuck at 60hz even though i've defined vertical and horizontal |
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| 21:28.55 | ktwilight | hmm...i have nvidia. |
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| 21:29.38 | itchi | ktwilight: That's pain on the eyes. I already have bad one :-/ I not view with my left one. And that right ... :-/ |
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| 21:29.42 | Scorp1on | huch. es gibt unter debian kein nvidia-glx packet? |
| 21:29.57 | itchi | !de |
| 21:29.58 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.freenode.net und irc.oftc.net) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on freenode and irc.oftc.net) |
| 21:30.15 | itchi | or talk enlgish |
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| 21:30.28 | itchi | I mean try it :-P |
| 21:30.41 | streuner | Scorp1on: why? |
| 21:30.49 | streuner | !info nvidia-glx sarge |
| 21:30.51 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 2966 kB, Installed size: 9592 kB |
| 21:30.59 | ktwilight | itchi, quite true actually. somehow i think it's xorg's fault, but then i'm not 100% sure |
| 21:31.04 | itchi | ktwilight: On that other computer with nvidea it's on 75Mh, without 3D |
| 21:31.06 | streuner | Scorp1on: are you running etch? |
| 21:31.09 | Scorp1on | yes |
| 21:31.10 | grendal_prime | fk |
| 21:31.16 | ktwilight | xorg7 itchi? |
| 21:31.26 | itchi | ktwilight: Yes |
| 21:31.33 | grendal_prime | im trying to build a defaul contact list for a jabber server. |
| 21:31.37 | grendal_prime | default that is |
| 21:31.45 | streuner | Scorp1on: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 21:32.15 | ktwilight | itchi, so you've disabled RenderAccel and AllowGLXWithComposite? |
| 21:32.29 | itchi | ktwilight: I have not do that ^ |
| 21:32.43 | ktwilight | i'm lost then. what did you do? |
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| 21:33.15 | maxy | er... apt-get and aptitude both coredump on dist-upgrade? any pointers? |
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| 21:33.19 | startxwhite | i run sarge 2.6.8-2 and wanna use a wireless usb network adapter Linksys WUSB11 v2.6 (FCC ID: PKW WUSB11-V26) ATMEL AT76C503A chipset. i executed apt-get install atmel-firmware and edited fstab according to the readme file. i did reboot but it still does not work |
| 21:33.27 | itchi | ktwilight: No many :-/ Just migrated these box, with defaults values, i need to define the whole things. I think he get the values of Xfree86 |
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| 21:34.25 | ktwilight | itchi, is it nvidia module? or nv? |
| 21:35.02 | itchi | ktwilight: nv |
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| 21:35.21 | itchi | ktwilight: It's on another computer |
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| 21:35.29 | jeld | hello all |
| 21:35.30 | ktwilight | ahso, no wonder. |
| 21:35.47 | itchi | ktwilight: HorizSync 30-68 VertRefresh 50-85 |
| 21:36.00 | ktwilight | wow |
| 21:36.12 | ktwilight | yours goes up to 50-85?! |
| 21:36.13 | ktwilight | amazing |
| 21:36.27 | sime | I have a dpkg error and I dont know how to resolve it: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 21326 package `libgksuui1.0-0': |
| 21:36.27 | sime | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.47 | ktwilight | i'm wondering if it's the official nvidia that's giving me the problem. hmm...guessi have to continue to wait. :/ |
| 21:36.50 | itchi | ktwilight: Bwa, is not realy many i find. It's already 4 years i wait that someone pay me an big monitor with 100Hz :-) |
| 21:37.06 | dabreegster | sime: Check that line. Something modified that file and messed it up. |
| 21:37.28 | ktwilight | hehe :) |
| 21:37.44 | jeld | I am running a few LAMP boxes using testing branch, just today I upgraded one of the boxes to PHP 5.1.4 and found that there are some bad regressions, so I need to downgrade it back. That said, where can I get a copy of the 5.1.2 packages? I can probably build from the source, but I would prefer the original signed binary |
| 21:37.59 | ktwilight | patience seems to be common game |
| 21:38.00 | itchi | ktwilight: To get 3D, need we to follow an special procedure or xorg detect it ? |
| 21:38.13 | MatBoy | are there chipsets that are not supported in Debian ? |
| 21:38.18 | itchi | ktwilight: Yeah, here on the 60Hz :-/ |
| 21:38.22 | phogg | jeld: packages.debian.org |
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| 21:38.34 | itchi | MatBoy: Yes |
| 21:38.47 | ktwilight | itchi, i've no idea really. it's graphics card specific i think. you have to read the docs of your card |
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| 21:39.08 | MatBoy | Hey itchi ! OK, is it shown somewhere ? |
| 21:39.10 | ktwilight | itchi, i got mine from nvidia's official docs on how to set up xorg.conf after digging through some tips from google's sites |
| 21:39.11 | jeld | phogg, I wouldn't ask if it was that simple, they don't seem to archive versions though |
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| 21:39.36 | dylan_ | hi everyne |
| 21:39.37 | ktwilight | itchi, but i still can't find a solution to my limited 60hz :/ my monitor supports 80hz which i would love to have... |
| 21:39.41 | itchi | MatBoy: If you invent somethings now, or an lesser as an year ago, dev not know about it or have not work to build one ... |
| 21:39.43 | jeld | phogg, stable doesn't have any PHP 5 and both unstable and testing are 5.1.4 |
| 21:39.57 | itchi | ktwilight: Yes, sure |
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| 21:40.08 | itchi | ktwilight: Ok, i first try to fix that other box |
| 21:40.16 | ktwilight | aight :) |
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| 21:40.26 | dylan_ | When I play OGG music in any media playing app, why does it always become choppy for a second whenever i visit Digg or another image-heavy site? Sometimes this happens when i install apps, too |
| 21:40.29 | ktwilight | share hte answer when ya find it. :) |
| 21:41.07 | dabreegster | dylan_: Lag. If dpkg is crunching numbers here, my music'll skip. |
| 21:41.13 | itchi | dylan_: Limited resources?? |
| 21:41.13 | phogg | jeld: look in the pool: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/ |
| 21:41.17 | dabreegster | dylan_: If you absolutely can't stand it, give ogg123 higher priority |
| 21:41.23 | MatBoy | dylan_, hi ! |
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| 21:41.46 | dylan_ | dabreegster, i was just wondering. i mean, i just wanted to know because ubuntu does not do that. is it because the software is oold? |
| 21:41.54 | dylan_ | MatBoy, why did you just randomly say hi? |
| 21:42.19 | jeld | phogg, if you follow the link you posted you will see that only 5.1.4 binaries are there, 5.1.2 is only in sources |
| 21:42.24 | beardy | dylan_: No. That is not the reason. |
| 21:42.28 | MatBoy | dylan_, I thought you said "everyone" some lines before it :) |
| 21:42.42 | dylan_ | MatBoy, Oh yes I did. Hello! |
| 21:42.44 | dabreegster | dylan_: It just sounds like another program is doing intense calculations at that moment. |
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| 21:42.57 | MatBoy | dylan_, Hi ! Just a warm Hello :) |
| 21:43.11 | beardy | dylan_: They might automatically renice user processes. |
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| 21:43.20 | MatBoy | dylan_, you helped me some time ago with xorg and nvidia and XGL wasn;t it ? |
| 21:43.24 | beardy | dylan_: BUt ask #ubuntu about that, I don't know. |
| 21:43.42 | phogg | jeld: odd. Well, tried looking in your local package cache? Unless you cleared it or have it set to auto-clear it should still be there. |
| 21:43.47 | dylan_ | MatBoy, I do not remember. I get so much text-based messages a day I dont remember who I talked to. sorry. |
| 21:44.06 | dylan_ | dabreegster, but the occurrence is natural? |
| 21:44.08 | itchi | ktwilight: I have 'modprobe nvidia', change 'nv' to 'nvidia' and get an pink screen, nice, for my wife :-P |
| 21:44.08 | MatBoy | dylan_, haha, same here... that's why the question was :) |
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| 21:44.17 | jeld | phogg, yeah, tried that, I think cron-apt cleans the cache automagically :( |
| 21:44.34 | ktwilight | itchi, haha let's just hope she don't go bored with it haha |
| 21:45.07 | itchi | ktwilight: She probably not would find it nice, x not start it's looks :-/ |
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| 21:45.32 | ktwilight | just tell her it's the "in" thing |
| 21:46.00 | ktwilight | but itchi, since ya just upgrade, you would need to build the nvidia module again |
| 21:46.15 | itchi | ktwilight: Bwa, it's looks :-/ |
| 21:46.40 | ktwilight | yup |
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| 21:46.44 | _cyclops_ | hi all, i've been getting this XKB error about the gnome and xfree configuration differing... search google.. lot's of hits but non that really worked... any hints? |
| 21:46.55 | itchi | ktwilight: I need to remember ? It's a bit pain to get video cards working :-( |
| 21:46.59 | dylan_ | How long before the Debian development team synchronizes the stuff in unstable to stable? there are some apps i would like to see stable, because i only run Free/OSS stable apps |
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| 21:47.49 | ktwilight | itchi, that's why noting the steps down is helpful ;) |
| 21:47.57 | amphi | dylan_: testing will be the next stable |
| 21:47.59 | pha | erm how do I figure my horizontal and vertical sync rates? ddcprobe gives me a few "timings" and "ctimings"? |
| 21:48.11 | dylan_ | amphi, i thought unstable was better than testing? |
| 21:48.19 | ktwilight | itchi, but it's not that difficult...it's a 5mins job if ya know how |
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| 21:48.31 | _cyclops_ | pha, probably just by searching for the specs of your monitor... the manual always works... :S |
| 21:48.36 | amphi | !tell dylan_ about better |
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| 21:48.45 | itchi | ktwilight: If i been good remember with nvidea it was realy peace of cake. Downloading the driver of Nvidea... and follow there, but im not sure if it's the right way |
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| 21:48.52 | dylan_ | amphi, i meant more stable |
| 21:48.56 | pha | don't have the manual... specs online are vague :\ |
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| 21:49.05 | pha | its a laptop lcd, tecra 8100 |
| 21:49.06 | dylan_ | amphi, im sorry .. i shuold be more specific in the future |
| 21:49.10 | itchi | dylan_: no Etch is a bit stabler |
| 21:49.11 | _cyclops_ | pha, then your in trouble :) |
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| 21:49.46 | amphi | !tell dylan_ about stable |
| 21:49.50 | dylan_ | itchi, Etch meaning testing |
| 21:49.53 | pha | http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/tecra_8100.pdf doesn't help me |
| 21:50.00 | beardy | pha: Easiest is to look in your monitors manual, if you have it. Or google your monitors make/brand and model. |
| 21:50.08 | Oinz | Hi, i get the following Error during apt-get: http://phpfi.com/124820 How could i solve this Problem? |
| 21:50.11 | itchi | dylan_: From left to right Sarge(Stable), Etch (Testing), Sid(Always keep sid) |
| 21:50.18 | ktwilight | itchi, it is the right way |
| 21:50.18 | dylan_ | Stable is pretty much crash or hang-proof, right? |
| 21:50.22 | pha | beardy: that pdf is the manual |
| 21:50.29 | _cyclops_ | pha, http://aleph-null.tv/go.php?doc=20031112-1703-720.xml does that help? |
| 21:50.32 | ktwilight | itchi, but i think you have to define where the kernel source is, or download it first. something like that. |
| 21:50.47 | ktwilight | itchi, but i think just run the installer, if it doesn't work, remove it, then try again :P |
| 21:51.11 | pha | _cyclops_: probably, I'll try... thanks :) |
| 21:51.17 | itchi | ktwilight: Okay, so That driver that i have already download are good then, no need to redownload, an new one?? I was going to first do my computer with ati :-) |
| 21:51.21 | amphi | dylan_: it's rock-solid(tm) here, even with some backports |
| 21:51.36 | itchi | ktwilight: I mean that one that i have use for xfree |
| 21:51.40 | beardy | dylan_: More so than anything else yes. But proof, no, nothing can be that. |
| 21:51.42 | _cyclops_ | pha, try searching for 'tecra 8100 xf86config' on google... |
| 21:51.57 | itchi | ktwilight: Sorry i look a bit on the net |
| 21:52.00 | dli | Oinz, testing? try tp remove libnewt0.51 ,and dist-upgrade |
| 21:52.01 | beardy | dylan_: or, pretty much, yes :) |
| 21:52.17 | dli | what is a good 3D bechmarking program? |
| 21:52.21 | _cyclops_ | any ideas on my xkb error at startup of gnome? |
| 21:52.48 | dylan_ | beardy, coolness ... i noticed its much more stable and faster than ubuntu |
| 21:52.51 | dli | _cyclops_, old bug , but I forgot how I fixed it :( |
| 21:52.55 | beardy | dli: Depends on what you want to benchmark. Use a game, if it's that kind of 3D performance you want to benchmark. |
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| 21:53.34 | dli | beardy, just want to benchmark my old s3 ProSavage, I think it's 3D capable |
| 21:53.41 | _cyclops_ | dli,yeah.. it's a bug in stable.. but my xprop -root and gconftool-2 results are equal i gues... |
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| 21:54.07 | Oinz | dli: ok, i will try this |
| 21:54.21 | ktwilight | itchi, i don't understand what you mean |
| 21:54.32 | beardy | dli: You can try glxgears to see if it is 3D capable, it is _not_ a benchmark though. Or just search the web and see if it really is capable, first? |
| 21:54.40 | dli | _cyclops_, I think upgrading gnome, and rm ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome* (and lose all your own customization) |
| 21:54.41 | ktwilight | itchi, do you mean the installer that you downloaded before? |
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| 21:54.53 | ktwilight | itchi, you might as well check if there's a new nvidia installer at their site. :) |
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| 21:55.00 | itchi | ktwilight: I ask you things. I was a bit lazzy to look on the web. Yes the installer i had user for Sarge with xfree |
| 21:55.09 | _cyclops_ | dli, hmm, it's a fresh install.. i'll try deleting the gnome configs then :) |
| 21:55.11 | itchi | ktwilight: Yeah, doing now ;-) |
| 21:55.13 | ktwilight | itchi, best is to get the latest version itchi ;) |
| 21:55.16 | ktwilight | itchi, k |
| 21:55.37 | dli | beardy, if I turn off drm, glxgears can run at 400 fps, if I turn on drm, I get a black window, and 100% cpu |
| 21:55.48 | itchi | Linux IA 32, what mean that 'IA' on Nvidia's driver download page? |
| 21:55.58 | amphi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.11 | Oinz | dli: if i try to remove the package, i get the following error: http://phpfi.com/124833 how can i remove this package? |
| 21:56.12 | itchi | amphi: ;-) |
| 21:56.18 | dli | _cyclops_, there's some trick, I don't recall, google the error message |
| 21:56.56 | _cyclops_ | dli, well the error message is quite bad.. just says the configs differ... |
| 21:57.03 | itchi | ktwilight: Yes, it's of May 22, 2006 |
| 21:57.19 | _cyclops_ | the removing of ~/.g* had the result that i now get one error... little closer.. :) |
| 21:57.20 | dli | Oinz, that's bad, apt-get -f remove whiptail |
| 21:57.28 | _cyclops_ | dli, i used to have 2... |
| 21:57.45 | ktwilight | itchi, sounds good. go for it! |
| 21:57.56 | dli | _cyclops_, I thnk gnome-2.14 solved this :( |
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| 21:58.07 | itchi | ktwilight: Reading the realease note ;-) |
| 21:58.19 | dli | _cyclops_, gnome <=2.8 or >=2.14, no between |
| 21:58.42 | _cyclops_ | dli, well this is stable.. version 2.8.3 |
| 21:58.45 | _cyclops_ | just have to wait i gues :) |
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| 21:58.58 | startxwhite | it seems no one here can help this newbie! i am all by myself! i am on my own! the trials and tribulations of a gnu/linux newbie!! |
| 21:59.11 | _cyclops_ | dli, i don't have to reboot every 5 hours with linux, so it's ok :) |
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| 21:59.39 | beardy | !tell startxwhite -about ask |
| 21:59.51 | itchi | startxwhite: Drink many beer! |
| 21:59.56 | DarkCow | oh, DerJamster, MoDaX, I have it working now |
| 22:00.00 | DarkCow | thanks very, very much |
| 22:00.02 | amphi | startxwhite: perhaps no one has such hw - google will no doubt turn up some info |
| 22:00.11 | ktwilight | startxwhite, what's the problem again? |
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| 22:00.25 | amphi | itchi: heh |
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| 22:00.41 | startxwhite | itchi: i am a teetotaller devotee! |
| 22:00.43 | amphi | ktwilight: /lastlog startxwhite |
| 22:00.46 | startxwhite | i run sarge 2.6.8-2 and wanna use a wireless usb network adapter Linksys WUSB11 v2.6 (FCC ID: PKW WUSB11-V26) ATMEL AT76C503A chipset. i executed apt-get install atmel-firmware and edited fstab according to the readme file. i did reboot but it still does not work |
| 22:01.09 | beardy | startxwhite: what has fstab to do with that networkcard? |
| 22:01.11 | amphi | startxwhite: reboot is not likely to do much for you |
| 22:01.12 | ktwilight | amphi, coool~ didn't know there's such a thing. haha thanks |
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| 22:01.33 | Oinz | dli: i removed whiptail and made an apt-get upgrade. But now i get a new errormessage: http://phpfi.com/124834 .. i tried to reinstall nscd but i get the same errormessage... |
| 22:01.48 | beardy | !reboot |
| 22:01.48 | dpkg | you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2 |
| 22:02.03 | beardy | (and that is not a hardware change" |
| 22:02.05 | beardy | ) |
| 22:02.08 | startxwhite | beardy: the readme does tell you edit fstab |
| 22:02.16 | ktwilight | one would need to reboot x if there are any changes to the x though. |
| 22:02.20 | beardy | startxwhite: Why? |
| 22:02.31 | beardy | startxwhite: Edit it to do what? |
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| 22:02.53 | startxwhite | amphi!: correct this newbie if wrong but if you modify fstab you to reboot to make your changes active right? |
| 22:03.03 | amphi | startxwhite: wrong ;) |
| 22:03.10 | beardy | startxwhite: No need to reboot. |
| 22:03.20 | itchi | startxwhite: It's directly keep in mind |
| 22:03.21 | amphi | startxwhite: this is no legacy os ;) |
| 22:03.33 | dylan_ | when i edit /etc/sudoers, is adding myname like ALL=(NOPASSWD) ALL unsecure? |
| 22:03.40 | beardy | startxwhite: And please tell us why the readme wants you to fiddle with fstab? |
| 22:03.47 | dli | Oinz, just kill nscd |
| 22:04.15 | startxwhite | beardy: |
| 22:04.19 | amphi | startxwhite: fstab has nothing to do with wifi adapters, unusual serial bus or no |
| 22:04.36 | beardy | startxwhite: (if more than one line, /msg dpkg pastebin) |
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| 22:04.57 | Oinz | dli: nscd is not running... |
| 22:05.20 | itchi | There is champagne to, if you not like beer :-/ |
| 22:05.39 | startxwhite | has anyone here who says fstab has nothing to do with the atmel device has even bothered to read the readme file? |
| 22:05.49 | dli | Oinz, dpkg --force-all -r nscd |
| 22:06.03 | beardy | startxwhite: No, where is it? And, don't you trust what we say? |
| 22:06.17 | itchi | apt-get wiskey |
| 22:06.20 | kfirb | hi guys, I'm using a woody dist. installed some 1.5years ago, and when I do df -h, I get "/dev/hda5 size is -391235...76k" any ideas why? |
| 22:06.40 | amphi | startxwhite: /etc/fstab is the FileSystem Table file, no connection to network adapters |
| 22:06.50 | Eulex | kfirb, a guess: corrupted filesystem |
| 22:06.58 | kfirb | for /dev/hda1 I get the same.. |
| 22:07.00 | itchi | !fstab |
| 22:07.01 | dpkg | it has been said that fstab is a file that lets the `mount' command know what mountable things (partitions, drives, etc) are in your system. Try `man 5 fstab` for more information on it. |
| 22:07.04 | kfirb | Show a restart do it ? |
| 22:07.20 | kfirb | should |
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| 22:07.36 | itchi | kfirb: After a backup, we never know when he goes die that HDD |
| 22:07.40 | Eulex | kfirb, maybe. and check if it tries to fsck it. |
| 22:08.01 | kfirb | itchi: after a backup? |
| 22:08.09 | itchi | kfirb: You want to restart? |
| 22:08.25 | _cyclops_ | any idea how i can bind a key combination (ctrl+alt+t) to a command to run (i want it to open an Eterm started by a shell script...) |
| 22:08.35 | _cyclops_ | i had this, but i forgot how to do it :s |
| 22:08.43 | Oinz | dli: ok, now it works... thanks a lot ! |
| 22:08.45 | itchi | kfirb: Arg my last HDD crash are of 2 weeks :-/ |
| 22:08.48 | beardy | _cyclops_: Depends on where, where? |
| 22:08.57 | formorer | _cyclops_: xbindkeys? |
| 22:09.23 | dli | _cyclops_, gconf-editor |
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| 22:09.32 | kfirb | maybe when it restarts it will check the HD ? The good thing on this machine (P133, 64MB RAM,1.3GB HD) is that it's hte most stable machine I've ever had. It normally restarts only due to electricity fallouts |
| 22:10.02 | itchi | kfirb: It's because you run _Debian_ :-) |
| 22:10.27 | Eulex | kfirb, sounds like my pmmx 200 with 128mb ram and 2gb hdd :) |
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| 22:10.31 | _cyclops_ | beardy, formorer, dli, it was done in a config editor, gconf-editorlooks good |
| 22:10.33 | beardy | kfirb: You know that sarge is the name of the current stable, and woody is the old stable? |
| 22:10.53 | kfirb | of course.. but I had a AMD2000+ that ran ubuntu, had all these heating shmeating problems:) |
| 22:11.03 | beardy | _cyclops_: Ok, have a look at that, but that sounds like a gnome thing. Do you run gnome? |
| 22:11.23 | _cyclops_ | beardy: yeah, it was configured in gnome.... |
| 22:11.34 | dli | kfirb, I think ubuntu is for n00bs only, I suggest ubuntu to those never saw linux |
| 22:11.35 | kfirb | beardy: I know, however, this machine works and very stable. Don't want to change a winning horse.. |
| 22:11.55 | wintix | dli: ack. |
| 22:11.56 | _cyclops_ | i used to run icewm witch had it in a very simple config file.. so when i switched to gnome i did the same sort of way in gnome, but it was more like a registry editor... |
| 22:12.22 | startxwhite | fstab editing reason: http://thekelleys.org.uk/atmel/READ-ME |
| 22:12.32 | beardy | kfirb: Ok. Beware that security updates of woody will stop (or has they already) soon, if the machine is on the net I mean. |
| 22:12.35 | kfirb | dli: I agree, as far as I remember, that woody installation took ~8 hours, now I study and work, so I never thought I had the time to go through an installation, especially with that computer that kept crashing |
| 22:13.29 | kfirb | beardy: I know I take some risks, however that (woody) machine is behind a router, and I consider it quite safe. |
| 22:13.49 | amphi | startxwhite: oh, sysfs - why didn't you say so? |
| 22:14.27 | startxwhite | i did mention fstab editing and no one bothered to read the readme before starting to tell me off! |
| 22:14.48 | beardy | kfirb: Just checking if you knew. If you are aware of what you're doing, do as you please :) |
| 22:15.08 | itchi | startxwhite: It's now you gave the link :-/ |
| 22:15.08 | beardy | startxwhite: Where's the link to it? Tell me again if you already have done that. |
| 22:15.11 | dli | kfirb, you messed it up :( or hardware problems |
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| 22:15.28 | amphi | startxwhite: wtf should they read the readme? you could just have said what it said to add if not already present |
| 22:15.29 | kfirb | beardy: It uses latest opera on window maker and plays MP3s.. |
| 22:15.36 | startxwhite | http://thekelleys.org.uk/atmel/READ-ME |
| 22:15.37 | beardy | oh |
| 22:15.50 | beardy | kfirb: :) |
| 22:15.50 | kfirb | dli: very possible :) It was my major linux bootcamp machine |
| 22:16.28 | dli | kfirb, boot memtest86 |
| 22:16.31 | startxwhite | i would prefer to get advice from someone using an atmel usb wifi device instead of someone with no experience on this particular thing whatsoever |
| 22:16.34 | startxwhite | thanks |
| 22:17.33 | kfirb | allright guys, going for boot... |
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| 22:18.50 | beardy | startxwhite: Ok. You could have mentioned that problem you were having was with the actual replcement of the firmware of that thing. Just a suggestion. |
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| 22:19.00 | dn4 | random quote |
| 22:19.04 | dn4 | [11:37] <timbre> i wanna take OMMER for a flight in my ROFLCOPTER over LOLTOWN while smoking OMGJOINTS and looking that the STFUHORIZON |
| 22:19.23 | dli | startxwhite, your attitude defines the quality of support you receive |
| 22:19.28 | startxwhite | thanks |
| 22:19.32 | beardy | dn4: why? |
| 22:19.46 | itchi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:19.51 | jelly | startxwhite: btw, that fstab thing is not needed if you already have sysfs mounted (you probably have if you're running a 2.6 kernel) |
| 22:19.52 | Jemt | Greetings. This is very weird. I have downloaded the Minimal Installer CD twice and burned two CDs - but not one of them work on any of my computers. But when I open the CD in a file browser, the files show up just fine - no problems reading it. |
| 22:20.06 | pha | erm I have no /dev/mouse... using laptop mouse, which device is it? |
| 22:20.28 | Eulex | pha, try /dev/input/mice or /dev/psaux |
| 22:20.29 | beardy | Jemt: Burn it at a slower speed. 4x or lower. |
| 22:20.32 | startxwhite | jelly: how can i be sure i have sysfs mounted? |
| 22:20.45 | Jemt | beardy: How can that have anything to do with it ? |
| 22:20.52 | pha | thanks |
| 22:20.53 | jelly | startxwhite: mount |grep sysfs |
| 22:21.04 | beardy | Jemt: Also make sure your bios is configured to boot from cd. |
| 22:21.10 | beardy | Jemt: It has. |
| 22:21.11 | wintix | Jemt: it most certanly hasnt. |
| 22:21.28 | Jemt | beardy: The BIOS is configured fine - I'm not a n00b ;) |
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| 22:21.40 | startxwhite | jelly: how can i be sure i have sysfs mounted |
| 22:21.49 | startxwhite | thanks it is mounted |
| 22:21.51 | Jemt | Why can I write any other OS in the world at 24 x speed, but not Debian ? |
| 22:21.52 | beardy | !n00b |
| 22:21.52 | dpkg | it has been said that n00b is l33t jargon for newbie. |
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| 22:21.59 | beardy | !noob |
| 22:21.59 | dpkg | methinks noob is Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
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| 22:22.07 | jelly | startxwhite: mount will display a line like "sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)" |
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| 22:22.13 | amphi | startxwhite: you can mount it manually, if needed, with mount -t sysfs none /sys |
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| 22:22.49 | startxwhite | jelly: it is mounted but what am i doing wrong as fasr as the atmel usb wifi thing is concerned? |
| 22:22.50 | robin_sz | Jemt, one thing, Debian isn't an OS either |
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| 22:22.59 | kevinv | Hello all |
| 22:23.10 | Jemt | robin_sz: Faster than say "A kernel with GNU tools" |
| 22:23.55 | kevinv | Is there an easy way to re-master the Debian net-inst CD to add additional packages to be automaticly installed with the base installation? |
| 22:24.20 | beardy | Jemt: that one is faster than "A kernel with GNU tools and the biggest lump of free software released." though |
| 22:24.38 | Jemt | beardy: LOL :p |
| 22:24.39 | beardy | s/software/software ever/ |
| 22:24.44 | jelly | startxwhite: hm. hotplug and wireless are not exactly my area of expertise, but I got my intel 2915 working (in testing though). |
| 22:24.46 | dylan_ | Does anybody know when Gnash will be stable? |
| 22:24.53 | pha | yay... it's working :D |
| 22:25.05 | Jemt | !gnash |
| 22:25.06 | dpkg | it has been said that gnash is a GNU project to create a free software player for movies in Shockwave Flash format. Its developers plan on writing a stand-alone player and a plugin for Firefox. Plugins for other browsers may also be written afterwards. Writing a free software Flash-player has been a priority of the GNU project for some time. Before the launch of Gnash, the GNU project asked for people to assist the GPLFlash project. ... |
| 22:25.09 | jelly | startxwhite: is the kernel module loaded? |
| 22:25.34 | pha | should I bother getting in depth and tweaking XF86Config... will it make things faster? |
| 22:25.59 | startxwhite | jelly: no |
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| 22:26.05 | Jemt | pha: Tweak in what way? Concerning compilation or configuration files ? |
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| 22:26.12 | robin_sz | Jemt, trust me, your CDR cannot tell its Debian .. whilst it may not have worked, deciding that "it must be debian" is noit the correct conclusion. Thats like decding that because its raining and a the 19th, it must rain on dates ending in 9 |
| 22:26.20 | dylan_ | Jemt, that does not answer my question |
| 22:26.23 | Jemt | pha: Choosing the right display driver might optimize things a bit :) |
| 22:26.26 | dli | beardy, hurd? |
| 22:26.39 | pha | Jemt: yeah I got the display driver right :) |
| 22:26.43 | Jemt | dylan_: I didn't try to answer your question |
| 22:26.50 | jelly | startxwhite: can you see the card in lsusb output? |
| 22:26.51 | pha | hmmm the "x" is stuck in the middle but the arrow moves |
| 22:26.53 | pha | *sigh* |
| 22:26.57 | beardy | dli: yes, or no, hmm? |
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| 22:27.33 | startxwhite | jelly: yes |
| 22:27.33 | startxwhite | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 077b:2219 Linksys WUSB11 V2.6 802.11b Adapter |
| 22:27.35 | Jemt | pha: Well, then I don't think you can optimize much if you also got hardware rendering :) |
| 22:27.57 | dylan_ | Jemt, good effort ;) |
| 22:28.05 | beardy | dli: what do you mean? |
| 22:28.11 | Jemt | dylan_: I din't know what it was - so I made the Bot tell me :) |
| 22:28.14 | jelly | startxwhite: hm, what distribution are you running. I think the right place to put firmware has changed. I have it in /lib/firmware, but I'm not sure where should it be placed in stable. |
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| 22:28.44 | Jemt | Now.. CD burned at 4 x speed.. Lets see if it works now |
| 22:28.46 | Jemt | Nope.. |
| 22:28.49 | Jemt | Still dosn't work |
| 22:28.52 | Jemt | * |
| 22:28.56 | beardy | Jemt: Check the bios. |
| 22:28.56 | Jemt | *sigh* |
| 22:29.03 | startxwhite | jelly: gnu/linux debian sarge kernel 2.6.8-2 |
| 22:29.07 | Jemt | beardy: For what? I KNOW it is booting the CD.. |
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| 22:29.26 | Jemt | beardy: I've been working with computers for 13 years. I know how a BIOS works |
| 22:29.31 | beardy | Jemt: ANd it should boot from cd before any hd, the best order is floppy, cd, hd. |
| 22:29.44 | Jemt | As I said.. :) |
| 22:29.51 | beardy | Jemt: That's great, no go and check again. |
| 22:29.58 | beardy | now |
| 22:30.03 | jelly | startxwhite: probably stable. what does /etc/debian_version say? |
| 22:30.05 | dylan_ | Jemt, oh ok |
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| 22:30.12 | robin_sz | jemt: would you care to explain "does not work" a bit more? |
| 22:30.32 | startxwhite | jelly: i am running 3.1 that is gnu/linux debian sarge kernel 2.6.8-2 |
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| 22:30.48 | tonyb2007 | hello |
| 22:31.02 | robin_sz | Jemt, "Still dosn't work" does not tell us that much |
| 22:31.09 | startxwhite | jelly: i installed atmel-firmware 1.2-2 deb package for sarge a couple of days ago |
| 22:31.09 | Jemt | robin_sz: Sure. The CD Boots, presenting me with a gray screen with a lot of black "balls" where there should be text |
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| 22:31.20 | tonyb2006 | hmm |
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| 22:31.40 | jelly | startxwhite: sounds reasonable. you also installed at76c503a-source? |
| 22:31.40 | robin_sz | what video card? |
| 22:31.56 | Jemt | robin_sz: Nvidia and ATI. I have tested it on 2 machines |
| 22:32.08 | Jemt | robin_sz: Besides, this is not X - shouldn't matter |
| 22:33.21 | Jemt | Unless Ubuntu Dapper fcks up the CD.. |
| 22:33.34 | Jemt | Wouldn't surprise me. That OS is one big BUG |
| 22:33.37 | Jemt | bug* |
| 22:33.42 | pha | is there a major difference between using XF86Config and XF86Config-4 ? |
| 22:33.51 | robin_sz | Jemt, trueish ... weird you get the same results on two different machines ... sounds to me like it IS "working" as in booting and starting .... just the display isscrewed |
| 22:34.01 | itchi | I install the driver of my Nvidia card, getted of the nvidia site. Now he need the source tree of 2.6.15-1-686. It's not available?? |
| 22:34.24 | startxwhite | jelly: at76c503a-source? i do not have that and apt-cache search can not find it |
| 22:34.28 | Jemt | robin_sz: Yea, it IS weird. Btw - I'm testing on two different monitors too - one TFT, one CRT |
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| 22:34.40 | beardy | Jemt: If you press Enter when you see those black balls, or what it was, does it continue to read from the disk, as in continuing booting? |
| 22:34.56 | Jemt | robin_sz: http://ubuntu.org - Great Debian Based OS until Dapper was released |
| 22:35.09 | Jemt | beardy: It reboots |
| 22:35.24 | jelly | startxwhite: it's in contrib. Well, you won't need it if you downloaded the source and compiled it successfully already. |
| 22:35.24 | robin_sz | hmmm |
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| 22:36.06 | itchi | Or is 'linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686' enought ? I not know the diffs :-/ |
| 22:36.17 | robin_sz | Jemt: by the way, Ubuntu isnt an OS either |
| 22:36.28 | tonyb2007 | hi |
| 22:36.38 | robin_sz | Debian and Ubuntu as *distributions* of Linux |
| 22:36.41 | startxwhite | jelly: i have not compiled anything. as a newbie: i would prefer to use a ready made deb package for sarge |
| 22:36.41 | jelly | robin_sz: kernel isn't an os either. |
| 22:36.44 | Jemt | robin_sz: I know, I know. But 99% of the world would call it an OS.. |
| 22:36.45 | heh_v_water | itchi, i believe that is enough, try searching for linux-source and linux-tree too |
| 22:36.59 | robin_sz | Jemt, umm, not the 99% I know |
| 22:37.13 | beardy | Jemt: Doesn't make it right. |
| 22:37.44 | itchi | heh_v_water: I have find it 'apt-cache search linux-source' ;-) Just some troubles to remember the differents names, Sarge/Etch |
| 22:37.59 | beardy | Jemt: Are you sure the image is correct? md5sum checked it? |
| 22:38.24 | jelly | startxwhite: oh. well, seems that there isn't one in debian, but there are ready made pieces to build one. |
| 22:38.29 | Jemt | beardy: I can't seem to find the MD5 sum on debian.org |
| 22:38.37 | itchi | So need i also install that 'linux-patch-debian-2.6.15'? |
| 22:38.53 | beardy | Jemt: Check the link to the image, the md5sums are in the same directory. |
| 22:39.03 | Jemt | beardy: Ah, great - thanks |
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| 22:39.08 | vtt | hi all |
| 22:39.11 | beardy | Jemt: But, and that is really bad, they are not linked on the download page. |
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| 22:39.22 | heh_v_water | itchi, i'm not sure if it's the right thing to do but I do. you probably also need things like build essential etc |
| 22:39.24 | vtt | anyone , what guestbook is best? |
| 22:39.45 | amphi | !best |
| 22:39.45 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 22:39.48 | startxwhite | jelly: pieces to build one? is that newbie friendly? |
| 22:39.57 | jelly | startxwhite: take a look at /msg dpkg m-a (that apt-get line), then add contrib next to main in your sources.list, like this: |
| 22:40.00 | beardy | vtt: guestbook? As in a webthing? |
| 22:40.05 | itchi | heh_v_water: I'm not know the whole list needed. I try and complain if it ask more ;-) |
| 22:40.33 | zenwryly | I'm looking for something like Winamp's Media Library. Any suggestions? |
| 22:40.36 | vtt | beardy: yes |
| 22:40.37 | jelly | startxwhite: deb http://debian.iskon.hr/debian stable main contrib non-free (I added contrib and non-free) |
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| 22:41.56 | jelly | startxwhite: then do apt-get update; apt-get install at76c503a-source, and use m-a to build the module for your card and install it. |
| 22:42.09 | Jemt | beardy: Checksum is fine. Maybe it is the burner. I'm reinstalling another PC with Ubuntu, burning the image from there |
| 22:42.22 | robin_sz | yuck |
| 22:42.37 | itchi | zenwryly: xmms |
| 22:42.39 | beardy | vtt: There are so many of them, and done in so many ways. And so 1996 ;). A forum would be better. But have you searched the web for it? I guess there are millions, some free, some good, some bad, some that costs and so on. |
| 22:42.48 | jelly | startxwhite: it's supposed to be relatively painless. Unless something breaks. |
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| 22:43.07 | beardy | Jemt: Do that. Or another livecd, if you hate Ubuntu. |
| 22:43.19 | vtt | beardy: ok thank |
| 22:43.26 | robin_sz | guest books are so 1996, and even then they were crap |
| 22:43.40 | itchi | zenwryly: It's look 99,9% the same |
| 22:43.42 | Jemt | beardy: I'm using Ubuntu Breezy - that's great. It is just based on old software |
| 22:43.50 | vtt | okey, i will use weblog :D |
| 22:43.53 | robin_sz | ick |
| 22:44.16 | dli | jj |
| 22:44.20 | beardy | Jemt: What installer is this that you are trying to use? SOunds to me that it could be a etch beta installer..? |
| 22:44.52 | robin_sz | weird ... nothing to do with the crappy distro ... hah, coulnt even register their own domain :) |
| 22:45.05 | zenwryly | itchi: I never noticed a media library in xmms |
| 22:45.35 | Jemt | beardy: It's the netinst image / Minimal CD from debian.org |
| 22:45.40 | zenwryly | I don't care whether it looks like winamp's media library. I want something that *works* somewhat like it |
| 22:45.45 | beardy | Media libraries are bad. |
| 22:45.50 | beardy | Jemt: For stable? |
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| 22:46.00 | zenwryly | beardy: educate me |
| 22:46.02 | jelly | startxwhite: not too friendly, but there are legal reasons why Debian can't distribute those as binaries, so you have to compile them yourself. m-a process shouldn't be too hard. Also: other folks here can help you if you get stuck with m-a, I'll have to leave now. |
| 22:46.07 | zenwryly | beardy: why are they bad? |
| 22:46.10 | beardy | zenwryly: WHy do you want one? |
| 22:46.21 | dn4 | sometimes I feel like I have reached the ends of the internet and back. |
| 22:46.24 | heh_v_water | zenwryly, are you saying your looking for things like shoutcast tv etc? cause there is nothing for linux that shows that stuff afaik |
| 22:47.07 | beardy | dn4: Sometimes I feel you are a bot that should be silenced. |
| 22:47.39 | beardy | zenwryly: I don't understand why they are needed, what's wrong with playlists? |
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| 22:48.06 | beardy | zenwryly: ANd most of them scan your drives, and catalogs everything that looks like a "media" file. |
| 22:48.26 | zenwryly | beardy, heh_v_water: I just like being able to sort and browse my MP3s by various file and idv3 metadata and assemble playlists and edit idv3 and such. Ideally, I could use the same interface to rip like I can in winamp |
| 22:48.57 | beardy | zenwryly: You can do that in a playlist, can't you? |
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| 22:49.06 | heh_v_water | zenwryly, if you find something that fits let me know |
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| 22:49.43 | beardy | zenwryly: Search the packagelist for "jukebox", perhaps that is what you want. apt-cache search jukebox |
| 22:49.56 | robin_sz | zenwryly, try "apt-cache search playlist" |
| 22:50.23 | itchi | zenwryly: I have misunderstood media library with playlist :-/ I not know that Winamp have an media library. apt-cache search xmm show many plugins |
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| 22:51.19 | robin_sz | zenwryly, try apt-get install xmms-qbble |
| 22:51.48 | robin_sz | xmms-qbble - XMMS playlist manager with search support |
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| 22:52.02 | beardy | dn4: so, are you a person? |
| 22:52.32 | cat | hey everyone i cannot set up my x for my laptop is really hard, to get it working, i can't stard it up, can someone help me out i have xorg |
| 22:52.44 | zenwryly | beardy, robin_sz: I'll try those, thanks a lot |
| 22:53.10 | beardy | !set up x |
| 22:53.11 | dpkg | well, set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 22:53.47 | cat | is there a way that debian autodect it? |
| 22:53.53 | cat | i know in woody that us to happend |
| 22:54.04 | Jemt | Is xorg available for Debian via repos ? |
| 22:54.10 | Aim_Here | You can try running xorgconfig and xorgcfg or the xf86 variants |
| 22:54.17 | startxwhite | jelly: thanks for your help. at present i am stuck at compiling. what is m-a? |
| 22:54.23 | dli | Jemt, in etch (testing now) |
| 22:54.24 | robin_sz | cat: which laptop, google for it, theres sometimes specific X configs that have been found to work |
| 22:54.25 | Aim_Here | One of them tries to fire up X and automatically configure stuff |
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| 22:54.37 | jelly | startxwhite: /msg dpkg m-a |
| 22:54.54 | Jemt | dli: What? Etch is the next Debian release ? |
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| 22:55.20 | cat | Aim_Here: not reqally |
| 22:55.33 | cat | those command are not supported it |
| 22:55.46 | Aim_Here | Maybe not supported but they do sortof work |
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| 22:55.59 | dylan_ | where can i get wireless drivers for debian? they're not in the repos |
| 22:56.01 | dli | cat, for some reason, debian requires you to do x config with debconf, I suggest you to do " X -configure " have a look at /root/xorg.conf.new , and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 22:56.02 | dylan_ | free repos, that is |
| 22:56.11 | robin_sz | they are |
| 22:56.15 | Aim_Here | Depends on your driver |
| 22:56.16 | heh_v_water | dylan_, what chipset is your wireless card using? |
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| 22:56.30 | dylan_ | heh_v_water, its rt2x00 |
| 22:56.43 | cat | those command are not supported it |
| 22:56.45 | dli | dylan_, rt2x00 is supported |
| 22:56.46 | cat | dli: can you Join flood? |
| 22:56.55 | heh_v_water | dylan_, 2400 or 2500? |
| 22:57.10 | cat | so you can see the error that gives me |
| 22:57.26 | startxwhite | jelly: module-assistant kernel-headers and build-essential are already installed |
| 22:57.32 | dylan_ | heh_v_water, 2500 |
| 22:57.47 | dli | dylan_, apt-get install rt2500-source |
| 22:57.51 | jelly | startxwhite: that -source package? |
| 22:57.55 | cat | module-assistant |
| 22:58.03 | cat | dli: can you Join #flood? |
| 22:58.09 | dylan_ | dli, then what? |
| 22:58.38 | dli | dylan_, you can use m-a or make-kpkg to build the kernel module |
| 22:58.48 | dylan_ | dli, it cant find the package name |
| 22:58.52 | Jemt | !etch |
| 22:58.52 | dpkg | [etch] the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
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| 22:59.06 | dli | dylan_, it's not within stable (sarge) |
| 22:59.06 | heh_v_water | dylan_,then you use module-assistant to install it.. you could try>> m-a a-i rt2500 |
| 22:59.17 | cat | dli: can you please join #flood so i can pasted you an error? |
| 22:59.25 | heh_v_water | dylan_, yes it's not in stable as dli stated |
| 22:59.28 | dli | cat, use a pastebin |
| 22:59.32 | dylan_ | heh_v_water, hmmm |
| 22:59.41 | cat | dli: i can't |
| 23:00.25 | cat | pastebin.com? |
| 23:00.27 | dli | dylan_, I think you need a newer kernel also, if you are running stable |
| 23:00.41 | dli | cat, pastebin.ca , you can upload a file |
| 23:01.07 | dli | cat, anyway, what I told you to do is enough |
| 23:01.34 | cat | bla |
| 23:01.39 | cat | i cant |
| 23:01.44 | startxwhite | jelly: shall i run module-assistant and select the at76c503a driver? |
| 23:01.51 | cat | i dont have internet on the laptop |
| 23:01.58 | cat | i just want to pasted it on flood |
| 23:02.02 | cat | type /join #flood |
| 23:02.04 | cat | and then part |
| 23:02.10 | heh_v_water | dylan_, there is actually two ways of installing drivers for that.. the recommended way is with module-assistant but as stated that source is only in etch, the other way (harder) is to get the manufacturer's package (ralink site) for linux and build it yourself following the maufacturer's directions (not recommended) |
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| 23:03.13 | jelly | startxwhite: yup. |
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| 23:03.55 | dli | heh_v_water, does the source build with the current sarge kernel? |
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| 23:04.33 | heh_v_water | dli, I had it running in sarge, not sure which method I used but i was using 2.6.8 kernel |
| 23:04.58 | heh_v_water | I have an rt2500 working with etch and 2.6.15 right now using the debian packages tho |
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| 23:05.23 | startxwhite | jelly: ok. i am building now |
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| 23:06.20 | yetistomps | i am having trouble copying files to my reiserfs drive via Samba from my winxp box. I am able to login fine but i can't write/delete anything on my shared drive. Please help |
| 23:06.23 | jelly | startxwhite: k. I'm afk now, ask others if you have trouble. |
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| 23:07.28 | |Ze_M| | i cant enter here with my tor exit node, why is it baned? |
| 23:07.31 | yetistomps | /dev/hdd1 /data reiserfs auto,users,rw 1 1 <---my shared drive |
| 23:08.23 | yetistomps | I also looked at my smb.conf and it give rw permisions to /data |
| 23:08.26 | yetistomps | what gives? |
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| 23:09.36 | itchi | I try to setup my Nvidia video card. So i did 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run --kernel-source-path /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15' like he not find the path, but then he complain that it's no |
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| 23:10.07 | ktwilight | ? |
| 23:10.15 | itchi | oeps, ... that it's not configured. Before i had install the nvidia drivers, but never configure an kernel, and now i need it ?? |
| 23:10.26 | yetistomps | where do I look as far as config files to FIND OUT why i CANNOT write/delete files to a SHARED /data reiserfs drive? smb.conf or /etc/fstab or ? |
| 23:10.32 | ktwilight | itchi, you need the kernel source to compile the module |
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| 23:10.58 | itchi | ktwilight: I have installed linux-source-2.6.15, is that all we need ? |
| 23:11.39 | itchi | ktwilight: I have extract the source be the hand to |
| 23:11.47 | ktwilight | no idea really. i think there is kernel-image-2.6.15 that you needa get too, or something, can't quite remember :/ |
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| 23:12.17 | itchi | ktwilight: It's already done otherwise udev or so complain in Etch |
| 23:12.55 | startxwhite | thanks. i am rebooting now |
| 23:13.46 | ktwilight | itchi, hmm...no idea... |
| 23:14.07 | ktwilight | itchi, do you know http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
| 23:14.14 | itchi | ktwilight: heh_v_water have say me taht i need build-essentials and so, but i not know exactly wich other that build-essentions |
| 23:14.14 | ktwilight | it /may/ help you |
| 23:14.28 | itchi | ktwilight: Now, yes ;-) |
| 23:14.38 | |Ze_M| | is possible to grep inside *.gz compressed files? |
| 23:14.48 | amphi | |Ze_M|: zgrep |
| 23:15.10 | ktwilight | itchi, check if you have the build-essential package |
| 23:15.16 | heh_v_water | also gcc |
| 23:15.24 | ktwilight | i've no ide awhat build-essential can do though. :/ |
| 23:15.30 | beardy | |Ze_M|: or zcat and grep |
| 23:15.32 | itchi | ktwilight: Just istalled, i give it again an try |
| 23:15.35 | |Ze_M| | ok |
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| 23:16.20 | ktwilight | itchi, k :) |
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| 23:17.23 | itchi | ktwilight: Not enought it's looks |
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| 23:18.18 | ktwilight | itchi, what's the exact error message? |
| 23:18.35 | itchi | ktwilight: I'm on the way of pastebin'ing ;-) |
| 23:18.43 | ktwilight | :) |
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| 23:19.37 | Mitja | Is there anything better than usbmount by Martin Dickopp out there? |
| 23:19.43 | itchi | ktwilight: http://pastebin.ca/68065 |
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| 23:20.12 | robin_sz | OK, Sarge, Apache2, with php4 installed ... wtf does it not parse and "do the right thing" to this php page? it just delivers up the php source, unparsed |
| 23:20.17 | Pasante | hi, does anybody know how to force one of two ethernet cards to be detected as eth0? |
| 23:20.18 | Sivik | does anyone here play nwn |
| 23:20.38 | amphi | Pasante: ifrename |
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| 23:20.54 | Jemt | robin_sz: You need to install PHP too |
| 23:20.55 | ktwilight | no idea itchi, someone else should be able to help though :) |
| 23:21.00 | Jemt | robin_sz: Sorry, never mind |
| 23:21.30 | ktwilight | robin_sz, did you add the mime/type? |
| 23:21.53 | robin_sz | ktwilight, does the .deb not do that? |
| 23:21.53 | itchi | ktwilight: It's looks that i need to config the kernel source :-/ I have never do it on the right way, like i always have fail in that |
| 23:22.23 | heh_v_water | itchie I *think* module-assistant will prepare your sources for you >> m-a prepare |
| 23:22.31 | Sivik | nwn players? |
| 23:22.39 | itchi | ktwilight: But i think it's because i have never try with that initramfs or somethings else |
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| 23:22.42 | ktwilight | robin_sz, no idea. but it's good to check apache2.conf ;) |
| 23:22.44 | Pasante | amphi: but how to do it automatically at boot time? |
| 23:23.04 | ktwilight | itchi, maybe, but i've no idea really. |
| 23:23.06 | robin_sz | ktwilight, in /etc/apache2/mods.enabled/pp4.conf I have: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 |
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| 23:23.20 | amphi | Pasante: man ifrename I guess, I don't use it |
| 23:23.23 | itchi | libapache2-mod-php4 ?? |
| 23:23.25 | ktwilight | robin_sz, looks good. i've no idea then. :/ |
| 23:23.35 | ktwilight | robin_sz, asking #apache may give you more help |
| 23:23.49 | itchi | I begin to get pain on the eyes at 60Hz :-( |
| 23:23.51 | robin_sz | 'k |
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| 23:24.24 | ktwilight | itchi, move away! |
| 23:24.53 | itchi | ktwilight: No, i try now on this box to get Ati working at 85Hz ;-) |
| 23:25.05 | ktwilight | haha |
| 23:25.07 | ktwilight | k |
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| 23:31.16 | itchi | robin_sz: Solved? |
| 23:31.49 | robin_sz | itchi, no .. a2enmod even says its enabled .. but it aint |
| 23:32.07 | itchi | robin_sz: Restarting apache ? |
| 23:33.00 | itchi | robin_sz: With an simple php file with <?php phpinfo() ?>' work it? |
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| 23:33.31 | abrotman | robin_sz: clear your cache |
| 23:34.06 | robin_sz | abrotman, well, i restarted the browser ... still the same .. wait, i try an "different" ip |
| 23:34.45 | abrotman | restarting your browser is not remotely the same as clearing your cache |
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| 23:35.20 | robin_sz | probably true |
| 23:35.40 | robin_sz | ah, yes a caching thing .. arse. |
| 23:35.44 | robin_sz | thanks abrotman |
| 23:35.52 | abrotman | !prize me |
| 23:35.55 | abrotman | PONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 23:36.54 | Divine07 | i ran apt-setup and selected http, but when i do apt-get install vlc, it still asks me for my disc |
| 23:36.55 | Divine07 | any ideas? |
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| 23:37.42 | itchi | Divine07: Set some # in /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update |
| 23:37.53 | heh_v_water | Divine07 edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment (#) out the line for the cd-rom |
| 23:38.07 | heh_v_water | then apt-get update and try again |
| 23:38.14 | Divine07 | ty |
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| 23:39.17 | Divine07 | worked like a charm |
| 23:41.09 | itchi | !fglrx |
| 23:41.10 | dpkg | i heard fglrx is add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line; aptitude install fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-kernel-src module-assistant; then use module-assistant to create a binary drm module (fglrx-kernel-xyz) |
| 23:41.26 | abrotman | itchi: msg the bot |
| 23:41.32 | itchi | How do i do to execute the last part. To use modules-assistant |
| 23:41.42 | abrotman | !m-a |
| 23:41.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and generate/install DEB packages with them, or the daddy, or apt-get install module-assistant kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential |
| 23:42.27 | itchi | abrotman: And to make an module for ati? |
| 23:43.27 | abrotman | sure .. why not |
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| 23:43.53 | itchi | abrotman: I not understand :-/ I'm a bit dumb |
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| 23:44.38 | itchi | oh like '/msg dpkg ati' ?? |
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| 23:46.38 | itchi | arh, that's pain on the ass |
| 23:46.47 | abrotman | you're lazy |
| 23:46.54 | itchi | and on the eyes @ 60hz |
| 23:46.56 | triplep | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.05 | five0 | hi guys, when issuing: debootstrap sid /mnt/new, it fails with: E: Couldn't download base-config |
| 23:47.22 | five0 | no matter which mirror i specify, base-config isn't available |
| 23:47.27 | itchi | abrotman: If you want :-/ I find not, i not know some other crazy guys than here on #debian and my :-) |
| 23:47.50 | abrotman | wtf |
| 23:47.54 | heh_v_water | hehe |
| 23:48.01 | itchi | abrotman: But that proprietaire video card install is always crap :-/ |
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| 23:48.52 | triplep | currently using 'tar --exclude-from=file --dereference -cvvf pic.tar 200* ' |
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| 23:49.12 | abrotman | itchi: so don't use them |
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| 23:50.39 | itchi | abrotman: Yeah, that's sure the next one ... That card i had receive. I'm already considered of the dificultes persone of my country. In the sense that i have other an other spirit as some bad one. One day he would considere me realy as an crazy guy :-( |
| 23:51.06 | abrotman | gives up |
| 23:51.37 | itchi | abrotman: _You_ never needs to give it up, understand! ;-) |
| 23:52.19 | anabain | itchi, where are you from? |
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| 23:52.29 | itchi | anabain: From an strange country |
| 23:52.41 | heh_v_water | someone should send itchie to a room with their native language |
| 23:52.47 | InvisiblePinkUni | how do i setup a catchall account for exim4? |
| 23:52.47 | amphi | !fr |
| 23:52.48 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais mais peu ou pas anglais et qui ont besoin d'aide avec Debian peuvent demander sur #debian-fr (irc.debian.org). People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr (irc.debian.org) |
| 23:52.58 | anabain | not as strange as mine... where are you from? |
| 23:53.05 | itchi | nope Dutch, but there are no one people :-( |
| 23:53.17 | itchi | And let me learn English please !!! |
| 23:53.38 | amphi | 'proprietaire' doesn't look very dutch |
| 23:53.39 | itchi | I not wipe you're out of you're favoriete think |
| 23:53.42 | five0 | hi guys, for those of you with debootstrap, which deb package is in ~apt/archives? |
| 23:53.45 | itchi | s/think/thing |
| 23:53.50 | anabain | sure, amphi, hehe |
| 23:54.05 | heh_v_water | itchi, it's not that we don't want to talk to you, it's the fact that your english is so broken we cannot understand what you are saying |
| 23:54.09 | azeem | five0: can you rephrase the question? |
| 23:54.30 | azeem | heh_v_water: ... sometimes |
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| 23:55.05 | anabain | itchi, there isn't a dutch debian channel? |
| 23:55.20 | Mitja | Do I have to reboot after installing usbmount? |
| 23:55.29 | itchi | anabain: Yep, but it's looks there are _never_ peoples :-( |
| 23:55.29 | RubiCzech | how remove lpd from system ??? |
| 23:55.52 | azeem | Mitja: probably not |
| 23:55.58 | itchi | anabain: I have put there an bot some time ago to analyse it a bit |
| 23:56.03 | Mitja | azeem, then it's not working |
| 23:56.27 | azeem | what is usbmount, anyway? |
| 23:56.47 | azeem | itchi: "there" is which channel exactly? |
| 23:56.51 | itchi | !reboot |
| 23:56.51 | dpkg | you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2 |
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| 23:57.08 | javiolo | any freenx user ? |
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| 23:57.22 | abrotman | !be |
| 23:57.23 | dpkg | i heard be is Beryllium. Belgium, or the company who made BeOS |
| 23:57.25 | abrotman | bah |
| 23:57.29 | itchi | azeem: #debian-nl, #debian-belgium |
| 23:57.34 | abrotman | see ... |
| 23:57.38 | five0 | azeem: hi guys, for those of you with debootstrap, which package version is in ~apt/archives? |
| 23:57.49 | Mitja | azeem, for mounting usb removable devices |
| 23:57.54 | azeem | five0: what is ~apt/archives? |
| 23:58.01 | azeem | Mitja: are you running GNOME or KDE? |
| 23:58.05 | five0 | /var/cache/apt/archives, of course |
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| 23:58.10 | Mitja | azeem, KDE |
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| 23:58.22 | azeem | five0: which version of what package? |
| 23:58.39 | azeem | Mitja: I thought KDE was mounting USB devices automatically even in sarge |
| 23:58.43 | five0 | azeem: i've mentioned it twice, no? |
| 23:58.50 | azeem | five0: no? |
| 23:58.54 | sbk | How can I determine the /dev/sdx device corresponding to a newly added usb device? I see stuff in /var/log/messages, but I c'nat figure out how to map that to a /dev/sdx name |
| 23:58.56 | Mitja | azeem, it works in kubuntu, bot in etch |
| 23:59.00 | azeem | five0: you mean the version of debootstrap? |
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| 23:59.01 | Mitja | *but not |
| 23:59.03 | abrotman | sbk: dmesg |
| 23:59.08 | five0 | azeem: debootstrap is installed by default? |
| 23:59.12 | azeem | five0: no |
| 23:59.35 | five0 | azeem: a perfectly legitimate question, then, don't you think? |
| 23:59.49 | azeem | I'm still confused which version of what package you mean |
| 23:59.57 | sbk | abrotman: ah, thanks |
| 23:59.59 | five0 | that's ok, there are others :/ |